lifeblood: listlogs: 1997-10a


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date:         tue, 30 sep 1997 22:23:04 -0500
reply-to:     "lisa m. schreihart" <lschreihart@juno.com>
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from:         "lisa m. schreihart" <lschreihart@juno.com>
subject:      nigc - pamela means - wow!!!

hey y'all, please read about this great
artist!!!

a bit o' background.....
i was an audio/video technician at marquette u.
as an undergrad.  my responsibilities included
setting up the audio equipment (speakers, mics,
monitors, mixing board, etc.) for concerts that
were held in the student union and university
theaters.  back in 93, a wonderful folk artist
named pamela means played in our coffeehouse,
and i got to set up for her.  only about 15 people
were there to listen to her, but as a sat there, i
could only think, "wow!  this woman is going
to go places!"   i caught her again at summerfest
in milwaukee in 94 and thought the same thing.
at that time, she may have just announced her
first cd that was in the works.  after that, i lost
track of her.

3 years later (just about a week ago), i finally found
pamela's 1994 cd, "bone spurs", advertised in
ladyslipper's most recent e-mail notification of
new releases.  of course this isn't a new release,
but they must just have gotten it in stock.  i bought
it immediately and received it yesterday.  people,
this cd has not left my cd player... at work, at home...
for the entire day today.  pamela is like an
acoustic michelle malone...very strong and dynamic
voice.  i also liken her guitar sound to wendy
bucklew and caroline aiken.  she is awesome!
and a highlight of the cd.......drum roll please.....
she plays a song live with ani difranco.  the two
of them bear a resemblance in their writing as
well as guitar playing.   yep, pamela has
gone places...that's for sure!  the entire cd is
awesome!!!!  i'd highly recommend it!

does anyone know if pamela released a cd after "bone
spurs"?  1994 is a loooong time ago.  i certainly
hope she is still out there getting big.  trust me
on this one, y'all.  have i ever failed you yet???  (oh,
no need to answer that!  :)

lisa

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 00:17:07 -0400
reply-to:     mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>
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from:         mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>
subject:      re: (nigc) janeane garofalo week
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oh, pooh (no, not you, pooh) - oh, shit...

janeane isn't on leno - instead it's one of those judd people - ashley,
the young girly one - not wyyyyynoooonnnaa, who would make a great dyke
- she already has the harley...

woe is me...   :o(
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date:         tue, 30 sep 1997 23:35:28 -0700
reply-to:     suzanne glass <suzanneglass@geocities.com>
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from:         suzanne glass <suzanneglass@geocities.com>
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hey tig,
can i have a measly "opening for the opening act" slot at one of your
house concerts?!!?

we're *all* dreaming now! ;)

suzanne
>
> jan 19, 1998  pensacola, fl civic center. opening act: lift (my other
> goddesses - waving to julie c.  :)  )
>
> jan 20, 1998 private party at tigger's house, specifically to wish tigger a
> happy 20th birthday.  private concert for myself and 20 or so of my closest
> friends.... the bidding will start at $400  :)
>
> jan 21 1998 pensacola bayfront auditorium opening act: gerard mchugh (my
> god!!!)
>
> jan 22 1998 another private party at tigger's house cause we didn't have
> enough fun the first time.
>
> did i mention they'll be bunking at my house this whole time span?

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 00:55:17 -0500
reply-to:     angela sasser <drsasser@london2.skn.net>
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from:         angela sasser <drsasser@london2.skn.net>
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hello everybody.
i had to leave the list for awhile and that was twenty months ago...
(okay maybe not that long) but i hope a few people remember me.
i actually did post a few times.  well anyway....
is it me, or is there a thread about fantasy dates (as in, people to date)
going around.  well, if there's not, too bad, because i'm going to go for it
anyway.


angie's fantasy people to date:

1.  the guy who plays the mad-hatter on that kid's tv show "adventures in
wonderland"

2.  all trumpet players (okay, maybe a few exceptions)

3.  emily's pants (the one's that she worn in some little picture i saw in
rolling stone last month)

4.  shawn colvin's guitar.

5.  amy ray's tatoo of a hand on her arm.


okay, so maybe all the things i want to date aren't people, but they have
something to do with some really neat people anyway.  it's kind of
interesting to picture dating a tatoo...
i thought i would just share my twisted romantic fantasies with someone.

love
angie

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 01:10:41 -0400
reply-to:     mmedido@aol.com
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from:         mmedido@aol.com
subject:      re: tampa concert...

oh good lord no...
not the standing or sitting at concerts thing again.
or is this kinda like the dream sequence on dallas ?
~it was alll just a horrible shower ~~~~~
;)
stop making sense !
claireeepoo

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 03:34:46 -0400
reply-to:     xg1rl@aol.com
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subject:      re: eugene plea

in a message dated 97-09-30 10:45:39 edt, you write:

<< is the eugene tape tree jinxed or something? >>

everything having to do with the city of eugene is jinxed! :)

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 01:25:26 -0700
reply-to:     john miller <jmiller@wdl.lmco.com>
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from:         john miller <jmiller@wdl.lmco.com>
subject:      re: nigc - pamela means - wow!!!
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lisa m. schreihart <lschreihart@juno.com> wrote about pamela means:

>hey y'all, please read about this great artist!!!

i'm so glad to see pamela means mentioned here again.

>3 years later (just about a week ago), i finally found pamela's
>1994 cd, "bone spurs", advertised in ladyslipper's most recent
>e-mail notification of new releases.

great to see her get the ladyslipper exposure... word of her music has
been mostly word-of-mouth until now, though she's fairly well-known in
the boston folk circuit.

>does anyone know if pamela released a cd after "bone spurs"?

nothing released since, but she has a 1992 cassette 'seven romans'
and a 1993 video 'up to here'... for info:

    wirl records
    po box 913
    cambridge ma 02140
    617/628-9303

>i certainly hope she is still out there getting big.

yes, she's moved from the milwaukee/chicago folk scene to a very active
boston/ny/new england folk scene... she's playing over a dozen dates
this month in ny/ct/mass... those of you in boston, oct 27 can see/hear
jennifer kimball (who formerly paired with jonatha brooke as the other
voice of 'the story') open for pamela means at plough & stars, cambridge.

>trust me on this one, y'all.

i concur... was turned on to her by a friend last year and i've
been raving about the cd ever since... i'd love to see her live,
and i think many here might like her music.

john miller   <jmiller@wdl.lmco.com>
san jose ca

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 06:54:58 -0400
reply-to:     mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>
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hey, y'all-

well, not all, but for a few days there all those: "i'd love"'s & "i'd
like"'s & "i want"'s & "send me the lesbians!"'s & "could you"'s &
"would you"'s & "may i"'s & "can i"'s & "yahoo!!"'s & "i'll pay you"'s &
"kindly please"'s & "please"; "please"; "pweese"'s....

i do declare, i felt just like the belle of the ball and my dance card
just overflowed with y'all's bytes. oh, my, i believe my face has turned
quite scarlett...

sorry... that's enough of that crappola...

questions:
        1. did everyone who ask; receive?
        2. was it received at the correct addy? - some folks requested
           that it be sent to a different addy - i tried to catch them
           all but missed one or two...
        3. did anyone have any problems connecting with the long url
           which they weren't able to resolve?
        4. did anyone who asked for both; receive both? and who asked
           for only one; receive the *correct* one?
        5. did everyone who received "map.l" - get both the map url
           *and* part 2?
        6. does anyone have any questions about the map site - yes, you
           can zoom in & out & move around. you can actually zoom far
           out & zoom in on your own street across the country. print
           any map; change it to b&w. you can ask it to show you the
           route from any address to any other address; in detail,
           which you can then print out. but please save the e-mail
           with the url.
        7. you can sign up for you own accounts - with which you can
           then play to your heart's content.

                < http://www.mapsonus.com >  (usa only, makes labels)

                < http://www.mapquest.com >  (int'l, my pref)

peace... (and dare i say it again... sorry for wasting bandwidth)  ;o)
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           "what a poor appearance the tales of the poets
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            upon them, and recited in simple verse."
                - plato

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 12:59:48 +0000
reply-to:     bonj1_95@worc.ac.uk
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from:         john bond <bonj1_95@worc.ac.uk>
organization: worcester college of higher edu.
subject:      uk ani info (nigc)

it's a couple of days late, but i only got the info today,
sooooo.....

cooking vinyl have finally made "not so soft" and "puddle dive"
by ani availible in the uk :)!!!!!

just thought i'd tell all the uk listees!!! (actually the albums are
now availible all over europe as well.....)

john.

"over my dead body....
ok, over my strong opinion..."

iolalus (hercules)

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 08:53:07 -0400
reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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from:         deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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sabrina d. parker <seca2girl@aol.com> wrote:
>yep.  i think it's 4.5.  i have it.  it was sort of expensive, but i think
it
>was worth it.

i'm curious why you think so.  it's just a sampler of album tracks, with art
work (a bird) that most people seem to hate, and a teeny-tiny picture of ig
on the back of the skimpy liner notes.  what do you especially like about
it?

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 08:58:33 -0400
reply-to:     kef1330@aol.com
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from:         kathleen flaherty <kef1330@aol.com>
subject:      re: (nigc) janeane garofalo week

in a message dated 97-09-30 22:34:11 edt, mel writes:

<< [hey look sigc! - dream dates: amy ray, helen hunt, jennifer jason
leigh, janeane garofalo, the bartender who worked at crazy nanny's
several years ago who always let me flirt with her but who had a
girlfriend.] >>


hey mel, how come i'm not on your list?!
jeez, i feel so betrayed <sigh>

cheers!
kathleen   kef1330@aol.com

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 09:11:33 -0400
reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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subject:      re: pamela means - wow!!! (nigc, but there is adc)
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lisa m. schreihart <lschreihart@juno.com> wrote to the indigo girls list:

>3 years later (just about a week ago), i finally found
>pamela's 1994 cd, "bone spurs", advertised in
>ladyslipper's most recent e-mail notification of
>new releases.

i got the same notification, and i bought it based on the ladyslipper
description, and the fact that ani makes a guest appearance (and a very
prominent one - a must for ani collectors).

>of course this isn't a new release,
>but they must just have gotten it in stock.  i bought
>it immediately and received it yesterday.  people,
>this cd has not left my cd player... at work, at home...
>for the entire day today.  pamela is like an
>acoustic michelle malone...very strong and dynamic
>voice.  i also liken her guitar sound to wendy
>bucklew and caroline aiken.  she is awesome!

i heard all the styles you did, plus some aimee mann-like vocals.  her style
varies, but mostly what i would call "acoustic rock."  she doesn't rock like
ani, but she's not too far off, and i did hear some ani-like guitar
thrashing!

>and a highlight of the cd.......drum roll please.....
>she plays a song live with ani difranco.  the two
>of them bear a resemblance in their writing as
>well as guitar playing.   yep, pamela has
>gone places...that's for sure!  the entire cd is
>awesome!!!!  i'd highly recommend it!

me too, it's excellent!  see if it's at the ladyslipper web site
<http://www.ladyslipper.com> yet, and if not order it from
orders@ladyslipper.com.

>does anyone know if pamela released a cd after "bone
>spurs"?

or even before...

>1994 is a loooong time ago.  i certainly
>hope she is still out there getting big.  trust me
>on this one, y'all.  have i ever failed you yet???  (oh,
>no need to answer that!  :)
>
>lisa

sorry for the excessive quoting, but i'm bcc:'ing this to the ani list (go
to my ani page for info on how to subscribe) and i don't want those folks to
be lost!

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 09:37:48 -0400
reply-to:     michael cunningham <nypro.mcunningham@sdps.org>
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from:         michael cunningham <nypro.mcunningham@sdps.org>
subject:      a great quote i just saw for a list shirt. -reply
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i like that idea about a "patch of blue/indigo", and i like the crayons
(indigo) and i like a lot of the other stuff too......

my question, is considering these copyright laws <bleeeck> - how about
a quote from a song from their early days - when they were
independent, and then we wouldn't be breaking any laws or too much
red tape (maybe we'll just have to ask a+e about this)...
examples:
"i thank the lord, for the (list) people i have found"
(get it - the list people i have found!)(mlatmh)
"i've (we've) been wild all my days"
(we're all crazy people anyway-right?)(pc)

also, just imho - i don't think the list addy ahould be on the shirt,
someone else said something like this - & i just don't think it's necessary,
and if people want to find out about the list they certainly will.........

just wondering.....and my .02 to a good idea that can certainly work -
if there's a bunch of hands working together....!!!!!!!...   8-)
mkc
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"after three days of doing this...i have to sit
and watch cartoons for a day."-amy ray
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>>> "lisa m. schreihart" <lschreihart@juno.com> 09/30/97 11:06pm
>>>
hey kfs,....
"through every storm and the darkness of
night comes a patch of blue."

(we could change the "blue" to "indigo", or not.
i see this quote in script letters amongst fluffy clouds in
a light blue sky, maybe with a rainbow
sweeping through it.)

back:

indigo-girls@netspace.org
>>>

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 06:45:07 pdt
reply-to:     urvashi pitre <urvashi@hotmail.com>
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ya'll, does anyone know anything about a new cd jewel is about to
release that has stuff off her "pieces of you" plus some unreleased
songs? i heard this rumor somewhere and have been holding off on buying
her cd and my gf and i are now fighting over the one jewel cd we possess
:-d would appreciate info.

here was my fantasy lilith-like list which some of you actually got to
experience for the most part!!:
1. ig
2. tracy chapman
3. joan osborne
4. jewel
5. joan baez
6. michelle malone

as for my other fantasy list:
1. amy ray
2. amy ray
3. amy ray :-)


urvashi :-)


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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 10:01:16 -0400
reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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ack!  the proper address for ladyslipper is <http://www.ladyslipper.org>,
not .com!  sorry!

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 15:35:07 utc
reply-to:     kate blackmon <kblackmon@lbs.ac.uk>
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from:         kate blackmon <kblackmon@lbs.ac.uk>
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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 30 sep 1997 to 1 oct 1997 - special is
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hi deb ---
>
> sabrina d. parker <seca2girl@aol.com> wrote:
> >yep.  i think it's 4.5.  i have it.  it was sort of expensive, but i think
> it
> >was worth it.
>
> i'm curious why you think so.  it's just a sampler of album tracks, with art
> work (a bird) that most people seem to hate, and a teeny-tiny picture of ig
> on the back of the skimpy liner notes.  what do you especially like about
> it?
>
that we only have to pay regular cd prices and you have to pay
import? <g>

[valid only for uk residents and their dependents.]
kate

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 10:27:47 -0400
reply-to:     elizabeth skipper <skippeec@muohio.edu>
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from:         elizabeth skipper <skippeec@muohio.edu>
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thanks everybody,
i know now that the answer to my geology question is el nino.  especially,
thank you to rosemary who even provided sources to back up her response :)
thanks y'all - i know i can always find the answer to any question i can
come up with on list.  have a great wednesday (and the rest of the week
too).

elizabeth

visit my web page: http://miavx1.muohio.edu/~skippeec,
but don't make fun of it
~~~
"i don't have a type.  it took me this long to narrow it
down to a gender."
-ellen

"thank you for the wisdom the knowing from inside
and thank you for the comfort only a woman can provide
no man can ever know the dance between two women
love can't be stronger than between two strong women
we can dance... my lady... may i have this dance?
thank you for the strength without a need for power"
-jewel

"i've crossed the last line
from where i can't return
where every step i took in faith
betrayed me
and led me from my home"
-sarah mclachlan

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 09:52:09 -0500
reply-to:     "linda m. mcdaniel" <lmcdanie@txfund.com>
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subject:      florida shows
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i am coming out of lurking to  comment on the florida shows this past
weekend.  we flew down to tampa from
austin to support the honor the earth tour.  as already reported the tampa
show was great w/just the 2 of them.  the
crowd was really into it and i thought the place would go nuts, when they
realized amy was playing romeo & juliet.  she had
said previously she had to re-learn it - so i guess she did that while on
the hte tour.   saturday's show in west palm was
just as good - if not better because sue & i had second row seats. .  again
the crowd was into it - and the girls never sounded
better.  it was nice to here some more old stuff and less concentration on
the shame on you cd.  anyway the real point to my
comment is something i witnessed at the show.  in the part where amy &
emily come into the audience to collect political action cards , i was on
amy's side and was standing at  the end of my row waiting to hand her our
cards.  just as amy was walking toward me - some idiot comes rushing up,
grabs amy very aggressively by the neck & tries to pull her toward her.
the look of horror on amy's face was very apparent.  she threw up her
hands,  jerked away and side stepped about 3 rows up before stopping and
resuming collecting cards.  it all happened so fast, i was just left
standing there w/my  cards still in my hand.  the girl disappeared into the
crowd before i could slap her.  i'm sorry being a fan is one thing, but
trying to  invade someone like that was totally un-cool.  i know people can
get caught up in the moment - but  amy & emily were out there trying to
greet the people and share their beliefs in the what they are doing for the
indian people and the environment.   they do not deserve to be treated with
such disrespect.  people like that can  make entertainers afraid to have
contact with the public & ruin things for everyone .   if that chick is on
the list - all i can say is shame on you.  just had to comment on that
event - i found it to be very upsetting.  who knows how many others have
tried such.   back to lurking.

linda & sue

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 11:10:27 -0400
reply-to:     "brendan m. white" <bmwt@bullwinkle.pas.rochester.edu>
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it's been that kind of week, and i could really use some indigo cheer in the
form of new music. my collection isnt very large, but would anyone be willing to
do some trading?  i'd kill for real early stuff, or anything from upstate ny
this tour (canandagua, buffalo, syracuse).  so, would anyone like to help make a
lonely heart happy again ?

i have:

nothing to hide- june, 94 nyc
newport 96
no curfews
in with the out crowd

thanks,

-brendan
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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 10:29:25 -0500
reply-to:     deb reiser <dreiser@wi.net>
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from:         deb reiser <dreiser@wi.net>
subject:      re: a great quote i just saw for a list shirt.
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at 09:37 am 10/1/97 -0400, michael cunningham wrote:
>i like that idea about a "patch of blue/indigo", and i like the crayons
>(indigo) and i like a lot of the other stuff too......
>
>my question, is considering these copyright laws <bleeeck> - how about
>a quote from a song from their early days - when they were
>independent, and then we wouldn't be breaking any laws or too much
>red tape (maybe we'll just have to ask a+e about this)...

doesn't matter if it's a new song or old song of theirs. a work is
copyrighted the moment it is created and that copyright lasts for a set
amount of years past the death of the author. it's really type of work
dependent, by it's safe to assume that all of amy and emily's writings will
be protected for at least 50 years past their deaths.

and i hate to bore you all with the details, but copyright law just doesn't
apply to songs and such. even an email is copyrighted the moment you write
it. we're not just talking works that say "copyright [date] by [author's
name]".

>also, just imho - i don't think the list addy ahould be on the shirt,
>someone else said something like this - & i just don't think it's necessary,
>and if people want to find out about the list they certainly will.........

but the whole point of this is that it's supposed to be a _list_ shirt. we
can't be producing an _indigo girls_ shirt.

personally i like the quote lisa suggested. i feel it captures the spirit
of the music and the effect it has had on many of us. but too be honest,
i'm not too crazy about the clouds (sorry lisa).

deb

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 11:48:41 -0400
reply-to:     michael cunningham <nypro.mcunningham@sdps.org>
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about using old lyrics for a list shirt:

so are all their works and all their songs under rcm, because they
now are under contract to that organization?  i bring this up because mr.
carter flamed a listee about the lyrics being used on a shirt - and i
completely understand this is wrong to use someone else's lyrics from
an epic release or whatever...   but, i just think an independent release
has only been copyrighted by the person who wrote it: amy & emily (and
not rcm), and therefore using those lyrics would only infringe on their
(a+e) rights and would have nothing to do with russel carter.

i'm trying to side-step the russell carter problem somehow, about using
lyrics - just like how we might use song titles instead of actual lyrics
(gotm...etc..).....   and also, the older lyrics are more appealing to me,
b/c only the more die-hard fans (us!!) will know what they mean... 8-)

am i just a little bit right, or am a not even in the same galaxy on this
one.....
mkc
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"after three days of doing this...i have to sit
and watch cartoons for a day."-amy ray
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>>>>>>>>>>>>dreiser...
doesn't matter if it's a new song or old song of theirs. a work is
copyrighted the moment it is created and that copyright lasts for a set
amount of years past the death of the author. it's really type of work
dependent, by it's safe to assume that all of amy and emily's writings will
be protected for at least 50 years past their deaths.

and i hate to bore you all with the details, but copyright law just doesn't
apply to songs and such. even an email is copyrighted the moment you
write
it. we're not just talking works that say "copyright [date] by [author's
name]".
>>>>>>>>>>>

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 11:54:47 -0400
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hey...

anybody know anything about the nov 15th concert at the u of
dayton?????   i just saw it on pollstar and am freaking out because i go
to ud and i figured we were  too catholic, conservative, etc to get the
girls...anyway, anybody know the on-sale date, etc?  i've gotta get
tix!  btw, are there any ud/wright state/etc students on the list?

thanks,
amy

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 11:54:33 -0400
reply-to:     kriskoam@flyernet.udayton.edu
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hey...

anybody know anything about the nov 15th concert at the u of
dayton?????   i just saw it on pollstar and am freaking out because i go
to ud and i figured we were was to catholic, conservative, etc to get
the girls...anyway, anybody know the on-sale date, etc?  i've gotta get
tix!  btw, are there any ud/wright state/etc students on the list?

thanks,
amy

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 12:22:37 -0500
reply-to:     deb reiser <dreiser@wi.net>
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subject:      re: a great quote i just saw for a list shirt.
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at 11:48 am 10/1/97 -0400, michael cunningham wrote:
>about using old lyrics for a list shirt:
>
>so are all their works and all their songs under rcm, because they
>now are under contract to that organization?  i bring this up because mr.
>carter flamed a listee about the lyrics being used on a shirt - and i
>completely understand this is wrong to use someone else's lyrics from
>an epic release or whatever...   but, i just think an independent release
>has only been copyrighted by the person who wrote it: amy & emily (and
>not rcm), and therefore using those lyrics would only infringe on their
>(a+e) rights and would have nothing to do with russel carter.

it's not just rcam, it's epic. it's my understanding that much of their
earlier work is held by them. at least that's what amy alludes to in the
stomp and stammer interview from may of this year. she specifically says
that epic holds the license for the ep.

but let me clear one thing up because i was the one who dealt with rc last
year about the list shirts. i approached him at the hampton beach show
because i had a couple of shirts for amy and emily. i had a written a
letter to them that explained what the shirts were all about and i merely
asked if he could get the shirts to them. he was at first taken aback by
the project but that may have been more because he didn't know me.
fortunately i was sitting with some folks who he did know so that helped
things. we ended up talking some; he explained his concerns about using
lyrics and such, legally and otherwise, and said we just can't do it (even
though i clearly gave credit to ig). he did offer that amy and emily
weren't going to be upset that we used lyrics. he said that in general they
just don't care about that kind of stuff but that it's his role to do so.
as a matter of fact, word is that a&e liked the shirts. a listee at another
show asked them to sign her list shirt and amy said she knew all about the
shirts and thought they were "cool". but as long as they are under
contract, in a way it really doesn't matter what they think about stuff
like this. and as amy has shown herself, even her seemingly carefree
attitude about things of this nature has its limit.

in the perfect world it would be cool if ig and their management had an
interest in getting involved with this list. that's the case with other
lists. i know the live list, for instance, was actually started by the
band's management and when a list shirt was requested, their designers
created one just for the list members. but for whatever reason, that just
isn't the case here. until that happens, we really should take care in not
doing anything to piss them off. usurping rc then, doesn't seem like such a
good idea.

we have a lot of creative folks around here. there are so many original
projects that can be done. we can play up our sense of community and relate
it to our fave duo in a original manner. if you want a shirt with lyrics on
it, suggest it to ig's publicist or to rcam. that's were stuff like that
should come from, not list members.

deb

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 10:33:54 -0700
reply-to:     john miller <jmiller@wdl.lmco.com>
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urvashi pitre <urvashi@hotmail.com> asked about jewel:

>ya'll, does anyone know anything about a new cd jewel is about to
>release that has stuff off her "pieces of you" plus some unreleased
>songs? i heard this rumor somewhere

even the 'reliable' rumors about her new cd have changed recently.

current plan is mid-98 release tentatively entitled 'fristz creek store'.
her earliest scheduled studio time is currently feb/mar 98... most songs
are newly written, but some may have been heard live during recent shows.

>and have been holding off on buying her cd

i don't think the new cd has any songs from 'pieces of you'.

there are also scheduled collaborations/tributes with new jewel tracks:
   1. she contributed vocals on several songs for steve poltz's new solo
      album, expected to be released on mercury in the next few months.
   2. she's also scheduled for a 'you make lovin fun' track on an planned
      fleetwood mac tribute cd, and a 'yet to be named' track for planned
      creedence clearwater revival tribute cd.

>and my gf and i are now fighting over the one jewel cd we posses

now you two play nice, y'hear? :)

john miller   <jmiller@wdl.lmco.com>
san jose ca

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 13:34:56 -0400
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hi all!

this is another note to let anyone in need of a geneseo ticket to get in
touch
with me quick.  i have a connection who can get up to 4 tickets herself
and is
willing too find friend if there are still people who need more.  so
e-mail me
and let me know how many you are going to want, and then i'll give you
her e-mail
address and you can take it from there.

may you all have a wonderful wednesdays!

marivel
marivel@umich.edu

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 12:30:20 -0400
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is it even possible to suck the life out of this tee shirt idea anymore?

who ever started this idea is never going to get  approval from rc nor
the moral consensus of this list. either do it or dont. use the lyrics
or not. if you have a hang up about infringing copyrighted material dont
by  the dam shirt.

we've had this debate over buying as opposed to trading bootlegs.
everyone here is capable of making there own
decisions. the only one who really has a say is the one person in charge
of this list, if she doesnt want the lists name associated with
copyright infringed tee shirts than fine. but i dont really reacall her
saying that.
if thats the case than dont use the lists name!!

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 11:03:50 -0700
reply-to:     john miller <jmiller@wdl.lmco.com>
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i wrote:

>current plan is mid-98 release tentatively entitled 'fristz creek store'.

oops, found a type... make that a new cd entitled... 'fritz creek store'.

john miller   <jmiller@wdl.lmco.com>
san jose ca

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 14:13:56 -0400
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lynda wrote:

> is it even possible to suck the life out of this tee shirt idea anymore?

exactly, thank you.

> who ever started this idea is never going to get  approval from rc nor the
> moral consensus of this list. either do it or dont. use the lyrics or not.
> if you have a hang up about infringing copyrighted material dont by the
> dam shirt.

at the risk of adding another suggestion to the mix, how 'boutdoing a shirt
that is ig-list neutral?  i remember watching
a tape of the girls' great woods show and being really impressed
with the very simple, very well done "alt.music.indigo-girls"
sign someone made.  if it was done well, a shirt bearing the same
words would look really cool.  this would be copyright safe
and could be worn by folks from all different parts of the girls'
internet fandom.

> we've had this debate over buying as opposed to trading bootlegs.
> everyone here is capable of making there own decisions. the only one who
> really has a say is the one person in charge of this list, if she doesnt
> want the lists name associated with copyright infringed tee shirts than
> fine. but i dont really reacall her saying that. if thats the case than
> dont use the lists name!!

also, if we went with the idea i've mentioned, we'd be insured against
possible changes to the list in the future.  what if the list moved off of
netspace.org?  what, new shirts?  ('course, i'm assuming that
themusic.indigo-girls group will never move, but that is *much* less
likely to happen.)

just my two cents,

mark

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 14:49:05 -0400
reply-to:     marivel danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
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from:         marivel danielson <marivel@m.imap.itd.umich.edu>
subject:      binghamton tickets anyone?

i'm baaaack!

okay, my random e-mailing is paying off bigtime.  but i've already got my
connection for this binghamton concert on friday oct. 31, so if anyone else is
dying to get tickets and has still not figured out how, i've got the e-mail
address of yet another wonderfully generous new yorker willing to stand in line
and get tickets.

hey!  does anyone know if this is a general admission or reserved seat show?
i'll be there either way, but i'd like to know if i should set my sights on
decent seats or just accept my destiny to be sitting in a different zip code
than the girls at this particular show.

thanks, and again, if you need tickets let me know!
take care...

marivel

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   kris:  yeah...maybe you should wait 'til that girl gets off her face.

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 15:59:29 -0700
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i want a shirt that says, on the back, in artistic type:

thanks, y'all.

definitely not copyrighted, and i don't think there will ever be a
phrase that screams ig more perfectly? (if i have to explain it to you,
you wouldn't understand.)

amy (still riding that two-show buzz)

p.s. okay, we can have a simple graphic and the list name on the front
of the shirt.

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 16:13:45 -0400
reply-to:     alisa greenberg <agreenb1@swarthmore.edu>
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<i want a shirt that says, on the back, in artistic type:

<thanks, y'all.

<definitely not copyrighted, and i don't think there will ever be a
<phrase that screams ig more perfectly? (if i have to explain it to you,
<you wouldn't understand.)

yes!  perfect...  finally something simple enough to capture ig and it's
not illegal!!!!!

excited about the shirt, alisa

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 16:10:08 edt
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subject:      re: more midwest dream dates

on with the dream dates that will never happen but of course we can all
dream....

on march 21- bloomington/normal, il "the we love the midwest tour" for
deana's birthday!!! location, braden auditorium, just down the street
from my place!!!

i can dream right?
*s*
deana

on tue, 30 sep 1997 12:48:19 -0500 sarah wagoner
<sarah-wagoner@library.wustl.edu> writes:
>ok then...i'll keep the dream dates going (and y'all stopped at the
>right place, too!)
>
>dec. 2 - st. louis, mo - the "let's just keep hanging out in the
>midwest" concert for sarah's 24th birthday, location...my apartment,
>of
>course!
>
>we can all dream.....
>
>-sarah
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>i look back on my life
>and i have a good laugh..."
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subject:      re: whatever
x-to:         jillian.certo@oberlin.edu

perhaps all the listees going to this show could get together and rent a
few hotel rooms and have one big huge party!!!  i know that i will have
quite a drive ahead of me and i was looking for people i knew close in
the area...unfortunately...i'd still have to go back to illinois.  just a
suggestion.....

*s*
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on tue, 30 sep 1997 18:29:09 -0400 jill certo <jillian.certo@oberlin.edu>
writes:
>this is totally silly and my girlfriend (from here on to be known as
>michelle; i get so sick of writing "my girlfriend"--it sounds so
>pretentious to me, like i'm rubbing it in that i have one or
>something)
>will probably kill me for suggesting this, but i really want to have a
>giant sleep-over party for all the listees going to the mysterious
>dayton
>show.  i think we should have it at michelle's house.  of course.  hee
>hee.  she's gonna kill me....
>jill
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in a message dated 97-10-01 14:36:41 edt, mark writes:

<< also, if we went with the idea i've mentioned, we'd be insured against
possible changes to the list in the future.  what if the list moved off of
netspace.org?  what, new shirts?  >>

there will allllllways be new shirts. as sure as the sun rises in the
morning.
why ? because people love tshirts.
(with stuff on them) somebody ought to do a thesis project on the
function of message t-shirts in modern culture. in fact it would be
interesting to focus on how some marketing genius figured out how
to get people to pay to do advertising for them.

ta !
claire

"but it's moldy mom, isn't it ?"
(cibo matto)

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subject:      re: at the risk of beating a dead horse

okay, i know we're all tired of this discussion, but i love this idea!!!!

pam

<< i want a shirt that says, on the back, in artistic type:

thanks, y'all.

definitely not copyrighted, and i don't think there will ever be a
phrase that screams ig more perfectly? (if i have to explain it to you,
you wouldn't understand.)

amy (still riding that two-show buzz)

p.s. okay, we can have a simple graphic and the list name on the front
of the shirt.
  >>

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michael cunningham <nypro.mcunningham@sdps.org> wrote:

>about using old lyrics for a list shirt:
>
>so are all their works and all their songs under rcm, because they
>now are under contract to that organization?

as deb said, it's not just a matter of contract, it's a matter of copyright,
which is *automatically* granted to anyone who writes something original.
if i write a report for a class, it's copyrighted.  i can even register my
copyright to make it easier to enforce, but whether i do or not, it's still
copyrighted.  similarly, all of ig's songs are copyrighted, even if they
never got to play them anywhere but amy's basement and they never had a
manager.

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vote 3 for this shirt! cool idea, ames, and i am seething with jealousy over
missing my fav songs at both shows. the joy must have inspired your
brilliance. r & j???? i asked a about playing that in atlanta and she
laughed. (was it at my request or at me???) btw, sorry to those i owe emails
to, school began and i'm behind, as usual. now who's gonna do the planning
for this. lisa? i'm off to class.
happy day or evening as the case may be,
lisa


amy mednick said:

>i want a shirt that says, on the back, in artistic type:
>
>thanks, y'all.


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seriously, it's only life afterall." --emily saliers

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okay folks, first i want to say that i had a grrrrreat time at the las
vegas h t e show, don't want you to think that i didn't.  i caught most of
sound check, got so many electronic recording devices inside that i
thought i was going to tip over, took 3 rolls of film, got a pick, bought
the t-shirt, sent the post-card and got 2 bags of honey-roasted peanuts on
the flight home.  for a person who had no sleep, i'm a happy camper.

that said, and i mean this is the nicest way possible. the ig setlist was
about as uninspired, boring, and predictable as it could be and still be
an ig concert.  no romeo and juliet here.  so, instead of posting the
set-list right now, i'm going to have a leetle contest:

************guess the obvious ig setlist************

they played 9 songs.  i'll fill in one - the only rogue, wild and crazy,
not totally 100% predictable song of the set.  you guess the rest.
whoever gets closer to setlist wins one 8x10 concert picture (i got some
decent ones) and one free boot of this exciting show plus whatever
snippets of soundcheck or other stuff are worth adding on.

or you can just do it for the glory.

i don't know yet if order counts - depends on how many people play and how
well you do.  the giveaway is in the correct position.

be honorable - don't play if i already told you what they played, or if
you were at the show.

and most importantly, don't post your guess to the list.  anyone posting
to the list is immediately disqualified.  send it to me:
alisont@netcom.com i'll post the results back to the list if anyone
actually does this.

one other relevant piece of information:  they didn't play an encore, but
during bonnie raitt's encore they lead everyone in bmhawk.  therefore, no
matter how boring, predictable and obvious that choice was, it should not
be one of your 8 set items.

got it?  okay then.  gentlemen, start your engines:

1.
2.
3.
4.
5. everything in its own time
6.
7.
8.
9.


"misanthropy, yes, misogyny, no" - peter greenaway
alison  -  alisont@netcom.com

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hi all,

a couple of people asked me to post this.  it's a little feature
i wrote that will be a mid-october cover story in "4-front
magazine" which is a local las angeles based magazine.
i hope you enjoy it.....mb

***

4-front magazine

"on the road with the indigo girls"
by michael bunch

the indigo girls, amy ray and emily saliers have played together as a duo
since 1981, then they were called "saliers & ray".  the name "indigo girls"
came along around 1984 while amy ray was thumbing through the dictionary
looking for a band name.  they started playing local atlanta clubs and
developed both a strong stage presence as well as a loyal following.

in 1985 they released their first single "crazy game" on the "jellis" label,
the next year saw the release of a  6 song ep on their own "indigo" label.
as their following grew stronger they released, in 1987, their first album
"strange fire, once again on the "indigo" label.  "strange fire" caught the
ears of epic records who signed the duo in 1988 and released their
self-titled debut "indigo girls" in february of 1989.  that 1989 debut went
on to win a grammy award for best contemporary folk album and the album
itself has now been certified double-platinum.  all together the indigo girls
have sold over 6 million records and performed to over 3 million people.

if you want to know about their personal lives, that's easy.  here's what you
do, you go to your local record store and get all six of their studio albums.
listen to each one and read along with the lyric booklets.  it's all there.
their stories, the stories of those close to them and the stories of those
who have simply crossed their paths.  that accessibility is one of the
reasons why the girls have such a strong bond with their fans.   they are
just like everyone else.

they were even selected by scholastic books to judge a lyric writing contest.
students across the country were invited to submit lyrics which the girls
judged.  the winner, a 16 year old girl from alabama was gifted with a free
concert at her high school.  the only unfortunate event was when the school
area board of directors found out the indigos sexual orientation. they deemed
the concert inappropriate and protested but it was already after the fact.
the concert was a rousing success.

the girls are also on the information super highway known as the internet and
searches bring up numerous sites devoted to them.  amy and emily do not check
them out but they are aware of their existence with some reservations.  their
internet mailing list has well over 1000 subscribers with conversations
ranging from fashion reports to concert reviews and the occasional song of
the week.  most of the information is pointless but occasional informative
tidbits do come through such as tv appearances and added concert dates.  the
girls have made it know that they prefer their personal lives not be
discussed on the list and that request is respected.

as activists and being openly gay they are committed to making a difference
and inspiring change.  since 1989 they have performed in over 61 benefit
concerts.  in 1995 their own "honor the earth" tour raised over $300,000,
making it the largest fundraising benefit in the history of native american
activism.  they have even traveled to chiapas, mexico and helped the
zapatistas form an art co-op, since women were being attacked and raped while
traveling for art supplies which they use to make trinkets to sell and help
further their own cause.  the indigo girls don't just talk the talk, they
follow it up with action.  and during the course inspire others to take
action, no matter how small, within their own communities.

amy ray herself has put back into her own musical community with the creation
of daemon records.  this not-for-profit label was conceived as a vehicle to
allow recording artists to express their artistic vision without the confines
and restrictions of the traditional rock label. daemon is not only run from
the artist's perspective, it is run by a staff of artists.  the label has put
out numerous atlanta artists as well as "jesus christ superstar-a
resurrection", which is a recording of the complete andrew lloyd weber rock
opera with amy as jesus and emily as mary magdeline, other local artists form
the rest of the cast.  in addition the label released "honor" to benefit the
honor the earth fund with the participation of bonnie raitt, toad the wet
sprocket and soul asylum among others.

1997 seems to have been a banner year for the indigo girls.  they released
their sixth studio album, "shaming of the sun" which had its debut at #7 on
the billboard charts, their highest entry so far.  they played a series of
successful college gigs then began a full fledged tour in atlanta.  they even
had time to throw in a pay-per-view event which drew over 25,000 subscribers.
the concert was videotaped and will be released in time for christmas on
vhs, dvd and laserdisc.  they recently hit the west coast for the first of 5
gigs starting in san diego taking them to los angeles and then on to
berkeley.

the girls have come a long way since their first tour of the west coast back
in 1989.  those tours consisted of a van, a guitar tech and a sound guy.
fast forward to 1997 and their tours now consist of two massive moving
trucks loaded with about eight lighting rigs and various sound equipment
including over 50 huge sound monitors.  that doesn't even include all the
instruments which includes over a dozen guitars and various stringed
instruments as well as a full drum kit.  the crew has now expanded to about
15 people, including two guitar techs and the van has been replaced by two
tour busses.

the grateful dead, whom the girls opened for back in 1993, had fans who
followed them from gig to gig called "deadheads".  well the indigo girls seem
to have developed a similar following of fans called "go-heads".  they travel
in groups, road-tripping from show to show forming a community similar to
that of the grateful dead.  road-tripping takes a special kind of spirit and
dedication.  your constantly driving and seldom sleeping.  here is just a
taste of the road-tripping experience.

being that los angeles was the center starting point for our trip and we knew
berkley was 400 miles away we decided to do the mesa, az gig also, since it
was 400 miles away as well.  leaving la at 8am we arrived in mesa at around 4
p.m., at that point you get your tickets grab a hotel room and grab a few
minutes of sleep.  that night you see the show and get a good nights sleep in
the hotel room before heading up to san diego the next morning for the first
california shows.

now the band is not exactly indulging in limos and lear jets.  the show ended
at 10:30 p.m. and the last truck rolled out at 1:00 am heading for san diego.
the band sleeps on the bus, then checks into their own hotel in san diego,
when they're up and about they take care of laundry or go sightseeing.
soundcheck is usually at 3:00 p.m. with dinner at 5:00 p.m., the opening
band hits the stage at 7 or 7:30 p.m.  a band on the road is its own little
structured bubble of a community.  it is overseen by the tour manager who
works like mad to see that everything runs smoothly so that all the girls
have to do is show up.  their tour manager describes the tour as "mellow".
of course his last tour was for alanis morissette, need i say more.

after san diego, everyone heads up to los angeles.  the girls do an in-store
record signing at tower records in hollywood drawing hundreds of fans.  true
to form, even though they were running late, every fan in line got to see
them and have something signed.  they even donated and signed, for silent
auction, a complete set of their cd's for "outfest '97", the los angeles gay
and lesbian film festival.

they then put on a blistering sold out show the first night including cover
songs by bob dylan, neil young, bob marley and the rolling stones.  the
second show was more laid back and intimate.  following the last la gig they
head out to san francisco for the bay area shows.  the first berkeley show
had technical problems and amy said the band needed a moment to bond.  we did
however find out that amy uses a 1969 fender strat and emily a 1958.  the
second and final show was in the middle of the day so it was looser and more
fun the girls were having a great time and everybody was into it.

unfortunately, the last berkeley show ended our road-trip except, of course
for the trip home.  the girls are off to seattle and a few more dates before
they end this leg of their tour at red rocks amphitheater in colorado.  after
a few days rest they join select dates of the lilith fair and then start some
dates for their honor the earth tour.  honor the earth is now a part of every
tour they do and they are totally committed to it.

as for the future, the indigo girls have three more records left on their
contract with epic.  there have been rumors, unsubstantiated of course, that
they may go independent again.  they could if they wanted to, ani difranco
has done quite well on her own.  there is however something to be said about
having a supportive label behind you and epic seems to have been nothing but
supportive.  but you never know with the indigo girls, they never fail to
surprise you.  as it has been said, the only constant thing is change, so we
shall see what their future holds with anticipation.


special thanks to amy and emily, russell carter and lisa markowitz.


on the internet visit the indigo girls, honor the earth
and daemon records at the following sites:

http://www.epiccenter.com/epiccenter/indigogirls/

http://www.honorearth.com/

http://www.monsterbit.com/daemon/

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 16:40:57 -0700
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perhaps i should mention...

you have time...

i'm on digest and i haven't even gotten my own message yet, but the
guesses are flooding in.  apart from something entitled are you ready for
financial change??, the mail in my box has gotten much more amusing and
i'm having fun.

i will let this run at least 24 hours to give people who read mail at
various times a fair shot.  maybe if more than one person gets the whole
set list in exactly the right order, time will be a factor but it's not
looking like it's going to be a problem so far.

have fun - i know i am!

alison

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 20:28:14 -0400
reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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okay im on this list for cds and i just got this they have vidoes of ani
difanco jewel and yes   the indigo girls so i know some of you folks wiill
be intrested in this i myself cant afford 30 bucks for a video rightnow
but hey maybe soemoen can get them and then we can swap some stuff for
them anyway here u go

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: wed, 1 oct 1997 11:35:44 -0700 (pdt)
from: the cd list guy <searchme@earthlink.net>
to: searchme@earthlink.net
subject: a word about the videos

hiya!

i've expanded my paragraph about videos by adding some of the artists
available so i'm reposting this info to you.  please bear in mind that
these videos vary from pro shot concerts to hand-held camcorders brought
into concerts.  on the hand-helds, the sound quality is always very good
and the picture is usually pretty good due to zoom lenses etc.  of course,
occasionally people walk by and get in the way and there are other glitches
at times but if you're a avid fan of a particular band, these are
worthwhile documents!  the pro shot videos, while less plentiful, are
great, ususally specials aired in europe but not in the us, etc.

rare videos:!
     if you are interested in rare concert videos of your
favorite band or bands, just send the name of the band and the word video
to searchme@earthlink.net and i'll let you know if there is anything
available by them.
     wide selection of artists:  311/aerosmith/alanis/alice cooper/allman
brothers/ani difranco/beck/black crowes/black
sabbath/dylan/blur/boston/bush/springsteen/csn/bowie/fionna
apple/clapton/faith no more/garbage/van morrison/indigo
girls/jewel/fogerty/justin hayward/moody blues/kiss/marilyn
mason/metallica/michael jackson/neil young/nirvana/nuno
bettencourt/ozzy/offspring/no doubt/benatar/patti rothberg/jethro
tull/patti smith/pearl jam/phil collins/radiohaed/rage against the
machine/rainbow/ramones/ratt/richie blackmore/rick wakeman/ringo starr/the
stones/rory gallaher/rush/santana/sarah mclachlan/social d/styx/sublime/ted
nugent/tina turner/u2/veruca salt/wallflowers/the who/wilco/yes/zz
top/others!
     the average price per video is $30 and shipping/handling is $2.50 for
the first video and $1.00 for each additional.

feel free to ask questions, thanks!

matthew
cd guy

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reply-to:     sid kirshner <kirshner@onestone.elsinore.klever.net>
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subject:      re: at the risk of beating a dead horse
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on wed, 1 oct 1997, amy mednick wrote:

> i want a shirt that says, on the back, in artistic type:
>
> thanks, y'all.
>

yeah, yeah, yeah.  and on the front it should say:
                igc!

java

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 21:33:00 -0400
reply-to:     chelle2930@aol.com
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from:         michelle reeves <chelle2930@aol.com>
subject:      mle and indigo girl finds
x-to:         etheridge@esosoft.com

just thought i'd post that i went out with my list from both lists and bought
4 things today.

1.) the advocate with mle's lullaby in it
2.) curve with an article on sara lee, ani and indigo girls
3.) rolling stone book of women in rock: trouble girls
4.) amazing grace cd compilation to benefit the fight against breast cancer

all are very cool. the lullaby lyrics were posted to the mle list, but if you
want/need them, email me and put lullaby in the header.

in the rolling stone book,  indigos are mentioned on page 129 and 133.
mle is mentioned on several pages: 323, 359, 368, 374, 375, 419, 558
on 558, mle has a picture (not a new one, but hey it's a picture)

anyway, i'm giving all of these to my g/f for christmas, so i will be
wrapping them up now.

just thought you all would like to know.

p.s. the rolling stone book is very very cool. i recommend as a gift.
($25.00, but i got it for $20.00 with my bookstop card)

$8.00 for the two magazines

$14.99 for the cd.

michelle

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reply-to:     christine hains <tabie@psyc.queensu.ca>
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i think the thanks y'all is
perfect perfect perfect
:)
but i think the front should have a child like drawing of two girls, you
know the ones we all use to draw with stick people in triangle skirts and
hair that flips up...of course drawn with indigo crayons!

thoughts?
christine

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> from: alisa greenberg <agreenb1@swarthmore.edu>
> to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject: shirt
> date: wednesday, october 01, 1997 3:13 pm
>
> <i want a shirt that says, on the back, in artistic type:
>
> <thanks, y'all.
>
> <definitely not copyrighted, and i don't think there will ever be a
> <phrase that screams ig more perfectly? (if i have to explain it to you,
> <you wouldn't understand.)
>
>
>
> yes!  perfect...  finally something simple enough to capture ig and it's
> not illegal!!!!!
>
> excited about the shirt, alisa
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this is ridiculous. the whole concept of "intellectual property" is absurd.
the law states that since it is the product of  a persons mind it could
belong only to the creator and no one else; therefore, it is property;
however since then it has become accepted to licence this, sell it to
corporations, and inherit it after death. surely ones mind ceases to
function. i'm not saying we should be able to make illegal copies of the
girls albums, but quotes from their songs. most people arte honored to be
quoted on a shirt or a sign. i worry that the girls may be getting way way
way tro full of themselves when we have to worry about puting lyurics from
a song on a tee shirt. i better get rid of my buisness cards they have a
quote from picasso on them and he hasn't been dead long enough yet. dear
god.

this isn't a critisism of anyone on the list, just of the fact that we have
to fear lawsuits foir a tribute. it'
s the same reason i hat it when artist get sued for unathorized covers.

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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 23:09:09 -0400
reply-to:     ndygotiggr@aol.com
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from:         j tigger kickliter <ndygotiggr@aol.com>
subject:      re: tigger's dream dates
x-to:         suzanneglass@geocities.com

in a message dated 97-10-01 02:44:09 edt, you write:

<< hey tig,
can i have a measly "opening for the opening act" slot at one of your
house concerts?!!?
  we're *all* dreaming now! ;)
  suzanne >>

dammit suz!!!!!!!!!  you spoiled the surprise!!!!!!!!  you're supposed to be
the secret special guest on the party at my house on my birthday (the 20th).
keep it under your hat next time for chrissake!!!!!!!

<grin>

peace, harmony and indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
    -  president, grlchasr26 fan club
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date:         wed, 1 oct 1997 23:33:14 -0400
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from the caroline aiken webpage:

(ig) october 24, 1997: carpenter sports building, u of delaware, newark de
(ig) october 25, 1997: umbc arena, university of maryland, baltimore md
(ig) october 26, 1997: lowell auditorium, lowell ma
(ig) october 28, 1997: palace theater, new haven ct
(ig) october 29, 1997: patrick fieldhouse, u of vermont, burlington vt

anyone know any of the other opening acts?

andi

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hi y'all-

would someone please mail me the lyrics to "blood quantum" (or a url
where i can find them)? i just bought the honor cd last week and it
drives me crazy not knowing the words. thanks!

tracy
th3307@wcu.edu

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...and you can lose me if you want to
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from:         shana smulyan <knave4@aol.com>
subject:      re: a great quote i just saw for a list shirt. -reply

ok, i know this shirt thing has been discussed to death, but i'm not sure if
anyone had brought this up yet, so i figured i'd ask.  what about songs that
don't actually exist (at least as far as albums) yet... are their lyrics
protected?  things like problem child, winthrop, and chiapas bound, or even
stuff from amy soc's for that matter.  i'm not suggesting anything in
particular, but this could avoid legal problems.

west of bishes
shana

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 00:18:38 -0400
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from:         marivel danielson <marivel@m.imap.itd.umich.edu>
subject:      opening acts...

in message <v03110700b0588ebec08c@[130.91.173.17]> andi writes:

> anyone know any of the other opening acts?
>
> andi

isn't lift opening for most or all of the new york shows?  i thought that's
where those dates were first spotted (on the daemon webpage).

marivel

       me:  so what *exactly* did she do?

       emma:  i don't know?...i guess everybody.

                    (in reaction to fiona apple's "criminal" video)

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hi, i'm not on the list :( but used to be, and have a favor to ask of any
kind soul who would like to help a fellow "ellen" fan. due to frustrating
circumstances, my vcr backfired on me, and i was unable to tape and view
tonight's "ellen" episode. if anyone taped it and would be willing to make a
copy, i'd be most appreciative and glad to send a blank, or copy of the few
ig & ani video snippets i have (talk show appearances, etc) or trade audio
boots, etc. hopefully we can work out a trade. i'm also looking for a copy
of the season premiere of "ellen" that aired last week. if anyone can help,
i'd be *eternally* thankful! please e-mail me privately if you can! sorry
for the nigc!

~abigail

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depending on how we slept the night before..." --ani difranco

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subject:      re: shirt

i can't believe i'm responding to this thread, but here goes...(i'm telling
myself it's okay cause no one reads messages with "shirt" in the header anymore
anyway, right?)...

okay so "thanks, y'all" goes on the back of the shirt, and then on the front we
put "girls indigo" and then draw a circle around the word indigo and an arrow
going from the circle to the front of the word "girls" and then below it we
could write:

                "*@!*#@-ing copywrights!"

you know like copywright infringment disguised as a typo.  okay, i know i'm not
funny.  sorry for the bw...

marivel

       me:  so what *exactly* did she do?

       emma:  i don't know?...i guess everybody.

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subject:      spelling

sorry!!!  what can i say?  spelling was never my subject.  and my reaction
time's bad too cause i caught it 2 seconds after clicking send.  please don't
kill me.  i promise i'll consult the dictionary next time!

marivel
(still blushing...copyright, copyright, copyright, copyright!!!)

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a couple of things......

michelle malone......remember all those times you've
chuckled and sung along with the classic "knee deep" ,
rocked out to band de soleil, cried to "all my lifetime" and
more.  need i say more.

if you can please send a few bucks along to help cover her
medical costs, i think others have mentioned how big they
are going to be :

michelle malone
po box 3092
decatur  ga  30031

...and all this talk of amy doing r&j,  i just happened to
notice on my video (kindly passed on by a fellow lister in
pal fomat only !!) from on the park at decatur square from
way back in 1987......this very song being
performed......so, i personally am unable to copy this for
anyone but there may be someone out there with the us format
of this thing who is able.  i can't remember if anyone could
at the time this  was offered....

anyway it's good for a bit of a laugh.....a very daggy mm
pops up for a couple of songs...check out those hair
do's...my oh my....

cheers,

penelope

and may i say how pleased i am that the list has regained
its composure......for the moment anyway :))

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subject:      uvm show...

hey all!

i just saw this info about uvm tickets on the ellen list and was wondering if
it's common knowledge around here yet or not.  i don't remember seeing it, but
just in case, here it is:

>speaking of the indigo girls - for anyone out there in the greater
>vermont/plattsburgh ny area.  they will be playing at the university of vermont
>- patrick gym - on oct. 29th tickets are 24.00 with uvm id/26.00 without and go
>on sale this friday morning at the uvm ticket store (at the bookstore)

hope it helps someone!

marivel
(still wondering why they let people like me into grad school)

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from:         jami m klein <jamik@juno.com>
subject:      re: count me in

on wed, 1 oct 1997 22:31:25 -0400 christine hains <tabie@psyc.queensu.ca>
writes:
>i think the thanks y'all is
>perfect perfect perfect
>:)
>but i think the front should have a child like drawing of two girls,
>you
>know the ones we all use to draw with stick people in triangle skirts
>and
>hair that flips up...of course drawn with indigo crayons!
>


i like this idea best.

jami

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i was wondering <tap tap tap>, if anyone out there happen to have any
extra tickets out there for this 10/28 show??? <praaaayyyyyy>

i just found out my gf is coming and i need either one good ticket or two
tickets together.  that is because i have a really good single, and now i
need two.  so if anyone wants a good single for two tickets farther back
in orchestra (plus the cost of the extra ticket of course) let me know.

this might be complicated - but if you have an extra anywhere - let me
know cause that will probably be good enough.......

thanks y'all !!!!,
mkc
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an idea that works has been discovered.

(front)

indigo-girls@netspace.org

(back)

thanks, y'all

it's fabulous!  it's wonderful!  i'd buy ten of them and give them to
relatives!

now, who's gonna do it?

justin

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before that can happen,
everyone has to
get pet monkeys.

first thing's first.
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>an idea that works has been discovered.
>
>(front)
>
>indigo-girls@netspace.org
>
>(back)
>
>thanks, y'all
>


i really like it. now, who's got the talent and contacts to do it? these
would make great christmas presents for my other indigohead friends :) i'm
waiting for the blessed volunteer to show her/his face and be known.

peace, kiez

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well penelope i myself can transfer pal to usa tape standard

on thu, 2 oct 1997, penelope wrote:

> a couple of things......
>
> michelle malone......remember all those times you've
> chuckled and sung along with the classic "knee deep" ,
> rocked out to band de soleil, cried to "all my lifetime" and
> more.  need i say more.
>
> if you can please send a few bucks along to help cover her
> medical costs, i think others have mentioned how big they
> are going to be :
>
> michelle malone
> po box 3092
> decatur  ga  30031
>
> ...and all this talk of amy doing r&j,  i just happened to
> notice on my video (kindly passed on by a fellow lister in
> pal fomat only !!) from on the park at decatur square from
> way back in 1987......this very song being
> performed......so, i personally am unable to copy this for
> anyone but there may be someone out there with the us format
> of this thing who is able.  i can't remember if anyone could
> at the time this  was offered....
>
> anyway it's good for a bit of a laugh.....a very daggy mm
> pops up for a couple of songs...check out those hair
> do's...my oh my....
>
> cheers,
>
> penelope
>
> and may i say how pleased i am that the list has regained
> its composure......for the moment anyway :))
>
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count me in too!!!!

        ksmith @ sewanee.edu (kiezha smith)
10/02/97 10:09 am
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>an idea that works has been discovered.
>
>(front)
>
>indigo-girls@netspace.org
>
>(back)
>
>thanks, y'all
>


i really like it. now, who's got the talent and contacts to do it? these
would make great christmas presents for my other indigohead friends :) i'm
waiting for the blessed volunteer to show her/his face and be known.

peace, kiez

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is anyone going to either of the two shows in the middle of october at
the theater at msg???  and does anyone have any extra tickets???
i assume the good ones are already gone, cause it's a small place, so i
figure i check here first......

any info about the place would be welcomed as well.......

thanks for all y'all 's time ....... 8-)
<g>
mkc
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and a know it all grin
just when we need one
when the evening's thin
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okay ya'll after all the money i am spending on cd's lately...btw
that amazing grace cd is very good...i need some info re music clubs.
i already belong to bmg and columbiahouse but of course they don't
really carry all the good women's stuff on there.

does anyone know of a music club where one can get a good deal on cds?
or even a club that allows you points for purchases or anything like
that?

would appreciate info


urvashi :-)who gets to hear janis ian tommorrow!!


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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 12:21:53 -0400
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              (hop 0)
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okay.  my suggestion for these shirts.  indigo (dark blue--though probably
more of a midnight blue than navy) t-shirts, with the following quote in
yellow, van gogh-ish type on the front:

"through every storm and the darkness of
night comes a patch of indigo."

with maybe a couple of stars or something along the "starry, starry night"
painting; and then

"thanks y'all"

on the back in bigger type.

i guess we could put the list address (i definitely vote for having it
somewhere) in smaller type under the quote on the front.

in fact, i would gladly do a mock-up of the design and put it on my web
page is y'all like....

rich benson
',,'',,''
cobweb@grove.ufl.edu
',,'',,''
these are ghosts and mirages,
these thoughts of fairer weather
though it's storming out
i feel safe within the arms of love's discovery
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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 17:05:07 +0000
reply-to:     bonj1_95@worc.ac.uk
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from:         john bond <bonj1_95@worc.ac.uk>
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subject:      re: my 1st shirt posting!

just thought i'd add 0.02 - say that i'm glad somebody has come up
with an idea we can use!!!!

john.


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ok, over my strong opinion..."

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does anyone have lyrics for songs on beneath the devil moon?


em

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mood indigo

from the porch, from the hayrick where her prickled
brothers hid and chortled and slurped into their young pink
lungs the ash-blond dusty air that lay above the bales

like low clouds; and from the squeak and suck
of the well-pump and from the glove of rust it implied
on her hand; from the dress parade of clothes

in her mothproofed closet; from her tiny philco
with its cracked speaker and sunday litany
(nick carter, the shadow, the green hornet, sky king);

from the loosening bud of her body; from hunger,
as they say, and from reading; from the finger
she used to dial her own number; from the dark

loam of the harrowed fields and from the very sky;
it came from everywhere.  which is to say it was
always there, and that it came from nowhere.

it evaporated with the dew, and at dusk when dark
spread in the sky like water in a blotter, it spread, too,
but it came back and curdled with milk and stung

with nettles.  it was in the bleat of the lamb, the way
a clapper is in a bell, and in the raucous, scratchy
gossip of the crows.  it walked with her to school and lay

with her to sleep and at last she was well pleased.
if she were to sew, she would prick her finger with it.
if she were to bake, it would linger in the kitchen

like an odor snarled in the deepest folds of childhood.
it became her dead pet, her lost love, the baby sister
blue and dead at birth, the chill headwaters of the river

that purled and meandered and ran and ran until
it issued into her, as into a sea, and then she was its
and it was wholly hers.  she kept to her room, as we

learned to say, but now and then she'd come down
and pass through the kitchen, and the screen door
would close vehind her with no more sound than

an envelope being sealed, and she'd walk for hours
in the fields like a lithe blue rain, and end up
in the barn, and one of us would go and bring her in.


                                      --william matthews

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 18:42:21 +0000
reply-to:     bonj1_95@worc.ac.uk
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subject:      i passed the auditions!!! (nigc)
x-cc:         weenracer@aol.com, rich benson <cobweb@grove.ufl.edu>,
              x95roy@wmich.edu, shimian@mindless.com

just thought i'd send a message to everybody who knows me to say i
passed the auditions for the college musical, as one of the main
singers for "wouldn't it be lovely", and one of the general cast....

john :-)


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marivel  wrote:

>isn't lift opening for most or all of the new york shows?  i thought that's
>where those dates were first spotted (on the daemon webpage).

yep, thanks for reminding me!  i found this on the lift webpage:

friday, october 31     west gym, binghamton, ny (with indigo girls)
saturday, november 1   stanley arts center, utica, ny  (with indigo girls)
sunday, november 2     kuhl hall, genesco, ny  (with indigo girls)
monday, november 3     kuhl hall, genesco, ny  (with indigo girls)

andi

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ok, the horse may still be breathing...i think i saw its nostrils flare
for a moment...yes! let's stop beating this poor thing and get
on with the shirt project!
we seem to have a list shirt idea that's showing signs of concensus. but
imho maybe we should add a little bit of graphic...??? of course i
personally liked that "patch of indigo" idea, but at this point i'm
thinking we could still be debating this next easter if we don't go with
what the majority of the heads of "the organism" (which is how i've come
to think of the list lately - a crazy, multi-headed organism) can accept
and embrace.
i move that we take a vote - and to save bandwidth i will even offer
to do the tallying.  email me privately with your reactions to the
following proposal:

>>(front)
>>indigo-girls@netspace.org
>>
>>(back)
>>thanks, y'all

anybody who wants to vote for other ideas (including the crayon
drawing idea of the two girls/the patch of indigo text/etc.) can do that
and i'll track those too.  i'll take and tally posts through the
weekend, and will send results to the list on monday.  good enough?
note:it will be most helpful if only those who actually plan to support
the project by coughing up dough and buying a shirt (or shirts) respond
to this.
one more thing: did i understand correctly that there is no problem
with the list's powers-that-be regarding the use of the list-site?
someone correct me if i'm wrong re:that.
peace-nic

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 15:12:43 -0400
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re: the daemon - lift tour page

correct dates:

sun nov 1       kuhl gym        suny - geneseo
mon nov 2       smith opera     hobart & wm smith colleges
                house            geneva, ny

for more info see deb reiser's sots dates page:

        < http://ftp.wi.net/~dreiser/ig/dates.html >
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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 15:17:51 -0400
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has anyone figured out the piano chords to "leeds"?  i've been fumbling
around with it on the piano, but i can't quite get it right...i've never
played the piano so i have no clue what i'm doing chord-wise...
thanks
dave
ps--i stumbled across a december 1996 issue of "the progressive" that has a
really awesome 2.5 page interview with a and e...it's before sots and hte
so they discuss their future plans....has it been posted? just checking,
cuz em discusses what batl is about and they both discuss their use of
religion in songs....
:0)

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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gotta learn to respect what we don't understand
we are fortunate ones, fortunates ones, i swear."
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i have to agree with this one..original, good taste and no one can get
their panties too tight about it (or whatever russssssselllll would like
to wear (; )
definate vote here!
   amanda rae

> amy mednick said:
>
> >i want a shirt that says, on the back, in artistic type:
> >
> >thanks, y'all.
>
> "the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less
> seriously, it's only life afterall." --emily saliers
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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 15:43:10 -0400
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hey kind friends,
   so i'm in the midst of working out how many and which of the four ny
shows in early nov i'm gonna get to.  i'd like to go to all 4 but of
course that's expensive and not having a car, so much depends on what i
can convince my housemate to do.  she's a fan but not of the same level
of madness.  she wants to go to 1 of them.  i think it'll be tough to
convince her to go to more since we did just go to the syracuse hte show
last month.
   in any case, i'm working on acquaintences at suny binghamton and suny
geneseo to scounge up some tix for me.  does anyone know what the deal
for tickets is at hobart and william smith (geneva)  when do they go on
sale?  students first?  ga or reserved seating?
  and also the utica show.  am i correct in that tix are on sale through
ticketmaster.  have they been on sale already?  anyone get em?   prices?
seating availability?  this one's not general admission is it?

on to other things.  this michelle malone collection thing.  i think it's
wonderful!  thanks to alison taub for coordinating it.  michelle is one hell
of an entertainer and also a real friendly person.  i've been throwing
this around in my head all week, to contribute or not to contribute.  i'd
really like to cause i'd love to help michelle out and i know hospital
bills on zero insurance have gotta be rough but i wasn't going to because
my money situation is simply not pretty right now.  but then today i got
paid and it was a little bit more than i expected and besides that, this
is what i decided.  i spend over $10 a week on cigarettes.  if i just quit
for a week, there's $10 found money.  it'll be good for me, good for
michelle, an all around good idea.  if every one of you smokers did the
same...yeah, you know.

anyway, i'm gonna write a check right now.  alison - should i still send
this to you?  the 8th is coming around real fast.  you're not in ga
(in this case georgia, not general admission as above) are you?  i'm sure
a check that goes out in the mail tomorrow could get to you by then but
are you then sending it to someone in atlanta?  how's that working?
who's handling that?  lemme know asap.

                   -colleen

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 15:39:37 -0400
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hello, everyone.   this is obviously about the show here at m.w.c.
there had been a lot of speculation about the details concerning tix and
the like, but here is the "official" details that was just sent out across
campus here.  tix were supposed to be on sale yesterday, but that
obviously wasn't the case.  so, here is the message we were sent.
hopefully anyone who was looking for info will find what they need here
or on the web address it gives.
peace
steve
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tickets for the indigo girls concert will be going on sale for mwc
students and faculty/staff on monday, oct. 6! here is all the important
information:

-  the show is on tuesday, oct. 21.

-  tickets will go on sale at 8 am in the courtyard in front of the campus
    center.

-  student tickets will be $8 and non-student tickets will be $16
    (faculty/staff are non-students). an m.w.c. id must be presented
    to buy tickets on oct. 6!

-  students and faculty/staff can buy non-student tickets the first day of
sales, but please remember that anyone presenting a student ticket the
night of the show must also present an mwc student id.

-  there is a five ticket limit.

-  doors on oct. 21 will open at 8 pm.

-  the tickets do not correspond to a specific seat or row in dodd
auditorium; seating will be on a first-come, first-serve basis.

     for more information, please visit the giant website at
<www.mwc.edu> (click on 'student life').

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 16:31:29 -0400
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heres a list of jewel vidoes  btw if anyones gonna get these let me know
the indigo girls one he has i tihkn is the pay per view he didnt know but
im pretty sure it is

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: thu, 2 oct 1997 11:56:02 -0700 (pdt)
from: the cd list guy <searchme@earthlink.net>
to: madonajk@alpha.delta.edu
subject: jewel video

here's the information you requested regarding the jewel video:

price   artist   date   location   length  quality   notes

29.00   jewel   3/3/97  beacon theatre, nyc     79      9-/8+   close

30.00   jewel   3/20/97 chicago il      88      9       close, nice

28.00   jewel   5/1/97  chicago il      60      10      hard rock live, pro
shot

28.00   jewel   8/15/97 toronto, canada 50      9-      very close, lilith fair

30.00   jewel   8/20/97 toronto, canada 90      10      pro shot, master,
intimate and interactive (whatever that means)


shipping/handling is $2.50 for
the first video and $1.00 for each additional.

please bear in mind that these videos vary from pro shot concerts to
hand-held camcorders brought into concerts.  on the hand-helds, the sound
quality is always very good and the picture is usually pretty good due to
zoom lenses etc.  of course, occasionally people walk by and get in the way
and there are other glitches at times but if you're a avid fan of a
particular band, these are worthwhile documents!  the pro shot videos,
while less plentiful, are great.  they often are specials that were only
shown in europe.  be careful, though, because some of them may be tv
specials/pay per view events in the us that you've already seen/taped.

thanks,

matthew
cd guy

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 17:06:58 -0400
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on thu, 2 oct 1997, colleen caffrey wrote:
>
>    in any case, i'm working on acquaintences at suny binghamton and suny
> geneseo to scounge up some tix for me.  does anyone know what the deal
> for tickets is at hobart and william smith (geneva)  when do they go on
> sale?  students first?  ga or reserved seating?
>
  i emailed a girl who goes to school there--funny, her hometown is right
next to mine in ohio.  i got her address from her school's homepages.
that was two days ago; i wonder if she's ever gonna write back...
still waiting for an answer,
jill
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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 17:56:19 -0400
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from:         pam myers-morgan <mnoelm@aol.com>
subject:      it pays to increase your vocabulary! igc!!

i was looking up a word today and came across the following:

indigometer - an instrument for showing the strength of an indigo solution

indigometry - the art or method of determining the coloring power of indigo

indigotic - pertaining to or obtained from indigo

indigotin - the coloring matter and chief ingredient of indigo

so these ought to spice up our posts!!! :-)

happy day,

pam

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 18:14:05 -0400
reply-to:     lturcotte@star.net
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from:         bong goddess <lturcotte@star.net>
subject:      liz's vocab (not real igc)
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on 10/02/97, pam myers-morgan said:

>indigometer - an instrument for showing the strength of an indigo
>solution

nope.. an instrument to determine the emotional damage sustained from
flame wars on the ig list.

>indigotic - pertaining to or obtained from indigo

nah..kinda like "idiotic", but with an indigo twist. = )


thanks for the words, pam! i had other meaings, but they were so very
inappropriate. ;  )

later, ya'll...

-liz-

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 18:25:16 -0400
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subject:      in with the out crowd

he listys,

i recently received as 2 different trades, copies of something called "in
with the out crowd."  why is it called that?  when and where was it recorded?
it seems to be from a couple different concerts (ctf is on there twice).
the most interesting cuts are cortez the killer and chickenmanw/soc.  any
help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,

pam

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 18:38:39 +0000
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hello again.  just wanted to make a final plea for the person to whom
i sent a video to make a copy to please respond to me.  please!!! i
sent a video to someone on this list and they have not made the
copies for me and sent it.  i hate to think that anyone on this list
has been dishonest, and maybe is just slow getting around to it.  i
know, you'll say, well why didn't you save the information such as
name and address.  well, i did.  unfortunately my e-mail program
crashed where i had all the information saved.

also, if i never end up seeing this tape again (which would just
really suck) - would any kind soul on this list considering making me
one - it was of the girls on the view and disney special.

thanks guys!!
i promise i wont be mad, i just want to know what the deal is and
that you received it.  maybe it never arrived and is sitting in the
post office somewhere.  boo hoo!!

lori jusko
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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 18:45:20 -0400
reply-to:     marivel danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
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subject:      re: opening acts...

in message <3433f22b.62b@mindspring.com> mel writes:
> re: the daemon - lift tour page
> correct dates:
> sun nov 1       kuhl gym        suny - geneseo
> mon nov 2       smith opera     hobart & wm smith colleges
>                 house            geneva, ny

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wait a sec...days of the week are right here, but the dates are wrong.  geneseo
is on sunday nov. 2, and geneva is monday nov. 3.

marivel

       me:  so what *exactly* did she do?

       emma:  i don't know?...i guess everybody.

                    (in reaction to fiona apple's "criminal" video)

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i just got the boot from the montreal lilith fair and was listening to
closer to fine...who is the third woman that sings?  it is driving me crazy!

alisa

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september 27
hunterj1@aol.com (jude hunter)
happy birthday, jude!

september 29
younge@ucs.orst.edu (crazy!!!)
happy birthday, crazy!

september 30
lisag@charity.trinityvt.edu (lisa grandjean)
happy 20th, lisa!

october 3
u_posa@venus.twu.edu (monique posa)
happy 29th, monique!

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 19:55:05 -0400
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sorry bout the day v. date error - i copied those from the post i was
attempting to correct (venues & cities)...

guess i should have checked the "day" too - but i knew the "dates" were
right...

"oh, bother," said the bear of very little brain...
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after a rush of enquiries as to what daggy means i have
consulted the trusty oxford australian reference dictionary
which gives the original meaning as:

"a lock of wool matted with excreta hanging round the tail
of a sheep"

it then goes on to say it also means:
"1.  an extrodinary and entertaining person
2.  an unfashionable or socially awkward person"

now don't ask me how it evolved but i was not referring to
michelle malone as the sheepy, wooly, pooey one.....in the
video in question "unfashionable or socially awkward" fits
the bill......


penelope

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on thu, 2 oct 1997, mel wrote:

> re: the daemon - lift tour page
>
> correct dates:
>
> sun nov 1       kuhl gym        suny - geneseo
> mon nov 2       smith opera     hobart & wm smith colleges
>                 house            geneva, ny


that can't be right.  the 1st is saturday, not sunday.  i believe the
correct lineup is:

fri. 10/31      suny binghamton
sat. 11/1       utica
sun. 11/2       suny geneseo
mon. 11/3       hobart & smith (geneva, ny)

         -colleen

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arrrrggghhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whatever... don't ask me... i just surf & type here................

everyone - immediately go check deb reiser's *correct* ig-sots tour
dates page... yes, now... go... pay no attention to the dyke behind the
monitor... shoo...

        < http://ftp.wi.net/~dreiser/ig/dates.html >

oh, yeah... peace & all that stuff...
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as caroline aiken cruises the east coast on her way to the philly area, the
home team passes along these tour dates for your listening pleasure.  but
first, please join us in rejoicing in the fact that caroline's new album,
"butler field," has actually hit the record stores and (hopefully) a radio
station near you.  whew.  feedback has been splendid, so whattaya waitin'
for?  go on and get yourself a copy.

we're only listing the october dates, because we don't want to take up too
much space.  the rest are on her website, listed below.  and if you get a
chance, go see caroline aiken live.  we guarantee you won't be disappointed:

(ig) indicates opening for indigo girls:
october 3, 1997:  live on wxpn with michaela majourn, philadelphia, pa --
9:15am-ish
october 3, 1997: dog house, 83 e. lancaster pike, paoli pa -- 8pm, 610-644-5069
october 4, 1997: 12 corners coffeehouse, 1200 s. winton rd, rochester ny -- 8pm
october 5, 1997: bitter end, new york ny -- 8:30pm, 212 673-7030
october 8, 1997: eddie's attic, decatur ga -- michelle malone benefit
october 10, 1997: island rock, st. simons island ga
october 11, 1997: st. simons art festival, st. simons island ga -- 2pm
october 11, 1997: murphy's, st. simons island ga -- 8:30pm (cd release show)
october 11, 1997: st. simons art festival, st. simons island ga -- 2pm
october 17, 1997: borders books, duluth ga -- 8pm
october 18, 1997: borders books, snellville ga -- 8pm
october 19, 1997: chiaha fair, rome ga -- 3pm
october 20, 1997: self family arts center, hilton head island sc
(ig) october 24, 1997: carpenter sports building, u of delaware, newark de
(ig) october 25, 1997: umbc arena, university of maryland, baltimore md
(ig) october 26, 1997: lowell auditorium, lowell ma
(ig) october 28, 1997: palace theater, new haven ct
(ig) october 29, 1997: patrick fieldhouse, u of vermont, burlington vt

machado entertainment, management and promotion
p.o. box 39952, los angeles, ca  90039, e-mail:  lorene@flylive.com
phone:  (818) 787-2468, fax:  (818) 787-3031
caroline aiken website:  http://www.hidwater.com/aiken/
wendy bucklew website:  http://www.hidwater.com/wendy/

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hey again kind friends,

   i've got a copy of mm's beneath the devil moon that i'd like to trade
with someone for a couple of boots.  here's the thing.  i have a copy but
it got scratched.  the only damage is one 20 second section of track 2: in
the weeds.  the last verse "i've been deep in the weeds for so long now.
machete swing don't cut me down.  one more day and i just might turn this
darkness into light." does this little skippy thing.  it never actually
gets stuck it just sort of sputters its way through and distorts to
varying degrees depending upon which cd player i put it in.  it's kinda
neat how it gets better right after the line, turn this darkness into
light.  other than those 20 seconds it's in fine shape.  still, i love
that song and it annoys the heck out of me.

   so today (shortly after i got paid) i made the mistake of popping into
this cd shop thatsells mostly used stuff.  and what do i find but devil
moon.  (personally i think it's a little weird.  the album's only been
out since july.  i can't imagine anyone wanting to get rid of it that
fast.  this is also the same store where i found both redemption dream
and relentless within the last year.)  so it was $8 and i had just gotten
paid, so i bought it.  so now i have this extra copy on my hands just
because i couldn't deal with 20 seconds of imperfection.

so here's my proposition:  boots.  i want boots. i have only 4 and i
always mean to get more. lord knows tons of people here are always being
kind enough to offer them.  but since i never have anything to trade, it's
a hassle. two way postage.  envelope within envelope.  it just annoys me
ans so irarely do it.  i just can't be bothered.  so here's my suggestion:
somebody offer me two boots. you buy the tapes and pay the postage to mail
it to me.  i mail you my slightly warped copy of beneath the devil moon
and we're even.  no back and forth, no double envelopes.  you pop a couple
of tapes in the mail to me, i pop a cd in the mail to you.   and i think
that's quite enough of the word pop for one post.

one other thing.  i've got a couple of specific boot requests so the cd
goes to the firstperson to offer me any two of the following:  (if that
doesn't work, i'll open it up to any two boots but not yet)

in no particular order of preference:

syracuse 9/9/97 madison square garden 6/3/97 hofstra 3/16/97 roseland
8/14/96 any other boot with wild horses w/ mm any other boot from last
summer thathas both chiapas bound and winthrop any boot with cortez the
killer on it either of the recent florida shows where amy played r&j and
lastly, if by any miracle there exists and someone out there has a boot
from the show at cornell university on 12/4/94.  (does anybody at least
have a setlist from that show by any chance?  it's the only one i've been
to thati don't know the setlist and it bugs me.)

that's it:  two boots, one cd.  do i hear any takers?

            -colleen

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 22:05:30 -0400
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from:         carrie cheron <iudoremi@aol.com>
subject:      tee shirts

okay/  i definitely like the thanks y'all idea and if the girls or russell
ever see them i think they will laugh their asses off.
i also like the quote that rich sent out.  but i don't like the whole van
gogh starry night thing.  i may be the first in history but i hate that
painting.  way too commercialized.  not going for it.  sorry rich.  but i do
love the 2 girls in crayon child-like writing.
someone please do this.  i have no artistic abilities or connections at all!
carrie

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 21:08:03 -0500
reply-to:     "lisa m. schreihart" <lschreihart@juno.com>
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from:         "lisa m. schreihart" <lschreihart@juno.com>
subject:      list shirt solved, i hope

i like amy's "thanks, y'all!" idea.   i am
considering heading it up, since i did originally
post to say that i was ready and willing
to start this project a few weeks ago.
i liked rich benson's idea to include
the "darkness of night" quote on the
front, with "thanks, y'all!" on the back.
it seems very artistic and sorta mysterious
with the stars and midnight blue shirt.
it has more meaning that just doing
the "thanks, y'all!"  it says what we
are so thankful for.  i also think we
should include the list addy on it, since
it defines us as a group.  so, put amy's
idea together with the quote i found, and
have rich benson marry them, and it sounds
like quite an awesome shirt.

so, in summary:

midnight blue shirt with gold (or yellow, whatever
you want to call it) print, including some stars
surrounding the quote on front if it doesn't look
too cheesy:

front:

    "through every storm and the darkness of
             night comes a patch of indigo."

back:

                           "thanks, y'all!"

                 indigo-girls@netspace.org


i would imagine this idea gels with the faq,
right deb?  then, issue solved.  let's get it
going before we don't have any more concerts
to wear it to this year.

lisa s.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
date:    wed, 1 oct 1997 15:59:29 -0700
from:    amy mednick <amy1@alpeng.com>
subject: at the risk of beating a dead horse

i want a shirt that says, on the back, in artistic type:

thanks, y'all.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 20:14:23 -0500
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subject:      list-shirt idea - why flame me??

date:    wed, 1 oct 1997 12:30:20 -0400
from:    lynda <lynda@csg-soft.com>
subject: list t-shirt...enought already

>is it even possible to suck the life out of this tee shirt idea anymore?

well, lynda, i came home from a very inspirational ig weekend and
would have loved to start the shirt design that week and have it done
by now, but i e-mailed the list with enough respect to let
everyone in on my idea.  when the idea turned out to not be as good as
i at first thought, for legal reasons, this started a debate...a debate i
had
little power to stop.  now, why, with such a debate going, and so many
opinions out there, would i venture to spend my time, energy, and money
on a list shirt that may not sell very well and may get the list into
trouble?
it's a huge project and one that will need strong support from the list.
i think everyone who posts their opinions about a shirt has the right to
be
heard before a shirt gets made, anyway.  as far as "sucking the life out
of
this tee shirt idea", what issue hasn't been debated endlessly on this
list?
i can't tell you how many times i would have loved to stop some stupid
debate about flaming, etc. that i had to endlessly read about every time
i got my
digest.  so, what's so bad about a debate about list shirts?  is this
issue banned from the list?  is it not worthy of discussion?  if you are
all huffy about reading posts on it...most i am not posting
myself....then
don't read 'em, and don't respond to 'em, but do not flame me for
posting about something as neutral and non-evasive as
list shirts.  geez, girl, give me a break already.

and if you don't know enough to realize that it was me who originally
posted
about this idea and is nicely trying to reach some neutral ground on it
for
everyone, then you shouldn't comment so rashly about it.  get your facts
straight first before flaming "whoever".

one thing i'd like to say is thanks to deb reiser for being so calm and
collected, posting the facts about rcam's decisions about lyrics on
shirts,
and informing us all, whenever an issue is raised.  i don't hear her
saying
"enough already".  maybe she's thinking it, but i'd venture to guess that

she woudn't mind another project such as this starting up, as long as
it's
"legal".

lisa s.

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t-shirt: i like combination of thanks ya'll, igc, and stick girls (depends on
how good they are).  i like igc - "indigo girl content" or even "indigo,
inside."

and for the stick people, i've seen slightly curved stick figures (famous
artist i think).  for these i'd love to see stick girls with guitars that
somehow capture the essence of emily in intense guitar concentration and amy
in flight.  if you are clueless as to what i mean, just look at the inside
cover of 1200 curfews.  that's the feeling!

i tried to send this idea this morning but my connection got screwed up.
sorry it's late.  other t-shirt ideas have also been good.

-rosemary

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 22:53:24 -0400
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from:         lisa arthur <lisalisaa@aol.com>
subject:      a request and lilith news

hello all:

first, i am writing a story about the indigo girls and their visit to the
traditional seminole nation. i will be looking to quote a few south florida
people who attended the west palm show. if you are willing to be quoted,
please call me at my office: 954-985-4573.

second, i saw a little blurb in rolling stone that lillith is finally coming
to florida!!! it's going to be a preview show of the 1998 fair with ten bands
(no, i dont know yet if ig are playing this show or who the bands are.)

upon further sleuthing, i've discovered the show will be at coral sky in
mid-december. no date yet. will forward additional info when i get it. or
send it to me if anyone out there has it, please.

thanks.

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 22:59:53 +0000
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you gys all have great shit ideas but oooh i just remembered the shirt i
always wanted to have was real simple:

front:

peace (represented with peace sign) , love (represented with a heart), ig
or a&e (either one)

back:

what else is there??
indigo-girls@netspace.org

real simple, can be on a white shirt.  the figures can be drawn.  the peace
sign in yellow with a black outline, the heart in red with a black outline
and the ig or a&e whichever you guys like in (obviously) indigo!! the 3
figures on the front could be across or up &down, whatever!

whataya say???

c'mon...love it?...hate it?
let me know!!

rob

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 21:22:01 -0600
reply-to:     d obray <d.obray@m.cc.utah.edu>
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from:         d obray <d.obray@m.cc.utah.edu>
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i was just carousing the lifeblood site and under "releases" there is a
emily solo effort put out in 1983 called "here for you".  i've never even
heard of this, has anyone else?  more importantly does anyone have a copy
that they would be willing to share!

an emily person dying of curiosity,
diana

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 23:28:38 -0400
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from:         "ilana deutsch (wind80)" <wind80@aol.com>
subject:      boots

hey y'all,

a while back i asked if there was anyone out there who had the hartford, ct
boot from 5/97 or the msg 6/97...if anyone would be wiiling to make me a copy
of either please let me know - i'm getting desperate here! thanks.

ilana

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too late, he's already been ground into dog food which was consumed by my
ravenously hungry dog who then proceeded to try to eat the rough-draft of
my thesis (which is not on t-shirt messages).  so i used the remainder of
this proverbial dead horse to glue it back together before turning it into
my professor who's dream date has nothing to do with the ig playing!  :p


sid kirshner wrote :


>on wed, 1 oct 1997, amy mednick wrote:
>
>> i want a shirt that says, on the back, in artistic type:
>>
>> thanks, y'all.
>>
>
>yeah, yeah, yeah.  and on the front it should say:
>                igc!
>
>java

carry on,

nickleby

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*  hate me 'cause i'm gay.                  *
*  truth of the matter come around one day, *
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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 23:40:44 -0400
reply-to:     iudoremi@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         carrie cheron <iudoremi@aol.com>
subject:      rob's shirt

oops.  typing in the subject line and almost disobeyed a commandment for the
list.  but hey, i caught it before it went out.
ok, call me violent but i just don't like peace signs.  i'm gonna have to go
for the quote from rich and the thanks y'all.  those rock!
as do ig of course,
carrie

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 23:44:18 -0400
reply-to:     alisa greenberg <agreenb1@swarthmore.edu>
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from:         alisa greenberg <agreenb1@swarthmore.edu>
subject:      yay!
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yay!!!!!  shirt idea solved!  i am so psyched!  can't wait to buy one!!!!

incredibly happy and thankful,
alisa

"...it's a magical world, hobbes, ol' buddy...let's go exploring."
                                        -calvin's last words
                                               12.31.95

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 23:01:37 -0700
reply-to:     "cbergquist@voyager.net"@voyager.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         christian bergquist <"cbergquist@voyager.net"@voyager.net>
organization: soniac productions
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ok folks, i'm going to rather tentatively step out from lurking to say
that my folks and i happen to own a screen printing business. i say i'm
leery to offer this information because i don't want anyone to think i'm
looking to make a big profit from this shirt idea, but i could
definitely get us a great price on shirts. now i know someone already
said they had a screen printing company that would do the shirts and if
that person wants to do the ordering that is fine.

but if no one else wants to take on the task of receiving shirt orders,
getting the shirts printed and sent out to their respective new owners,
i will take on this part of the "list shirt" process. i would prefer to
have a list member do the shirt design (i love some of the ideas already
presented) and then have everyone vote on the design and shirt and ink
colors. we also must consider if we want 100% cotton or 50% cotton/50%
polyester t-shirts and if we also want to offer sweatshirts. (remember,
sweatshirts usually are a different color than t-shirts.)

so let me know if the list needs my assistance and i can get price
quotes.

-chris b.

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date:         sat, 3 oct 1987 00:39:03 -0500
reply-to:     mellie price <mellie@monsterbit.com>
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subject: hte 1997 tour finale
approved: musthavepassplease
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hey everyone!

well, tonight is the last show on the 21 stop 1997 honor the earth tour
featuring the indigo girls. what better place to celebrate our successes as
a campaign than missoula, montana...home of our victory at fort belknap!

as many of you know, we've been bringing a song a night to
www.honorearth.com. the final leg of the tour is now available on the www
site. the full concert from missoula will be available shortly in
celebration of the 1997 tour. enjoy!

we want to remind everyone that the only way to facilitate change is to
participate! if you were not able to go to a show you might not know about
the "action cards" we've been collecting. at every show we pass out
postcards with a political 'action' that needs to be taken. people sign the
cards with their names and addresses and we send them to political figures
to let them know that people care about what is happening to the earth. our
1997 focus is to ensure that president clinton upholds his promise to veto
the nuclear waste policy act of 1997. should this bill (hr 1270) pass, it
means nuclear waste will be transported across 43 states, many of which do
not have radioactive waste cleanup capabilities. after it travels through
our backyards, that same waste will be dumped on native lands that have a
history of earthquakes and fissures.      this nuclear waste policy act
makes no sense and we need your help stopping it.

we have collected over 15,000 action cards on this tour...from people like
you. if you haven't signed one, you can do so online at
www.honorearth.com/helpaction.html. we have about 2 weeks to get these cards
to washington, d.c. so as my mother use to say "make haste, not waste" and
fill them out sooner that later. please know that your voice does matter!

we also just started our semi-annual newsletter. twice a year we'll keep you
posted on upcoming shows, political calls to action and campaign successes.
all you need to do is sign the guestlist at www.honorearth.com

ok...and last but not least, the indigo girls signed 30 copies of the honor
the earth cd. for a donation of $75 to the honor the earth campaign, you
will recieve a signed copy of the honor cd and an honor the earth campaign
t-shirt. there are only 11 copies left. sorry, but it's first come first
serve! you can get one at www.honorearth.com or send an email to
hello@monsterbit.com. it's a great cd and a great campaign...and we need
your help! if that's too much for you...you can make a smaller contribution.

thanks for all the support all of ya'll have given the campaign. we really
couldn't have done it without you!

thanks again...

mellie price
honor the earth/monsterbit

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800 brazos st., suite 440       |       512.494.8882 fax
austin, tx 78701                |       mellie@monsterbit.com

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date:         fri, 3 oct 1997 00:05:46 -0500
reply-to:     owner-honor-announce@m2.monsterbit.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         owner-honor-announce@m2.monsterbit.com
subject:      hte 1997 tour finale

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hey everyone!
sender: owner-honor-announce
precedence: bulk

well, tonight is the last show on the 21 stop 1997 honor the earth tour
featuring the indigo girls. what better place to celebrate our successes as
a campaign than missoula, montana...home of our victory at fort belknap!

as many of you know, we've been bringing a song a night to
www.honorearth.com. the final leg of the tour is now available on the www
site. the full concert from missoula will be available shortly in
celebration of the 1997 tour. enjoy!

we want to remind everyone that the only way to facilitate change is to
participate! if you were not able to go to a show you might not know about
the "action cards" we've been collecting. at every show we pass out
postcards with a political 'action' that needs to be taken. people sign the
cards with their names and addresses and we send them to political figures
to let them know that people care about what is happening to the earth. our
1997 focus is to ensure that president clinton upholds his promise to veto
the nuclear waste policy act of 1997. should this bill (hr 1270) pass, it
means nuclear waste will be transported across 43 states, many of which do
not have radioactive waste cleanup capabilities. after it travels through
our backyards, that same waste will be dumped on native lands that have a
history of earthquakes and fissures.      this nuclear waste policy act
makes no sense and we need your help stopping it.

we have collected over 15,000 action cards on this tour...from people like
you. if you haven't signed one, you can do so online at
www.honorearth.com/helpaction.html. we have about 2 weeks to get these cards
to washington, d.c. so as my mother use to say "make haste, not waste" and
fill them out sooner that later. please know that your voice does matter!

we also just started our semi-annual newsletter. twice a year we'll keep you
posted on upcoming shows, political calls to action and campaign successes.
all you need to do is sign the guestlist at www.honorearth.com

ok...and last but not least, the indigo girls signed 30 copies of the honor
the earth cd. for a donation of $75 to the honor the earth campaign, you
will recieve a signed copy of the honor cd and an honor the earth campaign
t-shirt. there are only 11 copies left. sorry, but it's first come first
serve! you can get one at www.honorearth.com or send an email to
hello@monsterbit.com. it's a great cd and a great campaign...and we need
your help! if that's too much for you...you can make a smaller contribution.

thanks for all the support all of ya'll have given the campaign. we really
couldn't have done it without you!

thanks again...

mellie price
honor the earth/monsterbit

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monsterbit has moved!!!!!! please note the new address and phone:

monsterbit media                |       512.494.8881 vox
800 brazos st., suite 440       |       512.494.8882 fax
austin, tx 78701                |       mellie@monsterbit.com

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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 21:57:43 -0700
reply-to:     jason gernat <jasonpaul@mailexcite.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jason gernat <jasonpaul@mailexcite.com>
organization: mailexcite  (http://www.mailexcite.com)
subject:      pelham/birmingham, al show
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hey all,

i was just wondering if any listees are going to the pelham/birmingham, al show on
october 17th.  i am going with a few friends (lawn seating) and was wondering if
any of ya'll are going.  if so, please let me know, maybe we can meet before the
show or something.

love, peace, and indigo,
jason


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date:         thu, 2 oct 1997 22:46:44 -0700
reply-to:     "a. taub" <alisont@netcom.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "a. taub" <alisont@netcom.com>
subject:      michelle malone benefit announcement
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hi everyone,

at this point i have sent acknowledgements (e-mail) to everyone whom i've
gotten a check from (for the michelle malone virtual list benefit).  if
your check is in the mail, and you haven't heard that i've gotten it,
could you please send me an e-mail message to let me know that it's on the
way asap.  that way i can add it to the final tally and get a cashiers
check for the correct amount even if it doesn't make it until the last
minute.

we have collected about $450 so far, and i know there are a few more on
the way so --- we will make it to $500!!  that is terrific - if you think
about it, it's like *50* members of the ig list going to the eddies attic
benefit!  thanks to everyone who contributed, everyone who sent a card or
donation on their own to the p.o. box or eddies and everyone who is
sending michelle good wishes in their hearts - it's all worthwhile and i'm
sure will be appreciated.

alison  - alisont@netcom.com

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date:         fri, 3 oct 1997 03:23:40 -0400
reply-to:     cec8@cornell.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         colleen caffrey <cec8@cornell.edu>
subject:      re: free (almost) mm's devil moon
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sorry folks, this offer is now closed.  in retrospect ithink i'd have
made it either the best offer or a random selection from all offers
recieved in a say a week or something in order to give digesters and
less frequent email checkers a shot.  however, as stated the offer was to
the first offer i received so that's who it goes to.

and the lucky winner and soon to be owner of his very own copy of
michelle malone's cd, "beneath the devil moon" is...

    rob hite.

congratulations rob and thanks to everyone else who offered trades.

               -colleen

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date:         fri, 3 oct 1997 01:13:21 -0700
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from:         resa m <resa@ipeg.com>
subject:      christie mccarthy nigc
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sound files for your enjoyment. wish i could get a better signal but i =
heard enough to know i like her. i'll gamble $10 for her cd.

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date:         fri, 3 oct 1997 04:14:31 -0400
reply-to:     dcboarder@aol.com
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from:         "dawn r. cozzolino" <dcboarder@aol.com>
subject:      pictures

i have some pics of the indigo girls that i took when they were in laguna
seca in monterey, ca about 2 years ago.  i was right up front snappin away
like i'm usually doing.  if anyone wants copies, let me know.

dawn

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date:         fri, 3 oct 1997 01:35:43 -0700
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from:         resa m <resa@ipeg.com>
subject:      christie mccarthy again
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date:         fri, 3 oct 1997 04:32:23 -0400
reply-to:     cec8@cornell.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         colleen caffrey <cec8@cornell.edu>
subject:      re: caroline aiken in october
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on thu, 2 oct 1997, machado wrote:

> as caroline aiken cruises the east coast on her way to the philly area, the
(snip)

> october 4, 1997: 12 corners coffeehouse, 1200 s. winton rd, rochester ny


i'm going.  canyou believe i convinced some friends to drive 2 hours to go
see some random folk singer they've never heard of at a coffeehouse that
is apparantly in a church?  (this i learned after emailing lorene machado
to ask where the 12 corners coffeehouse was since directory assistance
didn't have it listed. no wonder, it's within the 12 corners first
presbyterian church.) talk about faith. (that is the faith my friends have
in me, i honestly didn't even notice the church pun until after i wrote
it.) i certainly hope they have a good time.  i'm sure i will.  anyone
else gonna be there?

        -colleen

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date:         fri, 3 oct 1997 08:46:36 -0400
reply-to:     mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>
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from:         mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>
subject:      (nigc)disappear fear [aka: sonia]
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hey y'all-

for *disappear fear* fans on the list:

i just got her new fall schedule...

she's now sans band & is going by the name: sonia of disappear fear

her new solo record "almost chocolate" will be available: jan 1998

fri oct 03   the cellar, penn st u      univ park, pa    814-863-4659
sat oct 04   del pride, rodney sq       wilmington, de   302-328-1351
sat oct 11   the birchmere              alexandria, va   703-549-7500
sat oct 18   tin angel                  philadelphia, pa 215-928-0770
tue oct 21   seven stages @ l5p         atlanta, ga      404-589-8855
wed oct 22   tba     tentative          nashville, tn    616-591-2456
sat oct 25   bowl me over @ rock n bowl new orleans, la  504-482-3113
sun oct 26   port allen com. center     port allen, la   504-344-1145
thu oct 30   schubas tavern             chicago, il      773-525-2508

sat nov 01   blue moon coffeehouse
                il wesleyan univ        bloomington, il  609-556-3113
tue nov 04   suny                       syracuse, ny     315-464-5618
fri nov 07   first u.u. coffeehouse     rockport, ma     508-546-2989
sat nov 08   club passim                cambridge, ma    617-492-7679
thu nov 13   down home                  johnson city, tn 423-929-9822
sat nov 15   grey eagle  tentative      black mtn, nc    615-591-2456
wed nov 19   8    10    tentative      baltimore, md    410-625-2000

late nov in europe: amsterdam; copenhagen; & germany

(i tried to check carefully for typos - that's a lot of #s)

for info/mailing list:  in your face promotions
                        po box 158435
                        nashville, tn 37215
                        voice/fax 615-591-2456
                        e-mail: <merchandise@disappearfear.com>

sorry for so much nigc (tho a&e sang backup on the "disappear fear"
album) - if sonia rutstein is going solo now (like michelle malone &
caroline aiken, among other folk/rock artists) - she deserves all the
support that folk/rock fans (many of whom happen to be gay, as is sonia)
- can give her, by showing our support by going to see her, imho...

peace...
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           "what a poor appearance the tales of the poets
            make stripped of the colors which music puts
            upon them, and recited in simple verse."
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date:         fri, 3 oct 1997 09:24:14 -0400
reply-to:     nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
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from:         nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
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checked the local winston-salem paper for the 10/20 ig concert at wake
forest university. doesn't say sold out - still advertising ticketmaster
as the number for tickets ($27.50).

my $.02: they're going to be playing in a beautiful venue - wait chapel
is just that, a chapel. but with _great_ acoustics. so if you have the
opportunity to see them here, please do.

nigc: checked the tv listings, joan baez is on "the view" this morning
and david crosby & son will be on the late late show with tom snyder.

n.


nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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date:         fri, 3 oct 1997 16:08:40 +0100
reply-to:     danny.verheezen@skynet.be
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from:         danny verheezen <danny.verheezen@skynet.be>
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the cd 'in with the out crowd' was recorded in :
shepards bush/uk(track 1untill 9) november 1994
glastonbury festival(track10 untill 13) june,24 1995
studio accoustiv version(track 14)

track listing:
fugitive
galileo
hammer and a nail
this train
least complicated
ghost
chickenman
kid fears
closer to fine
bury my heart...
power of two
closer to fine
three hits
cortez the killer

bye,

danny verheezen


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rob
nice thought, really.  but i think the whole peace and love thing has been
way overdone.  i wouldn't want something so cliche to be involved with the
indigo girls or this list.  i still like the idea of the midnight blue
shirt with the stars.  you just can't beat that quote.
tabatha

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so are we still doing this, or what?  maybe i'm late, but this took thought...

1.  alec baldwin
2.  william baldwin
3.  josh segal (without the bleached hair)
4.  anthony edwards
5.  patrick stewart
6.  harrison ford
7.  tommy lee jones
8.  chris o'donnell
9.  aiden quinn
10. greg flamer (not that i even know what he looks like, but......)

rich benson
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i descend
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count me in for the crayon stick figure and the "thanks y'all" on back.

--kelly

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october 3
ljusko@netexp.net (lori jusko)
happy birthday, lori!

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whew!  bg the fourth has been really busy lately.  for a clue as to why,
you could check my homepage.  something about a play (hint, hint).
anyway, i really want to keep up on this, so be expecting these birthday
announcements before the birthdays being announced....  :)

anna

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what you'll be doing for the rest of your life." --annie dillard
http://narnia.emu.edu/pub/students/creechal/creechal.htm

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at 07:17 pm 10/2/97 -0400, you wrote:
>i just got the boot from the montreal lilith fair and was listening to
>closer to fine...who is the third woman that sings?  it is driving me crazy!
>
>alisa

meredith brooks (of "b*tch" fame)

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hey, y'all.

        well, i decided to come out of lurkdom and share my idea for a list
shirt.  i designed one of the birthday cards presented which accompanied
the honor the earth donation presented to amy in austin (i think?)  and i
think that the it might translate well into a shirt.  it was a painting of
a sun/moon combination- half of the circle was a sun and the other, a
profile of the moon.  where the portions came together, so did the hybrid's
face.  it had a rather tranquil expression, as i remember.  i'm kicking
myself for not taking a slide of it, but oh, well.  anyway, i thought that
the design would look nice printed on the left breast and then the list
address printed on the back.  ideally, i'd love to see "we own nothing,
nothing is ours.  not even love so fierce it burns like baby stars."
encircling the design, but copyright prevails, i'm afraid.  the quote kind
of captures the essence of the whole copyright debate, though.  anyway, i
see the shirt being a deep indigo and the design in brilliant reds,
yellows, oranges, and blues.  the list address could be a color that works
well with the shirt as a whole. the only thing is that printing a shirt
with so many colors is rather difficult when one uses basic silkscreening
techniques and i don't have access to advanced supplies.   so someone else
would have to print the shirts.  well, that's my happy, little shirt idea,
take it or leave it.  let me know if you think it's a good one.

                take care and be happy,

                        sarah :-)

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"there are no happy endings  because nothing ends." -smendrick, the last
unicorn

"you can talk a great philosophy, but if you can't be kind to people
everyday then
        it doesn't mean that much to me." -ani difranco


                       "there will always be stars in the wind
                         little lines on your face when you grin
                         and when it looks like you've done it again
                         and you just don't know where to begin
                         there will always be something to believe in."
                                      -shawn colvin

"and where does magic come from?  i think that magic's in the learning."
                -dar williams

"you have to laugh at yourself  because you'd cry your eyes out if you
didn't."  -emily saliers

"there are a lot of people who figure prominently in your life that you may
only nod to; it's
         better to stop and say hello." -amy ray

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speaking of nigc birthdays:

kristen hall is next playing at eddie's attic on oct 18... and...

kristen hall's birthday is oct 23 (#34). (and right between a&e's #34)
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hi everyone,

the las vegas hte setlist guesses have trickled to a stop.  my executive
decision is:  the game will officially end at midnight today (friday,
october 3).  so if you are still running statistical analyses on the
setlists from the past year, it's time to wrap it up, and send your guess
on in!

so far, there is no 9 out of 9 winner, and there is a multi-way tie for 8
out of 9, so i don't really know what i'll do.  come on - make it easy
for me - someone guess the whole thing correctly!

winners and the whole boring setlist will be announced saturday or
sunday, depending on how long it takes me to finish tallying things up.

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"misanthropy, yes, misogyny, no" - peter greenaway
alison  -  alisont@netcom.com

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hi everyone,
        i'm fairly new to the list and unfortunately my email service
doesn't like me getting this many messages so i may have to sign off soon.
but i'm interested in getting some 'basic' boots if there is such a thing.
i will only be able to trade postage and blank tapes.  i'm also interested
in copies of any toronto concerts since i was probably at those or the
toronto lilith fair or even other canadian lilith fairs.  if you can help
me out please email privately at 4sel1@qlink.queensu.ca.
                thanks,
                                sarah

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....and its robins birthday (or rather it was) september 30, and big 57!
sorry for the lateness ;)

gotcha
c

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hey y'all-

is there anyone on the list who is a personal friend of kristen hall's -

who actually knows the *correct* date of her birthday?

if you don't want to tell the list, please e-mail privately.

i had heard that it was oct 23... i've had 2 e-mails:
        one person said oct 24... other person said oct 26...

so, which is it?  october 23 or 24 or 26, 1963  (assuming 1963 is right)

(i've decided to never post a something which i believe to be a fact to
the list, without qualifying it by saying, "but i could be wrong...")
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howdy folks, just wondering about a couple things:

(1)  does anyone know if the sheetmusic book for sots is out?  coming out
soon?  coming out at all?  i just started playing guitar about a year ago,
so i don't know how long it usually takes those things after the album
comes out...

(2)  i remember a rumor in the spring that there was going to be no fall
college tour this year after hte, so the ig could go back to the studio
and finish their next album -- what happened to that story?  not that i
have a problem with there being thousands more happy people in the world
who got to see ig live, but...  i simply *need* to have winthrop on a cd!

thanks for the help, folks,
deb the indigeek

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i know this has prob been discussed before, but i dint find out i could go till
today.....

does anyone know how to get dayton oh tickets?  ticketmaster has nada, and i
hunted the u of dayton pages with no luck.  anyone know where i can buy a few
tickets?

tia for any info..
-brendan
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i dunno if it's been posted...but
r&j as well as many other hte tour songs are online now and can be heard
using realaudio.....
so, if you need you weekend amy fix......
check out
http://www.honorearth.com/tournetcast.html

dave
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gotta learn to respect what we don't understand
we are fortunate ones, fortunates ones, i swear."
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here's the text of an article which appeared recently (9/26/97) in the
catholic  university of america's student newspaper, the tower.  reprinted
without permission.

_______________________________________________________________

musicians unite to defend mother earth
andrew crepeau
tower staff

on an appropriately sunless, overcast afternoon, a rather impressive showing
of reporters, representing such recognizable and renowned news sources as
cbs news, the associated press, and the tower, gathered for a press
conference to hear various spokepeople pleading on behalf of our voiceless
and suppressed mother earth.

at the base of the capitol steps, panelists ranging from indigo girls,
bonnie raitt, jackson browne, senators and activists, hoping to serve as
catalysts for change, sat before us and spoke out against a proposed nuclear
waste site in nevada.

legislation is now before congress that would allow canisters filled with
lethal radioactive waste to travel on roads and railways across the country
and end up on land of the western shoshone nation at yucca mountain, nevada.
this traveling disaster-waiting-to-happen, labelled "mobile chernobyl,"
would be deposited on a cement slab on a field on front of this sacred
mountain.

indigo girls have been supporters of indigenous peoples for years.  amy ray,
half of the grammy-award winnign duo, explained:  "back in 1993, indigo
girls, along with the indigenous environmental network, the indigenous
woman's network,  and the seventh generation fund started a campaign called
'honor the earth.'  we tour once every tour season.  we raise money and
public awareness in support of grassroots indian environmental organizations."

in 1995, the indigo girls' "honor the earth tour" raised over $300,000 for
distribution among 41 different organizations and was the largest single
fundraising effort in the history of native american activism.

this year's tour will focus on raising public awareness of -- and opposition
to -- the plans for nuclear waste storage on native american lands.

to stimulate recognition by the press, indigo girls joined forces with the
other musicians for the press conference, and their noteable presence was
professional, yet heartfelt.  "we're here to tell y'all that nuclear power
is dirty, dangerous, and it's a bad deal," emily saliers of indigo girls
said as she started off her statement.  "we'd like to see a shift in the
american paradigm -- in the context of energy -- how we're thinking about
using it.  we'd like to encourage conserving energy, making it more
energy-efficient, and phasing in these new, alternative energies that don't
involve storing toxic waste which stays lethal for 250,000 years," saliers
continued.

"we have been on the road for three weeks," ray said.  "we've played up and
down the east coast [and] we have collected 11,000 political action cards
against this bill.  we've talked to newspapers, we've talked to our fans,
and to people in the world who are against this legislation.  we have our
finger on the pulse, we believe, and we're just here to stand in solidarity
with people from all over the united states, along with the western shoshone
nation, to say that this bill shouldn't pass."

it is easy to pass judgment and say that indigo girls, and the other
celebrities, are not personally affected by this proposed legislation.  one
could even go the extreme of assuming that they are speaking out merely as a
ploy for attention and publicity.  honestly, that assumption is not
completely false, but the expected results are not as superficial as one
might think.

this bill and its repercussions does have a personal affect [sic] on these
artists.  they have spent personal time and money, and the publicity they
ahve sought has been to directly benefit this cause.

bonnie raitt ended the press conference by saying, "the politicians get a
lot of their say from teh companies that can afford to buy the op/ed page in
the new york times, and we're trying to say something for the people that
can't afford television advertising and make back-room deals.  we're a
mirror for the populous [sic] -- whatever people are thinking about, that's
what we're singing about.  it's not just an isolated group of people with
nothing better to do."

wednesday night, indigo girls were joined on stage by raitt, jackson browne,
john trudell, native american a cappella trio ulali, and other for a "no
nukes" benefit concert at warner theater.

naturally, the concert's theme revolved around indigenous issues.  the show
opened with john trudell reciting poetry accompanied by a native american
chanter.  next, jackson browne made a special appearance singing four sings,
one of which from [sic] his new greatest hits collection.

after a 20-minute intermission, indigo girls took the stage, kicking off
their set with their latest hit, "shame on you."  they then dug deep into
their repertoire to perform "tried to be true," a song from their first album.

during their eight-song set, indigo girls did not lose focus on the night's
main purpose, including native american influenced songs like "scooter boys"
and "shed your skin."

bonnie raitt, after antoher brief break, finished the concert off with a
poerful and moving set.  indigo girls joined her on stage for "angel from
montgomery."

all the performers tookt he stage for a rousing final encore, reiterating
the reason for their participation, with buffy saint-marie's "bury my herat
at wounded knee."

as the night drew to a close, my mind swarmed with the issues of the day,
and bonnie raitt's closing comments at the press conference resonated in my
conscience.  "we're citizens of the planet first.  we all have homelands, we
all have families that are dealing with these issues.  i am speaking out. .
. because basically we're trying to get this story on something other than
page 26 in a two-inch column.  and, frankly, if we were't sitting up here,
you guys probably wouldn't be here."

____________________________________________________

for the record, this article appeard on pp. 13-14 of a 20-page issue.

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unsubstantiated rumor!!!!!!!
i've been told..no, scratch that, my girlf.....no, scratch that, michelle
has been told that the tickets are going on sale oct. 15.  i know nothing
else :(.  those sneacky ticket people at ud.
jill
p.s.i will find this out for you guys if it's the last thing i do.
p.p.s. the hotel-room sleepover is a go!  woo-hoo, sleepin' with the
indigo guys n' gals....:) but let's not think about that just yet.  first,
the tickets......
jill again.

on fri, 3 oct 1997, brendan m. white wrote:

> i know this has prob been discussed before, but i dint find out i could go till
> today.....
>
> does anyone know how to get dayton oh tickets?  ticketmaster has nada, and i
> hunted the u of dayton pages with no luck.  anyone know where i can buy a few
> tickets?
>
> tia for any info..
> -brendan
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date:         fri, 3 oct 1997 17:42:34 -0500
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does anyone know how much the dayton tix are going to be?  allright indigo
fanatics, i'm off to see dar in chicago!  bye bye!
:-) karen

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date:         fri, 3 oct 1997 18:20:47 -0400
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nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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date:         fri, 3 oct 1997 18:34:17 -0400
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the songbook for "1200 curfews" is yet to be published. last word i heard
from ladyslipper was they were waiting for the igs to proof it and they
were on tour (spring tour just before the release of sots), so that was
the delay. i can email them again for a status on this songbook, but i
have a feeling the story will be the same - the igs have been touring and
haven't had a chance to proof it. when this is done, it'll be sent to the
publisher.

have no idea of when the songbook for sots will be released - but i can
imagine the scenario is the same as for 1200c. has anyone seen any sheet
music for soy or gotm?

their other songbooks: ig,sf,nis,rop,so are all available from
ladyslipper. they're _very_ nice to deal with over the phone or via email.
their www site is http://www.ladyslipper.org - phone (800)634-6044 - email
address is orders@ladyslipper.org

i contacted them via their www site and got a very prompt reply on what
was going on with the 1200c songbook.

nancy humphries
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hey, found a quick blurb on dar williams in todays
startribune....sorry if it's a repost, i have over 800 pieces of list
mail, so i haven't read today's yet.  for those of you who wonder,
really, how much mail this list gets per day, let's just say i'm only
on 16 sept, alright? :)

music: dar williams
playing 8 p.m. sat., o'shaughnessy education center, university of st.
thomas, 2115 summit av., st. paul.  $15.  612.645-2647.

williams' new album may be called "end of the summer" but this
new-englander's folk-pop belongs in any season.  she has a
conversational style, an eye for detail, a warm voice and a winning
sense of humor.  this third album, her most ambitious and most
produced, suggests a caffeinated suzanne vega with disarming humor
("teenagers kick our butts" is a silly dead-on slap at parents.)
williams charmed the masses at lilith fair at canterbury park even
though precious few could actually see her on the mammoth stage.  the
decidedly more intimate o'shaugnessy education center at the
university of st. thomas promises to be a more fitting setting, even
though it's not known for presenting pop-music concerts.  (this event
is sponsered by gingko coffeehouse in st. paul.)
-jon bream

i can testify to the litith part!  minneapolis was the biggest crowd
they had (at least for the entirety of the american tour part) and she
rocked!

amanda

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chris b--

thanks for offering to finally get something started.  i'm in favor of the
100% cotton, definitely.

-----let's get this show (shirt?) on the road!

kelly

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subject:      binghamton tix

hey,

is there anyone out there who goes to binghamton, knows anyone who goes to
binghamton, or has any connections to binghamton whatsoever that can possibly
get me 2 tix to the concert??? i'm dying to go but i don't have anyway of
getting tix. please someone out there show your mercy for a fellow fan and
help me out. thanks.....

ilana

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date:         sat, 4 oct 1997 01:18:07 -0400
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subject:      chords, etc

ok i was advised to send this to the list so i am. =)
i have two sites for you for almost all of the girls' songs.  they are:

http://music.lsds.com/guitar/i/indigo_girls/
and our aol indigo girls webpage created by the wonderful susans16:
<a href="http://members.aol.com/ndygogrls/index.html">indigo girls home page<
/a>
enjoy!
carrie

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date:         sat, 4 oct 1997 02:54:57 -0400
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hi, y'all,
someone posted about a week or so ago about seeing cooper seay in a movie.
the out on film festival in atlanta is coming up soon, and i can't
remember the name of the dern movie to find out if it's gonna be here!
so, could whoever posted that info please email me privately?
thanks,
amy
stu6361@westga.edu

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date:         sat, 4 oct 1997 13:50:57 edt
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subject:      boots

hey everyone.
i'm making a last plea for boots.
anything.
even if someone can just get me started with one...
it would be great.
i can only trade a blank of course.
thanks for any replies.
bye.
jami

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hi everyone-
thanks to all who answered my question about which film cooper was in.  i
now know to look for "inn trouble".
gracias!
amy

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hey folks,

another fan in need of a little assistance. i don't have this. please send
to her, not me!! and many thanks to those who help and 'take under their
wing' these new traders! wonderful.
we are fortunate ones,
joe


date: thu, 2 oct 1997 18:00:31 -0400 (edt)
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resent-date: thu,  2 oct 97 18:00:09 est
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first of all let me say your archive is awesome. second of all i was
wondering if you by any chance have color me grey? i'll pay anything.

-ashley  phishbeer@aol.com

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subject:      missing songs

hey fellow listys,

is there anyone out there with any of the following songs on a boot and would
you be willing to arrange a trade?  the songs i'm looking for are:

ballad of squeaky fromme
bartender's blues
fire and rain
i shall be released
knockin' on heaven's door
problem child
summer highland falls
wild, wild party at the loquat tree

thanks so much for any help you folks can give.

peace and ig,

pam
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got my cassettes (2) and the transcript of the 9/25/97 npr "all things
considered" broadcast. here's the transcript (reprinted without permission):

shaming of the sun

liane hansen: and i'm liane hansen.

        for 16 years now, emily saliers and amy ray have been partners,
making music together and writing and recording. this is their sixth
studio album.

(begin audio clip - soy)

lh: the indigo girls' recently released "shaming of the sun," was -- well
in a press release, it says 'four months in the making.' i don't believe
it. it sounds like it has taken a lifetime. the lyrics shift and change
and grow dimensionally with each hearing. the music is that perfect blend
of knock your socks off rock and roll and hair stand-on-end ballad. twelve
songs -- six by emily, six by amy. it really seems like the democratic
republic of the indigo girls:  divided straight down the middle.

(laughter)

es: well, i just -- it is pretty democratic actually, in the best sense of
the word. amy and i -- we're very different musically. you know, i'm a
little more -- have tended to be narrative style, more write -- some of
my songs are more like an english paper. i tend to be more of a ballad
writer and so i have a higher voice and a little bit softer although deep
inside me, i want to be writing the songs amy writes. so, it's like i get
to live two musical lives and i think that's the key to our musical
partnership.

lh: amy...

ar: yeah. i mean, i agree. i think we're polarized. i tend to be more
aggressive and a little more outspoken sometimes, and probably speak
before i think about it too, sometimes. and in my songs, i've moved
actually from being pretty abstract and sort of stream of consciousness
into being just more blunt. but i think we've survived for this long
because we give each other our own spaces. that's -- it's like you have
an independence, you know, in your relationship.

(audio clip of batl)

lh: the song you do, "burn all the letters," political story, personal
story, combination of both?

es: combination of both definitely. it started out personal and just
became political. i think in a lot of amy's and my travels, we've come
across a lot of activists, especially in the native american communities.
started reading up on, you know, some of the united state's government
involvement in central and latin american countries and thinking about
the way that large power systems infiltrate personal lives. it's a love
song, but also in the context of all it, the people we've met whose lives
have been torn apart by infiltration, i couldn't help but think about
that kind of experience and what that would feel like and that's how 'burn
all the letters' started out, as a love song and then became this sort of
sentiment of: we have to keep something for ourselves sacred and personal
and private, and the only way we can do that is to burn the physical
evidence of it.

(audio clip of batl)

lh: tell us about the ulali women who are singing backup.

es: (to amy) where did we first meet those guys?

lh: was that on your tour? the honor the earth tour....

es: the honor the earth tour -- yeah, that's right.

ar: it was the honor the earth tour in '93. they're just -- they're
amazing. three women, multi -- it's a weird mix. they, like they blend
like african and gospel and folk and celtic and traditional indian sort
of music together and it's like vocalizing, in a serious way. i mean,
their harmonies are impeccable.

(audio clip of ulali)

(audio clip of "leeds" - piano)

lh: emily, there is a stretch for you on this recording. the ballad that
you do leeds...

es: leeds

lh: you bet. you play the piano. is it true you really only started
taking piano lessons, what, only a few years ago?

es: ah, just -- i guess it was last year. amy and i took a year off after
we finished  our last honor the earth tour in '95 and i took lessons
during that year for the first time. what i do on piano is very simple.
you know, big fat dark chords and it was a perfect vehicle for the lyrics
for 'leeds.' after some personal problems and we were touring europe, i
think it rained for three weeks straight on that tour, you remember that?
this...

ar: yeah

es: you know how europe can be when it's wet and dark and old, and
there's all those old churches and steeples against the sky, and
everything starts swirling around emotionally. and i just wrote some of
those notes down in a notebook i had.

(audio clip of leeds)

lh: both of you are on the road. you're in washington today as part of
the tour that you're on. i guess you can say you're hurdling through time
and space.

(laughter)

es: always

lh: always. how long have you been on the road this time?

es: we started back in march. we'll tour up through the holiday season
and then we're going to australia at the beginning of next year. and then
we have some special plans. and then we'll probably quit sometime in the
summer and prepare for the next album.

lh: this one has so many references to being home and away, being at a
distance, maps...

es: yeah.

lh: ...hotel rooms. how do you make a home?

es: well i do have a relationship and so i have to consider that in
balance for being on the road and both amy and i love to travel though.
we like our lives on the road. i consider that part of the balance of my
life that's necessary. i probably couldn't be happy without it. but you
know, if you're in a relationship and you're traveling all the time, you
have to be very diligent about maintaining communication with your
partner, and making sure that you go home enough, so that you can stay in
touch with your home life, so -- and i feel very grateful, because i have
it good on the road and i have it good at home.

(audio clip of gotm)

lh: emily saliers and amy ray are the indigo girls. their recently
released recording is called "shaming of the sun."

nancy humphries
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subject:      nigc thanks boots

well,
thanks for so many responses.
you guys are great.
now i'll be able to help out
others in no time.
bye.
jami
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date:         sat, 4 oct 1997 21:16:12 -0400
reply-to:     mrbcom@aol.com
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subject:      re: ig  "4-front magazine"

howdy,

thanks for the positive feedback
to my article, i felt all warm and
fuzzy for a couple of days.

to the people who wanted a
copy,  it is a "freebie" and can
easily fit into a manilla envelope.
i would just need postage, etc.

i'm happy to report that it hit the
local newsstands yesterday and
the girls fill the whole cover, no
other photo insets or copy are used.

it's a full color glossy shot with a
sort of mosaic effect to it.  i was
pleased and quite surprised that
they made the girls the focus of
the issue.  the article even got
the centerfold pages.

thanks again for all the kind words...

michael  :-)

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date:         sat, 4 oct 1997 21:25:36 -0400
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from:         "<judi sobecki>" <nvrbthsame@aol.com>
subject:      linda--i'm an idiot  (nigc)

really, really, really sorry to post to the list, but...

i need linda to e-mail me because i lost her addy. due to circumstances
beyond my control. (those circumstances being that i'm a bone-head and i
accidentally deleted your last e-mail.  being stupid is beyond my control,
right??)

thanks!
j

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date:         sat, 4 oct 1997 21:49:08 -0700
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did i miss something???  does anyone know why npr chose not to archive
the ig segment of all things considered (atc) broadcast on sep 25?  the
program listings (rundowns) show ig on the 9/25 broadcast, but the
archived (realaudio)version isn't complete --- no igc.  just thought i'd
ask politely before i vent... (atc@npr.org).

private email ok.  thanks,  rosemary

archived atc programs
http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/970925.atc.html
program listings (rundowns)
http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/rundowns/1997/sep/atc.09.25.97

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 01:59:59 -0400
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on sat 4 oct 21:49 -0700(pdt)  rosemary wrote:
> did i miss something???  does anyone know why npr chose not to
> archive the ig segment of all things considered (atc) broadcast
> on sept 25? the program listings (rundowns) show ig on the 9/25
> broadcast, but the archived (realaudio)version isn't complete
> --- no igc. just thought i'd ask politely before i
> vent... (atc@npr.org).

back around sept 25 folks expressed a lot of disappointment about the ig
clip not being included on the npr/atc realaudio site, and requests went
out for anyone who may have recorded it to kindly make boots (&
naturally listers came forth to offer). however, no one really
questioned "why?" at the time - just a lot of igspressed frustration.

my personal opinion as to why:
perhaps either rcam or epic/sony either requested that or refused to
allow it to be included...
or - (guess #2) npr, being no dummies, knew that all the little ig fans
out there would want it, so why give it away, when npr can force folks
to buy it from them (the ig interview spot *is* included on both the
transcript & cassette) available for purchase for *only* $24.95...

in my opinion - guess #2 is the most probable cause. in which case
"venting" at npr would be permissible... although npr is great and
probably needs all the money it can get... (& is also desperately in
need of an atlanta area sta, btw)

but i could be wrong... and i have a proven list track record of doing
so.  ;o)

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date:         sat, 4 oct 1997 23:30:35 -0700
reply-to:     "a. taub" <alisont@netcom.com>
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michelle malone virtual benefit - final update

here is the final tally on the virtual benefit:

there were donations totalling $517.   one was a check for $18
made out to michelle herself, so counting that separately, that makes
$499 total in donations for the group check.   naturally, i got a postal
money order for a round $500.

the money order and all the collected cards will be express mailed to lisa
dupre in georgia on monday morning, to arrive tuesday.  lisa, together
with some other list members, will deliver the donation to michelle or a
representative at the eddie's attic benefit on wednesday, and i'm sure
they'll report back about how it went.

i will enclose a short note explaining that the donation is from
michelle's collective fans in cyber space, and i will put the list address
as a signature of sorts.

that's about it.  if i forgot to mention something that you want to know,
just e-mail me.


"misanthropy, yes, misogyny, no" - peter greenaway
alison  -  alisont@netcom.com

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 17:14:32 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey all,

well, i'm back from one of the best weeks of my life, playing
badminton at the australian university games down in melbourne.
what a great time - i'd forgotten how much fun the games always
are.  i got to see shawn colvin too, as an added bonus.  yay. :)

anyway.  hm.  where to start.  i did take a computer with me
and managed to grab some of my mail from the start of the week,
but it wasn't working too well so i gave up about tuesday.  i've
just finished going through all my backed-up mail.  you guys
have been, um... busy... all right...

oh, before i forget - time for two new songs of the week.  this
week's songs are "make it easier" and "you left it up to me".

i'm just going to mention a couple of things that jumped out at
me from the 1,400 messages i just went through...

lmd21@aol.com wrote, way back at the start of the week:
>   i remember from awhile back that someone posted about 1200 curfews...you
> could skip back to -.02 seconds or something before your cd player would
> actually start the song, and there would be over lay.. this probably makes no

that was me, actually.  it happens in a couple of places but i'll
just give one example - if you put disc 2 in your cd player, flip
to the start of track 6 ("mystery"), then hold down the
fast-backwards key it will actually go all the way up to .30 or
so.  if you let go the key, the numbers start counting downwards
from .30 to .00.  when "mystery" starts, the numbers start going
upwards from .00 again.  i don't think you can see this on all
cd players though - on some it just displays "0.00" the whole
time rather than counting down from .30 to .00.  i guess it all
depends on how the cd player handles it.

lastly, nic nelson asked:
>one more thing: did i understand correctly that there is no problem
>with the list's powers-that-be regarding the use of the list-site?

well, conditionally - no, no problem.  as long as no copyrights
are infringed or anything, the list is in general agreement about
the concept and design, and jude and i personally don't have any
objections.  as it says in the faq, we do reserve the right to
veto the use of the list name at any point, but i can't see
either myself or jude actually invoking that right except in some
extreme circumstance...

anyway, i'm really too tired to be making much sense.  i'm glad
to be back, even if it does mean the end of a wonderful week
away.  happy happy everyone,
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"and i act like i have faith and like that faith never ends,
  but i really just have friends..."   - dar williams

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 07:46:39 -0400
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subject:      nigc: etheridge

hey, i'm looking for some melissa etheridge stuff, tapes, video,
pictures..whatever. and i'm willing to pay up for it. so e-mail me please if
you can help me out.
duff

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 10:16:18 -0400
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subject:      shame on you - midi

hi friends,

      i had the pleasure (i think) of downloading a pleasantly irritating
midi version of "shame on you." there's just one bad note in there that
really gets to ya, but it's not bad overall.

      e-mail me and i'll send it to anyone interested. (indigogrl@aol.com)

  thanks!

    annie

"every thought's a possibility"

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 10:31:31 -0400
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hey y'all!

would the kind soul who gave deb reiser the set list to the elmira college
show in elmira ny back in march please email me?  i have to ask you a
question....

peace, love and ig-
karrie


ps.  i really like the thanks y'all shirt idea.....  :)

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 09:24:50 -0500
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jill certo wrote:
>
> unsubstantiated rumor!!!!!!!
> i've been told..no, scratch that, my girlf.....no, scratch that, michelle
> has been told that the tickets are going on sale oct. 15.  i know nothing
> else :(.  those sneacky ticket people at ud.
> jill
> p.s.i will find this out for you guys if it's the last thing i do.
> p.p.s. the hotel-room sleepover is a go!  woo-hoo, sleepin' with the
> indigo guys n' gals....:) but let's not think about that just yet.  first,
> the tickets......
> jill again.
>
> on fri, 3 oct 1997, brendan m. white wrote:
>
> > i know this has prob been discussed before, but i dint find out i could go till
> > today.....
> >
> > does anyone know how to get dayton oh tickets?  ticketmaster has nada, and i
> > hunted the u of dayton pages with no luck.  anyone know where i can buy a few
> > tickets?
> >
> > tia for any info..
> > -brendan
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do you mean dayton, ohio?  if so, it means god has answered my prayers.
it seems that for the past year i have had to miss every ig concert
b/c it was impossible for me to get there- even in memphis this coming
week.  i live in memphis, but i have midterms at my school in indiana,
so there's no way i can be at the show.  please email me back with any
info about the show, but not at this address.  my email address
at school is abolton@depauw.edu    i will be back there tonight.
thank you- anna

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 10:14:41 -0400
reply-to:     kristina d vaskys <cheesehed@juno.com>
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subject:      re: ig on atc not archived

mel wrote:
>back around sept 25 folks expressed a lot of disappointment about the
>ig clip not being included on the npr/atc realaudio site, and requests
>went out for anyone who may have recorded it to kindly make boots (&
>naturally listers came forth to offer).

i'll offer mine up again, in case anyone missed it the first time, still
wants it, and doesn't want to pay a whole bunch of $$ for the tape &
transcript from npr. it only requires a 60 min. tape, and i can stick
other stuff on it, too, because the interview isn't all that long. so
email me if you do want it, and i can send you my address, you can send
me a blank, and everyone will be happy. :o)

kristina :o)

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 14:11:48 -0400
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from:         kathleen flaherty <kef1330@aol.com>
subject:      caroline aiken last night (igc)

hey list

just saw caroline last night in rochester, ny.  wow!  she is an amazing
guitar player (and singer).

here's just a little bit of trivia which most of you may already know...

caroline has known a & e since they (the ig) were 16 and 17 yrs old
respectively.
back in the early '80's, caroline played at the little 5 points pub on tues,
wed, & thurs nights.  when she moved to new york she gave up that spot to the
indigo girls.  caroline told me she thought that was in 1981, but i don't
know if that's right.  the girls would still have been in high school.

go see caroline if you get the chance.  she's a wonderful performer and is
happy to chat with you after the show.

cheers!
kathleen   kef1330@aol.com

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 14:28:53 -0400
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subject:      dates for 2 shows

does anyone know the dates for the following:

ig @ the birchmere "just passin' thru" on whfs - i think this was taped in
march

and i have a tape of three songs performed at uconn:
secure yourself, galileo & ghost .... no date or anything - had to be '91 or
early '92 .....

please e-mail me privately .....

chris

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 15:40:56 -0400
reply-to:     marivel danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
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from:         marivel danielson <marivel@m.imap.itd.umich.edu>
subject:      new date!!!!!

hi all!

happy sunday to everyone.  well mine just got substantially happier a few
minutes ago.  ticketmaster is listing a ig show in ann arbor, mi on november
14th.  the charge by phone (in case you're one of the 2 or 3 people in the world
who like to be put on hold for hours) is (810)645-6666.  i called a local music
store, and tickets go on sale next saturday oct. 11 at 10am.  and since it's at
hill auditorium which is pretty huge, i'm guessing that there's no way it will
be anything but arranged seating.

and in light of all the beating a & e and company took over the last few weeks
with that rcam thread, i'd just like to say that they kept their word on this
one.  at the last ann arbor concert in march they said they'd be back, and i
figured that that just meant they'd be in detroit for all that summer stuff they
did, but they're coming right back to little old aa, i for one can't stop saying
"oh my god!".

okay, and if you've gotten this far, i'll do my best to reward you (sort of).
if i can bribe someone into coming with me to buy tickets, i can probably pick
some pretty good seats up for someone coming in from out of town who might
othewise have to get screwed over by tm (i just experienced that saturday, and
wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy).  so if you don't need a lot of tickets
(cause the fewer you need, the closer you always end up) let me know and i'll
see what i can do.

okay, that's it.  enjoy the rest of the weekend...

marivel

   sofi:  i have to talk to amy.
   kris:  yeah...maybe you should wait 'til that girl gets off her face.

   ******

   kris:  i like your hair...it makes me want to play tennis.

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 14:49:00 -0600
reply-to:     justin shumaker <shuey@arn.net>
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subject:      fundamental ig question - ctf
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hello, all.  today, i was thinking about ctf.  it's such a
taken-for-granted song...you know, it's always been there, they always play
it, they always will.

but i haven't seen any discussion as to its meaning or its personal
significance to anyone.  in particular, i have one question: the line in
the chorus, "the less i seek my source for some definitive, the closer i am
to fine."

what does this mean?  my best bet is that emily is saying there are
questions and problems in life that we'll never know the answer to, so we
shouldn't kill ourselves by looking too deep.  but that seems kind of like
someone's giving up.  also,  by "my source", is emily speaking of god?
family?  "inner self"?  all of these?

thoughts?  i'd appreciate it.

justin

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 17:03:54 -0400
reply-to:     alisa greenberg <agreenb1@swarthmore.edu>
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i totally agree with the taken-for-grantedness of ctf./  personally, it is
my favorite song (be it the commercial one of ig) because it is chalk full
of meaning.  it was the first song of theirs that i really learned, the one
that made me want to start playing guitar, and the one that brought me
together with some of my best friends.  though the one that all fans sight
as the quintisential (sp?) ig song, it is far more than one that they
always play because it has market quality.  it is the one that binds all
fans together, huge and beginner.

my .02
alisa

"...for everything i've learned
there are two i don't understand."
           emily saliers

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 19:05:53 -0400
reply-to:     kristina d vaskys <cheesehed@juno.com>
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from:         kristina d vaskys <cheesehed@juno.com>
subject:      nigc--jen and jasmine

sorry for the nigc--my computer's been eating emails again!!! grrrrrr!!
jen and jasmine, could you please send me your emails again--i lost your
addresses.

thanks!

kristina :o)

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 19:10:46 -0400
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from:         kathleen flaherty <kef1330@aol.com>
subject:      attn: atlanta listees (nigc)

hey all,

i am traveling south at the beginning of november and will be stopping off in
atlanta for a day or two sometime between the 4th and the 8th.  i'd love to
get the chance to meet other listees if anyone is available.  perhaps an
evening at eddie's or one of the other local clubs?  and, just to be really
wacko, can i talk anyone into going to an amusement park?  i presume atlanta
must have a six flags or something.  i'm a roller coaster nut who hasn't had
the chance to ride one in several years.  going thru withdrawal.  anybody
game?

cheers!
kathleen   kef1330@aol.com

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 18:43:01 -0500
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am i the only one who thinks this song could benifit from a brief
"retirement" from concert. they always end with it, always will. it's a
great song but by this time they sing it with no feeling, just by rote.
it's usually kind of anticlimactic for me. not a permanent retirement but a
year or two would be a good thing.
just a thought


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> from: justin shumaker <shuey@arn.net>
> to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject: fundamental ig question - ctf
> date: sunday, october 05, 1997 3:49 pm
>
> hello, all.  today, i was thinking about ctf.  it's such a
> taken-for-granted song...you know, it's always been there, they always
play
> it, they always will.
>
> but i haven't seen any discussion as to its meaning or its personal
> significance to anyone.  in particular, i have one question: the line in
> the chorus, "the less i seek my source for some definitive, the closer i
am
> to fine."
>
> what does this mean?  my best bet is that emily is saying there are
> questions and problems in life that we'll never know the answer to, so we
> shouldn't kill ourselves by looking too deep.  but that seems kind of
like
> someone's giving up.  also,  by "my source", is emily speaking of god?
> family?  "inner self"?  all of these?
>
> thoughts?  i'd appreciate it.
>
> justin
>
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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 20:04:35 -0400
reply-to:     mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>
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subject:      kristen hall's *correct* b-day - nigc
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hey y'all-

in which old melsouth (after intensive research) corrects info which she
had previously and erroneously posted to the list:

i've now had 2 corroborations, and feel moderately confident enough to
post that... (insert drum-roll here)...

          kristen hall was born on october 26, 1962  

so, kristen will be 35! <ouch> and is older than... emily!... heck,
she's even older than me, and *i'm* older than... umm... i feel... <g>

so... if you're in the atlanta area on oct 18... stop by eddie's attic
at 7 pm or 9:30 pm and wish her a "happy early birthday!"

the above information is for comparison use only... your mileage may
vary... (but i could be wrong...)

peace... (and enjoy the start of yet another whole work/school week!)
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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 20:26:52 -0400
reply-to:     lisalisaa@aol.com
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from:         lisa arthur <lisalisaa@aol.com>
subject:      ctf

>>jason wrote:

subject: re: fundamental ig question - ctf

am i the only one who thinks this song could benifit from a brief
"retirement" from concert.<<<<

oh my god, perish the thought.

i dont think they play it without feeling either. i just saw them do it at
west palm, and aside from r&j, it really was -- and always is -- the
highlight of any show for me. there's always a great feeling of community and
to me the whole philosophy underlying the song is what their music has always
been about.

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 20:56:44 -0400
reply-to:     alisa greenberg <agreenb1@swarthmore.edu>
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ahhhh!!!!!  no more ctf at concerts!!!!  i would die if i was at a concert
and they didn;t play it!

in a state of disbelief...alisa

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subject:      (nigc) nanci griffith- goes west
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more nigc...

re: nanci griffith & the blue moon orchestra [last tour together]

for those who are interested...

newly announced western concert dates:

nov 08  wiltern theatre         los angeles, ca
nov 09  luther burbank          santa rosa, ca
nov 10  warfield                san francisco, ca
nov 12  opera house             seattle, wa

there is also a newly scheduled show in phoenix, az - altho i'm not sure
of the date (undoubtedly before nov 8)...

peace...
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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 21:58:46 -0500
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hey y'all!  i'm looking for 2 tickets to the ig show in birmingham on
october 17th.  i already have one ticket in the center of the first row of
the balcony, but someone else would like to come with me.  even if you
only have one, let me know, and maybe we can work something out.  thanks!
sue

harne001@bama.ua.edu

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 23:06:43 -0400
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subject:      looking for betsy

hi indigo-devotees

please forgive the space-betsy, please write me again, i lost your new e-mail
address

tina in tucson

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 00:11:05 -0400
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        yikes-
        i was in the grocery store buying carrots and i realized that
the song piping through the speakers was an all-synth-and-piano version
of galileo...i was disturbed...the lady in front of the broccoli
couldn't figure out what i was babbling about...

        sarah
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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 00:54:25 -0500
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ctf is how i learned what the girls are "about".  i went from not paying any
attention to their music  to "wow".  my true love was ready to leave after
14 years--i was devastated.  he would listen to the girls and that song over
and over.  at first i thought he was trying to drive me crazy.  then i
realized that these songs had a lot of meaning to him, and they were key in
my being able to understand him.  he had been trying to share their music
with me for quite some time, and i always was too "busy" or uninterested.
fortunately, we were able to reconnect to one another and have been lucky
enough to rediscover what we so love about each other, including the music
of a & e.  his anniversary present this year was a tape of as many versions
of ctf as i could get my hands on!   another favorite, "love's recovery"
seems to fit us so well!  now we're just wishing for a minnesota stop soon!

always a fan!   l.

p.s.  happy birthday, r!  i love you.
...but nobody gets a lifetime rehersal     (e. sailers, "love's recovery")

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 02:57:30 -0400
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subject:      ctf

i don't think they would ever give up playing ctf.  i think that it is a
tradition of theirs to play it last as an encore performance.  or so i would
assume, since i have only been to one concert.

dawn

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hey once again kind friends,
   it seems kathleen beat me to posting about the caoline aiken show in
rochester on sat. night.   i had actually written a whole long thing
about it when igot home but for some reason never actually sent it.  so
here it is a day later.

  so i went with a friend who was kind enough to agree to provide the
transportation and a friend of his who is also i guess a friendly
acquainence of mine.  but then my friend's car wouldn't start so we wound
up taking the other guy's car and this guy i didn't even expect to have a
good time cause i didn't really think it would be his thing musically.
so now i feel like they're both doing me this huge favor, driving two hrs
to see some random folk singer that they've never heard of.

   and then we get there and it's this church auditorium with metal
folding chairs and we're 20 minutes late but that's ok cause there's an
opening act (whose name i didn't get - a young formerly local guy who
sang some happy little ditties (my
guess is about 12-15 people in the audience were relatives of his.)  and
i'm really concerned that my friends aren't having/going to have a good
time and i feel bad cause there were a lot of other things they could
have done tonight that they passed up to do this and i couldn't have gone
without them since i don't have a car and my other friends with cars had
already bailed so these two guys are totally doing me a favor.
   but then, caroline comes out and i forget all that.  for two songs
we're way in the back (which is not to say far) and then i decide, the
hell with that.  if we bothered to do this, i'm going for total immersion.
   so we move up to the front between songs.  caroline does a couple more
and then stops to consider what to play next.  "hmmm.. what do you feel
like" she asks.  i'm sure it was rhetorical but i say out loud
anyway, "another on the rise."  "bless you," says caroline (or bless your
soul or your heart, i'm not sure which.) caroline then asks if i have the
album.  i say 'i've got live at the attic.' (i must admit i don't know if
there's a studio album with it on it.) she says, "with amy & emily."  then
she explains to everyone that that's a song she recorded with es of ig and
starts telling us how she's known them since they were 17 & 18 when she had
a gig near emory university back in the early 80's and they played on
live at the attic and they're also on the new album.  then about how she's
gonna be opeing for them next month, etc., etc.

anyway, then she tells me she'll play another on the rise when she
switches back over to her 6-string if she can remember it.  a couple of
songs later she does and she plays it. throughout the choruses i'm singing
emily's harmony quietly to myself (an octave lower) and caroline's just
smiling at me as she sings.  oh, man it was beautiful.

let's see, setlist (certainly not in order.)
that song with the word angels in the title with a shorter version of the
preface she gave to it when i saw her on long island in aug. ("this woman
came up to me one time and said, 'i know what that song is about. it's
about firemen!' so i said, 'o.k.'" ) she got a laugh.  i don't know
if it translates well to email.

a stirring "left wet."  ooh- if you haven't heard this (and seen it)
live, i can't really describe it.

a pretty rockin "good intentions" and also love ain't going nowhere, an
unexpected "hotel at hwy1" (she opened with this i think) (i didn't expect
it cause she does it on piano on the album - i gotta say, i think it should
stay on piano), and ground zero all off of her 'new' album butler field.
i love watching her play ground zero.  i get so transfixed just staring at
her hands.

what else?  "someday" (which sort of sounds to me like it could be a
melissa ferrick song) now that is some serious stumming which is
awesome cause she also does some crazy fingerpicking.  she's so diverse,
folk, rolk, blues, a capella, instrumental.  one a capella thing she said
she learned in the back of a vw bus (not virginia woolf)  it was abou
this woman who 'cooked with her heart and soul' who cooked for the allman
bros on tour.  collard greens and black eyed peas....i don't know but it
was cool.

her encore (of sorts) was this tune she did on harmonica with a capella
vocals (had she both sung and played harmonica at the same time, now that
folks, would have ben something.) somewhere in there was a song i don'
know the name of about mixed up kids who get put in rehab and mental wards
of hospitals as their parents way of dealing with them.  (this she
introduced saying she's glad that wasn't the thing to do when she was
growing up cause she'd certainly have been one of those kids.) oh and also
a blues tune with a nod to leo kottke.  what else?  oh yeah, "my there for
me guitar"  i love that song!!!  gotta get whatever album that's on.

i think that's the whole show or at least damn close.  i, for one,
enjoyed it thoroughly.  as for my friends - i think they both had a good
time.  maybe not as good a time as i did.  but they enjoyed the show and
i think there was something fun about how completely random a
sort of thing to do it was.

anyay, definitely go see caroline aiken if you get the chance.
fortunately, since she's opening for ig for a while, i'm sure lots of you
will.  you're in for a treat.

    -colleen

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 02:33:13 -0700
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on tour, which songs have ig encouraged audience to sing along?
(galileo, ctf, and ???)  how about any from from sots?

thanks, -rosemary

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 03:28:22 -0700
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hi,

here are song times on ig cds.  ignore or cherish.

first is minutes:seconds:00 and then minutes (decimal).  if
anyone wants a tab delimited or an excel version, email me
privately and i will enclose a file with my reply.

any ideas for nice song sequences for recording to tape?

cheers, -rosemary

rop,1,three hits,3:11:00,3.18
rop,2,galileo,4:14:00,4.23
rop,3,ghost,5:15:00,5.25
rop,4,joking,3:33:00,3.55
rop,5,jonas & ezkial,4:09:00,4.15
rop,6,love will come to you,4:38:00,4.63
rop,7,romeo & juliet,4:48:00,4.80
rop,8,virginia woolf,5:27:00,5.45
rop,9,chickenman,5:45:00,5.75
rop,10,airplane,3:22:00,3.37
rop,11,nashville,3:58:00,3.97
rop,12,let it be me,3:55:00,3.92
rop,13,cedar tree,3:47:00,3.78
rop-total,,,,56.03

so,1,fugitive,4:37:00,4.62
so,2,least complicated,4:12:00,4.20
so,3,language or the kiss,5:35:00,5.58
so,4,reunion,3:27:00,3.45
so,5,power of two,5:23:00,5.38
so,6,touch me fall,6:11:00,6.18
so,7,the wood song,4:14:00,4.23
so,8,mystery,4:05:00,4.08
so,9,dead man's hill,4:43:00,4.72
so,10,fare the well,4:02:00,4.03
so,11,this train revised,4:38:00,4.63
so-total,,,,51.12

ig,1,closer to fine,4:02:00,4.03
ig,2,secure yourself,3:37:00,3.62
ig,3,kid fears,4:34:00,4.57
ig,4,prince of darkness,5:23:00,5.38
ig,5,blood and fire,4:39:00,4.65
ig,6,tried to be true,3:00:00,3.00
ig,7,love's recovery,4:24:00,4.40
ig,8,land of canaan,3:58:00,3.97
ig,9,center stage,4:51:00,4.85
ig,10,history of us,5:21:00,5.35
ig-total,,,,43.82

nis,1,hammer and a nail,3:50:00,3.83
nis,2,welcome me,4:37:00,4.62
nis,3,world falls,3:45:00,3.75
nis,4,southland in the springtime,4:20:00,4.33
nis,5,1-2-3,4:16:00,4.27
nis,6,keeper of my heart,4:22:00,4.37
nis,7,watershed,5:45:00,5.75
nis,8,hand me downs,3:41:00,3.68
nis,9,you and me of the ...,4:11:00,4.18
nis,10,pushing the needle too far,4:13:00,4.22
nis,11,the girl with the weight of ...,4:20:00,4.33
nis-total,,,,47.33

sots,1,shame on you,4:01:00,4.02
sots,2,get out the map,3:23:00,3.38
sots,3,shed your skin,4:09:00,4.15
sots,4,it's alright,3:03:00,3.05
sots,5,caramina,5:46:00,5.77
sots,6,don't give that girls a gun,4:37:00,4.62
sots,7,leeds,3:32:00,3.53
sots,8,scooter boys,2:54:00,2.90
sots,9,everything in its own time,5:15:00,5.25
sots,10,cut it out,3:52:00,3.87
sots,11,burn all the letters,4:10:00,4.17
sots,12,hey kind friend,5:47:00,5.78
sots-total,,,,50.48

botby,1,1 2 3 (live),4:30:00,4.50
botby,2,tried to be true,2:55:00,2.92
botby,3,you and me of the ...,4:22:00,4.37
botby,4,prince of darkness,6:01:00,6.02
botby,5,kid fears,4:58:00,4.97
botby,6,left me a fool,5:30:00,5.50
botby,7,all along the watchtower,6:26:00,6.43
botby,8,1 2 3 (studio),4:15:00,4.25
botby-total,,,,38.95

sf,1,strange fire,5:29:00,5.48
sf,2,crazy game,2:53:00,2.88
sf,3,left me a fool,4:53:00,4.88
sf,4,i don't wanna know,3:16:00,3.27
sf,5,hey jesus,4:08:00,4.13
sf,6,get together,3:32:00,3.53
sf,7,walk away,5:29:00,5.48
sf,8,make it easier,4:00:00,4.00
sf,9,you left it up to me,4:57:00,4.95
sf,10,land of canaan,4:09:00,4.15
sf-total,,,,42.77

s_kit,1,galileo,4:13:00,4.22
s_kit,2,welcome me,4:38:00,4.63
s_kit,3,least complicated,4:12:00,4.20
s_kit,4,three hits,3:10:00,3.17
s_kit,5,ghost,5:16:00,5.27
s_kit,6,kid fears,4:33:00,4.55
s_kit,7,closer to fine,4:41:00,4.68
s_kit-total,,,,30.72

1200c-1,1,joking,4:27:00,4.45
1200c-1,2,least complicated,5:16:00,5.27
1200c-1,3,this train,4:22:00,4.37
1200c-1,4,river,3:53:00,3.88
1200c-1,5,strange fire,5:13:00,5.22
1200c-1,6,power of two,5:17:00,5.28
1200c-1,7,pushing the needle ...,4:21:00,4.35
1200c-1,8,virginia woolf,6:05:00,6.08
1200c-1,9,jonas and ezekial,3:54:00,3.90
1200c-1,10,tangled up in blue,8:06:00,8.10
1200c-1,11,world falls,3:53:00,3.88
1200c-1,12,bury my heart ... (live),5:08:00,5.13
1200c-1,13,ghost,6:04:00,6.07
1200c-1,14,dead man's hill,5:35:00,5.58
1200c-1-total,,,,71.57

1200c-2,1,i don't wanna know,3:46:00,3.77
1200c-2,2,galileo,5:30:00,5.50
1200c-2,3,down by the river,9:44:00,9.73
1200c-2,4,love's recovery,5:03:00,5.05
1200c-2,5,land of canaan,4:26:00,4.43
1200c-2,6,mystery,4:48:00,4.80
1200c-2,7,this train revised,6:40:00,6.67
1200c-2,8,back together again,2:04:00,2.07
1200c-2,9,language or the kiss,5:44:00,5.73
1200c-2,10,chickenman,7:28:00,7.47
1200c-2,11,midnight train to georgia,5:18:00,5.30
1200c-2,12,closer to fine,4:49:00,4.82
1200c-2,13,bury my heart ... (studio),4:59:00,4.98
1200c-2-total,,,,70.32

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 09:56:15 -0400
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subject:      re: audience sings

in a message dated 97-10-06 05:34:36 edt, rosemary asks:

<< on tour, which songs have ig encouraged audience to sing along?
(galileo, ctf, and ???)  how about any from from sots?
  >>
certainly they encourage singing on least complicated and prince of darkness
(at least they did in the old days!).

pam

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 15:30:02 +0000
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subject:      re : auditions...... (nigc) and some igc!!!! (yay!)

just thought i'd take the time to say thank you to all the people
who've congratulated me on getting through the auditions - once
again thank you.....

and if you can get hold of it, in the current issue of a british
music magazine called "vox", there's a large article on the lilith
fair, with two photos of the ig - one small (probably publicity),
and one from a lilith concert - they're on stage with meredith
brooks, jewel, micheal lorant, and possibly jerry and sara.....

hope somebody can confirm that,

john.

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ok, over my strong opinion..."

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 08:22:42 pdt
reply-to:     nicola nelson <nicnelson@hotmail.com>
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hey guys, we are quite the interesting and articulate group, aren't we?
it turned out to be a lot of fun reading all your messages and tallying
up the votes on the list shirt ideas.  thanks for all the
posts - particularly the humorous ones!
it seems we are virtually unanimous that the back of the shirt should
say "thanks, y'all."
but as for the front...my goodness what a horse race this one was.
(which just goes to show the horse was indeed alive and well!)
first rich benson's "stars & patch-of-indigo quote" were on top...then
the stick girls were up there...then the stars...the girls...the
stars...they were rolling over and over and over until...well, you get
the picture. in the end the tally was as follows:

rich benson's stars-and-patch-of-indigo-quote             22
stick girls (or "stick chicks" as someone called them!)   21
list addy on front/thanks y'all on back                   11
igc on front/thanks y'all on back                          4
peace/love symbols                                         2

a handful of people sent in their own original ideas for designs but of
course they didn't make the general vote.
some interesting comments were made which should be considered:

we should put 1997 somewhere on the shirt
the stick girls should be playing guitars
the list addy should be in small type (many made this comment)
the "thanks y'all" should be in "artistic type"
the stick girls should hold the addy on a banner (as on p-p-v)
the shirts should be 100% cotton (four people strongly urged this)
and last but not least:
sherlyn is giving a qualified thumbs-up to use of the addy - i presume
this means no copyright infringements, or design elements which might
reflect badly on the list.   a direct check with her re:the final design
is undoubtedly in order.

so...i guess it comes down to who wants to actually put this thing
together - both design-wise and production-wise.  the two top finishers
in the design race were so close that i would imagine
either shirt would be well-received by listees.  perhaps the deciding
factor will be the individual who steps forward to do the designing -
that is, whichever design s/he favors will be the one that goes to
press.
so...any good designers out there?  lisa, still interested? rich?
other designers? and as for production facilities, chris b. appears to
have the inside track - anybody else have a great source for screening
and shirts?
maybe those interested in donating time to this effort should email
a central location.  i'll volunteer to act as clearinghouse for the
time being, to save bandwidth and all that. (i can forward copies of
messages from interested parties to all the other interested parties - a
sub-list of sorts) personally, i don't have any particular skills to
offer this endeavor other than a willingness to give of my time, and a
reasonable amount of organizational ability.
so anyway...thanks y'all...

peace-nic

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october 8
mweiss@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (michelle rena weiss)
happy 20th, michelle!

october 9
100064.3337@compuserve.com (gail anthony)
happy birthday, gail!

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 10:54:44 -0400
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i just have one question about ctf: what the hell is "the lookout"?!  everyone
loves to chime in on that one, and i can't help but wonder what it is that we
are pledging our allegiance to!

and, yeah, i did search the faq first. :-)

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 10:57:43 -0400
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>es: we started back in march. we'll tour up through the holiday season
>and then we're going to australia at the beginning of next year. and then
>we have some special plans.

hmmmm.....!  anyone have any idea what emily is alluding to there?

>and then we'll probably quit sometime in the
>summer and prepare for the next album.

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 11:35:46 mdt
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subject:      re: ctf

didn't pay much attention to the ctf thread until a radio station (the peak) here
in denver played it this morning.  i haven't heard them play any ig, much less
something old, so it was quite a surprise.  listening to it, i realized it's
very close to what i'm going through right now.  i feel like i've spent my
whole life searching for what makes me happy -- i go back and forth between
wanting to buy a big house, settle down, find someone to be with long term,
and selling everything i own and traveling the world.  i can't tell which is
a phase and which might be what i want, but i'm never happy where i am.  i
finally came to the conclusion that perhaps it's the search, the journey,
the trying of many different things, that makes me happiest.  i'm much
closer to fine having figured that out.

elizabeth in denver (boulder soon!)

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>>es: we started back in march. we'll tour up through the holiday season
>>and then we're going to australia at the beginning of next year. and then
>>we have some special plans.

>hmmmm.....!  anyone have any idea what emily is alluding to there?

yup.  they're both going to have a tour in my living room for a month.
you're all invited.


oh wait.. that was my dream.

(shoot- i said the soft part loud and the loud part soft)

nevermind :)

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hey everyone,

it's monday, and here are the long-awaited results of the guess the las
vegas set-list competition.

there were 35 uninspired, predictable entries, and ... there were no
absolute 9 for 9 winners.

there were however four list members who got 8 out of 9 songs correct.
i've tried to think of a valid tie-breaker, but haven't come up with
anything so .... you all win.

congratulations to:     sam, jmonfort@vamet.k12.wa.us
                        otts , fellottsio@aol.com
                        wendell, wlee@indy1.calarts.edu
                        sue, skwan@midway.uchicago.edu

the breakdown was       9 correct       0 players       0 % of respondees
                        8               4               11.4%
                        7               10              28.6%
                        6               13              37%
                        5               7               20%
                        4               1               2.8%
                        3,2,1           0

as they say in the disclaimers, numbers may not total 100% due to rounding
errors.

some interesting (or not so interesting) facts:

the most obvious song was shame on you - everyone guessed it.

one brave soul actually didn't list closer to fine.

many people observed that tried to be true and land of canaan aren't
exactly underplayed either.

3 people can't count to 9 and 3 people thought bmhawk was so clearly
obvious and predictable that they had to list it even though i told ya not
to.  i'm guessing some of you are not unfamiliar with the words "please
read the directions more carefully".

and here, in all its not-really-all-that-surprising glory, is the las
vegas hte setlist:

galileo - yes, they opened with galileo.  if that doesn't say "we think no
one here knows our songs", i don't know what does...  jackson browne did
his part from the original recorded version.

shame on you

get out the nap.  oops, i mean, map.

scooter boys - many people thought shed your skin was more predictable.
yes but... it lacks that certain "people oppressing people"  ambience...
john trudell did a part in the middle of it.

everything in its own time - you can hear this on the hte web page:
www.honorearth.com

chickenman - with dave ellison on harmonic -there's something you don't
see every show.  well, actually...

least complicated - for a brief, shining moment we were hoping it was
tangled up in blue.

blood quantum - according to you all, this was actually the least
predictable song.  i don't know, honor the earth concert, song from the
honor cd which was being sold at the t-shirt booth -- it wasn't a h u g e
surprise...  with keith secola on flute.

closer to fine - with bonnie raitt.  she actually did a credible job with
the dreaded "stopped by the bar" verse.  why is that so hard to get right?

and,  that's all folks.

ig also played or sang on:  angel from montgomery, bmhawk and teach your
children, the last 3 songs of bonnie raitt's set.

thanks to everyone for playing - it was fun!

alison

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could some kind soul with a copy of the npr transcript please email it to
me????  i'd be forever grateful!!!!  thanks in advance...
sue

harne001@bama.ua.edu

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subject:      nigc: which ani?

i've heard bits of ani and really liked them so i think i'm gonna take the
plunge and get a cd.  any recommendations?  -anne

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forgive me if this has already gone through.  went away for a week and
stopped list mail.

does anyone have any ticket info for the uv burlington show.  it is much
appreciated!  thanks.

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sorry folks!

tami huested, you didn't include postage for the galliard sc boot.  please
send it along asap.if you don't still have my address, mail me back and
i'll send it.

rob

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 16:39:27 -0400
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from http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/1769/history.html:
"the rainbow flag was created by gilbert baker in san francisco in 1978.
originally, there were 8 colors, all of which were assigned a meaning by
baker.
...indigo to stand for harmony."

and they say amy found the word in a dictionary!  coincidence?  i think not!


visit my web page: http://miavx1.muohio.edu/~skippeec,
but don't make fun of it
~~~
"you just continue.  you just basically keep getting up and
making your oatmeal, playing with your dog, doing your work,
your life just goes on.  and you learn to accept what is
unjust."
-alice walker

"i don't have a type.  it took me this long to narrow it
down to a gender."
-ellen

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from where i can't return
where every step i took in faith
betrayed me
and led me from my home"
-sarah mclachlan

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reply-to:     elizabeth skipper <skippeec@muohio.edu>
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oh no!  i kept reading and came across this:
"the parade committee decided to use baker's flag, but they only wanted a 6
color version so that 3 colors could be on each side of the street. as a
result, the indigo stripe was also removed which created the 6 stripe flag
that we know as the rainbow flag today."
how upsetting!  indigo will always belong in my version of the rainbow flag.

elizabeth

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making your oatmeal, playing with your dog, doing your work,
your life just goes on.  and you learn to accept what is
unjust."
-alice walker

"i don't have a type.  it took me this long to narrow it
down to a gender."
-ellen

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from where i can't return
where every step i took in faith
betrayed me
and led me from my home"
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sorry to those who are sick-and-tired about the list shirt discussion,
but i just found two more votes for the stick-chicks under the kitchen
table.  ok, i lied.  two people just sent me their votes today, and
i didn't want to discard them just cuz they weren't emailed over the
weekend.  (hey, i rarely go on-line during the weekend myself.  some of
us have busy lives during our off hours)  so for those to whom it
matters, the stick chicks are back on top. (hmmm)
peace-nic

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subject:      new amy song...

okay all of you people lucky enough to be on your way to and ig concert in the
next few weeks...i have a favor to ask.  could somebody try and figure out what
the name of that new song is that amy's been playing at some of the more recent
shows?  i've seen posted that it's about a mining town and someone compared it
to "margaritaville".  well be that as it may, i'd still like to hear it for
myself but in order to be able to request it i sort of need to know what it's
called.  does anyone know already?  if not, could those of you at the next few
concerts notice if she plays it, and if she does, could you scream out like an
insane person: "what's the title of that wonderful song amy?!?"

anyone with guts and lungs willing to help me out?  thanks in advance...

marivel

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   kris:  yeah...maybe you should wait 'til that girl gets off her face.

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 18:23:00 -0400
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subject:      hi group!

hi group!  i've been offline all weekend and actually got some r&r down the
beach a ways.  anyway, i was just going through my mail and i got 14 tons of
junk mail after i turned my list off (i think the list is good for scaring
away junk mailers :)  )  and while i was deleting that i might have deleted
some stuff that might have been important!!!! so i guess what i'm saying is
if you emailed me anytime after thursday and i haven't responded, send it
again!!!!!!!!!! :)

wow, it's good to be back!

peace, harmony and indigo,

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i am a moron.  i didn't think that i would be able to make it to the
valdosta show, but now it turns out i can.  i ignored all of the
messages on the list about valdosta info because i couldn't go.  so
could someone please send me a little information.  are there still
tickets available?  if so, how do i get them?  thanks so much in advance
to all the kind listees out there.  and let's pray that they play r&j.
thanks, hersh     "hershner@hotmail.com"

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subject:      concert at the dugout in decatur, ga

hey y'all,

does anybody out there have a copy (does one even exist?) of a concert at
the
dugout in decatur from sometime in the 80's?  please let me know.

thanks,

pam


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help!!!

does anybody out there have a copy (does one even exist?) of a concert at the
dugout in decatur from sometime in the 80's?  please let me know.

thanks,

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 19:27:50 -0400
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subject:      nigc: seattle folklore society

i got a flyer from the seattle folklore society on their upcoming concerts
and i was wondering if anyone had heard of any of the following:

cosy sheridan
cliff eberhardt
darryl purpose
delly joe phelps
joules graves
richard gilewitz
kevin connolly
susan mckeown
martin sexton
vance gilbert
anne weiss
lucy kaplansky
cludia schmidt
cheryl wheeler

are any especially worth seeing?  thanks. sorry for the nigc!  -anne

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got the new ladyslipper catalog today. they have the 1200c & sots
songbooks in the catalog, but mention both are slated for early '98
shipment.

they do have the rop songbook available now, but none of the other ig
releases are listed.

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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subject:      re: nigc: which ani?

thanks so much for the recommendations on which ani cd to get.  i'm looking
forward to trying her out!  -anne

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hey y'all,
     i was listening to locals only on 99x yesterday and i heard mention
of a second benefit for mm at smith's olde bar a little later this month.
did anyone else hear it?  i missed the exact date but would love to go!


thanks,
allison

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 19:55:26 -0400
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well, now sorry about the nigc, but my g/f and i were discussing something i
saw on the list a while back. did ani really sing the opening song "kissin
and huggin" or whatever it was called on the "my best friends wedding" movie
soundtrack???? help us settle this debate. thanks.

michelle

in a message dated 97-10-06 19:43:53 edt, chiqhiker@aol.com writes:

>
>  thanks so much for the recommendations on which ani cd to get.  i'm
looking
>  forward to trying her out!  -anne
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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 20:11:44 -0400
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in a message dated 97-10-06 19:56:58 edt, you write:

<< i've heard bits of ani and really liked them so i think i'm gonna take the
plunge and get a cd.  any recommendations? >>

hello all,
     my name is andy and i just joined the list.  been a big indigo girls
follower since 9th grade and i am now a college junior who loves amy and
emily all the more (maybe amy a little more then em).  anyway, as far as ani:
get her first self-titled album.  i think it's her best work.  her recent
stuff has this nasty feeling to it that, while refreshing during times of
angst and frustration, may not be healthy.  her first album really stands out
lyrically as well.  maybe i'm just nostalgic, but it really think it's the
best one.  also, has anyone heard kristen hersh of throwing muses?  she has a
solo album that rocks my world.  i hope to be on this list for quite some
time.  i've been reading all of your posts and i love you all already.
between this e-mail list and the david lynch e-mail list, i think it will
all balance out to conform better to the duality of the universe...  or
something

with sincere love and affection,
andy

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in a message dated 97-10-06 19:30:31 edt, anne writes:

<< cosy sheridan
cliff eberhardt
darryl purpose
delly joe phelps
joules graves
richard gilewitz
kevin connolly
susan mckeown
martin sexton
vance gilbert
anne weiss
lucy kaplansky
cludia schmidt
cheryl wheeler
  >>
i can vouch for cliff eberhardt (who has also covered romeo & juliet,
although i must say that i prefer amy's version!), susan mckeown, and cheryl
wheeler.  do not miss cheryl wheeler if you can help it.  she is hysterically
funny and her songs will either have you in tears laughing or because they
touch your heart when you weren't expecting it.  cliff is also wonderful in
concert.  his songs "my father shoes" and "the long road" are two of my all
time faves.  and i just discovered susan mckeown kind of by accident.  heavy
celtic influence, but really interesting.  most of the names on that list are
familiar to me, but these are the three i know best.  you are lucky to have
access to a series like that!

jealous in dallas :-)

pam

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sorry about bandwidth!

is janet who used to live in dallas still out there?  i can't make your
e-mail work and i have some info for you.

thanks,

pam (who still lives in dallas where it is still hot!)

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i know, i shoulda done the nigc in my subject line, but this is very
important...

tuesday, october 7th is joni cyr's birthday!!!!!!!!!  please help me clutter
up the old geezer's emailbox with good wishes for a happy day!

send all spam, er, uh, i mean send all birthday greetings to: jcyr@mit.edu

thanks y'all (there... some igc!)
dee

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oh please, those of you who are kind souls and those of you who aren't....

could someone get me a ticket (or two) to the ig show tomorrow at suny
binghamton????

please?  i'll express the $$$ to you tomorrow, give you boots and pics,
whatever......

i'm at the end of my rope....  :)

thanks and peace-
karrie

ps.  ma, i know...i've already seen them....  :p  i need to see them
again!

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hey everybody!

i was just wondering if anyone knew the release date of the cd of the woody
guthrie tribute show that's going to be released on righteous babe.  i
heard ani talk about it on mrl and i know it's going to be great cause i
was there.  i know i taped the bootleg for quite a few of you.  ani does a
cool version of guthrie's "do re mi" and the girls do an awesome version of
"gypsy davy"  they also collaborated on not a pretty girl but i'm not sure
if they're going to put on any originals or just guthrie songs.  anyone know??

rob

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okay, they (you know, them) say all the lesbian references in xena are all
in our heads, but i don't believe it.  case in point:  did y'all see
tonight's episode (the one where the day keeps repeating itself)?  at one
point, jaxir (i know i mangled that spelling) says to xena, "is that a
hickey?"  gabrielle gets a very embarrassed look on her face!  now i know
it's not all in my head!  anyway, sorry for the nigc, i just had to get that
off my chest.  back to your regularly scheduled watching of xena.  enjoy!

elizabeth

visit my web page: http://miavx1.muohio.edu/~skippeec,
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making your oatmeal, playing with your dog, doing your work,
your life just goes on.  and you learn to accept what is
unjust."
-alice walker

"i don't have a type.  it took me this long to narrow it
down to a gender."
-ellen

"i've crossed the last line
from where i can't return
where every step i took in faith
betrayed me
and led me from my home"
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hi folks-

michelle wrote:
> did ani really sing the opening song "kissin
> and huggin" or whatever it was called on the "my best friends wedding"
> movie soundtrack???? help us settle this debate. thanks.

"kissin and huggin" is by the very cool & under-appreciated, imho, -
joan armatrading. it's on her album 'show some emotion' - a classic,
early album (& still my fav). if you've never heard it - you should
check it out. because it's an oldie - the album is often in those
half-off cd bins.
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hi-
more - official no indigo girl content - from mel

additional western tour dates -

nanci griffith & the blue moon orchestra [last tour together]

nov 03  austin city limits
         (w nitty gritty dirt band)     austin, tx
nov 05  union hall                      phoenix, az
nov 08  wiltern theatre                 los angeles,ca
nov 09  luther burbank center           santa rosa, ca
nov 10  warfield theatre                san francisco, ca
nov 12  5th avenue theatre              seattle, wa
nov 13  schnitzer hall                  portland, or
nov 15  mother lode                     butte, mt
nov 16  tba
nov 17  tba
nov 21  westport playhouse              st. louis, mo
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at 10:24 pm 10/6/97 -0400, you wrote:
>hi folks-
>
>michelle wrote:
>> did ani really sing the opening song "kissin
>> and huggin" or whatever it was called on the "my best friends wedding"
>> movie soundtrack???? help us settle this debate. thanks.
>

that song is actually called "wishin and hopin" and ani does sing it on the
"best friend's wedding" soundtrack.  she talked about how sort of ironic it
is on mrl.  not typical ani but funny!

rob

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i think it's great that this song is being looked at. i would be really
interested to hear more interpretations of it because although we all know
generally what it's about, there are some quite obscure little phrases and
images in there. my husband and i one saturday morning, while snoozing,
launched into a word by word interpretation of it. strange thing to be
doing in bed on a saturday morning i know but i encourage any and all
interest in the girls that he has!

my take on 'the less i seek my source for some definitive the closer i am
to fine" is this: (and for a long time i wasn't sure): if you look at in
the context of the whole song, you see it's about going to places where
she's been or come from, university and so on and none of them have
provided answers about the meaning of her life. some but not full answers.
her source is where she's come from. i don't think it's god. i think it's
herself, where she's come from. it seems to be saying that going over and
over these things, analysing them, turning yourself inside out to get to
some kind of understanding of these things is, in the end futile. i don't
think it's saying "don't go there" - i just think it's saying, "don't
expect to find everything there".

one thing though: does anyone else feel uncomfortable about the line "it's
only life afterall"? i mean, i think it can be taken two ways. either as
being totally dismissive or more or less emily just having a laugh at
herself in a tone that says, almost sarcastically, 'yeah so what? it's only
life." i've never been totally sure of the tone.

whew.

helen - who can't remember hearing ctf the first time she saw them in
concert and hopes to god they continue to play it. the unity it creates is
so important!

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rob  wrote:
> that song is actually called "wishin and hopin" and ani does
> sing it on the "best friend's wedding" soundtrack.
> she talked about how sort of ironic it is on mrl.
> not typical ani but funny!

oops! - i haven't seen the movie - but i still stand by my comments
about joan armatrading & 'show some emotion.'

see... i should have added, "but i could be wrong." i *must* remember
that... (maybe i should just change my sig quote!)  :o)

yet again... how does that go... oh, yes... "to err is mel; to... "

kindly forgive my errs.  ;o)
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anne and others,

>i got a flyer from the seattle folklore society on their upcoming
concerts....

i've heard of several of the artists mentioned.  definitely see cheryl
wheeler if you have a chance. i went to a women's festival in albuquerque
2 years ago and she was wonderful.  what is the date and location of her
show?

~ resa


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dear listees,

what is the benefit concert for michelle malone about?  from what i gather
from the posts, i figure she's ill.  what's the story?  sorry for my
ignorance, but i've been off the list for awhile.

martha

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great show - nobody took me up on my offer, so i drove from seattle
solo. wore my ig t shirt and the man at the hotel thought i was with the
crew! got out the paperwork for their rooms and was going to put me
right in there. got that fixed (was lots of fun for a moment though).

funny thing about the road trip. i was feeling really bad karma about
the whole thing - even bought jumper cables and hose tape for the car.
no one could come, got in a bit of trouble at work for being gone the
1st week of school.  so. after breakfast in ellensburg i am driving down
the road getting bugged and bummered, driving and i look over at a truck
that pulled up next to me: indigo trucking. fuckin' cool or what? this
was what really blew away those black clouds that were in my head. i
thought it was too fabulous. i drove along with the truck for a little
too long, i think the driver was beginning to get the wrong idea. so i
had to ditch it.

got in line thurs afternoon about 3:30, maybe a dozen people ahead of
me. funny thing most of them if not all were from washington state.
seattle area. i guess the montana people had to go to class (hee hee).

the venue was fairly unattractive. a gymnasium. but there was no problem
with sitters vs. dancers, cause the sitters were up in the bleachers and
the dancers were all down on the floor, general admission.

of course, the first row up by the barricade - seattle people! yah we
love our ig. i was in the 2nd row. chose to be 2nd row in the middle
(dead center amy) rather than 1st row way over on the side.

jim boyd: opening act. good opening act, but not good enough for me to
forget how uncomfortable it is to be smashed way up front. i shouldn't
even complain. i saw you guys at bumbershoot. i just couldn't do it that
time. i guess it wasn't so bad...i knew when the girls came on i would
forget the feet, my back.

oh yeah indigo girls!

set list:

shame on you
hammer & a nail
three hits
get out the map
cut it out
virginia woolf
reunion
least complicated
romeo & juliet
power of two
jonas & ezekial
leeds
redemption dream

card collection here

scooter boys
galileo

encore:
chickenman
closer to fine

amy introduced her new guitar tech. says he's been on the job one month,
no broken strings. i think she is really happy with him.

the problem with being up so close is that all the speakers were going
out over our heads, so the usual crowd singing was much more noticeable
than usual. i swear this one girl behaind me was singing so loud she
must have been confused as to who was actually on the stage and who was
in the audience. i have no problem with singing during the audience
participation portions of the show, and even choruses, etc. still when
amy did r&j i am standing there, sobbing, and all these fuckin morons
are screaming out the words like it was choir practice. at least they
shut up during leeds.

got either amy's or em's set list. it was taped to one of the mikes. guy
wadded it up and threw it into the crowd. tip for those that want a
pick, etc. don't try to catch it, go to the floor. everybody misses. i
got a pick this way in seattle.

i was surprised that they dared to venture into the general admission
area to pick up cards. i have no idea if anyone in the crowd was
naughty. couldn't see shit. everyone was very rude while jim boyd sang
though. if i was him i woulda stopped singing and walked off.
professional i'm not. a singer i'm not.

misc. notes:

emily said hammer & nail was requested by someone in concert security.
she was walking down the hall and he said "hey amy!" har de har

amy really wrinkles her nose up cute when she sings jonas & eziekial
she does this also on the old austin city limits (singing j&e). see it
if you can. she also tosses her head from side to side. i can say my amy
infatuation began on seeing this tape.

i felt very lucky to get a whole regular show. 15 songs + 2 encores. i
am under the impression that some of the shows were about half that.

they were out of the cool t shirts. bummer me.

no slide show this time.

nice show. i'm glad i went. don't ever hesitate to go to a show alone. i
am not a friendly social type person, and after a couple of hours in
line, i always feel right at home. most ig people are so nice.

i can only see about 6 lines of this at a time on the screen, so i think
it is probably long enough by now.

paula

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too many to count, so please let me just thank everyone publicly for sending
your responses that yes, indeed, the kissing, hugging, loving, etc. song was
sung by ani. thanks for letting me win the bet that won me nothing :)

michelle

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i lost the original post requesting infor on an additional michelle malone
benefit in atlanta.  it will be oct 12 at smithe's olde bar will feature the
tender idols, piltdown man, and overlook plus special guest ?.  admission is
$6.  hope this helps.

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hey folks, the polls are closed!  no more votes on the shirt design will
be accepted!  any inquiries about the shirts should be
sent to deb reiser, who will be coordinating the production and
distribution of this year's list shirt.  thanks, y'all...

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it'd be easier to guess if i knew spanish... it may be called something like
"nuevos seniorita," but that probably makes no sense in spanish. :-)

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andy stahler <green51976@aol.com> wrote:
>as far as ani:  get her first self-titled album.
>i think it's her best work.

i couldn't disagree more... i like the last 4 (out of range, not a pretty
girl, dilate, living in clip) best!

>maybe i'm just nostalgic, but it really think it's the
>best one.  also, has anyone heard kristen hersh of throwing muses?

i've been a fan of the muses for about as long as ig ('88?).

>she has a
>solo album that rocks my world.

yes, "hips and makers" is great, and much more likely to appeal to ig fans
than throwing muses.  many may remember it for the single "ghost" which
features michael stipe.  more info at <http://www.throwingmusic.com/>.

> between this e-mail list and the david lynch e-mail list, i think it will
>all balance out to conform better to the duality of the universe...  or
>something

i love lynch too (but not enough to be on the listserv. <g>).  welcome, andy.
newbie note: try to remember to put "nigc" (no ig content) in your subject
when you wander off-topic!

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helen albans <halbans@dca.gov.au> wrote:
>one thing though: does anyone else feel uncomfortable about the line "it's
>only life afterall"?

well, we know that amy does.  she's said that she had a really hard time
singing that line, because she feels so strongly about the sanctity of life.

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if anyone out there is a fan of david poe i've got a cd of his someone
sent me. if you want it email me, maybe we could trade something?

lynda

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<more or less emily just having a laugh at
<herself in a tone that says, almost sarcastically, 'yeah so what? it's only
<life."

i agree with this interpretation, for what it's worth.

alisa

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there are two i don't understand."
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on sat, 4 oct 1997, joe hamilton wrote:

> hey folks,
>
> another fan in need of a little assistance. i don't have this. please send
> to her, not me!! and many thanks to those who help and 'take under their
> wing' these new traders! wonderful.
> we are fortunate ones,
> joe
>
>
> date: thu, 2 oct 1997 18:00:31 -0400 (edt)
> from: phishbeer@aol.com
> to: fortunateones@moonbase.com
> subject: you rock
> resent-date: thu,  2 oct 97 18:00:09 est
> resent-from: <fortunateones@moonbase.com>
> resent-to: fhamilto@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu
>
> first of all let me say your archive is awesome. second of all i was
> wondering if you by any chance have color me grey? i'll pay anything.
>
> -ashley  phishbeer@aol.com
>
> --


hey everybody, i'm a listee and i need color me grey badly.  can anyone
get me a copy?  i'd love you forever.  mail me privately please if you
can.  thanks a bunch!!!

peace, love, and of course, indigo

kelly   kstewart@eagle.cc.ukans.edu >

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>one thing though: does anyone else feel uncomfortable about the line "it's
>only life afterall"? i mean, i think it can be taken two ways. either as
>being totally dismissive or more or less emily just having a laugh at
>herself in a tone that says, almost sarcastically, 'yeah so what? it's only
>life." i've never been totally sure of the tone.

i read something somewhere in which amy said that when ctf was new, she was
really bothered by emily's line "it's only life after all".  amy was like,
you know, "it's more than that!"  but as they sang the song more, and she
got to know it, amy began to appreciate the irony.  after all, emily does
punctuate it with a definitely sarcastic-sounding "yeah".

on another note, i think it would be cool to hear the girls mess with the
song a little bit...make it bluesy, make it rock, add a piano,
whatever...kind of redefine it.  i don't know, that might insult the
sacredness of it...but it'd be fun.

justin


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a lot better if everyone put
little hats on their pet monkeys.

before that can happen,
everyone has to
get pet monkeys.

first thing's first.
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subject:      re : ctf

2 things.....

i think part of what might make ctf so enduring and so popular is
that the song may have different meanings for different people - the
same with all ig somngs - that means we can discuss our different
views of the song, and stil be able to hold fast to our own
interpretation.

on that subject, i think when emily sings "it's only life after
all", it sounds to me like she's singing about the way we almost
have to sometimes "see the wood for the trees" - there are times in
our lives when we can get too deep into our problems and realise
that our life is actually pretty good....

go ahead, flame me, i don't care.....

john.

(getting his asbestos suit on as we speak....)

"over my dead body....
ok, over my strong opinion..."

iolalus (hercules)

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joni is my joke guru and shes on vacation soooo
anyone know a really "good" joke?
i need one
sfwb!!

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hi i just got work of a couple of dates. they are unconfirmed (meaning i
haven't seen them listed on any on pollstar, ticketmaster, etc) but this is
the second time i've heard of the date on the 19th, so i'm forwarding the
info.

nov 18 / minnesota / assuming it's another northrup date
nov 19 / minneapolis, mn / northrup auditorium
nov 20 /  omaha, ne / venue not known

that's all i know so far.

deb

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i've noticed that melissa etheridge is mentioned a lot on this list and
referred to as mle.  could someone mind telling me her middle name?  :-)

thanks!
--sharon

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alright, i know this is going to be a strange (and vague) question, but
here goes:

i am wondering what kind of boots (audio or video) people on the list
have that they are willing to copy for me (i'll pay for the blank tape,
of course).  i don't really own many boots so i don't really know what's
out there.  basically, i'm asking if anyone has a favourite one with
pretty good quality, could you possibly email me??

let's see...i'm also not sure if there are any videos out there, or if
anyone has one that they can copy.  someone said something about a video
on the list a few days ago, but i don't know what the video is of.

so, if you have anything interesting that you think every ig fan should
have, please tell me.

again, sorry for making this such a vague question, and thanks for all
your help.
thanks, ya'll!!

sharon

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how about the one about the dyslexic agnostic insomniac?
  he lies awake all night wondering if there's a dog.

woo-hoo! i'm finally wearing my spanking new ig hte tee <grin>. kinda forgot
i bought it...


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in a message dated 97-10-07 15:16:08 edt, sharonb@geocities.com writes:

<< i've noticed that melissa etheridge is mentioned a lot on this list and
referred to as mle.  could someone mind telling me her middle name?  :-)
  >>

melissa's middle name is lou.

maureen

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my new best buddy liz just did some checking on the mn dates; yes indeedy,
ig will be in minneapolis at northrup auditorium on nov 18th and 19th.
tickets go on sale this saturday. cost is $26.50!

deb

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only the nov 19th date has been confirmed. tix for that show go one sale
this saturday. still trying to find out about the show on the 18th.

deb

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hey y'all,

just an observation.... for all that lack-of-midwest-touring
moaning that just went on, there sure hasn't been a whole lotta
cheering for the new michigan/ohio/minnesota/nebraska tour dates.
i actually thought that it was ironic that these dates would show
up so soon after some griping here on the list.

anyway, i'm hoping to go to the u. of mich. and u. of dayton
shows.  anyone else?

hip-hip-hurrays from
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hey all you midwesterners,
any more news on the dayton show?  i wanta onsale date. please post any info
that may arise--substantiated or not--to the list.
thanks ya'll
lisa


"the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less
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sorry deb....my mistake.

tickets for the 19th in mpls go on sale this sunday not saturday.

sunday.

s-u-n-d-a-y.

sunday.......call tb.

-lizliz-

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boots-boots-boots-boots-boots-boots-boots-boots-boots

anybody got a boot?

size 7


=0

=)


ha ha ha
joke for the day.....

jim

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>just an observation.... for all that lack-of-midwest-touring moaning that
>just went on, there sure hasn't been a whole lotta cheering for the new
>michigan/ohio/minnesota/nebraska tour dates.


since this is e-mail, you didn't see me put on my leotard and do the
backflips thru the living room.

i really did.

hey! i did!

-liz-(going to the 19th mn one!!)

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when is the michigan date agian?

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on tue, 7 oct 1997, kirby lee wrote:

> hey y'all,
>
> just an observation.... for all that lack-of-midwest-touring
> moaning that just went on, there sure hasn't been a whole lotta
> cheering for the new michigan/ohio/minnesota/nebraska tour dates.
> i actually thought that it was ironic that these dates would show
> up so soon after some griping here on the list.
>
> anyway, i'm hoping to go to the u. of mich. and u. of dayton
> shows.  anyone else?
>
> hip-hip-hurrays from
> kirby in indianapolis
>
>
i am all over both the concert on ann arbor and the one in dayton.  i am
very psyched for both of them and i will cheer as loud as possible to
show my jubilation!
jen in bowling green, oh>

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please!  if anyone out there knows about the pittsburgh sarah/dar concert,
please let me know.  i have been trying to get tickets, but can't find any
mention whatsoever about it...checked out ticketmaster, online concert
servers, but to no avail.  i know they are there, or at least were supposed
to be there, but how can i get tickets?  i'm dying here!

really wanting to go, but can't find out how,
alisa

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date:         tue, 7 oct 1997 19:09:48 -0400
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subject:      disappear fear

i saw a posting on the board about a week ago that said sonia of df was gonna
be at the 8 x 10 in baltimore in early november. does anybody out there know
the dates that she is gonna be there. i'd love to catch her show.

thanks

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date:         tue, 7 oct 1997 19:18:06 -0400
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have i been living in a hole or something?  what's this i  hear aboout ann
arbor?  when was it posted that the girls are going there???!!!?!?!?
when, where, how much, etc. etc.  i am thoroughly disoriented.  tell me
now, i hafta email my friend at emu who will pass out when she hears
this....
jill

on tue, 7 oct 1997, jennifer jo waldron wrote:

> on tue, 7 oct 1997, kirby lee wrote:
>
> > hey y'all,
> >
> > just an observation.... for all that lack-of-midwest-touring
> > moaning that just went on, there sure hasn't been a whole lotta
> > cheering for the new michigan/ohio/minnesota/nebraska tour dates.
> > i actually thought that it was ironic that these dates would show
> > up so soon after some griping here on the list.
> >
> > anyway, i'm hoping to go to the u. of mich. and u. of dayton
> > shows.  anyone else?
> >
> > hip-hip-hurrays from
> > kirby in indianapolis
> >
> >
> i am all over both the concert on ann arbor and the one in dayton.  i am
> very psyched for both of them and i will cheer as loud as possible to
> show my jubilation!
> jen in bowling green, oh>
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date:         tue, 7 oct 1997 19:42:28 -0400
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hey guys
anyone know the date of the final lilth fair date (vancouver)?
thanks!
lori

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sorry i guess my "i" button wasn't working.  i believe that the last lilith
fair date was aug 24, 1997.  is this correct?
thanks
lori

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date:         tue, 7 oct 1997 19:49:35 -0500
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howdy,

someone asked about a best-of album...  i thought i'd write in and say i
just saw a stack of 'em at tower records on south street in philadelphia.
i'd never heard of it either, so i asked about it and they said it was a
uk import that they've been carrying on and off since sometime in '95.
the price was around $21, it's got 15 songs...  and some pretty cool
artwork.  oh, and it's called "4.5: the best of the indigo girls"  (anyone
know what "4.5" is a reference to???)  i feel dumb, 'cause i've been
following ig as long as i can remember and i'd never heard about this
disc!

anyway, hope i've been helpful!

debbie (your friendly neighborhood indigeek)

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date:         tue, 7 oct 1997 20:09:43 -0400
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wait i missed it what michigan tour dates fro the indigo girls?>

on tue, 7 oct 1997, bong goddess wrote:

> >just an observation.... for all that lack-of-midwest-touring moaning that
> >just went on, there sure hasn't been a whole lotta cheering for the new
> >michigan/ohio/minnesota/nebraska tour dates.
>
>
> since this is e-mail, you didn't see me put on my leotard and do the
> backflips thru the living room.
>
> i really did.
>
> hey! i did!
>
> -liz-(going to the 19th mn one!!)
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for all that lack-of-midwest-touring moaning that
just went on, there sure hasn't been a whole lotta cheering for the new
michigan/ohio/minnesota/nebraska tour dates.

since this is e-mail, you didn't see me put on my leotard and do the
backflips thru the living room.

i'm saving my cheering for when i find out how to get my hands on those tickets for that dayton show, which btw is still 9 hours away from us in missouri   :(

still hopin'

lonekyot

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 22:10:55 -0400
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oh please, those of you who are kind souls and those of you who aren't....

could someone get me a ticket (or two) to the ig show tomorrow at suny
binghamton????

please?  i'll express the $$$ to you tomorrow, give you boots and pics,
whatever......

i'm at the end of my rope....  :)

thanks and peace-
karrie

ps.  ma, i know...i've already seen them....  :p  i need to see them
again!

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date:         tue, 7 oct 1997 20:34:09 -0400
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subject:      ann arbor specifics...

okay, i know my posts are getting through, cause i got one response about my
e-mail announcing the ann arbor date and all of the specifics, but i'll post it
again just in case some of you still need that info and missed it the first time
this past sunday.

the concert is friday november 14 at 8pm.  tickets go on sale at 10am this
coming saturday at a handful of ticketmaster locations here in town, as well as
on the cursed charge by phone line (810) 645-6666.  hill auditorium seats 4,177
(no i don't have it memorized...i just got off the phone with a music store
dude), and all shows there are reserved seating, so promptness only counts when
you buy the tickets.  the girls' date here last march sold out (about 2 or 3
thousand seats i think) in a day or two, so i wouldn't suggest waiting too long.
i think that's it.  good luck to you all, and it's certainly nice to see some
excitement on the list about this concert in my town.  i thought i was going to
be the only listee there!

take care...

marivel

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i think shakespeare best said the opposite of how i feel about today after
hearing about the minnesota date(s).

o lamentable day! o woeful time!...

accurst, unhappy, wretched, hateful day!
most miserable hour that e'er time saw...

o woe!  o woeful, woeful, woeful day!
most lamentable day, most woeful day
that ever, ever i did yet behold!
o day, o day, o day!  o hateful day!
never was seen so black a day as this.
o woeful day, o woeful day!

(_romeo and juliet_ 4.5.30-54)

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 22:26:52 -0400
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okay, they (you know, them) say all the lesbian references in xena are all
in our heads, but i don't believe it.  case in point:  did y'all see
tonight's episode (the one where the day keeps repeating itself)?  at one
point, jaxir (i know i mangled that spelling) says to xena, "is that a
hickey?"  gabrielle gets a very embarrassed look on her face!  now i know
it's not all in my head!  anyway, sorry for the nigc, i just had to get that
off my chest.  back to your regularly scheduled watching of xena.  enjoy!

elizabeth

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making your oatmeal, playing with your dog, doing your work,
your life just goes on.  and you learn to accept what is
unjust."
-alice walker

"i don't have a type.  it took me this long to narrow it
down to a gender."
-ellen

"i've crossed the last line
from where i can't return
where every step i took in faith
betrayed me
and led me from my home"
-sarah mclachlan

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 22:24:47 -0400
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hi folks-

michelle wrote:
> did ani really sing the opening song "kissin
> and huggin" or whatever it was called on the "my best friends wedding"
> movie soundtrack???? help us settle this debate. thanks.

"kissin and huggin" is by the very cool & under-appreciated, imho, -
joan armatrading. it's on her album 'show some emotion' - a classic,
early album (& still my fav). if you've never heard it - you should
check it out. because it's an oldie - the album is often in those
half-off cd bins.
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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 22:55:03 -0400
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hi-
more - official no indigo girl content - from mel

additional western tour dates -

nanci griffith & the blue moon orchestra [last tour together]

nov 03  austin city limits
         (w nitty gritty dirt band)     austin, tx
nov 05  union hall                      phoenix, az
nov 08  wiltern theatre                 los angeles,ca
nov 09  luther burbank center           santa rosa, ca
nov 10  warfield theatre                san francisco, ca
nov 12  5th avenue theatre              seattle, wa
nov 13  schnitzer hall                  portland, or
nov 15  mother lode                     butte, mt
nov 16  tba
nov 17  tba
nov 21  westport playhouse              st. louis, mo
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hey!  i called u of dayton.  i guess they'll have set details on thursday!
i can't wait!!!!  the ig's are coming to my damn backyard!  i am so so so
so psyched!  and yes, i screamed when i first heard about the dayton show
(i picked up the phone and called my professor/friend and i was like
"ohmygosh!!!! do you want to go to an indigo girls show in dayton?!"  we
both were on the verge of fainting...)
:-) karen
ps- dar in chicago last friday rocked!  my dream show would be an ig/dar
show!!!  ;-)

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at 10:24 pm 10/6/97 -0400, you wrote:
>hi folks-
>
>michelle wrote:
>> did ani really sing the opening song "kissin
>> and huggin" or whatever it was called on the "my best friends wedding"
>> movie soundtrack???? help us settle this debate. thanks.
>

that song is actually called "wishin and hopin" and ani does sing it on the
"best friend's wedding" soundtrack.  she talked about how sort of ironic it
is on mrl.  not typical ani but funny!

rob

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date:         tue, 7 oct 1997 22:21:24 -0400
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subject:      re: midwest tour dates

in a message dated 97-10-07 17:20:00 edt, you write:

> ust an observation.... for all that lack-of-midwest-touring
>  moaning that just went on, there sure hasn't been a whole lotta
>  cheering for the new michigan/ohio/minnesota/nebraska tour dates.
>  i actually thought that it was ironic that these dates would show
>  up so soon after some griping here on the list.
>

i've been cheering for the last 3 hours...i love you guys.  i probably
wouldn't have heard about this one until way too late if it wasn't for this
list.
thanks deb and liz and everyone else who posts dates (and corrections to
dates--and corrections to the corrections...)!!!!!!

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rob  wrote:
> that song is actually called "wishin and hopin" and ani does
> sing it on the "best friend's wedding" soundtrack.
> she talked about how sort of ironic it is on mrl.
> not typical ani but funny!

oops! - i haven't seen the movie - but i still stand by my comments
about joan armatrading & 'show some emotion.'

see... i should have added, "but i could be wrong." i *must* remember
that... (maybe i should just change my sig quote!)  :o)

yet again... how does that go... oh, yes... "to err is mel; to... "

kindly forgive my errs.  ;o)
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i think it's great that this song is being looked at. i would be really
interested to hear more interpretations of it because although we all know
generally what it's about, there are some quite obscure little phrases and
images in there. my husband and i one saturday morning, while snoozing,
launched into a word by word interpretation of it. strange thing to be
doing in bed on a saturday morning i know but i encourage any and all
interest in the girls that he has!

my take on 'the less i seek my source for some definitive the closer i am
to fine" is this: (and for a long time i wasn't sure): if you look at in
the context of the whole song, you see it's about going to places where
she's been or come from, university and so on and none of them have
provided answers about the meaning of her life. some but not full answers.
her source is where she's come from. i don't think it's god. i think it's
herself, where she's come from. it seems to be saying that going over and
over these things, analysing them, turning yourself inside out to get to
some kind of understanding of these things is, in the end futile. i don't
think it's saying "don't go there" - i just think it's saying, "don't
expect to find everything there".

one thing though: does anyone else feel uncomfortable about the line "it's
only life afterall"? i mean, i think it can be taken two ways. either as
being totally dismissive or more or less emily just having a laugh at
herself in a tone that says, almost sarcastically, 'yeah so what? it's only
life." i've never been totally sure of the tone.

whew.

helen - who can't remember hearing ctf the first time she saw them in
concert and hopes to god they continue to play it. the unity it creates is
so important!

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date:         tue, 7 oct 1997 20:49:09 -0500
reply-to:     "lisa m. schreihart" <lschreihart@juno.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "lisa m. schreihart" <lschreihart@juno.com>
subject:      flaming lynda

hey y'all!

public apology goes out ot lynda for the flame
i sent to the list when she said "enough
already!" about the list shirts.  i still stand by what i
said about the shirt being a worthy topic of discussion
and one that shouldn't be beat down.  if a person flames
or disagrees with the validity of a discussion, some
people might take offense to it (usually those people
who started the discussion), whether or not opinions
against the discussion are directed at a specific person or not.
anyway, i did take it personally, although i was probably
rash in doing so.  sorry for personally flaming you in
front of the list, lynda.

lisa

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date:         tue, 7 oct 1997 22:37:02 -0400
reply-to:     elizabeth skipper <skippeec@muohio.edu>
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from:         elizabeth skipper <skippeec@muohio.edu>
subject:      nigc:  dayton request
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hey,
i'll be gone this weekend (from thursday afternoon until sunday night).  i
really, really, really want to go to this dayton concert, so if something
happens this weekend (like names are taken for tickets, etc.), i'd really
appreciate it if someone could put me on a list or send me info or whatever
needs to be done.  thank you in advance.

elizabeth

visit my web page: http://miavx1.muohio.edu/~skippeec,
but don't make fun of it
~~~
"you just continue.  you just basically keep getting up and
making your oatmeal, playing with your dog, doing your work,
your life just goes on.  and you learn to accept what is
unjust."
-alice walker

"i don't have a type.  it took me this long to narrow it
down to a gender."
-ellen

"i've crossed the last line
from where i can't return
where every step i took in faith
betrayed me
and led me from my home"
-sarah mclachlan

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date:         tue, 7 oct 1997 22:41:19 -0400
reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      real audio server help???
content-type: text

i  saw a place on geocities which had d#@m um.. cool streaming audio - i
know how to encode files , but how do you make a streaming file - i know if
it can be done on geocities it can be done on my unix server.


thanks in advance.
mike r.

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date:         tue, 7 oct 1997 22:40:17 edt
reply-to:     scott a harris <harrisny1@juno.com>
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from:         scott a harris <harrisny1@juno.com>
subject:      obscure indigo girls cd

i have been desperatly trying to find a cd that was done by the indigo
girls.
the name of it is "shades of indigo".  it was a promo done in 1990, so it
was only sent out to radio stations.  i really would love any info you
may or may not have, or any ideas on how i might find the cd.  thank you
e-mail address: harrisny1@juno.com
                                        melissa

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date:         tue, 7 oct 1997 23:11:10 -0400
reply-to:     janice k clein <motordoll@juno.com>
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from:         janice k clein <motordoll@juno.com>
subject:      re: nigc: ani question

i thought "wishin' and hopin'" was a dusty springfield song.....

maybe i'm wrong....*shrug*

peace
janice


on mon, 6 oct 1997 23:03:48 +0000 rob hite <hiterj@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu>
writes:
>at 10:24 pm 10/6/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>hi folks-
>>
>>michelle wrote:
>>> did ani really sing the opening song "kissin
>>> and huggin" or whatever it was called on the "my best friends
>wedding"
>>> movie soundtrack???? help us settle this debate. thanks.
>>
>
>that song is actually called "wishin and hopin" and ani does sing it
>on the
>"best friend's wedding" soundtrack.  she talked about how sort of
>ironic it
>is on mrl.  not typical ani but funny!
>
>rob
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date:         tue, 7 oct 1997 23:27:25 -0400
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from:         "<joan madewell>" <zippyme@aol.com>
subject:      re: midwest tour dates
x-to:         indigo95@hotmail.com

do you think if we gripe enough they'll come to indiana?

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date:         mon, 6 oct 1997 22:29:04 -0700
reply-to:     resa m <resa@ipeg.com>
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from:         resa m <resa@ipeg.com>
subject:      re: nigc: seattle folklore society
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anne and others,

>i got a flyer from the seattle folklore society on their upcoming
concerts....

i've heard of several of the artists mentioned.  definitely see cheryl
wheeler if you have a chance. i went to a women's festival in albuquerque
2 years ago and she was wonderful.  what is the date and location of her
show?

~ resa


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