lifeblood: listlogs: 1998-01c


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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 17:31:39 -0500
reply-to:     christy lynch <cml@mindspring.com>
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don't kill me if someone has already mentioned this. (sorry in advance).
but wouldn't it just sound amazing if the ig covered this song?

christy :)

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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 16:47:39 -0500
reply-to:     christy lynch <cml@mindspring.com>
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i saw a truck from tennessee that had almost the same letters on it at the
new year's eve michelle malone concert in atlanta (decatur). :) very cool.

at 01:36 pm 1/13/98 est, you wrote:
>i saw that car with md tags that said indgogrl...
>
>also saw a va tag that said something along those lines too at a catie curtis
>show...
>
>go figure...
>
>
>heather
>who is wondering why she is living in va where everybody has personalized
>plates and she hasn't gotten around to getting some too...
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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 15:29:32 -0600
reply-to:     avital <avital@cs.wisc.edu>
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from:         avital <avital@cs.wisc.edu>
subject:      november madison, wi show

i'm well aware that this has been asked before but i'm getting desperate...
has *anyone* found a boot of the november 20th show at the oscar mayer
theatre in madison??  it was my brother's birthday (remember they said
happy birthday to him) and i'd love to give him an extra present of a
copy of the boot (while sneaking a copy in for myself).
if anyone out there has it and can help me out, i'd be ever so appreciative.
i've got loads of pictures and boots to share!
thanks in advance...
  avital

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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 16:34:11 -0500
reply-to:     christy lynch <cml@mindspring.com>
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you know, one of my first impressions of the indigo girls was from
watershed. i was always under the impression that amy was shy. she didn't
even talk for the first half of the interview. :)

at 08:59 pm 1/12/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>i find it hard to believe that amy is shy around women, but that's just me.
>
>on first look i would have agreed with you. but after watching
>"watershed" a few million times i can totally see this cute little
>sweet shy girl who gets embarassed when she gets around a "lady"
>she's attracted to. even the most outgoing people will surprise you
>when it becomes a one-on-one attraction situation.
>
>fwiw!
>cathy
>
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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 17:30:15 -0500
reply-to:     christy lynch <cml@mindspring.com>
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subject:      re: amy&emily / simon&garfunkel
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doesn't the drum part in cecelia remind you of the drum part in least
complicated? :)

at 01:55 am 1/14/98 est, you wrote:
>i agree about ig and s&g......i would love to hear them cover "cecelia".....
>
>-ab
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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 19:10:20 est
reply-to:     terrilee11 <terrilee11@aol.com>
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re: << not to be the world's biggest bitch or anything, but this
dream seems kind of inappropriate  >>

relax, it's just a dream she had. a sweet, lovely, (funny) and harmless dream.

re:<< gems of em->>
kind friends, you are reading my mind- i was just thinking yesterday, as i
drove along happily listening to ig in my car, that since emily has some
wonderfully moving moments in songs we should highlight them too, and she's
looking might fine on the cover of curve i might add.
anyway- we know how awesome amy sounds in down by the river, but what about
when emily takes the last note of the 2nd chorus up real high- '...sends me
away aay-aayyy!'
yes, she definitely does!

finally, does anyone here have a list of all the web sites maintained by
fellow listees? i'm afraid i might be missing some. i just went to see lynda's
new year's eve pics and they were fun. i have to warn those of you who haven't
seen it yet that her site includes perhaps the most unflattering pic of amy
ever. i didn't think amy could take such a- well, see for yourself. reminds me
of the episode of home improvement where tim mistakenly takes jill's worst
photo ever and blows it up huge for some party in her honor. oh, the
embarassment. what in goddess's name is amy doing in that picture where her
mouth is wide open? do we want to know????? just wondering- peace and all
things indigo~leah

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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 19:07:21 -0500
reply-to:     lori and gavin macleod <macleods@spectranet.ca>
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subject:      simon and garfunkle
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>
>i always think of ig as being like a modern day, deeper version of simon &
>garfunkel. i could imagine amy & emily doing a cover of almost any of their
>songs.
>well, except hazy shade of winter:)
>

really?  if you know the bangle's version (on the less than zero movie
soundtrack) i can totally imagine the girls doing it!
lori

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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 18:04:02 -0800
reply-to:     doolittle <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>
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subject:      nigc - maxell tapes
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        maxell xl-ii 90 min. tapes are on sale at k-mart through jan. 17th,
5 tapes for $6.99  (that's $1.40 each -- pretty reasonable for those tapes :)

tony

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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 23:46:21 est
reply-to:     carol & sarah <chickenwomyn@hotmail.com>
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from:         carol & sarah <chickenwomyn@hotmail.com>
subject:      em's gems
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just sitting here doing my homework listenin' to music.  i realized i
think em sounds sooooo cute on the new mongrels cd.  everything is
excitingly cute!!!  i also love when em growls (sorta)in reunion ("we
act empty & innocent but we are fueled by distortion of lives led in
discontent tradin misfortunes cause faith is one thing that is hard mto
deliver it feels funny bein free").  yeah, that really high part & the
growl are exilerating.
ok, now..zoology, then womens studies journal.  due tomorrow...i'll get
right on it

love,
  carol

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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 20:30:55 -0600
reply-to:     kc1 <casey@rea-alp.com>
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subject:      nigc - floating men
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hey i have a question for all you listers who live in georgia or
nashville....i'm trying to find out if "the floating men" are still
together. or maybe if their lead singer jeff holmes is recording by
himself...i know they are from georgia, but were working out of nashville!
if you know about these guys, please mail me privately!
sorry about the nigc!

kc1

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              this world was meant for me.  don't bury me. carry me.

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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 00:49:04 est
reply-to:     iu doremi <iudoremi@aol.com>
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subject:      nigc!!!- attn. nick@iu
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sorry for the waste of bandwidth but nick, i didn't remember your last name to
e-mail you at school.  your tape is done and i'd like to get it to you but
don't know your last name.  e-mail me please so you can get your tape :)
carrie

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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 00:11:40 +0000
reply-to:     karrie <karrie@ncinter.net>
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subject:      nigc-ann arborites and willie porter
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the chickenwomyn wrote:
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> subject: re: ann arborites unite!!!
> date: wed, 14 jan 1998 17:08:33 est
> from: carol & sarah <chickenwomyn@hotmail.com>
>
> well, there is an aa folk festival on jan 31.  i have a flyer that
> mentions it, but it does not mention ani.  it does mention paula cole,
> guy clark, chris smither, cherly wheeler, karen pernick, doc watson &
> david grisman, the nields (evryone seemes to have been talkin' bout them
> recently), dee carstensen, great big sea, and willy porter.  it does say
> in itty bitty type, near the bottom  "program subject to change."  i"ll
> be kickin' myself if ani goes, and i'm not there (nor do i have the
> $$$$).
>
> there's my input.
>
> love,
>   carol
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everyone in michigan...do yourself the hugest favor in america.....

if you do nothing else, *go see willie porter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!****


he rocks.

i saw him with tori amos on her last tour three times in one week, and
he was so damn incredible.

go see him, buy his album, worship the ground he walks on.
he rocks.

ok....i've raved willie enough.....

peace-
karrie

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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 17:20:25 -0500
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okay gang!

what about how amy dances around at the beginning of crazy game?
(i love that...)
and then em singing "dryyyyyy your eyyyyes!" (in the uptown video you
see amy wince when em reaches up to that note!).

just sharin',
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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 23:58:00 est
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okay i hate to have to e-mail everybody for this, but i am not getting anymore
e-mails from the list.  what do i do?  i am having problems with my omputer, i
am wondering if it is that or something else.  please excuse me for doing
this.  thanks.  please if you can help me please e-mail me privately.  thanks
again.  i would go crazy without the amount of e-mail i get daily from this
list, i am addicted to it.  also, i am a dedicated fan of the indigo girls and
it would devastate me not to get my daily ig fix.  thanks.

jillian :-)

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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 17:07:07 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks, just another real quick one:

1) the list was down, but it's back again.  i think it was a
general netspace problem, not a server problem.  anyway.

2) please, folks, don't quote other peoples' entire messages
when replying to the list!  it's highly annoying for digest
folks.

3) and, please turn off long sigs when posting to the list.
again, it's annoying for digest folks.

back to work - thanks folks,
sherlyn
ps - tickets for dar williams/ani difranco and dan bern at
the metro in sydney on march 11 go onsale from the venue
tomorrow, in case there's anyone i neglected to tell
already... :)
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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 18:24:54 -0500
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hey!

just had to say run! do not walk!  if you have the chance to go and
see cheryl wheeler!  i caught her perform here in columbus as part
of the six string concert series and she was incredible.  the talent
itself is amazing... but, with her between song banter & descriptions
of what the songs are about, it makes even her songs you already
loved... that much more special.

if you haven't heard any of her stuff... i highly suggest "driving home"
or "half a book" to get you started.  and, if ever she retires her
"lawn-mowing shoes", you can bet she'll write a song about it!

later,
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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 20:23:41 -0500
reply-to:     indigo head <s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu>
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i have not gotten any list mail all day.  is something wrong, or is the
list just very slow?  can someone please e-mail me privately?  thanks!
:-) karen

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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 15:02:50 +1100
reply-to:     pdodd@lisp.com.au
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mexico city: a police commander has been charged with
assembling the weapons stockpile used in the massacre of 45
indian peasants in the southern state of chiapas last month,
as well as ordering the use of police trucks to collect the
arms.
federal prosecutors allege that felipe vasquez espinoza,
commander of the state police in los chorros, a village near
the site of the massacre, acteal, ordered his officers to
use police vehicles to collect ak-47 automatic assault
rifles and other weapons from surrounding villages.
in continuing fallout from the massacre on december 22,
state police opened fire on a crowd of rock-throwing
demonstrators in the town of ocosingo, east of acteal.  one
woman was killed and two other people were injured,
including the dead woman's three year old daughter.
the governor of chiapas has called army troops to arrest all
29 members of the police unit that opened fire on monday's
protest.
the shootings, which were filmed by a mexican tv network,
occured as villagers protesting against the earlier massacre
pelted a truckload of police with rocks.  police fired into
the air and tried to escape, but as the barrage of stones
continued, they turned their guns toward the crowd.
the woman killed was standing in bushes to one side, holding
her chil accross her chest, and was not throwing rocks.  a
bullet struck her in the heart, doctors said.
the charges against vasquez allege he told his officers to
allow villagers assiciated with the ruling institutional
revolutionary party to carry illegal weapons.
vasquez allegedly told prosecutors he was acting on the
orders of higher-ranking state authorities.  he is the
latest in a widening web of officials to be implicated in
the murders of the unarmed indian peasants, most of them
women and children.


this is from the sydney morning herald quoting the
washington post as its source.


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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 19:31:42 -0500
reply-to:     amy cason <stu6361@westga.edu>
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from:         amy cason <stu6361@westga.edu>
subject:      re: uh..............
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on wed, 14 jan 1998, karrie wrote:

> involves making out, heavy petting, or any other sexual encounter, imho,
> should be kept private or shared through private mail only.....i just
> think that if amy and emily do read the list (and i am sure they do)
> they would probably find this dream a little unnerving.....

i doubt amy and emily read this list themselves...i'm sure they are far
too busy.  i wouldn't doubt it that they have friends who are aware of
this list though...

amy

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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 16:33:24 est
reply-to:     kristin <nihillkj@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu>
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from:         kristin <nihillkj@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu>

to whom it may concern:

      my name is kristin nihill and i would like to unsubscribe to this
listserve but i cannot recall how to do it exactly so if you could unsubscribe
me i would really appreciate it.  thank you.

                              sincerely,

                                        kristin nihill

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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 16:24:35 est
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that is a great idea!!!  hopefully, the girls will be playing the folkfest
this summer!!!!  does anyone know for sure?

betsy

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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 01:38:34 -0500
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hi y'all!
okay, i am slowly driving myself insane.  first of all, i am, very happy
that the list is up again!  but that is not why i am driving myself
insane.  i have a question:

i have been on for about a year, and i honestly can't recall a discussion
about this...

at the end of "least complicated", there is some spoken word.  what are
they saying???????????????????  does anyone know????  i have listened to
that song like 20 times today trying to figure it out, and i can't!!!!

ugggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg!

and now for good nigc news.  is anyone by chance a member of amnesty
international?  i am wondering because i just booked my ticket to the
national confrence in san francisco in march (!!!!!!!!!!) and i was
wondering if anyone else would be there...

okay, that's all for now!

:-) karen

ps - i tried to turn my sig off, and it does not appear on the screen now,
but sometimes it does weird things, so if it gets posted, i am sorry!

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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 01:49:05 -0400
reply-to:     jillian.certo@oberlin.edu
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subject:      i had *another* dream....
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> karrie@ncinter.net writes:
>  dream seems kind of inappropriate to me.
>  but posting one that
>  involves making out, heavy petting, or any other sexual encounter, imho,
>  should be kept private or shared through private mail only.....i just
>  think that if amy and emily do read the list (and i am sure they do)
>  they would probably find this dream a little unnerving.....

uhm, anyways.... uh, yeah, so i had this goofy dream and thought i'd tell
you folks about it.  okay, here goes:  i dreamt i belonged to a listserv
of *nice* people with senses of humor.  uh, but then i woke up.
i do not consider sweetly kissing emily saliers in a dream to be heavy
sexual content.  it was very wonderful and wholesome and honest and good
and pure and rather chaste.  plus woody allen was there.  i mean, come on.
how heavy could it get with that guy hanging around?  ha. :p
jill
p.s. this has been discussed before, but the girls apparently do *not*
read this list.  i'm aware that some of their friends or whatnot do, but
they have stated that they don't.
p.p.s. the aforemade implication that *y'all* are *not* nice is not what i
was tryin' to say here.  i was talking to the firestarters.  not the
wunnerful ones like my addict twink and carol ann (!).  :)

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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 22:57:01 -0800
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after a particularly nasty day at work i arrived home to a little notice
thingy that informed me of a parcel waiting at the post office. i zoomed
down there and yippee it's my daemon order. wow is the jcs video ever
the best $15 us ($257.89 + pst & gst canadian - well not quite but
close) i have spent since the last ig related product i bought. amy and
emily do a fantastic job as do michael lorant and gerard mchugh. does
anyone know if benjamin who plays caiaphas, high priest in jcs is the
same benjamin credited for words, friend in hkf on sots?

also got my oh so cool daemon records t-shirt with feral written across
the back. just in time for the seattle shows (mere days away now yippee)
and here i was wondering what to wear. yeah right.

does anyone know of a cd store in seattle (or vancouver even better)
where i might find 4.5?

thanks,
helen

insert snappy saying / meaningful lyric here.

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reply-to:     nemster <chai@pacbell.net>
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hey everyone,

i know i don't post alot (that's cuz i'm probably hiding for the most part!), but here i am and i'm just wondering if there's anyone here on the list that has the music to leeds? preferbably piano music sheets cuz i want to learn it on piano!! okay..i'm done babbling..hehehe

email me privately if you do.


nem :)

<paraindent><param>left,left</param>

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"meanwhile our friends we thought were so together

they've all gone and left each other in search of fairer weather

and we sit here in our storm and drink a toast

to the slim chance of love's recovery"

</paraindent><paraindent><param>left,left,left,left,left</param>emily
saliers - love's recovery

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>
> subject: i wear my sunglasses at night...
> date: tue, 13 jan 1998 22:47:45 -0400
> from: jillian.certo@oberlin.edu
>
> ...so i can, so i can/ look into the dazzling beauty that/ haunts me in my
> dreams....
> just had to write to y'all to share that i had this amazing dream last
> night... no, wait, it was this morning, at 8:45 a.m. or so, actually ;),
> this dream wherein i was kissing emily.  at first i kept thinking, "oh,
> great, *there* goes my chance with amy!," but that was rude to em, so i
> actually (this is hard to believe, yes, but i swear...) *forgot* about the
> divine miss ray and just really got into it with em.  hee!  woody allen
> was also floating around said dream, like, he was trying to convince all
> of us to be in this new movie he wanted to direct *right* then and there,
> and i was all, "yo, woody, if this flick turns out *anything* like
> "everyone says i love you", you're in for it...." and he was all, "ah, oh,
> uh, ah, eh, uh, oh, ah, well, uh, i, uh, don't think, ah, it will, er, be,
> ah, *exactly* like, uh, that..." and so on (y'all know how woody stammers)
> and so he just started filming me and em in our embrace, as amy stood by
> and kinda observed, shielding us from the little neurotic guy's camera.
>
> uh, yeah.  i *told* you i was a crack rock.  believe me now?
> jill
>
> p.s. (and i'm only telling you this 'cause i've got the inside -pun not
> intended, i swear- scoop):  emily is an amazing kisser ;) and she smells
> so good too...  oh oh and her skin is *so* soft.  and and... oh, never
> mind. but tigger, i think we've been pining for the wrong girl.
>
>

i am sorry, not to be the world's biggest bitch or anything, but this
dream seems kind of inappropriate to me.  granted, we are all entitled
to our ig dreams, and they may vary in nature, but posting one that
involves making out, heavy petting, or any other sexual encounter, imho,
should be kept private or shared through private mail only.....i just
think that if amy and emily do read the list (and i am sure they do)
they would probably find this dream a little unnerving.....

flame if you must....

karrie

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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 10:00:12 +0000
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subject:      chiapas tab

hey y'all!

someone asked about this. i didn't figure it out myself, carolyn did:
(you can also find it on my ig tabs web pages;-))

date:    thu, 24 apr 1997 16:08:25 -0700
from:    carolyn chow <egg@u.washington.edu>
subject: re: chiapas chords (fwd)

the chords of chiapas bound the way i've seen amy play them are

g, d,  c

the 'solo' bridge part is

em, bm, then 004433, bm, c, em, d/f (200230)

she plays the transition from bm, to that weird chord, back to bm by
simply moving her index down to the fret from the bm bar chord.

make sense?  i swear.  these are the exact chords the way she plays
them.

good luck.


chiapas bound   ("a love song")   amy ray
g                    d         c
all the girls with anorexia are on the street tonight
g                     d                 c
and the boys in the band think they look just fine
and i dont even know why i drove this car down congress avenue
hoping to find you turning on the light

well you seem like a girl with the world on your side
but its just a point of view
and i know how quickly that could change too
see i heard you were free or someone thinks you should be
and i know just how that feels
i thought maybe we could just talk for a while

solo/bridge part.


(i've never heard this new verse, so i'm not sure if they're the
normal chords or different ones.)

cuz baby i got something to stand for
i got somewhere we could go home
i just need someone to stand with
see it aint no good this feeling alone

when you said that you'd go down to mexico
well i think that i might go there too
but its probably too late to find someone like you
yeah it sounds really cool to be without a care in some southern town
but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound

yeah it sounds really cool to be without a care in some southern town
but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound

------------------------------

peace and
take care,
kathrin

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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 11:01:30 -0500
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okey dokey pokeys...i received a request from the infamous mountain stage
boot woman - miss carrie hamblen...uh huh, that's right.
she said that some of y'all are confused as to what really went on during
that show...while i'm thinkin' about it..the date - november 4, 1997 -
place - cultural center - charleston, w.v. mountain stage radio broadcast.
phew...now that i've got that covered.
ummm..let's see - the thing frigged up during "power of two" right?!  yeah
- (pardon my incoherent thinking...b.g. is freakin' cold and my brain is
frozen.) - it was very cute cuz when they started playing "power of two"
emily was singing along and sounding really groovy (as usual.)..when it
came time for amy to join in with that harmony we all know and love,
emily's microphone just quit...i believe it had somethin' to do with the
amplifier that was facing the audience...she was completely
oblivious...had no idea that we couldn't hear her.  we just let it go
though, cuz man...i think that's the one and only time we'd ever get to
hear amy sing harmony by herself.. :)  but we kinda' motioned (from our
seats that were ummm...5 feet from them :) that we couldn't hear emily and
they just stopped....when you hear amy say "have you been off this whole
time? (or whatever she said)"...it actually went into a 15-20 minute goof
off period....we talked about tap dancing...joke making....(amy being my
honey...just kidding...so kill me...you know you're all thinkin' it
anyway.)all o' that fun stuff...they were very cute...it's the first time
i've ever heard them talk so much... :)  but they got everything fixed
after emily cursed a bit :) and they went on their merry way.  actually
"everything in it's own time" screwed up to, but you couldn't tell, could
ya'!?? they started that one over... :)
it was damned fun - really it was....and the radio announcer man was funny
- he was so into his "mountain stage band" tunes he had us laughing like
madwomen...he had amy laughin' too...she resorted to covering her cutie
pie face with her mandolin...that was when they first came out....
anyhoo - i know you're all growing tired of my ramblings....i'll let you
off the hook for now... :)
hope to resubscribe soon...damn! give me my computer! :(

-bethany :)
(yeah - and don't believe anything that "sweets" says about me.)

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well, i'm back!  i know, y'all missed me so much, you forgot i was even gone
(wait, there was logic in there somewhere when i said it in my head - oh
well).  i've been back since sunday evening, but i've been busy unpacking,
going to classes, buying books, etc.  i attempted to read all the archives
from when i was gone to catch up on what y'all have been talking about, but
it just can't be done.  you're too prolific.
when i was finally allowed to drive again (after my surgery, which went very
well - thank you for all your good vibes and well wishes), i high-tailed it
to borders to find that issue of curve that i've been looking for since
thanksgiving.  thank god(dess) it was there.  what a beautiful cover!  i
also picked up the newest issue of ms. magazine, since i have heard so much
about it, but never read it before.  i don't know if this has been discussed
already (see earlier unability to read all the archives), but ig along with
winona laduke are honored as three of the list of women of the year (or
something along those lines - the mag is all the way across the room and i
don't feel like getting up to get it) for their honor the earth activism.
it's a good article - if you haven't read it, i recommend getting yourself a
copy of this awesome women's magazine that i can't believe i've never read
before.  funny story:  as i was checking out with my two lesbian magazines
(curve and diva, and english mag that i don't highly recommend) and my copy
of ms., the male cashier asked me if the issue of curve was the last one.  i
said no ('cuz it wasn't, duh!), and he was glad because he loves ig and even
took the time to get out a piece of paper to write down the magazine name
and issue so he could go over later to pick it up.  it was right after he
then said something like, "indigo girls are so awesome, don't you love
them?" that he realized he was holding in his hands two lesbian and one
feminist magazine.  hmm...he wondered, maybe she doesn't even like the
indigo girls and is just buying them for the magazines themselves.  don't
worry, i reassured the poor boy that i do indeed love ig.  i just think it's
the cutest thing that he's going to rush right over at the end of his shift
to pick up a lesbian magazine just for the article.  such devotion!  wait
until he gets to the end where they say the article is continued.  now he'll
have to buy two separate issues of this lesbian mag.  i hope his significant
other/mother/roommate/whatever doesn't get worried.
anyhoo, there's not much more to tell.  hope everyone is having a good year
so far and that you all behaved in my absence.  oh, one more thing, i
specifically taped ellen last week because ig were going to be on and my
friend made me go over and watch "the abyss."  what a let down!  i was
expecting at least a speaking part of some sort.  oh well - it was still a
good episode.  i can't complain too much - at least they were on for a
little while.  sorry if you've all discussed this to death already (which i
have the feeling you have) - i'll catch up soon.
okay, i'm done now.  remember to pick up a copy of ms. if you haven't
already.

elizabeth

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i got somewhere we could go home
i just need someone to stand with
see it ain't no good this feeling alone"
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date:         wed, 14 jan 1998 19:44:17 -0500
reply-to:     rhonda j buckman <rjbuck@juno.com>
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from:         rhonda j buckman <rjbuck@juno.com>
subject:      i'm new...hello ig lovers!

hi!  i am so excited to finally be able to talk to people about one of my
biggest passions.  i have been lovin the ig's sinse my first year of
collage in 1991.  i won't bore you with the specifics....

as for a & e and their sexy voices....i would have to say "hey jesus" for
e and definately "don't give that girl a gun" for a.

i have not, as of yet, done any bootleg collecting...but i would like
this fact to change.  i would love  to hear from anyone who would be
willing to help me out with this venture.

anyway...i will keep it short for the sake of saving your snores...but
keep up the great dialogue on the "girls"!

remember: "we are the fortunate ones..fortunate ones...i swear."

                        rhonda

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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 07:50:36 pst
reply-to:     toye gillman <tgillman@ruralcom.net>
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hi.  sorry for the nigc, but i haven't received any mail from the list in about four days.  i am receiving other mail, so i assume there is some sort of problem there.  could you check for me and let me know if i need to subscribe again or what i should do, please.  thanx.

toye

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jillian.certo@oberlin.edu wrote:
>


> uhm, anyways.... uh, yeah, so i had this goofy dream and thought i'd tell
> you folks about it.  okay, here goes:  i dreamt i belonged to a listserv
> of *nice* people with senses of humor.


my sense of humor is definitely present at all times.  however, i find a
dream that is about a listee making out with emily saliers while woody
allen tries to film it and amy stands by and tries to keep him from
doing so, to be just a little over the edge and beyond funny.

i myself have had ig dreams, as have many other listees.  never have any
of the ones i have seen posted been sexual in nature.  they have been
about incredible concerts, or going to the clubs, or shopping, or other
things like that.


uh, but then i woke up.
> i do not consider sweetly kissing emily saliers in a dream to be heavy
> sexual content.  it was very wonderful and wholesome and honest and good
> and pure and rather chaste.  plus woody allen was there.  i mean, come on.
> how heavy could it get with that guy hanging around?  ha. :p


heavy or not, it is a little unnerving for other listers to read.  i
guess if i ever have a dream where i am making out with someone who is
famous, i should just post it to the list.  dream it all you want, but
unless you think it is something that amy and emily wuld want to read or
hear, keep it between friends.


> jill
> p.s. this has been discussed before, but the girls apparently do *not*
> read this list.  i'm aware that some of their friends or whatnot do, but
> they have stated that they don't.


maybe, but i sure wouldn't want one of my friends who does read the list
telling me that "those people on the ig list are posting about making
out with you guys."  for more information, see the faq.  amy and emily
are undecided about this list to begin with, because of the privacy
issue, and to have them think we are over here discussing them kissing
one of us probably doesn't put the list in a positive light.  this list
isn;'t designed for people to rave how hot they think the  girls are, or
how they dreamed they kissed one, or how they went on a date with
another, this list, first and foremost, is to discuss their music, how
it has affected our lives on a personal level( ie. going through a hard
time, coming out, death and divorce, working for the common good, and
yes, even an overload and a funny and witty dream here or there), and to
get information about their upcoming music and politics.


> p.p.s. the aforemade implication that *y'all* are *not* nice is not what i
> was tryin' to say here.  i was talking to the firestarters.  not the
> wunnerful ones like my addict twink and carol ann (!).  :)


no one is starting a fire.  all i am asking for is that people think
before they post.


karrie

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regarding the "dream issue"

>relax, it's just a dream she had. a sweet, lovely, (funny) and
>harmless dream.

while i agree that dreams are wonderful, and harmless, i am putting on
my asbestos suit and saying that i, personally, have more than
enough listmail to read without people posting the content of their
erotic dreams.  i like erotica as much as the rest of you (probably
more than a lot of you, in fact) but this list is not where i go to
find it.  so in my opinion we owe it to a & e, as human beings, to
show a little respect and self-restraint.  i believe a more appropriate
place for these dream narratives is in the annals of private email
between consenting adults who've expressed some interest in reading the
intimate details of others' nocturnally active minds.
ok, flame if you must.  just my opinion...

peace-nic


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any news on that "info only" list yet??

gosh..i loved xmas vacation.....

how long till spring break..??

shuddup flamer

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i'm sort of new here and have heard so much about "curve", what is it?
please excuse my ignorance :)

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hey, more ig cover ideas !!

     dream
     dreams
     dreaming
     dream lover
     dream a little dream
     daydream believer
     mr. sandman
     etc...

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hey y'all!

great news for those of you lucky enough to be on the west coast in late
jan. - ig are playing several dates out there!! oh, wait - y'all already
knew that ;-)

well, here's something you don't know:

danielle howle & tantrums are opening those dates --- yee-haaaaaw!

taken from their website: http://members.aol.com/sctantrums/calendar.htm

tour dates opening for indigo girls:

1/23 seattle, wa @ paramount
1/24 portland, or @ theater of the clouds
1/27 san francisco, ca @ warfield
1/28 sacremento, ca @ memorial auditorium
1/29 santa barbara, ca @ arlington theater
1/30 los angeles, ca @ universal ampitheater
2/1 san diego, ca @ rimac arena
2/3 las vegas, nv @ the joint
2/4 phoenix, az @ union hall

they are working their butts off, booking club gigs and trying to make
it as musicians, so wahoo!! for them, they are opening some more ig
dates - all y'all out there going to the shows - please: get there early
and don't miss 'em - you won't regret it! and ask 'em to play camaro
power - wheeee!

and if you like what you hear, please tell 'em - every musician needs
encouragement. they are all very nice (they don't even bite no more!)
they almost always have a merchandise table set up (cool t-shirts, too!)
and they are happy*happy*happy to sign your purchases, so if you want
more of what you hear, buy the album!! they'll have 'em at the shows, or
you an order through daemon, or ask your local record shoppe (!) to
order it for you - it can be done!

and if you already have do a two sable (what good taste you have!) there
are several other danielle albums out there, most notably, about to
burst, which includes some tantrums work on it, and live at mckissick
(danielle solo acoustic).

for those of you not on the west coast (or flying out there!)
other dates w/ danielle and/or some or all of her tantrums:

opening for whiskeytown:
(venues tba, danielle and john playing acoustic)

2/18 boise, id
2/19 salt lake city, ut

performing at the nea extravaganza showcase:

2/20 nashville, tn, daemon records showcase, venue tba (probably douglas
corners, same place as last year)

band touring with whiskeytown, venues tba:

2/24 columbia, mo
2/25 champaign, il
2/26 louisville, ky
2/27 knoxville, tn
2/28 nashville, tn
or
2/28 atlanta, ga @ cotton club opening for dayroom

playing the sxsw (south by southwest) showcase:

3/20 austin, tx @ the library

3/26 columbia, sc @ mckissick museum (danielle acoustic)
mar 27-30 tent simple machines fest in dc

stay tuned for venue updates as well as more dates, including a march
tour with block.

whew - okay, putting away dh&t megaphone for now :-)


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for the person asking about benjamin in jcs @ sxsw - yes, it's the same
benjamin as heard on hkf - his band is called smoke (recently opened for
patti smith in atlanta - super-double-yum) and their two albums are
avail. through daemon.

what ar has said about smoke:
"hobos of truth - the soul speaks. a combination of cello, banjo,
cornet, guitar, eclectic drums and valuable words."

they just are absolutely unique and should not be missed.
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okay - i'm really done now - and i'm so jealous of all y'all west coast
folks - have each and every one of you a super terrific indie music kind
of day!

peace,
nb

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after reading yet another post about horrible things happening in chiapas,
i thought it might be useful to point out that when similar human rights
violations have occurred in the past, the us has retaliated with trade
restrictions.  this option may not be available to us in the next few
years. i'm sure you all know about nafta and gatt - well, there's a new
one called mai - the multilateral agreement on investment - making trade
restrictions a thing of the past.  while conservative economists go on and
on about "boosting" our economy (by sending jobs overseas and further
maximizing the profits of the top five percent) they pass these agreements
right by a gullible public.  remember the trade restrictions that
strangled south africa, to the point that apartheid was doomed?  these
would now be illegal under mai.  if your town decided it didn't want
eastern europe sticking a nuclear waste silo in your backyard - you'd be
restricting trade and destroying our "economic growth", under mai.  and
the newspapers and tv news shows (you know, the ones that say "coming up
on the news tomorrow..." !!!????) aren't covering it at all because
they're owned by multinational corporations that will benefit from this
kind of violation of our basic human right to dissent.
        just thought you might want to know that our rights to speak out
on things like chiapas are currently being sold to the highest bidder.
        later this afternoon, i'll post the results of the political
survey.
mc

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subject:      newport folk festival

hi everyone!
      i met emily and amy this september at bates college and i told them both
that we missed them this year at the folk festival. amy made some comment about
being with all the "crazy women" or something like like...she meant lilith of
course. when i talked to emily i asked her if they were going to try to make it
to the next festival, she said that they were going to try because they really
love playing there, but it wasn't definite.
       a little nigc, if anyone is from the ri area, patricia ireland of the
national organization for women will be speaking at uri on jan. 26. also has
anyone heard of sam shaber? if you have can you email me about her, she could
possibly perform at uri and i want to know if she is any good. thanks!

                     caelin   (hi krista!!!)

"you have to laugh at yourself beacause you would cry your eyes out if you
  didn't!" e.s.

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hey all, quick question...i'm in a long-distance
relationship (i'm in mn she's in ga) and i'm
wondering if anyone has any ideas as to how i can
respond to rude questions and comments....namely "is
it an internet thing?" and "ooh i could never do
that, girl you can do better" and "so, afraid of real
commitment huh?"

i need something kinda biting that'll make em shut-up.

email personally please, and thanks,
amanda

ps we didn't qual to state in debate (we were
screwed!) but thanks to those who sent notes and
energy.  :)

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hey everyone!

> at the end of "least complicated", there is some spoken word.  what
> are they saying???????????????????  does anyone know????  i have
> listened to that song like 20 times today trying to figure it out, and
> i can't!!!!

i'm listening to that part with headphones and volume turned up, not
healthy but you can't really hear it otherwise.
there's a whole little conversation going on; between a and e i
assume.
all i can make out is em saying something like "yeah, that's the way
i can feel it" and a responds something like "... you wanted to ...
it."

whatever that's worth;-)...

peace and
take care,
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i haven't seen this posted yet; i'll save the list of nominees in other
media in case anybody wants to see it, but i figured i'd just go with
the igc:

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sent: 1/14/98 9:18:42 pm
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new york, ny , thursday, january 15, 1998-the gay & lesbian alliance
against defamation (glaad) is proud to announce the nominees of its 9th
annual glaad media awards, which will take place in three ceremonies to
be held in new york city on march 30 at the new york hilton towers, in
washington, dc on april 4 at the george washington marriot and in los
angeles on april 19 at the century plaza hotel.
the glaad media awards were created in 1989 to honor individuals and
projects in the media and entertainment industries for their balanced
and
accurate representations of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender
community and the issues that affect their lives.
glaad is the largest lesbian and gay media advocacy organization in the
nation. glaad promotes fair, accurate and inclusive representations in
the media as a means of challenging discrimination based on sexual
orientation or identity.
for further information and to purchase tickets for the new york
ceremony,
please contact glaad's new york office at 212/807-1700.  for information
for washington, dc contact the dc office at 202/986-1360. and for
information and tickets for los angeles, contact levy pazanti and
associates at 888/655-6529.

general event and ticket information for this year's glaad media awards
can
be found on the world wide web at http://www.glaad.org.

outstanding music:
ani difranco living in clip
erasure cowboy
indigo girls shaming of the sun
janet jackson the velvet rope
white town women in technology

sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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o.k.  whoever wrote me about being a "fellow falcon..."  :)  lost your
address babe - this computer sucks.  it deletes all of my mail - or else i
don't know how to find it yet.  oops.
i'm sure that more than one of you went to bgsu so i should be specific...
this chicky is at wright state now - and she's pretty damned musical.
sorry dude, not remembering your name....my brain is frozen...it's cooold!
o.k.  since i know you're all reading this anyway, i'll just say he-llo...
things are great here - had a dream about emily last night...i told her
how happy i was about being born during the "indigo era."  she signed
something of mine, but her signature said "christine hadge" or something
like that...i was like "what the hell?!  you're emily saliers you crazy
freak!"
anyway - i'm off to sit on my crack and read my "native american themes."
:)  have a wonderful day - keep the list hoppin' :)
hope to be resubscribed soon.

-bethany :)
everybody send get well messages to carrie cheron - dudes...she's sick! :(

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ok so i am sitting here on a surprising day off from school as we got no ice
or sleet or anything, but  i am not complaining.

first i just wanted to randomly mention that on blue food when ig are singing
"i don't know your name (but i wanna be your lover)" at the end in one of the
choruses when amy sings "i don't know your naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
baaaaaaaaaaaabe" and emily replies in such a cute voice "thats ok..." i think
it is so damn cute.  ok i will save my delerium for a more appropriate
place...

ok so my intended purpose... somebody on this list had the bootleg of the
university of delaware boot and he disappeared.  we must find him.  no one
else seems to have it... (come on someone has to have it.....) so i am begging
now (and i know a few others are too) i would be willing to dub it for
everyone else who wants it if anybody could find one copy... ok i am getting
out of control.  or if anybody has any of the summer shows, mainly in july in
august and is interested in trading please lemme know...

ok thats it
peace
sasha
(if anyone watched ellen last night, holly was coming to my house to spend the
night : )  ok maybe not)

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i have a friend with the following tickets for sale:

l.a. show:  sec 16..row p..seats 3 and 4

san diego show:  sec 4..rowp...seats 12 and 13

please make an offer.

elizabeth
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hello...

by chance does anyone out there have an extra ticket to the friday seattle
show?  my seats for portland aren't that great, so i thought mybe i'd drive up
to see the show the night before to make up for it.

thanks, kevin s. minoli

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subject:      for gawd sakes

--- you wrote:
uhm, anyways.... uh, yeah, so i had this goofy dream and thought i'd tell
you folks about it.  okay, here goes:  i dreamt i belonged to a listserv
of *nice* people with senses of humor.
--- end of quote ---
thats funny jillian....i had a dream that the people on this list could take
some well-meant criticism and move on. guess i was wrong too!

ps karrie *is* really nice. i'm sure you're really nice too. it's not about
"being nice", is it? no!
pss don't flame me, i'm not interested
psss i like the indigo girls

sus

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hey kind friends,

first of all, everyone needs to chill out over jill's dream post! :-) it was
cute. a kiss is not 'erotica' - or else a whole bunch of laws need to be
changed! and, no, this list is not limited to technical discussions of ig
music... and please, when you don't like someone's post like that- and it's
not part of our discussions, could you please email them privately?
:-)
now, i wanted to post another em gem, but have been sidetracked into an amy
moment- probably my favorite- i don't think anyone has mentioned it yet- in
rockin in the free world when amy sings 'cool' as in the line, '...never get
to fall in love, never get to be cool'
when i hear it i am reminded of emily's comment that amy just has a natural
ability to belt out rock songs!

back to work~peace and all things indigo~leah

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hey folks,

jill certo said:
>p.s. this has been discussed before, but the girls apparently do *not*
>read this list.  i'm aware that some of their friends or whatnot do, but
>they have stated that they don't.

it's almost certain that amy and emily aren't subscribed to
this list.  but.  they *have* read certain messages from this
list before and from what we heard, they didn't like what
they read all that much.  and yes, it is also almost certain
that there's *someone* official lurking here in some way
shape or form...

with that in mind, i'd like to remind everyone again that a
good guideline for what should or shouldn't be posted to the
list is this:
        don't post it if you wouldn't feel comfortable with
        amy or emily reading it.  because they might, you just
        never know.

on to the igc: this was in this week's "drum media" (a sydney
based weekly free street paper):

"amy ray and emily saliers are the indigo girls, two young
singer/songwriters who teamed up in decatur, georgia, way back
in 1980 but didn't officially become the indigo girls until
1983 (sic), almost immediately winning a huge audience for
their sweet, folk-based harmony pop, and fans the calibre of
rem and hothouse flowers, both of whom were involved in the
recording of the girls' self-titled debut album for a major
label, in 1989.  their latest album, 'shaming of the sun'
(epic), is as good a reason as any to invite them back to
tour australia and so the indigo girls play the state theatre
thursday february 26 (which has sold out) and friday february
27."

that's all for now, talk to you guys later -
sherlyn
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and when you wake up from this night, we'll start a new beginning,
show the earth her due respect, create new laws for living..."
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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 16:48:06 -0500
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subject:      two questions

hi everyone
i have two questions for everyone.

1. is it just me or can you guitar players help me out, are indigo girls
guitar parts extremely complicated or am i just slow?

2. what can you all tell about the song "the water is wide"

thanks everyone,
chrisy

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 09:44:49 aes
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hi all

i'm going to be in america from march - late may, mainly on the east coast.
does anyone know if the girls are doing spring shows on that side of the
country?? i know i'm seeing them in canberra on march 6 but it would be so
cool to see them on their home turf. i'm keeping my fingers crossed. :-)

helen

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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 18:02:31 -0500
reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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at 04:04 pm 1/8/98 -0700, d obray wrote:
>as for
>grammy trivia i believe the girls won for "back on the bus y'all".

it was nominated (as were "hammer and a nail"  and "swamp ophelia"), but i
think the only one they won was for best contemporary folk album for the
eponymous album.

---<>---

at 05:56 pm 1/8/98 -0800, tanya or gregg wrote:
>while we're still sorta on the subject of ptntf, i was wondering if
>anybody ever heard the version that's on a compilation cd called
>"stanley, son of theodore: yet another alternative music sampler"?  it's
>a really raw live version, lots of amy screaming and such.  what struck me
>the most is how strange of a compilation it is.  ig on the same cd with the
>likes of cyprus hill, public enemy, fishbone and the shamen?  wow.  so,
>anyway, it's a sony release from 1992, ek47304.  inside the booklet is a
>little picture of the girls and it says: "a scintillating live rendition
>of a much-loved song from the indigo girls' 1990 album n*i*s".  no date
>of performance or venue is listed.  then there's a little quote from amy:

i have this cd for sale at <http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo/cdsale.txt>.

---<>---

at 02:29 pm 1/9/98 -0500, carol & sarah wrote about "ellen":
>so, does anyone think that ig did some of those little bits of singing
>and instrumental in those few moments right after commercial break that
>are used for getting your attention again?  i thought it might have
>been.

that was the song "so called friend" by the band texas.

---<>---

at 03:52 pm 1/9/98 -0800, becca bee wrote:
>over the holidays i found this
>photo of amy and emily from probably 1992.  emily has on a clinton gore
>t-shirt and amy a black tee with a superhero type person on it. i was
>wondering if anyone knew where or when this was taken?  it looks like
>maybe washington d.c. or something.

sounds like the 4/15/93 march on washington.

---<>---

at 08:50 am 1/14/98 -0500, mel wrote:
>not having joined the list til 97, i wondered if there had ever been a
>list meet at newport - esp 96, since so many of us were there, it seems.

a guy named bert, who i don't think is here any more, organized a bus trip
and reserved a block of rooms at the best western for newport in '96, but
since i went up on my own i can't vouch for the results.

---<>---

at 12:30 pm 1/14/98 +0000, elizabeth wrote:
>wendy bucklew - "painting sidewalks" - this girl rules!  i highly
>recommend checking her out.  she's raw like mm but more
>acoustic, and very melodical like kris mckay.  this was my first
>listen to her, so if anyone can compare ps to her other cds for
>me, i'd appreciate it.

they're all great, no kidding.  buy them now. :-)  i've always thought it
was a shame that wendy didn't get the same amount of attention as, say,
michelle malone or kristen hall, i think she's at least as talented as they
are, and i love them too.

---<>---

at 11:13 am 1/14/98 +0000, karrie wrote:
>i am sorry, not to be the world's biggest bitch or anything, but this
>dream seems kind of inappropriate to me.  granted, we are all entitled

immature?  yes.  inappropriate, i don't think so.. at least no more so than
the recent moaning about the sexiest amy moments.


---<>---

at 06:49 am 1/15/98 -0800, nunya business wrote:
>danielle howle & tantrums are opening those dates --- yee-haaaaaw!

you guys are lucky!  i like "do a two sable" a lot more than i expected to.
i always thought danielle was someone i *should* like, but "live at
mckissick" just never grabbed me.  but the new cd with the tantrums is
great, i'm wearing it out.

---<>---

karrie wrote:
>everyone in michigan...do yourself the hugest favor in america.....
>
>if you do nothing else, *go see willie porter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!****

i've been a huge fan of willy porter's ever since i heard "angry words" on
a compilation cd.  brilliant acoustic guitarist, excellent lyricist... he's
been near the top of my list for the artist spotlight on my music index for
some time now, and he'll be on there one of these days (right now it's
rockwell church, who i think many of you would like).  there is, however, a
link to willy porter's home page on my index if you'd like to take a look:
<http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo/music.html>.  check out the sound clips
-- i think he may be a better guitar player than emily. <gasp!>


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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 15:03:18 -0800
reply-to:     "lynn cardamone (lca)" <lynncar@microsoft.com>
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from:         "lynn cardamone (lca)" <lynncar@microsoft.com>
subject:      "shindigo"  seattle (pnw) list meet - 1/23

***let me start out by apologizing for having to include the entire ig list
but i have no way contact some listers who rsvpd to our "shindigo" and live
outside of the pacific northwest area and who are not on our pnw sub list***
sorry friends...
______________________________________________________
now for the message....

wow!!!  i cannot tell you how many email responses i got on the seattle list
meet!!!  we have listers coming from all over the pacific northwest as well
as many listers & their guests from other states!!!  this is going to make
the baigl's party look like a "boston tea party" - get it????!!!  8-)

here are the final arrangements for our  "seattle & pacific northwest
lister's - huge - gargantuan - enormous - way better than the "baigls"  ever
had or could have, list meet"

the majority (almost 99%) of the listers that responded wanted to have our
list meet on friday (1/23) -  before the 1/23 concert.

i made reservations at the torero's mexican restaurant in the broadway
market on seattle's capitol hill area (about 2 miles from the venue).
basically we will be taking up the whole restaurant!!

the vital info you need to know to join in on the fun is...

date:           friday, january 23, 1998

time:           5:00 pm  - until the concert starts!!!
                (come earlier if you like - great neighborhood & shops to
look at)

location:       torero's mexican restaurant  - 401 broadway ave. e.
                note  -torero's in inside the broadway market - on the
second floor
                (parking -  in the underground lot of the broadway market or
the street)

phone:          if you get lost - torero's phone number is 206-860-1363

                if you need more info or detailed directions - call me
(lynn) at any of the numbers below...
                425-703-2361 - work
                206-323-38668 - home
                800-503-9213 - pager

directions:

from interstate 5 heading north bound

exit at e. olive way
head east on olive wa for 0.5 miles
continue on olive way heading northeast for another 0.2 miles
olive turns into e. denny way  - then you will come to broadway ave. e.
turn left onto broadway ave. e. & go another 0.2 miles
the broadway market will be on your left - (the address is 401 broadway ave.
e.)

from interstate 5 heading south bound
exit denny way
stay in the left lane and go through traffic light at end of the off ramp
(the road will curve slightly to the right)
the next traffic light is denny
turn left onto e. denny way go 0.4 miles -  (it gets just a little tricky
but keep following denny until you get to broadway) you will come to
broadway ave. e.
turn left onto broadway ave. e. & go another 0.2 miles
the broadway market will be on your left - (the address is 401 broadway ave.
e.)

from the eastside of seattle
take sr 520 heading west to seattle
exit on interstate 5 going south  bound
then follow the directions above - "from interstate 5 heading south"
note:  after you get on interstate 5 south bound, quickly make you way over
the right lanes because the denny exit comes up fairly fast.

see you at the seattle shindigo!!!!  (baigls  - we love you - just having
some fun!)
we are really excited to have you all join us!!!
thanks for all your great email responses!!!
lynn   8-)

> **  "shindigo" copyright1998  - by shelly b. in seattle  :-)  **
>
> ----------
> from:         lynn cardamone (lca)
> sent:         friday, january 09, 1998 3:37 pm
> to:   'indigo-girls@netspace.org'
> subject:      seattle & pnw listers unite  "1/23  shindigo" (igc)
>
> news flash!!!
>
> the seattle & pacific northwest listers are planning a big - huge -
> gargantuan - enormous - way better than the "baigls"  ever had or could
> have, list meet before the 1/23 ig seattle concert.
> you are all welcome to join in on this gala event of titanic
> proportions!!!!
>
> attendees also include listers coming from portland, eugene, vancouver,
> montana, chicago, california and many other places!!!!
> we  reserved a whole restaurant to have a fun-filled ig lister party & get
> everyone psyched before the concert.
> rsvp by monday - 1/12 by emailing me privately.  8-)
>
> baigls???
> come & see how we do ig parties on this side of the rockies!!!  ;-)   just
> having fun with you all....  ;-)
>
> it's going to be an official seattle  "shindigo"
>
> take care friends!
> lynn in seattle
>
> **  "shindigo" copyright1998  - by shelly b. in seattle  :-)  **
>
>

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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 15:41:45 -0800
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can someone from the ani list please email me?  (the
general one, not the news only one)  i need to ask a
boot question, and i need someone to fwrd a message
to the list for me, thanks,

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hey all!
my senior class wants to sing the wood song at our candelight ring ceremony
before graduation as a tribute to the juniors . . . does anyone have the
guitar chords and the sheet music for the song? i would greatly appreciate it
if you could send me a copy (preferably via snail mail) let me know ok?
love ya!
jenny

"from better to best with no second test, those little storms destroy you"

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c'mon folks, someone has to be wanting my totally awesome *7th* row
tickets to the portland concert. email me now and we'll work it out.
-sam (who 'gets' to go write a paper on hobbes, locke, and rousseau now)

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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 17:29:42 -0800
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>famous, i should just post it to the list.  dream it all you want,
>but unless you think it is something that amy and emily wuld
>want to read or hear, keep it between friends.

i couldn't agree with these sentiments more!!!!!  if i were a or e i would
get the willies reading stuff like that:(

and now, so as not to be simply a "me too" post, the opening act for the
seattle show on thursday is vonda shepard - or so i've been told.  (bon and
betsy breathe a sign of relief;)

betsy

"i'm not really like that."

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subject:      a&e reading the list
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i doubt that amy and emily read the list, but they do have close friends on
the list.  most people do not know who the friends are so we should probably
keep that in mind when posting.  i know for a fact that last year someone
(who was quite active on the list and was a good friend of amy's) ended up
unsubscribing because of all the personal discussions going on about the
girls.  not a good pr move if we want a&e to like this list!!!
just my $0.02 (or $1 canadian!)
lori

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i'm in the mood to add my two cents, sooooo here goes.

i think jill is a ray o' sunshine that illuminates the list. i personally
look forward to ms. jill's posts.  i think she is immensely creative &
talented.  i find miss jill's honesty and candor to be a breath o' fresh
air.  (ooohh, to be young again...)

have fun, stay safe, be happy & enjoy,
barbara

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subject:      argh!

just visited the indigo tour site.
i'll be in vegas on march 3 &
ig will be there on feb. 3.
i'm too late.  i was praying for a show
w/in 8 hrs. of vegas when i'm there.
oh well.
just needed to vent.
thanks.
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subject:      ani's new album on world cafe today!
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if you read this and can tape it - world cafe is playing "little plastic
castles tonight. - a few songs - would easily trade a boot for a copy!
mike r.
sorry for the nigc - i needed to release - the ice has drove me nuts!

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a'ight..just a quick question - i just finished listening to the vsu boot
(courtesy o' miss heather d.) and was wonderin' if anyone can tell me why
in god's name emily says "fuck you" in the middle of "love's recovery..."
it's so weird...it's somethin' like - "and drink a toast tofuckyou the
slim chance of love's recovery.." she doesn't even sound mad though - it's
like she just felt like sayin' it.  very interesting...i figure that some
o' you were there, so you might know what the hell was up. :)


-bethany :)
btw i got my "cd101 big room" boot in da' mail today...thanks twink! :)
what a pleasant surprise.

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alright folks, i'm back with my final ticket in the californina series.  and it
is pretty good...

sacramento, ca
sacramento memorial auditorium
january 28, 1998
seat location is: main floor, row c, seat 14.

this basically translates as third row, main floor emily side.  there are 3
sections on the floor as you are facing the stage: left, center and right.  this
seat is in the middle of the right section which is the one on emily's side.

if anyone is interested in this ticket please e-mail me right away so we can
work out the details.  don't let this 3rd row go to waste.  it's my last one and
i swear i'll have a nervous breakdown in no one uses it!  no pressure though, of
course!  okay thanks for listening.

marivel

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like being straight if i were            "i wrecked it!  i wrecked it!
straight too. i like it you know.         i'm a human recital wrecker!!!"
i like the idea of having intimate
relationships with anybody."                       --arthur read

               --a. ray

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does any one have extra warfield(2) tickets.  my wife and i would be
very appriciative.  please help a couple of loal fans. thanks!!

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hi-
i was just wondering-- can anyone enlighten me about the "least
complicated" import ep (from epic--not a boot) which says "least
complicated" on the cover and on the cd, but "touch me fall" on the side
(as if it were the title, even though it's not), but the song tmf isn't
even on the ep?  i'm assuming this is just some random mistake, but maybe
someone out there knows some story or reasoning behind it.  have people
noticed mistakes like that from something professionally done?
leslie

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hi folks,

leslie said:
> i was just wondering-- can anyone enlighten me about the "least
> complicated" import ep (from epic--not a boot) which says "least
> complicated" on the cover and on the cd, but "touch me fall" on the side
> (as if it were the title, even though it's not), but the song tmf isn't
> even on the ep?  i'm assuming this is just some random mistake, but maybe

this sounds like the australian least comp single.  they
artwork is pretty much exactly that which was used for
the us tmf promo singles, and whoever touched it up for
the australian lc single forgot to change the spine.
whoops... *grin*

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hkf's~

        i read a reference (not from this list) about "chasing amy" being a
comic book.  is this a comic?  or maybe they were just chasing amy, who
likes comic books ;)

ttfn~
tony

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funny, i got my jcsx tape in the mail today too.

i loved it. plain and simple. actually, i can't find words to express the
magnitude of my loving it.

but i do want to know one thing: who is this benjamin guy and why can't he
sing?
was he trying to sound like that on purpose or does he just suck?

and why doesn't amy keep her hair that style? it looked great!

i didn't like emily's makeup - too much of it.

but anyways, i loved it. i love the original jcs and i love the new and
improved jcs.

take care, y'all!
kasey

p.s. can anyone tell me how to make a signature file??

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 00:26:24 -0500
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i just have one thing to say about the whole dream controversy.  everyone
is whining and bitching because amy and emily possibly have access to--or
have one of their people read--the posts from this list, and no one wants
them to be offended by these so-called "erotic" and/or "inappropriate"
posts.  i think that if a&e would despair about anything, it's the way some
people have been cutting each other down in the last day or two.  my god,
it's terrible to sit here and read some of the things people are saying to
one another.  put away your flame-throwers!

dear lord, do you people even remember why we all joined the list?  we all
have something in common, and that is our love for amy and emily, be it
their music, their love for humanity, their commitment to politics and
causes, or their wonderfully giving and fun personalities.  who says that
the list has to be limited to this thing or that thing?  who are any of us
to say what is appropriate and what isn't?  i for one am sick of hearing
people say that "this" is immature and that "that" is unethical or
whatever.  who is anyone harming by professing affection for another human
being?  it's not as if the post read something like, "i jumped into emily's
lap and proceeded to..."  it was a recollection of a beautiful moment for
that person, and what gives any of us the right to take that away from her?

i'll get off of my soap box soon, i swear!  it just saddens me to see
people who have so much in common, who should be becoming the best of
friends and loving each other, fighting and throwing cheap shots at one
another.  talk about immature.

anyway, i'm sure this post will be really popular with everyone!  unlike
some people though, i accept criticism well--if you think i'm full of shit,
just tell me.  i'm sure you will--people on this list don't seem to have a
problem expressing themselves!

three cheers for the girls, like i said in my subject.  they are the reason
i joined this list, to talk about them and see what others thought of them.
  yay for a&e!!  like bethany said, i am grateful to have been born in the
"indigo era."

if you feel the need to bash me, do it privately--sherlyn's made it
abundantly clear that those kinds of messages shouldn't be posted, so go
ahead, i can take it!

i really do love all of you, i promise!!!  have great fridays--be careful
out there!

love,

shannon

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hi.
i was posting to the list (or at least to people i sent boots to) that i
went to cuba before christmas with a seminary trip.  a woman i met down
there is a worker for pastors for peace which does caravans to both
chiapas and cuba in the summer, and she had done a bunch of work to help
with the ig benefit concert with rage against the machine for chiapas.
they coordinate trips to both places year round if anyone has a free
month--i learned so much about both the usa and cuba and how our
government is basically screwing their people because we don't like their
leader or socialism.  we have had trade sanctions in place since the 60s,
but since the fall of the ussr, cuba's situation has gotten much worse
since they can't get food.
sorry about this tirade, but someone wrote to this list that the us
should impose trade sanctions for human rights violations.  but in cuba,
the human rights which are being violated are done so by the us
government who is refusing, selfishly, to trade food with a country who
couldn't possibly hurt us anymore--and where children get barely enough
to eat (but they have things to eat because of socialism--the rations are
keeping them alive).
i thought people might be interested in the other place that the group
that takes delegations (like a & e's). thanks for reading this far if you
did!
peace,
beth
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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 20:40:09 +1100
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good evening all,

not sure if this has been mentioned already, but ladyslipper
are taking orders for,  the sots songbook, scheduled for
early '98 as well as the much awaited 1200 curfews
songbook...

http://www.ladyslipper.org/

ta ta

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in a message dated 98-01-15 23:09:44 est, pbethan@bgnet.bgsu.edu writes:

<< was wonderin' if anyone can tell me why
in god's name emily says "fuck you" in the middle of "love's recovery..."
it's so weird...it's somethin' like - "and drink a toast tofuckyou the
slim chance of love's recovery.." she doesn't even sound mad though - it's
like she just felt like sayin' it.  very interesting...i figure that some
o' you were there, so you might know what the hell was up. :) >>

yeah, you could say i was there!!!!!!!!!!  :o)

right before em says fu, some jerk in the audience (the one they proceeded to
invite up onstage after the song) yelled out "play some skynyrd!" he was a
real jerk, not very far from me, and all the security was like "they're asking
for you" since it was right after i had held up my sign, but i knew better.

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 23:31:45 -0500
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hi y'all!

ok, this is my impression of ig on ellen:

- rick

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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 22:48:16 -0600
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hi iggies.
wow, this debate about what is appropriate/inappropriate/good for a&e to
read/enough of a suck-up from the list (are we scared that they won't like
us or what?) is getting, well, long.  but not as long as the grammar
discussion on the darlist!  don't you all (who aren't on the darlist) wish
you could read all of those posts?!  ;-)

but what i really am emailing to say is, i watched ellen last night for
the second time in two weeks, and whoa!  it was pretty darn good!  i guess
what happens is that since my life revolves around other lesbians and the
lesbian community in iowa city etc., it's not a big deal when i see ellen
touching her girlfriend--but i bet to those many straight people who
aren't used to seeing woman-to-woman affection, the show is getting kind
of shocking.  not to mention the emotional resonance of the whole family
rejection vs. family acceptance thingy!  whoa.  too bad my dad probably
wasn't watching--it's not like i can ask him, because we don't talk...
anyway, go ellen.  and just to think, without the ig list, i'd never have
gone back to watching any shows on tv.

igc: kristina (hi) tells me that y'all who are dying for a copy of the
turn of the decade: ben and jerry's newport folk festival 1990  (because
of american tune sung by the ig among other lovely songs) can find the cd
at http://www.cdnow.com  so if you were thinking "yes, i do want that cd,"
go get it!

i wanted to ask a wicked question (what percentage of any entertainer's
popularity is sex appeal?) but i think, nope, it wouldn't go over well.
ugh.  the list is getting leaden
                                and
                                        dragging
                                                me
                                                        down.
                                                                .
                                                                        .
so golly gee folks, let's have some fun gosh darnit! okay, i'll repeat a
story my younger brother told me today (apocryphal no doubt, but funny
nonetheless):
three guys in a chemistry class at duke were getting straight as, so the
weekend before the monday final they went out and partied.  oops.  they
were so drunk (or hung over) that they missed the final, so they went to
the professor and said they were travelling and had a flat tire, and she
agreed to let them retake the final on wednesday.  she put them in
separate rooms with their finals.  the first question was relatively easy,
and was worth 5% of the grade; the guys were each thinking "hey, no
problem!" then they turned the page.  the question, worth 95%, was
"which tire?"


owwwwww!  the pain!  actually, i don't think this story is funny,
since as sweet and "straight"-laced as i am, even i have pulled some shit
in college and grad school.  ooh would i have hated being caught!  but...
let's all remember...

"it's only life, after all...yeah..."

luv,
suzi

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in a message dated 98-01-15 23:47:44 est, tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net writes:

<<  i read a reference (not from this list) about "chasing amy" being a
comic book.  is this a comic?  or maybe they were just chasing amy, who
likes comic books ;) >>

first of all- bizarre timing!! i just brought something up about ca on another
list in reference to the use of the term "queer"- then in an odd coincidence i
recieved my chasing amy laserdisc today (which had been on backorder when i
was supposed to get it as a holiday gift!!), and now this!

the film chasing amy is about a comic book creator who falls in love with
anohter comic book creator who happens to be a lesbian. by the end of the
film, the man has written a comic book that is called... brace yourself...
chasing amy.  but as far as i know there isn't an actual chasing amy comic
book...

check out www.viewaskew.com -the kevin smith production company's web site.

peace,
  rick
keeper of random thoughts & delirium, gay tripper, buffy addict
struggling whatever, pop culture junkie, michelle malone fan
creator of odd web pages: http://members.aol.com/jakeryan12/music.html
*what's a nubian?* -banky edwards, chasing amy. ;)

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hey y'all,

i just received a copy of the watershed video from a friend. she didn't
know that i already had it, so i'm offering it up here to the first person
to e-mail me saying they want it. it's brand new, still sealed. i'm asking
what was paid for it $14.95 + $3.00 shipping. first person i hear from gets
it. e-mail me privately at scorpio7@sagami.or.jp

peace,
susan

ps
the $17.95 i get for this will into a fund to help a co-worker who just
lost his son and all of his possessions to a house fire.

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>on to the igc: this was in this week's "drum media" (a sydney
>based weekly free street paper):

rotfl...i would have given anything for a photo of your face when you
stumbled over the article....what a find!! :)

joad

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date:         thu, 15 jan 1998 22:43:17 -0600
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subject:      grammys - when ig won

um, i'm going to ask something that
probably has been asked....but, when ig
won their grammys for best contemporary
folk, was that on tv?  was their performance?
was the presentation of the grammy and
their acceptance?  you'll have to forgive a
newbie who just became a huge fan with
1200 curfews.  last big question.....does
anyone have a video copy of all of this if
ig were indeed on tv?  and, if so, would
you trade for it?

lisa s. (not d.)

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subject:      michigan womyn's festival

not sure if anyone posted this yet, but
here's the url for the michigan womyn's
festival.  no specific info about acts is
available yet.  they are still in the planning
stages.  you can read general stuff about
the event, though, and stay tuned for updates
to this page:

http://www.michfest.com/

hey, susan b. marine......you're getting
me all excited about the mwf with all of
your posts about it.....keep it up!  hope to
see you there!

lisa s. (not d.)

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on wed, 14 jan 1998, carol & sarah wrote:

> well, there is an aa folk festival on jan 31.  i have a flyer that
> mentions it, but it does not mention ani.  it does mention paula cole,
> guy clark, chris smither, cherly wheeler, karen pernick, doc watson &
> david grisman, the nields (evryone seemes to have been talkin' bout them
> recently), dee carstensen, great big sea, and willy porter.  it does say
> in itty bitty type, near the bottom  "program subject to change."  i"ll
> be kickin' myself if ani goes, and i'm not there (nor do i have the
> $$$$).

just to clarify, as i work for the group putting on this show.....there
are no plans for ani to be at this show (as a performer, i have no idea
what she plans to do personally).  it's a wonderful show and she has
performed there in the past, but is not scheduled this year.  we just did
her in october at the same venue on her own, so it's a little soon to have
her back.  if anyone has questions regarding folk fest, feel free to drop
me a line.

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okey doke,

the tape is sold. thanks to those who offered to send money for my
co-worker. there will an official fund set up in a day or two, and i'll
send you the address to send donations to if you are so inclined. until
then, thank you for all the well wishes and good karma that's been coming
this way. you all are the best!

peace,
susan

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hi.  could someone please tell me what world cafe is exactly and where
you can hear it.  also, where you can get the world cafe cd's.  thanks,
julia

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 10:55:59 -0500
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    those of you on the dar list know there has been much talk lately of
artists covering songs who change the gender of the song (i.e., the
pronouns, etc.), so i thought i'd share with the rest of you and start it on
this list as well.
    i have always meant to mention this, but then mad-cow disease sets in
and i forget, so before it slips my mind again, i thought i'd bring it up.
i find it very ironic that when ig covers "danny's song" on levees, they
change the gender of the object of love from female to male, when we all
know that it would have been very appropriate left the way it was.  at
least, i think it's ironic - i've lost the true meaning of irony after
listening to that alanis song one too many times ("those things aren't
ironic, they just suck!") - so feel free to correct me if i've got it wrong.
so my question about this cover is:  when was this recorded?  because if it
was recorded during their infamous saliers & ray years, then perhaps they
did not at that point know that they didn't really need to change the
gender.  i'm willing to bet they've had a few laughs over that.  so, anyway,
if you know the time frame of the recording, that would be helpful.  and
even if you don't, i'd love to hear your comments.  are there any other
instances of this?
    one more thing:  i brought up the ms. article in my last post and didn't
get any responses to it.  am i to take that to mean that it had already been
discussed and you all knew about it?  i hope so, because it's a good article
and a great honor for the girls, so don't miss out.

elizabeth

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chrisy wrote:
=)1. is it just me or can you guitar players help me out, are indigo girls
=)guitar parts extremely complicated or am i just slow?

        hi there,

        they seem to be pretty talented guitarists... at least their
lead guitar parts can be somewhat complicated at times.  they also
use capos a lot, it seems, so if you're trying to learn by ear, it's
possible that the capo throws you off.

        just my $.02 worth...  =)  hope i put your mind to rest at
least a little.  ;)

        mike feeney


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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 11:55:32 -0500
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oops, i hit the send button too early. sorry about that. but what i was going
to type was that i've gotten many replies about my guitar part questions but
none about the song "water is wide" i asked about. can you all help me out
please? wait i take that back i did get one reply but i'd like some more
info.


thanks,
chrisy

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since you all have such a wealth of knowledge about all thing musical (and
otherwise), i thought i'd ask a question.  i'm just listening to tori amos'
version of leonard cohen's "famous blue raincoat" (a beautiful song if you
haven't heard it).  i wondered if cohen wrote it for/to/about anyone in
particular.  any information would be great.  thanks.

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on fri, 16 jan 1998, elizabeth skipper wrote:

>     i have always meant to mention this, but then mad-cow disease sets in
> and i forget, so before it slips my mind again, i thought i'd bring it up.
> i find it very ironic that when ig covers "danny's song" on levees, they
> change the gender of the object of love from female to male, when we all
> know that it would have been very appropriate left the way it was.

i haven't got levees (and don't have any plan to), but i can think of a
far worse incidence of a singer changing the gender of a song.   last
summer i went to the cropredy festival, which is the annual get-together
of fairport convention, and related artists.   on the first night, they
had the 'early' fairport (for those who know about fairport, up until
liege and lief), and because sandy denny has been dead for 20 years, they
had to get someone to replace her, so they got vikki clayton, who's a
little-known english folk singer who supposedly sounds a bit like sandy
denny.   now one of the early songs they sang was leonard cohen's
"suzanne" (about half of the band's early repertoire was covers), and i
don't know if the original fp version was sung by iain matthews or denny,
but i know that denny sung other songs about women without changing the
gender (eg. "memphis, tenessee" by chuck berry).   but vikki clayton
couldn't handle that, so when she sung the second verse (simon nicol, the
rhythm guitarist, sung the first verse), she changed all the "she's" to
"he's".   which was ridiculous, because the song ceased to make sense as a
result.   (when she sung the harmonies she sung it properly though, and
the rest of the playing was excellent - my respect for dave mattacks was
restored that night, because when i heard him with richard thompson the
year before he sounded dreadful.)

mat

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hello petunias!

y'know simon zealotes on jcs:r?  she was freaking faboo, wasn't she?  i love
that voice.  and she had great stage presence on the vid.  does anyone know of
who exactly she is, besides "kelly hogan" and what she's involved in?  albums?
touring?

anyone know of viva la diva lyrics online, or does anyone have any they worked
out?  and how's the new album--is it as good as greatest hits, vol. 1?  and if
you don't have it, grrlies and boys, amy sings on the last track but one and
she's freaking amazing!!!!!  (it's available from daemon,
http://monsterbit.com/daemon).  right, lynda and fran????  one of the
highlights of the capedigo (uh, i guess i should tell y'all we had a flopped
skidigo b/c susi b. homemaker got iced but good, so we improvved and had a
mini-capedigo at lynda's.  the baigls have a life of their own far outside the
limits of mere indigo girls concerts, pnw'ers, so neener neener!  the sheer
scope of our mutual affiliations is astounding!  and of course, you may have
miss binky, but we have susan cheesecake) was watching fran listen to
"when you're ready".  what a treat.  :)

damn, it's been so long since i posted, this feels peculiar.  while i'm
here--don't flame, delete!  it's not worth the negative karma.  keep your sigs
small!  don't quote the whole msg!  pity the digest-ives (chocolate and
biscuity and melting in your hands, right, anglophiles?)

and to be nice, i'll trade with the next five people that want to, newbies,
oldies, whatever, cuz i'm all done!  if i owe you something, consider it in
the mail!  woohoo!

missy h, la spark de la vie de da

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at 10:55 am 1/16/98 -0500, elizabeth skipper wrote:
>    i have always meant to mention this, but then mad-cow disease sets in
>and i forget, so before it slips my mind again, i thought i'd bring it up.
>i find it very ironic that when ig covers "danny's song" on levees, they
>change the gender of the object of love from female to male, when we all
>know that it would have been very appropriate left the way it was.

we know that now, but seeing as they started covering that tune in high
school (the song appears on tuesday's children which was recorded in amy's
basement in '81 when they were known as "the b-band"), maybe it just wasn't
the right time to sing "she and i" instead of "he and i". i mean anne
murray didn't change the pronouns either ;)

deb

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 13:30:09 -0500
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does anyone know where i can get a copy of the jcs video the ig are in, i
check at borders (in ft. wayne, in) but they don't have it listed as being
available.
i have the cd ordered, but would rather have the visual.  any help would be
appreciated!!!!
thanks,
paula

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hi all,

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send me yer e-mail addy..i just got a test for all you pack maniacs

the battle continues

oh yeah

i sure do like those singers..what are they called..oh yeah indigo girls
i think they have great talent
ilove their music
i love the visual images i get from their music
i love their political activism
i love the fact that their music has turned me on......to michell malone
and kristen hall  and daemon records and discussions on this list have
introduced me to dar
i love the fact the the words of their music has inspired me thru some
pretty tough times
i love everything in its own time.,.it speaks alot about maturity
i especially love the message in fugitive,,how amy speaks how she needs
to run from crazy fans who invade her personal life and stalk her and
tend to feel thather life is theirs to do with as they like just cause
they buy her stuff
i love burn all the letters where emily states ya gotta hide your real
self cause someone else will find it and turn it around into becoming
what they want it to mean..how  she must protect her privacy..

their music has taught me so much..

i sure do like whatthey have givin to me..i'd hate to see them feel they
need to hide from us..ever

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 13:54:39 -0500
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i ordered the video from daemon.  you can order it online with a credit card or
send a check in the mail.  just go to the daemon page!  it's pretty quick,
too.  i got mine in just over a week after ordering.

take care,
sharon

paula fleener wrote:

> does anyone know where i can get a copy of the jcs video the ig are in, i
> check at borders (in ft. wayne, in) but they don't have it listed as being
> available.
> i have the cd ordered, but would rather have the visual.  any help would be
> appreciated!!!!
> thanks,
> paula
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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 14:19:48 -0500
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okay, two questions:
a)has anybody heard of a group called "the wyrd sisters"? they have a
video that is playing in pretty heavy rotation on cmt (the canadian
country station, which i've been keeping an eye on since somebody said
that they play ig), and i was curious if the rest of their album is
folky like that song or country?

b)commonbond is playing at goucher's coffeehouse on wednesday january
29th...they're a duo, they do some ig covers, and they're pretty good,
and its free (as are coffee, tea, cocoa, soda, if you bring a mug). if
someone in  the baltimore area cares to go, i can get you onto campus.

regarding gender in cover songs: that discussion reminded me of a
comment that melissa etheridge made about how coming out allowed her to
play some songs she might otherwise  never have covered...i always just
played the songs without changing gender, even before i came out. in
high school, my sister and i used to play at cafes and open mikes, and
we never changed the songs - even frozen lake, by buffalo tom ("see she
fits to me so easily") i never really considered playing around with the
lyrics.

sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 14:55:00 -0500
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could someone please mail me the subscription info to the ani difranco
mailing list?  i've seen it posted before but forgot to write it down.


thanks,

jon

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<<<<sounds like the 4/15/93 march on washington.>>>>>>>

yeah that was the march on washington alright, however, the date was 4/25/93.
i know cause it was on my girlfriends birthday and we were there.  it was a
great day!!!

sandy

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 15:49:40 est
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subject:      vinyl sots and mwmf

--- you wrote:
hey, susan b. marine......you're getting
me all excited about the mwf with all of
your posts about it.....keep it up!  hope to
see you there!
--- end of quoted material ---

whoa, y'all, this is like so coolio! about 50 of you crazy cats (all chicas, of
course) have emailed me about the mwmf!  i am envisioning covered wagons with
lots of cute girls and baby bels, and tents that hold 64 people unless we all
lay on top of each other, and free tattooing of your favorite brand of
toothpaste on your inner thigh. this gonna be  fuuun!

okay, maybe not that much fun.

dont let me scare you. but *do* think about getting on the list!

ummm, and i have some igc!!! yess i do-dah!
i am looking for a copy of sots on vinyl for a very special friend. does such a
thing exist? let me know...
kisses,sus

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hi all
     i have recently heard that the girls were on mountain stage on three
separate occassions. i have the most recent appearance but i was wondering if
anyone had the other two. thanks a lot.
                          -kristin

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on fri, 16 jan 1998, susan b. marine wrote:

> hey, susan b. marine......you're getting
> me all excited about the mwf with all of
> your posts about it.....keep it up!  hope to
> see you there!
**
> this gonna be  fuuun!

...just pray to the goddesses (along with me) that it doesn't rain the
entire time like it did last year....

-sarah in st. louis

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 13:34:28 -0800
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subject:      for sale - 4th row - portland tickets

i feel like some kind of  ticket broker or something...

i came to realize that i have 4 extra tickets for the portland show on jan.
24th.

these are great floor seats - in the 4th row!!!!

they are...

floor  - row 4 - seats 3 - 4 - 5 - 6

the cost of each ticket is $36.45 (that is $29.50 for the ticket plus 6.95
ticketmaster's absurd charge).

please contact me today or by sunday (1/18) if you are interested.  i need
to sell these by monday, 1/19.
i can be reached at work @ 425-703-2361 until 4:00 today or send email to
this email address.

thank you friends!
lynn in seattle  8-)

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hey kids,
i thought i had remembered something about a pete seeger tribute album with
ig, but when i mentioned it, nobody bit.  now i found this blurb at
www.ladyslipper.org
various artists - the songs of pete seeger (2-cd set)
with his gentle but unshakable dedication to social justice, pete seeger has
been one of the most pivotal singer-songwriters and folk musicians of our
century, embracing and fashioning the power of music to its fullest
revolutionary and nurturing potential. this 1997 double cd celebrates the
sounds of seeger, with original interpretations of his works by: ani
difranco, holly near and ronnie gilbert, indigo girls, bonnie raitt, judy
collins, peter paul & mary, richie havens, tom paxton, roger mcguinn, bruce
cockburn, billy bragg, and many more.

does anyone have any more information about this, what song they sing, etc?
i'm thinking of ordering it, but i'd like to make sure it's not a song i
already have (which it probably isn't since it's a tribute album, but
still...).  thanks.

elizabeth

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 09:37:22 +1100
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hey folks,

first, the dream thing - i don't think everyone here is ever
going to reach agreement about this.  i think it's time to
take the thread off the list if you want to keep on
discussing it.  thanks.

also, the amount of nigc here has been creeping ever upwards
again.  could we try to tone it down?  in that spirit, i'd
like to propose a new song of the week (picked at random, ie
the first one to come into my head) - reunion.  what do you
think about this song, what does it mean to you, do you have
any questions about it?  now's the time to speak up.

one last thing - about the subscription renewal thing.  i
suspect that it's been acting up a little and unsubscribing
people even after they've sent off the correct confirmation
command.  if this has happened to you in the last three months
or so, please drop me a short note letting me know (at
sherlyn@fl.net.au).  if it's happened to enough people i'll
just turn it off...

(i just read back over the above paragraph.  if it doesn't
make sense to you, don't worry, chances are that it doesn't
apply.  hopefully it'll make sense to the right people... :)

don't mind me, i just woke up.  happy weekends all -
sherlyn
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"when you wake up from this night, oh yes there'll be a morning;
the sun's gonna be shining bright, with new ideas dawning.
and when you wake up from this night, we'll start a new beginning,
show the earth her due respect, create new laws for living..."
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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 17:51:57 -0500
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hey yall

i felt stronly compelled to post to yall concerning a rumor about lift.
actually, it is about the girls of lift specifically. i must preface this
and tell you that i honestly don't think it has even reached the ears of
anyone on the list, but these things travel fast and i wanted to circumvent
the possibility of it getting on the list and getting out of control. in
some circle here in atlanta someone has started a rumor that molly, simone
and i do drugs. when i first heard about it last night, my first reaction
was to laugh. if any of you know us personally, you know that we are the
biggest bunch of nerds around. if life were a "happy days" episode, lift
would be.....potsie webber - the biggest nerd of all. after i laughed, i
realized that one of my best friends who was telling me about this rumor,
actually had a shred of doubt in her mind about me. i quickly set her
straight but i realized that if she entertained the thought, then people
who don't even know us personally might accept it more readily as the
truth. it simply is not true. my girlfriend (a lister) would kick my ass if
i did anything stupid like that. i don't know how or where this insane
rumor started but it has really bothered me ever since my friend told me
last night. the only thing i can come up with is one of two possibilities:

1. someone who holds something personally against one or all of us is just
being immature and reckless. if so, what goes around comes around......

2. i have heard alot from people saying we are too skinny and maybe someone
flippantly said that we were skinny from doing drugs. i can tell you this,
that when you spend two weeks with the same people in a van, there aren't
too many secrets. none of us do drugs. we did, however, request on our ig
hospitality rider a bottle of advil (which the venues rarely gave us!
bastards!!!). and trust me, there was no vomiting after meals. yuck!

i am obviously troubled by this for a number of reasons. it would be very
different if we were hugely famous because benign, misguided things are
said and discounted  all the time. the fact is, we aren't famous and we
hear these things and it probably originated from someone who knows us or
has known us. not to mention the fact that the music business is tricky. it
is hard enough to make it as a band in this business without this kind of
stuff tacked on to your reputation. we are the cleanest, most professional
band i have ever been associated with. being in a relatively successful
band in this day and age is more like running a small business and requires
a great deal of professionalism, ambition and drive. we would have never
worked our way to this level of the business, having toured with the indigo
girls, if we were on drugs. it is simply a different world than it was in
past eras. the music business is very different and most bands i know of
are pretty clean when it comes to drugs.

so there! i feel better already. just so you know, i haven't even told
molly and simone about this so send any comments or suggestions directly to
me. they are busy writing new songs and i don't want to burden them with
this right now because i know it would bother them as much as it did me.

thanks for indulging me..........."it's better to be brave than dead"

julie c

ps

our coca cola radio commercials probably won't start airing in the us for a
month or so. those of you in the d.c. area can find us at the big new
sports arena they are building or have already built. we apparantly are the
background music for some washington wizards video display there....check
it out


buh bye

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 17:59:44 -0500
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hhusted@bu.edu wrote:
> does anyone know of who exactly she is, besides "kelly hogan" and what
> she's involved in?  albums? touring?

yes!  kelly hogan was formerly in a band called the jody grind and they
have 2 cds out... i highly recommend getting "lefty's deceiver" it's my
fav.  also, kelly has one of her own out... "the whistle only dogs can
hear".  on a tragic side note here... the jody grind did not break-up,
as so many of the great bands do, but they lost 2 of the 4 members in a
fatal car accident.  (i remember this vividly as it was just two weeks
before i vacationed in tampa and my friend bob told me about the loss
while i was there.)

there you go... check it out!
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i went to a washington wizards game the other day because i got free tix for
buying season tix for the new wnba team (vip courtside yahooey...now all i
need is for jamila  wideman to get traded to dc...but anyway....)

i heard the song..or part of it...i don't remember when or in what context but
i remember thinking that it sounded familiar or something and  wondering what
it was..now i know :)

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hi, this is in response to chrisy's post about "water is wide".  i'm not
sure if this has been posted yet, but these are the chords i use to play
the song:

water is wide

gsus 302013
bm   x24432
dsus xx0233

              g  gsus  g
the water is wide
              g  gsus  g
i can't cross o'er
            em
and neither i
              dsus  d
have wings to fly
           bm   c
give me a boat
           g  gsus  g
can carry two
                g  gsus  g
and both shall row
            g  gsus  g
my love and i

my love is gentle
and love is kind
the sweetest flower
when first it's new
but love grows old
and waxes cold
and fades away
like morning dew

(solo - which i don't know how to write in computer tab)

there is a ship
she sails the sea
she's loaded deep
as deep can be
but not as deep
as the love i'm in
i know not how
to sink or swim

(no chords)
the water is wide
i can't cross o'er
and neither i
have wings to fly
give me a boat
that can carry two
and both shall row
my love and i

and both shall row
my love and i

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hey all!
reunion has special singnificance for me because it was the first song played
at my first ig concert. i was a new fan, though already with love for the
girls, and hadn't heard it yet. you know how, when you go to concerts and you
hear a song you don't know it doesn't really do much for you? that's how it
was. about two months ago my best friend gave me swamp ophelia (a stellar
album) and when i heard reunion, it was like i already knew the song with out
knowing it, somehow it was a part of me-- i had forgotten that i had heard it
at the concert.
that experience aside, it is one of my absolute favorite songs ever. i love
the breathy begining (big breath) "i had guards like watchdogs . . "
i also relate to this song very profoundly, and often repeat lines from it to
keep me going during the day. i love how amy talks about being conscious of
her coping skills: "i could feel the protection, posession and anger." some of
the best lines are:
"and i laughed as i said it, this is my situation, it's not pictures or
privelige it's just self preservation."
and obviously i love the chorus:
"all you pretty pretenders, negligent venders, aren't you prescious inside? i
have no need for anger with intimate strangers i've got nothing to hide" i
love how at the end we are all reduced to 'pretty pretenders'
the other amazing part of the song is where em sings "we act empty and
innocent but we are fueled by distortion of lives led in discontent, fading
miss fortunes" can't you just feel the gentle sway in her music! oh! love it!
well, thanx for letting me share my love of the girls and reunion!
love y'all
jenny

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 20:15:21 -0500
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twink wrote:
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kelly hogan was formerly in a band called the jody grind and they
have 2 cds out... i highly recommend getting "lefty's deceiver" it's my
fav.  also, kelly has one of her own out... "the whistle only dogs can
hear".  on a tragic side note here... the jody grind did not break-up,
as so many of the great bands do, but they lost 2 of the 4 members in a
fatal car accident.
===========

kelly hogan was also the base player for the band, rock*a*teens, for a
while. last year, she moved to chicago, i believe, to continue with her
career...
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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 20:39:27 -0400
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a'ight listpeople! it's about that time - "yiiiih boooy!"  (o.k...i
turned into a "beastie boy.")
yep, you guessed it...the indigo girls cover tape...uh-huh..that's
right.  less than two weeks until i start compiling it.   yes, i'm
excited...as i'm sure all the rest of y'all (heh heh) are too. :)
if you're still sendin' tapes to me, that's cool daddy-o...don't worry-
my b.g. mailbox proved to me yesterday that it's really my box...(i
don't know...3 days without mail - i was gettin' worried)
so, what i need *now* is for those of you that have sent me tapes (or
are *planning* to) to send me a brief bio...ya' know..what you do - if
you go to school...your major...etc.  so that when  everyone says "wow..
that bethany chick...she's a damned good singer (does this type o'
self-congratulatory behavior qualify me for a flame?!)...i wonder what
she does..." they'll have an answer... :) heh heh..gotta keep up the
"indicated" tradition... make sure you send it to my b.g. address
pbethan@bgnet.bgsu.edu....i'm just at home for the weekend and
subscribed for a meager two days...enough time for me to catch up on
things i suppose...soon enough, i'll be subscribed there.
yep, that's right...keep 'em comin' folks...things are lookin' good. :)
let's see...is there any igc that i can add ta' this sucker ?
hmmm..nope...oh wait..last night i had this dream that amy.....
(whatever...i'm only kiddin' - i've been gone, but i'm still keepin' up
on the news...)
o.k. dudes...i'm outta here. :)  glad to be back.
oh one more thing...mandi martin...e-mail me!  you need to change my
e-mail address on the activism page...it's changed since you included me
as a bad-assed "list contact."

have a good one.
-bethany :)

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 20:36:38 -0500
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i just saw this little tid-bit on the dar list:

=======================================================================
i know it's early, and the full schedule isn't supposed to be
available until june, but some early sleuthing has indicated a
potential ben and jerry's ff lineup that includes both dar and the
angelic-voiced alison krauss for saturday.
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sorry for the nigc...

:o)
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hey list!
  i haven't posted in a while, so this gets to be really
long...right?  first, "reunion" - i can't wait to go to my
first high school reunion just so i can blast this really
loud on the way and remind myself how my high school was
chock full of pretty pretenders and how miserable i was but
how i'm happy and fulfilled now and i could care less what
those people think of me.  this was actually my first real
favorite amy song, because i was in high school at the
time and felt those sentiments oh-so-deeply.  and i heard
american tune for the first time today. it should be called
american out of tune (aren't i witty?). wow, i didn't think
the girls had the ability to be that out of tune.  it
hurted my ears. thirdly, for all of you folk music lovers
in/near boston, i have a friend on the dar-list who plays
lots of open mikes at club passim.  i just heard his tape
for the first time today and it's great.  his name is eric
gerber so please go see him and buy his tape 'n stuff.
finally, i have this cool press release on same sex
marriage awareness day (that knot tying day thingy) - if
anyone wants it e-mail me.
            that's all, have a great weekend!
                    steph

stephanie lynne merhar
university of virginia
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"so many things i could have done
but clouds got in my way"
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aaah!  the first song that i ever heard rolling outta' the indigo girls
was "mystery."  i don't think that anything can parallel the way my body
felt when that first chord reached my ears....oh lord - it was good.
the whole thing seems like a dream to me now - it's very strange....it
was like i'd been listening to them for so long and suddenly they were
right there before me....and that was just the beginning, of the rest of
my life! :)  i haven't been the same since.

-bethany :)

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hi!

i'm selling part of my indigo girl collection...as well as
a bunch of other artists. if you'd like a list of the records,
(7" and 12") cds, cassettes, or songbooks please send e-mail
to kahst18@nb.net.   please state if you'd only like to
receive the ig list.
thanks,
kim

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hi everyone--
not that what i have to say is too, too profound, but i had to post because
reunion is one of my favorite ig songs.  besides being really snappy and
fun to listen to, the lyrics are very inspirational to me.  i love the
great freeing feeling that you have when you decide that you don't care
about all the petty things that people say and do and what they think about
you.  it's very empowering because then you know you can be yourself (yeah,
that sounds kind of cheesy, but it's true).  i'm not sure if that's
*exactly* what amy's getting at, but that's what i think about when i
listen to this song.  it's great. :)  i just had to say that.
leslie

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in a message dated 98-01-16 20:47:31 est, rhcp@alpha.wcoil.com writes:

<< aaah!  the first song that i ever heard rolling outta' the indigo girls
was "mystery." >>

the first one i heard was "shed your skin."  oh my gaaaaaaaaaawd.  i was in
the 7th heaven for ever after i heard that.  seems like everyhting good
happened to me at that show - got amy's autograph, got onstage, got amy-
hugged, and met some of the most wonderful people i could ever hope to meet!
;o)

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
   -   novitiate of suzanneglassism
     - president, grlchasr26 fan club
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
can you show me now that i will not be killed in vain,
show me just a little of your omnipresent brain!
show me there's a reason for your wanting me to die,
you're far too keen on where and when and not so hot on why!
-amy as jesus, "the garden of gethsemane"
from jesus christ super-star: a resurrection
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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 22:12:35 -0500
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>i love the great freeing feeling that you have when you decide that you
>don't care
>about all the petty things that people say and do and what they think about
>you.  it's very empowering

i get the same kind of warm fuzzies/i can kick anyone's ass -- just try me!
feelings when i listen to i don't wanna know.

"i'm not scared and i'm not lonely, not saving all my money or my breath"
"you want me back for more and i just won't go!!!"

i wonder if i don't wanna know is written about the same town/experience
as reunion. like, she got away from this town, these people. and later in
life when she met up with them again at her reunion, it just cemented
the feelings she had in the first place. that she was better off gettin' the
hell outta there!

idwk: you followed me this far, did you find out what's inside.
            can you tell me what i'm doing? is it something i should hide?

reunion:  i have no need for anger with intimate strangers
                    i got nothing to hide.

okay, just half a thought.
cathy, who *certainly* doesn't want to find out what she left there for!

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"you can stand here and agonize 'til your agony's your heaviest load" es
"one day you just get tired of crying
running can't escape the beating heart" -- edie brickell
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okay, okay...i know i have posted this request a million times to the
list but i am desperate.  my sister's partner's birthday is coming up
and i really, really want to give her the boot(s) to the ig concerts on
the pier in seattle.  the dates are july 11, 12, and 13, 1997.  we
attended all 3 concerts and they were the best nights in our lives.
please email me if you have any information at all on these shows.
thank you so much!

becca

indigo_24@hotmail.com

p.s. reunion is one of my favorite indigo songs! it helped me through a
tough decision i had to make awhile ago.(i just had to twist the meaning
of amy's words to fit my personal dilemma~hey it worked and it really
helped me!). i won't bore you with the whole story~just thought i'd let
you know!

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 22:26:26 -0500
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i second the person who said "mystery" was their first song at their first
concert.  me too!  it was amazing.  i just started crying.  i can't quite
describe it.  i really liked that song beforehand, but hearing it as my
first live ig song ever elevated it to a whole nother level for me!

:-) karen

and i totally agree with stephanie!  i can't wait to blast "reunion" on my
way home from my first high school reunion.  i'll be laughing at all the
fake people all the way home!  (i'm not totally sadistic or anything...)

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 22:34:08 est
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there is a movie called chasing amy, was there a mix up on what the subject
was?

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 22:53:02 est
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i was interested in getting a ca license plate so i did an online search and
even though i've never seen an actual ig license plate a lot of them are
spoken for.  the following come up when i do a search on indigo:    indigo
indigog     indigos     indigoz   amongst others. also ndgogrl is taken.  so
if anyone has any ideas for a plate email me privately.

only 10 days until i see the girls in sf !!!

rose

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hello fortunate ones~

        a.r. says she met the chickenman near bastrop, texas.  i used to
pass that stretch of highway when i went to college at southwestern
university in georgetown, texas, comin back and forth from houston.
        there used to a one-room wooden house on the side of the highway
(about 8' x 12').  it had a chimney with smoke usually coming out.  the
front door was open during the warm months and i could see a b&w television
running inside as i drove by at 75mph plus on numerous occasions.  however,
i never caught sight of a human being on that property.
        for some reason, when i first heard chickenman (and i had no idea of
its origin) i *thought* of that cabin on the side of the highway near
bastrop and felt a certain connection.  later, i found out the details of
amy's amazing c-man encounter!
        (tony adlib)  i think that the chickenman lived in *that* shack
(although i don't recall seeing a sign that said, "chickenman" near the
roadside).  but i passed that way from 1979 to 1981 (and later), and amy
said she met the c-man about 1988 or '89.
        (tony's hypothesis)  do-gooders from nearby bastrop (probably
baptist -- no offense intended :o) probably decided that the c-man deserved
better accomodations and gave him a mobile home (trailer).  there are
several trailers along the same stretch of highway where the shack was.
        i think that during "the move of the chickenman" into his new
trailer, all of his belongings were layed out around the trailer (probably
in hopes he would throw them away).  but being a compulsive horder, c-man
would *not* part with his goods -- books, toasters, old motorcycle
parts...etc...  and then a.r. stumbled upon "the flea market" :o
        weather or not you agree with my hypothesis, i am offering an ig
"chickenman" excursion to anyone whose interested.  i can't promise anything
(i think the c-man's shack has devolved into it's surroundings), but we'll
travel to lovely bastrop, tx near where amy met the c-man and *look* for the
c-man and his habitat, and we'll play chickenman *real loud* on the stereo
and have a good ole' ig time! :)
        this is a one day dealy.  i'm flexible regarding timing, but the
more the merrier!  please respond privately if you are interested in a
chickenman road rally :)


i       tony doolittle - houston, texas, usa            g
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g       us away to our extinction -  emily saliers      s
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hi folks,
i don't have a lot to say (as opposed to my darlist fury)...but i wanted to
respond to stephanie's comment about "american tune" and the girls being
out of tune.  my only question is, "what boot are you listening to?!"  both
of the versions i have (town and country march 1993 and the newport folk
fest 1990) are in beautiful harmony; so beautiful that i was remembering
one of the reasons i liked the girls earlier in their incarnation as a
mostly close harmony acoustic duo.  i still love them, but they sure are
different now!  anyway, steph, i think you need to listen to some other
version...or something!
okay, i admit it, i have "at" from newport on repeat right now.  it's so
nostalgic, or at least wistful, and "tough" in that young american
way--totally vulnerable, slightly cynical, world-weary, longing for
connections.
reunion: my ten year high school reunion will be coming up in two years or
so.  yikes!  i hope i'm a published pretender by that time.  ;-)  i skipped
the five year one because it was a...what do you call it..."pub crawl" in
which various idiots from my small private school reuinted to drink on a
bus.  ooh, how exciting.  if i have a book out, or if i have a kick-ass
girlfriend, or if i can sew like romy and michelle, i will attend that ten
year one.   (by the way, did anyone else see romy and michelle?  it was so
funny!  i laughed so hard that tears were running down my face
uncontrollably...if you went to high school in the eighties, this is one
you might not want to miss.)
okay, love y'all,
suzi

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i figured now was the perfect time to post about my ig dream.  well, no,
but i do have a purpose.  its my 2nd ig dream...and this time em was in
it more than a second.  well, i don't remember it all to well, or was it
highly exciting.  sarah & i were in some big room place, working on some
sort of project--planning or something.  sarah was working w/ emily & i
with amy.  i don't know what we were planning.  there were a few others
bustling around, but i don't know what they were doing.  oh well...the
point here is that we (amy & i, at least) were working on a computer.  i
realize now, that both of my ig dreams had computers playing at least
some role.  what is this list doing to my subconcious!!!  i now
associate ig with computers!!!  yipes!!  oh well....
the last dream i was trying to close down some program that amy had on
her computer, and now we were working on one!!!  sheesh!!
ok, 'nuff...'cuz i bet lots of people thought this was going to be some
crazy dream flame or whatnot, and didn't even read it!!
love,
  carol

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date:         fri, 16 jan 1998 23:18:04 -0600
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>i find it very ironic that when ig covers "danny's song" on levees, they
change the gender of the object of love from female to male, when we all
know that it would have been very appropriate left the way it was.


the thing about danny's song is there's that verse that goes:

"...and we've just begun / i think i'm going to have a son / he will be like him & me / conceived in love / the sun is gonna shine above"

kinda hard to sing _that_ about a lesbian relationship, now isn't it?


peace and many happy indigo moments,
barb b.

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when the ig were here in austin, i thot amy said she was talking about a man
at the flea market that used to be here. can anyone vouch for that? was it the
620 flea market or the 290 one???

michelle

in a message dated 98-01-16 22:54:47 est, tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net writes:

> (i think the c-man's shack has devolved into it's surroundings), but we'll
>  travel to lovely bastrop, tx near where amy met the c-man and *look* for
the
>  c-man and his habitat, and we'll play chickenman *real loud* on the stereo
>  and have a good ole' ig time! :)
>          this is a one day dealy.  i'm flexible regarding timing, but the
>  more the merrier!  please respond privately if you are interested in a
>  chickenman road rally :)

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my apologies for nigc and fwbw, but many expressed appreciation for
posting the sarah mclachlan dates. nettwerk has announced sarah's
finalized official spring tour dates:

(no news yet on lilith fair 98 dates - sorry)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
here are the final list of dates. please note the changes to
on-sale dates, as well as added shows:

venue/city/state:                       show            on sale
                                         date:           date:

opera house in spokane, wa              thu/mar-05      sat/jan-17
hult center in eugene, or               fri/mar-06      fri/jan-16
memorial aud. in sacramento, ca         sat/mar-07      sat/jan-31
sjsu events ctr. in san jose, ca        mon/mar-09      sun/feb-01
saroyan theatre in fresno, ca           tue/mar-10      sat/jan-24
bren events ctr. in irvine, ca          wed/mar-11      sat/jan-24
kiva aud. in albuquerque, nm            fri/mar-13      sat/jan-17
austin music hall in austin, tx         sun/mar-15      sat/jan-17
austin music hall in austin, tx         mon/mar-16      sat/jan-17
civic ctr music hall oklahoma city, ok  tue/mar-17      sat/jan-17
stevens auditorium in ames, ia          wed/mar-18      sat/jan-24
palace theatre in louisville, ky        fri/mar-20      sat/jan-24
civic center in asheville, nc           tue/mar-24      sat/jan-17
independence arena in charlotte, nc     wed/mar-25      sat/jan-31
landmark theatre in richmond, va        fri/mar-27      sat/jan-24
towson hall in baltimore, md            sat/mar-28      wed/jan-21
perf. arts ctr. in providence, ri       sun/mar-29      fri/jan-23
oakdale theatre in wallingford, ct      tue/mar-31      sat/jan-24
civic center in portland, me            wed/apr-01      sat/feb-07
marine midland arena in buffalo, ny     sat/apr-04      sat/feb-07
war memorial in rochester, ny           sun/apr-05      sat/feb-07
msu aud. in east lansing, mi            tue/apr-07      sat/jan-24
toledo sports arena in toledo, oh       wed/apr-08      sat/jan-24
the fox theatre in st. louis, mo        thu/apr-09      sat/jan-31
civic music hall in omaha, ne           sat/apr-11      sat/jan-31
civic ctr. theatre in madison, wi       sun/apr-12      sat/jan-31
midland theatre in kansas city, mo      tue/apr-14      sat/jan-31
dobson arena in vail, co                wed/apr-15      sat/jan-31
bank of america ctr. in boise, id       fri/apr-17      fri/jan-23

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 05:19:42 -0500
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hey!  well hardly anyone has written me about the photos.  is that cause y'all
are waiting for the weekend, or lost my address, or did i finally fill all the
request out there?  that would be cool if i were done getting reprints, but i'm
still willing to get them for anyone who still wants them.  the deal was posted
a few days ago, but the details are: 6  4x6 photos  (2 of amy, 2 of em and 2 of
the 2 of them together).  so 6 total reprints for $3 and an sase.  i'm not
charging for the photos.  i just want to be reimbursed for getting the copies i
would send you.  so if there is anyone out there who still wants these, you need
to write me (cause that list i had of all the listees interested in photos last
fall vanished with my old mail program) and let me know so i can send you the
info and my address.

oh and nobody is commenting on my vote.  if you want photos you should vote,
unless you don't care.  but if you do the debate is:

would you rather have a picture of amy with wild headbanging hair and emily
hidden behind a mic stand...

or a cute mean little emily grimace and a side view of amy with normal hair that
doesn't defy gravity?

come on people!  i have only had one person vote so far and she's on the wild
amy hair side, so please voice your opinion, or you're all gonna get a very cool
shot of amy and a mic stand with a guitar peekin' out from behind.

marivel

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okay i guess i'm not going to bed.  i thought i could sleep but apparently when
you stay up past a certain number of hours your body actually forgets how to
sleep, so i'm just gonna post until the urge hits me...

for those of you waiting for boots from me (ny shows, ann arbor and possibly
fargo and missoula too), they are coming.  i've had a horrendous week trying to
prepare for a graduate review thingee that will decide the fate of my future
studies and quite possibly my whole damn career, so i haven't been dubbing
anything the past few days.  but i'm back with a vengeance (i'm gonna get these
things out of my apartment if it kills me!).  and before i can do that i wanted
to ask if anyone has an excessively positive or negative feeling about me
putting some extra stuff on the two boots that i did on 120 min tapes that have
a little space on the end of the second side (maybe 5 or 6 min).  i could leave
it blank or y'all could be really nice to me and let me put a song or two by
this new singer/songwriter, brenda weiler, from my own puny little hometown of
fargo, nd.  she's 19, just released her first cd on a local label barking dog
records (www.barkingdogrecords.com), and is all pretty much solo acoustic.
she's kinda like the daughter that sarah mclachlan and jewel (without the
yodeling) might have together if we ever get that whole ovum union thing down.
i love her voice, and i'm looking to help her out by spreading her stuff a
little further than north dakota (although i'm sure she's got press people who
do it much better than i can).  anyway, for those of you getting the geneseo,
geneva or ann arbor, let me know if you are totally against the idea of me
putting some of this woman's stuff on the end.  you can always erase it if you
hate it!

and to make things interesting i guess i can put something different on each of
the different boots.  i've also got some very cool soundcheck stuff (ig), but
i'd rather do a combination of the two.  what do y'all think?  do ya mind?  if
nobody writes me i'm gonna assume it's cool...

marivel

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 08:35:31 -0500
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hey everyone!

thanks to marivel, i went to check out barking dog records... and ended
up stumbling across an artist (which i don't remember anyone knowing
about or mentioning... my apologies if they have though...) who is
covering an ig tune!

okay, go here...
http://www.barkingdogrecords.com/raptor.studios.artists.html

scroll down and read about sarah morrau... she covers the tune
"fare thee well"... wonder if it's any good?

okay, that's it...
twink!
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in a message dated 98-01-16 01:19:40 est, bcmassga@bluffton.edu writes:

<< it's terrible to sit here and read some of the things people are saying to
one another. >>

this dream thing is nothing compared to some of the cat fighting i've seen on
this list in the last year or so.  i've come to the conclusion it's just part
of being on this list or any list - you just never know when some innocent
remark of yours is going to piss somebody off or offend the list police, and
you just have to deal with it.  my advice has always been to disagree but in a
respectful way, but hey, we haven't all learned how to do that yet, and that's
fine.  you just have to keep in mind that it's all geared toward not offending
a and e, who seriously guard their privacy.  y'all take care, and you
northeasterners, hang in there!

bonnie

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 09:33:17 est
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in a message dated 98-01-16 22:27:37 est, s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu
writes:

<<  i can't wait to blast "reunion" on my
way home from my first high school reunion.  i'll be laughing at all the
fake people all the way home!  >>

what some of y'all may be missing about the whole high school experience is
that everybody has a tough time as an adolescent, not just those of us with a
lot of angst.  even the most popular and social kids are struggling, that's
just part of the h.s. thing.  my 20 yr. reunion is this summer, and i'm
excited because i noticed at the 15 that those of us that felt like we were
losers were now all cool and together and at peace, and those that were oh so
popular and together pretty much reached the peak of their life in h.s.  how
sad for them..  it really put it all in perspective for me.  there's no need
to be angry about it, because everything evens out as you go through life.

bonnie

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 09:01:57 -0600
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subject:      very littl igc, but theres a tie in(starbucks)
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when ever i listen to the girls i make it a point to brew a fresh pot of
starbucks house blend.. problem is..i just now ground my last
bean...sad..but true
does any one on the list know the website for the starbucks mail order
page...
if i get it by mail( shuddup,,thats not what i was talkin about ;)  )
then i won't have to  go shopping  with dee into order to stop at the
'bucks store and get my beans..
if any one knows the site..can ya e-mail me
thanks

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 12:23:40 -0500
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subject:      nigc kelly hogan
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kelly hogan also has a solo album out...i can't remember what label or
the title right now- maybe its on long play? or not.

sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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ohhhhh yeahhhh!!!  my first song that i heard the girls play in concert had to
be the most amazing song they do . . . my opinion.  secure yourself.  wow!!
it was just the two of them, no band, and was it ever so beautiful.  it
touched me so much . . . i was amazed at the thought of just being there.
incredible!!!!!!!!  i will never forget that concert.  what an amazing night.
okay so i was so excited just to be there, i looked like your typical kid in a
candy store.  *sigh*  so that is my first song at an ig concert.  thanks for
reading!!!!

jillian :-)

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 11:48:58 -0800
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subject:      least flattering pic of amy...
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someone mentioned a really bad picture of amy at a new years party...could
someone forward it to me?

thanx,
celeste

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 15:01:51 -0600
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check your local listings, set your vcr's, it is official the girls will be
on austin city limits on february 28th (it's on pbs).  they will be joined
by vonda shepard, freedy johnston (i love freedy!) and mark eitzel, a
performance by kim richey will also be part of the episode.  she is great,
sorta country/folk i guess...but good country.  if you want to see all this
in writing yourself  check out acl's site at www.klru.org/acl/

    kc1
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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 16:07:48 -0500
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hey all!

well i'm so glad someone is checking out the website.  imho it's always good to
let people know that more is going on in fargo than stupid accents and tractor
pulls.  umm.  yeah i think i know a little about that person you are looking at
that does "fare the well".  if i am getting the right information (entirely
possible i am *not*) i think she performs around town with another man backing
her up (possibly a husband or boyfriend) and they do several ig covers...emily
songs like wood song, ftw, etc.  i've never heard them, but i hear they actually
sound quite good (even though it is a *man* singin' precious amy's part!).  to
bad they don't have wav files up so you could hear some of the stuff first, huh?
maybe if you all barrage (?) them with requests they'll get some up. ooor you
could listen to the end of one of my boots and hear some of the wonderful brenda
weiler on your very own stereo!  yay!!!

and the update on the thing about me adding some stuff (brenda and some ig
soundcheck stuff) to the end of those 3 boots is pretty much being decided by
one lovely person who remembered to vote.  she doesn't mind.  so unless you do
and e-mail me quick, i'm gonna start dubbing the stuff on there this afternoon.
wait it's already afternoon.  okay this evening.  it's been a rough week...

marivel

"i like being gay.  but i would
like being straight if i were            "i wrecked it!  i wrecked it!
straight too. i like it you know.         i'm a human recital wrecker!!!"
i like the idea of having intimate
relationships with anybody."                       --arthur read

               --a. ray

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 17:37:15 -0500
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hey all,

just had to share my good fortune.  i went to a thrift store today and
found a promo copy of the sots single for 2 bucks!  what a find, huh? i
was pumped.  never know what you'll find in those places.  also, got a
hold of a local radio station's (the coast) sampler cd and it has a song
(grace) by michelle malone on it!  i thought that was pretty cool!

staci

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 18:47:04 est
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does anybody have an extra copy or can get an extra copy of that target
starter cd...i have looked all over the dc metropolitan area and can't find
it...

or if anyone from the list in the dc area knows of a store i can it at, i
would appreciate it... thanks :)

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 19:19:53 est
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thanks guys!

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 19:36:42 est
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subject:      re: gems of em!
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this might have been mentioned already, i haven't been keeping up with all my
mail lately, but what about the very beginning of midnight train (don't like
the song, but...)  where em goes "oooooooooooooooooooo l.a...." i love that
ooooooooo part! i'm crazy! :)
dana

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 19:42:21 -0500
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here's some interesting advertising from cd now. ig included :)

"a history of the women's music movement." go back to the roots and
discover a history of great women artists.
go to: http://cdnow.com/article_women/from=con

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 11:48:47 +1100
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hey folks,

just got word that the second indigo girls show in melbourne
(on feb 22) has been announced and is going onsale monday
(tomorrow) through ticketmaster.  this is great news, since
we'd all but given up hope of a second concert at all due to
poor ticket sales.

this caps off a great couple of days for me - yesterday i got
dar williams tickets as well as finding a "galileo" cd single
for two dollars.  does life get any better than this?

*grin*
sherlyn
ps - tickets for the dar williams/ani difranco show (dan bern
will *not* be on the tour after all) in brisbane go on sale
monday as well.
pps - i've only heard from about three people who got
inadvertently kicked off the list by the confirmation mechanism.
are there any more of you out there?

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"when you wake up from this night, oh yes there'll be a morning;
the sun's gonna be shining bright, with new ideas dawning.
and when you wake up from this night, we'll start a new beginning,
show the earth her due respect, create new laws for living..."
                                - sally fingerett

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tampa bay performing arts center, 1989...
just the girls, not even a guitar tech!  they had all of their guitars (about
5, if memory serves) set out on the stage before the show.  my friend billy
finelli and i walked up to the stage before the show and he told all about
each kind of guitar (amy's black martin looked brand new!!).
girls came out, tuned up, and busted into "closer to fine".  we were both
surprised that they played it first, since it was "the" song then.
and it rocked!!
~~robin

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 19:35:09 -0600
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hi,
i'd like to send you money for copies of the pics. i vote for the
headbanging hair.
thanks
lani

marivel danielson wrote:

> hey!  well hardly anyone has written me about the photos.  is that
> cause y'all
> are waiting for the weekend, or lost my address, or did i finally fill
> all the
> request out there?  that would be cool if i were done getting
> reprints, but i'm
> still willing to get them for anyone who still wants them.  the deal
> was posted
> a few days ago, but the details are: 6  4x6 photos  (2 of amy, 2 of em
> and 2 of
> the 2 of them together).  so 6 total reprints for $3 and an sase.  i'm
> not
> charging for the photos.  i just want to be reimbursed for getting the
> copies i
> would send you.  so if there is anyone out there who still wants
> these, you need
> to write me (cause that list i had of all the listees interested in
> photos last
> fall vanished with my old mail program) and let me know so i can send
> you the
> info and my address.
>
> oh and nobody is commenting on my vote.  if you want photos you should
> vote,
> unless you don't care.  but if you do the debate is:
>
> would you rather have a picture of amy with wild headbanging hair and
> emily
> hidden behind a mic stand...
>
> or a cute mean little emily grimace and a side view of amy with normal
> hair that
> doesn't defy gravity?
>
> come on people!  i have only had one person vote so far and she's on
> the wild
> amy hair side, so please voice your opinion, or you're all gonna get a
> very cool
> shot of amy and a mic stand with a guitar peekin' out from behind.
>
> marivel
>
> "i like being gay.  but i would
>  like being straight if i were            "i wrecked it!  i wrecked
> it!
>  straight too. i like it you know.         i'm a human recital
> wrecker!!!"
>  i like the idea of having intimate
>  relationships with anybody."                       --arthur read
>
>                --a. ray
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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 22:06:01 est
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hi ya'll -

okay this is total nigc, and i'm sorry!! but this is the deal- i'm currently
knee-deep in the beginning of a huge story and i'm seeking the advice of
someone who reads tarot cards. i have very little experience with them and
would really appreciate a couple of tips with regards to the story i'm
writing...  so, if there's anyone out there who's interested in lending me a
hand as it were, please e-mail me privately. :)

thanks & sorry for the lack of ig content... they do rule, though. ;)
  rick

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in a message dated 98-01-06 22:47:01 est, you write:

<< like many here i'm very happy sots got nominated.  i can't say i really
care whether they win.  i'm not a big fan of setting up artificial
competitions between works of art (even assuming the judges were
reasonably informed - a whole nother problem). >>

i just have to say that "a whole nother" is my very favorite colloquialism!

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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 20:00:03 -0800
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does anyone know why i can't get to this? i tried to, but it said that it
timed out...could someone tell me what to do? i may seem sick, but i really
wanna see this picture

thanx again,
celeste

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speaking of "midnight train to ga", does anyone have a clue as to what the
lyrics are when she says,
"so he __________ his house/and he eee-eeven sold his old car/and bought a
one-way ticket back..." etc.  i am totally baffled each time i listen to
it!!!   does anyone know?????????

that's all for tonight--love y'all :)

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*i love mh!*

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"i don't suffer from insanity.  i enjoy every minute of it."

"we sit here in our storm and drink a toast to the slim chance of love's
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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 01:40:15 -0800
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since i have no life, i just wanted to say hi to everyone...
and if there's anyhting that you want to tell a complete stranger...go ahead!
or if there's any news that i might not know about...........(well, you get
the picture)

thanx, celeste
pax

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ok, i just saw the list of sarah mclachlan dates that was posted, and
i'm in shock...she's going to be in towson (just north of baltimore, md,
same town as me) on *the same night that i've got michelle malone booked
to play*-march 28. how could they do that to me? i've been planning this
for months, picked the perfect date for a lot of people i know who want
to roadtrip, was going to announce it in a couple of weeks, when
everything is confirmed. *please* i need to hear from people saying that
they'd be willing to show up for a nice intimate affordable michelle
show instead of sarah m's tour...

sarah
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responding to the message of <971109025206_-89305082@mrin84.mail.aol.com>
from shel1018@aol.com:
>
> "i'm traveling in some vehicle,
>  i'm sitting in some cafe
>  ...
>  i know no one's gonna show me everything
>  we all come and go unknown
>  each so deep and superficial
>  between the forceps and the stone..."
>
> its a joni mitchell cover.  i know its on hejira, but my copy of that seems to
> be awol so am not sure what the title is; "song for sharon" or "song for the
> open road" or "refuge from the road" or something like that. . .
> peace,
> shelley
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hey can someone help me out quick?  i asked this a long time ago, but i'm
putting it on the end of the geneva boot and would like to be refreshed on what
the title is cause i wanna get the insert right.  so is the title of the song
"hejira"???  cause that's all anyone told me the first time.  just hejira.  but
if that's really only the title of the album, then i'd really like the title of
the *song*.  please!!!  these things need to start going out *today* and i'd
really hate to have to write "some joni mitchell song".  thanks!


marivel

"so finally i've decided to leave my doubts behind
it doesn't matter what they say
i've found something most people never find."

                         --brenda weiler "5,000 miles"

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 11:02:10 -0600
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>speaking of "midnight train to ga", does anyone have a clue as to what the
>lyrics are when she says,
>"so he __________ his house/and he eee-eeven sold his old car/and bought a
>one-way ticket back..." etc.  i am totally baffled each time i listen to
>it!!!   does anyone know?????????


in mttga, the lyrics (or part of them) are as follows:
        so he sold all his hopes
        and he even sold his old car
        and bought a one way ticket back...etc

hope this helps!
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can someone in the indigo girls fan club please email me privately at
remlover11@aol.com


thanks,
chrisy

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 13:47:50 -0600
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hey y'all!  i have a quick request for all of you with web pages out
there.  i want to compile a list of links to good ig pictures on the web
for my new page, and i was hoping y'all would help.  if you have a good
picture or two on your page, or you know where one exists, drop me a line
and let me know where it is, ok?  i'll even give ya groovy credits on my
page.  :)

thanks!

sue
harne001@bama.ua.edu or s_harney@hotmail.com

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 15:06:59 est
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i know this a complete delayed reaction, but is there anyone out there who
would be willing to make me a copy of the ppv great woods thing?  i would be
willing to send a blank, reimburse, whatever.  thanks in advance.

~kelly
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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 15:06:15 -0500
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quick question:

i ordered a swamp ophelia t-shirt to replace one that got mutilated and got
it in the mail the other day.  i threw it in the laundry to wash and upon
putting it on today noticed that the print is very crooked by at least an
inch or more.  this is my first time getting merch. that is 'flawed'...has
anyone else ever tried to return anything to russell carter and how did you
do it?  is there a number i can call to speak with a human in charge of this
stuff?

thanks,
catherine

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 15:22:57 +0000
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hey everyone!!

i wanted to get the word out that i have a web page up with a few neat
things on it includidng my picture with amy and my little invention of "all
i need to know about life i learned from the indigo girls"  feel free to
check it out and let me know what you think!

www.muohio.edu/~hiterj

thanks
rob
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date:         sat, 17 jan 1998 08:47:37 -0500
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did anyone else get some junk mail just now over e-mail?

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robert arkin wrote:
>
> did anyone else get some junk mail just now over e-mail?
>

  - yeah, everybody on the list, ... consider yourself spammed :)
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oops, the first time i sent it was to ".edu" instead of ".org," sorry if you
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newport folk fest, 1996.
amy was behind the fence listening to, i think it was michelle shocked, but i
don't remeber. it was right before they were about to play. anyway, someone
told me she was there, and i busted up front to see her. there was this woman
who it looked like everyone was pointing at, and saying "that's amy" she had
spikey black hair and was thinner than any. i was like, "that's amy?' nd was
unimpressed, more shoked, becasue it was nothing that i'd expected. but then
the spikey black hair moved forward, uncovering the face i knew so well from
the watershed ideo. i buseted out crying. i felt so dorkey, but all of these
really butch women who were soooooooo cute kept pointing and saying how cute i
was, like they knew that i ws a newbie

i was standing on a cooler to see then when they first came out to the stage.
the first footstep made me cry again. i balled all the way through least
complicated, which was their first song. i kind of missed it, so did everyone
around me because they were fixated on the highschool girl with long hair and
freedom rings bhalling at the sigh og the girls. my mom and i drove to hampton
beach the next day to see them again becasue i felt like i'd missed so much.
we [aid 140 dollars for the tix becasue we had to scalp them. it was worth it.
they opened with woodsong that night. i stayed composed there.

long enough?
-liz

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i'm not sure if this thread has worn out, but there's a long list of
covers i'd like to hear a&e sing. actually, i love their voices so much
that the list is likely to include any song i like, which makes for a
*very* long list, but i'll just name a few here (and i 2nd most of those
posted so far, especially the concrete blonde stuff).

-rainy night house by joni mitchell, with em singing lead. i know joni
seems like an obvious choice, and there are more obscure covers i'd like
to hear, but i think they would do a great job on a jazzy miles of
aisles version.

-let me roll it by paul mccartney - i've noticed a few fans on the list.
i think amy would sound great on lead, and then there's that wail at the
end... :)

-comin' back to me by jefferson airplane - just a beautiful song, either
one would sound good on lead.

to the person who suggested the beatles' i'm looking through you, i
definitely 2nd that, and add i've just seen a face, ticket to ride,
things we said today, norwegian wood and strawberry fields forever
[em could sing that one :)].

and then there's bob dylan - meet me in the morning, queen jane
approximately... i could list a bunch of those too, so let me go on to
the next comment.

re: the swamp ophelia line. touch me fall was the song i was listening
to when i decided that after 15 years, maybe the beatles were not quite
my favorite band anymore. (gotta get over this hierarchical thinking,
but that's another story). anyway, i did notice the so line, and i love
the way amy sings it, but i really love em's harmony there, those high
notes... i think they both have gorgeous voices, but it's those
harmonies that i can't stop listening to.

lest you think all i want to hear is covers, i'll just say that right
now i'm in the fortunate position of being able to go back and
rediscover all those earlier ig songs that i sort of skipped over when i
first heard them - it's like hearing new songs. this time through,
there's not one i don't like... don't know what my deal was before.

that's it for now. take care ya'll.
sandy

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 20:08:47 est
reply-to:     "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      license plate i-de-uhs

--- you wrote:
i was interested in getting a ca license plate so i did an online search and
even though i've never seen an actual ig license plate a lot of them are
spoken for.  the following come up when i do a search on indigo:    indigo
indigog     indigos     indigoz   amongst others. also ndgogrl is taken.  so
if anyone has any ideas for a plate email me privately.
--- end of quote ---

i really like "gogrrl" myself, but i think its' just a little too flashy for
the conservative place i work. plus i know i'll get alll these wacky "thumbs
up" on the road from other go-grrls!

here's an interesting little topic...anjeanette and i were discussing one day
how we seem to get "stalked" when i (or she) is driving in my car with the ig
bumper sticker on it (ggod english, sus!). sometimes people....mpstly girlies,
hee hee..... slow down, tail us, and/or look over to see who we are. because
they know we are *coolio*. and i'm just doubtful it's cause i'm some hot little
number, altho anj is ;)

it's the sticker, i'm tellin ya! anyone have similar tailgaters?

xo, sus

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 12:16:06 +1100
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hey folks,

just a reminder, tickets for the second melbourne ig show
went on sale this morning.  we got second row, yeah!

tickets for dar williams and ani difranco in melbourne also
went on sale today, as did dar/ani tickets for brisbane.

here's something i've been thinking about for awhile but
never got around to posting before: indigo classifieds.
what songs/lyrics can we turn into newspaper ads?

for example, from "jonas and ezekial":
found: 1 emotion (rage or possibly anger), found in river
near highway 5 nh/vt.

wanted: reservations or native lands.

make money fast!  call "profits in the graveyard" for a
free brochure.

anyone have any others? :)

back to work for me -
sherlyn
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okay, so i just got on the mailing list a couple of days ago.  but from what i
can figure, someone has been talking about their first ig song in concert.  i
don't know if anyone is interested in a first ig concert experience or not,
but
i think i have a great one.
the first time i saw then was by far the best experience of my life.  the
world
was on my side that night although it didn't appear that it was going to be
when we set off for the concert that morning.  my ex took me to see them for
our one year anniversary on june 13 earlier this year.  we had to drive what
ended up being eight hours to get to kettering, ohio (suburb of dayton) where
the concert was.  we left murray (kentucky, my home town) without tickets
assuming that the sold out concert wasn't really sold out.  when we got there,
we realized that we were wrong.  but to our advantage, the fraze pavilion is a
beautiful, wonderful place with incredible acoustics.  what you have to have a
ticket for is just the  seating -- concessions and bathrooms were outside.
and
all of these people without tickets had their blankets on the beautifully
landscaped rolling hills to listen to the concert free of charge.  i wasn't
exactly thrilled with this set up at the beginning.
they started playing, i started crying.  they opened with mystery.  it sounded
just like the version on 1200 curfews.  i could hear them, but i couldn't see
them.  that made me crazy!
eventually i got over it and we started walking around.  blah.  blah.  blah.
eventually we got thirsty and we went to the concession stand only to be
stopped by guards who told us that we couldn't get anything to drink because
the concession stand was closed.  we were pissed.  we found a water fountain
and decided to go and sit down.  i was hating the world at this point.  i
couldn't get in to see them, i couldn't get anything to drink, and other bad
things had happened earlier in the day.  then this woman steps out in front of
us and says, "would you like to try a new drink by michelob?  it's called
josta..."and she tells us about it, and we take it from her.  and it's cold.
and it's fruity.  and it's carbonated.  i was just overwhelmed with the fact
that we were thirsty and we got drink.  that immediately put me in a better
mood.  i was so amazed at karma.  we started having a good time.  we were
listening to the concert which i finally realized was better than not being
able to even listen to it.  we were laughing and dancing and loving life.
then
this couple walked up to us, and they said, "we are leaving.  would you like
our tickets?"  i started crying and all but promised this woman any future
children i might have for giving me the opportunity to see the girls.  we
started walking to the gate.  and i knew that we were walking closer to it,
but
it was like a movie moment where the closer you get, the further away you
realize you are.  i felt like i was walking through the gates of heaven to lay
my eyes upon god.  we finally make it to the gate.  we hand them our tickets,
and they let us in.  we walked in during "land of canaan."  we walked up, laid
our eyes upon the stage, amy turned around, i saw her ass, and my life has not
been the same since.
sorry if that was too long, but i just had to share.  and i have a question,
the second time i saw them they seemed to be pissed at each other and the
concert sucked.  has anyone else noticed that?
well, that's all for now.  thanks for reading.  jessica

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speaking of the girls singing songs about "he"s instead of "she"s - how about
the blue food boot with "i wanna be your lover" on it?  seems to be rather
gender-specific - about a guy?!?
just a thought...

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 21:33:27 est
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hi - i haven't heard anything lately about the bumper sticker thing - is that
a dead idea now?  well, flying on a nice big airplane from disaster-struck
maine to sunny california (i can't believe i'm missing the la concert by a
week!!!) i saw in ad in the flight magazine for "design your own tattoo" or
something like that.  here's the scoop:  you design the tattoo, pay $200 and
get 1000 fake tattoos, 2" by 2".
sounds like a good idea, no?  i think it's awesome - i was thinking we could
get the list going on this - amy's arm tattoo? or just one that says "indigo
girls" or something?
let me/the list know if this is a good idea.  i don't know if i can be the one
to orchestrate it, though.
zanks!
~flora

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while driving around in the dc metropolitan area and beyond, my g/f and i have
been subject to many occurances of people tailgating us...and honking at us
etc

who knows why...for me it's either the fact i have a big blue and white ig
sticker on my back windshield

or the fact i have a texas rainbow pride sticker

or it can be because people are trying to figure out exactly what kind of car
i drive...
(for some reason you don't see many tiburons in no. va)

as for my g/f...she's got the same ig sticker, a pride flag sticker, and a
disappear fear sticker on the back of her rav

who knows..

i'm rambling...

i'll shuddup

heather
who loves to tailgate people with

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 21:53:36 -0500
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subject:      winthrop

i have a question for you all, about winthrop.  does anybody know exactly
when it was written, cuz i was always under the impression that it was
written after shaming came out, but now i see on the lifeblood lyrics
that she was performing it in august of 1996.  also, does anybody think
that the whole fish analogy is really funny...i feel bad laughing at the
song (i really like it...so don't be flaming me), but whenever i hear the
lines "words fall off like breathless fish/all flopping and scattered/and
hearts picked over deemed dispensible" i can't help but to giggle.  ok,
anybody else have thoughts about this?

love,
carolyn

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all the world is lost to me and all the world is found
all the world is echoing my lonely wandering sound
i hear it all together now, i wish that i had known
that if we sing the same song we cannot be alone...

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i too am a young newbie to the list in search of an opportunity to express
myself to you guys...my first time seeing the girls live (dec 16 in miami at
lilith) was undoubtedly the highpoint of my music-listening career.  ive only
been an ig fan for just over a year, but their music touches me so deeply and
grabs hold and will not let go...wherever they go they take my heart with
them.  a hundred feet from them i sang and danced 4 the first time in my life
in any sort of public place, completely enthralled in the atmosphere, the
sound, and the crowd so into it...not to mention the tears streaming down my
face and im sure many others.  the concert tickets were a gift from my
girlfriend (we're not out, so technically we're "best friends") and that night
was one of our most amazing together.  it wasnt just the romance, or the
love...it was the inspiration nd the guidance the girls have brough to my
life. (gawd this must sound corny!)  anyway, sorry but i had to vent that to
somebody...thanx 4 reading! :)

~cinn

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carolyn <ceturett@juno.com> wrote:

===============
also, does anybody think that the whole fish analogy is really
funny...i feel bad laughing at the song (i really like it...so don't
be flaming me), but whenever i hear the lines "words fall off like
breathless fish/all flopping and scattered/and hearts picked over deemed
dispensible" i can't help but to giggle.  ok,
anybody else have thoughts about this?
===============

umm... no, i don't think it's funny.

the entire song uses the lives and experiences of the fishermen in the
town of winthrop as analogies to describe a dying romantic relationship.

i think the song is both heart-breaking and achingly beautiful.

i'll never forget the first time i heard it (and i believe it was also
the first time emily performed it publicly [re: her false start: "oh, i
fucked it up!"]) at newport ff 96. after the song ended, i had to
collect myself before applauding, because i was so moved.

:o)
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"several pairs of shoes found on bank near talking river."
   - shame on you

"have you seen me?  missing:  joni.  last known location:
south africa.  if you have any information please call."
   - get out the map

"salvage team forming immediately to help in retrieving personal
effects lost on the ss "ship of safety" which sank less than 1 mile
offshore.  one known survivor recounts her story..."
   - closer to fine

"come and see madame mazoola perform her mystical tricks with the
flame.  a mixture of soil, blood and incense creates the magical
delight.  watch as she gazes into it seeking answers to longing
questions that lie in your path.  behold a safe haven from anger,
a house of love, a love that never grows tired.  come and see
madame mazoola's strange fire this saturday!  only $5.00/person!
you'll pay for the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge!"

- rick

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 22:41:19 -0500
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on sun, 18 jan 1998 22:20:34 -0500 mel <melsouth@mindspring.com> writes:
>umm... no, i don't think it's funny.
>
>the entire song uses the lives and experiences of the fishermen in the
>town of winthrop as analogies to describe a dying romantic
>relationship.
>
>i think the song is both heart-breaking and achingly beautiful.

ok, i already see that i'm being taken in the wrong way...i know the song
is not funny...i know that it is sad, and it makes me feel that way, but
i was just commenting that the "flopping and scattered" line is a bit
humorous.  i know the rest of the song is anything but, and i appreciate
that, but....geez, ok, forget it all.  i'll shut up.

carolyn

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 20:10:16 pst
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hey y'all!!!

i've gotten a bit bored watching the spice girls movie special on mtv so
i thought i'd add my .02 about some of the more recent threads....

first song at my first concert.... it was at colby college last april,
before sots had been released.... as a whole, i didn't like the show as
much as the other 2 i've been to since... i had gotten there late and my
ga seats sucked... and i wasn't familiar with a lot of shaming besides
soy...anyway.... they opened with reunion.... as soon as i heard amy "i
had guards...." i melted... tears... the friends i was with  thought i
was one twisted chick. it was incredible though. i've had better ig
moments though.... i went to the bates show with two of my best
friends...we all came out to eachother that past summer and silly as it
seems, when the three of us put our arms around eachother and belted out
the lines: "hate me 'cause i'm different, hate me 'cause i'm gay" was
one of those feel good moments. (laughing at myself--- i sound like such
a sap here!!!)
then there was the boston show...which i have rambled about enough...
but... seeing amy perform romeo & juliet for the first time... ahhh....

<smooth transition into thread #2> sexy amy lines.... i know this thread
is kind of old but hey....   my favorite is during language or the kiss
when she comes in at the end on "oh mercy....",   and then "you and me
of the 10,000 wars" , especially the version on back on the bus... i
love amy's whole harmony! (i love that song!!!) but if i was forced to
pick, i think my favorite is "is there ever anything else that makes us
take our different sides"...
and emily lines.... whoever mentioned the "ooooooo l.a."  from midnight
train - i love that line... and on 1200 curfews, "mystery"... i love the
way she kind of growls (maybe not "growls"...um) the end of "she's a
very good listener..rrrrrr..rrrr"  you know???

i'm watching janis joplin on vh1 now... what about amy doing "piece of
my heart"????  i can totally see that!!!! damn! that would be sooo
excellent!!!!!!!  hmmmmm.....oh, yeah, and this thought came to mind
while i was listening to the jcs tape (thanks twink and barb!!! :)
when em has that really high part on "what's the buzz" i thought of em
doing the bee gees "stayin' alive"  (i'm joking folks... well, i
seriously thought that.... but do i really think it would make a good
cover...well...)

anyway......  there's another rare becca rambling....maybe this will
become a more common occurence.... (if you're lucky....) hehe!

think i need sleep????
sweet dreams!
becks

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 21:32:08 -0700
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subject:      re: license plate i-de-uhs
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on sun, 18 jan 1998, susan b. marine wrote:

> --- you wrote:
> i was interested in getting a ca license plate so i did an online search and
> even though i've never seen an actual ig license plate a lot of them are
> spoken for.  the following come up when i do a search on indigo:    indigo
>  indigog     indigos     indigoz   amongst others. also ndgogrl is taken.  so
> if anyone has any ideas for a plate email me privately.
> --- end of quote ---
>
> i really like "gogrrl" myself, but i think its' just a little too flashy for
> the conservative place i work. plus i know i'll get alll these wacky "thumbs
> up" on the road from other go-grrls!
>
> here's an interesting little topic...anjeanette and i were discussing one day
> how we seem to get "stalked" when i (or she) is driving in my car with the ig
> bumper sticker on it (ggod english, sus!). sometimes people....mpstly girlies,
> hee hee..... slow down, tail us, and/or look over to see who we are. because
> they know we are *coolio*. and i'm just doubtful it's cause i'm some hot little
> number, altho anj is ;)
>
> it's the sticker, i'm tellin ya! anyone have similar tailgaters?
>
> xo, sus
>
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someone with an indigo sticker you have to tailgate in hopes of catching
a rare glimpse of someone of your own kind. just be careful of the overly
enthused fans who will run you off the road trying to get your attention.

alayna

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 23:36:20 est
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in a message dated 98-01-18 21:59:14 est, cinnamon06@aol.com writes:

<< my first time seeing the girls live (dec 16 in miami at
lilith) was undoubtedly the highpoint of my music-listening career.  >>

yeah!! i agree with you there- it was one of my favorite ig shows ever.

(okay out of 4- i haven't seen 'em too much yet!!)

my first ig song at my first ig show:  new orleans jazz fest - may of 96.

the song was reunion, which i love. i had been standing in the exact same spot
(near the moo sign at the front of the stage... who else was there...
kristina, claire, karen, eric, carolyn... joe was there but i didn't know that
till the ig show in west palm last september... bert was there, too!) i had
stood there through michelle shocked, some other band, and could feel the
sunburn happening... but i had come all the way from miami for this and when
they took the stage (with michael lorant & sheila doyle) i was shaking with
excitement. :) two nights later i saw them again with joan baez & joan osborne
at the uno stadium & i felt exactly the same... :-) basically, anytime i'm in
the vicinity of a&e i'm incredibly happy & content. this is their power, to
bring joy to people & to shine a little light in the dark.

finally, thanks to all who responded regarding my request for assistance with
the tarot reading. :) it's appreciated!!

peace,
  rick
keeper of random thoughts & delirium, gay tripper, buffy addict
struggling whatever, pop culture junkie, michelle malone fan!!
http://members.aol.com/rbsayre/rick.html
*if the world is night, shine my life like a light* -emily saliers

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 20:38:06 -0800
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okay, i'm watching tv on a saturday (yes, i usually do have a life.) it
has just occurred to me that these awards shows have to be the most
shallow insipid things on the planet. okay, let's glorify ourselves just a
little more. it's not like we make enough money as it is!
i hope there aren't too many little girls out there watching these kind of
programs and thinking these actors and actresses are the best example of
people we have to offer. i'm sure most of them are perfectly nice people,
but i would prefer my little girl to admire someone with real character,
who makes a real difference, and believes in what they do. oh, this sounds
pretty fuddy-duddy i'm sure, but the drooling admiration most people have
for movie stars makes me sick. i live in l.a. and see celebrities around
quite often, and i don't need to know if they're wearing a valentino or a
versace. for god's sake, cash in the dress and feed some homeless people.

okay, off that soapbox. on a different note altogether, i received my copy
of curve via a listee (thanks rodney!) and loved the articles and
pictures. i also found it interesting because i'd never read a lesbian
magazine before. i am an art major and am always interested in seeing
creative works and if they do or do not represent their creators well.
anyway, i just want to say that being on this list and getting exposure to
that kind of life, different from my own, has been very eye-opening and
educating.  i don't take everything as gospel, and i don't want to make a
big deal of this, but thanks to all of you out there for sharing your
beliefs and lives with the list. although i may not write very often, i am
always listening! :)

luv emily

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 20:54:47 -0800
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okay, i have to amend that tirade a little after that award transfer to
jack lemmon. pretty amazing, for hollywood. it's good to know there are a
few good hearts out there in tinseltown.


feeling a little guilty..
emily

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reply-to:     carol & sarah <chickenwomyn@hotmail.com>
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boy, do i really wish i had known them better at the time.  i was only
familiar with the 10 songs that jill c. had put on a tape (but i sure
did know those 10 songs).  the first song was (apparently...after seeing
a setlist months later) tried to be true.  i remember liking it, and
enjoying it...but i didn't know it.    i had a  wow, this is fun, but i
have no clue what i'm listening to.  mind you, it was still enjoyable,
even with the 4 songs of the 21 played.  i like to know songs i hear at
concerts, because i can compare.  i had a permanent smile...a blissful
something.
i was slightly distracted however...it turns out my swim coach was
there, and i told jill that i bet she's here (i saw some old ig sticker
on her car years ago), and well she was.  as i was didcribing my coach
to her...bam!!  there she was.  so yeah, i asked where she was sitting
etc.  she was sitting nearly right in front of me!  i was highly
distractd by what i though was a crazy coincidence.  but then again, at
the lilith in columbus, i had an even scarier coincidence (you may ask,
if you like).
when i saw them later, i noticed that they weren't as energetic at the
first concert, but the setlist was really cool @ blossom.  heck, they
played another song after closer to fine (kid fears).  anyway...they
hooked me, and it was cool.  i diddn't cry though...i hadn't so much
fallen in love yet, or had been waiting for years to see them.  it was
just great.

love,
  carol

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 21:23:09 -0800
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all these stories about first songs at first concerts are making me
hyper!  in one week, i will experience my first ig concert, and i can't
contain myself!!!  all your stories are describing exactly what i've
imagined it would be like to see the girls, and i can't wait!!!  and who
was it that said they've *only* been to 4?--wow, i'm jealous! :)
i just had to say all that in efforts to avoid annoying my housemates
with my hyperness (i figured it would be slightly less annoying if i
express my excitement on the computer to people who can share my sentiments). :)
leslie

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date:         sun, 18 jan 1998 22:28:31 -0800
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hello everyone,

well the first song i heard and my first indigo girls concert (dec 1987)
was american tune at the providence civic center in ri opening up for rem -
they sang it in the dark and it sounded beautiful!!!!  i also saw them
perform american tune at the ben an jerry's folk festival in 1990 and once
again they were incredible - simon and garfunkle would be proud.

thanks,
marybeth

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 00:43:29 -0000
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hi all,

the indigo classified thing reminds me of a poster from rop that looks
like a classified ad from a newspaper that says "rites of passage" over
and over again.


my $.02,
allison

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 00:44:14 -0500
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subject:      my into and my quest

hey, kind friends...

so, i've been lurking on the list for quite some time. (and i owe a couple of
dubs, even!) and i've had some great email chats with list members, and have
even made a few great arrangements for show, too.

and i've never introduced myself! much less talked about doing a longtime
fantasy of following the girls tour.

so, now i will. my name's robin sweeney, i go by rob, and i'm a big ole
indigo girls fan. i have been since 1990, when i first heard their first
album.

i live in the san francisco bay area, with my home in oakland with my sweetie
and her child, who i coparent. i'm a writer, an activist, and almost through
my saturn return.

and, i'm seeing the girls in seattle. twice. portland. (thanks, chiqhiker!!!)
sf. santa barbara, la, san diego... and phoenix.

yes, i'm going on the road, following the band. you see, i'm a deadhead who
never followed the boys, athough i always wanted to. major life regret, not
touring. once jerry died, i vowed to never pass up a chance like that, again.

and, because of a truly beneficent universe, i get to.

so..... wooooohoooo! i'm so excited, and can hardly believe i'm doing this.
all you igheads along the way... look for the darkhaired, big, dancing bear
hat and glasses wearing woman dancing like a crazed weasel.

that'll be me. say hi.

and watch this space... more excited babble to come.

cheers--- rob

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in a message dated 98-01-19 00:24:27 est, holeman@cats.ucsc.edu writes:

<<  and who
was it that said they've *only* been to 4?--wow, i'm jealous! :) >>

that was me- i think the *only* was sort of a result of being a close personal
friend of atlanta's hostess with the mostest- lisa dupre- who's seen...
approximately a zillion shows so far. <grin> therefore my *only* four. ;)

hee hee hee!! have fun at your first concert, leslie!! be sure to tell us all
how it is. :)

ig thought- today while making a (really cool) mix tape for said close
personal friend, i had love will come to you playing on the stereo & my bud
(who was knee-deep in winged demons at the time- playing tomb raider doncha
know) exclaimed- indigo girls!! and (attempted) to sing along. :) i was proud,
because the only other music she recognizes is abba and holly palmer (and even
then she has no clue what the name is & often thinks it's my beloved ani
difranco!).

i don't know why i posted that, i just thought it was neat. :)

peace,
rick
who can't turn the world on with his smile!!

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 01:38:41 -0500
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carolyn <ceturett@juno.com> wrote:

===============
ok, i already see that i'm being taken in the wrong way...i know the
song is not funny...i know that it is sad, and it makes me feel that
way, but i was just commenting that the "flopping and scattered" line
is a bit humorous.  i know the rest of the song is anything but, and i
appreciate that, but....geez, ok, forget it all.  i'll shut up.
===============

no one is asking anyone to shut up, or to censor their opinions.

that's the whole point of discussion lists: to share thoughts, ideas,
inspiration, revelation, profundity, joy, shame, dreams, whimsy, what
not, and hoo-ha's (as long as it has igc and is faq appropriate!).

re: the problem with quoting lyrics out-of-context: i defer to my former
sig quote (which, two days ago, i finally changed after 6 mos!):

           "what a poor appearance the tales of the poets
            make stripped of the colors which music puts
            upon them, and recited in simple verse."
                - plato

:o)
peace...
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           "i love to embrace the chaos of it all."
                              - ani difranco

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 02:37:39 est
reply-to:     carol & sarah <chickenwomyn@hotmail.com>
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well, i had been waiting for months to find out who my roomate was.  the
day after the concert we got our assignments.  i called up my roomate,
and her mom said that she was sleeping 'cuz she had gotten home
late...after a concert.  well, yeah, so that was pretty crazy, she was
at the same concert (we both wondered if the ohter was there before we
knew of our existance).  so i aske where she was sitting.  she said on
the left side (amy side by iggites--but she's a sarah so...).  wow, me
too!!  what section?  section h!!  wow, me too!!  umm...what row?  row
d.  what the heck!!!  my roomate just happened to  be sitting some 8
seats down the same row.  to think had we gotten the assignments on
friday instead of monday, we could have met!!  well, anyway...yeah.  oh
yeah, and jill c. just happened to feel like taking a picture of the row
(i really haven't looked at it yet tho).  it was just crazy spooky.  it
was also the same concert where ig played soy segue into brown eyed
girl, and earlier that summer i had told jill "wouldn't it be cool to
hear a female band play that song...without changing the gender?"  of
course i had ig in mind, but jeez...apparanty they had me in mind!!
(well, my idea anyway...i have hazel eyes)  we didn't notice this right
away...and we werent scared at this revelation, but it was soooo cool!!

well, i have no more stories to tell...

love,
  carol

>in a message dated 98-01-19 00:11:28 est, you write:
>
><< but then again, at
> the lilith in columbus, i had an even scarier coincidence (you may
ask,
> if you like). >>
>
>do tell :o)
>
>~~tigger
>


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jessica,
   that sounded magic and made me smile

: )

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 08:16:02 est
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hey kind friends,
     all this talk about our 'first time' prompted me to ask, okay, beg-
does anyone have a boot of my first ig concert? it was way back in 1992, and
so i'm calling on the veteran listees here- no one i know of has this in their
collections- i don't even care if it is good sound quality because it's purely
for sentimentality!

december 14, 1992-shea's theater buffalo, new york

siouxie sue and the banshees opened for them (they kind of scared me!). was
anyone else there? from reading the setlist i now realize that they opened
with my all-time favorite song. i had remembered it a bit differently. anyway,
the first song i heard ig perform live was strange fire. up until then i had
only tapes of them- played on a cheap box, and had no idea how truly amazing
the sound of their music was going to be.

does anyone feel like interpreting this song with me? strange fire is my
favorite song to dissect because of it's allusions and rich poetry. i'll save
my interp. until after a few of you have had the chance to discuss this song
and what it means to you.
~peace and all things indigo~leah

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 08:42:04 -0500
reply-to:     deanna light <drlight@mindspring.com>
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i've been listening to a neat cd i bought for $3 at a used cd shop.  it's
called common thread: country salutes the eagles (or something reasonably
close to that title).  now, i'm not a *huge* fan of country music, but i do
have a soft spot in my heart for it, having grown up in nashville.  and
let's face it:  songs with titles like "lyin' eyes" and "tequila sunrise"
just *beg* to be done country style!  one of the highlights of the disc is
travis tritt's "take it easy," by the way, as well as clint black's (i
think) take on "desperado."  i think many of these songs had an inherent
country-ness to them which is given free rein on this disc, even though the
new versions remain almost slavishly faithful to the old ones (note-for-note
renditions of the guitar solos, for instance).

anyway, as i was listening to this, i suddenly realized that i would pay
*money* to hear ig do "take it easy" and "peaceful, easy feeling."  think of
the irony:  "got seven women on my mind"; "i found out a long time ago what
a woman can do to your soul."  and think of the *harmony*, for heaven's
sake!  the vocal parts on the originals were so high as to practically be
alto-range lines anyway, and they would sound really cool with amy's and
emily's voices!

is anyone, by the way, compiling a list of these pipe dreams?  it might be
neat to gather them all and forward them to russell carter management or
something, in the (vain?) hope that they might get a kick out of it and pass
it along.  just a thought -- and i ain't volunteering.  ;-)

deanna

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 14:31:19 +0000
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on mon, 19 jan 1998, deanna light wrote:

> is anyone, by the way, compiling a list of these pipe dreams?  it might be
> neat to gather them all and forward them to russell carter management or
> something, in the (vain?) hope that they might get a kick out of it and pass
> it along.  just a thought -- and i ain't volunteering.  ;-)

well i don't know whether it had anything to do with the list or not, but
i read on this list a couple of years ago someone's wish for ig to do
"brown eyed girl", which now appears to have come true.   so someone might
well be.

mat

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 10:56:33 -0500
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alrighty.  i'm all e-mailed out.  there were a lot of you being sweet and
waiting 'till the weekend to contact me, like i asked.  thanks!  so now everyone
who has requested the photos should have the info they need.  if not then you're
gonna need to e-mail me again cause i don't have your request.  the votes have
also been tallied (i love details!).  and the final count was:

amy's headbangin hair: 23
em's cute grimace: 14

so amy's lovely locks win hands down, but i'm gonna try and get everyone what
they want.  if you still haven't sent your sase and the $3, remember to write me
a note letting me know if you have a preference for either photo and i'll try to
get everyone what his or her little heart desires.

what else?  oh, hejira has been resolved.  thanks y'all.  take care and happy
monday...

marivel

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it doesn't matter what they say
i've found something most people never find."

                         --brenda weiler "5,000 miles"

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 10:59:27 -0500
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hey again!

guess what?  the heaven's are rewarding me for all my photo/boot efforts.  i get
to go to sf for the warfield shows, and now i need to find out if there were
ever any list meet sort of activities planned for these 2 shows.  if anyone
knows anything, or wants to plan something let me know.  yay san fransisco!!!

marivel

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it doesn't matter what they say
i've found something most people never find."

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 11:19:52 -0500
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hey folks---

does anyone know what's up with kristen hall lately?
i know she's moved to la but she hasn't released any new music
in the past coupla years and i was wonderinwhat her
future plans were? anyone got any clues?? i'm dying for
more of kristen's poetry...


thanks!
therese :)


                i went looking for a special place
                just for me and no one else
                and if you want me you can find me
                i'll be crossing the atlantic without charts
                (underneath the skies)
                i'm a ferdinand magellan of these parts
                (where the answers lie)
                i'm just following my compass in the dark.
                        -kristen hall

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 11:24:53 -0500
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        hey folks,

        i just love adding fuel to an already brightly-burning fire...
but here's my first ig show experience.

        i was at lilith in noblesville, indiana, at a venue called
deer creek.  i got there at about 3:30 in the afternoon, and was
watching michelle malone play on the 3rd stage.  i was standing at the
very front of the stage, with no one between me and michelle.  she
played about 4 songs, and i just happened to turn and look beside me
and standing there, shoulder to shoulder beside me, were the girls.  i
very nearly freaked, but managed to keep my composure.  i had just
long enough to grab my then-girlfriend who was on the other side of me,
and point the girls out, when they walked up the steps and took the stage
with michelle.  the three of them did a cover of the rolling stones'
song, "wild horses."  i had smuggled a disposable camera into the
venue with me, and got 8 or 9 great close-up photos of the three of
them performing together.  just for your info, amy played a mandolin,
emily played an acoustic guitar, and michelle was playing a lovely
black electric.  afterwards, i got emily's autograph, but amy ran off
in the other direction.  i then chatted with michelle for a few
minutes and got her autograph.  in all, i got about 8 autographs that
day.  also standing right behind me in the crowd was sarah mclachlan's
lead guitarist whose name eludes me right now for some reason.  but
i'd met him once before, and i know he hates being recognized, so i
left him alone.

        not bad for my first time seeing them live, eh?  =)

        incidentally, the last time i checked, you can download a
short clip of them playing "wild horses" from the lilith fair web
site.  the guy who filmed it was standing directly beside me.  =)

        talk to you later,

        mike feeney


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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 11:52:11 -0500
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my mother has asked me a question that i cannot answer in regard to the
ig, so i am asking those of you in ig land who may be able to help.

what mom wants to know is this...

how can a bunch of college aged people, who go to school full time and
live on limited incomes, or who have just graduated and started their
careers, afford to go to concert after concert after concert, traveling
over hill and dale, sometimes across country even?

this question arose after she asked me how i could afford to do the six
i did this past year, and i told her that this is nothing...other people
have done over 15.  she didn't understand, and i really couldn't
answer.
so, can anyone help me so i can explain to this woman??
how *do* we do it?   :)  :)

peace-
karrie

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 12:25:32 -0500
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mike feeney <00tmfeeney@bsuvc.bsu.edu> said:

>         i was at lilith in noblesville, indiana, at a venue called
> deer creek.  i got there at about 3:30 in the afternoon, and was
> watching michelle malone play on the 3rd stage.  i was standing at the
> very front of the stage, with no one between me and michelle.

hee, hee. i think you were standing about two people away from me -- i was
right up front, too! this wasn't my first ig experience (or my first mm
experience, for that matter) but i believe it may be one of my two
favorite concert experiences of all time. i had gone to lilith alone,
nervous that i'd run into an ex-girlfriend with whom i'd had a bad
breakup, not sure whether going alone was the right thing to do -- well,
michelle's set was wonderful enough, and when amy & emily joined her,
those few minutes would have made me glad to have gone even if the rest of
the day/evening had sucked utterly. (which it didn't, needless to say.)

thanks for reminding me of that great memory!

-anne

"we need new words/ for what this is, this hunger entering our/ loneliness
  like birds, stunning our eyes into rays/ of hope. we need the flutter that
  can save/ us, something that will swirl across the face/ of what we have
          become and bring us grace."  --lucille clifton, "blake"
*** anne haines ** ahaines@indiana.edu ** http://php.indiana.edu/~ahaines ***

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 12:46:07 -0500
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heeeeello !
o my people, i am really enjoying reading about first concert... but now i
cant sleep at night because i can t stop thinking about mine... wanna hear
the *moment*? i am there with a bunch of my most-amazing friends, and we
are first row (that close to amy... no wonder i turned insane) and the
girls are singing hey kind friend, and we are all holding hands, and amy
just has this awesome smile while saying: "its one true root that you
bring to me.."  so it was just the fulness of time.
so here is my big request: does someone has a boot from the montreal
concert, june 9, 1997??? please if you do, i would be so happy!!!! let me
know (email privately)  o if i had that... i think life would be perfect!

and about sexy lines and stuff, when i hear the little song that ends
"blood quantum" on honor, i totally freak. it makes me tremble everytime.
both a&e voices are so soft and so gentle... so here to you all who dont
have honor yet (cathy?? major pressure here) run run run run! go buy it
now!

july ;)

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 13:17:24 -0500
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         abc will remove ellen from its schedule for six weeks
         starting in march, replacing it with an as-yet-unannounced
         new sitcom.

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 10:21:50 -0800
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deanna light wrote:
>
i suddenly realized that i would pay *money* to hear ig do "take it
easy" and "peaceful, easy feeling."

kate wolf does a beautiful version of peaceful, easy feeling on her give
yourself to love live cd (she changes the pronouns tho).

hugh barroll

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 14:00:41 -0400
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hmmmm...i've been thinking today - i'd really like to hear amy & emly
cover more fleetwood mac.
i don't know how many of you out there have "the dance," but i'd really
like to hear amy sing the *revamped* version of "big love."  ohhh yeaah.
what do y'all think?!

-bethany :)

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 11:11:04 -0800
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        the first song of my first concert was "thin line" and then the
"wood song" :)
nojf 5-4-96 at kiefer arena.  what a magical show!
        and the beautiful ladies kept walking by *everywhere*!  that concert
was about 95% female, by far the highest % of the 9 concerts i've attended :)

i       tony doolittle - houston, texas, usa            g
n                                                       i
d       not content to bow and bend to the whims        r
i       of culture that swoop like vultures eating      l
g       us away to our extinction -  emily saliers      s
o

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 13:16:13 -0600
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>hmmmm...i've been thinking today - i'd really like to hear amy & emly
>cover more fleetwood mac.
><snip>
>
>oh god no!! sorry, no offense to anyone who likes fleetwood mac. i was
>totally into fm during the 70s and early 80s. saw them like 7 or 8 times in
>concert. but, now i can't stand to listen to anything off of rumors (okay, my
>fault.. i listened to it like 500,000 times when i first got it) and just the
>sound of stevie nicks' voice can send me running screaming from the room! i
>guess i am a classic case of too much of a good thing.
>
>a song i would like to hear ig do is either windfall or tear stained eye by
>son volt. btw, if you like tear stained eye, check out kris mckay's version
>of this song, it is much better than son volt's, imho.
>
>peace,
>
>dan perkins
>austin, texas
>
>"don't get strung out, by the way i look. don't judge a book by it's cover."
>           dr. frank-n-furter
>
>
>
>

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at 07:42 pm 1/18/98 -0600, jessica wrote:
  and i have a question, the second time i saw them they seemed to be pissed
at each other and the concert sucked.  has anyone else noticed that?
>well, that's all for now.  thanks for reading.  jessica

        nope, never noticed an ig concert sucking.  in fact, i've never even
heard of such an occurrence.  where might that have taken place at?

tony

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 14:56:28 est
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ok listers.....
maybe it's just that time of year, but circumstances have led me to part with
some of my treasured collection.....
i don't have much stuff...  just a few autographed items.
e-me privately with your offers on the items described below.  highest "bid"
by friday, january 23 at 9pm gets it!

backstage pass sticker (backing still intact) from rop tour, autographed by
amy.

rop promo poster, indigo blue pic of two women dressed in "vintage" clothing.
autographed by both girls.

and...last but not least...<sigh>.....

autographed leather guitar strap...signed by both.

e-me with your offers...

thanks!
~~robin

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 11:51:19 -0600
reply-to:     tony at mendina <mendina@utdallas.edu>
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howabout legal notices?

notice to passengers: in the event of a sudden change in cabin pressure, a
rosary will be dispensed from the overhead compartment. inspiration will
also be provided.
********************
tony at mendina          ideas are not responsible for the people
mendina@utdallas.edu     who beleive in them. -- dark avenger

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 09:03:38 aes
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with the canberra ig show drawing ever nearer (45 days to go....) my
brother, sister and i are talking seriously about the signs we want to make
so that we can hopefully get up on stage with the girls.

what i want to know is, from people who are experienced sign holders and
the people who managed to get up on stage with them, did you hold the signs
up all the way through the show hoping they'd get the idea by the time
closer to fine came on, or did you just wait til the end? what's the most
effective way to get their attention? we're in the fourth row. i'm getting
all these questions from my brother and sister who are soooo excited. i am
too but they're the ones pushing to get up there. i'm personally scared
shitless of getting up there but would do it because it's a once in a life
time opportunity!

any advice would be welcome!

thanks

helen

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now that someone has posted the words to "water is wide"  , can someone tell
me how i can get a copy of the song?  or can someone offer to make me a copy,
i have boots to trade !    please let me know...
thanks,  amy

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 15:27:22 +0000
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please email me or ahuth@breecehill.com if you have or know
anyone who has extra tickets to either or both of the san francisco
general admission ig shows.  looking for two of each, but will settle
for anything.

elizabeth from denver

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just a note to say my page been updated if anyone wants to stop by (ig links
are still the same ones, but the gay and lesbian links have grown to almost
double what the were for those interested)
thanks.

<a href="http://members.aol.com/mreeves74/index.html">michelle's rainbow room
</a>

michelle

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still hoping that somewhere out there in the land of indigo there is someone
who has a boot of the 10/21/97 show in fredricksburg, va...

i'm asking because my friend laura was mentioned by a&e because she had the
coveted job of carting them aroundand listening to them discuss cheng,
democracy and zapatistas all day...

if anybody has this or knows someone who does..i will give anything...(well
almost)

heather
*wondering how many times she has to ask before someone actually has
this...10th time is the charm i guess*

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 18:24:03 -0500
reply-to:     cathy <catherineann@mindspring.com>
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okay, so i'm wandering round my newly-discovered ~favorite~ music
store and looking for michelle malone stuff and they guy asks me if i'm
an ig fan (am i????? puhleeeeeze!!!! :)

anyway, he points me in the direction of the import bin and proceeds
to show off about a million copies of various boot-like cd recordings
that i've heard mentioned on this list umpteen million times.

they've got the allman brothers thing, and in and out something,
and reverse something, and shades of indigo (with a florescent orange
insert, no doubt!) and i'm freakin' out and desperately trying to add up
how much i have left in my account for the month.

soooooo, my question is:
what's a good price to pay for such ig treasures? all the disks
they had were $28. is that a good price, or am i getting ripped off?
or am i getting the deal of the century and now everyone is gonna
wanna know where my secret (well, it's not really so secret actually --
i heard about it from someone on this list) cd place is???

help! i need some serious guidance here, before i go signing
away my life savings, much less my grocery money, to these
fine music proprietors.

you can e-mail me privately! thanks ever so...
cathy :)

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in a message dated 1/19/98 1:51:37 pm, you wrote:

<<does anyone know what's up with kristen hall lately?>>

no idea, but i have another to add... heard "let it rain" today, but it wasn't
kristen hall.  anyone know who it could be?

dee

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 16:39:05 -0800
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hey kind friends~

        after round 1 the leaders are:
                1st - egohound & jen lucero (tied w/ perfect scores - $3,300)
                2nd - claudine lapsky & d schulman (tied w/ $3,100 points)
                3rd - indigofrk ($2,700 points)

here are the answers to round 1-

politics
$100    over 42 supporters of this indigenous indian rebellion were
slaughtered in the chiapas state of mexico on december 22, 1997?  zapatistas

$200    amy is "practicing politics" in this song?  cut it out

$300    ig's practice this type of "horticultural" politics?  grassroots

chickenman

$100    the chickenman sold this to amy?  junk and conversation

$200    emily was "where/doing what" when amy met the chickenman?  sleeping
in the van

$300    amy met the chickenman near this texas city? (not austin or
houston!)  bastrop
        *daily double*
songwriters

$100    emily's favorite female singer/songwriter?  joni mithchell

$200    group that originally wrote & performed "get together"?  youngbloods

$300    alpha dog on the new mongrels album (daemon recording)?  haynes brooke


fashion

$100    she wears the fashionable red shoes?  sara lee

$200    what sort of "spots" are on amy's very faded red jeans with ripped
knees??         ink spots

$300    who wore the leopard design skirt outfit on the '97 summer tour?
jerry marotta

food

$100    the coffee's hot and this is high?  corn

$200    emily's personality is this type of food?  stawberry

$300    a diet devoid of animals and animal by-products?  vegan


here's double jeopardy - please reply privately!

categories - ig list, acronyms, bootlegs, ig songs, sots

ig list -

$200    the first place to look for ig information or list information
*before* posting to the list?

$400    the ig list is primarily a forum where ig fans can discuss this?

$600    maximum recommended length of a signature on the list?

acronyms

$200    rop?

$400    latul?

$600    soc?

bootlegs -

$200    the term of the method most commonly used to mass-distribute a
bootleg tape to list members?

$400    what will a&e most likely do to you if they find out *you* have a
bootleg of one of their performances?

$600    what will a&e most likely do to you if they find out you are
*selling* unauthorized bootlegs of their performances?

ig songs -

$200    "all skate, now reverse" refers to this activity (be specific)?

$400    this song, "is sort of about decomposition in general.
decomposition of love, life and fame.  everything."? - amy

$600    what is the music box playing at the end of "this train revised"?

sots -

$200    what does "doolittle all day" refer to?

$400    where is gainesville town?

$600    who is harriet the spy?

i       tony doolittle - houston, texas, usa            g
n                                                       i
d       not content to bow and bend to the whims        r
i       of culture that swoop like vultures eating      l
g       us away to our extinction -  emily saliers      s
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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 19:54:55 est
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in a message dated 98-01-19 14:53:49 est, karrie@ncinter.net writes:

<< how can a bunch of college aged people, who go to school full time and
live on limited incomes, or who have just graduated and started their
careers, afford to go to concert after concert after concert, traveling
over hill and dale, sometimes across country even?
  >>

wow it's like karrie read my mind - i've been wondering the very same thing
for a long time now.  here are my suggested answers.  no jobs clogging up your
social lives, trust funds, summer job money, student loans, easy school
schedules, thrift store clothes, friends in every city on the planet.  well,
how did i do y'all?  i'm jealous of you adn i encourage you to continue these
exploits while you're young and while you can unless you're racking up huge
credit debts.  in this case, it's not worth it!

bon's .02

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date:         mon, 19 jan 1998 20:05:18 -0500
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d schulman <dschulman@aol.com> said:

> no idea, but i have another to add... heard "let it rain" today, but it wasn't
> kristen hall.  anyone know who it could be?

amanda marshall covered this song on her debut album, creatively titled
"amanda marshall," which was released on epic on 1995. it's not a bad
album, not the best thing i've ever listened to in my life, but not bad.

-anne

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is this the eric clapton song?

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>how can a bunch of college aged people, who go to school full time and
>live on limited incomes, or who have just graduated and started their
>careers, afford to go to concert after concert after concert, traveling
>over hill and dale, sometimes across country even?

it's easy. you just stop wasting your money on silly, unimportant things
like clothes, food, and rent. :-d
kirsten

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on mon, 19 jan 1998, michele wrote:

> is this the eric clapton song?

no-- it was written by kristen hall & can be found on her cd "be careful
what you wish for..." (an excellent, wonderful, listenable, and overall
terrific cd).

-anne

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 12:59:10 +1100
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hey folks,

so, a couple of weeks ago i was goofing around in the internet
movie database when it occurred to me that since amy and emily
had been listed in the credits for "boys on the side", they
probably had their own imdb entries.  so i looked, and yup.

there wasn't much information so i added some more in (except
that the link from amy's entry to the epic ig page somehow got
omitted, not by me).  it's kind of neat - go to
http://www.imdb.com and pick a server, then do a search from
there...

happy happy folks,
sherlyn
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ok, since we're all sharing... my first concert was at hofstra last march. i
went with my best friend and we got there really early ('cuz it was general
admission) and we were about 10 feet from the stage, like not leaning on the
fence thing, but right behind the people who were. anyway, i remember emily
came out in overalls and a baseball cap to introduce ferron, who opened, and
as she walked out just seeing her standing there, like in front of *me* was
the most incredible experience ever... at least until the girls started
playing. the first song was soy, which i had never heard. i hadn't heard more
than half the stuff they played, cuz it was all from sots, but even so it was
so amazing!!!!!
ok, that's all
anna

ps if anyone has a boot of this show could you pleeeaase e mail me privately.
it was 3/16/97 at hofstra university, ny

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hello people~

        i just want to remind everyone of some of mlk jr's. contributions to
our society:

he proposed mutual respect and understanding among human beings
he practiced non-violent grassroots politics
he believed in fairness and justice
he stood strong in the face of hatred and fear to promote his ideals
he gave the ultimate sacrifice for the ongoing struggle of freedom and equality

        what *radical* ideas!! :o

        "i have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted and every
hill and mountain shall be made low.  the rough places will be made plain
and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the lord
shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.
        this is our hope ... a stone of hope." - martin luther king, jr.

        i wonder what influence mlk jr. had upon the girls, being from
atlanta also?

tony

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--- you wrote:
so, can anyone help me so i can explain to this woman??
how *do* we do it?   :)  :)

peace-
karrie
--- end of quoted material ---

said woman needs to stop worryin about it so much, me thinks ;)

having been to 15 ig shows in 97, i can say that i truly cannot afford
it....but when it come to a choice between the girlies and say a case of beer
or (gasp) a wheel of brie, the girls win out every time. even tho a "girl's
gotta eat", this girl would rather sit and watch amy ray for two hours wail out
some toons. not to mention the luscious vision of jerry marotta in  a skirt.
yum. heh heh.

sus

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--- you wrote:
  nope, never noticed an ig concert sucking.  in fact, i've never even
heard of such an occurrence.  where might that have taken place at?

tony
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...ya know, i know i'm probably going to regret writing this butt....i have to
say the bates concert this year kinda sucked. in retrospect. i mean it was 197
degrees, they were pratically hosing us down with our own sweat from the front,
and emily and amy just looked *so* not happy about the heat and the crowding.
at the time, of course, it was bliss....but after, i needed to see my shrink
and i lost 20 pounds in pure water.

just my .02

the high point was, of course, the company i went with....always ;)

xo, sus

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--- you wrote:
no idea, but i have another to add... heard "let it rain" today, but it wasn't
kristen hall.  anyone know who it could be?

dee
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dee woman and etc.,

it was, im guessing amanda marshall, who covered it on her latest cd.

damn but i am chatty susie tonite!

xoxo
sus

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bethany wrote:
>hmmmm...i've been thinking today - i'd really like to hear amy & emly
>cover more fleetwood mac.
>...i'd really
>like to hear amy sing the *revamped* version of "big love."  ohhh yeaah.
>what do y'all think?!

yeah, 'big love' would be great!  i was just thinking this morning, i'd love to hear them play 'sara', but then everyone would think they're singing to their bass player!  :)

i've already posted a while back about my first ig concert, but i wonder if anyone on the list was there.  it was lilith fair in milwaukee, aug. 19, '97.  if so, do you have a boot, or do you know what was the song they had all the other musicians join them on?  could it have been water is wide?  i just found that song in a book & learned to play it, (don't have a recording of it yet), and it sounded like that may have been it.  i think i already asked this question before, but got no response, so please don't be shy!

which makes me wonder, am i the only lister from milwaukee?  just curious, if there's any other brew city or se wisconsin residents, please e-mail me privately.  thanx.

peace,
barb

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in a message dated 1/19/98 8:51:20 pm, you wrote:

<<--- you wrote:
no idea, but i have another to add... heard "let it rain" today, but it wasn't
kristen hall.  anyone know who it could be?

dee
--- end of quoted material ---
dee woman and etc.,

it was, im guessing amanda marshall, who covered it on her latest cd.>>

thank you to all, especially the queen o'cheese for finding her way back to
the list after all that snow... it was weird enough sitting in sbarro's at the
mall with my mom during a shopping break, but to hear that song!!!!!  i
thought i was dreaming the entire experience.

so... the original question was: what is kristen hall up to lately?

dee

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>
>what i want to know is, from people who are experienced sign holders and
>the people who managed to get up on stage with them, did you hold the signs
>up all the way through the show hoping they'd get the idea by the time
>closer to fine came on, or did you just wait til the end? what's the most
>effective way to get their attention? we're in the fourth row. i'm getting
>all these questions from my brother and sister who are soooo excited. i am
>too but they're the ones pushing to get up there. i'm personally scared
>shitless of getting up there but would do it because it's a once in a life
>time opportunity!
>
well, at geneva i held up signs *between* songs when they could actually
read and didn't have to concentrate on singing and playing.  i also timed it
with the lights, so they could see the signs.  amy did read them, and
respond to them, but they had a curfew that night (10:00 because they had to
drive miles that night to make it to the mountain stage show the next day)
so they stuck to the setlist and didn't do any of my requests, or let me up
(i wanted to do stipe's kid fears part!).  so, good luck.  i know tigger got
up cause her sign said it was her first concert, and deb reiser got up cause
she had several very creative santa claus sayings.  don't be too
dissapointed if they don't let you up, but i'd make some request signs -
especially for some they probably don't have on the setlist, and maybe that
can make up for it if they do one.
lori

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sorry sus i have to disagree with you there. this was probably one of the
better shows i have seen. not only did i meet the girls afterwards but i also
met some pretty cool people there (faye....krista....caelin). but i guess we
are all entitled to our opinions. i didn't mind the heat all that much either
being in the front row.   :)


                                       -kristin

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i am sitting here trying to think of something to put on my licence plate, and
will the discussion of people's plates going around, i was wondering if anyone
had any ideas.   i thought of wysteria, but i don't know what that really
means, could anyone help me out?

   well, if you think of any or could help me with wysteria, please email me
privately!
      bethanne

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>
> --- you wrote:
>   nope, never noticed an ig concert sucking.  in fact, i've never even
> heard of such an occurrence.  where might that have taken place at?
>
> tony
> --- end of quoted material ---
> ...ya know, i know i'm probably going to regret writing this butt....i have to
> say the bates concert this year kinda sucked.

i *almost* posted that same response, it wasn't that i did not like it - but
i was working, security was right in my face squirting water on my new
camera, i was waay out back and was hoping to hear "hey kind friend". i went
with my friend matt and he's seen them a bunch of times and thought it was
sub-par and after seeing hartford, one of my fave shows last year, it was a let down.. they seemed
stressed out during the show - disconnected in a way


in retrospect. i mean it was 197
> degrees, they were pratically hosing us down with our own sweat from the front,
> and emily and amy just looked *so* not happy about the heat and the crowding.
> at the time, of course, it was bliss.

i nthought i was critical just because i saw them (or they saw me, i swear
the last four shows i saw last year - they must've known my schedule- i mean
i could walk to two shows....sheesh.) i thought bates sounded prettty lame in
comparision and all of the honor people were taking themselves so seriously.
they definitely relaxed at penobscot the day after.

...but after, i needed to see my shrink
> and i lost 20 pounds in pure water.
>
> just my .02
>
> the high point was, of course, the company i went with....always ;)

and of course that guy who let you borrow his tape recorder..

it was fun meeting the listees!
mike r.

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i had the weirdest experience y'all.  on my floor we have these secret
pals, and whatever name you draw, you buy stuff for, okay?  so anyway,
whoever had my name was totally neglecting me this quarter, and then today
i found these 2 boxes outside my door, a potpourri pot and a bag of
potpourri.  the weird part is that the potpourri scent is "wysteria" !
bizarre--especially b/c i heard that song for the 1st time this weekend!

anyway, enough ramblin' for 2nite.  sleep well, all.

shannon
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hi all!

thanks for all the offers so far... you guys are awsome!

i didn't mention it before, but all items are in excellent condition!

keep those bids rolling in!!

~~robin

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in a message dated 98-01-19 15:41:41 est, gdekel@travelscope.net writes:

<<
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>> v  e  r  y     i  m  p  o  r  t  a  n  t  !!
>
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>
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>
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>information was recieved from ibm; please share it with
>everyone that might access the internet. once again, pass this
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>
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>
>immediately delete any mail items that say this. aol has said
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>forward this to all your online friends asap!!!
>
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>
>> v  e  r  y     i  m  p  o  r  t  a  n  t  !!
>
>> warning warning warning warning warning warning
>
>if you receive an email titled "join the crew", do not, repeat,
>do not open it!!!
>
>it will erase everything on your hard drive!!! forward this
>letter out to as many people as you can... this is a new, very
>malicious virus, and not many people know about it!!! this
>information was recieved from ibm; please share it with
>everyone that might access the internet. once again, pass this
>along to everyone on your address book so that this may be
>stopped.
>
>also, do not open or even look at any mail that says, "returned
>or unable todeliver" this virus will attach itself to your
>computer components and render them useless.
>
>immediately delete any mail items that say this. aol has said
>that this is a very dangerous virus and that there is no remedy
>for it at this time. please practise cautionary measures and
>forward this to all your online friends asap!!!
>
>
>
>>
>
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hey y'all,
      just thought that i would pass along the following offer.  when i
was in tower records tonight, i saw a stack of daemon catalogs along with
daemon bumper stickers.  i picked up a couple.  i have three to offer to
whomever writes me back first.  i'm willing to mail you the bumper
stickers if you email me with your address where you want it sent.  the
stickers are black with the daemon logo in white and say "louder than you
think".  i saw them for sale in the catalog for $2 a piece.

smiles,
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sus confided of the bates (motel) show to the anonymous horde:
>the high point was, of course, the company i went with....always ;)
>
>xo, sus

and how amy was gonna orchestrate the proposal of said company and be the
priest at your wedding, am i right?

hee, who wouldn't have been high after that?  right lynda?  rofl.

oh and mike reynolds, your favorite show of all time was new haven, cuz you
got to be my b.f. for ten minutes.  ;)

;-p

h, who was called unintelligible!  moi!?
member sbmfc and starf__ckers anonymous

ps.  when is the *next* concert so i know how long i have to wait for
another nummy review?  post long 'uns, kiddies!!
"horses, horses, horses!  coming in in all directions..."
                       --  patti smith, my heroine.

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me again.  well i'm beginning the massive mailing process.  the boots are on
their way to all of you.  well some of you sooner than others, but soon.  and i
wanted to explain a little bit about a few things before anyone gets them and
thinks i'm insane (i am...it's just not evident from the boots).

1.  i wrote 1998 on almost all the inserts.  i can't afford to go to kinkos and
correct them all, so they are hand-corrected.  sorry.

2.  none of the screaming or singing is me.  well at least *during* the concert.
after the concert ends you can probably hear me disolving into hysterics, but if
amy just bent over and handed *you* her setlist, you'd be freaking out too!

3.  i added extra stuff to the ann arbor and geneva boots.  ann arbor has both
live and prerecorded stuff from that new artist i was telling you about from
fargo, nd, brenda weiler.  there's info about where to go to order her cd from
the record company.  and i stuck a few lyrics on the insert.  they are all hers.
i don't want any copyright problems.  just wanted to share some good music.

the geneva boot has excerpts from the girls' utica soundcheck.  i didn't use any
of the new stuff since this wasn't a public performance, and i don't want to
violate any sort of personal boundaries with the stuff they're still working on.
but i did include hejira and river both performed by emily, and a weird little
incident with amy.  now this probably indicates a lot about my personality, but
there isn't really a song here.  just amy trying to fix the levels on her voice
with the sound guy.  it's three hits.  but she never gets past "and this
world's".  it's intensely amusing and very typically amy.  so i apologize for
those of you who just think it's stupid, but i enjoyed it thoroughly the first
time and every time i've listened to it since then.

okay that's it.  sorry it took so long.  thanks for being open to the new stuff
by brenda.  take care...

marivel

"so finally i've decided to leave my doubts behind
it doesn't matter what they say
i've found something most people never find."

                         --brenda weiler "5,000 miles"

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i clipped this article from benjy's digest -- a phish mailing list.  i
thought it might be interesting for some of us. i'd credit the author, but
i have no idea who it is, other than the email address you see below.


     date:    fri, 9 jan 1998 18:37:41 gmt
     from:    da flower punk <tlynch@socrates.berkeley.edu>
     subject: anti-taping efforts in 1953 & 1998
                      like sand through the fingers:
            two attempts to control audio taping, 1953 and 1998
     da flower punk -- jan. 9, 1997
     <tlynch@socrates.berkeley.edu>
     somewhere along the line at an early acid test, ken kesey is
     said
     to have tried to explain to bill graham about the nature of
     such
     events. trying control people's actions was in such an
     atmosphere
     is some way like trying to grab sand, kesey reportedly
     explained.
     the tighter you try to hold on to it, the quicker it will slip
     through your fingers.
     three generations of live concert taping has witnessed similar
     dynamics.  at various times, different interests within the
     music
     industry become more active in trying to limit or stop the
     recording and trading of such recordings.
     since we have apparently entered another of these periods, a
     brief comparison of the issue in 1953 and today might be
     useful.
     significantly, some of the most active agents in trying to
     prevent
     tapers from recording live music in 1953 (the reel-to-reel tape
     recorder became popular after wwii) were from the musician's
     union.
     the american federation of musicians made it national policy
     that
     all requests to tape performances required a *union-issued
     contract*, specifying payments *to the union* for permission to
     record live music.
     ralph j. gleason understood the futility of the musicians
     union's
     attempts to restrict the taping of live concerts.  already by
     the
     early 1950s, gleason pointed out, tape-traders comprised an
     *international* network.  this was not a threat to the economic
     interests of the unions or the artists.  the vast majority
     tapers
     and traders were simply music lovers engaged in a non-profit
     hobby.
     tapers were (and are) very dedicated; they would do (and still
     do)
     whatever was necessary to catch the sounds of great live music
     on
     tape.  microphones were hidden in rafters and tape decks were
     smuggled in to concert halls and jazz clubs by the early 1950s.
     (with the advancements in technology this has become easier and
     the
     quality of such recordings has greatly increased.)
     as long as it was practiced with not-for-profit ethics, gleason
     argued, taping was not only no economic threat to the
     musicians.
     it was "an exciting new field."  tape collecting and trading
     was
     also unstoppable, and not only because live concerts were
     frequently
     broadcast over the radio.
     in 1998 it is the recording industry's trade organization that
     has
     begun taking action against tape traders.  the riaa recently
     entrapped a man doing "two-for-one" trades into a deal over the
     internet.  the riaa insists the man was making a profit by
     requiring
     a new tape trader to send two blank tapes to him in return for
     one of
     those tapes mailed back with a live concert on it.  but
     "two-for-one" trades are already considered unethical within
     the
     taping community and are frowned upon.  only "newbies" to the
     field
     would take advantage of such offers, since one-for-one trades
     are the
     standard and are readily available over the net.
     this one bust would be relatively unremarkable in and of
     itself.
     but it seems that the riaa considers this action just an
     opening
     salvo in a new war on tapers.  the riaa has recently sought to
     have
     internet service providers cancel the accounts of legitimate
     tapers
     who list tapes of artists that are anti-taping on-line, even
     when
     the tapes are not being circulated for profit.
     it is very interesting that it is now the *record industry*
     rather
     than an *artists union* trying to enforce bans on tape-trading.
     but
     the industry will learn -- sooner or later -- what the
     musicians union
     began learning 45 years ago.  the results of attempting to
     enforce
     unenforceable prohibitions are predictable.  the riaa will find
     that their every action will have an equal and opposite
     reaction.
     if the riaa inhibits legitimate, ethical tape trading it will
     actually encourage the very crime it seeks to prevent: the
     bootleg
     *sales* of live concert tapes.  coupled with the fact that the
     emerging
     consensus among artists is that not-for-profit tape-trading of
     their
     live music enhances rather than competes with their commercial
     interests,
     the riaa's actions are ill-conceived -- at best.
     in fact, no matter who is trying to prohibit concert-taping and
     tape-trading -- artists, venues, industry, and/or government --
     they will find the experience not unlike trying to grab sand.
     the
     tighter they try to grasp a hold of it, the faster and more
     thoroughly
     that control will slip through their fingers.
     the riaa has made its point.  the taping community has been put
     on
     notice that "two-for-one" trades are unacceptable.  the riaa
     should
     now back off and let the taping community take care of itself.
     ____________________________flowerpunkprods____________________
     ________
     "there is little they can do to stop this practice." - ralph j.
     gleason,
     1953
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>hmmmm...i've been thinking today - i'd really like to hear amy & emly
>cover more fleetwood mac.
><snip>

emily + piano = songbird...
wouldn't you just love to hear that...?
is it my imaginiation, or did i read on the list ages ago that someone heard
her soundcheck with this once?  if a boot exists, please let me know!

got some luvverly stuff from daemon last week - gerard mchughes yard sale is
fabulous!!!!  and 'thrive', the youth pride compilation, is really really
great - not one duff track on there...well, maybe one, but seriously folks -
go buy! you won't be disappointed!  by the way, does anyone know where the
live version of centre stage that's on there was recorded? just curious...


seffy

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on mon, 19 jan 1998, brig usc wrote:

>  >> v  e  r  y     i  m  p  o  r  t  a  n  t  !!
>  >
>  >> warning warning warning warning warning warning
>  >
>  >if you receive an email titled "join the crew", do not, repeat,
>  >do not open it!!!
>  >
>  >it will erase everything on your hard drive!!! forward this
>  >letter out to as many people as you can... this is a new, very
>  >malicious virus, and not many people know about it!!! this
>  >information was recieved from ibm; please share it with
>  >everyone that might access the internet. once again, pass this
>  >along to everyone on your address book so that this may be
>  >stopped.

this sounds like yet another hoax.   if you receive any email that says
there's a virus which will activate as soon as you open an email, it's
guaranteed to be a hoax.   this is just "good times" under a different
name.

sherlyn, another name to go in the "virus hoaxes" list in the list faq ...

mat

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>
>> v  e  r  y     i  m  p  o  r  t  a  n  t  !!
>
>> warning warning warning warning warning warning
>
>if you receive an email titled "join the crew", do not, repeat,
>do not open it!!!
>
>it will erase everything on your hard drive!!! forward this
>letter out to as many people as you can... this is a new, very
>malicious virus, and not many people know about it!!! this
>information was recieved from ibm; please share it with
>everyone that might access the internet. once again, pass this
>along to everyone on your address book so that this may be
>stopped.
>
>also, do not open or even look at any mail that says, "returned
>or unable todeliver" this virus will attach itself to your
>computer components and render them useless.
>
>immediately delete any mail items that say this. aol has said
>that this is a very dangerous virus and that there is no remedy
>for it at this time. please practise cautionary measures and
>forward this to all your online friends asap!!!
>
>
>
>>
>
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dear everyone,

i have only been unsubscribed for a few weeks, and i miss everyone!  i
hope you all are doing well, but i was so overwhelmed with the volume of
email, i could'nt make the time to read it all.

drop me a line if you feel like it, i really want to keep up with the
girls and their touring.

love, karen

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reply-to:     faye memolo <indigo@ncia.net>
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h wrote:
>
> oh and mike reynolds, your favorite show of all time was new haven, cuz you
> got to be my b.f. for ten minutes.  ;)

sorry, no offense, h, but i have to disagree!  i know mike's favorite
show had to have been colby in april.  i saw his face while he was
onstage, singing with the girls and he cannot ever have been happier in
his lifetime and lived.

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> >> v  e  r  y     i  m  p  o  r  t  a  n  t  !!
> >
> >> warning warning warning warning warning warning
> >
> >if you receive an email titled "join the crew", do not, repeat,
> >do not open it!!!
> >
>
>
>okay, this is definitely a hoax. you cannot get a computer virus from regular
>e-mail. you can get a virus if the e-mail has a word/excel attachment and
>that
>attachment as macros, and then only if you open the word/excel attachment.
>viruses must be imbedded in some sort of computer program code. in the case
>of word/excel the visual basic that is used in macros.
>
>peace,
>
>dan perkins
>austin, texas
>
>"don't dream it, be it."
>        -dr. frank-n-furter
>
>

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hey kind friends,
     if there is a listee out there who i am reserving a curve magazine for
who has not yet snail mailed me- please email me asap. there are still a
couple of people whose snail mail has not reached my front door yet. many
people want the mag. i'd like to accomodate everyone. let me know if your mail
is on the way or not.~leah

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              chickenwomyn@hotmail.com, marivel@m.imap.itd.umich.edu,
              kaseym24@aol.com, suthardj@southwestern.edu, indigopony@aol.com,
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hey,
    i'm sorry but they've all been spoken for.  if i get a chance to pick
up some more, i'll let you know.

smiles,
allison

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reply-to:     nicola nelson <nicnelson@hotmail.com>
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>no-- it was written by kristen hall & can be found on her cd "be
>careful what you wish for..." (an excellent, wonderful, listenable,
>and overall terrific cd).

anne forgot to add indispensible!  this is one of my favorite cd's -
right up there with my ig cd's.  and it even features our own, dear em
singing beautiful harmony.  i owe it to the list that i own this
one...found it in a used cd store, and bought it on the strength of
kristen having been mentioned here in a positive light.  chalk another
one up to the impeccable taste of the listees, and the value of
occasional nigc.  !!!
peace-nic

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kristen hall has a web page at http://home.intranet.org/kristen_hall/   she
reads the message board posted there.  last word was kristen is busy in la
working on her music and a soundtrack.  her friends say she is adjusting to
the area and is happily busy and productive.

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the answer to this question is: we don't.  as a nj resident, i watched ig
concert after concert pass me by this past year.  the one show i was able
to afford was a bit of a hike for me, so much so that i missed everything
but the encore because i got lost on the way.  so i paid thirty bucks for
two songs.  but i listen to you guys talk about how you go to concert
after concert, and sometimes i do wonder how you afford it.  i may be in
an unusual situation, since i live on loans and what i manage to make at
work. i know a lot of college students have help from parents.  anyhow,
i'm sure i'm speaking for at least a few lurkers when i say the only
reason some of you are under the impression that everyone on the list is
going to concert after concert is because the rest of us don't really feel
like posting about how broke we are and how bad we want to see ig.
mc
ps i think amy would do a kickass version of the bodeans song
"naked".  if you listen to the joe dirt car version, you'll see what i
mean.

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reply-to:     dlmsduncan@juno.com
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from:         dlmsduncan@juno.com
subject:      re: ? 'bout imports
x-to:         catherineann@mindspring.com

on mon, 19 jan 1998 18:24:03 -0500 cathy <catherineann@mindspring.com>
writes:
>okay, so i'm wandering round my newly-discovered ~favorite~ music
>store and looking for michelle malone stuff and they guy asks me if
>i'm
>an ig fan (am i????? puhleeeeeze!!!! :)
>
>anyway, he points me in the direction of the import bin and proceeds
>to show off about a million copies of various boot-like cd recordings
>that i've heard mentioned on this list umpteen million times.
>
>they've got the allman brothers thing
a steal at $28!!!! if you don't buy it, please give me their phone
number.

>, and in and out something,
not a bad import... priced fairly at $28

>and reverse something
another steal.

>, and shades of indigo (with a florescent orange
>insert, no doubt!)

not a bad price here either.

> and i'm freakin' out and desperately trying to add
>up
>how much i have left in my account for the month.
>
>soooooo, my question is:
>what's a good price to pay for such ig treasures? all the disks
>they had were $28. is that a good price, or am i getting ripped off?
>or am i getting the deal of the century and now everyone is gonna
>wanna know where my secret (well, it's not really so secret actually
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reply-to:     robert arkin <rdarkin@mindspring.com>
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hey,
        i was wondering if anyone knows a good place or places to find ig hard to
find stuff or imports in atlanta.  i figure that atlanta must have a lot-i
just havent discovered yet.  can anyone help me.  it would be greatlly
appreciated.
                                chelsea

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 10:41:47 -0500
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sorry but i sent my snail mail address to someone for a curve, just wonder
if you got it (i lost your name and address), so if your out there could you
let me know how we're doing?

thanks, paula

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 08:02:53 -0800
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im having a hard time trying to find ig posters...actually, ive never seen
one, except in a few movies..does anyone know which stores carry them, or
where i can order them, or if the fan club sells them (and if so, how do i
contact them??) thanks!!!
                     have an indigo day!
                                jeanette

                so what is love then, is it dictated or chosen
                does it sing like the hyms of 1000 years or is
                it just pop emotionand if it was ever here and
                it left does it mean it never was true?

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 11:30:30 -0500
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january 24
espizz@simons-rock.edu (erica spizz)
happy 21st, erica!

january 25
jamik@juno.com (jami klein)
happy birthday, jami!

january 26
mts5@aber.ac.uk (matthew j. smith)
happy 21st, matt!

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ok all!
i am enlisting your help. i am going to the ig concert on feb 1st, 7th row!!!
prime opportunity for booting i imagine. i have tips on how to sneak the
recorder into the theater (small venue), and what size/type to use. my
question is, where do i put it once i am in there? i am worried if i leave it
on my seat while i am dancing it will only hear the (blissful) sounds of me
and my friends. while i'd love to capture that aspect, i also want to get the
music!! please give me tips on how to hold, place, ect. .. a tape recorder for
prime booting! thanx!!
jenny

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 10:46:09 -0600
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helen asked:
>>what i want to know is, from people who are experienced sign holders and
>>the people who managed to get up on stage with them, did you hold the signs
>>up all the way through the show hoping they'd get the idea by the time
>>closer to fine came on, or did you just wait til the end? what's the most
>>effective way to get their attention?

and lori responsed:
>well, at geneva i held up signs *between* songs when they could actually
>read and didn't have to concentrate on singing and playing...i know tigger got
>up cause her sign said it was her first concert, and deb reiser got up cause
>she had several very creative santa claus sayings...but i'd make some
>request >signs-especially for some they probably don't have on the
>setlist...

seeing as i'm two for two in getting responses to signs, i thought i'd
offer a few words of wisdom. my mode of operation has been to key on "cute
and clever" (which i normally am ;) and pass on obnoxious and disturbing
(because it will get you no where and besides, you should be kind to your
neighbors).

for last march's davenport show, my sweetie greg flamer was determined to
hear strange fire. at the time they hadn't played it in years but i was
determined to help greg to the best of my ability. i made him a couple of
very large signs. one read, "i will work for strange fire" and the second
read, "i will do anything for strange fire". we were dead center, about 10
feet (3 meters) from the stage so both signs got a reaction and yes, they
acknowledged the request and played it for greg :) ig actually acknowledged
other signs for that show -- they let two woman up to join them for ctf.
one played the violin and the other played the oboe (they were both
awesome).

for the november show in madison, i had second row seats on amy's side. i
thought it might be fun to try to get on stage seeing as i had such great
seats. ok, but what should one do once on stage? i wasn't about sing in
front of a sellout crowd, so that's when i thought that asking to play the
tambourine during ctf might be a good way to get up. why the tambourine?
well, why not?

anyway about my signs...i didn't think holding up a sign that read, "can i
play tambourine during ctf?" would do the trick (too boring), so that's
when i came up with the santa clause angle (seeing as it was the start of
the holiday season).

i actually made several signs that sort of told a story. the first read, "i
asked santa if i could play tambourine with y'all." the second read, "he
said 'yes.'" the third read, "let's not disappoint santa." the fourth read,
"santa never lies!"i opted to hold them up _during_ songs just because it
seems as if inbetween they are busy switching  guitars and such. i also
opted to hold them up only during the "audience participation songs" and
otherwise upbeat songs (in other words, the signs were canned during ghost
and dgtgag). lady luck was on my side that night because they actually
played galileo third. they played it's alright, soy and lc almost in
succession so that really helped too. they acknowledged my first sign with
eye contact, smiles and laughter right away (i wish i had a video of the
show) and did the same with others.

to make a long story not so long, i was persistent but not obnoxious or
rude  with my signs and made my best sad puppy faces until emily eventually
asked me which song i wanted to play on and said i could come on up for it.
i'm convinced that having "cute" signs and the fact that they were in a
great mood that night is what did the trick for me.

i'll never forget the experience, but to be totally honest i wonder if
future shows will ever mean as much to me. i mean, how can i possible top
getting on stage? i wasn't able to make it to the milwaukee show because i
got sick, but in a strange way that ended up being ok. after my experience
in madison, the milwaukee show could very well have ended up being very
anti-climatic.

anyway, good luck!

deb

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 11:48:44 est
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hey listees!
i've been reading us all talk about what song we would like to see covered by
the indigo girls and i was wondering if anyone felt the same way as i do: i
like their own own work best. i really dont' enjoy their covers (especially of
famous songs) because, you know, it's been done. these grrls are so amazing ..
. i get a little edgy when i hear too many covers being done that don't need
to be done. obviously there are exceptions- bury my heart at wounded kneee and
midnight train(which i think is a cover) are two of my fav. songs of theirs.
so, i would love to know if anyone shares myfrustration.
thanx!
jenny

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 12:21:27 -0500
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oh please. we've all seen this one 23 times before, right? we all know that
viruses can't be transmitted through plaintext email, right? we all know
that computers distinguish between data and instructions, right? we all
realize that an email which claims to warn of a virus (that is, a program
which contains instructions to reproduce itself) but *itself* contains
instructions to reproduce itself ("forward this to everyone you know!") is
juuust a liitlle bit suspect, right?
kirsten

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 12:39:10 -0500
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they would be steals as originals, but i do know of a former atlanta store
that made cdr copies of many artists promos and imports, (i bought one, a
steal at $26 of ani's german live boot, assuming it would be impossible to
find the original)

i have since seen the original german cd at 19 dollars.

so, buyer beware - ask on the list for detailed info on these discs, i
suspect they are cdr's - because everyone in atlanta collects ig stuff and
finding all that in one place would be, like, a stike of a lifetime!

peace-
mike r.

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 10:33:04 -0800
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hi...i'm going to see the girls in sacramento on 1/28, and dh & the
tantrums are opening for them.  so are they good?  anyone see them
recently?  should we really get there in time for the opening act?  any
info is appreciated.  thanks!

jill
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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 13:51:27 -0500
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on mon, 19 jan 1998 18:24:03 -0500 cathy <catherineann@mindspring.com>
writes:
>anyway, he points me in the direction of the import bin and proceeds
>to show off about a million copies of various boot-like cd recordings
>that i've heard mentioned on this list umpteen million times.
>
>they've got the allman brothers thing


and in response, someone else writes:

>a steal at $28!!!! if you don't buy it, please give me their phone
>number.


actually, i read cathy's original query as meaning that the music store had
*bootleg* copies of the allman brothers thing (club r&r), shades of indigo,
and reverse 1.  all of these were promotional issues from epic, and
original, non-bootleg copies are indeed hard to find and expensive to buy.
my guess is that if he had "a million copies" of these items, that they're
in fact not originals but bootlegs, and that $28 is pretty much the going
rate for a single cd-bootleg.  in that case, then, it wouldn't be a "steal,"
but an average bootleg price.

if, of course, he *is* offering originals of these elusive items at $28,
he's either very misinformed or very altruistic.  i would guess it's the
former.  in either case, however, if they *are* originals at $28, snap them
up, and quick.  you will never see that price again.

as a benchmark, i paid $110 for my original club r&r, $75 for my original
reverse 1, and $40 for my original shades of indigo.  all three were bought
about three years ago.  i'd be interested, by the way, in knowing what
others have paid for originals of these same items, just out of curiosity.
i'd be willing to compile responses on that and post them to the list, if
anyone's interested.  it might be good material for the faq, since what the
going price is for these items is a question that comes up every now and
again.


>>, and in and out something,
>not a bad import... priced fairly at $28

if i remember correctly, in with the out crowd is a bootleg cd of the
concert which can also be found on the official epic release live at the
uptown lounge.  it may contain other "bonus" material, however.  (someone
correct me here.)


>>and shades of indigo (with a florescent orange insert, no doubt!)

i've seen one of these; it was a bootleg.


anyway, just for grins, if you have originals of the cd promos, e-mail me
and tell me how much you paid for them, and when.  i'll compile the
information and post it to the list.

deanna

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 14:07:44 -0500
reply-to:     bethany perry <pbethan@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
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i could be mistaken, but i think i just resubscribed to the list the wrong
way....yes, i'm the idiot whose message says:

subscribe indigo-girls <big freakin' retard>

o.k....while i'm here i should probably talk, huh?!  uhhhh - no one has
sent me his/her bio yet....that's not good.....i need to have it printed
on the cover tape liner, so let's get crackin'! :)
i'll be honest - i haven't yet recorded my tape, but i'm gettin' on it
a.s.a.p....i'm so slow.
heard "all along the watchtower" in the dining hall today...i was
temporarily tuned out of the table conversation...decided that amy be
kickin' jimmy's butt when it comes to the "grooowlll.."  arrgh..
anyhoo - enough jabberin'...don't wanna get too detailed - i know y'all
don't care about my personal life *that* much.
i'm outta here. :)

-bethany :)

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> hi...i'm going to see the girls in sacramento on 1/28, and dh & the
> tantrums are opening for them.  so are they good?  anyone see them
> recently?  should we really get there in time for the opening act?

yes, yes and yes

by all means do whatever is necessary to get there to see them!  i hadn't
heard them at all the first time i saw them (which usually means an opening
act is hard to enjoy if you aren't familiar with them), but i enjoyed their
set hugely!  they were fun, a little weird, they played a variety of
styles, a little bit county a little bit rock and roll  and more! if you
know what i mean.

and if for no other reason, because they are a band that amy ray supports
whole-heartedly by having them on dameon.  if she thinks they rock, they
must rock...

and i bought their do a two sable cd at the show, it spends a lot of time
in my stereo.

my two and a half cents

kc1

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              this world was meant for me.  don't bury me. carry me.  ~ a.
ray
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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 14:46:20 -0400
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<fontfamily><param>geneva</param>beware*********beware*********beware*******=
**beware


it may already be too late !!!!!!!!!


        there is a new virus on the 'net. called "the end times virus" this
nasty program is spread via e-mail. it's the latest of a new strain of
viruses called  "prions" which were developed by the nsa for
international internet security. prions aren't even computer viruses in
the traditional sense, rather they are a new kind of self-extracting,
self executing binhex algorithm which can bypass all known forms of
computer security.


there is no defense.

     =20

what does "the end times virus" do?


the end times virus is spread via e-mail. every time you send mail to
someone through the 'net, it runs the risk of picking up a portion of
"the end times virus" code. when all parts of the virus are stored in a
given system, the program will self compile and self execute. "the end
times virus" will then begin an infinitely regressive binary loop,
which will increase the clock speed of your cpu. the net result of this
increase in clock speed will be an increase in the percieved passage of
time.


how can i tell if "the end times virus" has infected my system?


the first clue will be when a task that used to take "x" amount of time
seems to take longer. things that haven't happened yet will then begin
to occur.  eventually, the future will gradually merge with the
present, and then rapidly recede into the past. your computer system
will become obsolete at a much faster rate. your car will depreciate in
value. events, such as birthdays, weddings, vacations, etc. which
seemed to be far in the future will, before you know it, be over. you
will age rapidly, sometimes as much as 365 1/3 days per year!! your
children are not immune! they, too, will age rapidly, sometimes even
more rapidly than you. eventually the future, as you know it, will
cease to have meaning for you. it will become one with the past, and,
eventually, will run out all together.

     =20

what can i, as a concerned, thinking individual do about this threat to
our modern way of life?

=20

well, there are a few steps you can take:


      1) format your hard disk, without backing it up.  scientists have
found that this is the only way to eliminate this threat from infected
systems.

      2) get rid of your car! contact the e-mail address at the bottom
of this message, and highly trained technicians will come and remove
your car free of charge for proper disposal.

      3) live for the moment!! it may be all you have left. nobody is
going to have fun for you anymore.

      4) spread the word! let everyone you know hear about this threat,
call them, write to them, forward this message to them. get the word
out!!

***note: this is in fact sarcastic, if you didn't guess. it is pointing
out some of the sillyness of worrying about an e-mail virus.


back to lurking...


epp.

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 13:54:29 -0600
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at 12:51 pm -0600 1/20/98, deanna light wrote:
>actually, i read cathy's original query as meaning that the music store had
>*bootleg* copies of the allman brothers thing (club r&r), shades of indigo,
>and reverse 1.

i did too.

>all of these were promotional issues from epic, and
>original, non-bootleg copies are indeed hard to find and expensive to buy.
>my guess is that if he had "a million copies" of these items, that they're
>in fact not originals but bootlegs, and that $28 is pretty much the going
>rate for a single cd-bootleg.  in that case, then, it wouldn't be a "steal,"
>but an average bootleg price.

actually it would be a "steal" in the legal sense too. i don't want to come
across as taking the higher road here because i do possess concert tapes,
but cd boots of actual epic compiled and released material goes way beyond
what's "right". it's one thing that some ig promo items have become
collector's items and can fetch some dollars, it's quite another thing to
create illegal copies of those items for the sole purpose of making a
profit off of the fans.

seems to me that this situation smells familiar to what a certain former
atlanta store did. didn't that prompt a certain someone's ire.

deb

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 14:49:18 -0500
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danielle howle is a total cutie-pie!  i've only seen her live on that ppv
special the girls did last june, but she was great there!  i also have a cd
of hers, and that's great as well.  she's got a different style from the
girls, a little more southern and edgy.  you'll like her, i'm sure--she's
got a great stage personality!

shannon

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 14:19:42 -0600
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subject:      re: danielle howle!

danielle howle does have a great stage presence!  super cute and chatty in
between songs.  i saw her open for ig in chicago and thought she was great.  i
too appreciated the wide variety of styles in her music.  my friend and i
bought the "do a two sable" (hope i got that title right!) cd too...definitely
worth the $!  we met danielle outside of the venue after the show (she signed
our cd...yipee) and found her to be very gracious  and friendly.  she was even
the one who tipped us off that emily had not yet left the building as the
security guys had said.  :)  do go hear danille....you'll be glad you did!

pam

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 13:48:52 -0800
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in response to the "to cover or not to cover?"

i generally wince when i hear covers of songs that are so classic they
should never be covered, ever. but i gotta say "tangled up in blue" by ig
is a total gem, and it imparts its own meaning - especially with the girls
singing it (when i listen to it it's definitely about two women split
up but still longing for each other). amy and emily sing with so much
passion and intonation that even i , a dylan fan, have to say their
version is my preferred one. so i can't rule out that they shouldn't do
any covers. for instance - though i know their styles are completely
different, i can't help wondering what a cover by amy of ferron's
borderlines would be like.


just a thought...

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sorryu to bother everyone again, but i was wondering if anyone knew where
i could get the gay pride checks or the aids checks..thanks!!
                     have an indigo day!
                                jeanette

                so what is love then, is it dictated or chosen
                does it sing like the hyms of 1000 years or is
                it just pop emotion 'and if it was ever here and
                it left does it mean it never was true?
                                 emily sailers
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danielle is the best! i've had the opportunity to see them twice. the first
time in dayton, and then again in columbus. in dayton she was a trip! in
columbus we were a bit late for her set and i was dissappointed to not hear
it all, but they were great, if not a bit more subdued. i also had the
opportunity to meet with her both times after her sets, and also met the
guys in dayton. very sweet and adorable (all of them :-) ) danielle & the
tantrums are great, and their cd rocks! what fun!!! so do not miss
them!!!!!  also when a&e were here in columbus at cd-101 they really
plugged them! amy thinks they are great!

btw: does anyone know if there is a danielle howle and the tantrums mailing
list, like this one, yet?


heathera

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http://www.coil.com/~heathera/dharma/dharma.htm
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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 18:17:04 -0500
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well, i agree in part with whoever said that they prefer amy & emily's
original work to the covers they perform... in general. however, i think
one reason they do cover songs is as a way of supporting artists they
respect, and making sure their audiences know about them -- how many
people might never have heard of gerard mchugh if it weren't for "thin
line" on 1200c? -- as well as paying tribute to their influences (joni
mitchell, neil young, dylan). it's sort of a way to place their own work
on a musical map, situated among influences & peers. which i think is
kinda cool.

along those lines, there's a john gorka song called "raven in the storm"
that is just *begging* for amy to sing it. dar williams' "the ocean"
recently struck me as one that would be interesting in a "caramia" sort of
way. and for those who might be familiar with carrie newcomer, i've always
thought her "playing with matches" would be a rockin' cover (not to
mention it covers some of the same social-issues territory ig's tend to
favor).

-anne, babbling 'cause she doesn't feel like working


"we need new words/ for what this is, this hunger entering our/ loneliness
  like birds, stunning our eyes into rays/ of hope. we need the flutter that
  can save/ us, something that will swirl across the face/ of what we have
          become and bring us grace."  --lucille clifton, "blake"
*** anne haines ** ahaines@indiana.edu ** http://php.indiana.edu/~ahaines ***

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hi,
  i've been looking for michelle malone cds and some ig bootlegs with no
avail. any suggestions on where to look?


thanks,
chrisy

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anybody know who is opening for the monday 1/26 sf concert?
(i heard that danielle howle and the tantrums is with the
tuesday concert.)  thanks, -r

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miss jenny says:
<< i really dont' enjoy their covers >>

i can see what you mean about how their own stuff is best - i mean, nobody can
lyricize like them girls, but i have to disagree on the covers comment.  even
way back when all they did was covers, they made them their own with some
special harmonies and feelings in just the right places.  as i've said before,
i completely dig their versions of down by the river, r and j, and tuib, way
more than the originals, and i love all the originals.  oh well, to each their
own, right group?

bonnie

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i just want to add my name to the list of tantrums fans! i bumped into
danielle at the bar adjacent to the black cat before their december dc
show (sorry...whoa- you're danielle, and chatted for a minute, but was
kind of distant. a few hours later, they got to the stage, and before
they started playing she looked around, spotted me, waved, and said hi
from the stage. after the show, she came up to me and hugged me and
apologized (she had just woken up), and we talked for a while. it was a
great show, and they are all really cool people!

sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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hey y'all....

well..i have gotten a lot of answers to the question i posed to everyone
yesterday about being able to afford to go to concerts...and the
resounding answer was.......

                credit cards!!!!!!!!!!!!

as someone who is currently 10 grand in credit card debt, i won't
comment, but i also found that many people who do induldge themselves in
being "indigo-heads" (as we were called at blossom this past summer by
security, right don?) are the fortunate ones (no pun intended) who also
have very flexible and well paying jobs.....

as for the starving college student like me, it's mom and dad, student
loans, trust funds, the above mentioned credit card, and in one instance
(out of the 20 or so i received), the saving up and going without
*everything and anything else* to hit as many shows as one can afford
within reason, or, and this may be a big surprise to many on the list,
to *never* have gone because, unfortunately, they just can't afford it
due to the finer things in life like rent and food and heat and car and
schoolbooks....

if anyone out there is the starving student like me though (aka, the
above profile), and still manages to traverse across america, following
amy and emily, and you would like to disclose how you do so without
credit cards or help from ma and pa, please let me know....because i
wanna go to australia!!!!!  :)  ;)

peace-
karrie


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        -a&e

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 21:55:23 -0500
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subject:      danielle howle

well...i only heard one song by danielle howle from the
great woods ig show & that prompted me to buy
do a 2 sable....& it is awesome.
see them if you can.
jami
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strong and mean.  a.ray
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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 21:51:57 -0500
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can someone please post the url to the website for those wonderful ig
stamps.  i got a package today from lori who was so cool to stamp all of
them on there...made me want one!!!

st-st-st-st-st-steph

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in a message dated 98-01-20 21:41:34 est, karrie@ncinter.net writes:

<< well..i have gotten a lot of answers to the question i posed to everyone
yesterday about being able to afford to go to concerts...and the
resounding answer was.......

                 credit cards!!!!!!!!!!!! >>

well guys i was afraid of this.  let me warn you now from someone who has seen
the dark side of credit debt, unless you have rich parents to bail you out (in
which case you will never have to be truly financially responsible), be very
mindful of this trap.  you really lose the power of your money bybeing in
debt.  if i had it to do again, i'd take the example of the girls we all love
so dearly, and live a more simple life, give more money away, and save a hell
of a lot more.  man, i'd be so loaded right now if only....oh well, on the
flip side you're getting the memories of a lifetime!  let's all check back in
about 20 years and see how it goes.  frankly, what kind of depressed me about
thisi whole thread was that it really brought home to me the awful fact that i
do now have the dreaded mom mentality.  when did this happen?  when did i
cross the generational border?  i can just see myself saying scathingly,
"where do all these young people get this kind of money?" arghhh, it 's a
bitter pill let me tell you.  i must now sleep on this.

bonnie

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here it is, finally!

sorry to take so damn long!  the holiday season is a really bad time to
set up a tree and then there was that bought with the flu.  but i
digress.   it's been awhile since the set list was posted so here it is
again.

side a

3 hits
it's alright
secure yourself
least complicated
shame on you
let it be me
nueva senorita
shed your skin
get out the map
thin line
ghost


side b

scooter boys
hammer and a nail
romeo and juliet
chickenman (dave ellison's harmonica solo clipped - otherwise clean)
galileo
leeds
bury my heart...
closer to fine


just a reminder that i had a problem with bass distortion on this tape.
it's been cleaned up quite a bit but there is still some distortion on a
few songs.  otherwise the sound is very clear.  the whole show fits on
one 100 min. tape.  if you are interested in having a copy of the
orpheum theatre, boston 12/14/97 show you should contact the person
associated with your zodiac sign to make arrangements.  anyone should be
able to get a copy by sending a blank and a sase, but if you would like
to offer a trade, that's between you and your branch.


aries -         jana    <jana.montgomery@es.nemc.org>
taurus -       sam    <jmonfort@vannet.k12.wa.us>
gemini -       sasha    <indigofrk@aol.com>
cancer -       lorie     <loried@one.net>
leo -            resa    <resa@ipeg.com>
virgo -         therese    <tleung@wellesley.edu>
libra -         kristina    <cheesehed@juno.com>
scorpio -      susan    <scorpio7@sagami.or.jp>
sagittarius - chris    <guinione@aol.com>
capricorn -   jude    <hunterj1@aol.com>
aquarius -     mel    <melsouth1@hotmail.com>
pisces -         bon    <bonster@u.washington.edu>
australia -    sherlyn    <sherlyn@fl.net.au>


branches should use the following addresses for overflow; if you receive
more requests than you can handle (please try to take care of at least
10), please refer those folks to overflow branches as follows:

aries - cancer          alanna    <alannang@bu.edu>
leo - scorpio            melissa    <mfaurest@dmlo.com>
sagittarius - pisces    christian    <cbergquist@voyager.net>

thanks for your patience, everyone!  enjoy!
dianne

p.s.  thanks deb!

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 20:58:24 -0800
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i have to disagree on this one ---  i love it when they do covers, i like
thinking about why they choose the songs they choose to cover and what they
mean to a&e   plus, i think they sound better than the originals

ie; all along the watch tower, daddy's all gone, river, melissa, uncle
john's band, and tangled up in blue ---- hot!!!!

just my opinion,
thnks,
marybeth

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sure, here ya go. i bought 2 of them for my now ex-g/f and she absolutely
loved them.

<a href="http://members.aol.com/melaniekrs/igstamp.html">indigo girls stamp
</a>

michelle
<a href="http://members.aol.com/mreeves74/index.html">michelle's rainbow room
</a>

> can someone please post the url to the website for those wonderful ig
>  stamps.  i got a package today from lori who was so cool to stamp all of
>  them on there...made me want one!!!

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> to: chxnman <chxnman@aol.com>; indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject: re: cover question
> date: tuesday, january 20, 1998 8:58 pm
>
> i have to disagree on this one ---  i love it when they do covers, i like
> thinking about why they choose the songs they choose to cover and what
they
> mean to a&e   plus, i think they sound better than the originals
>
> ie; all along the watch tower, daddy's all gone, river, melissa, uncle
> john's band, and tangled up in blue ---- hot!!!!
>
> just my opinion,
> thnks,
> marybeth

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 23:18:50 -0500
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ok. there is already a change in the tree.  i checked my mail *after* i sent
this to the list the first time.  sadly, lorie cannot participate as a
branch.  here is the updated version.

i wrote (before i checked my inbox):

> here it is, finally!
>
> sorry to take so damn long!  the holiday season is a really bad time to
> set up a tree and then there was that bought with the flu.  but i
> digress.   it's been awhile since the set list was posted so here it is
> again.
>
> side a
>
> 3 hits
> it's alright
> secure yourself
> least complicated
> shame on you
> let it be me
> nueva senorita
> shed your skin
> get out the map
> thin line
> ghost
>
> side b
>
> scooter boys
> hammer and a nail
> romeo and juliet
> chickenman (dave ellison's harmonica solo clipped - otherwise clean)
> galileo
> leeds
> bury my heart...
> closer to fine
>
> just a reminder that i had a problem with bass distortion on this tape.
> it's been cleaned up quite a bit but there is still some distortion on a
> few songs.  otherwise the sound is very clear.  the whole show fits on
> one 100 min. tape.  if you are interested in having a copy of the
> orpheum theatre, boston 12/14/97 show you should contact the person
> associated with your zodiac sign to make arrangements.  anyone should be
> able to get a copy by sending a blank and a sase, but if you would like
> to offer a trade, that's between you and your branch.
>
> aries -         jana    <jana.montgomery@es.nemc.org>
> taurus -       sam    <jmonfort@vannet.k12.wa.us>
> gemini -       sasha    <indigofrk@aol.com>
> cancer -       christian    <cbergquist@voyager.net>
> leo -            resa    <resa@ipeg.com>
> virgo -         therese    <tleung@wellesley.edu>
> libra -         kristina    <cheesehed@juno.com>
> scorpio -      susan    <scorpio7@sagami.or.jp>
> sagittarius - chris    <guinione@aol.com>
> capricorn -   jude    <hunterj1@aol.com>
> aquarius -     mel    <melsouth1@hotmail.com>
> pisces -         bon    <bonster@u.washington.edu>
> australia -    sherlyn    <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
>
> branches should use the following addresses for overflow; if you receive
> more requests than you can handle (please try to take care of at least
> 10), please refer those folks to overflow branches as follows:
>
> aries - cancer          alanna    <alannang@bu.edu>
> leo - scorpio            melissa    <mfaurest@dmlo.com>

sagittarius - pisces     me (until further notice)
<tuesdayschild@pc-webonics.com>

> thanks for your patience, everyone!  enjoy!
> dianne
>
> p.s.  thanks deb!
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i would like to here them do a cover of lou reed's sweet jane -- the cowboy
junkies do a good cover of it.
i would also like to here them do a cover of john gorka's "silence"

thanks,
mb

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 22:27:47 est
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anne said:

"and for those who might be familiar with carrie newcomer, i've always
thought her "playing with matches" would be a rockin' cover (not to
mention it covers some of the same social-issues territory ig's tend to
favor)."

three cheers for the carrie newcomer plug!!!  she is one of the most wonderful
and honest performers i've had the chance to see.  a bit more folky/bluegrassy
than the girls current work, but along the same social/spiritual wavelength.
i'd recommend "the bird or the wing" (her 3rd album) as a good starting place
for getting into her music...for those of you who have heard her, can't you
see them doing "closer to home" with emily doing lead vocals (though after
hearing her do "redemption song", i'd almost rather hear amy sing it), or "the
bird or the wing?"

peace,
shelley

"we will meet again i'm sure
someday when out heartaches are cured
and we'll walk like friends, embrace again
much closer to home we'll be then..."   --carrie newcomer

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date:         tue, 20 jan 1998 21:36:10 -0800
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ok everyone,

i've always wondered and never asked but who knows why the ig picked the
name "indigo girls"?

mb  :-)

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on tue, 20 jan 1998, karrie wrote:

>
> as someone who is currently 10 grand in credit card debt, i won't
> comment, but i also found that many people who do induldge themselves in
> being "indigo-heads" (as we were called at blossom this past summer by
> security, right don?) are the fortunate ones (no pun intended) who also
> have very flexible and well paying jobs.....


so, since i'm graduating this year and would like to be able to continue
to support my indigo habit, i was just wondering what these very flexible
and well paying jobs are????  if you have one, please let me know!

-jenn :)


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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 00:54:27 -0500
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amy saw the word "indigo" in the dictionary and thought it looked cool.
that's it--i think it's kinda cool, personally! ;)

have a great night, y'all, it's my bedtime!

shannon

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 00:27:45 -0500
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hey--whenever the girls are mentioned in national magazines i like to just
make mention of it.  the feb 3 1998 issue of the advocate has a mini
mention that made me laugh because it relates to an often discussed topic
on the list--a and e's personal lives.  well here it is:

page 10 in the quote unquote section

"she's not my type, and i'm not hers."---indigo girls' amy ray, when asked
whether she and her musical partner, emily saliers, were ever involved
romantically, in the january issue of curve

that's it.  i just like seeing them mentioned.  i am sure you all knew that
was mentioned when the curve article was discussed.

oh and a quick answer to how young folks afford to road trip with ig all
year--visa!  i think i'm still paying off my concerts at radio city in
1994.  now young-uns, don't try that at home with your own visa card.  it
is strictly for experts with seasoned training in credit card transferring
from one high interest account to a low interest one and back.  :):)  see
ya

greg

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how abotu take a walk on the wild side ??m<g>

on tue, 20 jan 1998, valued compaq customer wrote:

> i would like to here them do a cover of lou reed's sweet jane -- the cowboy
> junkies do a good cover of it.
> i would also like to here them do a cover of john gorka's "silence"

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subject:      nigc:  trying to reach julia c. peacock

hey all, sorry to waste the bandwidth, but julia, if you read this, please
contact me.  it's important.

cheryl

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greg <gflame@megsinet.net> wrote:

> oh and a quick answer to how young folks afford to road trip with ig
> all year--visa!  i think i'm still paying off my concerts at radio
> city in 1994.  now young-uns, don't try that at home with your own
> visa card. it is strictly for experts with seasoned training in credit
> card transferring from one high interest account to a low interest one
> and back.

even "for experts with seasoned training in credit card transferring
from one high interest account to a low interest one and back," such as
myself...

greg (who i fear is not as seasoned as yours truly) neglected to mention
that eventually (without that trust fund, or without those 'rents able
and *willing* <ahem> to bale one out, or without that fantastically high
paying job, or without that winning lottery ticket)... eventually it all
_really _does_ catch up... and it can do so with a slap in the face and
a kick in the ass.

i say this as one whose face and ass have felt better... much, much,
much better...

:o)
peace...

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let's have some big time fun! i have a teenie-weenie plea!  i have faith
that y'all can help me! if we all work together we can do it! in the
immortal words of tootle the train, i think i can, i think i can, i know i
can, i know i can, i know i can! gracious, i'm getting chills; this is gonna
be sooooo much fun! hey, enlist the help of friends, relatives, and
strangers too! you know the saying, 'the more the merrier!' are you curious?
what the hell am i talking about?  be patient!

i come to you with great optimism that someone out there can help me. first,
let me say there is nothing that i abhor more than the really stupid annual
science fair! the student's exhibit is suppose to be a joint collaboration
of parent & student. what a joke! parents' science fair would be a more
appropriate title for this exercise in parental torture.

anyway, the time has come for the dreaded science fair! april marie, my 6th
grader, and i desperately need your help!  i've tried everything to avoid
this painful experience. (can you tell i hate science?)  trust me, i am
willing to sink to unbelievable depths rather than take part in a science
fair. can you believe april marie's science teacher refused a bribe? in
desperation, i even resorted to a feeble attempt to recruit a science fair
surrogate parent for my child. sadly, no takers, which means i must pick up
the slack. sooo, i need to come up with an idea, specifics, details, &
instructions for our @#$%&* science project.

come on guys, let's unite!!! if y'all put on your thinking caps, i'm
confident we can come up with an easy, idiot proof, science project that
april marie and i can enjoy (snicker snicker) together. any and all
suggestions will be greatly appreciated. also, i am more than willing to
offer a substantial monetary gift to anyone who supplies me with a completed
science project.

thanks everyone - y'all are sooooo terrific!

have fun, stay safe, be happy & enjoy,
barbara

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>so, since i'm graduating this year and would like to be able to
>continue to support my indigo habit, i was just wondering what these
>very flexible and well paying jobs are????

i hear that being the ceo of a major corporation pays pretty well.
or there's always the fallback position: best-selling novelist.  but
perhaps most of us will be stuck working humdrum position as lobbyists
or motivational speakers.
hope that helps...
peace-nic


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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 09:34:43 -0500
reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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in-reply-to:  <015501bd263c$54c790a0$52e6accf@user> from barbara corrice at
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how much for my doctoral thesis?  i might actualy get some use out of
it then....

seriously, there are a bunch of books out there on science projects
for kids.  good ones.  pond water and microscopes checking out all the
wee beasties.  growing two seedlings with varying amounts of light.
placing 10 aphids on an ivy, putting it in a closed space and
monitoring how many aphids are around as the days progress.  reaction
time experiments trying to catch a ruler as it falls beneath your
fingers (look for the effects of aging, what time of day the
experiment was performed).  memory experiments -- did you know that
the human short term memory is only capable of remembering about 6
things at once?  these could be letters, words, numbers -- but only
about 6 things (which is why phone numbers can be such a pain).  this
ability varies among people, with age, level of alertness, the amount
of coffee someone has had -- but usually ends up being between 5 and 7.

anyway, most books walk you through these things.  its a little more
fun and interesting if you make one additional twist to make the
experiment your own.

                                good luck,

                                   chris


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hi folks-

re: superbowl sunday, jan 25

for those who do not love american football, and/or who do not live in
the upper mid-western us, and/or who do not enjoy the unabashedly
hyped-up american spectacle of modern day over-paid gladiator teams
masquerading as role models of masculinity as they attempt to violently
beat each other into submission, and/or who will not be busy
roadtripping between portland, or and san francisco, ca:

on sun jan 25, 1998 - evening:

(note: all times est - pm)

8:30   vh1   vh1 to one - janet jackson: discusses _velvet_rope_,
                                         her struggle w/ depression, etc

9:00   vh1   behind the scenes - lilith fair (w/ ig, et al) [repeat #98]

10:00  vh1   legends - profile of tina turner

11:00  vh1   storytellers - melissa etheridge (performs and discusses
                                                     her music)

or: you could go on-line, play with your puter, & post to the ig list.

(just another possiblity for those forced to share a tv w/ those who
_do_not_ fit the profile at top of page...)


[mel: hoping i get flamed for my description of football, and looking
forward to defending myself... by private e-mail, of course!]  ;o)

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subject:      re: let's have some fun!!!!!
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dear barbara,
i think i can help you guys out. i was a big winner at the science fair
from 4th through 6th grade and have some good ideas... my mother may even
still have the projects. here are 2 ideas:

the effects of cigarette smoke on plants:  make two "terrariums" out of a
cardboard box and saran wrap. put 2 plants in each and for a week or
whatever you pump smoke from a cigarette (we used a syringe kind of thing)
into one of them. feed them both the same amount of water. you will be
able to record the results as the plants begin to die... the report itself
is simple, research a tiny bit on photosynthesis and stuff like that and
draw conclusions...

oh actually i'll bet that you don't have enough time left to do any of my
other ones... let me know if you like this idea and i'll see what i've
got.

shayna

on wed, 21 jan 1998, barbara corrice wrote:

> let's have some big time fun! i have a teenie-weenie plea!  i have faith
> that y'all can help me! if we all work together we can do it! in the
> immortal words of tootle the train, i think i can, i think i can, i know i
> can, i know i can, i know i can! gracious, i'm getting chills; this is gonna
> be sooooo much fun! hey, enlist the help of friends, relatives, and
> strangers too! you know the saying, 'the more the merrier!' are you curious?
> what the hell am i talking about?  be patient!
>
> i come to you with great optimism that someone out there can help me. first,
> let me say there is nothing that i abhor more than the really stupid annual
> science fair! the student's exhibit is suppose to be a joint collaboration
> of parent & student. what a joke! parents' science fair would be a more
> appropriate title for this exercise in parental torture.
>
> anyway, the time has come for the dreaded science fair! april marie, my 6th
> grader, and i desperately need your help!  i've tried everything to avoid
> this painful experience. (can you tell i hate science?)  trust me, i am
> willing to sink to unbelievable depths rather than take part in a science
> fair. can you believe april marie's science teacher refused a bribe? in
> desperation, i even resorted to a feeble attempt to recruit a science fair
> surrogate parent for my child. sadly, no takers, which means i must pick up
> the slack. sooo, i need to come up with an idea, specifics, details, &
> instructions for our @#$%&* science project.
>
> come on guys, let's unite!!! if y'all put on your thinking caps, i'm
> confident we can come up with an easy, idiot proof, science project that
> april marie and i can enjoy (snicker snicker) together. any and all
> suggestions will be greatly appreciated. also, i am more than willing to
> offer a substantial monetary gift to anyone who supplies me with a completed
> science project.
>
> thanks everyone - y'all are sooooo terrific!
>
> have fun, stay safe, be happy & enjoy,
> barbara
>
>                                      *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
> if you're not outraged, then you're not paying attention!
>                                 bcorrice@wam.umd.edu
>                                      *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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okay, as for flexible, work at a college. i do, and i get 25 sick days, 25
vacation days, and a week+ at christmas (for free)  all paid. the money
isn't great, but the job is fun and benefits are amazing. i'm pretty sure
most colleges have the same deal. work in an office. i work in the
education dept. another benefit is that if you want to go to grad school,
they pay!

on wed, 21 jan 1998, nicola nelson wrote:

> >so, since i'm graduating this year and would like to be able to
> >continue to support my indigo habit, i was just wondering what these
> >very flexible and well paying jobs are????
>
> i hear that being the ceo of a major corporation pays pretty well.
> or there's always the fallback position: best-selling novelist.  but
> perhaps most of us will be stuck working humdrum position as lobbyists
> or motivational speakers.
> hope that helps...
> peace-nic
>
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this was on the ig newsgroup this morning. anyone know anything about
this? has anyone ever dealt with this company before?

deanna


>"the devil's in our bones"
>early recordings: volume 3
>released january 20, 1998
>discs are individually numbered and limited to 1000 copies

>1. crazy game (emily saliers) from indigo girls single, 1985

>2. everybody's waiting (for someone to come home) (amy ray) from
>indigo girls single, 1985

>3. don't give up on me baby (emily saliers) from don't eat out of
>dented cans lp, 1986

>4. walk away (amy ray) from don't eat out of dented cans lp, 1986

>5. heartache central time (unknown) recorded at haynes b. studio, 1986

>6. emily's song (emily saliers) from theatre emory's production of
>"curse of the starving class", 1986

>7. beautiful guitar (emily saliers) from theatre emory's production of
>"curse of the starving class", 1986

>8. instrumental #3 (emily saliers) from theatre emory's production of
>"curse of the starving class", 1986

>9. play it again, sam (emily saliers) live, rollick, 1987

>10. ballad of squeaky fromme (amy ray) live, 1987

>11. summertime (george gershwin) live w/anne richardson, little five
>points pub, 1987

>12. white house blues (caroline aiken) live w/sandy garfinkle, little
>five points pub, 1987

>13. blood & fire (amy ray) from strange fire (original lp release),
>1987

>14. life's so strange (emily saliers) from first epic sessions, 1989

>15. up in smoke (emily saliers) from first epic sessions, 1989

>16. nashville (amy ray) from first epic sessions, 1989

>17. prince of darkness (emily saliers) from first epic sessions, 1989

>18. no way to treat a friend  (emily saliers) from first epic
>sessions, 1989

>total disc time: 71:27

>available exclusively through musicdrome (01) 770-449-4982

>price: $28 (us) + $4 shipping (flat rate in continental us only)

>other indigo girls items available through musicdrome:

>"the ep and more" - early recordings: volume 1
>"levees that break in my heart" - early recordings: volume 2
>history of us
>in with the out crowd
>reverse 1 (copy)
>shades of indigo (copy)

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>yeah, 'big love' would be great!

my sister used to think the words to that song were:  "looking out for
love ... beep, beep, love."  heheheehe  :)  of course this is the same
person who, when she was about 4, was singing "abcdefg kaytch i kk kel
mnop...."  aren't sisters just the greatest things ever?  :)))

>i was just thinking this morning, i'd love to hear them play 'sara',
>but then everyone would think they're singing to their bass player!  :)

and what's wrong with that? hehehe  sara is awesome.  she waved at me and
my sis.  we had front row center tickets to dec 9 iu show and she made eye
contact with me one time and i waved at her and she waved back ... then
later when they were all taking bows she looked straight at me and did a
little private bow for me.  :)))))   i think they should sing to sara! :)
hehhee

>which makes me wonder, am i the only lister from milwaukee?

barb, i don't know if you're interested but the recent nadc righteous
babe reader came out and ani will be playing milwakee sometime in april
i believe.  if you like her you might want to check it out.  :)

- rick

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hi y'all!
i am the one who posted about my mock senate class and the ig bill that i
planned to write.  well, it is done now.  i will not post it to the list,
but if anyone wants a copy, please e-mail me and i'll gladly e-mail it to
you!

:-) karen

ps- i did not do the statue idea.  instead i propose to name a highway
after them because i ended up on the "highways and transportation
committee" (among others).

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"when you're learning to face, the path at your pace, every choice is
worth your while."  --indigo girls (emily)

"your actions will follow you full circle round."  --indigo girls (amy)

"but we love trees, we love the snow, the friends we have, the world we
share, and you find magic from your god, and we find magic everywhere."
        --dar williams

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mel wrote:


> greg (who i fear is not as seasoned as yours truly) neglected to mention
> that eventually (without that trust fund, or without those 'rents able
> and *willing* <ahem> to bale one out, or without that fantastically high
> paying job, or without that winning lottery ticket)... eventually it all
> _really _does_ catch up... and it can do so with a slap in the face and
> a kick in the ass.
>
> i say this as one whose face and ass have felt better... much, much,
> much better...
>

yes mel, my ass has been much better as well.  10 grand in credit card
debt and hating bank of america more and more as days pass....  :)


as a brief aside, what do y'all think caused my mother to ask this
question, anyhoo??  she found a statement for a credit card that she and
i have together (one of those for emergency use only while you are at
school-type deals)and was looking at it more closely and saw
"ticketmaster $92" on it.  she was like, "what the hell is this???????"

how do you explain to your mom that you just had to go to lilith fair??
how do you tell her  "but ma, that is where i met amy ray" when she
really doesn't give two shits about amy ray, she is concerned about the
spending of 92 dollars that you don't have.  then she adds in the fact
that i had already done other ig shows already,a dn what about gasoline,
and hats, and pictures and bootleg tapes, and wear and tear on your )now
dead) bronco..and well...as any of you with parents know, it just
snowballs from there.....

yup, my ass has felt much better!!!

(btw, don't flame my mom for not being an ig fan....she has never been
much of a folkie to begin with. she is much more a kenny rogers type
listener...)
**********************************************************************

>nic wrote:

>
> i hear that being the ceo of a major corporation pays pretty well.
> or there's always the fallback position: best-selling novelist.  but
> perhaps most of us will be stuck working humdrum position as lobbyists
> or motivational speakers.
> hope that helps...
> peace-nic
>


i am going to be a lobbyist!!!!  yay!!!  something to look forward to!
no flexibility there!!  :)  guess that these college years are going to
be all the a&e i will ever know.....  :)


now, one final question...does anyone know where i can get a copy of the
jcs video????  i need to complete my collection.
and thanks mel, for the info on lilith...the last time the re-ran it on
vh-1, i was about 10 minutes shy of getting the tape in the vcr.  cool.

peace-
karrie

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 15:42:14 +0000
reply-to:     matthew j smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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on wed, 21 jan 1998, deanna k. newcomb wrote:

> this was on the ig newsgroup this morning. anyone know anything about
> this? has anyone ever dealt with this company before?

this is a bit more than a bootleg - it's a pirate recording which contains
material from the original strange fire album, and other commercially
released recordings.   this is exactly what amy objected to a year ago
when rainy day records started selling "levees that break in my heart" and
"the ep & more", and this appears to be the third volume.

when i saw this on the group, i sent copies of it straight to mindspring
(the isp used to send it, under a false name), and russell carter
management.   this idiot seems to have picked on the wrong company,
because mindspring are also the isp which will be hosting rcm's web page
(see http://www.rcam.com/), so it's likely that they'll want words with
whoever is responsible.

mat

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 11:04:25 -0400
reply-to:     sarah o'farrell <sofarrel@scott.skidmore.edu>
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hey, y'all.

        i've been away on break for the past month, so forgive me if i'm
bringing up a topic that's already been touched upon.  right before i left,
i remember reading in one of the digests about amy being interviewed in the
january issue of curve magazine.  being the terribly uncultured person i
am, i never heard of that publication before reading those posts and
decided to make it a mission to become aquainted with it.  i looked all
over break for that mag, to no avail.  needless to say,  i don't live in an
area with terribly sophisticated bookstores and newstands.  is that issue
still on the stands or does anyone have any helpful hints as to how i can
obtain a copy?  if any of you have an extra copy for some reason or another
or could find one for me, i have a pretty extensive boot list, ig and other
related artists.  thanks in advance for any help or info.

                        take care and be happy,

                                sarah :-)

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on a tv interview - amy explained how they got the name 'indigo girls.'
they were going by saliers & ray at the time and were opening for john
sebastian (or someone else) at the moonshadow club in atl and wanted a
name that sounded more like a band name, so they changed their name to the
indigo girls (after amy found a dictionary, of course).

n.


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[sent to newsgroup, cc'ed to list]

this is a pirate recording, and is totally illegal and unethical.   it
contains unauthorised copies of songs which were on official releases, and
thus constitutes theft.   anyone who was on this newsgroup or on the
mailing list last summer will remember that amy and russel carter came
down on rainy day records like a ton of bricks for selling earlier
recordings on this series.

and besides, you have no guarantee of the quality of the live recordings
on this cd.   they may be off the soundboard, or they could have been
recorded on a cheap dictaphone in the audience, and even if the former,
they may not be of spectacular quality.   (i've got history of us, which
is afaik an off-the-soundboard recording, and most of the songs are not
all that good quality.)

do not even think of giving these people your credit card number!   they
could well be conmen (what legitimate businessman/woman uses a false email
address anyway??), and even if they are not, it could well happen that the
police raid their shop before they get to process your order.   rcam and
mindspring have both been tipped off, and i know for a fact that people
close to amy have been informed.

you have been warned.

mat

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>this was on the ig newsgroup this morning. anyone know anything about
>this? has anyone ever dealt with this company before?
>
>deanna
>
>
>>"the devil's in our bones"
>>early recordings: volume 3
>>released january 20, 1998
>>discs are individually numbered and limited to 1000 copies

the company in question was musicdrome, which is actually a cd store in
atlanta (at the junction of 140 and 141, jimmy carter and peachtree
industrial, i think) that i've bought things at a number of times.  i've
bought a variety of things there, and have never been disappointed with them.
i don't know who's actually *issuing* the cd, but i've certainly never had
any problems with this *shop* that's selling them.

fyi, though, i called to order a copy of the volume 3 disc as soon as i saw
this message come across, and the guy there told me that i was buying the
last one they currently had available -- and that they'd had calls from all
over the usa (indiana, california, massachusetts, and now washington dc,
which is were i was calling from).  he did say that he expected to have more
in within the next few days, but couldn't promise how many or when.

my advice would be to keep checking back in the next few days and see if
they've got any more.  good luck!

deanna
(transplanted atlantan in washington, dc)

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you wrote:
=)i generally wince when i hear covers of songs that are so classic they
=)should never be covered, ever. but i gotta say "tangled up in blue" by ig
=)is a total gem, and it imparts its own meaning

        i totally agree... tuib is a great cover.  i think i'd be
hard-pressed to say that i prefer it to the dylan version, but it
really is a great performance.  maybe i tend to favor the dylan
version because i saw him perform it last year, standing 10 feet from
the living legend himself.  it was religious experience... but i
digress.
        i also really love their cover of "down by the river,"
originally by neil young with crazy horse.  what neil young's version
has in an all-out rock-ish quality, the girls' version makes up for in
fluidity, grace, and beauty.  in this case, i have to say that i love both
versions equally, each for their own great qualities.

        that's all for now, i guess...
        mike feeney

        "she was married when we first met,
        soon to be divorced
        i helped her out of a jam, i guess
        but i used a little too much force..."          -bd-

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subject:      re: another i.g. cover

>hmmmm...i've been thinking today - i'd really like to hear amy & emly
>cover more fleetwood mac.

i've been hoping for years that they'd cover some nicks/buckingham era
fm, but since fm reunited and went on tour i figure it's never gonna
happen.  there are some songs which would be perfect though because
of the cryptic stevie nicks lyrics for amy, the great lindsey buckingham
guitar work for emily, and the great harmonies.  oh well...maybe in
another life :)

that being said, here are a couple of songs that i'd like to
see ig cover:
1. walk this way (aerosmith, amy vocals, emily electric guitar)
2. crazy love (van morrison, amy vocals)
3. salisbury hill (peter gabriel, amy vocals)
4. maybe i'm amazed (paul mccartney, amy vocals, em guitar :)

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 15:17:28 -0500
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hi all!
  after two years on the list i rarely pop out of lurking to post anymore
(besides my monthly plea to not post "what happened to the list" when you
stop getting the list--i mean, if it's down, no one can see the post
anyway, and it crashed some people's accounts to suddenly receive four
hundred or so posts after a delay) but after reading the past month's
posts, i have to say something. i'm sure that it won't be well received,
and i'm really ready for flameage, but i can't sit by and be silent any
longer!
     i am a huge indigo girls fan...i've seen them five times, with hopes
of more, have all their albums, videos, extensive bootlegs, seen all of
their tv appearances, etc. but i can't take this worshipful attitude that
many people here are starting to develop!  amy and emily (if i may call
them that, as i haven't met them, because i refuse to be some slobbering
fan)are just people!  i've seen posts here that treat the girls like they
are demi-god(desse)s and i can't take it! i mean, i have plenty of reasons
to look up to them in some sort of awe, as i'm a part time musician
myself and i know how much dedication and talent they must put into their
work, but it's this very attitude of hero-worship that many of you here
are adopting that makes emily and amy very nervous about this list and the
public in general.  it's the fawning, awestruck fans that scare them
enough to keep them out of the general public at larger shows now.
    think about it folks--don't make the indigo girls larger than
life...or we might lose them all together...
                  very seriously,
                       sharoane

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 13:35:01 est
reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      get a haircut and get a real job nigc

--- shayna wrote:
okay, as for flexible, work at a college. i do, and i get 25 sick days, 25
vacation days, and a week+ at christmas (for free)  all paid. the money
isn't great, but the job is fun and benefits are amazing. i'm pretty sure
most colleges have the same deal. work in an office. i work in the
education dept. another benefit is that if you want to go to grad school,
they pay!
--- end of quote ---
here here shayna! working at a college *rules*. not only do they give you tons
of vacation time (i get 22 days a year plus nine national holidays and "no
count" sick time), but you get to spend your days with fun, wonderful, amazing
humans ages 18-22 (and up). compared to my past careers of working at wendy's
and being the head kitty castrator at the local vet clinic, this one takes the
cake-ola!

down side: cash flow. you'll never get rich working at a college, unless you
are a full professor (some of em at darty make $150,000 a year and up!) or work
in the areas of alumni relations and/or development/finance. oh yeah, you could
also be the president....the president here makes $400 k a year, with a free
house and car. that'll buy you a helluva lot of concert tickets!

sus
who knows of a great science experiment in progress, but doesn't want to yank
it out from under her bed just now ;)

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 15:51:29 -0500
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ack...ig covering fleetwood mac??
the originals make me shudder...i can't imagine my reaction to a cover
by my favorite duo...
sorry, no accounting for (my) taste...
         sharoane, who didn't feel like lurking today...
on wed, 21 jan
1998, lauree shampine
wrote:

> >hmmmm...i've been thinking today - i'd really like to hear amy & emly
> >cover more fleetwood mac.
>
> i've been hoping for years that they'd cover some nicks/buckingham era
> fm, but since fm reunited and went on tour i figure it's never gonna
> happen.  there are some songs which would be perfect though because
> of the cryptic stevie nicks lyrics for amy, the great lindsey buckingham
> guitar work for emily, and the great harmonies.  oh well...maybe in
> another life :)
>
> that being said, here are a couple of songs that i'd like to
> see ig cover:
> 1. walk this way (aerosmith, amy vocals, emily electric guitar)
> 2. crazy love (van morrison, amy vocals)
> 3. salisbury hill (peter gabriel, amy vocals)
> 4. maybe i'm amazed (paul mccartney, amy vocals, em guitar :)
>
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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 14:21:34 -0500
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from:         carolyn e turett <ceturett@juno.com>
subject:      a tragedy...for me

so i'm home from school miserably sick today, and the higher beings
obviously don't understand my love of ig...as i was watching watershed to
make myself feel better i threw up right in the middle of the hammer and
nail video! :(  so then i had to rewind cuz i missed the part where amy
was taking off her socks in the background...what a bad day!  ok, thanks
for sharing, carolyn...

love,
carolyn

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all the world is lost to me and all the world is found
all the world is echooing my lonely wandering sound
i hear it all tigether now, i wish that i had known
that if we sing the same song we cannot be alone...
~~ from "frosty's time"

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date:         thu, 22 jan 1998 07:39:46 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey guys,

i'm sure you're getting sick of me hammering these points
into the ground, and i'm getting a bit tired of it too...

1. don't quote other people's entire messages when replying
        to the list.

2. don't use enormously long sigs with the list.

3. please, take private/nigc discussions (eg the science
        fair thing) the private mail.

ta,
sherlyn, who actually had something non-scolding to say but
can't remember what it was...
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"when you wake up from this night, oh yes there'll be a morning;
the sun's gonna be shining bright, with new ideas dawning.
and when you wake up from this night, we'll start a new beginning,
show the earth her due respect, create new laws for living..."
                                - sally fingerett

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 14:56:08 -0600
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sharoane,

i think you make a very good point. i have also felt uncomfortable with
the tone of "worship" that has seemed to be prevalent in some of the
posts on the list as of late.

it has been reported that a+e are somewhat apprehensive about the
existence of the list and the usenet group. who can blame them? often
stars with obsessive fans end up losing their freedom and become
prisoners of their own fame, or worse. remember the actress, rebecca
shaffer (i think), who was killed by an obsessed fan? or the woman who
continually broke in to david letterman's home, claiming to be his wife?
i think it would be totally terrifying and completely disturbing to have
people calling you a god or goddesses. people deified often don't fare
so well in the end (jesus, john lennon).

for me it comes down to respect. a+e have expressed that they wish folks
would not discuss their personal lives, and imho we owe it to them to
honor and respect their wishes on that subject. imho, it is a good idea
when posting to take a moment and ask myself "how would a+e feel if they
read this?" or "how would i feel if someone i didn't know said this
about me?"

and let's be honest here (i know i am going to get flamed on this one)
they really aren't goddesses. well, not anymore or less than anyone
else. they are very talented and gifted musicians/songwriters. we are
all lucky that they share that part of themselves with us. and if we are
grateful (as i am) for what their music brings to our lives, perhaps we
can repay a bit of the happiness and joy they give to us by refraining
from discussions that may make them feel uncomfortable.

just a thought.

peace,

dan perkins

"hey j.c. j.c. will you die for me..."
                      -jcs

>-----original message-----
>from:  sharon parker [smtp:parkersd@violet.umfacad.maine.edu]
>sent:  wednesday, january 21, 1998 2:17 pm
>to:    indigo-girls@netspace.org
>subject:       they aren't goddesses
>
>. but i can't take this worshipful attitude that
>    think about it folks--don't make the indigo girls larger than
>life...or we might lose them all together...
>                  very seriously,
>                       sharoane
>

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 16:16:11 -0400
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hey, y'all.

        just wanted to let you know that i have found someone who is
willing to get the curve magazine for me (muchas gracias, leslie!).  thanks
to everyone who offered to help me out.

                        sarah :-)

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 16:03:44 est
reply-to:     beanz17 <beanz17@aol.com>
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the best place ive ever found good ig posters is at  music conventions.  one
comes through here twice a year,  they have old vinyls,  collectables, rare
stuff, and posters and pictures of everyone  with a singing voice.   i found
exellent  photo close ups of amy and emily,   and i put them in a picture
frame and now they look like  part of my family pictures !

happy hunting !

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 15:19:45 -0600
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whatever happened to that bad pic of amy someone was inquiring about the
other day? does anyone have it or the url? please respond. it definitly
has my curiousity up.

jenn =)

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i  have to share this with everyone.  last year at the austin concert  someone
held up a sign during the song galileo.   on the front is said.....

" i was emily's wife in my former lifetime !  "     ... and on the back is
said....

"  really i was !  "

this sign got lots of applause and  woohoo's  from everyone.   just had to
share !

amy

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 13:45:25 -0600
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subject:      re: they aren't goddesses
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        another almost 2-year member of the list who rarely posts, but still
lurks.  howdy.  :-)

        i have to strongly agree with shar and with dan.  i cannot blame ig at all
for their apprehension about their "vehement" fans.  they will be here in a
couple days, and a local paper ran an article about them and almost the
entire article was about how "fervent" and "intense" the fans of ig are.
the article was more about fans than about ig or about the music.  i can't
imagine that makes them feel good.  personally, i think i'd be terrified to
be 'worshipped' the way some of the posts seem to imply ig are.  they are
people like you or i.  they are extremely good at their chosen profession,
and they have an incredible ability to reach other souls through their
music.  i admire that.  i respect that.  sometimes listening to their
songs, live or even recorded when the winds blows just right, can reach my
heart and soul like nothing else... but that is because they are so good at
what they do.  not goddesses, just damn great musicians.  in their "real
lives" i am certain they are great people to be around and their friends
and family love them... just like any of us.  i respect their activism, and
their modeling has certainly made me more aware and more activist myself.
i respect them.  i admire them.  i may, on occasion, worship the music....
but the people behind the music, i think, deserve more than a high-pedestal.

tracy

"mrs. peel, we're needed."
        - the avengers
~~~^~^~~~~^~^~^~^~~~~^~~~^~^^~~~^
the whole crew is  w/ our mountains!
  tracy, jeni, true, molly, holly dabear, and river
        now with our web site at:
http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/5195/

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someone wrote:
> whatever happened to that bad pic of amy someone was inquiring about
> the other day? does anyone have it or the url? please respond. it
> definitly has my curiousity up.

the server for the web page with *that* amy pic (which i didn't take,
btw <ahem>) has been temporarily down since last thur 1/15.

lynda's michelle malone page: (which really is great!)

   http://www.csg-soft.com/newtest/lynda/mypages/michelle/mmhome.html

just to see the amy pic - click on "amy" at:

   http://www.csg-soft.com/newtest/lynda/mypages/michelle/nye98.html

you will *not* be able to access these pages until csg-soft.com gets
it's server back on-line... which should be... sometime in 1998! (right,
lynda?!)  ;op

:o)
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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 16:59:33 -0500
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hey all.

i hope everyone out there is doing at least a little better than i am (that's
not saying much unfortunately).  but rather than just dump my personal sh** out
here with no mention of ig at all (a blatant disregard for sherlyn's desperate
pleas), i thought i would turn this whole thing into another song interpretation
thread.  maybe this is an obvious one, but since this song has become my life
during the past 24 hours, i'm gonna do it and see how it goes over.

so anyway, blood and fire...means to me...knowing that you should let go but not
really wanting to.  and there's nothing left to hang onto, but still you can't
let go.  wanting something that isn't good for you. and not even caring that it
might destroy you.

a few lines:

"leaning over edges, only two flights up"

that's odd cause *i* live on the stupid second floor of my house.  parallel
existances i guess...

"i feel forsaken like the things i gave away"

to interrupt my tragedy for a moment, i just got my friend started in on massive
indigo appreciation last summer at a lilith, and we were in the car this winter
listening to blood and fire and she stopped and said to me that this was the
most profound and accurate lines she'd ever heard because it was like all those
clothes you have in your closet that just sit there being forsaken.  so of
course when i got done looking at her funny i asked her what she thought the
line was and she told me: "i feel forsaken like the things i never wear".  hee.

alright.  anyone want to share how this song makes them feel like maybe they
just might not be the single most unhappy person in the world?  i know it gets
better, but then again, after it got better for *this* songwriter don't give
that girl a gun came out, and shed your skin and cut it out.  so is there anyone
out there who's not currently in a relationship who really thinks that there's a
point to loving someone when this seems to be the inevitable end?  i'm soooo
bitter (and it's hasn't even been a full day yet!)...

marivel

"cutting my heart, burning my soul.
nothing left to hold,
nothing left but blood and fire..."

                      --a. ray

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 13:48:46 -0800
reply-to:     "kim: goddess in her own reality" <rcn@prcn.org>
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they aren't??? good goddess then... however did they get passes as delegates
to our last convention?????
yours divinely, kim ( spart time goddess/full time mom )
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some things i hold too tightly, some things i'll, some things i'll never touch
i'm wearing down the stones in my river, all my life i've painted with anger's
brush... amy ray
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i met the girl who held one of these in austin. it was really funny watching
her get excited about holding it up. we sat down at the bottom (my g/f and i
were the 1st ppl in line, she was next) and we listened to the mix 94.7
interview and she made her sign in the back of her vehicle, right next to the
entrance. it was alot of fun. we sat there and drank beer and got to know each
other. they were very nice. not from austin, but cool anyway :)

michelle

in a message dated 98-01-21 16:31:56 est, beanz17@aol.com writes:

>
>  " i was emily's wife in my former lifetime !  "     ... and on the back is
>  said....
>
>  "  really i was !  "

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oh marivel....
i soooo feel your pain. and it's weird, because i spent the entire past
weekend blasting this song over and over and over....
shouting "i am intense i am in need i am in pain i am in love" over and
over until my friends were really worried...
it made me feel sooo great though.... i mean, i felt so much better
knowing that someone else, at least one person (one person whom i really
respect) understood how i felt... the whole verse about someone who can
give what i need and all that... still have the will to live... i mean, i
am intense and i know that... the words really helped me and i feel
absolutely amazing now...
the indigo girls are so good for easing pain... they really can make you
feel a little less alone in the world.  it will get better....
:)shayna

on wed, 21 jan 1998, marivel danielson wrote:

> hey all.
>
> i hope everyone out there is doing at least a little better than i am (that's
> not saying much unfortunately).  but rather than just dump my personal sh** out
> here with no mention of ig at all (a blatant disregard for sherlyn's desperate
> pleas), i thought i would turn this whole thing into another song interpretation
> thread.  maybe this is an obvious one, but since this song has become my life
> during the past 24 hours, i'm gonna do it and see how it goes over.
>
> so anyway, blood and fire...means to me...knowing that you should let go but not
> really wanting to.  and there's nothing left to hang onto, but still you can't
> let go.  wanting something that isn't good for you. and not even caring that it
> might destroy you.
>
> a few lines:
>
> "leaning over edges, only two flights up"
>
> that's odd cause *i* live on the stupid second floor of my house.  parallel
> existances i guess...
>
> "i feel forsaken like the things i gave away"
>
> to interrupt my tragedy for a moment, i just got my friend started in on massive
> indigo appreciation last summer at a lilith, and we were in the car this winter
> listening to blood and fire and she stopped and said to me that this was the
> most profound and accurate lines she'd ever heard because it was like all those
> clothes you have in your closet that just sit there being forsaken.  so of
> course when i got done looking at her funny i asked her what she thought the
> line was and she told me: "i feel forsaken like the things i never wear".  hee.
>
> alright.  anyone want to share how this song makes them feel like maybe they
> just might not be the single most unhappy person in the world?  i know it gets
> better, but then again, after it got better for *this* songwriter don't give
> that girl a gun came out, and shed your skin and cut it out.  so is there anyone
> out there who's not currently in a relationship who really thinks that there's a
> point to loving someone when this seems to be the inevitable end?  i'm soooo
> bitter (and it's hasn't even been a full day yet!)...
>
> marivel
>
> "cutting my heart, burning my soul.
>  nothing left to hold,
>  nothing left but blood and fire..."
>
>                       --a. ray
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hey y'all,

i was recently listening to a radio interview (probably world cafe, 5/16/97)
and amy said that one line in hey kind friend was written for sara lee.  any
guesses?  or did i just completely mis-hear what she said?  with 2 kids
screamin' in the backseat of the van, i miss a lot :-0 !

pam

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hello list,

        today's headline story in my university newspaper is about a fellow
student, markus a. iturriaga woelfel, who won the 1997 portz scholars award
for his senior honors project concerning the use of technology in
revolutionary movements.  the project is titled "the war of ink and the
internet:  the zapatista rebels in mexico and the electronic revolution."
the award is only given to three honors students on the continent according
to the newspaper.  i would like to direct those with interest in the subject
to the web address for the project:

http://www.cs.utk.edu/~mituria/project/

and for the newspaper article:

http://beacon-www.asa.utk.edu/issues/v77/n5/

        perhaps the indigo girls would be interested in the site if someone
close could direct this information their way.

thanks,
cathy

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subject:      re: they aren't goddesses
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i understand there are celebrities that are, with good reason,afraid of
fans. i mean talking to ani is impossible now, three years ago she'd
apoligize that she was backstage so long and she couldn't do coffee since
she had to break her equipment down for the next gig. phish has a pretty
open policy with a bunch of fans - bruce hornsby and susanne vega give
people on their mailing lists passes after shows.
and sometimes even the most stalker-like things win respect. okay, yes the
thing i am about to explain i actually did. twice! to the same person. (we
are actually good friends now)
there was this author who i based my honors thesis on his book. i well, for
lack of a better word, worshiped his writing style and read a great deal up
on him. i found his email address (it was public knowledge) and wrote him -
a week later he wrote back saying he was going to be in nh on a certain day,
but did not know where.
now this day was a week before my thesis was due - i was willing to go
anywhere east coast to meet him (he lives in ny). this is where stalker/
information researcher freak kicks in.  his phone number was (prolly still
is) listed in the phone book. now i didn't call - i would not have been able
to speak - and to those who have met me - i know you must think that's
impossible 8^) but i talked to one of his agents and he was doing an off
broadway show (i sorta knew he was - just not right then) so i took
greyhound once i secured a ticket and, not knowing nyc well, decided it'd be
best to bus back like at midnight that night to maine.
the show was amazing, picture a 75 seat theater. i arrived, after a bus ride
right out of "speed" (two hours late - real fun) like a few minutes late and
a reserved front row seat was mine. i was trying not to hyperventilate when
this guy came right by me. i also, to this day think tom hanks was sitting a
few rows from me...whatever.
afterwards - i guess his agent actually called and warned him about me - he
was unfazed - remembering my email. someone asked where i was staying and i
was like "i'm not". the author freaked, but in a good way. he could not
conceive why i drove that far to see a show - it is analogous to seeing the
ig show of your dreams and a+e apoligize you travewled so long.
i get home and a few days later receive an email:

"i just went to court to get a restraining order"

(that was a joke)

the real first line was:
"you are far too awesome for words"


really...
so not all celebs hate their fans, in fact, after meeting me - the celeb was
totally cool - i ended up calling him for info on his speech in nh - he was
awesome, and we have met all over the place (he almost got me beloved rosie
tixs for the show with ig) and he even spoke at my school (i organized it,
of course)...

there are a lot of celebs like that. today i was talking to press about a
artist frequently mentioned on this list who is in maine this week and i was
amazed that, first i got an interview, but it had to be before the show as
she makes a point to meet fans after the show.  i would wager some celebs
hate reporters much more than fans.  even when i was covering ig, their
press people were psyched i knew so much - i knew when it came to the
interview i wasn't going to ask the same questions. amy and emily were
actually happy to talk with a fan/reporter... while stalking may be on the
rise as a result of the 'net (not even this list withstanding) there are
great people meeting each other as a result too!

my rant is over..there really is no need to flame me.
mike r.

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 15:56:58 -0800
reply-to:     "lynn cardamone (lca)" <lynncar@microsoft.com>
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from:         "lynn cardamone (lca)" <lynncar@microsoft.com>
subject:      reminder:  "shindigo"  seattle (pnw) list meet - 1/23

please come join us on friday 1/23!!!!!
we are looking forward to all of guests from out of state & a great ig
concert!!!
this is going to be the biggest seattle/pnw list meet to date!!!!
take care friends!!!
lynn  8-)

> ----------
> from:         lynn cardamone (lca)
> reply to:     lynn cardamone (lca)
> sent:         thursday, january 15, 1998 3:03 pm
> to:   indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject:      "shindigo"  seattle (pnw) list meet - 1/23
>
> ***let me start out by apologizing for having to include the entire ig
> list
> but i have no way contact some listers who rsvpd to our "shindigo" and
> live
> outside of the pacific northwest area and who are not on our pnw sub
> list***
> sorry friends...
> ______________________________________________________
> now for the message....
>
> wow!!!  i cannot tell you how many email responses i got on the seattle
> list
> meet!!!  we have listers coming from all over the pacific northwest as
> well
> as many listers & their guests from other states!!!  this is going to make
> the baigl's party look like a "boston tea party" - get it????!!!  8-)
>
> here are the final arrangements for our  "seattle & pacific northwest
> lister's - huge - gargantuan - enormous - way better than the "baigls"
> ever
> had or could have, list meet"
>
> the majority (almost 99%) of the listers that responded wanted to have our
> list meet on friday (1/23) -  before the 1/23 concert.
>
> i made reservations at the torero's mexican restaurant in the broadway
> market on seattle's capitol hill area (about 2 miles from the venue).
> basically we will be taking up the whole restaurant!!
>
> the vital info you need to know to join in on the fun is...
>
> date:           friday, january 23, 1998
>
> time:           5:00 pm  - until the concert starts!!!
>                 (come earlier if you like - great neighborhood & shops to
> look at)
>
> location:       torero's mexican restaurant  - 401 broadway ave. e.
>                 note  -torero's in inside the broadway market - on the
> second floor
>                 (parking -  in the underground lot of the broadway market
> or
> the street)
>
> phone:          if you get lost - torero's phone number is 206-860-1363
>
>                 if you need more info or detailed directions - call me
> (lynn) at any of the numbers below...
>                 425-703-2361 - work
>                 206-323-38668 - home
>                 800-503-9213 - pager
>
> directions:
>
> from interstate 5 heading north bound
>
> exit at e. olive way
> head east on olive wa for 0.5 miles
> continue on olive way heading northeast for another 0.2 miles
> olive turns into e. denny way  - then you will come to broadway ave. e.
> turn left onto broadway ave. e. & go another 0.2 miles
> the broadway market will be on your left - (the address is 401 broadway
> ave.
> e.)
>
> from interstate 5 heading south bound
> exit denny way
> stay in the left lane and go through traffic light at end of the off ramp
> (the road will curve slightly to the right)
> the next traffic light is denny
> turn left onto e. denny way go 0.4 miles -  (it gets just a little tricky
> but keep following denny until you get to broadway) you will come to
> broadway ave. e.
> turn left onto broadway ave. e. & go another 0.2 miles
> the broadway market will be on your left - (the address is 401 broadway
> ave.
> e.)
>
> from the eastside of seattle
> take sr 520 heading west to seattle
> exit on interstate 5 going south  bound
> then follow the directions above - "from interstate 5 heading south"
> note:  after you get on interstate 5 south bound, quickly make you way
> over
> the right lanes because the denny exit comes up fairly fast.
>
> see you at the seattle shindigo!!!!  (baigls  - we love you - just having
> some fun!)
> we are really excited to have you all join us!!!
> thanks for all your great email responses!!!
> lynn   8-)
>
> > **  "shindigo" copyright1998  - by shelly b. in seattle  :-)  **
> >
> > ----------
> > from:         lynn cardamone (lca)
> > sent:         friday, january 09, 1998 3:37 pm
> > to:   'indigo-girls@netspace.org'
> > subject:      seattle & pnw listers unite  "1/23  shindigo" (igc)
> >
> > news flash!!!
> >
> > the seattle & pacific northwest listers are planning a big - huge -
> > gargantuan - enormous - way better than the "baigls"  ever had or could
> > have, list meet before the 1/23 ig seattle concert.
> > you are all welcome to join in on this gala event of titanic
> > proportions!!!!
> >
> > attendees also include listers coming from portland, eugene, vancouver,
> > montana, chicago, california and many other places!!!!
> > we  reserved a whole restaurant to have a fun-filled ig lister party &
> get
> > everyone psyched before the concert.
> > rsvp by monday - 1/12 by emailing me privately.  8-)
> >
> > baigls???
> > come & see how we do ig parties on this side of the rockies!!!  ;-)
> just
> > having fun with you all....  ;-)
> >
> > it's going to be an official seattle  "shindigo"
> >
> > take care friends!
> > lynn in seattle
> >
> > **  "shindigo" copyright1998  - by shelly b. in seattle  :-)  **
> >
> >
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date:         thu, 22 jan 1998 10:59:11 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

i just called the promoter's office for the australian ig
tour (thanks for the number pen).  apparently the opener
for all shows except for perth and adelaide will be someone
called simone hardy.  i don't know anything about this woman
and can't find anything on the web, so that's all i know!

the opener for perth and adelaide hasn't been decided yet.

gettin' closer... :)
sherlyn
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at 03:59 pm 1/21/98 est, mnoelm wrote:
>hey y'all,
>
>i was recently listening to a radio interview (probably world cafe, 5/16/97)
>and amy said that one line in hey kind friend was written for sara lee.

the line is "at 3am, it's good company"

~rob
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i'm here cuz i wanna comment on my love for the indigo girls. :)
from the very beginning it was the music that drew me in - (quit
laughin', cuz i'm serious).  as the months went by and i grew more and
more accustomed to them (their personalities, activism etc...), i began
to realize that there was much more to them than just their music.
call me a slobbering fan, but the day i met amy ray was one o' the best
of my life - the amount of respect that i have for that woman is
immeasurable, and i'm not ashamed to tell the whole freakin' world.

-bethany :)
(who just got back from her "native american themes" class and is as
pumped as hell about her upcoming presentation. :)

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i'm a woman baby...i'm standin' strong...despite the "aacks" they should
still cover fleetwood mac. :)
"big love" is *still* ringing in my head.

-bethany :)
(who has a big-assed headache)

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date:         wed, 21 jan 1998 19:26:31 -0500
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subject:      center stage

in the interest of satisfying my curiousity and starting a new
conversation, does anybody have any thoughts on the song center stage.  i
haven't heard it mentioned much...and i think that it's kinda nifty.
anybody?

and a bit of nigc...could somebody who went to the df concert in b-more
on tuesday email me privately with the details or a review.  i'd like to
hear...

thanks,
carolyn

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hey all-

i was talking with my friend today, and she was saying how she was really
stressed out, and how she was just gonna go home and listen to ig.  then she
said but not swamp ophelia.  i asked why and she told me that it was too much
of a "fall" album.  then she went into this whole thing on how each album has
its respective season.  for instance, nis is spring cuz of emily's imagery in
southland in the springtime and hammer and a nail.  and sots is summery.  this
has never occured to me.  what do you all think?  do you think this season
association is valid?  and if so, which albums do you think go with which
season?
if this has already been discussed on the list, i'm sorry!!!

~liz

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ooohhhh baby - "the higher the leap, i said, the harder the ground!"
those words could keep me satisfied for the rest o' my life.
"center stage" is one of my favorites.  the images put forth in the tune
are unbelievable - and she sings it with so much soul....
my favorite part you ask?!  the little "mary had a little lamb"
instrumental interlude - unbeatable, dude (just call me a ninja turtle)!
anyhoo..that's my piece...no in depth, philosophical interpretation here
- just lovin' it for the pure beauty. :)

-bethany :)

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have ig ever covered "lonesome road" by james taylor?  if they haven't,
there is an awesome cover idea!

beth

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a few quick thoughts on this: i don't worship them but for me they are role
models, they are women who have obviously lived life to the fullest with
all the good and bad that incorporates and still, out of all that, they are
able to find the gold in life. their wisdom and experience is such that it
only makes them richer models of humanity, rather than anything higher. for
me it's aiming to be as whole as they are obviously aiming to be. if i
could get close i'd be content with my path.

"it's my thirst that brought me to the water"

helen

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in a message dated 98-01-21 09:04:49 est, bcorrice@wam.umd.edu writes:

<< science project. >>

would mixing blue and black colored water to form indigo be any good?  that's
about as scientific as i get.

good luck,

bonnie

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in a message dated 98-01-21 08:44:06 est, madonajk@alpha.delta.edu writes:

<< how abotu take a walk on the wild side  >>

whoa best cover suggestion yet - i could dig this!!
i said hey babe...
bon

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yeah i know it would rule big time

on wed, 21 jan 1998, bonnemot wrote:

> in a message dated 98-01-21 08:44:06 est, madonajk@alpha.delta.edu writes:
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> << how abotu take a walk on the wild side  >>
>
> whoa best cover suggestion yet - i could dig this!!
> i said hey babe...
> bon
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nic said:

< i hear that being the ceo of a major corporation pays pretty well>>

this is oh so true, little blue friends, but you must give up your soul and
definitely your family life to do it.  it's all a big trade off - so ask
yourselves just how important is money and all that hoo hah to you and go from
there.

bonnie (treading water in mid-level corporate america, butseeing plenty of the
kids)

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hey all you ig people,
i agree that sots is a summery album (maybe bc i listened to it all summer
or something. i think get out the map makes me think of summer bc of the
idea that summer is for traveling.  i think that strange fire is pretty
"fall" too.  it's not that whole albums are one season, more like certain
songs seem to pertain to certain seasons.  like ghost seems pretty
"winter", and airplane seems more spring or summer...
                       chelsea
p.s.  can someone on the ani list tell me how to sign on again? i'm having
trouble...

at 07:14 pm 1/21/1998 est, you wrote:
>hey all-
>
>i was talking with my friend today, and she was saying how she was really
>stressed out, and how she was just gonna go home and listen to ig.  then she
>said but not swamp ophelia.  i asked why and she told me that it was too much
>of a "fall" album.  then she went into this whole thing on how each album has
>its respective season.  for instance, nis is spring cuz of emily's imagery in
>southland in the springtime and hammer and a nail.  and sots is summery.
this
>has never occured to me.  what do you all think?  do you think this season
>association is valid?  and if so, which albums do you think go with which
>season?
>if this has already been discussed on the list, i'm sorry!!!
>
>~liz
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hey,
       i don't like the whole "goddess" thing either.  no person should be
called a goddess.  the indigo girls are human beings..  ani difranco is
also often called a goddess.  even though i love ani and amy and emily's
music-i don't think they're goddesses.  they are just extremely talented
and gifted singer/songwriters.
                              chelsea

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i just love when emily sings "...eating bread and hunaaaaaay"
toye

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in american literature after 1865, i have to do a creative project.  i know lots of ig songs relate to literary works and poetry.  i am looking for any ig related songs or cool songs by other artists that relate to american literature after 1865.

also, someone on this list posted once that emily dickenson was gay.  does anyone know where that information came from and how i could find out more?

does anyone know if walt whitman was gay or bisexual?

i'm not randomly asking these weird questions.  they are all tied in to my project...
too bad virginia woolf was british!

please respond privately if you can help me out...

thanx and sorry for the nigc,
toye

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--- chelsea wrote:
hey,
       i don't like the whole "goddess" thing either.  no person should be
called a goddess.
--- end of quoted material ---

except for me, right chelsea? ;) ha!

personally, i think it's totally fine to call amy and emily and ani and lynn
breedlove and carolyn chow goddesses. because i'm a religious gal, don't get me
wrong...but some goddess traditions are very inclusive and  include
past-living  mortal women .....and i just don't wanna wait for  these gals to
pass on to the great bee-yond  before i think of them as ethereal and
spiritually enriching. to me, that's what goddess means. so you too can be a
goddess! :)

sus

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i generally dont' use the term, but i think you are taking it a bit to
far.  it's not like people actually have deified them, for real.  they
may "worship" them, but not at some sacred level.  goddess is used as
more of a playful term.  just a way to say "you're great!!"  i've been
called a "cymbal diva" as my friend called herself the goddess of the
mellophone cult.  its not like we took it that seriously.  it's just a
title for showing importance.

love,
  carol

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yeah, in ghost think of the line "...you come regular like seasons..."
also, what about mystery "i could go crazy on a night like tonight when summer's beginning to give up her fight."  doesn't that make you think of those eveinings in late summer sitting out on your deck and watching how the days get shorter and evening comes faster?  what about other references to seasons in ig songs?  thoughts...?

toye

  like ghost seems pretty
> "winter",

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well, it only has tangential igc, but i wanted to chime in on how i'm doing
my trip.

first, realize i'm on disability. a steady, if piddling, income. lots of
freetime, when i'm not sick. second, i have no credit cards. when i defaulted
on my student loans as i got sicker and sicker, all that went, too. (and i
think credit cards are icky, anyway...) and third, i live in the bay area,
and have a travel advantage.

how am i doing this travel? luck, prayer, and the 'net.

i really, really, really wanted to do this. a lot. i wrote about it, did
visualizations about it, and really, really, really thought very good
thoughts about doing some following the girls on tour. candles, incense,
offerings.... i kid you not. lots of dancing around, saying out loud, "i
realllllly wanna." lots of whining to the universe. and a lot of willingness
to do whatever presented itself as a way to make this happen.

i knew lots of deadheads who did tours, for weeks and weeks. my sweetie did,
hitchhiking and selling stuff in the parking lot. (the girls ever get a
parking lot scene, i'm set... i'll be the ones selling cookies... blue i and
g, and one that looks like amy's tat... the cookie cutter appeared at a flea
market about three weeks ago, for two buks...)

so, i knew it was possible to do.

i got a week long gig doing some horrible data entry stuff, that paid for my
tickets. (all done with my debit card, for about 225 dollars.) an out of the
blue, fabulous opportunity, while i was applying for anything that looked
feasible for a short term gig.

i lucked out, and had a free flight to seattle, from when i had gotten bumped
on a plane flight home from a family gathering. something good had to come
outta that trip...

and i wrote email. i hooked up with someone on the list for a ride, and she
bought tickets, for portland. (wooohooo!) i'll pay for the ticket, split gas,
and buy the coffee. i found us a place to stay, through another mailing list.
we'll make breakfast, and i'll get a ride to the airport.

from sf, another buddy and i are driving. her car, since its bigger, but i
might have taken mine. we have to do a total of two nights in hotels, unless
i get possessed and decide to try to do las vegas, too.

we're taking food, and crashing with friends along the way.

total expense? maybe 400 dollars. a big amount, and i'm not going to act like
it isn't, that's a month's rent... but when i was drinking, i spent that much
on partying in three months.

how am i getting away from my responsibilities? a great partner and
household, who are taking care of the dog and the child and everything else.
with the understanding that i'll do a bunch of responsibility sharing, too,
further down the road.

so.... it is possible to do this sort of stuff in a non-credit, non-scary
sort of way. a lot of work, and its my way big deal for the year... but worth
it.

::::plink, plink::::

---rob

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        for carolyn and anyone else who is interested, sonia's show/cd
release is  this coming sunday, the 25th, at the 8 x 10 in baltimore,
not earlier this week. she is also doing a signing/preview show at
bibelot books on friday night, but i think i can't go, cause i'm
supposed to be  emceeing an open mic, and i think the times might
conflict.
        interesting personal note- i just found out that my boss- the
folk singer karen goldberg- is sonia's cousin! musical talent runs in
the family, i guess. karen may sing a song with sonia on sunday night
(she also sells sea shells by the seashore :)  but they're not sure...i
think it would be cool!

        sarah
        spinsker@goucher.edu

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again, the url for ig stamps is:

http://members.aol.com/melaniekrs/igstamp.html

just in case anyone missed it.  :)

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hey,
   cool some people who think like me... how about, get out the map- summer
i think.  somehow maps and travling make me think of summer of spring.
airplane seems pretty summery too. southland in the springtime?   what
about least complicated? i think fall because kids going to school makes me
think of the fall.  does anyone like dar williams? her songs definitly have
seasons too. that's maybe why they compare to the girls.  i still don't
fully see the ani comparasin but if anyone can explain it to me please do.
think "mortal city" obviously winter, "christians and pagans"-well thats
fall bc they're talking about thanksgiving... "febuary" is obviously
winter.  "iowa" seems summery.  i remember when i saw her she even
described her songs with seasons like this is another summer song and a
winter song. i'm having a blank on all the other songs... hmm... maybe i
should sigh up to the dar list!  anyone know how?
                                                 chelsea


at 09:28 pm 1/21/1998 pst, you wrote:
>yeah, in ghost think of the line "...you come regular like seasons..."
>also, what about mystery "i could go crazy on a night like tonight when
summer's beginning to give up her fight."  doesn't that make you think of
those eveinings in late summer sitting out on your deck and watching how
the days get shorter and evening comes faster?  what about other references
to seasons in ig songs?  thoughts...?
>
>toye
>
>  like ghost seems pretty
>> "winter",
>
>

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i am going to totally agree with the first post on this subject.  thank you
for your honesty and "flameage bravery".

~miz*

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i know this is last minute, trust me, but my friend just cancelled on me for
thursday night so i have one ticket for sale.

main floor, section 3, row o, seat 12.  thursday january 22

email me immediatly if you're interested.  i'm charging $31.50 which is what i
paid including the tm charges.

thanks!    -anne
p.s. if they're aren't any takers i'll try to sell it at the venue.  does
anyone know if there's ever any problem with this?

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the people at musicdrome asked me to post this message when they heard about
what was on the list and posted in the newsgroup.

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at 08:50 pm 1/21/98 -0500, chelsea wrote:
>       i don't like the whole "goddess" thing either.  no person should be
>called a goddess.
that's no person in *this* reality, right???
a very concerned wanna-be-goddess ( who shall remain nameless )
ps... i *loved* my pal tracey's take on the whole goddess thing. she's as
cute as she is bright.

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hi y'all!  i just wanted to put my input into tis season question.  to me,
swamp-o has always been a christmastime albume.  the reason for this is
that i am probably one of the only people on earth who despises christmas
music.  now, i am not much of a radio listener to begin with, but around
christmastime, i never listen to the radio.  so one christmas, all i
listened to was swamp-o.  eversince then, around christmastime, swamp-o is
the only cd that will get me into the holiday spirit.  it is werid b/c one
of my friends thinks it's an end of the summer (not to steal dar's idea or
anything!) type of album.  but for me, i loooooove listening to it between
thanksgiving and new years.  gets me into the mood so i won't be a bah
humbug!  ;-)

:-) karen

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in a message dated 98-01-21 21:26:14 est, susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu writes:

<< ethereal and
spiritually enriching. to me, that's what goddess means. so you too can be a
goddess! :) >>

absolutely.  that's why i'm proposing myself as a candidate for goddesshood,
you can all send your votes on my induction to the hall of the goddesses (in
the form of money orders <no checks please> made out to me, in any amount you
choose over $50.

smile, people!

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
   -   novitiate of suzanneglassism
     - president, grlchasr26 fan club
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can you show me now that i will not be killed in vain,
show me just a little of your omnipresent brain!
show me there's a reason for your wanting me to die,
you're far too keen on where and when and not so hot on why!
-amy as jesus, "the garden of gethsemane"
from jesus christ super-star: a resurrection
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there is a wonderful live recording of center stage on the thrive cd!  :)
just thought i'd remind y'all of that!

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not that this really makes a differance....
correct me if i'm wrong, but i think some neo-pagan kinds of religions (the
pantheistic or animistic sort, i think) regualarly refer to humans as gods or
goddesses.  if the divine spirit (or whichever entity you wish to name) runs
through all of nature and humans are part of nature, then it wouldn't be that
big a strech to say that everyone is a god or goddess in some aspect.
i'm not saying that everyone who refered to amy and emily as goddesses was a
neo-pagan, but it's not necesarily blasphemous to say that (which is what i'm
infering from some of the posts) depending on your personal beliefs.

west of bishes
shana

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