lifeblood: listlogs: 1997-08e

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date:         fri, 29 aug 1997 11:34:11 -0400
reply-to:     sgbmoose@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         digest sgbmoose <sgbmoose@aol.com>
subject:      fan club

i'd like this address/number too if anyone has it....thank you!!!!

>>>i've read of people purchasing items from the fan club. could someone
>>>please e-mail me this address? thanks.

okay, i was pounding away at ticketmaster looking for some clue about the
rumored las vegas show with ig and bonnie raitt and i actually found the
following in the on-sales section:

on sale 8/28/97 (all times local)

10:00 am no nukes benefit, hospitality point / popsite,san diego,9/29/97
,"$7.50$35.00$75.00"

on sale 8/30/97 (all times local)

12:00 pm no nukes benefit, joint / hard rock hotel,las vegas,9/30/97
,"$35.00$50.00$65.0"

{notice the first one supposedly went on sale today (thursday)

so i tried looking under actual concerts and this confirming entry is
listed under "b" for bonnie...

a no nukes benefit
bonnie,jackson and john
stop ward valley
gte summerpops@hospitality [<---- this is the san diego venue above]
rain or shine/no beverages
mon sept 29,1997 7:00pm

san diego symphony embarcadero:  [ <---- i have no idea what this means ]
    all events
    primary act: bonnie raitt
    city: san diego
    state: ca
    event date: 29-sep-97
    charge-by-phone: (619) 220-8497 [<-- 9am - 9pm, i tried at 9:30]
    ticket center information

-----------------------------------

my conclusions:
1. this is the show in question - there aren't going to be 2 no nukes
shows in vegas on 9/30

2. bonnie raitt will be in san diego and las vegas

3. it's not at all clear that ig will be in either san diego or las
vegas. and who is "john"?

4. no nukes is fine, but i'd like to save just one for ticketmaster
headquarters.

i know absolutely nothing else. don't even ask.

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"misanthropy, yes, misogyny, no" - peter greenaway
alison - alisont@netcom.com

>i think they should get melissa etheridge to play amy and joni
>mitchell to play emily....
>

umm, okay maybe melissa could do amy, but joni for emily?!? she's older,
and though she sings beautifully, she's simply not errr (searching for pc
terminology) as ascetically pleasing as emily.

also, to anyone on the list who might care, i'll be switching over to my
college email account, so for now gaiachild@juno.com is no more. so
everyone please refrain from posting anything interesting in the next few
days.

thanks,

jeremy
(james601@uwsp.edu)

i've probably sent a record for nigc in 24 hrs - but they're not working
this week (as least as far as scheduled live perfs go) so...

a while back [sat, 16 aug 12:13 -0400] i posted specific tour info for
what will be nanci griffith's last, yes *last*, tour before she retires
from performing. several people then e-mailed me for more info:

nanci will supposedly be performing on the west coast in nov. no dates
have yet been set.

the tentative *last, last tour date* is "on or about nov 25."

okay... i decided to add this so i could claim *sillyigc*...

"ig: the movie" - starring: jennifer jason leigh (w brn hair) - amy
mare winningham (w strbry/blnd) - emily

hey... it might not be that silly... it could happen...
if ig stay together another 16-17 years (til they're over 50)...

(note: never check your e-mail if you need to get up in the middle of
the night)

okay... i'm going back to bed & dream sweet indigo dreams... |o)
--
-- mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>

           "what a poor appearance the tales of the poets
            make stripped of the colors which music puts
            upon them, and recited in simple verse."
                - plato

hey everyone,

the billy tipton memorial saxophone quartet (4 wome on saxes and a
drummer) seemed to have made such a splash while opening for ig during
july, that i thought i'd inform you on a couple of dates they are playing
in the next week.

sorry to waste bandwidth for all you non-pnw's. when they begin their
national tour, i'll let all you others know, as well!

saturday august 30- bumbershoot, seattle 4:30 pm on the starbucks jazz
stage

wednesday, sept. 3 sam bond's garage, eugene, or 9 pm
407 blair blvd, phone 541-431-6683

thursday, sept. 4 the bijou cafe, portland, or 7:30 pm
132 sw 3rd, phone 503-771-0921

if you have any questions regarding these shows or the tiptons, please
feel free to mail me.  if you haven't ever seen them and can check them
out, you should.  they're amazing to watch.  just ask anyone who saw them
as the ig openers.  :)

be well everyone,

carolyn

earlier i wrote:
>"ig: the movie" - starring: jennifer jason leigh (w brn hair) - amy
> mare winningham (w strbry/blnd) - emily

maybe i should have spelled out the subtlety for non-cinophiles:

how i thought of leigh & winningham-- they starred together as sisters
in "georgia" - mare played a talented singer/songwriter & leigh was her
jealous n'er do well younger sister.
--
-- mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>

           "what a poor appearance the tales of the poets
            make stripped of the colors which music puts
            upon them, and recited in simple verse."
                - plato

there's been a second show added to the no nukes shows at warner theater in
dc. the first (9/24) featured ig, bonnie raitt, and john trudell. the new
date (9/25), on sale this morning (ticketmaster - 202-432-seat), features
mary chapin carpenter, bonnie raitt, and john trudell. no chance of ig
joining them as they are in jacksonville that night.

--
deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo
_________________________________________________________________
"the hardest work most of us do is maintaining
the appearance of normality." - harry shearer

i think jeanene garofalo is a great choice for amy. a young sharon gless
(ex-cagney on cagney & lacey) would work for em, i think.

rich benson
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
cobweb@grove.ufl.edu
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
"there's nothing we like to see more than when
we're playing at a college, and there's five frat
brothers down in the front with their arms around
each other, driking beer and singing love songs."
-a. ray (indigo girls)
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

i am truly amazed at the number of responses to my query re: 1200
curfews. based on the overwhelmingly positive reviews (shall i assume
that absolutely everybody adores this cd?) i will be adding it to my
collection by the end of the day. (t.g.i.f.)

thanks again for all the nice messages...safe to say i now know exactly
where to turn to inquire about all things indigo!

nic danger, third eye

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at 02:13 pm 8/25/97 -0400, deb wrote:
>sounds like an ntsc video, which is simply the video format used in the uk
>and elsewhere.

of course, i got this exactly backwards... ntsc is the us format, pal is
the uk format!

=-=-=-=

deb reiser <dreiser@wi.net> wrote:

>i know at one point they said they were having problems with the logistics
>of the high school tour, so i still hope the can pull it off.

more homophobic principals and parents?! :-)

=-=-=-=

mel <melsouth@mindspring.com> wrote:
>i will add one addendum without mentioning any specifics which might be
>erroneously taken to be a violation of faq code 4.2.7 (ig privacy)
>
>i had a close encounter with emily!

i don't think you're in violation of the code. :-) to me, talking about
meeting the girls is totally different from discussing who they're seeing,
where they're hanging out, where they live, etc.

=-=-=-=

lisa arthur <lisalisaa@aol.com> asked:
>is the ig's version of that everbody get together song that they
>did as a benefit for habitat on a cd or video that one could purchase?

"get together" is on the album strange fire. see my ig page for a link to
a useful but out-dated (4/17/96) discography. [you still out there, steve?]

=-=-=-=

at 08:09 pm 8/28/97 edt, joan morrison wrote:
>which brings me to my next question: does anyone know if the blacksburg, va
>show is sold out? if not, could someone who knows the ticket ordering phone
>number please e-mail me privately?

keep heading north... the dc show at warner theater with bonnie raitt
(9/25) still had balcony seats available as of yesterday morning. i'm
amazed! there are virtually no bad seats at warner!

=-=-=-=

don richards <donrich@neo.lrun.com> wrote:
>just got the 1994 self-titled release of disappear fear. wow! i can't
>leave it out of the cd player. the phil ochs classic "is there anybody
>here", and sonia's own "be the one" just do a job on your heartstrings.
>actually, so does the rest of the album. check it out.

if you're gonna buy a df cd, that's the *last* one i'd get. i think "live
at the bottom line" is the best. but they all pale in comparison to seeing
sonia live.

=-=-=-=

kiezha smith <ksmith@sewanee.edu> wrote:
>i can't imagine anyone who likes ig not getting into some neil young!!

it's the voice! imo, he's one of those brilliant songwriters who should
write and not sing (see also: bob dylan, jules shear, victoria williams)...

=-=-=-=

mel <melsouth@mindspring.com> wrote:
>if someone were to ask me - "if you could only keep *one* of your ig
>cds, tapes, or albums which would one would you keep?"
>
>easy answer: <1200 curfews>

no doubt! and it's not just because it's a double cd, either -- it's just
brilliant!

=-=-=-=

marival danielson <marivel@umich.edu> asked about the soy video:

>anyway, what i'm particularily interested in are the words in spanish that
>run at the bottom of the screen towards the end of the video.

here's what rachel rivera <spirits4@aol.com> posted previously:

>hi y'all!  here is an updated translation of the marcos quote from the soy
>video.  thanks lisa, kelly, and leticia!  the translation is a little longer
>than the actual quote because the suggestions seemed to fit together nicely.
> any other translations are welcome!  enjoy!
>
>"nuestra lucha es por la tierra. hablando en su corazon indio, la patria
>sigue digna y con memoria. la patria que contruimos es una donde quepan
>todos los pueblos y sus lenguas, que todos los pasos la caminen, que todos la
>rian que la amanezcan todos.  aqui estamos. no nos perdimos.  zapata
>vive, y a pesar de todo, la lucha sigue."  -subcomandante insurgente marcos
>
>our fight is for the land.  speaking in its indian heart, the homeland
>continues with dignity and memory.  the homeland that we've constructed is
>one where all of the people and their languages have a place, where everyone
>can walk their own path, where all the passages travel through, where
>everyone laughs, and where all are awakened.  we are here.  we are not lost.
> zapata lives and in spite of everything, the fight continues.
> -subcomandante insurgente marcos

i watched the sb - pissed off amy ray part again, and again, ang adain,
gand adaing, and againand......until i souldn't cpeak, or couldn't speak,
......
well, anyway, she turned towards the side of the stage and starting
walking not straight over to the side, but a little towards her amp, or
maybe someone else's amp.....but i assume it wouldn't be emily's main
amp cause that would be near sara lee on the other side of the stage.
so, after that i think she said "turn (my, the, amp) down, down" (it looks
really funny in slow mo cause her face gets real crinkled up when she
says the first down, cause shes obviously not that happy) i might be off
by a few words, but my conclusion is either her guitar or her vocals.

1. i think acoustic guitars aren't supposed to be that loud with a full
electric setup and electric lead guitar (or is it rhythm?)
2. i think also that her vocals were a lot louder than emily's the first
verse

of course, i would like to get a definitve answer, but she spoke soooooo
fast to her sound guy.....i was thinking "how the heck could someone
understand her when you couldn't here an ambulance pass by?"  but
then again, amy ain't no spring chicken as far as live performances go
(and es of course too!)  (ps - this has nothing to do with her weight,
even though spring chickens are known to have a few uneeded love
handle feathers)
maybe i'll have to listen to the sound levels closer to reallllly tell - or then
again - do i have anything else to do in my life - no!  of course not!!!!,
i'll find this out if it's the last thing i'm gonna do!!!!!
(settle down beavis - vuja-de!!!)

.........................................
and on a side note regarding spring chickens - oops! - i mean the uk,
------ who on the list lives in the uk and know of places to go in london,
bath, & cardiff.....
this is rather open-ended, but hey - :p

cheers, slainte
................
too much hands on my time, but fun was to be had by all.... 8-)
be fun, have kind
mkc
"i thought love lasted so i always stayed the night!!!"-mf

when 1200 curfews came out i walked 2 miles (each way) from work during
my lunch hour to purchase this cd. i then put the headphones on at my
desk and listened to both discs while working (or at least attempting
to). from the first chords of joking i *knew* this was going to be a
great cd. imho, this is the best live album any band has ever produced.
really great renditions of songs we all know and love. i listened to
1200 curfews constantly, like every day, for the first 8 months or so
that i had it. after 2 years i am down to listening to it about 1 time
per week. not too bad, considering i have about 300 cds, about 500
albums (vinyl) and about 100 tapes. i paid $25 for 1200 curfews and it
has been well worth the price.

peace,

dan perkins
austin, texas

"laughing and crying, you know it's the same release."
-joni mitchell

>-----original message-----
>from:  nicola nelson [smtp:nicnelson@hotmail.com]
>sent:  thursday, august 28, 1997 4:12 pm
>subject:       1200 curfews
>
>question: i've been thinking about purchasing 1200 curfews, but as its
>pricetag is hefty and my wallet is not i'm wondering if people could
>give me their opinions about it..
>also, those who love the water is wide might enjoy listening to james
>taylor's version of this song on new moon shine.  it's a fine, fine
>version..
>
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hey folks.  i've been away from all computer access for a couple of
weeks.  but now i'm back and have waded through most of the 1,000 some
odd messages i had waiting for me.  (yep, deleted most of it - sometimes
ya just gotta do it)

i've been so out of it i didn't even know until several days ago about
the upcoming ny state shows.  if i had a car i'd be in buffalo on mon.,
syracuse on tues. and albany on wed.  but i don't and my friends with
cars are just not that hard core so syracuse will have to suffice.
orchestra l.  anyone nearby?

-colleen

> umm, okay maybe melissa could do amy, but joni for emily?!? she's
> older, and though she sings beautifully, she's simply not errr
> (searching for pc terminology) as ascetically pleasing as emily.

i was thinking more along the lines of musical styles rather than
features.

anna

"the wages of sin are death, but by the time taxes are taken
out, it's just sort of a tired feeling." --paula poundstone
http://narnia.emu.edu/pub/students/creechal/creechal.htm

ok.  is it my new server, or has the digest version screwed up a little
since i've been gone all summer?  some messages show who it is from, but
some just tack on one message to the bottom of another without showing the
email address, date etc.  also, there is no "end" of the digest like i used
to see.  am i the only one noticing this or does everyone on the digest
version see it?

thanks fellow digestees
lori

"this could be the saddest dusk i've ever seen turn to a miracle"
rem

considering the spooky resemblance between the two which can be seen on the
swamp o. cover, i think a young linda rondstat might do well for amy.....

she has too much time on her hands, too much time, i say!!!

la la la,
cylinda

just a little fyi....and imho about the ig !!!!!!!

1200 curfews was my last album (besides sots), and one of my
favorites, but not my favorite ig album....

my first album i got by them was rop and that is still probably my favorite
by them.  everything on it is just done so well, and really can make you
cry or make you get up and dance at any moment.   running a close
second is so - which just blew me away when it first came out and
turned me into a huge fan.... (sots is a close third btw)   also, the
self-titled album is great and many songs from sf and nis are sooooo
good.....even -get on the bus y'all- is a great album - really good mix of
music and awesome, really into it crowd for those takes....(intimate too)

basically what i'm saying - the point that is - is that 1200 curfews for me
was like a cherry on top, or icing on the cake that just added to my
ig-fan-crazy-whooohooooing..... but i really fell for a+e by listening to all
their albums time after time after time.... in some regards, the album cuts
are better versions, and have more intensity, and sound better but when
you hear songs live after hearing them a lot and being real familiar with
them - that's the best thing in the world - imho....<ahhhhh><angelic
chorus>
so 1200c was a perfect ending to my ig listening at that time, and really
showed me how great they can be and how great a lot of songs can
sound or sounded live!!!!!
also, even though i don't deem it to be an indispensable ig album as far
as which ig album to get first (i see it as #3 or so), i do see it as a *must
have* as far as all albums go....!

so, as far as desert island discs go, that might have to be one of them,
b/c of the awesome live aspect and great/huge/varied song selection
throughout.....

ok, maybe this wasn't .02, maybe around $1.48...... :)

"c'mon, nobody's the next anybody!" -jon fishman
mkc
8-)

hey everyone,
   thanks to everyone who responded to my request for
bootlegs, i'm impressed at everyone's kindness.  but how
could amy and emily fans not be extremely cool? i have a
few things to say:
1. anybody have info for the honor the earth tour stop in
d.c.? i've been periodically checking the honor the earth
web site, but nothing's there.
2. was anybody at the lilith fair in columbus, ohio?  i'm
just wondering if anybody thought that the indigo base
there was curiously lacking.  i was in the back of the
pavilion and everyone around me was sitting down during the
girls' set.  i was the only person for many rows around
standing up and singing at the top of my lungs.  i'm sure
everyone enjoyed my little concert for them...i did get a
few strange looks. during galileo, emily seemed kind of
nervous that people wouldn't know the part that she usually
lets the audience sing, saying "do y'all know this part?"
the people near me definitely didn't.
3. since i just joined the list, i'm not sure if anyone has
talked about this yet, but did anyone else see amy
listening to the performers on the village and second
stages at the l.f.?  she was just in the crowd watching
michelle malone in columbus (more proof that they didn't
have too many fans there, i seemed to be the only one to
recognize her...) and then was sitting on the lawn watching
madeleine peyroux.  i'm just surprised that she would
appear like that, i guess she has enough confidence that
her fans would be polite enough not to mob her, which i'm
glad to say was mostly true.  i must admit, though, i was
sitting next to her on the lawn and i casually scooted over
so i was three or four feet away during the 50 minute set.
is this a topic i'm allowed to talk about?
4. one more random thing...for all you ani fans out there,
have you listened to the very end of the second disc where
ani and i guess andy stochansky are talking about the born
again christians at some open mike night they went to? i
was rolling on the floor, it's hilarious, everyone should
listen to it.

okay, that's all.
stephanie

stephanie lynne merhar
university of virginia
slm4b@virginia.edu
http://faraday.clas.virginia.edu/~slm4b/
****************************************
"i must say around some corner i can sense a
resting place" -emily saliers

i'd like it too. if someone could post it to the entire list it will
make a lot of people who are too reticent to ask very happy.

thanks.

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subject: fan club
author: digest sgbmoose <sgbmoose@aol.com> at internet
date: 8/29/97 11:34 am

i'd like this address/number too if anyone has it....thank you!!!!

>>>i've read of people purchasing items from the fan club. could someone
>>>please e-mail me this address? thanks.

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     the answer to your question is simple:
        if you are truly devoted ig fan, as some of out here in listland
     are, you should own all ig albums, regardless of the hefty pricetag.

just my humble ig opinion.

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subject: 1200 curfews
author: nicola nelson <nicnelson@hotmail.com> at internet
date: 8/28/97 2:11 pm

question: i've been thinking about purchasing 1200 curfews, but as its
pricetag is hefty and my wallet is not i'm wondering if people could
give me their opinions about it.
also, those who love the water is wide might enjoy listening to james
taylor's version of this song on new moon shine. it's a fine, fine
version.

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get your private, free email at http://www.hotmail.com

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hey,
does anyone have more info on the las vegas and san diego shows?
thanks,
java

hi there,

i have two tickets to the coral sky show in miami on the 27th of
september. they are undercover seats almost directly in front of the
stage. unfortunately i have to be in new york that weekend so they're up
for grabs. email me or give me a call...

stephen handley
ph :(305)5986759
shandley@jaguar.ir.miami.edu

hey all,
        a while back someone on the list was inquiring about a bootleg for
the ig show at pine knob in detroit on 6/14/97....does anyone have a boot
of this?  i'd really really really like a copy of this, since i ended up
missing some of the show waiting in various lines.  i have a tiny
collection but i'd be willing to trade.  thank you!

--mani
(think myself into jail.)

--- in reference to sarah mcclockme, scott wrote:
ummm, she's married to her guitarist (or drummer). though i guess she
could be a switch-hitter.
--- end of quote ---
a switch hitter! that's pretty goldurn original, scott! personally, as one of
those wacky switch hitters, i prefer "one who swings both ways" or "sits on
both sides of the fence" or "licks both sides of the ice cream cone" better!!!!

but the actual word is bisexual.

grrrr,

susita
back from vacation, missed y'all!

--- in ref. to songs they've never done live, someone wrote:
what about "the girl w/the weight of the world in her hands" ?
--- end of quote ---
actually, i have this on a boot....from co. in 90 i believe, with a looooong
bit in front about what it's about. i think it's on the chapel hill boot too,
or the emory boot, or whatever. all that double-door swingin' i do is making me
dizzzzzzy

sus, still plowing thru digests ;)

in the weeds (michelle malone, velvel records 1997)

e------------------------------------------------------------
b----------1/0-----------------1/0-----------------1--0
g-----------------0---------------------0------------------
d------------------------------------------------------------
a------2--------------------2--------------------3--------
e--0-------------------3--------------------3-------------

lyrics:

i've been deep in the weeds for so long now
that it's starting to look like up to me
like a firefly's sending signals out
but it seems like it's all up to me
and life she caught me slumbering
and the wakeup call came much too late
and i went to dial your number, friend
but the numbers didn't add up straight

d
well i had nothing to show you
d
and you had somewhere to go
c
so i walked outside
c
on down the line
d
and i lay my body down,
d
can't get my feet back on the ground
c
i walk my head around,
c
walk my head around

g d c
if i can stay alive
g d c
if i can stay alive
d
i could be somebody tomorrow

(continue with intro tab)

i'm not saying keep sharp objects away
but i cut this shirtsleeve from my heart
and if red is the color of life and love
i wanna wear your love like heaven, yeah

d
my desire to survive is second
d
only to my desire to be
c
loved by you...let me take you
d
to the water's edge,
d
show you how beautiful you are
c
and the reflection of these tears,
c
the reflection of these years

g d c
if i can stay alive
g d c
if i can stay alive
d
i could be somebody tomorrow

(this next part is tentitive...all help is appreciated-ejt-)

bridge--
bm
you say you love me anyway and if i were the hotel maid
c
i think you'd love me more
bm
but i feel like a loser, like a shaker not a mover
c
like a worn-out, lonely whore,
g d c
oh-yeah

(tab from intro)

well, i've been deep in the weeds for so long now
machete swing don't cut me down
one more day and i just might
turn this darkness into light

g          d      c
if i can stay alive
g          d       c
if i can stay alive
d                                g
i could be somebody tomorrow

lyrics submitted by heather (hhusted@bu.edu)
tab by liz (lturcotte@star.net)

stephanie wrote;
<<4. one more random thing...for all you ani fans out there,
have you listened to the very end of the second disc where
ani and i guess andy stochansky are talking about the born
again christians at some open mike night they went to? i
was rolling on the floor, it's hilarious, everyone should
listen to it.>>

yep yep andy's little story,..nicknamed the anne frank story..one of
the best things to be found on living in clip..for those of you who dont
know, ani's new album is slated to be released feb.14th of 98, entitled
little plastic castles. andy's 2 albums are still available, check out
his site for more info!
amanda rae
oh, his site would be here:
http://members.tripod.com/~dykeland2/index-andy.html

if amy and emily were cheese what kind of cheese would they be?

love to hear you opinion!
chains

fri 29 aug 17:20 -0400
christine hains<tabie@psyc.queensu.ca> wrote:

>if amy and emily were cheese what kind of cheese would they be?

>love to hear your opinion!
>chains

cheese?!?!?!

what's next?...
trees?... cars?... animals?... ben&jerry ice cream flavors?... computer
browsers?...

umm... they're human beings... talented, generous, & beautiful women.

that's what kind they are.
--
-- mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>

           "what a poor appearance the tales of the poets
            make stripped of the colors which music puts
            upon them, and recited in simple verse."
                - plato

the ig will be at the hard rock lv in las vegas on sept. 30.

tickets go on sale sat. 8/30/97 at noon and must be purchased through
ticketmaster only

the prices are:

     $67.00     rows 1 through 12
     $52.00     researved seating
     $27.00     standing room only

the girls will be appearing with bonnie raitt, jackson brown and i think
some one else.

for more info call the hard rock cafe at 1-800-hrd-rock, and ask for the box
office.

jim gates
fugitive@primenet.com
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they like your band
they shake your hand
they smell like food that has gone bad
today it's you
today will pass
i''m so sick of all this trash...

my record company - k's choice

>
>if amy and emily were cheese what kind of cheese would they be?
>love to hear your opinion!
>chains
>

well, after much thought and due consideration, i believe that amy would
be sharp cheddar and emily would be a mellow edam. i don't know why.<s>

gesi

and in the end, those you love are simply those you love.
-lestat

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got a newsletter in the mail today from the honor the earth org. here's
the igc:

(reprinted without permission)

"announcing the 1997 indigo girls honor the earth tour"

(a voice for the earth and those who are not heard)

this powerful 21 stop concert tour will advocate, gather support and
raise money for native peoples on the front lines of environmental
protection.

the honor the earth tour hopes to reach more than 100,000 music fans and
internet users and raise more than $200,000 in one month - all to benefit
and forward the work of grassroots native environmental groups. this
year's tour will focus on the national watershed issue of nuclear waste
storage on native lands. the tour will stop in a host of east coast
communities where nuclear utilities are located to garner opposition to
plans for moving high level radioactive waste to native communities in
the west. we will deliver a clear, moving message from native peoples
targeted and impacted by the nuclear industry - stop the deadly
production of nuclear waste and keep it off native lands.

among the impacted communities and grassroots groups the tour will
benefit are:

citizen alert native american program - ny: a western shoshone led group
organizing to prevent their sacred yucca mountain from becoming the
nation's dumping ground for nuclear waste.

ohngo guadadeh devia - ut: a grassroots reservation-based group
organizing to prevent a consortium of utilities from leasing reservation
land for an independent nuclear waste dump.

honor the earth will couple it's nuclear waste focus with work to benefit
the efforts of native environmental groups along the tour route, including:

first environmental project - mohawk nation of akwesasne, ny: for work to
hold general motors and the epa accountable for clean up of toxic pcb
contamination of the lands and rivers.

the penobscot nation and irate (indians resisting against tribal
extermination) - me: for work to pressure the lincoln pulp and paper mill
to institute chlorine free technology and stop poisoning their lands with
dioxin.

eastern cherokee defense league - nc: for work to pressure the champion
mill to institute chlorine free technology and put an end to dioxin
contamination of their ancestral lands.

traditional seminole nation - fl: for work to protect their way of life
and homelands in the florida everglades.

fort belknap community - mt: for work to stop cyanide heap leach gold
mining by pegasus gold in their sacred little rocky mountains.

buffalo nation - mt: to halt yellowstone park's slaughter of buffalo, a
sacred relation of great plains indigenous peoples and a national treasure.

broadcast on the internet

you can travel with the honor the earth tour by tuning into our tour
internet broadcasts! you'll get to come behind the scenes and join our
press conferences and talking circles, be there for on the spot coverage
of local issues and take part in the excitement of the concerts.

our 1997 broadcasts mark the launch of honor the earth radio on the world
wide web - a tool for native peoples to report on their own struggles to
a world wide audience in their own voice. this year we have already
broadcast keynote speakers from the indigenous women's network and
indigenous environmental network's annual gatherings, and soon will
broadcast segments of the seventh generation fund's annual sustainable
communities symposium.

honor the earth's internet broadcasts are made possible through generous
in-kind support of monsterbit media, a cutting edge austin-based internet
communications company.

check the honor the earth web site at www.honorearth.com for specific
instructions to download the honor the earth campaign tour broadcasts.

tour ininerary

september  7: st. regis mohawk community of akwesasne, ny
september  8: buffalo, ny
september  9: syracuse, ny
september 10: albany, ny
september 12: amherst, ma
september 13: lewiston, me
september 14: penobscot nation, me
september 15: poughkeepsie, ny
september 16: harrisburg, pa
september 18: eastern cherokee nation, nc
september 19: boone, nc
september 20: blacksburg, va
september 21: columbia, sc
september 22: savannah, ga
september 24: washington, dc
september 25: jacksonville, fl
september 26: tampa, fl
september 27: west palm beach, fl
september 28: traditional seminole nation, fl
september 30: las vegas, nv
october    2: missoula, mt

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

maybe neve campbell and clare danes as amy and emily?

just my $0.02,
fran

>date:  fri, 29 aug 1997 20:56:51 -0400
>from:  frances p egan <frandigo@juno.com>
>subject:      re: ig:the movie (silly igc)
>to:    indigo-girls@netspace.org
>
>maybe neve campbell and clare danes as amy and emily?
>
>just my $0.02,
>fran
>

ooh, not bad. of course, neve would have to cut her hair, but still.
actually, how about neve and claire for the "young ig" and jennifer
jason leigh and mare winningham<i didn't spell that right,did i?> for
the present day girls?

gesi

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i bought these tickets in case i could go but i can't.

they are orch 3, row a, seats 5&6
i just want face value for them which is $53.50/each including tm charges.

e-mail me if interested,
carlisle

thanks to ann m labeck, we all have the address of the indigo girls fan
club.  yes, it is the same address that is given on the liner notes in
each cd (probably records too).  i've sent e-mail to the address with
ann's suggested mention of the words "merchandise" and "purchase."
haven't heard anything yet.  it's been a few day.

however, thanks to erin brown of the list, i will soon have the tee shirt
i needed.

ann m labeck wrote:
>
> here it is:
>
> fan club address:
>    indigo girls fan club
>    315 w. ponce de leon ave., suite 755
>    decatur, ga 30030
>    ph:(770) 333-7040
>
>    email:
>    igfan@rcam.com
>
> the email is pretty lame, but you could send 'em one with your
> address (i'd put *merchanidise* or something in the subject--
> money talks....) and/or send 'em snail mail and ask to be
>
> put on the mailing list.  they'll send you occasional updates,
> and merchandise lists.
>
> enjoy!
>
> ann
>
> --
> what a waste it is to lose one's mind or not to have a mind
> at all is being very wasteful.
>                                         -dan quayle

chords to in the weeds are posted here:

http://members.tripod.com/~dyke/intheweeds.html

thanks to heather for the lyrics!!

-liz-

hey y'all!

since i've seen 2 people ask for this publicly, i'll post it to
the whole list:

russell carter management is listed as an attorney: 404-377-9900 (didn't
know he was an attorney!)
fan line: 770-333-7040 [there is a machine to leave messages on]

email: igfan@rcam.com [warning: if you email, be prepared for a long wait
'til you get a reply]

315 west ponce de leon ste 755
decatur, ga 30030
attn: fan club

~~~activism~~~equality~~~~peace~~~~
jenny korn
__kshucks@juno.com__
thailand~alabama~boston
#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*

just thought i'd let the ani fans know that one of her songs (the one with
the bull and the china shop part in it) was in the lesbian southwest premier
of "entwined" played tonight at the austin gay and lesbian film festival.
beautiful song.

p.s. one of kd's songs and one of sophie b hawkins' songs were in it as well.
cool movie check it out.

it appears that most everyone who was interested has obtained the blue food
boot.

i would like to propose that the next boot we offer up as a list effort be
purple parrot, 1986.

i'll take the first 10 people, after that i'll need help from the list! :)

peace, harmony & indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism
  ~novitiate of suzanneglassism
   ~president, grlchasr26 fan club
***********************************************************************
"and he said, you can't buy anything.  and i said well why not?
and he said, cause you're in my front yard!
boy did i feel as white as the snow!"
-amy ray
***********************************************************************

i too must sign off for the time being. you've all been kind but
another school year is upon me as well... anyone who was in touch may
write to tjuett@artic.edu instead of gwen@mo.net to reach me in the
future. i wish you all an incredible indigo year. tricia

greetings all.

this tour date intrigues me:
september 28: traditional seminole nation, fl

i know it's probably too much to hope that i'd be able to see them two nights
in a row, but does anyone in south florida know if this show will be out on
the seminole reservation on alligator alley and if there will be tickets
going on sale. it would be too cool.

fri 29 aug 18:27 pdt gesi rovario <sammigirl1@hotmail.com> wrote:

>actually, how about neve and claire for the "young ig" and
>jennifer jason leigh and mare winningham (i didn't spell that
>right, did i?) for the present day girls?

yes, you spelled it right & "the present day girls" is a good idea...

fri 29 aug 04:22 edt mel <melsouth@mindspring.com> wrote:

>okay... i decided to add this so i could claim *sillyigc*...

>"ig: the movie" - starring: jennifer jason leigh (w brn hair) - amy
> mare winningham (w strbry/blnd) - emily

--
-- mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>

           "what a poor appearance the tales of the poets
            make stripped of the colors which music puts
            upon them, and recited in simple verse."
                - plato

on last year's honor tour, ig did a few dates on indian reservations
which were specifically for those living on the reservations.

i would hope that if ig choses to perform specifically for the native
people living in poverty on the parcels of land that the united states
gov't was so terribly generous enough to *give* them-- that non-natives
don't try to *crash the party*.

though i'm sure no one on the list would ever do something like that.
--
-- mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>

           "what a poor appearance the tales of the poets
            make stripped of the colors which music puts
            upon them, and recited in simple verse."
                - plato

jt fans: a&e's "live by request" will re-air james taylor's appearance
on sat, aug 30 at 10pm & 2am (sun) edt.

and now for more sillyigc... (& you thought that the "s" = "some") :o)

when i saw the notice about jt... i thought that he's the previous
generation's indigo boy...
and after all the talk lately about neil young's greatness & influence
on ig... i thought of neil as as indigo boy too.

james taylor = indigo boy emily
neil young = indigo boy amy

wow... can you imagine how truly horrible their voices would sound
trying to hamonize... =:o

(insomnia is a curse... it makes you actually think about such
things.)
--
-- mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>

           "what a poor appearance the tales of the poets
            make stripped of the colors which music puts
            upon them, and recited in simple verse."
                - plato

hi fellow listers!
any of you from germany? if so please drop me a line...thanks!!

mj :)
mjg333@aol.com

okay. i knew i got yer attention with that :) hey y'all, before i pack up
my schtuff up for school again, i'm gonna share a little gem i have that i
know none of ya out there have (well..uh, not this version at least ;))
okay, right now all i want to know is how many people out there are
interested, and who would wanna help me out as branch monkeys if i get
sheeetloads of responses to dub. okay? okay. :) this is what i got:

gilliard auditorium, charelston s.c. -- february 17, 1995
on 2-90 minute tapes. setlist:

cortez the killer (yeah, thats right..they opened with this :))
least complicated
3 hits
power of two
reunion
virginia woolf
dead man's hill
the wood song
fugitive
watershed
this train revised
language or the kiss
hand me downs
mystery
chickendude
galileo
jonas and ezekial
wild horses
touch me fall
closer to fine

comments:  this boot freakin rocks. high-energy concert.  its very clear,
recorded on a high-techy machine doo-hickey, and there is absolutely no
outbursts from folks sitting around that bars you from appreciating this
concert.  you can hear and understand all of the chit chat between amy and
emily...and there is a hella lot of that.  :)  imho, this boot is worth
"cortez the killer"...(rawkin rawkin rawkin with michele malone!)

another tidbit about this bootleg. the day played this concert, amy and em
spent the day filming the power of two video. the girls talk about their
video adventure before they play the song on this boot.

okay. thats it. if you are interested in this boot, lemme know. if you
can be a branch monkey for this boot, lemme know...and if anyone else out
there has a boot of this same show, lemme know :)

----sue

re the seminole stop on the tour, mel wrote:

>>on last year's honor tour, ig did a few dates on indian reservations
which were specifically for those living on the reservations.

though i'm sure no one on the list would ever do something like that. <<

now, now mel, dont get yourself all in a righteous uproar. for one thing, i
did not know those shows were non-commercial. if they are and no tickets are
sold, no one said anything about gate crashing.

for another, the seminole reservation here is very open to the community.

and lastly, i'm a journalist who covers the county where the reservation is
located, so if the ig is doing any kind of show there as a benefit, it's a
great story and one i will try to get into the paper.

so, thanks for the info, but not the tone. relax.

thanks to the wonders of modern technology half my mail inbox messages
were wiped out last night. of course this means the loss of address info
from several people i was working on boot trades with. i'm sure those
people will know who they are. please e-mail your addresses again.

guess this will teach me to make paper copies or at least better store
those addresses.

thanks,
chris b.

faye memolo <indigo@ncia.net> wrote:

>thanks to ann m labeck, we all have the address of the indigo girls fan
>club.  yes, it is the same address that is given on the liner notes in
>each cd (probably records too).  i've sent e-mail to the address with
>ann's suggested mention of the words "merchandise" and "purchase."
>haven't heard anything yet.  it's been a few day.

well, i've e-mailed the fan club several times a while back and never
heard from them.  i've also ordered a hat and it wasn't showing up, so
i tried to call them, and they give you a recording and make you leave
a message, no matter what time.  then they don't call you back.  so,
i wrote to them again, asking about my hat, and it finally arrived,
although
they were out of the one i ordered and never let me know it.  they were
apologetic when they did finally send another hat, but it was way late.
plus,
within the last 6 months, i've gotten one mailing and it was a rather old
one.
i conclude that the fan club is not very responsive.  but y'all can pass
your
own judgements from what you've experienced or will experience.

lisa

hey everybody!!

i just got to college and am interested in trading boots because i haven't
in awhile. if you're interested in my list and have stuff to trade, mail
me back. i have a decent size collection.

see ya!
rob

*********************************************
* "the flesh is strong, the spirit stronger *
* so shed your skin, baby, let it through! *
* --amy ray *
*********************************************

two questions:

did any of ya'll attend the red rocks, co concert?  if so, what did you think
of patty smith?  i personally could not believe the ig would put all of us
through something like that.  by the time she was done singing i had a
complete headache.  just my own personal opinion.

second question, i am obsessed with amy's tattoo. does anyone know where
there's a good photo of it or what it means?

thanks ya'll,
dawn

sorry to do this publically..but to those i owe mail to...sorry..i've
been "gone"...finally getting it together..
will respond when things settle down
pooh

hello guys,

i need anna hidalgo & barbara lancon to contact me regarding their ppv
copies.

anna, you money was appearently stolen in the mail. i got the registered
letter today, but no money.

barbara, i just want to let you know that i'm waiting for my copy to get
back from being converted to pal, to make you a copy.

please write,

trant

i thought patti smith was incredible - a real performer. i'm not sure if
i'd ever buy any of her albums, but i would be happy to see her perform
again. on the other hand, the other opening band (on friday) the hectics
was not so great. after about two of their songs i was ready for
something else.
adding in my 2 pennies for patti today.
-sam

on sat, 30 aug 1997, dawn manuel wrote:

> did any of ya'll attend the red rocks, co concert?  if so, what did you think
> of patty smith?  i personally could not believe the ig would put all of us
> through something like that.  by the time she was done singing i had a
> complete headache.  just my own personal opinion.

i got to meet russell carter. what a %$%#@! i was waiting outside of
the mann waiting for the girls to come out. he then decided to come out
of the stage and in a condescending manner tell everyone that the girls
weren't coming out.
me and my friend than went up and asked him if they ever come out to
meet fans. he said in an incredibly obnixous tone " not in this
lifetime".
uhhhh,some people.
ben

hi folks!

we were fortunate enough to see michelle malone play live in boise on 8/28!
it was her  last concert  for now and she said she was on her way
home....anyway, we left our wee town early thursday morning and drove 5
hours to boise.  we went to our campground, set up our tent, got ready and
then set about to find the bar she was playing in, neurolux.  as we pulled
into the parking lot, i saw a woman with a fed ex box under her arm and i
said to chris, "look, that's michelle!!"  she thought i was crazy at first
and we both decided we were letting the excitement get to our brains.  so
we went in, sat down, ordered beers and told the bartender how we'd driven
5 hours just to see mm, he said, "yeah, she's nice, you just missed her,
she was just here to drop off some cds, tshirts, and stuff..."    *oh well*

we went to eat, or rather, inhale, dinner and then ran back to
neurolux...cohen and denton opened the show (they were great, btw) and when
cohen broke his strings, michelle let him play her guitar ( the one with
the bugs bunny sticker, her other guitar had a psychedelic playboy bunny
wearing shades)! they sounded even better!!

then michelle played....she is a goddess!!  after her first song, my green
thumb, i yelled out "medicated magdalene" and she said, "who said that"
(we were sitting right up front, center...there were only about 20 people
there, $3 admission!) and pointed at me and said, "you must be the ones who
drove from nevada, i'll play anything you want, i'll even buy you some
beers!!"  well, you can imagine how happy we were :))))))) so she played a
new song, it was really cool, she played her guitar and a harmonica....then
came "blue suede" and then "medicated magdalene" our two favorites off the
album.  i think everyone thought we were crazy because nobody else knew all
the lyrics and we were the only ones singing along and totally losing
ourselves in the ecstasy of it all...what a great show!!!!!

this is the set list (not in order):
my green thumb
grace (broke her string, threw down her pick...)
the new song, she didn't say the title
blue suede
medicated magdalene (our theme song for the little town we live in)
green
a sing a long...don't know the title, we're newly converted
a quiet song...sorry we feel like losers, "like a shaker, not a mover"

we had finished our pitcher of alaskan amber by the end of the show, chris
went to the car so that we could give her the sage we brought her...we
walked up to where she was sitting, gave her the sage and she smelled it
and said "mmmm, we burn this all the time..."  the rest of the conversation
was mostly fanatical ramblings on our part and humble astonishment (if not
fear) on her part :)  she signed our cd "to rachel and chris thank you sooo
much for driving all the way!  love, m. malone 8-18-97"   we didn't have
the heart to tell her that she was ten days behind :)  we shook her hand
and thanked her profusely... *sigh*

anyway, to make long story even longer, i got the pick she threw down.  it
says michelle malone and band de soleil in circular form with a squiggle
flower in the middle...we also got all the promotional posters they
had....more on this later....she was standing at the bar talking to the
manager, i respectfully interrupted and told michelle that we ordered all
her cds through daemon records and she said, "i bet she doesn't have drag
the river"  the manager said "i must have three in the back, i'll get her
one..."  i thanked them and left them alone for a while...but silly me, i
decided to interrupt once more just to ask michelle what a devil moon
is....she thought for a moment and then quietly told me that it was like
when bad things follow you around....and i said so it's like how your past
helps you understand your present, and she said yeah...i thanked her and
stopped bugging her after that....  the manager gave us the cd "relentless"
mm with drag the river...very cool of him....

it was a night we'll both remember forever :)))

we have three promotional "beneath the devil moon" posters that we'll send
to the first three people who privately email us.  they are double sided,
one side is orange, an enlarged photo of mm singing, it says michelle
malone in black letters and has a tiny picture of the cd on the lower right
hand corner.  the other side is just like the front cover of the beneath
the devil moon cd.  they are 17"x11".  we'll send them rolled :)

thanks for reading this far!!

growing patience :)
rachel & chris
******************************************************************
"where have you been and what have you done, and why do you fearfully from
yourself run?..." michelle malone

in a message dated 97-08-29 20:41:39 edt, you write:

<< if amy and emily were cheese what kind of cheese would they be?

>>
yeah, it's silly, but i see amy as jalapeno all the way babeeeee!!!!
hot and fiery and you only want to eat more....

somebody bring me some water ;o)
cheri

has anyone out there ever been mack-trucked with emails?? <g>

okay folks, i get the picture...there are a lot of you out there that want
the s.c. boot.

you can go ahead and stop emailing me with offers of your first-born,
already-borns, cats, dogs... its quite tempting, but the only thing i want
that i need and i cant get right now are freaking ig concerts in the
midwest...namely chicago. but i digress.... <sigh>

i'm working on setting up a tree thingy...though i need a couple more dub
monkeys to make this work. :) so if you can help out to be a branch and
you havent already told me, email me and say you can help poor sue out. (put
"dub monkey" in the subject line so i know) i'll post the tree to the list
as soon as i'm done putting it together.

um. what else. uhhh....i'm forgeting something....

ohhh!!!  anyone have a tape liner program thing where one can design tape
covers and stuff??  if you've got one or can tell me where to get one..lemme
know.  but please dont send the program itself.  thanks.

----sue

*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*

"i stood without clothes, danced in the sand          o
i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned    #=={o/)
i said remember this as how it should be..."        <<                                 -- a.r.

ok group! i've filled all the requests i can do.

::::::::::tossing the ball in the air:::::::::::

who's next??????

peace, harmony & indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism
  ~novitiate of suzanneglassism
   ~president, chasr26 fan club
***********************************************************************
"and he said, you can't buy anything.  and i said well why not?
and he said, cause you're in my front yard!
boy did i feel as white as the snow!"
-amy ray
***********************************************************************

i'm not in an uproar - as for the tone - i personally know people who
would actually try to *crash* an event as special & sacred as a
performance done just for a special group - both for the experience of
being there & for the uniqueness of the boot.
--
-- mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>

           "what a poor appearance the tales of the poets
            make stripped of the colors which music puts
            upon them, and recited in simple verse."
                - plato

><< if amy and emily were cheese what kind of cheese would they be?

noooooooooooo! did someone say "cheese"? ;)

-erin

university of georgia
class of 2001

hey kind friends

the offer for the 3 promo posters is closed now....we've already contacted
the first three people :)

peace,
rachel & chris :)))))))))
******************************************************************
"where have you been and what have you done, and why do you fearfully from
yourself run?..." michelle malone

hey y'all--
i was wondering if anyone knew where to get lyrics to surfacing, as i can
not access the sm official website (but do have access to the internet.)
thanks
lauren

hello,
   i've been trying to unsubscribe for about a week now and i keep getting
rejection letters.  can someone please help me?  it would be greatly
appreciated.  thanks

kira
crandigo1@aol.com

okey-doke folks, time for some listmanaging...

a few people have been reporting problems with the digest form
of the list but for the life of me i can't figure out what the
problem might be.  i have a sneaking suspicion that it's maybe
something to do with incompatibility of mail formats and/or
incompatibility of header types, but that's just a guess.  a
very wild guess!  it could just be related to all the other
listserv problems we've been having, i really don't know.

but i'd like to hear from people who're having consistent
(ie at least one out of every two digests you get is messed
up) and current digest problems of any of the following
types:

1) digests cut off partway through
2) messages within digests lacking headers
3) messages within digests having parts missing

(fyi, the "list signature" (which begins "administrative messages
should not be sent to the list) should appear only once in each
digest, directly below the table of contents.)

if you're having any of the digest problems as described above,
or if you're having other weird things happening with your
digest (only current problems though - let's take this one step
at a time or i'll get too confused), drop me a note at
sherlyn@fl.net.au describing what sorts of problems you're having.
from there i will try to see what i can figure out.

thanks everyone,
sherlyn
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** i will be away from around september 25th to october 5th. **
"and the road leads us on, and we sing out this song -
'let's move forward, ever forward, in the heaven of it all,
let's move forward, ever forward, in the heaven of it all...'"
- karen pernick

jan monforton wrote:
>
> i thought patti smith was incredible - a real performer. i'm not sure if
> i'd ever buy any of her albums, but i would be happy to see her perform
> again.

i was rather happy to see patti.  okay, so she can't play the clarinet,
but it was so nice to see her!!  she also played "dancing barefoot,"
which is a favorite of mine.  i think that a lot of the house hadn't
heard of her, but she was a treat for those us familiar with her.

on the other hand, the other opening band (on friday) the hectics
> was not so great. after about two of their songs i was ready for
> something else.

you lasted two songs? i was ready for something else after the first.
:)

ellen

hey y'all,

i've gotten enough branches to kick this s.c boot tree into gear. the tree
info and such will be posted within the next few days.

******* you dub monkey folks will hear from me soon. ******

someone asked me what the hell a branch monkey was (aka "dub monkey") a
normal and "sane" person usually refers to such as a "branch" of the tree.
umm... well, when i was typing out the original post about the boot, i was
listening to "brass monkey" by the beastie boys....well...after 3 secs. into
the song i was screamin out "branch monkey! that funky monkey!!" and for
some reason, it has evolved into "dub monkey"

don't ask me why. its been a long ass day.

another thing. i can't seem to pinpoint the actual date of this concert.
gaillard aud. charleston s.c. someone told me 2-27-95 and another 2-7-95.
on my master it says 2-17-95.

if someone has access to past tour dates/archives whatever...lemme know
which is right. i wont have time to figure this out till next week at this
pace. you would take a load off my shoulders. thanks in advance.

tree info coming soon.

to be continued......

---sue

>--- in reference to sarah mcclockme, scott wrote:
>ummm, she's married to her guitarist (or drummer). though i guess she
>could be a switch-hitter.
>--- end of quote ---
>a switch hitter! that's pretty goldurn original, scott! personally, as
one of
>those wacky switch hitters, i prefer "one who swings both ways" or
"sits on
>both sides of the fence" or "licks both sides of the ice cream cone"
better!!!!
>
>but the actual word is bisexual.

my father frequently uses "ac/dc"......he just said it within the hor,
so that is why i bothered to throw that in. anyway.

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my father frequently uses "ac/dc"......he just said it within the hour,
so that is why i bothered to throw it in. anyway.

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i just wanted to say hello to everybody.  i'm back online again after being
off all summer.  i haven't signed on to the list yet but i plan to soon.
i've been meaning to ask if there was a boot out for the philadelphia show
at the end of may.  i was there and was hoping to have a copy as a
souvenier.  i have a few boots to trade if anyone is interested.  also they
played a song i haven't ever heard before and it was either before or after
burn all the letters, i can't really remember.  hope everything is still
cool on the list and hopefully i'll be back on in a few days.
keep it groovy,
ryan from oklahoma

i got one of those target sampler cds today at an insane discount price.
i already have one of my own, so i'll trade the cd for 2 boots (first
come, first serve). next, in the new issue of pulse (september) on pg 27
there is an ad for the honor album. it has a picture of amy and emily
that i have never seen before. it's more grunge/punk/something different
than they usually do. i like it. go to tower and check it out if you can.
if you want one and don't have access, i'll be going to tower next week
and snagging some extra copies. i could send the page to anyone who wants
to send an sase. let me know. moving on to non merchandise stuff, i heard
get out the map on the radio the other day, and it was on a station that
doesn't play shame on you (or at least i don't think it does). and
lastly, something from the indigo gods: i was wrapping those sots album
flats and i turn on the radio for some entertainment and the first song
that comes on is shame on you. it's a sign. wow. okay, enough babble from
me. write if you're interested in the cd or the picture.
all things indigo
-sam (says to mom "here's another pair of indigo" instead of "here's
another pair of socks")

for the life that was diana, princess of wales. the world has lost
a tremendous soul, quite needlessly.

secure yourself to heaven......

                          _________
amy p.                    \       /     who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
the original photo monk      \ /                --patty larkin
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ani will be on conan obrien on sept 18th

faerie kisses
heather

i could be a witch. why not? i married a fairy.

tony kushner
perestroika

my feel for you boy is decaying in front of me
like the carrion of a murdered prey
and all i want is to save you honey
or the strength to walk away

carrion
fiona apple

the sampler cd has been spoken for. i'm going to see if i can find any
more later this week.
-sam

well, mel, all i can say is that if you know people who would do that, 1)you
should give them the lecture, not me and the list, and 2) you oughta find a
better bunch of friends....

to most people, ig fans or not, list members or not, life is bigger than a
boot or a concert.

also, i'm sure native americans all over the country would appreciate your
stereotyping their reservations as pockets of poverty. some are, without a
doubt. the seminole reservation here is not. in fact, the seminoles have
quite a bit of money, regularly run television commercials touting their
contributions to the region -- which are many -- and have done much work to
reclaim the everglades. they just recently opened a million dollar museum on
their lands which will become quite the tourist attraction and which goes a
long way in preserving and showcasing their culture. they really do not need
anyone's pity.

finally, to all the people who emailed asking for me to forward any info i
find out about the show and whether it will be closed, i plan to make some
phone calls tuesday and will be happy to post the info to the list.

>>from: mel <>
subject: re: hte tour

>>i'm not in an uproar - as for the tone - i personally know >>people who
>>would actually try to *crash* an event as special & sacred
>>as a
>>performance done just for a special group - both for the >>experience of
>>being there & for the uniqueness of the boot.
--<<<

relax lisa-
i really don't appreciate your posting such personally inflammatory
comments to the list-- but since you are-- i feel, sadly, compelled to
reply. my initial response to your first post was not a *personal*
attack, contrary to what you seem to believe. and furthermore, i know
that not all reservations are not "pockets of poverty."
both of my parents were born and raised on the *only* fully incorporated
city in the united states existing entirely within an indian
reservation, salamanca, new york. i used to spend a great deal of time
there as a child-- and still return at least once a year (usually
christmas). one of my cousins is married to a seneca indian man, and
they have two children. i have seen the struggle she has faced trying to
incorporate her children's heritage into their lives. i think that is
why i felt compelled to respond the way i did to your first post to the
list regarding an ig performance at the seminole reservation in fla.
so whatever you do-- don't you *ever* accuse me of stereotyping native
americans-- i have two half-senaca second cousins whom i love dearly and
one seneca cousin-by marriage who is a great guy.
--
-- mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>

           "what a poor appearance the tales of the poets
            make stripped of the colors which music puts
            upon them, and recited in simple verse."
                - plato

hey everybody,

i have a 60 minute tape of shawn's concert (shepherd's bush empire,
london, june 1997)to offer. it's excellent quality, recorded from the
radio.

lemme know if you're interested.

claudine

this really bothers me only for the fact she was the first person i ever
wrote to (i was 7 and my teacher made me work on my cursive writing and we
did get a response from the palace...)
but the phrase i cannot get out of my mind is fugitive

"there coming for us cameras and guns, we don't know which, but we gotta run"

i'm confused---i went to a recommended mm website and found a new tour
schedule that indicated she would be appearing in chicago (yay!!) on
september 18. then i linked over to mm's official website, and they have her
listed as touring with ig on the hte tour that very same night!!??
does anyone know the latest and correctest (?) info?? thanks--robin

hey everybody...
sorry to waste list space, but i just saw ani open for bob dylan in st. paul
mn....and now i have to buy an album ;).  so what's a good one to start with?
i know she has 8 or 9 out.  i was thinking of buying the double one (living
in clip?) cause that's the newest one, right?  anyway...i'd appreciate
suggestions (email me).
thanks!!!! :o)
jen

at 09:51 am 8/31/97 -0400, you wrote:

>this really bothers me only for the fact she was the first person i ever
>wrote to (i was 7 and my teacher made me work on my cursive writing and we
>did get a response from the palace...)

it bothers me that someone gets this much press coverage simply for being
married to someone who is part of nothing more than a meaningless royal
"system."

the royalty of england, as i understand it, are just figureheads, and don't
really make many decisions affecting the direction of the country.

it's one thing to think that they simply gave her that much press coverage
because of all the work she was doing for charities and what not, but i
personally am not impressed by that fact. there are thousands of people
who probably do more than she does to assist charity, but will we ever
heard of them on tv? no. because they're not "famous."

i first heard about this only a few hours after the accident, about 1am
cdt. my first thought was a sense of regret that she was dead. not
because she was dead as much as because that will be all that we hear for
the next three weeks.

having said all of this, making myself look like a completely cold-hearted
bastard (perhaps not an entirely false description, i admit), it is a shame
she is dead, but not because she is "royalty." it is a shame because she
is a human. press coverage be damned.

doug

according to pollstar(which is usually right) - michelle malone's tour
dates:

9-10  norfolk, va       friar tucks
9-11  carrboro, nc      cat's cradle
9-13  washington, dc    american univ
9-14  camden, nj        youthfest
9-15  new york, ny      bottom line
9-16  harrisburg, pa    zembo mosque - w ig
9-19  boone, nc         appalachian st univ - w ig
9-20  blacksburg, va    burruss aud - w ig
9-21  nashville, tn     3rd & lindsley
9-22  savannah, ga      johnny mercer theater - w ig
9-25  columbia, sc      rockafella's
9-26  charleston, sc    music farm
9-27  athens, ga        tba
9-28  huntsville, al    big spring jam

plus i noticed that 2 dates have been added to ig's tour (or maybe i
just wasn't paying attn & am the last to know - which is very likely):

10-16 memphis, tn       mud island amph
10-17 pelham, al        oak mountain amph
--
        -- mel  <melsouth@mindspring.com>

           "what a poor appearance the tales of the poets
            make stripped of the colors which music puts
            upon them, and recited in simple verse."
                - plato

in a message dated 8/31/97 11:58:25 am, shawd@usit.net (doug) wrote:

<<it bothers me that someone gets this much press coverage simply for being
married to someone who is part of nothing more than a meaningless royal
"system.">>

isn't this the point???? if we (as the public) weren't so obsessed with the
fantasy of how the other half live, she wouldn't have been trying to outrun
papparazi. maybe now someone will seriously look into invoking some stalking
laws, & in the future there won't be 3 weeks worth of "press" over a
senseless death.

dee

<< relax lisa-
i really don't appreciate your posting such personally inflammatory
comments to the list.... >>

first of all i want to say this is just a general comment directed at all of
us who use the internet. i merely included a partial quote from mel because
it is the latest example of hurt feelings...

every time this kind of thing happens on a mail list it makes me so sad.
there seem to be many heated arguments and hurt feelings that occur simply
because we are speaking to one another without the benefit of seeing each
other face to face and actually hearing someone's tone of voice or seeing
their facial expressions. it is so easy to misinterpret what someone has
said or to perceive a general statement as a personal attack.

the internet is a wonderful thing most of the time, but once in a while i
think it divides us more often than it brings us together. if only we could
actually see/hear each other over the internet half of our arguments would
never take place. <sigh>

just a thought
cheers!
kathleen kef1330@aol.com (using her business account--twkennel-- at the
moment, please don't post to it. thanks)

hey everyone...

i was wondering if anyone has any of these shows on tape and would be willing
to trade....

4/21/90 merriweather post pavilion, columbia md
11/27/90 painters mill baltimore, md
6/5/91 wolftrap farm park, vienna va
11/23/92 meyerhoff symphony hall, baltimore md
1/19/93 voters for choice, constitution hall, washington dc
10/7/91 beacon theatre nyc

so if anybody has any of these shows and would be willing to work out a
little trade with me, it would be much appreciated.

peace
sasha

hey y'all!  i am bootless and wish to start a collection.  i have five
starter kits and would be willing to trade for just about anything.  anyone
interested?  please email me privately.  thanks a lot!

susan

hey group, i also have some extra starter kits that i would be willing
to trade. i don't have a big boot collection, so i would be willing to
trade for those. or anything else of intrest. please e-mail me
privately.

thanks
jen

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>>having said all of this, making myself look like a completely
>>cold-hearted
>>bastard (perhaps not an entirely false description, i admit), >>it is a
shame
>>she is dead, but not because she is "royalty." it is a shame because she
is a human. press coverage be damned.

in a note dated aug 31 doug writes:

interesting thoughts on your part... but i think that the point that is
missing here is besides being human, she was a hard working humanitarian.
yeah, so she was married to a royal.. but hey guess what.. she isn't
anymore.. and she is still doing more charitable work than certainly i can
do.. .. yes even if it only means lending that royal name..
i gotta wonder that if the same thing happened to amy or emily, people here
on this list would be planning a pilgrimage of some sort. or at least
complaining about the lack of press coverage.
we all know the hassles of papparrazi.. and i would think those here would be
a little more sensitive to hmmmm i don't know the people around them.. royal
or not.

that's my interesting thought for the day.

tune
who's been covering the royal accident for 14 hours now and may sound a
little cranky from lack of sleep.

>
> it's one thing to think that they simply gave her that much press coverage
> because of all the work she was doing for charities and what not, but i
> personally am not impressed by that fact. there are thousands of people
> who probably do more than she does to assist charity, but will we ever
> heard of them on tv? no. because they're not "famous."

conversely, she did worlds of good for many.  how many of us would have
much awareness of the problem of landmines if not for her?  she
was also one of the first to treat hiv patients as people nd not
as lab specimens needing gloves to be handled.  she dispelled myths
about leprosy.  she brought attention to many other issues.  instead
of letting a closet full of clothes accumulate dust, she donated many
dresses to charity auction, a suggestion given to her by her son
whom she had been raising to be aware of the disadvantaged.  she was not
a rich person who insulated herself from the world.  on the contrary,
she got invlved in the world.  this is something far too few poeple of
any class do.

> having said all of this, making myself look like a completely cold-hearted
> bastard (perhaps not an entirely false description, i admit), it is a shame
> she is dead, but not because she is "royalty." it is a shame because she
> is a human. press coverage be damned.

her loss is a shame because she did a lot of very good work in this
world, and her death was a result of a warped press' desire to pay
mega amounts of money to get public people in private moments.
stalkerazzi photographers, after tha almighty dollar, pushed things to
the ultimate limit. it is equally tragic that innocennt poeple,
the chauffeur and hte bodyguard, also lost life and sustained injury.

let me ask you this, since you are on this list: if, goddess forbid,
it had been amy or emily that had gone this way, would you feel
differently? why?

dear list

i see some members are getting hot under the collar over the amount of
'press' created about the our royal family.
i like many people around the world have been shocked and, well, stunned
is the nearest thing i can get to it, by what has happened. sure there
have been times when the public airing of dirty linen was just
sickening. i can think of few events in my life that have struck home to
so many people, i turned to bbc radio and tv which have given diana's
death total coverage, to the exclusion of normal sunday routine. this is
not the kind of intrusive coverage that the tabloid press inflicts on
such celebrities, it was done quite tastefully and with a genuine
sadness that you could feel coming from the reporters and anchor people.
you could see the shock in the faces of these people who's profession it
is to have an emotional detachment from disasters and sad news.
sorry to go on so, but had to share.

diana will be in my prayers tonight, and also dodi fayed and the dead
chauffeur.

andrew

sign-on indigo girls

i find myself unable to not contribute to this discussion that will, no
doubt, end like so many here have with a flurry pleas from others begging
us to limit ourselves to igc. as bubbles says on ab fab, saw-ray.

i think what is truly remarkable about di, who i have never been interested
in before now, is how she has used the fame that was given to her.  she did
not create the royal family in england, she didn't create our obsession
with "famous" people, and she didn't create the crazed papparazi.  it was
there before she was.  when she came into it, tough, she learned to use it
in a way that would benefit many people.  i think it is truly remarkable to
take a strange and convoluted situation and squeeze worlds of good out of
it, which is what she did.  it is far beyond making lemonade out of lemons,
but definitely in the same vein.  we have much to learn from her legacy.

margaret

hey! this is my first posting, although i've been on the list for a couple
of weeks. maybe i'm shy, but probably its that i'm new to the whole
computer thing.

i would be ever so greatfully indebted if someone, anyone would be willing
to send me a boot of mm, as i am planning on going to the show in
blacksburg (i'm a tech student and get first dibs at tickets, if anyone is
looking!!) i am completely unfamiliar with mm and would love to hear some
of her stuff beforehand.

i am also comletely new to the bootleg thang, so i need some guideance.

i would also like a bootleg of the mount holyoke college show on march 12,
1997, as i was there with someone special and would love to relive some
memories! at this particular show, they started the evening by playing the
sots album from start to finish (this was a month and a half before the new
album came out) and then did their "old standbys."

amy also did this great song, i don't know what the name of it was, but
some of the lyrics at the beginning were "anorexic girls on the street."
very bold, very taboo, i loved it.

anyway, private e-mail me if you can be of any assistance to me at all, i
would be forever indebted.

carry on,

nickleby.
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
*  "it's allright if you hate that way,     *
*  hate me 'cause i'm different,            *
*  hate me 'cause i'm gay.                  *
*  truth of the matter come around one day, *
*  so it's allright."                       *
*               -  emily sailers            *
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

i found doug's feelings a bit peculiar.  famous people lending their names
and visability to charitable causes is so commonplace it hardly seems worthy
of anger!   i would feel safe to assume then, that others who feel that way,
must also think the indigo girls charity work is somewhat frivolous.  amy and
emily have often stated that charity concerts and benefits they participate
in are for causes they strongly support.  they also have said that by lending
their time and names to the cause, they hope to garner increased recognition
for the charity and to encourage others to lend their support.  diana lived
her life that way.  the indigo girls have also chosen that path.  yes, they
all get more attention than you or i would if we were to hold a benefit.  but
who cares!!!  is that important?   there was something about diana and her
passion that i found enticing.  it is a horrible tragedy that she died;  not
only as a famous person, but as a mother, a sister, a friend, and a woman.

i really need a copy of this boot too!!!!  i loved this concert and it turned
out to be one of the best memories of my summer!  i want to remember it!  i
don't have any ig boots, but would pay anyhting for this boot!  i also have
tons of phish boots if anybody is interested!

thanks y'all,
kevin lole (stewpot3@aol.com)

according to michelle malone's home page
(http://www.hidwater.com/mm/mmhome.html)  - there is another new hte date.
  but it isn't listed on any of the normal web sites, and it has not been on
any of the sites in the past.  is it possible this is a private show?

september 18, 1997: (honor) cherokee nation, asheville nc

if anyone has any information on this date, can you please email me?
thanks!!

lisa

this just in:

the indigo girls will be playing ryman auditorium in nashville, tn on oct
15th. advertisements, or at least the one in the aug 31 tennessean
newspaper said that the show is at starwood amphitheatre, but evidently the
girls changed their minds at the last minute and wanted a more intimate
location.

have been unable to find anything on the internet about this date, but i
believe everything i read in the newspapers. :)

my apologies if this is old information.

doug

i have a friend thatsent a copy of "let it be me" to diana, and got a
letter back saying that she liked the song a great deal, and even had a bit
in it where she took lines from the song and said what it meant to her. she
was an angel, and as my grandfather used to say, sometimes god calls his
favorite angels home first. in closing, a few lines that make me think of
diana......she really did shine her life like a light.

"a distant nation, my community, a street person, my responsibility, if i
have a care in the world i have a gift to bring"
"i've seen the kingdoms blow like ashes in the winds of change, but the
power of truth is the fuel for the flame, so the darker the ages get,
there's a stronger beacon yet"
and most ironically..
"they're coming for us, cameras or guns, we don't know which, but we gotta
run, this is not what i bargained for"
in diana's memory, i ask that you play "the girl with the weight of the
world in her hands" and say a little prayer, that diana's spirit may pass
safely into heaven tonight.

krista d. paul

i have the latest issue of honor the earth news. it has all the hte tour
dates on it as follows:

9/7 -- st regis mohawk community of akwesane, ny
9/8 -- buffalo ny
9/10 -- albany ny
9/10 -- albany ny
9/12 -- amhearst ma
9/13 -- lweiston me
9/14 -- penobscot nation me
9/15 -- poughkeepsie ny
9/16 -- harrisburg pa
9/18 -- eastern cherokee nation nc
9/19 -- boone nc
9/20 -- blacksburg va
9/21 -- columbia sc
9/22 -- savannah ga
9/24 -- washington dc
9/25 -- jacksonville fl
9/26 -- tampa fl
9/27 -- west palm beach fl
9/28 -- traditional seminole nation fl
9/30 -- las vegas nv
10/2 -- missoula mt

hope this helps everyone who been asking about hte and unconfirmed dates.
---sue

hi.  i've never recorded a bootleg of a concert before, but i am going
to an ig concert in a few weeks and would like to try.  could anyone
give me any advice, tips, etc. including what kind of recorder most
people use to bootleg?  i'm guessing a small recorder you can sneak
in... any info you can give me will be greatly appreciated.
thank you so much.

take care,
sharon

hi. i saddly missed the hard rock live ig special on vh1 on the 24th.
does anyone know if it will be re-aired again any time soon? vh1 is
good at playing those kind of things several times. if anyone finds out,
please let me know.

thanks,
sharon

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