lifeblood: listlogs: 1997-12d

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date:         sun, 21 dec 1997 23:54:00 -0500
reply-to:     joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      christmas wishes, atlanta list info
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howdy folks!

thought i would contribute to the trickle of messages before i leave
for ky in the morning.  anyhoo,
someone asked about atlanta lists and such (sorry, i deleted that digest
edition).  if anyone is interested in subscribing to the atlanta
artists list (which has very little message traffic...and i guess i'm
partly to blame 'cause i just lurk for now), you can e-mail
majordomo@monsterbit.com and in the body of the message (and subject
line too, i suppose) type  subscribe atlartists
i think the addy for posting messages directly to the list is
atlartists@monsterbit.com
i know a list for michelle malone recently started up, but unfortunately,
i didn't copy down the listserv address.  i can hardly keep up with
this list as it is!  i believe sherlyn either started or manages (or
maybe both!) that list, so i'm sure your plea for such list info will
be answered.
i hope everyone out there has a happy, cozy, and safe christmas.

peace and warm fuzzies :)

joan :-d  (who's feeling kinda gushy tonight)

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 00:27:21 est
reply-to:     smileydev2 <smileydev2@aol.com>
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from:         smileydev2 <smileydev2@aol.com>
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subject:      sigc--indigo girls and girl scout camp
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>sorry for the blatant misuse of the list, but i'm looking for anyone who
>has stayed or worked at camp archbald in pa.  (it's a girl scout camp)
>i've been thinking about working there next summer, and i wanted to make
>some connections/reminisce(sp?)/inquire about stuff, so...

i don't know if this is list appropriate, and i am usually a lurker, but i
have become very curious and had to ask.  in the last two days i have had
three girl scout camp connections with ig-list people.  and so i thought i
would try and conduct a little survey.  i know a lot of people on this list
work at summer camps, but i wonder how many work at girl scout camps???
so...if you do, and care to admit it...where (what state) and what camp...and
did it influence your indigo girls listening in any way?  let me know if this
isn't an appropriate topic...but i am interested...and i have been having
interesting connections w/ gs camp/indigo people... so, anyone?  anyone?

-smileydev2
( a curious gs camp staff member...)

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 00:18:39 -0500
reply-to:     marival danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
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from:         marival danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
subject:      concert picts...
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hello again!

well any of you who feel all alone out there, all i have to tell you is
offer some photos and you'll get a pretty good idea exactly how much
community we still have out there on the list.  i got about 25 responses
in the time that it took me to go out to dinner and see a movie.  you all
are fast.  so as you can imagine, my 7 photo bundles are spoken for.  you
should hear from me in the next few minutes if you made the top 7.
otherwise i am totally willing to honor all of the requests, but it will
just take a little more time for me to get out to the photo place and have
them done.  probably after christmas.  so if you still want the picts and
didn't hear from me, give me a few days and hopefully i can get to
everyone interested.  happy almost monday everyone!

marivel

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 01:21:15 -0500
reply-to:     marival danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
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from:         marival danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
subject:      sandy ng...
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sorry for this...sandy i tried to e-mail you but i'm getting fatal errors.
something scary like that.  any idea why?  are you getting my mail?

marivel

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 02:17:06 est
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could it be that she's just incredibly yummy and is even better with
champagne?
love,
(the amazingly shallow) molly o+

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 02:20:16 -0400
reply-to:     rhcp@alpha.wcoil.com
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from:         bethany <rhcp@alpha.wcoil.com>
subject:      the first time!
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so...i think i might have a new topic for discussion...or maybe just a
new subject for story sharing - whatever you wanna call it.
it's obvious that we're all at a point in our lives where the indigo
girls and their music have become very important to us... :)  sooo, do
you remember where it all started?!  the first time you ever learned of
these glorious ladies?!  we all had to start somewhere.....
i know *i* remember it as clear as day...this story isn't funny or
interesting, so you've been forewarned...continue reading at your own
risk!
when i was still in high school my friend todd made me this tape....it
had a lot o' different music on it...he had great musical taste...really
varied...he liked a lot of different stuff.  there lurking in the midst
of r.e.m., u2, jim croce, and 10,000 maniacs were our girls...i still
remember sitting there during "hammer & a nail" nearly peeing my pants.
if i remember correctly, the i.g. songs that he included on *that*
particular compilation were "hammer & a nail," "secure yourself," and
"kid fears."  i asked him (in my most serious voice!)..."todd?! tell me,
my wonderful friend...who are the writers of these fabulous tunes?!"  :)
and so, you know the rest...since i was especially blown away by "hammer
& a nail," i ran out and bought "nomads*indians*saints." since that day
i've never been the same... ;)
thank god for todd...(pardon the goofy rhyme!) ;)
ta daaaaa...that's my story....not a great one, but a story
nonetheless....

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 02:40:26 est
reply-to:     fredumnow <fredumnow@aol.com>
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subject:      concert in phoenix?
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hi everyone,

my mother got into my email and erased (she said) a post about the girls
coming to phoenix, az or somewhere around here.  i really need to know when
and where they are coming, so if anyone knows please, please email me
privately.  and i will try to keep my mom off the computer.

thanx ya'll,
staci

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 08:15:08 -0500
reply-to:     rick hodgin <foxmuldr@indy.net>
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>if you were alone on a desert island with your cd player and
>could have only one cd to play forever and ever, which would
>it be?

this is a very good question.  i'll have to think about it today
and let you know later.  initially i'm thinking that if i could
have only one cd to play (of my ig collection) it would be 1200c,
but that's two cd's and i don't know if it counts...and if it
doesn't count then just disc 1. hehehe :)

but if i could choose *any* cd then i might want to go with
something else.  i really need to think about this.  i'll post
my thought-out answer tonight.  :)

>and why?

because 1200c is live ig.  it's their bare naked souls recorded mid-
performance, there's no "i didn't like that, let's do it again"
kinda stuff going on.  it would be more significant to me because it
is their essence.

- rick

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 09:44:40 -0500
reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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what was the first ig song you heard and was it the first one that
turnedyou on to the girls
my first song was galileo i seen the video and thought it was very
imaginitive and well done the girls were playing where i was living at the
time (msu) and i went and all nite i waited and wiated to hear that song
and ...         they never played it not even during a encore but i heard
other songs i liked and seen big fish ensemble and got both rop ig and
field trip by big fish

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 09:40:19 est
reply-to:     ndygotiggr <ndygotiggr@aol.com>
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subject:      re: sigc--indigo girls and girl scout camp
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from: ndygotiggr <ndygotiggr@aol.com>
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subject: re: sigc--indigo girls and girl scout camp
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i don't work at a girl scout camp, but i *attended* camp kolomoki in defuniak
springs, fl for many years.  (any other takers??????  i'd love to ask other
people what they thought of the interesting growth at the deeper end of the
central swimming area... camp crystal lake anyone?  <shudder>)

if i were not a girl scout, there's something i'd rather be... if i were not a
girl scout, a boy scout i would be!!!  (do they have butch scouts or do you
have to join campfire to do that??)

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
    -  president, grlchasr26 fan club
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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 09:44:54 est
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my first time.....  can one ever forget?  i bought the boys on the side
soundtrack because it had a melissa song on it, and listened to it all the way
through or grins and giggles...

i got to power of two and i was like wow thats a good song, looked at the
picture and read all about and i was like, who are these chicks?  one of them
looks like a man and the other one looks like a snob.  (well you have to
admit, for that picture, it's true.)  so fast forward a couple months and i
was in a record store in wichita falls, tx with my brother, about to embark on
a week-long circuit of texas (we called it a vacation.)  and we were scoping
tunes.  all i had with me was my cassette walkman, so i'm going through the
tapes, and i come across "i" and so out of curiosity, look for ig.  the only
album they had was 1200 curfews.  i figured i would be disappointed cuz it was
a double-tape and i've always been disappointed before when buying an album on
the strength of one song.  but i bought it anyway.  popped it in on the way
outta town and when i heard the first notes of "joking" i was hooked for life!
:o)

i'm done rambling.  congratulations if you made it this far - here's a rrrat
cookie for ya ~(:::)8>  hold 'em by the tails so you wont get chocolate on
your hands (right, grl???)  :o)

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 09:48:12 est
reply-to:     terrilee11 <terrilee11@aol.com>
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hi y'all! i'm home for the holidays, like the rest of you, and having a great
time. i want to wish everyone a very happy holiday!

i'm chuckling about everyone posting their ig dreams recently. it's funny
because we all have them but while fewer listees are looking, we feel better
about sharing them! the first time i had an ig dream i woke up feeling like i
had spent three days hanging out with them. very strange. i've had a few so
far, always about me and amy and usually emily is there too, once cooper was
there- someone analyze that! but typically we're hanging out with them and
just chatting, i get to ride in the bus, hang with sulli, etc. like part of
the family.

the silliest and funniest was the most recent one- where amy owned a bar- more
like i picture emily's flying biscuit- and outside the bar, no one recognizes
her. we just walk around together and no one blinks an eye. turns out she's
taking these college classes, art and gourmet cooking!!!!, and she takes me
with her to the campus and we walk all around the place, no one having a clue
who she is. hmmm, i wonder if with all the press pressure (notice how one word
is inside the other) she'd like a little anonymity sometimes. maybe amy's
dreams are like that too!

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 09:48:39 pst
reply-to:     rhea & kim <reebee@otherside.com>
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from:         rhea & kim <reebee@otherside.com>
subject:      live at the uptown
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get it.   it is a wonderful concert.  the person doing the interview leaves a bit to be desired.  but it is well worth buying.  you will find yourself watching it over and over.

kim & rhea

do we have to live inside its walls
to identify the cage?
                                                ferron

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 10:31:03 est
reply-to:     hunterj1 <hunterj1@aol.com>
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tuesday
dec 23, 1997
http://www.rockontv.com/index.html?mail

indigo girls

jude :)

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 10:34:06 -0500
reply-to:     "karen l. frey" <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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from:         "karen l. frey" <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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subject:      re: this might be hard....
x-to:         tony & leigh ann <junebug@aeneas.net>
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tony & leigh ann wrote:

> ..
>
>> need something thought-provoking to do, so here's my question:
>> if you were alone on a desert island with your cd player and
>> could have only one cd to play forever and ever, which would
>> it be?  and why?  (of course, you would be free to pick absolutely
>> *any* album by *any* artist, but if you don't pick ig, then
>> shame on you!)  :)
>> 1200 curfews!  it has the most of everything on it...i already listen
>> to it constantly~
>
love, karen  who was burning candles at church yesterday...beeswax in my
coat pocket!

>>
>>
>
>

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 10:34:03 -0500
reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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from:         deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
subject:      videos, guitar tabs, chatter, mm list, first
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plainj99 <plainj99@aol.com> wrote:
>i know watershed is available over the inter-net, but
>are there any video stores that carry the tape also?

tower video usually has it.

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dianne connell <tuesdayschild@pc-webonics.com> wrote:
>does anyone have or know where i can find tabs for
>either catie curtis or michelle shocked?

try the online guitar archive <http://www.olga.net/>.

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sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au> wrote:
>- try not to post *too* much nigc and/or personal chatter
>to the list, please?

please try to observe this request... i'm sure that all of those who are *not*
here would appreciate not having to come back to 500 "gee, the list is slow"
posts.  there really isn't anything wrong with the list being slow if no one
has any igc to contribute.

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christy ruby <cruby02@mail.win.org> wrote:
>does anyone have "live at uptown lounge" ??
>if so please tell me if i should invest (i think i will
>buy it anyway though :)

amy sings "blood and fire" and "all along the watchtower."  next question? :-)
the set list is at <http://musiccentral.msn.com/album/display/112048>.  you
can buy it for about $20 at:

   wolfe video    <http://www.gayweb.com/wolfevideo/indigo.html>
(1-800-get-wolfe)
   ladyslipper    <http://www.ladyslipper.org>    (1-800-634-6044)

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joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com> wrote:
>i know a list for michelle malone recently started up, but unfortunately,
>i didn't copy down the listserv address.

to subscribe to the malone list (<10 messages a day), send the message
"subscribe devil-moon" or "subscribe devil-moon-digest" to majordomo@smoe.org.

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the first time i heard ig was when i saw the "closer to fine" video on tnt's
late night video program in '89.  i went to see them at the birchmere a few
weeks later, and i was hooked!

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 09:51:18 -0600
reply-to:     richard halpern <halpern5@ccm.net>
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i just wanted to say that i am so impressed at the generosity of the people
on this list!  everyone is so willing to share ig stuff and stories and i
think it is totally wonderful.  so you all should pat yourselves on the back
for me for being so cool :)

beth halpern

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 12:09:09 est
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i remember closer to fine being played on the radio and i liked it, but never
bought the cd or anything.  when i started dating my first girlfriend in 91,
she owned strange fire and i borrowed it from her after hearing it just a few
times.  it might have been partially fascination with the whole lesbian thing
and being excited about my new lifestyle and wanting people to identify with,
etc..  but, whatever the reason, my roommate and i (i had also just left home)
made a tape with "left me a fool" over and over on one side and kate bush's
"this woman's work" on the other, and at night we would set it on continuous
play and leave our bedroom doors open and listen to it over and over.  my
first concert was that summer and from there i went out and got everything i
could get my hands on.  but in all fairness to my friend lisa (hi lisa!!),
none of my friends got as into them as i did, and it wasn't until i moved to
ohio in '94 and met this crazy, indigo-loving lisa that i slipped into an
obsession.  she provided me with all the music/video/information that i had
been lacking.  so she's the real culprit.  even now that i'm back in michigan,
we see them together regularly.

okay, since everyone is sharing their indigo dreams (even though we all know
that no one really cares about anyone else's dreams), i'll share one that i
had 2 nights ago.  i have been planning this really groovy gift for emily and
had just been talking about it to someone before bed.  so i was dreaming that
i was giving it to her at a concert and she was really excited about it.  so i
hinted that she might invite me onstage to sing w/ them as a token of her
appreciation.  so of course, she did (dreams are funny that way...) and i was
sitting in the middle of them, crosslegged on the floor, singing ctf. they
were both standing, btw.  i guess i was trying to impress them with my
creativity/individualism??  (i'm not really sure where jerry and sara were.)
i'll skip the middle part because it has to do with me following them
backstage and all of their stuff being stolen and is kind of long.  but after
a bit they went out to sign autographs for the people who had backstage passes
and i got in the line.  when i got to emily she had this huge book with the
names of all of the people who had ever sent her mail, asked her for an
autograph, etc., and she was asking people their names and a little bit of
info about them.  so she asked me my name and looked it up and, sure enough,
there was all of this stuff about me and a copy of an e-mail that i had sent
her (non-existent in real life). and i was like, wow, that's really amazing
that you keep track of all that.  she said it's so that she would recognize
her fans if she saw them on the street.  (i know, it makes no sense. it was a
dream :p)

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hey,

if there is anyone out there from atlanta (and i know you are there) please
help me this one bit of info.....i need to know what part of town eddie's
attic is in.  thanks a lot!

ilana

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now a question for y'all,

can this one cd be a tape???? because if so i would take a boot.  that boot
would most definitly be newport 1996 - why? because of emily's little flub
before winthrop - gotta love it.

ilana

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date:         mon, 22 dec 1997 13:14:07 -0500
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just a little bit of fyi, for those who haven't heard:

mountain stage (radio & internet-realaudio): dec 22 9pm e.t - ig :
   connect at: < http://www.wamc.org/tuningin.html >

vh1: dec 23 10pm - lilith fair-behind the music (rerun) (incl ig)

the view (abc)[b. walters interview show]: dec 31 - ig (rerun)

sessions at west 54th (cbs): jan 3 - ani difranco and tricky

ellen (abc): jan 7 - ig and sarah mclachlan  (!)

austin city limits: feb 28 - ig
                    mar 14 - nanci griffith

check local listings for times and dates (may change, etc)

my first ig experience: i saw them at newport ff in 91. i liked them a
lot - but became a lifetime convert when i heard the a cappella of paul
simon's "an american tune" - i literally got chills.

and as an interesting side note: i was sitting near someone who brought
a baby to the festival. the baby was fussing (tho *thankfully* not
crying, or making much noise). when ig started singing "american tune" -
the baby just kind of stopped fussing and got this glazed looked in her
eyes, like she was in a trance or something. when the song ended the
baby sat there quietly thru the applause, and when she realized that ig
were gone - started screaming and crying! yeah, they finally took the
baby home after the crying started. ig fans start young! <g>

:o)
peace & happy holidays...

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my first time- wow, it actually took me a while to remember. but i think it
was something like this- i heard "i'll give you my skin" on the tame yourself
album and really liked it a lot. then a little while later i heard "galileo"
on a college radio station. i went out & bought both rites of passage.
i listened to it for about a month & then it disappeared to the bottom of my
cd shelf. about a year or so later, 1200 curfews comes out & i receive it for
a birthday gift and fall utterly under their spell!!

desert dilemma- ok, how did i end up on this deserted island anyway? how long
are the batteries in my discman going to last? someone else said that it's a
tough choice & listed five, i have to follow suit, otherwise it's impossible.
*1200 curfews *blondie's parallel lines *sarah's fumbling towards ecstasy
*if i were a carpenter *michelle's beneath the devil moon
ok if i had to limit it to one, devil moon would be the one. ;)

peace,
  rick
*if you're falling, you're falling, come calling to me
i'll give you my skin...*

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hey all..
  doesn't it just feel like deja vu??
with all the recent "new threads" happening??
wasn't it just a little bit ago we wnt thru the desert island thread???
and the "where were you the first time " thread..
i'm not flaming anyone here..ok?
i just think its funny how we always come back to the same topics as new
people join..mayby thats why the old timers aren't posting much..
so the question is..who can predict the next thread that we've been thru(
i know its not the "whose the biggest slut thread..sbm and i didn't start
that one until april so we have time to work up to that one over new
years..just make sure you take notes..heh heh heh)..

merry merry to all
and remember..when yer laying ( lyin??same difference) under that xmas
tree, haunaka(sp???sorry d!) bush, watch out fer those needles.
pooh

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okay, i have a question which maybe someone can answer.  i'm pretty new here,
but i doubt that this has ever been asked before (is this ok with you, pooh?)
now, i know amy the animal lover has at least one dog but does anyone know the
dog's name? or "breed"? no partick reason why i'm asking, besides the fact
that at a concert in october there was a dog waiting outside with the bus and
gear and stuff, and one of the crew called it "beatrix," i think.  and i think
she was black, poodly looking.  (i can't imagine amy having a poodle, can
you?)  anway, that was a silly question, but maybe it will wake some of you
up...

now that i'm here, here's another one... why is emily not a vegetarian??  i
know amy is; last time i heard, em wasn't, though.  i'm not necessarily saying
that veggie is the only way to go (well, it is for me, and hopefully many of
y'all out there too;-) )
but it seems strange that as both of the girls have so many of the same
beliefs and are together so much, that their eating habits aren't more alike.
wait, maybe emily is a veg? last time i heard she wasn't was a while ago,
maybe she converted?

season's greetings
~flora

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the first girls' song i ever heard was "closer to fine." mtv would always play
it real early in the morning while i was getting ready for school (this was
late 80's/early 90's) and i loved the song. i have been a loyal, diehard fan
ever since.

kasey

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on mon, 22 dec 1997 10:34:03 -0500 deb <indigo@mindspring.com> writes:

>dianne connell <tuesdayschild@pc-webonics.com> wrote:
>>does anyone have or know where i can find tabs for
>>either catie curtis or michelle shocked?
>
>try the online guitar archive <http://www.olga.net/>.

actually, i check there from time to time, and they don't have catie
curtis.  :(
if anyone finds tabs for her stuff, please let me know.

anna

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does this desert island have electricity? is there a store where i can buy
batteries?  hey -- can i bring my cd player?

molly o+

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ok, looks like i can check my e-mail from my parents house after
all...yay! i also rented a piece o' crap guitar today so i wouldn't go
insane: it buzzes 9th fret and up, but its better than nothing...
igc, or lack of it: i saw the 25 most intriguing people issue of people,
and they were nowhere to be found - nor were many of the people on the
web-voting thing: i guess it was just a scam or something...
i saw danielle howle on friday  night- the tantrums rocked! it was cool
hearing some of her older acoustic songs getting the full band
treatment. she came out and chatted w/ me and my friends afterwards. one
of the bands that opened for her was really good, too: they're called
the white, and it was only their 3rd gig, and if you are in the dc area
you should check them out...anyway, gotta go...
sarah
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i'd just have to sink along with my entire ig collection of cds...

toye

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howdy doo dah day everyone...

yup you got it...my brain is totally fried with finals and whatever but i take
my last one in 3 hours...yeah...i got stuck with the monday night
final...aaaaack...

anyway...

first of all...i know that almost everyone that i've ever talked to has liked
watershed the most but i have to say that uptown lounge is def the best!
when amy is playing blood and fire...ahhhhh...it is pure emotion!  and when
michael stipe comes out for kid fears...it had my roomate crying...
i admit that it's more for the people who like the music aspect of it instead
of the whole conversation thang but it gives the feel of being at a local club
watching them play...

ok...so enough rambling...i'll talk to yall later

ruthie <-- who is wondering why the volume goes down when she finally has time
to read the list...heheh oh well...

chloe...call me!

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hey everybody,

a kind person typed up the entire curve article for the newsgroup and
since we're all kind friends, i don't think she'd mind if i forwarded
this to you all.  so hopefully with this and the photos that lynda
scanned for us all, we who cannot currently get a copy of curve (me
bitter?  yep ;)) can get an idea.  here we go:

indigo girls- amy ray    by shirley liu

for more than a decade, the ig'gentle harmonies and stirring lyrics have
given voice to the anger, love, fear and confusion of our community.
today, their mainstream popularity brings that message to the masses,
but their passion remains intact, augmented by their maturity and a
still-growing sense of activism. in the following interview, ar speaks
with down-to-heart charm and candor about her relationship with emily,
the honor the earth tour and her own spiritual path.

sl- in shaming, it seems that for the 1st time you and emily use
gender-specific pronouns.

ar- i've been gender-specific on records before, in "chickenman" i'm
very specific-i went looking for a girl. and then in "fugitive" it's
obvious i'm talking about a girl. i've been gender-specific when i've
wanted to talk about one particular relationship or incident. a lot of
our songs are about several different people, so i haven't been able to
be as specific.
on this record, our indian activism spurred a feeling that we dont have
any time to waste-you better just say what you feel and be as blunt as
possible. i think i used to write a lot more abstractly in the past. the
older i get, the more outspoken i get, the more blunt i get, because i
just dont feel its worth it anymore not to be that way. our activism,
especially with the zapatistas [rebel fighters] in chiapas, mexico, has
been an impetus to just stand up and say what we feel and be very direct
about it.
we've seen people in the gay community that have suffered for their
preferences and their beliefs. but sometimes when its right around you
in your own community, it doesnt impact you as much. when you step into
somebody else's community and see something, and then go back to your
own community, you go, "oh wow, okay." thats one thing about the
zapatistas i liked so much. they're very interested in people learning
from them and going back into their own communities and working on what
they need to work on.
emily and i spent several years focused on activism, and in our year
off, we mulled it all over, thought about it and wrote songs. emily
especially. i've always been pretty outspoken and pretty willing to talk
about everything, but emily had a tendency to be more scared about
privacy issues. and now she's just like whatever. [laughs]

sl- have you been out since you were young? what was your coming out
experience like?

ar- [chuckles] i never knew i was doing it. i never thought about it. i
actually fell in love with a woman in high school but didnt consummate
it until a year later...we had a very long courtship. by the time our
relationship became physical, my mom had already asked me if i was gay.
at the time, i had no reference to what gay was. so i said, "well, if
i'm in love with this woman, and if it means i'm gay, i guess i am." but
i still had just broken up with a boyfriend and i dated guys after that
too. i just didnt know what i wanted. i felt that whatever you fall in
love with is what you are. my family was slow to accept it and feel like
talking about it, but now they're in a great place.

sl- how were your friends?

ar- there was a small period of time, early in college, when i was
scared to tell anybody. i was aat vanderbilt the first year. then i
transferred to emory. i told my close friends. i told people as soon as
i figured it out. i wasnt willing to commit to anything- out of fear,
and growing up and having all sorts of problems, not just who i was in
love with.
i finally felt like i had completely come to terms with it when i told
my grandmother, which was only about 4 years ago. my grandmother knew,
but we had never talked about it. she's one of the most important people
in my life. so until i could sit down and talk with her and say, "can i
have your blessing on this?" i wasnt going to feel completely honest
with my family. and i did, and she was great i was so out to everybody
and in magazines, etc., but we had never sat down and talked. that to me
is the ultimate. if you haven't sat down and talked with people that
you're closest to about this, then you are not really out yet. thats how
i feel.
emily was always a little bit behind me. i told her i was gay and she
wasnt gay yet. [laugh]

sl- there's always the question, were you and emily ever involved?

ar- no. everybody always asks that but no one believes me. you think we
would have stayed together this long if we'd ever been involved in a
relationship? no way. [laugh] we have the perfect relationship- a great
business relationship and a great friendship. and she's not my type and
i am not hers.

sl- i'm sure our readers would like to know what your type is.

ar- i dont know anymore. i'm single and i just had an 8 years
relationship. it was a very heart-breaking moment of my life to break up
with that. i dont know what my type is, i'm searching. but i want
someone...[gently] who's kind. thats what i found out.

sl- who is your ex-girlfriend, if you dont mind saying?

ar- who is she? [pauses, laughs]cooper. her name is cooper. she's in a
band called viva la diva.

sl- going back to your relationship with emily, you both work
independently and then come together musically. how did that system
evolve?

ar- since the beginning, we've been so different from each other and our
musical styles have been different. from the start, there were very
distinct roles, musically and business-wise. we never talked about it.
it just fell into place.
when we first started, emily was much more knowledgeable musically and
still is. but i've caught up a little bit. business-wise, i had more
business acumen, so i was the one who said we should do this and that.
over time, we've crossed into each other's worlds.
we collaborated once when we were really young and it didnt work out
very well- it was kind of forced. i think we realized that we needed to
write in our own separate worlds in order to have identity. thats what's
kept us together. we can express ourselves without having to compromise
too much.  its like 2 separate records sometimes.

sl- have you ever considered doing a solo album?

ar- when we both have a lot of time off, we do side projects. its fun
for us- its nothing that would threaten us. i've considered making more
of a punky record. but every time i think about it, i ask, "now who
would i want to play with me?" and its always emily. its true! because
emily can adapt to that style. it would be fun to do a side project that
is me and emily but its called something different, and its really
different.  the problem is, i could never do emily's side projects. hers
would be something like jazz or blues, which i couldnt do. i think she's
interested in writing with other people and doing movie sooundtracks.
the problem is, we dont have time. between all the politics and our
touring, when would we do a solo album?

sl- what kind of political projects have you been involved in lately?

ar- we're doing the honor the earth tour again. we started with the idea
in '91. we did a few shows called honor the earth back then, geared
towards trying to work with the indian community for environmental
changes. on a purely pragmatic level, indians are on the forefront of a
lot of environmental battles because many resources are on their land-
uranium, coal, timber. and because of their sovereign state, a lot of
state regulations and environmental laws can be bipassed by big
corporations. the multinationals try to take advantage of that and use
indian land for waste storage, but they dont follow safe practices with
their factories, mining, logging, etc.
most of the problems that we have right now in the states derive from a
system of imperialism-meaning sexism, homophobia, religious intolerance.
i think all of that grows out of the way the country was started- the
manifest destiny, colonization. until we get right with the indians and
start over with our whole way of thinking, as far as who deserves to
have what and be where, i dont think we'll be able to change all the
other things. we need to go back to the beginning and re-focus.

sl- when you wrote about your honor '95 experience in the journal
"indigenous woman", you refer to the song "shed your skin". it seems
there's an inter-twining of the message of activism and shedding our
skin.

ar- i wrote "shed your skin" after my breakup with my ex about how
important it is to go do your thing and celebrate it and celebrate
yourself. the growth we experience through all that pain is really
important. the indian stuff enters into it because it was happening at
the same time and there were some of the same sentiments. my dedication
to activism took away from my relationship. i found it important to say,
"look, what i've been involved with has given me some freedom in  my
heart and soul that i've never experience. you should find the same
thing."

sl- that song is my favorite on shaming. do you have a personal
favorite?

ar- well, "scooter boys" was a really important moment for me. it was
completely improv. i hadnt finished the song, emily didnt know it at
all, andy stochansky [ani's drummer] was playing drum with us that day
and had never heard it. we just started playing and all of a sudden we
got into this groove. i said, "turn the tape recorder on" and we
recorded it- thats the song you hear on the album.so there are
ssentimental reasons why that song is really close to me.
i also love "everything in its own time" because its so different. the
writing reminds me of old emily, when we first met. its a certain kind
of ballad- melodramatic, with hispanic-sounding chord changes. she used
to write more like that in the old days, when we were first playing
together.

sl- i heard a rumor that you wrote "hey kind friend" for ani difranco.

ar- [laughs heartily] i dont know if i should say that. ani would
probably kill me... yeah, its a friendship song. its not just to her,
though. i hooked up with her for a few day because our bassist sara lee
was playing with them. i got to know ani better through that
experience.
it was a hard time in my life and i went out with them for about a week.
they kind of save me, that whole group. and i didnt know them well.
sometimes what you need is the company of strangers. so that song was
written in reflection of that time...ani, she's a good girl.

sl- have you ever thought about collaborating with her?

ar- oh, i'd love to collaborate! but i think she's a lone horse. she and
andrew, her boyfriend, locked in that little studio like mad scientists
with all their clothes off or something... like they've gotten down to
the most primal aspect of their being and they're creating art. thats
what i picture. i dont know how i could fit into that, you know?
[laughs]  her self-determination is very inspiring though. it was an
inspiration to watch her work in the studio. technically i saw her do
some cool things-different tricks with sending your vocals through the
speaker and singing again, having a weird background going and using
loops in general, vocal and drum. what happens is you hang around with
some artists and you trade ideas and thoughts without even knowing it.
you inspire each other to go forward with what you're doing.

sl- in shaming there's an almost palpable spiritual element that
underlies your songs.

ar- i'm very spiritual and so is emily. we were both raised as
christians, although neither one of us really claims that anymore. i've
always had this weird relatioship with being raised to believe in jesus
and respect jesus as a historical figure, but feeling a pull towards
something else, ever since i can remember. i find my idea of god to be
infused in everything, animate and sometimes inanimate. its around me
all the time. i feel like its a part of me and i feel the strenght of
that.  its more like a creator; its definitely a sexless being. i dont
go for the goddess or the god, i go for the creator. my sirituality has
always been the richest part of my life.

editor's note: there's more! because amy spoke with us so extensively,
we elected to run this story over two issues; the second half will
appear in feb/ march.

claudine

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i just find myself watching amy's performance of blood and fire with emily
looking on in the background and thanking all the powers that be for
prompting them to make a video before amy stopped doin' that song.  does
anyone know of other video taped performances of that song?  it's worth
the $20 for that couple of minutes alone!

marivel

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hello all,

i have misplaced the photos that were scanned of the curve article....can
anyone send them to me?  i would appreciate this!!!  thanks!

maurene

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didn't ya read my post???i said it wasn't a flame..
i said wasn't it like deja vu' that when we get new people we all tend to
go thru the same thought process..
ya know??

the island thread??
the "where were you the first time?" thread..

i meant ..great minds think alike..
it wsn't a slam or a flame to anyone..

we all did this..now its yer turn..kinda like all fans are the same at
the core?????doesn't matter how old or where from??
why do you all have to be sooooooo serious and think i'm dumping  on
ya...
please lighten up a little.

no wonder the old timers are so quiet

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i like this new discussion topic....the first time i ever heard the indigo
girls would have to be when i was 9 years old when the only music programming
i was aloud to watch was vh1.  i remember always seeing their video of closer
to fine and everytime i would say that i was going to catch their name at the
end of the video and then miss it.  i finally figured out who they were and
have been in love with them ever since.
~peace~love~indigo~
        mary ellyn

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> sooo, do you remember where it all started?!  the first time
>you ever learned of these glorious ladies?!

i remember it very clearly.  i was going to a nearby (about 40 miles
away) college town with a friend of mine and she whipped out indigo
girls (self titled) and popped it in the tape player.  i heard ctf
and immediately fell in love.  :)  we listened to that tape all the
way up there, all the time we were there and all the way back.  i
went out and bought it the next day (the local record store had to
order it) and i got it in about a week.

the rest is history.... :)

- rick

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i first ran into the indigo girls because i was a big r.e.m. fan and michael
stipe had done kid fears. i read about it i think in rolling stone or
something and ran out and bought the album (ahh, the good old days of after-
school jobs, no girlfriends and no car insurance!). but once i sat down and
listened to it i was entranced by the whole album. so i went out and got
strange fire and have been buying everything ig i can get my hands on ever
since!

i lucked out and found reverse-1 live when it was first distributed, and it
has always been one of my favorite non-general release ig things. i've seen
several people mention american tune, and i have a question. now i love the
song, and actually my wife and i do a pretty good job of long-drive harmony on
it. but doesn't it bug anyone else that a & e go noticeably out of tune during
the second-to-last verse? it's not caterwauling, but it sure ain't good. in a
way it warms my heart -- they are human! -- but i also am surprised that the
record company was willing to release it, even as just a promo. does this bug
anyone else? thoughts?

happy holidays, everyone!

- paul

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<<i saw the 25 most intriguing people issue of people,
and they were nowhere to be found - nor were many of the people on the
web-voting thing: i guess it was just a scam or something...>>

i don't really think that it's a scam.  i think that it's a lot more likely
that the snail mail voters who returned the entries from the magazine out-
numbered the internet voters.  if half of the actual readers voted, we
wouldn't have had a chance.  next year we'll have to get the address and
return a couple thousand votes for amy and emily.

molly o+
(anyone notice how many times i've posted today??  it makes me realize how
much time school actually takes up.)

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what is this mt stage everyone's been talking about? can someone from
atlanta tell me how to get it (considering atlanta's lack of radio
stations).  also, what's this about the atlanta get together?
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in a message dated 97-12-22 14:11:25 est, fauna88@aol.com writes:

<< a concert in october there was a dog waiting outside with the bus and
gear and stuff, and one of the crew called it "beatrix," i think.  and i
think
she was black, poodly looking.  >>

i can answer this one!!!!!!!!!  beatrix belongs to emily.  at valdosta, when
emily finally arrived, her friend (gf?  i'm not sure) had beatrix on a leash
when they got out o' da car.

peace, harmony, and indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  ~novitiate of suzanneglassism
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and he said, cause you're in my front yard!
boy did i feel as white as the snow!"
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where do you get 4.5? is it expensive?

at 07:40 pm 12/21/1997 -0800, you wrote:
>i never been a big fan of this disc, but never did sell it just
>because i thought it was a good mix and, when i bought it i got it
>like incredibly cheap at tower.
>well - fran told me why to save it and i tried it today - yes i am
>procrastinating finishing my two papers (i got an extension due to my
>conference in boston)
>
>4.5 is mastered waaaay better that the original releases on cd. try
>it. kid fears is phenomenial on 4.5, you can hear much more of a range
>on the disc, including just a clearer mix of the instruments. umm, i
>won't even tell you how ghost sounds, it does things to me many may
>find indescent.
>
>so if you've been wondering why you bought it - that's why - if you
>need to ask someone for a gift - ask for this and if anyone is still
>on these lists - wamc is b'casting mt stage tomorrow night (i assume
>it's the ig show) online at www.wamc.org and it can be heard in the
>berkshires in eastern ny/western ma.
>
>btw - you can email me here or asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu - use this
>address after tuesday! i won't have a 'puter and well..yahoo rocks
>(the other addtresses will work - just not as frequently between now
>and 1/5
>
>
>
>==
>
>mike reynolds
>html author, journalist
>http://130.111.112.21/~asl/mike.html
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>get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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>speaking of summer camps...does anyone know about eagles nest camp in
pisgah forest, north carolina?

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what is this, and how can i get it?

>i lucked out and found reverse-1 live when it was first distributed, and it
>has always been one of my favorite non-general release ig things. i've seen
>several people mention american tune, and i have a question. now i love the
>song, and actually my wife and i do a pretty good job of long-drive
harmony on
>it. but doesn't it bug anyone else that a & e go noticeably out of tune
during
>the second-to-last verse? it's not caterwauling, but it sure ain't good. in a
>way it warms my heart -- they are human! -- but i also am surprised that the
>record company was willing to release it, even as just a promo. does this bug
>anyone else? thoughts?
>
>happy holidays, everyone!
>
>- paul
>
>*********
>paul zastrow
>des moines symphony
>221 walnut
>des moines, ia 50309
>515.243.1140
>1-888-maestro
>fax 515.243.1588
>paul@dmsymphony.org
>www.dmsymphony.org
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hey ya'll,
        the first time i ever heard the indigo girls was on the radio, it was
actually a really crappy station in '93 or something.  anyway i heard
closer to fine and i was like wow, this is good.  at the end of the song i
heard them say "this was the indigo girls with closer to fine".  the next
day i went and bought the 1st cd.  a few weeks later i heard "least
complicated" and loved it and bought that cd.  later i found out that
mparents have loved the girls since the 80's (we live in atlanta) which is
cool.  it's something my mom and i have in common.  well there's my story.
        oh yeah, how do you get the quoptes and stuff in your signature? i've
wanted to do that and the only way i know is to re type it every time...
                                        chelsea
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i am between you and your ambition, i am a poster girl
with no poster,
i am 32 flavors and then some..."
-ani
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that is not what i do,
i a'int no damsel in destress,
and i don't need to be rescued"
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eddie's attic is in decatur.  i might be there new years too
for everyone else, is anyone planning on going to the dar williams concert
on jan 7th at the variety playhouse? i was in little 5 points today and i
saw signs for it everywhere.-chelsea

at 12:42 pm 12/22/1997 est, you wrote:
>hey,
>
>if there is anyone out there from atlanta (and i know you are there) please
>help me this one bit of info.....i need to know what part of town eddie's
>attic is in.  thanks a lot!
>
>ilana
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hey all,
alright, semi-important stuff first. for everyone in the nyc area, ig will be
on on tour on channel 13 (pbs) on friday at 1 am.
and as for the first time i heard ig, i actually was really interested in them
before i ever heard them. being the online junkie that i am, i was looking at
a friend's aol profile that was filled with ig quotes. the one that really
caught my attention was from strange fire; "when you learn to love
yourself...etc." i was inspired to search for ig lyrics on the web (like i
said im a junkie), and i was so impressed that i decided to buy sots. a few
days later i was listening to the radio and i heard this really great song,
and i thought, "wouldnt it be funny if that was ig", and wouldnt you know it,
it was soy. i ran out and bought sots the next day, and the rest of the albums
pretty soon after that, and ive been hooked ever since.

love
erica  (who is getting jealous of all the college students done with finals
while as a high schooler, she still has another month)

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you guys might like this

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><html><pre><font color="#000000" size=5><b>john lennon songwriting contest
>announces 1997 winners
>
><font color="#000000" size=3></b>    new york, dec. 22 /prnewswire/ -- the
>winners of the first annual john lennon songwriting contest were announced
>today by david sonenberg and dasventures ltd.  a total of 120 winners were
>chosen and over $200,000 in cash and prizes will be awarded.
>
>    elton john, joan osborne, a tribe called quest, ashford and simpson,
>bjork, brooks and dunn, jimmy cliff, judy collins, ani difranco, amy grant,
>fugees, indigo girls, larry carleton, tom chapin, diana king, dave koz,
lorrie
>morgan, nas, raul malo, john popper, raffi, joshua redman, busta rhymes,
carol
>bayer sager, jon secada, michael w. smith, spacehog, spin doctors, pam
tillis,
>luther vandross, junior vasquez, hezekiah walker, bryan white, and cece
winans
>were among the executive committee members responsible for the selection of
>the winning songs.
>
>    in agreement with yoko ono and the estate of john lennon, the contest not
>only promotes the art of songwriting, but also assists in the discovery of
new
>talent.  in a show of support, yoko ono said, "i hope this contest will
>encourage, inspire and help the songwriters of the world to share their dream
>with us."
>
>    the twelve grand prize winners will receive $2,000 in cash, $5,000 in
>yamaha project studio equipment and a $5,000 advance from emi music
>publishing.  this spring, one grand prize winner will be chosen by the
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in a message dated 97-12-22 02:19:33 est, rhcp@alpha.wcoil.com writes:

<< do
you remember where it all started?!  the first time you ever learned of
these glorious ladies?!  >>

hey y'all - this was discussed on the list just a few months ago, and
everybody had some really cool storied to share.  for me, i was a 28year old
mother of almost 2 yr. old twins in 1989 when i first heard the girls.  i had
a good buddy at work who was really into music, and she brought me a tape one
day with the self titled album on it.  that music really struck a chord in me
and helped center me after a day in corporate america.  for the longest time,
i would take the kids outside and play with them in the yard every single day
while listening to that tape.  one of those days my groovy  young neighbor
came over (hi michelle!), we pretty much bonded over the girls, and ten years
later i'm sitting here living proof.  boy does that sound familiar.....

not listening to the girls for the first time in a long time, and hoping all
you college folks will take the time to talk to your parents while you're on
break.  y'all are cool, and i hope your parents know
bonnie

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the first time i heard the indigo girls was in 88..i had my wisdom teeth
pulled out and the guy i was dating (yes i used to date a boy...but have since
come to my senses ;)  ) gave me a tape of strange fire and told me to listen
to them because it was soothing...he was right and i was hooked...started
making the trek to austin to see the girls on a regular basis...the boy even
managed to get me backstage a few times...oh to be 18 again...

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the www addy to connect to mt stg is:

     http://www.wamc.org/listenamc.html

:o)
peace...
mel <melsouth@mindspring.com>
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oh, no!!!!!

wamc broadcast mtn stg last week!!!! :-(

supposedly it's on somewhere in virginia - does anyone know if we can
connect on the internet????

mel

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can anyone out there please tell me why i'm getting classical music instead of
the ig? did i do something terribly wrong??

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hkf's~

        well, after a somewhat lenghty game 1 of ig trivial jeopardy, the
winners are:

1st place - sarah wardrop with a perfect score of $21,000 points - congrats
sarah!
2nd place - sharon "only missed one" jennings ;) with $20,800 points!
3rd place - a three-way tie at $19,800 points:
                tigger, claudine lapsky, and delastraw!!!

        thanks to everyone who played - 43 folks! :)

        this was just a practice game to work out the kinks.  if you did not
score well, it may have been due to some poor questions by me such as, "who
is the multi-instrumentalist on the sots summer tour?" which cetainly
includes everyone in the band, although i was looking for josh segal.
        and the final jeopardy question, "is there ever anything else that
makes us take our different sides?" was unclear in what i was looking for.
many answered with the name of the song, "you and me of the 10,000 wars".
however, the majority of respondents got the answer i was looking for - "the
evil ego and the vice of pride".

        the next game won't be until early/mid january when the holiday
break ends.
i am proposing that at some point, contestants would each offer to dub *a
single* ig bootleg as prizes for the winners.

        i propose that:
                1st place should get to pick 5 boots from those available;
                2nd place should get 3 boots from those available; and,
                3rd place should get 1 boot from those available.

        not every contestant will have to make a tape though.  for instance,
in this round of 43 contestants only 11 boots would have to be made (5 for
first, 3 for second and 3 for a three-way tie for third).  therefore, only
about 25% of the contestants would actually have to make and send a boot.
        if a contestant has to make a bootleg, they are exempt from the boot
requirement for the next jeopardy game they play.  list newbies without
*any* boots will be granted a "free game" until they get a boot :)
        each contestant who offers a boot will also have to provide first
class postage delivery of the tape (including envelope) to the winners.
        since i make the questions, i will not be eligible for boots and
have no interest in the outcome.  i am doing this: 1) just to have fun on
the list, 2) to educate and focus on the ig's achievements, 3) to remind
folks of proper list etiquette, etc... 4) to give you go-heads an
opportunity to test your ig knowledge and win free bootlegs in the process!

        i would appreciate any comments or ideas on the practice round and
the boot offer suggestion.  if y'all don't want to do the boot offer thingy
then i'll keep offering the jeopardy games amyray :)
        suggestions for jeopardy questions are always welcome! :)

thanks y'all'

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i'm so glad to see people talking about american tune. since sherlyn made a
tape for me of various covers (thanx so much sherlyn!) that song has become
a sure favourite. i was never overly familiar with the original but
recognised it when i heard a&e singing it as one i knew. it's quite simply,
*&^&*(% awesome adding more fuel to my arguement that they could cover
anything at all and it would be brilliant.

helen

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my apologies to the list for posting incorrect info re: ig at mountain
stage on the internet, supposedly tonight - dec 22.

i saw the info somewhere and assumed it to be correct - and didn't check
it out first before posting.

the mtn stg show was broadcast last week by the radio sta in upstate ny
that has internet realaudio broadcasting.

different np radio stations across the country are broadcasting it at
different times.

best advice: contact your local npr station by phone and ask.

naturally, atlanta doesn't even *have* a npr station - truly a hotbed of
culture.

peace & happy holidays...

mel
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<melsouth1@hotmail.com>

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thank you to the person who sent me the sheas boot. you didn't put your name
or email addy in the package, but i know i sent you this sase and blank tape.
so, thank you very much. i really appreciate it!!

michelle

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hi y'all!

would i be out of line to ask that everyone please not quote the
entire original message for one line replies?  thanks. :)))

- rick

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what kind of seats did people get for this one?
i think we got section 101, row j or k.  is there
gonna be a pnw list meet?

thx - resa

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subject:      first time

the first song i heard was ctf in '89 ( i was 15) in my bro's car.
he was playing that tape while driving me to a scary doctor's appt.
i liked it & kid fears ( he kept telling me "that's the guy from rem")
anyway,  i listened to that tape whenever i was w/  my bro...
but at college in '94 i became entranced & bought every cd & the rest is
herstory.

desert island:
tie
breaking curfews & swamp ophelia

so would prob. win!

'night
jami

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> sooo, do you remember where it all started?!  the first time
>you ever learned of these glorious ladies?! >>

i absolutely remember. my best friend from high school and i were both home on
break from college. we went downstairs to her bedroom, sitting on her bed, and
i got up to look for tapes to play. she had all these tapes of bands that had
come to play at her campus (syracuse) that i had never heard of. i didn't know
which to pick- they were all bootleg copies of copies of copies (you get the
idea). i picked up one that has this messy label scrawled in pen- 'indigo
girls'. it was a copy of their first self-titled album, the only thing that
was on the market back then (showing my age).
     about two bars into closer to fine i knew there was a place for me in
this world. by the time we were into secure yourself i was all misty eyed
'cause i could feel parts of my soul that had been empty till then suddenly
being filled up to overflowing. kid fears leaves me speechless. next thing i
know we're singing along to prince of darkness and i'm wondering where in the
world this stuff has been all my life. my friend's boom box was an old, tiny
little thing, and the tape was all beat but it didn't matter. those incredible
sounds came through just the same. we played it over and over, i had to hear
their harmonies, take them apart, sing each one separately then put them back
together again. i didn't actually 'see' what either of them looked like for a
while-till i headed for the music store. i still didn't know which one sang
which part. it didn't even matter!! strange fire was just makin it back to our
stores and it was the next i got, and since then i've waited anxiously for
each cd to come out, each one in it's own time (:-). i didn't see them live
until 1992 and finally knew which was which. i was blown away completely by
that concert. pure sound like i had never heard before. interestingly, i
started out as more of an emilyperson- if there is such a thing- but ended up
all over the amster for her passion.
all you guys who found ig recently, got to hear everything all at once. it's
definitely very cool to be introduced to them that way. but then i think how,
in a way, you kinda missed something special, to have grown up with them as i
did over the past 7-8 years (we're the same age). their songs have been like a
soundtrack to my adult years, and that's really special to me.

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hi all--deb is home from the hospital and recovering finally.  if she was
there through the holidays i would have been very upset.  anyway i am sure
she will be back in all capacities before long.  at that time i will leave
it up to her to share any of her experiences or possibly none of them :).
some of us like our privacy :).   i doubt she is checking email yet so no
bombarding her home account.  i do know she was very appreciative of all
the kind words sent to her via kira.  a bit more time and she'll be back.
just wanted to keep you posted.

oh and one quick list comment.  the fact that i only get 20-30 messages
nowadays is a good thing!!!!!  just because nothing of igc is happening
worth discussing right now is no reason to feel free to post about
whatever.  many lists go for days without a single post.  i won't bother
requesting that turd of unrealism but just had to say it's really ok to go
without all the emails during the lulls.  go do something more productive
with your time.  and for goodness sakes--leave pooh alone.  she is fun and
means well.  ok so she posts too much and needs to get a life her own self
but at least she admits it--first step to recovery.  (you know i love you
pooh hon--smooch!)  ba bye and happy holidays to all.

greg

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i got 4th row tix...off to the left...:)
it's gonna make a great xmas present for my roomie!
~x

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it was like 1991 or 1990 or something like that.  a friend gave me "indigo
girls" and i was like "what is this s**t?" (i was in middle school...).  i
listened to it, and fell in love with "love's recovery"  but it wasn't
until high school when i became an all out indigo head!
:-) karen

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ditto!!i would appreciate it too.thanks

---maurene poppers <mousey@wizard.com> wrote:
>
> hello all,
>
> i have misplaced the photos that were scanned of the curve
article....can
> anyone send them to me?  i would appreciate this!!!  thanks!
>
> maurene
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i apologize if this is not the appropriate forum, but if anyone can find me
two tickets for the new year's eve poi dog pondering show in chicago, i
would be eternally grateful.  thanks.

mike

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i am sooo sorry.  sandy, i am having no luck at all contacting you.  i
keep replying but they bounce back.  i will make copies of the pictures
for you but i need to know how to get the information to you.  what can i
do?  do you konw anyone else's e-mail address i could use to contact
you?  i'm stumped.  help!

marivel

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greggy ( the snot) flamer said:
> and for goodness sakes--leave pooh alone.  she is fun and
> means well.  ok so she posts too much and needs to get a life her own self
> but at least she admits it--first step to recovery.  (you know i love you
> pooh hon--smooch!)  ba bye and happy holidays to all.

fine...i now remember why i liked the fact the old timers weren't
posting.......(their minds are so addled and all)
so,,,
my new years resolution:
no more posting to the list...nope..none..nada..you won't hear another
word ottta me..you couldn't get me to say another thing on this list if
you got emily to beg..

so there...
pblllltttthhhhhh

ho ho ho..wanna bet?
>

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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 09:18:09 est
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so, my first time hearing the girls... (i think i've shared this already in
the past, but oh well,) i was in 7 grade and only listened to the sh*t they
played on the radio, but i was at my friend's house and her sister was
completely obsessed with ig, and my friend kinda followed whatever her sister
did, so she listened to ig a lot too. anyhow, i was at her house listening to
them (i couldn't even tell you the song) but i didn't give them a chance. then
the next summer i was at camp and every morning our counselor woke us up to
galileo, which i fell in love with, and occassionally she's play rites in the
bunk as well. so then when school started (by now i was in i asked my friends
if they had ever heard of ig, but they were like, ew, no, that's such a camp
thing! (this was said very derogatively). but then i was in the car of this
guy i knew and he was playing 1200 curfews and i immediately went out and got
it. soon after i got everything else and have converted all but one of my
friends (who really would like ig if she would just give them a chance, since
all our other musical tastes are the same, but she's just being stubborn
because she doesn't think my opinions are that good when it comes to music
(because she got *me* into ani, dar, etc), but whatever.
so, if you're still reading (and congrats if you are!) i have had my share of
weird dreams too. most most recent ig one was this: emily came over to chat
and hang out. not very exciting on paper, but it ws a very big deal, i mean,
we were bonding!!! last night i had a weird dream about ani. she was giving a
private concert in my friend's bathroom, sitting on the toilet (it was
closed--it makes a good chair) and my friend and i (not the one whose bathroom
it was) were sitting on the bathtub listening. i wonder what that means!
gotta go to school. incredibly jealous of college people who have a nice long
break--but x-mas vacation starts tomorrow :)

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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 07:28:04 -0700
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hi folks,

this is carrie from las cruces, of the famed las cruces boot.  i work at a
npr station and if it weren't for you guys, i wouldn't have even known to
look at the upcoming mountain stage programs (not much of an audience for
folk/bluegrass/etc. down here in the southwest) since we don't air it.
so, to show my appreciation for the invaluable information i get on this
list, not to mention that i met my soulmate on this list, i'm offering it
as a boot/dub/copy.  now, i know....and this is a psuedo-disclaimer
here....i know that had there *not* been special holiday programs on most
of the public radio stations across the country, and broadcast schedules
were readily available so you could have found out when mtn. stage was
aired,  you would have been able to tape it yourself.  so, *breathe*...i
know i am not offering you something that you wouldn't have found
somewhere on the airwaves anyways, thus i am not abusing my powers as an
operations director.

ok. just had to say that.

now, on to the details.

the segment on  mountain stage featuring our girls is approximately 45
minutes.  so, what you would need to do is provide a 60-min tape, sase,
and a little note reminding me that you're wanting a copy of mountain
stage.  it is a really good performance as bethany posted a while back
( "hi" bethany!!).  and, amy sounds *so* good during dgtgag.  makes me get
goosebumps just thinking about it.  and, you can tell they are having a
really good time.

so.

if you're interested, you need to email me with mountain stage in the
subject line and i'll get back to you with my snail mail addy.

hope this brings some holiday cheer to some folks who weren't able to ehar
the show.

peace and indigo dreams.

carrie
chamblen@nmsu.edu

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hello,

had a quick question about eddie's new year bash. are they going to do
numbers for the early show and the late show, or is it going to be first
come first serve at the early show? and does anyone have the exact times
for each show?

btw, the first time i heard ig was 10th grade in high school. i had just
moved down to georgia from rockville, maryland, and had no clue what
real music was. my mother had a thing for kenny rogers. anyways, my
friend andrea started singing ctf in german class, and i had to know
more. my friend at williams college told me to go out and buy their
first album. so i did, and i ran that tape down by playing it constantly
on the way to softball practice. it doesn't work anymore, but i've
memorized every tune.

i hated georgia when i first moved here, but after living in atlanta and
being able to be so close to ig and the incredible music scene, i
wouldn't want to live any where else. kinda makes you wonder if there
really is someone looking out for you. i shiver at thinking who i would
have been if i didn't move to georgia, and what i would have missed in
my life if i hadn't discovered ig.

crazy stuff, man.

the georgia tech geek,
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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 09:53:12 -0500
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subject:      re: pbs on tour, pete carroll at an ig show?

>alright, semi-important stuff first. for everyone in the nyc area, ig will be
>on on tour on channel 13 (pbs) on friday at 1 am.

i think i saw part of this on a boston station a couple of days ago.
the performance clips were, i believe, from the great woods show.
i may be mistaken, but during one of the audience shots, i think
i saw pete carroll, head coach of the new england patriots.  can
anyone confirm?

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                                                  teledyne*
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subject :     re>>the first time                       12/23/97     8:50 am

> sooo, do you remember where it all started?! the first time
>you ever learned of these glorious ladies?!

i usually lurk... but i wanted to come out to say how nice it's been reading everyone's discovery stories.
i had bought the self-titiled album in '90 during my freshman year at college because of ctf. but i can't say i listened to it all that much. then i went to riverbend in chattanooga, tn and saw them on their so tour. it was an acoustic set... and i fell in love that night. that music just... i dunno. anyway, i travelled back and forth from school to riverbend each night of the festival that year (lots of driving) and played the self-titled album over and over and over the whole time. i must have sang along with love's recovery a gazillion times. actually, they had played that song and that was the one that really hooked me. it's great to be amongst people who love the music as much as i do.
thanks for listening!
alicia

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does anyone know the san diego date, location and ticket information?  any
input would be appreciated.

thanks

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looking for amelia hardy of georgia who sent me tapes with no note...i
have no idea what these are for.

<early xmas present maybe?>

~lynda

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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 12:29:21 -0500
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happy holidays everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

faerie kisses and punkin hugs
heather
thepiderqueen

and when it's over i'll go back
-tori amos "the pool"

i crave inertia every move made so i can stop
whatever this madness is in me spinning like a top
on a bed of anxiety over a deep dark drop
down into nothingness, into withoutyouness
-es "leeds"

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subject:      it feels like the first time

actually, i dont remember the first ig song i heard.
i knew a lot of people who were into the girls when i was in middle
school, so my freshman year of high school i bought 1200 curfews and
didnt listen to it.
in july, my boyfriend broke up with me and i ransacked my house for
guitar music; he was a beautiful guitar player and he used to play lots
of ig for me - r&j, ghost, po2, 3 hits.  so when i was devasted by his
loss i turned to the girls and spent about a month trapped in my room
listening to both cds nonstop.
and i also got an ig concert for my bday (yay wpalm!)  so i had a great
introduction to the girls and i am actually glad i waited to listen to my
cds.  = )

faerie kisses to all and merry christmas and happy hannukah (i hope i
spelled that right)
heather

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ahhh... memories...

my older brother came into my room to dub a tape of a grateful dead concert
in late 1989 or early 1990 (i was almost 16).  on one of the sides was the
indigo girls (self titled album).  he asked me if i wanted to dub it... i
said sure even though i had never heard of them (little did i know what i
was getting into).  he gave me a tape the next day of ig and i popped it in
my car on my way to school... i was hooked immediately...
thanks to my brother who has great taste in music...

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bethany,
  ok, here's the deal.  you accidentally sent me two packages.  i waited a
couple of days since i got the first one with the wrong tape and the wrong
name on the note to see if anything would follow and i got the one for me
today.  please let me know what you want me to do because i am leaving soon
and dont want you to be stuck without a tape from heather (whoever heather
is).
i am leaving thursday morning.
let me know.
carrie

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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 13:28:41 est
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in a message dated 97-12-21 19:25:23 est, marivel@umich.edu writes:

<<  i miss ann arbor.  sigh.  someone help me out
please! >>

ann arbor!?!? i love ann arbor! i live about 30 minutes away from there. it's
the best (it got like 20 times cooler when i say amy and em play there in
nov.!) anyway, i just got excited when i saw ann arbor! :)
dana

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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 13:32:08 est
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just saw a "coming up on mtv news" flash which said...

"the rage-indigo connection, as strange as it seems."

we'll see if hey come on.

kevin

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i'd have to say swapm ophelia. i just love that cd. every song on that disk
touches me. i've never heard music that was so powerful to me. when i listen
to it, i just have to close my eyes and feel it, like it's invading my body.
this sounds corny, i know. but i love this cd. plus, you know how music can
take you back to the time you first heard it every time you hear it again?
well that cd takes me to summertime when i first heard it. so, that's my
opinion!
dana

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i've got a job prospect in hartford, ct, but i don't know anything about the
city, things to do, crime rate, cost of living, etc. if anyone can help me,
please e-mail me privately.

thanx, and happy holidays, y'all!

- paul

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hwy y'all...

it lasted about 25 seconds, and announced that adam morrello? (the lead singer
from rage) has agreed to remix shed your skin.  it included a clip of sys from
last week's show in florida, and talked about previous political connections
between the two groups.  also said the remix should be out soon after the new
year.

i taped it, but 25 seconds isn't worth setting up any kind of a tree...

hope someone else caught it.

kevin

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dana and marivel ~
i'm in the ann arbor area also!  the concert in nov was pretty good, i agree,
although we saw them the next night in dayton and they seemed to have a lot
more energy.  but you gotta love hill auditorium.  there really are no bad
seats and the sixth row there was closer than the fourth row the following
night.  and afterward, on over to the nectarine for a beer!!  anyone else in
the area? just curious.
love,
molly o+

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subject:      painful news - chiapas & zapatistas

this info was just taken off the msnbc news online site about 5 minutes
ago...
i am shocked & saddened by this atrocity...it just made me cry...
please go to this site to read more.. .
i also copied the text from the site (see below)

http://www.msnbc.com/news/132136.asp

mexican paramilitaries staged a violent attack on indians in troubled
chiapas state, killing at least 42 people and injuring many others, the red
cross said tuesday.

local chiapas official mauricio rosas, director of the red cross office in
san cristobal, told the mexico city radio station formato 21 that the 42
victims included 21 women, six men, 14 children and an infant.

some reports said the indians were supporters of mexico's zapatista rebels,
and were already refugees from paramilitary violence elsewhere in the
region.

the zapatistas staged a violent uprising against the mexican government in
southern chiapas state on jan. 1, 1994, when officially around 140 people
died. chiapas state government officials confirmed the paramilitary attack,
which happened at midday monday, but could not give exact numbers of dead or
injured.

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well, i sure feel like a newcomer. i had heard of ig before, but never
heard one of their songs until one day in the car 101.9 in chicago played
"shame on you" for the first time and i fell in love with it. and then i
saw the girls at lilith over the summer and i was hooked!

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pooh wrote:
>no wonder the old timers are so quiet

well, personally i think it's just all that holiday eggnog.  that and
the slow, steady rockin' of the chair, whilst the recent crop of ig list
messages scroll across the screen like an endless stream of hazy,
nondescript clouds...

peace-nic (in a holly-daze mood)

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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 15:26:53 -0600
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well, it seems as though my first exposure to ig was (like many others,
i'm figuring out) at camp.  ahh...i'm beginning to remember this thread
now...

anyway, we had this evening "vespers," as it used to be called (and was
later changed to evening reflection because vespers was too christian of a
term) - and a cabin or group was to present a message, and usually played
a song at the end to help everyone "reflect" as we would watch the sun set
over lake michigan.  this reflecting often turned to crying, especially if
the music was good.  well, back in, well, it must've '89 or '90, and i'm
thinking it was '89 because that was the summer i did the bike trip before
my frosh year...a group played ctf, and i was like "man! - this is
amazing!  this is me!  this is how it should be!"  okay, maybe i wasn't so
dramatic, but all of a sudden there was this understanding and connection
with the song.  i immediately bought the album once i was home, and tried
my best to get my friends to listen, but to no avail.  this was definitely
material that only my "camp friends" could appreciate.  i was hooked.

and that was just the beginning...to the rest of my life!  (-e.s.)  :)

kinda funny side note...one of my friends who i tried to get hooked on ig
long ago said something to me when i ran into her a few months ago...she
admitted to actually getting into their music recently and buying albums,
and had even seen a show.  "remember about 8 years ago when you tried to
get me to listen to them?" she said, and continued that with "man, what
was i thinking brushing you off like that??"  :)

thanks for making it this far!

sarah in st. louis  (who has to work tomorrow...ugh.)

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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 16:37:02 -0500
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subject:      sigc -- my cool class

well, i was bumming that i had school today, but i walked into my science
history and beliefs class and our teacher had bagels and yummy food for
us, so i was glad we didn't have to work.  i was sittin at a table (not
in a broken circle) with 2 of my ig obsessed buds and we were burning a
cinnamon candle in hopes to drown out the smell of the dissected birds
that were on the counter behind us . . . but anyhoo, our teacher said
that his friend had given him this tape and he really liked it so he
stuck it in the player . . . lo and behold it was an ig mix . . .
everything from strange fire and the self titled thru shaming!  we were
in heaven.  and he had this guitar in his room and i was so pissed cuz my
arm's in a sling and i couldn't play . . . but we were all singing and
bein cool.  everybody thought we were psycho.  just thought i'd share!

love,
carolyn

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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 19:07:10 -0500
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subject:      first time, inquiry

the first time i heard indigo girls was in the summer of 95 at camp
tohikanee (hey jill -- those were the days, eh??).  everybody seemed
obsessed and i remember hearing least complicated and totally loving it.
it took me awhile though to bother to pick anything else up, but now i'm
hooked and it is good.  don't you love gs camp??  now i'm at another camp
and we sing closer to fine on occasion . . . though not with kids . . .
the bar part is just too much for *young impressionable minds*.

anyhoo, that was a boring story.

so, does anybody have or know where to get chords or tab for thin line?
i've looked everywhere i can think of . . . to no avail.  it sounds
pretty easy so i'd like to try it! :)

thanks,
carolyn

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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 17:54:34 -0500
reply-to:     sarah pinsker <spinsker@goucher.edu>
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just wanted to say that i work at camp amahami in new york state, a
great place for being an indigo fan: lots o people to sing with...
also, my own personal desert island: i hate that game, but here i am
stuck at home with sch a small sampling of my cd collection. i meant to
take sots and forgot it! ack! i'm not playing the one cd game again.
last year i spent an entire month with only 1200 curfews and mind
science of the mind. this year i have 1200 curfews, 4.5, mary fortune
express, caroline aiken's butler field, the tantrums' do a two sable,
and ejs' survivors parade.
anyway, gotta go peel some potatoes,
sarah
(happy chanukah)

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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 20:16:14 -0600
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anybody know if there's a folk tale or legend about a chickenman, or did amy just make him up?

deanna & i had discussed this once, after the concert, & neither of us knew.

also, some nicg (my first-couldn't resist).
deanna is (was) in a really cool folk-rock band called free whiski, which unfortunately had to break up due to their lead guitarist, duncan, getting transferred out of state with his day job.  anyway, he's back in town for the holidays, so if anyone in the milwaukee area is free fri. night, they'll be doing just one gig on dec. 26th at the dubliner, which is in the walker's point area.

they do some irish/scottish music, & lots of folkie stuff (both '60's & more recent stuff) like janis joplin, nanci griffith, john prine, etc. (sorry, no ig, the guys didn't want to).  deanna has an incredibly powerful voice, duncan is illustrious on guitar, and john improvises on fiddle like nobody's business, while swaying his hips (oo, gotta love that).  i'll be helping out this time on congas & percussion, too.

come on out & crash the party, it'll be fun!

happy holidays!
barb
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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 21:04:49 -0600
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oh, it was sweet...

i was just out of college, must've been '89 or '90, and my older brother was working on his car in my parents' garage (he had an apt. w/no garage) and listening to a tape.  he would often do this, and since he lived in madison, which is a major college town, he was exposed to more interesting music than the same ol' stuff they always played here in milwaukee, so i was always interested in finding out what he was listening to.  (btw, i have never heard ctf on the radio!)

anyway, i was immediately attracted to the harmonies, the intense guitar playing, and the passionate vocals.  i knew this stuff was for me!  i hung around outside, pretending i had something to do, just so i could listen to the whole tape.  it was either ig or sf, or maybe both.  then i casually asked my bro who that was, and the next chance i got i looked for ig in the record store.  they had both sf & ig, but i only bought strange fire (didn't wan't to blow too much $$ all at once).

when i listened to the cd & read the lyrics, i knew i had come across something _really incredibly special_.  it spoke to me like nothing else before;  more than u2, or bruce springsteen, or rush--those were some of my faves at the time.

i have been hooked ever since, & get every cd as son as it comes out.  i hadn't seen them live (or heard of them coming to town) until this year, first at lilith, then at the riverside.  ironically, my bro hasn't kept up with ig much--his musical interests tend to change like the weather in wisconsin.

that's my story, thanx for reading!
peace,
barb

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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 22:46:07 -0500
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you guys, the lilith fair tv thing is on vh1 right now, turn it on.-chelsea

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date:         tue, 23 dec 1997 23:20:06 -0500
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hey ya'll,
        did anyone happen to catch the rerun of the lilith festival on vh1? it was
just on.  it started at 10pm.  i made a copy of it.  i'm so mad that iwas
out of town for it:(  anyways, i just wanted to know if anyone's catched
it. i'm sorry for the nigc today... even though i don't exactly know what i
did. if anyone wants to tell me, then do, please.  all i know is that i was
reprimanded for something today and i don't know what i did.  so if  anyone
knows, feel free to tell me.
                        thanks,
                                chelsea

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date:         wed, 24 dec 1997 00:11:38 -0500
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hey all
can anyone who has koritfw as a bonus track on the power of two (or another
cd) single please tell me the serial number of the cd?  i've seen pot cd
singles for sale in catologues without the other track listings and i want
to make sure i buy the correct one.  i love that track!  also, if anyone has
a boot of the recent lilith in florida with this i would kill for it.
thanks and happy holidays to everyone! =)
lori

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date:         wed, 24 dec 1997 00:46:31 -0500
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subject:      re: new threads...are you guys always so negative??
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hey all!

yes!  old threads get repeated constantly.  it's part o' the list thang!
i've been on the list 2+ yrs and i couldn't begin to count how many times
i've heard the same question asked about a song interpretation or some
such other thing...  yet with constantly having new people, new
discussions are generated as well... not completely new, but new people's
ideas/experiences/etc.  it's all good!  pooh's statement was not a flame
at all, just an accurate observation...

peace y'all, melissa            p.s.  happy holidays y'all! :)

-my life is more than a vision-e.s.

-find myself becoming more immobile, when i think a little girl in the
world can't do anything -e.s.

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -a.r.

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hi!  funny you should mention this.... i have worked at a girl scout camp the
past 2 summers (and went as a camper 8 for the past 8 summers before that).
also, that is where i first heard of the indigo girls.  back when i was going as
a camper, one year i had a counselor who could play the guitar real well and was
obsessed with the indigo girls.  she could play closer to fine and a  few other
songs really well, and i loved the songs a lot.  she also had the indigo girls cd
and we played it a lot, too.  the camp i worked at was in sc.if anyone else has
worked at a gs camp, please let me know!!

take care,
sharon

> i don't know if this is list appropriate, and i am usually a lurker, but i
> have become very curious and had to ask.  in the last two days i have had
> three girl scout camp connections with ig-list people.  and so i thought i
> would try and conduct a little survey.  i know a lot of people on this list
> work at summer camps, but i wonder how many work at girl scout camps???
> so...if you do, and care to admit it...where (what state) and what camp...and
> did it influence your indigo girls listening in any way?  let me know if this
> isn't an appropriate topic...but i am interested...and i have been having
> interesting connections w/ gs camp/indigo people... so, anyone?  anyone?
>
> -smileydev2
>  ( a curious gs camp staff member...)
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ok, i say this without malice toward anyone who celebrates one of the myriad
*other* winter holidays, all of which are just as valid as the holiday which i
choose to celebrate, and completely without intent to insult or leave out
those same people who celebrate those same other winter holidays.

merry christmas, y'all!!!!!!!!!  :o)

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
    -  president, grlchasr26 fan club
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home to practise it, because it's a special outdoor song
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date:         wed, 24 dec 1997 11:18:25 -0000
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seffy here, checking in from home to say i can get my hands on copies of
curve at my friendly gay bookstore around the corner.  it's a hefty £3.50,
but worth it for the lovely glossy pics and a really interesting interview.
so if any uk listies are having trouble getting hold of it, then mail me
(on this address) and we'll work something out.

oh, and i hope everyone out there in indigo land has a fabulous christmas!!

seffy

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date:         wed, 24 dec 1997 14:04:03 gmt
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hey guys,

you all have to start voting for the 25 most influential bands. 99x is
the local radio station in atlanta and they're going to broadcast the
top 25 on new year's. go to the web site

http://www.com/99x/top25.html

and vote. we can get ig in the top.

happy holidays! sharon :)

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date:         wed, 24 dec 1997 06:47:41 pst
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subject:      hey nunya...yer mail's bouncing
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sorry for the waste of bandwidth, but then, the list is so quiet -
who could mind? if your name isn't nunya business, you can stop now,
delete, and go on with your daily lives...

tried to respond to nunya business with the following, but it came
back as undeliverable because it seems that n.b.'s account "doesn't
accept recipient."  moi?  harumph.
so the private becomes public, as a result.
here goes:

n.b. wrote:
did you get your belloluna cd yet? did you write & ask for the sticker
and cassette? did they say yes? anxiously awaiting your reply! ;-)

actually, no to the first question, and yes to the two subsequent
questions.  i got this weird query from either daemon or monsterbit(i
can't recall which), saying my cr.card number was not in the right
format or something (huh?), and after a few messages back and forth
(during which i explained that the number was indeed correct, and was
working fine for other purchases) i heard nothing.  so last week i wrote
daemon to inquire about the order, and a very nice woman named andrea
(who had been my contact assuring me she'd see to it that stickers and
cassette definitely went in with my order) told me daemon had no record
of my order. what?!!  sputter, sputter.
so i wrote back with the details, and haven't heard further.
hmm...   my last daemon order arrived very quickly, so this puzzles
me.  i can only assume the holly-daze has people in a frazzle and
things are not working as smoothly as they should.  i continue to await
word, or cd, or something from daemon.  but hey, patience is
my middle name so i'm not freaking.  it'll get here.  eventually.
i'm going to try contacting them again after ye olde new yeare when
maybe things will be more organized. (?!!)
thanks for asking...i shall keep you informed.  hope you're having
yourself a nice holiday.  i know i will be - as soon as they're over
that is.
;)
just kidding.
kinda.
see ya -
nic
p.s. who are you really? ;)  hard to imagine mr. & ms. business would
name their precious child "nunya."  is that an afghani name? has an
almost slavic sound to it, if pronounced "noon-yah."  ???!!!
<wink, giggle, shrug>

and what's the deal with yer email?

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greg, can you make sure deb hears about this?

note:  the person who forwarded this to me didn't quote the source, so take it
fwiw.  i know that there has been a copyright term extension act in congress
<http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d105:hr01621:>, but haven't been able
to track down anything in simple english which explains the bill, and i am not
a lawyer.  it also does not appear to have passed yet from what thomas
(library of congress web page) says.

>>hey folks, just to let you know about something scary that happened
>>to a friend of mine today.  he's a major tape trader (dats and
>>analog), mostly springsteen but also counting crows, johnny cash,
>>tori amos, john fogerty, etc.  for the last year or so, he's had his
>>trade list up on his web page, and has frequently conducted trades
>>with folks who find him through his web page.  friday afternoon,
>>after he'd gone home for the weekend, the riaa (recording industry
>>association of america, or something like that) sent faxes and
>>letters to him, his employer (who is also is internet provider) and
>>to his employers' lawyers stating that they had received a tape from
>>him, which violated copyright laws.
>>
>>[by the way, another friend forwarded me a message from the
>>mellencamp list a few days ago, which noted how the copyright law was
>>recently amended to specifically include tape traders.  the previous
>>law only said that it was a crime to distribute tapes in exchange for
>>something of value; the newly-reworded law clarifies that something
>>of value includes other tapes.  i don't recall off hand if the law
>>bans the distribution of tapes if nothing is received in return.  in
>>any case, if there is interest, i will fwd that message to the list.]
>>
>>back to my friend.  when he went in to work today, he was summoned
>>and told that his email accounts had been cancelled and that his web
>>pages had been taken down.  he was advised by a lawyer friend who
>>deals in copyright that the riaa will probably not pursue the matter
>>any further, but his employer may (since he was apparently engaged in
>>illegal activities using his employer's resources -- email service
>>and web space).
>>
>>the bottom line is that these assholes are cracking down on
>>bootlegging.   in the last year the busted a number of "pros" --
>>manufacturers and distributers of boot cds.  now it looks like
>>they're turning their attention to tape traders.
>>
>>if you have a trade list on the web, i'd take it down, or 'hide' it
>>by not having visible links to it, that way you can just pass on the
>>url to those you wish to view it.   and i probably wouldn't advertise
>>the fact that you trade tapes in newsgroups or on the web.  and if
>>you get email or snail-mail from someone you've never heard of asking
>>for tapes, it'd probably be safer to ignore it.
>>
>>i don't want to freak anyone out, but it looks like a reality that
>>we'll have to confront.   these idiots apparently just don't realize
>>that they can never eliminate bootlegs, just drive them farther
>>underground.  not to mention the crimes they are committing against
>>history, since bootleggers preserve music history for future
>>generations!
>>
>>
>>chris

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it's on the following 4-track cd single:

power of two(single edit)
dead man's hill(studio acoustic duo mix)
mystery(studio acoustic duo mix)
rocking in the free world(with k's choice)
>epic 34k 77844

if someone has booted anything of the k's choice performances together with
the indigo girls,please let me know...!
thanks,

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>date:    tue, 23 dec 1997 07:28:04 -0700
>from:    carrie <chamblen@nmsu.edu>
>subject: mountain stage dub offer...
>
>hi folks,
>
>this is carrie from las cruces, of the famed las cruces boot.  i work at a
>npr station and if it weren't for you guys, i wouldn't have even known to
>look at the upcoming mountain stage programs (not much of an audience for
>folk/bluegrass/etc. down here in the southwest) since we don't air it.
>so, to show my appreciation for the invaluable information i get on this
>list, not to mention that i met my soulmate on this list, i'm offering it
>as a boot/dub/copy.  now, i know....and this is a psuedo-disclaimer
>here....i know that had there *not* been special holiday programs on most...
>
>peace and indigo dreams.
>
>carrie
>chamblen@nmsu.edu

hey carrie
are you the one i had contact with over the summer regarding new mexico?
i'm becky and i live in albuquerque. i thought the carrie i talked with
was coming to unm? let me know and i'd love to get a boot of the show.
i'll send a tape next week.
talk to you soon.
becky

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101.9 plays the indigo girls?!  woah!  do they only play "shame on you" or
do they play something else also?  (wait!  that could've been the radio
station that i called on emily's birthday to request "watershed" or
"ghost"...anyway, the dj said he had not heard of either of those
titles...oh well!).

the only radio show i've ever heard the girls (besides "shame on you" or
"galileo") is on wyso (yellow springs, ohio, near where i go to school).
i think i heard "don't give that girl a gun" a few weeks ago, and maybe it
was "three hits" last year.

:-) karen

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in a message dated 97-12-24 05:54:24 est, macleods@spectranet.ca writes:

<<  also, if anyone has
a boot of the recent lilith in florida with this i would kill for it. >>

i second that emotion. :-)

enjoy yer day!
  rick
*to read makes our speaking english good*
*i have my pride. ok, not a lot of my pride, but enough so that i can't do
this*
- the tao of xander

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doo doo doo dooo... she's baaaack...
hey all... i've got a question.... see, i'm an artsy kinda broad; a writer
at heart; an artist by trade, and i have an interest in film and video. it
amazes me how often as i'm listening to a song that i begin to see it unfold
in my mind as a series of images inspired by the words + music. in these
days where music videos have become the natural progression from recorded
song, i guess that's not an unusual phenominum. duh:-)
anyhoo... my question to y'all, ( since there seem to have been a few bored
folk on this list when mail volume imploded ) is: how do *you* see a
favorite ig song as a video. pick yer favorite one + write your visual
interpretation as you would like to see it in a video. i will if you will...
if this aint a good idea, e-mail me privately and tell me so, and we wont do
it... but it looks fun to me in these ig news lean times...
peace + happy holidays to all of you, whatever it is you are celebrating:-)
kim, goddess of tired butts from travel:-)
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wow...this is only the second time i have posted to this list, but i like
telling people how long i have listened to the girls.

i go way back.  summer of 89 i believe.  i too, was at a camp, camp hemlock in
new york.  one of the other workers had a tape (i told you it was a long time
ago) of these great singers.

the two songs i remember, of course, were ctf and secure yourself.  when it
was my turn to play the "good night" music over the all-camp pa, i would play
secure yourself.  in the morning i would play ctf.

i came back from camp that summer and bought up all the ig's i knew of and
haven't stopped.  theirs are the only cd's i buy at full price the week (or
so) that they come out.  others i buy through the music club, when on sale, or
get as gifts.

thanks for listening.
l.

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in a message dated 97-12-24 04:15:06 est, ceturett@juno.com writes:

<< now i'm at another camp
and we sing closer to fine on occasion . . . though not with kids . . .
the bar part is just too much for *young impressionable minds*. >>

hey ig fans every where - hope all of your times at home are going well!

i just got a kick out of this line, and had to jump in and share with all of
you what a bad bad mommy i am.  my 10 year olds listen to all my ig music, and
when the bad parts come along, and they say "mommy, did she just say the f
word?", i reply that yes she did, and sometimes when adults feel really
passionately about something, they use strong language to convey it.  not that
i condone it, but that's the reality of life.  i still think all the ig's
music has a beautiful message, and i want my kids to be exposed to it.  the
also know the ig are gay, and that some of my friends are gay, and that people
on tv are gay.  we talk about it openly so they can get the concept and be
accepting of a diverse group of folks.   i hope i'm not exposing them to too
much adult content in life - what do y'all think?  hey, just some food for
thought over the holidays.

you guys all sound like a great bunch of people, and i truly hope i get to
meet some of you some day!  meanwhile, back to baking pumpkin rolls and
mopping my floor...

bonnie

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does anyone have the chords (or can direct me to the chords/tab) to the green
day song time of your life?

i'd sure appreciate it... a new song to play for christmas would be great.

michelle

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hey everybody...
first... a happy holidays to all...second i am bored and i got my wisdom teeth
pulled this morning and my computer is the only way i can communicate because
my mouth is all swollen and i look real cute and all...

anyways.  so i thought i would share a little indigo moment we had the other
day.  of course we (anya who once again is lurking) were at the mall trying to
buy this person a gift. so we went everywhere searching and all the places
were out of them.  so being the extremely *patient* people that we are we went
into the gap for the 2nd time and the line was so long.  so we picked out a
nice sweater and got in line.  anya being the brat that she is said, "there is
no way i am staying in here..." an starts to leave, all of the sudden the
opening chords to closer to fine. so she stays, we start singing and make all
the people look at us and then go on our merry way.  hearing it definitely
made our mood a little better, cause it was gonna be a long ride home.

peace
sasha

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hey-
        i just got my mom the new barbara streisand cd for christmas, and
i was looking at the songs listed on the back and saw water is wide.
anyone know whats goin on?  anyone heard it?  and i also recognized two
or so other songs that had the same names as some other artists songs,
one was if i could.  which is a tara maclean song so i figure the names
are just coincidental.  and there was another one but i cant remember.
and its already wrapped so i cant even look.  and i obviously cant just
go and play it.  well, soon enough!  anyone know in the meantime?
thanks.
merry christmas and happy related or non-related holidays-
laura

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hey all,
     i've been a member of the list for some time, but have always sat back.
i'd really like to make a short statement about my opinion concerning all that
is currently taking place with the prohibition of tape trading.  for chris,
thanks for the post. it was very disturbing, yet informative to know what is
going on with the riaa and the liking.  i can't believe what this country is
coming to.  talk about violation of our rights; this is becoming quite petty.
what is the harm in trading these tapes;  afterall, it certainly promotes the
commericiality of the artists, keeps their music alive for eternity (or as
long as the tapes last), and generally helps bring the community together.  in
a way, tape trading is a sort of ingredient for a melting pot, and i think by
the riaa and this bill proposition are a complete disturbance and nuisance to
such activity. we must question why this is all happening, and what the motive
for such committies is, because we are the innocent targets.  i want to know
this:  what exactly is their aim, what do they hope to change by further
limiting the distribution of bootlegged tapes, and  just what exactly do they
think they're going to acheive from all of this action?  furthermore, chris is
right, they are only making it a bit more difficult for the traders to
connect; they will not be able to forever ban bootlegging altogether.  sorry
for such a sad note at such a festive time, thanks for your time, and happy
holidays to all.
~keri
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but we are fueled by distortions
of lives led in discontent
  trading misfortunes..."   ~ar

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greeting fellow listees!!

happy, happy, holidays to y'all!

quick question- does anybody know the story behind here for you, emily's
supposed solo effort of 1983? i say 'supposed' because everyone i talk to says
they've never actually seen it/heard it/gotten a copy of it.

if someone out there knows the answer (tig- i'm betting you do!) and isn't too
tired from holiday stuff to type me an amswer, i'd really appreciate it.

also, (i'll probably regret making a general announcement to the whole list)
but if i owe anyone a tape or pictures, please email me and let me know. i had
to reinstall my aol and lost a lot of addresses, etc. thanks!

finally, the results of my unofficial tattoo survey! last month i asked the
listees if anyone has an ig inspired tattoo-
22- people responded saying that they had (at least one) tattoo. of those,
10- said that seeing amy's tattoo (on her arm) inspired or encouraged them to
get their first tattoo.
3-said they were inspired to get a tattoo that is 'indigo' colored
2-said that seeing amy's tattoo (on her arm) inspired the location of their
tattoo.
2- said they knew of another person whose tattoo was inspired by igc. one knew
of a tattoo inspired by album art on shaming of the sun- a sun/moon/stars
image. the other knew of a woman who had 'three hits' tattoed on her back.
0-no one who emailed me had a tattoo that was directly igc, an image taken
from their words, music, album art, etc, although many are, like me
contemplating it.
~peace and all things indigo~leah susan

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and laying her fingers upon the keys,
she decided to write whatever she pleased.
a poem in her mind, her hair full of tinsel,
away she did write with nary a pencil.
and this is what she writ, in her room, out of sight:
"merry christmas to y'all, and to y'all an indigo night!"
jill

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does anyone have purple parrot who would be willing to copy it for me.  i
don't have anything to trade, but i would send you a blank tape, and a
return (postage paid) envelope.  if you can do this, please e-mail me!
:-) karen
ps- happy holidays

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hey y'all
i just caught the posts asking about summer camps and the first time that we
heard the girls.

well, i have been at the same summer camp my entire life, and yes it is a girl
scout camp, camp menotomy in meredith, nh.  i started there at 6 yrs. old in
'81 and now i am the assistant director of the place!  pretty crazy, but it
does say a lot for those types of places.
the first time i heard the girls was at camp and it was 1988...the self titled
album was the one thing played constantly throughout camp and they have been
my fav ever since.  in fact some of their songs have become campfire
classics..the kids love them!

~nancy

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does anyone know of any atlanta radio stations that play the girls or ani
difranco or stuff like that.  i'd like to know bc so far i am very
dissatisfied with atlanta radio stations.
                                -chelsea

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that is not what i do,
i aint no damsel in destress,
and i don't need to be rescued."
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houdy ho guys,
i came across three awsome cd's from the girls independent years.  well,
actually two.  the other one is a live concert in london.  ok,  the
first one is the ep and more   early recordings volume 1.  its a 17
track cd that, pardon me, kicks ass.  the second one is levees that
break in my heart   early recordings volume 2.  this one is just as kick
ass.  and finally,  the third cd is  in with the out crowd.
excellent!!!!!  now,  is there any of you who have these already or have
heard of them.  i would love other opinions.
i have already had the best christmas even though i bought they were
gifts to me from me.
one more thing,  i had the supplier hold shades of indigo,  and the
indigo girls live with the allmon brothers.  what do ya'll think about
those?

everyone have a happy holiday
crickett

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in a message dated 97-12-24 18:26:25 est, you write:

<<
in a message dated 97-12-24 04:15:06 est, ceturett@juno.com writes:

<< now i'm at another camp
  and we sing closer to fine on occasion . . . though not with kids . . .
  the bar part is just too much for *young impressionable minds*. >>
  >>

  just my view.. but i personaly think that part of the song sends a good
message ta kids.. ya head out to a bar in search of peace and answers and a
good time, and you come home with a big fat brain ache and no answers-- seems
to promote not drinking to me ;)

then again, whatda i know.. i was just dying to post something.

hope you all enjoy whatever holiday you celibrate!

grace

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date:         wed, 24 dec 1997 22:54:52 est
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in a message dated 97-12-24 18:30:03 est, terrilee11@aol.com writes:

<< if someone out there knows the answer (tig- i'm betting you do!) and isn't
too
tired from holiday stuff to type me an amswer, i'd really appreciate it.
  >>

with regards to the alleged bootleg "here for you" which is supposedly emily's
solo effort (emily's version of amy's "color me grey") i have the following to
say:

whoever has it please please please tell me!!!!!!!!  you don't know how
***badly*** i want this.  my life would be complete and i would never ever
tell anyone who gave it to me pleeeeeeeeeease i'm begging you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<achem>

feeling now that i have made myself perfectly clear on the matter...

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
    -  president, grlchasr26 fan club
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and tigger, who had been hiding behind trees and jumping
out on pooh's shadow when it wasn't looking, said that
tiggers were only bouncy before breakfast, and that as soon
as they had had a few haycorns they became quiet and refined.
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well, listees! only a coupla' hours till' christmas...it's weird...i'm
spending christmas eve doin' e-mail, when i should be wrapping those
gifts laying on my bedroom floor...where are my priorities?! ;)
just got back from the christmas eve candlelighting service...it was so
weird....for some reason, i was singing "strange fire" in my head the
whole time....dear god, what does this mean?!  some sort of sign from
"the (wo)man" i suppose...(see, everyone's kept happy when ya' go about
it *that* way!).  hmmmmmmmmm......i dunno. just felt the need to share
that listworthy experience.

happy holidays to all of you! ;)  may you not eat yourselves into
oblivion...(there is sooo much food lurking in our refrigerator right
now..uggh! my belly hurts already.) ;)

take care,
bethany ;)
(who's off to do the "holiday stuff" she should've done weeks ago!)

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date:         wed, 24 dec 1997 23:06:46 est
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is the dmh & mystery the same as the least complicated single?  just
curious.
love,
  carol
>
>it's on the following 4-track cd single:
>
>power of two(single edit)
>dead man's hill(studio acoustic duo mix)
>mystery(studio acoustic duo mix)
>rocking in the free world(with k's choice)
>>epic 34k 77844
>

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where do you get it?

at 11:06 pm 12/24/1997 est, you wrote:
>is the dmh & mystery the same as the least complicated single?  just
>curious.
>love,
>  carol
>>
>>it's on the following 4-track cd single:
>>
>>power of two(single edit)
>>dead man's hill(studio acoustic duo mix)
>>mystery(studio acoustic duo mix)
>>rocking in the free world(with k's choice)
>>>epic 34k 77844
>>
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i'd like y'all to know that jill stole this line from me.  as i was
leaving her house last night, i said that.  don't y'all think she's so
darn tootin' clever 'cuz i'm sure she got the inspiration from me.

>"merry christmas to y'all, and to y'all an indigo night!"
>jill

love,
  carol
ps--sorry jilly...just had to throw that in.  love ya!!

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where the frick do you get these things!!!  grr.
love,
  carol

>
>from:  leslie robertson <lirobertson@webtv.net>
>subject:      ig independent years
>to:    indigo-girls@netspace.org
>
>houdy ho guys,
>i came across three awsome cd's from the girls independent years.
well,
>actually two.  the other one is a live concert in london.  ok,  the
>first one is the ep and more   early recordings volume 1.  its a 17
>track cd that, pardon me, kicks ass.  the second one is levees that
>break in my heart   early recordings volume 2.  this one is just as
kick
>ass.  and finally,  the third cd is  in with the out crowd.
>excellent!!!!!  now,  is there any of you who have these already or
have
>heard of them.  i would love other opinions.
>i have already had the best christmas even though i bought they were
>gifts to me from me.
>one more thing,  i had the supplier hold shades of indigo,  and the
>indigo girls live with the allmon brothers.  what do ya'll think about
>those?
>
>everyone have a happy holiday
>crickett
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crickett,
        where did you get those ig recordings.  i live in atlanta and i can never
find them
                        chelsea

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to further clarify what deb <indigo@mindspring.com> wrote:
==========
note:  the person who forwarded this to me didn't quote the source, so
take it
fwiw.  i know that there has been a copyright term extension act in
congress
<http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d105:hr01621:>, but haven't
been able
to track down anything in simple english which explains the bill, and i
am not
a lawyer.  it also does not appear to have passed yet from what thomas
(library of congress web page) says.

[fwd message follows]
==========

i think that the bill pending which relates to traders is a senate bill:
s. 1044 - "criminal copyright improvement act of 1997" introduced
7/21/97. 'section 2: criminal infringement of copyrights' - is the
section which specifies that:

"the term 'financial gain' includes receipt of anything of value,
including the receipt of other copyrighted works."
<snip>
"criminal infringement - any person who infringes a copyright willfully
either - (1) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial
gain"

the bill also says that (paraphrasing) criminal penalties will be
applicable if someone violates the above by "infringing" $5000 worth of
goods within a 180 day period.

note: this bill has *not* as yet been passed.

all of this seems to imply that only *intensely serious* traders are the
ones who will be targeted for criminal prosecution.

*i agree with deb's friend's forwarded message - it's probably a good
idea for folks to get your boot tape trading lists off of your web page
- if only to protect yourself from your own isp (internet service
provider).*

my 2¢ on the subject, fwiw...

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yes imnot lying the girls are teaming up with tom morello from rage
agasint the machine they asked him to remix shed  my skin  you can get the
complete story as well as other ig mews at

http://www.mtv.com/mtv/news/headlines/971219/story4.html

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i quite enjoy reading these.  i can't say i firs heard them @ camp (if i
did hear them in 3rd grade, it was '86 or '87, and they were stil
pre-maj label), unless it was was when i went to space camp in 5th or
7th grade, but then again we weren't sittin' aroung camp fires singin
(nope--we were just crashing to our death in screwd-up shuttle
simulations--these are fun...want to hear more...just write).  i
unfortuneately only heard them via radio, and moreso--vh-1.  i really
liked galileo, but in 6th & 7th grade, i never bought music, so it
didn't matter. i remember hearing (and being excited) other songs
later...like touch me fall of the radio (i have a memory of laying in my
bed after tyhe alarm went off, just listening to a song that ig did that
had many diff parts).  plus i was watching boys on the side on hbo in
apr. of '96, and the bar scene was on, and my bro said that was ig, and
said...oh yeah!!! i remember them!!  wow, they're good...but i still
never bought much music (besides they might be giants).  well, finally,
i got hooked when jill told me she bought me a ticket for ig this last
june, so i made her make me a tape...and i finally got hooked.  yeah...

my ig dream (a few weeks ago):
  ok, i was in some sort of classroom-like room sitting on the mustard
short-shag carpet, and the ig just finished performing.  em left right
away, but amy started writing a thank you to the audience on the
over-head projector.  i walked up like a student after a lecture.  i
don't remember what i might have said.  then amy walked over to the
couch in the room, laid down, and blankly started watching tv on a circa
70's cabinet tv.  jilla and i proceded to try and entertain amy by doing
somersaultes and other lawn-appropriate activities.  amy then decided to
go to bed, and wanted us to help clean up.  i was going to close down
her computer that sat on the tv.  there was an error, and i coulsn't
close down all the applications.  it wouldn't close 'cuz on her map
software (we were loking @ asia) had a typo--belorussia was spelled
wrong (it believable 'cuz its my dream).  then i woke up.

i suppose i'm bizarre
love,
  carol

ps--sarah has an interesting ig dream...maybe she'll tell us?

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pun intended!  ;-)

dianne

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missmoll99 wrote:

> could it be that she's just incredibly yummy and is even better with
> champagne?

heheh!  i always thought it meant that she's sweet and juicy.  ;-p

dianne (who's first time was in her ex-g/f's honda civic in 1989
(listening to ig, of course.  what did you think i meant?))

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        merry christmas you all! ;)

love,
tony :)

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my arm is in a sling too :(

merry christmas all....love, karen

carolyn e turett wrote:

> well, i was bumming that i had school today, but i walked into my science
> history and beliefs class and our teacher had bagels and yummy food for
> us, so i was glad we didn't have to work.  i was sittin at a table (not
> in a broken circle) with 2 of my ig obsessed buds and we were burning a
> cinnamon candle in hopes to drown out the smell of the dissected birds
> that were on the counter behind us . . . but anyhoo, our teacher said
> that his friend had given him this tape and he really liked it so he
> stuck it in the player . . . lo and behold it was an ig mix . . .
> everything from strange fire and the self titled thru shaming!  we were
> in heaven.  and he had this guitar in his room and i was so pissed cuz my
> arm's in a sling and i couldn't play . . . but we were all singing and
> bein cool.  everybody thought we were psycho.  just thought i'd share!
>
> love,
> carolyn
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you'll never guess... i got my mom the same cd, didn't even look at the songs
cause barbara isn't my kinda music.  but i'll be sure to pop the cd in stereo
as soon as she opens it to see if it is our water is wide...love karen

laura b johnson wrote:

> hey-
>         i just got my mom the new barbara streisand cd for christmas, and
> i was looking at the songs listed on the back and saw water is wide.
> anyone know whats goin on?  anyone heard it?  and i also recognized two
> or so other songs that had the same names as some other artists songs,
> one was if i could.  which is a tara maclean song so i figure the names
> are just coincidental.  and there was another one but i cant remember.
> and its already wrapped so i cant even look.  and i obviously cant just
> go and play it.  well, soon enough!  anyone know in the meantime?
> thanks.
> merry christmas and happy related or non-related holidays-
> laura
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here it is very late, i can never sleep on christmas eve, i should be
zzzzing cause the kids are gonna get po'd in the morning when we are
dragging, but i just wanted to take a second to tell you all how much
you mean to me, the card exchange was so awesome, and everyone here is
so friendly ('cept when they get mad at me) and  i just love being on
the list and in the spirit of jesus who came so long ago and still
lingers in our hearts, i wish you all holiday blessings, whatever your
religion, please be safe, feel love and above all don't forget all the
good in you and all humankind and

where can i get those 3 cd's that were posted tonite that kick ass?????

love, peace, and indigo dreams,   karen

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hello my kind  listee friends !

its late, i want to thank everyone on my card exchange list, those are all
great cards and i had fun .  i also want to offer a copy of curve to anyone on
the list who can't find a copy, i have an extra one.  all i ask is the price
of the mag....   $ 3.95   and   sase .

ill give it to the first one who responds.  peace and indigo to all of you,
good night !

: )     amy

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hi y'all!

merry christmas!  i hope everyone has a great day!  think of deb
now and then and be sure to watch it's a wonderful life at least
30 times.  it's good for the soul... :)

- rick

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except for my four shihtzu's!!  i had an ig dream...i dreamt i found
those 3 cd's!!  under the tree!!!

well the dogs are happy with their presents, i'm waiting patiently for
the rest of my family to wake up, i can't wait till they open their
stuff...i love giving.

i give you a a peaceful, merry holiday wish...see ya later

love, karen

ps  i got one of those wooden house mailboxes big enough to hold all my
ig tapes that come in the mail!!  hint hint to the wonderful person with
those 3 rare cd's

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hi y'all!  merry christmas (if you celebrate... i don't.  solstice is
over...)

anyway, i just wanted to throw in my $0.02 about the power of 2 single.
it is great!  get it!!!!  i found it on tape fro $7.00 at my local
feminist bookshop.  but...the only 2 songs on it are power of 2 and
rockin' in the free world (no mystery or dead man's hill).  so the next
day (i had not opened the tape yet...), i found the cd, with all 4 songs
for like $2.00 at this grungy used cd store (i szwear, those people who
work there know nothing about the girls, i once saw complicated girls (i
already had it..) for like $7.00).  soooooooo...i returned the tape to my
favorite bookshop, and kept the cd.

power of 2 is my fave song, so it makes sense that i would have the
single!  plus, the other 3 songs are great!  of you can find it, buy it!
i think there is also a place to order it over the web, but i can't
remember the address...

peace, :-), love, and ig!
:-) karen

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sorry to waste praaaaycious space, but i really need to reach this
chicky!
hay steph-i'm sending out your tapes tomorrow, and need to know whether
i should send them to your home address, or your school address...i have
both, so just let me know! if you don't respond soon, i'll just hold off
on sendin' them. ;)  btw...the study hall reject hasn't come yet, so i'm
only sending "fraze pavillion" and "amy's s.o.c.'s (which by the way has
an unbelievably shitty quality...the first little ditty is barely
audible...though i do remember in one of em' listening to her say...
'and...i felt really crappy!' and thinking about how adorable she
sounded...so, it's not *all* dat' bad! :) (whoah...that was some loong
"parenthesized (i know...that ain't a word ;)"  material....)" right
now....you'll get the study hall thing as soon as it reaches my digits.
a'ight..you have a snazzy christmas, a'ight?!  talk to ya' soon!

take care,
the bethany-ster....(a title which was so lovingly given to me by
                     someone on the list...can't remember who ;)

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i know that you can find in with the out crowd and one other european
bootleg cd somewhere on the web. i wish i could be more specific right
now, but it's been a couple of years since i went to the web site. it's a
big site where you can order tons of different albums and artists. i'll
see if i can find the address sometime during the week, but i'm not
sure. but anyway, for those of you desperate for these cd's, hope is not
lost. just keep looking.
-sam (who had a weird ig-christmas dream last night)

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wendell ...please e-mail me when you get a chance ....

your package was returned to me ....

chris

sorry for the nigc .... merry xmas to anyone reading

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hey guys
it's christmas, happy wishes to those celebratin'.
now for my plea, lately i've been having trouble w/realaudio...i've
tried redownloading it and everything but it keeps telling me servers
are invalid or the files aren't found. the same files i'm requesting,
however, work for other ppl (i.e. ani difranco on acoustic  live cafe)
anyhow, if anyone has any suggestions, i'd be happy to hear em...
i'm desperate..
*shrug*
  *smilez*
a.rae
who's beginning to feel puter illiterate.

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i think the first time i heard them was actually on mtv when the ctf
video was first playing. then i noticed the selftitled tape in among my
dad's stuff, and played that for a while. then i forgot about it (i was
um...a bit of a metalhead at the time...i had a band called hellbound
train that played a song called hellbound train...i try to block that
period out) until um...an episode of 21 jump street that had kid fears
on the soundtrack, and i dug through all the tapes and found that one
again, and i started listening to it again. over the years, it was my
dad who kindly supplied me with each new tape - so was the first one on
cd. he came to visit me at college once bearing 1200 curfews- he's a
cool dad.
strange thing...first time i saw the video, i remember somehow knowing
they were lesbians, and thinking "so, thats what lesbians look like..."
which is kind of ironic, considering that it was quite a few years until
i realized that i was one...man, i was a precocious little young 'un.

sarah
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sorry folks,   ya'll are fast to respond. and  the extra copy  has been given
away.

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i've disabled my link from my main page so that nobody can get to my
list........ could whoever knows about this bill-through-congress mess please
keep the list updated?  i'd llike to know when/if i can restore that link.

peace, harmony, and indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
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i am so excited!  my sister gave me money for an indigo girls ticket that i am
getting from someone on this list.  10th row on the floor!  woohoo!

merry christmas everyone!

"for unto us, a child is born.  and his name is jesus.  our lord and saviour."

dawn rene cozzolino

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hi all,
holiday greetings from chicago.  i was just wondering if anyone has any info
on whether or not the girls are planning to play in phoenix on 2/2/98.  i got
this info from someone, and don't know the venue, who has the ticketing
rights, etc.  i know ticketbastard doesn't so far, so please let me know if
you have any info.
thanks, keri
"it's coming along christmas, they're putting up reindeer and singing songs
about joy and peace..." -joni

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hi,
i forgot to say, "they're cutting down trees," but i hope everyone has all
done that by now.  :)

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hey list,
    hope everyone's holidays have been great.  this morning when we were
opening presents my mom said "oh, i meant to tell you, they played that indigo
girls song on q102 (a ridiculously commercial cincinnati radio station) the
other day".  and i said, "what, shame on you?" and she said, "no, the one you
always say is the best song ever written." and i said, "oh, closer to fine?"
and i sang the chorus, and she said "yeah, that's the one.  i was really
surprised to hear it.  i liked it a lot, though, maybe you could make me a
tape with that and some other indigo girls songs on it." and i started to
laugh because i couldn't believe it...my mom who came into the room where i
was watching the great woods concert and scooter boys was playing and she gave
me one of her looks because of the "cryin' about my own virginity"
part...wants an ig tape?  my mom who hates everything associated with
lesbianism...wants an ig tape?  anyway, i got 12! new cd's for
christmas...lift (i like it julie, if you're reading this), danielle howle,
the michelle malones i don't have, melissa ferrick, catie curtis, disappear
fear, patty larkin, and some others.  about the great woods concert...josh
seagel (sp?)  and emily both have that blue nail polish on.  kinda funny.  and
finally, my first time...in the first week of my oral communications class
sophomore year of high school, the teacher made us do these shoebox things
where we got up and talked about ourselves.  the teacher, who was also my
honors english teacher that year (my h.s. was kind of small) went first and
she had an ig cd in her shoebox and said "i love the indigo girls, i think
they're poets." and that settled it, i had to go out and buy a cd because i
loved that teacher.  my first was swamp ophelia, and the others followed in
rapid succession.
                                              stephanie
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date:         thu, 25 dec 1997 21:12:38 -0400
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on wed, 24 dec 1997, carol wrote:
> i said that.  don't y'all think she's so
> darn tootin' clever 'cuz i'm sure she got the inspiration from me.
>
> >"merry christmas to y'all, and to y'all an indigo night!"

oh yeah, you are the light in my life, you are my inspiiiiiiraaaaation.
"you should be so lucky!"
p.s. if *you're* the writer, carol ann, then quit studying plastics and
polymer coatings or whatever that *infinitely interesting* stuff is.  i'll
be waiting for your book to hit the stands.
you're such a bad influence on me, you corrupter. ;)
:p hee. jill.

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so, did anybody get cool ig stuff for the holidays??  i'm in heaven with
the swamp ophelia and nomads songbooks . . . only now i have to become a
lot better on guitar than i currently am.  and my mom got me some posters
in the mail, but they have yet to come . . . nooooooooooo!  but i'll hang
'em up as soon as they arrive -- what a happy thought!! :)  anyhoo, hope
that y'all had/ are having a great holiday!!!

love,
carolyn

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on 25 dec 1997, tigger <ndygotiggr@aol.com> wrote:
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i've disabled my link from my main page so that nobody can get to my
list........ could whoever knows about this bill-through-congress mess
please
keep the list updated?  i'd llike to know when/if i can restore that
link.
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fwiw, there were several bills introduced on the subject of copyrights
in the 105 congress - because "the industry" (publishing, music, etc)
lobbied for it... *hard*!

in all likelihood the bills introduced to toughen the copyright and
criminal infringement laws of titles 17 & 18 of the us code - will no
doubt pass both houses; be signed; and become law... imho.

the only real question is how it will affect boot trading in the future.

caution is probably warranted for those with boot tape trading lists on
their web pages... because isp's don't want to get in trouble with the
feds... so isp's will probably be the ones to crack down on individual
web pages (removing your page, denying you access, & possibly filing
suit - if only to protect their own butts)... *not* the gov't...

... unless you trade $5000 or more worth of boots in 6 months... if you
do, assuming the bills become law - you could face fed prosecution -
with penalties of prison &/or fines.

this is merely my 2½¢ on the subject.

oh, yeah... hope everyone is having a merry one!   :o)

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speaking of songbooks (i got nomads and self-title) i also found the
strange fire song book the other day.  i had no idea this existed, and to
think something that ancient (well, yeah, relatively speaking) was just
sitting across town in my little weird ball community.  actually 2 copies.
can you believe that?  i can't even find those things in ann arbor!  i'm
just impressed out of my mind.  okay that's it.  oh and sandy if you
happen to read this, i'm *still* getting my mail to you back.  send $ for
the postage.  no problem.  alright, happy thursday to you all...

marivel

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ok, jilly says that she "thought" it before i did.  well i say
bullhockey!!
i said it first...well to my knowledge anyhoo.  and it dosn't even
matter 'cuz jilly is still unsubscribed, and (besides the fact that this
message is alos going to jill) she won't even know what i'm saying about
her anyway.  hee hee

sfwobw---love,
  carol
ps--happy boxing day tomorrow (coming from someone who doesn't even know
what it is but always sees it on calenders--what it it anyway?  i don't
even know if its something you say "happy" to at all   hummm now)

>on wed, 24 dec 1997, carol wrote:
>> i said that.  don't y'all think she's so
>> darn tootin' clever 'cuz i'm sure she got the inspiration from me.
>>
>> >"merry christmas to y'all, and to y'all an indigo night!"
>
>oh yeah, you are the light in my life, you are my inspiiiiiiraaaaation.
>"you should be so lucky!"
>p.s. if *you're* the writer, carol ann, then quit studying plastics and
>polymer coatings or whatever that *infinitely interesting* stuff is.
i'll
>be waiting for your book to hit the stands.
>you're such a bad influence on me, you corrupter. ;)
>:p hee. jill.
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i just sent half a message!! sorry!!!!  . . . rick

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in a message dated 97-12-25 21:46:04 est, ceturett@juno.com writes:

<< and my mom got me some posters
in the mail, but they have yet to come . . . nooooooooooo! >>

grrr. i got i.o.u.'s for a couple of really cool laserdiscs that were
delayed!! (chasing amy, mallrats & the greatest movie of 97- waiting for
guffman!!! not to mention mary tyler moore in flirting with disaster! ):< !)

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in a message dated 97-12-25 19:54:03 est, igdarsteph@aol.com writes:

<< anyway, i got 12! new cd's for
christmas...lift (i like it julie, if you're reading this) >>

hmmm. lift must be one o' those cds that people love so much they decide to go
& buy copies for everyone!! lisa dupre gave me my very own "lifelike" cd for
my birthday a coupla weeks ago & i too was magically taken in!!!

raked in caroline aiken's "butler field" cd (with the ig singing along on the
title song), lisa loeb's "firecracker" (with shawn colvin harmonizing on one
song & a thank you to the ig!), the "death to the pixies" cd (including songs
from... "doolittle" which we can do all day), and dan bern's "dog boy van".
which um, has absolutely no connection to the indigo girls. <grin>

in other news, my dad loved michelle malone's x-mas album!!

and regarding a mention the other day about "water is wide" being on barbra
streisand's new album- i heard it- it's actually a medley consisting of wiw
and deep river. it's quite beautiful, but of course a totally different style
from the ig version... i prefer the ig version, but babs ain't bad either!!
another ig related song- my mom was given kenny loggin's greatest hits with
"the house at pooh corner". i don't remember hearing his version before, so i
was just like, no no no!! he's not allowed to do that. <grin>

ceturett@juno.com writes:

<< and my mom got me some posters
in the mail, but they have yet to come . . . nooooooooooo! >>

grrr. i got i.o.u.'s for a couple of really cool laserdiscs that were
delayed!! (chasing amy, mallrats & the greatest movie of 97- waiting for
guffman!!! not to mention mary tyler moore in flirting with disaster! ):< !)

ok that's all i'm gonna ramble on about. ;-) besides, i gotta go watch the
rest of tales in the city!! yeah!!
  rick
*everything i know i learned from my dad/ he learned it all from his/
and his dad just happened to be/ wrong about everything* -dan bern

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please i am begging anyone to send me a copy of curve.  i can't find it
anywhere.  i would eb willing to send money to pay for the mag, plus pay for
shipping.  and if anyone volunteers, since i am so desperate to have the
mag, i'll even trade it for a boot from my scarce undernourished boot
collection.  please, someone help me.
                                                  -kate

                                                   grnpeace@fullnet.com

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scriptures and dictate my offerings- i found my god in myself,
around myself- in every moment and piece of matter.
everything is animate."   a. ray

"don't critisize what you can't understand."  b.dylan
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hi everyone - hope your holidays are going stupendously....!!!

well, since everyone is talking about what they got for christmas, i'll tell
y'all what i got, too, just in case you're wonderin'.... some tortex dunlop
picks and a shubb capo (both used by none other than - you guessed it - a and
e - well, not literally used by them, but you know what i mean)... the nis
songbook to add to my collection... the  2 ig albums on cd which i had
previously only on tape - wow, ever listened to a really warped tape before?
:-) ... and last, but not least, "live at the uptown lounge," which should
come in the mail in the next few days!!  (thanks to everyone who personally
emailed me recommending this video! i can't wait to see it!)
so those were my ig goodies that i received - what a great holiday this is!!

speaking of presents/ig(wait, what else would we be speaking of?)/ presents,
someone mentioned getting some posters, arriving in the mail soon? i would
kill to find out where to get ig posters - both my family and i searched all
over the place trying to find some - if anyone knows a good source for ig
posters, please let me know and you can really make my christmas!!

next on the agenda, dreams... well, when people started posting their dreams
on the list, i was thinking how silly it was, as i didn't know anyone
personally and most dreams are sort of the you-had-to-have-been-there thing -
but very quickly i really got into reading the dreams. thanks y'all. and, for
those who are like me, wanna know what i dreamt last night? -- (wow, xmas eve,
is that a sign or what?!) i'll make it short... i was driving in this jeep and
amy was right next to me and somehow i knew it but she was invisible.(i guess
it's always like that, huh.) i went up to this big stately building and went
inside, burst past all these guards and found my way into this cramped little
room where amy was recording (this time i could see her). i was so elated that
i jumped up and when i landed i hit some sort of switchboard.  it changed the
way the music was sounding and she got really happy with it and noticed me and
suddenly loved me very much.  she asked me to be her personal
asst/producer/best friend and of course i said ok.  we hugged a lot (not in a
sexual way but just in that huggy-squeezy-friend way) and she smelled mm-mm so
good. one very vivid thing about this dream is i opened my eyes as we hugged
and i noticed that amy had these gray hairs growing among the others.  but i
remember being very happy to see her gray hairs - perhaps they were a symbol
of her wisdom?  anyway, i won't go on with that anymore, but it was a
delicious dream and quite the christmas present...

btw, have any of you ever thought what it is going to be like when amy and
emily get older? like into the gray hair and wrinkly stage?  they'll still be
beautiful, of course, and i'll be getting older too, but it's weird to think
because right now they seem quite ageless to me...

i have more to write (naturally) but i'll do that tomorrow - sorry for all
that :-)........

~flora

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i did, however, get ani (dilate), bob dylan (greatest hits), the clash (combat
rock), toad the wet sprocket (acoustic dance mix ep), sarah mclachlan (touch),
philadelphia (original mp score - i asked for the soundtrack with ig, but you
gotta love my brother, he can't friggin read), and sheryl crow (tuesday night
music club).  also i got a cd player for my car!!!!!!!  and 4 computer games
(3 star trek and a star wars monopoly)and an answering machine - if anyone
wants to hear ig on my answering machine sounding like they live here, gimme a
call!!!!  :o)  and of course clothes (5 pr jeans & 4 sweatshirts, they know
what i like), and 4 beanie babies (twigs the giraffe, snort the razorback hog,
ears the rabbit and stinky the skunk for those of you who keep tabs on these
damn beanbag things), and 2 adorable dragon figurines from my brother.  and
not a damn thing from my girlfriend and i hope she knows i'm gonna remember
that!!!!!!!!!  grrr.
no ig but overall a pretty damn good haul  :o)

merry christmas, y'all!!!

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
    -  president, grlchasr26 fan club
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thought," said rabbit, "only i didn't like to say anything,"
said rabbit, "that one of us was eating too much," said
rabbit, "and i knew it wasn't _me_," he said.  "well, well,
i shall go and fetch christopher robin."
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hello all!
i hope everyone's holiday was nice.....mine was!

i was very pleased to open my rites of passage songbook.  i couldn't wait to
start playing.  that was the best gift of the morning until my parents
surprised me with an electric guitar!!!! woo hoo! of course all i wanted to do
all day was play my ig songs on it but i couldn't.  i'll just stay up all
night:).  anyways, i went to my cousins house and she gave me the watershed
video:)! happy me:)  i hope everyone enjoyed their day as much as i did.:)

happy holidays,
robyn

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okay, y'all- i would normally never post anything like this to the
whole list, and it may be completely inappropriate regardless of the fact
that the list is slow right now due to the holidays (although this is my
justification for posting it).  i just figured since so many of you are
x-files fans, you might be interested.  for those of you who aren't,
sfwbw, and you can hit delete right now.......

(but if you're even halfway interested, it *is* cute, so read on......)

>57 elm street bethlehem, pa. 11:51 p.m., december 24th
>
>we're too late! it's already been here.
>
>mulder, i hope you know what you're doing.
>
>look, scully, just like the other homes: douglas fir, truncated,
>mounted, transformed into a shrine; halls decked with boughs of holly;
>stockings hung by the chimney, with care.
>
>you really think someone's been here?
>
>someone ... or something.
>
>mulder, over here-it's a fruitcake.
>
>don't touch it!  those things can be lethal.
>
>it's o.k.  there's a note attached: "gonna find out who's naughty and
>nice."
>
>it's judging them, scully.  it's making a list.
>
>who?  what are you talking about?
>
>ancient mythology tells of an obese humanoid entity who could travel at
>great speed in a craft powered by antlered servants.  once each year,
>near the winter solstice, this creature is said to descend from the
>heavens to reward its followers and punish disbelievers with jagged
>chunks of anthracite. but that's legend, mulder-a story told by parents
>to frighten children.
>
>surely you don't believe it?
>
>something was here tonight, scully.  check out the bite marks on this
>gingerbread man.  whatever tore through this plate of cookies was
>massive-and in a hurry.
>
>it left crumbs everywhere.  and look, mulder, this milk glass has been
>completely drained.
>
>it gorged itself, scully.  it fed without remorse.
>
>but why would they leave it milk and cookies?
>
>appeasement.  tonight is the eve, and nothing can stop its wilding.
>
>but if this thing does exist, how did it get in? the doors and windows
>were locked.  there's no sign of forced entry.
>
>unless i miss my guess, it came through the fireplace.
>
>wait a minute, mulder.  if you're saying some huge creature landed on
>the roof and came down this chimney, you're crazy. the flue is barely
>six inches wide. nothing could get down there.
>
>but what if it could alter its shape, move in all directions at once?
>
>you mean, like a bowl full of jelly?
>
>exactly.  scully, i've never told anyone this, but when i was a child my
>home was visited.  i saw the creature.  it had long white shanks of fur
>surrounding its ruddy, misshapen head.  its bloated torso was red and
>white.  i'll never forget the horror.  i turned away, and when i looked
>back it had somehow taken on the facial features of my father.
>
>impossible.
>
>i know what i saw.  and that night it read my mind.  it brought me a mr.
>potato head, scully.  it knew that i wanted a mr. potato head!
>
>i'm sorry, mulder, but you're asking me to disregard the laws of
>physics.  you want me to believe in some supernatural being who soars
>across the skies and brings gifts to good little girls and boys.
>listen to what you're saying.  do you understand the repercussions?
>if this gets out, they'll close the x-files.
>
>scully, listen to me: it knows when you're sleeping.  it knows when
>you're awake.
>
>but we have no proof.
>
>last year, on this exact date, seti radio telescopes detected bogeys in
>the airspace over twenty-seven states.  the white house ordered a
>condition red.
>
>but that was a meteor shower.
>
>officially.  two days ago, eight prized scandinavian reindeer vanished
>from the national zoo, in washington, d.c.  nobody-not even the
>zookeeper-was told about it.  the government doesn't want people to know
>about project kringle.  they fear that if this thing is proved to exist
>the public will stop spending half its annual income in a holiday
>shopping frenzy.  retail markets will collapse.  scully, they cannot let
>the world believe this creature lives.  there's too much at stake.
>they'll do whatever it takes to insure another silent night.
>
>mulder, i-
>
>sh-h-h.  do you hear what i hear?
>
>on the roof.  it sounds like ... a clatter.
>
>the truth is up there.  let's see what's the matter.
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from:    lori and gavin macleod <macleods@spectranet.ca>>

>also, if anyone has a boot of the recent lilith in florida with this i >would kill for it thanks and happy holidays to everyone! =)
>lori

i have a copy of this show. i haven't listened to it in it's entirety, but the quality seems to be pretty good (slight distortion during some parts cuz the recorder was very close to the monitors.)  anyway, it's about 45minutes long...i have sarah's set too, so both fit nicely on a 90m cassette tape.
while i'm at it i might as well mention i've got some sweet recordings of a couple of lilith shows from the summer - raleigh, nc and vancouver, bc.  both are excellent quality (if you don't mind the occasional audience chitchat) and the set lists are diverse (arcadian driftwood with shawn colvin! yippee!). i can post the exact set lists if people are interested, but i don't have that info in front of me at this time. anyway, whoever wants a copy email me and we'll set up something. let me know if you can be a branch cuz if enough people are interested i'll set up a tree.

peace, love and all that good stuff,
traci
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number one on the creative charts for me was a nerd shirt that said:

c:\dos
c:\dos run
run dos run

on the front...but then i wouldn't be on the ig list without a 'puter ;)

jude :)

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hey everybody!

hope you all had a wonderful holiday and enjoyed time spent with your loved
ones!  i just had to hop on for a moment to thank all of you who sent me the
great affirming messages about my parenting skills - i feel like i'm doing the
right thing by exposing my kids to real life, and obviously some of you agree.
that made me feel really good!  see ya
bonnie

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in a message dated 97-12-24 05:17:19 est, barbarab@megsinet.net writes:

<< (btw, i have never heard ctf on the radio!)
  >>

just had to take a moment to brag about our wonderful wfpk here in louisville,
which plays the ig in regular rotation, and has actually honored my request
for tuib, as well as many other ig favorites.  i've heard strange fire,
galileo, the wood song, po2 and many others in the past 2 years of this great
station.  one day my favorite ex deejay even did a 2 hour ig special,
chronicling their whole career.  can anybody beat that???  wehn passing
through - turn your dial to fm 91.9 and groove on it!

bonnie

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hey y'all!

my coolest present was my new mailbox!!   its so cute, it looks like my
house, has shingles and everything and its huge!!  i also go music money
for the wall but it got lost in the family frenzy of opening gifts!  i
also got a melissa etheridge b side from my son, a dual cd..i can't wait
to hear it. also some beautiful santa's and lots of golf stuff and
caphalon cookware.

sitting her bummed cause hubby is golfing and my elbow is broke : ( and
i can't go,

love,  karen

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i can remember the first time i listened to the girls was in 1989
-and i saw their tape at the library here in town.  i always try to
pick up new and interesting tapes/cds to give a listen to.  anyway, i
got it out to the car and put it on and was immediately hooked on
their voices.  i was actually stunned by what i heard and know that i
must have rewound and replayed ctf and prince of darkness a dozen
times that day.  that first tape still has a special place in my
collection because it was the first and still brings back those same
emotions that i felt on that day.

if i was stranded on that island it would be real tuff to narrow my
selection down to just one...it would have to be rites of passage and
curfews if i could stretch it to two compilations.  if i could
stretch it to just three i'd have to also have some madonna or queen
music there with me too.  wow, i never realized this would be such a
major decision to make.

lori
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i just wanted to add my 2 cents to this discussion of bootlegs. i agree with
mel (are we both lawyers??) about the interpretation of the senate bills,
which are, btw, still only bills, and not yet law.

but i wanted to add that there is a slight difference between trading copies
of commerically made products that the record companies/artists are selling on
the market versus trading copies of items that have never been or are no
longer available to be purchased anywhere. it slices the baloney a little
thin, but law does that a lot!

yes, you probably won't have to worry unless you're trading huge volumes, but
it also matters what you're trading. if  it's, for example, least compilated,
the (way cool) compilation of cover tunes, that contains versions of songs
that can be purchased elsewhere, as opposed to a vintage independent thing
like color me grey that you can't buy on the market anywhere. a whole
different animal is a concert boot that someone made. pirating is not the same
as bootlegging, and is covered by different laws entirely. well, not entirely,
but somewhat. now that we're all totally confused- let me add the last
wrinkle- a song is a copyrighted thing, no matter where/when it is performed.
however, this bill appears to be intended to crack down on mass dubbers who
sell or trade for profit or gain large amounts ($5,000.00 w/in 6 mos) of
materials that the artists themselves simultaneously have on the market.

the intent is not to prevent the open sharing of cool music that is otherwise
unavailable to the buying public, although this may be the effect. the intent
is to stop people who take money out of the hands of the artists and music
industry. laws are rarely wonderfully written. they often say things that
don't have anything to do with how they get enforced. i agree with mel that if
you have an open web page that offers trades to strangers, you probably should
disable it, because someone may stumble on it not knowing what you're trading
and you may have quite a headache until it is proven that you/your stuff isn't
covered by this law. but for the majority of us that offer to dub an otherwise
unavailable tape for postage and a blank, i don't think we have to worry.
besides, we listees buy whatever we can get our hands on, and only ask for
boots of otherwise unavailable stuff. most of us would gladly buy any other
product the ig put out there. heck, we're begging each other for info on where
to buy some of the rare stuff!! i strongly feel our type of stuff is not the
focus of this law. welcome any other thoughts!

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date:         fri, 26 dec 1997 11:28:00 est
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i am trying to find the indigo girls video they put out a while back.  the one
where they are being interviewed and they play some videos.  any help out
there?

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date:         fri, 26 dec 1997 10:54:24 -0600
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>so, did anybody get cool ig stuff for the holidays??

my cool and wonderful friend arin just got back from a semester in europe,
and she brought me 4.5 from tower in london.  it's on right now, and y'all
are right...it does sound better than the originals on some songs.  okay,
so maybe it's the power of suggestion...this stereo i have isn't exactly
audiophile-worthy.

happy holidays, and i hope you all have someone to kiss on new year's eve!

justin

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but you don't have to be an angel
to sing harmony

you don't have to be a child
to love the mystery

and you don't have to be a wise man
on bended knee

the heart of this christmas
is in you and me!
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date:         fri, 26 dec 1997 12:43:48 est
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hey, i'm getting jealous of all these cool camp stories.  does anyone know of
a camp that let's 25 year olds attend?
love,
molly o+

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date:         fri, 26 dec 1997 14:33:50 -0500
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subject:      ig collectors addition cd

over the holidays i recieved a cd from my girlfriend.  i hjad never seen
any thing like it before.  i was wondering if any of you have.  it is the
collection addition of the self titled cd.  it is a 24-karat gold disk,
it also has complete original art work, 4-color cd picture labels.  it
says that it was recorded from the original master tapes and that it
contains reviews from 3 magizines.  if anyone knows anything about this
let me know either ptivately or on the list thanks.

sarah

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lots of on-sale activity this weekend!

if you're interested in the bay area shows (san francisco (1/26 and 1/27
at the warfield) and sacramento (1/28 at memorial auditorium) call bass
tickets for information.

basscharge
(510) 762-bass
(408) 998-bass
(916) 923-bass
(707) 546-bass
(209) 226-bass
outside ca only
(800) 225-bass

if you're interested in arizona, call dillards tickets.

phoenix metro    602-503-5555                     or
outside phoenix metro   800-638-4253

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this question looks like it came directly to my email in box. i dont know the
answer but thot maybe someone on the list might know. please reply to
ddilink@compuserv.com, not me. thanks.

michelle

> i love the new album but i do have one question.  my friends and i
>  started a discussion recently as to what the actual ship was that came
>  over in 1694 in your "shame on you" song.  we don't know if it was just
>  a general immigrant carrying ship or a specific ship in general.  could
>  you put an answer to this what seems endless quest to find the answer?
>  could you please either email back at this email address or
>  ddilink@compuserv.com.  thank you.  marissa brown (inquiring mind)

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in a message dated 97-12-25 23:52:33 est, fauna88@aol.com writes:

<< btw, have any of you ever thought what it is going to be like when amy and
emily get older? l >>

no big deal - it will be just like how joni mitchell and joan baez got older
and even cooler than they were in their 20's.  they will rock as older women!!

bonnie

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hey all!

i remember agreeing to trade with *someone* for a copy of the show in
new haven a couple months ago....and i'm not sure what happened to this
deal...so, if anyone wants to trade for this tape, i'd really appreciate
it.

pam.....got the umbc boot today...love it, and the card...excellent.
i just want you to know i got it "safely" :) and that yours will be out
soon. (sorry...holiday job, family) i got a new audio system for
christmas... your boot'll be the first ;)

also, lastly, my little happy ig moment, of sorts. my brother who is 13,
obsessed with pro wrestling and golf, was sitting in my room when i came
home, writing, and singing soy.....and he knew all the lyrics! it was
cute.... anyway.... and he also told me that sm's "sweet surrender" is
his favorite song....there is hope for the boy yet!! :)

okay... hope you all had an excellent holiday!
becks

and also, posessor of the boston boot: i could be a branch if you stil;l
need 'em.

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i didn't get anything ig-related, but i gave my gf a sots cd.  i buried it on the bottom of the box, which contained another gift.  she liked the other gift, but when she saw the cd, she just lit up, and gave me a big kiss.  sharing/helping her discover ig, and discussing the lyrics, has been an important part of our relationship, so it must have meant a lot to her.  she hadn't been able to borrow sots from the library (she's a poor art student, can't just go buy the whole collection), since there's probably a high demand for it.  also it being a much more "out" cd than their previous ones, i think makes it that much more significant, as a gift from me to her, me being a neophyte & all.  her fave so far is sys, since snakes have a special meaning to her related to a past experience.

hope y'all had a great holiday!
peace,
barb

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date:         fri, 26 dec 1997 15:53:40 -0800
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i think the address to find those bootleg cd's (in with the out crowd,
etc.) is <http://www.kts.it> but i can't get through to it and neither
can another kind and helpful listee. can any of you folks with internet
access get through to this site and see if it is a music ordering place,
or else can anyone figure out if the site is defunct or something?
thanks, i'm sure many listee will appreciate the help in finding these
sought after boots.
-sam (who gets to go clean her room)
oh, hey, p.s. - who booted the 7/12 show at the pier this summer? i'd
swear i sent off tapes for it, but i didn't write down who i sent them
to. can anyone help? thanks.

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hey there....i think most of us that have been sending posts about gs camps are
actually counselors, not campers at them!  :-)  so, just find you a nice girl
scout camp to work at this summer!  :-)

take care,
sharon

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> hey, i'm getting jealous of all these cool camp stories.  does anyone know of
> a camp that let's 25 year olds attend?
> love,
> molly o+
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hey guys
just wanted to let you all know that the full curve article on sara lee
which appeared in the magazine several months ago is finally up...
  sorry for the delay, i encourage you all who haven't checked it out to
do so...it's a prrty darn good piece of writing w/cute insights to ig
and ani...and sara herself, naturally!
http://members.tripod.com/~dykeland3/sara/
scroll down near the bottom to interesting facts/stories.

much luff to the humans
a.rae

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date:         fri, 26 dec 1997 20:21:18 -0500
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i seen a various artist cd called i think hitchhikers and it hd the girls
on there singing a song from the strange fire cd

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hey everyone,
ok this is prolly old news, but i have nothing to do so i will ask anyways, i
remember a while ago ladyslipper said that a 1200 curfews guitar book would be
available, and i got my little guitar music catalog today and it finally had
the 1200 curfews book and even a cute little picture of it so they really do
have it.  my question - does anyone have this yet ??? if so is it worth it,
(ok so i would probably buy it anyways just because its ig) but i just want to
know if i can expect cool solos tabbed out for me, or just chords i really
already knew...ok, back to boredom...

oh yeah one more thing, whoever was looking for the green day tab for good
riddance (time of your life), if you havent gotten the complete tab yet, i was
cleaning my room and found the guitar world from a little while back with the
complete tab and bass, so if you want it lemme know

peace
sasha

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okay, this is the last time i'm going to yack about this. i entered the
web address <www.kts.it> into yahoo's search engine and sure enough it's
a real site for some music company. however, i still can't get through,
and neither can those who have tried. so i guess that's all i can do to
help you folks. i don't know what's wrong with the site, so it's up to
someone else to straighten this out, if possible. thanks to those who
helped me.
-sam

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howdy,

normally, you shouldn't post the addresses for any bootleg business on
the web. however, in this case it really doesn't matter. "kiss the
stone" went out of business sometime in september? there was a bunch of
talk about it in the bootlegs newsgroup during the summer. they were
only going to finish processing the orders they had and not accept any
new orders. after they got all the orders to the customers, they would
no longer be in business. i think they got to be too "well known" and
were on the verge on getting some unwanted attention.

i'm harboring a fugitive,
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hello all...
happy holidays and all that good stuff...a few questions..any help would be
appreciated...

1. concerning the watershed video..does anyone know where the girls are when
they sing reunion at the end...(anyone at the columbus show in 94' think it
look familiar?)

2. anyone know how to play leeds or know where i can find the chord info etc.?
i want to learn how to play, but i can't seem to figure it out...

anyway..thanks!

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sorry to be a pain, luvvies, but i have to apologize to everyone i owe boots
to (so many i've lost complete count).  i have everything home with me but
my stereo has had a nervous breakdown lately due to overwork.  she will
return to operation shortly, as will her mistress.  please excuse her, while
i beat her into submission and return you to your regularly scheduled igc
(we can hope).

psst--go buy curve!!!  scanned pix and transcripts aren't fair to the hard
working grrlies putting it out.  if only those shots of amy were in glorious
3-d.  hubba hubba.  hi dianne!  ;)

h, seeing dar tomorrow at club passim (badasston)--anyone going besides my
grrl pack?

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date:         sat, 27 dec 1997 01:58:30 -0400
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okay fellers...i didn't think i was gonna havta' do this, buuuuut....
if you plan on sendin' me your tapes any later than first week of
january...you're gonna have to contact me so i can give ya' my new
address.  i'm hitting the hairy trail back to school on the 10th, and
want to make sure that they all reach me as quickly as possible.  :)
thanks!

take care,
bethany ;)
(making her usual 2 a.m. post!)

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hey y'all!!

last night we went to a music store at the outlets in lancaster and i
found an import called uptown girls...it felt like christmas all over!!
anyway, it says it was taped at the uptown in georgia and if i'm not
mistaken, i think its a cd of uptown lounge.  does anyone else have this
cd?  its great quality music, and my first rare find. (if its rare)

love,  karen

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vh1 is having back-to-back episodes of 'behind the music' on new year's
day. the segment of lilith fair is scheduled to be broadcast at 6:00 pm
est, according to my local tv listings.

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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<< the
also know the ig are gay, and that some of my friends are gay, and that
people
on tv are gay.  we talk about it openly so they can get the concept and be
accepting of a diverse group of folks.   i hope i'm not exposing them to too
much adult content in life - what do y'all think?  >>

i think that not talking about things like homosexuality is just as bad as
condemning it.  some might say you should wait til your kids are a little
older to discuss these things, but they're going to hear little bits about it
here and there, and if you don't talk about it or if you skirt around their
questions, that's just like saying there's something wrong with it.  and
imagine all of the misinformation that they would get if they were to go to
their friends first w/ these kinds of questions, or to adults w/ a twisted,
bigoted opinion of gays/lesbians.  i say it's too bad there aren't more
parents whe aren't afraid to do what you and probably lots of other moms and
dads on this list are doing.  we (gays, lesbians, and everyone interested in
having a hate-free society) owe parents like you a lot!!
who says moms are underappreciated?!?!   (c:
love,
molly o+

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date:         sat, 27 dec 1997 10:01:53 -0800
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if anyone has bay area info for jan ig venues or tickets,
please post or email me.  all i've seen are the dates
1/27, 1/28, 1/29.  thanks,  rosemary

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hey all!

well many of you wanted to know that i received your $ and sases so i'm
gonna just post this short list of people and their states (to
avoid confusion) rather than find all of your addresses and
do it individually.  the following people have sent me their stuff and
i'll have the pictures out to you all in the next day or 2.

tigger(fl)    alexandra (md)
lynn(wa)      kristin h. (mo)
jami(nj)      cheryle(ca)
karla(wi)     chloe (ny)
resa(wa)      terri (pa)

oh and one last thing, 2 of the people who wrote me for the 7 sets of
photos i had pre-printed haev just given me their e-mail addresses.  could
grlchaser26 and love1318 please make sure to put that address on a note
with the sase if you haven't sent it yet, or e-mail me with a first name
so i can recognize your package and i'll know to give you one of the
already prepared set of photos.
thanks...

marivel

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subject:      indigo girls on ellen!! (nmmc)
x-cc:         igboston@palin.mit.edu, devil-moon@smoe.org

at the site

http://www.rockontv.com

it says the indigo girls will be on ellen january 7th, along with sarah
mclachlan. please do not e-mail me questions, because this is all i know.
go to the site if you want further info...

rawk on!! cannot wait for dar tonight!!!!!!
lizliz
ps-michelle m coming to mpls soon? anyone know?

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at 11:25 am 12/26/97 -0800, a. taub wrote:
>lots of on-sale activity this weekend!
>
>if you're interested in the bay area shows (san francisco (1/26 and 1/27
>at the warfield) and sacramento (1/28 at memorial auditorium) call bass
>tickets for information.
>
>basscharge
> (510) 762-bass
> (408) 998-bass
> (916) 923-bass
> (707) 546-bass
> (209) 226-bass
> outside ca only
> (800) 225-bass
>
>if you're interested in arizona, call dillards tickets.
>
>phoenix metro    602-503-5555                     or
>outside phoenix metro   800-638-4253

i called up bass and the tickets are really going on sale!!!...oh...the
sacremento dates are already being sold as i speak , but for the one in san
francisco, warfield, they go on sale tomorrow @ 10:00am (december 28th,
sunday)
nem :)

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subject:      thanks

thanks to all about the info on the cd.  i haven't opened mine yet, but i
think that i am going to.  i will let you know what it has in it when i
do.

thanks you all
sarah

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okay, i need help.  since so many of us are girl scouts or girl scout camp
counselors...i figure somebody knows how to play all the classic gs songs on
the guitar, like "linger" and "make new friends".  we're having a girl scout
reunion (how cheesy is that?) and i want to make my gs1633 buddies laugh with
my newly acquired guitar playing "skills".  so c'mon, sarah pinsker and
others...i know you know them.  and i need some advice about playing electric
too.  my dad, who has never played the guitar in his life, suddenly decided
yesterday that he wanted an electric guitar.  so he bought one.  shame on you
finally sounds right - an acoustic just doesn't do it justice.  so i need some
electric tips...anybody? anybody?
                                  have a great day!  stephanie

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date:         sat, 27 dec 1997 16:05:41 est
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ok so i called today,thinking, "yes i will have it in my posession by
tuesday..." or not.  the guy at music central said they had expected it to be
done by jan 1. but its been a little delayed as we all know.  so then i
started to get annoyed and asked why did they have it advertised with a
picture and all...blah blah blah... and he said they thought it would be ready
but they expect it to be done any day now, but most likely in the next 3
weeks, so you can pre-order it and they will call when its ready and send it.
its 24.95 and its the "guitar-recorded versions" with the little triangle
which usually means the whole thing is tabbed out which is very cool, unlike
previous ig books.    but if anyone is interested in preordering lemme know
privately and i will give you the number and all, they ups stuff too, so the
price isnt too bad...you can also probably pre-order from ladyslipper  if you
so desire...whatever...

peace
sasha

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hey y'all!  i hope you had a happy ____________ (fill in the blank!).
        anyway, i am in search of someone who could copy tuesday's
children and/or color me grey and/or blue food for me.  i don't have
anything to trade, but i will send you a tape, an envelope, and postage
((plus a huge thanks!!!!).
        i am alos looking for any good boot with hammer and nail and power
of 2 (or wither of these songs, it does not necessarily need to have
both).  please contact me via e-mail if you can help me here.  thanks so
much!

peace, love, :-) and ig,
karen :-)

ps- sorry for all the spelling and grammatical errors in this message.  i
am telnetting into my account and it is very slow and nearly impossible to
correct errors!  :-)

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hey yall,
        i hope everyone had good holidays.  today at target i found "back on the
bus ya'll" for $3.00.  i thought that was pretty good.  i have never heard
their versiojn of all along the watchtower before.  it's pretty cool.  i
also love 123 and tried to be true.
                                chelsea

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at 07:02 pm 12/26/1997 -0800, you wrote:

i tried too,  it doesn't work.

>okay, this is the last time i'm going to yack about this. i entered the
>web address <www.kts.it> into yahoo's search engine and sure enough it's
>a real site for some music company. however, i still can't get through,
>and neither can those who have tried. so i guess that's all i can do to
>help you folks. i don't know what's wrong with the site, so it's up to
>someone else to straighten this out, if possible. thanks to those who
>helped me.
>-sam
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ok, so that was a bad subject line.  things seem a little quiet out there -
that's fine - i hope everyone is spending a wonderful time with the holidays
and/or their families.  i, for one, am having a great vacation...
anyway, here's something that i was sorta hoping would come up, just for the
viewing pleasure of moi... who here has actually met amy and/or emily before?
i have to admit that the only relationship that i have with them thus far is
solely in my dreams (and unanswered letters).  i would, however, love to hear
from other people who have met them, and i promise i will only feel a little
jealous (well, maybe a bit more, but i'll love you anyway).  would anyone else
like to hear long, second-by-second accounts of encounters with the girls?
well, just wondering...
thanks y'all

~flora

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in a message dated 97-12-27 21:26:21 est, fauna88@aol.com writes:

<< who here has actually met amy and/or emily before? >>

ooh, you mean i get to tell my story *again*?????  yaaaaaay!!!!  :o)

so, at valdosta, ga on oct 18, 1997, i got there early and was lucky enough
(with some other folks - hey lisa & heather!) to meet amy (!!!!!) who was kind
and gracious enough to sign autographs for all of us and take pictures with
us.  i will admit to being somewhat surprised that she's shorter than me.
(i'm 5' 8").

then, during the show, i became a member of that elite group of guest singers
on closer to fine(!!!!!!!!!)  and a big thank-you to wendell who got onstage
at berkeley, for giving me the idea in the first place.  (for those who
haven't already heard this story 5 thousand times <grin @ my {s roombuds}> i
held up a sign asking if i could come up & sing.  they said i could.)  then
after i sang, my goddess amy, recognizing her high priestess, gave me a big
ol' bear hug, thus making my entire year.

that's my story.  thanks y'all for letting me relive it one more time :o)

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
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date:         sat, 27 dec 1997 23:13:06 -0500
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subject:      lilith fair special on vh1

i really enjoyed watching this thing.  i don't have any ig videos, and
the only time i've seen them on tv was a dave letterman show two years
ago.  now i know what y'all were talking about when they first showed the
special.

i wonder why they only interviewed amy and not emily.  okay, so there was
a few spots when it was both of them, but it felt unbalanced.  not that i
didn't want to see lots of amy, but it wasn't the indigo girls without
emily.

i did think it was cool that sarah (i think) said that everyone began to
bond together once the girls joined the tour.  wow.  wouldn't it be great
if one day i learn how to really play the guitar and write songs and i
record and then i get to do a lilith tour with some of my favorite
musicians?  nah, it'll never happen.

:)
anna

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date:         sat, 27 dec 1997 23:08:02 -0500
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subject:      (nigc) dar williams & catie curtis

hey kind friends....

i got some christmas cash and decided to spend it on dar's honesty room,
but it was nowhere to be found in my fabulous record store, although it
should have been there.  so, me and my music pals went up to bowling
green's finders record store, and they didn't have it either!  i was
really bummed, and the people at the store were bummed, too, 'cause they
thought they should have it there.  so, one of the guys that works there
tells me that he saw ten copies of it in a cut out bin of a tape store in
the bowling green mall.  woo-hoo!  it was copies of the version done on
her first label, so i don't know if it's different (as in sound/style)
from the one done one razor & tie.  however, it was $3.99, so i couldn't
pass it up!  by the time i got to the bin, there were only two left (that
was last night, if anyone cares).  yay!  more dar music!  hey, i've got
all of the ig cds, so i have to get excited over something.....

my sister gave me the new catie curtis cd, and i've been enjoying it for
the past few days.  i was looking at the liner notes, and what do you
know, but our very own kristina cizas ('scuse me if i misspelled your
name - left the cd at home) is mentioned in the thank you notes.
probably because of her very cool catie web page.  yay!

:)
anna

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yeah!  i looooooove telling my indigo story!  thanks to whoever asked!
:-)

okay, here's how it happened.  i live in chicago (not ohio, that is where
i go to school...).  anyway, i had alrady drove to see the girls at the
fraze in kettering and i was so excited to see them again at lilith fair
(chicago).  so a few weeks before lilith, borders bookstore announced that
the ig's would be there to sign and chat the day of lilith!  being the
loyal ig fan (and not really caring about jewel or lisa loeb), i hauled my
butt downtown to meet the girls and arrive at lilith late.

okay (not to brag) i must have been one of the only non "ohmygosh, i love
the indigo girls!  'shame on you' rocks and i think i heard of some song
called 'galileo' " fans there.  i had them sign my cherished copy of
"complicated girls" but now i am kicking myselfd for not letting them sign
nomads*indians*saints since that is my fave album).

anyway, i had to wait in line (not too long since i got there early).  i
was with my friend ruth (she was not nearly as excited as i was...some of
you might remember her, she was the person i saw the dayton show with).
when it was finally my turn, i went up there and first introduced myself.
then i preceded to give the girls soome japanese candy from my japanese
professor who loves them (but not as much as i do).  they were like "gee,
thanks!"  it was really funny cause i handed them the candy and said "this
is from my japanese prof.  (looked right at amy) her name is amy also (amy
smiles...look at both of them again) she loves you almost as much as i
do."  then i asked them to play "power of 2" (my fave song; after 4 shows,
you would think that i'd get to hear it...) that night.  amy kindly
explained that a) they have a very short and limited set (remember, this
was a lilith date) and b) that they already wrote the set list, but they'd
try (it didn't happen...oh well...).

that is when i lost it.  i started crying.  i explained that meeting them
was my dream come true (yes, i have frequent indigo dreams) and that i
have loved them forever.  they were like "wow!  thanks!"  (okay, so i
sounded like another obsessed fan...).  i shoke their hands (i didn't want
to wash my hand!!!!, but i did...) and then i left with my autographed
copy of complicated girls (to karen love emily and to karen, peace, amy).
it was the best moment of my life!

i hope that everyone on this list gets to meet them!  we're all obviously
really loyal and obsessed (okay, maybe i speak for myself here, but i
really do worship them) fans.  we all deserve to meet them!

peace, love, :-), and ig

:-) karen

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this is for kate roberts:  i don't have your email so i couldn't do this
privately... i need your friend jenny's address so i can send her and
mic some dayton pics that i owe them.   thanks hon.
jill

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date:         sun, 28 dec 1997 13:18:19 -0500
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ok...so i have to jump on the bandwagon here and tell mine...

before the show at the sundome in tampa ( in which i had 2nd row
tix...yeah!)  the girls went to barnes and noble to do a signing for honor
the earth.  there weren't that many people there...probably 200-300 is my
guess.  we each had a piece of paper that we wrote our names on to give to
amy and em so they could do the signings faster.  when i got up there i
forgot to put my paper down on the table so they could read it ...
yipes!!!  they looked at me really silly...and i was like..."whoops...here
you go..." and gave them the paper.  amy had a rage shirt on....i was so
pschyed....i had to comment on it.  i looked at amy and said,
"rage....like em'?  they're a great band!!".  she said "yeah" and nodded
her head in agreement.  then after the signings....they roped off a
section and played "galileo" acoustically.  i was right in front of
them...about 10 feet infront of them.  it was so incredible.  then after
they played...they made their way through the crowd and shook the people
hand's that they didn't get to in the signings.  i made my way in the line
and amy held out her hand and i held onto it...she looked at me straight
in the eyes...it was almost as though we had this sort of "moment".  i
felt as though she was really in tune with her fans.  then em gave along..
and did the same thing...i couldn't resist...i had to give em a
wink....she smiled.  the one thing i couldn't get over was how down to
earth they are.

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date:         sun, 28 dec 1997 13:21:31 est
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well....lets see.....
it was back in '45 i was workin' a logging camp up the nooksack,
that dark haired on came along one day....it was rainin thicker that snot..
anyhoo, she was setting chokers up thre hill and one snapped,
nearly hit her right in the head. woulda' took it clean off.
she swore off loggin' after that.
can't say i blame her.

i got her to sign my huskyvarna before she left.
but it wore off in about a week.

:)
pine tar pete

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date:         sun, 28 dec 1997 14:53:25 est
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greetings all. hope you had a happy holiday.

there are two ig heavy stories on the addicted to noise site. one is a lilith
review and the other is a short interview with the girls talking about plans
for their upcoming album...(in the studio this fall. spring 99 release
planned.)

i wrote them both. while this might seem like shameless self promotion, it's
not. i get paid whether or not anyone reads them. however, the more hits the
items get, the more interested in ig news addicted to noise will be. they're
pretty open to it and have run a bunch of stuff of late. but continued
interested from fandom will keep the ig on their web page.

the address in www.addict.com. it's free. if you do a search on indigo girls
you will find the stories. there's a great quote from amy about how her and
emily support each other's musical moods.

enjoy.

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date:         sun, 28 dec 1997 13:05:26 -0500
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last night i called the readi station and asked them to play "anything by
the indigo girls besides "shame on you", "galileo", or "closer to fine."
the guy asked me what i would like to hear.  i said "how about
watershed?"  anyway, after i said that, i guess he figured that i actually
knew what i was talking about and we had a little conversation about the
girls.  sadly, watershed never got played (i didn't expcet it to), but at
least he knew what song i was talking about.

by the way, i asked why lately they only play "shame on you".  he said
that is the song on their playlist.  i guess it's all good, i mean those
annoying people who love the ig's because and only (key word there, only)
because of "shame on you" would hop on the bandwagon even more...

:-) karen

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"if we ever leave a legacy it's that we loved each other well."
        --indigo girls (emily)

"got to learn to respect what we don't understand."
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east asian studies                                      political science
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date:         sun, 28 dec 1997 14:36:14 -0500
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subject:      my cool story!

have i told this to everybody before?  hmm . . . i know some of you have
heard it (hey bethany, it's time for me to relive the droolworthy moment
again!!), but oh well.  i think it's worth repeating.

honor the earth tour, last september in dc.  after their set they hopped
off stage and started going around and collecting those action card
thingies.  well, i of course had to hand mine to amy, though jerry passed
me and i said hi on his way up and my way down the steps.  so there i was
standing right in front of amy.  she was not at the time moving on, so
when i was right there i said hi and gushed the normal kind of you rock
junk, but then . . . here was my prized moment -- she told me that she
liked my earrings!!! (they are little tiny hoops with seed beads in a
rainbow pattern on em)  i was like "thanks!!" (mind you i'll bet i was
drooling or something) . . . god, of course i couldn't have said anything
profound at that moment, noooooooo.  that would have been too cool.
yeah, so she liked my earrings and i liked her new tattoo, though i
refrained from mentioning that.  that chica next to me was like "do you
ever show all of that tattoo to anyone?" and amy gave a big grin and said
"not you!".  i nearly peed myself (yeah bethany, i think i didn't tell
you that part, but i should of . . . )!! :)  ok, so that was my minute
and a half with amy, and it was the coolest thing in the world.  my next
goal is to sing on stage (ii'm very jealous of tigger!!!!!!!!!!) . . .
maybe next show! :)

love,
carolyn

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magic keeps the dream alive to try and try again
magic is the love that stays when good friends have to leave
i do believe in magic, i believe

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date:         sun, 28 dec 1997 17:41:08 -0500
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where is the girls stuff on ehre i looked and iddnt fine anyting but when
i did a search it came up with a list of web pages what section is the
interview about their new cd in?

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date:         sun, 28 dec 1997 18:07:11 -0400
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hello-
i was just playing with that game you don't know jack (vol.3) in the
category "fun with body paint" as a jack attack :) and one of the little
answers flying by was the name of our beloved girls...  my family didn't
understand my excitement so i thought i'd share with you all.  i assume
that this means that, although they weren't an answer at the time, sometime
they will be an answer.  they were the only band given as an answer...

-anne

i guess they have a bigger part in pop culture than i figured

and i'm sorry for wasting anyone's time and/or bandwidth.

off to play some more...

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date:         sun, 28 dec 1997 20:38:14 est
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ok so i wanna tell my story...

it kinda starts at american university on april 20.  i am organizing a benefit
show for the sexual minority youth assitance league for school, (ps list
people in dc area please come....please... i will post more info at a later
date) and i really wanted indigo girls to play and i harassed russell carter
for months...(he kept denying me) so i wrote the girls a note and handed it to
amy during the au show.  a few weeks later i came home and my parents were
like "do you know someone named amy ray ??" i was like yeah right
whatever...they were like "we are serious..." (knowing of my obsession) so
after three or four times telling them to stop messing with me i was not in
the mood, my dad throws this postcard to me and it was from amy, handwritten
and all telling me of her support for my project and even though she
guarantees nothing she will put a request in to play my show on the high
school tour etc, but even if it doesnt work its cool...blah blah blah... i was
so excited, amy ray sent me a postcard...

so the next week they were at wolftrap.  my friend anya, whom i frequently
mention who lurks on the list, her mom is a professor at au, and her former
students work in and around the dc arts stuff.  so this guy daryl worked at
wolftrap said that  he would try to leave backstage passes for us the second
night, but he could not guarantee anything.   so we went after the show, not
expecting anything, and they were like we dont give backstage passes, but then
we said his name and they were like, "oh friends of daryl's, come on back"  so
we brought our teacher too.

after waiting for about half an hour we saw sonia from disappear fear and her
mom, (she played with them that night), and josh, amy finally came out. some
of her family and friends were there so we just listened for a while (i of
course had this big shit eating grin on my fcae the whole time) then she came
over to us, and i told her who i was and she said yeah yeah i remember
(ohmygawdamyremeberedme!!!!) so then she pointed me to russell carter bout my
project. we talked. outcome not good. but then he went away, and when he came
back amy said, "make sure you talk to sasha before you leave please..." he was
like i did...anyways.  amy and i talked a little more, we took pictures.  then
em came out, she was all types of tired, so there wasnt much talk, but we told
her how we were running away to philly  the next day after school to see them
at the mann.  she said to make sure we didnt get in trouble, and thanked us
for coming....etc.  we also gave her and amy a note from people outside who's
friend was supposed to come but she had a seizure that day in school and
couldnt go. so they each wrote her nice notes, more than just their names and
stuff.  they were so damn cool and friendly. put their arms around us and
stuff, nicer than i ever expected them to be....so it was one of the best
nights of my life.  indigo girls rock my world....

if you got this far thanks for reading, sorry it got so long, i got a little
carried away...
peace
sasha

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date:         sun, 28 dec 1997 21:49:42 est
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went to austin and saw the girls with my b/f (back when i was stupid and
thought being with a decent boy wouldn't be too horrible)...my b/f was the
type of  guy who acted like he belonged wherever it happened to be and always
managed to get backstage whenever he wanted to and with whomever he wanted
to..so he acted like he belonged backstage and got me back there too..so i met
them and stayed back there for a while (maybe 30 minutes) with my b/f asking
them about their guitar playing and influences and stuff like that and me
there speechless (with my oh my gawd i"m backstage with the indigo girls look
on my face)...then they had to go and get their stuff together and we stayed
backstage cuz the boy was talking to the all the guitar techs and sound people
and anybody really who would listen and then they came out and said bye and i
got to die all over again  :)

then of course there was the no nukes in dc when i did something shameless and
passed up a&e to give my card to sara and get my pic with her...sorry just had
to...

then there was the time...nope just kidding

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date:         sun, 28 dec 1997 21:55:51 est
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i got up and out of the house early this morning so i could be first in line
for tickets at the warfield...only no one else was in line!  i did manage to
get 4th row center so i can't complain but i was wondering how come no one
else was getting tickets after all the talk about bay area concerts.

oh well, hope to se some of you there.

mac

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