lifeblood: listlogs: 1998-02b


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date:         sat, 7 feb 1998 16:58:54 -0000
reply-to:     melissa singhaus <msinghaus@msmisp.com>
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     i have the great woods performance on tape already. i recorded it off
of pay-preview when they performed the concert. if i had anyway of dubbing
it i would dubb it for people. it is an excellant performance. it was i
believed three hours long. missy

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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 12:44:15 est
reply-to:     bbelbis@aol.com
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from:         "digest  brian m. belbis" <bbelbis@aol.com>
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<< hello everyone!

whoa! i have been getting response mail concerning my stance on ctf up the
wazoo!  i have decided to address all of my hate mail publically instead of
individually.

in case you haven't read my stance on the song, here it is:

> << i think that it eleviates (sp) the angst of dissappiontment
>  when you are waiting for yet another encore song, and it just doesn't
come.
>  it gives me the opportunity to close the evening with something wonderful
>  and familiar.  it is true closure for me. >>
>
> i have a real problem with this statement. (please excuse me for writing on
> this subjuect for the umpteenth time but someone always adds something that
> gets me erked).
>
> how many concerts has this person seen in their lifetime? 1? 2? a handful?
> whatever the number is, he/she doesn't know half the truth when it comes to
a
> great concert experience.  when one goes to a concert, you just don't want
> that concert to end!  the best concerts i have attended were the ones where
> they come out for a second and third encore.  you just don't see an end in
> sight!  now that's a great experience.
>
> when the ig play ctf, you know they're not going to play another song.  ctf
is
> the end of the concert.

>

as it turns out, that person has attended quite a few ig concerts. well, in
my defense, so have i.  i have seen them over 2 dozen times over the years.
in addition, i probably attended over 400 other shows of other bands. i will
appologize to that person, but i will not budge on the fact that i think i
know a little bit about concert experiences.

when i wrote that statement, i was merely offering the list my opinion.  i
know i'm not the only person on the list that agrees with me because i also
got mail in support of me.

so, sorry for all those i had offended but i just had to speak my mind.
does my stance on closer to fine really make me any less of an indigo girls
fan than the rest of you?  i really don't think so.

regards,
brian >>

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date:         sat, 7 feb 1998 18:04:29 est
reply-to:     bbelbis@aol.com
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hello everyone!

whoa! i have been getting response mail concerning my stance on ctf up the
wazoo!  i have decided to address all of my hate mail publically instead of
individually.

in case you haven't read my stance on the song, here it is:

> << i think that it eleviates (sp) the angst of dissappiontment
>  when you are waiting for yet another encore song, and it just doesn't come.
>  it gives me the opportunity to close the evening with something wonderful
>  and familiar.  it is true closure for me. >>
>
> i have a real problem with this statement. (please excuse me for writing on
> this subjuect for the umpteenth time but someone always adds something that
> gets me erked).
>
> how many concerts has this person seen in their lifetime? 1? 2? a handful?
> whatever the number is, he/she doesn't know half the truth when it comes to
a
> great concert experience.  when one goes to a concert, you just don't want
> that concert to end!  the best concerts i have attended were the ones where
> they come out for a second and third encore.  you just don't see an end in
> sight!  now that's a great experience.
>
> when the ig play ctf, you know they're not going to play another song.  ctf
is
> the end of the concert.

>

as it turns out, that person has attended quite a few ig concerts. well, in my
defense, so have i.  i have seen them over 2 dozen times over the years.  in
addition, i probably attended over 400 other shows of other bands. i will
appologize to that person, but i will not budge on the fact that i think i
know a little bit about concert experiences.

when i wrote that statement, i was merely offering the list my opinion.  i
know i'm not the only person on the list that agrees with me because i also
got mail in support of me.

so, sorry for all those i had offended but i just had to speak my mind.   does
my stance on closer to fine really make me any less of an indigo girls fan
than the rest of you?  i really don't think so.

regards,
brian

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date:         sat, 7 feb 1998 19:01:25 -0500
reply-to:     rick hodgin <foxmuldr@indy.net>
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from:         rick hodgin <foxmuldr@indy.net>
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christy said [edited by me]:
>at the concert in bloomington last year on dec.9 everyone knew every
>word. they let us sing to tons of songs and they seemed so shocked
>and pleased we all knew the songs.

oh yeah!  when the crowd sang the *prostrate* part (like 1200c version
of ctf) emily laughed out loud in the mic.  she was laughing and looking
at amy who was also smiling really big, they couldn't even finish singing
the "got my paper i was free-eeee!" part. hehehe :)  good times!

it was a definate highlight of that show.  they let us sing the entire
3rd verse and they were smiling and bouncing.  it was really great!  we
sang parts of so many songs.  they really got into our energy.

also, remember this concert was immediately after the dec 2 fiasco in
louisville so they probably didn't know what to expect.


~~~~~          _o_                  --world falls--
|o|  all     _/ | \_  "this world was meant for me / don't     |o|
|o| things      |      bury me (carry me) / i wish i *was* :)  |o|
|o| indigo     / \     a nomad, an indian or saint / the edge  |o|
|o| - rick   _/   \_   of death would disappear, leave me      |o|
|o| =================  nothing left to taint" - amy ray        |o|

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date:         sat, 7 feb 1998 17:51:53 -0600
reply-to:     michael holloway <ankh9467@apex.net>
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from:         michael holloway <ankh9467@apex.net>
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i am so confused.  i get 5 messages some days (the majority of days).
somedays i only get one.  i didn't think about it until i wrote something
to the list and i never got it.  so i don't know if i'm sending things
incorrectly or if something else is wrong or if evrything is normal.
please, if you can ease my mind about this, i would really appreciate it.

jessica

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date:         sat, 7 feb 1998 18:11:18 -0600
reply-to:     "lisa m. schreihart" <lschreihart@juno.com>
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from:         "lisa m. schreihart" <lschreihart@juno.com>
subject:      nigc - caroline aiken

hey y'all,

does anyone know if caroline aiken's self-released
1991 album danging with danger is available?  i
was just at her website.  it talks about it, but there
is no mention of ordering info or even if it's still
available.  there's also an earlier release too, but i
didn't get the name of it.  anyone have any info?
thanks!

lisa

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date:         sat, 7 feb 1998 19:34:52 -0500
reply-to:     carolyn e turett <ceturett@juno.com>
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from:         carolyn e turett <ceturett@juno.com>
subject:      n*i*s question

i was looking at the cover of nomads....the todd murphy painting.  does
anybody know if all of the lyrics are scribbled on there, or just parts?
if so, which songs?  i see parts of y&motttw, wf, maybe hmd...i can't
make out much!  maybe i need glasses....

oh, and did anybody note that while emily is usually on the right when
you look at them, in the pic amy is on the right?  or is that something
with reflections that i'm too lazy to think about...? :)  but anyway,
sorry if this has been discussed, but i'm curious....

love,
carolyn
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date:         sat, 7 feb 1998 19:59:27 est
reply-to:     bbelbis@aol.com
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from:         "digest  brian m. belbis" <bbelbis@aol.com>
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in a message dated 98-02-07 18:04:29 est, bbelbis writes:

<< hello everyone!

whoa! i have been getting response mail concerning my stance on ctf up the
wazoo!  i have decided to address all of my hate mail publically instead of
individually.

in case you haven't read my stance on the song, here it is:

> << i think that it eleviates (sp) the angst of dissappiontment
>  when you are waiting for yet another encore song, and it just doesn't
come.
>  it gives me the opportunity to close the evening with something wonderful
>  and familiar.  it is true closure for me. >>
>
> i have a real problem with this statement. (please excuse me for writing on
> this subjuect for the umpteenth time but someone always adds something that
> gets me erked).
>
> how many concerts has this person seen in their lifetime? 1? 2? a handful?
> whatever the number is, he/she doesn't know half the truth when it comes to
a
> great concert experience.  when one goes to a concert, you just don't want
> that concert to end!  the best concerts i have attended were the ones where
> they come out for a second and third encore.  you just don't see an end in
> sight!  now that's a great experience.
>
> when the ig play ctf, you know they're not going to play another song.  ctf
is
> the end of the concert.

>

as it turns out, that person has attended quite a few ig concerts. well, in
my defense, so have i.  i have seen them over 2 dozen times over the years.
in addition, i probably attended over 400 other shows of other bands. i will
appologize to that person, but i will not budge on the fact that i think i
know a little bit about concert experiences.

when i wrote that statement, i was merely offering the list my opinion.  i
know i'm not the only person on the list that agrees with me because i also
got mail in support of me.

so, sorry for all those i had offended but i just had to speak my mind.
does my stance on closer to fine really make me any less of an indigo girls
fan than the rest of you?  i really don't think so.

regards,
brian >>

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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 12:07:56 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey everyone,

okay, let me just say that this could potentially be the
worst thread we've ever had. *grin*  so, of course i must
put my two bits in!  (ha.)

* a man goes to see a hypnotherapist because he's
suffering from kid fears.  she cures him; a little too
well in fact... a few days later he's out walking in the
country and happens to walk by emily's house.  she's out
in the garden weeding her tomatoes with her pets.  he
goes up to her and proudly exclaims, "i'm in love with
your goats!"

and another emily one:
* emily goes to rent a house.  when she gets back,
suzanne calls from boston and asks her, "was the lease
complicated?"

somebody stop me...
sherlyn, who *told* you this was gonna be bad! :)
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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 13:22:24 -0500
reply-to:     "anne c. hill" <ahill7o9@mwcgw.mwc.edu>
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hi everyone-
with all due respect, i think the people who flamed you were offended
by your "condescending" attitude more than your opinions.  it's rare
that people on this list try to censor other people's opinions, at
least in my experience.  and speaking of experience, just because
some people have seen more concerts than others, that doesn't entitle
them to treat less fortunate people as if they didn't know what they
were talking about.  whether you've seen zero concerts or 1000, no
one is more of an "expert" at seeing concerts than anyone else.  i
know that i should send this via personal mail, but i'm a terrible
person who likes to hear other people's views.  sorry.  :)
-anne

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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 13:10:57 -0500
reply-to:     melsouth@mindspring.com
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subject:      ellen (future and past) - sigc
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hi folks-

i was poking around tv web sites, and saw this on abc's for an upcoming
episode of "ellen":

wed, feb 25, 1998 _ellen_: "it's a gay, gay, gay, gay world":

     after sniffing a heavy dose of insecticide, spence wakes
     up in a world where homosexuality is the norm-- joe is in
     love with him and paige has tatoos and a buzz haircut. has
     he landed in the "twilight zone?" harvey fierstein guest
     stars as himself.

(hmm... gotta get me some of *that* insecticide!)  ;)

okay, for some actual igc: i missed this one the first time around on
cnn's site from jan 7, 1998:

   http://cnn.com/showbiz/9801/07/ellen.lilith.fair/video.html

it's a 2 min 22 sec vxtreme streaming video of a report about the "ig
and sarah mclachlan" episode. there are several long shots of ellen
singing with ig. you need the vxtreme plug-in to see it. you can
download it for free on that page - it's available for: win 95, win nt,
powermac, solaris, and helper app for win 3.11.

:o)
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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 13:19:56 -0500
reply-to:     "j.pyles" <jpyles@cougarnet.netexp.net>
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hey, is there anyone who is willing to copy the cd 101 performance of the
girls in the big room  for me.  pleeeeeeeasse!!!!!  i know that there were
a lot of requests for it after they did it but i did not bother to ask
then due to the number of requests.  so . . . since it has died down is
there anyone willing to do me a favor?  i have a tape i will just send to
copy it on.  thanx!!!!!

j&t

p.s.  i just heard shame on you from the big room replayed on cd 101 the
other day.  wow . . . whatta treat.  cd 101 rocks!!!!!

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date:         sat, 7 feb 1998 20:53:54 -0800
reply-to:     hugh barroll <hugh404@ix.netcom.com>
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subject:      meiwei wu please contact me (nigc)
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meiwei

my mail to you keeps bouncing.  please contact me with a return address
i can use.

hugh barroll hugh404@ix.netcom.com

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date:         sat, 7 feb 1998 23:48:43 -0800
reply-to:     celeste <us@ecis.com>
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ok, am i off the list? i just tried to post and it got returned...then i
went on the net to get back on it, and i couldn't get into the site! what
do i do? i also only got about 3 posts from the list from before 4:00.
please help!

thanx, celeste

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date:         sat, 7 feb 1998 23:59:14 -0800
reply-to:     celeste <us@ecis.com>
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a while ago, somone posted about how to get the 1200c insert (or other ig
inserts).
could someone email me with how to get it (them)?

thanx, celeste

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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 10:16:34 -0500
reply-to:     cathy <catherineann@mindspring.com>
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i can't remember if this has been posted yet, but i'll tell ya anyway ...

christy and i were meandering around the fine and funky shops
at little 5 points yesterday and i happened upon a copy of
this month's 99xpress -- a publication put out by a local
radio station here in atlanta (okay, redundant, but you get the point!)

there's a short but pretty darn cool interview with amy in it and
a picture of her that looks like it was taken from the curve
photo session because she's wearing that red leather jacket and
black *mesh* shirt underneath.
(and for some odd reason she's kinda greeeeen! um, what??)

the issue's content is not yet posted on the 99x website, but i'll
keep checking back and let you guys know when it is.

later!
cathy, who's half-considering just typing it out and posting it herself!
and wishing she had a yummy warm fluffy flying biscuit to
eat for breakfast with butter and huuuunnaaaayyyy! :)

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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 09:09:45 -0800
reply-to:     deb <scootergirl@rocketmail.com>
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subject:      re: a new ig video?, "uptown lounge"
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i'm sure this is just the "watershed" dvd release, which was scheduled
for that date.  it can be ordered at http://www.cdnow.com.

i think the "live at the uptown lounge" video can be purchased there
too, but if not, there's a link to it (at wolfe video) on my ig index.
"uptown lounge" is still readily available, please don't pirate it!
==

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       (indigo@mindspring.com on the road!)


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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 09:12:31 -0800
reply-to:     deb <scootergirl@rocketmail.com>
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---fauna88@aol.com wrote:
>
> hey y'all -
> here is the second part to amy's interview in curve, copied directly
from
> their site on aol.  i'm not sure, however, if it is the exact
version from the
> actual magazine. probably, though.

it's only an excerpt, as indicated at the end of the article:

> what else can we find out about amy?  the future of the lilith fair,
pushing
> the musical envelope, breaking down cultural barriers, and
influential people
> in amy's life.  an amazing woman, amy ray has much to teach us all.
get the
> whole story in curve's march issue at a bookstore near you.

curve's done a great job with this interview, i hope that whoever can
buy it will.  when its out, i'll repost info on how to contact curve
to order a copy if you can't find it in your area.
==

deb \\ scootergirl@rocketmail.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo
       (indigo@mindspring.com on the road!)


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subject:      ig holiday

when i flew back to my hometown of denver for xmas,
i thought i was not going to experience any ig for a while.
here's what happened:

i took a shuttle bus at the denver airport to the rental car
area when i arrived and on the bus, i heard melissa singing
"santa claus is coming to town," then i started to hear
"get out the map," which i realized is a perfect travel song.

i took curve magazine with ig on the cover on the plane
with me and then when i began talking to my brother, who
is no ig fan, if ig was popular in colorado and i showed him
the cover of curve.  he said the station he listens to, kbco
in boulder played them all the time and he gave me a cd
they put out that had an acoustic version of "shame on you"
recorded at kbco.

i guess if you look for them, ig can turn up
anywhere!!

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hey y'all....

i'm gonna be off the list for a while.  those who i know well, mail me
privately if you need to!

too much tension for the official lb to take...

;)
peace-
karrie

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  i am interested in dub copies of michelle malone cds to tapes. anyone
have any of hers let me know and i will send you a blank tape and return
postage for it. missy

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i just finished reading "backstage pass" by laura post and took offense to a
quote by margie adam.

"there are many newcomers to the women's music network, but most of the
performers don't relate to women's music and don't use the term. i observe that
they use the network but simultaneously ridicule it. other musicians refuse to
acknowledge their roots of support in the network once they experience success
overground. i am disgusted by this behavior. i'm thinking in particular here of
tracy chapman, the indigo girls and melissa etheridge."

i don't know much about the other two, in regards to their acknowledgements, but
ig have  mentioned joni mitchell and others numerous times. just because they
don't choose to be defined exclusively as "women's music" doesn't mean they
don't appreciate where it came from.

opinions?

resa

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i'm kinda new to the list and i was just wondering... if anyone has any
pictures of the girls that they'd perhaps let me have, i'd love that. i've
never been to any of their concerts or anything, so... well, thanks for your
time.
-alyssa

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when twink wrote:

>for all those who voted "love will come to you"... anyone remember
>hearing amy (on a boot) say something along the lines of how she was
>trying to convince emily to title it something different... like
>"walking thru the mud on a rainy day"?

it reminded me of a thread i'd previously thought of proposing...what ig
songs could have a different title (not that i would want to change any of
them!)?  i remember calling "three hits" "poetry in motion" in my head
before i realized what the title actually was.  anyone else?

cheryl in wisconsin
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don't know if anyone else has tried to get this video clip of ellen singing
with the girls...but i can't.  downloaded the plug-in and everything, but when
i get to the page there's just an empty box with nothing to click on.  just
wondering if anyone else is having a problem with it, or.... is it just me?!?

have an ig sunday
~flora

http://cnn.com/showbiz/9801/07/ellen.lilith.fair/video.html

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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 20:33:45 +0000
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on sun, 8 feb 1998, resa m wrote:

> i just finished reading "backstage pass" by laura post and took offense to a
> quote by margie adam.
>
> "there are many newcomers to the women's music network, but most of the
> performers don't relate to women's music and don't use the term. i observe that
> they use the network but simultaneously ridicule it. other musicians refuse to
> acknowledge their roots of support in the network once they experience success
> overground. i am disgusted by this behavior. i'm thinking in particular here of
> tracy chapman, the indigo girls and melissa etheridge."
>
> i don't know much about the other two, in regards to their acknowledgements, but
> ig have  mentioned joni mitchell and others numerous times. just because they
> don't choose to be defined exclusively as "women's music" doesn't mean they
> don't appreciate where it came from.

if anything, margie adam's got it the wrong way round.   ig resolutely
avoided having anything to do with the women's music movement on their way
up - they wouldn't exclude men from gigs and they refused to play
festivals like michigan, because they wanted to build up a wider fan base
than just the people involved in that scene - they didn't want to be
pigeonholed.   there's an article on the lifeblood archive which makes
just this kind of reference:

"tell me, how would you pigeonhole the indigo girls?   folkies?   womyn's
music?   relaxation for the birkenstocks and the pc crowd after a day of
bringing down the system?"
        (chris townend, "indigo girls:  why amy and emily are finally
         in the pink", b side, dec 94/jan 95)

there is, of course, another association which amy and emily might have
wanted to steer clear of - the bad lyric writing which was typical of some
of those artists.   margie adam's songwriting is said to be superior to
most of them, but i've got a recording of cris williamson ("circle of
friends", olivia, 1990) which contains 8 of the 10 songs from "the changer
and the changed", which is supposedly the classic of the genre.   the
songs are just so mediocre - "sweet woman" and "waterfall", two of the
best known, follow more or less the same formula - 8 or 10 lines of
schmaltz followed by a chorus repeated ad nauseam.   (on the latter song,
the schmaltz doesn't even seem to be related to the chorus!)   williamson
is, however, a good pianist and has a lovely voice, though i don't know if
she played the piano on "the changer".

but both the indigo girls have actively supported women's music in the
past couple of years - for instance, performing with ferron alongside
several other musicians associated with the genre (vicki randle, barbara
higbie).   they have since changed tack on michigan, and one of emily's
favourite songs is said to be a vicki randle song which cris williamson
covered (though not on "the changer").   looks like margie adam needs to
get her facts straight before she starts shooting off.

mat

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date:         mon, 9 feb 1998 07:43:32 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

as most of you have probably noticed, the list was down for
almost 24 hours yesterday, but all seems to be working fine
again now.

just a reminder - if you think the list is down, there's no
need to post the list saying "is the list down?" - if it *is*
down, your message won't be distributed until the list comes
back up again anyway.  also, there's no need to re-send list
mail sent during this period - anything received while the
server is down is just queued until the server comes back up
again, then processed then.

the best thing to do in this case is just to hang tight.  you
can mail someone from the list privately (eg me at
sherlyn@fl.net.au or anybody else you know) and ask if they've
been getting list mail as well.  if they have, then the
problem is probably with your isp.  if they haven't, then the
list server is probably down, in which case there's nothing to
do but wait.

okey-doke.  i think that's all... happy happy, :)
sherlyn, who's listening to fleetwood mac (see what you did
penelope?? :)

ps - stay tuned - the news-only list will be active by the end
of the week i think... watch for the announcement here...
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 15:51:31 -0500
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>also, remember this concert was immediately after the dec 2 fiasco in
>louisville so they probably didn't know what to expect.

*** i've had several people e-mail me asking what i meant by "fiasco" ***

when the girls were at the palace for the dec 2 louisville show they
had such a rowdy crowd.  people weren't listening to them play, amy
even had to come out during one of emily's solo's and ask if they
could listen please.  she played it off pretty well during the
concert but in a later radio interview said that the crowd was very
rowdy.  the general tone after that concert was "we owe apologies
to the girls" by die-hard ig fans and a generally complacent
attitude by the rest of the crowd.

also there were a few people there who referred to it as "the
"lou-uhh-ville" show because no-one would listen, everyone was
being annoying or stirring things up.  it should be noted the
palace is a very very beautiful theatre but right next door is
a bar that serves beer to strong mixed drinks.  i think that
alcohol and concert going experiences don't generally mix.

i had a similarly bad experience going to see fiona apple in
november.  people would shout horrible things both at other people
in the audience and at fiona, some people would stand up (even
though they were the only ones doing so, and even after others
asked them to sit down) just out of spite.  then there would be
screaming matches.  during the fiona concert they had a setlist
they were trying to keep to and everyone was *screaming* "criminal!!
criminal!!!" so loud that it was drowning out what fiona was trying
to say between songs.  finally she stomped her foot and said "ok!"
and then they played criminal to try to appease the extremel group
of rowdy people.

all in all i've never had a such a bad concert experience as the one
i had at the palace.  others felt the same way during the ig concert.

there are several back digests that contain info about the dec 2 show
if anyone would like them.  i'll e-mail... just let me know.

talk to you!  :)

~~~~~          _o_              --dead man's hill--
|o|  all     _/ | \_  "i remember cats on fire / gasoline a    |o|
|o| things      |      burning spiral / standing underneath    |o|
|o| indigo     / \     the night / fighting back with all my   |o|
|o| - rick   _/   \_   might / empty cans and charred remains/ |o|
|o|                    find them in the heat of day / on the   |o|
|o|                    top of deadman's hill / this is what i  |o|
|o|                    know of shame forever...." - amy ray    |o|

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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 13:08:37 -0800
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>don't know if anyone else has tried to get this video clip of ellen singing
>with the girls...but i can't.  downloaded the plug-in and everything, but when
>i get to the page there's just an empty box with nothing to click on.  just
>wondering if anyone else is having a problem with it, or.... is it just me?!?>

flora,

did you install the plug-in after you downloaded it? some plug-ins self-install
but this one requires you to exit all other programs and run install, then when
you access the site again, the clip should be visible. i only have a 33.6 modem
and the clip quality left a lot to be desired. the audio was fine, but the video
was really blocky and unfocused.

resa

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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 13:11:06 -0800
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there's also some stuff in the readme regarding aol so you might want to browse
that.

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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 15:16:14 -0600
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i am so sorry.  maybe nobody cares anymore, but i tried really hard to say
this a couple of days ago and it didn't send.

okay, i gotta say something.  when i was going through that teenage angst
phase of my life, i fancied myself a huge violent femmes (well, and tmbg)
fan.  i loved all the femmes songs, except blister in the sun.  i hate
being at parties or concerts or whatever and watching these stupid little
girls and boys jump up and clap with a song that has no clapping in it!  it
pisses me off to watch these people freak out over this one song.
closer to fine is one of my least favorite ig songs.  and it is definetely
my least favorite song to see live.  i agree with whoever says that ctf
should be retired.  and cudos to brian for mentioning what they look like
while they perform it as of late.
i love the irony in the whole blister in the sun/closer to fine situation
(you know, that they actually closed a show with something other than ctf).
but i must say that it will be a cold day in hell before i enjoy watching
the girls play either of these songs live.
whatever any of that means to you...

jessica

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it sounds like margie adam is holding the major-label
success of the artists against them.  why should there even be a category
called "women's music" anyway?  i would think that women's music is music
made by women.  by those terms, that category it way too broad.  is she
saying that women who are part of the "women's music network" should stay
humble and not branch out into the music scene as a whole?  ig have
consistently paid respect to all their inspirations--both male and
female, and they have acknowleged the strong support they get from women.
they are musicians, and they have many
devoted women fans.  and yes, *maybe* they owe much of their success to
this "network" of female fans, but does that mean that they should be
clumped in a category
where they should quietly remain? maybe i'm misunderstanding that
article and taking it out of context, but if not, ms. adam needs to
get out of her world of stereotypes and see these talented musicians for
the artists that they are rather than just someone who is capitalizing on
a particular "network"
ok, i'll shut up now.
thanks,
leslie

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sorry for sendng the last message to the list. i worded it wrong. all i
wanted to know was how could i purchase her cds, i like cds better. sorry
agains so please no more flares. i will watch my wording from now on. i
also can not copy the video of great woods, because i do not have 2 vcrs,
no place around here does it and i do not know anybody that has to vcrs.
sorry if it sounded like i was offering to ,missy

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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 16:38:35 est
reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      hiway 5 and my thumb stickin out  and vinyl (igc)

--- jan "phoenix queen" stevens wrote:
jonas & ezekial (reminds me of my little susie b marine, must be the hwy 5
referrence or something...)
--- end of quote ---

awww cute, thanks jan jan! now that i moved, i live nowhere near hiway5, but it
still gives me chills when amy croons "new hampshire, vermont, bordered
by...college farms...etc"....just to know she was once there and commented on
the landscape :)

in other news, remember when i mailed a few weeks back about looking for sots
on vinyl? well, thanks to miz joan ferguson, i fouhnd a site with the very
selfsame album, and bunches of other stuff! the url is

http://www.gemm.com/

check it out if yer lookin for stuff. its wayyyy coolio.

sus
sundays are for sleeping in, why the hell am i at work?

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>it sounds like margie adam is holding the major-label
>success of the artists against them.

i have to agree. success isn't synonymous with sell-out!  the remainder of the
article
portrays her as a bigtime feminist. here's a bit more...

she continues to say "i am unapologetically passionate about the history from
which i come." and "what is operating here is persistent misogyny and
internalized homophobia. women and lesbians, in particular, still have
difficulty honoring our own accomplishments.  if we are not celebrating our own
history, no one else will. it is up to those of us in women's music to pass the
history on to the women who are coming up and who carry those misconceptions."

resa

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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 22:10:02 +0000
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on sun, 8 feb 1998, leslie ann holeman wrote:

> it sounds like margie adam is holding the major-label
> success of the artists against them.  why should there even be a category
> called "women's music" anyway?  i would think that women's music is music
> made by women.

the term was coined in the mid-1970's to refer to music that was made by
and for women, and in a kind of 'women's space' where the artists had
access to sympathetic female producers and musicians.   it's true that
before they came along, female singer-songwriters tended to have been
working within a very male culture - hardly any of the musicians sandy
denny, carole king and joni mitchell worked with were women.   of course,
'women's music' at that time almost invariably meant 'lesbian music',
which strikes me as being fundamentally dishonest.

mat

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it sounds to me like this adams woman needs a serious grip on reality.  just
because someone who is a lesbian happens to become famous/rich/successful,
doesn't mean she has "forgotten her roots" or is "ridiculing the womyn's
music" system.  this is obviously one chick who doesn't have her head on
striaght (pardon the pun.)

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yes, ig's have often paid tribute to joni mitchell as one of their
influences. however, joni mitchell has never been associated with the
"women's music" movement. so the fact that they've mentioned mitchell
doesn't mean that they are paying tribute to the work that those in the
women's music movement have done over the years, as somebody implied it
does. as far as i know, joni never even openly identified as a feminist,
much less associated herself with women's music.

what gets me is when people put down women's music (cris williamson, meg
christian, holly near, margie adam, deidre mccalla, jamie anderson, toshi
reagon, alix dobkin, etc. etc) -- when these women were unapologetically
standing on stage and singing about being lesbians *years* ago, when the
very mention of being a woman who loves a woman lost you the opportunity
to reach a wider audience -- and yet the same people hear the line "hate
me 'cause i'm different, hate me 'cause i'm gay" and whoop and holler
because oh my god somebody actually said "gay" on stage.

especially for those of you who are younger -- you might not have any idea
what kind of courage and chutzpah it took, 20-25 years ago, for somebody
to put out a record that spoke openly about being a lesbian. hell, we all
go nuts about how radical amy is to stand there on stage and sing "the
beautiful ladies walk right by, i never know what to say" -- and we all
know that there are still people who freak when they find out about amy &
emily being lesbians, some who won't even listen to their music because of
it. you can't imagine how much harder it was when margie adam was first
recording, if you weren't there. and i certainly sympathize with her, and
with other "women's music" artists who put their careers as musicians --
their livelihoods, and even their *lives* -- on the line to speak their
truths, and as a result, it's a little safer today to talk and sing about
being gay... and yet it's the singers who slip a quick little reference
about being gay into one or two songs that get worshipped as being
"lesbian goddesses". yeah, i understand margie's frustration.

if you don't like her music, or cris williamson's, or whoever, that's
cool. it's very much based in the 1970's singer-songwriter tradition, much
like early jackson browne, carole king, etc. and that is not everyone's
cup of tea. some of it may seem like cliche now, but try to remember how
radical it was at the time to even be a woman and sing a song called
"sweet woman." hell, "we shall overcome" is not exactly great poetry
either, but that doesn't make it any less of a great song, for its
purpose.

i came out in the early 80's. my life would have been very different
without the women's music movement. when i heard margie adam and cris
williamson and holly near sing about loving women, making it sound like a
healthy, beautiful thing instead of some wicked little secret, well, it
affected me very deeply. thank god/dess. i'm so happy that now a young
woman can hear amy or ani on the radio so easily and never have to
question whether anyone else has felt the way she feels. i'm glad the
world has changed. but i think it's vitally important not to forget the
people who, over the years, have helped to change it.

enough ranting, i promise. :-)

-anne, who is alive today partly because of music.


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actually, this does have some igc.  anne and i are trying to make the liners
for the seattle show (details will be posted in the next week) and we need
some help with danielle howle's setlist.  we've figured out titles to all
but three of her songs.

1. this particular tune has "if you want me, come back" in the chorus.
2. this one starts with "hey, you" and has "go on and take the mad out, go
on and take the sad out, go on with your..." in the chorus
3. the third has "so when you get through with me won't you please tell me
to go..."

ohh! lots to go on ;)

please reply via private mail.

thanks,
anne and bon


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>it reminded me of a thread i'd previously thought of proposing...what ig
>songs could have a different title (not that i would want to change any of
>them!)?  i remember calling "three hits" "poetry in motion" in my head
>before i realized what the title actually was.  anyone else?

i always kinda thought "center stage" was "the joker and the king"
or "full circle round." seems i can never remember the name of that
one, like i hear people talk about "center stage" and i'm convinced
that it's a new one i've never heard before.

i dunno, just a little nuts i guess!
cathy

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alright so it's not really igc, but it'll be short.  i wanted to make a plea on
behalf of all of those of us who make boot offers to the list or to anyone.  if
you're sending blanks...do not forget to put an e-mail address in your note.
okay.  i'm done.

and now that i have that out of the way: maida from north carolina...can you
please contact me as soon as possible?  thanks...

marivel

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     time has no meaning
     now we're off to god knows where..."

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not to pick a bone, but i disagree here...i got flamed royally for my
opinions about a certain goddess thread, both privately and on the list. i
wish i'd saved some of the really mean hate mail i got to repost to you
here, but i erased it.  he might or might not have been condescending, but
he shouldn't be criticized for his opinion...
   peace,
              sharoane

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> from: anne c. hill <ahill7o9@mwcgw.mwc.edu>
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> subject: my response to all!!!!! -reply
> date: sunday, february 08, 1998 1:22 pm
>
> hi everyone-
> with all due respect, i think the people who flamed you were offended
> by your "condescending" attitude more than your opinions.  it's rare
> that people on this list try to censor other people's opinions, at
> least in my experience.  and speaking of experience, just because
> some people have seen more concerts than others, that doesn't entitle
> them to treat less fortunate people as if they didn't know what they
> were talking about.  whether you've seen zero concerts or 1000, no
> one is more of an "expert" at seeing concerts than anyone else.  i
> know that i should send this via personal mail, but i'm a terrible
> person who likes to hear other people's views.  sorry.  :)
> -anne
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hey folks,

>it reminded me of a thread i'd previously thought of proposing...what ig
>songs could have a different title (not that i would want to change any of
>them!)?  i remember calling "three hits" "poetry in motion" in my head
>before i realized what the title actually was.  anyone else?

the first few times i heard "galileo" on the radio (1992),
before the release of rop i was convinced it was called
"king of night vision"...

:)
sherlyn, who's having real trouble with the thought processes
today...
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"i'll breathe and grieve and struggle and strive and love and love and
love, and if i'm lucky, once - just once - the dream will drop to the
floor and shatter in shards of silence.  but i will see, i will see,
in the pattern of the pieces i will see... something.  this will,
this will, this will happen..."                - peter mulvey

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for the longest time my friend thought least complicated was "clean-slated"
:)

anna

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> i don't know much about the other two, in regards to their
acknowledgements, but
> ig have  mentioned joni mitchell and others numerous times. just because
they
> don't choose to be defined exclusively as "women's music" doesn't mean
they
> don't appreciate where it came from.
>
> opinions?
>
> resa
>
well, i know the type of person who writes those comments and they want all
women performers who happen to have a strong female fan base to claim to be
women's music...however, i don't think that either ig or melissa started
out playing women's fests or anything like that, though melissa played in
lesbian bars out in ca.  my point is that ig especially just wanted to play
music, not be labelled and defined by any particular group or whatever. i
mean, the fact that they have a large female (lesbian) fan base doesn't
mean that they were targetting that base.
     to put it another way...
     some artists try to aim their music at a particular audience, but ig
never did that.  instead they adopted the philosophy that if they played
the music they had inside, they'd find their audience...sort of "play it
and they will come"...
so yeah, the author of the quote was way off base by pointing fingers at
ig...
peace,
      sharoane

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made an ig tape for my mom a while ago (who, by the way, is really into them
now!) and she kept asking me, didn't i like the "cinnamon floss" song?
finally i made her attempt to sing it for me - she hummed a little and sang
"cinnamon floss" - i eventually realized that the song was joking, and she was
getting a little confused on the "sentiments given, sentiments lost" (y'know,
cinnamon floss!)...

until you know all of the girls' song word for word, some of their lyrics
(like *anyone's* lyrics) can come out sounding a little different than they
really are!  now, i'm trying to think of where i screwed up in the singing-
along dept. when i first heard them - can anyone else relate?

~flora

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i can see how "women's music" once had a very strong and powerful
purpose, but nowadays i don't think it's beneficial to any female
musician (or should i say *lesbian* musician--that seems to be
what it boils down to) to be placed in such a narrow category.  part of
freedom is to be accepted as a lesbian as a normal part of society--not
just within some little category.
with all due respect, i don't think that amy and emily are worshipped
just because they can say "gay" on stage.  true, they are very inspiring
because of what they represent, and this gives them a strong
following, but it's not the only thing that they owe their success to.

i'm *definitely* not trying to downplay the original women's music
movement.  maybe indigo girls, melissa etheridge and tracy chapman
wouldn't have had the same opportunities without it but maybe we can move
on from that now.  that might be too idealistic--i don't know.
leslie

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you wrote:

> "play it and they will come"...

you hit it right on the head there!  we've often heard ig say that hope
is the message at the heart of their music.  i'd be willing to bet that
each of us has felt that... from different songs... at different points
in our lives... when we are struggling thru something and have grasped
at the hope that is the life & breath of their music?  (in fact i have
read some of your stories relating how ig have affected you in your
lives right here on the list!)

something reaches inside me when i hear them sing... reaches right into
my heart... and i don't think this condition would just be related to my
sexual orientation or anyone else's!

i'm not looking to start some heavy discussion here... just felt that
"if you play it... they will come" really is how they have approached
their career.  and, given that they've received so much more this year
than i felt they had in the past, i'd say it's working!

later,
twink!


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hey... i'm gonna keep this short & sweet...

stumbled across a new artist... i have already told a few of you about
her... but thought the rest of you might like to go see/hear her!
her name is cory sipper and she's great!  her site has real audio and
also some video (which i recommend more for better sound quality).
anyway, go check it out!
http://www.buzzworm.com/corysipper/


enjoy,
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flora wrote:
>until you know all of the girls' song word for word, some of their
>lyrics (like *anyone's* lyrics) can come out sounding a little
>different than they really are!  now, i'm trying to think of where i
>screwed up in the singing-along dept. when i first heard
>them - can anyone else relate?

when i first heard lwcty, i always thought the words to that one line
were, "if i've offered up a crystal bottle of blue" (intstead of "crystal
ball to look through")!! then after a few times, i thought, "wait a
minute, that doesn't make any sense. . ." and checked the lyrics. one of
my best friends (and fellow ig fan herslef) still teases me about that.
:o)

all things indigo,
kristina :o)

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twink wrote:
>you hit it right on the head there!  we've often heard ig say that
>hope is the message at the heart of their music.  i'd be willing
>to bet that each of us has felt that... from different songs... at
>different points in our lives...

>something reaches inside me when i hear them sing... reaches right
>into my heart...

took the words right out of my mouth, twink! that's exactly the way i
feel about it. that's what drew me into their music, and that's what
makes it impossible for me not to listen to it. ever since i've become a
fan (which was not too long ago, actually), the girls' music has been a
therapy for me in any upsetting situation. i feel like they take some of
my feelings that i can't explain and put them into words and music for
me. it's such a powerful thing.

all things indigo,
kristina :o)

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thanks to everyone who offered me help with figuring out how to view the 2
minute clip of ellen singing with a and e.
(http://cnn.com/showbiz/9801/07/ellen.lilith.fair/video.html)
some of you still may be trying to figure it out - what *i* had to do was
download the plugin, then go into the directory where i saved the plugin and
install it... then, you have to restart your computer and then go back to the
page, where it should magically appear. . . i don't know why i didn't figure
this out before - but i hope it helps some of you!
by the way, it may not even be worth your time... the sound's okay, but the
graphics are pretty blurry.  and we don't learn anything profound (which of
course is fine, but if you were hoping for something awe-some...you get the
point)

puppy licks
~flora

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date:         sun, 8 feb 1998 20:26:23 -0600
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hey everyone!

        could someone please tell me where i can find a list of any new
concert dates.

thanks,

cindy

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in a message dated 98-02-08 19:15:21 est, fauna88@aol.com writes:

<< now, i'm trying to think of where i screwed up in the singing-
along dept. when i first heard them - can anyone else relate?
  >>

i can.  when i first heard get out the map, i could swear that emily was
singing "the same sun that warms your heart will suck that gutter dry."  on
some boots i have, i could still swear that's what she's saying.  there were
some others... and they were funny, too, but i can't remember them at the
moment.  oh, well - if they come back, i'll post :o)

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
    -  president, grlchasr26 fan club
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as they had had a few haycorns they became quiet and refined.
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i always wanted mystery to be titled- i could go crazy on a night like
tonight.
i remember during their so tour there were always signs in the audience that
had this quote.

i thought reunion was pretty pretenders. when i see the title reunion i always
think it's a song i haven't heard yet.

i thought 123 was pick up sticks- i don't know why. nis is one that i bought
and played a million times before i ever read the jacket. most of the other
titles on there are super long and someone could probably rename all of
them...

i don't wanna know should be i don't care anymore.

...but i guess no one can dispute the title chickenman....

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hi everyone,

hmmm, my contribution to the lyrics thread... in reunion i always
thought the line was "faith is one thing that is hard to believe in", and
then one day i realised it was "hard to deliver", right?  but i like what
i heard better, bit more cynical perhaps but a clever observation.

now the rambling bits.  firstly, a request for the list of funny signs
and so forth from the other day - could someone re-send it to me? thanks.

i was listening to chickenman the other day (1200c version) and it
occurred to me how cool it would be to hear an instrumental version of it.
i really just noticed the music that time for some reason;  have the girls
ever done instrumental versions of any songs in concert?  bet there's some
other songs out there that would come out really well.

think that's it. anyone going to the perth concert?

  david

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someone posted about this group to the list can you tell me momre about
them in thinking of getting their cd as  it says the are acoustic can
anyone tell me more about them compare them to the girls or anyone else is
the cd  somewhere more familier worth getting

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on sun, 8 feb 1998 ndygotiggr@aol.com wrote:
> i can.  when i first heard get out the map, i could swear that emily was
> singing "the same sun that warms your heart will suck that gutter dry."  on
> some boots i have, i could still swear that's what she's saying.  there were
> some others... and they were funny, too, but i can't remember them at the
> moment.  oh, well - if they come back, i'll post :o)
kokay  now u got me wondering what is the line there cause im ashamed to
admit i thougt it was that to

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> hands are definitely like the sexiest part of any lesbian esp. butches.
don't you just love to watch her bend those strings in the "big woods" concert video?  beautiful hands, and so strong!!!!  yeeeeeooooowww!
toye

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if this screensaver that everyone is talking about is the "touch me fall" one on sony, i have had it for a long time.  i bought it right off the shelf at best buy!
toye

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hey kind friends!

        i hope my last post re: amy's b-day project didn't squelch all
motivation on the project (that's a pretty egotistical thang to think, huh?)
so how come i haven't seen a single post on it since that time?
        first, tigger brought up the idea, then elizabeth from denver and i
believe a couple others too offered to run the project...so who's gonna do it?
        i'd offer, but i had so much fun the last time (along with greta and
mandi), the pleasure should be shared :)
amy's birthday is about 2 months from today, so it *is* time to get going
pretty soon.
        let's just get co-ordinated before we go off half-cocked :o
so...i repeat myself...whose in charge of the project????

        btw i still support a donation to the zapatista movement in chiapas,
mexico...
anyone else ;)

luv y'all!
tony

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when i first heard gotm, i didn't understand the part where amy sings, "i must say around some corner i can sense a resting place..."  it sounded like she was saying, "i must lay around in a corner where i can censor everything!"  after listening to it a couple times and deciding that made absolutely no sense, i went and read the lyrics.  oh, now that makes more sense!!!
toye

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in a message dated 98-02-08 14:40:55 est, resa@ipeg.com writes:

<< i don't know much about the other two, in regards to their
acknowledgements, but
ig have  mentioned joni mitchell and others numerous times. just because they
don't choose to be defined exclusively as "women's music" doesn't mean they
don't appreciate where it came from. >>

hey everyone!!

i totally agree!!!!  whenever the girls cover a song, they always acknowledge
the artists who originally did it...in addition, a&e frequently talk  about
the respect they have for acts such as joni mitchell,neil young,grateful dead,
and others.

just thought i'd share.


brian

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david allingham was kind enough to put up the enhanced file i
created up on his web page.  you can grab it here:

http://maths.uwa.edu.au/~davida/ig/

        * note:  the file is about 590k and is in .mp3 format.
                 if you need an mp3 player for win 95 e-mail me.

note this was a one-step enhancement.  a simple eq re-arrangement.
i did not apply noise reduction or any other stuff to it.  you'll
note the eq adjustments compensate for the mic limitations.  i
think you'll see a difference.  take care and enjoy!

~~~~~          _o_
|o|  all     _/ | \_                 --in or out--               |o|
|o| things      |     "i guess there's somethin' wrong with me / |o|
|o| indigo     / \     guess i don't fit in / no-one wants to    |o|
|o| - rick   _/   \_   touch it / no-one knows where to begin /  |o|
|o| (and ani)          i just want / more than one membership to |o|
|o|===righteous babe=  more than one club / 'cause i owe my life |o|
|o| 1-800-on-her-own | to the people that i love"- ani difranco  |o|

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here's my entry into the listening gaff dept.:

i was on a date shortly after 1200 curfews came out.  the girl and i got to
talking about music, and i mention how the new indigo girls album has this one
really old song on it.  she, having lived in atlanta for a while and listened
to the girls before they got big, seems interested and asks which one.  and i
say something to the effect of, ' well, i don't know the name, but it has this
line "growing up reeks...".'  which might be true, but weeks later, i realized
they were actually singing "free".  oops.

peace,
shelley

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> from: melissa singhaus <msinghaus@msmisp.com>
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> subject: book talk
> date: monday, february 09, 1998 1:00 am
>
>    i know this isn't a usual post, but one i thought should be discused.
i
> am not a christain, but a lady from work sent this book home with mom and
> said i might enjoy reading it. i was not sure if i should pick it up
> considering she was a christain. well i took the chance anyways and i m
> areading it now. it is not the normal christain books. this one sends
> chills up my spine.
>
> the end of the age by pat robertson talks about the end of time as we
know
> it. it is based on the book called revalations. it is the book in the
bible
> that says what is predicted to happen before jessus is said to come back.

>
> it made me stop and think what the end of time is suppose to be like. i
> have come to several conclusions and expanations for this. i was
wondering
> if anyone of the list has ever thought about the end of time and what is
> suppose to happen. if yes share with me your thoughts. if anyone is
> interested in this topic i will add my views on it next time. missy
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i have a boot the the 1991 or 1992 (not sure about the year) newport folk
fest.  i'd like to trade copies of it for other boots.  please e-mail me
privately if your are interested. here is the set list:  world falls;
pushing the needle too far; crazy game; welcome me; hammer and a nail;
love's recovery; land of canaan; summertime; joking; ghost; kid fears;
prince of darkness; watershed; uncle john's band.

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hey y'all

regarding my post entitled:  dissing our girls....please disregard what i
wrote because i quickly read the post and responded without thinking....i re-
read what i wrote and realized it absolutely no sense!!!!!!

sorry!!!

brian

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pardon me, folks - i don't want to rehash all of this, but i beg to
differ with what rick and others have deemed the "dec. 2 louisville
fiasco."  number one:  the person who originally referred to the show
as the lou-uh-vul show was *me*.  that is because i am from kentucky and
that is how i grew up prouncing louisville.  there are something like
5 different ways to pronounce that name, btw.  anyhoo, apparently this
was lost on anyone not from kentucky, ohio or tennessee.  perhaps i should
have explained that in my review of the show.  so, that is why it
was dubbed the "lou-uh-vul" show, not because it was loud.  number two:
the vast majority of the crowd was very loving, respectful and way into it.
there was a group of rowdy, disrespectful people near the front and
they were the ones who were causing the trouble, and the ones who amy
referred to when she commented about there being a private party up front.
amy said in a later interview that some of the people up front were too loud
and rowdy.  however, amy had a huge smile on her face for almost the
entire show, and she appeared genuinely happy, into it, moved that
everyone was singing every word, and seemed to feed off of the crowd's
enthusiasm and love.  i was there - in the sixth row.  i personally
did not hear/see any rowdy people.  i think they were over toward emily's
side or somewhere between amy and emily.  everyone within 15 or so rows
around me acted like anyone else at any other concert i've been too.
several times i looked around the theatre, up in the balcony, and most
everyone was either singing along in their seats or standing up and
singing along and paying attention.  except for some bad apples who were
unfortunately up front (and probably didn't even deserve to be in the
theatre), the crowd was very loving and enthusiastic.  i enjoyed the show,
and i'm sick of hearing how this was such a shitty concert.  just my $0.02...

peace,

joan :-d

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ok now, i feel *really* stupid...until now, i have thought it was that.
i never bothered too look at the lyric sheet i suppose.
oh well...
when i first heard get out the map, i could swear that emily was
>singing "the same sun that warms your heart will suck that gutter dry."

there is actually a book i've seen that has a bunch of songs & their
possible misquotations...perty funny.

the funniest i've heard however is not in that book or ig
related...jilly certo & her sister used to fight over the lyrics to that
80's song that goes "my love opened the door...to your heart"
well, her sister thought it was "my dog opened the door...to your
house."  jill thought it was "my love opened the door...to your house"
jill's sister insisted that a dog can open a door easier than love.
anyway...sorry for this waste o bw.
carool


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hello all out there in indigo land,

the delighful sherlyn and i.....amongst others... will be
decending on melbourne for the two ig shows which are
happening a delectable 13 days from now. we would love to
see as many of your bright and glorious faces as possible,
the idea being a dinner, or beverage of your choice before
the show/s at a venue hopefully not too far from the place
we are seeing the atlanta gals perform.

if anyone would like to join in, please let me know.  any
suggestions for funky restaurants/cafes will be greatly
appreciated as i for one have no idea about melbourne......

absolutely looking forward to it!!

penelope


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in a message dated 98-02-08 21:50:14 est, you write:

<< i can.  when i first heard get out the map, i could swear that emily was
singing "the same sun that warms your heart will suck that gutter dry."  on
some boots i have, i could still swear that's what she's saying. >>

well shut my mouth and call me fuzzy!  right up until the second that i read
tig's post that is exactly what i thought she was singing.  and i agree that
on most of the early boots i have, she is singing that. never made much sense
to me, but ...

i also always sang, "he created my performance" instead of "graded" and "gotta
tend the earth if you want to grow' instead of "if you want a rose."
obviously, emily's lyrics are much better than mine :-)

peace,

pam

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on sun, 8 feb 1998, leslie ann holeman wrote:

> i'm *definitely* not trying to downplay the original women's music
> movement.  maybe indigo girls, melissa etheridge and tracy chapman
> wouldn't have had the same opportunities without it but maybe we can move
> on from that now.  that might be too idealistic--i don't know.

respectfully, we can move on from that when the day comes that
we dont have to fight for gay rights as equal rights, when gay
bashing truly is punished as a crime, when gays can marry, etc
etc.....sadly, we are not yet at the day when we can truly
move on from what womens music represented.

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on sun, 8 feb 1998, matthew j smith wrote:

> the term was coined in the mid-1970's to refer to music that was made by
> and for women, and in a kind of 'women's space' where the artists had
> access to sympathetic female producers and musicians.   it's true that
> before they came along, female singer-songwriters tended to have been
> working within a very male culture - hardly any of the musicians sandy
> denny, carole king and joni mitchell worked with were women.   of course,
> 'women's music' at that time almost invariably meant 'lesbian music',
> which strikes me as being fundamentally dishonest.

the music industry is still *very* much a male culture.  that hasnt
changed.  a lot more women are finding their way through
it but make no mistake that the music industry is very much a boys club.
how else can one explain groups like spice girls and fem2 fem?

as far as the fundamental dishonesty of womens music being lesbina
music, i addressed this in my otehr post, but again, you wouldnt
hav ebeen able to find a lesbian music section at stores which
might carry womens music.  you do what you can to get the music
out there.


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picking nits, here...

> if anything, margie adam's got it the wrong way round.   ig resolutely
> avoided having anything to do with the women's music movement on their way
> up - they wouldn't exclude men from gigs and they refused to play
> festivals like michigan, because they wanted to build up a wider fan base
> than just the people involved in that scene - they didn't want to be

hte language here is strong.  we know they didnt play these festivals,
yes, but we dont know if they avoided them altogether.  there
used to be, at least, a womens music festival called rhythmfest
in northern ga.  melissa etheridge played it before she was out
(but after she started getting major label acclaim).  it
is *entirely* possible that amy and/or emily had attended such
events.  there is something vewry powerful about being in a women
only space where you are embraced, acknowledged and celebrated for
being lesbian.  jsut because ig didnt play the fests doesnt mean
they didnt take part in similar events on their own.  let's be
careful about how resolutely we announce these things.

> there is, of course, another association which amy and emily might have
> wanted to steer clear of - the bad lyric writing which was typical of some
> of those artists.   margie adam's songwriting is said to be superior to
> most of them, but i've got a recording of cris williamson ("circle of
> friends", olivia, 1990) which contains 8 of the 10 songs from "the changer
> and the changed", which is supposedly the classic of the genre.   the
> songs are just so mediocre - "sweet woman" and "waterfall", two of the
> best known, follow more or less the same formula - 8 or 10 lines of
> schmaltz followed by a chorus repeated ad nauseam.   (on the latter song,
> the schmaltz doesn't even seem to be related to the chorus!)   williamson
> is, however, a good pianist and has a lovely voice, though i don't know if
> she played the piano on "the changer".

ok, i'm trying not to make my blood boil here.  anne haines did a great
job of explaining the value of womens music back in the 70's and 80's.
bad songwrting, mat, is not limited to womens music, and we all
know that.  but when you live ina culture where you dont have the
freedom to be out and all you can find to empower yourself is
music written by for and about women, it fills a gap.  and with
all due respect, as a straight male, can you appreciate what the
point of women-oriented music is?  "changer and the changed"
was a landmark album, and while a bit on the sappy side, made
a difference in a lot of lives, mine included.  i would urge you to
think about the impact and context of womens music before so
casually dismissing it. and let's also remember that not every
single song that ig have ewritten can be considered classic or
fabulous songwriting.  blaspehmy maybe but true nonetheless.  you
seem to be dismissing the womens music you have heard without
considering the context in which it existed. without major
labels to suport them, not many muscians were able to be
dedicated to womens music.  if there had been a larger market,
more support financially, maybe the genre, like any other, would
have strengthened and challenged writers for stronger songs.

> covered (though not on "the changer").   looks like margie adam needs to
> get her facts straight before she starts shooting off.
>

so do you.

look, the point of all of this is that womens music filled a need.
still does, in some ways.  as a lesbian, i find it quite a welcome relief
to find women only space from time to time, and music to fill that
space.  when i came out in 1987, there was a lot less of the freedom
we have today, but what we had then was even more than 10 years prior.
a lot of why bands like ig can write and perform songs which are
clearly lesbian is because of the groundbreaking of women's music.
someone else asked why it was called that....10 years ago, you
wouldnt have been able to go into a tower records and find a gay/les
music section.  womens music was the best apellation we were going
to get at the time.


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sherlyn-


"i'm in love with your goats"?   "was the lease complicated"?


i was rollin', baby.  lololol .  true creativity!

c'mon - i want more!  i know this is a clever bunch!  let's do it,  after all
the mind is a terrible thing.  and it must be stopped in our lifetime before
it kills somebody.  =)

cweti

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oops, well  in regard to messed up lyrics, i must say that i got the line
about the good earth dry correct, but my fiance always thought she was
singing "we'll give the finger to those we pass on the way out of town"
instead  of we'll leave the figuring...

i told him emily would not say that, would she?  then i thought if there
was something in the water she might!

i too for the longest time thought it was gotta tend the earth if ya wanna
grow!

anner

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in a message dated 98-02-08 15:45:23 est, mat writes:

<< there is, of course, another association which amy and emily might have
wanted to steer clear of - the bad lyric writing which was typical of some
of those artists.  >> [from article by c. townshed]

this really hits at what it is about women's music that grates on my nerves.
i must say that while i am grateful for the genre, it's over abundance of
schmaltz and mediocrity really get's tired.
i think the thrilling thing about "changer" for me was that it was clearly
about lezzzbian luuuuv .. but in the long run that just isn't enough. my
chris williamson records gather dust while my joni mitchell, laura nyro,
betty carter and bliiy holiday recordings never seem to get old.

i would agree with the point you made mat, that joni mitchell and others
paved the way for womens music, not the other way around
(betty carter started her own label in the 60's in order to stay true to her
free form be-bop roots, nyro was notorious for refusing to alter any of her
songs to make them radio friendly and mitchell endured the wrath of the
male elite while following her muse - remember "mingus" ?)
and ig came up through a compltetly different path.
ironicaly, margie adams is one wm artist who really stood out quality
wise for me, i love her "naked keys" (?) piano release, it doesn't stand
up to the work of eliane elias for me but it's good stuff.
great discussion !
later !
claire

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hi everyone.  it is good to be back.  for some reason i hadn't been
receiving any ig mail for the last week or so, must have gotten
unsubscribed for some weird reason, anyway.....

did anyone happen to boot the ig performance at the palace theatre in
columbus?  i would love more than anything in the world to get ahold of a
copy because it was my first ig concert with my mom - her first concert.
it would mean so much to me if i could make her a copy of it (as well as
another person dear to me on this list/twink :)

if anyone has a copy or knows where i could get ahold of one, please
respond to me in private.  thanks guys.

lori
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hi everyone!
what is going on with the great woods tape?is that a possibility? i was at
that show and it was so amazing... to own it would be a dream come true.
let me know if you have it or know how to get it...?
have a great day!
shayna

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actual line:

we'll amuse ourselves one day with these memories we'll trace.

what the line is in my mind:

will we meet ourselves some day?  with these mamories we'll trace.

and now i know it's wrong/incorrect, but i think it's so funny the thought
of emily and whoever meeting each other some day to trace their tits!
my .02
jessica

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on mon, 9 feb 1998, amy j. putnam wrote:

<snip>

> the music industry is still *very* much a male culture.  that hasnt
> changed.  a lot more women are finding their way through
> it but make no mistake that the music industry is very much a boys club.

well, parts of it are, parts of it aren't.   parts of the warner empire
have a reputation for being very artist-friendly, which is why it
attracted artists like iris dement and ferron.   even mary chapin
carpenter - signed to columbia - said she had no real experience of
discrimination from the music industry.   that's probably not the case for
most of those companies, and not every part of sony and warner's either.
on the other hand, there's the independent sector, which tends to be
considerably more artist-friendly than the majors anyway (though often
just as male-dominated, except for those which are owned by the artists
themselves).

> how else can one explain groups like spice girls and fem2 fem?

don't ask me, ask the idiots who buy their records.   (and while you're at
it, ask ladyslipper why they put fem 2 fem in the women's / feminist
music section, and judy dlugacz of olivia records - the label behind
williamson, meg christian, and more recently lucie blue tremblay and
deidre mccalla, for those who don't know - why she appeared on tv with
them.   though i've no idea of course what she said about them - she
might have said they were unmitigated garbage, like many of the reviews i
read.)

> as far as the fundamental dishonesty of womens music being lesbina
> music, i addressed this in my otehr post, but again, you wouldnt
> hav ebeen able to find a lesbian music section at stores which
> might carry womens music.  you do what you can to get the music
> out there.

you're right, i didn't consider that.

mat

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my gutter is dry.

i got out the map and still i was lost


my head was on the block until amy came and got me out of the lease.

shame on me, shame on you, shame on all, and shame on thee.

their is my four puns. they are not that good, but i thought i had to give
it a try.

missy

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hey not to be a pain, but someone asked about the show yesterday--on sale
2.16.98, not saturday as previously reported.

h

ps--someone tell the grrls to come back to new england!!  it's been almost
two months since my last fix!!!  ;->  (oh i can be soooo cruel.)

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chickenwomyn@hotmail.com typed...

<< there is actually a book i've seen that has a bunch of songs & their
  possible misquotations...perty funny. >>

that book is reallyreally funny, the actual title is "scuse me while i kiss
this guy...and other misheard lyrics" and the follow up, "hes got the whole
world in his pants...and other misheard lyrics" both by gavin edwards. to see,
you aol members can go here...
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/isbn%3d0671501283/oldiesmusica/9321
-1556989-212501">scuse me... while i kiss this guy : and other misheard lyrics
</a> and for those of you non-aol lucky souls, here...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/isbn%3d0671501283/oldiesmusica/9321-1556989
-212501(ill be damned, if thats not the longest address...)
anyway, there are quite a few books out there that go along with this
topic...check em out. :) and hey, take care of you.

love and kitkats,
tara ;)~

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hey y'all, just wanted to share...

i live in a basement in northern california, where its been raining almost
continuously for the past couple of weeks (well, not in the basement, but darn
near everywhere else).  and i woke up today expecting most of the same, but
when i walked up the stairs and looked up, it was nothing but the cleanest
blue sky and beautiful white puffy clouds.  and i immediately started singing
crazy game, which is a song i don't even really think about much, and then
realized that strange fire was the album i listened to in high school, spring
of my junior year, when i got off school early and sat in the back yard
reading every day it was sunny...speakers aimed out my bedroom window...one of
the happiest places of an otherwise chaotic time.  *smile*

peace,
shelley

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ok the official word on this is that leslie, ofelia81@aol.com who will
be collecting votes and i, who is collecting all the info about the birthday
ideas and will stick them on a web page this week, are waiting until we
get the last of the information on the chiapas project (dreiser?) before
we unleash the voting.   therefore the floor is still open to more new ideas or
elaborations on the other ideas, but no voting should take place yet.
when we decide which project to go with, then the project manager
will be the idea's creator(s).  comments or questions?

looks like i will be in chiapas as a peace delegate the week before
amy's b-day!  very exciting and a bit scary, but important work.
thanks to y'all who support this cause.

virtual hugs,
elizabeth from denver


>         i hope my last post re: amy's b-day project didn't squelch all
> motivation on the project (that's a pretty egotistical thang to think, huh?)
> so how come i haven't seen a single post on it since that time?
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we were listening to "blue suede" in the car and my friend keith
asked me if she was singing "bruce wayne."

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oh boy, these are just plain stinky.

1. emily and beth are playing football in the house. (bad kids!) emily
dives for a pass and accidentally knocks over a lamp. a few minutes later,
beth comes back into the room with the reconstructed lamp (and you can't
even see the cracks!) emily says, "how did you do that?!" to which beth
replies, "the power of glue."

(stop groaning, i already told you, they're bad.)

2. remember the kittens who lost their mittens and didn't know where to
find them? they went to emily, mama kitty, and said, "our mittens we have
lost." to which emily replied, "what? lost your mittens? you naughty
kittens! but, it's okay, the gloves will come to you."


3. what y'all should have said long before i started this whole thing:
    don't give that girl a pun!

amy m.

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"sucks that gutter dry" isn't part of "get out the map"???
mine will probably be the worst, though...  when i used to hear "let it
be me," i always wanted to sing "this is not a parting song" instead of
"this is not a fighting song."  this led to an unconscious combination
of "parting" and "fighting," and so now as a joke, my friends and i sing
it as (and this is terrible!) "this is not a farting song."  i, however,
am the one responsible for the little slip-up in the words.  (and "fart"
is not a word i say.  go figure.)
i'm just glad i'm not the only one messing up the words to songs.
teryn  :)

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emily's in a room with a very high ceiling and discovers that the ceiling
light has burnt out...she pulls a chair over, but the ceiling is just too
high...she sighs and says, "can any human being ever reach that kind of
light?"

yeah, yeah, yeah...that was really bad...i think whoever said "don't give
that girl a pun" had the right idea :}

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i've just been reading through some old material from the list, and
i found the "where were you" thread - wouldn't it be great if this
got started again? it seemed like a wonderful thread, and there were
some wonderful stories in there......

i guess the first time i heard the ig was the song from the
philadelphia soundtrack which (aggghh!!!!) i can't remember the name
of!!! i just thought it was a really nice version of the song, but
then i heard ctf on virgin radio (a british radio station), and that
sealed it ---- i was hooked.....

john.


peppermint patty : "happiness is a warm puppy, a b plus..."

marcie : "and kind friends"

(charlie brown and snoopy show)

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ok, i sowre for the longest time that in the 1200 curfews version of
least complicated that she said "there's life down the lonely road"...not
particularly funny, but misheard, nonetheless.  of course this is coming
from the same person that swore in the song round here by counting crows
that the singer said "i'm under the corn" instead of "i'm under the
gun"...yeah me! :)  oh, in case you all are interested in misheard lyrics
from lotsa songs there are a couple of funny books about that...one's
called "scuse me while i kiss this guy" and one's called "he's got the
whole world in his pants"...i think there's another one too....

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in a message dated 98-02-09 15:49:53 est, bonj1_95@worc.ac.uk writes:

<< i've just been reading through some old material from the list, and
i found the "where were you" thread - wouldn't it be great if this
got started again? it seemed like a wonderful thread, and there were
some wonderful stories in there......
  >>

okay the first time i ever heard the indigo girls (and was concious that it
was them) was only about 1 and a half years ago. i was at blue lake fine arts
camp (in michigan) and one of my cabin-mates had swamp ophelia. i loved it.
then when i came home my friend had just gotten home from interlochen and ig
had played there! she got the cd and i stole it from her (of course, i ended
up buying it myself). so that's how i got hooked! not real interesting, i
know.
dana

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i just wanted to let those of you who were inquiring about getting the boston
show on vhs or audio tape that i have both. if you're interested e-mail me
privately and maybe we can work something out.
take care,
amy  (indigo3000@aol.com)

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first time i ever heard ig. lying on my bed on a summer day, listening to
the newly purchased boys on the side soundtrack. not sure what made me buy
it, but it was one of those little things that surely changed my life. i
was listening along...bonnie raitt, cool. melissa, very cool. ooo, i like
this sheryl crow song. then, that famous intro started. hmm, i thought,
this sounds interesting...wow, who are these people? i was blown away.

thus began the continuing love affair...

amy m.

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in a message dated 98-02-08 17:04:06 est, you write:

<< "there are many newcomers to the women's music network, but most of the
performers don't relate to women's music and don't use the term. i observe
that
they use the network but simultaneously ridicule it. other musicians refuse
to
acknowledge their roots of support in the network once they experience
success
overground. i am disgusted by this behavior. i'm thinking in particular here
of
tracy chapman, the indigo girls and melissa etheridge."
  >>

another thought here....

i too came out at a time (1978) when this music was a lifeline to women who
had no other place to sing/hear about the love of/for a woman.  i listened to
and loved it... especially changer and the changed.  i now believe that the
time for this catergorization (women's music) has passed and i thank god daily
that we have moved a bit forward in this repressive society we call home.
additionally... its my understanding tracy chapman and melissa etheridge both
appealed to olivia (*the* women's music label) to record their music and were
rejected as olivia did not at the time have the resources to support them.
and... i still think of joan armatrading as women's music (because that was
how i first heard her) and melissa has played homage to her skill as an
artist.  do artists really ever play homage to a label?  particularly one that
didn't support them?

enough said?

michelle

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soorry to post this here, but i sent three blank tapes to becca redman
(dimmingsoul@hotmail.com) over two weeks ago and have not heard from her nor
has she answered my emails..... so, are you reading this becca?  does anyone
know how i can reach her?  thanks for your help,
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ok, i know i messed up thousands of lyrics, cause i'm french, and when i
can make out what the artist is singing, i just decide what i want to
hear!
i was trying to remember what ig lyrics i used to mess up, while
listening to "fugitive" and i always sing along to that song, except not
that time (walkman...people around...) and suddenly i hear amy sings:
"such a treacherous gain" and i always forget about it, i've been
singing "such a treacherous game" for the longest time..it seems i just
refuse to change my way... what if i was right and it was amy messing up
the lyrics... "same" rhymes more with "game" than with "gain"!! ha! ;p

o, and i also sing "my friend tanya" instead of "my friend tanner", but
that is completely conscious and on purpose...

july ;)

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i am terrible at deciphering the words to songs...a favorite country music song that goes "i am that man..." i invariably sing "i am batman..." but the really silly ig one was when i would sing leeds and instead of saying "i ache myself some more " i started off saying "i ate myself a moor" but that sounded totally silly so i decided it must be "i ate myself some s'mores" since i knew this was a fine, upstanding american tradition. my family was quite delighted when i finally seemed to get the hang of reading liner lyrics. :)

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hmmm...  at first i thought it was *screwed up boys*
and argentinians... which incidentally i thought were
cool lyrics... :)
amy


> now, i'm trying to think of where i
>screwed up in the singing-along dept. when i first
heard
>them - can anyone else relate?
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---mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com> wrote:
> in boulder played them all the time and he gave me a cd
> they put out that had an acoustic version of "shame on you"
> recorded at kbco.

'bco is a great station.  you're very lucky to have gotten a copy of
that cd, it sold out very quickly, as the "live in stuido c" cds
always do.

there's also a live version of "jonas and ezekial" on a previous
volume.  check out <http://www.kbcoradio.com/kbco/content2.htm> for
the other "live in studio c" cds (none of these are still available).
there's also a great pick of ig in studio c at
<http://www.kbcoradio.com/kbco/uhrlaub/images/photos/ig.jpg>.  other
pics are at <http://www.kbcoradio.com/kbco/uhrlaub/index.html>.
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---"amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com> wrote:
>
> picking nits, here...
>
> > if anything, margie adam's got it the wrong way round.   ig
resolutely
> > avoided having anything to do with the women's music movement on
their way
> > up - they wouldn't exclude men from gigs and they refused to play
> > festivals like michigan, because they wanted to build up a wider
fan base
> > than just the people involved in that scene - they didn't want to be
>
> hte language here is strong.  we know they didnt play these festivals,
> yes, but we dont know if they avoided them altogether.

actually, they *did* say that they avoided events which excluded male
members of their audience in a radio interview, though i don't recall
which interview it was.

> there
> used to be, at least, a womens music festival called rhythmfest
> in northern ga.  melissa etheridge played it before she was out
> (but after she started getting major label acclaim).

and she was very out at those events, while she wasn't elsewhere.
that bothers me more than ig, who were simply reticent everywhere in
public (though not in their personal lives).  i don't see that
evolution as being any different from the degrees through which many
of us progress in coming out (first friends, then co-workers, then
family, etc.).  others, like adams (and suzanne westenhoefer in her
criticisms of ellen degeneres) see more sinister motives.
==

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someone had recently mentioned about lwcty thinking the words
"i offered up a crystal ball to look through" were "i offered
up a little bottle of blue" and i thought it was pretty funny.

then today on my way to work i'm listening to rop and that
song comes on and i consciously make an effort to listen to
see if i could find "bottle of blue" and sure enough!  plain
as day... hehehe  that's definately what she says. hehehe :)
"little bottle of blue"  i think everyone should give it a
good listen. hehehe :)


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> >
> > hte language here is strong.  we know they didnt play these festivals,
> > yes, but we dont know if they avoided them altogether.
>
> actually, they *did* say that they avoided events which excluded male
> members of their audience in a radio interview, though i don't recall
> which interview it was.

do you recall if the interview said if they avoided even attending?
that's what i am driving at... not performing but partaking..


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not that many of you know me, or even care what happened to me, but i
just thought i'd share anyway...so i was in my car driving to school
this morning, running late as usual and stressing about being late for
stats yet again when i hit a pothole and blew my tire.  so i puller over
and tried to get the freakin lug nuts off but i'm a small person and
they had been put on with one of those air gun thingies.  anyway, so i
was trying my best and getting nowhere when this lady pulled over and
offered to help.  i turned on swamp ophelia while i waited for her to
get back with her husband.  so i'm listening to fugitive and it was so
weird.  there i was sitting in the sun by myself thinking of how marc is
*always* telling me to slow down on that road cuz the potholes are so
bad but then i realized that it didn't matter how late i was anymore cuz
stats would be over by the time i got there so now i was forced to sit
and relax and could actually enjoy the drive back instead of being
worried about what time it was.  anyway, then this part came on:
    < a day in the sun, dancing alone.  baby i'm so sorry.  now it's
coming to you, the lessons i've learned won't do you any good, you've
got to get burned.  the curse and the blessing, they're one and the
same, baby it's all such a treacherous gain...>
i was like hey that's me!  yeah it was nice to be able to sit and relax,
but i did miss stats for the third class in a row..  anyway, i just
thought i'd share.  isn't it cool how sometimes the lyrics just jump out
at you?  i've got lots of homework so i'll shut up now...
jill


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date:         mon, 9 feb 1998 15:54:34 -0700
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when my girlfriend and i first heard "power of two"  we where wondering
where emily got a tooley suitcase, and what the heck was it.  only to
find out she had a two-day suitcase.
we still sing "tooley" to this day, and have a good laugh about it.
po2 is one of our favorite songs to sing when we're riding around on
our motorcycle.

cynthia

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date:         mon, 9 feb 1998 18:33:26 est
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i love the misheard lyrics - we have all those books and it's hilarious. y'all
must get them. anyhoo, my girlfriend always thought that emily was singing "i
ate myself a boar" in leeds. but there's a few lines that we have not figured
out yet. in shed your skin, what in the hell is amy singing near the end? it's
a part that is not in the liner notes, and i swear she's singing something
about a "spirocidal jew" which i don't really know what that is, but that's
what it sounds like. it's probably something about a spear inside of you or
something amy-ish.

where was i when i first heard the indigo girls? i was in 10th grade, 1988-9,
and i was getting ready for school one morning, watching my mtv and there was
the video to closer to fine. then i asked around to all my friends to see if
they had ever heard of these "indigo girls" and one of them let me dub the
tape.

"and that was the beginning...of the rest of my life!" (you have to laugh at
yourself, because you'll cry your eyes out if you don't) - emily, 1200 curfews
segue into "least complicated" (but you knew that)

enjoyed my ramblings??

kasey

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date:         mon, 9 feb 1998 16:34:05 +0000
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the latest from the front lines --

i attended a peace rally for chiapas at diana degette's office
(colorado congresswoman) and her district director listened and
dutifully wrote down our demands, and promised us we'd
hear from her.  basically we want her to support hr-611 to remove
funding for the school of americas  which is supplying arms and
training to the mexican government (which we found out she does!)
and push for human rights in chiapas.  another group was at ben
nighthorse campbell's office doing the same.

anyhow, i met this woman, val phillips, who organizes these
groups of activists for indigenous issues in colorado.  i mentioned
that i was going to chiapas and have a large group of supporters
(that's all of you) and might (not to jump the gun) be raising some serious
money for the cause.  intrigued, she asked who and how, so i
began explaining, feeling a bit silly, about the indigo girls list
and it being one of their birthdays and all, and she exclaimed that
they were in the group she went to chiapas with last year!  and
aren't they fabulous women?  and which one's birthday was it
going to be for?  i told her it was amy's, and she said "oh, she'll
love that!!"  i swore her to secrecy, but it's nice having endorsement
from someone who knows her and is also very involved in chiapas.
small world!

does anyone else have chiapas rally stories for me?  apparently
a good number of them went on today, as it's the anniversary of the
beginning of the war in 1994.

world peace and ig bootlegs,
elizabeth

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date:         mon, 9 feb 1998 19:45:14 -0500
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this is a funny one -- i had this friend who was kind of a musical
idiot...(i grew up with her all my life so i'm *allowed* to say that! :)
welp, we were listening to the radio one day and that melissa etheridge
song came on "i wanna come over (correct title?!  i dunno...if not, you
all follow anyway, right?! here's where you smile and nod...)"  anyway..
when melissa says "to hell with the consequence..." julie thought she
was saying "to hell with the concert plans."  oh my god...laughed my ass
off. :) hee hee......

-bethany :)

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date:         mon, 9 feb 1998 18:52:55 -0500
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subject:      re: columbus, ohio boots?
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i would love this boot too...it was my first concert in ohio :-] if
anyone got it...please e-mail me and let me know.  thanks!

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date:         mon, 9 feb 1998 19:13:57 -0500
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subject:      one more misheard lyric

well, some might have noticed that i have a fixation with the word
anyhoo, and, indeed, in galileo i was convinced that the song said
"anyhoo, my being ever reached that kind of height..."  i think we all
know what it really says, but i like my version better.  in my ears the
girls will always say anyhoo...lol....

love,
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date:         mon, 9 feb 1998 17:41:01 -0600
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        i love these and want to encourage them... thus i shall re-post the ones
we did several months ago.   apologies to those old-timers who read these
before, but i really want to encourage this thread.  i mean, it's igc and
everything!

from 1200:
        in mr. dylan's song "tangled up in blue" i swore and could not hear
anything other than emily sing "we split up one sad, dark night in a green
english vest."  it didn't make much sense to me, and i usually can only
sing the amy parts of songs anyhow... so i didn't think about it too much.

from the new orleans jazz fest boot initially, but it kept up right until
bumbershoot:
        shame on you: to this day if i think about it, i can still hear amy sing
"let's go roll some chickens in the middle of the night!"  now this one i
just knew i had to be hearing wrong... but i could not get "road-block
tripping" out of it.  still when i listen to the jazz fest boot i hear
"roll some chickens".  i could never picture amy actually doing that tho...
lol!

and still on the subject of shaming of the sun... can someone post the
entire lyrics to shed your skin??  i love ig... i do... but their habit of
printing only some lyrics of songs makes me irritable.  obviously, i can
not be trusted to discern the proper lyrics myself...


more mr. limes!! more please!


tracy
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        - amy ray, shame on you

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date:         mon, 9 feb 1998 19:43:35 -0600
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hi y'all!

in "mystery", i used to think emily sang "you told me if i had my way i'd be bald", instead of "i'd be bored".  it bugged me cuz it didn't make sense, and i shuddered at the thought of a bald emily, but i was too lazy to check the lyric sheet for a couple months after i got the cd.

and that gotm line that everyone's been mentioning?  i got it "udderly" wrong--i thought it went "the same sun that warms your heart will suck that udder dry"!  you know, like when the sun beats down, and there's a drought, and the earth is parched, and the cows are emaciated and don't give milk... made sense to me!

i could never remember what "virginia woolf" sounded like, cuz i thought the song was called "it's alright"--that is, until sots came out, with a song on it that really was called "it's alright".  then i got it straight.


have an indigo day!
barb

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date:         mon, 9 feb 1998 20:55:12 -0500
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when i first heard "don't give that girl a gun," i misheard the line "i'm
your girl, strong and mean" as "i'm your girl, swallow me" :}  hee hee

kim
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date:         mon, 9 feb 1998 20:56:59 est
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i have been on the list for several months now and i would just like to add to
this thread.  the first time i ever heard the indigo girls, i was at the beach
with my girl scout troop.  a friend put in closer to fine, that whole weekend
we only listened to that one song.  it drove the adults crazy because it was
so repititious, but we didn't care.  we were young.  so anyway that was our
theme song for the trip.  i got back home, into the real world of high school
and all and totally forgot about closer to fine.  i, then went through a
traumatic experience with someone that i highly looked up to and respected.
they left my life without so much as a good-bye before i got to tell her how
much she had done for me.  so i cried for the next few weeks whenever i
thought about her or anything.  i wanted to get out of the depression that i
had gotten into and remembered closer to fine and what a great song it had
been on that one trip.  i decided to go and buy the cd.  i got home and played
it full blast.  it made me feel better, even if i wasn't at the beach.  from
that day on . . . i guess you could say i was inspired by the indigo girls.  i
was able to move on, even if my heart had been broken.   thanks for reading,
sorry it is a little depressing.

jillian :-)

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in dead mans hill...i thought amy was saying "dinner bell & ringdings"
insted of "dinner bell is ringing."  also i thought she was saying
"burning sparrows" instead of burning spirals...those guys are appaently
worse than originally thought 'cuz along with cats, they're burning
sparrows.
i'm sure ive had more...but i'll notice them when they happen
love,
  carol ann!!!!

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date:         tue, 10 feb 1998 13:09:53 +1100
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hey everyone,

tracy asked:
> and still on the subject of shaming of the sun... can someone post the
> entire lyrics to shed your skin??  i love ig... i do... but their habit of
> printing only some lyrics of songs makes me irritable.  obviously, i can
> not be trusted to discern the proper lyrics myself...

ha.  i won't post the whole thing (i'm about to go to lunch),
but here are what *may* be the lyrics for the extra verse of
"shed your skin".  this is from the faq - part of these lyrics
came from me listening to the song over and over again and
mindblowing volume, and part came from people on the list.  i
don't guarantee they're correct but it's the best we could
do...

---
16.7. what is that extra verse in "shed your skin"?

the words are almost impossible to make out but the extra verse is
something like, "i been lucky to find you / but it's a little too
late, too soon / when i look in doubt and fire / the spirits i abuse
in you / in you / in you..."
---

on the subject of mr limes, the funniest one i ever heard was
on the dar williams list.  on dar's first album "the honesty
room", there's a song with line that goes "i would leave with
inanimate grace..."  someone posted that they thought dar was
singing "i would leave a banana with grace..."  teehee.  so
close and yet so very far...

:) happy happy!
sherlyn
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love, and if i'm lucky, once - just once - the dream will drop to the
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in the pattern of the pieces i will see... something.  this will,
this will, this will happen..."                - peter mulvey

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hello, all!
      i just wanted to send another note to the list to make sure i've taken
care of everyone to whom i might've owed something.  this is my address.  it's
the same as the old one, but there's no 1 after the sanawike part.  anyhow, if
i owe you anything, i need to know because all of my papers got lost and such
when i moved... also, if anyone needs any michelle malone stuff, let me know;
i have a closetful of extra signed cd's for which people never sent checks...
if anyone would like to trade mix tapes, please write, too. =)  sarah needs
new music. =)  has there been any discussion of a next generation of loop
tapes?  just curious...i guess that's it. =)  peace, love, and happiness,
sarah

now playing: cathy fink & marcy marxer - "blanket full of dreams"  cute
lullaby album.  if you're into kids music, you should check it out. =)

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i have to say this--my boyfriend is so damn cute...  in "man on the moon",
when michael stipe says

"andy did you hear about this one, tell me are you locked in the punch,"

matt thought he said "tell me are you locked on the porch!"

bethany and i had a good hearty chortle over that one!  :)

dat's all!

i'm sure i've misheard some lyrics, but i can't think of any right now!
later . . .

shannon

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i always thought the line in shed your skin was "now shed men," which i
found pretty approproiate and necer thought twice until a friend was
playing it in her car and i really listened.  oh well, i guess my version
is a little too straight-forward considering the girls beautiful imagery
and metaphorical language.  just my weird ears...

alisa


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there are two i don't understand."
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hey y'all

i only recently took notice to amy's interesting hands.  in the first
curve article (i hope that's where i saw this picture, i don't have my
curve on hand to check..., if i'm wrong i'll hang my head and throw the
stones at myself...;) there's a picture where amy is holding her hands in
front of herself (that's an odd phrase, sorry), and her hands are sort of
dangling or hanging or however you might say it.  this was the first time
that i had noticed that amy has very long and slender hands/fingers.  i
always thought i had very long hands and fingers, especially fingers, but
amy blows me away.  i bet having long fingers helps play intricate guitar
chords/riffs.  not that i know what that comment has to do with anything.
it doesn't help me any, not that i play or practice often at all (maybe
once or twice every few months) and the only thing i know how (and *love*
to play is the beginning and chorus to strange fire.  well, that's enough
of my inane chatter. have a nice day, y'all.

peace, melissa

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-my life is more than a vision -emily saliers

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first time i heard ig was not that long ago and funny thing
is, i didn't really hear them... it was their lyrics
that turned me on to their music. let me explain: i was
reading 'x-files fanfiction' and in this one story an author
incorporated the power of two lyrics into it. i loved the lyrics
so much that after reading it and without even knowing the tune,
i went out in search of the song...and since then, i've been hooked.

sandy
:)

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when i first heard dead man's hill, i thought amy said empty cans of
chardonnay, instead of empty cans of charred remains. had never heard of
wine in a can before, but figured anything was possible.

peace,
susan

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on mon, 9 feb 1998, teryn robinson wrote:

> mine will probably be the worst, though...  when i used to hear "let it
> be me," i always wanted to sing "this is not a parting song" instead of
> "this is not a fighting song."

hey!

actually, i think it is *both*.  my partner thought it was fighting and i
thought it was parting.  we "fought" about it for a while.  she made fun
of me for thinking something as stupid as parting.  and i knew it wasn't
*fighting*.  but i listened more closely, and amy says both.  i'm not sure
which she says first, or in what verses.  btw, if i am wrong, i apologize.
i could have just been making these words up when i listened to the song,
but i'm pretty sure it is both.

peace, melissa

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-my life is more than a vision -emily saliers

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> "such a treacherous gain" and i always forget about it, i've been
> singing "such a treacherous game" for the longest time..it seems i just
> refuse to change my way... what if i was right and it was amy messing up
> the lyrics... "same" rhymes more with "game" than with "gain"!! ha! ;p

hey!

here i go again!  actually, i think it *is* game.  okay, i could be wrong,
i've checked no lyric sheets.  but not only does game rhyme better, i
think it  makes sense.  anyone got any lyric sheets within five feet, so
they don't have to get up to get them!  oh, and if i am wrong, i
apologize.  ugh!  mr. limes!!! :)

peace, melissa

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wow! 2 posts in 1 day... just reminds me of how much i should be doing
my homework... anyway... i have this vague recollection of hearing them
on mtv way back in 8th grade, least complicated or closer, i can't
remember which, but i also remember hearing those "popular" kids (you
know what kind of people i mean) talking about how cool they were and
since those same popular people had made my life an utter and complete
living hell for the past 2 years, there was no way i was going to like
the same music they did.  thankfully, i spent my summers at a girl scout
camp with a pretty high percentage of ig fans (everyone if memory serves
me right)  so ig music was basically forced onto us.  i distinctly
remember hating it as a camper, but finally i came to my senses and it
grew on me.  i can remember 1 night in particular there was nothing good
on the 2 radio stations that came in clearly so i put on the tape that
was in the tape deck (so, i think it was)... and i liked it!  i bought
my first cd (rop) on my next night off!  and the rest was history :)
thank you for your time :)
jill

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>on dar's first album "the honesty
>room", there's a song with line that goes "i would leave with
>inanimate grace..."  someone posted that they thought dar was
>singing "i would leave a banana with grace..."

okay, i'll own up to my dar mishearing!
in christians and the pagans, instead of hearing "finding faith and
common ground the best that they were able ..."
i was *convinced* it was "finding faith in god and grandma, best
that they were able ..."

hey, it seemed to make perfect sense at the time.
oh, how seeing things in writing can really change your perspective!

nite all!
cathy

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hey, all this talk about the columbus show has stirred something inside me
that i would love to know . . .
by any chance was someone at the july 12, 1994 indigo concert?  does
anyone have the boot for this concert and does anyone know who opened?
this was my first ig experience and i'd just die if i got ahold of this
boot. i loved whoever opened but i cannot remember her name.  all i
remember was her bringing her little daughter on stage and her name was
sarah.  any info would be forever grateful.
thanx!!!!!

j&t

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i was wondering if anyone had the ig disney special that aired when 1200
curfews came out, and would be willing to tape it for me...im willing to
work out a trade..thanks!!
                          have an indigo day!

                                always,
                                   jeanette

                     ***you killed kenny!  bastard!!***

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                so what is love then, is it dictated or chosen
                does it sing like the hyms of 1000 years or is
                it just pop emotion 'and if it was ever here and
                it left does it mean it never was true?
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i posted this over the summer, but i just love mr. limes so much that i
thought i'd post it again.

<<i just read this on the sarah list about the pittsburgh lilith:

"the show was topped off by the indigo girls ending with a rendition of (i
hope this is the right title) 'no sir, i'm fine' with the help of sarah,
sheryl, jewel, shawn, and lisa loeb.">>

that cracks me up every time! :)

andi

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i would just like to say these posts have been great!!!! :)

my sister used to think "devil with a blue dress on" was "devil
was a bluegrass dog" ... she also used to sing "puff the magic
dragon, lived by the see, and fronicked in an autum mist..."
of course, this was when she was 4 or 5.  she also used to do
her abcs as a b c d e f g kaytch i k k kel m n o p..... :)

she was just so damned cute!  hehehe :)

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|o|  all     _/ | \_                --nashville--            |o|
|o| things      |     "as i drive from your pearly gates i   |o|
|o| indigo     / \     realize / that i just can't stay /    |o|
|o| - rick   _/   \_   all those mountains / they kept you   |o|
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i first heard of them when i was flipping through vhi my 5th grade year and
saw the video for galileo.  thoght it was cool, but had no idea who was
singing it, and i never saw it again.  fade out and back in to the summer
before my ninth grade year...i was at a summer camp (cty...anyone out
there???)  the indigo girls were huge there, unlike my home town where they
were unknown, but i was clueless.  however, a hallmate of mine was a guitar
player and we used to sing together out on the steps while she played.  she
taught me closer to fine, galileo, and blood and fire, before i had really
heard them.  when i got home, i ran out and bought that tape (ahh!
ancient!  cassettes!!) and listened over and over.

ok, the next summer we were at this camp again and she introduced me to
rites of passage.  we sat and sang romeo and juliet and love will come to
you all the time, again before i had really heard the cd, even sang ctf at
the talent show and at the end of session closing ceremonies, and from then
on, i have been a die hard fan.  amazing how one's love can develop, huh?
i can't imagine a non-ig life now.

just thought i'd share...

alisa

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there are two i don't understand."
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does this work for 'ya?

> and still on the subject of shaming of the sun... can someone post the
> entire lyrics to shed your skin??  i love ig... i do... but their habit
of
> printing only some lyrics of songs makes me irritable.  obviously, i can
> not be trusted to discern the proper lyrics myself...album:  shaming of
the sun
tab: sweetcheeks

shame on you (amy ray)
============

a5 d5-b5 x2

a5
my friends they wash the windows
d5                       b5
and they shine in the sun
a5
they tell me wake up early in the morning sometime
  d5                          b5
see what beautiful job we done
a5
i say let's put on some tunes, sing along
d5              b5
dolittle all day
a5
go down to the riverside take off our shoes
d5                  b5
wash these sins away

(add an acoustic here playing a,d,b chords)
a5                      d5          b5
the river said la la la shame on you                 x2

i go down to chiano city park
cause it makes me feel so fine
when the weeds go down you can see up close
in the dead of the winter time
but when summer comes everything's in bloom
and you wouldn't know it's there
the white folks like to pretend it's not
but their music's in the air
you can hear them singing la la la shame on you
you can feel them dancing la la la shame on you

my friend tanner says you know me and jesus
we're of the same heart
the only things that keeps us distant
is that i keep fuckin' up
i said come down to chiano city park
wash away your blues away
the beautiful ladies walk on by
you know i never know what to say
they will be singing
oo la la shame on you

lets go road block trippin in the middle of the night
up in gainesville town
there'll be blue lights flashin
down the long dirt road
when they ask me to step out
they say they are looking for illegal immigrants
can we check your car
i say you know it's funny
i think we were on the same boat back in 1694
i said oo la la shame on you


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at 10:13 pm 2/9/98 est, you wrote:
i also remember hearing those "popular" kids (you
know what kind of people i mean) talking about how cool they were
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geez, i wish there were kids at my school who have even *heard* of
them...(besides the choir kids that sing ctf)

pax, celeste

p.s. i'm that 12 year old, remember?

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when i first got sots i thought emily was singing "we'll drink the
water, there seems to be something ailing everyone."  i actually
still sing that sometimes when i'm not thinking. hehehe :)

- rick

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>in shed your skin, what in the hell is amy singing near the end?

i've always heard it as:

  "i've been lucky to find you, but it's a little too late, too soon.
   when i look in doubting fire, the spirits i abuse, in you, in you,
   in you."

i just figured "doubting fire" was an indian term or something for
some ritual used to resolve conflict.  the faq says:

  "i been lucky to find you, but it's a little too late, too soon.
   when i look in doubt and fire, the spirits i abuse, in you, in you,
   in you."

so... :)  there we have it!  hehehe :)

~~~~~          _o_
|o|  all     _/ | \_                --nashville--            |o|
|o| things      |     "as i drive from your pearly gates i   |o|
|o| indigo     / \     realize / that i just can't stay /    |o|
|o| - rick   _/   \_   all those mountains / they kept you   |o|
|o| (and ani)          locked inside and hid the truth /     |o|
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but the really silly ig one was when i would sing leeds and instead of saying
"i ache myself some more " i started off saying "i ate myself a moor" but that
sounded totally silly so i decided it must be "i ate myself some s'mores"

thats ok cause i thought she was saying "i ate myself some more"  whatever
that means!  (c;

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okay, i can't take it anymore--i've gotta say it:

amy's hand looks crippled when she plays the guitar!!!

there.  i said it.  hee hee.

before you go gettin' all mad and stuffs, take a minute and look at that
hand of hers.  i love amy as much as anyone--hell, i think she friggin'
awesome!--but when she holds that pick and strums, her hand looks like it's
mutated!!  ;)

i think she has really nice hands too--a lot nicer than mine!  but has
anyone else (besides beth-a-craps) noticed the "crippled hand" phenomenon?


anyway,

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oooooo i finally remembered mine from shame on you:
where amy sings
"let's put on some shoes, sing along and do(o)little  all day ..."

i used to think she was singing
"let's put on some shoes in the morning, do little all day ..."

i still sing that sometimes when i'm concentrating too much on
not rear-ending the a**h*** in front of me in evil morning traffic!

cathy :o)

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hey all,

when sots came out i had to tape it quickly as i was going on an overseas
business trip, i didn't even write down the names of the songs.....

"screwed up boys and argentinians......"

jodi

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this is a great thread!  mine is from joking when amy sings, "sha la, sha la"
towards the end of the song.  i thought it was "shine the light, shine the
light"...alrighty then...good, bad or indifferent, i have one more...from
tuib;
i had a difficult time with the part .."both agreeing it was best", what i
heard was "bowling green in his vest".  ; )
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i'm fighting the urge to say "on a bus stop, reading sassy, waiting for
another day of 8th grade" because i know that that was my first sassy
exposure, and a darn cool ritual of my otherwise "welcome to the dollhouse"
experience (those oh-so-deep catherine articles)...but my first indigo girl
experience must have been somewhere a year or two later, reading sassy
somewhere in high school, and reading a good review of their eponymous album
(okay, you laugh, but this is also how i started listening to shawn colvin,
and tracy chapman, and untold other groovy songstresses they reviewed.
because before that, it was all cyndi lauper and tiffany, baby).  and so i
went to the mall record store and bought their album, dug all the nice and
sensitive emily songs and didn't know quite what to make of the amy songs.  i
know a couple of years later, when i was hanging out in the journalism room
(where i spent as much time as humanly possible) i was listening to one of
their tapes and this guy who was working under me looked at it and said
something like "the in-dig-o's girls, huh?  what are they like?" before going
back to his primus or vanilla ice or whatever.  and then i went to college,
where everyone had heard of them, which blew my mind...and that was just the
beginning of the rest of my life...

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sorry for the waste of bandwidth, guys!

kate,

if your out there i was wondering what the deal was with those boots that
you are sending me.  it's been a few months and i was wondering if
everything was still on.

thanks
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cathy wrote:

> oooooo i finally remembered mine from shame on you:
> where amy sings
> "let's put on some shoes, sing along and do(o)little  all day ..."
>
> i used to think she was singing
> "let's put on some shoes in the morning, do little all day ..."
>

funny....i  always thought it was "let's put on some tunes, sing along,
and dolittle all day..."  made sense because my big brother always said,
"let's put on some tunes" when he turned on the radio in our truck.
peculiar...

melissa.

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i've been trying to refrain from posting to this one (i feel like i've been
posting too much), but i just have to--  so many of the ones you all have
mentioned are *exactly* what i was thinking too, and this thread is just
cracking me up.  :)  but here's one of mine that i haven't seen posted yet:

in secure yourself, where she says "released from circles guarded tight",
i always think it's "released from circles, garden type".  i know that
makes absolutely no sense, but that's what i always hear.  most of my
misheard lyrics make no sense, and some of them aren't even real words.
before i had listened to the girls enough to know all their songs, i was
always singing nonsense!
ok, i'm gonna try to be quiet now.
leslie

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>> where amy sings
>> "let's put on some shoes, sing along and do(o)little  all day ..."
>> i used to think she was singing
>> "let's put on some shoes in the morning, do little all day ..."
>>
>
>funny....i  always thought it was "let's put on some tunes, sing along,
>and dolittle all day..."

ummm, that's what i *meant* to say! geez it's late, and in my
excitement at remembering my earlier retarded-ness, i seemed to
have jumped two big feet forward into a whole new realm of
retarded-ness. pleeeeeze forgive me all!
cathy :-o

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> cathy wrote:
> > oooooo i finally remembered mine from shame on you:
> > where amy sings
> > "let's put on some shoes, sing along and do(o)little  all day ..."

ahem, i just think cathy's attention was not entirely devoted to what she
was typing (listening to some tunes maybe?) it is tunes, or i've never
been so mislead in my life!  ;p

> > i used to think she was singing
> > "let's put on some shoes in the morning, do little all day ..."
> >
>
> funny....i  always thought it was "let's put on some tunes, sing along,
> and dolittle all day..."  made sense because my big brother always said,
> "let's put on some tunes" when he turned on the radio in our truck.
> peculiar...
> melissa.

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i have to say i haven't sat down and read the lyrics for sots that closely.
i've just enjoyed learning them as i go. so imagine my surprise/shame when
i'm reading all these posts and seeing that i'm in fact wrong about half
the lyrics! i really though emily sang "suck that gutter dry.."  what does
she say? obviously i'm going to go home and read the lyrics sooo closely
tonight! and as for this one..."we'll drink the water, there seems to be
something ailing everyone" - isn't that correct?

oh dear. my failure to really check out the lyrics is what i know of shame.
:-)

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hey, y'all,

   incidently, a little girl i used to know loved the song "puff, the magic
dragon", but she thought the words were "puff, the magic penis..."  and she
would sing it as loud as possible--about how he lived in a cave and frolicked
in honilee.  he he.  sorry, just had to share...;)  have a sunshiny day!

love,
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i was talking to a friend about this thread tonight.  she gave me
permission to tell that she thought it was "waterbed" instead of
"watershed."
oops.
ab

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---kristina d vaskys <cheesehed@juno.com> wrote:
>
> when i first heard lwcty, i always thought the words to that one line
> were, "if i've offered up a crystal bottle of blue" (intstead of
"crystal
> ball to look through")!!

now, i've always thought this was "little bottle of goo" or "bottle of
glue" which is exactly what i was singing just this saturday.  i stand
corrected.

and yeah, for the longest time i thought it was "suck that gutter dry"
too.

and then on blood and fire i thought amy sang "leaving with hedges and
there's only two flights".

and there was something that had to do with walk away, but i don't
quite remember...

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okay, i had to add my input on this one:

when so first came out, i thought that in "the wood song" emily was saying
"but the question drowns and hits us to the tee."  now, remmeber this was
4 years ago and i was 16 at the time!  i know that makes no sense
whatsoever!

:-) karen

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i was thinkin' about the latest discussion around margie adam's
quote and thoughts that came up around quality and such, and i
was intrigued by something that amy putnam said about
good songs as opposed to a body of work ... there are a lot of
good artists out there, even more mediocre artists....but few "great" ones.

the indigo girls have a strong body of work and they certainly are
popular, but do they make the cut as "great" ?

i don't know........
one interesting thing about being uhhhh...older... is looking at music
through the lense of time....some artists stand the test of time and
some don't...some "great" works on my short list are...hejira,
new york tendaberry, after the goldrush, moondance, horses,
greetings from asbury park...you get the picture..
it's not as easy to call contemporary artists.
take catie curtis for example...good, but not "great" .
dar williams ..very very good...not "great"
ani di franco ... possibly "great".
indigo girls ?
what do you think ?
do they make the cut ? get "in the canon" ?
if so, which album to you think will go down in history as
a "great" work of popular american music ?
why ?
(and arguments like " because they got me through my divorce"
don't count ;)
just wonderin'
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ok, all that radio stuff i've said before (like hearing ctf or
somethin), pales in comparison to what is going on righ now!!  i was
listeng to a boot that anna creech sent us (thanks!!), and when it was
over, i decided to turn on the radio.  i turned it on, and blood & fire
was on!!!  oh my gawd.  i forgot that they play whole albums @
12:00...and their playing the self titled album.
and sarahs sleeping....oh well. its not like we dont own it.
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and their playing the self titled album.

i can't believe i made a big ten error...that should be they're playing
the self titles album.
carol
(at this very moment they are playing center stage...this is soooo
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>>."we'll drink the water, there seems to be

>something ailing everyone" - isn't that correct?


i haven't looked at the lyrics yet, either, as i enjoy figuring as i
go, but isn't it "<color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param>don't</color>
drink the water..."  ?


of course, i may be off base yet again...


and for all the tuib lines, i, too, had a vest-inspired mishearing...i
thought the line was "with a green in her vest"  glad to know i am not
the only mixed up one out there.


alisa, who is loving this thread  =-)

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in a message dated 98-02-08 21:04:12 est, cheesehed@juno.com writes:

<< when i first heard lwcty, i always thought the words to that one line
were, "if i've offered up a crystal bottle of blue" (intstead of "crystal
ball to look through")!! then after a few times, i thought, "wait a
minute, that doesn't make any sense. . ."  >>

lol!  when i sang along for the first hundred times i thought it was "crystal
bottle of glue"   :)))))

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hi folks,

just wanted to let you all know the lineup for the daemon records showcase
at this year's nea (nashville entertainment association) extravaganza.
it's friday, february 20, starting at 9:00 cst.  here's the lineup:

9:00    big fish ensemble
10:00   teri binion
11:00   bellaluna
midnight - danielle howle and the tantrums

the showcase will be at douglas corner cafe, 2106-b 8th avenue, south,
in nashville, just like last year.  last year's showcase was awesome!
that's when i saw danielle perform live for the first time and she
absolutely blew me away!
for those who don't know (which is probably most of you:), the nea
extravaganza is an annual event that showcases local, regional indie-
label, unsigned, and some national acts.  i believe the money that is
raised goes toward arts education in the schools.  amyray, aside from
the kickoff concert on wed. 2/18 featuring jars of clay, the main part
of extravaganza is the three nights of great music.  each night -
thurs. 2/19 - sat. 2/21, there will be artists performing at around 15
different clubs around town throughout the evening.  the only national
act i can remember from last year was edwin mccain (who rules:).  there
are lots of folk (such as the kerrville, tx showcase last year), roots-
rock, alternative, punk, country, some jazz, ethnic and bluegrass artists
playing extravaganza.  no superstars, but if you like regional and indie-
label artists, you'll enjoy this!

i seriously doubt amy will be hosting the daemon showcase this year, since
they're supposed to be playing in australia on feb. 21.<g>

if anyone plans to come to nashville for this, e-mail me!

peace and cool music,

joan :-d

p.s. - i don't have a schedule of artists yet, 'cause when i called nea
last friday, they said it kept changing.  i will hopefully have something
within the next week...

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hey everybody,
just a few funny stories about misheard titles and lyrics:

in september a good friend of mine went to see ig at the show at bates
college and when i asked her how it was afterwards she said, "great! they
opened with come on over now." i did not have the heart to tell her that
it was called shed your skin.

i have a friend dawn-michelle, whose on the list too, who thought that the
line in get out the map that really goes "that big ball of orange sinking
slyly down the trees" was "that big bowl of porridge sinking slyly down to
me."

dawn-michelle's little sister, courtney, thought that the line in hammer
and a nail that really goes: "a chin and a hand in a thoughtful pose" was
"a gin in your hand and your bottle closed."

i know this is getting long, but one more dawn-michelle story: she has
very vivid dreams and is good at remembering the details. anyway, a while
ago she dreamt that she was jamming with amy and emily some place and all
of a sudden she (dawn-michellle) decided to break into a
stream-of-consciousness of her own, which she told me went like this:

"i was thinking about bananas and how they're pretty when they're peeled.
you know, i was thinking about the truth and all the ways it is
revealed..." she said that it went on but she can't remember the rest, but
in the dream amy was just smiling at her and jamming along.

i'm going to sign off now before this gets any longer.  just thought i'd
share!

take care,
chloe

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i heard......."now the pork and lard is empty" instead of "now the parking
lot is empty". took me awhile to figure it out :)

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subject:      just heard the new ani difranco album...... (nigc)

i brought the nwe ani difranco album ("little plastic castle")
yesterday, and i know it's not igc, but there is some really great
stuff on there...

probably my favourite tracks at the moment are the title track, "as
is", and "pulse" (this takes a while to get into - it is 14 minutes
long! - but after a while i found it really relaxing....)....

i don't know whether anybody else has hard the album yet.....

john.


peppermint patty : "happiness is a warm puppy, a b plus..."

marcie : "and kind friends"

(charlie brown and snoopy show)

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somebody just reminded me of probably my most embarrassing misheard lyric.
though it's not igc, i thought i'd share it.

a few years ago there was a country song that goes "i'm just an old juke
box junkie, spending my time spending my money"  when i first heard it i
swore he said "i'm just an old juke box junkie, spending my time spanking
my monkey" ugh!!

peace,
susan

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okay, my turn to add.....

        what i can remember right now is that on caramia, i sang (and still do) "i
ache myself amour" , which makes no sense, but there is a vague beauty in
that statement, which is usual of emily, so i figured.....

        first ig experience? kinda unique in that the music came last. i remember
reading about them in our college newspaper in my sophomore year, about 4
years ago.....(i feel old...) galileo was the topic and the gyst of the
feature said that the "top 40" (or whatever list have you) is not usually
blessed with such a profound entry.

        next......maybe roughly during the same period, i remember flipping
through tv and saw this unusual video of these two women singing against a
plain white background interlaced with such thought-provoking snippets like
"i spent my entire life 20 miles from where i was born" and "i give my milk
to a man with rough hands who ate my brother" (forgive me if i misquote,
it's been 4 years!....)

        i remember being blown away by the beautiful, beautiful harmonies of the
pair, and got down their names ("indigo girls"? hmmm....) but never really
followed up on them (my loss...)

        then, finally, during a party wher my cousin dragged me along to his
friends b-day party (i am a shut-in and homebody by nature, and he was
doing me a favor (he thought) by bringing me out.). of course, i didn't
know anyone, spent the time just looking at the cd collection,  and saw a
cd of "rites of passage". i immediately recalled the video i saw and asked
to play it. i distinctly remember "joking" (those chords!!!!!) and asked to
borrow the cd, where i made a bootleg which i have played to death (and
still have to this day!!) of course, now my collection is a lot more
advanced, all cds of all their studio albums.

        as an addendum to that, is there any way i can get a copy of their music
videos? i was hoping someone could boot me a copy or
something......remember, i am from the philippines, so mailing it is
another tricky situation....:)

peace,
ian

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hi y'all,

all of this talk about misheard lyrics...i had to share my most embarassing
one....not by the girls but funny none the less.

remember the song "bad moon rising"?  i can't remember who it is by....but
there are several times in the song when they say "there's a bad moon on the
rise"  i used to think that they said "there's a bathroom on the right".  i
have never been able to live that down!

nancy

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i too totally thought it was "empty cans of chardonnay", for about a year!
i figured it was a southern thing.... oops

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for years i thought chickenman said "slipped into a desert /
killed by prarie dogs and rabbits."

the sad thing is i had even read the lyrics while listening
at various times.  i must've stopped the cd before i got
there. hehehe :)  it is song #9, after all.

- rick

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---mmedido@aol.com wrote:
> it's not as easy to call contemporary artists.

very true, claire!  i don't know if i would call any particular album
of ig's "great," because there's no one that i just love every single
song (rop comes closest).  but... i was pleased when i met emily
(click on the backstage pass on my ig index for details) to be able to
pay her my highest compliment... that of the thousands of cds and
records in my collection, ig are the only ones that have *never* let
me down... they are the most consistently excellent, while still
taking chances, and there's not a cd of theirs that i won't play again
many times (whereas with other artists like ani, i am much more likely
to play newer cds when i'm in the mood for their music).
==

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---"amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com> wrote:
> do you recall if the interview said if they avoided even attending?
> that's what i am driving at... not performing but partaking..

oh, i see... no, i don't think i've ever heard them commenting on
attending women's festivals.
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in a message dated 98-02-09 22:36:22 est, you write:

<< ugh!  mr. limes!!! :) >>

what does this refer to?  i mean, i understand that it has something to do
with misheard lyrics, but where did it come from?

also, i was sure that ctf was "the less i seek my source for some
definitive/the closer i am defined" and i thought it was a brilliant lyric!
oh well...

pam

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i wrote:

<<if so, which album to you think will go down in history as
a "great" work of popular american music ?>>

please forgive my amerocentric comment ...sometimes
i forget how big the world really is, and not everything in it
is american ;)

hee :)
claire
ps...did you hear that there was a disruption at the opening of the olympics ?
the swedish team spotted a group of norwegians in the crowd who were
harrassing them and throwing firecrackers at them. the swedes retaliated by
picking up the firecrackers, lighting them, and throwing them back.

(heh, heh....hey, i'm swedish, and norwegian ! ;)

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you wrote:
=)remember the song "bad moon rising"?  i can't remember who it is by....but
=)there are several times in the song when they say "there's a bad moon on the
=)rise"  i used to think that they said "there's a bathroom on the right".  i
=)have never been able to live that down!
=)
=)nancy

        that's credence clearwater revival.  the guy who wrote that
song is named john fogerty... he had a special on vh1 recently, and
jokingly sang the line "there's a bathroom on the right" because so
many people had misheard it that way.  just thought i'd share...

        ttyl,
        mike feeney             "there's a bad moon on the rise..."

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>i've just been reading through some old material from the list, and

>i found the "where were you" thread - wouldn't it be great if this

>got started again? it seemed like a wonderful thread, and there were

>some wonderful stories in there......


<color><param>8080,0000,8080</param>hm... think it was about 4 years ago.
i was in farmington me, at the local giffords (ice cream place) when
galileo came on the radio.  from that point on i was hooked.


jenny

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>  what does this refer to?  i mean, i understand that it has something
> to do with misheard lyrics, but where did it come from?

i made up the "mr. limes" thing summer before last when we were having
a discussion of misheard lines on the list..."mr. lime" itself is a, er,
miswritten form of "misheard line".  i was posting my own misheard ig
lyrics at the time and drinking a limeade, and just put two and two
together...
had no idea he'd survive this long. =)

peace, love, and citrus fruits,
ponygrrrl

p.s.  forget about your eagle, forget about your pride...;)

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it's being previewed at an online listening party at www.jamtv.com - i have
had it for almost two weeks and i like it a great deal - it sound more like
not a pretty girl more than anything.

i think "independence day" gets my vote as fave song currently

mike r.

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i have messed several of their songs lyrics before until i learn the words
that are right. it takes my ears sometimes longer to pick up the right
words and sometimes i cheat and look at the words and get it faster. as to
which songs i have messed up i can not remember which parts, but i messed
up get out the map and its alright. as to which parts i do not remember.
missy

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     amy hands


amy hands long
and sleender
wrraps her fingers
around the guiter strings
to make a beautiful sound.

melissa sue singhaus

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i have always admired amy's hands. they are real sexy and she grips the
strings beautifuly with her fingers. i hope poems are a loud on the list.
if not let me know and i will not post anymore poems i have on the girls up
in my head.
missy

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this is funny. :)  there was a show on comedy central a while back that
was a spinoff of "the kids in the hall" -- oh yeah!  it was called "the
vacant lot (anyone remember it?!)!"  ummm...there was a sketch once
where all these guys were sittin' around a table playing poker and some
guy started singing that tune (under his breath)..."blinded by the
light....blah blah blah.."  i don't know the real words myself, but he
sang "blinded by the light, held up like a douche by the foreman of the
night.."  they argued about the words through the entire bit, with other
suggestions such as "blinded by the light dressed up in some rouge
you're gonna throw away the night.."  it was as funny as hell -- just
thought you all might appreciate it. :)  it was a funny show...can't
figure out why it didn't last! damn!

-bethany :)

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this is funny....i just remembered once when shannon and i were watching
watershed -- during the galileo video i commented once on the guy
carrying the telescope...(hence, the name "galileo?!"  duuuhhh!)..
anyway, shan said "oh my god! all this time i've been thinkin' that he
was walking around with a bicycle on his back!"  what in the hell?!
it was cute. ;) i'm sure she appreciates me sharing it with the world.
:)  (oh, there's so much i could share, but i won't. :)

-bethany :)

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bg the fourth is dedicating this late edition of birthday wishes to the
snowstorms blessed on the shennandoah valley by el nino.

*****
february 1
trace@wolfenet.com  (tracy weeks)
happy 30th, tracy!
(bg the fourth says to stay away from fred mann's still... ;)

february 2
kbode@unlinfo.unl.edu (kristan bode)
happy 27th, kristan!

february 2
valkyrie7@juno.com (lisa r johnson)
happy 21st, lisa!

february 4
bdruttma@uoknor.edu
happy 21st!
"there i am in younger days, star gazing, painting picture perfect maps of
how my life and love would be..." "love will come to you, hoping just
because i spoke the words that they're true..."

february 6
breckmi@mail.auburn.edu (debbie breckenridge)
happy 28th, debbie!

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february 8
threnody@linknet.net (i. bruce)
happy 34th, bruce!

february 8
73771.760@compuserve.com (herbert huels)
happy 19th, herbert!

february 9
aml@scn.org (ann m. labeck)
happy birthday, ann!

february 10
abrown2@zeus.towson.edu (alexis)
happy 22nd, alexis!

february 11
walker@coral.bucknell.edu (mandy walker)
happy 21st, mandy!

february 11
chocobo11@aol.com (elizabeth)
happy birthday, elizabeth!
"chickenman, chickenman, chickenman hold my hand...."

february 11 ('61)
104241.302@compuserve.com (linda)
happy 37th, linda!
"oh mercy what i won't give to have the things that mean the most not to
mean the things i miss..."

february 11 ('57)
mcarneiro@wow.com (mel carneiro)
happy 41st, mel!
"when you're learning to face the path at your pace every choice is worth
your while..."

february 14 ('70)
teddie@telepath.com (jocelyn barton)
happy 28th, jocelyn!
"we owe nothing. nothing is ours/ not even love so fierce it burns like
baby stars/ but this poverty is our greatest gift/ the weightlessness of us
as things around us shift..."

february 14 ('68)
janinsdale@aol.com (jan stevens)
happy 30th, jan!

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what are those lyrics?  i have tried so many times to figure it out, and
no one i have talked to knows either.  any ideas?

on tue, 10 feb 1998, bethany wrote:

> this is funny. :)  there was a show on comedy central a while back that
> was a spinoff of "the kids in the hall" -- oh yeah!  it was called "the
> vacant lot (anyone remember it?!)!"  ummm...there was a sketch once
> where all these guys were sittin' around a table playing poker and some
> guy started singing that tune (under his breath)..."blinded by the
> light....blah blah blah.."  i don't know the real words myself, but he
> sang "blinded by the light, held up like a douche by the foreman of the
> night.."  they argued about the words through the entire bit, with other
> suggestions such as "blinded by the light dressed up in some rouge
> you're gonna throw away the night.."  it was as funny as hell -- just
> thought you all might appreciate it. :)  it was a funny show...can't
> figure out why it didn't last! damn!
>
> -bethany :)
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http://detnews.com/menu/stories/21969.htm

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this miss heard lines thread is so funny! i was wondering if some kind soul would volunteer to compile them and put them on a web page or email them to all of us who are interested as one long piece? we could each email our mr. limes and the original words to this kind person and hey presto! we would be halfway to creating our own "book" of ig misheard lines.

actually that might be something that amy and emily might like to read from the fans when we give them their birthday presents hunh?

what say? any volunteers?

urvashi

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i would really like to have some old boots...and i don't mean the kind
you put on your feet.... =)
the ones i'm looking for are tuesday's children, blue food, and colour
me grey.  if anyone has these and is willing make copies for me, i would
greatly, greatly appreciate it.

thanks so much,
sharon
"i fell on my knees to kiss your land but you are so far down that i
can't even see to stand in nashville..."

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115 you are 17 itchy trigger venomous you are growing longer,
you are growing stronger
you shed your skin now shed this come on over baby you tell me it's holy
holy i don't know what that is come on over let's call it the fullness of
time i don't know what that is hey holy console me some power control me
remorse it i force it can't free it so be it. i'm speeking in tongues
handling you i get religion now look at it the days grow longer as we grow
stonger so shed your skin baby let it rip now tell me it's holy holy i
don't know what that is i want to call it the fullness of time. but i don't
know if it is hey holy console me some power control me remorse it i force
it can't free it so be it. i got the hangman i got them milagro i got the
celebration too. the flesh is strong the spirit is stronger so shed your
skin baby let it through come on over.

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hi y'all,

i do remember this thread from not too far back, but i felt the need to share
again after reading so many people's stories of hearing the girls at summer
camp.

my first tast of the girls was the summer of 1989 when i was a counselor in
training at girl scout camp in new hampshire.  those of you camp folk out
there...doesn't there always seem to be a "song of the summer"?  well, that
summer the songs were ctf and kf.  i went home and bought the album that day,
and i have been completely hooked ever since.  so has the camp.....the indigo
girls are a mainstay of music in our units, on the waterfront, and even at the
campfires.

nancy

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> what are those lyrics?  i have tried so many times to figure it out, and
> no one i have talked to knows either.  any ideas?
"blinded by the
> > light....blah blah blah.."
        i believe the correct words are..."wrapped up like a duece another runner
in the night"...still doesn't make much sense, but i have one of those
misheard lyrics books and that's what it says...kc1

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hi!
        speaking about sys, does anyone have a clue what emily is doing in
that part that goes, "i've been lucky to find you..." when she sings that
really high pitched thing in the background, is she actually saying
something, or just making a noise?? just wondering if anyone know anything
about that!

                                                                -heather

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in a message dated 98-02-09 21:17:27 est, sanawike@aol.com writes:

<< has there been any discussion of a next generation of loop
tapes?  just curious...i guess that's it. =) >>

i was thinking about this the other day and how i need some new music too, so
if anyone is interested in doing this loop tape thing again, lemme know and i
will organize it if there's enough interest...

peace
sasha

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hi all!!
        someone posted how their first time hearing ig was at girls scout
camp!!! yay..that's how i discovered them too! it was the summer of 93 and
i was a counselor there. one of the other counselors had a rites of passage
tape and played it all the time. i had never heard of them before that, but
i fell in looove with that album. as soon as camp was over i went out and
bought it!! i know my story isn't very exciting, but i just thought i'd
share! i love girl scout camp!!!

                                                        -heather

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i'll volunteer to compile the mr limes . . . if anyone has some misheard
lyrics, email them to me privately with the subject line:  "mr. limes
compilation"

thanks!

shannon

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i knew if i thought had enough i would think of my own misheard lyrics to
share! on chickenman, i *always* thought she said "i kill five prarie dogs
and  arachnid."  ok, that makes no sense, which is why i subsequently
looked up the lyrics and figured out the actual words! thanks for listening!
                                                christy :)
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and it's my thirst that brought me to the water
when i give it all up then she carries me on
and it's alright"
                        -emily saliers

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hey all!

hmmmm, an ig cd that should be among the greatest of all time?  i slept on
this question and couldn't really put an ig cd that should be on the list.  a
cd which i think should be on the list is liz phair's exile in guyville.
everytime i hear it, it seems new and refreshing.  i don't believe it is dated
at all!  it's timeless.

brian

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i was wondering if there was a midi site with any of the indigo girls
songs?????

would you mind letting me know.

thanks
belinda

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      michelle malone is selling her guild acoustic guitar with pick-up.  it
has a rasta peace sticker on the body and is in good condition.  serious
inquiries only, please.  any questions may be sent here, but will be addressed
next week.  thanks, sarah

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in a message dated 98-02-10 13:30:58 est, you write:

<< i got the hangman i got them milagro i got the
celebration too. the flesh is strong the spirit is stronger so shed your
skin baby let it through come on over. >>

anyone know what milagro is?

anne

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the original song is by bruce springsteen and the words go: "blinded by the
light, cut loose like a deuce, another runner in the night"

it was later covered by someone else who changed the words to something like:
"blinded by the light, wrapped up like a deuce, another runner in the night"
but the words were mumbled (i think on purpose) so that you would think they
were saying: "blinded by the light, wrapped up like a douche, another rubber
in the night"

go figure.

anne

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i'm quite ashamed of this misheard lyric, but seeing as so many other
people have posted theirs (some being as embarrassing as mine), i
thought i should share.  i just recently discovered that in "joking" amy
sings "you shook it off with a smirk and a toss" and not "you should get
off with a smirk and a toss."  oops.
the first time i ever heard them was while watching "sound fx."  they
played the "least complicated" video.  i almost got "swamp ophelia"
after that, but i didn't.  i did love the words.  during the summer of
'96 (after hs graduation), a friend and i helped a former teacher paint
her classroom.  after my friend left, we wondered what we should listen
to while we finished up, and she suggested ig, her fav.  this was my
first *real* ig experience.  i only remember "least comp" and "reunion,"
but it's a really fond memory... the two of us painting and singing (it
wasn't too hard to learn the words to "reunion.")  that afternoon, i
called a friend and ended up trading my sarah mclachlan "fumbling
towards ecstasy" for her "rop."  i then borrowed "so" from that teacher,
and we talked about whose songs we liked better.  "so" is still my fav.
teryn  :)

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hey everybody,
i know that i posted some misheard lyrics last night, but i thought of
some more. i have a friend who messes up the titel of every song that she
hears. it's actually very funny. when she first heard the song house at
pooh corner she called it help me if you can.

you know the song can you feel the love tonight by elton john that was in
the movie the lion king? this same friend called that song leave the very
best.

i have to admit that the first time i heard caramia i thought that the
line about harriet the spy was "harry and despised" don't ask how i came
up with that. it makes no sense. anyway, that's all for now.

take care,
chloe

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>"<snip>
>
>it was later covered by someone else who changed the words to something like:
>
>
>anne
>
>
>fyi blinded by the light was indeed written by bruce springsteen the band
>that later covered it and had a huge hit with the song was
>manfred mann.
>
>peace,
>
>dan

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hey claire and list friends!

        musically, the girls are great harmony - vocally, musically,
lyrically.  as emily said, they are like yin and yang, one of their
strengths fills the others void and they compliment each other perfectly.  i
think that's what makes them so special!
        in isolation, their musical skills are probably mediocre to above
average in the full spectrum of entertainers in general.  however, to see
them weave their musical magic at a live performance is to live!
        a&e are so intense, energetic and spiritual.  they sweep you up with
enthusiasm and emotion :)  they have quenched my soul and left me content on
many occasions :o

theeeeeeiiiiiirrrr greeeeeeeeaaaaaaattttttt!!!!
says tony da tiger ;)

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> in a message dated 98-02-10 13:30:58 est, you write:
>

> anyone know what milagro is?
>
> anne

i heard that milagro was the spanish word for "miracle"

kim & rhea

do we have to live inside its walls
to identify the cage?
                                                ferron

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helen!

did you get my email?  the really really long one?
but anyways, i'll be picking up the new issue of
curve soon and where do you want me to send it?  if
you want i can send it to whoever you're staying w/
in the states, or i can send it to au.....or whatever.

i'd em privately but i don't know if you're on the
list or not...

sorry for the nigc

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well, since i'm new to the list, i guess this is the perfect opportunity
to introduce myself.  this is kind of a long story....sorry!  i first
heard indigo girls when i was 16 and working in washington, dc, as a
congressional page.  i had finally started to date this guy at my church
that i'd crushed on for about four months, and all was well.

the week before our second official date, he stayed up one night making
me a tape after he had learned of our mutual love for john denver and my
lack of any of his cds or tapes in my collection, being so far from
home.  he filled one side of the tape with john denver, and then filled
the other side with random favorites of his:  grateful dead, tom petty,
allman brothers (sweet melissa, of course :o)...  he gave it to me on
our date, and told me to pay special attention to the last song on the
second side.

after we kissed (!) goodnight, i ran up to my room to play the tape,
fast-forwarding it to that oh-so-meaningful last song.  the actual song
he had wanted me to listen to was just a short cut of the allman
brothers' "tied to the whipping post," which was a reference to an
inside joke between us.  but just before that was the song "galileo."
initially i thought that was the song in question, and i could not
figure out what meaning that could hold for us at all!  my roommate and
i sat on the floor listening to it three or four times, commenting on
what a strange song it was.  i finally figured out that he had meant the
allman brothers' song and didn't really think about it again.  i did,
however, listen to the tape to the point of wearing it out and became
quite familiar with "galileo" and learned to really like it.

at the semester i switched roommates, and one of my new roommates
brought amy&emily along with her.  i heard "galileo" once coming from
her stereo, and i commented on how i liked indigo girls, etc.
(pretending to be really knowledgable on the subject).  she went off on
them and how great they were, etc. and i just sort of nodded my head and
kept pretending to know what i was talking about.

a couple of months later, my best friend (also her boyfriend) left the
page program, and it was a very difficult time for both of us, because
he was the type of guy you just tend to lean on.  he was from minnesota,
and my roommate started to play "ghost" a lot.  that's when i really
realized the girls' power with words and imagery, and i was hooked.
that passage in ghost is still my favorite metaphor in the whole world.

"and the mississippi's mighty, but it starts in minnesota, at a place
that you could walk across with five steps down.  and i guess that's how
you started, like a pinprick to my heart, but at this point you rush
right through me and i start to drown..."

thanks (y'all) for indulging me!

melissa.

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hey y'all. i have a question or a few questions to ask of anyone who
attended the taping of the girls in may 1997 for 99x radio station for a
special called livex. if you were there, could you please e-mail me
privately? i have an audio tape of the show, but would like to know what
else happened (what i can't hear and some of the visual stuff too). if you
can help, please let me know...thank you *so* much!

                                                christy :)


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and it's my thirst that brought me to the water
when i give it all up then she carries me on
and it's alright"
                        -emily saliers

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> from: melissa singhaus <msinghaus@msmisp.com>
> to: cml@mindspring.com
> subject: some indigo girl poems
> date: tuesday, february 10, 1998 6:54 pm
>
>   up close
>
> you could see her face,
> her smile brightened up my day.
> she walked with great poise
> that showed she was having fun.
>
>     behind the stage
>
> standing there in the crowd
> i couldn't help but notice
> this wonderful creature behind the stage
> little did i know she would walk later in front of me.
>
>
>                meet
>
> right in front of me amy raye walked
> wished i would have said hello
> all i did was smile at her
> and she smiled back at me.
>
>
>            broken strings
>
> amy plays with such poise,
> that her strings never seem to stay in tac.
> oh, well that is the price of some great
> talent.
>
>
> the above were all about amy raye. the next set are about emiley saliors.
>
>   humor
>
> great sense of humor
> and laughter about.
> you could never leave
> without a smile.
>
>      love
>
> friendly loving is her nature
> caring is what she does.
> putting sound behind her beauty,
> is what we love to hear.
>
> the following are about the indigo girls together.
>
>    sound
>
> hear their wonderful sound
> on the radio,
> in the car,
> on tv,
> or in person.
> wherever we listen
> we hear the wonderful sound.
>
>
>        southern
>
> to chicks from georgia,
> made us laugh,
> made us cry,
> and brought us together.
>
>
> melissa sue singhaus
>
> i would love to hear other peoples poems on these girls rather on the
list
> or in my personal box. i plan to gather poems about these girls, k.d.
lang
> or melissa etheridge for my one year specilal issue of out loud due out
in
> october. i can share my melissa poems on the list let me know if anyone
> wants to hear them. i only have one on k.d. and i am sharing it with you
> now. this one appeaars in into the unknown anothogy book that the
national
> library of poetry does. i would like feed back on my poems. rather you
> liked them or not. i can take critism.
>
>    singer
> (k.d.lang)
>
>   since the first time i saw her
> i loved her style, her sense of oneness,
> and her sense of creativity.
> as time goes by i look at her as a person.
> someone i can look up to.
>   i find her a positive role model for both
> straights and gays.
> what she sings about has a positive message on us all.
> we have to be willing to listen.
> if we don't we judge for the wrong reasons.
>    i don't care what people say about her as long
> as they know i love her.
> she is my pop icon and i will always look up to her.
>
> melissa sue singhaus
>
> well i hope you guys enjoyed these poems.i enjoyed writing them on my
post.
> i love poetry. there seems to be the best way to express ones feels about
> everything that they do. missy
>

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>i have to admit that the first time i heard caramia i thought that the
>line about harriet the spy was "harry and despised"

i used to think the line was, instead of "my wannabe ..." i heard it as:
"i don't wanna be harriet the spy," and i was like -- well *don't* then.
what a difference in interpretation when i actually *read* the lyrics to
the songs!

and to the person who called it cheating -- i call it education! :)

i remembered some more today:
in secure yourself: instead of "warrior raging, have no fear,"
i heard "for your raging have no fear." what ever!

in kid fears: instead of "but they all know, now you're inside"
i heard: "big hole (or pitfall), no, now you're inside."
(can you say paranoia? fear of dark places!)

okay, one more (can you tell i braved traffic with the self-titled today?)
in center stage: instead of "the higher the leap, i said, the harder the
ground!"
i swore up and down it was: the higher the leaf "
made perfect sense at the time. leaf high in tree, falls down, goes boom.

shutting up now,
cathy -- wishing she were a nomad, indian or girl scout!

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hi! my name's melanie..and i've been looking everywhere for an indigo
girls midi file of any of their songs..especially closer to fine..i
*really* want some for my web site! :)

so..i was just wondering if anyone here might have one, or know where i
could find one..i'm not on the list so could you please write to
carrots_@hotmail.com

thanks a lot and keep smiling! :)

love melanie

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hey all!
finally we have the tree set up for the lilith fair tape that i promised
y'all a month or 2 ago.

this is an audio tape that i taped from videos: ig at lilith fair shakopee,
mn on one side and the cbc tv special "sarah and friends" with sarah, ig and
other artists, as well as interview stuff on the other side.  i added big
yellow taxi from the ppv and the punk band "sicko"s version of ctf as
filler.  it is all great quality imo.

side a
8/20/97 indigo girls lilith fair, canterbury park, shakopee mn 50 min

shed your skin, least complicated, shame on you, ghost, tried to be true,
get out the map, scooter boys (soc), galileo, water is wide (with sarah and
jewel) closer to fine (with everyone)

side b
lilith fair - sarah mclachlan and friends cbc special 50 min
(filmed in toronto 8/16 and vancouver 8/24 aired 12/5/97)

sarah - angel, jewel - near you always, sarah interview, indigo girls -
water is wide (with sarah and jewel), shawn colvin - sonny came home,
interview, meredith brooks - bitch, sarah - ice cream, interview, sheryl
crow - i shall believe, sarah - building a mystery, possession, interview,
indigo girls - closer to fine (with everyone)

filler: big yellow taxi (toronto 8/24 from ppv special) and ctf by sicko


so, how do you get this tape?  it's easy! just email your branch and either
set up a trade with them, or you can send them a 100 min tape in a sase and
they'll dub it for you!

enjoy!
lori


january
hiterj@miamiu.muohio.edu
rob

february
terrilee11@aol.com
leah

march
scorpio7@sagami.or.jp
susan

april
cicada16@aol.com
erica

may
alisont@netcom.com
alison

june
ndygotiggr@aol.com
tigger

july
jmonfort@vannet.k12.wa.us
sam

august
drusian@juno.com
heather

september
aaogilvie@aol.com
alexandra

october
kla@aloha.net
karen

november
hudsonvu@aol.com
maureen

december
cbergquist@voyager.net
chris

uk:
claudine@cableinet.co.uk
claudine

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        i have a friend who first heard 1200 curfews just after seeing
the film bound. she asked me whether the movie had been based on tangled
up in blue, cause she heard the "helped her out of a jam but i used a
little too much force" lines,  but also "we split up on a sad dark night
with the green in his vest" instead of "both agreeing it was best" and
figured that they had divided the money and skeddadled. that would make
the movie a kind of prequel to the song...once she told me her version,
i couldn't hear those lines right again!

        later,
        sarah
        spinsker@goucher.edu

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        you and me of the 10000 wars:

        "the evil eagle and divisive pride" - i thought it was a
commentary on the government

        the danielle howle/tantrums song "host for the notes"- my sister
heard  it as "hose for the nose"

        sarah
        spinsker@goucher.edu

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> i'm quite ashamed of this misheard lyric, but seeing as so many other
> people have posted theirs (some being as embarrassing as mine), i
> thought i should share.  i just recently discovered that in "joking" amy
> sings "you shook it off with a smirk and a toss" and not "you should get
> off with a smirk and a toss."  oops.

        you mean it's not?!?? as my favorite song (and not that hard to listen to)
i thought those were the right lines! i've beeen singign the wrong lyrics
to my favorite song for four years....? <:(

ian

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* amy and emily were walking out in the woods one day when they came upon
a tree that had flames shooting up all around it, but it wasn't getting
burnt.  amy turns to emily and says, "that's a pretty strange fire!"

* a theatre group was putting together a play, and the director was having
some trouble with a very inexperienced actor.  the actor didn't
understand any stage direction and the director was getting very
exaspirated.  "your actions will follow full circle 'round!  if you
move to stage right, then you need to move to stage left.  never, never
can you stay center stage!"

* one day amy was out walking in the georgia countryside and decided to
stop in and visit a farmer friend of her's.  when she got to his house,
she saw that the farmer was beating one of his chickens.  being the
animal-friendly person she is, she exlaimed, "that's no way to treat a
hen!"

* and for other indigo puns, check out the chartruce girls web pages for
lots of song parodies, some of which are extended from pun ideas.
        http://narnia.emu.edu/students/creechal.htm

:)
anna

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>i believe the correct words are..."wrapped up like a duece another runner
>in the night"...still doesn't make much sense....

i believe it refers to street racing, something like a "little duece
coupe" running against someone.  "wrapped up" is a term indicating
high rpm's or really great power.  :)

- rick

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stop send ing me this
stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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hey everyone...
i lost the original post last year bout loop tapes, but basically it is a tape
of music you like and listen to, only thing is, no indigo girls allowed.  then
everybody has a loop and they send their tape to the next person in
line...meanwhile the person behind you sends their tape your way...if you like
it you tape it for yourself, and send the original on to the person ahead of
you.    so basically we all get to hear new music and what other people
like...

so anyone interested in this email me privately with loop tape in the subject
line and i will organize this....

later
sasha

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whoever posted something about the part of sys when amy sings the unprinted
lyrics and asked what emily is singing in the background (the high pitched
part)....well, i must say i don't think that's emily. i am pretty sure it's
ulali. let me know what you think.
                                                christy :)
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and it's my thirst that brought me to the water
when i give it all up then she carries me on
and it's alright"
                        -emily saliers

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i think my all-time favorite misheard line is the one that someone posted the
last time this thread came out, from "love's recovery"

the correct line is "the whims of culture that swoop like vultures, eating us
away..."

this person (i don't remember who it was) heard "the whims of culture, the
souplike vultures"

peace, harmony and indigo,

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well, mine's kind of embarassing.....but here it goes.

when i was at camp love's recovery became my group's song (there were 8 of us)
and well, i was the last one to hear the song and i loved it , it's what
prompted me to tak eup the guitar....so anyway, i was very insure of the
lyrics but i had already learned the guitar chords and would play while my
friends would sing. only they decided to change around the words a little for
their own enjoyment. "during the time of which i speak it was hard to turn my
left butt-cheek to the blow-job insecurity." ok, mind you i was only 15 and
had no clue what i was saying......i kept singing the song like that for the
longest time before i realized that those really weren't the words....didn't
mean to say those things, it's just what i was taught.

ilana

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will the person on tape loop 4 from last summer who has my tape please contact
me?  i'd kinda like to have it back....

peace, harmony and indigo,

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i have my valentines issue to out loud down. if anyone would like a copy
e-mail me in my private box. i have asked questions fill free to answer
them and e-mail me the answers. if anyone has anything they like to
contribute pass the idea on to me. missy

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i was at my friend's cottage one weekend and we were doing a little sing along
(indigo of course) and we were jammin to least complicated. first line..."i
sit two stories above the street"...my friend keeps singing "i said sister's
above the street". i said, "what in the world are you singing?!?" so that's
our version now, it makes no sense, but hey, it's original! :)
dana

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> whoever posted something about the part of sys when amy sings the unprinted
> lyrics and asked what emily is singing in the background (the high pitched
> part)....well, i must say i don't think that's emily. i am pretty sure it's
> ulali. let me know what you think.

hello christy!
i thought it was ulali too... until i heard emily sing it in concert. what
can i say? no words to say, no words to convey... (hey, is that a song? i
can sing it, but i dont know where i took it from... i need sleep!)
see ya later,

july, who just re-discovered shed your skin... for the zillion time..

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hi guys,

this is my very first posting so please bear with me.  i just had to
respond to ian carandang's post.  i am from the philippines myself,
and i share his problem (where do i get them bootlegs?). i have been
a fan of ig for five years now.  i was introduced to them (rop)
by my friends, and i immediately fell in love with them because of the fact
that they were not well known here.  i guess the intensity of their
music, and the fact that i shared them only with a select few made
the entire listening experience so much more intense.
so far, i only have their last three studio albums (shaming, swamp o,
rop), and bootleg of nomads.  i am personally interested in looking
for a boot of their rendition of house at pooh corner (i am curious
as to how they made it sound, like what they did with romeo &
juliet).

well, i'll be posting more in the future.  if i made any big booboos
in the first posting, please let me know.

p.s.  if anybody is interested i also need more acronyms, i still
don't understand half of the mail i get from this site

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in a message dated 98-02-10 22:37:56 est, cml@mindspring.com writes:

<< whoever posted something about the part of sys when amy sings the unprinted
lyrics and asked what emily is singing in the background (the high pitched
part)....well, i must say i don't think that's emily. i am pretty sure it's
ulali. let me know what you think. >>

yeah i thought it was ulali too. and i don't understand what amy is singing in
that part either. help!
dana

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yet another country heard from...

my all-time personal favorite misheard lyric is from caroline aiken's
album, _live_at_the_attic_ - the song, "another on the rise" - which
happens to be one of my all-time favorite ca songs. [igc - emily sings
and plays guitar]

this is what *i* heard: "i abandoned god, lost and bitter / then between
ann's legs / looked inside where a single rose grew / and there i saw
love's face"

i was soooo disappointed after reading the lyrics to discover it was
really: "an abandoned garden, lost in bittersweet and queen anne's lace
/ looked inside where a single rose grew / and there i saw love's face"

i've listened to it probably more than a hundred times, and seen
caroline perform the song live a couple dozen times... if only it
weren't for that unfortunate and pesky personal pronoun: "his" - i'm
convinced that my misheard lyric would make sense and work beautifully!
;)

:o)
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u.pitre@tcu.edu writes:

<< we would be halfway to creating our own "book" of ig misheard lines.
actually that might be something that amy and emily might like to read from
the fans when we give them their birthday presents hunh? >>

this is a greatgreat idea!! i think em and amy would absolutely love a little
book of ig misheard lines...any other of you think so?

love and cinnamon skies,
tara ;)~

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dawn-michelle and i have decided to compile the lines together, and we'll
be letting you know in the next day or so who to send what lines to and all
that.  she is planning on giving them to amy and emily, since she plans on
seeing them at slam!, right dm???

anyway, that's the lowdown ;) on that right now.

later lovely peoples!

shannon

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not especially funny, but i swore that it was wax paper slipped under
the hotel room door, as opposed to something important like a fax.
hmmm, never thought i'd hear a song with that word in it...
and hammer and a nail... my roomie thought it was chin in a hand and a
buckleboast.  i thought it was a hotdog roast.  i don't even eat
hotdogs!  back to the physics homework...
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>indigo girls ?
>what do you think ?
>do they make the cut ? get "in the canon" ?
>if so, which album to you think will go down in history as
>a "great" work of popular american music ?
>why ?
>(and arguments like " because they got me through my divorce"
> don't count ;)
>just wonderin'
>:)
>claire

ok, if they're enough to make a twelve year old girl like me not listen to
puff daddy & spice girls & hanson...i think they're pretty frickin' great!

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in shame on you i thought amy was singing "let's go strobe-light trippin
in the middle of the night" instead of "road-block trippin".  i had this
weird vision of her trying to tip over a strobe light that somebody had
placed on the side of a dirt road...hmmm... 8-)

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>and yeah, for the longest time i thought it was "suck that gutter dry"
>too.

ok, so what is it?  i need to know...could someone post, i just can't
figure it out! well...i'm not exactly checking the lyrics or anything...but
it would be easier for me!

pax, celeste

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...the blowjobs of insecurity...why do i just identify with that lyric way too
much--i mean, i want that to be a song!  or a band name!  or something!

the sys thing...darn if it i can't find my cd case when i need it, but emily
definitely does it (the background vocals where you just stop breathing for a
while to better listen) live.  as for what amy's saying, am i the only one out
there that is really bad about picking up "mystery lyrics" off of recorded
songs?  i mean, i'd heard po2 an awful lot of times on so, but it wasn't until
the list thread about "make new friends" and all the other sub-threads about
girl scout camp and s'mores that i knew anything about that, and even longer
before i actually heard that song being sung in the background.

now counting the days on one hand before my great chicago adventure.  if
anyone has any great ideas for cool must-see places or things to do for next
week, please let me know (okay, if you have a job opening or apartment for
rent, even cooler, because i'm really hoping to get out of here asap, but i'd
settle for fun and interesting places to hang out while my best friend is at
work and i'm plotting the adventure of the rest of my life).

smoochie-boochies,
shelley

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i also heard "hey blue bood au fondue" instead of "hey blue blood you're
nothing new". as a blue blood ie. a brit i was confused as to why amy was
calling me cheese sauce :)

i swear it's their accents and not my ears :)

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igc:
i've been thinking it over & for me
swamp ophelia does fall into a great category.
every single note/lyric on that cd is amazing...imho.

nigc:
ani difranco in new haven,ct on 4-11-98.
i called the palace theatre & they said tickets
were not on sale yet but would be sold through
strawberries.

can someone email me privately about who/what this
is & how i can reach them?

thanks so much.
'night
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subject:      first ig experience

i hate to admit this but i had never heard the indigo girls until i was a
freshman in college.  i do have an excuse because i'm from midwest kansas
where there are no decent radio stations...

but anyway...i was with a couple of girls from my dorm and one of them
(ronda) was discussing "hammer and a nail" with her high school english
teacher (who had turned her on to the indigo girls).  the other girl and
i just sat there listening and then i said i wanted to hear this song as
soon as we got into the car.  on our way home, ronda played the song for
us and i was hooked immediately.  but the funny part is that all the
other girl (who was ronda's roommate) had to say about it was, "you
know...you play that song all the time and i always just thought it was
about building a shed."  :)
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the line is "revved up like a deuce".......looks like a w but it is really two
v's.

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i think the main thing for the ig to pass into greatness is going to be
longevity. some of the "greatest" bands are "great" simply for how long
they've been around.

another key to becoming truly great is to keep writing music like they wrote
on shed your skin. that is by far their most mature album, musically speaking.

they are bringing in fans by the hundreds, and they get younger every year. i
don't think they will have any problems which attaining greatness (since in
many of our minds they already are great) at the rate they're going.

the ig have a leg up on many of the "great" bands - the stones, aerosmith,
people like that (all the old guys!) - because they can actually sing. they
write songs that appeal to the majority of the usa - the women. not that men
don't find their songs appealing too, but you know what i'm trying to say here
without being overly sexist.

in fact, did anyone see rolling stone a few issues back where people were
writing in about their women in rock issue? people were pissed because they
left out the indigo girls. their was an editor's note saying out of all the
protest letters they received, the girls got the most. made me happy.

that's about it. it's way too early...
kasey

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there's this guy in the lobby of the student center at my school selling
cd's, videos and cassettes.  he's got a cd called uptown girls  (or
something really close to that) that looks legit, but it's $25.  is this
as much of a ripoff as i think it is?  he's also got a video of a
concert in florida (aug 94, i think)  is this ok to buy?  or is it a
boot like i'm thinking it is, in which case i shouldn't buy it.  the
video is $15.  thanks for your help.
jill

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hey y'all,

this is a "great" thread and has really gotten me thinking.  i agree that it
is hard to pick one ig album and declare it a classic, like joni mitchell's
blue, for example.  but so much of the girls' power and appeal comes from
their live performances that 1200 curfews certainly stands as a classic
example of the concert album genre is the one that i never tire of.  perhaps
it will stand the test of the time as the "best of the best"!

peace,

pam

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in a message dated 98-02-10 19:55:01 est, you write:

<< anyone know what milagro is? >>

milagro is the spanish word for miracle.  in mexico, and perhaps in other
countries as well, people leave small objects, like the charms on a charm
bracelet almost, at altars.  these objects are accompanied either by prayers
of thanksgiving, for healing perhaps, or prayers of petition.  so a charm
might be a small hand or other body part for example and the prayer is
attached in significance to the image.  i have a necklace of milagros and they
are all animals.  if anyone has any more info on this religious practice,
please let me know.  i would love to hear it.

peace,

pam

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it's "suck that good earth dry" (i was just curious last night, and
i checked the lyrics....)

john.


peppermint patty : "happiness is a warm puppy, a b plus..."

marcie : "and kind friends"

(charlie brown and snoopy show)

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here's mine:

i just realized this morning, listening to a diferent version of are you out
there, that the lines that i thought were: "politics or love of music, ...,
empty verses major labels" were actually: "politics of love and music, ...,
indie. versus major labels"

i actually like the empty verses part! :)

anne

p.s. i was just about to post this when i read someone else's post which had
this quoted at the end: << "i know i'm small in a way but i know i'm strong
and it's my thirst that brought me to the water
when i give it all up then she carries me on
and it's alright" >>

i thought that this was "i know i'm squandered away, but i know i'm strong..."
i've been shouting this out at concerts!!!  oops!

anne

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hello my dear list,
   i am alive, i know you all missed my enlightening posts, but my classes are impossible
this semester...so anyway, i love the song reunion, and can't wait to drive to my high
school reunion with this blasting from my car stereo...but what the heck are "negligent
vendors"?  i do have the lyrics right, i think...she's not saying "negligee senders" or
something?  and as far as the indigos greatness goes, i think they are great.  i just
think emily is one of the greatest songwriters of our age, and i appreciate her talent so
much more since i've started to write my own songs.  the woman is absolutely brilliant -
her chord progressions, and experiments with alternate tuning, and her skill on the
guitar, and the way the words fit with the music so perfectly...i don't think it gets
much better. yes, bob dylan is better, yes, joni mitchell is better, but imho, emily is
up there.  anyway,
                          stephanie

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i still do not know, though it's late in the hour"
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in a message dated 2/11/98 1:19:34 pm, mmedido@aol.com wrote:

<<<<take catie curtis for example...good, but not "great" .
dar williams ..very very good...not "great"
ani di franco ... possibly "great".
indigo girls ?
what do you think ?>>

this is the best thread in a while, thanks binkles!

before i get to the ig part, let me say that i agree with her binkyness about
caties curtis & ani difranco, but <me ducking> what's the deal with dar
williams???  i've listened... i've seen her live.  she has a few decent songs,
but "very very good"???  uh, no.  my .02...

as fer ig...  i would put them up there as great, not because i'm biased,
which i am, but because of the insightful lyrics, catchy melodies and
incredible harmonies.  going back to earlier work doesn't seem dated, and
that's what makes it great.

back to lurkdom...
dee>>

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---ashley darnelias <ashley645@aol.com> wrote:
>
> stop send ing me this
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stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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this only works if you subscribed by sending a message to the list
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otherwise, you need to use the instructions here:

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christy said:
>whoever posted something about the part of sys when amy sings the unprinted
>lyrics and asked what emily is singing in the background (the high pitched
>part)....well, i must say i don't think that's emily. i am pretty sure it's
>ulali. let me know what you think.

it *is* emily--
when they sang sys at the la show, i was watching emily with my binoculars,
and it was definitely her singing that high (and ulali wasn't there that
night).  they could have been using some funky sound thing, but her lips
were moving, and i swear it was her.  either that, or she's really good at
pretending.  i was amazed. :)
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---jill chambers <hsoows@hotmail.com> wrote:
>a cd called uptown girls  (or something really close to that) that
>looks legit, but it's $25.
>he's also got a video of a
> concert in florida (aug 94, i think)  is this ok to buy?  or is it a
> boot like i'm thinking it is, in which case i shouldn't buy it.  the
> video is $15.  thanks for your help.

the video is a bootleg.  the cd is even worse -- pirated from the
legitimate "live at the uptown lounge" video.
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julie wrote,   "no words to say, no words to convey... (hey, is that a
song? )
insert me singing/finishing this line with, . . . this feeling inside, i
have for you"

yes it is -- it is a tracy chapman song.

anyway, i wanted to comment on the mr. limes thread -- sarah recently posted
about a danielle howle / tantrums song and wrote:

the danielle howle/tantrums song "host for the notes"- my sister
heard  it as "hose for the nose"

well i first saw and heard danielle howle at the l.a show and although i
eventually figured out what she was saying i laughed hard and told my friend
it sounded like  she was singing "i am a host for the nodes"

somehow this was appropriate to me as i just could not get into her various
styles, her quirky almost obnoxious commentary, or her voice.  please
remember folks -- this is just my humble opinion-- i just didn't care for
her much and perhaps after all the positive talk on the list i just expected
more.  i was disappointed for sure and i would be interested to know what it
is that that many of you find so appealing about her.  lyrically and vocally
she just doesn't seem to to have what many other artists have.  i for one
would have much rather had kristen hall open show -- having her appear as a
guest was great but why danielle when you could have kristen :-)

speaking of kristen, anyone know if she plays around the la area????  i
assume she must since she lives here now.  i would love to catch her playing
somewhere.  anyone know -- wanna go??

welcome back bert!  he might not tell you, but the reason he used to sign
his posts "let it grow" is because it is his 'let it grow' shirt that amy
has on in the watershed video right???

yay for old and new listees alike!  take care y'all!

cami

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hey all...

just wondering if anyone knows what kelly hogan is up to.  i know she
showed up at the ig's concert in chicago not too long ago, and i heard
she moved there for good, but is she still singing or anything?  i love "the whistle only dogs can hear"
and the jody grind stuff..just wondering if there was anything new in the works
for her.

thanks!
amy k

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hey everyone!

i want to thank elizabeth, tony (hey tony!!!!!! sorry i haven't written
in such a long time.), and everyone else that is stepping forward to
help organize this gift to amy.  when i said that i would do some of the
background work until everything is established i didn't expect my life
to be as chaotic as it has been lately.  i still have a list of people
who have written to me expressing interest in the project so whenever a
project magnager is chosen, please write to me ad i will forward the
list onto you.

thanks so much for everyone's enthusiasm about this project!!!

peace,
mandi

p.s.  i'm all for the chiapas project!

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hey everyone,

here's the deal: i have a friend who *may* possibly want to sell
three tickets to the first (sold out) sydney ig show on thursday
february 26.  i think she said the tickets are something like
13th row amy side...

would anybody out there be interested in buying these tickets,
provided my friend can't use them?  i won't know for a couple of
days whether she'll want to sell for sure or not, but i told her
i'd ask around in the meantime.  they'd be going for something
like $48 each, which is face value + ticketmaster booking fee.

mail me privately if you'd be interested in any or all of these
tickets, and i'll let you in on what little info i have...

thanks,
sherlyn
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the line i kept messing up in  the language or the kiss was, "i said to you,
the one gift which i'd adore" i always heard,   " i said to you go and get a
china doll "  kinda made sense what with the next line having to do with
unwrapping a package <g>


karen

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are the ig good or great?

  to answer almost implies religion, but in my estimate they are
  great.  you only need to see them live *one time* to be sure.
  their concert performance removes all doubt.  anyone who can
  perform that well with that energy is there.

  i don't know how many listees play guitar (or any instrument)
  but it is really hard to sing well and play well at the same
  time, let alone harmonize, dance, rock, have political messages,
  anticipate, hedge, sway, read fan's posters, laugh, enter auto-
  pilot mode and really get deep into the music, etc, etc, etc.

yes, the ig are great.

~~~~~          _o_
|o|  all     _/ | \_               --ghost--             |o|
|o| things      |     "...and dance the edge of sanity / |o|
|o| indigo     / \     i've never been this close / in   |o|
|o| - rick   _/   \_   love with your ghost" - emily     |o|

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wow sharing is fun!

my first ig experience was probably "3 hits" which at first i thought was
called "poetry in motion" and i was struck by their great harmonies and
smooth diction (dictation?), the way they pronounce their words! i had
just started hanging around with a bunch of ig fanatics and they played
me ig songs for ages. but it wasn't until i heard ctf that i just had to grab
my guitar and learn that song (it doesn't sound half bad either except
i need an a or e to harmonise with).
and now, well im a convert, so much so that i'll be going to my 1st ig
concert in melbourne on the 21st, yah! we are flying over from little ol'
new zealand to go to aussie for 5 concerts in two 1/3 weeks, its a
mission, and i feel im up for the challenge!

anyway, i thought id sure that with yah'll,
lynda

ps isnt it "suck that girdle dry...?"

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in a message dated 98-02-11 10:35:30 est, us@ecis.com writes:

<< >and yeah, for the longest time i thought it was "suck that gutter dry"
>too.

ok, so what is it?  i need to know...could someone post, i just can't
figure it out! well...i'm not exactly checking the lyrics or anything...but
it would be easier for me!

pax, celeste
  >>

i'm pretty sure it's "suck that good earth dry"  i thought it was gutter too,
but i looked at the lyrics, and i think that's it.
dana

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we (shannon and dawn-michelle) are going to be collecting your misheard lines,
titles and any puns to be compiled into a little "book" to be given to anyone
who requests it and to amy and emily.

here are the directions to sending in your entry...
1. all entries must be sent with the subject heading "misheard lyric entry"
2. send all entries that are from
              "strange fire", "n*i*s", and "swamp ophelia"
                       plus any cover that ig has done to
                        shannon:  bcmassga@bluffton.edu
3. send all entries that are from
       "indigo girls", "rites of passage" and "shaming of the sun"
                plus any misheard title or any pun to
       dawn-michelle:  w00ds0ng@aol.com  (all "o"s are zeros)
4. include the misheard line plus the actual line
5. make the entry short. the anecdotes are very funny, but don't write a book
         about 5 lines will do per entry.
6. send in as many entries as you can. we want to gives copies of the
compilation    out to anyone on the list who wants one and to amy and emily.
7. entries will be accepted until next wednesday (feb 18th).

thanks!!!!!
    dawn-michelle & shannon

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  i thought the lyrics in language or the kiss were "you told me no one
gets to try the door, the package of the next ten years unfolding" i have
so many misheard lyrics, i probably can't even begin to tell you all of
them.

k-bye!
kristi
"do or do not, there is no try"
              --yoda

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ok, i just made the discovery of "how to post", so here you are.  it is "and
that same sun that warms your heart will suck that good earth dry"!  :)   well
there we have it.  one more introduction of myself to my fellow indiglo
lovers!  have a beautiful day!   trooper

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hey folks,

i've included a forward below from another mailing list...

btw, it looks like the tickets i posted about before are
gone.  but, if you wanted to buy a ninth row ticket for the
ig show in canberra on march 6, let me know...

oh, and i have one more pun:

amy's family is having a bonfire barbeque out on the beach
one autumn evening.  someone accidentally spills alcohol
all over amy's brother.  the wind is a bit chilly so he
goes over to sit next to the fire.  it's late, so he falls
asleep... awhile later he wakes up with amy yelling at him
and beating at his clothes.  "wha...?" he says.  "was i on
fire... from the beers?"  "no," replies amy.  "you were
only smokin', brother..."

oh man i need more coffee... *grin*
sherlyn
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love, and if i'm lucky, once - just once - the dream will drop to the
floor and shatter in shards of silence.  but i will see, i will see,
in the pattern of the pieces i will see... something.  this will,
this will, this will happen..."                - peter mulvey

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: wed, 11 feb 1998 16:33:34 -0500 (est)
from: rachel <rkb200@is5.nyu.edu>
to: fumbling towards ecstasy <fte@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au>
cc: ecto <ecto@jane.smoe.org>
subject: vonda shepard/emily saliers

rocktropolis allstar daily music news

february 10, 1998

http://www.allstarmag.com

indigo girls' emily saliers records with vonda shepard

  vonda shepard, the singer/ songwriter who penned the theme song to ally
mcbeal and performs regularly in the show, is slated to enter a los angeles
studio in the next few weeks to record a duet with emily saliers, one half of
the indigo girls.

  shepard has toured with the girls, and recently joined them onstage in los
angeles. (allstar, feb. 2)

  the song, "baby don't you break my heart now," will appear on shepard's next
album on a not- yet- announced major label. with the success of ally mcbeal
and the loads of press the singer has received (entertainment weekly, tv
guide, usa today, and los angeles times to name a few), shepard's been the
subject of a major- label bidding war lately.

  negotiations are also underway for an ally mcbeal soundtrack, which will
feature all songs performed by shepard. shepard's latest album -- her third
release -- it's good, eve, was released in late 1996 on the los angeles- based
indie label, vesper alley. her song "searchin' my soul," from her 1992
release, the radical light, is the song that's used as the theme to the hot
fox show.

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<<<<take catie curtis for example...good, but not "great" .
dar williams ..very very good...not "great"
ani di franco ... possibly "great".
indigo girls ?
what do you think ?>>


catie in my opinion is a little better than good...at least give her a very
good...if you don't think she's very good, then you haven't heard her song
"dandelion"

dar gets a very good...

ani gets a definite great (who else comes up with as original lyrics as her?)

and the indigo girls get a great...

emily is an awesome songwriter

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>  vonda shepard, the singer/ songwriter who penned the theme song to ally
>mcbeal and performs regularly in the show, is slated to enter a los angeles
>studio in the next few weeks to record a duet with emily saliers, one half of
>the indigo girls.
>
>  shepard has toured with the girls, and recently joined them onstage in los
>angeles. (allstar, feb. 2)
>
>  the song, "baby don't you break my heart now," will appear on shepard's next
>album on a not- yet- announced major label.

so, is the song really called "baby don't you break my heart now"?  it
seems like they sing "baby don't you break my heart slow"  or "...so".
does anybody know for sure?  i kind of need to know for the warfield tree.
thanks,
leslie

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date:         wed, 11 feb 1998 18:40:37 -0500
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from:         chrisy muhler <remlover11@aol.com>
subject:      where were you?

i had just came home from somewhere and came inside the back door. i was only
in 4th or 5th grade. my older sister was listening to romeo and juliet and i
remember coming in asking who was singing, and then saying "she sounds like a
man". (sorry amy, shame on me) regardless of what i thought, i ended up
taking her tape and listening to it on my walkman all night and that was the
beginning. .. .

chrisy

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 10 feb 1998 - special issue

i have to many misheard lyrics to type but this is one really bad one
in nashville

"i fell on my knees to kiss your land. . . you are so far down. ."

i thought it was
"i fell on my knees to kiss your lambs. . . you are so far down. . "

i just figured the real lyrics out reactly.


chrisy

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thanks to everyone who has posted their misheard lyrics! they are absolutely
hilarious! we are rolling on the floor in laughter over here- you kind friends
are great for posting them (even though it can be embarassing)

i hope everyone noticed the nice offer from our fellow listee to compile them
all. i agree, a&e would get as big a laugh out of them as we are. here's what
we've had so far-

...i ate myself a boar...
...i offer up a bottle of glue...
...screwed up boys and argentinians...
...i know i'm squandered away, but i know i'm strong...
...blowjobs of insecurity [oh, goddess, no!]...
...wax paper slipped under the hotel room door...
...the whims of culture, the souplike vultures...
...the evil eagles and divisive pride...
...you should get off with a smirk and a toss...
...i don't want to be harry and despised...
...i killed 5 prarie dogs and an arachnid...
...empty cans of chardonnay...
...i ate myself some s'mores...
...i ate myself a moor...
...i ache myself amour...
...i ate myself some more...
...you told me if i had my way i'd be bald...
...i'm your girl, swallow me...
...dinner bell and ringdings...
...anyhoo, my being ever reached that kind of height...
...spirocidal jew...
...in the trunk i've packed a tooley suitcase...
...now the pork and lark is empty...
...suck that udder dry...
...but the question drowns and hits us to the tee...
...up on the waterbed...
...released from circles garden-type...
...we split up on a cold, dark night, bowling green in his vest...
...let's put on some shoes, in the morning, do little all day...
...strobe-light trippin in the middle of the night...
....
oh my, i'm laughing all over again! these are so hilarious, and when you
consider how they'd sound in the actual song, especially if it's a serious
song. my favorite- dead man's hill misquote about the ringdings!

these are all the posts i could find that had been made to the list the past
few days before our fellow listees offered to compile them. now if you, like
me, haven't mustered the courage to admit to your miss herd lyrics, do it now
privately to:
     bcmassga@bluffton.edu

don't forget to put mr. lime's in the subject line.

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reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      i think i got a marshamallow in each ear

--- amy wrote:
in shame on you i thought amy was singing "let's go strobe-light trippin
in the middle of the night" instead of "road-block trippin"
--- end of quote ---

thats nuttiness amy, i thought it was "let's go robot trippin' in the middle of
the night" and i was conjuring up all these images of amy whoopin some r2d2
ass.... ;)

in another duh moment, during "cut it out"  i heard amy say " sittin in
darlin's wee wee "  but i knew it couldn't be right

heh heh

sus

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hello y'all
okay, so i am once again starting my hunt for seattle boots.  but this
time i need something very specific.  on sunday, july 13, 1997 at the
pier,between shed your skin and everything in its own time, amy and
emily had this interesting conversation relating to god. unfortunately
my sister and i were on the street and were unable to hear what they
said.  we caught tidbits but none of our versions match.  we really
wanted to find a boot of it.  so my question is, does anyone have a boot
of this show?  or know anyone with one?  i would be forever grateful!
thank you, thank you, thank you!
peace and indigo,
becca
indigo_24@hotmail.com

p.s. someone responded a long time ago (sorry, i forget your name) to my
plea for seattle boots.  your tapes were all 3 nights scrambled
together.  maybe you have these 2 songs and conversation? :)

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> so, is the song really called "baby don't you break my heart now"?  it
> seems like they sing "baby don't you break my heart slow"  or "...so".
> does anybody know for sure?  i kind of need to know for the warfield tree.
> thanks,
> leslie
>

the girls kept referring to it as just "baby" during sound check and the show
in la -- the actual lyric is "baby don't you break my heart *slow*" not "now".
i call it "don't break my heart slow."  anyone else?

*** alert ***
remember freedom to marry day tomorrow!! tie ribbons around everything.
http://www.lambdalegal.org/cgi-bin/pages/documents/record?record=182
*************

also,  attending a peaceful protest for chiapas got me thinking about how
similar it was to waiting for indigo girls general admission shows, minus all
the signs -- seems like it wouldn't take much to turn the waiting  into a sit-in
for
ig-backed causes!  they practically are anyhow, from the things i've heard
yelled at us from passing cars.  thoughts?

elizabeth, as ever, from denver

*peace*  *love*  *wallace & gromit*

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i used to be on here but lots of messed up computer stuff...it's been
months and months but i'm glad to be back! you are all very funny...with
your misheard lyrics and whatnot. my roommate just told me she used to
think amy was saying "screwed up boys and argentinians..."
heehee...mumbling girls leave much to the imagination. i think that
vonda shepard post is so great! ever heard her song "maryland"? it's
great. just knowing they're leaving the country makes me sad...oh and i
give catie curtis a very good, dar and ani a great and amy and emily an
off the scale rating. no one i've ever encountered, in music or
otherwise, speaks so beautifully, honestly and candidly as the girls.
human prodigies in every sense. love to all...

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i just realized something -- and it's so damned funny i just had to
share. :)
i read terrilee's post -- she listed all of the lines that she could
compile thus far -- think about it....some of the original posts that
those were included in, i didn't read -- it's just funny when you
realize that you can see these fu**ed up lyrics and still know the
song...title and all...with just like 5 or 6 words (half of them bein'
wrong!)...i dunno, that just tells you how well we know our indigo
girls. :) that's neat. :)

my fave -- "you told me if i had my way i'd be bald..." :) damn that's
good.  it reminds me of a joke that shannon and i used to have...waaaay
back we read something somewhere about how "touch me fall" was *really*
about the fact that amy didn't wanna be bald by herself....

"it's not worth it, if you do-o-o-on't" (shave your head and be bald
                                         like me)
"i am crying" (cuz i'm bald)

we laughed about that for hours....i'm still trying to figure it out
though...was that a rip on her short haircut or what?!  i thought it was
cute.....she's got a pretty face so she can get away with it. :)
anybody know where we might have found that?!  i still don't know how we
stumbled upon it. :)  it was hilarious though......

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hey folks,

bethany said:
> my fave -- "you told me if i had my way i'd be bald..." :) damn that's
> good.  it reminds me of a joke that shannon and i used to have...waaaay
> back we read something somewhere about how "touch me fall" was *really*
> about the fact that amy didn't wanna be bald by herself....

that was actually written by our very own former listmember
lorinda wright... must have been back in 1995 or so.  sadly
lorinda doesn't have time to keep up with the list anymore
but i do try to keep her vaguely up to date with what's
going on around here. :)

> we laughed about that for hours....i'm still trying to figure it out
> though...was that a rip on her short haircut or what?!  i thought it was

actually it refers to the fact that amy shaved her head
back sometime between rop and so... ha.

:)
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one time a friend and i were sitting around listening to "ghost" and when
emily sang "there's a letter on the desktop that i dug out of a drawer" he
heard "there's a letter on the desktop that i dug out of a troll"...how he
came up with that one i'll never know...

amy (picturing a pickaxe-wielding emily chasing some poor little poofy
pink haired troll...)

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      a long, long time ago i thought it was

"and emtyness brings solace to us all"    (world falls)

mb

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at 11:13 pm 2/10/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>indigo girls ?
>>what do you think ?
>>do they make the cut ? get "in the canon" ?
>>if so, which album to you think will go down in history as
>>a "great" work of popular american music ?
>>why ?
>>(and arguments like " because they got me through my divorce"
>> don't count ;)
>>just wonderin'
>>:)
>>claire

>ok, if they're enough to make a twelve year old girl like me not listen to
>puff daddy & spice girls & hanson...i think they're pretty frickin' great!


oh, an *album*?...oops...well, there's no question about *them* being
great, but as for an album, i'd hafta say rop or so...prolly rop...

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hey yall
this is just for you anya...i will expect lunch tomorrow....
anyways, so i just wanted to tell everyone about my indigo moment...in all my
"specialness".  so i am in basketball practice and i have to pee so bad, and
ya know i will get out of warm up drills, so i go to the locker room to go to
the bathroom...now you know i had to go real bad cause going to the bathroom
in our locker room is an experience in itself.   so as i am going to the
bathroom, i look down and on the floor there is all this cleaning supply stuff
(its just for decoration, they dont really use it)  and in huge letters it
says indigo on the label....so of course i am like, "oh wow...indigo..."  then
i realize that no one else in the gym is gonna care.   that is how you know
you are a little outta control, i was in the bathroom and i have an indigo
moment... some things never cease to amase me... off to watch ellen...

peace
sasha

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instead of what lyrics? this sounds more like the last line from hand me
downs..."and emptyness brings fullness and loss of love brings wholeness to
us all"

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> date: wednesday, february 11, 1998 10:17 pm
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>       a long, long time ago i thought it was
>
> "and emtyness brings solace to us all"    (world falls)
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at 04:20 pm 2/11/98 est, you wrote:
>>
>>ok, if they're enough to make a twelve year old girl like me not listen
>to
>>puff daddy & spice girls & hanson...i think they're pretty frickin'
>great!
>>
>boy o boy, you sure are pushing that 12 yr old thing....

ok...i wondered if it was too much...i'll stop now...:)

pax, celeste

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i always thought that when emily sang "i know i'm small in a way, but i
know i'm strong" she was really saying, "i know i'm small and weak but i
know i'm strong" and you know, i thought that worked anyway. like maybe she
was physically weak but she had inner strength. sometimes the misheard
lyrics make good sense. :-)

helen

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hi

just wondering if anyone out there has thoughts about what amy is referring
to in scooter boys when she says 'crying about my own virginity..." i
really don't think she's referring to literal virginity here. i think it's
about some form of purity but i can't take it further than that....any
thoughts?

helen

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> * and for other indigo puns, check out the chartruce girls web pages for
> lots of song parodies, some of which are extended from pun ideas.
>         http://narnia.emu.edu/students/creechal.htm

oops!  that should be http://narnia.emu.edu/students/creechal/parodies.htm

sorry!

:)
anna

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in a message dated 98-02-11 14:28:59 est, dee said

<<  what's the deal with dar
williams???  i've listened... i've seen her live.  she has a few decent
songs,
but "very very good"???  uh, no.  my .02. >>

wow i was kind of surprised to see this !  i love dar (these sounds is one of
my favorite songs right now) and i think her song writing is right up there
with joni and joan, amy and emily.  i figured anybody who liked the girls
would love her - how do the rest of you feel about dar?  please reply in
private if you would.

tanks

bonnie

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ig dream:
this evening at dinner, one of my roommates told me that she had a dream
last night in which i introduced her to the indigo girls because they were
really good friends of mine.  i think that i may have "gushed" just a
little too much about them over the last year that we've lived
together....

"now i walk in beauty":
this week, pamela warrick smith has been working with the two choirs at my
school to get ready for a concert we did this evening.  pamela is an
incredible singer and taught all of the songs from memory (four parts and
everything!).  one song was a native american song called "now i walk in
beauty", which is what emily sings at the end of jonas & ezekiel.  it was
really neat to be singing this song with so many people!  we did it in a
round divided up by section (ie alto, bass, soprano, tenor).  very
beautiful.  at one point, a fellow ig fan turned around and gave me this
look like, "hey, i know this song!"  made me grin for a while.

:)
anna

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alrightie, this one i think was the best one by far...again, we only had
the live version, so this was based on that!

instead of "i'm still not right" we thought that emily said "i'm still my
bride"!!!!! :)  how retarded is that?!  you know, it didn't make any
sense...i know there is a saying "i'm really dating myself", but i
thought that was maybe takin' it a bit too far! ;)  geezie, and you know,
compared to others ig ennunciate very clearly, yet still we don't get
it....!  don't even start me on what i thought the words to stayin' alive
by the bee gees were....woah baby! ;)

love,
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>so, is the song really called "baby don't you break my heart now"?  it
>seems like they sing "baby don't you break my heart slow"  or "...so".
>does anybody know for sure?  i kind of need to know for the warfield tree.

according to the setlist posted for the girls' upcoming austin city limits,
where they sing this very tune with ms. shepard, it's called:
baby don't you break my heart slow.

cathy -- can't wait to hear it instead of hearing all you wonderful people
raving about it!!!!!

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i always took this to be virginity as a symbol of our societies values.

"scooter boys and argentintinians, europe shed the bool of the indians, here i
sit in the land of plenty crying about my own virginity."

america now is the land of plenty.  our concerns are not with putting food on
our table - as a society- but with the other less essential parts to survival.
perhaps virginity is purity or innocence to the evils that took place here
"europe shed the..."or the evils that still take place here or elsewhere.
i originally thought though of virginity almost being a selfish thing that we
worry about.  we are so privilaged to be able to place value on something as
incidental as our virginity
i haven't really thought this all the way through....and i really need to be
writing a paper on antigone now...but i am curious as well.  i certainly do
not claim to know exactly what is going on in this song.
jennifer

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i was just listening to this song today, and i was wondering what
people's interpretations were.

thanks!

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ok, here's a good mystery lyric question for you all....i've been dying to
know who sings the middle portion of "123". the voice is ethereal and sort
of sung away from the microphone. for the life of me, it does not sound
like amy or em...can anyone help? thanks!

                                                        christy :)


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and it's my thirst that brought me to the water
when i give it all up then she carries me on
and it's alright"
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to me, it sounds like my relationship with my father, which is not a good
one by any stretch of the imagination, but we sill have this bond that can
make me very emotional and worked up and such over things involving him.
anyways, i think this is the basic gist of the song, that a relationship
that is bad (10000 wars) can still have such an emotional hold on a person
(i see my eyes in your eyes in my eyes, clear water)  and because of that,
she wants to clear things up and looks forward to a day when the wars are
behind them (my sights set on zion.)  any thoughts???

alisa, who lists this song as one of her favorites

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so...that was the igc...kinda funny.  after licking carpet the fab four
stan said "...i got an...indiglo girls cd.  the guy at the record stor
said it was perfect."  the ctf knockoff was "i woke very early 1 sunday
morn..." and thats all i could make out.
crazy.
carol

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hi,
     so how many caught the new south park tonight?  the kids have a
substitute teacher named miss ellen.  they all have the hots for her and
ask chef how they can get with her.  chef tells them that they can't
because she's a lesbian and she only like other lesbians.  so the kids
attempt to become lesbians.  stan walks into cartman's house and says, "i
got an indiglo girls cd.  the guy at the record store said it would be
perfect."  they than begin playing the cd with a parodied version of ctf.
i couldn't stop laughing!  they're going to replay the episode at
midnight for any that missed it!  ig os now part of the hippest tv show
around.  kick ass!

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the south park with the ig reference was just on...it will be on again this
weekend...

if anybody cares...

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>i was just listening to this song today, and i was wondering what
>people's interpretations were.


i am just as confused as you are on this song, but i do want to mention the
incredible irony of the situation here. my fellow listee friend and i were
sitting in the flying biscuit tonight discussing the meaning of this very
song over dinner. (of course, nothing came of it...) but i just wanted to
share this with you all..thanks! :)


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hey all--

i was just watching south park and it was the one that included the indigo
girls, in an indirect sort of way.  the boys all wanted to become lesbians,
because their substitute teacher is one, so stan goes out and buys an
"indiglo girls" cd.  i sort of missed the song that they played.  i know
that it wasn't an ig song, but i didn't hear it enough to figure out if it
was a spoof on one of them.  if anyone knows, i would love to know!

laura

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christy lynch <cml@mindspring.com> wrote:

> ok, here's a good mystery lyric question for you all....i've been
> dying to know who sings the middle portion of "123". the voice is
> ethereal and sort of sung away from the microphone. for the life of
> me, it does not sound like amy or em...can anyone help? thanks!

chris mcguire, formerly of ellen james society - the group which
co-wrote the song with amy and performs it with ig on the album.

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did anyone else have trouble e-mailing august e-mail account
on that tree?

drusian@juno.com was returned unknown address.  :(  can anyone
help me?

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okay, here're a few of mine:
--"clearing words from a huddle" from hammer and a nail.  i actually had
to go look this one up. (the real lyric being "clearing webs from a
hovel" -- i really like mine better. =)
--also from n*i*s, "superstars of motor nations".  (from 1-2-3).  this, of
course, being a logical lyric, i didn't actually realize until today that
it was wrong. oy. ;)
--"rattling glass on the bottom of my feet", from joking.  sounded
painful.

--ariel
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        can you say, "picabo street -- gold medal!!!"?

she bad!!!!

t.

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hi! :o)

        i tried mailing the boot tree person of my month for the lilith
boot, but they said that they don't have it?! anyways..would someone who
has this boot please mail me? i'd love to get a copy of it and i have stuff
to trade. :o)

                                                                -heather

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hey guys,

i'm just speaking my opinion here so no one take this the wrong way but...

the misheard lyrics thread was pretty neat at first but now i'm getting a
"misheard lyrics" message at as rate of about 2 a minute.  i think it's
really humorous discussion, but a couple of great listees have volunteered
to complie all of them.  i would like to suggest that we all start sending
our misheard lyrics to them and then the people who are interested in
reading them can get the compilation  i'm not trying to run the list, but
i've been deleting about 40 messages every time i turn on the computer.

i just think it's getting old.  nothing personal, but i gotta believe some
people are with me on this.

thanks a lot,
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i had always just song along with this line and never thought about it until
the great woods show -- i've been waiting since then for the discussion to
come up, so thanks  for starting it.

watching amy's face as she sang it made something click with me.  i think she
is singing about being gay -- about how so much of her life is talking about
her sexuality and being out and how people look up to her for that -- and when
she sat down and compared the trials of being gay to the trials of opressed
people in other countries, what she has overcome no longer seemed as terrible.

to break it down, "here i am in the land of plenty..."  says to me that she
sees herself distant from those in other countries -- not just because we have
more microwaves and land rovers, but because we (for the most part) do not
have to worry about our homes, our families or our lives being taken from us
at any moment.  "crying about my own virginity."  i don't see this line as
representing america or americans, i see it as being painfully personal.

now, i'm not saying that gay people never "lose their virginity" or that the
trials of a gay person (amy or otherwise) are insignificant in any way (nor do
i think amy is saying that).  but when i stood there watching her that night,
repeating the line over and over, overflowing with emotion, i just knew it was
more personal than i had thought before.

those are my thoughts... anyone ever think the same or differently?

kevin s. minoli

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in a message dated 98-02-11 20:37:55 est, elizabeth.nitz@evolving.com writes:

<<
> so, is the song really called "baby don't you break my heart now"?  it
> seems like they sing "baby don't you break my heart slow"  or "...so".
> does anybody know for sure?  i kind of need to know for the warfield tree.
> thanks,
> leslie >>


after hearing emily perform this with vonda i went and bought the cd.  it is
called "baby don'y you break my heart slow."  great song!

dena

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i posted this sometime after sots first came out, but it still makes me
laugh so i'll repeat.  a friend of mine was surprised at the change in
emily's attitude on sots; she wondered why e & her friend would want to
"give the finger to those we pass on the way outta town."

around this same time a few folks posted that they thought a said, "hey. mom
i'm a rock star."  i laugh out loud whenever i think of that one, too.
sometimes i'll be alone when i do and people will look at me funny. :)
lisa


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>the line is "revved up like a deuce".......looks like a w but it is really two
v's.

no, i swear i've seen it in print, on bruce springsteen's album cover, saying "cut loose like a goose".  true, what manfred mann sings doesn't sound much like that, but maybe he misheard the lyrics himself!

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way back in january, nicola nelson wrote:
note: it's so nice to feel the list mellowing out a bit, easing up,
quieting itself... i don't know about anybody else, but i find it hard
to face my "in-box" knowing that a substantial portion of the messages
are apt to contain hostile barbs and sharp stones being flung,
willy-nilly, back and forth.  that stuff doesn't feel ig-ish at all.

i totally agree, except for that part about "hostile barbs"!  ;)  twink!, your barb isn't hostile, is she?

barb, who is never hostile, at least not in public

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again, in "caramia" i thought emily was singing "you used to mock me,
sometimes when i was on "later".....as in "later" the late-late night nbc
talk show that starred greg kinnear then cindy crawford. then i was
thinking, "wow, did she really appear there?" which got me thinking then,
that have the girls ever appeared on any talk show as a guest/musical
performer? on leno? letterman? conan? if so, when? and how were they?

        you would think a group with such a dedicated fan base (their albuma
always debut in the toip ten, isn't that enough for insiders??) the would
get more mainstream attention.......

just thinking...

ian

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can anyone please tell me when south park (the ig one) will be on again
this weekend?  thanks!

:-) karen

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on leno? letterman? conan? if so, when? and how were they?
>
>         you would think a group with such a dedicated fan base (their
albuma
> always debut in the toip ten, isn't that enough for insiders??) the would
> get more mainstream attention.......
>
yes...one would think so...and they have appeared numerous times on
letterman (he is or was a big fan of theirs)  i can recall galileo, touch
me fall, and shame on you all on letterman, but i'm sure they've been on
more than three times...they we're also on rosie last year doing soy...i
don't know about leno, never watch it.  i'm sure there is a completeist
here somewhere who can tell us which talk shows they have been on and how
many times!!!

kc1

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i didn't really think about the "crying about my own virginity" line in
scooter boys much the first couple of months i listened to shaming.  but
later, i started thinking of it in the same context as dgtgag and cut it out,
that by "virginity", amy is referring to the loss of her relationship, and how
minor that is compared to the atrocities going on all over the world, but
still she's crying about it.

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>      so how many caught the new south park tonight?  the kids have a
> substitute teacher named miss ellen.  they all have the hots for her and
> ask chef how they can get with her.  chef tells them that they can't
> because she's a lesbian and she only like other lesbians.  so the kids
> attempt to become lesbians.  stan walks into cartman's house and says, "i
> got an indiglo girls cd.  the guy at the record store said it would be
> perfect."  they than begin playing the cd with a parodied version of ctf.
>  i couldn't stop laughing!  they're going to replay the episode at
> midnight for any that missed it!  ig os now part of the hippest tv show
> around.  kick ass!

        ooo! ooo! ooo! i've heard soooooo much about south park, and i just know
that my twisted sense of humor would love it. is anyone willing to tape it
(along with other episodes) and mail it to me? i can make it worth your
while, if that's what it takes. please e-mail me privately if you're
willing to help.

ian

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greetings,

i think who ever came up with miss heard lyrics and puns deserves a
humanitarian award.  i have felt a great sense of unity among listees
because of these threads.  i love all the funny stuff everyone is sharing.
silly me, i thought everyone was having as much fun as i was (even tho i'm a
old dork), but i guess different strokes for different folks.  i enjoy
knowing that each time click on the list that a hee hee or a ha ha await.
i'm so tickled by the posts that i laugh out loud.  now when i listen to my
ig songs i think about the misheard lyrics and it makes me chuckle.  so, if
you see someone speeding down the road in a honda accord who is laughing and
smiling and singing, it's me!

i absolutely respect the opinions of those who think these threads are
getting old.  it is our diversity that makes us all beautiful.  so before
this punny business stops, i wanted to thank everyone for sharing.  my two
cents - i
hope this funny-bunny stuff continues for a while longer.  also, if this
wasn't sappy enough for anyone, please lemme know and i'll give it another
try, this time w/ sugar on top!

peace + love,
barbara
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>so...that was the igc...kinda funny.  after licking carpet the fab four
>stan said "...i got an...indiglo girls cd.  the guy at the record stor
>said it was perfect."  the ctf knockoff was "i woke very early 1 sunday
>morn..." and thats all i could make out.
>crazy.

hey!  as a huge south park fan i just had to jump in and say go girls!
they have hit the big time.  i realize many might find this type of humor
offensive but now c'mon, that carpet licking/ box chomping stuff was
hysterical!!!   of course my favorite line of all time is by cartman in the
christmas episode:  that's it, talking poo is where i draw the line, i'm
outta here.  see http://www.comedycentral.com if you have no idea what i am
talking about here.

on an more direct igc front, i was wondering if anyone has any info on ig's
next album.  after reading about ani difranco releasing yet another studio
album soon, i have to say i am jealous and wish ig cranked one out every
year like that.  but i'll take what i have.  i know there was talk around
the release of sots that the next one would be more acoustic--kinda back to
their old roots.  are they writing songs?  is it being worked on?  i know
they are on tour but that is usually when they write all their stuff.  i
need winthrop and chiapas bound in studio now!!  and what about problem
child!  time for another one!   cmon girls get a move on ;-).    thanks for
any info.

and one more public thanks to all those who have contributed to my quest to
do the aids ride this summer.  i am so grateful for all the generosity i
have received thus far.  anyone still interested in helping that hasn't
already contacted me can obviously still do so.  later y'all

greg

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so it's late and i don't feel like going to bed and i want to inflict my
interpretation of this on all of you [*insert pseudo-evil laughter here*].
when i hear the "cryin' about my own virginity" line i always think of the
women in chiapas (and other places) who are raped and how their sexuality
is damaged (i can't think of how to say it the way i want to...are you
catching my drift thought, i hope?) so they are losing a virginity of one
kind or another because of these crimes against them. (how's that for a
run-on sentence?) so for someone sitting here in comfy ol' us-of-a in a
safe home thinking "gee, why can't i get laid" or "why can't i get a
date" to be worried over something so small when woman are being hurt at
such a deep level, it can be petty and shallow to not see the whole picture.
it's about perspective and remembering what hell others are facing. i
hope that makes sense 'cuz i'm done rambling for now. 'night.
-sam (who couldn't get a date to save her soul but doesn't care anyway)

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okely dokely, here is the plan......

there are about 12 of us so far meeting up for dinner at a
restaurant called "aromas" within the concert hall. the
booking is for 6 pm and is under the name "ig"....see you
there...

any questions??

mail me :))

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ok, i thought of another one that i mishear on the occasion.  i used to
think that in keeper of my heart amy said "with lions crossing into a
hand and a heart that would never bleed..."  yeah, haven't you all seen
the lions on her tattoo?!  i mean, don't we all see them?!  hmm, i know
there are lots of others...let me think...i once sang "with haughty eyes
and lying tongs" (instead of tongues)...but somehow i was gettin' this
image of amy over a bbq and scolding the tongs for lying to her...and the
image was just wrong! ;)  let's see, my friend taz and i made up a page
of ig quotes (yes jill, this is in our cit binder...it's funny!) before
we knew all the words, so there are some fine misheards there....in
galileo (admittedly we'd only heard the live version, where the audience
screamed this part...) we thought it said "maybe as far as you've crossed
in your lifetime".  yeah, that's right! :)  and i thought that it said
"being the cancer of my intellect"...geez, what was i on?!  it's all
clear now, i swear! :)  and also in love's recovery she was "painting
picture perfect maps"...i guess it was so that later on shaming she could
get out the map...heehee! ;)  ok, i think that is it for my lyric list,
though i'm sure i'll remember more later...they've been pushed into my
unconscious...ack!  too much psych... ;)

love,
carolyn
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yes there is igc...just keep reading...

http://members.aol.com/~sctantrums/jorguest.htm

journal entry by: troy
posted from: columbia
feb 8, 1998 , 23:58

hey again! we made it to vegas in the middle of the night
and couldn't
believe how it lit up from miles away. we drove around lost
for awhile
looking for the hard rock cafe, and saw the obscene neon
wonderland
thru the windows of the worm. we checked in to the hotel and
quickly
headed back down to the casino to give some of our
hardearned money
away. me, bryan and john went to the blackjack table where i
promptly
lost 40 bucks. big horse stuck it out a little longer, but
john came away
with like around $100. we found danielle over by the
roulette table with
dave, and sully from the girls crew. emily was also down
there, but she
didn't get serious til the next night after the show. the
great part was
that our rooms were in the hard rock and all we had to do
the next day
was ride the elevator down to the show.

for some reason everyone slept in the next day and enjoyed
the no
travel. we walked around vegas a bit and then headed down to
the
show.it was one of the best ones of the tour...we played
well and the
crowd was crammed way up front and standing up the whole
time. we
oof course felt more at home in the club atmosphere, and it
was a great
time. the girls kicked ass of course. after the show we all
headed to
the casino again to give away the rest of our money. i
actually won 40
this time, which is of course a small forune to me. the
indigo girls and
most of their crew commandeered the roulette table again and
caused a
bit of commotion while everyone crowded around and watched
emily kick
butt at the roulette...she looked like she was up around a
million dollars
when she learned that it was time to head to the airport, so
she took all
of her chips and placed them on black...of course it came up
red but she
didn't seem to care. oh well, she probably has a little
money saved up
somewhere:)
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carolyn <ceturett@juno.com> wrote:

> and also in love's recovery she was "painting picture perfect
> maps"...i guess it was so that later on shaming she could get
> out the map...heehee! ;)  ok, i think that is it for my lyric list,
> though i'm sure i'll remember more later...

actually, in "love's recovery" - she *was*: "painting picture perfect
maps... of how my life and love would be."

:o)
peace...
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a bed to be made and a bed to lie in.

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i discovered this morning in kid fears (on botby) she says
"replace your needs with love".  i've always thought it was
"the place, your needs, with love".

it made sense to me because i thought she was like "the place,
your needs"....those are the things personal to you, and "with
love" was her sentiment for singing the song to us. hehehe :)


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|o| indigo   *    |    * in his pain / someone's on the bathroom  |o|
|o| %rick%   *   / \   * floor doing her cocaine / someone's got  |o|
|o|          * _/   \_ * his finger on the button in some room /  |o|
|o| foxmuldr  *       *  no-one can convince me / we're not       |o|
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i saw it as "revved up like a deuce" on some show where they were talking
about things like this......just solve it with the international lyrics server
or some other site online....i will do that now....

"blinded by the light" by manfred mann from the roaring silence (c) 1976
lyrics by bruce springstein (!!)

chorus: blinded by the light
revved up like a deuce
another runner in the night
blinded by the light
revved up like a deuce
another runner in the night
blinded by the light
revved up like a deuce
another runner in the night (fading)
madman dummers bummers,
indians in the summer,
with a teenager diplomat
and the dumps with the mumps
as the adolescent pumps his way into his hat
with a boulder my shoulder,
feeling kinda older,
i tripped the merry-go-round
with this very unpleasin', sneezin' and wheezin,
the calliope crashed to the ground
(pickup)
the calliope crashed to the ground
(chorus)
some silicon sister with a manager mister
told me i go what it takes.
i'll run you on sonny to something strong
play the song with the funky break
and go-cart mozart was checkin' out the
weather charts see if it was safe outside
and little early burly came by in his curly wurly
and asked me if i needed a ride
(pickup)
asked me if i needed a ride
(chorus)
bridge: she got down but she never got tired
she's gonna make it to the night
she's gonna make it through the night
(break with soul-stirring solo)
oh momma that's where the fun is
but momma that's where the fun is
momma always told me not to look
in the eye's on the sun
but momma that's where the fun is
(chop sticks variation)
so brimstone-baritone, anti-cyclone rolling stone
preacher from the east,
says dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in it's funny bone
thats what they expect at least
it's a new grown chaperon standing in the corner
watching the young girls dance
and some fresh sown moonstone messing with his frozen zone,
only reminding him of romance
(pickup)
and the calliope crashed to the ground
(chorus)
(chorus and first verse)
now scott with the sling-shot finially found a tender spot
and throws his lover in the sand
and some blood-shot forget-me-not
said daddy's wax x x ?buck-shot? turn up the band
(repeat verse 2 "silicon sister with a manager....")
(bridge)


on another version i found online it says "cut loose like a deuce" but on the
one we all know and love it is "revved up like a deuce.

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>actually, in "love's recovery" - she *was*: "painting picture perfect
>maps... of how my life and love would be."

mel ... how would emily know how your life and love would be?  hehehehe

sorry!  i just couldn't resist.  :)

- rick

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hey kind friends-
     can someone please email me privately with the link to a web site that
has the scanned photos of the jan. '98 curve magazine cover? thanks!

     btw- i'm loving all those mr. limes!

~peace and all things indigo~leah

we are fortunate ones, fortunate ones, i swear...amy ray

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helen wrote:

> just wondering if anyone out there has thoughts about what amy is referring
> to in scooter boys when she says 'crying about my own virginity..." i
> really don't think she's referring to literal virginity here. i think it's
> about some form of purity but i can't take it further than that....any
> thoughts?

i've always thought of the line as referring to the irony that here
are all these people were dying and all i seem to care about is my
wants and needs in this land where, by comparison, i have a life _so_
pathetically easy it makes one ill.  in this sense, "virginity" to me
is a metaphor for all those melodramatic problems that we create in
our own heads that (1) aren't really "problems" and (2) eventually
take care of themselves.

i never really thought of it helen's way, but that works too.  waking
up to the fact that the world around you isn't as pure as you once
thought -- you lost your virginity and are crying over it. especiallys
as you are stuck in the land of liberty and can't do much directly.

yet another case of multi-faceted cool ig writing....

                                -- chris

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paging dianne connell, paging dianne connell.  please pick up a white
courtesy phone.

*seriously, if you're out there...did you get my tape???

-alanna

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> as you are stuck in the land of liberty and can't do much directly.

that would of course be, land of plenty

sigh -- the email will probably stop by next tuesday.....

                        -- chris

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on wed, 11 feb 1998, k. asiu wrote:

> the line i kept messing up in  the language or the kiss was, "i said to you,
> the one gift which i'd adore" i always heard,   " i said to you go and get a
> china doll "  kinda made sense what with the next line having to do with
> unwrapping a package <g>
>
hey y'all,

okay!  i *never* knew what this line was until a month or so ago when i
was listening to some boot where the lines are really clear.  i thought
this line was "i said to you, noone gets a try at a door..."  for the
longest time, i just mumbled through those lines, then eventually i came
up with that.  nonsensical, of course.  oh well.

peace, melissa

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> okay, here're a few of mine:
> --"clearing words from a huddle" from hammer and a nail.  i actually had
> to go look this one up. (the real lyric being "clearing webs from a
> hovel" -- i really like mine better. =)

hey!

i thought this line was "clearing webs from the hubble"  as in that big
space telescope thingy that kept breaking down/needing repairs...  i just
thought this was another adjustment! :)  heck, what's a hovel?  sorry, i'm
really not illiterate...

peace, melissa

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okay..here's one for you. and i'm not a pervert, and i didn't think amy
was so blunt either but "here i sit and i'm landing plenty, crying about
my own virginity..." as in even though she was "landing plenty" she
still wasn't getting enough....????? okay, back to sleep
cate...heeheehee

"remember everything i told you. keep it in your heart like a stone. and
when the wind has blown things round and back again, what was once your
pain will be your home. everything in it's own time..." *emily saliers


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hey yall
ok, this is my last little post bout loop tapes. i have gotten a bunch of
responses so it looks like we will have another round of loop tapes.  to
everyone who has emailed me, i will send you all an email with more info this
weekend. to anyone else who is interested please email me privately by
tomorrow night (if possible) cause that way i can organize everything and get
this rollin.  i think thats it...

peace
sasha

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does anyone happen to have the words to this song? i can't quite make out a
lot of the lyrics and i would like to know them.
~amy

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hey folks,


i was standing knee deep in the various artists section, going on my
second hour, in the local record store the other day and i thought, what
else could i do that's this tedious for this long and still be this happy.
not too many things. so instead of sitting in an office behind a desk
utilizing my attractively framed 6 year computer degree, i'm going to give
my full attention to fortunate ones records. i feel very indebted to you
all (the list) for sharing your passion for music. i hope to serve you
well and become a respected member of the record store family we all
appreciate. my goal is to build the store around your wishes..so please
send any and all comments, suggestions, critizism, whatever! the f.o.
phone number is 813 906 0257.

i invite you to visit or re-visit the site. take a peek at junk and
conversation the non-indigo section. the re-opening sale lasts till
saturday and entitles you to 10% off your order, a free sampler cd and ig
business card sticker. spend $25 and get a free ig t-shirt.

the address is still: http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones

if you have trouble with frames try:

http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones/fortunateones.html

i will offer specials every week and to continue to provide a fresh
supply of ig collectibles to keep your collections growing. thanks!
we are fortunate ones,
joe

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in a message dated 98-02-12 00:24:51 est, you write:

<< i originally thought though of virginity almost being a selfish thing that
we
worry about.  we are so privilaged to be able to place value on something as
incidental as our virginity >>


    i wouldn't consider virginity to be so incidental, but that is just a
personal opinion.  anyway, the real meaning of this post was to let you all
know about the ig part of my day.  we were sitting in class and all of a
sudden bury my heart at wounded knee came on.  the whole class listened to it
and then talked about its meaning in realtionship to the wounded knee siege
(2nd).   it was a nice break in the day for me :)

   anne

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date:         thu, 12 feb 1998 19:39:16 +0000
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subject:      re : wild horses lyrics

ok - for anybody who's curious, here we go.....

>wild horses
> by jagger/richards

>          childhood living is easy to do
>          the things you wanted i bought them for you
>          graceless lady you know who i am,
>          you know i can't let you slide through my hands

>          wild horses couldn't drag me away,
>          wild, wild horses, couldn't drag me away

>          i watched you suffer a dull aching pain,
>          now you've decided to show me the same
>          no sweeping exits or offstage lines
>          can make me feel bitter or treat you unkind

>          wild horses couldn't drag me away,
>          wild, wild horses, couldn't drag me away

>          i know i dreamed you a sin and a lie,
>          i have my freedom but i don't have much time
>          faith has been broken, tears must be cried,
>          let's do some living after we die

>          wild horses couldn't drag me away,
>          wild, wild horses, we'll ride them someday

>          wild horses couldn't drag me away,
>          wild, wild horses, we'll ride them someday

that's taken from.....

http://camel.conncoll.edu/ccother/sf.folder/exile/lyrics/sticky/wildh
rses.html

thanks for reading,

john.


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marcie : "and kind friends"

(charlie brown and snoopy show)

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date:         thu, 12 feb 1998 11:31:13 -0500
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for those of you, like me, who missed south park last night, it will be
replayed saturday at 10 pm eastern time.

elizabeth <--  who thought, when she saw the preview, that the new teacher
looked pretty hot, but it just didn't click that this might be the episode
we were waiting for


web page: http://www.muohio.edu/~skippeec
~~~
"well, sometimes, life gives us lessons sent in ridiculous packaging"
-dar williams, "the pointless, yet poignant, crisis of a co-ed"

"and if these troubles should vanish like rain at midday, well i've no
doubt there'll be more.
and we can't run and we can't cheat, cause baby when we meet what we're
afraid of,
we find out what we're made of."
-everything but the girl, "we walk the same line"

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date:         thu, 12 feb 1998 15:42:21 -0400
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when they introduced her as miss ellen, i knew it was the episode we'd
been waiting for. that's typical south parkian humor, no?

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date:         fri, 13 feb 1998 08:00:41 +1100
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hey folks,

i went out and picked up this months' edition of the
sydney-area magazine "lesbians on the loose' last night,
hoping for an ig article.  they didn't have an article
though, just this blurb:


extra date for indigos
folk rock duo the indigo girls have added an extra date to
the sydney leg of their australian tour.  they will now
perform at the state theatre on february 26 and 17.  the
crusading dyke duo who came out four years ago and who
have become more outspoken in the process told lotl last
year, "the mainstream has become more politicised.  you
have nothing to lose any more by being blatant."  their
latest album is '97's "shaming of the sun".


better than nothing i suppose. :)

work, work, must get to work... happy happy folks!
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     don't forget to count your blessings."  - sara hickman

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date:         thu, 12 feb 1998 13:10:16 -0800
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i have seen webpages of people who collect ig stuff. i think it is
impressive how much stuff people have amassed, and i am glad that if such
things exist, the people who have them really do care about the girls.

but...

does it seem paradoxical to anyone else that a group who sings about the
simple pleasures in life, about being charitable to others and who
personally donate their time, energy, and money to several causes is
collected in this manner by "true fans" ?

sure, i have bought ig t-shirts, and cds, and have some pictures as well
(hell, i may even get a poster one day :)) despite this, somehow, to me
there is a difference between having a few things here and there that you
treasure (like the guitar pick with amy's fingerprint on it that i grabbed
off the stage after singing ctf with them) and having a massive collection
worth thousands and thousands of dollars. i guess everyone has their own
pleasures, but i would rather give $500 to charity than buy a rare
album/vinyl/cd/whatever that only i will get to look at. i think the girls
would prefer that too.

i dunno.. i'm not criticizing anyone here, i just know there are a lot of
ig fans like me out there who have to scrape together money to go to a
concert, and whose one poster of amy and emily is a prized piece. i have
had the great fortune of having friends on the list who send me little
things every so often (thanks, rodney!!), and i hope that when i am in a
better financial state, i will be able to send stuff like that to new ig
fans who are thrilled to get it.

please remember i am not criticizing anyone for collecting.. i guess i am
just uncomfortable with all of the materialism that is associated with
huge expensive collections....

just my thoughts :)

emily

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date:         thu, 12 feb 1998 13:12:06 -0800
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sorry, one more thing:
are there any universalist unitarian listees out there? if so, could you
please privately email me? i have a few questions... :)

emily

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                sorry about this but the computer mangled a bunch of messages and while i
have the names i don't have the address for this person/persons.

i'd like to have replied to you about farmington me, but need you to send
me your addy again.

apologies for the rest who get to read about this.


jenny

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wow wow wow wow wow! emily's post about collecting a rare ig album with
$500 to spend rather than using it to donate to a charity or other
comparable usage was so well put! if we could bottle up all the energy
that we devote to amy and emily we could move mountains. the girls
enlighten us, motivate us, inspire us. why not become those people
ourselves rather than just admiring them. ani difranco says it well when
she sings "'thank you for saying all the things i never do', i say the
thanks i get is to take all the shit for you. it's nice that you listen,
it'd be nice if you'd join in. as long as you play that game girl,
you're never gonna win.".....love to all. cream of the crop.

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when the wind has blown things round and back again, what was once your
pain will be your home. everything in it's own time..." *emily saliers


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---"emily d. mark" <emark@scf-fs.usc.edu> wrote:
> please remember i am not criticizing anyone for collecting.. i guess
>i am just uncomfortable with all of the materialism that is associated
> with huge expensive collections....

well, we could all live in squalor and give all of our money to
others, but is that really necessary?  i think the decision of how
much is too much must be left to the individual.  for all you know,
those people whose collections you browsed could have purchased those
things when they were cheap, or, even more likely, they could live
fairly modestly but indulge in that particular expense.  i know that
is the case for me, much as it is for those who recently discussed how
they struggle to find a means to road trip to see the girls.  i own
thousands of cds and albums, but i also contribute to various
charities once or twice a month.

>does it seem paradoxical to anyone else that a group who sings
>about the simple pleasures in life,

music *is* one of those for me!

>about being charitable to others

if these folks were selfish, you probably wouldn't have had a cause to
be examining their collections...

frankly, i am much more concerned about those who take advantage of
these collectors and the artists they collect by extracting enormous
profits (often from things like autographs not intended for resale, or
magazines bought in bulk from newstands and resold months later at 10x
the price).
==

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---greg flamer <gflame@megsinet.net> wrote:
>after reading about ani difranco releasing yet another studio
> album soon, i have to say i am jealous and wish ig cranked one out
>every year like that.

to be fair, i think the time between the live cd "1200 curfews" and
sots is comparable to the time between ani's live cd "living in clip"
and "little plastic castle", but in general ani really cranks them
out.  but then, ani's early cds sound a lot alike, too, can't say that
for the girls.  i'll take quality over quantity any day.

>but i'll take what i have.  i know there was talk around
>the release of sots that the next one would be more acoustic--kinda
>back to their old roots.  are they writing songs?

if amy's new songs, "nueva senorita" (?) and "forgiveness" (?) are any
indication, her songs are going to have a country feel, complete with
pedal steel.  i think the only emily song on the front burner is
"winthrop," which is now a couple of years old, like amy's "chiapas
bound".
==

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original "materialism post":
> please remember i am not criticizing anyone for collecting.. i guess
>i am just uncomfortable with all of the materialism that is associated
> with huge expensive collections....

different post, different person:
>wow wow wow wow wow! emily's post about collecting a rare ig album with
>$500 to spend rather than using it to donate to a charity or other
>comparable usage was so well put! if we could bottle up all the energy
>that we devote to amy and emily we could move mountains. the girls
>enlighten us, motivate us, inspire us. why not become those people
>ourselves rather than just admiring them. ani difranco says it well when

my response:

or, for example, the big-time collectors on the list could become more
like emily by saving up all the money they would spend on ig collectibles
and buy a porsche...just like emily's...

seriously, ig make what contributions they do to the causes they care
about out of their excess (and god bless them for it).  you have no
reason to believe that the big-time, high-roller collectors on this
list don't operate on exactly that same ethic.

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it wasn't the most flattering use of indigo girls. i'm not sure i'd try
real hard to see it again. just an opinion.

derek

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no one was saying that the "big-time collectors" are bad people...i just
think...well, you know what i think, it doesn't need to be written
again. as for emily's porsche...you're assuming a ritzy sportscar is a
bad thing? emily donates so much time and money to the causes she or she
and amy believe in. i don't think she should be denied spending some of
her money on herself! she's more than earned it, don't you think?
indulgences are fine. let's not judge each other here. someone was just
making a point. a good point in my opinion...

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in a message dated 2/12/98 4:11:57 pm eastern standard time, emark@scf-
fs.usc.edu writes:

<<
does it seem paradoxical to anyone else that a group who sings about the
simple pleasures in life, about being charitable to others and who
personally donate their time, energy, and money to several causes is
collected in this manner by "true fans" ?
  >>
i collect ig stuff because i enjoy it. i don't limit my collecting to only ig
items....i've collected items ranging from melissa ferrick to the beatles. ig
just happens to be the bulk of my collection.

amy and emily are wonderful musicians. i do hope, however, that they would not
advise me on what to do with the money i earn. i would not choose to donate to
any charity because "the girls would prefer that". i would choose to do so
only if it were my decision and i supported the cause, not to please someone
else.

grl

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at 07:49 pm 2/11/98 -0800, ariel federow wrote:
>--"clearing words from a huddle" from hammer and a nail.  i actually had
>to go look this one up. (the real lyric being "clearing webs from a
>hovel"

i used to think it was "clearing webs from the hubble"
(as in the *big* telescope hubble)!  is that plain stupid
or what??

hehe,
leigh ann

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i've been quiet on the list for awhile, but this i have to comment on...

at 01:10 pm 2/12/98 -0800, emily d. mark wrote:
>does it seem paradoxical to anyone else that a group who sings about the
>simple pleasures in life, about being charitable to others and who
>personally donate their time, energy, and money to several causes is
>collected in this manner by "true fans" ?

please keep in mind that the same group you say sing about the simple
pleasures in life (i happen to think they sing about quite complex things,
but that's another commentary) have also made themselves a comfy living
doing so.

i truly admire the work they do and the fact that there's some "substance"
to their music. i have stuck with them because they back their message up
with their actions. but i have to admit that i really don't recall any
lyrics or interviews in which they suggest that charity equates living a
pauper's life. actually i don't recall any interview it which they insist
or suggest that their fans live life in the manner they do. quite the
contrary -- the message i took from them early on was, "find your own truth".

>i guess everyone has their own
>pleasures, but i would rather give $500 to charity than buy a rare
>album/vinyl/cd/whatever that only i will get to look at. i think the girls
>would prefer that too.

perhaps it might be wise to temper the conclusion jumping. we really don't
know what the girls prefer and we really don't know that the person who
pays $500 for a rare item doesn't give the same or more in time or money to
the charity of his or her choice. why do you assume it's an either/or
proposition? so those with collections are materialistic and those without
collections have instead been assigned seats and boarding passes for the
next flight to heaven? i happen to be the person who collected the checks
last year for one of the b-day projects. i know first hand that folks
around here, many who buy all the "indigo" they can get their hands on, are
quite charitable.

>please remember i am not criticizing anyone for collecting.. i guess i am
>just uncomfortable with all of the materialism that is associated with
>huge expensive collections....

but you know what? if a person owns a ton of rare ig items and is
enthralled by that, that should be his or her thing. i happen to be close
to having sealed copies of all the vinyl epic releases. i'm only missing
rop and nis and my goal is to find them. will my little collection be worth
something when i get it together? possibly, but that's not why i'm trying
to collect them all. i'm doing it because i'm having fun trying to track
them down. i do, however, have other noble goals in my life and i plan on
dying a happy camper even if i don't get those last two lps.

the bottom line is, if you're uncomfy having a collection of items, then
don't start one. and if you need a place to donate a few extra dollars,
please send them to my buddy greg flamer <gflame@megsinet.net>. i know he's
working hard to prepare himself for the chicago --> twin cites aids ride
and could really use the support. i know he's getting mine (even if i get a
lead on those last two vinyls ;).

deb

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it's prolly lame, but i never have them...(other than the fact that i think
about ig almost all day!)

ok...so i'm sitting in 7th period getting really bored thinking about how i
need to go to another concert *very* soon, or i'm gonna die of
boredom...and my teacher is getting pissed off at the class, and she says,
(this is exactly what she says) "alright, i'm just gonna clean the slate
clean...(blah, blah, blah)," so i thought to myself "what makes you think
you can start clean-slated?" and the little tape recorder in my head clicks
on and starts playing lc, so the boredom left me!

no big deal huh? oh well, i also didn't have much to do when i got
home...thanx for listening!

pax, celeste

p.s. for those of you who were wondering, pax means peace in latin...it's
also my cat's name.

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i was just listening to spirit of '73 and i have a question.  to what does
the song sung by ig, "it won't take long," refer.  i know it was written by
ferron, but i don't know when.  i know it's about activism, but i wasn't
sure if there was a particular cause that went along with it or not.  if
anyone has any facts or ideas, i'd love to hear them.  thanks.

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-dar williams, "february"

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date:         thu, 12 feb 1998 17:15:17 -0800
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whoa, people... way to overreact.

i was not saying ig collectors are money-hoarding hags who are going
straight to hell. i am not accusing them of being uncharitable. i am not
suggesting we give all our money to charity and live off the fat of the
land, just scraping by. i am not pulling a holier-than-thou attitude. i
was just posting a simple opinion (get that? an _opinion_) on the topic of
paying lots and lots of money for things.

my grandmother was an avid collector for many, many years, and owned many
precious dolls, bears, etc. i do not believe she is in hell. it was her
choice to spend time and money on those things, and if it made her happy,
that's all that mattered. but when she died, we were left with huge piles
of stuff. precious and beautiful and valuable stuff, to be sure, but stuff
nonetheless. now all of it has been sold or distributed among her many
grandchildren. do i think it's a shame because it's not all in one place
anymore?
no- because all of her grandchildren get to share in a little piece of
their grandma's life.
and the money that the family received from the sale of her things (as she
requested)? went to college funds for all the grandchildren. i don't know
if this is even an appropriate analogy, but the point is, even my
grandmother (who loved stuff) knew that there were things more important
in life than it. so the person who is thinking of buying yet another ig
t-shirt, when they already own 25, might want to stop and think about
donating that $20 or $25 to a homeless shelter. it's just a suggestion,
people.. not a command. i know it took me a while to get over being
materialistic and to realize that accumulation did not equal happiness for
me.
i am an art major. i deal with stuff on a daily basis. but i do know that
although i admire something, i will not pay 12 million dollars to admire
it in my house. i just feel that my money is better spent making a
difference in the world, rather than accumulating. how you spend your
money is your business, and i am not criticizing anyone for it.
so post your opinions- i am interested in hearing them. but quit flaming
me. anything with the word "bitch" in it will be promptly ignored. (and
your name will be mentally added to my list of lame-o people of the
universe who are spoiled unhatched dinosaur eggs and are not ambassadors
of kwon.)

i think marivel said it best when she said that there is so much energy
flowing from people on this list, we shouldn't just restrict it to
following the girls on tour and buying their cds, but actually doing
something.

cheers,
emily

p.s. if any of you agree with my personal philosophy, you might want to
read a good book called die broke. i can't remember the author, but it has
some great ideas. :) :)

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yeah emily! well said. i agree with you 100%, and if that makes me a
bitch, then i guess i am! oh well...i'm going to spread bitchyness now.
later all!

"remember everything i told you. keep it in your heart like a stone. and
when the wind has blown things round and back again, what was once your
pain will be your home. everything in it's own time..." *emily saliers


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>i was just listening to spirit of '73 and i have a question.  to what does
>the song sung by ig, "it won't take long," refer.  i know it was written by
>ferron, but i don't know when.  i know it's about activism, but i wasn't
>sure if there was a particular cause that went along with it or not.  if
>anyone has any facts or ideas, i'd love to hear them.  thanks.
>
it was written about the anniversary of roe vs wade, and, incidently, is my
favorite song on the awesome least compliated dub that has been floating
around.  ;)

alisa

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well...this it the exact same post i put up last time this thread went
through...will a little fix ups etc. yippee

  i can't say i first heard them @ camp like mostly everyone(if i
did hear them in 3rd grade at camp, it was '86 or '87, and they were
stil
pre-maj label), unless it was was when i went to space camp in 5th or
7th grade, but then again we weren't sittin' aroung camp fires singin
(nope--we were just crashing to our death in screwd-up shuttle
simulations).  i unfortuneately only heard them via radio, and
moreso--vh-1.  i really liked galileo, but in 6th & 7th grade, i never
bought music, so it didn't matter. i remember hearing (and being
excited) other ig songs later...like touch me fall of the radio (i have
a memory of laying in my bed after the alarm went off, just listening to
a song that ig did that
had many diff parts).  plus i was watching boys on the side on hbo in
apr. of '96, and the bar scene was on, and my bro said that was ig, and
i said...oh yeah!!! i remember them!!  wow, they're good...but i still
never bought much music (besides they might be giants and compilation
tapes).  well, finally, i got hooked when jill certo told me she bought
me a ticket for ig this last
june, so i made her make me a tape...and i finally got hooked.  yeah...
why i gotta be so slow like that....
ok, i'm better now.
carol

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date:         thu, 12 feb 1998 20:59:09 -0500
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according to the february ice newsletter (great source of cd release info,
see my music index for their web site), there's a live janis joplin cd
being released on 3/17 called "janis joplin with big brother and the
holding company live at winterland '68", and amy ray joins ann & nancy
wilson, meredith brooks, deborah harry, kim gordon, joan jett, chrissie
hynde, and stevie nicks in providing a "written testimonial" in the
"voluminous and thorough" liner notes.

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date:         thu, 12 feb 1998 20:59:26 -0500
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here's the letter to rolling stone (1/22/98) someone mentioned:

----

rs: as usual, whenever rolling stone attempts to put together any kind of
representative list of anything, we are inundated with letters from fans upset
about the omission or underrepresentation of the favorites.  for example:

to completely ignore the existence of -- let alone the talent, power, and
popularity of -- the indigo girls is a woefully executed display of pompous
and
selective journalism.  a media crime, if you will.  a crime for which each and
every one of you deserves 30 swift and nasty lashes.

frank o'connell
washington, dc

rs:  if it's any consolation, frank, the indigo girls received the heaviest
support from indignant readers, followed buy kate bush, kim deal, deborah
harry, stevie nicks, joan osborne, cyndi lauper, and more than 50 other
artists.

----

frank, if you're on the list, i owe you a beer at the next show. :-)

i'm pleased that so many ig fans took the time to write.  rs has never
respected ig, but maybe the response will get some attention.  probably not,
but you never know. :-)

frankly, i was more dismayed by the advocate's complete snub in their women in
rock issue.

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in a message dated 98-02-12 00:24:59 est, s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu
writes:


can anyone please tell me when south park (the ig one) will be on again
this weekend?  thanks!

:-) karen >>


i think it is on here (west coast) saturday night at 10pm.....

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hey guys, all of these misheard lyrics are hilarious, but for real, it takes
me like 20 minutes to check my mail these days.  i hope that is not rude.  :)
remember, they will be sending out a list of all of them put together.  well i
have a question:  how do some folks just always seem to get lucky and acquire
all of the girls backstage passes?  man, i think i would do just about
anything to have just one!!!  well have a beautiful indiglowing evening
everyone.  hope i didnt offend anybody!?!

take care, trooper

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in a message dated 98-02-12 17:06:15 est, shampine@ll.mit.edu writes:

<< or, for example, the big-time collectors on the list could become more
like emily by saving up all the money they would spend on ig collectibles
and buy a porsche...just like emily's... >>

to the person that wrote this:

very funny!  point well taken!

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>but what the heck are "negligent vendors"?

this is in reunion, where amy's singing about her fellow high school
graduates, and the qualities she sees in these people that she just doesn't
like, "all those pretty pretenders, negligent vendors" ... "intimate
strangers" ...

i've always kind of thought that the "negligent vendors" are those people
and companies that produce and sell things without regard to the damage
it could be doing to the environment, or to the people buying.

maybe that's why we should all patronize common pond! :)
(www.thecommonpond.com)

gotta love the virginia-highlands!
cathy :)

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what i want to know is, i love the indigo girls and i follow them and have
this seriously connected sprituality with them and their music (much like many
others on this list even though most of us never have and never really will
"know" the girls face to face).  but i feel left out b/c i didn't know em
drove a porsche!  how do i miss this stuff?

seriously, i can't afford to collect ig stuff and i can't afford to donate a
whole lot, either.  but if i could, i have to say it would be very divided
between the two.  there is a happy medium--we do things for ourselves and
others as well.  why donate all the money i have and not save some to buy a
personal reminder of what it is that inspired me in the first place?

peace, ya'll!!!!!!!!

-tiffany

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date:         thu, 12 feb 1998 21:17:13 -0700
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wild horses

   bm         g   gsus  bm           g   gsus

1.  childhood living      is easy to do

   am          g   c      d  g   gsus        g     d  dsus2  d  c

    the things you wanted    i   brought them  for you

   bm         g    gsus   bm              g  gsus

    graceless lady         you know who i am

   am          g     c       d  g  gsus         g  d dsus2 d

    you know i can't let you      slide through my hands

   am     g  c      d  g         f       g  c     bm

ch. wild     horses     couldn't drag me a- way

   am        g  c      d g         f       g  c

    wild wild   horses    couldn't drag me a- way

2.  i watched you suffer a dull aching pain

    now you've decided to show me the same

    no sweeping exits or off-stage lines

    could make me feel bitter or treat you unkind

ch. wild horses couldn't drag me away

                                       c(viii)

    wild wild horses couldn't drag me away

    [guitar break]

    fsus2(viii) c(viii) x 3

    d g

3.  i know i've dreamed you a sin and a lie

    i have my freedom but i don't have much time

    faith has been broken, tears must be cried

    let's do some living, after we'll die

ch. wild horses couldn't drag me away

    wild wild horses we'll ride them some day.

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emily wrote:

>
> cheers,
> emily
>
> p.s. if any of you agree with my personal philosophy, you might want to
> read a good book called die broke. i can't remember the author, but it has
> some great ideas. :) :)

hey ya'll...i have returned!  :)  (don't applaud, just throw money!!!
actually, i am kidding in light of the conversation as of late...)

i am not even going to get in on this conversation because i tend to put
myself in the middle of flame wars, whether purposefully or
accidentally, and i vowed to avoid this...

but the author of that book, die broke, is a guy with the last name of
pollock.  he is tracy pollock's father, aka michael j. fox's father in
law.  i saw him on oprah, read the book, and it is a fantastic
philosophy. basically, it is the idea of giving your money to your kids
when you are still here so you can see them enjoy it.  or giving your
stuff to charity and donating collectibles to chariable auctions while
you are still alive to hear the "thank you."  it bases the principle of
giving on the joy of making others happy and still being here to see
them happy, not about wanting to hear people say how great you are.  it
also makes problems that arise from will readings and executors of
estates, etc. disappear,(ie.."i wanted the car," or "why didn't that old
bitch leave me the china?") because there is nothing left to give once
you become, as bon puts it, worm meat. you give it while you are here to
watch it bring joy to others.  and to tell those who don't get anything
why.  anyhoo, not jamming philosophy down anyone's throats, just giving
author information and a little book review.  go out and read it. while
you may not agree, it'll at least be food for thought....  :)

anyhoo, just wanted to say on the ig side of things, that my all time
favorite worst mr. lime in regard to the girls is from hammer and a
nail:
"now i know red fuse never glows
from a tin can and a chuck-filled hose
gotta tend the earth if you wanna grow!!!!!"

i actually discovered the real lyrics a few years back when my sista
susie b. had it as her sig file.

so i owe my ig literate-ness all to you, sus!  without you, i'd-uh never
made it to grad school!!  <sniff, sniff>  ;)

peace dudes!
karrie

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here we are again!!!  okay, peoples, we told you about our plan, but some
of you are still sending your misheard lines (aka: mr. limes) to the entire
list, so here's the thing:  you have to send your funny stuff to either
dawn michelle or myself (shannon) in order for it to make it into our
little "book."

for those of you that haven't heard about it, we are going to collect your
misheard lines, titles and any "indigo puns" to be compiled into a little
"book" to be given to amy and emily, as well as anyone else who requests
it.  we figured it'd be a cute little present for them, reading all the
weird stuff people thought they were saying. ;)

so, here are the directions to sending in your entry...again for those of
you that missed them the first time...

1. all entries must be sent with the subject heading "misheard lyric
entry"

2. send all entries that are from "strange fire", "n*i*s", and "swamp
ophelia" plus any cover that ig has done to:
                         shannon:  bcmassga@bluffton.edu

3. send all entries that are from "indigo girls", "rites of passage" and
"shaming of the sun" plus any misheard title or any pun to:
                dawn-michelle:  w00ds0ng@aol.com  (all "o"s are zeros)

4. include the misheard line plus the actual line

5. make the entry fairly short.  if you've got a little anecdote that goes
along with it, that's cool cause sometimes they make the whole thing funny.
just try to keep it under 5-6 lines! :)

6. send in as many entries as you can. we want to gives copies of the
compilation out to amy & emily, and anyone on the list who wants one.

7. because we've sorta gotten a slow start, we'll accept entries until
next friday (feb 20th).

thanks!!!!!
     dawn-michelle & shannon

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date:         thu, 12 feb 1998 19:52:03 -0500
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> way back in january, nicola nelson wrote:
> "hostile barbs"!  ;)

> and then barbara l. basaj wrote:
>
> twink!, your barb isn't hostile, is she?

you wanna know the funniest thing about all this?   i thought that same
thing when i read that post... i often have such humorous thoughts but
decide better than to pester y'all with them!  so, imagine my
surprise... when barb (whom i don't even really know) comments exactly
what i was thinking!  pretty freaky... but funny as hell! :p

(and, no... my honey is not hostile... right don? becca? lisa d? lori j?
lisa s?... ask any of them!)

onto other things... cory sipper again!
well folks i went ahead and ordered her cd & 2 tapes... sent them off a
few days ago, enclosed a little note & my email addy!  and, what did i
find waiting?  an email from cory tonight to thank me for the order and
asking how i'd found her music.  she also mentioned that she will be
having a new cd out later this year!  y'all really should check it out!
email me if you need the url!

(applause if you're still with me!)
how about lyrics that have been changed?  i've a boot of "ghost" in
which emily sings "you come regular like seasons... painted through my
dreams" instead of "shadowing my dreams".  and, i have to admit that i
prefer that lyric... esp the way she sings it on that particular boot.
i've found that the incidence of "misheard lyrics" was really cut down
on for me by listening to tons of boots (with headphones!)... which
helped me get an "ear" for their words!

okay, guess that's about all i've got for now!
later,
twink!
(who can't wait to tell barb she's being "discussed" on the list when
she gets home from work!)

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date:         thu, 12 feb 1998 23:43:22 -0800
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the "girls" inspire me to do be a good person and do good things. i
admire their ability to bring those qualities to the forefront in my
life, without ever telling me what to do!

"my" collecting is a way to keep that "spirit" close to my heart and
active in my life.

to each his own..    peace     mel

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date:         fri, 13 feb 1998 03:31:07 -0000
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my system went down the other night and i lost all my e-mail. so if anyone
sent me poems or has poems i sent on the list please forward me a copy. i
also need people to resend me their list of what they had so i know what to
trade. if anyone requested a newsletter and didn't get a response e-mail me
back and i will send you one. if i left anything out that is important just
forward it to. thanks a head of time. missy

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hey kind friends!

email me if you would like the following:

      * a word or wordperfect copy of the 1200c insert (with
        comments from amy and emily on each song).  i will
        file-attach it and e-mail you back.  it's 12 pages.

      * to have any boot tape you have put onto cd or enhanced.

of all the people who have responded via e-mail to me about having
their tapes put onto cd (prolly 50) i have only had 2 people actually
send me tapes.  so, if you're waiting until i'm not too busy.... :)

take care, kind listees!  :)

~~~~~         *^*^*^*^*
|o| -all-    *   _o_   *      --yoda (to the tune of lola)--       |o|
|o| things   * _/ | \_ *  i met him in a swamp down in degoba /    |o|
|o| indigo   *    |    *  where it bubbles all the time like a     |o|
|o| %rick%   *   / \   *  giant carbonated soda / s-o-d-a, soda /  |o|
|o|          * _/   \_ *  i saw the little runt sitting there on a |o|
|o| foxmuldr  *       *   log / i asked him is name and in a raspy |o|
|o| @indy.net   *   *     voice he said yoda / y-o-d-a, yoda / yo  |o|
|o|               *       yo yo yo ya yoda - weird al yankovik     |o|

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>no one was saying that the "big-time collectors" are bad people...i just
>think...well, you know what i think, it doesn't need to be written
>again. as for emily's porsche...you're assuming a ritzy sportscar is a
>bad thing? emily donates so much time and money to the causes she or she
>and amy believe in. i don't think she should be denied spending some of
>her money on herself! she's more than earned it, don't you think?
>indulgences are fine. let's not judge each other here. someone was just
>making a point. a good point in my opinion...

yeah, yeah, yeah...i, of course, am not judging anyone, but look at what
you wrote:

>wow wow wow wow wow! emily's post about collecting a rare ig album with
>$500 to spend rather than using it to donate to a charity or other
>comparable usage was so well put! if we could bottle up all the energy
>that we devote to amy and emily we could move mountains. the girls
>enlighten us, motivate us, inspire us. why not become those people
>ourselves rather than just admiring them. ani difranco says it well when

my point was that if you follow the example of ig, you spend some of
your excess of yourself and some of your excess of charity...if you
think it's ok for emily to spend $50,000 on a porsche why isn't it
similarly ok for joe fan to spend $500 on an ig rarity?

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in a message dated 98-02-12 00:24:51 est, you write:

> here i sit in the land of plenty crying about my own virginity."

i always took this to mean that amy feels that she (or the singer of the song:
us :) have become too self-centered and are only contemplating their own
shortcomings and feelings in wishmode and not concentrating on others and
their daily stuggle to get the basics, like food, shelter, love.  so stop
reading those catalogs and reach out to someone :)

jude :)

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in a message dated 98-02-13 00:33:02 est, twink writes:

<< how about lyrics that have been changed?  i've a boot of "ghost" in
which emily sings "you come regular like seasons... painted through my
dreams" instead of "shadowing my dreams".  and, i have to admit that i
prefer that lyric... esp the way she sings it on that particular boot.
i've found that the incidence of "misheard lyrics" was really cut down
on for me by listening to tons of boots (with headphones!)... which
helped me get an "ear" for their words! >>
thank you!  i've been trying to figure that lyric out!  and on the early
version of "ghost" i have, it's interesting to hear emily sing it alone
without all of amy's added counter melodies (am i using that term right?).
personally, i prefer the version with both, but i love hearing the evolution
of their music.

early versions of "shame on you" have amy going down to the riverside and
taking off her "clothes" instead of "shoes".  i've wondered why she made that
change.  and emily changed from big ball of orange sinking "slowly" down to
sinking "slyly" down.  what are some others?

peace,

pam

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deb wrote:


> frank, if you're on the list, i owe you a beer at the next show. :-)
>
> i'm pleased that so many ig fans took the time to write.  rs has never
> respected ig, but maybe the response will get some attention.  probably not,
> but you never know. :-)
>

i cancelled my 16 year subscription to rs this past fall because the
girls are so misrepresented by what is supposed to be the wrold's best
rocka nd roll magazine, and they called me to ask me if i was going to
resubscribe, and i told them no. the rep started to give me the schpeel
about me being a valued customer, etc., and i told her that when they
started giving artists *who deserve it*, like the indigo girls, mary
chapin carpenter, etc. the cover and some decent record reviews and
space in the mag, i would be back and not until and that i, for one, was
getting really tired of seeing the spice girls half naked everywhere and
getting reviews for being nothing more than sex objects.

so make a difference.  boycott rs!!  ;)  <wink>

just my $782.46 worth....

peace-
karrie

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also known as "the devil's in our bones"

before i start,  i am not putting this up as an argument for
or against cd bootlegs.  we are all, presumably, independent and
intelligent adults who can decide for ourselves what we feel about
the issue of cd bootlegs for sale.  i have no part in the making of
this collection; i gain nothing from my post.  but i did
have the opportunity to listen to it and thought i would put up a review.
you can all decide for yourselves what you want to do with the
info. no need to flame me for simply using my ears and stating my opinion.

the track list was posted before, so i wont post it again.  in
summary, the disc is composed primarily of old, pre-epic recordings.
there are 5 tracks at the end from epic session, including an
alternate version of "prince of darkness".  all of the tracks are
very clear.  some songs, like heartache central time (a slow country
dirge sung by amy), play it again sam (solo emily), summertime, and
white house blues, exist in varying degrees of quality on a number iof
tape bootlegs in ciruclation.  some tracks, like 3 emily instrumental
guitar pieces (only those, come to think of it) i have not seen
on bootlegs (but i also dont have a definitive collection, so maybe
they are out there).

highlights for me were "play it agan sam" which i only have in
fair quality, sometimes fractured, versions on tape, "ballad of
squeaky fromme" which, while not the most vigorous version i've
heard, is still a rare track, and "heartache central time" which
is actually kinda funny.

overall, the quality is very good.  some vocals (squeaky for
example) are a bit muted but otherwise there is no scratchiness
or other major flaws that often come with bootlegs that are
many generations down the ladder.

last i knew, the only retail outlet for this cd is musicdrome
in atlanta (dont have the number but i'm sure they are listed).
again, i have no connection to the makers or sellers of this
cd and have nothing to gain here.  just putting out the review.

                          _________
amy p.                    \       /     who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
the original photo monk      \ /                --patty larkin
                http://www.crl.com/~pegasus

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date:         fri, 13 feb 1998 10:51:07 -0800
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hey folks!  i have information regarding a seminar in newton
massachusetts on saturday march 28 with michael o'brien who uses
nutrition, enzymes and friendly bacteria to activate the body's healing
system.  he's helped a lot of people who were labelled incurable by their
own physicians.  he also had developed "user friendly" methods of dealing
with obesity issues and degenerative diseases.  if you're interested in
info, e-mail me privately and i'll send more info.

sorry for the nigc.  faye.

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at the end of the song, who is it talking?  possibly michelle?  and does
anyone know what is being said?

st-st-st-st-st-steph

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              * what separates me from you now? - amy ray *
              *                  a + e = ig               *
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subject:      record collections and porsches

well, i can't let this topic go by without inserting my opinion.
personally i have a really big problem with excessive spending on
material things. even if i had the money, *i* would not buy a $500
album.  i think that people in general should re-examine what kind of
good their money is doing... but i also know that it is each person's
priority to spend their money in whatever way makes them happy.  for
example, emily drives a porsche... this is most certainly an
excessive purchase but i haven't yet heard anyone criticizing her for
owning it.  and my parents think i'm insane for having attended 6 ig
concerts and 3 ani concerts last year, totalling over $250 for
tickets.  but to me this seems worth it...and who is to say that the
$500 album won't bring someone as much happiness as the concerts
brought me?  and the people who have pointed out that we never know
what these collectors are doing with the rest of their money are so
right.  i think that it's great that people are seeing people like
amy and emily and using them as models for their personal lives, but
compare emily's porsche and someone else's record collection and
there really isn't much difference (relative to income, of course!).
giving money and time to support worthwhile causes is really an
admirable thing, and i just think that americans in general don't
really know the joy that can come from knowing you've made someone
else's life a little better...  we think of charity as dropping a few
coins in the salvation army pail at christmas or maybe leaving a few
canned goods by our door when the u.s. postal service offers to pick
them up once a year.  most of us would never really consider giving
if it infringed on our own relatively high standards of living...
this is not meant to offend... the "we" includes myself.  but before
we expect anyone to give up a record collection we should re-examine
what we can do without in our own lives, and decide whether you would
expect amy or emily to drive a geo.

okay, you have all lucked out because i have a class to go to, but i
guess to sum up this longer-than-intended message... it's easy to say
how we'd like the world to ideally be but most of us are really part
of the problem anyway! it's part of the american tradition to want
more than you need and to be selfish with the excess.  i'm not saying
it's right...just that we've all internalized it to some degree or
another.

my $.25 that could have been better spent on charity ;)

molly o+

ps  i know that no one meant to be critical in the first place and
this also is not meant to be critical of those who didn't mean to be
critical!
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this country is large and who's ever in charge
had better take the elevator down and put more than change in our cup
or else we are coming up
~ani difranco

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karrie wrote:
=)i cancelled my 16 year subscription to rs this past fall because the
[snip]
=)so make a difference.  boycott rs!!  ;)  <wink>

        i boycotted them long ago for completely ignoring quality
music (specifically pink floyd) in favor of fresh new faces and bold
new sounds (read:  shock rock, marylin manson).  i can understand
their point of view... indigo girls and pink floyd aren't necessarily
the most bold inventive sounds out there these days, but in my mind
the songwriting is superlative to anything else out there, and that's
why i listen.  rolling stone ignores such things, unfortunately.

        ever read q magazine?  great mag... based in london.
expensive as hell to subscribe from the states though... around $120 a
year i think.  possibly worth it though, if i had the money to throw
around.

        ttyl,
        mike feeney

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hey y'all,

the other day, somebody asked about letterman appearances, so here they are:

closer to fine - this first appearance is the only one with an interview.
dave rags
                        on amy about her tattoo!
land of canaan - just the two of them with no backup from paul's band
hammer and a nail
1-2-3 - chris mcguire is with them and does her verse
world falls
i don't wanna talk about it
least complicated - emily in a "fishin' hat"!
bury my heart at wounded knee - emily is way kewl in her shades and a dress!!!
three hits - amy in her sgt pepper period .... no comment
shame on you

either dave or paul must be big fans, because i don't think they've been on
the other late night shows anywhere near 10 times.  they did, however, appear
on the pat sajak show.  anybody else remember that one!?!  they did two songs
and there was a nice interview section, but the best part is lyle alzado
hitting on amy!

peace,

pam

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does anyone know what amy drives?  or are we getting too personal?

i'd guess a pickup truck!  and for some reason i'm thinking an older
model chevrolet!

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what to do on valentine's day?  wendy bucklew plays the troubadour (9081
santa monica blvd, l.a.) once again on saturday, february 14th at 8pm.  the
last two troubadour shows were free, but this time we're held to the ticket
charge for the headlining band, the pistol arrows, which is $12.50.  they
expect a sell-out (these particular arrows are in heavy rotation on l.a.
radio and i hear they're great) and we'd like to get some wendy supporters
in there.  wendy will play a full set and we hope to see you there.  heck,
we can honestly say that it won't be the same without you...

watch for coast to coast wendy bucklew dates to pop up on her website in the
next few months: http://www.hidwater.com/wendy.  and remember, wendy's first
album, "rage in the ring," is available via daemon records' website:
http://www.monsterbit.com/daemon.  thanks for your support.  for info
contact machado@flylive.com.

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date:         fri, 13 feb 1998 13:26:34 est
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i think it is michelle saying those mystery parts in the back...

i deceiphered the lyrics one morning after having read someone's post about
hearing them for the first time and not knowing what they said...

finally narrowed it down to

hey  hey
i can't talk to you
yeah yeah i know
well i gotta go ok
over 1 billion served

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> does anyone know what amy drives?  or are we getting too personal?
>
> i'd guess a pickup truck!  and for some reason i'm thinking an older
> model chevrolet!

he he...has someone watched bound a few too many times?  i bet that pickup
truck is red then :)

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>
> i think it is michelle saying those mystery parts in the back...

> over 1 billion served
>

aha!  another one for the misheard lines thread perhaps.  i thought it
was "one girl in the city" (which makes no sense).  and i also thought
it was emily who said that last line, but that michele said the lines
before it.

alright guys, i can't talk to ya, i gotta go :)
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on fri, 13 feb 1998, faye memolo wrote:

> does anyone know what amy drives?  or are we getting too personal?
>
> i'd guess a pickup truck!  and for some reason i'm thinking an older
> model chevrolet!
>
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i read somewhere it was some sort of toyota sport utility vehicle.
speaking of rolling stone, i believe it was in there, in the part they do
about celebrity stereo systems.

amy m.

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on thu, 12 feb 1998, alisa greenberg wrote:

> it was written about the anniversary of roe vs wade, and, incidently, is my
> favorite song on the awesome least compliated dub that has been floating
> around.  ;)

"it won't take long" was not written about the anniversary of roe v wade -
the *compilation* was meant to commemorate that.   most of the songs on
that compilation were performances of songs from the early 1970's by women
artists of the 1990's.   iwtl, however, was written by ferron (whose first
album didn't appear until 1978) for her 1984 album "shadows on a dime".

mat

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on thu, 12 feb 1998, deb wrote:

> i'm pleased that so many ig fans took the time to write.  rs has never
> respected ig, but maybe the response will get some attention.  probably not,
> but you never know. :-)

well we thought that two years ago when teresa esguerra wrote to complain
about the lack of ig coverage in rolling stone (and cc'ed the list with
the complaint), but all she got out of them was a sneer.   i shouldn't
think this will make any difference.

mat

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if anybody has any of the poems i sent on the list please forward me a copy
and the person who sent me their poem please send me another copy. if
anyone on the list has the puns i did or we are trading send your list and
if anyone has my k.d. list send me a copy and if anyone asked for a copy of
the newsletter and didn't get it please e-mail me again about it. if i left
anything out send it anyways. thanks a head of time for your help. i lost
everything on my system the other night when it crashed. missy

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hi everyone,

incase you don't know, the girls are in  the latest ms. magazine - (cute
picture of amy)!!!

mb

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ok i have to admit that i've been quickly skimming through my digests lately
because the misheard lyrics and first time posts don't really interest me,
and i am guilty of being an ig stuff collector (and rem too).

but, did i really catch that emily has a porsche?  really?  she just doesn't
seem to be the porsche type.  i mean, amy has a truck, no?  i guess i just
pictured both of them being very non materialistic.

oh well!  happy valenine's day every one!
lori

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hi, my name's melanie and i'm 22 yrs old..from melbourne australia :)
i've only recently gotten into the indigo girls' music and really love
it! trouble is, they're performing here next week..and none of my
friends even know them!! i was wondering if anyone on the list lived
around here and was interested in going to the concert..it'll be
excellent! although..i do suppose that most people would have their
tickets already.. (u see, i only just got back from overseas!).
hmm..it's worth a shot..so please email me if anyone's interested!

thanks!

love melanie :)

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on fri, 13 feb 1998, faye memolo wrote:

> does anyone know what amy drives?  or are we getting too personal?
>
> i'd guess a pickup truck!  and for some reason i'm thinking an older
> model chevrolet.
she drives a blue toyota forerunner. no i didn't stalk her, it was in a
recent article i read.

alayna

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hey all!

my $2.00 worth...

i saw amy drive away from a show at jannis landing in st. pete in 1992.  she
was driving a mini-van!!  maybe it was something provided by the sponsor of
the tour...

as for the porsche... i saw a black porsche driving up piedmont dr. in atlanta
one day.  the license plate was "wldpeac" and i immediately thought that it
could be amy, but maybe it was em!!

~~robin

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i do have to say that i am elated that emily drives a porsche.  i think
that she deserves to pamper herself with all the hard work she has done
for the art of music and the causes that she and amy back.  kudos to
emily! :-]

peace...rhonda

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the lady who ask about the colleen caodic cds and was sending for them
e-mail me back. i lost your e-mail address. missy

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okay, so is "wldpeac" world peace or wild peach?

my first response was,"oh, yeah, "wild peach." whatever, i mean we are
talking about the state of georgia." but then i thought, "no, wait, it
means "world peace," duh! or does it?"

jeez, fridays can be rough, especially after coming across a brand
spankin' new copy of "spice world" on the review shelf.  holy hankey in
the toilet, i certainly hope *i* don't have to catalog it!

and now back to sweet valley high...

bon (now beginning to wonder why i even posted)

> as for the porsche... i saw a black porsche driving up piedmont dr. in atlanta
> one day.  the license plate was "wldpeac" and i immediately thought that it
> could be amy, but maybe it was em!!

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i will be near wheeling, wv next week and was wondering if anyone lives
close so that we might be able to hang out. e-mail me privately. missy

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in a message dated 98-02-11 23:47:41 est, kevminlaw@aol.com writes:

<< now, i'm not saying that gay people never "lose their virginity" or that
the
trials of a gay person (amy or otherwise) are insignificant in any way (nor
do
i think amy is saying that).  but when i stood there watching her that night,
repeating the line over and over, overflowing with emotion, i just knew it
was
more personal than i had thought before.

those are my thoughts... anyone ever think the same or differently?
  >>

i completely agree!!!

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if anyone wants a zip file of the lyrics for ig songs...let me know by private
e-mail and i'll send it to you as an attached email.  there's about 30+ songs
in the zipfile.

jude :)

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i recently emailed the folks at weta asking them if they were planning on
airing the austin city lights show with ig on feb 28th and here is their
reply.

<<unfortunately we do not have that program in our february schedule. there
are
many fans like you out there who request "austin city limits" and "sessions at
west 54th" and "on tour." we are hoping to build some of these shows into our
summer program schedule.

feel free to call our program information line at 703-998-2626 during business
hours for up-to-date scheduling information for the current and upcoming
month.>>

does anyone know what sessions at west 54th is?  i'd like to know what it is
that i am missing ;(

jude :)

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hey kind friends!

i just wanted to take a moment out of my busy schedule and
wish you all a great valentine's day!

hopefully you're all spending it with someone really special.
as for me?  maybe next year ... heheheeh :)  take care y'all!


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subject:      shame on you lyric change

early versions of "shame on you" have amy going down to the riverside and
taking off her "clothes" instead of "shoes".  i've wondered why she made that
change.  and emily changed from big ball of orange sinking "slowly" down to
sinking "slyly" down.  what are some others?

peace,

pam

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two things,
i like the taking off the clothes but the shoes seems kinda religious to me.
like when jesus washed the others feet.

also whenever i listen to get out the map to me it sounds like emily is
saying "sitting in a broken tircle" it just doesn't sound like "circle" to
me. anyone else hear that?

chrisy

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ok, this isnt really ig related, but last night i saw gi jane, and lemme tell
ya, and excellent show for the good ole american gal.  well i hope everyone
has a beautiful and indiglowing valentines day!  here is something to send to
your honeys... ...

trooper

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date:         sat, 14 feb 1998 08:07:35 -00800
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date:         sat, 14 feb 1998 12:47:07 est
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amy drives a black jaguar....yay! :)  and i hear if you get around enough, you
can sometimes see it. ;)  that's what i'm waiting for when i move up to
decatur!

hope everyone has a nice valentine's day! :)

love,
katie

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date:         sun, 15 feb 1998 08:16:46 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks, just a quick one to remind you please not to
send attachments to the list... a lot of people on the
digest and even some bounce folks can't read them - it
just shows up as pages and pages of junk...

ta - more later,
sherlyn
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date:         sat, 14 feb 1998 12:58:12 -0000
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if anyone at all has a copy of my poems please send them. i also need the
person who sent hers to me again. missy

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date:         sat, 14 feb 1998 08:01:29 -0800
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subject:      re: d.c. area fans: austin city on weta - not!
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hi jude,

i recently picked up a dvd called  best of sessions at west 54th. it has 17
clips of artists who've appeared on the weekly program and includes ani
difranco, shawn colvin, rickie lee jones, patty smith, ben folds five, susanne
vega, emmylou harris, jane siberry,nil lara (who i'd never heard of, but like a
lot) and richard thompson among others. it's very similar to acl but seems to be
more of a studio setting. there is an audience, but the sound quality is
wonderful. they have a website at www.sessionsatwest54th.com

resa

>does anyone know what sessions at west 54th is?  i'd like to know what it is
>that i am missing ;(
>
>jude :)

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date:         sat, 14 feb 1998 17:09:07 -0500
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subject:      scary happening (igc)

hey kind friends --

this happened months and months ago, but i never told y'all, and i just
had an evil flashback that reminded me of it.  now maybe i was
momentarily insane when this happened, but i was in the grocery store one
day and you know how they play bad elevator-type music in there?  well, i
heard an instrumental version of what, to my best knowledge, was least
complicated!  the vocal were replaced by a gosh-darned jazzy
flute...people, this was frightening!!!!  it was wrong!!!!!  i was
traumatized by it, and i flipped out right there! ;)  so, has anybody
else ever heard of such thing being done?  i doubt that i'd be mistaking
least complicated, so i'm thinking that was what it must've been....how
horrible!!!  (please don't flame me if you are a fan of elevator
music....)

carolyn
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date:         sun, 15 feb 1998 09:46:19 +1100
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subject:      sydney listmeets
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hey everyone,

here're the details for the sydney listmeets...

the venue is the state theatre, which is on market street
between george and pitt streets.  it's really easy to
find, so if you don't know where it is, don't worry (but
if you're driving be warned, most of the area is one-way
streets).

===
thursday feb 26 - the meet will be dinner before the show.
6pm at primos, which is a small restaurant on the top
floor of the queen victoria building, at the market street
end.  we won't really need to book but we should get a
general idea of numbers.  so, if you want to come and your
name isn't on the list below, please submit your head count
to penelope at pdodd@lisp.com.au.  (thanks penelope. :)

so far we have me+1, anna h., pen, andrew+1, jk, madeline+1
and ian.  we'll be the goofy looking bunch probably all
wearing ig shirts... :)

====
friday feb 26 - the plan is for an informal sort of "picnic"
in the pitt street mall.  6pm, near hmv, which is about
halfway down the mall.  there will be stuff open, so everybody
buy/bring their own food, and we'll sit and eat together.
there are benches and stuff, so just have a look around and
we'll be there.  we won't be taking a head count for this one,
so just show up if you're coming!  again, look for the goofy
looking bunch wearing ig shirts. :)  or you can look for me -
i'm short, asian and will try to remember to wear my map demo
tour shirt (has a big "map: demonstration not for sale" on the
front).  i probably won't be there at 6pm on the dot though -
i have to work...

okay, i think that's everything.  mail me if you have any
questions - but submit your head counts for thursday night
to penelope at pdodd@lisp.com.au, not to me...

happy happy, and much anticipation - six days 'til the first
melbourne show!!
sherlyn
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date:         sat, 14 feb 1998 17:56:05 -0000
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i am putting together a pen pal booklet of either e-mail addresses or home
addys anyone interested send me your e-mail address or home addy to my box
and include any message you want to say.

i am still looking for ig poems, melissa etheridge poems or kd poems for my
newsletter in october. i am also looking for quotes and a few puns.
anything else you want to add send it and i will see if i want to ad it.
most of the time i do.

missy

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date:         sat, 14 feb 1998 15:12:37 -0800
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people collect for different reasons and i don't see a problem spending
your money on collectibles - and i don't think it makes one less of a fan,
or in this case, a hypocrite (necessarily). i would hope that being
inspired to positive action by the indigo girls and the act collecting ig
memorabilia could co-exist.

>frankly, i am much more concerned about those who take advantage of
>these collectors and the artists they collect by extracting enormous

the collector sets the price, so i don't think they are being taken
advantage of unless they are ignorant of market value (and i have
personally been in that boat;)

>profits (often from things like autographs not intended for resale, or
>magazines bought in bulk from newstands and resold months later at 10x
>the price).

yes, this is lame and opportunistic. yet people are willing to pay....

my beef would have to be with the greed i've witnessed time and time again
when it comes to the freebies!  i mean how many guitar picks and set lists
do you need?  i have a few picks and a couple of set lists and a promo
poster.  but if i had 50 of each, they would be a hell of a lot less
meaningful than the few i have.  in fact, the last few guitar picks i did
get, i gave away.  the pillaging (of props and anything not nailed down) of
the jcs set after the last seattle show comes to mind as a good example of
this kind of greed.  additionally, sitting at a listener party with a pad
of contest entry blanks on your lap, stuffing the box to win as much ig
promo material and autographed items as possible, also exemplifies my
point.  inadvertantly, the "girls" are inspiring this kind of behavior, and
it's real sad.

"i'm not really like that."

bbertiaux@earthlink.net

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date:         sat, 14 feb 1998 19:12:48 -0500
reply-to:     jami m klein <jamik@juno.com>
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from:         jami m klein <jamik@juno.com>
subject:      nigc:  viva la diva

hey all.
quick question.
if i love the viva la diva song "running into history"
that's on the thrive compilation,
which album should i buy?
ellen james society....viva la diva (greatest hits)...or fin de siecle...
thanks for any info....
jami
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date:         sat, 14 feb 1998 14:27:10 -0500
reply-to:     mary clark <mclark@orion.ramapo.edu>
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from:         mary clark <mclark@orion.ramapo.edu>
subject:      emily's porsche
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i'm sorry, everyone has the right to drive whatever they want, but i can't
help thinking of emily's version of "shame on you"  something like, "my
servants they wash the windows, they shine in the sun.  i wake up early in
the morning sometimes to see what a beautiful job they've done.  let's
have someone put on some tunes for us, sing along on our incredibly
expensive guitars, and do nothing all day.  down by my riverside take off
my shoes and wash these sins away - and the river says"
guess what?  ha!
        don't think that i don't wish i had enough money for a subaru
legacy outback with wood trim and leather interior - i just think it's
kind of ironic, coming from emily...
:)  (fitting into flame retardent clothing)
mc

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date:         sun, 15 feb 1998 09:01:54 +0800
reply-to:     jodi <joadster@space.net.au>
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from:         jodi <joadster@space.net.au>
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at the end of 'hey, hey it's saturday' last night, daryll announced the
girls will be on the show next week.....21st february!!! lucky melbournians :)

now all i gotta do is figure out how to get my new fangled vcr working;)

joadster
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date:         sat, 14 feb 1998 20:17:50 -0500
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from:         sharon parker/kirsten shonle <isis1@megalink.net>
subject:      re: collecting ig stuff- my thoughts..
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wait just a minute...did i miss a post in here where we discuss the merit
of what kind of car emily drives?
   i don't mean to be confrontational, but doesn't that sort of fit the
definition of a and e's personal lives? i guess i think that mentioning
that emily drives a porche is borderline ok, but having a discussion about
whether any of us aprove is not...in my opinion.  not a flame, ok?? just my
two cents...
      peace,
            sharoane

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> no one was saying that the "big-time collectors" are bad people...i just
> think...well, you know what i think, it doesn't need to be written
> again. as for emily's porsche...you're assuming a ritzy sportscar is a
> bad thing? emily donates so much time and money to the causes she or she
> and amy believe in. i don't think she should be denied spending some of
> her money on herself! she's more than earned it, don't you think?
> indulgences are fine. let's not judge each other here. someone was just
> making a point. a good point in my opinion...
>
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date:         sat, 14 feb 1998 21:35:35 -0500
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from:         chrisy muhler <remlover11@aol.com>
subject:      valentine's day blue. . .

well, it's been a bad day.
after being lied to
and bitched out by this psycho venomous girl
and being home alone pouting on this lovey dovey day (okay so i'm bitter)

what ig songs are good for the loney and the mad?

chrisy

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date:         sat, 14 feb 1998 18:41:00 -0800
reply-to:     leslie holeman <holeman@cats.ucsc.edu>
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just to let you australians know, your branch for the 1/26 warfield tree is:
jodi <joadster@space.net.au>
so if you want a copy of this san francisco show, she's the one to contact!
leslie

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