lifeblood: listlogs: 1998-06d


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date:         sun, 21 jun 1998 23:01:22 -0500
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howdy all,

    a friendly greeting from a new listee : )

    as a long time fan of ig, i was excited (almost to the point of
embarrassment) when i found 'the list'.  but, as i have learned over the
last couple weeks, i am in great need of help to get going on a boot
collection.
    anyone with words of advice or offerings, please email me.  i
appreciate any help.

    a special thanks goes out to karen, pam & joe.  you've been a great
help already!

    peace and love,
    jules

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    human diversity makes tolerance more than a virtue;
        it makes it a requirement for survival-----rene dubos 1981

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howdy all,
<br> 
<br>    a friendly greeting from a new listee : )

<p>    as a long time fan of ig, i was excited (almost to
the point of embarrassment) when i found 'the list'.  but, as i have
learned over the last couple weeks, i am in great need of help to get going
on a boot collection.
<br>    anyone with words of advice or offerings, please
email me.  i appreciate any help.

<p>    a special thanks goes out to karen, pam & joe. 
you've been a great help already!

<p>    peace and love,
<br>    jules

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more than a virtue;</font></i>
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it makes it a requirement for survival</font></i>-----rene dubos 1981</html>

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date:         sun, 21 jun 1998 23:42:20 -0600
reply-to:     "kim: goddess in her own reality" <smaug@telusplanet.net>
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subject:      new addy (nigc)
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hey cutie patootees... just tapping to let y'all know i'm still out here +
am now back on the list and enjoying reading all yer stuff... specially the
lilith reviews:-)... ummm, i have moved to alberta to live with my gf; been
here for a month now + got online *finally* a week ago, at which time i
rejoined + commenced to lurking:-)... here be my new e-mail addy for anyone
interested in tapping at me:-) to all others, i suspect that upon seeing my
name + reading the official "nigc" in my subject line, you've just gone
ahead and trashed this here post, so... there's really no need to say
anything at all to you, now is there?? lol...
oh... uh, amy j. putnam??? i sure would *love* info on the xena mailing
list... there is *no* way fer me to watch out here + i want to know what's
happening ( pout)...
peace all... kim
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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 08:38:44 -0400
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from:         kim & rhea <reebee@otherside.com>
subject:      caitlin wheeler  *nigc
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caitlin please write me i have lost your email address

kim & rhea

do we have to live inside its walls to identify the cage

ferron

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 08:45:24 -0400
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subject:      re: anarchy turns to joblessness!
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on fri, 19 jun 1998, jill certo wrote:

> sorry, d, didn't mean to incite any unconscious convulsive-type
> twitching.  hope you're still employed. ;)

   oh yeah, i'm the cheap intern that works long hours, so they don't want
to fire me...

> (why do i have a mental picture of wayne's world?)

   i was always a bit more partial to bill and ted myself.

   "so-crates says 'all that we can know is that we know nothing.'"
   "that's us, dude."

   darius

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 05:51:44 pdt
reply-to:     lance longwell <longwell_ls@hotmail.com>
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subject:      red sys registration closed....may i have the envelope please?
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hey kind friends,

the registration on my red sys offer is now closed.  this morning, i
drew 2 names out of my recycle bin (i didn't have a hat, so i used the
next best thing).....

the two names i drew were susan and amy.  i've contacted them directly.
they have 24 hours to get and confirm that they still want it.
otherwise, they will go two alternates whom i also drew.  so,
congratulations to susan and amy....

one last thing, registration for my blue offers will continue until
about 7 pm (eastern time) tonight.

cheers,
l'sly

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 06:16:19 -0700
reply-to:     jan monforton <jmonfort@vannet.k12.wa.us>
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from:         jan monforton <jmonfort@vannet.k12.wa.us>
subject:      my 2 cents on portland lilith
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of course my email dies as soon as i want to ramble on about a most
excellent ig performance, but after reading my vegan terrorist manual at
1 am i worked up enough good vibes to get the system crankin' again. so.
i was so happy to get to see rockin' in the free world live. too
incredible. i bought my ticket the day before lilith so i was banished to
the seating in the stands, but my insane friend and i were first in line
friday morning so we got pretty decent seats. however, i just had to see
my beloved girls (especially amy) up close so i more carefully snuck in
to the field area when the security guard wasn't looking. laura, i tried
to find you so i could hang with you, but i couldn't. oh well. but after
getting shooed out of the walkways a few times, i decided to find a less
conspicuous spot to stand since i wasn't s'posed to be there anyways. so
i ended up on the very edge of the amy side about 7 rows back. it was a
pretty good spot, definately better than my real seat. and boy oh boy did
amy flash some incredible smiles over to that side. by the end a bunch of
us over there were on the chairs dancing. very fun. i was disappointed
that we didn't get an everyone together song at the very end. um, i can't
think of much else. this train revised was really incredible. and i
missed sara lee not being there. natalie merchant singing if i only had a
brain was very cute. and let the record show that i survived the men's
bathroom. so i'm probably forgetting stuff and i've probably bored you all,
but it was a great show and i'm glad i went. and i saw a bunch of people
i know which was fun too. for those of you still reading my mom
and i made an excellent killing at tower saturday night and i have about
15 postcards to give away to those who send envelopes. email me if
interested. and for those who wrote to me about the other stuff, i will
respond, i just haven't been able to get on my email and i was waiting to
hear from jill who was mia but is now back. thanks for your patience.
-sam (the vegan terrorist who loves her duct tape)

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 10:06:46 -0400
reply-to:     snapper@bulloch.com
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from:         susan <snapper@bulloch.com>
subject:      calendar up for grabs, poster is outta here
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hey.  i've gotten no more offers on the poster so it has been
committed.  (like i need to be!)  however,

still would like to trade the calendar issued as a promotional item for
"shaming" for sys remix cd, red or blue.  it don't matter to me.  i can
still throw in a post card or two with this.

as before...send replies to "snapper@bulloch.com" with snapper as the
subject line.

thanks to all who replied to the poster.

susan

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 09:37:37 -0700
reply-to:     kathleen mulhern <kmulhern@scenicsoft.com>
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subject:      new finn cd (nigc, obviously)
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just wanted any crowded house, split enz, finn brothers (i.e. neil finn)
fans to know that the amazing and awe-inspiring neil finn has a new cd
out:  "try whistling this."  incredible!  i cannot say enough wonderful
things about this!  he is a talent of rare exception, lemme just say.

run, don't walk, to get your hands on this one!  you don't have to be a
crowded house fan to love this either, so ig fans will love this also, i
guarantee!

simply amazing.  tell your friends!  :o)

-kate  :o)

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 11:46:42 -0600
reply-to:     "cusick, joanne - aurora, co" <joanne.cusick@cexp.com>
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subject:      nigc-birthdays for this week!
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cancer
( june 22-july 22)
  an early vacation for cancer who will want to spend it fishing but the
family has other plans. go along with them and you will have more fun
than you expected to have. others may find the advent of an old love
coming back into there life has them all agog, but tread carefully, the
chances are good that this particular leopard has not changed his/her
spots. if you listen to a certain dream you may have this week
concerning just this sort of thing, you will find your guidance and your
insight into the matter.

happy birthday to the following!

june 22 (77)
kas28024@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (kim shaver)
   "i think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long.
    if we're in each other's dreams, we can play together all night."
                                       -calvin and hobbes
june 25 (78)
ablipman@asa.upenn.edu (andi)
"the prize is always worth the rocky ride"

june 26 ('77)
ae-johnson@nwu.edu (amanda johnson)

june 27
gflame@nwu.edu (greg flamer)
(i thought amy's birthday was in april...silly me! ;)


if you would like to be added to the birthday list, please email me at
joanne.cusick@cexp.com, and i will be more than happy to add you....
otherwise, have a great week!

"men are like a fine wine. they all start out like grapes, and it's our
job to stomp on them and keep them in the dark until they mature into
something you'd want to have dinner with"

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 13:50:48 -0400
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at 8:57 pm -0400 6/21/98, kate lupson wrote:
>  this isn't a review or anything, i just wanted to
>let everyone know that she rocked (as if there was ever a doubt!!!) ; )
ditto that
don't know if the rebirth brass band  played in ny... but the encore jam
with ani, them and ms sarah lee was a gas...wish i had  brought my recorder
m

"free your mind and your ass will follow" (funkadelic)

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 14:04:26 -0400
reply-to:     "karen l. frey" <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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guess what i just got!~  i am so excited i can't hardly type...i love
you guys!

peace,  karen

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 11:47:46 -0700
reply-to:     kathleen mulhern <kmulhern@scenicsoft.com>
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from:         kathleen mulhern <kmulhern@scenicsoft.com>
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subject:      yet another lilith slam
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you know what's really boring?  lilith slams.  here's a four-page doozy:

http://www.newtimesla.com/1998/061898/feature1-1.html

i just wrote them an e-mail.  mail me privately if you want to read it.
i'm just really sick of this obvious jealousy directed toward sarah and
the performers of lilith.  grr.

-kate  :o)

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 14:56:46 -0400
reply-to:     "karen l. frey" <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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blood & fire:  recorded live at the university of oregon, eugene oregon
august 21 & 22 1193

ctf, land of cannan, ghost, chicken man, watershed galileo, all along the
watchtower, american tune, everybody get together, hammer and a nail,
virginia wolfe, pushing the needle, price of darkness, kid fears, mona
lisas and mad haters

made in italy distrubuted by primadonna
its all accoustical, its so awesome, i love it more than any other ig cd i
have so far.  it reminds me of when i saw them a few months ago in pa where
we stood in the storm for 2 hours!

i got it at the record connection in ephrata pa  717-733-1641 ask for bill-
tell him karen sent you and he takes charge cards cost is 25.00 & 4.00
s/h.  he'll have to order it, but he's hot on the trail for ig stuff for me
cause i'm special : )

melissa singhaus wrote:

> what is blood and fire and any suggestions on where to find it> missy
>

love, and ig dreams,

karen

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 15:08:01 -0400
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hey....regret to inform you that the calendar has now been spoken for!


thanks,


susan

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 15:15:09 -0400
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on mon, 22 jun 1998, karen l. frey wrote:

> blood & fire:  recorded live at the university of oregon, eugene oregon
> august 21 & 22 1193

   1193?  man, and i thought lisa loeb looked young for her age...amy
ain't half bad at all for 800 years old...  ;)
   now if i could only get ahold of 12,000 curfews...

   darius

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 15:21:52 edt
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vh1 played a show called women first this morning... maybe this isn't new but
i usually don't watch tv so it was new for me.  anyway, the girls were
mentioned twice and they showed clips of them on stage a couple times.  this
was after they played melissa etheridge's "come to my window" and before they
played sheryl crow's "every day is a winding road".

~~tigger (who only watches quality television... like south park....)

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 15:33:10 -0400
reply-to:     "karen l. frey" <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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south park rocks!!!  not..actually it is pretty entertaining bubble gum for the
brain...i swear, this cd is awesome!!!  (igc content)

love karen

ndygotiggr@aol.com wrote:

> ~~tigger (who only watches quality television... like south park....)
>

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 15:37:59 -0400
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subject:      re: yet another lilith slam
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on mon, 22 jun 1998, kathleen mulhern wrote:

> i just wrote them an e-mail.  mail me privately if you want to read it.
> i'm just really sick of this obvious jealousy directed toward sarah and
> the performers of lilith.  grr.

   i'd be interested to read your e-mail.  personally, i think the author
stepped out of line a few times -- the whole crock of shit comment was
uncalled for. but he did bring up some very valid points, and his sources
were pretty impeccable.
   let's face it -- if you're going to rammstein and rage concerts, you're
probably going to accuse lilithers of being tepid.  but if you're used to
lilith's white pretty-girl stereotype, you'll definitely be shitting your
pants when the lead singer of rammstein lights himself on fire and starts
beating beer cans against his chest until he bleeds.  (not to mention the
fact that your ears will already be bleeding)  it's a matter of
perspective.
   and yeah, lilith is doing some things that i'm not up with -- the
levi's thing for example.  the ticket price hike was completely
unnecessary. the artist roster -- well, i like it, otherwise i'd be
somewhere else.
   there are all sorts of opinions.  some are well informed, some are not.
some are radical, some are reactionary.  and i'm not accusing
kate personally of anything, (i think she's pretty cool...) but lefties
are notorious for screaming "injustice" and "closed-minded" whenever
things don't go the way they want.  isn't that just as injust and
closed-minded?  just a few doggie biscuits for thought...  (uh oh!  i made
a pet reference...i can hear the peta members now...)

   darius

"it's all right---
this premonition is killing me
but it's all right---
i must be crazy, i must be seein' thangs..."
   ---john fogerty, "premonition"

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 15:37:19 -0400
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record connection
550 north reading road
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they are awesome to do business with!

love karen

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you raised some awesome points here...

nighthawk wrote:

>    let's face it -- if you're going to rammstein and rage concerts, you're
> probably going to accuse lilithers of being tepid.

exactly.  and what i said in the letter was:  if you don't like the music,
don't go.  but don't tell people who are into the music what they are or are
not going to experience (i.e., the author said that you won't experience a
"catharsis" at lilith.  i dunno about lilith, but i certainly do at every ig
show i've ever been to) at the show.

>    and yeah, lilith is doing some things that i'm not up with -- the
> levi's thing for example.  the ticket price hike was completely
> unnecessary. the artist roster -- well, i like it, otherwise i'd be
> somewhere else.

totally!  don't like it?  don't go.  but don't get down on the artists for
just doing their thing and don't get down on sarah for organizing well.  i
dunno -- it just seems like lilith dumping is the sport of the moment and it
just gets a little boring.

> and i'm not accusing
> kate personally of anything, (i think she's pretty cool...)

i think you're pretty cool, too!

> but lefties
> are notorious for screaming "injustice" and "closed-minded" whenever
> things don't go the way they want.  isn't that just as injust and
> closed-minded?

exactly what the author of the piece was doing.  she was screaming and yelling
because they didn't have _her_ type of music there.  so what?  don't attend
the festival then.  that's why i've never been to lilith and why i'll never go
to lilith -- i'm not really into all the musicians (sinead, whom i'd give a
couple of limbs to see and ig being obvious exceptions).  but i'm not sitting
here trashing it just because it's well organized and well marketed.  "lilith
fairies" indeed.   hmmph!

:o) this is been another un-solicited $.02 from kate!

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 13:31:46 pdt
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hkf,

i wanted to say one thing about the slam on lilith fair.  the author of
the article brings up valid points.  it started off like a great idea
and the general consumer was given a lot of hype about lilith being
different.  but we've seen what the truth is....

it really is levi's fair.  it's just another corporate money machine
(this time benefitting women).  i don't care who the end group is, if
you preach from the high horse ("only ethical corporate sponsorers",
etc.) and then back down.....well....what do you expect from critics?
hell, what do you expect from fans?  after my first levi's fair post, i
got a few flames.  but i got a lot of messages of support.  people
saying that they weren't going to levi's fair for those reasons.  ig is
playing 4 levi's fair dates in my area.  it was a tough decision, but i
won't be going to a single one of them.  i won't support levi's and
won't support a fair that claims morality, but is just the devil in
disguise.

if someone wants to go to lilith, that's fine, but everyone needs to
know what they're supporting.  i, for one, will stay home and think
about about how women are being treated around the world so that we can
have this little gathering.  sad.

cheers,
l'sly


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please tell me that someone booted it, especially ig. i mean, security
was absolutely nill as far as bag checks so it couldn't have been a
problem to get your recorder in (if i'd known it would have been so lax,
i might have bothered with booting it myself). okay, just a pitiful little
plea from me.
-sam (off to see her naturopath)

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on mon, 22 jun 1998, kathleen mulhern wrote:

> you raised some awesome points here...

   thanks!  as did you...

> exactly.  and what i said in the letter was:  if you don't like the music,
> don't go.  but don't tell people who are into the music what they are or are
> not going to experience (i.e., the author said that you won't experience a
> "catharsis" at lilith.  i dunno about lilith, but i certainly do at every ig
> show i've ever been to) at the show.

   right!  i can slam the spice girls all i want for being talentless
trash, but it doesn't mean that some 13 year old girls don't get a rise
out of them.  since they sold out madison square garden in 12 minutes,
somebody must!

> totally!  don't like it?  don't go.  but don't get down on the artists for
> just doing their thing and don't get down on sarah for organizing well.  i
> dunno -- it just seems like lilith dumping is the sport of the moment and it
> just gets a little boring.

   of course it is -- success is always followed by critics.  i'll go,
because it's my only chance to see the indigo girls, and i love the idea,
but much of the promotion of lilith fair smacks me in the same way as
woodstock '94 did, only not as bad.  both are (were) damn good shows.  but
remember when the original organizers of woodstock decided that '94 was a
crock, and so decided to hold their own festival on the original grounds,
and the ws '94 people sued them?  and won!  and disallowed people from
bringing their own food so they had to buy festival food the entire event,
and still they spoke of it as being a continuation of the whole peace/love
thing that the original woodstock was...
   no, sarah's not that extreme...and i love her music.  but i'm not
buying into her revolution.  women have mostly been ignored, and now
they're being exploited, only to be dropped five years down the line
when the trend fades and people want to go back to anger and
overproduction and hair.  is that progress, as sarah would have us
believe, or is it something else?  but i might sound like i'm
making her out to be a manipulative bitch---i'm not.  perhaps she hasn't
thought about it that much, and that's understandable --- i wouldn't, if i
were making as much as she was.  you don't shit where you eat (unless
you're a cow), after all.

> i think you're pretty cool, too!

   great minds, i tell you.

> exactly what the author of the piece was doing.  she was screaming and yelling
> because they didn't have _her_ type of music there.  so what?  don't attend
> the festival then.  that's why i've never been to lilith and why i'll never go
> to lilith -- i'm not really into all the musicians (sinead, whom i'd give a
> couple of limbs to see and ig being obvious exceptions).  but i'm not sitting
> here trashing it just because it's well organized and well marketed.  "lilith
> fairies" indeed.   hmmph!

   yep -- plenty of accusative nonsense to go around.  i was just hoping
that you didn't make like a indigoheaded fangirl (i've never done such
a thing...mostly because i'm making like an indigoheaded fanboy!) and
fire off a knee-jerk response, which is just what the author would have
liked to respond to (read: rip up) in the next editorial section.
   which you didn't.  congratulations and hugs all around!

   darius

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this premonition is killing me
but it's all right---
i must be crazy, i must be seein' thangs..."
   ---john fogerty, "premonition"

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okay, i must have missed something (i had 250+ e-mails this morning, so
i deleted a lot without reading), what's the gripe about lillith fair
this year?

peace,

dan perkins
austin, texas

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before you hit the reply key and my machine blows up from the flames try to
have an open mind about this question....

is levi fair really lilith fair???

b

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hey my friendly fellow listees,

i went searchin for the sys remix, no dice.  but congrats to my ex, who
found the "red one".... however, i ran across a record store that has an
unopened copy of swamp ophelia, signed green all that jazz.... i
couldn't afford it, so i decided to pass the news on.... it's $100...
and he told me he'd throw in the cardboard stand for free.... if
anyone's interested seriously, just tell me and i'll hook you up.

c-ya!
-lee <formerly known as the fan called alicia>

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i have to tell you all this, because you will understand...i work in the
office section of a manufacturing plant.  one of the women who works on
the floor is named maria, and she is a dead ringer for emily saliers!
(except she's a bit shorter and thinner, but you get the idea.)  today,
when i said hello to her, i actually called her emily!  she looked
puzzled, and i just told her that she reminded me of someone else i
know...but now i feel really tiny...yikes!  i feel so embarrassed!
anyone else have a similar experience?

winona "wishful thinking" :-)

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okay, so someone told me that levis is sponsoring (or one of the
sponsors) lillith fair, i still don't see the problem. can anyone clue
me in?

peace,

dan perkins

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i know this is not igc but does anyone have any idea if the steamboat is an
all ages venue or at least at sometimes?? please!?  if not then my gf can't
go, sorry for the waist of bandwidht but i needed to know before 7pm and im
not getting a response from steamboat, and though maybe someone here could
tell me.  sister 7 is playing tonight , i have to go.  thanks!
val

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i am clueless as well dan.  glad to see someone else was not afraid to ask
:)

gina

dan perkins wrote:

> okay, so someone told me that levis is sponsoring (or one of the
> sponsors) lillith fair, i still don't see the problem. can anyone clue
> me in?
>

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okay, someone enlighten me...  what's so bad about levi's?  i happen to wear
them all of the time.  is the company doing something horrible, or do some
people just hate corporate america in general, and so hate levi's?  i mean,
last year, one of the major sponsors was nine west, and they're a corporation
that's in the fashion business as well... what's the big deal with levi's?

~lisa

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apparently sarah has said that she will only have "clean" companies associated
with lilith, but levis is reportedly going to start manufacturing in china.
and that's bad.  and not "clean", to say the least.

-kate  :o)

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> i am clueless as well dan.  glad to see someone else was not afraid to ask
> :)
>
> gina
>

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hi:

in birmingham, al this past weekend we had our annual music fest called city
stages........rosanne cash was one of our performers.  i liked her about 10
years ago but i haven't really listened to her since then.  i really wanted to
see her tho and the stage she was at was great!  everyone was pretty much
quiet and calm and sitting down (as most of the songs she played were slow and
intimate).  i loved it because everyone could enjoy the concert in ease
without the chaos of large, standing crowds.  it was mostly a 30+ crowd with a
few 20-30 year olds (like myself) in there.

it was only her and guess who???  john levanthal.  since i haven't kept up
with her since her marriage to rodney crowell, i didn't know she had remarried
since the divorce.  i still didn't know she was married to him until
today......i just knew i recognized him on stage playing guitar with her.  she
didn't treat him like a husband, nor did he treat her as a wife.......but when
she said it was him, i almost freaked because of his collaborative work with
shawn colvin helping to write some of the songs, most particularly the music
to "sunny came home" and the producing he does for her albums.  he was also on
that vh-1 special with her when she did the music thing for the kids.

i discovered that rosanne's music is alot like today's female
singer/songwriters........she plays guitar and her lyrics are deep and some of
her music kicks it, while most is mellow.  i heard lots of old favorites as
well as some new songs, one or two of which she co-wrote with john.

she has been long associated with country music, but her sound is not
country.......it is more folk/pop........she is one of those non-
categories........she would be an excellent addition to lilith in my
opinion........she is all woman and cool as hell........seemed very nice, too.

i went and bought two of her cd's today and am listening to them now.......i
had one of her cassettes 10 years ago, but i have lost it.  if anyone is
interested in checking her out, i would strongly recommend it.......esp one
that was released in february of her biggest hits.......it is always great to
start with the hits of an artist first before branching out if you are not
sure if you will like them or not.

if anyone has any thoughts on any of this, please let me know.  i was so taken
with her that i wrote her!  she was definitely the city stages highlight for
me!  btw, she is also playing at fleadh!  :-)

amanda

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>return-path: <rbr-fans-errors@lists.best.com>
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>subject: (rbr-fans) fwd: mtv ani difranco #1 fan search
>date: mon, 22 jun 1998 18:22:12 -0400
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>rbr fans
>
>not quite my thing, but someone else might be interested, eh?
>
>- chris
>
>http://www.mtv.com/mtv/castingcall/
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>mtv is working with ani difranco on a new show called "fanatic", where
>devoted
>fans get the opportunity to meet and interview their favorite
>celebrities!
>
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well kids..work places me in the sunny city by the bay  at the beginning
of aug and i need to know of some hot spots to entertain a poor broken
hearted lonely girl with her evenings to fill..
anyone from the area..let me know of places to visit..ok?
thanks pooh

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hey you all, i got the so signed album at a  music show for 25.00.  now its
not red or green (although the label says its green, it looks black to me)
fyi

karen

alicia bender wrote:

>  however, i ran across a record store that has an
> unopened copy of swamp ophelia, signed green all that jazz.... i
> couldn't afford it, so i decided to pass the news on.... it's $100...
> and he told me he'd throw in the cardboard stand for free.... if
> anyone's interested seriously, just tell me and i'll hook you up.
>
> c-ya!
> -lee <formerly known as the fan called alicia>
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you know, i so enjoyed lilith last year at scranton, but i was extremely
pissed off at that damn airplane that kept circling aroung with the beer
advertisement, drowning out the performers.

and you know what else ticks me off?  lilith so generously donates 1.00
of each ticket sale to charity, but they made 16 million dollars and
donated 700,00.  wow really generous.  i'm being sarcastic.  i think
that really sucks.  but i guess its better than nada.

but, i am going again this year because i love sarah and ig..keep the
darn rappers, but i'll put up with them to see ig and sarah.  i'm
disappointed in sarah's choices for performers this year, but i figure
60 bucks covers 2 concerts and those are the 2 groups i am going to see.

love to all ig fans

karen

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wait...please correct me if i am wrong, but isn't levi's a *good* company?
weren't they the ones who publically dissed boy scouts when boy scouts
would not allow gays to be troop leaders (or something like that?).  i
thought that levis was really supportive of gay rights.  what's so bad
about levis sponsoring lilith?  i am confused....

i'm going on wednesday anyway b/c i wouldn't miss seeing my girls in sf
for the world!

:-) karen

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and to add to the conspiracy that neil finn and amy ray are
actually the same person..... wait for it......the first 3 words on
the cd are.....


               hand me down...!

see this proves it..!!!!

>>> kathleen mulhern <kmulhern@scenicsoft.com> 23/june/1998
04:37am >>>
just wanted any crowded house, split enz, finn brothers (i.e.
neil finn)
fans to know that the amazing and awe-inspiring neil finn has a
new cd
out:  "try whistling this."  incredible!  i cannot say enough
wonderful
things about this!  he is a talent of rare exception, lemme just
say.

run, don't walk, to get your hands on this one!  you don't have
to be a
crowded house fan to love this either, so ig fans will love this
also, i
guarantee!

simply amazing.  tell your friends!  :o)

-kate  :o)

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they are bitching because of the article that was written today.  i can email
you the address tomorrow cause its at work.  the article slammed lilith, and
everything that goes with it.  they say that levi's is back to using chinese
labor.  after reading that slamming/damming article, i don't really believe
anything they say...

peace,  karen

indigo head wrote:

> wait...please correct me if i am wrong, but isn't levi's a *good* company?
> weren't they the ones who publically dissed boy scouts when boy scouts
> would not allow gays to be troop leaders (or something like that?).  i
> thought that levis was really supportive of gay rights.  what's so bad
> about levis sponsoring lilith?  i am confused....
>
> i'm going on wednesday anyway b/c i wouldn't miss seeing my girls in sf
> for the world!
>
> :-) karen
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> "san francisco has only one drawback. 'tis
> hard to leave." (rudyard kipling)
> "the prize is always worth the rocky ride."
> (indigo girls, e.s.)
> "i am the lorax, i speak for the trees, i
> speak for the trees for the trees have no
> tounges."  (dr. seuss)
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> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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anyone who calls the performers lilith fairies has obviously not seen
amy ray do scooter boys and have one of her hard-assed soc's.

as we all know, that woman could beat the pants off the hardest male
rocker you could name.

ah well, some people just aren't fortunate ones,
jill, listening to the pixies' doolittle


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last year after scranton lilith, i wrote a long letter to the lilith
email, letting them know how mad i was that they had a beer sponsor.  i'm
not a prude, but there were children there, and it was promoted as a
family event.  it was also poorly organized, had to buy 4.00 sodas, 6.00
sandwiches, etc.  anyhow, i got a response from the "lilith fairie"  i
swear to god, that was his email address, saying that i had no right to
accuse sarah for poorly planning the event and that the "venue" decides
who the sponors are gonna be.

you know, i'm getting angry now.  i think the corporate backing is
terrific, but lets let the profit go to the needy like they promise,(i
mean more of the profit) and not line these wealthy corporate monsters
pockets.  then we could all feel good about going.  i'm starting to think
i don't want to support the whole thing by going but i got 4 tickets at
60 bucks a pop and i wouldn't miss ig and sarah for anything.  (even my
gut feeling about this nonsense)

and jill, i aggree, amy could kick maryiln manson's ass anyday of the
week, what kinda guy is he anyway with a girl's name.

love,  karen

just jill wrote:

> anyone who calls the performers lilith fairies has obviously not seen
> amy ray do scooter boys and have one of her hard-assed soc's.
>
> as we all know, that woman could beat the pants off the hardest male
> rocker you could name.
>
> ah well, some people just aren't fortunate ones,
> jill, listening to the pixies' doolittle

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why all the hoopla over levi backing lilith fair?
who cares? sometimes we get so wrapped up in all the "political bs"
that we forget what this is really all about... the music.  if the
music performed by these women at lilith reaches one...one persons
heart and soul then what difference does it make if levi is on stage
holding up a banner?! just my opinion. i guess i just love the music
so much i dont pay attention to all the other stuff. maybe i should...

                      peace
                      oldmanbill

---karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net> wrote:
>
> they are bitching because of the article that was written today.  i
can email
> you the address tomorrow cause its at work.  the article slammed
lilith, and
> everything that goes with it.  they say that levi's is back to using
chinese
> labor.  after reading that slamming/damming article, i don't really
believe
> anything they say...
>
> peace,  karen
>
> indigo head wrote:
>
> > wait...please correct me if i am wrong, but isn't levi's a *good*
company?
> > weren't they the ones who publically dissed boy scouts when boy
scouts
> > would not allow gays to be troop leaders (or something like
that?).  i
> > thought that levis was really supportive of gay rights.  what's so
bad
> > about levis sponsoring lilith?  i am confused....
> >
> > i'm going on wednesday anyway b/c i wouldn't miss seeing my girls
in sf
> > for the world!
> >
> > :-) karen
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > "san francisco has only one drawback. 'tis
> > hard to leave." (rudyard kipling)
> > "the prize is always worth the rocky ride."
> > (indigo girls, e.s.)
> > "i am the lorax, i speak for the trees, i
> > speak for the trees for the trees have no
> > tounges."  (dr. seuss)
> > userpages.wittenberg.edu/~klrosenb
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sorry to post this to the whole list but i can't find cami and pam's private
e-mail addresses, sooo.. cami and pam-----> thank you both for the great
boots/amy comp tape!!!   they are both terrific (:
~jennifer

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>amy ray do scooter boys and have one of her hard-assed soc's.

uh, that's "have heard."  but i guess you could have one, like on paper
or in your sig or something.... nah.  have *heard*, that's what i mean.

searching for new words to make you understand,
jill

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karen got blasted by
>the "lilith fairie"  i
>swear to god, that was his email address
and lived to tell.

(and what i want to know is, does this fairie have any connections with
the tooth fairy?  that chicky owes me some bucks from 1983.)

she's right, there is a lilith fairie, on their website, it's this q&a
section.  go there and read it, there's an especially amusing one from
these two christian (seemingly) fundamentalists, saying that lilith
wasn't in the bible and lilith fair is making up its own doctrine and
corrupting people and swaying them from the real truth, or something to
that effect.
i bet said fairie published karen's question, and the not-so-angelic
response, online at the time.

jill again

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i believe that the fairie made up those questions on the web page, they are
so obviously "made up" if you know what i mean, and no, my email was
private.  he told me i was wrong to be mad at sarah, she "certainly dosen't
have the time to write stuff on the web page"  she called montage mountain
a pimple for god's sake...

i think i have pms and am glad lilith is a month away for me...

love, karen again

just jill wrote:

> karen got blasted by
> >the "lilith fairie"  i
> >swear to god, that was his email address
> and lived to tell.
>
> (and what i want to know is, does this fairie have any connections with
> the tooth fairy?  that chicky owes me some bucks from 1983.)
>
> she's right, there is a lilith fairie, on their website, it's this q&a
> section.  go there and read it, there's an especially amusing one from
> these two christian (seemingly) fundamentalists, saying that lilith
> wasn't in the bible and lilith fair is making up its own doctrine and
> corrupting people and swaying them from the real truth, or something to
> that effect.
> i bet said fairie published karen's question, and the not-so-angelic
> response, online at the time.
>
> jill again
>

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this is not a flame towards the person whose post i am quoting here...
just using it because it reflects many of your views.

>who cares? sometimes we get so wrapped up in all the "political bs"
>that we forget what this is really all about... the music.  if the
>music at lilith reaches one...one person's
>heart and soul then what difference does it make if levi is on stage
>holding up a banner?!

"who cares?  i mean, if those nike ads reach one,... just one girl's
heart and soul and inspires her that she "can," then so what if nike is
using female slave labor in third-world countries to make the shoes?"

go look at the inside labels on your air deschutz's and tell me which
country's women were exploited to make your footwear.  then tell me
again that the ends justify the means.

get wrapped up in the political bs, for god's sake.
jill

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geesh, how can we let someone who writes such a degrotatory article blow
us all away and cause dissention amoungst the greatest group of friends
who never met?

i wish i hadn't read that damn article.  i just want to go to lilith and
have a great time and dammit i'm not wearing levi's cause they ride up
in my crotch...i like eddie bauers jeans better cause they are half the
cost of levi's and i don't care that this has nothing to do with lilith
or ig, but it does, don't you get it?  they accused our ig of "selling
out"  what a bunch of shit

love,  karen

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at 4:36 pm -0500 6/22/98, dan perkins wrote:
i still don't see the problem. can anyone clue
>me in?
me too..sitting here in my 550s...listening to last years lilith
cd...should i be ashamed....nahh
marilyn

"free your mind and your ass will follow" (funkadelic)

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in a message dated 98-06-19 12:29:20 edt, biodb8er@rocketmail.com writes:

<< can't y'all who claim to be so high and mighty
political see that amazon.com sucks?  it's a corprate
conglomerate.  why do you think they can offer such
cheap rates?  because the publishing companies go to
the stores such as amazon.com, barnes and noble (also
owns b. dalton) and walden books (related to borders)
and find out what those stores want to order. >>

i agree wholeheartedly!!  amazon.com is just like all the other corporate
bookstores.  i volunteer at a local bookstore here in town (the only non-
profit feminist bookstore in the nation i might add!!) and little bookstores
get so shafted when big bookstores .. and now big internet bookstores move
into town!  y'all should support your local bookstores!  the one's that are
part of your community...especially feminist bookstores...there are fewer and
fewer all the time!  ok, that's all :)
~jen

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date:         mon, 22 jun 1998 20:03:50 -0600
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ok, my blue sys cd offer is now closed.  congratulations to larissa and
rob who won the lottery.

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karen:

you know what; we all have to be who we are.  sarah m is doing more with
this festival than most do in a lifetime.  she's a musician and that's what
got her doing lf.  so it doesnt meet everyone's approval -- so what?  enjoy
it for what it is; celebrate it for what it is.....

or just don't go.

my .02

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> subject: re: they called them lilith what?!
> date: monday, june 22, 1998 8:49 pm
>
> last year after scranton lilith, i wrote a long letter to the lilith
> email, letting them know how mad i was that they had a beer sponsor.  i'm
> not a prude, but there were children there, and it was promoted as a
> family event.  it was also poorly organized, had to buy 4.00 sodas, 6.00
> sandwiches, etc.  anyhow, i got a response from the "lilith fairie"  i
> swear to god, that was his email address, saying that i had no right to
> accuse sarah for poorly planning the event and that the "venue" decides
> who the sponors are gonna be.
>
> you know, i'm getting angry now.  i think the corporate backing is
> terrific, but lets let the profit go to the needy like they promise,(i
> mean more of the profit) and not line these wealthy corporate monsters
> pockets.  then we could all feel good about going.  i'm starting to think
> i don't want to support the whole thing by going but i got 4 tickets at
> 60 bucks a pop and i wouldn't miss ig and sarah for anything.  (even my
> gut feeling about this nonsense)
>
> and jill, i aggree, amy could kick maryiln manson's ass anyday of the
> week, what kinda guy is he anyway with a girl's name.
>
> love,  karen
>

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hey y'all!
   just got home from camping after the sunday show.  it was incredible!!  i
was so looking forward to seeing all the performers..and they didn't let me
down.  first i saw tara mclean...who rocked!  i'd seen her perform once
before..she's a very powerful performer..not to mention very cute :)  next i
headed over to see sinead, who blew me away!  she was great and also looking
very very good :) (see a pattern here?)  then i treked back up the hill to see
k's choice, who i've been a fan of for a long time but for some reason have
never seen live!  woohoo!  they also were excellent...rockin'..and uh...sarah
was too cute for words (smiley girl :))  then back down the hill at record
speed for erykah badu (who i was very excited to see) and she didn't let me
down...i love her music even more now! (i won't even bother to mention her
beauty..too much :)
   then i hung out for ig who rocked!! :)  a very upbeat set...sinead joined
in for chickenman and sarah and sinead joined them for water is wide.  also,
natalie merchant's trumpet player filled the spot left by sara and her tin
whistle....  the whole show was great and the crowd was really energenic (is
that a word? it looks weird)  of course, it was way too short...sarah
mclachlan, k's choice, tara, natalie's trumpet player joined in for ctf.  i
don't have a set list or anything, i was too entraced :))  em and amy didn't
talk very much during the show, but something very funny amy said sticks out
in my mind.  amy said something like, "well, i guess this one goes out to ermo
highschool!!" and then they broke into "it's alright"  right on! :))  their
set got me excited for seeing them in august when they come around again...it
was kind of a teaser! :)
   oh yeah, of course em and amy were gorgeous as usual :)
   natalie's set was fantastic!  she was so excited she started laughing twice
during her first song! :)  she was dancing all over the place...undressing,
letting down her hair...she was very fun to watch...and of course her singing
was impecable!  what a voice she has...she got the crowd really involved too.
   sarah m. also put on quite a show.  by this time i was very very
tired...but i still enjoyed the set thoroughly!  she sang ice cream (woohoo!)
which was one of 2 highlights of her set for me.  the second highlight was at
the end when everyone came up and sang "what's goin' on".  erykah wasn't
around...i think sinead wasn't either...but, re: someone's earlier email
also...i think erykah left earlier to be with her 7 mo.old son...and i think
sinead had to leave early.  although we were a small crowd (in relation to the
night before) we were lively!  we kept singing "what's goin' on" till they all
left the stage! :)
   all in all it was a fantastic show...i was very happy to have spent so much
money heehe:).  i passed out as soon as we got to our tent, but had wonderful
lilith dreams all night! :)
~jen

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yeah, folks,
>celebrate it for what it is.....

...the manifestation of this disgusting imperialistic capitalist
consumer-driven, goods-hungry patriarchal bastardized society we call
the usa, whose motto is "step on those who have no ground to stand on."
ohhh, i get it now: if they ain't red-blooded americans, they're either
commie bastards, dirty savages, or ignorant animals that we can use at
our whim to suit our purposes.

god bless america.  (mcdisney wal-mart world)

jill, who is siding with karen on this one:  it sure is an ucky night,
when you think about who our country is pushing over right now.

(and this isn't an issue of attacking sarah m., it's an issue of *human
rights.*  some people are turning this into one of those "if you don't
like it, don't go" threads.  this is not that simple.  this is people.
being exploited.  being used.  forget about sarah... think about the
people being paid shit and working such long hours under such conditions
to make levis.  it's really insensitive and naive to just say "if you
don't like it, then don't go, so there.")

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i cut this from the merriweather web page...it doesn't say anything about
food...guess i need to call them and find out what their stance really is...


>>>>>certain items are prohibited on mpp grounds to protect the well-being of
all mpp's patrons. those items include, but are not limited to:

-armaments of any description, -glass containers.

other items restricted for contractual reasons are:

-beverages (other than bottled water), -recording devices, -cameras.

also, smoking is not permited in the pavilion.

bottled water (in sealed, plastic containers) is permitted (and encouraged
during hot days!).
cameras are occassionally permitted, check last minute info on the day of the
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that lilith article was pretty awful, particularly that remark about the
indigo girls--as if they need michael stipe to save their career, yeah right.

i myself am skipping lilith because i really don't want to see the girls do a
show for only an hour.  this was my gripe with fleadh.  i thought that the
girls were going to do a longer show and i sat through the rain and mud all
day to have them start playing at around 10 and end promptly at 11.  it was a
great show and tracy chapman was good as well, but i probably wouldn't do it
again because i'd rather just wait for an indigo girls show instead of a
festival.

as for merchandising, i love to shop and i wouldn't have minded picking up
some cool stuff at fleadh, but all they had by way of girls stuff was 2 or 3
t-shirts.  i would have liked more of a variety; maybe a bumper sticker.  yes,
i know someone was offering them on the list, but when i go to a festival or a
street fair, i like to buy something--all i did was buy their overpriced food.

in any event, i'm skipping lilith this year...in my short time as an indigo
girls fan (almost a year!), i've seen slam and fleadh and i would love to just
see an indigo girls show, without what seems like millions of opening acts.

of course this can be the 35 year old in me---if i was in college like so many
of you on the list, i would certainly enjoy spending a sunday hanging out all
day at a rock show :)

wmntime

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hey y'all,

i haven't seen this posted up here so i decided that i would.  on the
lilith site it says that the indigo girls will be on a club tour this fall
with other women artists playing each other's songs.  and a local
publication also verifies plans for the rolling thunderpussy revue to tour
clubs late this summer into early fall.  this is amy's old idea that she
thought of with ani, i believe, so maybe she'll be there as well.  damn,
wouldn't that just rock!

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    jen wrote -

entraced :))  em and amy didn't
> talk very much during the show, but something very funny amy said
sticks out
> in my mind.  amy said something like, "well, i guess this one goes
out to ermo
> highschool!!" and then they broke into "it's alright"  right on!

lmao - thats the best!  thanks for sharing that one!  what a hoot -
that's cool...*lol*

take it easy -

sunny - who, with all this talk of lilith, is completely looking
forward to it!  (and to having $60 worth of fun! or more...heehee)
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hey all--
well, despite all the controversy surrounding lilith sponsors, i am still
one happy chick that i'll be seeing our lovely women tomorrow and the
next day in san francisco. :)  i'm not gonna let levi's guilt bug me now,
however maybe it's something to think about before i buy my tickets next
year...
i also have to share more ig joy--yesterday i went into this damn cool
record store thinkin' maybe i'd look for that sys cd--didn't find it
then, but i *did* find shades of indigo. :)  i was stoked.  and then
*today*, i went back to the same store simply because i was bored--no
other reason (i graduated saturday, and now i've got nothing to do). :)  i
didn't expect to see much because i was just there
yesterday, but to my utter suprise, they had the red sys cd for 4 bucks.
good lord, i'm in a good mood! :)  i swear, i'm gonna go in that
store every day now!  well, maybe not *every* day, but still... :)
anyway, i just had to share my joy.  gotta go home now and paint my sign
for the girls!
and you folks going to sf lilith tomorrow--if you see a
tallish chick with short brown hair, in a daemon records t-shirt and an
ig cap, screaming her lungs out from the 7th row, that's me--say hi!!! :)
i'll be there on wednesday too--screaming from the 6th row, wearing some
other sort of ig attire. :)
later :)
leslie h.

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yikes - honestly - i haven't had the chance to read the article on
lilith - i am not so sure i care to read something that slams the
girls...hmmm- but to inform myself...i will read it later on tonight
or tomorrow morning...

i really am looking forward to going to lf - i didn't go last year -
but i'd like to experience it at least once - i've really only been to
one festival type concert - i didn't get in to buying the pricey food
and drinks - we were able to bring in our own - and honestly - the
music is what got me there in the first place - and that's what gets
me jazzed abt lf.

i can't even speak to the levi's issue yet - can't make an uniformed
statement (on my part) - i'm all for rights and humanity and
freedom...and fairness - i do know that...soooo if anyone wants to
'throw' (or email) some info my way...(re:  levi's and of that
nature...) i'd totally welcome the knowledge...

take it easy -
sunny - an openminded woman who wants to learn more...and more...


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>
>     jen wrote -
>
> entraced :))  em and amy didn't
> > talk very much during the show, but something very funny amy said
> sticks out
> > in my mind.  amy said something like, "well, i guess this one goes
> out to ermo
> > highschool!!" and then they broke into "it's alright"  right on!
>
> lmao - thats the best!  thanks for sharing that one!  what a hoot -
> that's cool...*lol*
>
> take it easy -
>
> sunny - who, with all this talk of lilith, is completely looking
> forward to it!  (and to having $60 worth of fun! or more...heehee)
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i have a funny little story that is actually kind of upseting, totally non-
indigo related..

so, after being at the ani concert in nyc on sat,  i come home to my nice
house on long island, only to find we are going to the city on sun to see
jekyll and hyde, which if you live in the ny area, go go go, it was great....
  anyway, we are driving through manhattan, and there is obviously some sort
of festival.. now me being the person that i am immediately notices that the
balloons are rainbow, and there are rainbow flags and some banners from pno
(planet out) and lgny (lesbians and gays of ny) and gee, a whole bunch of  men
walking around and women walking around, but not together if you get my
drift.... so my littel sister looks at the balloons and says, whats going on
mommy, and my mom and dad tell her that its like teh city's anniversary or
something... so i just started kind of laughing and they were like what so i
said, "umm.. i think it's gay pride day..." then i point all the
aforementioned things out and they are like, wow how did you know that, i just
had to roll my eyes and say well you know, june is gay pride month... and all
this time i thought my parents were aware of the world around them, i guess
they really don't have lives outside of me and my sister!! ; )
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rob hite wrote:

> and a local publication also verifies plans for the rolling thunderpussy
> revue to tour
> clubs late this summer into early fall.  this is amy's old idea that she
> thought of with ani, i believe, so maybe she'll be there as well.  damn,
> wouldn't that just rock!

   funny you should mention this rob.
     i was just reading the july cmj and they will indeed be hitting clubs in
late august. amy comments  "it's only ten shows, and it's rock clubs, not big
places.  it's going to be the same basic lineup, but we're going to have
guests..."


    i'm anxious to hear exactly when & where these dates are.  anyone out
there hear anything about this yet?

    peace & love,
    jules

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>
> take care
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rob hite wrote:
<blockquote type=cite>and a local publication also verifies plans for the
rolling thunderpussy revue to tour
<br>clubs late this summer into early fall.  this is amy's old idea
that she
<br>thought of with ani, i believe, so maybe she'll be there as well. 
damn,
<br>wouldn't that just rock!</blockquote>
   funny you should mention this rob.
<br>     i was just reading the july cmj and they will
indeed be hitting clubs in late august. amy comments  "it's only ten
shows, and it's rock clubs, not big places.  it's going to be the
same basic lineup, but we're going to have guests..."
<br> 

<p>    i'm anxious to hear exactly when & where these
dates are.  anyone out there hear anything about this yet?

<p>    peace & love,
<br>    jules

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<p>take care
<br>rob
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except it wasn't the actual gay pride parade...it was the rally.
the actual parade is this sunday from 11a-11p *beams*
i'll be there *bounces* my first :)

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i talked to kai today at wrfg and ordered a couple copies of don't eat
out of dented cans. she said they still have " ... a couple of cases" of
them yet and to pass the word. they're $10.00 each. sounds like a deal
to me :)

>the indigo girls performed live for wrfg on "what the folk" radio show in
>1986 and the release of "don't give up on me, baby" is on the 1987 album
>"don't eat out of dented cans" that is still available at wrfg. request may
>be sent to wrfg 89.3 fm, 1083 austin avenue ne, atlanta, ga 30307 or call
>404-523-3471, ask for kai aiyetoro for more information.


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        hey all... ( whiping off the scorch marks from my last download...
yikes ) if'n i could *fit* a pair of levis these days... well, you know...
        uh, after that there "mcdisney wal-mart" comment in some one body's
post just moments ago, i am almost loath to make comment on this... but hey,
what the heck, i will anyway.( kim hurriedly dons her handy dandy asbestos
flame retardant underwear, just in case she *somehow* offends *someone* with
her inocuous ramblings ( not to mention her lousy spelling + incredibley
poor understanding of just *how* to use those there punctuation marks... )
<---prime example:-)and flexes her tapping finger in preparation....)
        uh... right, here goes; see, my gf was in a calgary wal mart ( kim
ducks ) this afternoon, and she grabbed up a copy of the wal-mart profile on
entertainment. she did this because on the front was a picture of canadian
country singer + eye candy extroidinaire, terri clark + we both just love
the woman... anyhoo, she brought it home for me + we opened the thing up
looking for new info on, and pics of, gorgeous lil' ol terri. what we
stumbled across, however was a major bonus in our minds...a picture of amy,
emily, and an article about lilith fair, written by a fella named james
morrison. after all the negative comments etc about lilith fair on the list
today... it was nice to read this very positive article... and in a wal-mart
mag of *all* places:-)
        anyhooo... it's a good read pples... if'n you can get yer hands on
one, do. the pick of a+e is fun too...
peace all... kim

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>>>>>>> winona wrote.....

date:    mon, 22 jun 1998 16:44:03 -0500
from:    winona patterson <wpatter@bmimetronics.com>
subject: how embarrassing...

i have to tell you all this, because you will understand...i work in the
office section of a manufacturing plant.  one of the women who works on
the floor is named maria, and she is a dead ringer for emily saliers!
(except she's a bit shorter and thinner, but you get the idea.)  today,
when i said hello to her, i actually called her emily!  she looked
puzzled, and i just told her that she reminded me of someone else i
know...but now i feel really tiny...yikes!  i feel so embarrassed!
anyone else have a similar experience?
>>>>>>>>


i say, yep... i've made several friends through my gf, and one of them,
renee, is a dead ringer too.  early on, when i first met her, i couldn't
stop looking at her.  i even felt odd in her presense.  i was shy.
sheesh, what is my fanship coming to?!  but, it's not that renee
doesn't add to this hype, at least indirectly.  she's been told by
several people that she looks like em.  (when my gf told her i think
this, she didn't act very surprised.  i felt kinda dorky, though, that
she found out i thought this.)  in fact, she also plays the
guitar, sings similar to em, and knows and does em songs, being a
big ig fan too.  she's got the blonde hair like em, a smile
like em, a face similar to em's, and a body similar to em's, although
she's a teeny bit heavier.  now, i know her well enough to know she's
as sweet as can be, and i like her a lot  for her being her.  i've
dropped
the em fascination thing.  hee hee.

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<<   lilith so generously donates 1.00 of each ticket sale to charity, but
they made 16 million dollars and donated 700,00.  wow really generous.  i'm
being sarcastic.  i think that really sucks.  but i guess its better than
nada.>>

i just wanted to throw something in.  yes they made 16 million which is an
enormous amount of money.  but when you donate money to a worthy cause, any
little bit helps even 20 bucks.  have you ever donated money or a charity and
gotten the utmost thanks in return ?? i have, even if it was 70 times less
than the lilith donation, and took a year to plan....at least sarah and the
organizers didnt pocket it all. does anyone know where the proceeds from
ozzfest are going ???  i have a random question, does anyone know if this is
the number before of after all the artists and crew and expenses were paid ???

basically we are starting to slam an event that whether we like it or not has
done wonders for women in music.   i dont know why i feel such a need to
defend it (although i am not trying to defend corporate sponsorship) i just
feel like because of lilith i see other acts in my hometown that are offered
exposure that they normally would not have been offered.

<<but, i am going again this year because i love sarah and ig..keep the
darn rappers, but i'll put up with them to see ig and sarah.  i'm
disappointed in sarah's choices for performers this year, but i figure
60 bucks covers 2 concerts and those are the 2 groups i am going to see. >>

maybe we should all be going to support women's music in general.  once again
i know  this isnt the first festival of its kind, but i cannot make the trek
to michigan.  plus this is not all about the music of sarah and ig.  i hope
that for those of you who do not like r&b or rap will also remember the kind
of fans we bitch and moan about at ig who talk the whole time etc.  i also
hope yall will put up with the rappers because  even if you dont like that
kinda music,  because i heard missy  elliott puts on a damn good show and i am
willing to bet any amount of money she will be 10 times more entertaining than
the cardigans were last year... i hope you all will give her and the other r&b
acts a chance. at the tibetan freedom concert, wyclef jean and a tribe called
quest blew away bands like the wallflowers...i know i am starting on a
tangent...so i will stop... i guess none of my thoughts are really making
sense right now, but in my opinion it is definitely gonna be worth the 114
bucks i paid for two shows especially if i get to see emily jammin with missy.
in em's words...."phat..."

peace
sasha

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well, i read article about lilith fair in new times, and there was one
part of it that really bothered me.  it was on page three where johnette
napolitano talks about the lilith's image being static and the music
becoming pass~.  later in the article there is some talk about grunge
rock going out of style and so will this "category" of music.

i couldn't disagree more.  i believe just the opposite is going to
happen.  i feel that the female musicians that are out there today are
inspiring young girls to pick up instruments, write songs, and take
chances more than they ever did before.  i believe that festivals like
lilith fair will eventually (as young female musicians mature) produce
the critical mass needed for female musicians to have a real say about
what happens in the industry.

i have always loved music.  music is a part of me the same way my eyes
are blue; it's just so.  i picked up my first guitar in 1963 at the age
of three.  around that time there weren't many female musicians playing
instruments and fronting bands.  once janis became famous she put down
her guitar.  tina sang and danced, but she didn't play either.  karen
got pulled out in front of her drum kit and was told to just sing.  i
was somewhat aware of joni because my mother admired her, but when
you're ten she seems a little out of reach.  if only i had a malone,
ray, saliers, etheridge or difranco to inspire me.  girls today have
these role models, and lilith fair brings them to the forefront.

it's a shame ms. arnold just doesn't get it.

gabrielle v. michalek

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in the article on lilith, the author wrote ;

" where, some critics ask, are the breeders,...... ?"

uuuuuuhhhhhhh........... in rehab ?

;)
claire

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in a message dated 98-06-22 23:07:45 edt, jill writes:

<<  ...the manifestation of this disgusting imperialistic capitalist
consumer-driven, goods-hungry patriarchal bastardized society we call
the usa, .........<snipped for bandwidth consideration>........this is
people.
being exploited.  being used.  forget about sarah... think about the
people being paid shit and working such long hours under such conditions
to make levis.  it's really insensitive and naive to just say "if you
don't like it, then don't go, so there.")  >>

soooo ...... couldn't get tickets eh ?
bummer.
];)
claire

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folks,

please, do not quote other peoples' entire messages when
replying to the list.

also, i think it might be time to take the lilith/levi
debate to private email...

thanks,
sherlyn
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> it's really insensitive and naive to just say "if you
> don't like it, then don't go, so there.")  >>
>
>soooo ...... couldn't get tickets eh ?
>bummer.

heh.  no, actually, i got some long ago, thanks to don "king of igohio"
richards.  but the nastiness that levi's, and other corporations like
it, is up to (which i didn't know about till, oh, a week ago, long after
the tickets were bought) is really making me ashamed to be an american.

(i love how one can go off on a tirade about the injustices being served
by our country, trying to get people to think and feel....and their
words are chalked up to silly jealousy.  talk about futility.)

oy vey (and yeah i've misplaced my sense of humor on this deal, sorry if
i sound mean, claire),
jill

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rob wrote:
>a local
>publication also verifies plans for the rolling thunderpussy revue to
tour
>clubs late this summer into early fall.

being that rob's also an ohioan, i'm guessing he saw the write-up in
scene magazine ('northeast ohio's entertainment weekly') that carol and
i found.  here's what it says:

(in the grapevine column)
"...speaking of lilith, the venerable estro-fest may have some
competition this summer-- from the indigo girls.  co-headliners of last
summer's lilith, indigo girls amy ray and emily saliers are putting
together their own version this summer-- the delicately titled rolling
thunderpussy review.  so as not to compete directly with lilith-- on
which the girls will still appear this year-- the thunderpussy tour will
be a late-fall, largely east coast affair..."

(them durn baigls get all the luck)

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on mon, 15 jun 1998, carol ann wrote:

> oooohhhhh....
> south pole jam too!!!!!
>
> mustnt forget that last continent......
> warm up the hearts of the researchers with ig......

   sounds like fun to me!

   i-i'm t-t-tryin' to t-t-ell-l you s-somethin' 'bout m-m-y l-life...

   darius

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does anyone know when they will be in houston texas?  it's been a while
and i'm getting antsy!!! gotta see them soon!  thanks!!  suzette

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3 cds to take to the desert island would be:

swamp ophelia
ingenue - kd lang
late night grande hotel - nanci griffith

michelle

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anyone see the show in atlanta or charlotte and can give a review?

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ok, with all the slinging going on about levi's fair and all the e-mails
to me from people saying "you mean levi's isn't a great company?" i
thought i'd share some facts.

first off, levi's has always prided itself on it's reputation as an
ethical and progressive company.  way back in the day, levi's was one of
the very first companies to use african american/black models.  levi's
was one of the first companies to use openly gay models.  levi's was one
of the first companies to advertise in national black and gay magazines
(essence, advocate, etc.)  finally levi's helped opened the door to
domestic partnership issues.  seems like an ethical company, eh?

now, after tiennemann square (june 1989), levi's pulled out of china in
early 1990 citing human rights abuses.  in response they establish
"country codes" which are minimum standards for a country to meet before
they will do business within that country.  since indonesia, malaysia,
vietnam and other se asia countries didn't fit those, they began pulling
out of them also.  however, in early 1997, levi's underwent a change of
heart (in many aspects of it's business).  the first discrimination
lawsuit was filed by a women who was denied a promotion, she took to
them court and won.  levi's abandoned it's "country codes" and began
investing heavily in indonesia, vietnam and malaysia, but not china.
finally, in january of this year, levi's conceded that they had
"recently" opened several factories in china.

in march of this year, benjamin dexyl's team (works for un's office on
human rights) prepared a report on the levi strauss company.  in short,
his team concluded that levi's was 2nd only to nike in their treatment
of third world labor.  he likened levi's looms to the "guillotine's of
the french revolution" because so many workers are being maimed.  other
reports have alleged rape of female workers by management.

the problems with lilith fair aren't about how much money they make.  i
don't care about the money.  everybody has a right to a fortune if they
want it.  so long as they come by it honestly.  sarah and the gang
aren't.  they're coming by it, on the backs of women in the 3rd world.
somebody said, but lilith gives so much to charities... yeah, but at
what price?  women being maimed and raped?  god help us all.  somebody
said, lilith provides opportunities for female musicians... yeah, but at
what price?  if this is "opportunity" for women....i don't want it.
women getting somewhere in this world by destroying the lives of other
women.  is there not something sick and wrong with this picture???

finally, i'd like to say that i've been working on human rights in south
east asia since my first trip there in 1991.  nike and levi's are the
problem....huge problem.  but nike and levi's wouldn't be the problem if
there weren't people here in america who say, "oh, it's ok so long as i
get my cheap nike shoes or my cheap jeans."  the destruction of human
life is never worth the cheap price of material possessions.  i wish
there were more people on this list like larissa, like corey, like
casey, like myself who won't be going to levi's fair in protest.  i know
ig is playing (they're playing 4 shows in my local area, but i won't
go).  seeing ig play 1 more time isn't worth it.  deep in my heart, i
would hope that ig would agree with me.  protesting about tibet, about
chiapas, about high school cancellations and bigotry is more important.

i would strongly urge everyone to fuck levi's and not go to lilith fair.

thanks for listening to me ramble, but i'd gotten enough individual
messages that i felt a post to the list was in order.

cheers,
l'sly


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in a message dated 98-06-23 01:18:47 edt, gm1l+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:

<<  it was on page three where johnette napolitano talks about the lilith's
image being static and the music becoming pass~.  later in the article there
is some talk about grunge rock going out of style and so will this "category"
of music. >>

hmm... so i'm guessing that this washes away my hopes of ever seeing johnette
play @ lilith. :(

grumble, grrr, and getting back to dorothy allison's 'cavedweller',
  rick
who wishes to tell everyone that patty griffin's new release, flaming red is
due out today!!! go get it!!!!! :)

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date:         tue, 23 jun 1998 09:54:48 -0500
reply-to:     winona patterson <wpatter@bmimetronics.com>
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hey, y'all, my hubby and i are looking for someplace interesting to go
on vacation in august, just for a week.  any ideas, anyone?
winona the wandering traveler...

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date:         tue, 23 jun 1998 07:47:06 -0700
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lynda raina wrote:

> and to add to the conspiracy that neil finn and amy ray are
> actually the same person..... wait for it......the first 3 words on
> the cd are.....
>
>                hand me down...!
>
> see this proves it..!!!!

have you ever seen them at the same time in the same place?  i don't
think so!

;o)

-kate  :o)

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just jill wrote:

> (and this isn't an issue of attacking sarah m., it's an issue of *human
> rights.*  some people are turning this into one of those "if you don't
> like it, don't go" threads.  this is not that simple.  this is people.
> being exploited.  being used.  forget about sarah... think about the
> people being paid shit and working such long hours under such conditions
> to make levis.  it's really insensitive and naive to just say "if you
> don't like it, then don't go, so there.")

um, i'm the one who said "if you don't like it then don't go," and i'm not
being insensitive or niave.  the article's main thrust was that lilith
wasn't featuring the sort of music the author of the article would have
liked to have seen, not who is sponsoring it.  it mentioned levis' human
rights abuses once and for the rest of the time, when it spoke about the
corporate sponsors, it just said that lilith was all about making money.

the reason i said "if you don't like it then don't go" is in response to the
people like the author of that article who bitch and complain that acts like
7 year bitch and sleater-kinney are not involved.  if it's not your kind of
music, there's a very simple remedy:  don't go to lilith.  that's what i'm
doing and it's working very well.  another thing the article did was to
bitch about the fact that other women's festivals aren't making as much
money.  my response?  don't bitch because lilith has a great marketing
team.  if other women's festivals aren't making as much money, then there's
a simple remedy to that, also:  get a better marketing team.

as far as the levis thing is concerned, that is an extremely valid issue and
one that the article barely touched upon.  i would like to hear what sarah
and ig and the organizers have to say about it.  however, that was not the
thrust of the article and was not what i was responding to.

please think a little before you flame me.  i don't deserve it.

-kate

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hi,
just thought i'd share my rather trivial observations - whenever i read
the initials soy, i think of "soylent green".  wasn't that the movie set
in the not so distant future, where planet earth runs out of food, and
humans are "recycled" for consumption?  sorry if this has been
discussed, but i'm rather new here.  it also brings to mind the dancer
at this year's grammy awards - the soy bomb man.
elaine

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>>it was also poorly organized, had to buy 4.00 sodas, 6.00 sandwiches, etc. <<

i don't think that the price of concessions is set by the artist - that has
mostly to do with the venue - right?

i know when lilith came to my hometown the drinks and food items were priced
the same as when don henley came or steve miller.

i agree that planning needs more attention but i don't think the pricing is
part of sarahs responsibility.

b

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> the actual parade is this sunday from 11a-11p *beams*
> i'll be there *bounces* my first :)
>
> --audra

woo! enjoy it! i did my first pride the other week (scotland), and it was
beautiful, all the rainbows and the drummers and waving at people. you
have to wave and blow kisses at people watching the parade to see if
they'll be nice and wave back.

sharon

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i know this should go to private mail but i'm not sure who all is involved
in this discussion.  this is my first post in probably a year or so.  so
hello to my friends out there...i'll probably make some enemies with this
one, but oh well.

do people have any clue how much it costs to run an entire tour?  these
bands are hardly making any money at all, compared to touring
individually. they need the corporate sponsorship becuase it can cost
between $1000-$5000 a day just to run one tour bus.  multiply that by the
5 headlilning bands.  that doesn't even include all the staff and crew
that they have to haul around, house, feed, and pay by the show or hour.
remember there are several people behind the scenes who make this show
possible who also have to make livings.  then don't forget about the local
crew, too, along with security.  there are many hands in this pot, not
just the stars'.

if you want to wage complaints, it should be to the entire entertainment
system, or at least all the other tours who make tons of money because
they only have to pay one crew and run one bus or take care of only 1
band. duh. come on poeple,it's simple math. without the sponsorship, there
would be no tour, if there's no tour, there's no charity money.  i can see
not going if you want to protest levi's, but if you're going to go that
far to make a point, you might as well write a letter to the organizers of
lilith fair and at least tell them why you're not going.  they're honestly
not going to miss you unless they know why you're not there...

lilith makes more money than other women's festivals becuase they travel.
yes, but they pay out much more of that money because they have to pay to
travel.  it's expensive to run a tour and if you think touring is fun and
games, it's also a real fucking grind to live out of a suitcase and sleep
on a bus and be away from your family, etc. the michigan women's fest,
etc. are usually in static places, a one shot deal.  lilith goes on for
months so we don't have to travel great lengths to see them.  think about
how much it costs one person to fly cross country/get a hotel, etc., just
to go to the newport folk festival or wherever.  now multiply that by the
200+ plus crew that travels with lilith.  it's not cheap to entertain this
way.  melissa etheridge knows this, which is why she's not on the tour.
she can make a lot more money touring by herself.

be passionate about your politics, be informed, but don't slam lilith
organizers for accepting sponsorship.  levi's politics sucks and i'm
bummed because 501's are a staple of my wardrobe.  sure they could've
accepted another sponsor, but they didn't and that was their choice.  if
you're going to protest lilith, you may as well protest every other show
because i can guarantee you from working at this year's lilith and on
other shows, that other tours are making a ton more money than sarah m.
and her cohorts.

if you don't like it, organize it yourself, or at least offer proactive
ways to remedy the organization of it instead of just criticizing and
protesting it without allowing them to know why you're even doing so...

my experience from behind the scenes,

happy day all,
carolyn  :)

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with all the posts reviewing lf's up to now, i am just dying sitting
here at my desk, waiting for 1pm when i can leave work to drive up to
shoreline!  all of your posts have definitely helped me make it through
the past week...can't believe it's here already!

btw, last chance for tix for tomorrow's lf at shoreline...i still have 2
upper-reserved seats i need to unload on some lucky soul (i
unfortunately cannot attend again tomorrow).  $42.50 each.  email me
privately if interested (i'll get my email until 1pm and then again
after midnight tonight)

happy days!!
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in a message dated 98-06-22 21:46:34 edt, jillyc@hotmail.com writes:

<< who cares?  i mean, if those nike ads reach one,... just one girl's
heart and soul and inspires her that she "can," then so what if nike is
using female slave labor in third-world countries to make the shoes?">>


forgive me if i'm simplifying this a bit too much, but ok, levis supports
lilith fair, and jane doe indigofan supports lilith fair, they are both
suporting women making music and their right to be heard.  that's a good
thing.  levis uses female slave labor in china.  that's a bad thing.
therefore, go to lilith fair and enjoy yourself, and don't buy levis jeans!
by all means, fight against injustice and for human rights, but i think you
can do that and support women's music (even if it is mainstream stuff) too.
or maybe i'm just crazy....

west of bishes
shana

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date:         tue, 23 jun 1998 12:57:41 -0400
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sorry if i'm wasting bandwidth, but i'm still ocnfused about something.

ok, let's assume levi's is a bad company.  so i'm not going to buy any
jeans from them or contribute any money to them.  yet i'm also not
supposed to give money to any causes which they also give money to?
how does levi's benefit (or how are they hurt) by whether or not i go to
lillith.  if lillith was a benefit for them, then i would understnad this
point, but...should i not watch letterman because i saw a levi's ad on it
last night?  should i not shop at macy's because they also sell levi's?
if i found out that levi's was donating money to (say) habitat for
humanity, should i stop building houses for them?

i have no problem with people being political and choosing causes to stick
with...i have my share myself.  and if you want to boycott lillith
because "it shouldn't have any sponsors whatsoever", then that's a
speerate issue that we aren't debating right now.and i have no problem
with boycotting levi's...after what i've read i intend to, but it does bug
me when people get carried away irrationally, and unless i'm missing
something, that's what this seems like to me.

anyways, i won't post on this topic again...i just wanted someone to
explain this point to me...

of course, that's just my opinion.  i could be wrong.

darren, who isn't going to lillith because it doesn't seem worth the
money in the first place as he didn't really enjoy it _that_ much last
year...

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<< > the actual parade is this sunday from 11a-11p *beams*
> i'll be there *bounces* my first :)
>
> --audra

(then sharon wrote-)
<< woo! enjoy it! i did my first pride the other week (scotland) >>

yee-haw! first time pride!!

i'm flying up to atlanta tomorrow for my first one, as well!! can you say
psyched??

:) peace,
  rick
listening to: patty griffin/flaming red

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okey dokey pokeys...got my boalsburg tix in the mail today...all 3 of
them...aaaaah, can't wait. so...now the question is -- who else is
goin'?!  i haven't heard much talk about it...it's comin' up. :) e-mail
me privately and lemme know...we need to get the listmeet talk goin'. ;)
i wanna know who has been there...what's tussey mountain like?! etc... i
saw a measley little picture of the actual ampitheater on the net and
it's not lookin' too shabby. :) general admission, here i come!
yes...i admit it...i'm lookin' forward to lilith fair comin' up on the
5th.  (yeah, i know this is supposed to be taken private...but, i'm not
posting in response to anyone in particular...therefore, there's no one
to write to...i'm just postin' my thoughts...minus the defensive
arguin', this would be a damn good discussion :) i'm not about to let
the joy of *last* years experience be overshadowed by all of the shit
that's flyin' *this* year.  i don't give a rip...i just wanna hear good
music.  nobody's (musicians *or* audience members) there to support the
exploitation of women...we all *know* this full well. ("hip hip hooray!
three cheers for the exploited levi's makers!!!!" come on!  how
realistic *is* that?!) there will *always* be something wrong with
*everything...* haven't we figured this out by now?!  those of us who
expect a perfect fricking world aren't ever gonna have it.  *i* know
what the indigo girls support...*i* know what sarah supports...and
that's why *i'm* going...we all know full well that they don't fall into
the categories that we're debating.  i'm going to lilith to support the
musicians that i love...not the corporation whose sponsorin' the sucker.
now, arguing this is not going to change anyone's mind...we all have our
own opinions, and there's really no getting around that.  now...stop
arguin'!  either go...or don't go...it's your choice...cuz, man...this
is america.  love it, or hate it...it's your bag, baby.

bethany :)

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wow!

we just got back last night, and had a great time. the gorge
amphitheatre is spectacular, kinda like it's perched on the rim of the
grand canyon, or as eryka badu remarked "like one of those paintings by
the white guy with the afro".

sinead rocked! i'm gonna have to buy some of her albums now and listen
to 'em. one song (don't know the title) started off with her singing a
cappella, then her band joined in one-by-one until it sounded like a
choir. beautiful! it was like a huge outdoor cathedral.

her cello player broke my heart. she's georgeous and plays with such
passion and energy that i was covered in goosebumps despite the heat!

eryka played next, and was really the only artist to speak to the crowd
much. she explained the parts of an ankh (that egyptian symbol that
looks like a cross with a loop at the top) to us: the loop represents
the womb, the cross bars represent the fallopian tubes, and the bottom
represents the male member, at least according to eryka. the whole thing
adds up to equal life.

i enjoyed her speech, but i don't really get into her music.

next, the band we drove 350 miles to see: indigo girls!

and they brought jane scarpantoni! i'm in love with cello babes.......

the sound guys really need to pay attention though, they had the cello
turned way down on the first song, and her monitor wasn't loud enough.
jane was pissed! she kicked one of the monitors and turned to the sound
guys with a look that scorched the paint on the scaffolding. such
passion! anyway, after the first song they got the sound right, and you
could hear everyone.

where the hell is sara lee? some new guy was filling in for her, and
he's ok, but i really wanted to see sara. she's my favorite bass player,
nobody does it like sara lee......

the girls were fantastic, and did an epic version of chickenman. even
without sinead it would have been an epic version of chickenman, even
without the incredible river gorge setting it would have been an epic
version of chickenman. but all together, wow! em was playin' her ass
off!

i don't have a set list, i was way too busy enjoying the music and
checking them out with binoculars to take notes.

natalie merchant was next, and she was havin' a great time! singin' and
dancin' all over the place. eliza fell in love with natalie, it's hard
to resist her dancing, and that voice!

sarah m. finished things off, but in truth, i was already done. i just
wanted the ig to play for 3 hours...... they're a hard act to follow.


some notes on the gorge amphitheatre:

        bring a big-ass water bottle (you can refill it at several locations
inside, and the $2.25 bottles they sell are tiny)

        bring an umbrella (for shade) that sun is intense, and there is not
much shade inside

        bring lots of money - everything is expensive

        find somewhere else to camp, because the campground is crowded and
windswept. (the koa in vantage has a lower campground right by the river
that is cool! you can actually get into the showers and bathrooms, it's
not as crowded, and it's prettier)

        if you have reserved seats, show up as late as possible. we got there
early, doh! the later you park, the sooner you can get out. we had to
wait 3 hours or so, but at least some people in the parking lot were
drumming and playing harmonica - that was cool.


philip

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let me know if you want me to tree it for you. all i ask is a copy of the
tape to do it. i have no problem with treeing any of these tapes for
people.

i am the head of the soy remix tape with both the red and blue on it. i
have the branches tapes to copy them onto. as soon as i get the tape for it
which should be today i will get those copies copied and back to the
branches to start coping them for people.

i am still on the look out for the red and blue soy cd's. if anyone comes
across an extra one of either one of these keep me in mind. i will take
them off your hand in a flash that is how much i want them for my cd
collection of the girls and my collection as a whole.

just sent out a check today for "don't eat out of dented cars" i can not
wait to get it back.

missy

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date:         tue, 23 jun 1998 14:55:54 -0400
reply-to:     "karen l. frey" <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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okay, i am outta my lilith funk/disappointment over corporate america,
of which i have to include, i am a part of and i think i am so pissed is
that the system shit all over me.  the company my husband owns 1/3rd of
just knocked the hell out of me and drove me out (not my hubby, btw, his
one asshole partner and his butt licking cronies)

anyway...got a new job, starting at the same pay, about 15 hours a week
less work, and the greatest news is that i am (my search has paid off)
the proud owener of "don't eat out of dented cans", jcs cd, red and blue
sys eps, blood & fire...you guys and gals....surf the net!  its all out
there, email me privately for the best hint of all

love, karen

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yeah...less than 24 hours till when i leave my japanese class early to
gead down to the south bay to see the girls!  wow!  it's hard to believe
that they're *in* san francisco right now!  maybe i should hit the town
tonight with hopes of seeing them...nah...they'll be tired from today's
show and they'll need to get ready for tomorrow!

anyway, for those of you who will be theren (geez, i am seeing the girls
in like 24 hours, i can't believe it!), i'll be in the 5th row (thanks
mollie, you rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!) wearing my blue ig summer 1998 hat, and (if
it is a bit warmer) my gotm green shirt.  i'll probably have my green,
red, yellow, and black bag and i have an eyebrow ring.  come say hi!

:-) karen

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"san francisco has only one drawback. 'tis
hard to leave." (rudyard kipling)
"the prize is always worth the rocky ride."
(indigo girls, e.s.)
"i am the lorax, i speak for the trees, i
speak for the trees for the trees have no
tounges."  (dr. seuss)
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tower last night had more free ig postcards, but i don't want to take them
and offer them up to the list because of my problems with berkeley mail.
sooooooo...if anyone is in the sf area, the tower on durant st. in
berkeley has some of those postcards.  and i am sure that there are still
some left at every other tower store.  good luck finding them!

:-) karen

ps- i still ahven't gotten any envelopes for my past offer, please e-mail
me if you sent me an envelope for the cards, and tell me when you sent it!

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in a message dated 98-06-23 13:01:42 edt, jillyc@hotmail.com writes:

<< the thunderpussy tour will
be a late-fall, largely east coast affair..." >>

dammit!  why doesn't anything good ever come to the gulf coast????  this
sucks.

~~tigger (overly excitable between meals.)

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in a message dated 98-06-23 11:07:22 edt, you write:

<< seeing ig play 1 more time isn't worth it.  deep in my heart, i
would hope that ig would agree with me.  protesting about tibet, about
chiapas, about high school cancellations and bigotry is more important.
  >>
does anyone know if either amy or emily have addressed the criticism of levi's
sponsorship of lilith?  their past actions indicate that they do not take such
things lightly and i would be curious about their response.  i think that
lance's points are extremely well-articulated and am now glad that ig is not
playing the lilith fair here in dallas.  that's one less question of
conscience i have to face today!

peace,

pam

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im wonfdering, did people just send them a check for the cd, or should i
call?? thanks!!

                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
                                   jeanette
            http://members.tripod.com/~jeanettelynn/jeanette.html

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                            is wrong with me
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                            i love in me
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february 13, 1988 -- creative loafing

musicians 'at home in atlanta' band together for our house
the indigo girls spearhead a benefit concert in an effort to break the cycle
of homelessness

by tony paris

"you have to wake up and be at the soup kitchen at 7 in the morning to get a
good meal, or, you
have to be at the construction site early in the morning to get a job. you
either get to eat, or you get
to work," amy ray of the indigo girls says, describing a basic plight of the
homeless. "then, if you
have a kid, that's another choice you have to make." that is, you either
eat, work, or take care of
your child.

"the children's issue is a pretty big deal," ray continues. "people don't
understand it because you
don't see a lot of kids walking around the street that you can tell are
homeless - and you don't see
the babies, either." but according to a report by the homeless task force in
atlanta, children under
6 make up the fastest growing population of homeless people in metro atlanta.

atlanta has one homeless day care center, the atlanta children's shelter, in
downtown atlanta, but
it's facilities are not adequate to accommodate the multiplying numbers of
children who have
nowhere to go during the daylight hours when the night shelters are closed.
to combat this problem,
our house, inc., a non-profit day shelter for homeless children in dekalb
county, is preparing to
open in march to meet the needs of the 50 to 60 children living in the seven
night shelters in the
dekalb area. but there is an immediate need for funds to renovate the
building our house will
occupy on columbia drive. to that end, the indigo girls (amy ray and partner
emily saliers) have
organized a benefit concert to raise money for the completion of the day
shelter.

"kids have a place to go at night," ray notes, "but they don't have anywhere
to go during the day.
they can go to the soup kitchens, but their parents still have to be with
them," which means the
adults are unable to go look for jobs. "with our house, the homeless will
have someone to look
after their children as well as help them find jobs," the musician explains.
one of the features of our
house will be an on-duty counselor who will help find jobs and housing for
the adults, if they don't
have them, so that when the kids have a place to stay, the parents will be
able to go out and look for
work.

"this is supposed to break the cycle so that, if the children have somewhere
to stay, and their
parents can get a job, they [the children] can learn the work ethic - that
they are supposed to work
and stay off the street," says ray. "that's the main idea of this shelter,
to break the cycle. that's why
we're interested in it."

the benefit the indigo girls have organized is being billed as "at home in
atlanta." in addition to
their own performance, those scheduled to appear include michelle malone,
kevn kinney of drivin
'n' cryin and caroline aiken, who will open the show. but it won't stop
there. a number of other
atlanta musicians and singers have agreed to participate, and will be
dropping in throughout the
evening. ray says the reasons their names are not being added to the bill is
to avoid confusion, since
the special guests will not be performing full sets, but playing one or two
songs or jamming with the
featured artists.

"we want it to be a musician's community project," she emphasizes. "we want
everybody who
wants to be involved, involved in it." among the other musicians who've
expressed interest in playing
at the benefit are gerard mchugh, angela motter, rache alpert and buren
fowler, with others
from atlanta and athens probably showing up.

benefits are nothing new to the indigo girls. indeed, in their 4-year
existence, they have lent their
names and talents to numerous causes, a gesture not to be taken lightly
considering the following
they have built in this city with the release of a single, an ep and, most
recently, an album, strange
fire, which radio listeners cannot avoid hearing if the dial is tuned to
album 88, wras-fm.

meeting with them one afternoon last week, however, i found that saliers and
ray - the bill they
performed under for three years prior to ray's coming across the world
"indigo" in the dictionary -
did not want to talk about themselves too much. what they wanted to do was
make sure people
were aware of the upcoming "at home in atlanta" benefit.

in talking with them, it's obvious they've built a long- standing friendship
and respect each other as
people and as musicians. they can joke with each other one moment, finish
each other's sentences
the next. and as much as they're often described as two totally different
types, ray (the outspoken
extrovert rocker) and saliers (the quiet, introverted balladeer), the two
women proved themselves to
be more alike than not.

they started the conversation by discussing their benefit work.

ray: we do about eight or 10 major benefits a year. plus, we do smaller ones
at emory.

saliers: we're doing one in chapel hill for the appalachian service project
and habitat for
humanity. we're supposed to play at a rally at the end of february for the
homeless. everybody's
focusing on that. it's kind of neat.

ray: except...

saliers: the overkill?

ray: yeah. but doing benefits is good. it's one night that you would have
had off, or you would have
played for money but, big deal. we'll do any benefit that seems worthy.

saliers: if you're busy during the day and you don't have a lot of time to
do volunteer work, or if you
don't have a lot of money to make contributions, it's the musician's way to
make a contribution. it's a
social responsibility. i hope that social responsibility hasn't gotten
trendy, but people do things from
their hearts.

ray: we are real adamant about this benefit, about who plays. everybody that
plays has a part in
the promotion of it and in helping do the dirty work, like putting up
posters. everybody's got to help.
it's the only way that you can feel like you're doing a benefit. someone who
just shows up and
plays, that's no big deal. so we are using everybody in some way to help in
another way -
announcing at their shows, passing out fliers, any way to help out.

creative loafing: what do you think of this new wave of social
responsibility among bands?

ray: i think some of it is jumping on the bandwagon, and some of it is a
reaction against reagan...

saliers: ...and things seem to be getting worse as the nuclear age grows
older and political tensions
continue to mount. there've always been things like that, but they seem to
have been escalating
lately.

creative loafing: do you think your audiences respond to your benefits and
go away with a better
knowledge of whatever you're playing for?

saliers: we have a pretty sensitive and socially aware audience.

ray: i'd say 50 percent of them walk away with a real knowledge of why they
came. i mean, a real
understanding and a real concern when they may not have had it before.

saliers: the fact that they even buy the ticket shows that they're thinking
about it, when they could
spend two bucks and see us at another place in this town, but they're
willing to spend 10 bucks.
that is, if they are just coming to see us, not including all of the other
musicians who are so
wonderful to come play.

ray: also, i think people underestimate the masses sometimes. i mean,
everyone's not stupid, and
they are going to know why they are there. i think people pick up on it,
through subtle mentions like
handing out pamphlets at the door, not necessarily giving lectures from
onstage, but having each
person mention something about it without being too overbearing.

creative loafing: people always refer to the polarities in your music and
personalities. do you agree
with this yin and yang overview? do you think it works to your advantage?

ray: i don't know. maybe it works to our advantage, but there's a lot more.

saliers: people just take what hits them in the face, and a lot of those
general descriptions are what
might hit someone in the face if they came to see us for the first time.

ray: but we're really a lot more alike than we are different, probably.
aren't we?

saliers: as people, we are.

ray: i mean, in values...

saliers: yeah, values. musical tastes. they are different, but people play
up on those differences. i
think it's been to our advantage.

ray: it's been to our advantage, but you get sick of it being the main deal.
we're supposed to be a
unit. we're really different, but, we want to be thought of as a unit. but
it's come to the point where
every article separates us. i guess we really are different, onstage and
with our music, so i guess
that's why it happens. but then, it's hard, if you write a song in the other
person's style. people start
expecting things of you.

saliers: even though people play up on those differences, i think the bottom
line is that even though
those differences are so blatant, something comes together in the performance.

ray: our live show is the main thing. if someone listens to the record and
has never seen us live,
they're not going to understand. they may think the record's real good or
something like that, but i
don't think anyone's going to understand the energy unless they've seen us
live. that's the biggest
problem that hits us. live, it shows you how two totally separate styles of
songwriting can work
together. i don't always scream and shout, and emily doesn't always sing
ballads. we do what each
other does, too.

saliers: yeah, that's the only problem with those comparisons and differences.

ray: on our albums, it may not come out, or it may be produced in such a way
that everything kind
of blends, instead of people seeing the energy that pops out. emily's real
energetic, and nobody ever
says emily hops around on stage. she dances around as much as i do.

saliers: one article made it sound like i was in my own world.

ray: yeah, like she just sits in a chair while i do cartwheels on stage.
both of us put energy into this.

creative loafing: the two of you do everything on your own, don't you? you
do a lot more than
just play onstage.

ray: we like being in control of our own destiny; i think that's why we're
doing it. it does take a lot
of time, but we don't want to make a big deal out of it. the only reason why
we do it is because i'm
obnoxious and i don't like anybody else to do anything. i always tell emily
that if we don't do it
ourselves, it's not going to get done. that's a really bad attitude,
but...i'm getting over it. i'm learning
how to loosen up, from emily teaching me.

saliers: but, you know, the more you have control over your situation, the
less you want to give up
any of that at all. even the bigger it becomes, the less you want to give
up. especially if you feel like
you're at a critical point in your career, which i feel we are. i mean, i'm
not in a hurry to get a record
deal, but it would be nice to know how record companies respond to this music.

ray: when we got the album, we mailed it out to about 250 stations between
the two of us. then
we did the follow-ups. and we mailed 'em out to the press to try to get
reviews. and bookings,
we've always done our own bookings. we've done it ourselves, but a lot of
people have helped us a
lot with information. you know, musicians giving us a list of clubs, people
telling us which trade
magazines to approach.

saliers: there's always stuff to do. every day.

creative loafing: you don't have day jobs?

ray: no. but we aren't rich or anything. you know how when you're a musician
and you start
making a living from music, people start thinking you're commercial? they
kinda look down on you?
i was kind of having that feeling this year, like people knowing i didn't
have a day job, and kinda
feeling like we were riding high because they see how many people come out
to our shows at the
pub, but it's not really like that. we lose money on the road.

saliers: i don't feel guilty about making money. i don't feel guilty about
being able to pay my bills.

ray: when you start doing well, though, people think that you're selling
out. i mean, no matter if you
don't change or not. i mean, we haven't changed any.

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sorry to post this to the list, but i was wondering if anyone knows
anything about the venue, like exaclty where it is located and what the
setup of the grounds are ect.  please e-mail me privately if you have any
info.  thanks!!

peace,

lin

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i probably shouldn't be replying while wearing my silvertabs...

i have been thinking a great deal about personal activism quite a bitr
lately. i was, as you may remember offered a all expense paid trip to dc for
a conference this week - i also have an incredible job and couldn't take the
time off. friday - this is not a joke - i was notified i was invited to the
white house as a participant of this conference, which made me reconsider if
i would have taken time off or not.

now i love human rights and think it is disgusting that the president is
going to tianamen square on friday, but - hell, it's an real honor to be
invited to the white house - for any reason. i did not not go because of
some political statement - i worked hard to get bill his second term (and i
met him before.) but for the practical reason that i'm in a intense training
period and i need to pass this training to keep my job - and it really
wasn't addressing my needs asd a academic on disability studies. i could not
afford time off. while alice walker wrote far more elegantly (and i agree
with her on the cuban embargo) i guess some day i may be invited to go to
the white house again. it is critical not to rail against the mainstream so
much as it is to educate people on the problems with the mainstream. now i
say this from a very secure point in my life but, yelling in someone's face
isn't going to change their opinion - nor is flaming people endlessly -
however - the people who posted the *legenthy reasonable* history of levi's
caught my attention - i had thought they were pretty progressiver myself -
now i have a bit more info.
that's my .02
peace - remember 6/4/89 - tianamen sq.
mike r.

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jeandigo gyrl wrote:
>
> im wonfdering, did people just send them a check for the cd, or should i
> call?? thanks!!


  - hey folks, please go to the lifeblood site at
http://home.earthlink.net/~underdog3/lifeblood/releases/dentedcans.html
and read about the record. it's not a cd. it's a vinyl 33 1/3 rpm
record.
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                        -- indigohio '98 :)

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>ray: yeah, like she just sits in a chair while i do cartwheels on
stage.
>both of us put energy into this.
>

i wanna see this!!!!   i wanna see amy do cartwheels!!!  i'd like to see
emily do some tricks too though......maybe emily can balance on the
chair on her tiptoes...on one foot.  other leg back...sorta like she's
gonna fly.......
yeah
carol

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>and read about the record. it's not a cd. it's a vinyl 33 1/3 rpm
>record.
>--
>
>                                dr
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its a vinyl record!!!!  i've *always* wanted a ig record.  (ok...so i
haven't *always* wanted one...but for quite awhile i have......)
carol

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hey gang!

i'm unsubbing for a week while i head up to atlanta... if there's anyone out
there who might've taped either erykah badu or me'shell ndegeocello at lilith
and is interested in a trade, please drop me a line off-list!

thanks! have a great week everyone!!
  rick
*leaving on a jet plane...*
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i almost cried at the end of this interview.  i know it's trite to say, but
they are so incredibly awesome and real.  if anyone deserves success, it's
indigo girls..

wmntime

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in a message dated 98-06-23 18:43:47 edt,donrich@neo.lrun.com writes:

<< and read about the record. it's not a cd. it's a vinyl 33 1/3 rpm
record.
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my 13 year old niece would probably say "what's a record?"  to her a record is
probably what an old 78 record was to me! - lol

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date:         tue, 23 jun 1998 16:55:35 -0700
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yes, i understand it isnt a cd...i put that cuz i was in a hurry...i know
its a record..thanks

                  with  love, and all things indigo

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                                   jeanette
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hey you all, i did alot of cutting and pasting, sorry, but i got so many
requests on my successful hunts, i started answering each individually
and then my fingers got tired.  i hope you all have as much luck as i
did!

ig or die!  (just kidding, nothings worth death)

love, karen

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i know what a record is, but no longer have the advise to play them. i sent
a check to the radio station today thinking it was a cd. now i am going to
have two lp's i can not do anything with. any suggestions on what to do
with don't eat out of dented cars when i get them. i will probley keep one
and i need to sell the second one. missy

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hey!

for those of you in the area....i found the red sys remix at ameoba
records in berkeley.  i was going to buy it to offer it to someone, but i
had no money!  sooooooo....for any of you bay area people who don't have
it yet, i bet they'll still have it (and if not, they'll probably have
another one soon...that is where i got mine).  go and grab it!

:-) karen

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hey kind friends,

a question. . .today i was looking through olga (on-line guitar archive)
for some music and i noticed two songs listed under ig that were not at
all familiar--half moon cafe and high horse, both written by emily. i've
heard ig perform every other song that was listed, either on an album or
on one of my boots, but i've never heard those two before. anyone happen
to know anything about them? particularly where i could find a recording?


i know there's got to be some wise, knowledgable listee out there who
could enlighten me. . .

peace, love, indigo, and all good things,
kristina :o)

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first, in response to darren's e-mail, he wrote:
<<<ok, let's assume levi's is a bad company.  so i'm not going to buy any
jeans from them or contribute any money to them.  yet i'm also not
supposed to give money to any causes which they also give money to?
how does levi's benefit (or how are they hurt) by whether or not i go to
lillith.  if lillith was a benefit for them, then i would understnad this
point, but...should i not watch letterman because i saw a levi's ad on it
last night?  should i not shop at macy's because they also sell levi's?
if i found out that levi's was donating money to (say) habitat for
humanity, should i stop building houses for them?>>>

i'd take the hard line approach.  if you're going to lead a moral
life....lead it!  but more importantly darren asked how levi's benefits
from lilith.  well, to everyone i'd say, there's a reason i've been
calling it levi's fair for 3 weeks now.  because it's not about lilith
anymore.  this fair truly is an advertisement for levi's....just like a
tv commercial or a magazine ad.  at the bryant park kick-off they gave
out a handbill of sorts.  the cover was a levi's ad.  page 2 was a letter
from the president of levi strauss talking about how great levi's is and
only mentioned the word lilith once.  page 3 was the only actual lilith
content.  the back cover was another levi's ad.  at the bryant park kick
off, the levi's ads were bigger than anything else there....including the
performers, the drum kit, the lilith signs, the speakers......everything.

should we shop at macy's because they carry levi's?  well, yes and no.  i
personally write letters to the stores where i shop if they carry
products that i disagree with.  if they continue to do horrible business
practices, i boycott.  i haven't shopped at walmart in over 6 years since
they continued their made in the usa campaign but failed to deliver (try
to find something at walmart that's made in the usa).  should we stop
watching letterman?  no, but we should send him a letter saying levi's
advertising isn't what you want to see.  should we stop building for
habitat, no.  but we should educate the people who administer habitat
about what levi's is up to.

but the real issue is:  what is this world we live in?  do we believe amy
and emily when they tell us about this being a global community?  do we
support them when they tell us that injustice in chiapas is injustice
everywhere? is their music just music or is it political also?  some
groups are just music (hanson, spice girls, milli vanilli, etc.) and
others are political (ig, u2, peter gabriel, sinead, tracy chapman, lou
reed, midnight oil, etc.)  for better or worse, ig is in the second
group.  they are forever intertwined with the politics.  we can't extract
their sexuality from the music because it has influenced them so much.
we can't extract political activism from the music because it's the
message.  pull out any ig album and look at the political songs:  soy,
sys, least complicated, love's recovery, everything in it's own time,
problem child, this train revised, everything in it's own time, scooter
boys, pushing the needle to far, jonas and ezekial, bury my heart at
wounded knee, dead man's hill, galileo, the new karla faye tucker
song........need i go on?

ig has established a precedent of being a political group.  it's why i am
attracted to them and their music.  if they loose that, what will they
be?  let's ask an even simpler question, if ig supports the levi's fair
by playing at it, will their music still have the power and credibility
that it has in the past?  i frankly don't know if it will or not.  but
i'm staying awake at night and losing sleep over this one.

this isn't a simple issue.  we're dealing with big complex things here.
we can talk about it til we're blue in the face, but it doesn't change
the fact that ig is on levi's fair and injustice is being half-way around
the world.

l'sly

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hey.

so i was surfing tonight, and i happened upon the newport site.  and now i
*really* want to try to attend.

i have a few questions, and i was wondering if there was anyone out there
that could help...

1)  is it accessible from public transportation, i.e. bus, train, etc, or
do you really need to have a car to get there?  i don't have my license
yet, but i am planning on getting it soon.  i can probably have access to
a car for that weekend, but being an unexperienced driver, i wasn't
thrilled at the prospect of driving all the way out there by my lonesome
in unfamiliar territory.

2)  do most people attend for both days, or just one?

3)  is there anyone from the albany, ny area that might have room for an
extra passenger or might want to carpool? i'd even be willing to
travel to boston and go from there.  it's not a problem.  just
wondering...

anyway, if you can, please impart your wisdom in private e-mail, or if
you think it's relaly useful info, pass it on to the list...

thank you sooo much.

kelly

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yeah, i know an amy (kind of) look-alike. she used to play softball with
me, but she's  on another team now. she's short, though. but it's those
eyes and the scruffy, low voice. it's weird every time i see her. or
maybe it's me that's weird.

peace,
amy

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sorry to use the list this way but have lost the address for r. wicker
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thanks for the postcard which i did get... [ann]

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i received this from the radio station:

the price for the "dont' eat out of dented cans"  is $25.00 + $2.50 per
album for shipping & handling.  for more info on the album, check out the
goodies section of our website at http://wrfg.home.mindspring.com

thank you,
kai aiyetoro

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hey all...im planning on moving in the near future, and i want to get rid
of some tapes, cds, singles..im trying this before i head on over to the
used cd store..please let me know if youre interested so i can send you a
list...cheap, very cheap...and i dont wear levis...

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carolyn wrote:
>
> i received this from the radio station:
>
> the price for the "dont' eat out of dented cans"  is $25.00 + $2.50 per
> album for shipping & handling.

  - wow! i'm really confused. that's not what she told me yesterday.

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so tonight i turn on the news and hear that there's going to be a small
segment on lilith fair.  okay, the way it was advertised made it look like
they were going to interview artists (and not just sarah mclachlan), but
it was not like that at all!

yeah, of course sarah was interviewed.  she just quickly talked about the
name lilith and about what she wanted to accomplish (i didn't quite catch
this part b/c my housemate was talking to me, but something about
non-radical feminists...uh, okay...) by putting the tour together.
then the reporter just talked about some of the items for sale at lilith
(nothing about ig promo cd or anything cool like that).  then, it was
over.  (oh, he did say that lilith was sold out tonight, but i'm not sure
if it is tomorrow...).

i was really surprised that they did not at least mention the acts playing
at the sf shows.  i mean, this was the *local* news.  there was no mention
of ig whatsoever.  in fact, it was kind of a crappy and dissappointing
segment.  he said *something* about 'chick' music.  ummmm...excuse me.

i am going to lilith tomorrow, but i do have some criticism of the tour
(nothing that has to do with levi's or corporate sponsors or anything like
that).  however, since the girls are playing, i am going.  but i think
that the whole segment on the news really made me understand why i do have
a few slight problems with lilith fair (and i do not want to get into this
debate.  sherlyn already told us to take it to private mail, so there is
no need to post flames to the list....).  i don't know, that is just my
opinion...

anyway, see some of y'all tomorrow at lilith...

:-) karen

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hey folks,

kristina asked:
> all familiar--half moon cafe and high horse, both written by emily. i've
> heard ig perform every other song that was listed, either on an album or
> on one of my boots, but i've never heard those two before. anyone happen
> to know anything about them? particularly where i could find a recording?

"high horse" is from the original "strange fire" release of 1987 -
it was one of the tracks that was cut (along with an early version
of "blood and fire") in favour of the cover of "get together" when
epic re-released sf in 1989.  if you have a copy of the tape of
emily's band hash at atlanta pride a couple of years back, there's
a pretty smokin' version of the song on there...

i believe "half moon cafe" is from somewhere around the same time
period as "high horse", but don't quote me on that.  it's floating
around on boots, so if you keep an eye out you may come across it.
you can find the lyrics at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~underdog3/lifeblood/lyrics/halfmoon.html

-sherlyn, who's grumpy and breathing paint fumes, mmm-hmm.
i love closed-environment offices...
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i wrote an e-mail to them trying to get my check returned after i found out
how much they were. so if anyone purchased it is willing to make a tape
copy of it for me. i would be happy to branch it for the list> missy

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setlist: sunday, june 21 at the gorge

three hits
galileo
scooter boys
get out the map
chickenman with sinead o'conner
it's alright
shed your skin with natalie merchant's trumpet player
        (a woman!! --sorry i couldn't hear amy when she introduced her)
water is wide with sarah mclachlan and sinead
rockin' in the free world with k's choice
closer to fine with everyone who had played/sang with them so far;
        sarah had one verse, tara mclean had another and the trumpet player
filled in for sara lee's pennywhistle solo

the bass player's name is dave richards.
as philip already noted, jane scarpantoni was playing cello.
and of course, jerry marotta on drums.


while i can't speak for those with reserved seating in sections a and b,
i do know that ig got a standing ovation for every song from the folks
in section c because we stood for the entire performance-- i think this
is a fair measure of how glad we were to see/hear them.

as for how beautiful it is at the gorge amphitheatre (in eastern
washington), i think amy must have been in similar places when she
wrote: "everywhere i turn all the beauty just keeps shaking me."


elizabeth

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date:         tue, 23 jun 1998 23:08:05 pdt
reply-to:     just jill <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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subject:      i love you kate mulhern!!! from jill
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okay, i know, this is annoying, but can i please do this publicly?...

i wrote:
>>it's really insensitive and naive to just say "if you
>> don't like it, then don't go, so there.")

then kate said:
>um, i'm the one who said "if you don't like it then don't go," and i'm
not
>being insensitive or niave.
>the reason i said "if you don't like it then don't go" is...  if it's
not your kind of
>music, there's a very simple remedy:  don't go to lilith.
>please think a little before you flame me.  i don't deserve it.

!!!!kate, i wasn't referring to *your* post when i wrote that!!!  i
understood where *you* were coming from; my problem was with the people
who were saying that in regards to the levi's issue, not the music
diversity/taste issue.  i'm sorry if it seemed like i was flaming you in
specific, or just any one person especially.  the "you" was a communal,
plural "you", aimed towards those dissing the politics of it. you're
right, you don't deserve flaming for your post... i wasn't torching
you... i'm sorry chicky.  /:}

jill

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hey folks,

sorry if this has been covered, i'm a little behind (as usual) in reading
the list, but i have at least tried to scroll through the subject list and
haven't seen anything mentioned about this!! aren't we , the list, doing
something in honor of emily's birthday, which is coming up in a month!?

if this has already been covered, would someone please email me privately
with the info? if it hasn't, shouldn't we be lighting a fire under our
butts?

happy lilith fair to one and all!

peace, laura

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date:         wed, 24 jun 1998 16:49:20 +1000
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hey folks,

i found the message below on the newsgroup
(alt.music.indigo-girls).  please note i know nothing about
this company, so buyer beware...

-sherlyn

==
from: asounddeal@mindspring.com (a sound deal)
subject: a sound deal--> indigo girls poster and flyers for sale
date: tue, 23 jun 1998 22:07:05 gmt
newsgroups: alt.music.indigo-girls


we have the following posters and flyers for sale
as well  as a wide selection of posters, flyers. and handbills
from 1967 to the present. check us out at
http://www.mindspring.com/~aspud/asounddeal/
or see our post at rec.music.marketplace.misc for the full list.

indigo girls   6-30-97 at mesa amphitheatre,mesa,az..6x8..photo        $3
indigo girls   4-13-95 at toledo masonic aud..6x8..printed..photo..nice     $4
indigo girls   8-26-96 at mesa amphitheatre,mesa,az..6x8..photo        $3
indigo girls   2-4-98 at union hall,phoenix..6x8..photo        $3
indigo girls   1-30-95 at uno arena,new orleans..7x9..printed..photo..nice  $4
indigo girls   1-30-95 at  uno arena,new orleans..11x14..photo..nice   $6


all paper items are identified by band name, date of show,
concert hall, city, size, printing format, and price.
printing formats are: "printed,""silkscreen," and "xerox,"
format is  original xerox unless otherwise noted.
"photo" indicates photo of the band is the main image on the handbill.
"split flyer" refers to more than one band headlining on same flyer
page numbers with kozik posters refer to "man's ruin, the posters & art of
frank kozik"

all are originals and are guaranteed to be in vg+ condition or better.
$5 minimum order.  priority postage on most orders in u.s is $3.
please include destination country when ordering.

ross
a sound deal records and posters
http://www.mindspring.com/~aspud/asounddeal/
image samples:
http://www.mindspring.com/~aspud/asounddeal/images

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subject:      san franciscans???  heeeelp meeeee...
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....well, okay, actually, help my friend.  she needs a ride to see ani!
you have a car!  she will bake you cookies, supply you with
oh-so-scintillating car conversation, some money (oh did i say the magic
word?), limbs, babies, the usual.  if you do me/her this favor, i will
throw in some boots, kinda-sorta-psychedelically-bad photos of the girls
i've taken, my undying love, some random cool baubles (ask karen frey,
she knows all about my baubles) from oberlin's co-op bookstore, some
pride stuff from cleveland pride, whatever.... (can you just *smell* the
despondency?!) you name it, wonderful peoples, and it magically becomes
yours!!!  and all this, plus that warm-hearted glow you'll get knowing
you're bringing a lovely girl and her g/f closer to their lil'
folksinger....  <sniffle>
(oh hey did i mention her g/f knows the girls?!  not that this fact has
any bearing on anything, but wouldn't it make you feel even better to
know that you'd be helping the girls' acquaintance's girlfriend???  um,
okie.)

all able residents of berkeley/ san francisco or thereabouts with some
form of private transportation, please email me nowwwww.

you know i love you. <flutter of the eyelashes, flash of the dimples>
jill ;)

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hey folks,

i found the article below at rocktropolis -
http://www.rocktropolis.com.  it's a little old but i don't
recall having seen it before...

-sherlyn

===
june 05, 1998

zack de la rocha plans spitfire spoken word tour
kris novoselic, exene cevenkova, amy ray expected to join

fans wanting a more direct route to learning about their favorite
artists will have just that opportunity when the spitfire tour
comes to 15-20 major market college campuses in late summer and
fall.

co-conceived by rage against the machine's zack de la rocha, salt
lake city promoter jason farrell, and a group of friends over a
thanksgiving dinner, the spitfire tour is a spoken- word trek
where musicians, actors, and artists will discuss topical issues
of great importance to them. after the monologues, there will be
a one-hour question- and- answer session during which the
audience members will have a chance to speak directly with the
participants.

while the tour is still in the planning stages, artists who have
been confirmed include current sweet 75 (and former nirvana)
member krist novoselic, who will serve as the moderator at each
stop; mtv personality (and republican) kennedy; x's exene
cervenkova; the indigo girls' amy ray; and mighty mighty bosstones
frontman dicky barrett.

also expected on the tour, but not yet confirmed, are the always
outspoken jello biafra, ani difranco, public enemy's chuck d,
director michael moore (roger & me, the big one), and actor woody
harrelson with activist todd mccormick.

a representative for san francisco- based promotion company on
board entertainment, which is helping to put the excursion
together, says they expect it to hit "politically active college
campuses in major markets, like brown university or ucla... it
will be interesting to see which colleges want us."

in addition to the spoken word aspect, there will be video
presentations, djs spinning, and booths. the on board
entertainment spokesperson likened it to a "spoken- word
lollapalooza." the tour is expected to kick off at the end of
august and go through september, moving from the east coast to the
west coast.

-steve baltin

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i think i've been on the list long enough to start a new thread :)  so here ya
go:

if you were trying to turn a friend on to ig music and you had to do it in one
song -- what would it be?

i haven't decided yet.  :)

peace,
lisa j.

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hey...as hard as this is...with all the songs there are to choose from...
i think i would go with galileo - but only if i could play it for them
from the video.  they are having so much fun in that video...and there's
oh so much great stuff that i think it could win someone over :)

--audra

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                        are too tired/my mind is disconnected
                        but my heart is wired." - ani difranco
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june 24, 1988 -- the atlanta journal-constitution

michelle malone a minstrel who's always ready to play

by russ devault

because she has spent most of the last year singing anywhere and anytime she
has had a chance, no
one in the little five points pub who recognizes michelle malone is
surprised to hear her break into
song at 4 in the afternoon.

but then a few heads do turn because of the words being crooned a cappella
by the frail atlanta
singer-songwriter, who mixes solo acoustic sets with electric-guitar shows
with her drag the river
band: oh, i love you and, oh, you love me. ...

then she stops and laughs, satisfied that she has defined her music by
demonstrating what it is not
about, and isn't-love-grand songs are definitely not in miss malone's
repertoire.

instead, in original songs such as "long love century," "into the night" and
"until the day," she
sings of "blind faith looking for prosperity" and of being "the little train
that never could." satisfaction
is not readily available, but her lyrics suggest she is content to play a
stubborn waiting game.

that attitude also characterizes her original approach to being a
professional musician. but it is one
rendered passe by the progress the 21-year-old atlantan has made in the last
two years.

after being kicked out of college, pushed onstage by a friend and now
financially backed by a "real
strange guy," miss malone has emerged with "new experience," an
independently released album of
progressive rock music that is beginning to attract more than local
attention. in publications as
diverse as hits magazine and sabena airline's sphere, she has been favorably
compared to
performers as different as patti smith and suzanne vega and tracy chapman.

the comparisons do not surprise miss malone, whose influences range from led
zeppelin to duke
ellington, but the attention does. "i always had a master plan and i figured
i'd end up doing exactly
what i'm doing," she says. "i just didn't figure it would happen so fast. it
makes my head spin if i
think about it."

so she concentrates on performing, bouncing from stage to stage in atlanta
with occasional forays
into neighboring states. miss malone, who will sing tonight at the town
cinema showcase in
avondale estates and saturday afternoon during the virginia highlands
festival, shrugs off the
potential for burnout that comes with performing four or five times weekly
for months at a time.

"i also worry about paying the bills, and that's how i do it," she explains.
"hopefully, we can hold out
until fall playing this often and then just play a couple of times a month
in town."

in addition to her living expenses, miss malone's financial obligations
include paying her three-man
band and repaying the atlantan who financed the recording of her
two-month-old "new
experience," a refined version of a cassette-only collection of songs
released last october on a very
limited basis.

"i've a patron," she says, "but i'd rather not get into that. he's a real
strange guy who's not into giving
money away, but he doesn't ask me questions. he has my best interests at
heart.... "

miss malone, who spent about $7,000 producing 1,000 albums and 1,000
cassette copies of "new
experience," also says agnes scott college provided invaluable assistance by
booting her out of
school because of academic deficiencies in '85. "it was like they were
saying for me to go off and do
whatever i had to do."

she was, she says, a lackadaisical student who vacillated between medicine
and philosophy. "i was
originally going into pre-med, and then i decided not to do that because i
was flunking biology, and i
became a philosophy major."

shortly after leaving college, she confided her long-held desire to be a
musician to amy ray of
atlanta's indigo girls band. "i'd met her at one of their shows, but she had
no idea i was a musician.
she got mad because i wasn't performing and coerced me onto the stage," miss
malone says.

it was not that difficult. the brown-haired, brown-eyed miss malone had
grown up thinking she
would someday emulate her mother, karen malone, and stepfather, steve
folmar. "she's a singer
who played around town in the '70s, and he's a drummer who teaches voice,"
miss malone says.
"when i was a kid, i thought my mother was a star and figured i'd get into
what she was doing."

she started playing saxophone in the fourth grade, picked up guitar during
her early teen years and
studied music at the northside school for the performing arts. "but none of
that got me where i was
going," she says. "in the end, i had to have somebody shove me out there.

"i had always thought you had to have everything perfect - like it was on a
record. i wasn't ready to
experiment onstage, but i finally realized the only way is to get up onstage
and make a fool of
yourself. i let the music take over and i think it's taken a pretty good
course."

her path is being followed with advice from tony paris, music editor of
creative loafing and a
former tour manager for the atlanta rhythm section. he became her manager
after being "blown
away" by listening to her tape and then seeing her perform last fall. "he's
really into what i'm doing,
and he knows a lot about what he's doing," miss malone says.

paris has helped with bookings, provided occasional creative input and some
much-welcomed
encouragement for miss malone, but she harbors no great expectations.

"if i keep going at this level and nothing else happens, i'll still know i
got this far," she says. "i'll
know that i got some attention and that someone out there knew what i was
doing and appreciated
it."

michelle malone. performing, at 11 tonight at the town cinema showcase, 106
north avondale
road, avondale estates. $5. also performing on outdoor stage at north
highland and virginia
avenue at 4 p.m. saturday during the virginia-highland festival (free);
wednesday, june 29, at 11
p.m. at the white dot, 239 ponce de leon ave. ($3); and as opening act for
timbuk 3, thursday,
june 30, at 8 p.m. at center stage theatre, 1374 w. peachtree st.($13.50).

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at 12:31 am 6/24/98 , don richards wrote:
>carolyn wrote:
>>
>> i received this from the radio station:
>>
>> the price for the "dont' eat out of dented cans"  is $25.00 + $2.50 per
>> album for shipping & handling.
>
>  - wow! i'm really confused. that's not what she told me yesterday.

yeah, that's funny since they were $10/ea. when i bought mine last week...
apparently they've rasied the price to correspond with the demand.

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i guess if i had to turn a friend on to the indigo girls i'd choose "least
complicated" cos it's nice and accessible and totally indigo in it's
sentiment (you know, "i know nothing but i love the world" type thing) -
but i guess it depends on the friend really. i mean you can tell if
someone's going to be an amy person or an emily person before they even
hear the music sometimes.

sharon

"i'm laughing, cos i'm under a starry sky, this world was meant for me"
amy ray.
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from nessun dorma, alan spence.

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> a  friend of mine sent me this one!
>
> i received a telephone call from an individual identifying himself as
> an at&t service technician that was running a test on our phone
>  lines.  he stated that to complete the test we should touch nine (9),
> zero (0), pound  sign (#) and hang up.  luckily, we were suspicious and
> refused.  upon contacting the  telephone  company we were informed that
> by pushing 90# you end up giving the  individual that called you access
> to your telephone line and allows them to place a long distance
> telephone call, with  the charge appearing on your phone call.  we were
> further informed that this scam has been originating  from many of the
> local jails/prisons.   i have verified with ucb telecomm that this
> actually happens.  i  called gte  security this morning and verified
> that this is definitely possible and do not press 90# for anyone.  it
> will give them access to your phone  line to  make long distances calls
> anywhere!!!!
> the gte security department told me to go ahead and share this
> information with everyone i know!!!
> could you please pass this on?  if you have mailing lists and/or
> newsletters from organizations you are connected with, i encourage  you
> to include this information.

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okay, so i've found my way back to the list, only to find that the
girls, as i speak, are somewhere out in the bay area that i left.  sigh.
and i wasn't homesick enough as it was (go figure...i spend 19 of my 23
years in san jose, wanting to be anywhere but there, and now i'm in this
awesome city just aching for anything familiar).

does anyone know if they have any plans to play anywhere in the chicago
area any time in the near future?  also, is anyone planning to go to
next sunday's ani difranco show at the aragon?  i think there are still
tickets available, but i haven't found anyone to go with.

oh well, back to work.

glad to be back in y'all's company.

take care,
shelley

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in a message dated 98-06-23 11:07:19 edt, you write:

<< anyone see the show in atlanta or charlotte and can give a review? >>

they kicked it off in atlanta to a great crowd thrilled to see them. wendy,
dede and jason have got it rockin' (as they do on her cd).  wendy does a few
songs solo in the middle of the show.  two thumbs up.  don't miss it.   :)

rebecca

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date:         wed, 24 jun 1998 11:41:09 -0400
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someone has probably asked this already but here goes....and please don't flame
me if it was included in an email already over the past two days.  i can't read
everything that comes thru the system.  you guys have a lot to say and i want
to read it all - i just don't get to it sometimes.

if levi's has such terrible treatment of their workers then why would amy and
emily be a part of it.  it just doesn't sound like it's there style.  seems
like they wouldn't want to be involved in lilith.

b

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date:         wed, 24 jun 1998 08:47:58 -0700
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elizabeth noted:

>while i can't speak for those with reserved seating in sections a and b,
>i do know that ig got a standing ovation for every song from the folks
>in section c because we stood for the entire performance--

we were in b, and as far as i could tell, everyone in the amphitheatre
was standing during their entire set! the girls were really the first
group of the night to have everyone on their feet through the whole set.
i was too busy dancing and singing and getting goosebumps to take notes.
thanks, elizabeth, for remembering the setlist!

did i mention that i really miss sara lee?

love,
philip

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date:         wed, 24 jun 1998 11:18:36 -0500
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pardon my ignorance, but where is miss sara?

winona the out-of-touch  :-)

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date:         wed, 24 jun 1998 09:13:29 -0700
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i am so confused..she said $10, so i sent a chack for that amount..does
that mean im not going to get it???

                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
                                   jeanette
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                            is wrong with me
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on wed, 24 jun 1998, winona patterson wrote:

> pardon my ignorance, but where is miss sara?

   solo career is what i heard.  does anybody more in-the-know have any
clue as to if she'll still record with ig?

   darius

"corporate parents, corporate towns
i know every tv set that has them lit
they preach that i should save the world
they pray that i won't do a better job of it..."
   ---dar williams, "are you out there"

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i haven't read a review yet on the list so here's a short one to get
things going.
i parked along the driveway of one of the corporate buildings to avoid
paying the $8 in parking. there's plenty of space along garcia ave but
it's a good 10-15 mins walk to the amphitheatre. showed up at the tower
records booth just a little before 4pm and was able to get my hands on a
blue sys ep (free w/ purchase of sos). i also got a bag of sony goodies
(video tape of k's choice and radio promos of mary lou lord and heather
nova). tower records was not mobbed yet at that time.
get your postcard with artist line-up and schedules at the lilith info
centre or the nettwerk booth both to the left of the entrance on the way
to the village stage. everything was on schedule but started drifting
about 10mins off around the time k's choice came on.
billie meyers on the second stage was the first of the early acts to be
really crowded. i'd never heard her but she was fun. she climbed the
poles supporting the tent over the stage. someone in the crowd said she
now looked like a spice girl (don't ask me which one).
next were tara maclean at the village stage and k's choice back at the
second stage.
i'll let someone else comment on michelle which i missed on the main
stage. erykah badu came on before ig. she's quite a character and has a
cool sound. some folks in the crowd started getting warmed up. ig came
on around 8pm. i don't have the set list here's some random songs they
did: shame on you, galileo, scooter boys, shed your skin, get out the
map. a song w/ joan baez, power of two, water is wide, rockin' in the
free world, ctf.

while they were setting up the girls equipment i took out the binoculars
to take a good look at the pictures on amy's amplifier. on the right is
david duchovny in an fbi suit, on the left is gillian anderson in a pin
up pose, wearing black lingerie. emily's pictures were much more sedate:
pets (2 cats and at least one dog) and a couple of people i could not
identify.
the crowd really got started when they showed up on stage and almost
everyone was dancing on all the songs except the slow ones (joan baez,
pof2, water is wide).
emily stood back as usual to let the crowd do its bit on galileo ("i
offer thanks to those before me, that's all i've got to say, maybe you
squandered big bucks in your lifetime, now i've got to pay") i have to
admit that we did not do a great job so i hope we'll have a better
showing on the singalong today.
someone came out to dance during scooter boys (natalie merchant?).
everyone who'd sat down during the lull in the song stood up. it was one
of the high points of the performance.
then joan baez came out on stage (imagine that joan at a celebration of
women in music!) she got a ovation from the crowd of course and did one
of her newer songs (i think) it ends with "if you offer me diamonds and
rust i'll take the diamonds" which made everybody crack up. next was
power of 2 for which michelle came out to play bass (? i should have
payed attention).
water is wide was a highlight with both joan and sarah singing one verse
with their own interpretation. it was a real kick to see them go for it
in a completely different way.
k's choice came out with some other bands' musicians to play rockin' in
the free world. noone was rocking harder than amy and emily.
a whole bunch of people came back out for ctf. once again ig created a
real fun show and were incredibly generous with their stage time.
and for those of you energetic people out there, someone in front of me
came prepared with a bunch of signs and kind of carried on a
conversation through them with emily mostly, who seemed to be reading
the signs and tried to respond to the song requests. this lucky person
asked for and got emily's pick. emily signalled to her before leaving
the stage and directed her guitar tech to give her pick away.

i'll let someone else review natalie and sarah's bit.

take it easy,

monique

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date:         wed, 24 jun 1998 12:26:01 -0400
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i am adding to jill's post which begged someone to give her friends a ride
to the ani show...

thanks to jill, i have become friends with marissa (her friend) since i've
been out here.  today (before lilitth) i am hanging posters around campus
that ask for a ride....but if anyone can help, i'll also give you
something.  maybe some of those ig postcards, or a boot (when i get home),
or something!

so if anyone can help (by the way the show is 4 july down in san jose),
please please please do so!

:-) karen (going to lilith today!!!!)

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date:         wed, 24 jun 1998 02:08:40 -0400
reply-to:     "j. k." <kshucks@juno.com>
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from:         "j. k." <kshucks@juno.com>
subject:      boot and boot of boot cd reminder

hey y'all!

        with so many of the posts on boot cds floating, i just wanted to
warn folks that there are boot cds and then boots of boot cds...the two
are practically the same in terms of actual music / listening quality,
but the latter is not considered a "collectible" because often times it
does not have the authentic cover / booklet / cd appearance that an
actual boot cd does...
        more important, do not get gipped on the costs for either type of
cd (shoot for that matter, make sure you have current market prices for
*all* "rare" cds, vinyl, posters, everything!...when it comes to indigo
girls ones, i've seen 'em on the net for sale for prices way too high &
have been gipped myself)...
        for instance, i've heard of some boot cds going for hundreds of
dollars, but boots of boot cds usually go for $25-$30...one guy who's in
the ig paraphernalia business and who knows about (low and high) pricing
of cds (and more) is joe at fortunate ones (hi joe!)...i hope to make a
webpage eventually that'll list the "cheapest prices" and places that
folks have found their ig stuff (cds, posters, et al) for as a way to
prevent others from committing the same mistakes i have in buying ig
stuff...
        if you are indeed more concerned with getting live / acoustic
music off boots of boot cds, i know of a cd store that i went by earlier
last year that had a bunch of 'em...email me and i'll make a list of the
folks interested and when i hit the store again, i'll let you know what
they have (they are into mail order, i can't remember their name right
now; they're in the atlanta area; i hope to find their name in my files;
another kind listee gave me the name of a bunch of atlanta cd stores, i
think mel?)...if demand's great enough, i may be able to even drive out
there at the end of july...take care, your friend, @=d jen

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date:         wed, 24 jun 1998 13:02:02 -0400
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what about those of us in small town usa who can't get access to decent
local bookstores? places like amazon are life savers. i would *love* to
work at a feminist bookstore if we had one within three hours of my home,
but there isn't.
     peace,
        sharoane

!!  amazon.com is just like all the other corporate
> bookstores.  i volunteer at a local bookstore here in town (the only non-
> profit feminist bookstore in the nation i might add!!) and little
bookstores
> get so shafted when big bookstores .. and now big internet bookstores
move
> into town!  y'all should support your local bookstores!  the one's that
are
> part of your community...especially feminist bookstores...there are fewer
and
> fewer all the time!

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date:         wed, 24 jun 1998 11:08:01 -0600
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hey guys...

if you would like, take a peek at the rolling stone website for an
article on lilith, and a pic of amy ray and sarah m.  the address is
www.rollingstone.com and then follow the lilith tabs. it's a review the
oregon show, and is actually quite favorable, unless you were natalie
merchant.  anyway, if you're interested, have a peek...

much love,

jo anne

"please try not to love me,
close your eyes, i'm turning off the light,
you know i have no vacancy,
and it's awfully cold outside tonight"
ani difranco

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it really depends on the friend...

pax, celeste:)

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a few months ago, someone put out a request for ig related poems.  can
that person please write me at this address?  i think i forgot to
re-send you my submission.  thanks,shelley (feeling better now)

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hey folks,

i found the article below at rocktropolis -
http://www.rocktropolis.com.  it's a little old but i don't
recall having seen it before...

-sherlyn

===
june 05, 1998

zack de la rocha plans spitfire spoken word tour
kris novoselic, exene cevenkova, amy ray expected to join

fans wanting a more direct route to learning about their favorite
artists will have just that opportunity when the spitfire tour
comes to 15-20 major market college campuses in late summer and
fall.

co-conceived by rage against the machine's zack de la rocha, salt
lake city promoter jason farrell, and a group of friends over a
thanksgiving dinner, the spitfire tour is a spoken- word trek
where musicians, actors, and artists will discuss topical issues
of great importance to them. after the monologues, there will be
a one-hour question- and- answer session during which the
audience members will have a chance to speak directly with the
participants.

while the tour is still in the planning stages, artists who have
been confirmed include current sweet 75 (and former nirvana)
member krist novoselic, who will serve as the moderator at each
stop; mtv personality (and republican) kennedy; x's exene
cervenkova; the indigo girls' amy ray; and mighty mighty bosstones
frontman dicky barrett.

also expected on the tour, but not yet confirmed, are the always
outspoken jello biafra, ani difranco, public enemy's chuck d,
director michael moore (roger & me, the big one), and actor woody
harrelson with activist todd mccormick.

a representative for san francisco- based promotion company on
board entertainment, which is helping to put the excursion
together, says they expect it to hit "politically active college
campuses in major markets, like brown university or ucla... it
will be interesting to see which colleges want us."

in addition to the spoken word aspect, there will be video
presentations, djs spinning, and booths. the on board
entertainment spokesperson likened it to a "spoken- word
lollapalooza." the tour is expected to kick off at the end of
august and go through september, moving from the east coast to the
west coast.

-steve baltin

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i am sorry to post this, but i was really disheartned to hear that joan
baez was at yesterday's lilith cause i am going today.  i really do not
like joan baez, and i seem to be cursed aganist her.  she showed up at the
lexington show...

anyway, i just really am praying that she doesn't show up tonight...
flame if you must....

karen :-)

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setlist: sunday, june 21 at the gorge

three hits
galileo
scooter boys
get out the map
chickenman with sinead o'conner
it's alright
shed your skin with natalie merchant's trumpet player
        (a woman!! --sorry i couldn't hear amy when she introduced her)
water is wide with sarah mclachlan and sinead
rockin' in the free world with k's choice
closer to fine with everyone who had played/sang with them so far;
        sarah had one verse, tara mclean had another and the trumpet player
filled in for sara lee's pennywhistle solo

the bass player's name is dave richards.
as philip already noted, jane scarpantoni was playing cello.
and of course, jerry marotta on drums.


while i can't speak for those with reserved seating in sections a and b,
i do know that ig got a standing ovation for every song from the folks
in section c because we stood for the entire performance-- i think this
is a fair measure of how glad we were to see/hear them.

as for how beautiful it is at the gorge amphitheatre (in eastern
washington), i think amy must have been in similar places when she
wrote: "everywhere i turn all the beauty just keeps shaking me."


elizabeth

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hey folks,

i found the message below on the newsgroup
(alt.music.indigo-girls).  please note i know nothing about
this company, so buyer beware...

-sherlyn

==
from: asounddeal@mindspring.com (a sound deal)
subject: a sound deal--> indigo girls poster and flyers for sale
date: tue, 23 jun 1998 22:07:05 gmt
newsgroups: alt.music.indigo-girls


we have the following posters and flyers for sale
as well  as a wide selection of posters, flyers. and handbills
from 1967 to the present. check us out at
http://www.mindspring.com/~aspud/asounddeal/
or see our post at rec.music.marketplace.misc for the full list.

indigo girls   6-30-97 at mesa amphitheatre,mesa,az..6x8..photo        $3
indigo girls   4-13-95 at toledo masonic aud..6x8..printed..photo..nice     $4
indigo girls   8-26-96 at mesa amphitheatre,mesa,az..6x8..photo        $3
indigo girls   2-4-98 at union hall,phoenix..6x8..photo        $3
indigo girls   1-30-95 at uno arena,new orleans..7x9..printed..photo..nice  $4
indigo girls   1-30-95 at  uno arena,new orleans..11x14..photo..nice   $6


all paper items are identified by band name, date of show,
concert hall, city, size, printing format, and price.
printing formats are: "printed,""silkscreen," and "xerox,"
format is  original xerox unless otherwise noted.
"photo" indicates photo of the band is the main image on the handbill.
"split flyer" refers to more than one band headlining on same flyer
page numbers with kozik posters refer to "man's ruin, the posters & art of
frank kozik"

all are originals and are guaranteed to be in vg+ condition or better.
$5 minimum order.  priority postage on most orders in u.s is $3.
please include destination country when ordering.

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date:         tue, 23 jun 1998 23:08:05 pdt
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okay, i know, this is annoying, but can i please do this publicly?...

i wrote:
>>it's really insensitive and naive to just say "if you
>> don't like it, then don't go, so there.")

then kate said:
>um, i'm the one who said "if you don't like it then don't go," and i'm
not
>being insensitive or niave.
>the reason i said "if you don't like it then don't go" is...  if it's
not your kind of
>music, there's a very simple remedy:  don't go to lilith.
>please think a little before you flame me.  i don't deserve it.

!!!!kate, i wasn't referring to *your* post when i wrote that!!!  i
understood where *you* were coming from; my problem was with the people
who were saying that in regards to the levi's issue, not the music
diversity/taste issue.  i'm sorry if it seemed like i was flaming you in
specific, or just any one person especially.  the "you" was a communal,
plural "you", aimed towards those dissing the politics of it. you're
right, you don't deserve flaming for your post... i wasn't torching
you... i'm sorry chicky.  /:}

jill

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hey folks,

sorry if this has been covered, i'm a little behind (as usual) in reading
the list, but i have at least tried to scroll through the subject list and
haven't seen anything mentioned about this!! aren't we , the list, doing
something in honor of emily's birthday, which is coming up in a month!?

if this has already been covered, would someone please email me privately
with the info? if it hasn't, shouldn't we be lighting a fire under our
butts?

happy lilith fair to one and all!

peace, laura

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i don't like her either, i think she sings wierd.  and i'm old.  41, so i'm
old enough to appreciate her if she was worth it.  just my opinion too...

peace,  karen
(who has the fire extinguisher ready)

indigo head wrote:

> i am sorry to post this, but i was really disheartned to hear that joan
> baez was at yesterday's lilith cause i am going today.  i really do not
> like joan baez, and i seem to be cursed aganist her.  she showed up at the
> lexington show...
>
> anyway, i just really am praying that she doesn't show up tonight...
> flame if you must....
>
> karen :-)
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....well, okay, actually, help my friend.  she needs a ride to see ani!
you have a car!  she will bake you cookies, supply you with
oh-so-scintillating car conversation, some money (oh did i say the magic
word?), limbs, babies, the usual.  if you do me/her this favor, i will
throw in some boots, kinda-sorta-psychedelically-bad photos of the girls
i've taken, my undying love, some random cool baubles (ask karen frey,
she knows all about my baubles) from oberlin's co-op bookstore, some
pride stuff from cleveland pride, whatever.... (can you just *smell* the
despondency?!) you name it, wonderful peoples, and it magically becomes
yours!!!  and all this, plus that warm-hearted glow you'll get knowing
you're bringing a lovely girl and her g/f closer to their lil'
folksinger....  <sniffle>
(oh hey did i mention her g/f knows the girls?!  not that this fact has
any bearing on anything, but wouldn't it make you feel even better to
know that you'd be helping the girls' acquaintance's girlfriend???  um,
okie.)

all able residents of berkeley/ san francisco or thereabouts with some
form of private transportation, please email me nowwwww.

you know i love you. <flutter of the eyelashes, flash of the dimples>
jill ;)

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hey, what day is her birthday in july?

and who's going to boulseberg?  2 suprise performers (wonder who????)  i
can't wait, then only 7 days till lilith in camden

oh isn't life grand...

love, karen

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i think i've been on the list long enough to start a new thread :)  so here ya
go:

if you were trying to turn a friend on to ig music and you had to do it in one
song -- what would it be?

i haven't decided yet.  :)

peace,
lisa j.

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on wed, 24 jun 1998, karen l. frey wrote:

> i don't like her either, i think she sings wierd.  and i'm old.  41, so i'm
> old enough to appreciate her if she was worth it.  just my opinion too...

   i'm not gonzo nuts over her...but i have a healthy respect for her.
america forgot her after "blowin' in the wind", but i think she's still
remained a relevant, if not vital, folk artist for several decades...along
with joni and pete seeger, and all that...besides, she sings with dar and
ig...  ;)

   darius

"corporate parents, corporate towns
i know every tv set that has them lit
they preach that i should save the world
they pray that i won't do a better job of it..."
   ---dar williams, "are you out there"

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no question in my mind: closer to fine

:) gina

"the less i seek my soul for some definitive
the closer i am to fine"


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> if you were trying to turn a friend on to ig music and you had to do it in one
> song -- what would it be?
>
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hey...as hard as this is...with all the songs there are to choose from...
i think i would go with galileo - but only if i could play it for them
from the video.  they are having so much fun in that video...and there's
oh so much great stuff that i think it could win someone over :)

--audra

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ghost

kim & rhea

do we have to live inside its walls to identify the cage

ferron

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> from: lisa jebsen <ljebsen@aol.com>
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> subject: one song
> date: wednesday, june 24, 1998 8:25 am
>
> i think i've been on the list long enough to start a new thread :)  so
here ya
> go:
>
> if you were trying to turn a friend on to ig music and you had to do it
in one
> song -- what would it be?
>
> i haven't decided yet.  :)
>
> peace,
> lisa j.
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        language or the kiss.......for sure...sparkie...

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i think the song would be least complicated, or love will come to
you...both are so good..my best friend played me two songs that got me
hooked- you left it up to me and galileo (they sure can harmonize!)...

                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
                                   jeanette
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can pam myers-morgan e-mail me and if daniel benjamin is on this list to
e-mail me. i have a couple of questions and lost your e-mail. missy

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hey there friends!

the sf lf was an amazing experience!  much of the ig set was covered in
another post, so i'll refrain from being repetitive but i do have to say
they rocked!!!  brought the house to their feet & kept 'em there for
most of the set.  i was dancin' like a wild woman! :)

for those who have expressed a disliking of joan baez, i too am not fond
of her, but last night her voice was like honey.  sweet, pure & not the
least bit irritating.  plus she blended so well with amy,  emily and
sarah on water is wide that it gave me goosebumps (on top of the
goosebumps i had from the cold breeze!).

anyway, yes, that was natalie twirling & whirling during sb.  i expected
more energy out her during her set.  her voice is beautiful, but her
whole set seemed sluggish.  the ig "high" i was on carried me through
natalie's set though and then sarah came on and, oh my. one word for her
- phenomenal!

the whole experience was amazing.  met many cool people, heard
incredible music (tara maclean? is my new fave), wish i could go back
tonight!  maybe i'll just save my money & follow the lf tour next
summer! (yeah, right)

cheers & happy days to all!
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hi folks...

sorry to waste bandwidth. i have something to offer up to the list.  i
was out on my lunch hour, and i found 2 copies of tori amos's "winter"
ep. i bought it for my sister, whose cd's were stolen, however, she
neglected to inform me that they had been returned. so,  i got the 2
cd's for $6.00 each and will sell them at cost plus postage. if anyone
is interested, i'll take the first 2 emails i receive.

the songs on the ep are as follows

"winter"
"the pool"
"take to the sky"
"sweet dreams"
"upside down"

talk to you later, guyses..

jo anne

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i didn't get a chance to call until today, and low and behold, they were $25
each!!!  get them now before they raise the price again!!!
lori
(very glad now she lost the ebay auction for one going for like $150)

>
>date:    tue, 23 jun 1998 00:22:45 -0400
>from:    don richards <donrich@neo.lrun.com>
>subject: re: where to find "...dented cans"
>
>i talked to kai today at wrfg and ordered a couple copies of don't eat
>out of dented cans. she said they still have " ... a couple of cases" of
>them yet and to pass the word. they're $10.00 each. sounds like a deal
>to me :)
>
>>the indigo girls performed live for wrfg on "what the folk" radio show in
>>1986 and the release of "don't give up on me, baby" is on the 1987 album
>>"don't eat out of dented cans" that is still available at wrfg. request may
>>be sent to wrfg 89.3 fm, 1083 austin avenue ne, atlanta, ga 30307 or call
>>404-523-3471, ask for kai aiyetoro for more information.
>
>


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monique barbanson wrote:

> i'll let someone else comment on michelle which i missed on the main
> stage.

michelle (spelt me'shele or something) was pretty cool.  i'd never heard of
her,and i couldn't tell you what songs she played, but i enjoyed her set.

> erykah badu came on before ig. she's quite a character and has a
> cool sound.

and she's not overly encumbered with modesty :-)  but she carried it off
well.

> some folks in the crowd started getting warmed up. ig came
> on around 8pm. i don't have the set list here's some random songs they
> did: shame on you, galileo, scooter boys, shed your skin, get out the
> map. a song w/ joan baez, power of two, water is wide, rockin' in the
> free world, ctf.

i think you got'em all.  i'm thinking i remember something happening during
sys,but it seemed like they had a parade of guests their whole set, so i may
be getting
things confused.

> someone came out to dance during scooter boys (natalie merchant?).

yup!  she danced like a wildwoman, and again later during her own set.
she'sa goddess, and i think she stole the whole show.

> i'll let someone else review natalie and sarah's bit.

like i said, i thought natalie was amazing.  i hadn't heard any cuts yet off
of her latest
album ophelia beyond what's on the radio, and i'm ready to run out and get
it.

i thought sarah seemed rather self-conscious on stage, and i didn't really
get into her set.  i heard so many people saying "if you like ig, you'll
love sarah" to me, and when my old roommate played me some of her stuff,
which i though were kinda sappy love songs, it turned me off of her.  the
show last night did nothing to change that.  not that she sucked or
anything, and i apologize to sarah fans on the list.  what did other folks
think?  maybe i didn't give her enough of a chance.

all in all, a great time!  gotta run,
tom

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i owe a danielle howle tape to someone for an ig tape and i keep losing
addresses, because i forget that aol deletes stuff after a while. i have a
tape ready to send if you can email your address again .
thanks
anthony

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my very best friend and kindred spirit is having her 22nd birthday on july 11.
we had come to know each other as great friends because of the indigo girls.
she left recently and moved away to mass while i am in ny.
since, whenever i hear the indigo girls, i think of my best friend.
i am going to see my great buddy, julia in mass for her birthday.
she called me in the middle of the night last night to tell me that she got
tickets to the july 11 show in harnor lights, boston and would only go with
me.
she even got us third row seats!
i am desperately trying to find a way to send a special message to julia for
her birthday, but do not know how to contact the indigo girls.
i amposting this in the hopes that someone will have some ideas or suggestions
for me to make my best friends birthday the most memorable day for the both of
us.
thanks
heath4791@aol.com

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hey folks,

here is the excerpt from the rolling stone review of the kickoff
lilith fair show.  you can find the entire article at
http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/news/text/newsarticle.asp?afl=rsn&newsi
d=4674&artistid=&origin=news
(no linebreak in the middle there, that's all on one line).

-sherlyn


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if mclachlan is the public face of lilith, the indigo girls' amy
ray and emily saliers are the tour's political heart. the atlanta,
georgia duo were clearly crowd favorites, and the group turned in
a strong set of hard folk with modern touches. backed by a band
that included the incomparable jerry marotta on drums, pedal steel
guitar and mandolin and jane scarpantoni on cello, saliers and ray
expanded their sound beyond the earnest everly sisters harmonies
of their albums. they were also the first band of the night to
reach out and embrace the other bands on the bill, calling
mclachlan and members of k's choice to sing on a rousing cover of
neil young's "rocking in the free world."

- steven mirkin


=== sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au ========================= a+e=ig
"all my life and all my days and all my nights surround me,
every time i needed it, the magic always found me.
and if i'm bound to all the world, all the world is bound to be..."
                                - peter mulvey

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i'm sorry to waste space, but there were so many who wanted this movie, inn
trouble, that i thought i'd just post it to the list. for those of you who
still want a copy after i tell you the price, e-mail me and i'll try to get
as many as i can (though i am sure no one will want one when they find out
how much it is!). the price is $28, plus an envelope and postage. e-mail
privately...thanks!
                                                        christy :)


"i know i'm small in a way but i know i'm strong
and it's my thirst that brought me to the water
when i give it all up then she carries me on
and it's alright"
                        -emily saliers

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last i saw of her, she was on stage with ani difranco sunday night at wolf
trap, for the encore at least.

lisa

nighthawk wrote:

> on wed, 24 jun 1998, winona patterson wrote:
>
> > pardon my ignorance, but where is miss sara?
>
>    solo career is what i heard.  does anybody more in-the-know have any
> clue as to if she'll still record with ig?
>
>    darius
>
> "corporate parents, corporate towns
>  i know every tv set that has them lit
>  they preach that i should save the world
>  they pray that i won't do a better job of it..."
>    ---dar williams, "are you out there"
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one song, hmmmm....

i think it depends on the person and the kind of music that they listen to.  i
think what finally hooked me on the indigo girls was power of two and least
complicated off swamp ophelia.  when i first got into ig, i would only listen
to emily's songs.  then i slowly started listening to amy's songs and i really
became enamored of amy, especially after i saw her in concert.  now i listen
to mostly amy's stuff, particularly off of shaming....actually, it seems like
i am starting a new thread, aren't i....

one song, hmmmmm....i don't know.  what about shame on you or power of two?

wmntime

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wow,

i'm no big fan of joan baez but i would love to have the opportunity to see
her--and on the same bill as indigo girls!  is she going to be at lilith in
ny?  maybe i should go to lilith...

wmntime

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my 2 cents...

if you feel that strongly against levi's, don't go to lilith, don't buy
levi's, whatever----
but at the same time, realize that corporate sponsorship of rock concerts, of
sporting events, of practically everything is a reality and if it's not levi's
then it will be someone else.

wmntime

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the one that hooked me was least complicated, heard it at scranton
lilith last year, the audience sang along so sweetly, it was so
goosebumpy, when i bought the album, it was wow this is me.  also,
galileo, parts of it are my life.  how long till my soul gets it right?

love, karen

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at 02:04 pm 6/24/98 -0400, karen wrote:
>i don't like her either, i think she sings wierd.  and i'm old.  41, so i'm
>old enough to appreciate her if she was worth it.  just my opinion too...

after indigo head wrote:
>
>> i am sorry to post this, but i was really disheartned to hear that joan
>> baez was at yesterday's lilith cause i am going today.  i really do not
>> like joan baez, and i seem to be cursed aganist her.  she showed up at the
>> lexington show...

hey y'all. this isn't a flame because i don't do that. i just wanted to put
in a good word amidst all this anti-joanness for one of my favorite singers
ever, not that she needs defending, mind you. just cuz i feel like typing. i
really respect joan and her music, not because she's older and a kind of
symbol of 60s nostalgia or anything insipid and shallow like that. i respect
joan and her music because there is true talent there, and also an honest
yet ordinary quality about her that makes her voice seem extraordinary.
she's also very humble and not very self-serving which is quite admirable in
my opinion. she hasn't written and recorded as many songs as say joni
mitchell, but every song she has written, recorded, and released (with the
exception of dida and children and all that jazz which i can't stand) are
lyrically very well written, and some of her best songs are just as good as,
if not better than many of emily's, amy's, and joni mitchell's songs. joan
has also done a lot for peace and human rights. i don't think anyone can
dispute that. and you know one other really cool thing about joan? she saw
bob dylan's genius and gave him to us.

i love joan's voice and i admire her strength throughout her career. she
took a lot of shit in the 60s and early 70s. looks as though she's still
taking a bit now ;) the woman is a living legend, and while all of us do not
have to like her voice, we should all respect her for what she has done in
music and for her lifelong activism that has inspired so many to go out and
try to make the world a better place.

i'll shut up now :) have a loverly day, y'all.

jendy

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i recently made a tape of mostly women singers for a friend of mine who pretty
much only listens to r&b music.  i wanted to broaden her horizons a bit.
since it was a mix, i could only put a few indigo songs on it.  (darn!)  these
are the ones i picked:
burn all the letters
power of two
least complicated
blood & fire
galileo
it was so hard to pick!!  also on this note, the two people i've "converted"
<g> in the past were won over by "romeo and juliet"!!  there must be something
about that song!
take care-
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i think that the best song is the fugitive, from swamp ophelia.  i have
tickets to see them at musikfest.  is anyone else going?

eddie

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sara played when doves cry with ani the other night at wolftrap...she looked
real cool i might add...

peace
sasha

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just one thing for all those joan haters... i am not gonna go on long... so
just bear with me for a sec.  i see no reason to "bad-mouth" ig related folk
musicians... i mean, fine if you dont like them, but i dont think it is
necessary to post about it... cuz this is first of all (well supposed to be)
and ig list, and 2nd ly... we all like to keep our disscussions positive... i
mean, that is why we are here right?  cuz we all love ig and we are all happy
people!  dont forget what mr. garcia said... "nothing left to do, but smile,
smile, smile."  and i am sure that is how amy and emily would like it also  :)

oh yea, one last thing...   for you joan haters, just listen to one song for
me, would ya?  it's on her cd called "ring them bells" and yes i do realize
it's a bob dylan song, but i dont think it get's much more beautiful than the
song she sings with the indigo girls on there called "dont think twice".. give
it a try!  what an awesome voice she has... hmmm, strangely, it reminds me of
emily...

take care, and all comments can be written to gi troop@aol.com
we wouldnt wanna piss sherlyn off would me!  she might get us!
he he he

trooper

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joan often shows up at one of the ig shows (i have never seen her show
up more than once even if ig is playing multiple dates if that can
reassure some of you guys out there). even if you don't dig her music,
she has a great personality and it's worth it just to see amy and emily
beam great smiles at her when she comes on. after her song, amy gave her
a real hug (full body contact) for a long time. she obviously likes her
a lot. those are the moments that make a live performance special.


enjoy,

monique

wmn time wrote:
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> wow,
>
> i'm no big fan of joan baez but i would love to have the opportunity to see
> her--and on the same bill as indigo girls!  is she going to be at lilith in
> ny?  maybe i should go to lilith...
>
> wmntime
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i just want you to know that while i personally don't prefer her music,
there is no need to bash an artist.

eddie

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in a message dated 98-06-24 20:18:23 edt,       joanie1@ufl.edu (joanie) writes:

<< e woman is a living legend, and while all of us do not
have to like her voice, we should all respect her for what she has done in
music and for her lifelong activism that has inspired so many to go out and
try to make the world a better place.
  >>

exactly.  i mean, how can we even talk about women's music without giving her
the respect she deserves.  and this is from someone who knows only one of her
songs: "the night they drove old dixie down" from '71 or so.  i'm not even
sure if she wrote it, but i know that she had a hit record with it.

wmntime--who's deciding that it's time to buy a joan baez record

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my favorite song changes from day-to-day.
right now it is a toss up between 10k wars and galileo.

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deb wrote:

> yeah, that's funny since they were $10/ea. when i bought mine last week...
> apparently they've rasied the price to correspond with the demand.


  - thank you so much deb. i couldn't figure out how i could have fouled
up on the price so badly, ... i feel much better now. :)
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just thought i'd pass on a website.

>and now for today's cool web site...

>votenet

>http://www.votenet.com

>many of us want in our heart of hearts to be politically active,
>follow the issues we hold near, and research each candidate and
>referendum thoroughly before we cast our vote. the problem, however,
>is that few of us have the time to see these things through. that
>excuse just lost some of its validity with the recently unveiled
>votenet site. track your local congressperson's voting record, select
>issues that matter to you, sign up for e-mail notification of related
>developments, get politicians' contact information, join some lively
>discussion groups to help you formulate opinions, and much more on
>this well-designed soapbox.

take care,
leslie

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in a message dated 98-06-17 14:57:05 edt, alisont@netcom.com writes:

<< 07/10/98  boalsburg  pa  tussey mtn. amph. >>

ok, since school is now over and i can now start intermitantly posting, i'm
gonna make a great impression and proceed to whine, snivel, and beg.  now that
there's the precedent of that san francisco story, i don't feel quite as bad
about it though.  so here's the story:  this boalsburg show is roughly four
hours from where i live in south jersey, and is on my birthday.  now, call me
crazy (for most people i guess this concert excursion would fall under that
catagory, but i thought some of you could relate), but i really want to go to
this concert.  the problem being that personally, traveling halfway across pa
alone has been determined not to be exactly safe.  so if anyone remotely near
the philly/camden area wants to either subject themselves to my driving, or
offer another suitable way of reaching boalsburg, it would be a very nice
birthday gift, and i would have to owe them my first born child or a blue sys
ep whichever comes first.  well, if this doesn't work i'll see y'all at camden
lilith.

west of bishes
shana

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didn't we already have this joan baez discussion when she showed up at the
lexington show???  ok, some people like her...some people don't.  get it??
i don't mean to be a crab but i'm sick of hearing who does and who doesn't.
could we please take that to private e-mail, or to an
ig-fans-who-love/hate-joan-baez listserv??

thanks
rob
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i have nothing against her but
enough all ready with joan baez.
the last time that i checked this was an indigo girls
listserv.

ed

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date:         wed, 24 jun 1998 23:53:25 edt
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i know that the song that won me over to loving the indigo girls was land of
canaan (my first ig experience was with sf)...  but i also know that my friend
kristen has been partially recruited by jonas and ezekial, which she loves,
and shame on you, which was the first one she ever learned...she also likes
get out the map... if i put on ig she basically starts chanting jonas and
ezekial... but i don't know what one song i'd choose.. in trying to win over a
friend who likes of all things, dance music, i made a mix tape of ig, ani, the
roches, joni, tori, etc... every other song was an ig song! ; )  if anyone
would like to know my selection of ig songs to include, which i'm sure most of
you don't!!, email me privately.. i'd say this was my $.02, but it was really
more like a quarter ; )
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this is from the nettwerk newsletter:

on *friday, june 26th*, there are a couple of things happening: first off,
cnn's entertainment program, 'showbiz today', will be broadcasting live
from the lilith fair concert at the del mar fairgrounds in del mar, ca. the
show runs from 2:30pm to 3:00pm (pst). the show will feature a live
interview with sarah, as well as a live interview with one of the other
main stage artists. the show will also include footage shot in the earlier
part of that morning, showing some details of the load-in and set-up for
the show. this live broadcast will end with the indigo girls doing a
3-minute live performance. be sure to check your local listings to
determine when 'showbiz today' airs in your area.

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hey all....

first off, im finally going to put together my world of indigo page, and
have a favor to ask...

i am looking for any kind of info on the girls- music, personal lives,
what cds theyve been on, birthdates, everything you have...what magazines
theyve been in...everything!!!! what they like to talk about at concerts,
favorite quotes..everything!!!!! also, if you have pictures, send me the
urls of the best ones so i can use them...


next..

im looking for dates of these boots...

shades of indigo, leeves that break in my heart, scholastic magazine
sampler, cd 101 , and the daughters book talk..please let me know if you
have any of these dates..thanks!!!
                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
                                   jeanette
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hey again,

this is to all who were interested in a copy of this interview....

so i contacted tv4 about getting the whole interview and
basically i have to write to them and tell them why i want the
footage, then they will decide whether or not to give it to me...
sigh... can anyone think of some good reasons...?
they also said that the 2 minutes they showed were about the
best of the footage, and they are not planning to show anymore
of the interview...

so email me if you want the 4-5 minutes of video footage or if
you want to wait until i can get a copy of the whole interview...
cheers all,
lynda

p.s if you want to know what the hell i'm talking about then
email me privately and i'll send you the original post...

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hey ho,

well now i went and saw this movie last week or so and wow it
is great!! excellent skiing/snowboarding trips, great music!!
this movie was supposed to have some ig music in it, and they
did credit ig's with soy & gotm but i don't know where they
played them... it wasn't obvious...ah well....

they did play shotgun down the avalanche though...!

so go see it if you are into snow (or nz!!!), but don't see it if you
only want to see people snowriding to ig music...

cheers ears,
lynda

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a friend of mine has four tix to lilith at jones beach (ny) on july 16th:
indigo girls, along w/ sarah , natalie merchant, erika badyu and some others.
the tix are for  sec 15, row s, seats 5-8. after charges, each ticket is $63.

please email me back!

marci

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the song that hit me was ghost.  after i first decided i liked them and it was
just the muisc my college housemates played nonstop to drive me crazy, i got
the "new? cd that very first day and ran back to the house to put it on.  i
heard ghost as i was sitting on the floor in my room.  i cried!  hard!  at the
time i had had a boyfriend who this song fit to a t , and it was like they had
written it just for me!

well it is not a great story, but it is mine!

babs

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hey yall
ok so who is taping these lilith fair shows ???????  come on now, we need to
tape these... we will be taping the merriweather post shows for those who care
(please dont ask for a copy now or right after the show, cause i wont be here
to respond, but i will post it to the list when i retun for those who are
interested)

but i just thought i would make a common plea to all to please tape these
shows, cause they always end up with cool jam sessions or guest
appearances...ok enough now.

plus not that anyone cares, but i am unsubbing to go back to camp to be a
counselor at grand ol camp saginaw in oxford, pa. anyways. i will be back for
lilith for those who have anything to email me about.   to everyone....have a
great summer.

peace
sasha

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yes, indeedy,

big thanks to jennifer, the kind friend who sent me not 1, not 2,
but 3, yes 3, count 'em 3, ig postcards...!! yah...!! and all the way
to new zealand..!!
so even though i can't make it to lillith, at least i can look at
these postcards and pretend...
wow, cool!!

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well this is hard. i like so many so i guess i would have to say shame on
you. i love the beat and the message behind it.

any of the lillith indigo girl performances being recorded? if you have a
tape of a show. just make me a copy and i will tree it for you. no problem.
i am interested in any that are done and i am sure many on the list are.

i got the jesus christ superstar resurrection the other day when i was
looking for the red and blue soy albums. the clerks at the two stores in
town had no idea what i was talking about. haven't listened to the cd yet,
but it looks real good. missy

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hey everyone,

  well, i just found michelle's beneath the devil moon **used** so i
picked it up after the discussion on the list and i love it.  but what i
am wondering is what do people think of her band "band de soleil"?  they
have it used as well, and i'm not sure if i should invest in that or look
at getting some other older michelle stuff?

suggestions?

roger


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after reading such serious allegations about levi's/lilith and the
implications that lead me to believe the indigo girls may now have
blood on their hands i just had to look into it.
oh yeah, also anytime i hear the word "fact" my left eyebrow
involuntarily rises.
here's what i dug up.
levi strauss was generally cited as a "good" example by the websites
that track garment workers and corporate codes. they did anounce in
early '98 that they intended to resume operations in china, it doesn't
appear that they have done this yet. a letter has been sent to levi strauss;

    http://www.igc.org/trac/corner/worldnews/other/132.html

on june 10, 1998 the bay guardian did a story which questions
levi's adherence to their codes of conduct, along with laying off 6,000
us workers and moving operations to other countries. the china
issue, ect.

what i couldn't find were any reports "alleged rape of female workers
by management." or female workers who were maimed in levi's
overseas factories. i also couldn't find any reference to a report
by benjamin dexyl or the un office of human rights done on
levi strauss. i searched the un database along with numerous
global labor rights sites.

i suspect that any official report that finds levi's "2nd only to nike in
their treatment of third world labor."  likening " levi's looms to the
"guillotine's of the french revolution" would have at least been included
in global exchange's "levi's campaign" .
[ http://www.globalexchange.org/corpacct/levis/]
but if anyone knows where to get that report i want to read it.

i'm not a fan of tnc's or industrial capitalism, but i don't think i'm quite
ready to call ig or sarah and her gang on the carpet for this one.....yet.
so, go..... don't go...organize a protest ...... have fun !

but what do i know ? i've worn carharts for years.

i am a problem child :)
claire

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in a message dated 98-06-24 13:03:57 edt, you write:

<< what about those of us in small town usa who can't get access to decent
local bookstores? places like amazon are life savers. i would *love* to
work at a feminist bookstore if we had one within three hours of my home,
but there isn't.
      peace,
         sharoane >>
how about mail order from feminist bookstores??  they can usually special
order almost anything for you...and it's pretty much the same as ordering from
the web.  or, write the publishers directly for mailings...if anyone is
interested in ordering through my bookstore, just ask for the address...or
maybe find one in your state!
:) jen

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for me it would be "left me a fool"...
so far i've converted three of my friends with that very same song:-) the
toaster ovens are stackin' up + if'n i had an army, and a whole mess o'
toaster struedels, well sir, i could feed that there army... course; i'd
prolly blow every fuse in this place, and well, hey... *how then* could i
play my ig cd's fer my unsuspecting + unwitting future convertees????
aaaagghhh!!! my head!
peace... kim
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okay,

so last night i brought up the question about emily's birthday, and though i
have not had a chance to read all the new posts to the list today, i don't
see any response indicated by subject heading. soooo, am i to assume that we
are not doing anything? so my question to you sherlyn is: is the news only
list getting anything together? cause i think it really sucks that we
honored amy's birthday, but aren't doing anything for emily! (and i'm an
"amy fanatic"!!)

by the way, karen you asked about the date of emily's birthday...i know that
there are *many* more knowledgeable folks who would happily correct me, but
i understand her birthdate to be 7/22! and as a relatively clueless, newbie
ig fanatic (though longtime fan!!) i'm not sure what we could get together
this quickly; but, i think the fact that we made a donation in amy's name in
honor of her birthday, makes doing nothing for emily seem like a slight on
her. and i'm concerned that her feelings could get hurt!

whaddya think, folks? there seem to be plenty of responses to the more
trivial threads-- like what one song would you use to turn a friend onto the
ig (no slight intended to you or your thread, lisa. it was just a current
example!)-- which can be fun and interesting. and imho, this question needs
some consideration! yet, noone has responded!!

i mean no offense to anyone, i'm just really surprised that this whole thing
is being so seemingly ignored!

peace,  laura (who is admittedly very tired and cranky tonight!)

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hey folks,

laura said:
> are not doing anything? so my question to you sherlyn is: is the news only
> list getting anything together? cause i think it really sucks that we

no, we don't have anything planned on the news list for
emily's birthday.  the news list isn't exactly interactive -
basically what's been happening is that when projects come
up on this list (eg the bumper stickers, amy's birthday
project), i forward the announcements to the news list.
there isn't any chance of discussion on the news list though,
since it's fully moderated.

however, i *do* think it'd be a great idea for us to start
raising money asap for emily's birthday project!  who do we
want to give it to, though, is the big question...
suggestions, anyone?

-sherlyn
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hi y'all!

okay, this message is going out to the ig list and to a few of my friends,
so i will try to make it really clear so that everyone can understand it.

all i can say is that show (not just the show itself, just the whole
thing!) ricked harder than ever.  so mollie, amy, and i get to the venuw.
we find our seats....5th row amy's side!!!!!  y'all can ask amy or mollie,
but my reaction was "holyshit, i'm less than 20 feet from my lesbian
dream!"

as y'all can imagine, as soon as we got there, we wanted to find that
tower booth so we could get our hot little hands on the blue sys remix.
yeah, to get it you had to buy shaming of the sun (hello?! like any fans
who really wanted the blue sys remix would not already own sots?!), so
anyway, i bought the cd, and will be bringing it backj to the tower in
berkeley tomorrow so that i can get my $18 back.  but i got the remix!
yeah, bliter in the sun is on there!!!!!

so while we;re in the tower tent, we hear....at 4:30 the indigo girls will
be signing! ! ! ! ! !  mollie and amy ran to get in line while i paid.  we
waited in this really looooooong line to meet (my second time!!!!!!!!!!!!)
the indigo girls.  while we were waiting, we were antici[pating what we
would say to them.  i had so much to tell them, but just to get my point
across, i wrote "amy, will you marry me?" on my left hand!  everyone
around me was laughing, but oh well...love is hard ;-)

so we get up closer (after a long time!) and we could see them.  fashion
repor:  amy- her ripped at the knees army pants and a green shirt, emily:
overalls with a blue shirt.  it was finallly our turn!  this time, i
talked to them without flipping out!  and mollie and amy were happy b/c
the longer i could talk to them, the longer they could just stand by them.

anyway, i told them how i follow them all over the midwest and how i've
been a fan since 7th grade (i should have told them my age since i
probably looked like an 8th grader...ummmm...yeah, i've liked them for
more than a year!).  i also explained to them how their music absolutely
moves me.  i guess i was excited cause a and e were just sitting there
laughing, smiling and nodding.  then i told them about power of 2
(actually, as mollie pointed out to me...i accidently told amy (sorry, i
was focusing on her....) that po2 was my fave.  ummmmm...maybe i should
have drected my attention at emily for that comment!  then i explained my
power of 2 problems (for those of you who have been on the list for a
while, you know what i am talking about.  but, basically, 5 shows, no
power of 2, finally heard it in lexington in april).  the whole time they
were just so friendly and wanting to talk to me!  i think that they could
tell that we *really* liked them!  anyway, they said that they would
probably be doing po2 at the show (it didn't happen, but that was
okay...).  so mollie, amy, and i left the signing area.  but i have my
blue sys remix signed by the indigo girls!!!!

so we went to go to our seats to hear eryka badu and as we're walking down
to the 5th row we see...alice walker.  we walked right past her as she was
being escorted backstage.  way cool.

at 7:50, the girls came on.  can i just say perfect view of amy?!  for
those of you (on the list) who were there, we were the crazy people up
near the front.  i was the chick with braids who kept screaming "amy, will
you marry me?" but....since most of the people there went solely to see
sarah mclachlan, we got everyone's attention....including the girls!!!!!
throughout the whole set, they kept looking over at us and smiling (not
many people were going crazy, so we were easy to find...)  in fact, when
the asshole security guard told us to sit down, emily gave him a look and
looked at us and shrugged.  i mean, that was how close we were!  (oh, and
about the no-standing rule...whatever, we just stood right back up when he
wasn't looking).  but yeah, it was sooooooo cool, i mean, they noticed us!
and amy looked goo...she was wearing these pants...ohmygosh, i mean, i
can't even describe them...they looked fucking awesome on her!

but as i said, notmany people were going crazy about the girls...bad in a
way, cause the girls are awesome, and people should go crazy over them,
but good cause we were easy to spot.  i mean, people didn't even seem to
know galileo and least complicated....

but here is the setlist:
3 hits
galileo
tried to be true
least complicated
shed your skin
get out the map
scooter boys
the water is wide (with sarah...damn, people went crazy over sarah when
she came out...)
rockin; in the free world (with k's choice)
closer to fine (with all)

so the show kinda went downhill after the girls played (i knew it would).
natalie merchant is okay, not exactly my fave.  and sarah played too much
new stuff (i really wanted to hear "hold on").  but for sarah's encore,
everyone came out and did "what's goin' on?"....again, amy and emily found
us and looked right at us!  at the end, they waved goodnight to us.

oh, and i forgot to mention...the pic!  sully threw me a pic after their
set!  it is cool...it's yellow, and on one side says indigo girls and on
the other it says it's alright.  so i finally got my pic (i have been
trying at every show!!!)!

well, that is all i can think of now...mollie and amy, if you have
anything to add, add it!  that show was soooo awesome!  and i enjoyed
meeting some of y'all near the tower tent.

okay, i gotta get to bed!  i have class at 8:40 (even though i am not
going until later!)

but that was awesome.  i love amy!  and i met them again!!!!!!  and i love
emily also!  (and oops, i forgot to tell them that i named my pet lizards
after them!).  indigo girls really do rock my world!!!

love,
karen :-)

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"the prize is always worth the rocky ride."
(indigo girls, e.s.)
"i am the lorax, i speak for the trees, i
speak for the trees for the trees have no
tounges."  (dr. seuss)
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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 05:31:02 -0400
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joan didn't show up...no need to discuss it any further.  i am sorry if
you don't share my opinion, but i am entitled to it.  there, that's it.
i'm done on that subject.

secondly, did anyone (please say yes!) boot tonight's show?  please e-mail
me if you did!

okay night!

:-) karen

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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 06:15:13 edt
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i've been playing sots constantly, so it would be leeds and cut it out.  at
least for this week.

wmntime

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for all you kind souls that pummelled me with email regarding my hints,
i sure hope you are having good luck!  sunday is the next record show in
lancaster, i'll be there.

i'm going to atlantic city today in a few minutes actually, to see my
girls (my other favorite girls-lpga) and here's hoping you all have a
swell day, i know i will, cause i won't be in the hell hole today!!

thanks to all of you who wrote kind words of support in my employment
transistion dilemna, i need the support and you all are awesome.

love karen (who is hoping there isn't 138 emails when i get home tonite)

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ghost applies to my live as well, however, i am no longer in love with his
ghost..shadows of the dream are gone halleilugha!

barbara todd wrote:

> the song that hit me was ghost.  after i first decided i liked them and it was
> just the muisc my college housemates played nonstop to drive me crazy, i got
> the "new? cd that very first day and ran back to the house to put it on.  i
> heard ghost as i was sitting on the floor in my room.  i cried!  hard!  at the
> time i had had a boyfriend who this song fit to a t , and it was like they had
> written it just for me!
>
> well it is not a great story, but it is mine!
>
> babs
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lets do something for her too.  lucky me, i get to see her 5 days prior
to her bday, maybe a poster is in order and a balloon : )

love, karen

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hi folks,
i'll make this as quick as possible, since many of you probably don't know
me anymore (though my third year on the list rapidly approaches!).

1. i don't think it's either insipid or shallow to like joan baez for
reminding one of days when more people *did* care about such things as
corporate sponsorship and death machines--when the "hippie look" wasn't
simply an *in* thing people wore to women's music festivals, which,
contrary to sarah mclachlan's ahistorical and homophobic denials, did exist
long before last summer's lilith (if one can properly call last year's
lilith fairs "women's music," since almost all of the backing folks,
techies, etc., were men, adn women were the *singers*--about as traditional
a band makeup as there is).  check out last month's girlfriends for a great
lilith article.

2. what i *do* think shallow and insipid is this kind of discussion: "you
can't do anything about the levi's (borders [evil] bookstore, etc.)
sponsorship, and quit trying to ruin it for those of us who don't give a
crap about exploitation because we want to see our girls!"  oh, sorry that
there are people out there who *do* care about the anguish, destruction,
and decimation caused by capitalism.  (on that note, i still can't fathom
why amy and emily are doing lilith [nor dar] save exposure, which is
disappointing, but at least the girls do bring some measure of political
awareness with them--the kind of political awareness which *can* undercut
corporate america/mncs, if the girls allow themselves full expression.)

we can, and we do, vote with our money, since we live in a market-driven
economy.  so what we choose to support economically (i.e., lilith, national
women's music festival, nike, rika [sp?], etc.), if we have information
about the event/product and its sponsorship, is what we are choosing to
support politically.  i'm not saying it's easy or possible to live without
contradictions in this society, but i'd ask list members please not to
attempt to shut down the information flow just because it might make others
a little uncomfortable about our choices.  fully informed decisions are
*always* better than those which are ignorant.

g'night.
suzi

"and i look up to the people who are less bought than i;
you can show them what you're selling and they'll only ask you, 'why?'
their paychecks don't have lots of zeroes; they're my friends and they're
my heroes.
and the tv sets are angry 'cause they just can't make them pay
but i like the way these people read the signs and walk away."
--dar williams, "bought and sold"

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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 06:53:28 -0500
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>if you were trying to turn a friend on to ig music and you had to do it
in one
>song -- what would it be?

well, i think it depends on what the person likes more - fast rockin'
songs,
or slow ballads.  if it's a slow ballad, one that's always struck me
is "language or the kiss".  "oh, mercy....."!  great harmony.  beautiful
song.
it always makes me stop what i'm doing, stare off into the oblivion, and
just
listen.

"power of two" is also a great song.  who can't like this song?  it
demonstrates great song-writing, great harmony, great guitar
playing, and it sends a wonderful message.

i'm thinkin' that if i had to turn someone on with a fast, rockin' song,
it wouldn't be from sots.  sots really takes a distinguishing ear, and
it helps if you already know enough about a&e's music to know
that they're breaking out a bit more on this album.  i don't think many
songs on sots are easy to listen to for first-time listeners, with the
exception of everything in its own time and maybe gotm and
it's alright.  just my impression, but it's hard to tell since i am
already biased in favor of all the songs on the album.  plus, it's
morning and i may not be thinking straight.  (ha ha, i mean, thinking
"clearly"  :)

lisa


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actually laura i would have responded if i had any ideas whatsoever.  but
i'm a relatively ne list member, and in comparison to some people, a
relatively new ig lover...i tend not to respond if i don't know what to
say, instead of something like this where i'm all "i'm interested but have
no input..." - i mean how unhelpful is that?  :)

but here ya go...count me in and i'll do what i can if someone can come up
with something...*nods*

--audra

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i re thought my decision...the girl with the weight of the
world......sparkie

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hey all...
        this is the last week of school for my gf's, and my, kids. things
were quiet here, and wont be soon, cause we have six kids between us.
anyhoo; that said, you can see why it was so nice to take advantage of the
peace yesterday, free of our "music snob" teen-aged sons, who just don't
know it yet, but have no taste. lol. we watched "watershed" + "live at the
uptown lounge"...
        well... here's my thing... my gf is a major amy nut ( i converted
her a year and a bit ago, and now she's scarey... lol ) and is transfixed
everytime she sees ms ray on screen... so there we were yesterday, watching
the videos + just having a really good time when, while watching live at the
uptown, during ar's kid fears, there was a close up of "her" hand strumming
away on the geeetar. my gf was fascinated by the rings...         the reason
i say "her" hand is; we assumed it was amy's "because" of all the rings (
wolf/coyote etc. ). they just *looked* amy-ish. but see... the guitar in the
close up was black, and when the camera switched to a regular shot of both
a+e, amy was strumming away on a tan colored guitar + *emily* was playing a
black one. we were a bit confusled by this... since we were certain the
rings were amy's, and this was *supposed* to be footage of the latul
footage... the only thing we could think of was that there was an "oops"
done by who-ever edited the video... that person must've spliced in a close
up of a's hand, but playing the "wrong" guitar:-) see... later on in the
video, a *is* playing a black guitar... :-) of course, we could both be
wrong, and it *could* be emily's hand... anyone care to set me "straight" so
to speak:-)
        now y'all can see how terribly uneducated i am when it comes to
music and musical instruments... if'n i knew anything about music i could
just look at the chords being played by that there hand... or i could make
comment on the type of guitar it was... but nut uh... sorry... tssk...
        welp... peace etc... kim
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oops... my gf just told me i goofed:-) in my last post...
it was a *tan* colored guitar that ar ( if it was her ) was playing in the
close up and a black one in the regular shot... es was strumming away alla'
time on a tan colored one + later on ar was playing one too... sigh
peace.. kim
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so if we needed another proof of how much ig stands for what they
believe in, here it is: having never playing any women's fest when they
were not famous, now at the peak of their career they are going to play
at the michigan womyn's fest (http://www.michfest.com/stages/stages.htm)
this year.
sorry if this has been discussed ad nauseam while i was off the list
but   i'm thinking these will be full length shows and should be highly
bootable events. since i can't go, i'm hoping those of you guys who are
going to go will organize some kind of tree for both ig and mm.
btw, these things are usually general admission so it might be a good
idea to park your lawn items early in the day for good seats.

keep us posted,

monique

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wmn time wrote:

> exactly.  i mean, how can we even talk about women's music without giving her
> the respect she deserves.  and this is from someone who knows only one of her
> songs: "the night they drove old dixie down" from '71 or so.  i'm not even
> sure if she wrote it, but i know that she had a hit record with it.

it's an old song by the band - the original is great!

tom

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a small color picture of amy and emily graced the front page of the life
section in today's san jose mercury news.

here's the sjmn review of tuesday's event:
http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/ent/docs/lilith25.htm
b&w pictures of erykah badu and sarah m illustrated the article.

despite the unflattering review of sarah's set on tuesday, imho sarah
did a great job last night. she is so much more comfortable on stage
than she was last year. she seemed to be having fun up there, even made
a joke about how she likes singing the depressing songs b/c it's so much
more fun than living through whetever inspired the song. she had the
most fun set after ig and managed to capture the same sense of good
natured fun that we like so much about ig. and then there's her voice
which is truly incredible and magical.
any woman who credits ig for really being the spark of last year's
lilith is showing good judgment and great taste anyway.

just wanted to add a fashion report inspired by the last song from last
night (what's going on). emily came back out on stage in her overall and
a green athletic jacket. she was singing back up, sharing a mike with
tara mclean and someone else (lhasa maybe?). boy did she look cute
with her down-to-earth jock attitude and her whippy hair next to these
ultra femme women. she also sang one of the verse (as did sarah and
natalie) in her bluesy, midnight train to georgia style.

amy was wearing her multicolored vertical striped pants and a yellow
baseball type jacket and playing her black guitar.
at the end of the song she handed her
guitar to a tech and put her pick in her mouth to wave to the audience,
then walked off chewing her pick in her usual adorable butch style.

cheers,

monique
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another sjmn article explaining some of the financial challenges of the
tour:http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/ent/docs/lilith19.htm


monique
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anyone dubbing both of these acts at this event? if you get a tape to me
when finished with it i will branch it for you. it wouldn't be a problem.
gives me something to do when i am not at work. i can't go to this event so
i can not wait to hear what everything sounds like. missy

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i am new to the list also.  so, i didn't feel comfortable giving input, but i
am interested and would like to get involved in doing something for emily's
birthday :)

gina


i am 32 flavors and then some... wrote:

> actually laura i would have responded if i had any ideas whatsoever.  but
> i'm a relatively ne list member, and in comparison to some people, a
> relatively new ig lover...i tend not to respond if i don't know what to
> say, instead of something like this where i'm all "i'm interested but have
> no input..." - i mean how unhelpful is that?  :)
>
> but here ya go...count me in and i'll do what i can if someone can come up
> with something...*nods*
>
> --audra
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at 10:26 am -0700 6/25/98, tom jobes wrote:
>wmn time wrote:
>
>> exactly.  i mean, how can we even talk about women's music without
>>giving her
>> the respect she deserves.  and this is from someone who knows only one
>>of her
>> songs: "the night they drove old dixie down" from '71 or so.  i'm not even
>> sure if she wrote it, but i know that she had a hit record with it.
>
>it's an old song by the band - the original is great!
>
>tom

just some peripheral ig connections

agree..it was written by robbie robertson a member of the band... whose
recent solo effort..from the underground of redboy..is worth a
listen...sort of techno-hip-hop-native american. one track has leonard
peltier doing a voice-over from prison about his life and causes. rr is a
mohawk..interesting that he would have  written a song about dixie. ulali
also appears on some of his recent work.
very talented guy
m

"free your mind and your ass will follow" (funkadelic)

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hey,

i know a lot of you are going to be going to the lilith shows, but i can't
and i was wondering if any kind generous person out there would be willing
to get me a copy of the blue sys ep.  i would pay for it of course, and
throw in some goodies like some tower postcards, and a couple boots.
also, for intangibles, my eternal gratitude.  anyone?

thanks.

wendell

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so we went through the "favorite albums" thread, and then the "what one
song would you use to turn a friend onto ig?" thread, both of which get
rehashed every few months.  but now...

if you could choose any one ig album to give to a friend, to convince them
how cool they are, which one would it be?  for the sake of argument, let's
leave out 1200 curfews, as it is a double album, but you could choose a
boot of any single ig show you've seen...

me, i'd have to choose nomads indians saints.  i thin it covers the
spectrum from their best rocking stuff to their sweetest songs...my first
few favorite songs aren't on there, but i think it's their best album as a
whole...

darren

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i'd also have to choose nis...along with rop, it's their most
well-rounded and consistent album, and also the one that i find myself
bringing to work the most! :-)

winona
"for a cool evening, i begin to yearn..."
(seriously--it's 95 degrees temp. here, heaven only knows the heat
index!)

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three words:

rites of passage

peace,
lisa j.

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hey everyone -
first off, my apologies to anyone who had difficulties posting because my
email was bouncing. i'd been away for 12 days and apparently my mailbox got
full and started bouncing a few days ago (meaning that when i got home, i only
had 18.3 trillion messages to read instead of the, say, 20 trillion...)
anyway, that means that if anything *really* important was said between, oh,
the 20th and last night, could you be a dear and let me know? (i used to get
frustrated when other people asked this, but i now i understand what it feels
like.)  "important" is like - "hey, at last night's concert amy did a whole
soc about this person named flora" or "their new album is coming out
tomorrow." stuff like that, you know?  thanks!!

also, although i scoured the racks of about 25 music stores and called another
15 while i was away in vancouver, and could not find *any*thing out of the ig-
ordinary (have any canadians come up with the new eps?!) i did pick up
billboard mag, which mentioned them.  hope this hasn't been mentioned, but oh
well...

headline: "openly gay artists making business strides"
(intro:)"the life of an out-queer recording artist is not an easy one -
particularly for those who opt to be truthful about their sexuality from the
outset of their career.  but as mainstream societal acceptance of the gay and
lesbian community gradually increases in the us, a brigade of persistent
performers is inching closer to achieving success on their own terms."
(little pic: that common one, sorta taken at an angle, where emily looks
really old and amy's wearing a scarf. personally, i don't like it much...)
(now i'll skip around to the good stuff:)
"[one major-label a&r executive who declined to be identified says} 'even the
acts that have done well in the past, like indigo girls, are having problems.'
the epic duo recently made headlines when they were banned from performing at
irmo high school in south carolina because they're lesbians.  two subsequent
shows on the act's high school tour in tenn. were canceled, with officials
citing profanity in lyrics.
'the idea of a high school tour came about after emily [saliers] and i were
judges in a student lyric-writing contest sponsored by scholastic magazine,'
says indigo girl amy ray.  'we were struck by the students' energy and
willingness to engage in and question life.  the intent of the tour was
apolitical.'
she adds, 'the impossibility and hypocrisy of a situation where kids are
expected to be honest but are judged and alienated from their community
because of it should not escape us.  in response to these cirumstances we are
playing alternate shows - alcohol free, all ages, after school.'"

ok, so it's nothing new, but i enjoyed it nonetheless.

happy summer!
flora

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hey folks,

darren said:
>if you could choose any one ig album to give to a friend, to convince them
>how cool they are, which one would it be?  for the sake of argument, let's

i lent so and sots to a girl at work a week ago.  i think i
*might* to get sots back, but i have a sinking feeling i'm
never going to see so again... ah well.  it's not like i
don't have a backup copy.  or two. :)

also, about emily's birthday - yes, we should definitely do
this.  however, i simply can't be the one to organise it,
because:
i) i live in australia, and
ii) i barely have time to keep up with my personal mail, let
alone undertake a project like this, right now.

so, what we need is to find someone to look after the
organisation of this project.  this would involve:
i) organising the vote or whatever to decide which charity
we're going to donate to
ii) collecting or coordinating the collection of money
iii) arranging (somehow) to get the money either to emily,
or to the charity
iv) keeping the list informed about all of the above

so, right now we're both looking for a volunteer to head the
project, and looking for suggestions regarding who to donate
to.  volunteers or suggestions, folks?  we should probably
discuss this on the list not through private mail, so it's
an open discussion...

thanks -
sherlyn
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ok...just a question...what was second place in the amy's birthday vote?
weren't we gonna use that one for emily...we kept saying "amy will get
nana...emily will probably get "blankety-blank."  i'd like to say i
remember....but i don't!!!  what was it!!!
arg
love,
  ~carol~

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dear lynda,

when i e-mailed you before asking what you were reffering to.  you could
simply say it's a private post.  you do not need to get rude by saying.
"if you know what the hell i am talking about then e-mail me privately
and i'll send you the original post."

this is supposed to be a friendly place to be.

eddie

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   i do not care what we do for her birthday. i just can not contribute
this time. no money coming in and i need money for polaris. so what ever
you guys decide to do i can not help this time.

i do not have the tape yet for soy tape to copy for the branches yet. i
hope to have it in the mail tomorrow.

i have a homepage up in geocities just do not click on the boot page it
hasn't been figured out how to undo the mess it is in yet i am getting help
with it, but visit the main page and e-mail me what you think and sign my
guest book. http://geocities.com/westhollywood/stonewall/5548/

does anyone know a daniel benjamin. i really need to speak with him about
what tape he wants me to do> missy

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how about donating to her favorite charity like we did when it was amy's
birthday

correction in web address
http:www.geocities.com/westhollywood/stonewall/5548/

missy

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folks,

just a quick one...

carol asked:
>ok...just a question...what was second place in the amy's birthday vote?
>weren't we gonna use that one for emily...we kept saying "amy will get
>nana...emily will probably get "blankety-blank."  i'd like to say i

virginia slam!, wasn't it?  at the time the vote was pretty
much to decide between chiapas and slam, because the slam
benefit was right around the time of amy's birthday.

-sherlyn
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>>ok...just a question...what was second place in the amy's birthday
>>vote? weren't we gonna use that one for emily...we kept saying "amy
>>will get nana...emily will probably get "blankety-blank."
>
>
>virginia slam!, wasn't it?  at the time the vote was pretty
>much to decide between chiapas and slam, because the slam
>benefit was right around the time of amy's birthday.

well, since slam is long since past...

and since the most recent public ig incident of consequence was the
cancelling of the 3 high school shows because a&e are lesbians...

i'd like to suggest that we make a donation to an organization which
helps gay and lesbian youth in some way. i know that there's an
organization in atlanta called youthpride which ig support. ig
contributed a track to "thrive: a compilation to benefit youthpride."
and emily gave a talk to a high school g/l group in decatur shortly
after the controversy -- so it's obviously an important issue for her.

<http://www.youthpride.org>

i don't know if there are any such national g/l youth organizations.

anyone else agree... or have a better suggestion?

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correct me if i am wrong, but isnt it the 23rd rather than the 22nd?  ok, well
i am willing to do whatever... i ll organize it and do all the necessary
things...  it's the least i could do to repay her for all her wonderful
contributions to the music industry and my life... so you guys just let me
know  :)

have a wonderful weekend
~erin~

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hey everyone...
   i finally have my pictures from appel farm up on my web page...i did
that today instead of studying for my physics test.  the address for my ig
page is : http://www.people.virginia.edu/~slm4b/indigogirls.htm
and scroll down and click on the appel farm page to see the pictures.
amy has a new haircut in them...and i was sitting inside the fence so the
pics are pretty close.  sign my guestbook while you're there, too!
(guestbook link is from the main page.)
                                  thanks!
                                  stephanie
p.s. to anyone whose expecting anything from me, i'm going to the post
office tomorrow and will send everything out then.  sorry, i've been kinda
busy, and wanted to send everything out at once.

stephanie lynne merhar
university of virginia
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ok, i guess we'll do the idea first. has anyone collected copies of the
new songs or even last year's not-recorded songs (i.e. winthrop,
chiapas) to put al together on a tape? if i slept through this i
apologize, but i haven't heard much of the new stuff and i am craving
some new ig.
the karla faye tucker song, amy's lonely-forgiveness song, gone again.
any others? i would be more than happy to put all these together on a
tape and make copies, the whole deal. maybe tree it.

i saw ig at lilith @ the gorge. when i bought the tickets i thought the
idea of being squeezed into a row of 100 people was not such a good one,
but as i sat a bazillion miles away sat night i came to regret my
choice. the charms of the first two acts entirely escaped me as i was
not close enough to get any idea of what was going on and was totally
unfamiliar with the music. i know it would have been entirely different
up close. even with my nifty nikon binoculars i could't see anything but
blobs for faces. the music rocked but that far back it is just a lower
level of intensity. i looked at everyone rocking up front with envy.

sun we got in line 3 hours early and got terrace seats, but i think the
gorge is just too big. at least i could see faces through the binocs!

love the girls, sinead, natalie & sarah...

too fat for levis,
paulal

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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 21:22:49 -0400
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official update from sarah!

love k

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subject: quick sarah update

well, it's officially summer, though you wouldn't know it if you lived here
in vancouver, bc - home of murmurs. it's another drippy and generally wet
n' cloudy day. (sigh)

having got that off my chest,  it's time for our weekly wrap up. i normally
post every friday afternoon but this information is slightly more pressing
so,  i thought i would send it to you one day early. (hope you don't mind)

first off... lilith news...
it's been a busy first week for sarah and the lilith crew.  this weeks
stops included: george, wa and san fransisco, ca . lilith hits san diego
for a show at the del mar fairgrounds tomorrow.  remember to visit the
lilith fair web site for more in-depth lilith coverage and daily news.

sarah on the tube...
on monday, june 22nd muchmusic (canada),  aired a little article on the
feature 'rapid fax.'  sarah was interviewed by vj terry david mulligan at a
lilith press conference.
set your vcrs as sarah visits the tonight show with jay leno tonight
*thursday, june 25th*.  she will be perform 'adia.'
tomorrow *friday, june 26th*, there are a couple of things going on:
1. cnn's 'showbiz today', will broadcast live from the lilith show at the
del mar fairgrounds in san diego, ca. the show runs from 2:30pm to 3:00pm
(pst). and will feature a live interview with sarah, as well as a live
interview with one of the other main stage artists. the show will also
include footage shot in the earlier that morning, showing some details of
the load-in and set-up for the show. this broadcast will end with the
indigo girls doing a 3-minute live performance. be sure to check your local
listings to
determine when 'showbiz today' airs in your area.

2. sarah will be seen on "abc's in concert" performing 'possession', and
the show will also take a look at lilith fair. it airs at midnight. check
your local listings for more. oddly enough, another nettwerk-managed act,
the barenaked ladies, will be seen on this show as well, performing a
couple of songs.

get your tickets!
the last round of tickets for lilith fair '98 go on sale this saturday*june
27th* for the following canadian stopovers: calgary, ab @ mcmahon
stadium,edmonton, ab @ commonwealth stadium, vancouver, bc @ thunderbird
stadium. tickets at ticketmaster. once these tickets go on sale, then
tickets for all the lilith fair dates will officially be "on sale." the
following dates are sold out: all three shows in detroit at pine knob (july
6th, 7th and 8th), and the first date in toronto at the molson amphitheatre
(august 15th).

that's it!  have a wonderful week. if it's sunny where you are, make sure
you stay safe and wear your sun screen.! (thanks mom)

until next time... adieu!  ( :
jennifer gray
fan club coordinator

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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 21:55:26 -0400
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okay first, thank you to the kind sould who sent me the 3 ig  post
cards, they are awesome.  my daughter (who says she'd like them except
she knows they are singing to their girlfriends lol) even hung one up on
her door.  much thanks you are a sweety!

to lisa, thanks i got the blue today  : ).  so to all of you i promised
to tape, i'll get started on it monday, however, i only recieved one
blank and a sase, i guess you all are having more luck finding the
sys's.  lisa, did you get your red????????

joe hamilton:  i got in with the  out crowd today thank you!  (gotta
admit it is the most expensive cd i ever bought, no groceries this week
: )*  also, you said you wanted to send me a list of singles to look for
you for at the music show, and it is coming quickly, this sunday.  write
to me soon.

last but not least, those girls can play!  it was so hot in atlantic
city today, they were all practicing, everyone was glistining with
sweat, the damn horse flies were biting, and they are so good, the pga
better watch out. lisolette gave me chipping hints, so did cindy
figg-courier, helen alfredsson and anika remembered me from last month
at dupont, and they were so encouraging.  they asked about my game and
annika signed my hat "to karen, break 100!

sorry for adding nigc, but anyone who dosen't watch them play, you gotta
see them, they are so good.  they'll be on tv this weekend, so if you
get bored tune in.  they deserve as much support as the concieted guy
golfers.

love,  karen

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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 22:40:14 -0700
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i am really tired hearing about joan b. on the ig listserv.
eddie

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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 22:22:09 -0400
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subject:      re: emily's b-day

hey all,

i personally like mel's idea, donating to youthpride. or maybe pflag. i
also had another idea before. . .i remember in may, when my friend and i
were getting together a gift for our choir director, we came across an
organization called hungry for music (i think) whose main purpose is to
expose homeless, needy, and underpriviledged children to music and give
them a chance to enjoy it. that's just a vaguish description of what it
is, though, i really can't remember anything more about it. to me, i
guess it seems like that would be an appropriate organization because
music is an extremely powerful thing--emily's and amy's have touched our
lives, and donating to hfm would help music to touch even more people's
lives. but, since i don't know much at all about this, i really have no
idea of how credible of an organization it is, or what exactly they do. .
.i don't know if it's that good of an idea to donate to them. if you
want, i could check them out and find more information, but since we know
more about youthpride, and a donation to them would fit in with what's
been going on these past few months, not to mention that we don't have a
whole lot of time, mel's idea is probably better.

as for other organizations. . .someone look on the liner notes of sots (i
would, but mine's gone). . .i know they had listed a bunch of them whose
causes they support. we could always use one of those.

i wish i could be more help with organizing this. . .i really can't
mainly because i will be leaving here permanently in about three weeks,
so i won't be around for emily's birthday, and in the meantime i'll be
getting ready to leave for camp and school. besides which, i don't trust
myself with undertaking such a big project--this is important, and i
wouldn't want to let you guys or emily down if i were to mess up. but, if
whoever ends up being in charge needs help with a particular job, like
counting up votes for which organization we're going to use, or something
similar, i'm willing and ready.

thanks for listening. . .and thanks to laura for bringing this whole
subject up! we really need to kick our butts into gear and get to work on
this!

peace, love, indigo, and all good things,
kristina :o)

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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 22:45:27 -0400
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i vote for youthpride.  the girls support it, it speaks to the incidents
in the schools, and i think is something em would really appreciate.

--audra

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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 22:17:51 -0500
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subject:      cd boot of lilith ppv - no ig?!

hey y'all,

damn, damn, damn....er, i mean, darn, darn, darn!
i just found a cd bootleg in a local cd store in
cedar rapids which is a live lilith fair show.  it was a great
find, but not perfect.   excellent quality, but it's
a bit lacking.  see if you can figure out why....
it's got a short set from these artists...

meredith brooks
shawn colvin
jewel
sheryl crow
sarah mclachlan
all together for big yellow taxi

i figured, oh well, no ig, but i'll buy it anyway.
i reasoned that ig must not have been there that night.
but, does the order of the artists sound remotely
familiar?  you're darn right!

the great and wonderful
don richards, of the mighty indigohians, just
sent me the lilith fair ppv show, which
i missed since i don't get cable.  amyray,
i liked the show a lot.  and then here i
am listening to my new cd boot of the
lilith fair, show date and venue unknown,
since it wasn't printed on the cd insert.
i finally listened to the entire cd tonight.
when it started to sound very familiar,
i said, "hey, man, that's the toronto
lilith fair  ppv show!!!"  great,
hey?  i have a better audio recording of
that ppv show on my bootleg cd than is
on the freakin' video itself, but they
didn't include ig's set on the cd!!!!!   what
in tarnation is a booter doing making a
recording off the sound board at the
lilith ppv show in toronto and recording
everything but the indigo girls?????  or
maybe he/she recorded the entire show,
but left our girls off when producing the
cd.  why, why, why???  any ideas?

sorry if this has already been mentioned.
it's new to me, and maybe it's new to
other people, too.

lisa s.

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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 19:48:49 pst
reply-to:     gwen b nelson <gbn101@juno.com>
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subject:      em's b-day/ gay teens

there is a national organization known as the national advocacy coalition
on youth and sexual orientation that serves as a networking tool for
organizations across the country that  serve lesbigaytrans teens, if
anyone's interested.  then there's always pflag and glsen (gay lesbian
and straight educators network; they do a lot for students).

gwen

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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 21:29:35 -0500
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i second that.....
java

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> i vote for youthpride.  the girls support it, it speaks to the incidents
> in the schools, and i think is something em would really appreciate.
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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 19:49:13 -0700
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we gotta do something for her birthday!!!  (i'm thinking it's july
22...).

good suggestions so far - i like the suggestion about donating moola
to a youthpride organization - or something similar - not only is this
a current issue bc of highschools cancelling their (free) concerts -
but it's just a good thing for young people - to grow up and feel good
about who they are...something both a and e would support...i think
almost *any* kind of donations for supporting youth in general would
be a good thing...sometimes it's just *tough* growing up - kids are a
good thing to invest in...

ok - gotta stop there - having had a fairly 'brainless' kind of day -
i'm not in the best 'thinking and brainstorming' kind of mood...but
i'm digging the suggestions so far.  :o)

take it easy -

sunny - barely surviving the hot, humid weather here...and am off for
a cold shower (but only bc of the hot weather!  heehee)

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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 22:25:05 pdt
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it was wonderfully stated:
>2. what i *do* think shallow and insipid is this:... "quit trying to
ruin it for those of us who don't give a
>crap about exploitation because we want to see our girls!"  oh, sorry
that
>there are people out there who *do* care....
> i'd ask list members please not to
>attempt to shut down the information flow just because it might make
others
>a little uncomfortable about our choices.
suzi, who i haven't really seen post much before, really ought to write
us more.  this post states what i was *trying* to say in my previous
post(s), for which i got heartily flamed by folks misinterpreting what i
was writing.  i want to elaborate on this more, but her words are
dead-on, so i'll just let them stand alone.  and i hope you all don't
flame her for this, because you know she's right.  and if you don't
agree, just think a little longer about it...

jill

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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 22:33:04 pdt
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smiley lisa s. wrote:
> i may not be thinking straight.  (ha ha, i mean, thinking
>"clearly"  :)

lisa, take note of this too:  when driving, never ever go *straight
ahead.*  gaily forward, my dear, gaily forward does it.  ;)

( i did this once to this football-player-type i went to school with...
i was giving him directions and he asked if he was to go straight.  i
said no, gaily forward.  he was rather puzzled-- as
footbally-player-types are wont to be, perhaps?-- and said, so it's
straight then.  no, no, i said, gaily forward.  this went on for a
couple more times.  i finally laughed and said, yeah dan, *you* can go
straight.)

jill

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hey all,
does anyone have info on the del mar lilith?  i thought the gates opened at
3:30 and was wondering how that cnn thing was going to happen if it's live
at 2:30.

oh, and i called a few days ago and they said you can bring backpacks,
drinks, and food, but you can't bring glass bottles, cameras, or recording
devices.
can't wait.....java

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sherlyn wrote:

>what we need is to find someone to look after the
>organisation of this project.  this would involve:
>i) organising the vote or whatever to decide which charity
>we're going to donate to
during all those cancellations at the high schools, i got to thinking
about the gay and questioning youth in those schools, and the message
their schools' faculty were sending to them-- "gay people are not to be
around kids"?  "if you're gay, don't talk about it"? "being gay is
something to be ashamed of"?  considering the elevated suicide and
depression rate for gay youth, what these principals were doing and
telling these kids could be fatal at worst.  given this,
i would like to propose that we collect and donate money to youth pride
(atlanta) and smyal (d.c.) --they're listed under "resources" in sots
liner notes).  i think this would be a wonderful show of support for our
queer youth; i'd bet the girls would agree.  so that's my proposal,
since this is an issue especially close to my heart.
do we have a go?  ya think?

>ii) collecting or coordinating the collection of money
i'll do it.  i'm willing and able to collect the money, compile it, and
get a biiig money order made out to the charity we choose.

>iii) arranging (somehow) to get the money either to emily,
>or to the charity
well, i don't know how much could be collected by then, but i will be
one of a few listees at the boalsburg show (july 10), which is general
admission.  i'm sure we'd have no difficulty getting up close to the
stage, where we could hand it to em.  or give it after the show, since i
*think* (?) this show is a smaller venue.  or we could arrange to have
the donations mailed or presented in person to the charities.
or, hell, i'll just mosey down to va beach and give it to her on the
21st.  (can you tell i wanna hand it to her?  ah well, don't we all?)

>iv) keeping the list informed about all of the above
c'mon, like i ever stop posting anyways?  ;)

let me know what y'all think...
jill

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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 02:21:06 -0400
reply-to:     marivel danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
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did anyone catch this brief lilith spot on vh1 news?  i think it's like mtv and
runs every few hours for about 5 minutes, but of course i saw it days ago and
they probably change those things every so often, huh?  well anyway it was nice
cause from what i caught, the focus was on indigo girls and the collective
energy that amy and emily have brought to the tour.  they were a few clips of
amy, emily, sarah from k's choice, and sarah (the other one with all the
merchandise...) walking into the press conference and they played a bit of sarah
talking about ig and how they got there and started knocking on artists' doors.
then they showed a few seconds from an ig set where they where amy embraces
sarah as she walks out on stage, and another as amy introduces k's choice as a
guest vocal.  that was all i saw, but did anyone figure out where it was from?
musta been portland or seattle cause it was before ca...

on with more pointlesness...did anyone boot k's choice's set?  it'd be a really
good idea...please.  they're worth the walk to the b stage i swear!!!

thirdly, i still have one ticket for pine knob's detroit lilith fair.  ig is
playing and the seat is row e.  please let me know if interested.  thanks!

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                i thought you would
                      you feel alright by me
                            it's been a while for me you know
                                    but i'm willing to let things
                                             just be..."  -brenda weiler

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date:         thu, 25 jun 1998 23:28:03 pdt
reply-to:     just jill <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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subject:      hey dented canners!!! i'm gettin' sneaky...
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if you got one of those dented cans records for the original,
pre-consumer-demand, honest, decent price of $10, will you please drop
me an email and tell me your full (first + last) name, and where you're
from (city, state)?  i've got a scheme up my sleeve......
i want to wait and see how it goes, and if it works, i'll tell y'all
about it...

heh heh heh!  must be the heat!!
(i work at a day camp... we were out on the playground all day today, in
99 degree weather, and, woo hoooo, i got heat stroke!!! awww yeah!  can
i get workers' comp for this? ;))
braving the perils of small-town ohio,
jill

oh, and yeah, like the second i sent my em's birthday post, i read the
*rest* of my mail and saw that brilliant mel beat me to my idea!  hee.
we's sooo smaaaart....

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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 02:55:01 -0400
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hey y'all!

i just thought that i'd warn you about the blue sys remix.  okay, so to
get it, you have to buy sots (which they jack up to $18.99 at lilith).  so
i just bought sots, planning to return it.  wellllll.....tower has a very
strict return policy.  all they would give me was a store credit (no cash,
even w/ receipt), and since the list price for sots was $14.99, they could
only give me a credit for $14.99 (i argued, but it didn't work...).  so,
the moral:  if you want the remix, be prepared to get stuck with either a)
a new copy of sots or b) a credit for $14.99.  but, hey, i figure that
i'll want to buy a cd soon, and that i only paid $4 (the money i lost) for
the blue remix, soo it was all worth it.  but i just thought i'd warn you
in case you have the same plan that i had:  buy sots and return it at a
tower store for cash back....

:-) karen (who is still on an indigo high!)

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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 17:10:11 +1000
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folks,

just a quick one...

so, unless anybody else has any other suggestions, it looks
like we're going to donate to a g/l youth support network of
some kind.  most of the mentions have been for youthpride
in atlanta, but a few other names have cropped up as well...

also, both erin and jill have volunteered to administer this
project.  erin volunteered first so it looks like it's her
baby unless she wants to pass it to jill (or they want to
work together, who knows :).

anyhow, just summing up.  i'd better get back to work -
sherlyn
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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 03:34:54 edt
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hey all!

i am new to the list..... so getting used to all the mail is fun, but i think
i may have missed something.

i keep reading about red and blue... not sure what these are.. please help!

i just got the cmj cd and the remix is hot!  but i dont think this is what you
were talking about.  i am so lost!

well that is it for now!

i am looking foreward to becoming less of a newbie on this list.  hehhehe

babs

btw... who is going to jones beach on the 15th?  i know sometimes list folks
try and say hello at the shows.  emila me in private if you wil be there and
want to get an icecream and chat.

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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 06:18:23 -0400
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jill, as long as i can be there when you hand it to her, i think its an
awesome idea : )

karen (who has recently realized that she is an "emily" person)

> >iii) arranging (somehow) to get the money either to emily,
> >or to the charity
> well, i don't know how much could be collected by then, but i will be
> one of a few listees at the boalsburg show (july 10), which is general
> admission.  i'm sure we'd have no difficulty getting up close to the
> stage, where we could hand it to em.  or give it after the show, since i
> *think* (?) this show is a smaller venue.  or we could arrange to have
> the donations mailed or presented in person to the charities.
> or, hell, i'll just mosey down to va beach and give it to her on the
> 21st.  (can you tell i wanna hand it to her?  ah well, don't we all?)
>
> >iv) keeping the list informed about all of the above
> c'mon, like i ever stop posting anyways?  ;)
>
> let me know what y'all think...
> jill
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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 07:32:42 -0400
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karen fontificated:

joe hamilton:  i got in with the  out crowd today thank you!  (gotta
admit it is the most expensive cd i ever bought, no groceries this week
: )*

hey karen, how much didya pay for iwtoc?

i picked up mine a couple years ago for $24 bucks before rdr was banished
from atlanta.

it is by far my favorite boot i own, and i listen to it constantly. more
than 1200 curfews even. a few years back i made a tree for it, and i'll do
it again if there's enuff interest. e-me if you wanna be a branch.

smacks,

sus

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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 07:34:10 -0400
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sorry, i'm a weenie sometimes

in with the out crowd is a boot taped mostly in 94 at the shepherd's bush
empire theatre in london. the sound is exquisite....and there are a couple
of studio tracks at the end including an acoustic ctf and cortez the
killer.

sus

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whose goin? we have a couple already..if you want to scream and carry on
"en masse'" let me know and i
ll tell you the secret handshake to find us.
pooh
( ps. thinkin of hitting the pride parade before so we can get really
sunburned first ( predictin 97 degrees folks) ..that way we can be real
crabby when people bump into us at aragon ala rathole de la sewer also
..grrl bar is havin a party( like the ones from paris in the old days)
to support horizons and howard brown if yer interested)

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---karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net> wrote:
>
> jill, as long as i can be there when you hand it to her, i think its
an
> awesome idea : )

me toooo!!!!   :o)


> but i will be
> > one of a few listees at the boalsburg show (july 10), which is
general
> > admission.  i'm sure we'd have no difficulty getting up close to the
> > stage, where we could hand it to em.  or give it after the show,
since i
> > *think* (?) this show is a smaller venue.


can't wait for boalsburg - and it *does* sound like a smaller venue!
so i'm hoping to get close to the stage!

it also sounds like there's gonna be a big tailgate outside in the
parking lot b4 the concert - fun - cant wait!

take it easy -
sunny

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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 08:41:47 -0500
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hi.
i don't think i've seen this posted yet....
there is a small pic of the girls on the last page of the current issue of
curve magazine (with the 15 most influential on the front).  the pic's from
the grammy awards....
java

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hey kf,

are the blue sys cds/sos cds available @ the tower booth @ lilith or are
they available @ tower stores?  if the answer is only @ lilith, could i beg
someone to buy me a copy?  please!!!  unfortunately, i can't make it to any
of the lilith shows this summer and i'm pretty bummed.

thanks in advance for answers, and a purchase(?).

lanie

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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 12:20:41 edt
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hey everyone,
i think that we should also really considering giving money to slam!. yes,
this year's slam! concert is over, but it's an ongoing organization. and
because it was one of the causes we looked at for amy's birthday, i think we
should reconsider. the slam! concert was amazing and amy and emily had a
wonderful time. they were really into the cause- i know this because i work
for slam!. i also would like to mention that slam! recently lost a lot of
money, and they are in desperate need of funding. i also know that groups that
work with gay and lesbian youth often have a lot of funding from their
financial backers... slam! has yet to have help like this. one more thing i
would like to suggest is maybe that we *split* the money we raise between the
two. how does everyone feel about this????
     dawn-michelle

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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 09:23:08 -0700
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so just to ramble on a bit more about this...in a lot of the little tv
snippets i caught about lilith, sarah has been going about how big an
impact ig has had on lilith and generally has been doing a great job of
doing pr for them. i'm thinking a&e should hire sarah as their agent.
after water is wide was over on wednesday night, sarah who was standing
to the left (right for us) of emily gave her a hug. then despite the
guitar techs who were in the way she made a point of going around to
amy's side to give her a real hug (can anyone remember what was the
movie in which there is a joke about how straight women hug with minimal
body contact whereas lesbians give real hugs?)

cheers,

monique

marivel danielson wrote:
>
> did anyone catch this brief lilith spot on vh1 news?  i think it's like mtv and
> runs every few hours for about 5 minutes, but of course i saw it days ago and
> they probably change those things every so often, huh?  well anyway it was nice
> cause from what i caught, the focus was on indigo girls and the collective
> energy that amy and emily have brought to the tour.  they were a few clips of
> amy, emily, sarah from k's choice, and sarah (the other one with all the
> merchandise...) walking into the press conference and they played a bit of sarah
> talking about ig and how they got there and started knocking on artists' doors.
> then they showed a few seconds from an ig set where they where amy embraces
> sarah as she walks out on stage, and another as amy introduces k's choice as a
> guest vocal.  that was all i saw, but did anyone figure out where it was from?
> musta been portland or seattle cause it was before ca...
>
> on with more pointlesness...did anyone boot k's choice's set?  it'd be a really
> good idea...please.  they're worth the walk to the b stage i swear!!!
>
> thirdly, i still have one ticket for pine knob's detroit lilith fair.  ig is
> playing and the seat is row e.  please let me know if interested.  thanks!
>
> marivel    "you taste just like
>                 i thought you would
>                       you feel alright by me
>                             it's been a while for me you know
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>                                              just be..."  -brenda weiler
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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 10:19:15 -0700
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hey y'all,

sorry for the last minute notice, but due to bizarre circumstances beyond
our control, wendy bucklew's show at the music farm in charleston, sc
tomorrow (saturday, june 27th) is not going to happen.  it's all a part of
the glamour of the road and wendy sends her apology for the mis-cue, but it
truly wasn't her doing.  she plays tonight (friday) at the highlander in
atlanta, so come on down if you can.

we appreciate your kind notes and support.

lorene machado
manager
wendy's website:  http://www.flylive.com/flylive/wendy.html

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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 10:44:38 -0700
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*disclaimer:  i promise this does have ig content!  just keep reading!*

so my best friend and i have gone completely insane.  see, a little
background:  we're both really into ghost stories.  have been since we
were kids.  in fact, we're both members of the international ghost
hunter's society and if you go to my web page you can see a couple of
true ghost stories and even submit your own:
http://www.accessone.com/~kate.

but that's not the point.  the point is, we were having a little too
much fun in photoshop yesterday trying to doctor pictures to make it
look like there really were ghosts in the image.  then my best friend's
daughter said, "ghosts need to have two black eyes and a round head."
so just to appease her, we made one  and laughed really hard.

so now we have this ghost, affectionately called "felix", who is sort of
the forrest gump of ghosts and shows up in random pictures.  i know, but
like i said, we've lost it.  we just put him up on the web and he's
making is debut appearance with my soul mate (hint:  this is where the
ig content comes in):  http://www.accessone.com/~whisler/felix.html

anyway, i just thought i'd brighten your day with a little insanity.
the web page sucks right now but i'll be working on it all this weekend
to "spruce it up".  have fun!

-kate  :o)

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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 13:38:28 -0400
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i remember there being a thing about the way str8 women hug as opposed to
lesbians in "claire of the moon"...and i know this because i just bought
the movie last weekend *bounces* :)

--audra

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sounds like a good idea to me.  i'd be a little more comfortable making my
check out directly to which ever organization we pick.  i'm not sure how
it's been done in the past.  maybe it's not good form to gather up a bunch
of checks and present them to emily?  i could understand that.  keep me
posted.

thanks,
gina

just jill wrote:

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sounds like a good idea to me.  i'd be a little more comfortable making
my check out directly to which ever organization we pick.  i'm not
sure how it's been done in the past.  maybe it's not good form to
gather up a bunch of checks and present them to emily?  i could understand
that.  keep me posted.

<p>thanks,
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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 12:25:40 -0500
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i think it is a great way to celebrate and do some good for the
people..maybe we should let robertson know that we help people as
well....sparkie

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just an fyi (do not know if anyone else said this, so....)

the orginization formally known as the national advocacy coalition on youth
and sexual orientation is now the national youth advocacy coalition (nyac).
and they are such a fierce and fabulous group.

nyac is responsible for supporting queer youth and service organizations all
across the country. you can reach them at nyouthac@aol.com or 202.319.7596

and multiple other ways ;)

youth pride is also very cool! :)

-kate
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anyone's interested.  then there's always pflag and glsen (gay lesbian
and straight educators network; they do a lot for students).
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does anyone know the restrictions about what you can/can't bring. i thought
i read something about no being able to bring outside food/drink? what
about cameras? binoculars?

thanks,

pd

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can anyone please please please tell me how to get tix for the columbus
lilith show?  i (obviously) can't go <sigh>, but i think that my totally
awesome japanese professor may want to go, and i told her that i'd see if
there are tickets left or if she could possibly get some.  please e-mail
me if you know....

:-) karen

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what about at the ok city show........any ideas....sparkie

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can anyone please please please tell me how to get tix for the columbus
lilith show?  i (obviously) can't go <sigh>, but i think that my totally
awesome japanese professor may want to go, and i told her that i'd see if
there are tickets left or if she could possibly get some.  please e-mail me
if you know....
:-) karen
>>>>>>>>>>
i just checked b/c i'll be there and i'm trying to get better tickets than i
have - but for the july 5th lf in columbus, oh tickets are still for sale.
they are reserved and towards the last row and far side - but they are
tickets!
let me know if i'm wrong.
8-)
indiglowin' weekend!!!
mkc

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ok... just thought i would throw in my two cents...

ok, i understand that it would be a worthy cause to donate to atlanta youth
pride.. but let me say a few things..

first off, not everyone on this mailing list is gay... so we need to find an
organization to donate to that would fit all circumstances...  let alone, not
everyone would like to donate it to the atlanta chapter...

there are children and men and women of all ages out there dying and being
abused... those who need serious help...

really folks.. who actually needs it more... the gay youths in atlanta, or
those people going through experiences that you and i could never dream about.

flame if you wanna, but do it to me personally please... i am just trying to
be reasonable here... nothing against the youth in atlanta, but the money is
needed in many more places.

thanks for your time,

erin and laura

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i was at first diapointed by the coverage on the lilith fair..until the
very end of the show when amy and emily performed gotm..ohh, they are so
beautiful and talented..im way glad i stayed home to watch this (and tape
it of course)...did anyone catch sarah on tonight show last night..i loved
her purple dress...

                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
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im still in need of info for the page....

pics, tidbits, facts, charity work theyve done, where theve appeared,
personal stuff (i mean, as individuals, not *personal*, everything!!

also, if you have an ig page youd like to be linked, of boots, ig, or
whatever relating, send me email with the url, and a short clip on what it
contains..thanks!!

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ah, so those girls were at it again getting their faces out there for
everyone to see. in case any of you missed it, they sang get out the map
and it was pretty cool. close proximity to the camera, smiles
(embarassed or shy, i think, for much of it), sounded and looked
good-even if they did cut off the beginning and end, not to mention the
hard angle the tilt the picture at while they roll the credits.

hey, is there anyone out there who has a copy of that pay per view
concert that they would be willing to copy for me? i think of it
endearingly as the "barefoot amy concert" because i remember reading
about her dancing around in bare feet. thanks!

peace,
amy

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i just saw this picture around a half hour ago.  i bought curve today.  it's a
great picture of them!

but how come ig wasn't one of the top 15 influential lesbians?

uh, oh, i feel a thread coming on...   :)

wmntime

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awwww...i'm so loved!!!  well..anyway...wasn't the cnn thing the cutest?
emily lookin sunny for the whole thing...jerry with some lovely smirk,
and amy so intent upon her mandolin til she looks up, relizes she's live
on tv and then smiles the darned cutest.....awwww

its soo cute...i think i'm in love.........  *sigh*

anyway....
carol
(whos not happy they cut gotm before amy got to hit that killer high
note for her......but she's still happy)

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on www.cdnow.com  it says that the girls are releasing a new album on june
30th.  has anyone else heard this or is am hallucinating?  any info would
be appreciated!
thanks all.
--sarah


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i just watched the live broadcast of cnn showbiz today. (it gets
repeated tonight at 3 - 3:30 am edt.)

it began with a montage of lilith fair clips -- performances, press
conferences, previous reports, etc. then came the live interview with
sarah mclachlan -- it was a short and breezy. she did mention that the
best part of it all for her was playing with the other female artists --
and she named ig first. the interviewer tried to dismiss the notion of
any feminist agenda or slant to lilith -- but sarah didn't let it go --
and instead actually embraced the concept of lilith fair helping to
achieve feminist ideals for women musicians. (way to go, sarah!)

then they went on and did several other showbiz stories -- and there was
a very brief (less than a minute) live (not on stage) performance by k's
choice.

then... finally... at the very end of the half hour -- 2 minutes and 24
seconds of ig performing gotm live. again, not on-stage, but backstage
in the little interview tent -- and the last minute or so was only shown
in half-screen during the closing credits.  <grrrr!>

but it was still cool to watch. the camera was seriously right up in
their faces. the first time it got right up into em's face -- she almost
started laughing as she was looking at someone off camera -- it was
pretty funny. amy seemed kind of shy at first with the camera so close.
my favorite moment was after the end of the first verse -- emily did her
famous gotm "yeeee-haaawww!" -- even tho they were playing it pretty low
key (for ig) -- with just a&e and jerry sitting right behind them
playing very low key (for jerry) percussion.

it was cute, but much too short -- and they didn't even get to play the
whole song... but, earlier they certainly showed plenty of footage from
george clooney's new bad movie... <sigh>

:o)
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~first off, not everyone on this mailing list is gay... so we need to
find an organization to donate to that would fit all circumstances...

first off! this ain't a flame! :) :) :)
i'm going by what has been stated throughout the day...i don't think
that the gay/lesbian idea was fabricated simply because emily is a
lesbian...*or* to exclude anyone.  the idea is appropriate because this
is a cause that she herself puts a lot of time and energy toward (or in
*my* opinion she does anyway)...the purpose of this birthday offering is
to do something in *her* name, and to pick an organization that she'd be
likely to help out.  yeah, she'd surely give to all of the organizations
that you mentioned (abuse networks...homeless shelters...etc.), but
right now with all of the cancellations and such, i really think she'd
really be into donatin' to this particular cause...it's important and
right now it's a big issue.  i think she'd be thrilled.
just my thoughts...

bethany :)

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sorry to waste bandwidth, but i also have to beg and plead for a good
soul out there to make a copy of the toronto ppv for me, especially if
you have one with reasonably good quality. i'd be happy to trade video
or audio boots for it. please reply by private email.

advthanksance,

monique


amy vorpagel wrote:
>
> ah, so those girls were at it again getting their faces out there for
> everyone to see. in case any of you missed it, they sang get out the map
> and it was pretty cool. close proximity to the camera, smiles
> (embarassed or shy, i think, for much of it), sounded and looked
> good-even if they did cut off the beginning and end, not to mention the
> hard angle the tilt the picture at while they roll the credits.
>
> hey, is there anyone out there who has a copy of that pay per view
> concert that they would be willing to copy for me? i think of it
> endearingly as the "barefoot amy concert" because i remember reading
> about her dancing around in bare feet. thanks!
>
> peace,
> amy
>
> visit me on the web!! http://www.geocities.com/wellesley/7728
>
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well, ill admit, you have made me rethink it a bit bethany...  i think either
would be a good thing... thanks for the input!

erin

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so, i've been zipping through all these bday posts...

i think youthpride is a good one, not because we're all gay or
lesbian, or because we all live in atlanta (like, i'm bisexual and
live in california) but because it's em's birthday and i think that's
what she might like the best.

not meant as a flame, but just cause you aren't the same as someone
does not mean they do not need your help, and , yes, there are tons of
people out there who need help. we cannot do everything. for this
occasion, i think doing something so obviouisly close to her heart is
the right way to go.

we all have other causes we support, and we all have our opinions.
it's not our day, though!

so, the short of it is, lets send the money to youthpride. and i vote
that the lovely jill certo (and whomever else is there) get to give it
to her in person, and just like every year we've done this, i really
really wish it was me!!!!


love and peace,


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hey everyone,
i would just like to say that i think that this is a really good idea and
offer my support. i also work for slam! and i am not just supporting this
idea because i do, but because slam! has done some really great stuff. we
are trying to organize another slam! for next year, but we really do not
have a lot of money. however, i do understand that with the concert
cancellations that the gay and lesbian issues are important, so maybe,
like dawn-michelle said we could split the money between two
organizations, like slam! and one of the gay/lesbian orgainizations.
anyway, just thought i'd share.

take care,
chloe

on fri, 26 jun 1998 w00ds0ng@aol.com wrote:

> hey everyone,
>  i think that we should also really considering giving money to slam!. yes,
> this year's slam! concert is over, but it's an ongoing organization. and
> because it was one of the causes we looked at for amy's birthday, i think we
> should reconsider. the slam! concert was amazing and amy and emily had a
> wonderful time. they were really into the cause- i know this because i work
> for slam!. i also would like to mention that slam! recently lost a lot of
> money, and they are in desperate need of funding. i also know that groups that
> work with gay and lesbian youth often have a lot of funding from their
> financial backers... slam! has yet to have help like this. one more thing i
> would like to suggest is maybe that we *split* the money we raise between the
> two. how does everyone feel about this????
>      dawn-michelle
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i agree w/ bethany on this one.  this donation is going to be made to an
organization that emily supports, it's not about us.  so, what if she
supported alzheimers research or breast cancer research etc..  do we have to
personally support or suffer from whichever infliction it is??  yes, i am gay
and i just wanted to state my thoughts on this.  hope no one takes offense to
this.  any  worthwhile cause that emily supports is good enough for me.
       .....we should designate someone to make a list of our top 5 or so
charities and then post em on the list..then the designated person could be
emailed privately w/ our vote.  also.. we can always split up $'s to 2
charities if need be.  every bithelps
~just my $.02~  jennifer

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i say go back to billings house..its a fave of hers..its in her hometown

she sponsors it
it went well last year
aids ain't cured yet, last time i checked
my .04
reiser?????where are are?

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hey now just a minute.  i'm straight as a board (exept for my huge tracks of land) and
i give real hugs always!!!!   <grin>


> (can anyone remember what was the
> movie in which there is a joke about how straight women hug with minimal
> body contact whereas lesbians give real hugs?)
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love,  karen

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hey y'all,

i'm gonna buy her a big mylar ballon and a birthday cake and hopefully be
able to get close enough to the stage to give them to her.  so far as
causes, why don't we all donate to one that we think is worthy in her name
and present her with a list of what we sent where?  just an idea

love,  karen

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before this gets outta hand i have a simple solution..
lets wrap me up..i'll do whatever she wants!!! ;)...(i have references,
she won't be disappointed).
sounded good to me

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> i'm gonna buy her a big mylar ballon and a birthday cake and
> hopefully be able to get close enough to the stage to give them
> to her. so far as causes, why don't we all donate to one that we
> think is worthy in her nameand present her with a list of what we
> sent where? just an idea

because the whole idea and reason that the charitable list gift now gets
every year for both a&e's b-days -- is that: it is a *group list gift*
-- all of us working together and contributing something worthy -- in
their names. so that it's *not* merely a bunch of small private
donations given in their names -- but a collective work of charity... be
it for chiapas... or billings house... or youthpride... whatever...

and we do it for something that *they* actively support -- which we hope
would please *them*...

we make suggestions... we vote... we reach concensus... we don't just
argue about it amongst ourselves until it's too late to do anything
worthwhile -- together as a group...

cooperation and consensus, ya know? we've done it before... we can do it
again... (i hope)...

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hi folks,

okay... i started to include snippits of other messages that pertain to the
point i want to make, but i can't make it all make sense, so let me simply
state my opinion! but before i even do that , let me say how pleased i am to
see this subject finally getting discussed--i feel much better now! thanks
for taking this seriously.

now for my personal input.--imho the group we choose to donate to needs to
be something significant to emily not us; it is *her* birthday present after
all! i agree with erin that there are many causes out there that could use
our donation, but the point is to honor emily! therefore, i very much lean
toward a cause related to gay/lesbian/bi/trans youth. my opinion is based on
a several factors: (1) as a lesbian, this must be close to her heart, (2)
the significance as it relates to the high school cancellations, and (3) my
own experience (now you have to listen to a personal sharing. well of course
you could choose to simply press the delete key now, but i hope you might
not do that!).

i am 37 years old, and am just now coming to terms with my sexual
orientation. i haven't figured out whether i'm bi or lesbian yet, but i can
say unequivicably that i am not straight, and i am currently wanting to
pursue a potential relationship with a woman! how does this apply to the
current question you must be asking right now! well, back when i would have
been dealing with questions of this kind there was no such thing as support
about the issue. in fact, the whole issue of homosexuality was taboo!! so
back then, it never occured to me that there were any options. so i did the
traditional thing, married a man, had kids and lived happily ever
after--not!!! (the only untrue part is the happily ever after). so now here
i am, i have three kids and a husband and i realize that it just isn't
working. and within the last 6 months it hit me that it is because i haven't
acknowledged many things about my own sexuality. so, my point in bringing
all this up is..... had there been an organization like youthpride when i
was younger, maybe i would have circumvented all this confusion at this
older age!!

now, i can understand where everyone might not embrace supporting an atlanta
org., since we are international. but it is very much my opinion that some
organization supporting youth and the sexual orientation issue would be the
way to go!

thanks for reading this far (if you did).

peace, laura

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dear all:

w00ds0ng@aol.com wrote:     hey everyone,  i think that we should also really
considering giving money to slam!.....

> ........they (a&e) were really into the cause- i know this because i work for
> slam!. i also would like to mention that slam! recently lost a lot of money, and
> they are in desperate need of funding. ...........dawn-michelle

************************************************************************dawn, i
hope you don't take offense & i realise that you & others care & are committed to
slam, but if the organization recently lost alot of money, i would be cautious as
to why, before committing $.

melissa

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sunny wrote:
>it also sounds like there's gonna be a big tailgate outside in the
>parking lot b4 the concert - fun - cant wait!

more info, please.  what are y'all planning?

jilly

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it would be wonderful if we could reach a consensus -- *asap*

i'm offering to tally up the votes -- but not to be in charge of the
gift collection or delivery -- i'll leave that for erin or jill or
whoever wants to deal with it...

but we need to get going on this because we started so late...

so far the suggestions are:

1) slam!
2) youthpride (atlanta)
3) national youth advocacy coalition (nyac)
4) billings house -- for aids patients (atlanta)

send your votes to me -- 1, 2, 3, or 4

reply with the subject header:  re: voting on em's bday gift

you don't have to vote today or tomorrow -- so that there can be more
discussion and to include those on digest. and since some folks don't
get to their list email on weekends.

i'll collect and tally all votes received until 8:00 pm edt tuesday,
june 30. then on tuesday night i'll post the results.

then erin or jill... or whoever can take it from there... okay?

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erin wrote:
>first off, not everyone on this mailing list is gay... so we need to
find an
>organization to donate to that would fit all circumstances...  let
alone, not
>everyone would like to donate it to the atlanta chapter...

yeah, that makes sense, and i understand what you're saying.  but (i
think) the birthday project is to pinpoint a cause close to *em's*
heart, not necessarily ours.  i think given the recent h.s.
cancellations, plus the fact that *emily* herself is gay, and calls the
atlanta area home, would make youthpride a good choice.  what do you
think?

not to negate the fact that so many are suffering, as you pointed out.

jill

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hey folks,

mel said:
>i'm offering to tally up the votes -- but not to be in charge of the
>gift collection or delivery -- i'll leave that for erin or jill or
>whoever wants to deal with it...

thanks, mel.  i definitely think we need to start voting as soon
as possible, then we can take things from there...

however.  a couple of points, before we actually start the vote:

>so far the suggestions are:
>1) slam!
>2) youthpride (atlanta)
>3) national youth advocacy coalition (nyac)
>4) billings house -- for aids patients (atlanta)

i hate to throw a spanner in the works but the billings house
shouldn't be on the list, as it doesn't seem to be around
anymore...  there was an article posted here a couple of months
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also, wasn't pflag also suggested at one point?  and... oh, that
gay/bi/straight teachers alliance in the us whose name i'm
blanking on right now?

i would also like to propose a two-part vote.  the first part of
the vote should be voting on charities.  the second part of the
vote should be voting on whether we want to donate to the charity
which receives the most vote, or split the money 50-50 between
the two top charities.

>then erin or jill... or whoever can take it from there... okay?

speaking of which - erin (gitroop@aol.com) and jill
(jillyc@hotmail.com), you two should probably talk to each other
and work out which of you wants to organise the collection and
donation, or whether you want to do it together.

thanks folks -
sherlyn
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larissa the wonder ride-offerer wrote:
>and i vote
>that the lovely jill certo (and whomever else is there) get to give it
>to her in person

that would be (thus far, as i've heard from):
the "lovely" (ha) me,
sunny happy sunny,
karen frey, road tripper (literally), and
bethany my foul-mouthed willis
as presenters.  c'mon, let us do it!?!?!

heh,
the lovely one and her cronies in crime

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mel wrote:
>then erin or jill... or whoever can take it from there... okay?

hey erin, email me will ya?  let's figure this thang out :)
jill

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jilly jill c saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaid:
~that would be (thus far, as i've heard from): the "lovely" (ha) me,
sunny happy sunny, karen frey, road tripper (literally), and bethany my
foul-mouthed willis as presenters.  c'mon, let us do it!?!?!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
two words:  haaaa-yle yeah. :)  thanks mr. drummond (jiiiiiilly). :)
i will help present as long as you can assure me of the following:

1.  willis (that's me :) won't barf on her gift.
2.  willis won't do a number in her pants.
3.  willis won't have a coronary (heh heh..melissa...are you out there?!
:)

coooooool dudes. :) i'm in.  i'm so excited to know that i actually get
to participate in this.  this is my shining moment...one that i've been
waiting for all my life.  and all of y'all (god, i'm *so* not southern)
will be there ta share it with me....oh, emily... :) :) ;)
heh heh...seriously...i think it's cool that we've all got such beeg
(said like cheech or chong) hearts. :) i'm looking forward to seeing her
smiling face. ;)

later dudes,
bethany :)

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personnally, i am thinking that this arguement about who to donate in her
name is getting a bit tiresome.  i aggree its a group list thing, that's why
i suggested giving her a list of what was donated in her name.

my money is with habitat for humanity...

karen

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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 23:00:41 -0400
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our list goddess, sherlyn, has made clear some important points... so
here are the revised *6* choices...

remember... you have til tuesday, june 30 8:00 pm edt to vote -- so
there's time for you to consider and reconsider...

the revised em's bday choices:

1) slam!
2) youthpride (atlanta)
3) nyac 0 national youth advocacy coalition -- for g/l/bi/trans youth
4) pflag -- parents and friends of lesbians & gays
5) glsen (gay lesbian and straight educators network)
6) habitat for humanity

all righty then... vote for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6

replying to me with the subject header:  re: voting on em's bday gift

if anyone who has voted thus far, would like to now change their vote --
that's cool...

then... monday night - june 29 (at sherlyn's request) i'll immediately
start tallying votes for:
"em's b-day gift - part 2" -- about whether or not we should divide the
donation 50/50 btwn the top 2 vote getters.

i'll post on monday night about how to vote on that one -- *please*
*don't* vote on that til monday night. there will only be 48 hours to
vote on part 2 -- i'll count the part 2 votes on wednesday july 1 at
8:00 pm edt.

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i never tailgated before, so you all tell me what to bring sans alcohol,
and look for a green explorer with an indigo girls bumper sticker on the
back and a usga member sticker on the rear window then wave me down!

karen

just jill wrote:

> sunny wrote:
> >it also sounds like there's gonna be a big tailgate outside in the
> >parking lot b4 the concert - fun - cant wait!
>
> more info, please.  what are y'all planning?
>
> jilly
>
> ______________________________________________________

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> and... oh, that
>gay/bi/straight teachers alliance in the us whose name i'm
>blanking on right now?
that's glsen, the gay, lesbian, and straight education network
(used to be ... teachers network, but they changed the name to include
students et al).  their website is, i believe, www.glsen.org

> erin (gitroop@aol.com) and jill
>(jillyc@hotmail.com), you two should probably talk to each other
it's being done as you type. :)

jill

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absolutely jill,  i'm game.  i'm serious about the cake too!  and the
ballon, and maybe just maybe we can burst into song for her at some
appropriate time  happy birthday to you...happy birthday to you  happy
birthday from your listees, happy birthday to you!

the road tripper...karen aka jill's pic (pardner in crime : )

just jill wrote:

> larissa the wonder ride-offerer wrote:
> >and i vote
> >that the lovely jill certo (and whomever else is there) get to give it
> >to her in person
>
> that would be (thus far, as i've heard from):
> the "lovely" (ha) me,
> sunny happy sunny,
> karen frey, road tripper (literally), and
> bethany my foul-mouthed willis
> as presenters.  c'mon, let us do it!?!?!
>
> heh,
> the lovely one and her cronies in crime
>
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i know this is far  fetched, but just say for a few days, all of us who
could, work on the same house for habitat in the name of emily sailers
(who sings like an angel) and maybe just maybe, they'd come totta get
outta bed, get a hammer and a nail learn how to use my hands...

not anything to do with anything but pipe dreams from an extremely tired
sunburnt road tripper....but dreams can become reality..gosh how the
lyrics just seem to take their

love,  karen (who gets scared when jilly has to drive too far)

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the new blue ep rocks!

love,  karen

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okay what i meant to say is gotta get outta bed, and then a little further
down i meant to say that the lyrics seem too just pour outta my head (maybe
cause i've been listening to them for hours on end while driving to atlantic
city and then even made the husband listen to them on the way to and from
york today!

i love you guys i really do...karen

karen frey wrote:

> i know this is far  fetched, but just say for a few days, all of us who
> could, work on the same house for habitat in the name of emily sailers
> (who sings like an angel) and maybe just maybe, they'd come totta get
> outta bed, get a hammer and a nail learn how to use my hands...
>
> not anything to do with anything but pipe dreams from an extremely tired
> sunburnt road tripper....but dreams can become reality..gosh how the
> lyrics just seem to take their
>
> love,  karen (who gets scared when jilly has to drive too far)
>
> --
>

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mel:

my vote...pflag.

(a) it's listed on the ig web page as a supported cause/charity and b)
it's a national group, so it's affect will be felt by communities closer to
home for many listees).  c)  it supports gays, bi's & straights who might
have family/friends who are gay.

melissa

mel wrote:

> our list goddess, sherlyn, has made clear some important points... so
> here are the revised *6* choices...
>
> remember... you have til tuesday, june 30 8:00 pm edt to vote -- so
> there's time for you to consider and reconsider...
>
> the revised em's bday choices:
>
> 1) slam!
> 2) youthpride (atlanta)
> 3) nyac 0 national youth advocacy coalition -- for g/l/bi/trans youth
> 4) pflag -- parents and friends of lesbians & gays
> 5) glsen (gay lesbian and straight educators network)
> 6) habitat for humanity
>
> all righty then... vote for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6
>
> replying to me with the subject header:  re: voting on em's bday gift
>
> if anyone who has voted thus far, would like to now change their vote --
> that's cool...
>
> then... monday night - june 29 (at sherlyn's request) i'll immediately
> start tallying votes for:
> "em's b-day gift - part 2" -- about whether or not we should divide the
> donation 50/50 btwn the top 2 vote getters.
>
> i'll post on monday night about how to vote on that one -- *please*
> *don't* vote on that til monday night. there will only be 48 hours to
> vote on part 2 -- i'll count the part 2 votes on wednesday july 1 at
> 8:00 pm edt.
>
> more peace,
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date:         fri, 26 jun 1998 23:53:09 edt
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... yessirree it sure as heck does rock!!  everything in it's own time is
haunting on it!!
~jennifer
                       p.s.  you guys must be right coast, eh??  we're all
still awake here on the left!!!  keep posting (:

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hey gang,

    question for y'all,   what's a reasonable price for 'uptown
girls'?   i was quoted $29.99   does that sound about right?

just happy to be a part of it all :^)

peace & love,
jules

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hey gang,

<p>    question for y'all,   what's a reasonable
price for '<i>uptown girls</i>'?   i was quoted $29.99  
does that sound about right?

<p>just happy to be a part of it all :^)

<p>peace & love,
<br>jules

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hey!  just a few things about this cnn spot.  *very* cool live gotm.  they seem
to be getting better at that whole camera-in-the-face thing.  did anyone catch
the funny expression on emily's face right after she does the west coast line.
very sweet.  but here's one question i had.  i taped the show and watched it
later, but i can't seem to find the k's choice part that someone mentioned
earlier today.  they said there was about a minute of live performance somewhere
during the half hour that was shot in the same tent structure where amy and
emily's stuff was shot, but the only other artist i saw broadcast from the tent
was a man and woman duo singing in spanish.  something about bandages without
wounds.  does anyone know this woman's name?  it's not rosana, is it?  let me
know if you've got the inside scoop on this group.  but although they were great
(the whole 20 seconds that they played) they certainly were not k's choice.  was
there really a performance by them?  if so, where in the world is it in the
show?  i'm going crazy...

oh and for those of you still wondering, the carlisle tree is about a day away
from being announced.  i know, i know.  promises, promises.  but you'll believe
it when you see it.  sorry for the delay...

marivel    "you taste just like
                i thought you would
                      you feel alright by me
                            it's been a while for me you know
                                    but i'm willing to let things
                                             just be..."  -brenda weiler

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date:         sat, 27 jun 1998 14:05:26 -0500
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does anyone have one extra ticket for the july 6th lilith fair?  my
friend is desperately seeking one.  lawn seat would be great, but she
would probably take anything.  if anyone has an extra ticket for sale,
please, please, e-mail me back asap !! thank you.

--trish

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date:         sat, 27 jun 1998 10:45:17 +0100
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hi everybody,

i was just checking out the daemon site and found that amy has written
some new notes:

notes from amy

ground control to...hey, i'm on the bus again and leaving the first
lilith show...heading up to yakima somewhere in the treehugging
northwest.  i'm listening to three finger cowboy and dear consumer i'm
here to encourage you - blatantly - to buy the cd kissed by three finger
cowboy.  it's rock, it's pop, it's also a little punky.  they remind me
of all those cool novelty candies from the 70's - the ones that crackle
and pop in your mouth - sweet and sour - spaceship stuff.  it's galactic
- what else can i say.  i was looking through 4 boxes of tapes ( i
prefer cassettes for demos) and saw the envelope and just knew somehow i
would find myself signing them onto the label . it's party music -
innocent fun.

daemon is still plugging and managing to survive in the pool of
murkiness and mergers.  how to stay independent?  hmmmm...we have a lot
of premiere songwriters and bands coming this fall and will spend the
remainder of the summer reminding everyone about terri binion, danielle
howle and the tantrums, new mongrels and three finger cowboy.  danielle
has some lilith dates down in the south - please...go over to her stage
and give her some props.  if you are in  college in the southeast
especially and would like to organize having any daemon bands play a
show - get in touch with us through e-mail.   the bands want gigs and
any help is cool.

the other thing you can all do is call your local college radio station
and request any of our bands.  we especially need help with three finger
cowboy in the southeast, northwest, and chicago area.  and once again,
any stores or fanzines you want to let us know about - e-mail us...or if
anyone wants to do an interview of the bands for college or high school
papers also let us know.

i have some recommendations -

z magazine - a very in depth & focused political and arts magazine
heralded by noam chomsky
                508-548-9063 - phone
                508-457-0626 - fax

book - the antelope wife by louise erdrich

movies - clockwatchers and high art

cd's - anthology of american folk music - box set smithsonian folkways
       sexpod - goddess blues
       public enemy - fear of a black planet

viva zapata-

        goodnight-

                amy ray

enjoy,

claudine

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date:         sat, 27 jun 1998 06:46:23 -0400
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hey y'all--anyone still have the phone number for boalsburg?  i got a
friend who wants to go

karen

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for those with internet access and seeking more info about the 6
charitable organizations for emily's birthday list gift -- here
are the official web pageses for 5 of them. plus one unoffcial page
(from may 97) with some dated info about slam! if anyone knows of
a more informative and recent page about slam! -- please share it.

the em's bday gift choices with their web pages:

1) slam!  (unofficial web page)
http://www.tripod.com/women/feature/columns/970515virginia.html

2) youthpride (atlanta)
   http://www.youthpride.org

3) nyac - national youth advocacy coalition
   http://www.nyacyouth.org

4) pflag - parents and friends of lesbians and gays
   http://www.pflag.org

5) glsen - gay lesbian straight educators network
   http://www.glsen.org

6) habitat for humanity
   http://www.habitat.org


to vote: select 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6

reply to me with subject header:  re: voting on em's bday gift
(or:  re: re: voting on em's bday gift)

you can vote up until tuesday, june 30 - 8:00 pm edt. then i'll
post the final tally. i'll post info about voting on whether or
not to divide the donations btwn the top 2 vote-getters monday
night (edt) - june 29 -- and will then count those votes wednesday,
july 1 at 8:00 pm edt.

one *important* point (especially for those on digest) -- make
sure that the subject header for your vote to me contains the
exact words "voting on em's bday gift" -- and *not* "digest
special edition..." (or whatever...) -- otherwise your vote
might get accidentally overlooked. also, don't send your vote
to the list -- unless you want to make a specific point -- major
waste of band-width...  :o)

even if you're not sure that you can really afford to donate
for the gift -- you can still vote. the charitable gift is from
the list as a whole.  the privilege of voting belongs to everyone
in our little community -- not just those of us who like to
e-voice our opinions. *and* don't assume that the vote is forgone
conclusion -- it's definitely not!

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number six for me!  habitat

karen (who'd like to see anyone underprivileged regardless of whether
they are straight, gay, black white purple orange green whatever have a
home)

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in a message dated 6/27/98 4:50:26 am central daylight time,
claudine@cableinet.co.uk writes:

<< cd's - anthology of american folk music - box set smithsonian folkways
        sexpod - goddess blues
        public enemy - fear of a black planet >>

so amy likes p.e., huh?  i knew there was a reason i liked her!  and i thought
i was a weirdo for liking bands as diverse as ig & pe, but now i feel
completely justified! :)

on another note: anyone out there know if us lillith fair-goers in albuquerque
may be blessed with an ig signing like the sfers got?!?!

peace,
lisa j.

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date:         sat, 27 jun 1998 11:59:35 -0400
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sorry for the nigc, but i know there was at least one person out there who
was trying to find erin's tape. i saw her play here in atlanta last night
and she told me she does have some left. if anyone is interested, just
e-mail me and i'll tell you how to get in touch with her to order them.

deanna

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date:         sat, 27 jun 1998 11:27:17 -0600
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>        public enemy - fear of a black planet >>
>
>so amy likes p.e., huh?  i knew there was a reason i liked her!  and i thought
>i was a weirdo for liking bands as diverse as ig & pe, but now i feel
>completely justified! :)

when i read the original post with amy's notes, i exclaimed "yeah!", and
then thought i needed to proclaim my love for p.e. to the list.  lisa beat
me to it, but anyway...

way back in 1989, i was going through my little white b-boy wannabe phase.
i actually (please don't laugh) had a malcolm x hat.  and bear in mind,
this was months and months before everyone in the world had malcolm x
stuff.  yes, i was on the bleeding edge.

so i got my very first stereo with a cd player, and i says to my mom, "you
know, i'll need a cd now."  we go to the music store, and i select "fear of
a black planet".  i did this with some trepidation, on account of the huge
parental advisory sticker on the front.  but my cool mom got it for me.
she regretted it later as i played it overandoverandover...

anyway, my very first cd ever was "fear of a black planet", and now, nine
years later, the wonderful amy ray gives it a shout-out.

it's the circle of life...

j u s t i n

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date:         sat, 27 jun 1998 10:09:31 -0700
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my choice is youthpride (atlanta)

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i also think that the gift would mean more if the charity is one that is
significant to emily.  has anyone out there ever been given one of those gift
certificates that reads, "$25 has been given in your name to (fill in the blank
charity)"  and the charity is not something that you have any connection or
affinity with--however, the giver is well connected to the charity?  most of the
time those types of gifts feel a bit empty.  now if the charity was one that the
recipient has an interest in, then the donation will have substance and meaning
for the recipient.

just my thoughts :)  not meaning to flame anyone here.

gina

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date:         sat, 27 jun 1998 10:46:58 -0500
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hey....
i just got back from san diego and thought i'd give y'all a review of the
del mar lilith.
shawn colvin was amazing, dancin' around on the stage and very pregnant.
emily and jerry watched her set from the side.  people were pretty mellow,
through her set and erykah's.  when the girls came on everyone stood up and
started dancing and singing.  it was sooooo good.  the set list was:
shame on you
least complicated
scooter boys
get out the map
shed your skin
galileo-emily stopped to let the crowd sing and it sort of seemed like only
a few people knew the words so amy looked over at emily and started
laughing at her.  it was cute.
problem child-there was no "i am a problem child...."part and it seemed
like they cut it short.  by then end amy was laughing pretty hard.
water is wide-with tara mclean and saram
rockin' in the free world-with k's choice
closer to fine-w/saram, taramclean, k's choice

it was over way to soon.  i did manage to boot the show, only the girls and
natalie merchant's sets (jerry played drums and sax on a few songs, and
natalie's trumpet player rocks!).  i have to warn you though, people talked
through the whole thing.  if anyone wants a copy, each set is about 50 min.
i'll be happy to trade for boots or blanks.

already impatiently waiting for the rtpr and spitfire tour....
java

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ok, sorry guys, i dont mean to cause any trouble... but i have been thinking,
and what about honor the earth?  oh jeez, maybe i shouldnt even bring it up...
ive already voted myself... ok ok!  just a thought!  dont worry, id be happy
just throwing this one out and never hearing of it again!!!

trooper

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>larissa wrote:
i think youthpride is a good one, not because we're all gay or
lesbian, or because we all live in atlanta (like, i'm bisexual and
live in california) but because it's em's birthday and i think that's
what she might like the best.

i second that- it is emily's b-day not one of ours... lets do something
she would like/appreciate


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are the ig coming east at all? please let me know.

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well they are going to be in bethlehem, pa on august 11...if that's what
you mean.

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hey ppls,

i'm probably just being my usual clueless self, but was the boot from
dickinson offered to the masses yet?

later,
feather

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hi,
i purchased an ig cd from ebay, and when it arrived there
was a hole drilled through the cd case, sort of on the
"spine" of the cd.  is this a cutout?  i remember they
used to carve a notch out of album cutouts, but i've
never seen a cd like that.

anyone know what this is (i'm sure someone does!) and
what it means?  thanks!

mary.
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7/13 there in holmdel, nj; 7/15-16 there in wantaga, ny; 7/17 there in
camden, nj; 7/18-19 there in columbia, md; 7/21 there in virginia beach,
va; 8/9 there in newport, ri; 8/11 there in bethlehem, pa
(dates from an insert in rolling stone)
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hey folks,

mary said:
> i purchased an ig cd from ebay, and when it arrived there
> was a hole drilled through the cd case, sort of on the
> "spine" of the cd.  is this a cutout?  i remember they

this usually indicates it's a promo or some other sort
of not-for-sale item...

whoops, gotta run.  more later i'm sure -
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barbara todd wrote:
>
> hey all!

>
> i keep reading about red and blue... not sure what these are.. please help!
>


  - i believe those are thread colors. (just kidding)  sorry, couldn't
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hey folks-

is there anyone who watched or taped the friday cnn showbiz
today with sarah mcl and ig... and "the mysterious female-singer/
male-guitar-player who are definitely *not* k's choice" who
performed the spanish song in a *10 second* live clip...

*and* who went to the san diego/del mar lilith -- *and* went to
see the acts on the side stages...

...who can now identify that spanish-singing female/male duo????????

i watched the cnn show on tape yesterday -- well, actually just
the beginning and the very end -- fast-forwarding thru about 20
minutes of it. i then posted a review to the list. i'm the
"someone" who misidentified the female/male duo as k's choice --
because i didn't even bother to watch them. as i was fast-fwding,
they went by -- i hit rev -- then ff again -- saw (barely) that
it was a female/male duo assumed it was k's choice -- and because
it was so brief -- never bothered to stop, listen, and realize
that she was singing in spanish *or* that they looked *nothing*
like sarah and gert bettens... i knew that a&e were singing
somewhere on that tape... and that was my priority at the time --
fast-fwding to ig...!  :o)

sorry 'bout that... <sheepish smile>
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hey!

last night i went to a local club i go to alot........they play lots of dance
music but sometimes they do play melissa etheridge.......they play madonna
alot......they never play ig, but who does really?  i think because there are
few if any of their songs that one could dance to........well, at this club, a
friend of mine has a friend who is dj'ing there temporarily.......so if you
know the dj, you can take cd's and she will play songs for you.......so i
decided to take the sys tom morello remix because i checked it out at my house
and i was able to dance to it........in a funky way........she played it twice
last night.......the first time she played it not many people were dancing to
begin with but you could see a few heads turn as they recognized the song, but
wondered, "what's up?"   ......later in the night, people were grooving on the
dance floor and she put it on again, and the floor basically
cleared.........bummer!  just wanted to let you all know.......nevertheless, i
enjoyed it immensely!

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don't forget july 10th at tussey mountain in boalsburg!!!

betsy coe wrote:

> 7/13 there in holmdel, nj; 7/15-16 there in wantaga, ny; 7/17 there in
> camden, nj; 7/18-19 there in columbia, md; 7/21 there in virginia beach,
> va; 8/9 there in newport, ri; 8/11 there in bethlehem, pa
> (dates from an insert in rolling stone)
> betsy
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yeah, i know this is after the fact but i was just wondering how many of us
that went to the wed. show in sf got to meet a & e?  i was lucky enough to and
zi know karen wrote about it thurs. but were there any other listees that got
the chance??
the only thing ii have to say about the experience was that i was in awe!!
and although i am an amy-fanatic i found emily to be very sweet!  one of the
best experiences of my life so far! (:  they both seemed sorta shy, too cute!
i hope that i get the chance to meet them again!
~the now hooked on emily, jennifer

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hi all,
   the list survey results will be up in about a week or so, but my
personal life has taken a very crazy and sad turn, so that things are
taking longer than i planned. for those of you who care, my gf and i have
been having a rocky time of it. well, after a month of pure chaos and hurt
i ended up having her taken to the hospital for a suicide watch, and i
called her parents, who came and got her. they can't stand me thanks to
some untrue things she told them (long story for anyone who wants to know,
so email me) so they told me thanks for calling and please get lost.  they
came from her home town and packed her things and whisked her away and
that's the end of my relationship with her. we were together for over a
year, and lived together until last month.
   anyway, i'll get those results up as fast as i can!
  peace,
      sharoane

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subject:      nyc concerts

ok, this is nigc, but of some relevance.

as alway, nyc summer stage is doing their free shows in central park
(rumsey playfield, 72nd street).  i have a brief list of artists that
might appeal to members of this list.

july 11, 3pm    lisa loeb and beth orton
august 8, 3pm   dar williams and tracie reagon (with big lonely)
august 9, 3pm   pakistan folk music--female, you gotta see it to
believe it
                (abida parveen, junoon, badar ali khan)

also, this year, they are doing a lecture series.  acts that might
interest this list:
july 9, 8:30pm  grace paley and bell hooks
july 30, 8:30pm *****michael moore*****  come learn about nike and
human rights abuses

also, tonight, chapte-n-verse are performing at meow mix here in nyc.
they are billed in the village voice's queer issue as "boston's
female-fronted chapter-n-verse, whose harmonies resemble the indigo
girls."  unfortunately, i can't make the event.

finally, the levi's fair talent search winner for nyc, antigone rising,
will be playing a show at the bitter end (147 bleecker between thompson
and laguardia in the village) on july 9 at 8:00pm.  $5 (a steal compared
to $64 for levi's fair).

cheers,
l'sly

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hey everybody,
i was wondering if anyone who happened to tape the lilith segment with ig
on cnn that was on yesterday has dubbing capabilities and could possibly
make me a copy. i really wanted to watch it, but stupidly on my part i
cannot figure out how to set my vcr and i could nt catch the one that was
on during the day and was too tired to get up at 3 am to tape it. i have a
long list of boots that i would be willing to trade or could send a blank
video tape and a sase. my e-mail is:

cch211@is8.nyu.edu (address all lowercase)

thanks a lot in advance and take care,
chloe

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date:         sat, 27 jun 1998 23:36:24 edt
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what? is everyone too sick with missingigobia to write tonight? just
wonderin....

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hey y'all...

i think that all the cause that we are thinking about are very good.  i am
willing to support any of them.  so, whatever y'all decide is good with
me.  just let me know and we should get crackin'!

and jill...if you hannd it to her in person, i am counting on you to say
"we think that you should do anohio tour...come to oberlin and
wittenberg."  :-)

love,
karen :-)

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  are we going to have a card w/ all our names in it.  not that emily would
know most of us from eve, but you know (:

how many of us are there on this list??
just curious---->  jennifer

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yes, after i/jill get the checks, we will list everyones names and email
addresses... but of course!!!


and we will take all the input from you guys on what exactly you want the card
to say...  hay, this is a group effort ya know... we are in this together.

g'nite...erin

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hey folks,

i accidentally deleted the message, but somebody (sorry)
asked how many people are on this list.  there are
currently about 700 people on here, plus there's another
200 or so on the news list...

back to work -
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did anyone meet a or e during lilith at the gorge?


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hey ho, neighbour,

well yes indeedy neil finn played in wellington, nz last night to a
sold a crowd, and man did he rock...!!!

he played most of the songs off his new album, and some of his
crowded house and split enz songs as well... he is such a great
live performer...

and talk about a multi-talented band as well, i think the
minimum requirement was that they could play at least 3
instruments... even his son, liam, did great...

but gee he must have had to take the concorde to get from
playing gotm with emily, to nz in time for the concert...!!! heh...

cheers,
lynda (*who still perpetuates the feeling that amy ray and neil
fin are one and the same...!!!*)

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need to know so i can figure out if a daniel benjamin wants that tape. i
haven't heard from her so if anyone knows her tell her to e-mail me. missy

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hey y'all!
   i got a list of feminist bookstores by state from the one i volunteer at.
if any of you want any info. on a feminist bookstore near you, drop me a line
and i can send you the info!
take care,
jen

*support your local feminist bookstore...she supports you!*

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---just jill <jillyc@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> larissa the wonder ride-offerer wrote:
> >and i vote
> >that the lovely jill certo (and whomever else is there) get to give
it
> >to her in person
>
> that would be (thus far, as i've heard from):
> the "lovely" (ha) me,
> sunny happy sunny,
> karen frey, road tripper (literally), and
> bethany my foul-mouthed willis
> as presenters.  c'mon, let us do it!?!?!
>

i'd *love* to be in on this!!!  ahh how coool!!!  *jumping up and
down*

take it easy -
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---karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net> wrote:
>
> i never tailgated before, so you all tell me what to bring sans
alcohol,
> and look for a green explorer with an indigo girls bumper sticker on
the
> back and a usga member sticker on the rear window then wave me down!
>
> karen
>

tailgating is fun...*grin* - bring whatever you want really - i could
help more - but unfortunately my 4 years of french are not paying off
bc i cant remember if *sans* means 'with' or 'without'  heehee...so
when i figure that one out- i can be of better help! ha

also - when i called to get the tix - the woman i spoke with was the
one who told me we could tailgate in the parking lot - i was totally
surprised - how cool.  so maybe we can have some sort of sign - look
for the green explorer and meet there!  *smile*

anyhoo - this is gonna be good.

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i just saw the end of what i think was showbiz today or whatever that
entertainment show is called on cnn.  it had the same interview clip with paula
cole that was shown on friday's show, but it ended running big yellow taxi from
the ppv along with the credits.  that's now how it ended last night so i was
wondering if this was a different bit of coverage?  anyone catch the whole
thing?  anything new?

> is there anyone who watched or taped the friday cnn showbiz today with sarah
> mcl and ig... and  who performed the spanish song in a *10 second* live
> clip...

and about friday's show...the man and woman singing in spanish for the few
seconds of live footage is a group called l'hasa.  thanks to all those who
helped me put a name on the music.  i've never heard of them but i'll certainly
be checking them out...

marivel    "you taste just like
                i thought you would
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                            it's been a while for me you know
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                                             just be..."  -brenda weiler

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sorry.  i never post nigc so here's my once in a life time...liz phair has a
song with a couple of different choruses in it that contain the lines "i want a
boyfriend" something about "letters and sodas" and then later the same chorus
but with the line "i want a girlfriend".  does *anyone* know what this song is
and on which cd i could find this track?  thanks!

marivel

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hi all,

well, i'm back from san diego and la liliths and too tired to post much
but here are a few things, cause if i don't answer them now, i'll forget
forever:

1. that other group on the cnn video was probably a couple members of a
band called lhasa.  i don't know what the female singer's name is and
their cd isn't coming out in the us until august but when it does, we can
check the credits.

2. i don't know what her dates are with lilith, but if you get the
chance, go see billie meyers.

3.  i'm not kidding, don't miss her.

4. as for what you can take into venues - what they say is only relevant
if you only want to bring in what they say they'll allow.  the real
question is more like what kind of security will they have.  so far
security has been lax. there were cameras all over san diego and no
attempt to stop anyone from taking pictures. (they are selling disposables
there, if you just want that kind of picture).  the rose bowl let me bring
in my recorder, carrots and a water bottle.  the guy said he was supposed
to take away the water bottle.  but he wasn't going to do it cause it was
hot out.  i think the word is out that this is not a firearms and
narcotics bearing crowd, but you know your own venues.

5. the highlight of the san diego set for me was problem child - amy said
it was the first time they tried it with the band, and at the end she
said something i didn't quite catch but basically "we screwed that up" in
nature.

6. oh, signings.  i doubt there will be much advance warning about when
the next ig signing will be, but go to the tower records booth when you
first get to lilith - they will have a white board with scheduled signings
listed.  if you don't see ig, you might want to ask because unlike most of
the other acts, they probably won't be signing after their set but rather
before (after would interfere with the other acts).

7. tell the tower people they did a great job with the booth, cause they
have to put that sucker up and take it down every day.  it takes about 4
hours just to get it set up!

8. today (l.a.'s) set list etc:

galileo

shed your skin

get out the map

chickenman - with sinead o'connor (oh yeah, sinead was a surprise
replacement for the missing sheryl crow!) and i believe amy also said rick
marotta (jerry's brother) sinead's solo was ethereal and beautiful.

power of two - with john cochran playing harmonica

scooter boys

water is wide with shawn colvin and sarah maclachlan

rockin in the free world with k's choice

and ...  closer to fine with - ellen degeneres(!) sara, shawn, tara
maclean (bumped from water is wide by shawn, or so it looked), billie
meyers (did i mention you should go see her?  she's more energetic than
amy is.  she climbs the scaffolding during her show.  i don't even like
loud music.  go see her)  and probably some other people.  oh yeah, k's
choice too.

so the rumored ellen doing ctf from their last trip to l.a. finally
happened this time.  she didn't have a solo part, just sang at the mike
with emily.

well, that's all i remember.

oh nope one more thing:  i got to pet rex!!!

'night

alison

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this was sent to me from the ellen list.

just got back from the la lilith show. ellen was there and joined the
indigo girls and others for a lovely rendition of "closer to fine." in
fact, ellen started them all off with the first verse. um, it was nice
watching ellen and everyone from my front row seat...

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i was just thinking how neat it would be if ellen were one of the
surprise guests in boalsburg...think she'd travel that far??  ahh just
a thought...that must have been pretty cool - im getting jazzed for
lilith...music...fun.

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at 11:18 pm 6/27/98 -0700,sunny wrote:
>
>bc i cant remember if *sans* means 'with' or 'without'  heehee...so
>when i figure that one out- i can be of better help! ha
>
ach achem... something *i* can answer ( since i'm sadly without any new ig
info these days stuck out here on the prairies... ) "sans" means without...
it's also a really inexpensive store in canada here, where-in ya can buy....
oh wait now... that's saans... never mind...
peace all, kim
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it won't be long until lilith finally reaches the dc metro area (yahooey!).
for those interested in meeting up before the event let me know what day(s)
you're going and your thoughts on where/when we should meet up. i'll keep
everybody who is interested, informed about what is going on...

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>yeah, i know this is after the fact but i was just wondering how many of us
>that went to the wed. show in sf got to meet a & e?  i was lucky enough to and
>zi know karen wrote about it thurs. but were there any other listees that got
>the chance??

i did.  i was the second to last one in before dave cut the line off. and
even though i only talked to them for less than a minute, it lasted a
blessed eternity.  i swear, it was like time slowed down. i think it has
something to do with their warm smiles...you get lost in them.


t: hi! <big smile>

a&e: <big gorgeous and warm smiles>

t: um, traci with an i. <freaking> (at this moment i realize that it is
impossible to have eye contact with both of them at the same time. ugh.)


a: <in that southern voice that melts butter> traci with an i...

(ohmy, amy just said my name.)

t: great show last night!

a: <guffaw, and other assorted loud laughter>

e: <laughs> thanks! (total eye contact here, and smiles)

a: well, it was a little loose last night... (total eye contact here. good
grace)

t: i like it that way. <laughs>

e: <laughs> oh, you do? (gleaming frickin' eye contact and the warmest
smile to boot)

a: well tonight we're going to try to tighten it up a bit.

t: <smiles, nods, do-si-dos, skips away>

ahh, perma-grin is a a wonderful thing.

cheers,
traci

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okay, lets plan.  i am driving solo so i cannot drink, and i don't know
if this is going to be an alcohol allowed event.  so...i'll put a sign
on my back window that saw's indigo-listees park right near here.  the
concert starts at 7pm, what time do you all want to meet?  i'll probably
have to work till 2 or 3, and leave directly from there.  its probably
at least an hours drive for me, or farther.

i'm bringing a big ass cake for emily and a mylar happy birthday ballon
for her, and i think sparklers would definitely be cool to put on the
cake.  sparklers are legal in pa, so that shouldn't be a problem.  i'm
not much of a mosher, cause i'm old (41) so someone (jilly?) is gonna
have to help get me up close.  we should all stay closeby during the
show so we can sing "happy birthday" during a lull, like when they are
changing guitars for the next song.  maybe at that point we can give her
the cake.

anyone with access to stickers should maybe put their list name on it
and something that identifies us as listees.  then we can find any
stragglers by their name thingies.

i'll bring stuff that won't spoil, like chips, pretzels, crackers,
soda's and something chocolate of course (my other addiction).

one other thing, i know we all do signs, so maybe if we all tape a
"listee" sign on our cars on a 8x10 it will help.  trust me, there are a
zillion green explorers out there!  but i can bet that i'm the only one
that has an ig bumper sticker!

love,  karen

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date:         sun, 28 jun 1998 12:56:51 edt
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in a message dated 6/28/98 11:14:01 am central daylight time,
listserv@netspace.org writes:

<< sorry.  i never post nigc so here's my once in a life time...liz phair has
a
song with a couple of different choruses in it that contain the lines "i want
a
boyfriend" something about "letters and sodas" and then later the same chorus
but with the line "i want a girlfriend".  does *anyone* know what this song
is
and on which cd i could find this track?  thanks!

marivel >>
the title of that liz phair song is "fuck and run".  it could be found on
exile in guyville....

brian

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there is an article on the girls in the latest goldmine issue (july
17, 1998).  there is a small picture of them on the front cover  (in
the upper right hand corner) and the article is 4 full pages
(including pictures).   enjoy !

tami

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* to win back my youth, there is nothing *
* i wouldn't do--except take exercise,   *
* get up early or be a useful member of  *
* the community. oscar wilde             *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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ummm... earlier i posted about the word "sans", but 1/2 asleep + the other
half coffee deprived, i sent the post as "brandon" ( my fifteen year old
son...) anyhoo... why i feel compelled to post the list about this, i have
*no* idea... so here's me; off to imbibe in a gallon or so o' coffee... kim
( still an emily kinda person, cause geez, i just *love* the womyn's lyrics... )
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does anyone know when the girls will be coming close to mississippi
again? i missed them in starkville recently and damn if they arent
playing lilith in atlanta nashville, or dallas!! help!

               peace
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okay, it's tomorrow...yee-haw!

so who's going?  let me know.  i like to meet strange people...i mean
strangers.  i will be the tall guy with the big red rage against the
machine shirt with the "e" on it.  ya can't miss me.  say hi.  i'll say hi
back.

j u s t i n

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indigo girls rocked!!!!  when they first got out there, em jumped up and down
with her guitar during galileo...i'm still getting over ellen being there...i
seriously thought em was joking when she introduced her... my mom and sis yold
me that ellen sang a line or something...but i was in lala land, so i missed
it :(  i wasn't too close, and i think i was annoying the people around me
screaming so much...:) they were  by far the best group there. i guess they
felt like rockin', cuz they didn't sing any slow song (except water is wide).
at the end of their set i was walking down to the bathrooms, and i yelled
"indigo girls rock!" and the people around me cheered for a few seconds...that
was pretty cool. amy didn't come out for the last song with everyone...wonder
why...em was hugging everyone that she sang by...so cute...very
smiley...amyray...that all i've got to say...i'm sure more little things will
come to me...but that's all i can remember for now...

pax, celeste:)

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prince of darkness...just listen some time

               later
              oldmanbill
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when is emily's birthday? sorry. i've been not checkin' my mail and deleted
the other listings except this one and i have no idea what's going on!!!
~alyssa

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what show are you guys going to when you're going to give em her b-day card???
bet it's not out here in the boonies called nh is it??? by any slim chance???
probably not. welp, buh bye.
~alyssa

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in a message dated 98-06-28 13:53:14 edt, huesteds@iu.net writes:

<< there is an article on the girls in the latest goldmine issue (july
17, 1998).  there is a small picture of them on the front cover  (in
the upper right hand corner) and the article is 4 full pages
(including pictures).   enjoy !
  >>

where can i get a copy of this?

~~tigger (the semi-completist.)

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i have 3 possibly five tickets to jones beach lilith fair on july 15th - ig
will be there!!!!  e-mail me privately if interested. i'll be away from june
29th to july 8th but the first rreplies can buy them at cost.  happy
indigoing!!!!!!! - jo

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uh-oh.
i got a little happy with the delete key...
could some kind person please mail me the voting instructions?
thanks!
terri

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hey everybody,
i'm up in ny to see the ig show that will be july 9th (thursday 7:30pm) at the
finger lakes performing arts center in ny...but so far none of my friends up
here can make it to the show due to work, school, and whatnot.  anyways, i was
wondering if anyone was interested in flying standby incase i can't get
anybody to go with me.  (how pathetic does that sound?)   : )  anyways, e-mail
me privately if you are.
thanks,
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hey y'all--
well, i tried to post earlier about my awesome lilith experience at
shoreline, but something got screwed up and it never showed up on the
digest, and i didn't have the heart to do it again, but since someone
asked...
i almost died when i saw the sign for the indigo girls signing.  i had
basically just walked into the place, and then as soon as i saw it i
planted my bottom right there and didn't leave until i met those indigo
girls! :)  yep, i waited there for about an hour and a half, and it
actually wasn't all that bad of a wait because i was around all these
other big ig fans, and it was cool to talk to them.  anyway, my shakes
started in as soon as i saw them being escorted through the crowd by the
security people.
and as it's getting closer to my turn, i'm trying to
think about what to say to them knowing that i only have a couple of
seconds.  i'm thinking to myself  "leslie, don't tell them you love
them..we don't want to scare them", so what do i say in my shaky nervousness?
"it's so nice to meet you. i love you".  good lord, of all the things i
could have said...  it just came out.  i couldn't help it.
so then amy asked me my name and clarified the spelling, and i took
pictures and stuff, and then she offered me her hand so i could shake it,
and i did, thinking "god, i'm *touching* amy ray", and then emily offered
her hand, and similar thoughts went through my head, and i said thank you
to them about 3 or 4 times.  i don't think emily said anything the whole
time,
but i can't really remember.  oh well...  the cool thing is, my friend
took a picture of me shaking emily's hand.  i can't wait to see that
picture!! :)
it was so awesome, and i'm still a little high from it.  but you know, it
was a really good thing because for some reason, standing 2 feet away
from them and shaking their hands and seeing their faces as they walked
through mobs of screaming people (they looked kind of uncomfortable about
that) has brought me more down to earth about the fact that they're just
people like anyone else.  i like that sensible state of mind. :)
ok, i could go on and on, but i'll stop now. :)
leslie :)

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i represented at nyc pride this year---wearing an ig t-shirt!

wmntime

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thanks to everyone who forwarded the voting instructions!
:)
terri

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i'm back earlier than planned cuz i hate my cousin (long story) but
anyhow i'm here! since i've been up since 4am pst i'm not even thinking
about boots till tomorrow when i've had some sleep!

san fran lilith was amazing, i'm in love with k's choice they kick ass
i'm so happy the girls and them did rockin in the free world i think
everyone on the lawn thinks i'm possessed cuz i sang with every ig song
and wrote down the setlist.
i got them to sign a cd!!! yay!!! i'm so psyched..what a nerd i was
though! so many ppl were in line that you had to go so fast, i just
stared at them, hands shaking and said ya'll are the best! and amy said,
"thanks a lot stacey!" and i almost passed out but i didn't i just
shook..*l*

ok since i feel so out of it:
what's going on in chiapas right now? what have i missed in the last
week? has anything been resolved? :(

did anyone boot the san fran lilith? please! i must have it.

has everyone filled you in on sf or do you want to hear about it? i
can't believe i went the night after joan baez was there :(

i'll let ya'll know when my lilith page is up we took apx. 20 pics of
the girls signing..and i've got pics of k's choice and billie meyers
too...just got to get them developed and scanned

*hugsnstuff*
fill me in on what i've missed! san fran is the dreariest place in the
world..then sun refuses to shine on that city!

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i just had to write about my experiences at pride parade this year.  it
was so much better than last years.  however, about 5 floats into the
parade was mayor gulliani.  when they reached 41st street in front of the
library, about 2 dozen demonstrators rushed in and sat in the street
(they were chained together) and wouldn't let them pass.  the mayor
walked around them, but supporters passed out yellow leaflets explaining
why they were opposed to the mayor.  the keystone cops came and got very
agressive with the bystanders (including myself).  the cops were real
assholes to the crowd.

however, when the gay and lesbian officer association got to us later in
the parade, they received the loudest ovation of any of the groups.
spectators rushed out into the officers (almost 50 strong) giving them
cards, flowers, etc.  it was really heartwarming.

sorry for the b/w.  i had to share.

l'sly

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hey folks,

this comes from the newsgroup...

-sherlyn
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sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au                  [sydney, australia]
"this is the song that we are always just this side of singing..."
                                        - peter mulvey

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a few assorted items for sale:

scratch and dent sale:

nomads indians saints - test pressing 12" vinyl - this comes in a plain
white sleeve which has a couple bends in the corners. the vinyl is in
fine shape. the sticker on the vinyl has the song titled hand written in
- probably by a dj - normally $75 - yours for $30

back on the bus y'all - promo 12" vinyl - comes in a black cardboard
sleeve with a purple sticker - black sleeve has some bends in it..vinyl
is in fine shape - $22

swamp ophelia - black vinyl - personally autographed by amy and emily -
looks like the cover got wet..has some wrinkles..autographs were
unharmed - $15

michelle malone - relentless 12" vinyl - vinyl has some problems..don't
know how much it will effect play - still a tough find - $14

galileo promo cd single in digipak - nice collectible - corners are
dinged up a little..disc is fine - $12


all the above listed items have problems with their condition..not this.
all the items listed from here down do not have problems.

galileo - holland pressing - 7" vinyl - kid fears is the b side - $15

michelle malone - grace cd single - signed by michelle - $12

melissa etheridge - 2001 cd single - $14

melissa etheridge - dance without sleeping cd single - $15

sarah mclachlan - drawn to the rhythm cd single - $10

michelle malone - swinging christmas at the attic - signed small promo
poster - $17

indigo girls - 4.5 promo digi pak - $30

ig - reunion promo cd single - $17

ig - swamp ophelia album cover t-shirt - $12

ig - strangefire - 12" vinyl - epic records re-issue - $15

ig - import swamp ophelia 12" vinyl - (these are not signed) $20

ig - cool hand bill for ann arbor show - $10

ig - rites of passage long box cover sheet (like a small poster - looks
like the old long box cd covers opened up) - $15

write with any questions - postage is extra
joe

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in a message dated 98-06-28 12:14:08 edt, karenfrey@redrose.net wrote:

<<  but i can bet that i'm the only one
that has an ig bumper sticker! >>

i am dying to get an ig bumper sticker.  i was hoping to get one at gay pride
today...i got a couple of rainbow stickers but alas, no ig....

my ex-gf had a great ig sticker...i'm assuming she got it at a concert.
anyway...just rambling.

wmntime

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i have (on my truck) the blue and white ig bumper sticker that i ordered from
the fan club. (c/o russell carter)  can't you still order stickers thru them.
i also have 2 of the older stickers that are the peace symbol w/ ig on it.. i
haven't seen any of those in the fan club letters though for aw coupla years
now.
~jennifer

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date:         sun, 28 jun 1998 19:06:00 -0700
reply-to:     lynz@pacbell.net
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from:         lynz floren <lynz@pacbell.net>
subject:      re: sf lilith autographs
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i was just arriving and my friends grabbed me and pulled me into line
and told me amy and emily were signing in half an hour.  i was really
excited and after waiting 45 minutes they were walking rigth by me to
the desk.  i waited a little bit and there i was, asking if the girls
would sign my shirt.  i would compare it to a teenage girl meeting the
beatles.  i could utter nothing except. "did you guys know you are
awesome?  youre awesome."  they looked up at me with this goofy look and
they probably didnt care, but i was happy anyway.
                        lynz whos seeing them again in ok city

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date:         sun, 28 jun 1998 22:06:06 -0400
reply-to:     karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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from:         karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net>
subject:      extra red sys cd
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hey you guys, i wanted to offer you all the red sys cd.  (jill, don't be
mad, i asked you first  : )) anyway, i bought it on ebay and then i got
another one for free from a local radio station.  i'm only asking what
i  paid for it-18.50, which is alot i know, but before i had it, i
didn't really care what it cost---you know the indigo greed factor.  so
anyway, its up for grabs, first person to email me gets it, all i ask is
for a sase to mail it to you.

its a funny story, really, i ended up with 3 reds, no blues and some
kind soul on the list had 2 blues and no reds so we swapped.

anyway, here's a chance for some lucky quick typer!

love, karen

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date:         sun, 28 jun 1998 22:58:09 edt
reply-to:     memememi@aol.com
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just when you thought you had all the different versions of shed your skin,
there's a new one out there........................

this one is called the "stephen nikolas club edit", and is available on a
special epic tape that was given away at atlanta pride this past weekend.

someone recently said something about having heard sys playing in a club and
seeing the floor clear - well, this is a true "dance" song.    the actual only
part that remains of the original song is amy's vocals, and a slight hint of
ulali and emily................ and those are speeded up.  and it's about 7
minutes long!

good luck finding it!
=)
lisa

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date:         sun, 28 jun 1998 23:03:35 -0400
reply-to:     chloe c heymann <cch211@is8.nyu.edu>
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from:         chloe c heymann <cch211@is8.nyu.edu>
subject:      lilith ticket
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hey everybody,
actually i am posting this message on behalf of someone else. i am
supposed to go to lilith fair at the jones beach ampitheater on wednesday
july 15th with two people. one of them, ilana, who is on the list is
trying to sell her ticket because she a slightly better seat. anyway, i am
posting this for her because she is leaving for camp tomorow and already
signed off the list for the summer. so, she wants to know if anyone wants
to buy the ticket for this date. she is selling it a full price--$58.75
so, if anyone is interested please e-mail me back and i will let her know.
it will be sold on a first-come first serve basis, so the first person who
responds will get the ticket. i will give whoever is interested ilana's
name and address and info for payment. my e-mail is:

cch211@is8.nyu.edu  (address all lowercase)

thanks a lot and take care,
chloe

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date:         sun, 28 jun 1998 23:23:38 -0400
reply-to:     karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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from:         karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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okay sorry to say, offer is closed.  i'd still be willing to tape both
for anyone who wants them for no cost.

send me a note telling me what you want and a tape and sase and anyother
ig baubles you'd like me to have for being so sweet----like backstage
passes for lilith in camden or boalsburg!! or musikfest

love,  karen

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date:         sun, 28 jun 1998 23:35:15 edt
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well a few years back.... like 5 or so... we got a few of the peace ones at a
concert i think in ohio.  they are cool and have lasted very well.

i wish i had gotten more when i had the chance.  oh well!

btw... i cant wait untill the 15th!

babs

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date:         sun, 28 jun 1998 23:32:59 -0400
reply-to:     karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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from:         karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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oh forgot something:

karen l. frey
38 wade drive
lititz, pa  17543

60 minute tape will do fine, send a note along with your stuff : )

karen frey wrote:

> okay sorry to say, offer is closed.  i'd still be willing to tape both
> for anyone who wants them for no cost.
>
> send me a note telling me what you want and a tape and sase and anyother
> ig baubles you'd like me to have for being so sweet----like backstage
> passes for lilith in camden or boalsburg!! or musikfest
>
> love,  karen
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