lifeblood: listlogs: 1997-06d


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date:         sun, 22 jun 1997 14:06:53 +1000
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subject:      tabs wanted (igc)
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hey all!

maybe i'm just not looking hard enough, but could someone either supply me
with the tab for 'lifeblood' or an address where i can find it? please?

spanking y'all.
alanafaerie x

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date:         sun, 22 jun 1997 00:17:17 -0400
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from:         megan-brady viccellio <brady287@aol.com>
subject:      adrienne rich and the indigo girls??

i would like to de-lurk, and post this theory which has been a while in the
making.  first, let me say this is kind of long, so if you want to skim,
that's fine.  alright.  my main point is that the evolution of the indigo
girls as lyricists and songwriters closely matches the evolution of the
radical feminist seperatist poet adrienne rich.  stay with me now.  also, i
am onl;y comparing the studio versions of songs.  i don't have enough
bootlegs to comment on their live performances.

a quick history on the poetry of rish for those of you unfamiliar with her
work.  she is a southern poet.  she has been writing poetry since the 1950s.
she continues to write today. a compendium of her work, called the fact of a
doorframe was published in the 80s, and contains work up to like 1983.  when
she started writing poetry, she was strongly influenced by her father.  her
early poetry contains lines such as "a too compassionate art is half an art"
(l. 10, "at a bach concert", a change of world).  she focuses on craft rather
than emotion, and her poems are beautiful, and moving in their own way.  as
her work progresses, she leaves traditional forms behind, and concentrates on
content and raw emotion.  although some critics decry her as man hating, and
hate mongering, her poetry from later phases of life is equally meritorious,
although based on different criteria.

imho, the indigo girls have undergone a similar progression.  their earlier
work is somewhat traditional.  i'm not saying that it is not original, or
heartfelt, it just lacks some of the political content that characterizes
later work such as 1200 curfews and especially shaming of the sun.

so, let's start at the beginning.  adrienne rich's earliest published works (a
change of world (1951) and the diamond cutters (1955)) have a strong
emphasis on traditional forms of expression.  their subject matter is not
openly controversial.  although there is some questioning of society, it is
not pronounced.  in strangefire and indigo girls, these principles also hold
true.  in rich's poem "bears" (the diamond cutters), she questions society,
using bears as a symbol.  she asks "wonderful bears . . ./ where have you
gone? (l. 1-3, "bears", the diamond cutters).  she is asking what has
happened to these wonderful bears, the answer? society has destroyed them.
there is some questioning of the patriarchal society's impact on people that
do not fit the mold in strangefire.  in the lyrics of  "strangefire"  --
"when you learn to love yourself . . .you will burn the icing sky and melt
that waxen mask", it seems that amy is implying that something (pehaps
society?) has restrained her or someone else, and caused them *not*  to love
themselves.  when she does learn, she can escape the "whims of culture that
swoop like vultures, eating us away" ("love's recovery", indigo girls).   all
of these examples are not glaringly obvious. only someone with as much spare
time as i have would even really notice them.  at any rate, the subtlety
itself is similar between rich and the indigo girls.

**sidenote -- in "history of us",  emily talks about the "mountains in
switzerland . . . [where] . . .it dawns upon [her] the time is upon [her] to
return to the flock [she] must keep" ("history of us", indigo girls).  in
"the tourist and the town" (the diamond cutters) by rich, she talks abihow
being a tourist has caused her to come to some realizations about her life
away from this foreign place.  coincidence? i think not!**

like adrienne rich's early works, the indigo girls, in strangefire through swa
mp ophelia,  little overt mention is made of sexual orientation or political
views.  although the titles of the indigo girl's songs, especially in nomands-
indians-saints, often have american indian connections, their support of the
movements is not often explicitly stated.  although lines such as "i wish i
was a nomad, an indian or a saint" ("world falls" nomads - indians - saints)
appear in early works, they say little about their feelings on the native
american movement.  it is not until songs such as bmhawk that they really
talk about the wrongs that have been perpetrated (leonard peltier) and their
condemnation of such actions.  this album seems to be a rather transitional
work.  they are coming into their own as far as musicality goes.  although
this album has been criticized as nothing more than a pale imitation of indigo
girls, it represents something new in their work.  the music is still
basically the same, stylistically, but the lyrics are more politically
charged.  like rich's books sanpshots of a daughter-in-law and necessities of
life, there is a subtle shift.  in the case of the indigo girls, it is from
personal to political.  in adrienne rich's case, it is from complacent
acceptance to questioning, and to some extent, rejection of societal norms.

rites of passage marks a transition for the indigo girls.  not only is it one
of my favorite albums, but it contains a pleasing mix of political and
personal songs and lyrics.  there is good blending.  songs like "chickenman"
tell of a personal experience while also giving a semi-political message --
things come in strange packages, and great wisdom can be found among those we
may find distasteful.  just because the outward aspects are not aesthetically
p[leasing, it should not be discarded.  rich, in her later books such as leafl
ets, the will to change, and even diving into the wreck, talks about her
experiences finding herself.  just as amy says that "all the carnage of my
journeys makes it harder to be living he said it's a long road to be
forgiven" ("chickenman", rites of passage), rich is finding herself,
indicting the patriarchy, and traveling a long road to her true self.   she
toys with androgyny in "from the prison house" and "diving into the wreck" (di
ving into the wreck).  although she will later abandon this ideal of
androgyny, it is another part of her journey to herself.  it took the indigo
girls 5 albums to get to 1200 curfews, which is a retrospective of their
careers.  nomads-indians-saints is not where the indigo girls are today.
rather, it is like a milepost that they took a picture of to mark their
progress.

in later works, both the indigo girls and adrienne rich seem to abandon form
for message.  they experiment with styles.  emily in shaming of the sun,
writes her first song on the electric guitar ("caramia").  rich abandons
formal and conventional structure for poetry.  both forge thier own paths.
from the dream of a common language to a wild patience has taken me this far,
rich talks extensively about her political views, which is good.  she lays
things out plainly, both about her politics, and her sexuality. the indigo
girls, in shaming of the sun, do much the same.  songs like "scooter boys"
talk abour colonialism, both neo- and traditional.  the extensive use of the
feminine pronoun, and lines like "beautiful ladies walk on by you know i
never know what to say" ("shame on you", shaming of the sun) also indicate
the indigo girls' lesbianism.  thanks for making it this far.  any comments,
questions, complaints, etc. are welcome.  if you would like me to send you
copies of the rich poems cited here (by snail mail or email, email me
privately at brady287@aol.com).  thanks!

megan-brady

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date:         sun, 22 jun 1997 01:52:44 -0400
reply-to:     athom324@aol.com
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subject:      book about amy/ndygoopg/ndygotiggr (igc)

hi. i am not on the list, but heard what was going on here. the book itself
is irrelevant. what concerns me most are the games that are being played. i
would think twice before e-mailing someone for information who has herself
"posed" online as amy ray. to say that you are someone, speaking about
abusive relationships, your current tour and shows you have played, even
letting people speak to your musical partner while on the tour bus displays a
great deal of disrespect to the subject of your charade. what is even worse
is to put the words that came from you in someone else's mouth. please don't
play games with anymore people, including anyone who may e-mail you regarding
this subject. i think everyone should just act like they never saw any of
these posts. it was all a game, and a very unfair one at that.

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date:         sun, 22 jun 1997 02:07:56 edt
reply-to:     kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
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subject:      re: book about amy/ndygoopg/ndygotiggr (igc)
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wait a sec...
tigger said that melissa was pretending to be amy, but in reality tigger was
pretending to be amy?

ooh. my head hurts.
kirsten

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date:         sun, 22 jun 1997 02:31:48 -0400
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subject:      who's going to m.malone monday? [nigc]
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a few people have already gotten back to me about meeting up for the
michelle malone show this monday night at the fez in nyc (please e-mail me
again if you are one of those people.) i know that doors open at 8:00, and
that michelle is scheduled to go on at 10:00. melissa sheenan is playing
first. tickets are $10, and you will need to call #(212)533-5680 and make
reservations. the place holds about 150 people, and is located at 380
lafayette st and great jones st (near bleeker.) any other info you may need
i probably have, so just ask. what has been done in the past as far as
listees recognizing eachother when they are supposed to meet somewhere. i'm
really wondering what the best thing to do is, especially in a place as
vast as nyc. i know that the fez opens at 6pm, would anyone be interested
in meeting, say 6:30-7ish for dinner beforehand? please let me know, i
think we'd all have a great time together!

goodnight & hope to hear from a few other fans,
jenn "bubbles" bubka    (bubka@peconic.net)


"it wasn't happiness because that
implied continuation, and it wasn't
ecstasy because that implied brevity.
no, it was entirely a being glad,..."
        ~stern
"i am glad to the brink of fear."
        ~emerson

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date:         sun, 22 jun 1997 00:59:31 -0700
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subject:      ig los angeles "in-store" 7/2
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hello,

everyone may want to know...

the indigo girls will be doing
an autograph signing at:

tower records
8801 sunset blvd.
los angeles, ca

2:00 pm on the 2nd of july 1997.

tt

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date:         sun, 22 jun 1997 01:03:56 -0700
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subject:      please help:  need mesa, az info.
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hi again,

it looks like i'm road-tripping...

i was wondering if someone in the arizona area
could please give me venue info (address/phone#)
for the mesa ampitheatre.

is it easy to find?  also, any local motels, etc...

thanks, tt

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subject:      signoff question.. nigc

hey listees..
    i am going out of town and need to put the list on hold, but i don't
remember how and it won't let me signoff for some reason.  anyway, i remember
there being a way to just suspend the posts without really signing off. if
anyone out there knows what i am looking for please email me and let me know
asap.
thank you..
peace,
em

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date:         sun, 22 jun 1997 08:48:00 edt
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subject:      ig autograph signing in la 7/2

got this from the ig newsgroup - anyone in the la area might be really
interested in this:

n.


subject: ig in-store signing!
date: 22 jun 1997 06:36:07 gmt

i don't know if this has been posted about before, but i thought other,
more fortunate ones than i, might be able to use this information! :)

>>the indigo girls will be doing an autograph signing at tower records
8801 >>sunset blvd. los angeles, ca @ 2:00 pm on the 2nd of july 1997.

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date:         sun, 22 jun 1997 11:04:09 -0700
reply-to:     urvashi pitre <urma@juno.com>
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subject:      em's gift of time

hi y'all! i have written to russell carter's office about our idea of
donating volunteer time for emily's birthday, and also toward amy,
because they make up the essence of the band together.

i am hoping to get the o. k. to go backstage briefly on june 28th,
(dallas) and explain the plan briefly to the girls.( i have informed
russell's office that the project will be complete in the first week of
august).

help!!!!  the certificate needs to be in mock-form by this saturday!!!!!

a friend is making the certificate for the gift. basically i am asking
him to make it related to our name "the gift of time". but in addtion, i
would like to include some of the girl's lyrics that relate directly to
this project. remember, we are donating time to make a difference in our
own communities, supporting grass-roots volunteer efforts, and doing
something! the girls have talked about this in various songs.

what i want from all you cool listees is suggestions for relevant lines
we can add from the girl's songs. like in "hammer and a nail" for
example, many relevant lines could be found. the "i will not be
complacent" line attributed to amy is another such example.(you see why i
need help!!)

let's try to be as comprehensive as we can shall we? i believe this will
personalize the certificate for the girls somewhat, and make them realize
how their work has impacted us. all suggestions welcome, private email is
fine.

u.pitre@tcu.edu

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date:         sun, 22 jun 1997 11:42:01 -0600
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>where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
>girls?

ah yes... i recall sitting in my best friend's bedroom sometime during the
summer after her graduation.  we were talking about how nice srah
mclachlan's harmonies were in some song or another, and she said, "if you
like harmonies, then you'd love this," and she popped in rop.  i thought
that it was great, but after that, we both went our separate ways for
awhile.  a few months later i was visiting a friend in my dorm, and she was
blasting 1200 curfews, and after listening to it over and over every time i
was in her room, i was hooked.  i think i even went over there a few times
just to hear it, but eventually i just borrowed it, and swamp ophelia, and
after awile, i broke down and bought them both.  well, here i am today...
not obsessed, but in adoration.  in fact, ig is how i met my gf!  we were
in a coffee shop with a big group of people, and i said something about ig,
and she looked up and said, "you listen to ig?  i love ig!"  well, things
went from there and now she sings amy's part, and i sing emily's, and we're
working on happily ever after.  sorry about the babbling.

indigo smiles,
amy

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date:         sun, 22 jun 1997 13:09:38 edt
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subject:      re: where were you?

on sat, 21 jun 1997 23:22:53 -0400 j tigger kickliter
<ndygotiggr@aol.com> writes:
>where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our
>beloved
>girls?

i'll go next!  i remember that i was still barely in high school when the
summer after my freshman year, my brother came home from college...  he
always tended to bring home interesting new music and wouldn't you know,
rop had just been released..  the first time i heard the cd, i was kind
of like, "ouch...  her singing like that must hurt!! (amy)"  then, romeo
& juliet came on, and i was in love..  i'd never heard something so pure
and raw..  i was completely awestruck!  after the summer was over, he
went back to school and took his wonderful music with him..  needless to
say, "....that was the beginning..of the rest of my life!"  i went on to
spend all of my hard-earned money on everything indigo..  cest la vie :)


lisa

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date:         sun, 22 jun 1997 12:35:05 -0400
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at 07:39 pm 6/19/97 -0500, kim b. wrote:
>though there is a non-official web site
>for kristen....not sure of the address right off hand, but you should be
>able to do a seach and find it.

there's a link to that site, which is excellent, on my music page.

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at 03:12 pm 6/20/97 -0400, yougfemme@aol.com wrote:
>i am currently writing a book on amy ray

why just amy?  if you've read anything about amy you'll know that she
thinks of herself and emily as an inseparable team.  and you would also
know how much they give back to their fans and their community, and how all
they ask in return is their privacy.

you'll need a good editor, from the looks of your subject line.

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              kickliter" at jun 21, 97 11:22 pm

>
> where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
> girls?
>
a few years ago, i was in the ice cream store in my neighborhood, eating ice
cream (what else?) when i heard closer to fine on the radio. i didn't know
who the indigo girls were at the time, or that is was them, but i knew i loved
that song.

i didn't think about it again for a long time, though, until i
started listening to this cool folk music radio station (which no longer plays
folk music because it was unprofitable to do so :-p.) the only folk group i
knew at the time was peter, paul and mary. *giggle* this station, walden 1120,
introduced me to lots of great music, not the least of which was the ig. one
day they played least complicated and i thought what a great song it was, and
at the end they announced that it was by the indigo girls, and i thought, "oh,
that's who the indigo girls are!" then they started playing the ig cover of
american tune (from one of the newport folk fest discs) frequently for a long
time, and i fell in love with the song without knowing who was performing it,
and finally i found out that it was the indigo girls.

at about the same time, i had this pen pal who was a huge ig fan and kept
mentioning them in her letters, and all of these things finally reached a
critical mass and when i won a cd in a radio contest that i didn't want (it was
the soundtrack from "pocahontas"!), i went to tower records and exchanged it
for cassette copies of the debut album (because my pen pal said that that was
their best and because it had ctf) and back on the bus, y'all (because it was
cheap.) it took me a long time to really like them, but i patiently listened to
them over and over for a few months, and finally i was a fan.
kirsten


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              "megan-brady viccellio" at jun 22, 97 12:17 am

> it is not until songs such as bmhawk that they really
> talk about the wrongs that have been perpetrated (leonard peltier) and their
> condemnation of such actions.
just a correction: bmhawk is a cover (it's by buffy sainte-marie), so while it
does (probably) reflect how amy and emily about certain issues, it is not their
own words.
kirsten

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"my cat's breath smells like catfood."


:)
(i stole that from the simpsons;)

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>
> i was wondering if someone in the arizona area
> could please give me venue info (address/phone#)
> for the mesa ampitheatre.
>
> is it easy to find?  also, any local motels, etc...
>
> thanks, tt

hi tt and everyone else

i decided to post this on the list for anyone else who might be comming
into mesa for the igc.

here are some web sites that might help.....

www.travelbase.com/auto/guides/mes-az.html

this site has info on motels, stores, restaurants, night clubs ect and
there is a link to a map of mesa (you have to keep zooming in a few times
untill you get a detailed map,  the mesa ampitheatre is listed on the map
as the mesa community center)

for concert info and info about the mesa community center (i.e.
ampitheatre) visit

www.ci.mesa.az.us/commcntrs/concerts.htm

as far as if the ampitheatre is easy to find i have no idea.  this will be
my first time there, but the lady who sold me my ticket said it was'nt hard
to find...i'll find out on the 30th

i hope this helped but if you need more info just email me and i'll break
out the phone book and let my fingers do the walking (great hand exercise
for playing the guitar)

also, is anyone else on the list going to this show?  if so lets get
together somewhere and make a day of it.

i'll see you at the show tt, i'll be the guy with the homemade ig t-shirt
on and standing alone cause nobody i know likes the ig :(

                                                take care;

                                                jim in hell....
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>
> "my cat's breath smells like catfood."
>
>
cat food. i think i'll paint the ceiling with cat food.
kirsten


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> > where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
> > girls?

in my dorm room, probably.  my neighbor (freshman year) liked to play
them frequently and rather loudly.  caught my attention enough for me
to check them out at the public library at home.  listened to rop a
couple of times and fell in love with the sound.

anna

"i like to write really quiet songs on the electric guitar."  -amy ray


http://narnia.emu.edu/pub/students/creechal/creechal.htm

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> > where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
> > girls?

i was sitting in my yard in 1989 playing with my 2 year old twins, and my
neighbor and now great friend was playing closer to fine over and over again.
i loved it, i bought it, and the rest is blue history!  they really made
life so much easier for a frazzled mother of two...

love them girls,

bonnie

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let's see.....closer to fine was the first song i had ever heard.  it was a
cuople of years ago, i think it was the summer of my sophomore year.  i was
in the truck with the best friends i have ever had.  they were all nature
nuts as i am, and they were taking me somewhere to show me
something....hemlock cliffs.   (it's now my sacred place.  a huge forest
with waterfalls and caves and everything beautiful)  we really had just kind
of met.  they had all grown up together in the same class.  i was 2 years
younger than them, but we somehow hooked up.  anyway, we were taking the
mighty red truck.  (it's the best damn truck.  it's extended everything.  5
of us could fit in it comfortably.)  we were listeining to simon and
garfunkel or something, then they put in the ctf cd.  i fell in love the
first time i heard them.  ig just brings back memories.  all of them were in
choir, and could sing so well.  they would all harmonize together.  we
camped at hemlock, and jill brought out her guitar around the campfire.  she
showed me the chords, and i had to go out to buy the cd to be able to play
it.  from then on it was history.  now i can play more ig songs than jill.
everything that i can think of right now that is a really good memory,
somehow the ig were involved.  there music was either playing, we were
playing it, or we were seeing them play it......whew...
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-kate

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> > where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
> > girls?
> >

back in jan. of 1990 i had this boring ass job and my brother david
sugested tht i get a walkman to pass away the hours at work.  well, i got
the walkman but i didn't have any tapes, again david came to my aid and
loaned me a tape called "indigo girls".  i had never heared of them before
and i asked him what kind of music they played.  he told me that they were
sort of country but i should give it  try anyway.  that night at work i put
the tape in and pressed play and was greated with ctf.  the first thing
that grabed me was the great guitar playing but as i listened to the tape
over and over i was intriqed with the intellegence of the lyrics and the
unique (sp) harmonies.  they inspired me to take up the guitar again and
have been jamming with them ever since.


                                                8 days till ig in the desert;

                                                        jim in phoenix

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in a message dated 97-06-22 17:34:26 edt, you write:

> inspired by a current thread on the mle list, i'd like to pose the
> following
>  question:
>
>  where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
>  girls?

i can't help adding to this.  hmm... 'cept i'm not sure i know the answer.
maybe i saw them once on mtv during 120 minutes or something.. no... i
definitely saw them one night on letterman a few years ago, and was impressed
but not to the point of buying anything.  i think it was occasionally hearing
"least complicated" on the local "alternative" station, and then having
access to swamp ophelia, combined with seeing them preform bmhawn on
letterman, that finally got me.  from then on, i couldn't resist a cheap
indigo girls cd.  my girlfriend, karyn, who doesn't even like 'em, bought me
1200 curfews, and the only album i've bought full price is shaming of the
sun.  ya...

the sfc

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> could please give me venue info (address/phone#)
> for the mesa ampitheatre.
>
> is it easy to find?  also, any local motels, etc...
>
> thanks, tt

i reposted this so that the web pages mentoned below could be hyper-linked.
sorry i screwed the first post up.

hi tt and everyone else

i decided to post this on the list for anyone else who might be comming
into mesa for the igc.

here are some web sites that might help.....

http://www.travelbase.com/auto/guides/mes-az.html

this site has info on motels, stores, restaurants, night clubs ect and
there is a link to a map of mesa (you have to keep zooming in a few times
untill you get a detailed map,  the mesa ampitheatre is listed on the map
as the mesa community center)

for concert info and info about the mesa community center (i.e.
ampitheatre) visit

http://www.ci.mesa.az.us/commcntrs/concerts.htm

as far as if the ampitheatre is easy to find i have no idea.  this will be
my first time there, but the lady who sold me my ticket said it was'nt hard
to find...i'll find out on the 30th

i hope this helped but if you need more info just email me and i'll break
out the phone book and let my fingers do the walking (great hand exercise
for playing the guitar)

also, is anyone else on the list going to this show?  if so lets get
together somewhere and make a day of it.

i'll see you at the show tt, i'll be the guy with the homemade ig t-shirt
on and standing alone cause nobody i know likes the ig :(

                                                take care;

                                                jim in hell....
                                                i mean phoenix

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the very first time i heard ig was on my way to a high school quiz bowl
trip. my friend had made me a mixed tape, and about four or five songs in,
there was "least complicated." i liked it a lot, but wasn't totally wowed.
i thought "nice lyrics, nice harmonizing."

i guess i was "reborn" when i heard "ghost" at a school assembly. it was
for our winter formal, and we have this presentation of the queen and her
court and a little skit with entertainment sprinkled throughout. these two
girls sang "ghost" and the lyrics really hit home.  i ran out to buy rop
and skipped to track three, and repeated it like crazy. finally, after
awhile, i started over from the beginning and listened through the whole
thing. i was hooked. could i be anything but?

khw

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hey list people, i haven't posted in a long time because i have been able to
control myself (i ask myself, "does anyone really care about this?" before i
post anything).  i will be at the show on the 24th in new orleans. you would
know that when ig are going to be in tx, i'm on family vacation (woo hoo).
anyways, we coincidentally (thank god) hit new orleans just at the right
time and i successfully talked my anti-gay parents into buying ig tix (they
only bought themselves tix because they were worried about me going by
myself).  i know i will have fun and i hope my parents will jam down (they
never fail to surprise me).  i think i will wear my faded blue swamp ophelia
t-shirt and a khaki hat.  i can't be that hard to spot :) just look for some
incredibly sexy chic with two shocked parents. i am being sarcastic!  so
don't flame me or anything.  i'll be gone anyways.  i guess there isn't a
list meeting? or did i miss the info.  i will miss tony, but i'm looking
forward to seeing lift, jerry, and sarah :)  i think michelle malone will be
in chicago the same time we will, too.  my parents probably won't let me go,
though.  i told them, "uh, you know that there are 19 year olds that live by
themselves in chicago." live is the key word, i hope they let me be a little
independent on this vacation. i better cut this off, though, because i think
that i am crossing the "does anyone care" border. oh and i'm off the list
for vacation.  later
amber batson

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here's my 2 cents on this whole hulla balloo.....
do you really think a book on amy is a good idea?
consider for a moment how irritated she became with the writer of the
article in atlanta magazine...one of the things she emphasized that upset
her was the fact that emily was portrayed as a lesser part of the indigo
girls...that amy was the "star" of the group...
do you really want to be known as the girl who wrote "that book"?
besides, as much as we all love ig's music they are not superstars whose
biographies, authorized or not would draw enough attention (unless filled
with scandalous lies) to be considered successful in the publishing
industry...just mho


kat

               "if i let you do it to me, can
                 we still call it suicide?"
                         - cooper seay

               "without love you can only resist,
                 without feeling you can't exist."
                         - melissa ferrick

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the year was 1989, and i was in 8th grade.  i was a huuuuuge rem fan, and
i had 3rd row seats to their concert the next month at the omni in
atlanta.  and it was a sunday night.  i was busy doing some work for my
literature class, and i had wkls (96 rock)'s peach jam show on in my
room.  and they had these two special guests in the studio...amy and emily.

that night i thought they were pretty good, and i was excited about
seeing them open for rem.  when i saw them live on that april 1st, i fell
in love.  of curse, i still thought rem was much much better, but i fell
in love with these two girls up on stage.

8 years and 22 concerts later, i still think they're pretty spiffy...

darren

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> > > where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
> > > girls?

        i was a resident advisor my sophomore year in college, and the
guys' ra on my floor was a really nice guy.  we quickly became friends,
and at the end of the semester, he and some of our other friends went to
see the girls in concert (during exam week no less!!)  i asked him who he
was going to see...i didn't know who they were...i recognized ctf when he
played it, but that was the only one.  i fell in love with the rop disc,
and borrowed it from him constantly that week...i think i studied *it*
more than for any of my classes!  anyway, he got so for christmas that
year, and he played it one time while i was in his room...mystery still
being my favorite on that disc.  he and i still sing along with the girls
everywhere we go together.  listening to their music was the way we kept
from getting annoyed with each other on a trip to florida...i sure did
have a hoarse voice when we got there, though!!  :)  :)

--leona
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hi there,

2 things for a stupid-o stressed out girly...

1) could someone remind me if any list socializing is happs around the
berkeley concerts?

2) julie n. and lisa m, please mail me!

:)

thanks

-larissa the decrepid brain person

(can't even spell)

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****the following is a public service anouncement.....*****

hi ya'll!

~if you like good music, would like to support the mid-missouri rape & abuse
crisis service, and you will be in the mid-missouri area on the fourth of
july....
~boy have i got a deal for you!~
~my name is megan boyer (some of you may know me as stan) and i am a young
singer/songwriter from jefferson city mo.
~a couple months ago i decided to try to put together a concert to benifit
racs...the project has finally come together.
~during the forth of july celebration in downtown jefferson city bands will
be playing outside of the silverado cafe (that cute little pink stucco
coffee shop down-town) starting at 12:00 noon.  there will be donation jars
for racs to replace those pesky tip jars :)
~after the fireworks (about 10:30) the fun begins.  for a meger $3.00 cover
charge (which also goes to racs) you will be entertained until 1:30 am by
myself (megan boyer) and another area singer/songwriter (who rocks the
house) val goodrich.  we will split our sets and during the intermission
door-prizes donated by area businesses will be given away. (these are no
wimpy prizes either...we are talkin' real fun stuff)
~the silverado cafe is not only donating their space for this benefit but
everyone who buys a ticket also gets a free cinnimon roll and a coffee.
now that is a good deal...

~if you plan to be in the mid-missouri area on the fourth try to stop by and
help a great area cause.....

email me at bonanzajellybean@juno.com if you have any questions

thanks for your time :)

megan boyer

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the first time i heard the indigo girls was about three years ago and i was
incredibly depressed and my friend chickie(her real name is katherine) didn't
know what to do so she said i want you to hear a song that i love and it will
make you feel better.  she pop in the rites of passage cd and played ghost
than galileo.  i didn't like it at first b/c i was in no mood to do anything
but the next day i was out of my mood and i ask to her ghost again. i fell in
love!  ghost will always be my fav emily song b/c i understand it way to
well.  well that is my little story for my fellow listees.
-stine-

" if we'd ever leave a legacy it's that we loved each other well."
-emily saliers-

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date:         sun, 22 jun 1997 20:18:12 -0400
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subject:      redrocks july 18

are there any plans of a list-get-together before this show?  if not, lets
start now.
we're coming from albuquerque and plan to do a little camping.  can any of
the local yolk recommend somewhere near the venue?

peace,
kathy & vanessa

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subject:      more malone...michelle malone

hey everybody..i went to the pride festival in nyc today and saw
michelle malone...got to chat with her for a bit which was pretty
cool...she played very very well..two songs off of her new album and
both were very incredible..

again..i strongly recommend checking her stuff out..it's not everyday
that a talent like her comes along..somebody who has an amazing voice
and rips on the guitar...yeah <s>

anyway..you all have a good night..and call that number and sample
the new album.

gwen

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subject:      help! ig videos!!

sorry to waste bandwidth, but i need the person to mail me who sent me the ig
video.  i need to send you your check!!!!  i lost your address in the shuffle
in the past few weeks, and your mail keeps getting bounced back to me.  please
write to me!!  thanks!!  sorry everybody else!!  happy indigo-ness!

                                        love ya,
                                        bethany

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subject:      re: book about amy/ndygoopg/ndygotiggr (igc)

in a message dated 97-06-22 02:31:01 edt, athom324@aol.com writes:

<< before e-mailing someone for information who has herself
"posed" online as amy ray. to say that you are someone, speaking about
abusive relationships, your current tour and shows you have played, even
letting people speak to your musical partner while on the tour bus >>

yes, i've heard this story too.  for your information, and for the
information of anyone who cares about this, the person this story refers to
was not me.  there are four or five folks on aol with screen names similar to
mine.  i don't know who this person was, but i have heard about her and it is
unfortunate that this is going on.

it would have been nice if you'd asked me about this before posting a lie to
the list.

and by the way, dear, when you're going to post a public flame to someone,
it's good to keep your mailing address long enough for them to respond to
you.

i will gladly answer questions about this little scenario, too.  but let's
take it private, shall we?

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
can you show me now that i will not be killed in vain,
show me just a little of your omnipresent brain!
show me there's a reason for your wanting me to die,
you're far too keen on where and when and not so hot on why!
-amy as jesus, "the garden of gethsemane"
from jesus christ super-star: a resurrection
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in a message dated 97-06-22 17:30:14 edt, ndygotiggr@aol.com (j tigger
kickliter) writes:

<< where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
girls?
  >>

i used to work at frederick's of hollywood.  they have that annoying muzak
playing all the time.  well, i used to always hear "galileo".  i never really
knew who sang it, though.  i would occasionally hear it on the radio also.  i
finally found out who sang it, and always meant to get one of their cd's, but
never did.  i ordered some cd's from bmg and 1200 curfews was one of them.
from then on i was hooked!!  i loved it and listened (and still do) to it
constantly.  i absolutely love ig's and i just can't even explain how much
their music means to me!!  that's my story!

janeen, who has no witty quotes to go with my signature.

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in a message dated 97-06-22 15:18:37 edt, ndygotiggr wrote:

<< where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
> > girls? >>

hmmm...it was my first day of high school.  my sister drove me to school
because she was a senior, okay...i felt cool :)  she put a tape in, i had no
idea what it was...i heard fugitive for the first time and certainly not the
last.  we would rewind the tape to the beginning and listen to it over and
over again until we both knew the harmonys perfectly (i was emily).  i always
remember hearing the first couple of chords of least complicated and wanting
to keep it on...but we'd just rewind the tape again.  for three months, i had
no idea what they looked like or what their names were (my sister lost the
tape insert)....but it really didn't matter.  i knew that they were really
special.  for christmas, my sister gave me 1200 curfews...i wore out so while
bringing it on 3 road trips that summer.  i can't listen to the wood song
without thinking of the blue ridge parkway! :)  and from then on...well, i'm
sure you know what happened. :)

peace y'all,
nicole

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hi--could those who are going to be attending the lillith fair at the world
theater in chicago please email me.  i have finally been able to obtain
tickets for myself and want to know who i'll be near.  as always i am
interested in a list gathering of sorts.  being that it's an all day affair
it shouldn't be too much to arrange a place and time to meet list folks.
so if people are interested in meeting others on the list email me and i'll
keep a record of the people and as the event draws closer i will let all
know where to meet.  if you aren't interested in meeting others from the
list email me anyway.  you can meet me and let's face it i'm pretty cool
and it will be worth your while ;-).  hope to hear from y'all soon

greg

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hkf's~

        i just got a copy of the ppv a few days ago (thanks a heap trant! :)
i may have missed a post on this, but did anyone know that the blond hair
guy playing harmonica on chickenman is dave ellison, the ig's tour manager?
(mandi, anj -- did you recognize him?)
        i thought he was *fantastic* myself and hope he gets to play with
them more often!

just my two bits~
the poultry guy
founder - ssim yknib fan club


i       tony, da chickenman - houston, texas, usa       g
n                                                       i
d       not content to bow and bend to the whims        r
i       of culture that swoop like vultures eating      l
g       us away to our extinction -  emily saliers      s
o

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subject:      ig in people mag???

can anyone tell me which issue, and what page?  i have the june 23 issue
(with the children on the front who are alleged killers - blagh!) but i cant
find the article in there.

help!!!!

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
can you show me now that i will not be killed in vain,
show me just a little of your omnipresent brain!
show me there's a reason for your wanting me to die,
you're far too keen on where and when and not so hot on why!
-amy as jesus, "the garden of gethsemane"
from jesus christ super-star: a resurrection
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i was just wondering what's so wrong with someone writing a book - i assume
it's like a biography - of one or both of the girls. i suppose it depends
on what kind of book melissa intends it to be. i would personally be
interested in reading a biography of them - rather like the one that came
out a couple of years ago about tori called all these years. it was about
her but a lot of it was about her development as an artist, her work and so
on. of course that was authorised so it's a bit different.
nothing wrong with a biography folks. i doubt if there would be many very
personal details around about amy anyway since she keeps her private life
so guarded. who wants to do that to her? i would rather read about her
development as a musician and all that stuff anyway. that's the truly
inspiring stuff.

helen - giving her thoughts on the issue.

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just like darren i too saw ig for the first time april 12,1989 in toronto
opening up for rem.  liked them then, love them now! ok, so i was quite a
bit older than 8th grade.
less than a month until my wedding! ack!
lori


"this could be the saddest dusk i've ever seen turn to a miracle"
                                            rem

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the first time i heard the girls was when i had just left my husband,
i had a one month old and a 22 month old.  i just loved the whole
indigo girls album, but when the line said, " the best thing you"ve
ever done for me is to help me take my life less seriously, it's only
life afterall."  i was hooked.  my daughter is now 7 and loves the
girls, my son is 9 , he likes them but not as much as us.  we've been
to several concerts together and, well.... my life totally changed.
as emily said, "that was just the begining, .... of the rest of my
life."
indigo rocks,
patt

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>where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
>girls?

i was, believe it or not, at a christian youth convention here in canberra
- back in the days when i was a 22 year old questioning christian - i don't
identify with the church at all anymore. anyway, one night at the evening
rally they played some videos up on a big screen and they played the first
three songs off live at the uptown lounge. i remember wondering who they
were and why michael stipe was singing with them. no one at the rally
actually introduced the videos or said anything about them. later on i was
talking to a woman a little older than me who said she thought the choice
of music that night was interesting and wondered how many kids in the 3000+
crowd had heard of the indigo girls. i asked who they were and she told me
that was the name band in the first videos of the evening. i made a mental
note of the name. a few weeks later i was at a friend's house and she said,
'i just got this new tape with a song about virginia woolf on it" (we being
lovers of vw) and she played it and said there and then she would tape it
for me although i didn't absorb much of it at the time. a few days later i
listened to it in my bedroom and  galileo and vw were like bolts of
lightning for me. the sound of it was like honey and i became totally
obsessed with that badly dubbed tape i had and soon began buying one ig cd
after another. for the next two years they were everything for me as i got
to know their music and they got me through some pretty rough times. to
this day the chorus for hand me downs remains the most arresting and
important for me.

give me hope give me hope
that emptiness brings fullness
and loss of love brings wholeness to us all

i clung to those lines for nearly two years straight. it means so much.

helen

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in the june 20 issue of next magazine's nyc pride guide '97, on p. 28 in an
article called "music to be proud of," by dj rob eric, in the "club
control" section, it lists the best of the best of 1997.  (whew...that was
a lot! :)  included is (reprinted w/o permission), "the indigo girls'
shaming of the sun: now i'm not a big fan of folk music, so in the past
i've sort of thumbed my nose at the thought of actually listening to an
indigo girls album (let alone buy one.)  however, the lesbian folk singers
have released one hell of an album that ventures off into the alternative
end of college rock, rather than drowning in the hokey world of folk
schlock."  also listed are george michael's older, kd lang's drag, kevin
aviance's "cunty/din da da," melissa ethridge's little secret [sic], the
pet shop boys' bilingual, sinnerman, r.e.m., and erasure.  sots is also
recommended in metrosource, on p. 20 in the "metro music" section under
"more!"

with the recent talk on the list about kaia, i thought i'd mention that
she's playing on 6/29 at 8 pm at meow mix in nyc.  it's 21+ though, so i
can't go. :(

i saw michelle malone at nyc pride today, & she was really cool!  therese &
i got to talk to her a little after she performed.  she seemed really tired
(she's done 15 prides so far!), but she was really nice & signed stuff &
posed for a picture w/ us (which will be on my webpage as soon as i get
back to school).  i'm excited for the fez show tomorrow! :)

andi

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great thread!!

>where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
>girls?

well, i heard ctf on mtv. most of us probably did. good song and i liked it at
the time. oops, fabulous song. my brother turned me on to the girls for real.
now, my brother basically listens to everything, but he loves van morrison. so,
he says, "check out the indigo girls". poetic, folksy, etc. i love folk music
and i was ( still am ) a big jethro tull fan at the time, so i think "sure ,
why not". so, to make a long story short, i got the self titled album and that
was it. picked up nomads and rights of passage there after - this was back in
92-93. the rest is history. i can't remember exactly what i was *doing* but i
was loving the music, that's for sure.

for those that have doubts about sots, give it a real listen. listen to it
continuously for a week and i guarantee you that you will fall in love with it.
it's definately a different direction and not as "sweet" as some have described
it, but it's the girls thru and thru. i just keep praying to god ( and thanks
to those for the radio boots ) that the "duo tour", as planned in the fall,
*happens* and that it comes my way. these songs sound incredible live. oh man
do they.

well, that's it.

dave.

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subject:      re: where were you?

my first indigo experience was in my living room in 1990.  i had just
bought the newly released nomads, indians and saints totally on a
hunch.  i'd read the snide rolling stone review of it, and decided that
a band that they dissed in that manner was worth checking out (if that
makes any sense).  i cued up world falls because i do environmental
stuff and it seemed to fit, and i was blown away.  it's probably still
my favorite track.  few of my friends are ig fans, so my ig obsession
took a while to develop.  it now seems to be flowering nicely.

hugh

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subject:      where were you? (the indisaga)/erica jong

a long time ago i was looking through a friend's cd rack (i am nosy when it
comes to cds) and pulled out strange fire "i dont like this very much
celeste, they're like country or something" cool, a free cd i said.
inevitably, i did not tell her that i did not possess a cd player..had i, my
ig experience may have begun a lot sooner.  the cd got thrown into my pile of
tapes, forgotten for a year or two...

then

::dramatic pause::

i bought swamp ophelia by accident kind of...i just get these feelings about
certain bands through columbia house and often buy randomly...i thought the
indigo girls were some kind of eighties group like the bangels and was
feeling nostalgic...swamp ophelia made me so happy--i thought it was a
gorgeous record and i played lc for everyone...

but the ig song that transformed me from mere fan to fanatic was definitely
romeo and juliet...i heard it at one of those difficult break-up, where are
you?, why did you lie to me? kind of sentimental times while at a friend's
house and amy's voice evoked such a visceral emotion in both of us...so i
decided to go and buy rop...what a chore that turned out to be! i called so
many record stores and had to drive about an hour to find it! but i had that
mad look glowing in my eyes and no one could stop me...

and now, that strange fire cd? a regular in my cd player.  i cant believe she
gave it to me! silly girl....

but now that i'm finished with my melodramatic interpretation of my ig
microcosm...

the name of the poem eludes me at the moment, but "the girl with the weight
of the world in her hands" reminds me so much of this erica jong poem which
some band (thank me for being so definite and concrete, why don't ya?) put to
music. it's about this girl who is trying so hard to be everything and never
succeeds in her own mind and the only line i can remember enough to
paraphrase is "she dabbles in all trades, yet masters none" i dont suppose
anyone could give me any help here....

thanks for reading this far! celeste

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    the first time i heard the girls was when i was about 15 and my sister
was playing galileo in her room. i heard the music through the walls and
liked it so much that when she went out, i snuck into her room and listened
to her indigo cds. it was funny how many songs i knew just from hearing them
through the walls!!!
          -deb

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> from: tom paul <trp@cdepot.net>
> to: indigo-girls@listspace.org
> subject: re: where were you?
> date: sunday, june 22, 1997 9:31 pm
>
> when i was 16 years old my grandfather died suddenly of a heart attack. i
> refused to cry or speak for several days, he had been my best and only
> friend. i went out for a while after i had heard the news and wandered
into
> a record show where the cover of rop caught my eye. i bought it on a
whim,
> went to my greiving grandmother's house and plugged in my headphones. i
> heard "three hits" and heard the proper words to match my emotions for
the
> first timwe in my life. i listened to that song over and over again for
the
> next three days as the wake, funeral, etc. passed me by like a breeze on
> the wind. standing in the cemetary chapel, "you lay covered in our best
> sins" seeing long forgotten or never met relatives that seemed to know me
> well,"i dream you constant stranger" my mother standing with her brother
> and sister"i say mother, do you claim me" it all seemed to fit perfectly.
> in a time of total madness, the music kept me sane, soothed my soul, made
> me feel human.  i will never forget that moment for many reasons,
> espiceally that it was when i started my love affair with two girls from
> georgia that will last the rest of my life.
>
> god bless amy and emily,
>
> stoka
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> > from: lisa r johnson <valkyrie7@juno.com>
> > to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> > subject: re: where were you?
> > date: sunday, june 22, 1997 10:09 am
> >
> > on sat, 21 jun 1997 23:22:53 -0400 j tigger kickliter
> > <ndygotiggr@aol.com> writes:
> > >where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our
> > >beloved
> > >girls?
> >
> > i'll go next!  i remember that i was still barely in high school when
the
> > summer after my freshman year, my brother came home from college...  he
> > always tended to bring home interesting new music and wouldn't you
know,
> > rop had just been released..  the first time i heard the cd, i was kind
> > of like, "ouch...  her singing like that must hurt!! (amy)"  then,
romeo
> > & juliet came on, and i was in love..  i'd never heard something so
pure
> > and raw..  i was completely awestruck!  after the summer was over, he
> > went back to school and took his wonderful music with him..  needless
to
> > say, "....that was the beginning..of the rest of my life!"  i went on
to
> > spend all of my hard-earned money on everything indigo..  cest la vie
:)
> >
> >
> > lisa
> >
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fellow listees,

the first time i heard the glorious hymns of indigo girls was at a shopping
mall..sadly, im not jokin'.  my best friend amanda and i were shopping at old
orchard (anyone in chicago will probably know what i'm talking about)  we
were checking out the cool threads in american eagle (a clothing store)  and
this awesome song was playing on the loudspeakers.  it went something
like.."nashville, i'd like to know your fate i'd like to stay awhile.."  only
i thought they were saying, "nashville, i like the new york state.."  i said
to manda "this is a pretty cool song" and she smiled and nodded her approval.
a few months later i saw boys on the side and fell in love with the brief
sound-byte of jokin' the girls play in the bar.  i borrowed my friend's copy
of bots soundtrack and, after putting 2 and 2 together, realized that the
group who sang jokin also performed power of two.  so the next time columbia
house (that money-sucking business) sent out their monthly ordering forms, i
ordered rites of passage.  i think that was the only cd i listened to for the
next month or so, everything else was pale in comparison.  i taped it for
car-listening and played it for manda.  while i was on spring break she
bought the cd and we took it from there.  on a side note,  as anyone in the
chicagoland area might remember, some crazy ex-boyfriend  took his
ex-girlfriend hostage at old orchard in a hair salon.  me and (who else?)
manda just happened to be there, three stores down, in (guess where?)
american eagle when it happened.  the crazy guy shot off his gun a few times
and the police locked us in the store.  we hid behind a mannequin for about
ten minutes before they finally let us attempt to leave.  unfortunately, the
music playing was not indigo girls, although i don't think we would have
cared, we were too busy watching our lives flash before our eyes.  indigo
girls and hostage situations?  hmmm....

susan

"sometimes the best way to find out who you are is to get to that place where
you don't have to be anything else"

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in a message dated 97-06-22 21:46:58 edt, indigo@mindspring.com (deb) writes:

<< why just amy?  if you've read anything about amy you'll know that she
thinks of herself and emily as an inseparable team.  and you would also
know how much they give back to their fans and their community, and how all
they ask in return is their privacy. >>

yeah!  i think if there ever is a book on them it should be about their
accomplishments and their community service.  nothing should be mentioned
about their personal life.
-stine-

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where was i now this is a funny story i was in lansing michigan and i seen
the video for galileo and thoguht it kicked ass big time i loved all the
txt that appeared in it anyway i heard they were coming so i went to see
them big fish ensemble opend for them and they kicked ass god id love a
bood of that tour anyway thats the only song i heard by them was galileo
and i want to the concert just to hear that song after all it was their
single  (it was when the first person in the door picked the set list)
anyway  the skinny of it is they never played it!!!!!!!!!!!!! i was like
shit shit shit anway i bought the rop cd and then the self titled then
nomads and have got them all that i could find pretty much as a side note
i borrowed the big fish ensemble tape i had( which was a bitch to get
cause it was on some funky lable) and it survived my friends trailer fire
the j cards gone so no lyrics unfortunetly but i got the tape and listen
to it all the time anyway thats my girl story
hugs anthony van pyre

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<hand raised> me next, me next!!!!
let's see....the year was 1994, i was flipping channels and i  stopped
on vh1, i was about to change it when this new video starts....i read
the little artists name and said "hmmm, indigo girls...cool"  and i
start to hear this girl singing, and i'm like "cute", i'm starting to
get into the video, i'm really liking the flashing  of the lyrics and
the chords and stuff, then i hear this other voice come in and start
singing and i'm like"wow"....needless to say i fell in lov and was
devastated when it ended...the next couple of days the chorus kept
running through my head until finally i had to go by the tape....and as
we all know i was not disappointed!!!!!! :)
so there you go...i know pass the speaking stick to somone else :)

later :)

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okay, i give, i'll share my story. i had this friend megan who got hooked on
the girls somehow and would talk about them sporadically. i would think,
yeah, whatever megan, i'm sure they're great, now can we talk about
something else? then in the middle of our freshman year (that would be
about 2 and a half years now) megan gives me a mix of ig songs from all
the albums indigo girls through swamp ophelia. i loved it. i was addicted
to closer to fine, and then several of the other songs. i got to see
them at the last show on the '94 honor the earth tour. wow. that was the
first time i realized how incredibly beautiful they are. then when 1200
curfews came out i really got to know the girls. now it is my turn...i am
trying to make my friend lisa an ig fan, and i think it's working. and i
think mom likes them more than she wants to admit. i am truly obsessed
with the girls now, and i love it...i'm sure most if not all of you know
what i'm talking about.
-sam (wishing she'd gotten to know the girls sooner)

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the first  time  i listened to the  girls i was sitting in my french
teachers car. i was exchange student in 93/94 in ny (upstate) and became
very close friends with my french teacher. she had  this tape with this
very cool song on it  which  was about romeo and  juliet. that song  had
so much power and  it was my job to pick  out the tapes  when i  was in
her car, so  i was always looking for rop to play that song. when  it was
time  to go home again after the year  i wanted to spend  money on cds
and tapes, and just for the heck of it, i bought rop and  so. those
tapes never  left my car back home  and they always remind me  of my
friend and of the great  summer and year in the states.
one year later i found 1200 curfews in a store back here and told a
friend  how psyched i was to find something by the girls. sometimes i
have a really tough time  finding tapes  and cds here in germany because
it seems that no one knows them here. my friend bought  1200 curfews for
me  for x-mas and gave x-mas and the  cd  a special meaning . i think
the  girls have been with me for the past  three years and they've become
a part  of me.
oh, by the way, when i  listen to 1200 curfews in my car, i  always say
moo. :)
maike

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on sat, 21 jun 1997, kate wrote:

> did anyone happen to sneak in a recorder and make a boot of the ig's
> performance at kettering june 13?  if anyone out there has, i would be
> greatful for it.  i am willing to trade a small poster for it.  it looks
> like the album sots.  please e-mail me privately.  i want to surprise my
> friend with it.  we both shared the experience together, and i want to give
> it to her before she goes off to college again so she can remmeber me when
> she hears it. thanks.......
>
hi kate. i _did_ see someone booting the show (front section, center,
about 6-8 rows back), so we know one exists... beyond that, i'm not sure.

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> > where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
> > girls?


i can't remember the year, but i want to say '90.  i was a summer camp
counselor for my first year (of the nest 5!).  i had heard the indigo
girls played all summer and didn't like them at all (i was young and
dumb, what can i say?) and i remember the instant when i gave in to
liking them. see, at our camp, if you didn't like the indigo girls, your
life was pretty hellish, as, that's mostly all that was played (along
with melissa of course!)

so, one day, i was taking a nap on a mat on the floor (right in front of
one of the stereo speakers that wasn't on!) in the staff house, and
someone came and turned on "get together" really loud and i woke up very
angry and swore i'd love the indigo girls for the rest of my life just
so that i could make it through the rest of the summer happy.

7 years and 10 concerts later, i'm still happy!!!  :)
renee  (who's happy to finally be re-signed on after graduating from
college and getting this great email account through work!)

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wow!  i was just asking myself this question this weekend.
weird.

it was the summer of 1988 (can that be right?) and i had just
gotten back from my beloved girl scout camp - not willingly
though.  yes, camp was over and i had to leave but i would have
stayed giving any opportunity.  i loved camp!   had been going
since i was 7 or so and now i was 14 in '88 and seeing camp in a
whole new light.  it wasn't just swimming and arts&crafts, it
was people and intense friendships.  we had done a lot of
singing that summer, as always, but being an older camper i got
to learn better, cooler "friend" songs.  they're girl scout
songs so i won't even mention them.  i also got really into cat
stevens that summer and was very much into the pubescent
soul-searching who am i and who do i want to be thing.  anyways,
i'm at my lonely home away from camp friends and on a very weird
sleep schedule.  the weird part is i don't think i ever slept.
i was watching vh1 at about 2am and the closer to fine video
came on.  they embodied camp to me: women, intense thoughts,
harmony.  the next day i bought the tape and wore it out a year
or so later!  over the last 9 years the girls have helped to
heal some wounds.  its amazing how much a song you skip over
(ghost) suddenly becomes your favorite during tough times
(there's not enough room in this world for my pain).  yeah for
the girls!

aileen
(my first post to the list)

"how i wish i were a trinity, so if i lost a part of me, i'd
still have two others to make me whole."

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date:         mon, 23 jun 1997 09:41:05 -0400
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subject:      swapping boots

ok folkses, i have officially lost my mind.  before the men in white coats
come and take me away in one of those pretty white jackets with all the
buckles  <grin> i would like to get an email from each person to whom i owe a
boot.

wow, did that make any sense?

translation:  if i owe you a boot or anything at all, please email me, i have
gotten lost.

thanks!

peace, harmony & indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
emily:  we call ourselves amy ray.  we'll be here all night.
amy:  that's right.  amy ray.  get used to it.
emily: i'm amy, she's ray.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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hey, anyone interested in really good seats at the woodlands on june 25th?
right section- row d, seats 5 thru 9.  this section is right behind the
pit, which is the small first section.  the tickets are $36.50.  e-mail me
privately and let me know.  we can set up a place in houston to meet.

linda

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> jude said:
> >no offense to any of the other folks who are interested, but given the
> >sherlyn *was* the mistress of the ig list for a while, i think she
> >deserves first shot.. :)

i'm glad to see that i didn't even have to second the nomination (or
nth it!). which i gladly would have done.   congrats sherlyn! =)

> i'd like to call for a round of cheers for jude
> for single-handedly running the list so well (and
> so fearlessly :) for so long.  great job, jude!  you
> rock.

definately!  for those of you who may not know, when former
listmeister steve was forced to step down for personal reasons,
the ig list went into hibernation for about 2-3 months.  two people
independently regrouped us -- jude and sherlyn.  the list owes both
many thanks.

                hip hip hooray for the tigger and the pooh,

                                chris


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of course that should have been "piglet and the pooh" *sigh*

or in this case "piquet and the jude"  but enough said.....

                                -- chris

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remember when i posted about my column in teh zine powerstar? the ellen
one?? well in the letters to the editor today  in the new issue there is a
bitch letter about the column how bad it stunk <g> my first bad review of
a column ( and here i thought it would be my  new one which isnt that
long) anyway i just thought id tell the folks who did write me and ask for
the url and wrote me back about how they liked it that hey someone didnt i
myself thing he (yes it was a guy ) couldnt hang with the subject matter
anyway where the ig content here well its right here
will the 2 ladies ( the one who sent me the jc vid and the one who sent me
the poster and calanders) let me know if you got your tapes yet thanks
hugs anthony van pyre

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so i get up this morning and read that my dear pal andi was at pride
yesterday and talked to michelle malone, and got all jealous of michelle
because *i* haven't seen andi since early may :(

then i read that andi was going to go see michelle at the fez tonight,
and i figure, heck, i'm not doing anything today, it's not all that far
from boston to new york, and i can crash tonight whereever andi's staying

then i call andi and find out she can't go because she's got nowhere to
crash.  :(  :(  :(

i know some of you are going......can any of you spare a space on your
floors for two of your fellow listees?  i promise you, we're
harmless....and i'll make you breakfast in exchange....

email me back asap if you can, thanks...if this is gonna work i have to
be catching a train to nyc by around 2:30 i think.....

thanks,
audrey

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at 09:56 am 6/23/97 -0400, chris wrote:

>> i'd like to call for a round of cheers for jude
>> for single-handedly running the list so well (and
>> so fearlessly :) for so long.  great job, jude!  you
>> rock.
ach ach achem...
yyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyy jude!!!!!!!!!
<waving fist in the air ala arsinio hall> hwooo woo woo woo woo wooo woo woo
woo woo!!!!!
:-)
<snip>
>the ig list went into hibernation for about 2-3 months.  two people
>independently regrouped us -- jude and sherlyn.  the list owes both
>many thanks.
having just joined a little over a year ago, i didn't know this ( although
i'm sure it's somewhere in the faqs ) but now that i know... i'm impressed +
am very glad that sherlyn will be the new list co-owner. steller... very
steller:-)
peace y'all... kim
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skin baby, let it through... come on over now... amy ray
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oooh, this is fun, i'll hop on the bandwagon:  1989, 10th grade, and i was
the most clueless person about music.  luckily i have an aunt from atlanta
who had seen the girls a few times in clubs, and she sent me the newly
released self-titled album.  and hey, they've been my favorite artists
ever since!

deb the indigeek

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well,

the first time i ever listened to the girls i was at my sleepaway camp in
1994. one of my best friends put in a tape and on the mix was love's
recovery.  that night i borrowed her tape, listened to it over and over as i
fell asleep, and tried to memorize all of the words. after i knew the song
extremely well (only took me one day) i started to re-learn the guitar after
about 5 years of not playing. they sent me on a mission....and wouldn't you
know love's recovery was the first song i ever learned. when i got home from
camp i went out got all of their albums, guitar books, etc. to this day i'm
still learning more and more new things about them....incredible.

ilana

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where was i?  aagh, let's think . . .

ok, summer of '93, i was eleven years old and at camp.  at the counselor
talent show, a bunch of counselors got up and did closer to fine, and i sat
there thinking to myself "wow, that is one great song!"  i had the chorus
stuck in my head for days.  for some reason that song hit me on a spiritual
level that no music (at that time i was addicted to 50's rock, bon jovi, and
my 'rhythm (sp?) is a dancer' single) ever had before.  but, after a few
days, i moved on with my life without even knowing who the group was.

skip skip skip

seventh grade.  ugh.  a bad english teacher had i, and i hated his guts.  i
became obsessive about pearl jam's vs, especially leash (we are young/drop
the leash/get out of my fuckin' face).  i somehow joined bmg (have long
sinced dumped them. . . never join a mail order music club) music service and
ordered stp's core, which gave me credit for a free cd.  i had seen mle on
letterman, so i picked up yes i am.  i've listened to core all the way
through once, but i was immediately hooked on yia, and, when the next order
form came by, i got boys on the side.  when it came, i was hooked on pot
(that's power of two, not pot =0).  some group called the indigo girls . . .

summer after seventh grade: i'm 13 and it's the summer of '95.  at the camper
talent show, ashley and alex get up and do closer to fine, and i recognize it
from when i was eleven.  this time, i learn it's by the indigo girls.  also,
at the final campfire, the cts do galileo.

next summer: i'm sick of grunge.  courtney love is a loser, cobain is dead,
and pearl jam has become lame.  i find out a sizeable group of the counselors
are lesbians.  i needed music to listen to, but nothing filled the need; not
even mle.  so, i sneak out of my cabin at rest hour and find my friend in her
cabin.  i ask her if i can borrow her ig tape, and she says sure.  every
night for the rest of camp i listened to that tape over and over . . . the
words would grab me and my mind would fly away from my cabinmates and their
idiodic conversations (all of which included the word 'bitch' every other
sentence) when camp ended i ran out and bought rop and ig.  by december, i
had everything save for so and 1200 curfews, and by february i had those.

right now i'm in a sots faze, but whenever i feel the need, i put on ig and
i'm immediately taken back to the warm summer breeze, the smell of the pine,
and sound of the lake . . .

ok, i'll shut up now . . . =)

-elizabeth

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"where will i, where will i, where will i, where will i be?"

http://members.aol.com/wishmonstr/ewebpg.htm
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darren wrote:
>>>the year was 1989, and i was in 8th grade.  i was a huuuuuge rem fan, and
i had 3rd row seats to their concert the next month at the omni in
atlanta.  and it was a sunday night.  i was busy doing some work for my
literature class, and i had wkls (96 rock)'s peach jam show on in my
room.  and they had these two special guests in the studio...amy and
emily.

that night i thought they were pretty good, and i was excited about
seeing them open for rem.  when i saw them live on that april 1st, i
fell
in love.  of curse, i still thought rem was much much better, but i fell
in love with these two girls up on stage.

8 years and 22 concerts later, i still think they're pretty spiffy...

darren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i was beginning to think i was the only one on this list at that show.
whew!
leann

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to:     femlezv@aol.com, festivalnet@gate.ioa.com (festival network online),
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date: 97-06-23 09:16:51 edt

june & july schedule for commonbond keep a watch out
for updates.  always call clubs for confirmation.

june:   25 phase i 9-11    washington, dc
        27 sisters 10-1    philadelphia, pa
        28 savory cafe     takoma park, md

july:
        4&5 plumb loco          10-1    rehoboth beach, de
        9  henrietta hudsons    9:00    new york, ny
        12 grizzly's            9-1     crain hwy. waldorf, md
        15 o'briens             8:30 open for leslie tucker
        16 phase i              9-11    washington, dc
        17 coconuts             8:30-10:30 baltimore, md
     18-20 frogg pond           9-1     rehoboth beach, de
        22 sister's             9-12    philadelphia, pa
        23 babe                 9-12    richmond, va
        24 legends              10-12   raleigh, nc
        25 traxx                call    columbia, sc
        26 bele chere           2:00    asheville, nc
           & hair spray         9:00    asheville, nc
        31 all about eve        8-10    durham, nc

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> >no offense to any of the other folks who are interested, but given the
> >sherlyn *was* the mistress of the ig list for a while, i think she
> >deserves first shot.. :)
>
> well i second this motion! sherlyn is cool -- in her own little dorky way,
> of course :) and deserves our support as co-listowner. i think she'll do a
> super job!

i'm sorry, but i have to correct you on this. sherlyn is _way_ cool. not
just cool. a better co-listowner there simply couldn't be. :)

just offering a public cheer for the australian faction. :)
yay sherlyn! :)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

still driving...
lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

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in the summer of 1989.  jsut before my senior year in college.  a friend
of mine had been raving about them, but i didnt take it seriously at
first.  being a self-righteous young womens studies major, i couldnt
fathom liking a band that called themselves girls.  one day, i found
myself in harvard square and saw the self titled album on sale.  i
figured i'd trust my friend's taste and picked it up.  that weekend,
i took my little inflatable raft out on the lake on campus and listened
to the tape twice through.  love's recovery was my first favorite
song.

funny thing is, that album is not the one which brings me back to that
summer.  that honor goes to tanita tikaram's ancient heart, which i
nearly wore out.  but, once, i got hooked on ig, i learned quickly
there was no going back :)


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amy p.                    \       /     who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
the original photo monk      \ /                --patty larkin
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hello everyone,

for those of you who are interested (and may not remember) this show which
i am now ready to review was on june 12th in cuyahoga falls, ohio.  okay.
now we're all with me, i hope.

well, this concert began in a different way for me than any other ig
concert i've been to, so i gotta tell ya about that first.  (heck, there
were many unique things about this show...)  anyway, my partner and i
invited two of our ig fan friends along with us to the show, as "gifts"
you could say.  never done that before, been to an ig concert w/anyone
else than just my partner, that is.  (that *is* a necessary tidbit of
info...) so, we're all hanging out near the bathrooms and concession
stands after ulali, it's about 9:02 or 9:03 or something and i tell my one
friend, audra, ig usually go on at about 9:05, 9:10, 9:15, or somewhere
there about (from my experience this tour).

--oh, before i forget, i must say, about ulali, i love them.  jennifer is
a treat to watch perform, she has such sweet onstage charisma...  finally
got their album, listened to it on the way home from the concert.  i've
seen crowds more respectful, but the people at blossom we're generally
receptive.  my partner and i gave a standing ovation, and realized we've
seen ulali more times than any other performer, except ig, of course!--

ok, so back to hanging out, discussing the girls on-stage time.  well, the
background music which plays on the loudspeakers changed as i was
finishing my sentence.  it got much louder and sounded like just drums...
(maybe it happens at every show, but it was the first time this tour i
experienced it)  so everyone in the audience starts cheering and clapping,
and i think to myself, they must think ig are coming out, but i've never
heard this drum thing before, so i don't know.  my partner, my friends,
and i all look at each other with a look like, maybe the crowd is right.
so we start walking toward our seats.  then we start walking faster, then
trotting (yes, just like horses ;).

then the lights go down, by this time we're in the pavilion and running to
our seats.  the crowd is screaming and cheering louder.  my partner runs
towards a trash can to throw her beer cup away.  the fans start screaming
even louder, so loud i feel as if my ears are gonna crush (honestly!), i
look toward the stage, see that amy and emily have walked out, grab my
partner's arm and holler to her the good news (amy's wearing white
pants!), and drag her toward our seats.  (she tells me i caused her to
spill beer on her sleeve, i apologize) the girls are singing tried to be
true as we arrive at our seats, which aren't empty... :(  the two persons
there see us and begin to leave, no questions asked, they say sorry.  i
walk to my seats as if they weren't there at all, pull my partner into the
aisle, and commence ecstacy!  it was a fabulous beginning.  such a rush!
(literally, even)  who cares about the two people, who then proceded to
find the next two empty closer seats.  how polite.

next follows a superb blur of a set list mostly sots and so, of course,
with nooooo complaints from me.  most of the usual stuff.  ok, i'll try to
be a little more exact.  from memory now, in no particular order:  all of
sots 'cept it's alright (i *think*...), uhh, lc, po2, galileo last (before
encores), 1st encore included blood quantum and ctf, can't remember the
third one, (someone shoot me) and a totally unexpected, but *perfect* end
to the evening's performance a second encore of kid fears.  sorry, i'm not
more specific, i've looked at so many set lists lately, i don't want to
give any incorrect info.  ok, and now a worthy excuse for why i am not
remembering songs, or order:

if my long recounting of the "beginning" was any hint, i had the most fun
at this show than any other ig show!  i more than thoroughly enjoyed
myself.  to those of you who may remember my recent "complaint" about not
liking "sing-alongs," i don't know what happened, but i was singing along
the whole show.  and i mean singing along.  by the time kid fears rolled
around, i had screamed and hollered in between songs so much i only had
a ghost of a voice left.  i could sing really low though. :)  i also
boogied, wait i don't boogie, i danced, uh, i was "bumpin' like a pinball
off a careless crowd," nah, i was just standing up and movin'!  another
fabulously cool thing toward the end of the show was people in my row
trickling out of my aisle, so that i soon had 10 empty seats or more
beside me, which i used about 3, 4, or 5 of them.  two (or more) people in
front of me were swaying together.  standing behind them was like
"there's the girls, there's the people, there's the girls, there's the
people..." crazy...  so i couldn't stand right next to my partner.  she
was surrounded by us crazy dancin' fools and thought i was especially
weird for being so active!  so, she didn't mind that there was a little
distance between us.

for a while i thought it was just me, knowing that this would be my last
concert for two months (after seeing them a miraculous 4 times in the last
2 months) and milking it for all it was worth.  but, a little into the
show, heck maybe half way, amy said something to the effect that the crowd
seemed like a partyin' crowd (anyone remember anything more particular?).
and then i realized, yeah, this crowd is really cool.  not the coolest on
earth (i don't know every crowd), but pretty darn rockin'.  there were a
few murmurs during some new "slow" songs.  but, i am also a participant in
meaningless banter to my partner every now and then during shows.  well,
it's meaningful to us, but prolly bothersome to those around, if we're
ever loud.  overall, the crowd did not detract from my experience.  i am
grateful for that.  i don't hate crowds of ig fans, but i think ya'll know
that sometimes rude or "pop" crowds can be annoying...  but enough of
that, this is a positive review! :)

well, i'm running out of steam for this post, now.  if you've read this
far, i'm sure you're applauding.  there's more i could say, but it would
just be even more incoherent.  btw, i think i've given up on "ranking" my
ig concert experiences.  after a few concerts i  kinda did it just out of
semi-interest.  but now it's getting really difficult to compare concerts.
case in point, in deciding whether this concert or penn state was my
"favorite," the "factors" of both shows were often different and just
unable to be compared.  so basically i've decided that they were two
fabulous shows, for different reasons and in sometimes different
respects. to paraphrase my friend, eric, about this "ranking" subject,
when melissa goes to an indigo girls concert we know she's going to have a
wonderful time, she's going to enjoy herself immensely, but there is just
a slight variation to each individual concert.

ok, i'm done.  i promise.  for those who have read this far, i appreciate
it.  hope you enjoyed reading as much as i did writing. :)  just remember,
it takes longer to type than to read. :)

peace, melissa

-find myself becoming more immobile, when i think a little girl in
the world can't do anything -e.s.

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -a.r.

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well lets see......

ahhhh, yes. we had just stormed carthage, after we sacked the
city we went down to the sea to wash our swords, when
this infantryman starts singing some song called "strange fire".
naturally, i had him killed immediately.
well i just couldn't allow that among my hoardes you know.

warm regards,
hannibal

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from: elizabeth nolf
*** resending note of 06/23/97 09:47
subject: re: where were you
to: smtp2   --iinus1

from: elizabeth nolf
subject: re: where were you
ok i have to post. i was in my fourth year of university, living at my
parents again after being on my own for two years, in my old bedroom
with my sister, miserable. allegedly writing my pathetic excuse for a
thesis. listening to the only alternative station in sydney (jjj) then
ctf came on. i was instantly caught... sitting there drinking in the
song, hoping like hell that the dj would back announce it. thankfully he
did. off i trotted down the record shop spending my non-existent savings
on "indigo girls" - on vinyl, no less, that's how long ago it was. i was
so glad that it had been released in oz. then i became a fan, making my
sister learn the harmonies, buying the songbooks. no chance of them ever
touring down under in those days. when they finally came to sydney in
95, i saw both shows. then i came over here to the us and guess what
they stopped touring for ages and ages. i saw one of the first shows in
this current tour though - in norton, ma. had to go by myself since we
just moved here, my husband was away and i had no-one at all to go
with.. but did that stop me? no! just me and all the college girls!

anyway the song i will treasure most always is love will come to you -
"try to pretend there's more than love that matters..." - when i was
single for what felt like eternity that really struck a chord. i felt
that someone understood what i was going through! i love the girls to
death.it's great being over here and finally finding that people have
actually heard of them. if any of you live anywhere near newport ri,
lets get together and sing (i need to be emily though!)

"thanks y'all"

elizabeth (enolf@vnet.ibm.com)

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the indigo girls list is not just any ordinary internet list. with this in
mind, i believe there are a few other necessary qualities a co-list owner
should embody. here are my 5 additional suggestions.

******************************
1. be able to burp out closer to fine.

2. must have the letters n,i,g and c in their name.

3. is not a republican. (this is just the test for mental competency)

4. still believes that bootlegs grow on boot trees.

5. is not named steve case. i mean he screwed up aol, who knows what he could
do to the list.

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smiles :-)
annemarie

p.s. i think sherlyn would make a wonderful list co-owner!!!!

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i can't even remember the first time i heard the girls.  i can't
remember a time when i _didn't_ hear them.  i do remember buying
the self titled disc on vinyl!  it may have been the last 'record'
i bought--certainly close to it!  i also recall seeing them on
letterman doing ctf--but i already had the record by then.
i still find myslef using the girls cd releases as a sort of internal
calendar.
"such and such happened around the time of nomads indians
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on sun, 22 jun 1997, kirsten chevalier wrote:

> >
> > "my cat's breath smells like catfood."
> >
> >
> cat food. i think i'll paint the ceiling with cat food.
> kirsten

what kind?  i would recommend the tuna variety.  not only does it stick
well, but it drives the kitties crazy when they smell it.  ever seen a cat
try to scale a flat wall?
amy
>

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on fri, 20 jun 1997, liz turcotte wrote:

> >date:  fri, 20 jun 1997
> >from: yougfemme@aol.com
>
> >i am currently writing a book on amy ray and have been gathering
> >research to make it as long as i can..
>
> eek. anyone else besides me who thinks this might not be such a great
> idea?
>
> -liz-

yeah, me!  leave poor amy alone...
                 sharoane, who thinks books should be written about people
after they die or something...and did anyone else peek into jodie foster's
bio to get that answer to the question that burns in us all? *blush of
shame*
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i was painting the salon area in a windjammer off the coast of maine when
the first strains of closer to fine came down through the deck from the
heads where the deckhand had locked himself in to paint.  a few days
later my fellow mess-mate stuck "indigo girls" into her tapeplayer that
did the auto-flip thing and made us listen to it for hours on end. at
first i hated it but by the sixth hour i had memorized all the songs and
was in love.
   it's a true story!
                    sharoane

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--- amy my savior putnam wrote:
, i couldnt
fathom liking a band that called themselves girls.
--- end of quoted material ---
man amy, i've known we were soulsisters for some time, but this seals it. i had
the *hardest* time with this when i started listening to the <ahem> girls in
1989.as i got older and even more intense, i just thought i was sooo
righteous... had my agenda, had my doc martens, had my now card, my bikini kill
tshirt.... and i couldn't handle being utterly entranced with grown women who
called themselves girls.

then i realized the important thing is we should call ourselves what we,
individually, want to be called. so if that's indigo girls, so be it. altho you
better never call me a girl or i'll kick yer arse.

ha! good thing i've mellowed out since then! now i'm only a mildly radical
feminist. just goes to show you should never take yourself, or your causes, too
seriously

love at ya, peeples

susanna

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>
> on sun, 22 jun 1997, kirsten chevalier wrote:
>
> > >
> > > "my cat's breath smells like catfood."
> > >
> > >
> > cat food. i think i'll paint the ceiling with cat food.
> > kirsten
>
> what kind?  i would recommend the tuna variety.  not only does it stick
> well, but it drives the kitties crazy when they smell it.  ever seen a cat
> try to scale a flat wall?
well, since i don't have any cats, that wouldn't really be an issue *grin*.
i'd probably use vegetarian cat food, though...
kirsten


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> as i got older and even more intense, i just thought i was sooo
> righteous...
well, of course you didn't just think you were righteous, you were!
it's just that badass feminists are like cheese...they can only get more
righteous with time...:-)

anyone want to second me on this?!
kirsten

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>where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
>girls?

>>well, i heard ctf on mtv. most of us probably did.<<

yes.  i was 19 and working at a group home for children with disabilities.
we watched mtv all the time and ctf was in heavy rotation that summer.
later that fall i was going out with a bunch of friends for "girls' night
out" and one of our friends put the tape in my car stereo.  drunkenly, she
said, "well, i heard they're lesbians, but i can still relate because
their words...their words are so...." and then she passed out.
i still always laugh about that introduction.

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on sun, 22 jun 1997, jenniferannrebekahbubka wrote:

> a few people have already gotten back to me about meeting up for the
> michelle malone show this monday night at the fez in nyc (please e-mail me
> again if you are one of those people.) i know that doors open at 8:00, and
> that michelle is scheduled to go on at 10:00. melissa sheenan is playing
> first. tickets are $10, and you will need to call #(212)533-5680 and make
> reservations. the place holds about 150 people, and is located at 380
> lafayette st and great jones st (near bleeker.) any other info you may need
> i probably have, so just ask. what has been done in the past as far as
> listees recognizing eachother when they are supposed to meet somewhere. i'm
> really wondering what the best thing to do is, especially in a place as
> vast as nyc. i know that the fez opens at 6pm, would anyone be interested
> in meeting, say 6:30-7ish for dinner beforehand? please let me know, i
> think we'd all have a great time together!
>
> goodnight & hope to hear from a few other fans,
> jenn "bubbles" bubka    (bubka@peconic.net)
>


jenn or anyone else who gets this in the next hour (by ~4pm) could you
please write me back and lemme know what the scoop is on folks
gathering?  i don't know what the heck i'm doing.  my two friends i was
gonna go with couldn't get off of work so i'm probably going solo which
is why i'd especially like to find list folks besides just the general
folks-round-here-are-pretty-cool thing.  i also don't know when i'm
leaving.  if i take a train i think i have to either leave at 4:16 or
7:16 (which puts me at penn station at 8:30 in which case i sincerely
hope you're right about michelle not going on til 10.  last time i saw
her there, she played fierst, followed by david poe.) or maybe i could
get adifferent line but i don't know.  whatever, nobody cares about my
transportation problems.
     in short, if someone who's going reads this before they leave, could
ya drop me a quick note abouit who's gonna be there, where to look for
you?  myself - i'm 20, 5'4", short brown hair, dressed entirely in blue.
if you see someone there who that sounds like, flag me down.


             -colleen

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    when i first heard the indigo-girls, i was waking up. some live version
of "bury my heart" was playing. i have to admit (and i hope you will excuse
my much made up for ignorance) that i thought it was melissa etheridge. i was
like "damn, melissa sounds great!! who is the girl singing with her?!?!?!?
they sound great together!" at the end of the song, the anouncer said who it
was, and i thought "hey, i should get an album"...of course i didn't for some
time to come (as i had no money) , but instead joined a wild clan of music
hungry lesbians, an got my fill of ig! :o) yaya! love, mary

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    i should have said this in my last post, but i forgot.... i am really
glad we are doing something fun on the list again! :o) {{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}} mary

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i was at this shmabulous tailgate party two weeks ago, and after it ended,
i was strolling around the grounds looking for a bathroom and heard these
way kewl singers playing lots of fun instruments....i was immediately taken
in, and it's been a great two weeks ever since.

so, i've been meaning to ask...where did they come up the the name "indigo
girls?"

;o)


joni  :o)

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hi y'all. writing this mainly for those who are volunteering time for
emily's birthday present, and others who may have decided to join in. there
is a fair chance that we will be able to show it to her this saturday!!!!!
we can wait on mailing the final version until the first week of august if
we need to.

i would like everyone who has volunteered to be a part of this project to
email me with the name of the organization toward which they contributed
hours. if you decided to help friends, relatives, families, that is great,
and you can just tell me that. those of you who are done volunteering, go
ahead and give me your hours and indicate that you will not be updating me
anymore. in this case, in the subject line, please say "gof:done".

those of you who are still working on hours, please let me know the name of
the organization anyway, because we are getting together a mock-up of the
certificate for the girls to have a look at, and i would like to include as
much information in it as i can. in this case, in the subject line, please
say "gof: ongoing".

all these directions are to make it easier on me, but don't worry if you
put in the wrong subj. line.

my email @ neat, nifty, and relevant ig lines to put on the certificate has
largely gone unanswered. i know there are a couple few out there who could
recite the ig lyrics to any song even if woken up in the middle of deep
sleep. i could really use some suggestions here. remember, we are looking
for lines from any ig song that relate to helping others, doing something
in their communities, being part of a global world...anything at all!

i will be emailing this a few times over in the next few days, so please be
patient about seeing this over and over.

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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oh forgot to mention, i would appreciate all participants also mailing me
their names as they would like to have them appear on the certificate. so
basically tell me:

your name?
which organization you volunteered at (or if friend, family, neighbor or
relative)?
are you done volunteering?
if so, how many hours?

thanks y'all. this is really exciting!

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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well, the first time i heard them was about two years ago at my camp friends
house-but i wasn't very open minded because she liked a lot of stuff that i
didn't, so i didn't really listen to what was playing and that was that.
then, that summer i was at camp and my counselor woke us up every morning by
playing galileo which she had on a mix. i really liked it and asked her who
it was by and she said indigo girls, and i remembered that. when i got home,
i meant to buy a cd, but then i totally forgot. then, i was in the car with
my friend on the way somewhere and he put in 1200 curfews and i reaaly liked
it, so i went out and got it. then i got all the others and some boots and
i'm completely obsessed. that wasn't even 2 years ago....
anna

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subject:      where am i?!

well, it all started many moons ago.

no...i guess not. i was 18. just a kid, really. innocent to life's painful
and treacherous journey. (does treacherous have an "a" in it?)   my
girlfriend at the time gave me a "love mix". it had land of canaan (my
favorite still), i don't wanna know, strange fire, and closer to fine on
it.  i listened once. then i rewound. listened again. when emily ripped
out the land of canaan guitar solo, i cranked it up as high as it would go
and danced around the living room, jumping and screaming. i still get that
feeling if i really listen closely to the solo.

now i'm 19, and my heart is more cautious than before. it has been exactly
a year since loc rang through my ears. i own every cd ever made, and a few
boots. i know a ton of songs on the guitar, and i'm always starving for
more indigo. *sigh* it's never enough....what a drug amy and emily are!
it's like a natural high sometimes.

-liz-

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a few things:

1.  where were you.  sometime in mid-1993, i started to get interested in
music.  i'd always been interested in singing it, just not really in
listening to it.  i started with basically joni mitchell, joni mitchell, and
tmbg. <g>  then my dad played a couple of cds for me which stuck, and got me
started with the whole "contemporary folk" movement: nanci griffith's stuff
and the ig self-titled album.  i listened to that for over a year before i
went off to camp and met up with some real ig fans.  my friend isaac would
play ig songs on the guitar, and we would all sing . . . i would sing ctf,
and listen in awe as they sang least complicated, romeo and juliet, and all
of the other stuff from rop and so, which had just come out.  after that, i
went out and bought all of the albums except for strange fire, for some
reason, and never looked back. :)

2.  is anyone planning on going to the lilith fair date in scanton, pa at
montage mountain?  i just got tickets, in section 700, row k . . . i have no
idea if those are good or bad, though. <g>  if anyone has been there before
and knows the layout, i'd really appreciate any help here. :)

                                                      laura

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> hey all,
>
>         if anyone knows of a dallas show get together
> please let me know.
>
> thanks,
>
> cindy

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subject:      nigc:  l.a. july 3rd tix?

i was just curious.  for those of you who ordered tix through bass (on the
phone),
for the 2nd l.a. show - have you received your tickets in the mail?  i
ordered mine the day they went on sale and have not received them.  when i
called today they said they were just being mailed out today.  i wanted to
know if anyone already got theirs?  i am on the verge of being in the panic
mode because i will be in l.a. all next week, so i really need to get ahold
of my tix asap.

also for those planning on going to tower on sunset blvd. any idea when i
should show up?  the signing is at 2pm, i plan to get there earlier, i just
don't know how early so that i don't get stuck in a long line.

have an indigo day....

rose

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hi everyone!  :)

i know i don't post all that often, and many of you probably don't
know me -- but i've been a part of this list for quite some time.  i
love everything -- the information, reviews, friendly banter and
ponderings.  <grin>

i am off to summer camp this week so i must resign from the list
until school begins again in september.  would some kind friend
out there please keep my e-mail address and send me alll of the
list's concert-going reviews, set lists, stage dialogue, etc.  i find
it quite a joy to read all of your opinions of the performances.
i am seeing ig at lilith fair in toronto [along with the sublime sarah
mclachlan] and am _thrilled_.  it will be my first indigo girls
concert.  :)

have fun and take care all!  thanks for everything.

sincerely,
lisa j. :)
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idgie:she's trying to teach me how to cook!
ruth:look at those fried green tomatoes!

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greetings all,

just to add to the chorus of acclaim for sots, i will reprint here
probably the shortest and possibly the tardiest review of sots. it ran
in the left-leaning (ok, socialist) utne reader magazine ("the best of
the alternative media") in their latest bi-monthly issue, arrived
saturday.

--
shaming of the sun: indigo girls (sony). with a new intensity in their
playing, the indigo girls have never sounded more in sync.
--

that's it. and alongside of the box containing all 7 of this month's
reviews was "i'm gonna clear my head i'm gonna drink that sun i'm gonna
love you good and strong while our love is good and young" with
attribution to emily.

dave

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   first time i heard the indigo girls i was a freshman in college (1989).
they were part of a pre-game mix our basketball team always listened to
during warm-ups. i remember turning to the one girl and saying: "i can't get
that 'closer to fine' song out of my head! who sings it?" and she said, "you
don't know?!?!" i bought the cd the next day!

   btw, about a month ago i posted to the list looking for some info on
philadelphia. i was hoping to make some human connections before i moved to
phila and began grad school at temple u. in that same post, i also mentioned
that i saw ellen degeneres singing 'put down the duckie' with elmo on sesame
street.

someone from the ig list reposted my post on the ellen list. as a result, a
kewl womyn named kelli (from the ellen list) responded to my post. i now
live in phila and kelli and i are buds!

thanx to the spicy chick (or rooster) who reposted my message! btw,  i'm
always looking for kewl phila people to meet! feel free to email me! :o)~

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okay...

the first time i remember hearing the girls (i was at college in those
days and i am sure i had heard them far off before and not been able to
grasp) it was my first year of college, so 1990. the power went out one
night at school and my friend brought her battery op tape player out
into the hallway and we listened and burned inscence with a lot of
people all night...(well, probably till 2 or 3)

the song i remember from that night is secure yourself. i loved it then.
i was not however a truly mad fan until....

the night a year and ha half aftert that when i was in belfast, northern
ireland, and saw a poster advertising a concert of theirs, dragged my
friend collee, bought tix for 5 quid (8 bucks!!!) and saw the girls for
my first time in a tiny beautiful funky disco on the wrong side of town
in a war zone.

i met them that night and they were so sweet and funny and really
concerned about the troubles and sang a bunch of music that really
soothed my soul when i wa so tired (i was working with women and
children whose husbands andkids and been killed or incarcerated on both
sides of the troubles and i was way worn out)...they saved me.

when i came out a year later, they saved me.

when friends have died, they've saved me.

ok, enough

this is a long post, golly!

but, i hope if you stayed reading with me this long, that you'll
understand.

love

larissa

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hi everyone,

deb reiser said:
>> well i second this motion! sherlyn is cool -- in her own little dorky way,
>> of course :) and deserves our support as co-listowner. i think she'll do a
>> super job!

and lorinda responded:
>i'm sorry, but i have to correct you on this. sherlyn is _way_ cool. not
>just cool. a better co-listowner there simply couldn't be. :)

thanks guys. :)  (lorinda, i notice you didn't refute
the bit about me being a dork though.  and deb, you're
a big suckup. :)  thanks to chris and jen and everyone
else who wrote me too.

just a quick plug for one of my favourite artists of
all time: susan werner's "live at tin angel" and
"midwestern saturday night" are both available again
now.  you can order both from susan's new web site at
http://www.songs.com/susan.  lata is one of the best
albums ever recorded and i definitely recommend it to
anyone.

enough nigc - back to your regularly scheduled
programming...
sherlyn
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    "my ears are lucky to hear these
     glorious songs of inspiration,
     and voices crafted from thunder;
     the power of life..."      - happy rhodes

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so sorry to bug everyone...
abby m. i got your blanks (all of them...) but no note or email addy.  i
don't know which boots you want me to dub for you.  please e-mail me, k?

hasta all
seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu

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on mon, 23 jun 1997, joni wrote:

> so, i've been meaning to ask...where did they come up the the name "indigo
> girls?"

from their manager, rodney carper.  when he first met the "girls",
they both happened to be wearing dark blue shirts.  with plain names
like amy ray and emily saliers, he couldn't remember what they were
called.  so, he just kept refering to them as the "indigo girls", and
it stuck.  (side note - amy was kinda pissed about it at first since
she really wanted the name "chartruce girls")

;)
anna

"i like to write really quiet songs on the electric guitar."  -amy ray


http://narnia.emu.edu/pub/students/creechal/creechal.htm

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ok this is a blatant plug.

kim baker is a nifty musician and i know all of you would love her. she
has performed with both kristen hall and caroline aiken (in fact,
caroline is on the new cd)
she has a cd her first! go kim! :) coming out in the fall and has some
gigs lined up before that. if anyone lives in either california (north
or south)  or colorado or is going to the folks festival, she will be
around, please go see her and support her she and her partner are old
college buddies and they are soooooo great to listen to!

thanks for tuning in,


larissa

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hey! just thought i would tell you i have a new handle and stuff! i am still
the same person! i am!!! hehe! :o) mary

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oh yeah! it might also be a good idea to tell you that i used to be
cedartree2! :þ

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hey i just wanted to know if someone could explain to me why being called a
girl is so silly. i'm 25 and have not yet grown into the word woman. being
married hasn't helped me feel more comfortable with it. it just sounds so
grown up. girl is fine by me except last week when i was called a good girl
by a total stranger. *gag* i know that the term is tainted by the spice
girls (despite their supposed claim to girl power) but i really don't see
what the problem is. even in my own rampant feminist days at uni i didn't
really have a problem with it. i am still feminist (was accused of being
such yesterday) and really don't mind the term girls being used in this
way.

helen

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hey all,

  i'm signing off the list from june 27 until july 12.  we will be on the
road with the girls, well not with them, sort of following their dust you
could say.  my poor computer (me too)  would be too overwhelmed by two weeks
of messages.  i'd love to read the reviews for these concerts:

7/1  san diego
7/2 and 7/3 los angeles
7/5 and 7/6  berkeley
7/7  jacksonville, or
7/9 and 7/10  champoeg state park, or
7/11  seattle

would some kind soul take pity on me?  all ya gotta do is fwd any reviews to
me.  if someone thinks they may want to do this let me know.  if this is too
much to ask, sorry for offending you but, i'm greedy!

many thanks,

catherine

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i have to say i am enjoying this thread so much. i'm reading every single
post on it and shaking my head in wonder when i learn that some of you got
into them as little as two weeks ago. when i think what a gaping hole would
be in my life now without amy and emily going everywhere with me since 1993,
my mind just freezes in horror. in the same way, i'm amazed to learn that
people here have been following them since as long ago as 1987 or 88. god
if someone had just dropped an ig cd (ok, or tape or record) into my lap in
the midst of my bon jovi/madonna phases i might have had a different
decade. oh well. keep these posts coming! they're wonderful!

helen

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ooooh, i have to add to this one. i always thought it was 1987 when i first
ehard them, but it must have been 1989. i dunno- one of those two years- i
was young enough that they blend in my mind- sort of the early camp years.  i
was at camp- having just finished 5th grade. every friday night, we had this
thing called creative service- a different gorup was in charge of planning
it, with a theme- like frienship, tolerance, etc. and we would sing songs-
all folky stuff. camp is definitely where my music taste was formed. the
woman who played guitar was sort of a mentor. anyway, one of those years(1987
or 1989), we had a song in the repertoire that we all liked a lot. it was
called closer to fine. and when i got home that summer, i bought myself the
tape. for about a year, i would listen, but i would only listen to that one
song. then one night, i forgot to hit stop, and ended up listening to the
whole album. "and that was the beginning...of the rest of my life."


smiling now at the memories-
sari

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so far, it looks like i'm the only one who began my ig experience with
you and me of the 10,00 wars!

i had never even heard of the ig when a group of my friends chose to
perform 10k in our high school variety show back in 1993. they had a
twelve-string and a madolin and everything and they were really
wonderful. i fell in love with the song and its harmonies and its message
immediately and went out to find more. i ended up only finding strange
fire, and played it over and over all summer. in college, all my
soulmates ended up being ig fans for several years as well, and it seems
each time in my life is marked by memories of a different album. so will
always remind me of moving in sophomore year with my now
bestest-of-friends - and this year, after graduation, we went together to
see opening night at chastain, and i cried my way straight through hkf,
as it was probly our last weekend together for a long long time...

anyhow, its so wonderful to see how their music has touched all of us -
it seems like just as their music grows in its maturity, we all have our
own ways of growing with it, too. thanks for reading!

-- cheryl
__________________________________________________________________________
while you and i have lips and voices which are for kissing and to sing
with who cares if some one-eyed son of a bitch invents an instrument to
measure spring with?                                      e.e.cummings

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subject:      re: where were you?

where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
girls?

i was in my car on a sunny day, in 1992, off of work and listening to a now
defunct dallas station (cd107.9), which always played off beat stuff in
addition to the regular fare. as a song started, i heard these really unique
sounding drums with the coolest beat, and i thought,"hm, this is
interesting.".
then came the guitar, followed by the most inspiring lyrics and harmony i'd
ever heard.  i then started praying that the deejay would say who the group
was, since that station was famous for never announcing artists names. at the
end of the song he gave the name and i went straight to hastings records and
bought rites of passage from a single hearing of galileo. the next week, i
bought everything they'd done up to that point.
it wasn't until two years later on the swamp tour that i got to go to my
first ig concert. i had front row seats for that show and it was just the
girls, no band. it was a spiritual experience, to say the least. after the
show, the friend who went with me, and i went to the back of the starplex to
try to catch a glimpse of the girls. there were hardly any folks there at the
back, and we could see them doing their backstage "thing"! we decided to sing
an a capella version of land of canaan, and as we were singing, these two
girls chimed in and we did a four part harmony of it!  amy waved at us! it
was so cool. one of the girls that we met that night became my honey, and
we've been singing ever since.
                                               chelle {o}---:::

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i wouldn't call utne reader exactly socialist.  it's more like the people
magazine of the alternative press.  trendy left-ish quickies.  fun for the
progressive on the go.

on mon, 23 jun 1997, david a. van hemel wrote:
> just to add to the chorus of acclaim for sots, i will reprint here
> probably the shortest and possibly the tardiest review of sots. it ran
> in the left-leaning (ok, socialist) utne reader magazine ("the best of
> the alternative media") in their latest bi-monthly issue, arrived
> saturday.

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subject:      nigc: lilith fair website?

i am trying to find the lilith fair website.  does anyone know the address?
if so, please let me know.  your help is much appreciated.

jenny

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subject:      re: woman's festival, which one?

i doubt that the 'girls' as you (mark anthony...by the way, do you know of
any egyptian princesses?)  refer to them as ( i personally like the 'blue
chicks') will be playing at the womyn's music festival in michigan, as they
will be touring with the lilith fair at that time.  though i could be wrong,
but doubtful.

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outvoice!!  (june 22-28, 1997)

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* new; ** re-entry; + gaining votes; < losing votes, ~ votes holding steady
all caps means it has made it to the # 1 position.

top 10 tracks:

1.  shame on you - indigo girls<  (3rd week at #1)
2.  words and guitar - sleater-kinney~
3.  your woman - white town<
4.  don't say your love is killing me - erasure~
5.  it's alright - indigo girls*
6.  in your life - mark eitzel+
7.  rain - erasure*
8.  in my arms - erasure+
9.  lord grunge - the frogs~
10. rapture - erasure**

     the indigo girls hold on to the top spot for a third week with "shame
on you."  they also debut at #5 with "it's alright."  erasure seems to be
storming the chart with tracks.  they debut at #7 with "rain" and re-enter
at #10 with "rapture" to give them 4 songs in this weeks top 10.  three
songs drop out this week and they are:  "monkey wrench" by foo fighters,
"hedonism (just because you feel good)" by skunk anansie and "i'll try for
the sun" by donovan.

top 10 albums:

1.  shaming of the sun - indigo girls<  (3rd week at #1)
2.  drag - k.d. lang+
3.  living in clip - ani difranco+
4.  cowboy - erasure+
5.  dig me out - sleater-kinney~
6.  happy town - jill sobule**
7.  sweet enuf 2 eat - men out loud+
8.  west - mark eitzel+
9.  starjob - the frogs~
10. stoosh - skunk anansie<

     third week on top for "shaming of the sun" by the indigo girls.  can
they hang on to #1 next week?  k.d. lang is closing in fast with "drag" at
#2.  jill sobule re-enters the chart with her former #1 album "happy town"
at #6 and the 4-cd box set "club verboten" drops out of the top 10 this week.

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subject:      where i was...

it was the summer after my sophmore year of hs so 1992 i think.  i was chosen
to go to this week long camp called t.i.g.s. which stands for teen institute
of the garden state.  there are peer counselors there called yacs and others
called cats (college age tigs staff) one of their purposes is to get everyone
else psyched up for certain events and they would do cheers or sometimes put
on skits or sing songs.  one time they sang ctf.  they did these really cute
gestures at the chorus when they sang lines like "went to the mountains, i
looked to the children, i drank from the fountains"  another time they sang
galileo.  i fell in love with the lyrics to both of these songs, my love of
ig themselves would come soon after i got home and bought indigo girls and
rop.  now i have every cd and it's the only music i can listen to at any
time, no matter what mood i'm in and i never get tired of it.

~an observation... has anyone else noticed how many of us were at camp when
we discovered ig?~

and since i told you where i was i thought i'd tell you where my mother was.
  last week we went to visit the college i was recently accepted into and i
brought along my so cd for the ride.  she wanted to listen to natalie
merchant (not that i don't like her) but i said "let's listen to this first,
i need the inspiration" so i put it on and when it was over i went to change
it for natalie and mom said "no, lets listen to that one again"
now she's hooked and she's stealing all my cds.  just to clarify, at the
beginning i said i was a hs sophmore in 1992, i haven't been in hs that whole
time, i went to community college, and now i'm transfering.

thanks for listening (reading actually)

abby =o)

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hey, ya'll
i'm looking for two or three seattle tickets.  if anyone has any leads
please respond by tomorrow night (tuesday night).  if i find two or three,
i may then have three tickets for the jacksonville, oregon concert 7/7/97
out under the beautiful stars and forest -)    <-- that's a cyber cyclops
(sp?) .

thanks!

seona
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ok, i guess its my turn...it was the beginning of senior year of high school
(september 1995) and i was driving with my friend jenny.  jenny was always
sticking different tapes in the tape deck with the promise "don't worry,
you'll like it".  it started with the smiths, which was good but i didn't
fall in love with it.  then one day she put in indigo girls. we listened to
it and i thought it was good but i didn't fall in love with it.  for some
reason prince of darkness stuck in my head and i was like "play that song
with the 'sun' and the 'darkness' again".  eventually we listened to the
tape enough that i fell in love with it.  my other friend had rop so i
borrowed that and listened to it over and over and made a copy for the car.
i fell in love with three hits right away.  then i borrowed so and at this
point i knew i was in love. i went out and bought ig, rop, so, nis, sf, 1200
curfews and 4.5 in that order.  i am now a bigger fan than any of my
friends.  my friends tease me and say i'm sick and its an obsession (and i
smile and say "yeah, so!?!?) i sometimes refer to my car as the indigo girls
car because every tape in the tape holders is ig (all the cds on tape). the
way the music affects me is almost impossible to describe.  i had never
before known what it was like to love music and love a certain group before
i was exposed to the ig.  they gave me an appreciation for music, lyrics and
the power of voice and instruments for which i will forever be indebted to
them. basically, they rock my world!!!-dave

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where was i- i think i was in my bedroom and my dear sweet cousin emily
who's on the list played for me indigo girls and swamp ophelia, it was
faboo.  so the indigo girls were coming to st. lou, that was the last
time too, in 94--so i got tickets took my cousin and a friend to the
show and fell in absolute love with their music...then i got all the
cd's etcetera and so forth--they are such a wonderful duo, i do love
their music so...that's all, tricia

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just going by what my friend said is all id have thought out mag. and 99x
would know but i do hope ladies are going to it as id like someone to boot
the murmurs for me

on mon, 23 jun 1997, kathleen shewmaker wrote:

> i doubt that the 'girls' as you (mark anthony...by the way, do you know of
> any egyptian princesses?)  refer to them as ( i personally like the 'blue
> chicks') will be playing at the womyn's music festival in michigan, as they
>  will be touring with the lilith fair at that time.  though i could be wrong,
> but doubtful.
>

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i apologize for the nigc--but stacey could you get in touch woth me
please, i have a question about the boots you are taping for me...
thank you, tricia

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anyway the native americans who sang with the girls if anhyone wants to
get some of their music - the girls let me know i know where u can get
some or hear some at least

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dear friends,

does anyone know if sots was released on vinyl, either here in the states
or elsewhere?  canada perhaps?  i'm trying to get a copy in the next few
days, so any info (including that it is not on vinyl) would be greatly
appreciated!

caroline

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subject:      nigc - question about ig on vh1 hard rock - atlanta

     hey ya'll.  does anyone out there in listland know when ig will be vh1's
hard rock live?  i think it was on this list that i read that they will be on
6/24.  i'll apologize now for the waste of bandwidth if this has already been
asked & answered.
     also, i need some info from the atlanta listees.  i will be up in
atlanta for the 4th of july weekend and am interested in finding out what fun
"queer" things will be going on then.  thanks for your help :)

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check out http://www.lilithfair.com
it is the official website of lilith fair. it's got a lot of cool stuff,
including newsgroups!

khw

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geez, i'm feeling pretty old compared to the folks who first heard the girls
when they were in 5th grade!  i was listening to the monkees and the
partridge family at that age (c'mon, fess up, i know there's other '70s
teeny-boppers out there!).

in 1989, i was working as the publicist for a concert promoter who was doing
an outdoor series in manchester nh.  one of the acts he was booking was neil
young, and he was negotiating to get this "great" opening act, the indigo
girls.  i had never heard of them but he told me to check out their album,
that they were going to be really big.  well, i did check out the album and i
loved it ... stopped listening to anything else and spent hours figuring out
which voice was emily's and which one was amy's and where they switched
verses and parts.  somebody else ended up opening for neil young, but we did
get the girls the next year as openers for joan baez.  i got to hang out
offstage for their sound check and sat in the 4th row center for the concert.
"and that was just the beginning ... of the rest of my life."

heidi

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hello,

i just wanted to ask you to please stop im'ing me and talking to me..i don't
have the time to talk to you anyways since time is prescious. i will not be
cruel and tell everyone what you did to me because im not like that i am more
mature. i should have never mentioned my book and just kept it to myself and
you would have never bothered me..thanks again,,please please no more im's or
emailsmelissa

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anyone in the area of davenport, ia want to go to the mary chapin
carpenter concert with me on wed. june 25 (tomorrow)?  i have
an extra ticket (very good seat) and i don't have anyone to use it.
let me know and maybe i can meet one of you for this show.
otherwise, it'll be me by my lonesome and i'll have to pick someone
up.  yikes!  :)

lisa
lschreihart@juno.com

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ndygotiggr,

i have received a copy of the letter that you are circulating about
yougfemme. i believe it to be mean-spirited, in violation of tos and possibly
libelous. if you continue to make her life difficult online, i will pursue
the matter with aol.

thank you.

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hey, as i was reading through the list today listening to _bringing it all
back home_ (hey, an album similar to soy, in that dylan broke away from his
folk roots.. but in a bigger way ;-), and someone quoted dylan.  well, i
figured a lot of people would like dylan if they like the girls.  anyways, i
was just wondering if i'm right.  i'd have to say that dylan's lyrics are the
best that i know of.  i guess he doesn't do really great on the deep
emotional stuff... and, of course, people keep telling me he can't sing
::shrug:: "i ain't gonna' work on maggie's farm no mo'!", sounds fine to me.
anyways... i had a point to this... um... how big of an influence was dylan
on the girls?  anyone have any quotes or anything.  er... wait... ya, the
liner notes to 1200 curfews doesn't say much.  hey, emily says that the girl
who played the violin in that song played with dylan, is she the one in
"hurricane"?  i love that violin".  hey!  it is.  i checked the liner notes
to dylan's greatest 3.  how cool.  ya.... so anyone agree with me that
dylan's lyrics are the greatest?  has anyone had a greater influence on
american music?  hmmm...?

the sfc

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as i was just reading my way through the new round of the "where where you"
posts (which i love, i'm listening to cd101, a local radio station in
columbus, oh and i hear "hi, this is amy, and i'm emily.  we're the ig."
then soy comes on.  too much.
happy day,
lisa


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seriously, it's only life afterall." --emily saliers

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exactly what is this all about????????????
enquiring ( ok..i admit it..nosey!!!) minds want to know
> i just wanted to ask you to please stop im'ing me and talking to me..i don't
> have the time to talk to you anyways since time is prescious. i will not be
> cruel and tell everyone what you did to me because im not like that i am more
> mature. i should have never mentioned my book and just kept it to myself and
> you would have never bothered me..thanks again,,please please no more im's or
> emailsmelissa
>

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i had always read/heard that a picked the word "indigo" out of the
dictionary herself.
lisa

>chickensoprano <creechal@aslan.emu.edu>
>at 08:30 pm 6/23/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>on mon, 23 jun 1997, joni wrote:
>>
>>> so, i've been meaning to ask...where did they come up the the name "indigo
>>> girls?"
>>
>>from their manager, rodney carper.  when he first met the "girls",
>>they both happened to be wearing dark blue shirts.  with plain names
>>like amy ray and emily saliers, he couldn't remember what they were
>>called.  so, he just kept refering to them as the "indigo girls", and
>>it stuck.  (side note - amy was kinda pissed about it at first since
>>she really wanted the name "chartruce girls")
>>
>>;)
>>anna
>


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waa! please stop pestering me, like, i'm an emotionally insecure person who
decided to let 2000 people know i was writing a book about amy ray, and i
*asked* for information (probably gossip) and now i can't deal with the criticism,
dont you all know it is not nice to criticise what you do not understand,
and like, amy is a goddess. why are you bothering me, i only was looking for
information -- not to have to prove i was a legitimate writer before i
received the information.

get a clue, get a life and get used to much more scrutiny than this list put you
through if you plan on being any type of professional writer, too bad your
lesson had to be learned on a list where the people are *far more* willing
to help than most places on the net.

mike r.

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the first time i recollect hearing the indigo girls was at this very
college to which i now attend.  i was attending a school in alabama not
too far from here, and came back to west ga. for a party and ended up
seeing some of the concert. it was great then, and it is still just as
great,tremendous, etc... now. i can't remember a lot of the stuff due to
the highly  partied state i was in, but i do remember them and their
music, to which i then started buying and going to see them whenever i
could.
---bjs

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it was 1989.  i had just finished my first year of college and was working
at a radio station and met a guy who changed my life in so many ways.  yhe
was 26 and i was 18, and he was philosophical, witty, a little redneck-y,
and pretty liberal all in one shell.  he used to come visit me on the
overnight shift after the bars closed, and i would sit there, bordering on
the threshold of womanhood, wanting to be "grown-up", and in retrospect,
not having a clue was "grown-up" was yet, and just listen to him.

ihad a boyfriend.  a really doozy of an unhealthy relationship.  and gary
was probably the epitome of what i should have had.  :) ("and there's
always retrospect......")  amyray, one friday afternoon, i cut ll my
classes, and went to help him wallpaper and apint his new efficency
apartment.  it was one of those october days when the leaves are just
starting to turn and the sun makes it look like july, but it is only about
60 degrees.  we had the windows of his apartment open, we were drinking
nasty-ass budweiser (as a grown-up now, i have more disserning tastes) and
we had the stereo going as we ripped and painted and laughed and talked.
then he turns to me and says "you have to hear this cd i found in the
"play it, say it" bin.  (that's the cd bin where demo's were tossed.  i
worked at an oldies station,a nd got a lot of tapes and cd's that way.
they were free for the taking).  so he goes over, puts it in, and plays
"closer to fine."  i remember sitting on his old couch, covered with paint
and dust, and hearing amy go "wooo" during the second chorus, and thinking
to myself "who is motley crue?"  and as i sat there, wrapped up in a world
of music that was so new and so incredibly overpowering, gary leaned over
and kissed me.
i crossed the threshold of womanhood that day.  i went from being a little
girl who thought she was, and wished she was, so "grown-up" to being that
way.  as i left his apartment at 7 that night, i detoured to record town,
searched for the indigo girls, and came up with "strange fire."  i put the
tape in, turned it up, and was overcome by amy and emily.  and the first
words of sf rang clearly in my head "i come to you a strange fire..i make
an offering of love...."

peace y'all-
love-
karrie

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>i had always read/heard that a picked the word "indigo" out of the
>dictionary herself.
i think you need to take your irony supplements.

e.g., that post was a joke!!
kirsten

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ok.  i guess i'll come out of lurking for this.   i've never commented on
anything i've read here since joining the list a couple of months ago, but
i couldn't pass this one up.  i was over my  friends townhouse in 1989.  we
were flipping threw the channels, when we stopped on mtv.  there were these
2 cool gals singing this great acoustic song!  we were mesmerized!  who are
they we kept saying?  at the end of this 'fine' (closer to fine) tune they
told us -  indigo girls.  since we lived in houston at the time and had no
chance of ever hearing them on the radio,  we made a mental note.  shortly
thereafter, we were in a record store, she came up and said "look here's
those cool girls we saw on mtv."  so we bought it and off we went cruisin
and listening.  we thought it was really great, but really began to
appreciate it  that summer on our road trip to colorado.  there we became
lost in the soul of their music as we cruised in the mountains.  we
couldn't wait for more.  then a couple of years later we were in durango
colorado, on another road trip, and heard southland in the spring time on a
college radio station.  we were so excited they had a new album.  after
that we were really into them.  it was fun learning the difference between
their voices and styles, who was who,  yet fascinated by the bone chilling
harmonies they  produced together.  the first time we finally got to see
them in concert, we were so nervous & excited, we drank too much and had to
go to a ticket scalper to see them again, in san antonio the next night, to
really absorb it.  sue and i were just getting to know each other back then
& have been together ever since we first heard them.  the girls have been a
big part of our lives.  we have seen them about 16 times, including the
honor the earth tour in sante fe and denver.  we have also had the honor of
meeting them a few times.  we live in austin now, but will be traveling to
see them whenever possible.  words can never express the feeling of seeing
them live.  i can't really think of any other musical act i can remember
the 'first time'.

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question for the list:

        if you could walk out on stage during an ig show and
        start a jam on some cover song, what would it be and
        how would the experience go?

why do i ask?  well...

i've got the replacements "pleased to meet me" disc in at the moment
and just drifted back to reality from zoning out for a bit (gotta be
the sleep).  anyway, during the time i was "away" i had this daydream
that i walked out on stage -- i must have been paul westerberg -- and
started playing the opening riff to "alex chilton." immediately the
whole stage erupts.  amy (a huge fan of the replacements) recoginzes
the first note and jams electric.  emily lays down the decorative
accoustic line and the bridge.  even jerry and sara are there doing
their thing.  amy does the lead singing in her patented intense
manner, with me and em making up the harmonies as we go.

its weird, i'm not one for indigo dreams. nor can i play a guitar (or
for that matter sing well). but somehow this works.  amy would be
great at covering westerberg's voice and its got that very high energy
feel that ig tend to like in their covers....  *shrug*

                        back to reality for now,

                                chris

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hey everyone,
hope your day is beautiful. i like this thread,too. there seems to be
some kind of power that ig bring to lives - so many have said, "yeah,
when i finally listened, i got hooked". and it is interesting that a lot
of you heard them at camp....although it is perfect camp music, eh?

me, i was watching mtv or vh1 back in about 88 or 89. i saw the ctf
video. amazing, i thought. so i promptly went out and bought ig and the
re-release of sf. the rest is in the archives, been a fan ever since.
this period of time was pivotal for me.....i started writing songs in
early 88, heard ig, and heard melissa etheridge all in the same year's
time. whew! :-) talk about inspiration for my songwriting career! and
people to look up to!

not only was this creative inspiration, but ig have this quality in
their music that just seems to reach right in and grasp your soul. it is
so deep and so poetic. and they don't need complex instrumentation, they
can easily stand on their on 2 feet (er...guitars?).

i was so inspired. i played a lot with a good friend, i wanted to be a
duo like ig. but, alas, my friend was more interested in getting married
and having kids. still, though, i will always credit them with much of
the inspiration and motivation that have kept me going in the music biz.
they make it so pure. i am constantly amazed at the deep thoughts in the
lyrics. the songs become part of you.

ig may never be the queens of top 40 (thank god), but the ig fans are
special. the way the singing rings out at a concert is one of the most
beautiful things. i think that is a wonderful way to pay back a & e for
their songs. it is quite the compliment to a songwriter when the
audience sings along, and this is raised to the nth degree at an ig
show.

peace and flowers to you all,
suzanne glass
http://www.geocities.com/~suzanneglass

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hi again,
(are you guys beginning to notice i go on posting frenzies?!!?) just my
.02 on the book thing:
now, this is a free country, you can write about anything you want, but
i sure wouldn't want to be the one to p*ss amy ray off like that! i'm
sure the would-be writer is trying to somehow "pay homage" (i look for
the good in people, i won't even entertain the idea that she was
interested in making money from us....the ig faithful), but man, amy
already hurts enough. she is private in a life that doesn't easily allow
privacy. amy tries to open up, (ie the atlanta mag article and letter),
and she gets burned. she will stop completely if pushed too far.

to the writer: hey, i don't take what you are doing personally, but this
was the wrong place to ask about it. and yes, as a writer you will get
slammed way more than this in a long career.follow your heart, we all
must, but don't be too hurt if the fans don't appreciate it. they are
fiercely protective.
just my opinion...
suzanne

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hmmmm... no.. there's sommat wrong with that.. where was i! ..cos it
doesn't seem to matter where i am these days.. ig comes with me ..in fact
even moving between labs ..the first priority is to move the tape-player
(waiting of course for a suitable gap between songs to move in..)

okokok.. so where was i .. actually sitting in my room having forked out a
brave 15 pounds on 4.5 album ..having heard rumours on the melissa
etheridge list that they might be worth a listen.. i was just setting the
cd to tape and about to wander out.. when joking started.. and that was it
.. i was spellbound!!! ..and then sickened.. this was only the middle of
last year.. how could it take me soooo long to discover such a talent!!
doh! well.. i've not looked back since.. now just sitting here waiting for
them to decide the uk might just be worth a visit again.. in the meantime
its inspired me to pick up my guitar again.. and now i'm happily spreading
the word.. and its indigo.. to everyone that hears me!!! la la la!!

take care all..
jules.

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this is just a quickie.. and my apologies for waste of bandwidth.. but
has anyone heard of the band "horse" ..know any good sites for info about
them and in particular a source of tabs?

ok.. over and out.. many thanks!
j.

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quick note to say i'm signing off for a few weeks while i go on my great
american dream holiday.

if anyone else fancies meeting up in ny (26-29/6), boston (20/6, 1/7, 6/7),
p'town (2-5/7), or atlanta (7-10/7),  i'd love to meet some friendly faces,
so please email me on our home account - erika@cybergal.com - by the end of
tomorrow... and if anyone happens to be going to the open mic night at
eddie's on july 7th then watch out for me and erika - i think we'll be
playing, and we could do with some moral support!

later y'all!

seffy  :)

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at 08:41 am 6/24/97 -0400, yougfemme wrote:

        "please stop bothering me" ....

        this was my initial reaction of what ar would say about an
unauthorized biography being written about her :o

i       tony, da chickenman - houston, texas, usa       g
n                                                       i
d       not content to bow and bend to the whims        r
i       of culture that swoop like vultures eating      l
g       us away to our extinction -  emily saliers      s
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i have 4 seats to the woodlands, june 25th.   section right - row d.  this
is actually the 9th row from the stage.  let me know if anyone is
interested.

linda

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well, it's been fun reading all your posts these past few months, but now i
must sign off and go to camp (i'm not complaing :) although i'm hoping that
people at camp will be as ig obsessed as me) so have a good summer everybody.
anna

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ok, sorry for the desperate plea, but i am eager to find someone who has
extra tickets to any show in seattle, wa.  nobody's responded to my first
post, probably cuz i was very unclear as to what i wanted...

so, i am looking for any person who has two or three tickets to the
seattle shows and are willing to sell them to my friend in seattle.  if i
do find tickets, then i will have two or three extra tickets for the
jacksonville, oregon concert to sell.  hope that's clearer than the last.

also, i heard that seattle was all sold out for all three shows.  is that
true, or have they in fact not began selling their third concert tickets?

i wish i personally could go to the seattle shows, cuz you know that the
possibility of running into them at some hip club, or on the street, or in
some restaurant...or sight seeing...ooohhh, i wanna go there!

hope someone can help me out.

seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu

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well, i am a long time dylan fan. just listening to the songs on blood
on the tracks, one must realize what a great lyricist dylan is.

dylan most definitely had a huge impact on music. he was really the
first person to take what was traditionally thought of as "folk" music,
that is music with socially and politically relevant lyrics (as opposed
to the "ooh baby, baby yea" type of lyric) and popularize it and
electrify it (a huge scandal when dylan went electric, at least to the
folkie crowd). even though the beatles were immensely popular and also
had a huge impact on music, they did not at first have songs with any
meaningful, political or socially concious lyrics. not until dylan came
around.

but there were others around the same time dylan was coming up. there
was joni mitchell and joan baez and richie havens. but i think dylan was
really the first and the most influential, if only because of his
immense popularity during the late 60s and through the 70s.

for my money the best lyricists in music would be:

bob dylan
joni mitchell
amy ray
emily saliers
joan baez

peace,

dan perkins
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bassist/singer/songwriter

"i am a lonely road and i am traveling
looking for the key to set me free."
               -joni mitchell

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yeah.  i love dylan.  i listened to him way before the girls.  it's kind of
cool, because i have heard most, if not all of his songs.  then like every
once in a while, the girls will pick one up and play it.  _all along the
watchtower_ was one of my favorite dylan songs, now, i'm in love with it.
neil young was also a great influence on amy i think.  i got into him
through crosby, stills, nash, and young.  saw them in concert w/out young,
very disappointing. anyway, they really did a great job with _down by the
river_.  i have both versions, the girls and youngs, and i prefer the girls.
anyway, that's my thought for the day....
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"don't critisize what you can't understand."  b.dylan
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greetings from new mexico!
here in albuquerque we have an independent, free paper called "women's
voices".  a friend of mine writes for the paper and has been able to get a
phone interview with amy ray this thursday.  we are all so psyched!  ig will
be the cover story for the august issue of wv.

she, my friend, will approach the interview and story from the angle of ig
being sort of "women's voices" themselves.  not just women with voices of
course, but our voices, they seem to say so eloquently what we wish we could
find the words for.

emily could not be available for the interview-- we'll take what we can get.
what more could we ask for?  we're so proud!  anyway, i'll be forwarding
details about the interview and story.  if anyone would like a copy of our
women's voices, please contact me privately.

folkisgruven (i love that! hope you don't mind if i borrow it)
kath

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hi everyone!!  you all are ss beautiful.  i just signed on the list
yesterday, and was greeted with so much love today!!  actually, we
together are all so beautiful.  and i can;t wait to see my first show in
la on the 2nd.  i've been listening to the girls for a long time now and
i presently live in las vegas-   i would love to hop on the road with the
girls for all the shows coming up this mext month, but school causes
restraints, so i am looking for some la tix-  are there any out there?  i
am heading up to the show anyways-  hopefully will try to trade some hemp
jewelry and love at the show, maybe some pretty dresses----- that's what i
got girls-  can anyone help
out- or can you tell me what to expect at the show besides harmony and
beauty?  do you think
i'll be able to find some tix?  for a few of us-   with all our love~!!

                           smiles, hugs, and kisses-
                                   stay kind-
                           amanda urban cazin
                  cazin@nevada.edu

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you guy's are the coolest!! i haven't even heard from everybody yet, and
already we are up to 550 hours for emily's birthday!!! i am so excited! we
have people from all over the states, and a few from the philippines and
australia. i have also received cool suggestions for relevant lyrics, and
the certificate (more like a poster really) is being developed in the room
next to me as i type. trying to incorporate themes of indigo, time, music,
world, help, etc. into the graphics.

what is a little odd is that only two men have volunteered to be part of
the project so far (if you can count my 7 year old as a man. he put in 5
hours. the other is jay wiley). the rest of the 30+ are all women. hmmm. i
thought men liked the ig too. :)

all the rest of you who haven't responded, hurry hurry! we got to get this
thing done soon. besides, i can't stand the suspense anymore!

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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hi there all,

could anyone please help me?? i wish to set my list to digest..since it
is now set to bounce..not that i don't enjoy reading you but i would
like to get all of you at once and not in little pieces...
so, can anyone help me??


bye, yvonne

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geez, its been so long....i think the first time i heard the igs was
on mtv (believe it or not), the closer to fine video.  it was
probably around 1989 (the year they hit it big apparently).  i was
not especially impressed with the video, but i couldn't get the song
out of my head.  i've been in love with their music ever since.  i
fell in love with emily at the first concert of their's i saw during
the swamp ophelia tour.  there was no backing band for this show, so
it was just amy and emily and their acoustic guitars.  emily was
singing her part in reunion and she hit a note that was so clear and
so perfect that at that moment i knew god was in heaven and all was
right with the world.  everything good that ever was or ever would be
was squeezed down and compressed into that one perfect moment.
needless to say, i'll be a fan forever.

mark

"she said me and jesus, we got the same heart, the only thing that
keeps us distant is that i keep fuckin' up" - a.r.

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well children, gather 'round...
the very very very very first time i ever heard ig was, ummm..., whenever
least complicated was released.  i was going through an obsessed vh1
listening stage waiting for any annie lennox video to come on (wow, really
do love her...) and they kept playing lc over and over again.  now, this
would usually irratate me (i can't stand the site of sherl crow much anymore
because of that stupid music channel) but i started liking the song more and
more.  and then i saw them on vh1 petting walrus's or something and i
thought, wow, i want to look like that blond chick when i grow up (i was
fairly young(er), but i still want to grow up to be like her).
i memorized most of that song, but then they stopped playing it.  so i kinda
forgot about them untill......

about five months ago my friend (which is anita, ironically, if any of you
read my last post..) made me borrow so. wow-weeee.  man.  i thought sarah
mclaughlan was good (and she is).  the indigo girls are, well, they just say
everything i can't put to words.  i try to think of which one i'm most like,
but it's both.  sometimes i could just listen to caramia (when i still had
my cd) and just know exactly what it was about without really understanding
it.  does anyone know what i mean?

does anyone think that maybe, that caramia song is really about amy ray?
because when i listen(ed) to it, it reminded me of every real friendship i
have and how codependant i can be.  it sounds like a codependant friendship
song to me anyway.
okay, enough babbling.

love me(angie)
idon'tneedawittyquotebecausemylifeisone!

ps- be gentle, this only my second post.

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i have received several emails asking for details about the gift of time
project, so i am re-posting my original post. those of you who have read
this before, excuse pliz.  all hours are due by the end of july at the
latest!!

**************************************
some of you may already have heard about my idea for emily's birthday
present. for those of you who have not, here is a description.

i would like to inform list members of a project that is currently underway
to provide a "gift of time" for emily's birthday. when i initiated the
project, i suggested that people chose a local organization that appealed
to them and volunteer what little precious time they have as a present to
emily.  this idea may be worthwhile for those who are in tight situations
financially, or others who feel as i do about all the checks they have
written for organizations when their hearts tell them "you need to do more
than this". it is also in-keeping with what i have read the girls say over
and over about volunteering at a grass-roots level. in the article about
chiapas on their official web-site (www.indigogirls.com) amy talked about
how she wanted to make a difference in her own community. i would urge you
all to think of small things you can do in your own community.

by choosing a local organization, not only do you affect the community in
which you live, and where your children grow, but you also spread
"goodness" in various little corners of the world. in my experience,
volunteering brings as much to the volunteer as s/he gives. it is an
enriching experience for many. this is a good time for some of us to be
doing something we may have wanted to anyway. emily's b'day is as good a
reason as any other.

i am suggesting this not only because i think volunteering is a good thing
to do, but also because i would hate for those who don't have much money
right now to feel that they had nothing to contribute to emily's present.
but of course you could do this in addition to donating money to the
billings house project.

some things that may keep you from volunteering:
1. i don't have the time!
rebuttal:       do you have *one* hour sometime in the next month or two?

2. isn't it going to look silly if i have to hand em a deal that says i
contributed one puny hour for her birthday?!
answer: it's not going to happen. i plan to make a certificate for her that
says "together, the members of the ig list contributed 500 hours on your
behalf ." your name will be listed on the certificate along with the names
of others, and we know em is going to hang this certificate up on her
bedroom wall :)

3. what sorts of volunteering count? i don't want to join an organization
and do it for the rest of my life!
answer: if you think about it creatively, a lot of things count. i am going
to be helping my son's class make "rice babies" (bunch of rice bound in a
sock and they draw faces on it) for mother's day as part of my work. i am
organizing and running two booths at a local parade to raise money for area
charities. one of the other volunteers works in a feminist bookstore.
others are helping friends caught up in natural disasters. one-time deals
count as do long-term commitments. if you are interested in more ideas,
e-mail me privately and i shall come up with a list of small but sweet
things you can do. or email me with your small but sweet idea.

4. who *cares* about all of this???!!!!
answer  :       apparently amy and emily do care about this. very much.

please join us in this effort, even if you can contribute only one hour. an
hour each from every person who reads this may add up to a lot. if you just
can't bring yourself to do it, try to rope a friend into doing it. convert
somebody else :) . e-mails of volunteer offers accepted gratefully at the
address below:

update: we are now up to 600 hours, all contributed by 12 members! imagine
what 20 more members could do!

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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sorry for the multiple posts but:

i have one ticket to the dallas show for this saturday. it is in the front
section, amy's side, row s, and something like either 27, 28 or 29. they
are decent seats. i paid $31 for them, texas tickets is charging $125 for
similar seats. and you will sit next to us, so no weird people who talk
through the show. but: i am planning to boot the show so i would prefer a
non-yeller :) .

please email me if interested. i could sell it the day of the concert, but
i would like a true fan to have an opportunity first.

also, would someone like to volunteer to organize a pre-show list
gathering? i would, but i have too much going on what with the gift of time
and leaving the country soon.

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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hey, kathy kuzniar,

i'm looking forward to hearing the "women's voices" interview with amy!

...and for what it's worth to everyone, i have no plan to write a book about her.

;v)

-d@ve

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1988? sitting on my couch. watching mtv. i'm sure it was mtv because vh1
didn't exist yet. video comes on. two girls. really cute. strumming.
strolling. singing. instantly mesmerized.

next day i hear the dj says they're coming to town. playing in a little
rat hole in miami. i call up some friends. say we gotta go. say you're
not going to believe these two.

my friends are idiots, so based on me hearing ctf once, we go. we get
there at nine. it's a hole in the wall bar. at 10, we gotta sit through
almost an hour of a girl playing led zeppelin covers acoustically. worst
thing i ever heard. sat through another opener - the very negligibly
talented vesper sparrow. for those that know who she is, mary karlzen
played bass in the band and shared lead vocal duties.

by now it's after 1:00 a.m. we're antsy. we're freezing. the watered
down drinks are a fortune. we gotta get up and work the next day. my
friends are threatening to kill me if the ig suck. i'm thinking i'm
screwed. i mean, i only heard one song once, for pete's sake.

instead, my friends end up nominating me for sainthood.

amy

p.s. who the hell is this pete fella whose sake we're always worrying
about?

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i'm a major dylan fan.  his lyrics are great-- he has a way of turning a
phrase just like amy and emily.  they've covered "watchtower" and "tangled
up in blue", so it seems like he's had some influence on them.  scarlet
rivera, the violinist on 1200 curfews did play on dylan's desire album and
was on his rolling thunder tour, i believe.  the amazing thing about dylan
is that he rarely plays a song the same way twice.  his arrangements are
always different and he changes lyrics or rewrites verses.  an example would
be tangled up when he sometimes starts it is 3rd person (i.e. early one
morining the sun was shining, he was laying in bed) and later in the song
goes to 1st person (she was working in a topless place and i stopped in for
a beer). he makes the story into a sort of love triangle.  anyway, there's a
lot to say about his bob-ness, and i'd like to hear what other ig fans
think.  feel free to e-mail me privately to discuss dylan further.  peace, al
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from: elizabeth nolf
subject: ig at camp
whoever said it was right - everyone seems to have heard ig first at
camp! as a foreigner (aussie chick) i have always been curious about the
alleged american practice of sending their children away for weeks and
weeks and i always thought it would be horrible, lonely, if you weren't
cool you'd be the most miserable person alive and you would dread it etc
etc (you can guess i'm not anywhere near "cool"!) but it seems like it
was a really nice place with lots of singing and anything that
introduces you to ig in the 4th grade has to be the coolest - imagine
that, i would have been set for life. i had to wait until i was 19.

cheers

elizabeth

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sorry for the nigc, but michelle malone was so amazing last night at the
fez in nyc, that i had to post my little review.  first of all, here's the
set list, as it's listed on mm's set list (which i'll explain about
later)...she shortened some song titles, & before #'s 4, 6, 7, & 8, stuff
is crossed out.

1. den of danger
2. all i can give you
3. green
4. all my lifetime
5. magdalene
6. learn to cry
7. my green thumb
8. famiglia
9. edge
10. grace
11. blue suede
12. hollow day
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wild horses / biscuit

michelle seemed so incredibly into the music, & she didn't really seem
tired, like she did at pride.  (well, at the end, she seemed a little
tired, but that's to be expected after playing 14 songs. :)  i asked a
waitress if i could take pictures, & she told me that was fine as long as i
went to the back of the room.  i didn't want to move from my front row,
dead center, seat, so i asked the cool listees i had met (jen bubka,
stacey, & their friends), & they took lots of pictures for me.  if they
come out well, i'll scan them in & put them on my webpage when i get back
to school.

the coolest part of the night came at the end.  at pride, i had asked
michelle to play butter biscuit, which i think is the cutest song ever.  i
loved it ever since i heard it when she opened up for ig at roseland last
summer.  she said she wasn't sure, but i should ask her again at the fez.
before the show, i didn't talk to her, b/c she seemed busy & i was feeling
shy.  audrey went to talk to her, & she said that she asked for bb, &
michelle said she should put a note up on stage to remind her to play it.
audrey wrote the note & put it up there, but i started to think she wasn't
going to play it.  then, after wild horses, michelle said something like,
"if you don't mind, i'm going to play one more song b/c it's andi's
birthday, & i heard she wanted to hear this song."  and she played bb...i
thought i was going to die from happiness!  it turned out that audrey had
asked her to play it for me, since my birthday is on wednesday.  it was
definitely the coolest thing that has happened to me in a long time.  then
after that, michelle was taking down her stuff, & i mentioned to julia (who
really should be a listee, but isn't, since she doesn't have e-mail) that i
wanted the set list.  so she said to michelle, "i have 2 requests...the
birthday girl would like the set list, & i would like a pick," & michelle
said that was fine.  so that's how i got the set list!  (the pick ended up
getting lost, so julia didn't get it...sad.)  after that, i went up to
michelle & thanked her for playing bb, & she shook my hand (her hand was
burning hot!) & wished me a happy birthday.  after that, we went to what
michelle called "the mall," the booth where they were selling stuff, & we
got to look at the new cd, which goes on sale july 15.  (btw, dar's new cd
goes on sale that day too!)  i asked leigh, michelle's gf, who was at the
booth, if bb was on the new album.  she said she thought it was a hidden
track, but then she asked michelle, who said it wasn't on there.  anyway,
they were both really nice to us, & we just hung around there for a while,
not really talking to them, & as we left, we said bye, & michelle called
out, "happy birthday!" to me.  i was floating!

i didn't see anyone booting the show, but if anyone ever comes across a
boot of it, i would offer up my firstborn in exchange for a copy, as
kirsten has done before.  also, if anyone has the lyrics to butter biscuit,
i would love a copy of them.  i kind of made up the ones i put in my sig.

okay, sorry this is so long, but it was very exciting for me, & i recommend
that everyone see mm if you have a chance.  and meeting & hanging out w/
listees is always fun...hi to jen, stacey, colleen, & audrey! :)

andi

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                                  andrea lipman
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      "the truth that people are missing about certain things, you know
     when they get fearful and they get hateful, and they repress other
     peoples, is the greatest truth of all, you know, the truth of love
    and understanding and clarity about all those issues."-emily saliers
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whoops, i meant to post w/ my new mm bb sig! :)

andi

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                                  andrea lipman
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          "a butter biscuit would be very nice do you like jelly or
        could improvise and oh oh then you can't go on.  a sure
      vacation could be very neat you'd better hurry before i fall
      off to sleep and oh oh then you can't go on."-michelle malone
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i called ticketmaster today and the tickets for the minneapolis stop on
the lf tour go on sale on friday 6/27 at 10:00am.  tickets are all general
admision and are $30.

i also found an article about the lilith fair tour in my newsweek that i
got today.  ig is mentioned, but sarah mclachlan, jewel and paula cole
have their photos included.  it was sorta amusing... the title is "quiet
grrls."


rachel
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hi everyone,

***********
ppv

i finally got around to watching the ppv the other day and guess what!
oh, you already know from the subject line,  i'm on it.  i'm very proud
of this.  during  get out the map, after the chorus, emily takes a step
back, and boom, there i am with my wife dancing away right in the middle
of the screen.

it is nice that is it was this song too, because it is my wife's new
second favorite song  -  some of you old timers may remember what her
favorite is : ).

two notes on things that you couldn't really see on the video.  i counted
eight broken strings by amy over the course of the night, three during
dgtgag alone.  at the end of the song, she broke another string, but kept
playing anyway,  the strings was flying all over the place and she cut
her finger on it.  you can see her showing emily the cut, and then the
guitar tech brought her out some cream and a bandade.

if your wondering where the patriots hat came from, pete carroll, the new
head coach of the patriots was at the show.  i saw him before the concert
got started and could see him during the show.  he looked like he was
having a great time.

****************
other things

i've been asked if there is a baby tour this year, and the answer
unfortuantely is that is going to be a very short one.  my daughter now
has a hard time sitting quietly through a whole concert. so the baby tour
will be only at newport this year.

speaking of my daughter, now 2,  as expected, she is turning in to a huge
indigo girls fan. she always recognizes them when she hears them, and
whenever we get into my car she says "play ndgogrlls daddy" right away.
i've been playing her the new album, and with the exception of shed your
skin,  she loves it.  she constantly asks us to sing the "ndgogrlls sun
song" which is get out the map, and can recite most of the chorus.

i'm very proud of her!  : )

*****************

as to where were you,  i first heard closer to fine in the summer of 1989
just after graduating from college.  i had just picked my now wife up at
the train station because she had been visiting a friend.  as we were
walking to the car, she was telling me that her friend was saying there
was this new song out that was exactly her life.  we got to the car and
turned it on just as closer to fine was starting.  we sat and listened to
the whole thing without saying a word, and when it was over, we both
instinctively reached for the rewind button, oblivious the fact that you
can't rewind the radio.  afterwards, robin said "that has to be the
song."


that's all i can think of for now,

  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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      washington (ap) - the government has renewed a warning that
dips, salads and some other products made in a new hampshire food
plant may be contaminated with bacteria that cause serious and even
fatal infections.
      the food and drug administration announced friday it was
reissuing a warning about hummus dips and salads produced by
cedar's mediterranean foods, inc. at the firm's plaistow, n.h.,
plant.
      the fda is renewing its initial warning from june 12 because
''the firm's recall efforts to date have not adequately removed all
potentially affected products from the market.''
      the agency said cedar's hummus dips and garden lentil and
tabbouleh salads are still being offered for sale in stores and
some retail dealers have not been notified by cedar of the recall.
      a person answering the phone at the plaistow company
headquarters on monday said there was no immediate comment.
      included in the recall are cedar's dips and salads marketed
under the brand names ''vita'' and ''mr. hummus.'' there are also
dips and salads in 8- and 16-ounce clear plastic packages under the
''cedar's'' label, and salsa dips, baba ghannouj and grape leave
products processed at the plaistow plant, the fda said.
      the plaistow plant also makes hummus and salads distributed in
canada under the ''sidon'' brand name. the fda is notifying
canadian health authorities.
      not included in the recall are cedar's baked products, such as
breads, muffins and tortillas, which are made at another plant, the
fda said.
      the recall was issued because of contamination by listeria
monocytogenes bacteria. these bacteria can cause serious infections
that can be fatal to the very young, the very old and people who
have weakened immune systems. symptoms include severe headache,
nausea, abdominal pain and diarrhea. pregnant women infected by
listeria can experience miscarriages or stillbirths.
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symptoms should see a doctor, the fda said. customers who have
purchased any of the recalled products were urged to return them to
the store for a refund.
      eds: consumers with questions on this recall and warning can
call the fda at 1-800-332-4010.
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back in the days when i was a resident assistant on campus, part of my
responsibilities were to enforce university rules and policies -- like quiet
hours. now quiet hours began at 8 pm during the week and there was a group
of women on my floor that would get together every evening after dinner to
strum and sing...and did they ever like to sing loud. :) so, i'd wander down
every evening a little before eight to let them know that quiet hours were
approaching. then i started to wander down at seven-thirty...then at
seven...then at six-thirty and by this time i had learned the words and the
harmonies and was joining in on the evening sing-a-longs.

needless to say, the "i" section of my alphabetized cd collection expanded
rapidly within weeks. :)

smiles and sunshine --
tamara :)

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subject:      re: please stop bothering me

rather than cat food, since i don't have cats, why don't we paint the ceiling
in dog food??  i think it would be most interesting to watch my two lapdogs
(miniature schnauzers!) try to scale the walls  :)

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)

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me cause i'm gay...."- e.saliers
"i said you know it's funny/i think we were on the same boat back in 1694" -
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"mothers tell your children/be quick you must be strong/life is full of
wonder/love is never wrong..." - m. etheridge
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hi all! ;-)

guess i'll have to "jump in" too... i have had such fun listening to
everyone's stories!

okay, no big deal... i'm driving home & listening to the radio...
flipping around until i hear (what i considered) a really cool tune!
mouth agape & in total amazement (for there aren't any radio stations in
lima oh that cool...) i really start getting into it & even singing
along.  okay, well being such a music lover i have to get this tape,
right?

and i didn't know who it was at all... i just kept hearing "closer i am
to fine" running over in my mind (yes, this was 1989 too folks)...
hoping & praying the record store employees will be able to help me
figure out who this was.  and i did score... i bought indigo girls the
next day and have been a faithful fan ever since!

side note here:  also that same year i was "snow-bound" up in lima and
unable to make a march indigo girls concert down here in columbus oh
(where i now reside, thank god)... imagine my depression over that one?
:(
well, in april i got a call from a friend attending a little college
down in mars hill, nc telling me she could get us tickets to the indigo
girls for a show in may... if i wanted (is she nuts, of course i did!)!
so, there i went... all alone 9 1/2 hour drive to get there... and to my
amazement she had bought the first 2 tickets front row center!!!!!!! :)
i was in total heaven!  an incredible show, making me an even bigger
fan!

wait... i'm not done, imagine those seats at your first ig show? (no,
i've not been as lucky since...)

anyway, my friend worked in the college's office (that's how she got
those great tickets) and it so happened that she knew a lot of the
people who were working security at the show! (think you know where i'm
going here, huh?)  yes, she wasn't interested herself, but got me a
backstage pass from one of those nice folks and i actually got to meet,
talk to, & get an autograph from our own sweet emily! :)  sadly, i
didn't get to meet amy... she didn't come down & emily apologized and
explained that she could only spend a few minutes with us (yet made sure
to speak to everyone & sign something for everyone too)... she said they
were heading back to atlanta shortly to sing at a friend's wedding the
following day!

okay, so i'm hoping the first concert story helps make up for the not so
"unique" story of where i was when i first heard the girls! :)
so now i am just hoping to get such wonderful seats again one day... i'm
getting closer cause i got lower pavillion (on the amy side) at the
polaris show coming up in august!  best i've had for the girls since
that very first show!  hope to meet some of you out there!

okay that's about it!  couldn't resist after reading everyone's posts!

see ya,
    twink!  (bridget)

   *******
    amy:  "i'm always kickin' things over!"
    emily:  "you're so rowdy!"
    amy:  "sprawlin'... flailin'..."
   *******

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at 02:16 am 6/21/97 -0400, j tigger kickliter wrote:
> in a message dated 97-06-20 21:54:25 edt, yougfemme@aol.com writes:
>
> << i am currently writing a book on amy ray and have been gathering research
>to
>  make it as long as i can..i have written and published before but this is
>my
>  first time writing something in this area. i am looking for any other
>  resources people may have to help me to accomplish this goal..this may
>  include leads to interview people.. i appreciate your help..thanks again
>  melissa >>
>
> i dont know if this is covered in the faq or the list rules, but can i just
>say that i really feel like this kind of thing ought not to be on the list?
> it is not approved by amy - melissa told me this herself - so should we
>really participate in something like this?
>
> there is more information on this that i really dont want to post, if anyone
>wants to know the biggest reasons for my deepest concerns about this please
>email me privately.  i can guarantee you, you will feel the same way i do.
>
> peace, harmony & indigo,
>
> ~~tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> emily:  we call ourselves amy ray.  we'll be here all night.
> amy:  that's right.  amy ray.
> emily: i'm amy, she's ray.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
>---------------------
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>subj:    re: manuscipt/book on amy ray progress/upsdate
>date:    97-06-21 02:07:23 edt
>from:    ndygotiggr
>to:      lizard328
>
>in a message dated 97-06-20 21:54:25 edt, yougfemme@aol.com writes:
>
><< i am currently writing a book on amy ray and have been gathering research
>to
> make it as long as i can..i have written and published before but this is my
> first time writing something in this area. i am looking for any other
> resources people may have to help me to accomplish this goal..this may
> include leads to interview people.. i appreciate your help..thanks again
> melissa >>
>
>i dont know if this is covered in the faq or the list rules, but can i just
>say that i really feel like this kind of thing ought not to be on the list?
> it is not approved by amy - melissa told me this herself - so should we
>really participate in something like this?
>
>there is more information on this that i really dont want to post, if anyone
>wants to know the biggest reasons for my deepest concerns about this please
>email me privately.  i can guarantee you, you will feel the same way i do.
>
>peace, harmony & indigo,
>
>~~tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>emily:  we call ourselves amy ray.  we'll be here all night.
>amy:  that's right.  amy ray.
>emily: i'm amy, she's ray.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
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uhoh.....what happened?

thanks,
rick and lynette
...but nobody gets a lifetime rehersal     (e. sailers, "love's recovery")

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subject:      everything in its own chord?

remember..i don't know nuthin' bout nuthin'. so maybe after i work on this
for awhile (the next ten years oughta do it), i will post the entire song.
for now, this is all i have!

the beginning:

d(something):  002302

then it seems to shift to:

020302

after that, i get lost. i think the tuning is off a bit. i think the low e
*might* possibly been turned down to d. ida know.  hope this sparks some
practicing!

-liz-

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where was i when i first heard our beloved girls?  i was on the road to
austin....ok not really.

let's see, i was at a new year's eve party and this girl was playing her
guitar and asked if anyone had any ig requests.  the only song i knew to
request was power of two which i loved from the bots soundtrack.  well, she
did not sing that but sang ctf instead.  what i remember most is how she
introduced the song.  she said, "if you don't love this song, than you're
not a lesbian".  (we were at a women's bar!)  well, i loved it and felt
like the song perfectly described my life.

so, i started buying the cd's, caught the disney concert and started
falling more and more in love.

flash forward to a few months ago--i had just moved to a new town and
finally purchased the 1200c cd.  the obsession began.  just a couple weeks
after i bought 1200c, i saw ig in concert-just the two of them.  i will
never be the same.

i had really been struggling with all kinds of coming out issues and at
that concert, amy and emily spoke straight to my heart.  i was amazed at
how poetically and beautifully they expressed the feelings i had been
burying deep within myself for so many years.

that's it--thanks for listening.

jennifer

ps-this is my first posting---this is too cool!

it's alright if you hate that way
hate me 'cos i'm different hate me 'cos i'm gay.
truth of the matter come around one day
and it's alright.

~emily saliers

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hey everyone,

boy, i haven't posted this much in a long time.
(which reminds me, i *still* haven't posted my
thoughts on sots yet, even though i've been
meaning to for a month or more.  maybe tomorrow.)

anyway, let me see.  i first heard "closer to fine"
on (commercial) radio here in sydney back in 1989.
i got "indigo girls" on tape and spent months
driving myself nuts trying to figure out all the
words and who was singing what.  after that i spent
about five years being the only person i knew who'd
even heard of ig, let alone liked them (let alone
was completely obsessed with them).  then in 1994 i
joined stephen spencer's version of this list and
within 24 hours i knew i'd come home.  yay. :)  over
the years i've met, slept on the couches of, eaten
ice cream with, laughed so hard my sides hurt with
and played with the cats of more listfolk than i can
poke a stick at, and i'm still constantly amazed at
the generosity and friendship i've gotten through
the list.  yay, y'all. :)

about the sydney-area listmeet: so far the tentative
plan is for lunch, on sunday july 13, at a restaurant
in bowral (bowral is somewhere off the sydney-canberra
freeway, about an hour or so out of campbelltown).
contact me for more details - all comers welcome!

that's all for now, so happy happy folks,
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    "my ears are lucky to hear these
     glorious songs of inspiration,
     and voices crafted from thunder;
     the power of life..."      - happy rhodes

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sis,

thank you for helping me with this matter..
love me..

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> folkisgruven (i love that! hope you don't mind if i borrow it)

*grin* nope. don't mind 'tall. just don't break it, or drop it down the
sink. :)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

still driving...
lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

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hello all~
thought i'd jump on the bandwagon too...
it was the winter of my freshman year in high school (1993), i was driving
with a friend and all of a sudden i hear this beautiful song with the words
"romeo and juliet" in it.  i had no idea what the song was or who it was by,
but the words stuck in my head for weeks.

flash forward---

summer after my freshman year (the same 1993) i was at young life camp in
asheville, nc. sure enough, the same romeo and juliet song was coming over
the loudspeakers.  i asked everyone around me who sang this song, and finally
someone says, "this? it's by the indigo girls."  a girl from my school on the
trip with me had some of their cd's, and i borrowed rop for the 22 hour drive
home to kansas city on a crowded charter bus.  i can honestly say that music
kept me from going completely insane. less than twenty minutes after i had
been home, i had my mom drive me to best buy (i wasn't 16 yet) and i had my
very own copy of rop.  the rest is history.

and for my high school graduation present, my mom is taking my sister and i
to red rocks on july 18th!  my first time seeing the girls live!! i can't
wait!

see ya later,
kelly

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hi everyone-

i am one very *confuzzled* person here...are ig in the movie philadelphia or
not?  i rented it over the weekend and i watched with my friend, hoping to
hear the girls.  (i had already seen it, but wasn't as big a fan of ig back
then...)  so, i was sitting there, watching this movie, (which was much
better than i remembered it to be!!) waiting and waiting to hear a + e's
wonderful voices start singing, and then the movie ended!!!  no indigo girls.
what happened?  am i completely dense and just totally missed their song in
it?  i know it was a cover, but i would think that i could recongnize their
voices by now :)  if it was in there, what part of the movie was it in?
please help me, i know one of you guys know :)  thanks!!!

~liz~

p.s.-  i know that one of you has that boot with amy doing that cool soc in
chickenman that's on the web...i want it!!!!!  please e-mail me!!!!

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<geez, i'm feeling pretty old compared to the folks who first heard the girls
<when they were in 5th grade!  i was listening to the monkees and the
<partridge family at that age (c'mon, fess up, i know there's other '70s
<teeny-boppers out there!)

heidi, you are not alone!  i'm proud to say i've survived to the ripe old age
of 37, and when i was in 5th grade, david cassidy and bobby sherman were it!
thank god i've moved on to some quality music nowadays.

i do think it is so interesting how so many of the listees encountered the
ig's at camp of one sort or another.  one woman uses their music at emmaus
weekends she works for.  cool!  i never had the camp experience but it seems
to have been very formative in many womens' minds.

but i will say this:  the girls have brought a lot of peace and understanding
to me since i first heard them in the late 80's, and i continue to learn new
things all the time when listening to their beautiful music.    it's better
than some therapy sessions i've sat through, i tell you!

trapped in suburbia,

bonnie

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i really liked what harry had to say about this:

>speaking of my daughter, now 2,  as expected, she is turning in to a huge
>indigo girls fan. she always recognizes them when she hears them, and
>whenever we get into my car she says "play ndgogrlls daddy" right away.
>i've been playing her the new album, and with the exception of shed your
>skin,  she loves it.  she constantly asks us to sing the "ndgogrlls sun
>song" which is get out the map, and can recite most of the chorus.

this is great. i have friends with kids who play them lots of kids music
and as a result, in the car their kids won't listen to anything else but
the silly *kids* music all the time, screaming and getting unhappy if their
parents try to play their own music. when i have kids i will expose my kids
to whatever i love at the time (pray it's still ig etc) and bring them up
in the hope they develop a great love of music. not that i'll force them to
love what i love but it's gotta be a good start in life!

helen

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subject:      this rules!

in a message dated 6/25/97 12:36:03 am, you wrote:

<< ya.... so anyone agree with me that
dylan's lyrics are the greatest?  >>

        i love this man! well, not really, but his music rules.

btw, does anyone have extra tickets to lillith fair at jones beach on july
twenty fifth? if so, email me privately. thanks
julie

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in a message dated 6/25/97 12:36:03 am, you wrote:

<<i just wanted to ask you to please stop im'ing me and talking to me..i
don't
have the time to talk to you anyways since time is prescious. i will not be
cruel and tell everyone what you did to me because im not like that i am more
mature. i should have never mentioned my book and just kept it to myself and
you would have never bothered me..thanks again,,please please no more im's or
emailsmelissa
>>

huh? explain?

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haven't seen this already written but if it was, i apologize for the
repeat. i got my sots poster today. they did mail it rolled (although i
specifically asked for that). for anyone who has not seen one of these,
it's very cool. it is standard size, but two sided. one side (i'd call
it the front) is a color pic of amy and emily both sitting in the sort
of window frame area pictured on the back of the cd (where emily is
sitting and amy is jumping out of it). on the "back" is a black and
white of the walking through the desert picture that appears on the back
of the cd lyrics in color over 2.5 panels. above it is a quote:
"extraordinary music, shaming of the sun presents in 12 songs the
strengths of the indigo girls in their entirety: ebullience and
introspection, vocal dazzle and stinging guitar, arrangements
breathtakingly intimate or epic in range, street talk poetry and
language on fire. above all else...passsion." it's actually in quotation
marks on the poster. anybody know where this is quoted from, or just
some platitudes epic/sony made up?

(i think my stooopud mailer just sent half of this beforehand. sorry!)

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date:         tue, 24 jun 1997 22:25:04 -0500
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subject:      re: fans of dylan on the list (minimal igc)

dylan was for me what ig were for many on this list:  the one that
opened the door.  i vaguely knew of dylan as the guy who had written
blowing in the wind, which i only knew by its weaker cover versions.
then, around 1971, i started listening to "underground" radio, and
heard bob dylan's 115th dream, a very funny, but not overly serious
song.  it interested me enough to buy the album - bringing it all back
home.  i listened to side 1 and heard some nice rock and roll.  then i
put on side 2 and it cracked my mind:  mr tambourine man, gates of
eden, baby blue, it's all right ma (i'm only bleeding), four absolutely
revolutionary, consciousness expanding songs.  after wearing out the
grooves in this side, i knew music was going to be an important part of
my life.  i've learned to love many musicians since then, but the music
of bob dylan still blows me away.

hugh barroll

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my friend's got 2 tix he says are really good to the chicago lilith fair
on aug 9.  e-mail me privately and i'll hook you up with him.

vicki

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>sis,
>thank you for helping me with this matter..
>love me..
>
<glazed stare><blink>
huhhh???? what is this stuff??? it makes me confused + sad...
<pout> just bring on the "where were you?" posts again huh? huh???
i like those.... and so does my little friend...
peace... kim and her new meds....
********************************************************
the flesh is strong the spirit stronger, so shed your
skin baby, let it through... come on over now... amy ray
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hey there --does anyone have the lyrics to no way to treat a friend? if
so, could someone please email me a copy...thanks so much, tricia


worry about you, the rest will take care of itself--dad.

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hi all!
is someone out there going to the la tower records signing?  if so, would you
be willing to take our cd along to have it signed?  we would be ever so
grateful :]  please respond privately.

thanks!!!

rachel & chris :))))

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is there a list gathering planned before or after the show in austin on
fri?  anyone? anyone?  i'm driving in from san antonio on fri afternoon.
if anyone knows of a gathering, please let me know.
thanks,
lisa m

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hi all,
    the first time i ever heard an indigo girls song i was at an indoor color
guard show.  my friend's guard did their show to "least complicated".  i
imediately fell in love with the song.  a few months later, one of my friends
asked me if i wanted to see the girls in concert.  i hadn't heard any more of
their music, but that one song made such an impression that i couldn't say
no.  well, after that concert i became an obsessed fan and the rest is
history.

bye,
jaime

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flashback to 1989, along w/many of you. i get a tape of a band called voice
of the beehive (anyone? anyone? bueller?) dubbed for me by a friend who runs
a record store in miami beach, now called uncle sam's.  on the b side she
taped ig. after fast forwarding through it once or twice to get back to
voice of the b, i listen.  i stop.  i listen again...and again...and again.
i run everywhere singing about the "souplike vultures." in short, i'm an ig
junkie.

fast forward in '89--the girls come to the carefree theater in west palm.
an amazing 1st ig concert experience, but, it's not enough.  i follow them
the next night to a dive in miami called club nu, where i meet them for the
first time, i cry, e cries--i told that story on the list before.
{unbeknownst to me amy mednick is also in the crowd that night [reference
her post], a woman who years later will become one of my closest friends
because her gf saw an ig sticker on my car and talked to me. mmm, she also
talked to me because my roots were showing, but that's another story).
following the late late show at club nu, i go to work the next morning and,
at 5:00, jump in my car and head for orlando--3 hrs there, 3 hrs back, on a
work night--to see the girls again.
my stint as a crazed ig fan officially began then and i've never regretted
it.  they've helped me through some of the darkest times of my life and
they've made the good times even better. while there are bands and songs
that remind me of past friendships or lost loves, the ig always remind me of
me--of who i've been, of who i am, and of who i have the power to become.
peace,
lisa


"the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less
seriously, it's only life afterall." --emily saliers

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in a message dated 97-06-24 23:01:07 edt, dan writes:
<< for my money the best lyricists in music would be:
bob dylan
joni mitchell
amy ray
emily saliers
joan baez >>

yes dan, that is an impressive list, but there is one other artist
who is on par with mitchell and dylan and in my book that would be
(you guessed it ;) laura nyro, who wrote some of the most beautiful
lyrics and melodies of all time.
simple ...
stunning...
she came from a different space than dylan and mitchell ...
blending doo wop,r&b, jazz, pop and broadway show tunes
with zen... her poetry was outstanding. she had the gift that
comes from the same place as billie and miles.

"... somewhere out there children laugh like
                             meteors rollin down the grass
... mothers pull the nightime in
                  calling their children
                         with spoons in the wind...."
( i mean...is that not great !?!!)
or....
      "..once i lived under the city in my sweet july..."

( oh my god ! that is so beautiful it hurts !!!!)

"...kisses from you (i remember)
      kisses from you in the flames of december...."

( she brings me to my knees !!!)
help me !
(note the fire reference ;)
love !
claire
"thatracerxhessuchastrangemansometimesheactslikeafriend !"
(go!) speed racer (go!)

ain't no mercy on broadway
........................................

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i watched that film just to hear them sing and you know when you hear it?
it's in one very brief scene which from memory is when his mother is in the
kitchen doing something kitcheny and they're singing i don't wanna talk
about it on the radio. it's really faint and i only heard it cos i happened
to have the tv up loud just in case.

helen

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hi ya'll,
just wanted to thank everyone whose responded with info...i know that the
same info's been circulated over and over, and over again, but i tend to
delete a lot of messages not pertaining to me at the time i read them.
i'm also grateful to the nice people at one reel, who organizes summer
night's concerts in seattle.  this one nice woman actually took the time
to check 3 people regarding tickets for those shows, and she said that
there may be some seats for saturday's nearly sold out shows, and
definitely tickets for friday and sunday shows.... available through the
ticket box office on pier 62/63 and alaskan ave...beginning 11am.  gogo
go!=)

so thanks to everyone...i'm going to relay this info to my eager friends
up there in washingtonland.=)
seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu

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hi again,

well it looks like i may drive down to
san diego following the mesa show.  is it
really dark at night traveling from mesa to
san diego?

does anyone know of an easy way to get to
san diego from mesa?  also, where exactly
is the summer pops bowl?  i can't seem to
find info on it.

thanks again for the help.  i will be sure to
offer a tape for "treeing" from the los angeles
shows to show my gratitude.

once again, "thanks", you have all been really
swell and i appreciate all your help.

peace, tt

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andrea wrote:

>  "a butter biscuit would be very nice do you like jelly or
>          could improvise and oh oh then you can't go on.  a sure
>        vacation could be very neat you'd better hurry before i fall
>        off to sleep and oh oh then you can't go on."-michelle malone
>
   _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_


all this time i thought it was oh oh cant go wrong.  mm mr. limes.

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after a few weeks on the list it was great to finally read some stuff i
could relate to.  you see, living way away on the other side of the world,
my hackles rise with envy every time i see a post about another fantastic
concert i couldn't attend :)

first time i heard the gals i was actually in the states, studying in the
most beautiful one of all, oregon (any challenges?), when a fellow housemate
played me nis.  god...i just about fell over i was so overcome by the
intense sweetness and completeness of their voices.  my infatuation and
respect has continued since that fateful day in 1991.

i'm actually going to shift the discussion at this point to my favourite
conversion of a friend to indigo fandom!!  i was sitting in my car at the
national folk festival in canberra in 1996 (helen were you there???) after a
blissful evening of kristina olsen, penelope swales (an awesome australian
folkie), mulled wine and campfires.  feeling pleasantly indulged, my friend
and i were singing along together (she angelically, me tonelessly!)  as she
played guitar. in the car with us was a friend we'd made that evening.  i
played him some ig and he sat there silently, so blissed out with his eyes
closed and the hugest grin...like he'd just found heaven on earth.  i told
him he had.

just had to share a magical, if evangelical,  moment with you.  do you have
any to share???

one more question (although i guess sherlyn would let us all know at the
slightest hint :)  )  is there any rumour of an australian tour?
please...let there be some justice in our world!!!!!

indigo greetings
kirsti

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okay, my turn!
the first time i heard the indigo girls i was in a hotel room in
washington... alone. because i just had a fight with my parents and
they'd left me for the evening... i was feeling angry, depressed and
homesick (i'm from france, where they never play the indigo girls), so i
decided to listen to a tape i had bought in the afternoon. it was the
"boys on the side " soundtrack (i had bought it for melissa, the
cranberries and sarah mclachlan). i played it on my walkman and closed
my eyes. then, i heard a very beautiful song, "power of two". when it
stopped, i wanted more and i played it again and again. i loved the
voices and the lyrics. it seemed these girls were talking to me. they
comforted me that time, and lots of times later on... i found their
other cd's in london a few months later, then in miami, then in paris,
at last! the ig are always part of my trips... and of my life now!
bye and take care!
carrie (the only ig fan in paris, i guess!...)

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hey all! :)

can anyone help explain something to me?
i was listening to this mix tape of random boot songs from concerts and
there's this one time where emily and amy are talking with the audience and
for the life of me, i can't seem to figure out what they're saying!
it goes something like this:

emily: and everyone is listening to this concert on their computers...
took me two weeks to turn my computer on!!
(audience laughs)
emily: <no clue what she says here> (she says 2 words that i can't make out
cuz my version is  fuzzy)
(audience breaks into loud laughter/whooping)
amy: i just figured out what you meant! so that's what i've been doing
wrong with mine <she says more but i can't make it out> (and i lose the
ending)...

can anyone help?? thanks!

btw- ig was mentioned in this week's newsweek-there was an article about
lillith fair (very complementary) and there's this little reference to the
girls' performing for lillith fair, "those pious heavyweights (will be
singing also) such as tracy chapman and the indigo girls." heh heh, pious
indeed! :)

therese :)

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on tue, 24 jun 1997,  lisa tatonetti  wrote:

> i had always read/heard that a picked the word "indigo" out of the
> dictionary herself.

eh...it was a joke.  i know she got the name from the dictionary.
joni's post was an attempt at humor, so i responded in kind.

laugh...it was kinda funny....

anna

"i like to write really quiet songs on the electric guitar."  -amy ray


http://narnia.emu.edu/pub/students/creechal/creechal.htm

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at 2:20 pm -0400 6/24/97, chickensoprano wrote:

>eh...it was a joke.  i know she got the name from the dictionary.
>joni's post was an attempt at humor, so i responded in kind.

...key phrase:  "...an attempt at humor..."  ... obviously, a feable
attempt on my part...hehehe..;o)   well, it made me laugh....but then
again, i laugh at all my own jokes...what does that say, all you
head-shrinkers out there?

>laugh...it was kinda funny....

oh good, it's not just me.....  thanks anna!

and bonnie said:
>i'm proud to say i've survived to the ripe old age
>of 37, and when i was in 5th grade, david cassidy and bobby sherman were it!

oh my gawd!  someone out there knows bobby sherman besides me?  "...hey
little woman please make up your mind you've got to come down from that
cloud girl and leave your world behind!  c'mon now! na na na na na na na na
na na, you've got to ...."  whoo hoo!  somebody stop me!

whew!  ok, i'm ok now...la la la la la...de da  (it's my world - welcome to
it...)


joni  :o)

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i was just thinking that i must be the oldest person on the list, then
i saw two posts about bobby sherman and the partridges!!  yeah, i'm
not the only one who didn't hear them in the 5th grade.  the music is
a major influence in my life.  i'm proud to say my daughter started to
sing the girls music when i play my guitar at five.  i hope she is on
the list when she grows up.
patt

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it was 1989 and i was in the navy counting the days until i could get back into
college. i met this guy who was so miserable about being in the navy. his wife,
him and i hung out quite a bit and they listened to the ig constantly. i got
hooked immediately. they left town sometime later and i continued to listen to
the girls. there songs remind me of all of the people that have floated in and
out of my life and how usually, i forget to take a minute to think about the
impact they've had on me.

any way, fast forward to 1994, i was in my sophomore year of college working in
atlanta for the summer when i heard that the girls would be playing in town. i
bought a ticket and went to the show. it was an incredible experience. i was
probably the only black guy sitting on this lawn in the middle of a sea of
white faces but i felt right at home. i felt a real sense of community that
night. everyone was really cool and the music was amazing. i became an even
bigger fan after seeing them live.

thanks for listening

hubie

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hell, i would want to walk up on that stage, and tell amy and emily to get
two 12 strings and sing "sundown" by gordon lightfoot with me.....

because amy would just rock if she sang the melody.

thinkiing of this makes me think today may actually be an ok day!  ;)

peace, love and ig-
karrie

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i, too, have the privelidge of having my first ig experience at camp.  i
think it was summer of '89, and i was part of a group of 14 that just
returned from a 21 day canoe/cycling trip in ontario and michigan.
needless to say, at 16, it was one of the most challenging and rewarding
experiences of my life, and what got me into my love for enjoying the
open road on a bicycle!

anyway, so we get back to camp, and the session was over in 2 days - the
summer had flown by.  there is always a banquet and slide show on one of
the last nights, and the slide show always had the greatest music.  there
we were, looking at pictures of people we didn't know, experiencing a
summer that we really weren't a part of, it was kinda depressing!  but,
the music in the background caught me...i later found out it was ctf.  the
week i returned home from camp, i bought the tape, and kept it in my tape
deck for a long, long time.  it was kinda hard trying to get friends
interested in the ig when the standard music at your school was eazy-e and
run dmc...

...their music has kept me going throughout many years at camp (this
year being the first i'm not there since i was 11! :(  )...for the last
three summers i was the one leading the bike trips, and watershed became
that song i would sing to myelf as i pedaled up a ny mountain road with
50 pounds of gear on my bike...not looking at what i had left to climb,
but focusing on the song in my head.  i always made it to the top.

---and yes, if you don't know who "the girls" at at my camp, it's like
you're from another planet, and you will know who they are by the time the
summer is over!

keep on keepin' on

sarah
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i look back on my life
andi have a good laugh..."
        -emily saliers
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subject:      attention houston goheads

hi there!
i just wanted to let the houston area iglisters know that amy and emily will
be on 96.5fm this afternoon-interviewed by paul christy.  happy listening!!
anybody be able to tape it????
see ya tonight at the woodlands  (3rdrow center in the pit yes!!!!!!!) :)
peace, love, and all things indigo,
kris

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ok i have been good and quiet reading the
posts about the where i was when.... but i cannot hold out
any longer!!!

school yr (89-90) senior yr! a friend and i at the time
made all these tapes for each other, knowing that we would be
going to different schools (colleges) and w/o transport, i got like
10 cassette tapes outta her with mixes.. she made her own tape
covers (that's where i got the idea tone!!) and the first one
she gave me was like u2, billy idol, rem, and the girls.. almost
all of the self titled cd was on it smashed between "devil inside"
and "white wedding" (happily my mixes were a bit less chaotic
on the ears) but anyways i couldnt find their cd anywhere after
that tape.. living in po-dunk indiana and all... my freshman yr
of college i find both sf and the self titled at von's in the
used bin (i know i know, beat me with a wet noodle)

but every once in awhile i get nostalgic for that mix and plug it in
there is something good about "prince of darkness" coming before
"devil inside" :) you know it's a good mix if you hear the song on the radio
and as it ends you think of the song after it on the mix :)

about those 2 yr olds singing ig.. (hi harry!!)
my best friend in the whole wide world got hooked on ig
the same time i did (what an influence i am) and when she was
preggers she wouldnt get cravings for ice cream (nope nope!!)
she'd get ig cravings and dance about her place singing loudly
now her son henry is 2 and he listens to ig all the time
it always calms him down, and boy he is a great dancer :)

ok i swear i'll shut up.. one hour of sleep today and
only one cup of coffee in the pot *argh!!!!

a very weary anjeanette

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helen replied:
>this is great. i have friends with kids who play them lots of kids music

>and as a result, in the car their kids won't listen to anything else but

>the silly *kids* music all the time

well, we listen to a lot of kids music as well as other artists.  i think
the variety is nice for her.

while there is certainly *kids* music i can't stand, starting with
barney,  there is also some i really like and she just loves.  we listen
to a lot of sesame street.  we have the platinum hits collection, which
has all the classics like elmo's song, c is for cookie, the monster in
the mirror, and sing a song  (i love this cd),  and we have these new
tapes that has the characters singing kids versions of popular songs -
the tapes are  "born to add" and "sesame road."  my new favorite songs
are "i am chicken"  to the tune of "i am woman"  (which is hysterical)
and "rebel l" to "rebel yell"   really.  punk sesame  st.    it's great
stuff.  my daughter just loves coming up to me and saying "i am chicken,
here me squawk!"

she also listens to a tape i made her of the beatles, joni mitchell,
carly simon, cat stevens, james taylor, carol king, and paul simon, which
are all the artists i grew up listening to.  she can now tell them all
apart and especially loves joni mitchell (mainly the circle game) and the
beatles (especially all you need is love).  her other favorite song is
house at pooh corner, which she can recite most of.  she hasn't heard the
indigo version of that yet though.

on another note,  has anyone here tried listening to pink floyd's the
dark side of the moon while watching the wizard of oz yet??  if so, what
did you think.  i originally thought it couldn't be real, but now that
i've seen it i have second thoughts,  especially with the twister being
synched perfectly to "the great gig in the sky" and the start of money
with the change to color.  i thought it was really cool.


: )
  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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i hesitate to post this, but its been eating at me for a while now.

one of the things that made amy's birthday gift (a $2500 donation to
hte) so special was that everyone on the list came together for a
common purpose. we found a way to do something tangible as a unit.
think about how many birthday cards/gifts amy must get a year -- i
really believe we stood out, and changed our world slightly for the
better.

although the goals of emily's birthday _gifts_ (monetary donations to
billings house and donations of time to various volunteer projects)
are equally wonderful, imho i have a sense of division and
competition. two gifts, two presentations -- it just doesn't feel
right.

urvashi has an excellent point that some of us don't have the bucks --
and besides in many ways time is more valuable than money.  i think
the time contribution and the money are wonderful complements to each
other, and i hope both traditions continue.  i just really wish they
were being given as one gift, one voice from this list.

what will happen, will happen and in the long run it really doesn't
matter.  i guess i hope that the organizers of each individual gift
will get together and make it two ways to give to the same project.

                        just thinking aloud,

                                chris

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i would like to get together with folks after the show friday night. my
suggestion would be kerby lane south, on south lamar. if anyone needs
directions, drop me a line today or tomorrow (i'll be  out of the office
on friday).

peace,

dan perkins
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bassist/singer/songwriter

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looking for the key to set me free."
               -joni mitchell

>-----original message-----
>from:  lisa madry [smtp:lisamad@texas.net]
>sent:  tuesday, june 24, 1997 10:45 pm
>subject:       austin fri - que pasa?
>
>is there a list gathering planned before or after the show in austin on
>fri?  anyone? anyone?  i'm driving in from san antonio on fri afternoon.
>if anyone knows of a gathering, please let me know.
>thanks,
>lisa m

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i haven't seen anything about the show in no. no setlist, nothing. didn't
any listees attend???

deb

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subject:      re: where i was...

hmmm...i think that i was getting ready for school, in about 1989, and amy
and emily were on something like good morning america doing closer to fine.
i loved it and bought the tape.  unfortunately i forgot about them for a
while.  fast forward to senior year in college.  my roommates and i decided
it would be fun to go to a concert together, and it just so happened that the
girls had added an extra night to their austin performance of the so tour.
we went and i was completely captivated.  it was definitely a spiritual
experience for me.  i think there is something to be said for that first
concert where i didn't know all the words and every song was like a brand new
gift.  i was definitely hooked.  i went out the next day and subsequently
bought all of their cds.  they have been a daily part of my life ever since.

dena

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grrrr.  well, it is some random morning hour and i have awoken to a screen
absolutely full of mail.  this is my first day on this list, and so i want to
say hello to you all.  between this and the ellen mailing list, i may well
drown myself in mail, but i think i'm prepared to fight that kind of battle.
after weeks of relentlessly listening to shaming of the sun and swamp
ophelia on repeat at night while i sleep, i felt i was ready to join your
happy list.  anyway, i don't want to spew on pointlessly, only to say hello!
to everyone, and i hope that you have a wonderful, beautiful, happy day.
erin
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howdy kids...

i posted this to the pnw list, but my computer must be doing something crazy again, because it never went through.  so many apologies if this turns up a duplicate...

okay, this is pj and my official plea for a kind oregon friend to loan us their driveway for a night.  hmmm...interesting request, yes?
the deal is this: pj's bee-oo-ti-ful vw bus is going to be transporting the two of us down to the jacksonville concert on the 7th.  thing is, we're thinking that it'd be a lot better if we made the trip in two days instead of pushing our luck and trying to get the poor thing all the way down to the border in 24 hours (and yeah, we both just want another day off work).  sooo, we're thinking of camping out somewhere in the eugene area on the night of the 5th and then traversing the rest of the way on the sixth.  pj's (as i said before bee-oo-ti-ful) van has a mattress in the back, and we come fully equipped with sleeping bags, so we don't need beds...just a friendly spot to park (or pitch tents), and maybe some fun company for a dinner get together.  any takers?  thanks muchly.

ciao y'all.

-greta

and by the way, go see the billy tipton memorial saxophone quartet tonightat the tractor tavern, eh?  last chance before they're playing stadiums...:)

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< is there a list gathering planned before or after the show in austin on
< fri?  anyone? anyone?

to date, the only austin gathering i know of is at kirby lane on s. lamar
after the show. i don't even konw after which show, so i was going to try
after both shows. does anyone have any other plans?  let me know.

trant

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subject:      re: ig on the radio/ houston

hi there again!!
i'm on the phone as we speak to 96.5, but it just keeps on ringing and
ringing.  i am determined whoa someone just answered and the answer is
.........drumroll please.....the interview and performance should be
sometime around 3:00 o'clock per 96.5!!! i know that paul christy comes on
at 2pm.  so tune your radio in and listen for our girls!!! :)
see ya,
kris

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i agree totally...expose kids to all sorts of music...my little guy who is
now 4, loves ig and is particularly fond of soy...but he sings it as shame
on me giggle*.

ever since he was born, we've had music in his room at night varying from
classical to contemporary...his favs are ig, enya, handel's water music, and
the police greatest hits *grin* (you should hear him singing roxanne), he
also loves to "groove" to stuff like u2 and bushx (quite an ecclectic taste
developing there i think ;))

just thought i'd share :)

marilyn
every moment of peace is worth every war behind us... emily saliers

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is it just me or does the song shed your skin's style sound very much like
chrissy hynde from the pretenders?

just my 2 cents...only worth 1.43 cents you ya yanks ;)

marilyn
every moment of peace is worth every war behind us... emily saliers

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the show last night in no was great  - the crowd was a bit disappointing
but the girls were awesome *of course*  - i don't have the full set list
but here's what i remember - they opened with tried to be true and dgtgag;
did most of the new stuff; also chickenman, ghost, bury my heart, lc,
galileo, closed with ctf.

------------------------------
amy m. grooters, dvm, dacvim            "baby i said, it's all in our hands
grooters_a@vt8200.vetmed.lsu.edu                    got to learn to respect
louisiana state university                         what we don't understand"
                                                                  - amy ray

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hey y'all. quick update about our gift of time:

i talked (again!!) to someone from russell's office and she said she was
still waiting to hear from the girls about whether or not it was okay to
present the certificate to emily (or at least explain what we were doing)
this saturday. she said she was sure emily would be really appreciative,
but that the girls didn't usually do "after-shows" (whatever that means. i
assumed it meant things after the show, so i suggested before the show, but
apparently "after-shows" includes that as well. very confusing, no?).  so
anyway, i'm going to write a letter to emily to explain the project if i
don't get to do it in person.

as to the hours....(drum rolls, trumpets, and many flourishes)...with only
22 people reporting in, we are already up to one thousand and forty
hours!!!! can't wait to get the rest of you report in!

reports from our satellite stations continue to roll in......

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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subject:      guitar book?(nigc)

hello tweeties

okay, so my friend is moving and selling me his guitar. so! i'm actually gonna
learn how to play the durn thing. i was wondering if any of you could recommend
a good "teach yerself how to play the geetar" book for me. i can read music,
and i know what the five strings are, so i'm not entirely sans clue, but can't
afford a teacher til the students get back in saptmeber and i can cheaply
exploit one of them (bwa!)... so please, if you have used a good "begionner's
book", help me out.

tanky.

susan
who dreams of spanking various members of the partridge family

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> in a message dated 97-06-24 23:01:07 edt, dan writes:
> << for my money the best lyricists in music would be:
>  bob dylan
>  joni mitchell
>  amy ray
>  emily saliers
>  joan baez >>
> (you guessed it ;) laura nyro, who wrote some of the most beautiful

no arguments from me on these, but you are remiss if you don't add ferron
to that list. i'd add melissa ferrick too, for her ability to punch right
through a topic into your guts, and cheryl wheeler for her almost
flippant ability to pull out the absolute most perfect phrasing, but they
don't have the same kind of awe inspiring poetic tongue-rolling
gorgeousness that ferron has.

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

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lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

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i was flipping stations yesterday, and heard world falls on 107.1, and they
said afterwards that a&e would be in the studio on friday morning to play
something live, but he didn't say what time.  they were giving away tickets
to anyone who could name what album world falls is on. i was screaming
nomads indians saints at my radio for the next minute or so.  hope everyone
in indigo land is having a good day... i can't wait until friday!  (kerbey
lane s., right?)

indigo smiles,
amy

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date:         wed, 25 jun 1997 13:33:30 edt
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              "lorinda wright" at jun 25, 97 11:54 am

>
> > in a message dated 97-06-24 23:01:07 edt, dan writes:
> > << for my money the best lyricists in music would be:
> >  bob dylan
> >  joni mitchell
> >  amy ray
> >  emily saliers
> >  joan baez >>
> > (you guessed it ;) laura nyro, who wrote some of the most beautiful
>
> no arguments from me on these, but you are remiss if you don't add ferron
> to that list. i'd add melissa ferrick too, for her ability to punch right
> through a topic into your guts, and cheryl wheeler for her almost
> flippant ability to pull out the absolute most perfect phrasing, but they
> don't have the same kind of awe inspiring poetic tongue-rolling
> gorgeousness that ferron has.
>
and you're remiss if you don't add ani difranco (who can practically knock
you out with a brutally phrased lyric), jonatha brooke (whose lyrics make you
go "oh...yeah...i've been there" even when you don't know what the hell she's
talking about), dar williams (who can pack more words into the same length
song than just about anyone else, *and* have each one be essential), and bill
morrissey (about the most truthful, wise, and real lyrics i know of.)
kirsten

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> > in a message dated 97-06-24 23:01:07 edt, dan writes:
> > << for my money the best lyricists in music would be:
> >  bob dylan
> >  joni mitchell
> >  amy ray
> >  emily saliers
> >  joan baez >>
> > (you guessed it ;) laura nyro, who wrote some of the most beautiful

lorindigo suggested ferron and melissa ferrick.

i'd also add paul simon.  he wrote some schlock along the way (didn't
they all) but paul simon has some winners in all phases of his
carrer. "the dangling conversation," "american tune," and "graceland"
would win awards anywhere.

i'd also give ani difranco and peter gabriel honorable mention.  ani's
lyrics are the most honest things i've ever seen you simply can't
hide.

gabriel's lyrics wouldn't be as strong without the music, but the two
work in tandem so well. when i am done listening to a peter gabriel
song, i feel exactly how he meant me to feel.  _so_ is quite the
roller coaster.


                        --  chris

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claire and i think dan wrote:
>> in a message dated 97-06-24 23:01:07 edt, dan writes:
>> << for my money the best lyricists in music would be:
>>  bob dylan
>>  joni mitchell
>>  amy ray
>>  emily saliers
>>  joan baez >>
>> (you guessed it ;) laura nyro, who wrote some of the most beautiful

and then lorinda added:
>no arguments from me on these, but you are remiss if you don't add ferron
>to that list. i'd add melissa ferrick too, for her ability to punch right
>through a topic into your guts, and cheryl wheeler for her almost
>flippant ability to pull out the absolute most perfect phrasing, but they
>don't have the same kind of awe inspiring poetic tongue-rolling
>gorgeousness that ferron has.

i'm gonna do it lorinda, i can't keep it in any longer. sometimes you just
get to a point in your life where you ned to be true to yourself and for me,
this is one of those points. goodess, i hope sherlyn will still allow me to
be on the faq team after this but...

ferron writes the best damn lyrics in the world. they are pure poetry and
several of her songs have spoken to me on a more personal level than any ig
song!

i'm done now. wow, i feel soooooooooooooooooo much better. who gets the
toaster oven?;)

deb

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if i remember correctly, they can be heard in tom hanks's mother's
kitchen while he's on the phone with her...or something like that.

they're definitely in there, but it's also quite brief.

darren

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in a message dated 97-06-25 13:23:22 edt, halbans@dca.gov.au (helen albans)
writes:

<< >speaking of my daughter, now 2,  as expected, she is turning in to a huge
>indigo girls fan. she always recognizes them when she hears them, and
>whenever we get into my car she says "play ndgogrlls daddy" right away.
>i've been playing her the new album, and with the exception of shed your
>skin,  she loves it.  she constantly asks us to sing the "ndgogrlls sun
>song" which is get out the map, and can recite most of the chorus.
  >>

i have 3 boys.  the oldest is 3 1/2 and the twins are 22months.  they love
the ig!!  my oldest knows a lot of their songs...especially "shame on you".
they all dance around and sing.  i love it!!

janeen

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hey, i don't have this boot mix, but i'd sure like to get a copy of the
entire concert, does that special person like to start a tree...i'll
volunteer to be a branch...=)
anyone...anyone...anyone?
smiles  =)  smiles

seona
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on wed, 25 jun 1997, leung wrote:

> hey all! :)
>
> can anyone help explain something to me?
> i was listening to this mix tape of random boot songs from concerts and
> there's this one time where emily and amy are talking with the audience and
> for the life of me, i can't seem to figure out what they're saying!
> it goes something like this:
>
> emily: and everyone is listening to this concert on their computers...
> took me two weeks to turn my computer on!!
> (audience laughs)
> emily: <no clue what she says here> (she says 2 words that i can't make out
> cuz my version is  fuzzy)
> (audience breaks into loud laughter/whooping)
> amy: i just figured out what you meant! so that's what i've been doing
> wrong with mine <she says more but i can't make it out> (and i lose the
> ending)...
>
> can anyone help?? thanks!
>
> btw- ig was mentioned in this week's newsweek-there was an article about
> lillith fair (very complementary) and there's this little reference to the
> girls' performing for lillith fair, "those pious heavyweights (will be
> singing also) such as tracy chapman and the indigo girls." heh heh, pious
> indeed! :)
>
>
>
> therese :)
>
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uuugggg!  it really doesn't matter to me where their name originated, but,
this message is confusing...which exactly is a joke?
confused...
seona
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on tue, 24 jun 1997, chickensoprano wrote:

> on tue, 24 jun 1997,  lisa tatonetti  wrote:
>
> > i had always read/heard that a picked the word "indigo" out of the
> > dictionary herself.
>
> eh...it was a joke.  i know she got the name from the dictionary.
> joni's post was an attempt at humor, so i responded in kind.
>
> laugh...it was kinda funny....
>
> anna
>
> "i like to write really quiet songs on the electric guitar."  -amy ray
>
>
> http://narnia.emu.edu/pub/students/creechal/creechal.htm
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>oh my gawd!  someone out there knows bobby sherman besides me?

i too, grew up with this craze.
however, now that i think about it,
that i about when i realized that i liked ann murry, instead.

"and, that was just the beginning...of the rest of my life..." (1200c)

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> laura nyro, who wrote some of the most beautiful
>lyrics and melodies of all time.
i second ms binky here
> bob dylan
> joni mitchell
> amy ray
> emily saliers
> joan baez >>
these too, but add
gordon lightfoot, especially his early stuff.
marilyn

i am a problem child- i've been wild all my days...(a.ray)

..still crazy after all these years.. (p. simon)

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word to the wise:

if you've ever put off reading the digest cuase you have too much to do, think
twice the next time....

i just read about the little issue with cedar's hummus, which is what i pretty
much live on, and i'm wondering why i haven't dropped to the floor and started
fomaing profusely at the mouth yet.

thank goddess i work in an infirmary!!!.i'm off to get checked.......many, many
thanks to whoever posted that

sus
who'll miss y'all a lot if she suddenly has to take the big dirt nap

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go to this address for tons of native american links and stuff click on
peoples path link then i think its under special paths and then music they
have a ulila link with info and how to get music by th em link wasnt
workign today but it was working yesterday
also under this area (this is where the girls content comesin) is alink to
lifeblood and a likn to some ig lyrics like kid fears and bury my heart at
wounded kneee fun ny thing here is there a diff between the live verions
of bury and the studio cause they have lyric lynks for both if u k now
what the diff is let me know
hugs anthony van pyre

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what about sarah mclaghlan?!?!?

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> >oh my gawd!  someone out there knows bobby sherman besides me?
>
> i too, grew up with this craze.
> however, now that i think about it,
> that i about when i realized that i liked ann murry, instead.
>

let's not forget those other two pop stars who graced the cover of tiger
beat back in the earlly 70's, micheal jackson and donny osmond.  i saw the
j-5 in dc back in the summer of 72 when their number one hit was a love
song to a rat named ben.  oh well, i guess i just showed my old age with
this post but paul mccartney just turned 55 and still rocking so i don't
feel too bad.

                                                have a great indigo day;

                                                              jim

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> claire and i think dan wrote:
> >> in a message dated 97-06-24 23:01:07 edt, dan writes:
> >> << for my money the best lyricists in music would be:
> >>  bob dylan
> >>  joni mitchell
> >>  amy ray
> >>  emily saliers
> >>  joan baez >>
> >> (you guessed it ;) laura nyro, who wrote some of the most beautiful

i would have to add john lennon (thoughts meander like a restless wind
inside a letter box, they tumble blindly as they make their way across the
universe) as well some other great songs.

and i think that jim morrison should be added too ( indians scattered on
dawns early highway bleeding, ghost crowd a young childs fragile egg-shell
mind) .....

                                                        take care

                                                              jim

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hi,
i'm not on the list but for bizarre computer reasons at work, i've had to
go through on account to get to another.  anyway, while in my friends
account if i have time i tune into what going on...as i'm a huge ig fan.
i wanted to say that not only is my little girl a ig wannabe, she loves a
local childrens band called the bugaboos, starring no other than gerard
mchugh!  as a parent, it's some of the best listening out there.  great
songs, fabulous lyrics, good messages for everyone.  we have two tapes.  i
don't know if their music has moved past atlanta..it should..but i'd be
happy to get information on purchasing a tape to anyone out there with or
without kids!
just drop me a line..
sarah

satola@bimcore.emory.edu

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hi everyone!

i've been lurking since maybe october, typing little bits here and there
when i could. and i feel like i know y'all anyway. i've even met some of
you (hi raine! pam, are you out there?) and you're amazing people. but
when sots came out and the concert reviews started going...whoa, i just
could not handle all of the mail, sadly enough.

okay, for the 'where were you?' thread (which i adore, btw):

back in the 6th grade i was in chorus in decatur, ga. my favorite
teacher was the chorus/music teacher, miss romo. some of the girls even
slept over at her place when we were going to honor chorus, and i  felt
really close to her. i've always loved to sing, and i took chorus really
seriously, even at twelve. i listened to what my dad listened to: the
beatles, fleetwood mac, utopia, the who, stuff like that. one time in
chorus we were talking about popular music, and miss romo mentioned some
girls that she had gone to high school with at shamrock, named amy and
emily. she said that they had some music out, but that they had just put
out a cd on a major label. and then she played us "closer to fine". i
liked it, but i thought that it was sorta country. i also didn't have
any money to buy cds.

fast forward to a few years later. i was flipping channels and saw the
video for "galileo" on vh1. i noted the name and thought 'hey, those are
those girls that miss romo knows'. by then miss romo was mrs reynolds,
and we had lost touch. i made a mental note to look for their cds...but
we know how mental notes go, right? ;)

yet a few more years ahead, and i was at a friend's house, then i saw
the "least complicated" video on vh1. i thought it was really cute.
again another mental note. again forgotten for other things.

finally about a year and a half ago an on-line friend sent me a tape
with so on one side and disc 1 of 1200c on the other. i played it over
and over and over and over...and fell in love with it, especially
"language or the kiss", "ghost", and "mystery". i learned all of the
lyrics, all of the harmonies, and then i needed more. more! so i
eventually bought all of the cds and stumbled upon the list, yay!

it's odd...it's like for years they've always existed in the back of my
mind. i suppose that their music came to me when i most needed it. :)

now i'm turning people onto them...i had a friend stay with me from
england a few months ago. he plays electric guitar and is really into
heavy mental/thrash (korn, machine head, metallica), but i took him to
the 5/25 concert in atlanta and got him hooked! of course he had to deal
with riding with two people that were singing along to rop at the top of
their lungs (i was emily, my friend annie was amy) too. once back in
england, he asked me send him rop and learned how to play "galileo".
talk about your eclectic tastes, eh? ;)

i love sots. it seems like with a lot of people, it takes some listening
to get used to it. it's a different sound, but to me it's still a + e
and still wonderful! i always identified with the emily songs better but
i've been warming more and more to amy's stuff too, especially the songs
on sots. i love it all, though. i also think that amy's cuter, but
anyway. ;)

i attended two concerts, 5/23 and 5/25 in atlanta, and they were
*amazing*. there were a lot of great reviews, and i can't do better, but
trust me when i say that they were the best concerts i've ever attended,
and that the people around me were really great: friendly and talkative.

what else? i wanna say thanks to sarah, butter biscuit,
sanawike1@aol.com...y'all might remember that i posted a little
frantically not too long ago 'cause i hadn't heard from her (i sent her
tix to the auburn concert). but thankfully everything worked out fine
and she's back on-line, yay!

hmmm...i guess that's it for now, thanks for reading this far. :)

smiles,

shanna


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ok, i'm going to add my two cents here. actually, i'm going to steal my two
cents from another lister. thanks suzanne. :)

let me also say that i know very little about the private lives of either amy
or emily ( except the obvious ). that's fine with me.

ok, to the writer -

suzanneglass @ geocities.com (suzanne glass) wrote:
>now, this is a free country, you can write about anything you want, but
>i sure wouldn't want to be the one to p*ss amy ray off like that! i'm
>sure the would-be writer is trying to somehow "pay homage" (i look for
>the good in people, i won't even entertain the idea that she was
>interested in making money from us....the ig faithful),

i totally agree here with suzanne. i also believe that there were only "good
intentions" by the writer. however, sometimes we do things without
understanding the full implications of our actions. this is obviously the case
here. read further.

>but man, amy already hurts enough. she is private in a life that doesn't
>easily allow privacy. amy tries to open up, (ie the atlanta mag article and
>letter),and she gets burned. she will stop completely if pushed too far.

this would be very bad. ( duh? )  i haven't seen this article and don't know
the story here, ( can someone please fill me in? thanks! ) but it doesn't sound
good.

>to the writer: hey, i don't take what you are doing personally, but this
>was the wrong place to ask about it. and yes, as a writer you will get
>slammed way more than this in a long career.follow your heart, we all
>must, but don't be too hurt if the fans don't appreciate it. they are
>fiercely protective.

posting to the list was a big mistake. you know that now. fiercely protective?
i've only been on the list a short while but that is an understatement. more
like old smaug guarding his dwarf gold ( see the hobbit ).  a testament to the
devotion and dedication of the fans on this list and those not on it.

so, to waste some more band width. the book was a good idea before you posted
to the list about it, as nobody had known about it before that ( or very few ).
now that everyone knows...................

signing off..........( thank god! i know. )

dave
( in the burgh and still reeling from blossom. sorry about not making the list
meet. i just made it to the show. traffic. and for the fine lady who posted not
long ago about the show, the other encore song was "chickenman"  - roadkill
version :)))))))))))))))). girls, please come back east!!! )

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i would like to thank you all for your acts of kindness and good thoughts.

those of you who have responded to me in a physical manner (email)
have been thanked individually.
but there are many, i am sure, who offered private thoughts,
or individual acts of support.

at this time, i would like to offer a very sincere thank you
good wishes, or whatever you may have done to support me
in perhaps one of the most taxing experiences of my life.

i suceeded with flying colours.

thank you, kind friends.
deb

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love this thread!

first time for me was after a softball game...i was getting a ride home
from the woman who played third base (in this game i began a long streak
of being the lead batter, another reason i remember this)...she had a
cool car and i was sitting in it when she popped in nomads, indians, and
saints...she said, "you're gonna love this"....so i sat there and
listened to it as we whizzed by a bunch of alabamian trees on the way
home...and i did love it...and then i went and bought the other
cds...laughed when i found out that ig also sang closer to fine...who
knew? (not me then)...and now i'm a "crazy asian" (for d.s.) woman trying
to find indigo girls paraphernalia...i also love indigo girls because
they've allowed me to connect to some really cool women of the boston
indigo girls sect...one day, i will meet them and get a
picture/autograph, oh yes, one day...ps i'm listening to this "spirit of
'73" which is a compilation of songs including of course indigo girls
(track #20 = it won't take long, pretty long = over 7 minutes, just
learning it, i like it so far)...you should listen to some of the cuts
they have from various deejays' talking and conversations (they're
random, no interviews)...kinda cool....@=d take care, jen

~~~activism~~~~~equality~~~~~~peace~~~~
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hi all!

if anyone does tape the 96.5 houston and the 107.1 austin interviews
i hereby volunteer to help start a tree, if anyone is interested.

caroline

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one ticket left to sell, seattle wa july 12 (saturday) for $25 us.
will donate the $25 to ems b-day gift if sold. contact deng@vnet.ibm.com
if interested. tx,

de

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subject:      i feel left out

so many people had their first ig experiences at camp and i feel left out!!!


the only summer camp i ever went to was the one-week girl scout camp at
kolomoki in defuniak springs, fl - anybody else ever go there???  i went
about 4 times but the coolest song anyone ever sang was probably "god bless
my underwear" - i won't go any further with that.  :)

i propose that we as a list band together and set up a summer camp for
indigo-deprived youngsters.  maybe we could even get them to come and perform
at the grand opening of......  camp indigo!!!!!!   we could even have it out
in the wilderness east of atlanta, and go into town every weekend for
shopping and to try and have indigo sightings  :)

i think i'll stop now - this is getting too dumb even for me!!!!  :)

peace, harmony & indigo,

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"do you mean to tell me that you come from a round world (round like a ball)
and you've never told me?"
  - prince caspian

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in a message dated 6/25/97 12:46:57 pm, bonnemot@aol.com (bonnie lacey)
wrote:

>i do think it is so interesting how so many of the listees encountered the
>ig's at camp of one sort or another.  one woman uses their music at emmaus
>weekends she works for.  cool!  i never had the camp experience but it seems
>to have been very formative in many womens' minds.

camp was definitely a big influence in my life.  when i was at sailing camp
on martha's vineyard in the '70s (any vsc alumni out there?), i got turned on
to joni mitchell, carly simon, judy collins, and many of the artists who
probably influenced the girls (at least emily) as strong female
singer-songwriters.  i can just picture how important the girls are at camps
today -- if i were 20 years younger, i know i'd have a notebook full of their
songs and tunings.

>but i will say this:  the girls have brought a lot of peace and
understanding
>to me since i first heard them in the late 80's, and i continue to learn new
>things all the time when listening to their beautiful music.    it's better
>than some therapy sessions i've sat through, i tell you!

i can't even put into words how much the ig's music has gotten me through my
life in the past 8 years!  i have listened to them in cars, trains, planes,
at home,  at work, in the hospital having my first child, in china adopting
my second child, in many mind-blowing live performances ... no other artist
or group even comes close to inspiring me as much as they have.

>trapped in suburbia,

hey -- me, too!  at least now we know we're not the only ones carpooling our
kids around while blasting ig from our minivans!  ;-)

>bonnie

heidi d.

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hi all,

my 18 year old brother is working on compiling a bunch of stuff for an
english assignment that deals with overcoming boundaries. he needs one more
thing and wants it to be an ig song which i said i'd choose for him. my
feelings so far are with the wood song although i'm not entirely sure it
fits...

anyone got any thoughts on what would be a good choice? i need it by
tonight (about six hours from now) so if anyone has any thoughts, mail me
at halbans@dca.gov.au since i'm on digest and might not get to read posts
to the list about this until tomorrow. maybe if you suggest the song and
the reason why (i know it's a broad topic) that would give me some ideas. i
can think of individual lines and verses but whole songs are leaving me
stumped.

thanks
helen

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<< > where were you and what were you doing when you first heard our beloved
> girls? >>
it was 1989 and i was at home with the flu, too sick to read or watch
"serious" tv. vh1 was on and i was half watching it and the ctf video came
on. i was amazed to see two non-tarted-up (you know how women are portrayed
in videos, don't you?), real acoustic female musicians in ripped jeans and
flannel shirtts singing the most wonderful harmonies. as soon as i felt
better rushed out and bought everything by ig i could find. i've been a loyal
fan ever since.

karen

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>i'm actually going to shift the discussion at this point to my favourite
>conversion of a friend to indigo fandom!!

i'm working on my husband. i think i have over played them. i am learning
that's never a good way to convert someone. he loves how i play and sing
their music more than he likes listening to them so i'm happy with that.
:-) although i will never reach the heights of their talent but he thinks
i'm good! wonders never cease. i think i'm bad!

>i was sitting in my car at the
>national folk festival in canberra in 1996 (helen were you there???)

i've been meaning to go for years and have never had the chance due to
other things. 1998 will be the year!


>just had to share a magical, if evangelical,  moment with you.  do you
have
>any to share???

yeah my sister. she liked them a little and listened to them with me but i
knew her connection was never like mine. one night she was staying in
sydney and called me in tears. she had been going through some emotional
stuff but for her to call me in tears was totally unprecedented.anyway, in
the background i heard nis playing. i had taped it for her. she could
barely speak. she said she was sitting alone feeling so sad and listening
to nis. she said the music just broke her up, like she'd never heard it
before and she sat and listened to all the lyrics right the way through.
she said she never knew how much ig songs could touch you. she just thought
they were good songs. i felt like christians must feel when a sinner joins
the flock! wow.

>one more question (although i guess sherlyn would let us all know at the
>slightest hint :)  )  is there any rumour of an australian tour?
>please...let there be some justice in our world!!!!!

they have to come. they had such a good time here (esp in canberra) they
must realise it's worthwhile them coming. any other aussies out there know
tilley's in canberra. don;'t you think it would just be the most perfect
venue? of course they'd have to play about a dozen shows cos the venue is
so small and we would all want to see them multiple times!

helen

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subject:      seattle concert tickets

a friend and i have two tickets for the july 11 show at the picturesque
pier 62/63, but we've both been scheduled to work, dammit. we'll sell 'em
for what they cost us: $30 each.

if you're interested, please email steph at slr@p.tribnet.com or cheryl at
clr@p.tribnet.com.

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hey everyone--
are any of you interested in getting one of the target sampler kits?  i have a
few of them that i'm willing to sell...so, if you're interested, email me at
schroc01@stcloudstate.edu, and we'll talk. :)

thanks!
carrie schroeder

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heidi and bonnie,
i can totally relate to carpooling the kids and blasting the indigo
girls. i especially love it when the kids all sing along.
patt

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subject:      ppv

hey all, sorry to waste the bw but i was wondering if any of you out there
who recorded the june 06 ppv concert would be willing to make me a copy of
the videotape.  my cable company didn't carry the show and i would love to
see it.   i would be willing to pay $$  or trade or -?-

please email me privately and we'll work out the details.  thanks a bunch!!

--cheryl

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subject:      ig sighting on pbs

i was just watching the beginning of a tv show on pbs called "the visionaries",
and during the opening the theme music was a clip from "let it be me". walking
into the room by accident and hearing that was a wonderful indigo moment that
i thought everyone would appreciate. i'm sure the program will be repeated, so
check your local listings and you, too, can experience a moment of random
bliss. *g*
kirsten

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i don't know if this has been metioned yet, but i just noticed in this week's
rolling stone (issue rs 764/765).....
the girls' new album is listed as #9 on the alternative albums' chart!
if you missed it, it's understandable.... this issue of stone has the spice
girls on the cover!!!!!!
~~robin
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subject:      alright, alright....where i was..... (here i is!!)

i first read about indigo girls in a little article in rolling stone.  i must
have been intrigued by what the author said, 'cause i ran out the next day
and bought "indigo girls".
i didn't even have a cd player at the time, so i had to wait till the next
day at work to listen to it!
my friend billy finelli, who considered himself to have good taste in real
bands (as opposed to "bubble gum bands") was very inpressed with my
selection.  he taped the cd for me so that i could listen to it at home.  i
turned all my friends on to it.  i ruled 'cause i already knew all the words!
i caught the girls live in tampa (escorted by mr. finelli) shortly after that
and from there the rest is history (herstory?).
~~robin
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subject:      ig moment at the mall today!!!!

i was in a store in the mall trying to decide whether to buy a really neat
shorts outfit and i was in the dressing room hem-hawing.

all of a sudden i received an omen from the powers above, in the form of
tried to be true on the store's sound system.  and not nasty muzak either -
the real thing!!!!

i bought the outfit  :)

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
can you show me now that i will not be killed in vain,
show me just a little of your omnipresent brain!
show me there's a reason for your wanting me to die,
you're far too keen on where and when and not so hot on why!
-amy as jesus, "the garden of gethsemane"
from jesus christ super-star: a resurrection
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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subject:      re: where were you?

hmmmmm. . ..
i would say i was sitting in the backseat of my friend's car, being ignored,
while galileo was playing.  i recognized it as a song that was played on the
radio, but my friend clarified the group. . . i am appalled to admit i had
never heard of them.  i was then a sophomore in high school.  i fell in love
with rop, and was one of the first to buy swamp ophelia.  it just surprises
me that it took me so long to notice them!!!

have a great day/night,
sara lynn

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hello all, love this thread,

i first heard the indigo girls in march of 1989. i had just broken up
with my girlfriend, had a lot of free time on my hands and was watching
videos when ctf came on. i bought it the next day and fell in love with
it immediately. little did i know how important they would become in my
life. the breakup i mentioned was a strange one in that the girl in
question shut me out for about three months and when we finally broke up
she never had a reason. then all my friends vanished from my life when i
needed them most. its hard to grieve alone. my best friend of 22 years
wouldn't even spend anytime with me, what was going on??? i felt like a
leper. finally in june i found out what had happened, my ex-girlfiend
was now with going out with my best friend, no wonder i was so isolated,
we shared a group of friends and i was the one that was excommunicated.
once the truth came out my fiends and i made amends and got on with
life. i did go over the edge trying to deal with what had happened
between my best friend and i, he was seeing my ex before we broke up. i
would have thought 22 years as friends would have entitled me to the
truth from the start. amyray, the cd never left the car stereo for over
a year. when i was depressed i would get in the car, turn on the girls
and drive and sing and laugh and cry, all very healthy. i remember
driving to a cottage that summer with a friend and after hearing it once
when i asked her if she wanted to hear something else, she said no! we
listened to it for six hours each way. she loves them now too.

the girls have saved my life in many ways. i once went through a
suicidal phase in my life, listening to their music was the only thing
that kept me going, kept me alive, long enough to get the help i needed.
i love all that they represent, they infuse joy into others lives and
are a positive in world where negatives get too much attention.

i hope that wasn't too heavy compared to all the camp stories. i might
have an extra ticket for the second lillith fair show in toronto if
anyone is interested, just waiting to hear back from one final person.
its in the 12th row. if anyone is interested mail me.

feel free to share as much as you want to, mark

p.s. i was best man at their wedding, funny little world this.

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where was i!?? wow i know yall are all sick of hearing this, but here is
my history....

ok, it is spring break of 1996 and i am on a church trip to disney
world! wow i am on a major long bus ride! so there is this girl sitting
next to me and she is kinda new to the youth group and all. so you know
how it goes, you bring music into the conversation and look through each
others cd wallets or music collection.  she had this cd which i came
upon, it was called indigo girls "swamp ophelia".  i said "hey i have
heard of them are they good?" she said, yea they are great, that is one
of my favorite albums. i was like, "they have more??" not knowing
anything about ctf or anything. so i poped the cd in my player and
listend to it. oh wow i  loved the harmony and all the great guitar
music quality! my favorite song that i thought that was just "wow" was
"reunion", i (being a big choir buff) knew about the talent in harmony,
and when they hit that harmony interlude i was hooked!:-) now that is
all i listen to practically! all my friends are always asking me if i
ever listen to anything else.!:o)! oh well, i guess they do not have the
love for them like we do!:o)!
thanks for the memories!
brett
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a bottle to me, and it was my rebirth!"
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> emily: and everyone is listening to this concert on their computers...
> took me two weeks to turn my computer on!!
> (audience laughs)
> emily: <no clue what she says here> (she says 2 words that i can't make out
> cuz my version is  fuzzy)
> (audience breaks into loud laughter/whooping)
> amy: i just figured out what you meant! so that's what i've been doing
> wrong with mine <she says more but i can't make it out> (and i lose the
> ending)...

i haven't listened to the hte boot in a while but i am pretty sure emily
says "save everything" or "save often" -- it's save [something]. if you
listen again you'll probably figure it out based on the syllables of the
second word. i'm too lazy to get that boot out and find the exact spot,
sorry. of course if i'm wrong someone will jump in and say so.

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ok, so that's not gramatically  correct...but i want to let
everyone/anyone know that i have three tickets to the jacksonville, oregon
concert monday july 7 (i think at 7 or 8 pm).  $23 each, lawn (general
admission).
if you're wondering where jacksonville is, it's near the border of oregon
and california (very south oregon), off of the 5 fwy, a few miles from
medford, oregon.  it's also near ashland (home of the reknown shakespear
festivals and great skiing, i hear).
the venue only seats something like 2700 or something outrageously small
like that. =)
please let me know if you want them, so i can mail them to you.

that's all folks!

seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu

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well i have wondered this for ages--what exactly is a bandwidth and why
are people always wasting(that looks spelled wrong though i don't think
it is) it?  that's all, back to ig stuff--oh yeah, for the lyricists
thing--i think shawn mullins should be in there too in mho--tricia

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subject:      (nigc) a deprived childhood?

this shout goes out to tigger, whom i feel had the same awful experiences at
girl scout camp....

(btw i love this whole where were you thread..it just ::sniffle:: hits me
right there!)

we sang "kumbaya" alot but there were also those cool songs like "a
rigabamboo" and a really neat one about a billboard screwed up by a terrible
storm and one about a "wifflewaffer" and they were pretty funky..otherwise
camp was awful...cleaning latrines, getting up early, wearing the same
clothes because the camp counselors said it was too cold to wear shorts and i
only brought one sweatsuit..whoops! sorry! no need to get into, like,
repressed childhood memories and stuff...

sorry for the nigc, just was feeling a little slighted!

all my love, celeste

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subject:      re: best lyricists :)/guilty pleasures

i dont know about the best, because i have this pervading feeling that at the
tender age of sixteen, my musical interests have been severely stunted by the
presence of cheezy 50s and 60s teenybopper music around the house but ani
difranco's lyrics always hit straight at my heart (she seems to be so honest)
and billy joel has had some really interesting songs....

i propose a new thread, just out of complete curiousity
do any of ya out there listen to any artists who you would be a little wary
of telling people you enjoy? i recently learned that some of a lot of my
indi-rock and folk friends listen to...the bone thugz n harmony and when i
chuckled a bit they completely defended them, a bit embarrassed...i'll
start--billy joel and smashing pumpkins

remember, all of this will be kept completely confidential, right everyone?

i hope i hear from some other people so i dont feel completely silly, okay?

sincerely, anonymous (aka celeste)

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cool thread...

haven't jumped in before this because i couldn't quite remember where i
heard the ig for the first time until now.  summer of '89 my best
friend(who is no longer a fan of a&e, much to my dismay =0) plays ctf for
me and of course, we listen to ctf over and over for the rest of the summer
. with things being the way they are, and me having the worst taste in
music, excluding the ig naturally <g>,  i go back to listening to stuff
like dead or alive.."you spin me round" (anybody remember that? :-p), wait
it gets worse...nelson...milli vanilli....vanilla ice..and horror of
horrors lisa lisa & cult jam with full force <---what was i thinking?!

anyway...fast forward to 1994.  i'm a buyer for a video/music store and i
get a special order from a customer for swamp ophelia so i bring in a few
copies.  when the order comes in i see that the swamp cd is in one of those
funky  cardboard cases so i buy it 'cause i want to see what the difference
is in the packaging.  yup, i was reintroduced to the ig because of the much
maligned digipak <g>. so i listen, i like, i obsess...i order everything
else that they have out the following month.  the digipak has a special
place in my heart for all eternity =)

that's my story...who's next?

-karen

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hi everyone! <--false cheeriness. i'm pre-coffee this morning.


here's the info for the second jam.

http://members.tripod.com/~dyke/indigojam.html

if any of ya'll will be in the boston area, come jam with us! = ) have a
good thursday. weekend's almost here.

-liz-

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hi listers,
wow, it's been a long lurking summer so far.  i have been working since
the third day of finals week way back when ;-), so suzie cheesehead love
of my life, sorry i haven't written, will do so soon.  this "where was i?"
thread just has to suck me back in...
so my sister and brother went to church camp a lot, and cathy (my sis)
bought "the indigo girls" cd sometime in the fall of 1990, while i was a
freshman at the university of missouri.  that fall, i met a woman at our
honors college picnic...she was so wonderful.  we became close friends
very soon afterwards.  i didn't quite understand why i liked her so much,
i mean jeez, she was a woman, you know?  hmmmmmmm!
over winter break, i was down in our "music room" playing nintendo with my
sister and brother, and cathy put on the indigo girls cd.  as soon as i
heard michael stipe on kid fears, i was hooked.  since i didn't have any
money or a cd player, i had to sneak down to listen to the cd over and
over.  my brother, who was in sixth grade at the time, got way sick of the
girls, but now is a big fan.  anyway that's another story...when i was
listening to it over spring break, being home again, i had a slightly
clearer understanding of every song on it.  i'd heard they were lesbians,
and it made total sense to me, because every love song they played made me
think of thara.  of course they were lesbians!  but not me...oh no...

a funny corollary to this story is that my sister was at that time a big
youth person in the episcopal church in kc (and my brother is now).  i
was a big atheist, but of course queer-friendly (and scared to death that
i might be queer).  so cathy and i were sitting around discussing the
girls one day and she said, in a voice of disgust, "did you know they were
lesbians?"  i said, "yeah, but did you know they were christians?" in the
same tone.

i could link every song on ig, sf, nis, and rop to thara, who was straight
(though the coolest straight woman i've ever met), and my coming out
process.  wow.  although the ig aren't the ones perpetually in my stereo
anymore (dar williams and ani tend to have slightly higher play time at
the moment), i have to remember how much they helped me come out, how much
comfort i got from whistling "ghost" to myself, crying, while tearing
apart computer-generated insurance claims at my mom's office.

and that concludes another "where i was"--a finished basement room with
shag carpeting, in a blue "captain's chair," with the family dog on my lap
and a nintendo control in hand for tetris...one of the best experiences of
my life.  :-)

thanks for starting this thread!!!

love to all of you especially lisa binkster suzie b. etc. you  rock my
world,
running to catch a bus to work,
love
suzi

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on wed, 25 jun 1997, j tigger kickliter wrote:

> i was in a store in the mall trying to decide whether to buy a really neat
> shorts outfit and i was in the dressing room hem-hawing.
> all of a sudden i received an omen from the powers above, in the form of
> tried to be true on the store's sound system.  and not nasty muzak either -
> the real thing!!!!
> i bought the outfit  :)
>
i was at mcdonald's by the office today trying to decide if i wanted a
mcchicken sandwich or a mcdouble mccheese.

suddenly, the divine indigoddess that watches over me sent me a sign in
the form of an angry mother. i heard a mother say to her young son, "let
it be!" (as in, "put that down!"). that reminded me of let it be me, and
so i bought the mcdouble mccheese.

i know that no one else besides indigonads would even give this amazing
coincidence the time of day!

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at: "http://ucunix.san.uc.edu/~vogelap"     "the only way out is through."
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okay, for my third nigc post in two days...

all you smarty pantses who keep mailing me and saying "sus, there are six
strings on a gutar!"...umm....yah! i know that. i have the danged thing in my
hands. i was trying to be funny...but it didn't work. since i am usually
borderline gut-bustin hilarious, i think you kids could forgive me just this
once.

yeeks! back to igc. i'm a bad little one. gotta get back to learning the guitar
with six strings

;)

sus
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ok, i couldn;t resist either, maybe because i didn't want to admit that i
haven't been a fan since i was a fetus, or that there was a time in my
life when i listened to air supply and bryan adams...(gag!  if you knew my
parents you'd understand...)

anyway, when i was a sophomore or freshman is highschool, i went through
some seriously bad times, and used to drive around with my aunt who was
just getting sober, and we would talk and talk andtalk, and listen to
music.  one day as we drove around that hotbed of liberal activity that is
concord nh (sarcasm folks) out of her stereo came the strains of 'land of
canaan'.  i loved it, and had her tape the whole album, as well as n*i*s
for me (i have since bought the discs, don't worry) and i soon owned rop
and listened to nothing else for a good long while.

i went to my first ig concert at unh, earth day '94.  i owe their music a
lot, it has connected me with many of the people most special to me, and
brought me through some tough times.

another question:  what was your most (or one of) special ig related
moment/experience?
my most recent was at gw, standing with three of my most wonderful friends
all hugging and teary during 'hey kind friend'.

thanks for all the stories!

jennie

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that emptiness brings fullness,
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hi everyone

could anyone tell me who the song "wild horses" is by and whether it is
available on an album. i have a bad version on a boot, but i would really
like to get a good version of the song.

thanks
peace
-kay

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subject:      houston show

good morning ig land!
as i am sipping on my coffee w/ my eyes barely open, still enjoying the
afterglow of last night's performance at the woodlands- i am trying to
remember the set list <banging head> as you would expect the show was
excellent!
i had 3 rd row in the pit,center and the view was awesome.  amy wore a light
blue shirt w/ peach colored jeans, emily wore  blue jeans w/ a tee and a
striped long-sleeved shirt over the tee.  they opened up w/ the wood song
and closed w/  ctf.  i was in heaven , they played some of the older
tunes..........crazy game, tried to be true, three hits.  i noticed they
didn't play "it's alright", tho and  i kinda missed that one.

and of course, lift opened for them.  i highly recommend them!!!!!  i
thought they were excellent!!!!  cute too<blush>

i am sure you'll get better and more informative reviews than mine, just
thought i'd share.  i am so tired and i had to get up @ 5:30 to come to work
<ugh>

basking in the indiglow............................

kris

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hey y'all....

i can't resist this thread, though i sound like grandma here...

1989. my senior year in college. we used to have a concert every year
just before graduation. it was basically the social event of the year
apart from the mushroomfest that took place on the last night of
classes.

there was a very good singer at that concert, singing this beautiful
song i'd never heard. i was running lights, so i saw umpteen rehearsals
and every time she got to the part about 'i spent four years prostrate
to the higher mind,' all us seniors would shout out got my paper now
i'm free. we did it at the concert too, and the whole audience, which
was below and in front of us, jumped up to see who was doing the
screaming.

no, it wasn't emily singing, by the way. but i fell in love with the
song, and asked the woman who sang it where it was from. she gave me a
tape, which i have to admit, in all the fuss and bother of graduation
and going home to england (i was in the us) i didn't listen to.

cut to the next year. heartbroken me, sitting in my awful flat in
camberwell trying to get over a really lousy breakup. thinking of better
times i dig through this box of stuff that i brought home from
university. dig out the tape. put it on.

oh my god they're singing about me!!!

i'm serious about that. it was like someone finally understood. and i
had gone to paris to forget her face (though not to switzerland) and i
was sitting there looking over ledges, etc, etc.

just as an aside tho - i didn't know what i had there - my friend was
from athens and it was the two indies. the tape literally wore out years
ago, and i threw it away, because i knew i could buy the albums on cd.
then i went to buy them and realised they weren't the same, but it was
too late. sigh. i even learned to play guitar just so i could play
'left me a fool'. (which took about a year and a half and i'd
swear sometimes emily has six fingers on her left hand.)

so now i live in prague and for you other ukers complaining you can't
get albums, etc, well the girls don't and probably never will play here.
sigh. and my brother bought shaming of the sun for me cause they don't
have it here and he still hasn't sent it, the little creep.

but... i was in the states last year and i do have a lot of fringe
ig-ers stuff on cd (and bootlegs) which i will happily tape and send to
anyone who is willing to send me one of those promos they were giving
away at borders.

nice to meet y'all by the way.
stevie

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well, looks like it's time for my annual reposting of the following definiton
from the jargon file 4.0.0 <http://www.ccil.org/jargon>:
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bandwidth /n./

   1. used by hackers (in a generalization of its technical meaning) as
   the volume of information per unit time that a computer, person, or
   transmission medium can handle. "those are amazing graphics, but i
   missed some of the detail -- not enough bandwidth, i guess." compare
   low-bandwidth. 2. attention span. 3. on usenet, a measure of network
   capacity that is often wasted by people complaining about how items
   posted by others are a waste of bandwidth.
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of course, 3 applies to mailing lists as well as usenet.
kirsten

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subject:      dylan, hendrix, and those girls

in a message dated 97-06-25 18:17:43 edt, you write:

>  well, a few months later, after i hung my [poem/song], i finally heard
>       bob dylan's version on the radio one afternoon.  i was surprised i
>       could actually make out the words from him (it must have been earlier

>       in his career), but i realized the ig version is much, much better.

hmm... i suppose... hey, i haven't actually heard "all along the watchtower"
by the girls.  now, i know dylan's version isn't anything to get excited
about, but do they really compare to hendrix's version, the one that dylan
said was the "definitive version"?

thesfc

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date:         thu, 26 jun 1997 08:41:14 -0500
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i know about a week or so ago someone posted the hard rock live air date as
being aug 24th, but the ig web site is listing it as aug 30th. before you
get all excited about that and start sending out invitations for your
viewing parties, keep in mind that the 30th is a saturday and new versions
of the show always air on sunday. bottom line: don't print your invitations
just yet.

deb

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subject:      re: fans of dylan on the list (minimal igc)

in a message dated 97-06-25 20:12:15 edt, you write:

> dylan was for me what ig were for many on this list:  the one that
>  opened the door.

me too, basically (actually it was the cure, but hey).  that's why i posted
originally about dylan.  i was guessing that he was an influence on a few
people on the list.

>  then, around 1971, i started listening to "underground" radio, and
>  heard bob dylan's 115th dream, a very funny, but not overly serious
>  song.

weird, i've been listening to that song constantly recently...

>  i've learned to love many musicians since then, but the music
>  of bob dylan still blows me away.

me too definitely... highway 61 was my first dylan album, and i can't say
that i've ever bought an album that so completely overwhelmed me like that
one did.  swamp ophelia was my first ig album, and i was definitely moved
greatly, but dylan definitely inspired me the most.

thesfc

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date:    97-06-25 22:18:39 edt
from:    atlmouse
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i first read about indigo girls in a little article in rolling stone.  i must
have been intrigued by what the author said, 'cause i ran out the next day
and bought "indigo girls".
i didn't even have a cd player at the time, so i had to wait till the next
day at work to listen to it!
my friend billy finelli, who considered himself to have good taste in real
bands (as opposed to "bubble gum bands") was very inpressed with my
selection.  he taped the cd for me so that i could listen to it at home.  i
turned all my friends on to it.  i ruled 'cause i already knew all the words!
i caught the girls live in tampa (escorted by mr. finelli) shortly after that
and from there the rest is history (herstory?).
~~robin
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subject:      re: best lyrics:-p

in a message dated 97-06-26 02:39:20 edt, you write:

> > > in a message dated 97-06-24 23:01:07 edt, dan writes:
>  > > << for my money the best lyricists in music would be:
>  > >  bob dylan
>  > >  joni mitchell
>  > >  amy ray
>  > >  emily saliers
>  > >  joan baez >>
>  > > (you guessed it ;) laura nyro, who wrote some of the most beautiful
>

geesh, i'm the one who started this... and some of the best lyrics i know
come from none other than that funky duo they might be giants.


"i'm your only friend, i'm not your only friend, but i'm a little glowing
friend, but really i'm not actually you're friend, but i'm..."

thesfc

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subject:      gift of time update 6/26
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okay you cool ones out there. guess how many hours we are up to today??
one thousand two hundred and sixty-four!!!!!!!

sorry, just a little excited about all this. will try to calm down (why??).
i should hear from russell's office by tomorrow. but the certificate will
probably be still a little un-ready until friday evening. (i see an
all-nighter coming on-i thought you didn't have to do that after grad.
school!) .

so there is still time to volunteer!

last minute volunteer ideas: go help that neighbor across the street whose
garage is a mess; offer to take her kids to the playground; buy that kid
who sleeps on the street a small cuddly toy; if you see someone with a sign
asking for work, invent some for him and feed him well; go to the
neighborhood food bank and offer to stack cans for an hour or two-they
always need help with that stuff; call up that friend who has been
depressed for a while and listen to him talk for half an hour; buy some
plants and offer to plant them in your elderly neighbor's yard; show up at
someone's door with a bouquet (no your sweetie doesn't count!); greet that
person who moved across the street with names and phone numbers of your
favorite repair people...be creative!!!

also want to mention quickly that in order to not confuse everybody by
having two separate gifts from the list, the gift of time will be presented
as a gift "from those you have inspired with your music and your message",
and i will probably go ahead and present it to the indigo girls rather than
just emily. amy has had quite an impact on our lives too (and i don't just
mean toaster ovens either:) ). this way, we can present billing's house
donations as em's birthday gift from the list, and the gift of time as a
"thank-you-for-what-you-do" gift. hope this is okay with those who
volunteered.

keep the hours rolling in guys, this is lookin' good!


urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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x-to:         asl@umcs.maine.edu

in a message dated 97-06-25 19:24:27 edt, asl@umcs.maine.edu (michael
reynolds) writes:

<< get a clue, get a life and get used to much more scrutiny than this list
put you
through if you plan on being any type of professional writer, too bad your
lesson had to be learned on a list where the people are *far more* willing
to help than most places on the net.

mike r.
  >>

this response really pisses me off.  you have no idea what is even going on.
she's not upset because of what people on this list was saying about her
writing the book.  she's upset because of the games someone was playing with
her.  your post was pretty mean and uncalled for.

janeen

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<lurker mode off>

hi all--

we were a little too excited at the bass a couple of weeks ago.  we have
2 general admission and 1 reserved in sec d row 4, both for july 5th,
both at cost.  please contact my buddy heather [abbzug@aol.com] if
interested.

thank you and see ya there

michael

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hi all,

if you are going to the friday show at the backyard and would like to
meet after the show, some of us are going to meet at kerby lane cafe on
south lamar in south austin. this is a pretty cool place and is open
24hrs. hope to see y'all out there.

peace,

dan perkins
post-episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
bassist/singer/songwriter

"i am a lonely road and i am traveling
looking for the key to set me free."
               -joni mitchell

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well, hello there fellow listers.  i've found myself lurking for the
past few weeks
b/c i didn't check my e-mail for a few days <fill in the appropriate
gasp here>

i love the new threads and i had to respond to one of them in
particular:

my best ig conversion:

as a lot  of you know i just got out of the israeli army.  my roomate,
yafit,
wasn't fluent in english and she would constantly yell at me for
blasting
my ig on the stereo.  i respected her requests (well, as much as
possible)
and wouldn't scream the lyrics at the top of my lungs while she was
around...

*fast forward a few months*

our students had a talent show and two of the girls sang lc.  all the
way
back to our apartment, yafit was singing subconsiously.
she later asked me who it was and couldn't believe that she had ever
actually yelled at me for playing their music...
from that moment on, yafit and i would sing ig together, leaving the
staff in
bewilderd awe and the students thinking that we were too cool to be
counselors...
rotflol!!!

i promised yafit that come hell or high water...she would get to an ig
concert
this year so i the night of pnc <insert cheezy part here--prepare you're
barf bags>
i called her up and told her that i was going but i'd take this picture
of the two
of us (on a road trip) so that she could be there as well.  she
shrieked!!!

well, i guess that's enough cheezy-ness for one morning.  i'll try and
post something
of greater ig content later

ruthie <--- sitting at home b/c she twisted her ankle and can't go to
work
*finishing up the tape for liz and smoking a cig for her ;-q*
lol

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y'all please bear with me as i post all this gift stuff to the list. just a
few more days and then you wont have to read all this.:)

several people who said they wanted to be a part of the project have not
yet responded (probably because they are busy!). but i still need
information from the following individuals and if your name is in here,
please email me with relevant details.

(hours = h, organization = o, city = c, name = n)

amy rush  (h o)         andy b  (h, o)                          boilrmkr@bu.edu (h, o, c, n)
ems420@aol.com(h, o, c, n)      leah beth kaplan (h o c n)              l.braslow@genie.com
(h, o c)
lisa nordeen (h)                mavrikminx@aol.com (h, o, c, n)         renee l. grebe ( c )
sari laufer (h)                 stacey l. vamvas (h, o, c, n)           tamara graff (c)

hours so far: 1270 and counting!!!!

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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someone mentioned somethiing about an article a couple of days ago that was
about amy's personal life and was supposed to be about daemon records or
something.  i guess it was posted about the time my computer was sick.
would it be possible that someone still has it and could send it to me?
does anyone have the letter she wrote back about the whole thing also?  i
feel kind of left out when people talk about that (it's been mentioned a few
times)  and i have no idea what it is.  thanks.........
______________________________________________________

"don't critisize what you can't understand."  b.dylan
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-kate

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hey, dead or alive were cool.  i danced in my little trench coat and combat
boots spinning "like a record, baby." <g> now milli vanilli....they're
another story. ;)
lisa


>date: thu, 26 jun 1997 00:49:46 -1000
>from: "k. asiu" <kla@aloha.net>

>. with things being the way they are, and me having the worst taste in
>music, excluding the ig naturally <g>,  i go back to listening to stuff
>like dead or alive.."you spin me round" (anybody remember that? :-p), wait
>it gets worse...nelson...milli vanilli....vanilla ice..and horror of
>horrors lisa lisa & cult jam with full force <---what was i thinking?!
>


"the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less
seriously, it's only life afterall." --emily saliers

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hello..:)
i've only been a member of this list for about 4 days now, and i guess a
good way to start would be to give my story of "where were you" though i
haven't read the faq yet, i don't think i'll be writing anything too
different from anyone else, and nothing offensive either.

well, my story is a little different from everyone elses and i guess that's
because i'm much younger.. i mean in 1989, i was still in elementary school,
and not many of us listened to ig :)

it was 1994 and i was riding in the car with my aunt kelly. she puts a tape
in the tape deck and told me i might enjoy this. i was only 13 at the time
and i didn't really think i listened to the same things as her, so i just
looked out the window and tried thinking about things to ignore it.. but the
lyrics and melody swept me away, i couldn't possibly ignore it any longer. i
asked her to rewind that "mountains" (ctf) song so we could hear it again
and she ended up letting me borrow the tape. i've been in love with their
music everyday for 3 years (much less than anyone here..heh).

kind of short, but that's my story..
thanks for reading this far! take care, and be good!

mikaela

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subject:      re: where were you?

in a message dated 97-06-26 01:06:48 edt, jcyr@mit.edu (joan m. cyr) writes:

<<
oh my gawd!  someone out there knows bobby sherman besides me?  "...hey
little woman please make up your mind you've got to come down from that
cloud girl and leave your world behind!  c'mon now! na na na na na na na na
na na, you've got to ...."  whoo hoo!  somebody stop me!
  >>

that's ok, joni. i'm 38, old enough to remeber bobby sharman, and those
lyrics popping up on my screen gave me a serious flashback.

it also brought a giggle, because it reminded me of how all the girls were
crushed out on bobby sherman, while i was crushed out on lori partrdige. talk
about the beginning of self-awareness.

karen
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"if it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?"

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well, i have to say that 'camp' is not a big nz tradition, besides i
would have been too old :-) and we don't have mtv! fade back to 92/93:

a girl i was crazy about told me about this group which sang a song
about re-incarnation, which suited her mood at the time. next time
she came around she brought the cd with her, and we listened to it.
there was something so haunting and catchy about the lyrics and
harmonies, so i refused to let her take it back, and borrowed it for
a week. i was hooked, and soon thereafter bought rop for myself, and
then over the years ig, so, nis, 1200c, and botby.

there's something so beautiful about the music, it appeals to everyone:
i soon had my sister, mother, friends, and so on all listening. i always
have some of their cds in my car or bedroom.

i went to see them live in auckland in jan for the (end of?) the so tour.
it was just the two of them (with sara lee on bass), yet they filled the
hall with musical richness and presence. amy was going through guitars at
a huge rate, strings popping and breaking, often replacing it 2-3 times
per song. an incredibly long version of chickenman, complete with intro
story about yard sales. really amazing!

well, i'm working in canada now, so i hope to catch the girls at one of
the toronto or montreal concerts. maybe see some of you there,

take care all,
john.

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hey, ya'll.  i sold the jacksonville oregon tickets already, but
apparently kirsten (andrade@az.com)  may have one... contact her, k?

thanks ya'll...just cuz! =)
seona
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subject:      hello and a quick ig moment

i've been reading the list for a while now and just had to say hi for the
first time and share a little ig moment that brightened up my day!  i love
the girls; they are my absolute favorite band of all time.  my first show
will be at red rocks and i am slobbering to go ( i know...i have to carry a
bucket around with me every time i think about it, which is constantly.)

anyway, i was reading stephen dobyns' new book, church of the dead girls
(weird kinda bad karma name, huh?) and at one point a character is listening
to the indigo girls!  it wasn't that great of a book so i got really excited
when i saw their name...
at least something cool came out of the experience!

by the way; i would really like to know what the gift of time is all about;
can anyone enlighten me?  too late to jump on?

thanks,
susan

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x-cc:         ll8404@aol.com, grlchasr26@aol.com

hello,,

i just wanted to reassure people that my book/manuscipt is not on amy ray's
life. my foci is not on that in the chapters it covers other avenues..please
try not to jump to conclusions without gathering all the data..im a
psychologist so concentrating on her personal life is not my concern..i have
enough clients lives to focus on..

timothy 1:7
for god did not give you a spirit of timidity but of power, of love, and
self-discipline..

"gentle souls go in peace"

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date:         thu, 26 jun 1997 13:30:13 -0400
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thanks you for your info on that site i love it..

its: www.yvwiiusdinvnohii.net

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hello kind friends,

i've been reading all the "where were you?" messages and i just want
to say that its great to finaly find people who feel the power and
beauty of the girls  the same way i do.  thanks for your stories.

mark

"...you can stand there and agonize til your agony's your heaviest
load,...you'll never fly as the crow flies, get used to a country
mile,...when you're learning to face the path at your pace
everychoice is worth your while..."

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hello again!

just to add to my earlier post, i called kgsr and they'll be in the studio
at 11:00 am.


indigo smiles,
amy

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hey kind friends!

        unfortunately, i don't think they played that one last night, but
they did a great set, nonetheless!! :)
        i didn't write down the setlist, but here's my recollection :o
they opened with the wood song.  other songs (not necessarily in order) were
-- prince of darkness, get out the map, dgtgag, chickenman (w/ mr. buzzard
soc and dave ellison on harmonica), three hits, crazy game, everything in
it's own time, cut it out, least complicated, scooter boys (w/ new soc at
end and an intense guitar jam finishing the song! :), leeds, galileo,
bmhawk, and of course, closer to fine.
        i didn't remember tried to be true...(hmmmm...must have been on a
beer run :o)
        they generally played straight through from one song to the other
with virtually no banter, but they were in the zone musically!!  i've never
seen a tighter performance...virtually flawless and intense.  amy *only*
broke two strings!
        i missed lift, but they played on bmhawk and closer.  from my third
row vantage point i noticed that both molly bancroft and the bass player are
extremely cute!! (hi kris! ;)
        i took two friends to the show who had never seen the girls before.
there's nothing like a live concert to make *true believers*!
        i sat with kris lewis, her spousal unit (who_loves_ig concerts :o),
stacy and my two friends.  i also saw jen hall, lisa cuevos, lisa johnson,
and christy!
        during leeds a big bug (probably a june bug) flew into emily's mouth
:o  of course, she had to momentarily stop the song, and said, "man, did
y'all see that big bug that just flew into my mouth!"...and then she
continued right on :)
        amy looked tired and not feeling well.  she looks like she lost at
least 10 lbs. since last month at chastain park :o  as always, though, she
poured every ounce of her energy into the performance.  i guess their
grueling tour schedule is taking it's toll...
        but emily seemed very relaxed and upbeat and i swear that some of
her guitar solos are mesmerizing, almost hypnotic!!
        both women were dressed cool...  amy was not wearing the black
polyester pants and wide-lapel shirt, both of which i dislike.  instead she
was wearing some really old, faded red jeans with ink spots on most of the
pockets and a ripped left knee.  she had a very nice blue short-sleeved
shirt with a nice southwestern style pattern on it.  oh, and amy also wore
that beautiful, melt your heart smile at several times during the night!! :) :)
        emily wore jeans and a light blue shirt w/ white trim and a striped
shirt.

        dgtgag has been my favorite song live...amy puts so much of herself
into that song -- swinging her hips and stomping wildly, contorting her face
and scrunching up her nose...it sends shivers down my spine!! :o :)
regarding the won/one debate: i have to beleive that amy is singing "already
won" (at least most of the time) b/c of the inflection in her voice and the
manner in which the line is delivered.  just my 2-cents.

        josh segal is awesome!!!  he has improved tremendously in the past
month, even though he *was* great at chastain too.  his big guitar solo at
the end of dgtgag is fantastic, but he plays everything well...fiddle,
mandolin, bass clarinet...and he sings too!!  wow! :)

        so me, kris, stacy?, lisa and lisa are caravaning to austin tomorrow
to see the girls at the backyard!!!!  i can hardly wait! ;)  we're on the
road to austin.... :) :)
looking forward to seeing trant, linda, margot, heather, and all you other
wacky sadomasochistic types!!! ;) :o

        btw if you haven't made a $5.00 donation to billings house yet for
emily's birthday, now would be a great time to do so!

        send your donation to:

>deb reiser
>3166 north 89th street
>milwaukee, wi 53222
>
>and write a message to emily for the card, including your email addy and
>send that to mandi martin,  mandi96@airmail.net

thanks y'all!
the poultryman
founder - yknib sssim fan club


i       tony, da chickenman - houston, texas, usa       g
n                                                       i
d       not content to bow and bend to the whims        r
i       of culture that swoop like vultures eating      l
g       us away to our extinction -  emily saliers      s
o

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hi kay~ (and list :)

        "wild horses" is a mick jagger/keith richards collaboration and i
beleive it can be found on the rolling stones'_sticky fingers_album (circa
1968-9).
        btw both amy and emily agreed that if they could have written any
song they both wish they would have written "wild horses" -- it's such a
great song!!  of course, the girls version wouldn't be the same if not for
michelle malone's spectacular voice!! :)

tony

at 08:37 am 6/26/97 -0500, you wrote:
>hi everyone
>
>could anyone tell me who the song "wild horses" is by and whether it is
>available on an album. i have a bad version on a boot, but i would really
>like to get a good version of the song.
>
>thanks
>peace
>-kay
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*where were you?
well, we told this story last year but there's a lot of new
listees and it's fun to read everyone's stories.

this one goes out to the ones i love :)
(guess whose is that,...)

i'm in the list  for aprox. 1 year and a half. and my
ig introduction (in fact, our ig-story bc we are two very big
ig-fans here in valència. monica... where are you??).

in 1994-5 i was, ans still i am, an huge rem fan. my rem hunger
had no limits and in 1 year i had extinguished with all their
official and part of their non-official releases. in that time
i had re-discovered tracy chapman, a huge writer also not mentioned
yet . so i was with the eyes open to look for new stuff.
logically my first sights were around rem-related artists
and ig was an acronym that has crossed my eyes several times
in the rem faq. i remember reading the faq and asking myself what
ig stood for. at the end i discovered the meaning, and i wrote
down 'indigo girls' in my must-look list.one day flying over the pages
of a music per catalogue sale shop , i noticed that familiar name
indigo girls: it was the swamp ophelia tape for 5 $. i had never
heard them but it was cheap and rem-related (by the way, here music
ist quite expensive:  cds cost $20-25 ). so i ordered the so tape
among other items: joni mitchell, stone temple pilots,.... when the
packet came, i thought: "the other items (beverley craven, stp,
barenaked ladies...) are at least a bit known and i've heard
something from them, but these (ig) i don't know them at all
and i've never heard them. i expected the worst of it, so i decided
"this will be the first thing to hear" ( disappointments first at the
beginning).so i put the so first while doing some homework. while
hearing the first two or three songs (as a background, not with
headphones)i thought: " ummm, it's quite fine." but also thinking:
"wait for the bad songs. i'm sure they are coming, you know: they
always do". but no, the bad songs didn't come and my interest
was increasing as long as the tape sounded.
that half surprised state fully ended when 'the wood song' came.
in that moment i thought: "no!!, it can't be true!!". i took the
headphones and heard that song again 4 or 5 times
. from that moment i stood more than two hours delighting
and discoreing that incredible music with the headphones
on. in that moment the shock-effect was terrible, i loved the whole
tape:
every song was a perfect to me. then, i phoned my cousin monica
and told her to come. she came and heard the so with me: she fell
in love with the tape too...

and that was just the beginning of the rest of our lives:
(timeline:)
- 2 weeks later: we ordered their official albums(rop,ig,nis & botbya)
from us ( here they are not available). you see: ig total fan crazyness
- 1 months later: we subscribed to the list (my e-mail overloaded
during the first 3 months and it had a very curious effect: i didn't
subscribe in more mail-list , even in the rem-list, til 3 months ago
bc i thought that i couldn't handle with such mail volume. for those
who are afraid of it, don't worry, this is the biggest , in mail
volume and in communnity sense, e-mail list that i know)
- 6 months later: trip to barcelona's collector fair to get collector's
stuff (quite good hunt)
- 8 months ago: we ordered the rest of their releases (1200cc,
watershed,jcs) and related (honour the earth,..) also from us.
even we bought a dual ntsc/pal video to avoid the conversions
problem .....
- last 6 months: an incredible growing of our tapes and videos list
til unveliable limits ;)

i also thank the ig not only for giving us that wonderful music, but
also for introducing us in another unbelievable band **k's choice**
which the last year has giving us such a great pleasure.
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my weekly k's choice bulletin info:!!

live chat july 7, 7:00pm est at sonicnet
http://www.sonicnet.com/sonicore/chat
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              fins després ( see you, in catalan), ferran

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"beat me up                             |ferran nogueroles d'oliveira
and smash my brand new tv              |       & monica soutto
to help me look for                    |    <maror@teleco.upv.es>
a little piece of paradise in me"      |universitat politecnica de valencia
        k's choice-'paradise in me'
valencia, the valencian land,(...still spain but not for too long )
europe
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hmm....people seem to be slowing down with the gift of time thing. is it
time for a pep talk?

we are now at one thousand, two hundred and ninety-five hours! this is
fantastic. so close to 1300 hours! but of course, we can't have 1300, that
might very well be an unlucky number. after all, the world is full of
triskadekaphobists who believe this.

i tell you what, let us just aim for 1350 hours for today's total. that is
just 55 more hours than what we already have.

anybody?? anyone??

i feel like a "smiler" on public tv soliciting in the middle of every one's
favorite show :)

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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hello y'all..

how did i first meet the indigo girls..by pure coincidence to be
exact and like a couple of years ago..i'm doing volunteers work at a
radio station which broadcasts into a hospital..yep..i'm a radio
announcer in my spare time..and i got home quite late, but wasn't really
into sleeping yet so i turned on the t.v..i didn't thought that there
would be much on it..but what do you do when you can't sleep right?? so
i zapped through some channels and indeed there was like totally nothing
on the t.v..untill i turned to the bbc and i was like this sounds good,
who are they??? turns out that there was a concert on from our beloved
indigo girls...i believe in the royall albert hall, but i'm not sure..so
i watched that entire show and i really, really loved it..i've been like
totally addicted ever since..

well, that's was my meeting with them..

peace,

yvonne

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hi all,

one more question for today.....what exactly is the "shaming of the sun"
digipack? i saw a place that had one, but i don't know what it is....

thanks for all the help with the "wild horses" question. y'all are great.

peace
-kay

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>
> hi all,
>
> one more question for today.....what exactly is the "shaming of the sun"
> digipack? i saw a place that had one, but i don't know what it is....
>
it's sots, same cd as in the plastic case, but in a cardboard case, like the
kind that some copies of swamp ophelia were sold in. if you haven't seen the
case, it's made from recycled (i think) cardboard, with a pocket on the front
cover to hold the cd booklet and a plastic panel on the inside to hold the cd.
the two editions are exactly identical except for the packaging, so if you
already have the jewel case, don't bother buying the other unless you're
someone who absolutely must have everything.
kirsten

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;;"i want to be a medical missionary. either that or a person who makes little;
;;girls' shoes that aren't silly."--lisa alther +---+ my other car is a cdr   ;
;;------------- http://gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu/~binkley/ --------------------+

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hey everybody. i have an extra ticket for the sunday show. its reserved in
section d. selling at face of course, let me know if you're interested.

derek

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subject:      intro/where were you...

hi--my name is karen carpino.  i'm originally from rochester, ny, but my
family moved to allentown, pa about 2 years ago.  i'm a junior english major
at loyola college in maryland.  i've been a huge fan of ig ever since i heard
them in freshman year of high school, thanks to my best friend, karen and
some counselors at camp stella maris in livonia, ny, who had an excellent
taste in music.  ctf was the first song i heard while i was at camp--then
karen played some of their other music for me, especially sylf and sf, and
there was no turning back.  those two and watershed and the wood song remain
my favorites, but i love the new stuff as well.

someone asked about suggestions for something to throw onstage.  the best
thing i ever came up with was in senior year of high school with my best
friends, karen and erin.  we made two bean bags (one for each of them) and
decorated them with beads and puffy paints and things, plus a quote for each
of them.  we sewed them by hand, with a little tag with each of our
addresses.  since it was a last minute plan, we ended up sewing them during
class and finished them the afternoon right before we left for the show.  i
was pretty impressed with how they turned out.

my own boot collection is practically non-existant (i only have a copy of a
recent show at hofstra u. for their sots demo tour) but i would love to trade
with anyone willing.  i'm especially interested in other releases that i have
not heard yet, like color me grey.  let me know.  my address at home is
indigo5@aol.com.  thanks!

peace, karen

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o-o-o- is someone going to record this?...i'm not anywhere near that area!
seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu


on thu, 26 jun 1997, amy teplow wrote:

> hello again!
>
> just to add to my earlier post, i called kgsr and they'll be in the studio
> at 11:00 am.
>
>
> indigo smiles,
> amy
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hey everybody,

i have succumbed to the urge as well, even though this is my first
posting. (gentle, s'il vous plait)  i waited, and waited, and waited to get a
feel for everything - well a whole week (but there were so many on this
topic), and so here's my two cents (a full two cents mind you).

the year was 1992, and i was doing some math lab or something with
this girl i just adored, when out of the blue she put on  this song "romeo
and juliet" by the girls.  i was like "that's that song by dire
straights.....right"  but about a thousand times better!!! (actually 1200
times better but who's counting)....  i started to realize there was life
beyond heavy metal and the latest grunge scene in my later teen
years...... and i soon bought the rop tape, which is still in my car (not the
same car) to this day.

now i have all the albums, but that first song and album will always mark
the beginning of a great realtionship between me and a & e.....
unbeknownst to them of course!        but on rop, i fell in love with their
rawness and basic/simple two-acoustic-guitar sound which i still enjoy
the most.  my first concert at radio city music hall was very much like
that as well~  just amy and emily with their acoustic guitars (except for
touch me fall- *killer version btw*) and their amazing voices...(right
after so came out)..... but that venue was just perfect for their beautiful
harmonies working together, with a gentle background of
music....wow!!!! ........... can you say heaven!!!!!

"and that was the beginning.......---" well, you know the rest....

thank you all for reading this little inkling about my life!!!!!!!

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subject:      not indigo related>info on eco-feminism?

has anyone ever heard of suzanne fageol, m.div. ? and do you know where i can
get info about her or in contact with her? she is a priest, a spiritual
director, a deep ecologist, and a feminist theologian..thank you

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        hi all,

        this is my first post to this particular list.  first, a bit
about myself:  i'm a 22-year old senior at ball state university, in
muncie, indiana.  i'm a recent ig convert.  i discovered ig when i was
performing solo acoustic gigs at a coffee shop on campus last year.
some friends of mine (i didn't know them at the time) were performing
the same nights as me, and they did mainly ig stuff.  (their name is
"those one chicks" which cracks me up.)  anyway, after seeing them
perform a few times, i went out and bought a few ig albums, and i've
been impressed a little more every time i hear them.  incidentally, i
perform the dire straits version of "romeo and juliet" when i play,
and i almost always play "down by the river" with the chicks, sitting
in for the lead guitar.  it's kinda funny -- r&j has always been one
of my fave songs, which i later discovered had been covered by one of
my future fave groups!  =)
        at any rate, i have tix for the lillith fair at deer creek
music centre here in august.  can't wait!   i'm also a huge fan of
sarah mclachlan and jewel (one of my faves).  that promises to be a
great show.  also, i'm seeing dave matthews this saturday!  woohoo!
the point is, i hope to tape these shows, so let me know if you're
interested in copies.  (of course, i have yet to make the tapes, so i
might be counting my proverbial chickens before they're hatched...)

        good to be on the list!
        ttyl,
        mike feeney             "...tangled up in blue..."

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date:         thu, 26 jun 1997 16:46:21 -0400
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subject:      re: the peoples path/native american site
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glad you liked it its  lady i somewhat know i log on to her bbs

on thu, 26 jun 1997 yougfemme@aol.com wrote:

> thanks you for your info on that site i love it..
>
> its: www.yvwiiusdinvnohii.net
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hi i'm also in search of someone to make me a copy it wasnt on my cable
company either.  thanks.

kira

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date:         thu, 26 jun 1997 16:22:34 -0500
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yesterday chris posted and voiced concerns about the birthday present to
emily and trying to make the gifts of time and money come together as
one.  he is right, and i sincerely apologize to all of you for not
getting things worked out sooner.  we have tried to combine these gifts
since chris's post, but urvashi is prepared to present the gift of time
this weekend at the dallas show on saturday and the billings house
project is in the middle of fundraising and everything won't be ready
until the red rocks show in late july.  because of this, the gifts will
have to be presented seperately.  we didn't want things to be confusing
to emily, so i talked everything over with urvashi and together we
concluded that the gift of time will be a gift to amy and emily from
"those inspired by your music" and the billings house project will be
the official birthday gift to emily from the list.  i have learned from
my mistakes and next year the gift of time will definitely be included
in the birthday project(s).  i take all the blame for this confusion.
any problems, concerns, or flames should be directed my way.

on a happier note, deb has informed me that the donations are nearing
$1200!!!!!  that's great, keep them coming in!  this present will mean
so much to emily, maybe not as much as her music has meant for all of
us, but just think how happy she will be to know that this community has
come together to raise money for this great cause.  the billings house
needs our support.  please help us show them how much we care.  please
help us make this birthday a great one for emily!  to join in, send your
donation to:

deb reiser
3166 north 89th st.
milwaukee, wi 53222

(checks and money orders made out to billings house, cash accepted,
those sending foreign currency contact me at mandi96@airmail.net)

i am making a list of people who contributed to this gift, if you would
like to be included on the list please send me your name, email address,
and your message to emily.

again, i am truly sorry for any confusion that i have caused concerning
these gifts.

love,
mandi

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date:         thu, 26 jun 1997 14:21:18 -0700
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has anybody found any ig bass music on the web or even in music stores?
i've figured out the music for fugitive and the first part of least
complicated but the bass is really hard to hear.

ciao
hollie

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i've been only marginally connected to the internet for nearly four weeks
and i'm desperately trying to catch up with all the recent indigo-mail,
so perhaps this has already been answered and i've missed it... if so, my
apologies for repeating an old subject:

  does anyone know if michelle malone been confirmed to open *both*
  indigo-shows in berkeley, july 5 & 6?  last i heard only one show
  had been confirmed.

    ----

in other sf bay area news, michelle malone *has* been confirmed to
open for melissa ferrick at the great american music hall, july 7.

on july 8, i will have 100 cd samplers of melissa ferrick's new cd,
which i will be passing out *free* at the lilith fair.... if anyone
here wants to reserve a copy, please let me know via *private* email.

john miller   <jmiller@wdl.lmco.com>
san jose ca

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for those new to the bay area, or visiting san francisco this weekend (i
know several visitors from this list), here's some info for pride fest.

this weekend is san francisco's gay pride festival, a 2-day celebration
of diversity within the gay community.  on saturday there will be free
music at justin herman plaza (market at embarcadero), from 11am to 6pm.

saturday night is the annual dyke march in the castro, scheduled to
begin at 7pm, starting near the safeway at market and 16th... last
year there were nearly 40000 women in attendence.

sunday is the pride parade, starting near the civic center, market & 8th
at 11am... the parade will take at least three hours, perhaps four, and
will proceed along market *east* to the embarcadero... those who arrive
too late to get good viewing along the parade route can usually find some
viewing space on the last block of market, or just around the corner where
the parade route turns south toward the parade terminus on mission...  one
block from the embarcadero.

following sunday's parade will be several hours of live music at justin
herman plaza, market and embarcadero.

i don't have the complete list of musicians scheduled to perform saturday
and sunday, but disappear fear is scheduled for at least one of those days.
complete schedules can be obtained at saturday's event.

one more thing... the entire parade will be televised again this year by
james gabbert's station, kofy, tv-20 (gabbert has televised the entire
parade ever since a lawsuit unintentionally 'outed' him three years ago).
public response to the televised parade has been very positive.  be sure
to set your vcr's before going to sunday's pride festival.

john miller   <jmiller@wdl.lmco.com>
san jose ca

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hey "kind" friends

     when i joined the list a few months ago, i was excited at the idea of a
mailing list composed solely of ig fans.  in the beginning it was pretty
cool, i got a lot of info about the girls, talked to fellow fans, and learned
about life in general.  now it seems as if the list should be called petty
argumetns @ netspace.com.  i can't believe how so-called ig fans can bitch
and flame and insult and argue about trivial matters for extended periods of
time.  i say so-called because it was my belief that people who like ig were
compassionate, open-minded, accepting, and kind.  this list has unfortunately
changed my opinion.  if i just joined the list last week, my first impression
would be that the members were a cruel, closed-minded, clique-forming,
mean-spirited bunch of people.  i think that if amy and emily joined the list
their opinions would sadly be similar to mine.  i'm signing off the list so
if anyone has any responses, email me privately if you want me to read them.
by the way, ndygotiggr, you are way too full of yourself.

susan

"it's too bad igorance isn't painful"

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from:         joey joe joe junior shabidoo <feiaj01@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu>
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dear anyone who cares and is not in a
moral quandry about whether to spread the ppv,

i have special bonus for anyone who trades a boot or two with me for the ig
pay-per-view concert. (cash is also accepted tender).  i will ammend on to the
end of the ig concert a half-hour concert by cat stevens from 1971 back before
he became yusef islam and advocated killing salman rushdie.  there is some
bitchin' animation on the end featuring teaser and the firecat riding the moon
around the world to the tune of "moonshadow."  i can also include, for anyone
who's interested, the girls' appearances on rosie and letterman.

i realize this won't make any difference to those of you not into cat, but i
have a feeling someone out there shares my affection.

please don't just reply to this letter--it will go to the wrong address.
rather, send any sparks of interest to "schroc01@stcloudstate.edu"

spores aplenty,
julie feia

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hey barb cool story...
i wish....=)

on tue, 24 jun 1997, you wrote
>
>    *******
>     amy:  "i'm always kickin' things over!"
>     emily:  "you're so rowdy!"
>     amy:  "sprawlin'... flailin'..."
>    *******
>

i was wondering, if anyone could tell me what boot this is on...i
don't think it's on any that i have...
thanks, any responses would be wonderful!
seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu

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i'm looking for anyone around olympia that is going to the concerts. i'm 16
and my mom said she would go with me but i don't think she's estatic about
the idea. i don't think she would be to excited about me going with someone
i don't know either. is there anyone out there my age going? i would be
able to drive. or if there is anyone out there that i know or my mom knows
that would be cool too. my mom is kay schultz (solomon) and she works for
l&i.

crossing my fingers,
hollie huthman

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thanks to trant (thanks trant - lovely things on the way) the video is here
and is currently being converted to pal.  can you let me know if you need
a copy.  mail to sandy@uow.edu.au - thanks.. just trying to sort out the
numbers - i am at about 30 at the moment.  if you have requested before -
please just drop a line reminding me (i have all addys and so on in a folder
but i like to be super sure).

regards,
sandy indlekofer-o'sullivan
australia

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i know the igs are in the la-area next week - any word if they're making
any appearances on leno? i checked the epic www site yesterday and didn't
see a mention of it.

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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              leksander" at jun 26, 97 5:59 pm

> about life in general.  now it seems as if the list should be called petty
> argumetns @ netspace.com.  i can't believe how so-called ig fans can bitch
why? netspace is a not-for-profit organization, not a commercial enterprise.
e-mail addresses can't contain spaces, and what's an "argumetns"?
kirsten

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nancy humphries wrote:
>
> i know the igs are in the la-area next week - any word if they're making
> any appearances on leno? i checked the epic www site yesterday and didn't
> see a mention of it.

i was thinking the same thing. i keep checking the tonight show site,
but i haven't seen anything yet. the url is
http://www.nbc.com/tonightshow/guests.html

wishful thinking,
leticia
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have we been bad, y'all? what did we do to deserve so many insults? free
speech can be a bitch, can't it?

jendy

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hi everyone

just got a video tape from anthony and we (well really, me - the anal one)
would love it if some of you know the exact broadcast dates of some
appearances. (please don't ask for a trade from me, as i just finished
teaching so i no longer have the video dubbing access until september).

letterman (1990?) performing hammer and a nail
arts and entertainment review (1990?) performing hammer and a nail
some live show (summerfest?) broadcast on a&e performing ctf and american tune
good morning america performing galileo
letterman performing i don't wanna talk about it
cnn morning news performing dead man's hill (april 22 1994?)
latenight with conan obrian (6/94?) performing touch me fall
letterman (6/28 or 29 or 30 1994?) performing least complicated

also, if anyone is interested, i know of a source on the net that has
strange fire vinyl  (the 89 one, not the original 1987) still sealed for
$20. they also have reverse -1 live cd for $75.  i can give you the url if
you'd like.

thanks
lori


"this could be the saddest dusk i've ever seen turn to a miracle"
                                            rem

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i was curious about something i read in a post just now in the digest and
wondered if people could give me some feedback on this topic.

>anyway, i was reading stephen dobyns' new book, church of the dead girls
>(weird kinda bad karma name, huh?) and at one point a character is
listening
>to the indigo girls!  it wasn't that great of a book so i got really
excited
>when i saw their name...

i am in the middle of writing my second novel (first one not yet
published...oh well) and i have decided to explore music through my main
character's love of music. it starts with her discovering the record
collection that belonged to her mother in the 60s and 70s - left behind by
her mother who departed from her family's lives when they were all still
children. she loves to sing and is aware of this from childhood and she
stumbles across some stuff in her mother's old collection like joni
mitchell, simon and garfunkel, that kind of thing and she falls in love
with it all (she's aged about 13 at the time). now to me it seems fine to
write about her liking musicians that kind of defined the era. it's easy to
look back and see who the big names were and use them as a focus for music
of the time. but what about when my character grows up and is a young adult
in the 90s? i want her to discover music with great lyrics and passion and
stuff so of course ig seems the obvious choice. i really want to give her
my taste in music - ig, tori, sarah mclachlan etc but i am in australia as
most of you know and the knowledge of these performers is limited here,
with the exception of tori who is better known than the others. and we
don't know yet how in 20 years time these people will be remembered, if
they will be definers of the era or not. so what i want to know is, can i,
should i, write about my character discovering the music of such artists
specifically? i'd love to but fear it would alienate readers who had never
heard of them. or maybe it would point readers in the direction of those
performers. i'm not talking about dedicating a whole book to them but i
want them to be mentioned a fair bit.....

this has rambled on longer than i planned. if you stuck with me and have
thoughts on it, i thank you in advance.

helen

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subject:      message in a bottle

hey y'all (and i do say that all the time, being from ky and all)

i couldn't resist the urge to post this, since i just had a defining indigo
moment.  i may still even have tears on my face.  well, here goes.  i'm
always reading everyone's sigs, and i can't bring myself to make one because
i cannot choose a lyric which is just it for me.  ok, i can be decisive, but
i have this controlling way of wanting every decision to be just the best
possible....anyway, i digress.  so i don't have a sig.  may never have one,
but at least now i have located the perfect bonnie lyric for this moment of
my life.

while reading my mail tonight, i had 1200 curfews up really loud and was
listening attentively to each song to pick out amy's parts.  along came
virginia woolf, which i've only heard a blue million times by now.  i just
cried and cried.  anyway, could there be a more beautiful, meaningful and
well written lyric  ever written????  right now, i don't think so.
especially the following:

when your whole life is on the tip of your tongue
empty pages for the no longer young
the apathy of time laughs in your face
you say each life has its place

also:

so it was when the river eclipsed your life,
and sent your soul like a message in a bottle to me
and it was my rebirth

now, the reason for my commenting on all of this is that it really struck me
what emily says in her intro about someone giving her a copy of vw's diaries,
and it really touched her heart and communicated with her in a big way and
made her feel like she was ok.  consider how much a and e's lyrics mean to
all of us, and how many (if not all) of us have been deeply affected by them.
for that reason, i think it's healthy and productive to dissect their lyrics
and understand where certain songs come from and to really examine what they
mean.  ok, so i've found my defining ig lyric for today, and i wanted to
share it with y'all.

still trapped in suburbia,

bonnie

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thought some of you might like to know that she is playing a free concert at
the friendship festival in fort erie/buffalo monday night.
lori


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on thu, 26 jun 1997, lori brinkman wrote:

> hi everyone
>
> just got a video tape from anthony and we (well really, me - the anal one)
> would love it if some of you know the exact broadcast dates of some
> appearances. (please don't ask for a trade from me, as i just finished
> teaching so i no longer have the video dubbing access until september).
>
> letterman (1990?) performing hammer and a nail
> arts and entertainment review (1990?) performing hammer and a nail
> some live show (summerfest?) broadcast on a&e performing ctf and american tune
> good morning america performing galileo
> letterman performing i don't wanna talk about it
> cnn morning news performing dead man's hill (april 22 1994?)
> latenight with conan obrian (6/94?) performing touch me fall
> letterman (6/28 or 29 or 30 1994?) performing least complicated
what you know where them singing shame on you is from? i told uu the last
song is from the new cd<g>
as a side note now see folks what happens when u dont answer quick like<g>
did u tell them abotu amy in her green shirt and glasses<>g> i may offer
this to a tape tree soon but not at this time as i dotn have time right
now but lori what did u think of it
hugs anthony van pyre

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>date: thu, 26 jun 1997 22:27:28 -0400
>from: mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
>did u tell them abotu amy in her green shirt and glasses<>g> i may offer
>this to a tape tree soon but not at this time as i dotn have time right
>now but lori what did u think of it
>hugs anthony van pyre

i saw a in her green shirt and glasses (thanks anthony!).  that was
something, quite diff from her usual tshirt.  i've never seen a in something
form-fitting before.  cute, very cute. ;)
lisa


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yeah amy looked good there i was looking i was like glasses???

on thu, 26 jun 1997, lisa tatonetti wrote:

> >date: thu, 26 jun 1997 22:27:28 -0400
> >from: mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
> >did u tell them abotu amy in her green shirt and glasses<>g> i may offer
> >this to a tape tree soon but not at this time as i dotn have time right
> >now but lori what did u think of it
> >hugs anthony van pyre
>
> i saw a in her green shirt and glasses (thanks anthony!).  that was
> something, quite diff from her usual tshirt.  i've never seen a in something
> form-fitting before.  cute, very cute. ;)
> lisa
>
>
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at 10:43 pm 6/26/97 -0400, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>yeah amy looked good there i was looking i was like glasses???

        are you drunk again mark? ;)

tony :)

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in the absence of a full review of tuesday's concert, i felt the need to
give mho....so here it goes:
   the uno was _not_ filled to capacity, which was kinda disappointing to
me, i was in the third row amy's side and the second row was empty for
the beginning to the concert, then people filed in from some of the
higher seats, i suppose. but in the higher stands, lots of empty seats :(
a and e were really playing in true form...i was totally amazed by amy's
guitar skills and emily's variety of mastered instruments!
  lift was really amazing, i couldn't believe how professionally they
played and how powerful their music is...i do suggest checking out their
music!
     here's a setlist that i don't swear by in order, but it's pretty close!
tried to be true....pure indigo with amy on acoustic and emily on
electric...great opener!

don't give that girl a gun (really heart felt from amy, i was in
absolute awe as she stomped and swayed thru this song!)

gotm(really becoming a huge sing-along...banjo was awesome!)

shame on you( another sing along with amy on lead guitar..it was cute cuz at
the end of the song when amy sings "and we'll be dancin'" emily looks over at
her and replies "and we'll be singin'" with a puppy dog like eyes)

reunion(amy asks the crowd :so how was jazz fest? and they talked about
how they fgelt really wacky...and how they thought n.orleans
just does that to ya'" someone in the center had a large "romeo and
juliet sign that amy sees and smirks at...later she says"i see your
request but we don't know how to play that now...i forgot the words and
if we tried not it would just suck..."  when they hold the sign up again
at the end of the concert amy says"maybe next time!":)
also amy breaks her first string during this song.

it's alright (had cool variations on voices with emily)

power of two(big crowdpleaser...i was upset the the crowd sat thru most
of the concert while only a few of us got up and danced...)

caramia(emily 's got so much passion in this one)

scooter boys(awesome live...has so much more power live with amy right
there with youu!)

least complicated(with na-na's at the end....)

ghost!(with strings part  by their guest guitarist/horn player/singer
from the borrowers...sorry can't recall his name!)  emily hits the really
really high parts with ease..really amazing and angelic!)

shed your skin(loud,loud, live and awesome with great guitar variations
by both girls...cool lighting effect during the jam!)

chickenman(with mr.buzzard and amy saying "i'm so sorry" under her breathe
after the line "five prarie dogs and a rabbit..."

everything in its own time (emily said it was about peace coming in the
world)

hey kind friend (emily mastering that lap string instrument..hirdee
girdie?)

galileo (emily messes up on lead and amy can only chuckle at her!)

encore!
leeds(emily has mastered the piano with awesome variations)

bury my heart at wounded knee(emily intros this song like she does on
1200..."we're gonna do a song by buffie st.marie...." with lift joining
for a loooooonnng guitar variation jam, awesome!)

closer to fine(loooonnnnggg sing-along with variations and everyone on
stage )

amy smiled sooooo much as did emily...many of the concert goers were not
very entrusiastic with the performance at the beginning for some reason,
but the older songs seemed to have brought them into it...

a&e weren't very chatty either..the concert lasted 100min...i really was
hoping someone booted cuz it was an awesome show!
    there seems to have been some problems with the sound board people
keeping all the instrument levels in check...amy was constantly telling
the man to turn things up and down...emily corrected jerry on drums when
he didn't come in on time at the beginning of shame on you..it's cool to
see how they want everything to sound right!
  i was on a definite indigo high after the concert and could only wish to
someday meet them in person, they seem like they'd be so energetic!
well i hoe that covers it and if anyone did make a boot pls email me..i'd
be dying to hear it...sorry if i've made any errors in my recollection,
they played so amazingly it seems like a really happy blur to me!
dave
dsue@bigfoot.com

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damn did i do that that should say yeah amy looked good there i was
looking and i was like amy in glasses

on thu, 26 jun 1997, da chickenman wrote:

> at 10:43 pm 6/26/97 -0400, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
> >yeah amy looked good there i was looking i was like glasses???
>
>         are you drunk again mark? ;)
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> tony :)
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right. that clears it up?

jendy

at 11:31 pm 6/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
>damn did i do that that should say yeah amy looked good there i was
>looking and i was like amy in glasses
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where i was the first time i heard a&e:

i was in both heaven and hell at the same time.  i was working (my first
job) at sears outlet (which carried overstock and catalog returns) in
the
summer of 1989, just before i started college.  we had a bigwig coming
to check the place out the next week, so i was having to change out
every
hanger with a plasti:ntop to one with a metal top (this is more info
than
you ever wanted to know...i'm sure).  i have always been the one who
heard the songs at work, when others said, "i just really wasn't paying
attention," and i was listening particularly hard as i worked by myself.
so...this song came on...guitars....great harmonies...cool lyrics.  i
won-
dered who it was....and hoped to hear it again the next day.  i heard it
almost every day for about a week, and then i saw the video of ctf on
mtv.  i didn't hear any more about ig until i went on a canoe trip with
a
church group.  at the fire that night, two guys picked up their guitars
and
we all sang ctf.  cool.  = )  that hellish hangar job was the beginning
of a love for the music that would become the soundtrack of my life.


dallas show saturday:

is there an opening act?  the tickets say 8.  we're planning to get
there
at 7.  is there any reason why we should be there earlier?  this will be
my third ig concert at the starplex.  i am ecstatic.  so...if there's
any
other info i need to know, i'd really appreciate it if someone could
tell
me.  thanks!!!  take care.

jennifer w.


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        thanks david sue for the no review!!  it reminded me that the girls
played reunion last night at the woodlands also.
        i also remembered this woman in the second row last night held up a
sign when galileo started that said:
        "emily, i was your wife in a past lifetime :)"
amy saw it first and pointed it out to emily who also got a big laugh.  then
halfway through the song, the woman turned the sign around and it said:
        "will you marry me again?"

        it was pretty cute!

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ya'll will never believe this...
i saw them at the backyard tonight (incredible, by the way!), and when emily
sang about the black churches burning all the way from texas, the audience
cheered! i guess all they heard was texas. so, she sang the line again and
some people stopped, but some did it again!!! it was so bad. poor emily. i
hope she knows us better than to believe the drunk people meant that. hey,
all of ya'll going tomorrow, people might do the same thing again. i hope you
don't get as embarrased as i did.
anyways! just a detail of the show! i was really amazed at their voices live.
i guess i just didn't believe they could sound that incredible. i have never
heard a live performance good as the quality of the sound on the cd's. i'm
certainly a believer now! in short....they blew me away!

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i thought this was pretty funny:
i'm a billy joel addict. for about a year i wouldn't listen to anything else.


also love neil diamond, and am a closet barry manilow fan.  chicago, air
supply. that's also my camp influence...hmmm, the indigo girls, james taylor,
joni mitchell, and chicago? one of these kids is not like the other ones.

i agree that ani difranco is a great lyricist. i also think you can't forget
someone like robert hunter. love sarah mclachlan's lyrics too. some other
people that i can't think of because i'm exhausted.

and btw, bone-thugs'n'harmony is not exactly indi-folk-rock.

sari

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the same thing happened last summer at teh demo tour.  and it really
upset me and my roommate.

darren

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i just have to post about this. if any of you perchance remember what i
wrote about in my "where was i" i mentioned that i'm trying to get my
friend lisa hooked on ig. so far i've lent 12000c and the watershed video
to her and she liked them. anyway, we got in the car tonight and i said
"we can listen to u2 or indigo girls. which one?" and lisa very
enthusiastically said "indigo girls!" i've taught her well. so i put on
shaming of the sun and sent her home with rites of passage.
all things indigo.
-sam (wishing i could take lisa to one of the ig concerts i'm going to)

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yep that clears it up
on thu, 26 jun 1997, joanie wrote:

> right. that clears it up?
>
> jendy
>
> at 11:31 pm 6/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >damn did i do that that should say yeah amy looked good there i was
> >looking and i was like amy in glasses
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> like old _smaug_ guarding his dwarf gold ( see the hobbit ).  a
testament to the

actually dave, isn't his name is smeagle or golem...??
i made a clay likeness of him in tenth grade and loved him so... some
people even think i have hobbit feet..and... did you know my last name is
hobbs?? (originally hobbys in 500 ad - i know cos great aunt joan did the
research)
coincidence?? i think not. now, it just occurred to me you mean someone
else in the book if this is true, then please do not flame me, i have
sensitive skin, you mean the fellow who had the ring and used it too much,
right?? the one who changed from a nice little fellow to something sick
evil and stinking of rot, right??  let me know, i love the stories and the
movies and everything... pier countdown..woohooo...seattle bound,
hi binky hi carolyn hi goddess kim hi betsy hi sundara hi anyone else i'll
see... bye, love and super soft kisses, kimmy ((n.v.) - who desperately
needs to eat something before she drops dead. (as i am sure some of you
are willing right now... oh oh, hey...if the sunami hits long beach this
weekend while i am camping there..i love you all and tell ig i had their
songs playing at the end) peace.

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at 11:31 pm 6/26/97 -0400, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>damn did i do that that should say yeah amy looked good there i was
>looking and i was like amy in glasses


oh my.  mark, i understood that on the first read.  i'm scared.   ;o)  ;o)
joni :o)

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>at 10:43 pm 6/26/97 -0400, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>>yeah amy looked good there i was looking i was like glasses???

>thu, 26 jun 1997 20:24:41 -0700 da chickenman wrote:

>        are you drunk again mark? ;)
>
>tony :)

it's kinda like reading morrison or faulkner.  ya' gotta insert the
punctuation in your head. :)
lisa


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seriously, it's only life afterall." --emily saliers

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date:         fri, 27 jun 1997 08:42:49 -0400
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subject:      re: wild horses

ha! i don't even *think* of the stones anymore when i see *wild horses* :)

imho, the best rendition of wh is on the kiefer uno new orleans, la show may
4th, 1996.  mm is joined by joan baez and i think it is great....also mm and
the girls at gw was superbo :)

jude :)

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hey y'all,

i couldn't resist this probably short-lived topic, so here's my two cents.

(one ring to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them)

smaug is the dragon who is protecting the gold in the hobbit.  bilbo, from
the shire, travels across the land through perilous dangers, through the
black forest and to the steps of the misty mountains to where smaug is
laying rest.  i think this is close, but it's a great book about a foreign land
and neat-o dwarves, elves, hobbits, and humans.

it is actually a great intro.....imho, because the lord of the rings trilogy
is even better.  placing the younger hobbit, frodo, along with gimli,
legolas, gandalf, boromir, and some other warrior elves and dwarves -
to find the "ring" and stay away from the shadows (from mordor, where
the shadows lie).  this is more of an epic, with the good forces facing
the evil forces and wet-not.

jrr tolkien is an awesome writer.  i was just mad when i read these
books he had long since past away.  but c'est dommage!!!  what can i
do...

btw...this information is unreliable at best so if confronted directly
regarding any of  this info, i will irrefutably deny everything....

thanks for you time with my random thoughts....

if only a & e could have played by the campfire on these journey's,
(during there other lifetime)  then peace, love, & indigo would not be such
a far fetched idea !!!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
can you answer?  yes i can, ...
but what would be the answer to answer man?
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mkc

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in a message dated 97-06-26 14:49:48 edt, you write:

> hi everyone
>
>  could anyone tell me who the song "wild horses" is by and whether it is
>  available on an album. i have a bad version on a boot, but i would really
>  like to get a good version of the song.
>

hmm... if we're talking about the same thing, it's by the rolling stones.
but theres an absolutely fabulous version of a way under-rated band, the
sundays (any sundays fans in ig land?).  it was used in a budweiser (or some
beer) commercial.  their version is on reading, writing and arithmetic.  now,
the girls, i don't know...

the sfc

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hey, why doesn't somebody (somebody not lazy like me) go around collecting
all the "where was i" posts and putting them all together in one big file.
so everyone could have a "where was i when i first heard the indigo girls
warm fuzzy file".  wouldn't that just be boffo?

the sfc
(gloats as he decides this is his best idea so far)

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ok, i give up...where was i?

hummm, prolly before i ever heard them, the answer is nowhere ;)

was introduced to the girls by my former friend and co-worker allison who was
kinda low octaine/high maintenance, it you know what i mean.  amyray, i even
asked the "which one is the blonde" question =)

jude:) <who does not discuss dates.  if you gotta know, wait till they plant
me.

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okay, here is your host doing the count thing again. as of this morning, we
are up to:

one thousand, seven hundred and twenty-eight hours (or 1728, if you like).

to be honest, i thought 500 hours would have been a miracle. shows you what
us mortals know about miracles. i am very happy about this, and those who
write to me seem happy as well. thank you so much for all your kind,
complimentary letters which keep praising me. but the fact is, this isn't
just about what i initiated anymore. it has taken on a life of its own, and
has begun to breathe it's life into mine.

which literary hyperbole may explain why i am so bouncy and hyper these
days. two lives inside one body! watch me spin and dance with joy!

can i be greedy? can i ask for some more hours? in all honesty we have gone
so far beyond my expectations, that i cannot really say "oh no! can we at
least get 1800 hours here??"  we will take whatever someone wants to offer
out of love, whether that be 1 hour or 100.

today however, is the last day to email me with information, since we have
to get the certificate ready. i am also trying to make two t- shirts for
amy and emily with the poster printed on the shirts. does anybody know what
sizes i should do for them? (absurd question, but why not get it right?)

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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> i am also trying to make two t- shirts for
> amy and emily with the poster printed on the shirts. does anybody know what
> sizes i should do for them? (absurd question, but why not get it right?)


i don't know the specific answer, but if no one else does either --
go very large so they can use them as night shirts!

                        good luck tonight,

                                chris

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all the tolkien talk and my endless distaste for bill gates
is driving me to post this.  its an oldie -- but it kept my
hobbit & pc friends on the floor for 10 minutes.

                                -- chris

--------------

recently one of my friends, a computer wizard, payed me a visit.
as we were talking i mentioned that i had recently installed
windows 95 on my pc, i told him how happy i was with this operating
system and showed him the windows 95 cd. too my surprise he threw
it into my micro-wave oven and turned on the oven. instantly i got
very upset, because the cd had become precious to me, but he said:
'do not worry, it is unharmed.' after a few minutes he took the cd
out, gave it to me and said: 'take a close look at it.' to my
surprise the cd was quite cold to hold and it seemed to be heavier
than before. at first i could not see anything, but on the inner
edge of the central hole i saw a inscription, an inscription finer
than anything i have ever seen before. the inscription shone
piercingly bright, and yet remote, as if out of a great depth:

12413aeb2ed4fa5e6f7d78e78bede8209450920f923a40ee10e510cc98d444aa08e1324

'i cannot understand the fiery letters,' i said.
'no but i can,' he said. 'the letters are hex, of an ancient mode,
but the language is that of microsoft, which i shall not utter
here. but in common english this is what it says:'

       one os to rule them all, one os to find them,
       one os to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

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well, i've been far far far too busy to even think of contributing to
this thread, but i had a thought this morning (doesn't happen often) and
i had to share. my stereo wakes me up automatically every morning. (it's
cool that way). i just stick a cd in, and at 7:00 every morning it turns
on automatically. ok, so this morning it was the self titled ig, and so
my first consciousness this morning was with the strains of ctf coming
from my living room. so i lay there thinking about how ctf was my first
hook, and the first hook of a good share of the people around here, and
then the song came to the first chorus, and i hear "closer i am...." and
i realized that was it. my very first ig-grab-me-wake-me-up-and-shake-me
moment wasn't the first hearing of ctf, it was the first time i heard
that word "_closer_." that's all it took. that word couldn't be more
perfect. so i guess it's been about 8 years ago in college now that the
word "closer" stole my heart and sent me on an 8 year concert-going,
best-friend-meeting, road-tripping, boot-collecting, ig kinda frenzy.
gee, and it's even too early for warm fuzzies.
folkisgruven,
lorindigo


still driving...
lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

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sorry really late notice - between 3 - 3.30 - satdy morning the shame on you

video will be on rage on abc.

sorry again about late notice.

regards,
sandy

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hey people!

please excuse this post, but i need some help.

my girlfriend and i are going to the orlando area in july.  neither of us
has ever been there, and i have been searching the internet for
information with little success.

it's not that i haven't been able to locate any info., but i'm
specifically looking for lesbian/gay suggestions just in case we're
interested in checking them out while we're there (i.e. places to go,
things to do).  i have a women's traveller from '95, but i don't know how
much has changed since it was published.  i also don't know how much time
we will actually have once we get there--we are driving down from iowa
and only have a week.

we will be staying with my girlfriend's cousin while we are there, and he
strongly suggests both disney world and universal studios (he says we
would regret it if we had gone all the way down there and didn't make to
either of those places).  this sounds good to me, but what do i know?

one thing i know i do not want to miss (while we're so close) is the
ocean.  having lived in the midwest all of my life and not having
traveled too far from here, i have never been anywhere near any ocean!  i
want to see it at least once in my lifetime, but i would rather not go to
some crowded beach.  if possible, i would love to find a peaceful area
not overpopulated with people.

anyway, if anyone has any suggestions or tips on what to do or where to
go it would be greatly appreciated!  please email me privately at this
address:

sisterfriend@juno.com

thanks!
angela
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if i have a care in the world--i have a gift to bring....."
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nope the dragon was smaug golem was the creature that says precious my
precious someone has stolen my precious

on thu, 26 jun 1997, kimberly hobbs wrote:

> > like old _smaug_ guarding his dwarf gold ( see the hobbit ).  a
> testament to the
>
> actually dave, isn't his name is smeagle or golem...??
> i made a clay likeness of him in tenth grade and loved him so... some
> people even think i have hobbit feet..and... did you know my last name is
> hobbs?? (originally hobbys in 500 ad - i know cos great aunt joan did the
> research)
> coincidence?? i think not. now, it just occurred to me you mean someone
> else in the book if this is true, then please do not flame me, i have
> sensitive skin, you mean the fellow who had the ring and used it too much,
> right?? the one who changed from a nice little fellow to something sick
> evil and stinking of rot, right??  let me know, i love the stories and the
> movies and everything... pier countdown..woohooo...seattle bound,
> hi binky hi carolyn hi goddess kim hi betsy hi sundara hi anyone else i'll
> see... bye, love and super soft kisses, kimmy ((n.v.) - who desperately
> needs to eat something before she drops dead. (as i am sure some of you
> are willing right now... oh oh, hey...if the sunami hits long beach this
> weekend while i am camping there..i love you all and tell ig i had their
> songs playing at the end) peace.
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you know that is one of the first signs of the apocolyps dont you
understanding what i write the first time<g>

on fri, 27 jun 1997, joan m. cyr wrote:

> at 11:31 pm 6/26/97 -0400, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
> >damn did i do that that should say yeah amy looked good there i was
> >looking and i was like amy in glasses
>
>
> oh my.  mark, i understood that on the first read.  i'm scared.   ;o)  ;o)
> joni :o)
>
>

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now you got it

on fri, 27 jun 1997, lisa tatonetti wrote:

> >at 10:43 pm 6/26/97 -0400, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
> >>yeah amy looked good there i was looking i was like glasses???
>
> >thu, 26 jun 1997 20:24:41 -0700 da chickenman wrote:
>
> >        are you drunk again mark? ;)
> >
> >tony :)
>
> it's kinda like reading morrison or faulkner.  ya' gotta insert the
> punctuation in your head. :)
> lisa
>
>
> "the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less
> seriously, it's only life afterall." --emily saliers
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on wed, 25 jun 1997, katspaw@idirect.com (marilyn)  wrote:

>is it just me or does the song shed your skin's style sound
>very much like chrissy hynde from the pretenders?

>just my 2 cents...only worth 1.43 cents you ya yanks ;)

now that you mention it... yes! good call! it really does have
that kind of 'angry energy thing' going on that chrissy hynde does
so well.

this yank is willin' to pay 2 cents for that one!

-d@ve

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subject:      a cool deal/ ig poster

hey everyone,
         i saw someone wrote something about a new indigo girls poster. well
i was at this music store that no one really likes and see 2 of these ig
promo posters hanging up.  i had never seen this poster before so i asked the
workers if they had any more. they looked and had no more so gave me one of
the two hanging up. a free poster was good enough for me even if it was
hanging up. now my only problem is that i can't figure out which side of the
poster i like better. so i've decided to flip sides occasionally. just wanted
to share...peace.
                       ~deb

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subject:      tennessee too

hi, just in response to the texas thing--oh my gosh, i was so embarassed
at the knoxville show!  when emily said the line, "from texas to
tennessee," all you could hear was cheering.  my friend and i looked at
each other like, are these people nuts???? black churches burning in our
state. let's cheer. right.
so anyway what is going on with that phenomenon?

i would love to add to the where were you but i can't remember--they've
been in my brain probably since ctf, but i didn't become a fan til i
heard romeo and juliet on another one of those darn mix tapes that
everybody seems to hear ig on for the first time! and i didn't become
obsessed until my dj friend got me a 1200 curfews and it didn't leave my
cd player for all of my junior year of college (1995-1996).  theeeennn, i
went to camp and got blown away by the number of my counselor friends who
loved ig, played guitar, sang everything.
the camp connection strikes again!!!
oh well i guess i added anyway.  see y'all!

--beth b.
ps. i'm the one moving to columbus--on sunday--anyone got extra lilith
tickets? thanks!

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i'm still reeling from 2 nights of  the girls, but have to comment on the
shows.  they put on a very good show in houston and even better in austin.
but since i used to live in houston and needed one more example of why i
moved  two years ago, i got it wednesday night.  the main reason i moved to
austin was for live music.  you could say it is my hobby.  sue and i had
5th row in the pit, amy side.  i saw some people that i was sure were on
the list in the 3rd row center.  they were dancing and yelling and having a
great time.  there were a few more small groups here and there that were
having fun too.  but the majority of the crowd looked like they were at a
symphony.  all the people sitting on the 4 rows in front of me(except for a
couple of people), acted like they had never heard the indigos before.
they just sat there like stones.  at the end of each song they would
politely clap.  sue and i were jumping up and hooting(if you were there you
may have seen us), and they never moved. even after a nice sit down song,
we would stand at the end and clap.  they just did there polite 'clap
clap'.    the people behind us only came to see them sing river(even though
we assured them that probably was not happening).  they kept yelling
"river".  amy thought they said "free bird",  and commented "we don't play
free bird".  some people kept yelling galleo, i guess it was the only song
they knew.  finally amy had to say "we'll do that one".  at this point i
was getting embarrassed for them.  it seemed the harder they tried, they
just couldn't get to these 'stone people'.  at one point emily says "we're
going to play something off the album, whether ya'll like it or not!"  i
just couldn't believe this crowd.  i just don't understand why 75% of them
were there... now shift to austin.  the girls are always greatly
appreciated in austin and the audience shows that.  it was still daylight
when they started and it took a little while for the crowd to really get
going, but by the end of the show everyone was on their feet and having a
great time.  god i was happy to be home!  i don't mean any disrespect to
the list people from houston, cause i know ya'll were making some noise,
but i just felt like they were not receiving enough respect.  i think the
next time they go to houston, they should play a smaller venue and perhaps
only they're real fans would show up.   ok i'm done complaining now.  i'll
be at tonight's show on the 4th row center.  hope some houston people are
going to be there again, so they can feel the magic of a great audience.

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6/27/97

     okay, one more...
     during my frosh orientation i heard 'some guitar music' while
passing by a dorm room.  i thought to myself..'hmm, interesting' but
passed it off.   now that i think about it, i can't remember what
exactly possessed me to ask my resident adviser to drive me to the
nearest record store during midterms later that year.  i don't think
she was particularly thrilled, but she was a snake anyway (tip:  be
wary when someone even remotely related to administration says
'nothing you say will go beyond these four walls, i promise').
anyway, during that year rop lived inside my mind.  it was hard to
avoid when attending their alma mater where many were listeners.
while swimming, i would sing/bubble 'ghost' in the water during long
sets (which is convenient since no one can hear you if you don't sing
that well!).  the music kept me company during those mundane workouts,
lap after lap, and provided an extra boost of energy whenever i got to
the full-out crescendos in some of the songs.  since we hosted the
national championships that year, music was controlled (like the
mafia) by our team and ctf was blasted over the pool during warm-ups.

    after using the song 'you could be mine' from the movie terminator
2 for grinding out seemingly endless  200's in high school, ig was a
refreshing change (gee, from gun's & roses and  metallica to ig, sarah
mclachlan, and julia fordham...people indeed evolve!).

cat   ; )

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on thu, 26 jun 1997, john miller wrote:
>   does anyone know if michelle malone been confirmed to open *both*
>   indigo-shows in berkeley, july 5 & 6?  last i heard only one show
>   had been confirmed.
>


hey all, fyi,

michelle malone is opening for the girls at berkeley on july 6.  the
saturday, july 5 show will be opened by seattle's 'the billy tipton
memorial saxophone quartet.'  they are also opening for the girls on july
1 in san diego, july 3 in l.a., july 10 in champoeg state park (oregon),
and july 12 in seattle.

they are an incredible group of 4 female sax players and a drummer who
perform really eclectic music.  their show is great fun and pretty
amazing.

if you have any further questions regarding the tiptons, mail me and i'll
tell you what i can.

be well,

carolyn

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did i miss the boat here??

where can i see amy in glasses?  like in glasses you need to see, or cool
glasses?

i feel so lost.....

peace, love, and ig-
karrie, the amy-aholic
;)

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thank goddess that its cleared up.  now we can resume our daily lives.
amy

by the way, did ya'll get the cat food off the ceiling yet?


on fri, 27 jun 1997, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:

> yep that clears it up
> on thu, 26 jun 1997, joanie wrote:
>
> > right. that clears it up?
> >
> > jendy
> >
> > at 11:31 pm 6/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
> > >damn did i do that that should say yeah amy looked good there i was
> > >looking and i was like amy in glasses
> > >
> >
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yay yay yay yay -
we are finally getting vh-1 here in lovely madison wi, starting next tuesday,
which means i may finally have a chance to see ig vids every so often!
join me in my utter joy - it's the small things in life that make it
worthwhile, dontcha know....
--krista

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we are at 1936 hours now!

who wants to be the new addition, whose hours help us to reach 2000?

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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ok, so i haven't posted in a while and felt obligated to send this even
though it's bound to offend someone (but you *were* warned;)

betsy <- who still enjoys getting flamed, so go ahead if you feel the need

------------------------------------------

>did you hear they found ellen degeneres?
>
>
>
>
>they found her face down in ricky lake.

ha

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i heard soy on star 98.7 this morning - about the 3rd time i've heard it
in near-drive-time slots.   they also said this morning that ig will be
paying a visit to the star lounge (their live in-studio thing) "some time
next week" - it's gotta be tuesday or wednesday, but if anyone hears the
time for sure, please post it.  there is a real limit to how much i can
make myself listen to 98.7

also, y107 has a full-page ad in the la weekly about the signing at 2pm on
tuesday at tower records in west hollywood (on sunset).  so they might
also be getting some interview time - if anyone hears anything, let us
know.  i haven't heard them play soy at all since they were doing the
ticket give away back in april or may or whenever it was, so i don't
listen too much.  the ad has a big picture too - just the usual promo one,
but nice and big <g>.

i'll be either working or trying to go to the tower thing on tuesday or
wednesday, so i doubt i'll be able to tape the radio - i hope someone
else out there can manage it.

oh, star is also giving away tickets, as part of their 3-show giveaway
thing.  usually its lilith faire and two other shows, frequently ig.

thats all the news for today,

"misanthropy, yes, misogyny, no" - peter greenaway
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glases u need to see and only on the tape i have

on fri, 27 jun 1997, karrie a. bowen wrote:

> did i miss the boat here??
>
> where can i see amy in glasses?  like in glasses you need to see, or cool
> glasses?
>
> i feel so lost.....
>
> peace, love, and ig-
> karrie, the amy-aholic
> ;)
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sigh im having a crappy day
i now have to go to the post office and bitch at them  ive bene waiting
for this tape from  miss deepree and i got it i was all set to watch the
ppv and the tape was messed up it kept speeding up  so i wrote her and she
understood and sent me a new tape which i recieved today i recived the
envolope and it had a hole in the envolope i thought nothing of it i
pulled the tape out and im sorry to say im gonna scream
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh  its melted they must
have left it in the sun at the post office as the side of it where it says
t120 is all bulging and warped they will be hearing from me when i go
there today bitching a big bitch let me tell u please write me miss
deepree again the other 2 as u can see from the list have got their tapes
and throughly enjoyed them
anthohny van pyre whose not very happy right now

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does anyone happen to have the chords for kristin hall's "out in the
country" ? thanks!  :)

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yeah but aren't they like famous authors or summin?

;)

jendy

on fri, 27 jun 1997, lisa tatonetti wrote:

> >at 10:43 pm 6/26/97 -0400, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
> >>yeah amy looked good there i was looking i was like glasses???
>
> >thu, 26 jun 1997 20:24:41 -0700 da chickenman wrote:
>
> >        are you drunk again mark? ;)
> >
> >tony :)
>
> it's kinda like reading morrison or faulkner.  ya' gotta insert the
> punctuation in your head. :)
> lisa
>
>
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i'm just posting this to make the murmurs fan out there jealous.

they did a show last night at the viper room in l.a.   - a really fun
show, which they said was part of their cd release party.

the room was pretty packed with rabid fans and they were having a great
time. i'm shallow and star-struck, so what i liked best was that kd lang
was hanging out by the stage, beaming at leisha, and singing along and a
couple of times she jumped up on stage to sing with them, once during i'm
a mess, and once during something that i don't remember now.  she was
jumping around on stage, banging on the cymbals and really acting like she
was having fun.  and after the show, she was just walking around in the
bar, talking to people, and i think she signed a couple autographs.  and,
she's not that tall!  i don't know why that was what i noticed, but it
was.

other highlights - heather took off her shirt and did a spice girls
parody of some sort, but  i don't know enough about the condiment ones to
know if it was actually one of their songs.   i'm still spice free.

there was diving off the stage, and much tossing of delicate personal
undergarments onto the stage.  i grabbed a poster off one of the pillars,
but since it's mostly a picture of heather's grandmother (so she says,
it's the new album cover) it's not that exciting.

it was fun!

"misanthropy, yes, misogyny, no" - peter greenaway
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you people have totally embarrassed me. i am overcome with shame.

here i am, acting all greedy, and do you tell me to stop??  no. the more i
ask for, the more you keep giving. :)  i asked for more hours, well i got
them. since the last post, we are now up to:

two thousand, one hundred and eighty hours (2180)!!

i am not going to ask more hours. if you want to give more hours in support
of a wonderful cause, and you want to do this out of love, and you know 1
hour counts as much as 100, and you really want to be an active part of
this project, and you know if you volunteer on an on-going basis you can
still donate the hours you put in during the last three months as being
your gift, then you can email me with your contributions. but i am not
asking :)

er...but can i say that the deadline for turning in hours is at 3 p.m.
today? so, like, you have until then to turn in hours? so if you ran out
right now and did something it would still be included?

also should mention that the girls can't meet with me either before or
after the show tomorrow (in dallas), so i am going to mail the framed
poster to them in georgia. this is good because now, they don't have to lug
the huge thing around with them all through their tour, and we also don't
have to invade their privacy.

one whole more hour to turn in hours!

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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oh sorry, i totally messed up the days - they're in l.a. wednesday and
thursday, and the tower signing is wednesday, not tuesday.  i'm having a
little problem with july 1st not being a monday...

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just a plug for the sndtrk (and the movie too)
i went into nuggets in kenmore sq and looked for
some new tunes, ran across this sndtrk and was like
"o yeah!! there was some good stuff in that movie"
so i turn over the back and was excited about seeing:
ani difranco, the murmurs, sleater-kinney, michelle malone
(and many others, 20 tracks. my version of crs only allows
for 4 items to be memorized)
so go out and buy it, see it, do it... can i sound more commercial?
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sigh part 2 its not sun damaged they the post office had crushed the tape
arrgggh


on fri, 27 jun 1997, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:

> sigh im having a crappy day
> i now have to go to the post office and bitch at them  ive bene waiting
> for this tape from  miss deepree and i got it i was all set to watch the
> ppv and the tape was messed up it kept speeding up  so i wrote her and she
> understood and sent me a new tape which i recieved today i recived the
> envolope and it had a hole in the envolope i thought nothing of it i
> pulled the tape out and im sorry to say im gonna scream
> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh  its melted they must
> have left it in the sun at the post office as the side of it where it says
> t120 is all bulging and warped they will be hearing from me when i go
> there today bitching a big bitch let me tell u please write me miss
> deepree again the other 2 as u can see from the list have got their tapes
> and throughly enjoyed them
> anthohny van pyre whose not very happy right now
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that i dont know


on fri, 27 jun 1997, joanie wrote:

> yeah but aren't they like famous authors or summin?
>
> ;)
>
> jendy
>
> on fri, 27 jun 1997, lisa tatonetti wrote:
>
> > >at 10:43 pm 6/26/97 -0400, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
> > >>yeah amy looked good there i was looking i was like glasses???
> >
> > >thu, 26 jun 1997 20:24:41 -0700 da chickenman wrote:
> >
> > >        are you drunk again mark? ;)
> > >
> > >tony :)
> >
> > it's kinda like reading morrison or faulkner.  ya' gotta insert the
> > punctuation in your head. :)
> > lisa
> >
> >
> > "the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less
> > seriously, it's only life afterall." --emily saliers
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c'mon now. toni morrison's one of e's fav authors (and william faulkner's
one of morrison's biggest influences).  you're slippin' on the ig trivia
here....or am i letting my english teacher mode take over????
:)lisa

>fri, 27 jun 1997 15:22:38 mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>that i dont know


>on fri, 27 jun 1997, joanie wrote:
>> yeah but aren't they like famous authors or summin?
>> ;)
>> jendy

>> on fri, 27 jun 1997, lisa tatonetti wrote:
>> > it's kinda like reading morrison or faulkner.  ya' gotta insert the
>> > punctuation in your head. :)
>> > lisa


>> > >at 10:43 pm 6/26/97 -0400, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>> > >>yeah amy looked good there i was looking i was like glasses???

>> > >thu, 26 jun 1997 20:24:41 -0700 da chickenman wrote:
>> >
>> > >        are you drunk again mark? ;)
>> > >
>> > >tony :)

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seriously, it's only life afterall." --emily saliers

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     this may have been asked to the list before i ever signed on, but does
     anyone have the exact story of the where the title "shaming of the
     sun" came from?

     i heard somewhere that it is an american indian legend, or something.
     can someone explain?

     thanks in advance.

     leonard
     sarasota, fl

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hey folks,
much of this was new to me.  thought i'd share...and then stop sending so
many friggin' posts!!! promise.
lisa

asap   as soon as possible
bbl    be back later
bbn    bye bye now
beg    big evil grin
btw    by the way
bwl    bursting with laughter
cya    see ya
cnp... continued in next post
cyal8r   see you later
dltbbb   don't let the bed bugs bite
fyi    for your information
gmbo   giggling my butt off
gmta   great minds think alike
gtsy   glad to see you
h&k    hug and kiss
ic     i see
imho   in my humble opinion
irl    in real life
iwalu  i will always love you (we will!)
jmo    just my opinion
kit    keep in touch
l8r g8r  later 'gater
ol       old lady (wife, girlfriend)
om       old man (husband, boyfriend)
ottomh   off the top of my head
pds      please don't shoot
pmfji   pardon me for jumping in
rofl   rolling on floor laughing
shid   slaps head in disgust
ta   thanks again
toy   thinking of you

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<<at 11:31 pm 6/26/97 -0400, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>damn did i do that that should say yeah amy looked good there i was
>looking and i was like amy in glasses

then in a message dated 6/27/97 12:21:03 pm, joni cyr wrote:
oh my.  mark, i understood that on the first read.  i'm scared.   ;o)  ;o)>>

well, i'm still trying to decipher what mark wrote, but i'm somewhat
concerned cuz joni did understand!!!!  that scares me too!  tgif, huh, joni?

dee

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at 3:56 pm -0400 6/27/97, dschulman@aol.com wrote:
>well, i'm still trying to decipher what mark wrote, but i'm somewhat
>concerned cuz joni did understand!!!!  that scares me too!  tgif, huh, joni?

ok, looks like i'm gonna have to clear this up once and for all:  ;o) ;o)
here's the statement with punctuation:

damn!  did i do that?  that should say "yeah, amy looked good there!"  i was
looking, and i was like "amy in glasses!"

now, that oughta do it!

[sheesh mark, i can't believe so many didn't get that...i'm with ya, man...
;o)]

joni  :o)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
i understand that garry kasparov has a plan.  he's going to schedule
the rematch with the computer for just after midnight, 01 january 2000.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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at 10:17 am 6/27/97 -0500, linda m, mcdaniel wrote:
>i'm still reeling from 2 nights of  the girls, but have to comment on the
>shows.  they put on a very good show in houston .... sue and i had 5th row
in the pit, amy side.  i saw some people that i was sure were on the list in
the 3rd row center.  they were dancing and yelling and having a great time.

        that was me...da chickenman and kris lewis and 4 others!!!  i didn't
notice that the show was any less than spectacular from the seats i was in.
and several times towards the end of the concert (during least complicated,
galileo, shame on you)  i turned around and it looked like all of the seated
area was standing and singing!
        i've seen less enthusiastic shows...dallas last august for ex.  the
crowd *only* sung along to closer to fine for the most part :(
        chastain park in atlanta was little better :o  people buy season
summer concert tickets and apparently often have no idea of who the band is,
so they talk and socialize instead of watching the show. and that's in the
girl's hometown!! :o
        but i certainly agree with you that austin is the music mecca
capital of maybe the world!!  the girls show last august at the by was
riotous -- what a party, what a show!!!  the girls seem to really enjoy
playing in austin too!
        so, i'm getting ready to head to austin right now for the show
tonight and look forward to a similar experience! :)
        look for me there.  i'll be the one in the big chicken suit! :o  j/k ;)

i was on the road to austin....

i       tony, da chickenman - houston, texas, usa       g
n                                                       i
d       not content to bow and bend to the whims        r
i       of culture that swoop like vultures eating      l
g       us away to our extinction -  emily saliers      s
o

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i just ordered my lilith fair ticket for the 10th of august, and so now i am
going on the &th and on the 10th!!!!!  i am so, so excited!  is anyone else
on this list going ot either of those two shows?  i'd love to meet if you
are.
<panting with joy>
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just posted a lilith fair mail and noticed after i clicked on send mail that
i screwed pu one of the dates...i'm going on the 7th and the 10th (of august)
ooops
erin
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subject:      two random igc things . . .

hello, all! =)  i've been sort of quiet lately, so i'm doing a random act of
posting.

*first random ig thing*

i was flipping through 'the best baby name book in the world' the other day,
and if you look up amy, it says "see emily" and if you look up emily: "see
amy".  hmmm . . .

*my random ig moment of the week*

monday was the last day of school in my town.  not for me, though.  i was out
with mono for a huge amount of time, and i still had/have some stuff to make
up.
but i'm standing there outside the school waiting for my mom to come pick me
up, and i've got sots on my headphones.  i was just looking around, taking in
the sights, and i see a friend of mine standing on a bench type thing, above
the crowd, laughing.  i thought to myself about that because i realized this
is her last day in the grips of the public school system.  she couldn't stand
it anymore and is going off to "the new jewish school" at brandeis.  caramia
came on, but i was half ignoring it, just thinking about how she (my friend)
was destined to be su president and now it's all to me.  i mean, she's always
been the class leader and i've always been the faithful sidekick second
banana type, but now i've got to step up to the plate.  i think i can handle
it, but then . . . so, i'm standing there working myself all into a depressed
frenzy, when my history teacher drives by and honks, smiles, waves, and
drives off.  well that just did it!  because she's retiring this year, and
she's just the best history teacher i've ever had!  and suddenly i realize
that i'm now alone in history, i'm alone on student council and newspaper and
whatnot, and it's all up to me.  and right as i'm about to expolde the music
stops and there's that line "but there's a sea full of faces and show to go
on, but i'm struck mute at entrence, with nothing to draw from."  i wanted to
just crumble.  that line sums up every emotion i feel right now, it seems . .
.

well, if you've read this far, thanks.  =)  and, yes, i'm feeling better now,
thanks.

-elizabeth

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glancing at the tv listings for tonight (6/27) - usa today has sarah
maclachlan on letterman.

n.


nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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lol now u be good

on fri, 27 jun 1997 dschulman@aol.com wrote:

> <<at 11:31 pm 6/26/97 -0400, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
> >damn did i do that that should say yeah amy looked good there i was
> >looking and i was like amy in glasses
>
> then in a message dated 6/27/97 12:21:03 pm, joni cyr wrote:
> oh my.  mark, i understood that on the first read.  i'm scared.   ;o)  ;o)>>
>
> well, i'm still trying to decipher what mark wrote, but i'm somewhat
> concerned cuz joni did understand!!!!  that scares me too!  tgif, huh, joni?
>
> dee
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thanks joan<g>

on fri, 27 jun 1997, joan m. cyr wrote:

> at 3:56 pm -0400 6/27/97, dschulman@aol.com wrote:
> >well, i'm still trying to decipher what mark wrote, but i'm somewhat
> >concerned cuz joni did understand!!!!  that scares me too!  tgif, huh, joni?
>
> ok, looks like i'm gonna have to clear this up once and for all:  ;o) ;o)
> here's the statement with punctuation:
>
> damn!  did i do that?  that should say "yeah, amy looked good there!"  i was
> looking, and i was like "amy in glasses!"
>
> now, that oughta do it!
>
> [sheesh mark, i can't believe so many didn't get that...i'm with ya, man...
> ;o)]
well thank u <g>

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i just had to delurk and jump on this bandwagon!

once upon a time i was in college. it was the summer between my freshman
and sophomore years (summer of 90) and i was hanging out at this cool
event called campus at noon where they had local performers on the steps
of the theater every day. sometimes they were good and sometimes they
were clearly not. but, one very hot sunny day these two guys got up
there, one playing the guitar and the other on percussion. i listened a
while, ate my lunch and dreaded the thought of going back to my
work-study job for the afternoon. and then they did ctf. i had never
heard it before and the close harmonies really caught my attention. i
thought "wow, these guys are really talented." they finished the song,
did a little ig plug and i was left with this warm-fuzzy feeling. so now
i'm thinking, "these guys are really talented and so are these indigo
girls people (whoever they are)."

a mere few weeks later i got one of those columbia house junk mail
envelopes. i didn't even own a cd player and i was dirt poor, but
something made me check this thing out. and right inside stood amy and
emily. well, not really, but you know what i mean. and i could get 10
cds for the price of 1. so i did a bit of rationalizing. if i didn't
like them then the cd was almost free anyway, right? i just had to hear
this ctf thing again.

and so i became the proud owner of the self-titled album (along with 9
other random cds ranging in taste from billy joel to milli vanilli). i
borrowed my boyfriend's cd player to tape it the same day. and i
listened to it over and over and over and over and over. you get the
idea. and then i was on a quest for all things indigo. i managed to get
my hands on botby and nis soon thereafter and became an unofficial ig
publicist, even though i still didn't know which one was amy and
couldn't tell who sang what part). of course, people thought i was
weird. "you say they sound kinda folky with a touch of rock and roll?
and their lyrics are profound? what the hell are you talking about?"

fast forward to the summer of 1992. i got a job at a girl scout camp.
yes, i am one of those camp people. all you girl scout people out there
know that this girl scout camp thing comes with a silly nickname. one
chooses a nickname and is forever called this name in their girl scout
life (the camp orientation materials suggested the name be one you
wouldn't mind responding to in the grocery store now or in 50 years).
and so i chose indigo. noone even knows who they are anyway. right?

the first day of camp arrives and here comes the assistant camp director
bearing a copy of rop, which i had never seen. she says "indigo... as in
these or the color?" finally! someone who has heard of amy and emily!
this woman was even from england and knew of them!

one very special day that summer brought the opportunity to hear rop 13
times. i was stuck answering the camp phone all day and the cd player in
the office had a magic repeat button. why i counted something like this
i will not know. i'm not sure it's relevant, but i also sort my m&ms by
color before i eat them (the blue ones go in the trash.... i do not eat
blue food, except maybe those blue specks on cool ranch doritos... which
spice is naturally blue anyway?). i digress.

all these little things are significant in my life, though i didn't know
it until the summer of 1993. i was back at camp and had a very busy
week. my car was parked in the blazing sun for over a week without even
a window cracked. i had a brainstorm one evening... car... sun...
heat... cassette tapes... uh-oh...

there were 15 tapes in my car - 14 of them nicely put away. the 15th
cassette was the self-titled album on one side with nis on the other.  i
braced myself as i examined the contents of my car: melted carmex on the
dashboard... a few dead mosquitoes...  a formerly wet bathing suit on
the seat... sand relocated from the long island sound... soda cups large
enough to park a jet ski in... and melted cassette tapes. i was nearly
having a coronary and then i saw the beloved ig tape, right where i left
it, in need of a minor dusting and a sound check. as i hadn't listened
to anything else in many months (maybe it was 3 years, who knows,
moderation has never been my strong point) it was still in the tape
player. so i fired that baby right up! it was a sign from the goddess.
there were the girls in perfect harmony! how could 14 out 15 tapes
practically melt beyond recognition and that 1 special amy and emily
tape be left with no ill effects? i decided i had best just shut up and
be grateful. if that is not a sign i don't know what is.

and so my love for amy and emily has evolved and grown. we've been to
hell and back several times together. their kinda like my favorite pair
of jeans, never tiring of them, always a comfort and someone is always
trying to get me to try something new.

my camp name has evolved a bit, too, even though i was told i would be
known as indigo forevermore. the campers, being silly, as they often
are, thought they might be able to annoy me if they called me indigo
schmindigo. at first it did annoy me and then i ignored it and then the
name stuck. and then it was shortened to a mere schmin.

and so it goes. i'm more often known as schmin than indigo, but i will
answer to either. you'll know me mostly as schmin on dalnet. when people
ask how i got my nickname, i look at my watch, take a deep breath and
begin my dissertation.

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hi! someone said they had tix available, but i deleted the message and
later found someone who needed a ticket for the 11th.  please e-mail me
privately if you have a ticket or the address of the original poster.
thanks,
reggi

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   oops, this may have confused people, but i made a big typo in my
review ...sorry for the confusion, but here's the correct account of the
romeo and juliet incident...
<snip>
someone in the center had a large "romeo
and juliet sign that amy sees and, at first, she smirks at...later she
says after a song "i see your request but we don't know how to play that now...
i forgot the words and if we tried _to play it now_ it would just suck..."
when they hold the sign up again at the end of the concert amy says
"maybe next time!":)
<snip>

also i received a question about why amy says the following...
<snip>
chickenman(with mr.buzzard and amy saying "i'm so sorry" under her breathe
after the line "five prarie dogs and a rabbit..."
<snip>
  in earlier concerts, from when they first started performing chickenman,
amy often had a soc(stream of consciousness) during which she explains
the meaning of chicken man...how she and em. were on a road trip to play
gigs and they stopped on the side of the road at this man's yard and she
thought it was a junk yard and asked if she could buy something, when in
fact it's a man's front yard...anyway, she also talks about the roadkill
in the road and how counts al;l the dead animals in the road she and
others have hit...so this is why she says, i think, this line "i'm so
sorry" under her breathe...it's to the animals...
don't ig lyrics justrock so much, so intense and emotion-filled, esp.
live in concert!
   just a side observation that struck me neat...eventho the uno arena
wasn't totally filled, a&e were so enthusiastic about their music, maybe
it was cuz they had a week off...but in anycase, after one of the songs,
emily goes:"i guess we should introduce some of the band" and this was
after playing many songs with the band already, they seemed thrown off
by their carelessness...
   also during the introductions there was some humorous exchange...
the guest guitarist from the borrowers was wearing a dress tuesday night
and emily commented "he looks really good in that dress" and amy
says"you know he must be secure in his manhood...really secure" later
when emily makes it over to sara lee in introductions she says "and
here's a girl who's secure with her manhood, sara lee." and amy replies
"yeah, and she'll be secure with your manhood too."
made us all chuckle cuz it was so spontaneous...
thought i'd share!

dave
dsue@bigfoot.com

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from:         "elizabeth m. bolles" <wishmonstr@aol.com>
subject:      where were you?  not where i was . . .

in a message dated 97-06-26 05:50:04 edt, tatonetti.2@osu.edu (lisa
tatonetti) writes:

<< flashback to 1989, along w/many of you. >>

you know, everyone's been writting in saying how old they feel now, but you
want to know what?  i'm feeling increasingly young with each 'where were
you?' post i read.  while you were all in college, watching mtv, going to
random concerts, suffering through high school, <what you were doing in 1989
here>, *i* was in elementary school.  and not fifth grade or anything
impressive!  first grade!  i was still getting happy face stamps on my report
cards.  i was learning how to add.  i could barely spell "closer" let alone
know what "prostrate" meant or who rasputin was.

ok, just had to vent .  . .

-elizabeth

* * * * * * * * * * * *
my former math teacher: "the indigo girls?  sure i know who they are.
they're the ones from england!"
me: god!  no!  those are the spice girls!  the indigo girls are politicaly
active acoustic folk type singers!  the spice girls are . . . sluts!"

http://members.aol.com/wishmonstr/ewebpg.htm
* * * * * * * * * * *

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subject:      michigan womyn's music festival news

i got my hands on a copy of the mwmf schedule today, and contrary to popular
belief (or at least to mark's belief...not the same thing, i know) and ig
aren't on it. however, the murmurs, dar williams, and ulali (among others) are.
kirsten

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<<  now my only problem is that i can't figure out which side of the
poster i like better. so i've decided to flip sides occasionally. just
wanted
to share...peace. >>

i would hang it suspended in the middle of the room.  that way you could see
both sides.  i'm not saying that's the practical way to do it, just the way i
would.


abby  =o)

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subject:      nigc-malone..mm, and seay...cs interview

i found myself with nothing to do on this beautiful friday afternoon
and i thought "hmmm..i could go outside, get excercise..soak up sun...
orrr i could stay indoors and surf the net."  i think we all know
what the obvious choice is there.

while surfing the web i found an interesting interview with michelle
malone and cooper seay..(same article, seperate interviews).  if
you'd like to check it out the address is:

http://www.flagpole.com/issues/05.22.96/womanmusic.html

if you guys find you can't access it because i screwed up the address
just tell me and i'll type it out and post it on the list.

gwen

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in a message dated 97-06-27 20:26:51 edt, edan@openix.com (sir edan) writes:h

hey all, this kid on the moe mailing list wrote it, and i lfelt others might
want to see what his thoughts were:

> from: brian hirschfield <golgi@castle.net>
> to: moe-l@netspace.org
> subject: music and religion
> date: thursday, june 26, 1997 6:20 pm
>
> okey dokey, i've been lurking for a good bit, but all the while,
pondering
> some serious stuff.  i finaly can articulate my thoughts, and feel that
> this is the place to do so.
>
> i have been doing a lot of thinking lately on the subject of why music
and
> certain kinds of music move me the way they do, why through the course of
> my life, my actions and consciousness are altered and affected by certain
> sounds i hear and want to hear, and even dont want to hear.  i've been
> doing a lot of thinking about what it is, really, in life that motivates
> me, drives me, makes me want and love, and what realy turns me "on", so
to
> speak.
>
> while most of the world says they believe in some sort of "god", you have
> to raise your eyebrow the same way you did when other people claimed
> there to be aliens hanging behind hale-bopp.  however, since so many
> people insist on this god thing, i'd say it relays some sort of human
need
> to know that we arent the most powerful things roaming around.  if you
> think about it, nothing is more average than a human being, and its
pretty
> depressing to think that this is as good as it gets as far as life forms
> go.  with this in mind, and a real reluctance to buy into the "invisible
> man" theory, i still have to wonder what it is that all of these people
> think is this superhuman thing, and why they are so sure of it, when none
> of them have ever substantially witnessed anything that would give them
> reason to believe such a thing.
>
> it is without question, in my mind, that there are more powerful entities
> in our realm than the human being.  there are in innumerate number of
> forces that overpower us on a daily basis.  think about our emotions,
> wants, needs, and desires.  while its well within the human capability to
> feel these feelings, we are overpowered and compromised, and often
plagued
> by them on a daily basis.  have you ever asked yourself why you feel the
> way you do sometimes?
>
> this leads me to a specific example.  music.  all of us here know what it
> feels like to blissfuly carried through the climax of mexico, or to be
> riding the adrenaline wave of meat, and various other instances where we
> have great feelings watching moe., and many other bands play.  the
> feelings are so strong, and unique to the particular situation, that we
> make it a priority to try and recreate these feelings as often as
> possible, by seeing the band play as often as we can, or by collecting
> tapes of their shows.  this becomes a culture for us.  you could call it
a
> religion.  a completely disorganized religion, where the belief is real,
> the feelings are real, and where everybodys experiences are completely
> personal.  its not the sole thing that guides us through life, like you
> traditionally think of when you think of religion.  its just one of the
> things that enhance us so much more than the thousands of mundane things
> we do everyday.  its also a spiritual belief in the power of music.  you
> arent going to be very interested in a 30 minute jam if you dont believe
> that the people playing arent going to take you somewhere beyond the
earth
> you know.  why would you ever believe that you could ever go "somewhere
> else" if you didnt believe in the power of music, and the people playing
> it?
>
> well, i guess i've said enough.  its a big mystery.  hope to see y'all at
> either yolk on fri, and/or further on sat (thanks jason), and/or/and/or
> possible jmp on sun (at irving plaza)
>
> brian hirschfield
  >>


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from:   edan@openix.com (sir edan)
sender: moe-l@netspace.org (moe mailing list)
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date: 97-06-27 20:26:51 edt

and the tapers are the scribes and apostles writing down the ideas and
beliefs of the musical prophets....

----------
> from: brian hirschfield <golgi@castle.net>
> to: moe-l@netspace.org
> subject: music and religion
> date: thursday, june 26, 1997 6:20 pm
>
> okey dokey, i've been lurking for a good bit, but all the while,
pondering
> some serious stuff.  i finaly can articulate my thoughts, and feel that
> this is the place to do so.
>
> i have been doing a lot of thinking lately on the subject of why music
and
> certain kinds of music move me the way they do, why through the course of
> my life, my actions and consciousness are altered and affected by certain
> sounds i hear and want to hear, and even dont want to hear.  i've been
> doing a lot of thinking about what it is, really, in life that motivates
> me, drives me, makes me want and love, and what realy turns me "on", so
to
> speak.
>
> while most of the world says they believe in some sort of "god", you have
> to raise your eyebrow the same way you did when other people claimed
> there to be aliens hanging behind hale-bopp.  however, since so many
> people insist on this god thing, i'd say it relays some sort of human
need
> to know that we arent the most powerful things roaming around.  if you
> think about it, nothing is more average than a human being, and its
pretty
> depressing to think that this is as good as it gets as far as life forms
> go.  with this in mind, and a real reluctance to buy into the "invisible
> man" theory, i still have to wonder what it is that all of these people
> think is this superhuman thing, and why they are so sure of it, when none
> of them have ever substantially witnessed anything that would give them
> reason to believe such a thing.
>
> it is without question, in my mind, that there are more powerful entities
> in our realm than the human being.  there are in innumerate number of
> forces that overpower us on a daily basis.  think about our emotions,
> wants, needs, and desires.  while its well within the human capability to
> feel these feelings, we are overpowered and compromised, and often
plagued
> by them on a daily basis.  have you ever asked yourself why you feel the
> way you do sometimes?
>
> this leads me to a specific example.  music.  all of us here know what it
> feels like to blissfuly carried through the climax of mexico, or to be
> riding the adrenaline wave of meat, and various other instances where we
> have great feelings watching moe., and many other bands play.  the
> feelings are so strong, and unique to the particular situation, that we
> make it a priority to try and recreate these feelings as often as
> possible, by seeing the band play as often as we can, or by collecting
> tapes of their shows.  this becomes a culture for us.  you could call it
a
> religion.  a completely disorganized religion, where the belief is real,
> the feelings are real, and where everybodys experiences are completely
> personal.  its not the sole thing that guides us through life, like you
> traditionally think of when you think of religion.  its just one of the
> things that enhance us so much more than the thousands of mundane things
> we do everyday.  its also a spiritual belief in the power of music.  you
> arent going to be very interested in a 30 minute jam if you dont believe
> that the people playing arent going to take you somewhere beyond the
earth
> you know.  why would you ever believe that you could ever go "somewhere
> else" if you didnt believe in the power of music, and the people playing
> it?
>
> well, i guess i've said enough.  its a big mystery.  hope to see y'all at
> either yolk on fri, and/or further on sat (thanks jason), and/or/and/or
> possible jmp on sun (at irving plaza)
>
> brian hirschfield

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i thought i'd share today the most spiritual experience i've had in a while.
my new guitar.
i visited her today at the store and paid some on her.
man, i know why amy ray writes songs like blood and fire.
and i know she was writing it about a black guitar.........

sincerely
me(angie)

(i'm in love with her (my guitar) and i feel fine.....)

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yeah angie

i just got a lovely black mandolin today to join my own black guitar, they
are
a joy.

regards,
sandy

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hey all... i went and found this interview... you need to go to:

  http://www.flagpole.com/issues/05.22.96/womenmusic.html

that ought to do it!

see ya,
    twink!  (bridget)

   *******
    amy:  "i'm always kickin' things over!"
    emily:  "you're so rowdy!"
    amy:  "sprawlin'... flailin'..."
   *******

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subject:      ig moment/deja vu...

well, hello everyone...

i was at the store a few moments ago when i got a whiff of some very familiar
perfume.  i instantly flashbacked to every ig concert i've ever been to and
realized that it was the same perfume that i smell by the end of every
concert.

now for my question...

does anyone know what perfume amy and emily wear???   i love the smell and am
dying to get it.

ruthie <--- who realizes that she sounds completely psycotic and doesnt'
really
                care!!!    ;-d

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>
> does anyone know what perfume amy and emily wear???   i love the smell and am
> dying to get it.
>
it's called sweat.
kirsten

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>the beginning:
>
>d(something):  002302
>
>then it seems to shift to:
>
>020302
>
>after that, i get lost. i think the tuning is off a bit. i think the low e
>*might* possibly been turned down to d. ida know.  hope this sparks some
>practicing!
>
>-liz-

[lurk mode off]

i could be way off on this, but i think i worked out the chords to be:
(capo ii) am/am7 / dm  / e/esus4
(esus4 = 022300)
it sounded right, anyway. of course i could be mistaken as i don't have my
guitar in my hands right now. just some input. :)

______tracey lavigne (rlavigne@nbnet.nb.ca)______
"up is a sign in the sky, spray paint letters on
  cardboard on two poles, and it says 'chickenman,'
     and my heart is full again." -- amy ray

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subject:      re: appearances/rare records

whoa, i'm glad lisa cleared that up - i was thinking _jim_ morrison!
i know that a book of his poetry was published....
peace,
fran e.

on fri, 27 jun 1997 lisa tatonetti <tatonetti.2@osu.edu> writes:
>c'mon now. toni morrison's one of e's fav authors (and william
faulkner's
>one of morrison's biggest influences).  you're slippin' on the ig trivia
>here....or am i letting my english teacher mode take over????
>:)lisa
>
>>fri, 27 jun 1997 15:22:38 mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>>that i dont know
>
>
>>on fri, 27 jun 1997, joanie wrote:
>>> yeah but aren't they like famous authors or summin?
>>> ;)
>>> jendy
>
>>> on fri, 27 jun 1997, lisa tatonetti wrote:
>>> > it's kinda like reading morrison or faulkner.  ya' gotta insert the
>>> > punctuation in your head. :)
>>> > lisa

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wow, i love you kirsten.
>>
>> does anyone know what perfume amy and emily wear???   i love the smell and am
>> dying to get it.
>>
>it's called sweat.
>kirsten
>
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>environment if it came up and bit them on the ass!"--melissa garcia  | dead! :d
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im gong away for a day so if by some quirk u get bounced mail from me dont
un sub me ill be back sunday and clear it al out

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>hey all... i went and found this interview... you need to go to:
>
>  http://www.flagpole.com/issues/05.22.96/womenmusic.html
>
>that ought to do it!
>
>see ya,
>    twink!  (bridget)

hey bridget - i tried this url and it says "file not found" i double checked
it to make sure i didn't have any typos, and still nothing.. do you have it
on a bookmark so you could possibly check for a typo on your part in this post??
thanks alot,

mik :d

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ok, ok, !!    i know you are tired of hearing my plea, but at this point
i would die for reserved tix to berkely.  there's got to be someone with
extras.  time is running out!   help       mel

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from:         hunterj1@aol.com
subject:      administrative requests - a note from jude:)

from time to time i get requests for techy list maneuvers so let me take this
op to let you know that i am not the one...'tis jude shabry who rules the
list :)  a long time ago we agreed to sign off our posts as <jude> that's her
and <jude> that's me.  but hey, anything i can do to help, just let me
know....  and now that we have sherlyn .. but then, damn, my *middle name* is
sherlyn!!  <just kidding >

besides, i'v been to jude's home page and believe me she's way better looking
:)

jude :)

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date:         sat, 28 jun 1997 06:31:04 -0400
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subject:      boot trees :) -  msg and mercury lounge

just heard from donna and she says she will announce the boot tree and
dubbers for the madison square garden 6-3-97 and mercury lounge 6-2-97 shows
on wednesday.  so stock up this weekend on 110 min tapes.  i found mine at
record town.

jude :)

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date:         sat, 28 jun 1997 12:45:50 +0500
reply-to:     sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
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>where can i see amy in glasses?  like in glasses you need to see, or cool
>glasses?

as a wearer of glasses from the age of 10 months (i'm nearly 27 now....
years not months) i have to say that *all* glasses are cool :) i've seen
amy wearing glasses a few times...... very cute :)


where was i...... standing in the pouring rain at the 1992 newport folk
festival wishing that i was somewhere warm and dry. i stuck around because
i was already soaked to the skin and i wanted to see mary chapin carpenter
and joan baez..... i had no idea who ig were..... i spoke to amy without
knowing who she was :)

take care
sharon

ps. sheryl crow on monday, ani on wednesday and london pride here i come!!!!

sharon. a. jennings
cancer research campaign laboratories
univesity of nottingham
university park
nottingham
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date:         sat, 28 jun 1997 08:12:37 edt
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subject:      i'm off to atlanta!

hi folks!  i'm getting ready to leave for atlanta to go to my friends'
wedding (hi allison & will!) late this afternoon and for pride on sunday.
i know there are a few listees going to pride, and i'd like to meet up with
some of you.  i will be going to see michelle malone play tonight at my sister's
room on monroe street. for identification purposes, i am 5' 1", average
weight, with short-to-medium length brown hair.  i'll be wearing my
green michelle malone shirt that has that funny looking cat drawing on
the front that says "never eat anything bigger than your head."  i will
be by myself tonight.  tomorrow, some friends and i will be going to the
parade and watching the concerts in the park.  i'll be wearing my list
shirt.  for those who haven't seen the most recent list shirt, it's natural
color, with two guitar-playing stick figures in a maroon and mustard colored
box on the left chest, and a really cool amy soc with emily's lyrics
interspersed.  hope i get to meet some of you :)

off to hotlanta!

peace,

joan :-d

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hey everyone,

i've been meaning to do this for at least a month; now that i'm
officially on holidays i guess i don't have any more excuses not
to.  so, here goes with sherlyn's impressions of "shaming of the
sun".  this is going to be long and fairly nitpicky, so consider
yourselves warned...

on the album in general: yay.  for the most part, i love it.
amy and emily did a fine job on production.  some things i think
would have been better if they'd had an outside producer (in
particular, emily's diction), but on the whole, the creative
freedom that a&e gained by being their own producers has yielded
some really spectacular results!

someone mentioned a while back that they thought sots didn't
really sound finished.  i think this is due to the fact that the
production process of sots was obviously much more of a "free
for all" than for any of the previous albums.  if you listen to,
say, "rites of passage", you'll hear that it's much more slickly
produced and polished - not a note out of place.  sots is
definitely a big step in the opposite direction!  still, a
little roughness can be good at times - or at least i think so.

on amy: man, amy sounds good.  her songwriting just seems to get
better and better too.  in general i think she sounds much more
laidback vocally than she ever has before.  she still knows how
to wring every last ounce of passion out of a note though!  and
it's great to hear her hitting those high notes and sounding so
damn good!  and i think it's kinda cute that she's soloing now
too. :)

on emily: vocally, i don't think emily sounds as though she's
quite at her best; she sounds a trifle strained in places.  and
in parts her diction is absolutely appalling!  in fact, emily's
diction is probably my biggest gripe about the album as a whole.
also, i was hoping for a few more songs of the calibre of "the
wood song" but apart from eiiot, none of her songs really hit me
in that special emily way.  but, she's still emily and that counts
for a heck of a lot. :)

on the instrumentation in general: sara lee is a genius - how
does she come up with all those brilliant bass lines?  jerry, on
the other hand, is a little over-elaborate in places for my taste.
ulali sound great.  a&e's acoustic guitars sound great too -
they're wonderfully "spiky", for want of a better word.  overall
the electrics also sound excellent, although there's a bit too
much feedback and distortion here and there, i think.

on the songs:
1. "shame on you": this is possibly the catchiest thing amy's ever
written.  rock and roll, baby - great driving music. :) i wish the
opening chords had a trifle more punch, but the acoustic guitar
part more than makes up for that.  i also think that steve earle's
vocals are way too soft.  but overall - one of the best songs on
the album.  great stuff - it picks you up and drags you, dancing
happily, along with it.

2. "get out the map": i don't really like the intro - emily's
vocals in the first two lines are a little lacklustre and the
bongos don't really add anything.  the rest of the song's
brilliant though - beautiful harmonies and i love the way emily
hits the word "why" in the second verse.  i'm actually a little
disappointed this song is so short.

3. "shed your skin": my friend andrew pretty much summed up my
feelings for this song the other day: "louder please!"  love it!
amy sounds highly sexy and sara's bass is major league brilliant.
ulali add something almost feral to the mix.  this is
a brilliant piece of work - dark, full of tribal magic and
super sexy.

4. "it's alright": a&e's vocals both sound great but i think the
message of this song isn't given its full due because the
production is a little, well, lightweight.  it could do with...
i'm not sure what.  more bass, more something.  i don't like
jerry's drumming pattern very much either.  great guitar solo from
emily though.  [side note: my vote for weirdest effect used on the
album is (drumroll) that bizarre echo on jerry's drum in the
middle of the second verse.  what's up with that?]

5. "caramia": i busted one of the speakers in my car listening to
this the other week. :)  this is a great song - i love its
broodiness and that great guitar riff.  sara did a great job on
the strings.  all those layered sounds, topped off by great vocals
from both girls - very dramatic.  about that diction thing - "i
was home layder"... "will you get bedder..." - ack!  but i really
really do like this song.

6. "don't give that girl a gun": don't cry amy!  she sounds like
she's ripped her heart out and put it right there bleeding on her
sleeve.  this song is practically perfect - i've loved it ever
since i heard it last year and it's just gotten better since then.
michael lorant's voice fits right in.  poor amy - this song makes
me just want to hug her and cry right along.  someone give that
girl a blankie and some throat lozenges - she sounds like she needs
them after those final "yeah"s...

7. "leeds": i don't really like this song very much.  i think it's
the lyrics - they just don't do anything for me.  so i don't think
i can really comment because it wouldn't be objective or something.

8. "scooter boys": i must say, i'm very impressed that they managed
to squeeze a 3-minute song out of what is essentially a chorus and
two verses of four lines each.  (it's about the same length as gotm
but has about 1/10th of the total words.)  this song really rocks!
but is it just me or does it sound more like they're singing
"blight of the indians" (not "blood") the first time around?  i
think the breakdown section especially kicks butt, and amy's
acoustic guitar sounds so aggressive it's beautiful.  rock on!

9. "everything in its own time": i don't like the album version of
this quite as much as i thought i would but for my money, this is
still the best emily song on the album by far.  major goosebump
territory.  i really like the atmosphere of this song - "weary and
wise" is how it's been described and i think that's just what it
is.  i especially love the pathos (that probably isn't the right
word) that lisa germano adds with her violin.  great stuff.

10. "cut it out": i'm not so sure i like the vocal filter amy's
using here, and there's some echo stuff going on in the first
chorus after the alaska verse that's a little strange too.  she's
really singing her heart out though - more great rock'n'roll.  i
like the way it sort of dies out then comes back for a crashing
ending.  hit those high notes, amy!  does anyone else find it odd
that five people are credited with playing the piano?  hm.

11. "burn all the letters": i have quite a few issues with this
song, but i do like it overall.  can anyone else hear the
(uncredited) electric guitar behind the second part of the first
verse?  this song is also the biggest offender in the "bad
diction by emily" category - "burn all the ledders... send them on
before ya go."  hm.  and it seems to me that branding something in
view would actually achieve the exact opposite effect of the one
em's going for (ie make it permanent).  and (last criticism, i
swear) that key change before the second verse is kind of odd,
as is the almost-key change right after the bridge.  however, on
the positive-comment side, i think this is emily's best vocal
track on the album.  i really like what ulali add, especially
during the bridge.  overall, a funky track that i have a few
(minor) quibbles with.

12. "hey kind friend": it actually surprises me just how much i
like this song.  i never was that impressed with it on the demo
tour; then again, it's hard to hear a song as quiet as this when
there are thousands of people screaming around you. :)  great
whistle solo from sara, and i really like the way the dulcimer
picks up the melody of the hymn right at the end, and that
incredibly tasteful electric guitar.  i could probably do
without the not-quite-coordinated fadeout at the end though.

boy, that turned out long.  i bet no one even made it this
far. :)  take care everyone... i'm off to try to reclaim some of
the bed that my cat is sleeping in...

happy happy all,
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    "my ears are lucky to hear these
     glorious songs of inspiration,
     and voices crafted from thunder;
     the power of life..."      - happy rhodes

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date:         sat, 28 jun 1997 11:07:56 -0400
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i have long suspected that there was a significant contingant of camp people
who were also die-hard ig fans!

with everyone coming out about experiencing the ig at camp,
i just wanted to say that...

at my first ig concert (the 10$ tour, at the boathouse in va)
which had no seats (none that i saw anyway),
i kept telling my gf, throughout the entire concert,
that everyone here looks like either a cit (counselor-in-training),
or a camp staff member.
i felt right at home.

...so happy to actually have that confirmed :)
deb

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date:         sat, 28 jun 1997 11:20:57 -0400
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subject:      calling p.j. battaglino

hi yah :)  got your 110 min blank tape.  pls let me know what it is i am
dubbing for you!

jude :)

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date:         sat, 28 jun 1997 12:13:38 edt
reply-to:     kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
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from:         kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
subject:      jenny korn, please contact me (nigc)

sorry to waste bandwidth, but if you're jenny korn, please contact me--i lost
your email address and need to communicate with you about the pulse magazine
i'm sending you.
kirsten

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date:         sat, 28 jun 1997 10:20:52 -0700
reply-to:     da chickenman <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>
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hey kind friends!

        yep, they played that one last night in austin!! :)  the girls
opened with thin line...
        josh segal was missing and i never heard an explantation as to why??
emily commented that there were more bugs friday night then on thursday
night in austin (remember a bug flew into her mouth in houston on wed :o)
and then a bug flew down amy's shirt right after that!   if you like bugs
come to texas! :o
        the crowd was awesome as always...austin rocks!!! :)

highlights:

        chickenman - the most lengthy and unusual chickenman i've ever
heard.  at the part of the song where the soc usually goes, *emily* sang a
segment of "real good for free" by joni mitchell.  is that weired or what??
i mean i love real good for free, but it seemed very strange in a c-man
song.  the tempos are so vastly different and the relationship between the
subject matter seems dubious.
        then amy went into cortez the killer which lasted a long time and
was muy fabulouso! :)
        then... amy went into her new soc that she did on scooter boys at
the woodlands two nights earlier.   it's basically the zapatisa/chiapas soc
... talking about the mexican indians fighting the government and trying to
get water from the hills, but it's never enough... and the people are hungry
and oppressed <something to that effect>
        wow!!!

        shed your skin -  sara lee *began* sys with a tremendous bass riff.
similar to the missing bass solo she does toward the end of sys on the cd,
but which she has not been doing in concerts for some reason? :o

        redemption songs - amy covered bob marley's "redemption songs"
solo...i was in heaven!!  :)

        the women were dressed great again, except amy started out the show
with one of those wide-lapel shirts (white w/ yellow flowers), but she later
changed to a blue t-shirt with some design on the front.  amy was also
wearing white jeans, a black belt, and what looked like new black hiking shoes.
        emily looked superb!  she had on army-green cotton pants, an
extremely nice looking shirt in plaid shades of yellow and white and some
brand new maroon hiking boots :)
        the girls seemed to enjoy themselves very much!  we had a pretty
neat post-concert list gathering at kerby lane, "hi" to everyone i saw there!

        oh, i got to see lift open last night and they were great.  the
whole band is very talented!  the bass player for lift, julie clark had a
mock tattoo on her arm which said "sara lee rules" :)

        well, <sniffles> this will be my last concert review for a long
time.  it'll probably be next year before i see them again :(
        but it's been a great year! :) :)

        so, i'll see you in new orleans or i'll see you around, cause i
don't know if these highs will be coming down.... ar

        all i've ever had .... redemption songs, these songs of freedom,
songs of freedom.... bob marley


i       tony, da chickenman - houston, texas, usa       g
n                                                       i
d       not content to bow and bend to the whims        r
i       of culture that swoop like vultures eating      l
g       us away to our extinction -  emily saliers      s
o

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date:         sat, 28 jun 1997 13:58:09 -0400
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from:         erica weinstein <mkw007@aol.com>
subject:      hello

hi.  my name is erica and i am new here.  i first heard the girls in camp
(shocker).  i did not decide to post until i saw that someone has a boot of
the msg show.  i was there and i was blown away (if anyone was there, i was
the chick in the fourth row dancing around in the little dead dress and
throwing hearts).  i would love to get a copy of it.  i have been trading a
lot of boots lately and i am also looking for blue food, shades of indigo,
and any ani or dar.  if you are interested in trading, please e-mail me.

erica

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date:         sat, 28 jun 1997 15:03:09 -0400
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subject:      and this just in from my more serious side...

american airlines combats homophobia


american airlines is a major sponsor to and supporter of groups
like glaad, the human rights campaign, the gay and lesbian
victory fund, the aids action foundation, diffa, amfar, and
scores of community-based groups representing gays and lesbians.
it is also the first airline to adopt a written
non-discrimination policy covering sexual orientation in its
employment practices.

an unusual joint letter was released to the media on friday,
march 14th from the family research council, concerned women of
america, american family association and coral ridge ministries.
radical right leader beverly lahaye also went on christian "talk
radio" on friday to blast american airlines because "american's
sponsorship of homosexual 'pride' events constitutes an open
endorsement of promiscuous homo-sexuality."  she and the other
groups have written bob crandall at american to complain
that the airline has "gone beyond mere tolerance" of gays and
lesbians. the full article appeared in the fort worth
star-telegram.

it has come to the attention of the human rights community that
american airline's switchboard and e-mails are being bombarded
now by homophobic and hateful callers who have been urged by
lahaye and others to demand the company terminate its
gay-friendly policies.

what you can do:

contact american airlines and let them know that you support
their gay/lesbian rights polices and commend them for their
efforts to end discrimination.

e-mail:  webmaster@amrcorp.com

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date:         sat, 28 jun 1997 15:32:24 -0400
reply-to:     elise <emf@lightlink.com>
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hi everyone!  i have some tickets available for the following shows.  please
e-mail privately if interested.

2 tix/general admiss  lilith fair, salem, or, sunday, july 6, 4pm  $42.90 each
2 tix/lawn  jacksonville, or,  monday, july 7, 7pm $23.00 each
4 tix/general admission    champoeg state park,  july 9, 7pm  $29.00 each
4 tix/general admission    champoeg state park,  july 10, 7pm  $29.40 each

thanks,
elise

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date:         sat, 28 jun 1997 16:11:09 -0400
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from:         "elizabeth m. bolles" <wishmonstr@aol.com>
subject:      re: humiliating musical tastes, and then a boot plea

first - the embarassing music:

well, i don't listen to much in the way of humiliating (though some would
probably feel my paul simon box set fits the bill . . .) music, but the
closest would be meatloaf: bat out of hell 2, back into hell.  the most
embarassing cd i own, though, would have to be joey lawrence.  is my face red
. . . also, i still know all the words to kris kross' big single "i missed
the bus" (i was up! (he was up!) but i lay back down, figurin' i could chill
'til the time came round.  and i did! (he did!) but a little too long and by
da time i woke up: yo da bus was gone!  i missed the bus . . .)

my plea:

i'm going to camp in three weeks <burst into singing: "lochearn spirit never
dead, our bones gonna rise again!">, and thus am signing off the list.  i
don't know if i'll be back on. (more on this subject at the appropriate time)
anway, i would really love to get my grubby little hands on:

da chickenman's carnage tape
98.5/mamakin tape

if i could get those two things i'd be forever in debt!  e-mail be privately
(wishmonstr@aol.com).  thanks!

-elizabeth

* * * * * * * * * * * *
"i missed the bus, and dat is sumptin' i will never ever ever do again!"

http://members.aol.com/wishmonstr/ewebpg.htm
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date:         sat, 28 jun 1997 16:57:07 -0400
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from:         "karrie a. bowen" <karrie@ncinter.net>
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hey y'all!

i know someone has started the cover song thread before, but i am just
sitting her thinking f all the songs i wish i could hear them do....

so, on a slightly different note, if you could design a playlist of ig and
cover songs to toal 10 that you would want to hear a & e play for your won
private concert, what would they be?

mine are, in order.....
1.  back together again
2.  airplane
3.  you left it up to me
4.  everything i own , by bread....amy on lead vocal
5.  come monday, by jimmy buffett....em on lead vocal
6.  walk away
7.  ghost
8.  sundown, by gordon lightfoot...amy on lead vocal
9.  a horse with no mane, by america....amy on lead vocal
10.  sunshine, by jonathan edwards...em on lead vocal

encore:
hammer and a nail!!!!  ;)

there's my private concert....what's yours??

peace, love and ig-
karrie

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from:         liz turcotte <lturcotte@star.net>
subject:      re: my christmas wish in the summer....
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>so, on a slightly different note, if you could design a playlist of ig
>and cover songs to toal 10 that you would want to hear a & e play for
>your won private concert, what would they be?

cool thread! here's my setlist:

1) land of canaan
2) time flies (by melissa ferrick)
3) there's a bug in my potato salad (by me)
4) ice cream (by sarah mclachlan)
5) galileo
6) mystery
7) cinnimon girl (by neil young)
8) blueberry pie (by bette midler) (emily lead vocal)
9) sunshiny day (the brady bunch kids)
10) interplanet janet (schoolhouse rock)

encore:

mission impossible theme song

ok, ok...so i got a little silly by the end. *sheepish grin* that's what i
get for spending too much time out in the sun today!

>9.  a horse with no mane, by america....amy on lead vocal

umm....a horse with no...mane? uh oh...mr limes. i think it's a horse with
no *name*......

-lizzzzzz-

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date:         sat, 28 jun 1997 20:28:06 -0400
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subject:      where were you...

hi everyone!!

          great thread!!!!!!!! we (rachel and i ) are having a great time
reading all of the memories....
       where was i?.......... well  it was 1988, i was in a car driving down
the streets of tacoma wa.  my  girlfriend  at the time  handed me a tape ,
just after  breaking up with me ,and said she hoped it made things easier (i
lived in music)... on one side there was "indigo girls" the other side had
"strange fire".... i must say they  more than helped..... they were my
lifeline...........and have been since......for many years i only listened to
their music , and have, at every given opportunity, tried to convert others
to  ig life..(do i get a toaster oven for that?  :-) )
i thank the girls for their words of inspiration and i thank my higher power
for  their continued presence in my life.....
as for rachel, she said she first heard them in 1992.  a friend of hers had
rop and the friend said she could listen to any song except r & j!  (the
friend is extremely "bothered" by anything remotely lesbian)  rachel was
looking for a song to put on a mixed tape and thought that "ghost" sounded
right.  she listened to an entire album for the first time while sanding a
wooden rail on a boat (may 1995).  she most vividly remembers the epiphany of
sunshine and  ig music.  at that instant she knew her life had changed
forever.

     just an aside (rachel here):  my brother was driving my twin nieces
home, the sots cassette was playing, my brother turned down the volume and,
elisa, 4 years old next month, yelled out "turn it up, daddy!!!"  *sigh*  i'm
such a proud aunt :)

banjo dancin'
chris & rachel :))))))))))

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i think this is a cool thread....so cool that i am actually posting something
on the list, which i never do. i often envision being lucky enough to have
amy and emily in my living room, ready and able to perform any song i
request..... (in no particular order)
1. strange fire
2. secure yourself
3. hammer and a nail
4. language or the kiss
5. love will come to you
6. bethlehem- paula cole
7. prince of darkness
8. hand me downs
9. the wood song
10. watershed
encore: kid fears with michael stipe!

always hoping,
        becky o.

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at 04:18 pm 6/27/97 -0400, joni cyr wrote:
>ok, looks like i'm gonna have to clear this up once and for all:  ;o) ;o)
>here's the statement with punctuation:
>
>damn!  did i do that?  that should say "yeah, amy looked good there!"  i was
>looking, and i was like "amy in glasses!"


        thanks joni for the clarication of mark's statement, b/c i had
punctuated it this way :o

damn, did i do that?  that should say, "yeah, amy looked good!  there i was
looking and i was like amy in glasses".

        sometimes, punctutation *can* affect the meaning of your sentence...

henry d. thoreau, esquire
aka chickenboy ;)

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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      tickets and stuff (igc, for once!)

hey there bozo the clowns,

here's some news from my friend lori from another list:

**********
got a favor to ask of you - we've got some tix for the 7/2/97 ig show that
we need to sell.  we got nearly front row (on the side) seats instead!
could you post this to the ig list?  i'm not subbed to that anymore.

for sale:
5 tickets to the indigo girls 7/2/97
greek theatre,  los angeles, 8 pm
michelle malone scheduled to open
5 tickets in row r of the north terrace (near front rail)
$30 each (face value)

email lori at shiras@earthlink.net asap!!!

****
so if you're interested please email the phenomenal rock star babe lori
shiraishi and tell her mommy sent ya. and she won't even make bizarro comments
about cheese!

h+k,
susanna
who fears she was phyllis schlafly in a past life

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> ---------- snip snip  ----------
> date: sat, 28 jun 1997 23:59:07 +1000
> from: sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
>
> on the songs:
> 1. "shame on you": this is possibly the catchiest thing amy's ever
> written.  rock and roll, baby - great driving music. :) i wish the
> opening chords had a trifle more punch, but the acoustic guitar
> part more than makes up for that.  i also think that steve earle's
> vocals are way too soft.  but overall - one of the best songs on
> the album.  great stuff - it picks you up and drags you, dancing
> happily, along with it.

maybe it's just my pessimism dragging me way off base, but i have never
looked at soy as a 'happy' song despite the upbeat rhythm, catchy tune,
and major key.  the contradiction between the musical qualities and the
lyrics seems to lead a tongue-in-cheek quality to the song that makes it
impossible for me to view as happy.  the "la la la shame on you" chorus
has a "na na na boo boo" taunting-ness (to coin a word).  and then to name
the song, "shame on you!"

i just thaought that the song was about people not being able to get past
their differences despite a desire to leave them behind--not being able to
escape others' racism and stereotypes.  amy is the one being "taunted"
through most of the song.  ironically, in the last verse, the tauntee
becomes the taunter--that cycle doesn't seem to be a good thing to me.

steve

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at 11:59 pm 6/28/97 +1000, sherlyn koo wrote:
>on amy: ... and i think it's kinda cute that she's soloing now
>too. :)

huh!??  what about the color me grey tape, squeaky fromme, blood and fire,
romeo & juliet, in addition to the newer, chiapas bound, hey kind friend and
redemption songs?

on emily: ... her diction is absolutely appalling!  in fact, emily's
>diction is probably my biggest gripe about the album as a whole.
...(re: caramia)  about that diction thing - "i was home layder"... "will
you get bedder..." - ack!  ... this song (batl) is also the biggest offender
in the "bad diction
by emily" category - "burn all the ledders... send them on before ya go."  hm.

        jeeeze sherlyn.  this is coloquial language throughout the southern
united states!  this language reflects the mixture of the many heritages in
southern culture.
in louisiana, for instance, there are many interesting varieties of
subcultures including the creole, cajun and native-american cultures.  there
is a rich history behind these cultures and their languages or patois.
        and whatever happened to poetic license?  i thought artists (and
individuals) should be able to express themselves as they wish?  loosen up
on the syntax of the lyrics and you will find it much more enjoyable!

later y'all~

i       tony, da chickenman - houston, texas, usa       g
n                                                       i
d       not content to bow and bend to the whims        r
i       of culture that swoop like vultures eating      l
g       us away to our extinction -  emily saliers      s
o

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hi,

i was just in pleasanton and the borders there still has 8 copies of the
promo video.  i tried to get one without buying sots, but the
salesperson was very insistent that the video was a promotional item
only with the ig cd.

borders is right off of 580, you can see it from the freeway.

indigo wishes and indigo dreams,
leticia
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<< hey all, sorry to waste the bw but i was wondering if any of you out there
who recorded the june 06 ppv concert would be willing to make me a copy of
the videotape.  my cable company didn't carry the show and i would love to
see it.   i would be willing to pay $$  or trade or -?-
  >>

i'm in the same boat as cheryl (didn't have access to the ppv show).  i'd
also like a copy.  help!?

kathleen   kef1330@aol.com

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