lifeblood: listlogs: 1998-06b


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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 00:16:19 -0400
reply-to:     indigo head <s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu>
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subject:      going to sf lilith on the 24th?
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hey everyone!

i have a question.  i am in berkeley.  is there a kind soul who could
either a) drive me to lilith on the 24th (i could even meet you near a
bart stop if you don't wanna come all the way to berkeley) or b) give me
directions on how to get to shoreline via public transportation?  my worry
about that is, if i took something like caltrain, don't they stop service
at 10pm or something?  if anyone could help me, please e-mail me!

thanks so much!

:-) karen

ps- i'd be appy to dub a boot (once i get back to chicago in august) to
anyone who gives me a ride.  heck, make that 2 boots!  and i'd help w/ gas
and parking and anything!

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 00:33:11 -0400
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subject:      re: go bulls!
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on sun, 7 jun 1998, indigo head wrote:

> just had to add my 2cents to that!  go bulls!  it was great watching the
> game from california and watching my home team embarass the jazz!

   ah, but it was even better watching them try to justify their series
trash talk when the "speed bump" that was the indianapolis pacers took 'em
all the way to game 7.
   funny they should complain about the officiating and then use michael
jordan's agent as a ref in that last game...just covering their bases, i
suppose.
   it just goes to show that a man's true nature comes out when he loses,
and as much as i despise pro sports in general, well, i'd like to see
somebody wallop those overpaid prissies, who've been treated with kid
gloves because they sell so much merchandise.
   go jazz!  (it is the jazz they're playing, right?  gosh i would feel
stupid if...)

   darius

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date:         fri, 1 may 1998 21:44:34 -0700
reply-to:     caroline castaneda <hac@quiknet.com>
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subject:      more on the sys at lilith--
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since so many of you inquired....

the number of eps with the sys remix will be 50 per show.

love
caroline

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 01:19:24 edt
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yaaayyy!!!!!  omigosh, i can not believe it!  my ultra conservative little
radio station is playing the shed your skin remix -- which, by the way, now
that i've heard it sounds awesome!  i think i'm in heaven, ig on the radio?
where i live? (va) this is unbelievable!

just had to share!

floating on air
kar

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date:         sun, 7 jun 1998 23:58:48 pdt
reply-to:     jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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subject:      curiouser and curiouser...
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hey y'all,
is it just me,
or is tigger

(>high priestess academy
>"jillybabe"
>"brown-haired chick
>some lesbo band
>some hick town"
>the one with the robe and candles)

gettin goofier and goofier lately? ;)  and should we, as a collective,
intentional, self-sustaining community, be concerned?... :p

never seen nothin like it...
jill "just call me babe" certo

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 00:09:11 pdt
reply-to:     jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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i know you saw this:

>darius, i salute you.
>
>sincerely,
>ian c.

awwww, look at the snag's (sensitive new-age guys) getting all
solidarity and stuff!!!  how sweeeeeeeeet, makes me renew my faith in
the male half o' the species.

gush gush,
jill

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 07:35:07 -0400
reply-to:     karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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okay, i totally understand ig's stance on boots for sale.  however, i am
guilty of purchasing every sarah boot i can get my hands on.  i'd also
purchase any ig boots i could get my hands on but they are so rare that
my record store can't get any.

imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  someone somewhere said
that and as a die hard ig fan, if i could get bootleg cd's of our girls,
i'd be tickled pink, wether they were given to me or if i had to pay for
them.  my appreciation of their talent is what makes me search....

just my 2 cents.

peace k

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 07:53:01 edt
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does anyone know if the girls are performing at fleadh in illinois in june?

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 08:58:07 edt
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in a message dated 98-06-08 02:59:25 edt, jillyc@hotmail.com writes:

<< gettin goofier and goofier lately? ;)  and should we, as a collective,
intentional, self-sustaining community, be concerned?... :p

>>

who, me?

:::innocent expression:::

~~tigger (you know, the goofy one with the altar and the framed picture of
jilly certo)

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 08:14:33 -0500
reply-to:     "h. stagge" <hstagge@mcs.com>
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>does anyone know if the girls are performing at fleadh in illinois in june?
>
no, the girls aren't performing at fleadh in illinois. instead, tracy
chapman and sinead o'connor are some of the scheduled performers.

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 06:57:38 -0700
reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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> rdr, and soon after that, rdr quit selling any ig stuff at all.  also, not
> long after, rdr held a benefit concert, convinced a bunch of atlanta folks to
> play (*for free* i think) to raise money for a new building.  with the money
> from that concert, rdr moved to key west.

rdr did not hold that concert with the intention of moving.  they really
were planning to stay in atlanta at the time of the benefit.  believe
what you want, but the folks at rainy day records are not bad people.
how many times in our lives do we make plans for things that then change
quickly?  rdr also said after the show that if anyone had a problem
with giving them money at the benefit that they would give their money
back.  and that benefit did not, contrary to apparently popular belief,
fund the move to key west.

i am not making excuses for any parties involved in the rdr bootleg
problem, but i wanted to address this inaccuracy.

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 07:28:25 -0700
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hey - i'm a first time poster here...but have been in 'lurkdom' for
quite some time...so hi, nice to meet yall and i love all the info
that comes to me through this list - you all seem like neato people!
*grin*

i went to the appel farm fest this past weekend - whoa.  incredible.
the girls were amazing.  i held up some posters that they saw, read,
and responded to - couldnt believe it...yep still coming down from
that high...i think it will take awhile! haha  they sang the new song
'gone again' - i dig it - if you've heard it before, what do you
think?  dig it?  naturally, they sang 'closer to fine' and really
encouraged audience involvement - and they seemed to get a kick out of
it!  it was an all around perfect day - the weather was beautiful - so
relaxing!  a much needed peaceful kind of day!

so - hope i wasnt too long winded for my first post!  take it easy -

godspeed,
sunny


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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 07:36:54 -0700
reply-to:     kathleen mulhern <kmulhern@scenicsoft.com>
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sharon parker/kirsten shonle wrote:

> i distinctly remember hearing that the song "shame on you" isn't even
> autobiographical on amy's part...it's based on a film she saw about mexican
> americans...

and the rumour mill begins...  ;o)

_i_ heard that the last part of the song -- the part about"road-block trippin'
in the middle of the night up in gainsville town" is from the film she saw
about mexican americans, however the stuff before, like her friends who wash
the windows, et.al is autobiographical.  the part where she sings "dolittle all
day" is from when she and her window-washing buddies were all hanging out,
listening to pixies album "dolittle."  where did i hear this?  that's a good
question.  i'm pretty sure it was in the curve article...

-kate  :o)

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 10:42:41 -0400
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mike is correct - in the may '97 issue of stomp and stammer (which i have
at home), amy discusses withdrawing her support of this unnamed store
(though it's pretty obvious which store it is) and talks about people
booting their shows.

speaking of russell carter, did anyone see the special "matthew sweet on
the edge" saturday night?  it was an hour long show detailing the day to
day things that go into writing the songs, recording the album, planning
the video, etc. i only saw about half of it, but russell carter (and his
assistant....i think her name was kathy lyons or something like that)
figured pretty prominently in the show.  it showed russell  talking to the
prez of matthew's indie record label, apprising him of the album's progress
and matthew's musical direction, etc.  they were recording the album at
southern tracks, which ig have recorded at.  it was a very interesting
documentary-of-sorts.

btw, whoever was mad because the camera focused in emmylou harris during
letterman - shame on you!  emmylou harris was the most seasoned performer
on that stage,  and i am sure amy and emily felt in awe of sharing  the
same stage with her.  i think they probably showed emmylou the least of
anyone (other than luscious jackson).  i would have liked to have seen less
of rebecka, though, but i'm guessing she's new and probably could use the
exposure...   i thought  it was great performance and a neat musical
moment,  though they all have different voices with different
tones/vibratos...i didn't think everyone's voices blended that well as a
whole, though amy and emily obviously blended together the best (plus they
know the song well, 'cause they sometimes perform the song live).

just my $0.02...

peace,

joan :-d

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 07:56:01 -0700
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karen frey wrote:

> okay, i totally understand ig's stance on boots for sale.  however, i am
> guilty of purchasing every sarah boot i can get my hands on.  i'd also
> purchase any ig boots i could get my hands on but they are so rare that
> my record store can't get any.
>
> imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  someone somewhere said
> that and as a die hard ig fan, if i could get bootleg cd's of our girls,
> i'd be tickled pink, wether they were given to me or if i had to pay for
> them.  my appreciation of their talent is what makes me search....

wow.  that's what i won't do -- pay for a boot.  i consider that stealing.
i mean, amy and emily recorded it -- isn't it wrong for someone to make
money off of something they did without compensating them for it?  there is
such a thing as personal intellectual property.  their music before 1978 (if
there are any) is copywrited for 75 years, and their music after 1978 is
copywrited for the length of their lives plus 20 years (i think it's 20
years).  after that time, their music is public domain and can be used at
will.  but until then, this is their property.  paying for their property
without compensating them is against the law.  the last thing i would ever
want to do is steal from two women who have meant a lot to me.  that sucks,
imho.  and this isn't a flame -- i'm just stating my opinion.  :o)  i mean,
just because you love them and want to have everything they've ever recorded
doesn't justify stealing from them, imho.

-kate  :o)

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 08:12:09 -0700
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joan morrison wrote:

> btw, whoever was mad because the camera focused in emmylou harris during
> letterman - shame on you!  emmylou harris was the most seasoned performer
> on that stage,  and i am sure amy and emily felt in awe of sharing  the
> same stage with her.

bravo!  on the lilith vh1 special, amy said how incredibly awe-struck she was
when emmylou harris walked into the room, saying that it was basically like
witnessing the oral tradition of music.  that's a huge honor for all of those
performers to be included on the same stage with emmylou, and i'm sure they
would have gladly had emmylou sing the entire thing.  i would never begrudge a
living legend their moment in the spotlight!

btw, i loved the way rebecka and emily sang together.  i thought rebecka's
voice (which i had never heard) was incredibly beautiful, and was oh-so-proud
when our little emily held her own against that force!  i always forget the
breadth and strength of her voice until i see it showcased like this.  i was so
happy to be so impressed!  gotta love that emily!

-kate  :o)

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 08:17:49 -0700
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geez!  sorry!

i already admitted that i was wrong, do i really have to be beaten over
the head with my mistake?!?  yikes!  okay okay, cooper and amy didn't
write "1-2-3" together.  cooper isn't the voice on "1-2-3", and that's
chris.  sorry!!  i'm wrong, you're all right!  can we leave this alone,
please?

if this shows, to some of you, that i'm a young, unseasoned ig fan, then
so be it.  i'm not -- been a hardcore fan since '89, and i'm
unfortunately pretty old -- but i don't think one little mistake on who
helped amy write what and who sang backup on what means that i'm any
less of a fan than anyone else.  i would've looked at the liner notes
but i don't have the disk with me here at work.

yeesh, people!  calm down, please -- you're gonna have a heart attack
getting all bunched about little things like this!  ;o)

-kate  :o)

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 11:32:18 -0400
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on mon, 8 jun 1998, jill certo wrote:

> i know you saw this:
> >darius, i salute you.

   ::looking around furtively, sees co-worker::

   i don't know what you're talking about...

> awwww, look at the snag's (sensitive new-age guys) getting all
> solidarity and stuff!!!  how sweeeeeeeeet, makes me renew my faith in
> the male half o' the species.

   shhhh...i was able to explain away the melissa etheridge tapes by
convincing folks that she was a lot like bruce springsteen...but if word
gets out around here that i like the indigo girls...

   darius

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 11:36:37 -0400
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i understand your point...and i accept it.  but since they mean so much to me, i
do want to get everything i can get my hands on.  its not me stealing, i'm
paying the person who bought the boots from the stealer.  so i guess i'd be
guilty of recieving stolen property.  hmmm, but i paid for it so how could it be
stolen?

i dunno, american enterprise works in strange ways.  i'll be buying black market
cigarettes when congress passes this new bill that will raise the price to 5.00
per pack.  does that make me a bad person?  i don't think so.

anyway, everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, and i respect all of you.

karen

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 11:56:57 -0400
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>so - hope i wasnt too long winded for my first post!  take it easy -
>
>godspeed,
>sunny


heheh a heheh    sunny came home.

i crack me up.


rich benson
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these thoughts of fairer weather
though it's storming out
i feel safe within the arms of love's discovery
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i have finished everyone's cdr's that just wanted copies of
the shows i've been offering.  so if you haven't received
yours yet then let me know because i don't have it here and
everything's been mailed last week.

there are still four packages i have here that have audio
tapes in them to be put onto cdr.  so i haven't gotten those
finished yet but probably will later this week/first of next.

-----
as of right now i'm over 450 cdr's burned with about 10 or
so to go in the boot tape conversions.  450 cdr's * 20 minutes
each = 9,000 minutes (or about 150 hours).  plus i've still
got another 20+ hours to get these remaining tapes finished,
and that doesn't include the about 50 hours i've already used
putting tapes on boots for people.

  *^*^*^*^*
*   _o_   *
*  / | \  *  rick
*  _/ \_  *
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    * _ *

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 09:04:14 -0700
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karen l. frey wrote:

> i understand your point...and i accept it.

thanks!  you're such a sweetheart!

> but since they mean so much to me, i
> do want to get everything i can get my hands on.  its not me stealing, i'm
> paying the person who bought the boots from the stealer.  so i guess i'd be
> guilty of recieving stolen property.  hmmm, but i paid for it so how could it be
> stolen?

well, i too see your point.  however, that reminds me of the argument (though
obviously completely different situations) of someone who buys ivory.  it's already
out there, _i'm_ not killing any elephants, so i'm not the one at fault, right?
actually, you are!  ;o)  oops.  it's supply and demand.  there wouldn't be any ivory
out there if people didn't buy it.  your money should be going to epic and/or ig for
it not to be stealing.  but it's not, it's going to the slime bag who is demanding
money for something that is not his/hers, thus infringing on ig's copywrite and
breaking the law.  i remember when someone wanted a kristen hall cd i thought i
had.  i told her she didn't need to pay for it but she insisted.  so i told her to
send $5 to windham hill.  but it turned out i didn't have the disk, so the point was
moot.  anyway...

> i dunno, american enterprise works in strange ways.  i'll be buying black market
> cigarettes when congress passes this new bill that will raise the price to 5.00
> per pack.  does that make me a bad person?  i don't think so.

weeeell, you shouldn't be smoking in the first place, but that's a discussion for
another time!  ;o)  ;o)  don't you just love it when people preach to you?  ;o)

> anyway, everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, and i respect all of you.

i respect yours, too!  thanks for such a reasoned, nice, calm response!  i
appreciate it!

-kate  :o)

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i went to tower, and they only had the june "cmj." :(

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 12:52:37 -0400
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actually, for works created after 1978, the copyright lasts for the
lifetime of the artist, plus *50* years.  there is currently a push (in
congress?) to lengthen the duration of copyright protection.

peace,

joan

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joan morrison wrote:

> actually, for works created after 1978, the copyright lasts for the
> lifetime of the artist, plus *50* years.  there is currently a push (in
> congress?) to lengthen the duration of copyright protection.

that's right -- it's 50 years.  i couldn't remember.

yeah, the gershwin family is spearheading this fight, as the copright on
some of george gershwin's work, including "rhapsody in blue" expires next
year.  the family makes a butt-load of money off that song -- six figures
from when united airlines used it in their commercial -- and doesn't want
to lose that money.

academics (including myself) are against this, as it means that we won't be
able to publish research as easy.  for instance (although the copyright
fight doesn't include this), when i want to publish my book on
michelangelo, i can use his original writings, as it's now public domain.
but if the copyright law extended back about 500 years, i would have to
gain permission from the buonarotti estate and and pay for the right to use
his name and his writings.  so us greedy academics think people like the
gershwins are greedy!  it just makes our work more difficult and more
expensive -- academics are not the wealthiest people in the world!

anyway, nigc i know, but something interesting anyway...

-kate  :o)

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darius my brother snag (love that one jill :), be proud!  stand tall and
crank up the music!  and if you need to revert a bit to reclaim some
neanderthal-ness, you can always write in the sand :)

just a bit o' silliness.  it happens. ::shrug::
randy (who has a thing for lesbian guitarists...a&e, me, joan
jett...::sigh::)
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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 14:56:43 -0400
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hey everyone,

   i'm a little slow at this, but i just realized that a&e we're in this
band.  (duh, i know).  but i was just wondering why they are doing this
side project as well?  any info on this?

thanks,
roger

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wow, hard to believe

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salvation army spurns s.f. money

.c the associated press

san francisco (ap) - the salvation army says it will no longer take
city
money and will cut back on some programs because of san francisco's
domestic partners law.

the organization said the year-old ordinance conflicts with its
christian
beliefs on the importance of family.

under the ordinance, any business that holds city contracts and provides
spousal health insurance to married couples must do the same for the
gay or
unmarried partners of its employees.

''we simply cannot agree to be in compliance,'' salvation army lt. col.
richard love said wednesday.

the charity is one of the largest nonprofit social service
organizations in
san francisco.

the salvation army, with an $18 million annual budget for services in
san
francisco, holds $3.5 million in city contracts, love said. the
organization
said it will scale back programs for senior citizens and the homeless.

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on mon, 8 jun 1998, kathleen mulhern wrote:

> academics (including myself) are against this, as it means that we won't be
> able to publish research as easy.  for instance (although the copyright
> fight doesn't include this), when i want to publish my book on
> michelangelo, i can use his original writings, as it's now public domain.
> but if the copyright law extended back about 500 years, i would have to
> gain permission from the buonarotti estate and and pay for the right to use
> his name and his writings.  so us greedy academics think people like the
> gershwins are greedy!  it just makes our work more difficult and more
> expensive -- academics are not the wealthiest people in the world!

   very interesting.  i'm very unfamiliar with the copyright laws
besides some of the general stuff related to music.  just out of
curiosity, are there any exceptions, or can we be looking forward to
mickey mouse porno videos in 2006?

   darius

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in a message dated 98-06-07 21:40:56 edt, you write:

<< whats cmj mean, so i know what i'm talking about when i go to tower.? >>

and is cmj only available at tower?

peace,

pam

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 12:43:58 -0700
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would any kind soul out there who's going to newport and musikfest be
willing to give my mom and i a ride up to bethlehem? we'll be traveling
light so we won't take up too much space, and of course we'll pitch in
for gas $ or whatever.
and i'd like to ask one last time (because i know someone out there can
help me), who would be willing to make a copy of don't eat out of dented
cans for me?
thanks much folks.
-sam (who loves to work at the zoo)

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hi all!
just wanted to share some thoughts on the letterman appearance.  i was
all psyched up for the show, but i was a little let down.
someone said:
> emmylou harris--pretty good for an old chick :d jk...
actually, i would have liked it without her playing at all. i felt like
her tempo and style just didn't work with the song the way the other
performers' did. plus, she messed up a couple words... ouch.

> luscious jackson-where was jill???  and why where there no good
> closeups of the drummmer?
i think that jill is no longer in the band. check the luscious jackson
website (i don't have the url handy right now) for more info.

anyway, i have a copy of the whole show if anyone still needs a copy.
have a great day all!

peace,
amy

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nighthawk wrote:

>    very interesting.  i'm very unfamiliar with the copyright laws
> besides some of the general stuff related to music.  just out of
> curiosity, are there any exceptions, or can we be looking forward to
> mickey mouse porno videos in 2006?

disney characters are the most expensive copyrights in the world.  and yes,
unless the gershwins are able to push through their request for an extension of
copyright, mickey mouse will be public domain, and disney will lose millions.
there are no exceptions to copyright laws as far as this is concerned.  that's
another issue -- once something becomes public domain, it can be used for
anything.  people can put lyrics to "rhapsody in blue," and mickey mouse can be
used in porno videos -- all legally.  but, as i mentioned before, historians such
as myself do not want to see the copyrights extended because then we'll have to
work the night shift at mcdonalds to be able to buy the rights to use some
research.  waaaaaah!

did you know that the song "happy birthday to you" is still under copyright, to
expire in 2004?  anytime "happy birthday" is sung in a movie, the radio or on tv,
permission must be sought first and hundreds of thousands of dollars must be paid
to the estate of the sisters who wrote the song beack in 1929!

-kate  :o)

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at 3:10 pm -0400 6/8/98, roger zender wrote:
>wow, hard to believe
>
>''we simply cannot agree to be in compliance,'' salvation army lt. col.
>richard love said wednesday.

maybe he should change his surname...to something more appropriate


marilyn

"free your mind and your ass will follow" (funkadelic)

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on mon, 8 jun 1998, m. macvey wrote:

> >''we simply cannot agree to be in compliance,'' salvation army lt. col.
> >richard love said wednesday.
>
> maybe he should change his surname...to something more appropriate

   makes you wonder...it's kinda scary when a civilian organization is
more opposed to change and progress than the real military!!  at least the
armed forces have raised some good points...

   darius

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casey and i couldve swore we saw the last band member of lucious jackson
(jill?) over by paul during the performance playing the keyboards, and
then i really thought she walked over when they were finished...was it my
imagination??

also, whomever has a copy of dont eat out if dented cans, can you email
me?? id love a copy very very much!! thanks!!!!

                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
                                   jeanette
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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 15:45:51 -0500
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>on mon, 8 jun 1998, m. macvey wrote:
>
>> >''we simply cannot agree to be in compliance,'' salvation army lt. col.
>> >richard love said wednesday.
>>
>
>[dan perkins]  what always amazes me about "christian" organizations that
>oppose the inclusion of spousal benefits for unmarried and/or same sex
>partners is that what is basically being offered are health care benefits.
>
>so, the way i read this is that richard love disagrees with the "homosexual
>life style", so not only does he want to deny health care benefits to people
>because he disagrees with their life style, but he has chosen to let less
>privileged folks suffer because he disagrees with the city policy to give
>health care benefits to same sex couples. the question that always comes to
>my mind is, would jesus have said "i don't like the way you live your life,
>so i am going to deny you health care"? i don't think so.
>
>peace,
>
>dan perkins
>austin, texas

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 16:47:28 edt
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hey all--

my buddy wrote a fab letter to the salvation army in san fran.  i'd be happy
to fwd it to all interested parties.  just let me know via private email...

peace,
lisa j.
who's trying to not be bitter that lion king beat out ragtime for best musical
:(

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 15:56:21 -0500
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><< whats cmj mean, so i know what i'm talking about when i go to tower.? >>
>
>and is cmj only available at tower?
>
>peace,
>
>pam

fei (for everybody's information):  here in beautiful amarillo, texas, our
barnes & noble and both locations of hasting's (kind of a border's/tower
thingy) carry cmj, but everybody still has the june issue with garbage on
the cover.

so i can only hope and wait.

on a related note, for you r.e.m. fans, there is a magazine called "oxford
american" which apparently comes with a compilation cd featuring a brand
new r.e.m. song called "why not smile".  finding that and the july cmj has
been a quest for me.  no luck yet.

j u s t i n

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 17:32:36 edt
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hi, if anyone has these lyrics, please let me know.  i think i heard them sing
it at the last concert i went to this spring......but i am not sure.  i know
about 6 months ago someone sent out lyrics to one of amy's new songs.  is this
the one or is this one of emily's?  also, if this is emily's which song was it
of amy's?  i remember the lyrics being sad and about broken love.

thanks a bunch!
amanda

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 14:54:13 -0700
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hey everyone.

i just thought i'd mention that the magazine cmj actually says on the
cover(in much bigger type), "new music".  maybe that's why some of you
can't find it.  the "cmj" part is above the "new music" title.  i've seen
the mag in a number of different places, so keep looking, it'll be near
you soon if not already.

wendell

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 16:41:53 pdt
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hey kind friends,

ok, i've been back to my local tower and came away with a bunch of
postcards.  i intend on going back tomorrow.  so here's the deal.  i'm
willing to provid postcards to those who want them (until my supplies
run out).  limit:  4 per person--i want everyone to have a shot at these
(unless you have a sys remix cd you want to trade and then we can cut a
deal...yeah like that would ever happen).  the catch:  i'm not willing
to incur any expense in this.  you'll need to send me an envelop with
return postage that is big enough to fit postcards.  the reason being
that i've burned on this list before (in fact i don't even know why i'm
making this offer available, but maybe i'm just such a nice
snag...thanks jill).  :)  so that's the deal.  send e-mails if
interested and i'll give you the address.  i'll keep going back to tower
until they run out and i'm asked to leave.  please, no requests from
people who already have postcards or who have easy access to a tower
location.

also, while at tower, they did confirm the boxed set release for
6/30/98.  they did also tell me there was a release shcedule for "late
july".  i asked if this was the ep, but they didn't know.  in the cmj
though they say that it will be "available" but don't mention that it's
a "lilith-only" deal.

bought cmj today.  god!!!!!!  i love the new remix!  but then again,
i've always been a fan of remixes.  i had to look through several
because 1 magazine had the cd stolen out of it and 1 magazine had the cd
*and* the amy inteview stolen out of it.

after my lilith post the other day (thanks for the flames), i decided to
call on tickets and the new york city jones beach shows are almost sold
out.

i also got tickets today for the fleadh here at randall's island in nyc.
i'd be interested in hearing from anyone else who will be at that show.
just let me know.

ok, that's enough out of me for now.

cheers,
l'sly


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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 20:04:36 edt
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in a message dated 98-06-08 10:10:44 edt, pegasus@crl.com writes:

<< i am not making excuses for any parties involved in the rdr bootleg
problem, but i wanted to address this inaccuracy.
  >>

then i stand corrected.  :::bows to miz amy p of the amylicious pics that used
to be on my website but aren't anymore:::  <grin>

y'all heard the lady, folks!  she knows what's what.  :)

~~tigger (need i say more?  oh, and miz jillyc???  yes dear, i *have* gotten
weirder.  isn't it fun????)

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 20:17:23 edt
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i just have one thing to type about rick the amazing bootmaster.....
<<<clap, clap, clap>>>

i know i sure appreciate the awesome boots you've done for me! :)

leslie

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hey all-
i have a huge favor to ask you guys.  i am searching for two tickets to the
fleadh festival in new york this sunday with ig.  if anyone has any extra
tickets i would be oh so grateful!!!  or if anyone knows how i could get some
(i heard they were sold out, so i figured i'd ask you guys first) then i'd
love info on how to get some.  i'm majorly bummed because i missed the appel
farm festival, and i need my ig fix before the summer so i don't go insane :)
thanks a lot!!!
~liz

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 17:35:37 pdt
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joan wrote:
>btw, whoever was mad because the camera focused in emmylou harris
during
>letterman - shame on you!  emmylou harris was the most seasoned
performer
>on that stage,  and i am sure amy and emily felt in awe of sharing  the
>same stage with her.

shame on me?!  i do not like emmylou harris, and i'm allowed to hold
that opinion, and i'm allowed to air that opinion too.  her vibrato is
too wobbly-gobbly (think old church ladies), her voice too weak (breath
support is a nice thing), and her stage presence too mannequin-like for
my personal liking (she's so stiff and emotionless at times).  just
because she's venerable and just because amy and emily are in awe of her
does not mean *i* have to be.  (and this is my opinion, so no flamage
will be tolerated on this one).
i respect your decision to like her, now how about respecting my choice
not to?  :)

not really angry as i sound,
jill

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 17:40:18 pdt
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kate said, re: emmylou's camera time,
>i would never begrudge a
>living legend their moment in the spotlight!

thus begs the question:  exactly what comprises a "living legend"?
simply age is not enough (think of all those sucky professors that are
tenured just because they've been hangin' around since the age of howdy
doody... doesn't mean they're good.)

not as harsh on emmylou as i seem, just trying to spark discussion,
jill again

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could someone please post the second curve article...i already have the first,
but i could never get it...thanx!

pax, celeste:)

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 17:53:04 -0700
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sorry to bother everyone but i was wondering if anyone had the address for
the tori mailing address?? thanks!!!

and i also wanted to thank everyone who has ever offered anything to the
list...you guys are great!!

                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
                                   jeanette
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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 20:38:48 -0400
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whoa...who sent out lyrics to new songs (amy or emily)??  if you still
have them can you send them on to me?  i wasn't on the list 6 months ago!!
thanks!

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 21:24:20 edt
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ok, since no one else has come out with the lyrics, here they are, as
transcribed by sherlyn quite a while ago.  (by the way, the lyrics to new
songs are usually sent out individually, not in bunches or anything, after a
specific concert or whatever.)
now - for my plea - a few months ago, i think, someone sent out the tentative
guitar chords along with the lyrics to "gone again" - could you please send
them to me?  i really want to play this, and it's gonna take me a while to
figure it out on my own.  thanks!!!!

from sherlyn:
-these lyrics are almost certainly wrong-
??? gone again ???
as performed on fri feb 27 1998 in sydney

think i'll bag a trip for two
pack it up to kakadu
honey it's not for the weather
or a lack of lovin' you

but i got all this in between
something i had not foreseen
and the deals i made don't matter
and i can't just let you leave

gone again, gone again
there ain't no way i'm gonna ?something about a heart?
i'm gone again

i walked in kings cross for awhile
gave a junkie girl a smile
she got traded in for danger
and the company of strangers
she said all her family
was at the welfare agency
so i gave her my last twenty
for a kiss and some poetry

gone again, i'm gone again
there ain't no way that i'm gonna ?something about a heart?
i'm gone again

if i don't make kakadu
i'll be at the rainbow room
i'll be courtin' some disaster
with the melbourne wrecking crew
honey all this is the same
every dog gonna have its day
if we take another ?dinner?
and we throw it all away

but it's gone again, it's gone again
there ain't no way that i'm gonna ?something about a heart?
i'm gone again

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 22:10:25 edt
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help!! which issue of cmj it is? i wasn't sure if it was the june ish or
what...

:) peace,
  rick
listening to: etta james/life, love, and the blues

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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 22:23:18 -0400
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okay, i know this is not *perfectly* kosher, because i'm sending
attachments to the list and all, but so many of you want to see new
song lyrics, i figured i'd  try to get away with this without having
to put on my asbestos suit :)   to be honest, i had saved all these messages
as text files & i don't know any other way to send them to you now.
so if you can't look at 'em, sorry...i can't tell you how to, and if you can,
that's great!  but please don't flame me because i'm only trying to
help, & frankly i'm not in the mood.  (plus, if you flame me i'll have no
choice but to sick "goofy tigger" on you, and i think she *is* in the mood.
she's a new woman & she'll kick your ass.  hehe, tigger, i'm only kiddin',
you know we all love you.)

anyway, do with this what you will:
>attachment converted: "c:\aeneas32\download\chiapasboundlyrics.txt"
>
>attachment converted:
"c:\aeneas32\download\lyricstoamy'snewsong(oneofthem)1.txt"
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>attachment converted:
"c:\aeneas32\download\musicmidtownandfayetuckercorrectedlyrics.txt"
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>attachment converted: "c:\aeneas32\download\regoneagain.txt"
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>attachment converted: "c:\aeneas32\download\rewordstowinthrop.txt"
>

leigh ann

"no, kitty!!!  this is my pot pie!!!"   - eric cartman

...and the crusty old man said "i'll do what i can"
and the rest of the rats played maracas.
                    ~phoebe, "crusty old man"

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 00:23:39 edt
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  i went back to tower (for the 3rd time) and snagged all the postcards they
still had.  24 of em to be exact.  they're up for grabs to whomever needs em.
there was still more at the tower books, so if u can't find any in the record
store, check there.  i'll get more if anyone wants.
   yesterday i found both sys promos in vinyl solutions. they only had 1 of
each  ( blue cover w/ 6 tracks & red w/5). i bought both and they're great!
my fave though, is the sys ep,  cuz it has blister in the sun on it.  amy does
that song better than the v.f.!  (no offense to them cuz i am a big fan of
them as well)
    e-me if u'd like a postcard, no charge for postage/ that's one of the
perks of my job.                 ~ jennifer       jenindgo@aol.com

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 01:05:22 -0400
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i will also help out with tower postcards to those who want them.  here is
the deal...i will help the first 5 people who e-mail me.  i will send you
two of the ig cards, once you send me a stamped envelope big enough to
hold 2 postcards (sorry, but i am a broke college student, jobless, and in
the bay area.  i reallycan't pay for postage...).  i will send the first
10 people who e-mail me my addy here.  then please send me a stamped and
addressed envelope.  okay?


i would help more people, but my local tower is almost out of the cards (i
checked back tonight).  so if you want 'em, just send me an e-mail asap.
i will get back to the first 5 people sometime tomorrow (late...after my
class).

:-) karen


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date:         mon, 8 jun 1998 23:02:44 pdt
reply-to:     sheri graham <pngwn@hotmail.com>
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hi everyone,

i've got two upper-reserved seating tix for sale for the 6/24 lf show at
shoreline, ca (mountain view - sf area)  please email me privately if
you're interested.

also, i'm trying to complete my ig cd collection & currently don't have
swamp ophelia or back on the bus y'all(? i think that's what it's
called).  i don't hear much talk of those cd's (or songs from...) on the
list.  i know in general, all ig songs are cool :) but i'm curious what
people's thoughts are on those two cd's.

thanks much!

sheri g
pngwn@hotmail.com

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 01:53:18 -0400
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i had to work the day ig was on letterman, so i naturally set my vcr to tape
it.   and it started taping at the right time, but, since i had the last
ellen episode and some other imporant things on the tape, (which i didn't
think was a problem), my tape ran out the commercial before they played, so
i missed the whole thing.  could someone please do a trade with me?  i have
a couple boots to trade.  or whatever anyone's thinking.  thanks so much in
advance.
                                                   -kate

                                                   grnpeace@fullnet.com

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scriptures and dictate my offerings- i found my god in myself,
around myself- in every moment and piece of matter.
everything is animate."   a. ray

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reply-to:     adia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=16848019

if you live somewhere where there's no chance of stumbling across this,
then i would recommend trying to get one from ebay..a new sys remix
auction starts about once a day..the one above has no bids as of yet.
although the seller has obviously been watching prices skyrocket so he
starts the bidding at $8!!

as more and more of these things show up (which they are!) demand
lessens..at the moment i've had the high bid on one for 3 days and there
are other ones that have stopped at less (darnit!)
so if you really do want to get your hands on this i would suggest using
ebay..i've had no bad experiences yet, aside from the insane urge to
check all indigo girls auctions hourly, and an apparent addiction to
bidding *l*

**hugs**

lamia

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when what came before you is so very tragic
lorraine, sweet lorraine..."
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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 03:55:12 -0400
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sheri wrote:

<<i've got two upper-reserved seating tix for sale for the
lf shoreline, ca show>>
i am very interested in purchasing the tix, and you are
paying for my round trip airfare, right?  so, we gots a
deal?  please lemme know a.s.a.p., i'd like to start
packin'.....  oh, and thanks for your generosity...

<<what are people's thoughts on swamp ophelia & back on the
bus y'all>>
of the two, i like swamp much better and i'd have to say the
reason is cause my bestest is a fugitive...   i wish i could
offer you profound insights about the merits of both cd's,
but it's sooo late and i'm  very close to being completely
brain dead...

oh have mercy, in a few short hours my houseguests will
arise and expect to be fed and my cats don't know how to
cook!  neither do i, but as usual, i'll have to pick up the
slack... no rest for the weary..

well sheri, i hope my two cents have helped and
enlightened...  i look forward to meeting you in california.
did you know i grew up in ca?  yeah, really...  small world,
huh?

peace + love,
forever a flower child
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does any kind friend have a copy of gone again they would be willing to make
me a copy? if so pleeeeeeease email me..thanks!


mj

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06:20 pm et 06/06/98

anti-gay protests fizzle at walt disney world


            by brad liston
            orlando, fla. (reuters) - operation rescue, a militant
anti-abortion, anti-homosexual group that promised to disrupt
walt disney world during a gay days celebration saturday, left
orlando little noticed by the 120,000 gay and lesbian tourists
in town.
            during a week of protests at abortion clinics, bookstores
and disney's magic kingdom, the dallas-based fundamentalist
group never drew more than 200 protesters.
            the numbers were a mere fraction of the 1,400 who showed up
in dayton, ohio, for protests in 1997 and the 2,000 to 5,000
operation rescue activists who have laid siege to u.s. abortion
clinics in the past.
            in orlando no church congregations joined forces with them,
said rev. philip benham, operation rescue's national director.
            bill shanks, an operation rescue member from new orleans who
tried to pass out literature inside the disney park, said the 12
infiltrators sent into disney were under strict orders not to be
arrested. in previous protests, activists were taken into
custody en masse.
            ''we've lost our lawyers ... and we don't have bail money,''
shanks said.
            thirteen protesters were arrested at various venues since
the rally began last sunday and were held on bail ranging from
$1,500 to $2,500.
            security was beefed up for saturday and no disturbances were
reported, bill warran, a spokesman for disney, said.
        the city of orlando had won a highly restrictive court order
against operation rescue even before its members arrived.
           many gay and lesbian tourists in orlando seemed oblivious to
the group's protests.
            ''i'm so sorry they couldn't make it, but it's ok. i didn't
need rescuing anyway,'' one said.
         ^reuters@

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hey everyone,

just wanted to let y'all know that i am back on the list!  i am able to
access my e-mail from berkeley (not as much as i could at home, but i
still have access).  talk to y'all later!

:-) karen

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date:         fri, 5 jun 1998 17:27:19 +0100
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why aren't ig well known over here in the uk ?
they are never played on the radio, not covered in the music press apart
from when they release a new album and more importantly why don't they
tour over here, they tour australia but not the uk, seems strange to me!

they have a potentially huge market in the uk which appears to be
largely untapped.

anyone got any ideas?

michelle

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first of all, i must say this : if there were more people like sulli and
less people like david ellison(the girls tour manager, for those who
don't know), this world would be a much better place.
sulli has so much to do and yet still manages to be sweet and friendly.
sulli, i salute you.  devilspawn dave, on the other hand - i really
dislike unnecessarily rude people.  for a full explanation, e-mail me.
now on to appel farm - okay, so i flew to philadelphia for the express
purpose of working the show and seeing the girls.  it would have been
worth it if i had paid 10 times more.  i was 2nd stage stage crew and so
got a full access pass and got to see some awesome people play (karen
savoca, iris dement...) so yes, i got to sit inside the fence (don't hate
me, i paid my dues) and got to see a + e from the closest possible point.
i wish they had played longer, but the entire concert was running late and
they had airplane reservations so they ran out of there and to the airport
after the show was over.  of course, the one chance i have for a meet and
greet, it doesn't happen.  :(  concert surprises : let it be me, gone
again - i think i may be confused, but this is the australian song, right?
it's a new amy song, the one she wrote while in australia, kinda country
sounding.  amy sure likes that mandolin.  ummm...i don't have the setlist
right now, but no shame on you, no ghost, they started with it's alright.
they played love's recovery, which made me happy :)  all in all, a very
good show.  i don't like amy's new haircut.  emily was very smiley, and
amy was intense (as usual) but less smiley than i've seen her.  oh, funny
moment : apparently some people had a sign that said "can we trade
shirts?"  and amy read it and said, "can..we...trade...shirts.  um,
thanks, but i don't think hawaiian is really my style.  it looks good on
you, though..." and then she half turned away and grimaced as if to say,
"yikes".  it was adorable.  it was just them, no jerry or sara (but dave
on harmonica during chickenman).  i did get my guitar signed by both of
them - yay!  it's sacred now.  i'm afraid to play it.  and i got lots of
pictures, which will soon be up on my web page.  if you've read this far,
you may get a reward.  a friend and i were standing around backstage after
the show forever, waiting for some of the other stage people to finish up
so we could get a ride.  i had talked to sulli earlier and as she was
finishing up, she turned to me and said, "here, want these?" and gave me a
stack of setlists.  now granted, these are not the setlists used by amy
and emily (i have amy's, heh heh heh) but they are the ones used by the
crew, i think.  so i have about 4 of them.  i'll check.  if you want one,
e-mail me, and the first 4 to respond can have them.  okay, i think that's
all!  i'm so so happy i got to see the girls before i leave for europe -
it's been since november and i was dying.  thanks for reading!
                                 stephanie

stephanie lynne merhar
university of virginia
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i found this great site on the internet that describes people's
personalities based on their names.  for the most part, i have found it
to be right on!  tonight i looked up our girls' names, and this is what
i found:

your first name of amy has made you a friendly, good-natured person. as
you are naturally talkative, you find it easy to meet and make friends
with many people. this name inclines you to be very sympathetic and
generous toward others when they are in difficult or unfortunate
circumstances. you can be very firm, positive, and independent in your
own ideas and in reaching your own decisions, yet when it comes to
taking action or following things through to completion, you often need
encouragement. you respond quickly to kind words or any appreciation
shown you. there are artistic, creative abilities in this name that you
could express through music or singing, or, in a more practical way,
through sewing or interior decorating. you enjoy freedom from monotony
and are stimulated by unexpected opportunities for meeting people,
entertaining, or pursuing activities of a carefree nature. in your work,
you find it difficult to be neat and orderly. you rarely plan things
ahead of time, or follow a routine. emotion and feeling, the desire to
be carefree, friendly, and happy, are the driving forces in your being,
rather than shrewdness, ambition, and material success. you must guard
against uncontrolled speech; when provoked you can be very sarcastic and
outspoken. this name can also cause nervous tension to centre in the
head, in either headaches, earaches, or a difficulty in sight or
hearing.

the influence of emily makes you positive, self-assertive, and
independent. you can be very impulsive and forceful when
opposed, and act without due forethought and discretion. hence you have
many bitter experiences and generally rather
unsettled conditions in your life, with little progress and financial
accumulation. you cannot tolerate any domination by others, or
circumstances that restrict your freedom and independence. you are
inclined to make changes abruptly in your life as an escape
from such conditions. when annoyed or offended, you can be very candid
and sarcastic in your speech. many disruptions in
friendship and association have thus resulted. you often overlook, in
dealing with people, the little things that signify grace and
courtesy. verbal expression is difficult for you, and you can be rather
forthright in situations requiring delicacy, even though it is
not your intention to be. the intensity of your nature would cause you
to suffer in the senses of the head, as well as digestive
problems. you also would have a sensitivity in your solar plexus. the
extreme intensity of this name causes mental turmoil,
major stomach operations, and accidents of a serious nature.

i think they're right on about amy, but almost completely backwards with
emily!  fun reading, though.  you can find it at:
http://www.kabalarians.com/gkh/your.htm

melissa.

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 02:56:28 -0400
reply-to:     joe <fortunate1@mindspring.com>
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hey folks,

a few michelle items at discounted prices -

the package:
bird on fire white disc full promo album signed by michelle
grace promo cd single signed by michelle
promotional 8 x 10 photo signed by michelle
postage included  $50


separate items:
bird on fire $25 (signed) ($5 off)
grace promo cd single $15 (signed)
original relentless 1987 8 song cassette (sealed) $25 (was $35!)
relentless cd $20 vinyl $20 ($5 off)
tear sheet for redemption dream 7" - signed by michelle $50 (1
available)
swinging  christmas at the attic - signed promo album cover poster $20
(2 available)
live building fires over atlanta - $25 (1 available)
album network tune-up w/ my green thumb & grace - sealed $15 (1
available)

write if you have any questions - new address -
fortunate1@mindspring.com
peace,
joe

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i am curious, what is the"don't eat out of dented cans" ? and where is
there a website that lists all the boots for indigo girls, i hear purple
parrot, color me grey, etc. but i get them all confused as to when they
were recorded, and what is what, etc.

thanks for the info.

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 08:01:24 -0400
reply-to:     grandma riot grrl <ohsusanna@sugar-river.net>
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muffins,

i seriously am not invested in hoarding precious info from y'all, ahem.

i found the cmj... with tricky on the cover and the cd inside, at barnes
and frikkin noble bookstore. i'd suggest checking there. they had a dozen
in manchester new hampshire, so if you're free today, why not take a little
drive? :) (that was for baigl benefit, y'all in anchorage). and for those
of you not familiar with the chain, there's no frikkin in the name.
'
if you're waiting for your riotgrrl/queercore mix, i'm sorry i am a bit
behind. the man is keeping me runnin...and, um, i also got a little
distracted.

shaken not stirred,
sus
reveling in the delicious irony of calling the lilith cd's a "box set"

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wow...this is kewl :)  i *for some bizarre reason* thought they wouldn't
have my name...audra, in my opinion, is still not as popular as other
names...but they did and a lot of it was right *heh*
thanks melissa!!

--audra

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*     *     *     *     *                                           |
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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 13:59:38 +0100
reply-to:     matt nicholls <mattn@fujitsu.co.uk>
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michelle deeprose <mad@assistsystems.co.uk> wrote...

> why aren't ig well known over here in the uk ?
> they are never played on the radio, not covered in the music press apart
> from when they release a new album and more importantly why don't they
> tour over here, they tour australia but not the uk, seems strange to me!
>
> they have a potentially huge market in the uk which appears to be
> largely untapped.
>
> anyone got any ideas?
>
> michelle

oh, now please don't get me started on this one again....

....oh no....too late.... ;-)

[warning - this is long...]

why aren't the girls well known in the uk ?  ok, take a look at the uk music
industry.  now, putting aside for the moment the fact that there is little
good taste in the uk music biz (personal opinion), the problem is that what
gets *played* on bbc radio 1 and radio 2 is controlled by a small number of
producers at the bbc.  if a band/singer/whatever is going to do well in the
uk, they've got to get airplay on radio 1 (or radio 2 in the case of those
that appeal to the older audience) - that's where the listeners are.  ok, so
virgin is making some headway, but it's still only at about 4% nationally,
whereas radio 1 has something like 20%+ of all listeners.  and if you then
cut it down to "younger" listeners (ages 15-35), radio 1 is miles ahead.
so...in order for the girls to make it big in the uk, they've got to get
played on radio 1.
is this going to happen ?  hahahahahahahahahaha.  radio 1 have already said
that ig do not fit in with their "listener demographic", and sony music have
given up trying to plug ig to radio 1.  this is why the girls haven't toured
the uk (or europe) since 1994.  sony music decided not to bother with a full
promotion of "shaming of the sun" in europe on the grounds that they've tried
several times in the past, and failed.  they tried with the album "4.5",
which was specially released for the uk market, and the single of "closer to
fine" at the same time, but they failed.
ok, so when the girls do tour the uk they can fill shepherds bush empire
(capacity 2000) for 2 consecutive nights, but most of the audience are
americans working/studying in london.  outside of london they generally only
manage to fill venues of 500-600 (although they do seem to be a bit more
popular in scotland for some reason).
of course it is complete rubbish to say that the girls don't fit in with the
radio 1 listener demographic, because radio 1 is aimed at the under-30 age
group, and that's where most of the girls' fans are in the us market - they
get played in heavy rotation on most "modern rock" stations, and get good
play on college radio.  so there goes that argument, but try explaining that
to the producers at radio 1 !
the girls do better in germany and holland actually, but even then it's just
not economical to tour over here if you're going to get ignored on such a
scale.  in the uk, the only radio station that will play the girls regularly
is bbc glr (london-only), which is not aimed at young londoners like virgin
and capital fm.  they will get some play on virgin, but only if sony promote
a new album to the station, which they didn't do with sots as far as i know.

right, so that's my first point.  the second one is that the uk music scene
is different from the us.  the us is more geared towards "country" music, and
because of this the girls (and i'm not suggesting for a moment that they're
"country" !) have a "radio-friendly" sound.  in the us, jewel, paula cole,
shawn colvin, sarah mcclachlan, etc.... do quite well....whereas over here,
not so.  the uk music scene is more european than american, and is geared for
three things that seem to be in favour:
1) dance groups with catchy songs (spice girls, 911, all saints, boyzone...)
2) boys with guitars (oasis, clapton, blur...)
3) "new" music imported from belgium & the netherlands (this is where all
   new music like hip-hop, trance, house, etc... originated from...it spreads
   out across europe, flys to california, and then hops across to the east
   coast of the us, and spreads west from there)
think....how many "girls with guitars" have made it big in the uk ?  ummmm.
(except for elastica, who've disappeared since their first album in 1995)
the uk music scene is male dominated and male oriented.  the us scene is more
even, in fact *perhaps* even biased the other way.  looking at a list of the
top albums of the 90's (by sales), globally there are 7 female artists in the
top 10, but if you just take the uk figures, there is only 1 - the spice
girls (oh, plus the eurythmics, so that makes it one and a half, i suppose).
ok, so we "import" the big us female artists, like whitney houston, madonna
and janet jackson, but these artists have global appeal, and do well in asia
too, so it's really a case of the marketing machine steam-rolling along.
the record companies have their "top artists", who they realise have a large
potential to sell well globally, but ig are not in this position with sony
music (or even just with epic), so they don't get the same sort of treatment.
really, for the masses, it's a case of "you'll listen to what we tell you to
listen to, and you'll like it too", and for the most part the record
companies get it right.  there isn't an infinite supply of money for buying
records, and only so many artists can make it "big", so someone has to
choose.  to a certain extent the record buyer chooses, but only from the
choice offered by the record companies.  if the record company can't get them
airplay for whatever reasons (see above), no one will hear them, and they're
sell well.  end of story.

<gets down off soapbox>

gee....did i write all of that ?  phew.

discuss.

mattress
:-)

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 07:42:53 -0400
reply-to:     tony & leigh ann <junebug@aeneas.net>
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sorry y'all- i tried to send those to the list again, but the
message never posted.  anyway, if anyone wants them, e me privately
with the subject line "lyrics" & i'll get them all to you asap.

leigh ann
"no, kitty!!!  this is my pot pie!!!"   - eric cartman

...and the crusty old man said "i'll do what i can"
and the rest of the rats played maracas.
                    ~phoebe, "crusty old man"

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 09:15:48 -0400
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on mon, 8 jun 1998, jill certo wrote:

> thus begs the question:  exactly what comprises a "living legend"?
> simply age is not enough (think of all those sucky professors that are
> tenured just because they've been hangin' around since the age of howdy
> doody... doesn't mean they're good.)

   i'd have to agree.  i mean, i know emmylou's been around forever, but
has she actually done anything interesting?  her performance at lilith
fair seemed quite uninspired and the mix was horrible.  (her deep voice
backing up lisa loeb on "falling in love" was really nice, though)
   when i think "living legend", the two people who come to mind are les
paul (83 today, and still playing in nyc!!!) and billy joel (anybody want
to dispute the complete and utter coolness of "pianoman"?)
   oh well...everybody has their own opinions, i suppose...that's what
makes this list interesting.

   darius

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date:         wed, 10 jun 1998 00:00:37 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

i'm back, and i think i'm just about caught up.  does anybody
have any administrative stuff they need helping out with?

let me know...
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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    it's all about faith, so don't give up on me,
    it's all about trust..."            - abra moore

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reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

this is a little old (about a month), but i just found it on
the web and i think it's worthwhile.  it can be found on the
mining company web site at
http://altmusic.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa051198.htm.

-sherlyn

===
backstage with the indigo girls

dateline: 05/11/98

austin, tx - "it's been a week for politics," quipped amy ray,
half of the alternative-edged folk-rock duo indigo girls, soon
after taking the stage for the zapatista benefit concert at the
backyard on friday night. ray was making reference to several
incidents of the past week when three high schools cancelled
scheduled, free afternoon concerts by the indigo girls, who say
they are trying to support creative arts in public schools and
reach their younger fans with the daytime shows.

"we are saddened and angry to hear our show at irmo high school
has been cancelled," said ray in a statement issued through her
publicist. "it is a blatant case of homophobia." south carolina
public school officials clumsily blamed the incidents on the
girls use of the f-word in one of their songs. "we only cuss
once a night," announced ray on stage at the backyard. "but
we're gay the rest of the time," she added to roaring cheers
from the crowd.

the indigo girls actively support organizations supporting gun
control, youth pride, environmental concerns, and equal rights
for minorities and indigenous peoples. backstage at the
zapatista benefit, ray explains why the indigo girls always
seem to have a political agenda.

"they are not all separate issues," she insisted. "it's all
one issue." ray admires the zapatistas, a rebel indigenous
army in mexico fighting for a better standard of living against
the sometimes brutal military oppression imposed by the mexican
government. "zapatistas have great dignity and discipline," she
says. "there's really no other way to describe it. we support
this project so they won't have to endanger themselves."

at the same time, ray is concerned about the actions of the
u.s. government, which regularly sends aid to mexico. she
criticizes an abusive system which uses those funds against
government dissenters. "as a u.s. citizen," pronounced ray, "i
oppose the use of american tax dollars going to support the
oppression of these indigenous people."

the zapatista benefit concert drew a sold out crowd to the
backyard for stripped-down performances from a very pregnant
shawn colvin, rickie lee jones, the indigo girls, and steve
earle. the audience delighted in a special appearance from
edwin mccain, who met indigo girl emily saliers on a flight
from atlanta and agreed to participate in the event singing
"prayer to st. peter," an anonymous poem found in a world war
ii hospital. the indigo girls performed several politically
charged numbers including "scooter boys," off their most
recent album, shaming of the sun, and a new song speaking out
against the death row execution of karla faye tucker. the
evening ended with a group jam performance of leadbelly's
"good night irene."

supporting the ongoing struggle inherent to political
oppression, the indigo girls are dedicated to fighting against
intolerance, homogenization, and disenfranchisement of
minority groups. through the benefit concert, they hope to
raise awareness among their fans and the american people.


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   "it's all about hope, so don't lose sight now,
    it's all about faith, so don't give up on me,
    it's all about trust..."            - abra moore

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(i sent this message last night - it got bounced back - unless my computer was
just kidding me, in which case i'm sorry everyone's getting this again)

ok, since no one else has come out with the lyrics, here they are, as
transcribed by sherlyn quite a while ago.  (by the way, the lyrics to new
songs are usually sent out individually, not in bunches or anything, after a
specific concert or whatever.)
now - for my plea - a few months ago, i think, someone sent out the tentative
guitar chords along with the lyrics to "gone again" - could you please send
them to me?  i really want to play this, and it's gonna take me a while to
figure it out on my own.  thanks!!!!

from sherlyn:
-these lyrics are almost certainly wrong-
??? gone again ???
as performed on fri feb 27 1998 in sydney

think i'll bag a trip for two
pack it up to kakadu
honey it's not for the weather
or a lack of lovin' you

but i got all this in between
something i had not foreseen
and the deals i made don't matter
and i can't just let you leave

gone again, gone again
there ain't no way i'm gonna ?something about a heart?
i'm gone again

i walked in kings cross for awhile
gave a junkie girl a smile
she got traded in for danger
and the company of strangers
she said all her family
was at the welfare agency
so i gave her my last twenty  --> (my note: now it's "she swindled my last
20")
for a kiss and some poetry

gone again, i'm gone again
there ain't no way that i'm gonna ?something about a heart?
i'm gone again

if i don't make kakadu
i'll be at the rainbow room
i'll be courtin' some disaster
with the melbourne wrecking crew
honey all this is the same
every dog gonna have its day
if we take another ?dinner?
and we throw it all away

but it's gone again, it's gone again
there ain't no way that i'm gonna ?something about a heart?
i'm gone again

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 09:10:37 -0500
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alright, so you want to know about swamp ophelia and back on the bus
y'all. i love them both. i like the live version of prince of darkness on
botby'all because i love the part where the crowd carries it and i lovwe
how ig change little things when they sing things live. also, this cd has
sentimnetal value for me because it was given to me by someone very
important, so perhaps i am partial. plus, this version of all along the
watchtower should not be missed. however, if you have the uptown lounge
video, i personally might start with so so you can have all those songs,
because the songs on botby'all are basically covered with eponymous and
n*i*s--but i am a sucker for live music. can you see that i just couldn't
stand being without all of my ig discs? sometimes you're in the mood for
one thing, and sometimes another, so you gotta have 'em all, just in case.
of course, on the other hand, i have give so as a gift many a time. many,
many a time. i don't even want to think about how many times i have bought
that cd. but anyway, so is a wonderful disk (i went to my first concert
during this tour, so there you go...more sentimental value, hell they all
have sentimental value, it's ig!), and i couldn't be without a version of
reunion and fugitive amongst other things.
so, i guess my point is, you are getting them both, so that is good, but
if you have to get one first, *i personally* would go with swampophelia.
it was the first in my ig collection after the dubbed tapes my cousin
gave me, and it was soon followed by a flood of sf, ig, and rop...so the
ig didn't lose any money off that dubbing, just gained a loving fan. wow,
i've talked too much. sorry.

k-bye!
kristi
"do or do not, there is no try"
              --yoda

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i need these (if they exist).  i've only heard this song once and i'd love to
be able to play it (well attempt to play it)

respond privately please so as not to disturb the balance.

b

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on mon, 8 jun 1998, randy rodriguez wrote:

> darius my brother snag (love that one jill :), be proud!  stand tall and
> crank up the music!  and if you need to revert a bit to reclaim some
> neanderthal-ness, you can always write in the sand :)

   yeah, yeah...but you know how it goes---first you start writing in the
sand and one thing leads to another and then you start aching with freedom
and kissing the damned, even...

> just a bit o' silliness.  it happens. ::shrug::

   that's ok.  there need to be a few of us wackos to lighten up the list
occasionally.

> randy (who has a thing for lesbian guitarists...a&e, me, joan
> jett...::sigh::)

   i love lesbian guitarists as much as the next indigo girls fan.  of
course, it's even better if they're straight and just happened to have
"kissed a girl."  that way, there's always a chance...  ;)
   whatever happened to jill sobule after lava/atlantic (bastards) dropped
her, anyway?

   darius

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 15:56:24 +0500
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>why aren't ig well known over here in the uk ?
>they are never played on the radio, not covered in the music press apart
>from when they release a new album and more importantly why don't they
>tour over here, they tour australia but not the uk, seems strange to me!
>
>they have a potentially huge market in the uk which appears to be
>largely untapped.
>
>anyone got any ideas?
>
>michelle

because epic uk aren't interested in promoting them...... don't get me
started on this :)

ok...... i'm on my soapbox now.

i spoke to someone in the press office at epic once who asked me if ig were
signed to epic because she hadn't heard of them!!!! they should give me a
job :)

when the girls toured here in 1994 there was little advertising in the
music press.... if people don't know that a band is touring then how are
they supposed to see them.we only saw a few posters on the whole tour.

they gave out hand bills at the shows but they were already preaching to
the converted. these should have been distributed at record shops in the
weeks before the shows to drum up some support for ticket sales.

they don't get interviewed for the music press..... they have never been
featured in q, vox, select, mm or the nme.

radio 1 won't play them...... they don't fit in with the format.
unfortunately radio 1 rules the airwaves.

epic tried to promote them in 1995 when they played glastonbury......
"closer to fine" was played frequently on virgin radio but the single was
pulled before it even hit the shops and unfortunatley 4.5 didn't sell all
that well..... not surprising considering that most of the british public
haven't heard of them.

why tour here when you aren't going to get any support from your record
label...... it's an expensive business to lug all that gear across the
atlantic. the london shows are always packed full...... mainly americans
though....... they have to play smaller venues in the rest of the country.
emily once asked how many americans were in the audience...... there was a
large roar. they she asked how many english people were in the
audience...... there was a tiny squeak from a group in the front row. the
same thing happens at ani gigs...... mainly an american audience. i'm not
complaining that the audiences are american but it goes to show that the
brits don't have a clue who the girls are.

yes they did tour australia but the record company over there released the
watershed video and a cd single. we have had zip over here.

i feel slightly better now..... but only slightly. it makes me feel so
jealous when i hear that they are playing so many dates in the usa..... you
are fortunate ones.

a side note:

there is a sentence in this months q magazine in the tickets/tour section
about the girls. there is an arrow scale indicating whose tickets are
selling well and whose aren't. at the bottom end of the scale is cancelled.
it explains that they had two shows cancelled at high schools in south
carolina and tennesse because thay are lesbians who use profanity..... i'll
post the exact sentence if anyone is really interested.

i saw a copy of honor 1 in hmv in london recently. it was licenced to
"normal records" in bonn. so it did finally get a european release......
amy had said that they intended to release it over here. it was sealed but
it look the same as the usa version to me.

right, i have work to do..... take care all.
sharon


sharon a. jennings
cancer research campaign laboratories
univesity of nottingham
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nottingham
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hey y'all,

        i was up this morning (too early) at 8 am to take my honey to
work.  when i returned i plopped down in front of the t.v. to try to find
something to keep me awake.  well, after a while, as i was flippin' around
endlessly, i saw meridith brooks on regis and kathy lee (however, it was
just kathy lee and guest host louie anderson today).  after she sang,
during her interview, kathy was asking her about her lilith fair
experience.  one of the things she said was pretty much to the effect of
"i got a lot of tips, like from the indigo girls, about how to sleep
better on the bus..."

        also, my honey was reading the book "squeaky" (god, i hope that's the
title) by that bugliosi detective/lawyer guy who was all into prosecuting
manson and the others (you can tell *i* didn't read the book)... anyway,
at the very end of the book the author says how some people have written
songs about squeaky, and mentions amy's "ballad of squeaky fromme."  he
says a little something about it, which i didn't think was very accurate.
basically he seemed to be saying that amy thought squeaky was scary/messed
up in a bad/scary way. whereas i always took the song to be saying that,
yeah, squeaky did have a "mixed up mind, but you may not be so blind"
also, especially the "i think that i might understand" and "you are not
alone" lines make me think that this guy didn't really understand amy's
song very well. i think he was just trying to show what an impact
squeaky's "scariness" has had, having people write songs about their fear
of her.  he didn't seem to care to find out what the song might really be
saying, hearing only what he wanted to hear, and then saying that that
was what the song was about.

the last very random ig sighting i have to report is that this christian
record club that my honey belongs to (sound and spirit) sent with a
recent catalogue an insert listing their very on sale items. cds 3.99
tapes 2.99 they were all by "mainstream" musicians, with the line like i"f
you like our regular stuff, you'll probably also like this." i found it
very interesting that sots was one of these albums.  especially since the
whole cancellation due to "obscene language," yet the album is being sold
by a *christian* record club!  they don't seem to have a problem with it.
go figure.

well, that's all from me for now.

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -amy ray

-my life is more than a vision -emily saliers

-i am a problem child/ i've been wild all my days/ all my anger and my
rage/ my senses said it would lead me astray/ i said go, go, go -a.r.

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 09:33:22 -0400
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hey everyone.  i was wondering if anyone knew who the opening act was for
the indigo girls in rochester.  i've looked everywhere and can't find
where it says.  they must have an opener.  helpppppppp!  any info will be
appreciated! thanks!
-jen

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 07:53:09 -0700
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subject:      re: hot diggity!  more emmylou!
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jill certo wrote:

> thus begs the question:  exactly what comprises a "living legend"?
> simply age is not enough (think of all those sucky professors that are
> tenured just because they've been hangin' around since the age of howdy
> doody... doesn't mean they're good.)

bah!  that's a good question, darlin'!  i don't like emmylou either -- for
the same reasons you don't like her, btw, but i know that she's considered
a living legend, so there you go.  maybe the fact that she's a trail blazer
of sorts, for women in music?  along with bonnie raitt and tammy wynett and
all of those kids?  i dunno.  good question, though!

re: professors:  good analogy!  i'm getting more and more sour on the whole
tenure issue, so i know where you're coming from!

-kate  :o)

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does anyone know how to go about getting her "silence" album? i would
love to get chords to any of her stuff...specifically 'can you see me"
any help would be great.....sparkie

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sharon jennings wrote:

> because epic uk aren't interested in promoting them...... don't get me
> started on this :)

wow -- that's a really frustrating story!  when i lived in italy last year i
was leaving just around the time that ig were going to play two dates here in
seattle, then go on to other cities in the nw.  i was so disapointed but
thought (hope against hope) that maybe i'd hear some ig in italy.  nope, need i
say.  they could play joan osborn on the radio stations there ( whom i hate
with a passion -- sorry joan fans) but no ig.  that's so incredibly lame.
especially since there would definately be a market for them over there.  i
don't understand the thinking of a record label who won't promote one of their
biggest artists elsewhere in the world.  has anyone asked epic about this --
errr -- "strategy?"

actually, it doesn't surprise me.  epic's and their parent company sony's web
sites suck so incredibly bad i can't believe it.  so it doesn't surprise me
that their uk marketing sucks too -- you can judge a book by its cover, i
guess!

-kate  :o)

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hey there everyone...i have a question...and i don't even know if anyone
can help me out...but...there's this song that i hear occassionally...it's
not recent and it's not played that often at all...it's titled
"suddenly"...or something like that...i can't place it...and i love
it...it's just one of those things that i can never figure out.  anyone
have any clues?  oh yeah...and it's sung by a girl...which narrows it
down, i'm sure.  thanks!
-jen

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arg!  nevermind!  i figured it out!  yay!  it just popped into my head!
her name is soraya...does anyone remember her?  sorry for the random
e-mail everyone!  :)
-jen

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um...i didn't notice this when i was listening to either song, but as i read
the words to gone again, i noticed a similarity to the new mongrels' guy
lombardo, which features amy so prominently.
gone again:
i walked in kings cross for a while
gave a junkie girl a smile...
so i gave her my last twenty for a kiss and some poetry

guy lombardo:
they're turning off the marquis lights at the pantages
she swears to god she hasn't been this high in ages
i gave her something i wrote...

just thought i'd point that out.
also, there was a brief blurb in the toronto gay paper xtra! with a picture
of amy and the caption "bad girls":
a us music group has been the subject of parental censure and has had three
of its five performances on a tour of high schools this spring cancelled by
school administrators.
guess who: marilyn manson? lil kim?
actually,it was crunchy, leftie, acoustic guitar-based, lesbian duo, the
indigo girls. according to a story in the new york times,"officials at the
high school in irmo, sc were so serious about the cancellation that when
students protested their decision, five of them were suspended for eight
days.
"it didn't stop the students from protesting however: they have filed a
lawsuit seeking damages from theschool superintendent and principal."
school administrators say they've cancelled the group because of its
offensive lyrics and parent complains. but indigo girls's amy ray (pictured
(bad picture))says she's called the principals of these schools and promised
not toplay any songs with profanity and the administrators have refused to
back down.
"a minority composed of homophobic, narrow minded parents and weak kneed
principals and school boards have successfully enforced a policy of
hate,"ray said at press conference.


anyway, thats it in all its glory.

sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 11:31:18 -0400
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allo!

for all of you fans in the montreal area, you can find cmj at chapter's
on ste-catherine street.  i bought mine yesterday and there was about
10 copies left.

isabelle :)

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okay, tell me what you think...

i was driving around with a friend (hi arin!) recently, listening,
amazingly enough, to ig.  i had a thought:

wouldn't it be cool, and kind of unheard of, for ig to remake, in the
studio, their self-titled release?

now, i know this will never happen.  but think how cool it would be to hear
the present-day a+e re-interpreting those songs.  i know they've been done
live, like on 1200 curfews and botby.

but think of how different a+e are now, the natural product of time
passing.  em's voice, for example...so breathy and round then, so clear and
ethereal now.  i wonder how "indigo girls" would be different if they went
into the studio and remade it?

i think "blood and fire" would be a highlight.  also, think of what jerry
marotta (and others) have brought to ig as far as rhythm and song texture.
it would be cool to hear how jerry's off-beat, unorthodox percussion would
work its way into their songs.

anyway, please don't say "they're never going to do that, because..."  duh.
this is just a big ol' what-if.

also, does anyone know of another instance when a group has re-made or
re-interpreted an entire album?

20 days 'til lilith in nm...

j u s t i n

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 11:54:35 -0400
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there seems to be some confusion out there.
just wanted to let everyone know that sara will not be the featured bass
player on the girl's lilith segment this year.  you will, however, be
treated to the amazing jerry marotta.

cheri

still wondering why the girls won't do lilith in atlanta(again)...........

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hey, everyone.  i have a chance to visit london the week after christmas
this year with a friend of mine, and i'm wondering if any of you uk'ers
(especially those in and around london) can help me out with information on
things to do and places to go while i'm there.  we'll be there for about a
week, and i'm looking especially for good places to buy music (preferably
used, but hey--i'll go anywhere!).  or for any other information you can
share about things we should do while we're there.

i realize (uh, *realise*) that i'm asking this question very far in advance,
but my friend and i are having such fun brainstorming and dreaming about the
trip that i thought i'd go ahead and get the ball rolling!

if it helps, my friend and i are both living in the atlanta area (although
i'm originally from nashville, tennessee), and could return the favor if any
of you ever come to the states.  thanks -- and i look forward to hearing
from you!

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 11:11:24 -0600
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gemini
(may 21-june 21)
  a good week for you as you will see many things and situations going
your way for a change. your increase in personal magnetism plays a big
role in this, as it makes people want to be near you and they also want
to please you, granting your (almost) every wish. don't let all the
attention go to your head because acting egotistical is the quickest way
to turn even the most devoted person off. listen to your dreams this
week as there may be some type of warning in them for you. be sure to
meditate on them so you will not miss your warning.


june 13 ('68)
melissa.marquis@fmr.com (melissa marquis)
"now i walk in beauty
beauty is before me
beauty is behind me
above and below me"


june 13
lschreihart@juno.com (lisa schreihart)

june 20
wowiejdm@aol.com


sorry this is late, guys, but your beloved birthday goddess has been
ill and away from email for the past 4 days.  to be added to the list,
just email me your name and a cute little quote thingy, and i'll be
happy to add you!! feel free to send additions or get well wishes to
joanne.cusick@cexp.com.

much love  (will someone please pass the tylenol?)

jo anne


"you can find yourself a lover,
you can make yourself a home
you can want no other ever
but it's never too late to be alone."

-del amitri

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on mon, 8 jun 1998, kathleen mulhern wrote:

> disney characters are the most expensive copyrights in the world.  and yes,
> unless the gershwins are able to push through their request for an extension of
> copyright, mickey mouse will be public domain, and disney will lose millions.
> there are no exceptions to copyright laws as far as this is concerned.  that's
> another issue -- once something becomes public domain, it can be used for
> anything.  people can put lyrics to "rhapsody in blue," and mickey mouse can be
> used in porno videos -- all legally.  but, as i mentioned before, historians such
> as myself do not want to see the copyrights extended because then we'll have to
> work the night shift at mcdonalds to be able to buy the rights to use some
> research.  waaaaaah!

   it may not be the gershwins that get the right pushed.  i bet around
the turn of the millenium that disney will start energizing its massive
law arm.  michael eisner has a lot of money to throw around.  there is
such a thing as "works done for hire", where the copyright actually is
owned by the person who commissioned it, not the artist.  (this is how
cartoon syndicates can continue producing comics in an artist's name long
after he has died, or retired in disgust...)
   i'm far from a lawyer, but i doubt it would take more than a little
tweak in wording to give the walt disney co. the right to renew their
copyright on the basis that the company still exists...

   darius

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well all, i am off to work at the ocoee river in tennessee now.  thanks to
everyone who helped me out with stuff, nydgo tigger, rickster, and all the
others...  take care everyone... oh and thank you emily and amy too!!!
if you need me, just email me at gi troop@aol.com

have a wonderful summer and may god bless you all.
love, erin (trooper)

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hey ya'll..i emailed joe and asked him about the sys remix for those of
ya'll who don't feel comfortable bidding! here's what he said:

hey :)

i will probably be getting some more of both sys's in..all the extras i
have had to date are spoken for. check back in a bit if you are having a
lot of trouble finding one.
hope all is well,
joe

*g* how bout if i just become the sys remix spokesperson? *l*...if this
isn't helping anyone i'll stop tellin' ya'll..if this is something
that's annoying everyone..

*hugs*

lamia

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i think the issue of emmylou harris is more a matter of respect than a
matter of musical tastes.  you don't have to like her, just like you don't
have to like bob dylan, woody guthrie or bill monroe, but people should at
least show some respect.  there are lengendary artists that personally i
don't like or think are very talented, but i respect them as artists and i
realize that maybe there is something to their music/style that i don't
recognize or understand.  i would never publicly characterize an artist
like that as old and decrepit or untalented or even washed-up - not only
because there may be people on this list that enjoy their music (whom i
would not want to alienate), but because it comes across as immature and
intolerant.   and so it goes with emmylou.  "got to learn to respect what
we don't understand."  everyone is entitled to their opinions, but i doubt
most people on this list appreciate it when they read insulting words about
artists they love.

peace and respect,

joan :-d

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hello all :)
  this is in reply to the person who wanted to know about swamp ophelia and
back on the bus y'all.   swamp ophelia was the first ig album i heard, and in
my opinion its just the best album of theirs.  i like all of their other ones,
but every single song on swamp ophelia is just so goddamn perfect. . .

back on the bus etc is pretty good too.. .. esp.  all along the watchtower and
both versions of 123

sorry this is disjointed and short cause i can't really think right now, im
late for school and i have to take finals today and im just going crazy. . .so
anyways thats just my opinion of two great albums, ok ill stop now this is not
making any sense

bye y'all
emily

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in a message dated 98-06-08 20:42:21 edt, you write:

<< shame on me?!  i do not like emmylou harris, and i'm allowed to hold
that opinion, and i'm allowed to air that opinion too.  her vibrato is
too wobbly-gobbly (think old church ladies), her voice too weak (breath
support is a nice thing), and her stage presence too mannequin-like for
my personal liking (she's so stiff and emotionless at times).  just
because she's venerable and just because amy and emily are in awe of her
does not mean *i* have to be.  (and this is my opinion, so no flamage
will be tolerated on this one).
i respect your decision to like her, now how about respecting my choice
not to?  :) >>

yep, like her - don't like her, everybody has a different opinion.  but surely
we can agree that her long, fabulous grey hair is beautiful and amazing!

pam (who just recently quit dying hers and has discovered a head of short,
beautiful grey hair <g>)

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reply-to:     randy rodriguez <randyr@dt.com>
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this is very interesting.  so far everybody that has said anything about
so has loved it.  this is my least favorite ig album...i dunno, it's
just not terribly memorable to me.  challenge time folks!  get me to
love so as much as i love rop and sots!  what about it makes it such a
great disc for you?  what do you think i may be missing?

til next,
randy
randy rodriguez
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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 15:31:41 -0400
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emily kropp wrote:
>
> hello all :)
>   this is in reply to the person who wanted to know about swamp ophelia and
> back on the bus y'all.   swamp ophelia was the first ig album i heard, and in
> my opinion its just the best album of theirs.  i like all of their other ones,
> but every single song on swamp ophelia is just so goddamn perfect. . .


hello!

swamp ophelia is definitely one of my best albums.  i suppose it's
because
it's the first one i heard too!  it's so perfect!  i feel that the
lyrics
are absolutely great on so.

that being said, i really couldn't choose a favorite album, but this one
has
a special place in my heart :)

anyone has a favorite album?

isabelle :)

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 15:41:44 -0400
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>>actually,it was crunchy, leftie, acoustic guitar-based, lesbian duo, the
indigo girls.<<

what is crunchy (i  know we talked about this on the list but i forgot).
what is leftie (is this because amy stands on our left in concert)

thanks ya'll - b

(still waiting patiently for some wonderful listee to send me guitar tabs for
gone again) :-)

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 15:56:51 -0400
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is is just me or when the drums come in (toward the end of touch me fall) and
the rythym picks up and the music starts back up - is there someone talking
underneath the music.....like right before amy sings "jump jump jump so high
watch me let you down...."

or have i been listening too hard again.

thanks - b

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 15:08:04 -0500
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okay, the first three times i listened to it just now and then made my
roommate here at work listen with me. neither of us heard anything. but
i think we were listening at the wrong spot. yes, at the very end prior
to the final build up mixed inthe strings come-on, there is a voice--amy
i believe. so, either we are all three listening too close , or it is
there sparkie....and roomy

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> from: becky a steele [smtp:beckyste@us.ibm.com]
> sent: tuesday, june 09, 1998 2:57 pm
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> subject:      touch me fall - i'm really losing it today
>
> is is just me or when the drums come in (toward the end of touch me
> fall) and
> the rythym picks up and the music starts back up - is there someone
> talking
> underneath the music.....like right before amy sings "jump jump jump
> so high
> watch me let you down...."
>
> or have i been listening too hard again.
>
> thanks - b
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does anyone have/know where i can find chords/tabs to problem child??
thanks!

**hugs*


lamia

"and it gets harder and harder lorraine, to believe in magic
when what came before you is so very tragic
lorraine, sweet lorraine..."
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so we agree ( or at least some of us do) that there is something spoken during
the last part of touch me fall....anyone care to take a stab as to what they
are saying.

thanks - b

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 13:33:31 pdt
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just wondering..who all from here is going to the san francisco lilith
fair?

*hugs*

lamia


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sounds like a challenge to me......i'm game.....sparkie

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>
>> so we agree ( or at least some of us do) that there is something spoken
>>during
>> the last part of touch me fall....anyone care to take a stab as to what
>>they
>> are saying.
>
>
>[dan perkins]  yes, they are saying "and, wait that's not all!! if you act
>now you get this fabulous set of ginsu steak knives! they even cut this
>aluminum can with ease!! hurry, operators are standing by!"
>
>
>or maybe not.
>
>peace,
>
>dan
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dan perkins wrote:

> >[dan perkins]  yes, they are saying "and, wait that's not all!! if you act
> >now you get this fabulous set of ginsu steak knives! they even cut this
> >aluminum can with ease!! hurry, operators are standing by!"

oh my gawd!  too funny!

i think she's saying, "i can't wait until kate learns how to play the guitar,
because then i'll ask her to come on tour with us.  we love kate.  kate rules.
kate rocks.  we wish we were just like kaaaaaaaate..."

i'm a tad self-absorbed today.  can you tell?  ;o)

-kate  :o)

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 14:36:10 -0700
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so, can anyone who went post an accurate set-list?    someone one the
newsgroup said they did touch me fall - did they?

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hey all~
     i have been a listee for quite some time now and i think i can tell you
guys something. i really need people's support right now. i just found out
that my dance teacher (who is like a sister to me we're so close) has cancer.
i am feeling very upset about this and i just needed to tell people. sorry i
wasted your time.
~alyssa

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thanks to everyone who replied, but all the setlists have been spoken for.
if i didn't answer you, you weren't one of the first four.  thanks!
                          stephanie

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well, they didn't play touch me fall, unfortunately, that's one of the
many songs i want to see them do live. i mine as well ask, did anyone out
there boot the show? please please tell me someone did. i'd do anything
for a copy. thanks :)
rb

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hey y'all--
i ran downtown today to find that july cmj magazine, and lucky me--the
first place i checked had it. :)
the sys remix--wow.  it's reminiscent of my freshman year when my roommate
played rage against the machine a lot.  rage and ig together--i like it. :)
my only gripe?  a and e's voices seemed too drowned out by tom's guitar,
but i guess that's just my bias--i like to hear their voices well.  ulali's
voices seemed much clearer though--they sounded great.  i don't know what
i'm trying to say, but the remix is pretty cool--if you're in a rockin'
mood. :)
anyway, the store i was in had 3 copies of the magazine and i grabbed them
all.  so, if anyone out there can't find it, i've got 2 extra copies--all
ya gotta do is reimburse me. :)
--leslie


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just wondering if it could be ordered off the net since every store i been
here in town never heard of it. mom is checking stores around work for me
tomorrow. if not i was hoping a place on the net would. also is the remix
one at the lillith fair going to be different then the one that appears in
this magazine. missy

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hi y'all!

woah, i guess everyone wants some postcards from tower.  but anyway, i am
out of them (for now).  if i got back toyou, don't worry.  if you e-mailed
me and i was unable to send you postcards, i may be able to get more (i
may stop back and see if they have anymore).  sorry i couldn't help
everyone.  but keep checkin' your local tower (if you have one) or other
establishments that give those nifty free postcards away.  i'll keep
looking also, so if i can get more, i'll offer them again!

:-) karen

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mike:

are you there?  i have the fleadh tix &  wondered if you still need your
two.

thanks.

m

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hey y'all!  ok, this is gonna be short (hopefully!)

    the awesome-ness of swampophelia. . . .where do i begin?   every single
track on that album is just supremely  perfect. . .   ig at their absolute
best.  when i first heard so i was just absolutely amazed that anybody could
make music that beautiful - and then i listened to the lyrics!  i mean, maybe
it's just me, but so just seems to fit in perfectly with the inside of my
head. . .ok that makes no sense i guess. . .hmm. . .
         there seems to be this law of album-making or something. . . i mean most
albums, ig's included, have some pretty good tracks,  a few really great ones,
and a couple songs that are ok, but you just aren't, like, craving them all
day long.  so completely defies that law. . .every single song gets stuck in
my head. . .
        to be more specific, how could you argue the awesome-ness of fugitive, least
complicated, reunion, power of2, the wood song, and mystery - all on the same
cd!!  i mean, it's just pure dead-up cool. ok i forgot to mention language or
the kiss, fare thee well, the list goes on . . .

ok, i guess i'm through rambling. . .
later,
emily :)

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reply-to:     sunny <sunnyig@yahoo.com>
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  i too would be totally psyched if someone happened to boot this
concert...and would *love* to get a copy if ya did!  *grin* please let
me know!

i got the cmj/sys remix this afternoon at borders bookstore if that
helps anyone...

take it easy -
sunny


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darius wrote:
>   i love lesbian guitarists as much as the next indigo girls fan.  of
>course, it's even better if they're straight and just happened to have
>"kissed a girl."  that way, there's always a chance...  ;)

i believe the proper term for that is not "lesbian" but rather
"heteroflexible."  ;)

always ready to supply new terminology,
jill

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swamp-o is one of my faves b/c of power of 2, mystery, and the wood song.
but i must say that my fave album by far is n*i*s.  i just looooove every
song on there.  but, i think for a first time ig listener i'd recommend so
(i don't know why, i just think that i would).

i'll be at sf lilith (on the 24th) tahnks to mollie who was nice enough to
get me a ticket earlier this year!  :-)  who else will be there?  does
anyone know who (besides ig of course) is performing?  i am getting
excited.  seeing the girls in the bay area is a real dream come true for
me!

:-) karen

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i speak for the trees for the trees have no
tounges." (dr. seuss)
"and me, i'm still tryin' to live half
a life on the road." (indigo girls es)
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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 16:40:39 pdt
reply-to:     jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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becky asked:
>what is crunchy (i  know we talked about this on the list but i
forgot).
>what is leftie (is this because amy stands on our left in concert)

crunchy:  birkenstock-wearing, environmental-loving, whale-saving,
tree-hugging, patchouli-smelling, organic-eating,
folk-festival-attending, aura-seeing, chakra-sensing,
clarissa-pinkola-estes-reading, ig-listening leftie with a propensity
towards not shaving.  etymology:  from the slang:  earthy-crunchy.
usage:  "ohmigosh, this girl who sits next to me in art... she is just
*so* crunchy, she thinks she can hear the trees crying."

leftie: (see above) left-winger.  syn.:  obie.        ant:  newt
gingrich.

hope this helps--
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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 19:40:16 edt
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hello to all in the land of indigo!

while looking for the cmj magazine at my local
indy record store i found the sys remix cd and
new ep w/sys on it.  they were $10 each,
which i thought was a little much, but i got them
anyway, cause it is amy and emily after all!
the sys remix rocks!  very cool, made me feel
like i was in college again, listening to some
head bangin' stuff.

anyway my question is:  what is on the cmj
sys remix and what does the cd look like?
is it the same or different than the sys remix cd?
i can't find a cmj magazine anywhere, and since
i spent $20 on these singles i want to know if it's
the same, or if it is worth it for me to search for
a cmj in the mall.  if someone could let me know
i would greatly appreciate it. thanks a lot.

take care and peace!

-deb

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 19:59:57 -0400
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i *do* know how this feels, but i think that the part that amy was steamed
about was the fact that a certain record store was cashing in on recordings
that she and emily had made as gifts for other people...gifts, not the
basis for someone else's profit.
   i don't think there's a problem buying the concert boots that are for
sale in many music stores.  i actually prefer that to the tapes i sometimes
trade for, because the sound is a bit better, and my cds tend to weather my
apartment better than cassettes...
   peace,
      sharoane
this is not an argument

>
> imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  someone somewhere said
> that and as a die hard ig fan, if i could get bootleg cd's of our girls,
> i'd be tickled pink, wether they were given to me or if i had to pay for
> them.  my appreciation of their talent is what makes me search....
>
>

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oh, and i *think* cmj stands for "college music journal"...
i used to get them from our radio station here at umf...
peace,
   sharoane

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here's the appel farm set list :
it's alright
three hits
least complicated
gone again
let it be me
scooter boys
get out the map
land of canaan
power of 2
shed your skin
love's recovery
karla faye tucker song
chickenman
galileo
----
kid fears
closer to fine

well, where karla faye and chickenman are, there was an ?, but i know they
played both of those and they were somewhere in there.  so the order may
be a little off.

and i'm a little confused about these sys remixes.  exactly how many are
there?  which ones are available at lilith (which i'm not going to)?  what
is on each one?  which is the one they're auctioning off?

                                          stephanie

stephanie lynne merhar
university of virginia
indigo@virginia.edu
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i finally got this worked out, so for those of you who still want it,
here it is.  some of these are not as new as others but you still may
not have heard them or have seen the lyrics, so i'm including them
all.  and i know someone already posted gone again, but it's in
here too.  (three cheers for redundancy!)

enjoy,

leigh ann

>>                               chiapas bound
>>                                by amy ray
>>
>> all the girls with anorexia are on the street tonight
>> and the boys in the band think they look just fine
>> but i don't really know why i drove my car down to congress avenue
>> hoping to find you turning on the light
>>
>> well you seem like a girl with the world on your side
>> and it's just a point of view
>> and you know how quickly that can change too
>> see i heard you were free or someone thinks you should be
>> and i know just how that feels
>> i thought maybe we could just talk for awhile
>
>{bridge}
>'cuz baby i got something to stand for
>i got somewhere to go
>i just need someone to stand with
>'cuz it ain't no good just bein' alone.
>
>> when you said that you'd go down to mexico
>> i think that i might go there too
>> but it's probably too late to find someone like you
>> yeah, it sounds really cool to be without a care in some southern town
>> but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound
>> yeah, it sounds really cool to be without a care in some southern town
>> but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound


>i had the most incredible luck today.  i was *so* jealous of the person who
>stumbled upon a "shades of indigo" cd for $9.00 a few days ago.  wondered
if i
>would ever be that lucky.  doubting it, because in atlanta, rare ig finds are
>rare.  everyone here knows a good thing when they see it <grin>, and they
tend
>to keep it to themselves.
>
>but today i just happened to find a gold mine.  i found "club r&r",
"shades of
>indigo" and "reverse 1 live".   all brand new.  each $28.00.   when i first
>saw them, i actually stopped for a minute and looked around to see if someone
>was pulling a joke on me or something.  i'm sure the employees all thought i
>was a bit insane when i started jumping up and down in the store <grin>
(well,
>not really, but i was jumping up and down inside)
>
>well, in a fit of indigo-happiness, i decided to write out the lyrics to one
>of amy's new songs.  this is the one that she did in orlando at the house of
>blues last saturday.  it sort of sounds like powderfinger when it first
>starts, but only when it starts.   it's "a little country song"  and it's
>beautiful!!!!!
>
>**********************
>well i guess that i was lonely
>that's why i called you on the phone
>cause in a moment of forgiveness
>i didn't want to be alone
>
>and i guess that i was willing
>more than i ever was before
>cause in a moment of forgiveness
>i come knocking at your door
>
>baby i woke up crying last night
>when i realized that you were gone
>cause it's been two long years without you
>and tell me now
>when are you going to come home
>
>and i guess that i was hoping
>that you'd finally understand
>and in a moment of fogiveness
>you reach out and take my hand
>
>musical interlude
>
>baby i woke up crying last night
>just to realize that you were gone
>it's been two long years without you
>and tell me now
>when are you going to come home
>
>and i guess that i'm hoping
>that you finally understand
>and in a moment of forgiveness
>you reach out and take my hand
>
>that's it =)!

karla faye tucker song
>on the night they killed faye tucker
>i was gambling away my last dime
>and i pulled down the lever
>and i sent up a prayer
>that my love would not be denied
>that my love would not be denied
>
>now roll out the head of faye tucker
>and never you mind what they say
>well you may be reborn
>but it just got you scorned
>that's what you'll take to your grave
>that's what you'll take to your grave
>
>well mister wants you to live now
>and the governor wants you to fry
>and whatever it was
>that you thought might occur
>they got something else on their mind
>well they got something else on their mind
>
>well if you live they're gonna make you a campaigner if you die they're
gonna make you a grave yeah, either way it goes down
>that your life's not your own
>you know that's why killing don't pay
>i said that's why killing don't pay
>no it don't
>
>i said what did you learn faye tucker
>hey, what will you take from my world
>well if mercy could prove us
>nothing would move us
>to rise above just being cruel
>to rise above just being cruel
>-these lyrics are almost certainly wrong- ??? gone again ???
>as performed on fri feb 27 1998 in sydney
>
>think i'll bag a trip for two
>pack it up to kakadu
>honey it's not for the weather
>or a lack of lovin' you
>
>but i got all this in between
>something i had not foreseen
>and the deals i made don't matter
>and i can't just let you leave
>
>gone again, gone again
>there ain't no way i'm gonna ?something about a heart?
>i'm gone again
>
>i walked in kings cross for awhile
>gave a junkie girl a smile
>she got traded in for danger
>and the company of strangers
>she said all her family
>was at the welfare agency
>so i gave her my last twenty
>for a kiss and some poetry
>
>gone again, i'm gone again
>there ain't no way that i'm gonna ?something about a heart?
>i'm gone again
>
>if i don't make kakadu
>i'll be at the rainbow room
>i'll be courtin' some disaster
>with the melbourne wrecking crew
>honey all this is the same
>every dog gonna have its day
>if we take another ?dinner?
>and we throw it all away
>
>but it's gone again, it's gone again
>there ain't no way that i'm gonna ?something about a heart?
>i'm gone again
>
>subject:      re: words to winthrop???
>to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
>
>here are the winthrop words i decipher from the warfield show, (there is
one word that i can't make out.)
>
>emily prefaced it by saying "this song is sad as hell, sorry y'all".
>
>when we get back to winthrop
>a few miles from the airport
>on a plastic chair on a deck where my friends live i watch the taking off
airplanes
>watch the ocean waves crashing
>i know with all of this movement, something's got to give
>
>down at the high tide
>it's passed down through the family
>the fisherman gather to complain about the catch
>
>we talk about time
>then we talk about tides
>the pull of the moon and the coffee deep (dark? night?) black i listen to
them
>and i listen to you
>for someone there is something never coming back.
>
>but for all that we've been through
>for all that we've promised
>your wayward direction seems insensible
>
>words fall out like breathless fish
>all flopping and scattered
>and hearts picked over deemed dispensible
>
>down at the high tide
>we're there for our last meal
>the broken loaves are still enough for all
>
>we talk about time,
>then we talk about tides
>the pull of the moon and the coffee deep ? black and i listen to them
>and i listen to you
>for someone there is someone never coming back
>
>we talk about time,
>we talk about tides
>the pull of the moon and the deep ? coffee black and i hear the dim roar
>of the last flight out
>and for someone there is someone never coming back.
>
>
>
>
>>hey kind friends,
>>
>>has anyone been able to figure out all the words to "winthrop"? i was able
>>to decipher(is that the right word?) most of them from my bumbershoot boot
>>(thanks tigger!), but not all. if anyone could help, much thanks.
>>

"no, kitty!!!  this is my pot pie!!!"   - eric cartman

...and the crusty old man said "i'll do what i can"
and the rest of the rats played maracas.
                    ~phoebe, "crusty old man"

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okay lumpkins, i'm writing to publcily apologize to every single one of you
768 people on this list in anchorage, ak. i was totally kidding about that
barnes and frikkin noble crack, i'm soooo sorry! i love alaska, it's the
only state i haven't been too...so so sorry

xxo,
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my offer for tower postcards is closed unless you heard from me
otherwise.  i received requests from other 80 people and i will be able
to process those only.  all in all, i had about 200 postcards and those
will be gone shortly.

sorry if you didn't get any, but i did what i could.

btw, sherlyn (oh great list manager/goddess....) could you please write
me!

cheers,
l'sly

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hey y'all,

i received this recently and thought many of you would be interested in
reading it also.  i apologize for the "nigc," but i think you all will
understand.  (btw, i received this on may 30th)

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -amy ray

-my life is more than a vision -emily saliers

-i am a problem child/ i've been wild all my days/ all my anger and my
rage/ my senses said it would lead me astray/ i said go, go, go -a.r.

************************************************
leonard peltier suffering from excruciating pain

tonight we received an alarming call from leonard . i have known leonard
since his capture from lompoc when the fbi and prison administration sent
robert standing deer to kill him. i then met up with him in marion federal
prison where he was tortured. i know people don't talk much about the hell
leonard has been enduring for the past 22 years. leonard never whispered a
breath of pain and just endured as a good warrior.

but, tonight he broke and expressed the pain and the suffering he has been
living with because of the malicious medical treatment he received in
springfield federal medical center in missouri. leonard cannot chew or move
his jaw. he cannot eat a decent meal. the pain makes him dizzy. he said,
that it fells like there is something in his jaw and that the pain is
killing him. "i'm in pain, i'm in pain, i'm in pain" he kept saying. "man,
i ain't joking brother, this is really killing me." i sat and looked at
steve robideau, gina and ronica and we all looked stunned. this is very
serious folks, leonard needs to get out for proper medical treatment.

leonard needs to see a qualified physician from outside of the prison
system. while there are plenty of good doctors, (the mayo clinic has agreed
to provide their services) willing to see leonard, the federal bureau of
prisons are not allowing him to see any of them even though it is his legal
right to do so. now what we need is a qualified lawyer who practices in
kansas to file a lawsuit against leavenworth and ensure that leonard is
able to see an outside doctor. what we do not want is for leonard to be
transferred to springfield where they have already came very close to
killing him. we are also concerned with the amount of radiation that
leonard was receiving in the jaw area while he was there. it has been noted
by an independent physician that type of radiation is not normally used for
correcting leonard's problem. if people write to the prison concerning
leonard's health, be very clear in asking that leonard be allowed to go to
the mayo clinic and to express their serious concerns with him being sent
to springfield.

bobby/lpdc

******************************************
>from the lpdc web site:
international office of the leonard peltier defense committee

may 21, 1998

strengthening the fight for clemency:
in 1993 we filed for executive clemency. normally six to eight months elapse
before a response from the president is given. it has now been nearly five
years and we have heard nothing. numerous resolutions from the european
parliament, the belgium parliament, the canadian parliament, tribal
councils, local governments, nobel peace prize winners etc. in support of
leonard have been passed, millions of people from here and abroad have
written letters to clinton and other governmental officials, and yet we have
heard nothing. we must put pressure on government officials in every
possible way to continue the fight for clemency. this can be done through
continued lobbying as well as grass root political action.
clemency:

us pardon attorney
roger c adams
500 first street n.w. suite 400
ref:leonard peltier #89637-132
washington d.c. 20530
(202) 616-6070

president bill clinton
1600 pennsylvania ave. nw
washington dc 20500
202-456-1111
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

senate hearing investigations:
we are currently pushing for senate hearings that would investigate and
expose the illegal role of the fbi in both the peltier case and the pine
ridge murders. these hearings are crucial to ensure that clemency for
peltier is granted. other groups, such as the black panthers, who have
political prisoners as a result of the fbi's cointelpro are also seeking
similar hearings. the fight to release all political prisoners will be
strengthened as the fbi's illegal interference in political struggles is
revealed.

senate hearings:

us senator orin hatch, chairman judicial committee
sd-224 1st and c sts., ne
washington dc 20510

us senator ben nighthorse campbell
chairman, select committee on indian affairs
sh-838 1st and c sts., ne
washingtion dc 20510
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addition to legal team:
criminal lawyer, tony serra has agreed to join leonard's legal team. tony
serra represented and won the cases of both native american bear lincoln and
hooty croy. serra was able to obtain a not guilty sentence for croy on an
appeal after he had been sentenced to death. he also won a not guilty
verdict for bear lincoln whose case was quite similar to leonard's.
needless to say, we are happy to have him join us as he will be an asset to
the fight to free leonard peltier.

may 4th parole hearing:
according to leonard peltier, the may 4th parole hearing was a complete
set-up in which the decision had been made before he and his attorneys had
even arrived. none of his attorneys were allowed to speak at the hearing and
leonard said they made some amazing statements such as, "we spoke with one
of the agent's wives and she wants you to die in here. you will not receive
another parole hearing until 2008 then we'll take it from there."  "the
government can't prove who is responsible for the agents' deaths, but
someone has to pay." representing him was carl nadler, jim leonard, ramsey
clark, and mamie rupnicke of the prairie band potawatomi. leonard said that
it made no difference who was representing him, it was a set-up.

leonard has said that he has no faith in the system, neither should we. it
is up to us to get him out. the attorneys are filing for a rebuttal now but
we have not heard anything yet. when we do we will let you know. come show
your outrage at the june 27th demonstration at d.c.

leonard's current health status:
leonard needs to see a qualified physician from outside of the prison
system. while there are plenty of good doctors, (the mayo clinic has agreed
to provide their services) willing to see leonard, the federal bureau of
prisons are not allowing him to see any of them even though it is his legal
right to do so. now what we need is a qualified lawyer who practices in
kansas to file a lawsuit against leavenworth and ensure that leonard is able
to see an outside doctor. what we do not want is for leonard to be
transferred to springfield where they have already came very close to
killing him. we are also concerned with the amount of radiation that leonard
was receiving in the jaw area while he was there. it has been noted by an
independent physician that that type of radiation is not normally used for
correcting leonard's problem. if people write to the prison concerning
leonard's health, be very clear in asking that leonard be allowed to go to
the mayo clinic and to express their serious concerns with him being sent to
springfield.


upcoming event:

june 27th
although the anniversary of the pine ridge shoot out is on june 26th, we
decided to have the dc demonstration on the 27th in order to allow more
people to participate. (there will be a strategy meeting on june 26th in
dc). after the way leonard's may 4th parole hearing was handled, it is very
important that all make special effort to come to this event so that we can
show our outrage with the continued abuse and corruption of the injustice
system. leonard has no faith in the system and neither should we. the
government has again admitted that they do not know who shot the agents.
let's show leonard and the rest of the world that this fight is no where
near being over and that we will not go away.

the demonstration will be from 12pm-5pm at ellipse park in front of the
white house. lakota elder, david chief will be opening the event with a
ceremony and drumming. speakers include steve robideau of the lpdc, laura
serrano of saiic, a representative from the united american indians of new
england, lakota jean bordeaux, robert pictou branscombe, anna may aquash's
cousin, pam and ramona africa of the move organization, bobby castillo of
the lpdc, keith mc henry of food not bombs, and special guest, robbi
robertson, music and more.

you can make a camping reservation at green belt national park by calling
1800-365-2267. if you make a reservation, let us know so that we can figure
out about how many people will be there. food will be provided by food not
bombs.

___________________________

we are looking for a new t-shirt design. if your design is chosen you will
receive a lithograph, a t-shirt with your design on it, and a bumper
sticker. send us your ideas!!!

what you can do:
start or join a local support group in your community. support groups are
important elements in the struggle to free leonard. write letters and
encourage others to write letters to govt. officials. organize ways to
create more awareness around the case. show videos, distribute literature,
organize demonstrations and benefits, etc. organize and plan to attend the
june 27th demo in dc. raise funds for chiapas and for lpdc. our supporters'
donations allow us to keep the office running. thank you for your support!
-lpdc

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money orders. he must buy his own phone cards and his communication with
the outside has proven to be life saving. he can also receive photos if
they are not polaroid.)

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consider making a donation to help free this innocent man. no amount is too
small. please send checks or money orders to lpdc, po box 583, lawrence, ks
66044. thank you!

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  alight!!  now i gotta go find that cd....thinking about it is making me
obsess over it!
    speaking of talking on songs, on hey kind friend, who is the man(woman??)
that says "..see ya later." at the end??  that has driven my girlfriend & i
nuts since the day the cd came out!  now i know this is gonna sound totally
stupid, but we seriously thought it was like jimmy stewart...till we realized
he had died.  bad huh? sorry guys!

~jennifer
i

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...the sf lilith show = natilie merchant/ ig/ sarah mclachlan/sheryl crow/
eryah badu/ k's choice/ billie meyers/ lhasa/ tara maclean/ autour de lucie/
noelle hampton/ and beth lisick ordeal


~jennifer

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 22:16:39 -0500
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to whomever said the girls were going to be in rochester:


ok, when , where, how much are tix to this event, and what is your
source of information, si vous plait....


merci-
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could someone please post the second curve article...i already have the
first,
but i could never get it...thanx!

pax, celeste:) >>

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hey kind friends,

i'm quite excited about this!!!!!  i've found a place that had a bunch
of the sys remixes here in new york city.  i bought out their entire
stock.  most of those are already promised.....however he thinks he can
get more (thanks david!!!!!).

as i get more of them in, i'll post to the list!! (god, i can only
envision the nightmare this is going to create for me).

also found two nice michelle malone cd promos and bought k's choice new
cd as a full length promo (for $3).  can't beat that!!!

promise i'll write more as i find out!

cheers,
l'sly


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in a message dated 98-06-09 20:26:44 edt, you write:

<< >well i guess that i was lonely
>that's why i called you on the phone
>cause in a moment of forgiveness
>i didn't want to be alone
>
>and i guess that i was willing
>more than i ever was before
>cause in a moment of forgiveness
>i come knocking at your door
>
>baby i woke up crying last night
>when i realized that you were gone
>cause it's been two long years without you
>and tell me now
>when are you going to come home
>
>and i guess that i was hoping
>that you'd finally understand
>and in a moment of fogiveness
>you reach out and take my hand
>
>musical interlude
>
>baby i woke up crying last night
>just to realize that you were gone
>it's been two long years without you
>and tell me now
>when are you going to come home
>
>and i guess that i'm hoping
>that you finally understand
> >>


wow...it's so sad...when i read it, it made me wanna cry...prolly the two long
years line, but the whole thing is pretty sad...boohoo:(

pax, celeste:)

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date:         tue, 9 jun 1998 23:50:03 edt
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with all this talk about copyright, i wanted to vent some of my frustrations
over these laws...
i am not aware of the entire circumstances, so some of this is hazy, but bear
with me...

i am a music major, i play the clarinet... an important part of every
musicians repertiore is orchestral music, so books kind of like compilations
are made up of all for example the major clarinet solos in important
orchestral pieces. these books are called orchestral exerpts books.  for the
clarinet, a very important series of these books, published by international
music, is being affected by a copyright law and something called the treaty of
ghat (sp?), which deals with the copyright laws for composers behind the iron
curtain and whatnot (here i am fuzzy).. what it comes down to, was that these
composers or whoever, was not making money, essentially these were illegal
copies, uncopyrighted because the composers were from behind the iron curtain.
so, internation may no longer publish these books.  i don't know for how many
years this nonsense will go on, but it is a serious problem for musicians.  it
is essential that you know you excerpts to get into any major orchestra!  now
we can't get the music!  now we must search through countless music stores to
see if they possibly have any left over... luckily my boyfriend was able to
find me one of the five books... my teacher promptly told me to get the second
book, that one is essential too.. i was like, right maybe that'll happen...
     just wanted to add my gripes about copyrights : )
--kate

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"back on the bus, y'all."$4.99
"1200 curfews", cassette edition: $14.95
"lilith fair", cd -- $17.99

as chain stores go, fred meyer's does some serious butt-kicking.

--ariel, who is now trying to charm her cd player into working, since
cleaning it didn't do anything. =p
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we don't know our families, we don't need our brothers
we're pushing the needle too far..."
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regarding one of the boys' (hail brave ones!) comments about wishing the
girlies would re-record their old stuff: i *believe* i heard this question
asked of emily on some bootleg interview i have someplace and both grrls
laughed and groaned and i *believe* em said "well, i wrote some songs back
then i'm not proud of today...some of those lyrics...complete doggerel".
well, i don't think she said "doggerel" (cough-history of us-cough, cough),
but you get the pitcher.  i think amy was intrigued but em was definitely a
little embarassed of her previous work (cough, cough, never stop, cough
cough).  which is actually a really neat song.  anyone ever wonder about the
line "you always like to be the one on top"?  and the male pronouns?  heh heh
heh, aren't ya glad your juvenalia isn't in constant bootleg rotation?  :)

hey, bethany, ya gonna organize a list chat?

and i couldn't resist jill('s comment):

> i believe the proper term for that [straights kissing grrls] is not
> "lesbian" but rather
> "heteroflexible."  ;)
finally a word for *us*, billy!!!  thank you and i love you deeply, jillian of
the moon. <snicker> i have a lot of rude comments about flexible but we won't
go there t'nite.

sam, lizzy, your boots are in process!

just your friendly neighbrohood fence straddler here.  kiss, kiss, luvvies.
h

ps.  veda hille at michigan.  my god, what if her and em and michelle and
amy...  no, perish the thought....  ohhhhh.....  i wish i could go.

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miss heather wrote:

>  (cough, cough, never stop, cough
>  cough).  which is actually a really neat song.  anyone ever wonder about the
>  line "you always like to be the one on top"?  and the male pronouns?  heh heh
>  heh, aren't ya glad your juvenalia isn't in constant bootleg rotation?  :)

yes yes yes... what is up with that song?  actually i really dig that song.  for
some reason, it's one of my early emily faves - actually it probably is my fave.
it's so catchy - i remember listening to it over and over and over and... and i've
always wondered about the male pronouns.  not that i really want to get into a big
discussion about it - hell i don't care i'm off the list today.  but i love that
song.  really i do.  i love jazzy emily - crazy game is far and away one of my top
5 or so... i can also see why emily wants to cower when she hears it.  "she's a
beguiling snake and she'll keep what she takes, but when she leaves you i'll be the
one coping..."

lizzy

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jennifer wrote:
> ...the sf lilith show = natilie merchant/ ig/ sarah mclachlan/sheryl crow/
>eryah badu/ k's choice/ billie meyers/ lhasa/ tara maclean/ autour de lucie/
>noelle hampton/ and beth lisick ordeal

sheryl crow's not in the lineup anymore though!  does anybody know who
they're replacing her with?  hey, i'd be happy if they'd just let the other
artists play longer...  the more ig, the happier i'll be! :)

who else is going?  are we gonna have a list meet?
leslie


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i'm outta here!!!

well, not really cause i've still got hours of packing, and its near
1am, and i've also got a paper that i have now gotton 2 extensions on
and i really need to do it, but for some reason it's turning into a
bigger and bigger and bigger obstical.

thank you to everyone who responded to my at note - i got a lot of
support - and some concerened listees - i'll be fine, don't worry!

also, i'm proud to announce that yesterday i got my first bumpersticker
orders.  ya-hoo!  anyone out there who's not sure whether they want one,
are debating, etc: think about seeing another car with the same sticker
- instant bonding!  they're cheap, unique, and i'm gonna be bummin' if i
don't get at least 200 orders... help out a listee?  even if you just
want one.

love this list - y'all are great.  see ya in september!

lizzy

ps tigger - never heard from you about the boots - did you get them?
what's the deal?

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i realize that we've already had a general list concensus not to discuss this
topic, so anyone who wishes to reply please do so in private so as not to
offend others on this list.  i do not want any flames for this either, because
this is a serious question and all have been forewarned...

i was wondering if anyone knows of any female artist, sort of like ani or
tori, or even the girls, who has written a song about abortion.  i know that
the second song (actually a spoken song) on ani difranco's not a pretty girl
disc makes brief reference to it, but i was wondering if anyone knew of a
whole song...

again, so as not to offend others, please email me privately, thanks
--kate

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to whoever posted the lyrics to that song...thank you thank you!

i have an awesome boot of that song, and it is one of my new faves....i
really hope it ends up on the next album.

gosh, i love that song!

:-) karen

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hello fine listees!

as i will be hitting the road to run the tower records booth at lilith
fair, i will no longer be able to make copies of the slam tape for people.


i was the august branch of the tree, but don't panic yet!  the most
fabulous and wonderful ms.  lisa d.  has kindly volunteered to fill in for
me!  so, if you want the tape, and you were an august baby, email her at
memememi@aol.com and she will take care of you!!!!

if we've already made arrangements, i will be mailing out your tapes this
saturday (that being my last non-mobile day!!!).

if any of you are at a lilith this summer and feel brave, come introduce
yerself!  i'll be at the tower booth no doubt!

see you all in september!

caroline

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get me to
> love so as much as i love rop and sots!  what about it makes it such a
> great disc for you?  what do you think i may be missing?

see now this is difficult because for me so is tied up with memories of a
beautiful summer in london, sitting in hyde park watching the sunset (i
know it's only the pollution that does it but i like it)... um i guess
it's language or the kiss that does it for me. emily's voice just so
perfectly balanced... and every line resonated with me. abandoning the
search for security, focusing on the beauty of the here and now.

well whatever. you're bound to get a hundred replies to this one :)

sharon

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the long dark night. this wee cold country.
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hi everyone,

matt nicholls <mattn@fujitsu.co.uk> wrote:

>the girls do better in germany and holland actually, but even then it's
>just not economical to tour over here if you're going to get ignored on
>such a scale.  in the uk, the only radio station that will play the girls
>regularly is bbc glr (london-only)

well in holland they aren't famous *at all*, except in the gay/lesbian scene.
and people who listen to folk music sometimes know the titleless album, but
that's about it!!! and about radio airplay: since 1992 i've heard ig only 3
times on the dutch radio: once ctf on a gay-friendly alternative station and lr
and eiiot on the national radio when sarah bettens (from k's choice) was
allowed to choose her favorite songs. i wish we had a radio station which plays
the girls' music regularly!!

sarah wrote in the k's choice fanclub magazine that she listens to ig a lot and
looks forward to play at lilith fair and see them again. and recently when i
saw k's choice's concert in amsterdam, she said once again how much she likes
their music. so sarah really does her best to promote ig!!

i wanted to ask if there is a kind soul on the list who would like to pick up a
copy of the sys remix for me??? if you want, i have a couple of singles by
melissa etheridge and kd lang to trade. or i could get for you the latest k's
choice single with a cover of "weak as i am" (live from amsterdam). anybody
interested??? please e-mail me privately then.

cheers,

florence.

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in addition to kate's gripe about copyrights, did you know that church choirs are
not allowed to make copies of music sheets if there are not enough for every choir
member?  talk about ridiculous, here we are singing god's praises and quick
someone trash the copies!  (after the service)  arrggghh

k

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can not believe it..
after a very bad day on the job i decided to check my local borders to
see if by chance they had the cmj (college music journal) new music
monthly.......to my shock and surprise they have it. not only do they
have it there are about 25 copies sitting there and looks like a bundle
underneath that has not even been opened yet... imagine...tulsa has it.
the tracks are pretty good. the ig remix is good. there is more
percussion and more electric. surprised me a bit,. i really liked it.
there were 25 in my house last night when i played , they loved it.

i used those 25 to help me decipher the words in tmf...we did not
succeed in toto. a bit is clearer now, still working on it....i think my
deaf neighbor hates me now....he felt the vibration most of the night...
and we don't live in apartments..

love and all things that leave wet spots
and by all means all things indigo...sparkie

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in the spirit of "hammer and a nail" (a refuge never
growns/from a chin in a hand/and a thoughtful
pose) i have offered to help karen (indigo head) out.

i will try to send 5 ig postcards only (the ones at
available at tower records) to anyone who
e-mails me with their address.  i may not be able to
accomodate everybody, but i will try!

i asked karen to send anyone she turns away to
me.

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> in addition to kate's gripe about copyrights, did you know that church choirs are
> not allowed to make copies of music sheets if there are not enough for every choir
> member?

oh yeah i know... i used to be in a choir and there was some old music we
just couldn't find copies of to buy, that we couldn't even photocopy...
wouldn't it be nice if copyright just applied to if you were making a
profit?

sharon

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subject:      rollingstone ?????

     could some one please tell me in wich rolling stone the amy article
     was?

     miriam (with the hat!)
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heteroflexible! lol!  i hereby nominate jilly to the post of official
list terminology master.  anybody who can come up with "snags" and
"heteroflexible" deserves public recognition.
randy rodriguez
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>sent:  tuesday, june 09, 1998 7:15 pm
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>subject:       male bonding: "kissed a girl"?
>
>darius wrote:
>>   i love lesbian guitarists as much as the next indigo girls fan.  of
>>course, it's even better if they're straight and just happened to have
>>"kissed a girl."  that way, there's always a chance...  ;)
>
>i believe the proper term for that is not "lesbian" but rather
>"heteroflexible."  ;)
>
>always ready to supply new terminology,
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>this is very interesting.  so far everybody that has said anything about
>so has loved it.  this is my least favorite ig album...i dunno, it's
>just not terribly memorable to me.  challenge time folks!  get me to
>love so as much as i love rop and sots!  what about it makes it such a
>great disc for you?  what do you think i may be missing?

well, apparently, when you listen to so, you program the cd to skip tracks
1, 3, 5, 7 and 8.  that is the only explanation i can possibly fathom as to
why someone would think so unmemorable.

:)

but seriously, i think any cd with mystery and wood song on it can stand on
its own.  but add in the intense beauty of fugitive, the wacky hoe-down fun
of reunion, and the oh-so-gorgeous language or the kiss (a sigh-inducing
song if ever one was writ), and you have a cd which shall forever spin.

i don't think you can convince someone a cd is great without convincing
them that the songs are great.  and these are some great songs.  with the
possible exception of fare the well and this train (revised), which i
normally don't listen to but, like all ig songs, i enjoy at least from time
to time.

and if all that doesn't convince you, then how about this: if you put the
cd in upside down and press play, you'll hear amy's recipe for scrumptious
"pound cake with fresh strawberries".

have fun,
j u s t i n

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perhaps it is not the need for use to convince you the cd is as
good/better than previous one. maybe it is the time that you listened to
it for the first time. are there memories,, events etc that were going
on at the same time in your life that are the factors influencing you in
your like/dislike of the cd????
way to thought provoking...sorry guys...in that head space
again....sparkie

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on wed, 10 jun 1998, randy rodriguez wrote:

> heteroflexible! lol!  i hereby nominate jilly to the post of official
> list terminology master.  anybody who can come up with "snags" and
> "heteroflexible" deserves public recognition.

   i'll be a sellout conformist and second that.

   darius

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> and if all that doesn't convince you, then how about this: if you put the
> cd in upside down and press play, you'll hear amy's recipe for scrumptious
> "pound cake with fresh strawberries".

or a mashed cd? is that true? i am so gullible, i want to run home and try
it.
actually i'm leaving work now anyway (it's 3.45) to go watch scotland beat
brazil to a pulp in the world cup :)

bye bye

sharon
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date:         wed, 10 jun 1998 09:49:16 -0500
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ya know ....someone said that what you actually get is the true meaning
of lesbian life according to amy....that's the real reason the school
officials in sc. cancelled...they were afraid some of the kids might be
behind the girls and therefore hear the songs backwards....hence
becoming gay........as if there are nothing worse could
happen.....sparkie

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i'm still lol at that one; hetrofexible.  i agree w/ randy

~jennifer

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hey kind friends,

this is my report on the new ep and single.

the red cover version is the actual shed your skin single ("includes tom
morello mix").  catalog #41107.  the track listing is:
sys (album version)
sys (live) from mn 8/20/97 lilith fair
sys (tom morello remix)
get out the map (live) from lilith fair at pa 8/13/97
shame on you (live) from ca show 1/29/98
this is solid.  it's a good flow for a single.

i got an e-mail from someone last night asking more questions about the
morello mix, so i thought i'd address that now.morello mix is incredible
(but i'm sure most of you have heard it).  i just needed to mention that
i love the new native american-inspired riffs.  heavy drums is a nice
touch.  however, i'm not thrilled that emily's "opera-esque" singing has
been removed.  there is almost *no* emily in the song now.  the guitar
and chord progression is reminiscent of ratm's "bombtrack" with a little
sprinkling of percussion.  i still just can't say how much i love the
new percussion on the track.  for those who don't like ulali...you might
not like it.  ulali backing vocals seem to raise above this song and
hang over....like cream rising in milk.
also, i thought it was cool that emily was wearing a rage against the
machine (ratm) t-shirt on the cover.

the blue cover is called simply "ep" not sys.  ask for it by name.
catalog # esk 41261.  track listing:
sys (tom morello remix)
get out the map (live) from lilith pa 8/13/97
shame on you (live) from ca show 1/29/98
everything in it's own time (live) from 99x's live show on 4/27/97
blister in the sun (live) from la jolla, ca 2/1/98
sys (live) from lilith in mn on 8/20/97
tom morello mix is the same.  however, everything in it's own time is an
incredible version.  i listened to it again on the subway this morning.
suddenly felt so all alone and alienated.  this is an absolutely
incredible version of eiiot!!!!!

now, let's talk commercial distribution for a minute.  i honestly can't
envision ig putting out both of these on the commercial market.  i
envision that that ep (blue cover) will be the lilith-only special
(mostly because those live songs come from lilith...most of 'em anyway).
however, there is too much work that went into the sys single (red
cover) to not make it commercially available.  i suspect that we will be
seeing the sys single available in stores before the end of summer.
however, that's not to say we shouldn't pick up what we can now, because
all of the one's i've seen thus far have all said:  "demonstration:  not
for sale".

that's my review for now.

cheers,
l'sly
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this was posted to the ani list rbr-fans...i haven't seen it on here yet.

andi


<<i got this from a mighty mighty bosstones-obscessed friend...

> zack de la rocha plans spitfire spoken word tour
>
> krist novoselic, exene cevenkova, amy ray expected to join
>
> fans wanting a more direct route to learning about their favorite
> artists will have just that opportunity
> when the spitfire tour comes to 15-20 major market college campuses in
> late summer and fall.
>
> co-conceived by rage against the machine's zack de la rocha, salt lake
> city promoter jason farrell,
> and a group of friends over a thanksgiving dinner, the spitfire tour
> is a spoken- word trek where
> musicians, actors, and artists will discuss topical issues of great
> importance to them. after the
> monologues, there will be a one-hour question- and- answer session
> during which the audience members
> will have a chance to speak directly with the participants.
>
> while the tour is still in the planning stages, artists who have been
> confirmed include current sweet 75
> (and former nirvana) member krist novoselic, who will serve as the
> moderator at each stop; mtv
> personality (and republican) kennedy; x's exene cervenkova; the indigo
> girls' amy ray; and mighty
> mighty bosstones frontman dicky barrett.
>
> also expected on the tour, but not yet confirmed, are the always
> outspoken jello biafra, *******ani difranco**********,
> public enemy's chuck d, director michael moore (roger & me, the big
> one), and actor woody
> harrelson with activist todd mccormick.
>
> a representative for san francisco- based promotion company on board
> entertainment, which is
> helping to put the excursion together, says they expect it to hit
> "politically active college campuses in
> major markets, like brown university or ucla... it will be interesting
> to see which colleges want us."
>
> in addition to the spoken word aspect, there will be video
> presentations, djs spinning, and booths. the
> on board entertainment spokesperson likened it to a "spoken- word
> lollapalooza." the tour is
> expected to kick off at the end of august and go through september,
> moving from the east coast to the
> west coast.>>

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wow.  i got a huge outpouring of so-ness, thanks y'all. :)  i'm not
denying that the individual songs on so are good, least complicated is
amazing, as is this train revised.  but overall, the disc doesn't
imprint itself....it's not as raw sounding as the others are.  it sounds
more engineered than any of the others as well.  there are no
associations with it either good or bad, so it's just the music itself.
i want to love it the way i love every other ig disc!
randy rodriguez
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hey everyone.

if anyone wants to subscribe to cmj, go to www.cmj.com

it would be very wise of you to subscribe.  great mag.

brian

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oh my god!!  if anyone finds out if this is coming to portland or seattle,
please please please let me know!  i would give a couple of limbs to see this
(even if ms. ray decides not to do it, i would love to see it)!!

thanks for the info., andi!  something to look forward to!

-kate  :o)

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i would love to findout if this was coming to oklahoma...not thinking
so...but dallas is close...anyone have any ideas as to the schedule?????
sparkie

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i have to second that (or third or fourth it whatever...)...

heteroflexible....lmao....

i'm going to incorporate that into my vocabulary!  :)

take it easy -
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ok -

at the risk of asking a completely naive question...well here i
go...where do you find these cd's???  the blue cover and the red cover
singles??  where?  how??  (i'm not talking about the cmj and the cd
that comes w that magazine...heehee - i got that one...but
but...there's more!)

i'd appreciate any kind sole's help!
thanks,
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i'm not going to be offering these other shows i have to the list
because they take too much of my time.  i spent way more time on
this offer than i was planning.

the shows i'm not offering are the fraze, dayton, iu and ig @ lilith
deer creek.  please don't ask for them.  even though they're really
high quality and would go great on a cdr i just don't have the time,
especially when i get boxes and boxes each with 5 cdrs saying "for
the 5 shows you're offering" and then not even including "thank you"
or a note or anything indicating this means anything more to them
than a simple mail-order service of some kind.

to those of you who've already sent me "thank you's" i'll be responding
individually to each of you and offering these shows.  i really ap-
preciate the effort you took by getting back to me thereby letting me
know that my time means something more to you than that which is expected
from another human being out there somewhere at the other end of a
mailing address.  it was my gift to each of you on this list and to
those who responded in kind you shall be rewarded. :)  thanks!

anyone else not on that list who sends me cdrs for those shows will
have their package sent back to them un-opened.

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got this from http://www.cmj.com

lilith preview
sarah mclachlan performed four songs at a free concert june 1 at new york
city's bryant park. the concert also featured elektra recording artist
rebekah and local acts antigone rising and eden white, both winners of the
levi's lilith fair acoustic talent search for new york. the event raised
$8,000 and several thousand pairs of jeans were donated to new york's west
end intergenerational residence. this summer's lilith fair kicks off june
19 in portland, oregon and runs through august 31.


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looks like ms. crow needs a break.  this was on the usa today music section.  b
(reprinted without permission).

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/lmd1.htm

sheryl crow bows out of lilith fair

                 this year's lilith fair hasn't even rolled out yet, and the
first casualty is
                 on the record books: an overworked sheryl crow has bowed out.
                 crow called her ''friend and founder of lilith fair sarah
mclachlan,''
                 according to a statement from crow's record label, to tell her
that she
                 needed a break. crow has been performing with the rolling
stones and
                 bob dylan as well as doing her own tour and recording for a new
                 album. she was scheduled to perform five dates with the lilith
fair this
                 month, including the kickoff june 20 in george, wash., two
stops in
                 california and concerts in arizona and new mexico. ''i have
been
                 working nonstop for two years,'' crow said in the statement.
''i need
                 some time at home to regroup.'' no word on whether another
artist will
                 replace crow.

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>wow.  i got a huge outpouring of so-ness, thanks y'all. :)  i'm not
>denying that the individual songs on so are good, least complicated is
>amazing, as is this train revised.  but overall, the disc doesn't
>imprint itself....it's not as raw sounding as the others are.  it sounds
>more engineered than any of the others as well.  there are no
>associations with it either good or bad, so it's just the music itself.
>i want to love it the way i love every other ig disc!

here are some more thoughts on swamp ophelia, reinforced as i was listening
to it today.

it is a time album.  by that, i mean it is associated in my mind with a
certain time of the year:  the end of the summer.

much of its association with late summer/early fall is personal with me,
and much of it is also universal and obvious.

i first listened to so when i was moving back to college at the beginning
of my junior year.  my roommate had a copy, and i was a casual ig fan, so i
popped it in and was hooked.

later that month, i had the serendipitous opportunity to see ig on the fall
so tour in the woodlands.

and look at the songs.

"least complicated"...about danny, and the fifth grade, and confusion, and
kids walking home from school.  very autumnal.

"language or the kiss"..."begin my studies with this paper and this
pencil"...it's back-to-school time.  "lying on our backs, looking at the
stars through the ceiling."  an activity made for late summer nights.

"reunion"...looking back on a class reunion, which possibly took place over
the summer.

"touch me fall"...imagery, as amy has said, about the decay that comes with
autumn.

"mystery"..."summer's beginning to give up her fight."

"dead man's hill"...full of mystery-like imagery such as barking dogs at
night, etc.

"fare the well"...totally about the end of summer, almost even "mystery,
part ii".

so isn't really a concept album as such, but that time of year, the end of
summer...such an elating and exciting and sometimes sad time...is a common
thread, and i think that "feel" runs right through the album.

thanks,

j u s t i n

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hey. sorry to waste space, but i am wondering who the people in the sf cd
insert are (specifically). i know this was discussed a few months ago, but
i missed it. please repond privately. thank you.
                                                christy :)

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                        virginia woolf

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in a message dated 98-06-10 15:22:43 edt, junebug@aeneas.net writes:

<< lilith preview
sarah mclachlan performed four songs at a free concert june 1 at new york
city's bryant park. the concert also featured elektra recording artist
rebekah >>

speaking of rebekah... can anyone tell me about her? i've heard a couple of
soundbites of her music & liked what i heard... anybody have the album? she's
playing at lilith down here & i'm not sure if i'm going yet, but...?

peace,
  rick
*full is not heavy as empty, not nearly, my love* -fa
page: http://members.aol.com/rbsayre/cheese.html
*hi, i'm nancy drew! you must be the hardy boys!*

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can the girls have her slot for the nm stop?!?!  twice as much ig :):):):):):)

peace
lisa j., who's still working through her bitterness about lion king

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hey list,
the first 2 people who email me get dibs on my 2 extra
copies of cmj magazine that i just picked up at the
bookstore.  they were $5 each, so i'd expect that in
return as well as an sase sufficient to get the mag returned
to you.  i'm not looking to make a profit here, but i'm
not gonna pay your postage either.

if i don't reply to you that means you weren't fast enough.

on your marks...get set....go!!!!!!!!!!!

leigh ann
"no, kitty!!!  this is my pot pie!!!"   - eric cartman

...and the crusty old man said "i'll do what i can"
and the rest of the rats played maracas.
                    ~phoebe, "crusty old man"

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i do have access to many copies at borders here in town, tulsa, so if
anyone really wants it email me privately and i will get you copies. it
doesn't appear to be a big seller here.go figure. heck, i just bought my
ticket for the july 1 lilith show in okcity and i was the first ticket
to be purchased here in tulsa....go figure....

love and all things that leave wet spots
and all things indigo....

sparkie

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my offer is now closed.  i had replies from 2 of you desperate
souls within about 3 minutes. ;)

leigh ann
"no, kitty!!!  this is my pot pie!!!"   - eric cartman

...and the crusty old man said "i'll do what i can"
and the rest of the rats played maracas.
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ok..i went to the tower and got some postcards..so the first 20 or so
people who reply get them....two maximum...also, because i am low on
money, ill need to be sent a stamp..sorry!!! ill just reuse the envelope
you send....

and..to anyone who can get an extra copy of cmj, let me know...because i
couldnt find any, and id really like them..thanks!!!!!!

                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
                                   jeanette
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                            i love in me
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that really does effect cds! i can't listen to some songs on ani
difranco's dilate, like "untouchable face"..cuz i always get this
horrible feeling...but it would just be too sad if you couldn't listen
to so cuz of that!!

*hugs*

lamia


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hi everyone,

is anyone going to the lilith iat the rose bowl in ca?  how is the seating
arranged?  i thought it was just general admission, but the ticketmaster
said they had reserved seats.  and where are ig playing in respect to the
arena's layout?

wendell

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thanks to everyone who sent the problem child chords/tabs! ***hugs***
ya'll are great!

lamia

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hey folks,

i just visited the online guitar archive (olga) site to look for some
lyrics/guitar chords and saw the the site closed down yesterday in response
to threatened action from the harry fox agency.  thank god i printed off a
bunch of songs last week!  anyway, apparently hfa has been trying to strong
arm the online archive for some time.  if you visit the olga site (which i
can't come up with the address for right now 'cause my browser is
temporarily frozen), you can read the details about the closure.  there is
a link to an online petition you can sign, and you can also e-mail the
harry fox agency at  clientservice@harryfox.com  to protest their actions.
actually, it was when i clicked on their e-mail addy to write them that my
browser froze up.  hmmm....sounds fishy

anyway, i just thought i would pass this unfortunate news on to y'all.

peace,

joan :-d

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i lost the address of how to get on the ig chat list on aol.  can any body
help?  first time responding to list but i've been a member for a while. i
love the indigo girls!  keep the info coming - the list is great!  jo

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ok! someone was talking to me about a boot or something and they had
said they were looking for a certain ani boot that had when doves cry on
it..i can't remember who you are but i've found it!
so email me ok?

*hugs*

lamia

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in a message dated 98-06-10 09:12:28 edt, randy writes:

<<  anybody who can come up with "snags" and
"heteroflexible" deserves public recognition. >>

i hate to rain on the parade ...... no, actually i love to rain
on parades ];)
buuuut the term snag has been around for a while....someone wrote
a song about s.n.a.g. 's .... was it christine lavin ?

hasta !
cbee

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pat robertson warns gays of hurricanes, meteor  - ap 10-jun-98

virginia beach, va. (ap) calling it a message of redemption,
religious broadcaster pat robertson said one of florida's biggest
cities should beware of hurricanes after allowing "gay days" last
weekend.

gay organizations sponsor the annual event in orlando, with flags
of  a rainbow design flying fromdowntown utility poles.

"i would warn orlando that you're right in the way of some
serious  hurricanes, and i don't think i'd be waving those flags
in god's face  if i were you," robertson said monday on "the 700
club," the christian broadcasting network talk show.

robertson also said the widespread practice of homosexuality
"will  bring about terrorist bombs, it'll bring earthquakes,
tornadoes and  possibly a meteor."

robertson said his warning "is not a message of hate. this is a
message of redemption."

mitch rosa, president of hampton roads pride, a regional gay
rights  group, laughed when he heard of robertson's remarks.

"i feel sorry for him, i really do," rosa said. "if he's worried
about a hurricane, he should worry first about his own roof."

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date:         wed, 10 jun 1998 18:09:36 -0500
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i only have to say what my 4 year old daughter  mariah just said...
"but why.....after the storms or on grey days, god brings out a huge
rainbow to show his love and protection for us all...why would he get
mad at the rainbow flags.....

ya know maybe a few more people need to listen to the kids...

sparkie...the mom of a wise 4yr old...

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date:         wed, 10 jun 1998 16:12:27 pdt
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>the term snag has been around for a while....someone wrote
>a song about s.n.a.g. 's .... was it christine lavin ?

who's christine lavin?  darned if i know, and darned if i've ever heard
her song...

jill, who maintains that she learned all her warped vocab in ober-land.

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in a message dated 98-06-10 19:19:48 edt, you write:

<< robertson also said the widespread practice of homosexuality
"will  bring about terrorist bombs, it'll bring earthquakes,
tornadoes and  possibly a meteor."
  >>


this cracked me up... he must have recently been to the movies and saw "deep
impact" i can't imagine my getting a date would actually cause some barometric
disturbance!!!!
emo

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>get me to
>> love so as much as i love rop and sots!  what about it makes it such
a
>> great disc for you?  what do you think i may be missing?

it's, it's, it's just like waves.  ya ever gone to the beach at night
and just stood there with your feet burrowed in the sand soft around
your toes and just listened to the waves, just smelled the water and
watched the waves crash into foam at your feet?  but mostly just
listened, just closed your eyes and the water was crashing in your head,
that pulsating, undulating, rhythmic beautiful pulse of nature and water
and harmony and god and power and magic and starry sky?  did you hold
your hands out, hold your arms up and your head back and your hair
streaming in the wind, swimming around your face?  did you hug your arms
to your chest and feel your own warmth, hear your own heartbeat, cradle
your own head in your hands and loving its every thought, feeling so
very in and of yourself and yet such a complete whole, an extension of
all that was surrounding you, you were those waves and that sand
sticking between your toes, you were born of that foam and indigo sky?
and then did you open your eyes to the heavens and know god was in each
and every one of those stars reflecting like ice diamonds in your
eyes?  all the while those waves, that flowing floating undulating
murmuring pulse that has something so important to say, that you need to
feel... those waves are ever washing ashore in perfect harmony.

that's swamp ophelia.

hope this helps.
jill

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hey all,
does anyone know the details on the del mar lilith?  specifically, how
tight is the security/searching going to be?  also, i'm looking for some
extra, good, rose bowl lilith tix.
peace,
java

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i did email you but i somehow lost your number while you are traveling - you
should have gotten my number twice - i just don't want to not connect with
you in nyc...
mike r.

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in a message dated 98-06-10 19:20:43 edt, jill  write:

<< who's christine lavin?  darned if i know, and darned if i've ever heard
her song...
  >>

christine lavin..... i'm pretty sure she did a stint with "the four bithchin'
babes'
anyways, she writes some seriously funny stuff.... if you were ever anywhere
near a college station that has a women's music show you would have heard it
...or someone has and it's passed into the terminology lexicon....or vise
versa.

now the  term snag as i've originally understood it (as per rita beads
of san fransisco) means a perpetually cranky person.... as a matter of
fact, i designed some t-shirts back in 1978 that proudly proclamed :
snag, san francisco ....not that that's here nor there ;)

anyhoo, christine lavin ....funny lady, in the recording she has the men in
the audience sing along ...very cute.
:)
claire

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hey y'all,

i just made a tape for a friend which includes songs that are either written
by or sung by amy or which feature her in some special way.  most of these
songs are live versions from various cd's or are from promo discs or
collections.  here is the list:

problem child
no way to treat a friend
reunion (acoustic)
cut it out/wish you were here
   universal amphitheater 1/30/98
chickenman
   london, nov 1994
gone again
   sydney, australia  2/27/98
ballad of squeaky fromme  1987
dead man's hill (studio acoustic)
shed your skin (tom morello remix)
forgiveness
   orlando, fl 11/29/97
cortez the killer (studio acoustic)
blister in the sun
   la jolla, ca 2/1/98
pushing the needle too far
   from stanley, son of theodore
chiapas bound
   hofstra  3/16/97
touch me fall
heartache central time
fugitive
   london, nov 1994
poor jerusalem from jcs
three hits
down by the river from 1200 curfews

if anybody would like a copy of this tape, just let me know.  it's a 90 minute
tape and i'll be happy to dub copies for a blank and sase.  the versions of
the new songs (chiapas, forgiveness, and gone again) are from good boots and
sound very good.  i don't have the carla faye tucker song, or i would have
included that too!

peace,

pam

p.s.  it's not my intention to exclude emily or in any way downplay her
importance to ig.  i love emily!  there was a specific reason that i made this
particular tape and just wanted to give people on the list access to some of
the new material all on one tape.

:-)

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speaking of song lyrics, will the person who posted the words to "blister in
the sun" please send them to me?  i would really appreciate it!

thanks,

pam

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in a message dated 98-06-10 20:21:52 edt, you write:

<< anyhoo, christine lavin ....funny lady, in the recording she has the men in
the audience sing along ...very cute. >>

yep!

she has men sing along in concert too.  in fact, we have a cd signed to us
from christine to me and my very own sensitive-new-age-guy!  christine lavin
is like the god-mother of the "new folk" movement.  she is responsible for a
number of compilation discs (on a winter's night, when october goes, big time
in a small town) which feature artists such as john gorka, patty larkin, chuck
pyle, some well-known, others less so.  she sings, she dances, she raps, she
twirls her baton.  if you ever have the opportunity to see her, go, go, go!!!
she is hysterically funny and heartbreakingly real.

peace,

pam

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i sure hope that pat robertson is in a different part of heavan than i'm
going too...its gotta be segregated for socalled "christian" who
hate...wait, the part of heavan he may be headed for is prolly lucifer's
lay..

pissed to be associated with someone who claims to be a christian...(he
lies)

karen

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christine lavin was a member of 4 bitchin' babes.  she also has a lot of
solo stuff and tribute albums etc.  check her out.  she is really funny!

:-) karen

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hey folks,

just an admin reminder - please don't quote other peoples'
entire messages when replying to the list.  thanks.

anyway, claire said:
> christine lavin..... i'm pretty sure she did a stint with "the four bithchin'
> babes'

yep, christine lavin was the founding member of the four
bitchin' babes but left the group last year.  she also has
something like ten solo albums, the latest of which, a live
album, is only available at shows or via the 'net (see
http://www.christinelavin.com).  as pam said, she's been
around for ages, she does a heck of a lot of stuff for the
us folk community (fans and fellow artists alike) and she is
widely regarded as one of the nicest and most generous
folkies around (there's even a two volume tribute album!).

yes, all this nigc has a point - it's leading to a shameless
plug, which is that there's a new christine lavin mailing
list called planet-x.  mail me if you want subscription
info...

(sorry if that was incoherent, i think i need to go home and
go back to sleep!)

-sherlyn
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i was off the list for a while but i'm happy to be back -- hi everyone.
i missed the first half of the discussion about the cd's with sys on them, so
i thought it was going to be an easily attainable thing.  i was wrong, i went
to every local music store this afternoon and no one knew what the hell i was
talking about.  except for one guy who said he had a promo copy of "something
by them" but nothing was released and he didn't seem like he was about to let
me see his copy any time soon :-(    i live in new jersey (monmouth county)
and i'm not conveniently close to borders or tower records which is where
everyone else seems to be going.  can anyone help?  anyone else from central
jersey area?   any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.   i'm sure you
all understand my need to hear blister in the sun!!!

thanks...
abby

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robertson has personally taken credit for steering 1985's hurricane
gloria
and 1995's hurricane felix away from his tv studio in virginia by the
power
of his prayers. like robertson, some leading scientists have recently
suggested that there will be a global increase in the number and scale
of
weather disasters, but they of course did not attribute them to
homosexuality.

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geesh you guys, i took a two hour lunch a boogied to borders to get cmj
and there is only 1 ig song on it...i'm bummed

k

ps   i was already bummed, before i left.

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just a quick question...has anyone done business with them?  are they
safe??

karen

still grumpy

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okay, one more quickie....is this a commerically released available cd?
is it something i want?  can anyone tell me what's on it and what year
its from?

the ever heteroflexible (jilly, does that apply to women who like men?)
stupendisly grumpy

karen

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sparkie -

that is amazing - you *do* have a wise 4 yr old!

take it easy -
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jill -

hot damn - that was kickass - i'm with you on that one!

you said it beautifully...swamp ophelia...ocean...yeah...

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ok...at the risk of sounding stupid, (everyone's entitled to some
retardedness!) what does that mean???

pax, celeste:)

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alrighty then...

so i did the 'drive around and try and find the red and blue sys/ig
cd's' too...*grin* but i ran into some nice people that work at record
archive (rochester,ny) - they had it - and they *knew* they had
it...and they *shared* it with me too...these cd's are *promos* and
are not for sale!  *argh*

so, this woman is *showing* them to me!!  (i want them so bad,
right!?) - and she's telling me that generally what happens is that
the employees get to keep them...argh - and this woman happens to be
the one that wants them...i ask her...'so, can i bribe you or
something for them?'  (heehee - really i tend to be an honest person,
right!?).  well anyhoo - she says...why not take them home and tape
them and bring them back?  (in exchange for my driver's license for a
few hours)...ok so i did it...(was that a bad thing?  i mean we've
been discussing copyrights and all that - but these are not for sale -
and if i could buy the cd's i would bc there are some hotty pics on
them!  i would *prefer* to buy the cd's...but hey, i was
*stuck*...so...hopefully it's alright...and im not stealing...).

so - i took the cd's back...*sigh* and when they gave me back my
drivers license...they also gave me a poster!  woo hoo - if you've
seen the cd's (the blue and the red...) the poster looks like the blue
cd...(i totally love the red pic and i tried to schmooze one of those
too - but they didnt have one...)

so anyway - a long story...but hey - a story nonetheless...

take it easy -
sunny

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in a message dated 98-06-10 22:04:41 edt, you write:

<< if you've
seen the cd's (the blue and the red...)  >>

what're y'all talking about???

thanx, celeste:)

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i apologize for any retarded things i've said, am saying, or will say in the
future...i tend to post stuff to the list about things that have already been
answered or said ( i don't bother to read all my mail before i reply) amyray,
thanx for putting up with it!

pax, celeste:)

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hey, everyone!  i'm trying to get a copy of the girls on the rosie
o'donnell show.  is there anyone who could help me out or point me in
the right direction to getting a copy?

thanks,

liz

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i have had a couple of transactions with joe at fortunate ones and found
him to be absolutely wonderful...
mary

karen frey wrote:

> just a quick question...has anyone done business with them?  are they
> safe??
>
> karen
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> still grumpy
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websurfers choose lilith's fairest
web surfers and music fans have the chance to vote online to
give a new band a break. of eight finalists, one group of
fresh voices will open this year's lilith fair, which was
founded last year by sarah mclachlan to celebrate women in
music. votes can be cast between now and this sunday, june
14, at www.levi.com (the jeans-maker is one of the fair's
sponsors). samples of the contestants' music can be heard at
the site. the winner will be announced monday, june 15, and
the lilith fair will open in portland, or, june 19. this
year's performance roster includes sheryl crow, shawn
colvin, sinead o'connor, queen latifah, indigo girls and
emmylou harris, and there will be more than 50 concerts
throughout north america.

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most beloved and revered list mother sherlyn,
    while sobbing with happiness, i want to say, welcome
back!!!
did you know that during your absence we were all
overwhelmed with a feeling of uneasiness, like our safety
net had been removed, like someone took our tattered, trusty
old security blanket? a black cloud loomed heavy over the
list during your absence, it was just sooo lonely without
you.  much to my chagrin, and i hope yours, i noticed the
faint evidence of spilled teardrops on some posts. oh how
those posts were especially troubling, honestly those broke
my heart!!! maybe you don't realize that abandonment can
cause 'issues.'  now i'm not trying to make you feel guilty,
just stating fact.
    and as much as i hate to admit it, and you know i'm not
a tattletale, but some kids were naughty while you were
gone! shame, shame on them.  not me tho, i was on my best
behavior!! and cause i'm a good one, fear not, i made a list
of all the bad kids.  i want to give you their names now,
it's just that i can't find my disk, the one that will
reveal the names of all those who were misbehavin'.
surprisingly, the usual troublemakers kinda toed the line
while you weren't lookin'. sadly, not all tho, not that miss
jill!  miss jill tried to start trouble, as usual!!!! don't
you think she's naughty and nice? i think most of the
naughty ones, fear you cause they know how frightful your
evil wrath can be. shiver, shiver, i shudder to think....
anyways, it was those goody goody ones, the kids who are
always suckin up to you, they were the ones who were
shamefully bad! sorta like, while the cat's away, them
immature mousers did play, even tho they know better!
    and you know that fellow you left to babysit, don't hire
him again! he's simply not responsible enough to babysit
this many people. perhaps next time, and gawd, please don't
let there be a next time, you might consider a team of
people, like mediators, doctors, psychologists, social
workers, clergy, and hired thugs (for the bad ones).
    now i'm not trying to be rude but, did we receive
appropriate notice that you were planning on abandoning us?
or maybe.....  did you just leave in the night, under the
cloak of darkness, without warning, dropping out of our
lives, robbing us forever of feeling safe, leaving us
frightened, and afraid to ever trust again?  i'm sorry if
this sounds harsh, but you must weigh your actions against
our feelings. true, your responsibility is great, but one
that you accepted....
    again, welcome back most beloved list mother!!!!  as
soon as i find my disk, i'll send you those names, so you
can get 'em!

peace + love,
forever a flower child
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attention!
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>> just a quick question...has anyone done business with them?  are they
>> safe??

well, the main fortunate ones guy, joe, is on this list... so joe if
you're out there, tell us how great you are...

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in a message dated 98-06-10 21:52:53 edt, karenfrey@redrose.net writes:

<<
just a quick question...has anyone done business with them?  are they
safe?? >>

hiya!  fortunate ones is great. :) fear not, joe's good people!

okay so i found out for those of youwho will be at lilith & expected to see
sheryl crow, that liz phair is filling in on 3 of the dates sheryl cancelled.
aka - rick is very jealous because rick has never seen liz nor will he be able
to. grr!

;) peace,
  rick
who just finished watching e.t. yet again. *sob*
page: http://members.aol.com/rbsayre/cheese.html
13. i will make friends with a straight man.
14. i will not make fun of the way he walks.
-mouse...

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hi all,

can anyone help me out with finding a copy of the 99-x live cd from
atlanta?  perhaps a swap for 4.5? or some other arrangement.  hope someone
can help!

david

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  does anyone know if liz phair will be filling in for sheryl crow at the
nm lilith??

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hey y'all--
i just got the latest new mongrels cd, "big cup of empty," and i just
have to rant and rave a little...for all of you who don't have it, you
should check it out.  it is amazing!!!  it has a great feel, kinda
southern folk with a rock twist---call me if i'm wrong, but that's my
take on it.  anyway, i don't even post all that often, but i just have
to say something about this cd, i'm speechless in amazement!  sorry
about the nigc, but this is worth it to me...and well, it is kinda igc
since amy and emily are part of the new mongrels :)  they're great on
it, of course!  what did you expect from our girl?

thanks for letting me have a minute,
kelly s

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i have  the second one and would like to get a hold of the first one. i was
also wondering if anyone had any of the older stuff that was recorded in
the 80's or is important to have. i have plenty to trade.

the kitty name became angel and she is very healthy which i was glad to
hear.

missy

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to all who wrote about joe's honesty and coolness, thank you!  joe, if you
are reading the list, so sorry, just afraid to get stung on the web...been
there, done that wore the tshirt

love karen (not grumpy yet, cause i'm still at home)>just a quick
question...has anyone done business with them?  are they safe??

> hey, karen!
> this guy (fortunate ones) is a listmember.  his name is joe hamilton.
> hope your elbow healed okay!

> elbow is terrific leigh ann, thanks for asking : )

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gee, this is a really risky prediction for him to be making,
right at the beginning of hurricane season!!!

mary, who is constantly amazed that people fall for this stuff.
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mary and jim tibbs
fredericksburg, va, usa
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pat robertson warns gays of hurricanes, meteor  - ap 10-jun-98

virginia beach, va. (ap) calling it a message of redemption,
religious broadcaster pat robertson said one of florida's biggest
cities should beware of hurricanes after allowing "gay days" last
weekend.

gay organizations sponsor the annual event in orlando, with flags
of  a rainbow design flying fromdowntown utility poles.

"i would warn orlando that you're right in the way of some
serious  hurricanes, and i don't think i'd be waving those flags
in god's face  if i were you," robertson said monday on "the 700
club," the christian broadcasting network talk show.

robertson also said the widespread practice of homosexuality
"will  bring about terrorist bombs, it'll bring earthquakes,
tornadoes and  possibly a meteor."

robertson said his warning "is not a message of hate. this is a
message of redemption."

mitch rosa, president of hampton roads pride, a regional gay
rights  group, laughed when he heard of robertson's remarks.

"i feel sorry for him, i really do," rosa said. "if he's worried
about a hurricane, he should worry first about his own roof."

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hey kind friends,

ok, i've been flooded with requests since my last few posts.  "can you
*give* me one of your copies?"  "how do i get my own copy?"  "where do
you find them?"  and many more.  all answers to such questions will be
answered here.

first off, i don't have any extras (and certainly none to *give* away).
if/when i do, i'll be making an open message out to this list.  i *do*
anticipate on getting at least 1 more in (i just need to go and pick it
up)....but if the shipment comes in next week, i could be getting a half
dozen or a dozen of them.  i will contact the list when i have them,
please don't contact me now.

now, lots of people have responded asking my help in where to find
these.  this i'm more than welcome to do.  first, you need to hit all
the indie stores and used cd stores (don't go to tower or the corporate
places).  when you get there, go back to the ig section (new cds) and
look.  then head over to used cds and have a look.  be sure to look
under ig, women's folk, women's rock, singles, compiliations and
soundtracks.  promos have been known to pop up in all these places.
while you're at it, be sure to pick up 1 or 2 cds and have then in your
hand (let them think you're serious about buying...you don't have to
buy, but give them an impression).  now, chances are you haven't found
anything.  in most self-respecting stores, there will be a bin near the
front counter....check here.  this is the bargin bin.  the cheapo discs.
and also, more importantly a "new in-stocks" bin.  this is where i
usually find promos.  if you find the red and blue cover discs....you
can expect to pay between $8 and $12 (that's what i found them for).  so
$10 is a good ballpark.  normally promos go for $3-$7, but the word is
out on these babies so their hot!

now, if you still haven't found them, ask a employee.  be very specific,
but not overly anxious.  i asked them, "have you guys gotten in any
indigo girls ep's?  it's a 5 track promo/demo with either a blue or red
cover?  comes in digipak format?"  it's very specifc and if they've got
it, they know what you're talking about.  be sure to ask 1 floor
employee and 1 behind the counter (people can make mistakes).  usually a
store will get in several copies.  1 or 2 red and a few blue.  several
people have written saying that employees usually keep these for
themselves.  this is very true.  it also means you're looking at the
wrong stores.  i found my best u2 promos in places specilizing in
country music.  i found these sys remixes in places specilizing in
techno and jazz.  know the business and what they carry.  this doesn't
mean that places that specilize in women's folk/rock won't sell them to
you, it just makes it harder to get them from the employees who also
like that kind of music.  i found one of the red copies at a store here
in nyc that specilizes in women's rock.  one of the employees is a big
ig fan, but she hadn't heard about this.  when i told her, she called up
their other store and they had 3 copies, and they sold me one.

you have to search for these.  they're not going to fall into your lap.
but the search can be fun and rewarding!  i went to 14 stores on my
haunt.  in 1 store, they told me to go to the other store.  in 3 other
stores, i found them, but in the rest i found nothing (although i turned
up some fun michelle malone promos, etc.)

finally, people have been writing saying that they can't find these in
their area.  be patient.  small towns are some of the best places to
find them!  pagosa springs, colorado and bellevue, iowa are two of my
favorite towns (when i'm in the area).  i always find stuff there.  just
because you live in a small town or someplace other than nyc doesn't
mean you can't get them.  be patient and put in the work looking for
them.

i hope this helps answer all the questions i've received.  best of luck
and happy searching!

cheers,
l'sly
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in a message dated 6/10/98 10:49:20 pm central daylight time,
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<< geesh you guys, i took a two hour lunch a boogied to borders to get cmj
and there is only 1 ig song on it...i'm bummed
  >>

what did you expect?  just wondering.....


brian

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hkf,

this is going to sound wild and i don't know if i totally believe it,
but a friend called this morning to say that rcam/epic has booked 1 day
of studio time this week here in nyc at knitting factory (they do lots
of mastering work and remixes, etc.)  i don't know if this is true, but
sounds intriguing.  it is not uncommon for bands to book a day of studio
time to get songs down in between albums (such as recording the karla
faye tucker or other songs).

one last thing on the tom morello mix, i put it on a tape before i went
out running last night.  it is the absolute perfect pace for
running!!!!!  it pushes you, but it's still not over kill.

l'sly


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those who are going to the fleadh and would also be interested in a list
meet, please e-mail me and let me know.

l'sly

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how do i get off this list?  i enjoy reading and replying, but i didn't realize the volume of mail.

thanks

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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 08:57:12 -0500
reply-to:     dan perkins <dan@tcdrs.org>
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from:         dan perkins <dan@tcdrs.org>
subject:      nigc: pat robertson
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so, last night i told my girlfriend what robertson had "predicted". she
then predicted that the widespread stupidity of narrow minded, right
wing religious leaders would cause rain and high winds. i woke up this
morning and it was raining!! coincidence? you be the judge.

peace,

dan perkins
austin, texas

"if you hate me, i can still love you"
        -amy ray

"free yourself from mental slavery, non but ourselves can free our
minds"
                -bob marley

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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 10:02:39 -0400
reply-to:     "karen l. frey" <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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from:         "karen l. frey" <karenfrey@redrose.net>
organization: integrity plastics
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okay, i'm at work now, all my messages about fortunate ones are on the
lap top, can someone please email me the web page???

not grumpy yet,
karen

ps  (i get grumpy from working for a douchbag)

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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 09:26:27 pdt
reply-to:     amy vorpagel <vorpagel@hotmail.com>
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from:         amy vorpagel <vorpagel@hotmail.com>
subject:      re: the wrath of robertson
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how convenient to pick the year of el nino and la nina to make this
"prediction". i want to giggle at the silliness of the comments, but i
can't because i know some people will take it seriously...

peace,
amy

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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 14:39:17 edt
reply-to:     mnoelm@aol.com
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subject:      re: amy compilation tape offer
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hey y'all,

you know, i don't know why i wasn't sure that people would want the amy tape i
just put together - i wanted it!  but unfortunately, i've gotten so many
responses that i need to close the offer for now.  anyone who has already
written me has gotten a response, so send in the tapes.  for everybody else,
i'll repost the offer after i finish making this first batch.

peace,

pam

go bulls!!!!!

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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 13:00:03 -0700
reply-to:     jeandigo gyrl <reposa@scf-fs.usc.edu>
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subject:      greetings from soundstone!!! (fwd)
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i got this today...um...weird..as if i would ever sell my boots..anyone
else ever gotten this??

                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
                                   jeanette
            http://members.tripod.com/~jeanettelynn/jeanette.html

             ***************************************************
                everything that i believe is wrong with you
                            is wrong with me
                everything i truly love, i love in you and
                            i love in me
                                            ** amy ray
             ***************************************************

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: thu, 11 jun 1998 13:43:09
from: soundstone <christopher@soundstone.com>
to: reposa@scf.usc.edu
subject: greetings from soundstone!!!

i recently visited your indigo girls site and want to explore the
possibility of working with you to promote music on-line.

our music-retail website offers the largest selection of albums available
on-line.  the soundstone.com approach to cd sales is unique.  we provide
visitors with interesting and informative content from writers who are
intelligent and entertaining (with just the proper degree of quirkiness).
check it out and tell us what you think.

if you are interested in linking with us so your visitors can come to
soundstone.com to purchase music, please contact us or check out our
affiliate network program.  the anp is designed to compensate those
websites that link with us.  we will pay you 5% of sales revenue in cash
for every cd purchased at soundstone.com by a customer coming from your
site.  it's our way of creating an on-line music community and saying thank
you for linking!  it is entirely up to you if you wish to join this program
and simply setting up a link is always an option.

soundstone.com was recently selected as a lycos top 5% site and we had a
huge write-up in the "merchants & marketing" section of the 1/17 billboard
(yeah!)

e-mail us with any questions you have.  we hope to hear from you soon!


keep on rockin' in the web world,

sincerely,


christopher@soundstone.com

to join the affiliate network, please point your browser to
http://www.soundstone.com/scripts/affil_main.cfm?rfd=1&rpd=0

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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 16:00:20 -0000
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from:         melissa singhaus <msinghaus@msmisp.com>
subject:      organized a fumble gathering for 4th before the 5th show and any
              ig that wants to attend here is the information
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date july 4, 1998
where: club dance off of brice road in columbus
meet: out side of parking lot
time: 6:00 to when ever

e-mail to say you are coming and for directions.

the amy ray tape that pam did up. i am getting so if you didn't get in
before she cut it off i can copy it for you. missy

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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 14:09:52 -0400
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subject:      club r&r
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there's a club r&r promo cd for sale for $100 at
<http://www.cdcellar.com/>.  see the discography linked to my ig index for
details.

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reply-to:     kelly fairbairn <fairbk@sage.edu>
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hello all.

is there anyone out ther that might be willing to copy the ep for a poor,
undeserving soul that does not have a decent used or indie cd shop nearby?
(the only one that would have had it went out of business several months
ago.)

i really tried to get it, (got the blisters to prove it!) and left my
name and number in several places, but it's looking pretty bleak. (several
blank stares and a couple of dumb looks.)  one place said they *had* it,
but someone had already gotten it.  if there is anyone out there
who might be willing to help me out, you will be worshipped like the deity
you are.  :)  as much as i would love to buy it, i do not have an
opportunity to.  i'm not sure about the copyright restriction or whatnot,
but right now i am so frustrated with copyright law, i'm willing to flaunt
it.  (started working in ill in a local college library this summer.
never knew how much control publishing houses have until now.)

i am not in a position to offer a trade.  (my boots were destroyed not too
long ago.  don't ask.)  i will however do a 2:1 or 3:1 or whatever for
your trouble.

it's looking pretty good for getting the issue of cmj--got two orders in
at two different bookstores.  nowhere i went had it in stock, but all
were willing to help.

thanx in advance.

k.

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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 16:15:13 -0400
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howdy,

i just heard the girls'll be playing a small venue in new hampshire next
month! (excellent news for those of us up here in the woods who have been
schlepping all over creation to see them.) here's the info:

july 12, meadowbrook farm, rte. 11 gilford n.h. (near gunstock ski area,
laconia & the lakes region--central n.h.)

you can get tix through strawberries or by calling 1-888-4-meadow.

i don't know much about the place (indoor? outdoor?) but who cares when
the girls are practically in your back yard!! yeah!

peace,

diana, who once shook amy ray's hand and was too freaking
blown away to say anything intelligent or meaningful.

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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 16:18:18 -0400
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from:         "m. macvey" <mmacvey@attach.net>
subject:      re: nigc rainbo flags/hurricanes
x-to:         jim & mary tibbs <mtibbs@fls.infi.net>
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>virginia beach, va. (ap) calling it a message of redemption,
>religious broadcaster pat robertson said one of florida's biggest
>cities should beware of hurricanes after allowing "gay days" last
>weekend.
gee i didn't know he was a weatherman too...'low pressure area approaching
from the nw, rainbow flag sited in ohio, floods expected'...isn't this the
guy that was thinking of running for president?...now there is a scary
thought.
m

"free your mind and your ass will follow" (funkadelic)

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hey folks,
anyone interested in this disc, i can let one go for $87. save a few
bucks.
peace,
joe


on thu, 11 jun 1998, deb wrote:

> there's a club r&r promo cd for sale for $100 at
> <http://www.cdcellar.com/>.  see the discography linked to my ig index for
> details.
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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 13:34:43 -0700
reply-to:     luna tick <luna-tick@home.com>
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i finally got back to my computer and here is everything i want to say:

lilith in san diego.  it will be like all other concerts plus a little
extra security cuz of the appeal of this concert.  but it will be yeah
none the less.

does anyone know the price of the disc they are selling at lilith?  i
will be sadly missing lilith in sd cuz of my thespian stuff.  i would
really want one add i just need to know how much they are so i can send
one of my friends who are going with the cash.

so- this is my favorite ig album by far.  yeah!!!  i found they even
have it at my library.   very exciting.  there aren't words to describe
this album.  i am drunk in emotions when i listen to it.  so yeah!! and
double yeah!!  for it.

hugs and hershey kisses~
luna

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reply-to:     orange1000@aol.com
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hello,

just wondered if you guys have ever organized a bus to take people to the
concerts, i think it would be a fun way to get all us ig fans together, we
could sing on the bus on the way there, and stop at a restraunt on the way
back.  just a idea, i have no clue how much it is to do something like this,
and what the disadvantages are, it just sounds fun.  any input?

mary

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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 15:59:53 -0700
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thanks everyone whos replied...ive realized its just a link, but not worth
it, as many pointed out..thanks again!!!!

                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
                                   jeanette
            http://members.tripod.com/~jeanettelynn/jeanette.html

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                            i love in me
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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 19:37:38 -0400
reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
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subject:      ig sys remix cds !
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i can get cmj for anyone who *really* needs it borders and walden books both
carry them -
the sys thing will be on sale at lilith and i'm betting at newport as they
sold the "bmhawk" single there in 95 or 96...
i really like the remix tho-
mjr

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hey y'all,

i was wrong.

>       also, my honey was reading the book "squeaky" (god, i hope that's the
> title) by that bugliosi detective/lawyer guy who was all into prosecuting
> manson and the others (you can tell *i* didn't read the book)...

that *is* the title, but that's *not* the author.  it was written by jess
bravin.  sorry about that.

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand-a.r.

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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 17:44:18 pdt
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subject:      very little igc: sarah mclachlan, ulali
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sorry for the nigc, but two things:

-does anyone have the lyrics to sarah mclachlan's song adia? if you
could email them to me, that'd be great!

-i just got a cd called tribal voices put out by earthbeat. it has a
cool track by ulali... in fact it's the song "grammah easter's lullaby"
which is the song that ig sing at the end of their song on honor1...
blood quantam? sorry, i'm distracted because i'm watching those red
wings!!! woohoo! go wings! just thought i'd share. if you want some info
on this album email me.

peace,
amy

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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 21:43:40 -0400
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sorry for the nigc...

are any of you listees who live in philly driving to the ani show at mann
music center next friday?  because of the septa strike, i'm left with no
transportation but my own two feet.  does anyone have extra room in their
car?  i live in center city.

thanks!
steph

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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 22:16:09 -0400
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subject:      cool yogart (sigc)
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hey everyone!

today i went to the berkely bowl (this ultra cool grocery store with lots
of good organic foods! yummy!) and got this yogart.  as i was eating it
tonght, i noticed on the package that it says "made with the milk of human
kindness"!  anyway, guess what song popped into my head right then!  it
was sort of an indigo moment!  :-)

:-) karen

go bulls! ! !  (my mom's goin' to the game on friday!  she went to last
year's championship game also, but i was at an indigo girls concert that
night (kettering, ohio) so i was out of town.  this year, again, i can't
go with her...oh well...)

************************************************
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i speak for the trees for the trees have no
tounges." (dr. seuss)
"and me, i'm still tryin' to live half
a life on the road." (indigo girls es)
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date:         thu, 11 jun 1998 19:25:17 -0700
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thanks so much for your suggestions on 'how to get your own remix'!!!
i totally took your advice to heart and after work today - set off on
my search for ig promos!  *grin*  i did pretty good too!!!  i was able
to get my hands on the ep - the blue one w blister in the sun (and the
hotty pic on the front) - alas...i'm still looking for the red one!
*but* i started looking in the used cd section and i looked down and
right in front of me was the single/promo for touch me fall!  i
couldnt even believe it!  whoa.  i also found a promo for k's
choice...i think i did pretty good tonight...hmmm...??  a new hobby?
haha

anyhoo - good luck to everyone...im going to continue my search as
well - if i find any extras ill be sure to let you know!

(oh! i also found a used michelle malone cd as well...)

take it easy -
sunny


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ohmygosh... here i am watching the capitols/red wings hockey game when
some dude gets a penalty.... and in the backround they start playing
nothimg other than shame on you!   who woulda thought... ig at a hockey
game...
anyway, have a happy summer everyone, i'm off to camp :)
jill :)

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i got a lot of replys from people and they were all really nice.  i just
wanted to thank you guys all for replying to me.  i got about six songs to
check out.  i just figured it was easier to give a public thanks than
individual thanks.  so, thanks! : )

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hey y'all!

(man, i haven't been on the list in about two years... hope there are some
familiar faces and that all has been well!! :)

i'm in need of decent tickets to lilith fair (july 24) and mary chapin
carpenter's concert (july 25) in atlanta, ga.  the trip is already planned,
but we don't want to sit in outer space for the show.  :)  there are zero good
seats available, which makes me wish we had planned earlier...

if anyone has tickets to sell, please write to me!  thanks for your time!

keeping my fingers crossed,
tamara
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ok ya'll i have searched every last corner of the web, but no luck yet!
does anyone have a boot more recent than like, warfield? that seems to
be where just about everyone's lists stop, and i really really really
would like to get the karla faye tucker song! someone somewhere has got
to have this! please????

*hugs*

lamia

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hey folks,

i was just wondering if any australians managed to catch
the letterman that ig appeared on last week?  i went
away but i set the video for friday and saturday's
advertised times... and ended up with an hour of tennis
and an hour of religious tv instead.  oh well...

:)
sherlyn
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>robertson has personally taken credit for steering 1985's hurricane
>gloria
>and 1995's hurricane felix away from his tv studio in virginia by the
>power
>of his prayers.

hey!  :( :(  that bastard!  hurricane gloria just happened to have missed
virginia and blew through long island while i was living at home in ny.  i
watched our lawnmower and backyard shed blow away into the air.  i was so
scared and upset at the time.  now to hear that pat robertson was
responsible for the trauma...this is awful.  how could he have known i was
gay way back then.  he aimed that wretched storm directly at my house.  hey
i hear the only other house on long island to take any damage was my gym
teacher.  i knew she was gay!!!  how does he do it?  man that pat can
surely pick out who's gay and who's straight.   i suppose he is going to
take credit for the orlando magic losing shaquille o'neill to the lakers
because they hosted gay day at disney world.  he is powerful!

what's that, pat?  you mean there's going to be a mugging in new york city
today because they have a huge pride parade.  i'm sorry--did you say
someone is going to die in san francisco because the mayor supports gay
rights--oh my what an unlikely occurrence that would be in such a large
city.  takes real genius to predict a hurricane in central florida.  that's
like saying it might rain in seattle today and it's because of the
homosexuals.  get over yourself.  go join your wife in virginia who will
surely be performing her "wifely duties" and has dinner and a smile waiting
for you at home.  unreal that such ignorance still exists in 1998.  ok--i'm
done venting--sorry for the nigc.

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re-subscribing and delurking to ask if anyone from the list is
planning on going to the ani concert at the wolf trap?  wanna meet up
or anything?

anna


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i just love it!!!  vindication.  maybe i could patent my ideas and then
have somebody develop a late night infomercial.  "finding rare cds with
lance longwell's proven method."  get your credit cards ready folks!!!!
but for this list (to quote k's choice)..... everything for free.

cheers,
l'sly

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cdnow has a listing for a "3 on 1" cd of the eponymous album, sf, and
nomads.  see

<http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/sid=658365027/pagename=/rp/cdn/find/al
bum.html/artistid=frn-indigo+girls/ddcn=sd-7464+65609+2>

or just search for "indigo girls" at

<http://cdnow.com/from=sr-20927>.

it's available for advance ordering now.  here's the info:

                                 list price $ 29.97
                                   cdnow price $25.49
                                   expected release date:
                                   june 30, 1998.

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here's parts of an article that was in the toronto dyke mag siren (june/july
1998)- if the writers are on the list and object to my copying this, sorry-
writes of passage: the rock and roll road trip
kate morgan & susan wilkes

"two friends, 3 nights, 4 days, 3 371 km, 11 states, 2 concerts, and we now
have new identities: we are rock and roll road trip dykes, thank you very
much a dare to dream fantasy in january, it came to fruition april 30, and,
in every sense of the word, what a trip it was.

the initial inspiration was to see michelle malone sing in atlanta on may 2.
an atlanta musician who often performs with indigo girls, she makes you feel
lucky for knowing her music. just before leaving, we found that the girls
were playing in south carolina so (as the ig groupies we are; or rather,
would like to be) we duly adjusted our schedule.

april 30- leave at 4:00 am. point mught toyota tercel towards south
carolina...(snip) arrive in greenville, sc at 7:30 pm for the 8:00 pm
concert a little delirious, but thrilled. concert review: the girls are
great, the sound is not...(snip)

may 2- ...evening is michelle malone.
michelle malone slays us. its a magical night. two shows, with her mother
opening up for both. karyn malone was a jazz singer in the 70s and hasn't
played in years. its clear where michelle gets her talent. a member of
karyn's band, beast, was the coolest pianist we've ever seen and he and kate
had a grooving connection through each of the sets. michelle is a tiny
rocking live wire. great songs, beautiful voice, wicked guitar. the
nightclub, eddie's attic, is a great little club, populated tonight by a
bunch of dykes, a bunch of malones, and two exhilerated canadians..."

those are the parts of the article that actually relate.

sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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hey everybody...
does anyone out there have a schedule (times, stages) of this weekends
fleadh?  specifically sunday?  if so, i'd lofve it if you'd post it.
thanks...
stephen

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hi again, everyone.  i know i can get quite annoying with this, but i'm
getting desperate...does anyone know who's opening for the indigo girls in
rochester?  i've searched high and low and no one knows...and there's no
info online...they must have an opener...there's no way they're doing it
alone.  please help!!!!!!  thanks!
-jen

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somewhat related to the talk of late regarding the
fundamentalists protesting at disney, i just got a
joke via e-mail, that i will make available to any
interested.  it's dirty, and some may find it
offensive.  if you'd like to see it, e-mail me.

still looking for his ass (i laughed it off over
this joke),


rich benson
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go under the ivy,
go under the leaves, for me.
go right to the rose.
go right to the white rose
i'll be waiting for you.
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my office mate has two tickets to the lilith fair in columbus (oh) on
july 5 that she needs to find a new home for.  the seats are in the
lawn section, row seven.  she's asking for $31 each to cover charges
and such.  if you're interested, email her at yateskj@jmu.edu.

:)
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i just heard least complicated on the radio, but it was
not the version from swamp ophelia.  the dj said it was an "acoustic
exclusive".  does anyone know when they recorded it or where it could be
found?  sorry if this is something really dumb and obvious, but i am a
pretty new fan, and i don't really know much about a lot of their music
yet.

liz

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at 11:16 am 6/12/98, l hayes wrote:
>
>i just heard least complicated on the radio, but it was
>not the version from swamp ophelia.  the dj said it was an "acoustic
>exclusive".  does anyone know when they recorded it or where it could be
>found?

i think i have a copy of this on the cities'97 sampler from several years
ago, but there may be other copies of it elsewhere.

lisa

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i just got my ig stamps yeaterday..they are so cool!! and because of the
delay the wonderful melanie sent me the third stamp..i suggest everyone
get at least one..theyre worth more than the $5 and you can use them for
everything- stationary, decorate envelopes, decorate boots, whatever you
can think of...im so excited!!!!

                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
                                   jeanette
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i had several people from both list e-mail me asking me how old you have to
be to get into club dance. well as long as you are 18 you can get in, but
you can not drink. don't worry i will not be drinking either, because i can
not mix it with my medicine so come join in on the fun and if their is
anyone younger then 18 that wants to go let me know so i can pick another
place so we can include them as well. missy

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another angle in the sys quest...i e-mailed my college radio station and
begged and pleaded that they (a) play the song and (b) find it in their
hearts to allow me to gain access to the ep through purchase, pleading,
community service, whatever.

the station manager (who i e-mail pretty regularly with requests and
questions...mainly things like, "why don't you play more ig and ani?) said
that since i'm such a good guy, he would call epic and get one for me.

so if you're in with any station managers, lay it on them, and you might
find success.

have a blast!

j u s t i n

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   ok, here are my plans for the indy july 4th lilith fair...we'll
probably get there really early (1-2ish) and have a picnic on the
car/van/truck/whatever.  i think it would be fun to meet people from the
list, so here's my proposal -- after concerts my friends/family and i tend
to head south to the steak n shake on i-69 and 96th street, which is the
only thing that is close to the interstate, open at 1am, and cheap
(especially considering deer creek prices).
   so what about meeting there and hanging out and goofing off, until
people feel tired and wanna leave?  let me know...

   darius

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to the seeds i've sown
can you give me a reason sir,
as to why they've never grown..."
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so it turns out i can go up to boston on the weekend the indigo girls
are there but when i called to buy tickets i found out they only have
obstructed view tix left.  anyone out there have 2 extra tix?

thanks!
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jeanette said:
>i just got my ig stamps yeaterday..they are so cool!! and because of
the
>delay the wonderful melanie sent me the third stamp..i suggest everyone
>get at least one..theyre worth more than the $5 and you can use them
for
>everything- stationary, decorate envelopes, decorate boots, whatever
you
>can think of...

eh?  wha?  huh?  haa?  where was i when all this stampage transpired?,
as i have noooo idea to what you're referring.  please inform asap...

lost as usual,
jill

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hi.  i was wondering if anyone has or knows where i can find the guitar
chords for get together.  i've found pages that have indigo girls music
and i've found pretty much every song, even ones written by other people
that the ig did.  i don't know who get together was written by, but i'd
really like the guitar chords if anyone can help me.

thanks,
sharon

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date:         fri, 12 jun 1998 14:42:12 -0400
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hey everyone,

   don't know if there are any janis fans out there, but columbia had just
released a janis joplin and big brother "live at winterland '68" cd.  and
in an e-mail that i receive from columbia they just talked about what the
cd included and here a clip with the ig content...

there are personal quotes from
meredith brooks, kim gordon of sonic youth, debbie harry of
blondie, chryssie hynde of the pretenders, joan jett, stevie nicks,
amy ray of the indigo girls, patti smith, and ann and nancy
wilson of heart.

   if you're interested in the whole article... i left it at the bottom.
(it's kinda long, but a must for any janis fan)

take it easy
roger


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by deserting their ideals.  years may wrinkle this skin, but to give up
interest wrinkles the soul.            - d. m.
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32 years ago today (june 11, 1966), janis joplin turned pro,
singing for the first time on-stage with big brother & the holding
company at the avalon ballroom in san francisco.   though that
historic first performance has been lost to time and memory, you
can experience janis joplin with big brother and the holding company
on a new live recording (winterland '68) just released on legacy
recordings.  here's a little bit about the album:

janis joplin with big brother and the holding company live at
winterland '68, the first completely unissued full-length
concert to capture the group at its peak in the months leading up
to the appearance of their columbia debut album cheap thrills, has
been scheduled for release in commemoration of the 30th anniversary
of the band's signing to columbia records.

the 14-track, 75-minute live at winterland '68 is packed with live
touchstones of the band's "progressive-regressive hurricane blues
style," as guitarist sam andrew characterizes their sound in the
liner notes written by ben fong-torres: "down on me," "piece of my
heart," "summertime," "bye bye baby," "ball & chain" and more.
but the new release also includes versions of four genuine
rarities not recorded on the two original big brother lps with
joplin: "flower in the sun," "farewell song," "catch me daddy"
(formerly "brownsville"), and folksinger mark spoelstra's "magic
of love."

recorded during big brother's triumphant san francisco homecoming
on april 12-13, 1968, live at winterland '68 is the latest entry
in the "live from the vaults" series of columbia/legacy, a
division of sony music entertainment inc.  the album was
released to stores on june 2nd   - just over the thirty year
anniversary when big brother first played the opening night of
bill graham's fillmore east in new york on march 8, 1968, the
same time their columbia signing was officially announced and
they began to record their first album for the label.

live at winterland '68 is an appropriately first class package
which includes the original poster art from the actual concert.
dual sets of liner notes put the entire story of janis joplin and
big brother in context, as written by ben fong-torres, former
editor of rolling stone, and jaan uhelszki, formerly of creem
magazine.  additional notes by band members sam andrew and dave
getz provide an insider's perspective; and a 'family tree' by
pete frame fills in the gaps.  there are personal quotes from
meredith brooks, kim gordon of sonic youth, debbie harry of
blondie, chryssie hynde of the pretenders, joan jett, stevie nicks,
amy ray of the indigo girls, patti smith, and ann and nancy
wilson of heart.

from a technical standpoint, live at winterland '68 was remixed
and remastered from the original eight-track masters.  reissue
producer bob irwin and sony music studios engineer vic anesini
worked closely with representatives of janis joplin's estate and
members of big brother to insure the raw flavor of the project.
to that end, much of the between-song commentary is retained.

big brother and the holding company had solidified its lineup by
early 1966: guitarists sam andrew and james gurley, bassist
peter albin, and drummer david getz; janis joplin completed
the lineup when she joined in june.  though rock lore has it
that big brother was "discovered" at the monterey international
pop festival in june 1967, in fact, they'd already recorded their
eponymous first lp, which was released that august by mainstream
records (who subsequently sold it to columbia in 1971).  four of
the songs heard on live at winterland '68 date from that seminal
lp: "down on me," "bye bye baby," "easy rider," and "light is faster
than sound."

in the heady aftermath of monterey pop and the columbia courtship
that followed, which was negotiated by the group's newly acquired
manager albert grossman, the star of big brother and the holding
company rose meteorically.  they went from serving as house band at
the avalon ballroom in san francisco to headlining tours with b.b.
king, albert king, blood sweat & tears and others.

big brother arrived in new york in february 1968, established
themselves on the east coast, and soon began the recording of
cheap thrills with producer john simon.  five of the songs heard
on live at winterland '68 date from that critically acclaimed
album, which went to number one for eight weeks in the summer of
1968: "i need a man to love," "combination of the two," "piece of
my heart," "summertime," and "ball & chain."

when big brother and the holding company returned home to san
francisco, promoter bill graham booked them for three nights,
opening at the fillmore and then moving to winterland for the
next two nights.  this success set the stage for the completion of
cheap thrills and its release on columbia in august.  ironically,
although the album had sold enough within a month to become an
riaa gold record, joplin and grossman announced her departure from
the band in september.

"after a final gig in december [with big brother]," writes ben
fong-torres, "she would put together one ensemble [kozmic blues
band], then another [full tilt boogie band].  she enjoyed some
highs, both personally and professionally, but the end came far
too soon."  janis joplin died on october 4, 1970.  and although
the members of big brother have kept the band going to this day
with a succession of lead singers, "it is inevitable," fong-torres
concludes, "that people are thinking about the singer who isn't
there."

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date:         fri, 12 jun 1998 13:50:21 -0500
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eh?  wha?  huh?  haa?  where was i when all this stampage transpired?,
as i have noooo idea to what you're referring.  please inform asap...

evidently i was visiting there as well......please inform this wayward
traveler as well....sparkie

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date:         fri, 12 jun 1998 15:17:21 -0400
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does anybody know where i can get those blue and red cd's in montreal?

thanks!

isabelle :)

(wishing i lived near atlanta! :)

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date:         fri, 12 jun 1998 13:05:14 -0700
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since so many people missed this the first few times around..heres the
scoop...

melanie offered three stamps to the list (ink stamps, ig are not on any
postal stamps for those who are confused) they are $5 each, and well worth
it..one says closer to fine by being on line, one says indigo and has two
of the sins for females, and the third has a heart, peace sign, & ig..they
are totally cool, and everyone should get one...her email is
melaniekrs@aol.com  theyre in the process of moving, so give her time to
get back to you..the stamps are well worth the wait.. hope thats
everything..let me know if theres any more questions!!!

                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
                                   jeanette
            http://members.tripod.com/~jeanettelynn/jeanette.html

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                            is wrong with me
                everything i truly love, i love in you and
                            i love in me
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hey yall
so i thought i would share bout my ig week. ok so it was like a day, but humor
me... so we were at the beach and it was shitty weather so we decided to go to
the outlet malls...first the music store we went in had the ig screensavers
for 99 cents so i picked up 2 extra ones cause i lost mine (if anyone wants
the other two lemme know) then we went in the levis store and the video for
ctf was on the monitors, and finally we got in the car later and shame on you
was playing. that was pretty cool. ok thats it, not that exciting, but ya
know...

i think thats it, i had something else to say but i forgot...  anyone going to
the tibetan freedom concert tomorrow or sunday ???

peace
sasha

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date:         fri, 12 jun 1998 14:27:47 pdt
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it would be cool if the girls or maybe just emily would do "cry
baby"..that is a rockin song...

*hugs*

lamia


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date:         fri, 12 jun 1998 18:41:10 -0400
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anna wrote:
>
> my office mate has two tickets to the lilith fair in columbus (oh)
          <snip>
> the seats are in the lawn section, row seven.

um, nope... to the best of my recollection (don r, help me out here...)
there are no designated spots on the lawn... it's basically first come -
first serve!  (unless you can fake an injury and get them to let you go
in ahead of the rest of us... right heather? <wink wink>)

twink! (who's in a weird mood... i'm warning ya!)
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date:         fri, 12 jun 1998 18:50:25 -0400
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the past few weeks, i was thinking about the song me and bobby mcgee. i
came to the conclusion that amy would do an absolutely incredible job on
this song if she sang it. it would be very hard to do a better version of
the song because it rules, but i'm sure amy could do it.
rb

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> me and bobby mcgee.
>
> amy would do an absolutely incredible job on
> this song
>
>
>
        i definitely agree......maybe we could beg...does she have a
suggestion box anywhere?...sparkie
        [riney, lora lei l.]

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barb & twink wrote:

> um, nope... to the best of my recollection (don r, help me out here...)
> there are no designated spots on the lawn... it's basically first come -
> first serve!

  - yup! free-for-all on the lawn :)

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hey all~
     i just wanted to say thanks to all who responded to my post about my
dance teacher having cancer. it really meant a lot ot me. i never knew there
were so many people on this list who cared so much! so thanks guys! (*sniff*)
you really made my day a lot better! :o) i really appreciate it and how
incredibly caring you all are! :o) peace, love, and  happiness to you all,
~alyssa

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ditto here, whats going on????

scratching head,  karen

eh?  wha?  huh?  haa?  where was i when all this stampage transpired?,

> as i have noooo idea to what you're referring.  please inform asap...
>
> evidently i was visiting there as well......please inform this wayward
> traveler as well....sparkie
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just wanted to share, if anyone doesn't mind  some lilith news!

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subject: excitement builds... lilith only one week away!

hello!  let me introduce myself. my name is jennifer gray - murmurs fan
club coordinators most of you know, leanne is headed out on the road and i
will be here in her absence.

the past few weeks have been busy for us here at murmurs! sarah and ash
have been in the office putting the final touches on everything lilith.
leanne tells me that this years back-drop is angelicly breathtaking! (much
like sarah herself)  <smile> here's the scoop on tickets which go on sale
tomorrow *saturday, june 13th* for the following lilith shows:
* park city, ut @ wolf mountain
* boise, id @ idaho center amphitheater

tickets for lilith fair in utah are available through smith's tix
(http://www.smithstix.com/). the tickets for this show will be going
on-sale at 9am on saturday. there are two numbers you can call for ticket
info: 801-467-tixx or their toll-free number, which is 1-800-888-tixx. for
the show in idaho, check out select-a-seat tickets
(http://www.sasticket.com/) to see if they can possibly offer any info on
tickets. it is not fully confirmed that they are the main outlet for lilith
fair tix. people attempting to get tickets for this show might try calling
them tomorrow, as their web site states that their offices are only open
from monday to friday. their charge-by-phone numbers are 208-385-1766
(from10am to 8:30pm) or 208-385-1110 (from 10am to 2pm). remember too that
ticket on-sales are subject to last-minute changes...

there are some new items which have been added to the merchandise section
of the lilith fair web site. new items include: a sarah 18-month calendar,
temporary tattoos, and some new t-shirt and jewellery designs. you can view
them at the official lilith fair web site. or you can call our mailorder
dpt. here at nettwerk  1-800-764-3472) for the updated sarah colour
catalogue, which we'll be getting in next week!  you can also email them
at: mail.orders@nettwerk.com. please be sure to specify that you would
like a free sarah catalogue, and do include your full name and postal address
when you email them so that they can send one off to you right away.

in press news, there will be a special lilith fair article in the june
issue of seventeen magazine, and a smaller article on sarah in the july
issue. also look for a lilith fair article in the june edition of
entertainment weekly. appearing with sarah on the cover are fellow lilith
artists : liz phair, paula cole, natalie merchant and missy elliott. it's
on newstands now!
in other news, earlier this week sarah and ash purchased a new-to-them
house  here in beautiful vancouver and are excited to get settled. rex is
too!

finally some news for you cd collectors! there will be a limited edition
'adia' commercial single coming out in canadian cd stores on *tuesday, july
7th*. only 10,000 copies will be made of this single, and it will only be
available in canada. please note that nettwerk's mailorder dpt. may stock
some copies at a later date, though that is not confirmed at this time.

the track listing for the 'adia' cd single will be:

        1. adia (tom lord alge remix)
        2. angel
        3. i will remember you
        4. building a mystery (live lilith fair)


stay cool and have a safe, sunny weekend!
until next week... au revior!

jennifer

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murmurs@nettwerk.com

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 13:03:18 +1200
reply-to:     lynda raina <l1rw@telecom.co.nz>
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heya all,

i have a friend in rochester, minneapolis (sp?) at the moment and he is
willing to get me the ig sys remix and the cmj july mag, but he can't
seem to find it around. does anybody know where he can find them near
rochester? any help greatly appreciated...

cheers,
lynda

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here's a question to all on the list:  what is the most prized indigo girls
momento that you posess??  an autographed picture, a personal a or e item,
etc...??
  i have a poster that i climbed a telephone pole in berkeley to get back in
'90, my first ig show.(senitmental & the fact that i never see these posters
anymore for their shows)  it's not autographed but it still means the world to
me.  (:

i'd love to hear what everyone else has.  post it up fellow indigonians!!
~jennifer

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subject:      ig postcards

in case anyone missed this announcement,
tower records now has free postcards
featuring amy and emily.  anyone who doesn't
live near a tower and wants some, email me.

i will try to send 5 or so cards to anyone
who asks...

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in a message dated 98-06-12 21:29:23 edt, jen writes:

<< here's a question to all on the list:  what is the most prized indigo girls
momento that you posess??  an autographed picture, a personal a or e item,
etc...?? >>

i'm not a big collector...but when i saw my first ig show in '89
at a little club in portland, i bought a t-shirt and they gave me a poster
for the show as  'bonus'  :)
it's pretty dog eared and all but it's a sentimental favorite.
if i didn't feel so cheesy about asking for autographs i might
like to get it signed someday.
but they might think i was a weasle trying to make it worth something.
i like it as it is.....tacked on the wall in my painting studio with all of
the
rest of my crap.
:)
claire

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date:         fri, 12 jun 1998 22:24:37 -0400
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i don't actually have it in my possession yet, but one of my bestest and
dearest friends in the universe attended a concert on the penobscot nation
last year during the ig honor the earth tour and my friend got to meet and
chat with both a and e because she just happens to be a staff writer for a
local paper. anyway, she got for me an autographed poster because she felt
terrible that i couldn't be there.  the poster being autographed is just
the icing...the best part to me is the fact that she thought of me during
this incredible experience and i will never forget that.
  peace,
       sharoane

>  here's a question to all on the list:  what is the most prized indigo
girls
> momento that you posess??  an autographed picture, a personal a or e
item,
> etc...??
>   i have a poster that i climbed a telephone pole in berkeley to get back
in
> '90, my first ig show.(senitmental & the fact that i never see these
posters
> anymore for their shows)  it's not autographed but it still means the
world to
> me.  (:
>
>

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date:         fri, 12 jun 1998 22:31:39 -0400
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hello everyone!
    first off, just a quick mention that my email address has changed yet
again, but my old isis1@megalink.net will be good for a few more weeks as
well. it's just at my gf's apartment. we decided that having separate
internet accounts to go along with our separate apartments was best.  at
least, she decided and i decided not to argue.
     okay! in the past, various list members have done surveys to find out
where most of us live, how old we are, etc. and i feel that it's time for a
new survey of listees.  once i have received and tabulated the results,
i'll post them for you all.
  here are my questions...
  1. how old are you?
  2. how long have you been on this list? (date of signing or actual
day/week/month/year)
  3. what state do you live in?
  4. what do you do for a living? (student is a valid choice here, i oughta
know)
  5. what is your favorite ig album?
  6. what was the first ig song you ever heard?
  7. when did you see your first ig concert?
  8. how many ig concerts have you been to?
  9. how many bootlegs do you guestimate to have?
10. who are your top three favorite musicians/groups besides ig?

okay, that ought to do it. please do not send these back to the list, but
do send them via private mail to me.
  peace,
         sharoane

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 00:50:26 -0400
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i was at the penobscot show ansd left my poster (beautifully signed et. all)
right there! (collective doh! understood) my fave momento? hmmm...i got a
signed rop tour shirt which i wore till it was unwearable - then got
myhonortheearth shirt signed....

mike r.

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hi y'all,
i've been off the list for the past couple of weeks cos i've been studying
hard for my semesters. and let me tell you, i've missed my indigo girls
mailing list emails.  i'm glad i'm back on line:) can some kind soul
please email me privately with any of the goss or details of when they
were on the dave letterman show or any info that has happened in the last
few weeks that may be of interest.
thank you in advance to all you pretty indigo petals,

anne
a+e=ig

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hey yall -
so tonight i go to this outside kinda party...like one that the radio
station puts on...i walk in and meet up w a friend when i hear 'i went
to the mountains...' (you know the rest...) - but i thought 'hey,
everythings gonna be ok tonight...'  it was comforting to hear but it
was like everyone else was so *duh* to what was going on!  and then
later this other band (4 guys!) sang 'shame on you' (local band) - it
was pretty good...interesting...i was just psyched that 'my kinda
music' was being played - and i was dancing...later in the night -
(same band different venue) played 'shame on you' again only invited
this woman up to sing w them...and she was ok - but she changed
'beautiful ladies walk right by and i never know what to say' to
'beautiful men...' - i mean i sorta was like 'hey!' ya know?  (ok im
getting a little possessive...ha - ) but no really...it was nice in a
way to hear someone sing ig - but at the same time *weird* -

at the same time - if ig were to cover a song...(like 'blister in the
sun' or whatever...) i think they *rock* and i often times like *them*
over the original musician...*ahem* double standards...what can ya do?

anyhoo - have a great weekend...just wanted to share my ig moment
tonight...

take it easy,
sunny


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hey. i posted a few months ago about a local atlanta movie called "inn
trouble" with cooper seay in it. well for those of you who inquired about
it, i saw it for sale the other day at our local feminist store. if you
want a copy, let me know.
                                                christy :)

"may the force of emily be with you :)"
                        carolyn turett

"i want nothing but quiet and an active brain."
                        virginia woolf

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hey folks,

i thought i'd post this... this is the second part of the curve
interview with amy, from the march 1998 issue of curve magazine
(thanks leslie :).

-sherlyn

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basking in the indiglow
by shirley liu
photography by susan alzner

with each stirring song and tough political stance, amy ray and
emily saliers have touched our hearts and brought us all a little
closer to fine.  in the last issue of curve, amy talked with
assistant editor shirley liu about coming out, her relationship
with emily and the honor the earth tour.  now the conversation
continues, as amy discusses the lesbian community and our culture,
the girls' new activism with the zapatistas, and the folks who
inspire their passionate words and sounds.

* do you have any opinions on the new highly visible, more
widely-accepted lesbian culture?

you mean like ellen?

* yeah, the single-name people like ellen, k.d., melissa,
martina...

[laughs] i love lesbians.  that's funny.  people start calling
you by first names; it's very familiar, you know?  i like it.  i
had this construction guy over at my house and he was trying to
bond with me, so he told me he loved ellen.  i looked at him and
i thought, "this is great," because ellen is a point of context
for everybody.

anything that's helping the mainstream see things more clearly
and be more open-minded is great.  i don't look deeper into that
and worry it might be hurting us in the long run; i don't see how
anybody could feel that way about it.  i don't think it's
homogenizing lesbianism; people tend to homogenize things
themselves in their minds.  they put things into categories and
stereotype them and it takes a while for people to evolve and
figure it all out.

it's similar to when people talk about the indians - they think
it's one big tribe.  i can get frustrated about that or i can
think that the first thing to do is to open their minds up to it,
and then teach them that there are five hundered different tribes.

the same thing exists with gay issues.  we should open people's
minds to the fact that gay people exist and then to the fact that
we're all different from each other - that there are republican
gays and democratic gays and independents, that there are some
gays who like porn and s/m and some who don't.  we're all
different people, but the one thing that we're all fighting for
is the right to sleep with who we want to.

* are there any particularly influential people in your life?

god, there are so many.  the people that influence us the most,
emily and me, do so on a day-to-day basis.  most are activists,
from environmental to gay rights.  people that are doing
hands-on work and fighting battles are the people that influence
me the most.  i usually just sit there anre listen to eveything
they say and try to learn it all.

* in the august 1997 spin article on ani difranco, it said that
you two felt that the lilith fair wasn't pushing the envelope
enough.  what exactly did you mean by that?

the style of music.  there were no punk bands, black bands or
world music.  on the second stages, there were some, but at the
time i was speaking, i was talking about the main stages.  after
talking to sarah about it, i found out that she did make an
effort to get people from the punk and alternative communities
but wasn't successful.  i don't know if she could have tried
harder.

when you look at the main acts, like sheryl crow and jewel, they
have radio hits that make them seem a certain way.  then you see
them perform and realize how diverse and incredibly gifted they
are.

you *need* to see the different dimensions of women because women
tend to stereotype and be sexist about other women.  we say, "ah,
she's blonde, she can't really do it."  things like that are
really bad, really negative.

i think lilith showed people that yeah, these artists have had
big hits and mainstream success, but give them a chance to see
how diverse they are.  so that's what i learned from the tour -
that yeah, maybe there aren't punk bands and maybe sarah didn't
get a good soul act, but she did show us that artists like jewel
and sheryl crow are gifted and versatile.

i do think that lilith needs to be more radical though.  at the
press conferences, there was a tendency at first to shy away from
calling it feminist.  but i was like, "look, i don't mind being
specified by gender; i'm proud to be a woman."  i don't consider
it a ghettoization.  i can't separate being gay or being a woman
from anything that i do, because it influences everything i do.
by the end of the tour, i think sarah came around to that too.
she was being much more outspoken about it.  it was cool to see
that evolution.

* do you see lilith evolving that wya in the future?

yeah, now that lilith has more clout too, it's probably going to
be easier to get sleater-kinney or tlc.  or *queen latifah*!!
you know, she's hard to get.  i've asked her to do stuff for me
and she doesn't respond.  i don't think it's her fault though.

when i put together the honor the earth cd, i called every band i
could think of from the black community.  no one responded.  it
wasn't because the black community doesn't want to support it, it
was because there are barriers.  we have to continuously work to
break them down.

* what do you think those barriers are?

it hasn't been that long since everything was so segregated, and
it still is.  i think that we put up barriers and they put them up
and we both need to work on it.  i don't think it's malicious
though; it takes time, you know.

* can you talk about your involvement with the zapatistas [mexican
rebel fighters]?

we funded a program through honor the earth in 1995 that supported
a women's art co-op.  these women are comandantes (commanders) in
the zapatista army.  they needed to stockpile and store supplies
for their art, textile, weaving - the things they do to bring some
money into their village.

before, they would make continuous trips to other villages and the
main town to buy supplies.  they would be harassed by the mexican
military, which is stationed in that area all over the place.
women were raped and verbally abused; they'd have to go through a
lot just to get their art supplies.  basically, we funded this
project to build a place to stockpile everything so they wouldn't
have to make so many trips.

when i went down there to meet these women, it was an incredibly
eye-opening experience.  at the time, there was an international
conference going on that was hosted by the zapatistas.  they had
five different locations in the rainforest and you went to whatever
location was talking about the issue important to you.  so i went
to the "women's table."  in this particular village, they talked
about women's issues and how women had been affected by nafta.
people from all over the world talked about women's issues in their
own countries.  they also dealt with gay rights.

* really?

yeah, i was sitting there in the middle of the jungle in this
meeting on gay issues hosted by the zapatistas.  it was fascinating
to me!

* what did they have to say?

different people from different countries talked about the
disenfranchisement caused by nafta and the people who are affected.
gay people are included because as cultures become homogenized, the
profit-ridden companies become very powerful; gay issues become
less important and tolerance goes down.

they also talked about how in traditional communities, gay people
are accepted much more than they are in colonized societies.  i've
experienced traditional communities (like the indian community)
where it was so open-minded.  and then i would go into areas that
had been destroyed by colonization, where the people were just
down-trodden with suffering, and there was much less tolerance.

* why do you think that is?

traditional values in the indian community are based on something
much more accepting.  they have a place for people in their
community who are different from other people.  there's no room
for that in an industrialized society; i think it's because of
god and the church, probably a lot of it is christianity.  but my
experience is the more traditional the commnity, the more
open-minded.

emily and i went down [to chiapas] recently.  we hung out for a
few days and met with different comandantes and learned as much as
we could about the situation.  every single day, the mexican
military would drive through the village with giant tanks and
machine guns pointed at everybody.

* for the intimidation factor?

yeah.  the thing that really hit home was i realized that my tax
dollars were probably paying for this.  mexico and america have a
very close relationship - we fund a lot of their military activity
and call it "drug wars."  but our government's just protecting
corporate interests.  there's a group emily and i work with called
the national commission for democracy in mexico located in el paso,
texas, if people are interested in learning more.

* how do you educate yourself on all these different issues?

sometimes i find things out from people in the audience who send me
booklets or send stuff up to the stage, or from other bands.  i go
to environmental conferences now and then and find out who's doing
what.  greenpeace is a really good resource.  and honor the earth
is a network, so basically, all the different indian communities
report to us on what's going on.  i read the nation magazine.  i
spend a lot of my time reading.

* in the midst of all this activism and creating music, what do you
do in down time?

daemon, my record label, takes a lot of my time.  and i hike a lot
and spend a lot of time outside.  i kayak, canoe and montain bike.
i really enjoy outdoorsy, mountainy sporting activities; that's what
i do during *real* down time.  it's always in the woods.  i don't
socialize much actually.  i'm sort of a hermit at heart.

* you were signed in 1988, so it's been ten years.  any thoughts?

[laughs] how much longer is this contract?!  no, i love epic.  emily
and i keep having the "what's going to happen when our contract's
up?" thoughts.  should we go independent or stay on a major label?
we have three more albums left to do, so we're fine.  we love our
company; they don't have any agenda for us.  they're just like, "you
gals go do what you need to do and we'll support it."

* do you have anything to say to your lesbian fans and lesbian
readers?  any final parting words?

[laughs] oh god... you know, people in the lesbian community move
from one relationship to the next without sitting back and taking
time to figure out what's going on with themselves - jumping from
one thing to the next.

* a continuum...

i would advise against a continuum.  [laughs] but i would advise
against that continuum in the heterosexual world too - i just don't
know if it exists because i'm not in that world.  i would advise
against the continuum, but i would still suggest watching star trek
and the x-files. [laughs]


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    it's all about faith, so don't give up on me,
    it's all about trust..."            - abra moore

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in a message dated 98-06-07 19:10:56 edt, mel writes:

<< newport folk summer 98 tour dates (with on sale dates)
------------------------------------------------------

thu 30 jul  atlanta, ga        lakewood amph  (sale: sat 13 jun) >>

this date went on sale yesterday, june 12.  (sorry to just now post this, but
i've been out of town and just got re-subscribed to the list)   thrilled to
have second row seats!!

even more off topic...anyone else going to wendy bucklew's cd release party
next friday at the cotton club in atlanta?

rebecca

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reply-to:     rick hodgin <foxmuldr@indy.net>
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i originally read this subject at the head of the digest and thought "yes!
we're all finally going to get together and have a jam session!" because
i thought "get together" and "guitar" were pretty good clues. :)

then i read the contents and i'm like doh!  hehehe :)  oh well.  it was
a good idea when i read it.  maybe someday. :)

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i was wondering if anyone knows what the schedule will be for the fleadh
festival tomorow, like which aritsts are playing when--specicifically ig?
or does anyone know where i can get the schedule? i tried going to the
fleadh website and they don't have anything listed. anyway, if anyone know
could you possibly e-mail me back at:

cch211@is8.nyu.edu  (address all lowercase)

thank you very much and take care,
chloe

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subject:      momento

i have quite a few things, but i guess my most prized item
is a photo.  a photographer sold me a bunch of photos
she snapped of a+e that have never been published
and i have some great shots of a+e the moment
after they won their grammy in feb. 1990 for best
contemporary folk recording.

they are standing in front of the grammy backdrop
holding their awards.  they are smiling and holding
their awards but they look a bit overwhelmed.

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hello daemon fans.  the dug trivia game for june is up!  this month we
are featuring danielle howle and the tantrums.  a fabulous, signed photo
of danielle is among this month's prize pack.  to play, go to
www.daemonunderground.com

flyer queen  =)

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 11:09:13 edt
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in a message dated 98-06-12 21:29:13 edt, you write:

<< here's a question to all on the list:  what is the most prized indigo girls
momento that you posess??  an autographed picture, a personal a or e item,
etc...?? >>
oooh,  this is a good question!  i have two - my wood cover 1200 curfews promo
disc and the copy of daughters of the moon, sisters of the sun signed to me by
a & e (thanks mel!)

peace,

pam

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 10:55:50 -0400
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well i have only been to two ig concerts, my third one coming up in
aug...but even so i don't think my momento is something physical...
the first time i saw them was at the lilith fair in scranton, pa last
year...a friend and i had managed to sneak into the "good" seats *heh* and
it had started raining and the girls were up there singing and me and a
gropup of people around me were all singing and laughing and jumping
around in the rain...it was so envigorating!!!  it lifted my soul...it was
amazing! :)

that's my momento.

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                        but my heart is wired." - ani difranco
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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 11:16:39 -0000
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mine isn't an object, but would be at the lillith fair when amy ray walked
right past me and my mom. didn't manage to get a picture, but i can still
picture it in my head which is good enough for me. <missy

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 11:48:25 -0400
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i'd ahve to say that it's my signed import.  i had them sign it when it
met them last year before lilith fair.  ya know, everytime i look at it, i
just remember how awesome it was to actually meet them and actually talk
to them...

i think that a close second would be the setlist that i got at the
columbus show.  i have set lists from the columbus show and from the
lexington show (and i am getting one from the apple frams show!), but that
was my first original setlist.

now all i have to do is get one of my etlists signed and i'll be all
set...  damn i wanna meet them again!

:-) karen

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mine is em's pick from my first ig concert...(well, my only ig concert so far,
but i'm going to lilith...) i was about to climb over the fence in front of
me, but the usher got it for me...:)

pax, celeste:)

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1. how old are you?
   13
2. how long have you been on this list? (date of signing or actual
day/week/month/year)
   ?? a few weeks, but i was on it befor for about a month...
3. what state do you live in?
    california
4. what do you do for a living? (student is a valid choice here, i oughta
know)
    student
5. what is your favorite ig album?
    ha!!!!
6. what was the first ig song you ever heard?
    galileo, but the one that made me want to listen more was power of two
7. when did you see your first ig concert?
    january 29, 1998 i think ( the best night of my life...)
8. how many ig concerts have you been to?
    1
9. how many bootlegs do you guestimate to have?
   1

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hey y'all,

today may be my lucky day.  i made a list of about 30 record stores to call
from the phone book and this morning i was determined to find shed your
skin and the ep.  so i call the first place and the guy says "yeah, we got
them both.  they're promos that we don't usually sell, but i'll sell them
to ya for 3 bucks each."  needless to say i was pumped!!!  i just wanted to
thank who ever it was that posted the instructions on how to get a copy.
they inspired me to do it.  they are out there people...just go get em!!!!

take care
rob
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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 13:19:17 -0600
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i have two extra copies of cmj with the cd sampler (and the store had 7
more copies).  so, if you can't find it in your area, let me know.

-garian

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hey everyone,

my most prized indigo momento is a vinyl copy of the ep (1986), signed
by amy, emily, mm, and the woman who played bass on that album whose
name is escaping me right now.  it's previous owner was a waitress at
little five points.  i bought it from the now evil rdr and it was
expensive but it was before i was on the list and understood the
meaning of bootlegs.  i was dying to hear some of the ig early
material like lifeblood.  the album is so sweet with handwritten
lyrics and a handwritten note apologizing for some defective records.
it's a chance for us late-bloomer fans to be a part of the growth of
the ig from a bar band into a major player in the music industry.  the
bottom line is i just get a bloody kick out of it.  (p.s. watch your
backs bulls fans you're entering hostile territory, karl malone get
out your family size can of whup-ass!)

later,
diana

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sometime in early 1990 i had written a letter to a&e.  i received hand-
written, personal responses from each of them!  amy's (postmarked 10 jul 90)
was a wild random note with a drawing of a big guitar with a peace sign in the
middle.  emily's (postmarked 16 jul 90) was more like a letter from an old
friend.

i've seen them about 20 times since 1989.  my ultimate ig experience was was
on my birthday (12/4/90) at the beacon theatre in nyc.  friends of mine gave
me front row seats for the show (em's side) and took me backstage to meet them
afterwards.  after crazy game (5th song), my friends threw balloons and hats
on the stage.  the following is what i can make out from the bootleg:
     e:   whose b-day is it?
     a:   it must be somebody's, um, b-day i guess!
     my friends:  it's susan's!!  (i stood up and waved at everyone)
     e:   happy birthday!!
     e:   thanks!  (for the hats)
           *pop*  (balloon popping on stage)
     e:   who did that?!?
     a:   alright, that's enough of that stuff.
     e:   don't do that, it scares the shit out of me!
     a:   ...slipped right back into that southern drawl in no time...
            "y'all don't do that, it scares the sheeeeit out of me!!"
then they started playing kid fears.  backstage i was able to get a picture
with amy and spoke with her the most.  i did get to speak with emily, just not
as long.  the momentos are but a small reminder of just how amazing that whole
night was.
i was on an emotional high for weeks, and i'm sure i won't be able to top that
one!  it's almost impossible to get front row seats now.

i have lots of stuff which i treasure, but time spent with them and seeing
them perform is what means the most to me.  i definitely miss the way things
used to be!

peace,
~susan

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hey ig-heads,

my friend who works for sony music just got me 2 great cd's...2 different sys
ep's.  the song list is listed below:

ep #1
1)  sys (album version)
2)  sys (live)
3)  sys (tom morello remix)
4)  get out the map (live)
5)  shame on you (live)

ep#2
1)  sys (t. morello mix)
2)  get out the map (live)
3)  shame on you  (live)
4)  eiiot (live)
5) blister in the sun (live)
6)  sys (live)

i am forever in debt to my friend!


just thought i'd share.

brian

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 17:54:01 edt
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hello, all! =)
      nmic?  not much important content. ;)  where shall i begin?  well,
first, i'm still taking orders for those bumper stickers (not the a+e=ig ones)
and have a list that i'll be more than happy to forward to you if you'd like
to place an order or if you'd just like to read them.  i already sent out the
orders from the first round, but i've gotten a couple more orders so i'm doing
it all again.  next, i know this sounds odd, but if anyone out there has any
fact or opinion to share about marijuana, i'm interested.  facts are better
than opinions in this case, but i'd like to gather more information in
general.  there's a purpose, i'd just rather not get into it right now...
also, i have quite a stock of things up for grabs. i have a couple of copies
of the "curve" magazine featuring michelle malone left over and some of last
year's "atlanta" magazines with the amy ray article.  also, the 99x locals
only cd with michelle on it doing "all my lifetime" and the 99x live x cd
featuring "shame on you".  let me know if you need all or any of the above.
and if i ordered bumper stickers for you and haven't received the money yet
the stickers are going to go up for grabs soon, just so you know. =)  anyhow,
i think that's it for this time around! =)  i'll talk to you soon! =)  peace,
love, and butter biscuits, sarah

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*crying* i hate computer so damn much...
i was moving all my indigo girls boots to their own page cut 'em off wbs
and copied it all into word pad. i didn't save it cuz i was just going
to put it right into the new thing so it didn't matter..so i thought...
word pad decided to preform an illegal operation as  iwas trying to copy
and paste it and i lost it all..all 30+ indigo girls boots i had down,
and the html (which was too much to begin with, i hated doing it the
first time) not to mention the fact i had to get up early (6am!) and
take the freaking act..this is the worst day of my life..

lamia

ps if you wanted to go see any of my boots forget it i don[t know how
long it's going to take to get the indigo portion working again...

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 09:57:41 -0400
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okay, so, i went on a mission to the scary streets of clifton yesterday,
visited 5 cd stores, and got both the red and blue copies!  $4.99 each,
too.  plus i got sinead lohan's cd (it's wonderful) and danielle howle's
live at the mckissick museum for $4 each!  and a tape single of sarah
mclachlan singing "good enough" and joni mitchell's "blue" for .25.  yay.
anyway, to the point of this post...while listening to the ep and sys
singles, i realized i much much prefer just amy and emily and their
guitars (or whatever instruments they're playing...banjo, mandolin...)
to them with a band.  i mean, jerry and sara are of course amazing
players, but i just prefer the stripped down sound of acoustic instruments
and voices.  that's one reason why i enjoyed appel farm so much - i just
love to see how much sound they can get out of their guitars and how rich
and full a sound they have.  what does everyone else think?  just them,
or them with a bassist and a drummer?
                             just curious,
                              stephanie
stephanie lynne merhar
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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 21:21:33 edt
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well, the concert i went to was just them, and it was incredible...but then
again they can't do songs like tangled up in blue...;)

pax, celeste:)

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 21:42:45 edt
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could someone send me the addy to mail to for the bumper stickers? (the a+e=ig
one) i deleted it.

thanx, celeste:)

p.s. who do i make a check out to?

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 18:47:31 pdt
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stephanie wrote:
  what does everyone else think?  just them, or them with a bassist and
a drummer?

i think jerry and sara add a lot too it..some song are great just them
but i really prefer the band type of sound!

*hugs*

lamia
*who will not have a nervous breakdown tonight lord-willing*

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 22:20:09 edt
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hi y'all!

my most prized indigo moment(o) is both a momento that is even more meaningful
because of the experience i had at that concert.  back in '91 amy and emily
played at a small outdoor venue in cleveland and i was one of the fortunate
ones to get a yellow ig guitar pick after.  what was even more special was my
gf and i waited after with a small group of women to see if we could catch a
glimpse of amy and emily.  after a long while, they came out and walked right
out to talk to all of us - it was amazingly incredible.  they were so down to
earth, giving hugs, signing autographs, letting us take photos and i felt like
a 13 year old again - i mean, here were my idols and you know, they were just
regular people with an incredible talent and the opportunity to spread their
message to all who cared to listen.  my gf is no longer my gf - but she's
still my best friend and we spent that summer listening to the indigo girls
before she moved to kentucky.  so i have extremely warm and fuzzy memories
every time i pull out that guitar pick.

leslie

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 19:36:18 pdt
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ok ya'll i think this is hillarious but then i've had little sleep..
i can't take credit for it, it was originally written by
from jbhoward@email.unc.edu sat dec 17 02:31:05 pst 1994
sent to a tori list, i found it on a webpage and changed the details..so
they'd fit! i take no credit for anything but changin the details!!!


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
you see, i have become sick of reading the same exact review of indigo
girls concerts over and over, with only the signature changed. so to
save everyone time, i have come up with a standardized indigo girls
concert review form letter. simply fill in the blanks to make it
personalized.

-----generic indigo girls concert form letter-----

well folks, i just got back from seeing the girls at [concert location]
for the [# of times] time. it was amazing.

they told lots of wonderful stories, they were all so heartfelt and
funny. they are really a nice people.
i was sitting in the [nosebleed row #] so i couldn't really hear what
they were saying, but hey, it's amy and emily, so i clapped and laughed
and yelled like a wild [gender] whenever they would deliver the
[punchline/deep thought ending].

emily started to play leeds and said something like "i'm a really good
piano player" and everyone started laughing but i don't know what she
was talking about. did i mention i am [sexually repressed and/or still
living with my parents]?

they played [list every song even though we all know they play the exact
same thing every show] and they were wonderful, but i was kind of
disappointed when they didn't play [obscure emily song that i played
over and over for 31 hours straight after my [boy/girl] friend dumped
me].

they were talking to the audience as if we were all close friends of
theirs, and even though i was in [nosebleed row#] and amy was about the
size of an ant, i felt like she was staring right at me. of course, i
think everyone is looking at me most of the time.

then, amy whispered something in emily's ear, and turned and faced the
audience, and everyone suddenly became very quiet, because we all knew
we were about to experience the religious experience of longing and love
known as romeo & juliet. all the women in the audience suddenly became
giddy and looked at their dates with scorn and murmured "shut up and
listen, asshole."
amy sang the words with [intensity/longing/strength/a sense of loss] and
i heard people all around me wimpering and whispering amy..amy... just
as the audience was at the height of amy's hypnotic performance, some
[guy/girl] in the balcony stood up and yelled [i love you amy!!/go
amy!!/are you sure you and em aren't an item??/do you think ellen's
hot??] and was immediately jumped by 20 rabid feminists who pummled
[him/her] to death.

they continued the rest of the show, wonderful as ever, and finally came
back for [one/two] encores, which were [we all know, they're the same
every time but i'll tell you anyway].

my friends and i rushed backstage, knocking over several smaller fans as
we made our way to the exit that amy & emily would leave via. there was
already a crowd of unattractive girls there, waiting around for their
arrival. then a security guy walked out, who looks just like a ken doll.
he told us that they wouldn't be able to sign any autographs because
[they're tired/they're in a bad mood/they're sick].
so we all stood around anyway, and when they  came out we all tried to
rush them. the security guy pushed us all back, and we were all shouting
"we love you amy, emily!!!" emily looked at us, made a gesture with her
shoulders that said "i'm sorry, they are making me leave, i can't help
it!"

feeling really desperate, i jumped through the line clutching my
[poem/song/drawing/love letter/obsessive-fan-stalking-threatening
note-written-with-letter-clippings-from-magazines-describing
exactly-what-i want-to-do-to-amy] and threw it at her. she caught it,
swore she would look at it as soon as she could, and i nearly exploded
with happiness.

as their bus pulled away, i stood there with 50 other girls who shared
one thing: we didn't need men to make us happy, we didn't have to be
attractive to feel confident, and we knew listening to indigo girls
music 24 hours a day would eventually help us overcome our individual
traumas.


-----end of standard indigo girls concert review form-----


sorry if this offends anyone i thought it was just hillarious!

*hugs*

lamia

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 23:15:07 -0400
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i don't have any really exciting ig stuff, but i guess my most prized is either
the broken guitar string of amy's that i have or the ticket stubs that i have that
were signed by amy.

sharon

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 23:21:07 -0400
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i know the 700 club is rediculous, but as i was driving down to beantown,
and since today was supposed to be pride for boston, this whole scenario
completely took a very realistic turn as routes 1, 128 , and a whole mess of
other routes were flooded, the boston subway system closed , generally
making life difficult in the boston area....coincidence? who the heck knows,
it is wierd though.

igc - besides guinness fleadh (me and fran are going!) i got a cool tour of
winthrop - the same town where the song emily sings about (yes there is a
coffee shop called hi-tides, i *came very close* to taking a picture of the
awning - i want to get a napkin or something - another momento? perhaps.) we
also saw the beach and the place where emily talks about the planes landing
and leaving --- the dimentions to the song are unreal...i seriously think by
the end of the summer there will be an illustrated guide to the places in
winthrop you need to see if you like the ig (or if you stay with friends who
live there...)

peace - iuf you see a disabled guy with an '97 hte tour shirt signed on the
back by amy+em weaing a black baseball hat (in the amex vip tent) - say hi!
peace -
(the aforementioned guy will be having a heartattack when tracy chapman
takes the stage....8^)
mike r.

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 20:30:17 pdt
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gotta say it...gotta say it...gotta say it. :)  seein' amy and emily
without jerry and sara was an amazing experience to say the least.  i
know some of y'all have been lucky enough to see them alone on more than
one occasion (yeah, i'm talkin' 'bout you melissa :), and i just think
that kicks.
the very *wet* carlisle, pa show was the first time i had ever seen a &
e alone and it was absolutely unreal...almost a reminder of their
beginnings.  i just thought it was so happenin' that i was able to see
them in their "original" state...(granted, it's not that same as those
lucky dudes and dudettes that witnessed the uptown frickin' lounge
taping, but hey...it's all good).  they had the occasional guest (sandy
garfinkle, who until then had *always* been a chick in (*bethany's*
world...silly me), but all in all, it was totally them. just the essence
of two women, two guitars (or banjos, or mandolins...heh heh!), and two
voices.  that's how it should be, man.
though i appreciate the talents of jerry (leopard print shirt
man...uncle jer?! :) and sara (scary shoe woman), it was great to see
them together and "in their element," so to speak. :) just the two of
them connecting on this musical level...you know, playin' to their own
dang rhythm, letting their guitars carry their voices, and just havin' a
virtual hootenanny.  the rawness of such an experience is almost
dreamlike.  again, i enjoy j & s, but i feel that it sometimes takes
away from the natural beauty of the girls. everyone should have such an
opportunity. :) i feel very lucky to have had it myself. ;)
yikes...i guess this is my lengthy post for the week. :)  i'm gonna be
all cheesy here, but my most prized indigo possession would have to be
my entire musical collection...(including boots, c.d.'s, etc...).  i
could say that the most important item is my little fraze pavillion
program with ms. ray's sig, but ya' know...it's not.  i feel very lucky
to have met her, but seein' her in person doesn't compare to the way her
music makes me feel.  that sounds absolutely frigged, but it's true.
did y'all ever stop to think how lucky we are to be alive during this
i.g. era?! so many people years from now probably won't even know that
they missed out on something so great.  shit!  that's absolutely
unbelievable to me.  the i.g. experience in general is enough to keep me
happy.  hmmm...so, my prized possession...their music, and my luck in
bein' born to experience this. hell yeah. :)
okay...i'm done now.

toodles,
bethany :)

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mine has to be the shaming of the sun promo calendar that amy and sara lee
autographed.  i've been to one girls concert in my entire life
(underprivileged me), but what an experience!!!! (as those who were on the
list at the time can attest.)  :o)

well, i'm off to wash the coconut scent of spf 4 off.... a day on a sailboat
can make one very salty and sticky and coconutty.  :o)

peace y'all

~~tigger (the freaky one with the boat named after a brown-haired goddess)

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hey folks,

i found this on rocktropolis (http://www.rocktropolis.com).

-sherlyn

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the clash tribute album pushed to '99; live disc up first
third eye blind to cover 'train in vain'

clash fans will have to wait a little bit longer for the
highly-anticipated tribute album to the band.  the album --
whose once-simple title of clash tribute album looks to be
changing -- has been taken off the aug. 25 release schedule
at epic records and pushed back to a first quarter of 1999
release. why? well, epic plans to release the clash live
album that joe strummer has been working on first, followed
by the star-studded tribute set. while the live disc
doensn't have a track listing or title yet, epic hopes to
have it out in october.

though the clash tribute album is pretty much in the can,
third eye blind has now added a track. contrary to what
lead singer stephan jenkins said to mtv's carson daly on
thursday (june 11), the band is recording one of the
clash's most successful and well-known songs, "train in
vain (stand by me)." thursday night's mtv show was taped
about a week ago, and this is what jenkins had to say about
their plans for the clash album: "we wanted to do 'straight
to hell' but the indigo girls are doing it [ed. note:
heather nova and moby are actually recording it]... they
asked us to do 'train in vain,' but everyone knows that one
so we wanted to do something more obscure... we're doing
'somebody got murdered.'" not anymore.

as previously reported in allstar, the tribute album also
includes rancid, korn with ice cube and mack 10, 311,
silverchair, mighty mighty bosstones, as well as no doubt,
mxpx, the urge, face to face, unwritten law, cracker, and
others.


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every time i needed it, the magic always found me.
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sorry, but sarah, i tried replying but i keep getting my mail back..i just
wanted to make sure you got my check for the bumper stickers..thanksxy

                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
                                   jeanette
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                everything that i believe is wrong with you
                            is wrong with me
                everything i truly love, i love in you and
                            i love in me
                                            ** amy ray
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in a message dated 98-06-13 23:42:53 edt, you write:

<< obsessive-fan-stalking-threatening
  note-written-with-letter-clippings-from-magazines-describing
  exactly-what-i want-to-do-to-amy >>


oh! um,...oops, you, you mean that's a bad thing, eh *grin*. but she said she
would read it, she did, really!! i, i know she meant it!!  she looked at me ,
right at me! i'm expecting a reply any day now!

-ok, ok, not really, i'm not obessesed, despite what my therapist says-

well! i'm off to rearange the pictures of amy on my wall!
bye!
val

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hi everyone! listen, i unsubbed from the list a coupla days ago coz i'm
on holidays in america at the moment (i'm from australia :)... anyway,
i'm in new jersey and i read on the net that ig are playing on the 14th
in ny (randall's island).. i would totally love to go to this.. so, if
anyone wants to go with me.. or someone has a spare ticket, or someone
simply *knows* how i could possibly get tickets i'd love to hear from
you!!! :) please email me privately at this address (
melanie33@hotmail.com) or carrots_@hotmail.com  as i'm not on the list
anymore..

thanks so much!

love melanie :)

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oopsy. forgot to add this to my long arsed message. the "clash tribute
album" post joggled my brain and reminded me...
though i'm not all that familiar shawn colvin's music, i know some of
y'all are, so i thought i'd pass the info. along.  i stumbled upon a
fleetwood mac tribute album  a few days ago, and she is one of the
contributors.  i thought that was wicked because, well...i absolutely
*dig* fleetwood mac.  i *think* she did "the chain," but i honestly
can't remember.  anyway...hope that's useful to those of you who are
into shawn.

lataaaah indigataaahs
bethany :)
(does *anyone* have tab to "carry me away" *yet?!* i'm dyin here!)

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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 22:34:48 -0600
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subject:      guinness fleadh new york city, part i
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day 1 of the new york city guinness fleadh is now over.  the morning
began early (10am) with a horrendous rainstorm.  the rainy conditions
kept many away and the crowds were small.

i caught a number of acts including:
rogue's march
great big sea (incredible!!!)
clancy brothers
dar williams (more on this later)
susan mckeown (good)
squeeze
chumbawamba (a bit of a letdown i must admit)
mary black
the saw doctors (a bit of violence in the crowd)
the chieftains (with the harlem gospel choir)
sinead o'connor

first off, the programs they sold for $10 were printed weeks ago.  so
there is bound to be some change ups.  first thing i did was checked in
with friendly security guard and found out they had a new schedule.
while he had his back turned, i casually "liberated" one of his copies.
at the last minute dar willaims was moved from a smaller stage to the
main stage.  many fans hadn't gotten the word.  her set was good, but
seemed a little hurried and short.  it was a very small intimate crowd.
lots of fun!!!!!!!  i'd post her set list, but i'm rather ashamed that i
don't know her music all that well.

great big sea did a wonderful cover of rem's "it's the end of the world
as we know it".
i unfortunately missed nanci griffith's set to see sinead.  it would be
interesting to see if she would do any of the songs off "flyer" that ig
did backing vocals on.
also had a brief conversation with eileen ivers (she will perform
tomorrow...sunday) about what it's like to be on the fleadh.  she
absolutely loves it!!!!!

for those who care, sinead's set was:
emporer's new clothes
thief of your heart
stretched on your grave
my hard englishman
jackie-o
a song she had wrote with danny her accompanying woodwind player
nothing compares 2 u
4 my love
fire on babylon
last day of our acquittance
he/she moved through the fair (take your pick on the accurate title)

it was a great tight set.  including the two young junior high girls who
shoved their way to the front screaming, "we love you sinead" at all the
wrong moments.  and who could forget the nice young gentlemen next to us
who kept telling everyone that sinead was his sister (which would be
interesting....because let's just say their heritages come from different
continents).

hmv had a store there.  they were selling nos, self titled, 1200 c's,
sots, and the watershed video.  i did not see so or rop.  i got a little
nosy and spoke with the manager of the hmv tent.  he mentioned that the
guinness fleadh organizers have considered putting out a live cd like
levi's fair (oops, lilith fair...but who can tell these days).  no doubt
ig will be a part of that one.

while snooping around the back of hmv and over near the vip areas, i'm
absolutely positive i saw amy walking around with another young woman
whom i didn't recognize.  they were just chatting and laughing.  amy in
black pants and boots holding umbrella (it was raining all day).  i also
saw a fan there (in black tshirt, short haircut with long braid) who
looks exactly like amy!!!!!  amazing.  no news on the emily
front...sorry.

on tap tomorrow (besides more guinness), is seeing:
greg garing
too cynical to cry
capercaille
eileen ivers band
altan
patti smith
tracy chapman
and none other than our indigo girls

i will post part ii tomorrow.  part iii should also come tomorrow and it
will include an overall wrap up from the event, in addition to the bio
that they printed up about the girls.  if interested, i can possibly type
up the bios for other artists (but that is low priority on my list right
now).

for those who have ordered postcards with me, shipments will begin on
monday (after the festival) and after i have received your sase mailer
(sorry offer is already closed to new orders).

one last thing, for those in nyc area who might have booted the event,
i'm willing/interested in trading for any and all acts from the fleadh.

best wishes,

l'sly

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i love me a survey!


1. how old are you?
34
2. how long have you been on this list? (date of signing or actual
day/week/month/year)
   almost a year (sorry, i have a hard time remembering my girlfriend's
birthday, never mind the actual date i signed onto this list!)
3. what state do you live in?
    florida
4. what do you do for a living? (student is a valid choice here, i oughta
know)
    newspaper reporter and freelance music writer.
5. what is your favorite ig album?
    tie: rites of passage (some of emily's best songwriting, i think) and
swamp opheilia(more good emily and pretty impressive amy songwriting:reunion,
fugitive, dead man's hill, touch me fall, this train...great stuff.)
6. what was the first ig song you ever heard?
    closer to fine
7. when did you see your first ig concert?
    the nomads tour. in new haven i believe
8. how many ig concerts have you been to?
    9
9. how many bootlegs do you guestimate to have?
   2

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just the essence
> of two women, two guitars (or banjos, or mandolins...heh heh!), and
two
> voices.  that's how it should be, man.

i totally agree...i love when amy and emily walk out on stage...and
its just them and their guitars...(or whatever they happen to be
playing) - its so *real*!  i have always loved that (in my eyes) amy
and emily are just these two amazing *women* who walk out on stage -
dressed like a 'regular' person - (i mean w/o all the 'extra' garb
that society teaches women they 'need'...) - and they just sing...and
their words speak to my heart...*sigh*  its like this
overwhelming/beautiful feeling - its like when i look at the
ocean...*ahh* i love it.  i feel so much peace inside...(ok sunny is
starting to get sappy...)...

my most prized inigo 'stuff' - well its actually just 'moments in
time' - its being in college and hanging w friends (around a keg o
beer) - talking and 'solving the problems of the world' - and
listening to ig...singing from our hearts...wind blowing in our
hair...w a midwestern skyline...*ah* beautiful!  ...and...its being at
a concert - and *knowing* youre feeling good inside...and that at that
moment - all is right w the world - and that everything is as it
should be - at that moment...and that it (life) couldnt be any more
'right' or 'perfect' than at that moment...and then you find yourself
looking back...to those midwestern nights...hanging w friends...and
singing...from our hearts...inspired by ig...*smiling*

if you made it this far...im glad...its nice to share these
thoughts/feelings...

take it easy -
sunny


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date:         sat, 13 jun 1998 23:25:38 -0700
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we really thought we wanted to go, but the fact is - this has just been too
crazy a month, and let's face it - we've seen ig 5 times in the past 2 years.
so, we are willing to let go of our own tickets to lilith fair, at the
gorge in
george in washington on saturday, june 20.  this is the sold out show, so
there
aren't many chances left to get tickets to this show - unless you're lucky
caller number whatever on your local radio station.

best part is, since we feel like folks on the ig list are family, we're going
to let go of these at our cost.

2 tickets, section a, row 26, seats 26 & 27. (emily side). $48.80 each -
exactly what we paid.

*1st offer gets 'em - but if you don't pick them up (or at least pay for them)
by tuesday, the 2nd person will get a shot at it.  we really want to let
someone else have the good ig time in george.

others playing that day:
        natalie merchant
        sara mclachlin
        erykah badu
        lhasa
        billie myers
          k's choice
        felicia loud
         sinead lohan
         tara maclean

do visit <http://www.lilithfair.com/>www.lilithfair.com for more info!

go fer it.

tracy & jeni - sticks in the mud.
tracy
with an improved web site at:
        http://www.bigfoot.com/~clumber

"we'll give the finger to those we pass on our way outta town..."
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we really thought we wanted to go, but the fact is - this has just been
too crazy a month, and let's face it - we've seen ig 5 times in the past
2 years.  so, we are willing to let go of our own tickets to lilith
fair, at the gorge in george in washington on saturday, june 20. 
this is the sold out show, so there aren't many chances left to get
tickets to this show - unless you're lucky caller number whatever on your
local radio station.<br>
<br>
best part is, since we feel like folks on the ig list are family, we're
going to let go of these at our cost.  <br>
<br>
2 tickets, section a, row 26, seats 26 & 27. (emily side). $48.80
each - exactly what we paid.<br>
<br>
*1st offer gets 'em - but if you don't pick them up (or at least pay for
them) by tuesday, the 2nd person will get a shot at it.  we really
want to let someone else have the good ig time in george.<br>
<br>
others playing that day:<br>
<x-tab>        </x-tab>natalie
merchant<br>
<x-tab>        </x-tab>sara
mclachlin<br>
<x-tab>        </x-tab>erykah
badu<br>
<x-tab>        </x-tab>lhasa
<br>
<x-tab>        </x-tab>billie
myers <br>
          k's choice <br>
<x-tab>       </x-tab>felicia loud
<br>
         sinead lohan <br>
         tara maclean <br>
<br>
do visit <a href="http://www.lilithfair.com/">www.lilithfair.com </a>for
more info!<br>
<br>
go fer it.<br>
<br>
tracy & jeni - sticks in the mud.<br>
<div>tracy</div>
<div> with an improved web site at:</div>
<div>
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<div>"we'll give the finger to those we pass on our way outta town..."</div>
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i aggree with steph, when i saw them at lehigh or wherever the last concert in
pa was that we had to stand outside in lightning, they sured proved they don't
need any "props".  i thought it was especially neat when they had us whistle
the penny whistle part of ctf

hugs,  karen

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well,  i'm off to my 2nd indigo girls concert ever, slam was my first.
hopefully it will not rain as hard as it did yesterday--it would be nice if it
didn't rain at all, actually.

i'm skipping lilith, so this might be my last ig concert for a while... :<

wmntime

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thanks for the survey, i feel like i have been lost on another planet without
my ig list.  i have been working too, too much. anyhoo,,,,

1.    on june 29th i will be 37 years old - oh my god.
my girlfriend, also a big ig fan, turned 39 on 02/13 - she still has more
silver hair than me. :)

2.    i think we have been on the list for a year, but i really have no idea.

3.    we live in the greatest dairy land state of them all, wisconsin.  we are
both transplants from chicago, il.   my partner spent her entire life there,
until moving to menomonee falls (near milwaukee), wi.  i however was born and
raised a hoosier until the age of 11, when my family moved to a suburb of
chicago.  i left home at 18 and became a real resident of chicago's north
side.

4.    i am an information services analyst - basically means that i provide
training to other team members and i troubleshoot all hardware and software
issues.  there's more but this is the most concise.

my partner, on the other hand, is an installations, technical consultant.
what that all means is that she is tech lead for year 2000 migrations at her
place of employ.  again, there is obviously more but.....

5.    our favorite album is the one to which we are currently listening.  in
other words staying in the moment.

as an aside, i should note that had so much difficulty deciding whose turn it
was to listen to 1200 curfew that we are now proud owners of our own copy.  :)

6.    for me it was first album.  it was rop.  it knocked my socks off.

7.    it was last year at the lilith fair in milwaukee.   i was horse
afterwards.

my partner than took me to their concert held in nov.? (one of the cold
months) last year.  it was even better than lilith..... they played longer.
too cool.

8.  we have been to 2 concerts, and are anxiously awaiting their next stop in
our neck of the woods.

9.  sorry, we don't have bootlegs - at least at the moment.

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date:         sun, 14 jun 1998 21:46:41 +1000
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hey all,

just a reminder folks, not to send your survey responses to the
list as a whole.  send them to sharon parker at sharoane@ime.net
instead.  make sure you don't accidentally reply to all and send
to the list as well...

ta,
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every time i needed it, the magic always found me.
and if i'm bound to all the world, all the world is bound to be..."
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hkf-

can someone who knows, email me about these songs covered by ig. they showed
up as wonderful filler on a bootleg i recently received:

it won't take long
letter to eve

who wrote them.
who originally recorded them.
what was the occasion (was it an event, or someone else's album) for the girls
covering either of them, or for the songs being written in the first place?
is it michael lorant singing with them on it won't take long.
who else is playing or singing with them on these songs.

they both sound like vintage activism songs, very intriguing. please tell me
if you know. thanks, leah

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hey kind friends-

bethany writes<<did y'all ever stop to think how lucky we are to be alive
during this i.g. era?! >>

good point. yes, thanks to her reminder, i'm again giving great thanks!

    writes<<i have a poster that i climbed a telephone pole in berkeley to get
back in
'90, my first ig show.>>

one of my favorite momentos is also a poster - i took mine down off the
boxoffice at geneseo, ny in november '97 on the night of the concert. i had
just finished chatting with the ig tour cooks who had set up the giant outdoor
bar-b-q, and was walking around campus a bit. i spotted this wonderful concert
poster with pictures and all. although it was made of very heavy bond, someone
had managed to carelessly slash it and i was so upset. i got it down off the
marquee, took it home, took it to a frame shop and they mounted it for me so
you can't even see the cuts. that was the night i got one of amy's used picks.
i had picks before, from off the microphone after the concert, but that was my
first one from amy and used so that the writing was all smudged. ahhhhh.....
looking forward to july 9th when i get to see them in canandaigua with my
favorite friends.

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date:         sun, 14 jun 1998 11:08:28 -0400
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hmm that's a toughie. be awares, im about to get sappy!

yeah, it's true, i have a signed fender, every cd and vinly pressing of all
the commerical releases autographed with personal messages, and my napkin
with jerry marotta's phone number written on the back ( he has a little
thing for me).....but....

my prized possession is the people i have met through the indigo girls.
some of my closest friends where i live now, the oft-maligned baigls, are
the bomb. then there's jan jan, corinne, sweet suzi, carolyn hotpants chow,
the chicago nuts, and the two i miss theses days the most.....jocie and
susan in atlanta...are you girlies even on the list anymore? also, one
person in chicago who i love tremendously and feel sad to have
disappointed. there are many many more and i can't imagine my life in the
past four years without the contributions of these people.....

enuff sap for yas? ;)

xo, sus
ps i dont really have a fender or the autographs...but ill keep you
wondering about jerry's # hahaha

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date:         sun, 14 jun 1998 09:03:19 pdt
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my favorite ig memento is a tough one...
it's either:
a.  my 1200 curfews cover, which amy, emily, and michelle malone
signed... four of us coerced the bus driver into giving us the scoop,
and we got to say hi and meet them after they had showered and were
about ready to hit the road again...
or
b.  amy's pic.  i screamed to get this one, and she had the cutest look
on her face, and i got to touch her hand.

-alicia

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date:         sun, 14 jun 1998 11:34:36 pdt
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well, i had a most unsuccessful remix hunt yesterday...  but i did
happen upon a cd by dan bern.  pulled in by the sticker on the jewel
case that read
"you're holding the new dan bern album. dan is probably the
best-reviewed underground artist in america today.  buy it-- you won't
be disappointed.  produced by ani difranco,"
and the gratuitous liner photos of dan and ani, i bought it for a mere
$5.  he's got this really funny song called "chick singers" about how he
admires all girl singers ("but every now and then while listening to
them i feel like when we were kids i pulled their hair or stole their
bike....if i was a girl i could sing real high and also then i'd know
what having breasts would be like," he sings).  ani and andy stochansky
back him up, and the disc was recorded and mixed by ani and andrew
"goat" gilchrist.  now, can somebody tell me *where* i've heard of this
guy before?  on this list?  does he do backup for ani or anyone else?
this is driving me crazy.

nigc #2:  irish lesbian writer emma donoghue.  she's writen stir-fry,
hood, and kissing the witch. i've been trying to find bio/ management
info on her because she's damn cool and i'd really like to interview her
for a zine article, but i can't find anything.  please help if ya can,
and if you haven't already, read her stuff, it's soooo amazing, her
pages just shine and crunch and leap out at you and the irish slang is
very endearing (to me at least.  oh my how imperialistic and american
that sounded. sorry.)

#3.  i also came upon a copy of meryn cadell's album bombazine for $1.
if anyone would like it, i'll go snag it for ya.  first one to reply
wins.

blaaaaaaaah.
jill

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date:         sun, 14 jun 1998 13:39:24 -0500
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for those of ya still on the hunt..i was at supercrown yesterday and
they had @ 15 copies of the mag..i didn't get one cause i didn't care
for the tune the first time around but you might try there....
also..as i told jill. goatboy is anis husband( what a waste imho, but
what the h**l do i know these days)
thats all folks
thanks to all you sent me those teeny weeny beenie meanie
babies...please don't send no more..ok..cause i got more than i ever
wanted in the first place

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date:         sun, 14 jun 1998 12:02:44 -0700
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hey everybody!!
this my first post on the list. glad to be here.
now its survey time.

1)im 24 years old

2)i got on list 1 month ago

3) live in mississippi

4) i work in public library and write poetry

5)strange fire ( whats better in this world than "left me a fool"!?

6) ctf but ghost was the song that stole my heart first and made me a
fan

7)spring of '91
8)3 shows
9)no bootlegs
                   glad to be here!
                        old man bill


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>also..as i told jill. goatboy is anis husband

yeah pooh, i know, i ain't no chimp.  ;)  ze question waaas:  who is dan
bern, not who is goat.  sorry for the lack of clarity on that.
(and yes it is a waste)

jill

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sorry for the nigc!

in response to the recent escalation of violence in chiapas, there is going to
be a protest at the mexican consulate in atlanta at noon on tuesday, june
16th.

the mexican consulate is located across from kudzu cafe at 3220 peachtree road
ne in buckhead.

for non-atlanta residents that are interested in participating, there are many
local groups across the country organizing rallies and protests.  check with
your local organization, or the ncdm for more info.

for more information in atlanta, please contact the north american
neighborhood association (nana) through their website,
http://www.mindspring.com/~teddie, or the email address:  e-mail:
teddie@mindspring.com.

thanks!
lisa

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does anyone want to do me a favor?

my ig guitar tab page is coming along wonderfully!

however, so are my final exams.

i really want to get this done soon, but i've found myself doggie-paddling in
a sea of "gee, the time really flew by this fourth quarter . . . um, read this
book for tomorrow night and write a report on it, okay?"  from my lovely
teachers.  grrrr...

my request: i have an idea of the chord progression for caramia.  i think it's
d e g f#  with c# or c#m tacked on here and there.  can somebody fiddle with
this and see what they find?  (i.e., it works, it doesn't)  don't figure out
the song by any means, just see if i'm right or not.  i'll give you credit on
my little page.  =)

all right, off to deal with catcher in the rye, the civil war, and my recently
assigned due-tomorrow chemistry project ~
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subject:      as game 6 is just about to start.......(nigc of course)
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go bulls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sincerely,
ian c.

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date:         sun, 14 jun 1998 20:50:34 -0400
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subject:      hit pay dirt!
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hey y'all!

i went to a music show today, wow did i hit the jackpot!  i got the red
sys, power of two with 4 tracks, complicated girls, all on cd, and swamp
ophelia lp autographed by a&e, but its black does that make it more
special?  and ig self titled lp.  the albums look like they've never
been played!  i asked every standholder, "indigo girls?"  most looked at
me weird, but alot of them said they'd bring stuff to the next show
which is in 2 weeks!  i don't think indigo girls are very popular in
lancaster county, so i picked this stuff up at great prices (i thought).

well i'm in ig heaven!

love, karen

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date:         mon, 15 jun 1998 11:09:16 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

karen said:
> sys, power of two with 4 tracks, complicated girls, all on cd, and swamp
> ophelia lp autographed by a&e, but its black does that make it more
> special?  and ig self titled lp.  the albums look like they've never

sorry, the black so vinyl is the most common - i think the
green ones were the most collectible ones?  it's still a
cool find though.

:)
sherlyn
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date:         sun, 14 jun 1998 21:44:33 -0400
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subject:      erin musslewhite - julie clark help!
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i was just reading an interview with lift (both past and present
members) in the current dug and julie says she played bass on an erin
musslewhite album entitled "rise". anyone have any idea how i can get my
hands on this album? i saw erin perform at eddie's attic last october at
the michelle malone benefit and immediately fell in love (again :). when
we got back to atlanta in december, i asked at all the cool record shops
that the lovely lisa dupre escorted us to, but no one had any
recollection of an erin musslewhite album. is she not from atlanta?
cheri? anyone?

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                                dr
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date:         sun, 14 jun 1998 19:14:35 -0700
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my momento is not an official ig thing, but it is the sign that i held
up at the recent show at the warfield that said "you rock".  emily saw
it between songs and smiled at me, i was three people back from the
stage.  that moment is one of my happiest.  i know this makes me sound
stupid and obsessed, but it was awesome.  all of my friends were there.
                                        lynz floren

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date:         sun, 14 jun 1998 22:19:08 -0400
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subject:      natalie and jerry and jane
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just noticed jerry marotta and jane scarpantoni are on the 10,000
maniacs mtv unplugged cd. :)
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date:         sun, 14 jun 1998 23:03:17 -0400
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subject:      yeah bulls (nigc)
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yeah!

my chicago bulls won it!  i wish i were at home to go to the
celebrations...

anyway, i just had to share my happiness with everyone on the list!

bulls rule!!!!

:-) karen

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