lifeblood: listlogs: 1997-12c


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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 00:06:04 est
reply-to:     memememi <memememi@aol.com>
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in a message dated 97-12-14 23:12:28 est, you write:

> this is exactly what the aforementioned christmas present cd's are.  there
>  are now three volumes, i believe, and they are put out by the same people
>  who did the dylan tribute.  ig aren't on one of 'em, but michelle, ashley
>  & mark, catbird seat, kristen hall, shawn mullins, billy pilgrim (before
>  they were bp), hootie & the  blowfish (well, it can't be all good...this
>  is before they were bigm though, so it's sorta cool for that reason),
>  uncle green (doing a cool "medley" of sorts...) and many others are...does
>  anyone know if this is still available anywhere?
>


yes - it is available at eat more records in atlanta.  i saw it there (a few
copies of each volume) on saturday.

lisa

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 00:36:20 -0500
reply-to:     sarah pinsker <spinsker@goucher.edu>
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> date:    sun, 14 dec 1997 23:31:07 est
> from:    ndygotiggr <ndygotiggr@aol.com>
> subject: re: hanukkah album???
>
> so okay, i'm ignorant and catholic... at least, supposed to be
> catholic... and
> i am wondering...  are there hanukkah carols and things like that
> solstice carols, anyone?
>
there are hanukkah songs, but we don't call them carols, and we don't go
around singing them at other houses ;)
i think there actually is kwanzaa music, and if anybody could write a
solstice song, it would be loreena mckennitt(sp?).
the store that i work in has a small cd collection.. a few weeks ago,the
cd rep came and announced he would be bringing in a christmas music
display.
my boss vetoed it, and the guy asked why, and tim said that he used to
put up a tree, but then he got yelled at for not having a hanukkah
menorah, so he put one of those up too the next year, and then he got
yelled at for not putting up something to do with kwanzaa, so he gave up
on celebrating the holidays altogether.
he told the rep that if he was going to bring in christmas music, he had
to find chanukah and kwanzaa and solstice music as well, and the guy
went grumbling back to his office about how barbra streisand was jewish,
and had a christmas album, and barry manilow was jewish and had a
christmas album, and didn't those count?
so, now we have a big 'ol rack with hanson and mariah carey's christmas
best, and one album each of kwanzaa and hanukkah songs.

sorry this is long,  back to my paper...
sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 00:53:54 -0500
reply-to:     therese <tleung@wellesley.edu>
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from:         therese <tleung@wellesley.edu>
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hey all!
i don't know if the boston concert review has en posted yet (i'm on digest)t)
but i'd thought i'd throw in my own personal review anyway! :)

opening act: jen tryon...she was pretty good, funny little stories in
between songs.

the girls came on a introduced a representative from wand, the political l
grassroots organization the girls were sponsoring for this benefit concert.
wand sounds like a great, diverse group. (if anyone has more info on wand,
i'd love to get my hands on it and help out in any way..email me please).

fashion update: emily (cute new haircut!) was wearing a green shirt,
blackish pants, amy was wearing a gray, striped oxford and gray pants. both
girls looked good and energetic (maybe amy a little more energetic than em)

the set list was already posted! (thanks to that listee)
the songs rocked out. i almost passed out when i heard "let it be me"
and then "romeo and juliet". god. amy was in top form. dancing and smilin'
and emily was just the geetar queen! she did a coupla geetar solos that
were impromptu and funky and soooo good. she amazes me as a musician.
overall, the girls had a great show. great setlist. great energy level.

i was up in the balcony and me and my friends had 2 huge-bannerish signs
that said, "rock the casbah, amy" (in reference to amy's fave group "the
clash", if anyone understands this, i love you, cuz no else got the
significance...except fran egan!) and then another sign that said, "can we
sing with y'all". but we were trying to hang our signs from the mezzanine
area and the orpheum staff got all pissy at us cuz we were out of our seats
so eventually we gave up and sat back down only to be told we weren't
supposed to dance! well f*ck that, i said! i ran to the aisle and danced by
butt off and then when everyone else started to get into the music, we got
to dance in front of our seats. and did we dance!! if anyone was up in the
balcony, i was the chick who couldnt sit down (amy side) and going psycho
at every song!i was also the chick who screamed at the end, when amy chose
those two girls in the front row to sing with them, i belted, "i wanna sing
with you too!!!!"  :) the orpheum staff guy saw me and my friends jamming to
the music and started laughing at us cuz were so intense! whoooooo!

great concert. i wish every listee could have gone. :)

therese :)


    you set up your place in my thoughts
          moved in and made my thinking crowded
        now we're out with the barking dogs
    my heart the red sun, your heart the moon clouded  -emily saliers

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 00:59:27 est
reply-to:     memememi <memememi@aol.com>
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this is probably a waste of bandwidth, but i thought that perhaps if someone
has the mystery solo emily tape and would love to make someone's christmas a
happy one, i'd love to hear from that someone =)

i've been in a total emily mood lately and would love to try and find this
tape.  i have lots to trade, if you're interested =)

thanks!!!
lisa

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 01:06:35 est
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subject:      northern california dates (help!)
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i'm sending this out as a kind of last minute plea to see if anyone knows
anything more about the upcoming northern california dates.  i have not seen
anything about them on websites, the list, or in the papers...

...here's the thing.  i'm leaving for new mexico on friday, and will not be
back until the 28th or 29th.  my suspicion is that they will go on sale
sometime while i am away <sob>...if they don't go on sale before i leave, is
their any kind soul who would be willing to get them for me?  i was hoping to
go to all three shows...

crossing my fingers,
shelley

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 03:26:27 -0500
reply-to:     marival danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
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subject:      re: la tickets?
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okay is la the same thing as universal city?  if so i got my ticket by
calling the universal/ticketmaster line.  it's on the universal webpage.
oh, this is the concert thatis supposed to be on jan 30 at universal
ampitheater.  they went on sale sunday at 1pm.  does this help any?

marivel (vel not val)

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 05:08:54 est
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yup!  you heard it here first!  ruthie (roadtripper extraordinaire) has struck
again...this time...boston!!!

so marg and i pull up in boston at around ~3ish (?) and after getting lost we
just happen to stumble upon the theater!  jerry kept coming out looking for
his wife...it was funny when marg realized that that was the woman that she
decked with the door...anyway...so we're standing there with like ten people
or so (hey guys!) and at about 6:30 is this big yellow taxi pulls up...so
everyone was like...wouldn't that be funny if that was them....and sure enough
dave ellison, sara lee, and our ladies of indigo step out.  amy and emily
looked fabulous and they were all smiles.  but dave was like..."we're late for
the soundcheck..." and brushed right by us...:~~~~~  oh well...we got huge
grins from the girls and that was all that mattered.

so....we get to our seats (omg...have i been pampered!) and there was a group
of us sitting together...never again will lawn seats be an option when you can
sit up front and sing and talk with everyone!  so our friend sculli comes out
adn we all start her fan club...woo hoo!  she passed a note on to the girls
from chloe and dawn-michelle (happy birthday!!!) and played us some music...

ok enough babble!  jen trynin (sp?) opened and she totally rawked!  but enough
of that...the girls...

both were fab...we held up our sign that said "we made it from jersey" and
emily grinned and said..."we made it from jersey" and just giggled some more!
i knew it was worth staying up til 2 in the morning the night before to make
it and the "thanx yall" t-shirt...but more about that later!

so they're singing and we're singing and they're singing and we're
singing...you get the picture...i don't have the setlist...we couldn't find it
on the way home but it's prob in marg's coat so look out for it soon....emily
had some fantastic solos and they did a new one by amy (senioriata???)
anyway...it was beautiful.

so somewhere in the middle someone gave them some cookies ;) and emily gave
some of her picks....so when amy asked what type of cookies they were and then
answered..."they're amy's cookies" em was like..."i give away my picks and amy
gets the cookies???"  lol...it was hysterical!  nuther funny part was when
emily got the cords wrong to hammer and nail (?) and said...just kidding...i
fucked up the cords yall...or something to that effect!  :d

emily kept looking at me and smiling and then suddenly...late in the
show...amy noticed my thanx yall shirt and laughed...so we sang the entire
song together...don't even ask me what it was...we're talking major eye
contact.... and every few words she'd just laugh...and then look right back at
me and giggle some more...and...welll you get the picture!

ok...leeds...so we all got together and for the ulali part...we sang!  heheheh
we sounded sooo good...it was great.  then these two girls got to get up and
sing closer to fine...and they asked which song they were going to
sing...lol...oh well...

so we hung out til like...12 and then finally admitted to ourselves that we
weren't going to be able to meet the girls again...and we should leave before
the frost bite turns to gangreen<i kant spell at 5 in the morning!>...they
somehow managed to ditch us and sneak out...oh welll...we did have another
meeting of the sculli fan club...pictures and signings and all...it was great!
ack!  no pix from the show tho...security caught us and took the film!!!
:~~~~~~~  jerry was still looking a bit confused...must have lost his wife
again...lol

ok so this is really long...i'll leave more room for others to talk...the show
was great...and it only took us four hours to get back to nj!

oh well...it was great meeting yall...see ya in nyc in january...(sculli said
that it hasn't been booked yet but it will be before the west coast tour!!!)

hugz kisses and indigo dreams....

ruthie <-- who got liz**** a bumper sticker!!!  woo hoo!

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 08:37:49 est
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did anyone happen to tape this show?
i attempted to but when i flipped my tape before gotm the recording button
didn't stay down:(
i did get the first part and the encore, though.
great show!
rena

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 09:31:44 est
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greetings to all in the land of indigo!

well, last night had to be one of the most
excellent ig shows i have seen!  amy and
emily were very energetic and seemed really
excited, considering they just flew in from
denver that day!  emily is really busting out
with her guitar solos and experimentation,
and amy with her soc's.  are we going to
see a amy ray 'spoken word'  with and
emily saliers 'rockin' guitar solo' cd soon?

anyway, i was wondering if anyone booted this
awesome show, and if so, would you be intersted
in trading for it, or setting up a tree?  let me know!

take care and peace!

-deb

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 10:12:43 -0500
reply-to:     nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
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subject:      in the bleak mid-winter
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around the time of the n*i*s release, the igs made an appearance on the
arts & entertainment channel's show 'a&e revue.'(they performed 'hammer &
a nail.') what the channel did was to also tape them perfoming a song for
their christmas show (picture a poinsettia in front of the a&e revue'
logo) and they sang "in the bleak mid-winter." emily intro'd the song by
saying it was one of her mother's favorite hymns and they were sending the
song out to their parents.

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 07:12:51 -0800
reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      christmas/holiday/seasonal recording
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i know i am chiming in a little late here, but didnt check my
e-mail much this weekend...

i am not a christian (pagan), but i do give enough credit to ig
to know how diverse their audience is, as well as giving due to
the diversity of their faiths (ig's and the audience's).  i do
have a number of specifically christmas albums, and some which
are much more seasonal.  it matters as much to me to hear a song
done well.  i respect people who are strong in their respective
faiths, and i dont htink one has to be of that faith to enjoy
the music.  for example, the burns sisters have an album called
tradition which combines original songs, some "standard" christmas
tunes, a couple of hannukah songs, and jsut overall some good music
and strong performances.  windham hill has a series of celtic
christmas releases which are much more seasonal than concentrating
on "standard" christmas tunes. my favorite parody of christmas
is the venus envy album, "i'll be a homo for christmas".

my point is this....it is easy to dismiss the notion of a christmas
album because we dont all share that faith.  we dont have to.  we
know how creative ig can be in their covers, and i'd bet they could,
if they wantd, come up with some seasonal songs which would touch us
which wouldnt be "faith heavy".  but even if they did write or
creat an album of "faith heavy" songs, what's the harm in that?
what's the harm in singing what you believe?  are we really so
rigid in our "this is my world, dammit" mentalities that we couldnt
respect an album that might have a religious flavor?  no one would
force you to buy it if you didnt want to hear it.

personally, i'd be curious to see how they would approach a
project like this if they ever chose to undertake it.

done ranting...

                          _________
amy p.                    \       /     who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
the original photo monk      \ /                --patty larkin
                http://www.crl.com/~pegasus

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 10:34:21 -0400
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ahhh! that song is so beautiful...when i was in highschool a choral
group that i was in performed that tune.. :) it's one of my favorites.
makes me cry!

-bethany ;)

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 10:31:49 -0500
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i am looking for a schedule of indigo girl concerts.  please send all
info to yaffchuk@aol.com

yaffa landis
90 fuller st., apt. #5
brookline, ma 02146

yaffa landis
consultant, software quality partners

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 07:52:01 -0800
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hey folks~

        for those of you who haven't played double jeopardy yet, i am
extending the deadline until tommorrow, tuesday, december 16th, at noon
(cst).  please reply by private email.  good luck!

*categories*   politics, geography, lyrics, the band, ig list

politics-

$200    environmental/cultural organization formed by a&e?

$400    according to amy, of a&e, most likely to run for political office?

$600    name of the indigenous rebels in chiapas, mexico?

geography-

$200    ig's home base?

$400    "if you forget my face, i'll never call your name again"? - amy

$600    ig's have played the glastonbury festival in this country?

lyrics-

$200    he/she/it said, "don't let go, just plant the seeds and watch them
grow"?

$400    "it shines like sugar on your lips"?

$600    appropriate audience response to, "pretty pretenders and negligent
vendors, aren't we precious inside ..."?

the band-

$200    ig's end nearly every concert with this song?

$400    the girls will soon be touring this down-under continent?

$600    ig's loaned her sara lee and her drummer played with the girls?

ig list-

$200    active list manager?

$400    who is this ma binky anyway? (real or screen name)

$600    amy's biggest gripe about the list?


da-da-da-da dat's all folks!

i       tony doolittle - houston, texas, usa            g
n                                                       i
d       not content to bow and bend to the whims        r
i       of culture that swoop like vultures eating      l
g       us away to our extinction -  emily saliers      s
o

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 11:50:21 est
reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      back alleys and baigl bashes in boston
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dig the alliteration, touch it, love it!

some ig listers are really nice, like alanna, and just send set lists. but i
can't help myself! i have to add commentary....last night's show was worthy of
at least a dell penguin paperback but i'm gonna hold back because some of youse
are taking final exams right now (don't read this, go study!)

anyhoo,

the details of the baigl party will just bore the rest of you to tears and stir
up those lingering feelings of resentment over the profundity of new england
concerts this year...so i'll keep it to three short comments: great friends,
great music, great contortions. i signed the release form so i can't say
anything else. thanks for the song, y'all and making me blush more than i do in
church ;-)

the crapper part of the night was trying to find parking near the orpheum. i
got goin the wrong way down this really dark alley and started trying to recall
all my ninja moves from self defense class while faye cooed in my ear "its okay
susie, it's okay". i was shitting nickels, friends...cause i lead sammy saturn
down the alley, couldn't turn around, and here comes a huge car lumbering
towards me. it was my very own episode of shaft. it took a 67 point turn to get
out! but anything for amy and emily right?

the show! ahhh, the marvelous show! it was like a dream, only it wasn't. i was
happy and smily in my really good seat, and i was already to hang out alone for
the night, but lo and behold lister emaizen sittin right behind me! i let her
in front of me tho cause i'm a tall drinkawater and she couldn't see over me.
anyways, three hits! what a great opener! amy was really in rare form last
night... she _is_ a rock star now, btw. she was really smily and happy
throughout the show. the cookie excanage was priceless ! they gave some babe in
the front a couple of picks for a bag of homemade cookies! if i knew it was
that easy, i'd have stayed in the girl scouts!

especially riveting versions of my personal favorite, shed your skin, and
scooter boys...amy did a cool soc-a-majingy about riding in a car...in the
everglades...and worrying about the gray in her hair...and the driver was her
brother! no her sister! no her brother! okay, i guess ya had to be there, but
it was asskickin....

no fashion report. hate those. oh, except to say that last night emily was
wearing my grampa's sears and roebuck work pants, circa 1957! how'd ya get em
off grampy, em? i kept wonderin. they were dead on his pants, y'all. swear it.

ummm, the rare live playing of "let it be me". that was cool, even tho libm is
way too crunchyhappyfeely for me ;) devilspawn  dave ellison was great on
harmonica during chickenman,  but my resident harmonica expert faye told me he
sucked. hm. and of course all the singalongs which would really annoy me
(imagine being at work and having every line you say repeated back to you? ok
it's not the same thing but just imagine it) really made em and aim smile.

at the end of the show, the giggleboxes in front of me and em got invited up to
sing and they were like soooo kewl and like the one girly thought she was
bowzer on shanana and kept rolling up her sleeves on her tshirt during ctf.
they were cute, really. just not me and em, that was the problem!!!

the show was tight, just long enough, and relaxed. just like a good.....bowl of
popcorn.

thansk for the memories!

xo, sus

ps deb bulla queen of the universe i love you!!! after hitting 9,657 indigo
girls shows i finally got a pick! yesss
pss carolyn smacks ;)

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 10:58:47 -0600
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from:         joy b <blaze@voyageronline.net>
subject:      re: in the bleak mid-winter
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>***********************************************
> >a politically correct christmas...
> >***********************************************
> >
> >twas the night before christmas, and santa was a wreck.
> >how to live in a world that's politically correct?
> >
> >his workers no longer would answer to "elves."
> >"vertically challenged," they kept calling themselves;
> >
> >and labor conditions at the north pole
> >were alleged by the unions to stifle the soul.
> >
> >the reindeer had vanished, without much propriety,
> >released to the wilds by the humane society.
> >
> >and equal employment had made it quite clear
> >that santa had better not use just reindeer.
> >
> >so dancer and donner, comet and cupid,
> >were replaced by four pigs, and you know that looked stupid!
> >
> >the runners had all been removed from his sleigh;
> >the ruts were termed dangerous by the epa.
> >
> >and people had started to call for the cops
> >when they heard sled noises on their rooftops.
> >
> >smoke from his pipe had workers quite frightened.
> >his fur-trimmed suit was called, "unenlightened."
> >
> >and to show you the strangeness of life's ebbs and flows,
> >rudolph was suing over use of his nose.
> >
> >he had gone on geraldo, in front of the nation,
> >demanding millions in overdue compensation.
> >
> >so, half of the reindeer were gone and his wife,
> >who suddenly said she'd enough of this life,
> >joined a self-help group, packed, left in a whiz,
> >demanding from now on her title was ms.
> >
> >and as for the gifts, he'd never had a notion
> >that making a choice could cause so much commotion.
> >
> >nothing of leather, nothing of fur,
> >which meant nothing for him, and nothing for her.
> >
> >nothing that might be construed to pollute.
> >nothing to aim, nothing to shoot.
> >
> >nothing that clamored or made lots of noise.
> >nothing just for the girls, or just for the boys.
> >
> >nothing that claimed to be gender specific,
> >nothing that's warlike, or non-pacifistic.
> >
> >no candy or sweets - they were bad for the tooth
> >nothing that seemed to embellish a truth.
> >
> >and fairy tales, while not yet forbidden,
> >were like ken and barbie, better off hidden.
> >
> >they raised the hackles of those psychological,
> >who claimed the only good gift was ecological.
> >
> >no baseball, no football, someone could get hurt;
> >besides, playing sports exposed kids to dirt.
> >
> >dolls were said to be sexist, and should be passe,
> >nintendo would rot your entire brain away.
> >
> >so santa just stood there, disheveled, perplexed;
> >he just could not figure out what to do next.
> >
> >he tried to be merry, he tried to be gay,
> >but you've got to be careful with that word today.
> >
> >his sack was quite empty, limp to the ground;
> >nothing acceptable was to be found.
> >
> >something special was needed, a gift that he might
> >give to all, without angering the left or the right.
> >
> >a gift that would satisfy, with no indecision,
> >each group of people, every religion;
> >
> >every ethnicity, every skin hue;
> >everyone, everywhere - even you.
> >
> >so here is that gift, it's priced beyond worth -
> >"may you and your loved ones enjoy peace on earth."
> >

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 11:48:03 -0500
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from:         sarah pohuly <pohulys@juno.com>
subject:      christmas album

when i read what you wrote about the christmas thing, i had to laugh.
could you imagine amy singing hark the harold angel sing

sarah

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 11:49:05 est
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hey guys!  i got all of these e mails telling me that it was sulli
not...sculli!  i don't even know what i typed in last night (this morning) it
was soooo late and whatever!

sorry sulli!

love

ruthie

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 12:08:24 -0500
reply-to:     lauree shampine <shampine@ll.mit.edu>
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from:         lauree shampine <shampine@ll.mit.edu>
subject:      orpheum show (12/15)

from where i was sitting (sixth row, center), ig
(particularly amy) seemed kind of worn out...which was
good in a weird sort of way.  the show had a kind of
pre-sots feel to it...you know, before the current era
in which amy needs to be smiling every second of a show
when she isn't singing.  they seemed a little more human
up there last night.

set list winners:
  three hits
  secure yourself
  thin line
  r&j

set list losers:
  chickenman - the quintessential amy song evolved beyond
               all recognition

concert experience winners:
   the crowd was standing and dancing for the whole show.

concert experience losers:
   the over-stimulated shriekers behind me.  yes, we know you
   really, really, really love amy, and i'm sure she just loves
   the hell out of you, too.  now would you shut up about it
   before my skull splits in two.

>the girls came on a introduced a representative from wand, the political l
>grassroots organization the girls were sponsoring for this benefit concert.
>wand sounds like a great, diverse group. (if anyone has more info on wand,
>i'd love to get my hands on it and help out in any way..email me please).

they're starting to ask fans to sign on to issues which have complex
policy and economic implications, and i think that the right way to
do it is to say that these are issues which we think are important and
here is our position on them and why.  now you all get educated and
form your own opinions because it's important.  there's an awful lot
of signing of cards without thinking at these shows...an awful lot
of letting a&e do the thinking for everybody.

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 12:18:37 -0500
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from:         lynda <lynda@csg-soft.com>
subject:      re: back alleys and baigl bashes in boston
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> especially riveting versions of my personal favorite, shed your skin, and
> scooter boys...amy did a cool soc-a-majingy about riding in a car...in the
> everglades...and worrying about the gray in her hair...and the driver was her
> brother! no her sister! no her brother! okay, i guess ya had to be there, but
> it was asskickin....
no it was her mother, no her father, shut up cybil!!!
did anyone else get the feeling amy was saying to herself "ok amy now
your stuck in this loop...how are you going to stop and still make some
kind of since"


> no fashion report. hate those. oh, except to say that last night emily was
> wearing my grampa's sears and roebuck work pants, circa 1957! how'd ya get em
> off grampy, em? i kept wonderin. they were dead on his pants, y'all. swear it.
thanks sus...i spit water all over my keyboard here...i have to agree,
but they were my gradpa's pants!!!

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 12:11:56 -0500
reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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from:         deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
subject:      re: billy pilgrim breakup, caroline aiken
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jrsmmbj <jrsmmbj@aol.com> wrote:
>please don't flame me...but i heard that billy pilgrim is breaking up...any
>fans have any news on this....thanks josh

looks like it's true.  they aren't listed on the atlantic site any more, and
their fan web page says they are going their separate ways.  see
<http://www-personal.umich.edu/~roelbj/pilgrim/main.html> for the news.
bookmark it (if you don't already have my music links bookmarked) to keep up
with them,  and presumably, their solo careers.

what a shame, i like them so much better as a duo than i like either
separately.

=-=-=-=

mel south <melsouth1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>and for some nigc - i just saw caroline aiken tonight at eddie's attic
>and that woman & her music stimulates the heck outta me. she can get
>down, sweet talk, belt blues, rock on, and rawk like nobody's business!

yes, and it's too bad she doesn't do much of that on the new cd (what is it
with atlanta guitar goddesses playing the piano these days?!)!

=-=-=-=

i'm copying this to the atlanta artists list, just in case there might be some
folks on there that aren't on or can't keep up with the ig list.  i wish more
people would make use of that list, there's vitually no traffic on it
(especially with the new list for michelle malone)!  to subscribe, send the
message "subscribe atlartists" to majordomo@monsterbit.com.  follow-up
discussion about billy pilgrim or caroline aiken should be directed to the
atlartists list, not the indigo-girls list.

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reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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darren glass <glassd@math.upenn.edu> wrote:
>just as a note to the list, so far i've gotten two messgaes of support and
>two messages disagreeing with me (i haven't gotten a new digest yet...)
>but neither of these people has been able to explain to me why they're
>intriguing in the sense that i mean intriguing.  and i guess that's the
>key issue, is a disagreement on what it means to be intriguing...

well, i have to say that i was with you, darren, until i looked up
"intriguing" at webster's <http://www.m-w.com>:

    to arouse the interest, desire, or curiosity of

i have to say that this year, ig are by far the most intriguing celebrities
for me!  at least with respect to the "interest" part, and yeah, okay, maybe a
smidgen of desire <g>, though not curiosity, which is what i generally think
of when i hear the word "intriguing."

=-=-=-=

shufa nasser <shuffa@yahoo.com> wrote:

>if the indigo girls ever decided to capitalise on christmas like all
>the other commercial pieces of @#$% out there,i probably would change
>loyalties for good.what would they sing,rudolph the red nosed raindeer
>had a very shiny nose?

jane siberry <http://www.sheeba.ca> just released a double-cd of seasonal
songs, with something for everyone (celebrations of christmas, hanukkah,
solstice), lots of traditional songs (including the song ig did on a&e, "in
the bleak mid-winter"), some original songs... it sound very much like the
selection many on this list (including me) would like to see ig do.  i think
it would be a perfect fit for them, given the huge influence that choir
singing ha had on them... so many of those favorite moments people have listed
can be chalked up to their harmonies, which are unique to popular music but
common in hymns.

=-=-=-=
resa m <resa@ipeg.com> wrote:
>does anyone else have the get together single with
>this little holiday greetings clip?

yes, and it took me quite a while to track down, i think it's a pretty rare
promo.

=-=-=-=

bonnemot <bonnemot@aol.com> wrote:
>hey everybody, here's a cover question for ya - does anybody else think the
>ig's outperform the original artist on every single cover they do?

i think both rod stewart and everything but the girl do a better "i don't
wanna talk about it."

=-=-=-=
memememi <memememi@aol.com> wrote:
>alas, i was not at this show, but lauren, who is not on the list right now,
>asked that i post this review to the list for her.
>
>again, i am *not* the person who was at the show, or who wrote this review.
>it was lauren.  any comments, etc., will be forwarded to her.

but lisa, you didn't include her address! :-)

>"tried to be true" - thrilled to hear it.  the performance was great.  still
>hard for me that she lifted it from pete townshend and the who.

does anyone know what lauren is referring to in the above?

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okay, folks, the umbc tapes and labels have all been mailed out to the
branches, so if you'd like a copy of the umbc show in baltimore, md (a full
description is in the message included below), please make arrangements with
the person associated with your birthday month.  sherlyn is going to be the
australian branch, and claudine the uk branch, but if there are others outside
the us who want the tape, i'm hopeful that you'll be able to come to a
satisfactory arrangement with the person associated with your birthday month.
the only stipulation i have is that *no one* can make a profit or *require* a
trade for these tapes -- anyone should be able to get them by sending blanks
and an sase, though it would be nice to arrange a trade if you can.  i've
gotten great feedback from the branches that have listened to it so far; it
really was a great show!

here are the umbc branches:

jan    alison <alisont@netcom.com>
feb    sasha <indigofrk@aol.com>
mar    alexandra <aaogilvie@aol.com>
apr    jude <hunterj1@aol.com>
may    bonnie <bonster@u.washington.edu>
jun    toye <tgillman@ruralcom.net>
jul    lisa <lmayne@u.washington.edu>
aug    traci <traci_loth@lieberman.com>
sep    resa <resa@ipeg.com>
oct   sandy <mgsb@aol.com>
nov   chris <guinione@aol.com>
dec    pam <mnoelm@aol.com>
au    sherlyn <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
uk    claudine <claudine@cableinet.co.uk>

branches should use the following addresses for overflow; if you receive more
requests than you can handle (and please take care of at least the 10 you've
committed to), please refer those folks to overflow branches as follows:
    jan-apr    melissa <mismonk@aol.com>
    may-aug    carrie <chamblen@nmsu.edu>
    sep-dec    susan <scorpio7@sagami.or.jp>

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from: deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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date: wednesday, november 26, 1997 10:48 am
subject: umbc boot tree announcement


>as witnessed by the number of people at the umbc show who were clamoring
>for a boot of it, this show was excellent!  it has a great set list (good mix
>of older and newer material), and an unbelievably enthusiastic audience that
>kept a&e smiling all night.  i've remastered it onto one 110 minute tape,
>and i think it sounds great (especially for a gym!) -- i can even hear some
>of a&e's comments that i *couldn't* hear at the show!
>
>here's the set list:
>
>galileo
>shame on you
>tangled up in blue
>cut it out / down by the river - this medley is too good for words
>    (the incredibly passionate "cut it out" that everyone's wanted!)
>get out the map
>shed your skin
>you and me of the 10,000 wars
>reunion
>least complicated
>scooter boys - excellent, with an amy soc
>winthrop
>romeo and juliet
>power of two
>chickenman
>virginia woolf
>can't find my way home (w/caroline aiken)
>joking
>tried to be true
>closer to fine  (w/caroline aiken)
>
>if you're interested in being a branch, and you understand how tape trees
>work (sorry, i don't have time to respond to requests for info), and you have
>adequate resources to make *good* copies in a timely fashion, please reply to
>this privately.  be sure that the word "umbc" is in your subject so my filter
>will catch it.  please don't volunteer to be a branch if you think the coming
>holidays will hinder your ability to make copies efficiently.
>
>i'll send a note to the list when i have enough branches.  i will notify you
>*only* if you are selected as a branch.  if you are not selected as a branch,
>watch for an announcement for leaves when i've sent all the tapes to the
>branches.
>
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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 09:45:23 pst
reply-to:     guitar goddess <juliestar@hotmail.com>
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from:         guitar goddess <juliestar@hotmail.com>
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la la laaaa!! hello maggots! here is what i figured out. of course they
are so very wrong, but fiddle with them as you will:

no sides by kaia wilson

f9 000233
c9 023033
g9 230033

then as she sings "but you never told me you had gone.." it goes
something like:

c 33001x
? 55003x
? 77005x
? 87xxxxx

umm..yeah. like that. try it and gimme some feedback, ok?

   o
(o)==#
  >>

(guitar grrl copyright k8 grant, 1997)
-l-

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 15:03:40 -0500
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standing and dancing and singing.....
i've never heard an ig audience sing this loud or in such great synch
before.  from the high altitude where we were sitting - balcony w - a &
e's singing was all but completely drowned out quite a few times by the
audience singing- (no, not just when they stop to let us sing).  (some of
this might have been a not-so-great sound system at the orpheum and
how far back our seats were) the guy i went with and i got into a huge
'debate' on the way home about whether this was good - i loved it -
thought it felt more like a huge sing-along with a & e than a concert. my
friend said it spoiled it for him because he wanted to hear the girls-- not
the fans of the girls.
i know am & em like us to sing but -----was----this too much ?  help us
settle this debate !!
thanks
jayne

>>> lauree shampine <shampine@ll.mit.edu> 12/15/97 12:08pm >>>
concert experience winners:
   the crowd was standing and dancing for the whole show.

concert experience losers:
   the over-stimulated shriekers behind me.  yes, we know you
   really, really, really love amy, and i'm sure she just loves
   the hell out of you, too.  now would you shut up about it
   before my skull splits in two.

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 15:23:55 est
reply-to:     carol & sarah <chickenwomyn@hotmail.com>
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from:         carol & sarah <chickenwomyn@hotmail.com>
subject:      more fave moments
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i found a few more fave moments...

in ctf, after the verse about school, there is a little staccato "woo"
i just get a little kick out of it.

an em moment:  in reunion, when emily comes in all by herself and she
does that growly. grumbly thing.
garsh thats a great em moment for me.

love,
  carol

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hey y'all!
first i would like to say how much i envy those going to the florida
show tomorrow--it's my birthday that day so everyone party hard at
the concert and sing loud with the ig for me! i would like to ditch
school but that's kinda impossible.  okay, i know a lot of people
have asked this question but who knows the fish and snowflake story
and how can i get in touch with them?!  i am heading to seattle--one
month later and i could have seen the girls in concert again--in a
few days and i know my sister will ask what it means!  i would like
to have some kind of story, and i am not creative enough to invent one
on my own!  so if you can help me out i would love to hear from you!

sorry for the rambling.

peace, love, and indigo,
becca

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 16:26:42 -0500
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um are folks getting my mail ive wrote like 3 or 4 folks off list and have
not got any answers back  i wrote the person who tapeed a extra copy of
the lilith fair twice (once when the post first came through and once 3
days ago again) and have not recieved a response
also wrote about the ann arbor boot and no response either
i need these 2 things so if anyone has them please write me off list

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 15:15:28 -0600
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i sent an e-mail to austin city limits regarding when the ig show will
air. i got this response:\

when will the new season of austin city limits begin?
season 23 premieres january 31, 1998, on pbs with junior brown and
robbie fulks. other programs will include patty loveless and collin raye
(2/7/98), marcia ball, tracy nelson and irma thomas (2/14/98), the
manhattan transfer with asleep at the wheel and ricky skaggs (2/21/98)

and the indigo girls with special guests vonda shepard, freedy johnston
and mark eitzel followed by kim richey (2/28/98).

march programs will include loretta lynn (3/7/98), nanci griffith with
the crickets (3/14/98), hal ketchum and terry allen (3/21/98) and a
celebration of townes van zandt (3/28/98). april listings are to be
announced. please check back at this url in january and contact your
local pbs station or local tv listings for dates and times in your area.


i know it's a ways off, but thought y'all might want to mark your
calendars.

peace,

dan perkins
austin, texas

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 08:47:28 aes
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can i just share something great with y'all? last week i turned up at my
folk's place to find my brother and sister (the one's i've mentioned before
who turn into maniacs at the sheer mention of the canberra show next march)
begging me to listen to them play something for me.

'sure' said i. 'why not?'

now my brother just got a drum kit and i was feeling a bit dubious. a drum
kit in a little 3 bdr house is a scary thought.

however, my sister (15) picked up her guitar, my brother (18) sat behind
the drums and the next thing i knew they were launching into a totally cool
rendition of tried to be true!!!! i was blown away. they were both grinning
at me like fools, trying to sing with big smiles, i joined in and soon my
parents were standing, unbeknownst to us, at the door beaming at their
'clever' children.

i'm always proud that i got them into ig music but at that moment i could
have just burst. :-) do you think amy and em would be proud too?

helen

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just some thoughts about last night in boston from a very longtime lurker on
this list (and one of the real "oldsters," at 49).  first i want to know if amy
and emily bring sub-normal temperatures with them to boston.  the pay per view
event at great woods was way colder than it should have been, and last night
walking up tremont past the boston commons one was in danger of losing ears and
noses to the bitter cold wind!  did they drag the wind in from denver?  sure
could have used some southern warmth waiting outside, tho at least the front of
the orpheum was out of the direct wind, after they threw us out of the outer
lobby.  amy certainly did not take off her shoes the way she did at great woods
this summer!

we were really surprised that jerry and sara were there.  it had been
advertised on the orpheum site and in globe ads as "acoustic duo," and so we
were expecting something like unh, when it was just the two of them.  then i
was sure i saw jerry go in the doors, and the sound check that leaked out when
the doors were opened certainly didn't sound simply acoustic...and there were
his drums on the stage, etc.  orpheum must not have a real piano???  though the
wonderful advantage of a keyboard was being able to watch emily's hands and
arms while seeing her face on leeds.

the setlist has been posted, and people have already started dissecting emily's
pants (gray twill work pants was our conclusion).  sure looked to us like amy
was wearing the same thing, only in tan...

and that was one hell of a show to so unexpectedly round out the year!  april
(unh), june (great woods), and now december (orpheum)...not bad for living 2
hours north of boston in the middle of scenic rural new hampshire, too far to
make it to one of the weeknight concerts in the fall in new england, alas...we
thought we had terrible seats, last row of the orchestra...till we discovered
we could sit up on the partition behind us, putting us short people up to where
we could see above all the dancing.  binoculars turned 38 rows back into the
equivalent of completely unobstructed 6th or 7th row.  the sound was fine in
that spot; the crowd never drowned out amy & emily.  and it was a show to see
and hear!  celia (my partner of 16+ years; yes, folks, when you get to be our
age it can last that long and still be strong) had her fingers crossed for
romeo and juliet...and got her _long-time_ wish.  for all the shows we've seen
(starting in manchester, nh, in 1990, when they toured with joan baez) the
scooter boys soc was the first we have heard.  i'm not sure what alanna is
calling an soc in chickenman; it was _very_ long, with lots of solos, and lots
of coming back to the song itself at different points, but nothing we would
call an soc, unlike the visit to the everglades in scooter boys.

i really liked the greater mix of old and new; made the show more unexpected.
only 6 songs out of 19 from sots, compared to 11 out of 20 at great woods, and
9 out of 20 at unh (where they also did chiapas bound).  i don't feel like this
is an album-specific tour anymore, it's just them having a wonderful time with
all their music.  and we get to be there for it!

it was different without don't give that girl a gun and cut it out.  i think
amy is at a different place now, showing it with romeo and juliet and with her
new song.  i am really glad we had the chance to see these different versions
of music with amy passion.  and good lord is emily ripping on the electric
guitar!!!

they both looked great...as an oldster i've been watching them mature, and they
are both aging mighty fine.  i laughed at amy's reference to gray hair in the
soc...she's getting up to the age you really can't pretend you don't have any.
i used to lie to myself at that age...no, they weren't all gray, most of them
were just sun-bleached...yeah, right, look at me now!  though i did find it
hysterical when i got carded to get a terrible budweiser...the battered old
wool hat may have hidden the tasteful gray streaks, but the lighting wasn't
_that_ bad!!!

perhaps we are getting old, or spoiled.  we couldn't believe the amount of
smoke.  at one point celia asked me if they were running a dry ice machine on
the stage.  nh has some pretty tough rules about smoking in public places, so
we don't run into that much.  we're at the age we are going to too many
funerals of friends dying from lung cancer...seeing so many smoking made us
very sad.  and we saw a new height of incredible rudeness.  anyone sitting in
the back of the orchestra on emily's side (we were on amy's) won't want to hear
this.  there was a huge opening in the ceiling there, up to the mezzanine, and
we got to watch two young women up above who smoked more than one cigarette
calmly flick their ashes right down onto the people below.  it was stunning.
were they completely oblivious, or completely narcissistic?  who would do that
to other people?????  we're both psychologists, celia a therapist, me a
professor...we were shocked.  guess those two don't think the indigo girls'
messages about caring about other people apply to them...

but all in all it was a rocking good time, and the fact i have written no exams
today, nor graded any term papers because i am completely exhausted just means
i have to work my butt off tomorrow and the rest of the week...it was more than
worth it.  here's to next summer (or sooner?), maybe one last hit before the
new album???  if you've read this far, those of you who are waiting to see
them, the wait just makes it all the better!

now, those of you who are in finals week...go study!!!!

wendy palmquist

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 14:43:25 pst
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hi folks-

i don't recall seeing this anywhere yet...

you can see michelle malone playing "blue suede" & "the edge" in
realplayer from a video (by hillary meister) taken at eddie's attic
7-24-97 for mm's cd release party for btdm.

the cool thing is that you don't even have to have realplayer installed
(tho i do), because it connects you to a web site that streams it in for
you!! (both the sound & video are excellent quality for streaming video,
imho - tho with lots of folks all trying to get it simultaneously... it
might be a different story!)

you can connect at - y'all (cute, huh?):

     http://www.yall.com/featured/decibel1.html

     (the page says: "updated every friday)

:o)
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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 18:31:14 -0500
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>> >i especially like it on kid fears when the guy  (forgot his name) is dinging
>> >the chorus and amy in the background sings "from the-he-he years"  such
>> >emotion!!!
>>
>> yeah, i always kinda liked *that guy* too..


me three.
i've always had this little insane fantasy that when i go to an
indigo girls show, he'll show up and sing! and since i'm in
atlanta, there's actually a chance that it *could* happen.

but so far i've been to two ig shows, and mike has yet to appear
at one. and i went to the rem show at the omni a while back,
but the girls *weren't* there. **sob!!!*

hey, a gal's gotta dream ...

cathy

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 15:32:30 -0800
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this one's for you, cindy mckenzie ( and yer sister too ) who tol' me "you
go girl!" and then elaborated further thet that meant i was to "go" to my
key board and write more ig x-mas parodies...
ummm, to the rest of you: any complaints from fellow listees should be
directed at her:-)
i kid thee...
i fully accept any boo-ing, hissing + flamage that may result from this next
effort, as entirely mine:-)
imagine if you will... a cold dark night at the north pole. there we find a
wee but cozy house, set deep in a drift of blowing snow. our voyueristic
gaze makes it's way to a candle brightened window, and inside... music
begins to play, and....emily wanders into our line of vision dressed as...
as santa!!! she pauses by stacks and stacks of letters all with the return
address of some slightly demented woman who just wants more more more
presents....
achem... i plead not guilty, yer honour...
( to the tune of...what else?... burn all the letters ).

burn all the letters
i am sorry that you set your sights, on the things i read,
buy yer own gifts for yer husband and hide them under the bed...
once upon a time your words were few and fleeting
nothing much was said profound
you wanted this and that for christmas gifts
but now your greedy demandings abound
<santa emily turns to her elves here...don't amy make a cute one??> :-)
burn all her letters (there are over a thousand )
fer gawd's sake unplug the phone ( and rudolph get me a call display )
burn all the letters ( she says she hasn't been naughty )
if she knocks tell her i'm not home ( says she's only been nice )
burn all the letters stuff them on the hot coals
reindeer are hearty creatures but that many gifts they just never could pull...
you know reindeer have their dignity
but lady they got their quirks
if i asked them to pull your mile high load i'm sure that i could get hurt
to ease my pain i've balm and asprin
a compress stems most bleeding
but i'd rather they not think to bite the hand that does the feeding...
burn all her letters ( there are over a thousand )
fer gawd's sake unplug the phone ( and please throw this stupid beeper away )
burn all the letters ( she says she hasn't been naughty )
if she knocks tell her i'm not home ( says she's only been nice )
burn all the letters from her to me
we know she'll take what she can
we've left a can of spam
there under her tree....


ya... i know:-)
peace y'all... drive safe, not sloshed... kim

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 19:21:46 est
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tigger, i got a wonderful card from you, but am not sure why ( no, i'm
definitely not complaining), but i don't have your email addy, so please email
me so i can appropriately thank you...is it ndygotigger, possibly...are you
sending money for the ig broadcasts???

sfwbw (that would be sorry for wasting bandwidth)

michelle

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i'm so bad, y'all so please accept the apologies now. i need to let susan k.
know that her daughters book is on its way. so, there ya go susan, it's on its
way. i've had a bad week all, so please do forgive me. i'll be signing offline
for a week or so, but will be back online after that. don't want aol to freak
out on me if i don't check my mail, while my puter is in the shop!!!! thanks
so much.

michelle

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 19:44:46 -0500
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subject:      curve mag, yet another fav moment . . .

first of all, does anybody know (i know somebody does...) when stores are
going to get the issue of curve w/ a&e on it?  it is the december issue,
right?  my best bet was a borders in good ol' towson md, but they still
only have the november issue . . . and i want the dec one! :) if anybody
knows you can email me privately.

also, my $.02 . . . does anybody else dig how amy says "stones" in keeper
of my heart?? :)  another to die for moment!

love,
carolyn!

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in a message dated 97-12-14 10:31:37 est, rhcp@alpha.wcoil.com writes:

<<  i'm sure most of us on here would enjoy it, and hey..it'd
give us more ta' talk about! "don't you just loooove the way amy's voice
sounds when she hits that note on...(whatever sexy christmas tune comes
to mind ;)" >>

well, when she was staring into my eyes and singing "all i want for christmas
is you" she sounded pretty darn good.

bon

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besides being bouncy, they send really kewl holidays cards... full of indigo
spirit!!!!!

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solstice carols, anyone?
how bout christians and the pagans by dar?
"amber called her uncle said we're up here for the holidays
jane and i were having solstice now we need a place to stay"
-julia
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in a message dated 97-12-14 18:41:11 est, terrilee11@aol.com writes:

<< if amy and emily recorded a holiday album you can bet it would not sound
like
mariah carey for mercy's sake! >>

risking complete ostracization, i have to say that mariah carey's christmas
album is very soulful, and i especially enjoy her rendition of  oh holy night.
y'all should give it a listen one of these days!

bonnie

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celia has corrected me...amy's pants were gray, emily's were darker gray.  they
say it is the memory that goes first...

wendy palmquist

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in a message dated 97-12-15 20:00:42 est, deb <indigo@mindspring.com> wrote:

>  =-=-=-=
>  memememi <memememi@aol.com> wrote:
>  >alas, i was not at this show, but lauren, who is not on the list right
now,
>  >asked that i post this review to the list for her.
>  >
>  >again, i am *not* the person who was at the show, or who wrote this
review.
>  >it was lauren.  any comments, etc., will be forwarded to her.
>
>  but lisa, you didn't include her address! :-)


that is a very good point, deb =)!

lauren's email address is nakedeye10@aol.com for anyone who wishes to respond
to her review =)

=)
lisa

ps.  when i wrote asking about emily's solo tape, i was begging for a copy of
the *early* emily solo tape, not the one of her in decatur square from last
year.  so if anyone still feels like being nice, email me =)

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whoo-hoo...that day has almost arrived...it's tomorrow!!!!!!!!  so who's
all going?  i sure am!!!! i am so excited.  i thought lilith would never
come to us, but i guess i was wrong.  for those of you that are
going....have fun!!!!!!

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 23:08:35 -0500
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subject:      superficial thoughts from me

speaking of great woods...(well i was speaking of it in my mind)
just watching the video of it & during the very last line of scooter boys
i drool.
when amy holds the last "own......virginity"
watch her face & watch her walk away & you'll
have pleasant dreams the rest of the evening.

i promise.
'night
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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 20:22:38 -0800
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yo!~

        the final jeopardy category is "lyrics".  for those of you who have
a positive score in this game #1, you may wager in final jeopardy.  when you
send me your wager, i will forward you the final question.
        good luck!

tony :)


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g       us away to our extinction -  emily saliers      s
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hey everyone,
i just had to add to the comments about boston.
first of all, i have never cried so much at a concert....secure yourself, thin
line, ghost, romeo&juliet....what were  they trying to do to me???
it was great seeing amy and emily getting out of a "big yellow taxi" and i
will never forget them saying "happy birthday" to me :)
                          dawn-michelle

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 21:04:41 -0800
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hi carolyn~

        at 09:49 pm 12/9/97 -0500, you wrote:
...  same with the curse and the blessing being
>one in the same . . . by every action you gain something and lose
>something, and even the best decision has consequences.

        i think you've arrived at something profound, carolyn! :)

(joni mitchell):  "now, my friends are acting strange.  they shake their
heads and they tell me that i've changed.  yes, i have!!  something's lost,
but something's gained; you learn it every day."
- <from> both sides now.

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 16:03:21 pst
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you are witnessing a rare event ....here, right before your very eyes,
my first decent post!!! <applause>

wow. boston was the most incredible experience of my life....i am still
completely amazed...here's my complete review. if anyone has a boot of
this show, i would love to trade...

i thought the night would be awful...i went down with my dad's wife who
tops the very short list of "people i don't like" (hey, i was desperate
and for amy i will brave the hell of driving from portland to boston
with her!) i have only heard an ig song on the radio twice in my
lifetime, but right when we got on the highway, ctf came on.

the ride down was okay...the haymarket sq. exit was closed, so we ended
up getting off in the gov't. center, and somehow ended up in
who-the-hell-knew-where, ma. eventually we landed ourselves at the
orpheum, right when jen trynin came on.

jen trynin rocks! i saw her 2 weeks ago when she opened for paula cole
here in portland. i was really happy to see her again. after the ptld.
show i talked to her a while, my friend and i were the only people who
got up and danced during her set and she appreciated it...if you haven't
heard jen's stuff, check it out, it's awes :)  "gun shy trigger happy"
is the name of the album...anyway, enough nigc.

my seat (balcony row u, 206) wasn't as bad as i expected. clear view.

the girls looked great. amy was wearing the striped shirt...<laugh>...i
must have some kind of stripe fetish...anyway, these details are
minor...

three hits- yeah! :)
it's alright
secure yourself- absolutely beautiful!
least complicated
shame on you- everyone having a lot of fun as usual
let it be me- wow! i was surprised they did this one, but glad they did.
i dunno, have they been performing it a lot recently??
nuevas senoritas- wow...first time i've heard it. hmmm....i like it.
shed your skin- wild. my favorite. sots song, and this version was
crazy! sarah did an excellent solo....it was just wild!
get out the map- :)
thin line- mesmerizing....another nice surprise
ghost- incredible. first time i've seen it performed.
* after ghost, em threw some picks out into the crowd, and someone in
the front row handed up a bag of cookies which amy happily accepted. (am
i wrong or did amy throw one back at jerry later on?)  says emily: "i
throw out the picks, and amy gets the cookies" (or something like that
:)
scooter boys- shit! i am not sure what to write here....amy was just
incredible.... she went on this long soc...does anyone know what that
was???? i was just entranced. she is so beautiful........ it was the
most intense thing i have ever experienced...i just can't explain how
damn amazing she was.... <insert: tangent where i ramble about how amy
is the most amazing, passionate, intelligent, talented, beautiful woman
alive....and so on> :)
hammer and nail- started out way off key, and they stopped and laughed
and regrouped...it was cute
romeo and juliet- sometime early in the set i told the girl next to me
if she played r&j i would die... fortunately, i did not, still, this is
2nd only to sb as most intense moment i've experienced...amy was so
sensitive...<insert: passionate, talented, intelligent, etc.> :)
chickenman- turned into a great jam. dave did a extensive harmonica
solo, amy was dancin' around, bein' all adorable... it was all great.
good soc.
galileo
leeds
bmhawk- before they played, amy talked about how the show was a wand
benefit, and about the action cards. "don't make an new mess 'til you
clean up the old mess".
closer to fine

and there you have it.....

first song on the radio on the ride home (which, by the way, my
stepmother got lost on....twice) : soy.

i went to bed happily at 3 am...and i think it was the indigo high which
helped me through my history final at 7:30!!!

anyway, thanks for reading this groundbreaking post! <g> and remember,
if anyone has a boot, please, email me privately! i would be ever
grateful!!

still floatin' indigo high......
becks

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 19:25:12 -0500
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okay 2 things.  the first is that i just realized that i have a copy of
the webcast of the girls' hte show in missoula (sp?) that perhaps someone
out there might possibly want.  as one of those listees with computer
limitations, i knwo i would have appreciated a copy had my brother not
made me a tape.  so since i have it i thought i'd offer it as well as the
fargo boot.  it's on a 110 min and it's an interesting show.  for once you
can hear all the girls' between song comments.  very little audience
sound, but i guess that's a soundboard for you.  so if you're interested
let me know.

secondly, in this webcast emily says that they are on they're way to la
the next day to tape a song for the free tibet cd (any news on this?) and
also were gonna shoot a video for get out the map.  emily said it was
gonna be cool and that the audience should call up mtv and make them play
it cause otherwise they wouldn't.  now this surprised me cause i always
thought they were sort of anti-success, but i gues now that i think about
that that it was really only amy that has said that she likes to sabbatoge
thing on purpose when they get "too" commercially  successful.  so now my
question is,where is this video?  they said a friend was shooting it.
anyone heard any news about it?  i know ig videos are almost impossible to
come by anyway, but does anyone know if this has actually been completed,
or are we just gonna hve to wait for watershed ii?

marivel

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date:         mon, 15 dec 1997 21:23:14 -0800
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okay girl/girl-loving types~

        what exactly does this mean?  my most fave current ig song is
dgtgag.  my six year old daughter can sing-along in perfect off-key harmony,
just like me :)
        my daughter is really fascinated by the "mean" part :o   helen also
loves the "dancin' naked in the sand" line fron fugitive.  anybody,
(urvashi) have  a clue as to what, if anything, this means?

just feelin' left out~
tony

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 01:00:08 -0500
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i know that a lot of people have already posted about this show. but, i
just had to say that i thought it was amazing! emily and amy were both
really into it. the setlist was great and it had a lot of old stuff.
secure yourself was a big surprise. never before have i laughed, danced,
and cried so much at one time. yes, some of their songs brought me to
tears especially, thin line, ghost, and romeo and juliet. it was really
neat to meet all the list people who were there. it was fun to bond
together in the cold, and seeing amy and emily arrive in a big yellow taxi
was definitely one of the highlight's of the night. my friend
dawn-michelle who is on this list is having a birthday in a few days and i
made a sign that said "sing happy birthday" and i gave it to a nice tall
guy in front of us who held it up after every song. if this guy is on the
list i send you my thanks because they wisshed her a happy birthday at the
end of the show and i have never seen her happier. anyway, that's about
it. oh, one more thing, i tried to bootleg the show, but the recorder that
i had was the same one from the umbc show and when we tested it out it
made everything sound garbled. i know people have asked this already, but
does anyone have a boot of the show? if you do i love to get a copy. i can
be reached at:

cch211@is8.nyu.edu (address all lowercase)

thanks a lot and take care,
chloe

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 01:11:36 -0500
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        ok. i just bought 500 more shares in our girls. hope this jolts
the price a little.  where is everyone? hellllllllllppppppp!!!!!!!

        mike

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 00:24:48 -0500
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hi list--with the help of buds kira raichert and tony "doolittle" fraps
(sorry if i botched your name), an idea has surfaced to try and cheer up my
dear friend deb who is still in the hospital.  she is still quite ill and
has been diagnosed with legionaire's disease.  i will be browsing the web
in a bit to see what that is exactly.  she is supposed to be able to go
home later in the week.

my point--i think she would really love some get well greetings from the
list.  i know she knows many here personally and has been in contact with
many others.  if you are so inclined to wish her well you may email your
thoughts to the following address and they will surely get delievered to
deb personally.  kira lives nearby and has been playing hospital visit
girl.  mail to:

kraichert@directs.com

if you are feeling extra special you can snail mail deb at home:

deb reiser
3166 n 89th st
milwaukee, wi  53222

thanks for listening and for thinking about others when in need.

greg

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marviel (is it an a or an e?????) asked...

secondly, in this webcast emily says that they are on
they're way to la
the next day to tape a song for the free tibet cd (any news
on this?)


and i can tell you...if no one else has...that it is
"clampdown" by the clash

byeeee

penelope....with smoke on the horizon yet again......

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hey y'all,

sorry to waste the bandwidth - this is from the web. maybe it will help.
everybody please send good thoughts and vibes to deb. she is a sweetie!

legionnaire's disease (legionellosis)

legionellosis is an acute bacterial disease caused by legionella
pneumophila, a poorly staining,
gram-negative bacillus commonly found in water. of the fourteen
currently recognized serogroups
of l. pneumophila bacteria, serogroup 1 is most commonly associated with
outbreaks and sporadic
cases of legionellosis. legionellosis may occur in two primary forms:
legionnaire's disease and
pontiac fever. legionnaire's disease is the most common form of
legionellosis.

legionella bacteria typically live in water; hot tubs, shower heads,
water faucets, air conditioning
systems, water cooling towers, and hot water heaters have all been
implicated as sources of
aerosolized water droplets contaminated with the bacteria.

q. what is legionnaire's disease?

a. legionnaire's disease is an acute, respiratory infection caused by
the bacterium legionella. an
outbreak of this disease in philadelphia in 1976, largely among people
attending a state convention
of the american legion, led to its name.

q. what are the usual symptoms?

a. symptoms commonly include headaches, fatigue, weight loss, body
aches, and fever.
non-productive cough, abdominal pains, and diarrhea occur in many
patients. in patients with
legionnaire's disease, pneumonia develops which can cause death. with
pontiac fever there is no
pneumonia, but the patient may have a high fever for 2-5 days and then
recover without treatment.
legionellosis commonly occurs in patients who are elderly,
immunocompromised, or otherwise in
poor health.

q. is the illness always severe?

a. studies have shown that about 5% to 15% of known cases of
legionnaire's disease have been
fatal. however, many people may be infected with the bacterium causing
legionnaire's disease
without developing any symptoms. others may be treated without having to
be hospitalized. recent
information suggests that many cases of legionnaire's disease go
undiagnosed.

q. how is the disease diagnosed?

a. your physician can order tests to confirm the diagnosis of
legionnaire's disease. the most useful
tests include culturing the bacteria from sputum, detecting the presence
of bacteria in a urine sample,
and comparing antibody levels in two blood samples collected three to
six weeks apart.

q. is there effective treatment for legionnaire's disease?

a. the currently recommended drug of choice is erythromycin, which
appears to be effective in
treating the disease. other drugs are available for patients unable to
tolerate erythromycin.

q. how is legionnaire's disease spread?

a. there is no evidence for person-to-person spread of the disease. most
people contract
legionnaire's disease by inhaling mist that comes from a water source
(e.g. showers, cooling towers,
whirlpool baths) contaminated with legionella bacteria. in some cases,
the disease may be
transmitted by aspirating contaminated water.

q. who gets legionnaire's disease?

a. people of any age may get legionnaire's disease, but the illness most
often affects middle-aged
and older people, particularly those who smoke cigarettes or who drink
heavily. also at risk are
people whose immune system is suppressed by diseases such as cancer,
kidney failure requiring
dialysis, diabetes, aids, chronic lung disease, or heart failure. those
who take drugs that suppress
the immune system such as prednisone, azathioprine, or cyclosporine are
also at higher risk.

q. are air conditioning systems a potential source of spread?

a. the bacterium has been found in cooling towers and evaporative
condensers of large air
conditioning systems. such systems have been associated with outbreaks
of disease.

q. where is the disease found?

a. cases have been identified throughout the united states and in
several foreign countries. it likely
occurs worldwide.

q. how common is legionnaire's disease in the united states?

a. it is estimated that around 10,000 people develop legionnaire's
disease each year in the united
states. an additional unknown number are infected with legionella
bacteria but have only a minor
illness or no illness at all. the disease can occur in outbreaks or as
single cases.

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-- [ from: maureen haley * emc.ver #2.5.3 ] --

seasons' greetings, listees,

      it is my impression that a number of you subscribe to acoustic
guitar magazine and, if so, maybe you could give me some help.  there is
an edition of ac from last year (summer or fall '96) with a fantastic
arrangement of the peanuts' theme linus and lucy in e.  i'm travelling
and going to be away from my treasured stack of ac mags for a little
while and, in those final minutes before my ride to the airport arrived,
i was frantically looking for this tab.  no luck.
      so, i was hoping that if someone could rustle-up that magazine,
maybe they could mail me a copy of l&l.
      i sure would be greatfu....er...grateful? thanks.
remember                            peace
maureen

ps:  random thoughts:  i would be hard-pressed to decide which i find
most *intriguing* - ig or their internet mailing list.  plus, what would
be the point in 'limiting' the number of posts on the list?  hey, isn't
it about time to bomb the list with the 'world's longest faq' again?  my
fav ig moment is on their first letterman appearance when dave spots
amy's tattoo and says "ya know, that won't wash off."  (emily responds
"do your parents know about that yet?" and amy says, "they do now.")
finally, i think an ig christmas disc where they just cover trashy punk
songs would be great!   happy holidays!!!
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<< bonnemot <bonnemot@aol.com> wrote:
>hey everybody, here's a cover question for ya - does anybody else think the
>ig's outperform the original artist on every single cover they do?  >>

you know ....i have to say i am really really fond of buffy saint marie's
version
of "bury my heart at wounded knee". in fact i like it best :)
and in spite of all its ig glory... "keep on rockin' in the free world"
belongs to neil young.
( but amy has really staked a claim on "down by the river")

well sports fans .... "shame on you" may not have cracked the top 10
but i the intro has found new life as bumper music on  radio talk shows .
and fine bumper music it is ... a real toe tapper.

ta !
claire

" i spent a few hours in the maze today with puff, a young elf from brooklyn.
we were standing near the lollipop forest when we realized that 'santa'
is a anagram for 'satan'. father christmas or the devil - so close
but yet so far...... ( david sedaris, "the sntaland diaries")

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hey all!

i was just hanging out on the lilith fair web page (www.lilithfair.com) and
thought i'd let you know that this week's highlight in the scrapbook section
is: indigo girls!!

it talks a bit about how the girls brought everyone on the tour together &
then it has a couple of cool things- a movie or two of everyone singing
together & stuff like that. to check it out you just click on scrapbook once
you get to the main lilith page & it'll say highlight of the week.

peace,
rick
who'll be @ today's lilith- look for a tall dude in a rent hat & say hi!!

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in a message dated 97-12-16 11:55:38 est, bonnemot@aol.com writes:

<< risking complete ostracization, i have to say that mariah carey's christmas
album is very soulful, and i especially enjoy her rendition of  oh holy
night.
y'all should give it a listen one of these days! >>

...i love mariah carey's christmas album!!  i would actually love to hear
michelle malone sing "all i want for christmas is you". she'd tear down the
house!!

(my collection ranges from mariah to ig, from celine to tori, from concrete
blonde to the carpenters... variety is the spice of life)

rick
*whatever you do, don't fall asleep.*

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 10:04:38 -0800
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> ig for christmas. if anyone has a composed list of pics, videos,
> tapes, etc. that they would like to trade - please email me privately.

thanks to everyone who sent me info on stuff to trade. i did find a
*great* audio bootleg that i think my gf will like - thanks so much
lisa!

> correspond with beth durff (bed1@hotmail.com or bed1@psu.edu)
> just want to let you know that she has been in the hospital.
> i have a phone # if anyone would like to contact her - please email me

general fyi for those people still asking - she was scheduled to come
home yesterday (last update was saturday). if so, i don't know if she
can/will be back to work immediately, but it's probably safe to
address cards to her house or call her at home now. randy, i sent you
a private email about this...

laura
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---randy <randyogn@fast.net> wrote:
> hey, laura. i'm a friend of beth's, but we haven't e-mailed for a
while.
> do you happen to have a phone number or mailing address so i can get
in
> touch with her? thanks
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> randy
> 82496, 71297
> love with perfect clarity....sued

sorry i haven't gotten back to you sooner - things sure can get really
crazy over the holidays! you can send a card to the house now i
believe or give her a call. they were starting to think about letting
her go home in the next few days (and that was saturday). what a mess
- a *very* serious relapse of mono that sent her to the emergency room
- potential kidney damage and walking pneumonia (sp?)to boot. i'm sure
that she would be glad to hear from you and tell you about it.

i have to go - the phone is ringing! nice to hear from you!

laura


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whoops !!! so sorry all - that was private email.

laura
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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 13:47:16 -0500
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i am so tickled with these cards, i wanna do this for valentines day
too!!

thank you y'all

love  karen

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 11:50:18 -0700
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thanks to everyone who sent me ideas for my sister who asked for a "feminist
book." i got several messages asking me to post suggestions to the list, so
here they are:

books for your feminist friends (recommended by ig list members):

women who run with the wolves - ???

backlash - susan faludi

the lesbian anthology (any edition)

alison bechdel's comic strip collections

the girls next door: into the heart of lesbian america - linday van gelder and
pamela robin brandt

promiscuities - naomi wolff

waking the world: classic tales of women and the heroic feminine - a.b.
chienen, m.d.

early embraces - ???

i ended up getting her the girls next door and waking the world (both from
borders).

thanks again, everyone!

- paul (who is now jazzed because he just got free tickets to the artist
formerly known as prince for tonite!)

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paul zastrow
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221 walnut
des moines, ia 50309
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now i'm serious kids.
hey laura..i hope yer friend gets better...specially at this time of
year we all need to count our blessings and send out positive thoughts
those those who need them

and.....while we're sending getbetter soon thoughts.
deb reiser,,get outta that sick bed......
we need ya back
ps greg..let us know how shes doin..k?

happy"its winter and we don't have finals ( at least i don't) anymore
time of year" to you all..
i have a great big batch of "fill in the blank" cookies for anyone who
wants to stop by..

pps..thanks jewish mom and sus..i know it'll be ok...just haven't
figgered out how yet..look at it this way..it sure can't get any worse

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...and it rocks!  here's my .02 about the show:

once again, pretty much everything has already been said.  so i'll just
share my personal highlights.  secure yourself, what a wonderful
surprise to hear this oldie, and one of my favorites too!  nuevos
senoritas. (alanna, this is that new song you were wondering about)  so
sweet!  i'm so happy to have finally heard it (and it is crystal clear
on my tape)!  shed your skin.     what heather said, and then some!  and

we wont even talk about that dancy little hip swivel thing she kept
doing.  oh my!!  the great cookie exchange!  "i give up *my* picks.
*amy* gets the cookies.  that's democracy for you!"  -- emily.  scooter
boys, the soc.  wow!  almost getting busted by security while taping.  i

saw a red light over here.  what red light?  i didn't see a red light.
the light was green occifer.  i swear!  and of course, there was that
incredibly cute blonde sitting next to me who chatted with me through
the entire break (heheh!).

back to the boot.  it sounds absolutely incredible!  it does need a
little cleaning up.  the bass end is a bit distorted in spots thanks to
the screwy mixing job at the board.  i'm in the middle of finals and so
is the guy who does my mix downs, so it will be at least a week before i
can offer this up, but i wanted everyone to know that i've got it.  i'll
be making a grand announcement when its ready.  i'm thinking that there
will be a lot of demand for this, so are there any folks that would like
to be branches for a tree?  write me privately.  'kay. that's it for
now.  back to studying.

dianne

"it would be hard to say what my life would be like unattached to this
particular experience"  -- emily

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as much as we don't always want ig to get too big, you always get
excited when you hear 'em on the radio.  i use the radio as my alarm in
the morining, but when commercials or just plain ol' bad songs comeon i
listen to my own music (this mornin' 4.5).
if the song thats playing when snooze is over is good, i pause my cd
player.  well one time it came on, and the announcer said "that was
blues traveler, and before that we had the indigo girls with shame on
you."  i don't know whay i was so mad i missed it, i was just listening
to tried to be true.  i own soy.  i was still p'od.  i guess its the
whole radio variety thing that makes it exciting 'cuz they picked 'em
out of everything they own.
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hey, does anybody have some of the setlists from this summer saved?  i
want to know what ig played @ blossom on jun 12 (??)in cleveland, 'cuz
it was my very first concert i ever saw them in.  i would also like to
see the setlist for lilith fair in columbus @ polaris this summer in
mid-august.  if you have the whole concert report, that would be even
better (heck if i could get boots, that would really make me smile--i
have nuttin' to trade, but i can send ya a tape & postage).

love,
  carol

'nuff

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on sun, 14 dec 1997, shufa nasser <shuffa@yahoo.com> writes:

>it would be utterly devastating to hear the ig doing
>all those trashy renditions of absolutely worn out christmas songs.

yeah, but wouldn't it be great if they could write their own?
i know this has probably already been said, but i think it would be neat
to hear what they would do with christmas music.  or even just seasonal
music in general.

i love listening to them do "wild wild party in the loquat tree" - i
think rudolph or other songs of that type would be fun to hear them play.

interesting thread....i wonder if they would actually do something like
this...

:)
anna

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tony fraps wrote:
okay girl/girl-loving types~
what exactly does this mean? (referring to strong and mean)
being both a girl and a girl-loving type you would think i'd have the answer to this one down pat! but i have a guess....and that guess comes from the boy-loving part of me as well :)
i think that women sort of have to be the hardy sort...strong, mean, assertive...in this world more often than people would like for us to be, and more often than people believe we are. to me, when she sings about strong and mean, it suggests not mean in the traditional sense of nasty and snide, but rather like a mother protecting her young...steadfast and determined to guard what is good. i have visuals of amy doing a mother-tiger impersonation standing up for either her so or herself or anything else that she believes in. sort of assertive and standing her ground.
so strong and mean in this context suggest to me a woman who can take care of herself and stand up for what she believes in and loves. just as well your daughter likes that part! :)

urvashi pitre, ph.d.

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is there a kind soul out ther who would be willing to tape the melissa
etheridge unplugged for me (audio that is).  mine got all messed up.  :(

let me know!

thanks
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>date: fri, 21 nov 1997 23:26:10
>to: flyfire@bbs.ce.nthu.edu.tw
>from: therese or jessica light <light@cstone.net>
>subject: please be kind
>
>        i found this address while looking on the internet and here is why
i was seeking it out-see i have a really good friend named chris who is
completly opsessed with you, don't worry not in a scary or at least not
threatening way, he owns everthing related to you already... he has
clothing..he has all the cds and if you cover a song he will get your
version, the original version, and any one else's version of that song as
well, he has all the song books, everything....see i was thinking and i want
to get him a christmas pressent he would really charish but like i said he
already has everything so i was wondering if perhaps you could write an
email to him on my adress for me to give to him, as a gift( plus i am rather
broke at the moment) see he doesn't have email and i know that when he got
that he would be so excited he would most likly pee in his pants.....i
wouldn't ask this of you but he really is a great friend, like at the psats
he was sitting at the table next to me and before it started i was freaking
out and panicing, when i look over at chris and he is just singing and
jamming to "closer to fine" his hint to me to take my life less seriously,
and it totally worked i couldn't help but smile and join in..while we were
taking the test he was quite and everything like he should be, but then
after each section i would look over and he would be lipsinking the words to
himself and tapping his feet and all...i just don't think i could have made
it with out him, atleast if i had made it i know i wouldn't have had as much
fun....he is just over all a great guy that completly loves y'all and i was
just wondering if you could help me do this for him....thanks alot and i
understand if i am asking an impossibility
>my email address is light@cstone.net
>                thanks
>                jessica light
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sfwbw

marcy,
i got the package today. i forget, do i owe you money for the starter kit??
hope not. email me if i do. if not, thank you for getting one for me. now my
friend has one and so do i...thanks

michelle

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my gf moved away, my kids are all in school, the insurance for my car has
expired, and i'm looking for a job, so hey... i got a lot of time on my
hands... what can i say?:-) i'm going nuts!!!!
the following is a result of my mania...
(shame on you)

my friend awash with egg nog
red nose shiney acting dumb
shook me awake on christmas morning early one time
and said lets go have some "harmless fun"
she said lets put on some tunes, sing along with
ol' bing crosby
go out on the balcony
take off our clothes
our own light display
officer said la la la
shame on you....

"i've seen lots in chicago city flats
and i've got to hand out fines
smoking weed and drinking rum
wont neccisarily garnish you time
but when you flash a cop from your balcony
cause you didn't see me there
your white butts
mooning passing cars as you wave them in the air
your gonna be cited
la la la shame on you
you'll be read miranda
la la la shame on you..."

my friend's lawyer she said "arrested christmas? jesus,
have a heart
i don't want to come to the precinct
ummmm, bet my truck won't start"
so we'll cool our heels for chicago city heat
sing the blues all day
beautiful ladies share our flop
(they asked an officer to pay)
they'll be singing
oh la la la shame on you
the officer said...

don't go traffic flashin' in the middle of the night
from your balcony
there'll be blue lights flashing down the long main road
several officers sent out
they'll say "we had reports of indecent exposure,
some phoned from their cars"
and then "you know it's funny i think we've
arrested you every christmas since 94...."
officer said...

yuppers... too much egg nog:-)
peace... kim
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hi everyone,
        does anyone know what venue the girls will be playing when they
come to santa barbara on january 30? i haven't heard anything about it so
any info would be appreciated. please email me privately, thanks!
                danielle

"when i tried to make it more it was always less...."-ar

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 19:49:36 est
reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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--- you wrote:
i would actually love to hear
michelle malone sing "all i want for christmas is you". she'd tear down the
house!!
--- end of quote ---
yay-uh, you said it! but how about michelle beltin out "all i want for
christmas is my two front teeth?"... i have a set of chompers with her name on
em ;)

sus

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 17:18:24 -0800
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hey kind friends~

        as greg flamer already wrote, deb reiser is in the hopitable ill.
she may be coming home later this week, but we thought it might cheer deb up
to get some get well messages from the list.
        besides being a great person, deb has done countless things for this
list over the years and i know she has many friends and well-wishers out
there in cyber space.
        so get your fingers moving and send deb a message now!  in care of
kira raichert <kraichert@directs.com>.  kira has graciously agreed to
collect the messages and deliver them to deb :)

peace~
tony

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 20:34:10 est
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i swear, there must be something about this list and members quitting their
jobs...
i just told them where they could stick mine today after 13 years!  what's
that, about 5 or 6 of us in the past couple of months?

hey get well soon, deb & beth...we're pullin' for ya.

maureen

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 17:51:52 -0800
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        hey sharon~

        i just tried to send your result to the final jeopardy answer, but
it was returned because of "administrative prohibition".  i guess now that
you've earned that doctorate in chemistry, you are no longer qualified for
e-mail privileges :o
        if you get access, email me and i will send you the results.

tony

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 18:38:01 -0800
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at 02:37 pm 12/16/97 -0700, amy m. wrote:
>are you gonna tell us how anyone else scored so we know where we stand? or
>are we just gonna fly by the seat of our pants?
>
>just curious,
>amy m.

        perfectly good question amy.  i expected it sooner!

        >>going into final jeopardy the leaders are:

        1st place - sarah wardrop and egohound both tied with a perfect
$10,500.
        2nd place - sharon jennings at $10,400.
        3rd place - 42nat1 (melissa) at $10,200.
                  - jan monforton (sam) at $10,100.
                  - tigger at $9,900.
                  - claudine lapsky at $9,900.
                  - debigogrl at $9,900.
                  - delastraw at $9,900.
                  - bethany at $9,700
                  - guinione (chris) at $9,700.

       the final jeopardy category is "lyrics".  for those of you who have a
positive score in this game #1, you may wager in final jeopardy.  when you
send me your wager, i will forward you the final question.
        good luck!

tony :)

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 21:22:51 -0400
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just wanted to post a message to publicly profess my undying love for
this tune...since i received my copy of the "wrek interview... (courtesy
o' miss lisa dupre!)" i've been listening to it like some sort of
fiend....it makes my guts hurt...uggggh.  my favorite part you ask?!
amy's verse..."i was driving down highway 85...etc..." damn baby..this
one's been hidin' from me! ;)

-bethany ;)

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 20:42:04 -0500
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hi list--thanks to all those who sent notes to deb already.  keep em coming

kraichert@directs.com

update--she is still in the hospital and now being visited by the board of
health.  apparently what she has is rather rare and tends to come in large
clusters in certain areas and is contagious so i guess they wanna contain
it.  just heard that it may not be legionairre's afterall after a recent
urine test.  i'll keep y'all posted as i know more.  thanks again for
caring.

also kira has asked that no one send emails to deb's direct address for it
has exploded from all the list mail and subsequent get well notes.  send
all notes to kira please.  thank you.  ciao

greg

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 22:15:48 -0500
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the card kicks ass dear thank you for it
hugs anthony van pyre

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 21:13:14 -0500
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hey everyone...
i have been lurking here for a while, and finally decided to post.  my favorite indigo girls moment, although, there have been years full of them, had to be when my girlfriend and i went to see their honor the earth benefit in nyc a year ago last september.  we paid crazy money for the tickets, and it was at this club where there were no more than 75 people.  well, amy and emily ate their dinner right next to us (they had the chicken), and then performed.  then after, meg and i went up to amy (who was chatting with sara lee), and talked a little bit to her.  she was really nice, and when passing by i even touched her bra strap.  i know you all will understand... (it was intimate! hehe.)  then later we just said a quick hello to emily. yeah!
then ofcourse... when i saw them for my first time at the newport folk fest and they sang "it's alright".  the "hate me cause i'm gay" part... oh, my god, i was in the highest state of euphoria... (my boyfriend was about five rows behind me, but that is another story.)  it was freedom at it's absolute finest.  after they finished i went back to my sister, and just put my head on her shoulder and wept.  everyone was like, "that girl is crying", and i was, but i guess i had just cause.
anyway, thanks for listening to my ramblings... i love this list.  i must go study for finals now.  good luck to all who are suffering with finals themselves.  -liz

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all done, all done, only 30 hours for psych data analysis, one problem
set, and a lab; 2 papers, 16 pages of journals, one zine made from
scratch, 100 pages read, and one feminist collective report for women's
studies, 8 poems, 6pp. of prose, and 6pp. of journals for creative
writing portfolio, a math project, a 3-hour performance of mendelssohn's
elijah, and and and ....
and now i can collapse.
had to share.
jill
not too shabby for a weekend.
gotta love higher education.

p.s. here's a one-liner poem i wrote:


scholarship

endless pursuit of procrastination

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 22:46:19 -0500
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hey all.  i thought i'd offer up my thoughts on this one.

>>i have visuals of amy doing a mother-tiger impersonation standing up for
either her so or herself or anything else that she believes in. sort of
assertive and standing her ground.<<

when i hear amy sing that for some reason to me it shows weakness or
somehting.  i don't know if i'm reading into it to much or what.  but to me
its like shes talking about what it used to be like, she being the strong
one, and now she's the weak one. i kind of put cio and dgtgag together.
maybe that's why i think that...."cut it out i'm tender"...ok, time for bed.
                                                  -kate

                                                   grnpeace@fullnet.com

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"majoring in religion, listening to t.v. evangelists interpret the
scriptures and dictate my offerings- i found my god in myself,
around myself- in every moment and piece of matter.
everything is animate."   a. ray

"don't critisize what you can't understand."  b.dylan
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date:         wed, 17 dec 1997 14:46:48 +1100
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hey folks,

as you may have noticed from my sig, i'm going away at the start of
next week for about three weeks.  while i'm away, admin support for
this list is going to be sketchy at best, because i probably won't
have email access while i'm gone and jude is perpetually busy.

so, if there are any admin questions or problems you want to ask me
about, pipe up now!  you can mail me through the listowner address,
indigo-girls-request@netspace.org, or privately at sherlyn@fl.net.au.

here are some tips for while i'm away:

a) if the list goes down during the holidays:
don't panic!  remember that the netspace folks have holidays too, so
the server might not be started again straight away - just hang in
there.  any mail received by the server while the list is down will
be processed as soon as the server is revived.  in other words, you'll
get a flood of mail to let you know when the list comes back online. :)
if you're not sure whether the list is down or not, privately mail
someone from the list (not me, since i'll be away!) and ask them
whether they're still getting list mail.  if they are and you're not,
there are two main possible reasons:
i) your mail's stuck in one of those inexplicable internet black
        holes and will probably appear in a day or so;
ii) you were bouncing mail and got automatically removed from the
        list.

to check whether you're still subscribed to the list, send this
command to listserv@netspace.org to check the subscriber list:
        review indigo-girls
if you can't see your name on the list, you'll need to resubscribe
using this command:
        subscribe indigo-girls <your name>
replace "<your name>" with your name, of course.

b) unsubscribing, nomail and digest options:
if you're going away, think about whether your mailbox is likely to
fill up while you're gone.  if your mailbox does fill up, you might
find yourself unsubscribed.  this particularly applies to aol users!
if you think your mailbox is going to fill up, or if you just don't
want to come back to a zillion new messages, you might want to think
about one of these options:
i) if you're going away for a long time, you should unsubscribe from
        the list by sending this command to listserv@netspace.org:
                signoff indigo-girls
ii) if you're going away for a short time, you can tell the server
        to stop sending you messages while still keeping your name
        on the subscriber list.  to do this, send this command to
        listserv@netspace.org:
                set indigo-girls nomail
        when you come back, this command will switch your mail back
        on again:
                set indigo-girls mail
iii) or, bounce users might simply want to switch from bounce to
        digest - send this comand to listserv@netspace.org:
                set indigo-girls digest
        to switch back to bounce when you come back, the command is:
                set indigo-girls nodigest

you might want to give these commands a try before the weekend, so
that if you run into any problems, i can help you out before i go
away.

c) don't worry, be happy:
be nice to each other!  remember - it's the holiday season, whatever
holidays you celebrate.  flame wars always generate a lot of mail
which therefore generate a lot of bounces which therefore means more
mail for me to wade through when i get back.  so, be nice to one
another, be polite to one another - and consider it your present to
me. *grin*  and if someone posts an administrative question that you
know the answer to on the list, go ahead and step forward and help
them out!

okay, i think that's all.  thanks for reading folks - you might want
to save this message in case you run into problems (i'm sure you
won't :) while i'm gone.  oh, and we're also working on an update to
both faqs which i'll be posting to the list over the next couple of
days.

happy happy everyone,
sherlyn
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    and oh... aren't we aging well?"   - dar williams

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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 23:06:07 -0500
reply-to:     alanna christine <alannang@bu.edu>
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hello, is there anyone out there in the list world who has a copy of the u
dayton show, and would like to make me a copy?  i have no trades to offer,
but i just know it'll make a great xmas gift for my friend.

thanks for the bandwidth,
-alanna


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be aware and to be open to both sides of issues, to know where people are
coming from and that's impotant...that's important because it makes you
feel good."
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major argument!  please help!

how old is michelle malone and is there any press evidence or anything outside
the realm of breach-of-privacy (news articles, etc) to support a rumor that
amy and michelle once dated?  we'd like to settle this!!!!  :o)

peace, harmony & indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism
  ~novitiate of suzanneglassism
   ~president, grlchasr26 fan club
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and he said, cause you're in my front yard!
boy did i feel as white as the snow!"
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date:         tue, 16 dec 1997 21:54:12 -0800
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at 09:23 pm 12/15/97 -0800, tony wrote:
>okay girl/girl-loving types~
hey!!! woo hoo! i gots the paper right here what qualifies me to answer this
question... i'm a grrl, i luv grrrls... okay, okay... i oughta be brilliant
at this then...
ummmm...
"i'm your girl, strong and mean..."
my take on this song/line is that a is singing about how she'd messed up
somehow in the eyes of her lover + then tried everything to win back the
love/trust of this girl ( who really ought not be given a gun :-) not a
literal gun, but rather, more amo in the way of support from the jury of
amy's peers ). she'd grovled + pleaded, even crawled, but no way was she
going to be given a chance to redeem herself. so she is now resigned to face
the fact that whatever it is the girl has to say about/to her, it's not
going to be kind, and that could be hurtful. rather than leave herself
vulnerable to more hurt, i think amy's being tough here... it's as if she's
saying "okay, give me your best shot... try to hurt me, i can take it." ya
know... "i'm your girl, strong and mean"...
that's my take... prolly clear as a kiddy pool in a sand box...
peace all:-) kim
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skin baby, let it through... comeonovernow!!!!... amy ray
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date:         wed, 17 dec 1997 01:14:35 -0500
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so ill aks again does anyoen have this boot

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hi everybody- back & barely awake, but since my capacity to remember things is
embarassingly small, thought i'd post this now.

3:35- village stage- mary karlzen
just mary & mark (?) playing acoustic guitars. don't remember any of the
titles, but i loved the songs. will actually be going out tomorrow to hunt
down "shouting at mary". very funny coupla people. (note: cute guy on stage)

4:05- village stage- kacy crowley
  hmmm. jury's out. i liked the first song, not the second. liked the third,
not the next. was kind of taken aback when she was about to start & i turned
around & swore for half a second that it was ani difranco. she's just a wee
little thing.

4:25- b stage- chantal kreviazuk
  okay, big surprise. i had 2 of her songs on compilations- "hand" which i
didn't like at all, and "god made me" which has grown on me. the songs she
sang that were not "hand" i fell in love with. sorta reminded me of a calmer
paula cole. nice lady, too. will look up her album.

5:05- b stage- letters to cleo
  my first big thrill of the day. they're favorites of mine. set list more or
less:
fast way/awake/i got time (!!!)/anchor/something i forgot/big star (!!!)/here
& now. it's quite possible there was another song in there, too, but that's
mostly it. kay gave me this whole vibe that for some odd reason made me recall
seeing belinda carlisle & the go-go's back when i was in sixth grade. rockin'
band. first time i got to see 'em live. very cool.(note: cute guys too)

5:30- village stage- ana gasteyer
  ana (of snl fame) was playing a character named kimber. she was basically
doing a parody of ultra-serious pc folk singer-type people. hilarious! she did
the "basted in blood" song that she performed with sarah mclachlan on snl a
few weeks ago, as well as an anti-frankfurter song called "sausage of pain".
she also did a whole monologue routine-rant about the holidays that made me
laugh my ass off & wonder if she's been lurking on the indigo girls mailing
list lately...

5:50- main stage- luscious jackson
  another group i like a lot. their setup was a lot like the one joan osborne
had when i saw her @ lilith in atlanta. i love it when there's a band and a
dj- it just makes things feel funky. (that was a little joke for anybody who's
actually met me & heard me say "feel funky") set list- here/strongman/mood
swing/naked eye/deep shag/why do i lie/surprise. kate s. is a kickass
drummer!! i liked 'em, but i think i prefer their studio stuff.

6:25- b stage- k's choice
  this is the part when i ate dinner.

7:00- main stage- missy elliot
  ok, i dig missy. but apparently no one else did. the only time the crowd was
even slightly into her was when she did "the rain"- i really felt for the
girl- she was feeling sick & giving it her best, but i don't think many people
appreciated what she does. :( i don't think she even did her full set. what
she did do was: sock it to me (!!)/ beep me 911/ some other song.../supa dupa
fly (the rain)  there were dancers & they actually started the set by dancing
to the prodigy.  i love you, missy!!

7:50- main stage- indigo girls
  the best show i've seen. this was the first time i got to see a&e with jerry
on the drums & sara lee on bass. very cool. (no romeo & juliet, sorry) they
also brought out the others to play with 'em, which i loved. here you go:
shame on you/least complicated/shed your skin (with missy elliot hoppin'
around & kate from luscious jackson on drums!)/get out the map/tried to be
true (with sheryl crow on accordian & backups)/water is wide (with sheryl crow
& sarah mclachlan)/keep on rockin' in the free world (with k's choice)/scooter
boys/galileo/closer to fine (with sheryl, sarah, k's choice, kacey, and
luscious jackson)  no broken strings, amy wore the same outfit i saw her in
last time, sara lee played keyboards on rockin' in the free world.

9:00- main stage- sheryl crow
  pretty groovy performance. by this point i was tired of standing, but she
got me swinging again. but then again, i fall for anyone with a harmonica.
set:
a change/sweet rosalyn/if it makes you happy/home/every day is a winding
road/hard to make a stand/leaving las vegas/all i wanna do (that's in no
particular order) hard to make a stand was the highlight, imho. ;)
also, sheryl had a cold :(

10:10- main stage- sarah mclachlan
   uh-huh!! my girl rocked. a much better performance than the atlanta lf, i
felt. before she even stepped out, we were all on our feet. amazing energy for
a buncha freezing floridians (tech note: a freezing floridian is a floridian
in weather under 60 degrees) i may feel that she was better cuz i loved the
set: sweet surrender/wait/hold on/building a mystery/angel/good enough
possession/ice cream  definitely my mom's favorite act. (mom also thought that
kacy was sort of like bob dylan -not a compliment from her- didn't dig missy
(shock), thought that luscious jackson were talented but not her style,  loved
mary karlzen & chantal, thought ltc were "very energetic"- loved ana g's act,
sheryl crow, and most importantly the indigo girls. ;)

finale- main stage- everyone but missy e & ana g-
  "big yellow taxi". highlight of the night, for sure! and i laughed my ass
off when the girls behind me asked if that was one of sarah's songs. the
answer- "no, not hers, but i think it's one of those chick's"  sacrilege.

side notes: i was a bit bummed cuz i was looking for a coupla people and
didn't find them due to the whole crowd thing. :( i was hugely saddened when i
realized how far from the stage our seats were, but i dealt. some day i will
get that henna thing done, i swear. finally, people with purple hair are the
coolest.

personal note- lisa, she did get her hair cut shorter & from now on i'm not
going to shows without you because you get the best seats.

there ya have it, way too much info, but what the hey, when i forget i forget
it all, and when i remember... well usually i forget most of it, you caught me
on a good day. ;)

peace,
  rick
*whatever you do, don't fall asleep*

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date:         wed, 17 dec 1997 02:52:47 -0500
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> 7:50- main stage- indigo girls
> closer to fine (with sheryl, sarah, k's choice, kacey, and
> luscious jackson)

sheryl forgot the words on her part on ctf.  duh!!!!

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date:         wed, 17 dec 1997 07:31:48 est
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i'm not sure who was requesting info about michelle's age, but i stumbled
across this during a moment of insomnia and thought of you (who ever you be).
btw, she's 30, if you don't feel like going to the site.

<a href="http://www.michellemalone.com/bio.html">michelle malone: bio</a>

molly o+

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man, i just love it when i read something on the list that i think i'd
like to respond to, so i think about it for a little while, and then
somebody posts a message which says pretty much exactly what i myself
was thinking.  in this case, i couldn't agree more with kim's (goddess
in her own reality) post,
especially:

>my take on this song/line is that a is singing about how she'd messed
>up somehow...tried everything to win back the love/trust of this girl
>...not a literal gun, but rather, more amo in the way of support from
>the jury of amy's peers ) rather than leave herself vulnerable to >more
hurt, i think amy's being tough here... it's as if she's saying >"okay,
give me your best shot... try to hurt me, i can take it."

the above is majorly edited in deference to bounce viewers...
anyway, i couldn't possibly have put it better myself.  this is just
exactly how i have thought of this song.

peace-nic (who has joined the ranks of the "ah-breathers" having
          managed to complete the semester all in one piece)

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can anyone give me advice on which is the *best* kristen hall cd?
i'm eager to get some stuff from her after hearing "too long running"...


thanks!
therese :)


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hi sharon~

        i tried twice more to send you a message, but they were also kicked
back :o
see the bottom of this message for your question.

tony

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at 06:41 pm 12/16/97 +0500, you wrote:
>hi tony,
>
>i might as well wager all of it..... $10,700 i think..... can't remember
>how much exactly.

       you presently have $10,400.

lyrics-

       "is there ever anything else that makes us take our different sides?"

good luck!

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well..
1.i must admit that all this bickering about the nonexistant
christmas album is getting us no where.
in fact,deb,(may she recover asap),pointed out a
jane sibbery thing for christmas, so im all reformed now.maybe i was
just exposed to really bad christmas muzak as a child.well,im trying
to ease my stance.will the christians among you pray for her and what
is the pagan equivilant anyone?

2.what does sitting in broken circle mean??
!!!????!!!!????!!!!!!??????!!!?????!??????
3.lets show kim,the talented ,some support.
id like to propose that we nominate her official list
lyric parodee-er...goddess of her own reality and a happy sad one it
is...responses?
4.(nigc)i wasnt aware of a certain ellen/k-d lang
kissing event until a few minutes ago and i feel cheated but thankful
to the one who showed me the pic;-)

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the lord there's people out there like you...
leaving aint fair and parting aint just,but hey..
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hi all!

boy, are you guys quick!  i just wanted to let you know that i already
have enough volunteers.  thanks for helping everyone!  i'm just going to
take the first 12 (i'll let you know who you are soon) plus sherlyn who
offered to be a branch for australia.  which brings up a question.  i've
never set up a tree before, so i don't know if it's a good idea to have
a seperate branch for canada.  anyone have any advise on this and are
any of the folks that wrote to me in the great white north?  if anyone
has any other helpful hints on setting this up, your advice would be
greatly apreciated.  i'm hoping to have the tape ready to send out to
the branches by early next week. i'll keep you all posted.

dianne

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hi friends:

well, the ig last night was awesome!!!! i must say that after seeing them
preform at least 5x's, this was the best. i was only three rows from the
stage, directly below amy. they both looked and sounded terrific. cheryl crow
and sarah joined them in a couple songs (sheryl forgot the words to ctf - very
embarassing).
k's choise joined in for dylan's "rockin' in a free world" that sounded better
than the cassette (i think it's the flip side of "power of two"). the energy
was high and they were great!!!! i would say they were the highlight of the
concert. (the ig t-shirts were awesome - i bought two!). k's choice was good
as well.

both sarah mcglocklan (sp) and sheryl crow were ill and didn't sound as good
as they usually do. but, all in all - great concert. i was fortunate enough to
give my extra tickets to some ig fans who had a great time.

take care and be safe  ~

annie

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date:         wed, 17 dec 1997 14:06:17 -0400
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i can't post any messages to the igboston list, which i am subscribed
to..i don't know why...  the addy is igboston@space.mit.edu, right?  well,
all my posts are bounced back to me...
a) why is this?!
b) how do i temporarily unsubscribe from the igboston list (this is all
   the more difficult condsidering i can't get any messages
   through...)(plus i lost that list o' subscriber info that ya get when
   you join.bleh.)
c) could somebody forward this to the igboston head honcho?
thanks y'all
jill


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'cause i had a paper due... so i figured
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date:         wed, 17 dec 1997 13:06:53 -0600
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it's bu-bye to the ig list for me - my email account is about to close and
i'm taking my pc round to my parents for them to use.

if anyone needs to keep in touch with me, until january 12 (when i fly to
atlanta, woo-hoo!!), you can contact me on tomirene@premiernet.co.uk

i hope everyone has a merry christmas and a happy hogmanay and y'all behave
yourselves and no flame wars while i'm away. :)

gail

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date:         wed, 17 dec 1997 15:11:48 -0500
reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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lauree shampine <shampine@ll.mit.edu> wrote:
>set list losers:
>  chickenman - the quintessential amy song evolved beyond
>               all recognition

i think maybe they're wearing this one thin... time to substitute "1-2-3,"
"pushing the needle too far," "touch me fall," or a good cover that amy can
rock out to... as much as they've shifted their set list this year, i don't
recall seeing a show without "chickenman."

=-=-=-=
jayne fox <jfox@holycross.edu> wrote:
>the guy i went with and i got into a huge
>'debate' on the way home about whether this was good - i loved it -
>thought it felt more like a huge sing-along with a & e than a concert. my
>friend said it spoiled it for him because he wanted to hear the girls-- not
>the fans of the girls.

there's definitely a line for me between fun singing along and annoying
singing along.  when the crowd overwhelms the performers, the line has been
crossed.  one of the things i love about the umbc tape is that it captures the
enthusiasm of the crowd well, you can hear them singing along to several
songs, but in such a way that they complement the performance, rather than
obscuring it.

=-=-=-=

rbsayre wrote:
>3:35- village stage- mary karlzen
> just mary & mark (?) playing acoustic guitars. don't remember any of the
>titles, but i loved the songs. will actually be going out tomorrow to hunt
>down "shouting at mary".

you won't regret it, mary is a fantastic singer/songwriter.

=-=-=-=
shufa nasser <shuffa@yahoo.com> wrote:
>in fact,deb,(may she recover asap),pointed out a
>jane sibbery thing for christmas,

this deb is quite well, thanks... it's deb reiser who is ill.

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that stands for pretty much nigc, btw (that stands for by the way, fyi (that
stands for for your information))  aaaaaaahhhhh - the stress has exploded my
brain!!!
i am sitting here watching rosie o'donnell, even though i have my last
(thank god(dess)!) final in about one hour.  i think i've gone insane
(gone?)
anyway, i'm catching up on mail, and someone (i forget who) said that they
first saw ig at a dinner show thingy and they were eating chicken.  now, i'm
not asking this to judge, because even this self-proclaimed vegetarian eats
meat occasionally, but i was under the impression that they were vegans (or
at least vegetarians).  am i making this up?  probably, since i make
everything up, or at least i did on my geology final this morning.  speaking
of which, the guy who gave us the exam (no, not the professor - of course,
rob can tell you that it'd be a miracle if i could actually recognize our
professor, since i went to class like four times, but i digress) looked
exactly like steven spielberg's mexican equivalent that mr. burns hired on
the simpsons to make a movie about his life.  exactly!!!  it was scary!!!
(rob, don't worry, i actually have seen this man before, it just never sunk
in.)
i was wearing my sys shirt today (and yesterday - yeah, i know, but everyone
smells during finals) for luck on finals and this cashier girl at the dining
hall this morning asked me if i was at the concert (it took me minute to
remember that i was wearing the shirt and she was not, as i first thought
when she asked me, insane), and i said yes ('cuz i was there).  then she
asked if i had heard a rumor that they weren't getting along and were going
to break up.  i was like, no, i haven't heard that - that can't happen!  how
would life have meaning if that happened?  (shut up, i'm not obsessed)  so
please tell me that she's crazy (as i first thought - see, you should always
go with your first thought, i'm gonna remember that for my accounting exam -
first thought, what the f**k are you talking about - i'm gonna put it
down!), and that they're not gonna break up.

okay, i've rambled enough and i'm prolly gonna get yelled at for the
(almost) total lack of igc and the inordinate amount of parentheses in this
post.  thanks for putting up with me - i'll be unsubscribing tonight
(temporarily, don't worry!  hey, shut up!  no, you shut up!), so i felt the
need to ramble one last time before i leave for a while.
btw, i'm having surgery for an ovarian cyst on saturday, so send your good
thoughts, prayers, vibes, etc., my way if you have a chance.  thanks.

elizabeth


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reply-to:     j nick dickert <nickleby@vt.edu>
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signing off for a few weeks, best wishes over the next couple of weeks

carry on,

nick

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reply-to:     carolyn e turett <ceturett@juno.com>
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subject:      spoof on spoof (my attempt)

well, i feel so very bad that i am intruding on kim's territory, but she
told me to!!  look, i have the proof!  so in a guilty and insecure
fashion i shall dive headfirst into my meager attempts at "humor" . . .

>how bout "secure yourself to santa, hold on tight the night is young.
>fasten up your toys and cookies, you have just begun . . ."
rotflol!!! i *love* it... why don't you write the thing + post it to the
list??? :-) it's lonely out here<g>
>or maybe "the less i seek the source for a parking space, the closer i
am
>to sane . . ."
lol...loved this too... have you and i been shopping at the same
mall?????

(to the tune of secure yourself)

in the wink of an eye i saw you leave
through the cold air i could see you breathe
true to santa i believe
open eyed and fast asleep
flying quickly as the snow
jingle bells ringing in your ears
ragged down from lotsa chapped skin
jolly st nick, have no fear

secure yourself to christmas
hold on tight the night is young
fasten up your toys and cookies
you have just begun

sliding down the chimney hole
alas seemed bigger in his youth
restless to go home and sleep
not to give to those dumb geeks
four feet too tall
the elves do say
allowed to fly permit free
released from jail cuz he's da man
oh my god, don't hit that tree!!!!!

secure yourself to christmas
hold on tight the night is young
fasten up your toys and cookies
you have just begun


hmm, well i tried . . . it's not the same as kim . . . maybe i can get
the other one going, though, but maybe i'd best shut up now.  sorry kim,
i've desecrated the art . . .:)

love,
carolyn!

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>everything up, or at least i did on my geology final this morning.  speaking
>of which, the guy who gave us the exam (no, not the professor - of course,
>rob can tell you that it'd be a miracle if i could actually recognize our
>professor, since i went to class like four times, but i digress) looked
>exactly like steven spielberg's mexican equivalent that mr. burns hired on
>the simpsons to make a movie about his life.  exactly!!!  it was scary!!!

speaking of the simpsons...now that the "movement" to get a ben & jerry's
ice cream flavor named after the indigo girls ("indigo swirls") has died
down, we need to start a movement to get ig to make a guest appearance
on the simpsons...ig could have an anti-nuclear benefit in springfield
that lisa wants to attend...of course, the benefit gets mr. burns all
bent out of shape with obvious "hilarious" consequences.  at the end of the
benefit show, lisa gets to play her saxophone on ctf instead of sara
playing the whistle :)

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according to the lilith web site, they were supposed to
announce the schedule of lilith dates for this summer at
the performance yesterday.  did they?  and if so, can
somebody e-mail them to me or tell me where to find them?
                        thanks,
                        stephanie

stephanie lynne merhar
university of virginia
indigo@virginia.edu
http://faraday.clas.virginia.edu/~slm4b/

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hey yall.  would somebody please post the lyrics to the water is wide?
that would be great.  thanks!

peace,
jordy

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hey all!

   ok, so im sittin' down, it's morning, i'm drinking coffee and readin' the
paper, and to my extreme delight, i see a huge picture of a&e on the front
page of the arts section in the columbus dispatch (i'm talkin' half-o-the
entire page!!!).  now after not finding a single review from the concert a few
weeks ago..i was elated.
   anyway, i thought ya'all might find it interesting..(inspiring) to know,
that after every concert, the food that the girls don't eat, they help wrap up
and then someone takes it to a local homeless shelter!!!  it's actually a
volunteer-driven organization founded by syd mandelbaum called rock and wrap
it up!...i know i shouldn't have been surprised to read this, and i
wasn't...just really proud in a way... the girls are such excellent role
models!!!
    k....that's it...happy holidays to all, and i say we make an all-out
effort to spread some of this beautiful christmas spirit!!!! (before and after
the holidays!)

~meaghan

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hello lovely listees,

well, it's been fun, but seeing as how my e-mail access for the next five
weeks is pretty indefinite, i must be signing off for a time. so sad i'm
gonna miss the next installments in the ig christmas spoofs, but life goes
on, i guess.

y'all have a lovely holiday, whatever it is you celebrate and i shall
return in a month or so.

any listees going to seattle for the 1/22 show, or even 1/23, even though
i'm not gonna be there, hope to run into ya. my seats for thursday night
are in the balcony, row j, seats 3 & 4, i believe. i'll be wearing my
1,200 curfews shirt and the green sots hat. or if you're going and you
wanna meet somewhere, it could be arranged if you e-mail me privately by
friday.

and lynn cardamone, if you're out there somewhere, i've sent you a couple
e-mails and not gotten replies, just want to make sure they got there. if
you could e-mail me privately a.s.a.p., it would be much appreciated.
thanks.

happy holidays, see y'all again in january (unless i decide to post again
before i officially sign off),
amy m.

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               -the goddess, amy ray
"women together is a powerful thing. especially when you join it with
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               -the goddess, emily saliers
"amy is the stuff fantasies are made of, emily is the stuff romantics
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               -the goddess, jill certo

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>   anyway, i thought ya'all might find it interesting..(inspiring) to know,
>that after every concert, the food that the girls don't eat, they help
wrap up
>and then someone takes it to a local homeless shelter!!!  it's actually a
>volunteer-driven organization founded by syd mandelbaum called rock and wrap
>it up!...i know i shouldn't have been surprised to read this, and i

actually, i am soooo glad that they do this because about a year or so ago
someone on the list was working on putting on a ig show at a college or
something and posted the list that they give to the venue about what should
be in the dressing room.  it was ridiculous!!  i don't consume that much
food or drink in a year let alone one night.  i'm sure the crew eats too
and all but i am really glad that hey give that stuff away caue it's a lot!!

btw, could someone post that list of dressing room stuff if they still have
it??

bye
rob
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* "the flesh is strong, the spirit stronger  *
*  so shed your skin, baby, let it through!" *
*                           --amy ray        *
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okay- i just got home with my curve magazine! amy and emily are on the cover-
i wasn't expecting the cover!! can i just say - all you emily fans will love
this cover picture. she looks way hot. inside are great photos, too. many are
pictures we have seen, either in honor materials or in our newsletter (those
of us who have actually received it!) but here they are in color, and bigger.
and gosh, the one of amy standing by herself, showing off her tattoo- no, not
the new one! curve isn't that kind of mag! she's showing the hand on the arm-
it's awesome.

i know someone else- sorry, i forgot who- already posted to the list a snippet
of the article. it is really long- like six full pages of photos and pure
interview!!! way to go curve- we need to reward this magazine!!

it is an interview with amy, and will be continued in their feb. issue. i'm
going to post a different snippet- also in the hopes that i can inspire you to
go out and find then buy this magazine! the last page is a reader's survey,
due in by february 28th, 1998, where the editor is specifically asking
readers- like us- for  info on what we want to see more of. hint, hint.

okay, all typos are mine. without permission--... i'm picking up more than
half way through the article---

...curve: when you wrote about your honor the earth '95 experience in the
journal indigenous woman, you refer to the song 'shed your skin.' it seems
there's an intertwining of the message of activism and shedding your skin.

amy: i wrote 'shed your skin' after my breakup as a song to my ex-girlfriend
about how important it is to go do your thing and celebrate it and celebrate
yourself. the growth we experience through all that pain is really important.
the indian stuff enters into it because it was happening at the same time and
there were some of the same sentiments. my dedication to activism took away
from my relationship. i found it important to say, 'look, what i've been
involved with has given me some freedom in my heart and soul that i've never
experienced. you should find the same thing.'

curve: that song is my favorite on shaming of the sun. do you have a personal
favorite?

amy: well, 'scooter boys and argentinians' was a really important moment for
me. it was completely improv. i hadn't finished the song. emily didn't know it
at all, andy stochansky [ani difranco's drummer] was playing drums with us
that day and had never heard it. we just started playing and all of a sudden
we got into this groove. i said, 'turn the tape recorder on,' and we recorded
it- that's the song you hear on the album. so there are sentimental reasons
why that song is really close to me, i also love 'everything in it's own time'
because it's so different. the writing style reminds me of old emily, when we
first met. it's a certain kind of ballad- melodramatic, with hispanic-sounding
chord changes. she used to write more like that in the old days, when we were
first playing together.

.... followed by a page of discussion about ani, touring together, the issue
of collaborating with her to write music. there's also lots of talk about
being gay, being out, college, friends, solo music projects...

...curve: there's always the question, were you and emily ever involved?
amy: no. everybody always asks that but no one believes me. you think we would
have stayed together this long if we'd ever been involved in a relationship?
no way. [laughs]...

the article is really long, a great job by the magazine so far. trust me-
you'll want this magazine. huge article, lots of great pictures (way better
than the acoustic guitar magazine photos) i know it may be awkward for some of
those straight listees to buy one of 'our' magazines, but c'mon, it's for the
girls!!

email me privately if you need any more info about the article. i bought mine
at barnes and noble, actually went in last week and had them reserve me a copy
cause it's not even on the shelves here yet and it's the december issue!
~peace and all things indigo~leah

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jordy asked for the lyrics to water is wide. please help me if i make a
mistake...

water is wide

the water is wide i can't cross o'er
and neither i have wings to fly
give me a boat that can carry two
and both shall row
my love and i.

love is gentle
and love is kind
the sweetest flower
when first its new
but love grows old
and waxes cold
and fades away
like morning dew
~~~
there is a ship
she sails the seas
she's loaded deep
as deep can be
but not as deep
as the love i'm in
i know not how
to sink or swim

chorus:
..and both shall row
my love and i.

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> >  chickenman - the quintessential amy song evolved beyond
> >               all recognition
>
> i think maybe they're wearing this one thin... time to substitute
> "1-2-3,"
> "pushing the needle too far," "touch me fall," or a good cover that
> amy can rock out to... as much as they've shifted their set list this
> year, i don't
> recall seeing a show without "chickenman."
>
i do, but my addled brain can't remember whether it was au or penn state
that they didn't play it- penn state i think...and i didn't get to hear
ptn or tmf this year...on the other hand, scooter boys is coming along
quite nicely as an soc song...

re hearing ig on the radio: the store i work in always has an 80s/90s
mix station playing (except for today when they had melissa etheridge's
yes i am and reel big fish on repeat all afternoon - the boys were
having a lesbian song day...) anyway, on that station, not a single
afternoon has gone by all semester when i didn't hear shame on you. it
got to be a kind of daily ritual, waiting for them to play it...i'm one
of those people who doesn't like it when they get too popular and people
go to see them just for one song (the riding team was standing about ten
people behind me at umbc - none of them knew the music, they went as a
team bonding thang) but it definitely makes my afternoon brighter when i
hear those first chords...

sarah (who only has 1 exam and 1/2 paper left to write, but has an
excuse to be on e-mail right now, really, since she just got back from a
harrowing trip downtown where she got totally lost trying to find her
way back to the highway having dropped a friend off at work, and somehow
ended up in san francisco, cause shes never seen a hill that steep in
baltimore before, and she rolled back and nearly squashed the poor
little car behind her and a 15 minute drive took an hour)

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in a message dated 97-12-17 16:50:45 est, skippeec write:

<< someone (i forget who) said that they
first saw ig at a dinner show thingy and they were eating chicken. >>

chicken? well, the first time i saw the girls in concert was 1992 in my
hometown buffalo, new york. after the concert while driving home we saw their
tour bus- (this old silver and turquios thing- any of y'all remember that from
way, way back??) anyway, the bus was parked right out in front of the anchor
bar on main street. for you ani fans, that's right down the street from her
current headquarters.

anyway, the anchor bar is the home of the original buffalo chicken wings-
that's right- a local attraction as it is the place where hot buffalo wings
were first created oh so many years ago. so, were the wings just for the crew?
dunno, but i think the  girls- actually amy cause emily still eats meat,
right?- became a vegan just a few years ago. i don't think she was earlier in
the decade. anyone have ig chicken stories to tell?

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here's the latest from the epic site which we all know about....but it doesn't
mention any dates in the bay area in jan which makes me wonder since emily
said in a interview recently that they would be playing west coast dates when
they return from australia in feb.  anyone have any recent info on the
supposed san francisco concerts in jan?


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<< indigo girls tour update

thu    01/22           seattle, wa                     paramount theater
fri    01/23           seattle, wa                     paramount theater
sat    01/24           portland, or            rose garden
fri    01/30           los angeles, ca         universal amphitheater
sun    02/01           san diego,  ca          rimac arena/ucsd >>


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indigo girls tour update

thu     01/22           seattle, wa                     paramount theater
fri     01/23           seattle, wa                     paramount theater
sat     01/24           portland, or            rose garden
fri     01/30           los angeles, ca         universal amphitheater
sun     02/01           san diego,  ca          rimac arena/ucsd

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in a message dated 97-12-17 18:20:20 est, slm4b@server1.mail.virginia.edu
writes:

<< according to the lilith web site, they were supposed to
announce the schedule of lilith dates for this summer at
the performance yesterday.  did they?  and if so, can
somebody e-mail them to me or tell me where to find them? >>


they didn't say anything onstage, but i understand that mtv news was there, so
possibly they had a press conference or something of that sort. keep an eye on
the week in rock this coming weekend, maybe it'll say something. and there's
always the website. if anyone does find out, please post the info. :)

rick
*every step i took in faith betrayed me*
*i have the sense to realize i don't know how to let you go*
-sarah wisdom

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first off... yay carolyn!!! loved yer "spoof on a spoof"... ya done good:-)
me... i had a bad day... got soaked in yet another down pour... will it ever
stop raining???? anyways... here be the resulting vent...
i know all you pnw-ers will relate...
cause it's written with us  soggy west coasters in mind:-)
( to the tune of it's all right )

on christmas night
christmas night
and it's pouring rain
my coat is soaked and i feel insane
it'd be nice to see some white stuff fallin'
on christmas night
on christmas night bumbershoots away
put them in the closet
put em there to stay
to see a snow plow comin' round our way
on christmas night!!!
i look at the puddles stretched way all across the land...
i look at the useless tobbogon leaning up 'gainst my ol' bike stand
and for every leaky spot
i need two emptied out tin cans
that's why i'm still on a search,
pray "good weather" in church
as i play musical tin cans
on christmas night
on christmas night how i worry and fuss
will santa land on our dump
roof's fatigued with the rust
if he gives it a push
the thing is likely to bust
on christmas night
our colored lights in the rain just look that much queerer
given snow we could see them clearer
snow danced hard as i could and am wet as last year
on christmas night
i look at the puddles stretched way all across the land
and i look at the drizzling misery that gets to me no matter where i stand
it snowed last fall by the way
but didn't stick long
it made it worse
cause that just made more water
we 'bout gave it all up as we floated along
t'wards christmas night
yeah christmas night
on christmas night though i feel afraid
and sacks of sand 'round my house i've layed
the west wall might give way
the walls may give way
the walls of the only only house that has not washed into the bay
on christmas night...

okay... i'm going away fer the weekend so i promise not to write any more of
this schtuff for at least a week:-)
peace all... kim
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does anyone have the guitar music for wiw????

thanks

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any new word on where our girls rank? :)

- rick

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well, gee, i'm flattered by all of the well dones i've gotten . . . and
kim isn't gonna be here for awhile, so maybe tomorrow i'll have to go for
my spoof -- closer to sane (though i'm not feeling too close right now!)
i'll ponder that one tomorrow during government (there's nothing better
to do in there anyhoo, plus i sit next to another ig fan) and we shall
see what i come up with.  have a nice night!!

love,
carolyn!

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no chickenman at any of the shows in maine this year

(yes kiddies i believe this is true - i know not at penobscot or bafes and i
don't remember one at colby.)

i think they both ate vegetarian at penobscot - i think i remember them both
eating veggies - i know the food was really good!

boston security was tight - i didn't take my camera in and i'm kinda glad,
although i did have a spare roll of 36 exposure 3200 speed film in my
bag..that's like a miracle from god or something. oh, did i mention all my
legal ig digital photos were deleted off my hard drive (the ones i took at
bates and penobscot...i may have them on my 80 meg hd that i took
out..doubtful tho.)

i haven't checked my boot of boston tho i know i had some problems so i may
ask another friend (not a current listee, i don't think) if his tape came
out. again - dianne is the most elusive human i've ever witnessed at a show
- i was right next to her - it was incredible to see..

i hate finals week - this six year undergrad degree has it's drawbacks -
finals are one of them!

but in brighter (oh god here comes the comment on the holiday album) news,
remember how amy putnam told everyone about windham hill compliations being
really cool - well they are ! (no big news there) but they also have a tour
this time of year and....it's at my school tomorrow night - i know liz story
(not liz turcotte, but i'd be psyched to see her play here as well) is
playing- rush tixs are 5 dollars - should be a great show - very little
press here so if y'all want to drive to orono (five hours one way north of
boston - maybe 5 from montreal as well) there will be plenty of seats. but
one could also arrange socks in their drawer as the trip north is incredibly
boring.....
happy holidays, solistice, etc. to all-
peace

mike r.

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i was so excited about finally getting this curve magazine article that i
posted my last note before i took a good look at the cover photograph. amy is
wearing an open red jacket over a black mesh jersey- yes, that's right- mesh.
open mesh, nothing on underneath. yes, it is what you're thinking, and yes,
you can see the tattoo and a whole lotta chest too. and abdomen, and stomach,
and... well, i guess curve is that kinda magazine after all!

oh my, now how will i sleep?????

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dear emily and amy,

        i have been a fan of your music for several years now.  as i have grown
emotionally from the end of adolescents into young adulthood, i feel that a
lot of your songs and lyrics have chronicled my life. thanks for relating
and understanding life's trials and tribulations so poignantly.  keep up
the humor.  hope all goes well for you both in 1998.  would love to see you
come to kentucky!


                                        mary beth fuller

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>any new word on where our girls rank? :)
>
>- rick
15th i think, at least last time i checked.... that is fairly good!!

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at 10:14 pm 12/17/97 -0500, mary beth fuller wrote:
>dear emily and amy,
>
>        i have been a fan of your music for several years now...  <snip>
i just love it when fans post here, thinking they are reaching the girls...
kind of warms the heart...
does anyone else post them back + explain kindly that nut uh... they aren't
reaching the girl's via some special cyber-fan-e-mail system???
hope yer all bein nice... santa's watching:-) ( so i've been told )
peace all... kim
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i just went and checked and the girls are in 15th with 473 votes,
beating the spice girls 71 !!! but hanson is winning with a strong 2949
along with jenny mccarthy in 7th her 1386 votes!!!! :( (what is our
world comming to!!) a few other notes amy ray in 88th place with 34
votes, folowed be sarah m. heading up the rear in 97th with 24 votes.
  not bad!!!
     betsy

"you have to laugh at yourself because you'd cry your eyes out if you
didn't" emily sailers

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t 07:28 pm 12/17/97 -0800, you wrote:
does anyone else post them back + explain kindly that nut uh... they aren't
>reaching the girl's via some special cyber-fan-e-mail system???
>hope yer all bein nice... santa's watching:-) ( so i've been told )

as a matter of fact, i've been very nice.  remember that poor girl who posted
yesterday about her friend who is such a big fan and she wanted to get him
a really nice ig-related gift, but she said she was *broke* right now?
i emailed her back and explained that the list is just a bunch of us fans
who like to keep up with the girls, and that her message was not actually
going to ig.  i also offered her some boots for her friend as a gift, so she's
sending me the blanks to dub them on.  i sent her my bootlist and even made
suggestions on which ones i thought would make good choices.  so that's
my good samaritan story!  i kinda felt sorry for her.  she seems like a
really sweet girl and she just wants to do something special for her friend.

i don't know about anyone else (if they ever write back to these *mistake
makers*, but i just feel like if it was me doing that, i'd appreciate it
someone
being nice enough to (kindly) explain what the deal is.

that's just my 2 cents,
leigh ann

p.s.  i even told her i'd wrap them in christmas paper since she's addressing
the return envelope straight to him.  :)  (aren't i sweet?)

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leigh ann:-) you went way beyond the call o' duty... i think santa oughta be
bringing *you* one hugely special present this year:-)
peace + lotsa smiles... kim
at 10:49 pm 12/17/97 -0500, leigh ann wrote:

>as a matter of fact, i've been very nice.  remember that poor girl who posted
>yesterday about her friend who is such a big fan and she wanted to get him
>a really nice ig-related gift <snippity snippity...>
>... i also offered her some boots for her friend as a gift.... so that's
>my good samaritan story! .....
>p.s.  i even told her i'd wrap them in christmas paper since she's addressing
>the return envelope straight to him.  :)  (aren't i sweet?)
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hey sharon~

        i still can't get through your server for some reason.  i'm not
having trouble with anyone else's addy.
        anyway, your answer is correct and you presently lead game 1 with a
total score of $20,800!  thanks for playing.

tony

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where can i fynd this mag?

thanx

j&t

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i was walking through my work the other day and saw a girl wearing an
indigo's shaming of the sun shirt.  her name was amy.  so, i got to
wondering if she was on this list by any chance.  i have not gotten a
chance to talk to her yet.  so if your name is amy and you work at honda
in marysville, ohio , let me know.  if you don't . . . just pretend you
never got this message.

thanx

j&t

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i was at the news conference at lilith. they didn't say anything about dates
for next summer. i do know the  girls have been signed to do three weeks,
mainly out west, definitely in seattle as well as other cities they didnt play
last time.

they did make some lilith announcements ... possible europe tour etc. i'm
filing some stories to addicted to noise in a bit....check their website for
lilith news and a review of the show....i think there might still be a preview
of the show i did up there too. had a little ig content...

www.addict.com

amy was at the news conference, by the way. she didnt say very much. their set
rocked.

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>we need to start a movement to get ig to make a guest appearance
>on the simpsons...ig could have an anti-nuclear benefit in >springfield
that lisa wants to attend...of course, the benefit gets >mr. burns all
bent out of shape with obvious "hilarious" >consequences.  at the end of
the benefit show, lisa gets to play her >saxophone on ctf instead of
sara playing the whistle :)

i say this is brilliant!  we need to forward this idea to matt groening.
just think: another chance for burnsy and smithers to
dance around their "relationship" (?)
i love this concept!  who knows matt groening's url?
nic

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my brother has on his christmas list n. exposure tapes.  does anyone have any
that they would be willing to rush dub for me so that i could give them to him
for christmas?  email me privately at chiqhiker@aol.com.

thanks!

anne

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this was intended for the list...

-----original message-----
from: jayne fox <jfox@holycross.edu>
to: indigo@mindspring.com <indigo@mindspring.com>
date: wednesday, december 17, 1997 4:41 pm
subject: re:breakup rumors


>exerpt from  billboard article 3/29/97-----------------
>
>...ray and saliers just want to play. even when  they're not prepping for
>an  album or a tour, they're finding their way... into some
>extracurricular musical venture. ...both ray and saliers spent  a portion
>of last year in bands with fellow atlanta musicians.....
>
> "we do it just for fun," says ray, ... "it's not like we're going to break
up
>what we're doing as a team. that seems as solid now as it ever has
>been."
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>jayne

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jordy waller <jordow@creighton.edu> wrote:

>hey yall.  would somebody please post the lyrics to the water is wide?
>that would be great.  thanks!

it's at the lifeblood archive with all the other lyrics... the url for this
song in particular is <ftp://www.hidwater.com/hw/ig/lyrics/water.txt>.  the
tabs are at olga:
<http://music.lsds.com/guitar/m/misc_traditional/the_water_is_wide.tab>

=-=-=-=

re: ig on the simpsons: anything's possible... ani's going to be on "king of
the hill' on may 10!

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chiqhiker@aol.com wrote:
>my brother has on his christmas list n. exposure tapes.  does anyone have any
>that they would be willing to rush dub for me so that i could give them to
him
>for christmas?  email me privately at chiqhiker@aol.com.

these are available for purchase at your local video store, or at
http://www.cdnow.com for $14.49 (click the movie link at the top of the page
and then search for "northern exposure" to see all the titles.  cdnow is doing
free express shipping until xmas.

=-=-=-=
re: vegetarianism...
amy said on a las cruces, nm boot from earlier this year that she's
vegetarian.  it was pretty funny... she was talking about how she found some
great cave hiking that day... emily said one day she'd show up for soundcheck,
and amy wouldn't be there, she'd be living in a cave <g>.  a guy in the
audience shouted "i'll hunt your food for you!"  to which amy replied, "it
wouldn't be hard, i'm a vegetarian." lol!

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tigger, your card kicks butt!!!   i love it!  what a computer genius you
are!!  joan...i loved yours too, a picture to go with a name...cool
everyone...thanks so much.

peace,
karen, (who now has an eggplant shaped elbow)

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hey all you folks up in the baahston & n.e. area-

songstreet productions is having it's :

   6th annual funny songwriter festival

   sat, jan 10, 1998 7pm

   sommerville theater, davis sq

this year's lineup: don white
                    ratsy
                    john forster
                    peter lehndorf

'the boston globe' calls it: "furiously funny... " & "often
uproarious... "
check out today's 'globe' (12/18) - 'calendar' p.28 "future shot"

also: feb 21, 1998 - songstreet presents ellis paul & patty griffin

      mar 21, 1998 - 6th annual songstreet festival of women
                     songwriters

songstreet's web page:
<http://www.tiac.net/users/thirdshf/songstreet.html>
phone info: (617)628-3390

songstreet's producer, rick lamacchia, is a good friend and a great guy,
& songstreet needs all the support it can get. in the past he has hosted
kristen hall in somerville several times.
if you go to these, or any future shows, tell rick that melanie in
atlanta says hi!

okay, end of band-width waste...   :o)

peace, happy, joy, love, indigo...

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date:         thu, 18 dec 1997 12:01:06 -0500
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i know a lot of you play guitar, and i was wondering if anyone knows
anything about (or owns) a charvel acoustic.  i can only find info on
their electrics.  how much do they usually run in price etc... help would
be appreciated.
mc

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date:         thu, 18 dec 1997 12:01:41 -0500
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well at the big show here in columbus em said she was "sorta" a vegan but
she sometimes eats meat (i have the exact quote on tape <thanks meghan> if
y'all want it), and amy said she was. this was dec 1 1997.
hope this helps.

at 07:23 pm 12/17/97 -0500, terrilee11 wrote:
>
>anyway, the anchor bar is the home of the original buffalo chicken wings-
>that's right- a local attraction as it is the place where hot buffalo wings
>were first created oh so many years ago. so, were the wings just for the
crew?
>dunno, but i think the  girls- actually amy cause emily still eats meat,
>right?- became a vegan just a few years ago. i don't think she was earlier in
>the decade. anyone have ig chicken stories to tell?
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heathera

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hello everyone-

i have some info (finally) on the ig show in phoenix!

indigo girls
union hall
feb. 4th 8pm
tickets are available through the union hall box office:  602-253-7100
or dillards box office:  602-503-5555
and will be on sale 12-27-97 at 10a.m. mst.

they play in san diego on the 1st of february...does anyone have any
idea what they're doing on the 2nd and 3rd?  maybe spending time in
yuma? (if you've been there, you'll understand the humor in that
statement!)

i'll post the address and directions closer to the date.

:-)

jan

(bf...will you be flying here to join me?)

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date:         thu, 18 dec 1997 12:12:35 -0500
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. judge granted gay couples wednesday the same status as heterosexual
couples in adopting children. in an out-of-court settlement of a class
action suit filed in june by the american civil liberties union on behalf
of gay and lesbian families, superior co urt judge sybil moses cleared the
way for gay or lesbian couples to adopt children jointly. gay people in
n.j., as well as about half the nation's states, are allowed to adopt
children, but a partner or "spouse" had to petition separately, resulting
in ex tensive delays and legal costs.

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is the new curve at news stands yet? i mean should i run out at lunch
and get it so i can see amy's shirt...(or lack there of?)

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hey folks -

ticketmaster changed their minds and the ig show at the rose garden will be
going onsale this saturday at 9:00, an hour earlier than they said last week.

there was a big full page ad in the willamette week advertising it as the
shaming of the sun "duo tour," which says to me there won't be a backup
band...  nice ad, though.

hope everyone survives finals (my last one is at 6:00 tonight, and then i'll
be 1/6 of the way through law school), and has safe travel if you're headed
anywhere.

kevin

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does anyone have any thoughts on this song that they would like to share?  i
love it but unfortunately i'm not completely capable of the type of abstract,
analytical thinking that it takes to decypher the whole thing.  either that or
finals have really gotten to me.
love,
molly o+

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since i have nothing better to do at work...i scanned in the pictures
from the curve article. i got a *bit* excited from the description of
amy's shirt from the big list...but of course its not as great in
reality as it was in my head!!

enjoy...pictures are a little big so be patient =)
http://www.csg-soft.com/newtest/lynda/mypages/ig/curve.html

~lynda

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date:         thu, 18 dec 1997 14:46:42 -0600
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on thu, 18 dec 1997, lynda wrote:

> since i have nothing better to do at work...i scanned in the pictures
> from the curve article. i got a *bit* excited from the description of
> amy's shirt from the big list...but of course its not as great in
> reality as it was in my head!!

wow...(i'm excited...)

you just made my day.

good pics. 'definitely like the cover.<g>

-sarah in st. louis

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hmd is kind of abstract but amy is pretty literal so i took a stab at what i
think it's about --- any other takers ?
jayne
-------------------------------------------------------------
i see it as being about relationships and how blame is used in them

amy's broken many relationships - blamed her lovers to justify this
(followed so many down - hand me downs)
and hoped that good and growth would result from the pain (that
emptiness brings fullness)

she talks about her mixed nature - bad (i believe...) and good (i love...)
and blaming her lover for the faults within herself and probably not giving
her lover the benefit of the doubt she gave to herself (what's wrong
with you....)

but  her lover is leaving for someone else
(you swear you can't swim the river but i saw you running to jump in)
and is blaming amy for the breakup (i swore i'd never be your sinner til i
held your sin)

amy becomes the one blamed to justify the breakup -- maybe accepts it
to hold on to her lover  (i've become the beggar now)
but she is trying to hold on to the relationship out of fear (i'm scared its
fear)

she is saying they have done the same thing
(twist the words... tripping in our yellow feet ...)
using blame to justify,  trying to hang on out of fear
going for the new lover (checking underneath our sheets for some
hope...)

in the chorus amy starts by saying she has hope when she is the one
leaving early in the song  but as the one left later in the song she has to
ask for the hope that all this pain will end up being for the best ---
that you need to experience emptiness and have your heart broken in
order to grow and become a whole person

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does anyone have any info on tickets for ig in tucson? i will be there (from
nj) that week and i would love to see them.

please send me any info you have.

thanks!

-dani

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date:         thu, 18 dec 1997 17:06:52 -0500
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subject:      a better spoof (kim would be proud)

ok, as somebody who has bought a total of 2 presents so far, i feel very
qualified to be writing this one.  so picture if you will . . . a typical
mall parking lot and mall crowd.  people are turning into linebackers . .
. shoving their way through the mall.  but wait . . . instead of the
usual brass ensemble (and i am by no means dissing brass groups . . . i
play trombone!!) there in the mall entertaining you with festive tunes,
amy and emily are singing.  suddenly your crappy day is looking a whole
lot better . . .
anyhoo, enjoy this one and have a happie day!!!

love,
carolyn!!!

(to the tune of closer to fine)
closer to sane

i'm trying to tell you somethin' bout shopping
maybe give you hints or maybe 2 or 3
and the best thing you've ever done for me
is remind me to leave for the mall early
it's christmastime, afterall
now macy's has a sale that's irresistable
and hecht's is going crazy with red dots
i wrapped my courage round me like a blanket
and ran to my car so that i could get
the perfect christmas gift

i went to the mall
twas big as a mountain
i shoved through the crowd
i rest near the fountain
but there's more than just one problem getting there
especially in the rain
and the less i seek a source for a parking space
closer i am to sane . . . yeah

i went to see the sweaters in the thrifty store
had a 10% off sign but still i wanted more
i always did hurry
cuz shopping was a bore
i graded my performance
as i walked out the door
i spent 4 weeks prostrate to the harsh mall gods
i got my presents
i was free!

i went to the mall
twas big as a mountain
i shoved through the crowd
i rest near the fountain
but there's more than just one problem getting there
especially in the rain
and the less i seek a source for a parking space
closer i am to sane . . .

i stopped by the mall at 3 am
to seek fewer crowds,shorter lines, and possibly some womyn
but i woke up real delerious -- it'd only been a dream
empty malls are so unreal, i thought that i would scream
and i stopped to gain my sanity

i went to the mall
twas big as a mountain
i shoved through the crowd
i rest near the fountain
but there's more than just one problem getting there
especially in the rain
and the less i seek a source for a parking space
closer i am to sane . . .

we go to the toy stores, we go through the workout
we read up on the hot gifts, we stay up on the lookout
there's more than just one problem getting there
especially in the rain
and the less i seek a source for a parking space
the closer i am to sane
the closer i am to sane
the closer i am to sane . . .

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date:         thu, 18 dec 1997 15:59:56 -0700
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made my day too.

y'all are right. those pictures are to die for. wow. i cannot wait until
it finally comes out on newsstands here and i have the hard copy in my
hot little hands.

amy m.

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"we are not empty-headed celebrities."
               -the goddess, amy ray
"women together is a powerful thing. especially when you join it with
music."
               -the goddess, emily saliers
"amy is the stuff fantasies are made of, emily is the stuff romantics
yearn for."
               -the goddess, jill certo

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did anyone boot this?????  please let me know.  i'd kill for a rockin in the
free world.
lori

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hey folks,

this is forwarded from don richards (donrich@neo.lrun.com) - it
got bounced from the list address twice for geek reasons. :)

cheers,
sherlyn


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i tried to send this to the list yesterday but it never showed up so
here it is again in response to rob's request.
--------------------------------------------------------------

subject:
         ig dressing room rider
   date:
         tue, 15 apr 1997 15:28:30 -0500

well, i just got back from helping prepare the ig and lift dressing
rooms
for the psu show today.  i thought some of you might be interested
seeing
what the girls require for their dressing room while on tour.  so,
before i
head back, here it is, word for word:

indigo girls performance rider (revised 2/97)

dressing room catering

to be placed in the indigo girls dressing room at 3:30pm.  please
purchase
foods at a natural/health foods store.  when available, please use
organically grown fresh vegetables and fruits.  no nabisco products.
clean
china and stainless steel cutlery will be provided along with clean
glasses.  unwaxed paper cups may be used as an alternative.

1 vegetable tray for sandwiches (for 2) to include the following:

fresh sliced carrots (lots)
1 seedless sliced cucumber
1 sliced tomato
sliced dill pickles
1 bowl humus
a natural herbal dip
please use organic vegetables when possible

1 large bag each:

non-fat potato chips
non-fat pretzels
non-fat corn chips
non-fat blue corn chips (regular may be substituted for those only)
zapp's potato chips (jalapeno or cajun flavor)(optional)

1 bag whole wheat pita bread
6 fresh bagels (plain, sesame or poppyseed only- no raisin, blueberry,
etc.
1 small tub of non-fat bean dip
1 small tub of light cream cheese
1 bowl fresh salsa
2 granny smith apples
2 red delicious apples
3 bananas
2 oranges
assorted herbal teas (caffeine free) and english breakfast caffeine tea
1 box medicinal "throat coat" tea
sliced lemon, sugar, honey, cream for tea
1 six pack diet ginger ale
1 six pack coke classic
1 six pack diet coke
24 1.5 liter bottles of spring water from local spring water company
(please don't bottle yourself)
3 23oz glass bottles perrier water
1 pint natural apple juice or fresh orange juice
1 bottle gatorade light (if you can't find it, get regular)
6 assorted hanson's or corrs natural sodas
6 bottles assorted fruit spritzer
36 bath towels (must be pre-washed)
1 water kettle to boil water only (without coffee smell)
fresh coffee and tea service
inwaxed recycled paper cups, plates, bowls- no styrofoam
cloth or recycled paper napkins
stainless steel cutlery
local newspaper and weekly entertainment magazine
new york times paper
6 local post cards with stamps

well, there it is.  that is for the indigo girls and their band alone.
the
crew, and lift are totally separate lists (and a lot less demanding, i
might add).  a little birdie told me that this list has become a lot
longer
and more specific in the last few years.  we'll see how much gets used.
as
often is the case, there is much left untouched (sheryl crow/wallflowers
had the untouched food taken to the food bank).  to those of you seeing
the
show, enjoy!

mike
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date:         thu, 18 dec 1997 19:53:15 -0800
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subject:      new york concert

hello,

i just recently called the virginia slams folks and volunteered my time
to help, as i'm currently in the fun yet stressful state of unemployment.
anyway, just wanted to know if anyone else out there will be helping
out.  apparantly they also need help on this documentary, but i don't
have any more specific details on that....i just got the message via my
roommate.

the concert date is still not certain, sometime between february and
march.  if i find anything out, i'll be sure to post, but it seems that
you guys get the info way before me!

on a different topic, i was at the boston concert, too!  it was awesome.
i bought a hat.  yeah!!!  i was sitting in the last row of the orchestra
but had binoculars, which helped immensely.

that's it!
holly

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date:         thu, 18 dec 1997 20:00:49 -0500
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subject:      a growing addiction

ok, so now that kim got me started on this i can't seem to stop.  and so
i was thinkin' bout the typical story of the parent who can't put
together a bike for his/her kid, and i was inspired.  and so though i
have no experience here (no kids for me at 17) i'm going out on a limb.
i swear, this is the last one (well, at least for tonite . . . i haven't
gotten hate mail yet!)  but anyhoo, picture, if you will, amy trying to
put together a bike (perhaps a *scooter*???) . . .

(to da tune of blood and fire)

i have spent nights with wrenches and bikes
leaning over bike parts stacked two flights up
starting to freak, ripping my hair
and this part goes where???
no time to do anything but perspire

you have spent nights trying to read
all the directions in japanese
leaving me tired, leaving me screwed
hoping i'd learn

but all these bike parts
are too much for the fried brain to get
and my dreams of sleeping are callling me
but it won't happen, so i bet
and i'm calling customer service, and i'm calling customer service
from 10 000 miles away
won't you tell me how to put on the tire . . .

i'm looking for someone who can put together this thing
use all of the parts
and still make the bell ding
i am wiped out, i am in need
i am desparate, i need some help
i feel forsaken, like the parts i've thrown away

but all these bike parts
are too much for the fried brain to get
and my dreams of sleeping are callling me
but it won't happen, so i bet
and i'm calling customer service, and i'm calling customer service
from 10 000 miles away
won't you tell me how to put on the tire . . .

i am wiped out, i am in need, i am desparate, i need some help
i am wiped out, i am in need, i am desparate, i need some help
i am wiped out, i am in need, i am desparate, i need some help

but all these bike parts
are too much for the fried brain to get
and my dreams of sleeping are callling me
but it won't happen, so i bet
and i'm calling customer service, and i'm calling customer service
from 10 000 miles away
won't you tell me how to put on the tire . . .


g'night y'all . . .
love, carolyn!

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in a message dated 97-12-17 22:33:30 est, rcn@prcn.org writes:

<< does anyone else post them back + explain kindly that nut uh... they aren't
reaching the girl's via some special cyber-fan-e-mail system??? >>
i usually don't post back to miguided fan postings, but i did to mary beth's
since she's a fellow kentuckian!  maybe i'll persuade her to join us!

ya'll behave

bonnie

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hi everyone,
just joined the list and have a quick question to start.
i'm a big luka bloom fan and was wondering what album/boot does luka sing
backing vocals for amy & emily on "closer to fine"
thanks.

ck

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...the page someone put together of everyone's tapelists.  can you send
it to me please?  thanks bunches!

dianne

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never mind.  found it.  i knew it was on deb's page somewhere.  <g>

dianne

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my roommate and i were having a discussion about what the last verse of
leeds (hold my head love, i'm sick tonight... that one) means.  i don't
know if it's been discussed recently or not.. sorry if it has.  but i
was thinking that she was feeling lonely and missing her gf cuz she's
alone in the hotel room and watching depressing stuff on tv.  she feels
like there's something missing (open hole) cuz they're apart.  she's
crying (spirit bleeding) and wants to be held by the one that she loves
so she'll feel complete and her "hole" will be filled.  sound cool?  i
know it's simplified, but i'm usually not very good at interpretation,
hence my english grade, and i'm wondering if i'm on the right track.  my
roommate is even worse!  she trying to go literal with it and it's so
not working.  what does everyone else think?  btw, i'm new.  it's nice
to meet you all :)

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hey kind friends,

i know this is a super computer-literate list and wondered if someone could
help me out with using a unix ftp program.

i need to transfer some simple files from my hard drive to my school
internet account.  i don't know exactly how to specify the correct remote
host pathname, etc.  these are files for my first web page, on which i hope
to have some ig-related materials!

any input is greatly appreciated!

erin

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hey all,

just wanted to share, if anyone needs to e-mail me during the holiday
break, please send to: mickeyq@usa.net

she's my alterego. she'll take care of it for me. :0)

that address will be checked periodically, but not regularly and hopefully
often, but you never can tell. so, send stuff there if you must send
stuff. or you could send it here, but i won't get it for a month or so.

amy m.

p.s. lynn, hate to keep harping on you, but did you get the e-mail i sent
ya today? i'm paranoid now, just wanted to check. nothing urgent, just
curious. :0)

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               -the goddess, amy ray
"women together is a powerful thing. especially when you join it with
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"amy is the stuff fantasies are made of, emily is the stuff romantics
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okay, so now that i'm away from my school account and can't do anything
about adding them to the chartreuse girls pages, everyone is writing
incredible parodies!  as soon as i can after i get back (first week of
january) i'll be sure to add them.  my, aren't we a creative, irreverent
group of people!

the chartreuse girls web page can be found at:
http://narnia.emu.edu/students/creechal/parodies.htm

:)
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jill chambers wrote:

>last verse of
>leeds (hold my head love, i'm sick tonight... that one) means.  ...
> but i was thinking that she was feeling lonely and missing her gf cuz she's
>alone in the hotel room and watching depressing stuff on tv.  she feels
>like there's something missing (open hole) cuz they're apart.  she's
>crying (spirit bleeding) and wants to be held by the one that she loves
>so she'll feel complete and her "hole" will be filled.  sound cool?  i
>know it's simplified, but i'm usually not very good at interpretation,
>hence my english grade, and i'm wondering if i'm on the right track.  my
>roommate is even worse!  she trying to go literal with it and it's so
        >not working.  what does everyone else think?

hey, welcome aboard!

i'm glad you brought this up.  in the 3 or 4 weeks that i've been on this list, it hasn't been discussed.

i had always taken this verse quite literally, in a graphically sexual way, which made it rather difficult for me to listen to, having considered myself straight until very recently  (my new gf is wonderful, by the way, for those who may recall a previous post of mine).   even now, your interpretation is a little more palatable to me, because it has some metaphorical content.

any other insights into this verse?

peace,
barb

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okay, so i don't totally hate them, but i'm very upset right now. the
local station is going to be giving away tickets to the portland ig
concert in january. so we all know what that means...all the really good
seats will be gone before i can even say hi to the ticketmaster person on
saturday morning. damn, i hate the politics of radio stations giving away
tickets to a reserved seating concert. i'm wondering now if the tickets i
buy on saturday will be any good or if i'm going to spend the next week
within reach of a phone and a radio in order to be close to our beloved
girls. i envy all of you who are able to get good seats (translation: in
the first 5 rows). wish me luck.
-sam (who wants to see this totally cool card that tigger made and
everyone loves)

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concerning the last verse of leeds, i've always taken it pretty
literally...the entire song sympathizes with a suicidal person:  the lyrics
speak of a person struggling to get through every day(beating back a path
through nothing more than pure insistence...) despite the overwhelming sense
that it is empty (absent sound of another day...)of goodness (evil...the
stronger half of nature's dichotomy). she feels trapped and the only way to
stop the madness seems to be inertia, lack of movement, death. so i see the
last verse as a cry for help.  whether the open hole and bleeding spirit be
a slit wrist and blood or just a metaphor for giving up the will to live,
she's asking to be saved, she's asking for a sign from someone she loves, a
reason to live. i'd love to hear other interpretations though!

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jill chambers wrote about the last verse of leeds:

<<she feels
like there's something missing (open hole) cuz they're apart.  she's
crying (spirit bleeding) and wants to be held by the one that she loves
so she'll feel complete and her "hole" will be filled. >>

i absolutely love this song, and that last verse is my favorite.  i think that
the spirit bleeding is a reference to her general dispair with the world and
the way she sees evil "creeping" around her.  she was in another country and
probably feeling quite lonely when this was written. but on top of this she's
seeing the stories on the news about the burning churches in the south and
this probably puts her into a deeper sort of depression.  she feels the spirit
and life drain out of her because more because of her disillusionment with the
world than of her lonliness, or at least that's a big part of it.  when she
says she's sick i think don't think she's referring to physical illness but to
her dying spirit.  having her girlfriend there would, i'm sure, be reassuring
and she would fill some of the empty space, or at least the hole from which
her spirit is bleeding, but i don't think that it's just lonliness that she is
feeling.

the really beautiful thing about this song is the way that her mood comes
through in the imagery she uses: "steeples pierce the skylight until the last
of it bleeds.  the absent sound of another day as it recedes into the shadows
until it's nothing."  it's so different from the way that we expect emily to
look at things:  the "piercing" of the sky causing it to "bleed" out it's
light and and the life of the day until it's nothing.  what a dismal way to
describe the sun setting!  she feels like a prisoner, trapped by her
commitment to her career, and a whore who is selling herself for profit.  she
feels herself fading along with the day, becoming shadows, and eventually
nothing. this could be that she is losing sight of who she is, maybe, or just
expressing dispair.
the bed of anxiety, or the fears and worries about what is happening at home
in the south, is all that is saving her from the drop into nothingness.  the
burning churches may be representative of all of her concerns about the world
and the things that propel her into activism.  maybe she feels that if she
didn't fear so much for the state of the world she would be nothing.  or maybe
these concerns are distracting her from her loneliness (beautifully and
creatively described as withoutyouness).
she also expresses her concern for the evil, which has gotten a "toehold" on
goodness, or the stronger half of the natural good vs. evil dichotomy.  i
really haven't a clue about the next couple of lines, though.

now, i know someone out there has to have some thoughts on hand me downs.
please?

love,
molly o+

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anybody have the addy for the map site on the internet where you can get
direction?

the one i copied

http:/www.mapsonus.com

doesn't work.

thanks!!

jude :)

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does anyone else think that emily looks like a gangsta on the cover?? all the
other pictures are fabulous!  i love the picture taken in the park where she's
holding her guitar.  she looks too cute!

molly o+

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jayne fox <jfox@holycross.edu> wrote:
>hmd is kind of abstract but amy is pretty literal so i took a stab at what i
>think it's about --- any other takers ?

amy is pretty literal?  you know she's the dark-haired one, right? :-)

i'm not much for song dissection, especially since amy herself often doesn't
know what her songs mean.  :-)  but if i were backed into a corner i'd
probably maintain that hmd is about amy's analysis of one or more failed
relationships, looking herself to determine what happened.  the hand-me-downs
are the lessons she learns from the failures.  here are the lyrics, i don't
think they have been posted yet:

    i've taken so many down
    i've helped them all to dismount
    i've followed so many down
    i take their hand me downs
    all with hope
    all with hope
    that emptiness brings fullness
    and loss of love brings wholeness
    all with hope
    all with hope
    that emptiness brings fullness
    and loss of love brings wholeness
    to us all

    everything that i believe
    crawls from underneath the streets
    everything i truly love
    comes from somewhere far above
    everything that i believe
    is wrong with you is wrong with me
    everything i truly love
    i love in you and i love in me
    so give me hope
    give me hope
    that emptiness brings fullness
    and loss of love brings wholeness
    to us all

    you swear you can't swim the river
    (i've become the beggar now)
    (you've become the saint somehow)
    but i saw you running to jump in
    (i've become the beggar now)
    (you've become the saint somehow)
    i swore i'd never be your sinner
    (i've become the beggar now)
    (you've become the saint somehow)
    til i held your sin
    hand me downs

    now you ask me why i'm here
    the same as you
    i'm scared - it's fear
    i've become the beggar now
    and you've become the saint somehow
    twist the words and place the blame
    and tell me now aren't we the same
    tripping in our yellow feet
    checking underneath our sheets
    for some hope
    give me hope
    that emptiness brings fullness
    and loss of love brings wholeness
    give me hope
    give me hope
    that emptiness brings fullness
    and loss of love brings wholeness
    to us all

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because i'm an accupressure fan, i've assumed this was a reference
to that(using pressure to relieve distress).  i guess it just goes to
show that we each have our own respective glasses on when we listen
to/think about lyrics...(my lover and i always use accupressure to treat
symptoms of illness, as well as emotional distress.)
my two yen on the subject...
peace-nic

>my roommate and i were having a discussion about what the last verse
>of leeds (hold my head love, i'm sick tonight... that one) means.


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when i said amy was fairly literal i didn't mean that her lyrics were
explicit or straightforward ---
i meant that she tends to write in a way that describes feelings and
events without intentionally creating her metaphors to carry the message
of the song in the 'romantic' way (used in the literary sense) emily does.
i have interpreted the fact that amy has often said she 'doesn't know
what a song means' as an indication of her descriptive style.
- j

>>> deb <indigo@mindspring.com> 12/19/97 08:41am >>>
jayne fox <jfox@holycross.edu> wrote:

amy is pretty literal?  you know she's the dark-haired one, right? :-)

i'm not much for song dissection, especially since amy herself often
doesn't
know what her songs mean.  :-)  but if i were backed into a corner i'd
probably maintain that hmd is about amy's analysis of one or more failed
relationships, looking herself to determine what happened.  the
hand-me-downs
are the lessons she learns from the failures.  here are the lyrics, i don't
think they have been posted yet:

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the 2 major map thingy urls are:

http://www.mapsonus.com   (case sensitive little sucker)

or

http://www.mapquest.com

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date:         fri, 19 dec 1997 10:21:18 -0500
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www.delorme.com is , imnsho, the best map program - it's based it maine so
it must be superior...

oh jude - write me - i have about 43 tapes you want.

mike r.

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>the 2 major map thingy urls are:
>
>http://www.mapsonus.com   (case sensitive little sucker)
>

nuh-uh. the internet standards specify that hostnames are never case-sensitive!
this geek moment brought to you by kirsten

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kirsten chevalier <mchevalier@wellesley.edu>:

>>http://www.mapsonus.com   (case sensitive little sucker)
>>
>
>nuh-uh. the internet standards specify that hostnames are never
case-sensitive!

funny, since the internet was built on case-sensitive unix systems. well,
funny to me and kristen, maybe. :-)

it was just a syntax error, the second "/" was missing after the "http:"

we now return you to your regularly scheduled nigc.

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news from the epic site <http://www.indigogirls.com>:

>                     on december 4th, the indigo girls taped an
>                    appearance on the ellen show. the episode is
>                     titled "womyn fest" --a spoof on lilith fair.
>                     ellen, paige and audrey (characters on the
>                    show) rent a camper and go to the womyn fest
>                    concert. indigo girls and sarah mclachlan are
>                    performers at the festival (separately). indigos
>                    perform a minute and 1/2 of "shame on you"
>                         and are mentioned in the dialogue.
>
>                      ellen degeneres is a big indigo fan and
>                     treated amy and emily wonderfully. at ellen's
>                    request, the girls sang 2 songs with her (closer
>                     to fine and ghost) during downtime on the
>                      set. kabc (local la news), e! tv and cnn
>                     were on the set and got footage of ellen and
>                       the girls singing as well as one-on-one
>                                  interviews.
>
>                     this episode will air january 7th. check local
>                        listings for time and channel details.
>
>                    the indigo girls are on the road again though
>                      the beginning of febuary. check tour for
>                                   details.
>
>                     the indigo girls' 1995 honor the earth tour
>                    raised over $300,000 for distribution among 41
>                         different grassroots environmental
>                       organizations and was the largest single
>                       fundraising effort in the history of native
>                     american activism. this tour also generated
>                    over 25,000 "action cards" mailed to local, state
>                    and federal officials; and created a network of
>                    tens of thousands of supporters for the rights
>                     of native peoples. amy and emily performed
>                    concerts throughout the western us as well as
>                      at native communities in minnesota, south
>                           dakota, arizona, and alaska.
>
>                      the honor the earth campaign is a joint
>                     project of the seventh generation fund, the
>                       indigenous women's network, and the
>                    indigenous environmental network. the 1997
>                    honor the earth tour is sponsored by ben &
>                    jerry's. you can buy indigo girls cds online @
>                                  the store.
>
>                     amy ray and emily saliers co-produced their
>                    latest release shaming of the sun with david
>                    leonard, with some tracks produced by peter
>                     collins. the new album contains twelve new
>                     original songs, including the premier single
>                     "shame on you," "get out the map," "shed
>                     your skin," "caramia," and "don't give that
>                                 girl a gun."
>
>                     for all of you fans, there are several ways to
>                            get in touch with the girls:
>
>                              fan club address:
>                              indigo girls fan club
>                       315 w. ponce de leon ave., suite 755
>                               decatur, ga 30030
>                              ph:(770) 333-7040
>
>                                    email:
>                               igfan@rcam.com
>
>                    or you can post a message right now on their
>                                bulletin board.
>
>                            12/17/1997 01:34 -by- af

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hello listees!  finally i have broken free from the vicious exam week
cycle!  all done, no more stats, microbiology, chmeistry...ahhhh.  to mark
the occasion, i thought i'd share a great ig moment with yall.  i went ot
the omaha show on the 6th of december, and i thought maybe i'd get really
lucky and meet our girls after the show, so i stood outside in the
(extreme) cold for about an hour and a half, just sitting on top of my
car waiting for the tour bus to leave.  so finally it pulls out, and of
course it's tinted glass, so i just wave and blow kisses, watching it go,
and then there's a red light.  so what happens?  amy ray comes to the
front of the bus and waves at me (ok, me and about five other people)!  so
that's my good story, the tour bus drove away, on it's way for brew city,
very sad since that's my hometown and i didn't get to see them play there.
anyway, the next time you hear from me i'll be at a different university,
starting from scratch, so wish me luck!

peace and indigo,
jordy

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in a message dated 97-12-19 03:17:58 est, you write:

<< it's so different from the way that we expect emily to
look at things:  the "piercing" of the sky causing it to "bleed" out it's
light and and the life of the day until it's nothing.  what a dismal way to
describe the sun setting!  >>

i think it's interesting to find this on the same disc as "that big ball of
orange sinking slyly down the trees."  have y'all noticed that on boots of the
demo tour she says "slowly"?  slyly is a good substitution!

peace and holiday joy,

pam

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 09:52:06 -0800
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they're in the mail kiddo...
you should have them in time

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okay-

i was just copyin from my bookmark (in which the m, o, & u *are*
capitalized).

i don't know nuthin bout no protcols...

so, on that point i defer to the young lady, kirsten "the knight", who
has just made a reappearance after quite a long absence... just to
correct moi... i feel honored.

welcome back, kirsten. there haven't been *any* flame wars lately...

:o)
peace & happy holidays...

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ok,
i'm going to be daring and not unsubscribe for the month (ack!) that
i'll be away from my computer. my dad has apparently gotten a p200 and
turned the room that used to be mine into an office (he says i still get
a bed), so i plan on being able to check my e-mail...i hope. otherwise,
i'll be blessed with five million messages when i get back, and they'll
probably hold me responsible for crashing the system...anyhoo, i'm
heading out of here as soon as i pack and clean, going to dc tonight to
see danielle howle, coming back to baltimore tomorrow for 24 hours of
studio bliss and then flying to toronto on sunday...
so, if anybody writes to me and i don't respond after a couple of days,
it doesn't mean i love you any less, it just means i'm lying on my
parents linoleum convulsing from internet withdrawal.

if you celebrate something, then have a great ______(insert holiday
here)
sarah (who is done done done done done)
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date:         fri, 19 dec 1997 10:27:14 -0800
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rumour and my
ig fan club newsletter say that the girls are coming to san
francisco, in january.

does anyone have any more info on this?

please email me directly.

thanks

-larissa

(yes, yer oldy but goody busy friend)

==
blessings,

ms. oak

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date:         fri, 19 dec 1997 12:58:08 -0600
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help!! why haven't i received a newletter???  can someone forward it to
my personal acct (or maybe the list if others are in teh same boat!!!


anne

happy holidays, whatever you celebrate

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date:         fri, 19 dec 1997 14:25:07 -0500
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hey,
         bethany perry...please email me! i think there's been a tape mix up!!!

                                                -heather

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hey folks,

i'm going away in precisely 48 hours, so if anybody needs any admin
help from me, this is your last chance to speak up before january
12th!

i've been busybusybusy.  okay, so i've been celebrating the end of
my work year by playing "the curse of monkey island", but it's still
keeping me busy. *grin*  anyway - the faqs will be posted sometime in
the next 12 hours i hope.  the fan survey - i've still got a heck of
a lot of responses to add in, but i'm going to leave them 'til next
year because i want to try to finish monkey island before i leave. :)

anyway.  i can't think of anything else so i'll talk to you guys
later -
happy happy, :)
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subject:      re: leeds

first of all, hey jill!!!!! (god, i can hardly call you jill . . . it's
not right!)  and i'm sorry you were talking with gina (for those of you
who haven't guessed i know jill . . . and her roommate!).  but here's
what i say about leeds . . . i too always thought it was odd since it's
not the usual optimistic attitude that em uses, but that made the song
all the more poignant.  i agree that the sickness is probably spiritual,
though i could see how everything going around her could make her
physically ill.  with her being so into rights and tolerance for
everybody, the burning of churches probably pissed the heck out of her .
. . and also the religious background she has.  and i kinda always
thought of lotk when she says "before the last ounce of my spirit bleeds
onto the pristine sheets of the hotel bed in leeds" . . . it's the whole
idea of emptiness, specifically in a foreign country (like the last part
of lotk).  she probably feels even more empty away from familiarity of
friends and loved ones, just like she was at the end of lotk.  but that's
my 2 cents.

love,
carolyn!

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first - i have had a stab at writing out the four-part harmony for the water is
wide based on a lilith boot - email me if you want it.  all i need now is three
other people to sing with - makes me wish i was still in grade school - "ok,
i'll be emily, you be amy" - "but i want to be jewel!" "you can't be jewel,
you've got dark hair, you're amy, start drawing the tattoos!"

second - now i really want to be a celebrity! suddenly the benefits are crystal
clear!   just imagine being able to ask emily and amy to sing your favourite
songs - and sing them _with you_!!!!

>at ellen's request, the girls sang 2 songs with her (closer to fine and ghost)
during >downtime on the set.

tell me again, is jealousy a bad thing or a good thing?  i'm not sure....  :-)

elizabeth

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did i already post about santa barbara?  i haven't seen it come through
so here's the quick version:

show is 1/29 at the arlington theater, on-sale tomorrow, 12/20 at 10a.m.

alison

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date:         fri, 19 dec 1997 18:04:54 -0500
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subject:      thoughts on hand me downs (too darn long!)

well, i'd been meaning to put in my thoughts on this, but i got caught up
in the whirl and twirl of it all, ya know?? :)  but anyhoo, i hope i'm
not repeating . . . i know there have been a couple of posts but i
unfortunately don't have them anymore, so sorry if this is a "me too"
kinda deal!

ok, so i've always thought that the beginning was amy saying that she's
had experience in helping other people out of their relationship
problems, but she still can't always deal with her own in the best way.
she learns (i take their hand me downs) from her friends that she helps
(i've helped them all to dismount).  if that is the case, i know what she
means . . . don't you hate it when you can give other folks the greatest
advice but then you can't figure out your own messes?!

" . . . all with hope . . . that emptiness brings fullness and loss of
love brings wholeness to us all"
i take that part to mean that she helps in good faith, and hopes that
both the person and she can learn from the mistakes they have made.  she
sees that you will never have a free ride, and that you have to live with
the bad in order to gain from the good.  that's a theme in a lot of
songs.

"everything that i believe crawls from underneath the streets.
everything i truly love comes from somewhere high above.  everything that
i believe is wrong with you is wrong with me.  everything i truly love i
love in you i love in me."
this part, to me, seems like her being a bit pissed at herself for being
mad about a broken relationship.  ya know how sometimes you have nasty
thoughts about the other person even though you know you should move on .
. .?  everything that she believes, i.e. her irrational feelings, come
from under the streets, a typical filthy and dirty image, not clean and
pure and nice.  but she knows that what she loves, which represent her
true feelings, are of a higher order.  see the parallell structure, how
she speaks of things she believes and things she loves twice?  well, if
you look at that in a weird way you can put them together . . . the 2
believing statements and the 2 love statements together.  if you do that,
then it supports that she is thinking evil things about herself and the
person she is no longer close to.  and as for loving, you get the aspect
of some kind of god both above and in her and the other person.  and
since god lives in everybody (that is the theory, right?  i'm not into
that too much so pardon if i say anything overtly wrong) she, by hating
the other person, is hating god, which is bad.  so that might be a guilty
kind of feeling, ya?

"so give me hope give me hope that emptiness brings fullness and loss of
love brings wholeness to us all."
again, bad and good go hand in hand, so you have to learn from the bad
and gain from it while you can.

"swear you can't swim the river.  i saw you running to jump in.  i swore
i'd never be your sinner, until i held your sin."
i get a lot of anger, resentment, and guilt from this song, and this part
esp.  she's going back to the relationship and citing lies that she was
told, and she obviously thought that she wouldn't play the game, but then
she was drawn in by something.  it reminds me of an opposites attract
thing -- this person seemed to go against what amy believed in, but still
amy played along, and ended up hurt.

"now you ask me why i'm here.  the same as you, i'm scared, it's fear.
i've become the sinner now and you've become the saint somehow.  twist
the words and place the blame.  tell me now, aren't we the same?
tripping in our yellow feet, checking underneath our sheets, for some
hope, give me hope, that emptiness brings fullness and loss of love
brings wholeness to us all . . . "
this is a continuation of the opposites theme, and also hints at
insecurity.  both of these people probably know that they are not meant
to be together, but they both hang on, perhaps because it is a different
kind of relationship than usual.  but underneath, they both have the same
needs, no matter who says what or how it ends.  the yellow feet thing . .
. well "yellow" is a word for cowardly, so maybe that goes with the fact
that they are hanging on to what was never meant to be, i dunno.  but the
song ends with the echoing idea that no matter how sucky things are, once
the mistake is made, you can, and should learn from it.

so there you have what i think . . . it's got everything . . . guilt,
anger, insecurity, hope . . . wow.  it's so weird when all of the sudden
you think in depth about what it says.  but this is one of many ways to
see it, and i'd like to hear what everyone else thinks.  if you actually
read all of this convoluted mess then you deserve a big :)

have a happy {your holiday here}!!
love,
carolyn!!

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 07:40:52 +0800
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>lynda wrote:
>since i have nothing better to do at work...i scanned in the pictures
>from the curve article. i got a *bit* excited from the description of
>amy's shirt from the big list...but of course its not as great in
>reality as it was in my head!!

thanks for posting those pix - glad someone out there is thinking of others,
especially all us non-us residents!!!
thanks!
joadster

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date:         fri, 19 dec 1997 19:25:13 est
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in a message dated 97-12-19 08:33:44 est, missmoll99@aol.com writes:

<< does anyone else think that emily looks like a gangsta on the cover??  >>

i haven't seen the pic yet, but i can imagine how it could be so.  don't
forget, em's really into missy elliot right now - fondly known as plastic bag
lady in our home.  later y'all

bonnie

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date:         fri, 19 dec 1997 18:40:21 -0500
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well, it seems that neither public radio station in the nashville
market (wpln 90.3 nashville and wmot 89.5 murfreesboro) carries mountain
stage, which is pretty damned shameful, considering this is a music
town which tends to be very warm toward the kind of performers featured
on mountain stage.  however, the public station that carries mountain
stage in my hometown of ashland, ky originates out of athens, ohio,
so at least my dad should be able to tape it for me.  i'm really disgusted
that no public station in the nashville area broadcasts it.  just had to get
that off of my chest.  thank you for letting me vent my disgust!
in the event neither my mom or dad will be home to tape it (it airs on
sunday where they live), i may be begging some kind person on this list
to make a dub for me!

peace and happy holidays!

joan :-d

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date:         fri, 19 dec 1997 20:07:28 -0500
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finally.  after a hellish, hellish semester, i can relax.
and then start all over again in a few weeks with another
semester of ridiculously competitive organic chem lecture
and lab.  bitter? no, not me.  well, believe it or not, the
uva bookstore (how many people are in our lgbtu?  three?)
carries curve and had the new issue. i was amazed and
delighted.  hmmm...in the past few weeks i've bought "the
best selling lesbian magazine" and a cd called "lesbian
favorites : women like us".  and i have a monstrous crush
on amy (but don't we all). maybe my subconscious is trying
to tell me something.  anyway, the article and pictures are
wonderful.  tomorrow i leave for the great 8 hour drive
home, so for the next few weeks i'll be known as
igdarsteph@aol.com, although my mail here gets forwarded
home too.  off to finally watch my great woods ppv tape!
                        stephanie

stephanie lynne merhar
university of virginia
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http://faraday.clas.virginia.edu/~slm4b/

*do what you love...the rest will come*

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date:         fri, 19 dec 1997 19:59:51 est
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yet another announcement to tell y'all that there is one.....

we are located at arts & entertainment - indigo girls and the "i" in girls is
actually a lowercase l.  here's a hyperlink i hope it goes through:

<a href="aol://2719:62-2-indigo%20glrls">arts and entertainment - indigo
glrls</a>

everyone is welcome, we're usually there in the later parts of the evening and
on the weekends, sometimes even the wee hours of the morning!  :o)

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
    -  president, grlchasr26 fan club
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and tigger, who had been hiding behind trees and jumping
out on pooh's shadow when it wasn't looking, said that
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as they had had a few haycorns they became quiet and refined.
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okay, i'm home in chicago.  i can't find any listingsd for the mtn stage
schedule on my local npr station.  i have a feeling they don't broadcast
it.  sooooo...if anyone would be kind enough to make me a copy, i can send
a tape, postage (sorry, i don't really have anything to trade...) or
whatever.  please e-mail me!

:-) karen

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date:         fri, 19 dec 1997 19:48:55 -0800
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hey y'all!

        here's my answers to double jeopardy.  please remember this was only
a practice round and i'm still trying to work the kinks out.  so please bear
with me :)
        btw i have not heard from a few leaders for the final jeopardy
round, including 42nat1 (melissa) and jen lucero.  if i lost your email in
the shuffle, i apologize in advance.  please resend your wager for final
jeopardy and i'll send you the question.  the category is lyrics~
        all responses must by receive by private mail by monday 12-22-97, at
noon (cst).

thanx~
tony


double jeopardy answers:
*categories*   politics, geography, lyrics, the band, ig list

politics-

$200    environmental/cultural organization formed by a&e?  honor the earth

$400    according to amy, of a&e, most likely to run for political office?
emily

$600    name of the indigenous rebels in chiapas, mexico?  zapatistas
*daily double*

geography-

$200    ig's home base?  atlanta or decatur, ga

$400    "if you forget my face, i'll never call your name again"?  nashville

$600    ig's have played the glastonbury festival in this country?  england

lyrics-

$200    he/she/it said, "don't let go, just plant the seeds and watch them
grow"?  sejarez (from world falls)

$400    "it shines like sugar on your lips"?  the taste of danger!

$600    appropriate audience response to, "pretty pretenders and negligent
vendors, aren't we precious inside ..."?  "yes, we are!"

the band-

$200    ig's end nearly every concert with this song?  ctf

$400    the girls will soon be touring this down-under continent?  australia

$600    ig's loaned her sara lee and her drummer played with the girls?  ani
difranco

ig list-

$200    active list manager?  jude shabry is the list owner, but sherlyn koo
of australia is the active list manager.

$400    who is this ma binky anyway? (real or screen name)  claire johnson
or mmedido ... shame, shame on you who didn't get this one ;)

$600    amy's biggest gripe about the list?  invasion of privacy
*daily double*

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date:         fri, 19 dec 1997 22:49:51 -0500
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was broadcasted a bunch of places on the web last week, it seems people had
the schedule messed up because some winter special is listed -- can someone
confirm this asap? a tape would confirm - if it wasn't already b'casted - i
can provide several url's to hear it at....so is it the 13th or the 20th?


i could even set up a page with direct links to all the stations...
again: has anyone heard it this week?

(since no one has posted i'm assuming not)

it's on tomorrow on bunches of www sites.

more info if i get any confirmations!

mike r.

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hey kind friends~

        sorry for the bandwith, but i thought many on the list would enjoy
this commencement address by kurt vonnegut.  i especially like the part about:

        "do one thing every day that scares you.
        sing...dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room."

        if you've had the *pleasure* of hearing me sing or watching me dance
the funky chicken, then you'd know why it's a pretty scary thing! ;o

tony doolittle~
aka da chickenman

this was kurt vonnegut's commencement address at mit.

ladies and gentlemen of the class of '97:

wear sunscreen.

if i could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen
would be it. the long-term benefits of sunscreen have been
proved by scientists, whereas the rest of my advice has no
basis more reliable than my own meandering experience. i will
dispense this advice now.

enjoy the power and beauty of your youth. oh, never mind.
you will not understand the power and beauty of your youth
until they've faded. but trust me, in 20 years, you'll look
back at photos of yourself and recall in a way you can't grasp
now how much possibility lay before you and how fabulous you
really looked. you are not as fat as you imagine.

don't worry about the future. or worry, but know that worrying
is as effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing
bubble gum. the real troubles in your life are apt to be things that
never crossed your worried mind, the kind that blindside you at 4 pm
on some idle tuesday.

do one thing every day that scares you.
sing.

don't be reckless with other people's hearts. don't put up with
people who are reckless with yours.

floss...

don't waste your time on jealousy. sometimes you're ahead,
sometimes you're behind. the race is long and, in the end,
it's only with yourself.

remember compliments you receive. forget the insults. if you
succeed in doing this, tell me how.

keep your old love letters. throw away your old bank statements.

stretch.

don't feel guilty if you don't know what you want to do with
your life. the most interesting people i know didn't know at
22 what they wanted to do with their lives. some of the most
interesting 40-year-olds i know still don't.

get plenty of calcium. be kind to your knees. you'll miss them
when they're gone.

maybe you'll marry, maybe you won't. maybe you'll have children,
maybe you won't. maybe you'll divorce at 40, maybe you'll dance
the funky chicken on your 75th wedding anniversary.  whatever you do, don't
congratulate yourself too much, or berate yourself either. your choices are
half chance. so are everybody else's.

enjoy your body. use it every way you can. don't be afraid of
it or of what other people think of it. it's the greatest
instrument you'll ever own.

dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room.

read the directions, even if you don't follow them.

do not read beauty magazines. they will only make you feel ugly.

get to know your parents. you never know when they'll be gone
for good. be nice to your siblings. they're your best link to
your past and the people most likely to stick with you in the
future.

understand that friends come and go, but with a precious few
you should hold on. work hard to bridge the gaps in geography
and lifestyle, because the older you get, the more you need
the people who knew you when you were young.

live in new york city once, but leave before it makes you hard.
live in northern california once, but leave before it makes you
soft.  travel.

accept certain inalienable truths: prices will rise. politicians
will philander. you, too, will get old. and when you do, you'll
fantasize that when you were young, prices were reasonable,
politicians were noble, and children respected their elders.

respect your elders.

don't expect anyone else to support you. maybe you have a trust
fund. maybe you'll have a wealthy spouse. but you never know when
either one might run out.

don't mess too much with your hair or by the time you're 40 it
will look 85.

be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who
supply it. advice is a form of nostalgia. dispensing it is a way
of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting
over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

but trust me on the sunscreen.

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date:         fri, 19 dec 1997 23:49:09 -0400
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i can feel those "lonesome vibes" comin' on already, with everyone
slowly but surely taking off for the holidays. i wish i were going
somewhere good like the rest of you all (notice, i refrained from saying
ya'll! it would've been sooo easy), but i'm not...christmas is at the
perry house (that's my house!) this year.  whoopee!
anyhoo, i decided to post a message to the list so i can get excited
when i see the 1 message coming through...(even though i know it's from
my stinkin' self!)
i'm just kidding...i'm not *that* lonely - buuut i would like to say
merry christmas and happy new year to all o' my fellow indigo girls
fans...you're a great bunch of people!
oh, one more thing! thanks to all of the card senders in my group...i'm
loving my trips to the mailbox!

-bethany ;)

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 01:21:28 -0500
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anyone who got mail bounced back it was cause someone sent me 2 meg in
files its all clear now so if something bounced send it back to me

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hate to ruin the fun, but i read an article in the new york times just after
the  alleged kurt vonnegut commencement address to mit first went round the
internet.  vonnegut didn't attend the 97 mit commencement ceremonies, let
alone give the address.  vonnegut himself hasn't a clue why something like
that would be attributed to him, he says he would never have written
anything like that.  oh well, it was fun to read anyhow...
y'all take care now, and live your lives according to your own advice...

amy aka aislynn

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 02:13:42 est
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there was something about this song (leeds) that kept nagging
at me because it reminded me of something else...now, thanks
to you wunnerful listees, i think i've discovered what it is!  the
imagery in leeds reminds me a lot of history of us, especially
the lines referring to the night/bleeding/churches/hotel rooms/
europe...for example, "from my hotel room, watching the half-
moon bleeding its light like a lamb" and "steeples pierce the
skyline 'til the last of it bleeds"/"until the last ounce of my spirit
bleeds onto the pristine sheets of the hotel bed...".  also, seeing
the "statues of lovers everyplace" reminds me of her feelings of
"withoutyouness", being apart from her lover/family/friends/country.
the tone of both songs includes feelings of "nothingness" (cf.
"ashes to dust")...she also writes about violence ("smashed by
the bombs..." and "16 black churches burning..."); interestingly, in
both songs the violence is against a religious symbol (icons and
churches).  hmm...what else?  the "bed of anxiety" parallels "this
restless love" in some way... and "the absent sound of another
day as it recedes" sounds sorta like "so we must love while these
moments are still called today".  it seems that as emily travels
through europe and is excited by the prospect of seeing all of the
romantic beauty for which europe is famous, she finds that the
continent has many of the same problems as in her own life and
experiences...it's disillusioning for her. europe seems to bring out
em's spirituality in spite of (or maybe because of) this disillusionment.
i can just see her in the decaying cathedral praying...<shivers>
anyone else have interps. or different points to make?  bring 'em on--
i want to hear more about these two songs.  we hardly ever discuss
hou here on the list, but it has some beautiful imagery.  one of my
favorite lines is "there's just no medium for life".  wow, that woman
is a genius...=)  okay, time to quit rambling and get to bed...=p

peace, love, and devil moons,
pony

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>       "do one thing every day that scares you.
>          sing...dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your
>         living room.

hmm...sounds like bokonon to me. ;)  oh yeah, to make this a
teensy bit igc, another shameless plug for the curve article:  i
just got my copy of curve today--it's *soooo* awesome...absolutely
filled with pix and lots of info from amy (including the true name of
ani's goat-boy ;) and her inspiration for hkf and sys.  and better
yet, it's to be continued next month...=)  made my day!

peace and indigo swirls,
pony (who is *usually* a lurker...)

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 08:57:38 est
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heyya listers...

ok...so it's been decided that there a lot of listers in the ny/nj area...and
i know that we've tried to do this before but...we need to get together!
lets do the private e-mail thang and work out a meeting place...seeing as tho
a lot of us are going to be on break and we'll have time...and i'll post where
we'll be...yes grl...pa is close enough...we expect you there!
{s smooch

if yall have ideas where we should go...that would be great.  last time i
proposed this on a hypothetical note...everyone was like...i'm in...but no one
had any idea what to do...<sigh>...it will work...

on another note...
so apparently we've found the reason to stick with aol....the chatroom!  i
know that the link that our very own tigster sent didn't go thru on my hotmail
account...but luckily the html code did!  (i never thought that i'd say that)

i finally have the code and i hooked up a link from my homepage but when i
tried to link up from explorer it didn't work.  there were no problems however
with my aol browser!  (never thought i'd say that either)...soooo....

if you have aol...there is link on my ig link page @
http://members.aol.com/rudyburman/ig.html
i know the page is awful so far but i'll have some time over the break...

*disclaimer* we are generally harmless as long as miss liz-i-live-closer-to-
ticketmaster-than-you-do-cohen doesn't have her mace handy!!!  (j/k...i love
you liz!  ;-t)

see yall there

ruthie <--who still has one more final on monday at 8pm!!!  and dreads the
thought of moving out for the break b/c she has to take her computer b/c
she'll go crazy without it!!!  <-- and who rambles too much!  ;)

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 22:02:14 +0800
reply-to:     siti <skunky@post1.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         siti <skunky@post1.com>
subject:      anyone interested in a trade???
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hi y'all

okay.. here's the deal.. i've heard so much about this article abt the ig
in curve mag but unfortunately, i've searched high and low and it's just
not available here.. well since this is singapore, that's not very
surprising.. but i digress... so.. i was wondering if any kind souls out
there could get me a copy.. either for cash or i could trade . i have an
extra copy of the "least complicated" single . it has the track as well as
the acoustic versions of "dead man's hill" and "mystery"... actually, i'm
open to any other requests so just lemme know.

so, anyone out there interested.. e-mail me back .. privately of course..

thanks.

siti
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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 10:06:26 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls rule <klrosenb@wittenberg.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         indigo girls rule <klrosenb@wittenberg.edu>
subject:      curve!
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i got curve magazine yesterday.  gteat photos!  i need to go out and get a
few more copies, i think!  i am so psyched that the interview will be
finished in the feb/march issue!  does that mean there will be more
pictures???!!!  :-)

have a good holiday everyone!

i'm at home now, but i still have access to my e-mail.

:-) karen

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"if we ever leave a legacy it's that we loved each other well."
        --indigo girls (emily)

"got to learn to respect what we don't understand."
        --indigo girls (amy)

klrosenb@wittenberg.edu                 s00.krosenblum@mail.wittenberg.edu
               http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/~klrosenb/

east asian studies                                      political science
      major                                                  minor
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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 10:47:09 -0800
reply-to:     chi-hwa h tang <tangho@juno.com>
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from:         chi-hwa h tang <tangho@juno.com>
subject:      curve-help!!

waaaaahhhh!  where is everyone getting the mag!   i've been asking the
newsstands here in nyc and noone seems to carry it!    what's up?

holly

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 11:09:01 -0500
reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      mt stage online
content-type: text

www.wamc.org - mon - 9 pm eastern - realaudio

http:www.idbsu.edu/bsuradio - realaudio 2-4 pm idaho time - convert
yourself!

that is all the ones i can find

happy holidays!

mike r.

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 12:17:00 -0600
reply-to:     jo and gary harney <jgharney@advicom.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jo and gary harney <jgharney@advicom.net>
subject:      indigo dream
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hey y'all!  i just thought i'd share a rather odd ig dream i had last
night.  i dreamt that i was in geography class (which, incidentally, i have
never taken, and will never take) and we took a field trip and ended up
hanging out in a really small room with amy and emily before a concert of
theirs.  we talked for a while about nothing in particular, and then i
somehow ended up talking to emily about songwriting, and she said she'd let
me get up on stage with them and sing closer to fine that night.
skip to the next night....
we were backstage with ig again, and emily was bugging me like a little kid
to get me to show her the lyrics to one of my songs.  (yeah...like *that*
would ever happen! ;) )  i finally showed it to her, and they said i could
play it in the middle of their set that night.  so they stopped right in
the middle of shed your skin, and i had to try to play this particular song
to the drum loop they had going in the background.  (not a real good match
to my song)  anyway, i woke up sometime after that concert when i was
signing autographs.
so, there ya go.  go figger...a very odd ig dream.  :)

sue

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 14:20:29 est
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it seems wierd to me that some of you can't find this mag.  here in austin i
find it everywhere (well, sort of ) .  well, i just wanted to share with ya'll
some of the places i find  it in.      i see it in  " barnes and nobles "  ,
and   " borders " bookstores.   and all the gay bookstores of course.  also ,
any alternative mag  or cd store is likely to have it.

happy hunting !
amy s.

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 07:18:55 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey everyone,

the indigo girls faq and the indigo girls mailing list faq
have been updated.  i'll be posting the mailing list faq
to the list very shortly - if you haven't read it, you
probably should - it's way long but it's got important stuff
such as the posting guidelines in it.

i won't be posting the ig faq this time around, since it
hasn't changed all that much since last time.  if you want
to check it out (and again, if you haven't read it you
probably should), you can find it at
http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/ig or it's also available via
anonymous ftp from space.mit.edu/pub/cmb/ig.

okay, i think that's all for now - thanks folks,
sherlyn
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** i will be away from december 22, 1997 until january 12, 1998. **
  "and i am here, and you are now, and this is this,
   and this is what i'm saying; you are hearing me,
   and we're engaging in a miracle..." - lisa mccormick

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 07:23:34 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hi again folks,

here is the indigo girls mailing list faq, which also doubles as
the list welcome message.  please read and save this message,
which should replace any previous version of the mailing list faq
that you have saved.

thanks,
sherlyn

========================== faq begins here ==========================

welcome to the indigo girls mailing list!

please read and save this message which contains the indigo girls
mailing list faq, including a note for new listmembers, an
explanation of some handy listserv commands and the posting
guidelines for the mailing list.  we also strongly recommend that you
read the indigo girls faq; many questions have been answered there
that are not addressed in this document.  (see below for instructions
on how to obtain the indigo girls faq.)

this list is maintained by sherlyn koo and jude shabry.  if you have
any questions or administrative problems regarding the list please
don't hesitate to contact us at indigo-girls-request@netspace.org.

welcome again and we hope you enjoy your stay,
sherlyn and jude
owners, indigo girls mailing list


=====================================================
indigo girls mailing list: frequently asked questions
=====================================================
version 1.8
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last modified: 20 december 1997.

copyright 1997 jcsdoubled.  all rights reserved.

please retain this copyright when reproducing any part of this faq.
this document may not be distributed for financial gain.

table of contents
=================
1. what's new in this faq
2. questions about the indigo girls mailing list
3. a note for new list members
4. questions about listserv commands
5. the posting guidelines
6. questions about indigo girls
7. miscellaneous questions
8. acknowledgements


1. what's new in this faq
=========================

december 20, 1997 - rearranged this faq and the list welcome message
december 15, 1997 - updated section 5 to include more up-to-date
    information regarding upcoming tours


2. questions about the indigo girls mailing list
================================================

2.1. what is the indigo girls mailing list?

the indigo girls mailing list is a fan forum devoted to discussion of
the music of the indigo girls and related artists.  all are welcome,
and we strive to maintain a friendly, flame-free atmosphere.
currently the list membership stands at roughly 900 members from all
walks of life and from all around the world.

the list is maintained by sherlyn koo and jude shabry.  if you have
any administrative problems or queries about the list, contact
sherlyn and jude at indigo-girls-request@netspace.org.


2.2. do amy and emily know about the list, and how do they feel about
        it?

amy and emily do know about the mailing list; indications are that
they have mixed feelings about it.  when asked in a 1994 interview
how she felt about the list amy said, "well, there are positive parts
about that.  a lot of that internet stuff has helped a lot of
musicians that i know as far as publishing tour schedules.  the only
negative ramification i see is when people start talking about your
personal life... i appreciate the support it gives us, but... well,
it is not necessary to try and guess where somebody lives.  or guess
where you saw somebody the other night... but the support of the
music itself, i think that is a brilliant idea.  to support musicians
through the whole computer system i think is great."


3. a note for new list members
==============================

if you're new to this list, then welcome!  the list is a strange and
wonderful place.  it can, however, take some getting used to which is
why we have a few words of advice for new members:
    - it's often a good idea to wait a few days to get a "feel" for
        the list before posting for the first time.  this will also
        give you a chance to get up to date with the current topics
        of discussion.
    - read the posting guidelines and the faq files which have been
        set up to help you find your feet more quickly.
    - remember that some of the people on the list have been here for
        years and that discussions that seem new to you may have been
        hashed out many times before.  experience in reading the list
        and posting on certain issues will help you determine these
        sorts of things more easily.
    - most importantly - have fun!


4. questions about listserv commands
====================================

4.1. what email addresses do i need to know about?

the indigo girls mailing list is run using a software program called
listserv on a server at brown university in rhode island.  listserv
has several addresses, each of which serve different purposes
relating to the list.  it is important to understand the function of
the different addresses and when you should send mail to each.

the three main addresses to note are:

1) indigo-girls@netspace.org - any mail sent to this address will be
forwarded to each active member of the indigo girls mailing list.
there are currently around 900 people on the list, so think about
whether your message is really intended for such wide distribution
before you post it.  you should also think about whether or not your
message conforms to the posting guidelines which are laid out
elsewhere in this faq.

2) listserv@netspace.org - all listserv commands should be sent here.

3) indigo-girls-request@netspace.org - all mail sent to this address
will be automatically forwarded to jude shabry and sherlyn koo, the
owners of the indigo girls mailing list.


4.2. what is the difference between the "bounce" and "digest" forms
        of the list?

"bounce" means that messages will be individually "bounced" out to
you as soon as the list server receives them.  "digest" means the
list server will compile all messages sent to the list and send them
to you as one long message, either every 24 hours or when a certain
size quota is reached, whichever happens first.  currently the list
volume is such that several digests are sent out each day.


4.3. what listserv commands do i need to know about?

here is an explanation of some of the most commonly used listserv
commands.  all these commands should be sent, in the body of an email
message, to listserv@netspace.org (not to the list address).  they
will then be placed in a queue for the list server to process as soon
as it can.

1) to subscribe to the indigo girls mailing list:
        subscribe indigo-girls <your name>

replace "<your name>" with your real name.  you will be sent a
message which leads you through the second and final step of the
subscription process.

2) to unsubscribe from the indigo girls mailing list:
        signoff indigo-girls

3) to switch from bounce to digest form:
        set indigo-girls digest

4) to switch from digest to bounce form:
        set indigo-girls nodigest

5) to temporarily put your subscription "on hold" while on vacation:
        set indigo-girls nomail

note that if you're going away for a long time or leaving permanently
you should unsubscribe using the "signoff" command.

6) to reactivate your subscription after it's been set to "nomail":
        set indigo-girls mail

7) to get a list of names and email addresses of all current
    non-concealed members of the indigo girls mailing list:
        review indigo-girls

8) to hide your name and email address from the "review" command:
        set indigo-girls conceal

note that even if you set this option on, the list owners will still
be able to see you even though no one else can.

9) to find out your current subscription options for the indigo girls
    mailing list:
        query indigo-girls

10) to get a basic help file on listserv commands:
        help

11) to get a more advanced help file on listserv commands:
        info refcard

12) to get a list of all archive files available for the indigo girls
    mailing list:
        index indigo-girls

the indigo girls mailing list is archived by week, going right back
to when the current version of the list was started in 1995.

13) to order an archive file from the server:
        get indigo-girls <filename>

replace "<filename>" with the name of the file you wish to order.
typically a log file will have a name that looks like "logxxxxx",
eg. "get indigo-girls log9505b".


4.4. what do i do if i have a problem with a listserv command?

some listserv commands, notably "signoff" and "set", will not work
unless you are sending your message from exactly the same address
under which you are subscribed to the list.  if you sent a command to
the list server and the server returned an error message reading "you
are not subscribed to the list", try sending the message again from
the same machine from which you originally subscribed.

if you sent a command to the list server and the server returned a
message reading "unknown command", read the help file available from
the server to find out the correct command syntax.

if you have read the help file, re-tried the command, and still
received an error message, contact the list owners, jude shabry
and sherlyn koo, at indigo-girls-request@netspace.org.


5. the posting guidelines
=========================

5.1. why do we need posting guidelines at all?

the posting guidelines are intended to help keep the list "on track".
always remember that the purpose of the list is to provide a forum
in which fans can discuss the music of the indigo girls.  many people
on the list have neither the time nor inclination to read non-indigo
girls-related messages.  please be considerate and keep the posting
guidelines in mind when posting to the list.


5.2. what are the posting guidelines?

the guidelines for posting on the indigo girls mailing list are as
follows:

1) read the indigo girls faq before posting questions to the list.
see below for instructions on obtaining the faq.

2) check your message headers
mail intended for the whole list should be addressed to
"indigo-girls@netspace.org".  private responses to public messages
should be sent directly to the person to whom you wish to reply.

make sure that the subject line is relevant to the content of your
message.  adding "nigc" to the subject if your message is not indigo
girls related is also a good idea (more about this below).

3) delete all irrelevant text from quoted replies
delete any irrelevant sections of any quoted material before sending
your message to the list.  this includes other peoples' signatures,
any text that does not pertain to the topic, and any message headers.

4) read through all your mail before you reply
read through all your mail before you jump in with a reply to a
question that's been asked, in case the answer has already been
posted.  also, if you want to reply to several different messages it
is often a good idea to consolidate your replies into one long
message rather than sending several short messages.

5) use private email where appropriate
remember that the purpose of the list is to discuss the music of the
indigo girls, so if your message is private or is not indigo girls
related, it may not always be appropriate to send it to the entire
list.

this does not mean that off-topic discussion is not welcome on the
list.  on the contrary, sometimes off-topic subjects are interesting
and even relevant (for example, discussing a local band or looking
for bootlegs of certain shows).  however, please try to limit
discussion to subjects that have at least some relevance to the music
of the indigo girls.

6) mark non-indigo girls-related messages "nigc"
if you are sending a message to the list that is not directly indigo
girls related, you should mark the header "nigc", eg. "looking for ed
smith (nigc)".  this indicates that your message has no indigo girls
content.  again, try to limit the discussion to subjects that have at
least some relevance to the music of indigo girls.  for example, nigc
does not mean "well, there's no ig discussion, so let's talk about
movies/hair styles/candy bars!"

7) do not post gossip about amy and emily
we respect amy and emily and their right to privacy.  therefore,
please do not post any sort of gossip about their private lives to
the list.  note that this includes reports of "sightings", such as,
"i saw amy at the supermarket last night!"

8) keep your signature short
keep your signature short (maximum four to six lines), or, if it's
long and you don't want to change it, turn it off when posting to the
list.  this conserves bandwidth.

9) think before you flame, and if you must flame, use private email
if you must flame, do so via private email.  if you send a flame to
the entire list you run the risk of being flamed by many other people
in retaliation.  remember too that if you send a flame, it reflects
not only on the person that you are flaming, but also on yourself.

10) do not forward private email to the list
a long-standing rule of internet etiquette is that private emails
should not be forwarded to public forums without the author's
explicit permission.  this means that if someone sends you a private
message that you wish to share with the list you should ask the
author first.  note that this also includes flame emails, which
should be dealt with privately rather than forwarded to the list.

11) avoid "me too!" posts
messages which are nothing more than an entire quoted message
followed by "me too!" waste bandwidth and contribute nothing to the
development of a conversation.  if you feel that you must send this
sort of post, you should either send it via private email or else
make sure that your message has other content as well.

12) do not send email attachments to the list
do not send messages which contain any kind of email attachment to
the list.  many people do not have the facilities to view such files,
and attachments which contain executable computer code are also one
of the most common ways to transmit computer viruses over the
internet.  if you have a file or a picture that you would like to
share with the list you should find a www site to host it, rather
than sending a large attachment to the list.  you can then let the
list know the url of the file or picture and listmembers can retrieve
it at their leisure.  this also serves to conserve bandwidth.

13) avoid hoax emails, cross-posts, chain letters, etc
there are a few hoax emails that are constantly being forwarded
around the internet.  obviously, if you are sent one of these, do not
forward it to the mailing list.  some of the most common hoaxes are:
    - warnings about viruses called "pkzip.300", "penpal greetings"
        and "good times"
    - a request for "get well" cards for a young boy with leukemia
    - a message purportedly containing a recipe for mrs field's
        cookies
    - various "get rich quick" and "make money fast" schemes

also, please refrain from forwarding cross-posts (messages which are
sent to many unrelated forums at once), chain letters, humor stories
or large files to the list.  if you would like to share this sort of
message with the list, first post a short note describing the content
of the message and offering to forward it to anyone who is
interested.  if enough people express interest you may want to then
forward the message to the list.  however, please do not
indiscriminately forward these sorts of files to the list.

14) how to deal with spam
"spam" is the common term for junk emails (usually advertising)
which are sent to large sections of the internet at a time.  these
posts are annoying but unfortunately hard to avoid.  if you receive
a spam email from the list, you should either ignore it or send your
reply directly to the original poster.  do not post complaints or
flames to the list.  while it is almost guaranteed that everyone on
the list is as annoyed as you are, the resultant spate of flame
emails is often more annoying than the original spam itself.

15) how to conduct surveys over the list
if you want to conduct any kind of survey over the list, you should
present your idea to the list and ask people to send their responses
to you via private email.  you can then compile the data and post
the results to the list at a later date.  this keeps the volume of
email on the list down.

16) what to do if you think the list is dead
the list server dies from time to time and is always restarted as
soon as the problem is discovered.  if you're not sure whether the
server is still running you should refrain from posting until you
receive proof that the server is up.  sending "is the list running?"
messages is pointless if the list is not running and a waste of
bandwidth if it is.  if you want to confirm whether or not other
people have been receiving list mail, privately mail someone from the
list and ask them instead.

if you haven't been receiving list mail, another possibility is that
you have been dropped from the subscription list (this may happen if
your mail is bouncing for any reason).  use the "review" command to
see who is subscribed to the list.  if your name is not on the
subscription list you will need to resubscribe to the mailing list.


6. questions about indigo girls
===============================

6.1. is there a faq file about the indigo girls?  how do i get it?

the indigo girls faq has been made as comprehensive as possible;
many questions have been answered there that have not been addressed
in this document.  it is highly recommended that anyone with
questions about amy, emily or their music read the faq.

the faq is available:
    - on the www at http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/ig
    - via anonymous ftp from space.mit.edu, in directory pub/cmb/ig

if you cannot retrieve the faq by either of the above methods, it is
also available by email from sherlyn koo (sherlyn@fl.net.au).


6.2. what are indigo girls currently up to?

[december 20, 1997]
"shaming of the sun" was released on april 29 and debuted at #7 on
the billboard album chart, selling 78,000 units via soundscan in its
first week of release.  it was certified gold in july.  the first
single, amy's "shame on you", was commercially released in australia
in early july but has not been released in the us.  the video for
"shame on you" has already been aired on television in several
countries.  the second single from "shaming of the sun" will be
emily's "get out the map", a video for which has already been shot.

amy and emily have just wrapped up a short us theatre tour and an
appearance at the final lilith fair for 1997 and are now taking a
month off over christmas.  they will be back on tour again in early
1998, beginning with a brief tour on the us west coast in the last
two weeks of january.  indigo girls will then head to australia in
late february for a two-week tour; their sydney concert is listed as
an official festival event for the 1998 sydney gay and lesbian mardi
gras.

a tour aimed specifically at high school students is expected after
the australian tour, along with more college and club dates and a
stint with the 1998 lilith fair.  emily has also said that work for
the new album will begin in mid-1998, and amy and emily have both
mentioned that the next album will likely be a more folk-oriented
outing than "shaming of the sun".

for upcoming concert dates, check the shaming of the sun tour
archive (http://ftp.wi.net/~dreiser/ig/archivehome.html), the epic
indigo girls site (http://www.indigogirls.com) or pollstar concert
listings (http://www.pollstar.com).  concert dates will also be
posted to the indigo girls mailing list on a regular basis.


7. miscellaneous questions
==========================

7.1. what are all these acronyms?

some song titles, album titles, and phrases crop up so many times in
conversation that they are often abbreviated or turned into acronyms.

some of the more common acronyms include: igc (indigo girls content),
nigc (no indigo girls content), a&e (amy and emily), sf ("strange
fire"), nis ("nomads*indians*saints"), rop ("rites of passage"), so
("swamp ophelia"), sots ("shaming of the sun"), latul ("live at the
uptown lounge"), ws ("watershed"), ctf ("closer to fine"), tmf
("touch me fall"), jcs ("jesus christ superstar"), soc (stream of
consciousness) and hte (honor the earth).

other acronyms which are commonly used on the internet include: irc
(internet relay chat), btw (by the way), imho (in my humble
opinion), fwiw (for what it's worth), lol (laughing out loud), otoh
(on the other hand), and rotfl (rolling on the floor laughing).

there are, of course, many more.  if you are having trouble figuring
out what an acronym stands for, remember that it will usually be a
song title or a reference to some subject that has been under
discussion on the list recently.


7.2. is there any sort of list merchandise available?  can i organize
    to have some made?

every so often someone will arrange to have a batch of t-shirts,
bumper stickers, buttons etc made and sold on the list at cost.
these items are limited editions and only available under the terms
laid down by their creators (timeframe, cost etc).  currently the
"official indigo girls mailing list t-shirts" are being offered
roughly once a year.  if there are no list merchandise projects
underway when you join the list, be patient.  these projects are
often under development, so watch for announcements on the list.

if you want to organize one of these projects yourself there are
certain legalities to be aware of.  in particular, remember that the
name "indigo girls" is a registered trademark and that most pictures
of amy or emily (including album covers) and all lyrics are under
copyright.  before you go ahead with the production of any list
merchandise make absolutely certain that you are not violating any
copyrights.  you should also check that the list is in favor of your
project (see below).


7.3. i want to organize a project on behalf of the list.  can i use
   the list name in relation to my project?

before organizing any sort of list merchandise or community project
on behalf of the list you should first check that the list is in
favor of your project.   if you gain list approval you will be
obliged to keep the list up to date with the progress of your
project.  if there is widespread objection to your proposal you
should not use the list address (indigo-girls@netspace.org) in any
way relating to your project, either in its physical design or when
contacting indigo girls' management regarding the project.  if there
is dispute the matter should be referred to the list owners.  the
list owners also reserve the right to veto your use of the list name
at any time.  it should also be noted that the best way to contact
russell carter artist management is by writing them a letter, rather
than calling on the phone.


7.4. what are boots?  how can i get some?

a "boot", which is short for bootleg, is an unauthorized concert
recording.  boots come in two varieties - "professionally" created
bootlegs, usually released as cds which have been pressed in europe
under loopholes in copyright laws, and "homemade" tapes made by fans
who take tape recorders into concerts or obtain copies of soundboard
recordings of the show.  almost all bootlegs are created by the
second method.

the best way to get bootleg tapes is to arrange a tape trade with
someone from the list.  if you don't know anyone who has any boots
and you're interested in trading, the best thing to do is to send a
short message to the list asking if anybody is interested in trading
with you.  see below for the list policy regarding bootleg trading.


7.5. are boots illegal?

most venues ban recording equipment, both audio and video, and may
confiscate your tape recorder if they find it.  however, whether
bootlegging is actually illegal depends more on where you are and on
what you do with the product.  one thing is for certain - it is
always illegal to make a profit from one of these recordings!


7.6. what is the list policy regarding boots?

members of the list have asked amy and emily about the bootleg issue
and they have taken the "grateful dead" stance.  that is, they have
no problem with fans taping shows (depending, of course, upon the
venue policy), but you are on your honor not to sell the recordings.
trading is fine, and the list's policy reflects amy's and emily's
wishes.  boots are free to be traded for either another boot, a blank
tape, goods to the equivalent value, or the cost of the tape and
postage.  people selling homemade boots are not welcome on the list.
it is recommended that you don't do any business with someone
offering to sell you a boot because someone else will certainly trade
with you.  and in order to help out those new to trading, boot
traders are encouraged to take a blank tape in return for a recording
if the tradee has nothing to offer.


7.7. what are the "must have" boots?

there are a few early bootlegs which are recommended for anyone who
is thinking of starting a bootleg collection.  these include:
    - "tuesday's children" (1981), an early "studio" tape recorded in
        amy's basement
    - "color me grey" (1982/1985), amy's solo tape, initially
        recorded in 1982, a more widely circulated version released
        in 1985
    - "blue food" (1985), an early independent release
    - "live at the purple parrot" (1986), a much-circulated audience
        recording


7.8. what is a tape tree, and how do they work?

sometimes an exceptional boot or compilation tape will be of very
high interest to the list at large.  in order to make life easier for
the owner of the tape and to ensure that everyone who wants the tape
will receive a fairly early generation copy, the tape owner (the
trunk) will make copies for a few people (the branches), who in turn
make copies for everyone else (the leaves).  the trunk keeps the
master tape, the branches receive a 2nd generation copy, and each
leaf receives a 3rd generation copy.  this is called a tape tree.

typically trees will be announced on the list along with a list of
the names of the branches.  branches are usually divided either by
region, last name, zodiac sign, or some combination of the three.
when a tree is announced, it is good form to contact the person who
is handling your branch as soon as possible; they will let you know
what further action you need to take to obtain a copy of the boot.


8. acknowledgements
===================

this faq was created through the collaborative efforts of the
creative group known as jcsdoubled - jen lucero, christopher becker,
sherlyn koo, deb reiser and dwayne jarrell.  we rock!

comments, suggestions etc should be mailed to jcsdoubled at
igfaq@palin.mit.edu.

thank you also to the fearless founder of the current list, jude
shabry, to carolyn spidle for the lifeblood site, and to all the list
owners and members past and present.

and of course the biggest thanks of all go to our inspirations, amy
ray and emily saliers.

                                                          a + e = ig

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 20:32:40 -0500
reply-to:     carolyn e turett <ceturett@juno.com>
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from:         carolyn e turett <ceturett@juno.com>
subject:      lots 'o stuff

ok, so i have a few dumb questions, and since there are fewer people
aruond now that means that i won't feel dumb in front of quite so many .
. .

anyhoo, i know that there was that pic of the girls in publishers weekly
(i even have my own copy of it cuz my mom is a bookseller...) cuz of
daughters of the moon, sisters of the sun, but how exactly are they
associated with it?  and what is the book about?  (i know i should know,
but i don't)

ok, onto question # 2.  does anybody know who played harmonica on who's
so scared when disappear fear was singing with ig during the 5/29/97
concert?  i was there, but i don't remember.  i don't think it was sonia,
but who was it???  i'm killing myself trying to remember, so if anybody
knows...

and anyhoo, i agree with bethany...it's so lonely out here now that so
many people are away for the holidays!!  somebody has to have something
to talk about!!  hey jill -- howdy!!  no gina, yeah!!! :)  ok, i'll shut
up now....

thanx for putting up with my childish ignorance! ;)

love,
carolyn!

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~~ joan baez

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 21:42:33 -0500
reply-to:     carolyn e turett <ceturett@juno.com>
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from:         carolyn e turett <ceturett@juno.com>
subject:      people poll

in the baltimore sun there was a little article about the most intriuging
person poll and they listed a buttload of people on it . . . but ig
weren't there!  pooh!!  they got ellen and xena, as well as clinton and a
bunch of people like that, but no indigos.  how did we do (dare i ask?)?
but at least there is a bright side . . . spice girls weren't on the list
either! :)

carolyn

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 22:11:06 -0500
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subject:      re: lonely on the list!
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i'm here bethany!!!  if it turns out there is only two of us posting, we'll
keep the list jumping!!

peace,  karen

bethany wrote:

> i can feel those "lonesome vibes" comin' on already, with everyone
> slowly but surely taking off for the holidays. i wish i were going
> somewhere good like the rest of you all (notice, i refrained from saying
> ya'll! it would've been sooo easy), but i'm not...christmas is at the
> perry house (that's my house!) this year.  whoopee!
> anyhoo, i decided to post a message to the list so i can get excited
> when i see the 1 message coming through...(even though i know it's from
> my stinkin' self!)
> i'm just kidding...i'm not *that* lonely - buuut i would like to say
> merry christmas and happy new year to all o' my fellow indigo girls
> fans...you're a great bunch of people!
> oh, one more thing! thanks to all of the card senders in my group...i'm
> loving my trips to the mailbox!
>
> -bethany ;)
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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 22:47:07 -0500
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hkf's,

sorry for the tiny bit o' nigc...

it had been mentioned a bunch o' times a few months ago - but here's the
question - could any kind souls give me some info on that list devoted
solely to atlanta musicians...  it would be greatly appreciated!!!  i
just moved and lost all my previous info. about links & lists related to
ig....

so thanks for any help....
and also, i assume the volume on that list is pretty low - is it almost
as busy as the ig list or not even close??

thanks.....

and have a holly jolly holiday....!!!!
"the act of giving is far more fulfilling than that of receiving"
8-)
mikec

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 23:25:04 -0400
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o.k. i have a great story...one that will *hopefully* brighten
everyone's evening...(wait, it's dark out...ah well, you can't win em'
all!)..
tonight, i was listening to a couple of the listmember cover tapes that
i got in the mail today....(by the way, they're all kickin' butt! i
think that the i.g. should hire all of us next tour... ;)so, my 17 year
old brother and his punky friend walk in and hear a listperson playing
"crazy game.." i noticed right away, this dude's ears perking up..you
know?!  he took note of the glorious tuneage...(oh god, just call me
pauly)...and so, he says.."what's that song?!" i said (with a big,
happy, 'dear god, ryan likes an i.g. song smile!') "why, it's crazy
game...by the indigo girls!"  he looked at me like .."oh, man..i can't
believe this..."  i proceeded to play him the original (along with a few
others!), and man, he loved it. sooooo he waits till' my brother leaves
the room, checks to see if the coast is clear, and whispers.."hey
beth?!  can you make me a copy of that?!"  i'm so proud knowing that i
finally got through to them...this is a momentous evening, i tell you...
a true miracle! ;)

yaaaay!
-bethany ;)

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date:         sat, 20 dec 1997 23:02:09 -0500
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there are some of us out here, quiet yes, but still listening!
c.

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i was just wondering if anyone has a copy of the girls on lowell public
television. apparently there were some guys at the show from media one taping
the first two songs and they were going to broadcast them the next day. so if
anyone has this i would love to get it. i will trade stuff or pay for postage
or something. also any boots from umass, unh or the orphuem?   thanks!!
                                                     kristin

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hi everyone! happy whatever!
so i have been majorly lurking....but now i am officially coming out into the
sun...to ask a question: i know watershed is available over the inter-net, but
are there any video stores that carry the tape also? oh, and has anyone heard
anything about that high school tour that ig said that they were planning on
doing? i hope we get a thumbs-up for that one, especially in and around the
pittsburgh area...for no particular reason though ;)

julie

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i have 4 tickets to the indigo girls for thursday, jan 22, 8:00pm at the
paramount theatre in seattle. they are in the 10th row & off to the side.
(main floor, aisle 4, row j, seats 1-4 for those of you familiar with the
paramount layout) cost is $29.50 each which is what i paid with all the
service fees added on. if you are interested in a pair or all 4, email me
privately.

susan

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 03:35:50 -0500
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hey folks-

i'm forwarding this from the new michelle malone list - devil moon -
because i think it's cute & i know that lots of folks on this ol ig list
love michelle malone's music too!   :o)

happy holidays...
mel

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subject: [devil-moon] 12 days of christmas

time for some more christmas cheer :)))))))  thanks everybody!!

on the 12th day of christmas my true love gave to me.....

12 souls a' dimming
11 funny faces
10 hamlets swimming
  9 monsters stalking
  8 butter biscuits
  7 jesus's  comin'
  6 wild horses
  5 big black bags
  4 counting stars
  3 sure things
  2 green thumbs

and a strange bird in a pear tree!!!

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 07:34:03 pst
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in the post re: the dressing room requirements, it was noted there were to be no nabisco products.  does anyone know if there is a specific reason that caused the girls to boycott nabisco?

kim & rhea

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to identify the cage?
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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 07:33:48 -0500
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hey,

i have a favorite record store here in sunny cold pa and anyway, i asked him if it
was available and he got it ordered in, i had it in my hands in a week.  that and
live at the uptown lounge.  they were only 15.00 each too.

i don't know how cooperative the major record stores would be, but surely you
could ask  : )

btw, i have gotten alot of stuff that i ordered via the internet and had much luck
and no problems...fast delivery, i even won a contest at tour edge!!!  got a
titanium driver!

peace,  karen

plainj99 wrote:

> hi everyone! happy whatever!
> so i have been majorly lurking....but now i am officially coming out into the
> sun...to ask a question: i know watershed is available over the inter-net, but
> are there any video stores that carry the tape also? oh, and has anyone heard
> anything about that high school tour that ig said that they were planning on
> doing? i hope we get a thumbs-up for that one, especially in and around the
> pittsburgh area...for no particular reason though ;)
>
> julie
>
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i'm glad sherlyn reposted the food list for ig dressing rooms. i thought it
was pretty interesting. i don't know why no nabisco products. anyone?

call me crazy but that list of backstage catering requirements didn't seem
that demanding to me. did it?

i mean, 6 bagels, chips and dips, fruits, veggies and drinks? there's
obviously no non-vegan expensive items like meats, cheeses, seafoods, or any
alcoholic bevs, gourmet foods or sweets/desserts. no champagne and caviar like
for some of the classical music performers that often come to these venues, or
beer and liquor binges like some of the hard rock performers. i thought the ig
requests were pretty tame. they probably rarely get everything they've asked
for, either. also, i was thinking about how they arrive at a venue for sound
check mid-afternoon and don't leave town until after midnight- the morning of
the next day. so that didn't seem like that much food for four people, does
it?

(giggle) i've seen them take the fruit bowl with them in the bus for the
overnight ride, too. devilspawn dave* carried it, actually. and he was fussing
so- he does that, you know -wink- that he dropped a glass jar of salsa in the
street. a bunch of us heard the mini crash and went over to help him clean it
up but he was yelling for all to stay away from him. yipes, we were just
tryin' to be nice...

now, i really want to know who eats the 2 red delicious apples because that's
the only kind of apple i eat!!

*copyrights to sus.   ;-)

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from:         toye gillman <tgillman@ruralcom.net>
subject:      re: indigo dream
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i have the same dream over and over...i am sitting at a stop light and swamp ophelia is in my tape player.  it's summer and the windows are rolled down.  the music from my radio is very loud.  i look over and amy and emily drive up (amy is at the wheel) in a convertible.  they hear my music and motion for me to come over to their car.  i jump out, abandoning my car.  they are really cool and we start talking like we are long lost friends.  we all three drive away together, leaving my car behind at a red light.  we all three live happily ever after in indigo heaven...then my alarm always goes off--damn, damn, damn it all to hell!

toye
> so, there ya go.  go figger...a very odd ig dream.  :)

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i am here for the duration...
toye

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> i'm here bethany!!!  if it turns out there is only two of us posting, we'll
> keep the list jumping!!

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 11:17:07 est
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i'm here too! i'm new, so i may be a little slow, but i'm here! :)
dana

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 11:51:50 -0500
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hey all!

just wanted to say "me too"!  i'm here.  just kinda quiet 'cause i am
busily taping the orpheum show for my branches.  (tease, tease!)

here's a little igc for ya.  i spent two hours last night trying to play
hand me downs with a buddy of mine (who is now a total convert! <g>),
and it is starting to actually sound something like its supposed to.
this is a very exciting thing for me because i don't really know how to
play and this is the first song that i've tried to learn.  we also
mucked around with a couple of michelle malone tunes.  that was a blast!

ok.  i'm done rambling.  oh, wait, no i'm not.  since i'm talking about
guitars and such, does anyone have or know where i can find tabs for
either catie curtis or michelle shocked?

have a happy one!
dianne

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 09:21:56 -0800
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as of now looks like im joining this club.
are we faithful or what?!!


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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 12:21:38 -0500
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subject:      "me too!" <ha ha>

yeah, i'm here, but it's so sad that my box is not bursting with mail.  i
don't even care if it's stupid mail . . . i'm going thru withdrawl!

congrats to bethany for the conversion . . . and i can add in my own,
since they are such worthy moments.  i work at girl scout camp during the
summer, which is usually hopping with ig fans, but last summer there were
only 2 of us (gasp!  choke!!  but have no fear, i play guitar and am an
alto and she was a soprano, so it still worked).  but by the end of the
summer we had converted 15 or 20 people to the ways of the girls.  by the
end of the summer you'd walk into the staff house and one of my ig cds
would always be in . . . either that or one of the videos'd be on.  it
was sweet!

but moving on, does anybody know the answers to the questions i put up
yesterday???  hmm, you know, i think that perhaps i'll work on anutter ig
x-mas parody or somethin' . . . it's more fun that actually, say, writing
the 2 papers that i have due tomorrow.  so maybe i'll do that, but maybe
not.  it's more fun to be indecisive! :)

love,
carolyn

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 12:43:12 -0500
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subject:      ig recognition

i was talking with a guy in a really cool record store here in town
(finders for anyone familiar with the bg/findlay area of nw ohio) about
lilith fair.  he was listing off all of these artists that weren't on the
program but should have been (in his opinion).

i mentioned that the indigo girls had headlined many shows, but didn't
get much press.  then he suggested an unfortunate reality of the
entertainment business - only the photogenic people got a lot of press.
y'know, like sarah, jewel, tracy, etc.  as much as i love the girls, i
have to admit he's got a point.

yet another thing that pisses me off about our society....

anna

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 06:10:51 +1100
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hey everyone,

i'm leaving in 30 minutes, so i just wanted to take this
opportunity to wish everyone here happy holidays!  i hope
you all stay safe, happy and well this holiday season.

i'll see you all in the new year!  thanks for making the
first six months of my co-ownership, um - interesting. :)
just kidding, you've all been great.

okay, one last motherly note.  while i'm gone, remember:

- if you have an admin question, read the list faq/welcome
message which i forwarded to the list yesterday.  the
answer's probably in there. :)
- be charitable to one another, it's the holiday season.
i hope to come back to see three weeks of mail with no
flaming!  and if someone has a question, help them out if
you can.
- if the server goes down during the holidays, don't panic!
the netspace folks will start it up again as soon as they
can.
- try not to post *too* much nigc and/or personal chatter
to the list, please?

okay, i've really, really got to go.  i'll see you all next
year!

take care everyone and remember - happy happy!
sherlyn
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   and we're engaging in a miracle..." - lisa mccormick

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carolyn wrote:
> but moving on, does anybody know the answers to the questions
> i put up yesterday???

kindly forgive my "delete-happy clicker"... but could you repeat the
q's?

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 14:59:19 -0600
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i'm here for a long time too!!  speaking of dreams, i have a re-occuring
dream that indigo girls come to my school and play there and since i arrange
it all i get to go up and sing with them during closer to fine and got to
hang out with them the whole night!!  how cool would that be???  ok, there's
my dream...

beth halpern

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 13:25:37 -0800
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i think there are enough of us still here so that we don't have to feel
lonely!
peace...cindy :)

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does anyone know if curve is purely american or can we find it elsewhere?
any aussie listees seen it here? i've seen the photos and want to own
them!!!

thanx
helen

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 16:56:14 -0500
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hey everybody,
i just wanted to wish you all a happy holiday and say that i'm still here
too and am not planning on going anywhere. it is lonely without a lot of
people on the list. waiting patiently for the next ig show!

take care,
chloe

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if i owe you boots, and your name does not appear on the following list,
please contact me immediately!

amy barber
nick dickert
lisa crevoiserat
templept@aol.com (i need your name please to send the boots to you)
nancy hamilton
taps2much@aol.com (i need your name too please)
chelsea marchetti
meaghan mccurdy
kerry franklin

if your name does appear on the above list, fear not!  i'm working my fat
little @$$ off day and night to get them all done & out to you by christmas.
love you all!

by the way..... in case you couldn't tell - i'm here through christmas too!
:o)

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 16:52:44 -0500
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subject:      a new parody

i'm kinda proud of this one . . . it captures the eternal struggle
between the commercialization of the holidays and the true meaning of the
season.  it would have been better for last year's elmo craze, but i
couldn't think of anything this year that quite compares.  not as funny
as some, but hey . . . it has its charm.  happy holidays to all of you
dedicated folks who are still hanging in there . . .

love,
carolyn

(to the tune of let it be me)
let it be me

sticks and stones, battle zones
a single elmo on a single shelf for the night
children wail, parents fail
rose-colored glass begins to age and crack
while the parents try to fight and box for one dumb toy
and last minute shopping was not a good ploy
and from my neighbor's dear wife fran
i hear the strain of a pissed off (wo)man

let it be me (all i want is this dumb toy)
let it be me (it'll fill my kid with such joy)
let it be me-eeeeeeeeeeeee
even though it's not right, for this toy i will fight

it's commercialized and oversized
and we have no idea what holidays are about
well i see that too, and i'm telling you
it's something that does make me mad without a doubt
i've seen people killing people over this here doll
his cute giggles make for a violent mall
but the truth of the matter is
i still need elmo for my daughter liz

let it be me (all i want is this dumb toy)
let it be me (it'll fill my kid with such joy)
let it be me-eeeeeeeeeeeee
even though it's not right, for this toy i will fight

this here elmo, he speaks
and he has fuzzy cheeks
and my vision stays clear
to the mall i must steer
and i see big commercial giants have an awesome power
and they sit and laugh at us from their hugest towers
it's wrong to not keep the meaning near
but hell, i'll start the boycott next year . . .

let it be me (all i want is this dumb toy)
let it be me (it'll fill my kid with such joy)
let it be me-eeeeeeeeeeeee
even though it's not right, for this toy i will fight

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"i have stood here before inside the pouring rain with the world turning
circles running 'round my brain...i guess i'm always hoping that you'll
end this reign..but it's my destiny to be the king of pain.." --the police

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i gotta agree with pony:  hou is a beauty.  it carries a lot of meaning for me as it's the first ig song i really knew (two of my friends performed it and dedicated it to a good group of friends right before our hs graduation, <sniff, wipe tears, etc>).  i love the parallels you've emphasized between leeds and hou!  great!  there's a good bit to be said about being abroad and the sense of separation it creates...being in a different country can bring on lots of reflection and retrospection and all those different ways of seeing things...anyhow.  i do think hou has a different overall meaning than leeds. the first line "i went all the way to paris to forget your face" speaks of the intent to destroy the memory of someone she loved, someone who hurt her. but much of the rest of the song describes what she sees: history, centuries of lives past, remnants of people who were once so alive and filled with love and pain, now just cold stone statues, canvas paintings, stained glass windows..."there's just no medium for life"...except in living.  "so we must love while these moments are still called today".  she realizes there is no point in running away from her life, from her pain, from her past.  time will make history of us.  and she knows she must go back to her life and live it...
there's a lot of christian imagery in this song as well.  "passion play" refers to the crucifixion of jesus as does "half-moon bleeding its life like a lamb".  these lines, along with the idea of rebirth seems to suggest an illumination from god, that her life is a gift with reason and purpose and redemption...but now i'm getting into murky waters so i'll open it up for any other comments!  thanks for the thought provoking input, pony!  y'all have a grooovy evening.

amy

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subject:        re: leeds/history of us

there was something about this song (leeds) that kept nagging at me because it reminded me of something else...now, thanks to you wunnerful listees, i think i've discovered what it is!  the imagery in leeds reminds me a lot of history of us, especially the lines referring to the night/bleeding/churches/hotel rooms/ europe...for example, "from my hotel room, watching the half-moon bleeding its light like a lamb" and "steeples pierce the skyline 'til the last of it bleeds"/"until the last ounce of my spirit bleeds onto the pristine sheets of the hotel bed...".  also, seeing the "statues of lovers everyplace" reminds me of her feelings of "withoutyouness", being apart from her lover/family/friends/country.  the tone of both songs includes feelings of "nothingness" (cf.  "ashes to dust")...she also writes about violence ("smashed by the bombs..." and "16 black churches burning..."); interestingly, in both songs the violence is against a religious symbol (icons and churches).  hmm...what else?  the "bed of anxiety" parallels "this restless love" in some way... and "the absent sound of another day as it recedes" sounds sorta like "so we must love while these moments are still called today".  it seems that as emily travels through europe and is excited by the prospect of seeing all of the romantic beauty for which europe is famous, she finds that the continent has many of the same problems as in her own life and experiences...it's disillusioning for her. europe seems to bring out em's spirituality in spite of (or maybe because of) this disillusionment.  i can just see her in the decaying cathedral praying...<shivers> anyone else have interps. or different points to make?  bring 'em on-
i want to hear more about these two songs.  we hardly ever discuss
hou here on the list, but it has some beautiful imagery.  one of my
favorite lines is "there's just no medium for life".  wow, that woman
is a genius...=)  okay, time to quit rambling and get to bed...=p
peace, love, and devil moons,
pony

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don't have much to say, but i'm here to :)

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 17:17:03 -0500
reply-to:     carolyn e turett <ceturett@juno.com>
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from:         carolyn e turett <ceturett@juno.com>
subject:      re: me too!

a disclaimer:  if you didn't erase the questions i asked earlier, or if
you didn't know the answers then you can just erase this w/o reading it.
it's just a repost of them cuz a couple of folks said they erased them
before they read them.  sorry for the waste of space....! :)

for those of you who erased the questions, here they are again.  yes, if
i were a better fan i'd know the answers....

1)  does anybody know who played harmonica at the 5/29/97 wolftrap show
when sonia from disappear fear came out and sang who's so scared and
bring your own god with amy and em??  i was there, but i can't remember
and it is bugging me.  for some reason i'm thinking it wasn't sonia, so
who was it???

2)  i have my own copy of the ig pic in publishers weekly, and it was for
daughters of the moon, sisters of the sun, but how exactly were the girls
associated with the book and what is it about?

thanx to anybody who can help poor little me....i'm especially bugged by
the harmonica question!!!!

love,
carolyn

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houdy,
i'm kinda sorta new to the list and would like to meet up with all the
atlanta listees. i have talked with several of you on a personal note
already about meeting up a eddies attic on new years eve to see michelle
malone. anyway, anyone else that might be interested let me know, and
we'll set something up.
well,  happy holidays!


crickett

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o.k....did i mention that lima sucks?!  i can't find "curve" anywhere...
i swear, if i did find it in this hole of a place i'd die of a heart
attack before i even caught a glimpse of amy's mesh shirt... ;)
i read beth's post about her dream and it reminded me of an interesting
one that i had about a week ago...i said i'd never post my dreams but
this one's just too good...
o.k., so i'm at this arena, and i'm waiting....for something...i don't
know what...but there are a lot of people there...i'm pretty sure it was
an i.g. concert, but there was no stage...there were no guitars..no
nothin'...weird.  sooooo...next thing you know (old jed's a
millionaire...just kiddin' ;) amy's running out onto the arena floor
wearing lime green spandex pants (with a big ol' white stripe down the
side!) and a plaid button down shirt tied around her waist...strange..
and sooo, she grabs me and pulls me out there with her and starts
bouncing these bright fuzzy balls at me...i'm catchin' em', and running
around (with all of this fancy footwork..blech!) and i'm like "yeah!
look at me!  amy's bouncing these balls at me!  woo hoo!"  i'm really
thinkin' that i'm badness or something...thinking that people are
actually *jealous* of me!  i can't believe that...anyhoo...then the
screen changes to this hallway, and she's talking to me (in all
seriousness, as if the whole "ball thing" never happened...), but all i
remember is her saying the word "mississippi."  i think i'm mental. ;)
so folks, that's my demented mind for ya'...hope i didn't bore you too
much...aaand, my apologies to those of you who've already heard this
twisted tale.. ;)

take care!
bethany ;)

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i have to say it really does get my goat when i turn on mtv to see some baldy
talking about the lilith fair, and the artists that have new cd's out....and
not one mention of ig!!  i mean after that vh1 special, with the whole thing
about the girls bringing the whole fair together, i though there would be at
least something...especially with sots being so incredible. but no. denied
again.

julie

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hey all!

i'm here too.  and since everyone is so down i'm gonna try and spread some
holdiday cheer amongst you all.  i have finally gone to get my reprints
and now have 10 sets of 6 pictures each from 2 shows this fall (umbc and
geneseo, ny).  they are really excellent photos since i was front row in a
general admission standing only pit kind of deal and was about 3 feel from
the girls at any given moment.  so i had a list of lots and lots of people
from the list who wanted copies, but i of course left that in michigan, so
i'm gonna just open this up to everyone again, but if you are reading this
after maybe tuesday probably the offer will be full, so wait adn i'll open
it up again if there is more interest.  alright, so the deal is there are
6 photos in each set.  2 solo shots of amy, 2 of emily and 2 duo shots.
they are all 4x6 prints and on matte paper.  i've totalled the cost of
having the reprints done and come up with about $1.84 with tax.  so i'm
going to ask for $2.00 plus an sase (it doesn't need to be big but you
might want to find soem cardboard to prevent bending).  i'm not trying to
make money off of this but if you're concerned about the .16 cent profit,
feel free to send the exact ammount.  whatever.  but that's the deal.  i
have 10 sets but have already got 3 of them spoken for.  so i'll take the
first 7 interested people.  oh, and unless nobody is intereseted, i'd like
to keep it to 1 set per person.  okay that's it.  take care adn keep the
list alive!  listees united will never be divided!!!

oh and about that mtv photogenic (sp?) conversation. i must say beauty is
in the eye of the beholder.  i find amy and emily waaaay more apealing
than jewel and her lipgloss anyday!  we're gonna have to start our *own*
music chanel.

wait one more thing!  if anyone is willing to find an extra copy of the
ig cover on curve i'd be willing to trade a set of the aforementioned
photos plus pay postage and maybe throw in a few extra mystery photos i've
been keepign to myself until.  i thought fargo was more open-minded but
i've asked everywheree.  i miss ann arbor.  sigh.  someone help me out
please!

marivel

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sorry, i wasn't at wolftrap - can't help with the harmonica q.

but i have "the book"...

a&e were interviewed by one the editors... and it appears in the book.

it's full title is: 'daughters of the moon, sisters of the sun: young
women & mentors on the transition to womanhood'

it's a series of auto-biographical sketches and interviews about the
difficulties & challenges faced by girls while growing up - with both
young women of today and famous older women sharing their insights. it's
not "silly girly" stuff.

a&e's chapter is actually pretty interesting & insightful.

there'e my 2 - since i was the one who asked that the q's be
reposted...

:o)
peace & happy holidays...

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shelley miller you out there??? if so, can you email me? i've been trying
to get a hold of you, but your email address isn't working (unless i've got
the wrong one?)
there was a slight ig xmas card mix up..that's all:-)

                                                -heather

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....but the 5 or 6 of us who are still out here in indigo cyber-space
need something thought-provoking to do, so here's my question:

if you were alone on a desert island with your cd player and
could have only one cd to play forever and ever, which would
it be?  and why?  (of course, you would be free to pick absolutely
*any* album by *any* artist, but if you don't pick ig, then
shame on you!)  :)

as for myself, i just don't think i'd be able to choose.  there are
so many i absolutely could not do without, that if i had to pick
just one i'd miss all the others way too much!  (and since the
whole desert island thing is unlikely to ever happen, i'm not too
worried about not being able to pick one.)  but i thought some of
you might have one definite hands-down favorite you'd pick.
anyone wanna take a stab at it?  i thought it might give us
somethin' fun to do.  or maybe it won't.....i dunno!

also, this might be a stupid question that everyone already
knows the answer to, but what does amy (sometimes) introduce
sara as?  you know, she says, "the ___________ sara lee".
i think it's a three syllable word but i can never tell what it is
she's saying.  and another question:  what does it mean?
forgive me if i'm just a dork for not knowing this.

i guess that's it for now!  back to making christmas candles.

leigh ann  (whose kitchen floor is now covered in lots of different
colors of wax and is ready for a good scraping!)

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in a message dated 97-12-21 20:06:51 est, you write:

<< this might be a stupid question that everyone already
knows the answer to, but what does amy (sometimes) introduce
sara as?  you know, she says, "the ___________ sara lee".
i think it's a three syllable word but i can never tell what it is
she's saying. >>

fashionable.

1200 curfews would be my pick, i think.

peace, harmony & indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
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emily:  we call ourselves amy ray.  we'll be here all night.
amy:  that's right.  amy ray.  get used to it.
emily: i'm amy, she's ray.
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fashionable.  that makes sense.  i just could never make it out.
it sounds to me like she kinda runs it all together and it comes
out like "fasterbull" or something, and i could never figure out
what that was supposed to be!  thanks to everyone who answered
my stupid question.

leigh ann

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well since the list is so empty lately i thought i'd grace you all with my
presence...(and my correct capitalization skills.  i'm really trying...i
really do like the way "i" looks better than "i", though..."i" is very
poetic.) i'm pretty sure that amy says "the fashionable sara lee".  because
sara is so very fashionable with her red shoes.  at least i've heard amy say
that before.  and for my desert island cd...guess it can't be a two cd set,
can it.  i think it might have to be the self-titled album...just because i
don't think i could live the rest of my life without ever hearing "closer to
fine" again.  even though i've heard it live 9(?) times and have played it on
the guitar hundreds of times, it's on my list of the top ten best songs ever
written (along with joni mitchell's "both sides now" and dar's "when i was a
boy").  my mom was looking through my cd's and of course found "lesbian
favorites : women like us" and was really upset.  guess i better hide "curve"
and the lesbian history book my best friend here got me for christmas...cheer
up everyone! i must go find some christmas music for the guitar to spread the
holiday warmth.  by the way, great parodies carolyn.
                                         stephanie

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thos of you who picked up the january curve with ig on the cover should also
note the story on the "thrive" cd on p.14, including a picture of the cover.
relevant info: cooper seay originally wanted to do a concert benefitting
youthpride, but it fell through.  josh joplin picked up the idea of a cd
(now distributed through daemon) with atlanta artists (including a live ig
track) benefitting youthpride.  josh hopes for a follow-up featuring artists
that couldn't contribute to this one (michelle malone, kristen hall,
r.e.m. -- stretching to ga. artists, apparently).

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one cd...that is a hard one...how about narrowing it down to 5?

ani difranco... out of range
indigo girls...shaming of the sun
garrison starr...18 over me
catie curtis...catie curtis
disappear fear...disappear fear

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i think most of your chances to get curve are going to be at gay/lesbian
bookstores...

if you can't get a copy get a back issue of one...the address is in the
magazine...

and if you love sara lee then get the music issue which has an interview with
her and also talks about a&e..it came out a couple of months ago...

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ok,  i  just watched watershed for the zillionth time,  and i always
mean to ask you guys about emily's personality discription.  what is amy
talking about when she describes em as a strawberry?  i need to be
inlightened.

take it easy,
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hey y'all,

sorry for the blatant misuse of the list, but i'm looking for anyone who
has stayed or worked at camp archbald in pa.  (it's a girl scout camp)
i've been thinking about working there next summer, and i wanted to make
some connections/reminisce(sp?)/inquire about stuff, so....

please contact me...

lurve,
feather
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i ironically enought just received "watershed" as a christmas gift today
and was simply amazed and in awe while watching the energy and sheer
greatness displayed.  as for the strawberry reference, i was wondering the
same thing, it could be a reference to her kind of strawberry blonde hair
color or something else, i am not sure.  i love the tape and i am going to
watch it ten million more times i am sure.  does anyone have "live at
uptown lounge" ??  if so please tell me if i should invest (i think i will
buy it anyway though :)  ciao, clr

"i have stood here before inside the pouring rain with the world turning
circles running 'round my brain...i guess i'm always hoping that you'll
end this reign..but it's my destiny to be the king of pain.." --the police

on sun, 21 dec 1997, leslie robertson wrote:

> ok,  i  just watched watershed for the zillionth time,  and i always
> mean to ask you guys about emily's personality discription.  what is amy
> talking about when she describes em as a strawberry?  i need to be
> inlightened.
>
> take it easy,
> crickett
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i never been a big fan of this disc, but never did sell it just
because i thought it was a good mix and, when i bought it i got it
like incredibly cheap at tower.
well - fran told me why to save it and i tried it today - yes i am
procrastinating finishing my two papers (i got an extension due to my
conference in boston)

4.5 is mastered waaaay better that the original releases on cd. try
it. kid fears is phenomenial on 4.5, you can hear much more of a range
on the disc, including just a clearer mix of the instruments. umm, i
won't even tell you how ghost sounds, it does things to me many may
find indescent.

so if you've been wondering why you bought it - that's why - if you
need to ask someone for a gift - ask for this and if anyone is still
on these lists - wamc is b'casting mt stage tomorrow night (i assume
it's the ig show) online at www.wamc.org and it can be heard in the
berkshires in eastern ny/western ma.

btw - you can email me here or asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu - use this
address after tuesday! i won't have a 'puter and well..yahoo rocks
(the other addtresses will work - just not as frequently between now
and 1/5

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isn't 1200 curfews a double cd set?  you only get one (sorry to rain on
your desert island--maybe rain will help the desert, but not your cd
player)
--carol

ndygotigger said:
>
>1200 curfews would be my pick, i think.
>
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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 23:04:25 est
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i've had watershed for a couple of months now - i watch it as a ritual every
day i get home - and sometimes more - you can imagine how warped it is!!
i really enjoy the part when amy and em are describing each other (a segue
into "galileo" - that's great!!!) but i guess i never really wondered deeply
what they meant.  it is sort of abstract... em is a strawberry - sweet and
pretty and kinda pure; amy is black beans & rice - hearty, flavorful... you
know what i mean? these are sort of my takes on their personalities, at least.
btw, isn't the video amazing? i can't get over it. i'd never seen any of the
music videos before, and the home videos taken by the girls and their friends
are so neato.  when i'm watching their friends interacting with them (the hair
part, etc) i'm like - "that should be me! i should be in that room with amy
and emily!!!" if i think about it for a while, it's pretty disappointing....

i'm also considering getting "live at the uptown lounge" - anyone want to give
me their opinion on it? but you know, just 5 seconds of video footage of the
ig is enough to make me buy anything.

season's greetings,
~flora

ps - is there anyone else out there who used to detest black beans & rice, but
then saw that interview with amy where she says "that's 'cause that's what i
eat" (chuckle) and now eats this delicacy with a passion, all the while
thinking of amy??
oh, ok, i know i'm a little strange...

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 23:18:26 est
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ok, i was thinkin i would bring 4.5 'cuz its got clips from evry album
'cept sots & sf, so its got it perty covered.  but then i thought...i
might need some tchicovsky, or tmbg, or...garsh...well then i rememerbed
that you can make your own cd's of mixes with some company.  i wonder
just how long they could be?
i put lotsa ig (live stuff too), tchicovsky (romeo & juliet or piano
concerto #1?), orff (o fortuna), sousa (he *is* my hero and all, crazy
band freak--i don't care if he was sorta a sellout 'cuz he didn't really
want to write so many marches), tmbg (why does the sun shine, istambul,
i palindrome i, ana ng..'nuff for now), rimsky-corsakov-(scaherazade-2nd
part), oh gee...i'm runnin out of room, and never hit my 80's favorites
i'll guess i'll just not go on any three hour tours...
love,
  carol

ps--i do love 6 cd player random.  i only have 2 ig cd's in, but one is
4.5 so i get repeats and i heard joking twice with only one sond in
between.  oh well...

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 23:19:35 est
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aw, c'mon, 1200 curfews should be able to count as one cd - it's the perfect
one to take along to this desert island because it has little pieces from
every album ('cept sots, what a shame) so, the way i look at it, if you hear
one song from a certain album, then all the other ones from that album will
play in secession ( in your head, of course.)
wait, i have a better idea - instead of taking one cd to the desert island,
how about taking one person with you?
     - well, alright, that i can do.  if you insist.  i'll take amy.  dibs on
amy.
       wait, no, what about emily? i can't separate them! (this makes me think
of
       kittens at the animal shelter...)
oh, i can take two people??
     - great. who will i take, lemme think... i've got it!!  i'll take amy and
emily.

      dibs on them.  we're going to have a niiiiiiiiiice time on my desert
island.


sorry, for this extraordinarily silly piece of writing.  it freed me up a bit,
though.
merry christmas to myself!
anyone care to reply, please do.

peace
~flora

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 23:42:24 -0500
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i thought it was "illustrious".  now that i look at that word, is it a word?
lori

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