lifeblood: listlogs: 1997-11c


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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 00:28:45 -0500
reply-to:     alisa greenberg <agreenb1@swarthmore.edu>
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- "i'll give you my skin" from "tame yourself" (1991), by amy,emily, and
michael stipe


how can one come across this?

alisa


"...for everything i've learned
there are two i don't understand."
           emily saliers

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 00:28:50 -0500
reply-to:     keep on truckin <klrosenb@wittenberg.edu>
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from:         keep on truckin <klrosenb@wittenberg.edu>
subject:      dayton!!!!
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see everyone at dayton in less than 24 hours!!!!  yippie!!  i am so
excited!
love,
karen :-)

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 00:28:23 -0500
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from:         michelle reeves <mreeves74@aol.com>
subject:      melissa or indigo girl songs on web pages
x-to:         etheridge@esosoft.com

i'm working on a web page and went to a site to help with sound on a new web
building software i'm using. this is what was said and i'm curious if this
means all of us that have a wav of melissa or indigo girls singing are
operating illegally. any takers on this issue? are they just meaning bootleg
versions of songs. or commercially released songs? hmmm. here's the url for
those wanting to see what i'm talking about.
<a href="http://www.cnet.com/content/builder/authoring/audio/ss03.html">build
er.com - web authoring - make some noise...</a>

<snip>(one warning: it is illegal to record and redistribute copyrighted
sounds. so while you may think it's really cool to grab a verse of your
favorite song and post it on your site, the record company--and its
lawyers--could have a different opinion.)

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 00:32:07 -0500
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from:         abby houff <indigoares@aol.com>
subject:      weather in oh

tomorrow we set off for dayton, from maryland, and we were just
wondering......how cold is it really? is driving at all treacherous? any info
would be appreciated.
thanks,
abby

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 01:57:25 -0500
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hey, do any of you know how to get to u of d from columbus?  i know to
take i-270 to i-70 to i-75  but i do not know from there.  any help will
be appreciated.  thanx!!!

j&t

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 01:27:18 -0500
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from:         chloe c heymann <cch211@is8.nyu.edu>
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hey everybody,
i heard that the episode of on tour on pbs that has the indigo girls in it
was supposed to be on tonight. however, my friend and i turned on the tv,
for the second week in a row, only to be dissapointed and find out that
they showed a different episode. i'm really confused because i even
checked the show's website and it says that the indigo girls were supposed
to be featured this week. did anyone else try watching it? if anybody
knows anything about this or why the show keeps saying that it is going to
have this episode and then doesn't show it could you please e-mail me
back. i can be reached at:

cch211@is8.nyu.edu  (address all lowercase)

thanks a lot,
chloe

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 01:29:25 -0500
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in a message dated 97-11-15 01:27:05 est, agreenb1@swarthmore.edu writes:

<<  - "i'll give you my skin" from "tame yourself" (1991), by amy,emily, and
michael stipe


how can one come across this? >>

check out the bargain bin @ record stores, maybe even best buy!! although i
haven't been in a record store lately (and i am in need of a fix!!) i used to
see 'em there a lot. pretty good cd. awesome song, one of my favorites.

rick
*it feels so funny to be free...*

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 01:47:34 -0500
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      ann arbor and tonight
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well tonight kicked ass i was not to far back on amy side and it ruled
couple tihngs for you who went to it
1 did we get it booted?
2 what was the cover amy and emily did after scooter boys i didnt
recognize the song was this a new oneor a neil young song it was hard
rocking (if it was one of theirs after scooter then go to the nxt one<g<>(
3 the man who yelled out romeo and juliet when amy walked out after emily
solo was me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and right after she started to play romeo and
juliet and everyone in my area just looked back at me like how did u
know<g> i wish i coulda met you listees maybe next time
hugs anthony van pyre

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date:         fri, 14 nov 1997 23:12:39 -0800
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go to vegan action's merchandise web page. it's only $2 for the tape.
-sam (still waiting for inspiration to hit so she can write her college
essay)

on sat, 15 nov 1997, alisa greenberg wrote:

>  - "i'll give you my skin" from "tame yourself" (1991), by amy,emily, and
> michael stipe
>
>
> how can one come across this?

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 03:09:52 -0500
reply-to:     marivel danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
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from:         marivel danielson <marivel@m.imap.itd.umich.edu>
subject:      endless ann arbor post...

good evening all (or i guess good morning depending on what you all consider
3:08am)!

well i thought i was gonna be the first to post, but someone beat me to it while
i was writing this insanely long post as i listened to the boot again.  yes i
got a boot.  i don't know how good the quality is.  i'm just happy to have it on
tape since i don't think a boot of last spring's ann arbor concert even exists
(but hey, if i'm wrong and one of you has the boot of ann arbor 3/24/97 at
michigan theater please let me know!!!)  but alright, on with this post.

let's see...setlist (which the wonderfully sweet and thoughtful emily
*personally* handed to me after closer to fine!):

1.  three hits
2.  it's alright
3.  shame on you
4.  get out the map
5.  don't give that girl a gun
6.  least complicated
7.  shed your skin
8.  love will come to you
9.  tried to be true
10. power of two
11. scooter boys
12. leeds
13. romeo and juliet
14. chickenman
15. galileo
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
1.  hey kind friend
2.  box of tissues (with sonia)
3.  closer to fine (  "    "  )

alright, now for the details...after three hits amy and emily both thanked us
all for coming and seemed a little overwhelmed by the crowd (probably because
they had had a few days off to live "normal" lives for a while.  and after
hitting a few questionable notes in this first song, amy announced, "i was just
thinking that i was choppin' wood yesterday and today i'm singin' out of tune."
then emily said "yeah, me too, but i was feeding my dog."  and amy looked over
at her and with the most puzzled of expressions asked, "feeding your dog???"  i
don't really get that.  like why would that be so strange to amy that em was
feeding her puppy?  something we'll never know i guess.  but enough obsessing
over this minor detail.  off we go quickly my friends to yet another still more
obscure and minute detail!!!

dgtgag was incredible as always.  sweat and saliva flying.  and right before she
does that new part ("give that back...") she turned her head into her shoulder
and just stayed there for a few seconds.  i don't know if she was wipin' tears
or sweat or spit, but it looked pretty dramatic...like she might not be able to
finish, but she did and it was of course brilliant.  she stepped away from the
mic when she did these last few lines, and it didn't even seem like she cared
what it sounded like at that point, she's was just singing, and whatever the mic
happened to pick up, well then that's what was meant to be heard.  i like that.
the music came before the performance (which it usually does for both of them).

hmmm.  least complicated was a "sing-a-long" as emily always refers to it.  we
came in late on the repeat of the first verse and this made them laugh.  but
when we came in we were loud and this of course pleased them inmensly.  the na
na's were loud too.  maybe because of the organization of the venue.  there was
a main floor and 2 balconies.  so there were people all the way up to the
ceiling practically.  i'm sure it helped our acoustics, but i felt so bad for
all those poor souls stuck all the way up there near the light fixtures.

something happened in shed your skin towards the middle.  you know that part
when emily bends over and picks up that big black thing that she uses for the
"slidy" part (someone technical please save me here).  well she picked it up and
started playing, but instead of her usual electric solo, all that came out was
one big long loud note that seemed beyond em's control.  at least that's how i'm
interpreting it.  if it was actually a really cool jammin' solo then someone who
was there please correct me.  well anyway, amy ran over to emily when this note
started filling the auditorium and they said something to each other and then
amy told emily "i can't do it!  i can't do it!"  i don't know what that meant
either, but there you have it.  then they finished and made their typical "that
was a stupid one!" faces and went on to...

love will come to you!  i love this song so much.  it kind of set the tone for
the whole show.  pretty mellow in my opinion.  the audience was energetic and
everything, but it just seemed pretty relaxed and calm compared to some other
shows i've been to recently.  not that that's a bad thing!

i don't know what they're saying here before power of two.  can anyone help me?
emily says "we were thinking that we were just here in in the springtime."  and
amy says, "yeah, but what we're wondering is..."  now if some kind soul can
remember what the heck amy says here...you'll win a lovely free copy of my aa
boot (if you don't already have one).  anyone remember???

scooter boys.  at one point the song appeared to end, but it turned out to be
just amy sort of taking a breather.  she stopped for a second and the audience
started applauding, and emily even walked up to the her mic and said "yeah" like
she was gettting ready to say "thanks y'all", but then amy started playing again
and went into her soc about the everglades and the driver that slipped away.
and instead of the line about being worried about her fear, tonight she said
"worried about my weight", and tonight it was "bane" rather than "blame" (for
those keeping track!)

oh, leeds.  this was cute.  emily starts playing and gets through the first few
chords, and then stops and looks out at us.  then starts again.  then stops and
laughs and says, "i just realized i could play any chord on the piano and it
doesn't have to be wrong".  then she played 2 really out of tune chords and
looked out at the audience with this huge smile (i tried to get a picture!), and
then on her 3rd chord she went right back into a beautiful version of leeds.  so
there's a life lesson for you all from our own ms. saliers.  nothing is really
wrong unless you say it is.  i'm counting on this bit of wisdom to get me
through a monster womens studies paper i have to write for next week!

chickenman.  well the first thing i noticed was that dave (right?) the harmonica
dude came out on stage before the song even started.  i guess he wanted to avoid
what happened at the geneseo show (or maybe it was geneva) when they got all the
way to his first solo entrance and amy turned around and freaked out cause he
wasn't there.  so they did a little improv and he finally emerged from the back
of the stage.  but that wasn't going to happened tonight...and both amy and
emily seemed extremely impressed with his work in both of his solo sections.
and while i'm on this topic...does anyone ever think of a hoe down (spelling?)
when amy is clapping along during the harmonica part.  i swear she brings me
back to all those little house on the prairie episodes with the fiddle and the
swishy dresses.

oh, and far be it from me to leave out the fashion report.  amy was in one of
the lovely stiped shirts from her retro ray collection (thick deep bluish purple
stripes) and the same grey pants i've seen her in for 4 of the 5 shows i've been
at these past few weeks.  but who knows, maybe she just has eleven pairs of the
exact same style.  and emily had that rust-toned flowered shirt that kind of
looks like photographs (i know...bad description) and jeans i think.  when i
first saw amy i could have sworn she had cut her hair, and come to think of it,
emily's looked a little flippy on the sides like maybe she took an inch or two
off of it as well.  geez, i'm such a geek.  i can't believe i'm actually writing
this stuff!  sorry to be wasting bandwidth like this.  probably there were no
haircuts.  just don't mind me...

oh, amy called hey kind friend "folk music".

box of tissues.  amy informed us that this was sonia's song.  beautiful and slow
with amy and emily harmonizing angelically in the background.  oh if only the
girls could do backup for everyone in the music industry!  i'm never gonna get
this out of my head--and i'm okay with that: "i'll sail away, i'll sail away..."

during closer to fine sonia stayed out and i guess was supposed to sing the last
verse, but there was some confusion and they just kept playing the intro bars
over and over and over again.  so by the time everyone was pretty hysterically
laughing she finally came in and with a little help from the rest of us finished
the verse.

oh this part is for deb.  during sonia's set amy came out first and then sulli
and then emily and then sara.  so they were all huddling behind some speakers
with the keifer look-a-like (emily's guitar tech--brett i think) and then sulli
went over to sara and put her arm around her and turned to her and gave her the
sweetest little kiss on the top of the head.  i guess maybe it was a tough night
or something.  but you know this just confirms our assumption, deb.  sulli is
the single sweetest being on earth (now if only it were your head instead!).
but a close second to sulli is emily who was nice enough to unstick her setlist
from the floor and wait for me at the edge of the stage while i worked my way up
so that she could make sure i got it.  and amy's done the same thing for me 3
other times, so she has to be very high up on this sweetness scale too.
obviously it has to be a three-way tie...

and sonia's set was good.  i did get most of it booted, but i missed a song or 2
at the beginning  cause i had to get to a bathroom to make sure my recorder was
gonna run.  she's really talented.  loud and strong and passionate.  a lot of
her boot turned out quite good considering the crappy $40 machine i'm working
with.  she sang something that was about "sexual telepathy" and mentioned how
nice it was to be performing under lavender lights!  sorry i can't give you a
setlist for her part of the show.  i don't know her well enough to recognize
songs, but if anyone really wants to hear this (ie. karrie) give me a little
shout and i'll dub it for you.

okay so that's about it.  i waited for a few minutes outside by the buses but
there were a million people and the bus was pulled right up to the door, so i
gave up and came home to post.  my only complaint on the night would be that
they played that damn rubber tree song right after the concert ended, so i was
trying to watch sulli and catch a pick (with a "k" or without?) and i would find
myself singing along with this stupid song.  i'm sure i looked like a total
idiot, but that's okay cause i got a setlist from emily and a boot (well 2
really) and i couldn't ask for more.  except maybe to be at dayton tomorrow.
sigh.  oh well.  i fully expect all of you lucky listees that will be there to
post excruciatingly detailed posts full of pointless obsession and awe.  okay?
thanks for listening...


marivel

"oh! oh!  check.  one, two.  liberty!  love!"
"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...beautiful...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah."
"does that sound a little muddy to you?"

         --immortal words from someone we all know and love...

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 03:16:36 -0500
reply-to:     marivel danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
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from:         marivel danielson <marivel@m.imap.itd.umich.edu>
subject:      re: ann arbor and tonight

> 1 did we get it booted?

yes as i mentioned in my huge post, i did boot it.

> 2 what was the cover amy and emily did after scooter boys i didnt
> recognize the song was this a new one or a neil young song it was hard
> rocking (if it was one of theirs after scooter then go to the nxt one<g<>(

umm...cover after scooter boys???  what cover?  do you mean the soc?  cause the
only thing after scooter boys was leeds and that was not both of the girls and
it was most definately not a cover, so i guess that's not what you're talking
about.

>i wish i coulda met you listees maybe next time

i agree.  i hung out after the show for a few minutes by the ladies room on the
main floor and tried to look like i was looking for someone, but no luck.  i
didn't see anyone, and no one saw me.  so if y'all did meet, i hope you had a
wonderful time and enjoyed my beautifully chilly ann arbor.  it's great to visit
other places, but you know there is nothing in the world like being 5 minutes
away from a warm bed at all times during the evening.  hope everyone's trip back
is safe and uneventful...

marivel

"oh! oh!  check.  one, two.  liberty!  love!"
"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...beautiful...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah."
"does that sound a little muddy to you?"

         --immortal words from someone we all know and love...

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 03:29:39 -0500
reply-to:     marivel danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
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from:         marivel danielson <marivel@m.imap.itd.umich.edu>
subject:      re: endless ann arbor post...

>so they were all huddling behind some speakers with the keifer look-a-like
>(emily's guitar tech--brett i think)...

sorry about this out of control posting reflex i'm having.  i just wanted to
point out that i used the wrong name here.  the keifer look-a-like is amy's
guitar tech, not emily's.  we all know that emily's instruments are sulli's
business, right deb?!?

marivel

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date:         fri, 14 nov 1997 12:58:06 -0700
reply-to:     longwell.ls@juno.com
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from:         "lance s. longwell" <longwell.ls@juno.com>
subject:      red rocks boot and tori amos

does anyone have boots for the red rocks show in denver on july 17th and
18th?

now, for my nigc (and wasting b/w).  but does anybody know if there is a
tori amos e-mail list?  any information would be greatly appreciated.


lance sterling longwell
university of colorado at boulder
e-mail: longwell.ls@juno.com

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 04:19:36 -0500
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subject:      mailing list

hi there...

i would like to put myself on the mailing list.

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 09:15:23 -0500
reply-to:     buddy45687@aol.com
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from:         ":) thanks!" <buddy45687@aol.com>
subject:      re: please...(nigc)

well...it looks like i am emerging from my usual lurking to apologize for a
post my birthmom wrote in. sorry for the waste of bw but she just didn't
understand this list.  ya know what? she doesn't know that i've read it...and
she told me a x-mas present that i'm getting! :) ok...well only 10 1/2 more
hours to go till dayton! :)

peace and indigo happiness,
jenni

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 10:10:04 -0500
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subject:      re: ann arbor and tonight
x-to:         madonajk@alpha.delta.edu

in a message dated 97-11-15 01:46:52 est, madonajk@alpha.delta.edu writes:

<< 3 the man who yelled out romeo and juliet when amy walked out after emily
solo was me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and right after she started to play romeo and
juliet and everyone in my area just looked back at me like how did u
know<g> >>


that was no surprise to me that she was going to play that song.  it was
after emily's solo, and here comes amy looking like she was going to do a
solo.  i wasn't surprised at all.  and i was very happy because that's my
absolute favorite song!!!

janeen

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 09:41:29 pst
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in 30 minutes we will be leaving for dayton.  our first ig concert.  your posts have ignited the excitement that was alrealy there.  thanks for the descriptions of last nights concert.

kim & rhea

look to the moon cause it's a fact
she may go wandering about
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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 10:33:38 -0500
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i notice you didnt say much about romeo and juliet so i will  there were a
couple songs where amy got really choked up (my opinion) and her voice got
real gritty and harsh which was cool i almost didnt think she was gonna
finish this song to because she seemed choked up on it and when she
switched it from 3rd person to first person it just rocked  better then
any boot ive heard of it so full of emotion

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 10:28:20 -0500
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on sat, 15 nov 1997, marivel danielson wrote:
>
> well i thought i was gonna be the first to post, but someone beat me to it while
> i was writing this insanely long post as i listened to the boot again.  yes i
sorry<g>

> got a boot.  i don't know how good the quality is.  i'm just happy to have it on
> tape since i don't think a boot of last spring's ann arbor concert even exists
ill take it whatever quality it is
>
> 1.  three hits
> 2.  it's alright
> 3.  shame on you
> 4.  get out the map
> 5.  don't give that girl a gun
> 6.  least complicated
> 7.  shed your skin
> 8.  love will come to you
> 9.  tried to be true
> 10. power of two
> 11. scooter boys
your missing a song right here its a song i have never heard before and im
pretty sure it was right here after scooter boys it was a hard rocking
song i didnt recognize least im pretty sure it was right after scooter
boys

> 12. leeds
> 13. romeo and juliet
did you hear me yell right before this<>g>

> 14. chickenman
> 15. galileo
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> 1.  hey kind friend
> 2.  box of tissues (with sonia)
> 3.  closer to fine (  "    "  )
>
k

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 10:57:03 -0500
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hey y'all,

i guess i was out of the loop on the book signing thing.
could someone please post or send me some info about
who/what/where/when it was about?  i lost some time
on the list when i was putting together my new computer.

now i am in the big leagues with my new computer,
which i can actually surf the net with, well i can now
do almost everything i couldn't do before with it!

"toys for girls"  -e.saliers

take care and peace!

-deb

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 10:40:55 -0500
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oh i wasnt surprised either thats why i waited right to then to scream it
because i figured if it was gonna be any time it was gonna be then since
we have been hearing on the list that she wsa doing it and it made me
extremly happy since i didnt hear it on the rop tour course i didnt hear
galilio on the rop tour either<g> and its one of my favs songs to  read my
other post abotu how i felt abotu it

on sat, 15 nov 1997 sunstarmn@aol.com wrote:

> in a message dated 97-11-15 01:46:52 est, madonajk@alpha.delta.edu writes:
>
> << 3 the man who yelled out romeo and juliet when amy walked out after emily
>  solo was me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and right after she started to play romeo and
>  juliet and everyone in my area just looked back at me like how did u
>  know<g> >>
>
>
> that was no surprise to me that she was going to play that song.  it was
> after emily's solo, and here comes amy looking like she was going to do a
> solo.  i wasn't surprised at all.  and i was very happy because that's my
> absolute favorite song!!!
>
> janeen
>

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okay, all i can say is i am so so so so so so so psyched for tonight!  i
really hope they do power of 2!!!  it's about time i hear that song live!!
also, what do y'all think their chances for doing watershed are????
probably slim to none, ut i can only hope!  hey, i was at a concert this
summer where they did you and me of the 10,000 wars and that one shocked
me!  okay, see all you dayton people tonight!!!!!!!!!!!

:-) karen

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j.pyles wrote:
>
> hey, do any of you know how to get to u of d from columbus?  i know to
> take i-270 to i-70 to i-75  but i do not know from there.  any help will
> be appreciated.  thanx!!!

  - south on i-75 to intercahnge 51 (should be marked edwin c moses
blvd). left (which is kinda northeast) on edwin c moses blvd to address
1801 (the arena).

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will anybody be kind enough, when they get the chance, to post the setlist
sometime after the dayton concert?

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yep, sarah's already working on it; just heard on the radio (mix 98.5 for
you fellow improper bostonians)

they refererred to it as a "world tour" with sarah, ig, lisa loeb, sheryl
crow and lil kim(?), a rap artist--"opening up the show to all genres".
hmmmm.  sooo maybe the rest of the planet will hear ig next summer.  and of
course, they'll make half a dozen stops in the northeast again.  ;)

h
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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 08:27:52 -0500
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chloe c heymann wrote:

> hey everybody,
> i heard that the episode of on tour on pbs that has the indigo girls
> in it
> was supposed to be on tonight. however, my friend and i turned on the
> tv,
> for the second week in a row, only to be dissapointed and find out
> that
> they showed a different episode. i'm really confused because i even
> checked the show's website and it says that the indigo girls were
> supposed
> to be featured this week. did anyone else try watching it? if anybody
> knows anything about this or why the show keeps saying that it is
> going to
> have this episode and then doesn't show it could you please e-mail me
> back. i can be reached at:
>
> cch211@is8.nyu.edu  (address all lowercase)
>
> thanks a lot,
> chloe

please post this info to the group, if you have it, we'd all like to
know when to watch!!

love, karen

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dear kind people who will be at the show tommorrow..
as this will be my very first ig show ever i guess i need to go over the
rules once more..
everyone ( but me) should remain seated
everyone (but me) shall be quiet
everyone (but me) shall refrain from holding up any signs
its ok if you applaud..but do it quietly
no whoo hooing,,it bothers my hearing aid
at the part in the show where emily asks" is there anyone in the
audience wants to come up and sing with us and then come backstage and
then then be our friend for life and then move to atlanta and house sit
our respective homes while we are on the road...? " you are all to say
slowly and distinctly..
oh no...we think you should ask pooh..she really deserves that...

ok...now thats not much to ask is it..
so..chiquita..you will behave,,no chineses new years schreeching
d(be nice to me or mountianlady will slap you) shulman: make sure that
since you are in the balcony and i am on the main floor(hahahahaha)
..make sure you shine the followspot on me when em asks that question
nic(who hasn't sent me any jokes lately)..you'll have to drive my car
back to mchenry since i'll be staying with the girls ( don't worry..i'll
cover the rainbow on the bumper)
mjg333( who i think has fallen off the face of the earth)..show up..ok?
greggy!!! you can do whatever....cause i luv you so!!

now..thats not too much to ask ,,is it?????

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subject:      tix for boston show!!!

greetings to all in the land of indigo!

well, i finally had succes with scoring decent seats for
the boston show, row j orchestra.  the first two times
i called this morning, right at 10am, i got offered balcony
row h, then balcony row q.  i'm lucky they finally moved
to selling orchestra seats, i was worried that it would be
sold out since my first two tries landed me in the balcony.

does anyone have any other info on this show, other than
the date and time?  on the orpheum web page it just says
"an acoustig gig" with the indigo girls.  i heard it was possibly
a benefit show, but for who?  inquiring minds want to know.

hope everyone else had success with seats.  see y'all there!

take care and peace!

-deb

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 08:20:07 -0500
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well, i rushed out and bought ring them bells by j. baez. (please don't
flame me) and *gag* hated it.  if anyone wants it email me and i'll be
glad to give it up for the cost of postage.

love, peace and all that other stuff...karen

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 08:25:44 -0500
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fourth (i didn't mean to have such a long list... sorry) today, i
acquired a
wood covered promo copy of 1200 curfews, still sealed. what's inside?!?
i
don't want to tear the paper seal to find out, but i'm curious.  why was
this
version released and how many were put out?  thanks for any info.

i don't know anything about a wood box, but 1200 curfews is my favorite
cd...its all live stuff, digitaly (forgive spelling) and i think there
are about 35 of their songs.  i really like the live stuff in the car,
and the studio stuff when its quiet time.

love,  karen

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 13:15:16 -0400
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i *had* an ann arbor post for y'all.  but it got lost in the messed up
mail server at my friend's school.  i will repost it on sun. probably,
since i have no time now, i'm running out the door to go to dayton.
jill

yes, the clothes make the man.
but the woman makes the clothes.
so what does that make the woman?

--meryn cadell

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 13:17:13 -0400
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please be careful-- there's a snowstorm in southwestern michigan-- i just
drove thru it a little bit ago!  the snow in ohio went from icy and grainy
to what it now fluffy and view-obstructing.  but it doesn't appear to be
sticking to the roads, which is good.  just be careful, we want y'all safe
and at the listgather.
jill

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but the woman makes the clothes.
so what does that make the woman?

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 13:18:48 -0400
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aaahhh if i'm not there in that lobby at 4:30 , wait for me, i'm coming,
just
running a tad late.  planning on sneaking in with stephanie...
jill

yes, the clothes make the man.
but the woman makes the clothes.
so what does that make the woman?

--meryn cadell

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is there any way to see the past posts (like in may) about the indigo girls
concerts in atlanta?            chelsea

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hey folks,

i thought i would give one final mention about the michelle malone benefit
sale i have going on. first, thanks a million to those who have donated
already, whether it be to me or in previous instances..it's really great
to feel the sense of community.

i've still got quite a few interesting collectible offered as incentives
for your contribution. check out my site:

                http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones

click on the indigo girls news link for all the information. if you see
something you really like, but can't afford a full donation, let me know.
i'm resigned to giving these collectibles away, so any help, even if not
the full suggested donation, would be great. if you have trouble accessing
the list (it's a frames page), let me know and i can send it to you via
email. i hope to present the checks a card and a hug to her sometime
during thanksgiving week..how about one final push? thanks for your time!
we are fortunate ones,
joe

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 13:30:59 -0600
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ummmm, i'd like to clarify pooh's little "rules" up just a tad bit...(she's
getting a little confused in her ripe old age..)

at 10:22 am 11/16/97 -0800, pooh wrote:
>everyone ( but me) should remain seated

she really meant everyone should remain stnading just as long you dont
block her from her aisle view from her wheelchair

>everyone (but me) shall be quiet

be as loud as you want. wooohooo until the cows come home.  pooh likes it
when everyone's excited (pooh, take your geritol so you can join in too)

>everyone (but me) shall refrain from holding up any signs

again....just be curteous of the old chick's view cuz she's in her chair

>its ok if you applaud..but do it quietly

well, doesnt matter if you do it loud or soft, just make sure that if you
clap along with the song -- please clap along with the beat

>no whoo hooing,,it bothers my hearing aid

dont worry about this one folks...i'll get there early to hook pooh's
miracle ear up to the sound board...

>at the part in the show where emily asks" is there anyone in the
>audience wants to come up and sing with us and then come backstage and
>then then be our friend for life and then move to atlanta and house sit
>our respective homes while we are on the road...? " you are all to say
>slowly and distinctly..
>oh no...we think you should ask pooh..she really deserves that...

yeah, i guess she deserves that...but if she flies outta that wheelchair
like a bat outta hell, i'm gonna personally take out a can of whup-ass on
pooh for all the old geezer stuff she pulls on us

>ok...now thats not much to ask is it..
>so..chiquita..you will behave,,no chineses new years schreeching

ummmmm.....sez who i'll behave?!  and if some of you end up sitting behind
me, please dont tell me to sit down cuz i might come back there to take you
out (i have a hard time sitting at concerts ok? :p)

>d(be nice to me or mountianlady will slap you) shulman:
(mental note...hire d as bodyguard just in case i really piss someone off..)

but the number one rule is...sing along (where appropriate)  okay??  i know
i get warm fuzzies when a whole auditorium of peeps are singing along (in
key, in unison) and i'm sure the girls dig that too.  besides, we dont
wanna scare them off and wait another 5 #$@%^*! years before they come back
to play here again...

hey flamer...we should start up a petition thing to get the girls to come
to the metro...

holy sh*t this post is getting damn long...
i'm ending it right here.
---chiquita susita (not to be mistaken for the cheesy susita)

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i'm down on my knees begging...offering up anything you want (well...kinda)

anyone out there have a boot of the new mongrel's show at eddie's attic
from march 1994????

if you do, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease email me?  you'll make a whole
buncha peeple happy...(especially this one grl i know...)

---sue

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thanks for the quotes.  it helped alot.  i'll still take any you have to
offer.
cheri

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lost yer addy..
need you to settle a debate..
contact me ok???
hheh heh heh

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              hum

in a message dated 11/15/97 11:13:47 am, pooh40@mc.net wrote:

<<d(be nice to me or mountianlady will slap you) shulman: make sure that
since you are in the balcony and i am on the main floor(hahahahaha)>>

hey pooh!

that's the mountain-climbing warrior-woman to you, and she does not slap...
she smacks!  and i'm quite sure she doesn't like that thinly cloaked
insinuation about me being on top. ;)

dee

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rap???  sarah, you've got to be joking.

; )  karen

h wrote:

> yep, sarah's already working on it; just heard on the radio (mix 98.5
> for
> you fellow improper bostonians)
>
> they refererred to it as a "world tour" with sarah, ig, lisa loeb,
> sheryl
> crow and lil kim(?), a rap artist--"opening up the show to all
> genres".
> hmmmm.  sooo maybe the rest of the planet will hear ig next summer.
> and of
> course, they'll make half a dozen stops in the northeast again.  ;)
>
> h
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okay. here's what i know about the on tour thing. (by the way, hi, i'm
back on the list) i remember them already being on a couple of weeks ago,
twice...once as the featured artist, and then the next week (or some
incredibly short period of time after that) as part of a "ladie's night".
the odd thing is, hard rock cafe on vh1 did the same thing a few days
later, which really surprised me. anyway, they performed on on tour the
same night that meat loaf was on, which is why i remember. but, as always,
i could be wrong...

meghan

*just more questions...
different kinds*

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so i was all set to write out a great ann arbor review, but since i flew
here to visit a friend (nice how it so conveniently coincided w/ an ig
concert, huh? :), i felt bad e-mailing last night.  but then marivel
wrote everything i was going to write!  but seriously, marivel, it was
cool reading your post b/c it just brought back memories of the show.  it
was interesting seeing an ig concert w/ people who werenõt huge fans.  my
friend & her roommates have a couple cdõs & knew a lot of ig songs, but
iõm used to going w/ people who know every word to every song!  everyone
i went w/ had never seen ig before (it was my 10th ig concert!), but they
loved it!  i also made them into huge sonia fans b/c i played the
disappear fear cd for them a few times yesterday.  speaking of sonia, it
was my first time seeing her live, & i loved her!  i definitely recommend
seeing her if you ever get the chance.  i only have 2 df cdõs, & she
played lots of stuff from the self-titled one, & nothing from seeds in
the sahara.  hereõs the set list, or at least the songs i knew or ones
she announced:
is there anybody here
whoõs so scared
new song (something about feeling & love)
?  (had da daõs in the middle)
moment of glory
love insurance
sexual telepathy
washington work song
she said lots of cute things, like about how sheõs used to playing in
little places, not big places like that w/ lavender lights.  and before
love insurance, she explained that she thought that in a relationship,
both people should have to put money in a pot, & then when one person
broke up w/ the other, the other person could get the money.  before
washington work song, she said that she was in washington dc the other
day, & she played for a group of 200 people in wheelchairs, & she thought
they were so much braver than she ever could be.  she said that she was
dragging around something on wheels recently, & she thought about how she
couldnõt get to so many places w/ it, & these people were always on
wheels.  so she dedicated that song to them.  and during it, she changed
on of the ņwashingtonõsó to ņmichigan.ó  she was drinking coke when she
was up there too, which i just found funny.

okay, onto ig.  they were in top form as usual!  i suppose i should just
add on to what marivel wrote, b/c she covered everything really well.

marivel wrote (& from now on, whenever i use <<ōs, itõs referring to what
she wrote):
<<there was a main floor and 2 balconies.  so there were people all the
way up to the ceiling practically.  i'm sure it helped our acoustics, but
i felt so bad for all those poor souls stuck all the way up there near
the light fixtures.>>

yeah, i was in the 2nd row of the 1st balcony, & it wasnõt too bad...it
wasnõt as cool as being on the floor, but i was surprised that i had as
good of a view as i had.  no oneõs heads were in the way, so that was
nice.  and i had binoculars, so i could see pretty well.

<<something happened in shed your skin towards the middle.  you know that
part when emily bends over and picks up that big black thing that she
uses for the "slidy" part (someone technical please save me here).  well
she picked it up and started playing, but instead of her usual electric
solo, all that came out was one big long loud note that seemed beyond em's
control.  at least that's how i'm interpreting it.  if it was actually a
really cool jammin' solo then someone who was there please correct me.
well anyway, amy ran over to emily when this note started filling the
auditorium and they said something to each other and then amy told emily
"i can't do it!  i can't do it!"  i don't know what that meant
either, but there you have it.  then they finished and made their typical
"that was a stupid one!" faces and went on to...>>

i noticed that too, but i thought a was saying, ņitõs too loud!  itõs too
loud!ó to e.  of course, you were much closer, so iõm probably wrong.
that note was definitely a wrong one though.

<<i don't know what they're saying here before power of two.  can anyone
help me? emily says "we were thinking that we were just here in in the
springtime."  and amy says, "yeah, but what we're wondering is..."  now
if some kind soul can remember what the heck amy says here...you'll win a
lovely free copy of my aa boot (if you don't already have one).  anyone
remember???>>

oh, yeah...i have this one covered!  a said, ņyeah, but what we're
wondering is are we at the point of diminishing returns?ó  do i win a
boot? :)

<<oh, and far be it from me to leave out the fashion report.  amy was in
one of the lovely stiped shirts from her retro ray collection (thick deep
bluish purple stripes) and the same grey pants i've seen her in for 4 of
the 5 shows i've been at these past few weeks. >>

i thought that aõs pants were black, & my friend said she thought they
were brown.  oh well...i suppose it doesnõt much matter.  a rolled up her
sleeves too, & you could see her old tattoo.  and her new one was peeking
out of her shirt a little too.

<< and emily had that rust-toned flowered shirt that kind of looks like
photographs (i know...bad description) and jeans i think. >>

e wasnõt wearing jeans...i think they were black pants too.  maybe
everything just looked black from where i was though!

<<when i first saw amy i could have sworn she had cut her hair, and come
to think of it, emily's looked a little flippy on the sides like maybe
she took an inch or two off of it as well.  >>

i think they all got hair cuts!  aõs was definitely shorter than the last
time i saw them (delaware), & even jerry & sara looked like they got
theirs cut!

mark wrote:
> 2 what was the cover amy and emily did after scooter boys i didnt
> recognize the song was this a new one or a neil young song it was hard
> rocking (if it was one of theirs after scooter then go to the nxt one<g<>(
and then marivel responded:
<<umm...cover after scooter boys???  what cover?  do you mean the soc?
cause the only thing after scooter boys was leeds and that was not both
of the girls and it was most definately not a cover, so i guess that's
not what you're talking about.>>

i agree w/ marivel.  there was no new song or cover after sb...just a
long soc.

so i guess that these are all of my fun & exciting comments from last
night.  it was a great show, but for some reason now, iõm not as
enthusiastic as i usually am.  it was really cool to hear some songs i
hadnõt heard yet this tour like ia, dgtgag, & hkf.  and overall, i had a
great time! :)

andi

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 15:50:21 pst
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ok, the suit's on, zipped up, and secure.  here goes:
>.....once they were just a band called indigo girls.

alright, i'll bite.  what are they now???
peace (please!) nic

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subject:      ann arbor correction...

alright, i've been informed that the line that will be forever running through
my head with a and e on backing vocals and sonia on lead is as follows:

"i'll stay awake i'll stay awake..even though my love life is fast asleep"

for those of you who know df and had no clue what i was going on about, now you
know.  sorry for hearing wrong.  i guess it was wishful thinking on my part.  i
already "stay awake" entirely too much (as you all can see by the time on my
post last night).  what i really need is to "sail away" from this whole grad
school thing, but that's no excuse for misquoting sooooo there you go!

marivel

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"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...beautiful...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah."
"does that sound a little muddy to you?"

         --immortal words from someone we all know and love...

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subject:      ig in rolling stone # 774

reprinted w/o permission, hope this hasn't been posted already, if it has,
don't flame me, i musta missed it.

indigo girls

strumming a guitar to protest the dangers of nuclear waste may sound like a
distant echo from the '70s no nukes movement, but the indigo girls are trying
to resurrect that call to arms.  "it's like piling sandbags against the
waves," says emily saliers, who, along with partner amy ray, has for years
been marrying folk-pop music with social and political issues such as gay
rights, domestic abuse and gun control.  "it's forever a truggle, but i'm
hopeful."
<insert picture in red-and-blue tones of a&e onstage, the pic of guy from the
cover of honor1 is the stage backdrop, caption reads "no nukes: ray (left)
and saliers".>
  the duo's recently completed honor the earth tour was dedicated to raising
awareness of, and objections to, the nuclear waste policy act of 1997.  the
bill would one day allow 85,000 metric tons of high-level nuclear waste to be
transported across the country and stored near yucca mountain, in nevada.
   the yucca mountain facility - which encompasses an eight-lane,
25-mile-long tunnel and whose $12 billion construction is so far behind
schedule that the structure would not even be ready to receive waste for
almost 20 years - sits on land that is sacred to the shoshone tribe.
moreover, scientists have yet to determine whether the site would be safe.
although president clinton has promised to veto the bill, the act's
congressional supporters will most likely attempt to override the veto.
  during the tour, the indigo girls raised $300,000 for american indian
environmental groups and received more than 1 million hits on their web site
(www.honorearth.com).
   for saliers and ray, the plight of american indians is more than a
political issue.  "they take into account how their actions today are going
to affect the next seven generations," says saliers.  "that's a powerful way
of life, and i draw from that spiritually and personally."
   "the indigo girls are doing the right thing," says american indian
activist winona laduke.  "they're using their interest to help communities
that need support, and it makes a difference."
           ---------eric boehlert

peace, harmony, and indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  ~novitiate of suzanneglassism
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subject:      disappear fear

for those of you who do not own any disappear fear...go out right now and do
so...also look for sonia's new solo release supposedly due out in january...

and if you're truly interested in new music in the same vein as a&e check out
catie curtis...she has a new one..it's self titled and the best thing i have
heard since living in clip and shaming of the sun... :)

ok enough of my random ramblings

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i am here to extol the virtues of the wonderful pooh.
she is to be revered.  or something.
and she knows why.
thanks, pooh.
nic

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subject:      sara lee

have i failed to mention how much i truly love sara lee? ok now i have

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those were members of adapt, one of the bad assed disability rights groups
fighting for basic rights, like affordable community based care - it is
soooo cool sonia from df was there, i know quite a few of the adapt people
on a first name basis, man, this is awesome
mike r.
*skipping the opener for p. larkin and chillin in the new free cybercafe on
campus, and swearing at my computer cus i cant get linux installed*

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subject:      nigc- melissa ferrick

does anyone know of a melissa ferrick mailing list.. if so ..
email me privately.. thanks..

tune

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hi folks,

could we please try to cut down on the amount of nigc
posted to the list?  bandwidthbandwidthbandwidth...

thanks,
sherlyn

ps - just a reminder that you should all have a look at
the faqs if you haven't done so already.  the address
is below...
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yeah, i was out here listening, oh yeah i was out here listening;
oh yeah i am out here listening all the time."    - dar williams

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is there anyone out there who is planning on going to the lousville, ky
show on 12/2, or who has info about the show?  i hadn't paid much attention
to prior posts about that show because i didn't think i would be going.
but, now there is a chance i may be going (if the show hasn't already
sold out).  the ig hotline recording says the show is at the palace
theatre, but i noticed that there is a show the night before in columbus
also at a palace theatre - i wonder if this is just a coincidence, or
a mistake?  anyway, i would be most grateful if some kind soul could give
me ticket and venue info.

peace and thanks!

joan :-d

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 19:12:20 pst
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subject:      re: all hail the mighty pooh
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nic wrote:
==========
i am here to extol the virtues of the wonderful pooh.
she is to be revered.  or something.
and she knows why.
thanks, pooh.
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okay, i guess we all have our different reasons.

all (okay, maybe not all, but definitely some, at minimum - a few) hail
the wonderful pooh.

[my reason - i had a very bad pms-y don't even want to listen to ig kind
of day & pooh made me feel better.]

thanks pooh.

:o)
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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 19:26:20 pst
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hey y'all-

tomorrow i'll be signing off the list for 2 whole weeks.

i'll check my hotmail addy a couple times a week - whenever i can get
internet access (plus i *should* be able to access my mindspring account
too).

the good news is i'm gonna see ig in mpls, mn on wed <yea>  :o)
(the bad news is i won't be able to see ig here in atlanta) <boo>  :-(

hope y'all have a very happy ig-loving thanksgiving!

:o)
peace...

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 22:01:43 -0500
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subject:      tickets to sunday chicago show
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i am disappointed to say that i have at least 2 and probably 4 tickets to
sunday's show at the rosemont theatre.  they are main floor.  i only want to
money we spent and i would like to fans to use them.  call burt at 847-332-1322

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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 23:48:30 -0500
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subject:      oops....nigc

this morning i accidently signed on and sent mail
with my housemates account.  please don't send
ig related messages or replies to egohound.
you can send them to me instead.

sorry about the mix-up.

-deb

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are there any sights besides the olga and the
www.teleport.com/~skibum/guitar.shtml that have guitar tabs of the girls new
album.  and are there any sights for banjo music.  (just bought a banjo.
all i can do is play it with the mind set of a guitar and imporvise, but i'd
like to actually know stuff besides the c chord and stuff.)  thanks in
advance.
                                                  -kate

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around myself- in every moment and piece of matter.
everything is animate."   a. ray

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 00:46:05 +0000
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alright y'all, dayton rocked the house.  fourth row, right in front of amy.
unbelieveable!  a & e both smiled at me!!!  yea!!  i'm soooo excited.
anyway, i got the set list from amy's monitor (for the 2nd night in a row!)
here is is:

tangled up in blue
three hits
galileo
land of canaan
everything in its
shed your skin
get out the map
pushin the needle (with a new twist in the solo) and then a segue into
**redemption song**which is not listed on the set list
"back to the setlist" - amy
ghost
chickenman (ellison rocks the house on harmonica)
it's alright
leeds
scooter boys
least complicated
shame on you
________________________

thin line
? (turned out to be r&j!!!!!  we saw a yell to sulli during thin line
"romeo" so we knew what was coming next but god this song is amazing!)
closer to fine

absolutely a wonderful show.  i'll let all the others post about what else
went on.  by the way, marivel, if you're out there, i was standing right
next to you at ann arbor when e gave you her setlist!!  lucky!!!  hey to
kelley who was cool and hard core enough to take me to 2 shows in 2 days!!

take care y'all!!
~rob
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*  so shed your skin, baby, let it through!" *
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date:         sat, 15 nov 1997 22:22:07 -0000
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hi all,

i found the following on a laser disc schedule it's
for the "watershed" dvd.  for those who don't
know dvd stands for digital video disc it looks
and works just like a compact disc but with pictures.

i'm happy because i have a dvd and it doesn't look
like "watershed" is going to be released on laserdisc
anytime soon and my tape is getting ragged.

bye,  tt

***
indigo girls:watershed:ten years of underground video (dvd/ac3)
evd49195 $24.98 rated: nr
sond:sony dvd 1995 67 min.
upc#074644919592 pop & rock
prebook: 12/02/97 street date: 01/06/98
features: ac3/cc
"watershed" is a road movie, it's a behind-the-scenes documentary, it's
a music video compendium. for the indigo girls fan, it's
a chance to hear and see and feel the whole story of the indigos so far,
as told by amy and emily themselves. in addition to most
of the videos of their biggest hits, there is live concert footage,
early tv appearances, their first album release party (!) and much
more. 10 full-song videos and live concert clips, including "closer to
fine," "galileo," "chickenman" and "least complicated,"
plus portions of many additional songs, some famous, some rare.

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 01:27:32 -0500
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subject:      central missouri show

hey, coming out of lurkerland..any before concert plans or ig signings for
this show in a few weeks? maybe a hint at what there is to eat for dinner in
warrensburg??? please contact me privately. thanks.
duff

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 00:28:45 -0500
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now pooh and dee just you kids relax.  ig will be here within 24 hours and
all will be wonderful.  pooh--thank you for giving me permission to do
anything.  i have decided to stand directly in front of you and scream hey
amy are you a lesbian all night.  that'll be ok right?  hahahaha.  gosh
this is so exciting.  please once again--all going to the sunday evening
show--come to say hi to other list members at my big nigc sign on the main
floor lobby in between the openers and ig.  i wanna see you all there!

more motivation to come--you can meet my significant other who will just
love that i posted this--not!!  oh man i am dead now.

main floor lobby--by the nigc sign--between opener and ig--with the
candlestick--in the conservatory--with colonel mustard.(copyright to
alycia)  ok it's getting late.

the girls are coming to my city finally!!!!!!  look for amusing reviews in
the coming days

flamer

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 04:12:21 -0500
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subject:      dayton!!! 4 words to say...

tangled up in blue!!!
jenni

ps. if anyone booted the show...please email me cause i'd die to have it. :)
thanks! buddy45687@aol.com

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 04:55:12 -0500
reply-to:     marivel danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
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subject:      boot offers...

alright, this is a bit scary, but i'm gonna go ahead and try just because it
doesn't look like i'm going to get the photo thing done before christmas and i
feel bad about that, so i want to offer something to the list.  so i'm going to
put this list of the boots i've taped at the last 6 concerts i've been to since
oct. 25th and offer to make copies of any or all of the following for those
interested.  but of course if the list starts to get huge i might have to
reserve time for another nervous breakdown, so let's say we limit it to the
first 20 people who write me and request boots (this will include those to whom
i've already agreed to make copies (probably about 5 to 7) but you should all
write me again with an official list of everything you want so i don't have to
go back and check every e-mail you ever sent me!).  if i still have people
asking after that then i'll put the offer out again when i'm done with those.
so here's the list...

1.  univeristy of maryland at baltimore (what does the "c" stand for then in
umbc?) 10/25/97; 100 minutes.  this boot is not great quality but i know that
doesn't matter to some of you.  also keep in mind that deb (mindspring) and tori
also have a boot that they are willing to copy sometime in the undisclosed
future, and it has to be way better than mine cause mine has cut outs on at
least 6 songs including the entire end of closer to fine.  if either deb or tori
could post something about when this boot might be available that would be
really really sweet (hint, hint).  there's no rush of course, but it might be
helpful for others to know when that other boot will be available to decide if
they want to wait for better quality or just ask for my crappy one now.

setlist is: galileo/shame on you/tangled up in blue/cut it out/get out the
map/shed your skin/10,000 wars/reunion/least comp./scooter boys/winthrop/romeo
and juliet/power of 2/chickenman/va woolf/can't find my way home (with c.
aiken)/joking/tried to be true/ctf

2.  binghamton, ny; 10/31/97  100 minutes.  this one also has many cuts in it.
i lost half of romeo and juliet on the tape flip and i think something else got
lost before it too.  someone else on the list actually has a much better copy of
this, but if she doesn't plan on opening it up to the list, then i'll certainly
tape my icky version for those of you willing to settle for worst case scenario.

setlist:  mystery/land of canaan/get out the map/shame on you/virginia
woolff/shed your skin (awesome bass solo by sara)/least complicated/don't give
that girl a gun/love will come to you/scooter boys/it's alright/romeo and
juliet/power of two/chickenman/galileo/tangled up in blue/"i am woman"/closer to
fine

3.  utica, ny; 11/1/97  i think 110 but i wouldn't bet my life on it.  this boot
is okay as far as i remember.  average quality (not too much screaming but not
a+ audio on a and e either).  i need somebody to grade these for me.  i have no
concept of the scale!

setlist:  galileo/tried to be true/get out the map/three hits/etitot/soy/least
complicated/dgtgag/mystery/shed your skin/leeds/hey kind friend/scooter
boys/virginia woolf/chickenman/kid fears/bury my heart/ctf

4. geneseo, ny; 11/2/97  120 min.  the only thing tragic about this boot is that
i forgot to turn the damn thing on so i missed all of joking and the very
beginning of it's alright.  sniff, sniff.

setlist:  joking/it's alright/soy/gotm/dgtgag/po2/land of canaan/ghost/sb/least
comp/sys/leeds/cio/down by the river/galileo/tangled.../r and j/bmhwk/ctf

5. geneva, ny; 11/3/97  120 min.  finally a decent boot i think...

setlist:  thin line/mystery/soy/galileo/hand me downs/love's rec/sb/lc/3
hits/gotm/sys/leeds/kid fears/hammer and nail/nueva
senorita(?)/chickenman/ghost/bmhwk/ctf

6.  ann arbor, mi; 11/14/97  120 min.  yay!  no major cuts!  kind of foggy, but
when you adjust the right things on your stereo it actually sounds pretty good!

setlist:  3 hits/ia/soy/gotm/dgtgg/lc/sys/love will come/ttbt/po2/sb/leeds/r and
j/chickenman/galileo/hkf/box of tissues (w/sonia)/ctf

7.  sonia (of disappear fear) ann arbor, mi 11/14/97  roughly 30 minutes.

alright, it's me again.  i'd prefer to do blanks and sases for these just cause
it seems easiest and i've already got a couple of trades in the works which will
keep my boot fix satisfied for a while.  so let me know if you're dying for
something, and remember even if you already e-mailed me once about a particular
boot, do it again to remind me and assure that i get my mailing info out to you
before i go totally insane!  thanks...

marivel

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"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...beautiful...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah."
"does that sound a little muddy to you?"

         --immortal words from someone we all know and love...

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 05:37:32 -0500
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from:         shelley miller <shel1018@aol.com>
subject:      pbs on tour show

howdy!

just caught the girls' on tour apperance.  i'd love to say that i stayed up
all night, perched next to the tv just to make sure i didn't miss it, but in
truth, forgot entirely that it was on, watched a movie, and pbs just happened
to be what it flipped to when it was rewinding (so if someone can fill me in
on the first five minutes, they'll have my undying gratitude).

amy close-ups during shame on you...how can i put this?  i think my mother
being in the same room as me is probably the only thing that saved the tv
from much incriminating lip-markage.  as it was, i was grinning ridiculously
by the time she got to the "beautiful ladies part"...much jealousy of all of
you in the east and southeast who get to see them perform more than once or
twice every tour.

get out the map--pretty standard ig song.  it seems the powers that be really
focussed on the girls' feel-good songs (i think the one i missed was galileo,
and the closer was closer to fine).  i'm all for happy, but am also bummed
that none of their harder material got included--what i wouldn't give for a
video of cut it out or touch me fall.

closer to fine--spent the first two or three minutes of the song plotting
revenge against the camera-person for managing to cut michelle (my goddess)
malone out of the video no matter what angle it was being shot from (did
anyone else notice that?).  but then all was forgiven when they got at least
one good closeup of her.  also worth noting--jerry marotta in a skirt.

other artists featured were jann arden, poe, cowboy junkies and lush.  big
fun.  and now its time to take my giddiness off to bed.

peace,
shelley

"i feel louder about everything now.  it's more than a coming-out experience
for me.  i never want to be quiet again - or subtle."
                                                         --amy ray

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 08:35:07 -0500
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subject:      boot of fredricksburg, va

i've been looking all over for a boot of the oct 21st show at mary washington
college in fredricksburg,va...

does anybody have one or know somebody who does?

i'm desperate for it because my friend was on the committee that sponsered
their peformance and she spent all day with them driving them around, getting
them foood and listening to them discuss chang and democracy...to make a long
story short...they dedicated a song to her and it would be really cool if i
could lay my hands on a copy for her...

thanks

heather


"taken out of context i must seem so strange"  ani

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 07:54:45 -0800
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subject:      chicago tonight id..
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ok..for those of y'all goin tonight..(to the indigo-girls show,,,there ,
now this post officialy has ig content, hense no nigc disclaimer!!)
i will be wearing...
usually doc's but because of the f**king snow i'll resort to insulated
construction boots(blue light special ya know)
red and black flannel jacket
jeans ( black or blue...decisions  decisions decisions)
sum kinda shirt ( don't want to expose my tatoo like that slutty amyray
does,,at least not until i know ya better..talk to me..we'll negotiate
;)
if its snowing..my twincitieschicago aids ride cap
pretty flashy huh?
now..when you gaze yer eyeballs upon me..remember....seated and quiet
seated and quiet ( except for that obnoxious chiquita bratita)
ms. smartalec reiser says you'll never be able to pull it off..
what does she know, shes a cheeseshead( calm down susie..its a
description, not a menu..well at least i don't think so..who knows what
y'all do...heh heh heh)
in about 20 mins i am leaving for church to beg the powers that be to
help you all behave and hopefully repent..( actually its a lie..its this
new "liberal" chuch my bud g..found ..so we're goin to check out the
action..at church...i am desperate these days!!)
drive carefully,,remeber the first parking spot is mine...
later kiddies
woo hoo

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 09:21:26 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls rule <klrosenb@wittenberg.edu>
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i just got my ticket for the columbus, ohio show.  i am in row d.  does
anyone know the layout of the palace theatre and know where row d is?
thanks a lot!
:-) karen
ps- dayton rocked!  i would do a long post, but i am very tired.  but my
seats were great and i just wanted to thank jill again!  :-)

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 11:06:51 -0500
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from:         michelle reeves <mreeves74@aol.com>
subject:      re: pbs would anyone mind making a copy?

i'd really love to get a copy of this for my g/f. is there anyone who
recorded the whole thing, that i could send a tape to to copy it for me?
please email me if you wouldn't mind doing that.

thanks.

michelle

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anyone going to the show tonight...


i know that the theater is near ohare, but im not quite sure where...we're driving from the northern suburbs and i would really hate to be driving around all night trying to find the place...so, if anyone could email me as to where i am actually going, i'd greatly appreciate it...


tonight will be the breaking in of an indigo virgin...one who really hopes that amy doesn't do dgtgag cuz her girlfriend just kicked her to the curb and she'll be really sad...(my pity cry, i love to talk about myself in the third person)...


anyway...im a shy girl, so although i'd love to meet y'all, i'll probably be the lil blond 20 year old lookin kid making laps around the sign and trying to be "as cool as i am"...and not look like a lost two year old (im sure that's what i'll look like, actually)


so...see everybody tonight...it's time to hit the books (i love this place) *sarcasm*


peace

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subject:      nigc: sad etheridge story

okay, here's my problem, my gf of 4 years is moving with her family to boston
<we live in kansas> and i'm unable to go with her because of school. okay so
where does this list come in?? a month ago i asked for anyone that had
melissa etheridge stuff, they could help me...one person offered me two
videos and two tapes with a list to pick from. i don't know how but i lost
all that information. so now i'm in a crunch to either find her or someone
else who can help me get some audio and/or video, before december...thanks.
duff

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subject:      dayton

hey y'all--
   i just have to say that the dayton concert last night was the best ig
concert i have ever seen!! (ok, so i've only seen three, but still!!)  the
crowd was awesome and amy and em were on on on!!!  please tell me that
someone booted the show!!!!!
eagerly waiting for dar on wednesday,
lauren

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subject:      jcs - i guess sigc
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        so i went to check my mail on friday, and i had a *package* and
it was from daemon, and it was my video and cds, which i only ordered
last week!  my friends and i held a small viewing, consisting of three
ig fans and three jcs fans. everybody loved this version, but i've been
told to ask the following questions:
        1)does anybody have any insight onto some of the costume
choices/approaches to characters in jesus christ superstar: a
resurrection? some of them seem to have significance, like i understand
the reasoning behind herod the "prisoner king" i guess, but others
seemed  very random, like they were basing their interpretations on the
costumes that they had raided from somebody's theater wardrobe. not in a
bad way - they were funny- i was just curious.
        2)also, a theater-tech friend asked me if anybody knows other
things that the  director has done?

sarah
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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 15:38:13 -0500
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from:         marivel danielson <marivel@m.imap.itd.umich.edu>
subject:      re: boot offerings...

okay y'all!  i'm set with my 20+ people.  if you wrote me before about 3:30pm
sunday you got in.  and maybe what would be really great is if some of these 20
can offer to make copies of their copies for others once they get them.  and it
seems like most people are looking for ann arbor, geneva and utica, but some of
you didn't specify.  does that mean you want all six?  do you realize that some
of these are really crappy and horribly embarrassing quality?  especially if you
weren't even at the show and can't get a thrill simply out of the knowledge that
you were indeed one of the screamers on the recording?  but okay.  if that's the
case and you will derive pleasure from listening to my booting sins, then so be
it.  so be it.  so be it.  what does amy say after this part???  okay...i'll
respond to all of you who are in by tonight i hope and let you know where to
send your stuff.  oh by the way, if you already asked me to make a boot for you
(like days or weeks ago) and haven't yet been able to e-mail me in response to
my boot list post yesterday don't freak out, cause i'll honor all of those
request as well (but please be honest about it, cause if ya don't look familiar
i will look you up!) so e-mail me and remind me what we agreed upon.  okay
that's it.  happy sunday to all (*except* those of you who don't plan on posting
more details about dayton!!!)...

marivel

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date:         sun, 5 oct 1997 15:49:54 -0400
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subject:      nigc--jen and jasmine

sorry for the nigc--my computer is having a feast on emails!! it just
won't stop eating them!!!! and becuase of that, jen and jasmine, i need
you to please send me your emails again, because they're gone now.
(grrrrrrr!!! stupid computers!!!)

thanks!
kristina :o)

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 16:16:26 est
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subject:      more dayton

hi.  i've been happily lurking for a great while until now, but i was at
dayton last night (pretty far up, but oh well) and have some
questions....
before them, i want make sure y'all know that i loved the show and it was
beautiful and tangled up in blue, i almost cried, and ghost i did cry
having never heard it live.
anyway, what was amy saying in the middle of chickenman over and over? we
are.....something....i promised myself i'd remember but you know how it
is at incredible shows like that.
my second question is:  are there any purists such as myself who were
kinda irritated by all the "singers" during, like, all the songs?  i know
during lc and galileo, etc, it is expected and the girls like it.  but
there were some times i could barely hear amy or emily for all the
singing, good and bad.
granted, i was sitting about as far away as you could get in that teeny
place (which was great!).   just wondering......
back to my papers and stuff!
---beth
ps. did anyone find out what the fish and snowflake shirt means? i mean,
i bought one anyway :)  but it'd be nice to know.   thank ya!
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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 16:20:22 -0500
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from:         elizabeth skipper <skippeec@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu>
subject:      my dayton story (thank god for the igc)
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hey all,
here, in its entirety, is my dayton story:

    i left to pick up my friend at wittenberg (in springfield, about 40
minutes east of dayton) in plenty of time to arrive at the 5:30 time we had
agreed upon.  i suppose i should have taken it as a bad sign that as soon as
i turned on the engine in the car, snow started falling horizontally
(whatever happened to good old fashioned gravity?) in white sheets so that
all but five feet in front of me was invisible, but i was too excited to see
the girls to notice.  so i left my dorm, stopped at the atm, and then went
to wal-mart to buy poster board and markers (for signs) and ear plugs (to
make my mother happy - ack! guilt!).  i left wal-mart and started on my way
through the corn fields surrounding miami (the university that is, i did not
drive to ohio from florida and there are not corn fields in our peninsula to
the south - i hope).  the scenery was beautiful with snow falling and
sticking to the trees, although during the flat parts, i did feel like i
belonged in the opening scenes of _fargo_.  about a half hour away from
school, as i was thinking that i had to remind my friend to pay me for her
ticket, i realized that i am a dumb-ass and had forgotten the tickets.  so i
turned around and drove back the way i had come, ran up to my room, grabbed
the tickets, and left again.  on my way back i spoke to that higher power
that i could never really be sure was there and asked her/it/him to watch
over my trip because i obviously wasn't doing a very good job myself.
    now it was 5 pm, and i was going to be late.  i drove until 5:45, when i
realized i should call my friend so she wouldn't worry, so i did.  i kept
driving, took the exit from the main highway to the state route i needed,
and it was soon after that it happened.
    i was only going about 40 or 45 because when i had passed someone a few
minutes earlier, i slid a little.  so i wasn't going fast.  i saw flashing
lights and cop cars up to the right, off the road, so i braked because i
didn't know exactly where they were or what they were doing there.  big
mistake.  i lost steering and started fishtailing.  i pumped the brakes and
tried to correct the steering.  it didn't work and i spun, clockwise towards
the railing on the right.  i turned the wheel as hard as i could to avoid
the railing, closed my eyes and waited for the impact.  when i stopped
spinning, i was in the right lane, facing forward, and i hadn't hit a thing.
there were no cars around.  it was at that point my really wavering faith in
something turned into very solid.
    i finally made it to springfield, picked up my friend, and we were on
our way to dayton.  we actually didn't get lost on the way and made it to
the arena.  we decided to go find food before we went in.  we found
mcdonald's and were in the drive-thru lane when my friend said, "where are
the tickets?"  they weren't in the envelope that i had grabbed in my rush to
leave for the second time.  but i was pretty sure that they had been in
there.  we finally found them, fallen down between the seats.  heart attack
number two was over.  we got to the window to get our food.  i took the bag,
gave the woman my twenty, took the drinks, and left.  hmm...you may wonder,
either you were really hungry or you forgot something, like your change!  of
course i didn't realize that until we were already in the dayton parking
lot, trying to find the money to pay for parking.  couldn't find it,
realized what happened, and had to pay with the change in the change holder.
i figured it wasn't worth it to go back and get it, so i let the woman keep
it.  we scarfed down our food.  i spilled tartar sauce on my emory shirt
(yes, i actually went there for a year, so i didn't just buy it because i'm
obsessed) and we went in.
    were it not for our front row seats, the night would have been one of
the worst nights of my life.  but seeing amy and emily so close up made it
all okay.  i'm sure i caught emily's eye a few times and i definitely got
sara lee to smile at me.  i was to the emily side of the people who held up
the "nobody does it like sara lee" signs, if you're on the list.  i was too
in awe to hold up (or even make) my own signs, so i lived vicariously
through them.  the whole concert was awesome, but you've all already heard
about that.  i lost my hearing and my voice, but it was so worth it.  btw,
stephanie, happy birthday - i heard amy say that to you.  did that small
girl child who got to stand almost on the stage belong to anyone here?
    okay, i know this post is ridiculously long, but this is the best story
i've had to tell in a while, so i had to share it with y'all.  if you made
it to the end, thanks for listening.

glad to be alive,
elizabeth


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i'm pulled down by the undertow
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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 16:24:42 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls rule <klrosenb@wittenberg.edu>
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hey!  did anyone happen to boot that amazing show in dayton last night?
if so, please please please e-mail me!  i'd love to have a copy and i'd be
eternally grateful!
:-) karen

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 16:16:59 -0500
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from:         "emily a. izenstein" <emaizen@aol.com>
subject:      i've missed everyone...

hey y'all-
so i've missed you guys so much.  and yes, i know it's been my fault not
being around the list much this past month or so but i recently moved and was
very caught up in settling in. so i wanted to say hi to all those i've missed
and btw- everyone who i owe boots to,. they're coming!!!!  i swear!!!!  this
week,k i promise.... (with those extras 'cause they'er so late....)
i missed you guys!

btw- any info. on the boston show would be great!
in faith-
emily

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well, i made it back home and am now buried in homework--but it was
awfully nice to met all the listees (however briefly) yesterday, and
after-concert glow should get me to thanksgiving break.  :)
now to justify the expense of the columbus show...

anna m.

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        -ar
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docile, though not so fine a figure." -lady chettam, on celia vs.dorothea

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 17:53:06 -0500
reply-to:     robert arkin <rdarkin@mindspring.com>
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i'm trying to memorize a monologue for an audition and i'm having the
hardest time.  the auditions on thursday.  if anyone has any memorizing
tips for me i really need them. the monologue is from  "even cowgirls get
the blues" (a great book) by tom robbins!
                                        chels
oh yeah, thanks for the wonderful quotes! you guys can keep sending them.
my project is no where near completion

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hey y'all-

i'm risking totally crashing my computer trying to temp set nomail so i
also want to let folks know i'll be off the list for 2 whole weeks -
back on the first week of dec .(i hope - after i reload & load in lots
of new stuff so my mailer works right!)

but i'll check my <melsouth1@hotmail.com> account when i can find
internet access.

the good news is i'll be seeing ig in mpls,mn on wed <yea>  :o)

[the bad news is i won't be able to see ig here in atlanta <boo>  :-( ]

i hope y'all have a happy ig-loving thanksgiving (well, those of you in
the states, anyway) !!

:o)
peace...
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            upon them, and recited in simple verse."
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subject:      7th row chicago ticket for tonight!!!! email now

hi!
well, it seems that the person that i was going to the ig show with tonight
..sunday the 16th is unable to go...
it is now 5pm...call me within an hour and a half if you are in the chicago
area and want to go to the indigo girls show at the rosemont theatre tonight!

it starts at 8pm!  first person gets it...i'll only charge what i paid for
it...!
email me!  i will check the email every 15 minutes.
leave your phone # and i will call you and we can discuss where to meet.
take care
rob

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subject:      nevermind!

sorry, she just called me..and that ticket offer is null and void.
thanks anyway!
i'll tell you how the show goes!
rob

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subject:      dayton!(long)

hello list,
   stephanie from uva here, using her aol address because she's at home and
just woke up from a delicious nap in her comfortable home bed and can smell
her mother's wonderful home cooking...but back to the harsh reality of
organic chemistry and papers on the importance of the court in 1783 france
tomorrow :( . since i'm home, i don't get my list mail and don't know what
has been posted about this show, so i'm just going to say whatever i want :-)
first of all, what a great list meet.  it was awesome to meet all of you
especially darling jill to whom i owe my ticket, the fact that i didn't get
kicked out, the sound check, and emily's birthday wish...and thank you so
much lisa for the cloth without which emily would not have said "happy
birthday, stephanie!" and thank you all for a wonderful time.  next, yes,
jill and i did catch the tail end of the sound check.  we sneaked in a door
that said "employees only" and heard them playing a song with the tantrums,
and then heard emily playing "river", "winthrop", and "leeds" on the piano.
then we talked to sulli, who is so sweet and so nice and deserves a large
gift of some kind for throwing me five picks after the show, none of which i
got because i'm retarded and didn't even realize she was throwing them to me
until she pointed at me and said, "i just threw you five picks. look on the
floor".  too late :( .  but we asked her when she's going to start her own
band and she said when she has time.  and then we went over to dave ellison,
the tour manager (huge mistake), and said, "do you think there's any chance
amy and emily would take a picture?" and he said, "no, they just went back to
eat dinner. and i don't even know who you are" (in a very rude voice) and we
said, "um, we're just fans" and he said "how did you get in here?  you're not
allowed to be here" and then he called a security guard over and we just
threw up our hands and walked away.  anybody want to start a "i really really
dislike dave ellison even if he is from ohio and a good harmonica player"
e-mail list? i'll be the charter member.  and then we went back to the hotel
to join the list meet and made some signs and hung out.  and then time for
the show! danielle howle was awesome.  she's so cute, and what a voice!  and
then jill and i stood in the front row on amy's side, and the show was, of
course, incredible.  lots of nice amy rear-end views.  and (shameless self
promotion) we held up a sign that said "wish stephanie a happy 19th" and
emily saw it and said "happy birthday, stephanie!" and that's why i will do
anything, i mean anything, for a bootleg of this show.  if anybody has one or
knows of someone who does, i beg of you, please tell me about it.  thank you.
i'm sure somebody else is posting a set list, but i was happy about the
"tangled up in blue" opener and then "it's alright", which i've only heard
live once.  and "thin line", which was great, and "romeo and juliet", which
made me cry because amy was so beautifully emotional, as was jill...amy
spilled her coke, then got another one, and spilled that one too.  it was
kind of funny.  what else...for "ctf",  i don't think danielle knew the third
verse, so they tried to get jerry to sing it, but he wouldn't, so emily just
sang it then amy said "let them sing it", and so the audience sang it.  i
know a few girls, one of whom had a sign that said "need an extra guitarist
for closer to fine?", in the front row who would have happily sung the third
verse.  hmmm, who would that be?  and then we waited around forever in
freezing cold weather outside.  sara signed autographs but noone else came
out, b/c the bus was parked up near the stage door. the bus finally left, and
we could see emily through the front as it was backing up, but the
ever-so-charming dave ellison pulled the curtain so we could no longer see
her.  i wish every band could have a tour manager like that.  i think that's
all, this post is long enough already, but thank you again to everyone who
made my flight from (warm) virginia to (really really cold) cincinnati very
much worth it.  list meets and indigo girls concerts restore my faith in
humanity...wow, age 19 and already jaded :) . if you want to reply to this,
reply to "indigo@virginia.edu", not this address please.
                                 ig love to all,
                                 stephanie

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if anyone wants tickets for the show in warrensburg or knows someone who
might buy them, email me asap.  something came up and i won't be able to go,
oh- i have two tickets bythe way:)  -anna b.

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 20:16:15 -0400
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> ps. did anyone find out what the fish and snowflake shirt means? i mean,
> i bought one anyway :)  but it'd be nice to know.   thank ya!

ask lisa s. and don richard's granddaughter deidre to explain it to ya...
jill

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okay, i won't be redundant about dayton. yes, it was definitely more than
worth the 8.5 hour drive through the snow and sleet. for whatever reason, amy
and emily seemed to be in the best moods (amy especially) and it really came
across through the whole show, making it one of the best i've ever seen. and
yes, the waiting outside in the 28 degree weather was pretty dissapointing,
but it still couldn't kill my ig buzz. thanks to kirby for the great extra
ticket; i didn't even need my glasses! =)

eagerly awaiting her next show,
abby

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just adding to stephanie's post...
> first of all, what a great list meet.  it was awesome to meet all of you
yes, absolutely!.. even tho' i *was* rather out of it, to say the least.
> especially darling jill
again, i say, if i'm so cute, then why am i single?!
> to whom i owe my ticket, the fact that i didn't get
> kicked out, the sound check, and emily's birthday wish
(i sorta snuck her into my first-row section.  all fine and good while
everyone was standing up.  but you know how some concerts go-- standup,
sit down, regularly?  this was one of em.  so much so that the security
guard barked for us to "find our seats quick" or else.  so stephanie's
thinking she's gotta go back to her seat.  heh heh, meanwhile, the
security guard was looking away, so i swiped his chair and added it to the
end of our row.  lol!  so we had enough seats in our row, after all...;)
the guard looks around, says to himself, "where the...?" and then spots
me, bends down, and goes, "did you take my chair?"  i opened my eyes all
wide and innocent-like and go, "uhhh,...but this *is* my seat, see?"  and
showed him my ticket.  he knew i was lying, but he just humored me and let
me sit there.  (that was cause i'd been flirting with him during danielle
howle's set, trying to butter him up so he wouldn't take my camera away).
(added sideline:  when i put the chair on the end, it was next to
michelle's seat.  she got up and sat in the 8th row with her friends).

> next, yes,
> jill and i did catch the tail end of the sound check.
and we would've caught the whole thing, had i been able to see five feet
in front of my car on the highway.  and this wasn't just snow, it was this
horrible icy grainy sleety snow that caked on my headlights and
wiperblades so that twice i had to pull over onto the shoulder and clean
it off.  so anyways, that plus the fact that 2 hours of sleep do not a
good driver make= we heard about 10 mins. of sound check.  but i got to
see emily in the cutest sweatpants and sweatshirt.  okay, so maybe it was
just a regular old sweatsuit, but it looked so gosh darn cute on her...
> we sneaked in a door that said "employees only"
steph, did you know that the minute we walked in, the guy who'd been
guarding the doors had *just* walked away, and had his back to us?!  talk
about close.
> and heard them playing a song with the tantrums,
> and then heard emily playing "river", "winthrop", and "leeds" on the piano.
> and then we went over to dave ellison,
> the tour manager (huge mistake), and said, "do you think there's any chance
> amy and emily would take a picture?" and he said, "no, they just went back to
> eat dinner. and i don't even know who you are" (in a very rude voice)
to which i countered very sarcastically, "yeah, she's *real* dangerous,
obviously."
> and we
> said, "um, we're just fans" and he said "how did you get in here?  you're not
> allowed to be here" and then he called a security guard over and we just
> threw up our hands and walked away.  anybody want to start a "i really really
> dislike dave ellison even if he is from ohio and a good harmonica player"
> e-mail list? i'll be the charter member.
the guy was a real weenie, folks.  had to be there to get the full effect
of his pomposity.
> made some signs
...and then some...  btw, i am the crayola marker queen.  self-proclaimed.
> danielle howle was awesome.  she's so cute, and what a voice!
wow, yes, very much so.  although her stage banter left me wondering
exactly *what* she'd been smoking prior to going on...she was saying about
how she wished she had a tail, cause then she could just whip it up in the
air and attach it to a rafter or roof beam and swing to the front of any
long line.  and then she used the mic cord as a tail.  she also asked the
crowd, "does it look like we haven't bathed recently?  cause we *have*!"
nutty.  but her music is amazing and cute and everyone must run out and
buy her cds from the daemon catalog cause she is hardly breaking even and
had to stay at a motel six or some similarly stellar place in town.  i
felt really bad that i had better lodgings than the act.
>  lots of nice amy rear-end views.
aaaaahhh-ooooo-ooo-ooo-ooo!  dang!  hot damn! (i'm tryin' to swear like a
southerner, hee).  wow wow wow, that woman has got a butt on her....  mmmm
mmm.  like i said to my friend carol after the ann arbor show, "if i've
ever tried to convince myself that i'm straight, smack me, cause amy just
brings out things in me....  no use denying it."
> we held up a sign that said "wish stephanie a happy 19th" and
> emily saw it and said "happy birthday, stephanie!"
she saw it and got amy's attention and pointed the sign out to her, this
big smile on her face, and yelled it out, genuinely happily.

> i will do
> anything, i mean anything, for a bootleg of this show.  if anybody has one or
> knows of someone who does, i beg of you, please tell me about it.  thank you.
i second the motion.
> "romeo and juliet", which
> made me cry because amy was so beautifully emotional, as was jill
yeah, i wussed out.  not because of the show, though...  more to follow...
...amy spilled her coke, then got another one, and spilled that one too.
it was kind of funny.
yeah, she's getting all worked up over r&j, and we're laughing about the
fizz drizzling slowly down the big black amp thingy.  i was gonna ask the
tech for that pop can after the show, but thought better of it and didn't.
that woulda been *too* weird.  what would i have done with it?  (besides
put my lips on the very same spot where hers touched... gee, maybe i
shoulda asked for that can...)
> wow, age 19 and already jaded :)
gee, that's late.  i hit that cynicism thing when i was probably 5.  boy.
okay, i'll shut up for a minute.
jill

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 21:02:57 -0500
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hey ya'll...
just a quick question before i return to lurkdom. all this excitement from
the dayton show has made me want to post and post and post! ok...so here's
the question...for anyone that was at the dayton show....was that the "list
shirt" that was given to amy onstage?? i saw all of ya'll down on the main
floor...and i was drooling over your awesome seats. ok...enough babbling
already...hope everyone in chicago has a great time!

peace and indigo happiness,
jenni
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if you  missed it vh 1 had one of their behind the music specials on about
lilith...watch out for the rerun of it...

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>for anyone that was at the dayton show....was that the "list shirt" that
was >given to amy onstage??

sorry - it was a ud shirt, which they both agreed was a "cute shirt."  it
was.

btw, i wanted to mention to jill that i thought of you when i heard "that"
line in least complicated.  your post about that really wrenched my heart.
okay, after my last book-long post, i'll shut up for a while.

elizabeth

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on sun, 16 nov 1997, :) thanks! wrote:

> the question...for anyone that was at the dayton show....was that the "list
> shirt" that was given to amy onstage?? i saw all of ya'll down on the main
> floor...and i was drooling over your awesome seats. ok...enough babbling
> already...hope everyone in chicago has a great time!
no, that was a ud shirt that said "the ghetto" or something like that on
it(-- explanation:  the ghetto is the neighborhood of student houses,
reallycrazy, row after row of no one over age 22.)

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if you aren't catching the vh1 show on lilith, shame on you!!!!!  it has
some excellent igc as well as some other great artists.  make sure you
catch it on rerun if it's the last thing you do!!!!

ok?
~rob
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rob hite wrote:
>if you aren't catching the vh1 show on lilith, shame on you!!!!!  it has
>some excellent igc as well as some other great artists.  make sure you
>catch it on rerun if it's the last thing you do!!!!

does anyone with access to a tv guide (i just love college) know when this
will be rerun?  i checked the tv guide web site and they apparently don't
know that vh1 exists.  any other suggestions?  thanks

elizabeth


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i help you become that."
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i'm pulled down by the undertow
i never thought i could feel so low
oh darkness i feel like letting go"
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greetings to all in the land of indigo!

was that vh-1 special awesome or what?

were they featuring the indigo girls or sarah m?
i couldn't tell at times, not that i'm complaining.

one of the coolest things was that my gf is in
one of the clips where amy and emily are signing
autographs at the table, she's behind them in her
lift shirt.  unfortunately, i was the person right in
front of the 'featured fans', and missed my moment
of fame.  (i'm just a little bitter :)  )

anyway, on another note, if anyone who taped the
pbs on tour special would like to trade video boots
of this vh1 show, or some other ig video boots i have
let me know.

take care and peace!

-deb

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in a message dated 11/16/97 9:44:22 pm, poprckgrrl@aol.com wrote:

>if you  missed it vh 1 had one of their behind the music specials on about
>lilith...watch out for the rerun of it...

i'm so glad i caught this!  a&e were featured all through it right to the
end.  it seems like they get a lot of the credit for warming up lilith fair
and bringing people together.  they showed a bunch of backstage jam sessions
and stage footage of the girls playing with most of the other artists.  and
the interviews with the girls were great -- you just want to scoop them up
and take them home with you, they're such cool people!  watching this show
really makes me feel like a schmuck for having to miss the boston concert on
12/14 because i live in new hampshire, have two small children, and can't get
a babysitter who could stay til 1 am when we'd get home (wah!).  i am just
not roadtrip ready like the rest of y'all and it stinks!  i'm jealous of all
you lucky baigls who'll be seeing a&e *one more time* next month ... acoustic
at the orpheum will be awesome!

psyched for lilith '98,

heidi

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howdy,
did anyone from the list run over during ctf and borrow a blue marker to get
sara's autograph with?  i just wondered because that was me (and my friend)
with the marker.  i thought anyone that obsessive :) would have to be on the
list.

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i help you become that."
-goethe

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i'm pulled down by the undertow
i never thought i could feel so low
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elizabeth skipper wrote:

> rob hite wrote:
> >if you aren't catching the vh1 show on lilith, shame on you!!!!!  it has
> >some excellent igc as well as some other great artists.  make sure you
> >catch it on rerun if it's the last thing you do!!!!
>
> does anyone with access to a tv guide (i just love college) know when this
> will be rerun?  i checked the tv guide web site and they apparently don't
> know that vh1 exists.  any other suggestions?  thanks
>
> elizabeth

i, too, have no access to a tv guide and can never find any listings on the
web.  if anyone knows if this will be on again, please, please, please tell
me....

sharon

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the final chapter.
(my apologies to digest people who have to scroll thru my blubbering.  but
since so many people wrote to me asking how "things" were going, i thought
i'd tell y'all.   get it all out once and for all.  humor me, i'm trying
to be a writer, i need the practice).
yes, so as y'all are aware of, i had the seat next to my ex g/f, for whom
i am still pining for, at the dayton show.  this is the lovely
(what sarcasm)
little (whatta understatement) story about that...

she wouldn't sit by me.  she had the two other people in our row (it was
one of those angled end rows, so there were only 4 seats in the front) sit
between me and her.
she wouldn't look at me.  if and when i tried to make eye contact, she
looked away.  real fast.
she wouldn't be near my presence.  like i posted before, when i sat down
next to her for a song (leeds?), she got up and moved away afterwards.
here's the heartbreaking stuff...
so we're at the hotel (the listees), making signs.  i wrote on a piece of
posterboard (cause it was too much to put on a sign),
"please help!
i need you to tug some heartstrings in hopes of the slim chance of love's
recovery.
would you please sing romeo and juliet for michelle (the beautiful girl
next to me) and tell her i adore her?
her heart has forgotten; you can make it remember.
thank you, more than you will ever know,
jill"
i gave it to sulli, who read it and said she's put it in amy's dressing
room, so that she'd see it.
concert time came, and i'm sitting there, not technically *by myself* yet
utterly so.  sitting with michelle and michelle's friend and michelle's
friend's girlfriend.  fun fun fun.  really uplifting.  she kept running
through the crowd, talking with every single person she knew there.  i
don't know if it was intentional, but it sure made me feel like an
unimportant little loser, like, hey, why would she even *care* that she's
not talking to me?  she's got *so* many others to occupy herself with.
stephanie and i go to the bathroom, where i run into michelle's friend
shannon.  i ask her what the problem is, why the silent treatment.  she is
not helpful.  tells me to ask her myself.  as if it were that easy.
danielle howle comes on, and she's amazing, but i'm
really bothered and can't fully appreciate her set, which irritates me.
ig come on.  i stand in the front and dance with stephanie, trying to
convince myself that *i'm having a good time*, that *i'm okay*, all the
while there's this gnawing at the back of my mind.  (in vindictive
hindsight, i hope she was jealous that *i* got to dance with a beautiful
blonde with a gleaming silver eyebrow ring ;))(that would be stephanie,
btw).
everything in its own time-- tried to take em's words to heart.
ghost--aww emily, you're *upsettin'* me!  "now i see your face before me,
i would lauch a thousand ships to bring your heart back to my island as
the sand beneath me slips.  as i burn up in your presence and i know now
how it feels to be weakened like achilles, with you always at my heels."
eyes welling up...
leeds-- "find the open hole and press your fingers there with all your
might, before the last ounce of my spirit bleeds..."
welling still...
least complicated-- y'all know what line got me in this one--"and the next
time i fall..."  i don't want to think about it again.  that whole song
reminds me of a lovefool, who "never was cool", but tries so hard to
seem it, and does silly little nice things for the person they like, even
when it's in vain, even if they have to lose face for it.  sounds
familiar.
by now, it's about 10:30, and i'm praying that amy will play romeo and
juliet.  really actually hands folded, praying.  begging.
amy comes back out, and plays the opening strans of r&j.  she doesn't say
my request.  crushed,  i go over to
michelle, lay my hand on her shoulder.  she jumps, startled or shocked or
i don't know what, and this look of despise flickers across her eyes,
which throws me off guard.  i lean in and say in her ear, "this is for
you."  she looks at me like, what?  this *song*?
i go back over to my spot by steph and sing along with amy.
'well, this lovestruck romeo sings the streets a serenade.
he's layin' everybody low, he's got a lovesong he's made.
he finds a convenient streetlight, and he steps out of the shade,
and he says somethin' like, "you 'n' me, babe, how bout it?"
juliet says, "hey it's romeo, you nearly give me a heart attack"
yeah, well, he's underneath her window,
now she's singing, "hey-la, my boyfriend's back"'
(note:  amy let out this real cynical snicker after this line, kinda like
the ones my friends and i make when we see obviously straight couples, and
say, with an eye roll, "breeders...sheesh.")
'...and juliet, the dice were loaded from the start,
and i bet, and you exploded into my heart,
and i forget, i forget the movie song
when're you gonna realize it was just that the time was wrong?
julie, i'm so in love...' (amy really emotional here)...
'...and now your dream is real, so tell me honey,' (at this point i'm
*raging* in the aisle), 'now how can you look at me as if i was just
another ond of your deals?!"
now you can fall for chains of silver, and you can fall for chains of
gold, you can fall for pretty strangers, and the promises they hold...'
i start to cry.  darn that.
'well you promised me everything and then, and then you promised me thick
and thin, and now you just turn away and say, "romeo?  i think i used to
have a *scene* with him..."
...said i love you like the stars above, i'm gonna love you till i die,
there's a place for us..'.
i turn around and sing,
'"i know you know this song."'  she's not looking.
'...but i can't do the talk like they talk on my tv screen, can't do a
love song, not the way you sung to me...'
i wait until she looks at me.  my eyes bore into hers.
'...can't do anything but i would do anything for you, oh no, can't do
anything except be in love with you, yeah, now, all i do is miss you, and
the way it used to be...'
no response, maybe some eyes rolling.
'...and all i do is keep the beat...
i'm raging in her face.
...i keep bad, bad company.
and all i do is kiss you through the bars of this rhyme...'
i gesture to her,
'...when julie, i'd do the *stars* with you anytime, oh juliet...'
she squeezes her eyes shut, drops her head, folds her arms, sways.
'...oh yeah, so back to this lovestruck romeo (amy gives this funny
laugh, like, "whoa nellie, i got lost on a tangent back there!")'-- he
sings the streets a
serenade.  he's laying everybody low, got a love song he made.  and he'll
find a convenient streetlight, and he'll step out of the shade, and he'll
say something like...'
at this point i walk over to michelle and kneel down in front of her, the
whole section staring at me.  great.   gazing up at her, i finish with
amy,
'...you 'n' me, babe, how about it?'

the song ends, wild applause.  michelle looks down at me and says, really
nasty, "what are you *doing?!*"
i'm thinking, i'm gonna be nice, i don't care how mean she is.
"i'm trying to get you to talk to me," i say, "is it working?"
"no.  i've got nothing to say to you.  i've said it all already."
this oh-so-esteem-boosting conversation (if it can be called that)
continues for a tiny while, then i give up.  i go back to my spot for the
last song.  it's during this, closer to fine, that i lose all semblance of
sanity and composure.
"closer i am to fine."  wow, i can sing and sob at the same time?!  i'm
insane, i'm shaking with sobs.  i'm screaming, i'm heaving, i'm making
quite a spectacle of myself (i recall thinking that the other
concertgoers must be saying to themselves, "wow, what a fan that girl is!
see how upset she's getting that the concert is ending?!" heh.)(lucky
the music was so loud that no one could really hear me). but i
can't stop, can't stop.  this girl i don't even know (uh, that would be
michelle's-friend's-girlfriend) starts rubbing my back and trying to
console me or something.  sensing that the waterworks ain't shutting off
anytime soon, she gives up on me too.
concert over, i pester (i pester well)-- why?  why won't you speak?  stop
being like this, blah blah blah.  she walks away curtly.  i'm
*pathetically* calling after her ("michelle!  wait, please.  wait!"), when
outta nowhere becca is standing there, and thanking me for her tickets and
i'm trying
to be happy (as i spent the remainder of this weekend-- i'm sorry, dayton
people, barb and twink and kirby and steph and amy and jennifer and becca
and don and ...everybody.) but i'm not very convincing.   yeah, so, becca,
that's why i was kinda weird. oops, caught me at an especially
soap-operatic moment.  you're welcome, if i didn't say that yesterday.
so, stupid me, i go to her house this morning after i left the hotel.  i
knock.  a loud goofy voice from inside goes, "who iiiiiss it?"  and looks
at the door.  seeing me, no one answers the door.  they actually put the
tv on mute and sit there in absolute silence.  i was trying to get my
stuff back.  it's real fun talking though locked doors.  yeah.  i give up,
swear once or twice (swearing is bad, deidre!  "jill is *not* a role
model!") and leave that godforsaken city for the last time.
the end.
wow, that was *really* cathartic.  you know how telling a traumatic event
to a friend makes you feel a tiny bit better?  well, try telling it to
1,000 of them.  that's not to say that i'm susie sunshine now,
though...  argh.
jill
yes, the clothes make the man.
but the woman makes the clothes.
so what does that make the woman?

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 23:09:25 -0500
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   did anyone tape the vh1 show.  those of us at school with no cable
really are out of touch with the world.  i only get channel 7 pretty
fuzzy.  if anyone can let me know if the taped it or not i'd be glad to
trade for it,.\ thanks.

                                        mike d.

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 23:10:48 -0500
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in message <pine.pmdf.3.95.971116201533.230032h-100000@oberlin.edu>  writes:
> > ps. did anyone find out what the fish and snowflake shirt means? i mean,
> > i bought one anyway :)  but it'd be nice to know.   thank ya!
>
> ask lisa s. and don richard's granddaughter deidre to explain it to ya...
> jill

come on, share!  i asked amy in geneseo (i think.  that whole weekend's still
pretty foggy.) and she made it quite clear she had absolutely no idea.  so if
any of you know something you are obligated to share it with us all, no?  don't
make me whine!!!  oh and by the way, if it's ice fishing (deb!) then i want to
know why???

marivel

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        one more thing (sorry for the double post and waste of
bandwidth).  i am going to be in florida this new years eve (delray beach
visiting my grand parents.)  since they are prone to be in bed by 9 i
was wondering if anyone knew of any new years shows in the florida region.
i'll have my car down there and driving won't be a problem. i f anyone
could let me know i'd greatly appreciate it.

                thanks.
                        mike d

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can someone tell me if they taped vh-1.  i missed it because unfortunately my
local town puts all this realty crap on it at all times during the day.  i
wanted to tape it and was terribly disappointed when i saw two women singing
trying to sell some houses.  they definitely were not amy an emily.....
sniff. e-mail me personally if you don't mind.  i would love to hear that
someone has it.
thanks,
alison

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date:         sun, 16 nov 1997 23:52:24 -0500
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hey ya'll, sorry to waste bandwidth, but i can't find my copy of my faq and stuff and need to know how to
change from digest form to the other one. maybe sherlyn or someone could help???!! ;)  again, sorry.
dc

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ack!  i thought ig were supposed to be on at 9pm.  but it's 9 and inxs is
on hard rock live.  if anyone knows when they are going to show a repeat
on the west coast, i'd be eternally greatful if you'd share the info.
java

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i was channel surfing and happened upon  a program called "behind the
music" on vh1.  they're featuring the lillith fair and had a segment
specifically on a&e!!!  they showed sheryl crow practicing ttbt with them,
small clips of them walking around, playing....aaaggh, and then a short
interview in which they proclaim that they're gay and that they've never
slept together...and emily says, "thank god" and they both laugh!!  i hope
that vh1 airs this again because i'm in the middle of taping x files !!
does anyone know if this will re-air????

mildly freaking out,
rachel :)))))
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to all those interested in a copy of this, let me know and we can
work out a trade, because there are several things i am looking for
myself.  i have 2 vcrs, so i can do the dubbing.  email me
privately if you are interested.

and, pam- i'll get back to you about our deal in the works soon.
i've been busy and haven't had time to think!!

leigh ann

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if anyone knows when, where, etc in regards to the decorah, iowa show in
december, could you please let me know...im going to be home and after
tonight need to see the girls again...

they were amazing, but i can't elaborate on that cuz i need to get some
work done...ugh...

thanks
peace
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subject:      chicago list meet

just wanted to say it was nice to meet you guys...not to mention seeing emily
& amy :-)

mj
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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 01:00:49 -0600
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would whoever posted that address for tab of everything in it's own time
please send me that address . . .
        i've lost the first post.

thanks!
nelson
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hey y'all,

o.k., o.k., o.k., i give.

i swear that a few weeks ago, i was surfing listee homepages (courtesy of
color me indigo) and saw a link to some punk band who did a cover of
"closer to fine". now, maybe it wasn't on a listee homepage and is
floating out there in cyberspace somewhere. or maybe i was on drugs. but,
after literally a couple hours of searching the listee homepages, i came
up empty-handed. so...if someone could please enlighten me on this
subject, it would be much appreciated. (help me regain my sanity.)

thanks much y'all,
amy m.

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for those of you who are wondering if/when the behind the music special about
lilith fair is going to repeat they probably have that on their web page or
something...they always repeat stuff ( i swear if i turn the tv on one more
time and see the one about milli vanilli i will scream...because who really
gives a crap about them anyway)...

if i find out anything i will post about it though

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attention all operatives ---

  the vh-1 behind the scenes: lilith fair will be rebroadcast tuesday,
11/18 at 7 pm eastern and wednesday, 11/19 at 10 pm eastern. for more
information, consult http://www.prevue.com and go to your local
listings.

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>well, i finally had succes with scoring decent seats for
>the boston show, row j orchestra.  the first two times

i hate to tell you, but i believe the orpheum goes from
double letters in front orchestra to single letters in
back...so the first row is dd unless there's a pit.

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dear amy,
maybe you were on drugs.....but even if you were,im sure that i read
somewhere in a magazine that a british band....the wonder stuff i
think it was that did the cover,unless i was high too.maybe were doing
the same shit.


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i have one ticket for thursday's (11/20) madison show i am willing to sell
for face value ($38).  it is in the second row of the balcony.  email me
privately if you are interested.

michael

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did anyone boot last night's kick butt show?  if so, i would love a copy!!!
please email me privately.

michael

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good morning list folk---last night's show at the rosemont theater was
lovely as expected.  my attempt to review it is here.

so margaret picks us up in her "why won't the windows defrost" corrola.  it
is like 10 degrees out and the windchill is easily -78.  we get to the
theater and notice immediately that there is valet parking.  ok so it's 12
dollars.  divided by four and keeping in mind that hike from the lot, we
are there.

didn't hear a lick of danielle howle (sp?) and her tantrums.  sorry but
they were serving booze in the lobby!  so the beau and i cruised the other
five men at the concert while waiting for the list meet.  it was joyous.

then the list meet occurred.  i can't even tell you how many people showed
up.  i mean there must have been at least 150 list members at this
gathering.  i can't even begin to name all the amazing people i met.  i was
just swarmed by listers.  just off the top of my head---hi to dee, pooh
(nice wheelchair btw), mjg (whose name i still don't know), nicola, alycia,
kate, michelle, sue k, and joe.  sorry to the hundreds of others i am sure
i left out.  we clearly showed up boston's baigl party.  you all rock.
would have been flawless had i not run into a girl i went on a date with
like 3 years ago.  always nice to run into a past female date from your
straight days while standing next to your current boyfriend.  can you say
awkward.  her loss of course.  she looked like crap heh heh.

oh and some igc here--the show was great.  even with our balcony seats i
had a blast.  the theater is so nice and acoustically yummy.  emily must've
commented on the beauty of the theater like 10 times--gosh this place is
gorgeous.   oh and i think the girls mentioned how much they enjoy playing
chicago like 36 times.  although emily said--it's cold as hell which i
thought was a perfect segue into cold as ice.  no such luck :(

i don't have a full setlist and will leave that to others to post.  girls
were very happy from the getgo.  looks as though amy has cut her hair
again--bad bad bad.  and it could have easily been the ig and kelly hogan
show because she made several appearances.  some dork is screaming out ctf
as a request.  amy was like we'll play ctf.  crowd goes wild.  amy
replies--but not til the very end-psych.  i swear she said psych or maybe
emily said psych.  i was amused.

margaret and i concluded that leeds is clearly better without ulali.  the
evening had a country theme as two covers were done that i had never heard
before and were rather twangy.  i also got to hear love will come to you
live for the first time.  brought  tears to my eyes.

ok so they end the show with ctf.  shocker!  we are all filing out and
waiting inside in the warmth while the valet gets the car.  i like that
valet thing.  corolla shows up.  now get this.  amy is the friggin
valet!!!!  guess they are trying to cut down on labor cost.  well we tipped
amy like 10 bucks.  margaret didn't really want to let amy out of the car
but alas we let her go.  home we went!

nice meeting all of y'all.  see you again tonight where i'll have 4th row.
wooooohooooo!!!!!  off to work

greg

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 10:24:10 edt
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>>  the vh-1 behind the scenes: lilith fair will be rebroadcast tuesday,
11/18 at 7 pm eastern and wednesday, 11/19 at 10 pm eastern<<

for those of you who missed this please check it out.  so much igc you won't
believe it.  on tour was nice but this was prime.......

a great ending to a great weekend.....but really cold here....b

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i bought three front-row dead-center tickets from ticketmaster to the dec
9th show at iu auditorium.  it was the freakiest thing.  i got there early,
stood in line.  ticketmaster did the lottery and i ended up drawing first in
line.  i was expecting to get first five rows, instead i got the three
most-centered front row tickets!  i could not believe it.  the girl behind
me (20 second later transaction) got 2nd row, girl behind her (another 20
seconds) got 5th row and girl behind her (another 20 seconds) got 18th row.
they just issued tickets as fast as they could since we were all getting
"best available."  i pulled the seating chart and looked where our tickets
said we were and about fell over.  i really started shaking.  i couldn't
hold the seating chart to read it because my hands were shaking so much.
hehehe :)  it's amazing what front row tickets to ig can do to the body.

does anyone know how ticketmaster works?  i'm guessing this is a really
freakish thing that happened (not that i'm complaining *laugh*).  i guess i
would have to be first in their computer or something to get these seats.
i'm just amazed.  my first ever front-row tickets and they're to ig!!!!!!

happy, happy, joy, joy... :)))))

- rick

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 10:37:34 -0500
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subject:      ig @ rutgers and dayton!

hey everyone!  so i write out the review and my computer crashes...so here's
a second try!

i'm baaaaack!  i know that this is a little late...but we got back to nj at 3
in the morning and i had to sleep...

but before i begin...i need the people who were talking about ig @ rutgers to
e-mail me....i might have something!

we missed all but danielle howle's last two songs b/c my friend's sister
forgot the tix and we had to turn around and get them but she sounded really
good.  no review for her...

ok...so here we go...and first...<drum-roll please>the setlist!

1.  tangled up in blue
2.  three hits (nice surprise)
3.  galileo
4.  land of caanan
5.  everything in its own time
6.  shed your skin (amazing)
7.  get out the map
8.  pushing the needle to far (my friend flipped b/c she really wanted to
hear this and didn't expect to)
9.  redemption song (i don't think that they planned it b/c afterwards amy
said...ok...now back to the setlist!!!)
10.  ghost  (we were bawling our eyes out)
11.  chickenman! (wow!  it rawked as usual!)
12.  it's alright
13.  leeds (so we yell out the ulali parts-expecting everyone to do the
same...and instead we just got these really odd looks from everyone around
us!  lol)
14.  scooter boys
15.  least complicated
16.  shame on you
encore...
17.  thin line
18.  r&j (you haven't lived 'til you've seen this!)
19.  closer to fine

all i have is one sentence...dueling guitars was the theme of the evening!
it was fabulous!!!  definitely worth the 12 hour drive (yeah, it took us
that long...the roads were really slick and the cops were out...oh well....)
it was the best crowd i ever saw...(except for the girl behind me who asked
me who the blonde one was!!!  i swear!)...everyone was singing and
dancing...none of that sit down stuff.  they looked like they had soooo much
fun.  at the end of shame on you amy was all jumping around and she threw her
guitar at one of the techies...(couldn't see who it was...didn't put on the
glasses!)
we couldn't find the list meet in the lobby...ack!  but i was wearing a
college of charleston sweatshirt and then (when i got hot from dancing) a
blue/green button down cordouroy (i kan't spell right now) shirt!  e-mail me
if you saw me and say hello!

ok...so i'm really tired (it just hit me again) and i have sooo much more to
say but i think i'll check the list so that i don't repeat stuff!

if you made it this far...thanx yall!

ruthie<-- who's apologizing publicly to liz and shouting out with the arms
waving and flying hysterically...i love you!!!

ab...did you make it back to maryland ok?

girl in back:  what are you writing down all of the time?
erin and ruthie:  the setlist
girl:  oh...ok...can i ask you another question?
ruthie:  sure (while singing in the key of off!)
girl:  which is the blond one behind the piano [playing leeds]
ruthie:  rotflhfao
erin:  see above
ruthie:  <feeling embarassed that she laughed]  you serious?  it's
emily...emily saliers
lol!

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well folks, i've never written a concert review before but i'll do my
best, since greg is the only other person to step forward with details.
let's see...the following is my best recollection of songs played,
though it's all top-of-the-head remembering, which i don't think was
too influenced by all the ig i listened to in the car that day...(?)
in somewhat scrambled order:

power of two
strange fire
shame on you
shed your skin (amy rocked...i believe this was the song where,
afterwards, she laughingly told the audience that perhaps
she'd been listening to too much neil young lately!)
help me make it through the night (with kelly hogan - dedicated to
the bus driver. (?))
three hits
galileo
least complicated (lots of sing-along)
love will come to you
get out the map
it's alright
don't give that girl a gun (pretty intense, ending with the lines
               somebody noted recently: give that back to me, give it
               back, give it back to me, etc.)
scooter boys
pushing the needle too far (somebody correct me - they did this,
right?  my mind is questioning now...???
chickenman
hey kind friend
some other song with kelly hogan (which emily told us that they had
                 all just decided to learn "that day."  it was pretty
                 good for a basically country number - don't know the
                 title and don't even remember any words)
leeds
closer to fine (btw, as greg said, somebody was clamoring for this
earlier so amy sez, "ok, we're gonna play closer to
fine..."- wild applause - "at the end of the show, so              y'all
will just have to stick around if you want to hear              it.  i
believe that bit happened right before they went              into least
complicated ,the first few bars of which drove              the audience
wild)

a few little notes:
emily was pretty funny talking about how they really are a bar band,
and at one point during a song intro she said "we had a request for this
next one," whereupon she and amy cracked up and said how back in their
bar days they would, when they wanted to play a song, announce, "this
next one is a request."  they giggled and said, "yeah, that always made
the bar manager happy that we were taking requests - even if we were
just making it up!"
another "bar" anecdote they shared was when one of them laughingly
remarked how bar managers would say, "we'd like to have you girls back
again, but frankly they just weren't drinking out there tonight."
she then turned to the crowd and said, "so y'all drink up, ok?"
(much laughter in the audience)
i'm pretty sure i missed a couple songs on my set list, but i didn't
bring pencil and paper and didn't even think last night to jot down
the songs while they were all fresh in my mind.  others feel free to
correct my list (a correct order would be good too)
the theatre is indeed lovely - but man, what tacky carpet on the stairs
to the balcony...little comedy/tragedy masks printed into the
pattern...ugh.  and that crystal chandelier the size of a major
communications satellite, hovering above the lobby, certainly adds an
interesting touch. this theatre is kind of an "art deco-goes-90's"
place, in shades of coral and grey...
nice to meet the listees i saw...special thanks to greg for his efforts
with the sign. :)
and pooh - you really get around well for someone with your
disabilities.  ;)  hi to dee, joe, alycia (sp?) and all others...
see y'all...
oh, before i go, although i have no use for this sort of thing i know
there are those who "need to know"
- fashion report -
emily - long-sleeve solid white sweat-shirt type thing, under bib
overalls. reddish boots
amy - blue + white vertically striped button-down-collar shirt,
      sleeves partially rolled up and flapping wildly around, brown
cotton trousers, + black doc's i think
sara lee - plaid pants and cream colored top
others...???
dave ellison in what looked like a black tuxedo sans jacket.  (is
he really as awful as described in the earlier post?  seemed pretty
friendly to the crowd before the show....??? and a great harp player)
alright, i'm outa here.
wow, by far my longest post ever.
hopefully it will remain my record for a long time to come.
(except i am going to milwaukee in december...)
peace-nic

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 11:33:49 -0500
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subject:      nigc atl. lift reminder

hey friendly atlanta folks.
hope to see you at smith's old bar this friday around 10 or 10:30pm.  the
(other) girls (and boy) will be playing old and new stuff for the masses.
they're really sounding amazing lately and you should check them out!  i
think the cover is $8.  what a bargain!  see ya' there!
cheri

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 09:55:00 +0000
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hi, thought i'd let you in on my latest mix tapes:

***************************
least compilated - 90 minutes
***************************
don't feel like going out, tracking down and buying the 30 or more
cd's the girls have contributed one song to but are still interested
in hearing all of them?  fear not, mooch off of some obsessive
fan who already has!  i have compiled and compacted this collection
from 14 cds of various tributes and cooperations that the girls
were involved in. you can also consider this tape a sampler of
friends of the girls, many of who have been mentioned on this list.
set list:
1.  rockin' in the free world - from the power of two promo,
      with k's choice, recorded in atlanta symphony hall 12/9/94
      - this tune rocks!
2.  i'll give you my skin - from tame yourself, a benefit for peta
     with michael stipe, 1991 - this is easily the coolest song on this
     cd, but there are other good things on it.  i think it's out of
print but
     i've seen it for $5 in used stores
3.  uncle john's band - from deadicated, a tribute to the grateful dead
     1991 - even if you are not a dead fan, this is a cool cd
4.  crazies - from not dead yet, by the new mongrels 1993 - the
      new mongrels were put together by the girls and friends haynes
      brooke, gerard mchugh, michael lorent, sheila doyle (big fish
      ensemble) & mm and is quite fun.  songs 4-9 are from this cd.
5.  9 fingers - amy sings this one, and possibly contributed to its
content;
      it sounds very "amy".  the rest they sing backup or play guitar
on.
6.  wingtip sherrif
7.  not dead (yet)
8.  everybody falls
9.  climbin' tree
10. it won't take long - from rock for choice, 1995, a cd to support
      freedom of choice and to celebrate roe vs wade in 1973.  the song
      was written by ferron.  nuf said!  this entire cd is great, and
has
      very cute young pictures of the girls (from 73?) and all the rest
of the
      artists.
11. free of hope - from sweet relief ii, a benefit for the medical
expenses
      of musicians.  all songs are by vic chesnutt and the girls chose a
beauty.
12.  blood quantum - from honor, a benefit for honor the earth, 1996.
this
       is the only song amy and emily wrote together that they are
remotely
       happy with.  the whole cd is worth ordering, from daemon of
course.
13.  i don't wanna talk about it - from the philadelphia soundtrack,
written
       by danny whitton
14.  love is a lion - from gerard mchugh's more than i cd - i love his
       music.  thin line is also on this cd but he sings it with
michelle malone.
       this is a great tune that a&e sing backup on.
15.  animal - big fish ensemble, "i hate parties" - fun cd, the girls
sing
       backup on this song.
16.  stand up - ferron, "phantom center" - i can't say enough about this
cd
       or this song!  ferron is a goddess and the girls sing amazing
harmonies
       on this.  tori amos fans will also enjoy this cd as she sings
backup on
       some songs too.  not with the girls unfortunately!
17.  one moment to another - kris mckay, "what love endures" - great
       cd!  kris sounds a bit country, which might bother some, but she
really
       is a great songwriter.
18.  any single solitary heart - kris mckay,  "what love endures"
-beautiful
       duet with emily
19.  washington work song - disappear fear - fun cd, the girls sing some

        backup.
20.  moment of glory - disappear fear - amy does the backup on this one.

21.  butler field - caroline aiken, "butler field" - a stunning
three-way
       harmony with a&e - i highly recommend this entire cd.
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pity party - the sucks to be me compilation - 90 minutes
=========================================
in light of the recent mass sadness on this list, i went through my
collection and pulled out the most depressing, "i've been left and my
life is over" tunes i could find and put them together.  this tape is
not finished, so the list & order are still up in the air but here's an
idea:
1.  the edge - michelle malone, "beneath the devil moon"
2.  fly away - poe
3.  everything in its own time - ig, "shame on you"
4.  lies - wendy woo
5.  i will never be the same - melissa ethridge, "yes i am"
6.  be the one - disappear fear
7.  blood and fire - ig
9.  lying to the moon - matraca berg
10.  don't speak - no doubt
11.  for once in my life - melissa ferrick
12.  i am so ordinary - paula cole
13.  the letter - natalie merchant
14.  don't give that girl a gun - ig, "shame on you"
15.  any single solitary heart - kris mckay, "what love endures"
16.  in a lifetime - clannad
17.  hold on - sarah mclachlan

lock yourself in a room, put on your headphones and prepare for
tear therapy!
===============================================

if anyone's interested in either of these, let me know.

elizabeth from colorado, counting down the days until i get my minidisk
recorder and very cool binaural mic (vcbm) from core sound!
check out http://www.panix.com/~moskowit/ for the vcbm.  stay
tuned as i test it out on sarah nov 24th and the girls dec 13.

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 12:09:55 -0500
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subject:      skippeec

hey elizabeth aka skippeec...i went to your page and read your cd list...what
is that cd leevees break in my heart? i've never heard of it before...btw i
tried to e mail you privately about this but the mail came back to me and
said undeliverable because of a permanent fatal error (hmmmm sounds
serious)...

heather

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 12:57:17 -0500
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marivel danielson <marivel@m.imap.itd.umich.edu> wrote:
>1.  univeristy of maryland at baltimore (what does the "c" stand for then in
>umbc?) 10/25/97; 100 minutes.  this boot is not great quality but i know that
>doesn't matter to some of you.  also keep in mind that deb (mindspring) and
tori
>also have a boot that they are willing to copy sometime in the undisclosed
>future, and it has to be way better than mine cause mine has cut outs on at
>least 6 songs including the entire end of closer to fine.  if either deb or
tori
>could post something about when this boot might be available that would be
>really really sweet (hint, hint).  there's no rush of course, but it might be
>helpful for others to know when that other boot will be available to decide
if
>they want to wait for better quality or just ask for my crappy one now.
>
>setlist is: galileo/shame on you/tangled up in blue/cut it out/get out the
>map/shed your skin/10,000 wars/reunion/least comp./scooter
boys/winthrop/romeo
>and juliet/power of 2/chickenman/va woolf/can't find my way home (with c.
>aiken)/joking/tried to be true/ctf

well, let's see, it's already mid-november and we're heading into the
holidays... but i hope to get that tape re-mastered and start the umbc tree in
2-3 weeks, getting the last copies to leaves around 6-8 weeks.

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subject:      them's fightin words nigc
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--- greg wrote(in reference to chicago):

didn't hear a lick of danielle howle (sp?) and her tantrums.  sorry but
they were serving booze in the lobby!  so the beau and i cruised the other
five men at the concert while waiting for the list meet.  it was joyous.

**five whole guys at an ig show? holy sausagefest!!! :-)

then the list meet occurred.  i can't even tell you how many people showed
up.  i mean there must have been at least 150 list members at this
gathering.

i can't even begin to name all the amazing people i met.  i was
just swarmed by listers.  just off the top of my head---hi to dee, pooh
(nice wheelchair btw), mjg (whose name i still don't know), nicola, alycia,
kate, michelle, sue k, and joe.  sorry to the hundreds of others i am sure
i left out.

***** damn, i thought the baigl contingent was huge, but we can't even compete
with hundreds. unless of course you count those of us with multiple
personalities (stoptalkingtheyaregoingtoseeyoushuttupstupid)

  we clearly showed up boston's baigl party.

*** whatevva! you guys can't even get it together enuff to have an actual get
together at someone's house, so you have to resort to the lobby of the venue
with the beer and boys?  we still win!!!!

;)

love to you, flamer

sus

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 13:34:18 -0400
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subject:      re: them's fightin words nigc
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at 2:06 pm -0400 11/17/97, susan b. marine wrote:
>--- greg wrote(in reference to chicago):

>   i mean there must have been at least 150 list members at this
gathering.  .....we clearly showed up boston's baigl party.
>
>*** whatevva! you guys can't even get it together enuff to have an actual get
>together at someone's house, so you have to resort to the lobby of the venue
>with the beer and boys?  we still win!!!!

susan, what's that saying about quality vs. quantity?  hmmmm...think think
think....;o)

who needs the enticement of beer when you have fudge on a frisbee?  now i
ask you!

seriously, glad you finally pulled it together out there in the
midwest...list meets rawk!

later y'all!

joni  :o)

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subject:      nigc : celebration.....

just wanted to tell everybody - it's my birthday this week!!!!!!!!
(well, thursday, actually....). i know it's a bit early to send a
message to the list, but i thought everybody should know because
it's always kinda special - my cousin was born half an hour before
me (11.45pm, november the 19th 1975), while i was born at 12.15am,
november 20th 1975.

john.


"where's the kaboom? there was supposed to be an
earth - shattering kaboom!!!"

marvin the martian.

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i loved rosemont's carpet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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subject:      rutgers????

did someone actually say rutgers university as stop on this leg of the tour?
please fill me in with any info you have. thanks!

-dani :)

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elizabeth <elizabeth.nitz@evolving.com> wrote:

>hi, thought i'd let you in on my latest mix tapes:
>
>***************************
>least compilated - 90 minutes
>***************************
>don't feel like going out, tracking down and buying the 30 or more
>cd's the girls have contributed one song to but are still interested
>in hearing all of them?  fear not, mooch off of some obsessive
>fan who already has!  i have compiled and compacted this collection
>from 14 cds of various tributes and cooperations that the girls
>were involved in. you can also consider this tape a sampler of
>friends of the girls, many of who have been mentioned on this list.

first, let me say that this sounds like a really great tape and it's cool of
elizabeth to offer it to the list.  but i hope that those of you who want
these tracks will buy the albums they're on when possible, as most are benefit
cds, and several are released by amy's non-profit label daemon.  i figure the
girls are pretty busy, and that if they take time to lend their voices to
something, it's because they'd like to encourage you to buy it, for charity or
artistic reasons.  in that spirit, i've done a little legwork (okay,
fingerwork <g>) to make it easy for you to buy some of these cd's as an
alternative to trading for the pirated versions:

>3.  uncle john's band - from deadicated, a tribute to the grateful dead
>     1991 - even if you are not a dead fan, this is a cool cd

available at <http://www.cdnow.com>.

>4.  crazies - from not dead yet, by the new mongrels 1993 - the
>      new mongrels were put together by the girls and friends haynes
>      brooke, gerard mchugh, michael lorent, sheila doyle (big fish
>      ensemble) & mm and is quite fun.  songs 4-9 are from this cd.
>5.  9 fingers - amy sings this one, and possibly contributed to its
>     content; it sounds very "amy".  the rest they sing backup or play
>     guitar on.
>6.  wingtip sherrif
>7.  not dead (yet)
>8.  everybody falls
>9.  climbin' tree

"not dead yet" is a *great* cd, and is available at
<http://monsterbit.com/daemon/mongrels.html>.

>10. it won't take long - from rock for choice, 1995

the cd is actually called "spirit of '73," but may be out of print.  there's a
link to it's home page at <http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo/music.html>.

>11. free of hope - from sweet relief ii, a benefit for the medical
>expenses of musicians.  all songs are by vic chesnutt and the girls chose a
>beauty.

available at <http://www.cdnow.com>.

>12.  blood quantum - from honor, a benefit for honor the earth, 1996.
>this is the only song amy and emily wrote together that they are
>remotely happy with.  the whole cd is worth ordering, from daemon of
>course.

yep! <http://monsterbit.com/daemon/honor.html>

>13.  i don't wanna talk about it - from the philadelphia soundtrack,
>written by danny whitton

available at <http://www.cdnow.com>.

>14.  love is a lion - from gerard mchugh's more than i cd - i love his
>       music.  thin line is also on this cd but he sings it with
>       michelle malone. this is a great tune that a&e sing backup on.

available at <http://monsterbit.com/daemon/gerard.html>.

>15.  animal - big fish ensemble, "i hate parties" - fun cd, the girls
>sing backup on this song.

available at
<http://www.monsterbit.com/cgi-bin/mailmerge.cgi/longplay/lporder>.

>16.  stand up - ferron, "phantom center" - i can't say enough about this
>cd or this song!  ferron is a goddess and the girls sing amazing
>harmonies on this.  tori amos fans will also enjoy this cd as she sings
>backup on some songs too.  not with the girls unfortunately!

available at <http://www.cdnow.com>.

>19.  washington work song - disappear fear - fun cd, the girls sing some
>       backup.
>20.  moment of glory - disappear fear - amy does the backup on this one.

available at <http://www.cdnow.com>.

>21.  butler field - caroline aiken, "butler field" - a stunning
>three-way harmony with a&e - i highly recommend this entire cd.

available at <http://www.songs.com/silverwolf/caroline/index.html>.

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subject:      chicago review

here it is!!!  the review you've all been waiting for!!!!!  k, so maybe
not... humor me, i'm going on 4 hours sleep.

lovely theater, i felt underdressed in jeans...  i also fought the urge to
speak thru clinched teeth & call people "buffy" & "biff", but i digress...

danielle howle was the opening act.  the 2 women behind us were rolling with
laughter.   goddess amy thinks she's wonderful.  not to be struck by
lightning, but, ummm, i thought we listees coulda gotten on stage singing our
own renditions of ig songs and been much more entertaining.

with that in mind, after 4 songs my pal ann (who was very nice company, but i
really missed having my hunny there with me <sigh> hi jen!) & i went roaming
the lobby looking for the big nigc sign...

making a grand entrance, coming down the lobby stairs, carrying his 2 foot
high sign, was none other than our own greg flamer!!!!!  greg -- i really
like tom!

k, you badass bialy east roller coasters, we had so many folks show up under
the sign of the greg, that we lost count!!!!  it was a great turn out & those
that showed made me tear up with pride in my chicagoland listee pals!  i'm
sorry i didn't get to mingle with all of you... just too many of us and too
little time!!!!  and just so the rest of you guys know... it's a joke: that
whole thing about pooh & her wheelchair... but she swings a nasty cane!!!!!
the side of my head still hurts.  doing okay today, old timer???  did we
keep ya out too late? ;)

now about the show...  i'm sure a setlist can be found somewhere, but i lost
track after about the 4th song.

in no particular order:
shame on you
least complicated
3 hits
power of 2
get out the map
tried to be true
help me make it thru the night (kelly hogan singing lead)
shed your skin
it's alright
don't give that girl a gun
leeds
scooter boys
love will come to you
chickenman
galileo
hey kind friend
here i am (kewl kountry tune written by tony arata, kelly hogan sang w/emily)
closer to fine

they were excellent (of course!!!).

highlights: emily messed up po2 "ooops.  what was that verse?"  another emily
quote, "it's cold as hell!!!!  invigorating."  it never got out of the 20's.
brrrr.

best amy quote: "we're gonna play closer to fine..."
audience: "huh?" "now???" "is the show over???"
amy: "at the end of the show!  psych!"  hahaha.  what a jokester!

alright, my gf told me to be succinct, and knowing how verbose i am, this is
succinct!!!!

happy monday, y'all!!! =)
dee

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 14:48:32 -0500
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subject:      re: my latest tapes - pity party!

elizabeth wrote:
>=========================================
>pity party - the sucks to be me compilation - 90 minutes
>=========================================
>in light of the recent mass sadness on this list, i went through my
>collection and pulled out the most depressing, "i've been left and my
>life is over" tunes i could find and put them together.

i just recently did that, too! only mine are all ig. and they're not
really all *sad* songs exactly, but they're great to listen to (and/or
sing along with) when you're feeling crummy! this is what i have on it:

kid fearseverything in it's own timeprince of darknessthe water is
widehey kind friendleft me a foolghostweakness in mesecure yourselfgirl
with the weight of the world in her handsblood and firelove's
recoveryleedsyou left it up to meriveryou & me of the 10,000 warskeeper
of my heartthe untitled songhey jesusfalling starhistory of uscarry me
awayfare thee wellif anyone needs a really, really good cry, and wants my
tape as well as elizabeth's you're perfectly welcome to it.

all things indigo,
kristina :o)

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          hold fast to that languageless connection." --emily saliers

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hate to correct but i don't remember the girls playing stange fire or
pushing the needle too far.  unless i fell asleep (not).  someone
correct me if i am wrong.

peace!

joe

btw the concert was awsome!

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okay, so i know stuff like this to the list, but i really need to switch
to the digest version and i don't know how, and i've checked the faq...
yeah, so i'm the idiot who deleted the welcome message that said "save
for future reference"!!! so, someone, please tell me how to do this! i
have over 400 messages in my inbox right now and will never have the time
to sort
through them all!
thanks!
becca

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i have two tickets available for the show on the 26th in atlanta. they
are orchestra section, row o, seats 22 and 24 and were $69 including
ticketmaster charges. if interested, email me.

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okay, my turn at bat for a review...but before i go off in description
land, i just wanna say this (cuz i've always wanted to say this, and now no
one can stop me...)

i met da girls!!!! woooohooooo!!!!! (said in my lovely southside chicago
accent)
<ahem> okay.  i'm all better now.  on with da show....

danielle howle and her little tantrums were rawkin. :)  it was funny
watching her jump up and down in her pigtails singing "big puffy girl
handwriting" :)  she didnt play "i held the satchel" even tho i was
screaming it after every song she did.  anyways, you folks going tonite
will hear it.  ;)

list meet was really cool.  glad to have met you peeps, although i didnt
meet everyone. :(  but, i got to give the ol' geezer pooh a bearhug :)
(hiya pooh, no hun..i dont need a toaster :p)

i think between dee and flamer's posts most of the cool stuff was covered
for the ig set...i think emily fudging up po2 was too cute for words...it
was jam session nite on a few songs...noticeably scooter boyz, shed yer
skin, and chickenman. amy had enough energy and smiles to heat up every
single house in chicago.  emily played beautifully, sang beautifully.  :)
kelly hogan was their guest for the nite...she has a really awesome voice.
amy said kelly and danielle will be playing the "empty glass" -- then
caught herself and said "oops, i mean empty bottle" <again, too cute>  a
very nice tough for the night were the cover songs, in which i have no clue
what they were but one of them was like a sally smith song or something and
the other one towards the end of the show was something like "here i am".
i dunno.  all i know was it was way freakin cool to listen to.  i can't
remeber the rest of the setlist, but i do know that they didnt play
"strange fire" (i remeber that cuz if they did, i woulda jumped outta my
overalls right then and there).

hmmmm....what else?  oh, i got yelled at a few times for dancing in the
aisles.  the patrol dude kept telling me to go back to my seat.  <sigh>  i
stood for 99% of the show tho (even tho some people said i couldnt pull it
off...heh-heh).  i think the only song i sat down for was leeds...anyways i
digress...

okay, lets fastforward to after the show.  it is nasty cold in chicago
(brrrrrrrrrr).....first of all, lemme just say that i parked my car 10 feet
away from the tour buses.  :)  sooooo, i wasn't ready to go home yet so i
kinda sat in my car for a little bit :)  it took a while, but when the crew
and dave ellison and sulli came out, we all kinda gathered around the
backstage door.  there were a few of us...(hi chandra! hi pam!)

sidenote:  yes folks, dave ellison is a dork.  but i respect him for that
because its his job.  i'll elaborate if anyone needs me to.  sulli on the
otherhand, is way cool :)

dang, i'm late for class...lemme cut to the chase here...

the first to come out of the building, jerry marotta and sara lee....they
said hi, we all told them they rawked.  then, right into the bus. it was
cold, i dont blame 'em.

then, ms. amy "i'm about 5'7 tall" ray came out and we all went buckwild.
:)  she was in a rush to get on the bus so she apologized for not stopping
for autographs and stuff.  but before she could hop on the bus, i handed
her my kickass bart simpson action figure and told her to take care of him
for me...she says "oh cool! i love the simpsons!!!!"  then she says thanks,
and bye and hops on da bus.  off they go.

then we all ask where emily was..the police dude says that everyone is
gone. the crowd leaves...except for me and four other peeps (again, you
guys!)
a minute after everyone leaves, danille howle comes out and chats with us
for a little bit.  she is so damn funny.  sweet as hell.  :)  then she
goes, but before she climbs into the car she whipsers to us that the em
will be out soon.  :)  so we wait....and wait...and wait...its getting damn
late...and then....

the security guy sticks his head out da door and sez, "hey you guys come in
here, qwik!"  so we marched in like da man said.  i walk in first...and
there's em walking towards us with a big smile.  <insert warm fuzzie
feelings here>  em couldnt believe we waited outside in the cold (folks, it
was really really cold last nite).  i asked for a hug, and i got one.
emily is a great hugger, i highly recommend getting bearhugged by her :) :)
:)  (its a nice way to warm up too <g>) so everyone got a hug, coupla'
pictures and an autograph.  oh yeah, i gave emily my stuffed teddy bear
charlie :)  she put it in her pocket and charlie's head stuck outta her
pocket...it was a another warm fuzzy moment for me :)  well, then we kinda
said our thank yous and goodbyes and parted ways.  i requested ghost for
tonite show before i walked out the door...she said "sure!"  ( i hope she
remebers...)  hey chandra and pam from mn, come out from lurkdom and post!!!

holy schmoly this post is getting long.
i know i'm forgetting something, but i gotta go.
later,
---sue (aka the chiquita who thanks you if you read this whole post)

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subject:      re: ig @ rutgers and dayton!

had to laugh when i read about you belting the ulali part out during
leeds...my g/f and i did the same thing when we saw them in october in
fredricksburg, va...the people around us didn't see the humor but our whole
row did :)


heather

taken out of context i must seem so strange- ani

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subject:      levees break in my heart

ok people it was suggested to me by eleizabeth that i ask all of ya'll if any
of you know about this recording...so...do you? has anyone seen it, know
somebody who has it (and you would be willing to swipe it for a handsome
finders fee ;)...you get the idea...i hate when i don't have something..this
is going to drive me nuts...


heather

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subject:      kris mckay

>>>>17.  one moment to another - kris mckay, "what love endures" - great
       cd!  kris sounds a bit country, which might bother some, but she
really
       is a great songwriter.<<<<<<<


this cd of kris' is so old...she doesn't sound like that (country or
whatever) anymore...her last cd "things that show" is really really really
good...and not very country sounding at all..i'm not sure if i should be
offended or not..kris mckay is an incredible performer...she usually gets
stuck opening for people and only plays solo in and around texas for the most
part..the last time i saw her live was in august of 96 opening at the
backyard for a&e...and it was amazing...

go buy her cd now...


heather- you can take the grrl outta texas but ya can't take texas outta the
grrl

taken out of context i must seem so strange - ani

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 16:27:04 -0500
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november 17
c641368@mizzou1.missouri.edu (angela)
happy 22nd, angela!

november 18
asl@gandalf.ucms.maine.edu (michael reynolds)
happy 24th, mike!

november 19
maclayton@mhc.mtholyoke.edu (margaret clayton)

november 20
salray@webtv.net (tracy fears "sal-ray")
happy 22nd, tracy!

november 20, 1975, 12:15 am
bonj1_95@worc.ac.uk (john)
happy 22nd, john!
"that's no moon - that's a space station!"

november 21
macleods@spectranet.ca (lori macleod)
"i'd like to wish tami a happy 30th birthday"
         - from the geneva show (11/3/97)

november 22
reb22@hermes.cam.ac.uk (rachael e. bradley)

november 23
rcn@prcn.org (kim fischer)
"pain from pearls -hey little girl
how much have you grown?"

november 23
rgcs1123@aol.com (rena)
"so i know i'm all right
life will come and life will go"

november 23
vmenanteau@aol.com (erika menanteaux)
happy 20th, erika!

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allright now..so far i have had 11 people( ii..count them!!)
comment to me..gawd..you don't look nearly as ooooooold as i thought you
would..(shuddup schulman!)
so ..to set the record..i am not as old as i am..in fact i'm much
younger...
ok?
pooh (who isn't an axe murderer)

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 16:53:44 -0400
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at 8:41 pm -0400 11/17/97, no name wrote:
>allright now..so far i have had 11 people( ii..count them!!)
>comment to me..gawd..you don't look nearly as ooooooold as i thought you
>would..(shuddup schulman!)

she is a cocky sunofabitch, isn't she....;o)  just because you use a cane
doesn't mean you're old...sheesh!  (you know, they say the sense of humor
is one of the first things to go...i said the sense of humor is one of the
first things to go!  ...running...;o)

>so ..to set the record..i am not as old as i am..in fact i'm much
>younger...
>ok?
>pooh (who isn't an axe murderer)

"...but i played one on tv..."

joni  :o)

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all the warm fuzzies you've shared so far have been sweet, but where's a
complete "this is really the order because i wrote it down"
setlist?!?!?!?!?!?!

thank you for your attention to this matter.

deb

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i am sooooooo mad that i left...i was waiting and only stayed long enough
to see sara and amy get on the bus...it was freezing cold, and i thought
that perhaps emily had snuck out somehow...wow, little did i know...i have
never kicked myself this hard...

but, amy was just so cute and having her like three feet in front of me was
inspirational to say the least...

damn schoolwork and cold and people that you are driving home telling you
that they need to get back been waiting long enough...:)

peace y'all,
melissa
>then we all ask where emily was..the police dude says that everyone is
>gone. the crowd leaves...except for me and four other peeps (again, you
>guys!)
>a minute after everyone leaves, danille howle comes out and chats with us
>for a little bit.  she is so damn funny.  sweet as hell.  :)  then she
>goes, but before she climbs into the car she whipsers to us that the em
>will be out soon.  :)  so we wait....and wait...and wait...its getting damn
>late...and then....
>
>the security guy sticks his head out da door and sez, "hey you guys come in
>here, qwik!"  so we marched in like da man said.  i walk in first...and
>there's em walking towards us with a big smile.  <insert warm fuzzie
>feelings here>  em couldnt believe we waited outside in the cold (folks, it
>was really really cold last nite).  i asked for a hug, and i got one.
>emily is a great hugger, i highly recommend getting bearhugged by her :) :)
>:)  (its a nice way to warm up too <g>) so everyone got a hug, coupla'
>pictures and an autograph.  oh yeah, i gave emily my stuffed teddy bear
>charlie :)  she put it in her pocket and charlie's head stuck outta her
>pocket...it was a another warm fuzzy moment for me :)  well, then we kinda
>said our thank yous and goodbyes and parted ways.  i requested ghost for
>tonite show before i walked out the door...she said "sure!"  ( i hope she
>remebers...)  hey chandra and pam from mn, come out from lurkdom and post!!!
>
>holy schmoly this post is getting long.
>i know i'm forgetting something, but i gotta go.
>later,
>---sue (aka the chiquita who thanks you if you read this whole post)
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subject:      dayton: a little late...but..

hey all!!!  (this is a little long, so if you're not into reviews, and
rambles, do skip!)

     this is my first post, and although i have been "listing" for over a
month, this is the best thing in the whole world!!!:o)
     anyway, i just had to say how incredibly amazing the dayton show really
was.  the songs that they played, the moods the girls were obviously in, and
the mood that the crowd was in, made this concert one of the best i've seen
ever.  i dunno if anyone has mentioned this, but scooter boys was one of the
most intense performances i have ever seen! amy was sooo into it, and she
went off into this really cool solo thing.  she also did a really unique
performance of pushing the needle to far, which she also went crazy in the
middle with.  the concert was amazing, especially because some people with
4th row seats didn't bother to show up, leaving my friend and i with a
perfect view on the floor. (which was surprisingly a lot smaller space than i
had though it would be!).  i also managed to catch one of those flying picks,
although every time one hit the floor, it became a wrestling match with about
5 people:)  well, now that i've finished my first post (yay!) i will happily
leave with pictures of the girls still very vivid!!! oh, one last thing..if
anyone booted the concert would you please please please e-mail me, and i
will do anything to help with shipping etc.  *columbus concert is only 14
days away!!!!
thanks for listenin', and hope someone out there in indigo land has booted
this amazing concert!!!!
...fare thee well....

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 15:07:02 -0700
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this thread about pity party tapes really got me going!

i used to be a real conniseur of late-night drive tapes -- the kind that you
popped in and listened to as you drove for hours, not wanting to go home yet,
maybe smoking a cigarette (if that's your thing...) and just letting your
heart cry.

now i'm happily married, and only have a cd player in my car, but it seems it
wasn't just an emotional thing, because i still love that kind of music.

i've already got the ig tape and the original pity party list from the last
digest, but i'd be willing to take any and all suggestions for pity party
selections; i'll wait a week, and if it's not too long, i'll post the
suggestions to the list (making sure there's a healthy does of ig to ensure
good ig content :) ). at the least, i'll be able to e-mail the list to
interested (and depressed) parties.

just e-mail me at paul@dmsymphony.org.

- paul (not certain if i can stand waiting until dec. 4 to tell my wife we
have ig tix!)

p.s. coming soon: "pi**ed off at the world" songs, for that post-cry fury!

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 17:46:10 -0500
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subject:      chicago concert

hey who else is going to the show tonight?

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subject:      chicago & chicago again

ok guys,
  as for the set list confusion...i'll post it later..actually i have the
original ig set list from the stage, not to mention one of the girls guitar
picks from last night's show. whoo hoo, what a good night!  i'll post the set
list later tonight, i have to get ready (1st row center orchestra
seats...just had to add that)  for tonight's show.

see some of you guys there....greg...etc..
mjg

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 14:54:46 pst
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i know you're saying to yourselves, who cares about the carpet?  but
i've had a private email, and now a public one, saying how great the
carpet was. uh...ok. we are all entitled to our opinions.  but did you
notice there were two different carpets?  it was the stuff on the stairs
leading to the balcony (with a pattern done in primary, garish colors,
totally at odds with the coral walls) that i thought showed a noticeable
lapse in taste.  (probably chosen by the same person who picked the size
("gargantuan") for the crystal chandelier.  it's the old, "if a little
is good, too much is *just right*" school of decorating.)
unlike ig - always tasteful! ;)
peace-nic

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hi - the list was down for awhile and i'm thinking i must have missed
the forwarded stuff posted in melissa's "too bad i left too soon"
message.  there was stuff at the bottom from chiquita (i believe) but i
never saw the original post on this.  if someone has it, can you forward
to me?  i'm still hoping for a real set list from somebody who had a
pencil.  btw, nobody should feel bad about correcting my song list.  i
warned you guys that i was winging it, and had fairly serious doubts
about its correctness, and was almost certain i'd left off at least one
song.
nic

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jonisnot cyr said"who needs the enticement of beer when you have fudge on
a frisbee?  now i
ask you!

you mayhave had fudge..but we had me!!!!!!!
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah..talk about quality(so i've
been told...i keep tellin ya sus..wait till jan ;) ))

then the queen o cheese said
"***** damn, i thought the baigl contingent was huge, but we can't even
compete
with hundreds. unless of course you count those of us with multiple
personalities (stoptalkingtheyaregoingtoseeyoushuttupstupid)

oooohhhhh so thats what wrong with ya'll been trin' to figger it out...

"love to you, flamer

sus..."
try as you like toots..but he loves me best(sorry dee and deb..he
whispered it in my ear...heh heh heh)

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 17:20:11 -0600
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okay i am ready to host my own pity party here....here we are in texas freezing our hinnies off, no ig for a long time, no snow to amuse our children, no domestic partner benefits at any university in the state, rednecks, and no ig!!!....and there you are, in the rest of the world with all this ig stuff...whine whine cry cry..... (all these things seem unrelated to each other but what they have in common is that they are really bugging me right now!)

so is there anybody out there who got :
a) a clear boot of an entire concert they played recently (within the last two months)
b) with romeo and juliet, cut it out, and redemption song on it, and
c) is willing to trade with poor ole me?

i have blanks, cash and some unusual indian music (from india, not american indian) to trade in return including a fusion tape that has western and indian music mixed in-feel safe in offering this here because you can't really buy this cd in this country easily.

pretty please with sugar on top?

oh btw, on an ani difranco note....i saw her last night and she mentioned something about alana davis (sp.?) "totally like f**cking up one of my songs..." any one care to fill me in?

those dfw-ers who didn't go...you missed your chance to get lung cancer and to get high for free!!!(gag city! i am still choking)!

dr. urvashi pitre

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okay i am ready to host my own pity party here....here we are in texas freezing our hinnies off, no ig for a long time, no snow to amuse our children, no domestic partner benefits at any university in the state, rednecks, and no ig!!!....and there you are, in the rest of the world with all this ig stuff...whine whine cry cry..... (all these things seem unrelated to each other but what they have in common is that they are really bugging me right now!)

so is there anybody out there who got :
a) a clear boot of an entire concert they played recently
b) with romeo and juliet, cut it out, and redemption song on it, and
c) is willing to trade with poor ole me?

i have blanks, cash and some unusual indian music (from india, not american indian) to trade in return including a fusion tape that has western and indian music mixed in-feel safe in offering this here because you can't really buy this cd in this country easily.

pretty please with sugar on top?

oh btw, on an ani difranco note....i saw her last night and see mentioned something about alana davis (sp.?) "totally like f**cking up one of my songs..." any one care to fill me in? those dfw-ers who didn't go...you missed your chance to get lung cancer and to get high for free...gag city!!!

dr. urvashi pitre

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 17:57:28 cst
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hi.  i'm kinda new to the list, so that's why you don't recognize my
name.  last night's chicago show was my first time seeing them.  i'm
really sad (to tears!) that we didn't stay afterword.  we were going
to...  we've met tori amos several times because we're stayers.  but to
the list...  my roommate and i both wrote it down as it happened, so
here's what we all got to see:
shame on you
least complicated
three hits
power of two
don't give that girl a gun
get out the map
shed your skin
love will come to you
tried to be true
help me make it through the night (an old country song my dad used to
play, but this may not be the name.  if you know it, i'd really
appreciate knowing, since i keep setlist copies of all the shows i
attend.)
scooter boys
it's alright
leeds
chickenman
galileo
(encore)
hey kind friend
here i am (is this the name???  i think i know this song, but i'm not
sure.)
closer to fine

it seemed pretty short, especially after seeing sarah mclachlan do 25
songs last weekend, but it was the most fun i've ever had at a concert.
and, if you know the names of those two covers, please let me know
because i could have botched that up.
for those of you going to chicago tonight, have a great time.  if you
get to see ghost and romeo and juliet, i'll cry and be sad that i didn't
skip my classes today and go to both shows.

teryn


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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 19:27:40 -0500
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subject:      welcome michelle hagan!!!

hey y'all,

please welcome my buddy, fellow louisvillian and longtime ig fan, michelle
hagan, to the list!  she's lurking out there somewhere so be nice to her....

bonnie

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 19:43:47 est
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subject:      chicago 11/16/97

does anyone have a boot of this concert?  i'm really really really
interested in getting this boot because i loved the concert and i'd give
my first born for a boot of the concert.  it was incredible....

if anyone has any info on getting  a boot please please let me know

my email is raynbow21@juno.com....

thanks
deana

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 20:07:19 est
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subject:      concerts

i was blindly deleting mail when i deleted something i wanted to read.
so, if anyone can fill me in on any other concerts appearing in the ia,
oh, il, mi, ms, tn or that area please please let me know.  i should be
more careful when deleting.  sorry for the inconviencence.  but thanks in
advance.

peace and all things indigo
dee

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so, i fully wimped out and missed out on what sounds like it was a way fun
list gathering. anyway- i enjoyed the show, though my literally second to
last row tickets(they should have reserved good seats for those of us who
observed yom kippur) definitely detracted from my performance. i was stuck
with all the people who only stood up for galileo, shame on you, and closer
to fine. afew brave souls even knew power of two, which is a more beautiful
song than i ever realized. these people did not know a single word to tried
to be true. depressing!!!

love will come to you made my life. it saved my life in ninth grade(teen
angst and all that), and i had always wanted to hear it live.

strange fire and pushing the needle were not played- nothing from strange
fire or nomads, as i can remember.

anyway- everyone has taken care of the reviews. i know that i am going to
regret not going to both shows. grrr.

sari

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like some days you might say something stupid, and that's the part of you
that's still ten. or maybe some days you might need to sit on your mama's
lap because you're scared, and that's the part of you that's five. and
maybe one day when you're all grown up maybe you will need to cry like if
you're three, and that's okay.
                -sandra cisneros

sari laufer
northwestern university
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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 20:28:32 -0800
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hey y'all...

joining the list of "pity party" people making mixes...
so...if anyone especially wants to feel it a little more and doesn't want
to take the time to make a mix (it's taking me forever), let me know if and
i'll hook ya up with my monkey madness (sadness) mix...

no one is to blame (it's an 80's song, but i love it)
when i was a boy- dar williams (yeah)
a case of you- tori amos doing joni mitchell (amazing)
i will remember you -sarah mclachlan (tears...)
kid fears-you know :)
talk to me now-ani difranco
dear god-sarah
the babysitters here-dar (makes ya smile, no matter what)
you can sleep while i drive - melissa etheridge
the promise-tracy chapman
me by the sea-eddie brickell

side two
you left it up to me-(anyone going through this break-up shit knows this song)
in love but not at peace-dar
possession-sarah
independent love song-from bed of roses soundtrack
don't give that girl a gun-"she *still* don't hear me anymore" agh
i am not-melissa ferrick (amazing song)
you had time-ani (damn...)
are you out there-dar
southland in the springtime-yeah, yeah, yeah
last dance-sarah (instrumental, makes me cry every time i hear it)

well...that it...i obviously don't want to start reading moby dick for
american literature, it just might kill me...

and i've become a stalker...a friend and i are going to drive back to
rosemont (it's only a half hour) to wait for them to come out...i have a
life, i swear...but, how many other nights are the girls going to be in my
city?...that's what i thought...

peace y'all
~melissa

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 21:46:34 -0400
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this makes me so sad and mad------------->

> i met da girls!!!! woooohooooo!!!!! (said in my lovely southside chicago
> accent)
> it took a while, but when the crew
> and dave ellison and sulli came out, we all kinda gathered around the
> backstage door.  there were a few of us...
> then, ms. amy "i'm about 5'7 tall" ray came out and we all went buckwild.
> :)  she was in a rush to get on the bus so she apologized for not stopping
> for autographs and stuff.  but before she could hop on the bus, i handed
> her my kickass bart simpson action figure and told her to take care of him
> for me...she says "oh cool! i love the simpsons!!!!"  then she says thanks,
> and bye and hops on da bus.  off they go.
> the security guy sticks his head out da door and sez, "hey you guys come in
> here, qwik!"  so we marched in like da man said.  i walk in first...and
> there's em walking towards us with a big smile.  <insert warm fuzzie
> feelings here>  em couldnt believe we waited outside in the cold (folks, it
> was really really cold last nite).  i asked for a hug, and i got one.
> emily is a great hugger, i highly recommend getting bearhugged by her :) :)
> :)  (its a nice way to warm up too <g>) so everyone got a hug, coupla'
> pictures and an autograph.  oh yeah, i gave emily my stuffed teddy bear
> charlie :)  she put it in her pocket and charlie's head stuck outta her
> pocket...it was a another warm fuzzy moment for me :)  well, then we kinda
> said our thank yous and goodbyes and parted ways.  i requested ghost for
> tonite show before i walked out the door...she said "sure!"
i am sorry, but i am insanely unbelievably jealous.  every single damn
concert i've been to, i've been among the small but dedicated throng who
waited outside after the show to try to even catch a glimpse of them.  do
you know how freakin cold it was in dayton sat. night?  my
nearly-frostbitten fingers can attest to the temperature.  we were
absolutely frozen.  we were polite.  we were unobstructing the buses, etc.
we were non-threatening.  and we were told by the guard, "the girls said
they ain't coming out...they may change their minds--probably not--but as
of now, they ain't coming off the bus to see ya."
this has happened to me every single time i've seen them.
i know they *love* chicago so much, but it's not fair to hold the fans
accountable for the darn cities they happen to have close proximity to.
amy called cleveland the place with the burning river or something to that
effect.  fine, she doesn't like the city.  but why the fans?  what did we
ever do to them that they never ever come out of their fancy schmancy tour
bus and just acknowledge our presence?  i'm really hurt and  insulted and
i don't mean to sound or be so angry, but i can't help it.  it's like
going into a candy store (as a kid) with your best friend, and the
storekeeper lets your friend have some free ice cream, but makes you pay
for yours.  ya know what i mean?  unfair, unnecessary, and just plain
sucky to be on the losing end of the deal.
has *anyone* out there ever *not* been given the chance to meet them?
cause all i hear about is the lucky ones who get to meet them again and
again.  i'm wondering when my chance will come.
trying to calm down, (yeah i'm in a bad mood to begin with and will
probably apologize later for attacking my beloved women like this, as well
as y'all),
jill

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 22:19:45 -0500
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date: mon, 17 nov 1997 22:17:43 -0500
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i attended the atlanta local music awards on saturday night.  i wanted
to share just a few highlights of the evening.  first of all, lift
performed a two song set (everyone did just 2 songs) and they were
fabulous.  after the set, molly and simone came out into the audience to
watch other performers.  i asked them if they were opening for the girls
on the 25 or 26th?  they are sad to say that they are not performing and
they don't have a clue as to who it will be.  (unfortunately, julie was
no where to be found, i really wanted to meet her...;)neither was dave)
     daemon was nominated for best independent atlanta label.  i
screamed along with molly and simone. (the host, steve craig from the
local show on 99x heard us.  then he says, "seems like we have some amy
fans in the audience".  of course i couldn't control myself and had to
scream again....getting very weird looks from m&s)  daemon lost out to
the ichibon label.  the girls were also nominated for best signed ga
artist. (more screaming from me and more weird looks from m&s) they lost
to stuck mojo???? oh well!!!  maybe next year...marsha

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date:         mon, 17 nov 1997 23:19:03 pst
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here's a reminder for anyone interested...we are meeting at mokabe's between 6 and 6:30 pm before the show november 22.
some are going after the show also.

mokabe's
3606 arsenal

phone (314) 865-2009

be there!

toye

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 00:03:04 -0500
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        >don't feel like going out, tracking down and buying the 30 or
more
        >cd's the girls have contributed one song to but are still
interested
        >in hearing all of them?  fear not, mooch off of some obsessive
        >fan who already has!  i have compiled and compacted this
collection
        >from 14 cds of various tributes and cooperations that the girls
        >were involved in. you can also consider this tape a sampler of
        >friends of the girls, many of who have been mentioned on this
list.
        >set list:

has the list ever tried to compile everything they've played on? there's
so much good music that could be added if this were an endless tape...
i would add
-viva la diva, "when you're ready" with amy doing backup.
-michelle malone, "all my lifetime"
for starters. i had about ten other songs in my head a second ago, but
they bailed...i'm sure they're hiding somewhere on my floor amid the
papers and the rubble, if only i could find them...or the floor...

sarah (a paper a day keeps midterms here to stay...i don't think they
should be called midterms when the semester is almost over...whatever
they are, i still have another one to write tonight, so i'm glad i have
e-mail to keep me busy)
spinsker@goucher.edu

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 00:16:33 -0500
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subject:      re: soy question

in a message dated 97-11-16 23:39:42 est, sngofsth writes:

<< < in soy, ar does name the specific place at the end of the song: "up in
  gainesville town."

  gainesville, ga is about 50 miles northeast of atlanta.

  it has a significant immigrant population because its local industry has
  a lot of low-paying, low-skill, unpleasant jobs (the kind that most
  "white folks" would rather not do). >>

i saw this post and had to respond.  i live near gainesville, ga.  and the
fact remains that the aforementioned low-paying, low-skilled, unpleasant jobs
purportedly not wanted by white folks in gainesville do exist.  gainesville
has a largely agrarian based economy...a rarity in 1997.  and there are alot
of hispanic persons employed in gainesville's chicken plants.  but the reason
white folks do not work at these plants (which, btw, they often times do) is
not that they feel above the jobs.  undocumented hispanic persons will work
cheaper, harder, and with virtually no demands.  so employers hire these
workers. it is not an issue of color, but rather one of employment and
immigration laws.  american citizens bring to jobs a set and complex code of
civil rights, the right to organize and assemble a union (an employer's
favorite) :), wage and labor demands, and other types of complications (from
an unethical employers' view).  so, please do not play the race card.  for,
it is not an issue of race.  caucasian americans do not work in chicken
plants (in some instances) because undocumented illegal persons are hired
more quickly for reasons listed above.  after all, those same "white folk"
who would be candidates for gainesville's low-skilled, low-paying jobs are
not going to be much better off, based on their experience and standards,
seeking gainful employment in other areas.   amy was smart to use gainesville
as an example, though, because (imho) if the immigration problems and
tensions aren't solved soon, we are going to lose many wonderful small towns
in the us.
sorry for the bw....hope i haven't offended anyone.  just trying to shed some
light on the problems here and her mention of them in the song.
:)

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 00:34:38 -0400
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subject:      re: ani and alana davis
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on mon, 17 nov 1997, dr. urvashi pitre wrote:
> oh btw, on an ani difranco note....
> i saw her last night and she mentioned something about alana davis
>(sp.?)
>"totally like f**cking up one of my songs..." any one care to fill me in?

that davis chick did a cover or 32 flavors, i believe.  the folks on the
nadc garden list (some underground, unofficial ani list) were really
worked up about it, because she dared to touch one of the goddess' songs.
and in the liner notes of the cd, the fine print identifying ani as the
original artist is so very *fine* that it's hard to find it--seems like
alana's trying to take credit for it.  tha' weenie.
jill

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 00:48:12 -0500
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yes, kris mckay plays around texas for the most part.....austin, to be
specific.  i saw that show where she opened for the indigo's at "the
backyard" and when she played solo for the 1st annual songwriters festival in
austin at "la zona rosa".   good gig for her, although it was terribly
empty....very poorly publicized.  you guys should all listen to something of
kris' - she really is cool...and funny as hell, too!

~llm

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 01:17:30 -0400
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on sun, 16 nov 1997, marivel danielson wrote:
> > > ps. did anyone find out what the fish and snowflake shirt means? i mean,
> > > i bought one anyway :)  but it'd be nice to know.   thank ya!
> >
> > ask lisa s. and don richard's granddaughter deidre to explain it to ya...
> > jill
>
> come on, share!  i asked amy in geneseo (i think.  that whole weekend's still

okay, here's the explanation i heard:  (i could be wrong, you may have to
dbl-check with don)
it's a fish
pretending to be a dolphin
(that's why it's flying)
and the snowflake
came from the sun
(that's why it's orange).

aahh i can't remember!  deidre help me!  don, ask her what it was again.
that kid's an oracle, i swear.
jill

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 01:25:27 -0400
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subject:      re: chicago chicago--what a wonderful town....
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on mon, 17 nov 1997, greg flamer wrote:
> valet thing.  corolla shows up.  now get this.  amy is the friggin
> valet!!!!  guess they are trying to cut down on labor cost.  well we tipped
> amy like 10 bucks.  margaret didn't really want to let amy out of the car

wait, are we talkin', like, the amy?  as in my beautiful lesbian goddess?
she was your freaking valet?  you've got to be kidding me, or retelling
one of your dreams or something...
please clarify!
jill
no way!

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 00:39:29 -0600
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i second the post about kris mckay.  i see her every time she plays
waterloo icehouse in austin.  she's wonderful, talented, funny and
beautiful.  we really have a good time at her concerts, and everyone
should go buy her cd things that show.  i mean, she toured for a little
bit with the goddesses, she must be something special, right?

** end of deserving mckay cd plug **

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                a messy kind of make it up as you go along.  i need a
                        silence full of nothing.  i need to love without
                                trying, without trying to be loving."
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just when you thought you had heard enough chatter about the chicago show
yet another show takes place and yet more reviewing is in order!!!  i would
have to say that monday eve's show was better better better.  that may be
because i was in the front row of course :).

just how close were greg, alycia and margaret to the stage.  ok our tickets
said orchestra pit row 1.  shoulda read emily's arm-pits.  i mean we were
directly under them.  how close you ask?  so close that my fashion report
would talk about their shoes.  emily wore beat up shitkickers.  amy wore
beat up shitkickers.  kelly hogan appeared to have on black orthopedic
shoes.  sure there's a story there somewhere.  emily wore a rage against
the machines shirt and amy wore her usual flower shirt which could have
doubled for my grandma's curtains or tablecloth but oh well.  so close were
we that i could easily tell that amy just stepped of supercuts and when she
clearly should have gone to some trendy hair salon in skokie.  bad short
hair.  bad bad bad.

we actually had 4th row seats which would have certainly sufficed.  but
some people in row 1 were right behind the speaker and traded with us.
they actually did not want to be behind the speaker.  i don't get it
either. ok so i'm currently deaf but well worth it.  so that put us in the
front row.  any big ig fan must experience this at some point.  i mean it.
after 17 shows, this was the best for me.  i mean they were right there
within reach. (deb--yet another amazing ig experience where you are not
present with me--what is that!?)

btw--security at this show as far as booting goes was non existant.  no i
don't have a boot before you ask.   but i could have smuggled my mazda
under my coat and no one would have given a hoot.  i mean the security
guard actually moved to allow people to take photos.  and i also liked the
comedy /tragedy cheesy carpeting.  i thought it was trendy.

ok--the show.  sorry deb but again i do not have the setlist and will not
attempt to recall songs in random order.  girls were once again very peppy.
they were clearly peppier tonight because they saw that i was in the front
row.  :)  but anyway, opened with a little secure yourself which was great.
another first time live song for me.  my highlight was definitely when amy
was playing cut it out and suddenly segues right into down by the river.
it was awesome.  they also played tangled up in blue to which the girl
behind me had an orgasm.  i am not joking (brother).  she was on the floor
convulsing.  been years since i'd seen a girl do that :).  they did the
same two songs with kelly hogan again.  but the evening was
uncharacteristically upbeat.  the other night we were saying after don't
give that girl a gun that amy needs therapy :).  i thought the same after
cut it out.  there's emotion in them there songs y'all!  but i mean most of
the songs played were singalongs.  i sat down like twice--for leeds and for
cut it out.  emily even commented on how the setlist was upbeat.  more
comments were made about their love for chicago of course.  i was so
naturally high from our seats that i honestly don't recall any other fun
chatty comments made.  they rocked as always.  just an unbelievable
experience to see them so close.

got to share the fun with marcy (formerly known as mjg ).  thanks for the
pick!!  oh sue kwan--sorry i missed you in the lobby.  i did look.  email
me and we'll work out tape arrangements.  thanks again to all listies from
last night who came by.  joni and susie cheese--i'll take beer over frisbee
fudge anyday.  as far as having people over at my house.  get lost!  i
don't want you crazy nuts in my house ;-) ;-).  glad you all approved of
the beau.  you can email him and tell him you liked him yourself--his addy
is:  ithinknot@whatever.org  oh and final piece of personal
business---pooh-don't be too heartbroken but ms reiser and i have been
married for years now (ok sherlyn you did not read that).  i know that puts
an abrupt end to the debate.  so both you and dee are dear dear friends.
but my heart will always be with deb.  please don't cry ;-)  i still love
you both as friends.

to close out a perfect night, i was driving home solo.  i stopped to ask
the guy directing traffic out of the lot (i wasn't about to do valet again
by myself) how to get back onto 90.  sure enough, there's emily in full
flagger gear holding her jedi knight light saver shoo-ing me up the road.
she was actually pretty rude and impatient spewing out something about it
being cold and she has to get back on the bus (y'all).  but she did point
me in the right direction.  i personally thought a little more courtesy was
in order considering i sang every line to every song at the top of my lungs
directly at her feet a few moments earlier!!  i never!

until milwaukee in december--have a good one y'all!!!!

flamer

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subject:      re: punk cover of "closer to fine"?

i have the cover of this song.  it's by sicko, and it's hilarious! :)
check it out sometime.
~x

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last night's concert on the 17th was awesome, but in comparing the set
lists of the 16th and 17th, i think the 16th sounds sooo damn cool.  but
so was the 17th show.

anyway, my friends bought the new shirts that are black and longsleeved
with the fish and snowflake? on the front of it.  i was wondering what
was the symbolic meaning of the design??

anyone got any ideas?

thanks.

eve.

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deb reiser, me and pinky did this especially for you...

<ahem>  here goes...

secure yourself (yeaaaaaaahhh! what a great opener!)
galileo
land o cannan (wow)
caramia
shame on you
hammer and a nail <woohooo!  i think they had something different on the
official setlist cuz they had a huddle to discuss this song..)
scooter boyzzzz (with dave on harmonica)
tangled up in indigo, (er, i mean blue)
joking
"--------" that country tune that kelly hogan sings with them
get out da map
shaed yer skin
leeds
cut it out ----->>>>>>transforms into a slow version of doowwwn by da river
least complicated
---encore---
"here i am" ???  (i dunno the name but thats the chorus.  kelly hogan and
emily sings)
chickendude with dave ellison in harmonyyyyca
closer to fine (kelly hogan brings out her cute doggie, danielle sings
"stopped by the bar" verse and doesnt fuck it up this time -- last nite she
sang 4 am instaed of 3am)  :)

well, i'm not gonna do a long revue becuase i have had 2 hours of sleep
within the last 48 hours.
but, i must say that this show also rocked.  :)  but sunday's was slightly
better :) :)  they werent that talkative today...

ok.  someone tuck me in.  nite nite.
---sue (who seriously needs massage from all the dancing she's done)

p.s. was it just me or was this concert shorter than sunday's???

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subject:      chicago stuff (long...sit down, take a seat)

chicago once again, a fairy tale....
  i swear i couldn't be any closer to both emily & amy than i was tonight
(that's excluding the time i've met them.)  i leaned on the stage throughout
the concert. i couldn't move around or sing etc since i had a microphone
clipped onto my shirt collar :(   1st row center orchestra pit seats...it was
so unbelievable that i was seriously speechless for the first 3 songs. come
on greg...tell them !!  was it incredible or what?  it was like a dream, like
i was standing at heavens gates.  now keep in mind i've had 1st row center
orchestra pit seats before, but that wasn't in illinois, my own home town,,,
blah, blah, blah...at the end of the concert i asked emily for a guitar pick
and she leaned down and handed it to me.  emily was very sweet about it, then
she asked my roommate if she'd like one too then finally the girl next to my
roommate. after the girls left the stage, this nice stage hand handed me
emily's set list.  what a night...last night i also got a guitar pick & my
roommate got the set list.  tonight again, set list and guitar pick. i
bootlegged/taped both concerts, i have to transfer them. tonight's concert i
have all except the last 5 songs. i couldn't switch tapes since the security
guard was right there, that was the only downfall about being so close!   i
will let the list know when i have the tapes transferred, does anyone know
much about transferring micro-cassette tapes to regular audio tapes?  i
started trasferring them but the quality isn't what i'd like. i was
considering finding a professional to do it...hmmm anyone know where to find
a professional?
if so email me, we'll talk...thanks for letting me ramble...hope everyone
else who was there enjoyed the moment too.  ]
missed seeing you there tonight pooh...

mj

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subject:      re: kris mckay

she opened here for kd last year. she is a local to austin and plays here in
the local clubs and restaraunts. very good singer. not a good performer in my
opinion. talks too much and screws up alot. but hey her voice is one in a
million.

michelle

in a message dated 97-11-18 00:18:01 est, poprckgrrl@aol.com writes:

<< this cd of kris' is so old...she doesn't sound like that (country or
whatever) anymore...her last cd "things that show" is really really really
good...and not very country sounding at all..i'm not sure if i should be
offended or not..kris mckay is an incredible performer...she usually gets
stuck opening for people and only plays solo in and around texas for the
most
part..the last time i saw her live was in august of 96 opening at the
backyard for a&e...and it was amazing...
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subject:      re: ani and alana davis

sometimes covers are ok...(like when ska bands cover duran duran) the songs
can end up better than they were before...but an ani song!  that is blasphemy
if you ask me...especially since alana hardly gives ani creidt and suppsoedly
this alana song is getting airplay when ani doesn't and should! it makes me
sick to think about some stupid wannabe taking an awesome song from a goddess
and *&$%ing it all up :(        ok...i think i'm done raging now....


oh yeah where can i get on that ani list...i tried to go through the normal
routes and they are not letting any new subscribers on...

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vanity fair
december issue
page266-267


whew.......

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i took all of my ig cd's and put them into .mp3 format.  now
i have a single cd (that a friend of mind made for me) that has
all of their cd's on it, well the commercial ones anyway.  i
just pop it in, load winamp and am a happy ig camper.eheheh
i can shuffle from disc to disc, live to studio, etc.  it's
the way ig music should be heard, felt and soufully felt.

    ig, sf, rop, so, nis, botby, 1200c, sots

nothing like going from hammer and a nail to live galileo. :)

- rick

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>chiquita sue <skwan@midway.uchicago.edu>
>wrote, among many other things:

>>i met da girls!!!! woooohooooo!!!!!
>>okay, lets fastforward to after the show.  it is nasty cold in chicago
>>(brrrrrrrrrr).....

>>the security guy sticks his head out da door and sez, "hey you guys come in
>>here, qwik!"  so we marched in like da man said.  i walk in first...and
>>there's em walking towards us with a big smile.  <insert warm fuzzie
>>feelings here>  em couldnt believe we waited outside in the cold (folks, it
>>was really really cold last nite).

hey, hey, lifes's not fair! we were robbed!  me and kirby
<indigo95@hotmail.com> (hi kirby!)and 3 of my non-list friends waited
outside dayton until almost 1am.  everyone else left when the 1st bus pulled
out, but we were convinced that a was still inside.  yeah sulli was great,
and of course dave's a putz, but...it was *cold*...it was *late*...we were
pitiful...where's my warm fuzzy story? where's the pink frosting?
;o) lisa


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>that davis chick did a cover or 32 flavors, i believe.  the folks on the
>nadc garden list (some underground, unofficial ani list) were really
>worked up about it, because she dared to touch one of the goddess' songs.

that song is just called flavors.  :)  i'm a fan to ani second only to
ig.  i saw her concert at university of michigan and she seemed really
pissed at several things.  she went on about how interviewers kept asking
her about her relationship with a man and if that was a conscious message
to the dyke community.  she then compared that question to her putting
boots on right foot first and if that was a conscious message to her left
foot, etc.  she really came across different than i had seen her in the past.
it was like people were not giving her the respect she felt she deserved
for just falling in love, be it with a man or woman.  my heart really went
out to her.  she played a really really short set too.  i'm guessing that
was why.  it might've also been because she had a substitute bassist.

>and in the liner notes of the cd, the fine print identifying ani as the
>original artist is so very *fine* that it's hard to find it--seems like
>alana's trying to take credit for it.  tha' weenie.

i don't think there's another artist that could do justice to ani's songs.
i'm not a really great vocalist but i can keep up with ig style pretty well.
i might not hit every note, but i'm in the general vicinity. hehehe  with
ani's stuff, because of her enormous inflection and subtle pauses and stuff,
it's almost impossible to sing any song, except the songs like every state
line or shameless, etc.  try singing fire door and hitting every pause, rise
and fall.  she'll lose you everytime.  hehehe :)

- rick

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so, jill, ya' mean deidre is relating the snowflake to the oj commercial in
gotm?
<g> lisa

>jill certo <jillian.certo@oberlin.edu> replied to

marivel danielson's query:
>> > > ps. did anyone find out what the fish and snowflake shirt means?

>it's a fish
>pretending to be a dolphin
>(that's why it's flying)
>and the snowflake
>came from the sun
>(that's why it's orange).


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greg,,whatever his name is(afterall it was just one night!!says
> oh and final piece of personal
> business---pooh-don't be too heartbroken but ms reiser and i have been
> married for years now (ok sherlyn you did not read that).  i know that puts
> an abrupt end to the debate.  so both you and dee are dear dear friends.
> but my heart will always be with deb.  please don't cry ;-)  i still love
> you both as friends.


haarumph!!
fine..just fine..you weren't my type anyway..i was just taking pity on
you..so there,,,pbltttttttt

oh chaquita???heh heh heh

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hey!

all this talk about listmeets makes me wonder...is there anyone else on
the list who is  going to the madison show at the oscar meyer theatre?

if so, let me know...maybe we can get together to say "hey" before the
show.  if not, i'll just make a sign for myself, look for it and then be
glad to meet myself.

jus' wonderin'

scott

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subject:      i wish i were annie difranko!!

--- you wrote:
oh btw, on an ani difranco note....i saw her last night and she mentioned
something about alana davis (sp.?) "totally like f**cking up one of my
songs..." any one care to fill me in?
--- end of quote ---
here's the deal a meal:

this chyck alanna davis was signed by warner (i think) to be the "mainstream
ani difranco"...and on her album which sucks megaweenies (total elevator music
with a backbeat, imho), she covers "32 flavors".

it's totally mortifying! the first time i heard it on the cheesy album rock
station here in blue hamster i practically drove off the road in fits of
gagging and spewing. it's so gross...she does all this talking in the
background and stuff, and all this uh-huh-huh rappism (and yes... i happen to
like rap, so that is neither a racist nor a folkist statement!)

anyhoo, that's the deal. i can't believe this chyck was actually able to buy
the rights to cover the song...how duz zat work?

sus

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sus said...

> this chyck alanna davis was signed by warner (i think) to be the "mainstream
> ani difranco"...and on her album which sucks megaweenies (total elevator music
> with a backbeat, imho), she covers "32 flavors".
>
> it's totally mortifying! the first time i heard it on the cheesy album rock
> station here in blue hamster i practically drove off the road in fits of
> gagging and spewing. it's so gross...she does all this talking in the
> background and stuff, and all this uh-huh-huh rappism (and yes... i happen to
> like rap, so that is neither a racist nor a folkist statement!)

***i saw her on tv sunday morning singing 32 flavors. i had to keep
flipping back to her cause im like i know    that song...and who the
hell is this chick trying to destroy it?!?!
  it was evil

~lynda

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annie difazzio will be on pbs's "on tour" program on january 3, 1998.  i
know its early to tell you that, but i always ferget and hopefully someone
on this list will remind me when it happens.  :p

she will be showcased for the first half hour.  the latter half will be
showcasing "tricky" (ummm...who?? -- i'd rather they give me a full hour o'
ani)

--s
p.s.  pooh, i'm sorry you got dumped by flamer.  :*(

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she will also be on sessions at west 54th, sometime in january...

mike r. , the old geezer who just turned 24...

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all right y'all....
you think you're good up there?
how about all of us from down home atlanta (or somewhere within a 200 mile
radius of it) show them up??  anyone interested???

susan b. marine.....say your prayers.... ;)

*maniacalhideousstraightoutofanedgarallenpoemovielaugh*

...the *other* sue

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susan.e.harney wrote:
>
> all right y'all....
> you think you're good up there?
> how about all of us from down home atlanta (or somewhere within a 200 mile
> radius of it) show them up??  anyone interested???

talk to us when you've distributed yer own group bootleg


> susan b. marine.....say your prayers.... ;)

hmmm them sounds like fight'n words....  =)

>
> *maniacalhideousstraightoutofanedgarallenpoemovielaugh*
>
> ...the *other* sue

  god help us all if there really is another sue!!!


~lyn

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hi all :-)

how long is the lilith fair show on vh1? i don't have a tv guide and i need
to know how long to set my vcr tonight. is it an hour?

                                        -heather

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sarah pinsker <spinsker@goucher.edu> asked:
>has the list ever tried to compile everything they've played on?

steve clark's excellent ig discography
<http://www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls>
was just updated august 14, and has a huge list of compilations that ig can be
found on, as well as guest appearances on albums.

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michelle reeves <mreeves74@aol.com> wrote:
>i'm working on a web page and went to a site to help with sound on a new web
>building software i'm using. this is what was said and i'm curious if this
>means all of us that have a wav of melissa or indigo girls singing are
>operating illegally.

my understanding from working with laura love's representative at mercury is
that sound clips are illegal unless you have a contract with the record
company to have them.  does anyone know if the concept of "fair use" which
applies to using excerpts of written materials also applies to audio clips?

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karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net> wrote:
[re: next year's lilith fair]

>rap???  sarah, you've got to be joking.

lf came under a lot of criticism for calling itself a women's music festival
but focusing on the quieter, more radio-friendly genres.  i'm glad they'll be
diversifying next year even if it means that i won't like nearly every artist
on the bill as i did this year.

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jill certo <jillian.certo@oberlin.edu> wrote:
>this has happened to me every single time i've seen them.
>i know they *love* chicago so much, but it's not fair to hold the fans
>accountable for the darn cities they happen to have close proximity to.
>amy called cleveland the place with the burning river or something to that
>effect.  fine, she doesn't like the city.  but why the fans?  what did we
>ever do to them that they never ever come out of their fancy schmancy tour
>bus and just acknowledge our presence?

well, first of all, it's hard to feel sorry for you since you crashed in
backstage before the show and then proceeded to bad-mouth dave ellison for
doing his job and getting you out of there.  not to mention the fact that you
decided to crash the front rows in front of people who bought better seats
than you did.  but those rude and selfish acts aside, amy and emily's job is
to make good music, in the studio, on the stage, wherever they care to do it.
they are not obligated to personally greet every major fan, and they couldn't
if they wanted to.  they do, however, give fans a lot of opportunities to meet
them; the hte meet-and-greets, the hte action card collections, and the recent
book signing come immediately to mind.  hardly a week goes by without someone
posting to this list about meeting them, so clearly they're very accessible,
even if you personally have had bad luck. perhaps you can be less angry if you
appreciate what they give you, rather than what they don't.

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on tue, 18 nov 1997, greg flamer wrote:
> to close out a perfect night, i was driving home solo.  i stopped to ask
> the guy directing traffic out of the lot (i wasn't about to do valet again
> by myself) how to get back onto 90.  sure enough, there's emily in full
> flagger gear holding her jedi knight light saver shoo-ing me up the road.
> she was actually pretty rude and impatient spewing out something about it
> being cold and she has to get back on the bus (y'all).  but she did point
> me in the right direction.  i personally thought a little more courtesy was
> in order considering i sang every line to every song at the top of my lungs
> directly at her feet a few moments earlier!!  i never!
please please tell me you were only joking, brother, when you posted this!
what tha' heck?  weren't you the one who said *amy* was your valet the day
before?!  what's up with this?  they allow themselves to get that close to
the fans without a troop of security guards flanking them?  why why why
has this never ever ever ever happened to me (yes i'm whining, yes i'm
shouting, i like to shout) and how does this happen to you?  why?  why?
why? (my impression of a 2-yr. 0ld.)  this is so randomly nutty and
impossible that i can't believe it!  aaaaauuugggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!.
thank you for letting me get that out.
jill

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on tue, 18 nov 1997, lisa tatonetti wrote:
> hey, hey, lifes's not fair! we were robbed!  me and kirby
> <indigo95@hotmail.com> (hi kirby!)and 3 of my non-list friends waited
> outside dayton until almost 1am.  everyone else left when the 1st bus pulled
> out, but we were convinced that a was still inside.  yeah sulli was great,
> and of course dave's a putz, but...it was *cold*...it was *late*...we were
> pitiful...where's my warm fuzzy story? where's the pink frosting?
> ;o) lisa
i'm right there with ya' babe.
pissed in oberlin,
jill
i wanna can of pink frosting.  amy flavored.  hee hee.

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>this makes me so sad and mad------------->
>i am sorry, but i am insanely unbelievably jealous.  every single damn
>concert i've been to, i've been among the small but dedicated throng who
>waited outside after the show to try to even catch a glimpse of them.  do
>you know how freakin cold it was in dayton sat. night?  my
>nearly-frostbitten fingers can attest to the temperature.  we were
>absolutely frozen.  we were polite.  we were unobstructing the buses, etc.
>we were non-threatening.  and we were told by the guard, "the girls said
>they ain't coming out...they may change their minds--probably not--but as
>of now, they ain't coming off the bus to see ya."
>this has happened to me every single time i've seen them.

i think many people on this list can relate to your frustration.
however, the reality of the situation is that the indigo girls
commit random acts of kindness directed toward their fans and which
fans are on the receiving end has very little to do with how
"deserving" they are or whether they've "paid their dues".  if you
want to meet them, all you can do is keep trying and hoping to find
yourself in the right place at the right time.

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on tue, 18 nov 1997, lisa tatonetti wrote:
> so, jill, ya' mean deidre is relating the snowflake to the oj commercial in
> gotm?
wha...?  huh...?  an oj commercial in gotm?  duh, i'm lost.
jill

> >it's a fish
> >pretending to be a dolphin
> >(that's why it's flying)
> >and the snowflake
> >came from the sun
> >(that's why it's orange).

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i'm sorry, but isn't 'oscar meyer theatre' just about the funniest name
for a theaatre you've ever heard?
jill

yes, the clothes make the man.
but the woman makes the clothes.
so what does that make the woman?

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all right, all right, deb, no flaming jill.  everything you
mentioned in this post is my fault and i will take the
blame for it.  we were not backstage, we were watching the
sound check and we were not bothering anybody (except maybe
sulli, who doesn't seem to care about being bothered).
dave could have certainly been less rude about it, we were
not hurting anything.  and yes, i was standing in the aisle
in the front row when my seats were not front row.  but
jill's seat was front row and therefore she had every right
to be there.  i don't think my acts were rude and selfish,
i think like most of the fans on this list i just love the
indigo girls and as my birthday present wanted to make this
trip from virginia the best it could possibly could be.
flaming is mean and it makes me sad.  please don't do it
anymore. :(
                              stephanie
>
> well, first of all, it's hard to feel sorry for you since you crashed in
> backstage before the show and then proceeded to bad-mouth dave ellison for
> doing his job and getting you out of there.  not to mention the fact that you
> decided to crash the front rows in front of people who bought better seats
> than you did.  but those rude and selfish acts aside, amy and emily's job is
> to make good music, in the studio, on the stage, wherever
  they care to do it.
>
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and i will not be a pawn
for the prince of darkness any longer"
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subject:      pay per view concert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this dutch girl is desparetly looking for somebody to make her a copy....

somebody please help me, will be forever gratefull!! (also have stuf for trade)


hoping for an answer is:

miriam (with the hat!)
miriam@perfection.nl

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at 12:24 pm 11/18/97 -0400, jill certo wrote:
>i'm sorry, but isn't 'oscar meyer theatre' just about the funniest name
>for a theaatre you've ever heard?

not when the company is headquartered in madison and the family donates a
lot of money to the community!

deb

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woah!!!  that message i sent out an hour ago has already earned me four
flames!!!  calm down!  it's a friendly challenge, ok?   not a personal
attack on anyone from above the mason-dixon line!   i was *not* personally
attacking the badass susan b. marine, either, ok y'all???  geez....sorry
if i offended anyone...

(but we're still gonna show y'all up) ;)

sue

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on tue, 18 nov 1997, deb wrote:
> well, first of all, it's hard to feel sorry for you since you crashed in
> backstage before the show
actually, we didn't *crash* in anywhere.  and it most certainly *wasn't*
backstage!  we came in a door at the very top of the arena.  we slipped
in.  no one saw.  and when we got in there and walked along the very top
(i guess it's the eauivalent to a lobby), the employees who saw us didn't
care.  in fact, *nobody* seemed to care or even give us a second glance
except for dave.  and it was unnecessary for him to freak at that point,
cause we'd *already* seen the girls, and by then, they were god knows
where backstage somewhere.  i didn't hear any crashing shounds, did
you, steph? heh. try
"a door in the nosebleed section", where they did not see us, where we did
not bother them.  inconspicuous.  we didn't come close until the girls
were gone, we didn't want to bother them.
> and then proceeded to bad-mouth dave ellison for
> doing his job and getting you out of there.
actually, we didn't bad-mouth him for getting us out of there (cause he
didn't, we left).  we bad mouthed him for being a pompous ass, which he
is.  he really was utterly nasty to poor little stephanie, who was being
very polite and sweet about the whole thing.  yeah, i *know* that's his
job, but why can't he be a little more, uh, *civil* about the whole thing?
he's a jerk,  or he *was* a jerk, at the time we caught him.  you would've
been insulted to have him belittle you that way.  i've dealt with guards,
etc. who have managed to convey their messge without coming off like that.
> not to mention the fact that you
> decided to crash the front rows in front of people who bought better seats
> than you did.
excuse me?! i *had* front row seats.  no one bought better seats than
i had.  you're thinking we moved to the front row.  no, we moved to
the aisle in the front, which was a whole *1* foot from my chair.  when
the nasty girl from my
row (michelle) migrated to the 8th row, we had another seat there, which i
lovingly gave to stephanie.  again, we didn't *crash* anything or get in
*anyone's* way.  honestly, we didn't.  i love the girls, but i'm not about
to go walking all over people just to get an extra 10 feet closer to them.
that just defeats the whole purpose of the thing--to get closer to
brilliance an beauty-- but doing it by being ugly and nasty?  i don't
think so.
we really weren't acting the way you think we were; i don't know why you
interpreted our actions to be so horrible.
> but those rude and selfish acts aside,
rude?!  selfish?!  we were not in the least rude.  we weren't rude to
dave's face (when he was very much so to us), we asked the people we were
standing by if it was okay that we *stood*, we asked the security guard if
it was okay that we danced in the aisle, we asked, i asked, she asked.
nobody had a problem with our presence there.  i don't think i'm being
selfish when i am *that* concerned with everyone else watching the
concert.  we were not rude and i don't see how i was being selfish.  and
you're being very mean and you've grossly misunderstood our posts.
> perhaps you can be less angry if you
> appreciate what they give you, rather than what they don't.
like i said in a previous post, i'd be posting to apologize for my bad
mood and harsh words.  i've been having a pretty crappy time lately, as
you well know, and everything was upsetting me.  i *do* appreciate how
much they have given me.  it's just very frustrating that i want so badly
to personally thank them for everything and i have not had the chance to,
no matter how hard i try.  you do not know what i think or what i feel;  i
am trying to relate to you that i *do* adore them and didn't mean to
complain like that.  i guess it was more a complaint against fate  and
my bad luck than against the girls.  hope you can see that.  hope you will
save your flames for those who are currently emotionally strong enough to
handle such harsh criticism, cause i can't at the moment, and i'd
appreciate it if you stop.  whatever happened to indigo love?
jill

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do you live in the northeast by anychance?????
heh heh heh

its a joke!!!!!

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in a message dated 11/17/97 11:18:08 pm, jcyr@mit.edu wrote:

<<at 8:41 pm -0400 11/17/97, no name (but it really was pooh!) wrote:
>allright now..so far i have had 11 people( ii..count them!!)
>comment to me..gawd..you don't look nearly as ooooooold as i thought you
>would..(shuddup schulman!)

she is a cocky sunofabitch, isn't she....;o)  >>

hey!!!  i resemble that remark.

<<just because you use a cane doesn't mean you're old...sheesh!  (you know,
they say the sense of humor is one of the first things to go...i said the
sense of humor is one of the first things to go!  ...running...;o) >>

joni, you are such a chickens**t.  afraid of little ol' me?
hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

now y'all quit wasting bandwidth!!!!

dee

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 13:21:51 -0500
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hi everyone...

im not on the list right now, and forgive me because i'm sure its been
posted already, but could someone send me the set list for the u dayton
show from saturday nov 15?  i got to ud, and was at the concert (which
was amazing), but the campus paper in their write-up said that the girls
played "down by the river."  now, i was totally absorbed in the entire
concert, but don't remember them playing that song.  and i was neither
stoned nor drunk.  :-)  so, if someone could send me the set list, or
just confirm for my own sanity if they did or didn't play that song, i
would be eternally greatful.  thanks a ton!

amy k.

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 13:43:39 -0400
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subject:      re: funny venue names
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on tue, 18 nov 1997, deb reiser wrote:

> at 12:24 pm 11/18/97 -0400, jill certo wrote:
> >i'm sorry, but isn't 'oscar meyer theatre' just about the funniest name
> >for a theaatre you've ever heard?
>
> not when the company is headquartered in madison and the family donates a
> lot of money to the community!

ah well, i *still* think it's funny.  ha ha ha.
i'd expect it to be in the shape of a hotdog or something.
jill

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 13:54:02 -0400
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subject:      re: nigc..kinda..but maybe//jill certo?????
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on tue, 18 nov 1997, pooh wrote:
> do you live in the northeast by anychance?????
> heh heh heh
> its a joke!!!!!

:( :( :( :( :() :() :() :()
yeah.
i'm tired and lost.  again.  the northeast is a joke?  what's the joke?
i'm the joke, i know, but there's gotta be another joke out there for me
to joke about.  well, obviously there is a joke, cause you're joking about
some joke, a joke to which i am not privy, and i'm not joking, sister,
when i say that i'm lost on this topic of jokes.  hee.
clarify?  or send the post to which you are replying?  (ya need to explain
real slowly to me, i'm easily confused).
jill

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 13:49:41 -0500
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on tue, 18 nov 1997, you wrote:

> pooh-don't be too heartbroken but ms reiser and i have been married for
> years now (ok sherlyn you did not read that).  i know that puts an
> abrupt end to the debate.  so both you and dee are dear dear friends.
> but my heart will always be with deb.  please don't cry ;-)  i still
> love you both as friends.

so it's true!  amy ray (aka greg flamer) and emily saliers (aka deb
reiser) are "married"!  :)
guess we'd better change the faq.

;)
anna
(it's a joke, people!)

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 14:42:23 -0500
reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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jill and stephanie objected to my disagreement with them...  anyone who's
watched me on the list at all, knows that i don't post things to hurt people.
but i do say what i think when responding to messages, and i offer praise
*and* criticism as i feel are merited.

jill certo wrote:

>hope you will
>save your flames for those who are currently emotionally strong enough to
>handle such harsh criticism,

i have no way of making such distinctions; i expect people to take care of
themselves and leave (or stop participating in) a discussion list if they
can't handle true discussion.

>cause i can't at the moment, and i'd
>appreciate it if you stop.  whatever happened to indigo love?

where did i put that flower that was in my hair... <g>  i'm sorry, but for me,
ig and love have little to do with one another.

that said, i'm sorry i came off as harshly as i did.  but i do think it was
rude and selfish of you to go in an employees only entrance even if you sat
far away and didn't bother anyone (if use binoculars to peer into my neighbors
homes i'm not disturbing anyone either).  and i do think it was rude and
selfish of stephanie to stand in the aisle instead of the seat she paid for.
there are a lot of people who would have liked to have watched the sound check
or to have stood in the first row on the aisle, but they didn't, and there's a
reason (or two) for that.  we'll just have to differ on those issues -- that's
allowed, right?

my primary point (as indicated in the subject i created), and the one i'd like
to move this discussion back toward if it is to continue, is the idea that ig
owe us something more than the music -- that they should be nice all the time,
have really nice staff, and in general do more for their fans outside of the
studio and off stage.

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 14:44:29 -0400
reply-to:     jillian.certo@oberlin.edu
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does anyone have a columbus ticket they can't use?  i was talking to a
girl in our lgbtu(vwxyz...) group and she would like to go.  anyone?
please let me know.
jill

yes, the clothes make the man.
but the woman makes the clothes.
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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 14:49:09 -0400
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at 1:43 pm -0400 11/18/97, jill certo wrote:
>> >i'm sorry, but isn't 'oscar meyer theatre' just about the funniest name
>> >for a theaatre you've ever heard?

then deb wrote:
>> not when the company is headquartered in madison and the family donates a
>> lot of money to the community!

then jill replied:
>ah well, i *still* think it's funny.  ha ha ha.
>i'd expect it to be in the shape of a hotdog or something.

so how do you think we bostonians felt when the famed boston garden was
replaced by brand spanking new arena, originally sponsored by shawmut bank
(and was to be named the shawmut center) until fleet bank bought out
shawmut and immediately changed the name to the fleet center.

everytime i hear it, i think "enema's r us."   eeeeeewww!

bye y'all!

joni  :o)

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 14:53:53 -0400
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who booted that book signing?  could somebody let me know?  and would they
be sweet and kind and loveing enough to tape it for me?  i'd love you
forever and send you lots of email kisses....
jill


oh yeah, also, i was wondering if those of you out there who've had
especially stellar results with concert picture-taking could post or
privately email me your tips.  i spent $300 on a zoom camera for this past
concert weekend, and was *really* disappointed in how my pics came out.
if anyone can recommend a particular camera brand and model that has
proven to be really good, i'd really really appreciate the info.  maybe i
can get some rockin' pics in columbus...  and make extra prints....  hint
hint...
jill

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 14:59:15 -0400
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i didn't hear any of y'all mention this cd in your list of ig appearances:
out loud:  a benefit for the international gay and lesbian human rights
commission.  on the knitting factory works label.  ig perform a live
accoustic version of "this train--revised".  also appearing on the disc
are melissa ferrick, disappear fear, betty, everything but the girl, the
judybats, u2, and the mekons.  it's very good.  it can be ordered from the
damron company at (800) 462-6654.
jill
p.s. which has lower prices:  cdnow or ladyslipper?

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 15:03:25 -0400
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this is for pooh: ( i don't know her addy)------------------------------->

date: tue, 18 nov 1997 14:44:48 -0400
from: "joan m. cyr" <jcyr@mit.edu>
to: jillian.certo@oberlin.edu
subject: re: nigc..kinda..but maybe//jill certo?????

> pooh is ragging on us baigls (cuz she's jealous...we're so much better
> than she is...;o)
> tell her i said "ppplllbt!"

there ya go.

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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 07:09:32 +1100
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okay, folks.

please, can we cut down on the amount of nigc coming through
the list?  flames and nigc should be sent via private email
if at all possible.  in the last digest (which was a special
issue issued just 4 hours after the previous digest), there
were 20 messages.  *sixteen* of these were nigc, and that's
after being very liberal with the definition of igc.

folks, please.  this is too much.

thanks,
sherlyn

ps - greg flamer was joking.
pps - i'm married to greg and deb reiser, and that's official.
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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 14:35:09 -0000
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>deb wrote,
> hardly a week goes by without someone posting to this
>list about meeting them, so clearly they're very accessible,
> even if you personally have had bad luck. perhaps you can
>be less angry if you appreciate what they give you, rather than
>what they don't.

well said deb, everyone deserves their own space.

tt

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subject:      request for northrop directions & advice

ok, in reply to the really cool stories about meeting the girls and sara,
jerry, sulli, ect-
how do you know where to wait????  i'm going to the show in mpls. on
wednesday, and i want to come home with some nifty story about...something,
at least... :-)
does anybody who is going to the northrop show have any advice for meeting
them (or does anybody know where to hang out to catch them going out to their
buses or something?)

also---i need directions to northrop coming from duluth.  actually, i have
some, but i got them from ticketmaster online, and i want to be sure they're
correct.
thanks so much :-)
~jen

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 19:52:57 -0800
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the under cover seats are sold out, and we've got extra friends coming
in now for the show. if anybody knows anybody who knows anybody who's
got extra tickets, i'd be eternally grateful. please e-mail me privately
at amy1@alpeng.com

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 19:51:11 -0800
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while reading the comments about funny site names, i remembered
something funny i meant to tell y'all about the last ig tampa show: all
concertgoers were subject to a weapons search (huh!?!) at the doors to
the sun dome with an honest-to-goodness metal detector. i was laughing
my ass off (you'd have thought we were at a wu tang clan gig - until i
was denied entrance - and was supposed to go back to my car in the
absolute driving rain - because of a small swiss army knife. now, we're
not talking about the one with all the doohickies, with which you quite
possibly could take over the world - we're talking the smallest, most
inconspicuous one they make - the classic. i looped around to the end of
the line, concealed it in my hand with my keys, and carried the sucker
in.
i'm pretty sure people could carry automatic weapons around at an indigo
girls concert and about the worst thing that might happen is you'd get
hugged to death.
the countdown begins...4 weeks 'til lilith.

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 18:01:38 -0500
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subject:      re: flames and nigc
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i totally agree...i just filtered through 600-odd posts from last week
and the bulk of them were nigc and flames...please...this is an indigo
girls list, okay??
               a very desperate plea,
                         sharon
on wed, 19 nov 1997, sherlyn koo
wrote:

> okay, folks.
>
> please, can we cut down on the amount of nigc coming through
> the list?  flames and nigc should be sent via private email
> if at all possible.  in the last digest (which was a special
> issue issued just 4 hours after the previous digest), there
> were 20 messages.  *sixteen* of these were nigc, and that's
> after being very liberal with the definition of igc.
>
> folks, please.  this is too much.
>
> thanks,
> sherlyn
>
> ps - greg flamer was joking.
> pps - i'm married to greg and deb reiser, and that's official.
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> "and i will write this down and then i will not be alone again,
>  yeah, i was out here listening, oh yeah i was out here listening;
>  oh yeah i am out here listening all the time."    - dar williams
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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 19:36:19 -0500
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does anyone want two central missouri state tickets for the show on the
23rd in warrensburg, mo?  i was going to ask full price for the,
m, but now
i will lower the price.  let me know- i can't go, and i don't want the
tickets to go to waste.  -anna bolton

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 15:40:19 -0500
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i had written in my planner for oct. 21 (yeah, i know, i'm a little behind -
not as bad as _reality bites_ though) ig - bob seger tribute album.  first
of all, i'm thinking i meant to write pete seeger, which would make more
sense.  second, does anyone know if this ever happened?  i remember it being
discussed over the summer, which is when i wrote it down, but didn't know if
anything was ever finalized.  any info would be appreciated.  thanks.

elizabeth


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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 16:49:19 -0600
reply-to:     margaret clayton <margaret@uchicago.edu>
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this just came in the daemon monthly email:

***new mongrels in the studio***
haynes is in town and recording has started for the second n.m. cd.
word has it  that amy, emily, michael, shelia, and gerard have
already been in the studio.  if all goes as planned, we are hoping for
a spring release.


msthstry <-- ha ha!  margaret, who was one key over to the right

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 16:53:05 est
reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      nigc all over my big ass!

--- you wrote:
susan b. marine.....say your prayers.... ;)

*maniacalhideousstraightoutofanedgarallenpoemovielaugh*

...the *other* sue
--- end of quote ---

eek! i'm runnin for cover!! remember: i am quaker, no violence!:)

sus

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 17:00:57 est
reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      callin off the troops nigc

--- you wrote:
i was *not* personally
attacking the badass susan b. marine, either, ok y'all???  geez....sorry
if i offended anyone...
--- end of quote ---
it's okay sue.

nobody should be flaming you for givin me heck. i can take it! i'm a big grrl!
i'm a lucky dog! i'm.....i have a good therapist ;)

xo, sus

thanks to my supporters, whoever you be

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 16:45:35 -0600
reply-to:     margaret clayton <margaret@uchicago.edu>
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apparantly there is a cosmic misalignment that has made everything on this
list go slightly haywire.  i'm sure things will fix themselves.  let's all
just chill out for a while, listen to some ig, and let things blow over.

that said, i'd like to point out that there are many ig fans who have been
really moved by the ig's music.  it is logical and natural (imho) for them
(us) to want to thank a&e--and certainly in person is more satisfying than
in a letter sent to rcam.  but what it comes down to is that when we feel
this need to have personal interaction with a&e, it is still about asking
something else from them--the need to thank them _in person_ is ours, not
theirs.  it's asking for their time, their energy, their attention, and
their kindness.  the need for this is so strong, but i feel like perhaps it
would be better to spend some time grieving our respective fates (if we
need to) which don't include a personal relationship with a&e than it would
be to try to get just a little more from them than they have already given
us.

margaret

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 17:46:01 -0500
reply-to:     grlchasr26@aol.com
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from:         kerry franklin <grlchasr26@aol.com>
subject:      need to unload some ig magazines

hey all! i have a friend who has a ton of copies of entertainer & lifestyles
magazine with ig on the cover. its a really cool cover pic too :) if you
wanna see what it looks like, i have it on one of  my webpages at
http://members.aol.com/grlchasr26/igmags.html
not sure if she's looking for trades or just sase. anyways...e-mail
away420@aol.com if interested.

grl

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 15:30:59 -0500
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      re: nigc: audio clips, lilith fair
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i was told by someplace a 30 sec. clip was indeed the maximum a clip, could
be - in fact you must say explicitly state you are using the clip in
accordance with fair use. i have an public conference/ interview i am putting on realaudio with
anthony edwards of er, and not only do i have his verbal permission - i got
written as well.
also - real audio is considered to be the *professional standard* on the
net, because you can't decompress it to a file format in which you can burn
into an audio cd. mp3 is frowned upon by people in the recording industry,
(although, i have yet to see ig mp3 boots to spring up, or realaudio from
tapes.)

just my .02 - i could be wrong,
mike r.

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 15:14:07 -0500
reply-to:     karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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hey y'all,

i have been catching bits and pieces of a watershed videotape that is
due out in january, is this different than the one i picked up last
night?  it is a 10 year chronicle of the ig and it is super terrific.
the date on the back is 1995, there are so many videos, you know i have
never seen them on mtv or vh1, (cept for sunday's lilith special)  so is
there going to be a new watershed released or what??  they only would
have 3 years of catching up to do, but i'll buy it.  btw, my video was
only 17.99 and its 66 minutes long, freaked my 17 year old son cause he
thinks that because i love ig i'm gonna become gay...lol  i told them
there is no recruiting. arggggg

love and peace, karen

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 20:20:08 -0400
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does anyone know who is opening the boston show?

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 18:38:21 -0400
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hi,
is it possible to order any of the stuff that you have in the mailing
through email?  i lost my flyer and would like to order for the
holidays.
thanks
patt mulroy

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 15:29:00 -0400
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from:         jill certo <jillian.certo@oberlin.edu>
subject:      re: backstage, off stage, etc.
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on tue, 18 nov 1997, deb wrote:
> but i do say what i think when responding to messages, and i offer praise
> *and* criticism as i feel are merited.
> i expect people to take care of
> themselves and leave (or stop participating in) a discussion list if they
> can't handle true discussion.
yes, as do i.  but  *flames are not discussions.*  they are just nasty.
it's not possible to dicuss anything when insulting each other.  that
immediately puts people on the defensive, and nothing productive takes
place then.

> i'm sorry, but for me,
> ig and love have little to do with one another.
wow.  i find that amazing that you don't find any commonality between the
two.  i can see the link.

> rude and selfish of you to go in an employees only entrance even if you sat
> far away and didn't bother anyone
> and i do think it was rude and
> selfish of stephanie to stand in the aisle instead of the seat she paid for.
well, hey, the seats cost the same.  and there *was* an empty seat in my
row, so why not?  many ig fans have posted about taking seats weren't
theirs, cause there was nobody sitting in them.  and no one objected.
maybe we're just not purists, and willing to commit a tiny white sin.
> there are a lot of people who would have liked to have watched the sound check
> or to have stood in the first row on the aisle, but they didn't, and there's a
> reason (or two) for that.
yeah, there is:  #1:  it's cause they weren't hangin' with the listees,
like
they shoulda' been. cause we always have the *most* fun.  reason # 2:
(this is *your* explanation for why i've never met the girls):
they just weren't in the right place at the right time.

> my primary point (as indicated in the subject i created), and the one i'd like
> to move this discussion back toward if it is to continue, is the idea that ig
> owe us something more than the music -- that they should be nice all the time,
> have really nice staff, and in general do more for their fans outside of the
> studio and off stage.
okay, i'll get to your point, just had to beat that dead dog a bit more
above.  i think they owe us a little bit more, not to the extreme that you
speak of, but a bit, cause when they decided to do this with their lives,
they knew what they were getting into.  and i believe that they are
genuine people persons.  any performer loves making people happy and
entertained-- that's one of the reasons why they choose to perform.  they
*should* have nice staff, i mean the staff that meets with the public.
that's a really bad way to represent yourself.  (i'm speaking of mr. nasty
harmonica man)(btw, steph and i aren't the only ones who've had bad
experiences with him, so this was not an isolated incident).
and ig have made an effort to "do more" off the stage and studio--with
their activism and benefit cds and book excerpts, etc.  yes, if they want
to mingle with the public, then we should expect mingling from them!
there's no need for their pr people to take the position that the girls
are some mighty untouchables, cause we know they're not, they're *real*
people, whose music and words we relate to really well; that's why we want
to meet them, to talk to them, to have some kind of contact.  haven't you
ever been in a social situation, for example, and seen somebody who was
just *sparkling*?  and you just *had* to talk to them, to experience their
presence?  it's kinda like that.  (okay, okay, and many of us--hey
tigger--would also really like to touch amy ray's searing skin... oh, but
that's another story, and just a wild fantasy :))(g'damn she's beautiful).
zowee.  dang.  darn.  gosh.  oh my.  wow.  geez.  hum-ina, hum-ina.....oh,
sorry, i got caught up there for a minute.  <g>
okay, i'll shut up now.
jill

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 21:20:57 -0500
reply-to:     jen lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>
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        okay y'all...

        i was gonna not say anything in the hopes that you would all take the
flaming...discussions...whatever...into private email.
        but it's getting a bit ridiculous.

        please continue all the current nigc's in private...

                thanks,

                        jen

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 20:33:36 -0600
reply-to:     justin shumaker <shuey@arn.net>
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subject:      wild, wild party
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okay, has anyone heard the song "wild, wild party in the loquat tree" by ig?

i was loitering in cdnow, and found this compilation album from 1993 called
"put on your green shoes".  on it is the song i just mentioned.

considering myself fairly well-versed in all things ig, i marvelled at my
complete lack of familiarity at this song.

anyone heard it?  insights?

justin
who just saw the vh1 lilith special and was quite pleased

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 16:16:18 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls rule <klrosenb@wittenberg.edu>
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from:         indigo girls rule <klrosenb@wittenberg.edu>
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where is everyone sitting in columbus???  i am getting so excited for this
show.  dayton rocked!  columbus will be even better!
:-) karen

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 20:51:18 -0600
reply-to:     avital <avital@cs.wisc.edu>
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from:         avital <avital@cs.wisc.edu>
subject:      madison tickets...

although i was a good girl and sat in line for a *little* too long and
snagged 5th row seats to the show in madison in *two days* <silent scream>,
i do know of quite a few folks (including my poor mom) who suffered
because of the speedy sell-out.  so if anyone out there has any extra
tickets, could you please drop me a note?  in advance, know that you'll make
some people *very* happy!
if not, can't wait to see everyone (not to mention the girls) on thurday!
  avital

"everything is with you always."  ig
        avital@cs.wisc.edu
"i will not be afraid of women."  dw

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 19:12:05 +0000
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subject:      boots

hello all,

i have a question................how long should i pathically wait by my
mailbox to receive a boot i sent tapes for?  this is the first time i've
done this, i'm not sure how long it usually takes and i'm getting no
response from e-mail.  i don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth,
but it's been over 2 months, should i give up?

betsy

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to have the things that mean the most
not to mean the things i miss --emily saliers

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 22:26:16 -0500
reply-to:     jessica schraub <jschraub@sas.upenn.edu>
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ok, this is pretty random, but i thought y'all might find this
appropriate/relevant, or at the least, interesting. my uncle was
checking out my webpage and *somehow* figured out that i was into the
indigo girls. as he wrote, "i read between the lines". i can assure you,
that's not necessary :) anyhow, he and my aunt are buddhist, so he
offered this bit of insight. i'm sure he had no idea i'd be sharing it
with 1,000 or so others, but i'm sure he won't mind :) enjoy (i hope)!!

> there is a concept in buddhism that translates roughly as 'deeper
> than the blue of the indigo plant'. it seems that when dye is made from
> the indigo plant, as you continue to dip cloth into the dye it becomes
> deeper and deeper blue until it is even more blue than the indigo dye
> itself. the concept illustrates that as people, through practice,
> develop their inherent enlightened condition of life, they eventually
> transcend even what they imagined fulfillment might be.

oooo, pretty deep, huh? :)
jess

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 21:31:49 -0600
reply-to:     katherine roberts <kater@merle.acns.nwu.edu>
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hey guys,

could some kind soul out there help me with directions to the oscar mayer
theatre?  we'll be coming from chicago -- i'm more familiar with 94 than 90,
since i usually take 94 through milwaukee when doing the chicago-minneapolis
trek, which i can now do blindfolded. basically, i just need to know where
to go from the freeway (i.e. which exit, best place to park, etc.)

if someone could help, i would be mucho indebted to you.

thanks much,
kate.

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 21:49:21 -0600
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hey to anyone attending the minneapolis concert on wednesday:

my friends and i will be sitting in section 3, row 16, seats 9-11. stop
by and say hello if you get a chance. hopefully i won't get lost trying
to find northrup or decide to meet a snow bank on the 5 hour trip across
wisconsin and minnesota. well, if i have to get into an accident, on
emust hope it happens on the way home instead of on the way there :)

hope to connect a few faces with some of the names i've seen posted. but
if not, i am preparing to join all you atlanta listees on the 24th and
25th. (meet you in less than a week lisa d.)

later,
chris b.

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 23:07:12 -0500
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have u wrote the person adn talked to them are they answering your emails

on tue, 18 nov 1997, betsy dennis wrote:

> hello all,
>
> i have a question................how long should i pathically wait by my
> mailbox to receive a boot i sent tapes for?  this is the first time i've
> done this, i'm not sure how long it usually takes and i'm getting no
> response from e-mail.  i don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth,
> but it's been over 2 months, should i give up?
>
> betsy
>
> "what i won't give......
> to have the things that mean the most
>  not to mean the things i miss --emily saliers
>
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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 23:18:36 -0500
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my apologies if this entire message has already been posted.  i haven't
seen it in any of my digests as of yet...

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***danielle howle & the tantrums***
the tantrums kicked off their extensive tour this past friday with
their atlanta cd release party.  they will be touring for the next few
months though they will take a few days off for christmas.  check
our site for tour dates.  if they come to your town don't miss them!

***monthly special***
we are continuing last months jcs special until the end of november.
we have been flooded with orders and thought we'd give everyone a
chance to add this to their christmas shopping list..  look for a new
special in december.

***lift***
lift is competing in the independent music world series at the cotton
club in atlanta on december 11th.  so if your in the area be sure to go
cheer them on.

also, molly says the band has gotten lots of e-mail from their northeastern
fans.  thanks for the support and watch for them your way in january.

***new mongrels in the studio***
haynes is in town and recording has started for the second n.m. cd.
word has it  that amy, emily, michael, shelia, and gerard have
already been in the studio.  if all goes as planned, we are hoping for
a spring release.

***michelle malone***
michelle has a new website!  local graphic designer, jodie hersh and
michelle have been working overtime the last few weeks to debut
michellemalone.com  stop by to get all the latest on michelle.  bio,
tours, e-mail, etc. and lots of cool merchandise.

oh, don't forget to order michelle's swingin' christmas in the attic.
it's great music for your next christmas party or stocking stuffer.

***e. cooper seay/viva la diva***
cooper's new release fin de siecle is running a little behind.  there have
been a few delays in the studio and we are told it should be out around
mid-december.  for those of you who have gotten the new catalog  keep
this in mind when ordering.  we'll keep you posted!

***holiday orders***
hey, if you are ordering daemon product this holiday season this is
a reminder to do it soon.  we are already inundated with orders
and want to make sure everyone receives their package on time.

that's all from the office,
the daemon staff


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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 16:08:06 -0500
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from:         poprckgrrl@aol.com
subject:      more ani

the song is 32 flavors...not just "flavors" unless that wannabe ani &%$#ed
that up too...

think i am going to start a grassroots campaign and start going into every
record store in the washington/baltimore metropolitan area and put my own
warning stickers on alana's cd...like how it is a piece of crap and they
should go a little further into the d section and get the cd it actually was
first on..the only one that matters...not a pretty girl...

only redeeming fact is that alana will be one of those "where are they now
people" very very soon...yahooey!

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ok y'all-

i was wondering if anyone knows what the deal is with liz turcotte.  i
mailed her tapes for the great woods boot in june.  that's nearly 6 months
ago, and i have not gotten them back.  she kept telling me that she's going
to send them, but now she's moved and i have no idea what her e-mail is.
i'd really like to get this boot, i've been looking forward to getting it
forever and i think i've been waiting long enough.  i mean, i know people
are busy but this is unacceptable, especially if you offer to tape a boot
for someone.  i would appriciate any info that you can provide.

thanks you and sorry for the bandwidth!

~rob
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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 23:17:51 -0500
reply-to:     egnater@aol.com
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subject:      re: backstage, off stage, etc.
x-to:         jillian.certo@oberlin.edu

hey, i am coming out of lurkdom. i just have to say this.  i have been to
many shows and i have a great time without the expectation of meeting the
people on the stage.  i can understand wanting to get backstage and all cause
i used to make a game out of it. but, to think they owe any of us anything
other than a great show is just plain selfish thinking.  me,me,me.  they have
touched many of our lives through their music but they didn't sell their
souls to us.  you ever come home from work or school and just don't want to
answer the phone or deal with anyone.  i know i do. and i am sure they have
those days too.  maybe the show wasn't up to their expectation or they are
just having a "bad day."  and i don't know this tour manager, but it sounds
like he is just doing his job, although its never an excuse to be mean to
someone. but he may be having a bad day, tour, life whatever too.
  anyway, just my couple of cents. remember the saying "walk a mile in my
shoes"

                   egg

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once again, sorry to waste bandwidth, but either is kirsten chevalierout
there or can someone sen me her email address?  she either owes me a lot of
tapes or a lot of boots.
also, does anyone know if the iu concert has sold out yet?
                                                        -anna bolton

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date:         tue, 18 nov 1997 20:34:37 -0500
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here's the info kristen posted about the pete seeger tribute in july.  i
haven't heard anything about it coming out, and it's not at cdnow.

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from: kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
to: indigo-girls@netspace.org <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
date: saturday, july 05, 1997 10:49 am
subject: seeger tribute (fwd) (igc!)

>thought this might be of interest...

[...]

>> date: sat, 5 jul 1997 00:33:25 -0400
>> from: sally greenberg <sallyg@ix.netcom.com>
>> to: multiple recipients of list <folk_music@nysernet.org>
>> subject: re: speaking of tribute albums...

[...]

>> here's an update from jim musselman on the status of the pete seeger
>> tribute (double) cd:
>>
>> sally
>>
>> >from: folkradicl@aol.com
>> >date: fri, 4 jul 1997 11:03:16 -0400 (edt)
>> >to: sallyg@ix.netcom.com
>> >subject: re: speaking of tribute albums...
>> >
>> >sally:
>> >
>> >in response to your inquiry here is the update on the seeger
"celebration of
>> >his music"...it is called "where have all the flowers gone" and it will
be a
>> >double cd that looks like it will be out on october 21st......here is
the
>> >list of artists who have done songs.
>> >
>> >jackson browne, bonnie raitt, billy bragg,bruce cockburn, ani difranco,
>> >richie havens, holly near, ronnie gilbert, si kahn, dick gaughan, roger
>> >mcguinn, greg brown, indigo girls, guy davis, tim robbins(the actor
singing),
>> >studs terkel, john trudell, nanci griffith, odetta, tish hinojosa, judy
>> >collins, cathy fink and marcy marxer, peter paul and mary, tom paxton,
casey
>> >neill....one other major artist may be added if contractual problems can
be
>> >cleared up.
>> >
>> >the songs have been picked to match the artists....jackson browne and
bonnie
>> >raitt do a reggae version of "kisses sweeter than wine"...in addition
tommy
>> >sands and dolores keane sing a version of "where have all the flowers
gone"
>> >with liam o'flynn on pipes and vedran smilovich on cello...it also
features a
>> >chorus of catholic and protestant school children.....each song is a
story
>> >upon itself.
>> >
>> >the project is finished but is being held up for the time being for a
very
>> >welll known artist who did a cut for the cd and took ill and wants to
try to
>> >recut the song.
>> >
>> >thank you for your interest and please feel free to post this on the
usenet
>> >group. all the best.....
>> >
>> >                                                         jim

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reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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jill certo <jillian.certo@oberlin.edu> wrote:
>i didn't hear any of y'all mention this cd in your list of ig appearances:
>out loud:  a benefit for the international gay and lesbian human rights
>commission.  on the knitting factory works label.  ig perform a live
>accoustic version of "this train--revised".  also appearing on the disc
>are melissa ferrick, disappear fear, betty, everything but the girl, the
>judybats, u2, and the mekons.  it's very good.  it can be ordered from the
>damron company at (800) 462-6654.

yeah, that's a great one!  there's a link to the out loud home page on my
music and ig indexes.

>p.s. which has lower prices:  cdnow or ladyslipper?

definitely cdnow, but ladyslipper has a large selection of music by women.

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subject:      nigc looking for allison

please email me alisin, regarding the vh1 we talked about. sorry about the
nigc; i know you just mentioned we were doing too much of it, but sometimes
ya just have to. please forgive me.

michelle

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in a message dated 97-11-18 22:46:19 est, jillian.certo@oberlin.edu writes:

<< (okay, okay, and many of us--hey
tigger--would also really like to touch amy ray's searing skin... oh, but
that's another story, and just a wild fantasy :))(g'damn she's beautiful).
>>

taking a sec to grin back at jillian  :)

now everyone, all in unison:  take it private!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks y'all.

peace, harmony and indigo,

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i have this album-its fun.  i really like the song.  not at all like their
other stuff (they didn't write it) but it is a song i would probably like
even if they didnt sing it.  i really am a sucker for children's music
though, so that may be why i like it so much.  i don't really like too
much of the other stuff on the album.  a big part of it is pure cheese.
speaking of children's albums, did anyone else listen to free to be you
and me when they were young?  i hated it then, but i love it now.
amanda

on tue, 18 nov 1997, justin shumaker wrote:

> okay, has anyone heard the song "wild, wild party in the loquat tree" by ig?
>
> i was loitering in cdnow, and found this compilation album from 1993 called
> "put on your green shoes".  on it is the song i just mentioned.
>
> considering myself fairly well-versed in all things ig, i marvelled at my
> complete lack of familiarity at this song.
>
> anyone heard it?  insights?
>
> justin
> who just saw the vh1 lilith special and was quite pleased
>
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subject:      re: i wish i were annie difranko!!
x-to:         oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu

in a message dated 11/18/97 3:53:43 pm, you wrote:

>anyhoo, that's the deal. i can't believe this chyck was actually able to buy
>the rights to cover the song...how duz zat work?

        as long as a song has already been recorded, anyone can record it without
the writer's permission.  there is no "buying the rights."  if the song was
not previously recorded, then the artist would have to get the writer's
permission.  when i say "writer" it really means the owner of the copyright,
which is usually the publisher and the author of the song.

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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 00:29:28 -0500
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this isn't a flame, or a hop on a soapbox(well, maybe a little), just a
little common sense callto reality.
        amy ray and emily saliers started out as a band more than a decade
ago to write and perform songs.  they did this because they wanted to get
out a message, but also because they thought it would be cool to sing and
perform for a living.  they undoubtedly decided to sign to a major label
because that meant financial security and exposure to a wider
audience.
        nowhere in their contract does it say anything about signing away
love, affection, or privacy.  nowhere in their contract is it written
that they must give any of you big warm hugs just because you spent one
hundred, or even five hundred, or even five thousand dollars on their
music.  because, you see, you spent it on their *music*.  not on their
bodies, or their hugging ability.  the amount of time and energy you
expend thinking about them does not give you license to do anything
remotely illegal or invasive to them or anyone associated with them.  the
idea that they owe you anything except competent performances is certainly
a manifestation of the alienation we all feel in this closed off society
that we live in.  certainly if i can't hug my mom i should be able to hug
amy, right?
        it doesn't work that way.  amy ray doesn't know you from adam.
it's sad but true.  sure they appreciate our dedication, but our feelings
of entitlement are way outta touch with reality.  i can honestly say that
if it weren't for them, i doubt i would be alive.  but how the hell can i
conevy that to them?  i can't.  they can't know me, or what i've lived
through.  maybe when i listen to blood and fire i can fool myself into
thinking that they can, but running up to them at the end of a show and
giving them a trinket just ain't gonna do it folks.  i have fantasies all
the time about having a cup of coffee with amy, meeting her while i walk
my dog, but it ain't gonna happen.
        if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with.
        give your favorite teddy to your nephew.
        write a poem to your dad.
        thank your favorite teacher.
        and try and focus on the immediate love or lack thereof around
you, and address it.  stop worrying about the next forbidden door you can
walk through.

let the flames begin,
mc

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subject:      re: watershed vhs tape
x-to:         karenfrey@redrose.net

karen, please clarify.  there is a new watershed videotape due out?

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subject:      new mongrels

hi. i'm still lurking around. i saw this post about the daemon releases and
was wondering if anyone knows if maybe this is the surprise emily was talking
about on the npr show and in other interviews. are they going to be doing a
new mongrels leg of the tour??? sorry if you all have already discussed this.
if someone knows, please email me.


***new mongrels in the studio***
haynes is in town and recording has started for the second n.m. cd.
word has it  that amy, emily, michael, shelia, and gerard have
already been in the studio.  if all goes as planned, we are hoping for
a spring release.

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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 04:20:41 -0500
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subject:      ig milwaukee concert

does anyone have any milwaukee tickets left for sale ...dec. 8th ?

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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 07:00:30 -0600
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hi,
the 2 cd collection of jesus christ superstar, the soundtrack is
available for only $12.99 at http://cdnow.com/from=sr-148057 . also,
the daemon products are all there at decent prices. search the record
label links for daemon, and all the discs are listed there.
suzanne
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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 06:47:55 -0800
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maey clark said:
    >         nowhere in their contract does it say anything about
signing away
> love, affection, or privacy.  nowhere in their contract is it written
> that they must give any of you big warm hugs just because you spent one
> hundred, or even five hundred, or even five thousand dollars on their
> music.


you  hit it right on the head..i wish more folks would understand
this..
there is only one statement i disagree with..
they don't owe us anything.. if they decided to never tour..thats their
choice..i'll still buy their stuff.....
if they decide to quit tommorrow , that is their right...
they owe us nothing.
we buy their music..not their souls..
you go girl

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from:         elizabeth deschesne <tunegal3@aol.com>
subject:      re: what they owe us (igc up the wazoo)

'nuff said!!  mc..
couldn't agree with you more..

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> hardly a week goes by without someone posting to this
>list about meeting them, so clearly they're very accessible,

i'm new here so i'm probably wrong about this ... but i was surprised
to see so many people talking about where they'd seen them and
stuff like that.  i think it says in the faq that we're encouraged
not to put up stuff like that because a & e deserve their privacy.
even goddess amy said that it was the worst part of this list thing.

i realize that waiting after a concert and seeing them is
different ... i mean who could pass up telling that phenominal
news??!?!  :)  but some of the other stuff ... i don't know.

- rick

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hi,

i'm looking for a single ticket to either the columbus, oh, show
(dec. 1) or the louisville, ky, show (dec. 2).  please reply
privately.

thanks,
kirby

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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 08:57:12 -0500
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hi gang.  first let me say that i was thriled to have been able to see =
the girls in dayton (in 3rd row-emily side) and meet others on this list =
through our list meet at holiday inn.  after reading several posts of =
bickering back and forth here i must make a couple of comments.  first =
of all the first thing i noticed about emily (and we were right in front =
of her) was that she *looked* stoned out of her mind.  her eyes were =
red, glassy and she had that completely buzzed look about her.  anyone =
know if em is a partier?  i know we are not supposed to talk of the =
girls private lives on the list, but she was on stage at the time i =
noticed this.  i've also noticed in watershed and several other =
appearances she tends to wear shades a lot - maybe trying to hide her =
eyes???    another thing that totally pissed me off and i still haven't =
quite gotten over yet . . . . we waited outside in the freezing windy =
cold for over an hour to catch a glimpse at amy and emily.  i got sara =
lee's autograph and boy was she sweet.  i didn't even necessarily want =
autographs from the girls - just to see them and hear them say thanks =
y'all, or give us a wave.  they didn't come out - we caught a fleeting =
glance at emily sitting on the bus reading something - and then some =
jerk closes the drapes on the front of the bus so that we can't even =
star-gaze at them.  there were people on either side of the bus as it =
pulled out and they didn't even pull open the curtains and give us a =
wave or an acknowledgment that we were even there.  i'm sorry if you =
think i am making a big deal over this.  maybe i just expect too much.  =
i've seen many other groups and waited outside in all degrees of weather =
for them - they have always acknowledged the fans waiting, either via a =
wave or thrown us kisses or actually said "hey".  we certainly weren't =
stalking them and there weren't a whole lot of us.  just an =
acknowledgement - that's all i wanted. i have to say that this left me =
with a bad taste in my mouth - my last memories of a great concert.=20

i will probably post more later about the actual concert and surrounding =
events.  just now had to rant and get it off my chest.  thanks for =
listening :)        p.s.  - it was so nice meeting all of you listees - =
lisa s. and her friend and lisa t. and stephanie and jill - are you =
feeling better now??? and kirby and seeing twink and barb and don and =
peggy and deidre again.  any others that i missed i'm sorry - but you =
know who you are. =20

peace,

lori
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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 09:01:59 -0500
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justin wrote:


>okay, has anyone heard the song "wild, wild party in the loquat tree" by
ig?

yes, i borrowed it from my local library and immediately had to add it to my
collection of rare or hard to find songs by ig.  it is so cute, i can't
hardly believe it.  my favorite part though has to be when they are doing
the sound affects - chatter, chirp, squeek, buzz.  i laugh myself silly over
that.  my son even likes it.  i played it one day and the next day he
actually requested to hear it again.  he is 14 - that is pretty amazing.
ha!!


if you haven't heard it, run to your local music store or order it from
cdnow, or request it from a local library if they have a sellection of
pretty decent tapes or cds.  i got mine on cd.

ttfn -tah tah for now

lori
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>i was loitering in cdnow, and found this compilation album from 1993 called
>"put on your green shoes".  on it is the song i just mentioned.
>

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hi again.  just was curious as to how many of the listees have children =
and what they think of our love of the indigo girls music.  i will start =
with my introduction on this subject.  i have a 14 year old boy - joe.  =
when i first started playing their music years ago, he just was not into =
it at all.  kind of ignored them.  then more recently i was playing them =
all the time trying to turn a friend onto their music and he was getting =
quite sick of hearing them.  said that they couldn't sing or play worth =
a crap stuff like that.  slowly but surely he is coming around though.  =
first he started liking shed your skin, then one day he came home from =
school and was actually caught singing shame on you.  he said "mom, =
what's that song that goes . . . "go down to chacano city park" - i =
played it for him and he was real into it.  i actually think he just =
thought it was cool that amy says "i keep fucking up".  ha!!  he can =
sing the f word and mom doesn't get mad.  then one day in the car with =
heather -she is my witness - we were playing bury my hearting at wounded =
knee - and joe started really getting into it and head-banging and =
screaming the lyrics real loud and the cars by us were looking - and he =
didn't even care.  i know there are more instances of him actually =
liking a few of their songs but too many to ramble on about here.  also, =
my mom who at first thought my admiration of the girls was pretty insane =
since they were gay - has come around and now when others say "oh, isn't =
that the dyke band", mom will go "no, they are amy and emily" - and then =
she wants me to whip out one of my tapes and play it for them. she =
learned some of the their songs and her favorites are i dont wanna talk =
about it -from the philadelphia soundtrack - and get out the map.  god i =
love her.  she's the greatest.  but that is a whole other story.....  =20


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hey y'all,

it's me again - with different tickets for sale. :-)

i have two extra tickets to the first (sold-out) atlanta show (11/25)
that i will not need.

they are pretty good seats - orchestra, row p, and i think somewhere
close to the center aisle? i will have to check that at home tonight.

please respond to this address (jocie@hotmail.com) as i am not on the
list, if you want them - it's only a week away (yay!) - so act fast, and
i might even throw in a set of ginsu knives - oh wait! - my momma told
me to stop throwing knives ;-)

of course - face value plus tm charges (or, what i paid for 'em - i
think it was $69)

peace,
jocelyn (who has never been to the fox theatre, and hears it is indeed
fabulous!)

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subject:      toronto ig guitarists?

hi,
just wondering if there are any acoustic guitarists in the toronto
area who may be interested in getting together to play a few ig
tunes....maybe some sarah mcclachlan too. anyways, please email me
privately if you are interested.  thanks,

de

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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 06:23:33 pst
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>i'm sorry, but isn't 'oscar meyer theatre' just about the funniest name
>for a theaatre you've ever heard?
>jill

well, as far as i'm concerned, "pine knob music theatre" beats that
easily.....

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hey y'all,

i'm leaving the list for awhile, and i just figure i say so long.....<sniff,
sniff>.....  that's b/c i'm moving to atlanta in two weeks.... so i'll be
around soon i hope (i might go through a slight withdrawl though .... 8-0
....!!!)
of course if the girls do another crazy new england tour sweep, i'll be
kicking myself....

thanks for all the help, boots, and laughs...
till my new addy comes around...

8-)
mkc
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subject:      lilith on vh1

>>if you  missed it vh 1 had one of their behind the music specials on about
>>lilith...watch out for the rerun of it...
>
>i'm so glad i caught this!  a&e were featured all through it right to the

i happened to tune into this show last night while channel surfing
and really enjoined it.  there was a lot of good discussion about
and with ig...and one funny scene where lisa loeb and amy are
standing by a table of food...and lisa points at some food item in
a box and says to amy something like, "those things are pretty good,
but they smell like barbie dolls."  amy then proceeds to pick up the
box and smell it and says, "they do smell like barbie dolls."  i
thought that was pretty funny.

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hi fellow listees, who i am *quite* certain are all "precious inside"---
i'd like to quote a much respected source here, who provide, as always,
important advice:
"i have no need for anger with intimate strangers..."

peace-nic (who had to use every available fire extinguisher in the
          house to repeatedly douse the flames coming out of her
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hi, all.  this is sort of a de-lurk, i suppose.  i've been reading the list
for almost a year, but i'm shy.  i'm stephanie.  i just had to comment on
this thread because i have had a lot of experience with ig and children!

i don't have children of my own but i do a lot of babysitting.  driving two
girls (ages 8 and 11) back and forth from camp last summer, i played ig in
the car stereo all the time.  at first they were skeptical (they only hear
classical music at home) but by the end of the summer, they were saying
things like "i can tell this is an amy song, there's just something about
it."  the older girl is named emily and you can guess which ig became her
favorite.

then there's a 7-year-old girl whose parents watch vh-1 all the time.  last
christmas all she wanted was spice girls merchandise (gag).  but through my
gentle tutelage, now she's asking for shaming of the sun for her birthday
next week.  instead, i got her a hat at the last ig show i went to.

then there's my 13-year-old sister, who's a pretty big fan.  i took her to
the show at fraze pavillion in kettering, oh last summer and it was great
seeing her dancing on the lawn!  she's getting copies of all my
recently-acquired boots for a christmas present this year.

i've made it a point to try to convert all the kids i have any contact
with, and so far it's been very successful.  at lease with these kids, they
seem to like the fact that they can (usually) understand the words and that
they can sing along.  i love introducing ig to young impressionable minds!

stephanie

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in a message dated 11/19/97 9:21:45 am, ljusko@netexp.net wrote:

>just was curious as to how many of the listees have children and what
>they think of our love of the indigo girls music.

my kids are 5 and 2 ... a little too young to have figured out that mommy is
an obsessed wacko over a certain female duo!  but both kids have both been
exposed to ig from the very beginning and i hope to take them to concerts
with me some day down the road (but of course they will be squeamishly
embarrassed to be seen with me by then because i will probably be older than
pooh ;-)).

my son was exposed to rop on a daily basis in utero, then i had it playing on
repeat for most of my 26-hour labor (yes, it did start to grate on my nerves
hearing "chickenman" so many times in one day).  andrew came into the world
hearing "galileo" which i was rather thrilled about.  i can't say that he
remembers it, but i always will.

my daughter hope was born in china and had her first taste of the girls the
day we adopted her at 6 months old.  we brought our discman and tiny speakers
all the way to china so we could listen to 1200 curfews in our hotel room.  i
think my daughter definitely favors amy as she is extremely strong-willed and
already has the "yelling in a stream of consciousness" thing down pat.  i
used to play ig tapes in my car a lot but hope managed to stuff the tape deck
full of change two weeks ago (did i mention she is a huge troublemaker?), so
we are now forced to either listen to the radio or talk with one another!

one more kid-related thing:  my husband helps out with youth activities at
our church, and has been using ig music to connect with the jr. high and high
school kids.  one week, the kids discussed how "shame on you" relates to
racism in the u.s., and last week they listened to "hey jesus" as a way of
thinking about non-traditional ways of praying and relating to higher powers.
my husband is getting a reputation of being pretty cool for an old guy (39).
:-)

that's it from this old timer ... two posts in one week is pushing it for me!

heidi

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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 07:16:31 pst
reply-to:     nicola nelson <nicnelson@hotmail.com>
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for the record, i have 3 kids and the oldest (17) always hated ig until
he heard s.o.t.s., where he found a couple of songs he didn't totally
detest. (he's more into primus-type music.)  he's terribly turned off by
the girls' sexual orientation (i hate to admit it but he's pretty
homophobic), but can at least manage to relate to the rockin' nature of
this new stuff, and also some of 1200 curfews.  the other two younger
kids barely tolerate ig.  sniffle, sniffle.  (what have i done wrong???
waaaaah!)  they all crab like crazy if i put on
folk music of any kind - ferinstance in the car on sunday nights when i
am apt to turn to public radio's simply folk program. (the scenario is
this: i tune in simply folk, they roll down the windows and threaten to
jump, i turn up the volume, they bitch and moan louder, and eventually
we reach an uneasy truce where i agree to listen to it on low volume and
they agree to suffer in silence - probably with their fingers in their
ears.)
c'est la vie.  i hated my parents' music too. (but of course they
listened to stuff like frank sinatra...)
peace-nic (who realizes we sound terribly dysfunctional.  oh well.)

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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 09:11:26 -0600
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ani...i asked about the song that alana davis covered...ani said that alana did actually ask her before she covered the song. ani said ,.and these aren't exact quotes just gists "her manager sent me the tape and i guess i wasn't listening very carefully and just said yeah, sure, whatever...kind of like when you are on a date you know and you think ...'i guess, yeah,  i agreed to this?' "which made everybody crack up. but she added that in her opinion "alana kind of screwed with the song later which i think is kind of weird" . so now we know.

kids and ig...my 7 year old loves ig and could probably sing joking, his favorite song, up on stage with them anytime. he put in several hours of volunteer time into their gift of time project without me making him. he can't wait to be ten years old because then he gets to go for their concert and lately every time he hears a song he offers his interpretation of what it means and asks me what i think it is about. i mean, i already knew the kid was brilliant, but this blows me away every time! his interpretations often make me have to re-think the song. and he's cute too :) has anybody taken their young child to a concert and if so, how did it go?

okay very ig now....last night i lay in bed listening to strange fire and i was peering over the insert....i know those people on there are supposed to be their friends and family but does anybody know who is who? the man in the right hand front corner has got to be amy's dad, she looks like him. who are the rest of the people? i assume this is not violating privacy because it was published and they did admit to knowing all those people but if i am wrong about this, lets not flame, a nice word in my ear and i will drop it immediately. i can be really accommodating that way.  :)

also, will somebody please let me know of a concert boot tree branch that i can contact for a recent concert?


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now lets turn this around its not what they owe us its what we owe
them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no this isnt a flame directed at anyone specially not u elizabeth i just
chose yoru not to reply to is all
we owe them the same respect we give other human beings
we owe them the same privacy we accord other human beings
we owe them the same understanding we give other human beings
we owe them the same compassion and understanding and treatment we would
give any other human being regardless of if we think they are goddesses or
idols
their music is to be revered their bodies lusted after <g>(hey thats part
of being human) but they are human and should be accorded the same rights
of privacy and whatever that you give other human beings think would you
want someoen on the list to say  hmmm i wonder who so and so's (insert
list members name here) mother is sleepign with or other issues dealing
wiht your mothers private life h ow would you feel if you woke up and on
the front page there was a article with your mother on the front page
giving the information that some folks have requested herre ?? think about
the the next time you say i wonder (insert any queston about the girls
privacy here)


on wed, 19 nov 1997, elizabeth deschesne wrote:

> 'nuff said!!  mc..
> couldn't agree with you more..
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hey, thanks to the person (name?) who posted the sunday chicago set
list.  i think i've figured out why i (erroneously) had them playing
strange fire and pushing the needle too far.  see...there's a perfectly
good explanation. it's called lost time.  i have this "lost time" which
occured during the opening act's gig - i really can not explain it - and
now i have reconstructed things and i figure i was abducted by aliens,
taken up onto the ufo which was hovering above the rosemont, and at the
same time a & e were abducted.  they graciously agreed to do an
impromptu concert for the aliens, which i happened to witness seeing as
i was on the table with a needle in me at the time (hence that second
song choice - emily obviously felt very sorry for me).  and as for
strange fire - well here's a new thread: why did they choose to do
strange fire for their other song?  you guys are seemingly
omnniscient... you tell me!
peace-nic
p.s. agent scully - help us out here.  what does the bureau know about
this incident?  do they have a boot of the show?

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hi

a web address
(http://www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls)
was recently posted to the list for a ig discography.  the web page also
includes a list of places to contact for further information, and has my
name, address, and phone number in conjuction with the lifeblood newsletter.
the lifeblood newsletter ceased publication over a year ago, and i ask that
you please do not call or write requesting information (the contact
information is no longer current).  i have requested that my personal
information be taken off the web page, and am also requesting that anyone
who has copied it and placed it somewhere else on the web remove it as well.

lifeblood was a free, monthly newsletter about indigo girls public
activities that i published for about 3 1/2 years.  nothing fancy, about 20
photocopied pages a month with no photographs.   i stopped publication so
that i could focus on putting the information i have accumulated on the
lifeblood web page (www.hidwater.com/lifeblood) where it is accessible to
more people.  i no longer have any back issues.

hope this clears up any confusion

carolyn

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                                                  teledyne*
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subject :     re>lilith on vh1                         11/19/97     10:06 am

>amy then proceeds to pick up the box and smell it and says, "they do
>smell like barbie dolls."  i thought that was pretty funny.

that was funny!
my favorite part was sheryl crow learning tried to be true..
amy: do that sheryl crow thing on the first two lines...
     there it is!...
     hey, you sound like sheryl crow!!

and

amy: ok, we're here now... let's mix it up!

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> my favorite part was sheryl crow learning tried to be true..
> amy: do that sheryl crow thing on the first two lines...
>      there it is!...
>      hey, you sound like sheryl crow!!

for those of us without cable...whats 'that sheryl crow thing'?

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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 10:47:00 -0600
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hey all, great shows down in chicago, especially night two after the girls
and the band got a little rest in the same town for a change.  for those who
are interested, i have two (2) tickets availible for the milwaukee show on
dec. 8, floor seating, 'bout 30 rows back (sec 3, row dd).  please e-mail me
direct as i no longer subscribe to the list-server,

madavis3@students.wisc.edu

hope to hear from you.  md :-)

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howdy folks,

is there anyone in the usa who taped the lilith vh1 thingy who could copy
it and send a copy to me in the uk?


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subject:      re: ig on another benefit cd

hey, speaking of ig on benefit cds, don't forget the thrive cd which has the
igs singing a live version of center stage that was recorded in london.
there are also several other great atlanta area musicians on the cd, viva la
diva, big fish ensemble, kelly hogan, gereld mc hugh etc.  you can order it
thru daemon or soon thru ladyslipper or call musicdrome at 770-449-4982.

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subject :     re>>lilith on vh1                        11/19/97     11:00 am

when she sings... sometimes the beginning of her phrases have this sort of hook in her voice.... almost like she draws out the syllables... it's distinctively sheryl crow... i don't know how to put it in singer's terms. i guess that's why i thought amy calling it "that sheryl crow thing" was so funny...

ok... so maybe my sense of humor is just that strange.
alicia

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date: 11/19/97 10:56 am
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> my favorite part was sheryl crow learning tried to be true..
> amy: do that sheryl crow thing on the first two lines...
>      there it is!...
>      hey, you sound like sheryl crow!!

for those of us without cable...whats 'that sheryl crow thing'?

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and what was it that smelled like barbies????

on wed, 19 nov 1997, lynda wrote:

> > my favorite part was sheryl crow learning tried to be true..
> > amy: do that sheryl crow thing on the first two lines...
> >      there it is!...
> >      hey, you sound like sheryl crow!!
>
> for those of us without cable...whats 'that sheryl crow thing'?
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subject:      need concerts shirts...

it's not looking good for us texans as far as touring goes...the girls did do
their share of shows here in the last year, but not in time to get one o'
those yummy winter/thermal "fish shirts". would someone who is going to an
upcoming show (lucky you!) pick up a couple of shirts for me?  i will pay all
costs in advance using certified mail.  i will also kick in an extra $10 for
the hassle of protecting the investment while the show is going on!!
                                           thanks y'all,
                                            chelle {o}---:::

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subject:      what i owe them...

the indigo girls don't owe any of us anything... no this isn't a flame
directed at anyone...i'm just saying that they give thier fans more
opportunities to take pics, talk, get autographs etc than most artists
do...they don't owe me anything...but what i owe them is another story...if
it weren't for a&e and the goddess ani difranco i probably wouldn't be
here...their music is the only thing that kept me afloat through some very
very turbulent times in 93 and 94...they don't owe me anything ...but i owe
them the world...

ok i'm done

heather


taken out of context i must seem so strange- ani difranco

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--- investigation in progress - full incident report pending ---

agent scully

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date:   wed, 19 nov 1997 08:01:18 pst
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subject:      ufo ig gig
to:     indigo-girls@netspace.org

hey, thanks to the person (name?) who posted the sunday chicago set
list.  i think i've figured out why i (erroneously) had them playing
strange fire and pushing the needle too far.  see...there's a perfectly
good explanation. it's called lost time.  i have this "lost time" which
occured during the opening act's gig - i really can not explain it - and
now i have reconstructed things and i figure i was abducted by aliens,
taken up onto the ufo which was hovering above the rosemont, and at the
same time a & e were abducted.  they graciously agreed to do an
impromptu concert for the aliens, which i happened to witness seeing as
i was on the table with a needle in me at the time (hence that second
song choice - emily obviously felt very sorry for me).  and as for
strange fire - well here's a new thread: why did they choose to do
strange fire for their other song?  you guys are seemingly
omnniscient... you tell me!
peace-nic
p.s. agent scully - help us out here.  what does the bureau know about
this incident?  do they have a boot of the show?

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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 12:29:24 -0600
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howdy gang...

i'll be at the madison show tomorrow night and was wondering if the tour
stuff booth takes plastic or are they dealing with cash only. i know i paid
cash during the summer shows but never bothered to ask if plastic was an
option.

also, how much are the snowflake shirts that are being talked about?

thanks muchly,
deb

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subject:      re: new thread...children and ig (long)

in a message dated 97-11-19 09:21:57 est, you write:

<< hi again.  just was curious as to how many of the listees have children
and what they think of our love of the indigo girls music. >>

hey y'all,

just another indigo mom weighing in: my boy is 4 and my little girl is 2.
both of them love ig, especially chickenman, which they sing together.
bailey, the boy, also likes shame on you and get out the map.  he asked me
the other day when he can learn to play the guitar "really"!

on another note, have y'all noticed how emily coins words in her songs?  my
husband pointed this out to me.  even though he is not a big fan of their
music, he really admire's ig's songwriting, especially emily's.  some
examples:  "languageless" connection, "withoutyouness", and "clean-slated."
can y'all think of any more?

peace,

pam in nicely chilly dallas!

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i went overboard sunday so i have a pair of tickets for anyone that wants
them.  face value, $26 each.

balcony r 213 and 214.

heather

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i've been reading what everyone's been saying about their kids and the
ig music.  i don't have kids yet, but i definitely plan to expose my
kids to their music and all music.
my parents exposed me to all kinds of music, mainly country and motown,
and they produced two kids with different tastes -- one
phish/funk/hard-core guitar-playing kid and one
whiny/folky/meaningful-lyrics kid, that one being me. unfortunately, my
family doesn't like ig, or really anything that i like for that matter.
in exposing my kids to the girls music someday, when i have some kids, i
think it will help instill certain values and ideas that i find
important. i always see their music as very globally orientated, as in
the rights of all people and the reverence for the land.   i will want
my kids to see how important it is to be conscious of others as
individuals with rights.  i will want them to respect the differences of
others and celebrate individuality.  that's that, in a nutshell.
as for the aliens, this relates to chicago.  something strange did go on
that night.  apparently, we saw space debris coming into the atmosphere,
or something like that, as we traveled south from the show, and we also
lost some time, doing our drive in less than 3 hours driving slower than
we did on the way up, which took 3 1/2 hours.
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hey deb:

the merchandise booth here in ohio only accepts cash.  i was semi-bummed
because all i had was my plastic.  glad you asked so that you would be
prepared, as i washnt.  have fun!!

lori

>i'll be at the madison show tomorrow night and was wondering if the tour
>stuff booth takes plastic or are they dealing with cash only. i know i paid
>cash during the summer shows but never bothered to ask if plastic was an
>option.
>
>also, how much are the snowflake shirts that are being talked about?
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>thanks muchly,
>deb
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ok,
  if you recall my ramblings of the past week, you'll remember i said i was
lucky enough to get a set list from each of the chicago shows.  well, i was
thinking that maybe some of you might like a copy, so i scanned them both in
and printed them out for whoever would like one (or one of each.)  the nov.
17th concert has drawing etc on the set list, don;t

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oops... wasn't done yet..
as i was rambling on... i was saying the nov. 17th show has drawings on it,
it's cute, don't know if it was either of the girls goofing around or
what.... but you never know.

if any of you are interested e-mail me privately and let me know.

mjg

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did anyone boot it??  anyone??  anyone??  bueller???

the one thing that i regret is that i didnt bring my deck in with me.
greggykins was right, he coulda brought in his mazda and no one woulda
noticed.  hell, no one would have noticed it if i paraded in my home stereo
system on top of a circus elephant.

the chicago setlists for both nights were great. unbe-fnarkin-lievable  i
especially want a copy of "here i am" on tape.  so does anyone have
it?????? arghhhh....
please help.
---sue

p.s.  does anyone have a recent, clear copy of "winthrop"???

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they had plastic and cash booths in nashville...which i thought was cool-
and the snowflake shirt is $35 i think...it probably depends on the venue
space as to whether they take cash or credit, wouldn't you think? then
again, the ryman theatre is very tiny..so who knows.

but that's all i know (sad and revealing) ;)

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"things have started to get out of control" -- melissa ferrick

ok i've been swamped with requests and i have every intention
of copying these tapes for everyone who wants them, however i
need to take care of the current set of trades first.  so if i haven't
specifically responded to you, i'm not ignoring you (well, ok so i am)
i'm just dealing with the first 50 or so people.

the scoop is that i am going to handle the least compilated mix
before i even think about the pity party mix, so hold your fire on that
one.  i anticipate finishing the first round in a couple weeks, then
i'll
open the floor back up for everyone else.  for those i've responded
positively to, please send your tapes quickly so i can hit that
deadline.

"it's all in the timing and the placement of words" - melissa again
(gee wonder what i'm listing to right now??)

thanks for your patience on this matter.  back to your regularily
scheduled flamage.

p.s.  to deb reiser -- i used plastic at red rocks this summer,
perhaps it depends on the venue?  you could try calling them.
and please tell me the girls are going to be in l.a. the end
of january!  (this worked last time.. :)

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i've heard everyone mention ig boots.  how do you make one?  i
don't have any type of recorder that's conventional for music,
like a sony cd or even a full-sized cassette recorder.  i just
have those little micro-cassette thingy's and they don't sound
too good recording music. hehe :)

what does everyone you use?

- rick

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does anyone know where i can find drum tablature to
any ig songs?  if so, please e-mail me privately.

thanks,
melissa

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okay...i'm a dork...

i haven't posted to the boston list in a while and i forget the address to
send it to, and when i send it to igbston@aol.com it says that the user is
unknown... if one of you cool baigls could clue me in i would greatly
appreciate it.

thank you,
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hey folks a few quick questions/comments:

first, mpls show tonight!  ahhh!  i'm so
excited, i'm going to bring my camera, security
is super lax, but i'm wondering a few things....

is anyone booting the show, and does anyone know
how long the show'll be?  (how long are most of
their shows?) and how much is all the general
merchandise, not just that snowflake thing, and
who's opening?

thanks, amanda

ps nicg: does anyone on this list speak swedish?
please em privately if so....


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happy wednesday everyone,

thought you might be interested in what our two major dailies had to say
about the chicago shows.  the trib reporter was there monday  -- he was
right in front of me at will call to pick up tickets, but i refrained from
asking him for a job ;) the sun-times reviewed sunday's show.  btw, these
are reprinted without permission (i will burn in j-school hell for this one).

kate.

chicago tribune, november 19, 1997

headline:  indigo girls  closer than ever to fine

byline: by lou carlozo, tribune staff writer.


   after more than a decade of relentless touring and honing their live act,
the  indigo girls  have ascended a folk-rock throne. at this point, who
could blame them if they threw the road show into cruise control and rode
out life on top of the pops?

   thankfully, complacency does not fit amy ray and emily saliers. to the
contrary, monday night's  rosemont  theatre show was a communal event, with
the stars handing their stage over to unsung talents and their catchiest
choruses to the crowd for sing-alongs. when it was their moment in the
spotlight, ray and saliers took chances, showcasing less accessible cuts
from their latest album, "shaming of the sun."

   from the opening chords of "secure yourself" to the set closer "least
complicated," the  indigo girls'  crystal harmonies and strident guitars
chimed without fail. while some songs adhered faithful to the hit single
format, others were colored with subtle dynamic changes to give them added
life. such was the case on "hammer and a nail," stripped back to its
acoustic essence, augmented by spare percussion and saliers' slightly
altered vocal melody.

   ray brandishes the more frayed voice of the two, and she used it to full
effect on a new number, "scooter boys." her pleading and the insistent
pounding of bassist sara lee and drummer jerry marotta swirled into a
musical whirlpool reminiscent of neil young's crazy horse. the song's
brevity left the listener yearning for a more; as it turned out, the pent-up
energy was released later on with a cover of young's "down by the river."
saliers had the formidable task of soloing on this tune, but did a fine job.

   the duo switched guitars often, with saliers doubling on banjo and ray
playing mandolin. not all their sonic experiments worked: the drum machine
intro of "shed your skin" seemed disjointed and forced, but things quickly
rebounded on "cut it out," a haunting mediation that melted into the young
cover.

   one of the night's most triumphant moments came when the band brought out
an old friend, kelly hogan, to sing kris kristofferson's hit "help me make
it through the night." hogan's name may not ring any bells, but her sweet,
yearning twang and impressive control coaxed the crowd to its feet for a
standing ovation.

   the  indigo girls  also imported a fine opening act from columbia, s.c.:
danielle howle and the tantrums dished a swampy stew that contained dashes
of jefferson airplane, janis joplin, southern alternative and angular
jazz--the result emerging as tasty and brashly inventive. performing songs
from "do a two sable" (on ray's daemon records label) howle fronted her band
with quirky, hyperactive charisma and charm.


chicago sun-times, november 18, 1997

headline:  indigo girls  at the  rosemont  theatre

byline: rod o'connor

   acoustic folk rock was hardly in vogue when the  indigo girls  came on
the scene in the '80s, but the duo garnered major-label attention, thanks to
breakthrough hits then by fellow singer-songwriters tracy chapman and
suzanne vega. likewise, it was the early success of the  indigo girls  --
amy ray and emily saliers -- that helped pave the way for sheryl crow, sarah
mclachlan and the rest of today's generation of female rockers.

   the largely one-dimensional lilith fair crowd can only hope to attain the
longevity of the  indigo girls,  whose performance sunday evening (repeated
monday) at the  rosemont  theatre showed that they have evolved into more
than just a folkie act. five years ago, an  indigo girls'  concert meant
beautiful vocal harmonies, but not much more as rabid fans waited patiently
for the traditional closing rendition of "closer to fine."

   ray and saliers still like to end with their most popular song, but now
they also do a decent impression of neil young with crazy horse. when
saliers shed her banjo for an electric guitar during the energetic opener,
"shame on you," she set the tone for the evening. the duo's accomplished
vocal harmonizing still is the heart of their live show, but sunday, the set
also featured plenty of classic rock riffs, a harmonica jam session and
stream-of-consciousness poetry a la jim morrison.

   non-stop touring has turned the  indigo girls  into polished performers,
shifting gears from ballads to rockers and back again. they were at their
best when applying their newfound guitar muscle to rousing versions of such
hits as "galileo" and "tried to be true." also notable was guest vocalist
kelly hogan, a former georgian now living in chicago, whose inspired
crooning of the classic country song "help me make it through the night"
stopped the crowd dead in its tracks.

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sorry to have to post this to the list, but it's really the only way........

i have had some e-mail probs today.  i had composed a buncha new mail
when my computer decided to reboot itself without my permission and i
lost it all.  i just need anyone involved in this to look over these little
categories and follow the appropriate course of action (if any).  thanks to
all and sorry about the nigc and bandwidth.

this is all according to my records:

i have trades worked out with the following people for the vh1 lilith:
(when i say "worked out", i mean that we are both ready to dub and send)

mjg333@aol.com
valkyrie7@juno.com
cheesehed@juno.com
er006@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
kt14017@cedarnet.org
spinsker@goucher.edu (maybe still pending details- is this right?)
grnpeace@fullnet.com
and of course, tiffany (but your email is too long to type in :)
if your name is on this list and it belongs on this list, then you
don't need to do anything.  i have all of these trades recorded in a
boot trade log.  if, however, you're on here and you don't think it's
right- definitely let me know so i can fix it.  of course, also let me know
if you're supposed to be on here but aren't.

okay, next category:
there are a few who i thought i had responded to initially, but realized i
hadn't; i composed new messages to all of you but i think i lost most of
them when my computer started thinking for itself.  java, i know you
were one of them and i can't contact you privately (or any of these others,
for that matter) because i got a little delete-happy and lost them all.
(addys)
so, the bottome line is:  if you are still interested and haven't already
caught this show on rerun, feel free to email me again and we can start
this over.   (i think this was like maybe 3 people total).

next:
donna:  i couldn't get to your boot list online.  it said, "blah, blah, blah,
no available on this server".  i tried it twice to be sure.  could you send
that
to me as an attached file or something?  thanks.

if there's anyone i missed, let me know.  sorry, again to have to post
this to everyone.  please don't kill me.

thanks,
leigh ann

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subject:      re: wild, wild party
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yes, i actually heard this song for the first time after the dayton
show...we were all back at the hotel, just hanging out when don richards
played it for me! i loved it...it was soooo cute! i have to get the cd.

at 08:33 pm 11/18/97 -0600, justin shumaker wrote:
>okay, has anyone heard the song "wild, wild party in the loquat tree" by ig?
>
>i was loitering in cdnow, and found this compilation album from 1993 called
>"put on your green shoes".  on it is the song i just mentioned.
>
>considering myself fairly well-versed in all things ig, i marvelled at my
>complete lack of familiarity at this song.
>
>anyone heard it?  insights?
>
>justin
>who just saw the vh1 lilith special and was quite pleased
>

heather a *founder of babstalk mailing list*
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i owe them my sanity.  listening to the indigo girls was my first step
towards coming out.  although it would be neat to meet them one day, and i
do enjoy hearing people's stories about meeting them, i don't think that
it's that important for me.

"everybody loves a hero; an image to create.  antithesis of everything
inside ourselves we hate....but you'd better close your eyes when it's
time for them to die.  'cause you'd hate to think the life you'd built
upon them was a lie....."

i'd much rather keep them distant from me because i need my heroes like
that and they stop being heroes when i see them in their humanity.

they don't owe me nuthin'!  and i'm going to keep it that way.

:)
anna

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subject:      re: again, did anyone boot chicago? (sigc)
x-to:         skwan@midway.uchicago.edu

not to make this a me too post, but i'd die for a boot of both
shows....if i could i would personally come and tape it to save the
hassle...but i would die for a boot of the shows.  if anyone has it
anyone anyone, please let me in on this...

please
thanks in advace,
deana
on wed, 19 nov 1997 14:46:05 -0600 chiquita sue
<skwan@midway.uchicago.edu> writes:
>did anyone boot it??  anyone??  anyone??  bueller???

>the chicago setlists for both nights were great. unbe-fnarkin-lievable
>please help.
>---sue
>
>p.s.  does anyone have a recent, clear copy of "winthrop"???

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so someone - don't remember who - posted that it looked like the girls had both
had haircuts in the past few days - and the remark was amy had been to
supercuts.....

just because i won't be seeing them until they decide to grace nc with their
presence again (which will be a long time believe me - it always is) and not
because i am trying to be nosey or get all in their personal business i am
asking the following -

what does a bad haircut on two of the most phenomenal women i could know look
like????

just wondering - and avoiding work....b

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i thought some people might be interested in this despite its nigc status:

>>barbara walters will host the fifth edition of "the 10 most
fascinating people" tuesday, dec. 2.  the program will feature
secretary of state madeleine albright, sitcom star ellen degeneres,
cloning scientist dr. ian wilmut, dancer michael flatley, federal
reserve chairman alan greenspan, movie star arnold schwarzenegger,
singer elton john, golfer tiger woods and kathie lee gifford.  in case
you can't make up your own mind, the most fascinating person will be
announced during the show. (ny post)

i just have one thing to say...  kathie lee?

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subject:      plea to tigger...

tigger...if you are anywhere out there...could i please have your homepage
address??..please?? it's an awesome page...and somehow i deleted it out of my
favorite places and now i can't get back..:(   thanks in advance.
jenni
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didn't we do a thread like this earlier this year?? i'm sure we did....

i can't recall if i contributed then....

my sister is 15 and my proudest junior convert. we play their songs on
guitar together all the time (hi florence - i'll get back to your mail real
soon!) and i think it quite annoys my mum when i'm over there. comments
like, 'don't you know anything other than indigo girls songs?" "there's
more music around that indigo girls music you know" really tell me so much.
she knows they're gay and (not to stereotype christians) but my mum's
religous world view says this is simply not on. i think she resents that
her 15 year old daughter is listening to this'gay music' - god i just never
thought of it as gay music!! if there is such a thing really....she even
went so far as to buy fiona a 'savage garden' cd (for those not in the know,
this is a new aussie band, two young guys, making it big in europe and
here with a euro-pop retro 80s sound...yuk..). fee listens to it once a
week so that mum thinks she likes it but plays ig the rest of the time and
works out the tabs by herself. it makes me feel so proud. :-)

helen

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greeting indigo fans!
for those of you that are interested, the latest edition of tv guide
(november 22-28) contains an article entitled "fair play" featuring sarah
mclachlan talking about the lilth fair.  she talks about some of the other
performers including the indigo girls.  she talks about her being a social
moron, barely introducing herself to people as the tour went on...until she
came across none other than amy and emily.  she is quoted in saying "we
needed someone to mix things up and they did it in a great way".  there is
even a small picture of the girls performing.
just and fyi for you all.

nancy

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ok with all the competition between the baigls and the
chicago counterparts, i think we in the west need to
organize.  anyone in the denver/boulder/colorado/
rocky mountain area interested in having a local mailing
list?  and possibly having ig related get togethers?

and for a title i was thinking caramia - colorado
area rocky mountain indigo association
any other suggestions??  my brain fried on that one.

elizabeth from the carms

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this ran a week before the concert...  sun concert review pending, and that
one is a hoot.  lowell at its plebeian
("thathotshotjackkerouacwasnothingbutadrunkenloutandidon'tseewhatthebigdeali
s") best.  <sigh> you'll see.  ;)

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the lowell [ma] sun
sunday, october 19, 1997

busy times for the indigo girls
by david perry, sun staff

        record label honcho, social activist, fervent supporter of
independent music, the alto half of one of pop's most successful duos.
        but on this day, a little more than 24 hours before kicking off a
monthlong tour that stops at lowell memorial auditorium on oct. 26, amy ray
is an indigo girl shaking a cold.  still, ray is undaunted, even by the
venue she'll be playing the following evening, nashville's historic ryman
auditorium.
        it has been a full summer for ray and musical partner emily
saliers--a pay-per-view from great woods last june, several dates on the
lilith fair tour, the release of a fine new album, shaming of the sun.
        wanna really get her going?  talk to ray about the issues that have
captured her passion, incluidng supporting native american environmental
groups through honor the earth tours, plus two recent dates with jackson
browne and bonnie raitt that raised the profile of muse (musicians united
for safe energy).  though she can't engage in causes to the exclusion of all
else ("after three days of doing this... i have to sit and watch cartoons
for a day," she said recently), ray is a true believer.
        "i don't know if it's the music that makes the change," she says by
phone from her home outside atlanta, ga.  "the music's the tool that brings
people together.  and you can sort of plant that inspiration, expose people
to an issue.  in that sense, it's a folk  thing, a community organizing
tool.  and sometimes, you can do it in a more hard-hitting way, like rage
against the machine.  so with kids, it might sink in later."
        ray, 33, first joined forces with 34-year-old saliers in high school
in decatur, ga.  originally known as saliers and ray, they changed their
name to indigo girls in 1983, while attending emory university.  ray's smoky
alto and sailers' [sic] warm, honeyed soprano blend beautifully to deliver
lyrics that run from new agey [sic] to environmentally-conscious to those of
people on a spiritual journey.  the music is as simple as double-strumming
of acoustic guitars or as complex as folk-rock wtih a world music edge.
(the current band features bassist sara lee and drummer jerry marotta.)
        ray says writing is a solitary duty.
        "writing doesn't tend to be part of our partnership.  we write
separately.  and i think that helps the partnership work.  so when we're
ready to record, we go in and work on each other's songs.  it gives us
breathing room, too.  emily has her identity and i have mine and we both
appreciate what the other one does."
        ray is the more spontaneous songwriter,  more the rocker of the two.
        "i write a lot of things each day, even if it's just an image that
captivates me," says ray.  "so if i talk to my grandmother about something
and she says something interesting, i'll go and write it down.  even if it's
just fragments, i'll sit down every day, or try to.  and i go back and look
at the stuff i've written.  things come out of that, lyrics, and i'll see
what happens."
        first thought, best thought?
        "i definitely do write down my first thoughts, but they're not
always my best."
        shaming of the sun's bouncy first single, "shame on you," was a
celebration of diversity, inspired by "a part of town i love to go where
there are a lot of hispanic people and it's really alive," says ray.  "it's
always kind of happening there.  going there always cheers me up."
        the duo's six albums have garnered five grammy nominations and drawn
such collaborators as r.e.m., rolling stones keyboardist chuck leavell and
jane siberry.  "but in terms of sales, we just get to a certain point and
don't go past that.  which is fine.  we're just not a top 40 band."
        ray also runs atlanta-based daemon records.
        "i'm so bad it it [sic], in terms of the business," she says with a
laugh.  "the music part is so fun for me, but doing that can be something of
a financial nightmare."
        she says the summer's lilith fair tour, a gathering of female acts
by singer sarah mclachlan which, intentionally or not, countered the
increasingly testosterone-fueled lollapalooza fests.
        lilith was "the most fun we've ever had.  the comraderie [sic] was
amazing.  and you get to meet someone like jewel, who we just enjoyed.
she's such a kind person.  i'd definitely do that again as long as it
maintains that spirit and doesn't get too hyped."

caroline aiken will open the lowell show at 8 p.m.  tickets remain available
at $28.50.  call the auditorium at 454-2299.

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new agey?  what, does he mean eiiot?  and they "just enjoyed" jewel?  "she's
such a kind person" seems a gentle way of--aw, never mind, i know y'all are
probably her fans and my hiney isn't fireproof.  :)  ("these days
*every*body loves grrrrrrrrrrllllllllllllllllls with guitars........ ;)

h

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subject:      attn: one who offered me geneseo nov 2 boot

sorry to all the listees for  this, but i need to find the girl who said she
could help me get a copy of the geneseo boot on nov 2....
you sent me an email with your address and through the wonderful efforts of
my computer knowledge i somehow deleted it and your previous messeage, i
can't remember your email address either.         please email me again.
  thanks ya'll..
amy s.

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subject:      videos nigc

hey everybody....
i am once again, sorry for wasting bandwidth, but i need to ask a favor.  for
a project we are doing we need some videos of disappear fear and lift (just
for clips for school, none of this will be for anything of profit or
whatever). if anybody knows if they have any available through merchandising
or if anybody has any shows they would be willing to trade please let me
know, i would be very very grateful.  thanks.

peace
sasha

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can i have it too?-chels

at 05:59 pm 11/19/1997 -0500, you wrote:
>tigger...if you are anywhere out there...could i please have your homepage
>address??..please?? it's an awesome page...and somehow i deleted it out of my
>favorite places and now i can't get back..:(   thanks in advance.
>jenni
>buddy45687@aol.com
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the lowell sun
monday, october 27, 1997

indigos close to fine at auditorium
by david perry
sun staff

        amy ray had just finished introducing bassist sara lee and drummer
jerry marotta when she added that a "special guest" would join her and
indigo girls partner emily saliers for the next song.
        so when the band kicked into "tangled up in blue" ...wait, you
didn't think.
        ...ah, _c'mon!_
        no, stupid, it was just road manager david ellison, who added some
bluesy harp.  still, the long version was one of the highlights of last
night's indigo girls concert at lowell memorial auditorium.
        of course, dylan is close to the hearts of ray and saliers, whose
songwriting clearly owes him a debt.  the duo's 90-minute performance mostly
stuck to what the indigos do best--folk-rock, rendered with the weave of
saliers' and ray's voices, a mix of soft and rough, edgy and
straightforward.  a good chunk of the set was plucked from the duo's latest
_shaming of the sun_ disc, and only a couple of times, such as in "cut it
out," did they veer off into overwrought singing and playing.
        and while the show was far from a sellout (we surely would have
expected more than the 1,800 who turned up at the 2,900-seat auditorium),
saliers and ray were constantly joined in song by a good chunk of the
enthusiastic, mostly college-age audience.  (umass lowell co-sponsored the
show.)
        the crowd was mostly female, too--one thing you don't have to worry
about at indigo girls shows is li nes at the men's room.
        with impeccable support from lee and marotta, saliers and ray opened
with a rousing slice of folk rock, "shame on you," that had the whole place
standing, dancing, and singing along.
        thanks to the fans, the energy level for even the softer tunes was
maintained.  ray wore a smile on her face through much of the show,
apparently buoyed by the fans who sang along with her lyrics
        saliers switched from banjo to acoustic guitar to electric slide
guitar to dulcimer, while ray strummed away on acoustic and electric guitars
and mandolin.  they are not spectacular musicians but they play well enough
to get the job done.  what they miss in flash is compensated for with feel.
        veteran bassist lee, on the other hand, is a masterful player and
even her brief pennywhistle solos were a delight.
        the duo had hardly anything to say between songs.  ray muttered
something about lowell being "cool," though frankly i couldn't make out
anything else she said.
        but for this observer, the show's clear highligh was the two-song
encore.  ray and saliers brought out opening act and longtime chum caroline
aiken, who joined the duo for crisp, gorgeous harmonizing on a genlte cover
of blind faith's "can't find my way home."  with a dusky, bluesy voice that
can sound a lot like ray's, aiken is a wonderful addition to the indigos'
yin-yang harmonies, aiken styed on for the evening's inevitable closer,
"closer to fine."
        at 45 minutes in the audtiorium, aiken's set ran too long, but she
would hvae slayed a coffeehouse crowd. a wonderful guitar player whose
voice, folk-blues style and picking have earned her comparisons to bonnie
raitt, aiken lacks raitt's poise and presence.  but if the indigos ever
expand the act, she's a natural.
________________________________________________________

calling the reader "stupid"?  mr. constipation here probably spent a lot of
time in the aforementioned men's room--maybe that explains why he wasn't at
the same concert i was.  "what they miss in flash"???  where were his
seats???  so cut it out, r&j, sb, and chickenman were just "close" to fine?
maybe "overwrought" is apt, but i thought that was called passion.  like,
whatever major loser!  :)

luv, h

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subject:      re: lilith on vh1:sheryl

ummhmm, and all i know is sheryl, you need to take that hat off before i come
and jump on ya. (whoa, what a babe!!!!!!!!!!!)

michelle, wondering where the heck that came from. sorry, just had to tell
ya'll what a fine lookin' woman i think she is. damn!!!

p.s sheryl and heidi fleiss are twins in my opinion and i think heidi is hot
too.

<<  when she sings... sometimes the beginning of her phrases have this sort
of hook in her voice.... almost like she draws out the syllables... it's
distinctively sheryl crow... i don't know how to put it in singer's terms. i
guess that's why i thought amy calling it "that sheryl crow thing" was so
funny...

ok... so maybe my sense of humor is just that strange.
alicia >>

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  i went and bought(and quickly returned) alana's version of "32
flavors". at first i was deeply traumatized. how could a song that was
once a symbol of anti-establishment and incredible independence deform
into this hyped media piece of crap?  how could ani let this happen?
       then it just all became way to humorous. especially the added
lyrics! if alana only knew what an ass she is making of herself. i even
stayed to listen to the other track. i might have forgiven her if she was
talented. but she has the most annoying voice and is an incredibly bad
songwriter with horrid lyrics.
  my $1.35 for the day.
ben

" i am 32 flavors and then some.
  i am looking for truth and there is none"
-alana davis
"well, at least not in your music,sweetie"

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are all the atlanta people on the list planning to meet at the indigo girls
concert one of the nights?-chels

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hey any other brisbane fans who may be lurking out there!  i just found out
the date for ig's brisbane show!!  they're playing 24 february at the
concert hall at qpac.  tickets go on sale monday!

have you heard anything about sydney yet, sherlyn?

shelley (who is so excited she doesn't know how she's going to work today!)

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on wed, 19 nov 1997, elizabeth wrote:

> ok with all the competition between the baigls and the
> chicago counterparts, i think we in the west need to
> organize.  anyone in the denver/boulder/colorado/
> rocky mountain area interested in having a local mailing
> list?  and possibly having ig related get togethers?
>
> and for a title i was thinking caramia - colorado
> area rocky mountain indigo association
> any other suggestions??  my brain fried on that one.
>
> elizabeth from the carms
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that's a beautiful idea. montana's in! too bad we don't get them here more
often. oh well...having to wait makes it so much sweeter when they do
grace us with their prescence.

amy m.

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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 22:44:07 -0500
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from:         cathy lynn <delastraw@aol.com>
subject:      recent concert reviews

so, all you people in indigo land, with all the recent concert reviews
there's been no mention of any broken strings...have they finally made a
string that not even amy could break?  just wonderin'...........

back to the wonderful state of lurkdome.......

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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 23:23:12 -0500
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subject:      u2 tix for friday to sell asap (nigc sorry)

my friend carla bought tix for u2 in new orleans this friday, but she cant go
because the high school football team he coaches won (the nerve) and they
have to go to state finals or something like that.  the bottom line is:

2 tickets for u2

17th row (floor)

this friday

face value of $54 or best offer

email me now if you want them.  i'll give you her phone number to call her &
work out the details.  serious takers only - must sell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks for your patience :)

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 23:56:45 -0500
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i just want to say a great big thank you to all the folks who replied to
my plea for info on the louisville show.  i got my tickets on monday (balcony 3,
row q) and i"m taking a friend of mine who has only seen a&e once (rop tour)
and she is really excited about this show.  you guys are so great and i hope
i get to meet some of you at the show!

peace,

joan :-d

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 00:07:34 -0500
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subject:      broken strings...

in message <971119224407_259935005@mrin40.mail.aol.com>  writes:
> so, all you people in indigo land, with all the recent concert reviews
> there's been no mention of any broken strings...have they finally made a
> string that not even amy could break?  just wonderin'...........

i've been to 6 shows since october 25th (umbc, binghamton, utica, geneva,
geneseo, and ann arbor) and not one broken string in the bunch.  i hadn't
thought about it, but amy's playin' is *definately* not getting any mellower, so
i guess the strings must be gettin' stronger, huh?  and speaking of
"non-mellowness", has anyone else noticed the black duct tape-like patch on the
lower part of amy's mandolin?  obviously it's cause she's beaten the heck out of
it for so long that the wood is finally surrendering, but i was just wondering
if this is something typical that people do to instruments?

marivel (a curious former violin player who never got to stick cool stuff on her
instrument)

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 16:09:04 +1100
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subject:      ig dates in oz
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hi folks,

well, i've been poking around and it looks like there are
three ig dates listed in australia so far:

* 21 feb 1998, melbourne concert hall, melbourne vic
        tix onsale 24/11/97 (next mon) from ticketmaster

* 24 feb 1998, queensland performing arts centre, brisbane qld
        tix onsale 24/11/97 (next mon) (ticketmaster i think
        but don't quote me on that)

* 26 feb 1998, state theatre, sydney nsw
        tix onsale 2/12/97 9.00am from firstcall

i will definitely be at the sydney and melbourne shows,
canberra as well (i couldn't find any date but they wouldn't
miss the nation's capital i'm sure).  maybe brisbane, maybe
other cities too - have to see how the rest of the dates
fall out, and what time i can get off work etc etc etc

if people in other cities (hey helen) could have a look
around for other tour dates (i had a quick look, but i wasn't
sure which venues or ticket agencies to look for), we can
start planning our road trip... :)

what a great week this is shaping up to be! :)
sherlyn
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        i think amy said something about the string breaking thing
getting a little old, and not being quite as hard on her guitars, but i
haven't really seen evidence of that...where can i get some of those
unbreakable guitar strings?

sarah (who hasn't figured out how to do that yet either- and whose band
had a practice the other night and she knew she needed new strings but
didn't realize how badly until halfway through one of her songs *three*
strings went snap like striking snakes and  who would have been whining
about the cut that one of them left on her hand if she hadn't been so
excited about pulling an amy)
spinsker@goucher.edu

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date:         wed, 19 nov 1997 21:54:39 -0500
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subject:      re: lilith on vh1

it looked like roast beef!

on wed, 19 nov 1997 12:09:35 -0500 amy cason <stu6361@westga.edu> writes:
>and what was it that smelled like barbies????
>

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 15:07:31 +1000
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oh thanks be to the goddess,

a date has just been announced for melbourne, australia in february.
tickets on sale tuesday at ticketmaster.

does anyone on the us or  here in oz know if it's just the girls again with
sarah lee or if we are going to get the full band this time?  i hope so.
all my fingers and toes are crossed that we will get the full show  :-)  i
am *one happy little vegemite (tm)*

lisa-lou

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to the person who found out dates for brisbane...where did you see these
dates??  did you see if canberra was on the list?? oh please god let them
play canberra again????


helen - crossing her fingers.....

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> on wed, 19 nov 1997 12:09:35 -0500 amy cason <stu6361@westga.edu> writes:
> >and what was it that smelled like barbies????
i think it was some sort of candy in a tin-- like peanut brittle, or those
pecan-and-caramel turtles.  i'm not sure--they were little triangle or
rectangle shaped pieces of something of a caramel color.
jill

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 01:25:31 -0400
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hey y'all-- can everybody please give a big welcome to my bestest friend
carol, who just joined the list after listening to me talk about it
for months...
i just kept forwarding her the good stuff and i think she cracked and gave
it, heh heh heh.
hey-- for any of you single gals out there--she is really cute!!!!  yahoo.
please flood her with loving emails, cause she is wunnerful (even if she
*is* studying plastics and polymer coatings technology--ooh, fun.  her
parents forced that one on her).  she's at eastern mich. u, for anyone in
the area (marivel?...)
yeah, woo hoo, yippy, my carol ann is here with me.  hee hee hee.
any interested parties, please feel free to flood her with emails
extolling the virtues of her adorable little self.  but note:  *no* "go
into the light, carol ann" jokes will be tolerated. ;)

other random stuff:  here's a funny coming-out dialogue my friend kate had
with her anal dad:

kate:  "i've got a tattoo... and i'm gay."
dad:  "you've got a *tattoo*?!"
kate:  (long blank 'did-you-just-hear-me?' look)
dad:  "but...but what if you go swimming with your..*straight* friends and
       they see the tattoo?"

hee.
jill

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subject:      long!! - not really igc but fun!  baigl's  'n'  schmeers  'n'
              things  -  take this chicago!
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hi all!

these fightin' words were recently seen on the list:

on 11/17/97 susan b. marine wrote:

>--- greg wrote(in reference to chicago):

>>   i mean there must have been at least 150 list members at this
>>gathering.  .....we clearly showed up boston's baigl party.
>
>*** whatevva! you guys can't even get it together enuff to have an
actual get
>together at someone's house, so you have to resort to the lobby of the
venue
>with the beer and boys?  we still win!!!!


then joni said:

>susan, what's that saying about quality vs. quantity?  hmmmm...think
think
>think....;o)


and then the "ultimate challenge" was issued from the heartland of
indigo...

susan.e.harney wrote:
>
> all right y'all....
> you think you're good up there?
> how about all of us from down home atlanta (or somewhere within a 200
mile
> radius of it) show them up??  anyone interested???


to which lynda retaliated:

>talk to us when you've distributed yer own group bootleg


and on that note...i thought that there could be no better time to
present this:

ehem!!

the boston area indigo girls list is proud to present...

                         (drum roll please)


        just a schmeer: the first annual baigl brunch benefit concert


just a who?  a schmeer of what?  what the h-e-double hockey sticks is a
schmeer anyway?  patience children and all will become clear.

way back in october, in a frenzy of mutual love and admiration, we wrote:

hi all!!
here we are, in my house (o my gawd!) eating, singing and
watching ellen and the grrls (at great woods) on tv
susib invited all these ppl over for a shindigo and a
small going away party for liz *sob! -- (anjeanette "hot ticket" milner)

i just gotta say that anjeanette is the funkiest baigl of all time for
hosting such a kick-ass pah-tee. she rawks! thanks to susan for
suggesting the idea in the first place. (and for the running commentary
throughout the first annual baigl benefit concert. "the f chord!") i just
want to say that all the baigls rawk out like no one i've ever spent time
with before. those of you boston kiddies who missed it really must have
had a boring sunday! i can't wait for the baigl boot to come out. a tree,
anyone? love, liz...  ; )  -- (elizabeth "she's dreamy" turcotte)

all of you made me feel so welcome--you're all
so beautiful and wonderful, and your presence, combined with the
exchanging
of music and laughter, truly did my heart good <snip> something
happened to me today....something wonderful...and it will haunt my memory
for years to come...thanks! =)  -- (kellie lin knott)

i am humbled and amazed
by the guitar goddesses kellie, jess and lizwhiz (still my idol).  i'd
pay
money to see the guitar grrls w/susan b. marine as lead vocalist--park
street t station, anyone?  -- (heather "dancin' machine" husted)

anj is indeed the "hot ticket" (gotta see the video of her dancing on the
bed!  woohoo!), and the hostess with the mostest.  fran's french toast is
to die for (even better than my ex-g/f's!). bob's chess playing is
awe-inspiring.  i actually saw her badass-ness, susan b. marine, blush
(she was sooo cute!).  liz is dreamy  and absolutely rawks on that
"fiddle" of hers!  as did jess and kelly!  (you go, grrls!!)   and of
course all of these magical moments, and more, have been captured on
audio tape by yours truly.  yes it's true, you too can actually own a
piece of baigl history (her-story?  no...too many guys there.  us-story?
ok, now i'm just being silly). details about "just a schmeer - the first
annual baigl brunch benefit concert" are forthcoming.  -- (me -
self-proclaimed boot goddess and all round flirty grrl)


and true to my word here it is.  no boot collection is complete without
it!  the perfect holiday gift for that special loved one!  highlights
include an original composition by the incomparable susan b. marine!  an
absolute "must have" for any sbmfc member!  and two original songs by
fellow listees jess cantelo and kellie knott that absolutely rawk!   so
without further ado...

the set list

side a
-----------
reunion
closer to fine
land of canaan
joking
shame on you
f chord (words, music, acoustic guitar (w/ a little help from liz) and
vocals: susan b. marine)
hey kind friend - intro only (anj helps out on dulcimer)
watershed (liz sits this one out.  even guitar goddesses get tired
sometime)
ghost
blood and fire
jonas and ezekial


side b
----------
don't give that girl a gun
galileo
i don't wanna know
grace (words and music: michelle malone)
the christians and the pagans (words and music: dar williams)
midnight train to georgia - intro only (words and music: james d.
wheatherly)
least complicated
kid fears
the highway song (words, music, acoustic guitar and vocals: jess cantelo)
hold up - last 30 secs cut (words, music, acoustic guitar and vocals:
kellie knott)

acoustic guitars - liz "she's dreamy" turcotte, kellie knott and jess
cantelo
vocals - pretty much everybody
all songs written by amy ray or emily saliers unless otherwise noted

and here are your tree branches.  well, ok it's really more of a sapling,
but remember...quality, not quantity.

fire (aries, leo, sagittarius)  --  fran  --  egan263@ix.netcom.com
earth (taurus, virgo, capricorn)  --  kellie  --
klknott@student.berklee.edu
air (gemini, libra, aquarius)  --  susan  --
susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu
water (cancer, scorpio, pisces)  --  heather  --  hhusted@bu.edu
anyone born of february 29th  --  me (dianne)  -- tuesdays-child@juno.com

oh, i almost forgot.  a schmeer is something (usually cheesy) spread on a
little thick.

to learn more about baigls or to become one yourself check out this
awesome page that our very own lizbian put together for us.

http://members.tripod.com/~dyke/igboston.html

"we're fresh and crunchy and we only bite if you want us to.  promise."

                                        h the concert slut(c) - 10/29/97
                                        [(c) susan b. marine, used with
permission]

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 01:43:42 -0500
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just heard that shawn colvin will be one of the guests on abc's "politically
incorrect" thursday night.  this should be cool - shawn gets to sound
off and wax philosophical, political, social, etc. etc.!  not sure what
time it comes on in various places around the country, but here in
nashvegas it comes on at 12:05 a.m. cst.

peace and happy viewing,

joan :-d

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 01:52:25 -0500
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while we are on the subject....

would someone please ask those two chicks...uh i think their names are
amy and emile ?
emily...yeah that's it. a brunette with a supercut and a redhead.
anyway they  keep following me around and it's really getting on my nerves.
i get to work and there they are holding up signs and shit.
"miss binky can we count trees with you ???"
whatever....i can't afford to hire them.
i get home and there they are ...wanting to hug me for the great job i do
counting trees and auditing tree planters....really i'm flattered, but hey,
i'm tired and wet and want to go take a shower.
then all night long in my front yard... singing...
"...iiiii cooome to yooouuuu with strange fiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrreeee...."
don't they have other things to do ?????
when i bought their cd's and went to their concerts i didn't think
this was part of the deal.
maybe i can hire dave ellison to keep them the hell away from me.
your help is greatly appreciated.
cordially,
miss b

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did anyone notice when amy said that she & emily never slept together, she
seemed upset, and then she mumbled, "that's what everyone wants to know,
right?"  just before emily says, "thank god!"

i personally felt a little ashamed for wondering the same thing a few years
back, as if it should matter.  that phrase by amy has haunted me since
then.  the way she said it made it seem like she's bombarded by that
question all the time, so she just wanted to get that out of the way and
move on to other questions in the interview.  emily said that she never
wanted them to be thought of as a "gay group" first, and secondly as
musicians, yet, by amy's reaction, i suppose that's what happened.

did anyone else catch that or have a different take on it?

by the way, i thought the things that smelled like barbies were some sort
of pastry.

> > >and what was it that smelled like barbies????
> i think it was some sort of candy in a tin-- like peanut brittle, or
those
> pecan-and-caramel turtles.  i'm not sure--they were little triangle or
> rectangle shaped pieces of something of a caramel color.

martha

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hi everyone!

i can't believe i'm sitting at this computer instead of crawling under the
covers, but i have to tell you about the minneapolis show tonight first!
if i would have know that security was soooo lax, i woulda brought a camera
and a recorder in with me...oh, well.  i was in the 3rd row--my closest
seats yet!  onto the show..

danielle howle & the tantrums opened and were entertaining.  i saw danielle
occasionally making faces at someone off stage...i'm wondering if it was
amy?

fashion report:  amy was wearing multicolored striped jeans and a striped,
button down shirt (tattoo very visible), emily was wearing a black button
shirt w/ dark green pants.  i'd tell you about jerry and sara, because i
honestly didn't look at them too much, but sara was wearing a white tshirt
and jerry was wearing a black shirt w/ white designs.!

i promised myself i'd memorize the set list, but i was too caught up in the
moment to really do that (sorry deb reiser!)  but on my 1 & 1/2 hour drive
home through the fog and snow, i thought very hard about it and i'm pretty
sure the following list is complete, though not in exact order. maybe
someone else out there can help w/ the order.  oh, they introduced "tina
and the b sides" (a minneapolis band) halfway through their set and left
the stage to let tina play a new song for us.  i think it was called "fall
from grace."  they also came out at the end and sang ctf, along w/ about 6
little girls, and the tantrums (but i didn't see danielle).  okay, here goes:

three hits
least complicated
tried to be true
power of two
shame on you
shed your skin
get out the map
thin line
--(tina & b sides)--
cut it out
-into down by the river
-back to cio
land of canaan
leeds
it's alright
scooter boys
-w/ soc
galileo
encore:
romeo and juliet
chickenman
closer to fine


after tina and the b sides left the stage, amy said something about how
liberace used to have someone else come out and perform halfway through his
set, and then said "we're just like liberace," and then paused and was
about to say something else and emily jumped in and said "yep, gay!"  it
was very funny.  the concert was very upbeat, they seemed to be having a
great time, as did the audience.  we only sat during a few songs.

if you've made it this far, i thank you for reading.  and for those of you
going to the madison show thursday night, see you there!

good night!

cheryl thiede
cheryl@discover-net.net

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 00:34:47 -0800
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hi all,

anyone out there from southern california want to play guitar some night?
just for fun?  i've wanted to jam with some other fans for a long time now
but never had a car.  well now i do, and also (if it's not too many
people) a place to jam at.  my house.  more specifically, my room because
i rent it from my lanlord.  but anyway, if you want to rock out
sometime, write me back.  i live in valencia.  or if you have a better
place you want to do it, that's cool.

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 07:08:26 pst
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amy broke a string in dayton.  can't remember what song, but it was pretty early in the show.

kim & rhea

look to the moon cause it's a fact
she may go wandering about
but she always comes shining back
e.s.

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subject:      new west coast and australian tour dates!

hi!

i haven't seen this posted yet, so maybe i'm one of the first to get this,
since i live in atlanta, and it doesn't take long for the mail to get to me
from decatur.

but if this is a repeat, please forgive me, as i'm on digest!

i got a new ig newsletter in the mail while i was gone, and in it are
included some dates for jan/feb/march.   it says "look for confirmation of
venues in these markets"

1/21, 1/22 - seattle
1/23 - seattle or portland
1/24 - portland
1/25 - portland or eugene
1/26 - eugene
1/27, 1/28, 1/29 - bay area
1/30 - santa barbara
1/31 - los angeles
2/1 - san diego
2/2 - san diego or phoenix
2/3, 2/4 - phoenix or tucson

australian tour
2/21, 2/22 - melbourne
2/24 - brisbane
2/26, 2/27 - sidney
3/2 - adelaide
3/4 - perth
3/6 - canberra

and they also say that they'll be also be doing high school, college and club
dates in the spring.  and *also* the lilith fair tour between june and
august.

great letters from a&e are included, as well as pictures from the hte tour!

i'm still in shock that i got this before the dates were past.

btw - i am back from my trip, but please hold off on requests for the book
signing boot.  i am swamped in dubbing right now, and can't handle any more
until i get caught up!  and i'm about halfway done with the transcription of
the audio.  i'll post it when i'm done =)

thanks!
=)
lisa

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i think it was baklava.

joy b

jami m klein wrote:
>
> it looked like roast beef!
>
> on wed, 19 nov 1997 12:09:35 -0500 amy cason <stu6361@westga.edu> writes:
> >and what was it that smelled like barbies????
> >
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subject:      re: this week's tv guide

yeah, check out the tv guide photo of a & e.  some bozo flipped the negative,
and has them not only on opposite sides, but playing left-handed as well.  oh
well, its a decent article, reflecting much of what was said on the vh-1
show.

terri

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cheryl wrote:

>  oh, they introduced "tina and the b sides" (a minneapolis band) halfway
> through their set and left the stage to let tina play a new song for us

i am *so* friggin' jealous of y'all who were at the mpls show.  being from
there myself, i've been following tina and the b-side movement for years.
these guys are *unbelievable.*  tina puts on the most energetic show i've
ever seen (ig and mle are the only ones who even come close).  she tours a
lot in the midwest, and if she's in your town, go see her!!!

the group has three albums out on tina's label, movement records, which are
pretty tough to find outside of minnesota.  however, their major-label debut
"salvation" is on elektra, and can be found just about anywhere.  one review
i read said, "if melissa etheridge and mick jagger had a child together, it
would be tina."

for all you chicago-area folks, they're playing at the double door this
saturday.  i'll be the one with the big ol' stupid smile on my face in the
front row, so come by and say hi :)

take care,
kate.

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 09:01:31 -0500
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subject:      re: lilith on vh1 - barbies and amy's comment

>did anyone notice when amy said that she & emily never slept together, she
>seemed upset, and then she mumbled, "that's what everyone wants to know,
>right?"  just before emily says, "thank god!"

in my opinion, amy did not seem upset at all and made the comment in
a very matter-of-fact way...if you've followed the girls for a long
time, you understand where the comment comes from because you see how
fans can get strangely obsessed with this issue...so amy, not having
any hang-ups on the subject, addresses it head-on in an uncharged
factual way.  i do think it must have seemed like kind of a strange
comment to people tuning in to the show who aren't big ig fans...and
it's like one of the first things they learn about ig...

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 09:14:07 -0500
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> date:    thu, 20 nov 1997 00:07:34 -0500
> from:    marivel danielson <marivel@m.imap.itd.umich.edu>
> subject: broken strings...
>
        > and speaking of
        >"non-mellowness", has anyone else noticed the black duct
tape-like >patch on the lower part of amy's mandolin?  obviously it's
cause she's >beaten the heck out of it for so long that the wood is
finally surrendering, >but i was just wondering if this is something
typical that people do to instruments?

i probably would if it was a crack right in the body that couldn't
really be fixed but most things can be...my mandolin is *72* years old,
and still kicking, after minor renovations: i don't know how hard it was
played before i inherited it, but i come from the amy ray school of
instrument beating...    duct tape fixes everything: the face fell off
my ($3 wal-mart) watch and i decided to wear the sucker into the ground
anyway. one of my professors asked if i was hinting at a new watch for
chanukah, but i'm just cheap...oh, and my mandolin and guitar *cases*
are both held together with duct tape too.

sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 06:12:53 pst
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oh kind friends, i cannot believe it.  i've seen people post messages
to the list about how they have lost all their data, and they need
people to re-send info, and i always shrugged it off, wondering if
maybe they just practiced sloppy "housekeeping."  well, my cavalier
attitude has come back to haunt me. (that or maybe it was the e.t.'s
from sunday night, i can't be sure.)
anyway, all my files in all my folders, in one split nanosecond, have
vanished.  so those of you who were going to send me stuff, or to
whom i was going to send stuff, etc. - i have no way to access the
relevant data.  so if you remember we were in the process of doing
some transaction or other, please email me.
i still can't believe this.  i'm in shock.  and looking for culprits,
like ferinstance that recent long file i got which just looked like
a whole bunch of code strung together when it was supposed to be
jokes.  hmmm...  i'm trying hard not to get paranoid.
thanks for letting me vent.
now i'm going to practice breathing. (in.  out.  in.  out.)
nic

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in art class at school, my 12 year old son had to design his own coat of arms.  my sons live with my exhusband so they show me their papers when we see each other on weekends.  imagine my surprise and delight to see his coat of arms.  he had made a badge and divided it into 4 sections.  in one there was a picture of my new house.  in another, a picture of us playing basketball (a common activitiy for us).  then there was a picture of me he drew.  in the fourth section, and my favorite, there was a picture of a & e playing their guitars.  he had written "ig" at the top of the page.  you think your kids aren't listening sometimes........but surprise!  they are!

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> in a message dated 97-11-19 09:21:57 est, you write:
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> << hi again.  just was curious as to how many of the listees have children
> and what they think of our love of the indigo girls music. >>

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 09:33:03 -0500
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subject:      dayton boot?  ann arbor?

hey guys!

     i was able to catch the shows in dayton and ann arbor recently...  they
were both great, but i have to say that the audience response at ud was much
better than at hill, so dayton was the better of the two shows.  and danielle
howle rocks!!  this was the first time i've seen her with her band... at the
end, during "closer to fine," when danielle was standing next to amy, my
friend molly and i held up the dh & the tantrums shirt i'd just purchased,
and amy and danielle both looked right at us... danielle was really thrilled
by that, and amy just looked at her and smiled really big.  the whole concert
was exhilerating... might even be the best ig concert i've ever been to.
  anyway,  my question is:  anybody get a boot of dayton or ann arbor?  i'd
love to add those two shows to my collection... maybe we can work out trades?


    one more question, for anyone who attended the ann arbor show:  they
talked a little more than usual at hill, but the sound system sucked, and
even though i was in the 6th row, i could hardly understand a word they were
saying... especially amy -- it souded like she was eating her mic. the whole
time.  i was just wondering if any of you had understood any of the comments
that were being made...    by the way,  at the point in shed your skin where
that loud bad note rang out for so long, amy walked over towards emily, and
somehow her chord came out of her strat... she looked very p-d off about
that... i don't know if that had anything to do with the bad noise or not,
but i think it might've, because when my chord comes loose, my amp lets out a
noise, too.  that's just a guess, though...( i really don't know that much
about electric guitars -- just sort of bought one on a whim a couple years
back. ) amy tried to play it off as if nothing was happening, even though she
knew that everybody was hearing it, and seeing her picking up the cord to
plug it back in.  but she shook it off quickly then, and went on... regained
her composure much faster than i could've, but then again, she makes her
living at this.   what she was saying to emily _after_ she plugged back in
and em started her little solo was, "it's too loud...   it's too loud!"  i
think em just sort of shrugged a little, like, "well yeah, but there's
nothing we can do about it... the song's already ruined... let's just play
through it and move on to the next song."  and it was too loud...  like i
said, the sound absolutely sucked at hill. worst i've ever heard.    anyway,
that's my $.02.  sorry i got so long-winded, but, hey, i hardly ever post
anymore... gotta make up for lost bandwidth somehow :)     thanks for
listnenin'...  if anyone knows anything about boots for dayton or aa, contact
me, okay?

peace,
lisa

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hey folks--

did anyone boot this show?  please please please
anyone....

ok, so secuity was tighter than i thought it'd
be, but i still managed four rolls of film...i
tried the trick of throwing tampons on top of
all my other shit and the guard was
like...."uh...can you move that?" my friend mark
said my face went:shit!, and that i looked
pretty bad when he started fondeling my clothing
(the shirt in the bag, not on me ;) but when he
asked "no cameras, tape recorders or bottles or
cans?"  i apparentely said "nope!" with a big
flirty happy trust-me grin.  mark said he
wouldda died on the spot.

i bashed my camera into the back of this chicks
head in front of me...i felt so bad...but i'm
gonna send her some photos....of four rolls, at
least some should turn out...(if you're on the
list, again, i appologize!)

i tried booting the show, but my tape-recorder
was funky and i missed danielle, and the quality
is pretty bad.  so did anyone boot this?

emily williams!  third grade classmate!  gay!
yes!  haven't seen her in 7 years and she's gay
and i was like so am i!  it was odd....

hey people, shut up during opening acts please...

these two girls in front of me wouldn't sit down
at all even when the rest of the auditorium
was...but oh well...

sara, btw, was wearing her red shoes!

ok....so r&j, chickenman, and scooter boys,
three hits...only having my lover there (she
lives in ga.  :(  ) and hearing bury my heart
wouldda made it any better...

crowd was pretty great, and i've never gotten so
sweaty at a concert....

great show,
amanda


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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 09:51:41 -0500
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subject:      reply to your comment earlier

someone had the ***### to ask why and comment that emily appeared stoned and
her eyes were red...i don't like to talk about the girls directly but i had
to hope the person is more resepectful next time before making that
assumption..maybe next time you will figure that perhaps, just perhaps she
had been crying one of their parents is very ill and please don't say that
you think she was stoned..
thank you

((to the guy who made that comment)))

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 10:13:38 -0500
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subject:      re: breaking strings

in a message dated 97-11-20 02:34:04 est, you write:

<< i think amy said something about the string breaking thing
getting a little old, and not being quite as hard on her guitars, but i
haven't really seen evidence of that...where can i get some of those
unbreakable guitar strings?
  >>
after the hte show in cola., sc, we were hanging with sulli a little bit and
she said that they had found "a secret weapon" to keep amy from breaking
strings.  she seemed a little surprised to hear that we were a little
disappointed that she didn't break so many anymore!  and she actually has a
story about emily breaking a string this year, i think maybe it was in
seattle?

peace,

pam

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hi folks.  sorry to waste bandwidth, but since i lost all the unread
mail (ig list and otherwise) from approx. midnight last night til
approx 8 am, there are a bunch of posts that were deleted from my
computer before i read them.  fool that i am, i'd like to catch all
these messages, so if somebody could forward the messages from that
period of time - this is probably about 15 or so messages (?), maybe
one of you digestees? - i'd really appreciate it.  thanks a bunch.
maybe check with me before you hit "send", so i don't end up with
half a dozen digest excerpts in the old box - (am i being optimistic
here or what?)
ok, i'm ready to do an amy ray and watch cartoons now.
nic

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hi all.  i may be the only one who feels this way, but who cares
if amy or emily smokes pot?  i think that it would be fine if they
did.  marajuana is not a terrible thing, and many people really
enjoy smoking it.  if a or e finds enjoyment in smoking pot, or
if it helps them "expand their minds" and write better songs,
let them smoke it.

on the new mongrels album, there are a couple of lines in "the
crazies" that emily and someone else sing that makes me think
that they do smoke pot:

(in the chorus)  "yes, and we ruled the rooftop stair
                          'cause we grew certain things up there"

make your own decision about what this is in reference to.
i personally believe they are speaking of marajuana.

my $0.02  (try not to flame too hard)

melissa

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it looked like baklava to me - yuck!!!  and didn't amy look really tall next to
lisa?

<<it looked like roast beef!<<

>and what was it that smelled like barbies????>>

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 10:39:42 -0500
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subject:      mystery food

>it looked like baklava to me - yuck!!!  and didn't amy look really tall next to
>lisa?
>
><<it looked like roast beef!<<
>
>>and what was it that smelled like barbies????>>


clearly someone needs to get the definitive answer to this
question so that it can be included in the faq :)  so if
anyone comes face-to-face with amy ray (or lisa loeb for
that matter) with nothing to say, you've now got a
conversation starter.

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 11:07:38 est
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subject:      gimme some o dat maryjane

--- melissa, my transylvania sister, wrote:
hi all.  i may be the only one who feels this way, but who cares
if amy or emily smokes pot?  i think that it would be fine if they
did.  marajuana is not a terrible thing, and many people really
enjoy smoking it.
--- end of quote ---
i don't care if they smoke pot, but it has been rumored to affect one's ability
to spell properly :)

sus
shocking!!!  someone from my alma mater thinks pot is ok? heh heh

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subject:      re: breaking strings

i read somewhere that amy had a new guitar tech, a guy, that she was really
happy with because she wasn't breaking strings as much.

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 10:31:28 -0700
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out of lurkdom:
if you look closely at the picture of the girls in tv guide, you will
see that it is backwards.  the first thing i noticed was that amy was
on the wrong side.  then i realized that it appeared they were playing
guitar left-handed.
cynthia

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 12:57:59 -0500
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subject:      tina and the b side movement...

i love tina and the b side movement...a friend of mine introduced me to their
music and i actually got to see them live twice in texas when they were
opening for sister 7 (another cool band with a cute lesbian frontwoman)...

i think that it is cool that the indigo girls let artists like tina and sonia
rutstein come out during their set and play...it introduces them to people
who don't know them...of course then you have times like when a&e let sonia
come out when they played at wolf trap in no. va...there were a lot of mad
people who didn't care about sonia..my g/f and i however were jumping around
cuz it was such an awesome surprise...


oh damn it..i'm rambling...

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 09:54:00 -0800
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thanks to my wunnerful girl friend, i am able to ( for a while anyhoo )
resubscribe to the list... i've really missed it + y'all... hope there're
some familiar faces ( err... names ) still doing this thang... can't wait to
hear the latest amy + emily news + get all caught up... or is this like a
soap opera??? ... you come back after missing a few months + you can
understand everything in minutes:)
peace... kim
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skin baby, let it through... comeonovernow!!!!... amy ray
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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 13:11:51 -0500
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>one more question, for anyone who attended the ann arbor show:  they
>talked a little more than usual at hill, but the sound system sucked, and
>even though i was in the 6th row, i could hardly understand a word they were
>saying... especially amy -- it souded like she was eating her mic. the whole
>time.  i was just wondering if any of you had understood any of the comments
>that were being made...    by the way,  at the point in shed your skin where

i didn't get to the ig's concert at hill, but i went to ani difranco's oct 14
concert there.  we had floor seats, on the right side (row p i believe).  we
heard everything just fine, but i had friends who were in the balcony and near
the middle floor and told me they couldn't hear anything spoken.  i guess it's
all where you sit there.  when i bought tickets the girl on the phone told me
"the hill is acoustically perfect" ... and maybe it is for live performances,
unamped, but i don't think it is with amps and stuff.  all they heard was
distortion and echo.

btw, has anyone heard of coco??sp??  she opened for ani and i would like to
get her cd but my local record store doesn't have it and i can't find her on
the web.  i think ani had just found her at chicago the night before, at least
that's what i picked up from others in the audience...

- rick

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 13:25:30 -0500
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subject:      ig looking glassy-eyed/booksigning

actually at the book signing the toic of illicit drugs was addressed.  both
amy and emily seemed to agree that they were more wary of synthetic drugs.
emily herself said, "yeah, i've smoked pot a few times, but it makes me
paranoid"  so she implied that she doesn't do it.  just that she tried it and
didn't really like it.  she did make a comment that she really liked budwiser
(?) though.

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 13:31:35 -0500
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subject:      opening acts...

what is it with people talking during the opening acts? i mean give me a
break...twice in the recent past i have gone just to see the opening
act...once was when the goddess ani was opening for dylan...some old hippies
behind me would not shut up...i turned around told them "can you please shut
the hell up cuz i only came to see her" and pointed to the green haired
goddess...then i saw garrison starr opening up for the refreshmants...the
people in the front of me and all around me were talking soooooo much that my
boot turned out like crap not too mention i was so distracted by them talking
i couldn't concentrate...blah blah blah

it happens all the time...people need to just shuddup...i know i'm not the
only one who feels this way

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 13:36:02 -0500
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betsy dennis <bdennis6@juno.com> wrote:


>i have a question................how long should i pathically wait by my
>mailbox to receive a boot i sent tapes for?

2 months is a long time.  and if the person is not returning your e-mails, i'd
expect to have to write that one off.  most reliable traders will at least let
you know that they haven't forgotten about you if it's taking longer than
expected.

=-=-=-=

rick c. hodgin <foxmuldr@indy.net> wrote:
>i realize that waiting after a concert and seeing them is
>different ... i mean who could pass up telling that phenominal
>news??!?!  :)  but some of the other stuff ... i don't know.

i don't recall seeing any "sighting" posts that weren't meetings (or
near-meetings) at shows... but the inquiry regarding emily's interest in
"partying" that followed your message definitely crossed over the "personal"
boundary laid out in the mailing list faq.

=-=-=-=

lauree shampine <shampine@ll.mit.edu> wrote:
>>did anyone notice when amy said that she & emily never slept together, she
>>seemed upset, and then she mumbled, "that's what everyone wants to know,
>>right?"  just before emily says, "thank god!"
>
>in my opinion, amy did not seem upset at all and made the comment in
>a very matter-of-fact way...

i agree completely.  if she was upset about anything, it's people's
fascination with the question.  i'm glad she answered it directly, i just wish
vh-1 hadn't ripped it out of context.  excellent special though, much more
than i'd hoped for... well, no, i'd hoped for a 2-hours special that would
have covered the b-stage acts too, but... :-)

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 14:04:07 -0500
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subject:      songlist

hey k.f,

could someone please send me privately the song list from history of us?
thanks ever so!

also, was reverse 1 - live recorded at the little 5 points pub?

peace,

pam (still shivering in dallas :-)

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 14:04:47 -0500
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hey y'all


i am going to try and get the sheas boot done as soon as i can, but my
computer burned up (yes, everything inside went "fry" literally....black
ash was everywhere, i have a scorch mark on my wall behind where my hard
drive sits...it is not pretty) and i lost half of
all of my graduate work i have been working on since august (please, no
lectures on the virture of floppy disks, i know!)  i just got a new one
but......

so, i have to get all my work re-done in the next week and the last thing
i am worried about is making boots and finding time to go to the post
office.  i also have no money because i had to buy some stuff for my
computer.  bear with me til next week and i should be caught up...

sorry once again.

peace-
karrie

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 14:20:15 -0800
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lost yer addy..could ya drop me a line?
pooh

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 13:33:05 -0500
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hey, i finally got back home after a wild night at the concert!  it was
definitely electrifying.  i really think that people were keyed up for the
concert.  we all stood for all but 3 songs of it.  :)

it was a really fun show and i wonder if some of it had to do with the day
off they had on tuesday.  the only thing that kind of bothered me is the
entire section of a & e wannabes behind me that sang every word of every
song at the top of their lungs.  i understand the urge to sing along, but i
would have to say that it was a little on the extreme side.  :)

ok, now is anybody here going to the fargo show?  wanna meet up?

lisa

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 14:41:52 -0500
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subject:      re: dayton boot?  ann arbor?
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hey...this is my first post!!!

ok...this is on the aa show...
i did have probs understanding what they were saying, but i didn't think
of it as bad because up to now i had only seen them outdoors in huge
pavilions.  i just thought you're not supposed to hear well.  i couldn't
destinguish what was said in the stran of conciouness speech in scooter
boys.  but that note---i thought it was feedback...and at first on
purpose.  but i also heard it in the encore with sonja--it happened to her
too.  maybe it is the sound system.  maybe i babble.

love,
  carol
> >
>     one more question, for anyone who attended the ann arbor show:  they
> talked a little more than usual at hill, but the sound system sucked, and
> even though i was in the 6th row, i could hardly understand a word they were
> saying... especially amy -- it souded like she was eating her mic. the whole
> time.  i was just wondering if any of you had understood any of the comments
> that were being made...    by the way,  at the point in shed your skin where
> that loud bad note rang out for so long, amy walked over towards emily, and
> somehow her chord came out of her strat... she looked very p-d off about
> that... i don't know if that had anything to do with the bad noise or not,
> but i think it might've, because when my chord comes loose, my amp lets out a
> noise, too.  that's just a guess, though...( i really don't know that much
> about electric guitars -- just sort of bought one on a whim a couple years
> back. ) amy tried to play it off as if nothing was happening, even though she
> knew that everybody was hearing it, and seeing her picking up the cord to
> plug it back in.  but she shook it off quickly then, and went on... regained
> her composure much faster than i could've, but then again, she makes her
> living at this.   what she was saying to emily _after_ she plugged back in
> and em started her little solo was, "it's too loud...   it's too loud!"  i
> think em just sort of shrugged a little, like, "well yeah, but there's
> nothing we can do about it... the song's already ruined... let's just play
> through it and move on to the next song."  and it was too loud...  like i
> said, the sound absolutely sucked at hill. worst i've ever heard.    anyway,
> that's my $.02.  sorry i got so long-winded, but, hey, i hardly ever post
> anymore... gotta make up for lost bandwidth somehow :)     thanks for
> listnenin'...  if anyone knows anything about boots for dayton or aa, contact
> me, okay?
>
> peace,
> lisa
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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 14:20:13 -0600
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well, does anyone know what is was?  it was obviously pre-composed, and its
meter, etc., didn't sound like her style, so i assume someone else
originally wrote it.  i haven't seen any discussion on it, so maybe
everyone else knows, or maybe no one knows.  i'm curious as to which is
true.  i can't remember any of it, so i can't enlighten anyone who wasn't
there.

margaret

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 21:15:23 +0100
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              etheridge@esosoft.com, angelas@pi.net, leonie.versluis@pi.net,
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hallo allemaal, hello there

got a new adress here..
yvonne.hendricks@wxs.nl
nothing much.. just the extension

see ya

yvonne

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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 07:59:53 +1100
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hey folks,

lisa posted an expanded list of tour dates for australia:

>2/21, 2/22 - melbourne, vic, melbourne concert hall
>2/24 - brisbane, qld, queensland performing arts centre
>2/26, 2/27 - sydney, nsw, state theatre
>3/2 - adelaide, sa
>3/4 - perth, wa
>3/6 - canberra, act

hm.  looks like our roadtripping possibilities are severely
limited - i'll be at melbourne, sydney and canberra i
think, that's it.  i can't really justify taking any more
time off work than that, especially when i'm driving back
to melbourne just a few days after that to see dar
williams.  but anyway.

so, i know there are a whole bunch of australian lurkers
out there... if anyone wants to get together at any of the
gigs, drop me a note!  we'll work something out.

happy the girls are coming even if the concert listing
looks more like a fractal pattern than a logical sequence,
sherlyn :)
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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yeah, i was out here listening, oh yeah i was out here listening;
oh yeah i am out here listening all the time."    - dar williams

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bonjour ma petite liste,
   okay.  first.  i asked amy after a show how she possibly
didn't break a string during "scooter boys" (my entire
guitar would have fallen apart with what she was doing) and
she said "i have an excellent guitar tech".  that would be
her new tech, chad, (a.k.a. kiefer?). and then she broke a
string the next night.  oops.  nextly - big head todd and
the monsters are coming to uva on saturday night.  in the
paper it said a "talented new york songstress" is opening
for them.  i mean, of course it has to be ani.  so on the
off chance it wasn't ani, i called u union to find out who
it was, and the girl didn't know, but said it was something
like "juliet poplar, or poplan, or something".  anybody
ever heard of her?  i don't particularly want to see
bhtatm, but my best friend back home really likes them and
i want to make him jealous :) i also went to the big head
todd page to see if they had anything about their opening
acts, they didn't, but there was a show listed on 12-12 in
detroit, with the indigo girls and some other people,
called "planet radio" or something like that.  anyone know
anything about that?  not that it matters, i won't be in
the midwest then, i'll be studying my ass off for exams :(
i think that's all...sarah mclachlan's on snl this week, in
case anyone cares.  when are amy and emily going to appear
on snl? not just as musical guests, either, i want them to
co-host. one last thing...what was that song amy went into
during a song in dayton, darn it, i can't remember what
song it was (sys maybe? scooter boys?).  i figure it was
probably a neil young song, aren't they all, but i didn't
recognize it.  anyone know?
                        stephanie

stephanie lynne merhar
university of virginia
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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 16:10:58 -0500
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hi :-)

        this may seem kind of random, but does anyone have a boot from
10/29/97, patrick gym, burlington, vermont?
i was bored one day and looked through some setlists on the net and saw
this one which seemed really cool. just wondering if anyone has this boot
:-)

                                                -heather

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 16:01:08 +0000
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a friend forwarded me one of those ubiquitous lists of facts and
oddities that everyone has seen here and there.

on it was this interesting tidbit:

virginia woolfe wrote all of her books standing up.

weird, huh?

carry on, carry on.

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 16:19:39 -0500
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sorry for the nigc, but i just turned on my radio and heard the end of her
horrible version of "32 flavors."  yuk, just proves my point that people
should learn to write their own damn music.  but please ignore that last
statement 'cuz i'm really not in the mood to start that janet jackson, etc.,
argument again!

elizabeth


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~~~
"to faggots, lezzies, dykes, cross dressers too
to me
to me
to me
to you, and you and you, you and you
to people living with, living with,
living with
not dying from disease
let he among us without sin
be the first to condemn
la vie boheme."
-from _rent_

"...sometimes i hear my voice and it's been here silent all
these years."
-tori amos, "silent all these years"

"a lesson learned, a loving god, and things in their own time.
in nothing more do i trust."
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sorry that may sound bad for a title but well when someoen boycots for a
stupid reason liek this its nice to see it isnt wroking maybe disney is
the big green monster now but least they are doing this for gay issues

*** eisner - southern baptist boycott having no effect

disney chairman michael eisner said the boycott of disney by southern
baptists over gay issues has not had any financial effect on the
company. in an interview with cbs for sunday's "60 minutes," eisner
responded to charges by richard land of the southern baptist
convention's ethics and liberty commission that disney is "pushing a
christian bashing, family bashing, pro-homosexual agenda." eisner
says on the show some of the movement's leaders are "nuts." at issue
is disney world's "gay day," disney's granting of benefits to
partners of gay employees, the tv show "ellen," and films like
"pocahontas." see
http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=6044079-5d2

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i have two (possibly four) to sell for the tuesday night show.

orchestra right, row dd, seats 14 and 16 (these are next to one another)

i'm asking face value ($29) + ticketmaster charges ($4) = $66 total

also, if anyone's interested in buying four tickets together, i may be
able to do that too (the other two would be the two seats next to these:
seats 10 and 12).  so just let me know...

thanks,
lori

llevy03@emory.edu
  or
lori@cc.gatech.edu

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>  she did make a comment that she really liked budwiser
>(?) though.

oh, this is painful.  truly painful.  budweiser?  mother of god,
help us!  the always (i thought) tasteful emily drinks budweiser.
i'm sorry - i have to run quick to the ladies room and ralph.
nic (still muttering to herself, "budweiser, i don't believe it,
     of all the schmucky beers...i just can not believe it...")

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okay y'all-

i've all but given up on contacting liz turcotte.  sooooo, since i *really*
want the great woods boot and cause i owe it to don r., could someone who
has a *good* (preferably 1st generation radio) copy of the great woods
audio pleas contact me?  i have a lot to trade and would be willing to set
you up with something that you could use.

thanks a lot!
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at 04:19 pm 11/20/97 -0500, elizabeth skipper wrote:
>sorry for the nigc, but i just turned on my radio and heard the end of her
>horrible version of "32 flavors."  yuk, just proves my point that people
>should learn to write their own damn music.

i agree!!  to quote billy joel:

"it seems like the way it is in record companies today is 'well you can't
sing, you can't write, you can't play...you're our guy!!!'"

i thought it was nail on the head!!

take care
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hi all brisbanites, or anyone intended to do a roadtrip up here ;)

> * 24 feb 1998, queensland performing arts centre, brisbane qld
>         tix onsale 24/11/97 (next mon) (ticketmaster i think
>         but don't quote me on that)

phone number for getting tickets for the brisbane show is (07) 3846 4646.
it's the qpac dial 'n charge number.

sherlyn, let me know if you want a ticket... from the sound of your other
emails you won't be making it up here :((((  let me know if you change
your mind though :)

can't wait till feb!!
shelley

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> and films like
>"pocahontas."


huh?  pocahontas advocates gay rights?


alisa


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there are two i don't understand."
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on thu, 20 nov 1997 poprckgrrl@aol.com wrote:

> what is it with people talking during the opening acts?
>
> it happens all the time...people need to just shuddup...i know i'm not the
> only one who feels this way
yeah, i was vaguely pissed at the way everyone talked, loudly, through
sonia's set at hill (ann arbor).  i would've been so hurt if it had been
me on stage.  maybe it was just the balcony that was so rude, but from
where i was sitting, i could see the floor too, and they were all milling
around and jabbering with each other too.  there needs to be some sort of
opener etiquette.
jill

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i'd have to agree with jill on the need for "opening act etiquette."
at the dayton show on saturday night i took note of all of the crapping
around while danielle was on stage.  man, it was rude!  secondly, i
noticed that several chose danielle's set as "i gotta go get my beer
time." come on folkies! get with it! :)

-bethany

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hey y'all-
i got this off the ani list, thought you might want to see it.
jill
---------- forwarded message ----------
date: thu, 20 nov 1997 14:54:19 -0500 (est)
from: rbrinfo@aol.com
to: nadc@garden.net
subject: an open letter from ani to ms. mag

greetings, gardeners of secrecy:
the li'l folksinger has asked me to distribute the text of this open letter
to the editor of ms, in response to a short paragraph in their sept./oct. 97
issue. it's a tad long for e-mail, but ani wanted folks to be able to read
the entirety of her message instead of an edited version. **you may
distribute or forward the following as long as you do not alter or edit it.**

-ron e.
rbr minister of communications
____________

november 5, 1997

marcia ann gillespie
editor in chief
ms. magazine
135 w. 50th street
16th floor
new york, ny 10020

     so i'm poring through the 25th anniversary issue of ms. (on some
airplane going
somewhere in the amorphous blur that amounts to my life) and i'm finding it
endlessly enlightening and stimulating as always, when, whaddaya know, i come
across a little picture of little me. i was flattered to be included in that
issue's "21 feminists for the 21st century" thingybob. i think ya'll are
runnin the most bold and babe-olishious magazine around, after all.

     problem is, i couldn't help but be a little weirded out by the paragraph
next to my head that summed up her me-ness and my relationship to the
feminist continuum. what got me was that it largely detailed my financial
successes and sales statistics. my achievements were represented by the fact
that i "make more money per album sold than hootie and the blowfish," and
that my catalogue sales exceed 3/4 of a million. it was specified that i
don't just have my own record company but my own "profitable" record company.
still, the ironic conclusion of the aforementioned blurb is a quote from me
insisting "it's not about the money." why then, i ask myself, must "the
money" be the focus of so much of the media that surrounds me? why can't i
escape it, even in the hallowed pages of ms.?

     firstly, this "hootie and the blowfish" business was not my doing. the
la times financial section wrote an article about my record label, righteous
babe records, in which they raved about the business savvy of a singer (me)
who thwarted the corporate overhead by choosing to remain independent,
thereby pocketing $4.25 per unit, as opposed to the $1.25 made by hootie or
the $2.00 made by michael jackson. this story was then picked up and
reprinted by the new york times, forbes magazine, the financial news network,
and (lo and behold) ms.

     so here i am, publicly morphing into some kinda fortune
500-young-entrepreneur-from-hell, and all along i thought i was just a
folksinger !

     ok, it's true. i do make a much larger profit (percentage-wise) than the
hootster. what's even more astounding is that there are thousands of
musicians out there who make an even higher profit percentage than me! how
many local, musicians are there in your community who play gigs in bars and
coffee shops about town? i bet lots of them have made cassettes or cds which
they'll happily sell to you with a personal smile from the edge of the stage
or back at the bar after their set. would you believe these shrewd,
profit-minded wheeler-dealers are pocketing a whopping _100%_ of the profits
on the sales of those puppies?! wait  till the financial news network gets a
whiff of _them_!

     i sell approximately 2.5% of the albums that a joan jewelanis morrisette
sells and get about .05% of the airplay royalties, so obviously if it all
comes down to dollars and cents, i've led a wholly unremarkable life. yet i
choose relative statistical mediocrity over fame and fortune because i have a
bigger purpose in mind. imagine how strange it must be for a girl who has
spent 10 years fighting as hard as she could against the lure of the
corporate carrot and the almighty forces of capital, only to be eventually
recognized by the power structure as a business pioneer.

     i have indeed sold enough records to open a small office on the
half-abandoned main street in the dilapidated urban center of my hometown,
buffalo, n.y. i am able to hire 15 or so folks to run and constantly reinvent
the place while i drive around and play music for people. i am able to give
stimulating business to local printers and manufacturers and to employ the
services of independent distributors, promoters, booking agents and
publicists. i was able to quit my day job and devote myself to what i love.
and yes, we are enjoying modest profits these days, affording us the
opportunity to reinvest in innumerable political and artistic endeavors.  rbr
is no warner bros. but it is a going concern, and for me, it is a vehicle for
redefining the relationship between art and commerce in my own life.  it is a
record company which is the product not just of my own imagination, but that
of my friend and manager scot fisher and of all the people who work there.
people who incorporate and coordinate politics, art and media every day into
a people-friendly, sub-corporate, woman-informed, queer-happy small business
that puts music before rock stardom and ideology before profit.

     and me.  i'm just a folksinger, not an entrepreneur.  my hope is that my
music and poetry will be enjoyable and/or meaningful to someone, somewhere,
not that i maximize my profit margins.  it was 15 years and 11 albums getting
to this place of notoriety and, if anything, i think i was happier way back
when.  not that i regret any of my decisions, mind you.  i'm glad i didn't
sign on to the corporate army.  i mourn the commodification and
homogenization of music by the music industry, and i fear the manufacture of
consent by the corporately-controlled media.  last thing i want to do is feed
the machine.

     i was recently mortified while waiting in the dressing room before one
of my own shows. some putz suddenly takes the stage to announce me and
exclaim excitedly that this was my "largest sold-out crowd to date!"  "oh,
really?," i'm thinking to myself, "that's interesting...too bad it's not the
point."  all of my achievements are artistic, as are all of my failures.
that's just the way i see it.  statistical plateau or no.  i'll bust ass for
60 people, or 6,000, watch me.

     i have so much respect for ms. magazine.  if i couldn't pick it up at
newsstands my brain probably would've atrophied by now on some trans-atlantic
flight and i would be lying limp and twitchy in a bed of constant travel,
staring blankly into the abyss of the gossip magazines.  ms. is a structure
of media wherein women are able to define themselves, and articulate for
themselves those definitions.  we wouldn't point to 21 of the feminists
moving into the 21st century and define them in terms of  "here's becky
ballbuster from iowa city, she's got a great ass and a cute little button
nose..."  no ma'am.  we've gone beyond the limited perceptions of sexism and
so we should move beyond the language and perspective of the corporate
patriarchy.  the financial news network may be ultimately impressed with me
now that i've proven to them that there's a
life beyond the auspices of papa sony, but do i really have to prove this to
_you_?

     we have the ability and the opportunity to recognize women not just for
the financial successes of their work but for the work itself.  we have the
facility to judge each other by entirely different criteria than those is
imposed upon us by the superstructure of society.  we have a view which
reaches beyond profit margins into poetry, and a vocabulary to articulate the
difference.

     thanks for including me, ms., really.  but just promise me one thing;
if i drop dead
tomorrow, tell me my grave stone won't read:

          ani d.
          ceo.

please let it read:

          songwriter
          musicmaker
          storyteller
          freak.


-ani difranco

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subject:      stick to the faq!!!

i don't mean to interrupt, but let's keep our little noses out of their
personal life and have a little respect for amy and emily (referring to the
pot situation).  why don't we stick to the faq and leave their lives alone.
i do look up to amy and emily a lot.  i wish people out there making up
these assumptions and rumors about pot and everything else you throw in there
would knock it off (not mentioning names).  you are the people we hate
because it makes all of us fans look like disrespectful *ss #oles.  don't
ruin it for everyone else.  let's just leave their personal lives out, ok.
thank you.

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on 1200 curfews, who's the lead singing person in "midnight train to ga?" i
hear emily and amy in the background

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i agree. major annoyance. when i went to lillith fair in pittsburgh, there
was this group of...slightly intoxicated people in front of us. they
talked the entire show. apparently, they had come just to see jewel, and
didn't care about anyone else. i finally flipped out when sarah mclachlan
was singing "good enough" and they still hadyet to shut up. for god's
sake...everyone needs to remember that just because you don't want to see
something, there are people that do want to see them. so shut up and be
polite!!! (not that any of you guys would talk during opening acts, of
course...)
anyway...that's my tirade for the night, thanks...

meghan

*if you needed somebody...*

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subject:      re: opener etiquette! -danielle howle
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bethany,


i have to say that i was one of the ones that got up during danielle's set. i was so bowled over by her i went to the hallway to purchase her cd because i was afraid i would miss out if i waited. then back to my 3rd row seats i went, held the cd in front of my face so she would know that i wasn't just being rude, and then do you remember her comment "oh you bought my cd...cool" that was to me. then after her set she threw me both of her set lists, one of which i gave to deidre (don richards granddaughter) and then we both hightailed it up to meet danielle... (darling woman that she is) and get them autographed by this dynamo!


so here is one fan that really got into danielle at the dayton show and plans to buy more of her music due to it.


at 05:44 pm 11/20/97 -0400, chloe wrote:

>i'd have to agree with jill on the need for "opening act etiquette."

>at the dayton show on saturday night i took note of all of the crapping

>around while danielle was on stage.  man, it was rude!  secondly, i

>noticed that several chose danielle's set as "i gotta go get my beer

>time." come on folkies! get with it! :)

>

>-bethany

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i had the misfortune to sit surronded by a group a group of high school
kiddos ( they said so repeatedly) who were very interested in discussing
what" jimmy had done to karen last friday and how they just couldn't
believe she still would go out withhim"
i, very politely asked the lasses " excuse me dear, but i'd like to hear
the show"..they were very apologetic to this old timer (not!!) for
..oh..bout 2 seconds..when the discussion then turned to cleos new guy...
again i was most polite and asked if perhaps they might go to the lobby
to finish their discussion as i had paid to hear the people on stage
talk, not them..really truly i was polite......honest
i think they took my rath seriously cause they all skedaddled off to the
lobby..
on come the girls( igcontent) and i was psyched because i had just
attended the fabuloso chicago ig list meet (nigc)...where i met greggy
who told me that he was married to sherylin( igc...???).. anyway i
digress...
the girlys proceeded to sing thru every tune..ok..so thats ok i
guess..but they decided to talk during love will come to you ( big
mistake  to commit around this emily fan!!),,i figured i had tried the
nice route 3 times (i didn't tell ya bout the third..didn't want to be
redundant)so now it was time to be very very succent..i polite turned
around..tapped the ringleader on the shoulder and in an ever so sweet
voice  said,shut the fuck up, ok??????? and loe and behold,,the kids
didn't say another word the entire night (tho i did notice some
"whatevers" and a few rolled eyes)
what all this rambling means is..try the nice approach but kids,if it
doesn't work....
go for plan b.
pooh..the marshmellow

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it is rude to talk throughout the opening act.  last night, i saw dar and
tara mclean opened for her.  i was impressed, the audience was silent!  i
was actually able to enjoy tara's music.

however, i'd rather have those restless people get up and get beer than
sit and talk.  hey, it's them who are missing out, and at least they are
not spoiling it for me.

one last note. i don't know how you all felt (and please don't flame me,
this is my opinion), but i didn't like danielle howle as much as i liked
some other ig opening acts (like ulali, sp?).  i don't know.  it wasn't
that i disliked her, i just didn't like her as much.

:-) karen

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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 09:36:13 +1000
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g'day y'all,

just checked the entertainment guide in today's age newspaper and tickets
for melbourne *definitely* go on sale tuesday and booking is through
ticketmaster. no mention of a second concert in the advert. tickets *are
not* on sale directly from the concert hall, i believe.  my past
epxperience is that second concert tickets can be released *on the day* tix
go on sale, so keep contact with ticketmaster during the day to check.

anyways, on the phone to a friend in newcastle, new south wales last night,
passing on the news: the penny dropped and she said that the girls have
probably tied in their tour dates to coincide with the world-famous *sydney
mardi gras* , which apparently is this year celebrating it's 20th
anniversary, starting 28 february 1998 and promises to be the biggest and
best yet!!  so.......ig's a mardi gras, eh?  sounds possible to me. could
be a chance for them to kick back and just enjoy themselves like regular
folks.

still excited 24 hours after the news.....

lisa-lou

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according to the 1200 curfews booklet, amy dosn't sing (she even comments
"like a fish out of water").  amy plays electric guitar.  emily sings and
plays acoustic.  jerry marotta plays his drums and sings.  sara plays her
bass.  jane scarpantoni plays cello.  gail ann dorsey is the other leading
singer (they only do this when she's there).  and jimmy descant--he's
another backer--he's the groups king of soul--and her dances too.

this is all according to the booklet
carol

on thu, 20 nov 1997, robert arkin wrote:

> on 1200 curfews, who's the lead singing person in "midnight train to ga?" i
> hear emily and amy in the background
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hi,

now, i know what sherlyn said about nigc (hi sherlyn) but i just had to
share this with you guys.  today i quit my job (...i spent 6 years
*prostrate* to the abtex man, got my visa now i'm free-ee...) and in january
i'm moving to the us.  i'll be in atlanta for a wee while and then off to
boston for my first job (hi to all the baigls out there...).

yeah.

seeya,

gail :)

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did amy or emily write this? or neither?
i've checked out lifeblood and it doesn't say.

thanks,
sandy
:)

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ok, so i ran across this today (in the alt.tv.x-files newsgroup.
interesting and scary all at once. what have y'all been up to?

betsy

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subject:      re: scully's sexualtity
from:         "mr. cool" <luciano@roman.net>
date:         1997/11/15
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<19971115202601.paa04674@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>
>
>in an upcoming episode scully will be somewhat involved with a lesbian
played by amy ray of the indigo girls.
>

can i just ask where you heard this?  if it isn't true, this is a cruel
joke.  i think the world as i know it would somehow turn on itself and
collapse if my two favorite things - txf and the indigo girls were to
somehow cross paths.  please e-mail me and tell me where you heard this
rumor!  thanks!

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oh my, i just saw the post about the indigos west coast tour.  my stomach
feels all icky and romantic thoughts are circling me like like a tornado.  i
think i'm going to cry. :)

i am so happy that they decided to play in california again (hi, i'm skipping
a week of class and seeing all six california shows).  i need to get myself
a job to fund this next concert adventure. :)

with indigo stained glass smiles,
xochitl :)


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true- it is better for the "talkers" to be up getting beer - but it
makes life kinda difficult for those of us in the floor seats behind
them.  the drunk people are really startin' to piss me off!

-b

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wow rumors really spread like wildfire on the net...this is proof!


at 04:56 pm 11/20/97 -0800, bbertiaux@earthlink.net wrote:

>ok, so i ran across this today (in the alt.tv.x-files newsgroup.

>interesting and scary all at once. what have y'all been up to?

>

>betsy

>

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>subject:      re: scully's sexualtity

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>>

>>in an upcoming episode scully will be somewhat involved with a lesbian

>played by amy ray of the indigo girls.

>>

>

>can i just ask where you heard this?  if it isn't true, this is a cruel

>joke.  i think the world as i know it would somehow turn on itself and

>collapse if my two favorite things - txf and the indigo girls were to

>somehow cross paths.  please e-mail me and tell me where you heard this

>rumor!  thanks!

>

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:) hi everyone!

does sara lee sing backup vocals on any song other than bury my heart at
wounded knee?  and if not, then does anyone know why?

- rick

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sorry if someone already posted this or if this is a rerun or something
(but i don't think it is).  anyway, i just saw on nbc that sarah will
be the musical guest on saturday night live this saturday night.

just thought i'd pass it along,

leigh ann

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subject:      boston tix & boston v. chicago treaty proposal!

hey there everyone!

i was wondering if there is anyone out there who has two extra tickets to the
ig show in boston and feels extra kind?  this roadtripper would like to
re-enact her trip to dayton and hopefully serve as a mediator to the current
boston v. chicago situation!  the tix will obviously be going to a good
cause!  :-)

thanx y'all

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subject:      rogue market

okay, y'all,

this is embarassing.  since the indigo girls debuted on the rogue market at
$10 a share, their stock has risen only a lousy $2.13!!!!  so now is the
time!  if you are not currently a player, go to:

http://www.roguemarket.com

and sign up.  it costs you nothing to play and it is fun!!!  besides, it just
sticks in my craw that the spice girls stock sells for well over $1000 per
share.  i know life is not a popularity contest, but the rogue market is one
place where our "vote" for ig will be heard.  okay, this is all supreme
silliness, but check it out. i'm sure you all need one more way to waste time
on the net!!  :-)

peace,

pam

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today we got our spring concert wish lists.  union board lists about 10-
bands and we get to rank them in rder of prefrence.  to my absolute
delight, the goddesses were listed!  now i actually have something to do
on this campus!  i am telling everyone i know "put the indigo girls as
your first choice" and many people are listening to me!!!!  ohmygosh!  i
would die if they came to this school!!!!!!!!!
:-) karen
ps- only a little over a week till...columbus!  will there be a list meet
or anything?

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hey all,
well, i managed to miss the original airing of the lilith fair thing on
vh1, but i did catch the two repeats.  which means, i have one extra copy.
i'd like to trade it if for some older video stuff or the disney special.
however, since i only have one i'll give it to the first person to
respond (whether you want to trade or just do the postage thing.)
java

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hi, i still have two tickets to the next wednesday show in atlanta --
row o on the floor, seats 22 and 24. anyone interested, let me know.
they were $69 including ticketmaster charges.

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> from: pooh <pooh40@mc.net>
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> subject: opening act  rude crowds and how to deal with them
> date: friday, november 21, 1997 2:21 am
>
>...
> the girlys proceeded to sing thru every tune..ok..so thats ok i
> guess..but they decided to talk during love will come to you ( big
> mistake  to commit around this emily fan!!),,i figured i had tried the
> nice route 3 times (i didn't tell ya bout the third..didn't want to be
> redundant)so now it was time to be very very succent..i polite turned
> around..tapped the ringleader on the shoulder and in an ever so sweet
> voice  said,shut the fuck up, ok??????? and loe and behold,,the kids
> didn't say another word the entire night (tho i did notice some
> "whatevers" and a few rolled eyes)
> what all this rambling means is..try the nice approach but kids,if it
> doesn't work....
> go for plan b.
> pooh..the marshmellow
>

hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mom....

you are my hero.....

have i told you that lately??

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 20:38:11 -0800
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sorry, but the vh1 lilith fair tape offer is closed.
java

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i have only been a listee for @ a week so i probably shouldn't be posting
this, but....


i've gotta say this was the best thing i've read on the list so far!!!!!!!


except the warm welcome of bonnie!!!

michelle

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 22:40:43 -0500
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sandy ng asked:

>did amy or emily write this? or neither?
>i've checked out lifeblood and it doesn't say.

nope.  a lil ol' band called loggins and messina.  (kenny loggins presolo
stuff.)
lisa


"the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less
seriously, it's only life afterall." --emily saliers

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hi all!
i guess it's time to start planning.  i was thinking meeting at a restaurant
near the venue @ 6ish.  sound good?  what time are you heading into town
don? you folks (twink?) who are local think, ummm, barley's on high st.?
lost planet pizza in the short north? both these places are 2 minutes from
the show.  any other ideas?  let's get planning, 'cause i'm outta town for
thanksgiving. email me folks! we should be efficient and start a nickname file.
peace, love, and indigohio
lisa


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seriously, it's only life afterall." --emily saliers

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i know i am behind, but....

talk about someone looking like emily.

fergie looks so much like emily does on the cover of sf.

look!!!  :)

peace-
karrie

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in a message dated 97-11-20 11:52:25 est, tanner9903@aol.com writes:

<< maybe next time you will figure that perhaps, just perhaps she
had been crying one of their parents is very ill and please don't say that
you think she was stoned.. >>

with apologies to everyone for a public response to this post - i feel that
it's necessary.  if you feel it necessary to flame me, please do it privately
so that this discussion ends now.
umm, melissa - when you talk about their family situation - whih i really
dont think you have any way beyond hearsay to know about - that's called
invading their privacy.  we don't do that here, and you know it.  personally,
i wouldn't be telling over 1,000 people that someone's dad or mom is sick
without knowing it as a hard fact, which i doubt that you do.

peace, harmony, and indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  ~novitiate of suzanneglassism
   ~president, grlchasr26 fan club
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everybody loves a melodrama and the scandal of a lie.
still you held your arms open for the prodigal daughter.
i see my eyes in your eyes through my eyes,
still water."
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in a message dated 97-11-20 23:05:14 est, heather writes:

<< at 04:56 pm 11/20/97 -0800, bbertiaux@earthlink.net wrote:
>ok, so i ran across this today (in the alt.tv.x-files newsgroup.
>interesting and scary all at once. what have y'all been up to?
------snip------  >>

now, y'all see where rumors get you????  i seem to remember a very stupid,
fuzzy, bouncy type of orange-and-black-striped animal pulling one of these in
regards to a certain goddess and coolio............ so i'm not faulting
anyone for anything, and this is not a flame and yes it is funny but we
should remember that too many people have extremely literal ways of thinking
and don't catch on to jokes and sarcasm.

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
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out on pooh's shadow when it wasn't looking, said that
tiggers were only bouncy before breakfast, and that as soon
as they had had a few haycorns they became quiet and refined.
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gail sez:

<< now, i know what sherlyn said about nigc (hi sherlyn) but i just had to
share this with you guys.  today i quit my job (...i spent 6 years
*prostrate* to the abtex man, got my visa now i'm free-ee...) >>

congratulations, gail!!!!

:-) i am currently working my last week at the evil toys r us after five
years!!

who was it that said it feels so funny to be free?

;-)
rick
apologizes for the nigc as well. ;)

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nope kenny loggins did

on thu, 20 nov 1997, sandy ng wrote:

> did amy or emily write this? or neither?
> i've checked out lifeblood and it doesn't say.
>
> thanks,
> sandy

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date:         thu, 20 nov 1997 23:34:55 -0600
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i am looking for some dissapear fear. anyone want to trade for some indigo
girls, melissa, kd lang, or lesbian comedy? will trade my list for yours.
thanks. e-mail me privately.

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i am looking for a copy of the ig disney special. anyone who can help me
please e-mail me privately, thanks.

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um what was it ? theres been alot of stuff with that title was it what i
posted abotu what we owe them? sicne i havent really seen any comments on
that just folks spinning off that idea

on thu, 20 nov 1997, michelle hagan wrote:

> i have only been a listee for @ a week so i probably shouldn't be posting
> this, but....
>
>
> i've gotta say this was the best thing i've read on the list so far!!!!!!!
>
>
> except the warm welcome of bonnie!!!
>
> michelle
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subject:      thermal shirt?

i know this question was posted many times, but i'm not sure if i saw an
answer.  does anyone know what the fish and snowflake represent?  i am sorry
if i am a little behind on the questions. my apologies....  thanks.  = )

~alison

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it's an old loggins and messina song. (kenny loggins. jim messina)

sari
>date:    thu, 20 nov 1997 19:29:30 -0500
>from:    sandy ng <dp823@freenet.carleton.ca>
>subject: house at pooh corner
>
>did amy or emily write this? or neither?
>i've checked out lifeblood and it doesn't say.
>
>thanks,
>sandy
>:)


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got this in the mail...have fun.
jill
>
>> a true story. a thermodynamics professor had written a take home exam
>> for his graduate students. it had one question: "is hell exothermic or
>> endothermic? support your answer with a proof."  most of the students
>> wrote proofs of their beliefs using boyle's law or some variant. one
>> student, however wrote the following:
>>
>> first, we postulate that if souls exist, then they must have some
>> mass. if they do, then a mole of souls can also have a mass.  so, at
>> what rate are souls moving into hell and at what rate are
>> souls leaving?  i think that we can safely assume that once a soul
>> gets to hell, it will not leave. therefore, no souls are leaving.  as
>> for souls entering hell, lets look at the different religions that
>> exist in the world today. some of these religions state that if you
>> are not a member of their religion, you will go to hell. since there
>> are more than one of these religions and people do not belong to more
>> than one religion, we can project that all people and all souls go to
>> hell.
>>
>> with birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of
>> souls in hell to increase exponentially.  now, we look at the rate of
>> change in volume in hell. boyle's law states that in order for the
>> temperature and pressure in hell to stay the same, the ratio of the
>> mass of souls and volume needs to stay constant.
>>
>> #1: so, if hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which
>> souls enter hell, then the temperature and pressure in hell will
>> increase until all hell breaks loose, meaning that hell is
>> exothermic.
>>
>> #2: of course, if hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase
>> of souls in hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until
>> hell freezes over, meaning that hell is endothermic.
>>
>> so which is it? if we accept the postulate given me by theresa banyan
>> during freshman year "that it will be a cold night in hell before i
>> sleep with you," and take into account the fact that i still have not
>> succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then #2 cannot be true.
>>
>> therefore, hell is exothermic.
>>
>> this student got the the only a.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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yeah, i'm whining again.  big news, i know.  lisa t's email got me
thinking...  those of us stuck in the middle of cornfields and cows (i'm
talking ohio, michigan, indiana, pennsylvania, etc.) need our own group to
add more players to the locality wars them baigls and chicagoans are
havin.  i really like that indigohio that lisa came up with.  any other
suggestions?  of course, all bordering states would be allowed to join
too, yeah.  whatt'ya think?  it's time those of us stuck in cow town spoke
up and proved our love of all things indigo.  altho' i'm a baigl of sorts
(perhaps a caigl--cleveland area...), i'm feeling alienated <sniffle> and
alone <sob>... wow, this is starting to feel like high school, and the
baigls are the big popular crowd-- the cheerleaders, the football team,
the student council.  yikes!  folks, we've got to stop this madness before
they all *take over*!  join forces now, become members of indigohio!
hee hee, i'm so subversive.
jill

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the list that i am on is the "unofficial" ani list, since it's not one of
the rbr lists, which are pretty sucky.  this one is jokingly called the
"no ani difranco content" list.  the addy is:
nadc@garden.net
(for those of you who asked, and those who care)
jill

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subject:      mpls/northrup

hey, sorry to bug you all, but could someone re-post the official mpls. setlist?
my brother just wrote me his review of the concert and he said emily played
winthrop which i don't remember seeing on anyone's posted songlist from the
night (cause i would have been really depressed that i missed it).  so if you
have a copy of that could you send it to me or the list.  short and sweet.
thanks...

marivel

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"does that sound a little muddy to you?"

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subject:      barbie dolls?

i vote for baklava- amy said it smelled plastic. it was some sort of  baked
goods, in a cookie tin with waxed paper- and i thought it was hilarious that
amy picked it up and smelled it, then said, "it does smell like barbie dolls,
like plastic." i mean can you picture little amy at 10 years old with a
barbie doll? smelling them!!?? such a big family- lots of siblings- but i
thought most of them were brothers.......

my favorite part was sarah saying talking about how the atmosphere of the
lilith tour in the beginning was tense, the press accused them of diva
attitudes, paula cole said they were all just shy, introspective artists.
until! the indigo girls got there! sarah said as soon as emily and amy
arrived- bingo- it was all totally different! a&e just went around knocking
on everyone's doors saying, "okay, we're here, let's mix it up!" sarah said
"you could just feel the energy that they brought in with them!" yeah! we
know 'bout that don't we?

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subject:      tigger's site

for all you who wanted tigger's site- here it is-
http://members.aol.com/ndygotiggr/index2.html

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subject:      x-files

okay, does everyone in the list know this already but me?--- those of us
close enough to the stage can plainly tell (after deciphering the black and
white sticker on amy's black electric 6 string says "rock for choice") that
her amp- or is it jerry's, behind her, has two pictures on it- one in each
corner- of the stars of x-files. now, we know she's said she's a huge
trekker, but i didn't realize her (apparent) passion for the newest t.v.
sci-fi craze. is this like old news?????

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karrie a. bowen wrote:
>
> i know i am behind, but....
>
> talk about someone looking like emily.
>
> fergie looks so much like emily does on the cover of sf.
>
> look!!!  :)
>
> peace-
> karrie
>
> --
>
'scuse me for being dumb, but what is sf???

hugs, karen

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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 07:31:28 -0500
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love1318@aol.com wrote:
>
> i know this question was posted many times, but i'm not sure if i saw an
> answer.  does anyone know what the fish and snowflake represent?  i am sorry
> if i am a little behind on the questions. my apologies....  thanks.  = )
>
> ~alison
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i sure don't know, thought it might have something to do with it being a
winter tour, and the fish usually represents god, just a guess...

love, karen
ps, the shirt is awesome, comfortable, warm and indigo : )

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jill certo wrote:
>
> yeah, i'm whining again.  big news, i know.  lisa t's email got me
> thinking...  those of us stuck in the middle of cornfields and cows (i'm
> talking ohio, michigan, indiana, pennsylvania, etc.) need our own group to
> add more players to the locality wars them baigls and chicagoans are
> havin.  i really like that indigohio that lisa came up with.  any other
> suggestions?  of course, all bordering states would be allowed to join
> too, yeah.  whatt'ya think?  it's time those of us stuck in cow town spoke
> up and proved our love of all things indigo.  altho' i'm a baigl of sorts
> (perhaps a caigl--cleveland area...), i'm feeling alienated <sniffle> and
> alone <sob>... wow, this is starting to feel like high school, and the
> baigls are the big popular crowd-- the cheerleaders, the football team,
> the student council.  yikes!  folks, we've got to stop this madness before
> they all *take over*!  join forces now, become members of indigohio!
> hee hee, i'm so subversive.
> jill
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what is a baigl?

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hi!

i have an extra ticket for the second show in atlanta and also one for the
show in orlando.............. if you are interested, please email me asap,
and we can work out the details.

wednesday, november 26th
fox theatre, atlanta, ga
orchestra, row g, seat 57
(translates to 7th row amy side)
price is $33.00 (including all tm charges)


saturday, november 29th
orange county convention center, orlando, fl
orchestra, row e, seat 1
(translates to 5th row emily side)
price is $32.00 (including all tm charges)

please email me at:  memememi@aol.com and i'll get back to you asap.

thanks!
=)
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if the ohio, pennsylvania etc...people get together to form a more perfect
union...what about those of us in va, md, dc, nc?

how many of us are there?

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subject:      nobody does it like sara lee

in case any of ya'll forgot...i love sara lee!!!!

there i feel much better now...

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>the list that i am on is the "unofficial" ani list, since it's not one of
>the rbr lists, which are pretty sucky.  this one is jokingly called the
>"no ani difranco content" list.  the addy is:
>nadc@garden.net

please don't write to the list address to subscribe... go here for list info
and a subscription dialog box:
<http://www.garden.net:81/guest/remotelistsummary/nadc>.  if you only want
ani news and not off-topic discussion, i recommend the "what if no one's
watching" newsletter
<http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/1915/winw.html> or the rbr-news list
(send e-mail to rbr-news-request@righteous-babe-records.com with 'subscribe'
in the body for digest, 'subsingle' for bounce format).

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chloe <"rhcp@alpha.wcoil.com"@wcoil.com> wrote:
>i'd have to agree with jill on the need for "opening act etiquette."
>at the dayton show on saturday night i took note of all of the crapping
>around while danielle was on stage.  man, it was rude!  secondly, i
>noticed that several chose danielle's set as "i gotta go get my beer
>time." come on folkies! get with it! :)

i'd rather have uninterested people leave than stay in their seats and talk
over the performer so no one else can enjoy it.  that's the part i don't
get... if you aren't really interested in a performance, why not go to the
least intrusive place to have your conversations (lawn, lobby, back of the
floor, whatever)?!

=-=-=-=

pooh <pooh40@mc.net> wrote, regarding shutting up talkers:
>what all this rambling means is..try the nice approach but kids,if it
>doesn't work.... go for plan b.

neither plan a nor b is an option if you're wearing a mic!

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nicola nelson <nicnelson@hotmail.com> wrote:
>oh, this is painful.  truly painful.  budweiser?  mother of god,
>help us!  the always (i thought) tasteful emily drinks budweiser.

sad, isn't it? i may have to sign her up for my microbrew-of-the-month club
for xmas. :-)

=-=-=-=

i just wanted to note, for those ordering the "thermal" shirt by mail
order, that it's not really thermal... it's got that look, but it's really
thin, sort of a waffle-weave t-shirt.  kind of cool, but pretty
expensive at $35.

=-=-=-=

stephanie merhar <slm4b@server1.mail.virginia.edu> wrote:
>what was that song amy went into
>during a song in dayton, darn it, i can't remember what
>song it was (sys maybe? scooter boys?).  i figure it was
>probably a neil young song, aren't they all, but i didn't
>recognize it.  anyone know?

don't know about dayton, but berkeley fans were treated to fleetwood mac's
"silver springs" in the middle of "chickenman" (i think) their first night
there, and barry manilow's "i write the songs" the next. :-)

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i agree with jill's idea--let's give those damn baigles a run for their
money! i just wanted to clarify, though, that indigohio is don richards'
trademark phrase. i borrowed (read stole) it 'cause it was soooo good. i
think it would be a fab group name.  ya' haven't trademarked it yet, have
ya' don?
lisa

jill certo said:

>those of us stuck in the middle of cornfields and cows (i'm
>talking ohio, michigan, indiana, pennsylvania, etc.) need our own group to
> i really like that indigohio that lisa came up with.

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on fri, 21 nov 1997, karen l. frey wrote:

> karrie a. bowen wrote:
> >
> > fergie looks so much like emily does on the cover of sf.
> >
> > look!!!  :)
> >
> > peace-
> > karrie
> >
> > --
> >
> 'scuse me for being dumb, but what is sf???
>
> hugs, karen
>


karen:

sf means strange fire.

peace-
karrie

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>nope.  a lil ol' band called loggins and messina.  (kenny loggins
presolo
>stuff.)

yeah.  that kinda reminds me of that line about how the beatles was
a band paul mccartney was in before wings.
if you've never heard loggins and messina's "sittin'in" cd, check it
out.  beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.  this is the kind of stuff
i was listening to back in high school (when it came out).  i still
consider it one of the finest cd's ever in the folk-rock genre.
peace-nic
p.s. thanks to all you kind souls who've written to comiserate with
me over my data losses.

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so..whats the deal with this emily tune on "studio outtakes"..did e
write it? and when?
it certainly is very revealing....anyone know??

and once again, my yearly plea...anyone know anything about the
emily solo tape????
hey you atlantians..anything???
pooh

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hey y'all...

i stopped being a regular rosie watcher (no time to even watch the tape)
but i was reading something interesting in the paper yesterday...she always
said there were certain people who were big influences for her and who she
always wanted to meet in her life...her dream.  they were lucy (but she
passed away), mary tyler moore, bette midler, and barbra streisand.  well,
she had mary and bette on her show, which only left one....for a year and a
half she's been trying to get barbra on her show and she's done it! barbra
streisand will appear on the rosie o'donnell show today...i'm taping it, as
it should be a keeper!  big big ratings are expected...even bigger than
when she had her "tommy boy" on....

anyway, that's it....hope y'all have a good day!

joni  :o)

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well since the girls are from the south...we need a group too!  come on
tennessee, georgia, kentucky, etc.!  let's show these folks how southern
hospitality works!  thanks y'all!

joy b

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at 8:33 am -0400 11/21/97, karen l. frey wrote:

>what is a baigl?

boston area indigo girls listee.....

btw, with all this talk of the girls having dates down under, isn't it
about time for them to announce their next boston show?  maybe they can pop
on back when all the holiday hustle and bustle is over with... i think i
have some dates in january open.....;o)  ;o)  ;o)

"don't flame me because i'm from boston......"


joni  :o)

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hi all,

wondering if some australia friends could suggest some women-friendly
places to go. my friend will be travelling to sydney, brisbane, and
melbourne throughout the month of february.

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sharon

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who else aside from the b-52s has sara lee played for.....i was so surprised
when i saw her on pop-up video while home sick (yeah right) earlier this week.

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>
>did amy or emily write this? or neither?
>i've checked out lifeblood and it doesn't say.
>
>thanks,
>sandy
>:)
>
>house at pooh corner was originally by loggins & messina. i believe it was
>written by kenny loggins. l & m did some really great songs. including "your
>momma don't dance (and your daddy don't rock n roll).
>
>peace,
>
>dan
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this is a public thank you to mel from atlanta( or there abouts)
i know she's in minn,,( gettin to know someone better..heh heh heh so
thats what ya call it huh?) so i can't write her privately but i know
shes' got access to the list.
miz mel..went to the atlanta book signing and totally with out my
knowledge got me an autographed copy of daughters of the moon, sisters
of the sun..
what a suprise...
mel..you rawk kiddo..
thank you so much..
so be jealous one and all..i got me amys sig,,just to me...
whoo hoo!!!!

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i just wanted to throw in another plug for kris.  she lives and plays in
austin.  i have seen her many times.  she toured with
amy & emily on their  practice tour before their cd was released.  she has
a beautiful voice and is a lot of fun to see live.
she is very funny as someone mentioned a few days ago.  kris is not an
accomplished guitar player yet and when it is just her & her guitar, she
does mess up occasionally.  but that is just her and she laughs and you
can't help but laugh with her.  she is a great person and is always playing
in charity events around town.  her cd - things that show is very good - do
check it out.

by the way - her manager is russell carter.

linda

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at 10:45 am -0400 11/21/97, dan perkins wrote:
>>house at pooh corner was originally by loggins & messina.

...i thought it was by a.a. milne.....:o)

happy happy joy joy, it's friday!  :o)

joni  :o)

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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 09:13:26 -0500
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at 11:13 pm 11/20/97, rick wrote:
>
>:-) i am currently working my last week at the evil toys r us after five
>years!!
>
>who was it that said it feels so funny to be free?

it feels great to be free!  a week and a half ago i quit the coaching part
of my job because i was so stressed out.  i feel so much better just to be
teaching and not dealing with snot nosed women who think that they know it all!

lisa

lisa nordeen
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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 10:27:03 -0500
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i kow what i means snowflake if ice and fish is fishing so its ice
fishing<mg>

on fri, 21 nov 1997, karen l. frey wrote:

> love1318@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > i know this question was posted many times, but i'm not sure if i saw an
> > answer.  does anyone know what the fish and snowflake represent?  i am sorry
> > if i am a little behind on the questions. my apologies....  thanks.  = )
> >
> > ~alison
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> i sure don't know, thought it might have something to do with it being a
> winter tour, and the fish usually represents god, just a guess...
>
> love, karen
> ps, the shirt is awesome, comfortable, warm and indigo : )
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hey-
i'm up for the indigohio thingy...i'm sitting here in the middle of lima
feeling perty isolated! we need help!

-b

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all this talk about this tune, and some private gossip with nic  reminds
me of something..back when i was working in rock and roll the best
summer was the summer of 79...we just opened the holiday
star( now known as star plaza in merriville) well all the bands were
out..doobies, kenny loggins, marshall tucker,jefferson airplane ( not
the starship anymore). allman brothers...you name it,,we had them all.
i had the pleasure of meeting kenny during song check and hangin with
the guys,,well the show was on my birthday and unbeknownst to me word
got out..
kenny gets to a real mellow set in the show..sits on the apron with just
his guitar and says..i wanna dedicate this next tune to someone real
special whose having a birthday today...this is for pooh
and then he went into house at pooh corner...made me grin like a baby..
that tune will always be real special to me.....
i wanna thank whoever asked about this tune.(and nic)..it brings back
some real good memories.
pooh

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i may not have been to as many concerts as some of you (4 this year), but i
think last night's concert in madison was the best i have seen.  what a
show!!!  my head is still spinning from the show.

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does anyone have a boot from last night.  i would give my right arm, and my
pinky toe for a copy.  please email me privately.  merci buckets!

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sara-lee has also played for ani difranco.


on fri, 21 nov 1997, becky steele/ventana wrote:

> who else aside from the b-52s has sara lee played for.....i was so surprised
> when i saw her on pop-up video while home sick (yeah right) earlier this week.
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subject:      december 16th lilith fair

hiya everybody!

just a quick question- has anybody heard whether or not lisa loeb will
definitely be playing @ the lilith holiday show? the local radio station had
her listed about a week ago as one of the acts, but on the lilith page (which
still hasn't got a complete list of acts) there's no mention of her.

however, they have added some new acts, so here's who's listed as of today:
on the main stage:
sarah mclachlan
sheryl crow
ig
missy elliot
luscious jackson

on the second stage:
chantal k....
k's choice (isn't this like one of amy's favorite bands or something?)

here's hoping lisa'll be on the second stage at least!!

and on a completely different note, saw a movie called "it's my party" last
night (which i really, really didn't like!) but much to my surprise, olivia
newton john was in it!!! yes!!! onj!!!! not to mention margaret cho!! i just
had to share that, i was raised on onj. <grin>

peace,
  rick
*where would willie mays have been without jackie robinson?
  and who could say where id've been without you to lead the way...*dan bern

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joan m. cyr wrote:
>
> at 8:33 am -0400 11/21/97, karen l. frey wrote:
>
> >what is a baigl?
>
> boston area indigo girls listee.....
>
> btw, with all this talk of the girls having dates down under, isn't it
> about time for them to announce their next boston show?  maybe they can pop
> on back when all the holiday hustle and bustle is over with... i think i
> have some dates in january open.....;o)  ;o)  ;o)
>
> "don't flame me because i'm from boston......"
>
> joni  :o)
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how about a paigl???  i'm from pa, do we have a group???

love, karen

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i haven't seen a full post about last night's madison show so i might as
well get at it. but my oh my, where do i begin?

i can honestly say that over the years i have had some great ig concert
experiences: from my first road trip to indy with then listee dwayne, to
the "oh my gosh i'm at amy's feet and she just reached down and handed me a
pick" experience with greg and lorinda in davenport to dining under candle
light at chastian with ms susan b and those ultra cavalier gals susan and
jocie. and of course i how could i ever forget lorinda and i being mistaken
for amy and emily at that davenport bar. heck, i even signed autographs
that night! well boys and girls, those other experiences, although high on
their on merits, are about to take a backseat to what happened last night
in mad city.

first of all, the girls were the pretty chatty and seemed to be in good
spirits. emily talked about how much she like madison and how she walked
through town and did some shopping with tour guide sara lee. i can't say
they were dead on musically the whole night, but when mistakes were made,
like when em forgot the words to watershed, they handled it with great
sense of humor. i can't remember her exact comment, but when forgot the
"feed the hunger" part and she was like "feed the.... feed the...oh i don't
know just go feed yourselves!" or something  like that. to me one of the
funniest moments was after they did redemption songs and emily commented on
how the piano was out of tune. she looked over at it and goes "bad piano.
bad piano." it cracked me up silly. then again, i also like ace ventura
flicks :)

well i  suppose i should share the set list at some point for all those who
are interested (or am i the only one who cares about such things ;) they
commented several times as to how they had blown the set list from the
start. actually there were lots of conferences and after seeing the "real"
setlist, i understand why. so here is what they sang and in parenthesis i
noted what the setlist actually read:

- tangled up in blue (first time hearing this live -- i loved it)
- reunion
- galileo (if you were there you may have noted a&e smiling and laughing
during   this. stayed tuned for the exciting details as to why!!!)
- don't give that girl a gun (should be re-titled give that girl a tissue.
my, i   thought amy was going to lose it)
- it's alright
- shame on you
- ghost (everyone say "awwwwwwwwwwwwwww")
- shed your skin
- least complicated
- pushing the needle too far sequed right into redemption songs - bad
piano,   bad piano (setlist said jonas & ezekial / glad they passed)
- get out the map
- scooter boys (amy at her best!)
- leeds
- kid fears (setlist said ?)
  (at this point em takes the time to talk to an audience member. gosh, who
  might that be????)
- chickenman
-- encore--
- watershed (a request / setlist said hey kind friend)
- a band cover with danielle howle and troupe. can't think of the name but
they've always wanted to cover it and during lilith shawn colvin taught
them the guitar part so now was time to finally put it to the test. i was
quite good. the setlist called for arcadian driftwood.
- closer to fine (with special guest tambourinist. i think that would be
moi!!!)

yes folks, i got to have my three minutes and 59 seconds of fame. it was so
surreal. i mean were talking a live reinactment of springsteen's dancing in
the dark video. emily bends down, throws her mike back, she points at me (i
look around meekly and go "you mean _me_????") she gives me her hand and
pulls me up on stage, i do my best courtney cox impression. it was
wonderful! ok, ok, it wasn't quite like that but it was my moment so some
exaggeration should be allowed here :):)

anyway, here's how it really went: when i found out i had scored 2nd row
seats, i thought "what the heck, it can't hurt to try to get up for ctf." i
have many noble goals in life, but why not have a silly one every-once- in
-a -while??? that was my motto. to pull it off i decided my mo would be
"cute." and seeing as it's getting to be that "happiest time of the year,"
i decided to play off of that. i made four signs. the first read, "i asked
santa if i could play tambourine with y'all." i held it up during galileo
and immediately got a reaction for both a&e. i then went with the second
sign. it read, "he said 'yes!'" that one prompted smiles. feeling frisky i
then went with the third sign. it read, "let's not disappoint santa!" em's
head rolled back on that one and one guy in front actually came to give me
a high five. i knew they had seen the messages, but didn't get any verbal
response.

i waited for the next sing along, lc, and during that i held up my fourth
sign "santa never lies!" once again i could tell they saw it. still no
verbal acknowledgement so i knew i had to try it at least one more time.
because i was tracking the songs, i knew they were getting close to the end
of their set. after kid fears i held up the "santa never lies" sign one
last time. at that point emily asked me which song i wanted to play
tambourine on. i yelled "the last one!" she said, "the last one? ok, you
can come then." in my row, high fives were flying. i was glad i was there
with my bud kira (hi!!) so she could remind me that i best warm up my wrist
so i didn't pull anything.

that last three songs seemed to take forever. i thought my heart would be
pounding but instead all could think was "don't trip over the vox monitor
on the way up." seriously, i just didn't want to make a fool of myself.
after the band cover, it was time. i was sort of worried as to what i was
supposed to do. i sort of waved and em said "come on up" and annouced to
the crowd that they had a special guest tambourine player that was going to
join them. when i got up, jerry asked me if i had a tambourine license.
"sure do!" i said. i little white lie -- i'm glad he didn't ask me for
proof. em then game over and asked me my name. she introduced me and
mentioned that i asked santa if i could play with them. then away we went!
tambourines are loud and they hurt! i actually have a broken blood vessel
on my left thumb. (oh the price of fame) i could go on and on about what it
felt like up there, but it's so hard to put into words. i was right by amy
the whole time and she looked back and smiled several times. at the end she
shook my hand and said "great job deb" aaaaaaaaaah, i can die now :) i
think i shook em's hand again and said thank you. i got off the stage and
tried to slip back into anonymity, but i was mobbed (too bad i'm not single).

that's pretty much my story. if i have any regrets it's that my sweetie
greg wasn't there, but at least i finally got to share a great show with my
bud kira. if anyone booted the show, i would love a copy. and if any of you
snapped photos (i know at least two listees did) please let me know because
my boss doesn't quite believe me just yet (and i'm having a hard time
believing me too)

still walking around with a silly grin and sore thumb...

deb, guest tambourinist

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yes, kris mckay is wonderful! she does the best version of "tear stained
eye" ever!! not to mention a great version of joan armatrading's "the
weakness in me"


>
>>i just wanted to throw in another plug for kris.  she lives and plays in
>>austin.  i have seen her many times.
>
well, actually i have heard that she has recently relocated to los
angeles area. but still plays shows here (austin) a couple of times a
>month.


and i would add my plug to her cd the things that show. when i first got
this cd it lived in my cd player for like two months. a great cd.

peace,
dan

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>sara lee (my hero!) also played in gang of four (i do believe). and doesn't
>she have her own band when she is not on the road with ig or ani?
>
>peace,
>
>dan perkins
>
>"you can do what you want, you won't get far, cause the only way to groove is
>on the bass guitar!"
>                           -todd snider
>
>"how can she say she loves you, when she doesn't know the bass lines to all
>of your songs?"
>                          -emily kaitz
>
>
>
>-----original message-----
>from:  carol a. petricevic [smtp:cpetrice@online.emich.edu]
>sent:  friday, november 21, 1997 10:30 am
>subject:       re: nigc -sara lee and other bands
>
>sara-lee has also played for ani difranco.
>
>
>on fri, 21 nov 1997, becky steele/ventana wrote:
>
>> who else aside from the b-52s has sara lee played for.....i was so
>>surprised
>> when i saw her on pop-up video while home sick (yeah right) earlier this
>>week.
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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 12:15:51 -0500
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subject:      re: house at pooh corner

in a message dated 97-11-21 00:25:22 est, you write:

<< did amy or emily write this? or neither?
i've checked out lifeblood and it doesn't say. >>

house at pooh corner was written by kenny loggins.  he wrote an update to it
in 1994 and recorded it on a children's cd called return to pooh corner with
the following introduction:

...in which pooh and you have an unexpected reunion and meet a new friend.  i
originally wrote "house at pooh corner" when i was supposed to be studying
for finals as a high school senior.  it was my farewell to childhood.
twenty-eight years and four children later i return to pooh corner to assess
the road travelled; a lost and found kenny, an older and wiser kenny, and
what do ya' know...the child never really left.

and the song has this added verse:

it's hard to explain
how a few precious
things seem to follow
throughout all our lives
after all's said and done
i was watching my son
sleeping there with my
bear by his side.
so i tucked him in, i
kissed him and as i was going
i swear that old bear whispered
"boy welcome home"

makes me cry everytime i hear it!  i think the nitty gritty dirt band
actually had the biggest hit with this song back in the 70's.  more than you
needed to know, i imagine, but thanks for helping remember this lovely song!

pam

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subject:      we met emily in chicago!!!!! :)
x-cc:         chandra-depere@nova.novanet.com

hi ig fans!

i am coming out of lurkdom once again as i finally have my "i met them" (ok,
not really "them", but emily) story to tell!!!  yeeeeee haaaaaaa.  i now
understand the frantic excitement of others who have posted such messages!

before i get to the story, however, i have a very important request.  for some
freaky reason, i was cut off from the listserv about 2 weeks ago and after
many attempts at trying to figure out what the hey as going on, i finally
decided to just subscribe all over again.  the sad thing is tho that i am
guessing i missed all of the reviews and talk of the nov. 16th show at the
chicago rosemount!!!!  what an idiotic time to be cut off from you all.  if
anyone still has them could find it in his/her heart to forward me any of the
messages regarding the chicago shows, i will be forever indebted!!!!!

i will premise my story (this is gonna be a long one people, so if you are not
interested or don't have the time to read it now either hit delete or come
back later) by saying that my very-best-friend-since-6th-grade and i have been
die hard ig fans since about 1988.  about a year or so ago as i was watching
the "watershed" video, and had a "premonition" (i know that sounds bizarre,
even to me, but it is the honest truth) that we would one day meet them--which
of course i told my friend.  then, about 2 weeks or so ago i said to her "ya
know, maybe we need to more intentionally try to put ourselves in situations
where this might happen".

okay, now on the rosemont concert (we were there on sunday)...what a cool
venue the rosemont is!  very different from northrup auditorium, which is the
only place besides lilith that we had ever seen them.  an awesome concert
("help me make it through the nite was especially cool)!  if anyone was on the
balcony, we were the crazy dancing fools in the back.  :)  scarey that our
seats were so far away when we called 25 minutes after tix went on sale, but
anyway.  danielle howle rocks!  what a funny gal...we met her too by the by
:).  suffice to say that it was probably the best concert we have ever been to
and that alone would have made the long haul from minnesota very worthwhile.

it gets even better!  after the concert, we went down to the main floor to buy
danielle howle's cd and i said to my friend "let's just go into the main floor
seating area and scope things out".  i believe that at this point fate took us
by the hand!  we started to chat with a roadie guy ("do ya have any good tips
on how to meet the girls?") and although i think maybe he thought we were
freaks, he suggested we walk backstage and go outside to wait by the tour bus.
so...we just sauntered right on back stage, which was weird cuz there seemed
to be no security and no one even looked at us funny--i guess we just blended
in.  :)  we then went out the back door and met up with about 8 other awesome
fans (hi sue who writes for daemon underground, thanks for letting us use your
pen, you were too cool!) and we just hung around--man was it cold-- and
basically watched the roadies get on the bus and harrassed (spelled wrong, i
am sure) the bus driver.  :)  then some guy came out who we referred to as
"kenny g.", but who the hey knows who he was and he said that the bus was
gonna be moved over to the other door, so we moved too.  shortly thereafter,
sara lee came out and we said "hey sarah...good job"  and a few seconds later
out came amy!  she did not give any sign of wanting to chit-chat with us :),
which was cool, we can respect that--but did say "thanks y'all" in response to
our ultra clever once again "hey amy, good job".  i got a pic of her in
transit from the venue to the bus with a very cool smile and she looks great.
the bus then left and so did 3 or so of the diehard fans we were hanging with
(soooooo sorry to those poor gals who left and missed the next series of
events!!!!!!!  i hope you're not reading this!). danielle howle then came out
(she is so adorable, i gotta say) and we totally gushed over her and she
signed our cd cover and talked about how flattered--and cold!--she was.  she
tipped us off that emily was still in the building!

at this point everything kind of becomes a blur, so the accuracy of my story
may deteriorate some.  some minutes later a rosemont police guy/security
officer came out of the same door and said something like "hey, you
gals...come in here", which is when i totally knew that my premonition was
going to come true!  we entered the back hallway area near the dressing rooms
(yeah, warmth!) and there stood emily!!!!!!! woooooooo hooooooooo!!!!  she was
wearing her ultra-cute bib overalls with a white shirt and a major navy blue
down jacket and the first thing see did was give us all (5 of us at that
point) huge, very genuine hugs.  cooooooooool, huh?  we all gushed some over
her--ya know, i had thought about what i might say when the day-oh-premonition
came, but it all seemed to fly on out the window at that point--  here are a
sampling of our comments:

"you are soooo awesome, thank you" (clever, huh?  duh!  it was really the most
i could seem to muster up)
"we are trying really hard not to be idiot fans" (my friend said this and
emily said "you're not!")
"we have been waiting 10 years for this"
"we've been friends for 20 years"

of course, we were completely unprepared and had no paper (or pen, thanks
again sue!), so had emily sign our jeans! our name followed by a simple little
heart and "emily".   any suggestions on what to do with our jeans now?  we
have thought about having someone embroider over her signature, or possibly
creating a shrine somehow :), but we have made no firm decisions. we also all
had our pics taken with emily, which is super cool and really captures the
whole scene!  i often have to look at the pic just to believe that it all
happened!  i went to kinkos and had it made into an 8 1/2 x 11 which of course
is plastered on my fridge and also prominently displayed in my office!  my
friend and i had to guard the film with our lives and race to the 1 hour photo
place.

after we all had our pics taken, we were shuffled out of the backstage area
and just stood outside (brrrrrr again) like a bunch of goons in shock!   emily
then came out to hop in the car (a rolls royce my friend says) with what
appeared to be a couple of friends.  we then walked back to our hotel
(directly across from the venue) and sue and her friends went to their car and
at about the same time we all bust-a-gut screaming hysterically!  screaming
and hugging and completely losing it for the next couple of hours.  our dream
came true!

of course, we cannot stop reliving the whole experience--over and over and
over again--and thinking about what we should have said.  if i had the chance
to do it all over again, i would probably be alot more articulate :)  among
other things, i would have said "i have an 8 year old daughter who loves
you--she says when she grows up she wants to be an indigo girl!"

phew!  in closing, i will say that emily is every bit as warm, friendly,
down-to earth and caring as i expected her to be...probably even more so.  as
fans, we are changed forever for the positive.  thanks for listening!  i'd be
happy to entertain questions :)  oh, and remember, if anyone would be nice
enough to forward to me any "rosemont" or related messages that they still
have, i will be forever indebted!

take care y'all...

pam

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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 11:58:38 -0500
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pardon my ignorance, but...where's the show?

meghan

*1956...budapest is falling*

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subject:      boston front seats or backstage passes

does anyone know i can get a friend either front seats either the first 3
rows or a backstage pass? thanks

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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 12:51:19 -0500
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subject:      re: reply to your comment earlier

in a message dated 97-11-21 03:18:23 est, tigger writes:

<< umm, melissa - when you talk about their family situation - whih i really
dont think you have any way beyond hearsay to know about - that's called
invading their privacy.  we don't do that here, and you know it. >>

uhhhh.... i think that proposed as a hypothetical situation ....

however, i do see how people might run with it.....making it
a poor choice of hypothetical situations. (can you say "x-files"?)

:)
ps- my cat has worms.

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>  k's choice (isn't this like one of amy's favorite bands or something?)

yes, k's choice is really awesome:p. sarah's voice is just amazing.
for your information, k's choice was support act for ig on the
swamp ophelia tour (1994) and it was the beginning of a long
friendship ( and mutual admiration). the highlight is the cover
of neil young's 'rocking in the  free world' performed
together between ig and k's choice (b-side of several cds's
as power of two or touch me fall).

for more k's choice info, check out:

http://www.geocities.com/~kschoice/
http://oloon.student.utwente.nl/~kschoice/
http://www.epiccenter.com/epiccenter/docs/artistupdate.qry?artistid=93

btw, on the last issue of k's choice fanclub bulletin appeared
a full color picture of amy ray and kc and i'm thinking about
scan it and put it on my web. i'm sure that a lot of you would
enjoy it a lot :)

1st tip- check k's choice out!
2nd tip- go to this url:
  http://www.rockmusic.org/dover/audioe.htm
and download some songs. adviced order:

- the morning after
- angelus
- grey
- green
- sick girl
- serenade
- she will ( my favorite )
- then :whatever song you choose

whenever you have heard it, tell me what you think about it.

                 enjoy!, ferran

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  valencia,the valencian land,(...still spain but not for too long)
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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 11:16:06 -0700
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subject:      re: nigc -sara lee and other bands
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on fri, 21 nov 1997, becky steele/ventana wrote:

> who else aside from the b-52s has sara lee played for.....i was so surprised
> when i saw her on pop-up video while home sick (yeah right) earlier this week.
>
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she's also played for gang of four and i believe there may be another one,
but i can't think of it off the top of my head.

amy m.

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>yeah.  that kinda reminds me of that line about how the beatles was
>a band paul mccartney was in before wings.

wait a minute... paul mccartney was in a *band*?!?

(heh)

deanna

obigc:  five days and counting until i see ig in atlanta!
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tanner9903@aol.com wrote:


> does anyone know i can get a friend either front seats either the first 3
> rows or a backstage pass? thanks
pray to the indigo gods?

i heard there were a few good seats left (singles) possible with
obstructed view, dont know but try calling next 617-426-next

also keep your ears open cause its a benifit show so im sure tickets
will be available to win or something from radio stations in the area.

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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 14:04:56 -0500
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from:         dianne connell <tuesdays_child@juno.com>
subject:      re: we need a group like them baigls!
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you know what they say...

imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

thanks y'all!!

dianne

i don't set people straight.  they're just born that way.

charter member -- ssim yknib naf bulc
tuesdays_child@juno.com     tuesdayschild@pc-webonics.com
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subject:      re: we need a group like them baigls!
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on fri, 21 nov 1997 02:06:04 -0400 jill certo <jillian.certo@oberlin.edu>
writes:

... wow, this is starting to feel like high school, and the
>baigls are the big popular crowd-- the cheerleaders, the football
>team,
>the student council.

oh my!!  i've never been a popular kid before!  i'm not sure i know how
to deal with this.  does this mean i have to act stuck up and snobby to
everyone now?

dianne

i don't set people straight.  they're just born that way.

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why is it that every time i think of meeting the indigo girls i feel
like i'm gonna hurl?!
i read  all of your stories and i'm like, "man, if i ever did that, i'd
throw up on them." i can't imagine having enough guts to stand by the
bus and wait.....although i'd like to...does that make sense?!
i shared this story with someone just the other night.
although i've been a fan for a couple of years, my first indigo girls
concert ever was the fraze pavillion concert in dayton, ohio(6-13-97)
just this past summer....it was great...
my college roommate and i were really excited, but the thought of having
to deal with them face to face never even crossed our minds. so, we're
just there, walking around and completely oblivious to the world.  it's
like 6:30 or somethin' and we're walking down the sidewalk (and no one
else is around...anywhere!) and who is right in front of us, but amy.
oh god... typical list story huh?!
the funny thing is, she almost crapped her pants cuz we walked right by
her...she did this double take, like "man?!  they didn't even notice
me!!!" all the time i'm thinking..."dear god, if i stop...i'm gonna pass
out." therefore, i missed my big opportunity. :(
things improved though, later, when we saw her again. we were eating out
on the grass and she actually approached us...what the?! she at first
looked at us and laughed, like "you're the ones who ignored me before!"
she must have known that i was gonna barf. we talked to her briefly....
just small talk, ya' know?! no more than like 2 or 3 minutes. luckily, i
ended up with her autograph and a couple of photos. :)
so folks, that's as good as it gets.  i know this isn't as interesting
as some of the others but hell, it's good enough for me!

take care!
bethany :)

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this is in reply to the gal who asked about sara lee's playing history.
jill
---------- forwarded message ----------
date: tue, 18 nov 1997 10:12:40 -0800
from: gwen keyt-blalock <gkeyt@juno.com>
to: nadc@garden.net
subject: sara lee

seeing all this sara lee wonderment made me dig through my indigo girls
folder for a little bio from a tour booklet from their rites of passage
tour in 92.  sara is an incredible talent who has been in demand for some
time; her stint with ani happened to coincide with the year-plus break
the indigo girls took after the swamp ophelia tour ended in 95.  this
info is a little dated, but intriguing nonetheless.

spotlight:      sara lee

        sara lee is a member of a musical family from england - both
parents
were professional music teachers and her sister is a classical cellist.
sara
is one of the more famous players to emerge from the 1980's british
alternative music scene.
        sara formed the stilettos in 1978, a punk band based in london.
soon thereafter, she began an ongoing association with robert fripp in
1980 as a member of the league of gentlemen. sara played with robyn
hitchcock
in 1981 for a brief period before joining the gang of four. following
that
band's breakup in 1984, sara formed the raging hormones, a current
project
with steve jordan and charley drayton.
        in the late 80's, sara toured as the bassist for the thompson
twins
in the u.s. and europe. she was then brought in by the b-52s to record
"cosmic thing" and toured with them for the next two years.
        on the suggestion of producer scott litt, indigo girls invited
sara
lee to perform on "nomads indians saints." the sessions led to a
nationwide
tour and participation on the subsequent live ep, "back on the bus,
y'all."
sara was back in the studio with amy and emily throughout the recording
of
"rites of passage" and will continue to play with them on the "rites of
passage" world tour.

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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 15:40:02 est
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      bizness and pleasure

hi skip and muffies!

okay, bizniss first: please, noone, nobody, no more requests for the burlington
boot, i got a leetle carried away with my badass and now i have about 364
padded envelopes on the floor of my bedroom....eek! stop! no more! at least for
a while, pleeze (this doesn't mean you if i already wrote ya)...

now on to the pleasure.... :-)

holy good karma flyin around this place!
i gotta second pooh's sentiments to melmel wilbur...who sent me a copy of
"daughters of the moon, sisters of the sun", autographed by our sheroes! yesss!
this almost makes up for the fact that i have been to 30+ ig shows and i've
never met them! i can almost hear the conversation now:

melmel: hi emily, hi amy...can you sign these books for my friends,  pooh and
sus?
amy: what and what?
emily: boo hoos? yoo hoos?  huh?
melmel: uh....pooh...p-o-o-h....and sus...s-u-s
amy:....(pause) can we just write "hi freakazoids, love amy and emily" instead?

anyhoo, thanks mel, you brought tears to my eyes and tinglies to my winglies!
all in one nanosecond! i've gotten so many beautiful things from this
list...close friends, blowup dolls, cheese labels, marriage proposals from gals
in washington ;)....

and to find out that the inimitable deb reiser got to sing on ctf last night!!!
woooooo f***in hoo! girlfriend, if anyone ever appreciated that moment of
glory, it was you!

kumbayah moments all over this list these days! almost makes up for those with
thier panties in a nibbin over potsmoking! ;)

well, gotta run, thanks for letting me publicly spew

sus
who definitely doesn't smell like barbie dolls

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subject:      booking @ high schools..
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hey y'all-
i was wondering...
i'm a junior at phillips academy (andover) in andover, ma.  since i'd heard
the girls were doing some high school shows in the spring- i was wondering
who we could get in touch w/ to see if they would be intersted in comeing to
p.a.   two years ago- we had ani here and it was a huge success...we have
huge amounts of interest on campus for them to come...so if anyone knows who
it was that i would get in touch with to see if they would be
intersted..that'd be great!
thanks guys---
-emily
emiizen@aol.com
or
emiaizen@aol.com

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>that's pretty much my story. if i have any regrets it's that my sweetie
>greg wasn't there, but at least i finally got to share a great show with my
>bud kira. if anyone booted the show, i would love a copy. and if any of you
>snapped photos (i know at least two listees did) please let me know because
>my boss doesn't quite believe me just yet (and i'm having a hard time
>believing me too)

oh my oh my oh my oh my!!!!  deb!!!  ahhhhhhhh!!  i just don't know what to
say.   my little deb made it on stage!!!!  woooohooo!!  i am speechless for
the first time like ever.  i am sooooo happy for you.  i am soo sorry i was
not there.  damn that job!  i should have quit :)


ok this is a warning to all going to the milwaukee show in december.  deb
and i have now both had unreal front row experiences separately.  we will
both be at the show in milwaukee.  i am thinking cosmic things are going to
happen when we combine forces.  so come one come all and dare to experience
what will happen.

my guess is that we will both be spotted in the crowd by a and e.  they
will motion for us to sit on the stage and sing backup during the whole
show.  we'll both play tambourine.  and then we'll get backstage and say hi
some more.  and to top it off--amy will go and valet our car for us and
emily will help us get out of the lot before everyone else.  oh yeah and we
will be allowed to do this with like 10-20 friends so start ass kissing any
time now ;-).

deb you rock my world!!!!!!

have a nice weekend y'all

greg

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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 16:01:49 -0500
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in a message dated 97-11-21 10:34:59 est, blaze@voyageronline.net writes:

<< well since the girls are from the south... >>
to the baigls....
emily said it best....i believe :)
"...when god made me born a yankee, he was teasin'
there's no place like home, and nothing more pleasing,
than the southland in the springtime..."
trying to put baigls back in their places...above the mason dixon line... :)
c'mon, georgians...we need to show these listees where its really at.. :)
~writing from georgia...indigoland...a.k.a. utopia... :)
laugh today.
katie

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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 16:08:15 -0500
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subject:      mpls questions, comments

hi everyone :-)
minneapolis was a great show.  i know the setlist has already been posted,
and i'm not sure i remember it all anyway, so i won't even try.
danielle howle was insane, and very cute.  i was a little pissed off at all
the talking, though.
amy and emily both seemed really relaxed and happy.  during get out the map,
emily messed up the lyrics ("i'm heavier by the load, and heavier by the
load") and kind of rolled her eyes sideways.  i don't think anybody really
noticed, but her little "oops" look was cute. :-)
i saw 3 signs--one big one hung over the side of the balcony that said love
will come to you, (to which amy said something like "we see you") one sort of
in the middle of the auditorium which said something about playing guitar
with them (anybody from the list?) and one near where i was sitting that said
"you complete us"  :-)  no comment from the girls to those signs.
emily introduced it's alright as a song about "relaxing..even though the
world is fucked up..."
and my favorite part of the show....amy came back out...alone...and i smacked
the person i was with on the arm and said "she's gonna play it!!"  it's ok,
he'd already realized that i'm a little crazy...  ;-)  the entire audience
sang along, and amy was lovely as usual, and thanked us when she was done.
do you think she gets annoyed when the audience gets that loud?
ok, this is getting long, so i'm gonna wrap it up...
i just have a couple of questions...
1)  what was with the stupid people sitting in the orchestra pit???  my
ticketmaster guy tried to get me some of those tix, but he said he couldn't.
i've heard a few other similar stories, so i assume they were for people who
knew people, or something.  most of them didn't stand up until galileo, and
even then, no one seemed too excited to be there...(i apoligize if anyone
here had seats down there...that's just the impression i got...)
2) how do you get aftershow passes???  we were waiting backstage, and there
was this security guy checking people.  he opened the door to let some people
in, and i could see amy about 10 feet away....just chatting with people.  how
depressing.  if anybody has any info, or if any of you had one of those
passes, please email me and tell me how you got them.  i'm really curious.
thanks for listening,
jen

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>who else aside from the b-52s has sara lee played for.....i was so
surprised
>when i saw her on pop-up video while home sick (yeah right) earlier this
week.
>

i recently bought fiona apple's cd and noticed that sara lee plays on a
couple of songs on it.

elena
elena@cruzio.com

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at 03:19 pm 11/21/97, jen wrote:

>1)  what was with the stupid people sitting in the orchestra pit???  my
>ticketmaster guy tried to get me some of those tix, but he said he couldn't.

i know someone who has had a pit ticket in the past and got it through a
radio station give away.  i know that zone105 was giving away tickets so
that would be my guess as to how they got them.

lisa

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hey all,

i second jen's question. how do you get aftershow passes? alas, i waited
too long to get on this list so that i could use this information when
they were here in my fair city, but i am anxiously anticipating the
recently posted dates in seattle in january. so, if anyone has any info.,
it would be greatly appreciated.

thanx y'all,
amy m.

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        hey, could anybody in australia help me out? my friend laura
just found out today that her study abroad thingy was approved for next
semester, so she'll be somewhere around adelaide when the girls come
through. can somebody help me get a hold of a ticket for her?

        sarah
        spinsker@goucher.edu

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on fri, 21 nov 1997, dianne connell wrote:
> ... wow, this is starting to feel like high school, and the
> >baigls are the big popular crowd-- the cheerleaders, the football
> >team, the student council.
>
> oh my!!  i've never been a popular kid before!  i'm not sure i know how
> to deal with this.  does this mean i have to act stuck up and snobby to
> everyone now?

yeah, you do. ;)  you've gotta own stock in aqua net, try your hardest
(and spend 2 hrs. every morning) trying to emulate the girl on the cover
of ym, never ever *eat* in front of boys, say things like, "oh my gawd,
look at her shirt!  like, i bet she got *that* thing at a gar-age sale!
as if!", and shop at the gap ("did'ya belt 'em?  did'ya cinch 'em?!")
good luck, comrade.
jill

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subject:      re: indigo bravery!!

in a message dated 97-11-21 16:22:56 est, you write:

<<
why is it that every time i think of meeting the indigo girls i feel
like i'm gonna hurl?! >>

when we met them last week one of the people whom i was with cried!

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subject:      sara lee played for...

sara lee besides playing for a&e and ani and the b 52s has also played for
gang of four and the thompson twins and somebody else but the name escapes me

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hey y'all,

sorry for wasting bandwidth, but this was so cute, i had to share

hugs, karen

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hi dana, karen, and warren,

it's friday and i thought you could use a laugh.

lor

>>>>
>>>>hi,we all know those cute little computer symbols called
>"emoticons,"
>>>>where  :)  means a smile and :( is a frown.   sometimes these are
>>>>represented by :-) and  :-( respectively.  well, how about some "ass
>>>>cons"?
>>>>
>>>>      here goes:
>>>>
>>>>       (_!_)      a regular ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       (__!__)    a fat ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       (!)        a tight ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       (_._)      a flat ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       (_^_)      a bubble ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       (_*_)      a sore ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       (_!__)     a lop-sided ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       {_!_}      a swishy ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       (_o_)      an ass that's been around
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       (_o_)     an ass that's been around even more
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       (_x_)     kiss my ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       (_x_)     leave my ass alone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      (_zzz_)    a tired ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       (_o^o_)   a wise ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       (_13_)     an unlucky ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      (_$_)     money coming out of his ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      (_?_)   dumb ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                        ..ooo*"""**ooooo .oo*""*ooo..
>>>>              .  oo*"           "*o.oo*"           "*o.
>>>>             . o"                   'o"                      "o
>>>>              o                      o                         *o
>>>>            .o                       o                           'o
>>>>            o                        o                             o.
>>>>
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>>>>           o                          o                            o
>>>>         "o                          o                           o =
>>>>
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>>>>                o                     o                  o
>>>>                 o                    o                 o
>>>>                 o                    o                 o
>>>>                 o                    o                 o
>>>>                 o                    o                 o
>>>>
>>>>you have been e-mooned! send this to 5 people within the next hour =
>>>>and you will be blessed with people laughing at your e-mail.  happy
>>>>e-mooning!!!
>>>>
>>>>this is not a chain letter, so if you don't mail it out, you won't =
>>>>have bad luck.  (but who wouldn't want to emoon a friend?)
>>>>

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hey - for all you out there planning on meeting at mokabe's tomorrow (at
6-6:30 or so...toye posted that one earlier)  i'm probably not going to
have a sign like flamer, but am planning on being there...will probably be
hanging out by the "bar" area.  don't know yet what i'll be wearing - my
michigan womyn's music festival shirt perhaps? - but look for me and alice
- i'm the one with short light brown hair with blonde highlights and she's
got short dark brown hair (ok...your pretty basic "dykes at a
coffeehouse").  she used to work there so we'll probably be gossiping with
the ones behind the bar.

27 hours and counting!

-sarah

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hey now all.  since i don't get the daily e-mail here anymore i don't know
how well covered this show has been in reviews, but it was such a barnburner
that i feel i've got to add my take on things.  enjoy!

indigo girls

oscar mayer theatre, civic center - madison, wi

november 20, 1997

tangled up in blue      w/ david ellison on harmonica
reunion
galileo
don't give that girl a gun
its alright
shame on you    (extended ending)
ghost
shed your skin
least complicated
pushing the needle too far >>>
redemption songs!
get out the map
scooter boys    (w/ incredible neil young style jam to end; jerry went off!)
leeds
kid fears!!!
chickenman >>>  w/ david ellison on harmonica
harmonica solo >>>
chickenman

e - watershed     (emily: instead of "feed the hunger" sung, "feed the ah,
feed something!?!")
long way to ride, long way to go     w/ danielle howle and band (cover song
shawn colvin taught them)
closer to fine  w/ danielle howle & band, deb (madison local) on tambourine

fashion report:

emily: black, long-sleeve, cotton polo w/ dark grey dress pants.  shiny
brown shoes.

amy - dark grey pants with button-down, vertical striped, grey and white
long-sleeve shirt.  scuffy black-leather shoes.  (same motif as chicago on
sunday) left sleeve was down and right sleeve remained rolled up.  hair was
feathered out just a bit, not so close to head as usual; amy was looking
good, i must say!

sara: black tank top w/ dark blue pants and red open-toe shoes.  donned a
black, red, and white flannel before shame on you and kept it on the rest of
the night.

review:

well, let me tell you, last night's show here in madison was by far the best
of the three we saw this week.  it was full of energy, well played, and
seemed to be geared towards a truly indigo-knowledgeable crowd; madison has
hosted indigo shows for as long as they've been touring and has a very
strong and supportive 10% society presence.  a liberal town this is, i think
the girls have always had an affinity for madison which they made clear a
number of times throughout the show.

the highlights of this concert got underway with the opener, though not as
steamy as the chicago tangled up, this one had power simply because they
opened the show with it; what a classic way to set the tone!  reunion was
great for its semi-rare distinction, and then a fine rendition of the staple
sing-along hit, galileo.  three straight from the new disc and then a song
we had been hoping for all week - ghost!  gorgeous delivery by emily and the
band, this one was worth going to 3 shows just to hear once.  after shed
your skin emily asked, "did the girl i met at canterbury bookstore get the
tickets?"  a girl screamed out and em said, "ok, cool, she got 'em."  least
complicated, and then came one of the best one-two punches i've ever heard
them perform: pushing the needle too far into redemption songs!  this was a
show stopper.  amy's vocals and brooding intensity pushed to their limits in
needle; emily on piano - the two of them alone on stage during redemption
songs.  i had not heard them perform rs prior to this concert and was
completely blown away!  this show was cooking.  scooter boys finally struck
a chord with me all the way through tonight, the notable section was again
the ending.  instead of a heated mantra from amy the whole band went into an
intense neil young style jam, in which i thought jerry was heading for drum
solo, as amy went off into a crescendo of fast picking and feedback i was
reminded of the dead's improvisational jams known as "space," in which the
band pushed the limits of conventional music to a chaotic free-form improv
session; the girls and co. really impressed me here.  the highlight of the
entire week came in the form of kid fears.  moody, deep, spellbinding,
spectacular.  i can't describe the power of this song live, it was simply
awesome!  amy and emily's vocal interweaving was at a pinnacle and the
audience provided the backup where michael stipe would have been.  this
moment was the reason i had been to 3 shows in the last 5 days, fantastic!
a fine chickenman, complete with david ellison's blistering harmonica jam
(but no "mr. buzzard" verse),  closed out the main set a minute shy of an
hour and a half, a full 15 minutes longer than either of the chicago shows.

coming out for the encore sara headed towards the piano and i though we were
about to hear a hey kind friend, emily waived her off and announced, "this
is from an obscure album of ours.  some of you may not even know this one."
my heart started to pound, i thought they were dusting off and about to
revive the crazy game i had been dreaming of, instead we were treated to fun
and uplifting watershed.  at the end of the first verse where emily should
have sung "feed the hunger," she vocally slipped and sang, "...feed the, ah,
feed something!?!"  amy laughed and said, "feed something???  how 'bout
'feed the hunger'!?!"  hilarious.  the slip made the song more endearing,
nonetheless.  emily then called danielle howle and the tantrums on stage for
an all out jam.  assuming it was closer to fine time already, i was feeling
a little disappointed, but alas, she added, "shawn colvin taught us this
song on guitar during lilith fair.  everyone's been practicing their parts
and we're going to try it out here tonight."  the song's title i gathered
was long way to ride, long way to go and vocals came from all over the
place; danielle howle, amy, emily, d. howle's bass player, and even two
verses from jerry morrota!!! outstanding.  this was a very neat twist and i
thoroughly enjoyed the song, as did everyone else in the civic center.  a
hot closer to fine ended things, complete with amy brining deb up on stage
to play the tambourine.  amy, "deb said she asked santa if she could play
with us on this song.  well deb, you got your wish!"  what a joyous show the
girls put on in madison a week before holiday season; a wonderful present
for those lucky enough to be there.
nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile.  md :-)

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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 15:04:12 -0800
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from:         jeanette lynn <reposa@scf-fs.usc.edu>
subject:      anyone know linda napikoski? (nigc)
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sorry to bother everyone, but i know that linda napikoski was on the list
for a while, and she did a bunch of booting.  she graduted from usc last
year, and i  neveer got her new address (in arizona, i think) does anyone
have it? please email me privately!  thanks a bunch!!!


                          inspired by insanity,
                                jeanette


                              we own nothing
                              nothing is ours
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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 18:22:49 -0500
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subject:      nice, nice and even nicer

in a message dated 97-11-21 17:03:25 est, you write:

<<
holy good karma flyin around this place!
i gotta second pooh's sentiments to melmel wilbur...who sent me a copy of
"daughters of the moon, sisters of the sun", autographed by our sheroes!
yesss!
this almost makes up for the fact that i have been to 30+ ig shows and i've
never met them! i can almost hear the conversation now:
  >>
boy, mel must have taken a double dose of her nice pills that day, or else
she just got tired of listening to me crab about ig not coming to texas,
because in my mailbox today was my very own copy of aforementioned book with
my name, followed by love, emily and peace, amy (they used the little symbols
of course!!)

i'm still in shock.  mel once had the effrontery to accuse me of being nice -
i'm glad that she has finally been outed as the undisputed queen of nice on
the list!!!  and if anybody ever flames her again, it sounds like there are
at least three of us out here who will rush in with the extinguishers :-)

i love ya, mel!!!!

pam

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subject:      nigc guitar tabs?

yes i know, there's allready too much nigc... but i figure that i very rarely
post, so i'm just making up for lost bandwith.... or something like that.
i know it's a long shot, but i was just wondering if anyone out there has tab
or chords to any dar williams or gerard mchugh stuff.  i've been wanting to
play a few of their songs, and i'm sure it would be good practice for my
relative pitch to figure it out myself, but somehow this seemed more
efficient.

west of bishes
shana

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its not the one by joni mitchell..its the one on the studio
outakes,,flip side of my study hall boot
its got to be out there..
thats why i was suprised that no ones ever mentuioned it before..
if anyone can clue me in i'd appreciate it
pooh

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ok, so i tell everyone what a wunnerful show rosie will have today since she
has barbra streisand, and i come home and find that i taped the wrong channel.

so, does anyone want to know what happened on "guiding light" today?

:o(

i'm sure it was a really good show.  really good.

oh well, off to see patty larkin....have a good nite y'all!
joni :o)

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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 17:56:58 -0600
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hey y'all-

i'm going to be taking over the activism part of the color me indigo site
for audrey and i kinda need your help.  see the thing is, the page is
really simple right now (http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~abstein/colormeindigo
and click on "activism").  what i want to do with the page is make it a
resource for y'all to find out about organizations that other list members
are involved in.  it will basically be a list of organizations with a brief
description of the organization, the contact info for the organization, and
then a list member who is involved with the organization's email addy (the
list member's email addy is optional, if you don't want to deal with that
you don't have to).  so an entry could read:
honor the earth (will have a link to web page if there is one for the
organization)
(address, phone number go here)
the honor the earth campaign creates awareness and support for indigenous
                      environmental issues and leverages needed financial
and political resources for
                      the survival of sustainable indigenous communities.
the campaign will develop
                      these resources by utilizing music, the arts, media,
and indigenous wisdom to
                      ask people to recognize our joint dependency on the
earth, join the honor the
                      earth campaign and be a voice for those who are not
heard.
list contact:  amyray@yeahright.com

make sense?  the purpose is to let y'all have a place to let others know
about organizations you are involved in and a place for you to find out
about new/different organizations.

if you are involved in an organization  and would like to let others know
about it, email me (mandi96@airmail.net) and let me know and i'll put your
organization on the site.

thanks y'all!!!!
mandi

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not planning on having a sign either, but i'll be wearing a maroon ig swamp ophelia tour shirt.  i'll be the butch looking one and i'll be with a femme looking friend.  can't wait to meet you guys!

toye

sarah wrote:
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> hey - for all you out there planning on meeting at mokabe's tomorrow (at
> 6-6:30 or so...toye posted that one earlier)  i'm probably not going to
> have a sign

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date:         fri, 21 nov 1997 19:13:49 -0500
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subject:      the water is wide

hi again everyone-
i've got another request this time--does anyone have a good boot of the water
is wide from lilith?  i'd like to get it for a friend.
thanks again,
jen

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