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<< are there any songs written by emily where amy sings the lead....and
the other way around?
>>
crazy game (amy sing lead in some parts)
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 02:20:51 edt
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hey kiddos...
well, we are going to count up all the names for the petition tomorrow
(friday) so i just wanted to let all of you know that if you wanna have your
name added for the letter that we are sending the schools, you better get all
over it partner, cause friday is the cutoff before we print and send. and by
the way, thank all of you that did send me or nikk (ysobelle@aol.com) your
name, weve gotta speak for what we believe in..
thankyou all again, and take good cares.
love and sugarcanes,
tara.
"yeah, we only cuss at the
beginning of the show, the rest of the time we're just gay."
~amy ray
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date: thu, 21 may 1998 23:49:59 edt
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in a message dated 98-05-21 17:18:12 edt, dan@tcdrs.org writes:
<< crazy game? emily wrote it, doesn't amy sing it? >>
yup. and also, wasn't "everybody's waiting for someone to come home" the same
deal?
peace,
rick
listening to: ella is god (fitzgerald mix tape ;)
http://members.aol.com/rbsayre/cheese.html
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 01:15:48 -0400
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anyone have a schedule of who's playing at eddie's attic (or
elsewhere in hotlanta) between 5/26 and 6/6? i'm heading home for a
little while...
in other news, did anyone read about the guy (blake guthrie) from
decatur who recently released a tape called "i lost my woman to an indigo
girl"...there's a blurb about it at
http://www.creativeloafing.com/newsstand/current/v_releas.htm from the new
creative loafing online....
darren
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 01:36:57 -0000
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don't get out of danted cars and knows where their copy is get back with
me. missy
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 00:45:30 -0000
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what is the date for the kettering, ohio one and can anyone send the set
list for it and the dayton one. i want to make sure the songs are right
because i had a hard time reading the writing. missy
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 00:54:27 -0500
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i went to see her again tonight (she plays every thursday at
utopia) and she does not disappoint. she's got the most
amazing voice. with subtle changes she goes from sounding
like melissa ethridge to sheryl crow to emily saliers.
she's just amazing! that's all there is to it. i went up
and talked to her for a few minutes after the set. she's
recording an album this summer. it will be available in
the fall.
sorry for nigc, i just wanted to share with you all. she
does cover about 5 ig songs each set. :) she even played
ctf twice tonight because some of her friends showed up late
and missed it the first time. :) pretty cute! oh well...
later!
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 02:23:29 -0400
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here's a couple of little ig blurbs from this week's atlanta creative
loafing:
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decatur's tongue-in-cheek balladeer blake guthrie debuted
his hilarious new self-produced cassette 'i lost my woman
to an indigo girl' last week at eddie's attic. the crudely
packaged homemade effort (whose contents nevertheless put
to shame what's inside most slick professional cd boxes)
takes its title from a line in guthrie's song "she's not
playing for the home team," about a man whose girlfriend
deserts him for another woman. longtime attic regular
uncle mark reynolds was slack-jawed after guthrie's live
performance of the tune, gasping, "he walked right into
the chapel and preached against the chaplain!" after a
moment's contemplation reynolds added, "but, you know, i
bet amy ray would love that song. if somebody gave her a
copy, she'd probably do it as an encore sometime."
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who on this list wouldn't give a lot to see and hear amy do that one?
;)
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eddie owen of eddie's attic was interviewed by the tv
series hard copy for a recent segment about the parental
protests which resulted in cancellation of some dates on
the indigo girls' tour of american high schools.
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did anyone on the list happen to see that episode of hard copy? i
remember that lisa d mentioned that hard copy had been to town... but i
don't recall seeing any mention of it since then. i just wondered how
the report about ig came across on tabloid tv... did anyone see it?
feel free to email privately if you saw it...
btw, if you're interested in what's going on in atlanta -- and many here
seem to be -- you can read creative loafing weekly online (published as
a freebie newspaper every wednesday) at:
<http://www.creativeloafing.com/newsstand/current/index.html>
:o)
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 12:41:58 +0100
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on fri, 22 may 1998, lynda raina wrote:
> michigan womyn*s music festival
> august 11th - 16th 1998
>
<snip>
> night stage
> kinnie starr
> rhiannon
> teresa trull and barbara higbie
does anyone know anything about this duo? i know they are from
california, that higbie was on windham hill and played with darol anger
and michael manring, ferron and cris williamson among others, and that
teresa trull was a producer for olivia, but has anyone got any other info
on them? is their latest album worth a listen?
mat
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 10:19:03 -0400
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who has seen the galileo video? well i love this video, and the whole
reincarnation type theme...and the little quotes running throughout *i'm a
big huge quote freak* anyways, i wrote them down and i'm gonna list
them...but i don't know why. i could just say it's because i can, and
that would satisfy me - but i dunno if it would satisfy anyone else *heh*
anyway...
"i had trouble with puberty every time." - emily
"i struggled daily with the voice of the devil lurking in my bones." - amy
"i was gorgeous and mindless - it was fun." - amy
"i feared the pain of childbirth but got over it. and over it. and over
it." - emily
"hand carved by an elderly doll maker, i was his favorite. i was treated
like a son." - amy
"i gave my milk ungrudgingly to a man with rough hands who ate my
brother." - emily (picture of a cow)
"i was timid and subservient. i didn't go far." - emily
"like the chrome on a '53 caddy. i was shiny and stuck out." - emily
"if i died in a plane crash once before, i don't have to do it again.
right?" - emily
"i was the dust that accumulated on the cover of a russian orthodox
bible." - emily
"i was a priest. i thought about god and sex all the time." - amy
"i did wrong." - amy
"water retention is not new to me." - emily (picture of a watermelon)
"i married badly, but divorced well." - amy
"i was a cute fuzzy bear cub." - amy
"no i was a cute fuzzy bear cub." - emily
"i was." - amy
"no, i was." - emily
"no wonder some of my best songs come to me in the shower." - amy
"i was insignificant. it bugged me." - amy (picture of an insect/bug)
"i lived an entire life within 20 miles of where i was born." - amy
"maybe we're more than who we think we are." - emily
"or maybe not." - amy
*************************************************************************
the one that i think is funniest is the bear cub one...the one that
strikes me is the "i did wrong" one...because of its simplicity. it is
also coupled with (i'm assuming it was) amy completely under a blanket
rocking back and forth...it was poignant to me.
here's what you can respond to: does anyone else love this video as much
as me (if you've seen it)? do you love another video better and why?
joking is a close second...i love amy on lead, and emily actually looks
kinda butch in it and *drools* :)
and *i promise i'll stop babbling in a minute* on the "songs taking time
to grow on you* i felt that way with "touch me fall" - i could _not_ get
into it. i didn't deny that it was a good song...just i couldn't sink my
teeth into it. but they have the video for it on watershed and it gave me
new perspective - "touch me, i'm so beautiful..." it chills me now...weird
huh?
*shuts up* :)
--audra
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but my heart is wired." - ani difranco
(aka goddess)
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 10:16:14 -0400
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> > michigan womyn*s music festival
<cut>
> > teresa trull and barbara higbie
>
> does anyone know anything about this duo? i know they are from
> california, that higbie was on windham hill and played with darol
> anger and michael manring, ferron and cris williamson among others,
> and that teresa trull was a producer for olivia, but has anyone got
> any other info on them? is their latest album worth a listen?
i recognize the name teresa trull, because she did some of the music for
the movie "claire of the moon" (lesbian coming-out flick, not great art)
-- "desert hearts" beats it on every level for mature woman coming-out
films, *especially* it's great classic 50's desert hearts soundtrack --
it truly kicks-ass!
**speaking of which -- does anybody know where one can get out-of-print
cd soundtracks for small indie films like desert hearts? (circa 1985;
samuel goldwyn co, production)
any help would be appreciated... or if anyone has it and would be
willing to make a dub...?
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press release from the national gay and lesbian task force
(dated 15 may 98)
from: <http://www.ngltf.org/press/amyray.html>
statement from amy ray of the indigo girls
the idea of a high school tour came about after emily
and i were judges in a student lyric writing contest
sponsored by scholastic magazine. the words we read begged
for and exalted in the chance to be expressed. the broad
range of topics included: political activism, love, sonnets,
sexual abuse and alienation. we were struck by the students'
energy and willingness to engage in and question life. the
intent of this tour was apolitical. after carefully reading
and approving our lyrical content 6 high schools agreed to
host a free show which included a question and answer
session. the expenses were to be covered by the indigo girls.
we have had 3 shows canceled, citing reasons such as
profanity and most importantly sexual preference. the
profanity issue is an obvious red herring -- the irony being
that we have more often been accused of being too spiritual
and "clean." a minority composed of homophobic narrow minded
parents and weak kneed principals and schools boards have
successfully enforced a policy of hate. our public schools
should be a safe environment for an open exchange of ideas
and a chance to explore one's own individuality.
the impossibility and hypocrisy of a situation where
kids are expected to be honest but are judged and alienated
from their community because of it should not escape us. in
response to these circumstances we are playing alternate
shows -- alcohol free, all ages, after school. thanks to the
kids who are standing by us.
amy ray
indigo girls
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 13:27:28 edt
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in a message dated 98-05-22 04:30:28 edt, you write:
<< did anyone on the list happen to see that episode of hard copy? i
remember that lisa d mentioned that hard copy had been to town... but i
don't recall seeing any mention of it since then. i just wondered how
the report about ig came across on tabloid tv... did anyone see it?
>>
i can't remember where i heard this, probably from one of my newsie friends..
and i don't know how accurate it is.. but from what i heard.. apparently hard
copy was trying to get the dirt on the ig, and response to all the high school
cancellations, and eddie, didn't give them anything (negative) to work with so
they scrapped the story.
that's what i heard.. anyone else??
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 10:38:52 -0700
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---kathleen mulhern wrote:
>
> so now another kid has not only opened fire at a
school near eugene, oregon, killing one of his
teachers and wounding over a dozen of his classmates,
but on his way to kill people at his school he
murdered his
> mother and father.
he was voted most likely to start world war three by
his classmates. does anyone else find that a) freaky
and b) think maybe that couldda f*cked with his head
even a little more than it was already messed up?
amanda
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no, have you?/so he called me a dyke and i said yeah
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 20:18:14 +0100
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subject: indigo trek (gotta be some igc somewhere in this...)
voice of sherlyn : "music : the final frontier. these are the
voyages of the starship indigo. our mission : to seek out new
lifeforms, and to spread love of the ig. and to boldly go where no list
has gone before!"
cue titles : the words "indigo trek", in th style of the original
star trek title. and the theme song, sung to the tune of the
original star trek theme (with bongo drums by jerry):
"closer i am to fine, closer i am to fine, closer i am to fine,
closer i am to fine!!!!"
voice of captain koo "captain's log. stardate :4366478428784.1. we
are patrolling the spice nebula, trying to find any evidence of
decent music. privately, i think it is a hopeless and, frankly,
boring task. meanwhile, barb and twink continue their argument about
a late 20th century tune called "bamboleo" performed by a group
known as "the gypsy kings". it gives them something to do, i
suppose..."
barb "once again, doctor twink, i have checked the computer
databanks. the song in the advert for a company known as "burger
king". it was "bamboleo"."
twink "darn you and your vulcan logic, barb! i'm a doctor, not a
database!"
(suddenly, red lights flash all over the ship...)
computer (with a voice that swaps between amy and emily, depending
which ig it likes at the time) : "red alert, y'all!!!! red alert,
y'all!!!"
sherlyn "what is it, barb?"
barb "captain, there is a strange vessel delurking in front
of us. although it seems to be of netspace design, it is a type not
seen by any ships for many years."
twink "they're hailing us, sherlyn!"
sherlyn "on screen."
(suddenly, a tall, well tanned human with long flowing hair, and
perfect muscles appears on screen (it's my story, it's my ego.....))
twink "my god, can it be!?!?!"
barb "quite possible, doctor."
sherlyn "lieutenant john bond, is it really you?"
(well, i had to get in on this story somehow...) "yes captain, it's
me. i'm sorry that i've been out of contact for so long, but
it's been with good reason."
barb "what happened to you, lieutenant? the last thing we heard from
your ship was that you had come out as a bisexual, and then there
was no contact until now. where did you go? the last known location
for your ship was near the area known as the "lurking zone""
me "well, i was drawn into the zone because i heard there was some
work that needed to be done there, which only my ship was equipped to
handle."
sherlyn "you look like you've been in a few battles, lieutenant. who
attacked you?"
me "i was attacked by a ace of beings known as the dissertation, a
large and unrelenting, extremely hostile force. fortunately, i
managed to fight them off, and finish off the rest of the work. it
did take some time however, and i need to travel to another galacy
for a while, to rest and repair"
barb "lieutenant bond, before you dissapeared you were due to
transmit various tapes known as "trades" to key starships within
the netspace federation. when can we expect these to arrive."
me "as soon as possible, doctor barb. as soon as i can get hold of a
suitable piece of equipment, i'll transmit the tapes through the
system known as "the mail service". expect these within the next few
months."
sherlyn "lieutenant, how can we contact you?"
me "well, captain, due to the large workload, my communications
equipment has been partially damaged. however, you can still contact
me by writing to :
john bond,
35 grove road,
gosport,
hampshire,
po12 4jh,
england.
or, you can use an e-mail system, which i will use when i can get to
a suitable computer. my e-mail address is :
john_bond@mailcity.com
i'll use that as often as i can, though not regularly."
barb "hailing frequencies closed captain. the ship has moved off at
warp 2."
twink "well sherlyn, this whole experience has left me pondering one
thing"
sherlyn "what's that, twink"
twink "how much i love that accent!"
---------------------------------------------------
well, that's it. sorry for the waste of the bw, but it was one of
the only ways i could think of to say farewell. although i haven't
been on the list for a long time, i've loved my time on the list,
and you've definitely broadened my knowledge, introduced me to a lot
of music, and i've made a lot of good friends. i'll try and send
occassional messages, and if you bothered to read all of that
message up there, you should know how to contact me. thanks
y'all!!!!
john.
"there is no torment in coming out.
the torment is being in."
armistead maupin
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 14:55:21 edt
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too, too much time on your hands.
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 14:09:24 -0500
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subject: nigc: trull & higbie (was re: mwmf - line up)
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matthew j smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk> asked:
> > teresa trull and barbara higbie
>
> does anyone know anything about this duo? i know they are from
> california, that higbie was on windham hill and played with darol anger
> and michael manring, ferron and cris williamson among others, and that
> teresa trull was a producer for olivia, but has anyone got any other info
> on them? is their latest album worth a listen?
i don't have their new album yet, and haven't heard it, but based on their
previous work together, it's *way* high on my "i want this" list. besides
being an accomplished producer/arranger, teresa trull is a dynamic
performer in her own right. her solo work is pretty much pop/rock with a
strong blues base. (think michelle malone with more of a polished pop
sensibility, sort of.) she's a little tiny redhead with one of the most
powerful voices i've ever heard. barbara higbie's solo work is
pop/folk/jazz sorta, mostly built around her gorgeous piano arrangements.
their previous album together, "unexpected," is one of my all-time
favorites -- and might well appeal to a number of ig's fans. (it's just
been released on cd, *finally*!, and it's also way way way high on my "i
need this now" list.)
expect polished arrangements, soulful lyrics, gorgeous vocals, and a lot
of heart. i'm just thrilled that these two have gotten back together for
another recording and i can't wait till i recover from paying the mechanic
(grrrrrr... but the car *does* have to have brakes, i guess...) so i can
buy it & see whether it lives up to my expectations. they're really good
in concert, too... then again, i'd probably follow teresa trull
anywhere.... when she's "on," her performances are up there with michelle
malone in terms of charisma and power vocals. darn cute, too. :-)
-anne, who'd have a lot more cd's if she'd won powerball this week
anne haines * ahaines@indiana.edu * http://php.indiana.edu/~ahaines/
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 15:13:38 edt
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hey y'all!
it's me, karen from wittenberg. i just resubscribed under my aol address b/c
the wittenberg server is going down for a few days.
anyway, i found the n*i*s songbook yesterday. also, if any if any of you are
looking for songbooks and are in the chicago area, try the old town school of
folk music. i think that they had them all except for swamp-o.
anyway, that's all for now...
:-) karen
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 16:18:40 edt
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peeps!!
okay i was wrong- the other emily song that amy sings mostly on wasn't
'everybody's waiting for someone to come home'- rather it was 'don't give up
on me baby'.
not that anyone cares at this point, but i guess i'm an anal perfectionist.
peace,
rick
who just booked a flight to go to atlanta pride!!!
listening to: erykah badu/baduizm
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 16:26:54 edt
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in a message dated 98-05-22 14:46:09 edt, you write:
> i can't remember where i heard this, probably from one of my newsie
friends..
> and i don't know how accurate it is.. but from what i heard.. apparently
hard
> copy was trying to get the dirt on the ig, and response to all the high
school
> cancellations, and eddie, didn't give them anything (negative) to work with
so
> they scrapped the story.
> that's what i heard.. anyone else??
i actually asked eddie about it a few nights ago, and he said he didn't think
they aired it. he said he actually didn't want to participate in the
interview that they did at the attic, but he thought it would be easier just
to let them in, rather than fighting them. you're definitely right - they
were looking for dirt and couldn't find any.
lisa
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 16:33:03 -0400
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hi,
i'm suzie and i just got on the list today.
i don't know what this message about these two songs refers to ,but i've
never heard of either of them, so could someone fill me in--at least what
the songs are from. i like to call myself a huge ig fan, but maybe i'm out
of touch.
thank you!
at 04:18 pm 5/22/98 edt, rbsayre wrote:
>peeps!!
>
>okay i was wrong- the other emily song that amy sings mostly on wasn't
>'everybody's waiting for someone to come home'- rather it was 'don't give up
>on me baby'.
>
>not that anyone cares at this point, but i guess i'm an anal perfectionist.
>
>peace,
> rick
>who just booked a flight to go to atlanta pride!!!
>listening to: erykah badu/baduizm
>
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 07:49:20 pdt
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hey there,
i'm an australian in london who's heard that the ig are performing at
the guiness fleadh in june. i'm going to be in ny in june. are there
any nice people on the list who could let me know ticket
prices/location/availability etc? i'd be forever grateful.
could you please reply to me privately at gregthorpe@hotmail.com as i
don't subscribe to the list anymore.
thank you!
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 20:39:14 +0100
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subject: well, i'm leaving....
ok, i'm afraid i'm signing off for the last time. any mail anybody
wants to send me, just send it to :
john_bond@mailcity.com
see y'all again sometime,
john.
"there is no torment in coming out.
the torment is being in."
armistead maupin
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 19:27:43 -0400
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play with gay jesus figure canceled
(ap) - the curtain won't be rising on a new terrence mcnally play
featuring a homosexual christlike figure. manhattan theater club said it
will not stage the award-winning playwright's "corpus christi" in this
fall, according to published reports. the recent announcement of plans to
produce the play sparked an outcry from religious groups. but manhattan
theater club said it was canceling the production because of security
concerns. neither mcnally nor the theater would comment further. mcnally,
who has won three tony awards for his plays "master class," "kiss of the
spider woman" and "love! valour! compassion!" was nominated this year for
his book of the musical "ragtime." "corpus christi" was read last month at
the off-broadway theater, where many of his plays have originated.
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 22:51:04 pdt
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hi everyone!
i hope i'm not out of line by announcing this here, but i figured the
list is a great resource. i've got 4 upper-reserved-seat tix for sale
for the wednesday 6/24 lilith fair show at shoreline, ca (mountain
view). indigo girls are scheduled to perform at this show. if you're
interested, please email me privately for details.
peace & sunny dayz to all!
sheri
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date: sat, 23 may 1998 02:14:38 -0400
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subject: interesting item on ebay web site item#14587031: indigo girls
promo poster
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i saw this item for sale at ebay, the internet's largest person-to-person auction site, and thought that you might be interested.
title of item: indigo girls promo poster
seller: tb2945@atlantic.net
starts: 05/19/98 11:38:00 pdt
ends: 05/26/98 11:38:00 pdt
price: starts at $7.99
to bid the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=14587031
item description:
indigo girls "swamp ophelia" 1994 sony music records promo poster, measures 24"x36", very good condition, see pic.
mailed rolled, add $4 shipping
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date: sat, 23 may 1998 03:17:01 edt
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subject: fwd: indigogirls/gayrights/protest
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for those of you with aol, you can click on these links...for others, email me
or someone else and i'm sure they can set you up with the addresses!
~jen
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to: agoad@aol.com, indirabbit@aol.com, comma7@juno.com, tkdfb12480@aol.com,
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date: fri, 22 may 1998 19:01:28 edt
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date: fri, 8 may 1998 02:57:31 edt
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dear friendly person,
with the <a href="http://www.godhatesfags.com">homophobic</a> leashing out
towards the <a href="http://www.indigogirls.com">indigo girls</a>, i feel it
is time that the gay <a href="aol://4344:2138.ouronq.22609924.538637721">
community</a> and the gay-friendly
<a href="aol://4344:662.pflag.5666319.526837985">community</a> stand up for
equal rights. this letter will inform you on places to write and direct your
comments about the school cancellations of the indigo girl concerts.
three high schools have
<a href="http://www.planetout.com/noframes/newsplanet/article.html?1998/04/30/
5">cancelled</a> indigo concerts. two of those schools were in
<a href="http://www.state.tn.us">tennessee</a> and the other in
<a href="http://www.state.sc.us/">south carolina</a>. the reason for these
cancellations was because the indigo girls are gay.
the schools have tried to cover up their homophobia by stating the ig
<a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~underdog3/lifeblood/lyrics.html">lyrics
</a> are vulgar. however, this is not the case.
<a href="mailto:horn@glaad.org">bill horn</a> of
<a href="http://www.glaad.org">glaad</a> and the
<a href="http://members.aol.com/babeybear/index.html">indigo girls</a> have
claimed this is a blatant case of homophobia. and, members of aol and other
services are upset and <a href="aol://5863:126/mb:219258">discussing</a> this
on many <a href="aol://5863:126/mb:82712">message boards</a>.
you can do something about this situation. there are many places to send
protest letters, and this document will contain many of those.
we'll start with tennessee. <a href="senator_thompson@thompson.senate.gov">
fred thompson</a> and <a href="http://www.senate.gov/~frist/mail.html">bill
frist</a> are the us senators of tn.
<a href="http://www.house.gov/tanner/email.htm">john tanner</a> and
<a href="mailto:jjduncan@mail.house.gov">john duncan</a> are two of the us
representatives. the tn governor is
<a href="mailto:dsundquist@mail.state.tn.us">don sundquist</a>. if you would
like us postal addresses or phone numbers for these officials, please e-mail
<a href="mailto:babeybear@aol.com">me</a>. see below for the address of the
commissioner of tn dept of education.
now, south carolina. <a href="mailto:sanford@hr.house.gov">marshall "mark"
sanford</a> and <a href="mailto:rep.spratt@mail.house.gov">rep. spratt</a> are
two of sc's representatives.
<a href="http://www.senate.gov/~hollings/webform.html">fritz hollings</a> and
<a href="mailto:senator@thurmond.senate.gov ">strom thurmond</a> are the us
senators. <a href="mailto:bnielsen@sde.state.sc.us">barbara neilson</a> is
the superintendent for the board of education and
<a href="mailto:arboreng@aol.com">dr. james d. martin</a> is the governor
appointed official. for general information on public education in south
carolina, call the office of public information at (803-734-8815). or,
contact <a href="mailto:governor@state.sc.us">governor david m. beasley</a>
and tell him how you feel about this situation.
while i could not find information on two of the high schools, you may write
to <a href="mailto:fhs@korrnet.org">farragut high school</a> or the farragut
hs <a href="mailto:kanishka@korrnet.org">newspaper editor</a>. this school is
located in tennessee.
please send letters to these elected officials and let them know that you do
not stand for blatant homophobia and that you believe in equal
<a href="http://www.hrc.org/">rights</a> for everybody. speak your mind,
otherwise no one knows how you feel and ignorance and hate continues.
thank you,
<a href="mailto:babeybear@aol.com">babeybear</a>
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jane walters is the commissioner of the tn dept of education.
6th floor, andrew johnson tower
710 james robertson parkway
nashville tn 37243-0375
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date: sat, 23 may 1998 12:46:21 -0400
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hi
could you please email me the directions for signing off the list.
holidays are here for me.
thanks
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date: sat, 23 may 1998 18:25:44 -0400
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wow. i just had a great ig moment. i was watching tv, and flipped it to
vh1 just as closer to fine came on. i have never seen an ig video on tv
before, let alone on pop up video. so that made me super happy and now i
have huge smile on my face. also, the yanks wolloped boston :)
rebecca
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date: sun, 24 may 1998 08:39:07 +1000
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subject: admin: how to unsubscribe
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hi folks -
>could you please email me the directions for signing off the list.
>holidays are here for me.
for all the students who are leaving for the summer, here's how
to sign off the list:
send the following command in the body of an email to
listserv@netspace.org:
signoff indigo-girls
if that doesn't work, drop me a line and i'll investigate.
-sherlyn
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it's all about faith, so don't give up on me,
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date: sat, 23 may 1998 16:51:24 pdt
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http://www.spinthebottle.com
is the pop-up website. the indigo girls/closer to fine vid is part of
the #88 one and will be airing:
5/26 4:30p
5/28 9:00p
5/29 9:00a
6/1 1:00a
6/2 4:30p
6/3 9:00a
6/4 8:30p
it didn't say, but i assume the times are eastern.
and if anyone else might be interrested:
pop-ups for other semi-related artists
#94 tori amos silent all these years
#87 sarah mclachlan sweet surrender
#67, #57, #27, #10-mellissa ethridge
#91 suzanne vega how come how long?
*hugs*
lamia
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date: sun, 24 may 1998 00:08:55 edt
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damn!
i hate being home from school and not having cable! that means no pop up
video for me!
so what did they say about the girls on pop up video? what popped up? ;-)
anyway, i am leaving for kentucky tomorrow morning and will not be checking e-
mail until thursday. damn! i am so mad i can't see vh1 here! anyway, won't
the girls be on letterman on the 4th? i hope so!
okay, gotta run!
:-) karen from wittenberg
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i am going to be unsubscribing to the list under the address i have now
because i am changing on line services. i will be re-subscribing under a new
address. so anyone who is e-mailing me privately please take note of this.
my new address will be moongayzing@ameritech.net
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i really need to talk to you about your boots, chickadee! get in touch with
me asap!
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is this true that ig are playing the fleadh then? that's the one in
london, right?
how do i get tickets?
does anyone know if they're playing anywhere in the uk soonish? edinburgh?
some hope :(
sorry if i'm asking stuff that has already discussed, i only subscribed a
couple weeks ago and i *always* seem to miss the indigo news till it's
over...
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hey y'all--
last night ru paul was having a tribute to lesbians, and one of the things
she did was create "products" that would be good lesbian gifts...one of them
was "the indigo girls hockey video game, or "chicks with sticks"
anyway,
lmd
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ok, i was browsing around looking for indigo girls wavs for a friend in
sweden..and i came across this place:
http://www.pluggage.com/music/reviews/indigo/
and it said that the sots cd included:
the dwarf song
heliotrope
am i really out of it? my cd doesn't have these on it..and i don't think
i've heard them sing 'em in concert! have i lost it?? help!! :)
lamia
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hey folks -
lamia said:
>ok, i was browsing around looking for indigo girls wavs for a friend in
>sweden..and i came across this place:
>http://www.pluggage.com/music/reviews/indigo/
>and it said that the sots cd included:
>the dwarf song
>heliotrope
heh... according to cdnow, those two songs are the last two
songs (tracks 13 and 14) on the geraldine fibbers' album
"butch".
hmm... :)
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hi listees. my email has been down for about 2 weeks. someone was talking about a book called "stone butch blues" i believe. i am really needing to read something like that about now. would whoever posted this info. please email me privately with info. on how to get the book. thanx!
toye
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>subject: closer to fine on pop-up!
>
>http://www.spinthebottle.com
>is the pop-up website. the indigo girls/closer to fine vid is part of
>the #88 one and will be airing:
>
>5/26 4:30p
>5/28 9:00p
>5/29 9:00a
>6/1 1:00a
>6/2 4:30p
>6/3 9:00a
>6/4 8:30p
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does anyone know if these dates/times correspond with the pop ups on much
music in canada? anyone know when it would be on?
thanks
lori
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hey anyone in the dc area if you haven't checked out the american music
festival at the kennedy center this wknd...shame on you. one last chaance
tomorrow...more good music than one set of ears can handle. yesterday..i
managed to catch buckwheat zydeco, blind boys from alabama, medeski,
martin and wood, and chuck berry. woohoo... and missed stuff going on on
the other 7 stages. the american women in jazz is there also and i finally
saw the terri lynn carrington quartet. i'm not really into bebop..but can
this girl drum...i think i'll burn mine!
tomorrow gonna catch robert cray, los lobos and arlo guthrie and what ever
else i can put in in 6 hrs. good food too..crawfish etoufee & what all. got
my tix for lilith fair..md, and nj...
here's to good music of any kind...
m
i said hark, what light through yonder window breaks.
it's the babe with the bod that just can't wait.
i say who's in the garden beatin' round the bush?
that's romeo checkin' out her tush.
he's outta control, he's running up the ladder.
the girl is hot, he just got to have her.
will romeo get juliet in bed?
well i hope he gets somethin' before they're both dead!
"the shakespeare rap" (open season)
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ya'll if you haven't seen this yet you definately should!!
i was browsing around the lilith fair site, and i came across pictures,
video clips and stuff from the coral sky lilith in january!!
http://www.lilithfair.com/main.html
go to scrapbook, then coral sky, then indigo girls.
the video clips are priceless!
shed your skin has got (sarah?) and missy elliot bouncing around the
stage while the girls play..it's too great!!!
lamia
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when we try to play the ig videos on the lilith site the sound will not
play. can anybody help. i have checked "play sounds and i made sure the
volume control was at it's max.
can anyone help.
kim & rhea
do we have to live inside its walls to identify the cage
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i have to highly recommend stone butch blues as well. that book gave me a lot
of new insights. however, you have to be prepared for a really depressing
book! it's by leslie feinberg, she's also written, transgendered warriors,
which too is very informative and an important read.
peace,
diana
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date: mon, 25 may 1998 09:38:42 -0700
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glenda, i need to ask you about the tape you sent for the portland boot.
please respond soon. thanks.
-sam (not in the mood to think of a cute title this morning)
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date: mon, 25 may 1998 12:52:54 -0400
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you can watch it as well as many other videos by various artist (soryr no
girls) at http://www.streamland.com/site/issues/current/welcome.html
register its freee
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date: mon, 25 may 1998 13:05:38 -0400
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on that stie i sent out they have a few more ani videos and some dar
ani
shy
in or out
joyfall girl
dar
what do you hear in these sounds
liz phair
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date: mon, 25 may 1998 12:01:32 -0700
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hey y'all
would someone please remind me of the addy for the web page that has all
of amy's soc's...i lost it...thanks,java.
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hey y'all... don't know if you can open this attachment (i can't) but i
thought i'd send it and maybe if you can read it you'll have a wee laugh
like i did. this guy on aol, who lives in my hometown for chrissakes,
said, in his member profile "gays suck". so i of course had to write to
him and be like, oh, really?, well, i live in your hometown, we're
*everywhere*," and he got pissed and wrote that they should send all of
"you fucking fags to an island." hoo boy, the brilliant minds in my
town! god love surburban ohio!
jill
hey, and i've *missed* you guys!!!!
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in a message dated 98-05-25 00:02:31 edt, you write:
<< date: sun, 24 may 1998 13:43:19 pdt
from: adia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
subject: sots question!
ok, i was browsing around looking for indigo girls wavs for a friend in
sweden..and i came across this place:
http://www.pluggage.com/music/reviews/indigo/
and it said that the sots cd included:
the dwarf song
heliotrope
am i really out of it? my cd doesn't have these on it..and i don't think
i've heard them sing 'em in concert! have i lost it?? help!! :)
lamia >>
lamia~ nope. not out of it. mine doesnt have them either... tell yah the
truth, i've never even heard of those songs before!!!
~alyssa
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date: mon, 25 may 1998 19:48:42 -0400
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hey. did anyone catch emily on this show last night/this morning at
midnight? either way, if anyone knows when it'll be re-airing, will you
please let me know? the tv guide doesn't have it listed, and i seemed to
have missed seeing her on there last night. thnaks so much.
chris :)
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and it's my thirst that brought me to the water
when i give it all up then she carries me on
and it's alright"
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date: mon, 25 may 1998 22:04:27 -0400
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subject: a new song to discuss?
i was thinking that maybe a song discussion is called for since i'm not
really sure if we are talking about much of anything, so in the interest
of that i was wondering if anybody had any thoughts on walk away? i've
always thought that it was pretty straight forward, but the imagery that
it evokes makes it an interesting song for me. i think that the words
used are very striking. sooooo, anybody else out there have any
thoughts?? :)
carolyn
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be what i must be and face tomorrow. so i'll continue to continue to
pretend my life will never end, and flo
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date: mon, 25 may 1998 22:20:16 -0400
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25, 98 03:41:19 pm
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jill -
trust me - living in a homophobic town sucks - even if you aren't gay! i
hate my hometown - never ever thought i'd be back here in a million years -
but - you know what - even though my town is the "most homophobic town in
america" (newsweek, 1994) there are 2 gay bars, several safe, progressive
places to be (*which* does matter, because as a minority - i would rather be
in a diverse room - people are way more accepting!) but it does suck at
times - there isn't too many bars i feel a strong need to hang out in (it's
been six years since i lived here though and most people i see from high
school i used to associate with are pretty cool - the bar scene has been the
bottom of my priorities actually...
but i live a stone's throw from bates college - so lewiston isn't so bad -
it is a matter of seeking the pockets and exploring them- and knowing when
to buy a bus ticket to go to boston so one does not lose their sanity!
aren't people supposed to hate where they grew up anyway?
(am and em, the *simple* goddesses they are, excluded...)
(let's *not* start the goddess thing again - i vrefer to most of my beloved
friends as goddesses. it's not like i sit arounnd and think about amy and
emily all the time..i'm much more concerned with fixing my soundcard,
figuring out where i put my new tori cd and finding a job - not in that
order...)
peace-
mike r.
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well since my mail server has been down for days and they are not into
there office until tuesday morning i have had a lot of time to think and
this song has got me thinking. it is one of my favorites of the girls. it
talks about old relationships and how your in love with someone who isn't
there. well i never saw the jest of it until recently when my cat passed
on. her presence is still here with me so i am no longer grieving. we have
gone to the show and she sleeps on my head at night. i know this is
strange, but that is how why i thought about the song and what meaning it
has. i never believed in ghost no matter what it was until now. call me
strange, but that is my indigo girl moment today. missy
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if anyone knows of a lilith site that tells what time all the artists
are performing at, can you please e-mail me. i have tried several
lilith sites that i thought would have it, but they didn't. thanks
--peace, trish
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date: mon, 25 may 1998 23:25:50 pdt
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bewildered, beautiful (have you seen her homepage?!) lady lamia puzzled
over
> http://www.pluggage.com/music/reviews/indigo/
which said that sots included:
> the dwarf song
and something called
> heliotrope
huh? wha--? those nutty swedes.
for our enlightenment:
heliotrope: n. 1. any of a group of herbs or shrubs of the borage
family, having clusters of small, fragrant, lilac to dark-blue flowers;
turnsole. 2. the common valerian. 3. any plant whose flowers turn to
follow the sun (formerly applied to the sunflower, marigold, etc.). 4.
a pinkish purple. 5. a bloodstone. 6. (surveying.) an instrument for
reflecting the sun's rays to a distant point.
--- adj. pinkish-purple.
(source: the world book encyclopedia dictionary, c. 1964)
carol and i have this friend tim, who likes to utilize polysyllabic
locutions (he uses big words) and i do recall 'heliotrope' being one of
his favored ones. heh.
jill, with tangential igc as ever.
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date: mon, 25 may 1998 23:47:25 pdt
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good god, is that wysteria song creepy.
especially when you're driving down a deserted highway in the middle of
cow town at 1:30 am and you're the only one anywhere and you keep
glancing nervously at the empty seat next to you in the dark car and
simultaneously recalling all those unsolved mysteries where them
hitchhiker ghosts appear on the side of the road or, god forbid, right
in the car next to you, just like that, boom, and you're freaking.
you're freaking, you're an adult for chrissakes, you're a grown woman so
you feel silly about having all these highly irrational fears but hey
it's late so maybe it's permissible at this time of night and you've
always had highly irrational fears (et?! come on already! you were
six! get over it!) so you try to think of other things, minor
distractions, yeah, those are good at a time like this, but all you've
got to distract/ comfort you is your boot of early recordings vol. 2 and
what comes on the speakers? wysteria, for the love of pete wells, with
amy and em all moaning about "wysteeeeeria, are your lips still lily
white?..."
yike!
jill, trying to spark *something*, at barbara corrice's request ;) and
likely irking someone at a scottish college somewhere. yep yep.
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date: tue, 26 may 1998 18:21:35 +1000
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hey folks,
i just found this article on the web - it's at
http://www2.nando.net/links/nandonext/entertainment/indigogirls.html.
it's a little bit old but worthwhile - it was written before all the
stuff happened with the high school cancellations...
-sherlyn
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duo puts friendship in music: indigo girls are well-versed
by kelly woo, nandonext staff
photo courtesy epic records
imagine working with the same person -- your musical partner, someone
whose name will be forever connected to yours -- for almost 20 years.
emily saliers, one-half of the indigo girls, can imagine because she
has been working with her partner, amy ray, since their high school
days in decatur, ga.
but in a phone interview over the weekend from memphis, saliers said
she and ray are like sisters. "we're like family," she explained.
"we've had a working relationship for 18 years. i love her, and she's
a great person. we like to do different things, but we have a deep
bond."
it is that deep bond that has won over listeners and converted them
into fans. their unique, honest harmony features ray's gritty, raw
alto and saliers' sweet, angelic soprano. even their different styles
of songwriting -- ray tends to write edgier rock-folk tunes while
saliers is best known for her soaring ballads -- have meshed to
produce six full-length albums, the latest of which, "shaming of the
sun" (epic, 1997), made its debut in billboard's top 10.
with the popularity of last year's lilith fair tour, the indigo girls
have enjoyed the spotlight of commercial success. but while the
spotlight may be new, ray and saliers, friends since high school and
a team since their days at emory university, are not. after emerging
on the atlanta club scene, the two signed with epic records in 1988
and, a year later, released a self-titled album. they got a big break
when invited to open for fellow georgians r.e.m.
ray and saliers have been outspoken about their political and
environmental causes in their songs and on the record.
"i think no matter what we're doing, amy and i would be activists,"
saliers said. "we believe there's a lot of work to be done in the
world. we feel so passionately about injustice and environmental
issues ... a lot of times they end up in our songs as well.
"basically, it's just what we think about a lot. try to help educate
other people with information that we've gathered along the way. we
can't help but speak our minds ... amy and i keep doing what we do and
let the chips fall. we're not afraid to stand up for what we believe."
the group sponsored a songwriting contest for junior and senior high
schoolers last year and have planned a high school tour for the fall.
for young songwriters, saliers advised, "first of all, [don't] have a
goal of breaking into the industry. if you play music, it's important
to play it for the love of it. you should get together with your
friends and jam.
"you should play as much as possible play for fun. keep on
playing all the time and knock on some doors."
even after so many years, saliers admitted she comes down with
writer's block.
"happens every time we get together to write songs and put out a
record," she said. "amy's writing up a storm. she's got a bunch of
great new songs. i just need to focus and sit down and gather my
thoughts."
those thoughts stem mostly from experiences on the road, saliers
said.
"we travel so much, and we meet so many people," she said. "things
that are going on in the world, and anytime you read a good book or
hear a good cd. there always seems to be stuff to think about.
writing songs is a way for amy and i to emote. i guess that's why we
keep doing it after all these years."
saliers cited joni mitchell as the greatest influence on her
songwriting career.
"i think she's a great musician, and her records are so different
from the ones before," saliers reflected. "i've looked to her as an
inspiration. she uses great, specific images, and she's very
lyrical."
the collaboration between the two partners continues to be the power
behind the words and voices. their relationship is unlikely to
dissolve. ray and saliers often stay apart while not touring.
"there's enough separation where it doesn't get to be a pain,"
saliers said. "we've worked together for so long. it's really kind of
a mystery.
"there are some things that i'd like to do on my own. but [i can't
imagine] my life not including indigo girls. we still enjoy it so
much, and i feel that we're still evolving and growing."
when asked which of ray's songs she enjoyed the most, saliers
replied, "right now, live, i like playing 'chicken man' [from 'rites
of passage,' epic, 1992]. but on the new record, i like 'scooter
boys.' it's hard to pick favorites."
her own favorite song? "probably 'ghost,' " she answered.
saliers said she and ray probably will tour -- both with lilith fair
again and on their own -- until september, write new songs in the
fall and begin work on a new record in january 1999.
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date: tue, 26 may 1998 19:39:52 +1000
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hey folks,
i've been surfing...
* there are a whole bunch of good quality photos that look
like they were all taken at the same concert here:
http://www.injersey.com/entertainment/indigogirls/index.html
* there's also a cool picture here:
http://musiccentral.msn.com/weeklyfeatures/article/753/6
more later... :)
sherlyn
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date: tue, 26 may 1998 13:53:25 +0800
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....is it just me, or does the mail seem rather light lately? maybe i'm
just spoiled on thirty mails every 12 hours, but it seems like everyone
just up and left or something........sherlyn?
sincerely,
ian c.
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hey and happy post holiday weekend tuesday. this is the final post i will
make to the list for the chicago aids ride. the deadline for contributions
is just over 2 weeks away. there is still time to get your donations in.
checks can be made payable to chicago aids ride 3 and sent to me at the
address below. no minimums, no maximums. all donations will be greatly
appreciated. this is a good cause for which i have donated a lot of my own
time, energy and money towards. help if you feel so inspired. thanks
again to all those on the list who have already helped out. i could not
have done this without all the help from the list. have a great week and
feel free to email privately with any questions. thanks
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date: tue, 26 may 1998 08:43:00 -0600
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happy tuesday, everyone!! here are the birthdays for this week!
gemini
(may 21-june 21)
keep your mind strictly on business as love affairs is not in the
stars for today. you will be closely watched today as you are being
thought of for a higher position. take the family out tonight, and make
it a minor celebration to celebrate your good fortune.
may 25 ('75)
wlee@indy1.calarts.edu (wendell lee)
may 25
mmgst11+@pitt.edu (melissa)
-i am a problem child/ i've been wild all my days/ all my anger and my
rage/ my senses said it would lead me astray/ i said go, go, go -a.r.
may 31 ('71)
debigogirl@aol.com (debbie o'donoghue)
may 31
wishmonstr@aol.com (elizabeth)
if you would like to be added to the list, please email me with your
name, birthday, and maybe a quote, and i'll be happy to add you!!
much love to all,
jo anne
"i am not your senorita, i am not from your tribe"
t.a.
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date: tue, 26 may 1998 11:55:51 edt
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i just hafta vent...sorry about the nigc....
last night i was in a g&l chat room on aol for about an hour and in the course
of that hour i got over 20 emails about porn sites and sexy pictures of 18 yr
olds and whatnot, not to mention about ten im invitations to these sites and
about 4 ims asking me to cyber!!
why do people think that because i am in a g&l room i like to look at porn and
that i want to cyber with them??? i have another screen name that i use and
go to star trek rooms and what not (yes i'm a trekkie!) and this has never
happened to me there! i wonder if it happens in regular chat rooms! i am
just so angry.. i should be able to go where i want and not get harrassed by
this stuff! augh
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date: tue, 26 may 1998 11:14:19 pdt
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ok i was in the shower this morning, and i started singing
"raise your hands, raise your hands, raise your hands up hight. don't
walk *something not sure*, don't stand aside, this time.."
or something along those lines..and i was like, what song is that? so i
asked lel, and she was like, "that's not an indigo girls song!" and i
said, "yes it is! isn't it?" and she said, "nope!"
but i dunno...can ya'll help me out?
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date: tue, 26 may 1998 14:16:42 -0400
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hey,
i'm up in toronto here's where to go: staying with my parents for a couple
of weeks, and i just caught up on a week's worth of e-mail (my grandparents
were staying with me, which meant they spent the week in my bedroom never
leaving, and i spent the weekend on the couch). in any case, i have several
questions, mostly for toronto area people:
1)lori asked if pop up video was showing the ctf video on the same dates as
vh1- did she get an answer? also, lamia, could you e-mail me the dates and
web address that i accidentally deleted?
2)denise (or anyone else in the area)do you want to play guitar again? i
can't access my e-mail address book.
3)danielle howle and the tantrums are going to be here for nxne - i think
i'm buying the three day pass just to seem them...anyone know of any other
good bands that are going to be playing that weekend?
thanks,
sarah
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*giggle* i actually got a lot of different answers to this! but i'm
pretty sure it is problem child cuz i was listening to it the other
day..*s* great song!!
thanks ya'll!!! :)
*hugs*
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who sings problem child?
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"let me crash and let me burn, let me hope and let me learn and i might go
farther, farther. i may crash and i may burn, a spectacle that they may
spurn or i might go farther than they know."
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date: tue, 26 may 1998 14:03:13 -0700
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hey everybody!
okay yall i stopped the list for the long weekend so bear with me if
this has been mentioned before.
they popped an indigo video!!! they popped an indigo video!!! they
popped an indigo video!!!
i only saw the last half of it though, i was watching baseball tonight
and decided to change channels and for some reason turned to vh1 and i
couldn't believe my ears, why it was a darn right familiar sounding
song! once i got over the shock of actually seeing an ig video on tv,
i started reading bubbles. um, one pointed out that the dude on the
whistle thing was the guy from hothouse flowers, and the next bubble
said that zamfir guy has sold more records worldwide than ig and
hothouse flowers combined (as frightening as that may sound). there
was a bubble that said they'd never been together, mentioned jcs, uh,
pointed out russell carter in the pied piper scene thing at the end,
oh yeah, and "there are three anne surs listed in phonebooks
nationwide" (something like that). anywya, if ya want to check it out
yourselves, i stopped by the popupvidoe site and grabbed some
showtimes. all times are eastern and pacific (and hawaii time but
that's only relevant for me).
5/26--4:30 pm 6/2--4:30 pm
5/28--9:00 pm 6/3--9:00 am
5/29--9:00 am 6/4--8:30 pm
6/1--1:00 am
remember, that's when they claim the show will be on. the girls'
video is the fourth one.
lori ann (still tired after being waken up early in the morning on
saturday and monday by the 21 gun salute they had up at punchbowl)
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date: tue, 26 may 1998 15:09:34 -0700
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hey kids. i just got done bugging vh1 about the lack of exposure they
give to ig. i know they've just included ctf on "pop-up videos," but it
would be nice to see at least one ig video during their normal
rotation. i haven't ever seen a video of theirs on vh1, actually.
lame. so i just wrote them a nice, friendly letter, telling them how
much i like their station, how much i love some of their programs (like
"behind the music") and that they should just play ig as much as they
play, for instance, sarah or jewel or shawn, dammit!
so here's their e-mail address: request@vh1.com
go ahead and send 'em a nice, friendly ig request of your own. heck, if
everyone does it, maybe we'll actually see the video for "shame on you"
sometime soon!
anyway, happy tuesday!
kate :o)
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date: tue, 26 may 1998 18:28:36 -0400
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i just watched and taped ig - "closer to fine" on vh1's "pop-up video"
-- here's a blow-by-blow / pop-by-pop description (remarkably free of my
own personal editorial comment, btw). everything in brackets [] is my
description to explain the narrative.
teaser [voice over] [before video preceding ig's]: coming up... can
anyone really tell the indigo girls apart?"
opener:
indigo girls
"closer to fine"
epic 1989
director: tamra davis
pop up #1) this video was shot in and around the indigo girls' hometown
of atlanta, ga
2) amy and emily met in elementary school -- they first sang together in
choir
3) their first gig was as students at emory university under the billing
"saliers & ray"
4) [with arrows pointing to the correct one]
emily saliers
amy ray
5) amy searched the dictionary for a better band name -- "'indigo' just
stuck out"
6) indigo (n.): deep blue
7) they now complain they're always having to remind people who is who
8) amy ray [arrow]
emily saliers [arrow]
9) amy and emily have never written a song together [factually incorrect
-mel] -- this one is emily's
10) she wrote it while isolated in a cabin in rural vermont
11) the song's message: every experience should bring us "closer to
fine"
12) it's 878 miles from atlanta to the closest fine -- fine, n.y.
13) the record company asked the director of this video to try to
"feminize" the girls
14) the director met the girls -- and didn't think feminizing them would
"work"
15) it worked for lassie -- the bitch was really a boy [picture of
lassie, the dog]
16) it worked for dustin hoffman [picture of tootsie]
17) emily described this verse as being a "poke at academia" [beginning
of dr of philosophy verse]
18) she's still bitter at losing a 7th grade election for student senate
19) amy ran for high school class president -- and won
20) rosie o'donnell class president 1980 [picture of rosie]
21) charles grodin class president 1953 [picture]
22) lance ito class president 1968 [picture] [note: oj simpson trial
judge]
23) don knotts class president 1942 [picture]
24) amy and emily moved beyond school politics to active support of
various causes
[#25 - 32 individually pop up all over a single screen]
25) honor the earth campaign
26) voters for choice
27) hand gun control
28) earthday
29) amnesty international
30) peta
31) gay and lesbian rights
32) greenpeace
33) moe howard was closer to larry fine than his brother curly
34) amy ray [arrow]
emily saliers [arrow]
35) liam o'maonlai from the irish folk band hothouse flowers [playing
the whistle before bar verse]
36) pan flutist zamfir has sold more records than hothouse flowers and
indigo girls combined
37) amy and emily both openly acknowledge their homosexuality
38) despite rumors to the contrary, they have never been romantically
involved
39) they did become involved in 1994
40) in a production of "jesus christ superstar"
41) mary magdalene [arrow pointing to emily]
42) jesus [arrow pointing to amy]
43) amy and emily asked friends and family to join them on a stroll
through atlanta
44) family [arrow pointing to amy's brother]
45) friend [arrow pointing to chris mcguire]
46) friend [arrow pointing to (?) blond male in black jacket]
47) friend [arrow pointing to caroline aiken]
48) their manager [arrow pointing to russell carter]
49) the phone directory lists 3 "anne surs" in the us
50) the fine for illegal public gathering in atlanta: $1000
51) the girls have said they like to challenge themselves musically to
get "closer to fine"
52) [picture of "stooge" larry fine follows emily out of camera frame]
close: the girls say their partnership remains closer to fine because
they never get too close. they work on solo projects and maintain
separate circles of friends. they do share one thing -- the fear that
the other one is going to want it to end.
(see... remarkably free of editorial comment... <ahem>... )
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date: tue, 26 may 1998 18:45:41 edt
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a multiple purpose email =)
for the ig portion of this email:
i have two lilith fair tickets for sale for the following date:
monday, july 6th, at pine knob in detroit (this is the show w/indigo girls)
seats are row y, seat 2 and row x, seat 2 (right in front of each other)
ticket prices are $92.30 for both of them (which is the original price paid,
including all the nasty extra tm charges)
please email if interested!
and for the nigc portion of this email:
for all you previous lift fans....a friend thought of a great name for who
still remains of the former band.......(ie. molly and
simone).....liftovers!!!!!!
i thought that was brilliant.
still sad and still not supportive of the firing of julie and dave........or
anything else that the liftovers do for that matter.
lisa
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date: tue, 26 may 1998 21:58:33 -0400
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actually, when "shame on you" was first released, the video *did* air on
vh1. of course, it wasn't played as much as i (or others on this list,
for that matter) would have liked :(
tami
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if anyone posted about the trades to me. re send your message i never got
it> missy
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 00:25:17 -0400
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the mention of how they chose "indigo" reminded me of a question that a
friend of mine asked the other day...he was curious if the fact that they
were called indigo girls and the fact that indigo is the one color of the
rainbow left out of the "gay rainbow" (is there a pc term for this?) are
at all related...
i had never noticed that before. i know that they used to always say that
tehy chose the name just cuz it sounded neat, but those old interviews
were also before they were out, so if this were the catual reaosn they may
not have mentioned it.
or is he way off base?
any comments?
darren
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date: tue, 26 may 1998 21:35:31 pdt
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i have to say, around that time i was taping vh1's early morning
crossroads show for lilith clips, and i got shame on you on tape 3
different occasions...
lamia
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 00:42:56 edt
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hey...i've actually seen soy twice, but that was last summer.
anyway...request them to get ig on storytellers...wouldn't they just be
perfect!!!!
heck yeah!!!!
carol
ps-happy ig day for me...i was finally buying my ani difranco lpc's cuz
i got a job...and as i was at the store, i heard water is wide over the
speakers. i gasped & drooled (its soo perty...i *have* to that lf
cd....). then i saw c2f on vh-1...oh, the lovely day...gotta tape it
though....)
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i read somewhere that indigo was in the first design of the gay rainbow,
but was removed so it could fit in a street for a parade.....
in that same article it also said what the color indigo stood for (as in
feelings). i wish i could remember......
theres a bunch of stuff in the definition that could be used to describe
them.....
maybe it was subliminial.
carol
he was curious if the fact that they
>were called indigo girls and the fact that indigo is the one color of
the
>rainbow left out of the "gay rainbow" (is there a pc term for this?)
are
>at all related...
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i actualy wrote a paper on them my sophomore year in high school. i red in an
interview they's had that the name indigo girls came from a flip through the
dictionary. indigo is an earth tome, enviroentlay pc i guess you could call
it. it was something earthy and catchy. and actualy wasn't related to their
sexuality.
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hey y'all,
i saw the shame on you film clip for the first time a few months ago.
every time i watch it, one thing amazes me. what the heck is that weird
dancing those couples' are doing? where they are, like, kicking up the
floor like chickens and look like they have lost all voluntary control of
body joints? i haven't had any kind of exposure to this sort of dancing
before( i'm thanking my lucky stars here) it isn't, heaven forbid, line
dancing is it? please someone tell me, it isn't?
anne
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hey folks,
i found this on the web, at
http://www.penguineggs.ab.ca/penguineggs/reviews.html.
has anybody actually *got* this compilation? i've
been meaning to order it but it's pretty expensive and
i've got a lot of other things on my want list right
now. hmm...
:)
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where have all the flowers gone: the songs of pete seeger
various
appleseed recordings
march 3, 1940, new york city. the forrest theater, broadway and 49th:
a gob-smacked, 20-year-old pete seeger hears woody guthrie for the
first time. later at the post-concert party, alan lomax introduces
seeger to guthrie. "go back to that night when pete first met woody
guthrie, you can date the renaissance of american folk song," lomax
would later assert. and who am i to argue with alan lomax.
while huntington's chorea crippled guthrie, seeger, hounded by the
red-bashing, myopic, congressional house of un-american activities
committee, would carry the torch of political folk song through the
fifties and play a pivotal role in the urban folk revival that
emerged in the early sixties.
his songs have long since been integrated into the social fabric of
western culture. the likes of we shall overcome, where have all the
flowers gone and if i had a hammer can be heard on picket lines, in
soccer stadiums and in camp grounds from london to los angeles.
they've also had a profound influence on several generations of
musicians as distinguished as bob dylan and bruce springsteen.
while dylan's conspicuous by his absence on where have all the
flowers gone: the songs of pete seeger, springsteen's joined by a
remarkably diverse collection of performers the likes of bonnie
raitt, jackson browne, indigo girls, billy bragg, ani difranco,
eliza carthy, sweet honey in the rock, nanci griffith and
cordellia's dad.
two-and-a-half hours long and spread over two discs, this immense
undertaking by executive producer jim musselman of appleseed records
has drawn phenomenal performances from difranco (my name is lisa
kalvelage), cordellia's dad (how can i keep from singing) , john
gorka (the water is wide), indigo girls (letter to eve) and billy
bragg and eliza carthy (my father's mansions).
while these songs retain a certain natural freshness due to their
relative obscurity, the hits, however, have been murdered by every
fledgling folk singer in the known universe. have you ever met
anyone who couldn't hum a bar of i had a hammer? of course not.
familiarity may feed cynicism, but bruce springsteen (we shall
overcome), bruce cockburn, (turn, turn, turn) and tommy sands,
dolores kean and vedran smailovic (where have all the flowers gone)
carry the day on pure passion and impressive integrity. nanci
griffith and friends (if i had a hammer) make it on enthusiasm.
while bonnie raitt and jackson browne (kisses sweeter than wine)
rely on their formidable instincts that transforms a rather mundane
tune into a delightful slice of reggae.
f course, there are quibbles too. there always are. and minor as
they may be, judy collins (oh had i golden thread) and peter, paul
and mary (all mixed up) deserve a blast for their insipid,
time-worn contributions. and greg brown over plays his hand on
sailing down my golden river. but these are the only real hiccups
on a fitting tribute to one of the most important spokes on the
great revolving wheel we call folk music.
- rod campbell
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if anyone would like a copy of the 1200 curfews liner you can
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this is in today's (5/27/98) new york times:
i can only hope that i am reading this wrong. crude moments? subversive
lyrics? they *are* joking, right?????
lisa
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the pop life: indigo girl power is squelched
the pop life / by neil strauss
the most controversial music group in the country this month was not a
gangsta rap or shock rock band, but the indigo girls, the politically and
ecologically minded, grammy-winning female guitar duo. a spokeswoman for the
band's label, epic, said no one was more surprised than the indigo girls
themselves when three of five performances on a tour of high schools this
spring were canceled by school administrators.
officials at the high school in irmo, s.c., were so serious about the
cancellation that when students protested their decision, five of them were
suspended for eight days. it didn't stop the students from protesting,
however: they have filed a lawsuit seeking damages from the school
superintendent and principal. schools in germantown and knoxville, tenn., also
backed out of scheduled concerts by the band.
the reason, school administrators say, is the band's offensive lyrics and
complaints from parents. though amy ray of the indigo girls called the
principals of these schools and promised not to play any songs with profanity,
the administrators refused to back down. students as well as the epic label
say the concerts were canceled because the band members are openly gay, but
principals, among them edwin hedgepath of knoxville, maintain that there was
no way to make sure the band wouldn't use profanity in front of students. he
cited a previous indigo girls performance at a high school in which a song
with a curse word was used.
scouring albums by the indigo girls for dirty lyrics, however, is like
watching "barney" for signs of intelligence: they are few and far between.
that isn't to say, however, that the indigo girls don't have their crude
moments. here are four of their more subversive lyrics, so you can decide for
yourself if this is the sort of thing young people should be exposed to:
they advocate cutting classes -- "i remember the time when i came so close
with you/sent me skipping my class and running from school/and i bought you
that ring cause i was never cool" (from "least complicated").
they worship pagan religions -- "you had to bring up reincarnation over a
couple of beers the other night?/now i'm serving time for mistakes made by
another in another lifetime/how long till my soul gets it right?" (from
"galileo").
they employ unorthodox methods of teaching history -- "europe shed the blood
of indians/here i sit in the land of plenty/crying about my own virginity"
(from "scooter boys").
they encourage acceptance of alternative life styles -- "hate me cause i'm
different, hate me cause i'm gay/truth of the matter come around one day"
(from "it's alright").
wednesday, may 27, 1998
copyright 1998 the new york times
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ohmygod is all i have to say to this bull about the indigo girls concerts
being cancelled. what's up with that? oh, they're soooo controversial.
well, then, i guess the school will be booking marilyn manson next because
he's not as crude or anything with his lyrics now is he...oh yeah, and he
isn't openly gay (not that i'm implying that he is gay at all). the
indigo girls are good role models for kids today and schools need to
realize that and stop getting off on denying students the right to see and
hear someone like them.
-jen
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 07:44:01 -0700
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ok folks....
has anyone heard of/does anyone read julia penelope?
i'm reading a book of hers now, call me lesbian, that
my gf sent me and she has an awsome (in my opinion)
but semi-offensive-depending-on-your-viewpoint (like
my friend tracy was sorta offended because julia can
get pretty anti-bisexuality, which she ids as) essay
on wimmin and lesbian-only spaces.
anyways, she talks about michwomyn'smusicfest a
little, which, as we all know ig will be at this year.
so anyways, it's a semi-short article. if anyone's
intrested in it i'll (maybe/prolly) type it up. if i
get enough responses i'll post it to the list.
flame me now,
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oh my god! i had to laugh at this message. :) about the people dancing
like chickens in the soy video! ha! shan and i have this joke running
about that very thing...we'll just break into that number
occasionally...out in public...inside...wherever. we just let it all
hang out and the legs start flyin'. heh heh... it's a crowd pleaser,
let me tell you...the people standing around would sure be hurting if
those legs happened to break loose. :) it's hilarious -- the cowboy hats
make it even more great. ;) how 'bout when they're swinging those
chicks between their legs?! man...it's a frenzy of line dancing
madness, but i respect it cuz it's an indigo girls video. :)
speaking of line dancing...a while ago i turned on tnn and these fogies
were moving and shaking to "hammer and a nail." my mom pointed that one
out. :) i heard her laughing downstairs and when i ventured down to
check out the commotion she was pointing at the t.v. sho nuff, there
were those glorious voices -- didn't quite match the too small leather
skirts and chaps. :) heh heh...the things we'll watch just to hear a
little i.g.
my tangent for today. :)
have a good one...i'm off to roast in the sun.
bethany :)
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 01:03:46 +0900
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hi y'all!
my friends and i were messing around with babelfish on altavista. it's a
site where you can translate things into other languages. so we translated
ctf to french, then back again to english to see what we would get. thought
i'd shrare the results with y'all.
*********************************************************************
more close to the fine
i to test for saying to you something to the subject my life to perhaps
give perspicacity between black and white and better thing to have never to
make to you for helping to take my less serious life only life after all
ouais
good darkness to have a hunger which insatiable and lightness to have a
call which hard to intend i to wrap my fear like a cover i to around
navigate my boat safety until i to go down i to crawl on your shore
i v doctor, i v mountain i to look at child, i to drink fountain there more
than one to answer these pointing question in one twisted line and less i
to seek my source for some final (less i to seek my source) narrow i fine
narrow i fine
and i be go see the doctor of philosophy with a poster of rasputin and a
beard to the bottom with its knee that it himself be never marry or see a
film of b-category it have evaluate my execution, it have say that it can
see by me i have pass four year the prostrate with spirit more high have
obtain my paper and i be free
i v doctor, i v mountain i to look at child, i to drink fountain there more
than one answer these question of directing in one twisted line less i to
seek my source for some final (less i to seek my source) narrow i amend
narrow i amend
i stopped by the bar at 3 o'clock in the morning to seek solace in a bottle
or possible a friend and i to awake with a headache like my head against
panel twice such a cloudy such as i harm front and i v in seeking
clearness.
i v doctor, i v mountain i to look at child, i to drink fountain ouais v
doctor, v mountain to look at child, drink fountain ouais v bible, v
through training session lira upwards on rebirth and to hold upwards for
monitoring there more than one to answer these pointing question in one
twisted line less i to seek my source for some final (less i to seek my
source) narrow i fine narrow i fine narrow i fine
words and of music music 1988 of godhap of copyright of saliers emily (bmi)
************************************************************************
peace,
susan
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 11:07:56 -0500
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on wed, 27 may 1998, memememi wrote:
> this is in today's (5/27/98) new york times:
>
> i can only hope that i am reading this wrong. crude moments? subversive
> lyrics? they *are* joking, right?????
>
> lisa
i think they are fairly obviously being sarcastic here. they are laughing
at the schools for cancelling people for the subversive-ness of
acceptance. they are ripping apart the schools for being idiots.
personally, i think it's great. it's kind of like in the movie scream they
are picking on horror movies, you see? it's sort of an ironic, sarcastic,
parody-driven news article, and it's funny...imho
>
> ***********************************************************************
> the pop life: indigo girl power is squelched
>
> the pop life / by neil strauss
> >
><snip!>
>
> they advocate cutting classes -- "i remember the time when i came so close
> with you/sent me skipping my class and running from school/and i bought you
> that ring cause i was never cool" (from "least complicated").
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>(here they're laughing that one of the worst things they could find was
skipping class when most people talk about sex and drugs and such...)
> they worship pagan religions -- "you had to bring up reincarnation over a
> couple of beers the other night?/now i'm serving time for mistakes made by
> another in another lifetime/how long till my soul gets it right?" (from
> "galileo").
(again, sort of making fun of the worst possible lyrics they could find,
which are obvously just playful lyrics and a lot better than lyrics in
most music that teens listen to)
>
> they employ unorthodox methods of teaching history -- "europe shed the blood
> of indians/here i sit in the land of plenty/crying about my own virginity"
> (from "scooter boys").
>
(see, here they're picking on revisionist history and the fact that
schools teach kids about the wonderful europeans and the horrible indians
or downplay the indians' pain...)
> they encourage acceptance of alternative life styles -- "hate me cause i'm
> different, hate me cause i'm gay/truth of the matter come around one day"
> (from "it's alright").
>
(here they're picking on the fact that schools often teach people <prhaps
unintentionally??> that acceptance isn't always a good thing...
> wednesday, may 27, 1998
> copyright 1998 the new york times
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see, it's pretty funny, isn't it? they're making fun of the schools for an
extremely stupid decision!
k-bye!
kristi
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hey y'all,
i was off the list for about 1 week. does anyone have a copy of the ny
times article they could forward to me?
thanks,
dan perkins
>austin, texas
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 12:17:45 -0400
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in montreal, you could only see the soy video on the country music
network.
so, dedicated as i am, i actually sat through 6 hours of cowboy hats and
boots to finally tape soy ! (not that i hate country but 6 hours
is waaaaay too much for me.)
that was last summer though and they only played it for about 2 weeks i
think.
isabelle
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 12:19:11 edt
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in a message dated 98-05-27 12:12:09 edt, you write:
> i think they are fairly obviously being sarcastic here. they are laughing
> at the schools for cancelling people for the subversive-ness of
> acceptance. they are ripping apart the schools for being idiots.
> personally, i think it's great. it's kind of like in the movie scream they
> are picking on horror movies, you see? it's sort of an ironic, sarcastic,
> parody-driven news article, and it's funny...imho
i would personally *hope* they are joking, but you know, this whole thing has
been so stupid and jokeless, that nothing would surprise me anymore. i tend
to think it's meant to be funny too. i just wanted someone else to agree
with me =)
lisa
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 12:33:15 -0400
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hi - i just read in the globe that ig are going to be at harborlights on
july 11. tickets go on sale through next this sunday (5/31). no idea
what time though. i certainly hope it's true :) later.
-sarah
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 13:07:43 pdt
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not to start a string of "me too!" posts, but i was so inspired by
susan's romp through the land o' translating sea creatures that i had to
try it too. here's my results...
--------------------
chickenman
i am only one child, constant of the savage,
solved to spend my time defending my ground.
you are only the, constant one with the sun,
solved to spend your time defending my plan.
dog died on the slow train; (hee)
the median cats grognent against me. (grognent?!)
i turn my lights on more luminous,
cash by the turn of night. (sounds like vegas)
more life for the taker
chickenman
more song for the chickenman generator (lol!)
on the road towards athens,
i saw a common stag death on the slow train. (how poetic & em-like)
i slipped into a desert;
i destroyed five dogs of meadow and a rabbit. (meadowdog?)
i carried out downwards on the street of the queen;
i saw a woman on the pavement.
she was beaten by a foreigner.
danger, danger, danger.
more life for the taker
chickenman
chickenman
chickenman, hold my hand during more life for the generator;
hold my hand, chickenman.
i was on the road in austin;
i met a man on the slow train.
it sold refuse and conversation to me; (chickenman = 'it')
it wise and was modified time. (isn't that line
great?!)
i said, " darkness in the darkness.
all the carnage of my voyages returns it hard food " (even better!)
it said, " it is a long road to be forgiven. "
i went to seek a car, found under stars.
i went to seek a girl, found a man and his world.
chickenman
chickenman
chickenman, hold my hand.
----------------
off to look for more common stag deaths on the slow train....
jill
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> not to start a string of "me too!" posts, but i was so inspired by
> susan's romp through the land o' translating sea creatures that i
had to
> try it too.
yeah, me too :) anyway, try translating it's alright. apparently gay
doesn't translate too well. i got this when i tried converting it to
spanish and back:
and it is well if you hate that way. you hate cause to me that i am
different and you hate cause to me i am glad. the truth of the matter
comes a day around, and is well.
the french route:
and it is well if you hate this way. you hate me cause which i am
different and you hate me cause i am merry. the truth of the matter
come around during a day, and it is well.
okay i'm off to go see how spanish swear words translate.
lori ann
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 17:32:40 -0400
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first of all, let these translations be a warning to never use them for
your french homework translations. the babelfish is not very smart. a
long time ago we were talking about our favorite moments in the girls'
songs, and i, belatedly, must add one that i just noticed this weekend.
on the 1200 curfews version of land of canaan, there's a part where amy
says "sweetheart" in this whispered, out of breath way that sends chills
down my spine. oh, the beauty. and here's something as beautiful (for me
anyway) i think i'm going to appel farm. and i think i may get to work
the 2nd stage, which means i would get a backstage pass yet still get to
see the girls play. this from someone who didn't think she was going to
see the indigo girls until at least january, probably later, due to a
semester in paris starting in august...needless to say, i'm excited. and
i had the most wonderful indigo-filled memorial day weekend - i drove to
philadelphia for the philly folksong society spring thing, this camp
weekend thing, where at least 10 hours of my time was spent playing ig on
the guitar while 7 other girls who knew all the words sang along. it was
great. back to work,
stephanie
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i totally thought that there was a story behind their name from their early
years. wasn't it an agent or someone of theirs who had this nickname for them
and it turned into indigo girls which eventually stuck? i thought that i heard
or read that somewhere. i've never heard of this rainbow idea. i'm just
curious...deb
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 18:54:29 -0400
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so far there's been no info regarding the corresponding dates with the
states. i did go to the much music website and saw the various times pop up
is on, but i haven't had a chance to watch it at all on the dates on vh1 and
see if ctf is on here. if anyone wants to try and see, let me know, that
would be great.
lori
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 19:40:28 edt
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in a message dated 5/27/98 4:47:22 am eastern daylight time, sherlyn@fl.net.au
writes:
<< has anybody actually *got* this compilation? i've
been meaning to order it but it's pretty expensive >>
hey all, i don't own the pete seeger tribute, but our local very cool station
has been playing the hell out of it. it is excellent, and i can't say enough
good about the ig version of letter to eve. as in all ig covers, it totally
outdoes the original. even though i rarely buy music, i may venture out to
purchase this one.
bonnie
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 11:54:38 +1200
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hey all,
i went and saw "i think i do" last night, very cute, and there was
an ad for a snowboarding movie featuring music from the
indigo girls... cool... probably only background, but sounds kind
of interesting... heh, which ig songs do you think would make
cool snowboarding background music...hmmm...?
and i was just wondering if anyone else knew of any other
movies that the ig's music is in, apart from the obvious "boys
on the side" and "philidelphia"...?
tis all,
lynda
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01:23 pm et 05/27/98
anti-abortion group to protest gay fest at disney
by brad liston
orland0, fla. (reuters) - operation rescue, an
anti-abortion, anti-gay group known for angry confrontation and
civil disobedience, will stage protests inside walt disney
world's magic kingdom during an annual gay celebration there in
june, the group's leader says.
more than 100,000 gay and lesbian tourists plan to visit
orlando the first weekend of june for a three-day celebration at
several of the area's theme parks, including disney world.
''we'll be there. we'll be inside the park and we'll make
ourselves known,'' rev. philip ''flip'' benham said in an
interview with reuters from his dallas, texas, home late
tuesday.
''if they think they're going to just drive by us at the
gate, they're wrong. they'll get the same thing inside the park
that they get when they show up at the abortion clinics.''
operation rescue is known for staging high-profile protests
-- benham calls them ''proclamations'' -- involving verbal
confrontation and the passive blocking of access to abortion
clinics.
the protests generally are not violent but are heated and
sometimes lead to large numbers of arrests. benham himself was
arrested outside disney world's gates last december for
obstructing a public street during a protest.
but his promise to take the protest into the magic kingdom
itself, where access is usually blocked only by long lines at
fantasy land or baby strollers outside cinderella's castle, is
unprecedented, local police said.
''i've been here 12 years and i've never heard of anything
like this,'' said jim solomons, a spokesman for the orange
county sheriff's office.
he said three emergency response teams will be available if
there is trouble.
gay days events are sponsored by several gay-rights groups
and gay-owned businesses, not by walt disney co.
but disney has drawn the ire of many conservative christians
for allowing its facilities to be used for the annual gay
celebration.
''sometimes this stuff really tries my patience,'' said roy
disney, vice chairman of the company founded by his uncle walt,
in a recent interview with reuters.
he was referring to the spate of boycotts leveled at disney,
most notably by southern baptists, after gay days last year.
''we're here for everyone. what do these people expect us to
do?''
in a word, said benham, ''repent.''
benham, a 50-year-old minister ordained in the free
methodist church, said disney has become a target because it
once epitomized family values, but now touts ''a world view that
says 'my right, my body, my choice.' but one day (disney
chairman) michael eisner will have to bend his knee before god.
it's god's right and god's choice.''
tom dye, publisher of watermark, a gay and lesbian newspaper
published in central florida, said gays will be there only for
fun and have no intention of taking the bait from operation
rescue.
''this is a fun event,'' said dye. ''it's growing every
year. if there are any problems, i'm sure disney will handle
them with its usual professionalism.''
disney spokesman bill warran commented on benham's plans:
''while we respect everyone's right to a point of view, we also
will work very hard to ensure guests visiting our resort will
have the best possible experience while on their vacation. our
policies would not allow that type of activity in our parks.''
gay days has been an annual event at disney world since
1991, when a group called digital queers -- a few hundred
orlando-area gays who communicated through computer bulletin
boards -- chose disney world as a place to meet face to face.
in the early years, gay celebrants wore red tee shirts so
they could recognize one another.
^reuters@
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>anti-abortion group to protest gay fest at disney
''if they think they're going to just drive by us at the
>gate, they're wrong. they'll get the same thing inside the park
>that they get when they show up at the abortion clinics.''
hey...how many gay people do you know who have gotten abortions?
hmm...i don't know any.....
carol
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 18:56:50 pdt
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hey ya'll since i am jobless at the moment and need money for lilith
fair i've decided to auction off my indigo girls poster.
it's 26"x28" similar the cover of their "indigo girls" album, but it has
indigo girls written on the bottom in yellow and purple.
it's really in good condition, it's been rolled up and put away cuz i
was waiting until i could afford to buy a frame for it! so it really
needs a good home..
i'm gonna start the bidding at $9
it's open till sunday..
lamia
"i am a problem child
i've been wild all my days
all my anger and my rage
my senses said it would lead me astray
i said go go go
raise your hands
raise your hands high
don't take a seat
don't stand aside this time
don't assume anything
but go go go..."
--amy ray, problem child
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 21:59:39 -0400
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ouch...i'm laughing too hard...chickens and wysteria and franglais ctf, oh my!
(hi bethany!) hee hee! sometimes this list is all worthwhile. don't ya
wish we had a convention of ig'ers or sumpin? maybe we should all agree to
meet at one time in a yahoo chat room or something? have a moderated
discussion or just chatter all together? would anyone like to pick up this
ball and scooter grrl with it? jill, o queen of....um, yeah, nigc and other matters? ;o
as for lesbian classics, i'm loving "odd girls and twilight lovers: a history
of lesbianism in 20th century america". good read and fun. makes it all a
lot clearer.
crikey.... i'm going to bed.
h
ps. i have realized my lifelong dream of being a librarian! ! ! i'm not
even kidding! :) i get to stroke spines all day and get paid minimum wage!
whoopee! let me know if you care.
> "i to awake with a headache like my head against
> panel twice such a cloudy such as i harm front and i v in seeking
> clearness."
-- me, after three killians' and the smell of shrimp a-beginnin' ta boil.
i'm the water, i'm the dishes, i'm the soap -- sleater-kinney
pps. more igc! really this time! they're playing harborlights july 13; tix
go on sale sunday. this is boston i'm referring to, i mean, i don't want to
be cruel and rub it in, but then again this will be the sixth or seventh time
they've come in a 2-hour radius of me in at least 7 months, but i don't
believe in being mean. all i want is for veda hille to come to town.
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at 09:32 pm 5/27/98 edt, carol ann wrote:
>hey...how many gay people do you know who have gotten abortions?
>hmm...i don't know any.....
i know what carol said was intended to be a joke, and this is
not a flame of any kind, but:
can we please just not discuss abortions on this list?
i'd be willing to bet there are several forums on the web
for this topic exclusively, and if we want to discuss it, we
should be able to find them on our own.
i just wanted to put in this request before this abortion thing turned
into some out-of-control thread. please, let's just don't mention the word
anymore. out of respect for someone(s) who may not need to hear it
right now. (no, it's not me, for those who are now consumed by curiousity.)
okay?
thank you,
leigh ann
"what's your name?"
"mike."
"what's your name, mike?"
"sam."
-sam & maggie, "addicted to love"
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date: wed, 27 may 1998 20:39:27 -0600
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can you believe that ig is in stephen king's book rose madder? they are
playing a benefit concert for abused and battered women!! what a
coinkidink!!!!
:)shelley (just a little slow at writing to the list...been reading the
book for several weeks!)
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hi beauties
i just spotted something....there's a great picture in the book "bodies of
subversion: a secret history of women and tattoo"edited by margot
mifflin.....its amy's tat, live and very close up. if you cant find the book
and wanna se eit, ill see if one of you nice-ies will scan it onto your website
someone else has probably already posted, but anyways, im doin it again. cuz
im funny like that
go pacers,
sus
ps pooh, yer bad.:) i gotta go to a meeting, you are soooo bad.
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hey now...
please excuse the mini rant which is to follow, but i just cant help myself.
why is it that we are *always* asking each other to not waste bandwidth with
this and that? the subject is always something different...life, a semirelated
artist, opinions, work, gossip...but there are always a few of us who complain
about it. why? there *is* infact a news only list. and, i have found that
almost everyone with nigc marks their mail as just that. i think all of you
are great, and i enjoy the little conversations that go on here. i think many
of us do. if you dont, please consider the news only list. i dont want to make
any enemies, i really dont...but flame if you must.
love and rainbow snowcones,
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well said leigh ann. abortion doesnt need to be discussed on this list.
thanx,
chrissy
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 15:01:33 +1200
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as the teletubbies say uh-o....
i feel another nigc flame war coming on....
*lynda takes cover*
>>> "julie a. tullock" <away420@aol.com> 28/may/1998 02:45pm
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hey now...
why is it that we are *always* asking each other to not waste
bandwidth with
this and that?
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my god!!! before this, too, gets out-of-hand, let me reiterate
my point: the reason i asked that we not discuss it has *nothing*
whatsoever to do with the nigc factor. period. anyone who read
far enough into my first post should know that.
let there be flames- i'm in the mood.
leigh ann
someone said...
>i feel another nigc flame war coming on....
someone else said...
>why is it that we are *always* asking each other to not waste
>bandwidth with
>this and that?
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hey folks,
i've been surfing again...
* there are a couple of screen shots from the ig/jewel/sarah
lilith fair rendition of "the water is wide" (taken from the
video) at http://www.thebox.com/video/bar_0578_01.
* there's an article and picture i don't recall ever having
seen before from august 1997 (well, some of the quotes look
familiar but i don't recall ever reading the article as a
whole) here: http://www.inthelife.com/fea9708c.htm.
* lynda mentioned a snowboarding movie with ig music in the
soundtrack. if you're *really* curious about the movie (and
let's face it, who isn't? :), you can check this page out:
http://www.mediadome.com/webisodes/sports/about. don't say
i didn't warn you! *grin*
speaking of warnings - as it says in my .sig, i'm going away
next friday for about five days. there won't be any admin
support during that period, so if you're going to need help
unsubbing or anything during that time, best to email me
now...
thanks folks -
sherlyn
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whois this sbm woman who goes to meetings at 11 at night???? just what kind of
people is she meeting??
enquiring minds want to know
go bulls
susan b. marine wrote:
> hi beauties
>
> i just spotted something....there's a great picture in the book "bodies of
> subversion: a secret history of women and tattoo"edited by margot
> mifflin.....its amy's tat, live and very close up. if you cant find the book
> and wanna se eit, ill see if one of you nice-ies will scan it onto your website
>
> someone else has probably already posted, but anyways, im doin it again. cuz
> im funny like that
>
> go pacers,
>
> sus
> ps pooh, yer bad.:) i gotta go to a meeting, you are soooo bad.
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hi y'all,
does anyone know when the girls are scheduled to grace vh1
with their awesome presence?
my interest is not merely casual....
i've been told that i'm featured, albeit for only 30
seconds, in the ig video.
ya never know, i may well be on my way to stardom...
i'll let inquiring minds know if yours truly is really
making her video debut..
thank you oh so smuch!
peace + love, barbara
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 00:00:53 -0400
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not to start a arguement or anyting but no one was talking about
abortions this articale was abotu abortion activist gong to start start
trouble on gay day at disney the only thing said about abortions was by
one listee who said she didnt know of any gay folks who had abortions
on wed, 27 may 1998, chrissy eckstrand wrote:
> well said leigh ann. abortion doesnt need to be discussed on this list.
>
> thanx,
> chrissy
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> ~peace
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1) i wrote to vh1 to request shame on you
2) i actually did not like the pop up video for closer to fine because it took
away from the actual video. for the first time, i was hoping that the video
would finally end. it was a weird experience. on the other hand, since
everyone else is being "popped", i'm glad the girls were popped, too. it did
give a whole bunch of people who never would have been exposed to the igs
to check the girls out.
3) i'm reading more and more about the girls' involvement in honor the earth,
etc. and i have more and more respect for them every day. they don't just
give lip service, they're out there really bringing a message that wouldn't be
heard if we didn't go to their shows. i wouldn't just sign a card at a show
without knowing the background, so now i plan on learning more about exactly
what's happening out there and why the girls are supporting these various
causes. that's what it's all about, right?
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i have to agree here too..it's a personal decision that women make and
it's really not something that i think most people on this list would
feel comfortable discussing..
lamia
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hey y'all. i just wanted to let you know that youthpride just got its own
home near little five points thanks to your support through the cd,
"thrive", and through private donations. instead of using a youth hostel,
yp is now in a newly renovated photography studio. if you're going to the
atlanta pride fest in june, look for our booth! thanks again.
christy :)
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<<* lynda mentioned a snowboarding movie with ig music in the
soundtrack. if you're *really* curious about the movie (and
let's face it, who isn't? :), you can check this page out:
http://www.mediadome.com/webisodes/sports/about. don't say
i didn't warn you! *grin*>> - sherlyn
i checked this site. it sounds like there really is a movie! snowboarding to
ig music--hey, why not?
wmntime
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i need your help! i'm updating my boot list and (now that i have the
time) am finally getting all of them organized. there are couple of
shows/tapes that i need dates for...hopefully you can help me out. ;)
please mail me privately if ya' hold the powah. :) even if you only know
the year in which they were put together, that'd help me to put them in
some sort of order. i'm feelin' really anal today. i need to have
these things organized so i can start trading hot and heavy.
* a history of us
* reverse one live
anyone? anyone? :)
thank ya'.
bethany :)
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heh heh...yeaaaaah kiddos, that infamous cover tape that a few of you
contributed your glorious tunes to (too long ago!) is nearly finished. i
know, i know, it has been 7 long months, but when the semester started i
realized there was absolutely no time...(ummm...next on my list of
things to do...learn some organizational skills...look into some time
management workshops...don't offer to compile an indicated tape 2 months
before the semester starts... :)
soooo, the good news is...the liners are being printed and it has just
been compiled...therefore, it will be ready in about two weeks. ;) hell
yeah! are we excited?! yes we are!!! indicated iv -- "pretty
pretenders"...hot off the presses...sooooon. :) after all of the
contributing musicians have their copies i'll offer it to the list...i
know many of you were interested in gettin' yer paws on it. :)
later indigators,
bethany :)
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 17:59:44 +1200
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well i never, fancy not believing me...!
i am a reliable source, am i not sherlyn...*sniff*...tee hee
>>> deb johnson <wmntime@aol.com> 28/may/1998 04:36pm >>>
<<* lynda mentioned a snowboarding movie with ig music in
the
soundtrack. if you're *really* curious about the movie (and
let's face it, who isn't? :), you can check this page out:
http://www.mediadome.com/webisodes/sports/about. don't
say
i didn't warn you! *grin*>> - sherlyn
i checked this site. it sounds like there really is a movie!
snowboarding to
ig music--hey, why not?
wmntime
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 00:16:10 -0700
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well i haven't heard the original, but i think the letters to eve cover is
*amazing*. it's like nothing i've ever heard the girls do before...the
heavy drum beat...and those vocal effects...it's so visceral. and to hear
amy and emily chant such words as salaam and hey wa over and over...it's my
new mantra. :) definitely the standout song on the cd imo, and no, i'm not
biased. ;)
hey wa,
traci
>in a message dated 5/27/98 4:47:22 am eastern daylight time, sherlyn@fl.net.au
>writes:
>
><< has anybody actually *got* this compilation? i've
> been meaning to order it but it's pretty expensive >>
>
>hey all, i don't own the pete seeger tribute, but our local very cool station
>has been playing the hell out of it. it is excellent, and i can't say enough
>good about the ig version of letter to eve. as in all ig covers, it totally
>outdoes the original. even though i rarely buy music, i may venture out to
>purchase this one.
>
>bonnie
>
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in a message dated 98-05-28 01:59:07 edt, l1rw@telecom.co.nz writes:
<< well i never, fancy not believing me...!
i am a reliable source, am i not sherlyn...*sniff*...tee hee
>>
ummmm....i didn't say i didn't believe you <g>, i just meant that it sounded
weird
that there would be a snowboarding movie at all let alone a movie with the
indigo girls in it.
wmntime
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ummm...clarification--the igs are not in the movie, just their music. this is
according to the website sherlyn mentioned and what lynda first found out
about
by seeing another movie.
:)
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hey ya'll
could someone fill me in on the dates that the ig pop-up video appears on
vh-1?? i kinda misplaced the last listing and i want to tape the
show...thanks!!! you can email me with the info!!!
thanks again
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 07:39:38 -0400
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okay, lemme clear something up here. the colors of the rainbow are roygbiv
red
orange
yellow
green
blue
indigo
violet
thats how i learned it: roygbiv. so you see, indigo is in the rainbow you silly
people! (joking, honestly)
just my 2 cents.
love karen (who is jumping for joy over the seats for camden lilith!!! 14th row,
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karen...
indigo was omitted from the gay pride rainbow, for whatreason, i'm not sure...
does anyone know why???
~~robin (who spent 4 hours in atlanta jail for driving with a suspended
florida driver's license!!!!!)
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 12:52:10 +0100
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on thu, 28 may 1998, robin fouse wrote:
> karen...
>
> indigo was omitted from the gay pride rainbow, for whatreason, i'm not sure...
> does anyone know why???
i'm looking at my little rainbow bracelet here and i can't tell whether
it's indigo or violet that's missing. i guess the name violet girls hasn't
got such a ring to it. lavender girls? i dunno...
lots of scope for sad tribute band names though eh?
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 07:54:44 -0400
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lmao!!! how bout yellow girls! green girls (hey they are into green stuff)
nah...indigo is perfect!
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i always thought indigo was black, but it is acutally deep blue purple, am i
correct? even though i remember roy, i can't remember what indigo looks like, my
brain pictures amy and emily whenever i think indigo
love, k
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okay, how bout a stupid verse translation thread?
"screwed up boys in argentina"
that's what i thought they were singing!
k
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sort of stupid to discuss, but i'm going through a major life crisis
now. i work for my husband and his doofus partner who hates me...the
only peace i get is that all my ig cd's are in my office and constantly
playing on 6 cd rotation. so here i sit, writing to the list instead of
rushing off to work! long story, won't bore you but please pray for me
k
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>karen...
>
>indigo was omitted from the gay pride rainbow, for whatreason, i'm not sure...
>does anyone know why???
i downloaded this from the net eons ago and now i cannot remember the
source, sorry. this answers your question.
---
the first rainbow flag was designed in 1978 by gilbert baker, a san
francisco artist, who created the flag in response to a local activist's
call for the need of a community symbol. (this was before the pink triangle
was popularly used as a symbol of pride.) using the five-striped "flag of
the race" as his inspiration, baker designed a flag with eight stripes:
pink, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet. according to
baker, those colors represented, respectively: sexuality, life, healing,
sun, nature, art, harmony, and spirit. baker dyed and sewed the material for
the first flag himself - in the true spirit of betsy ross.
baker soon approached san francisco's paramount flag company about mass
producing and selling his "gay flag". unfortunately, baker had hand-dyed all
the colors, and since the color "hot pink" was not commercially available,
mass production of his eight-striped version became impossible. the flag was
thus reduced to seven stripes.
in november 1978, san francisco's gay community was stunned when the city's
first openly gay supervisor, harvey milk, was assassinated, wishing to
demonstrate the gay community's strength and solidarity in the aftermath of
this tragedy, the 1979 pride parade committee decided to use baker's flag.
the committee eliminated the indigo stripe so they could divide the colors
evenly along the parade route - three colors on one side of the street and
three on the other. soon the six colors were incorporated into a six-striped
version that became popularized and that, today, is recognized by the
international congress of flag makers.
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in a message dated 5/28/98 6:48:23 am, atlmouse@aol.com wrote:
<<indigo was omitted from the gay pride rainbow, for whatreason, i'm not
sure...
does anyone know why???>>
originally there were 8 colors to the rainbow flag (i think pink was in there
too, but don't quote me), but there were printing problems, which brought it
down to the six colors we use today.
dee
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hey y'all--
with this recent talk of amy's tatoo in a book, i was wondering if anyone
had a pic of her new tatoo? ( i assume the one in the book is of the hand)
just curious,
lmd
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i'm not even gay but i *thought* there was a rainbow symbolism at stonewall
- the flag has been used way earlier than '79 - i know the pink triangle
w3as used earlier, at least i think it was - i did a bunch of research on
the various triangles (contrary to popular belief, most historians put the
black triangle to represent people with disabilities, not necessarily
lesbians, who were deemed political undesirables or something to that
effect)
my disabled, lesbian goddess of a professor told me this...
i may be completely wrong..
mike r.
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oh happy days!!! i have something postworthy.
imagine my supreme happiness this morning when i woke to find the video
for "the water is wide" playing on vh1. this was about 6:50 am mountain
time. just thought that i would share. it was so lovely, and emily and
amy looked great... oh, well, back to work... just thought i would
share!!
much love and all things indigo!
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gotta go with karen there. she is right with the rainbow thing.
-jen
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on thu, 28 may 1998, karen frey wrote:
> okay, lemme clear something up here. the colors of the rainbow are roygbiv
>
> red
> orange
> yellow
> green
> blue
> indigo
> violet
>
> thats how i learned it: roygbiv. so you see, indigo is in the rainbow you silly
> people! (joking, honestly)
>
> just my 2 cents.
>
> love karen (who is jumping for joy over the seats for camden lilith!!! 14th row,
> center stage woohooo!!!)
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>imagine my supreme happiness this morning when i woke to find the video
>for "the water is wide" playing on vh1.
is this the water is wide from various specials? is it the one from the
toronto lf? is amy wearing the red shirt spotted with yellow? is jewel
wearing a tight white & purple shirt with ribbons?
just curious....
love,
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pooh asked:
>who is this sbm woman who goes to meetings at 11 at night???? just what
kind of
>people is she meeting??
>enquiring minds want to know
i don't know who she is but i'm sure she is the niiiicest person in all
of ig-land, and i'm sure she shines like a radiant star, or the sun, or
or or something really shiny.
jill (why yes there is something brown on my nose, however could you see
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roy g. biv only applies to real rainbows. most ppl
omit indigo when drawing/making rainbows because it's
so close to blue and purple, and smooshed between
them. as for flags and gay pride.....
the idea of the rainbow for a symbol of gay pride was
thought up in the late 70's, by gilbert baker.
originally it was red, orange, yellow, green, blue,
purple, hot pink and turquoise.
baker made it for san fran pride, because all they
had was the pink triangle, and that's from the
nazi's. he made the dyes (i just typed dykes--how's
that for a slip?) naturally and the cotten was all
natch too.
anyways, when the flag became mass produced, there
was no such flag cotten color as hot pink, and
turquoise was too expensive.
within two yrs of being created, the flag was so
popular the world's supply of purple flag cotten ran
out! :)
the flag became recognized by the international flag
committee (or something like that) in 1986.
i learned all this from the web site below, an old
web site i can't seem to find the link to, and my out
in front daily calendar.
queer-story rocks, no?
one more quick gay flag story--christine (my gf)
lives in columbus ga and there's this guy who sells
flags in a little booth. he has the rainbow flag and
the confederate flag right next to each other! is
that supposed to be a joke, or does he not have a
clue what the rainbow is, or what?
amanda
ps for those of you keeping track, 22 days till
christine comes!!!
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indigo girl speaks out after controversial concert bans
saliers meets with decatur high students
by laura brown
just two weeks after high schools in south carolina and tennessee canceled
free
concerts by the duo, indigo girls' emily saliers spoke to gay teens and their
straight supporters at atlanta's decatur high school.
saliers led a casual discussion may 19 with twenty members of spectra, an
after school organization for youth dealing with issues of sexuality.
the group, whose name stands for students promoting education, compassion,
trust, respect and acceptance, began this fall and may be the only gay-
straight
alliance in georgia's public school system.
"it's really important that we are having this discussion now, especially with
what
just happened to us in some other high schools," saliers told the students.
indigo girls were scheduled to perform a free show at irmo high school in
columbia, s.c., may 7, but the principal canceled the appearance after parents
complained that saliers and singing partner amy ray are lesbians.
the grammy-winning duo instead played at columbia's township auditorium and
gave away 2,000 of the 3,000 available tickets free to high school students.
several
students who were suspended for walking out of classes in protest of the
cancellation are fighting their punishment in court.
of the duo's five scheduled high school concerts, only two took place. indigo
girls
performed april 13 at loganville high school in loganville, ga., and may 4 at
franklin high school in franklin, tenn.
but farragut high school in knoxville, tenn., backed out of their show
scheduled
for may 6, as did germantown high school in memphis, tenn. germantown
principal edward chism said his decision to ax the may 5 concert came after
indigo girls used profanity in one song of their set in loganville.
"some parents found out that we were gay and complained to the principals, and
they canceled the shows, and it had sort of a domino effect. in the press
there was
a lot of talking about how people feel about gay people, and we tried to
engage in
some dialogue with the parents, but they wouldn't agree to that," saliers told
the
decatur high students, adding that she didn't believe the principals were
really
concerned about profanity.
"i don't know if you know the song, 'shame on you,' but it has the f-word in
it, and
at the first school we played, amy sang the word," she explained. "i don't
believe
that you should be allowed to use free profanity in school, i think that there
do have
to be boundaries and it is offensive to some people, and amy understood that
and
she called the principal after that show and apologized to him.
"what amy did then was call other principals and say that we will sign a piece
of
paper saying that we won't use profanity, but what happened was they used that
as
an excuse because they knew that sexuality was such a hot topic and there was
such a protest against it."
while the high school incident was more obvious, saliers said she believes she
and
ray have also experienced more subtle homophobia during their careers.
"amy and i have been really lucky to be successful, and we just sort of do our
thing
and half the time we forget we're gay," she said. "we can play chastain park
for
three nights and then turn around and play small clubs, so our sexuality
really hasn't held us back.
"but i think what has hurt us is the talk that goes on behind our backs, and i
think
there is homophobia in things like radio programming decisions ... i feel sure
that
there is prejudice against us in that, and there are also people in record
companies
who talk about our image or lack of it. we don't match the way women are
supposed to act or dress."
straight allies can have "a lot" of impact in helping gay people be treated
fairly,
saliers told the spectra members, many of whom identified as heterosexual.
"if you're gay, there's a certain amount of self hatred that goes on whether
you want
to admit it or not," she said. "i've been thinking about this a lot, because
when the
school [shows] got canceled, it really hurt our feelings. but most of the
students
who supported us weren't gay, and that impressed us a lot. ...
"having the heterosexual community come out and embrace people is good for
morale-it's having people say, 'you know what, sexuality is not an issue for
us,'"
saliers continued. "whether or not i admit it, i am affected by what society
thinks
to a certain extent, so to have heterosexual people embrace you as a human
being,
regardless of sexuality, is very affirming and empowering ...
"the support of straight people is invaluable because a lot of times,
unfortunately,
straight people are going to change other straight people's minds more than
gay
people."
as students shared their own stories about speaking out for acceptance,
especially
within their churches, saliers said her own father-a united methodist minister
and
theology professor-is supportive of her sexuality.
"i was raised christian and methodist, and my dad is a minister. he does
[accept
me]," she said. "my dad doesn't believe that homosexuality is a sin, and i go
to
church in a place where the minister doesn't believe it is a sin. the
methodist
church won't ordain homosexuals, but it's changing."
saliers said she came out after her sophomore year in college, "but growing up
i
always had really close friendships with other girls-nothing sexual at all,
but really
close friendships. back in high school, i never really had a language for
sexuality."
asked whether she experienced a "pivotal moment" that prompted her coming out,
"well, somebody kissed me," saliers laughed, "and i was like, 'ah, that's how
it's
supposed to be.' then i had to go through the whole process of thinking about
it
and asking how i feel about sexuality, how i feel about homosexuality, how i
relate
this to my spirituality, how my family will respond ... so it was a pivotal
moment,
and then there was a period of thinking about it."
she also encouraged the students, most of whom were white and female, to
consider the current controversy in the nearby kirkwood neighborhood and the
questions it raises about the interactions between sexuality, race and gender.
[see
story, page 7]
"a black minister called neighbors together to protest the white gays and
lesbians
taking over their neighborhood, and i wanted to talk about that, because
that's a
double issue," she said. "we need to think about how we separate those
issues-how neighbors can feel like they can lose their identities when other
people come in, and then it is a gay issue on top of that. and that is going
on in our
neighborhood."
despite the recent controversy in other schools, decatur high school principal
william j. funk said he had no reservations in allowing saliers' visit.
"she came as part of a special meeting they had, and from what i hear it was a
success ... it was a completely different situation from what i read about in
the
paper," he told southern voice.
asked whether he shared the other principals' concerns about indigo girls
using
profanity and being lesbians, "the latter did not concern me, and as for the
former, if
it had been an assembly program, it might have been different. this wasn't
part of
curriculum related activity, but we are concerned about language and setting a
good
example with students," funk said.
although other principals and parents have disagreed, funk said he believes
saliers
and ray are appropriate role models for students.
"i have been to indigo girls concerts, and amy ray is a contemporary of my
daughter at church. i have very special personal feelings for the indigo
girls, and i
judge them by their music and their social concerns," he said.
dhs student samantha ryan, a self-described "rampant lesbian," said saliers'
visit
was the perfect way for the organization she founded to end its first year.
"it was magical," she said. "this is my last meeting and i think this is just
the perfect send-off ... i love spectra with all my heart, it was my baby, and
i'll still be around, just in the shadows." a junior, ryan said she is leaving
dhs after this year in order to attend the county's open campus high school
and graduate early.
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subject: re: nigc disney and gay day and the homophobs
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you know.....i have know idea if this is even going to post on the list or
not....i am new, never have posted anything before,and i must say that i am
confused.....i was under the impression that this was a list for ig
fans....i agree with what lamia said....not something i want to read about
on this list....there is though a listing for those of you who need or want
it....
www.gynpages.com....
there you can't get information and vent what-ever frustrations you have
with the prolifers....please, no more abort talk....
thanks
peace and love
joyous
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>i have to agree here too..it's a personal decision that women make and
>it's really not something that i think most people on this list would
>feel comfortable discussing..
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>pink, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet.
>those colors represented, respectively: sexuality, life, healing,
>sun, nature, art, harmony, and spirit.
nice coincidence: indigo = harmony. :)
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i heard somewhere that indigo was omitted from the gay pride rainbow because they
needed an even number of colours. i think they were going to have a rally or
something and wanted to have people hold a big flag of each of the colours and
wanted half of them coming in on one side and half on the other or something like
that.
well, don't quote me, this is just what i remember hearing one time....
sharon
robin fouse wrote:
> karen...
>
> indigo was omitted from the gay pride rainbow, for whatreason, i'm not sure...
> does anyone know why???
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> ~~robin (who spent 4 hours in atlanta jail for driving with a suspended
> florida driver's license!!!!!)
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 15:37:21 -0400
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just saw on the news - phil hartmann of snl fame found shot to death in his
california home with his wife. he was 49 years old.
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 15:55:03 -0400
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does anyone still have that article about gay day at disney? i guess i
deleted it, and someone wants me to send it to them. would someone please
send it to me again?
thanks.
rich benson
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i have changed
i am saved
i have bitten off the pieces that i did not want
i have torn them into tiny bits of rain
oh the sun has dried those memories like
i knew it would
oh, i am saved saved
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well it appears to be true....murder-suicide
thursday may 28 1:59 pm edt
comedian phil hartman found dead - police
los angeles (reuters) - canadian-born actor and comedian phil hartman, the
"saturday night live" star known for his impersonation of president
clinton, was found dead from gunshot wounds at his estate thursday, police
said.
his wife, bryn, was also found dead at the home in suburban los angeles and
police said it appeared she shot hartman, then killed herself as police
arrived.
two children were removed from the house, located in an upscale section of
encino, california, about 15 miles west of los angeles. the children's
identity were not immediately known, police said.
hartman, 49, was found in his bed.
police said they responded to a call about 6 a.m. local time (9 a.m. edt)
from people in the area who heard gunshots. police raced to the scene and
discovered the bodies.
after eight years as a star of "saturday night live," the ontario-born
hartman become part of the cast of the nbc sitcom "news radio," in 1995,
playing anchorman bill mcneal. the show, which had problems finding an
audience, was recently renewed by nbc.
hartman was famed for his impersonations of leading political and celebrity
figures, especially clinton. hartman also supplied the voices for several
recurring characters on the cartoon series "the simpsons."
his film credits include appearances in "pee-wee's big adventure" (1985),
"three amigos" (1986), "national lampoon's loaded weapon i" (1993),
"coneheads" (1993), "jingle all the way" (1996), "sgt. bilko" (1996) and
the upcoming "small soldiers."
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hey y'all. i got a url from another list to which i belong that is a page
dedicated to misheard lyrics. the url is http://www.kissthisguy.com/ if
anyone is intersted in visiting it. some of you may have seen it already so
if this is old news then skip it. interesting page but they don't have any
ig songs listed. we should send them a list because, god knows, we have a
ton ;) later!
jendy
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 14:28:26 -0700
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this is a spinoff from the rainbow flag tangent, but i suspect people
will be interested.
anyways, there is a great book by phyllis burke called
_family values: two moms and their son_
which discusses the history of queer culture in san francisco in
general, and a lot of stuff about gilbert in particular.
it's also just a great book and there is a tiny dab of igc in the fact
that the moms love ig.
blatant plug over now
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 14:19:32 -0400
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subject: re: rainbow
i'm not sure if robin's question called for an answer to the list, but
since i do recall reading this on my oh-so-lovely gay and lesbian page a
day calendar, i think that i'll share :)
according to the april 24th 1998 page,
"in 1978, using organically grown and dyed cotton, gilbert baker designed
and made the first rainbow flag. while originally the flag was made with
eight colors, hot pink and turquoise were eliminated becasue of the cost.
within the first two years of production, the flag became so popular
that it used up the world's supply of purple flag cotton."
so i guess it was just a cost factor...what a diss to indigo, and i'm
assuming that's the turquoise they're talking about here...i haven't seen
a good freedom flag lately so maybe i'm just confused. :) of course this
is a bit different than that article that somebody else posted, but hey,
it's a calendar. i guess it can't be that explicit :)
carolyn
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sorrow. so my fantasy becomes reality, and i must be what i must be and
face tomorrow. so i'll
continue to continue to pretend my life will never end, and flowers never
bend with the rainfall.
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 18:06:59 -0400
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phil hartman was a comedic genius... one of the greatest
comedic talents that ever lived....
he was hysterically funny and he made me laugh so much...
more upsetting than his death is....
his poor children, this traumatic event will profoundly
affect them for a lifetime...
those two children are gonna need counseling forever...
how could a mother do such a thing to her children?
obviously she was sick, but no reason can justify killing
phil while his children slept and then herself.... she must
have been a narcissist and a pig....
peace + love,
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i keep checking the website but cannot access the lineup! who else is playing
at this event?!?! also, i haven't revceived any mail from the list in two
days. hmmmm........
marci
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 15:30:00 pdt
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barbra wrote:
she must have been a narcissist and a pig....
i'm not justifying murder but i think that statement is a bit harsh, it
appeared that she killed him and then herself, they don't have any proof
yet that it was her. also you don't know if he was a drinker or on
drugs, maybe he abused her. if you want to say that phil hartman was a
good comedian and that its' a great loss, then that's ok, but to say
that stuff about a recently deceased woman? i think that's really
uncalled for..
lamia
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 18:34:20 edt
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hi all!
i have a journalist buddy who just wrote a really interesting piece about gays
in christian churches. he interviewed pastors from different denominations;
they talked about membership, marriages, bible verses, etc.
it is long, though. worth it, but long. if anyone out there is interested,
email me & i'll send it your way. :)
peace,
lisa j.
who's really sad that phil is gone. :( r.i.p. mr. hartman! thanks for the
laughs.
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 16:07:52 pdt
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excuse me for being probably really stupid, but i thought little five
points got closed a long time ago? any insights?
-alicia
date: thu, 28 may 1998 00:24:02 -0400
from: christy lynch <cml@mindspring.com>
subject: youthpride
hey y'all. i just wanted to let you know that youthpride just got its
own
home near little five points thanks to your support through the cd,
"thrive", and through private donations. instead of using a youth
hostel,
yp is now in a newly renovated photography studio. if you're going to
the
atlanta pride fest in june, look for our booth! thanks again.
christy :)
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 16:11:06 pdt
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hi, me again.. i'm a relative lurker but, eh i'll post again...
the last time i took a science class, physics (blech!) we were told
that indigo had been omitted from the scientific rainbow because blue
and violet kind of meshed together.
also, i heard from a friend that ig may be coming to rochester, ny this
summer... is there any concrete info on this?
thanks!
-alicia
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 19:21:38 -0400
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pooh asked:
>who is this sbm woman who goes to meetings at 11 at night???? just what
kind of
>people is she meeting??
>enquiring minds want to know
i don't know who she is but i'm sure she is the niiiicest person in all
of ig-land, and i'm sure she shines like a radiant star, or the sun, or
or or something really shiny.
jill (why yes there is something brown on my nose, however could you see
it?
aw gee shucks jilly grrl, im not so great. but i am great on the xylophone
ducks,
sus
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subject: nigc misheard lyrics (or mister limes:)
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speaking of mister limes, how about this one?
in dgtgag, when amy sings "i'm not dignified anymore..."
at first, when i heard it, it sounded more like, "i'm not gettin' fat anymore"
hehe...not that i'm trying to revive that old thread or anything.
but i'll have to say it was a lot of fun! wasn't someone compiling
all of our mister limes that we came up with? whatever happened with
that? i'd love to have a copy of that list... if anyone knows, please
e me privately.
thanks,
leigh ann
at 04:43 pm 5/28/98 -0400, joanie wrote:
>hey y'all. i got a url from another list to which i belong that is a page
>dedicated to misheard lyrics.
we should send them a list because, god knows, we have a ton ;)
"what's your name?"
"mike."
"what's your name, mike?"
"sam."
-sam & maggie, "addicted to love"
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 19:54:44 edt
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i just skimmed through some of the postings about phil hartman...
oh my god, i'm in shock! this is terrible!
i'm very upset....i used to love watching him on saturday night live. he was
so funny.
wmntime
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 18:57:00 -0400
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at 04:07 pm 5/28/98 pdt, alicia bender wrote:
>excuse me for being probably really stupid, but i thought little five
>points got closed a long time ago? any insights?
>-alicia
little five points *pub* did close down, but there is a community
in ga called little five points, and i think that's what was being
referred to in the youth pride post.
just a little fyi,
leigh ann
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 20:16:53 -0400
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so is anyone else from the list going to gay day besides me? i feel all
alone here. :(
steph
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 20:47:01 -0400
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hey. good question. little five points is a community in atlanta that is
made up of five intersecting roads (hence the name!). the little five
points pub did indeed close, but for some reason, until about a month or
two ago there was a pub in (i think!) the same location with the same name.
now its some random pub that has been totally redecorated. do any other
atlantans know anything about this? does the picture the girls gave the pub
still hang in there? thanks.
chris :)
"i want nothing but quiet and an active brain."
virginia woolf
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 21:15:26 -0500
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hi all,
actually the little 5 points pub is till in existence. however,
it's nothing like the old days. it always make sme sad and nostalgic
when i drive by it. *sigh*
smiles,
allison
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date: thu, 28 may 1998 19:32:42 -0700
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i am going to the one at disneyland, ca. the one in florida is sold
out. if anyone is going from the san diego area mail me.
love~luna
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