lifeblood: listlogs: 1998-02d


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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 00:02:25 -0500
reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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from:         deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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at 05:54 pm 2/21/98 -0600, angela c lindahl wrote:
>but someone else had commented on the picture of a woman in a kayak in
>part 2 of the curve article.  "who is this woman?" she asked.
>
>well, i also subscribe to curve, and received my issue a couple of days
>ago.  i thought the woman was amy--with blond hair!!!  she is wearing a
>baseball cap, but the hair definitely looks blond to me.

it's definitely amy (having trouble figuring out why people think there
would be a pic of anyone else in that article?!), but her hair does look
much lighter than usual.

oh, and it's definitely a kayak too. :-)

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 00:00:09 -0500
reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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subject:      re: indigo girls fan club
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at 05:06 pm 2/20/98 -0500, gillian dukes wrote:
>to those of you who responded to my message about the fan club, thank you
>kindly.
>i think we have three choices:
>
>1)  put up with the present lack of information
>2)  lobby the existing fan club to make improvements
>3)  take action to provide our own service - surely we can't do any worse.

aren't we already doing #3?  especially now that sherlyn's running the
ig-news list.  we can't count on rcam or sony to provide us with timely
concert dates and release info, so we get it ourselves and share.

i should also mention that a&e's letters from the last fan club newsletter
are posted at my ig index <http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo/indigo.html>.

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 00:22:22 +0000
reply-to:     j lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>
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from:         j lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>
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        hey y'all...

        just to clear this issue up.  it's amy in the picture.  she's in a
kayak...a fixed bulkhead, flatwater type...prolly a prion or kiwi.  only
bad thing about this photo is that she's not wearing a pfd...not a good
example!!

                        my two cents...

                                jen

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 00:27:32 -0000
reply-to:     allison hastings <alhastings@mindspring.com>
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hi,
     soryy for the nigc, but i'm looking for a twelve inch single by
suzanne vega.  i've been trying to find the dance remix of "blood makes
noise".  if you have a copy (or know of where i could get one) i would be
really appreciative.

thanks ahead of time!
allison

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 00:57:33 -0500
reply-to:     lisalisaa@aol.com
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subject:      dreamsssss

i almost hate  to admit  this, but i have had one really vivid dream about
the indigo  girls. my excuse is that i had  it the night after i spent that
day last october hanging out with them at the seminole village in florida for
the article i was writing.

ok, so i had a dream that i was in nashville with an ex and we were going to
see graceland (i know it's in memphis...it's a dream, ok...) so we're in the
bathroom and i'm going on and on about how ridiculous it is that they pipe in
elvis tunes (this was actually my reaction in real life) and amy and emily
walked into the bathroom and were agreeing that it was creepy. later, we
bumped into them in the parking lot. we were sitting on top of our car and we
had kid fears playing on the car stereo and they laughed at us, especially my
ex who was air-guitaring. emily got on the bus and came out and handed my ex
a guitar that was signed. and i was pissed off. really pissed. i was like
hey, what about me? and emily just shrugged her shoulders and said sorry.

as the bus was pulling away, amy leaned out a window and tossed me a baseball
cap, a kazoo and a yo-yo??!!??!.

and then i woke up....go figure, huh.

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 01:07:51 est
reply-to:     fauna88@aol.com
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in a message dated 98-02-22 00:08:18 est, indigo@mindspring.com writes:
<< >1)  put up with the present lack of information
>2)  lobby the existing fan club to make improvements
>3)  take action to provide our own service - surely we can't do any worse.
>>

you know, i've been thinking long and hard about this... i'd been trying to
get stuff from the fan club for ages, to no avail. i had been thinking that it
would be really cool to be getting stuff in the mail about amy and em, like
little snippets of "news" about them and where they're playing when and color
pictures of hats you can buy which say "indigo girls" and stuff like that. . .
however, now i am pretty content with everything that i have that has to do
with them.  i don't know if perhaps a and e just don't want to promote
themselves by having official stuff sent out all the time or if the rc
management just sucks, but lately i've been wondering if the indigo girls'
intense fan base doesn't really make up their fan club?! i mean, here we are,
a bunch of their truest fans, spreading and learning news and information
about them, trading boots and other good stuff, helping each other out (guitar
chords, etc), befriending each other, having area list meets, etc (*and* with
all of this, possibly even making the world a better place...?)

i realize that there are some people out there who don't have access to email
or the internet, and/or who may not get to ever see them in concert.  and i
completely feel for these fans, and wish they could be as fortunate as others
--- but for me right now, i would just like to say that i am grateful that i
have the list for all of my ig needs, and - while i think that if they *say*
there is a fan club, there oughta be one in working order - i don't think that
being an official fan would necessarily do anything for me.

i think amy and emily should be very proud and glad and happy that we the
fans, who love the music, are the ones who are shamelessly promoting it.

my thoughts.

~flora

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date:         sat, 21 feb 1998 23:43:31 -0800
reply-to:     adamwm@adnc.com
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from:         adam mullet <adamwm@adnc.com>
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i just wanted to thank everyone that responded to my "concert question"
i posted last week.  it was great to live vicariously through your
experiences.

in case anyone was wondering, the artist that got the most response was
suzanne vega.  runner up was tracy.

thanks again!
adam

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 01:24:33 -0800
reply-to:     celeste <us@ecis.com>
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subject:      i'm not gone yet!
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y'all can still write me and say goodbye! i'm just sittin' here reading my
mail while i wait for the net service to be turned off! (ok, that's no
excuse for not having a life!) except for twink!...um...so...bye!

pax, celeste

p.s. so, what is that dude saying in hkf?? (in the middle and at the end)

p.p.s. wait...i guess that's all...

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 01:32:50 -0800
reply-to:     celeste <us@ecis.com>
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ok...i'm hoping to start a new thread before i leave...so...everyone post
your dreams...past and present...now!...ok...got that out...

pax, celeste:)

p.s. here's my dream: ok, so i was at a concert and em was walking down the
aisle, and someone touched her butt as she walked by them...she got really
pissed off and they said their hand just slipped...wait...i touched her
butt...she said "yeah, right, your hand really slipped!" (sarcastic)...i
forget what i said...

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 01:47:25 -0800
reply-to:     celeste <us@ecis.com>
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from:         celeste <us@ecis.com>
subject:      re: dreams...
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at 01:32 am 2/22/98 -0800, you wrote:
>ok...i'm hoping to start a new thread before i leave...so...everyone post
>your dreams...past and present...now!...ok...got that out...
>
>pax, celeste:)
>
>p.s. here's my dream: ok, so i was at a concert and em was walking down the
>aisle, and someone touched her butt as she walked by them...she got really
>pissed off and they said their hand just slipped...wait...i touched her
>butt...she said "yeah, right, your hand really slipped!" (sarcastic)...i
>forget what i said...

what a freaky little kid!

pax, celeste:)


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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 02:10:09 -0800
reply-to:     celeste <us@ecis.com>
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from:         celeste <us@ecis.com>
subject:      aaarrrggghhh!!!!!
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this damn computer's not sorry for me not getting mail,  damnit!!!!!
it keeps saying "sorry, you have no new mail." bullshit!!!!!
somebody write to me!!!!!!please? um...sorry 'bout that...forget everything
i said!

-anonymous (ok, it's me, celeste...i'm ashamed!)don't remember me by this!

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 10:56:37 +0000
reply-to:     matthew j smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         matthew j smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      differences between men & women
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on sat, 21 feb 1998, alyssa roberge wrote:

> tell ya the truth, there is definitely a big difference... i've definitely
> noticed that woman are much more nurturing, understanding, fragile if you will
> (and mind you when i say that i am not saying that men are stronger physically
> (we all know that's not the truth, heh heh we are just as strong as they are),
> i'm talking emotionally). women are more drawn together towards one another
> (now this may just have to do with a cartain, uh... monthly occurance, but it
> may also be something totally different) and women tend to stick up and
> support one another while men tend to constantly compete with one another.
> women are also usually the people other women tend to turn to if they're,
> like, crying or something, (i don't mean to offend any men or anything but
> that's just the way i see it.) and women tend to be more supportive of one
> another and it's like we're united in a way while men really are not (again,
> maybe it's because we share something in common with each other~and yes i'm
> talking about that monthly happening again and no i'm not obsessed with it...
> that's just what i think). this was just my opinion... does anyone agree with
> me or am i just babbling my head off?

well there may be some truth in that but i read a lovely little article in
the guardian (a faintly left-wing british national newspaper) about women
in journalism, which suggested that women (or at least some of them)
aren't all that supportive of each other at all.   this woman,
incidentally, normally writes for the daily mail - an arch-right-wing rag
which scorns any notion of differences between men and women (other than
the physical aspects, obviously).


source: the guardian  date: 07 july 1997  g2t  page: 27
the trouble with women
jaci stephen

the debate began with a claim that newspapers were becoming too feminine.
mary ann sieghart responded in media guardian last week (right) by arguing
that increased numbers of women in senior positions have lead to the
'humanising' of journalism. jaci stephen strongly disagrees

it had to be a joke. perhaps i had been asleep for nine months and woken up
on april fool's day. i looked at the top of the page to check, but it said
monday, june 30. what was going on? according to the guardian media
article before me, women in journalism are 'easier to work with'; they are
'naturally good' at 'looking after people' and 'treating people like
people'; they 'tend to listen more' and are 'more open to ideas' than
their male counterparts.

looking back on my 13 years  in journalism, i almost expired with laughter
at the unrecognisable picture being painted of these women . . . by these
women. while i have worked for a handful of wonderful, creative and
supportive women, my experience in the main has been that executive female
journalists are a terrifying bunch of unscrupulous, spiteful,
manipulative, cruel and often grossly unprofessional cows. not all; but
certainly enough to knock a sizeable hole in the argument being made by
mary ann sieghart last week.

male executives can be, and many are, monsters; yet my working
relationships with men have been far more enjoyable than those i have had
with women. there is only one man i have vowed never to work for again,
but the list of women grows longer. the only potentially explosive scene i
recall with a male executive was more than seven years ago, when, after
the daily mail's peter wright had praised an anecdote in a colour piece i
had written, i proudly told him i had made it up. no amount of assurance
from me that this was how you achieved the colour in such pieces could
persuade him to print the offending paragraph, but there were no angry
scenes; just redness. and a promise that i would go forth and not sin
again.

in every area, it is women who have been worse to work with. let's take the
main theme of last week's article, that women are responsible for
'humanising' both the content and working relationships in journalism.
last year, a female executive rang to congratulate me on a piece i had
written. as this is a fairly rare phenomenon (though not, i have to say,
among the women i work for at the daily mail), i was rather pleased. then
there was a silence. then, ever so sweetly, she asked me whether i would
approach a friend whose partner was just about to undergo radiotherapy for
cancer, and try to get an interview.

not being someone who finds those 'and how do you feel, starting treatment
for the big c?' questions easy, i said no. 'but you're a very good
friend,' she said. yes. of his. not yours. the same woman later asked me
to interview an actor. after the copy had been delivered, i waited for a
response. and waited. finally, i rang. 'oh, jaci,' she said, in uriah heep
tones. 'it wasn't sophisticated enough for us. i mean, you called him a
great actor.' 'er, he is.' 'yes, but you can't say that.' there was more:
'if i thought anything could have been salvaged from it, i would have rung
you, but there's just nothing.' now, i know interviews are not my strong
point. when i interviewed david essex, i returned with two hours of tape
consisting almost exclusively of my voice crooning lines like: 'oh you
were great in godspell in the seventies and then i loved that'll be the
day and i bought all your singles and to tell the truth i've always loved
you . . .' on and on and on, punctuated only every 20 minutes with a tiny
'yeah' from david.

so i am willing to acknowledge my areas of weakness and accept criticism
where it is due. but there are ways and ways of telling people you think
that what they have written is garbage, and many women go in for
humiliation and downright cruelty. forget 'treating people like people';
women are just as capable as men of making you feel like a piece
of dirt on the bottom of someone's shoe. i later learned i joined a long
list of writers who have vowed never to work for this woman again.

when it comes to being petty and spiteful, women take the biscuit, too; at
times it is like being back in the schoolyard. on one newspaper, my column
was dropped by a woman in order to feature a pair of whacking great
breasts on the page. i was told i could use my lead if it would hold until
the following week, but i would still be paid the full fee for both weeks.
then i left the paper and received a message on my answer machine telling
me that as i was going to another paper 'for a lot of money', she would
not pay me what was owed. petty, spiteful and, above all, highly
unprofessional.

women are often resentful of other women, which is why women generally pay
men more than they pay their female colleagues. they like to see certain
women doing well, but actually have very little interest in anyone who
falls outside their own small clique and narrow focus. little of what
these women commission in the name of 'humanisation' speaks to women as a
whole; they occupy a largely one-dimensional world, speaking to women
whose lives simply reflect their own - the world of women juggling careers
and children. the real humanisation in journalism has, ironically, been
led by men's magazines like gq, which recognised the value of human
interest stories long before these women jumped on the bandwagon, and
which continue to provide a far greater variety than many newspapers do.

isolated incidents aside, there are hundreds of women (and doubtless many
men) who could fill books with evidence that counters the rose-coloured
picture of women in journalism in last week's piece. but is the world of
journalism any different to that of other media worlds? well, yes. in
working with women in television, i have found support and encouragement
among women for each other at a level rare in journalism.

one reason may be that in television there is a much quicker turnover of
staff. with most people on short-term contracts, the culture is similar to
that among actors, where you have to get on with large numbers of people
very quickly. there are also greater numbers of young people coming in at
the top end of the industry who are filled with energy and enthusiasm and
are not buried in old rivalries that began long before they were born.
in journalism, women executives are still pretty much part of the old
guard. some of them i admire and like enormously - genevieve cooper,
veronica wadley, sue douglas, sue carroll, mary riddell. but many of them
are bitches from hell, be in no doubt about that. and the editors i have
worked for? john leese, john bryant, david english, martin dunn, richard
stott, colin myler, piers morgan, paul dacre? poppets, all.

   (c) 1997.  all data on the cd-rom is in copyright.
  contact guardian newspapers ltd for permission to reproduce

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 09:29:34 -0500
reply-to:     rick hodgin <foxmuldr@indy.net>
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(nigc) i had a dream that i sold a project i was working on and the
cash profits i took after taxes were almost exactly 2 million
dollars.  now in this dream i did several things after getting this
money.  i moved, i fixed up my car, i did some practical stuff.  i
also went to see my friend in england and did some other traveling.

(igc)  but the coolest part was i found out that there was a concorde
flight that left the united states and flew to australia and if i left
immediately i was going to be able to make it to the next indigo girls
concert.  so i loaded everything up, paid $28,000 one-way cost for a
flight on the concorde to go see ig down under!!!!  hehehe  i showed
up and went to the show, was able to get front row tickets by paying
someone for them and here's the cool part.  i am there with my sister
and one of her friends and another person i don't know.  the girls
are playing their set and they stop in between two songs and ask me
if i was the same person that had front row tickets to the dec 9 iu
show and i say "yes!" and they both stare at me for a moment and then
invite me up on stage.  they ask me where i'm from and i told them
near iu.  they ask me why i'm in australia and i told them it was to
see their concert.  they both couldn't believe it.  they asked me if
i played the guitar and i said yes and then they let me play chickenman
with them (which is very interesting because i don't know that ig song
on the guitar) and i did it and they thought i was great!  i did a
harmony with amy on the opening parts "i am an only child" and it
was really fun.  i wasn't nervous or anything.  i was just singin' and
smilin'.

now .... is that some wild wild wild fantasy?  or (more likely) a
case of bad-food-induced hallucinations taking place in dreamland.
heheheeh :)  in any event i woke up this morning with a really big
smile on my face as if i'd actually been there.  very nice. :)

now ... back to reality.

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hey there!

      anybody out there know the correct address or whatever for the pollstar
site?  i've been seeing alot of posts about tour info which refer to pollstar,
but i don't know how to go check it myself...  can anyone help me out?

thanks!
lisa

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ok, it's morning, and i think i'm sane again:) ( yeah, i know, i'm sposed
to be gone, but it's like one of those movies where someone gets shot and
says, like, a whole speech before he actually dies...you know what i mean :)

amyray, i was *listening* to gotm, and i noticed that em's voice has
changed...or was she doing that on purpose?...it sounds, like, higher, or
something...i dunno...you people know?...

pax, celeste :)

p.s. those little stars are on "listening" cuz i wasn't singing along:)

p.p.s. sorry about last night...

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since so many people still aren't sure...

ben and jerry's newport folk festival is usually the 2nd weekend in
august. this year it's sat and sun, august 8 and 9, 1998. there is also
usually a special smaller indoor performance friday night before the
festival at the host hotel.

and people aren't kidding when they say to make hotel reservations
early. if you intend to go, try to get res by the first week in april...
seriously. and also note that area hotels jack up their prices
considerably for the folk and jazz festivals.

there are also camping facilities somewhat close by.

you can save some money by staying at motels 30+ miles away from
newport, if you don't mind getting up extra early.

it usually starts at 11 or 11:30am. the gates open between 9 and 10am.
people get there *very* early in the am, and when the gates open...
intrepid souls race to get prime area space up front.

it goes on rain or shine. it used to rain that weekend during every odd
year, while even years were always sunny. however, in 1997... it didn't
rain...

:o)
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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 10:17:33 -0500
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hello!
my partner, heather, and i will be moving to tucson, arizona this summer.
instead of just renting a u-haul and moving, though, we're going to sell most of
our stuff and camp our way across the united states. we're happily anticipating
our trip to last anywhere from 8 to 14 weeks. our working itinerary will take us
through the following states (not in order): pa, va, oh, il, wv, kt, ia, mo, ks,
ne, mt, wy, co, ut, nm, and az.

we are hoping that through people such as yourself, we can discover some
information not found in travel guides. we would like to learn some general
information about your area and any local 'points of interest' that you think we should
see. also, if you know of any areas where we could safely (and cheaply) do
backcountry camping, please let us know (we've even had offers of people letting set
up camp in their backyard!--we would be happy to pay ro stay in a yard or do a
work exchange)

info on parks and hiking opportunities, museums ,  music venues, food
(preferably vegetarian-friendly restaurants, health food stores, and farmer's
markets), name and number of a trustworthy auto mechanic, theaters
(especially imax and
independent films), and fun, local stuff that only the 'natives' know about.

just a little bit and heather and me: we're both 26 and have been together
2 1/2 years. we met in a car accident (long, cute story i'd be happy to tell you
if you're interested!) and currently live in philadelphia. i'm a master's
student in the journalism program at temple u; i had taught 8th grade english for 4
years (and loved it!), but hated being in the closet. heather is studying
photography and holistically recovering from lyme disease (another long story i'd be happy
to share).

thank you for your time. if there's anything we can do for you, please
just ask. we both feel strongly about community and helping out where we can!

take care.....look forward to hearing from you and learning more about
you, too!

cathy
cbusha@nimbus.temple.edu

ps please respond privately...i don't wanna junk up the list!

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 11:17:12 -0000
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  i have dreamed of the indigo girls many times before rather it is asleep
or day dreaming. some were goog and some were not. some were about talking
with them, singing with them or discussing the days events and some were
more personal. one i will share with all today is the time i was at a
concert and i got invited back stage and the indigo girls wanted to chat
about some newsletter (out loud) that i do. so i go back and discuss my
ideas and they think i am on a good start and offered some advise. it might
be hard at first, but never give up. you will adventualy gather many
readers and people who contribute stuff. then we discussed my special issue
about poems about them, melissa etheridge, and k.d. lang. they were for it.
then i woke up. missy

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 11:56:23 -0500
reply-to:     cathy <catherineann@mindspring.com>
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okay, so i'm probably ~way~ behind on asking this, and everyone already
knows it but me, but where is this "famous" chickenman soc page
on the web?? i just *gotta* read this!!!

thanks so much!!!
cathy :)

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here's my $0.02 worth for the last 10 cds

1. ani - living in clip
2. billie myers - growing, pains
3. tori amos - boys for pele
4. melissa etheridge - yes i am
5. ig - 1200 curfews
6. shawn colvin - a few small repairs
7. sara mclachlan - surfacing
8. tracy chapman - new beginning
9. chris isaak - baja sessions
10. toto - legend

siti
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color=3d"#000000" face=3d"comic sans ms">here's my $0.02 worth for the =
last 10 cds<br><br>1. ani - living in clip<br>2. billie myers - growing, =
pains<br>3. tori amos - boys for pele<br>4. melissa etheridge - yes i =
am<br>5. ig - 1200 curfews<br>6. shawn colvin - a few small =
repairs<br>7. sara mclachlan - surfacing<br>8. tracy chapman - new =
beginning<br>9. chris isaak - baja sessions<br>10. toto - =
legend<br><br>siti</p>
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hi all,

i have been to r.i. for the b & j's folk fest twice, 1995 & 96. it was
well worth the 600 miles i traveled to get there, both times. the
setting is incredible!!!  the atmosphere is great!!!  the music is
awesome!!!!  if you can make it.....go! you won't be sorry.  i intend to
round up a few people and make the trip again this year.  how could i
miss dar, alison krauss, ani and the girls all in one weekend??!! and
that is just the first few acts booked!!!  hope to see lots of y'all
there.

peace, staci

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ok my dream:
i am at this concert, and it was so amazing i'm in the front row and
it's the best..and at one point amy looks down and winks at me! so i
really really want them to sign something for me but it doesn't look
like they're gonna be anywhere in sight after the concert. so i'm
walking to my car, and amy & em are standing next to this car in the
parking lot! so i go over and start talking to them and amy asks "are
you a musician?" and i'm like: "yeah, i am." and emily says:"maybe you
could jam with us sometime?"
(note: this is like my #2 biggest dream/goal, to play with the indigos!
so in real life i'd be fainting now or crying or something!! so don't
lame me for this it was just a dream!!)
but i just look at them kind of funny and say, "um, i'll be bigger than
you ever were!" and just walk away.

dream #2.
i'm going to this class on playing guitar, and it turns out amy and
emily are teaching it! and i had brought one of my indigo girls books
cuz i was having trouble with something, and i was thinking wow! i
should get them to sign it! so i start to go up to amy, but then all
these screaming women run in and mob her! so i'm trying to push my way
through the crowd but it's not working, there's like 100 women!
so i just give up and turn around to go outside and emily's sitting out
there! i walk past her just kind of glance at her, and then i realize
who she is! so i turn around and go sit by her and i say, "why are you
out here?" and she says,"oh, they never pay much attention to me.." and
we just sit out there and talk about things for a long time. i don't
know what happened to amy.

lamia

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all shoot her!*

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> *who won't tell her dreams a/b sarah m to the fumbler list cuz they'd
> all shoot her!*

   that's almost as good as the time i was at a tori concert, and my
lesbian friend looked over at me, and said, "i'd kill to be that piano
bench."

   darius

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does anyone know how to get onto a newsgroup that you can download a list
of newsgroups available. everyone i tried they said was unavailable. missy

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melissa singhaus wrote:
>
> does anyone know how to get onto a newsgroup that you can download a list
> of newsgroups available. everyone i tried they said was unavailable. missy

this might help.  i have found this service useful when i've wanted to
subscribe or just find a newsgroup that my isp doesn't carry.

http://www.dejanews.com/

hope it helps!

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> sorry for the non ig related stuff, but did i catch in a post that ani is
>bi-?

"some days the line i walk turns out to be straight
other days the line tends to deviate
i've got no criteria for sex or race
i just want to hear your voice, i just want to see your face."

(ani, "in or out")

i think that answers your question :-)

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>at 05:54 pm 2/21/98 -0600, angela c lindahl wrote:
>>but someone else had commented on the picture of a woman in a kayak
in
>>part 2 of the curve article.  "who is this woman?" she asked.
>>
>>well, i also subscribe to curve, and received my issue a couple of
days
>>ago.  i thought the woman was amy--with blond hair!!!  she is
wearing a
>>baseball cap, but the hair definitely looks blond to me.
>
>it's definitely amy (having trouble figuring out why people think
there
>would be a pic of anyone else in that article?!), but her hair does
look
>much lighter than usual.

deb, with all due respect, i think you are being a little unfair
to either angela or the woman she mentions; when i first saw the
picture, i couldn't quite tell who is was and i am still not certain.

it honestly looks like emily or the the very least, amy bleached
her hair, making her look like emily.

you also said you had trouble figuring out why a photo of
someone else is in a interview with amy?  if you forget again,
look up the word "duo."

deb, i am not trying to be sarcastic or mean to you
in any way, but the photo's inclusion did look a
little strange to me and now i know i am not
the only one who thinks so.  ; -)

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>amyray, i was *listening* to gotm, and i noticed that em's voice has
>changed...or was she doing that on purpose?...it sounds, like, higher,
or
>something...i dunno...you people know?...
>
i noticed that, because i bought 1200 curfews and sots before i went
back and got strange fire and some of the earlier ones, and i think on
left me a fool, and hey jesus and some of those earlier songs her voice
sounded lower and more gravely than it does now...like more like a cross
between amy&emily's voices and now it seems a lot higher and more
pure...

lamia

"there must've been a thousand things you would die for, but i could
hardly think of two.."
--emily

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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 08:57:05 aes
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hasn't anyone written to the list about the girls on hey hey it's saturday
on the weekend? i expected to come in this morning to work and find loads
of stuff about it. maybe everyone who saw it doesn't have email at home
either. i hope everyone saw it because it was awesome. i watched it with my
family and my brother and sister were going as insane as i was waiting to
see it. did anyone else who saw it get the impression that darrell summers
loves them? he was going beserk in the lead up to it! maybe he's not such a
loser jerk after all....

it's been so long since i've seen them! amy looked so amazingly happy. her
face was just beaming. the camera never seemed to leave her face. i didn't
see nearly enough of emily although i did see her wave to someone in the
audience at the start. they just played soy acoustically and god it was
amazing. all the little differences in the way they sang it were so great
like when they got to the "can we check your car" part amy was going, "can
we ch- ch- ch-check your car". it was so cool.

they're looking a little older than when i saw them last. all those upclose
shots! they're as beautiful as ever though. i just couldn't get over amy's
shining, beaming face. they play this song everywhere they go and still
manage to look like they're having the times of their lives!

four days til the sydney show....and counting :-)

helen

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hey folks,

i forgot to say - i haven't had time to read *any* email yet
(been so busy this weekend, what with the concerts and all :),
but we're leaving to go home now.  i should be back in about
12 hours and catching up with everything then...

talk to y'all soon,
sherlyn (that last concert review was mainly penelope, in
case you didn't figure that out :)
=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= a+e=ig
"i'll breathe and grieve and struggle and strive and love and love and
love, and if i'm lucky, once - just once - the dream will drop to the
floor and shatter in shards of silence.  but i will see, i will see,
in the pattern of the pieces i will see... something.  this will,
this will, this will happen..."                - peter mulvey

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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 09:09:19 +1100
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hey everyone,

it's sherlyn, penelope and andrew here again, after an euphoric concert experience last night and a few well-deserved hours of sleep...

[sherlyn wants you to know that any spelling mistakes in this email are those of the zipper goddess.]

set list first (almost completely different from the night before):

the wood song (telepathy _does_ work)
shame on you
it's alright
three hits
ghost
i don't wanna know
get out the map
scooter boys
power of two
<attempt at hey kind friend>
nuevo senorita
least complicated
romeo & juliet
everything in it's time
chickenman
galileo
=======
leeds
tried to be true
closer to fine

well, the heavy duty vibe sending paid off.  they opened with wood song, which we'd been praying for all week.  much joyousness from the second row.  it was a smaller crowd last night, the girls seemed much more relaxed...they had been horse riding all da
y and were very impressed that they were allowed to gallop. (we are yet to pick up on that sue you for falling off a horse concept yet)

there were some hysterical moments during the show. much witty banter.  amy forgot how to play hkf. had a complete mental block.  she tried and tried to remember it - realised she was actually beginning to play a new song she was working on - and just cou
ld not do it.  it was just like the least comp video - she went over to emily and was trying to remember, with emily trying to sing amy's part back to her.  ("that one.")  hilarious, but probably slightly embarrassing for amy.  so we got to hear her semi-
new one about their time in chiapas (nuevo senorita).  so beautiful.

emily muffed soy, came in too early on that road trippin' bit.  amy just looked at her like what the hell are you doing.  it was a moment.  (a good moment, says  sherlyn.)  emily looked a bit stunned, amy was laughing her head off all through the solo.  l
ater emily said, "i was ready to go road block trippin!"

there was a contingent of minnesotans in the crowd, as we found out during ghost.  ("the mississippi's mighty, and it starts in minnesota" *scream*)  afterwards emily asked whether they'd "scared the shit out of everyone around them" when they screamed.
an interesting conversation ensued...

amy: pick the americans in this crowd...
emily: "you americans, you're so tender!"
amy: don't worry, we'll beat up on australians when we go back to the states...

(hm, i get the feeling we left some lines out of that conversation but that's the general gist. :)

there was another conversation along those lines but we can't recall the details right now...

before etiiot emily made a point of expressing her distress at the us involvement in iran.  talking about how the us insists on involving itself in matters that they could just as easily stay out of.  that war is not an option that should be taken up so r
eadily.

ohhh... linda from new zealand got up on stage to sing ctf!  she even managed some private bonding with a&e about what was and wasn't on sale that day at myers (large department store chain here in oz).

let you know how sydney goes!!

ttfn
penelope, and sherlyn (who hopes we don't get lost on the way home), and andrew who's in the shower...

ps - tape.  phenomenal.  don't ask now...
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love, and if i'm lucky, once - just once - the dream will drop to the
floor and shatter in shards of silence.  but i will see, i will see,
in the pattern of the pieces i will see... something.  this will,
this will, this will happen..."                - peter mulvey

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 20:29:30 +0800
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hi all

sorry for the waste of bandwidth but i need some advice from you guys

i'm gonna be furthering my studies in australia this coming july and i
haven't decided where i should go. i've narrowed it down to either qut or
rmit. i hope to be doing a b(a) journalism course. the final decisive
factor would be the environment. here's where i need help. could you guys,
esp. those staying/studying in these places lemme know how it is over
there, esp. if it is les/gay friendly, the night life, interesting
places...you know things like that. i've talked to some friends who have
studied there but i figure it's best to hear from those staying there
themselves. i need to make a final decision by next week so i can actually
go and register. thanks a lot in advance!!!! :-)

siti
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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 13:09:36 pst
reply-to:     yen tang <yen_tang@hotmail.com>
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sorry to post publicly y'all, but it had to be done...

shelley, i've lost you yet again!  this is cylinda, the branch who sends
you your tape tree tapes....i need your address one more time (the last
i swear!)  if you could email it to this account, i'll get your tape
sent off to you....

sorry about losing you again, everything got kinda crazy in the
move.....

peace,
cylinda

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>> *who won't tell her dreams a/b sarah m to the fumbler list cuz they'd
>> all shoot her!*
>
>   that's almost as good as the time i was at a tori concert, and my
>lesbian friend looked over at me, and said, "i'd kill to be that piano
>bench."
>
wouldn't we all kill to be that piano bench? *grin* i don't have that
kind of dream about sarah! nooo....

lamia

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 17:51:38 -0500
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subject:      ig on pbs twice...

pbs will not only show a new austin city limits with ig
this weekend, but they will also rerun the episode of on
tour that features them.  check your local listings for
times in your area.

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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 10:00:28 aes
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great review sherlyn and co. i get more excited by the day. so linda got up
on stage huh? that means they're still letting it happen....watch out for
me and my siblings at the canberra show...we're gonna give it our best
shot.... :-)

helen

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i'm gonna be furthering my studies in australia this coming july and i
haven't decided where i should go. i've narrowed it down to either qut or
rmit. i hope to be doing a b(a) journalism course. the final decisive
factor would be the environment. here's where i need help. could you guys,
esp. those staying/studying in these places lemme know how it is over
there, esp. if it is les/gay friendly, the night life, interesting
places...you know things like that. i've talked to some friends who have
studied there but i figure it's best to hear from those staying there
themselves. i need to make a final decision by next week so i can actually
go and register. thanks a lot in advance!!!! :-) oh yes, 1 more thing,
could you please reply to this address : skunky@post1.com ..... thanks

siti
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hey kind friends,
     amy forgot how to play this song?!? emily jumped the rope-light tripping
cue? it sounds like they're playing all day and having a blast.
let me be the first to thank sherlyn, penelope, andrew, linda, etc., etc., for
being so diligent to post reviews and such to the list about how the girls are
enjoying the land down under. horseback riding, shopping in the mall, spotting
americans, just keep it all coming. and thank you for booting the shows! we
anxiously await boot tree info...

nigc- for fellow listees who are also ani fans.
i am from buffalo- ani's hometown, and i remember when she played small local
clubs and stuff. she's still around a lot, and i drive by her offices all the
time. but i have never gotten into her music. i'm feeling a little guilty. one
of her staff is the partner of a good friend of mine and they are all
encouraging me to give it a careful listen. i know many ig fans love her. so
-without flaming me for not loving her already!- i was wondering if anyone who
really knows a lot about her music (please don't send me emails that say-
'she's awesome!' i'm looking for more tangible stuff) could email me privately
and let me know what specifically it is about her stuff that you connect to
and (nicely?) give me any suggestions you may have about what i should listen
to of hers first. if you gave her a listen and didn't care for her, feel free
to tell me that too. thanks guys!

peace and all things indigo~leah

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 15:35:11 -0800
reply-to:     celeste <us@ecis.com>
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geez, i wish funny things like that happened at the concert i went to! (amy
forgetting how to play hkf...people screaming about minnesota...) they
weren't in a talkative mood, i guess...amyray...

pax, celeste:) (i'm really gonna leave sometime or another:)

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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 11:53:56 aes
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hi

i went looking in the olga archive this morning for the tab for thin line.
i know it was there. i found out that olga is no more for copyright
reasons. damn. i've been checking other sites and can't find any site that
has the music for thin line. does anyone have it? i lost my copy and need
it urgently....

thanks in advance

helen

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what would you say if you meet the indigo girls or just one indigo girl? if
you have met them how was your reaction was it what you thought or did you
freeze? missy

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hey-
   does anyone in the new york area know when the austin city limits or the on
tour with ig are going to be aired?  i looked in the tv listings, but i didn't
see either show listed.  someone help me!!!  i really want to see this.
thanks,
liz

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 17:20:31 -0800
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ok...i really have to leave now...i'm not gonna say much, cuz i'l get all
sentimental and everything, so...bye:( booooohoooooo!

pax, celeste:(

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i would like to go.  if anyone's planning a trip from around
indianapolis i'll be happy to drive/ride/share costs/camp out
or whatever.  i have a honda civic and could take two or three
people.  ;)

are tickets available in advance?  do you get them at the door?

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my thoughts,

i thought daryl was really rude in his intro to the girls. he started to
introduce them, then started talking to wilbur and red, then continued with
the ig intro and then started talking to the blond bombshell, all the while
holding shaming of the sun in the air....while the girls were just standing
there waiting to start playing..how rude!! daryl you're a fuckwit.

as for them singing....it was so exciting to see them on telly, i thought
amy looked very nervous, but emily came across really confident and full of
smiles and she was dancing around etc.

they also look as though they have lost some weight.

helen mentioned the line "ch ch check out your car" (which was good) - the
line before this -looking for illegal immigrants - came across really clear
and kinda slowed down, i noticed this also when they sang on triple j -
made it sound as if they were the illegal immigrants!!

also nobody has mentioned it yet, but when they were on triple j, emily
mentioned that she had started writing a story about desert storm, she says
she's gonna ressurect it...

joad

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howdy,

could some kind person who still has the ig aussie interview post
(the one where amy says she wants to go into forestry someday)
please forward me a copy?  i was a little happy with the delete button
the other day and deleted that digest edition.  i would be most grateful
if someone could forward that post to me.

peace and thanks,

joan :-d

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 21:52:54 -0700
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well, it was much easier than i thought it would be...  i talked my
boyfriend into taking me to see the ben & jerry's folk festival this
summer!  i'm making him get on the ball about hotel plans and i'm going
to order the tickets.  it's still six months away, but i am so psyched!
it's a little early now, but i'll be needing lots of advice, etc. on
what to wear, what to bring, how early to be there in the morning...
yippee! :o)

melissa.

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 23:55:37 -0500
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if i ever met amy, i would ask her if i could teach her how to surf. also,
i would ask her what she thougth of the spice girls. i've been thinking
lately, what the hell do tight clothes, platform shoes, and push-up bras
have to do with girl power. amy has real girl power, i've got girl power,
the spice girls do not have girl power.

rb

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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 00:04:31 est
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hey y'all!

i made my motel reservations for newport today.  i thought i was really on the
ball, but the reservations guy said that they were almost completely booked
for that weekend already!  (and this was a motel 6!)  just thought i would let
everyone know so y'all don't have problems finding a place to stay.  well,
hope to see y'all there!  take it easy!

dena

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date:         sun, 22 feb 1998 20:56:55 -0800
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>
> well there may be some truth in that but i read a lovely little article in
> the guardian (a faintly left-wing british national newspaper) about women
> in journalism, which suggested that women (or at least some of them)
> aren't all that supportive of each other at all.   this woman,

actually, let's be careful not confuse characteristics of men and
women vs characteristics of people in certain professions.  journalism
is a great example of a profession that is still heavily male
dominated, and historically, women have found in such venues that
competitveness is paramount to succeeding... i dont think it ios
appropriate to compare a work/trade behaviouir to what i
think was the general question..gender characteristics.  the
article which was included (snipped for space) talks about one
woman's experience.  as with everything, that isnt ever the whole
story and a half dozen otehrs would give different accounts.
cant dismiss things quite so quickly based only on one article.

as for me, i think our world pushes us to be either man or
woman and there are certain characterisitcs which are expected/accepted
as being representative of either (men= tough, women=dainty
as one example). as a female bodied individual, i have found
that i dont fit many of the things that are expected or projected
upon us as being "womanly"...i dont wear make up, i hate dresses.
i dont feel"feminine", though language to define exactly
what feminine means is tough to find...everyone will perceive
it differently.  same goes for masculine...we would all
have different ways to describe what that word means to us.

to my great relief, there is ian increasing body of thought which
asserts that gender is more than male/female or man/woman.
that we are all composed of various combinations of characteristics
of each , and foir some of us, female/male or man/woman are
not the *best* words to describe ourselves.  not the whole
story.  it's an incredibly complex topic, and i'm sure most
people on the list dont want to be bored with it, so i will
make a reading recommendation for those who want to know more:
the books is calledc "gender outlaw: on men, women, and
the rest of us" and it is by kate bornstein.  it's easy
to read and it is mind bending stuff.  go for it...


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hello everyone!  i'm new to this list and love it. actually i've been
lurking for a couple of weeks just to get the gist of things!  i've been
absorbing everything y'all have to say, as i'm also fairly new to the ig
scene.  i've been listening for 5 years, but didn't realize how much
i've been missing out on until i joined this list!  i've got some
stories to share, but for now, a simple question.  please tell me more
about this b&j folk festival!!!  my friends & i made a pact 4 years ago
that we would meet up for at least one ig show a year, no matter where
the winds scatter us to, and this folk festival sounds like an
incredible road trip in the making for us!  anyone have ticket price
info?  where do i call to get tix?  where is it held (newport, ri?)
who's scheduled to appear?  any good camping sites nearby, within 30
miles or so?  thanks for any info & help you can send my way!

keep up the beautiful communication, "girl"-friends  :)

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>i thought daryl was really rude in his intro to the girls. he started to
>introduce them, then started talking to wilbur and red, then continued with
>the ig intro and then started talking to the blond bombshell, all the while
>holding shaming of the sun in the air....while the girls were just standing
>there waiting to start playing..how rude!! daryl you're a fuckwit.

joadster,  couldn't agree with you more, but regardless of that their
performance was great.

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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 22:58:09 +1100
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hey everyone,

i'm exhausted, but home.  what a weekend!  so many memorable
moments... if i had to pick one word to describe the weekend
it would be this:
                yay

*grin*

the concerts were, of course, both amazing.  saturday was a
"quintessential" ig concert - lots of old staples on the
setlist.  sunday was without a doubt the best ig concert i've
ever seen.  depending on how energetic i feel, i will probably
attempt another (hopefully more concise than the previous
group efforts) review of the two shows in the next few days...

i forgot to mention the merchandise before - they're selling:
- blue "shed your skin" shirt, $35
- natural sots shirt, $35
- green "get out the map" shirt, $35
- blue cap, $25

horribly expensive, but of course i bought all of them.

yes, i did boot both shows.  saturday turned out fairly well
but i think will need to be re-mastered.  i'll have to fiddle
and see if my stereo will do it, or if i'll have to ask
someone to do it for me.  sunday turned out - well.  the word
"phenomenal" comes to mind... thank you so much to john miller
for all the advice!

i will be offering both these tapes in a couple of weeks, i
promise.  i want to see what comes of the two ig shows later
this week in sydney first, maybe offer all the tapes up
together, depending.  don't mail me yet, but i'll keep you all
posted...

i think that's all for now - i really should go and get some
sleep (didn't have much time this past weekend!).

talk to you all soon i'm sure.  happy happy - but none so
happy as me! :)
sherlyn

ps - hi to everyone i met.  sorry if we were too preoccupied
to talk much... :)
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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sorry, just testing to make sure we are no longer shown as
"owner indigo-girls" - cuz, we are definitely not!

thanks for the bandwidth!
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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 12:29:26 +0000
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on mon, 23 feb 1998, sherlyn koo wrote:

> before etiiot emily made a point of expressing her distress at the us
> involvement in iran.  talking about how the us insists on involving
> itself in matters that they could just as easily stay out of.  that war is not
> an option that should be taken up so readily.

that's true, but unfortunately this was a situation the us got itself into
in the late 70's/early 80's when they started propping up saddam hussein
after the iranians kicked out their puppet.   they made this mess, they
should have cleared it up in 1991, and if they don't clear it up this time
it'll be back to haunt them in a few years time more.   except i don't
think they are actually planning to clear it up, they just want to carry
out a couple of 'punitive air strikes' which will do no more than kill a
few innocent arabs.   or whoever they happen to drop them on, knowing the
past record of american 'smart bombs' ...

mat

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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 14:12:40 +0500
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>well...i recorded vh-1 on both nights, but neither of the programs on lilith
>fair was aired - they were both replaced by different programs about carole
>king.  on the second night, just before the carole king program there was an
>announcement apologizing for the change in schedule, but no explanation, and
>no indication of when the lilith fair programs would be shown.
>since there was advance publicity about these programs in the press (i saw
>previews in satellite times, time out and the evening standard), it seems odd
>that vh-1 should cancel them with no explanation.
>if anyone knows when they will be shown in the uk, please post to the list !

it was cancelled because there had been a legal mix up over the licence.
they are having to start all the legal work from the beginning and the show
should be aired around june time.

take care
sharon....... who saw ani in london at the weekend....... she rocked!!!!!

sharon a. jennings
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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 21:24:29 -0800
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first post ever:  i'm so jealous over everyone getting to see indigo girls
live.  i've loved them since 1993, first year of college - but what are the
chances of the girls doing a tour in asia, much less the philippines?
thanks for the first hand accounts of the concerts though - i'm glad i got
wired.

maileen

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> from: sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
> to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject: ig in melbourne, february 22 1998
> date: sunday, february 22, 1998 2:09 pm
>
> hey everyone,
>
> it's sherlyn, penelope and andrew here again, after an euphoric concert
experience last night and a few well-deserved hours of sleep...
>
> [sherlyn wants you to know that any spelling mistakes in this email are
those of the zipper goddess.]
>
> set list first (almost completely different from the night before):
>
> the wood song (telepathy _does_ work)
> shame on you
> it's alright
> three hits
> ghost
> i don't wanna know
> get out the map
> scooter boys
> power of two
> <attempt at hey kind friend>
> nuevo senorita
> least complicated
> romeo & juliet
> everything in it's time
> chickenman
> galileo
> =======
> leeds
> tried to be true
> closer to fine
>
> well, the heavy duty vibe sending paid off.  they opened with wood song,
which we'd been praying for all week.  much joyousness from the second row.
it was a smaller crowd last night, the girls seemed much more
relaxed...they had been horse riding all da
> y and were very impressed that they were allowed to gallop. (we are yet
to pick up on that sue you for falling off a horse concept yet)
>
> there were some hysterical moments during the show. much witty banter.
amy forgot how to play hkf. had a complete mental block.  she tried and
tried to remember it - realised she was actually beginning to play a new
song she was working on - and just cou
> ld not do it.  it was just like the least comp video - she went over to
emily and was trying to remember, with emily trying to sing amy's part back
to her.  ("that one.")  hilarious, but probably slightly embarrassing for
amy.  so we got to hear her semi-
> new one about their time in chiapas (nuevo senorita).  so beautiful.
>
> emily muffed soy, came in too early on that road trippin' bit.  amy just
looked at her like what the hell are you doing.  it was a moment.  (a good
moment, says  sherlyn.)  emily looked a bit stunned, amy was laughing her
head off all through the solo.  l
> ater emily said, "i was ready to go road block trippin!"
>
> there was a contingent of minnesotans in the crowd, as we found out
during ghost.  ("the mississippi's mighty, and it starts in minnesota"
*scream*)  afterwards emily asked whether they'd "scared the shit out of
everyone around them" when they screamed.
> an interesting conversation ensued...
>
> amy: pick the americans in this crowd...
> emily: "you americans, you're so tender!"
> amy: don't worry, we'll beat up on australians when we go back to the
states...
>
> (hm, i get the feeling we left some lines out of that conversation but
that's the general gist. :)
>
> there was another conversation along those lines but we can't recall the
details right now...
>
> before etiiot emily made a point of expressing her distress at the us
involvement in iran.  talking about how the us insists on involving itself
in matters that they could just as easily stay out of.  that war is not an
option that should be taken up so r
> eadily.
>
> ohhh... linda from new zealand got up on stage to sing ctf!  she even
managed some private bonding with a&e about what was and wasn't on sale
that day at myers (large department store chain here in oz).
>
> let you know how sydney goes!!
>
> ttfn
> penelope, and sherlyn (who hopes we don't get lost on the way home), and
andrew who's in the shower...
>
> ps - tape.  phenomenal.  don't ask now...
> =-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= a+e=ig
> "i'll breathe and grieve and struggle and strive and love and love and
>  love, and if i'm lucky, once - just once - the dream will drop to the
>  floor and shatter in shards of silence.  but i will see, i will see,
>  in the pattern of the pieces i will see... something.  this will,
>  this will, this will happen..."                - peter mulvey
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in the dream i was having right before i woke up this morning, somewhere in the
distance, someone was playing a version of "that ain't no way to treat a friend"
sung by travis tritt. good lord! where does my subconscious come up with this
stuff??

tracy
th3307@wcu.edu

...watching cars drive away in your mind...

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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 08:13:41 -0700
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good morning,

yesterday (sunday) i was channel surfing and i watched a snippet of this
local issues news show.  it had a woman from a gay rights group and a
woman from a human rights group, i only watched for like ten minutes but i
assume they were talking about gay issues in utah (if y'all had any idea
of how hilarious that notion is) :) anyway, when they went to commercial
break they played it's allright during the fade out.  i was changing the
channel because no self respecting channel surfer ever watches
commercials, when i was like what? then i hurried and flipped back.

making progress,
diana

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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 08:41:23 -0600
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sorry, but i got happy with the delete key and lost your message about
road tripping across the u.s. - i might be able to help you out.  can you
send my your addy again?

thanks (sorry folks)

sarah

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hi,
i'm in grad school and presently in a course called educational
psychology... we have been studying sex differences, and there are soo
many theories claiming that men and women are indeed different in all of
those nurturing, intimate etc. ways that you discussed... and they claim
that this is as a result of actual differences in the minds and stuff,
blaming it all on that y-chromosome... i am not totally sure yet of the
specifics (because i didn't do my homework yet oops) but we saw movies
that "proved" that from birth girls and boys are different... at least,
most boys and girls. obviously there are many who are different... who
have far more qualities of the other sex... which is why many people don't
believe these theories.. but i kind of think i do... like, they showed
newborn babies... the girls focus on faces, stare, cry when they see
something that moves them... while the boys are sort of just staring into
space, looking around aimlessly, not focusing on anything in particular.
there are so many other things too... i'll know more when i actually do my
reading...  but yeah! there are definitely some fundamental differences
between men and women, which is why it is sooo difficult to have a
successful relationship!!!! (or maybe that's just my bad luck?)


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hi folks!

bon & i just saw sonia, or as her flyer spells it, sonia, from disappear fear
this weekend.  it was great.  bon heard about it at the last minute, so we
drove over to the bakery where the concert was, there was a parking spot
waiting for us by the front door and we were a little late (she'd already sung
four songs) but there were two seats in the front row for us!  she was great.
for some igc, she mentioned that a woman she was talking to at a concert had
once mistaken the last song of her encore, deep soul diver, for an ig song.
("hurrah!!!" from the people in the second row at the mention of ig).  she's
on tour now, and if she's playing near you i'd recommend that you see her.
here's the remaining dates from her tour flyer:

2-25  tin angle, phil. pa
2-26  caffe lena, saratoga springs, ny
2-28  night eagle, oxford, ny
3-4    12th & porter, nashville, tn
3-5    be here now, asheville, nc
3-6    down home, johnson city, tn
3-20   eddies attic, decatur ga
3-25  turning point, piermont ny
3-27  club passim, cambridge, ma
3-28  first encounter, eastham, ma
3-29  the left bank cafe, blue hill me
3-30  slates, hallowell, me
4-3  rosebud, pittsburgh, pa

anne

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drum roll, please.

brrrrrrrrrrrrr!

okay, folks, the seattle tapes have all been mailed out to the
branches, so if you'd like a copy of the 1-23-98 concert in seattle, wa (see
the
setlist at the end of this post - everyone who's heard it has said that the
quality is very good), please make arrangements with
the person associated with your birthday month.  jodi is going to be the
australian branch and sandy the canadian branch, but if there are others
outside the us who want the tape, i'm hopeful that you'll be able to come to a
satisfactory arrangement with the person associated with your birthday month.
the only stipulation i have is that *no one* can make a profit or *require* a
trade for these tapes -- anyone should be able to get them by sending blanks
and an sase, though it would be nice to arrange a trade if you can.

here are the seattle boot branches:

jan    kristina <andrade@az.com>
feb    sasha <indigofrk@aol.com>
mar    lori <lhannan31@aol.com>
apr    bonnie <bonster@u.washington.edu>
may    deb <debigogrl@aol.com>
jun    jenny <chxnman@aol.com>
jul    lisa <nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu>
aug    jeanette <reposa@scf-fs.usc.edu>
sep    ron <ronjohns@microsoft.com>
oct   ilana <wind80@aol.com>
nov   cathy <delastraw@aol.com>
dec    pam <mnoelm@aol.com>
au    jodi <joadster@space.net.au >
canada   sandy <dp823@freenet.carleton.ca>


branches should use the following addresses for overflow; if you receive more
requests than you can handle (and please take care of at least 10), please
refer those folks to overflow branches as follows:
    jan-mar    heather <heather@coaps.fsu.edu>
    apr-jun    keri <kpink@unm.edu>
    jul-sep    robin <robsweeney@aol.com>
    oct-dec   jude <hunterj1@aol.com>

**********setlist************
*danielle howle & the tantrums*
i held the satchel
trust in love
big puffy girl handwriting
if you wanna leave
hey you
host for the notes
parakeet protest song
feel so bad
big front porch
*indigo girls*
welcome me
least complicated
shame on you
virginia woolf
dead man's hill
hammer and a nail
chickenman
get out the map
don't give that girl a gun
crazy game with billy tipton
hey kind friend
it's alright
romeo & juliet
shed your skin with billy tipton
galileo
winthrop
cut it out / wish you were here
closer to fine

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hi everyone...
i know it's sort of far in advance but since everyone is getting
excited i just want to offer my services... i live in boston and
my parents live in rhode island so if i can help out anyone
from far away with finding places to stay or finding out about
hotels or camping or anything, let me know. i'm local!
:)
shayna


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subject:      better late than never!

hee hee, i haven't read my mail for several days but i wanted to
participate anyway...
okay, last five concerts:

1) indigo girls/danielle howle
2) indigo girls/sonia rutstein
3) ani difranco/coco love alcorn
4) ani difranco/bob dylan (actually, that would be bob dylan/ani
    difranco...)
5) counting crows/wallflowers
(the 4 before that were indigo girls, btw!!)

and "3 or more" cds:
indigo girls, ani difranco, michelle malone (with various bands),
sarah mclachlan, the sundays, rem, depeche mode, duran duran, the
cure, tori amos, the smithereens... hmm, i think that's it.  i
counted tapes, too, because i was pretty late getting a cd player!

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well, i tried to stay out of this conversation, but i guess i am going
to through my hat into the ring.

this is kind of long, so feel free to delete it now.

recently there was a really great article in rolling stone about a study
done on twin boys. as an infant, one of the boys had severe damage done
to his penis during a medical procedure. a doctor who wanted to prove
that sexual identity was largely learned convinced the boys parents to
have the child undergo a sex change operation and raise him as a girl.
this was a really fascinating article and seemed to me to indicate that
our gender traits may be, at least to some degree, genetic. despite
being raised a girl this person continued to display many traits that
are generally thought of as male, i.e liking sports and cars, stuff like
that.

but, i think there are always differences and the society and family in
which one is raised has a lot to do with who we become. although i am a
straight, well, mostly ;-) , male raised in the southern united states,
i care very little for sports, fast cars, being macho or other typically
male characteristics. i remember back in 7th grade (a long, long time
ago in a galaxy far far away) during lunches at school i much preferred
sitting with the girls and talking about stuff rather than throwing
around the football with the boys. my sensitive side got me beat up a
lot in school. so, i think there are definitely strong societal
pressures for us to confirm to the typical gender characteristics.

it's too bad that society feels the need to pigeon hole us into specific
patterns of behavior based upon our genders. i think we are all much
more than male or female. i think that's what makes people so
interesting. just because "becky" is a girl and likes to bake cookies,
that shouldn't mean that it is unacceptable for her to also want to be a
goalie for the local hockey team or want to take apart the engine in her
1972 camaro on the weekends. likewise, just because "bob" is a boy and
likes to play softball after school doesn't mean he should get beat up
because he is interested in fashion.

so often though we make assumptions about one another based upon
something we were taught along the way. for example: last year i bought
a new (well to me) pick up truck. the truck has chrome wheels and chrome
handles on the walls of the bed. i visited a friend of mine (she happens
to be a woman and is lesbian) and showed her the truck. she saw the
chrome stuff and said "oh, you boys and your toys". now, i didn't pick
the truck because of the chrome and quite frankly don't like it much. i
picked the truck because it was a truck (i'm too big for cars) and i
could afford it. but my friend didn't consider that. she just saw
something she didn't identify with and assigned it to my gender. she
meant no harm by it. i believe its just something she learned along the
way... that boys like shiny toys (okay, that's probably largely true)
and she assumed that's why i liked the truck.

but, i think we do ourselves harm if we totally reject the typical
gender identities that society assigns to our gender, if we isolate
ourselves from others of our gender. i know for a long time i saw men as
evil (even though i be one). i saw men as violent, insensitive brutes.
and i didn't identify with that. it confused me greatly. but lately i
have started seeing my gender in a different light.

i think individuals, rather male or female, can display different
"gender" characteristics depending upon the situation and where they are
in their lives. watch a man with his newborn or young child. you will
likely see a very nurturing, caring, gentle person. watch the women who
play college basketball (yea jodi coradt!) and you will see fiercely
competitive individuals.

so, i think gender differences probably are a combination of genetic and
learned behaviors. i think the trouble we run into is a mind set that
says "you are male, you must be like this" or "you are a woman, you must
be like that". personally, i would like it better if we could just say
"oh, george likes to sew period customes for fun, very cool", or "sally
likes to box at the ymca, way to go sally!".

well, i guess i have babbled on enough for one day. interesting topic.

peace,

dan perkins
austin, texas

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                -dar williams

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could someone please tell me where the ben and jerry's folk festival is being
held??????

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i'll be home this weekend visiting the folks...anything going on that would be
fun this weekend?

michelle

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rodney wrote:

>deb, with all due respect, i think you are being a little unfair
>to either angela or the woman she mentions; when i first saw the
>picture, i couldn't quite tell who is was and i am still not certain.
>
>it honestly looks like emily or the the very least, amy bleached
>her hair, making her look like emily.

i agree!

>you also said you had trouble figuring out why a photo of
>someone else is in a interview with amy?  if you forget again,
>look up the word "duo."

it's an interview with *amy*, i wouldn't expect a random picture of someone
else without any indication of who it is.

>deb, i am not trying to be sarcastic or mean to you
>in any way,

perhaps you should re-read the previous quote.  or did you really think i
need to look up the word "duo"?


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does anyone have the boot from the ig show @ the orpheum in december?
it's really important to me that i find it. it has much sentimental
meaning. though, doesn't every ig show? but this one for a specific
reason...anyone wanna help me out?
*grovel*plead*cry*beg*!!!!
thanks for reading...
*cate

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the book. and then maybe steer us clear from some of the pain it took to
get us where we are this far..." *emily saliers


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does anyone know where and how i can get the sheet music to leeds?

st-st-st-st-st-steph

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hello all,

hate to waste bandwidth (and wondering why i bother with typing that), but
does anyone have any catie curtis tabs from her newest self-titled album?
would ya want to share 'em with me? that'd be cool. :0) e-mail privately,
of course.

much appreciation,
amy m.

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ahhh ani is so cool!

this album is soooo much better than dilate!  it's
way more funky folky cool with not nearly as much
screaming as dilate (tho i do wish she'd keep a
couple songs with just her and her accoustic....but
since we haven't seen that since self titled, i think
i'm outta luck)!

all in all, it sorta seems <i emphasize seems> to
lose some steam at the end.... and deep dish is
definately the best.  "don't even bother/trying to
say something clever/clever is as clever does/no
matter what it says"

amanda who just finished her weight training session
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i don't know how many of you have ever heard viva la diva's song "when
you're ready", but i was just wondering if any of you made the connection
between it and "touch me fall". (hmmm, like the orgasm theme?) there are
other connections though. let me know which ones you catch.
                                        christy :)

thought i'd bring this up since we're not currently discussing any songs

"laughter's for healing, not tearing apart."

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did anyone get a copy of circles?  i'm not exactly sure how i
got one but i received on in the mail today.


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i would have to disagree with deb's assessment of garrison starr, although
everyone is obviously entitled to their own opinion.  i just bought her
"eighteen over me" this weekend, and i thought it was awesome, especially
"superhero" (which has been stuck in my head all day!!).  while her voice
does sound alanis, i don't find it as annoying or whiny--again, just my
opinion--and i found her music, lyrics and style to be extremely rockin'!!


i have no idea if you (deb) have her cd or if you just listened to the
soundbytes from her website, but in  my opinion, those don't do her
justice!  i found her by chance this weekend at best buy--on sale for
$9.99--and i think it's one of my best purchases in a long time.  i am
definitely a fan now!!  i'd encourage you all to check her out, especially
if you like michelle malone's style of music.

my barrel's worth,

shannon

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as someone (probably mel) noted, the festival has a web site with all of
the info many people have been asking; it is at
<http://www.newportfolk.com/>.  if you have web capability, *please* look
there before you ask for info on the list, it'll tell you where it is, when
it is, who will be there, how to get tickets, how to find lodging,
transportation, etc.

i'm not by any means trying to discourage the sharing of info on the
subject (i'm excited about it!), but i hope we can minimize the number of
messages requesting the same info over and over.  every year, these details
are rehashed over and over again on the list for months... sherlyn and
jude, would you consider adding the nff url to the list sig temporarily?

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hi!  i'm new to this list, but i figured this was a safe topic to start
with.  ok, i don't go to many concerts (i'm only 15), but the last one
was jingle ball at madison square garden.  fiona apple and lisa loeb
were there, along with some other really greats singers and bands.  "3
or more cd's"  hmm...does that mean bought, or listened to?  well, the
last 2 cd's i bought were ig- sf, ig- rop, and fleetwood mac the dance.
those are also the last 3 i listened too.  bye for now!...flann

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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 16:51:43 est
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i heard rumour that the girls were going to be on georgia public tv sometime
this week?  does anyone know anything about this?! thanks! :)

smiles,
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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 16:00:53 -0500
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february 24
h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk (helene burningham)
happy birthday, helene!

february 25
mmedido@aol.com (claire/binky)
happy 41st, claire!

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thin line

g      320033
d/f#   200233
c9     x32033
d      xx0232
c      x32010

g               d/f#     c9      c9
  i thought the time had passed when i could
g      d/f#          c9       c9
  find beauty in the birds
g           d/f#          c9       c9
  i set the stage and the scenery
g   d/f#           c9     c9
  rehearsing every word   yeah

d
when i tried to make it more, it was
c        g
  always less
           d
and it's a thin line between pleasing yourself
            c              c
and pleasing, somebody else
g   d/f#    c9    c9
         oh yeah,
   g    d/f#   c9      c9
oh yeah        alright


with my confidence on fire
i set to fixing up my role
separation of desire
just left me deeper in the hole yeah

when i tired to make it more
it was, always less
and it's a thin line between pleasing yourself
and pleasing, somebody else
yeah, when i tried to make it more
it was always less
and it's a thin line between pleasing yourself
and pleasing somebody else

solo

now i'm trying to get back
to what i know that i should be
hoping to god that i was just
i temporary absentee  yeah

chorus

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i have *finally* been able to update my ig picture pages with some new
pictures =)   there are plenty from the recent ca shows, as well as some other
new ones.   i do have lots more to add, so keep checking back, if you like
what you see =)

the beginning address is:  http://members.aol.com/memememi/indigogirls.html
and you can go to the individual pages from there!

lisa

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hi!
  i was just wondering if there are any boston ig fans on the list?  also, how
does everyone find out about when the girls are coming to certain cities?  i
am always behind the ball on the concerts i guess =)
   about the dreams topic, it seems that every night i have a dream about the
girls.  last night i had a dream that amy took me for a ride in her 4-runner
to show me around atlanta and we had such a great conversation about
spirituality and everything... then my lamer alarm clock woke me up for
school.  damn!
    oh... one more thing!  i was wondering if anyone knows how i could get a
tape of the pay-per-view ig show from last spring (the great woods concert in
boston)... i was there live and that concert rocked!!  so, i would love a tape
of it!!!!

thanks y'all!
jess

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what the hell do tight clothes, platform shoes, and push-up bras
>have to do with girl power.

absolutely nothing!!!!!!!

amy has real girl power, i've got girl power,
>the spice girls do not have girl power.
>
yes i second that! we have girl power and we don't need push up bras..
it has nothing to do w/that!

lamia

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thanks to everyone who encouraged me to get this cd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i don't know how i went w/out this long!!!!!!!!!!
it is so great listening to it all the way through for the 3rd time!!
ooh romeo & juliet! love will come to you!! chickenman sounds so
different than it does on curfews..but i've found that no 1 version of
it sounds like it..it's always different...

oh i love this cd though! i always wondered what the song that rosie
sang when they were on there (just b/c i spoke these words they are
true..) :)

lamia

"one day we're gonna realize it was just because the time was wrong.."
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hey y'all!! :)

here i am, stepping out of lurkdom...but i don't have anything extremely
exciting to say, just a couple questions and something that gave me a
laugh...

1- does anyone have the words to amy's soc during scooter boys @umbc on
10/25?? i just got around to listening to that tape... incredible. amy's
screaming an awful lot during that show...it's so excellent!

2- speaking of umbc, hey marviel -- you know how you had that photo
offer way back? well... is it still open?? :)  i got busy for once, and
never took you up on it... but i'm still really interested...so...

3- were the two pbs shows on this past weekend? did i miss them? or are
they on this coming weekend???  i'm way out of it these days, if you
didn't figure that out already!

ok... now... don't laugh at me.. but...
have any of you heard that (imho) song on your local crap radio station
(no offense, remember i-m-h-o!)  "are you jimmy ray?"  well, whenever i
hear it i think i'd be a riot to hear amy do it "are you amy ray? who
wants to know?"  and there's that other part "i'm leaner, i'm meaner, i
ain't no in-betweener, are you feeling dangerous?"  i just laugh
whenever i think of amy covering it.... ha ha... ok.. anyway...

if you have answers to my questions ("stacked like wood"..) that'd be
good (i'm tired, sorry about my poor verbal skills).

thanks, if you read this far :)

becks!


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there's a pbs appearance this coming weekend (austin city limits), and
lol at the jimmy ray question! ...flann

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date:         mon, 23 feb 1998 20:15:36 -0800
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since someone recently asked about fans in boston, i thought it
timely to make this post.  baigls, for the uninitiated, is
boston area indigo girls listees.  we have an e-mail
list all our own where we talk about ig events in boston/new england,
and other music/gathering occurences that may be of similar
interest.  it's a great group of folks.

recently, ownership of teh list changed.  it used to be manually
run on a list exploder by chris becker, and his dedication
to the list is greatly appreciated.  chris found himself
stretched and had to find the list a new home.  i have taken it over.

if you are interested in joining, send a message to
majordomo@world.std.com and in the body, put subscribe
baigls.  that's all tehre is to it.  if you have any questions,drop me a
note.  there are people on the list who arent in the new england
area...we welcome all.  and we have great, unmatched parties :)

now back to our regular programming...

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monk@world.std.com          \   /
the original photo monk      \ /                --patty larkin
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at 11:49 am 2/23/98 -0600, dan perkins wrote:
a very sensitive ( lol + male... see... the two can go together... bravo,
dan! ) :-) post...
in the post he said:
>recently there was a really great article in rolling stone about a study
>done on twin boys. as an infant, one of the boys had severe damage done
>to his penis during a medical procedure. a doctor who wanted to prove
>that sexual identity was largely learned convinced the boys parents to
>have the child undergo a sex change operation and raise him as a girl.

i saw a tv programme abt the very same man... the "doctor" who performed
this experimental surgery messed terribly with that poor guy's mind... the
things he put the boy + his twin brother through during their regular
"examinations" make me shudder. well... if y'all get a chance to read the
article dan mentioned in his post, you'll understand.
despite suicide attempts + an attempt on the actual doctor's life by the
adult twin, the doctor proclaimed his "gender reassignment" to be succesful
+ was continuing to perform these same sorts of operations on other
children. he still is to this day, so far as i can remember.... it was quite
a while back that i watched the show...
anyhoo, the adult twin and a young boy of about 14 who had been assigned the
female gender + had been raised as a girl as well, got together during the
course of the tv programme i watched. this was so that the older man could
share with this boy his own experiences + the wisdom he had gained through
years of deep emotional + psychological pain and therapy. the young boy was
*very* confused by his own feelings of "maleness"... he just knew inside
himself that he was not a girl. the sense that he was *not* a girl was a
basic instinct... most of us "know" that we are female, or that we are male,
from infancy on... it's not about genetalia... it is about soul. it was an
incredibly thought provoking study... and says bucket fulls about the dif
between male + female... there is a basic dif... not in nurture, but rather
in nature. cliche as *that* may sound.
so then... the next logical step in this observation, to my mind is; what
about those born *knowing* they are lesbian/gay... or those born *knowing*
they are female though they have all the male physicality... or visa
versa... not to mention those born with ambiguous genetalia + who are ( as
the two above-mentioned males ) assigned a gender by well meaning doctors +
parents...
i firmly believe that what/who you are, is what your heart tells you when
you listen very very closely. i loved greg flamer's quote... can't quite
remember where it was from... about if there is such a thing as sin, it
would be this: that you become who you are based on other people's
experiences... or something to that effect... sorta lends itself to the
whole "doctors + adults playing god" thing, huh?
bet this post was as clear as mud:-) well... just me, rattling off a few of
my own thoughts... anyone care to comment on my confusedness?
peace all... kim
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hey all....

  this festival is going on at my schol, and i thought maybe some of you
who are near by would like to particiapte...we also need donations from
groups to help out, so if you know of any, please let me know...also, if
youre interested in any of this, let me know..im on the planning commitee
and it should be a lot of fun!! thanks


subject: women's festival of the arts

hello everyone,

for those of you who are list owners, please distribute this to all of
your lists.

the 5th annual women's festival of the arts is quickly approaching.  it is
planned to be held at the end of march to end women's history month.

the women's festival of the arts was started by a group of women within
the glba so that we could have more women's programming within the group
and at the same time highlight the individual talents of women on campus
in the area of poetry and music.

over the next few years, this event has expanded to include all women on
campus as well as many more art forms.  last year this event was held over
a 3 day period highlighting women's film, women's art, music, poetry,
prose, dance, and performance.  this year we hope to have equally as
diverse and successful event.

but, i need your help to make it happen.

second, i need participants.  if you are interested in showing your films,
displaying your art, reading your poetry, singing, dancing, performing,
reading prose, whatever you do that is an expression of your creativity,
we want you.

again, i encourage you to get involved in this event--it is a wonderful
experience and one that i hope will go on.  also, you do not have to be a
usc student to participate in or plan this event, so if you have friends
that you think would like to be involved who are not from usc--please
encourage them to join us.

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>>deb, with all due respect, i think you are being a little unfair
>>to either angela or the woman she mentions; when i first saw the
>>picture, i couldn't quite tell who is was and i am still not
certain.
>>
>>it honestly looks like emily or the the very least, amy bleached
>>her hair, making her look like emily.
>
>i agree!

you agree the photo is either amy or emily or that
you were unfair to angela and "the other woman?"
(whose name i now know is stacey.)

>>you also said you had trouble figuring out why a photo of
>>someone else is in a interview with amy?  if you forget again,
>>look up the word "duo."
>
>it's an interview with *amy*, i wouldn't expect a random picture
>of someone else without any indication of who it is.

i wouldn't expect that either, but that may have been
what happened.

>>deb, i am not trying to be sarcastic or mean to you
>>in any way,
>
>perhaps you should re-read the previous quote.
>or did you really think i
>need to look up the word "duo"?

you missed the point of my post, which is not a shock
considering you missed the point of angela's post.
i was trying to point out that you were being
condescending in the most polite way i knew how.
now you are trying to condescend to me.  before this
goes any further, we should write to curve and ask
who is in that bloody photo because as they say
in the military, it's causing dissension
(and condescension) in the ranks!!!!!

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hi,
i noticed in my tv guide that the austin city limits show is not listed
this saturday in the ny metro area (long island).  are there any fellow
listees that know when it will be aired in this area?
please email me privately.
thanks,
donna

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hi everyone,

the "1200 curfews" songbook was released a few weeks ago (at last).
i got my copy in the mail yesterday...

isbn: 0-7935-6638-x
publisher: hal leonard corporation
no. pages: 126
contents:
        1. closer to fine
        2. galileo
        3. ghost
        4. i don't wanna know
        5. joking
        6. jonas and ezekial
        7. least complicated
        8. mystery
        9. power of two
        10. pushing the needle too far
        11. strange fire
        12. this train revised
        13. virginia woolf
        14. world falls

this book actually seems to be geared towards guitar players, not
keyboard players like the earlier books.  i'm no guitar player and
i can't read tablature (just regular musical notation), but when
compared to the other books the transcriptions seem much more
complete to me.  they've also written in the vocal harmony parts,
which i think wasn't done in any of the other books except for
"swamp ophelia".  they also seemed to have transcribed the 1200c
versions of the songs, rather than just sprucing up the
transcriptions from the old books.  there are a couple of very
short notes from amy before some of her songs as well, and some
notes from the editors that may or may not be useful for guitar
players, i'm not sure.

just fyi -
sherlyn
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speaking of the new songbook,

i think it is the best one yet.  except for the fact that they left out
all the covers and some other ones i would have liked to see tabbed out.
still, there are some things that i think are mistakes.  but all the
songbooks have some suspiciously wrong tabs.  i'm really fond of the
pushing the needle too far tab.  finally, it is on paper.

it hink the best part about the new book , like sherlyn said, was that it
includes a much more complete notation for the songs.  all the little
things emily does are in there.   anyway, get it.

wendell

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who is the male voice in this song talking about possibilities and such.  i
don't understand the significance there.  all i have to say is fuel rocks my
world.  also, did anyone notice that indigo girls' drummer jerry marotta is on
this album?  so this post actually does relate to indigo girls!  hey, does
anybody know any info on an ani mailing list?  this would almost complete my
very wholistic list of lists.  right now, i get mail from this list, the
innocence mission list, the david lynch list, and the joni mitchell list.  now
if i can just get hooked up with an ani list.......
love, andy

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hey everyone,

i found this in last sunday's the sunday telegraph (sydney
sunday paper).  they must have a time machine because the
date on sunday was only the 22nd and apparently a&e sent in
their answers to these questions on the 26th...

ig also scored a mention in a sarah mclachlan article on the
same page but it's a fairly heinous article so i won't type
it in.

happy happy,
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just the fax
the indigo girls do everything together.  emily saliers liked
questions 1-5 while amy ray finished off the fax before their
show at the state theatre on february 26 and 27.

1. describe your perfect sunday.
sunshine, new york times, black coffee, church and a cookout
with my friends.

2. what gets you excited?
change for the better, american football, working with other
inspiring artists, anticipating events.

3. do you ever get tired of all the touring and supporting
causes?
i get tired of being away from home but i never get tired of
supporting causes.

4. have things been changing musically for the band?
we used to be pretty stripped down acoustic folk.  now we're
a bit more experimental with other instruments, electric or
otherwise.

5. what about lyrically?
we're both better lyricists.  i try to be less general and
bleeding heart emotional than i used to be.

6. if you could have one thing, what would it be?
peace of mind.

7. how creative is the studio recording process?
our studio experience is extremely open and creative.

8. have you met any interesting people while touring?
tons - most of the compelling personalities outside of fame
and fortune.  it's usually on the streets or in weird
circumstances that interesting people pop up.

9. what does 1998 hold for the indigo girls?
touring, touring and more touring.

10. what are you doing tonight?
walking around town and seeing what's up - hopefully
meeting some interesting people.


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the tv guide does not have ig listed for kentucky this saturday either.

does anyboby have ig listed to be on acl this weekend?

kim & rhea

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to identify the cage?
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i just deleted my whole filing cabinet on accident.  does anyone have the
dressing-room rider that was posted a few months ago, or the lyrics to amy's
new song (the one that was so sad)?  i'll be asking for more stuff as i try to
remember exactly what it was i lost that i got from the list.

thanks muchly, y'all!  :o)

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
   -   novitiate of suzanneglassism
     - president, grlchasr26 fan club
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
can you show me now that i will not be killed in vain,
show me just a little of your omnipresent brain!
show me there's a reason for your wanting me to die,
you're far too keen on where and when and not so hot on why!
-amy as jesus, "the garden of gethsemane"
from jesus christ super-star: a resurrection
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if y'all haven't tried, you might check out this sight for your local listing?
<a href="http://www.pbs.org/klru/austin/">welcome to austin cyber limits</a>
let me know if this helps.

~llm

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yeah, rites of passage is amazing. it plays in the background
of nearly all of my flashbacks from freshman and sophomore year
in college :):):)!

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> i think it is the best one yet.  except for the fact that they left out
> all the covers and some other ones i would have liked to see tabbed out.
> still, there are some things that i think are mistakes.  but all the
> songbooks have some suspiciously wrong tabs.  i'm really fond of the
> pushing the needle too far tab.  finally, it is on paper.

   the thing that really bothered me about the other ones is that the
guitar notation was kept separate from the piano and vocal notation.  i
like reading entire scores, that show what everybody does at the same
time---that makes life much easier.  how is this one set up?

   darius

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hey!

could anyone who was at eddie's attic last night tell me who won the open mic
contest?

i went there to see halcyon and those girls rocked!

thanks!

~~robin

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at 10:38 pm 2/23/98, kim wrote:
>
>at 11:49 am 2/23/98 -0600, dan perkins wrote:
>>recently there was a really great article in rolling stone about a study
>>done on twin boys.
>
>i saw a tv programme abt the very same man... the "doctor" who performed
>this experimental surgery messed terribly with that poor guy's mind...
>

actually, there's a medical article available on the web dealing with this
topic.  it talks about the individual in the rs article and goes into other
observations as well.  the address is: http://www.afn.org/~sfcommed/mdfnl.htm?

it's all rather interesting and definitely makes you think.

lisa

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http://www.planetout.com/minisites/womensnight98/auction.html

women's night 98 is a fundraiser for the los angeles gay and lesbian
center. the money raised at this event ($300,000 last year) go towards
women's services at the laglc. it is a fabulous event held at the beverly
hilton in beverly hills, ca. ellen degeneres is being honored along with
speaker pro tempore sheila james kuehl from california and senator carol
moseley braun of illinois.

in a couple of days you will be able to bid on an indigo girls autographed
guitar.

there is also a pair of ellen degeneres' own hush puppies! she wore these
on her show and they are autographed by both ellen and anne heche!

the event is march 7, 1998 and the auction will be closed by 9pm. there
will be directions at the site on how to bid, etc.
planetout, the host for the cyberauction will be doing a live broadcast on
the internet from the event. it is my understanding that amy and emily will
try to attend if their schedules permit. they were honored at this event a
couple of years ago and really liked it.
i will be happy to answer any questions in private e-mail.

pat dengler
silent auction chair
women's night 98

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on one of the songs on lpc - i can't remember which one, sorry.... -
jerry and sara and ani - wow......

john.


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kryten : "are you sure, sir? it does mean changing the bulb."

(red dwarf)

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hey all chicago listees-

for anyone who wants to watch "austin city limits" in the chicago area, you
could catch it on feb. 28th @ 9:00pm on channel 18 on my cable system....i'm
not really sure which station it is. it's a station from gary, in......

go to:

www.chicago.tribune.com

to find out about your cable system...

come to think of it, i think the station is wyin

hope this helped!

brian

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ahh, my computer crashes, i can't read the digests
for a few weeks and i miss all the good stuff!  this
may be late, but here are a few of my misheard lyrics.

in welcome me, i thought it was "a devil moheekan
ridding on my back" as in a native american, i can't
spell.

i thought the lyric to southland in the springtime
was "they'll be cider up near hell and off the
roadside", hell hellen, pretty close.  nice of satan
to sell cider anyway.

i also heard souplike vultures and empty cans of
chardenay (sp?).

anyway, i bought little plastic castles this weekend,
it's great!  as different from dilate as so is from
sots.  lots of free verse poetry type lyrics, and all
most a ska/punk sound to some songs.  ani just rocks.

also, i don't think i ever endorsed lisa germano's
album "excerpts from a love circus" which i have had
for a while.  very good, i wonder why she never sings
backup vocals in addition to playing the violin for
the indigo girls.  the album deals with some very
dark subjects, but still can make you smile at times.

anyway, next time everyone decides to stop arguing
and start posting interesting stuff, please don't do
it when i have no access to email.  thanks.

jeremy

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in a message dated 98-02-24 12:31:46 est, you write:

> does anyboby have ig listed to be on acl this weekend?

the only certainty i have is that it is being shown in the state of
texas....sometimes it *is* a nice thing to have relatives in texas ;) you can
tell i lived there once since i capitalized "state"....

jude :)

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hi everyone!

first of all: thanks to deb and martine for answering my question about
kristen hall. i found the tabs i was looking for, you made my day!!   :)

maybe i can ask you something else???  i heard that *many* years ago ig
and michelle shocked were together on mtv-unplugged. does anyone knows if
it's true? and if it is, has any of it been released on an album or a
bootleg?

greetings from holland!  :)

florence.

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in a message dated 98-02-24 03:53:22 est, you write:

<< what the hell do tight clothes, platform shoes, and push-up bras
>have to do with girl power.

absolutely nothing!!!!!!!

amy has real girl power, i've got girl power,
>the spice girls do not have girl power.
>
yes i second that! we have girl power and we don't need push up bras..
it has nothing to do w/that!

lamia
  >>

you go girl!!! couldn't have said it better myself! the spice girls are
trash!!!! a bad influence on everyone!!! they give the word "girl" a bad
name!!! i totally agree to the above! and in my opinion, the indigo girls have
the most girl power out of anyone!!!
~alyssa

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hey someone may have already asked this...
but is the austin city limits programming different for different parts
of the country??? cuz my tv book says that it's son volt and
singer/songwriter gillian somebody...could the book be wrong???
*ihope i hope!!!*

lemme know!

**hugs**

lamia


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on tue, 24 feb 1998, alyssa roberge wrote:

> you go girl!!! couldn't have said it better myself! the spice girls are
> trash!!!! a bad influence on everyone!!! they give the word "girl" a bad
> name!!! i totally agree to the above! and in my opinion, the indigo girls have
> the most girl power out of anyone!!!

you know, the last group i heard talked about in such terms was a british
girl band called "shampoo", who had a couple of hits around 1993-4 i
think.   they were almost as dreadful as the spice girls - their first hit
went something like "oh oh, we're in trouble, something's come along and
it's burst our bubble ...".   musically they had a sort of faintly
b-52's-ish sound, but they 'sang' in a sort of saaf lundon girl-gang type
of voice.   somebody enthused about them on a teletext discussion forum,
and somebody called that person "a disgrace to the female race" ...

the spice girls are just the same - one memorably awful song (wannabe),
followed by a load of rubbish which isn't memorable enough to be dreadful.
why they had to put out a new album and a movie is beyond me, and i
cringed when i saw them on tv next to vera lynn (wartime ballad singer)
introducing the remembrance day celebrations.   (they were in slightly
better dress than usual, mind.)

mat

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i found this place from my friend mantis...it's got a lot of guitar tabs
and *all* indigo girls songs if i'm not mistaken...

http://music.netsysincs.com/data/tabs

lamia
*who has played ghost 200 times today*

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date:         tue, 24 feb 1998 15:51:27 -0500
reply-to:     nighthawk <dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu>
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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 23 feb 1998
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> you know, the last group i heard talked about in such terms was a british
> girl band called "shampoo", who had a couple of hits around 1993-4 i
> think.   they were almost as dreadful as the spice girls - their first hit
> went something like "oh oh, we're in trouble, something's come along and
> it's burst our bubble ...".   musically they had a sort of faintly
> b-52's-ish sound, but they 'sang' in a sort of saaf lundon girl-gang type
> of voice.   somebody enthused about them on a teletext discussion forum,
> and somebody called that person "a disgrace to the female race" ...

   i think it was between 1995-96...i was in france that year, and that
song was all over.  'course, it was better than the french pop music, m.c.
solar, and all that scary crap...the only decent song we'd hear was rem's
losing my religion, and i got really sick of that...

> the spice girls are just the same - one memorably awful song (wannabe),

   but one has to be amused by their antics, and their ability to make
money is pretty amazing...much as i despise bill gates, being him wouldn't
be altogether a bad deal...  ;)

   darius

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date:         wed, 25 feb 1998 07:58:20 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject:      too much nigc...
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hey folks,

the nigc content is a leeeetle too high - could we try
to tone it down a little?

thanks, :)
sherlyn

ps - oh, oh - listmeet in sydney, tomorrow night, 6pm at
primos, top floor of the qvb.  i'll be wearing a huge black
shirt with the rop cover on the front...
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      so you can see tomorrow..."       - merril bainbridge

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date:         tue, 24 feb 1998 12:52:17 -0800
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ut oh... looks like the spice girls are taking another pounding on the
indigo-girls list... watch it, or i'll be forced to revise my "it's alright"
spoof... "it's all spice"... we don't want *that* to happen, now do we???
don' worry peoples... the spice girls'll be off the scene in a cloud o' hair
spray in no time. the only way to fight back and prove what real "girl
power" is, is to *be* it... uh... guys... you might wanna try this at
home:-) yeegads!!! i'm back to talking "feminine/masculine again!! will i
never shut up??
okay... doing *that* now...
peace y'all, kim
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kim: in a fowl mood.
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date:         tue, 24 feb 1998 16:01:33 -0500
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subject:      ohio boots

did anyone get the columbus show from dec 1st or the nov dayton show?  i
was at both and would really like a copy of one or both of them!  i'd be
willing to give away my first born....or whatever else you may want.

thanks...rhonda

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date:         tue, 24 feb 1998 15:17:46 -0600
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subject:      announcement: winner of last supper poster
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wow, i got quite a response to my little last supper poster contest.
unfortunately after going through the piles of stuff in my spare rooms, i
was only able to find one extra poster. that poster is being rewarded to
lesley stubbs who sent me what was by-far the most creative and compelling
entry (with an emphasis on "creative"). folks, this was one time when
saying you had boots to trade with me wasn't going to cut it (even keying
on the hometown aspect wasn't quite enough - sorry lisa)

lesley, on-the-other-hand, shared a touching story of her attempts to
recreate the poster on her own and how the project has turned into a
sistine chapel-ish type endeavor but one that may soon lead to madness. i
can't have that sort of tragedy on my shoulders, so lesley gets the poster.

thanks to all who entered! once i start packing more i'll see if i have
other items to offer to the list.

deb

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date:         tue, 24 feb 1998 16:19:01 -0500
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subject:      have you seen this?

my friend lauren is very well trained.  today in art class she was using
magazines to wrap up her latest stained glass thing, and she saw that
there was a pic of ig in one of the mags.  so of course she ripped it out
for me and gave it to me! :)  but anyway, it's a picture i'd seen before,
but the thing that got me was the review of the album (the magazine was
from early may).  here is what it says:

"the girls' harmonies still raise goose bumps, their melodies still stir
the soul, and their lyrics still remind you of the most pc girl at church
camp.  but now they've embraced electric guitars and the result is a
looser, more "live" studio album, emphasizing the rock in this folk-rock
duo.  and "shame on you" is a sing-along joy" -- beth johnson

she gave the album an overall rating of b.  but the thing that got me was
the "pc church girl" part. i think that shaming departs from that goody
goodiness that obviously this author saw in the earlier ones.  funny, but
i don't see the pc church girls using bad words or talking about being
gay!  i dunno, it just struck me as a little off base....sorry if this is
old news! :)

carolyn
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when in doubt make a fool of yourself.  there is a microscopically thin
line between
being brilliantly creative and acting like the most gigantic idiot on
earth.  so what the
hell, leap.
~~ cynthia heimel

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date:         tue, 24 feb 1998 14:25:52 pst
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lyrics to amy's new song (the one that was so sad)?

huh? what is this??

lamia

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date:         tue, 24 feb 1998 17:30:39 -0500
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okay, now i am warning y'all, this may be a rumor, but i heard today from
people who know what is going on that the indigo girls are coming here
(wittenberg) in april!  okay, now as i said, this has not been confirmed,
and i will keep y'all posted.

please don't e-mail me asking for ticket info or anything.  i don't know
anything yet, and i don't know how many tickets i will be able to buy and
how much they will be...i promise to keep y'all posted as i get the info.

:-) karen

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"yeah but what it takes to cross the great divide, seems more than all the
courage i can muster up inside, but we get to have some answers when we
cross the other side, the prize is always worth the rocky ride."
        --indigo girls (emily saliers)

"forget about your ego, forget about your pride, and you will never have
to compromise."
        --indigo girls (amy ray)

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east asian studies                                      political science
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the first dream i had with the girls in it went a little something like this:

        i was in montana with a bunch of women i had just met.  we were instant
friends and partying all over the place.  and the indigo girls were playing
a concert in that town later on that night.  so we all went to the concert.
        at the concert, one of the women and i seperated from the group to get
more drinks (which we put in blue plastic cups).  on the way there, we ran
into amy and emily.  they were both incredibly overweight.  amy didn't look
like amy at all, she looked just like wendy wasserstein.
        anyway, we talked and made plans to party after the show.  went on with
the concert.  blah.  blah.  blah.   point was the wendy wasserstein thing.
i found it very odd.  just thought i'd share.
jessica

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date:         tue, 24 feb 1998 17:28:10 -0600
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just a suggestion to everyone who is wondering when austin city limits with
ig will be on in there area.....send a very friendly e-mail to your local
pbs station asking when this particular episode will be on...i did and got
an answer back pronto...confirming that indeed ig will be on my local pbs
station this sat night at 9....
        now remember...every pbs affiliate airs programs basically whenever they
like so you must check with your local affiliate.  if you don't know what
yours is check the www.pbs.org website to find out...they also have all the
e-mail addresses listed!!!
        if you don't have access to the web, e-mail me with the state and call
letters
(ex. ktca)  of your local pbs affiliate and i will look up the info for
you.  please please please don't ask me to do this if you have access to
the web, you can figure it out if you go to the pbs site.  i'm going out
for awhile...but will answer requests later tonight.

casey

p.s. one other thing...acl does not run on some pbs affiliates, once again
this is their option...so maybe take a moment to send your affiliate a note
saying you would like to see it on their schedule...

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hi everyone,

this is the ig article from last saturday's sydney morning herald
(feb 21 1998).  i don't know if it's in the age as well.  you can
find it on the web at
http://www.smh.com.au/daily/content/features/features/980221/features8.html
it's not a bad article, but i think it was actually written
sometime last year...

-sherlyn


real grrrl power
they're rebels with a chorus - two gay singers who wrap a serious message
in sweet melodies and honeyed harmonies. lauren martin listens to the
gospel according to the indigo girls.


to say the indigo girls are political is wild understatement. they live,
breathe and sing politics, in rich, toasted-honey harmonies, heedless of
the postmodern fashion that makes a mockery of political correctness.

now, there are some bands who "do politics" and are considered cool
because of it. "we're not one of those," admits anarchist, activist,
lesbian pop star amy ray, one of two folk-rocking indigo girls. "we're
seen as being overly earnest." then, with clear intent to subvert the
slogan, she adds: "but we just do it".

what ray and emily saliers have just done is to sell more than 7 million
albums in eight years. they have just done it with precious little help
from commercial radio, which has ignored their songs since the first
single, closer to fine, led their second, self-titled album to a 1989
grammy award for best contemporary folk album - an award they're up for
again this year. they have been ignored by mtv, even as the station has
embraced next-generation guitar folksters such as the wet-lipped jewel.
what the indigo girls just don't do is make much of an issue about their
sexuality.

but right now, on the eve of their second australian tour, they are
trying desperately to make an issue of a proposal to dump nuclear waste
on western shashone indian land in nevada.

"the thing that we're fighting is, the shipments would last for a period
of 30 years and there would be 15,000 of them and they're high-level
waste, and they would not only ship the waste but they would keep
creating more at the utility companies, so as soon as they got rid of
some they would create more," argues ray, suddenly aware she's getting
worked up.

"it just seemed like a really bad idea," she adds casually, lest she
sound too earnest. oh, what the hell: she's off again. "then there's the
fact that the legislation changed the liability so that if there was an
accident, the taxpayers had to pay for it.

"so we've been fighting that with a bunch of affiliated indian groups.
and then we fight things like clear-cutting and mining issues and land
rights and sacred sights - maybe similar to your indigenous issues."

there are no borders in indigo girls politics. ray was recently in
mexico on a mission with members of pearl jam and rage against the
machine's frontman, zack de la rocha. they were down with the zapatista
peasant rebels, seeing some of the most brutal politics being played
right now.

the girls ran a lyric-writing program in high schools across the united
states; awards included a special tape of six socially conscious indigo
girls songs.

they started their own grassroots environmental campaign called honour
the earth with some native american friends. a lot of the united states'
resources - uranium, gold, timber, coal - are on indian land, making a
natural link that wasn't being exploited politically. so in 1995 the
indigo girls staged 21 benefit concerts in 16 states in what turned out
to be the largest single fund-raising effort in the history of native
american activism.

they've just returned from another month-long tour, raising a few
hundred thousand more dollars. now they're in minnesota, at a place
called the earth lodge, perusing applications for honour the earth
community grants. (ray makes apologies for saliers, who was supposed to
be in the interview but "is still in her sweat" - an indian sweat
lodge.)

there are no borders in indigo girls music, either. the politics have
not only informed their lyrics but amped up their style and energy. the
most recent album, last year's shaming the sun, lifted the girls beyond
their previous reputation as joni mitchell's prodigal daughters. for a
band accused of doing the same thing over and over again, albeit
beautifully, shaming the sun was a risk.

"i think that's true," says the dark-haired, dark-eyed ray, admitting
there was a lot of creative tension in making it. "we've become more
comfortable in the studio while our politics have expanded us.

"when we started working with a lot of the more strident activism that
we've done - you know, with [the zapatistas] in mexico and some of the
indian issues and some of the gay issues - we got much more outspoken.
and just by virtue of getting older and feeling like we've seen things
now that we hadn't seen before, we realised we don't have anything to
lose. when you see people that are dying for causes, literally dying for
their cause ... you don't really think of your life the same way any
more."

the experience affects their songwriting, but perhaps more clearly in
the case of the more raw and ragged shaming the sun, it affects their
approach to producing an album. "we're not so precious on things any
more," ray explains. "you learn to have fun and you learn not to take it
all so seriously."

it's a funny line, this edge of what's to be taken seriously. take the
indigo girls' adventure into television. in a triple-whammy of lesbian
chic, emily and amy scored a cameo on ellen. the girls almost had to
decline because they were booked to do an honour the earth gig in ames,
iowa, on the night that america's most out tv star was to record the
show in los angeles. their record label, epic, reportedly stepped in
and booked a lear jet to get them to both appearances, but even that was
a bit much for saliers and ray. "we had to twist their arms to get them
to agree to the jet," a spokeswoman for the girls told reporters. "it's
a little star-trippy for them."

ray doesn't know what to make of celebrity, let alone lesbian celebrity.
"there's definitely a trend of lesbian chic and "marketing to the dykes'.
but there's still a lot of prejudice out there. there's still a lot of
places in america i know - a lot of families that aren't accepting and a
lot of places where you aren't accepted, and there are still people that
live maybe in more rural areas who have to fear for their existence and
their jobs and stuff.

"but i think some of the lesbian chic kind of stuff, and ellen - you know,
the things that are happening that are more "out' - i think it helps. it
helps the movement. it may hurt it, too - we just don't know yet.

"you always have to wait until the trend passes to understand whether
you've made any progress or not."

saliers and ray have always been out and never romantically together.
they live separately, write separately and view the world differently.
ray, 33, lives in rural georgia; saliers, 34, in atlanta. "we've probably
stayed together for so long [about 18 years including the years before
they signed with a major label] because we have our own space."

the space, however, is an increasing challenge in their music. "before
this last record, i had written all these songs that just seemed so far
out of indigo girl territory," says ray, who has a reputation as the more
driven of the two. she thought about a solo record. she couldn't imagine
reconciling what she'd written with saliers's precision-pop style. in the
end, they decided that nothing was out of indigo girls territory. why
limit the band? they put more shade in their light, upbeat trademark
tunes and put out an electrified, passionate album. fans loved it. fans,
it should be said, of whom half are reported to be male and largely in
their 40s and 50s.

the band just may go anywhere from here. shaming had echoes of bruce
springsteen, and cameos by steve earle and the native american ensemble
ulali. punk-rocking ray reveals that country music, of all things, has
been sneaking into her material. but she's keen to do stripped-down,
naked folk.

"emily, she's kind of gotten into, like, samba and salsa and stuff
lately, which is really cool ... so there may be some stuff coming out
like that."

rays describes saliers as the more musically accomplished of the two.
that's how she explains the clear distinction between "emily songs" and
"amy songs" (every girls fan has a preference).

"i have a lower voice, and i tend to write songs that are more guttural
because of that," suggests ray. "i'm much more influenced by the
alternative and the kind of post-punk scene. and the way i feel, i
express myself in a way that i suppose is much more guttural, just
because i don't have as much finesse.

"emily has a lot of finesse and has a great command of musical
vocabulary, and those things come out in her writing. her images are very
polished, i think. we both use our weaknesses and our strengths, but they
differ. they differentiate us and i think we come together despite that,
because we just trust it."

what ray doesn't trust is corporate america. she runs her own underground
music label, daemon, to support local artists in athens, georgia, and she
has been largely suspicious of the music business.

the duo go into the studio later this year to record. speculation abounds
as to whether they will re-sign with epic when their contract expires,
although both girls have praised the label's approach to their creative
freedom.

"there are things emily and i are not of one mind on," ray concedes. "the
environmental stuff - we work very closely on these issues and we always
agree. there are maybe other political things that we differ on, probably
to do with issues of ... well, fighting the corporate battle. i tend to be
a little more anarchy-oriented at times."

just as she's about to verge off into the political again, however, ray
makes it personal. "but we're pretty solid: it feels really good to have
her as an ally."

and if lack of airplay is the price they have to pay for their politics,
so be it. "it's not fashionable for us, but it's inspirational," says ray.
"it outweighs all those other things; it doesn't weaken us. we just put
our heads down and play music and do our activism, both things
independently and together, and just live out what's in our hearts.

"we just do it."

the indigo girls play the state theatre in sydney on thursday and friday
next week.


=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= a+e=ig
"i'll breathe and grieve and struggle and strive and love and love and
love, and if i'm lucky, once - just once - the dream will drop to the
floor and shatter in shards of silence.  but i will see, i will see,
in the pattern of the pieces i will see... something.  this will,
this will, this will happen..."                - peter mulvey

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date:         tue, 24 feb 1998 18:54:53 -0500
reply-to:     sarah pinsker <spinsker@goucher.edu>
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does anybody know the name of  the song that goes "i've been through the
desert on a horse with no name..."? its been in my head for three days
now...

sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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date:         tue, 24 feb 1998 19:08:49 -0500
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yes, it is true!  if you go to mtv.com (i think) and go to unplugged, you
can find a write up and pictures.  maybe even a sound clip.
lori


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at 05:23 pm 2/24/98 -0600, about her ig dream, jessica wrote:
<snipperoony>
>on the way there, we ran
>into amy and emily.  they were both incredibly overweight.
sometime long ago i read that dreaming of overweight people, or of yourself
as being overweight, means that in your mind they/you are very successful in
what they/you do:-) ( you know... "fat with success" )these dreams about the
girls being overweight must mean the dreamers think of the girls as
successful huh? wonder if it'll come true?!!! :-)too, in our culture,
overweight women are generally viewed as nurturing + matronly, hmmmm...
perhaps something about their music makes y'all feel nurtured + mothered?? i
dunno tho... amy just don't seem all that "motherly" on stage :-) but, well,
i can see emily in that sorta role... never mind... just an interesting
observation i thought i'd share.
peace in yer world, all, kim

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well, i got these from a girl on the sheryl crow list.  i don't know how accurate they
are, but i don't see why they wouldn't be accurate.  i wish they weren't accurate,
because i'm leaving for a 6 month long soul-searching tour of europe (july 6-24, oxford;
july 24-aug 29 everywhere; aug 29-dec 19 paris) on july 4th and i live two hours from
where the tour is coming on july 5th.  maybe i can make it to indianapolis...yeah, i'm
going to europe, i know i shouldn't be complaining, but i can't survive without my girls.
i think you all know how i feel.  how long has it been since the girls toured europe,
anyway?  maybe they'll come to paris when i'm there, and i can be their personal
translator.  yeah.
                                 stephanie

> >> starting june 20th:
> >> portland, or  portland meadows
> >> june 21 george, wa the gorge
> >> june 23 concord, ca concord pavillion
> >> june 24 san francisco shoreline amphitheatre
> >> june 25 los angeles, ca rose bowl or hollywood bowl
> >> june 27 san diego, ca chula vista or summer pops
> >> june 28 phoenix, az desert sky pavillion
> >> june 29 santa fe, nm santa fe downs or albuquerque, nm
> >> july 1 tulsa, ok mohawk park or expo square pavillion or oklahoma city,
> >> ok
> >> zoo amphitheater
> >> july 2 bonner springs, ks sandstone amphitheater
> >> july 3 indianapolis, in deer creek
> >> july 5 columbus, oh polaris amphitheatre
> >> july 6 (possibility)  detroit, mi pine knob
> >> july 7 & 8 detroit, mi pine knob
> >> july 9 (possiblity)  rochester, ny finger lake or buffalo, ny darien
> >> lake
> >> july 10 rochester, ny finger lake or buffalo, ny darien lake
> >> july 11 hartford, ct meadows music theatre
> >> july 12 saratoga springs, ny spac
> >> july 14 holmdel, nj pnc banks arts center
> >> july 15 nyc, ny  jones beach amphitheater
> >> july 16 nyc, ny  jones beach amphitheater
> >> july 18 camden, nj entertainment centre
> >> july 19 columbia, md merriweather post pavillion
> >> july 20 virginia beach, va gte va beach amphitheater
> >> july 22 raleigh, nc walnut creek
> >> july 23 charlotte, nc blockbuster pavillion
> >> july 24 atlanta, ga lakewood
> >> july 26 west palm beach , fl coral sky
> >> july 27 orlando, fl central florida fair grounds
> >> july 28  birmingham, al oak mt.
> >> july 29 new orleans, la   tbd
> >> july 30 houston, tx woodlands
> >> july 31 austin, tx south park meadows
> >> august 1 dallas, tx starplex
> >> august 3 nashville, tn starwood
> >> august 4 st louis, mo riverport amphitheater or cincinnati, oh riverbend
> >> aug 5 chicago, il world music
> >> aug 6 cleveland, oh  blossom music theater
> >> aug 8 cincinnati, oh riverbend or st louis, mo riverport amphitheater
> >> aug 9 pittsburg, pa starlake
> >> aug 11 hershy, pa hershey park stadium or scranton, pa montage mountain
> >> aug 12 & 13 mansfield, ma great woods
> >> aug 15 ottawa, ont lansdowne park
> >> aug 16 grand rapids, mi val du lakes
> >> aug 17 & 18 toronto, ont molson amphitheater
> >> aug 20 milwaukee, wi marcus amphitheater
> >> aug 21 minneapoils, mn cantebury park
> >> aug 23 denver, co fiddler's green
> >> aug 25 salt lake city, ut wolf mountain
> >> aug 26 boise, id idaho center amphitheatre
> >> aug 28 calgary, alb   tbd
> >> aug 29 edmonton, alb  tbd
> >> aug 31 vancouver, bc  tbd
> >>
> >>
> >
> >dan perugini
> >dperugin@medmail.mcg.edu
> >dperugin@mail.mcg.edu
> >"with malice toward none,
> >with charity for all,
> >with firmness in the right as god gives us to see that right,
> >let us strive to finish the work we are in."
> >     abraham lincoln
> >
> >
> >
>

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for some reason there is not to my knowledge one pbs station in the
washington/baltimore area that is airing austin city limits...would someone be
willing to tape it and trade for it...(blanks, etc)...until then i am going to
keep checking the listing and web sites of all the stations in case one of
them changes their mind....

does anybody from the area have any info?

thanks

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at 05:27 pm 2/24/98 -0800, kim:perky morning goddess wrote:
>amy just don't seem all that "motherly" on stage :-) but, well,
>i can see emily in that sorta role...

yeah, that's kinda the way i always thought of it- emily as the more
likely *mother* of the two.  but do ya'll remember way back last fall
(i think it was around that time) when someone posted an interview
with the girls where they were asked about whether or not they wanted
to have children someday?  it went something like this:  amy answered
"yes, definitely" (these are not *exact* quotes, despite my cute little "
marks)
and emily said, "well, no; not really, but i could get the urge and want to
tomorrow!"

anyway, i don't remember what this interview was from, but i remember
thinking at the time how backwards this seemed to me (from what i'd
expect, anyway) and kim's observation just made me think of that.
because i, for one, agree with kim-  emily seems more like the motherly
type.  i just think their answers to that question seem switched!
anyone else remember reading that interview, or did i just make it
up in my crazy, crazy mind?

leigh ann

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i can't really give a solid explanation for this, but even before
reading the posts about the indigo girls as mothers, i would have said
that i definitely thought of amy as the "mothering type" before emily.
i'm not sure what it is about either of them that makes me think
that--just an overall feeling.  kind of like how you can tell just by
knowing someone, without asking, whether they prefer leno or letterman,
science fiction or courtroom drama, etc.

melissa.

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does anyone know which of these dates will include ig, or which dates will
have any other specific performers, for that matter?


erica

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hi.  i just heard (read) that hte indigo girls have been invited to play
at the yale spring fling.  yay.  but they haven't confirmed yet.  but
it's still really exciting.  do any yalies know anything about this
spring fling.  what it really is?  where?  when?  $?  etc.  and if
non-yalies can attend?  you can wirte me privately at
wongjulia@hotmail.com  thanks, juliet

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the interview mentioning amy or emily wanting children is in the book
"daughters of the moon, sisters of the sun". when asked if they ever
want to have children, amy replies (not exact quote) "yeah i've thought
about it. maybe when we slow down after touring..." and emily says
"nooooo.... though i could have a hormonal sure tomorrow and want to..."
*cuties* but yeah, i always thought of em as more maternal too..but i'd
settle for either as a mom. heehee. i'm kidding. i'd rather have my own
mother.

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in a message dated 98-02-24 20:31:14 est, you write:

<< too, in our culture,
overweight women are generally viewed as nurturing + matronly, hmmmm... >>

i have to disagree with this.  speaking from the point of view of one of the
discussed "overweight women" i have the following to say: in our culture,
overweight women are generally regarded as too lazy to do anything about their
weight.  overweight women, in a culture of "heroin chic" and dazzy dukes
short-shorts, are virtually social pariahs.  there is nothing positive about
being an overweight person, especially when it's an illness that makes you
that way.

can the weight threads please stop now?  i personally would appreciate it
terribly.

peace, harmony and indigo,

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hey folks,

does anybody have the dvd release of "watershed"?  i've
seen two references now to a "10 min. electronic press kit"
which was apparently included/added to it or something...
anybody know what this is?

btw, cdnow (http://www.cdnow.com) is now taking advance
orders for the new new mongrels album "big cup of empty",
due march 17.  us$11.99, i think it's on sale... i didn't
check the other online stores, don't know about
availability or prices or anything at other places...

hm, :)
sherlyn
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floor and shatter in shards of silence.  but i will see, i will see,
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this will, this will happen..."                - peter mulvey

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amy recently stated in a curve magazine interview
that ig still owes epic 3 more albums.  i know some of
you were curious about that.

austin city limits will be on in los angeles at 11:00 pm
saturday and on tour will be on at 12:00 am.  i will
try and tape both shows.

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hey guys...i don't seem to be getting all my mail from the list, so pardon
me if this has already been said. the picture in the march issue of curve
is definitely amy. look at her face again. i know the hair color might
throw you off, but it's definitely her. does anyone know anything about the
hair color or if the pic was just snapped in weird lighting? thanks!
                                                christy :)

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ok, sorry, not ig related, but some nice girl sent me a video tape of all
these tours of the girls, and i just wanted to get in touch with her to thank
her.  if anyone knows karen asiu from kahului, maui, hawaii, could you please
let me know?     sorry this didnt relate to the girls, but i do hope to see
all of you at the mississippi concert!  i am jumping outta my own pants
here.!!!  bye now, trooper

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sorry to waste bandwidth...apologies genuine.
however, i think i've been taken.

has anyone ever dealt with kahst18@nb.net?  her name is kim hugo and we were
supposed to have been making a major trade, involving more than boots.  i have
not heard from her in over a week and have not received anything in the mail
either.  if anyone has any info on this woman, please please please let me
know asap.
thanks and sorry again,
carrie

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hi y'all,
i am going home to chicago for spring break on friday.  my question is, do
any of you chicagoians know if our pbs (channel 11 by me...) is going to
air austin city limits?  if not, can someone maybe dubb me a copy?  i'd be
willing to send a tape or money and of course pay for postage.  thanks!

:-) karen

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exact quotes from "daugters of the moon and sisters of the sun"...
บบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบ
linda: "do either of you want to be mothers?"
emily: "no, but i could get the hormonal surge and want to tomorrow!"
amy: "ive wanted to, but i think i wasnt to finish this tour first and then
think about it. i really wanted to have kids but i also had a relationship
that just ended that was like a seven year marriage, and i dont want to have
kids in the context of being by myself. i think being a mother would be a
great experience."
บบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบ
just posting for informational purposes because i happen to have my daughters
book nearby...lalala... :)

love and slack,
tara, who also thought of amy first when considering indigo mommas.

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> can the weight threads please stop now?  i personally would appreciate it
> terribly.

yes, and i'm ugly so lets not have any comments on how attractive certain
people are or i might just cry!

maybe we could add nfc (fat) & nuc (ugly) to nigc so us sensitive types can
skip these messages?

andy;-)

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you wrote:
>does anybody know the name of  the song that goes "i've been through
>the desert on a horse with no name..."?

it's not neil young - it's a band called america.  if i'm not mistaken,
the song was titled "horse with no name" and is on their
self-titled album. (circa about 1973/4 or so) (coulda been on their
hat-trick album, but i'm almost sure it was the self-titled one)
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> >does anybody know the name of  the song that goes "i've been through
> >the desert on a horse with no name..."?
>
> it's not neil young - it's a band called america.  if i'm not
> mistaken, the song was titled "horse with no name" and is on their
> self-titled album. (circa about 1973/4 or so) (coulda been on their
> hat-trick album, but i'm almost sure it was the self-titled one)

yep, it's called "horse with no name" and it was also on america's
greatest hits, with what was, at one time, my favorite song (ca. the mid
1970's), "seasons in the sun" (which, i think helped prime me for ig).

[kudos to my older brother's record collection and his fancy stereo that
i used (under penalty of *death*) whenever he wasn't home!]  ;)

:o)
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hi all...
i live directly between chicago and milwaukee, and as such i get the
public t.v. stations of both.  according to the local version of
tv guide, austin city limits will be aired on milwaukee's "channel 10"
on saturday night at 10pm.  (no indication of when chicago's station
will air it...?)  the write-up is as follows:

"indigo girls and kim richey.  songs include "shame on you," "i know,"
"bad reputation," "fallin'," "baby don't you break my heart slow," "i'm
alright.(sic)"

i don't see any listing for on tour...

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was anyone else recently unsubscribed from nadc?  i did not
send an unsubscribe request and yet i received a message stating
that my unsubscrie request had been processed.  the message also
ended with "i wasn't joking when i said goodbye" which is an
ani lyric.

anyone else have this happen to them?

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from: pollstar

indigo girls official tour dates (as of feb 25, 1998 am)

02/26/98   sydney, aus     state theatre
02/27/98   sydney, aus     state theatre
03/02/98   adelaide, aus   heaven nightclub
03/04/98   perth, aus      concert hall
03/06/98   canberra, aus   canberra theatre
04/24/98   hanover, nh     dartmouth college
04/26/98   carlisle, pa    dickinson college
08/09/98   newport, ri     fort adams state park (folk fest)

* 04/18/98   starkville, ms  ms state u (officially uncomfirmed)
* 04/25/98   new haven, ct   yale u (officially uncomfirmed)

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>04/26/98   carlisle, pa    dickinson college

does anyone know if un-students can attend this???

alisa

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two new dates (from www.pollstar.com)
        4/24 - dartmouth college - nh
        4/26 - dickinson college - pa

okay lucky east coast people...please send them back to the midwest.....

casey

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re: jonatha brooke (of the story) - friday night - cheap!!!

hey there, fellow chicagoarians (wait, is that some new sign of the
zodiac???)
anyway, friday night at harper college (where i go to school) jonatha
brooke will be playing the "coffee house."  (bldg. a, lounge) she's
one-half of the band the story, and is an excellent s/s and guitarist.
admission is only five bucks, and the show starts at 7:30. harper is in
palatine - a near nw suburb - and the venue is cozy!  i'll be there with
my husband, so if you end up going and want to stop and visit with us,
please do!

we are identifiable as follows:
me - longish dark hair, wire-rimmed glasses, wearing a brightly colored
red/gold turkish vest
my husband (steve) - long ponytail, blondish mustache.
we're in our early forties, and will be going early so we'll be
(hopefully!) close to the front.
hope to see some of you there -
peace-nic

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michelle malone official tour dates  (from: pollstar 2/25/98)

(most dates - on tour with chris whitley)

  02/26/98   decatur, ga           eddie's attic
?*03/07/98   philadelphia, pa      tin angel
?*03/23/98   los angeles, ca       troubadour
  03/24/98   redondo beach, ca     club caprice
  03/25/98   san francisco, ca     bottom of the hill
  03/27/98   portland, or          berbati's pan
  03/28/98   seattle, wa           tractor tavern
  03/29/98   vancouver, bc         richard's on richards
  04/01/98   salt lake city, ut    zephyr club
  04/02/98   boulder, co           fox theatre
  04/05/98   milwaukee, wi         rave
  04/06/98   chicago, il           martyrs'
  04/07/98   indianapolis, in      patio
  04/13/98   washington, dc        black cat
  04/14/98   pittsburgh, pa        rosebud
  04/15/98   cleveland, oh         peabody's down under
  04/16/98   ferndale, mi          magic bag
  04/19/98   montreal, que         cabaret music hall
  04/20/98   portland, me          raoul's
  04/22/98   new york, ny          wetlands preserve
  04/23/98   baltimore, md         fletcher's
  05/01/98   decatur, ga           eddie's attic

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ani difranco official tour dates  (from pollstar 2/25/98)


  03/07/98  port fairy, aus        port fairy folk festival
  03/08/98  port fairy, aus        port fairy folk festival
  03/10/98  melbourne, aus         national theatre
  03/11/98  sydney, aus            metro
  03/12/98  brisbane, aus          tivoli theatre
  03/13/98  adelaide, aus          governor hindmarsh hotel
  03/14/98  perth, aus             fly by night club
  03/19/98  tokyo, jpn             liquid room
  03/20/98  tokyo, jpn             club quattro
  03/21/98  osaka, jpn             heat beat
  03/22/98  osaka, jpn             banana hall
  04/01/98  toronto, ont           massey hall
  04/02/98  montreal, que          metropolis
  04/03/98  durham, nh             whittemore center arena
  04/04/98  amherst, ma            mullins center
  04/06/98  providence, ri         providence perf. arts ctr.
  04/08/98  university park, pa    eisenhower auditorium
  04/09/98  ithaca, ny             bailey hall
  04/10/98  albany, ny             palace theatre
  04/11/98  new haven, ct          palace theater
  04/14/98  columbus, oh           mershon auditorium
  04/15/98  notre dame, in         notre dame university
  04/17/98  bloomington, il        shirk center
  04/18/98  milwaukee, wi          rave
  04/20/98  cincinnati, oh         cincinnati music hall
  04/22/98  asheville, nc          thomas wolfe aud.
  04/23/98  atlanta, ga            masquerade
  04/27/98  lake buena vista, fl   house of blues
  05/01/98  pelham, al             healthsouth plaza
  05/03/98  new orleans, la        jazz & heritage festival
  07/01/98  morrison, co           red rocks amphitheatre
  07/11/98  vancouver, bc          plaza of nations
  07/12/98  winnipeg, man          folk festival
  08/09/98  newport, ri            ben & jerry's newport folk fest

  [igc: ig will be at newport folk fest on sun aug 9, 1998 - too!]

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at 09:31 am 2/25/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>04/26/98   carlisle, pa    dickinson college

argh!! i can hardly believe this. one year after i'm graduated they
actually get them? for the last three years we had them as write ins on the
concert list and the general consensus was who are they?


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is it true that hotels are already sold out?  please say no!  i am trying
to convince my best friend to go...any other non-hotel ideas for one night?

alisa

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i did sort of meet them at the cd release of shaming of the sun at tower
records in atlanta when they were signing cds after a small performance. i
always figured they were nice just from listening to live albums and
reading interviews but i couldn't believe how incredibly sweet and gracious
they were to their fans. it was amazing to see such genuinely nice people
who had been in this industry for so long and hadn't been hardened by it. i
was totally starstruck (as i think most of the 2000 people there were) and
could hardly babble out a grovelling "you guys are so great. i can't wait
to see you in concert next month." the whole time i was in line (2 1/2
hours) i was trying to think of what i would say but nothing seemed cool or
unique. oh well. but it was still one of the best memories of my year in
atlanta (right up there with getting my picture taken with sonia rustein at
eddie's).
yehudi

at 08:00 pm 2/22/98 -0000, you wrote:
>what would you say if you meet the indigo girls or just one indigo girl? if
>you have met them how was your reaction was it what you thought or did you
>freeze? missy
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some boys dream of marrying presidents -
me i'm kind of winging it on a visionary ear.
wish you could hear it the way i hear."
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i had to add my story about meeting favorite singers.  jane siberry (great canadian
singer who you should check out if you want something new!!) came to town and we
waited afterwards as she was signing her albums.  we were trying to think of really
great things to say and the only thing we could come up with was "so. . . . do you
like. . . stuff?".  when we finally got to the front we stood
awestruck/dumbfounded/stupidly and all we could mutter was "stuff hee hee stuff"
but managed to thank her for singing "love is everything" and told her that we sing
along and howl and everything and she just said we were pathetic (jokingly, of
course).  jane siberry said i was pathetic.  what a great day.

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sorry for the waste of space but to add another date to that list, which has
been looked over, ani will also play for florida state university at the moon
on april 25th!!!!!!!  finally something interesting happening in tallahasse,
fl.  aside from any fsu sports.

jillian :-)

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i know a lot of you are having trouble finding out when the saw is being
aired and on what channel. i know that i checked the website yesterday and
it's only being aired in certain cities. i live in new york city and it's
only playing in two places in new york state. here's an idea. i haven't
tried it yet, but i'm going to. i was wondering if it wan't being
broadcast where you live if you could call, write, or e-mail pbs and ask
them to send you a tape of the show? i wonder if that would be possible.
any thoughts? my e-mail is:

cch211@is8.nyu.edu (address all lowercase)

take care,
chloe

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i am moving and i need to sell my collection.  if interested please e-mail me.

(2) jesus christ superstar posters      $30ea.
the ep vinyl $325 obo
target promo cd $25
club r&r cd $150 obo
land of canaan cd single $8
watershed cd single w/3 tracks $20
joking cd single $10
ghost cd single $20
hammer & a nail cd single $10
galileo cd (england import) w/ 4 tracks $18
least complicated cd (england import) with 4 tracks      $18
matthew sweet cd "sweet n low" indigo girls sing cortez the killer      $30
reverse 1 cd $150 obo
99x for humanity cd (out of print) girls sing down by the river $35
touch me fall cd (australian import) with 3 tracks $18
rites promo trifold digipak cd sealed   $30
least complicated cd w/ 5 tracks        $15
brown rites cd promo  $22
self titled japanese import cd  $30
closer to fine cd w/ 3 tracks   $20
(2) bury my heart cd w/ 3 tracks $10ea
galileo cassette single $8
(2) least complicated cassette single $5ea
(2) power of two cassette single         $5ea
shaming of the sun stickers     4 for $1
rites cd in original cardboard box      $20
rites of passage on vinyl        $35
(2) swamp ophelia stand up promos $10ea
(2) shades of indigo green vinyl $45ea
(2) land of canaan + 5 live vinyl $30ea
12" closer to fine vinyl w/ 3 tracks    $25
braves hat autographed by amy, emily & kristen hall     $100
swamp hat w/ eyeball on front   $25
(6) shame on you cd     $10ea
shaming of the sun calendar $15
michelle malone & drag the river dogtags        $15

thanks

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leafing through my college (bates) alumni magazine today, the name indigo
girls popped out at me.  here's the paragraph that accompanied a picture of a
bald-headed student being patted on the head by a friend:

<<the indigo girls came to bates in september, and as part of an orientation-
week talent show, students were offered the chance at free tickets -- if they
agreed to a shaved head.  lani pilobello '01 of vancouver, washington figured
it was a fair trade ("i just didn't know how to tell my mom," she said).  she
enjoyed the concert for free -- and became one of the best-known first-year
students in the process.>>

i know lots of people around here have done some wacky things in order to go
shows (quit their job, drop out of school, hitch rides with strangers, borrow
money from parents under false pretenses) but this is the first time i've
known anyone to shave their head for a&e!  just thought y'all would enjoy
reading about another "true" fan of the girls.

heidi in nh

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okay, i have heard it from a lot of different people and i have heard that
it has been confirmed:  the indigo girls at wittenberg university
(springfield, ohio) on 22 april (wednesday).  now i can not guarentee this
100%, so please don't be calling the school begging for info (i promise to
post as i learn..) and please do not e-mail me yet because i don't know
any more than that as of now.  but again, i heard about it all day today
(random people whom i have never met were coming up to me to tell me b/c
they know of my obsession!) from people who would know.

so, maybe indigohio can have a meeting on the 22nd of april, what do y'all
think?  ;-)

:-) karen

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we just saw on vh1 that bob dylan got the best contemporary folk ablum.  the dj said, "if you haven't bought it yet, shame on you."


kim & rhea

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to identify the cage?
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in a message dated 98-02-25 12:28:25 est, you write:

<< yes, and i'm ugly so lets not have any comments on how attractive certain
people are or i might just cry!

maybe we could add nfc (fat) & nuc (ugly) to nigc so us sensitive types can
skip these messages?

andy;-) >>


ok, just my two cents worth... no human being on this entire earth is ugly!!!
everyone is beautiful in his/her own way. ok... you can delete this now.
~alyssa

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could someone please tell me when the girls will be in hanover nh (at
dartmouth college) and where can i get ticket info.?
~alyssa

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hey all,

    hey, i was just wondering when we will know if the girls won the
grammy....god i hope so!!! they deserve it... i could go on forever why they
do, but i won't waste band space.  =)  if anyone hears any news, keep me
posted.

emily

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if you want tapes of austin city limits i would write klru which is the
station in austin which actually produces the show and see what they say :)

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on wed, 25 feb 1998, emily hunt wrote:

>     hey, i was just wondering when we will know if the girls won the
> grammy....god i hope so!!! they deserve it... i could go on forever why they
> do, but i won't waste band space.  =)  if anyone hears any news, keep me
> posted.

   they gave it to dylan for "time out of mind."  although it's best thing
he's done for years and years...well, the saying goes that the best dylan
song is one covered by somebody else.  ("tangled up in blue," baby!!!)
strikes me as a bit political---sots is much more solid instrumentally,
inventive, and well, the vocals are understandable.
   i was watching a pbs special on the grammys last night and the newsweek
reporter was saying how "don't speak" was musically inept and trite, and
how "shame on you" should have been nominated...  ;)  i liked that.

   darius

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date:         wed, 25 feb 1998 19:32:27 -0700
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well, i only like beautiful people with god like bodies. i'm only on this
list to be trendy. man are you people out of it;)
ben

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i have always liked the indigo girls, and someone put me on to the
indians nomads saints album, and i became totally hooked.

i run the choir at the school where i teach, and i decided to use a
bunch of songs in our liturgies.  today we had an ash wednesday liturgy
and we used "hammer and a nail" and "secure yourself."

the students are getting totally hooked on the indigo girls.  so far
we've only done 3 songs (the other was kid fears), but they love them
and walk around singing them.  it's great.

as for me, my faves are world falls (i will use this in a future
liturgy), hammer and a nail (great lyrics), and hand me downs (seriously
catchy baseline and harmonies).

sandra

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date:         wed, 25 feb 1998 19:18:28 -0800
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haloo, i'm just so thrilled about my happy week so far that i wanted to
share. i've just about convinced my mom to go to the folk festival with
me this summer for my hs graduation present. oh happy. we made
reservations at good ol' motel 6 last night so there must still be a few
places to stay (but let me tell you, the rate we're gonna pay is way more
than what is quoted in the aaa book). did anyone besides me notice that
it's a full moon on saturday august 8? it'll be a wild and crazy evening
fer sure. i can't wait.
-sam (who's totally not believin' that someone from her little hometown
vancouver, washington, got to see ig for free)

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hey, i found the tab to back together again.  so all those who are still
looking, let me know if you want it.  i have been sooooo  x-cited about it
ever since i found it!!!!!

j&t

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hey all!

well there *will* be igc in this thing, but first i just want to say: yay shawn
‚olvin!!!!!

okay.  next up...maybe this is painfully obvious, but i haven't yet seen in
mentioned on the list.  the second issue of amy's curve interivew tuesday just
arrived at the local borders this tuesday.  i know someone wanted to know when
they'd be out so they wouldn't have to waste a trip to the store.  well i wasted
about a billion trips, but i live 30 seconds away (not a big loss).  so anyway,
i'm guessing it's everywhere by now for those of you w/out subscriptions.

and finally, about that photo in the kayak.  definately amy.  the blonde hair
looks like a definate case of a seriously sunny (came home!) day and an awful
lot of light reflecting up from the water.  but even with *blue* hair...the
eyebrows would give her away everytime.  not to mention the smile.  so anyway,
that's my take on it....

marivel

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     just to see your face somewhere
     i would sell your sweet sweet soul
     just to touch your crazy black gold hair"

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i am almost positive that curve photo was taken in maine - it's exactly what
she wore when she got in from canoeing at penobscot...

mike r.
yes, it is amy, and the scenery looks like this neck of the woods.

ps - can y'all please (i'm begging the goddess) please send me positive
vibes tomorrow - i have two major job interviews and i've been really ill,
like ambulance on monday night to the er ill, due to the stress my body is
feelin' - just send a positive thought out tomorrow - i, as well as every
other job hunting senior, thanks you in advance!

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hi all,

i'm majorly guilty of skimming the list recently so i don't know if you
guys have already discussed this, but...  here goes:  i went to see sonia
of disappear fear today, and her opener was leslie nuchow (both of them
severely rocked by the way)...  leslie told us a little story, and there
is igc here, i swear!!!!   apparently virginia slims (you know, the
womanly cigarette people) has a record label now called "woman thing" or
something like that...  they're trying to sign random musicians and stuff.
they asked leslie, and offered her lots of publicity and all that jazz,
only when she found out the catch -- that the only way to get this cd
they're putting out is to buy 2 packs of their cigarettes -- she said no
way.  so she and some other folks started something called virginia slam
(ha ha) to go against it.  (call 212-802-7226 for info if you want)...
anyway there was some concert that either happened recently i think, that
they put together for the slam....   now here's the igc:  leslie said she
was amazed at all the attention they got, including a call from the indigo
girls saying that they heard about leslie's slam thing and wanted to play
at the next concert -- which will be in april in new york.  uh, there'll
be a "battle of the bands" on april 6 to find out who the 4-5 openers will
be, so i guess the concert will be sometime after that and it sounds
pretty certain that our girls will be there!

sorry if this is repeat info...  (and if anyone has _more_ info, please
tell me!)

leslie nuchow rocks!

later,
deb the indigeek

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in a message dated 98-02-25 21:21:10 est, you write:

<< we just saw on vh1 that bob dylan got the best contemporary folk ablum.  >>

which just goes to show you that nobody on the planet besides us has got any
kind of idea what constitutes good folk music.

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
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date:         thu, 26 feb 1998 00:05:35 -0800
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surface tension:
love, sex, and politics between lesbian and straight women
meg daly, editor; 1996; $12 pbk

*very good* book with *very good* article:
"the (fe)male gaze', by elizabeth wurtzel (about 16 pages)

this article captures the strong emotions evoked by the
indigo girls music (especially amy's), even in straight
women.  the author gets many things right --- all 16 pages
of it.  consider asking a library to buy this book if you
can't or don't want to buy it yourself.  -r

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date:         thu, 26 feb 1998 05:34:31 -0400
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breaking my sabbatical to trepidly venture forth in search of a ticket or
two to the apr. 10 ani show in albany... anyone out there have an extra/
know someone who does/ can get me one, even though they're supposedly sold
out?  please email me privately and let me know....  there's a very cute
little blue-haired chicky in nyc with her fingers crossed on this one...
thanks y'all (trite, yes),
jill:)

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hello
i just opened up my chicago trib and on page 8 there's a picture of dylan
playing at the grammy's.  the funny thing is that there's also a "prankster"
on stage w/ "soy bomb" written on his chest.  the paper says the words are
"soy bomb"; but i'm wondering...ls this some crazy indigo fan who was
plugging "shame on you"?
i'm really lol!
michele

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has anyone considered that that guy that ran out during bob dylan's
performance might've been making a reference to shame on you?

i wondered that as soon as i saw it.


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we all knew dylan was gonna win, if they bob bashing is gonna start now again
i'm just gonna unsubscribe.. it's not worth wasting my breath.... can we all
respect someones talent, understanding their voice just isn't pleasant to your
ears... while understanding the fact that if the artist just plain was
horrible there is no way he woulda been around this long ? :)  before judging
dylan's whole album as horrendous, try listening to it :)

just preparing myself for the worst, cos i know the posts are gonna start <g>

grace

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hmmmm.... just read my subject line + got an instant mind pic of a group of
lil' ol' ladies in flannel nightgowns... go figure:-)
i *missed* the awards last night... a pressing "family situation" came up...
anyhoo... was wondering how the whole awards thang went. were the
indigo-girls mentioned in the pre-amble to the announcement of the winner (
bob dylan ), for best new folk album? if so, was a small snipit of one of
their songs played? does anyone know if they were there at the ceremonies (
i doubt it, cause of the traveling thang... but, hey, i gotta ask... )
wasn't at all impressed with the wee bit of bob dylan's live performance
that i saw in betwixt dashes in + out of my house, but that means nothing.
my only familiarity with him is through the ig's cover of his tangled up in
blue, and i *love* that song ( despite the *dumb* line about the green
english vest )lol... so, hey... maybe i'll give him a listen one time soon...
peace all, kim
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i guess no one's talkin' on this list cuz we're all really sad about losing.
i know i am.  but i really didn't think we could emerge from dylan's
spotlight.  too bad.

.02
vicki

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as some of you might know, the yale college council actually got their shit
together this year and booked someone big for spring fling. yes, indigo
girls. god forbid my fun open minded school is happy with the fact that we
got at least someone we've all heard of. there've been a slew of articles
and editorials and letters about the "fact" that only girls like ig or
they're not "fun" enough for the spring fling atmosphere. anyway, i thought
i'd post one of the articles in today's yale daily news and see what you
guys think. if you want to see the rest of the articles, i have most of
them at
http://pantheon.yale.edu/~jym2/ig

here's one of today's front pagers:

indigo girls and spring fling: students question the match

                                        by avery johnson

                                       contributing reporter

"whether or not the indigo girls should perform at spring fling has turned
into a battle between the sexes," catherine fiederowicz
'01 said. "girls generally like their music, but all the guys i know call
them a 'chick group.'"

fiederowicz's claim seems to ring true in light of angry outbursts,
predominately by male students, over the yale college council's
pick for the spring fling headliner band.

some argued against ycc's choice because of the music style. many yale
students, regardless of their music taste, questioned
the indigo girls' suitability for spring fling weekend.

"i don't know their music well, but i don't think that the indigo girls are
a big party band," sean burt '99 said. "for a weekend like
spring fling, you want a band with mystique, one that really gets the crowd
going."

betsy cleveland '01 added that "i love the indigo girls -- i listen to
their music all the time and i saw them last year in madison
square garden. but they have more of a small caf้ sort-of feel to them.
they don't put on a great show."

many male dissenters have been vocal about their band preference, helping
to establish the negative feeling about the concert on
campus.

"i don't like the indigo girls at all," said one disappointed yalie, adam
o'byrne '01. "their music is too happy-feeling for my taste."

on the other extreme, many women devotees of the group support ycc's choice
enthusiastically. these die-hard folk fans, whose
fragile ear drums have been barraged by funk and pop spring after spring,
welcome the indigo girls' slower, more melodic style.

"they're such awesome people and cool, amazing musicians," said laura
kiernan '01, who attended both the indigo girls' master's
tea in silliman college and their concert at the palace theater last fall.
"i think their music has universal appeal."

but there are some women who have also complained about the ycc's choice
and some men who have praised it.

"the indigo girls aren't really my style," judy choi '01 said. "i'm more of
an indies or alternative fan."

dave brown '01 countered by saying "i like their music a lot. i'm looking
forward to seeing them in concert."

others expressed concern that the indigo girls' music lacks beat.

"i love their songs, don't get me wrong," mary grendell '01 said. "but you
can't dance to them. we need someone like g love and
the special sauce to shake things up."

the majority of students wavering between o'byrne and kiernan show that,
although spring fling may be a battle of the bands, it
has not evolved into a battle of the sexes.

"not everyone is going to be happy with ycc's choice," dan davis '00 said.
"but its not about gender, it's about taste in music."

return to today's paper

copyright 1997, the yale daily news

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date:         thu, 26 feb 1998 12:54:45 est
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hey everyone,

sorry to waste bandwidth but we have finally gotten our stuff together with
this benefit concert we are planning, and have been mentioning for a while.
if you dont wanna hear about it, go ahead and delete this, but if you do,
please read it cause we need your support.

for our school we have a semester to organize a project that makes us serve as
"agents of change."  so we decided to organize a benefit concert, we asked a
whole bunch of artists if they would play, even ig (we did get a personal
reply which was cool), but the only one who enthusiastically replied yes i
will do it was sonia rutstein, from disappear fear, who is now just going by
sonia.

the proceeds will benefit the sexual minority youth assistance league (smyal).
this is a great organization that does great work, and they have the support
of many people in music, politics etc, (including amy and emily, check your
sots booklets)  anyways.  they always support our school newspaper buying ads
and such, and they just do very good things  around here.

so this is basically the unofficial concert posting.  the show will be at the
black cat in washington dc on thursday april 2, and tickets will be $10-15.
sonia will be headlining, and this other very cool girl will be opening.  we
will also have some pretty cool t-shirts to like the first 50 people in the
door or something like that.  so if you live anywhere close to here, please
please please come, we need your support.  (or if you are just interested in
making a donation, that would be great too)  so if you are interested coming
to this or helping us out with a donation, drop me a line and i will keep you
updated.     when we get everything "officially" worked out, i will let yall
know.

peace
sasha and anya

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date:         thu, 26 feb 1998 10:08:28 +0900
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hey guys.. i don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, but "soy bomb" loosely
translated from spanish means "i'm the bomb." since that's a pretty common
saying i think it is more likely that is what he meant. that is what i
first thought when i saw it.

besides, do normal people (non indigo-heads) usually refer to an album by
its initials? "yeah, the beatles' w album is my favorite..." :) hee hee  i
love it when unscheduled things happen on these oh-so-regulated shows. :) :)

hope everyone's having a good day.. el nino is letting up for the day here
in l.a.!

emily

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about the girls coming to dartmouth college in hanover, nh... are non-college
students allowed in there? and how would i go about finding tickets? i tried
www.ticketmaster but that showed nothing. please help!
~a desperate ig fan in nh.

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i know everyone is dissappointed with ig not winning and that dylan is
woefully underappreciated by some folks here, but look at the overall
picture...

of the five major awards two were won by dylan, two were won by shawn
colvin and the third was paula cole (best new artist)...this are considered
at least by the press to be the five most important awards.  i mean it
could have been hanson and puff daddy and r kelly (not to take away from
them at all) but this was a great year for women and "folk" music at the
grammy's.  don't forget sarah m picked up a couple af awards as well.
  i was very pleasantly surprised by the two awards shawn colvin
received...now she really deserved it...actually she deserved it along time
ago and finally was rewarded!
  and for the record i thought dylan's performance was incredible...i've
really only begun to appreciate him in the last year...he is an incredible
song writer and i thought he sounded better than he has in ages.  i also
loved the bit in his acceptance speach about watching buddy holly perform
and how he was amazed....that image of a future star staring up from the
front row.
sorry i got a little long-winded..i'll shut up now

casey

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hey all

i have specific information on the festival at my school..  please
contact me if you are interested!!!

the 5th annual women's festival of the arts will be held on saturday and
sunday march 28th and 29th.  the festival is a place where women from usc
and the communities surrounding usc join together in a celebration of the
diversity of women's art.

this year our featured artists include:

in la kach--a chicana performance art group (this is still tentative)
it's me margaret -- a local band and our feature film will be from a usc
film student: "get the bow heads" -- a light hearted look at sorority
life.

we are currently looking for women to participate in this event.  it is
open to just about anything.  we also have a gallery of art every year and
in the past installations have included art, photography, and other arts
and crafts (it is really up to you).

we also are looking for people who want to show their films, sing or play
and instrument on saturday night or perform poetry, dance, or any other
kind of dramatic work on sunday.  again, it is up to the artist--anything
goes.

our only criteria is that the primary artist be a woman--in the case of
films that they be written, produced, and/or directed by a woman.

musically, if it is a band, that the primary artist be a woman--male back
up is ok

again, we would love to have women from around usc, la and other
universities join us for this incredible event.


      jeanette
       reposa@scf.usc.edu

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date:         thu, 26 feb 1998 13:35:48 -0500
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it's been so long since i've posted, i don't even think i remember how. :)
i've got no new news (whoah...) or anything like that, but uhhh...just
wanted to share a funny story. :)
for the past week i've been bustin' my hump on my native american themes
midterm...a big assed paper on lost identity...i finished the 10 paged
frigger yesterday afternoon and decided to celebrate by sharin' a little
indigo girls love with my floor...it was cool, man.  suddenly, the lovely
tunes are filling the air (thanks to me!)...untiiiiillll....i hear puff
freakin' daddy come bombing out of the room two doors down, covering our
honeys.  ummm...what's wrong with that picture?! i just thought that was
funny, cuz "da puff" is just the biggest loser ever and somebody  felt
that he was better than our girls. somebody's confused, and it sho as hell
ain't me! :)
anyhoo...this morning i was listening to "least compilated" and it just
blew me away, cuz for the first time i actually listened to emily's voice
on "it won't take long."  good lord! i was writhing. :) i think that i
just learned how to really appreciate that woman.
enough ramblin...just wanted to touch base with my indigo
friends. :)

-bethany :)
oh yeah! i gotsa joke that i wanna share :)  it's cute...(heard it in my
human sexuality class yesterday....and yeah, i'm not man hater or
anything, so dudes! don't get pissed.)
q: why do doctors spank newborn babies?!
a: so they can knock the weenies off of the smart ones!
i know, it's mean, but hey...ya' laughed, right?!
one more thing...i looked in front of me yesterdy and i swear, gerard
mchugh is in my class. :) hee hee!

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date:         thu, 26 feb 1998 12:34:57 -0700
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on thu, 26 feb 1998, rosemary walling wrote:
> surface tension:
> love, sex, and politics between lesbian and straight women
> meg daly, editor; 1996; $12 pbk
> *very good* book with *very good* article:
> "the (fe)male gaze', by elizabeth wurtzel (about 16 pages)
___________________________________

i've been wanting to talk about this essay here ever since java mentioned
it back in december.  she didn't like it, by the way.
i'm intrigued by wurtzel's brief discussion of r&j.  she writes:

        "...onstage, amy can sing a song in a manner that is so crazed and
        out there that you can choose either to accept it as a thick, lush
        meadow or to let yourself be frightened by it, as if it were a
        menacing prickly cactus.  many people think that amy positively
        butchers dire straits' 'romeo and juliet,' which was already one
        of the most heartbreaking love songs ever recorded, even given
        mark knopfler's snarly voice and ambient guitar lines.  but when
        amy does it, she abandons all attempts at reason and temperance
        that keep the dire straits version from becoming too sepulchral,
        too funereal, too dire.  when amy sings 'romeo and juliet,' she
        takes the moments that knopfler invests with the most irony in
        his delivery and overwhelms them with utter, incurable sorrow.
        i admire her for feeling so free to be so overwrought, especially
        since it comes simultaneously in a package that is very harsh and
        cool."

i have been to three concerts since the resurrection of r&j, and at all of
them i have been struck by the crowd participation.  i don't want to argue
here about whether you think r&j is a sing-along song.  we've been through
that and like everything else on this list, some people think so and some
don't.  regardless of whether it *should* be a sing-along, people *do*
sing and they sing loud!  especially at the denver concert, where amy
started chuckling after the first line because the crowd was so loud.  it
is obviously a meaningful song for break-ups and cheatin' hearts and the
like.  but i agree with wurtzel's comments above.  i think there is
something very feminist about amy brazenly singing this song with so much
strength in her voice and emotion on her face.  and rop was way pre-ellen
et al., so to me it's even more meaningful.

so to all of the r&j screamers out there, what is it about this song that
makes us want to yell it and pump our fists?

wurtzel kind of loses track when she goes off into how she can't help but
want to fix amy up with a hot motorcycle-riding boyfriend, but you have to
give her credit for being honest about her conditioned heterosexism.

i was disappointed in the rest of _surface tension_ for being mostly
stories rather than non-fiction essays, but there are a few good ones.

-garian

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date:         thu, 26 feb 1998 12:58:40 -0700
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i posted this once, but never saw it, so i'm sorry if anyone
has gotten this for the second time.

1.  does anyone have access to good mastering equipment
and would like to take a crack at an ig bootleg that i recorded
last summer?  i had the volume up too high and it is distorted
and noisy.  feel free to tell me that it can't be cleaned up as
well, i'm not very knowledgeable about these things.

2.  anyone have information about how to set up web crawlers
or web information finders?

3.  don't forget about the project amy birthday stuff at
http://members.tripod.com/~indigoempire/projamy.html
i need more comments, and we really need to start voting soon!

4.  i set up an activism web page,  at
http://members.tripod.com/~wwactivism/index.html
which so far has links to some chiapas and tibet stuff.
feel free to comment, and please read through the new chiapas
articles, some of which came from michelle malone who has
personally taken up a campaign to make sure i know what an
idiot i am for going over there next month!  she's a sweetie.  : )
anyhow, i'll keep the page updated as more articles come in,
and if anyone has contributions or ideas, definitely let me know.

elizabeth from denver
enitz@evolving.com

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date:         thu, 26 feb 1998 14:00:08 +0000
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i'm sorry.  i missed why soy-bomb makes everyone think of "shame on you".  do
we get different lyrics on our cd's in canada than the rest of the world?
e

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> i guess no one's talkin' on this list cuz we're all really sad about losing.
> i know i am.  but i really didn't think we could emerge from dylan's
> spotlight.  too bad.

with all due respect to those feeling sad, "we" didnt "lose"
anything.  the grammy's arent about us, the fans.  too ofetn,
they dont really even seem to be about the music but about
the marketing of the music.  there are tons of fine fine folk
music recordings which didnt make it to the grammy nomination
level but werejust as worthy.  ifyuo want to see some
recommendations vist

http://www.folkmusic.org/folkvote97/results.html

where a poll was taken for favorite folk recordings of 1997
(and yes ig are in there).  i'm totaly psyched that shawn colvin won
two major awards..she has worked long and hard, and a better thing
couldnt happen to a nicer, more down to earth person. she's worked
many many eyars and is now getting some serious recognition for
it.  and i believe she has been in the contemporary folk category in
the past, i think for steady on (can anyone help me with that?)

we didnt lose....no one lost really.  we all win because we have
the music in the first place.

jmho of course.

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hello, all.
      okay, unfortunately, michelle has already sold the guild.  it's true.
thank you all for your interest and bids.  fortunately, she is selling a
martin.  it's a 1995 d-18 golden era series, one of only 300 made that has a
natural top.  it was used on "beneath the devil moon" a lot.  in fact, she'll
be playing it tonight at eddie's attic!  it has a case and a pick-up.  it's in
vintage condition and lists for over $2000.  so, again, taking offers.
bidding starts at $2000.  thanks, sarah

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on thu, 26 feb 1998, emily d. mark wrote:

> hey guys.. i don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, but "soy bomb" loosely
> translated from spanish means "i'm the bomb." since that's a pretty common
> saying i think it is more likely that is what he meant. that is what i
> first thought when i saw it.

but if he was going through the trouble of trying to be *ethnic* and put
the chest message in spanish, why wouldn't he have translated "bomb".  now
i have quite a bit of experience with people beginning level spanish
students and they love to just put an "o" or "a" at the end of an english
word and call it spanish.  in this particular case you could do that
though (bomb=bomba) and it's a fairly obvious word that most people would
know.  and supposing he did know spanish he'd have used the article too.
anyway, not important.  the point is i'm thinkin' no spanish here.  i like
the shame on you idea though. perhaps a statement about the sorry state of
tofu in our country...

marivel

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i've tried that before..."

               --brenda weiler

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hello everyone,

well, i'd have to say that last night's concert was good, but i
probably wouldn't rate it as great.  i don't have time for a full
review now and i haven't written down the set list yet, but i'll
try to get one done today or tomorrow (setlist and full review,
that is).

briefly: we had second row tickets, and there were people at least
five deep between us and the stage.  couldn't see a thing while
sitting!  pretty disappointing, after our sublimely perfect second
row experience on sunday night.

they opened with "mystery".  they opened with "mystery".  they
opened with "mystery"!

only two songs in the encore (not three), which i thought was a
little strange.

for some reason the set was set up at least six feet back from the
edge of the stage, which was really, really weird.

not too much banter, but this was funny:
woman in crowd: new jersey!
emily: new jersey?
amy: you never can get away from new jersey, can you?

the tape turned out fairly well, although a bit distorted in the
louder spots.  but not bad considering that i was moving up and
down our row of seats all night.  also there's some talking -
you can hear penelope and me goofing around at the start (well,
pen goofing around and me telling her to go away :), and you can
also hear jace saying, "those two girls over there look like
monkeys!" as well... teehee.  they did, actually. :)

it's funny the things that make you laugh after five hours'
sleep, isn't it?  (at least i didn't get lost on the way home. :)

yay,
sherlyn, who promises a more coherent review very very soon but
has to go to work now...

ps - see you tonight, everyone!  6pm, outside hmv in the pitt
street mall.
pps - ohh... shelley, karen, sorry i didn't say goodbye.  i
was having too much fun catching up with someone i hadn't seen
since the last time ig were in oz.  sorry sorry sorry...
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hi all,

someone posted some michelle malone dates yesterday or so -- with question
marks next to some of them.  just wanted any philadelphia mm fans to know
that apparently she's cancelled the 3/7 tin angel date, which i believe
was one of the question-marked dates on your list.  i asked yesterday
at tin angel about ticket availability and they told me the bad news...


deb the indigeek

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hi y'all,

okay, i have a problem.  i am going home for spring break tomorrow and my
local pbs station is not airing austin city limits.  neither is the pbs
station around here (if they were, my friend could tape it for me).

so would anyone be willing to make me a copy?  someone out there has to
have one of those double headed vcr's.  i'd be happy to send you a blank
tape and a padded envelope and return postage.  and i'd love you for life!

:-) karen

ps- i will have access to my e-mail over break, so it doesn't matter if
you e-mail me here or at my aol account...

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hey.

i don't know if this has been addressed before...
but does anyone know what the story is behind the rites of passage
cover?

also, i am gonna buy some cd's for a friend and i was wondering what
album you all would recommend as far as ani d.   (i already got her
hooked on ig)...

thanks!

jackie

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hey folks,

not really igc, but there's an interesting article on jimmy descant
(used to be the girls' guitar tech) at
http://www.netwwworks.com/98etc/3mar/vision/index.htm.
apparently now he's an artist making sculptures out of old vacuum
cleaners...

also, there's a new collectibles site on the web at
http://www.wynnco.com... it looks like a company that specialises
in collectibles, i'm not sure.  just fyi...

speaking of which, rock fetish (http://www.rockfetish.com)
apparently now have two old ig shirts for sale.  one is an nis
shirt (got mine yesterday), the other i think is the rop shirt
with the huge picture of a&e on the front, i'm not sure.  i
can get more details if you want them, just let me know.

cheers,
sherlyn
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this will, this will happen..."                - peter mulvey

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i was wondering if anyone knows the name of the airport in ok, city, ok and
where on the web you can purchase a plan ticket? missy

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i have no idea how real this is, but it exists:

http://www.hiphopmusic.com/soybomb.html

hugh barroll

p.s.  it readds like a pointless prank to me.

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>  i was very pleasantly surprised by the two awards shawn colvin
>received...now she really deserved it...actually she deserved it along
time
>ago and finally was rewarded!
>
i was just saying that to the fumblers...but dylan is a legend!
he's a walking talking legend and i would much rather listen to the
indigos than him, but he deserved to finally win a grammy since this
*was* his first!

lamia


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mike wrote:
>i am almost positive that curve photo was taken in maine - it's exactly what
>she wore when she got in from canoeing at penobscot...

1.) amy mentioned on stage here in seattle (at the pier) that she had been
kayaking
so it could be puget sound (i still haven't seen it)

2.) from what i have seen, they don't pack many different outfits when they
tour -
and its likely we have seen 90% of amy's wardrobe anyway;)


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we're (christy and me--or i) just back from the bitchin' cool michelle malone
show at eddie's! oh my! she's so amazing!!

she sang a bunch of stuff from devil moon and this *too-funny*
song about meeting tanya tucker in a hotel bar. i've said
it before and dammit, i'll say it again ... she *is* every woman!
it's just amazing how much sound comes out of that woman.
she was wailin', she was jammin', she was rockin'. she's
incredible ... she *is* moanin' malone!!!! :)

she was just hanging out before and after the show, talking
to whoever wanted to meet her and she was so cool about
signing stuff and taking pictures with people

she mentioned seeing kristen hall recently and that she was doing
really well and writing songs with lots of neat people.
apparently kristen isn't coming back to atlanta any time soon.

i think we even spotted michael lorant with a freshly shaved
head! awww! :)

(christy here) i spent my last moanin' malone concert looking for amy, so
this one was much more enjoyable. i must say that the girl is amazing. she
adds new meaning to "woman". :) if you've gotten this far, thanks! cathy
and i are at a loss for words--if that tells you anything about the
concert. i couldn't walk at the end and cathy was crying (cause mm closed
with counting stars). if you do not own one of her cds, buy one. if you
haven't been to see her, go now. sit close and take in the voice..she just
fills up the room.

we heard her talking to some chick about how she was asked to be in the
michigan women's fest and how she might be touring europe opening for jars
of clay. how exciting!

thanks so much for listening to our obsessive rambly post concerning nigc!
(flame away.) :)

                                                christy and cathy :)


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i have some melissa etheridge blockbuster music cassette promos available. .
it has 3 live tracks:
1 bring me some water
2 ain't it heavy
3 come to my window
i just want what i paid ($8 plus shipping)
i will consider indigo trades (especially for a boot of ig doing blister in
the sun)

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hey guys!.... i am looking for some ani d. advice.  i just purchased little
plastic castles, my first of her cd's, and really liked her sound.  my
favorite songs were little plastic castle, fuel, and as is... which of her
previous cd's sounds most like these types of songs?????
thanks to anyone who can help... please email me privately!
thanks,
lesliem

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okay, so some of you have asked me about my sig. line about the monkey show
tomorrow night.  so here's the scoop.

monkey's a way cool san jose based traditional ska band (you know, nine guys
in suits and ties)--they were nominated for a wammie, and are up for a
california music award...but more important than that, they have some great
songs, and they're a lot of fun...and my brother kicks ass as their sax
player.

their cd release party is tomorrow night, february 27th, at the cactus club in
san jose (on s. 1st st., 2 blocks south of san carlos).  doors are at 8--i
think the cover is either $6 or $8, more if you're between 16 and 20.
i.b.o.p.a. (sexually ambidextrous lounge/ska/punk/polka), will open, along
with some other and i've never heard of.  if you're interested and need more
info, you can e-mail me.

peace,
shelley
(who should be packing instead of cyber-nating)

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there is a radio station here in ohio that is giving away ani defranco
tickets to win.
just thought ya'll would like to know in case you wanted to try and win
them.

thanx

j&t

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don't mean to flame, but i saw earlier that a ig target sampler cd was
being offered for $25.00   is this the same target sampler that sold for
$5.99 just a few months ago (i'm assuming they're all sold out now)?
that just hit me kind of funny...

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hey all.
i'm getting a new pc & might have to unsub this acct.
for a week or 2...plus i'm going out of town for a few days.
but.....if anyone gets info on new tour dates
for ig, ani, or lilith......please email me at work....
thanks....
jami

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hey folks,

a bunch of people have mailed me asking about the shirts, so
here goes...

nope, apparently the shirts aren't listed on the rock fetish
site (http://www.rockfetish.com).  sorry about that!  i didn't
have time to check this morning.

i have the catalogue here.  the shirts are "closeout" items and
are listed at us$10.50 each, brand new.  there are no cat#s
listed but the descriptions are:

indigo girls    multi on blk    nomads indians & saints
indigo girls    multi on blk    rites of pass... 92-93 portrait

the n*i*s shirt (which i happen to have here, i'll be wearing
it tonight) has a blue folk art logo saying "nomads indians
saints" on the front, and more folk art on the back - the
angel with three arrows, the man with a stone strapped on his
back, and one of the other ones from the n*i*s booklet/songbook.
pretty cool.

i'm not sure which shirt the rop shirt is, but it sounds like
the black one with the big picture of a&e on the front (the
same or similar to the rop cover), and the folk-arty looking
design that says "rites of passage tour 1992-1993" on the
back.  but i could be wrong...

i *know* you can order these shirts through the online order
form on the rock fetish page - that's how i got mine.  you'll
probably need to call/email them to find out the cat numbers
first though...

hm.

:)
sherlyn
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date:         fri, 27 feb 1998 13:32:01 +0800
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hey,
there is an article in todays the west australian - in the 'today' liftout
page 9. it's called 'folk sisters in lore'...

will post the article later.

joadster

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i just heard the mtv news guy talking about what was up with the
soy bomb guy ... how ironic that it was while i was reading everyone's
e-mails about sb himself!

so this is the word mtv is giving on the subject: he's a "self-described
performance artist" who was making "some sort of statement about life
and art" (who knows *what* he was trying to say!!) and sees this as the
beginning of his "path toward superstardom."

well, with as much talk as he's getting on the news and the radio et al ...
maybe this *is* his big break. stranger things have happened!

nite all!
cathy -- still *beaming* from the michelle show tonight! :)
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hey all... just wanted to post + once again thank, from the bottom of my
breaking heart, all those who posted me with advice on what to do for my
suicidal friend. who could know i would have to put it into practice for my
15 year old son this evening... thank god i had the research + info already
on hand + fresh in my mind because of those who took time to post me.
kim...

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hi :)

just rang bocs and they told me that the support band for the perth gig is
honey, a 3-piece band. that's all they knew.  anyone heard of them?

david

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david wrote:

>just rang bocs and they told me that the support band for the perth gig is
>honey, a 3-piece band. that's all they knew.  anyone heard of them?

never heard of them. what kind of a name for a band is that anyway?? :)

blimey!!

joad

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hey everyone...is there anyone else from northern ca on this list who
has gotten tix for the b&j newport folk fest in august?  i am having a
very difficult time getting them.  no ticketmaster locally & they're not
selling the tix online.  i know i could send mail to the address on the
website, but i'm afraid that might take too long.  so, short of waiting
on hold long distance for a tm rep in san diego or back east, is there
an easier way to get tix?

also, i'm reading about list meets in other areas...is there a group in
the sf bay area that meets up?

cheers & smiles,

sheri

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i promise this will be the last i say anything about this.

the general consensus among my friends is that soy bomb is one
of these things (in order of believability):

#1 - the name of his own local band.  he was just trying to get some
     grammy recognition.
#2 - soy meaning shame on you and bomb meaning ???
#3 - a protest of some kind against bob dylan or relating to
     bob dylan (perhaps an inside meaning though).
#4 - a totally off the wall thing unrelating to any agenda ... just
     a stunt pulled for the sake of pulling a stunt.

i haven't heard anything about the real meaning (unless there's something
further in the digest i haven't read yet).

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subject:      nigc: danielle howle "i held a satchel"

hi everybody!

i was wondering whether anyone would be kind enough to mail me the
lyrics to danielle's song "i held the satchel"? or maybe just give me
a url to go to (i don't have the time right now to do a web search on
it:-().

thanks in advance!

have a great weekend!

peace and
take care,
kathrin

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nomads indians saints is listed as deleted over here.  what's the story?  do i
have to do mail order for the states.  can someone recomend a source.

cheers, andy.

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okay people...
i need help! i usually rely on "ticketmaster online" to get ticketmaster
phone #'s and all o' that junk for shows and uhhh...i'm having a tough
time these days....
i'm not finding anything (in ticketmaster online) under "indigo girls"
*or* "lilith fair."  where are you all getting your lilith fair info?!?!
i'm just trying to make sure that i don't miss any important dates (like
uhhh...the wittenberg show... :)

thanks!
any info. would be appreciated :)
-bethany :)

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just wanted to say thanks to all who helped me with my efforts in search of a
sutiable ani cd...  i knew you guys were the ones to come to!
thanks again,
leslie m

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subject:      soy bomb...don't hurt me!

well, i came upon the real meaning of this, if you can call it that! :)
so no need to flame...i'm sure somebody cares!  anyhoo, this is parts of
an article about the incident form the baltimore sun. as it turns out the
soy bomb dude is from maryland.  oh boy.  he was hired to be an extra in
order to "provide dylan with a good vibe."  anyway, i guess he certainly
had *some* kind if vibe...

ok, here is his explanation (his name being michael portnoy)...reprinted
from the bmore sun, without permission.  all typos are mine!

"now before the big show, portnoy gets this fuzzy, funky idea.  he
huddles with his artist buddies to create 'an expression that is
passionate and subversive.'  he first plans to write 'i'm famous' on his
chest.  too simplistic.  he starts playing with the word 'soy'.  portnoy
loves soy.  'maybe i can now be a say spokesperson.'

soy is such a rich source of nutrition.  and a bomb is destructive.  'and
art for me is a combination of this dense, nutritional life, and this
explosive destructive force.'"

ok, so there you have it...if anybody wants more info from the article
(it was quite long actually) then you can email me privately.  as for my
thoughts, i like to think it was ig.  that seems a bit odd, but each to
his own.  it's kinda funny.

love,
carolyn
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in a message dated 98-02-26 22:07:26 est, you write:

<< but if he was going through the trouble of trying to be *ethnic* and put
the chest message in spanish, why wouldn't he have translated "bomb".  now
i have quite a bit of experience with people beginning level spanish
students and they love to just put an "o" or "a" at the end of an english
word and call it spanish.  in this particular case you could do that
though (bomb=bomba) and it's a fairly obvious word that most people would
know.  and supposing he did know spanish he'd have used the article too.
anyway, not important.  the point is i'm thinkin' no spanish here.  i like
the shame on you idea though. perhaps a statement about the sorry state of
tofu in our country...

marivel >>

umm... no offense or anything, but i'm in spanish 3 and in my class, we speak
"espanglish" (or so my teacher says) meaning we combine engliah and spanish
words together. "soy bomb" sounds like something we say. like, meaning "i am
the bomb". that's what i think it means and not shame on you. no offense or
anything, but not everything in this world revolves around the indigo girls. i
don't mean to be dissing them or anything because i love them to death, but
that's just the way it is. besides, even if it did mean shame on you i'm sure
it would look something like this: "s.o.y." so can we please drop the subject
and say it's "espanglish". and please don't send me any, like, viruses or
anything because i said this. just stating my piece of mind.

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does anyone (deb?  mel?) have any info about the apr. 26 show at dickinson
college (carlisle, pa), such as onsale date, general admission or reserved
seating, whether students get first dibs or not, price....
also, if there are any dickensonians (?!?) on this list, email me so we
can figure it out...
thankee...
jill


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here's the latest from daemon records


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hey friends!

sorry you haven't heard from us in awhile but we had some trouble
with our e-mail list. all is well now...

***sxsw in austin***

daemon is doing a showcase in austin so all you fans out there come
give us your support. the music starts around 9:00 at west side
alley on march 19th. the line-up so far will be belloluna, terri
binion, danielle howle and the tantrums and the rock*a*teens.
arrive early as the people attending the conference get in first.

oh, for those of you not in the area we are working on a live
broadcast. we'll keep you posted!

***e. cooper seay***

the latest from cooper's label on the release of fin de siecle is
the beginning of march. they have had a few delays that couldn't be
helped but it is on the way. for those of you who have ordered
snail mail, we have your orders and will ship as soon as it get
here. e-mailers might have to reorder though we will let you know.

***nea nashville showcase***

last friday daemon had a great showcase in nashville. five hours of
music! reversing hour, big fish ensemble, terri binion, belloluna,
and danielle howle and the tantrums all rocked the club until
2:00 am. we had a great turn out and want to thank the nashville
fans and others who drove from afar to give us their support.

***new mongrels***

it's here!  the new mongrels second release entitled big cup of
empty has just arrived in our office. we will be adding it to our
web any day but can't ship until the street date. march 17th. we
will take advanced orders though don't submit them until it is
listed on the order form. it is in limited release in record stores
so we are counting on all of you for the support on this one.

***big fish ensemble***

big fish is about to release a new cd entitled the state bird of
big fish ensemble. talked with michael at the nea show and we will
be adding this to the web soon.

***orders***

we've restructured our web ordering process to get your orders out
a bit faster. our sales grew a little quicker than we expected and
we had to do some adjusting. thanks for your patience and support.


support your local music!
the staff at daemon

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hello all...

for those of you who have been here long enough to remember the early
indicated tapes, you might also remember me, phil norman.

in any case, i'm releasing my first cd on encrypted records in early
april and i wanted to let y'all who might be interested know about it.

i'm not on the list any longer, so please don't reply to the list to
create even more inane traffic than this message...  but please e-mail me
if you are interested in getting a copy of the disc.

thanks...

phil norman

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sorry for the nigc chaps - hit that delete key now if you're nowhere near
brighton, uk.  (and come on you londoners - we're only 50mins away by train...)

thought some of you uk listees may be interested in two very fine musical
events i'm promoting for taking liberties festival 1998, a week long
celebration of womens achievement in the arts:
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friday march 6th:  "sirens"
an evening of dangerously good female artists who'll capture you with the
power of their songs - it's no myth!

featuring donna & kbb, with their mediterranean soul mix of  "soaring vocals
and exhilarating rhythms" (the guardian), martha & eve's music will free the
heart and move the spirit; lucy ray, an accomplished singer-songwriter, "her
songs transcend contemporary acoustic styles."  (country music
international); nicky mitchell, a captivating performer whether performing
blues and jazz with great aplomb, or pounding out bittersweet originals;
troika, brighton based global a capella trio, bringing you songs of protest,
passion and celebration in a multitude of languages; the far out back band,
local goodtime girls with up-tempo pop tunes delivered with their own
inimitable panache and humour.

friday march 6th, 8pm.  sallis benney theatre, university of brighton, grand
parade, brighton.  tickets: ฃ6/ฃ5 from the dome box office, new road,
brighton:  01273 709709, or on the door. bar available.  a lone coyote
production.
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tuesday march 3rd: a speakeasy special
brighton's premier live acoustic music night gets girlpower!

featuring reckless, local favourites with their own brand of indie-pop;
judith silver, london singer-songwriter with "considered and emotive songs
of love, peace, heart and soul delivered with delicacy, authority, grace and
style" (time out); k b meadows, expertly crafted songs with lyrics that
switch from sweet to spiky; kaboodle, speakeasy's promoter seffy & chums
with a mellow & melodic set, and more surprise guests.

tuesday march 3rd, 8.30pm 'til late, ฃ3.50/ฃ3 on the door.  at the cybar,
9-12 middle street, brighton.  call 01273 676360 for details.   a lone
coyote production.

check out the new speakeasy website: www.speakeasy.home.ml.org
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hey folks,

last night's second sydney concert was most excellent.  i won't
review it right now, since i still haven't reviewed the other
night's concert yet.  i'll try to do both later on today though...

anyway, about this soy bomb thing.  enough, i think...
could y'all take it to private email?  thanks.

:)
sherlyn
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i am watching the view.  they have been spotlighting all of the hosts
hometowns and doing a family segment on them all week.  at the beginning of
star jones segment, they played a small snippet of 'hey kind friend'.  it
lasted maybe 5 seconds but it was still cool. you don't hear the girls voices,
just part of the instrumental.  made my day an ig day!! (i take what i can)

rose

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got this on harbinger (paula cole list)~~~~i'm not too sure if this means
you can hear it over the web or what, but i suppose it's worth a try,
especially if you're nowhere near atlanta (like me:)  it's a little late
for the friday one, but there's still sunday.


lori ann


> hey all,
>
> fyi, thought you might be interested...
>
> indigo girls - the folk rock musicians perform an acoustic session live
> from the studios of 99x in atlanta.
>     fri. feb. 27 - 12:00 pm
>     sun. mar. 1 - 7:30 pm
>
> http://www.audionet.com/music/shows/livex/

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hey y'all. if you any of you caught this today and didn't hear the original
broadcast last may, i just wanted to tell you that 99x cut all the cool
spoken parts between the songs that added a bit of indigo humor to the
concert. i must say that it is one hell of an amazing feeling popping out a
tape and randomly hearing "get out the map" on the radio during your lunch
break! take care y'all.
                                                christy :)

at 12:44 pm 2/27/98 -1000, you wrote:
>got this on harbinger (paula cole list)~~~~i'm not too sure if this means
>you can hear it over the web or what, but i suppose it's worth a try,
>especially if you're nowhere near atlanta (like me:)  it's a little late
>for the friday one, but there's still sunday.
>
>
>lori ann
>
>
>> hey all,
>>
>> fyi, thought you might be interested...
>>
>> indigo girls - the folk rock musicians perform an acoustic session live
>> from the studios of 99x in atlanta.
>>     fri. feb. 27 - 12:00 pm
>>     sun. mar. 1 - 7:30 pm
>>
>> http://www.audionet.com/music/shows/livex/
>
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just a little bit of added info re: ig on 99x via audionet on sun mar 1.

the time:

8:30 pm est
7:30 pm cst
... etc


> hey all,
>
> fyi, thought you might be interested...
>
> indigo girls - the folk rock musicians perform an acoustic session
> live from the studios of 99x in atlanta.
>     fri. feb. 27 - 12:00 pm
>     sun. mar. 1 - 7:30 pm
>
> http://www.audionet.com/music/shows/livex/

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hey everyone-

i have minor info on the dickinson concert in april.
i called and got some details, but not many.
drop me a mail if you care, and if you want to hold out, i will post to
the list as soon as i find out more.

peace-
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thought i would pass this daemon news along...
btw, the showcase in nashville was one big hootenany!!!  i was totally
blown away by big fish ensemble.  everyone who hasn't already must go
out and buy all of their music! :-d  they are probably one of the most
talented, rockin' and fun groups i have ever seen.  michael lorant takes
what is a very limited drum set-up (snare, one tom-tom, bass drum and ride
cymbol) and makes it sound like he's pounding away on a full kit.  it
is a treat just to watch him....

peace,

joan (who is going to see danielle howle open up for whiskeytown
tonight) :-d

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hey friends!

sorry you haven't heard from us in awhile but we had some trouble with
our e-mail list.  all is well now...

***sxsw in austin***

daemon is doing a showcase in austin so all you fans out there come
give us your support.  the music starts around 9:00 at west side alley
on march 19th.   the line-up so far will be belloluna, terri binion,
danielle howle and the tantrums and the rock*a*teens.  arrive
early as the people attending the conference get in first.

oh, for those of you not in the area we are working on a live broadcast.
we'll keep you posted!

***e. cooper seay***

the latest from cooper's label on the release of fin de siecle is the
beginning of march.  they have had a few delays that couldn't be
helped but it is on the way.  for those of you who have ordered
snail mail,  we have your orders and will ship as soon as it get here.
e-mailers might have to reorder though we will let you know.

***nea nashville showcase***

last friday daemon had a great showcase in nashville.  five hours of
music!  reversing hour, big fish ensemble, terri binion, belloluna,
and danielle howle and the tantrums all rocked the club until
2:00 am.  we had a great turn out and want to thank the nashville
fans and others who drove from afar to give us their support.

***new mongrels***

it's here!  the new mongrels second release entitled big cup of empty
has just arrived in our office.  we will be adding it to our web any day
but can't ship until the street date.  march 17th.  we will take advanced
orders  though don't submit them until it is listed on the order form.
it is in limited release in record stores so we are counting on all of
you for the support on this one.

***big fish ensemble***

big fish is about to release a new cd entitled the state bird of big fish
ensemble.  talked with michael at the nea show and we will be adding
this to the web soon.

***orders***

we've restructured our web ordering process to get your orders out
a bit faster.  our sales grew a little quicker than we expected and we
had to do some adjusting.   thanks for your patience and support.


support your local music!
the staff at daemon


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subject:      nigc:  ani difranco

i know there are a lot of ani fans on this list, so i just wanted to let
all of you know that ani is on the cover of diva (feb/march issue).  the
pictures are wonderful and the magazine comes with a cd, too.  it has 6
ani songs...2 previously unreleased live versions.

-kendra :)


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just had to share my random ig moment from work today with ya'll --
the only group of people who could possibly appreciate its glee!

i work for a magazine publishing company that produces trade magazines
for all kinds of industries (my books are for fire chiefs, garbage guys,
security directors and local government folk ... altogther too exciting, lemme
just tell ya!) and one of the books we publish is called "lighting dimensions --
the magazine for the lighting professional."

so i wandered downstairs to kill time with my friend lynn and she shows
me this month's cover of ld with *sarah mclachlan* on the cover!
the cover story was about the set lighting and such for the lilith fair!!
so i'm reading along and it's giving the background of the lf, the kind of
stuff they were saying the vh1 special about it being an all-women production
and who "lilith" was and how the whole tour came about.

and i flip the page and there's a picture of amy and emily during "get
out the map" -- amy's  playing her mandolin and em's got her banjo!! :)
i was sooooo excited! i was flippin' out right there in the middle of the
art department. :)

there are also pictures of jewel, meredith brooks (who is absolutely gorgeous,
by the way, imho!) shawn colvin and, of course, lots of pictures of sarah.
but there are also these really wide shots of the set and little teeny
sarah on the
stage, because, of course, the magazine is about *lighting*!!! so everyone
is lit really well in their photos! ha!

i was reading along and all of a sudden i had *no idea* what i was reading!
lemme quote for ya:
"what's really interesting is that at really low densities the studio
colors almost
have a sharp edge to the beam. it almost looks like a vlc2, i like that. i
definitely
wanted the vlc6s because they're so fast and light; the same with the vlc5s."
whatever *that* means!

anyway, there was a cool thing about the backdrop used on the tour -- not that
i actually got to see it myself, but i don't *even* wanna talk about it!:
"the drape's design is a series of celestial maps and the signs of the zodiac,
and how they relate to the different chakras in the female body. painted with
uv-sensitive paints, the same drape changes into a night sky behind the
musicians
who performed at night. 'it's a great gag.'"
sounds pretty darn cool to me!

anyway, i shall stop my rambling now. thanks for listening!
cathy :)

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hi all,

since everyone's talking about this and i happen to be one-who-formerly-
lived-in-providence (hmm, that sounded wierd...), i thought i'd throw the
idea out:  for those of you who are going to newport from far away and are
worried about all the sold-out hotels, try looking in providence (or even
somewhere in between...)   providence is only about a 45-minute drive from
newport, and since the festival starts at 11am, it's easy to do even if
you want to get there super-early for good seats.  there _does_ tend to be
a little traffic going in to newport on those days, but again, if you're
early, it's not half as bad as you'd expect.  (i've never been late, but
i'm assuming it gets worse...)

hope the suggestion helps some of you!

deb

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how did blue food get its name?


-erica

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hey folks,

this is from thursday's (feb 26) daily telegraph mirror,
one of the daily papers here in sydney.  there's a picture
with the article which looks like it was taken at the
rocks in sydney - a&e leaning up against a sandstone wall.

cheers,
sherlyn


southern girls
by annabel mcgilvray

"are they the indigo girls?" asked the 20-something waitress,
craning her neck to see from behind the kings cross sandwich
counter.

nodding towards the blonde and brunette seated together in the
cafe, she enthused that it was the indigo girls who had
inspired her to start playing the guitar.

the folk-rock duo from america's deep south find their
following here in australia hard to believe.

"is this reality?" asked emily saliers, the blonde half of the
group.

amy ray, the one with the gravelly voice, looked similarly
incredulous.

in sydney to promote their latest album shaming of the sun, the
girls cited joni mitchell as the performer who most influenced
them to begin playing guitar together while still at school in
atlanta, georgia, almost 20 years ago.

joni's still there in their music, but these days saliers said
she's listening to aerosmith, led zeppelin and rage against the
machine.

ray said her tastes lay more in the clash and murder ballads
sung by little old ladies from the appalachian mountains.

these contrasting styles have led to an unusual creative
arrangement, with each writing and arranging her songs alone but
collaborating in production to turn out albums split between
ray's harder, simple arrangements and saliers' pop.

the mix has won them a loyal fan base not only in australia and
the us but around the world.

differing styles perhaps, but the indigo girls' music is united
in its combination of deeply personal songs about love and loss
and wildly political pieces, rallying support for issues ranging
frm women's rights to the environment and america's illegal
immigrants.

ray said there was no intention to preach and that the political
bent of much of their music was derived from their own
passionately held beliefs which people can take or leave.

"we feel that as individuals and part of the human family it's
our joyful responsibility to take part in what's going on," she
said.

"it's kind of like finding a line between just playing the music
but also offering opportunities for people to check out material
if they want to."

saliers said she got fired up for more selfish reasons.

"i get sick of writing songs about myself so i make a conscious
effort to write from a world view rather than from a self view."

* the indigo girls play the state theatre tonight and tomorrow
night.

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can someone find info out on this mag, i've heard it's from the uk and i'd
find it at borders - but my local (bangor, me) doesn't stock it - the title
is diva and i guess it's a g/l/b mag. if there is a womyn's bookstore that
takes credit cards, a small gay book store or something independent that
would have it and take orders over the phone (so i can pay with my card and
save listee's the trouble) please let me know - i *really* want the cd, i
guess i'm becoming a ani completist 8^)
mike r.

umm..igc. i think austin city limits is on in maine and i will be listing
to live x on sun night. there :)

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hi everyone,

this review appeared in "revolver" (one of the sydney free
papers), feb 25-march 3 1998 issue.  it's hard to figure out
exactly what this guy thinks of the girls - at some points he
seems to like them, at other points he doesn't.  and yep -
it's written "shaming the sun" the whole way through the
review...

-sherlyn


indigo girls
shaming the sun
epic
(reviewed by victor lucas)

now these girls know how to hit a harmony and strum a mean
acoustic.  how many albums later and rave reviews is it?
many probably thought the indigos would have fallen by the
wayside a long time ago, yet here they are with the umpteenth
album and a world tour.  having worked with heroes like
stipesy and the wonderful producer scott litt, "shaming the
sun" finds the girls back in familiar folk/rock territory,
this time enlisting steve earle as an extra special guest.

shaming the sun is a gutsier album than usual.  the rhythm
section is dirty and more beefy, especially on tracks like
"shed your skin".  the pick of the bunch is "get out the map",
a track in the tradition of "closer to fine".  fortunately
there is nothing too over impassioned like their not so
brilliant version of "romeo and juliet" which felt burdened by
ay rays at times *too* strident voice.

the balance of voices is perfectly chimed in the sweet pop of
"it's allright", a snappy ditty with a warm as sunshine chorus.
the girls have pretty much produced this album under their own
steam.  david leonard goes along for the ride but the indigos
have done it long enough now to be able to pull it off
themselves.  "leeds" is an unusual track, a big piano ballad
full of atmospheric harmonies soaked in reverb.  leeds is a
long way from georgia, and in the song the girls sounds like
they miss home.  fax papers slipped under the hotel room door
like food for the prisoner, a lyric for the post-modern world.

the ballad "everything" is plaintive and sad; with lisa germano
on violin and mandolin they stay true to their folk roots.  if
you are an *indigo girls* fan then you'll like "shaming the sun"
as there is plenty to sink your teeth into.  if you've never
been a fan, have a listen to some of their live recordings,
because that's where they really shine.  on "shaming" they seem
to be confronting their own demos.  "shaming the sun" indeed.

**** (four stars)


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hi all,

   hey i was wondering if anyone out there knows what the song "the ballad of
squeaky fromme" means.  i have no clue....but i am getting something about
good and evil..."god is in my heart but the devil's in my bones".  i dunno????

emily

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so very sorry for the waste of band width, but if you are the dan who
emailed me about the men/women thing, please email me cuz my computer
ate your letter.  thanks!
jill

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<< ray said her tastes lay more in the clash and murder ballads
sung by little old ladies from the appalachian mountains. >>

what is that???
murder ballads?  little old ladies?  appalachian mountains?
yikes...someone clear this up!
~liz

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someone asked about the meaning of "the balled of squeaky fromme"  if it's
any help.. squeaky fromme was one of charles mansons "family memebers"
-jules

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hi everyone,

first, here's the setlist for last thursday's show at the state
theatre in sydney:

1. mystery
2. three hits
3. get out the map
4. land of canaan
5. hammer and a nail
6. don't give that girl a gun
7. it's alright
8. shame on you
9. power of two
10. cut it out / wish you were here
11. least complicated
12. i don't wanna know
13. leeds
14. romeo
15. galileo
16. chickenman

17. ghost
18. closer to fine

it was a good, solid show, but nothing particularly spectacular.
but for the first-timers in our group i think the set list made a
wonderful first concert.  and to be honest, there were a number of
other factors contributing to my personal opinion of this show -
for one, the fact that we couldn't see anything from our second
row seats because of all the people who rushed the stage.  then
there were the inevitable comparisons to our so very perfect second
row experience on sunday night in melbourne...  but still.  an ig
show is by definition a good ig show, right?  so, no real
complaints on my part...

highlights:
- opening with "mystery".
- amy sang the intro to "three hits" acapella.  gorgeous.
- "wish you were here".  goosebumps!

don't get me wrong, it was a fine show and i enjoyed it a lot,
but it was very similar to the first show i saw in melbourne on
saturday, except with less talking by the girls... they seemed
to be pretty much "down to business" the whole night, in fact.

the crowd was fairly rowdy, although nowhere near as rowdy as some
of the shows i've been to in the us, of course.  but there was a
lot of hollering going on, especially at the front.  lots of "we
love you!" and "happy mardi gras"-s flying about... the crowd
singing was pretty cool too (amy said so, after po2. :)

one random things:
someone asked emily what the pictures were that are stuck on the
front of her feedback amp.  "just people i know," she replied.

okay, i think that's pretty much it.  review of the second sydney
show to follow!

happy happy,
sherlyn
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hey again everyone,

here's the set list for last night's show at the state theatre in
sydney:

1. shame on you
2. least complicated
3. tried to be true
4. the wood song
5. hey kind friend
6. it's alright
7. dead man's hill
8. get out the map
9. shed your skin
10. power of two
11. i don't wanna know
12. virginia woolf
13. scooter boys
14. leeds
15. chickenman
16. galileo

17. ??? gone again ??? (mystery song)
18. kid fears
19. closer to fine

the show was excellent.

i think the whole night had a much better general vibe than the
night before.  amy and emily seemed to be a lot more loose and
energetic and there was more audience interaction. they commented
that they'd been sailing ("on a boat.  in the harbour.") that day,
it obviously put them in a good mood.  starting off with a funny
goof in soy (see below) and putting "least complicated" right at
the start of the set list didn't hurt either!

highlights (so many!):
- in "shame on you", amy forgot to keep playing while emily
        swapped her banjo for a guitar.  amy just sort of stood
        there watching, then suddenly realised there was no music
        happening.  whoops. :)
- "the wood song" - oh how i love this song...
- "hey kind friend" - we got to hear this, after amy's forgetting
        how to play this in melbourne last weekend.  (although,
        they did play it in brisbane earlier this week.)  it
        sounded beautiful.  afterwards amy said, "thanks y'all for
        listening so well.  that song can be interminable.  we like
        it, 'cos we feel it.  (emily: "we feel it!")  but, you
        know, it's probably one of those self-indulgent things..."
- they could not seem to get co-ordinated on the start of "dead
        man's hill".  "we're having different bio-rhythms tonight,"
        said amy, then they just stood there looking at each other.
        emily: "we've been playing together for almost 20 years!"
        so cute (not to mention the little dance thing they did -
        a definite indigo moment)...
- "shed your skin".  acoustic.  oh, wow.
- one of the best versions of "power of two" i've ever heard.  when
        it's "on", that song really gives me the warm fuzzies in a
        major way.
- "chickenman" - especially groovy tonight.  i love the new funky
        thing they're doing at the end of this song.  emily's slide
        guitar adds a whole new groove - it's excellent.
- the mystery song - no one seems to know what it was (anyone?),
        although i have a feeling i've heard it somewhere before.
        i thought it might be "wild horses" - it wasn't.  it's an
        australian song, i'm fairly certain... amy said emily had
        never heard it before.  if that's true, then she did a heck
        of a job on the solo!  i'll try to find out what the song
        was...
- "closer to fine" - our very own ian carandang got up on stage to
        sing on this.  (hey ian, you're famous. :)  helped up on
        stage by none other than amy ray herself!  they also got
        simone hardy (the opening act) to sing the last verse.
        she seemed a little overwhelmed but she did pretty well.

all in all i'd say - a superlative concert, i think just about
everybody would agree it was better than the concert on thursday
night.  on thursday i just didn't seem to feel that much of a
connection to other people in the audience, but on friday it was
definitely there.  a great concert, from start to finish.

speaking of finishes, that's the last ig show i'm going to see on
this australian tour.  i just wanted to say that it's been lovely
meeting everyone i met - you're all wonderful (except lynda from
nz, who's more than a little weird haha).  it's been a blast, and
i'm sad it's over... but there's always the next time to look
forward to!  and of course, i'm going road tripping again next
week because of a certain dar williams...

oh - the tape.  it turned out great, except that you can hear me
singing in "kid fears", ctf and a few other songs (oh no!).  hang
tight, it'll be treed or something soon...

happy, happy and happy all over again,
sherlyn
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date:         sat, 28 feb 1998 07:46:37 est
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for those of you who might be interested to hear this...  i just pulled it
down off the ap wire on aol's news board.  for those of you who don't give a
rat's @$$.... sorry for the waste of bandwidth.

---begin---
alaska ruling supports gay marriage

juneau, alaska (ap) - a judge ruled friday against alaska's ban on same-sex
marriages, ordering the state to show why it should be able to regulate who
people marry. the ruling does not legalize same-sex unions in alaska, but
forces the state to prove a compelling reason why such unions should be
illegal. superior court judge peter michalski said choosing a partner is a
fundamental right and the state constitution protects both the ''traditional
choice and the nontraditional choice.''
----end---

looks like a step in the right direction to me!  :)

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
    -  president, grlchasr26 fan club
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"i'm tigger," said tigger.
"oh!" said pooh, for he had never seen an animal like this
before.  "does christopher robin know about you?"
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date:         sat, 28 feb 1998 12:59:42 +0000
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ok, i don't know whether they'll have the issue availiable on their
back issue service yet, but you should be able to find out more
about the magazine from going to....

www.gaytimes.co.uk

hope that's helpful.....

john.


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kryten : "are you sure, sir? it does mean changing the bulb."

(red dwarf)

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just wanna remind the atlanta folks about the list meet today!
like you could have *possibly* forgotten!!!! ha!

if you need information, you can e-mail me, or christy (cml@mindspring.com)
we've got directions to the flying biscuit and stuff.

see ya later! :)
cathy

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has anyone heard any information regarding the show at wittenberg college
in springfield?  ticket info, etc...

also, has anyone heard if the girls are coming to lasalle university in
philadelphia?

i know that the wittenberg show is scheduled for april, and the rumor mill
says the lasalle one is, too.
just wondered if anyone had any info!

thanks!
meg

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hey y'all,

excuse me for having to request this info. here, but...

does anyone know the address for the one kristen hall page that exists (to
my knowledge) i have tried (in vain, obviously) for the past few days to
find the page on the web, or its address in my saved folders, but i've
come up empty handed.  y'all are my last resort.  i know i won't be
disappointed.  thanks!!!  peace, melissa

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-my life is more than a vision -emily saliers

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rage/ my senses said it would lead me astray/ i said go, go, go -a.r.

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kristen hall's web page is at http://home.intranet.org/kristen_hall/   it's a
great site so take some time to visit!

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hey y'all,

i'm just looking for a web address again.  i am looking for the pictures
of kristen and ig playing at eddie's attic for the michelle malone last
yr.  i saw them before on the kristen page, but i can't find them now?
does anyone know where they are?  sorry i'm such a helpless lister.

peace, melissa

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-my life is more than a vision -emily saliers

-i am a problem child/ i've been wild all my days/ all my anger and my
rage/ my senses said it would lead me astray/ i said go, go, go -a.r.

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hey y'all -
y'know how most maxell tape labels have points on them (usually 10 or 25)??
they obviously are meant to be redeemed for something, but i can't find any
info anywhere on what you can do with maxell points - does anyone know?

please email me, or perhaps other listees will be interested too. . .

thanks!!

ig,
~flora

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i thought that the girls where supposed to be on today's show. i was all ready
to tape & the manhatten transfer are on. what's the deal? will the girls ever
be on?

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hey everyone,

the following article appeared in the entertainment guide of
"the age" (one of melbourne's foremost newspapers) on
february 20 1998.

thanks neill!
-sherlyn


rock of resistance
the indigo girls are folk guitarists who believe music can effect change.
the atlanta duo tell jane rocca why.


the indigo girls inject folk music with up-tempo smothering. since their
formation in 1984, the atlanta duo emily saliers and amy ray have earned a
solid reputation for their stripped-down folk rock. last year, they released
their ninth studio album, 'shaming of the sun', a piquant amalgam of
bouzouki, mandolin, hurdy-gurdy and contemporary folk music fused with
semi-political topics.

in 1989, they released their first album, 'indigo girls', through epic
records. now nine years on, saliers and ray are still winning fans and
record-label support.

constant touring and commitment to each other has proved a winning
combination for saliers and ray. "our friendship is very flexible," says
ray. "we don't live together and we rarely see each other during our time
off. there are moments when one of us doesn't feel sure of our path, but i
mean it's rare. we appreciate what we have."

she says music keeps them motivated: "we love music and i think what
inspires us more than our own music is hearing other people's music. we have
the dedication to not stagnate and so it's given us a certain amount of
consistency. we have the work-ethic thing, we like to work and tour".

the indigo girls do more than play folk music; they raise political
awareness through their song writing and spend months touring to raise money
for various community organisations. "we did a month-long benefit tour
called 'honour the earth' a few months ago in the states, canada and
mexico," says ray. the 21 shows raised more than $300,000.

ray also runs her own record label, daemon records, which released a cd to
accompany the event. it featured artists such as bonnie raitt, soul asylum
and victoria williams.

"art is a form of resistance to the system" she says. "i guess it reflects
what we were taught and about our approach to the community. everybody gives
to each other. we would organise benefits for people in atlanta to (help)
musicians that got sick. we don't really do anything differently to before.
the only thing is that it is much bigger now."

'shaming of the sun' is very personal album for ray, but it received mixed
reviews. "all i know is that for me this record means a lot because we grew
a lot and i feel good about that."

ray admits she doesn't read reviews. "the good ones make me feel good and
the bad ones quite bad. i think the only thing that has bothered us over the
years is the lack of recognition from 'rolling stone' and 'spin magazine'.
when they review the record all they can do is talk about our fan base, our
sexuality but never the music, that is a point of contention sometimes.
that's natural for the ego. i think the main thing is that we have really
counted on touring and word of mouth. in turn, that has triggered a
grass-roots support from fans. we aren't about huge promotion, our
commitment has rewarded us with the fans that we want and that are loyal to
us".


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evening all.  i was wondering if some kind soul who will be seeing dar
soon could pick up a few stickers for me?  i will recompense accordingly.
thanks.  faye.

mail privately, please -- of course.

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wonderful stuff another ig article....with a colour photo...

i type word for word...here goes...

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folk sisters in lore

being politically and socially conscious is second nature to emily saliers.
whether she's talking about it in music or taking time to talk about gay
rights, the singer/songwriter and guitarist says the indigo girls are
activists in their daily lives.

she claims her musical partner amy ray is much more active but saliers
herself has a full dance card. ray runs a small record company and the pair
campaign for indigenous american rights by working with some of the local
communities.

"on one hand it's very emotional and on the other hand it's at it's most
powerful when you see the work they are doing in their own communities,"
saliers says on the phone from her home in the us. "that's as inspirational
as it is emotional."

"mostly our work is in the context of being musicians. i'm particularly
interested in speaking to young gay people and trying to be involved with
related groups as much as possible. you have to be a really gifted writer to
be able to convey what's going on if you have not been there. to be there,
you feel an emotion and that is powerful. and while i write as much as i
feel about something i have never been able to reach that point. i want to
be able to write a song and i creatively fall short. but that's the striving
and it's the best teacher."

the indigo girls have played a big part in lilith fair, the traveling
femme-festival put together by canadian singer sarah mclachlan. as well as
featuring dozens of female artists like jewel, jill sobule, sussannah hoffs,
tracy chapman, suzanne vega, aimee mann, fiona apple and mary
chapin-carpenter, the festival has highlighted numerous women's issues.

"lilith was great," saliers says. "it was like summer camp where everyone
got on really well. we met a lot of wonderful people.

"i do think it's significant and it will remain significant if it keeps
looking at itself and continues to have female artists. they gave away over
$1 million to women's groups, shelters and groups like that and got a lot of
local people to play in different places. i think initially they got a lot
of resistance but that's the human standpoint when something becomes
successful."

saliers and ray are going to perform at the next installment of lilith and
will then take a break before thinking about making another album.

the confessional folk-rockers, playing without a band, will perform at the
(perth) concert hall on wednesday. nestled among the older favourites there
will be a smattering from the duo's latest album, shaming of the sun.
saliers is excited and pleased with how the album has come up live. she
calls it the indigo girls' most accomplished album both in the writing and
in the experimentation.

they produced it themselves and played several different instruments, which
were new to them.

"it was so gratifying and that always feels good," saliers says. "thankfully
the fans like it, too. amy and i were playing around with different
instruments during our live shows before we went to record. there were a lot
of growing pains. some of the songs were really arranged in the studio and
we have never really done that. then it was a different experience going
back out to the fans. ultimately that was a great thing. it helped us take
risks and be more free. i think we are really lucky because our fans are
very accepting and supportive. if we have to fall on our faces in front of
everyone then i'm glad it's our fans. it's difficult when you feel insecure
and you are trying to grow. it's not a comfortable feeling but now it seems
such a long time ago. you have to go through the experience to get to the
other side. there are always lessons you should learn and apply and
sometimes you just don't.

ray wrote some of the album's songs on guitar and others on mandolin while
for saliers writing one on the bouzouki and piano was a big step. shaming of
the sun also contains her first song written with electric guitar. the pair
have always preferred acoustic.

"we had a natural inclination to grow and for me it was getting over a fear
of something new," she says. "it was getting over that and writing songs on
the piano that you can't write on the guitar. for me it's more about the
passion behind the music and it's really emotional music. as long as we
remain honest and write about our perceptions of things and our fans can
hook into it then that's what i know how to do."

so there's little chance, saliers says, that she'll take the plunge into
politics, despite the fact there are increasing numbers of women beginning
to appear in the american congress.

"politics is so nasty. i think i would have a lot of learning to do about
policy making and playing the game. it's all about a successful campaign and
that's more money than substance. i find that disconcerting. it's good there
are still people there for the right reasons."


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there is also a colour photo, amy sitting indian style , emily sitting with
her knees up....em has a red rage against the machine t-shirt on dressed in
black...and amy has bleached levis on and a black t-shirt, picking at her
big toe. i have seen this photo before somewhere i'm sure.....

ok, i'm done now.

joadster
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hmm....the ig's were on my pbs station tonite in nashville  <shrug>

~llm

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hey everyone,

this is a review of friday night's sydney show, passed on from
helen gladman...

:)
sherlyn


>review of sydney show. state theatre. 27 feb.
>
>opening with shame on you wasn't what i had anticipated from amy and
>emily but i'm glad they did because it was the perfect opener. it
>makes me want to dance and sing so loud and i was lost to the show
>from that moment onwards.
>
>this was my second ig show in three years. a long time between
>drinks. i was nervous, wondering if it would match up to the
>exhilleration of my first experience in canberra in 95. i needn't
>have worried. it was magnificent! no stream of consciousness from amy
>this time to send me reeling but nontheless, i was blown away again.
>
>amy and emily were bright and happy and interacted together and with
>the audience really well all night. lots of cute moments including when they
>screwed up and joked about having been playing for nearly 20 years.
>
>amy: but we haven't practiced. we've just played.
>
>or something like that.
>
>a low moment came from the girl beside me who, after hey kind friend,
>when amy and emily thanked the audience for listening so well, (amy's
>words were, "this song can be interminable sometimes,"), the dumb
>girl beside me yelled out, (keep in mind we were in front of the
>stage, emily's side), "you have me an orgasm!" i saw emily just raise
>her eyebrows at her. as you would!
>
>surprises of the night were, for me, virginia woolf, kid fears and i
>don't wanna know. the audience did a beautiful stipe impersonation
>and the end of vw was chillingly gorgeous despite a slight off note
>from emily. a disappointment was the absence of na-na-na's at the end
>of least complicated. not sure what happened there..
>
>a true high point was the totally acoustic shed your skin. wow. i
>felt like i'd never heard the song before. they could strip any songs
>down to the bare bones of two acoustic guitars - i'm convinced of
>that - as if i needed convincing!
>
>the night concluded with iain from the philippines doing what he said
>he would do, and getting up on stage for ctf. he looked totally
>ecstatic. who wouldn't? i told myself that next week in canberra, my
>brother and sister and i will be up there. no matter what it takes.
>we'll make a sign, we'll get their attention, we'll do it!
>
>as a momento from the night, i have bruises on my legs from where i
>clambered up onto the stage after the show to beat the orgasm girl to
>a pick or a set list. i think sherlyn and co were shocked to see my
>violence but there was no way i was going to let her get it! so i
>made myself look like a desperate teenager! i don't care! i got the
>conveted set list and later got a pick from sulli with sherlyn since
>i missed every one i went for on the stage.
>
>thanks to sherlyn for the ticket and the bed (i owe you big time!);
>thanks to everyone who was with us that night. i had a great time and
>won't forget it in a hurry even if i did doze off in the hotel lobby
>later on!
>
>only six days til the canberra show.......
>
>then i'm off to america....!!
>
>helen
>
>

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i  go to wittenberg university, and yes, the indigo girls are
coming!!!!!!!!!  the concert will be on 22 april (wednesday).

i have no idea when tickets go on sale (but i heard they will only be $16
for witt students, who knows if that is true...wouldn't it be nice,
though?), but i will keep the list posted.

:-) karen

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