lifeblood: listlogs: 1998-01e


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date:         wed, 28 jan 1998 23:11:37 -0600
reply-to:     mandi96@airmail.net
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subject:      amy's b'day gift
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hey y'all!

this is just a quick note to those who have written to me about amy's
gift- i'm not ignoring anyone, just really busy, i'll write to you very
soon (as soon as i can actually put some thought into what i'm sending
out over wires).  i've seen some really good ideas on the list (from
what i've skimmed) and would really like to see this thing get rolling.
so, if you've written to me lately about the b-day deal, expect a reply
by sunday.

thanks!!!!

peace,
mandi

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date:         wed, 28 jan 1998 21:09:45 -0800
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this is probably old news to you grizzled list veterans out there but
seattle's mountain radio station web site (http://www.kmtt.com) has four
real audio interviews with ig, including a couple of acoustic songs (soy
& gotm) on their web site. recorded before the pier concerts in the
summer but kind of neat if you need a fix. i just found them myself so
apologies if they have been noted previously.

helen

i still like the chiapas birthday idea.

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 00:41:12 -0500
reply-to:     cathy <catherineann@mindspring.com>
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subject:      south park/ig connection!
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i read on the ig newsgroup tonight that there will be a
south park episode in which the fab four decide to become
lesbians. rumor has it that the girls' music plays a pivotal
role in helping them accomplish this!
anyone got any details?

cathy, thinking this episode could top "starvin' marvin" for least
politically correct!

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 00:43:45 est
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hmm...that's interesting...at last night's warfield show, there was a man
holding dead flowers, too.  but from what i could tell, his had been dead for
quite a while (all dried and brown)...any connection, ya think?

peace,
shelley (who had to go out and buy a violent femmes cd just to satiate her
need to hear blister in the sun, in any form, again)

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 00:52:31 est
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hello all!!
        i am interested in getting the curve mag with the girls' article.  does
anyone have one for sale?  or, if anyone lives in portland....there was a post
that there was a stack in powell's bookstore.  anyone who can help me out,
please e-mail me privately!!
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i am lost...anyone able to help find me?
the problem is that i don't know where i am going!!
anyone able to help, i sure could use it.
if i only knew what was going on it that crazy
brain of mine...................me
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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 01:54:51 -0500
reply-to:     joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
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subject:      thoughts on amy's b-day gift
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while there are so many worthy ig-endorsed causes that need our funds,
i believe the plight of the people in chiapas is the most timely,
given the recent massacre and all of the strife that has followed.
i think it would be a wonderful way to show our support.  but, should
the donations (if indeed this is the cause we choose) go directly to
someone in chiapas or to the national commission on democracy in
mexico?  i have no clue about this.  and is the ncdm primarily concerned
with or connected to the happenings in chiapas, or are they concerned
with the fight for democracy, etc. in general for indians throughout
mexico?  just wondering out loud.  i would imagine the massacre in
december just about broke a&e's hearts, since they visited chiapas last
year and have gotten so involved in the zapatista's plight.  so,
that's my vote.  i doubt a&e will be playing a show on easter sunday.
so, the gift probably won't be presented on amy's birthday anyway.
i just wonder if maybe it could be presented at another show (unless,
of course, the consensus is to donate it to slam), maybe a few days
before her b-day. just my $0.02...

peace,

joan :-d

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date:         wed, 28 jan 1998 23:00:45 -0800
reply-to:     dave lieben <dlieben@rcip.com>
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subject:      sacramento, jan. 28
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just got back from the show.  'twas great!  the setlist:
welcome me
least complicated
reunion
virginia woolf
shame on you
you and me of the 10,000 wars
cut it out/wish you were here
hammer and a nail
shed your skin
get out the map
jonas & ezekial
winthrop
i don't wanna know (with tantrums)
chickenman
galileo
encore:
romeo & juliet
closer to fine (with danielle howe & tantrums)
blister in the sun (with danielle howe & tantrums)

fashion report:
from where we were sitting it appeared they were both fully dressed!

a great show, they seemed in good spirits and thanked the audience for
listening several times.  the only song that was rocky was i don't wanna know,
it seemed like the bass player had never even heard the song before.
there was a thread recently on how can people afford to go to concerts.  you
can be like me and stand in front and beg.  this is only feasible if you have
no self-respect whatsoever!  i walked to the auditorium and sat in front
with a sign that said "poor ig fan hoping for extra ticket.  please?".  a
nice guy
gave me his extra ticket, then someone else was nice enough to give me
another one so my wife could go too.  she was so excited when i called her
up and
said "i got two!".  we sat together in the unsold balcony seats and danced all
we wanted since nobody was behind us.  life is good!
dave

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 03:38:41 est
reply-to:     carol & sarah <chickenwomyn@hotmail.com>
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well, they say there is a new month of episodes...but i looked at this
upcoming month @ comedy central.  so its not in  febreuary.  sounds cool
though. maybe march....
carol

>i read on the ig newsgroup tonight that there will be a
>south park episode in which the fab four decide to become
>lesbians. rumor has it that the girls' music plays a pivotal
>role in helping them accomplish this!
>anyone got any details?
>
>cathy, thinking this episode could top "starvin' marvin" for least
>politically correct!
>
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williams
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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 05:47:07 est
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hello ig people!!!!
    we're going to the san diego concert and were wondering if any of you have
some hints about getting there really early to catch the buses roll in and
maybe catch some soundchecks.  never have done this before so would like to
get some advice.  e-mail privately so as not to bore the others.  thanks a
bunch!!
svenskalca@aol.com
laura

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 06:50:38 pst
reply-to:     nicola nelson <nicnelson@hotmail.com>
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hi all...
i have a very close friend who goes to chiapas several times a year
and has ties to a number of artists there.  if the group decides to
target chiapas for the birthday gift i'm pretty sure i can hook us up
with some grassroots-type organizations devoted to humanitarian efforts
in the region.
peace-nic

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 09:54:43 -0500
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did anyone ever hear if emily got her birthday presents last year? i know
amy's was presented to her in person, but dave ellison took emily's and
said he would give them to her, and that's the last i ever heard about
it. did anyone heard from the billings house acknowledging the gift?

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 09:03:53 -0600
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subject:      re: did emily get her gifts?
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at 09:54 am 1/29/98 -0500, nancy humphries wrote:
>did anyone ever hear if emily got her birthday presents last year? i know
>amy's was presented to her in person, but dave ellison took emily's and
>said he would give them to her, and that's the last i ever heard about
>it. did anyone heard from the billings house acknowledging the gift?

all the donations went directly to billings house (i sent them off myself)
and they were very grateful for the gift given in emily's name. emily was
merely given a certificate/card that stated the amount donated, etc. mandi
and audrey also included some other items but i don't recall what those
were right now. an in-person meet wasn't doable at red rocks, so we have to
trust that mr dave gave the "gift" to her.

deb

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 10:38:44 -0500
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hello!  thanks everyone for the info on the concerts out west.  is there
anybody that would be willing to share a copy of a concert were the girls
did blister in the sun?  i don't have much to trade, but we can talk.  email
me privetly if you could be that kind friend and share!  thanks.

paula

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 07:40:53 -0800
reply-to:     jeanette lynn <reposa@scf-fs.usc.edu>
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im definitely interested in boots for all of the nights ig played in san
fran, and would be willing to help out with a tape tree...could someone
let me know...thanks!!!
                     have an indigo day!
                                jeanette

                so what is love then, is it dictated or chosen
                does it sing like the hyms of 1000 years or is
                it just pop emotion 'and if it was ever here and
                it left does it mean it never was true?
                                 emily sailers
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date:         wed, 29 jan 2098 08:49:04 -0700
reply-to:     jim gates <fugitive@primenet.com>
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sorry if this was allredy posted.  this was in todays issue of "the rep" a
weekly entertainment guide from the arizona republic and is reprinted
without permission (of course).  enjoy !

soul sisters
indigo girls' complementary personalities create musical magic

by randy cordova
the arizona repulic

    first impressions can be a little misleading.  amy ray of the indigo
girrls recently found that out firsthand.
    last year, she and fellow girl emily saliers played some dates on the
lilith fair, sarah mclchlan's hugely successful celebration of women in
music.
    for instance, take jewel, a comely pop princess with a huge following
among the shopping-mall set.  ray's impression of her was compleatly based
on her radio-friendly singles.
    "i had no concept of how talented she was," ray says.  "how open and
spontaneous she is.  she's a very magical person.  people in this business
nail you because you're beautiful, or because you're not beautiful enough."
    "with someone like jewel, i had this image of her because i'm this
recepticle for the mass media.  now that i know her, i can't say enough good
things about her."
    ray knows how the media often boil reality down to the tiniest possible
portion, making it easy for the public to digest.  for a lot of people, the
indigo girls are a couple of guitar-strumming lesbians playing folk songs,
nothing more.
    throw in the obvious differences between the two that the media loves to
play up.  ray is dark, saliers is light.  ray's songs have a punkish edge,
saliers' tunes are ethereal and hopeful.  even the vocal stylings of the two
contrast, with ray roviding the sandpaper to saliers' silk.
    "well, it's kind of accurate in some ways, but it's so much more complex
than that," ray says.  "i'm not always dark and emily's not always light.
it's a relationship of balance.  it's complementary."
    the connection between the two georgians may be hard to get a grasp on.
it's not a typical duo setting.  there are 12 songs on the pair's current
disc, shaming of the sun.  six were written by sliers, six by ray.  no
collaboration between the two.  it's almost like an album divided between
two solo performers.
    "the way we work is if it's your song, you have compleate veto power
when we record it," ray says.  you call all the shots."
    the working relationship has evolved to the current understanding over
time.  the two were grade school pals who moved from coffeehouses to concert
halls through the years.  their first recording came out in 1985.  they
landed with epic records in 1988, which led to the successful single closer
to fine and big, mainstream success.
    through it all, the friendship has survived.
    "we've never been girlfriends," ray says.  "that's probably one of the
things that has helped us.  we're just friends.  we write separately.  we
each have our own space.
    "it's kind of like how it is with a sibling in your life.  you know how
it is with siblings where you have a few years when you talk a lot and are
really close, and then there are other periods where you don't see each
other that often.  that's what it's like.
    the two work well together in the studio, ray says, because of the
complementary natures of their personalities.
    "she's a lot easier to work with," ray admits.  "i used to have a bad
temper.  i'm outspoken.  i'm kind of dogmatic sometimes, maye even
overprincipled to a fault.  emily kind of helps me see the greater picture.
i'll just be beating the  dead horse, and she will say, 'it's good enough.'
"
    theres no sin in being a perfectionist, especially when the end result
has the deversity of shaming of the sun.  it was the duo's first time
serving as their own producers, and they have created an adventurous
collection of tunes.
    commercially, ray's summery shame on you even emerged as a hit single.
other tunes ventured into more danceable territory.  guitarist tom morello
of rage against the machine, hardly your typical folkie, has been called in
to handle some remixes for the pair.
    with the success of shaming, the duo's profile has risen to new heights.
but ray still is aware of the way the media box them in.
    "i don't think we're really taken seriously on a musical level," she
says.  "it''s always about how many gay people are in our audience, or our
relationship.  it''s like everthing but the music. ...i mean, we've had some
weak points in our career, but we've been honest in our growth and really
worked on things.  i'm proud of where we're at musically.  all you can
really do is put your head down and move forward."

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 09:15:43 -0600
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subject:      re: sacramento, jan. 28
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at 11:00 pm 1/28/98 -0800, dave lieben wrote:

>encore:
>romeo & juliet
>closer to fine (with danielle howe & tantrums)
>blister in the sun (with danielle howe & tantrums)

did they really do blister in the sun _after_ ctf???? just wondering.

deb

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 08:22:32 -0800
reply-to:     jill frankel <jefrankel@ucdavis.edu>
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i sent this last night and it seemed to not work, so i'm trying
again...please forgive me if you've gotten it twice!

> hey out there...i just got back from the sacramento show and it was
> pretty incredible!
>
> here's the setlist:
>
> welcome me
> least complicated
> reunion
> virginia woolf
> shame on you
> you & me of the ten thousand wars (somebody requested it and they
> played it!)
> cut it out --> wish you were here (with emily playing electric slide
> guitar...)
> hammer and a nail
> shed your skin (a very cool acoustic version)
> get out the map (w/emily on banjo and amy on mandolin)
> jonas & ezekial
> winthrop (didn't she just like teach herself how to play piano?  i am
> *such* a slacker...)
> i don't wanna know (with the tantrums)
> chickenman with the harmonica player dave something who was excellent
> galileo
>
> encore
> romeo & juliet
> closer to fine (w/danielle howle and the tantrums)
> blister in the sun (w/them, too)
>
> what an encore...when i read last night's review i really wanted to
> see blister.  the energy was great...the place seated 3500 people and
> they had a bunch of candles on the stage.  and it was just them and
> their guitars.
>
> i haven't seen them since august, 1994, and it's amazing to see how
> much better they've gotten in 3 1/2 years.  they free-associate so
> much more now and it makes for a nice change when you've heard the
> songs the same way *so* many times...
>
> anyway, to those of you who were there tonight i want to hear your
> thoughts...and to those of you who still have it yet to come, you're
> lucky!
>
> jill
> mailto:jefrankel@ucdavis.edu
>

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 09:31:35 +0000
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these are excellent questions.  amy and emily outwardly support
ncdm, which is very rooted in chiapas.  please  check out their
web site (this is for everyone!)

http://www.igc.org/ncdm/

to research this organization before casting your votes next week.
i believe we should go thru this org, if chiapas wins, since we know
amy supports it and is involved with it.  i do plan to try to talk with
her at some point this spring to get her input on it, but if i don't manage
to, and if one of you does get a couple minutes of her time, please
ask her if she has any direct contacts.  i have queried the org many
times and have received bits of info, but they are extremely busy
and, like any good volunteer organization, have more needs than
they can fill.  so i am being patient, but if anyone can get a or e
to give them a name and phone number, i'd be eternally grateful.
this stands even if chiapas doesn't win out as project amy.

we'll decide where and when to give her acknowledgement of her
gift after we vote and when we know more about their schedule
this spring.

let's have some more ideas!  slam is a great one, although i have
a question for the fabulous tigger:  does this organization support
women's causes just in the us or is it international in nature?

thanks for everyone's support.  we'll vote next week sometime,
stay tuned, and i'm counting on a 100% showing!  we need everyone's
input, especially if we decide to tell her it's from this list.  this means
inside and outside the us!

peace, charity, and digital sound!
elizabeth from denver

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sorry, i forgot to address the question of whether the chiapas
cause will still be timely in april --

ndcm is trying to set up distribution lines for indiginous
crafts and products, among other things.  this is on hold
right now due to the crises which have displaced more than
8,000 people.  so they are focusing more on getting aid
to these people now, but will resume their original goals of
helping the indiginous population create a better living
for themselves when the violence stops and they can return
home.  so yes, in my opinion this cause is definitely ongoing,
and ndcm seem to be doing a great job of staying flexible and
helping where they are needed most.  but the basis of the org
is long-term sustainability.

any more questions?

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2 things struck me when i was reading the article : first, i think
writer about the balance between amy and emily - it is very subtle,
with the two balancing out each other in their singing and when they
are on stage.

another thing - has anyone heard anything more about these remixes -
it'd be interesting to hear some of them (maybe a remix album?)

john.


peppermint patty : "happiness is a warm puppy, a b plus..."

marcie : "and kind friends"

(charlie brown and snoopy show)

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could whoever it was please email me  the south park response...

i accidently deleted it.

thanks!
carey m.

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please excuse this if it has already been posted.  i'm on the digest...

1) welcome me
2) least complicated  - they had to encourage the audience to sing.  for a
split
    second when a & e were quiet for the audience sing-along it looked like it
    wasn't going to happen
3) reunion
4) virginia woolfe
5) shame on you
6) you & me of the 10,000 wars - emily said this was an audience request and
     that they hadn't practiced it.  near the beginning she messed up, mumbled
     something and kept on singing.
7) cut it out (wish you were here)
8) hammer and a nail - with the every person on the street lyric change
    after the song, emily commented that everyone was in their seats so nice
and
    neat that it reminded her of a high school pageant.
9) shed your skin
10) get out the map
11) jonas & ezkiel
12) withrop
13) i don't wanna know - with the tantrums (minus danielle), this was the
first
      time during the night someone accompanied the girls.  it didn't happen
very
      often on this show.
14) chickenman - no one else but dave on harmonica on this song.
15) gallileo
       *****encore*****
16) romeo and juliet
17) closer to fine - with danielle howle and the tantrums.
18) blister in the sun - with d & t

it was a great, great show.  although just a little subdued.  they said it was
just the two of them on this tour just like back in their high school days.
my seats were in the balcony - pretty far back but it gave me a chance to
really get into the music.
emily wore overalls and i can't tell you the color of her top from where i
sat.
amy wore dark blue (?) pants and again don't know the color of her top.  i was
glad she didn't wear her blue stripped top with her multi-colored striped
pants like she did at the sf show.

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hello, sorry for this, but bec could you email?  i recieved my boots today
and have a question and lost your address.

thanks, paula

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at 07:30 pm 1/28/98 -0500, fauna88 wrote:
>although i
>do my best to keep up with everything going on with chiapas and stuff, i know
>i must be a least slightly ignorant as to the minute details. so, one
question
>i have, is, by the time we give amy the present (april 12), will their
country
>still be in the same position as it is now - will our monetary donation
make a
>difference to the cause we know right now? (don't flame, just bringing it up)

ig have been involved in the the struggle in the city of chiapas, mexico
for over a year, and it's not a battle that is going to be won anytime
soon.  they could definitely use the support.

i agree with deb reiser that we should stick to contributing to the
organizations that they've specifically endorsed (the actual organizations,
not just the causes).  this would include the resources listed on the
official ig page, as well as slam!.  i suppose peta since they contributed
to the cd, but that was a long time ago, and i wonder if they still support
them whole-heartedly.  many people, including myself, object to peta's
extremist positions (no animal research of any kind) and/or actions (often
violent), so i don't think it would be appropriate for a group contribution.

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karen said:

>said she is doing a tree of monday's show.  maybe you and her could
>connect and figure out who really has the best copy, then offer just one
>to the list?  might simplify things a bit.
>
i think that's what we're going to do.  i'm pretty sure traci's going to
send me a copy of her recording, and then i'll start the tree from
whichever one is better.  that's going to delay things a bit, but it's
worth the wait.  i have a question though.  would it be totally unheard of
for me to pick the better recordings of each song and put parts of both
recordings on the tape?  like if one song has some jerk singing off key in
one recording, and the other doesn't, and vice versa?  you know what i
mean?
leslie

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 11:31:11 -0800
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        hi friends!

        i helped mandi and greta with amy's b-day gift last year and things
went very well!  amy and emily were both *very* impressed by the gift :)
        however, i understand there was some behind the scenes derision on
the list re: emily's b-day gift.
        so, i'm just suggesting that everyone don't rush this!!!!  come to a
consensus on the list about who is is going to run/control the project.  if
there are competing interests we should reach a compromise or have a vote
before proceeding further.
        then we should decide what organization we want to donate to in
amy's name.
we have plenty of time.  last year we only had about one month and still
managed to take care of everything!

at 09:31 am 1/29/98, elizabeth from denver wrote:

<chiapas> ..., since we know amy supports it and is involved with it.  i do
plan to try to talk with her at some point this spring to get her input on
it ....

        i don't think anyone should contact amy directly about her birthday
present.  besides, the proper channel to talk with the girls is through
russell carter's office.  mandi, greta, and i worked with rc's office last
spring and they obliged our request to meet with amy to present her b-day
gift to her.
        remember that amy and emily get beseiged daily by all kinds of
people who want a little bit of their time.  i have a feeling that they
*really don't like* being personnally approached by fans in general, unless
it is at a function dedicated for that purpose.
        i really think it invades a&e's personal privacy to think one can
just approach or contact a&e at any time about anything (unless of course
you are a personal friend).
        we all owe them the respect to contact them through their manager
russell carter as they have indicated we should.  if you communicate with
rc's office as a serious and rational person they will work with you --
really!  however, if you come across as a rabid fan they will be reluctant
to help you.  and remember also that a&e have mixed feelings about this list
already!

        this brings up another point.  someone asked if messages and
personal cards could be sent along with amy's gift.  last year we collected
messages from donors and gave them to amy.  but realize folks they get tons
of fan mail!
        when we gave amy a heavy manilla folder full of messages last april,
her eyes kinda glazed over and she got a real strange expression.  so i
joked sarcastically that, "i'm sure you'll want to read all of those, right
away!" -- at that, she brightened up and gave us a huge *knowing* smile!!! :)
        in other words, (i hate to burst bubbles, but)  a&e are overwhelmed
by fan mail and probably read very little, if any, of it.  i know folks want
to send them personal messages, but again i think this should be done
primarily through russell carter.  i suggest we don't include messages with
this year's gift  -- just one birthday card from the entire list and a
notication of her birthday donation would be appropriate.

sorry for the rant~
tony

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hi elizabeth~

        all the mail i send you gets returned.  i think my ip
(earthlink.net) is on your anti-spam program.  can you delete earthlink from
your spam list, please!

tony

>   ----- the following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
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>
>   ----- transcript of session follows -----
>... while talking to citadel.evolving.com.:
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>       by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with smtp id laa29020
>       for <elizabeth.nitz@evolving.com>; thu, 29 jan 1998 11:29:53 -0800 (pst)
>date: thu, 29 jan 1998 11:29:53 -0800 (pst)
>message-id: <199801291929.laa29020@sweden.it.earthlink.net>
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>content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>to: elizabeth <elizabeth.nitz@evolving.com>
>from: doolittle <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>
>subject: re: thoughts on amy's b-day gift
>
>        hi friends!
>
>        i helped mandi and greta with amy's b-day gift last year and things
>went very well!  amy and emily were both *very* impressed by the gift :)
>        however, i understand there was some behind the scenes derision on
>the list re: emily's b-day gift.
>        so, i'm just suggesting that everyone don't rush this!!!!  come to a
>consensus on the list about who is is going to run/control the project.  if
>there are competing interests we should reach a compromise or have a vote
>before proceeding further.
>        then we should decide what organization we want to donate to in
>amy's name.
>we have plenty of time.  last year we only had about one month and still
>managed to take care of everything!
>
>at 09:31 am 1/29/98, elizabeth from denver wrote:
>
><chiapas> ..., since we know amy supports it and is involved with it.  i do
>plan to try to talk with her at some point this spring to get her input on
>it ....
>
>        i don't think anyone should contact amy directly about her birthday
>present.  besides, the proper channel to talk with the girls is through
>russell carter's office.  mandi, greta, and i worked with rc's office last
>spring and they obliged our request to meet with amy to present her b-day
>gift to her.
>        remember that amy and emily get beseiged daily by all kinds of
>people who want a little bit of their time.  i have a feeling that they
>*really don't like* being personnally approached by fans in general, unless
>it is at a function dedicated for that purpose.
>        i really think it invades a&e's personal privacy to think one can
>just approach or contact a&e at any time about anything (unless of course
>you are a personal friend).
>        we all owe them the respect to contact them through their manager
>russell carter as they have indicated we should.  if you communicate with
>rc's office as a serious and rational person they will work with you --
>really!  however, if you come across as a rabid fan they will be reluctant
>to help you.  and remember also that a&e have mixed feelings about this list
>already!
>
>        this brings up another point.  someone asked if messages and
>personal cards could be sent along with amy's gift.  last year we collected
>messages from donors and gave them to amy.  but realize folks they get tons
>of fan mail!
>        when we gave amy a heavy manilla folder full of messages last april,
>her eyes kinda glazed over and she got a real strange expression.  so i
>joked sarcastically that, "i'm sure you'll want to read all of those, right
>away!" -- at that, she brightened up and gave us a huge *knowing* smile!!! :)
>        in other words, (i hate to burst bubbles, but)  a&e are overwhelmed
>by fan mail and probably read very little, if any, of it.  i know folks want
>to send them personal messages, but again i think this should be done
>primarily through russell carter.  i suggest we don't include messages with
>this year's gift  -- just one birthday card from the entire list and a
>notication of her birthday donation would be appropriate.
>
>sorry for the rant~
>tony
>
>

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hi - this is an open letter to anyone thinking about mailing a message
to me asking about volunteer opportunities in chiapas:
please do not write and ask me about this.  i have no sources for
service opportunities there, and frankly don't think there is a
lot of call for american volunteers.  chiapas is very unstable right
now.  it is a dangerous, dangerous place.  you do not want to go there
to do service work.  the people are in need of food, medical supplies,
etc.  it is, to a large extent, a funding problem.  that and a violence
and lawlessness situation.  asking to go there is like
contacting the army and telling them you'd like to go volunteer to sit
in a foxhole on the front lines during wartime.
my friend goes there for business reasons - it puts food on the
table at her house.  but even she has suspended plans to go for the
time being.  it's just way too unstable.
peace-nic

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well, what a lovely way to wake up on this beautiful summer
day.....an ig article in the major sydney paper!  it is in a
lift out section on the gay and lesbian mardi gra which
happens in sydney from january 30 to february 28 and has a
photograph of them outside capitol hill. printed without
permission and any mistakes mine...except for the title of
the new album - they just missed a word!


overly earnest and proud of it  by kerrie kerans

amy ray, "the other one, the other (indigo) girls", is
making apologies for emily saliers.  "she's still in the
sweat lodge", ray reports from her cold minnesota cabin.

it's not preparation for a gig.  it's not the nouveau
celebrity perk for the successful pop act.  it's a meeting
of honour the earth, "an indigenous activist environmental
campaign run by a bunch of indian activists that we are
friends with", expalins ray.

"we're here because we just did a month long tour to raise
money for it, and we just made a couple hundred thousand
dollars", she says.  "so we come up and meet together and
take proposals for grants to different indian environmental
groups."

the big project for this year is fighting a nuclear waste
dumping proposal pending in the us congress.  clear-cutting,
land rights, mining - the indigo agenda is full of familiar,
if not always fashionable political issues.

"there are some bands that do politics and they're
considered cool because of it," says ray.  "and then there
are some bands that, you're looked at as being overly
earnest.  that's what we're seen as.  but we feel compelled
to do what we do, and so we just do it."

meanwhile, millions of fans have felt similarly compelled to
buy saliers' and ray's succession of albums since the early
'80's - indigo girls, nomads, indians and saints, swamp
ophelia, and shaming the sun among them.  call their
activism comfortable shoe sober, but not their music.  it's
a proud progression of harmony and hot acoustic guitar
playing.  recently, the songs have become more advenurous,
more electric.  "yes, we've gotten more comfortable in the
studio, so we take more risks," answers ray, the girl more
prone to anarchic politics and punk rock. "some of the music
we've listened to in the past four years maybe expands us a
little bit and i think our politics have expanded us. we
started working with a lot of the more strident activism,"
she says, citing the plight of the chiapas in mexico, as
well as native american and gay and lesbian issues.

so what does she think of the soft-sell dykes are getting
these days, what with the ellen excitement and all?
"there's definately a trend of lesbian chic still, and
marketing to the dykes, as you'd say," ray muses. "i think
people are into having a good time...all the straight girls
are into it too.  but it's oksy, that's great, and have a
good time - but just take a minute and realise why you can
be so open about this."

not that she'd be earnest about it or anything.


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>       *****encore*****
>16) romeo and juliet
>17) closer to fine - with danielle howle and the tantrums.
>18) blister in the sun - with d & t

can i just say that i'm soooo sorry to have missed a show
where they *didn't* end with c2f!!! not that it's not a great
and glorious tune, but it would have been such a treat at
the end there to hear just one more -- and blister in the sun,
no less!  -- to overcome my inevitable sadness at having heard
what was sure to be the last song of the night.

green, green, green!
cathy :)

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okay, everybody else has had a shot.  so here's what i think of this song.
lmaf reminds me of a joni mitchell song.  i don't know the name, but i
think it's the fourth (maybe fifth) song on miles of aisles (there's a man
who's been out sailing... is how it starts).  it's a song, not lmaf the
other one whose title i do not know, that glorifies this woman and what she
does and how she affects people.  (if you have miles of aisles, listen to
this song and then listen to lmaf.  i think you'll see the correlation.  if
you don't, e-mail me privately and let's talk about it.)  it seems to me
that our dear emily came across one of these women earlier in her life and
fell for her like many others had and probably have yet to.

i really identify with both of these songs because i happen to be involved
with one of these women.  i think that to understand this song, truly, you
have to love one of them or understand them, at least.  'cause otherwise,
you find yourself asking, "so, if this is how they are, then why did you
stay with them?  why put yourself through that?"  and the answer is because
she is beautiful and wonderful and everything you ever wanted.  it's very
disconcerting that someone can be all of these things and at the same time
be a very closed off, shallow human being when it comes to relationships.
for some more insight into this phenomena, read more about gemini's.  i
strongly feel that in both songs the woman in question is a gemini.

i have some other thoughts on this, but i don't want to get too long.  if
you want the whole story and all the thoughts about this song that i have,
please write me.  i'm happy to share.  thanks for reading.
love and all things indigo,
jessica

p.s.  just one more thing.  mystery also reminds me of the girl i was
talking about before.  so lmaf and mystery are my "shawna songs."  does
anyone else connect these two songs in any way?  if so, why and how?

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this is something that i've been thinking about since i first really
listened to dgtgag.  does anyone else out there think that maybe this song
was written for amy?  i get that feeling.  and i read somewhere that it was
amy's favorite song on sots.  just a thought, and others?
love and all things indigo,
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i agree with jessica, lmaf is similar to joni's "cactus tree" (#5 on
miles of aisles).  while i never would have thought about it on my own,
there are definite similarities, if not in the lyrics, then certainly in
the music (although i think there's a piece of joni in many ig songs).
thanks for pointing that out!

adam

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and of course don't forget there's the line

"let your waters let me drown"

if this doesn't point the song in the direction of hamlet and ophelia i
don't know what does. i know amy said that she doesn't know quite what a
swamp ophelia is but the first time i heard the term i naturally assumed it
was a reference to ophelia's drowning.....i see it all so clearly now!!!
anyone else?

helen - feeling so bright!

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it was brought to my attention that what i said about dgtgag in the letter
about eiiot was confusing.  i'm sorry.  perhaps i should go back a little.

i didn't really know that much about the indigo girls until recently --
moving into a house with a computer can really expand the mind.  so i
didn't know what had gone on in amy's life until i listened to dgtgag.  i
hope that came out correctly.  and i had sots for a while before i listened
to dgtgag.  don't ask me why, i just didn't think that i liked that song.
i listened to almost every other song on the album (i don't care for cut it
out).  but one day sots was playing, and i was cleaning in the other room.
dgtgag came on, and i let it play.  something caught my attention.  i don't
know what it was exactly, but it made me stop what i was doing.  i went
into the other room, got out the lyrics, sat down in front of my stereo,
and replayed the song.  and i was so moved by what i heard and how it made
me feel.  and i understood what she was saying.  i've never experienced
anything like that before in my life, but i understood what she was telling
me.  but, to be perfectly honest, i still don't listen to the song that
often.
after that, i listened to everything in its own time in a different way.
as a friend telling another that everything was going to be alright.  (hmm,
another theme)
i hope the previous letter makes a little more since now.  and, hey, if
anyone's had a similar experience, i'd like to hear about it.

love and all things indigo,
jessica

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i'm baaaack.  come on.  there's gotta be 1 or 2 of you out there that care.  so
hey!  san fransisco was incredible, as y'all have heard numerous times.
everyone was wonderfully detailed, so i'm not gonna do too much of the setlist
oriented stuff.  just a few (dozen) highlights from my two days at the warfield.

first off, nobody mentioned that the warfield was right next door to a strip
club and those of us motivated enough to try for front row (and get it both
nights!) had to hang out in front of that gleaming establishment for a grand
total of 29 hours over 2 days.  it was every bit as bad as it sounds.  waste
products, saliva,  stinky trash, stuff you wouldn't want to look at on the tv,
much less have underfoot was lovingly referred to as "the bacteria zone".  but
it was sooo worth it.  even the monsoon we suffered through during most of
monday afternoon.  there was a huge list contingency at the front of the
line...(watch me spell every name wrong!) lynn, sheri, nancy, cindy, shelley,
linda, celeste, cristal and cheryle among lots of others too.  a huge thank you
must go out to lynn and sheri for taking care of me that first night in the ga
madness.  did y'all realize that washable felt-tip markers are considered
"weapons" by the warfield staff?  and another huge gracias goes out to my savior
cheryle who pretty much made this whole weekend possible for me.   there have
been some icky things floating around the list lately, but maybe we don't focus
enough on all the incredible people who are here and are so wondefully generous
and kind and never even ask for anything in return.  thank you to everyone who
made me laugh and smile and see that even when life gets difficult, there's
always someone or something to pull you through if you look hard enough.

alright, so onto the show.  first of all, when amy walked out on monday and she
and emily started into three hits, she glanced across the front row, made eye
contact with me and flashed me one of those beautiful smiles.  then when they
finished the song she stepped towards me and started saying something.  now can
i ask a dumb question?  does anyone else experience sudden deafness when amy
speaks to them?  i swear i lose all sense of hearing when she opens her mouth to
say something to me.  i look like a total idiot.  i guess that's fate's way of
humbling me.  it works.  well so amy would say something and i would look
confused.  and then she said it again.  and again confusion. and again.  and
miserably i was still clueless and getting desperate.  so she waved her hand at
me like she'd tell me later, but then after she got her guitar from chad it got
really quiet and she caught my eye and took a couple of steps forward and i
finally heard what she was saying.  she said:  "thanks for the books!  they were
great!".  now for those of you who escaped my lengthy fargo, nd (12/14/97)
review, amy took some books from me that i had picked out for her and emily.  so
from mid-december until now she has aparently read them and enjoyed them.
yay!!!  and she remembered me.  i swear i have this complex that nobody ever
remembers me, but especially not after a month and after seeing thousands of
faces at every concert all over the country.  i was thrilled to say the least.
can i plug the books here?  i'll be quick.  the authors are achy obejas, cherrie
moraga and maria de zayas.  check them out (amy did!).

what else?  guess who else remembered me???  sulli!!!  i swear i thought this
woman was sweet all along, but i had no idea of the magnitude.  before the
girls' set on tuesday i held up a sign that said:

amy, emily and
   sulli
can it get any
better than this?!?

so i just waited for her to look my way (seems rude to be screamin' her name at
the top of one's lungs, so i don't) and she read the sign and smiled real big,
then looked down and saw that it was me holding the sign and do you know what
she did?  she said: "hi marivel!  marivel, right? you're a long way from home,
aren't you?"  can you believe that?  now if i met *you* for 10 minutes in a
parking lot and told you my strange name, then 3 months later i met you again,
would you be able to remember it and where i met you?  well sulli remembered it,
and she got the accent right.  unbelievable.  it's just so thoughtful.  so for
all of you who freak out cause we only love sulli for what she can do for us
(ie. picks and setlists), just remember that a lot of us love her because of
stuff like this.  remembering my name was the best souvenir she could have
possibly given me.   oh and i held the same amy/emily/sulli sign up when the
girls came out and it made emily smile really big.

oh and i'm going to die about this sacramento show that they closed with blister
in the sun.  surely i'm giving myself waaaaay to much credit, but the
coincidence is erie.  you tell me...okay so on tuesday night the second to last
sign i held up was this:

                  what if...
               life were fair?
              love never left?
         closer to fine didn't mean
            the end of the show?

now you have no idea how much this sign seemed to please amy.  it caught her eye
right away as she and emily were going into ctf and instead of looking over
quickly and then right back to her microphone, you could tell she was intrigued.
it's that kind of thing where you look real casually at something and then for
some reason you get caught up and can't look away for a while.  well so she read
for a few seconds and smiled thoughtfully and had to look away to sing a harmony
part, then a few seconds later she came back to the sign and stared at it for a
really long time (considering she was singing a song at the time, 15 seconds is
quite a spell!).  then she looked at me and smiled a big huge wonderful smile.
i almost melted right there.  i'm really glad she liked it so much.  and even
though ctf ended that show (cause they had already done blister...) i can't help
but think that maybe my sign gave them the idea to switch up the order the next
night.  ya think?  probably not, huh?  well i still i wish i would have been
there.  okay well i have a million more things to share, but i'll give you all a
break and wait a few hours.  so you've been warned!  there's more coming...


marivel

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now that we're face to face after all this time
you asked me to save your ass
well baby, i'm far to busy saving mine..."

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hey!  well another gift that san fransisco gave me (besides the time of my life)
was my very first autographed so album, and to top it all off it was green and
it had an identical twin that my lovely partner in (castro) crime, cheryle, got
to buy.  now i've never seen one of these things, but i just looked at it
closely for the first time and noticed some words scratched into the plastic
around the label on both the song list side and the autographed side.  on the
front of the album the following words appear:

"kev"

pal . 57621  . (ia)

viva la diva

and on the back of the record these things appear:

pbl . 57621 . (ia)

"kev"

in memory of john blizzard

okay, now i know who john blizzard is and i can understand why it might be
scratched in here, but why viva la diva (aside from the obvious cooper link)?
why "kev"?  and is this something that's done with a machine?  looks pretty
hand-done to me, but what the heck do i know?  does everyone else's version have
this stuff on it?  enlighten me please!!!

marivel

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now that we're face to face after all this time
you asked me to save your ass
well baby, i'm far to busy saving mine..."

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 18:51:55 -0600
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>i read on the ig newsgroup tonight that there will be a
>south park episode in which the fab four decide to become
>lesbians. rumor has it that the girls' music plays a pivotal
>role in helping them accomplish this!
>anyone got any details?


i just finished reading the article about south park in the new issue of
rolling stone and there was a small mention of this rumored episode.
here's what it says...

        "a board with plans for a future episode--in which the forces of
good,   represented by the cure's robert smith, battle those of
evil,           personified by barbra streisand--lists scenes with
titles like "boys       lick the carpet and listen to indigo girls to
become lesbians" and    "wendy has barf montage to 'memories'."

i do know that there are supposed to be four new episodes in
february...but i don't know if this is one of them.  guess we'll just
have to wait and see.  :)

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date:         fri, 30 jan 1998 12:38:13 +1100
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or amy has seen john everett-millais painting ophelia. even
the cover of so reminds me of the style of art of the whole
pre-raphaelite movement.....go here (and scroll down a bit)
if you want to see.

http://www.cs.su.oz.au/~greenhouse/images/pre-raphaelite/ophelia.html

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to everyone who helped me find the songbooks -
thanks! ya'll are great!
sandy

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hey everybody...
i just wanted to put in my bit about smyal, the sexual minority youth
assistance league is based out of washington dc.  we are organizing a benefit
concert for smyal for a project for school (we will be announcing details
about that shortly and we really need support for that so for those who live
in this area please...we dont wanna have to grovel...)  but basically they do
they are a support organization as i believe youthpride is, but it only serves
the dc metro area. every time the girls play wolftrap they donate the proceeds
from at least one of the shows (they usually play 2) to smyal.  i think that
if not a charity supporting chiapas, it should be an organization (because i
knew you all were wondering ; )   anyways...is there an organization that is
like smyal or youthpride that serves the whole country or a major part rather
than one city...just wondering...

also, in rolling stone this month rage against the machine will be playing a
show in dc in april benefitting the zapatista peoples...perhaps the girls will
join them...

lastly i think this may be a stupid question, but i am tired and my decent
judgement goes after 2pm...anyways...have they just been going straight into
dead mans hill lately, or does amy bust out with her melodica intro from the
so tour...just wondering...alright thats enough outta me for the evening

peace
sasha

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 18:14:22 -0800
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hi everybody!
so, i think i've got enough branches for the tree now.  like i said before,
i am waiting to receive another copy of the show so i can tape the better
of the two for y'all, so please understand that there will be a delay, and
that these people don't have their copies yet.  anyway, if you are
interested in the 1/26/98 warfield boot, here's who you should contact:

if your first name starts with a-c, contact:
alexandra       aaogilvie@aol.com

d-g contact:
jude                hunterj1@aol.com

h-j contact:
ilana               wind80@aol.com

k-m:
hugh               hugh40@ix.netcom.com

n-q:
pam                mnoelm@aol.com

r-u:
shelley            shel1018@aol.com

v-z:
heather          hhusted@bu.edu

if i screwed up anybody's address, or somebody's name is here that
shouldn't be, or if there is any other kind of freaky mistake or problem,
please email me privately.  i am turning the list off again this weekend to
go to the la show. :) :) :) :) :) i'm taping that one too!! :)
oh, and thanks to everyone else that volunteered to be a branch.  there
were a lot of you, so to use everybody would defeat the purpose of a tree.
:)
have a wonderful weekend!!!
leslie

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date:         thu, 29 jan 1998 19:25:28 -0800
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i can't keep my absolutely true and incredible story to myself any
longer. back in december just before tickets to the west coast ig
concerts were going on sale, one morning my friend beth meets me on the
side walk outside of school and says excitedly, "guess what, violent
femmes are coming!" and i said, "that's nice, so are indigo girls." and
she said, "duh, i meant to say indigo girls, not violent femmes. where
did i come up with that?" and we left it at that. then a week or two
later i found an ad that said violent femmes really were coming here. i
showed beth and she was excited and we marveled at her amazing psychicness.
and now to bring it full circle, the girls actually did blister in the
sun. i told beth today and she couldn't believe it. wow, she's so cool.
hope ya liked the story. i'm off to eat dinner now.
-sam (who "gets" to fill out even more college applications tonight)

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at the request of my anonymous slam! source, i'd like to reiterate the
following points:

* slam! is a very small organization, barely surviving.

* the key to the survival of slam! is the upcoming benefit ig concert.  please
note the figure being donated by a&e in my last post - somewhere between 20
and 30 thousand dollars.

* slam! has become the life and breath of its founder, leslie nuchow.  the
other core people involved are also struggling artists who could *really* use
our support.

* the figure donated for amy's birthday last year was $2500.  think what a sum
like that could do to help kick-start slam! into a new realm!

and one other thing:

*the only thing i know about the concert is that ig will be performing
sometime in april, near amy's birthday.  please do not email me with requests
for more info.  i will post to the list as i find things out in the near
future, and i'm sure my source will reveal themselves when they feel the time
is right.

peace, harmony, and indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  ~novitiate of suzanneglassism
   ~president, grlchasr26 fan club
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"and he said, you can't buy anything.  and i said well why not?
and he said, cause you're in my front yard!
boy did i feel as white as the snow!"
-amy ray
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in a message dated 98-01-29 11:49:24 est, elizabeth.nitz@evolving.com writes:

<< although i have
a question for the fabulous tigger:  does this organization support
women's causes just in the us or is it international in nature? >>

i believe slam! to be international in nature, in the sense that slam!
promotes the rights of women everywhere and things of that nature..... as for
where slam! actually operates, they're in the u.s. and very small, the kind of
grassroots thing that a&e really like supporting.  (translation:  they don't
have any money and really need help.)

peace, harmony, and indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  ~novitiate of suzanneglassism
   ~president, grlchasr26 fan club
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and he said, cause you're in my front yard!
boy did i feel as white as the snow!"
-amy ray
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in soy there is a lyric:

    "....let's put on some tunes / sing along / dolittle all day...."

tony (doolittle <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>) informed me that my answer
to the jeopardy question about "what does 'doolittle all day' mean" was
incorrect.  i pointed out that the little book thing in the sots jewel case
has the spelling "dolittle" and there is a radio recording (that someone
recently pointed out, btw) from http://www.kmtt.com/realaudio/indigo4.ram
that has emily and amy in the radio station studio singing, amy sings
this:

   "...let's put on some tunes, sing along ... *and* dolittle all day...."

is there a specific mention somewhere which has amy saying it's the answer
that tony sent me back?

- rick

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hey everyone!

just wanted to let you know (if you were wondering what happened to me)
that i got my email back up and running.  and got netscape to stop
crashing... thanks to don!  (you're great don... i can't say that
enough!)

so, yeah, i'm up.  (and it's like... time for bed now...)
later,
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>does anyone else out there think that maybe this song was written
>for amy?

hmmm ... i don't understand how you get that feeling.  what about
the song has you thinking that?

btw, does it crack anyone else up when emily sings "languageless
connection" the way she does?  :)  i always grin. hehehe :)

>and i read somewhere that it was amy's favorite song on sots.

i totally love this song.  it's definately one of my favorites on sots.
i've really come around to liking amy's songs on sots, though.  i have,
in the past, typically like emily's songs more than amy's.  i still
like emily's songs but i've found myself *really* liking sys and sb.

i still don't like raj (i realize amy didn't write this, it just seems
to be the song most people associate with her) ... but i really do
appreciate amy's energy performing that song, especially after seeing
her perform it live.  she was glowing...........................*sigh*

- rick

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hi all,
       i'm not being picky or negative but i was wondering one thing...it
seems that after every show, each person who attended posts a review and
setlist.  i love the reviews and think that there can't be enough (and i am
wicked jealous that you all get to see ig when i'm stuck up here in maine
long after they've passed by us) but i'm curious if we can not post so many
set lists...maybe, if you are planning on doing so, each person can check
the list and make sure that someone else hasn't already done so...
     again, it's not really that important, nor a major gripe, but a small,
humble request...
                    peace,
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at 10:38 pm 1/29/98 -0500, rick wrote:
>>hang out, don't work (it's "dolittle all day")   x -$200  answer: the
>pixies album "doolittle"
>
>the album inset says "dolittle" (exact spelling).
>
>- rick

        all of the answers to this round's jeopardy questions can be found
in the ig's faq.

15. questions about songs from "shaming of the sun"
===================================================

15.1. what does "dolittle all day" mean?

amy is referring to the pixies' 1989 album "doolittle" (the title is
spelled wrongly in the album lyrics).  on "world cafe" in may 1997
she explained, "['shame on you'] is about the importance of the
beauty of, like, ethnic things in our life... i was listening to the
pixies' album "doolittle" and van morrison and all these things one
day, when my friends were over.  they have a window washing company,
and they were, like, giving me a present, to wash my windows, and we
were all hanging, and it's like all of a sudden, it turned into this
song about immigration, i don't know what happened."


doolittle :)

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hey,

anyone heard of this bootleg cd, and know what songs are on it??

please email me private.
ta
jodi

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hey all!  me again.  back with still more intricate details about eye contact
and smiles at these 2 sf shows.  when life is miserable all these tiny little
things become so much more joyous.  so forgive me for being so wordy.  i love to
relive this stuff...

alright, so where was i?  well, more signs.  since i don't have boots with me to
listen to, all of my memories of the shows are tied together by my signs.  i
asked again about the fish/snowflake shirt and whether or not anyone had figured
out what it meant.  the answer is no.  nobody has a clue and it doesn't look
like they're gonna figure it out, so maybe we just have to chalk this one up as
abstract art.  not supposed to represent anything per se.  sound good?  cause
amy just keeps looking at me with this totally clueless look in her eyes and i
think if *she* doesn't know by now, none of us are ever gonna know...

mmm.  i asked again about virginia slam.  i know that people have already posted
about the month of april, but i always hope that the girls will have some secret
bank of knowledge when it comes to this stuff.  they don't.  she just told me
april.  but then again, she was speaking to me in the middle of a concert, so
really even though it was info i already had, it was comin' from amy herself and
that's enough to make it worth while to hear again.

oh, this is good....i made a sign that said:

     did y'all know that there
         was a nudie joint
          next door when
            you booked
          this venue?!?!

so i held this one up on monday and amy read it and looked up at me right away.
she got this very mischevious grin on her face and nodded her head a bunch of
times.  as if she were saying: "you bet i knew...and i think it's funny as
heck!".  i wasn't amused.  okay, i *was* amused.  'cause it's amy and we were
having a little mini-conversation about nudie bars and how in the world could i
not be amused by that?  but still.  i think she thought it was pretty funny that
we had to spend that much time outside a strip club (and i bet they had quite a
laugh at us as they sped by in their tour bus both days on the way to
soundcheck), and that they were performing next door to it seemed to strike her
as funny too.  oh well.  i brought some laughter to the evening.  even if it was
at the expense of all of us in line.  sigh.

so then the next day i made yet another nudie bar sign that said:

           do you know what
          it's like to spend
           29 hours in front
          of a nudie joint???

             two words:
              not fun.

now amy read the first half of the sign and smiled again, but she looked away
before i had time to flip to the second part.  but later in the song (can't
remember which one) emily saw the sign and took a couple of moments to read the
whole thing (a real acomplishment for me and my signs, cause usually em is the
business-like one who seems less interested in my signs than amy always is).
anyway, emily read the first half and looked at me with her eyes open really
wide and shook her head and said "no."  so apparently she's never spent 29 hours
in front of a nudie joint.  good to know.  so when i flipped to the second half
of the sign, and emily was still interested in what i had written and was
waiting to see what the rest of the sign said, she looked at me with a really
sad, sort of apologetic look on her face and said quite loudly: "sorry!".  it
was so sweet.  and there you have it.  for those of you who waited in line all
that time.  emily is sorry that it had to be in front of an exotic dance club
and that we had to stare at that woman in the front window with her hand down
her pants.  is that too graphic for the list?  hope not.  it was right out there
in public.  well so my point is that emily apologized for our icky experience
and for me that just makes it all the more worth while, you know?  not that it
was her responsiblity of course.  the ironic thing was that we of course had all
chosen to be out there basically living on the street for 2 days.  all the
hundreds of people that passed us by and hung out right along side us don't have
the opportunity to move in and out of that life nearly as easily as we do.  and
they certainly don't get rewarded for their suffering like all of us did with an
incredible concert at the end of the night.  it was quite an experience.  but
still.  i could have lived without the nudie bar...

what next?  oh, i drew quite an interesting cartoon of amy and emily with a
whole bunch of detail (i got the earings, the heart charm on emily's bracelet,
her painted guitar strap, amy's scratched up black acoustic guitar, etc).  i
think i pretty much nailed down amy's green striped shirt, too.  i thought i'd
get more of a reaction from them, but i should have known that they're not too
excited about seeing their own images, so even though it was a drawing, they
maybe got a little shy about it.  or maybe the drawing was so bad that they
didn't even realize it was them.  funny.  oh well.  it said: "thank you for the
music and so much more!!!"  and if i decide to quit grad school, maybe i can
sell bootleg cartoon ig t-shirts at concerts. they were a pretty big hit with
the people in line.  alright.  i'm kidding!!!  no bootlegs.  no t-shirts.  just
miserable grad school and spanish lit for the rest of my sad and lonely life.
sigh...

oh, the second night i held up a sign that had emily's name on one side and then
i flipped it over and on the other side it said: "moof?"  i have always wanted
to know what this word on emily's guitar strap means.  but i think maybe it's
personal because she wasn't responding at all to the sign.  so i won't ask
again.  but it would have been cool to know.  hey you!  moof out of my way so i
can get by!!!

okay i'm gonna send this.  i think i can get one more installment out of these
concerts.  so that will be coming in a few minutes.  thanks for listening...


marivel

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and i walk and i walk and i run myself through
i am still too scared to leave and
i am still too scared to stay
and there's nothing left to say..."
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okee dokey.  well so in addition to all of this great interaction with the girls
in san fransisco i got to give them a couple of things, and got a few things in
return (aside from incredible music and a lot of bruises from trying to receive
a fallen sign).  the first night i brought some of the photos that i've been
sending to all of you, and wrote down where they were taken and when and got to
hand amy a little packet of them when she came to the edge of the stage to hand
me her setlist.  the second night she was also kind enough to give me her
setlist and when she stepped over the amps and cords to hand me the sheet of
paper i handed her a little stuffed toy dog (wishbone) that i had shown her
earlier in the show (it made her laugh cause i told her that he would love to
see australia if there was room in the luggage).  i'm hoping that he makes it up
there with the pink beanie pig on em's amp, but i'm not holding my breath.  if
they kept every toy they ever got on top of the amps at every show, those things
would cave in from all the weight.  but if anyone happens to see a little white
doggy sittin' anywhere on stage it would make my millenium to hear about it.

well so i got amy's setlists directly from her both times, and the second night
i saw why this kind of thing doesn't happen more often.  first of all it's
pretty precarious for her to come out to the edge of the stage and lean so far
over to hand me the setlist, but then i saw something that made me pretty mad.
someone brought a card or something, and when amy came out to hand me the
setlist at the end of the show this person seeme to think it was their shot and
they proceeded to throw the envelope up on stage and hit amy in the back of the
leg with it as she was turning around to get back over the amps.  she felt it
and turned around to see what it was, but never bent down to pick it up.  can
you blame her?  there were a couple of other women who had brought some docs for
emily and they asked first and had them handed up to the stage, exactly how
these sort of exchanges should be done--with amy's or emily's permission.  i
still cannot believe that someone would throw something at amy as she was
walking away.  heat of the moment i guess.  but you'd think common sense would
tell you that's not the way to go.  anyway...

so i think that's it.  oh, someone posted that they got a setlist and that it
wasn't the original, but that there were only 2 on stage.  well actually there
are quite a few more than 2.  amy and emily each have a copy taped to the floor
(with lovely black tape torn by the wonderfully skillful sulli), and then the
sound board has a copy,  and the guitar techs have copies (i would assume one
for chad and one for sulli since their stations are so big and separate).  and
then the sound people on the floor usually have one too.  so there are lots of
them floating around.  and even more when sara and jerry are there too.  not
that this matters or anything, but you know me.  gotta point out the obvious.

okay i think i've hit my limit for the day.  but i'm sure i'll remember little
things as the days go by.  like the surprised look on emily's face when she was
playing so hard during one song that her little yellow pick flew out of her hand
and onto the floor mid-song.  oops. she had some incredibly passionate guitar
faces on those 2 days.  wow was she into it!  so if i can think of anything
else, you all know that you'll be the first to hear about it (no that's not a
threat!).  take care and thanks for sticking with me for sooo long (or deleting
quick..which ever is your preference)!

marivel

"i am dangerously lost and confused
and i walk and i walk and i run myself through
i am still too scared to leave and
i am still too scared to stay
and there's nothing left to say..."
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so does anyone know if they're going to go this year?  thanks to my wonderful
new california buddy cheryle, i got to see the '89 grammys and the few snippets
of amy and emily are almost too good to be true.  short, but oh soooo sweet.  if
you have this one on tape, i strongly suggest going back over the whole thing
with a fine tooth comb...

and the winner for best lean-in in a country music category when she doesn't
realize she's on camera stretches way too far backwards and into the shot...amy
ray!!!

and the winner for worst pronunciation of a simple band name:  best folk album
by the "in-yig-oh girls"

and amy wore a t-shirt to accept their award!  and slapped a big ol' leather
jacket on for the evening's events. bigtime eyeliner for amy and even bigger
hair for emily.  and can i just say thank goodness for slow motion?  a 3 second
shot turns into a 5 minute amy-fest.  very cool tape.  so the thing is...is
anyone out there capable of copying this for me?  i'm also dying to find the
girls' performance of galileo and the interview with jay leno on the tonight
show a while back.  anyone have these things?  i have minimal tape stuff to copy
(the traditional on the road to austin and some older and newer tv appearances),
but i do have more good concert photos and can also reimburse or do blanks and
postage.  anyone...?

marivel

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and i walk and i walk and i run myself through
i am still too scared to leave and
i am still too scared to stay
and there's nothing left to say..."
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i go tthis off of outvoice, thought you might be interested...
have an indigo day!
                                jeanette

                so what is love then, is it dictated or chosen
                does it sing like the hyms of 1000 years or is
                it just pop emotion 'and if it was ever here and
                it left does it mean it never was true?
                                 emily sailers
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los angeles times, january 29, 1998
times mirror square, los angeles,ca,90053
(fax 213-237-7679 or 213-237-5319)(e-mail:  letters@latimes.com)
(http://www.latimes.com)

heavenly harmony
indigo girls head to town with acoustic folk sound and ever-adoring fan base.
by bill locey, special to the times

     after marching through georgia and beyond, the indigo girls,
inspirational heroines to a generation of young women, bring their brand of
introspective folk rock to the arlington theatre in santa barbara for a gig
tonight on their "shaming of the sun" tour. opening will be danielle howle &
the tantrums, another atlanta-based act.
     emily saliers and amy ray met in elementary school in atlanta, and began
performing in high school in 1980 as saliers & ray. three years later, while
attending emory university, they reinvented themselves as the indigo girls.
     now 15 years later, following six albums, five nominations and a grammy
for best contemporary folk recording in 1989, the girls are going as strong as
ever.
     despite scant chance of overexposure on radio or mtv, the indigo girls
continue to be a strong touring act and have generated a substantial fan base,
not as numerous or as colorful as those deadheads, but fully as dedicated.
     over the years the indigo girls have toured with the likes of r.e.m., the
neville brothers and the grateful dead, and just about everybody else.
     cool indigo girls fact: a few years back they did a "ten-dollar tour"
wherein tickets and t-shirts were 10 bucks each.
     while saliers and ray can harmonize in a most heavenly way on stage, and
have sold close to 5 million albums since 1989, they have never written a song
together. essentially then, each indigo album is two albums in one, with each
collaborating on the arrangement of the other's songs. so far, it works.
     not just a couple of rich girls content to do idle rich girl stuff, the
activist duo has raised a considerable amount of dough for a number of
political and environmental groups dealing with children's health, domestic
violence, gay rights, reproductive rights of women and zapatista supporters in
chiapas.
     in 1995 alone, the indigo girls raised $300,000 for native american
environmental groups opposing the nuclear waste policy act of 1997.
     since it was her turn, emily saliers answered the inevitable questions
during a recent phoner.
* * *
     question: how has the music scene in atlanta changed since you two
started way back when?
     answer: oh boy. i think it started when record companies began to show an
interest in the local bands. first the georgia satellites got signed, then
r.e.m. and then the neighbors. we're not home as much as we used to be, but i
don't think things have changed too much. there's a lot of great local bands
playing in clubs, helping each other out. it's still a very eclectic scene
just like when we were coming up through the ranks.
     q: what's the strangest gig you've ever played?
     a: once we were opening for r.e.m. and everyone kept talking and throwing
m&ms, so we had to discipline the audience. it's very different being the
headliners, but we still do like to open for our friends sometimes.
     q: how did winning a grammy change things for you?
     a: not at all, except maybe the attention we get from the press. so now
it's the 'grammy award-winning indigo girls,' but as far as the way we feel
about our music, it didn't have any effect at all.
     q: how do you survive on the road?
     a: get lots of sleep. read good books. exercise every day, and bring our
friends on the road to open for us.
     q: tell me about your opening act, danielle howle.
     a: she has a voice like patsy cline but a bizarre sense of humor, and she
writes these hilarious folk-rock songs. and all the guys in her band are
great, plus she's on daemon records, amy's record label.
     q: the indigo girls have all these dedicated fans.
     a: they're dedicated all right. they wait out in the rain even when we're
not able to come out and sing. i see a lot of familiar faces. last summer when
we did our solo tour, we were still learning the songs, and we were screwing
up right and left. but they've always stood by us during our long musical
journey as well as our political journey, which is our raison d'etre.
     q: what kind of mail do you get from your fans?
     a: we get a lot of letters that are very personal, so i don't want to
really discuss any of that. we get letters from people who say how our songs
have helped them through a particular crisis. we get letters from people in
drug rehab who have connected with certain songs. it's all very gratifying.
     q: what's the worst advice you've ever been given?
     a: you're gonna have to kiss a lot of butt in this business.
     q: what advice would you give to aspiring songwriters?
     a: try not to censor yourself. don't worry about where it's going to end,
and just write from your truth.
     q: this one's out of the rock critic's handbook, and thus, i have to ask
it: describe indigo girls music.
     a: it's acoustic folk music basically. both amy and i have a lot of
different influences from elton john and neil young to joni mitchell.
     q: is there such a thing anymore as southern rock?
     a: oh absolutely, but these days i can't put my finger on it. back in the
days of lynyrd skynyrd, it was more identifiable.
     q: what's the most misunderstood thing about being a musician? for
example, do people think that you sleep all day? and do you sleep all day?
     a: not hardly. actually, the older i get, the earlier i get up. it's nice
and quiet in the morning. i guess some people see this as a glamorous, fast-
paced and exciting life, but oftentimes it can be very demanding. but it beats
digging ditches. i'm not complaining.

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date:         fri, 30 jan 1998 01:10:37 -0800
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i have been on cloud nine ever since i got my ig ticket for san diego... i
was under the impression i was in the second row (row b floor 1) but after
careful scrutiny of the floor plan, it looks like i might actually be in
the _last_ row of floor 1!! i am so depressed... i didn't buy tickets for
the la or sb concerts because i thought i had such good seats... i bought
my ticket not long after the show went on sale, so i don't know if i could
have even gotten better seats.

this has been such a hard week for me... my boyfriend of 2 years broke up
with me, i attempted to kill myself, what a mess...
music has helped me to get through all of this. i am still looking forward
to the concert (my first one even though i've been a fan for years,) but
somehow it's not the same, ya know?

sigh...

emily

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date:         fri, 30 jan 1998 22:41:38 +0800
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hey..
has anyone attempted to translate any ig chords into cello music, even
partially and any song?
ta
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hi ya'll!

i've had this odd thing in my head lately. does anyone else find that they're
so used to listening to the cd's that as soon as one songs over, they're
preparing their ears for the next to follow? that doesn't make sense- but i
mean, every time i hear three hits i expect the beginning of galileo to play
next... you know what i mean? i have this tape i made off the radio with my
first ig song (which was galileo), and now every time i hear the breeder's
tune- do you love me now? i start to sing turning japanese....  this is kinda
my version of the seasonal ig albums. (which, yes, is a phenomenon i've
experienced as well. 1200 curfews & the self titled are definite winter
albums, but rop is spring...)

and in unrelated news:

i'm on a mission!! i was just going through some old videos & found a
performance by my other favorite band, concrete blonde from about 6 years ago.
i've always regretted not seeing them live, and i figured the next best thing
was memorex! so basically this is a call for anybody out there who might have
concert tapes of the blonde & would be interested in a trade! i have a lotta
neat stuff, so e-mail me privately if you'd like to trade shows!! :)

peace,
  rick
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all these changes...* -willow rosenberg
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date:         fri, 30 jan 1998 11:03:41 est
reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 29 jan 1998 - special issue

--- cathy wrote:
subject: re: sacramento set list

>       *****encore*****
>16) romeo and juliet
>17) closer to fine - with danielle howle and the tantrums.
>18) blister in the sun - with d & t

can i just say that i'm soooo sorry to have missed a show
where they *didn't* end with c2f!!
--- end of quote ---
amen and hallelujah sister! i cannot believe i missed this either, and i know
margaret clayton is like pulling her eyelids backwards about it too right mc :)

i saw the violent femmes play live here about a year ago and the highlight was
bits. i can't help but wonder what *they'd* sound like doing c2f!!! probably
wacked!

xo, sus

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date:         fri, 30 jan 1998 11:23:29 -0500
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>oh, the second night i held up a sign that had emily's name on one side and
>then i flipped it over and on the other side it said: "moof?"  i have always
>wanted to know what this word on emily's guitar strap means.

well, obviously, "moof!" is what the dogcow says! ;-)

(enlightenment: <http://devworld.apple.com/dev/dts/dogcow.html>)
kirsten

kirsten chevalier * mchevalier@wellesley.edu * often in error, never in doubt
"we hear our hero say:  '\n'"--the internet oracle
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        do not endorse the selling of bootleg cds!!!!!!!!
live tapes are great! but bootlegs allow some stranger to make a mean
profit at the girls' and your expense!  stop the insanity!

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hello--i just turned on the list---if someone has already posted an sb
set list from last night, could you email me privatly with it???  i'm dyin'
to know what they played.  thanks in advance.
vicki

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get over the righteous attitude, we've had this discussion on the list a
hundred times before, their are reasons why people buy live cds, and anyone
who is going to spend the $$ on a boot probably has all of the legit
releases, i mean there are some descent boot cds - but in my opinion -
nothing close to 1200 curfews. besides the history of us is a great disc if
you get a good one - the masjority of the discs burned when it first came
out had some problem with them. play the disc before you buy it - some are
really messed up on this release.
mike r.

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i just called the ucsd box office.. i couldn't take the suspense
anymore...

it turns out their online seating chart is f*cked up! the rows in floor 1
and 2 don't start with row 1, like it indicated... they start with row a!!

that means i have second row seats after all (insert happy tears of joy!)

the box office honcho apologized for having a lame-o seating chart.
anyway, i checked the online ticketmaster site, and there were still 3rd
row single seats available, and tons of tickets for the floor area. it
makes me wonder if they are even selling the other sides of the arena...
anyway, whatever tickets allotted to the online outline have not been
taken yet. i guess i shouldn't really be surprised.. the girls aren't as
popular here as they are in other places.

anyway, everyone can look for the crazy woman dancing by herself even if
everyone else is sitting!! if someone faints from excessive excitement,
that will be me!!!

it's my first ig concert!!! wooo hooo!!

p.s. if anyone needs directions to the arena, let mw know.. it's kinda
tricky :)

emily

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date:         fri, 30 jan 1998 18:52:46 +0000
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yeah, i do find sometimes, like when i'm listening to the live
danielle howle cd, i find myself waiting for the next story or next
song - as soon as it gets too familiar, that's when i know i have to
buy something new!

john.


peppermint patty : "happiness is a warm puppy, a b plus..."

marcie : "and kind friends"

(charlie brown and snoopy show)

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hey folks,

thanks to all those that participated in auction #2, i think fun was had
by all. this cd is of course a staple for any collection. shades of indigo
is cool for two reasons..one the interview (by shawn colvin) and two the
great unreleased live music. here's what's on the disc:

1. conversation
2. 1.2.3
3. conversation
4. southland in the springtime
5. conversation
6. hammer and nail (live)
7. conversation
8. melissa (live) <-- amy's great cover of the allman brothers classic
9. conversation
10. watershed (live)
11. conversation
12. pushing the needle too far (live)
13. conversation
14. you and me of the 10,000 wars (live)
15. conversation
16. daddy's all gone (live) <-- james taylor tune..sweet

due to numerous requests, i'll keep the current bid posted on my site:

        http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones/bid.html

please feel free to write with any questions and of course bids. please
note that this is a real copy of shades, not one of the gold cd-r versions
that have been discussed on the list. it's the purple cover as well.
hope all is well and happy collecting.
we are fortunate ones,
joe
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hi,

the show was great!  what a beautiful theater.  david crosby was the guest
performer and everyone went nuts when he came out.  he said that whenever
amy and emily do a show they audition fans in the area to see who can play
a song with them and he said he got there before anyone else.  then he
played a song about 3 women and dedicated it to 3 women.  one of which he
loves more than the other two and it was amy, emily and his wife.  and the
whole time i was thinking, "you love emily than your own wife?"


thsi is what i remember, but it's not going to be in the right order:

secure yourself
least complicated
don't give that girl a gun
it's alright
i don't wanna know-w/the tantrums
power of 2
dead man's hill
everything in it's own time
david crosby song
romeo & juliet
virgina woolf
cut it out
get out the map
shame on you
galileo-w/david crosby

winthrop
blister in the sun-w/the tantrums (emily on banjo)
closer to fine-w/everyone


there might be some more, but i can't remember.  it was great, and i got
to talk to emily for about 2 and a half seconds afterwards.  i requested
"wood song" for tonight, and she said she'd try to remember.

ok, that's it.

wendell

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hey :)

neil says, "did anyone eventually organise this?? 'cos if not, then i think
i'm going to volunteer..."

@}--,--'---

(neil's still not on the list, so he (still) has no clue. )

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ok everyone, i know this is against the rules but i need help.  i need to find
lynda crowley.  i have tried to get in touch with her for weeks and her
address is no longer valid and neither are her pages...someone please say
you'll help me, and lynda if you are reading this please e me privately.....

-muli

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>from: outvoice!!
~snip!
>     emily saliers and amy ray met in elementary school in atlanta, and began
>performing in high school in 1980 as saliers & ray. three years later, while
>attending emory university, they reinvented themselves as the indigo girls.
~snip!

does the use of the term "reinvented" here strike anyone as a little odd??
i mean, i realize it's just a journalist's word for use in a write-up
in a local paper, but it seems to have such a strong overtone
that doesn't apply to the girls.

the girls' music has always been able to touch so many people because
they are so real and honest and themselves in all situations and about all =
things. this article makes it sound like the "saliers & ray" thing wasn't
working so they went out an got an image and a clever name in order to
have a shot in the music business. but i see them as the complete opposite
of that.
(but overall it was an interesting read.)

any other thoughts??
cathy

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it looks as if the person i was going with to the show tonight will be
unable to go.  i would hate to waste this ticket and i would also not like
to use it on someone who doesn't care about the band.  if you would like to
go, please call 213-769-5013 asap and leave a message.  i am being sincere.

jacob

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hi all...
sorry for the waste of bandwidth...
a friend of mine has released an excellent video celebrating midwifery
and home birth, on which i did some script editing.  i may be partial,
but i think it's great and inclusive of all women, across social, racial
and ethnic lines, and including interviews with lesbians about their
birth experiences.  as one of these women explained, "hey, more and more
of us are choosing to have children."
anyone interested in learning more about it can email me privately.


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michelled shocked is going to be at the 9:30 club mar 1st and mar 2nd...

hope she does anchorage and come a long way :)

also...mary lou lord is going to be there on sat feb 21st..

ok...that's it..

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subject:      left me a fool

has anyone seen this song done live?  any idea why it's not often
included in concerts?

val

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hello everyone,

since i'm new to this, i'm going to introduce myself.  my name is brian
belbis. i hail from chicago, il.  i have been an ig fan since 1989 or so.  my
question to everyone is:

a couple of years ago, i was in a cd store and ran across an ig screen saver.
i was going to pick it up but unfortunately, i didn't have a computer at the
time. as it turns out, now that i have one, that screen saver is nowhere to be
found.  does anyone know where i could pick one up. is there anywhere on the
web where i could order it.  if you know the answers to these questions,
please respond.

thanks for your help.

brian belbis
bbelbis@aol.com

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date:         fri, 30 jan 1998 16:16:27 -0800
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kirsten wrote:

>>it said: "moof?"  i have always
>>wanted to know what this word on emily's guitar strap means.

>well, obviously, "moof!" is what the dogcow says! ;-)
>
hmmmmm... i always attributed the word to those wretchedly impatient cows
queued up behind me in concert line-ups. man... ya don't hoof it the
*instant* the line starts to inch forward and they're all over ya...
"mooooooof!!! moooooooof!! c'mon sister, moooooof it!!" tsssk. achem...
heard *amy* say it on 1200 curfews once.....
lolololol!!!
btw... whattaya get when you cross a dog + a cow???
answer: *very* large holes in the back yard:-)
peace all:-) kim

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date:         fri, 30 jan 1998 20:29:56 -0500
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i know i wrote about this before, but i am getting things ready to mail out
to various places and wanted to make one more plea...
i am looking for an internship/service job to do this summer.  i would love
to do something affiliated with ig or any other grassroots or otherwise
cool organization...if anyone has any great ideas, please email me...i am
running out of brilliant ideas and need something worthwhile for the summer.
thanks again,
alisa

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kim: goddess in her own reality wrote:

> hmmmmm... i always attributed the word to those wretchedly impatient cows
> queued up behind me in concert line-ups. man... ya don't hoof it the
> *instant* the line starts to inch forward and they're all over ya...
> "mooooooof!!! moooooooof!! c'mon sister, moooooof it!!" tsssk.


- i always heard it attributed to cows with buck teeth :)

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date:         fri, 30 jan 1998 20:40:49 -0500
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sorry for the waste of bandwidth, but helen....we baigls got your mail about
your visit, but when i tried to email you, it bounced back to me....please
email me...we will be planning a baigl get-together when you come....

back to your regularly scheduled programming....
joni :o)

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 11:01:04 -0800
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hello,

        i've been on the list for about a week now, but this is the first time
i am actually writing. (yay!) let me just say that is is soooo great to
find people who find the indigo girls' music as wondrous, as magical,
and as touching as i do.

        more on that in the future; right now i wanna just ask a question, and
hopefully someone out there can answer it...

        i'm currently deciding on a new guitar purchase, because my friends and
i are organizing a band of sorts and one of the groups we will cover is
the indigo girls (natch!) anyway, up to this point all i have been using
is a locally-made classical guitar.

        needless to say, i have zero knowledge when it comes to plugging in and
that sort of thing. i have never truly been enamored by electric guitar
as i have with acoustic ones --when i first heard "joking", it was
reached in and switched on something in me that no song had ever been
able to do so before--and i was hoping someone out there can help me out
on this to get that real acoustic feel.

        my playing style at the moment is pretty much like amy's (her songs are
way easier than emily's..yipes!) my friends suggest a washburne
acoustic-electric, but for me the steel strings are kinda wierd and
nowhere near as flexible as nylon. should i go electric or buy a good
pickup? help would be greatly appreciated.....

ian c.

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date:         fri, 30 jan 1998 22:42:26 est
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hey, y'all. :)

     i'm rejoining the list after a little while off and on....my name is
katie, i'm 17 and i live near athens, ga. :)  hooray!  near decatur!  ;)
anyway, i went to my first ig concert in november when they came to atlanta,
but i have been a fan for a loooong time.  well, anyway, i've been playing
guitar for about four years, and i was wondering if anyone had some random ig
chords (besides the ones that are posted everywhere on the
web)....specifically, i would really really really like "thin line", "power of
two", and perhaps "it's alright", "caramia"---actually just anything you could
send my way would be wonderful!  thanks so much!  hope everyone has a terrific
weekend. :)

always,
katie 8-)

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hey!

    what's up? :)  i just got my first electric guitar this christmas...it's a
silvertone and it's beautiful (but i'm slightly biased ;).  if you prefer
amy's playing style, i would definitely go for an electric.  get a nice one,
though, b/c many are terribly cheap.  if you don't like the feel for the
strings, you can always get different ones fairly cheap at any good music
shop.  yay!  have fun playing. :)

always,
katie =)

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hey y'all~

        the leaders in game 2 of jeopardy are:

        1st - egohound with a perfect $10,300 points!
        2nd - dee schulman & claudine lapsky are tied with $10,100 points.
        3rd - indigofrk has a solid $9,700 points.

        all of the answers to round 2 can be found in the ig's faq <hint, hint>

        some of the more interesting answers this round were in response to
what a&e might do about bootleg recordings:

q:      what will a&e most likely do to you if they find out *you* have a
bootleg of one of their performances?

        answers:        give you a big ol' hug
                        say "cool!"
                        maybe they would ask if it was good
                        ask for a copy
                        autograph it

q:      what will a&e most likely do to you if they find out you are
*selling* unauthorized bootlegs of their performances?

        answers:        string you up
                        whip your ass
                        not very nice things...very bad
                        be awful damn bitter at you
                        spam you

thanks everyone for playin' jeopardy!!!!

        the final jeopardy category for game 2 is "lyrics"~~

if you have a positive score in game 2, please email me with your wager and
i will send you the question.


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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 00:38:17 -0500
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subject:      nigc:  sarah

sarah mclachlan was just on leno.
she's somethin' else....just thought i'd share.
'night
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date:         fri, 30 jan 1998 21:42:17 -0800
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has anyone heard of a band called sister gin?  my
friend who goes to mankato state (mn) says they're a
folk band that hasn't realised and album.  i ask
because he said they did a cover of "that closer to
fine song".  thanks.

jeremy

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greetings ig people!!!
well, here's my first attempt at an ig concert review and setlist.  since i'm
such a "green" listee bear with me! :)   i know the order of songs is not
quite right and i'm still reeling from tonight's show with all these feelings
dancing around my head and heart but...... here goes!!!  (i thought 'bout
waiting til morning to post but i'm too wired and i gotta get it off my
chest.)
    can i just say first off that the girls rock!!!!!  i feel sooooo
priveleged to be able to witness live music at it's best.  i am grateful that
a&e continually choose to share their gift with us with such unselfish abandon
and genuine enthusiasm.  i also love the fact that they make it a point during
the show to thank us for supporting them. that's the epitomy of the grateful
artist!!!!!!  can't say that about too many others.
    this was definitely "special guest" night!!!  we had matthew sweet,
kristen hall,  vonda shephard,  jackson browne,  ani difranco and a few others
whom i regretfully cannot name.  but wow can you believe the talent up on
stage!!!!!!!  oh, and danielle and the tantrums(the openers) joined in on a
few songs.
the fellow on harmonica for chickenman was awesome.  like the previous west
coast shows it was just a&e and their variety of guitars & other stringed
instruments on a candlelit stage.  they both seemed to be having fun up there
and appeared more comfortably accustomed to being without the band compared to
earlier shows up north(based on some of the norcal/northwest reviews i
remember reading).
    well, i'll leave it up to some of you others to perhaps take it where i
left off and give your thoughts on tonight's show.   here's the setlist to the
best of my recollection:

>least complicated
>deadman's hill
>i don't wanna know
>get out the map
>shed your skin
>it's alright
>a song of which i'm not familiar with (sung by matthew sweet(cutie!) and the
girls)
>ghost
>cut it out/wish you were here(pink floyd)   man, the guitar work!!! i was
entranced!!

>virginia woolf
>hammer and a nail
>shame on you
>baby don't you break my heart slow (beautiful duet with emily(hands free) and
vonda shephard(song's author) on piano    (amy took a break here)

>scooter boys(included a spoken segment performed by ? which spoke of the
injustices in mexico) --sorry i'm not more detailed here, i had to pee!  :)

>let it rain (kristen hall, matthew again, and the girls)  --great song,
kristen!!

>chickenman  (awesome acoustic version with amy breathily speaking some of the
last verses and the great harmonica work by ?man)

>galileo (with jackson browne on backup vocals) --looking mighty handsome i
must say and seemingly amused at how the entire crowd was singing so
skillfully when the girls let us finish a verse.(as they so often do)

encore:
>love's recovery

>blister in the sun(the femmes rock!) the tantrums played along here and their
drummer sang a chorus of...."stopped to check you out!!!!!"  everybody was
thrashin' to this one. this version alone will make the boots worthwhile!!

>closer to fine  (oh no say it ain't so, marivel!!!  time to leave :(  this is
were we see ani.  i will never grow tired of this singalong song!!!!

hey everybody, thanks for listenin' !

laura a.   (feeling very blessed to be going to the sd show as well!!!!)

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date:         wed, 28 jan 1998 12:14:30 -0700
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subject:      re: nigc - vinyl
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speaking of vinyl, although, this does have igc...over xmas, i found a
record of "indigo girls". does anyone know how available this is?

just curious,
amy m.

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 09:25:26 -0500
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>do not endorse the selling of bootleg cds!!!!!!!!

i agree.  mass bootleg cd's sold for profit are wrong.

>live tapes are great! but bootlegs allow some stranger to make a mean
>profit at the girls' and your expense!  stop the insanity!

but if you simply distribute bootlegs to let more people listen
to the music (without making a profit) then all you're doing is
helping the artists cause.  bootlegs are usually not very good
quality, but they are the lifeblood version of the artist's songs.

i have a cd-burner and would be willing to burn onto cd any bootleg
tapes.  i would ask you send me a blank recordable cd and the tape you
want put on it with sase.  these cd's would play on any audio cd player,
home, car, etc.  i'll record it then send the tape and cd back to you.

if you want me to compress them into .mp3 format (cd-like, no loss of
sound quality) then i can fit about 740 to 2,000 minutes on a single cd.
these .mp3 cd's would play only on a computer with winplay or winamp or
other compatible .mp3 decoder.  but, the benefits are obvious.  740
minutes is approximately eight 90-minute tapes.  2,000 minutes is approx
twenty-two 90-minute tapes.

if interested e-mail me privately.

- rick

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 16:43:33 +0000
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subject:      re: nigc:  sarah

hi!

> sarah mclachlan was just on leno.
yeah, and for all european listees: she's gonna be on leno tonight,
let's say around 22.45 cet.

peace and
take care,
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now this is indigo girls fanaticism at its best!!!!!!!!!-
it's people like this who make me proud to be a die hard fan!
you rawk girl!

<< the warfield was right next door to a strip
club and those of us motivated enough to try for front row (and get it both
nights!) had to hang out in front of that gleaming establishment for a grand
total of 29 hours over 2 days.  it was every bit as bad as it sounds.  waste
products, saliva,  stinky trash, stuff you wouldn't want to look at on the
tv,
much less have underfoot was lovingly referred to as "the bacteria zone"
but
it was sooo worth it.  even the monsoon we suffered through during most of
monday afternoon...  >>

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 12:54:52 -0500
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hey folks-

any of you who know someone subbed to the list and *not* on digest
version and if you happen to know that they're using windows 95 and
netscape 3.x as their mailer... if they've tried to access their e-mail
since friday... their netscape browser has *totally* crashed and burned,
and no matter how many times they re-load netscape... they *cannot* get
on-line. if they have icq, or you know their phone number... they can
get it fixed asap.

the list was accidently mail bombed on friday - seriously. a bug in
netscape's mailer was affected by something in the header of a lister's
message. i do *not* know whether or not it affects anyone using netscape
2.x or 4.x or windows 3.x or nt.

the good news is that i found out how to fix it (because don richards
told me). if you know of anyone with the problem, just e-mail me and
i'll send you a detailed description of how to fix it - then you can
call them on the phone to read it or if they already have icq, i can
help them if you find out their icq #.

try to e-mail your friends who sub to the list bounce version, and ask
them to e-mail you asap to find out if they've been affected... or just
call them and ask. this won't affect folks on the digest version,
because it is something in the header.

no, this isn't a rumor. no, i'm not making it up. it happened to me. it
also happened to don richards <donrich@neo.lrun.com> and barb & twink
<bf2brland@sprintmail.com>. don is the one who figured out how to fix
it, fortunately we know eachothers' phone numbers.

hope you're all okay.

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hey kind friends!

i've gotten many many many responses so far about burning boots for
people.  if you are interested please send this information:

1) the # of tapes you want me to burn for you.
2) the length (in minutes) of audio content (just estimate, most boots
have stuff at the end of side b that's just blank)... so give real
estimation.  remember, 74 min per cd (max).

then i'll send you back information about how long it will take, snail
mail address, how many cd's and what to send to me and i'll get them taken
care of as fast as i can.

remember this!!!

this is a time consuming process ... i have to play each of your boot
tapes to record them onto my computer in .wav format (one .wav per song),
then burn them onto the cd.  if you want the .mp3 compression program (so
you can fit more music onto a single cd, but it requires .mp3 program and
computer to play) then i have to do an extra step and compress the .wav
into .mp3 format.  this takes about 15 minutes per track!!!

so please remember that i'm going to be spending a lot of time in front of
the computer doing this for you.  so don't abuse my kindness or i'll turn
evil and have to send all your tapes back... heheeh  :)  seriously though,
please consider what's involved before you send me your 48-tape boot
collection and say "please put these on one or two cds in .mp3 format".

thanks!  have a great weekend!

- rick

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 14:24:50 -0500
reply-to:     indigo head <s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu>
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hey!  does anyone know when the curve magazine with the second part of the
amy article will be on sale at bookstores?  i want to get it as soon as it
comes out, but that means taking a "trip to dayton" (no stores heer in
springfield will carry it!).  so i only want to go when i know that it
will actually be there!  thanks so much!

:-) karen

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 15:23:08 -0500
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organization: working on it...
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re: moof - the dog/cow/getouttamyway/bucktooth question...

in the liner notes for an early cd or individual song by emily, she
thanks or says that a song is for "moof and trace"... to the best of my
recollection.

this is just from memory. i'll let a completist find the specific
reference. i don't have the energy to look.

sorry... no jokes today from mel. nothing seems funny at the moment.

peace...
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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 12:56:46 -0800
reply-to:     jeanette lynn <reposa@scf-fs.usc.edu>
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if anyone has boots of the la and san fran shows, please let me know,
because i really want a copy...im willing to trade, or whatever..thanks a
lot!!!
                     have an indigo day!
                                jeanette

                so what is love then, is it dictated or chosen
                does it sing like the hyms of 1000 years or is
                it just pop emotion 'and if it was ever here and
                it left does it mean it never was true?
                                 emily sailers
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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 17:06:25 est
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laura's review, very nicely, captured the concert i experienced as well.
here are some highlights that i'll comment on.

in a message dated 98-01-31 06:04:26 est, svenskalca@aol.com writes:

<< can i just say first off that the girls rock!!!!!  i feel sooooo
priveleged to be able to witness live music at it's bes >>

i have to second you on this one the girls rocked in deed.

<<this was definitely "special guest" night!!!>>
ani difranco was a great surprise, it was fun to watch her and amy laughing
and interacting with each other at the beginning of "closer to fine". another
highlight of this song was: amy begins to whistle and as the crowd is cheering
she looks over at emily who has proceeded to step up to the mic and join in
whistling with her. the crowd gets silent for a few seconds, and you just her
a&e whistling, it was great. it never ceases to amaze me what forms they take
to harmonize with each other.

hearing kristen and the a&e sing "let it rain" was beautiful, though it seemed
like emily's mic was up higher then amy's cause you could barely hear her
harmonizing. then again it could of been my seats, or maybe amy was singing
softly on purpose.

<<the fellow on harmonica for chickenman was awesome.>>
yes, for those interested that was dave.

<<scooter boys(included a spoken segment performed by ? which spoke of the
injustices in mexico)>>
if i remember correctly that was john trudell(?). it was beautiful how a &e
quietly harmonized on their guitars while he was speaking.

<<cut it out/wish you were here(pink floyd)   man, the guitar work!!! i was
entranced!!>>
i was excited to hear this because of the pervious reviews i had read, but i
was"blown away". it was pure amy at her best.  the desire of wanting something
that was lost was just dripping from her. at one point she was just whispering
the words "wish you were here" it made my heart ache. oh god, i just realized
how melodramtic that sounds, sorry :). i guess i can just relate too closely
to what she was expressing up on the stage. ok i'll shut up now. :)

<<blister in the sun(the femmes rock!) >>
this song rocked. amy went over to the drummer towards the beginning and
motioned something like "your turn", it was great. plus she was doing some
fabulous dancing, she was really getting into it.


well i just realized how looong this it getting, ;0 so i'll make one final
comment. this was the first time i've seen "just them" in concert , but it
seemed like they were more inclined to hang next to each other while playing
guitar solo's and such. amy went over to emily quite a few times and just hung
there and grooved, it was great. you got to experience first hand their
camraderie. it reminded me alot of the video " live at the uptown lounge"

to those going to future concerts, enjoy.
presti :)

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 17:43:54 -0500
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from:         rick hodgin *** author of q/language <foxmuldr@indy.net>
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hey kind friends!

i've had a couple people ask me about the fact that they don't know who i
am and how do they know if i'm not going to take their stuff.  well,
there's no way for me to prove to you that i won't until you send it to me
and i send it back.  i hope this is an opportunity for me to show you all
that i'm not a bad guy ... i really am doing this out of the goodness of
my heart.  :)

so far i have about 30 cds to burn for people.  this will amount to about
60 hrs worth of work.  not all of it will be continuous or dedicated.
most of it will be (just like copying boots) just start it and let it go
through.  i'm not complaining or anything ... but i really wasn't
expecting such a large response.

if anyone knows of a way they can be assured that i'm not going to just
take their stuff i'm open to it.  one way might be to just send me copies
of your boots rather than the originals.  but i would just like to say
that i am totally honest here.  i'm not trying to steal your stuff.  :)

take care and have a great weekend!

- rick

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 19:16:34 -0500
reply-to:     juliet <js_carri@alcor.concordia.ca>
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wwwwello!
can anyone tell me if the warfield boot has blister & wish you were here
on it? sorry, my memory is busy with other stuff (like i have to remember
to do those homeworks!) thanks!!

july ;)

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 19:35:32 -0500
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actually, except for a few songs prior to shaming of the sun, amy was
pretty much accoustic...
i don't think that you can say her style is more suited to an electric...
just my opinion, tho
peace
     s

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> from: katie h. bennewitz <peachy706@aol.com>
> to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject: guitar choices :)
> date: friday, january 30, 1998 10:38 pm
>
> hey!
>
>     what's up? :)  i just got my first electric guitar this
christmas...it's a
> silvertone and it's beautiful (but i'm slightly biased ;).  if you prefer
> amy's playing style, i would definitely go for an electric.  get a nice
one,
> though, b/c many are terribly cheap.  if you don't like the feel for the
> strings, you can always get different ones fairly cheap at any good music
> shop.  yay!  have fun playing. :)
>
> always,
> katie =)
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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 19:15:42 -0500
reply-to:     barbara corrice <bcorrice@wam.umd.edu>
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from:         barbara corrice <bcorrice@wam.umd.edu>
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listen guys, out of the goodness of his heart, a very special person like
rick has offered to do a genuinely kind and sweet favor for fellow listees.
if you have any doubts about his honesty or integrity, don't ask him to
waste his time doing something for you!  just remember - you lose big
time!!!  rick is a wonderful person.

is it really necessary to question the motives, honesty, and sincerity of
the people on this list?  i certainly come to this list believing in the
innate goodness of human beans! some may think i'm naive, but for goodness
sake, being able to trust is a really a good thing!  always being suspicious
makes you ugly inside!  trust makes you smile and reminds all of us that
there are sooooo many loving, kind, and honest people in the world.

rick, i am sorry that anyone had the audacity to question your motives or
your integrity!

have fun, stay safe, be happy & enjoy,
barbara

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 19:58:47 -0000
reply-to:     allison hastings <alhastings@mindspring.com>
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sorry ahead of time for this remark but, yet another reason to own a mac
:-)

back to lurkdom,
allison

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date:         sun, 1 feb 1998 12:12:57 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

allison said:
>sorry ahead of time for this remark but, yet another reason to own a mac
>:-)

sheesh. *grin*

i have one clarification to mel's earlier post, actually - it
wasn't a mail bomb, it was an geniune error.  the email in
question had an incorrect date/time stamp, and there's a bug
in netscape 3 which caused it to crash every time it tried to
read the message header.  i hope everyone's managed to get
their email fixed now... sorry for the mess.  hopefully this
won't happen again (until we hit 2000 that is, heh)...

boy, that wasn't much of a clarification, was it? :)

btw, this is random but does anyone out there remember scott
ninneman?  i came across a copy of his tape yesterday
(forgotten i'd had it) and was just wondering if anybody knew
what scott's up to now.  email me privately, i'm just curious.

this one's for don richards: happy happy, :)
sherlyn
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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 17:14:08 pst
reply-to:     alicia bender <rainbowgirl69@hotmail.com>
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sorry to waste bandwidth, but, i was wondering if anyone knows what
happened to melissa ferrick?  hidwater knows nothing about what she's up
to, and the war site has old info.  has she given up? :(

also, for those interested, dar williams is coming to play at wells
college, which is near ithaca, in nys.  she's playing on the 8th of
feb., and tix are $10.  if you want  more info, contact kristin
keiswetter at 315 364-3330, or email to kkeiswetter@wells.edu (i think).
anyway, this is an awesome opportunity for dar fans to see her in a
small, personal setting, while she's still attainable.:)

thanx, and sorry again.
alicia

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 21:04:26 -0500
reply-to:     indigo <hull2106@fredonia.edu>
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i don't think melissa has given up, just last year she released mf+1 and
that did have a new song on it.  i have a feeling she will probably be
recording again soon.  she is too talented to just give up.
of course this is just opinion but i think we'll see more of her:)

kate

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 19:19:59 -0800
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hi,

i wanted to comment that of all the west-coast reviews i've read,
there's one thing that has not been mentioned. how incredible danielle
howle and the tantrums have been. she was so energentic and her
interaction with the crowd was great. vonda also did a great job at the
warfield.

la was a non-stop suprise. i didn't know who was going to show up next.
i had great seats on the emily side. there was another suprise sitting
in fromt of me. jay underwood had seats in the row in front of mine.
he's the guy from "the boy who could fly". i couldn't help noticing
because he was so close. he's a big time ig fan and from what i observed
he's an emily person. he called out for "the wood song" like three
times.

the highlights have been many. seeing joan baez doing a "chicken dance",
getting a pick, yelling "hey emily" as she walked to their bus and have
her smile at me, getting to meet and make an impression on danielle
howle and hearing blister in the sun. i was able to get to take the
vinyl lay quiet awhile album in for danielle to sign. she seemed very
appreciative of my enthusiasm for her music. she couldn't believe i had
that album. ok, this more than enough commentary for me to make.

when we get a little distance some things get clearer,
leticia
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date:         sun, 1 feb 1998 11:38:14 -0800
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hello all,

        i just wanted to thank everyone who wrote back on my guitar queries; i
love this site!!!! while i am still undecided, you have all given me a
lot to think about and will help me make a more informed final decision.

        btw, in case anyone was wondering, i guess i didn't really describe
myself too much, so for those interested, i am a 22-year old male art
student from the philippines who proudly claims to be this country's
biggest ig fan, and will readily challenge anyone who disputes that. my
hands are kinda small, so i guess that's a plus in steel's favor, but i
gotta say i do ~so~ love the sound of nylon. ah well, it's up to me to
decide. thanks again!!!!

ian c.

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date:         wed, 28 jan 1998 22:08:47 -0500
reply-to:     kristina d vaskys <cheesehed@juno.com>
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from:         kristina d vaskys <cheesehed@juno.com>
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sherlyn wrote:
>i have one clarification to mel's earlier post, actually - it
>wasn't a mail bomb, it was an geniune error.  the email in
>question had an incorrect date/time stamp, and there's a bug
>in netscape 3 which caused it to crash every time it tried to
>read the message header.

oooooh nooooo!! i think that message was mine. . .it was sent on the
27th, but when i got it back, the date said 1/24/98 and i have no idea
why. . .did i just break a bunch of people's computers?? and i thought my
ignorance and evil touch with computers was only limited to my own--i've
never broken anyone else's computers before!! (i just somehow have this
special little knack. . .every time i'm around a computer, i always do
*something* wrong that makes it break). yikes. anyhoo. . .if it really
was my email that made everyone's computers go all screwy, i'm really,
really sorry! i'll *try* not to do it again, and i hope everyone's
problems are fixed now. . .

all things indigo,
kristina :o)

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 23:21:22 est
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sorry for the waste of bandwidth-
meaghan m- i received your envelope and your ig mag will be in the mail 1st
thing monday morning- enjoy! -leah

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date:         sat, 31 jan 1998 23:38:33 -0500
reply-to:     chelsea arkin <righteousbabe@mindspring.com>
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>hey,
>    my friend just sent me a mix and i want to  know more info about a few
of the artists.  here they are.
>1. lucy kaplansky
>2. kaia
>3. toni childs
>4. catie curtis
>5. phranc
>6. melissa ferrik
>     if you can give me some info  e-mail me
>                     thanks,
>                        chelsea

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