lifeblood: listlogs: 1998-03d


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date:         sat, 21 mar 1998 21:15:50 pst
reply-to:     becca redman <dimmingsoul@hotmail.com>
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subject:      joan baez - "chicken dance"??? igc!
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hey y'all.

i am way tired, but i wanted to make this post

i juct got back from seeing joan baez here in portland (maine, that is)
she was incredible!!!  i never knew she was so funny!! it was an amazing
show but i'm too tired to go on a tangent about it...

during the middle of her set though, she was talking about her son (who
was playing with ig?)  and she said "the indigo girls asked me 'why
don't you come and sing during chickenman?' and i thought 'no, i don't
like that song' but then a minute into chickenman i came on stage and
did a chicken dance [it was funny, she demonstrated] the indigo girls,
they had to keep their eyes shut so they could concentrate.  they're
very professional, they kept on singing"..... anyway, it was a funny
story... does anyone know more about this???

then she covered "welcome me" ...  it was reallyinteresting
seeing/hearing joan cover an ig song. i didn't think it was all that
great, but maybe i'm a bit biased ;)

during her encore she did "don't think twice" and she did a dylan
imitation, which was a riot.

also, she had joah segal with her. i told my friend in the beginnign of
the show "hey, that's josh segal" and she was like "who? how do you know
that???? why do you know that?" and when joan introduced him, my friend
was just like "ok, i'm impressed. but i still don't know why you know
that"

ok, sorry if there are typos everywhere, i'm sleepy :)

night... indigo dreams...

oh, speaking of indigo dreams : )   i had this dream last night that amy
showe dup at a show dressed as a mermaid, and looking kind of like ani
does on "little plastic castle".... weird, huh????  anyway, random!!

later-
becks

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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 00:57:22 est
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hey everyone -
i just went to an incredible concert tonight - joan baez in portland, me... it
was awesome; she was beautiful. i was surprised how un-irritating her voice
was in concert (while i've always liked her music and politics, etc, her voice
has always kinda bugged me) and she had a a great stage personality....
anyway - the two highlights of the evening were (naturally) ig related - 1)
she somehow got to talking about how she played with them a while ago (i think
this would be when she guest-appeared on the west-coast tour) and how they
wanted her to come out and sing chickenman with them; but no, she doesn't like
that song, so instead she came out in the middle of it and did a chicken dance
across the stage.  she said amy and em were concentrating so much that they
kept their eyes closed the whole time - "the indigo girls, they're very
professional..."
and 2) she did welcome me.  and even credited the indigo girls. (although i
wished she would have said amy, because that's actually who wrote it... but
i'm not complaining.)

and while i'm talking about joan baez/ig, just wanted to remind everyone that
they are on her album "ring them bells," (singing "don't think twice, it's
alright;" and she sings "welcome me," too), along with people like janis ian,
dar williams, etc...

happy spring!!!
hope everyone is contributing to the birthday fund if they can...
~flora

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date:         sat, 21 mar 1998 22:11:10 -0800
reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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subject:      re: excluding men (mwmf)
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greg, you and i have disagreed on similar topics before, and i guess
we will here too.

> what i have major issue with is that indigo girls, a band i have respected
> over many years for sticking to their guns and not giving into pressure or
> politics has suddenly decided to play at this festival.  correct me if i am
> wrong, but haven't they refused to do this festival specifically because it
> excluded men and they didn't want to be part of a separatist event.
> nothing has changed here--it still excludes men.

has it occurred to anyone else here that maybe amy and emily want
to experience this sort of festival for themselves??  it is entirely
possible that they, like deb r, will find that the separated sub-areas
at michgan arent to theri taste and they wouldnt return in the future.
but perhaps amy and emily want to find out for themsevles.  perhaps
they know women who felt empowered at the fest and want to see for
themselves.

what i keep seeing througout this thread is an amazing double standard.
"let the women have their festival...just dont let my favorite
group have our permisson to play!".  that's what i keep seeing.
people seem to be taking it personally that ig have "decided" to
"scorn" their fans and play this festival. how come i dont see the same\
from ani fans?  dar fans? (maybe it occurs on those lists but i
havent seen it here). who are any of us, really, as fans to decide
for them what they should and shouldnt do with respect to this festival?

>
> not at all.  as i said, there seems to be a lot of interest in it so have
> the festival.  but ig playing there is my main beef.  who pressured them
> into it?  most ig concerts are mostly women anyway.  but  the difference is
> that i would at least be allowed to go.  it's all principle to me.

this is a big distinction...michigan isnt an indigo girls concert.  it
is, as i understand it (i havent fgone myself for a variety of reasons,
mainly financial), a cultural event which also happens to have
music as a mainstay.  maybe that's a minor distinction to some, or
not one at all, but it is to me.  from what i ahve seen quoted
from both emily and amy on this, no one forced them to ploay there.
and does anyone really think ig would do anything that required some
force? they seem to want to attend.  why cant we let them?

> this is crap (imho of course) :).   should we have one day a year where
> black folks need to go to the back of the bus for old time's sake.  how
> about one day a year where jews get rounded up and sent to the poison
> chambers--just for kicks and german unity.  it's only once a year!  why
> not.  or how about a once a year all straight festival--no homos or dykes
> allowed would be the slogan.  what if ig performed at that concert.  i'm am
> sure jokes about fags being allowed on between 2 and 4 am to clean the
> port-o-homophobes wouldn't be taken as lightly.

ok, greg...i'm really not sure what happened here.  i hardly think
that\comparing michigan to racism is apt in any way. this is a serious
stretch, and i would like to know how you can justify comparing
michgian, essentially a festival of celebration (granting the
separatist set up) to racism?  racism caused by an ignorant
majority and genocide is hardly comparable to a one week long
event allowing lesbians who want to partake of it to be have space
separate from men.

>
> obviously the festival isn't as awful as my examples, but  the concept is
> the same.  it excludes and separates.  if it's a celebration of feminism
> and women's rights then men who support such things should be allowed in
> period.  since they are not ig should have stayed out.

i dont think you can quite excuse your examples this way.  i am offended
that you wold compare me, a lesbian who does like to partake of
women only space when i can, with a genocidal racist.  i do not think
every celebration of feminism should exclude men at all.  but this is
about lesbian space probably more than women space....i would feel
very uncomfortable in a space designed for gay men only, but maybe thats
just me.  and yes, i would be respectufl if there was a similar
festival for gay men.

again, amy and emily are intelligent women.  i think they probably
have a good idea of what michigan is all about and the controversies
around it over the years.  adn yet they have decided to attend, for\
their own reasons.  why cant we respect that?

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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 01:33:33 -0500
reply-to:     marivel danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
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hey all!

well yeah, anyone who was at the first warfield concert in san fransisco on the
1/26/98 knows about this story.  it was hysterical.  joan came out in the middle
of the set and did "welcome me" (before she started she announced: "i love this
rock and roll stuff", and then confessed: "i love the igs").

so she sang wm--trading verses with amy--and then went off stage while the girls
went into "chickenman".  about halfway through joan snuck on from towards the
back of the stage with her hands on her hips, flappin' her arms like wings.
what was so amusing was that neither amy or emily had any clue what was going on
for the first few minutes.  they just kept singing while joan clucked around
behind them.  first she came up behind emily and sort of "ass-bumped" her (yes i
*did* just invent that term right now).  so then emily looked surpised for a
moment and then started laughing.  so then joan walks up behind amy (who if i
recall correctly still doesn't realize what we're all laughing about...you
*know* how she gets when she plays!), and from her sort of hunched over
"chicken" position, joan actually pecked amy in the arm with her nose.  then of
course amy lost it and everyone was hysterical.  joan kept dancing around for
the rest of the song (a really long dance!).

later on in the show joan came out again (emily called her "chickenlady" and
then amy corrects her saying "chicken *woman*") and did "i am no mermaid" by
sinead lowen (i think that's what she says).  a beautiful song.

if you haven't found your branch for the tree of this boot, you should!  at the
beginning of chickenman they bring the digeridoo (i still don't know how to
spell this) and amy's exact words are: "aaaaugh!  that's so phallic!".  and as
an extra special bonus if you get the boot, right after that phallic part you
can hear amy yell the word "april" at *me* twice (she's tryin' to tell me when
virginia slam's gonna be).  so i'm sure y'all are just *dying* to hear that
now...this is also the show where emily sings "baby don't you break my heart
(slow)" with vonda shepard (just don't even *try* listening to this song if
you're in the midst of a breakup...sobbing in the front row is just never
attractive).

alright, enough promotion (i'm not even a branch).  take care....

marivel

jay leno: i gotta check out this tattoo. oh that's pretty!
           that looks indian to me.  is it?
amy ray: well yeah, the cross is a souix indian cross.
jay: are you part souix?
amy: no...
jay: but they're nice people so why not get the tattoo?

                 --tonight show (anyone have the date on this?)

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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 01:51:22 est
reply-to:     memememi <memememi@aol.com>
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the joan baez "chickenman" dance took place at the warfield in san francisco
on january 26th.  it was hilarious.  a&e were singing the part they always
sing without  guitars (you are my only one..........born in the sun..........)
concentrating, with both sets of eyes closed, when joan came out on the stage
strutting around like a chicken.   of course the entire place was laughing,
and i'm sure they had no idea what was going on, but they never opened their
eyes.  they kept singing until the harmony was over, and emily opened her eyes
and saw joan.  amy still had her eyes closed, but i think she figured out what
was going on when joan went up to her and started "pecking" at her upper arm
like a chicken.  it was hysterical.

and later in the show, joan was singing a song (i am no mermaid) and said
something about a desert and she inserted "buck buck" (chicken noises that i
have no idea how to spell out??) into the line without missing a beat.   emily
called her chickenwoman.   joan's son played a digeroo??  (australian
instrument) during the song, and amy had some cute comments about that too.  i
have to say that it definitely enhanced the song (and i didn't think that was
possible!)

okay.  next - thanks to some very generous people, i have quite a lot of new
photos on my web page from the newport folk festivals from 93, 95, and 96.
and something kind of neat.   we had a series of shots of emily from the los
angeles show singing "baby don't you break my heart slow".  so we put them
together in an "animated gif".  you have to use your imagination, but it
works.   =)   one word of warning though - this particular "gif" is 500k, so
if you have a slow connection, it could take a while to load, and you may want
to skip it.

so if you want to check it out, you can connect to the various picture pages
from here:   http://members.aol.com/memememi/indigogirls.html

=)
lisa

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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 03:41:53 est
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in a message dated 98-03-21 18:08:50 est, you write:

<<  i think that women (amy and emily included) are
allowed to appreciate and take part in this without feeling as if
they're hurting men.  that was not why mwmf was began; we don't want to
insult you, guys.  we just want to celebrate ourselves. >>

i am hurt.  at least follow this to its logical end.  if we need to seperate
ouselves at an event like an indigo girls concert, it must be important at
higher levels.  certainly public places would be considered an affront to the
experience of safety or freedom from male dominance.  merely existing together
stops women from celebrating themselves?  you supported your argument well,
but it should be followed through.  i feel like this creates division in the
end.  women should be allowed to be together of course.  but it seems like
this supports a seperation on a more public level.  that ideology sounds
frightening to me.
on another subject, has anyone purchased kristen herch's new album, strange
angels?  it is beautiful and i highly recommend it.  her lyrics are amazing.
i have been saturating myself with it for days.
a

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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 03:45:56 -0500
reply-to:     melsouth@mindspring.com
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re: the ig fan club tour dates postcard...

> regular tour dates
> 4/13 high school in southeast
> 4/14 gainesville, fl univ. of fla
> 4/16 chatanooga, tn

**note: the date listed above for the chattanooga, tn show is *wrong*

the correct date is wed april 15.

tickets for this show went on-sale sat march 21. (i know cuz i called
the box office and got mine over the phone -- 2nd row, center! <grin> )

i previously posted this info to the list:

> i found this info at:  http://www.chattanooga.gov
> (click on: local events)
>
> the indigo girls
>             memorial auditorium
>             wednesday, april 15 at 8:00 pm
>             (opening act tba.) all seats reserved
>             at $24.50. tickets go on sale
>             saturday, march 21 at memorial
>             auditorium box office or charge by
>             phone (423) 757-5042.
>
> chattanooga soldiers and sailors memorial auditorium
> 399 mccallie ave
> chattanooga, tn 37402
> box office: 423-757-5042

see ya there!...   :o)
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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 07:34:51 -0500
reply-to:     rick hodgin <foxmuldr@indy.net>
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does anyone know when the lilith fair tickets go on sale?
i haven't been able to find out anything on the web.

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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 07:54:51 est
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i've read with interest the many (many, many) viewpoints on the nmwf, or at
least most of them, or at least parts of most of them, or at least parts of
most of the first couple hundred messages.  now what i really want to know is,
how did amy and emily come to the decision to play the festival?  given the
controversy amongst us, they must have pondered it some before agreeing to
play there.  here's hoping the subject comes up in one of their interviews,
and someone posts the interview here.  (then we'll really have something to
talk about.)

bill

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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 09:06:51 -0400
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pooh wrote:

>the theory that bothers me most is that women need to find a safe place
>to be themselves away from men who will rape them and abuse them and
>seek out the more vunerable ones, use them and throw them away..what we
>all need to remember is...
>
>         women also rape women
>
>where do those victims go to feel safe..?


**that's a very good point pooh, and it's problematic to condemn all men
for the possibility of rape and not some women too.

statistically though, 99% of reported rapes are perpetrated by men. i'm
sure that there are women who don't report because of lots of societal
homophobia issues, just like there are lots of gay men who don't report
being raped by men. but the overwhelming facts say:  mostly men perpetrate
rape and sexual abuse of children.

the question that's up for argument is always "why". i would argue it's
pure, unfettered socialization...i don't think there's anything inherently
evil about men, or being a man, and it's purely the forces that shape
masculinity and femininity in our society that are the problem. those
forces encourage women to be passive, men to be aggressive sexually, and
let's face it...through pornography and other cultural outlets, our culture
totally eroticizes dominance. we're taught that it 's healthy, normal, and
cool to be submissive to our partners, especially if we are
straight....cause, we wouldn't want the man we are sleeping with to feel
less manly right? we wouldn't want to be sexually assertive and be
considered a "slut" would we?

it's all about the way we are raised, and the society we live in currently
is one where gender is still a factor, where race and class and
orientations are also factors, and where we are to some extent ( a great
extent, i would argue) socialized by these forces to be a cerain way, until
we realize it's wrong and limiting and gross, and decide to think
differently. and conduct our lives differently. i think separatism is a
part of that. it's about saying "i'm affirming my gender. i'm going against
what society tells me is worng, bad, not worthy....i'm going to be proud of
being a woman and express my saelf freely and also.... (for the most part)
not worry about being raped for a week". there are no guarantees in life,
there could be female rapists at the mwmf. but again, it's a safer envt.
than usually exists for women in public. if you think i'm whacked and
you're interested where i get my ideas about rape, socialization, and
dominance, i am a huge fan of the work of andrea dworkin and catharine
mackinnon, radical feminist writers....i recommend their stuff highly.

women report it)
>either we all work together to find a way for all people to feel safe
>rather than seperating ourselves or we may as well throw in the towel

***i don't agree with this. separatist communities, for some women,  give
women strength to go back into the world and create more positive changes
with their renewed  strength and sense of self. remember the kind of high
you were on after leaving girl scout camp as a kid? to me, that was the
first time i realized there was soemthing to this separatism stuff.
something really good for women, that doesn't have to be bad for men.
newsflash folks: there are a lot of striaght women at the mwmf who go back
to being wives and girlfriends after the week, they aren't exactly giving
up on male society. but if they go back into their relationships feeling
more in touch with themsleves and their abilities and power, i think that's
the point.

more men need to be involved in rape prevention efforts. more men need to
be , like mark, working at domestic violence shelters. thta's not me being
pompous and prescriptive, that's me noticing that in the four shelters and
rcc's i've volunteered in the past five years, i knew two male volunteers
(and no, we didn't have an exclusion policy).  these things *will* help and
will change things, i've seen it in my little microcosm. i challenge anyone
who feels resentful of the fact of the mwmf to do something to show their
concern about these issues. there's lots to do folks, trust me. we can make
changes together, but women can also heal and grow in separatist
communities for the benefit of everyone too.

ill shuttup now

love, sus

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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 09:02:21 est
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i want this boot!!!  can someone who's a branch for this please contact me??

thanks!!!

peace, harmony & indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism
  ~novitiate of suzanneglassism
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and he said, cause you're in my front yard!
boy did i feel as white as the snow!"
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in a message dated 98-03-22 03:43:17 est, green51976@aol.com writes:

<< i am hurt.  at least follow this to its logical end.  if we need to
seperate
ouselves at an event like an indigo girls concert, it must be important at
higher levels. >>

ok... i've finally been dragged into this only to say the following words:
this is not an indigo girls concert!!!!!!!  they are playing at a festival.
if it was a concert, that would be different!

peace, harmony & indigo,

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
   -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
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emily:  we call ourselves amy ray.  we'll be here all night.
amy:  that's right.  amy ray.  get used to it.
emily: i'm amy, she's ray.
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> << let's talk about something else. what do people think of the ellen show
> being cancelled >>
>
my understanding is that ellen wanted to end the show anyway.  (in fact,
she was hesitant about even doing this season)  however, the decision to
cancel the show was decided by the "in charge" people by themselves, and
ellen didn't find out until she 'heard it through the grapevine.' so,
she's pissed because she wanted the choice to cancel the show, not just
have it cancelled.

i feel bad that it is cancelled.  i also feel bad that it got cancelled
after one season.  i can understand that ellen doesn't want to feel like
she is the poster girl for lesbianism and the queer community -and
having to take so much slack from both dissatisfied sides...  but, i find
it a shame that the "ground-breaking" show to have a lesbian lead lasted
for just one season.  well, that's what you get now.  hopefully, lead
queer characters will last longer in the future...

peace, melissa

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is there a chat room or channel where those of you at odds with each other
about not only ig playing the mmwf, but the festival's existence itself,
could hash this out?  i think probably every opinion and angle has already
been discussed here and i'm sure the vast majority of us are really yawning
and deleting now.  i totally agree with the others who say that if there is
a genuine complaint, bring it to the attention to someone who is in a
position to do something about it, or at least answer your questions.
as for amy and emily playing, though i read somewhere that they explained why,
if any of you who disagree with their playing the festival happen to see
them after a show before then, why don't you just ask them why they decided
to play it this year?  belly-aching about it here accomplishes nothing.
i respect everyone's opinions and i see merit in both sides'
arguments, but honestly, we're kind of spinning our wheels here now.

peace,

joan :-d

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hi!  i'm reposting this message from thursday....many have been asking how
amy and emily came to their decision to play at mwmf and i thought this
offered some insight.  of particular interst the passage about them
inviting themselves to play....obviously no one pressured them into playing
as has been suggested.  i hope this helps...thanks to lisa for posting in
the first place!

casey

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> from: lisalisaa <lisalisaa@aol.com>
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> subject: the fest
> date: thursday, march 19, 1998 11:04 pm
>
> for several years, i personally have resisted all pleas by friends to
attend
> the mwf because i dont at all agree with the separatist agenda or
practice
> there.
>
> emily saliers mentioned to me when i interviewed her in october that they
> hoped to play michigan this year. i brought up the separatist thing, said
i
> had never gone because of that. she said at 34, she just felt like it was
> alright for her to make a decision  to support a safe space for women
for a
> week or two because the rest of the year there were a lot of spaces that
> werent safe for women.
>
> both girls seemed really into playing the festival. i asked amy about it
> during an interview with her and she said they were essentially inviting
> themselves and that it would be a bummer if the michigan people wouldnt
let
> them play.
>
> so i guess they got what they wanted and good for them i say.
>
> i mean i dont think its right for me (altho, as deb said, if amy strolls
> around in nothing but leather chaps i will kick myself for several months
at
> least), but it sounded to me like they had their reasons and really
wanted to
> do it. and as many have pointed out, it's one show of several hundred
theyve
> played this tour, so i dont think anyone has a right to gripe about it.
>

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sus espoused:
>newsflash folks: there are a lot of striaght women at the mwmf who go
back
>to being wives and girlfriends after the week, they aren't exactly
giving
>up on male society. but if they go back into their relationships
feeling
>more in touch with themsleves and their abilities and power, i think
that's
>the point.

you go
you go
go
go
go sus

this is also an issue of reform-- liberal or radical.  let me explain
myself:  since we've hit upon a point that it's *society* that's doing
this, we have the option to try to change the society.
we could choose *liberal* reform, meaning that we would keep the
existing structure (capitalist patriarchy) and try to change our roles
within it.  try to work for equality for men and women.  however, this
would mean that we'd be striving to attain males' status, and not status
of our own.  it's indirectly saying that being female isn't 'honorable'
or 'good enough' and everyone should have the power, status, etc. that
males are granted.

or we could choose *radical* reform, meaning that we would all throw in
the towel on our present society and say 'f*** it' and go create another
structure, one which abolishes all preexisting structures and classes,
whatever we'd like it to be, cause it'd be *of our own creation*.
i hear from many of the guys that they want what would be liberalism--
all-inclusive equality.
but the mwmf supporters want radical reform-- women doin' it for
themselves.  and, honestly, the creators and supporters of such
festivals have every right to do so, because it's *of their own
creation*.

jill
(who is also enrolled in methodological perspectives in the study of
women, which, again, explains the soapbox under my birkenstocks).


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sorry..still don't agree its healthy..
as i understand it ( deb, help me here if i misunderstood) the fest is
solely for women born women so already we're excluding a chunk of women(
just my  opinin..if we want to debate whether trans women are "real"
women we prolly should take it off the list before it even starts or
sheryln will really put her foot down)
but does that me we have to have a special area for stone butches?????
then we seperate in groups of women with kids so that those without  can
be safe from kids..
well where do we go from there..
straight women go over there so that gay women are safe from strights
who are questioning their sexuality  or just might treat this weekend as
an experiment
and then we send those couples over to their section so that  couples
can enjoy themselves in relative safty  without fearing that  one of the
partners seein someone else across the fairground  might lead to a
possibilty of a breakup
and do we put the gay women in another section so the straights feel
safe showering in front of dykes
and do we stick  bi-women in a seperate corner so that the "real"
lesbians don't , by accident, become attracted to someone who also does
"that"..
when does the seclusion stop..
what about  s and m..i hear this year its being open to these
ladies..cool..but will they have a seperate section to practice their
own little fun..frankly..i've always had a fear of s/m..mainly cause
iknow very little of it( sure i have a couple pair of alligator clips
but thats about it)..but if they have to stay in their own little safe
corner then how would i ever know or learn?
do we keep the "tops" overhere
and the "bottoms" over there..
whens it gonna end
maybe ..just to be safe we all need to wear little badges thatlet others
know what it is we are afraid of..mine would read something like..woman
who made a mistake so she married a man but after 40 years finally found
the courageto come out to herself and admit shes a lesbian but now must
deal with the mess she made who has also been raped by a man and a woman
so she has trust issues with both genders ..
what i really would prefer it read was just
pooh

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in a message dated 98-03-22 09:06:21 est, ohsusanna@sugar-river.net writes:

<< i think separatism is a
part of that. it's about saying "i'm affirming my gender. i'm going against
what society tells me is worng, bad, not worthy....i'm going to be proud of
being a woman and express my saelf freely >>

i have read the posts about the mwmf debate and find them to have been very
thought provoking.  personally, i'm still undecided as to where i stand on the
issue.  i just wanted to point out that the scary thing about the above
statement is that if you substitue race for gender and white christan for
woman you have the basic justification of the kkk.  i'm not trying to say that
the folks who run the mwmf and their suporters are violently inclined bigots
(of course the kkk and other groups like them take it to a much farther
extent), but the whole principle of seperatism remains.

west of bishes
shana

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a new topic ( i promise i'm done with the old)
so now that everyone has 8,000,000 boots from the new tour..is there any
kind soul ( or fool, depending on how youwanna look at it) who would be
willing to put together a boot of the best recording of the best tunes
of this tour..i am more than willing to help but cannot handle the whole
thing myself
i've been listening a lot to these songs revised..( which for those of
you who are new was a collection of the songs from the new album before
it was released)
it would be interesting to see how they have progressed and changed
since the trial tour back last summer..
any thoughts or suggestions???
like a comparision between a great boot of an acoustic caramia as
compared to a great boot of the electric version??
anyone??

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sorry...  i can't take issue with those who feel the need for space....  jill
and sus and others have elucidated the issues better than i can...  i
personally would not be comfortable in such surroundings, but if one of my
singer/songwriter friends wanted to attend or perform at the fest, i would
have no issue with it, even though it meant i would not be able to accompany
her during the gig....

if amy and emily want to play the gig, i would think that we who have been
moved my their music would trust their motives in doing so....  and frankly,
it's none of our damn business......

tim

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sorry to address this again, but i just got back from spring break and found it necessary to throw in a couple new points on this topic.  i'll try to make it brief----

first of all, i can very well see both sides to this debate.  it is deeply personal, and bound to provoke passionate opinions.  i myself, am going to be attending the festival for the first time this summer.  not necessarily in support of everything that it stands for, but in appreciation of much of it.  i will go because i am an activist.  i see this festival as an opportunity for women to come together, find unity in thier common experiences, and gather up some strength from that to go out and face a world that, yes, has come very far in terms of women's needs and rights, but still has a long way to go.  i think it is easy to lose sight of this continuous struggle within the realm of patriarchy.  maybe it would help to just see michigan as a refueling place to remind women of the necssity of this struggle.  including women only, although often seen as eliminating willing supporters, perhaps is just to secure that the work necessary for getting where we feel we need to be, is not, even unintentionally, made secondary.  if it can be seen as an inclusion of women, rather than an exclusion of men, maybe that could get us better focused here.

also, i agree that music is the universal language that connects us all... however, there is much more to michigan than just the music.  (workshops, seminars, spiritual appreciation, etc.)  perhaps the focus of many of these things are not as univeral as music can be.

lastly, along with what jo said about the need for separtism sometimes, i find it interesting that michigan is continually described with such words as "comfortable", "safe", and "peaceful", and many of those attacking its politics seem to be doing so in an angry, insulting manner.  need for separation?  just a thought.

feel free to discuss, flame, etc. by emailing me privately.
-liz

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on sun, 22 mar 1998 13:16:01 est, shana wrote:

>statement is that if you substitue race for gender and white christan
for woman you have the basic justification of the kkk.
>...but the whole principle of seperatism remains.

yes, but keep in mind that:

the kkk and other such racist groups were began, by oppresive members of
the majority, with ill intent, meant to further oppress those in the
(quantitative as well as power-wise) minority.

michigan was began, by oppress*ed* members of the *minority* with a
*positive goal* in mind for the minority.

the parallels between the two, while similar on the surface, actually
have very different ideologies behind them.

jill

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this is the coolest thing i've read in a long time.
_______

"it doesn't interest me what you do for a living.  i want to know what you
ache for, and if you dare to dream of meeting your heart's longing.

it doesn't interest me how old you are.  i want to know if you will risk
looking like a fool for love, for your dreams, for the adventure of being
alive.

i need to know if you have touched the center of your own sorrow, if you
have been opened by life's betrayals or have become shriveled and closed
from fear of further pain!

i want to know if you can sit with pain, mine or your own, without moving
to hide it or fade it or fix it.  i want to know if you can be with joy,
mine or your own; if you can dance with wildness and let the ecstasy fill
you to the tips of your fingers and toes without cautioning us to be
careful, be realistic, or to remember the limitations of being human.

it doesn't interest me if the story you're telling me is true.  i want to
know if you can disappoint another to be true to yourself; if you can bear
the accusation of betrayal and not betray your own soul.  i want to know
if you can be faithful and therefore be trustworthy.

i want to know if you can see beauty even when it is not pretty every day,
and if you can source your life from god's presence.  i want to know if
you can live with failure, yours and mine, and still stand on the edge of
a lake and shout to the silver of the full moon, 'yes!'

it doesn't interest me to know where you live or how much money you have.
i want to know if you can get up after the night of grief and despair,
weary and bruised to the bone, and do what needs to be done for the
children.

it doesn't interest me who you are, how you came to be here.  i want to
know if you will stand in the center of the fire with me and not shrink
back.

it doesn't interest me where or what or with whom you have studied.  i
want to know what sustains you from the inside when all else falls away.
i want to know if you can be alone with yourself, and if you truly like
the company you keep in the empty moments."

.....oriah mountain dreamer, an native american elder

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amy putnam wrote:

>greg, you and i have disagreed on similar topics before, and i guess
> we will here too.

tis ok.  we still get along quite well imo.

>has it occurred to anyone else here that maybe amy and emily want
>to experience this sort of festival for themselves??  it is entirely
>possible that they, like deb r, will find that the separated sub-areas
>at michgan arent to theri taste and they wouldnt return in the future.
>but perhaps amy and emily want to find out for themsevles.

of course amy and emily should be able to experience the festival for
themselves.  so let them go and experience it and not perform as part of
the entertainment.  the festival has a theme and those performing there
support the theme.  if they just wanted to experience and see what it's
like why not just attend and not perform.  i can't fault anyone for wanting
to do something different and experience something new, but ig have stated
their disapproval of the fest in the past and are renegging (sp?).  yes we
have the right to change our minds but ig are public figures who often say
they feel privileged to be in such a position to make such a difference in
ceratin causes through performances and concerts.  if they are going to use
their fame to support charities they are also going to have to take some
heat when using their performances and fame to support more controversial
events.
        i'll be the first to argue that they should be left alone and that
they're only human beings etc.  but since they are human beings, i disagree
with their support of this festival and as deb said--i am a consumer and
can now choose how i am going to support ig when they support something i
am against.  god bless america!

>who are any of us, really, as fans to decide
>for them what they should and shouldnt do with respect to this festival?

see above--we are consumers.  if ig played at a pro life benefit (please
let's not start an abortion debate) i would have similar issues.  as public
figures who perform to support causes we as fans and consumers are allowed
to have a opinions and reactions.  if they just attended (and walked around
in leather chaps) the festival i really wouldn't have much of an argument
about their going.

> they seem to want to attend.  why cant we let them?

because they are performing and supporting--not just attending.

>ok, greg...i'm really not sure what happened here.  i hardly think
>that\comparing michigan to racism is apt in any way. this is a serious
>stretch, and i would like to know how you can justify comparing
>michgian, essentially a festival of celebration (granting the
>separatist set up) to racism?  racism caused by an ignorant
>majority and genocide is hardly comparable to a one week long
>event allowing lesbians who want to partake of it to be have space
>separate from men.

ok, amy...i will tell you how it's comparable.  you say the festival is a
'celebration'.  i am sure that the white supremacists who have big meetings
and festivals feel they are 'celebrating' their race.  i know back when
jews were being torched it was a 'celebration' of being a nazi--the supreme
german nation-many felt killing all the jews was patriotic.  i am sure
those in charge at the time wouldn't have agreed with you calling them
ignorant. there are thousands of celebrations across the country to support
causes.  hispanic heritage days...chinese new year...gay pride parades...st
patty's day parades.  i could go on and on.  but these don't separate or
disallow someone from supporting the cause.  well st patty's day parades
don't allow gays to march but i am sure you would have a problem with that
as i do.  call it a celebration.  call it a festival.  call it safe.  it is
still discriminatory and separatist and therefore warrants a comparison to
the above.

> i am offended
>that you wold compare me, a lesbian who does like to partake of
>women only space when i can, with a genocidal racist.  i do not think
>every celebration of feminism should exclude men at all.  but this is
>about lesbian space probably more than women space.

now it's about lesbian space?  i thought it was women space.  who else
should we toss out of the group?  as pooh eloquently stated--the festival
is all sectioned off.  how much celebrating is going on when everyone is
scattered all over the place in their little safety nets.  sorry to offend
you but i am just as offended if not more that i am not allowed to go to
such a celebratory event.  but i still like you a whole lot.  ;)

>...i would feel
>very uncomfortable in a space designed for gay men only, but maybe thats
>just me.  and yes, i would be respectufl if there was a similar
>festival for gay men.

well i wouldn't.  i don't go to any all gay men's events unless it was some
kind of a therapy group but even then i feel it should be open to everyone.

and to sum up--i really don't know the first thing about what it feels like
to be a woman.  i have often been told i act like one but can't say i have
ever felt like one.  i can't say anything about the good feelings women get
by going  to this fest.  i wish the the world was safer and that everyone
felt safe all the time.  but shutting men out is just not the
answer--whether for a week, day or minute.  men aren't going anywhere.
we're here, we're male, get used to us.  :)  celebrate women's right,
women's freedom, women's whatever--but at least welcome the support of
anyone who agrees with the cause.

finally--i am not a hypocrite!   i am not just spouting out opinions and
then sitting on my ass.  i support causes and do my part.  see aids ride
and my job counseling children in crisis as proof.  i'm a fuckin saint :).
sorry the profanity slipped out.

hey pooh, what the hell are alligator clips?   ;-)

hey sus--nice to see you here.  i can't believe you and i are disagreeing.
what has the world come to?

flamer

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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 16:27:16 -0500
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these may have been posted already, but if not, here are the
ig dates that recently came from russell carter mgmt:

colleges-festivals-high schools

4/13    high school in southeast
4/14    gainesville, fl - univ. of fl.
4/16    chattanooga, tn
4/17    memphis, tn - univ. of memphis
4/18    starkville, ms - mississippi st.
4/19    fayetteville, ar - univ . of arkansas
4/21    lexington, ky - univ. of kentucky
4/23    dallas - voters for choice benefits
4/24    hanover, nh - dartmouth
4/25    new haven, ct - yale
4/26    carlisle, pa - dickinson college
4/27    new york, ny - virginia slam benefit
4/29    chapel hill, nc - unc
4/30    knoxville, tn -
5/1     atlanta, ga - midtown music fest
5/3     nashville, tn - river stages
5/4     high school in southeast
5/5     " "
5/6     " "
5/7     " "
5/8     " "

lillith fair

6/19    portland, or - medows
6/20    george, wa - the gorge
6/21    " "
6/23    san francisco, ca - shoreline amphitheatre
6/24    " "
6/26    san diego, ca - del mar fairgrounds
6/27    los angeles, ca - rose bowl
6/28    phoenix, az - desert sky
6/29    alberquerque or santa fe
7/1          tulsa or oklahoma city - mohawk or all sports
7/2          bonner springs, ks - sandstone amphitheatre
7/3          indianapolis, in - deer creek
7/5          columbus, oh - polaris amphitheatre
7/6          detroit, mi - pine knob
7/7          " "
7/8          tba
7/10    " "
7/11    " "
7/13    holmel, nj - pnc bank arts center
7/15    new york, ny - jones beach
7/16    " "
7/17    camden, nj - entertainment center
7/18    " "
7/19    columbia, md - merriweather post
7/21    virginia beach, va - va beach ampitheatre

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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 18:05:06 -0500
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>is there any kind soul ( or fool, depending on how you wanna
>look at it) who would be willing to put together a boot of the
>best recording of the best tunes of this tour.

i am considering making a "best of covers" cd.  i have several
boots that have them doing different cover songs.  i thought a
compilation boot might be cool.  :)


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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 18:26:14 -0000
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i know this has been discussed many times, but i can not seem to find the
dates of the festival again and where can tickets be purchased. is there
anyway we can form a group of folks from ohio to get together and go. i
have wanted to go for a couple of years, but i never could find anyone to
go with.e-mail me privately so it doesn't crowd the list. missy

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date:         mon, 23 mar 1998 12:05:22 +1200
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hey all,

a huge ig fan suggested to me that amy ray and neil finn (split enz,
crowded house) are actually one in the same person!

any comments?
lynda

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in a message dated 98-03-22 19:04:24 est, l1rw@telecom.co.nz writes:

<< amy ray and neil finn (split enz,
crowded house) are actually one in the same person! >>

i've heard the same about michael and janet jackson - after all, you never do
see them in the same place at the same time!  ;)

bon

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><< amy ray and neil finn (split enz,
> crowded house) are actually one in the same person! >>
>
>
>i've heard the same about michael and janet jackson - after all, you
>never do
>see them in the same place at the same time!  ;)


i think you mean latoya jackson dont you..? after all michael and janet did
do that music video...

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somebody wrote:
>>is there a chat room or channel where those of you at odds with each
other
about not only ig playing the mmwf, but the festival's existence itself,
could hash this out?<<

most of you probably know this already, byt there is a chat room on dal-net
called #indigo-girls.  it's usually not to busy, but it might provide a good
forum for this debate.  you will need an irc chat program to go there.
personally i recomend a program called mirc. you can download it for free,
so just search for it on the web!  if anybody wants to set up a specific
time and day, just post it to the list!   see y'all there!

chris wilson

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wow, i guess i forgot to take my medication that allows me to spell!  oh
well, better luck next time eh?  :)

chris wilson

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ok so i have gotten a lot of responses telling me what a good idea a bootleg
page would be...but only one person willing to give their url.  so....come on
everybody, i know there are people who wanna trade who are tired of posting
trading pleas to the list....this makes it a lot easier to find a trade....
so if you wanna be a part of it, lemme know : )

peace
sasha

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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 21:11:45 est
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enough of the fest.  i hope that people realize that there are people like me
who delete things with un-interesting or too-time-consuming subject lines (ie:
mmwf, or "last cd you listened to," etc) - and that these people don't add in
other, unrelated igc to those posts - because then the people like me miss
it!!  just checking...

so - can anyone identify the various people in the big picture in the "strange
fire" insert?  they are supposed to be family, friends, and the musicians on
the album, but i don't quite know who's who.  i'd really be interested to know
what amy's and em's families look like (there's that cute little shot of amy's
family in the living room on watershed, but it's pretty short...)

also, maybe this is a dumb question, but when ig concerts are gen. admission
does this always mean no seats and everyone crams in like sardines (and gets
to know their neighbors quite, quite well)? for my g/a ig experiences it's
been like this, but i was wondering if it always is...

and, in case anyone is wondering, there is a picture of the girls in some
recent issue of "american girl" (i think that's the name- it's a pre-teen
mag).  it's a pretty common picture - the one taken diagonally, they're kinda
serious-faced.  it was in one of those pubescent-girl articles like "all the
cd's you gotta have" - i thought it was funny (ha-ha funny and weird-funny)
sots was in there.  anyway.

ciao
~flora

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i'm so excited about going to see the girls on april 26!  bethany and i are
going to see them in carlisle, pa--who else is going?????

i know beth said that jill certo and some others, but i'd be curious to
know who all is going.  i think we should organize a little meet, so that
we can all hang out and meet each other, and marvel at the coolness of
getting to see the indigo girls.  gee, golly, could i sound any cornier?!
i'm usually not this cheezzzzzzy--maybe the tattoo ink is seeping into my
brain.

god, i can't even form a coherent sentence--who else is going to this
concert?!?!?!?!?!?!?

yayayayayayayayayay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


shannon

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hey kind friends!

        round 1 of this installment of ig jeopardy is winding to an end.
anyone who still wants to participate has until tuesday evening (3/24) to
send a response and then on to double jeopardy!

**categories: covers, related artists, just say no, ig songs, daemon records**

covers-
$100    *this train-revised* is based upon the song *this train* first
popularized by         this american folk legend?
$200    this popular ig tune was written by mark knopfler?
$300    amy covered this bob marley tune on tour last summer?

related artists-
$100    these "buggy" sisters performed on rop?
$200    he sings and plays harmonica on soy?
$300    emily's favorite joni mitchell song?

just say no-
$100    she thinks marijuana and hashish should be legalized?
$200    who said, "where are my drugs?", on the watershed video prior to
going onstage?
$300    amy consumed this alcoholic beverage while writing reunion?

ig songs-
$100    from what song is the line "pour the cement for my feet"?
$200    what song begins, "the thin horizon of a plan is almost clear"?
$300    what ig song is about "the edge of death"?

daemon records-
$100    the owner of daemon records?
$200    this name of the daemon sampler means "reverted to an untamed state
from         domestication"?
$300    amy sings the part of an alien on this daemon artist's record?

i       tony doolittle - houston, texas, usa            g
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g       us away to our extinction -  emily saliers      s
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i need the new edition of curve with the second half of the amy article.
someone was supposed to get it for me and didn't come through with it.
please, anyone, please help!

peace, harmony and indigo,

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and tigger, who had been hiding behind trees and jumping
out on pooh's shadow when it wasn't looking, said that
tiggers were only bouncy before breakfast, and that as soon
as they had had a few haycorns they became quiet and refined.
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date:         mon, 23 mar 1998 14:20:43 +1100
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subject:      sydney-area (katoomba) get together, april 5
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hey everyone,

this is going out to the indigo girls and dar williams lists
'cos heck, why not... :)

we're tentatively planning a get together up in the blue
mountains (near sydney, australia) for anybody and everybody
who wants to come.  it'll be on sunday april 5th, 1998 -
we're thinking maybe a picnic/bbq in a park, bring your own
food, grog etc... it should be a nice relaxing afternoon of
hanging out.

let me know if you're interested so i can get some idea of
numbers and start working out some details.  don't worry if
you don't have transport - we can arrange something, that
should be fine...

:)
sherlyn
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one:  i bought a swamp ophelia hat from a girl on the list, i've since lost
your name & address, wanted to know if my check arrived.

two:  the girl who did the penn state interview, i was getting ready to send
the tape to you, and i've lost your address too.

can you both email me???  :)

peace, harmony and indigo,

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in a message dated 98-03-22 21:24:23 est, sanawike writes:

<< [susie] bright describes as
   > "lilith vs. dyke-o-rama" >>

  this was a hilarious article on women's festivals for anybody who's
interested
   >>

i'd like to read that. >>

hey y'all, since a bunch of you have asked for this, i will tell you all that
i found it in the salon, which is a very cool site.  also, susie bright, the
author, has a website of her own, and you could probably reach it that way.
my advice would be to go to the susie bright archives in salon and search for
it.  they have an archive section for all their regular contributors.   it was
a really funny look at the lilith fair type of show compared with the hard
line "womyn's" music festivals.  she's a great and very sarcastic writer, who
i'm sure you'd all love.  happy hunting!

bon

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hey y'all sorry for nigc but i figure somebody inthis crowd will know the
answer to my question.

can anybody tell me how to subscribe to the sarah list?

thanks!

bon

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actually according to "broadcasting" an industry trade paper, buena vista
television
also known as disney, is still shopping the show to other networks..
the last show of the season , since it is not known if the show is coming
back... is good enough in their opinion to go out on.. lots of guests stars
etc..
whether or not abc decides to bring back "ellen" is is widely known that the
real ellen is not pleased with the handling of the show thus far.. so maybe it
would be better to let the show go on to antother network.. and my personal
opinion is that perhaps since the garry shandling show is ending it's run on
hbo, they will have a slot open for a new show.. can you say "ellen" ??? i
think that that would give the show the leeway it needs to deal with the
issues that it wants to and not have to worry about the censors.. just a
thought

emo

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once again, it's that time for me to make a plea for curve.  i've done
everyhting in my power except this searching for the second curve with amy.
is it too late to beg for one?  i'm willing to trade for boots and/or pay
the price of the mag. and shipping.  if there's anyone out there who hates
to see a ig fan suffer because of lack ig sources in her area, and has the
ability to help her out, please, reply.  thanks.
                                                   -kate

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around myself- in every moment and piece of matter.
everything is animate."   a. ray

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i am looking for sus

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y'all bantered:

>><< amy ray and neil finn (split enz,
>> crowded house) are actually one in the same person! >>

>>
>>i've heard the same about michael and janet jackson - after all, you
>>never do
>>see them in the same place at the same time!  ;)


dare i venture back to that eerie emily/fergie clone on the cover of sf?

shoot, i don't know which crowded housemate is finn...

jill

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speaking of emily clones, anyone a bonnie tyler fan (you know, "total
eclipse of the heart"). ain't the spitting image of em, but you gotta
admit a resemblance.

just a thought,
amy m.

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"women together is a powerful thing. especially when you join it with
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yearn for."
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flora asked:

>so - can anyone identify the various people in the big picture in the
"strange
>fire" insert?  they are supposed to be family, friends, and the
musicians on
>the album, but i don't quite know who's who.

okay, i just looked at mine, and i can tell you...
here-- look-- see em in her apron there? (that *is* em in the apron
there, isn't it?!)  okay, see the smiley man with the black tie sitting
directly in front of her?  that's her dad.

that's all i know for sure, but that's not gonna stop me from
speculating....
okay, at the same table as em's dad, see the woman with the thick
glasses?  i think she might be amy's mother.  now look at the table
ahead of that one... note the man sitting on the very edge of the
picture, diagonally in front of our maybe-amy's-mom.  i think he's amy's
dad.  they've got similar brows.  and hands.  okay, maybe not, but i
think so.  i notice hands.  and eyes.
as for the rest of the patrons, well... amy and em both have something
like three sibling apiece... mostly females.  so your guess is as good
as mine.  this is kinda like where's waldo, ya know?
jill again

p.s. for anyone actually following this... *who* is that a portrait of
on the front table to the left of the photo?  amy?  ???
p.p.s. i bet the woman sitting next to that portrait is amy's sister.
they've got the same noses.  really!
whoa, this is feeling kinda too much for me.  i need to go do...
something with my time.  really.
heh.

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there's two gals in there who have to be em's sisters. although i don't
have my cd, so i can't tell you exactly where they are, as jill did, but
look and you'll probably find them. they bear a striking resemblance to
em.

amy m.

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hey y'all-

i know that this will probably get lost in all of the mwmf chatter (and
i actually like that thread now that people are putting some thoughts
into what they are saying- so i ain't complaining), but i just wanted to
chime in and encourage everybody to chip in and help out in the birthday
project.  i helped do the first two we did (one for amy, one for emily)
and each time we raised over two thousand dollars ($2500 for amy's,
$2650 for emily's) as a community.  your money will go to a great cause
and it will be our little collective way of saying that we actually hear
the message that amy and emily try and relay to us.  you know, that
whole non-complacency thing????  ya, so i'm not going to be complacent
about this.  join in, pitch in however much *you* can afford ($5 is $5
more than they would have had).  just follow elizabeth's emailed
instructions (i'm sure she'll repost it sometime soon).
or you can email me, i'll track down elizabeth's post for ya.

love,
mandi

ps- sherlyn this question goes out to you- does the birthday project
info get sent to the news only list as well as the regular list?????
and if not could it be?

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it's about..hmm..3 hours from seattle(??) there are no hotels within walking
distance, but there will be camping.  it's a gorgeous venue...beautiful views,
but huge!  still, i'm going up there instead of seeing lilith at portland
meadows :p yuck.
~~jen

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>> >amy m. (see, i got it right this time!) threw in:

>> >speaking of emily clones, anyone a bonnie tyler fan (you know,
"total
>> >eclipse of the heart"). ain't the spitting image of em, but you
gotta
>> >admit a resemblance.

>>
>> whoa, now *that's* creepy!  em's a *triplet*!  who'd a thunk?!
>> jill yet again, marvelling at amy's recall of both that song and >>
bonnie tyler...

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>y'all bantered:
>
>>><< amy ray and neil finn (split enz,
>>> crowded house) are actually one in the same person! >>
>
i was cleaning out my old messages cuz hotmail is po'd again cuz i'm
2000 again...and i saw an old post about the idea that amy & axl rose
are one in the same.
hmmm
does amy just have a split personality disorder?
carol
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my carol ann !!! said:

>...the idea that amy & axl rose are one in the same.
>does amy just have a split personality disorder?
no, i think listees are just so insightful and inspired after listening
to so many years of ig, that we are all kind of amateur psychologists.
either that, or we just like paranormal phenomena.

p.s. hotmail's pissed cause you're 2000?  as in, 2000 messages?!

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alright, sorry to bother everyone, but after wandering around aimlessly for an
hour on the web, i just figured y'all are just so much more efficient.  okay, i
need to know if the uptown girls cd is just the audio from the video live at the
uptown lounge with a couple of studio recordings tagged on.  is there anything
new on this recording?  oh, and remind me *again*, is it a bootleg cd?  i can
never remember important stuff when i need it.  could someone help me out quick?
thanks...

marivel

jay leno: i gotta check out this tattoo. oh that's pretty!
           that looks indian to me.  is it?
amy ray: well yeah, the cross is a souix indian cross.
jay: are you part souix?
amy: no...
jay: but they're nice people so why not get the tattoo?

                 --tonight show (anyone have the date on this?)

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here's one, my husband swears that he's never seen michelle malone and
chris robinson of the black crowes in the same room together ;-)

smiles,
allison

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wow!  this is fun!  i think emilys mom is sittin right behind em's maybe
dad..just look at that jawline! jeez, the dad looks just like amy!  hey, i am
glad this is brought up.  this is way neato!      who else is that standing
with amy and emily?

erin

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at 09:28 pm 3/22/98 pst, jill certo wrote:
>flora asked:
>
>>so - can anyone identify the various people in the big picture in the
>"strange fire" insert?  they are supposed to be family, friends, and the
>musicians on the album, but i don't quite know who's who.
>
>okay, i just looked at mine, and i can tell you...
>here-- look-- see em in her apron there? (that *is* em in the apron
>there, isn't it?!)  okay, see the smiley man with the black tie sitting
>directly in front of her?  that's her dad.
>that's all i know for sure, but that's not gonna stop me from
>speculating....
>okay, at the same table as em's dad, see the woman with the thick
>glasses?  i think she might be amy's mother.  now look at the table
>ahead of that one... note the man sitting on the very edge of the
>picture, diagonally in front of our maybe-amy's-mom.  i think he's amy's
>dad.  they've got similar brows.  and hands.  okay, maybe not, but i
>think so.

        (from tony "doolittle")  i'm pretty sure that's not amy's dad.  he's
in the watershed video and looks much thinner than the man you id'd.

>p.s. for anyone actually following this... *who* is that a portrait of
>on the front table to the left of the photo?  amy?  ???

        i heard somewhere (?) that the pictures are of family & friends who
could not be there the day they shot the pic.
        the female sitting down just to the left of emily may be dede vogt -
just a guess, tho.
        that is amy with her arm extended toward emily, right? (the
mannequin)  the girl in the hat next to emily looks a lot like amy, maybe
that's one of her sisters??
        who's the gent standing next to amy - john keane?

tony

p.s. i think caroline aiken is somewhere in the photo, as well?

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hey folks,

this message is pretty much for australians only, since i don't
really have time to get into trading with lots of people in other
countries right now.  there will be north american boot tree
announcements for some of these tapes in a week or so though, so
everyone else - your patience is appreciated...

so, anyway.  i'm now ready to start making copies of some of the
australian tapes for australians and other people in the region
(ie the southern hemisphere).  the four main tapes are:

1. melbourne, feb 21 1998 - v.good/excellent
2. melbourne, feb 22 1998 - excellent
3. sydney, feb 26 1998 - good
4. sydney, feb 27 1998 - v.good/excellent

all these tapes are 100 minutes.  mail me if you want details
about how to get these - blank tape+ssae is my preferred
method but it's all negotiable...

tapes also exist for the other australian shows -
5. brisbane, feb 24 1998 - i have a copy of this and will dub
        it if people want it.  i'd probably rate it good/fair.
        copies would be 4th-generation, since i already sent
        the 2nd-gen version i had to the us...
6. adelaide, march 2 1998 - i don't have this yet but someone
        (me or someone else) will offer it sometime fairly soon.
7. perth, march 4 1998 - the person who has this should speak
        up!  (you know who you are. :)
8. canberra, march 6 1998 - i have this, but it's not ready to
        go yet - it needs cleaning up.  i'll post when it's
        ready.

hm, i think that's all.  mail me if you have questions folks.
and look for the north american tree information really
soon...

:)
sherlyn
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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 22:41:23 -0800
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> darn cool pooh commented:
> >..this too shall pass and we'll get onto more important things..
> >such as...
> >if amy were a bird..what truly makes her fly..

to which the simply mahvellous jill c. said:
> what makes her fly?
> sheer lesbian energy.  pride, baby.  heh.

i have to disagree here: not with the pride part, but emily -clearly-
tells her in "watershed" "you'll never fly as the crow flies/get used to
the country mile (and maybe i'm wrong but i'm too lazy to look it up. =)"
-- so if amy were a bird, she'd have to be a non-flier.  the logical
conclusion, drawn from the below as well: amy'd be a chicken. ;)


> who inspires her to fly?
> aw, come on...
> ...the chickenman, of course! har dee har har

just in case you were wondering. ;)
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date:         mon, 23 mar 1998 17:40:35 +1100
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hey folks,

for lynda, because it's monday, because i'm going home for
the day, and because i'm going insane...

on mon, 23 mar 1998, gi troop wrote:
> glad this is brought up.  this is way neato!      who else is that standing
> with amy and emily?

that's...  neil finn.

where's my medication? :)
sherlyn

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breath!
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> dissect them, criticize them, and laugh at them till they reach perfection.
> then we can get someone to take votes on who wrote the best ig poems (i'll
> volunteer for that.) after everyone has voted, we should take the top 10
> poems, get someone to write them out really nicely in caligraphy or
> something, and send them to amy and emily as a sign of our appreciation that
> they chose to play at a festival that excludes men. if you like my idea,
> please email me privately and we'll get it going. if you don't like my idea,
> please flame me publicly. thanks! happy writing everyone!
>
> jendy (who is, if you haven't figured it out already, being very sarcastic)
maybe i'm just being, well, silly here -- but i think this sounds kind of
neat?  write poems, criticise them, make them look beautiful -- and,
tah-dah!, it's a birthday/wow, y'all rock gift.  mebbe the motivation
isn't what's written above.  but it still strikes me as a cool idea. =)

if this was taken to private mail, please sign me on?
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hey listees,

you'll have to excuse sherlyn's ramblings and blantant incoherency, she
just hasn't been herslef lately (i've been messing with her mind too much
it seems).

and of course it can't be neil finn standing with a&e because like i said
amy and neil are one in the same person!!! same dress sense, same style
of song writing, same intense look and gee you never see them in public
together. and at the shawn colvin concert in nz last year, shawn just
fawned all over neil finn, it was quite cute too watch.

thought i'd just share that with yah'll and with sherlyn horsey hoof cloud
invaded bottle neck cook koo!
lynda

>>> sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au> 23/march/1998 06:40pm >>>
hey folks,

for lynda, because it's monday, because i'm going home for
the day, and because i'm going insane...

on mon, 23 mar 1998, gi troop wrote:
> glad this is brought up.  this is way neato!      who else is that standing
> with amy and emily?

that's...  neil finn.

where's my medication? :)
sherlyn

ps - take that, lynda, sheepnose parrot face penguin
breath!
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date:         sun, 22 mar 1998 23:46:34 pst
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>        (from tony "doolittle")  i'm pretty sure that's not amy's dad.
he's
>in the watershed video and looks much thinner than the man you id'd.

hmmm... well, maybe...
then again, maybe not.  no, that's *gotta* be him.  i'm looking at this
man, and then looking at a photo of amy (the sept. 97 acoustic guitar
player magazine cover), and they look very alike-- the same nose,
deep-set eyes, the line of the mouth.  that's got to be him.
maybe he lost weight.?


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>...i think emilys mom is sittin right behind em's maybe
>dad..
yeah, i think so too.  oh, btw, that's not em's *maybe* dad, that *is*
her father.  i've seen him before, on the emory u. theology page. (it
was late.  i was bored. go to www.emory.edu/candler/saliers.html and see
for yourself...)he looks like such a doofy, amiable guy.
jill

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it was queried:
>> who else is that standing with amy and emily?

sherlyn dropped the bomb:
>that's...  neil finn.

nooooooooo!!!!!  say it ain't so!!!!
it's a mirror, a mirror i tell ya, amy's standin' next to a mirr....

jill ;)


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on sun, 22 mar 1998, chris w. wrote:

> most of you probably know this already, byt there is a chat room on dal-net
> called #indigo-girls.  it's usually not to busy, but it might provide a good
> forum for this debate.  you will need an irc chat program to go there.
> personally i recomend a program called mirc. you can download it for free,
> so just search for it on the web!  if anybody wants to set up a specific
> time and day, just post it to the list!   see y'all there!

i've been on that channel several times in the last year and a half or so,
and from what i've seen it would appear to be completely defunct.   i've
not met more than one or two of the former regulars on there at any one
time, although someone has always changed the topic a day or so before
(presumably so the channel isn't de-registered).

mat

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> thought i'd just share that with yah'll and with sherlyn horsey hoof
cloud
> invaded bottle neck cook koo!

> ps - take that, lynda, sheepnose parrot face penguin
> breath!

        ladies, ladies, ladies!!!!

        ..........take it to private e-mail. ;-)

just asking for it,
ian c.

ps: where're my boots, you two?!?

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hello all!!

        for those of you who purchased tickets to the university of kentucky concert,
i am curious if any of you have received your tickets?  i purchased my tickets
the second day they went on sale and they said they would go out in the mail
that afternoon, but i have not received them as of yet?  how about the rest of
you?

        anyone still have the phone # just in case i need to call them and make sure
they have my order?

                        please e-mail me privately with responses!!

----------------------------------------------------------->thanks......an ig
junkie....nicole

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hey kind friends! :)

there's a restaurant near here called the original house of
pancakes with a waitress who looks and sounds exactly like
amy.  long hair, shape of face, that haunting voice, everything.

me, my sister and her boyfriend went in there this weekend
and we were all looking down at our menu when she came over and
said "welcome to the original house of pancakes, our special
today is <whatever>" and before she got that much out all
three of us looked up at her with this pronounced momentary
pause.

we stared at her long and deep enough to freak her out a little
because she started looking uncomfortable.  we looked at each
other and sortof gave that "wow, are you thinking what i'm
thinking look" and then we started laughing.  we talked about
it afterwards and we all thought exactly the same thing.  we
thought we were being served breakfast by amy ray!! :)

the first thing i looked for was a tatoo on her arm.  she had
her sleeves rolled up and i was like "no way, this isn't amy."
but, alas ... she is just one of the clones running around.
no tatoo... we didn't ask her about it either because i'm sure
she gets it all the time.  she'd have to.  it made for a very
interesting morning though... :)

just goes to prove my theory ... no matter where you go, indigo!

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hey,

i'm back from a lovely (ok, wet and cold) camping trip to nw georgia, where
gas was 87 cents a gallon and it took four hours to boil water. the park was
absolutely gorgeous - lots o waterfalls and scenic vistas.
so, my question: i remember reading or hearing that amy had written world
falls "camping up north". could that mean northern georgia? i had always
kind of assumed that when she said "i've slept in rainy canyonlands" she
meant canyonlands, utah, altthough it didn't rain much when i was camping
there...but now i think she was camping in cloud canyonland state park in
ga.. evidence?
1) "i've slept in rainy canyonlands/cold drenched to my skin" -me too! we
left a couple of days early cause some of my friends were too cold to stand
it anymore, but my gf and i had brought extra blankets (and we're from the
north and know how to layer)
2) world falls- waterfalls...
so, can anyone shed light on the subject? utah or georgia or "none of the
above-its symbolic, dummy"?

also, i'll be at dickinson (carlisle, pa) and would be interested in that
list meet somebody mentioned...i don't know if  it was mentioned on this
list this week (it was on the mm list) - michelle malone is opening at that
show!  yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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well guys.....i have some really sad news...here's a little history...the
members of lift in the last few months hooked up with some rather big time
producers.  unfortunately as a result of that relationship, molly and
simone decided to fire dave and...believe it or not..julie from the band.
i guess you can't really call lift a band anymore.
on a personal note...i'm letting you guys know this because i'd like to
hear from you...what do you all think about this turn of events?..will you
continue to follow the band or see them live?...or is a big part of the
draw gone for you now?  i know it is gone for me. i know there are tough
decisions to be made in the music industry...but to destroy the essence of
what got you to where you are in the first place?  it's unfathomable, imho.
thought you guys would want to know.  thanks for listening.
please respond to me privately.
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date:         mon, 23 mar 1998 08:31:09 -0700
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ok for all those who are new, or are coming off spring
break, funding for amy's birthday needs serious help!
all the info is here:
http://members.tripod.com/~indigoempire/projamy.html

if you don't have web access, let me know and i'll send
you the info by hand.  we don't have much time here,
folks, so let's get those checks in the mail this week before
i leave for chiapas.  remember to send me your full name
and amount you are sending as the check goes out!

as always, email me with questions or comments.

elizabeth from denver

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date:         mon, 23 mar 1998 10:53:39 -0500
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hi y'all!

well, i'm back from san francisco.  i can not say i am happy to be back...
if anyone knows anything about u cal at berkeley, please e-mail me,
because i am seriously thinking about trying to transfer.  it was just so
nice to be in a liberal environment, ya know?  anyway, i think i belong in
san francisco...

anyway, a few ig moments:  first of all, i found the warfield.  i was
laughing because i saw the "adult establishment" next door that marivel
made the signs about... :-)

secondly, i was in berkeley and this woman noticed my ig hat and said "i
may be on their next album cover".  she says that she was standing outside
of the warfield and some photographer was shooting pictures for the album
cover.  does anyone know about this?  is it true?  will their next album
cover contain a picture of san francisco?

not related to san francisco, but even though i am very upset that the
show at my school was cancelled, i was very glad to see that the girls are
playing at a pro-choice benefit.  i just wish i could go...

okay, that's all for now...

:-) karen

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whoops..sorry about that -- i'm feeling kinda frisky today. ;)
i wanna know who's goin' to be at the dickenson show! :) i'm so freakin'
pumped i could die -- i know the rest of ya' are too. ;)
i think we should organize a list meet -- early enough, so that  we can
get kick ass seats. ;)  anyone from that area know a good place to get
togetha?!  let's get it on, people! :)
oh beloved amy and emily, we will be seeing you very soon. :)
ha!

-bethany :)

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date:         mon, 23 mar 1998 09:39:48 -0800
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anybody out there with info on when/where tix for west coast (sp. sf)
litlth dates go on sale?

thank you kindly,
lisa

p.s.  michelle malone in sf this wed.!! is this at bottom of the hill?
anybody know?

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hey yall...
dunno if this was mentioned, but i believe that is russell carter, the man we
all love *so dearly* (i am only a little bitter, but thats another story
entirely) in the very front with the guy with a flat top....  and the girl
behind him has to be em's sister, they have the exact same smile... ok
enough...

peace
sasha

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subject:      tour dates/locations panic!

i too got the postcard from russel carter/the fan club (funny thing, i got it
3 different times at the same mailing address and some people seem to be
having so much trouble getting anything from the fan club...go figure!) and i
am just sick not to see any lilith or other dates for mn or wi!  help!  do you
think this means they are just not coming this way or are there more dates to
come?  as much as i loved lilith the last time around and can't wait to go
again, i just can't imagine going and not having ig there!  can anyone shed
any light on this dilemma?  thanks tons...

pam w-d from minnesota

p.s.  sue!  chandra and i loved the tape you sent of the chicago concert!!!!!
thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!  we listened to it and re-lived it all
again last weekend and it was great!  i think i maybe even heard myself :)

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in looking at all these lilith fair dates, isn't it weird that they're playing
every show except the july 12th one at hartford !?!!!?????!?!??!?!

what's up with that ??????????????

chris

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hey--
can anyone tell me how much lilith fair tix were last year?
thanks, leslie

+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+
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emily saliers line of the week:

"not content to bow and bend to the whims of culture that swoop like
vultures, eating us away to our extinction"
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wow! that oldish guy on the far right of the picture looks just like amy
(nose, eyes, mouth, hands, you get the picture...) - i never noticed that
before.  and, you know what, the woman on the far left, with her chin in her
hand in a thoughtful pose, looks a lot like amy too. same eyes.  isn't it
cute, they put their grandparents in the picture!?!  but i am dying to know
who that woman next to amy's maybe dad is, the blond one who looks like some
sort of early-80's cover girl...?  and that sorta southern hunk in the front,
to the left of the maybe-rc, is he amy's brother, d'you think?
and yes, the people in the picture frames are family members who couldn't make
it that day (says so in the faq).

amy and emily are so wonderful - how many other musicians do you know who
would use up a whole page of their insert for their families?  (and how many
other fans would agonize over which family member is which!?! oh well...)

~flora

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sheelah at tufts: i need your address to send those tori tapes. i
think my g/f threw them out.

-heather

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subject:      re: heres a new thread : neil finn

well, they do look a bit similar, and i suppose sometimes they do
write about similar things, but that's about it....

john.


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the torment is being in."

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hi everyone,

does anyone have dar williams tour info they could share w/ me?
specifically, her webpage has a concert listed for 4/10 in madison at the
barrymore theater, but ticketmaster has no info on this concert.  does
anyone know anything about this concert...when tickets go on sale, if it's
really happening, etc?

please reply privately to:
cheryl@discover-net.net

thanks!
cheryl thiede

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the girl
>behind him has to be em's sister, they have the exact same smile...

now who is the absolutely pretty woman in the dress seated next to amy's
dad?  could that be another saliers sister?  those big eyes...
jill


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hey, i have 2 questions for anyone who can answer them:

1)  does anyone know about the #indigo-girls on irc?  how do you get
there?  i downloaded pirch, but i don't know how to find this room.....

2)  does anyone have any more information on the high schools that amy
and emily are going to?  such as how you get ticket, etc, etc.... one of
the high schools mentioned that they are doing a concert at is the high
school i went to, so it would be incredible if i could get tickets.

thanks so much for the help,
sharon

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hey y'all! the tickets for the april 14th show in gainesville will be going
on sale this friday at 11:00 a.m., according to the o'connell center ticket
office.

jendy

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hi!  does anyone know any more details about the dallas show april 26th?
like what kind of show this is...a benefit?  a lilith warm-up?  also, is
the line-up confirmed?  i heard shawn, nanci, ig and graham nash.

any info would be appreciated.  e-mail privately.  thanks!

justin

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is anybody on this list planning to go see the indigo girls at dartmouth
college on april 24th??? please email me privately if you are.
love, peace, indigo power,
~alyssa

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sorry dar-listers, but i thought the ig list would want this too.
                            stephanie

> i am aware that there has been much discussion about the upcoming lilith
> fair cd.  i thought that you might be interested in the track list:
>
> suzanne vega - "rock in this pocket"
> abra moore - "four-leaf clover"
> paula cole - "mississippi"
> lhasa - "el payande"
> sarah mclachlan - "building a mystery"
> indigo girls - "scooter boys" (tentative)
> autour de lucie - "sur tes pas"
> the cardigans - "benit"
> september 67 - "the lonliness of the long distance runner"
> dar williams - "what do you hear in these sounds"
> tara maclean - "jordan"
> joan osborne - "ladder"
> emmylou harris - "going back to harlan"
> meridith brooks - "wash my hands"
> patty griffin - "cain"
> wild strawberries - "i don't want to think about it"
> susanna hoffs - "eternal flame"
> shawn colvin - "trouble"
> young chen lamo - "lamo dorje chang"
> tracy bonham - "the one"
> wild colonials - "charm"
> lisa loeb - "falling in love"
> victoria williams - "periwinkle sky"
> jewel/s. mclachlan/indigo girls - "the water is wide" (note: may be
> substituted with version by s. colvin/s. maclachlan/indigo girls)
>
> as you may also know, the cd is scheduled to be released on april 28.
>
>
>

stephanie lynne merhar
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there's this gal who comes to my hang-out every once in a while.  we were
watching this ig thing on tv and she says to me "i was in a record store one
day and someone came up to ask me my name.  she looked suprised and said that
i looked exactly like emily saliers from the indigo girls.....i didn't even
know who the indigo girls were then!"  i just looked at her and said "well,
that girl wasn't lying....you look just like her!"  we laughed :)   now every
time i see her, i call her emily. heheh.

oh well, i'm not suprised. not a week goes by when someone doesn't come up to
me and ask me if "so and so" is my sister...or if i *am* "so and so".  i must
have a twin in every state!

~miz*

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hey everyone! sorry for the nigc but i was wondering if anyone from the north
ohio area was planning on attending michelle malone's concert on april 15 ??
i just wanted to see if any fellow indigoheads were gonna make it out there.
email me privately please if you are gonna attend! :) thanks!
peace,
jenn

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can someone please tell me how to subscribe to the news-only list again? i
forgot. sorry!

thanks a bunch!
dana

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hello everyone. i am new to indigo girls list and this is my first email
to it. i was on irc today and went into #indigo-girls room. the 3 people
in there were very very rude to me for no reason. i suggest people not
go int there because they are very rude. i am a fan and i went in to
there to ask questions about the girls music and they had nothing to say
but rude things to me. i don't know about you but i will not be treated
like that. they laughed at me, called me stupid, and made me feel really
bad about myself. i suggest we make another channel somewhere else
wherte people can feel free to tlak to other people about the girls
without being made to feel stupid and put down. i thought that fans of
the indigo girls would be very nice because they enjoy the music of the
girls and the message they put out but the fans on irc are not. they are
not true fans. they are rude people. thank you for listening and if youi
want set up a new channel on irc with me about the indigo girls, email
me at emilioh98@hotmail.com. thank you and go indigo girls!

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         <<- - - - - - - - - - - - music - - - - - - - - - - - ->>
         in a precursor to this year's lilith fair, lisa loeb
         has joined sarah mclachlan for a series of concert
         dates from now through mid-april. the tour stops in
         asheville, nc, this tuesday, and the dates announced
         take them as far west as idaho (colorado, ohio). in
         other news on loeb, sister screenwriters amy and lisa
         kohn have written a script about a girl who becomes
         so obsessed with the singer that she starts to believe
         she is loeb. as for lilith fair news, rocktropolis
         allstar news reports the ladies of lilith are expected
         to appear in an eight-page levi strauss ad in an
         upcoming issue of vogue. a representative for
         mclachlan had no comment on the ad, but '98 lilith
         performer mary lou lord's management confirmed lord is
         definitely participating.
         http://www.geffen.com/lisa-loeb
         http://www.allstarmag.com


         gary oldman appears on late show with david letterman
         this friday night on cbs, in promotion of the release
         of lost in space next week. also appearing on the show
         is musician ani difranco.


         the season, and possibly series finale of ellen was
         recently taped, and the hour-long episode guest stars
         woody harrelson, glenn close, richard benjamin, linda
         ellerbee, phil donahue, and bea arthur, in addition to
         the previously-reported helen hunt, tim conway, cindy
         crawford, ted danson, and mary steenburgen.

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hey kind friends,

this has prob. been mentioned in the discussion of just who is who on the
strange fire insert-  but a while back when amy and emily were in people
magazine there was a picture of amy with both her parents. seeing it, it is
clear to me that yes, her mom and dad are present for the sf picture at the
diner.

and to jill who had amy serving her breakfast at the i-hop, all i can say is
i'm jealous. why don't these things ever happen around here?

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hey everyone.. this was sent to me from a friend of mine
>>>> together they found guitar player david patterson who adds a
shimmering, orchestral quality found weaving throughout lift's surging
explosive sound. the final addition was talented bass player and backing
vocalist julie clark rounding out lift's unique sound with pulsating
rhythms and soothing harmonies.

so yeah, you can find a new guitarist and yes, you can find a new bass player,
but it will never be the same, and it will never be as good as it was.

i would have to agree with both cheri and phish, they can call it whatever
they want but it is gone..
thoughts? comments?
since all anyone seems to be discussing is who was in a picture taken ten
years ago i thought i would throw this into the mix.. cuz even though cheri
asked for private email  i would like to know what everyone thinks..
emo

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oh and any flames regarding the ten year old picture comment can be sent to me
privately...

thnx
emo

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hi folks,

i'm not sure what you've heard, but we want to let you know that the personnel changes in the band were necessary in order to move the music forward.  we will continue to be proud and positive about the music lift did before this point - julie clark and david patterson are talented people.  we have, over the three + years of playing together, grown at different rates and in different directions.  it's a creative endeavor and these things happen.

however, since some people have asked "what's ahead for lift?" we wish to say that first
and foremost, the music and passion behind it will remain consistent with what
you've heard from us before.   we had no desire to end what "was" lift, but it was a turn we
felt we had to take in order to continue to find inspiration to create the type of music we envision.

sometimes change isn't the most pleasant thing, but sometimes it's necessary.  as for the
future,  we'll be making music as always, for what we feel are the right reasons!

your friends,
molly and simone
lift

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date:         mon, 23 mar 1998 17:56:11 pst
reply-to:     amy and sara the indigo fans <indigofans@hotmail.com>
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hey everyone...

  this is amy and sara...we are new to this mailing list...but just
thought we would e-mail and tell everyone to check out this nifty indigo
girls page...it takes a few minutes to load...but be patient, it's
pretty cool.
http://members.wbs.net/homepages/a/r/e/areallycoolindigogirlpage.html
tell us what you think !
~ all with hope
amy and sara

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date:         mon, 23 mar 1998 18:03:19 -0800
reply-to:     skagirl <reposa@scf-fs.usc.edu>
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i'm leaving on friday for a long ride home for my sisters 19th
birthday...im getting a car with a cassette player, so i want to make a
tape of ig songs....i was wondeering what everyone think i should put on
it....i especially need loud songs for night driving..thanks!!


                          have an indigo day!

                                always,
                                   jeanette
            http://members.tripod.com/~jeanettelynn/jeanette.html
                             (trades, me, etc.)

             ***************************************************
                so what is love then, is it dictated or chosen
                does it sing like the hymns of 1000 years or is
                it just pop emotion 'and if it was ever here and
                it left does it mean it never was true?
                                 emily sailers
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date:         mon, 23 mar 1998 21:13:49 est
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in a message dated 98-03-23 10:53:57 est, ccigfan@mindspring.com writes:

<< well guys.....i have some really sad news...here's a little history...the
members of lift in the last few months hooked up with some rather big time
producers.  unfortunately as a result of that relationship, molly and
simone decided to fire dave and...believe it or not..julie from the band.
i guess you can't really call lift a band anymore. >>

i'd just like to add my expression of shock here... in a four-member band...
to fire two of the members and think you're just gonna go on the same???  i
don't think so....  whether i'll still follow them will depend on whether or
not the quality of music remains the same/goes up....  this sucks.

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
    -  president, grlchasr26 fan club
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"now that's a very good idea, piglet," said pooh.  "we'll
practise it now as we go along.  but it's no good going
home to practise it, because it's a special outdoor song
which hasto be sung in the snow."
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hey you know...i've had a hard time finding any personal pages or
pictures of michelle..does anyone know of any???

lamia

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someone had mentioned in an earlier post that in an article people magazine
had done a while ago, amy is pictured with her parents....what year/issue was
that article in?  anyone? i'd love to know...
thanks,
leslie m

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if you are as shocked and upset about the news of julie & dave's firing from
the band as most of the people i've talked to are, why don't you email what
remains of lift and let them know how you feel about it:   lift@mindspring.com

sorry to take up bandwidth and all that fun stuff, but from what i've heard
there are a lot of people that have a strong opinion on this, and it would be
best if it was directed to the correct people.

thanks!
lisa

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hey cool homepage, some great stuff there, but kissing the bus...??? ok
so 2 hours freezing in the cold would tend to make one a tad nutty, but
didnt your lips freeze onto the bus?
thats one to add to the "you know if your obsessed with ig when..." list...
hmm anyone think of any more? i seem to remember a list floating around
on the net somewhere can anyone tell me where...

bye-e,
lynda

>>> amy and sara the indigo fans <indigofans@hotmail.com>
24/march/1998 01:56pm >>>
hey everyone...

  this is amy and sara...we are new to this mailing list...but just
thought we would e-mail and tell everyone to check out this nifty indigo
girls page...it takes a few minutes to load...but be patient, it's
pretty cool.
http://members.wbs.net/homepages/a/r/e/areallycoolindigogirlpage.html
tell us what you think !
~ all with hope
amy and sara

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in a message dated 98-03-23 21:48:47 est, you write:


if you are as shocked and upset about the news of julie & dave's firing from
the band as most of the people i've talked to are, why don't you email what
remains of lift and let them know how you feel about it:   lift@mindspring.com

sorry to take up bandwidth and all that fun stuff, but from what i've heard
there are a lot of people that have a strong opinion on this, and it would be
best if it was directed to the correct people.

and i also suggest that you carbon coppy the note to the folks at daemon...

tune

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hey y'all..
i just wanted to take a second and reply to the note sent by the remaining
members of what used to be lift.

molly and simone write :

>>however, since some people have asked "what's ahead for lift?" we wish to
say that first and foremost, the music and passion behind it will remain
consistent with what you've heard from us before.   we had no desire to end
what "was" lift, but it was a turn we felt we had to take in order to continue
to find inspiration to create the type of music we envision.
sometimes change isn't the most pleasant thing, but sometimes it's necessary.
as for the future,  we'll be making music as always, for what we feel are the
right reasons!

yeah, and the "right" reasons are making money.. not sticking with the people
that have helped you get to where you are..
let me say that this is what the true reason for this "facelift" is.  to put
it in indigo perspective.. how would we feel if some big time producer told
amy, " hey you are pretty talented and we are willing to pay you lots of money
to do this project,  but you need to get rid of emily, there is just something
about her we don't like..
now, being the fair and upstanding human being that amy is.. we could bet
money that she would say no, this is a package deal, take us both or you get
neither.
so i tell you .. take whatever the remaining  members of "lift say with a
grain of salt.. we all know that changes happen,  but what does it say for
people when they are willing to leave their bandmates.. the people that
created the sound, behind because someone waves cash in their face.. frankly,
these are the  kinds of people i could do without.. and i am sure that when
all is said and done, the true colors of molly and simone will be shown.
and i would bet that the color would be green!!!

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in a message dated 98-03-23 22:07:35 est, you write:

> and i also suggest that you carbon coppy the note to the folks at daemon...


lift is no longer under contract to daemon for new recordings.  they had
nothing to do with this decision.

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ndygotiggr wrote:

> i'd just like to add my expression of shock here... in a four-member band...
> to fire two of the members and think you're just gonna go on the same???

well, really, it has been done.  look at ellen james society... cooper &
chris remained the frontwomen and... thru many backing changes... they
kept the overall sound consistent.

but, i really think that this particular band... well, yeah, if they
loose these 2 members... the band won't be the same.  and it is
disappointing for someone who was just starting to really get into their
music!

later,
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in my last letter i said:

<<lift is no longer under contract to daemon for new recordings.  they had
nothing to do with this decision. >>

several things have been pointed out to me that show me that i could be wrong
about this.  lifelike *is* on the daemon label.  and i'm sure they still have
a large interest in the band.

please ignore my above comment and make the decision based on your own heart,
whether you want to email daemon or not.  but you should definitely email
lift@mindspring.com

sorry once again for the lack of ig content!!!
lisa

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first my beloved lift cd is lost with the rest of my cd wallet... and now lift
is going through a bit of an evolution.....

yikes! i feel my karma off kilter....

:::sigh:::

my best to molly, simone, julie and dave... you four don't deserve to have any
outsiders criticize your decisions... may you each continue to play great
music ...

kate

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i am unable to access the lf website.  does anyone know when the tickets go on
sale for the lf west coast dates (specifically california)?

thanks in advance--
cheryl

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on mon, 23 mar 1998, emilio hellerman (emilioh98@hotmail.com) wrote:

> hello everyone. i am new to indigo girls list and this is my first email
> to it. i was on irc today and went into #indigo-girls room. the 3 people
> in there were very very rude to me for no reason. i suggest people not
> go int there because they are very rude. i am a fan and i went in to

<balance deleted for space>

i hate to have to reply to this on the list, but i wanted to address the
issues presented. all followups should be done via private mail as i am
not currently subscribed to the list itself. if you are looking to start a
flamewar, just delete this now.

as an operator on the indigo girls channel on dalnet (#indigo-girls). i
have a few comments to make and a few questions. first off, what irc
network were you on? there are currently over 30 irc networks. if you were
on the dalnet #indigo-girls channel, which is considered the original (it
resided on efnet for many years before moving to dalnet 2 or 3 years ago)
i would like you to e-mail me privately with the nicknames of the people
you feel were rude to you. i would also like to know if these people were
operators (@ by their nickname on most irc clients).

irc users need to note that anyone can join an irc channel and that
operators are not around 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, some people like
to cause problems and it's not uncommon for someone to come into a channel
just to cause problems. this was one of the reasons for moving the channel
to dalnet a few years ago. dalnet has user services that help prevent, but
do not eliminate this.

as to your suggestion that people not go to an established channel because
you feel you were mistreated, i would ask each person base their own
judgements upon personal experience. you are always welcome to form your
own channel, that is one of the great things about the irc network. if you
are basing your opinions upon the misunderstanding of a conversation,
network lag, or other problems novice irc users sometimes have, i suggest
you try again at some point. i'm not saying that what you said did not or
could not happen but based on many years experience with the channel i can
say it would be uncommon.

if you were on another irc network.. then by all means come over to dalnet
and drop in.. a server list is available at http://www.dal.net

anyone who has any questions or comments may e-mail me directly at
woods@mail.msen.com or can find me most evenings on dalnet (and many other
irc networks) using the nick coax. please remember i'm not on this list so
if you feel you must respond here, please send me a carbon copy if you
want a reply.

also, i'm not the channel founder, nor do i directly control who is an
operator. i'm just a long time user and operator who wanted to address the
issues presented.

i hope this clears a few things up for everyone.

nic


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ps> sherlyn: sorry for the long post.

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can someone give me the web site address again for the womans feast. i have
checked every letter that i have and can not find it anywhere. very much
appreciated for your help on this. missy

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hello. you asked me many questions and i hope to answer them all. i was
on dalnet when i went into #indigo-girls. the people who were there said
they were operators but they did not have the @ next to there name til
later on. there nicknames were bsoph motor and another girl who was kind
of nice and said she was not insulting me. i forgert her name

you say that i should not base my decision on one time being in the
channel. well i had emails from many other people who have been on the
channel and they say that people are rude, do not want to talk about the
indigo girls do not like the list and are not will to let other people
come in and start up conversation. i was not lagging with those people.
i want to start another channel but i do not know how. if anyone wants
to start a new indigo girls channel where we can all like each other and
be nice and talk about the girls please email me.

emilio hellerman

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>can someone give me the web site address again for the womans feast.

whoa!!  women's *feast*?!  i knew there was a *fest*, but a feast too?!
this is just unbelievable!!!  ;)

jill ;p

p.s. heather my luv, bring the whipped cream.

p.p.s. bethany, the cherries.

p.p.p.s. carol ann, the pineapple rings!

anyone else who wants to join, feel free... so *this* is what we're
doing at the mwmf listgathering?!

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i love reading the post on this list they are rather interesting. they help
get me through my lonely day. i spend a lot of time alone or avoiding my
parents. you might say i am in a place where hope is no more. wrong i am in
a place where hope is somewhere around the bend or in another place. i do
not write anymore, because i have no inspiration left. i keep quitting
things that should be finished and i pretend that everything at home is
fine. i try not to stir up conflict, but i sometimes always do. in this
time of being so lonely. it is hard not to have any friends. no one to talk
to so you try and figure out what you have done wrong to be put in this
predicament. i have seen so much hate that i am being to feel that their is
no love in the world. the only thing that gets me through the days are the
indigo girl music. i have been listening to 1200 curfews. i love their live
music and shaming of the sun album. thanks for listening if you read all
the way through if not oh well. missy

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hey y'all! i wanted to comment on all the stuff emilio was saying about the
kind folks in #indigo-girls. i'm not a regular on the channel by any means,
but i do stop by there occasionally and have gotten to know a few people,
all of whom have always been very courteous to me. the only way i can fathom
any of them having a negative reaction to a person on the channel is if that
person comes in with a negative attitude. emilio didn't give us any
specifics, so i have to conclude that he either misinterpreted whatever was
being said to him, had a negative attitude from the start, or stumbled into
a conversation he didn't understand.

maybe emilio expected that being in a channel about the indigo girls would
yield endless discussion about amy and emily. the truth is, and i think we
see this on the list from time to time, you can't talk about the girls 24
hours a day!! especially in a chat format where people get to know each
other. people who are there on a day-to-day basis get sick of questions such
as "what is your favorite ig song/album?" or "what do you think of amy's
hair?" discussions get worn out and things get really old after rehashing
them over and over again. one can't expect to go in there at any time of the
day and find people talking about amy and emily. it just won't happen.

my point is, don't take emilio's comments as fact. go in there and see for
yourselves, but don't expect endless chat about the indigo girls. irc is, in
a way, a microcosm of real life, and in real life we don't talk about the
indigo girls 24 hours a day.

my .087462 cents,

jendy

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it's michelle malone. =)  peace, sarah

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hey y'all new yorkers, i've got a favor to ask....
i am drving to the city from cleveland (yea, i'm nuts)..
herein lies my problemo:
a) i'm clueless.  that is obvious in half my posts.  hee!
b) i have no parking space.  yeah, i know, join the club, eh?

can you help me?!  either uhm maybe meet me and show me around (yeah,
i'm meeting someone there, but i want to meet listees!!!) and/or help me
find parking space.  i've gotta dock my rental car for three nights and,
seeing as how i'm clueless (see 'a', above), i really really honestly
don't know where for the love of god to park the bugger.  any travel
tips would be appreciated too.
if you're a student, this would be especially nice-- maybe you can help
me find a student lot to rest my economy 2-door in.
*anyway*, email me.  please?  you know i love you.  i love ya baby.  i
swear.  pleeeeese!  i really need your assistance, guys.  i'm not
joking, brother.

email asap... i'm leaving tuesday afternoon...
lovies,
jill

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hey y'all! i just found out from a friend who works at the o'connell center
that the concert in gainesville on april 14th is a general admission show.
the tickets are $6.00 and go on sale this friday at 10:00 a.m., not 11:00
a.m. as i originally posted. 6 bucks almost seems too good to be true. any
locals (or anyone else for that matter) know why it's gonna be so cheap?
this will be the first time i will have seen them under $15. still no word
on who the opening band is though, but i'll post as soon as i find out. later!

jendy

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at 10:14 am 3/23/98 , cheri carter wrote:
>well guys.....i have some really sad news...here's a little history...the
>members of lift in the last few months hooked up with some rather big time
>producers.  unfortunately as a result of that relationship, molly and
>simone decided to fire dave and...believe it or not..julie from the band.
>i guess you can't really call lift a band anymore.

while the reasons behind the changes may be an issue, i'm not going to make
any assumptions about that based on the speculation that's been presented.
if julie and dave themselves said it was a mercenary action, i'd still feel
i wasn't sufficiently close to the situation to accept any one side.  so,
from a purely objective point of view:

molly and simone started the band.  they write all the songs. molly's the
lead vocalist.  i think you have to consider molly and simone the core of
lift, no matter how much you like julie and dave.

after all, there's no doubt that jerry and sara are a part of the ig band,
but amy and emily still stand on their own, they are recognized as the
essential part of the band "indigo girls".  i don't think it's fair to deny
molly and simone the same respect just because the sound they wanted always
required additional musicians, and they made what is essentially a
marketing decision in incorporating those musicians into a band.

again, i am not making any judgement about the nature of the split, because
i don't have, and probably will never have, enough information to do so. i
am just suggesting that molly and simone are the heart of lift, and that i
expect lift to go on in much the same way as it has thusfar.  and i
certainly hope julie and dave move on to bigger and better things.

this seems like a good opportunity to put in another plug for the atlanta
music list, where this discussion really belongs.  to subscribe, send the
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>molly and simone started the band.  they write all the songs. molly's the
>lead vocalist.  i think you have to consider molly and simone the core of
>lift, no matter how much you like julie and dave.

i'm more surprised than anything else.  the few times i've seen them
play, i've felt that the only thing that raised them above the oh-hum
band category was dave patterson's guitar work.

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march 17
skwan@midway.uchicago.edu (susanna kwan)
happy 20th, sue!
"gotta get outta bed, get a hammer and a nail, learn how to use my hands, not
just my head, cuz i'll think myself into jail"

march 21
carrieb@gladstone.uoregon.edu (carrie christine brogoitti)
happy 25th, carrie!

march 24
pjhoopie@aol.com (pj)
happy 34th, pj!
"i come to you with strange fire, i make an offering of love, the incense of my
soul is burned by the fire in my blood"

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on mon, 23 mar 1998, jill certo wrote:

> the girl
> >behind him has to be em's sister, they have the exact same smile...
>
> now who is the absolutely pretty woman in the dress seated next to amy's
> dad?  could that be another saliers sister?  those big eyes...
> jill
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gotta be another saliers, that's my humble (or not so) opinion.

:0)

amy m.

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hey everyone,

did you know that the indigo girls are working on another video? i asked
them at their concert if they were going to be making any more and they
said there was one in progress.  just thought i would let you all know.
does anyone have any other videos besides watershed and live at the
uptown lounge? thanks
all with hope~
amy

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alright....since i was on the channel at the time emilio stopped
by....let me clear things up a bit...or at least let you look at things
from the perspective of the people who were there.....i came into the
channel to a person i'd never seen before who suddenly had ops and had
changed the topic on the channel....so i asked him who he was and kinda
wondered why he had ops....we have had problems with people taking
over...or excuse me, trying to take over the channel before and i was
just curious as to why he had ops.....he then got all defensive about it
and started yelling profanities at us etc....so what were we to think
except that he was just some guy trying to take over?  he then said that
he was from the list and was going to post to the list about how rude we
were etc etc.....so in my opinion it was just a huge
misunderstanding....i've been around on #indigo-girls for about 3 almost
4 years now and if you ask anyone, i do not make a practice of
immediately insulting people or being rude......so i ask you to look at
things and see that this was a huge misunderstanding....at least from my
point of view.....if you feel the need to flame, please do it via private
mail.....

peace,
janice

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just wanted to let people in the b'more/dc area know that danielle howle is
gonna be playing the black cat this friday (troy from the band told me that
its gonna be her solo, but i haven't been able to find out what time yet) as
part of the simple machines fest.
and of course, the black cat is the place to be on april 2 for sonia's
show...(shameless plug-you're welcome, sasha) :)

sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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hey folks!~~~~

thought y'all might be interested to know that this week vh1 is
replaying the hard rock live with shawn colvin and mary chapin
carpenter.  it already aired once, on sunday night at midnight, and
should air three more times maybe tonight (tuesday) at 7 pm est (?)
and definitely saturday at 7 pm and midnight est.  i believe the west
coast gets a delayed feed so the times are probably the same.

also this past weekend shawn was on abc in concert with paula cole and
jonatha brooke and did a skin tingling acoustic rendition of "get out
of this house".  i'm very sorry now that i only taped paula's songs to
save time on my tape :(

btw here's something i thought was a bit funny.  not only is there an
indigo restarant in honolulu, there is also the new club indigo.  the
ad in the paper announcing the grand opening said "lots of new girls!"
he he he


lori ann


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hey y'all!

if you check out pollstar on the web, our girls are touring all over and
anyhoo...i got a ticket for the harrisburg show!!

miss you guys!

peace,  karen

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always remember, that everyone has a reason for changing their plans...
i am sure you have done the same in your own life....


on mon, 23 mar 1998 21:46:15 est memememi@aol.com (memememi) wrote:

>if you are as shocked and upset about the news of julie & dave's firing
>from
>the band as most of the people i've talked to are, why don't you email
>what
>remains of lift and let them know how you feel about it:
>lift@mindspring.com
>
>sorry to take up bandwidth and all that fun stuff, but from what i've
>heard
>there are a lot of people that have a strong opinion on this, and it
>would be
>best if it was directed to the correct people.
>
>thanks!
>lisa

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at 08:33 am 3/24/98 -0500, deb wrote:
this is a little long.
just wanted to say i appreciate and respect deb's opinion.....but

>molly and simone started the band.  they write all the songs. molly's the
>lead vocalist.  i think you have to consider molly and simone the core of
>lift, no matter how much you like julie and dave.
i must disagree somewhat....yes, molly started the band..yes, they are the
primary writers now..though molly was the initial primary writer (see
stellar) and dave and julie did contribute as well to a lesser
degree.....but this is like saying the pitcher is the most important member
of a baseball team....w/o a catcher there is no pitcher and vice versa.  i
think you get my point.  simone was no less or more important on stellar
than on lifelike because she did more writing on lifelike.  i think every
member of a team/band is just as important as the other...despite their
apparent role or title.  is the ceo more important than his $5/hour worker?
you couldn't support an organization without lots of workers!  the ceo
would have nothing.
>
>after all, there's no doubt that jerry and sara are a part of the ig band,
>but amy and emily still stand on their own, they are recognized as the

i thought i'd clear this up.
lift was formed as a band..not a duo.  if you notice on their cd inserts
lift is defined as "molly, simone, julie, and dave".
the difference in sara/jerry and dave/julie is that sara/jerry always
are/were considered contract players...they are freelance musicians who
have the right to come and go as they please.  (hence, why sara is no
longer playing with the girls..she has moved on to other interests..jerry
is doing other things as well, but will still play with the girls this
summer)  the indigo girls always has been/will be amy and emily....period.
julie/dave were never considered to be on a freelance/contract basis.  they
were always considered part of the band.  they were not free to come and go
as they pleased unless it fit lift's schedule.  lift was always the
priority.  big difference in my opinion.
don't know if this is true but, i was told a story about how jim morrison
(the doors) was originally offered a solo deal with a record company...he
said "no" because he was in a band and it was either all or none.  we know
what happened as a result of him sticking to his guns......i guess that's
kind of the point i'm trying to illustrate here.  amy and emily have each
other's backs...apparently no one had dave and julie's despite the 3 1/2
year investment.

>am just suggesting that molly and simone are the heart of lift, and that i
>expect lift to go on in much the same way as it has thusfar.
just have to disagree on both points here... particularly if you've seen
them live. i think you'll understand the heart of the band was much more
than molly and simone

>certainly hope julie and dave move on to bigger and better things.
here, here....................

thanks guys.

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hi y'all!

okay, i am psyched cause i am in the 6th row at the kentucky show!  to
whoever posted about not getting their tickets: relax.  mine took forever
to come.  i called uky and they said that the mail there is slow. so don't
worry -- yet at least.

so is anyone else going to this show?  we should have a list meet!  anyone
from indigohio?  i'd love to see y'all again.  and does anyone know who is
opening?

okay i should get back to studying.  i have a damn poli sci exam tomorrow
and i have to give a "japanese speech" on this totally 'depressing' story
about a semi-verbally abusive father.  fun.  ummmmm...how do you say
"child abuse" in japanese?  ;-)

bye!

:-) karen

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temporarily signin' off ta trek to tha' big apple.... :)
talk to y'all soon,
jill

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the gainesville show is so cheap because originally it was going to be at
the bandshell which would have been a free show so the price is low
because there was trouble with the contract and they couldn't come for
free...are you sure it is going to be general admission?


kerri hannan
gainesville, fl

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date:         tue, 24 mar 1998 16:59:44 -0500
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blah blah blah - how many times have i posted on this?! :)
okay...i'm compiling the tape now. ;)  those of you who contributed,
thanks for bein' so blasted cool -- i still need bios from a few people.
just tell me....what ya' do -- what you like to do in your spare time..
blah blah blah...you get the picture.

i've received them fruuuummmmmm:
drum rolllll pleaaase:

sarah pinsker
gloria marshall (c/o melissa faurest)
andi lipman
anna creech
rob sticka
barb basaj
claire johnson
shannon mast/me :)
shana smulyan
carrie schafer
kristina vaskys

those of you who have yet to get with me. ;)

john and tammy pyles
neil hunt (you gave me some...i'd like to know your interests and
stuff...both you and your honey ;)

cool man -- that's it. ;) i'm looking forward to finishing it. ;) once i
have the bios, the liners will be printed and the copies will be sent!
yeaaaah!

thanks for listening to me blab :)
bethany :)

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date:         tue, 24 mar 1998 14:20:34 pst
reply-to:     emilio hellerman <emilioh98@hotmail.com>
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you wrote

>your first email to the mailing list and you are whining about the
people
>in irc?  wow!  this is a record!  how old are you?  5?  6?  when you
don't
>get your way, do you always run to mommy?   oh they had a reason.  they
>asked you two questions:  who are you and how did you get the op.  you
>couldn't even answer their questions without using profanity.
tsk...let's
>talk about who is rude to who.

>
>i happen to know the people you are talking about.  they are not rude.
>from their story, you came onto the channel while chanserv was down,
thus
>you were able to get the temporary op.  you changed the channel topic
and
>refused to give them op when they asked for it.  you were the one who
was
>rude to them.  you didn't answer their question.  instead you starting
>using profanity.  that is usually enough to get you kicked off of the
>channel.  but they didn't kick you out did they?  you left on your own
>after crying that you were going to write to the mailing list.  the
first
>email to the list with your crying like a little spoil brat.
>
>
>>wherte people can feel free to tlak to other people about the girls
>>without being made to feel stupid and put down. i thought that fans of
>
>did you run a spell checker before sending this out?  you might sound
more
>intelligent if you did.  you didn't mention which irc it was.  dalnet,
>efnet, chatnet, etc.  think about it and be smarter next time.
>
>>the indigo girls would be very nice because they enjoy the music of
the
>>girls and the message they put out but the fans on irc are not. they
are
>>not true fans. they are rude people. thank you for listening and if
youi
>
>you were in the channel for how long and already passed a judgement
against
>these people?  oh come on...grow up.  there are many fans in the
>#indigo-girls channel.  i happen to be one.  again, how old are you?
are
>you so quick to make judgement?  you think you are mr. know-it-all;
>therefore, i am right?  wrong!  you are indeed stupid, not because they
>made you feel stupid.  anyone know that you can't make judgement about
>something in the first 1 minute!  grow up!
>
>>want set up a new channel on irc with me about the indigo girls, email
>>me at emilioh98@hotmail.com. thank you and go indigo girls!
>
>good luck!  i wouldn't want to chat with a little boy who doesn't know
how
>to handle being critiqued.
>

>channel.  i have the log of what was said in the channel.  from what i
have
>seen, you are the one who is out of line.  not the other three.
>

>
>tsk tsk.  if you can't get your way, you resort to cussing.  so mature
and
>grown up.  again, how old are you?  5 or 6?
>
>janice is a very nice person.  but since you have already made a
judgement
>against her, you are never going to find that out.  you will now be on
my
>ignore list.  i will never talk to you on the irc about the indigo
girls or
>anything else with you.  too immature for me.  i would rather talk to
>someone who is able to handle answering a simple question without
resorting
>to cussing.
>
>but janice's email wasn't enough.  you had to continue your immaturity.
>here is your next email, which by the way, also has a lot of typos.
that
>tells me a lot about your intelligent - stupid!
>
>>hello. you asked me many questions and i hope to answer them all. i
was
>>on dalnet when i went into #indigo-girls. the people who were there
said
>>they were operators but they did not have the @ next to there name til
>>later on. there nicknames were bsoph motor and another girl who was
kind
>>of nice and said she was not insulting me. i forgert her name
>
>those people were op huh?  they got their op.  what happened to yours?
did
>you keep it or did you lose it?  you lost it huh?  chanserv came back
on
>and took away your power to be abusive to them.  did they kick you out
>after getting their op?  no, they tried to be nice to you and explained
>what happened.  you didn't listen.  instead, you cussed and whined
about
>writing to the mailing list which is wasting space on my end.
>
>>you say that i should not base my decision on one time being in the
>>channel. well i had emails from many other people who have been on the
>>channel and they say that people are rude, do not want to talk about
the
>>indigo girls do not like the list and are not will to let other people
>>come in and start up conversation. i was not lagging with those
people.
>
>do you always listen to other people opinions?  okay here is my
opinion...i
>think you are stupid because you are unable to form your own opinion.
the
>channel is pretty nice if you are nice to them.  nice is the keyword
here.
>
>>i want to start another channel but i do not know how. if anyone wants
>>to start a new indigo girls channel where we can all like each other
and
>>be nice and talk about the girls please email me.
>
>you can't form it on dalnet.  good luck in forming it because you are
going
>to need a lot of lesson in order to get over your stupidity!  also good
>luck in finding someone who will be willing to talk to you.
>

i just want to say that your email was very rude and i do not understand
who you are to say all of that. you were not even there so how do you
know what happened? i did not know that #indigo-girls was rergistered as
a channel because i had op when i was there. when a channel is
registered not just anybody gets ops but only the people who are there a
lot. cause i had ops i thought that the channel was not registered so i
changed the topic to say i love the indigo girls! when the others came
in they did not ask for ops. if they had i would have given it them.
then they became rude and said i should not be op so i deopped myself.
then they got op from channel server. you say they asked me questions. i
did not understand what their questions were because they asked them
rude. english is not my first language. you kep calling me stupid. i am
not stupid! i am 22 years old, in college, and living in florida. i am
from chile. i am also disabled and that makes me hard to type. i have to
type withone hand. do not call me stupid because i do not speak your
language like you do. i am a nice person and i just want people to be
nice to me becasuse i am nice. i will never go back in your channel
again. do not worry. if everyone is like you i do not want to be there.
yes i used cuss word. i said "fuck you" after they treated me bad. they
deserved it to be said to them. as for you you should not be so rude to
people who cannot speak your language. not everyone is fortunate enough
to have english speaked to them since they are born. i did not know any
english til two years ago. i hope you have a nice day.

emilio hellerman

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date:         wed, 25 mar 1998 10:08:11 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hooo-kay folks, i think it's time to take the irc
discussion (debate, whatever you want to call it)
to private email - and to keep it there...

thanks,
sherlyn
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sorry if this has been posted...got it off the jerry jeff walker mailing list...

musicians talk about what they would do differently
      natasha kassulke
* 03/21/98
      wisconsin state journal
      (copyright (c) madison newspapers, inc. 1998)


<<snip> a lot of stuff about other artists...billy brag, kathy mattea, etc.>


        bragg says waiting for a break is just like how charlie
     watts, drummer for the rolling stones, once put it in an interview:
     "it's like five years of playing the drums and 20 years of waiting
     to play the drums."
        amy ray (the brunette half of the indigo girls) knows about
     rejection, too.
        ray says she was often criticized and for good reasons early
     in her career. she blames herself for a slow start because she says
     she didn't take her songwriting and music seriously enough at
first.
        "if i had it to do all over again, i'd have spent more time
     practicing and learning how to do it (play music), rather than
     hanging out in bars and drinking beers," ray says.


<<snip> stuff about jerry jeff>


        ray suggests bands keep a counter at the door of concerts to
     be sure they are getting the right cut from the admission fees at
     the end of the night. and she says performers should try recording
     independently at first so that they are fully engaged in the
     process and autonomous to a degree.
        "i've had club owners who wanted to pay me in drugs instead
     of in cash," ray says. "i've had bartenders water down my friends'
     drinks. we'd drive for eight hours to do a show, only to get there
     and find that it had been canceled. i expected sleaze from the
     record labels, but not from the clubs."
        but sleaze is what ray says she found early on in her career.
        "sleaze in life can be a good thing, though," she adds. "it
     forces you to hold a mirror up to yourself. and you can learn from
     it."
        ray says to pick your battles and to see your career, no

     matter what it is, as a challenge.
        "take it as the zen of trying to please yourself," ray says.
        ray and bragg, although authors of politically influenced
     songs, say they didn't come to pop music to be political.
        ray says leading benefits and speaking out such causes as
     environmental protection and native american rights is her career
     and part of her motivation for playing music. but she adds that
     even if she weren't a musician, she'd be the same politically
     active person.
        "we are people who feel things, and it's about being true to
     ourselves," bragg says. "it is not our job to give answers. it's
     our job as artists to ask questions and to inspire. it is the
     audience's job to change the world."


hope you enjoyed, and again, if i'm an idiot and y'all have seen this, sorry.

justin

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date:         tue, 24 mar 1998 19:48:46 est
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don't forget michelle malone is going to be at the black cat april 14th i
think and at fletcher's in baltimore april 23 (again.i think)

and who can forget about catie curits this sunday at the birchmere in
alexandria!


ok...that's it for now

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date:         tue, 24 mar 1998 22:17:21 est
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with all due respect to molly and simone and their claim of needing creative
freedom or whatever, i really feel it is wrong to continue to use the name
lift after julie and dave have been unceremoniously given the boot.

lift was an emsemble group, and two of it's shining lights are gone. i, for
one, have lost interest now. i had the pleasure of seeing them live in geneseo
and meeting most of the band after the show. i was impressed with what i
thought was the same integrity that has kept the indigo girls together for
almost 20 years now- in spite of their needs to grow and change in different
ways and at their own paces. i am disappointed that one half of the group felt
the need to leave the other half, just as their collective star was on the
rise.

so, this is a free country and molly and simone can do whatever they want and
whatever is best for them, but i think it is disgusting that they will
continue to call themselves lift. they are not lift anymore, and should not
continue to use the name, and enjoy the recognition that was earned in large
part by the efforts and presence of dave and julie. that just seems so wrong.

my 2 cents ~leah

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date:         tue, 24 mar 1998 22:37:31 -0500
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i'm driving to the b&j folk festival from the poughkeepsie ny area if anyone is interested in a carpool to cut costs, sing along to non-stop ig, and put a sign in the window that says "honk if you love the indigo girls".  if anyone is interested send me an email.  also those of you that want a copy of the curve with the second amy article.  my local bookstore has a few copies left.  if anyone is still interested i can go get them.

kris
kricky@mhv.net

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i need some info from anyone in the chapel hill, nc
area!  i need to know if tickets for the 4/30 chapel hill
show have gone on sale yet.  if so, what is the phone
number used to order them?

thanks in advance!

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hello everyone! i was wondering what everyones favorite indigo girls
song is? my favorite song is shame on you because it's a very cathy song
and i like the words to it and the beat! i wish amy ray was a straight
man because she is very cute! i think emily saliers is very sweet. what
is your favorite indigo girls song?

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emilioh98 said:
<< i wish amy ray was a straight
man because she is very cute! >>

well i, for one, am damn proud amy is a gay woman!

love.
tara.

º º º
gay *still* means happy.

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that's easy....

all of them.....

anything less is much more difficult..... :)

tim

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ok, it wasn't a real dream, just a part of one.  in one of my dreams, i
had a bit of a soundtrack.  i could hear "cedar tree" pumped into the
garage i was stuck in.  it wasn't ig singing it though...it was tom
petty...well, thats what my dream carol thought it was by.  it didn't
sound bad though.
on a sad note...i named a cactus i bought emily...and unfortunatly,
she's just about dead.  a few days ago, sarah tipped her over, and in
the process of refilling her pot with desert like gravely stuff, her
roots fell off!!  she had a bad problem with tipping constantly, but her
roots never fell off!!  for the last week or so, her amount of green has
been shrinking...she down to her last bit of green.  i'm so sad that i
can't even keep a cactus alive!!  i guess the michigan sun (or lack
thereof) helped in her decline, but i watered her everyday after her
roots fell off, hoping that whatever was left could absorb enough water
to sustain life until roots grew back.  boo, hoo...i'm gonna miss her.
first amy (my computer) goes comatose (crashed), then emily shrivels
up!!  i hope that this doesn't vex them!!
i'm not responsible in anything happens.
i'll never name anything after them again.
carol
ps--monday was a big ig day on my radio, i heard soy for the first time
since like last year, around 9:30 am.  i heard ctf around 3:30 pm...it
was crazy.  i'd usually go weeks without hearing any ig on the
radio...then i heard 2 in one day!!
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"nashville" is my favorite....but when it comes right down to it, in their
live shows, all of them are incredible. am i right?

~miz*

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last summer, i went to my aunt's b-day, and i saw my cousin there, who i
dont see so often (thats hmmm, once a year?) which is unfortunate, because
she likes ig... okay tangent.
anyway, her girlfriend was with her, and i had never met her before. all
is fine, until she--my cousin's gf-- smiles... she smiled just like amy!
and i'm sure ya'll know what a amy smile is like... so, ya know, i had to
sit down..
my friend said that she often see a emily clone where she works. i've been
pressuring her: "but talk to her! be her friend!"

july ;)

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so i almost never post, but today's the day!

a very kind soul from this list exchanged a boot with me about a month
ago--i wont say her name, but maybe she'll know who she is. hee hee, she
wrote instead of.. well ya know.. she wrote: "tired to be true"... hmmm,
got to think about that one!

second, in my little columbia house booklet, i saw a a group that has a
song named: "amy's back in austin"!! hmmm, is that a joke? does someone
know this song?

third, any darthmouth students around? allo, dahhhhlings! :) :) :) i'm
looking for someone who could buy me two tickets to that april 24th
show... pleeeeeeeease? email me privately (duh!)

july ;)

ps. thanks mel, info-keeper.

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i am applying for two jobs that would land me in the atlanta area sometime in
september.  being americorps positions, i would receive a monthly stipend of a
little over $800 to live on.  i'm trying to get an idea of about how much
apartments go for, and whether or not they include parking, etc., particularly
in the north, northeast part of the city.  essentially, how tough is it to
make ends meet in atlanta on $800/month.  any help would be much appreciated.
thanks.

court

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date:         wed, 25 mar 1998 08:35:49 -0700
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ok we've had a very small showing for project amy thus
far.  i've resorted to taking up a collection at work (which
is easy for me since i'm leaving for chiapas in 2 days and
everyone knows how nervous i am) and hitting up friends.

so where is everyone who voted and pledged??  i have
a proposal:  since i am going to be visiting artist cooperatives
and things like that, i will bring back something cool from the
heart of chiapas for everyone who gives $50 or more! that
way you will both be helping to educate people in this
country about what's going on down there and helping
sustain these communities, which is all they really want.
i will not be getting list mail starting tomorrow night, but
i will still be collecting private email, so keep those full-name-
and-amount posts coming as checks are sent out.

as always, here's the donation info:
http://members.tripod.com/~indigoempire/projamy.html

and here's the latest in chiapas news:
http://members.tripod.com/~wwactivism/chiapas.html

and of course thanks to those who have already donated!

by the way, for anyone who has a charity program where
they work, i have acquired the national ncdm office's
501(c) tax exempt status forms via fax, so let me know if you
need them!

elizabeth from denver

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date:         wed, 25 mar 1998 11:05:46 -0500
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just wanted to report that i got some information from the unc box office for
the ig concert on april 29.

ticket price is $28 for students and $35 for general public.  tickets go on
sale (tentatively) april 1 for students and april 3 for everyone else.

i need a student who is going to stand in line for tickets or who is willing to
give me their student id so i can buy tickets over the phone.  any kind friend
willing to help me out.  i am local so getting to money to you is no problem.
please please please someone out there has to be willing.  i am stuck here all
day - don't see the sun except when i walk in in the am - get out of work about
9 pm these days....am i painting a sad enough picture here.

i am counting on the kindness of some unc student.....anyone willing to give me
some assistance email me privately (thanks a bunch).

thanks - b

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at 11:05 am 3/25/98 -0500, becky a steele wrote:
>i need a student who is going to stand in line for tickets or who is
willing to
>give me their student id so i can buy tickets over the phone.  any kind
friend
>willing to help me out.  i am local so getting to money to you is no problem.
>please please please someone out there has to be willing.  i am stuck here
all
>day - don't see the sun except when i walk in in the am - get out of work
about
>9 pm these days....am i painting a sad enough picture here.

just be aware that depending on the school, you may not be able to use a
"student" ticket without that school's student id the night of the show too.

at indiana university, for instance, you need to show your student id when
you buy the ticket (the ticket is clearly marked as a student ticket) and
also the day of the event (or you don't get in -- which has happened to me
:).

i would hate for someone get a ticket to an ig show that they aren't
allowed to use, so you should probably check into each school's "student
ticket" policy.

deb

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date:         wed, 25 mar 1998 12:03:35 +0000
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hey y'all-

my brother got his cds stolen so i though i ask if some of you can help
build back his collection. if anyone has used copies of any of these cds
that they would be willing to sell, please let me know.

jimmy buffet songs you know by heart(yellow)
queen greatest hits(purple)
dmb under the table and dreaming
bnl rock spectacle


thanks a lot!

~rob
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* "the flesh is strong, the spirit stronger  *
*  so shed your skin, baby, let it through!" *
*                           --amy ray        *
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hey everyone,

  i had a dream...that they were playing in someones yard...right down
my street.  i ran out of the house looking for them and ohhhhh my god
the were right there...singing to me! there were alot of people sprawled
out onto the grass and the street...but they were singing to me! ;) then
out in a field was this big airplane...and all of a sudden they asked me
to come with them on the plane.  so i was like ...uhhh yea! when we got
inside...there was a table and i was sitting by amy and across from
emily...and em passed me a note...it was all folded up...and when i took
it from her hand...our hands touched for a long time and it was in
sloooow motion (like something on tv).  and i was so in shock because i
was sitting with the indigo girls ! then this waitress comes over and
offers us something to drink.  we were like inside a cafe inside an
airplane ;).  so then amy turns to me...and her hair is so perfect...and
she says..."where do you want to go?" and before i can even say anything
she puts her hand on my leg...and *bang* i wake up.
  it was the coolest dream i have ever had! i never new what the note
said that emily gave me...but they both were so nice and amy touched my
leg! ...hey thats the power of dreams i guess! ;) i know i will never
forget that one!
~amy

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on wed, 25 mar 1998, miztwang wrote:

> "nashville" is my favorite....but when it comes right down to it, in their
> live shows, all of them are incredible. am i right?
>
> ~miz*
>


couldn't have said it better myself, miz. although, the soft spot in my
heart still remains for "power of two". and recently, "love will come to
you" has taken up residency in a soft spot too. *sigh*

amy m.

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"we are not empty-headed celebrities."
            -the goddess, amy ray
"women together is a powerful thing. especially when you join it with
music."
            -the goddess, emily saliers
"amy is the stuff fantasies are made of, emily is the stuff romantics
yearn for."
            -the goddess, jill certo

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subject:      re: favrite song from the indigo girls?

well, i have to admit a certain love for "watershed", "wood song",
"this train (revised)" and "bury my heart....", but generally i just
love them all...

john.


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the torment is being in."

armistead maupin

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where are the cool places on the net to find good photos of them. missy

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has anyone else heard this song?!  i just got around to listening to the
2nd half of "the devil's in our bones" early recordings vol. 3 -- by the
time "up in smoke" was finished my ass was lyin' on the floor. ;)
just when you think you've heard the best one -- that there couldn't
possibly be a song better than the one you *last* named your favorite
indigo girls song, one like *this* comes along.  i'm one confused chick.
but i'll deal with it cuz i'm seein' them next month! yeah baby!

-bethany :)

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date:         wed, 25 mar 1998 18:19:49 -0500
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two promo cds by the indigo girls for auction on ebay at these urls:

  power of two ($5 minimum bid):
  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=8957859

  get out the map (bid at $5):
  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=8960159

thanks,
bob

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date:         wed, 25 mar 1998 16:53:36 -0700
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so, no one else has said a word about _big cup of empty_.  anyone buy it?
anyone like it?

if you do have it and you want the lyrics, email me and i will send 'em to
ya!

-garian

p.s.  has there been any word on the sys remix single?

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in a message dated 98-03-25 00:11:41 est, you write:

<< >your first email to the mailing list and you are whining about the
people
>in irc?  wow!  this is a record!  how old are you?  5?  6?  when you
don't
>get your way, do you always run to mommy?   oh they had a reason.  they
>asked you two questions:  who are you and how did you get the op.  you
>couldn't even answer their questions without using profanity.
tsk...let's
>talk about who is rude to who.

>
>i happen to know the people you are talking about.  they are not rude.
>from their story, you came onto the channel while chanserv was down,
thus
>you were able to get the temporary op.  you changed the channel topic
and
>refused to give them op when they asked for it.  you were the one who
was
>rude to them.  you didn't answer their question.  instead you starting
>using profanity.  that is usually enough to get you kicked off of the
>channel.  but they didn't kick you out did they?  you left on your own
>after crying that you were going to write to the mailing list.  the
first
>email to the list with your crying like a little spoil brat.
>
>
>>wherte people can feel free to tlak to other people about the girls
>>without being made to feel stupid and put down. i thought that fans of
>
>did you run a spell checker before sending this out?  you might sound
more
>intelligent if you did.  you didn't mention which irc it was.  dalnet,
>efnet, chatnet, etc.  think about it and be smarter next time.
>
>>the indigo girls would be very nice because they enjoy the music of
the
>>girls and the message they put out but the fans on irc are not. they
are
>>not true fans. they are rude people. thank you for listening and if
youi
>
>you were in the channel for how long and already passed a judgement
against
>these people?  oh come on...grow up.  there are many fans in the
>#indigo-girls channel.  i happen to be one.  again, how old are you?
are
>you so quick to make judgement?  you think you are mr. know-it-all;
>therefore, i am right?  wrong!  you are indeed stupid, not because they
>made you feel stupid.  anyone know that you can't make judgement about
>something in the first 1 minute!  grow up!
>
>>want set up a new channel on irc with me about the indigo girls, email
>>me at emilioh98@hotmail.com. thank you and go indigo girls!
>
>good luck!  i wouldn't want to chat with a little boy who doesn't know
how
>to handle being critiqued.
>

>channel.  i have the log of what was said in the channel.  from what i
have
>seen, you are the one who is out of line.  not the other three.
>

>
>tsk tsk.  if you can't get your way, you resort to cussing.  so mature
and
>grown up.  again, how old are you?  5 or 6?
>
>janice is a very nice person.  but since you have already made a
judgement
>against her, you are never going to find that out.  you will now be on
my
>ignore list.  i will never talk to you on the irc about the indigo
girls or
>anything else with you.  too immature for me.  i would rather talk to
>someone who is able to handle answering a simple question without
resorting
>to cussing.
>
>but janice's email wasn't enough.  you had to continue your immaturity.
>here is your next email, which by the way, also has a lot of typos.
that
>tells me a lot about your intelligent - stupid!
>
>>hello. you asked me many questions and i hope to answer them all. i
was
>>on dalnet when i went into #indigo-girls. the people who were there
said
>>they were operators but they did not have the @ next to there name til
>>later on. there nicknames were bsoph motor and another girl who was
kind
>>of nice and said she was not insulting me. i forgert her name
>
>those people were op huh?  they got their op.  what happened to yours?
did
>you keep it or did you lose it?  you lost it huh?  chanserv came back
on
>and took away your power to be abusive to them.  did they kick you out
>after getting their op?  no, they tried to be nice to you and explained
>what happened.  you didn't listen.  instead, you cussed and whined
about
>writing to the mailing list which is wasting space on my end.
>
>>you say that i should not base my decision on one time being in the
>>channel. well i had emails from many other people who have been on the
>>channel and they say that people are rude, do not want to talk about
the
>>indigo girls do not like the list and are not will to let other people
>>come in and start up conversation. i was not lagging with those
people.
>
>do you always listen to other people opinions?  okay here is my
opinion...i
>think you are stupid because you are unable to form your own opinion.
the
>channel is pretty nice if you are nice to them.  nice is the keyword
here.
>
>>i want to start another channel but i do not know how. if anyone wants
>>to start a new indigo girls channel where we can all like each other
and
>>be nice and talk about the girls please email me.
>
>you can't form it on dalnet.  good luck in forming it because you are
going
>to need a lot of lesson in order to get over your stupidity!  also good
>luck in finding someone who will be willing to talk to you.
>

i just want to say that your email was very rude and i do not understand
who you are to say all of that. you were not even there so how do you
know what happened? i did not know that #indigo-girls was rergistered as
a channel because i had op when i was there. when a channel is
registered not just anybody gets ops but only the people who are there a
lot. cause i had ops i thought that the channel was not registered so i
changed the topic to say i love the indigo girls! when the others came
in they did not ask for ops. if they had i would have given it them.
then they became rude and said i should not be op so i deopped myself.
then they got op from channel server. you say they asked me questions. i
did not understand what their questions were because they asked them
rude. english is not my first language. you kep calling me stupid. i am
not stupid! i am 22 years old, in college, and living in florida. i am
from chile. i am also disabled and that makes me hard to type. i have to
type withone hand. do not call me stupid because i do not speak your
language like you do. i am a nice person and i just want people to be
nice to me becasuse i am nice. i will never go back in your channel
again. do not worry. if everyone is like you i do not want to be there.
yes i used cuss word. i said "fuck you" after they treated me bad. they
deserved it to be said to them. as for you you should not be so rude to
people who cannot speak your language. not everyone is fortunate enough
to have english speaked to them since they are born. i did not know any
english til two years ago. i hope you have a nice day.

emilio hellerman
  >>
some people need to get some class on this list!!! i thought we we were all
supposed to be friends! i was hurt seeing you people pick on emilio!!! please
stop!!! i'm sure the indigo girls would never do anything like that to
anyone!!! can't we all please get along???
love, peace, indigo,
~alyssa

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in a message dated 98-03-25 00:11:41 est, you write:

<< hello everyone! i was wondering what everyones favorite indigo girls
song is? my favorite song is shame on you because it's a very cathy song
and i like the words to it and the beat! i wish amy ray was a straight
man because she is very cute! i think emily saliers is very sweet. what
is your favorite indigo girls song? >>
my favorite indigo girls songs (i have a few) are: "love will come to you",
"closer to fine", "blod and fire" and just about the rest form their self
titled album.
love, peace, indigo,
~alyssa

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date:         thu, 26 mar 1998 11:19:52 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

found this review of the pete seeger tribute album...

cheers,
sherlyn


where have all the flowers gone: the songs of pete seeger
red house records

by mark athitakis

the great thing about pete seeger's songs is that you -- yes, you --
can sing them. at 79, seeger, america's greatest living folk singer,
still knows better than anyone that a good song can be a wonderfully
subversive thing: the line you find yourself singing along with might
not be one you agree with, but in being sung, it sticks. while a
virtuoso banjo player, seeger never claimed to have a great voice
himself, just a willingness and massive talent for getting his and
others' songs across to others. "my main purpose as a musician," he
once said, "is to put songs on people's lips, not just in their ear."

unfortunately, as a tribute to seeger's life and work, "where have
all the flowers gone" rarely recognizes that purpose. instead of
immediacy, the collected artists substitute overproduction; instead
of solid interpretation, they come up with self-indulgence. the
famous and not-so-famous rock and folk musicians who try their hand
at the seeger catalog are talented, talented, so talented, they
mostly wind up subverting the lovely simplicity that is seeger's
trademark. listening to the overcooked covers by the indigo girls
("letter to eve"), bruce springsteen ("we shall overcome") and
jackson browne and bonnie raitt ("kisses sweeter than wine"),
there's a sense that they've missed the point entirely.

which only goes to show that while it's hard to be a great singer
or songwriter, it's harder still to be a great storyteller. it might
be churlish to say that studs terkel has the album's best moments in
a pair of short readings of seeger's poems, but the oral historian
actually gets what seeger was doing as a folk singer -- speaking for
the people in a people's voice. and it's also not that ironic that
actor tim robbins also shines with a brilliantly dramatic reading of
the antiwar anthem "all my children of the sun," complete with
children's choir ("bob roberts" proved he had a full understanding
of folk's power).  singing children are a recurring theme on the
record, appearing on three other songs; robbins' success aside, they
tend to drown "where have all the flowers gone" and "to everyone in
the world" in i'd-like-to-buy-the-world-a-coke sentimentality.
seeger always had a soft spot for peace messages in his songs, but
they never sound too soft when he sings them; here, they're mawkish
mush.

the remainder of the set's rare successes understand that seeger was
attempting to create a perfect combination of memorable (read:
undiluted) music and messages. canadian folk-rocker bruce cockburn's
strong, simple reading of "turn, turn, turn" rescues that song from
its hippie hell, ani difranco's "my name is lisa kalvelage" is as
ethereal and pointed as her best work and bluesman guy davis'
jarring "false from true" is a tremendous interpretation of seeger's
lament on martin luther king jr.'s assassination. however, even the
best of the nearly 30 performers -- holly near, roger mcguinn,
richie havens, nanci griffith -- wind up fumbling seeger's music.
play "flowers" against seeger's finest moments ("songs of struggle
and protest 1930-1950" is a good place to start), and the difference
between the two is immediate ... and depressing.

as if to steer the album in the right direction, seeger himself gets
the last word in. on a new song, "and still i am searching," his
voice now sounds disarmingly frail, but he's still conveying his
words and music simply and directly. if his voice is no longer as
strong as it once was, his commitment to the power of folk music
still remains. it's a fitting, and cautionary, end to an album that
attempts to place america's finest living folk singer on a pedestal.
except we don't need pete seeger on a pedestal. we just need more
pete seegers.

salon | march 16, 1998

mark athitakis is a regular contributor to salon.


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deb wrote:  <<just be aware that depending on the school, you may not be able
to use a "student" ticket without that school's student id the night of the
show too.
at indiana university, for instance, you need to show your student id when you
buy the ticket (the ticket is clearly marked as a student ticket) and also the
day of the event (or you don't get in -- which has happened to me :).
i would hate for someone get a ticket to an ig show that they aren't
allowed to use, so you should probably check into each school's "student
ticket" policy.
deb<<

actually deb - the woman at the box office (by phone) gave me the idea of using
a student id number over the phone or asking someone in line to purchase my
tixs for me.

just didn't want you all to think i conjured this up myself. the box office
lady was just full of helpful hints to get me in to memorial on 4/29.  now if i
could just get myself there.....hmmm...wonder if anyone wants to help me out.

b

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my favorite song would have to be reunion...i listen to it everyday..it is one
of those get you up and moving type songs right from the get go...i also love
the drum solo in touch me fall...it is so unfair to have to pick a favorite
though...i can actually say that i love all of a+e's songs...

thanks for reading-
jen

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yeah baby -- i've gotta do it. ;) i've said so many times that i just
can't pick my favorite song...i lied. i can. :) it's gotta be.....
drum roooooooollll pulllleeease...

everybody's waiting for someone to come home :)

sorry man, ya' just can't beat
"i sure hope he's comin', cuz i fe-e-e-e-el like i've just been saved"
ooooooor
"lord this life's so fu-ull i said, why do we ask for more..."

damn baby.  i don't think i've ever heard a better song - it just seems
like everything's perfect. ;)  i'd love to hear them do it again --
maybe we could ask 'em to revive it. ;)  whaddya think?!

bethany :)

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>second, in my little columbia house booklet, i saw a a group that has a
>song named: "amy's back in austin"!! hmmm, is that a joke? does someone
>know this song?

that's a country song.  the chorus goes something like "i'll be amy's back
in austin..."  i don't know who sings it but i remember hearing it a few
years ago.  :)


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>the soft spot in my heart still remains for "power of two". and
>recently, "love will come to you" has taken up residency....

i would have to say that my favorite live song was emily singing
and playing leeds.  it was just so intense.  front row center watching
her play that song, watching the emotion, the intensity, the raw
unfettered passion (oh yes! yes! yes!).....oh...sorry.  ahem...

uh ... yeah ... that would be my favorite live song.  favorite album
song would either be kid fears or hand me downs.

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(1)  to all of those who are having me make cds i haven't
     forgotten you!  i have a whole stack of them to do and
     each one takes about 4 hrs.  so please be patient.
     i really haven't forgotten you!!!  :)

(2)  amy clone at the original pancake house:

i went to toph again and talked to that waitress who looks like
amy.  her name is becky and she doesn't get asked [if she knows
she looks like amy ray] very often.  she's a big ig fan though and
says she was about 4 rows behind me at the dec 9 iu show.  she had
5th row center seats and i had 1st row center.  i really enjoyed
talking to her.  we actually kinda hit it off.  (oh yeah!)  i don't
know if it was because of our mutual ig interest or if there was
really something there.

in any event i would say it was a good day.

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hello, all!
      i just wanted to see if anyone was going... i can't convince anyone in
the area to drive all two hours north to see them... my gf doesn't want to
go... i don't have tix yet, but i think i would really like to go... anyone
from atl want to carpool? =)  talk at you later!  sarah

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just a reminder...
      michelle malone is selling her '95 martin signature series guitar.  i
might mention, purely for the sake of igc, that it's the self same guitar amy
plays when she joins michelle onstage.  current price is $1800.  please
address any questions or offers here!  thanks! sarah

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sooo...
      do you all know who that is to the right of emily?  just making sure...
sarah

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alright, i haven't seen this one up, and if my puter had been working i'd
have posted it yesterday! as it stands it is a day late! (and though i'm
tempted i'll refrain from putting my own birthday up...)

christy lynch
cml@mindspring.com
i'd think of a quote, but there are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many!!! :)
love ya!

carolyn
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the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn,
like fabulous yellow roman candles..
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date:         thu, 26 mar 1998 13:18:55 +1100
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this is a forward from the ig news list (i forgot to
send it to this list as well, duh)...

ta,
sherlyn
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date: thu, 26 mar 1998 12:33:13 +1100 (est)
from: sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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subject: [ig-news] re: 1998 guinness fleadh


[sherlyn's note: this is a repost of a message that was
originally posted to the indigo girls newsgroup,
alt.music.indigo-girls.]

from: "mike evans" <mike@prodigy.net>
newsgroups: alt.music.indigo-girls
subject: re: 1998 guinness fleadh
date: wed, 25 mar 1998 18:28:57 -0500

matthew hynes wrote in message <6ep8nd$be0$1@news.megsinet.net>...
>    i saw on mtv news that the girls were scheduled to play at this years
>fleadh fest, along with sinead o'conner and others. can anyone confirm
>this? and if so, which dates are they scheduled to play?
>

this is all the information i could find on that tour, it's collected from
www sites so may not be 100% accurate. i don't know yet when tickets will be
on sale either.


nyc june 13th randall's island
the corrs, sinead o'connor, chumbawamba, squeeze, the chieftains, nanci
griffith, richard thompson, mary black, dar williams, chris smither

nyc june 14th randall's island
x, tracy chapman, rosanne cash, yo la tengo, indigo girls, wilco, billy
bragg, los lobos

chicago june 20th arlington international racecourse
x, the corrs, john lee hooker, dar williams

san francisco june 27th venue tba
x, the corrs

playing, no dates/cities given:
clancy, o'connell & clancy, loudon wainwright iii, the devlins, blink, jeb
loy nichols, john martyn, rubyhorse, rogues march, great sea, susan mckeown,
kila, joe ely, john cale, eileen ivers, frances black, too cynical to cry,
pierce turner, black 47, mary coughlan, young dubliners, paul brady, luka
bloom, capercaille, donal lunny band, the drovers, john fahey, kelly family,
shane macgowan, natalie macmaster, saw doctors

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hi everyone--

several folks from the big list have sent me email inquiring about the
dartmouth show on april 24th. i figured i'd post to this list too in case
any of you are interested (i figured everyone who'd be going would be on
the baigl lsit, silly me!)


the show is indeed scheduled for april 24th at leede arena at dartmouth,
which is in hanover (west central) new hampshire. the *only* way to get
tickets is by getting them at the box office, there are no phone sales or
ticketmaster. they go on sale monday to students only (at non-student
prices which students can also buy). i am buying a block for folks on
monday when they go on sale by positioning a couple of really nice students
to help out. because they go on sale monday and i don't have extra money to
spot people ticket costs, let me know if you'd like to go and if it doesn't
sell out monday (there are only 2000 tickets) i'll try to get you a ticket
tuesday...chances are if you email me tonight, your money will reach me by
tuesday......

if you're nervous about sending money to a total stranger, i promise i am
trustworthy and will send it back if the ticket-buying doesn't work out
because it sells out too fast. i have a number of people on this list that
can vouch for my honesty and besides, they know where i live so they'll
come beat me up for you;)

also....i work at dartmouth, so i may be able to figure something out. let
me know if this interests you and i haven't heard from you yet.

thanks

amore,
susita

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hey hey hey -- let's all wish our buddy carolyn turett a happy birthday!
haaaappy birthday to ya' carolyn!
now for my post. ;)

i am looking for a recording of our two favorite ladies singin'
"cortez the killer"  anybody have it or know where i can get it?!  i'd
appreciate it. :) just mail me if you can lead me to the goods...

bethany :)

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hi y'all--just a tidbit of info because i know there are many ani difranco
fans here.  she will be performing on the letterman show this friday, march
27.  just fyi.  bye now

greg

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hi all!  sorry for the nigc, but i'm wondering if any of you from the
atlanta area can suggest something fun to do (a good concert to catch,
good night spots, etc.) -- i'll be there from apr. 9-12.  thanks in
advance (please email me privately, of course...)

debbie, alexand6@jeflin.tju.edu

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hello indigo girls fans and friends!!!!! how many of you have seen the
indigo girls in concert. i am going to see them soon for the first and
was wundering if it is really great. i have never seen them in personal
so it will be great for me. i hope that i can get good tickets though so
i can see amy and emilly up closely. how do i get good tickets?

emilio hellerman

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date:         thu, 26 mar 1998 00:17:41 -0500
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i have seen them in concert like 5 times.  i am seeing them for the 6th
time next month in kentucky.

as far as getting good seats goes, i guess it's mostly luck unless you
know people.  but i have usually been lucky.  i've seen them 4th and 9th
row, and next month i am seeing them 6th row.  if the concert is general
admission, be sure to get there early to get in line so you can get a good
spot near the front.

i think someone started the "what is your fave. song thread".  alright,
although like half the list already knows (especially for y'all who have
been here for a while and met me), my all time #1 favorite ig song is
"power of two".  now, as popular as that song is, i still have not heard
it in concert!  so keep your fingers crossed that they will play that on
the 21st in lexington!  i do really think i am cursed, though...

descriptions of my other favorite songs and why i love them can be found
at my ig web site which is at
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/~klrosenb/indigo.html

oh, one more thing (sorry, this is getting a bit long)... for the take
back the night rally i am reading parts of "the peace song" and "scooter
boys" and "chickenman" (well, only like one line from that song).  yeah!
and a friend of mine is reading something from alice dimicele (sp?), so
there will be a lot of cool "poetry" being read...

that's all for now!

:-) karen

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date:         wed, 25 mar 1998 22:32:29 -0800
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yeah rick!!!
hand me downs rocks.  it kind of seems to be overlooked sometimes, but i
think it's
one of ig's greatest.  oh, but then there's all those awesome em songs
like the wood song and it's alright and the list goes on and on and on
and on...impossible to pick a favorite.
and the best live song has to be chickenman because they just go with the
flow and it turns out to be an awesome jam session.  especially the way
they've been doing it on their latest tour, with dave ellison's lengthy
harmonica jam following em's cool little guitar solo.  i listen to that
part over and over again on my 1/30/98 la tape. :)

like it's been said on this list many times--there's an ig song for
everything, so the favorite song tends to rotate.  right now, i'm in a
shed your skin mood (can't wait for that remix single to come out). :)
later,
leslie

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date:         thu, 26 mar 1998 02:11:11 -0000
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i love listening to their music. i want to thank everyone who corresponded
to my last post. thanks for the encouragement and i thought i would let you
guys know what is going on now. i am thank for that dad i working most of
the time so i do not have to talk to him,but he still gets on my nerves
when i do. he is holding a lot against me since i told him i was gay a
month ago. he hates gays so bad that he isn't willing to except his
daughter as one so i have to hide the fact that when he drops me off at my
girlfriend donta's this summer that she is just a friend. mom isn't to
excepting either. this creates a big problem for me since i plan to move to
ok if me and donita get a long well. i do not want to lose them and i do
not want to have to chose between her or them. it is a hard decision. if
anyone has icq i can chat that way now. i also can use the aol one, but i
do not have that one on all the time. well back to my home situation. i am
trying to deal with my parents being on my case mostly and that i do not
have people around my own age to hang out with> when i go back to work i
will have people in their 50 that i get a long with to talk to. which is
cool. my favorite song of the ig would be shame on you. i love the rest
though.missy

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hey emilio, why do you wish amy ray was a straight man?
my fav ig song? i have many, but i think 'ghost' is very special, as
well as 'least complicated' and 'watershed'.

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hi y'all,

my favorite song are 'don't give that girl a gun'...'shed your
skin'...'scooter boys'..'touch me fall'...
all of them are incredible. i love all of amy's songs...;)

bye
mónica

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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<msoutto@comv.es> ferran nogueroles & monica soutto
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okay.  my favorites are:
--"least complicated", because i just love it because i'm exactly that
kind of "never was cool"
--"1 2 3" because i can growl it out and it's just so much fun to sing
--"pushing the needle too far" because it strikes me as very very true.
--"airplane", which is admittedly kind of a silly song, but that's
precisely why i'm so fond of it.

and i figure that's my big list.  although that's just right now..this
changes with the weather. =)
--ariel
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~bean/
"i fight with love
i laugh with rage
you gotta live light enough to see the humor
long enough to see some change"
        --ani difranco

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date:         thu, 26 mar 1998 08:33:01 est
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naomi judd

brian

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date:         thu, 26 mar 1998 10:42:47 est
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wwwwwwwhaat!?!  naomi judd?!?  sorry...lol....i know the gal - how is there a
remote resemblance?!?  lord...   ;)

~miz*

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date:         thu, 26 mar 1998 08:48:23 -0700
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i'd have to agree with miz on that... i did work with a woman in
nashville who looked like emily.... unfortunately, she was straight!

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hey all - i hardly ever post (even though i've been here for six years :-),
but i couldn't let this one pass.  since all the women here are phenomenal,
including amy and emily, i thought it very appropriate.  enjoy!  -joan

*****
this maya angelou poem is going around to celebrate women's history
month.  send this to five phenomenal women you know.
*****

phenomenal woman  /  by maya angelou

pretty women wonder where my secret lies
i'm not cute or built to suit a model's fashion size
but when i start to tell them
they think i'm telling lies.
i say
it's in the reach of my arms
the span of my hips
the stride of my steps
the curl of my lips.
i'm a woman
phenomenally
phenomenal woman
that's me.
       i walk into  a room
       just as cool as you please
       and to a man
       the fellows stand or
       fall down on their knees
       then they swarm around me
       a hive of honey bees.
       i say
       it's the fire in my eyes
       and the flash of my teeth
       the swing of my waist
       and the joy in my feet.
i'm a woman
phenomenally
phenomenal woman
that's me.
       men themselves have wondered
       what they see in me
       they try so much
       but they can't touch
       my inner mystery.
       when i try to show them
       they say they still can't see.
i say
it's in the arch of my back
the sun of my smile
the ride of my breasts
the grace of my style.
i'm a woman
phenomenally
phenomenal woman
that's me.
                      now you understand
                      just why my head's not bowed
                      i don't shout or jump about
                      or have to talk real loud
                      when you see me passing
                      it ought to make you proud.
                      i say
                      it's in the click of my heels
                      the bend of my hair
                      the palm of my hand
                      the need for my care.
                      'cause i'm a woman
                      phenomenally
                      phenomenal woman
                      that's me.

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i've never seen ig live, but i'm going to the concert in lexington, ky,
on the 21.  i'm so pumped for this!  i don't think i'll be able to sleep
for the next month!

as far as a favorite song goes, i agree with everyone else - it's
impossible to decide.  but if i had to pick a couple, i'd have to say
"hammer and a nail" and "i don't wanna know."

also, i'm new to this list, but i think it's great.  i live in bumblefuck
ky and i only know 2 or 3 other ig fans.  this is great!!!

tami

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date:         thu, 26 mar 1998 09:19:48 -0800
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<drum roll>

at last! it's here! all the tapes have been sent out (and y'all have been
waiting so patiently, thank you). so without further ado, you can get your
indigo girls warfield boot from the following fine branches.  just find the
address next to your month of birth and contact that person to set up a
trade or send a blank. obviously, no money should be exchanged for this
boot. oh, and i don't have branches for australia, europe, or canada yet,
any volunteers? :)

january:        ron johnson <ronjohns@microsoft.com>
february:       jan monforton <jmonfort@vannet.k12.wa.us>
march:          leigh ann <junebug@aeneas.net>
april:          melissa anderson <anderson@biostat.washington.edu>
may:            kristina <andrade@az.com>
june:           bonster@u.washington.edu
july:           hunterj1@aol.com
august:         debigogrl <debigogrl@aol.com>
september:      linda perrine <strangefire@earthlink.net>
october:        gregg <psu04707@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
november:       andrew conover <acon@ix.netcom.com>
december:       leslie holeman <holeman@cats.ucsc.edu>

this boot is good quality, recorded on dat with stereo mics from the
balcony near the soundboard.  the sound is very clear and there is barely
any audience noise. (it actually sounds better than what i heard in the pit
that same night.) this boot fits on a 100minute tape. the set list follows
(note: this was the first night they performed blister in the sun!)


indigo girls - warfield theatre, san francisco, ca 1/27 (tues. night)

  hey kind friends
  power of two
  dean man's hill
  least complicated
  shame on you
  the wood song
  cut it out - wish you were here (pink floyd cover)
  get out the map
  shed your skin
  ghost
  don't give that girl a gun
  it's alright
  thin line
  winthrop
  chickenman
  galileo

encore:
  romeo & juliet
  blister in the sun (violent femme cover)
  closer to fine


so there you go. did i forget anything?  oh yeah, it was a great show!

(ohmy!!! hammer and a nail just came on the radio! weeeeee!)

cheers,
traci

tracil@microweb.com

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date:         thu, 26 mar 1998 10:32:26 -0700
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this will probably be my last post for a week as i'm heading down to
chiapas tomorrow.  but i wanted to let you know the tally
so far:  we have $370 heading off mainly to the atlanta nana
chapter.  way to go folks!  but we need quite a bit more to
come close to last year, much less top it.   only 20 people have
donated thus far!!  thanks to all of you who have, especially
the overseas folks and canadians, y'all are generous!  but we
only have two weeks left, so please don't put this off!
i expect to return to a flood of private mail with full names and
amounts!

to re-re-re-iterate, here's the donation info:
http://members.tripod.com/~indigoempire/projamy.html
and here's some newly-updated chiapas news:
http://members.tripod.com/~wwactivism/chiapas.html

how many of you have company donation matching
programs?  (this is one instance where i adore microsoft!)
for ncdm's 501(c) tax exempt forms, email them at
moonlight@igc.apc.org or call them (800)405-7770
and they will be happy to fax them to your company.

i'll be online for another 6 hours, so email questions or
comments quickly!  i'm hoping to be back april 6 if
all goes well, and i'll post a brief trip report then.

thanks for everyone's support on this!  love ya!

elizabeth from denver carrying her weight in photographic
equipment

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hey!

if you can get newsgroups there are a few from atlanta that would be
helpful for you to "lurk" on or post to... if you want info from folks
down there in the "know".

atl.housing
atl.jobs
atl.general

if you don't see any info of interest there... post something... folks
will respond.  i posted about not seeing any jobs in the medical billing
field and now they have posted a few here & there... so go for it!

good luck!
twink!
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hi y'all...

ok, so this is the situation...i was trying to get info about the april
17th (my gf's b-day) concert at memphis state, and called
ticketbastard...who of course had no clue about it, but said there was a
show listed for april19th at *the university*.  that's all.  not which
university, mind you, just the university.  the guy on the phone didn't
have a clue about exactly which university, either!  so...called for
memphis state...411 didn't have a memphis state univ. listed, so i went
with univ. of memphis.  they said they are putting on an ig show, but on
april *13th*, not 17th...and that they aren't selling tickets.  first come
first serve, stand in line, etc.  hmmmm....so ticketmaster is selling tix
for a show that supposedly isn't occuring, and univ. of memphis doesn't
have a show schedlued for the original 17th date.  i am sooooo
confused...help, help!

thanks,
amy

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ok, i've called chattanooga mem. auditorium, and they only have dates for
the 15th, not the 16th...sheesh...i give up...

amy, who is feeling loopy

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on thu, 26 mar 1998, amy cason wrote:

> ticketbastard...who of course had no clue about it, but said there was a
> show listed for april19th at *the university*.  that's all.  not which
> university, mind you, just the university.  the guy on the phone didn't

i'm thinking that the 19th was the show in fayetteville, ar, which would
be "the university" of arkansas, that is....don't know about the 17th
though.

sarah

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...got a new job - with no e-mail!  (...but a lot more fun than working in
a library.) i get to put together bicycling tours! alas, i will be
unsubscribing tomorrow, and maybe getting another account soon.  toye,
maybe i'll run into you at mokabe's, and flamer, i'll see you at the aids
ride - keep up the training!

don't know what i'll do without my daily indigo fix...

sarah in st. louis

"every five years or so, i look back on my life, and i have a good laugh"

-emily saliers

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amy cason wrote:
> ok, so this is the situation...i was trying to get info about the april
> 17th (my gf's b-day) concert at memphis state, and called
> ticketbastard...who of course had no clue about it, but said there was a
> show listed for april19th at *the university*.  that's all.  not which
> university, mind you, just the university.  the guy on the phone didn't
> have a clue about exactly which university, either!  so...called for
> memphis state...411 didn't have a memphis state univ. listed, so i went
> with univ. of memphis.

memphis state *is* u of m.  they changed the name a few years ago.  i
grew
up in memphis, and i when started hearing about um, i wondered at first
if
it was a new school, but it turns out that three of the four colleges in
town have changed name since i was a kid.  but if you called tb in
memphis
rather than georgia, then "the u" is probably what they'd call it.

tom

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once again, i turn to all of you who know so many things..
i have to write a paper for my women's studies class.. yeah yeah, of
course i thought about writing about the ig (and ani too-with whom i've
fallen in love in recent past;) but hmmm, its a
minimum of 15 pages, and the teacher insisted on the research aspect of it
(rambles rambles rambles) anyway, i thought about doing it on the
representation of women in fairytales.. any advice? books i should read?
websites i should check? anything? (someone to help me write my paper? ;p)
thanks ya'll!
(we always got to include the y'all somewhere... ;)

july ;)

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> pierce turner, black 47, mary coughlan, young dubliners, paul brady, luka
> bloom, capercaille, donal lunny band, the drovers, john fahey,
kelly family,
^^^^^^^^^^^^

holy cow, they really *do* exist! the ubiquitous kelly family
infomercial has been giving me nightmares of late.  has anyone else seen
it?

igc: for those who missed the cnn broadcast re: ellen and ig (about a
month or so ago) - you can view all two-plus minutes of it on the cnn
web site.

back to my buffalo vacation,
bon

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sorry!  haha i didn't mean to write naomi judd...i meant to write the other
old country bag, reba mcintyre!!!  silly me!  sorry, it was early when i wrote
it!

brian

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in a message dated 98-03-26 05:26:26 est, bean@u.washington.edu writes:

<< okay.  my favorites are:
--"least complicated", because i just love it because i'm exactly that
kind of "never was cool" >>
i'd have to agree with that, and my other fave song is love will come to you.
it makes me cry every time i hear it.
anna

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hey y'all. i wasn't going to post this, but i've been biting my nails for
weeks trying to decide if this was going to start a flame war. i hope not
cause i know this is not about stalking or obsessing or gossiping...it's
about surprises.
        the other night, i saw a clone of amy at a local restaurant. she had the
same sense of style, the same haircut, the same height, the same voice.
guess what, it was amy. as a matter of fact, it didn't even look like amy
until i had been looking at her for a few seconds. so you never know about
those clones! :) keep your eyes open! thanks for listening (and not flaming
since i didn't mention any details, so technically it isn't gossiping,
right?).

                                                        christy :)

"i feel naked. but it's feelin' kind of good like i've found freedom."
                                        michelle malone

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well, the weather warmed up a bunch today and my friend lauren and i had
to go and buy people presents at the mall, and in her car she had an ig
tape...we belted out ig with the windows down the whole way home...esp
the wood song and southland...we are such dorks :)  it is wonderful to
sing southland when you are driving in the boonies and it is about 70
degrees outside..sweet :)

carolyn
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mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time,
the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn,
like fabulous yellow roman candles...
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all right, all right. i screwed up big time. i got a lot of messages from
people saying mean things to me about it and i appologize. from now on i'll
just keep my thoughts to myself. for all those who said mean things to me,
you'll be happy to know that i won't be posting anything else.
alyssa

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there is an article on the billings house (the recipient of the list gift for
emily's birthday last year) in this week's southern voice.   there is also a
picture of emily & kristen hall & jenny feezel on the cover.

i took this directly from the sv web site, so all typos are not mine (for
once!).   their web site is:  http://www.southernvoice.com

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what happened to the billings house?

despite major fund-raisers, aids hospice never opened, leaving a legacy of
questions

by laura brown


between 1994 and 1996, hundreds of atlantans attended a variety of high-
profile fund-raisers for the billings house, including two "rock for aids"
concerts featuring indigo girls and well-known local bands. but the planned
aids hospice never opened, and a number of donors have contacted southern
voice to ask what happened to their money.

the published phone number for the billings house has been disconnected, and
although the agency remains a registered non-profit corporation, the georgia
secretary of state's office lists the agency's status as "non compliant"
because no annual registration fee has been paid since august 1996.

"[billings house executive director] jenny feezel came to jerusalem house and
visited with me to learn about how jerusalem house was started, and i remember
experiencing her enthusiasm with the project, but i never knew what happened
to it," said louisa bassarrate, echoing the sentiments of many in atlanta's
aids community. bassarate served as director of development at jerusalem house
from 1992 to 1996.

while feezel's number isn't listed, southern voice located her through other
billings house volunteers at the doctor's office where she is working as she
prepares to leave the country on missionary work in january.

she said that the billings house, named after a friend who died from aids,
merged with atlanta hospice international in january 1997, and gave the
african-american aids hospice their remaining assets of about $30,000.

although feezel said she wanted to provide southern voice with the billings
house's financial statements and past newsletters, they were stored on a
computer disk from an old, donated system and could not be accessed by press
time, she said.

the proposed facility never opened, according to feezel, because the billings
house planned on funding from atlanta's empowerment zone, and the grants
program for impoverished neighborhoods requires that all projects be approved
by neighborhood associations.

residents in a predominately african-american neighborhood objected to the
predominately white board for the billings house bringing people with aids
into the area, she said.

because the billings house had not been accepted by the african-american
community they intended to serve, and as heterosexual blacks replaced gay
white men as those in primary need of aids hospice care, feezel said she and
the board made the very difficult decision to "let go and allow the mission to
take a different turn and ... make sure the money went to where it was needed
most."

although the merge with atlanta hospice international was in some ways "a sad
demise" to her dream of providing residential hospice care to indigent aids
patients, "i have faith the money went to the right place," she said.

feezel said she tried to contact billings house supporters through a final
newsletter explaining the change, but many came back because of incorrect
addresses, and she had no way to contact those who gave cash donations. she
also said the corporation had been officially dissolved, despite state
records.

still, even some former board members did not seem aware of what became of the
billings house. one member who said he resigned "about six months before it
closed" said he believed the billings house "had been absorbed by aid
atlanta."

st. mark's united methodist church pastor mike cordle served on the board, and
said members voted to end the project due to a declining need for aids hospice
care brought on by the success of new protease inhibitor treatment regimens.
cordle did not mention a merge with atlanta hospice international and said he
thought all funds had been used "to try and keep the organization alive.

"to the best of my knowledge, the group realized that with the rapidly
changing face of aids, our plans to build another hospice in the city was
something that we just did not need at this time," he said. "we discussed it
over our last three meetings in early 1997, how the need was changing and we
needed to be sensitive to it and not just do this for our sake."

because of high overhead costs and relatively low ticket prices, even the
well-known benefits for the billings house did not yield substantial funds for
the project, organizers said. "i went to those benefits, but we didn't really
make tons of money with them like we hoped to do," cordle explained.
"sometimes the checks were for just $200 to $400, and it doesn't take long to
use that up just to keep the organization alive while we applied for grants."

whatever the costs of administrating the billings house during its
unsuccessful search for a facility and community acceptance, the money raised
for the project still may not have reached people with aids.

the secretary of state's office lists atlanta hospice international-the group
that feezel said received some $30,000 in remaining billings house funds-as an
active cooperation in georgia, though the agency has not paid this year's
registration fee, and an official with the department of human resources said
the hospice is licensed, but the contact number provided by dhr was a wrong
number.

atlanta hospice international has no listed telephone number, and several
other atlanta-area hospice officials said the agency provided in-home, not
residential hospice care, and they believe it had closed.

officials with aid atlanta and outreach, inc., a specifically african-american
aids service provider, said they had never heard of atlanta hospice
international, although feezel said it was an aid atlanta caseworker who first
recommended the agency to her, and she selected it because it was run by the
african-american community.

contacted by southern voice, charles folsom, head of atlanta hospice
international, confirmed that the agency "is out of business as of about a
year ago." asked whether his hospice ever received the $30,000 transfer of
assets estimated by feezel, folsom wouldn't say. "hoooey! i better not comment
on that," he said.

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hey, maryland *does* qualify as southland!  it's south of
the mason-dixon line, my kinfolk from there all have southern
accents, the state song is a confederate battle hymn, and the
only reason they didn't secede was the huge union army around
dc. (don't worry, i'm not "still fighting the civil war" or
anything - just a bit of historical trivia. :-)  )

so, feel free to sing that song like it belongs there!

tom

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hkf-
someone wrote 'i wish amy was a straight man.'
this is hilarious! whoever said this- please explain! because i'm thinking
that if you are a straight female, being this seriously attracted to amy-
maybe you're not a straight female after all?!
i can't even begin to express how glad i am that amy is, like i am, a
homosexual female, and in her early 30's too!

favorite ig song-  strange fire! i say that every time this question surfaces
on the list. but i must now add carry me away. (fav. amy tune anyway)

people mag- since my last post, a lot of folks have asked me about the people
magazine article i referenced with the 3 page ig article in it. they want to
go to their library and look it up. well, it was in 1994- unlike what the
lifeblood site states- and i believe it was in july. i can't put my hands on
it right now, but when i locate it in my desk i'll post the precise date.

emily looks like a judd?!?!!??! oh my goddesses, no way. i see that has been
corrected to read reba mcintyre- well, of course i can see why you confused
them all. it is a little closer but still! i can actually hear emily laughing
over that one.

a giant fart?-i just traded for the lancaster boot- the one y'all were talking
about way back when, the one where something happens to their speakers and amy
says 'what was that? satan. it sounded like a big- a big- um- fart...'
any experts out there- what does she say after that? i can't make it out but
the audience totally cracks up. it sounds like 'the fabulous farting indigo
girls'  oh my...

also for the experts out there- tell me about love of the common people. who
wrote it? if this is a cover tune, who sang it originally? thanks, i love this
song!

finally- (and y'all see how i put this all in one post- that saves bandwidth
when you have a bunch of little things to mention) for everyone who i am
booting lilith - i have an average turn around of 2 days from the day i get
your tape until i send yours out. if you are trading with me- the turn around
is the same day, because the tapes are already made.

~peace, leah (who lives in the northeast and finally got to open the windows
in the house for the first time since last october, and the cats are very
happy!)

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just kidding folks!  ok, i know that "acadian driftwood" has been discussed
here before, but i just gotta know something.  do any bootlegs exist of the
august 24th (lilith fair in vancouver) performance of this?  or as far as
that goes, any performance of that song by ig?  i'm dying to find this out!

thanks

chris wilson

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hey everyone. i'm so psyched about the nyu show. it is only a short train
ride away from me. i already got the okay from my mom to go, and have
three fun people to go with. i just need to know some things. first, does
anyone have any clue when tickets go on sale. has anyone ever gone to any
show at nyu? does anyone know if it's general admission. any info on this
would be great. thanks.
rb

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sorry for the nigc, but could the person who mentioned being in americorps
(or somebody else in the program) e-mail me?

thanks,
sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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hello all,

i just thought i'd say that i had an ig dream last night, where they were on
stage during a sound check and me and some friends were on stage
watching them. cool-l. it was probably due to the fact that i had just
watched the watershed video for the first time (gee it was great and so
funny! tmf was too cool) as the lovely sherlyn hugglebear koo sent it all
the way from ozzie! yah! so thanks heaps sherlyn and the star wars
pens were cool! and the star wars choclates were all intact!!! cool-l!!
i think we should all thank sherlyn for all the hard work she puts in to this
list, well i'm just sucking up now, but your cheque is in the mail (well
hopefully this monday).
knowing that amy is such a big sci-fi fan, i was wondering who else out
there in listland was...? ah me...and...?

well, thanks again sherlyn,
lynda

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hello everybody!
     i need some help.  i am trying to make up a compilation of songs and am
looking for the following artists.  if you have copies of any of the songs
listed, please let me know!  thanks for all of your help!

mercy me by say-so
good mother by jann arden
am i cool by the nowhere blossoms
flames of truth by sarah masen
happiness by abra moore
pretty strange by the autumns
but you by paul chiten
you don't know me by jann arden
first time by billie myers
kingdom by the slugs
the right place by eddi reader
pretty deep by tonya donelly
i'll remember you by sophiw zelmani
beautiful thing by kyf brewe
top of the morning by the hang-ups
world outside by the devilins
that's what love can do by tom snow
stand by me by say-so
healing hands by mark cohn
sittin' on the top of the world by amanda marshall
insecuriousity by andrew hoffs
seven shades of blue by beth neilsen chapman
stupid by chicken pox
saturday by colony
a lot like you by colony
will tomorrow ever come by dance hall crashers
we'll get through by the slugs
being right by cush
green apples by chantal kreviazuk

sorry it is so long and i didn't mean to waste bandwith, but please write to
me if you have any of these!!  thanks so much!
-bethany

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date:         thu, 26 mar 1998 21:55:46 est
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i forget how many, but i know i have some of the pics from people mag on my
web page....i know the one of amy and her parents is there, and i think one of
amy and emily in a classroom.
warning...the page takes what seems like 3 hours to load...

http://members.aol.com/shameony0u/igmain.html

grl

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date:         thu, 26 mar 1998 18:56:05 -0800
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you know brian, when i first saw a picture of emily, i thought she
looked like reba too.  but i got over it real quick! :)

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> >hey, maryland *does* qualify as southland!
>
> try telling that to my history profs: i took a civil war class last year
> with an expert who *insisted* that maryland was not part of the south, and
> made anybody who disagreed stay to argue with her....another prof says
> thats just because she was born here and doesn't want to admit she's a
> southerner, but most of the people i know who live here consider
> themselves yankees!
>
> sarah
> spinsker@goucher.edu
>

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could someone that is going to the concert please email me?

st-st-st-st-st-steph

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hi elizabeth!

        tommorrow, i'll be sending a $50.00 check to the:
------------------------------------
local atlanta chapter:
make checks to: north american neighborhood association.
send to:
     nana
     3195 misty creek drive
     decatur, georgia 30033
------------------------------------

        and another $50.00 check to the:

national chapter:
make checks to:  national commission for democracy in mexico
address:
     ncdm
     2001 montana
     suite b
     el paso, texas 79903
------------------------------------

        for amy's birthday project.  i challenge all other listers who have
the funds to match my contributions :)  however, if you can only afford
$5-10 that's great too!!
        if only one-half of the list donated $5.00 we could match last
year's gift of $2,500.00.
        have a safe and inspiring trip to chiapas, elizabeth!  let us know
all about it when you return.


        "when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower all for one and one
for all then we sing the common call.  let it be me, if the world is night
shine my life like a light" - emily


tony fraps

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in a message dated 98-03-26 20:22:20 est, leah writes:

<< someone wrote 'i wish amy was a straight man.'
this is hilarious! whoever said this- please explain! because i'm thinking
that if you are a straight female, being this seriously attracted to amy-
maybe you're not a straight female after all?! >>

naw....the woman just seems to have that effect on straight women.
i have a theory that it has to do with the way her public persona embodies
certain classic qualities that are so lacking in our current sullen
and whiney crop of male cultural icons.
she's got that james dean thing goin' on.
it's appealing, and very rare in this day and age.

rrrrrroooowwwwwwllllllll !!!!!
:)
claire

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in a message dated 98-03-26 17:38:38 est, bbelbis@aol.com writes:

<< sorry!  haha i didn't mean to write naomi judd...i meant to write the other
old country bag, reba mcintyre!!!  silly me!  sorry, it was early when i
wrote
it! >>

noooooooooo  brian!!!!!!  emily doesn't look at all like reba mcentire!!!!!
reba's my all-time favorite country chick and emily doesn;t even bear the
slightest resemblance to her.

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
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date:         thu, 26 mar 1998 21:11:46 -0700
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  i got a little happy with the delete key and deleted all the posts about
the b-day project.  could someone please let me know whats up i'd like to
contribute what little bit i can afford.

thanks,

lin

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yikes!! not even close...
     peace,
          sharon


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> date: thursday, march 26, 1998 8:33 am
>
> naomi judd
>
> brian
>

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okay y'all
      i've reviewed alyssa's posts over the past two days and besides a
really long quote i haven't seen anything worth flaming over.  after my
encounter with some of you, i can understand why she's so upset.  i even
had one person on here (i refuse to name names) who sent me nasty email,
and then when i responded, told me to "fuck off or i'll sick my spouse on
you" kind of stuff...and she started it! i never said anything mean or
crude to her, and i was shocked.
       my point is can't we all try being civil towards each other?? we
should try and remember that some folks on here are new, some get excited
and maybe over post or quote, but it's only certain people who seem to get
flamed, and certain folks who jump off and flame away without trying to be
nice first.  flames should be withheld until someone makes the same mistake
several times.  lighten up, ok?  from what i've seen, alyssa has only been
trying to make peace and to contribute intelligently to the list.  we're ig
fans--but we sure aren't doing them proud every time we jump all over
someone for making a mistake.
                 peace,
                         sharon

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> date: thursday, march 26, 1998 6:59 pm
>
> all right, all right. i screwed up big time. i got a lot of messages from
> people saying mean things to me about it and i appologize. from now on
i'll
> just keep my thoughts to myself. for all those who said mean things to
me,
> you'll be happy to know that i won't be posting anything else.
> alyssa
>
>

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emily's look-alike was playing pool at our bar again tonite.....she is the
cutest lil thing!!!  tell you what....i'll take a picture with her and scan
it...so y'all can see for yourselves. lol

~miz*

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hi...sorry for taking up your time and space with this, but i had heard
that tickets for the gainesville show were supposed to go on sale this
morning at 10, and they didn't :(  i called both ticketmaster and the box
office of the o'connell center and they both said they didn't have that
info yet of when they would go on sale, to keep checking back...so if
anyone hears anything, please let me know...thank you sooo much!

kim
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at 10:05 am 3/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>hi...sorry for taking up your time and space with this, but i had heard
>that tickets for the gainesville show were supposed to go on sale this
>morning at 10, and they didn't :(  i called both ticketmaster and the box
>office of the o'connell center and they both said they didn't have that
>info yet of when they would go on sale, to keep checking back...so if
>anyone hears anything, please let me know...thank you sooo much!

ok this is what i've found out - that uf is totally disorganized. the
o'connell center swore up and down all week (i called numerous times) that
tickets would be on sale this morning at 10 but they are not. they also said
that ticketmaster would be handling the concert. they're definitely not. i
just called them. the people at the university box office, who are not
connected to the o'connell center and who are very pissed off and slightly
rude (understandably i guess), said that they have no idea when tickets are
going on sale but that ticketmaster would be handling it. they told me to
call back on monday. basically, i have no idea when tix go on sale.
apparently, there are some contract problems that still need to be worked
out. the ubo said that show is not confirmed for april 14th and that it
might even be on a different date later in the year! anyway...as soon as i
find out what's going on for sure, i'll post the list because from all the
personal mail i've gotten, it looks as though a lot of listees want to go to
the show. hopefully uf and rcam will straighten themselves up and figure
this thing out soon.

have a great day y'all,

jendy

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at 10:43 am 3/27/98 -0500, jendy wrote:
>ok this is what i've found out - that uf is totally disorganized. the
>o'connell center swore up and down all week (i called numerous times) that
>tickets would be on sale this morning at 10 but they are not. they also said
>that ticketmaster would be handling the concert. they're definitely not. i
>just called them.

for what it's worth, the april 14th date is showing on the ticketmaster web
site. it wouldn't be in tm's listings if they weren't handling it.

deb

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my friend is writing a paper about women in music.  i was wondering if any
of you'll would like to voice your opinions and help her.  she would
greatly appreciate it. please reply back to :  kep9367@garnet.acns.fsu.edu

all
things
   indigo,

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i'm writing a paper and i wanted to ask you guys some questions about "girl
music" (ani difranco, tori amos, indigo girls, sarah mclaughlin, paula cole,
poe, sinead o'connor, milla, melissa ethridge, and even chics like meridith
brooks i've totally forgotten the name but the chic who sings you ought to
know from the album jagged little pill, and janis joplin)

well

the paper (i think) is going to be about if they are angry or not, is that
valid, what good does bitching do, are they just bitching,what is it about
these chics (and others you may think of) that we like? do they just sing for
women , or men too?

i guess i want to ask what you get from these women and what they say to you.
any ideas? if you have any thing to say i would appreciate it more than you
know.


i love you guys-kp

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subject:      total nigc:  a great show in atlanta this weekend!!
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howdy,

in appreciation to all (two) of you who replied to my question about
things to do in atlanta in a couple weeks, i thought i'd throw this idea
out:

this sunday (as in, 2 days from now), at smith's olde bar in atlanta, the
_young dubliners_ are playing...  for anyone who even _remotely_ enjoys
celtic rock music or feels like dancing a jig (or not), go see them,
please!!!  you'll thank me.  i saw them last night in philly -- absolutely
the most *fun* live show i've seen in ages!  for info, see their web page
at: www.youngdubs.com!

you won't regret it!!!!!!

deb

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subject:      emily song title???
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"noe even lovers have trouble at hand. what's your preference, where do
you stand? you get uptight about it, gonna fight about it. gonna fight
about love? that makes no sense to me..." *emily

hey all you ig guys and gals...does anyone know where this lyric comes
from? i forget where i read it but i love it and am wondering if anyone
knows that title or (even better) has a tape with the song???
e-mail privately or publically. haha...
:) cate

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hey folks-

since fridays are usually slow on the list anyway... here's some
bandwidth-wasting *presumably* nigc about some great music this weekend
in piedmont park, atlanta (where it's supposed to be "partly cloudy and
80 degrees")

music - atlanta dogwood festival

url: http://www.dogwood.org/shows.htm [copied directly from this site]

place: piedmont park

when: sat 4 april  10 am - 7 pm +
      sun 5 april  12 noon - 7 pm


the main stage
regional "rising star" musical performers of all musical
styles, as well as a few national-known artists with local
ties are one of the largest draws in the park. the main stage
offers around-the-clock entertainment on saturday and sunday.

artist's stage
this year, the festival is excited to welcome the artist's
stage. set near the artist show and concession cafe area,
this stage will feature acoustic musicians, specialty
performers, light jazz and blues. the entertainment on the
artist's stage will be simular to a concert in a town square.

times:  saturday, april 4th, 10:00 am - 7:00 pm +

    field stage - - - emcee: jerry farber

           12:00 pm  t-smith
            1:00 pm  king johnson
            2:00 pm  diane durrett
            3:00 pm  league of decency
            4:00 pm  ricky keller and friends
            5:00 pm  mk ultra
            6:00 pm  rhonda would [with caroline aiken]
            7:00 pm  gracie moon

    mountain stage - - - emcee: various & sundry characters

           11:30 am  angela motter band
           12:30 pm  greg hester band (st. simons island)
            1:30 pm  jeff mosier & blueground undergrass
            2:30 pm  vidalias
            3:30 pm  michelle penn band
            4:30 pm  david ryan harris
            5:30 pm  danielle howle & the tantrums (columbia, sc)
            6:30 pm  chris chandler band
           (comedy and acoustic music between sets)

    cd store/acoustic stage - - - emcee: uncle mark reynolds

           11:30 am  selene mccarthy
           12:00 pm  bibi farber (nyc)
           12:30 pm  john bancheri
            1:00 pm  gerard mchugh
            1:30 pm  bugaboos (children's show)
            2:00 pm  draper, reynolds & rodgers (knoxville, tn)
            2:30 pm  tammy fowler
            3:00 pm  uncle mark reynolds
            3:30 pm  michael mcnevin
            4:00 pm  kellie parr (st. simons island)
            4:30 pm  elizabeth cutler (nashville, tn)
            5:00 pm  rogers & nienhaus (nashville, tn)
            5:30 pm  johnny andrews & friends
            6:00 pm  henry murphy ensemble (gainesville, fl)

times: sunday, april 5th, 12:00 noon - 7:00 pm

    field stage - - - emcee: tim settimi, steve "boomer" sutton

           12:00 pm  wild west picture show
            1:00 pm  radiant city
            2:00 pm  josh joplin band
            3:00 pm  big fish ensemble [with michael lorant]
            4:00 pm  shock lobo
            5:00 pm  stereo popsicle
            6:00 pm  java monkey

    mountain stage - - - emcee: various & sundry characters

           11:30 am  gwen hughes band
           12:30 pm  same lost tribe
            1:30 pm  radar rose (roanoke, va)
            2:30 pm  salamandar tales
            3:30 pm  jennifer perry combo
            4:30 pm  dew
            5:30 pm  dayroom (athens)
           (comedy and acoustic music between sets)

    cd store/acoustic stage - - - emcee: andy offut irwin

           11:30 am  the well
           12:00 pm  sonia tetlow
           12:30 pm  lauren fincham
            1:00 pm  andy offut irwin (children's hour)
            2:00 pm  unplugged planet
            2:30 pm  lauren blackly (ashville, nc)
            3:00 pm  kevin danzig trio
            3:30 pm  karen capaldi (portland, or)
            4:00 pm  sean blackman & john arnold (boston)
            4:30 pm  sandra litrell
            5:00 pm  caren armstrong (san francisco)
            5:30 pm  delta moon with tom gray

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when i read this update i have to say my first
thought was "this sucks!".  not because of the $5 i
donated to the emily project, but because the project
was run so badly.  my great aunt dorthy helps run
claire house, iowa's only aids hospice, with much
less money than the billings people had raised.  in
fact, the house they use used to be a crack house.
they also have speakers come in, and invite anyone to
attend. shame on you billings house board.

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hi y'all,

i am taking a class called "the germans and the jews" and we are about to
get into the holocaust unit.  i was wondering if anyone would like to
start a new thread and discuss "this train revisited" since that song
obviously is about genocide, human rights abuses, and the holocaust.
also, holocaust remembrence day is coming up (23 april) and i think that
this would be a revelent topic.

btw, i really want the girls to play "the peace song" on the 21st in
kentucky, because that is what i am reading at the take back the night
rally.  but it seems to me that the chances are slim to none that will
actually happen...

have a good weekend everyone!  get some sunshine (that is actually
possible here in ohio today!  wow!)!!!!!!!!!!!!

:-) karen

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does anyone know where i can find information (preferably online because
i'm not currently in the chicago area) about the club park west?
specifically, i'm looking for on-sale info.
thanks.
teryn  :)

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in a message dated 98-03-27 16:15:29 est, s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu
writes:<<  i was wondering if anyone would like to
start a new thread and discuss "this train revisited" since that song
obviously is about genocide, human rights abuses, and the holocaust. >>

hi - isn't it this train "revised," not "revisited"??  when i saw the name of
the song for the first time, i thought it was the latter - it just seems to
make more sense, doesn't it.  and i've seen it written on boots and stuff like
that, too, but all of the "official" ig stuff says "revised" so that's how i
think it is.  anyway, if that's the way it is, does anyone know why the song
is called that?

this song does intrigue me, although i have to admit that it is my least
favorite song to listen to - not my least favorite song, mind you; it is just
so intense and painful that it's not a listening pleasure, not really a
"singalong."  the musicianship is awesome; it really brings a side of amy that
is not often seen (heard)....

my two bits
~flora

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>hi - isn't it this train "revised," not "revisited"??  when i saw the
name of
>the song for the first time, i thought it was the latter - it just
seems to
>make more sense, doesn't it.  and i've seen it written on boots and
stuff like
>that, too, but all of the "official" ig stuff says "revised" so that's
how i
>think it is.  anyway, if that's the way it is, does anyone know why the
song
>is called that?
>
well, i guess its because she took some of the lines from a woody
guthrie song called "this train."
amy "revised" it to speak of the holocaust.

i found an old post by sarah pinsker, probably from last november...i
guess i'll post this...

  "this train" (the original) is listed in rise up  singing (the coolest
  chordbook ever) without an author, and under the gospel section, but
i'm
  pretty sure its attributed to woody guthrie. he and pp &m both
recorded
  it, but i think it was his song. the original went:

  this train is bound for glory, this train(2x)
  this train is bound for glory, don't ride nothin' but the righteous
and
  the holy
  this train is bound for glory, this train

  this train don't carry no gamblers, this train (2x)
  this train don't carry no gamblers, no hot town women, no midnight
  ramblers
  this train don't carry no gamblers, this train

  this train is built for speed now/fastest train you ever did see
  this train don't carry no liars/no hypocrites and no high flyers
  this train don't pay no transportation/no jim crow no discrimination


  anyway, thats why amy's version is "this train (revised)"

  sarah
  spinsker@goucher.edu


yeah...so thats that.
carol


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in a message dated 98-03-27 16:44:10 est, fauna88@aol.com writes:

<< isn't it this train "revised," not "revisited"??  when i saw the name of
the song for the first time, i thought it was the latter - it just seems to
make more sense, doesn't it.  and i've seen it written on boots and stuff
like
that, too, but all of the "official" ig stuff says "revised" so that's how i
think it is.  anyway, if that's the way it is, does anyone know why the song
is called that? >>

it is called this train "revised" because it is a revised version of the old
woody guthrie song "this train".  amy took the wg song and changed it up a
little.

it does a lot to me, too.... but i don't like to talk about it because it
tears me up pretty badly.  i know a lady who is a concentration camp survivor
and i had her listen to tt(r) once... afterwards we talked and it's
amazing.... but anyway...

peace, harmony and indigo,

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i always thought it was "this train, revised"
huh...someone is currently borrowing that cd, so i can't look it up.
personally i think that the holocaust is a very important subject and ties
in with much of the activism that ig does, and we should maybe contribute
to the list the way my class did when i took "facing history and ourselves"
way back in high school, a class about the holocaust.  we spent a large
part of the class learning that great horrors like that start with
individuals, and so we had a project where we had to share something like a
great interest or talent with the rest of the class, something special, to
break down the personal barriers between people. it was very effective
because our school was sort of clique-ish and we had a wide cross section
of students in it from the senior class, and even now, when i run into
people nine years later, we are still friendly...
   in light of some of the negativity on this list i think it would be
interesting if we started a thread like that...i mean, we all know what we
have in common on this list...now let's find out something about each
person that we don't know.
    the only rule...respect.  don't make fun of, criticize, or be negative
to anyone about their special thing or piece of info that they share.
instead, let's try to be the "global community" that amy ray has
mentioned...
      peace,
              sharoane

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> from: indigo head <s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu>
> to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject: "this train" and the holocaust
> date: friday, march 27, 1998 4:15 pm
>
> hi y'all,
>
> i am taking a class called "the germans and the jews" and we are about to
> get into the holocaust unit.  i was wondering if anyone would like to
> start a new thread and discuss "this train revisited" since that song
> obviously is about genocide, human rights abuses, and the holocaust.
> also, holocaust remembrence day is coming up (23 april) and i think that
> this would be a revelent topic.
>
> btw, i really want the girls to play "the peace song" on the 21st in
> kentucky, because that is what i am reading at the take back the night
> rally.  but it seems to me that the chances are slim to none that will
> actually happen...
>
> have a good weekend everyone!  get some sunshine (that is actually
> possible here in ohio today!  wow!)!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> :-) karen
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if it were just revisited, then they'd be singing the original, which is an
old spiritual...an older friend of mine sang it for me once...the part in
the ig song that goes "this train is bound for glory" is part of the
original.  what ig did was revise the song to fit the new meaning. it's
sort of eerie...i believe it was a negro spiritual from slave days, and amy
"revised" it to be about the holocaust...
        peace,
               sharon

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> date: friday, march 27, 1998 4:41 pm
>
> in a message dated 98-03-27 16:15:29 est, s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu
> writes:<<  i was wondering if anyone would like to
>  start a new thread and discuss "this train revisited" since that song
>  obviously is about genocide, human rights abuses, and the holocaust. >>
>
> hi - isn't it this train "revised," not "revisited"??  when i saw the
name of
> the song for the first time, i thought it was the latter - it just seems
to
> make more sense, doesn't it.  and i've seen it written on boots and stuff
like
> that, too, but all of the "official" ig stuff says "revised" so that's
how i
> think it is.  anyway, if that's the way it is, does anyone know why the
song
> is called that?

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oops, sorry, i was typing that e-mail so fast in between classes and i
managed a major typo...yes, it *is* "revised", not "revisited".

again, sorry!

:-) karen

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<< amy "revised" it to speak of the holocaust. >>


erm, actually bob dylan revised the guthrie tune, and the ig's covered dylan's
verson. which is maybe why it's not much like the writing in other indigo
songs-- it's not actually their song, go figure <wink>

grace

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hey folks,

this comes from the ig-news list...

sherlyn

ps - everything lynda said is a lie. :)


>from: pwboston <pwboston@aol.com>
>date: fri, 27 mar 1998 18:45:29 est
>to: ig-news@smoe.org
>subject: [ig-news] lilith fair cd tracks/april 28 release
>sender: owner-ig-news@smoe.org
>
>
>arista releasing lilith fair: a celebration of women in music; live double cd
>hits streets april 28
>
>    new york--(entertainment wire)--march 27, 1998--
>
>         features sarah mclachlan, paula cole, indigo girls,
>shawn colvin, & more!
>
>    on the heels of last summer's hottest tour, comes sonic documentation of
>lilith fair live on a double cd with 25 songs. entitled "lilith fair: a
>celebration of women in music," it is set for release on arista on april
28th.
>the music encapsulates a diverse mix of the talented female musicians that
>made lilith fair the very special and breakthrough festival -- and most
>successful package -- tour of last summer. the tour was organized and founded
>by sarah mclachlan who was instrumental in the completion of the cd.
>
>    "lilith fair: a celebration of women in music" combines the talented mix
>of the main stage, village stage and "b" stage artists of every calibre,
>stature, and musical sensibility. sarah mclachlan commented: "one of the
>philosophies of lilith fair is to help others, therefore our desire is to
>showcase not only popular mainstage artists, but to bring attention to lesser
>known and emerging artists. we are also continuing our support of non profit
>organizations by donating 50% of the proceeds of this cd to rainn (rape,
abuse
>and incest national network, founded by tori amos) and lifebeat (the music
>industry organization in the fight against aids). i am very proud to be a
part
>of this and i thank you all for your involvement in this labor of love." -0-
>*t
>
>lilith fair: a celebration of women in music track listing:
>
>1st cd paula cole                      "mississippi" indigo girls
>"scooter boys" auteur de lucie                 "sur tes pas" cardigans
>"been it" dayna manning                   "i want" abra moore
>"four leaf clover" lisa loeb                       "falling in love"
september
>sixty-seven           "the loneliness of the long distance
>
>                                 runner" lhasa                           "el
>payande" suzanna hoffs                   "eternal flame" suzanne vega
>"rock in my pocket" joan osborne                    "ladder" sarah mclachlan
>"building a mystery"
>
>2nd cd sarah with jewel and the   indigo girls                   "the
water is
>wide" emmylou harris                  "going back to harlan" meredith brooks
>"wash my hands" patty griffen                   "cain" wild strawberries
>"i don't want to think about it" dar williams                    "what do you
>hear in these sounds" shawn colvin                    "trouble" yung chen
lamo
>"lama dorje chang" tracey bonham                   "the one" wild colonials
>"charm" tara maclean                    "jordan" victoria williams
>"perry winkle sky" *t -0-     you can catch lilith fair '98 when it begins
>june 19th in portland, ore. and continues nationwide.
>
>
>
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in a message dated 98-03-27 19:11:32 est, kilorria7s@aol.com writes:

<< erm, actually bob dylan revised the guthrie tune, and the ig's covered
dylan's
verson. which is maybe why it's not much like the writing in other indigo
songs-- it's not actually their song, go figure <wink>
  >>

no way.  this is an amy tune.  if it was a dylan song, they'd have credited
dylan with the writing of it.  right there in the cd booklet it says "written
by amy ray."

in the faq (copyright jcsdoubled) it states: ""this train revised" was
inspired both by amy's visit to theholocaust museum in washington dc and by
woody guthrie's song "this train".  the original "this train" was about the
righteous riding
into heaven.  in an interview in the december 1994 issue of "deneuve" amy
said, "i went to the holocaust museum and it really affected me.  there's a
lot now that's being uncovered about the homosexual experience of the
holocaust and how it affected those survivors.  at the museum it's made very
clear that although jews were by far the main victims of the holocaust, there
were many others, too.  i really
need to write about these feelings."

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
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"this train" is such a powerful song to me...the images brought to mind by
amy's words are haunting.  her description of victims (dancer with no legs,
healer with no hands, writer with no voice, etc) as once (holding) life's
questions and answers, their lifeless bodies now stacked like wood, and her
final devastating line "here is potential gone for good" is probably the most
pointed description of the horror of the holocaust that i have ever heard.

maureen

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i am still working on my term paper regarding "this train revised" and it is
cominmg along great....at the msg show this june, amy read a statement by the
u.s. president before she started into "this train revised" ...it was so
emotional...the song is so intense...i love it..

jen

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hey everyone, since we are on the topic of seats at concerts, i have seen the
girls once and i was in the first row!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it was the best
experience of my life and there will never be a better concert then theirs.  i
will remember it always!!
               peace, love and indigo
                        jackie

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my favorite song is leeds and virginia woolf!!!

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omg - i wasn't even looking, but i found an even better emily look-alike
today!!!!  even better than the last i told you about?  yup!  i couldn't
believe it either!  she came up to me at the hotel (i work as a front desk
agent) and had to ask a few questions....with the cutest french accent!!!
(she's from canada)  lord, was she an emily looker!  aww....her smile.
<shaking head>  sorry, i got carried away :)

if i could scan a memory...i'd send it to y'all via e-mail!  hmm....sounds
like a new song title! lol

~miz*

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hey...
i usually have respect for david letterman but i thought that he cheated ani
by only letting her perform...he should have interviewed her and exposed the
rest of the world to this great talent...

jen

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someone whose e-mail address i've lost wrote:

> << isn't it this train "revised," not "revisited"??  when i saw the name of
>  the song for the first time, i thought it was the latter - it just seems to
>  make more sense, doesn't it.  and i've seen it written on boots and stuff
> like
>  that, too, but all of the "official" ig stuff says "revised" so that's how i
>  think it is.  anyway, if that's the way it is, does anyone know why the song
>  is called that? >>

so, this is a bit off the wall, but i was just wondering if the person who
posted that question is american or not.  because... i believe the word
"revise"  is used differently in britain than it is in the u.s.  for
instance, in britain you'd say you "revise for a test" where here we'd say
you "review for a test".  and we'd say "revise a paper" meaning to rewrite
the paper, but probably in britain it would mean to review or study it.
so "this train, revised" would sound like it means something like "this
train, reviewed" or "this train, studied" and that would sound weird but
it really means "this train, rewritten".  by amy.  not dylan.

okay, like you cared...

alison

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last semester i took a class called road to the holocaust and in class we
watched a movie called "the shoah".  it's a nnine hour documentary and
includes a number of interviews, historical lessons and other important
first hand stories realting to the holocaust.  i'm glad someone brought
this subject up because i'm an avid studier and learner of the holocausst.
my junior year in high school, i went on a trip called themarch of the
living where i spent a week in poland visiting all 6 death camps and a
handful of concentration camps.  i don't think there is a darker or eerier
place on this planet.  yet, i digress.
  anyhow, what i wanted to say was in the movie we watched, one of the
interviewees is describing the first sites he saw as soon as he entered
teh camp and his words were something as follows, "as i stepped off the
train and out onto the platform, all i could see around me were bodies....
stacked like wood."  totally ironic.

mike d.

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this song touches me so deeply. every time i hear it (especially the 1200
curfews version) i can just feel what happened to those poor people. i've
analyzed this song in school for my bible class (we were talking about jacob
so i took in the 1200 curfews version w/ the jacob's ladder part). anyway, a
lot of people were touched by it. it's so powerful, i think it's one of the
best songs amy's ever written. just my input!
dana

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... crossposted to the indigo girls list, the dar williams
list and everybody else i could think of...

we had a bit of a mix-up and we're going to have to move the
ig/dar-list get together from sunday april 5 to the weekend
after, sunday april 12.  all other details stay the same -
it'll be a picnic/bbq in katoomba, bring your own food/drink,
let me know if you need a ride from/back to the sydney area
and i can arrange that...

rsvp to me as soon as you can - even if you rsvp'd for the
original meet.  everybody who said they'd come on the 5th
is absolutely expected to come on the 12th instead, and
everybody who said they couldn't come on the 5th is expected
to come as well.  so there. :)

oh, and sydney-area folks, don't forget - andy white next
saturday night, iris dement on april 11, michelle shocked
on april 27/28... let me know if you need more details...

happy happy!  (kirsti, i had a great day, thanks - :)
sherlyn
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every time i visit  the anne frank house in amserdam, all i can
think of is "this train" and "virginia woolf". some of the things in
"this train" like "bound for glory...." - when the trains to the
concentration camps started, the jews were told that they would be
"working for the greater good of germany" - that's one
interpretation of that line, and gives the line meaning for me. we
must never forget hat happened to people like anne frank, and these
songs, and places like the anne frank house keeps it real for us.

oh yeah - and the reason i think of "virginia woolf" is because i
always feel a connection with anne whenever i visit the house (which
is every time i go to amsterdam....)

john.


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the torment is being in."

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in a message dated 98-03-28 00:42:52 est, babyindigo@aol.com writes:

<< i usually have respect for david letterman but i thought that he cheated
ani
by only letting her perform...he should have interviewed her and exposed the
rest of the world to this great talent... >>

did anybody tape this, i completely forgot... i have stuff to trade...lemme
know
peace
sasha

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so, what ever happened with this deal?  someone mentioned that b. dylan really
wrote this and amy redid it, but that is sooooooooo hard to believe.  wouldnt
a ray have given credit to bob?      just wonderin...........trooper

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yellow!

1) a while back, someone posted an article/quote..amy was talking about
ani, saying something about ani being a goddess. could someone email it to
me? thanks!

2)thanks to everyone who helped me for my women&fairy tales paper. i'm
currently into *intensive* reading. its very interesting, and i also found
*cool* fairy tales, that i cant wait to read to my children.. (but yeah,
that will be in a couple of years..) thanks y'all, your help is very
appreciated.

july ;)
(cathy, i'll be writing soon! see the adjective qualifying *reading*.. ;p)

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hi,

i have just recieved a copy of the melbourne australia (2/21/98) tape, thanks
to our fearless leader, sherlyn =).   if you would like to be a branch in the
tape tree, and have *definite* plans on following through on this, please
email me and we can work out the details.

tape details:  100 minutes
set list: shame on you, hammer and a nail, dead man's hill, it's alright, land
of canaan, get out the map, don't give that girl a gun, virginia woolf,
reunion, power of two, cut it out/wish you were here, least complicated,
chickenman, galileo, kid fears, leeds, romeo & juliet, closer to fine

thanks!
lisa

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hkf-

i found the people magazine article that we've been referring to - for those
interested in going to the library to look it up- it starts on page 43 of the
august 8, 1994 issue- with julia roberts on the cover. the indigo girls are
under 'song' and the article is called 'out of the blue.'

(very cute pix imho)

also, (please don't flame me) but i saw ani on letterman and it seems to me-
as an outsider to her music- that she doesn't sing. i'm not saying she can't
sing, but i didn't hear her try, she just talked. and she didn't do what i
would call 'play' the guitar as much as she strummed here and there in the
background over her spoken word stuff. is this what she does on all her songs?
because, the words were clever and i might read them as prose sometime, but it
wasn't my idea of music, ya know? plus, the lyrics were all about how she
doesn't want to be considered a feminist role model (yawn).

i agreed with whoever wanted to hear dave interview her- i would like to know
how her sitting in the guest chair talking would differ from her standing with
her guitar talking.

~peace, leah

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hi all-
i tried to send this message once before, but i don't think it made it, so
if this is a repeat performance, sorry!!

i have a friend who's hopelessly obsessed with sarah mclachlan, and she's
jealous of my indigo girls boot tapes, so i was wondering if anyone out
there has some sarah boots to trade with me so i can give it to my lovely
friend.  of particular interest would be the show at the oakland
paramount theatre in late 1997 (i don't know the exact date).  if you've
got some that you're willing to trade, let me know and i'll send you my
list (of ig stuff).
thanks much!
leslie

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yes yes yes! most definitely "kid fears".  :-)  has anyone heard that in
concert?  i haven't seen it on any of the lists that have been floating
around.  i am singing it for a talent competition next month, and am soooo
excited!  have ya'll heard the little story behind it about agnes scott in
decatur? i am on an ig high right now.  i just came back from a 30 mile hike
in north carolina....and when it got really cold and i thought i couldn't go
on anymore, my friend and i started singing ig. :)  such happy moments. :)
oh, and a friend told me she saw amy ray when she was in a little place
listening to billy pilgrim.  she said amy had her gf with her--who is that
right now?  anyone know?  well...i hope you all had a terrific week and
everything is going well.  smile! :)

love,
katie

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ok, i was thinking ahead to the dickinson show, and i was pondering song
request signs.  then i remembered on the live at the uptown video amy
said that they had to relearn walk away, which i guess makes me realize
that they must forget songs.  soooooooooo, my question to all of you
people who would know better than me, what are the chances that amy would
sing carry me away, or for them to do american tune (they still do that
one, right?) or weakness in me??  think there is any?  reply privately if
you have any clue, or if you have good advice about getting them to see
signs and stuff like that! :)  thanks a bunch!!

carolyn
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mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time,
the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn,
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ok group!  i'm ready for 12 happy folks who feel it their grand destiny to be
the branches for the tree.  this is feb. 24, queensland performing arts
complex, brisbane australia.  it's 90 mins.  here's the setlist:

side a:
mystery
land of canaan
get out the map
don't give that girl a gun
hammer and a nail
shame on you
power of two
this train (revised)
virginia woolf

side b:
hey kind friend
it's alright
i don't wanna know
leeds
romeo & juliet
galileo
chickenman
least complicated <cut>
cut it out <cut>

the first 12 people to email me with brisbane branch in the subject line (and
make sure it's in caps so i don't delete it) will get the extreme privilege of
being branches for this boot :)

peace, harmony and indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygotiggr@aol.com)
  -  novitiate of suzanneglassism
    -  president, grlchasr26 fan club
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"getting tigger down," said eeyore, "and not hurting
anybody.  keep those two ideas in your head, piglet, and
you'll be all right."
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date:         sat, 28 mar 1998 17:37:09 -0800
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hey all--
i'm going to be away from email for a week, so anybody who's trying to
contact me about the 1/27 warfield boot or other such things, don't be
offended if i don't write back!  i'll respond to your messages in a week,
and get y'all your tapes!  sorry to the %90 of people on this list for whom
that is totally irrelevant!!

oh, and i have to share a little glory--i just walked into this room at my
work, and what do i hear?  blood and fire!!  this was *without* my pressure
to put ig on.  oh, success.  i introduced her to ig this summer, and she's
*still* listening!  i love it.

later--
leslie

+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+
beautiful, inspirational, and/or story-of-my-life
emily saliers line of the week:

"dance the edge of sanity, i've never been this close"
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> ok, i was thinking ahead to the dickinson show, and i was pondering song
> request signs.  then i remembered on the live at the uptown video amy
> said that they had to relearn walk away, which i guess makes me realize
> that they must forget songs.  soooooooooo, my question to all of you
> people who would know better than me, what are the chances that amy would
> sing carry me away, or for them to do american tune (they still do that
> one, right?) or weakness in me??  think there is any?  reply privately if
> you have any clue, or if you have good advice about getting them to see
> signs and stuff like that! :)  thanks a bunch!!

   last summer at the indianapolis lilith fair, we talked to emily for a
few minutes, and asked her if they could play "love will come to you".
she said that she would love to, but they hadn't rehearsed it in a long
time, especially with the band.
   but who knows...

   darius

"ask your saint who he is.
ask him who he's killed."
    ---carvaggio, "the english patient"

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   i have a favour to ask of y'all...does anybody have a good quality
bootleg of michelle malone and the ig singing the stones' "wild horses"?
   i've never done the boot thing before, but i'm looking for a copy of
that song for my little sister.  (lilith memories from last summer...)
thanks much!

   darius

"ask your saint who he is.
ask him who he's killed."
    ---carvaggio, "the english patient"

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well, marginal ig content anyhow.

i got my copy of cooper seay's latest in the mail friday. it's fabulous.
really, really, really good  stuff.

and on a note that will undoubtedly get me flamed, i must say this: if cut it
out struck you as raw emotions, check out "interlude" on this cd (it  contains
the line "everybody thinks you shamed the sun." and a wail that goes "i dont
wanna know. i dont wanna hear it.  go away." maybe it's not about you-know-
who, but it's interesting nonetheless)

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