lifeblood: listlogs: 1997-08a


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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 00:28:50 -0400
reply-to:     rmason1106@aol.com
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from:         resa mason <rmason1106@aol.com>
subject:      igc vancouver, bc lilith fair

i just got tix to the above show and i'm psyched. i went to the first show at
the gorge and i will be going to the last show now too. amy & emily will be
there to boot!
are any other listees attending? please email me privately if you have any
info on hotels, campgrounds etc. i've gathered quite a bit already from
various web sites but i don't know how far the places are from the venue.

thanks - resa

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date:         thu, 31 jul 1997 22:48:59 -0700
reply-to:     aml@scn.org
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from:         ann m labeck <aml@scn.org>
subject:      ig on the top ten concert list!

so, there they are on the list (through july 22) of the top ten
biggest grossing (that's $$, not gross-out, k?) concerts.  the
girls are at number 7.

here's the info:

> 7. indigo girls, the billy tipton memorial saxaphone quartet.
>$394,625.  berkeley, calif. july 5-6.

just had to share.

ann

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date:         thu, 31 jul 1997 22:51:57 -0700
reply-to:     "a. taub" <alisont@netcom.com>
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subject:      belated l.a. show review
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here's a little review of the l.a. show that i just came across.  just
goes to show you there's no point rushing out to the parking lot and
sitting in your car behind a million other cars... sigh!

warning - especially to extreme amy fans - the end of the review is
brutally adorable.  you might want to be sitting down with a trusted loved
one near by before you read it ..... don't say i didn't warn you!

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(from the music column of lesbian news, by heidi hudson)

indigo girls
live at the greek theater
july 2, 1997

the first of a two-night stint at the beautiful greek theater nuzzled in
the loz feliz hills, the indigo girls (a.k.a. amy ray and emily saliers)
rocked the sold-out summer crowd acoustica style.  plugged-in and playing
with a full band this time around, the girls played almost a full two-hour
set.  surprisingly they opened with their older hits from rights of
passage (1992) and swamp ophelia (1994) before warming the crowd to their
new altruistic and electric sound of shaming of the sun (1997).  amy and
emily balanced the cool summer evening by alternating their ballads and
folk-rock tunes throughout the evening.  the true highlight of the night
occurred after the show when amy mistakenly walked outside the green room
around 11:00 p.m. into a sea of last minute departing female fans who drew
a silence so deep the president would have looked!  one young fan started
crying she was so startled by her goddess's presence among the common
folk, notwithstanding the ever-wise amy simply reached out to the girl,
shook her hand and said, "don't cry honey! i'm just your peer."  the whole
crowd went ahhhhh before bombarding her with autograph and picture
requests.

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"misanthropy, yes, misogyny, no" - peter greenaway
alison  -  alisont@netcom.com

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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 02:33:52 -0400
reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      re: decatur '87 vid boot offer - euro format only!
x-to:         seona <sb2@axe.humboldt.edu>
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dont yeah yet he has to get me a copy of it first

on thu, 31 jul 1997, seona wrote:

> yeahhh!!!!
>
> on thu, 31 jul 1997, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>
> > rachel if you can get me a copy of this boot i can convert it to ntsc
> > standard
> >
> >
> > on thu, 31 jul 1997, rachel sefton-smith wrote:
> >
> > > woooaaahh there!!!!
> > >
> > > glad to see so many of you interested, but there's some confusion i should
> > > clear up - i can only offer this boot in pal format - this is the video
> > > standard for uk, europe, oz etc and is different from the usa ntsc format...
> > >
> > > i'll leave it to connie to post if she's going to offer it in the usa.
> > >
> > > chhers,
> > >
> > > seffy
> > >
> > > (oops - just got back from long lunch at the pub...*hic*...i can see i'm
> > > going to get a lot of wokr done this afternoon!)
> > >
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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 07:50:43 -0500
reply-to:     jo and gary harney <jgharney@advicom.net>
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from:         jo and gary harney <jgharney@advicom.net>
subject:      nashville lf show
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does anyone have one extra ticket for this show???  i really want to go,
but i don't want to go alone.  :(  anyone??

sue
jgharney@iquest.com

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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 10:08:57 -0400
reply-to:     lmd21@aol.com
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from:         lmd21@aol.com
subject:      nigc- l.f. wi

hey y'all--
  sorry for the nigc....i was wondering if anyone knew of any cheap
motel/hotel rooms that are near the marcus ampitheatre in milwaukee...cheap
is best.
thanks,
lauren

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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 07:11:21 -0700
reply-to:     "kim: goddess in her own reality" <rcn@prcn.org>
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from:         "kim: goddess in her own reality" <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      soy on cmt and that there conversion stuff:-)
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<achem>
kim breaks forth from the semi-lurk mode she's been in for the past while +
taps:
hey all... just wondering if soy is getting as much play time on american
country tv as it is up here... seems like every time i turn around it's on
cmt, despite the fact that it's no country song:-) hmmmm, i guess all those
tricky dancin' fools on the video make it an eye pleaser ( and they just
*gotta* love the music ) for the country-kinda public.
yesterday it was on the two times i just happened to surf on thru the
channels... caught it halfway thru the 1st time + at the beginning the next.
there was a tape in my vcr so i commenced to taping... only to discover that
i'd not added to my music videos tape... but had tagged the ending of "a day
in the life" on my xena tape with the girls:-) ah well... lol
just got back from a wonderful camping trip... the weather here has been
beautiful:-) am tanned + rested... swam all day... sat by campfires at
night... star gazed...breathed fresh salty air all day... ate oysters cooked
over the fire etc etc etc... but i gots to tell you 'bout one really fun
thing that happened this trip. i don't bring music along camping unless it's
a friend with a guitar:-) but my gf, heather... the mellissa fan, borrowed
my shaming the sun, 1200 curfews and indigo-girls cd's + took them along...
i know i announced her conversion ( + adoration of amy... i be an emily
person, myself ) a ways back on the list... but apparently that wasn't
enuff... cause i bin' checkin' my mail religiously and *still* no %$#@
toaster oven:-(
so... anyways...heather's been so thouroughly converted that she spent most
of *her* laying in the sun relaxing time listening to the girls:-) the
conversion? it was *so* easy... all i had to do was take her to a live
concert <kim smacks her forehead with the palm of her hand> why didn't i
think of this before??? anyways... am wondering if this qualifies me now???
do i get my toaster oven now, huh huh huh??? i got *so* many things what
need toastin'....
peace all... kim ( goddess o' doughy bread... )
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the flesh is strong the spirit stronger, so shed your
skin baby, let it through... comeonovernow!!!!... amy ray
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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 07:33:01 -0700
reply-to:     "kim: goddess in her own reality" <rcn@prcn.org>
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from:         "kim: goddess in her own reality" <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      re: amy/emily
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at 03:54 pm 7/31/97 edt, enolf@vnet.ibm.com wrote:
>is anyone else as continually surprised as i am that the two girls shift
>to suit each other? <snip>
>who's "out of place" (sorry can't find the right word) just settles in
>and enriches the other's idea?
i loved this post...
i've often thought of that... the way a+e compliment each other so well...
they appear to be so differnt in lyrical etc style yet they blend +
harmonize so well. even their looks seem so differnt ( one fair, the other
dark ) yet if you take a good look at them, they are simialar in features as
well ( especially the noses... someone tell me i'm wrong ):-)
i think their parnership is like a good marriage... wherein the ol'
expression "opposites attract" can be applied. they are definatly not cut
from the same cloth, but their backgrounds + common goals are so much the
same that they are a perfect match. in performance one will instinctively
move to harmonize perfectly with the other, adding strength to the others
strength + smoothing out any "weakness"... wonderful stuff...
peace y'all... kim ( goddess, <on my knees? yikes> and sometime b#%ch, but
have my in between moods... ) hmmm... if ya don't know the song, ya prolly
don't know what the hey i am talking about:-)
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the flesh is strong the spirit stronger, so shed your
skin baby, let it through... comeonovernow!!!!... amy ray
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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 11:02:00 -0500
reply-to:     "lewis, kristine" <klewis@msmail.is5.tch.tmc.edu>
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from:         "lewis, kristine" <klewis@msmail.is5.tch.tmc.edu>
subject:      austin, tx boot offer via da chickenman

hey y'all-
i am posting this message on behalf of the tony da chickenman regarding the
austin,texas show from 6/27/97 @ the backyard.  tony has been real busy and
right now his computer is all packed up. so here it goes:

>>here's the partial austin(backyard) 6/27/97 boot offer. the austin portion
fits on one side of a 90 minute tape and i recorded one side from the lehigh
university show from 4/27/85 on the other side.
   here is the song list: (90 mins total)
side a  -  austin, tx 6/27/97  - the backyard
     thin line, get out the map, hey kind friend, it's alright, dgtgag,
everything in its own time(cut), sys, tried to be true, galileo, chickenman
(cut)

side b -  lehigh university 4/27/85 - stabler arena
     joking, the wood song , secure yourself, you and me of the 10,000 wars,
reunion(cut), fugitive, lc, kid fears, crazy game

here are the branches:
     alexandria at : aaogilvie@aol.com
     caroline at:      hac@quiknet.com
     jen at:               xgirl@aol.com
     tigger at:         swmpofelya@aol.com
     sarah at:          sanawike1@aol.com
     annemarie at: debatediva@aol.com
     mani at :            mb1170@mis.finchcms.edu
if you are interested in obtaining a copy of this bootleg, please contact
one of the above branches and arrange to send them a 90 minute tape along w/
a sase.
happy listening!
tony, da chickeman<<
man, too bad we didn't get lift on there - they opened up for the girls.
they are awesome!! jules, simone, molly, and david !! yes
well, that's it from tony- he says hello to all!!! and that's it from
me......
take care y'all
peace, love and all things indigo-
kris

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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 11:22:20 -0500
reply-to:     joolz <jwolfenden@clarku.edu>
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subject:      anyone tape july 13- the pier, seattle?
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hi folks.

anyone have the sunday seattle pier show?  please
e-mail me privately.  thanks!

        -j

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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 09:36:04 -0700
reply-to:     lucy richert <leselle@eskimo.com>
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from:         lucy richert <leselle@eskimo.com>
subject:      re: anyone tape july 13- the pier, seattle?
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and/or the other 2 shows??  i'd be interested in any or all--post or email
is great,

thanks,
lucy
leselle@eskimo.com


on fri, 1 aug 1997, joolz wrote:

> hi folks.
>
> anyone have the sunday seattle pier show?  please
> e-mail me privately.  thanks!
>
>         -j
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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 13:18:11 -0400
reply-to:     karra baron <kmcleroy@umich.edu>
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from:         karra baron <kmcleroy@umich.edu>
subject:      nigc- amy ray the banker
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just thought you guys might get as big a kick out of this as i did:  i
went to close on the sale of our condo this morning and the loan officer
for the purchasers was amy ray!  ok, not really, but she looked just like
her (or like i think she looks, having never met her) and had the same
voice.  it was bizarre, to say the least.  but i took it as a good omen
and everything went smoothly and they wrote us a big check :)  yeah!


karra \ kmcleroy@umich.edu \ university of michigan office of major events
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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 10:40:03 -0700
reply-to:     seona <sb2@axe.humboldt.edu>
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subject:      lilith fair and the interview
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hey all...i was reading from the lilith fair web update stuff with ig's
performance with sarah mclachlan singing the water is wide song, and it
seemed sooo awesome (i unfortunately was not there, and won't be able to
make it to any lf this summer =(. i am hoping that someone booted some
of this (ig and/or sarah mclachlan).  please please, let me know!

i'm in the works of recording the interview from the web.  if anyone has
any suggestions as to recording from the computer onto a hand held tape
recorder, i'm open for them...

thanks all,
seona
sb2@axe.humboldt

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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 13:41:51 -0400
reply-to:     heidid4660@aol.com
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from:         "heidi a. duncanson" <heidid4660@aol.com>
subject:      re: amy/emily

in a message dated 8/1/97 5:12:22 am, enolf@vnet.ibm.com (elizabeth nolf)
wrote:

>is anyone else as continually surprised as i am that the two girls shift
>to suit each other?

i am, i am!  (oh no, i feel a "me, too" post coming on!)  i guess i'm not so
much surprised anymore as i am impressed and heart-warmed every time i hear
the melding of their vocals on certain songs.  emily can rock it out on amy's
blistering tracks, and amy can bring just the right reverent sound to emily's
ballads.

>they haven't just found the common point and stuck
>with it, they each take each other into their own world, and the one
>who's "out of place" (sorry can't find the right word) just settles in
>and enriches the other's idea?

i am especially struck by amy's contributions to emily's songs, because i
think initially (i go back to 1989 as a fan), amy seemed like the one with a
more limited vocal range and style, as well as guitar skills.  i think amy
has really broadened her talents and obviously worked hard at what she does.
i can remember seeing the girls in boston about 7 years ago, when amy was
basically just playing rhythm guitar and apologizing for herself (but still
breaking strings with her intensity -- back when they didn't have techs, and
there'd be a lot of tuning and mishaps going on).  now she is soloing and
offering really wonderful co-vocals on em's songs.  there are so many magic
moments on the last couple records, and of course in concert, when her vocals
really make a song blissful.

it's all part of the magic of why we love them, i guess.

heidi d.

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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 11:15:25 -0700
reply-to:     kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
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from:         kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
subject:      re: amy/emily complimenting each other...
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on fri, 1 aug 1997, kim: goddess in her own reality wrote:

> peace y'all... kim ( goddess, <on my knees? yikes> and sometime b#%ch, but
> have my in between moods... ) hmmm... if ya don't know the song, ya prolly
> don't know what the hey i am talking about:-)

hey kim, yes, yes i do know!! that song again??!! aaahhhh!! okay, enough,
but yes i agree... amy and emily = macaroni & cheese ... comfort food
comfort music ... what else... oh yeah, chianti and fava beans...umm...and
also... wool socks and teva sandals on a mild day hiking in the woods with
your svede (pet name for spousal equivalent) and seeing a deer walk by
and having her stop and stare at you for a really long time then nod
her head and stroll into a thicket - that's the amy and emily metaphor
i most like to use... :)

peace ya'll  and i dare ya to flame me for the fava bean thing, cos i'm a
veterinari -- i mean vegetarian...!

love and kisses,

kim (n.v.) p.s. hey binky - do that performance art thing again???
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baby stars - e. saliers
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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 15:10:24 -0400
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subject:      igc - gotm/mm on 92.5
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hey - for all you boston listees out there, i've heard gotm twice in the
last 2 days on 92.5 "the river."  i also heard a new song yesterday by
michele malone.  i don't know the name, but it may be "by the grace of
your heart" - or something like that.

i only listened for about 20 min. yesterday and 10 min. today.  imagine
my surprise when i heard ig and mm (they did refer to her as "the third
indigo girl.")  it's a good station.

alyssa

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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 15:46:56 -0400
reply-to:     mysithe@aol.com
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from:         andii rose <mysithe@aol.com>
subject:      hi everyone!!

  hello everyone!  i'm new to the list, so i just thought i'd say hi. i have
a question, too...does anyone know when amy and emily's birthdays are??


three hits to the heart,
         andii  :-)

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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 17:27:26 -0400
reply-to:     ginyvita@aol.com
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subject:      sara lee - how did she come to play with the ig?

just wondering if anyone knows the scoop on how sara lee left the b52's and
came to join the indigo girls (beyond the atlanta/athens connection)?  you
guys must know....you know everything.

michelle

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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 18:11:00 -0400
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subject:      sots review in 181.4 degrees from the norm !
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hey y'all!

        i sent an email last month to 181.4 degrees from the norm requesting
that they get & review the indigo girls album "shaming of the sun"....
guess what?  they did!  so, if anyone wants to check it out it's
there... in their current issue!

        go here... and scroll down the page... it's there! :)

http://www.181-4.com/dftn/bkissues/issue11_2.html

   enjoy!
    twink!

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   amy:  "i'm always kickin' things over!"
emily:  "you're so rowdy!"
   amy:  "sprawlin'... flailin'..."
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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 18:45:51 edt
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subject:      nigc - bob dylan and ani at tanglewood

i'll be there.  anyone else?


tuesday's child

charter member -- yknib ssim fan club

"i'm starting to get over the urge to kill somebody..."  --  ani

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hello,

i do not have a setlist from last night, but can tell you that the
indigo girls closed with "close to fine."   they were joined onstage for
this song by jewell, joan osbourne, susanna hoffs and sarah mclaughlin.

can anyone tell me the next to the last song?  it was a breathtaking
acoustic number they did with sarah mclaughlin.

thanks in advance,

steve proctor, easynow@compuserve.com

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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 20:00:00 edt
reply-to:     nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
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subject:      lf in charlotte

lf at charlotte....

(don't tell me i'm the only ig lister in nc who went to the charlotte
lf concert?)

well, i'm a corporate rat so i had to work, but as soon as i got off
(and made it home to walk/feed the furries) i was charlotte bound.
here's my ersatz review:


it was a sweet show! i got there in time to hear joan osborne and jewel.
jo can sing...her voice is quite powerful! she hit notes that seemed to
touch the back of the sky. amazing performance by her!

jewel did back-to-back songs very little audience patter from her.
but she did a good set...never thought i'd actually enjoy hearing someone
yodel 8-)

the igs were very good. no broken strings from amy, the both looked
really good - there were closed-circuit tv screens and you could see
close-ups. i didn't write down the set list, but this is pretty close to
what it was:

shed your skin
galileo
shame on you
ghost
scooter boys
get out the map
chickenman
water is wide (w/ sarah mclachlan - incredible! love the song anyway and
to hear the three of them do it and part of it a capella was magical, just
terrific!)
closer to fine (with everybody with jo & jewel taking a couple of verses)

amy was in a good mood, smiled a lot. emily was a little more pensive, but
she smiled some, too. she thanked us for being semi-quiet during ghost
(people held up lighters) and listening. amy told us we were really sweet
and thanked us for singing along on the songs.

i got home after midnight to get up at 5:45 am to dance the corporate
drag....i'm getting too old to be doing this, but it was worth the trip
just to hear 'water is wide' - such a beautiful performance of it! definitely
goose-bump time.

if you get a chance to see lf (with/without ig), please do so. it's an
incredible show. major kudos to sarah mclachlan to pulling this together
and the artists for pulling it off. bravo!!!

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 21:22:34 -0400
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subject:      re: sara lee - how did she come to play with the ig?

ginyvita@aol.com writes:
>just wondering if anyone knows the scoop on how sara lee left the b52's
and
>came to join the indigo girls (beyond the atlanta/athens connection)?
you
>guys must know....you know everything.
>
>michelle


i was just wondering how sara met up with the girls myself!  i know that
when she played with the b52's, she was referred to as "former gang of
four
bassist sara lee".  btw, she wasn't an official member of the b52's
(though
she was so cool in the "love shack" video), and she's played on enough
tours
to contend for the title of hardest working woman bassist in show
business.
at one ig concert i went to, a&e were saying that they needed to make a
sara
lee t-shirt which listed all the bands that she's played with, and that
was
years before she toured with ani.

peace,
fran e.

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date:         fri, 1 aug 1997 21:39:30 -0400
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subject:      re: amy/emily

elizabeth nolf <enolf@vnet.ibm.com> writes:
>is anyone else as continually surprised as i am that the two girls shift
>to suit each other? they haven't just found the common point and stuck
>with it, they each take each other into their own world, and the one
>who's "out of place" (sorry can't find the right word) just settles in
>and enriches the other's idea?

i agree completely, and this carries over to the cover songs that they
do.  i think that their interpretations are brilliant, and they bring
something special to each song that, to my ears, often surpasses the
original.  my favorite examples: tangled up in blue, uncle john's band
(sorry deadheads), down by the river, i don't wanna talk about it....

something else that i've noticed is how their vocal techniques have
evolved over the years.  emily's singing is bolder and less breathy,
while amy's is more melodic with a greater range.  i began to notice
this on songs like jonas & ezekiel and least complicated, and it's even
more apparent on sots.

peace,
fran e.

p.s. thanks, elizabeth, for starting a great thread!

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wow, i'm finally back from vacation and one of the most incredible ig
shows. i haven't seen any really complete reviews of friday (or maybe i
did and forgot...i went through a lot of email today folks) so i wanted
to add my thoughts. first of all hi to the few listees i met (lurk on).
my mom went with me (as always) and we arrived at 9 am to get a good
place in line. we should have gotten front row, but later on we found out
that there was a line of people at all four gates. grrrr. so we had to
settle for second row amy side (kinda far over). my now-infamous ig
bubbles didn't make it into the concert. sad. poor mom had to hike down
and up all those stairs one last time to put the bubbles back in the car.
good news is we snuck in a crappy little disposable camera so hopefully
the pictures i took will turn out (i'd swear that the security guard knew
i had a camera and was ready to take it). i wasn't very impressed with
the first openers - the hectics. mom and i ignored them and instead
watched amy and emily who were visible back stage. mom had her binoculars
again so i watched them talking together. we also saw josh (he left them
and walked right out into the crowd and went up to the top rows, wow).
amy was cute...during one song the hectics did she did a little "air
drum" kind of thing, playing along with the music. then patti smith. she
was so incredible. i'm not all that familiar with her music, and i'm not
sure of how much i like it, but she was such a great performer that i
could just watch her for hours. (oh, i forgot, after the hectics did
their first song the guitarist yelled "cleveland, rock city!" she then
realized her mistake and said something like "oh, denver, whatever."
duh.) and then the girls. they were so incredible. amy is so possessed
when she performs...i love it. for once i got the set list written down:
mystery (just amy & emily)
three hits
get out the map (aka i'm lost)
don't give that girls a gun
caramia
power of two (aka e=mc[squared])
shame on you
least complicated (amy: "here's a song we can all sing along to and stuff")
scooter boys w/ sad eyed soldiers
leeds
redemption song
thin line
*amy disappears and emily takes questions*
ghost
shed your skin
it's alright
chickenman w/ landslide (emily did the landslide part but the audience
ended up singing most of it)
galileo
encore:
everything in it's own time
bury my heart at wounded knee
closer to fine (amy broke a mandolin string)
as mentioned by someone else, the techs were playing tricks on the girls.
one of the tricks was that on one set of guitars there were bright pink
stickers on the straps that said "i love my tech" too cute (thanks to
mom's binocualrs again for helpin gus see that). there was also a pink
sticker on amy's water bottle, but i couldn't see what it said. fashion
report. amy: salmon coloured jeans (mom used her binoculars and now knows
where every hole and ink stain is on those pants), kickin' black boots,
patterned t shirt (she had on a different on backstage during the
hectics). emily: olive pants, black t shirt, purple/pink nail polish.
josh: yes, that was a michelle malone shirt (and yes emily and someone
else had on the same shirt during the hectics). sara: black leather
pants, black t shirt. oh, sandy garfinkle was there and played on power
of two, chickenman, and one or two other songs. mom wants to add that
hardly any of the audience showed up until sometime during the opening
act. and she's sad that she only go to hear hey kind friend once out of
the three ig concerts we saw this summer. (and she's still cheesed about
having to take my bubbles back to the car.) okay, i guess that's about it.
i don't want to waste you time too much.
-sam (who is still hoping that mom will say yes to going to lilith fai

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hey everyone,

here's a selection from the first lot of results from the ig
fan survey.  if you want to see the full results, you can
find them at http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/igsurvey.  i've
still got heaps of results to go, so stay tuned...

happy happy,
sherlyn

indigo girls fan survey, version iv - results
=============================================
currently tallied: 50

igc section
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"on a scale of a to e, how would you rate yourself:"
7a. overall?
     a - 13, b - 13, c - 11, d - 8, e - 5
[heavily skewed towards amy.]

7b. on the basis of songwriting?
     a - 6, b - 5, c - 15, d - 11, e - 13
[heavily skewed towards emily.]

7c. on the basis of performance and/or delivery?
     a - 16, b - 16, c - 10, d - 6, e - 2
[again, skewed towards amy.]

8. favourite albums:
        1. 1200 curfews (32)
        2. rites of passage, swamp ophelia (22)
        4. shaming of the sun (17)
        5. nomads*indians*saints (13)
        6. indigo girls (10)
        7. strange fire (9)

9. "top 10" overall favourite songs:
        1. ghost (23)
        2. shed your skin (14)
        3. mystery (13)
        4. galileo (12)
        5. closer to fine, don't give that girl a gun,
                the wood song, world falls (11)
        9. reunion (10)
        10. love's recovery, shame on you (9)

10. "top 10" favourite amy songs:
        1. shed your skin (18)
        2. chickenman (15)
        3. don't give that girl a gun, fugitive, world falls (14)
        6. kid fears, reunion (13)
        8. hey kind friend (11)
        9. blood and fire, jonas and ezekial, strange fire (10)

11. "top 10" favourite emily songs:
        1. ghost (31)
        2. mystery (21)
        3. galileo, language or the kiss, love's recovery (14)
        6. caramia, get out the map, closer to fine (13)
        9. watershed, the wood song (12)

12. "top 5" favourite cover/other songs:
        1. tangled up in blue (31)
        2. romeo and juliet (21)
        3. thin line (12)
        4. wild horses (11)
        5. down by the river (9)

13. "top 5" least favourite songs:
        1. airplane (12)
        2. 1 2 3 (11)
        3. history of us (7)
        4. cut it out (6)
        5. everything in its own time (5)

nigc section
============
1. sex:
        male - 5, female - 44

2. age:
        under 18 - 4
        18 to 21 - 15
        22 to 25 - 11
        26 to 30 - 10
        31 to 40 - 9

8. "top 10" other favourite musical artists/bands:
        1. michelle malone (17)
        2. ani difranco (15)
        3. dar williams (12)
        4. melissa etheridge (11)
        5. tori amos (9)
        6. kristen hall, sarah mclachlan (8)
        8. shawn colvin, rem (7)
        10. tracy chapman, dave mathews band (6)
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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    make sure you make lots of mistakes.
    and find the future that redeems,
    give us hell, and give us dreams;
    and grow and grow and grow..."   - dar williams

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ok, before i post this, i want everyone to know that i don't mean this in a
bad way, i've never flamed anyone, and i will never flame anyone.  i don't
even like flames, which is why i did this parody...   it's a joke :)


flame on you

my friends their on the ig list
they write stuff for fun
they tell me sign on day or night sometime
see what stupid stuff is on
i say lets all write some reviews, get along, do little all day
down in the web sites, pay all our dues and wash these blues away,
the goddess says, la la la said
flame on you
the goddess says, la la la said
flame on you
i go down to the digest mode now
'cuz it saves me some time
when the list goes down your can read all those
"where's the list" messages
but when the admin says everything's ok
you wouldn't know the difference
cuz you're so wrapped up in the petty bullshit you
wouldn't know it's back up
and you can read the rest
la la la said flame on you
you can feel the stinging,
la la la said flame on you
my friend banner, she said you know,
me and elvis, we're of the same cloth,
the only thing that keeps us confused
is that i keep plucking off,
i said come on down to digest mode now,
read nothing all day,
when the really good messages
get passed your way
you know, you wouldn't know what to say,
* chorus*
let's go sand-blast flippin'
in the middle of the night,
up in netspace.org
there'll be hurt-type messages
for the next day
when they ask me to apologize,
they say we've been lookin'
for really rude listees,
can we check your account,
i say you know it's funny you know,
i think we were on the same 'count
back in 1981...
and i said, ooh la la flame on you
and they'll be flamin'
la la la said,
flame on you

rachel :)
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more do i trust, we own nothing, nothing is ours, not even love so fierce
it burns like baby stars..."  emily saliers

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disclaimer #2:  we really love our cats (amy & indigo)  and can't live
without them...but they do inspire lyrics like this....we're just feeling
extremely silly and sadistic tonight :))


put out the cats

i'm gonna feed my cats
i'm gonna clean their box

the saddest sight my eyes can see
is that big cat nip toy
rolling quickly down the street

drivin' away in a rental car
while they meow after me
this guilty feelin'
soon be gnawin' at me

cassie calls from hingham
the lumpy cot, the blanket's dry
and that same cat that warms your heart
will bleed your conscience dry

with amy and indigo,
they just keep on cryin'
or keep you feelin'
like your leavin' them behind to die....

put out the cats
put out the cats
and lay your conscience to rest
we'll leave the bickering
to those we ask
to take care of the pests

don't forget the water
they'll be in desperate need of it

i'm gonna feed my cats
i'm gonna clean their box
i'm gonna feed them what i can
while there's food left in the bag

baloni left for s. africa a few years ago
and seth took a job all the way down in mexico
me, i'm still trying to help poor amy and indigo
seems they're heavier by the year
and lazier by the load....

why do they hurtle themselves from the couch to
the window with such grace
i hate to say but someday they're gonna find their resting place
with every hairball hurled, a cry upon their tormented face,
we'll confuse ourselves one day with these memories erased....

put out the cats
put out the cats
and let them sleep on your bed
we'll leave the bickering to those ask
to take care of the pests
don't forget the water
they'll be in desperate need of it

i'm gonna feed my cats
i'm gonna clean their box
i'm gonna feed them what i can
while there's food left in the bag....

with love,
rachel & chris :))))))))


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it burns like baby stars..."  emily saliers

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subject:      how sara lee came to the igs

sara lee & how she came to be with the igs.....

this is from the rop tour program and at the end of it is a bit on
sara lee. enjoy...

blast from the past time - thought some of you would enjoy seeing this.


                   from the "rites of passage" tour program:
(reprinted without permission - most, if not all, of the text written by a&e)


emily:
        i was born in yale new haven hospital on july 22, 1963.
        as a kid, i listened to peter, paul & mary, peter & the wolf, the
kingston trio, and the jackson five. one day, when i was in the third grade,
ymca flyers were passed out offering, among other activities, guitar lessons.
i bought my first guitar for $24. i wanted one with a purple velvet back,
but my mom said maybe a normal guitar was better.
        i started writing songs when i got my guitar. the first song was
called "didn't they know the people" - it was awful and meant nothing, but i
kept writing anyway. my first professional gig was when i was 14, living
in minnesota. i played and sang for a local democratic convention. i tried
to get a gig at a steak restaurant, but it never panned out.
        i guess my biggest solo success came when i won "most talented" at the
miss shamrock high school contest. back then, it was like winning a grammy.
then, amy and i became friends, i switched from classical to steel strings,
and the acoustic world of rock 'n' roll lay ahead.


amy:
        i was born in atlanta at grady hospital on april 12, 1964.
        my parents urged me to play musical instruments at a very early age.
i remember wanting to play the guitar because i liked to sing so much.
        i wanted an instrument that would be very mobile. i took lessons at the
ywca near my house. i listened to elton john, neil young, and all the
psychedelic music coming from my oldest sister's stereo.
        i attended laurel ridge elementary, where emily came to school when
she was in the sixth grade. i knew about her because she would play songs in
the cafeteria at lunch time. i mostly played out on the playground. i
wrote a very silly song called "benny, the penny and i" that all my
friends would sing with me. my writing stayed at about that level until
i was well into my career. my high school years were spent running track,
being in student government, and singing anywhere i could. little did i
know what lay ahead....


saliers & ray:

        amy joined the high school choir in 1981. they began playing guitar
together in amy's basement. they would go to amy's house because she
had better snacks - and microphones, too. their first audience was
ellis loyd's ap english class. another professional highlight of that
year was a new year's eve gig at toco tavern where most of their
friends threw up.
        tuesday nights at good ol' days open mic night in buckhead became
their first steady gig. they wore dress pants and straw hats and
switched back and forth between the names "b-band" and "saliers & ray."
since they were under-age, they either had to lie about it or get
special permission from the manager to play.
        when emily went to tulane and a year later, amy went to vanderbilt,
they played some solo gigs. emily played at a pass-the-hat coffee house
called the penny post. she tried to sing exactly like joni mitchell.
(amy laughs at the tapes of those nights.) amy played writer's nights
and worked at a used record store called the great escape. she also played
at a steak house (quinn's mill) until they found out she was under-age.
she used to wear izod sweaters, stand stock-still and close her eyes
while she sang. amy visited emily at tulane once, and they played for
tips in the french quarter - they made thirty bucks in six hours.
        unfulfilled by their solo careers and college life, they
transferred back to emory and moved back to atlanta. it was a fortuitous
move. they continued to play solo happy hours and some gigs together at
places like the emory sheraton, purple parrot, chattahoochee river co.,
wooden nickel pub, the bucket shop, and night gallery. in 1985, they
began to solidify their career by adopting the name indigo girls, putting
out their first single "crazy game" and opening for people at the
moonshadow saloon. they sold copies of their first single on campus for $2.
        amy had to yell at emily a lot because emily never hung any
posters, got any gigs, or knew what was going on.
        they put out their first cassette, the very primitive "blue food"
which included such smash hits as "i don't know your name, but i wanna
be your lover" and "if you live like that" - the only song they ever
wrote together.
        in 1986, amy and emily met frank french who gave them free studio
time and produced their first ep "indigo girls." at that point, they
became involved in the underground rock scene playing places like 688
and metroplex in atlanta and the uptown lounge in athens. they also
started booking their own tours - drive to nashville, play three songs
at the bluebird, turn around and come home. they played cafe 99 in
charleston and the cat's cradle in chapel hill.
        during that time, they met their soon-to-be manager, russell
carter, who gave them free advice and told them they wouldn't go very far.
he said their songs were immature and he didn't see them getting a record
deal. they said, "who cares?" and hired john keane to record their
independent record "strange fire" in 1987.
        the indigo girls were touring the east coast, calling and hounding
college radio stations to play "strange fire" and embarking upon what they
though would be a long, underground career.
        by this time, the little 5 points pub had become their home base
in atlanta. they then enlisted russell carter to help them get a record
deal because they were tired of the hazards of the road - once they drove
to maine to play for $50 in front of eight people, and another time they
drove to burt's in south carolina to find their gig had been canceled.
        things like that happened all the time. unfortunately, no record
company was interested in them, so, deciding russell must have been right,
they booked time to make their second record, which was to be called
"jews*christians*greeks*romans."
        one night, they were playing at the little 5 points pub when
roger klein from epic records stopped in looking for rem. he liked their
set, came back the next night, and after numerous meetings in which the
indigo girls refused to compromise, they were signed to epic.
        since being signed to epic, they've made three studio albums,
had "strange fire" re-released, and put out a live ep. they've had the
honor of playing with such musicians as rem, hothouse flowers, joan baez,
jackson browne, the roches, mary chapin-carpenter, neil young, and
david crosby.


        we're very happy - thanks for being part of it.
        the best is history

        (signed) amy        emily


spotlight:      sara lee

        sara lee is a member of a musical family from england - both parents
were professional music teachers and her sister is a classical cellist. sara
is one of the more famous players to emerge from the 1980's british
alternative music scene.
        sara formed the stilettos in 1978, a punk band based in london.
soon thereafter, she began an ongoing association with robert fripp in
1980 as a member of the league of gentlemen. sara played with robyn hitchcock
in 1981 for a brief period before joining the gang of four. following that
band's breakup in 1984, sara formed the raging hormones, a current project
with steve jordan and charley drayton.
        in the late 80's, sara toured as the bassist for the thompson twins
in the u.s. and europe. she was then brought in by the b-52s to record
"cosmic thing" and toured with them for the next two years.
        on the suggestion of producer scott litt, indigo girls invited sara
lee to perform on "nomads indians saints." the sessions led to a nationwide
tour and participation on the subsequent live ep, "back on the bus, y'all."
sara was back in the studio with amy and emily throughout the recording of
"rites of passage" and will continue to play with them on the "rites of
passage" world tour.

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at 12:30 am 8/2/97 -0700, rachel wrote:
>i've never flamed anyone, and i will never flame anyone.  i don't
>even like flames, which is why i did this parody...   it's a joke :)

oh yeah rachel??? then what is *this*??? huh???:

>the goddess says, la la la said
>flame on you
>the goddess says, la la la said
>flame on you

it's some sort of slam against *me* isn't it?? isn't it???
<achem> ( yes yes, i know... there are more goddesses in this universe... )
lol... i love these parody things... i is sorely tempted to write another o'
my own... except that i is headed to vancouver island fer the day with my gf
and just don't have the time... everbody: deep sigh of relief:-)
peace all... kim ( goddess of toaster ovens )
********************************************************
the flesh is strong the spirit stronger, so shed your
skin baby, let it through... comeonovernow!!!!... amy ray
*********************************************************

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well, this is my first post.  please forgive a newbie her ignorance, both
about netiquette and about the girls themselves.
i wanted to comment about a post i saw a couple of days ago.  this may be
well-covered territory, but i feel i must say it.  i think the magic of
amy and emily is that they are the ideal couple many of us are striving to
be part of: they are very different, yet complement each other
beautifully: amy the dark and passionate, emily the fair and romantic;
they are able to work together yet pursue their own projects; and although
their individual styles seem to move away from each other, they're still
hangin' in there supporting each other musically.  i think i could write a
thesis about this, so i'll stop now...
i am a relatively recent convert to indigoism: never was a fan until
christmas of '95, when i bought my then-gf 1200c--and listened to it more
than she did!  i've been hooked ever since, and was at both red rocks
shows 7/18 &19, thanks to my buddy abby.  they were amazing!  if anyone
has a boot of either show, please e-mail me privately.  i have little
money, but perhaps we could make an arrangement.  the mm & ig encore of
"wild horses" was hands-down the best encore i've ever heard!  i couldn't
do anything but gape when they were done.
since i am a newbie here and to indigoism, i have a question:  where did
ig cover "i don't wanna talk about it"?  is this the same song rod stewart
did on atlantic crossing?  if so, where can i get a copy, because i can
just imagine how great it is!

************************************************************************
hey holy, console me, some power controls me  (it's amy) ;)

jen

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i saw melissa ferrick & kristen hersch last night at the fez in nyc (& i
got to hang out w/ fellow listees, jess & colleen! :).  mf was amazing, & i
highly recommend seeing her if you get the chance.  her new cd, melissa
ferrick+1 is really cool too.  she's performing a short set & signing
copies of her new album tonight (august 2) from 7-9 at a different light
bookstore on 151 w. 19th st. (between 6th & 7th) in nyc, if anyone's
interested...i wish i could go.

i haven't seen this posted yet, i apologize if it has been & i just missed
it, but there's an article in people magazine (8/4/97 issue, w/ harrison
ford on the cover) on p. 75 about ani, & amy's quoted: "'she's a
renaissance woman,' says indigo girls' amy ray, a pal.  'her music's honest
and empowering, and she's a good businesswoman.'"

i work at a summer school/camp for 2nd-6th graders, & my friend & i had to
lead an activity the other day, so we had a sing-a-long.  we had another
one of our friends play guitar, & we taught the 20 kids that signed up
closer to fine.  it was the cutest thing!  we performed it for the rest of
the camp at "sharing time," & we told all the kids, "remember, go home &
tell your parents to buy you an ig cd!"  starting kids on ig music when
they're young is the best way to convert them!

andi

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                                  andrea lipman
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                 homepage: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ablipman

           "and when i talk about therapy, i know what people think,
         that it only makes you selfish and in love with your shrink,
                      but oh how i loved everybody else,
       when i finally got to talk so much about myself."-dar williams
  _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_

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can you write me off the list dear

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is there any particular way the branches are being organized or should i
just pick one at random?

just curious
heather
thepiderqueen

"you know i don't look forward to seeing you again
you'll look like a photograph of yourself
taken from far far away"

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> from: lewis, kristine <klewis@msmail.is5.tch.tmc.edu>
> to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject: austin, tx boot offer via da chickenman
> date: friday, august 01, 1997 12:02 pm
>
> hey y'all-
> i am posting this message on behalf of the tony da chickenman regarding
the
> austin,texas show from 6/27/97 @ the backyard.  tony has been real busy
and
> right now his computer is all packed up. so here it goes:
>
> >>here's the partial austin(backyard) 6/27/97 boot offer. the austin
portion
> fits on one side of a 90 minute tape and i recorded one side from the
lehigh
> university show from 4/27/85 on the other side.
>    here is the song list: (90 mins total)
> side a  -  austin, tx 6/27/97  - the backyard
>      thin line, get out the map, hey kind friend, it's alright, dgtgag,
> everything in its own time(cut), sys, tried to be true, galileo,
chickenman
> (cut)
>
> side b -  lehigh university 4/27/85 - stabler arena
>      joking, the wood song , secure yourself, you and me of the 10,000
wars,
> reunion(cut), fugitive, lc, kid fears, crazy game
>
> here are the branches:
>      alexandria at : aaogilvie@aol.com
>      caroline at:      hac@quiknet.com
>      jen at:               xgirl@aol.com
>      tigger at:         swmpofelya@aol.com
>      sarah at:          sanawike1@aol.com
>      annemarie at: debatediva@aol.com
>      mani at :            mb1170@mis.finchcms.edu
> if you are interested in obtaining a copy of this bootleg, please contact
> one of the above branches and arrange to send them a 90 minute tape along
w/
> a sase.
> happy listening!
> tony, da chickeman<<
> man, too bad we didn't get lift on there - they opened up for the girls.
>  they are awesome!! jules, simone, molly, and david !! yes
> well, that's it from tony- he says hello to all!!! and that's it from
> me......
> take care y'all
> peace, love and all things indigo-
> kris
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ummm, uhhh....well... we thought it was only right since you patented the
asbestos covered flame suit :)))  ;)  yeah.....
******************************************************************
"a lesson learned a loving god and things in their own time, in nothing
more do i trust, we own nothing, nothing is ours, not even love so fierce
it burns like baby stars..."  emily saliers

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> from: kim: goddess in her own reality <rcn@prcn.org>
>
> at 12:30 am 8/2/97 -0700, rachel wrote:
> >i've never flamed anyone, and i will never flame anyone.  i don't
> >even like flames, which is why i did this parody...   it's a joke :)
>
> oh yeah rachel??? then what is *this*??? huh???:
>
> >the goddess says, la la la said
> >flame on you
> >the goddess says, la la la said
> >flame on you
>
> it's some sort of slam against *me* isn't it?? isn't it???
> <achem> ( yes yes, i know... there are more goddesses in this universe...
)
> lol... i love these parody things... i is sorely tempted to write another
o'
> my own... except that i is headed to vancouver island fer the day with my
gf
> and just don't have the time... everbody: deep sigh of relief:-)
> peace all... kim ( goddess of toaster ovens )
> ********************************************************
> the flesh is strong the spirit stronger, so shed your
> skin baby, let it through... comeonovernow!!!!... amy ray
> *********************************************************

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i desperately need 2 tickets for this show, can anyone out there help me?

erin
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>amy and emily =... comfort food...comfort music
>... wool socks and teva sandals on a mild day hiking in the woods (kim kobbs).

although i don't wear teva sandals (only running shoes or hiking boots),
this is a wonderful metaphore: comforting yet utilitarian, warm yet airy,
stylish yet practical, the possibility of abrasiveness coupled with the
certainty of honesty.  wow---no better use has ever been made of tevas.
good job, kim!

deb

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at 08:00 pm 8/1/97 edt, nancy humphries wrote:

>water is wide (w/ sarah mclachlan - incredible! love the song anyway and
>to hear the three of them do it and part of it a capella was magical, just
>terrific!)
>closer to fine (with everybody with jo & jewel taking a couple of verses)
>

do we think this is the song the ig do on the pete seeger tribute? (recall
kirsten's e-mail from early july)  i never would have guessed that song for
their selection, but why else would they suddenly be covering it?

deirdre

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subject:      water is wide

hi list!

if anybody has a boot of ig and maclachlan singing the water is wide at lf, pl
eeease let me know.  i sing that song to my little girl every night at
bedtime and it would be amazing to have a copy of amy, emily & co performing
it live.

also, would someone please post a list of the songs on reverse one - live?

thanks all!!

pam
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
we're standing at opposite poles
equal partners in a mystery.  es
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if anyone is having trouble locating the acoustic magazine issue with "the
girls" on it i have an extra one and still may be able to get a few more.
e-mail me privately if you have been unable to obtain this issue and still
really really want it.  they are $4.95

if anyone still has the url for hidden water's mary fortune express site
could you please send it to me?  :^)

fellow list member,
heather   jofarn@frontiernet.net

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hello fellow listees!  i am really interested in trading ig boots- i am
not picky.  i have some great boots that i have no problem sharing...in
fact i have some great pictures of them too!  please e-mail me privately
if you are interested!
...."don't you write it down, remember this in your head-don't take a
picture, remember this in your heart..." a.ray

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hi,

i just checked the tower records site and found out that both the june
and july issues had been skipped. they went from the may issue (with
cheap trick) to the august issue (with 311). so, not only did ig get
overlooked so did sarah mclachlan.

the url for pulse online is:
(http://www.towerrecords.com:80/prd.i/pgen/tower/rc31mvjcp2sh2pb00047mdckcb5jwanv/pulse/index.html;t=;d=)

the e-mail for pulse is: pulsemag@towerrecords.com. they say, "we love
mail." ......

leticia
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subject:      nigc: the nields boot

"what's a nields ????"

for any nields fans out there, i booted their show at levitt pavillion last
night in westport, ct ....

i may also be taping them at sono arts fest in norwalk, ct today at 2pm ...

anyone interested in the boot from last night e-mail me ....

personal side note - go see them if they come to your area ... the first time
i saw the nields, was 4 years ago (when they were still a 3-piece band) - in
fairfield, ct .... they rocked - it was a benefit show and there were only
about 50 people there, but it was so cool to see an acoustic show in such an
intimate setting, plus this really "radical" chick opened up for them ....
ever heard of catie curtis ????   ;)

wish i had booted that one - got to meet catie right after her set - she was
oh so sweet .... got to meet the nields that night too - the loved my ig
shirt (the cartoon one from chastain park sept. 28, 1990) so much, that they
gave me a free t-shirt - a cartoon of them :)

ok - enough talking .....

chris

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sorry to post again, but the pulse e-mail addy is not valid. my mail
just got returned.

tower's email is:  feedback@towerrecords.com. i tried this one and it
seems to work.

leticia
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in a message dated 97-08-02 08:27:34 edt, you write:

<< chickenman w/ landslide (emily did the landslide part but the audience >>
  "landslide" as in stevie nicks? that must have been amazing!

sari

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has anyone heard of kennedy rose? it's two women, pam rose and mary ann
kennedy. a friend of mine has a tape of theirs called hai ku. it's a little
country, a little folky. mostly country. love songs. it was put out by
pangaea records in 1989. he (my friend) is looking around for more of their
stuff, but hasn't found any. i thought maybe you guys on the list might have
some ideas?
thanks
jasmine


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thanks to all who responded to let me know where to find the ig cover of
"i don't wanna talk about it".  i'm rushing out right now to get the
philadelphia sndtrk.  small correction: someone wrote me and told me that
it was on boys on the side sdtrk: that's power of two--even a newbie knows
that! ;)
one more thing: i've seen recent ideas for songs we'd love to hear ig
cover; here's my idea: every time i hear the piano intro for "leeds"
(which i love, btw), i think "gosh, emily would do a really good cover of
"maybe i'm amazed" (wings).  whaddya think?
i also just finished _the tao of pooh_ and think that a & e could do some
books on cassette.  who wouldn't love one of these beautiful women to read
them to sleep? *big cheshire grin*

peace
jen

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howdy,

would the person who posted about booting tips e-mail me, please.  i
just bought a recorder, but had some questions.

i tested it out on this touring women's group from seattle, "femme
vitale"--four women artist performing independantly, three on guitar
and one on the keyboard.  the one woman  annie o'niell, was sooo great!
her background is vocal jazz, but she sounds and plays like michelle
malone...awesome, strong, clear voice, and great lyrics. well, i
recorded her and also bought her album, and she said it was ok for me to
share my boot with people.

it turned out great and would like to share it, but i've had some
problems booting the following night at another artist's show.  they are
called the mike craghead trio, and i say, the bassist is so awesome!
also mike, the lead guitarist and singer, has a wonderful voice, plays
guitar like a pro--he slams and hammers on them like crazy.  his playing
reminds of another guitar great phil keagy (awesome!), and his
songs/music is like van morrison.  they played a wide variety of music
from their originals, and james taylor to the clash!  he's got a web
site with samples of his music, at
http://redwood.northcoast.com/~craghead/welcome.html

well, my boot of them turned out poorly, so i don't have anything to
share but i need help booting!

thanks for listening! and helping.
seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu

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i have been having trouble finding a shawn mullins
cd/tape - does anyone have any suggestions?  i have
off of the list now, so please email me privately.
thanks.
alycia
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hi, y'all!

i know this is non-ig related, but i figured this was a good place to get
out the message that the aids walk will be on sunday, october 19, at 1:00
pm starting in piedmont park.  like last year, it is a 10 kilometer walk
benefiting aid atlanta as well as about 14 other aids education and
service organizations.  if anyone is interested in signing up to walk or
to volunteer, here's the phone number:
(404) 876-walk

if you'd like to help out, but can't attend, i am walking and, of course,
accepting sponsorships <g>.  if you would like to sponsor me, send a check
*made out to* aids walk atlanta (or awa) to this address:

a. cason
823 north park street, apt. 1
carrollton, ga 30117

or if you would prefer not to sponsor anyone, but instead send the check
directly to awa, call (404) 876-walk for their address.

i would appreciate your help; it's definitely a worthy cause!
thanks!!!  =)
amy

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>
> i know this is non-ig related, but i figured this was a good place to get
> out the message that the aids walk will be on sunday, october 19, at 1:00

unless, of ocurse, you count the fact that at the aids walk several years
ago (91, maybe?  the first year they had it i believe...)  indigo girls
came out at the celebration afterwards and perormed a couple of songs,
and were even joined by elton john on "mona lisas and mad hatters."  it
was very very cool.  it was also a surprsie, as even though they were the
co-marshalls or something, they had said theyw ould not be playing.

anyways, it is a lot of fun in general in addition to being in support of
a really goodcause...

darren, who has always wondered if anyone booted that performance...

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oh yeah, i almost forgot...those who sponsor me will receive a shiny,
happy thank-you note to let them know their donation was received and
appreciated...  =)
thanks again,
amy

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>something else that i've noticed is how their vocal techniques have
>evolved over the years.  emily's singing is bolder and less breathy,
>while amy's is more melodic with a greater range.  i began to notice
>this on songs like jonas & ezekiel and least complicated, and it's even
>more apparent on sots.

has this got something to do with a little bit i read somewhere about how
emily tried hard to sound like joni mitchell in the early days? the more
time she spends singing over the years, the more she grows into her own
style rather than trying to imitate someone who has obviously had a
profound influence on her, right?

helen

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subject:      here it is! local amy invterview

hello!

as promised. here is the interview my friend kelly had with amy ray.  it's
soooo long that i have to do it in parts (sorry, but my life comes first)
the article was published in a local (albuquerque, new mexico) independent
paper called womens voices.  here is part one.

voices of women:  amy ray of the indigo girls
by kelly barrick hovendick

recently, i was so honored to have the opportunity to chat with amy ray of
the indigo girls.  they were touring in austin, texas, and making their way
west.  don't worry, fans, amy assured me that they will come to santa fe
before the end of the year.  here's what she had to say.  hope you enjoy it
as much as i did.

kh: were you and emily politically involved prior to your musi careers?
ar: oh, wow, we started playing when we were so young, i mean, we started
playing when we were like in tenth grade in high school.  i was in tenth, she
was in eleventh.  i was very involved in student government and always. . .
i'm sort of the same now as i was then, just try to get involved.  i would
say we were just kind of defining our selves politically, that a lot of our
ideas really evolved probably more lateral in college.  i mean, we played a
lot of environmental benefits and homeless shelter benefits and got involved
in that way, but really started honing down the things that were important to
us and how we would be involved in them as we got older.  i think in the last
few years we have really understood [ourselves] politically, i guess with
more savvy really than we had before.
kh: in a previous article that i read, you were quoted as saying that the
honor the earth tour was a big personal growth for you ...
ar: yeah.
kh: and i wanted to know, as you and emily get more "famous" and earn more
respect by the musical and non-musical world, do your goals include more
projects for your own personal growth?
ar:  yeah, well, i mean honor the earth is an ongoing thing and we'll be
doing it again in september and, politically speaking, yeah, i mean, i went
down to chiapas, mexico, a couple of times and emily went the second time and
things like that are very, very integral to personal growth because you see
things that you never see anywhere else and you have to learn patience and
discipline in a lot of things and the people there teach a lot to you.  so,
i'm striving to read as much as i can and learn as much as i can and be
aware, and to be open to both sides of issues, to know where people are
coming from and that's important.  i think both emily and i are on the same
track that way.  music has a lot to do with our peroanl growth, too, because
we're trying to learn new instruments and practice and take new approaches to
music and just keep our ears open.  that has a lot to do with personal growth
too, because i think it has to do with your spirit and your confidence and
your self-esteem, and having enough self-respect and respect for the people
around you to want to keep learning and to have an open mind.  that's
important because it makes you feel good.
kh: definitely.  i think that's evident in your music.  you see such a
progression with it, and i think with every album we're seeing more and more
issues arising and that's really great.  also, as far as the issues that the
indigo girls are writing about and supporting, what are the deciding factors
in what you and emily decide to publicly support?
ar:  we publicly support so much stuff.  well, i think for me, personally,
there's a basic thrust to the idea of, i mean, i feel oppposed to the new
sort of economic globalization and cultural globalization and this thing
that's going on that's creating a lot of disenfranchised people, so that's
one piece of the puzzle.  and the other piece is that when we colonized this
country, we, the society, became very patriarchal and very intolerant, in
general, and i think that i could trace a lot of things back to that.  there
ar a lot of things that have risen out of that experience in our political
history as a country and sort of everything i get involved in i can trace to
that.  so, i like to support groups that work on a grass roots level, number
one.  that's very important to me, and that they work for humanitarian causes
that have to do with the sacredness of life-- basically protecting cultures
and protecting our individualism and there's so many things that are involved
in that.  i mean, gun control and abortion issues and women's issues,
homophobia, religious intolerance -- theres so many things.  but i think a
basic thing is, we tend to get involved with groups that do work on a grass
roots level and with groups that you can see the money go in and the money
come out, where it's spent and you can tie that in in a way that has a lot of
integrity.  we're careful about it. when we get approached by groups we read
literature; we don't work with groups that are funded by corporations that we
disagree with, you know, things like that.

stay tuned... more to come later.

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subject:      nigc - badi assad, great brazilian guitarist/singer

anyone ever heard of badi (pronounced ba-jee) assad?
i was flipping through some mags in a music store and
she seemed to be all over the acoustic guitar mags.
she's supposed to be one great classical guitarist/singer
from brazil.  i'm curious about how good her music is and
if it would appeal to a big indigohead (sorry for the term).
can anyone offer comments?

lisa

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hi y'all,

i apologize ahead of time if this was mentioned before.

i was surfing the net tonight and did my obligatory
ticketmaster search on my favorite artists.  when i
did ig, it came up with:

ig in jacksonville, fl on september 25, '97

but, if you click on this, it says something to the
effect of no info available.....event could have been
cancelled, etc.  is this just a start on ig's fall tour,
or a mistake?  anyone know?

lisa

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subject:      nigc - info needed about max points

hey y'all,

with all the boots i've been doing/trading lately,
i've racked up a hefty number of max points.  i
had an address to request a brochure on how
to redeem them, but the addy is old and defunct.
can someone send me the new addy for
the max points program?  it used to be that you
could get cds for the points.  is this still the case?
i went to maxell's page on the web, but their
commercial products/promotions page is
still under construction.

also, i remember a few months ago (someone posted
about this) that tdk was offering to take maxell points
in their own promotion.  is this still going on, and, if so,
what's the addy for that?

thanks,
lisa

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subject:      nigc - ani in chicago and madison

i was looking at a new music magazine in
blockbuster music and saw some dates for
ani difranco's tour.  they aren't up on
ticketmaster's page yet (i checked tonight), but
here's a few i saw for the upper midwest....

october 18   (saturday)   chicago, il
october 20   (monday)     madison, wi

not sure of the venue names.  i didn't have
a pen with me and i didn't buy the mag.  yep,
i'm one of those stand-there-for-an-hour-read-it-and-
put-it-back-unless-it-has-cool-articles-or-pictures-of-
my-fave-artists types.  shame on me.  :)  ok, i only do
it for half an hour, not an hour.....i just flip faster then.  :)

there were more dates listed, most around ny i think,
but i didn't remember them by the time i got home.
sorry.

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howdy all,
thanks for cheering up my day with the thoughts of the girls coming here in jan.
i  would love to catch up with any other listers who make it over here and
can offer some accom as well.
take care
jen

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lisa wrote...

>i was surfing the net tonight and did my obligatory
>ticketmaster search on my favorite artists.  when i
>did ig, it came up with:
>
>ig in jacksonville, fl on september 25, '97
>
>but, if you click on this, it says something to the
>effect of no info available.....event could have been
>cancelled, etc.  is this just a start on ig's fall tour,
>or a mistake?  anyone know?

the honor the earth tour will be taking place along the east coast in
september. jacksonville must be one of the dates.

deb

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jasmine ma <jasmine.ma@yale.edu> asked:

> has anyone heard of kennedy rose? it's two women, pam rose and mary ann
> kennedy. a friend of mine has a tape of theirs called hai ku. it's a little
> country, a little folky. mostly country. love songs. it was put out by
> pangaea records in 1989. he (my friend) is looking around for more of their
> stuff, but hasn't found any. i thought maybe you guys on the list might have
> some ideas?

i've always thought that kennedy rose were what ig's would sound like if
they were country-folk instead of rock-folk. really nice harmonies and
great songwriting. anyway, they did put out a second album, "walk the
line," also on pangaea -- came out in 1994. i don't think it is quite as
good as "hai ku" but it's an excellent album nonetheless. some country
singer or other had a hit with their song "safe in the arms of love,"
which is on "walk the line" -- can't remember who it was, though! i'd
really recommend both albums to ig fans who enjoy slightly more
acoustic/country-ish stuff. glad to hear someone else listens to them!

-anne in indiana


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hi all!
okay, so yesterday, i went to buy 1200 curfews after getting my entire cd
collection stolen.  i buy it, get in the car, go to find the liner notes,
and
they are not there!  i bought this exact same cd (digipak) last time, and it
had liner notes.  are they not putting them in there anymore, or are mine
just missing?  and how can i get them?  e-mail responses privately please.
  thanks for the help..
~kelly


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hi all!
okay, so yesterday, i went to buy 1200 curfews after getting my entire cd
collection stolen.  i buy it, get in the car, go to find the liner notes, and
they are not there!  i bought this exact same cd (digipak) last time, and it
had liner notes.  are they not putting them in there anymore, or are mine
just missing?  and how can i get them?  e-mail responses privately please.
thanks for the help..
~kelly

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hey there, i bought the set and found that the liner notes were not there
also. but then i went to best buy (where i'd bought them) and an
acquaintence of mine who works there hooked me up with some notes. i don't
know why one set had them and one didn't. it's still a bit of a mystery.

khw

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a friend sent me some email that there's an interview with a & e in
"goldmine" magazine.


nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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hi y'all/. back after a long hiatus which included a trip to india, 2
viruses, one fried motherboard, and one hard disk crash!

but the good news is that the girls are going to be played on kera 90.1
(dallas/fort worth area) at 11.00 p.m. tonight in a show called sidetracks
which will "highlight their new album shaming of the sun". perhaps this is
old news to all of you but i would know at this point!

urvashi

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if anyone should happen to live there (i live soooo close, austin), and will
record it and wouldn't mind trading, i'd love to get a copy. email me if you
are that generous person :)

michelle

hi y'all/. back after a long hiatus which included a trip to india, 2
viruses, one fried motherboard, and one hard disk crash!

but the good news is that the girls are going to be played on kera 90.1
(dallas/fort worth area) at 11.00 p.m. tonight in a show called sidetracks
which will "highlight their new album shaming of the sun". perhaps this is
old news to all of you but i would know at this point!

ur >>

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oops!  as has been pointed out to me, in my previous posting about aids
walk atlanta i failed to mention that the *suggested* sponsorship donation
is $10 or more, but i say whatever a person is comfortable in giving is
fine with me.  every bit helps!

thanks!
amy

p.s.  as a reminder, if you want to get involved, the number for awa is
(404) 876- walk.  if you'd love to help out with a donation, i'm accepting
them.  if you deleted the first posting, email me privately and i'll give
you the info.  =)

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hey...

dunno how many of you all are viva la diva fans, or if this has been
mentioned before, but it is cool...on the "greatest hits vol. 1" cd, the
song "when you're ready" (which is an utterly awesome song--i reccomend
playing it really loud :-) ), amy r. sings back-up.  unremarkable, i know,
except for in one part, she's saying "you'll shed your skin, you'll shed
your skin."  i thought this was kinda interesting.  also, if any of
you have read the chickenman soc from i can't remember where, where its about
"would you know these hands if they weren't on you, would you know this hair
cut off, sprinkled around...", this song is obviously related.

anyway, this is kind of rambling and pointless, but i just wanted to share.

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just wondering if anyone knows the tour schedule of
the indigo girls for today (8/4).  the lilith fair is performing
tonight in dallas and there is a surprise guest playing early that
is rumored to be the indigo girls. if you know that
they are currently somewhere else, please let me know.

thanks,
patricia

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subject:      vacation-sigc

i just got back from a wonderfully refreshing trip to the sierra nevada town
of mammoth lakes, with stunning scenery, crisp air and endless hiking trails.
yup, i put on my wool socks and tevas after soaking my sore feet after long
hikes . i used to live in mammoth and caught up with friends and relatives.
there was a great reggae show (black uhuru) up at the ski area  and i was
dancing with a group of friends under a sky so clear you could see the soft
fuzziness of the milky way like a canopy on which the stars sat. when we were
having a beer i mentioned i had seen the girls at the berkeley shows and was
immediately swamped with requests for boots. everyone expressed envy at my
being able to see them, and i was surprised because the mammoth music crowd
is mostly deadheads, dreadheads or punkers. turns out that everyone up there
loves sots and copies are circulated from the original: yes, it's not cool to
do that but everyone in mammoth is unemployed for nearly 5 months a year. i
promised to send them any boots i could get (seona, my blanks are on their
way to you). i seem to have become an unofficial ig music distributor to the
high-altitude masses.
on my last day in the mountains i drove over to the looney bean for some
coffee and had my 1200 curfews tape on. some folks hanging out in the parking
lot heard "tangled..." and asked what i had on the stereo. since the tiny
local music store doesn't stock any ig i left the sierras with a shopping
list for some new ig fans. i think i'll slip in some michelle malone while
i'm at it.

spreading the ig gospel throughout tiny mountain villages,
karen

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does anyone know which gerard mchugh album has thin line on it?
i have done several searches and cannot find a track listing anywhere.

thanks,
derek

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i looked up the review in 181.4 online, and i have an observation:

in the review he quotes 'leeds' as "...a politician licks my eye and says
to me..."

i really think it is "locks" not "licks".

but it made me laugh(;  strange mental image, some politician licking
emily's eye while he assures her there's no crisis...

happy day,
jennie

"you said the world was magic i was wide-eyed and laughin'..."
                        -amy ray

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>date: mon, 4 aug 1997 11:44:45 -0400 (edt)
>from: seegar swanson <sswanso@sph.emory.edu>
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>this message is being distributed to the fiddler's green coffeehouse email
>distribution list. typically we send out but one message per month
>offering details of our show held the third saturday in atlanta, but
>occasionally we send out an extra one to notify our fans of special items
>concerning folk/acoustic performances or whatnot. if you would like to be
>removed from our list, or are reading this message on a newsgroup and
>would like future notices to be sent directly to your inbox, please send
>us an email at sswanso@sph.emory.edu and advise accordingly.

>3. rainy day records leaves atlanta
>
>it is with great sadness that we report the imminent departure from
>atlanta of one of the best independent record stores on the planet. from
>their narrow storefront location in the toco hills shopping center on
>north druid hills road, owners perry and marsha and staffer jeff have
>served as a central headquarters of product and information pertaining to
>folk, acoustic and alternative music. most local (and quite a few not so
>local) collectors have spent many an hour perusing the numerous bins of
>vinyl in that store, and there aren't many local musicians who haven't
>been helped in some way early in their careers by these wonderful people.
>adroit early use of the internet/world wide web and a toll free phone line
>have given the store an international reputation as one of the top
>independents in the u.s.
>
>perry and marsha will be packing up their stuff and moving to a new
>location in key west. the new store's location at 515 fleming street, key
>west, fl 33040 is in the heart of the historic district, and promises to
>do a brisk local business. those of us who wish to shop without traveling
>to the keys will still be able to reach them at 800-636-6166.
>
>sunday 8/10 through tuesday 8/12 have been targeted for packing up the
>inventory and a sort of continous going away party, so be sure to stop by
>and wish them the best if you get the chance.
>
>until our regular notice next week,
>
>miki & seegar swanson
>fiddler's green coffeehouse
>atlanta area friends of folk music
>http://www.hidwater.com/aaffm

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hi.  sorry about the nigc but i was wondering if anyone could tell me how
to get on the ellen list or where to look to find out how.  i hope all is
well in indigo land.

fellow list member,
heather   jofarn@frontiernet.net

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hey folks :)

here's a few new things i picked up. some of the items are one of a kind
sort of things so they won't be relevant to your list of 'stuff to get'
, but they are cool to hear about anyway!

1-the first and my favorite item is a hand written invoice on indigo girls
stationary. the stationary has the old style indigo girls printed at the
top and then a street address underneath. amy wrote the contents.

date. nov. 27 1987
items  lmm ii album- 5
           lmm  ii casette- 5

at 6.00 a piece

to be paid on consignment- amy ray (signature)

                                                received


2-then there is another ig stationary item that says 'keep one send me the
other. thanks for the business, amy'

3-the back half of a receipt..just the copied part..from a 1988
transaction. signed by amy

4-this is a cool one! when the girls were recording tangled up in blue for
the tribute to bob dylan album...amy wrote out the 3rd, 4th and 5th verses
of the song on yellow legal paper. i'm thinking this will be cool framed
with the cd cover and whatever else i can dig up on the recording session.

5-one to get: indigo girls promo writing pen circa 1989. a white body on
the pen with a blue cap and indigo girls printed in blue on it

6-emily name and phone number on back of business card. a nice piece from
the old days. (dare me to call the number? not!)

7-face of concern - a 1987 7" record featuring emily

a bunch of other stuff..but nothing really unusual. i did get another
original strangefire cassette..those seem to be tougher to find than the
vinyl. i'll be posting a list of compilations that the girls appear on
soon. i only have one class this fall so i hope to be putting a lot of
time into the web site...including audio/video/forms and so on. if anyone
needs anything or has any new collectibles news..drop me a line.
here's a list of stuff from the friends collection that is still
available:

cd
..
hammer and nail cd single: $12 sold
watershed +2 live cd single:$20 sold
joking cd single: $10 sold
three hits e.p.: $30 one left
i dont' wanna talk about it cd single: $12
touch me fall u.s. cd single: $10 sold
least complicated cd single: $8 sold
reunion cd single: $15 sold
club r & r: $115 sold
reverse one: $115 sold
rites of passage digipak promo: $40 one left
rites of passage jewel promo: $24 one left
power of two cd single: $8 sold
touch me fall australian cd single: $15 one left
power of two w/ rockin in the free world cd single: $10 sold
bury my heart +2 live cd single: $15 two left
breaking curfews: $16 sold
shame on you cd single: $10 sold
starter kit: $10 sold
shaming of the sun promo in sleevepak: $26 one left

vinyl
.....
7" closer to fine/cold as ice: $22 one left
7" closer to fine/closer to fine promo: $26 one left
12" closer to fine/history of us/center stage: $30 sold
e.p. dragon path music: $325 on hold but not sold
land of canaan +5 live: $36 one left
shades of indigo: $44 sold
rites of passage white label test pressing: $45 two left
swamp signed green vinyl: $40 sold
swamp signed black vinyl: $24 three left

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on sun, 3 aug 1997, lisa m. schreihart wrote:

> i was looking at a new music magazine in
> blockbuster music and saw some dates for
> ani difranco's tour.
>
> october 18   (saturday)   chicago, il
> october 20   (monday)     madison, wi

and i'll add an october 19th show at hill auditorium in ann arbor :)
the on-sale date is not until late august/early september.


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>>sara formed the stilettos in 1978, a punk band based in london.<<

does anyone know anything about this band?  in a book i have called _she
bop_ which is a history of women in music, it mentions the stilettos as
debbie harry's band before blondie.  no mention of any other band members
but it is referred to as a trio.

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hi everyone.  i'm new here so i don't know if this was ever discussed but...
  last summer the girls did a tour to try out the new stuff and i saw it in
nyc at the roxy, i believe.  they were pretty strict but i was wondering if
anyone got a boot of it.
thanks,
carrie
the show was in august but i'm not sure of the date

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subject:      may 22nd knoxville tn boot???

   i was just wondering if someone was able to get a boot of the
may 22 show in knoxville tn.  i didn't see much mention of the show or a
boot but i would be real interested in getting a copy.  let me know if
anyone has one.  thanks

kevin mitchell

e-mail: mitchell@rachel.read.tasc.com

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at 02:09 pm 8/3/97 -0600, you wrote:
>one more thing: i've seen recent ideas for songs we'd love to hear ig
>cover; here's my idea: every time i hear the piano intro for "leeds"
>(which i love, btw), i think "gosh, emily would do a really good cover of
>"maybe i'm amazed" (wings).  whaddya think?

being the supreme mccartney fan that i am, i have to second this. it would
be a great one to hear from emily. another perfect mccartney song for her
range and ability would be a newer song, "calico skies," from flaming pie.
the thought of it just sends chills. as for amy, i'd love to hear her cover
a not-so-famous wings song called "getting closer." i can just see amy up
there on stage belting out the lines, "say you don't love me, my
salamander." would be nice...

jendy

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in a message dated 97-08-04 13:38:35 edt, you write:

<< does anyone know which gerard mchugh album has thin line on it?
i have done several searches and cannot find a track listing anywhere.
  >>
more than i - on sale through daemon for $6
http://www.monsterbit.com/daemon/

resa

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gee, to think of all the "collectables" i've
tossed out these 10 years.  ;-)

tt


p.s.
i do keep the postcards though...

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request:  for anyone recording the show/radio appearance in the texas area
today, please e-mail me, and continue to read on.

offer:  if i can get a copy of that interview, i can arrange to put it
together with the interview (about 30 minutes) that was done at
kmtt/seattle...i'll record it from the  musiccentral web site.  then i can
offer up a tape tree or something to get that out to some people.  without
another show, the musiccentral interview (which is really good) is only 30
minutes long.

that's it.

bye
seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu

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ok, so after much gnashing of teeth and trying to make up my mind, i'm
going to lilith fair at deer creek. gonna end up sitting by myself on the
lawn, probably run into my ex with her sweetie (last time i saw ig's was
with her right before we broke up, so it should be interesting seeing them
alone this time), and have to make a mad dash for the car the minute it's
over 'cause i have to drive 150 miles afterwards. (and considering i'm
working at 8 am friday morning, it's going to be a looooong day.) plus, i
really can't afford to be spending this money... but, if i don't go, i
will keep thinking about the fact that i could've heard mm with the girls
('cause i'm sure she'll pop up on stage), and i would kick myself for a
long time for missing that one. i hope it's worth it...

anyway, my question is this: for those of you who've been to lf, does it
run pretty much on schedule? that is to say, if the schedule says ig's
start at 9:00, do they pretty much start right at 9? and does sarah end
pretty much at 11 as scheduled? if things are running late, i am
definitely going to have to leave during her set (there ain't enough
caffeine in the world to keep me awake driving 150 miles on a 4-lane road
with nobody on it, after a long work week and a really long day) and if
that's going to happen, i kinda want to prepare myself for it.

anyhow, i'll be wandering around on the lawn, probably wearing a heather
gray national women's music festival t-shirt, with glasses & long wavy
brown hair. say hi if you see me. :)

-anne in indiana

"we need new words/ for what this is, this hunger entering our/ loneliness
  like birds, stunning our eyes into rays/ of hope. we need the flutter that
  can save/ us, something that will swirl across the face/ of what we have
          become and bring us grace."  --lucille clifton, "blake"
*** anne haines ** ahaines@indiana.edu ** http://php.indiana.edu/~ahaines ***

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subject:      re kennedy rose (barely any igc)

they are awesome!  i saw them in concert in '90 (the week before
i saw shawn colvin for the first time)--they are to die for!
great songs, great harmonies---great guitar work.  pam rose
is another great guitar goddess--i'd love to hear pam and emily
play something sometime. i don't know what happened to them since
they haven't put out anything since they recorded in 1994.  i wish
they'd put something new out.  this ig fan loves kennedy rose!

ann
(counting the days 'til the aug. 24 lilith fair concert with sarah
mclachlan, shawn colvin, indigo girls and other artists to be
announced.......)

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what a waste it is to lose one's mind or not to have a mind
at all is being very wasteful.
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hi - does anyone know how to get a hold of any of don's stuff?  i've heard
a couple songs of his on acoustic café (one w/emily - "boxes of bones"?)
but have never been able to find any of his cds.  thanks for any info!
-sarah
swardrop@sps.edu

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hello all,

        i was wondering if anyone booted the girls at the
charlotte lilith show.  i would love to have have a copy.
if anyone can help please e-mail me.

thanks,
cindy

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subject:      wendy bucklew...??

hey y'all...
   i'm very curious, who is this woman?  i've seen a couple posts about her
playing shows, but have never heard her....what's she like?
thanks!
~jen

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subject:      nigc: michelle malone lyrics

hey all,
i am currently undergoing a huge michelle malone conversion-- i love her new
album-- run, do not walk, & buy it immediately!! i saw her do an acoustic set
at a borders on sunday & she was soo good. that woman has a voice.
but-- my dilemma is this: there are no printed lyrics!!! i realize that this
is probably due to $$ constraints, but i hate it whan there are no lyrics. so
i am coming to you all hoping that someone can send me some, or point me to a
website or something...
i did a search using altavista-- & while i came up with some cool sites-- i
didn't find lyrics. help! (still-- there are worse things than having to
listen to a cd over & over again transcribing lyrics...)
thanks,
alexandra

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sarah wardrop wrote:
>
> hi - does anyone know how to get a hold of any of don's stuff?  i've heard
> a couple songs of his on acoustic café (one w/emily - "boxes of bones"?)
> but have never been able to find any of his cds.  thanks for any info!
> -sarah
> swardrop@sps.edu
> you should try to find his cd's online from rainy day records.  they
are here in atlanta.  i know their website is up to date usually.

marsha

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am i remembering this right?  did some people mention that there was a
radio simulcast of the ppv'ed great woods show?  if someone taped this,
i'd really like to have a copy.
-garian

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subject:      aids walk chicago

the posts about atlanta got me thinking...  i am the captain of a walk team
for aids walk chicago on september 28.  it is a sunday morning.  officially
it is a team of umass alumni, but mostly it is just me and my friends.  we
had a great time last year, and plan to do it again.  anyone in the
chicagoland area want to join us??
email me: amurphy958@aol.com w/questions, include your snail mail if you want
me to send you a sponsor sheet.

thanks

aileen

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subject:      nigc - ani boots

i'm looking for ani difranco audio and
video concert boots.   can anyone help?
if so, please e-mail me privately.
thanks!

lisa
lschreihart@juno.com

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subject:      a new thread........

i was thinking.....deep thoughts....not
original thoughts, but deep, nonetheless.

how about this thread?.....

why do we hurdle ourselves through
every inch of time and space?

i think it's partly because we always want
more and better.  we never stop to think
about what we do have, to count and
appreciate our blessings.  we never
focus on the here and now.  our mind is
always one step ahead of our lives, which
makes us miss out on a lot of life.

there probably are many more reasons.....which
may be unique to each person.....so, why do
y'all think this is true?

here's my wisdom for the week.....and i've got to make
myself do this just as much as the next person......
take some time this week to enjoy a sunset....look up into
the sky and try to guess what shapes are
in the clouds, as we all used to do as kids....take
some deep breaths and look around you....smell
some flowers.....or at least notice them.  it's amazing
what these things can do for a person.  and have
an indigo day!

lisa

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subject:      booting, whoo-hoooos, and lack of dialogue

hey y'all,

a commentary.....

not too many days ago, i got a boot in the mail
from the show i went to on my b-day.  the woman
who booted the show was right behind us.  we
knew she was booting and were looking to get a great
copy later on.  now that i've heard this boot, i have
to say.....geez, it would have been such a great
boot without all those excessive whooo-hoooos,
talking during songs, and yelping out shit in between
songs.

a whooo-hooo here and there is great...they show
appreciation for the music and for a&e, but some people
can't stop whoooo-hoooing through an entire song.
and then there's all the talking.  i'd just like to
request that people pay attention to everyone
around them and be cognizant of booters.   you'd
be surprised what you sound like.  one comment that
was very obvious about the boot i got was, "amy's
wearing a shitload of makeup!"  ok, it may have
been an innocent observation and kinda amusing, but....
(and, oops, i think that may have come from our group.  :0)
now, i'm probably just as bad, because i rarely pay
attention to what i yell at concerts (i'm just having too
much darn fun), but i think we all should be a bit more
considerate of what we yell, and when we yell it.

most importantly, why do you think amy and emily don't
talk to the audience as much as they used to?  well,
they are listening to us yak and yell shit out!  put yourself
in their place.   they're standing up there taking it all in and
figure....let 'em go right on and scream their heads off.   they
probably couldn't get many words in edgewise if they wanted to.
the best boots i've heard.....the ones with the most
dialogue....are the ones where the audience is dead
quiet between some songs while a&e are talking
freely to the audience.  a&e seem the most enthusiastic
about sharing their thoughts and the most
open about what they share then...and they are the most
relaxed then.  they know that people are listening and
caring about each and every thing they have to say.

we all know there is a time to yell, and a time to sing our fool
heads off, but sometimes there is a time to sit back, relax
and let a&e do the talking.  and, for cryin' out loud, stop talking
during "hey kind friend" and "leeds"!  that pisses me off.

i imagine most people who do these things at concerts aren't
listees, 'cause we appreciate listeners more
than yelpers, don't we?  ok, i'll get off my soap box now.  don't
think i'm blaming all of you, since i know most of us know
better; i'm just expressing my disdain for the whole over-
zealous, obnoxious, fanhood syndrome.  i'm sure most
of us agree.  so, i'm probably "preaching to the choir", but
maybe someone who needs to get something out of this will.
plus, i've heard complaints, or concerns, coming from the list
about a&e not talking to the audience as much as they used
to....it's not as if they are disinterested in sharing their thoughts
with us....so there must be another obvious reason.  problem is
that as the audiences get bigger, the fans get more obnoxious
and less considerate.  as a whole, they're changing the ig
concert experience.  how can this change, or will it always get
worse?

am i hitting the nail on the head here, or am i way off?

thanks for listening!
lisa

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hey y'all!  while i'm temporarily unemployed and bored, i decided to type
up all this stuff.  i do not personally own all these things, but if you
want them, i can give you the name and address of the place that's selling
them.  almost everything is from a different source.  happy shopping! :)

"shame on you" (australian import)  $10
"club r&r"  $85
"shaming of the sun" promo cd  $12
"bury my heart at wounded knee" single including "thin line"  $6
"shame on you" radio single  $8
"power of two" single  $5
"three hits" 5 song promo cd  $8
"watershed" single  $8
"indigo girls" lp  $7
promo calender 1997-1998  $18  (a rip off if you ask me)
"least complicated" promo single  $4
rites of passage tourbook from 1992  $6
"closer to fine" single 45" vinyl  $10
"honor" press kit  $25
"1200 ticket" press kit  $25
"curfews" press kit  $25
"swamp ophelia" press kit  $25
indigo girls promo video - 1997  $25

that's it!  send me an email if you are interested in any of these items,
and i'll give you an email address and a phone number.  :)

bye y'all!
sue

jgharney@advicom.net

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a friend of mine is looking for one ticket, anywhere in the venue seats or
lawn, to the chicago lilith fair this saturday. she is in the chicago area
now, but does not have any internet access at all, so i am posting on her
behalf. please email me if you have an extra ticket. thanks!

eddie
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subject:      nashville, michelle malone, etc. nigc (attn: joan morrison)

hello, all! =)
      i have no time to write or read right now, but i just wanted to let you
all know that if i haven't already sent out your michelle malone stuff, i
will do so very shortly. =)  there is a slight problem with some of the tee
shirts, so i'll have to talk to a few of you individually this week, thus the
delay in shipment...
      the second thing is that i'll be in nashville this week.  leaving
tomorrow night, and i'd like to see whoever's going to be there! =)  (hi,
joan!)  i won't have time to get my e-mail after 7:30 tomorrow morning, so,
joan, if you get this and want to e-mail me your number before then, please
do and i'll call you when i'm in town. =)
      i guess that['s all... i really must go... i'll talk to you all soon!
=)  peace,. love, and road trips, sarah

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subject:      correction to my overly-flowery commentary

where are my keen (?) grammar skillls?

part of my overly-flowery commentary said....

"...... i'd just like to
request that people pay attention to everyone
around them and be cognizant of booters.   you'd
be surprised what you sound like.  one comment that
was very obvious about the boot i got was, "amy's
wearing a shitload of makeup!"

what i meant was....

"i'd like to request that people be more considerate of
everyone around them and be cognizant of booters.
you'd be surprised what you sound like if you heard
yourself yelling on tape.  one comment that was loud
and clear on the boot i got was,....."

geez, i musta been in a soc.  :)

i do giggle at the "shitload of makeup" comment.  it
was innocent, and heck, it was all in fun.  but, my oh
my, was it loud on tape!  funny thing is that i don't
recall hearing anyone yell that at the concert.  hmmmm.....
but now, the evidence is on tape.

lisa

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usf sun dome on sept 26. my back yard! maybe i should have a party.
tickets go on sale this week.
we are fortunate ones,
joe
http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateone

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subject:      ah, here i go again

ok, now i just noticed i messed up on
em's lyrics when i posted that "thread".
i can see bad grammar, but
misquoting em????

it's "hurtle ourselves", not "hurdle ourselves".
<sheepish grin>

webster says:

hurdle - to overcome
hurtle - to move swiftly and with great force; hurl

man, i really need to go to bed.  but the vocabulary
lesson for myself is useful.  the only time i tend
to look in webster's is when i'm sitting at my
computer.

plus, i guess this thread was discussed before, huh?
<another sheepish grin, and one too many>

lisa

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in addition to the dates that lisa and joe have announced, here are a few i
came across:

9-13-1997   lewiston, me  / bates college, gray fieldhouse
9-15-1997  poughkeepsie, nymarist college / mccann center fieldhouse
9-19-1997  boone, nc / appalachian state university, gym
9-20-1997  blacksburg, va / burruss auditorium
9-21-1997  columbia, sc / the township arena
9-25-1997  jacksonville, fl/ florida theatre
9-26-1997  tampa , fl / university of south florida, the sun dome
9-27-1997  west palm beach, fl / coral sky amphitheatre
10-18-1997  valdosta state, ga /  valdosta state complex

deb

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oops, i noticed a typo

>9-15-1997  poughkeepsie, nymarist college / mccann center fieldhouse

that should be poughkeepsie, ny / marist college

i didn't mean to create a whole new school :)

deb

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subject:      actually serious and even igc!

--- you wrote:
problem is
that as the audiences get bigger, the fans get more obnoxious
and less considerate.  as a whole, they're changing the ig
concert experience.  how can this change, or will it always get
worse?
--- end of quote ---

here's my thoughts on this:

if you are booting a show, ask nicely for the people around you to be quiet and
you will make them a copy. usually works, unless of course you are the one
talking ;-)

if you are not booting, don't expect people to stop woo-hooing. just because we
think amy and emily walk on water and would like a pure, unadulterated concert
experience free of comments like "amy is wearing a shit load of makeup" and
"which one is emily?"...not everyone is as diehard as us. wishing they are is a
pipedream... a big crack pipedream.

sometimes, it's fun to go to concerts and really observe the antics (which
might otherwise be annoying) of those around you. at great woods, sue and i
were treated to some *lovely * interpretive dance this really drunk woman was
performing for us. it was a hoot.

just my thoughts!

sus

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subject:      indigo article in cincinnati enquirer

my girlfriend (who doesn't even really like the girls) tipped me off to this
article in the sunday, august 3rd article of the cincinnati enquirer.  it was
alongside an article on lilith fair.  in the lilith article they had a row of
pictures with the times they were apearing underneath, and the girls were
both in one little block (which is now taped to my monitor at work).  next to
the article to follow was a big picture of them.  amy's hair is cut real
short, and she's wearing a slip dress wtih boots that look like clogs.  she
looks like a real hick ::chuckle::  em's wearing jeans and a long shirt.
  (oh, i had to dig this outta' the garbage, because it was thrown away by my
parents by accident).  and the article.
all errors are mine own unless pointed out.

indigo girls take some risks
duo take charge of production
by dan deluca
knight-ridder news service

  to chat with the indigo girls about music, politics, ellen or the folkies'
sixth studio album, shaming of the sun (epic), is easy.  the indigos are so
open, so down-to-earth and so "nice".
  the project represents the pair's first attempt at producing, a task they
shared with longtime engineer david leonard.
  after starting the project with peter collins, who produced swamp ophelia
and 1992's rites of passage, "we realized we wanted to try new things to keep
it fresh," said amy ray, 33, the dark-haired indigo, dressed in a red leather
jacket and a "live for jesus!" t-shirt.
  "we needed to carry the load of responsibility ourselves.  before, it was
always like someone was directing us."
  under their own supervision, the indigos decided to take some risks.  "shed
your skin" kicks off with a hip-hop drum loop, and employs the american
indian vocal trio ulali.  "don't give that girl a gun" is powered by
aggressive guitars.  and the album's catchy first single, "shame on you," is
a bopping, rocking sing-along that features emily saliers on banjo and
bouzouki, and a guest vocal-and-harmonica break by steve earle.
  the instantly accesible "shame on you" and the indigo girl's expanding cult
following has led epic to expect big things of the album, despite the fact
that previous singles such as "kid fears," "closer to fine" and "the power of
two" failed to crack mainstream radio.
  but top 40 success ins't an indigo goal, mrs. ray says with a laugh.  "we'd
probably try to sabatoge it if it happened.  it's more important to keep
experimenting and keep things fresh."
  shaming is the most overtly political album yet from the two spiritually
inclined artists, who have long been involved in environmental, women's and
gay issues.  (they beat ellen degeneres out of the closet by years.)  ms. ray
takes on european colonialism on the awkward, rocked-out "scooter boys"; ms.
saliers sings about the burning of black churches in the overly poetic diary
entry "leeds."
  their 1995 "honor the earth" tour, in which they traveled with american
indian activists and played numerous reservations, was a radicalizing
experience, both say.
  "some songs benefit from more nuanced or poetic expression," ms. saliers
says.  but during that tour, "i learned that some songs need to be more
direct."
  the indigos are also more willing to sing from a lesbian perspective.  ms.
saliers' "it's alright" is more melodically and lyrically direct than most
indigio tunes and addresses discrimination.  its [sic] lyrics -- "it's
alright if you hate that way, hate me cause[sic] i'm different, hate me
'cause i'm gay" -- further strenghens the bond the duo has with the
hand-holding female couples at their shows.
  "there was a long period of time where i wasn't comfortable talking about
my homosexuality in the press, " ms. saliers says.  "we didn't want to be gay
arists before we were artists."
  ms. saliers is in a relaionship she describes as "very strong," and ms.
ray, who recently broke up with a girlfriend of seven years, says she's "not
looking."
  they couldn't be more delighted by ellen [italics] and ms. degeneres.
"the whole world can map the emotional reactons she had, and all of her
fears," ms. ray says.
  ms. ray owns the independent daemon label, and back home, both play in
pickup bands for fun.  their enthusiasm for singer-songwriting icons such as
david crosby and james taylor is obvious, but in conversation they're equally
excited about patti smith and the clash, and express solidarity with such
policital rockers as rage against the machine.
  they're even good-natured about their image among non-fans as a couple of
veggie-patty-eating-earth-huggers who wear their bleeding hearts on their
sleeves.
  "it's true," ms. ray says, laughing.
  but ms. saliers would like to make a slight clarification:  "were sincere.
but when i hear the word 'earnest', i think of people who are trying to
convert you or convicne you that they're right.  we just sing about things
that we care about.  and whether people want to listen to it or not, that
ok."

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why do we hurtle ourselves through
every inch of time and space?

why do we anyway?
do we hurtle oursleves - force ourselves - rush through everything just
to get them done - and why?

i've been in the real world (not on mtv) for over a year now, and
sometimes i feel like i'm just rotting away at my desk, working for the
government at almost a minimum wage - and for what - i don't think i
really support my company's goals but i am only here for one thing -
$$$$$$$$ - but why?  it just sucks that the focus on everything is
money, and you can't be "happy" or "secure" without it ?!?  why is that?
i think the big cities just promote that way of thinking - bigger is better -
more expensive is better - so you have to work everyday until you can
afford the biggest apt. on park avenue in order to enjoy life to the fullest -
but would life's pressures be the same if advancement and capitalism
weren't so prevalent in our lives?  i don't think so, maybe the country is
my next step (not too far away from future ig touring locations - of
course!)

so i agree with ye started o' this thread - we must stop and smell the
roses, or just notice them, or just look at them, or just cut one off (on an
angle, of course  :p ...) and give it to a loved one, but yes we (i) must just
enjoy every moment of life while we (i) can....(i didn't mean to cut your
flower off- lisa <oops>)

maybe just don't be hurtled through a life full of hurtling things and
people.  (does that make sense...it's my witty (sort of) summation)

there's my .0198 cents ...... maybe next time i'll get my whole two cents
out but i would end up flaming the whole world, and that might make a
few readers irked....

but yes, we can enjoy the day while it's still here!!!!!!
and so have an indigo day!!!!!

mkc

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on tue, 5 aug 1997, susan b. marine wrote:

> if you are not booting, don't expect people to stop woo-hooing. just because we
> think amy and emily walk on water and would like a pure, unadulterated concert
> experience free of comments like "amy is wearing a shit load of makeup" and
> "which one is emily?"...not everyone is as diehard as us. wishing they are is a
> pipedream... a big crack pipedream.
>
here's the thing -- the people around you are part of the concert
experience, hooting, hollering, dancing, etc. if you wanted just to hear
a&e and nothing else, listen to the cd. when you go to a concert, it's to
see & hear live music, sure, but there is also the component of being in a
mass of like-minded people, with all their little ...peculiarities.

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cincinnati college of pharmacy. actor, director, ibm fanatic, technical
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at: "http://ucunix.san.uc.edu/~vogelap"     "the only way out is through."
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ric: isn't "the man" the guy who's always bringing everyone down?
dug: nope! 'cause you da man!!
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hi all,

three friends and i are driving from florida to michigan this weekend
for the michigan womyn's music festival.  we plan to stop in nashville
on saturday night and chicago on sunday night.  we have plans for
chicago, but we're looking for fun things to do in nashville.

is anybody familiar enough with the city to suggest some fun places for
four women in their mid-20's to go on a saturday night?

thanks!

kim
kpaulus@mpinc.com

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date:         tue, 5 aug 1997 09:52:45 mdt
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subject:      red rocks 7/18 joke set list

heya, i received a photo copy of the 7/18 red rocks set list
in the mail yesterday from the girl who got the original.  i
thought i'd post it, it's pretty funny.  i think this is what
the girls were working on (and laughing about) during the
opening act.  i tried to preserve their capitalization.
i think someone posted the real set list, which i can repost
if anyone gets confused by the stuff below.  :)  enjoy!
- elizabeth

red rocks, 2nd nite   * sandy is our harmonica player - he is
                        sitting in tonight!  fine then!

                             amy   emily   sara   jerry   josh
1. history                   a5    e3       /              /
2. three tits                a4    e1                      v
3. im lost                   mando banjo   vox             a(2)
4. dont give guy guitar      a1    e1      vox             str
5. ghonnorid                 a4    strat   moog
6. e=mc^2                    a2    e3      acoust          /     sandy
7. blame the crew            elec  banjo
                                   strat
8. sara lee's constipated    a2    e1      whist           m
9. hooter boys               a3    nat     vox/moog        p      ?
10. follows/shawshank        /a1   piano   /               v
11. fat swine                a4    e2      acoust          m      sandy
12. toast                    a2    e1      /               /
13. dumb loop song           elec  nat     vox/moog        bc,m
14. all fucked up!           a2    e2                      jj
15. old mcdonald             a1    e1                      /      sandy
16. hal + leo                a3    e3                      v

1. nothing's on time         a2    e4                      v
2. just another song               nat     vox             elec   sandy
3. closer to home                  e1                      v

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subject:      hi and ...a new thread

hi

i'm carole.  i'm new to the list and have been lurking @ a month or so as
recommended by the nice folks who provide this.  i live on vashon island,
wa--near seattle in the puget sound.  i had the great pleasure of seeing the
three shows at the pier in seattle and was moved to the depths from all the
great energy generated by the indigos and the fans.

i have been enjoying this new thread re: "hurtle ourselves through every inch
of time and space".  i have been recently examining my time and how i use it.
i always feel like i don't have enough time.  feels like i'm either rushing
through life, wasting time or  feeling short of time.  i am going to learn to
slow down, and enjoy the simple and free things in life.  things like good
health, good friends, my beautiful garden, the shining sun and the like.  i
am realizing how much my own fears impact my moods and outlook.

just last week i spent the day hiking alone on mt. ranier feeling fragile
from a recently ended 8-year relationship.  caramia played over-and-over in
my head.  must be a lesson inside for me there.  the beauty and resilience of
the forest is another good lesson for me.

anyway thanks for this beautiful list for all things indigo!
                                           carole

p.s. i would enjoy meeting others going to lilith in vancouver, b.c.
p.s.  i would enjoy meeting up with o

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subject:      red rocks 7/18 actual list

had a couple requests for the repost of the actual 7/18
red rocks set list so people could match joke with real
song.  also, i should give credit to tamar springer for
being sweet enough to send me that list.

elizabeth

actual set list:
******************
1. mystery
2. three hits
3. get out the map
4. don't give that girls a gun
5. caramia
6. power of two
7. shame on you
8. least complicated
9. scooter boys
10. leeds/redemption song
11. thin line
12. ghost
13. shed your skin
14. it's alright
15. chickenman w/ landslide
16. galileo

encore:
1. everything in it's own time
2. bury my heart at wounded knee
3. closer to fine

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ill ask again is anyone gonna boot this show particulary the murmurs
performance if they do boot the murmurs part id like a copy

on tue, 5 aug 1997, kim paulus wrote:

> hi all,
>
> three friends and i are driving from florida to michigan this weekend
> for the michigan womyn's music festival.  we plan to stop in nashville
> on saturday night and chicago on sunday night.  we have plans for
> chicago, but we're looking for fun things to do in nashville.
>
> is anybody familiar enough with the city to suggest some fun places for
> four women in their mid-20's to go on a saturday night?
>
> thanks!
>
> kim
> kpaulus@mpinc.com
>
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after reading the article in acoustic mag.  of ig, i started messing around
trying to find out the chords to everythign in it's own time.  well, i think
i got most of it.  the tuning is the most important thing.   dafad capo on
the 4th fret.
the main chords played are
d7sus 000010

c         032010

d5       000230

that's what's played most of the time.  there's another little chords
progression that you hear in the beginning and jsut a little throughout the
song, but i haven't had time to figure that out yet.  maybe someone else
already has.  well, for my sake, i'm just going to say that i am not sure
that those chords are right.  so, if anyone has the right chords, i would be
more than happy to be wrong.  i just can't stand listening to a song and not
being able to play it too.
ok, well, enjoy.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
"majoring in religion, listening to t.v. evangelists interpret the scriptures
and dictate my offerings- i found my god in myself, around myself- in
every moment and piece of matter.  everything is animate."   a. ray

"don't critisize what you can't understand."  b.dylan
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

                                                   -kate

                                                   grnpeace@fullnet.com

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date:         tue, 5 aug 1997 13:31:38 -0400
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subject:      about the ppv

hey garian & list friends!

the ppv will be offered as a vhs buy-for-home video by christmas, or so
others have said <smile>...

@=d take care, jen

~~~activism~~~equality~~~~peace~~~~
jenny korn
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from:    garian arleta vigil <vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu>
subject: june 6 great woods radio simulcast?

am i remembering this right?  did some people mention that there was a
radio simulcast of the ppv'ed great woods show?  if someone taped this,
i'd really like to have a copy.
-garian

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subject:      repost: want a lilith fair tape or cd?

*if you have already contacted me, you do not need to email me again*
*i am reposting this last time in case anyone missed it...this will be
the last time to post this, so i apologize for the repeat...you must
respond to me if you haven't already asap cuz the montreal lilith fair is
just a stone's throw away - smile!*

sent:   tuesday, july 29, 1997 12:35 pm

hey y'all!

        there is a lilith fair compilation cd available at the lilith
fair from the nine west booth...its proceeds go towards fighting breast
cancer...it's also only $10...i bought one and have enjoyed it (and am
keeping mine - smile)...there's a song on there from just about every
performer involved with lf...the indigo girls contribution was "shame on
you," the album version, nothing acoustic or new or anything...the same
is true of the others i believe...tracy chapman's song was from her
record "new beginnings," as was jewel's, sheryl crow's, paula cole's,
fiona apple's, sarah's, etc...

        so what's the deal?...i'm heading towards the montreal lilith
fair and am happy to pick up this cd for those of y'all who want one...if
you want one, just email me back and i'll give you the sase + the $10 you
need to send for the cd info....oh yeah, i don't know how the lf in
montreal is going to handle money...i obviously will have us money and
hopefully it won't present a problem...all in all, i like the cd...nice
sampler of all the artists, plus great cause!....

        i also have two extra lilith fair tapes tha are free to whomever
wants it...just email me...if i get more than 1 person who wants this,
i'll grab extras for the others at the next lilih fair...the tape
features all the second stage performers...

        take care, @=d jen

ps i may have one ticket to sell (for face value) for the montreal lilith
fair (which includes the indigo girls, jewel, lisa loeb, and sarah)...let
me know if you'd be interested in that too...

~~~activism~~~equality~~~~peace~~~~
jenny korn
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at 10:22 pm 8/4/97 -0500, jo and gary harney wrote:
>indigo girls promo video - 1997  $25

speaking of which, has anyone who sent  ms cathy a zavislak
<zmft36a@prodigy.com> a tape for this gotten theirs back?  i'm wondering if
i need to look for other sources.  anyone else out there willing to dub
theirs for me?  i didn't even bother to look for them when they came out,
because cathy had already offered to dub hers; i figured i'd leave it for
people who didn't have any alternatives.

also, wanted to let you know that cdnow <http://www.cdnow.com> has the new
michelle malone cd ("beneath the devil moon") in stock.  i got mine in just
a few days.

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at 09:15 pm 8/4/97 -0400, xg1rl@aol.com wrote:
>   i'm very curious, who is this woman?  i've seen a couple posts about her
>playing shows, but have never heard her....what's she like?

she's excellent... look at http://www.hidwater.com/wendy/wbhome.html for a
good description (including an amy quote), some reviews, and some sound
clips.  contact lorene machado <lorene@flylive.com> to buy wendy's new cd,
"asleep in the swing."  rainy day records (1-800-636-6166) probably has
that and the old ones too.

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at 09:20 pm 8/4/97 -0500, lisa m. schreihart wrote:
>why do we hurdle ourselves through
>every inch of time and space?

because everyone else does, and we need to do the same to keep up.  so
y'all just slow down... quit working those 60-hour work weeks so that those
of us who refuse to don't have to see our careers suffer for actually
having a life! :)

i love that lyric, and not just because it precedes that slurred/mumbled
amy line that i really like for some reason!

=-=-=-=

at 09:52 am 8/5/97 mdt, elizabeth nitz wrote:
>heya, i received a photo copy of the 7/18 red rocks set list
>in the mail yesterday from the girl who got the original.  i
>thought i'd post it, it's pretty funny.  i think this is what
>the girls were working on (and laughing about) during the
>opening act.

actually, they said during the show that the crew had done that to their
set lists... they were playing jokes on them all night, because it was the
last show of the tour!

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subject:      re: about the ppv (2)

hey y'all!...i just wanted to make sure that the following couldn't be
interpreted negatively...i have read from 2 posts on this list and one
post on the ig newsgroup that the video would be made available by this
christmas for home-purchase...i don't know if it'd be different in any
way from what is recorded...

on tue, 5 aug 1997 13:31:38 -0400 kshucks writes:
>hey garian & list friends!
>
>the ppv will be offered as a vhs buy-for-home video by christmas, or
>so others have said <smile>...
>
>@=d take care, jen
>
>~~~activism~~~equality~~~~peace~~~~
>jenny korn
>__kshucks@juno.com__
>thailand~alabama~boston
>#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*
>
>--garian wrote--
>date:    mon, 4 aug 1997 19:36:52 -0600
>from:    garian arleta vigil <vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu>
>subject: june 6 great woods radio simulcast?
>
>am i remembering this right?  did some people mention that there was
>a
>radio simulcast of the ppv'ed great woods show?  if someone taped
>this,
>i'd really like to have a copy.
>-garian

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does anyone have any idea as to when tix will go on sale for the sept 27
date at coral sky ampitheatre or how much they will cost?  i have to go to
this show, not only will it be my first but it falls on my birthday as
well, so any help is mucho appreciated!

faerie kisses to all,
heather

mark:feel like going insane?
got a fire in your brain?
and you're thinking of drinking gasoline?
joanne:  as a matter of fact...
mark: honey, i know this act
it's called the "tango: maureen"
the tango maureen
it's a dark dizzy merry-go-round
as she keeps you dangling

rent
"tango:maureen"
jonathan larson


collins:  in honor of the death of bohemia
an impromptu salon will commence immediately
following dinner... mimi marquez, clad only in
bubble wrap, will perform her famous lawn
chair-handcuff dance to the sounds of iced tea
being stirred.
roger: mark cohen will preview his new documentary
about his inability to hold an erection on high holy days.
mark: maureen johnson, back from her spectacular
one-night engagement at the eleventh street lot, will sing
native american tribal chants backwards through her
vocoder, while accompanying herself on the electric cello -
which she has never studied.

rent
"la vie boheme"
jonathan larson

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subject:      bates!!!!!bates!!!!!
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the whole idea they are playing a block away from my folks house, at a place
i have snuck into all the time in high school and walked into a soundcheck
the last time they played there in 92.
  of course, i hope to have press passes...

so does this mean they will play my alma mater, lewiston high school, as
well????

(**mike is so happy right now it is unreal, just ask mike paluzzi how i was
when he told me**)


the only show in new england, a block from my parents house -- let's
definitely plan a party....

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when i said i snuck into shows, it was often once the shows had started, or
i was friends with the promoters (who incidentially still go to school with
me in orono...) so it was not like i was a complete violent jerk or
anything, i would never do it for ig, but i *so* enjoyed the soundcheck i
heard there years ago...fugitive four months before it was publically
played....

umm...maybe god is rewarding me for selling my gw ig tixs and giving my lf
tixs away -- anyone got a copy of ppv to trade..still have not seen it...


mike r.

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hi, all!

i've been out of touch for the last three months, ever since sots came out.
i've seen a couple of folks at the berkeley greek shows (hi, cathy and shila!)
but i haven't even read the list digests since early may.  i think i've
got a couple of trades still unresolved, so if you've been expecting anything
from me, email me and let me know!  hopefully, i'll get back to reading the
list soon.  let's see, i didn't get the new job, i have a new so, complete
with two kids, and a brand-new five-week-old kitten named digger!

take care,
tom

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subject:      nigc - ani and bob at tanglewood

annie defazio rawks!!  nuff said.

oh yeah.  that guy bob somethingorother did a pretty good version of
tangled up in blue.  he sure did mumble a lot though.   ;p


tuesday's child

charter member -- yknib ssim fan club

"try to be less flammable" - ani to the dancers in the tanglewood
audience in reference to observing fire code safety regulations.

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greetings, all :)

just wondering what info anyone can give me on what's for sale at the lf-
i'm going tomorrow for the nashville concert and want to be prepared
financially for the good stuff! any suggestions on new artists to check
out? this will be the 6th time i've seen a&e (a mere fledgling compared to
most of you) but it's been a couple of years so i'm psyched! also- anyone
going to tomorrow's show?

********************************************
kiezha smith, ex. 1237
school of theology
the university of the south
'"oh, bother," said pooh.'

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hello all,
i don't know if anybody has posted this yet so i thought i would just in
case.  the rosie show with the ig's will be shown again on wed. aug. 6
so if you missed it the first time, like i did, here is your chance to
see it.

feel free to share as much as you want to, mark

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subject:      mary black (sigc) (actually teensie-weensie igc!)

hi list!

yesterday, in conjunction with lf, borders in dallas presented mary black,
signing her current cd, shine, and performing for about thirty minutes. (ig
connection - jerry marotta is the drummer on shine -- ok, ok i told you it
was teensie-weensie!!!) anyhoo, i just had to share her with you guys, if you
don't already know her work.  she's an irish singer with a voice that brings
tears to my eyes it's so beautiful.  yes, i actually sat at borders in the
middle of the day and wept, especially when she took my request and did dream
of columbus, a beautiful song of longing and wanderlust.  her sound is much
mellower than ig, but soooo gorgeous.  and she was incredibly gracious.  she
met everyone who wanted their disc signed with a handshake and several
minutes of conversation.  it was great!!  if you don't know her at all, give
her a listen.  on many of her songs, she's backed by pat crowley on the
accordion (no kidding!) and it sounds fabulous.  some celtic influence as
well.

thanks for listening.  i know this is off-topic, but it was such a lovely
experience, i just had to share...

pam
++++++++++++++++++++++++
we're standing at opposite poles
equal partners in a mystery.  es
++++++++++++++++++++++++

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the concert dates i posted earlier are for the partridge family reunion
tour. seeing as this is the ig list, i just want to make that clear.

deb (yes, i am joking!)

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where'd you find these dates? i'd love to see the complete list (i missed
the first posting)

kelly

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hey y'all! just called a friend of mine in jax and got some info on the
sept. 25th show. tickets go on sale on august 15th. you may want to get
your tickets as early as possible because the florida theatre is not a
very large venue, and i expect it will probably sell out quickly. the
number for ticket info is 904-353-3309. y'all can all crash my place
before the show if you like. it's right over the bridge and about 10
minutes from the florida theatre :)


jendy

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>she's an irish singer with a voice that brings
>tears to my eyes it's so beautiful.  yes, i actually sat at borders in the
>middle of the day and wept, especially when she took my request and did
dream
>of columbus, a beautiful song of longing and wanderlust.  her sound is
much
>mellower than ig, but soooo gorgeous.

i'll back you up on this pam. she is wonderful and you writing about her
has made me realise how long it's been since i listened to her. i only have
*the collection* but i love it. dream of columbus is beautiful. i can hear
her voice in my head now. i have to go home and listen to her this
afternoon. thanks for the reminder!

helen

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subject:      re: east coast dates

hi!

can someone please let me know where they found all the east coast tour info
on the web?  i'm planning on going to several of these, and would like to
find out more info!

i checked out ticketmaster, and the sony site, but had no luck there.

thanks!!!!!!!!!
=)
lisa
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subject:      tape loop 4 nigc

will whoever has my tape on tape loop 4 please send it back to me???

obviously this loop has gone the way of all old and decrepit loops.  to bad i
never got any more than one tape!

whoever has my tape, please email me and i'll give you the address to send
the tape back to me at.

thanks!

~~tigger

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does anyone know how they are selling the tickets for those east coast
shows?  i'm interested in the show at valdosta, but i don't know if it's
going to be through ticketmaster or the school.  i'm also trying to find
out when they will be on sale.  thanks for the help.
david
p.s.  is the song cold as ice from the ep good, as well as the rest of
the stuff on it?  anyone heard it?

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subject:      re mary black (nigc)

ooh!  pam gushed on and on about mary black at the borders signing
thing...

i play in a band that does irish music, and mary black is one of
our idols!  we've also been known to sneak in an indigo song or
two when we play (hey, the hothouse flowers played on closer to fine
and they're from ireland).  anyway, i saw her in seattle a couple
of years ago and ended up getting to go backstage and meet her.
she was so gracious!  she's got a great voice!  she's updated
her sound in the last few years--her earlier stuff is more
traditional sounding.  and nobody sings "anachie gordon" like
mary black. if you like irish music, go buy some mary black
for your collection.  or!  go buy a collection called "a
woman's heart"--mary black is on there along with her sister
frances black.  there are also performances from dolores
keane, ellen mcevoy, maura o'connell--oh, go buy it!  you'll
love it.

i'm done now.

ann

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subject:      no word on cathy's vdo tape

hi kind friends & friendly elisters!

        i too sent in a vdo tape to ms. cathy zavislak over 2 months ago
and have not received it...she has emailed me twice, the latest being a
couple of weeks ago saying that she'd be sending my vdo tape back within
the next few days...unfortunately, i gave her my copy of the ppv tape so
that she could copy it for herself (she didn't have it) and so that i
could keep all my ig clips on the same tape...i have been unsuccessful in
reaching her...i have emailed her, and have tried calling information to
get her phone number, but her phone is unlisted and is the only one as
zavislak in clinton township, michigan...if anyone knows cathy, or if
cathy herself is out there, *please* contact me...i would greatly
appreciate my tape back...i understand that it's taking a long time, and
i do not want to be a bother any longer to you, so please send my tape
back...perhaps i will be able to get your clips later when it's not so
busy...i hope that you were able to dub the ppv off my tape...good luck
to you...thank you...@=d jen

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from:    deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
subject: ig promo video, mm cd

speaking of which, has anyone who sent  ms cathy a zavislak
<zmft36a@prodigy.com> a tape for this gotten theirs back?  i'm wondering
if
i need to look for other sources.  anyone else out there willing to dub
theirs for me?  i didn't even bother to look for them when they came out,
because cathy had already offered to dub hers; i figured i'd leave it for
people who didn't have any alternatives.

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hi folks,
a friend of mine is flying in for the lilith show in columbus and i have to
get her a seat.  anyone have one extra they wanna sell? email me privately
if so.
thanks!!
lisa


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seriously, it's only life afterall." --emily saliers

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subject:      nigc: mm lyrics

hey all,
just wanted to say thanks to everyone who responded to my plea for lyrics.
the consensus seems to be that there really aren't any & that this is because
michelle likes to leave it up to the listener to hear what they want to hear.
i like this idea, but think i am going to do some transcribing too...

also-- does anyone know if the drag the river album is available anywhere??

thanks,
alexandra

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subject:      rosie (igc)

hello everyone :-)
i'm planning on taping rosie tomorrow, and i'm wondering if anyone would want
to trade this for a boot(s).  i have no idea what the "procedure" is on this,
or what the equivalent of the rosie appearance on a video tape would be, so
if anyone is interested, email me.
also--i remember visiting a website where there were a bunch of amy's
chickenman soc's, and i can't find it anymore.  i think it was called
indizone, but i did a search on that and found some cd company called
indizone, nothing else.  does any other site have some of these typed out?
thanks,
~jen

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subject:      bc lf lineup?

does any one know the full lineup for the vancouver bc lilith fair.
ticketmaster only knows about ig, s mcl, and shawn colvin.  i'm trying to
convince my brother to go and he wants to know if its worth it (as if the
indigo girls weren't enough!). -anne

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subject:      ani and bob

in a message dated 8/5/97 10:57:51 pm, you wrote:

<<subject: nigc - ani and bob at tanglewood

annie defazio rawks!!  nuff said.

oh yeah.  that guy bob somethingorother did a pretty good version of
tangled up in blue.  he sure did mumble a lot though.   ;p


tuesday's child>>

i am desperately looking for tickets to this show...if anyone has *any*
tickets - two or three seats anywhere (hell, they don't even need to be
seats) please let me know.  thanks.
-julie

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subject:      the last from me on whoo-hoos, talking, & booting

susan b. marine wrote:

> if you are not booting, don't expect people to stop woo-hooing. just
because we
> think amy and emily walk on water and would like a pure, unadulterated
concert
> experience free of comments like "amy is wearing a shit load of makeup"
and
> "which one is emily?"...not everyone is as diehard as us. wishing they
are is a
> pipedream... a big crack pipedream.
>

drew vogel wrote:

>here's the thing -- the people around you are part of the concert
>experience, hooting, hollering, dancing, etc. if you wanted just to hear
>a&e and nothing else, listen to the cd. when you go to a concert, it's
to
>see & hear live music, sure, but there is also the component of being in
a
>mass of like-minded people, with all their little ...peculiarities.

lisa comes back:

i'm talking about excessiveness here.  i **love** the live ig concert
experience and all the yelling and happy whooo-hooooos that go on.  i
do it myself.  but i'm talking about the whoooooo-hooooooo-hooooooo,
whooooooo-hoooooo-hooooooos, the kinda shit that is really obnoxious
and would also be to the person doing it if they could only hear how
obnoxious
they sound to everyone else.   during songs, it can get to be a bit too
much.
how can some people enjoy the songs if they're louder than what they're
hearing?
i know when i'm talking, i can't listen as well.  who can?

oh, yeah, speaking of talking......
so drew, you condone talking about whatnot to your friends at normal
speaking volume
in the middle of leeds or another quieter song?  i'm not saying you do,
but......
i think that is rude to the artist, ig in this case, as well as to fellow
concertgoers.   i would
rather not sit around these "like-minded people., with all their little
...peculiarities".
i know i have no choice sometimes, and i'm ready and willing to deal with
it,
but i'm also fortunate to be able to discuss it with y'all, anyway, even
if nothing comes
of it but a lot of "i agrees" and a few "go listen to your cds."

i'm sure with all the other happy crowd noise going on, a&e don't notice
talking fans as much, but consider opening acts......when ulali, mm,
etc. open for ig, i feel kinda bad about the lack of attention they get.
don't tell me
they don't notice this lack of attention and see everyone yaking to each
other instead
of listening.  critics even notice it.  so, i guess talking with respect
to booting
is a very small part of the picture.  talking when most other people,
including the
artist, want you to shut up or go home and listen to your cds, is more of
an issue.  i'm sure
you can whoooo-hooooo just as loud to your cds as you can in some
poor concert-goers ear or recorder; and you can carry on a conversation
as loud
as you want.  (hey, it goes both ways.)  so you can save it for the
homestead, unless
of course you just have to go to the concert and can in no way enjoy the
experience
without being a totally obnoxious ass.  (i'm speaking in general terms
here, so
i'm not calling anyone specifically an ass, especially most of you
listees.  so,
don't flame me for that.)

so, you see, excessiveness is, generally,...shit.  i'm no
let's-just-sit-in-our-seats-and-
listen-like-good-gentle-controlled-fans prude.  rock the house!!! is what
i say!
but be polite and considerate too.

heck, this was all just commentary.  it won't change anything.  it was
just on my
mind after hearing the boot that was rather f**ked up due to excessive
crowd talking.
whether or not the people around the booter knew to be a bit more quiet,
they
seemed not to have as much respect for a&e and the concert going on
before them,
as they should have.  and, you know, i think i heard my voice in there a
couple of
times, so at least i can learn from this experience too.

ready.....get set.......f l a m e!!!!!!  (well, i hope not.  i'm not
gonna say another word on this subject.  so don't anyone start flaming.
it's much
easier to ignore a flame than to respond to it, don't ya know?
shoot....why did
i even write this????)

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subject:      the hurtle thread

hey people!!!
this appreciating the moment thing made me think of a passage i once read.
it goes like this...

if i had my life to live over
nadine stair

i'd dare to make more mistakes next time.  i'd relax, i would limber up.  i
would be sillier than i have been this trip.  i would take fewer things
seriously.  i would take more chances.  i would climb more mountains and swim
more rivers.  i would eat more ice cream and less beans.  i would perhaps
have more actual troubles, but i'd have fewer imaginary ones.
you see, i'm one of those people who live sensibly and sanely hour after
hour, day after day.  oh, i've had my moments, and if i had it to do over
again, i'd have more of them.  in fact, i'd try to have nothing else.  just
moments, one after another, instead of living so many years ahead of each
day.  i've been one of those persons who never goes anywhere without a
thermometer, a hot water bottle, a raincoat and a parachute.  if i had to do
it again, i would travel lighter than i have.
if i had my life to live over, i would start barefoot earlier in the spring
and stay that way later in the fall.  i would go to more dances (or ig shows
<grin>).  i would ride more merry-go-rounds. i would pick more daisies.
(reprinted without permission)

that's it.
i have a friend who says that life is just a series of experiences.  i find
as i get older (i'm 27, almost 28) that that's absolutely true.  the trick is
to learn your lessons from each and every one, no matter how ecstatic or
horrific.  maya angelou says that the way to really show you understand the
true value of every situation is to simply say "thank you" when life seems
it's absolute toughest.  "thank you" for the experience.  "thank you" for
that moment.  that shows your gratitude for just being around.  i believe
everything happens for a reason - once you realize that, you understand that
"hurtling" through life is a worthless journey.

i guess we can all skip church on sunday :)
time to go pick some daisies...
thanks for listening.

cheri

"eyes like yours should carry a smile, haven't seen them sparkle for a while,
give it one more try, dry your eyes..." - es

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some of these are hilarious.. hope you enjoy them too! j.


>      from an air france bulletin, dated december 1, 1989.
>
>in a tokyo hotel:
>     "is forbidden to steal hotel towels please.  if you are not a
>     person to do such thing is please not to read notis."

>in a bucharest hotel lobby:
>     "the lift is being fixed for the next day.  during that time
>     we regret that you will be unbearable."

>in a leipzig elevator:
>     "do not enter the lift backwards, and only when lit up."

>in a belgrade hotel elevator:
>     "to more the cabin, push button for wishing floor.  if the
>     cabin should enter more persons, each one should press a
>     number of wishing floor.  driving is then going alphabetically
>     by national order."

>in a paris hotel elevator:
>     "please leave your values at the front desk."

>in a hotel in athens:
>     "visitors are expected to complain at the office between the
>     hours of 9 and 11 a.m. daily."

>in a yugoslavian hotel:
>     "the flattening of underwear with pleasure is the fob of the
>     chambermaid."

>in a japanese hotel:
>     "you are invited to take advantage of the chambermaid."

>in the lobby of a moscow hotel across from a russian orthodox
>monastery:
>     "you are welcome to visit the cemetery where famous russian
>     and soviet composers, artists, and writers are buried daily
>     except thursday."

>in an austrian hotel catering to skiers:
>     "not to perambulate the corridors in the hours of repose in
>     the boots of ascension."

>on the menu of a swiss restaurant:
>     "our wines leave you nothing to hope for."

>on the menu of a polish hotel:
>     "salad a firm's own make; limpid red beet soup with cheesy
>     dumplings in the form of a finger; roasted duck let loose;
>     beef rashers beaten up in the country people's fashion."

>outside a hong kong tailor shop:
>     "ladies may have a fit upstairs."

>in a bangkok dry cleaner's:
>     "drop your trousers here for best results."

>outside a paris dress shop:
>     "dresses for street walking."

>in a rhodes tailor shop:
>     "order your summers suit.  because is big rush we will execute
>     customers in strict rotation."

>similarly, from the soviet weekly:
>     "there will be a moscow exhibition of arts by 15,000 soviet
>     republic painters and sculptors.  these were executed over the
>     past two years."

>a sign posted in germany's black forest:
>     "it is strictly forbidden on our black forest camping site
>     that people of different sex, for instance, men and women,
>     live together in one tent unless they are married with each
>     other for that purpose."

>in a zurich hotel:
>     "because of the impropriety of entertaining guests of the
>     opposite sex in the bedroom, it is suggested that the lobby be
>     used for this purpose."

>in and advertisement by a hong kong dentist:
>     "teeth extracted by the latest methodists."

>in a rome laundry:
>     "ladies, leave your clothes here and spend the afternoon
>     having a good time."

>in a czechoslovakian tourist agency:
>     "take one of our horse-driven city tours - we guarantee no
>     miscarriages."

>advertisement for donkey rides in thailand:
>     "would you like to ride on your own ass?"

>in a bangkok temple:
>     "it is forbidden to enter a woman even a foreigner if dressed
>     as a man."

>in a tokyo bar:
>     "special cocktails for the ladies with nuts."

>in a copenhagen airline ticket office:
>     "we take your bags and send them in all directions."

>on the door of a moscow hotel room:
>     "if this is your first visit to the ussr, you are welcome to
>     it."

>in a norwegian cocktail lounge:
>     "ladies are requested not to have children in the bar."

>in a budapest zoo:
>     "please do not feed the animals.  if you have any suitable
>     food, give it to the guard on duty."

>in the office of a roman doctor:
>     "specialist in women and other diseases."

>in an acapulco hotel:
>     "the manager has personally passed all the water served here."

>in a tokyo shop:
>     "our nylons cost more than common, but you'll find they are
>     best in the long run."

>>from a japanese information booklet about using a hotel air
>conditioner:
>     "cooles and heates:  if you want just condition of warm in
>     your room, please control yourself."

>>from a brochure of a car rental firm in tokyo:
>     "when passenger of foot heave in sight, tootle the horn.
>     trumpet him melodiously at first, but if he still obstacles
>     your passage then tootle him with vigor."

>two signs from a majorcan shop entrance:
>     "- english well talking."
>     "- here speeching american."
>

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from:         hunterj1@aol.com
subject:      re: cathy zavislak and other mysteries (wheaton)

don't want to register this post as a "me too" but *darn*, i have asked ms
zavislak to return my tape using the postage i also provided her whether or
not she had recorded anything on it....and still no tape.  i think this
person offered to do this project and then found out she was unable to
deliver...like whoever is using my blank audio tape as a coaster instead of
putting the wheaton show on it =)

jude :)

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subject:      ig on rosie & the view

go to http://www.tvguide.com [i think that's the right website, it's the
one given to the list by another kind post] to get the exact time &
channel for these programs....that's how i got this info...

upcoming airdates for this episode of the rosie o'donnell show :

    wed, aug 6, 10:00am, wcvb [abc]**in cambridge/boston

    the rosie o'donnell show @repeat_tag@
    scheduled: alec baldwin, luke perry and **indigo girls**.

    60 min (cc)@bracket_text@
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upcoming airdates for this episode of the view :

    wed, aug 13, 11:00am, wmur **in massachusetts?
    thu, aug 14, 02:05am, wcvb [abc] **in cambridge/boston
note: that's 2 **am** for us in the boston area, y'all!!!!...ugh...

    the view @repeat_tag@
    60 min (cc) @bracket_text@
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~~~activism~~~equality~~~~peace~~~~
jenny korn
__kshucks@juno.com__
thailand~alabama~boston
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subject:      nigc: trading advice

ok .... here's my advice to anyone in the trading world ...

for the newbies - if you are just starting your collection, try and get tapes
from someone ya know on the list - someone who posts often or whatnot - and
looks like they have a grip on life ...

for the regulars, i'm always wary of people i've never seen before ... i
usually can find most of what i want on some of the regulars lists - jude,
andi, sunny, carolyn, etc ... and i trade with them ...

but alot of the people on the list are now booting - seeing as how you can't
always guarantee that 5 people are boot a particular show ... i'm still
waiting to see if anyone has the mann or the meadows shows .. and kicking
myself for not trying to boot 'em ...

so there are some newbies showing up with boots and i guess ya just kinda
gotta go for it ... and hope that they are what they say they are ....

but ya never know who's lurking out there ...

we've all been burned - i've lost video tapes and quite a few audios - from
people making promises ....

that's all for now - anyone else care to add to this ????

chris

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>============================================================================
>subject:   velvel recording artist michelle malone will tour the west coast
>          to support her new album entitled beneath
>source:   business wire via fulfillment by individual, inc.
>date:     august 5, 1997
>index:    [1]
>order no: 483853#
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>
>  new york--(entertainment wire) via individual inc. -- velvel recording
>artist michelle malone will tour the west coast to support her new  album
>entitled beneath the devil moon.
>
>  "can it be that malone's time for widespread success has finally  arrived?
>asks billboard.  "an excellent driving song, 'grace,' the  single, is just
>one of 11 slammin' songs on the artist's must hear  new album."
>
>  "a consumate performer," proclaims the album network.  "michelle  malone
>has...proven once again what a gifted singer/songwriter she  is with her new
>album," surmises the marietta daily journal.
>
>  malone has recently appeared on lilith fair dates as well as  opening
>slots for the indigo girls and patti smith.  the artist is  available for
>interviews.
>
>  the new west coast dates are as follows:
>
>  tue., aug. 19  lunapark/los angeles wed., aug. 20  toe's tavern/santa
>barbara, calif. fri., aug. 22  morgan's coffee & tea/monterey, calif. sat.,
>aug. 23  noe valley ministry/san francisco sun., aug. 24  villa montalvo
>center/saratoga, calif. (w/ neville bros.) tue., aug. 25  key
>largo/portland, ore. wed., aug. 27  tractor tavern/seattle thu., aug. 28
>bogie's/boise, idaho
>
>  contact: velvel records, new york | laura hynes, 212/353-8800, ext. 125
>
>[08-05-97 at 15:38 edt, business wire, file: b0805153.901]
>
>

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subject:      booting, whoo-hoooos, and lack of dialogue

i have to disagree on this one!  ig don't give live performances so they can
create a nice environment for people to make boots.  i go to their shows to
celebrate their music with people who feel the same way.  everyone expresses
their excitement and releases their energy in different ways "woooo-hoooo!".

i agree with your comment about leeds and kind friend.  "woohooing" is much
more obvious during the mellow tunes.

peace,
kathy

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subject:      re: new thread

here's an old saying that i think of when emily asks "why do we hurdle
ourselves through every time and space?"

if you have one foot on yesterday and one foot on tomorrow, you're just
pissing on today.

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hi all...i saw this on the ig newsgroup. although many of us have seen the
great woods performance, there's a promise of behind the scenes stuff so
maybe these shows will be worthwhile catching. unfortunately, i don't think
"on tour" is shown in all markets. as far as i know, it's not on in my area.
anyway, here's the info:

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subject: indigos on pbs' on tour
date: 5 aug 1997 01:45:27 gmt
from: d28if@aol.com (d 28if)
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fyi, i found this listing on the web of rockontv - it lists the upcoming
season of pbs' on tour music specials. indigo girls have a couple shows
they'll be included in - here's a some info. on the show and the two shows
the girls are on:

"on tour presents more than 60 pop music groups in season's second half

pop music sensation bush headlines the first of 13 new episodes of on
tour, a pbs series showcasing the concert performances of nearly 100 pop
music groups, premiering sept. 6 (check local listings). the series,
produced by sunshine t.v. in association with kcet/southern california,
was launched in june and airs on saturday nights.

the season's second half features more than 60 bands, representing some
of the best talent in pop, rock, alternative, blues, reggae and rap.<clip>
musical segments are interspersed with interviews and
behind-the-scenes footage.

on tour's first 13 episodes conclude with an all-star holiday special on
aug. 30 (episode 13), which also features bush, the cure, goo goo
dolls,meat loaf, devo, **indigo girls**, the smashing pumpkins and sting.

on tour is made possible by a grant from america online, which also
produced a web site for the program, accessible from aol keyword: pbs on
tour or through the internet at www.pbs.org/ontour/.

airs saturdays on pbs (check local listings)

program guide: aug. 30-nov. 29, 1997

episode 13 - holiday all-star special (aug. 30, 1997)

-bush (5/5: red rocks amphitheatre--denver, colo.) -the cure (8/9:
thomas mack center--las vegas, nev.) -goo goo dolls (5/5: red rocks
amphitheatre--denver, colo.) -meat loaf (5/13: deutschlandhalle--berlin,
germany) -devo (8/3: lollapalooza main stage, irvine meadows--irvine,
calif.) -the smashing pumpkins (5/15: the brixton academy--london
england) -sting (8/11: general motors place--vancouver, b.c., canada) -
**indigo girls (6/6/97: great woods amphitheater--boston, mass.)**


episode 23 - all-female show (nov. 8)

-joan osborne (5/29: hard rock hotel and casino--las vegas, nev.) -
**indigo girls (6/6/97: great woods amphitheater--boston, mass.)** -lush
(4/23: club masquerade--atlanta, georgia) -freda payne (8/8: mgm grand
hotel and casino--las vegas, nev.) "

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if you've ever been to an ig show where the music wasn't appreciated fully
(hard to imagine i know) -like a show i attended at an outdoor festival in
knoxville 4 years ago- then you know that all that carrying on is part of
the fun! i expect to hear the entire crowd singing along, and when they
don't..what a let down.

at the risk of reiterating the point, let the revelry exist :) why make it
anything less than the joyful celebration it ought to be? this seems to
coincide with the recent thread of lightening up and losing the
intensity...

peace, kiezha

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kiezha smith wrote:
>
> if you've ever been to an ig show where the music wasn't appreciated fully
> (hard to imagine i know) -like a show i attended at an outdoor festival in
> knoxville 4 years ago- then you know that all that carrying on is part of
> the fun! i expect to hear the entire crowd singing along, and when they
> don't..what a let down.
>
> at the risk of reiterating the point, let the revelry exist :) why make it
> anything less than the joyful celebration it ought to be?
i dont think this thread started off aimed at getting everyone to sit
quietly at ig concerts. its just that as you go to more ig concerts
lately the crowd is just loud and there is so much talking. no one is
suggesting that you dont clap, whistle, yell or whatever else it is you
want to do during the show, but show some consideration for those next
to you or behind you, wheter there taping the show or not.
and if you boot shows or not, id say 85% of this list has at least one
boot they love and its just annoying to hear people talking throughtout
the whole show!
and i too love it when the eniter crowd sings along to a song, even on
my bootlegs...its sounds great!!
all us bootleggers (and concert goers) are asking is that we all hold
our in show conversations to a minimum!!

peace,
lynda
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at 10:32 am 8/6/97 -0500, kiezha wrote:
>if you've ever been to an ig show where the music wasn't appreciated fully
>(hard to imagine i know) -like a show i attended at an outdoor festival in
>knoxville 4 years ago- then you know that all that carrying on is part of
>the fun! i expect to hear the entire crowd singing along, and when they
>don't..what a let down.
>
>at the risk of reiterating the point, let the revelry exist :) why make it
>anything less than the joyful celebration it ought to be? this seems to
>coincide with the recent thread of lightening up and losing the
>intensity...

i'm going to come to the defense of lisa here because i think her point is
getting lost. ig shows certainly are an experience. but there is a fine line
between a "joyful celebration" and downright rudeness. i have experienced
downright rudeness at many a show. woohooing is fine and dandy during the
sing along songs that we have come to know and love. as much as i would love
to hear ig do galileo, lc and ctf all by themselves, but i'm experienced
enough at shows to know that it just ain't going to happen. but but
woohooing and talking about how the new songs suck ar yelling "romeo and
juliet" during "hey kind friend" or other ballads is rude to those around
you and rude to the performers.

re-read what lisa is saying. she's not saying be a stick in the mud, she's
just saying respect those around you. if there's one thing that concerns me
about ig shows (actually society in general) it's that for many, manners and
respect are left in the parking lot.

deb

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hey kind munchkins,

i just called up borders again, and the time ig will be there has changed.
they will now show up at 5:00 instead of the 3:30 they scheduled for before
(still august 9th).  oh yeah, they're limiting one autograph per person.
this pretty much says that my butt won't be at borders that day <grrrrr>.
if anyone plans on going to borders and lilith that nite, i recommend taking
lsd (the drive, not the drug <g>) to i-94 to 57 to get your butt down to
tinley park faster.  if anyone needs exact directions, lemme know...will be
glad to help you out.

--sue (who's blue cuz this time change s-u-c-k-s)

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i would just like to say that i really appreciate the people who have
responded to me so far about sponsoring me for aids walk atlanta.  i am
pleased that folks are interested in helping out!  y'all rock!

thanks & many smiles :)))))))
amy

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subject:      re: wooohooooing, et al

i've seen this discussion at least a dozen times since joining this list
and it never seems to come to a happy conclusion.  however, if someone
close to the organization would talk to amy and emily to make the
concert experience better for everyone, we could fix this problem and
move on.

i would submit that concerts can have separate sitting, dancing, and
mixed sections.  additionally, if there was a dedicated taping section,
not only would the boots be of better sound quality, but they would be
taken from a tapers' section where no one is going to "woo-hoo."  it
would take some time to get the proportions right but a simple
questionnaire on a web page would be a great place to gather an initial
guess.

for all those anti-"woo-hoo-ers," i used to get sick and tired of the
cross-eyed wasted guy at dead shows shouting "jerrrrrrry!!!!." it was
especially irrating on bootlegs.  but now that the band is gone and i
look back on the concert as a combination of the crowd and the
performers, it kind of warms my heart when i hear the shouts on tape.
when the indigo girls are gone, i hope that i can remember their shows
as celebrations of the crowds and the band.  i see it as a  place where
people don't necessarily have to watch their every word and action; a
place to be one's self.  the bootleg with some "woo-hoos" may be all you
have to remember the people you met at shows and their enthusiasm for
the band.

no matter what pipe dream i may have about a cooperative crowd and a
venue set up for all tastes, i would hope we all could show a little
consideration for each other.  if you are the only sitter in a sea of
dancers, move.  if you are the lone dancer in a sea of sitters, move.
if conflicts like this keep up at shows and end up in an ugly scene, you
can be sure amy and emily aren't going to be inclined to tour much.

my 2 cents towards tolerance and cooperation. . .

peace-
ron

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> from: lynda [smtp:lynda@csg-soft.com]
> sent: wednesday, august 06, 1997 7:31 am
> to:   indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject:      re: wooohooooing, et al
>
> kiezha smith wrote:
> >
> > if you've ever been to an ig show where the music wasn't appreciated
> fully
> > (hard to imagine i know) -like a show i attended at an outdoor
> festival in
> > knoxville 4 years ago- then you know that all that carrying on is
> part of
> > the fun! i expect to hear the entire crowd singing along, and when
> they
> > don't..what a let down.
> >
> > at the risk of reiterating the point, let the revelry exist :) why
> make it
> > anything less than the joyful celebration it ought to be?
>  i dont think this thread started off aimed at getting everyone to sit
> quietly at ig concerts. its just that as you go to more ig concerts
> lately the crowd is just loud and there is so much talking. no one is
> suggesting that you dont clap, whistle, yell or whatever else it is
> you
> want to do during the show, but show some consideration for those next
> to you or behind you, wheter there taping the show or not.
> and if you boot shows or not, id say 85% of this list has at least one
> boot they love and its just annoying to hear people talking
> throughtout
> the whole show!
> and i too love it when the eniter crowd sings along to a song, even on
> my bootlegs...its sounds great!!
> all us bootleggers (and concert goers) are asking is that we all hold
> our in show conversations to a minimum!!
>
> peace,
> lynda
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yes, it is difficult to gauge how reliable a person is when you're
investing tapes/videos with them.  i guess when i trade, i realize that
i'm always taking chances on never getting them back...even from
"reliable" sources.  so i count my blessings, smell the flowers and
continue to boot/dub for others, knowing that while others may flake, we/i
can only do what's right..... it's alright.=)

ok, ciao!
seona
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  i always enjoy taping and trading discussions.  it is fun and informative
to swap stories re: getting equipment in, equipment setups, types of
equipment, etc.  please e me off the list for chats of this nature unless the
list is open to hearing discussions of this sort.

                                         carole

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in case anyone missed it the first time.....sorry to clutter up the list :)

marilyn

>since it hadn't been mentioned as yet, and lf is coming fast and furious!
>(only 2 1/2 more weeks!!)  i thought i'd throw down the gauntlet and see if
>anyone attending lf on friday, august 15th wants to meet before the show...
>
>ontario place has a ton of bars/restaurants...so i figured i'd chose one and
>see what happens ;)
>
>the spot will be breakers (which is directly south of the cinesphere), it
>has a great patio, decent food and beer! (sound familiar kadster??)
>
>if anyone is interested in doing this, please email me privately (no need to
>clutter the list with this stuff) and i'll try to arrange something.
>
>have a great day :))
>
>marilyn
>
a moment of peace is worth every war behind us... emily saliers

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at 10:22 am 8/6/97 -0500, deb reiser wrote:
>hi all...i saw this on the ig newsgroup. although many of us have seen the
>great woods performance, there's a promise of behind the scenes stuff so
>maybe these shows will be worthwhile catching. unfortunately, i don't think
>"on tour" is shown in all markets. as far as i know, it's not on in my area.

"on tour" and "sessions at west 54th st."
<http://www.sessionsatwest54th.com> are 2 excellent pbs music shows.  "on
tour " is supposed to showcase artists of interest to younger people (bush,
smashing pumpkins).  "sessions" is designed to draw an older crowd (k.d.
lang, wynton marsalis, richard thommpson, suzanne vega, shawn colvin, keb
mo').  (clearly their audiences overlap!)

i plan to thank my pbs affiliates for carrying them by sending in a
donation which specifically references those programs as the reason for the
donation.  please do the same if you have the ability and the inclination.
if your station isn't carrying them, write or call them and ask about it...
and tell them you'd be more inclined to contribute if they carried such
programs.

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ok, don't normally do this, but what the hey:

sundara!  where you been hiding grrrrrrl!  come out and show yourself!  i'm
coming up on the year anniversary of joining this list, and when i did, it
seemed every other post was from sundara, and lately, nothing!  you're
quiet as a mouse!  it's time for some words of wisdom from the president of
the sbmfc.....

ok, back to your regularly scheduled programming......
=================================
joni :o)
=================================
nasa was interviewing professionals to be sent to mars.  only one
could go, and he couldn't return to earth.  the first applicant,
an engineer, was asked how much he wanted to be paid for going.
"one million dollars," he answered, "because i want to donate it to
m.i.t."  the next applicant, a doctor, was asked the same question.  he asked
for two million dollars. "i want to give a million to my family,"  he
explained, "and leave the other million for the advancement of medical
research."  the last applicant was a lawyer.  when asked how much money he
wanted, he whispered in the interviewer's ear, "three million dollars."
"why so much more than the others?" the interviewer asked.  the lawyer
repled, "if you give me three million, i'll give you one million, i'll
keep one million, and we'll send the engineer."
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joni  :o)

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<<subject: nigc - ani and bob at tanglewood

annie defazio rawks!!  nuff said.

oh yeah.  that guy bob somethingorother did a pretty good version of
tangled up in blue.  he sure did mumble a lot though.   ;p


tuesday's child>>

i am desperately looking for tickets to this show...if anyone has *any*
tickets - two or three seats anywhere (hell, they don't even need to be
seats) please let me know.  thanks.
-julie

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can anyone help me settle a debate?  my cousin insists that michelle malone
was at the ig concert at the garden state arts center (pnc...whatever) show
(6/6?), i say she's confusing that with the ppv concert.  was anyone at this
show? do you remember if michelle was there?  i think i would remember very
clearly if she was.

btw...i saw michelle monday night at the count basie theater in red bank nj.

she is as amazing solo as she is with the girls.  she closed with wild
horses, it was great of course, but something seemed to be missing.  :-)

abby

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is anyone else as outraged as i am about the instore appearance on aug
9?  it takes place after lilith fair has started and is now limiting
each person to just one autograph...does that mean that you have to pick
whether you want amy or emily?!  don't get me wrong, i am grateful- but
why would rcm schedule them for that time?!  if anyone has more info. on
the topic about the confirmed times or reason of this craziness please
post!

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in a message dated 97-08-05 10:52:37 edt, you write:

<<  at great woods, sue and i
were treated to some *lovely * interpretive dance this really drunk woman
was
performing for us. it was a hoot. >>

go interprative dancing !!!!!!
yay !!!
woooo hoooooo !!!!!!!
what's an "emily" ?

bink
(someday people from all around the globe will clamour for
binky and kristal's modern expressive interpretation of
'down by the river' but forget it, it's sacred and we can only
do it when the moon is ...something ..... i forget.)
s

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in a message dated 97-08-06 11:29:52 edt, kathy writes:

<<  i go to their shows to
celebrate their music with people who feel the same way.  everyone expresses
their excitement and releases their energy in different ways "woooo-hoooo!".
  >>

did you ever hear the bumbershoot boot with the woman who screeched
continuously ...we're talkin'  outside the range of human vocal ability here
and
not in any rythmic fashion ?????
it was truly frightning.
i, of course never need to worry about anyone disturbing me, because
if they do i just smack them, shut's 'em right up.
but violence is not the answer ;)


snee !
mb

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hello all...

i have a sad tale to tell, and it's going to end with a plea.  i had in my
hands a copy of the disney special that the girls did a few years back, and
in the process of attempting to dub it for me, my friend erased it.  :(   i
was able to watch it before it was erased and i loved it.  is there anyone
out there who has this on video?  i can send a blank video w/ postage $, or
can offer a trade (i have boots to trade, or i can trade the pay per view
concert).

thanks everyone!

counting down the days (3!) to my first lilith concert...

cheryl
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hello east coast ig fans!!

i am making arrangements to go to some of the dates in my area, and would
love if some kind person has any information (like hotel info, etc.) on the
following locations, and could help me out:

boone
blacksburg
columbia
tampa

also, i called all of these venues for more info.  the boone and blacksburg
tickets don't go on sale until two weeks before the event, and columbia has
no idea *yet*.   these could change, according to the people i spoke with.
all of this is very new to them - in fact one of them told me that they just
signed the contract for the event yesterday.

and the tampa tickets go on sale this friday at 5:00 pm =)

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omigod! i just finished watching the re-broadcast of ig on rosie o!
could amy possibly look any cuter?!  i'm in love!

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hello all,

here i am, ready to do my duty...  this article comes from the "in
pittsburgh newsweekly."  on the cover of this paper are pictures of sarah
mclachlan (color), jewel (b&w), and *indigo girls* :) (b&w) in
that descending size order. the ig pic is the same one that was in
seventeen magazine, et al.  on the inside the same three pics are
repeated (all b&w this time), but all slightly bigger than on the
cover.

*note*: this article is *long* and includes all that you could ever want
to know about the current state of *lilith fair*, and  more!  there is
*minimal* ig content (their name is mentioned). there is however, a side
article which i have included *after the second line of asterisks* (about
14 pages down) which *does have some igc*  okey-dokey.  without further
adieu, reprinted without permission, including typos (and virtual lack of
capitalization) that are all mine, here it is:

*************************************************************************
it's really just about the music
the lilith fair, in pittsburgh tuesday, is the first national touring
festival with all women headliners.  but what makes it special has little
to do with gender.
by harriet l. schwartz

a funny thing happened on the way to the lilith fair.  founder sarah
mclachlan changed her tune.  at first waxing proud that she was creating a
summer festival with women headliners (in response to the male-dominated
and sometimes male-only lineups of lollapalooza and other fests),
mclachlan now sounds fed up with the focus on lilith's girl power.

mchlachlan and singer/songwriter paula cole were particularly vocal at a
press conference before lilith's july 17 show in akron, ohio.  ticked-off
that the media covering lilith still think women in rock is a phenonmenon
and contiue to talk trend instead of music, mclachlan and cole said that
while the audience "gets it," the press is making something out of nothing
by focusing on the female factor.

"i did two interviews for _time_ and hardly anything i said that had
anything to do with this tour got into that article," mclachlan
complained. she was referring to the magazine's july 21 cover story,
called "jewel and the gang" on the cover and "galapalooza!" inside. "it
became a big piece on 'women in music -- the phenomenon. girlapalooza.'
it's really sensationalistic and marginalizing," she said.

perhaps mclachlan didn't forsee the power of a name, but calling the show
"the lilith fair: a celebration of women in music" has certainly alerted
everyone to its female presence. asked about her goals for the fest,
mclachlan paints a broader picture: "i wanted to have a diverse selection
with the music, but at the same time have some kind of common thread that
will make it all work together. we're promoting positive energy and
awareness of social issues."

cole said the point of lilith is "unity, support, hope and a celebration
of music." mclachlan, who sounded almost apologetic for the spin put on
the festival she subtitled "a celebration of women in music," assured
reporters she would include men as headliners next year, "if they'll have
us."


depressed by the press

no doubt the press often looks beyond the music for its story. sometimes
this is sensationalistic journalism, and unfortunately in these cases, the
subtler essence of a story loses out to catchy  headlines and
ultra-provocative leads.

other times, though, the press is simply doing wat it loves to do--
tracking trends and delving into culture. when covering lollapalooza,
writers chronicle the mosh pits as much as the musicians, safety as well
as songs.  this leaves gifted artists like mclachlan and cole
frustrated.  they would rather talk about their gift--the music--than
field endless questions about gender.

this may simply be the price of life as a pioneer.

lilith is the first event of its kind, a nationanl touring festival
featuring all commercially-viable women headliners. and that, whether
mclachlan likes it or not, is newsworthy.

mclachlan seems to know this. she tells the story of how promoters warned
her against having cole open for her on earlier tours, fearing that two
women leading the bill would not draw a crowd. while women seem to have
conquered record sales and radio, the touring world and music video are
perhaps the last two segments of the pop music scene still dominated by
men.

the lilith fair's huge success so far this summer has dispelled myths that
women don't draw as well as men.  this will alter the view of concert
design and promotion in the future.

also noteworthy is the fact that the press easily tires of so-called
trends in its quest for something new. now mentioned in passing, if at
all, an artist's gay or lesbian identity takes a back seat to reviews of
his or her music.

if mclachlan were to limit lilith as a festival for women headliners, it's
likely the media would be over the gender thing by next year and focus
more on the music.


history and a reality check

ironically, lilith is neither the first women's music festival nor a
women-only show.  to mclachlan's credit, she never claimed either and said
from the start that she didn't want lilith to exclude men, but to
highlight women.

women have been holding definitively women-centered music festivals since
the '70s.  featuring more than just female headliners, these gatherings
are run completely by women, who handle everything from promoting the show
to hauling equipment. in fact, events like the _michigan womyn's music
festival_ don't even allow men through the front gates. michigan and other
similar women's festivals are built on strong feminist and sometimes
lesbian philosophies that seek not only to support women artists but to
create decidedly women-based festival communities.

the legacy lilith and michigan share is that both events emerged from a
frustration that women artists were not getting their share of the
spotlight. michigan and its sister shows frequently provide a stage for
everyone from pioneering singer/songwriter cris williamson to dyke punkers
tribe 8. whatever kind of guitar they strum, these artists are almost
exclusively outside mainstream music in terms of radio play and touring
opportunites. on the other hand, lilith's main stage features successful
mainstream artists. all five pittsburgh headliners have albums in
_billboard's_ top-200 album chart.

a look at the pittsburgh lineup, including --[b&w photo insert of shawn
colvin, sitting, with arms clasped around knees, in front of a car with
californa license plate cy 7731]-- mclachlan, sheryl crow, jewel, shawn
colvin and the indigo girls, certainly says this is going to be a girl's
night out. on the contrary, though, when it really got down to music time
at the akron show, men were present in full force. mclachlan, mary chapin
carpenter, fiona apple, paula cole and tracy bonham were practically the
only women on stage. mclachlan had one female backup singer and every
other backup musician was male.

but whether or not something called "the lilith fair: a celebration of
women in music" becomes diluted by having a main stage full of men isn't
the issue. it is a dumb concern because every artist should have the
back-up band she most desires regardless of gender--unless she decides to
make gender a relevant factor. the point is, in akron at least, the vibe
(as mclachlan has been struggling to say in recent weeks) was more about
music than gender.

the akron festival body count may prove mclachlan's point--why count
chromosomes instead of saying who played a good set? "the bottom line for
me has been that this is really about a feeling of community, it's about
music," said up-and-comer garrison starr, who played a short set on a
smaller stage early in the akron show. "it's not about 'oh, i see you have
a girl bass player,' or ' i see you have four guys in your band.' it's
really just about the music."

but more than anything else, lilith is about music, and that's what makes
it one of the hottest tickets this summmer. sure, some people attend
looking for what they expect will be a female-oriented concert scene, but
most go to the show because they dig one or more of the artists. this
means that in the end, lilith draws a diverse crowd. mclachlan and many
others on the bill have crossover appeal, winning fans of new rock as well
as more traditional singer/songwriter fare. women and men, kids seeing
their first show, young adults who will also line up for lollapalooza and
longtime fans of the veteran artists all find a place at mclachlan's
festival.

in a less obvious way, lilith is certainly a different concert scene than
most other festivals: it's mellow, friendly and socially-aware, with
mclachlan making a donation in each city to a women's or children's cause.
each show also includes a  sprinkling of social service agency booths
offering information on everything from safe sex to rape awareness.

--[insert of b&w pic of sheryl crow wailing into a mic and strummin' a
guitar...]--

the "f" word

why, then, has mclachlan gotten so defensive about the girl thing? why not
let the press give their little pseudo (and sometimes inaccurate) history
lessons, let the crowd groove on the music and know that next year, the
fair will be seen more as a musical event than as a piece of history?

perhaps mclachlan fears that all this girl talk will impact attendance,
that folks will shy away from a "women's event." well, the july 26
_billboard_ reports that lilith shows in washington state and oregon were
two of the top-10 grossing concerts the previous week. the fair's kick-off
in washington ranked first, grossing $814,475. both shows were sellouts.
interestingly, two other shows ranking in the top-10 were tina turner's
tour with opener cyndi lauper.

perhaps it is the "f" word.

feminist.

mclachlan says she named her show "lilith," a biblical reference to "the
world's first feminist," after adam's first wife, who refused to blindly
follow his lead and left him. yet mclachlan has clearly separated herself
from the more extreme elements of the feminist movement, declaring in
_elle_ magazine that she would forbid the most radical feminist groups
from distributing literature at her shows.

moreover, mclachlan has stated that this is not a feminist event.
contradictory though her motives may seem, mclachlan's sidestepping may
say more about the society she has grown up in than about her
self-perceptions.

mclachlan, 29, has seen a world wher many women have it better than their
mothers. expecting equal pay for equal work, for example, is a given, not
a political statement.  in 1997, one can hold what many would consider
feminist ideals and not define them as such.

further, except for the more politically-minded, at least some women in
mclachlan's generation shy away from the feminist label: the men in charge
have succeeded in making "feminist" a bad word.


challenges ahead

while this summer's lilith has been tremendously successful so far, with
outstanding musical performaces and enthusiastic crowds, next year's fair
will be a better barometer of its long-term staying power.

lilith's gender construct will likely be one of the least important
factors in its long-term success or failure. the age-diverse lineups of
this year's show could be one challenge. while some fans groove on the
opportunity to push their musical boundaries, others might not continue to
be drawn to a bill that only has one or two artists they know.  this
year's age range is actually one of the show's strengths. no doubt some
emmylou harris fans were impressed with the younger artists and vice
versa.

the question remains--can a festival built on the singer/songwriter
concept continue to fill the sheds? will yong fans drawn by the hip factor
of this year's lilith return next year, having experienced its more mellow
vibe--a change from the mosh-powered shows they usually attend? will those
fans who are drawn to the more laid-back acoustic scene come back for
seconds of the likes of tracy bonham nad fiona apple?

this is where the media's trend-shopping may continue to benefit mclachlan
and her show. the _time_ cover story stated that mclachlan and company
have revived th singer/songwriter genre--that more personal and emotional
music may be the dominant form of the late '90s. "coffeehouse pop," as
_time_ called it, or "coffeehouse rock," which more accurately describes
bonham and others with more of an edge, may be the musical trend that
lilith truly confirmed in the summer of '97.

*************************************************************************

side article

lilith's musical muscle

featuring chart-toppers and folk rockers, pittsburgh's lilith fair lineup
brings some of this summer's hottest musical acts to burgettstown's star
lake amphitheater.  the fair is a changing event, with its founder, sarah
mclachlan, the only artist to play all shows.

clearly there are other lineups more diverse than pittsburgh's--those
featuring emmylous harris or mary chapin carpenter performing with younger
artist like fiona apple and tracy bonham, for example. nonetheless,
pittsburgh's show puts the spotlight on folk rock in its most literal
form--thoughtful and sometimes provocative lyrics delivered with a bit of
rock 'n' roll brawn.

sarah mclachlan

doing triple duty this summer, lilith fair founder sarah mclachlan works
overtime as she attempts to satisfy the nearly endless media demand on
her time while also overseeing each day's lilith show and then performing
the closing set each night. if mclachlan needed a mid-summer boost, she
got it a few weeks ago when her third album, _surfacing_ (arista), debuted
at numer two on the _billboard_ chart. lead-single "building a mystery" is
catching on quickly for mclachlan, who enjoys equal favor among younger
and older listeners.

a native of nova scotia, mclachlan studied guitar and piano as a child. at
17, she played her first gig with a new wave band in halifax. soon after,
she was offered a recording contract, but her parents encouraged her to
fininsh high school instead. two years later, she got another offer and
this time took it, moving to vancouver. she recorded _touch_, which
eventually reached gold status in canada.

mclachlan's american breakthrough came with _fumbling towards ecstasy_,
which earned a grammy nomination and sold double platinum.

-----there are also "bio/reviews" on sheryl crow, jewel, and shawn colvin,
email me if you're interested-------

now, what you've been reading this far for:

indigo girls

known for the energy and sincerity of their live performance, the indigo
girls have finally broken out of their status as simply a great live duo
with a significant cult following. spring release _shaming of the sun_
(epic) has proved to be the indigo girls' first crossover success, with
lead single "shame on you" snagging airplay on adult and new rock stations
alike.

the indigo girls' last pittsburgh stop, a 1994 show at the palumbo center,
left an enthusiastic crowd wanting more. this will no doubt be the case
again as amy ray and emily saliers must play a short lilith set that
covers not only new tunes, but dips into their catalog of crowd favorites
withc include: "joking," "least complicated," "galileo," "closer to fine"
and "love's recovery."


-find myself becoming more immobile, when i think a little girl in the
world can't do anything -e.s.

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -a.r.

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sorry, nigc, but i thought this might be a great place to find compatible
people.  planning a move to boston sept. 10th and need a roommate.  if
you need a roomie or know someone cool who needs one, e-mail me privately
and we'll chat.  thanks!

jen

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>date:  wed, 6 aug 1997 18:30:32 -0400
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well, she was close, and i have to give her points for trying. ;~}

gesi

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subject:      anyone boot park city, utah show?

hey, i have a friend who would die to get a copy of this show!
did anyone get it?  i've got some good stuff to trade!
private email replies, ok?

thanks,

ann

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 4 aug 1997

it was like august 14, at roseland ballroom.

sari

<<
hi everyone.  i'm new here so i don't know if this was ever discussed but...
   last summer the girls did a tour to try out the new stuff and i saw it in
nyc at the roxy, i believe.  they were pretty strict but i was wondering if
anyone got a boot of it.
thanks,
carrie
the show was in august but i'm not sure of the date
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subject:      re: booting, whoo-hoooos, and lack of dialogue

i'm sure no one cares, but i agree with lisa.  yeah, you're there to make
noise and cheer the performer, but if there is somebody there with a
recorder, you should respect that.  after all, you might want a boot of that
concert someday!  and then you'll get it and the only thing you can hear is
yourself going wooooo hooooooooo and then there you'll be.

and after all, if you're hollering and screeching, then nobody can hear amy
when she goes off on one of her tangents in the middle of a song!!!!  can you
imagine missing one of those?  cuz i'd be ticked.

my 2 happy coppers,

peace, harmony, and indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism
  ~novitiate of suzanneglassism
   ~president, grlchasr26 fan club
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"and he said, you can't buy anything.  and i said well why not?
and he said, cause you're in my front yard!
boy did i feel as white as the snow!"
-amy ray
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at wolftrap this year, both the girls made a comment about dancing...its
on the boot, but hard to hear..something to the effect ."we don't mind
you dancing, but why don't you ask the people behind you if its
ok".."dance for a song or two then sit for one"..."or trade seats"
just my recollection
marilyn

i am a problem child- i've been wild all my days...(a.ray)

..still crazy after all these years.. (p. simon)

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hi list,

just picking at a loose thread... saw "ulee's gold" today and couldn't help
fantasizing about an ig cover of tupelo honey.  are you with me?

pam

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sorry-please ignore

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hi-

i've been outta town (and away from the list) for a few weeks, and i just saw
a post about ig at coral sky in west palm?  please, any more info would be
really appreciated...i'll check the ticketmaster site in the meanwhile...i'm
so psyched to hear this!

rose

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subject:      bootlegs?  anyone?

any nice person wanna help a poor girl who has nothing to trade get some
boots?  i would love y'all forever.  email me your boot list, and
instructions, since i have no idea what i'm doing.  sorry to waste bandwidth,
but i'm suffering from ig withdrawl.  i know you all understand, well, at
least, i hope you do. :-)
jen

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thanks, cheri!!!!!  that was great!

>date:    wed, 6 aug 1997 00:51:39 -0400
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>hey people!!!
>this appreciating the moment thing made me think of a passage i once
read.
>it goes like this...

>if i had my life to live over
>nadine stair  .......

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hey y'all,

i think anyone who's wondering about
cathy z. may want to take it a bit easy.  i
know for a fact that she's a great person.  she
went through a lot of crap to get a few of
us our pine knob tickets....called around
everywhere, day in and day out for weeks, kept us
up to date almost daily, with nothing
in the bargain for her but to meet our road-
tripping group when we got there.  and when
we did get there, she was even better to talk
to and to hang out with than she was on the phone
or e-mail.  i sent her something too, and haven't
gotten an acknowledgement to that or subsequent
e-mails.  this leads me to worry rather than to
question her integrity.  i trust her whole-heartedly.  give
her the benefit of the doubt until you know for sure
what's up.

lisa

cathy, please drop me a line if you read this.

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greetings one and all!

just got back from the nashville lilith fair (actually, we stopped to eat
at denny's after the show:), and i've got to say that it has been such
a wonderful, inspiring day.  michelle malone opened things up at 4:05 cdt
on the acoustic stage.  i can't remember everything she played (i wasn't
writing down her setlist), but she did sing blue suede and the edge from
the new cd, a couple of songs i hadn't heard, counting stars (which i
requested after she asked whether we wanted to hear an old song or a new
one:), and she closed with wild horses.  it was cool to watch the people
crowded around the acoustic stage area - not a soul was chatting, talking,
or really even making a sound - it's as if everyone was kind of under
michelle's spell.  everyone talked during the other acts that played on
the acoustic stage, btw.  fashion report:  she wore the blue superman shirt,
dark blue pants, and black work shoes(?).  i think she won over a lot of
new converts today!

lisa loeb was great.  emmylou harris' set totally rocked.  i was pleasantly
surprised with jewel.  i saw her in jan. 96 and was not impressed, but she
has so much fire in her performance now, and she played electric guitar
on a couple of new rockin' songs.

as someone mentioned following the north carolina shows, everyone here
was basically mellow until a&e took the stage at 9 p.m..  everyone was on their
feet singing throughout the girls' set.  a&e both looked great (especially
amy...*sigh*), though emily seemed a little more mellow.  amy was definitely
the more talkative one tonight, and talked about how they like to record
in nashville.  the set list:

shed your skin
shame on you
tried to be true
ghost (aahhhhhh!)
least complicated
scooter boys
galileo
the water is wide (w/emmylou harris and sarah mclachlan...chills went up my spine:)
closer to fine (w/sarah, emmylou, jewel, lisa loeb, michelle, and mary
black on vocals, jerry marotta on electric guitar)

now for the fashion report- amy looks like she might have lost a litle
weight.  she had on the diamond-pattern shirt that she's wearing on the
cover of tower's pulse magazine, indigo-blue levi's (i had binoculars and was
in the 6th row on em's side, so i could see;)  i couldn't see what
kind of shoes she was wearing.  emily was wearing a black shirt and blue
jeans.  i couldn't see if sara was wearing her red shoes ;)

the crowd was most excited about the girls - without
a doubt.  after them, i would say jewel probably had the next best
reception, then probably sarah, emmylou, and lisa loeb.  a&e really
seemed to be enjoying themselves and amy smiled a lot and was very chatty.
she didn't do a stream of consciousnes during scooter boys, but toward
the end, she did repeatedly whisper "i come from privilege," and then ended
the song.

it was so great to see everyone who came up for the show - old friends
and new friends alike:  tamara, allison, elizabeth, sue, sarah and stacey.
we all had a blast!  it was cool to witness what is no doubt history...er, i
mean herstory :-d

now i'm gonna try to get into bed and get some shut-eye before the rooster
crows...<ggg>

peace,

joan :-d

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hey y'all!

i've been desperately looking for the "watershed" video in pal but never
found it :(
does anyone know where i can get it (or even a copy of it)? i never saw any
of the ig videos, imagine that? you can leave me in ignorance, huh? ;)

thanks a lot and have a wonderful day all!

carrie

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subject:      re: nigc: trading advice
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i wonder if there's any precedent for mail fraud prosecution in such a
case... anyone know?  i understand that the penalties for mail fraud are
pretty stiff.

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date:         thu, 7 aug 1997 08:28:11 -0400
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at 05:13 pm 8/6/97 -0700, mark garber wrote:
>is anyone else as outraged as i am about the instore appearance on aug
>9?  it takes place after lilith fair has started

one possibility:  it could ensure that they get to meet and greet people
who aren't already fans.

>and is now limiting
>each person to just one autograph...does that mean that you have to pick
>whether you want amy or emily?!

generally that means that the artist(s) will autograph one item... you
shouldn't have to pick between them!

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date:         thu, 7 aug 1997 08:27:22 -0400
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at 10:31 am 8/6/97 -0400, lynda wrote:
>all us bootleggers (and concert goers) are asking is that we all hold
>our in show conversations to a minimum!!

i hope we can all agree on that, at least... if you want to have a
conversation, have it before the show, or after, but don't talk over the
music!  if you have comments to make during the show, lower your voice so
as not to disturb others.  you know... common courtesy!

=-=-=-=

at 10:50 am 8/6/97 -0500, deb reiser wrote:
> ig shows certainly are an experience. but there is a fine line
>between a "joyful celebration" and downright rudeness.

i'd argue that it's not so fine a line.  it's just that many people are too
selfish to recognize it.

>but
>woohooing and talking about how the new songs suck ar yelling "romeo and
>juliet" during "hey kind friend" or other ballads is rude to those around
>you and rude to the performers.

or, how about "emilyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy" or "amyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"...   i
just love people who see quiet songs as an opportunity to scream to the
girls, or to chat.

>re-read what lisa is saying. she's not saying be a stick in the mud, she's
>just saying respect those around you. if there's one thing that concerns me
>about ig shows (actually society in general) it's that for many, manners and
>respect are left in the parking lot.

well said.

=-=-=-=

finally, i don't think there's much to be said about singing along and
dancing, since the girls are constantly encouraging their audiences to do
both (just as they regularly thank them for being quiet during the quiet
songs).

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date:         thu, 7 aug 1997 09:41:02 -0400
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from:         j tigger kickliter <ndygotiggr@aol.com>
subject:      more igc in the atlanta mag with "that article"

dunno if this was already discussed.... if it was, sorry!

if you read the first page of the article "taco of the town" (page 41) it
says that this woman who owns this restaurant, lucero obregon, helped put the
menu together for the flying biscuit cafe.

there you have it!  :)

peace, harmony & indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism
  ~novitiate of suzanneglassism
   ~president, grlchasr26 fan club
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date:         thu, 7 aug 1997 09:34:37 est
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subject:      cin lilith fair

     i had seen posted a few weeks ago, a set list for tonight's cincinnati
     riverbend lilith fair.  could someone please post that again for me,
     namely the times michelle malone and ig will be on?

     thanks,
     bethany

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date:         thu, 7 aug 1997 10:00:15 -0400
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subject:      rob's home page update!
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              gigax@isaac.net, allendl@uncwil.edu, ealb1@aol.com,
              p-quito@plan.geis.com, sim@lanet.losandes.com.ar,
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              nc28401ent@aol.com, mailclown@aol.com, paugino@juno.com,
              paugino@moscom.com, bong@commline.com

hi all!
just a quick note to say that i have updated my homepage finally.  check it
out...there are alot of new links, and pictures up there.
i have added two new pages..one devoted to the lilith fair that just
passed...and one devoted to my trip to san francisco.  the sf page isn't
quite completed..so there is just a message there for now...i'll let ya know
when i have it all done.  i am struggling to find the time to do the
page...it is 2am right now!
ok, i'll let ya know...
until then..check it out regardless and let me know when you've seen it.
thanks alot everyone!
http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/robspage.htm
take care
rob

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date:         thu, 7 aug 1997 07:14:30 -0700
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subject:      nigc mm is coming to phoenix !!!!!!
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nita's hideaway

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tempe, arizona

(602) 967-9531

price is $3.00 at the door and the show starts at 9:30 pm , you can go =
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anyway, i hope to see some of the list members there and i'll post a =
review after the show.

jim gates
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today will pass
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ok, so the borders web site says they'll be signing copies of their new
album, sots, and now i hear it's limited to 1 autograph per person!? can
anyone who's been to one of ig's in-store appearances before or has inside
info on the borders situation tell me if that means 1) that the *only* thing
i can get signed as my one item is a copy of sots? (and furthermore, do i
have to buy *another* copy from borders to get it signed?) knowing that
would make a big difference for me between lugging my guitar on the train to
get it signed or leaving it at home! and 2) will i get time for a photo
w/them? having 30 seconds to babble out my fandom and admiration, while
trying to keep from passing out was really all i had in mind, but i don't
want to be expecting too much!

:) abigail

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i was just driving in my car listening to dr. laura on the radio and she
played part of shame on you.

totally indigo-rific!

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in a message dated 97-08-07 09:08:13 edt, jllefebv@ouray.cudenver.edu
(jennifer lynn lefebvre) writes:

<<
omigod! i just finished watching the re-broadcast of ig on rosie o!
could amy possibly look any cuter?!  i'm in love!
  >>

arrrgghhh!!! my vcr didn't click on to tape the show while i was at work, so
i missed it for the 2nd time!!! anyone out there who taped the show and is
willing to send me a copy?

karen
(*hates* programming her vcr)

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<<<< drew just wote:

i was just driving in my car listening to dr. laura on the radio and she
played part of shame on you.

totally indigo-rific!>>>>

vicki adds:
i just want to say that no one should get the impression that dr. laura
is at all cool cuz she played amy.  she knows nothing about music (or
much else); it's her music editor that selects all her music, and when
he plays it, sometimes she doesn't even know what it is!

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hey listees,
this is amber from abilene/lubbock and i just wanted to let you know that i
am back on the list.  i know some people from ft. worth 4/10 and the last
concert that i was able to go to was in new orleans on 6/24 on family
vacation.  i never posted a review of the new orleans concert, though.  it
wasn't as personal as ft. worth and it also wasn't as much fun (guess you
can't beat your first).  there was one song, maybe scooter boys, that amy
broke a guitar string on and she kept jamming.  it was really cool to see.
my brother and i were able to move as close as we could without getting on
the floor.  when lift went off stage, todd & i walked around (kiefer uno is
circular) where we could see lift putting up their stuff, but then we got in
trouble by security.  new orleans was fun, though, because i was successful
for once.  i convinced my mom, dad, and brother to all go (so i could go).
we were on family vacation :)  it was a fun trip to new orleans. my brother
and i were big dorks.  we made this sign that said indigo girls or bust and
put it in the back window of our van.  heehee.  we had to drive from lubbock
to new orleans, though, so we had to think of something to keep us
entertained.  i might add this picture to my webpage, but i don't know.  i
better go now.
amber

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>
> i wonder if there's any precedent for mail fraud prosecution in such a
> case... anyone know?  i understand that the penalties for mail fraud are
> pretty stiff.
>
but booting itself is legally shaky, anyway, so it would go against the
interests of everyone involved to try to take legal action.
kirsten

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on wed, 6 aug 1997 mmedido@aol.com wrote:

> did you ever hear the bumbershoot boot with the woman who screeched
> continuously ...we're talkin'  outside the range of human vocal ability here
> and
> not in any rythmic fashion ?????
> it was truly frightning.
> i, of course never need to worry about anyone disturbing me, because
> if they do i just smack them, shut's 'em right up.
> but violence is not the answer ;)

hey everyone, and claire,
yep, i was there at the time, she was more than likely related to the
woman who shoved past me and my pals three songs in puking drunk who tried
to pick a fight with the little tree huggers who had refused to stand up
cos..after all they were there first (like maybe 7 .a.m.) and tripped her
drunken self over their sitting bodies and whirled around with hate in her
eyes and a mild look of nausea brought on by the impending vomitous state
she was soon to adopt...grappling in the air she flailed both hands at
them and twisted off at a 45 degree angle through the swirling sea of ig
fans...swallowed up as it were...never to remember the event cos she was
amuck in an ocean of liquid spirits....sigh...i remember it well binky,
summer o 96...when i had yet to discover the wonders of this here list and
the amazing people...brings a tear to me eye, it does.
peace ya'll
love, kim (n.v.)

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hi all,

just found out a friend can't make next wednesday's, 8/13, lilith fair in
scranton, pa.  so, if anyone's intersted in a reserved seat in row o for face
value of $38.50, let me know.  please e-mail me privately.

terri
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hey y'all!  i'm back from nashville and happier than ever! :)  ig were
sooooooooooooo good last night!  the one thing i wanted to add to joan's
review is an observation i made during closer to fine.  emily played an
acoustic guitar, of course, but amy played the banjo, and jerry played the
mandolin!!!   has anyone ever seen this arrangement of instruments
before???  ig invited everyone up on stage for that one, and pretty much
everyone came.  sarah mclachlan, lisa loeb, and jewel all sang solo verses,
and emmylou harris and mary black were also up there.  :)))))))
anyone have any comments on that???
sue :)

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hi, y'all! i'm a newbie to the list, tho of course i've been lurking. my
name is melanie (i use *mel* to confuse gender spammers & searchers). i
live in atlanta, tho like some people god made me born a yankee. i grew
up in no.nj. anyway...
lately, boots seem to be the topic du jour. does anyone have a good boot
of newport 96? i have a partial boot. (i forgot to turn it on til 20-30
min into their set & i was so flustered & pissed at myself that i didn't
make sure it was set to auto-rev -- it wasn't.) i have 45 min of the
middle. i'm also curious about the relative quality of my boot. there is
a lot of talking & related *peoplenoise*, but the sound quality of the
music is pretty good. if any of you long time ig netters & boot
collectors are interested let me know & i'll send you a copy. then let
me know what you think. if you want to add it to your collection, you
could recip. by sending me one of your favorite boots - i'd appreciate
it.
as for the topic of "wooohooooing"... my boot has e's song "talk about
time"(?) when she had the false start & said "i f____ed it up." when she
first started the song, everyone was talking & making noise. after she
messed up & said the f-word, it was one of the biggest ovations of the
day. but interestingly, when she finally started again - it was the most
attentive 20,000 people you've ever *not heard*. even as i write this,
it occurs to me that this was probably discussed here back in aug 96 -
if it was - sorry.
ignorance is not always bliss, sometimes it's inflammable.
note to abby mcguire <abby493@aol.com>: i don't know about nj (anymore),
but on my newport boot, mm's version of wild horses isn't missin'
nuthin'. wooohooooo!!  ;-)  sorry (again), i couldn't resist.
btw - my favorite hobby is collecting autographed t-shirts. i have some
ig's, mm's,
k hall's, billy p, shawn c,... well, you get the idea. and no, never
have i or would i sell or trade them. the most significant aspect of my
*little* hobby is that i *must* be wearing the shirt when it gets
signed.
sorry (x3) this is so long :-}

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at 01:19 pm 8/7/97 -0500, you wrote:

>everyone came.  sarah mclachlan, lisa loeb, and jewel all sang solo verses,
>and emmylou harris and mary black were also up there.  :)))))))
>anyone have any comments on that???

i do.  while my heart damned near leapt from my chest with excitement when
i realize what was happening (sarah and ig performing together!), by the
end of the song i had come to the conclusion that i'd have just as much
preferred that ig had done ctf by themselves.

i love sarah mclachlan's voice, and jewel's okay, but let's face it...
closer to fine is an indigo girls song, and while it was interesting
hearing other, (perhaps more melodic) voices cover it, it just wasn't quite
the same.

don't get me wrong... i enjoyed it nonetheless!  i was also a bit miffed
that they would do something like this and end up having half of the
performers look like idiots.  perhaps you didn't notice the papers that
most of them carried?  my guess: lyric sheets.  this guess is reinforced by
the occasional lyrical screw up that could be found during the song:

        jewel, in her somewhat artist rendition of her verse, spent four years
prostrate to the higher mind, but never got her papers and was free.
because that was due (as best as i could tell) to artistic creativity in
the singing of her verse, i can "forgive" it.

        but need i mention lisa loeb's highly notable stumble?  she too completely
missed "i went in seeking clarity" after notably bumbling "twice as cloudy
as i'd been <"the night" was missing> before".

my point being that it would have seemed much better if it actually
appeared that they'd done any preparation for this instead of just handing
out lyric sheets and saying "here, you sing this bit."

moving from the realm of the hootenany, i thought it was great that they
opened with "shed your skin," although i think they had a bit too much bass
during the song (and i love bass).  only seen the girls twice, though, and
have never heard them do two of my favorites "love's recovery" and "blood
and fire."  ah, hell, or pretty much any song they've ever written. :)

i'm just an exceptionally picky bastard. :)  all of this bitching aside, i
enjoyed the ig's set and indeed all of the fair i managed to catch
(post-emmylou).

i would have liked to have heard jewel yodel some.  i mean really yodel,
not that weak junk she actually did.

and sarah m.'s sets always seem terrifically short.  her 50+ minutes last
night seemed like about 15 to me, much the same effect as the last time i
saw her in concert.

doug

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we were in a local coffee shop last night when my husband noticed a canvas
on the wall:  "i've become the beggar now"  "you've become the saint
somehow"  painted behind a woman sitting, imploringly reaching out to the
viewer.
this is the first time i've notice ig effect on visual artworks- has anyone
seen other examples of this?   and, needless to say, i was quite impressed
that dan would even notice such a thing (of course, he was the one who
really wanted pot as our "first dance"...).

jessica

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damn! i forgot to use my brand new, created just for this moment
signature file.
better late, than never... sometimes... maybe even not this time... but
what the heck.
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at 03:08 pm 8/7/97 -0400, jessica wrote:
>we were in a local coffee shop last night when my husband noticed a canvas
>on the wall:  "i've become the beggar now"  "you've become the saint
>somehow"  painted behind a woman sitting, imploringly reaching out to the
>viewer.
>this is the first time i've notice ig effect on visual artworks- has anyone
>seen other examples of this?
our own kimberly hobbs ( aka kim in north van ) does some incredible art
work + one outstanding painting of hers is an interpretation of the song
"chicken man". on one of my visits to her home, i was treated to a peek at
her work. i stood for a long time just looking at "chicken man" because it
really truely caught the "feeling" of that song... all dark + full of
motion... this was the first + only painting i've ever seen that was
inspired of an ig song... well, aside from the flowing artwork throughout
the hammer + nail video on my watershed tape...
peace all, kim the goddess ( blowing her very talented friend's horn ) :-)
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in a message dated 97-08-07 15:23:56 edt, you write:

<< this is the first time i've notice ig effect on visual artworks- has
anyone
seen other examples of this?  >>

   i am a visual artist...and i can definitely say that music has an effect
on what i produce in my art.  but then again, music has always had a profound
affect on me in many ways.  i've wanted to incorporate some ig stuff directly
into my art for a while now, to work with writing as part of the
painting/etc...but i just have to wait untill it comes to me! :)  hmmm....i'm
getting a bit inspired...thanks for the post jessica! :)
~jen

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hi all:

      for the south florida fans, i checked out the ticketmaster site and the
coral sky appearance has not yet been posted. however, i have e-mailed the
southeast office and will post the response when received.

      signing off with my fingers crossed!


annie

         "every thought's a possibility."

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i found two more tour dates in september.  i got them by calling the venues.

9/8/97 sheas auditorium,  buffalo, ny
9/9/97 landmark theater, syracuse, ny

happy indigo day!
elise

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yes i have a comment!!

did anybody boot the nashville lf?  pleazzzz...

pam

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august 3
sweetjane@geocities.com (heather solimini)
happy belated 19th, heather!

august 10
s-laufer@nwu.edu (sari)
happy 19th, sari!

*note from bg the fourth*
whew!  with the craziness of summer and the fact that there are so
few birthdays happening, i haven't been able to keep on top of this.
my appologies to those who may have felt slighted.

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hi, did you happen to find out -how- the venue will be selling their
tickets? because if you have to be a student at the college, it could be
rather difficult. i would love to see them in boone!

kelly

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at 05:46 pm 8/7/97 -0400, elise wrote:
>i found two more tour dates in september.  i got them by calling the venues.
>
>9/8/97 sheas auditorium,  buffalo, ny
>9/9/97 landmark theater, syracuse, ny

no offense to my fine friends out east, but who the hell is making up this
tour schedule????????

by the time august comes to an end, the northeast area (going as far west as
pa, south as dc and as north as canada) will have had 22 shows since spring!
(25 if i count virginia but i thought that was pushing it).

and what do we in the fine states of wi, mn, il, ia, and in get (heck, i
might as well include mo and ks)??? one college tour show (davenport) and
four 50 minute lilith fair performances -- and for me, two of those are six
hour drives! and then we finally get blessed with a signing appearance in
the city that not only has a sucky football team but also has funky green
hot dog relish -- chicago -- and those who attend it will have to miss a
third of lilith if they go???? (thank god i'm helping beth move this weekend
so i don't have to make _that_ decision!;)

they knew all along that the east coast was getting the hte tour, so why do
so many college and shed shows in the same area??? i don't get it.

all i can say is that i sure as heck hope that come nov/dec that we get a
slew of club and theatre dates.

deb

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a while back i was in a creative mood (unusual for me) and did a
watercolor interpretation of "withoutyouness".  i liked it, anyway.
i wanted to scan it onto the 'net so i could share it with y'all, but
i was having dificulty getting it to scan right side up.  i may just
have to give up and instruct people to turn their heads 90 degrees
one way or the other to look at it...

anna

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out, it's just sort of a tired feeling." --paula poundstone
http://narnia.emu.edu/pub/students/creechal/creechal.htm

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hey anyone in sf or san jose, there is an awesome acoustic group (two)
called "the basics" who are awesome!  i'm visiting the bay area to play,
and really would like to go to this show on friday nite.  they are playing
in campbell at a small club.  i'm staying at the beautiful youth hostile
in sausalito friday night, and playing in sf (mostly shopping at record
stores/for shoes/etc) on saturday morning.  any suggestions with shops
would be appreciated.  also if you wanna go to the show, let me
know...they are wonderful, i've got all their cds, except their brand new
one.  the basics play across the coast, and are unsigned, acoustic duo,
sometimes with a drummer, they often play at stanford, having earned their
degrees there, and are so down to earth, and wonderful!

let me know.

seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu
707)825-0449

i'm leaving on friday around 12:00pm.

ciao!

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hi!  everyones talking about these tour dates in september, october,
etc...i am unfortunately not able to get access to them on my computer-
every time i try my computer keeps freezing!!!  about the only thing i'm
able to do with this darn computer is get on the ig web page...thank
g-d, and to send out e-mail!  if anyone knows the tour dates (even if
they aren't confirmed) please post!  thanks a lot!
        power to the people!
        alison

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in a message dated 97-08-07 20:28:49 edt, you write:

<< note to abby mcguire <abby493@aol.com>: i don't know about nj (anymore),
but on my newport boot, mm's version of wild horses isn't missin'
nuthin'. wooohooooo!!  ;-)  sorry (again), i couldn't resist. >>

ooops i hope i wasn't misunderstood when i said wild horses seemed to be
missing somethig.  all i meant was the only thing that would have made wh any
better is if amy and emily were there.  even without them, michelle malone is
*amazing*
didn't mean to sound like i was dissing mm

abby

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excerpts from internet.music.indigo-girls: 7-aug-97 ny tour dates by
elise@lightlink.com
> i found two more tour dates in september.  i got them by calling the venues.
>
> 9/8/97 sheas auditorium,  buffalo, ny
> 9/9/97 landmark theater, syracuse, ny
>


i thought they we banned from sheas?  :)

gabrielle

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subject:      i second what doug said about nash lf

i suppose i agree with doug about all the folks butchering and/or putting
their own twist to closer than fine.  i used to think that sort of thing
was really cool, but it seems like lately it usually involves people
who don't appear to be that familiar with the song.  it's like, it's
a special song, but you've got all these "outsiders" up there f*cking it
up, you know?  so, what should be a very special moment ends up sounding
like a half-assed attempt at a jam.  now, at the chastain park shows,
closer to fine was awesome, but then again local musicians (who are fans)
were onstage with them and you know it really meant something to them to
be jamming to that.  btw, last night, the crowd was so wild that i couldn't even see
that amy was playing banjo.  i really hate that i could not see that.  oh well...
i also forgot to mention that michelle malone backed the girls up on
guitar for a few songs. :-d

still basking in the afterglow...

joan :-d

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funny english notices around the world!
------------------------------------
here are some signs and notices written in english that were
discovered throughout the world.  you have to give the writers an 'e'
for effort.  we hope you enjoy them.

in a tokyo hotel:
is forbidden to steal hotel towels please.  if you are not a person
to do such thing is please not to read notis.

in a bucharest hotel lobby:
the lift is being fixed for the next day.  during that time we regret
that you will be unbearable.

in a leipzig elevator:
do not enter the lift backwards, and only when lit up.

in a belgrade hotel elevator:
to move the cabin, push button for wishing floor.  if the cabin
should enter more persons, each one should press a number of wishing
floor.  driving is then going alphabetically by national order.

in a paris hotel elevator:
please leave your values at the front desk.

in a hotel in athens:
visitors are expected to complain at the office between the hours of
9 and 11 a.m. daily.

in a yugoslavian hotel:
the flattening of underwear with pleasure is the job of the
chambermaid.

in a japanese hotel:
you are invited to take advantage of the chambermaid.

in the lobby of a moscow hotel across from a russian orthodox
monastery:
you are welcome to visit the cemetery where famous russian and soviet
composers, artists, and writers are buried daily except thursday.

in an austrian hotel catering to skiers:
not to perambulate the corridors in the hours of repose in the boots
of ascension.

on the menu of a swiss restaurant:
our wines leave you nothing to hope for.

on the menu of a polish hotel:
salad a firm's own make; limpid red beet soup with cheesy dumplings
in the form of a finger; roasted duck let loose; beef rashers beaten
up in the country people's fashion.

outside a hong kong tailor shop:
ladies may have a fit upstairs.

in a bangkok dry cleaner's:
drop your trousers here for best results.

outside a paris dress shop:
dresses for street walking.

in a rhodes tailor shop:
order your summers suit.  because is big rush we will execute
customers in strict rotation.

a sign posted in germany's black forest:
it is strictly forbidden on our black forest camping site that people
of different sex, for instance, men and women, live together in one
tent unless they are married with each other for that purpose.

in a zurich hotel:
because of the impropriety of entertaining guests of the opposite sex
in the bedroom, it is suggested that the lobby be used for this
purpose.

in an advertisement by a hong kong dentist:
teeth extracted by the latest methodists.

in a rome laundry:
ladies, leave your clothes here and spend the afternoon having a good
time.

in a czechoslovakian tourist agency:
take one of our horse-driven city tours - we guarantee no
miscarriages.

advertisement for donkey rides in thailand:
would you like to ride on your own ass?

in a swiss mountain inn:
special today -- no ice cream.

in a bangkok temple:
it is forbidden to enter a woman even a foreigner if dressed as a man.


in a tokyo bar:
special cocktails for the ladies with nuts.

in a copenhagen airline ticket office:
we take your bags and send them in all directions.

on the door of a moscow hotel room:
if this is your first visit to the ussr, you are welcome to it.

in a norwegian cocktail lounge:
ladies are requested not to have children in the bar.

in a budapest zoo:
please do not feed the animals.  if you have any suitable food, give
it to the guard on duty.

in the office of a roman doctor:
specialist in women and other diseases.

in an acapulco hotel:
the manager has personally passed all the water served here.

in a tokyo shop:
our nylons cost more than common, but you'll find they are best in
the long run.

from a japanese information booklet about using a hotel air
conditioner:
cooles and heates:  if you want just condition of warm in your room,
please control yourself.

from a brochure of a car rental firm in tokyo:
when passenger of foot heave in sight, tootle the horn. trumpet him
melodiously at first, but if he still obstacles your passage then
tootle him with vigor.

two signs from a majorcan shop entrance:
-   english well talking.
-   here speeching american.


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date: 30 july 1997, 07:48:39 edt
from  richter-allen, astrid a.                       richtast at
internet
      richtast@timken.com
to: anthony skipper                                skipper  at
internet
      skipper@timken.com
      dana kasparek                                  kasparek at
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      english, kenneth p.                            imceaex- at
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      janice williamson                              williaja at
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      janis jo baker                                 bakerjan at
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      mishele cabarcas                               cabarcam at
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      paul wohlfarth                                 wohlfarp at
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i got this recently and it's absolutely hilarious!!

-astrid

> -----original message-----
>
> funny english notices around the world!
> - - ------------------------------------
>          here are some signs and notices written in english that
were
>          discovered throughout the world.  you have to give the
> writers an
>          'e' for effort.  we hope you enjoy them.
>
>   in a tokyo hotel:
>          is forbidden to steal hotel towels please.  if you are not
a
>          person to do such thing is please not to read notis.
>
>   in a bucharest hotel lobby:
>          the lift is being fixed for the next day.  during that
time
> we
>          regret that you will be unbearable.
>
>   in a leipzig elevator:
>          do not enter the lift backwards, and only when lit up.
>
>   in a belgrade hotel elevator:
>          to move the cabin, push button for wishing floor.  if the
> cabin
>          should enter more persons, each one should press a number
of
>          wishing floor.  driving is then going alphabetically by
> national
>          order.
>
>   in a paris hotel elevator:
>          please leave your values at the front desk.
>
>   in a hotel in athens:
>          visitors are expected to complain at the office between
the
> hours
>          of 9 and 11 a.m. daily.
>
>   in a yugoslavian hotel:
>          the flattening of underwear with pleasure is the job of
the
>          chambermaid.
>
>   in a japanese hotel:
>          you are invited to take advantage of the chambermaid.
>
>   in the lobby of a moscow hotel across from a russian orthodox
> monastery:
>          you are welcome to visit the cemetery where famous
russian
> and
>          soviet composers, artists, and writers are buried daily
> except
>          thursday.
>
>   in an austrian hotel catering to skiers:
>          not to perambulate the corridors in the hours of repose
in
> the
>          boots of ascension.
>
>   on the menu of a swiss restaurant:
>          our wines leave you nothing to hope for.
>
>   on the menu of a polish hotel:
>          salad a firm's own make; limpid red beet soup with cheesy
>          dumplings in the form of a finger; roasted duck let loose;

> beef
>          rashers beaten up in the country people's fashion.
>
>   outside a hong kong tailor shop:
>          ladies may have a fit upstairs.
>
>   in a bangkok dry cleaner's:
>          drop your trousers here for best results.
>
>   outside a paris dress shop:
>          dresses for street walking.
>
>   in a rhodes tailor shop:
>          order your summers suit.  because is big rush we will
execute
>          customers in strict rotation.
>
>   a sign posted in germany's black forest:
>          it is strictly forbidden on our black forest camping site
> that
>          people of different sex, for instance, men and women,
live
> together
>          in one tent unless they are married with each other for
that
>          purpose.
>
>   in a zurich hotel:
>          because of the impropriety of entertaining guests of the
> opposite
>          sex in the bedroom, it is suggested that the lobby be
used
> for
>          this purpose.
>
>   in an advertisement by a hong kong dentist:
>          teeth extracted by the latest methodists.
>
>   in a rome laundry:
>          ladies, leave your clothes here and spend the afternoon
> having a
>          good time.
>
>   in a czechoslovakian tourist agency:
>          take one of our horse-driven city tours - we guarantee no
>          miscarriages.
>
>   advertisement for donkey rides in thailand:
>          would you like to ride on your own ass?
>
>   in a swiss mountain inn:
>          special today -- no ice cream.
>
>   in a bangkok temple:
>          it is forbidden to enter a woman even a foreigner if
dressed
> as a
>          man.
>
>   in a tokyo bar:
>          special cocktails for the ladies with nuts.
>
>   in a copenhagen airline ticket office:
>          we take your bags and send them in all directions.
>
>   on the door of a moscow hotel room:
>          if this is your first visit to the ussr, you are welcome
to
> it.
>
>   in a norwegian cocktail lounge:
>          ladies are requested not to have children in the bar.
>
>   in a budapest zoo:
>          please do not feed the animals.  if you have any suitable
> food,
>          give it to the guard n duty.
>
>   in the office of a roman doctor:
>          specialist in women and other diseases.
>
>   in an acapulco hotel:
>          the manager has personally passed all the water served
here.
>
>   in a tokyo shop:
>          our nylons cost more than common, but you'll find they
are
> best
> in the long run.
>
>    from a japanese information booklet about using a hotel air
> conditioner:
>          cooles and heates:  if you want just condition of warm in
> your
>          room, please control yourself.
>
>    from a brochure of a car rental firm in tokyo:
>          when passenger of foot heave in sight, tootle the horn.
> trumpet
>          him melodiously at first, but if he still obstacles your
> passage
>          then tootle him with vigor.
>
>   two signs from a majorcan shop entrance:
>          -   english well talking.
>          -   here speeching american.
>
>
>
>
> - ------- end of forwarded message
>
>
> ------- end of forwarded message


<< end of forwarded message >>

____
right now, pop music is flaccid.  the prefab hype of spice girls, the
sugar-shock kiddie ditties of hanson, the admirable wholesomeness but
inexcusable tiresomeness of bob carlisle, the horrific power
screeching of celine dion - turn it off.  turn it all off.  it's
meaningless olestra music, artificial and nutrient free."
     -time magazine, "galapalooza

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subject:      sorry!!! (nigc)

okay,
i really should check all my posts from the list before deciding to
send what i thought was a hilarious forward.  obviously, i wasn't the
only one, but i'm sure y'all didn't need to see it again to find it
amusing. i'm referring to the mixed-up english signs in foreign
countries.  please forgive me for wasting your time and bandwidth.
it's been a long, long week.  hope the rest of it is beautiful for
everyone.  sorry again.

elizabeth

____
right now, pop music is flaccid.  the prefab hype of spice girls, the
sugar-shock kiddie ditties of hanson, the admirable wholesomeness but
inexcusable tiresomeness of bob carlisle, the horrific power
screeching of celine dion - turn it off.  turn it all off.  it's
meaningless olestra music, artificial and nutrient free."
     -time magazine, "galapalooza

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