lifeblood: listlogs: 1998-07c


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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 00:02:44 edt
reply-to:     grrrrlies@aol.com
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from:         celeste kennelly <grrrrlies@aol.com>
subject:      celeste is leaving....again...*sniffle*
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i hafta leave the list, cuz my dorky sister said something real bad to my
aunt...and since she owns the puter, my sis was kicked off, and since my sis
and i share a screenname, i gotta leave too...( they don't believe that i can
keep the password a secret from my sis...ha) so i'm really mad and sad that i
gotsta go...

:( i'll miss y'all so much...

don't worry though.. i'll be back:) as soon as i move and get our puter
started up again when we move in a few weeks...but it might be a while...you
guys give me sumthin ta think about every day...i'll miss
that....booooohooooo!!!!!:( i don't know why i'm getting so choked up about
it...i know i'll be back..i'm just weird like that:)

don't bother e-mailing me ( i know this post isn't affecting any one of you,
and no one was even considering mailing me, but just to be sure...:)

pax, celeste:)

p.s. don't say anything until i get back:)...hehe

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 00:32:14 edt
reply-to:     rungek@aol.com
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from:         kara runge <rungek@aol.com>
subject:      crazy dream with miss amy ray
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for those of you who don't know me, my name is kara, and i had the most crazy
dream early this morning...

me, my friend j. and amy ray in a grocery cart at a supermarket somewhere
pushed by sarah lee....looking for her left red "sara lee" shoe.....we roam
around the market looking for that damned shoe calling "here shoe...." "sara's
shoe--where are you..."  we see it hopping out of the market--first we have to
stop and buy pickels (?) for amy?  (don't ask me...) we leave the super to
find ourselves in a plastic jungle (like munchkin land in oz...) looking for
the shoe....

{switch scenes....}

me, my friends jules, katie and miranda (all from a camp i used to work at)
and amy ray....in old indian war canoes with a war tribe...on a
river....heading into war with these old, rusted, clunky, mean looking robots
which are slowly chopping down huge trees on the shore of the river....we were
paddling like mad to get close enough to the shore inorder to shoot arrows,
but everytime we came with in twenty feet of the shore--the shore would move
back another fifty feet....meanwhile, my friend jules is standing in the bow
of the canoe screaming, piss mad, at the metal figures on the shore, katie was
trying to rationalize with the war tribe that we did not know for sure if
those things were human or not and therefore should not be shooting at
them--lest we harm a living being--no matter how evil they were--one always
had to try to reason with them first...miranda praying to the goddess to guide
us....and i completely histerical in the stern of the canoe because i had no
power to do anything....a.r. was in one of the war tribe canoes, calmly
pushing forward.....it was an eerily dead calm perseverence...and then
"scooter boys" comes into the background....(i think it was playing on my
stereo at that moment...)

{switch scenes....}

then i am in a place of complete and utter darkness with the exception that i
am illuminated by a something like a spot light...screaming
"why....why...why...f---you...f---you....f---you...." over and over
again....with a knife that would not cut...and a wrist which would not
bleed....(the last of which sounds like lyrics i've heard somewhere....)

and then i woke up...completely freaked out...wondering why the hell i was
trying to cut my wrist....

anyway, it was odd.
peace,
kara.

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 00:26:12 pdt
reply-to:     toye <indigowomyn@ruralcom.net>
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subject:      how much further if u r smooth
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i was chatting at the "get together" chat room.  we were discussing kid fears.  there were a couple of folks there w/ different takes on what amy meant by "how much further you can spin, how much further if you are smooth."  kid fears is the song that made me want to listen to ig more.  don't know what the intent was, but i related to it because i was going through recovery from childhood abuse.  i thought the smooth stone line was a metaphor for people.  my take was that smooth = trying to fit in...abused children always try to fit in...another in the chat room thought it was possibly about trying to fit in being gay.  and someone else mentioned the reference to hawthorne's "scarlet letter."  interesting.  was wondering what fellow listees thought about this...

toye

"...when you hate me, i can still love you."
                                                           --amy ray

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date:         tue, 14 jul 1998 23:35:39 pdt
reply-to:     jill again <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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from:         jill again <jillyc@hotmail.com>
subject:      overheard on a playground today...
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... "gloria, stop yelling at her like that...  that ain't no way to
treat a friend!"

yes, that summer camp igc was intentional.  in an attempt to spice up
the day, i'm working in as many song lyrics as possible.

jill


"i can't say, over the miles, that i had learned what i had wanted to
know because i hadn't known what i wanted to know.  but i *did* learn
what i didn't know i wanted to know."

                                                           blue highways


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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 02:59:03 edt
reply-to:     mmedido@aol.com
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in a message dated 98-07-15 00:35:22 edt, kara shares her strange and
wonderful dream and  writes :

<< anyway, it was odd. >>

dear kara,
i have analyzed your dream and have concluded that deep seperation
anxiety with your mother has caused you to crave plastic pickles.
classic edible complex.

glad i could help.
;)
dr sigmund fraud

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 18:14:55 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject:      suffragette article from wall of sound
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here you go folks - another suffragette article, this
time from wall of sound (http://www.wallofsound.com).

-sherlyn

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july 13, 1998
indigo girls in suffragette city

the indigo girls are putting another all-female show on the road.
after a stint with the mighty lilith fair, the girls have decided
to go organic and stage a series of grass-roots shows, dubbed the
suffragette sessions tour. hitting the road with them will be
drummer kate schellenbach from luscious jackson, former breeder
josephine wiggs, singer-violinist lisa germano, canadian
chanteuse jane siberry, bowie bassist gail ann dorsey, lourdes
perez, jean smith from mecca normal, and singer-guitarist thalia
zedek from indie supergroup come. and in a move that's sure to
inspire brainstorming (not to mention cycle influencing), all
12 performers will be traveling in the same tour bus.

while both lilith and suffragette are all-female, the
similarities end there. unlike lilith, these concerts will have
a definite "jam" vibe going on, with participants joining each
other in various combinations, creating unique and spontaneous
music each and every night--that, and the stages will be much
smaller than the huge venues lilith has been playing.

the apparent inspiration for the show comes more from bob
dylan's 1975-76 rolling thunder revue, rather than sarah
mclachlan's creation. the former tour saw a varied cast of
musicians (dylan, joan baez, kinky friedman, t-bone burnett, bob
neuwirth, and others) indulge in collaborations on small stages,
creating a much looser, free-wheeling energy.

the suffragette sessions tour kicks off aug. 19 in portland,
maine, and wends its way through cities east of the mississippi
until its end date in new york. the tour will be playing in
relatively small venues, ensuring the preservation of the
intimacy such a tour invokes. audience response will determine
whether or not the suffragettes will make this an annual event.


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sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au                  [sydney, australia]
"this is the song that we are always just this side of singing..."
                                        - peter mulvey

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 18:11:29 +0900
reply-to:     susan & scott <scorpio7@sagami.or.jp>
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from:         susan & scott <scorpio7@sagami.or.jp>
subject:      nigc - ani at wolftrap boot
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sorry for the nigc, but since there are so many ani fans here, thought i'd
offer this up.

i just received the ani at wolftrap from june 21 boot. this is a _great_
boot! the sound quality is excellent. you hear _everything_. all ani's
anecdotes are crystal clear. the set list is:

lpc
fuel
2 little girls
jukebox
as is
letter to a john/pulse
up up up
anticipate
angry ant more
come away
tiz of thee
swan dive
loom
shy
shame

encore
when doves cry

so i'm offering this up to anyone who'd like one. i'd like to trade, but if
you have nothing to trade, blanks are fine too.

email me privately with your bootlists, or for more info.

peace,
susan
scorpio7@sagami.or.jp

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 05:30:00 pdt
reply-to:     "rose y." <rosilyne@hotmail.com>
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i think levee refers to stanfords father, who played a significant role
in his life, in the song i think it is a twist of wrods, his father was
some sort of levee contector or something like that.
peace-rose

>levee'd like a treasure...after knowing about stanford, i always
thought amy is referring to the other levee.  not the one that holds
back water.  the other, i think mainly british usage, meaning a
reception in honor of royalty.  i thought that may also be the reason
for the spelling "levee'd."  unusual, to say the least.  i thought this
could be because she's using a noun as a verb...of course, this is all
just mho and the truth as i see it according to the rules i have set

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 07:15:49 -0500
reply-to:     julie dougherty <jules@mr.net>
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from:         julie dougherty <jules@mr.net>
subject:      re: crazy dream with miss amy ray
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howdy kara

        here's my interp...

        first dream;
        the pickle was the big give away here....i think we all can agree that
this is, indeed the final clue, as to who, on the lilith tour is
pregnant !  :)  that amy ray...she's so sneaky....

        second dream;
        obviously the 'water is wide....you can't cross o'er.'   ya think?

        third dream;
        if that isn't 'blood & fire' revisited, i don't know what it is.

happy day!
peace & love,
jules


ps... kara...i'm off to work, but i'll get with you later and let you
know the real interpretations i got from those dreams....see ya
~~~~~
after silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressable
is music.
                -aldous huxley
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human diversity makes tolerance more than a virtue;
  it makes it a requirement for survivial----  rene dubos  1981

kara runge wrote:
>
> for those of you who don't know me, my name is kara, and i had the most crazy
> dream early this morning...
>
> me, my friend j. and amy ray in a grocery cart at a supermarket somewhere
> pushed by sarah lee....looking for her left red "sara lee" shoe.....we roam
> around the market looking for that damned shoe calling "here shoe...." "sara's
> shoe--where are you..."  we see it hopping out of the market--first we have to
> stop and buy pickels (?) for amy?  (don't ask me...) we leave the super to
> find ourselves in a plastic jungle (like munchkin land in oz...) looking for
> the shoe....
>
> {switch scenes....}
>
> me, my friends jules, katie and miranda (all from a camp i used to work at)
> and amy ray....in old indian war canoes with a war tribe...on a
> river....heading into war with these old, rusted, clunky, mean looking robots
> which are slowly chopping down huge trees on the shore of the river....we were
> paddling like mad to get close enough to the shore inorder to shoot arrows,
> but everytime we came with in twenty feet of the shore--the shore would move
> back another fifty feet....meanwhile, my friend jules is standing in the bow
> of the canoe screaming, piss mad, at the metal figures on the shore, katie was
> trying to rationalize with the war tribe that we did not know for sure if
> those things were human or not and therefore should not be shooting at
> them--lest we harm a living being--no matter how evil they were--one always
> had to try to reason with them first...miranda praying to the goddess to guide
> us....and i completely histerical in the stern of the canoe because i had no
> power to do anything....a.r. was in one of the war tribe canoes, calmly
> pushing forward.....it was an eerily dead calm perseverence...and then
> "scooter boys" comes into the background....(i think it was playing on my
> stereo at that moment...)
>
> {switch scenes....}
>
> then i am in a place of complete and utter darkness with the exception that i
> am illuminated by a something like a spot light...screaming
> "why....why...why...f---you...f---you....f---you...." over and over
> again....with a knife that would not cut...and a wrist which would not
> bleed....(the last of which sounds like lyrics i've heard somewhere....)
>
> and then i woke up...completely freaked out...wondering why the hell i was
> trying to cut my wrist....
>
> anyway, it was odd.
> peace,
> kara.
>
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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 09:09:29 -0400
reply-to:     nighthawk <dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu>
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from:         nighthawk <dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu>
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> so, since the sufferagette tour is taking place in bars, does this mean
> i have to worry about getting a fake id?

   depends on where you are.  new york has an "18 to party, 21 to drink"
thing that i really like, because i can go see local musicians with
friends, and i'll be the designated driver, and the bars really treat you
right -- free non-alcoholic drinks, etc -- if you let them know.

> erin, who never believes when people tell her that turning 21 is no big deal.

   i need a fake id.  i went to see luther allison's son with my mom and
they wouldn't let me in.  i got pretty damn angry, considering the fact
that the son of one of the greatest blues players ever was probably within
a stone's throw, and i was being thwarted by some thug who probably had no
music appreciation whatsoever...  mom said i could get a fake id,
though...  ;)

   darius

"night life, ain't no good life
but it's my life..."
   ---b.b. king/willie nelson, "night life"

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 04:40:16 -0400
reply-to:     mcunningham5@earthlink.net
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from:         mike cunningham <mcunningham5@earthlink.net>
subject:      blister by phish too!!!
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hkf's,
just a little random fyi setlist of another band (you're obsessed when,
etc...).  in case anyone is going to see phish, be sure to request this
song!!!  i thought it was funny they played this - (maybe wish you were here
& down by the river are next?)  they start their us portion of the tour
tonight in portland... enjoy yourself!
8-)


7/9/98
zeleste, barcelona, spain
i:   carini, boogie on reggae woman > nicu, split open and melt, meat,
     poor heart, tweezer, hello my baby*

ii:  drowned, theme from the bottom, when the circus comes, scent of a mule
>
     blister in the sun > scent of a mule, harry hood** > izabella

e:   chalk dust torture

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 09:47:48 -0400
reply-to:     "davidson, leigh ann" <ldavidson@asabenefits.com>
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kathleen mulhern <kmulhern@scenicsoft.com
<mailto:kmulhern@scenicsoft.com> > wrote:

>so what happened?  did she get up or did you let her sit there?  what
did she say when your friend asked >her to leave?  what did you guys do?

she got up since my friend practically made her get up...if i had only
gotten there a few seconds earlier (before my friend) i would have given
her my seat :-)  i don't think she said must...according to my friend,
amy was shocked that my friend didn't know who she was...

>and what does this mean?  did you ask her for a picture and she
refused?  was she rude to you guys or >what?  did she just get up and
leave or did she keep sitting there?

once she got up, she and her blonde friend stood at the back of our
section against the railing...i went up to her then to see if i could
get a picture but she said 'not right now' cause she was watching missy
elliot...she did not seem too happy to get kicked out of her seat...

>sorry about all the questions, but i'm very curious!
that's ok, i like talking about it...most of my friends are not big ig
fans, so i think they are sick of me talking about it :-)

-leigh

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 06:53:07 pdt
reply-to:     sarah emily <emily_2@hotmail.com>
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hi everyone
sorry that this isn't strictly very ig related but i've been thinking a
lot about their highschool concerts that got cancelled in the spring.
i'm on my way to teacher's college next year and these incidents really
highlighted the homophobia that is still so ingrained in the school
system.  anyhow i was wondering if there's anyone else on this list who
teaches or works with children who has come up against these issues and
would like to discuss it privately.
sarah


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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 09:11:32 -0500
reply-to:     greg flamer <gflame@megsinet.net>
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woowee am i glad i resubbed to the list.  i live down the block--we're
talkin within walking distance to the riviera theater ion chicago where ig
will apparently be playing in august.  would have never known without the
list.  hallelujah!

i don't yet have ticket sales info but do know a bit about the riviera.
it's located on n broadway (1200w) at w lawrence ave (4800 n).  close to
the l and the aragon if you've ever been there.  the riviera is a cool
place to see a show because it is very small--fits like 2000-3000 max.
it's an old theater and kinda dumpy but i guess that gives it charm :).
for those frantic about getting up early to get tickets and waiting in
line--don't do it.  there are no chairs in the place and it's general
admission all the way.  i can't stand ga shows (right margaret!) usually
but being that the place is so small there really isn't a bad seat (so to
speak).  your legs get kinda tired standing the whole time but in all
honesty i do that at ig shows anyway so at least no one can say sit down
:).  i guess if you're a real die hard the time to stand in line would be
on the show dates themselves as opposed to when tix go on sale.  maybe i'll
have a pre-show gathering at my apt.  there's plenty of parking up by me
and you can't say that in too many places in chicago.  more details to
follow.  if people know of an exact on sale date do tell!!  very excited!!

greg

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 10:10:05 edt
reply-to:     ljebsen@aol.com
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hey all!
i'm reading a book called "conversations with god" & it's reminding a lot of
what em speaks of in "galileo."  anyone out there read the book?  i'd love to
discuss it -- email me privately if you're interested.  'k?
peace,
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>intimacy such a tour invokes. audience response will determine
>whether or not the suffragettes will make this an annual event.

you know, i'm really psyched about these shows, and i'm
really glad they evolved to a more woman-friendly name
for the tour, but i do wish that they'd used
"suffragist" which is what the people associated with the
women's suffrage movement called themselves and not
"suffragette" which was a diminutive name imposed on
them by people hostile to the movement...

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k.  i'm looking for any good boots of tracy singing
"the promise" because it means very much to me.
lemme know via private email,
love,
amanda

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>
>>intimacy such a tour invokes. audience response will determine
>>whether or not the suffragettes will make this an annual event.
>
>you know, i'm really psyched about these shows, and i'm
>really glad they evolved to a more woman-friendly name
>for the tour, but i do wish that they'd used
>"suffragist" which is what the people associated with the
>women's suffrage movement called themselves and not
>"suffragette" which was a diminutive name imposed on
>them by people hostile to the movement...

i thought that "suffragette" & "suffragist"  were both used...on in
england & one in the usa.  i just don't remember which country used
which.  of course, i  could be waaaay off.  i think this trivia stuff is
gonna get the best of me someday......
carol

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this doesn't really fit in with the ongoing suffragette vs. suffragist
arguments, but i thought i'd mention it anyway. :)
for those of you who managed to catch some of the vh1 festivities on
sunday...did you notice that amy mentioned the word suffragette?!  i
thought it was interesting, considering all of this new tour excitement
here on da list. :)
when asked what she had learned from the tour (or something like that),
she responded wiiiith..."i've learned that we have to respect our
elders...we have to remember that some of the grandmothers out there
were suffragettes...etc.." made me smile. :)
can't wait to see these shows. :) and *twice* in ohio! damn!

bethany :)

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>this doesn't really fit in with the ongoing suffragette vs. suffragist
>arguments, but i thought i'd mention it anyway. :)

no argument, just a personal opinion.

>unday...did you notice that amy mentioned the word suffragette?!  i

actually, it's in a line of one of her new songs.  i suspect
that's where the name of the tour came from.

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hey all.
any chance that anyone on this list
will be at orientation tonight for rutgers grad. school?
just checking.
jk

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i spoke with my friend this morning at viacom.  he said they are
anticipating an additional 4-7 dates (however, it is unlikely that the
west coast will be included in on those).  i'll keep digging for more
info.

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**this doesn't really fit in with the ongoing suffragette vs. suffragist
arguments, but i thought i'd mention it anyway. :)
>no argument, just a personal opinion.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~i'll be more careful next time. didn't mean for "argument" to be taken
literally... should've said
debate/discussion/opinions/ideas/thoughts/...etc...blah blah blah.
guess i've gotta be *real* thorough so as not to be taken the wrong way.
;o

**...did you notice that amy mentioned the word suffragette?!  i
>actually, it's in a line of one of her new songs.  i suspect
that's where the name of the tour came from.
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~~what song is this?!  just wondering if i've heard it.

bethany

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ok ya'll what do ya'll think of the new mongrels?? i know amy, emily,
michelle, michael, etc..are all part of this, but is it good? is it
worth the money? do ya'll have either of the cds? do you like 'em??
i'm having to order danielle's live at mckissick museum cd again cuz i
left it accidentally at my cousin's house when i was out in san
francisco for lilith fair. she says she doesn't have it (freaking case
also had the 2nd lilith fair cd in it so i have to re-buy that too!!)
but i know it has to be there..cuz i remember a couple cds fell out of
my suitcase on her floor..and i musta just missed that one :***(

so anyhow i thought i might as well get a copy of the nm cd (the 'rents
are paying yay!! *l*) while i'm at it, as long as it's good!!
so lemme know!

*hugs*

lamia
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but i can pretend.
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but i have a light..."
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here's some info on the suffragette sessions tour stop at the rave in milwaukee on thursday, august 27:  tickets go on sale monday 7/20/98 at 10 am via ticketmaster or the rave box office.  tickets are $21.50 and seating is general admission.  i've never been to the rave, but i'm told it's recently renovated and much nicer on the inside than the building's surroundings (which i consider a good thing).  the rave holds about 2000 sardines, er, people.

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so...when do the tickets go onsale for the chicago shows?  and what is the
# for chicago's ticketmaster (shit, i left it at home!).  i guess i'll be
making a long distence call.  also, anyone know anything about the ohio
shows? (tickets for them, i mean).

thanks!

love,
karen :-)

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please, someone send me the address of the woman who was making the hemp
jewelry.  thanks!

also, i am hoping to give an ig related "something old, something new"
gift to my friend who is getting married in august.  for the old, i am
hoping that someone has a good to excellent recording of the study hall
tape and will be willing to copy it for me.

for the new, i am looking for a good to excellent recent boot in which amy
plays two or more of her new songs.

if you can help me out with any of the above, i would really, really
appreciate it.  thank you!
g.

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in a message dated 98-07-15 09:51:43 edt, ldavidson@asabenefits.com writes:

<< she got up since my friend practically made her get up...if i had only
gotten there a few seconds earlier (before my friend) i would have given
her my seat :-)  >>


no , no , no.  you've got it all wrong---she can have you're seat,  you sit in
her lap!

*ahem*   i couldn't resist

ok, bye
val

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i guess now is as good a time as any..i've always liked tracy chapman,
ya know fast car, gimme one reason..but i never really realized how much
i liked her until i got this cd "the bridge school benefit" and it has
her song "all that you have is your soul" and i was like wow..so any
fans of hers out there that want to tell me their favourite cd by her
etc???

*hugs*

lamia


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new beginnings.......#1 song......the promise
no doubt about it.....
brings tears to my eyes

lamia difranco wrote:
>
> i guess now is as good a time as any..i've always liked tracy chapman,
> ya know fast car, gimme one reason..but i never really realized how much
> i liked her until i got this cd "the bridge school benefit" and it has
> her song "all that you have is your soul" and i was like wow..so any
> fans of hers out there that want to tell me their favourite cd by her
> etc???
>
> *hugs*
>
> lamia
>
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> but i can pretend.
> the sun is gone
> but i have a light..."
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hi y'all

i did a quick check on the ticketmaster website...anyway, here is what i
learned a) so far they only have tickets for the milwaukee show up (not
even for sale yet), no prices, and not much info.  plus, if you do a
search for indigo girls, nothing will come up.  you have to either search
for sufferagette or amy ray or emily salier (yes, it is spelled wrong.).
i am going to keep checking.  i am anal about this and seeing that these
are such small venues, i must get tickets!

:-) karen

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today is my brother's 20th birthday.  i am posting this to the list
because he is taking the summer to drive across the country and canada,
and is currently somewhere between seattle and chicago, and i am hoping
(wishing) against any semblance of logic that he has (or will) come
across at least one of you at some point in his journey.  and, as i
don't have any real way of getting a hold of him to wish him happy
birthday, i figured i'd just go global and hope that the message
somehow catches up to him.  so if you run into a skinny blond kid,
possibly bearded, driving a vw van with california plates, tell him i
say hi and i love him.

thank's y'all,
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in a message dated 7/15/98 8:51:43 am, ldavidson@asabenefits.com wrote:

>>and what does this mean?  did you ask her for a picture and she
>>refused?  was she rude to you guys or >what?  did she just get up and
>>leave or did she keep sitting there?
>
>once she got up, she and her blonde friend stood at the back of our
>section against the railing...i went up to her then to see if i could
>get a picture but she said 'not right now' cause she was watching missy
>elliot...she did not seem too happy to get kicked out of her seat...

okay, nobody else has jumped in on this point, so i guess i will.  i think
what you experienced was amy just trying to enjoy the performance like any
other spectator, and also showing respect for the artist on stage.  say
melissa etheridge happened to be in the audience for an ig show ... it would
be totally disruptive and imho disrespectful for her to start posing for pix
and signing autographs in the midst of an ig set.  afterwards, outside the
performance area, etc. would be a whole 'nother ballgame but not in the middle
of a show.

if amy really wanted a pair of seats, it would be easy for her to do so rather
than jump into an empty space.  i've worked lots of concerts as a publicist
backstage  ... all amy would need to do is talk to her manager or someone on
the facility staff, they'd radio the ticket office and find some unused seats
(there are always extras left over for guest list, vips, etc) and she'd be
escorted in.  she probably just didn't bother ... it's not like she needed
seats for the whole concert.

just my two cents ... i think amy was simply trying to be amy rather than amy
ray of the indigo girls ... i can't blame her for wanting to shut that
celebrity stuff off sometimes.

heidi d.  (who has had the opportunity to speak to amy at soundchecks, but
could not come up with anything worthy enough to say to such a cool person!)

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hey all,
shawn mullins and his band (including julie clark and david patterson) play
the bottom line in nyc this saturday the 18th.  i don't have any time or
price details.  if you know shawn's stuff, i'm sure you'll want to be
there, and if you don't yet know his stuff...you will soon enough(we hope).
he's really worth checking out folks.
i'd call the club if you're interested!
thanks for listening.
email with questions.
cheri

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hello to everyone i have lost contact with since i graduated from school.
i have two requests.
first, i heard a rumor (as i am diligently studying for the bar) that
there is a new list of ig concert dates, is it true, and could someone
send me them?  i do not have internet access as of yet, and i'd love to
see if the ig are coming my way (ohio).
second, does anyone know how i could sign onto the news-only ig list?  if
someone would be so kind as to send me instructions, i would appreciate
it.
well, back to studying.
alycia

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ok, now check this dream out.....

i am at an indigo girls concert in some sort of small theatre, and when
they come out, they introduce a friend of mine (michelle) as their bass
player for that night!  this is odd because 1. i don't think michelle has
ever played a bass, and 2. she had surgery on her wrist and has a cast on
her right hand, which could make playing difficult, but she didn't have the
cast in my dream.  anyway, i make my way to the front of the stage to ask
michelle why she didn't tell me about this before, and she said that she
just wanted to surprise me.

later, during a break in the concert, i go outside for a breath of fresh
air...and who do i see standing on the side of the building smoking a
cigarette (?!?!?!?) but emily...and for some reason, i ask her if she has
an extra (keep in mind that i am probably the most against smoking of
anyone i know), and she gives one to me, lights it up (the
light-it-up-and-hand-it-to-the- recipient one), etc.  i keep the butt to
show all my friends that this is actually emily saliers' cigarette!!!  (i
think they were camel, no filter--why i remember that i do not know)

so that's my dream...come to think of it, the only other ig dream i
remember having also involved michelle, at the time both of us worked at
lady foot locker as management.  michelle was folding t-shirts, and i was
behind the counter.  as she comes back to the counter, amy and emily walk
in, and start looking around.  michelle asks them if they need anything,
the say they're just looking.  she comes back to me, oblivious to the fact
that they're amy & emily.  i whisper to her, "michelle, do you realize that
those are the indigo girls?!?!"  she calmly replies, "well, would you like
to help them then?"  and that's the end of that dream....

dr. freud, work your magic!!!

winona (who is amazed that she actually remembers a dream!)

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 10:20:45 -0500
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i'm planning to go to lilith fair this year in minneapolis, and heard that
the indigo girls are not planning to be at the minneapolis concert.  i and
many of my friends were very much looking forward to seeing them there this
year... why are they skipping out on the concert in minneapolis??

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 13:52:37 +0000
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i have always said that all the music i own is connected some way.

today, i received a birthday present from my nice co-workers...it was "the
dirty boogie" by the brian setzer orchestra (you know, it has the "jump
jive'n'wail" song on it).

on the back, it says "produced by peter collins" who, i believe, was ig's
long-time producer before they went on their own for sots.

okay, so it's not the most interesting observation ever.  but brian setzer and
ig?  that peter is a genre-hopper.

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 18:04:55 -0400
reply-to:     "karen l. frey" <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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this is gonna sound really stupid, but someone, i think tony & leigh ann
sent me a pretty check, and i lost your address to mail the cd...

please come forward,  i wanna mail this cd..i feel so stupid..

love, karen

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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 14:10:52 -0800
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hi guys,

this may be a stupid question, but did amy write the lyrics to wish you
were here?  they sound like i've heard them before, but i can't place
'um.  i'd be really grateful for a response.  thanks!

g

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nope. wish you were here is a song by pink floyd, from the album wish
you were here. probably written by roger waters.

peace,

dan

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>hi guys,
>
>this may be a stupid question, but did amy write the lyrics to wish you
>were here?  they sound like i've heard them before, but i can't place
>'um.  i'd be really grateful for a response.  thanks!
>
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at 02:10 pm 7/15/98 -0800, spyder chick wrote:

>this may be a stupid question, but did amy write the lyrics to wish you
>were here?  they sound like i've heard them before, but i can't place
>'um.

"wish you were here" is by pink floyd.

-kate  :o)
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hi!  my name's mandy and i'm new - nice to meet y'all.  one of my
friends told me that amy has a new girlfriend.  do you know if this is
true, and if so what her name is?

thanks,

mandy

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ok i must jump on the bandwagon!! about 2 weeks ago i had a dream about
amy ray...

for some reason i was in a bar/club type of thing (i'm only 17 so that
wouldn't happen) and amy ray is hitting on this blonde chick (am i
psychic or what?) and for some reason they're eating cake. they call me
over, and the blonde girl and i start talking about how we would eat
that kind of stuff all the time but we would get fat, and we're allready
so fat. (which i'm actually not either) and we go on and on about how
fat we are, and amy is staring at us like we're crazy. then we all go
shopping for vintage clothes together!!

i'd like to know what that symbolizes! *l*

lamia

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hello fellow listees! i was just wondering if anyone else was going to lilith
fair on sunday july 19, at merriwether post pavilion. maybe we can all meet
up. can't wait to see the girls! e-mail me privately and we can work something
out. hope to hear from any concert-goers. bye y'all!

jessie
=)

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hey....i lost your addy,  quick email me so i can get b/f out to you!

love, karen

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i wish.  i'm just hoping someone else booted it!  i need this tape!!

karen : )

rachel rivera wrote:

> hi karen,
>
> just wondering if you have a boot of this show that you'd trade or share?
>
> thanks,
> rachel :)
>
> ----------
> from: karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net>
> to: ig-news@smoe.org
> subject: [ig-news] boalsburg rocked!!!
> date: saturday, july 11, 1998 12:25 am
>
> [sherlyn's ntoe: this is an excerpt of a message which was
> originally sent to the indigo girls mailing list at
> netspace.org.]
>
> [...]
>
> anyhoo..boalsburg was awesome to say the least.  michelle malone was
> awesome.  i didn't write down her set list, she said beneath the devil
> moon stuff and a biscuit song.  she also sang with amy and em...man they
> were rocking tonite!
>
> set list:
> the park song(can't remember the name..you know beautiful girls walk
> right by"
> least complicated
> thin line (i cried puddles all the way through it, its very pertaining
> to my life right now)
> love will come to you
> this train
> get out the map
> joking
> power of two
> raise your hands
> its alright
> gone again (?) new song by amy...rocked!!!
> let it be me
> wild horses (the rolling stones song---amy killed mick jagger, he better
> run for cover)  michelle sang this one too with them
> shed your skin
> galileo
> take a load off (the band...you oldsters remember that song?)  well ig
> killed the band too...jerry mirada even sang a solo part of this...god
> they should do an album of just covers...speaking of albums....they said
> they are working on one now!
> new song by amy :  faye tucker (?)
> scooter  boys (screwed up boys...lol, thats what i used to think they
> were singing)
> ctf with michelle
>
> [...]
>
> love,  karen
>
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date:         wed, 15 jul 1998 20:32:54 edt
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i dont know but she's a blonde :)  woo hoo!!!


troop

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why are the girls skipping the atlanta lilith show?!?!?!


poop poop poop

~robin

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hey again.
i have two primo seats available for a performance of "chicago" at the
shubert theatre in nyc for friday, august 7 at 8pm.  unfortunately my
planned vacation had to be cancelled.  the seats are the front row of the
first balcony or mezzanine(there is a balcony above you, the floor seats
will be below you).  in other words, there is no one in front of you and
you are equivalent to 17 rows from the stage.  these are some of the best
seats in the house.  i am sick that i can't see bebe neuwirth perform.
they are $80 each.   yep, that's what i paid.  i really would like to
redeem all my money here..............
email me if interested.
thanks!
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well today or tonight.  one of the 2.  anyway, the lilith site said "lilith
artists" were supposed to appear on this tonight and then again on the rerun at
3am eastern.  did anyone catch this?  was it a repeat of the del mar stuff?  do
they rerun this program?  my stupid cable won't be on until friday or i'd check
it out myself.  can anyone who caught this let me know whether this appearance
happened and whom it included?

thanks...

marivel

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i cant' find my bra, think it's somewhere in your couch..."

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im not sure if this has been covered yet..

but, i just heard this on the radio, and to save all of you guys having to
post "i missed it!!!!", theres the "lost episode" of ellen on tonight, the one
that abc never aired. the radio guy said its about ellen and laurie discussing
marriage. for those on the east coast, you may have already missed it, but for
everyone else, good luck on catching it!  :)

take care, all of you.

love and sheeeit,
tara.

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ok. . . since y'all are talking about dreams. . . i had a *great* one last
night!
i'll keep this short :)
my sister and i were going to two consecutive ig shows, and we had backstage
passes.  at the first show we search and search but we can't find the girls.
all the while my friend caroline's mom is like, knitting or something, and
she's laughing at us because we're so earnestly searching for amy and emily.
        at the second show, we encounter a barrier-type thing. . . appeared to be
made out of legos.  so, we hop the fence and we're in this room, and
caroline's mom is knitting and laughing, and then emily walks down these
stairs and into the room.  and i'm like. . .you're emily. . . and caroline's
mom laughs some more.  then amy walks into the room, and i give her a great
big hug, and it's a little awkward cause my sister is wanting to hug her too.
. . that's all i remember right now.
         it's weird though, because this dream stuck with me all day, and i sorta
feel like i did meet amy. . . not a bad feeling to have :)

hmmm. . . what does it mean?
emily

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somebody wrote:

> hitting on this blonde chick

perhaps it is just me - i think i'm being overly sensitve, but saying
"chick" when speaking about a woman really grates on me.  i wasn't going
to say a thing, but it has popped up too many times, and each time, it
is has been said by a woman to describe another woman!  i'm obviously
from the old school - to me it is as degrading, demoralizing and
trivializing as referring to a woman as "broad" or some other derogatory
name.

elaine

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anyone know how/when/where about camping in the area?  i would love to get
some info!  anyone know if tix are sold out?

marci

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somebody was me, i admit to writing that word. sorry if it offends you
it offends my sister too. it's like when i get silly with my best friend
and say something like "bitch, back up!" or something. i'm not calling
her a bitch in a derogatory manner cuz if i was she wouldn't be my best
friend! chick to me is some girl/woman/lady/person who is unknown to me.
if i knew who it was i'd say amy ray and sara lee were in a bar. but the
blonde woman in my dream was unidentified hence she became a chick. that
does not mean i think she was a bimbo, or anything like that. it just
means i didn't know who she was. sorry if you take offense to it, but if
i'm not calling you a chick then don't worry about it!

*hugs*
lamia


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> hitting on this blonde chick

perhaps it is just me - i think i'm being overly sensitve, but saying
"chick" when speaking about a woman really grates on me.  i wasn't going
to say a thing, but it has popped up too many times, and each time, it
is has been said by a woman to describe another woman!  i'm obviously
from the old school - to me it is as degrading, demoralizing and
trivializing as referring to a woman as "broad" or some other derogatory
name.

elaine

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hello all!

i can't tell all of you how excited i was to hear that the girls will be
playing 2 shows in chicago.  i was at work when i read it.  i instantly
started getting frantic. i rushed over to pollstar.com and yep, the 2 shows
were listed.  i then called ticketmaster (312-559-1212 for the listee who was
requesting it in an earlier post) to see when i could get the tickets.  they
didn't have a clue....

does anyone out there know when tix go on sale??!!!! i'm in dire need of some
information on the shows.

brian

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howdy all,

marci gluck wrote:
>
> anyone know how/when/where about camping in the area?

i need some clues along these lines too.  i'm driving from mn, it's
gonna be a long one... btw, more than willing to pick up any ig fans
that need rides & have their own camping stuff... :^)

jules
> some info!  anyone know if tix are sold out?
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> marci
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hi this is at the fortunate ones collectables forum:

reverse 1 --&-- shades of indigo   anthony lamont   10:29 pm tuesday
july 7, 1998
i have these 4 sale on cd. mint. make offer. eighties@hotmail.com

what would reverse 1 be worth? what would be a decent offer?? j/w...
actually refresh my mem on what it is??

*hugs*

lamia

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i don't know, but they're getting off lilith right before it hits raleigh,
which is where i'm going. i tried to convince my mom to take me up to virginia
beach, va, but she says it's a waste of maney that we need to use to pay
extensive medical bills.....argh!!!!! why, why, why, why, why, a + e????????
how could you????? *sigh*

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so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
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wow, it's 1:34 and noone has reviewed lilith yet??  i know someone else had to
have been there. well, i guess it's up to me then!
  amy was wearing blue boots (they may have been suede, is anyone familiar
with them, i was kinda far), jeans and a shirt that was sorta striped and
flowered and she looked great.  emily was wearing brown boots, khakis, and a
white rage against the machine t-shirt (i think) and of course looked great as
well!
   they opened up with three hits, which was really exciting, especially since
we had just been talking about it!  get out the map was second.  tried to be
true was third... i was really excited to hear this one live, i love that one!
shed your skin was next, i think they have the backround vocals on some sort
of tape, cause i could hear them, but there were no backups.  then they did
galileo.  then they played a song that was really cool, new.  i think it was
probably called gone again(anyone, is this right?) and ended with this really
cool whistled section.  then water is wide with sarah and tracy bonham was
really good, i love that harmony, and tracy bonham was playing her violin,
really cool!  then they played faye tucker (carla faye tucker, is that the
name?) and segued right into scooter boys, which was really good.  then of
course everyone came out for closer to fine, someone messed up one of the
verses, and one girl who sang was reading from a piece of paper and messed up
a little, but it was still great of course.  and then they were gone and i was
left to go no no, come back, play more, screw natalie and sarah,  i want my
indigo girls!
   they all came out at the end for a song with sarah, i forget what it was,
and amy was playing the guitar and dancing around, oh she was dancing a lot
tonight, i love that.  then, we tried to wait by where we thought they'd come
out and a security guard made us leave and i actually started to cry, and
cried the whole way out of jones beach because i didn't get to see amy up
close and talk to her or anything.  but then in the parking lot, there was a
car playing joking and we stopped in front of it and had then turn it up and
we danced and sang it, and then began the half an hour search for my car ;  )
   sorry this was such a terrible review, hopefully someone else will write
something better, i am too worn out by the thrill of seeing them and then the
disappointment of not getting to see them... anyway, goodnight!
---kate

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 03:57:38 -0500
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someone wrote:

> one of my friends told me that amy has a new girlfriend.  do you know > if this is true, and if so what her name is?
>

and then someone else wrote:

> i dont know but she's a blonde :)  woo hoo!!!


so i'm gonna write:

not to flame..just to point out..  it is not our business what amy ray
does with her personal life.  girlfriends, best friends, dogs, cats,
whatever.... not our business, our problem etc.

consult the faq for more info, but if you feel the need to discuss the
personal("who is her gf?"/ "ar is hot"/ "es is sexy", etc.), it should
be taken to private mail, as the faq states clearly that disucssion of
a's and e's personal lives is forbidden, and well, this is pretty
personal.

use of the word "chick" is not nearly as offensive as someone wanting
the particulars on one of the girls' personal lives.

just my $452.00 worth...feel free to delete.

karrie


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hey folks,

just a reminder on the rare discs, because people still regularly write
me upset about not getting the product they thought. it has become
normal for people to burn rare discs onto the gold cd-recordable discs
on their home computer. these discs are great if you want a lost cost
(and they really should be 20 or less! because they cost about $1.00 to
buy a blank) alternative to the hard to fine, more expensive official
releases, but keep in mind that cd-r's often do not play in car stereos
or low end players. they also do not have the protective coating that
the standard silver issue discs do and therefore are very easily
damaged. so it's just an awareness situation..if you don't mind the
cd-r's..then that's great..just make sure you are paying the proper
amount for a disc that the seller can churn out as many of them as they
want at any time and don't expect the same artwork/cover as the
originals. if you want the originals for sound/collectibleness, then
make sure you aren't buying the gold discs because getting your money
back can be tough. the easiest way to tell if it's a cd-r or regular
disc is the color...cd-r's are gold and regular discs are silver (the
one exception someone mentioned before was the gold remaster disc of the
self titled album..that was an official gold release by epic). feel free
to write with any questions.
we are fortunate ones,
joe
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morning all!

one more day till lilith!  alison, are you as excited as i am?  we got
awesome seats and man, i can't wait.

jilly, mike found climax pa, its in western pa.  don't forget to email
me the original today...

well, gotta run.  need to get ready for work.  i'm in my final days now,
my replacements is a quick learner, but its quarter end and it ain't
over till its over.  i'm turning him into a ig fan...you know the 6 cd
rotation thing is on most of the time.

all you people who sent me tapes, i am a bit overwhelmed right now,
trying to get things out quickly.  be patient, okay?  i think i have 30+
copies to make now..i'll get them all out, i promise.

love,  karen

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i had two "you know you're obsessed with the indigo girls when..." moments
yesterday...

1.  we got an office supply delivery at my job, and for some reason on the
inside, on all four sides, someone had written "1-2-3" *grins*

2.  i was watching my soap (i tape it every day - shut up) and one of the
characters said something about "harboring a fugitive" and i about died :)

only me.
--audra
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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

                                *****

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just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 18:00:48 +0900
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hey y'all,

sorry again for the nigc.

apparently my server had problems this morning and a few of my incoming
messages were returned to the senders. a couple of others have just
vanished into cyberspace. so, if you replied to my offer and your message
was returned, please re-send it. and if your message wasn't returned and
you don't hear from me within the next 24 hours, write again. yours was one
that probably got lost somewhere.

thanks,
susan
scorpio7@sagami.or.jp

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last year, the lf tour left from charlotte, nc (great show!) and went onto
atlanta for the next night/show. (i got caught in all the tractor-trailer
traffic making it's way onto i-85 - they went south, i went north.) the igs
performed in charlotte, but weren't on the list for the atl performers. my
guess, for what it's worth, is the igs probably went on with everyone
else to atlanta, but took a day or two off. i think the re-joined the
tour later.

nancy humphries
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they played the flip concerts from last yr.  besides,
we can still see them at that suff sess things.


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---andrew sobiech  wrote:
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> i'm planning to go to lilith fair this year in
minneapolis, and heard that
> the indigo girls are not planning to be at the
minneapolis concert.  i and
> many of my friends were very much looking forward
to seeing them there this
> year... why are they skipping out on the concert in
minneapolis??
>

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at 03:57 am 7/16/98 -0500, karrie wrote:

>not to flame..just to point out..  it is not our business what amy ray
>does with her personal life.

thank you, karrie.  well said!

just to reiterate, we're not asking you not to discuss amy's and emily's
private lives for fun.  we're asking because they've explicitly asked us
not to discuss their private lives.  if we all respect them both as much as
we claim, that respect should extend to adhering to their personal wishes.
it creeps them out to think that we're all here talking about who amy's new
girlfriend is, etc., etc., so let's please show them that we respect them
enough to prove them wrong and to not talk about things that are
absolutely, positively, 100% none of our business.

sorry about the lecture, but this crops up every now and again and it kind
of pisses me off that it happens continuously.  how many different ways can
people be told that amy and emily have expressly asked this very list not
to talk about their private lives?

i dunno -- this isn't a flame, i'm just tired of this topic.  if you don't
like the way i said it, flame away.  i don't care...

-kate  :o(

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 11:22:33 edt
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  how many different ways can
>people be told that amy and emily have expressly asked this very list
not
>to talk about their private lives?
i know!!  sherlyn could put it in the list signature (well...i  suppose
thats sherlyn that does the signature)

carol
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lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com <mailto:saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
> wrote:

>if i knew who it was i'd say amy ray and sara lee were in a bar. but
the blonde woman in my dream was >unidentified hence she became a chick.
that does not mean i think she was a bimbo, or anything like that. >it
just means i didn't know who she was. sorry if you take offense to it,
but if i'm not calling you a chick then >don't worry about it!
>*hugs*
>lamia

i am going to have to agree with lamia on this one.  i also use the word
"chick" all the time in my regular vocabulary and don't see anything
wrong with it.  maybe once in a while people use it in a derogatory way,
but you can usually tell by context or tone of voice whether or not it
is actually meant that way.  i know whenever i have read it here, it is
very obvious that no one means it in a derogatory way.
i also sometimes use it cause i can't think of another word to use...for
instance if someone is in her early twenties, you can't really say 'that
lady' or 'that woman' because you think of someone older...also, you
can't really say 'that girl' cause you think of someone younger...chick
just seems to work out perfect :-)  for me at least :-)
i am sorry that some people get offended by it...and if you can come up
with a better word then maybe i will switch.

oh wait, what's one of the ways to say girl in spanish....??  chica???

that's just my buck and a half...flame if you must :-)

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please please please please do not get started on this again people!
i for one do not want to get caught in the middle of another big
argument about what is ok to talk about and what is not.
i don't think there's anything wrong with talking about amy's new g/f.
she's been sad (look at the words to gone again!) and now she's happy
and that's a good thing, we all care about them, and want them to be
happy. i don't think it's a big crisis if we talk about the reason amy
is happy.

*hugs*

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dear ones-

i hear a huge din of applause for karrie! well said, and thanks for saying
it....we have no business speculating on the private lives of these two
women who already give us sooooooo much of themselves! i too, wonder about
many things about their lives, but i would never consider actually invading
their privacy! and as kate (i think it was kate) pointed out, this very list
has been asked to keep that sort of thing under control. my understanding is
that a & e are a little unsettled about the existence of this list for this
exact reason. let's not take advantage of them or this forum that we all
enjoy being a part of!

and kate, as for having to go over this issue every so often, i fear that
will be a constant. the person who brought up the question, stated that she
was new to the list. and since there is an ongoing influx of new people, i
imagine this will continue.  we'll just have to remain watchdogs for "our"
girls and their rights to privacy!

folks, we must respect the girls! we wouldn't want them to quit touring and
sharing themselves because they need to get out of the public eye to
maintain a sense of self and privacy!

i will now step down from the soapbox and slip back into obscurity......

peace y'all,  laura

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>>i also use the word "chick" all the time in my regular vocabulary
>>and don't see anything wrong with it.
~~hayles, yeah.  i'm with lamia and leigh ann on this one.  maybe it
makes me a sexist pigette, but "chick" is a regular part of my
vocabulary as well.  i'm a woman/girl/chick/honey (ha!), and i'm not
offended when i hear another woman refer to females as such.

>>maybe once in a while people use it in a derogatory way, but you can
>>usually tell by context or tone of voice whether or not it is
>>actually meant that way.
~~exactly.  and going along with that, i think we're all intelligent
enough to judge these posts at face value.  it's generally not that
difficult to get a feel for a the mood/tone of any particular message.
i've often had a new one ripped over the silliest little things...
hmmph.

>>i know whenever i have read it here, it is very obvious that no one
>>means it in a derogatory way.
~~exactly.  and i don't recall lamia ever having been derogatory before.
her intentions were clearly not to offend anyone.  like she said
though...ya' can't please everyone.

>>i also sometimes use it cause i can't think of another word to
>>use...
~~heh heh..i do that too frequently, but usually it's with f**k or
something.  heh heh...we should be glad she's sayin' "chick." :)

>>i am sorry that some people get offended by it...and if you can come
>>up with a better word then maybe i will switch.
~~ba dum bum.  let me know what it is too...i personally just like the
way it sounds...chick.  say it with me now...heh heh.

my scrawny little opinion,
bethany :)

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i'm going to have to jump in and agree here. i think there's plenty to talk
about without gossiping about whether or not anyone is dating that
mysterious blonde woman. i know we've been through this before, and the
consensus is that it's off limits...so...we should probably abide by that.
not a flame...
peace,
    sharoane

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i think that this "chick" debate shows some of the age differences on this
list. i am not being agist...or trying to bash on you younger listees, but
for those of us a bit older certain words carry negative meanings.  i know
it's in for the younger crowd to say things like chick, and i've heard
plenty of enlightened women use the term "bitch slap" (it makes me cringe
every time) but for me and i'm sure many other listees, i can't help but
remember when these terms were used against us...oh well.
peace,
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okay, most of y'all know anyway
so lemme confirm..
yep, it's me!
now everybody knows....
fyi, i'm having a great time!
wish you were here!

xoxo, blonde chickadee

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so, i'm jumpin' on the bandwagon.  if any info. on newport
camping/lodging comes up, *please* e-mail me privately and let me
know...i have a sudden urge to pitch a tent and whip out the bug
repellent. :)  ooooh! campin'.  fun.  i think it'd be groovy to have a
little list campin' party or somethin'...'sides, we need to get jilly
certo out there in the wilderness...she was born to be an outdoorswoman.
;)
a'giht...on to the next issue. :) climax, pa.  any of y'all ever heard
of it?  if so, i could use yer help.  we're on a manhunt...jill, carol,
and myself.  the little bastard who bashed in my car is nowhere to be
found...heh heh...in addition to the bethlehem musikfest, we'll be doing
a little detective work.  bring it on, baby.
in addition to this post, i feel the need to open my trap about this
privacy thing.  something that i have noticed about this list is that
there are *far* too many messages posted that shouldn't be.  i think
it'd be a lot easier if those who have complaints would send them to the
individual. there's no need for public embarassment...that poor girl
(who stated that she was new and probably had no idea that this type of
thing is discouraged...yeah yeah yeah, the faq..i know, but...*i* didn't
read it when i first joined either) probably feels like hell now that
she started this big pile of crap.  sending a message to the big list,
saying "we don't talk about the private lives of the girls here" is sure
to start a big discussion...so, take it to the person first...wouldn't
that have been just as effective?!  there ya' go...she'll know, and she
won't do it again, right?!  that seems more sensible to me.  cuz, ya'
know...due to these couple of posts, *now* we're gonna havta hear
everyone's opinion about privacy invasion.  that's not what we're here
for.  it seems kind of contradictory to me to be sitting here reading
all of this junk about privacy invasion, when in essence, it's makin'
the situation worse by taking the focus even further away from the
music. blah blah blah.

just me, stating the painfully obvious
bethany :)

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at 08:49 am 7/16/98 pdt, lamia difranco wrote:

>i don't think there's anything wrong with talking about amy's new g/f.
>she's been sad (look at the words to gone again!) and now she's happy
>and that's a good thing, we all care about them, and want them to be
>happy. i don't think it's a big crisis if we talk about the reason amy
>is happy.

sorry but -- no.  that's not cool.  that's amy's business and only amy's
business.  and amy herself has asked this list to not talk about her
personal life.  whom she is or is not dating most definately and
unquestionably falls into the realm of amy's personal life, hence none of
our damned business.  let's talk about the women as songwriters or the
women as activists.  let's publish our lilith, etc. reviews and setlists.
there's plenty to talk about without violating their right to privacy -- a
right that they've specifically asked us to protect.

-kate  :o\

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---carol ann <chickenwomyn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> i know!!  sherlyn could put it in the list signature

it's a thought, however, has anyone looked at the list signature
lately?  it's getting rather long.  i think it would be more to the
point if people would actually *read* and *obey* the faq.

anna
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marci, jules & anyone else interested...

there are no campgrounds in newport itself.  nearest one is melville
ponds up in portsmouth (about 1/2 hour? north).  that's where we are
staying.  $15/night.  we made our reservations about 2 months ago and
they only had overflow (read: dirt, no amenities) spaces left.  don't
have the number on me at the moment but if you're interested, email me
privately & i'll get it to you.  other than that campground, there are
plenty further north & further into ri.  but they are at least an hour
away.  we're checking to see if there is any public transportation down
into newport for the festival, but have learned nothing so far.

hope this helps!

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well, now you've proven that you're a much better human being than i.
my feelings on this is that is the price of fame. it happens to
everyone, including them. they knew what would happen when they started
performing. it's sad that to make music you have to pay that price, but
that's just reality. in my opinion it is better for us, the fans, to
discuss their lives in a respectful way than it is for people who don't
know anything about them to. if we, the fans that do know what's going
on, can give people correct information (as far as we know she's dating
a blonde woman. that's all anyone knows.) then we can stop people who
don't know the facts from coming up with some big obsurd story.
i have not seen anyone discussing their lives at length. that's probably
because you learn very fast that even the most innocent of remarks will
get you flamed. i believe that even if people didn't flame us, we would
not talk about their lives constantly, disrespectfully, in great detail.
i don't believe anyone wants to violate amy and emily's wishes. no one
here wants to slander them in any way. no one here wants to disrespect
them. we are just curious about the people behind the songs. i don't
think discussing amy's g/f on such a small scale is hurting anyone,
except the people who get bitched out for doing it.
i don't think anyone can say that they've never wondered something about
amy and emily personally. i think if they do they're lying. music is not
about just the music. it can't be. if it was just about music than we
wouldn't care about the spice girls, or the fact that milli vanilli
didn't write or sing their own songs way back when.
i've been flamed for this before, and obviously it's not going to stop
because i am never going to change my mind on this.

amy and emily are adults, and by no means stupid. they have got to
realize that we, the people on this list, are not the only fans that
will discuss their personal lives. it makes them uncomfortable thinking
we sit around all the time and talk about their lives. which we don't.
every now and then does not hurt anyone, except the people ya'll flame.
we just want to say a couple things! no one is condoning gossip, or
speculations. all we want to know about is the woman amy has been seen
with. no one is perfect, and the girls know this. we are not
disrespecting them in what we are saying. just to the extent that they
say that our discussing their personal lives makes them uncomfortable.
and anyhow, if we were going to inforce this, we would have to stop
people who talked about seeing amy at the village stage at that one
lilith, because in the faq it also says that amy didn't like it when
people talk about where they saw (or speculated seeing her) the night
before or whatever.

if you want to blantantly flame me please put flame in the subject line.
that way you get the satisfaction of telling me off, and i get the
satisfaction of not having to read it.


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>i was chatting at the "get together" chat room.  we were discussing kid
fears.  there were a couple of folks there w/ different takes on what
amy meant by "how much further you can spin, how much further if you are
smooth."...i thought the smooth stone line was a metaphor for people.
my take was that smooth = trying to fit in...abused children always try
to fit in...possibly about trying to fit in being gay.

i've been rolling this over my mind for the past few
days..."smooth"...pure, good...moving through your life like an airplane
through clouds (or a stone through the water)...it could be trying to
fit in (cutting parts off until you are smooth, fitting in) but it could
also be letting go of the mental armor, the collections of pain and
rough edges that we wrap around ourselves, saying its the only way to
survive...(i'm reading this book, "how, then, shall we live" which is
all about living and dying and the priorities we make and how easy it is
when you've been hurt to cling to that pain, to make it the focal point
of your existence...to keep yourself un-smooth")or how much easier it is
(or could seem) for someone to go through their life without battling,
at a young age, all those things that can make you un-smooth.

back to my left-brain,
shelley

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 10:18:53 pdt
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hey y'all--
  i was just wondering if someone could send me the list of names of the
dubbers for the soy boot tree......
oh!!  yesterday i was at lexmark, a printing company, and they have
these nifty *indigo* computers..top of the line :).
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ok, i'm just delurking to add my 2 cents...

1) amen to everyone who wants to protect amy and emily's privacy... a
long time ago, i posted, telling about my nasty internet experience
where someone posted my personal info and gave me nightmares(email me
privately and i'll tell you about it).  aside from honoring their wishes
and their rights (which should be important to all of us, if we do truly
care about them), it also takes away from the purpose of the list, which
(correct me if i'm wrong) was originally to share concert and boot
information, as well as to connect  with other ig fans, which are an
awesome group.  i'm not an old-timer, but i have been on the list off
and on for about a year and a half, and this discussion comes up about
once every 3 months. i love the discussions, but we know where the
limits are. emily and amy are adults, and they know the price of fame,
but that does not give us an excuse to give into the urge to gossip.

2)as with every phrase and term... shouldn't we wait and see who is
using a word, and the context in which they are using it?  i know that,
depending on the person using it, any phrase can be derogatory, or
funny.  whenever i hear about this, i can't help but remember the time a
guy asked me out and i said no (i'm straight, but he was a creep), and
he called me a dyke... so i still laugh.

i'll step down off my soapbox now, sorry for the waste of bandwidth.
i'll go back into lurkdom...

jo anne

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i have been her kind"
anne sexton

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dear lamia & list:

although i didnt make it thru your entire post, i agree with where it was
going.

things i have a problem with
1)      knowing where a&e live (& trying to drop by)
2)      telling everyone specific aspects of their personal lives

things i dont have a problem with
1)      knowing partners
2)      content of statements, speeches.
3)      showing up at other musicians shows (inc performing etc)

hey, if they were straight, it wouldnt be a big deal to know their sig
others.  why are we obsessing?  could it be because some people go "over
the line" and it's better to over-restrict than differentiate good vs. bad
behavior?

i'm more uncomfortable with some of the dream sequences shared with the
list than knowing who a&e go out with.

my .02 worth (or has it dropped to .01?),

melissa

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> from: lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
> to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject: re: the whole privacy issue
> date: thursday, july 16, 1998 10:09 am
>
> well, now you've proven that you're a much better human being than i.
> my feelings on this is that is the price of fame. it happens to
> everyone, including them. they knew what would happen when they started
> performing. it's sad that to make music you have to pay that price, but
> that's just reality. in my opinion it is better for us, the fans, to
> discuss their lives in a respectful way than it is for people who don't
> know anything about them to.

etc etc

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at 10:09 am 7/16/98 pdt, lamia difranco wrote:

>well, now you've proven that you're a much better human being than i.
--and--
>if you want to blantantly flame me please put flame in the subject line.
>that way you get the satisfaction of telling me off, and i get the
>satisfaction of not having to read it.

first of all, to whom are you referring?  me?  there's no way for me to
tell, as you didn't address me.  i can only assume you mean me.  if so, i
wasn't flaming you, i was informing you of amy's and emily's express wishes
as to what they feel comfortable with and what they do not.  we claim to be
such great fans of theirs and we claim to respect them so much -- yet your
thinking on the matter is:

>my feelings on this is that is the price of fame.

i don't think that's cool.  they have asked us specifically -- you, me and
everyone on this list -- to respect their privacy.  they expect the random
fan to speculate on unsubstantiated rumours as to their private lives.  do
we want to prove ourselves different or do we want to be just as
disrespectful?

i'm not a liar when i say that, quite frankly, i couldn't give a rip whom
amy and emily are dating.  why should i care?  that's none of my business.
what is my business is what has been made my business by them -- their
music, their activism, the hour or so they give me on the stage or during
the interview.  why should i demand any more from them after they've given
so much of themselves already?  think of how you would feel if you knew a
bunch of strangers were gossiping about a woman you were walking around
with one day.  in my mind, that's totally uncool.

and what makes it doubly uncool is that a)amy & emily have expressly asked
this list to not discuss their private lives, and b)it is expressly written
in the faq not to discuss their private lives.  how much more convincing do
you need, really?  if amy walked up to you right now and said, "lamia,
would you do me a favor and not talk about whom i may or may not be
dating," would you turn to her and say, "hey am, get over it.  that's the
price of fame -- i'll talk about whatever i want"?  i doubt it.  and that,
in effect, is what she's done.

i know for a fact that that everyone on this list respects them as women
and as artists, so how can anyone defend a practice that is so
disrespectful and that so blatantly goes against what they have asked of
us?    i hope they don't read this list -- i hope sulli (who once was
subbed) doesn't tell them that their personal business is brought up time
and time again.

-kate, who is again not flaming anyone, just stating what appears to be a
rather (surprisingly) unpopular opinion...

p.s.  btw, talking about amy sitting in people's seats at lilith is not
what amy was talking about when she worried that we would all be discussing
seeing her walking around.  she was talking about the fear that we would
comment on how we ran into her at the grocery store or something, which
would lead to people camping out at said grocery store to get a glimpse of
her shopping.  big difference...


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as what might be considered one of the list's younger members (i am 23) i would
have to say i can definitely see both sides to this issue.  i wouldnt presume
to recommend using or not using these types of words, but i will say that for
those of us who choose to use them, there could be many different reasons.
many of which might be to reclaim the word, even though it may have been used
against us in the past.  other reasons may just be because we're "used" to
hearing it.  on the flip side, for those of us who choose not to use these
words, it may seem scary that the "younger" generations are starting to again,
seemingly backlashing, maybe?  i think it's important to remember that
although we may be younger, we have not necessarily forgotten the fight of
women before our time...maybe we are, in fact, reclaiming a word and thus
taking away the negativity associated with it.  ????  whatcha think?

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after a good bit of net surfing, i found the boathouse's website.
here's the info:

tickets: $20 in advance
on sale: july 25

unfortunately, tickets are being sold through ticketma$ter...


anna


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>
> i think that this "chick" debate shows some of the age differences on
>this list. i am not being agist...or trying to bash on you younger
>listees, but for those of us a bit older certain words carry negative >meanings.  i know. . .  i can't help but remember when these terms were
>used against us...
------------------------
yeah, absolutely - thanks for stating this so succinctly.  i'm really
delighted that younger women/women in general feel confident and secure
enough to use this once negative term to have incorporated it as a word
with a positive meaning in their own vocabulary - where it now has an
empowering connotation.  it's amazing the changes and strides that have
been made, even in the last 20 years (i'm not that old but i do remember
that at one time it wasn't so great).  still isn't that great - i won't
go off on a feminist litany - that certainly doesn't belong here, but
the inequities that exist are still too real.

elaine - i'll be quiet now - maybe

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subject:      mpls suff. sessions
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here's a few details on the mpls date friday august 28  at first ave.
it will be a 21+ show, which sucks for some you i know, doors are at =
6pm, tickets are 18 in advance and 21 at the door
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soon as i know.
~casey

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>
>>>and what makes it doubly uncool is that a)amy & emily have expressly asked
>>>this list to not discuss their private lives, and b)it is expressly written
>>>in the faq not to discuss their private lives.  how much more convincing do
>>>you need, really?  <snip>
>
>
>right on kate!
>
>i can't believe this subject is coming up again! well, actually i can believe
>it, i just regret that it
>continues to raise it's ugly head.
>
>i have been on this list for about 3 years and the privacy issue keeps coming
>up. it seems so damned simple
>to me. i love the music of amy ray and emily saliers. i respect what they do,
>both artistically and in a socio/political sense.
>it has been expressed (repeatedly) that they are uncomfortable with the
>existence of this list in the first place. additionally,
>it has been reported that ig has specifically requested that their private
>lives not be discussed.
>
>it's a matter of respect. either you truly appreciate what emily saliers and
>amy ray contribute to our lives, and you care for and respect what emily
>saliers and amy ray as artists and activist. if so, in order to maintain that
>respect, care and be an ethical person you must choose to not participate in
>speculation about their personal lives.
>
>or
>
>you are more interested in satisfying your own idle curiosity than affording
>ig the privacy they have requested and the respect they have earned.
>
>it seems such a simple choice.
>
>peace,
>
>dan "asbestos" perkins
>austin, texas

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hey all,
i did a ticketmaster search and the portland date is up, but i couldn't find what day tickets went on sale.

also, is anyone going to the me or vt stops on the suffragette tour?  if you are will you *please* get in touch with me?(java@myneo.com or jsolis@oregon.uoregon.edu)  thanks.  there's still room in the car if anyone wants to roadtrip.

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folks, can we please take the "privacy" issue to private e-mail at this point?
we're talking in circles.
thanks,
kathy

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does anyone know if the sept 3 date been confirmed yet, or have any info on
it? it's listed on pollstar, but i called roseland and the woman seemed to
know what i was talking about, but she said she had no confirmation of it...

erica

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okay,  i'm not advocation gossiping about their private lives but...

> sorry but -- no.  that's not cool.  that's amy's business and only amy's
> business.  and amy herself has asked this list to not talk about her
> personal life.

what does this refer to?  in the time i've been on this list, amy has
never posted a message, never had a representative post a message and
i've never seen a message saying "amy told me this and asked me to pass
it on to the list as a request."    that is how you communicate with a
list, and i don't see how you can say she ever asked this list to do
anything.

i did read an article (i think it's in the faq) where they both discussed
the internet.  i don't even know if this list was in existence at the time
of that article, and from what i remember reading they could just as
easily have been referring to the newsgroup or a chat room or anything.
it was old and a lot has changed since then, including amy's relationship.
there was a time when people argued very vocally that even mentioning that
a&e were gay was a violation of their personal life and not appropriate
for the list, and i don't know that they would have ever supported that,
and i don't know whether amy cares now that some people ask about her new
girlfriend, because i've never heard her say so.

so that's my question - if "amy herself asked this list..." - when, and
what exactly did she say?

and if she didn't, how about we all be a little less eager to discipline
other people.  there is a certain level of basic human curiousity that
is not harmful and comes with the territory of being a celebrity.
and it's not like most of us know anything anyway...

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at 11:28 am 7/16/98 -0700, a. taub wrote:

>what does this refer to?  in the time i've been on this list, amy has
>never posted a message, never had a representative post a message and
>i've never seen a message saying "amy told me this and asked me to pass
>it on to the list as a request."    that is how you communicate with a
>list, and i don't see how you can say she ever asked this list to do
>anything.

i can't believe i have to do this:

"2.2. do amy and emily know about the list, and how do
they feel about it?

amy and emily do know about the mailing list; indications are that
they have mixed feelings about it.  when asked in a 1994 interview
how she felt about the list amy said, 'well, there are positive parts
about that.  a lot of that internet stuff has helped a lot of
musicians that i know as far as publishing tour schedules.  the only
negative ramification i see is when people start talking about your
personal life... i appreciate the support it gives us, but... well,
it is not necessary to try and guess where somebody lives.  or guess
where you saw somebody the other night... but the support of the
music itself, i think that is a brilliant idea.  to support musicians
through the whole computer system i think is great.'"

she was talking about the list, specifically.  read it carefully.

now i'm getting pissed.  i've been flamed and yelled at and harassed for
defending what it says in the faq.  read the faq if you want the answers,
don't flame me for defending it.  god, grow up already.

seeing as how, as you can see above, amy was specifically expressing
discomfort with us, here on this list discussing her private life, and
everyone but a handful of people thinks this feeling of amy's is not worth
the breath out of her mouth, i don't think i want my name associated with
such a list anymore.

-kate


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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 11:49:53 -0700
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ok, i usually don't contribute to threads like this, but i can't resist
this time...
if amy and emily have specificially asked this list to refrain from
discussing their personal lives, then why are we debating about it?  that
should be it, period.  we don't have the right to decide what subjects
concerning their private lives are ok to talk about and what aren't.  if
amy and emily say it's stepping too far, then it *is* stepping too far.  it
should not be up for debate.  yep, we're all curious, but the internet is
frightfully powerful in spreading information, (be it true or untrue) very
quickly and very far.   talking about a&e to your buddy or to someone on
*private* email is a lot different than publicly discussing it on the
internet, and i think that's what wiggs amy and emily out, and i don't
blame them.  and, where do we get off assuming that the blonde woman is
amy's girlfriend?  can amy go somewhere with a woman without the world (and
in this internet situation, i do mean *world*) making bold assumptions and
starting rumors?   i guess not.
i'm really not trying to flame anyone or put new folks on the spot, i just
can't keep my mouth shut this time...
leslie


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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 11:43:55 pdt
reply-to:     sarah emily <emily_2@hotmail.com>
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ok in a desperate attempt to change the subject i'm going to ask a music
related question.
let's discuss a randomly chosen song: "world falls".  what exactly is
the image of a coyote supposed to mean?
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> hey, if they were straight, it wouldnt be a big deal to know their sig
> others.

au contrare....i do not think it is right to sit around and gossip about
anyone's personal lives.  i don't care about bruce and demi, or brad and
gyneth.  i have enough shit in my own personal life to deal with without
being informed about the lives of others.  to me, to be so damn nosey
makes us akin to those *wonderful* individuals who work for the national
inquirer and the star...you know, they types who chase people through
the streets of france on motorcycles.  if it wasn't for gossipy, nosey
people who feel it is ok to invade the privacy of celebrities to satisfy
their own curiousity, the creatures of the gossip columns and paparazzi
would not even exist.

lamia, it is not your business period, who amy or emily or brad pitt or
the queen of sheba, or anyone else for that matter, dates.  end of
story.  amy and emily owe us nothing except music and that is that.  and
any fan who truly *cares* about amy and emily would go out of their way
to make sure that no one gossips about them publicly, not say "well,
they are famous and that is the price they pay."  when you appreciate
someone and respect them, you give of yourself to those people instead
of being so damn self-serving.

sorry, i don't buy it.  it's not about you...it's about them.


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hi everyone
sorry i think i mixed up welcome me and world falls in my last post.  we
can discuss both/either/neither.
sarah

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i love the song "welcome me."  ever since the first time i heard it,
i've had a special place for it in my heart.  i think that it's one of
the most well written i.g. songs to date.  i love the way the music and
lyrics are intertwined.
didja ever notice that emily's guitar mimics amy's voice through most of
the song??? "welcome me....." (doo doo doo) "to your city of angels..."
(doo doo doo, doo doo doo doo..) heh heh...yeah. that's my sung guitar
interpretation. :)  it's really interesting if you listen to it.
i love it.  there's a lot of passion in that song, i think.  in her
voice, in the strength of the images.  i can't say enough about it...
i'd love to know exactly what she was writing about... i should really
take another listen though, and try givin' *my* take on the lyrics. :)

lataaaah indigators,
bethany :)

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judge judy rocks!
when i grow up i wanna be her
she kicks ass
we gotta raise all our grrls to be
strong and assertive like judge judy
she's a wonnerful role model

i gotta go
im gonna enroll in law school
luv, bar

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where is the coyote reference in "world falls"?  if there is one, my guess is
that it's related to the symbolism of that animal in native american culture.

definately wf is one of my favorites.  like "3 hits" -- it's one of those
dance-around-the-bedroom-&-pretend-i'm-a-rock-star songs.  :)  i'm good at
pretending i'm a star!  :p

peace,
lisa j.
who's in laws will be here any minute for a visit aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!  :)

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> we have not necessarily forgotten the fight of
> women before our time...maybe we are, in fact, reclaiming a word and
> thus taking away the negativity associated with it.

for a bit of a discussion on this (yes it's fiction, but some good
points), check out that movie that ig were in: boys on the side. there's
a scene in it about words that some people don't like and reclaiming
them (whoopie and mary louise parker). personally, the word they discuss
kind of bugs me, but every so often, i'll dance around and sing the
word... okay, i'm kooky, what can i say? (btw, i say chick because i
don't like the words lady and girl, so chick just kind of comes out of
my mouth)

and about these flame wars... okay we may say we're not flaming, but
it's feeling a little tense in here. can we discuss these in private
email if we are just making remarks to the author? if you have a problem
with someone's content, mail them... just my personal feelings on the
matter. if you'd like to discuss this request with me, please reply to
me. thanks, folks! :)

peace and good intentions,
amy

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 14:25:36 -0500
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hi all,

if you really want to know how a&e feel about the list and discussion of
their private lives check out the article on lifeblood

http://home.earthlink.net/~underdog/lifeblood/articles/9404a.html

if you can't get web access, e-mail me and i will send you a copy.

peace,

dan perkins
austin, texas

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 15:35:31 -0400
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i called ticketmaster this morning (long distence).  i was on hold for
about 15 minutes.  anyway, the ticketmaster woman had no clue what i was
ralking about.  she tried "suffragette tour" and "amy ray" and various
spellings of "emily saliers".  but anyway, she told me to call the riv.
so i guess we should just call the venue.  that probably goes for all of
the shows.  has anyone tried calling bogart's or agora (is that what the
cleveland venue is called?)?  all right, when anyone hears anything,
please post it to the list!

thanks!

:-) karen

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for those without web access, here is the pertinent stuff from the
article posted on the lifeblood web site. this is from an interview with
emily and amy from april of 1994 in the paper from the university of new
hampshire:

what do you think of the fact that there is an indigo girls mailing list
on the internet, on the computer. they talk a lot about your music and
live performances, and i
was wondering about how that makes you feel.

ar: well, there are positive parts about that. a lot of that internet
stuff has helped a lot of musicians that i know as far as publishing
tour schedules. the only
negative ramification i see is when people start talking about your
personal life. where they last saw you...

they try to steer away from that.

ar: ...well, i know they don't. i have seen a lot of print-outs.
(laughter) so i can tell you that they definitely don't steer away from
it.

es: is that the stuff we used to read on the bus? horrible stuff...

ar: yea, there are certain people that don't steer away from it. and
they infiltrate the whole system. and then there are people who are
responsible. and it is hard
to keep the whole system responsible because people will be people, so i
think you have to take the good with the bad. the bad with the good.
(laughter) you
know? i appreciate the support it gives us, but...

there is a fine line that can't be crossed?

ar: ...well, it is not necessary to try and guess where somebody lives.
or guess where you saw somebody the other night. it's just like, get a
life. but the support of
the music itself, i think that is a brilliant idea. to support musicians
through the whole computer system i think is great. and it works. it has
helped a lot of my
friends.


i think that should about clear up this debate.

peace,

dan perkins
austin, texas

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for four years that song had been my only safety  net to the fact i was
living where i did not want to be. i was in phoenix. so listening to it
about always green and never snows and putting up reindeers etc...the
soulful music and the words ...well even tho it tends to bring me down
it at the same time lifts me a bit to know that someone else is looking
for a different path to get to where they think they want to be. of
course it turns out now 2 years later it was a mistake in part about 60%
but it was an important move.

sparkie......

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 16:16:55 edt
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i remember someone had posted some info about free concerts in nyc and one was
dar williams.  if anybody still has that or has the info on it, please email
me privately with it.  thanks! : )
--kate

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<< everyone but a handful of people thinks this feeling of amy's is not worth
the breath out of her mouth, i don't think i want my name associated with
such a list anymore. >>

i have been on this list for quite some time and finally i feel complete
kinship with someone....(go kate)   i agree with her entirely--
if you can't read the faq then u shouldn't be on the list!
i am so tired of this issue and in turn sickened by the fact that almost
eveyone on this list had to add their 2 cents to flame this woman...(as u can
c i am confused and angered...rarrrrrr).  if u need to bitch, vent
elsewhere... i know i'm venting but whatever!  see what it feels like??  maybe
start an ig bitch list...hmmmm thats an idea....  i feel one flame would have
been more than sufficent.  i mean come on, shes new.... instead i spent 15
minutes deleteing messages that all contain the same freakin' message !!!!!!

there are better things to do and more important things to talk about...
sincerely pissed,
m

p.s. now i know where all my old friends have gone...to another list
later...back into the cave i go!

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 13:21:07 pdt
reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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for those of you who thought my email was accusing you of flaming *hugs*
i wasn't. those of you who stated your feelings to me were perfectly
justified in doing so. attacking my person however is wrong and i will
not name names, but this was sent to me:

...why do you care who amy is dating?  seriously, i
can't understand such a fascination myself.  you're wrong. don't tar
everyone on the list with your brush. i'm sure amy would think you were
a weirdo for wanting to know something so personal..and i'm sure it
would worry her too. i'm sure you'll keep on posting personal stuff no
matter what i say...

ok i understand that some people are pissed off, very pissed off, but
what the f***?? i'm sure amy would think you are a weirdo??
unbelievable..it's not people like me who give indigo girls fans a bad
name. i don't think we need to resort to petty name calling. the people
who sent me nice emails had a lot more effect than, you're wrong you're
a weirdo.

lamia

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 16:59:11 -0400
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geez guys...

if ya wanna be mean and flame,
wanna know where you can send it?
yep, right here ~
puh-leezzzzze
let it be me !
i'm kinda bored today ~
i've fed the homeless
donated blood
and participated in a million good deeds
yadda yadda yadda
so, i'm free for the rest of the day
and i'm a sucker for fun mail ~

and please don't quote lamia ~
taking things out of context can be misconstrued ~
and if you recall,
lamia was merely trying to calm a storm from brewing ~

luv, blonde chick


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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 08:29:53 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

once again, the time difference makes me wake up to a flood of
email... (heh, check out the new sig)...

it's all pretty much been said by now i hope but please, please,
it's time to take the privacy debate to private email.  it's
probably also time to take the discussion about reclaiming
language etc to private mail also...

thanks everyone.

btw, sydney-area folks, the waifs were awesome last night.
they're playing at the cat & fiddle (darling st balmain)
again next thursday and the thursday after that.  bluehouse
are also playing next wednesday at bar broadway.  look for
me there!

sherlyn, who's going to be an hour late to work again today
for the fifth time this week...
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"time has a bad habit of flying - i was sleeping when it passed me by.
i was dreaming of what i would wear, when i got there..."
                                        - the waifs

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 15:33:28 pdt
reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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yeah, but what do ya'll think about the joan baez version? i don't like
it nearly as much as other joan songs, or as amy does it!!

*hugs*

lamia


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cannot find a place to grieve
clear a place between the grave stones
i said, clear a place for me.."

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 19:00:50 edt
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you know, the woman that is being talked about here in relation to amy ray may
not even be a girlfriend.  let's chill a little bit, ok?  i love the girls,
don't get me wrong, but let them have their own private lives, just like we
have our own.  any speculation should be done offlist, imho.

wmntime

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 16:48:31 -0700
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at 02:46 pm 7/16/98 -0500, karrie wrote:

        <major snippet>:

        ....amy and emily owe us nothing except music and that is that.....


        au contrare karrie --- a&e owe us nothing, their music is a
wonderful and benevolent gift!

tony

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 16:54:44 pdt
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i have three tickets to the lilth fair at merriweather post pavillion.
it is in columbia md and the tickets are for lawn seats on sunday, july
19th.  everyone is playing both days (they play two shows at
merriweather one on the 18th) so indigo girls will be there.  i'm going
to sell them for 35 dollars each, face value ($28+service charge
ticketmaster) if you would like a ticket just e-mail me and we can
arrange something, sorry about the short notice.
peace-rose


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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 03:22:36 -0700
reply-to:     michal rogson <starr@netvision.net.il>
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umm, sorry about the nigc, but anyone remember if miss piggy ever sang
"i will survive" to kermit on the muppet show?  my friend claims she
did, but i thought i was being original today when i started singing it
miss piggy style...
just wondering.

can't you just tell i had an interesting day?!
;-p
michal

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 03:18:17 -0700
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hey - how come nobody wants to know about the blonde _i'm_ dating?

oh, right.  i'm not dating a blonde.
i was kinda seeing a redhead once, tho'.  i mean, that's pretty
flamboyant.
but i don't like redheads no mo'.

man, i gotta stop having so many hot chocolates.  alcohol puts me to
sleep, but hot chocolate - woo hoo!!

okay, to the igc:
so, i jammed today for the first time with these people i met recently,
and it was pretty cool. but we need direction, so we've decided to
choose two songs each to cover, and we're going to work on them and in
that way get a feel for each other's styles and stuff.  so i'm
wondering:  which ig song should we cover?
okay, so we've got me (!!!) on acoustic guitar (and singing), an
electric guitar, a synthesizer and percussion (a funky hand-drum).  any
song pop into your heads that those instruments together could do really
well?  i love all ig, but i want something that could really utilize all
the instruments available, yaknow?

so come on, musically-talented-ig-expert-friends-o'-mine, give us a
hand!!

man, i *really* shouldn't have more than one hot chocolate, i really
shouldn't... or maybe it was having the coca-cola afterwards, you know,
the mix, in your bloodstream...
anyone else have this reaction to caffeine?

yeah.  and it's 3a.m. and i'm supposed to try and go to sleep now...
wish me luck!!!

;-)
peas, and other gross green things,
michal
who is for some odd reason recalling the time she put on her wonder
woman bathing suit, the gold semi-circle bracelets she found in her
mom's drawer which she stuck little star-stickers on, and  rope she
painted gold hanging around her waist, and jumped off a chair screaming
"wonder woman" to the tune of the t.v. theme song as her mom walked into
the room, scaring the sh_t out of her mom....oh right.  someone asked me
today what the wierdest thing i ever did was, and i couldn't think of
anything... delayed reaction.  pretty tame life i've led, huh?  anyone
want to send me the wierdest thing they ever did?  we could make a
list...  privately, of course.  don't worry, list mommies, i may be high
on caffeine, but i ain't lost all my marbles yet...

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 20:14:00 -0400
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you know i was having a quasi-crappy day, but my friends came by and stole
me away.  we went to this used music shop in town.  and...i found...
fact and fiction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
can you freaking believe it?????  i was soooo psyched - i bought it :)
(used cassette...total price $4.20) *heh*

anyways, our beloved em plays guitar on some numbers and is thanked for
that, and our beloved amy is thanked for letting her albums be available
thru daemon *swoons* and the scary part is i haven't listened to it yet...
i think i'm into torture :)

i'm off to the store.  maybe i will listen to it on the way and stuff :)
*waves*

--audra

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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

                                *****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
- kristen hall "just so you know"

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 20:41:07 edt
reply-to:     kayetea@aol.com
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   this is not a flame but, i think it has been clearly established that we
are not to discuss the girls' personal lives! i never have and i'm getting
sick of reading about it! all these posts on the issue are getting old!!!
                                            love,
                                                katy

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 21:17:07 -0400
reply-to:     marilyn macvey <mmacvey@attach.net>
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subject:      re: chicks and such
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>...maybe we are, in fact, reclaiming a word and thus
>taking away the negativity associated with it.  ????  whatcha think?


yeah....i can dig that...as an older member...who used to get pissed when
guys referred to women as chix...i now find myself using  the term,
certainly not in a derogatory sense...more like...cute chix. hey i don't
even mind being called that by a woman ...although i'm a  kind of a tough
old bird:-)

marilyn

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 21:05:08 edt
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hey
    i think i'm kinda late on this subject but i am just know getting to my
mail after being in london for two weeks with my lacrosse team.
    i think the lyrics ti its alright are great.  i think its awesome that
they are so open in their songs.

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 21:42:26 edt
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hey everyone

i called the riv today.  they didn't receive any ticket information yet.  he
told me to call back on monday to check for further developments.

brian

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 21:47:19 -0400
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hi y'all,

i am really anxious and/or anal (you choose!) to get my tickets for the
sufferagette tour.  anyway, i went back to the tm website.  they have 3
dates posted (no infor about onsale dates or prices): cincy, twin cities,
and one more i can't remember.  anyway, just wanted to tell everyone, the
twin cities show says 21 and over only (i am sooooooooooo glad that i turn
21 before the tour starts).  anyway, people who are under 21 who live in
mn might wannna start working on those fake id's ;-)  ("no, really, i
don't *care* about not being able to drink, i just want to be admitted to
the ig show!")

love,
karen :-)

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 21:52:19 -0400
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i really must say, i like "welcome me", but back when i bought n*i*s
(like when it came out...), the song did have to grow on me for a bit.
but now i like it.

yeah, i always thought that the line about the "lone coyote" was a
refrence to something native american.  and the song obviously (dah!) has
motiffs about the "great west".  hummmmmmm.....this is getting incoherent.
but that's just my 2cents (you know, the settlement of the west and native
americans...)

re joan baez:  i'll say it once more:  i think she ruins the song, but
that is only my 2cents.

anyway, i heard "welcome me" live in kentucky last april and i really
apperciated the fact that i did get a chance to hear it...

okay, i really need to go out on telegraph and find some food cause we
have no food in out apartment.  ugggggggggggggggggggg!

love,
karen :-)

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 18:56:10 pdt
reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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weird question, but is anyone going to see tori in birmingham?? and does
anyone know when the tix went on sale (hoping to still get halfway
decent ones!)

*hugs*

lamia


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that's just the way it goes?
why don't you decide for yourself
what you can do and what you can say?..
this is who i am
what i do
and what i say
if you like it, let it be
if you don't, please do the same..."
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i love the warning!!!  um...i was listening to my detroit station (the
river) @ home in cleveland...and...there was an ad for the suffragette
sessions tour!!  whoo hoo!!  problem.,..i *swear* it said that tickets
go on sale tomorrow morning!!!  it said friday (not sure if its an
upcoming friday...but i do believe its tomorrow).  i think its at the
state theater...and i bet thats not gen adm...which means move fast.
shoot...i don't wanna use my credit card.  they spelled my name wrong &
i didn't want a gm card & i'll have to pay the activiation fee & i
didn't want to use it...shoot.  i wonder if i should buy sarah a ticket?
i hate her being at camp (if she wasn't...she could buy the tickets,
being that she lives in michigan.....)
carol (the frazzed & confused)

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 21:39:31 edt
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hey,
      i was just in london and i found this cd that i had never ever heard of
or seen before.  its called 4.5   i think i'm just crazy but if anyone could
e-mail me to make sure i'm not please do so.  thanks

  all things indigo
karrie

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 21:46:22 edt
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hey ,
i was just wondering if anyone is going to lilith on the 19th of july at
merriweather?  it would be kinda cool if we could meet up!  e-mail me!

all things indigo
   karrie

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 12:06:50 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

found this on the newsgroup... (standard disclaimer -
i have no affiliation with these people, etc etc etc...)

-sherlyn
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sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au            [sydney, australia]
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subject: fs:reverse 1 & shades cd's
date: thu, 16 jul 1998 23:10:49 gmt

i have these on cd for sale:
reverse 1 : absolutely mint : it was sealed when i got it and i've only played
it once. asking $100.
shades of indigo : absolutely mint : it is still sealed. it has purple cover.
asking $60.
or make offer.
e-mail: eighties@ij.netanthony

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 19:43:49 -0700
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hello daemon fans!  july's trivia game at daemon underground is up!  i
few clever people even found it, though it was not listed on our main
page.  this month we are featuring honor the earth.  to play, go to
www.daemonunderground.com  the prize pack for july is:

1 honor cd or 1 honor the earth t-shirt (winner's choice)
a donation to the honor the earth campaign in winner's name
1 sticker (louder than you think)

flyer queen  =)

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 22:21:50 edt
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if anyone wants to know how to play any of the songs just e-mil me

karrie

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 17:00:14 hst
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i am a suffering ig lover. i currently live in hi and have no financial
way of going to any lilith of suff tours. i cried last summer because i
missed it, and i have to miss it again--doesn't it suck beng poor. my
soul cries constantly for their live performances. will anyone be
willing to tape any or a compilation of the ig performances? last years
performances are good too?
(i also like sarah mc., tracy chapman, dar williams, etc. if you have a
boot from last lilith). let me know how much?

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 23:51:11 edt
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in a message dated 98-07-16 20:47:37 edt, tisara@www.webworqs.com writes:

<< anyways, our beloved em plays guitar on some numbers and is thanked for
that, and our beloved amy is thanked for letting her albums be available
thru daemon *swoons* and the scary part is i haven't listened to it yet... >>

don't forget- sulli sings on one of the songs too!! :)

i can't remember which one at the time. i'm thisclose to being unconscious.


peace,
rick
listening to: marco beltrami's scream scores

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 17:53:22 hst
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its getting annoying people--who cares

be nice!

maybe that girl just wanted to know if amy was available. maybe she
wants to ask her out--hehe good luck!
=)


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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 20:58:48 pdt
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ya'll the trivia games are fun, and a bit difficult, but not so
difficult that you can't answer them! i had to guess on one for last
month's and one for this month's! but they let you know if you got one
wrong so you can try again!!

*hugs*

lamia


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that's just the way it goes?
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what you can do and what you can say?..
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what i do
and what i say
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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 23:39:27 -0400
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and of course, i'm brain dead and have forgotten who sulli is :)

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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

                                *****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
- kristen hall "just so you know"

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 21:10:35 pdt
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sulli sings on it?? oh i must hear!!!!! *excited*

lamia


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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 23:44:25 -0400
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um i forgot to write down the zip code for youthpride...just send it to me
privy and i'll get it in the morning *drags her tired ass to bed*

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just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 00:18:04 edt
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hey y'all...i have one remaining set of newport folk festival tickets...for
$66.00 the tickets would get you into the concert on august 8th and august
9th...if interested, please e-mail me privately! thanks-  jen

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i paid $90 for my reverse 1 live and $35 for my shades of indigo.
cd-r copies of songs from these and other rare sources should
not be sold.  giving them away, or getting something in trade
equal to the cost of making these copies should be the policy
as it is for tape trades.  unfortunately, there are some people
out there looking to make money off fans' desire for the music.

also, i paid $85 for my club r&r.

i've seen the original promos available on the web, but expect
to pay what i did or more(i've seen rev1 for $115, club r&r
for $105).

when cd-r making is more common and less time-consuming, everyone
would be able to get copies of all the music from other listees.
i hope to help in this effort in the near future.

indigo always,
   scott

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first of all i would like to ask everyone on this listserv to keep their
messages friendly, all of the swaring, nasty remarks and all capital shouting
is tiresome.
on to a better topic, bogart's (cincinnati suffragette) tickets go on sale
this weekend for $20 each.  (ticketmaster doesn't have the info but bogart's
does)
also, does anyone else love "southland in the springtime" as much as i do?
it's such a beautiful, comforting song. . .i'd love to hear your thoughts!
kathy

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 21:57:54 pdt
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please stop ok i've had enough..if enough people email me back, i will
voluntarily leave the list. however (you know who you are) the woman who
mailed me from another address b/c i blocked the one she was flaming me
from before stop leave me alone or i'm reporting you to hotmail.
if ya'll want me to leave i will go.

just please stop it! enough is enough everyone has said they're tired of
the discussion, sheryln has said drop it why can't you drop it??

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i just resubscribed last week after a hiatus of, i think, 7 months.  i
was leaving scotland to move here (usa), plus i was upset with some of
the dicussions on the list at the time.

i'm saddened to see that very little has changed.  i won't go into
details, y'all are probably sick o' it.

so long and thanks for all the fish.

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hey all!

sorry i did not post last night, but i was so darn tired and felt so ill form
the day in the sun that i went right to bed.  it was a perfert day for lilith
in nyc!  my buddy dan and i got to jones beach early and heard the sound check
of nataile.  she is a blast live and it has been a treat to see her again (my
3rd time).

there was a cute young girl who we met by the back stage gate where dan and i
were waiting before they opened the main area.  she was in the wonder video
three years ago, and i guess later, after we had gone in to the show, nataile
came out and spent a few minutes with them.  the little girl has downs and was
really excited about the concert.  as it turned out, her seats, with her
family, were behind ours so we got to chat with them later.

so the whole lilith thing makes you feel so pumped and like when you are
there, nothing can touch you!  i got henna done on my wrist.  well worth the
wait because the folks at that booth are wonderful!  if they come to your town
with the tour, stop by and get even a $25 little design.

so one of the highlights was missy elliot.  as it has been said before, amy
seemed interested in missy's set and we also know that amy kinda enjoys a
little rap now and then, so i was most interested in seeing what this would be
like.  being a 28 year old white female form the midwest, i grew up when rap
was just starting, but that was my brother's bag, not mine.  well, missy is a
blast!  she ran all over the theater, driving her gards crazy!  you could
follow her with your eyes up in the stands by all the people standing up to
see her pass by.  missy would sit in a seat for a few seconds or just walk
down a row full of people!  it was too funny!  dan is not into rap at all and
he seemed to have a good time as well.

then it was time for our girls!

i have to say one thing before i start....  this was my 10th show and i was
still as in as much shock and amazment at what beautiful souls they have and
how wonderful they sing you would have thought it was my first time!

the *real* ig fans seemed to be farther up in the seats or way up front close.
and i did hear folks at the end sing happy bday to emily which i thought was
cool!  there were folks sitting by us who were with a ny singer called eden
white, and they seemed to  liked ig well enough, but not the freaky way *we*
do.

anywho... i did not write down a set lets or anything, but i love the new song
gone again.  it sounds like the old ig many of us fell in love with back in
the late 1980's!  i also loved how they moved from karla faye into scooter
boys with out a break.  it seemed form what i could hear and see, through my
eye-spy-glasses, that they were a little hesitant about this, but emily said
just do it and they went into kft and the scooter.  i had wished missy had not
left the area.  it would have been cool to see her take on ctf, but oh well!
we could see the back area after missy's set and see amy and emily chatting
with missy's crew.  kinda neat if you ask me!

and what is up with amy and the blue leather pants?  just asking....

also> a&e came out to sing a song with sarah during tracy bonham's set.  it
seemed as if they had a blast!

and at the end, the group song, a&e seemed a tad out of place.  nat was all
over the stage and the others were dancing, but a&e were just singing and kind
booping along.  amy had a guitar, but since emily had to sing, she did not
have hers. i think it was the song they did on david letterman, but like kate,
i cant seem to remember the darn name!  kate seemed to think they danced, but
i just thought it was odd to see the difference between their stage manner and
that of lets say nat.

well i guess that is the long and short of the show!  gweneth paltrow was
there!  that was kinda cool seeing a movie star!  (and she has blond hair....)

i do have one question>  could some one email me in private is they know who
the guy is who hangs with a&e who is of med hight and build with longish curly
hair that he wears in a ponytail?  he was sitting in an empty seat near us
druing their set and then was on stage during ctf and the end song.  i am
drawing a blank as to what r. carter looks like so if you can help, let me
know!  he had a badge on saying he was with ig it seemed as if her was taking
mental notes on the new stuff.  he also came out during sarah's set when one
of the ig band members sat in on a song.

oh>>> one more thing, along with her *other* friends sitting on her amp, emliy
had this little stuffed toy dog, with floppy ears and red sunglasses, that
moved when she made music!  it was too funny to watch!

well i am sorry to u all this is so long!  i am on vacation form work and have
nothing better to do then sit here and read posts about chicks and private
lives and write long reviews!

babs: who had wished she was up close with the folks who sang happy birthday!

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 19:14:57 hst
reply-to:     "s.d. l" <dreamst8@hotmail.com>
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someone asked about sits--
>that i song of my favorite songs!!!
i grew up in the south and know exactly what they are referring to. it
is beautiful. everytime i hear it a rush of fresh air fills my soul,
lungs, mind, body.

on a different note...
anyone know where i can hear a clip of "blood quantum" the 1st
co-written song by the girls? i think it's on the honor the earth cd

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ok, now, i know i reviewed yesterday's lilith, and no, i don't have $110 to
blow on concerts in one week, so here's what this crazy listee did, just for
you guys (oh ok, maybe i had an ulterior motive, like um.. hearing the
girls!!)!! yes that's right folks, i drove down to jones beach, parked at
another parking field and walked to the ampitheatre to sit outside in the
parking lot just to hear the girls play!!  and i was impressed at the sound
quality, i am may never buy tix for jones beach shows again ; )
  so, i couldn't see them, but i could hear them loud and clear... well
almost, i had the nerve to get angry at the people hanging out in the parking
lot for talking while i was watching, i mean listening, to a concert... and i
clapped when the girls were done which got me some pretty bizarre looks, but
hey... anyway, here's my review!!
   they opened with shame on you, followed by galileo with a sax solo, i
couldn't hear the name of the sax player or anything, maybe someone else can
help out here.  then, much to my excitement they played kid fears, it was a
little slow and it really missed michael stipe, but not to fear i filled in
for him quite nicely, even if only the people trying to scalp tickets heard!!
; )  song #4 was it's alright.  i hafta say that emily was really tearing it
up on this one!  you know how they sometimes change the voice parts in live
concerts, well she was all over the place with the melody, a lot of passion
and energy, a great performance.  the fifth song was shed your skin.  next
came water is wide, with just sarah and a trumpet playing a verse.  i am gonna
assume that it was the same woman who played trumpet last night, except i am
fairly sure i saw her with a flugelhorn at one point, but who knows!  she is
great by the way, she played some awesome solos, anyone know her name?  next
was get out the map.  scooter boys was next and very different from last
nights version, there was this huge jam session, which included a lot of
spoken word by amy, which unfortunatly i couldn't hear very much of, but i
managed to catch the last few words, "i am the pain but so are you"  i believe
those are the words, anyone?  really exciting was a slow rendition of ghost,
which i was really excited about hearing, since it is one of my favs.  next
was closer to fine, with someone seriously messing up the first verse and a
verse by garrison starr, but that's all i could get.  i don't know who else
sang.
   i think i did pretty well in this considering my seats ; )  so now you know
it folks, no need to pay for an open air arena concert!  living proof ; )
--kate

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 01:16:45 edt
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yeah, let it go now.  we don't want to see lamia leave the list!  stop the
insanity!!
~jennifer

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just noticed something guys... it was quite funny to me.  you might not care,
but whatever.  those of you with the indigo girls live cd, the pink one,
listen to a certain part in "tried to be true", track number 2.  i believe it
is in the 2nd minute, and 12 seconds... dont kill me if i am wrong.  beer does
that.  yea, try 2:12

amy does a cute little scream :)

erin, who is hoping this will lighten up the list...

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 19:27:26 hst
reply-to:     "s.d. l" <dreamst8@hotmail.com>
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****read please*****

everyone got upset earlier because of the topic of a & e's personal
lives...i agree--we shouldn't snoop (be adults).
           @@@@@@@@@@@************but!!!*************@@@@@@@@@@@
how's this for an idea...
how 'bout the next time you hear someone ask a personal question like
that... don't reply!!! if no one replied and everyone ignored them than
they'd probably stop asking! ***right?
before sending hate-mail to the ignorant or misunderstood...ask
yourselves "would amy or emily say things like this?"

be respectful of those who don't want to hear all your fighting!!!

i joined this list to learn about the indigo girls, not to throw away
every email in my box before i read it because i am sick of all the
bickering!!!
i also joined this list to discuss their songs and the wonderful impact
they have! isn't that what this is for...??????????

everyone keeps leaving this discussion group because of all the slander
and immature thoughts in the group.

please try this a see what happens!!!

steph  =}
"can't we just all get along"

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 22:42:55 pdt
reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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next was closer to fine, with someone seriously messing up the first
verse and a verse by garrison starr,


oh my god! i love garrison starr please someone tell me you booted this
or know of someone who did!!!

lamia

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 02:01:26 edt
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<< in a message dated 98-07-09 19:29:18 edt, reposa@scf-fs.usc.edu writes:

<< im so sad..i have a bunch of replies, from people who also sent money to
  sarah for the stickrs and have nerver recevied anything, not even a
  response..ive never ever had a problem like this with anyone on the
  list..im so disappointed...anyone have any suggestion for what the group
  of us should do?? thanks!! >>

hello!
       it's me, the infamous sticker bandit! :0  until now, i had no idea
anyone was missing anything... i ahevn't actually read any of me e-mail in a
couple of months it seems... i'm still plundering trough a bunch of junk from
the 8th of may... i thought i'd take a break and see what was going on in the
present, and then i found this.  i'm really here and not trying to steal
anyone's stickers or anything... i had problems with three of the orders in
particular and contacted those involved.  other than that, all of the
stickers from the first round of orders should have reached their
destinations... so, i guess i'll try and read my current e-mail this week to
fix any problems anyone is having... let me know what's going on, you guys!
peace, sarah >>

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well, maybe you all can help me with a little puzzle i am thinking up...
  at the two shows i heard ig play in the past two days, not a single song
from swamp ophelia was played.  i mean, no songs from nis of sf were played
either, but to an average fan who maybe knows rop and so, plus ctf, that
wouldn't matter.  but i had two friends be very disappointed cause no so was
played and they only know so and rop things... any thoughts to why this may
be?
--kate

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ok, i had an indigo moment today.  i was reading the comics and i read the
lockhorns and the comic was something to the effect of "we're out of the red
and into the deep crimsom."  and my first reaction was to sing, "although i'm
working harder than last year, i'm still deep in the red!"   : )  boy i do
love those girls!!! : )
--kate

(does anyone notice that i am like post happy tonight??  i think i may be
coming down with something ; )   )

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i think it must get kinda tired playing the very old stuff all the time.

plus, when you get to go to a real ig show and they play for what seems like
dayz, and you get to hear *the missing material*, you feel sooooooooo good!

also, for us it seems like forever,  but soy is still new so i guess they are
plugging that cd to the mass fans at lilith and the fleadh.

or who knows!!!

babs .02

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i really feel strongly about this so i just have to comment ...

chicks really need privacy.
they deserve it for god sakes, because, well,
they're little ....  and all fuzzy.
you know ?
unless they are peeps.
then they need to be eaten.

glad i got that off my chest.
;)
binky

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 01:32:32 pdt
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i don't know why they don't seem to play so material so much...but that is one of the things i liked about that london show...fugitive, ttr, least complicated, dmh.  i loved the swamp tour.  i still remember the st. louis show.  the stage looked just like so album cover.  just a & e without the band and when they came out to do the encore, i think it was chicken man and then touch me fall...man when emily played that electric guitar...it was so different than what i'd seen before.  it rocked!  it was like seeing the beginning of an evolution...

toye

kate wrote:

>   at the two shows i heard ig play in the past two days, not a single song
> from swamp ophelia was played.

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what???  amy and leather???  i've always had this fantasy about amy and leather...see, she's in these leather pants and....well, maybe i better not go there! *w*  ;)     but my point is my fantasy amy/leather is black....now it's ruined with this blue leather thing...darn it!

toye

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date:         thu, 16 jul 1998 20:36:11 hst
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is this really an adress the indigo girls can be reached at or written
to: 315 ponce de leon ave., #755, decatur, ga 30030 ?
i found it on the internet

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i know, i know!

a few weeks back some one was looking for a way to make tape covers on the
computer.  like a program..

well now i find i am in need of that program and have no clue where to get a
hold of that stuff.

please someone email me a website or something!  thanks!!!

babs: who is making tons of tapes of new music and is sick of having to write
out the songs on the little lines that maxell give u!

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i found this vinyl for sale at a web auction and am trying to find out
if it's what i think it is.....
does this description sound like the "shades of indigo" that people were
trying to sell for $60-$100 earlier today?
indigo girls-shades of indigo w/shawn colvin lp super rare indigo girls
piece epic eas2201 "an interview by shawn colvin"
       cover is in vg+/nm condition. there is a crease on the front
about 2 1/2" down along the spine. the vinyl is in nm condition. it
       features live versions of "hammer and a nail", "you and me of the
10,000 wars", "pushing the needle too far", watershed"
       and the 2 unreleased tracks "daddy's all gone" and "melissa"
recorded at the paramount theater, denver co on october 21 & 22
       1990.

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 09:01:28 +0100
reply-to:     sharon bell <njt21@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
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> let's discuss a randomly chosen song: "world falls".  what exactly is
> the image of a coyote supposed to mean?


nice choice! my favourite song of the moment. but where's the coyote? is
it not in "welcome me"? well anyway in *that* one i think it's about
freedom... mind you this is probly just because i buy into the image of
amy as this big mad woman chasing around the world on a motorbike or
something... but yeah, about freedom, and giving it up in compromise.

um with respect to all this privacy stuff i'm just gonna add my comments,
so there: i sympathise with lamia and the girl who asked the question in
the first place, although i realise that it's a rule of the list that we
don't talk about this stuff (although i think this kind of gossip is maybe
not what amy meant in that interview, it's probably best to be safe). but,
can we be nice? *not* flame each other? i unsubbed from the ig newsgroup
after witnessing a flame war on *this very subject* a few days ago. and
i'm having a fight with my flatmate at the minute and i can't take much
more unpleasantness...

sharon

"i could teach her how i learned to dance when the music's ended"
cool as i am, dar williams
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wish i could harvest some of them for small talk"
ani difranco

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 18:20:14 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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guys, please... this is all getting way out of hand.
everybody just step back and take a deep breath, please...

i know it's part of human nature to be curious, especially
about something that's so close to our hearts as ig.
however, it is important to realise that amy and emily are
people too and are entitled to their privacy, life in the
spotlight or not.  this is something that we definitely
need to respect.

by the same token, we also need to realise that every
single person on this list is a human being with feelings.
that's another thing we need to respect.  remember, there
are a lot of people on this list, and with that comes the
fact that no two people on this list are going to feel the
same way about anything.  we're people, and that's a part
of life.  we have to be patient and try to undestand one
another.  i know it seems pretty impersonal sometimes, to
sit and type letters and send them off into the wild blue
yonder, but the fact is that these emails are bouncing
around the world and landing in the mailboxes of...
people.  people with feelings and thoughts and opinions of
their own.  please try to keep that in mind, and please,
please try to respect one another.

with that in mind please... it's time to end this debate.
please.

thanks folks -
sherlyn
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i love southland in the springtime and i've been a new yorker all of my life.
the song takes me to the south and fills me with the images described by
emily...that's one indigo song that can definitely cross over into country -
not that i'm suggesting that, i hate country music generally - but i like that
they're so universal that they can have such a diversity of songs in their
body of work.

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 07:52:54 -0500
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{amy and emily owe us nothing except music and that is that}

""au contrare karrie --- a&e owe us nothing, their music is a
wonderful and benevolent gift!"

i have lurked on this topic but must agree with multiple points. this
issue of their private lives needs to simply go away. it doesn't matter.
when they write to us and ask for advice then we can bring it up...only
after they present it to the list.

they do not owe us anything. if they stopped writing and singing
(goddess forbid) today then we would all be ahellauva lot better off for
the music , memories and life experiences they have shared with us and
help each and everyone of us through. it was once said that we as a
people owe our parents everything but all we are expected to return is
their love.

it does not appear that the indigo spirit is being shared on this list
in reference to this topic. let us stop this thread and move to the
things that really do matter. the words, the songs, their meanings to us
and the experience and joy of being able to say we know and love the
music of the indigo girls.

okay, sparkie is going back into her little area. love to you all and
please..no hard feelings....

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i just heard an evil rumor that ig were not at lilith in nyc...they were
scheduled to be though...were they or weren't they????  if not, does this mean
they won't be at merriweather this weekend???? what's up?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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hey atlanta people,

miami's local rock goddess/diva will be at eddie's attic tonight, friday july
17th.  she's set to go on at 7pm, and i think there might be another set at
9.30pm.

i've mentioned her before on this list as a >highly recommended< musician for
you all to go out and see.  run, don't walk.  she regularly tours around the
southeast, mostly in florida-- and i forgot to plug her earlier shows in tampa
and jacksonville last week :(

you won't regret checking her out.  she's one the brightest spots in our
otherwise anemic local scene down here.  and for the little bit of igc, she
managed to snag the second stage as an opening act for a+e when they came down
to coral sky in west palm beach last september (was it?).  and on a personal,
freakish note, next to a+e, she's probably one of my most favorite artists.
she and the girls regualrly trade places in my cd player (that sounds kinda
nasty) whoo-hoo! :-*

next week she's got some dates with magda hiller (another one of our top local
singers-- jazzy, bluesy, folksy, bad-ass freak), and deb and steph from
halcyon (!!).  i'll be posting those dates next week :)

go see her!!  this is her web address so you all can check on future dates.
but i'll keep the list updated anyway :)
http://members.aol.com/thipthip/index.html

otts
who has posted nary a word in quite some time but is most displeased and
saddened at all this foolishness about people leaving the list because of
meanness and intolerance and who's adopted the cutest little crab that lives
in a hole under his pawch and called it poohnanny since it's a crabby and
that's a word for you know what where he comes from.  hee-hee.

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 09:55:47 -0500
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yeah...blood quantum is on the honor the earth cd...i also got a tape
from a friend that has a live recording from that tour of the song, and
the same tape has (random compilation of several boots) shame on you
(from a 6 mos before sots was released....they sing "take off our
clothes (instead of 'shoes') hee hee) and nowhere to go for any melissa
fans

ive played it so many times that the quality is very questionable but if
anyone wants a copy (i would bet that there are much better boots of
these songs out there...) ill do it...

i just feel special for having that tape because it was from a very
special friend and came at a time when i was very vulnerable and the
music  (ig ani kristen hall melissa ferrick nanci griffith
me...catie*swoon*)
kept me halfway sane through that time....

but i understand that its not really anything to boast about i just felt
like sharing because i never have much to say here and i felt like it so
there!

anyway...back to work...keep singin y'all!

-kim

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ive only been on this list a few weeks and i have learned so much i feel
like im completely clueless....all these promos and rare albums....i
didnt even know they existed....i have no boots of any ig shows...i dont
have the money to go to many shows (or the time off for that matter)
and if anyone out there would take mercy on me...i just bought a bunch
of blank tapes...and if anyone out there would like to share some of
their wealth with the poor lil boot less me....*puppy dog eyes*

i have no problem paying for them...im also po' but i can send
...say....5 bucks + return postage? for anything you might be wiling to
send????

this is my plea....if it doesnt work....i can offer myself as a love
slave.....lol....

im finding it hard to get into trading when i have nothing to offer....


boot-less (kim looking up longingly at *you*)

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 07:25:00 pdt
reply-to:     bethany p <pbethany@hotmail.com>
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i come bearing ticket info.  i was roused from my slumber this
morning...a phone call from miss jill certo, begging me to post this to
the list (she's offline for a while.  she'll be back soon enough). ;)
so, here ya' go. heh heh...

tix for the suffragette sessions tour --
*state theater in detroit, michigan
*on sale thru ticketmaster this morning at  10:00 a.m.
*the ticketmaster number...(248)645-6666
*cost - $23.50 plus a $4.50 convience charge (if ordered by phone)
*seating is general admission

there ya' go.  hope this helps some of you ticket seekers. :)

take care,
bethany :)

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 10:36:06 -0500
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hey there all indigohians- (and anyone else who cares)

i called the agora and ticketmaster both this morning and there is
currently no on sale date or even confirmation of the suffragette
sessions....

however, if anyone has any different information, could you please mail
me and let me know?

thanks-
karrie
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okay i was gonna post something before about how a friends something, and
another friend and i chimed in with an ig song...but i can't remember
which one it was...so i'll do this.  i was just going through the mail
here at work, and i saw an envelope from innovation groups.  so it should
have been no surprise to me that it said "ig newsletter" inside...but i
still jolted and grinned...it's a sad day :)
*snickers*

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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

                                *****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
- kristen hall "just so you know"

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hey gang-

er, so i'm unsubbing. the list is just not doing it for me anymore and i think
in the last day i've reached the point where the amount of actual igc isn't
worth all the one liners, off-topic debates & other stuff. :(

anyway, i wanted to post a note to say that if anybody happens to find a tape
of the girls singing with sinead o'connor (at one of the lilith shows- can't
remember which one), i'm definitely interested in a trade and would be very
very pleased if you dropped me a line. :)

fare thee well, ya'll.
   rick

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 08:54:17 pdt
reply-to:     lance longwell <longwell_ls@hotmail.com>
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hkf,

in the midst of the flames of inhumanity, i thought i would make my
request (at the very least it will give you all something else to read).

about 4 years ago, my friend robert and i made a quilt piece for our
friend paolo who last his battle with aids.  last week, when my friend
mark lost his gary, those memories came back.  i spoke with mark
yesterday, and he asked me to help him with making a quilt piece for
gary (since i happen to the sewing person around).  however, i have
forgotten where we send the quilt when it's done.  does anyone know?
last time, i thought we sent it to some place in virginia.  has anyone
been through this lately and might have more current information?

finally, to those in nyc who have been waiting for my mini-list (with
dar, garrison starr, lisa loeb, danielle howle info....), sorry i'm
running a little behind.  i promise i'll get you something this weekend!
thanks for the patience.

l'sly


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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 08:51:23 -0700
reply-to:     monique barbanson <monique@entelechy.com>
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just wanted to point out that we're not in our living room here. there
are many, many people on the list, some long timers who have posted
often, some just here for a short time, because this list has that word:
"girls" in its name. (i'm not even mentionning the possibility that this
list is being watched by the religious right to find out incriminating
info :)) essentially, our messages are out there for anyone to look at
including folks who might not be so well intentionned as the people you
know personally or though posts on the list. this is just a reality of
the internet. do you know that the archives for this list are available
for anyone to look through back from the first message?

another thought: would you be comfortable knowing that a&e had read all
your posts to this list just before coming up to get an autograph from
them?

of course we're all curious about a&e and who they are as people. it's
natural, we're only humans. it's just not appropriate to discuss these
things in an open forum like an internet mailing list. please consider
using private email for these things. if you read the list for a while,
you find out who might have similar interests or info you'd like to
know.

sorry to make this whole thread longer. please send flames to me by
private email only.

cheers,

monique

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reply-to:     gitroop@aol.com
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sorry gals and guys, i should have clarified.  i was talking about back on the
bus ya'll... and on it, for those of you who missed, is a cute little
something done by the wonderful miss ray on tried to be true, at 2 mins and 12
seconds... check it out :)

tried to be true is the 2nd song...

have a wonderful day :)  oh, and the donations will be sent out today...
*whew*

erin

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something else i've noticed, there've been 2 or 3 new amy songs, but as
far as i have seen/heard, no new emilys!! is this unusual??

*hugs*

lamia


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reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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i must be deranged! i looked down at mom's papers and thought they said
get map..but really they said gatnap. but that didn't stop the song from
going thru my head *l*

lamia


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maybe you just need to "get nap!"  *lol*

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> i must be deranged! i looked down at mom's papers and thought they said
> get map..but really they said gatnap.

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this is the most ridiculious mailing list i have ever been part of!  i have
only been a member of this list 2 days and i'm ready to be removed from it!
all i have found in my mailbox are letters that should be dicussed on a
message board.....which btw, there are two of devoted to the ig's.  so why
don't you take your simple ig chit-chat and questions to the message boards
and leave the mailing list open for ig new, events and publications, like it
should be?

lvf  (a new and totally dissatisfied mailing list member)

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since info is scarse as usual, we might as well post about on-sales, even
if it's repetitive..


right now, there are two shows in the suffragette tour on-sale via
ticketmaster:

8/19 - portland, maine  (on line this is under "suffragette sessions")
8/24 - detroit, michigan (on line this is under "indigo girls")


both are general admission.  total prices if you order them on line at
the ticketmaster web site are $30-$32 ish.

the site is http://www.ticketmaster.com


there are two more shows listed(which means they'll probably go on sale
soon):

8/28 minneapolis, minnesota
8/30 cincinatti, ohio

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 13:21:18 -0500
reply-to:     connie & todd tsuchiya <tsuch002@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
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don't know if this has been mentioned already, but ig is on the cover of
the lesbian news, vol. 23, no. 12, july '98. inside is an interview with
amy and some pix i haven't seen before. check it out...

connie

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 13:30:19 -0500
reply-to:     "riney, lora lei l." <llriney@saintfrancis.com>
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but ig is on the cover of
the lesbian news, vol. 23, no. 12, july '98. inside is an interview

i got it a couple of days ago.....it is good article and there are great
photos...found the mag by accident . actually i was getting the current
copy of out and those two beautiful women just leapt off the page at
me...(wishes)..any way...recommend picking it up.....sparkie

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well  today  seems  like  the  big  day!

after all of our pissing and moning, we as a list have done something so
wonderful in the donation for emily to the group in atlanta!

i think we need to thank erin and jill for all their hard work and for the
woman who made the card (i forget her name) and put all our names on it.

this is the very thing this list is about in the first place and it is nice to
feel a part of somehting so very special!

thanks againg erin and jill and all of you who joined me in a donation to this
wonderful charity.

happy day!

babs:  who is staying put on the list!

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ok guys.  all ready to send off.  thank you rena, the card turned out
absolutely wonderful!  the grand total comes to $1060  :)  which i think is
awesome... considering the time frame we had.  i want to thank everyone who
contributed and those who didnt also.  the donation is being made on behalf of
the mailing list, not part of it.  without all 700+ subscribers, the list
wouldnt be what it was.  i am sure emily will appriciate it.  there were some
of you who didnt send me your email address, but i do have your regular
mailing address.  so your e/m address will not be on the card.  im sorry.  i
would look them all up, but there are approx. 25 of you who didnt.  but no
worries :)

there were a total of 47 donators.

i hope all of you have a wonderful weekend, and remember to stay safe :)

sincerely,
erin tripp and jill certo

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okay.. i guess i have been deleting everything way to often... because i
hav e no clue what this suffregette tour is.  so call me stupid, but while
you are doing that could someone send me information about it.. i would
really appreciate it... thanks ahead of time!!    -jen

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 16:43:24 -0400
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i just wanted to say that....

peace + love,
forever a flower child
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if you're not outraged, then you're not paying attention!
                bcorrice@wam.umd.edu
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ditto


sparkie

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hi everybody,

the lesbian news on-line have a snippet of the interview in the current
july '98 issue:

the indigo girls!

more from amy ray

by heidi hudson

ln: you are both such an influence on young, old and in-between. do you
notice the diversity at your shows?

amy ray: we've noticed. we feel appreciative of that. we don't know why
it's happening. we try not to think about it because we'll curse it if
we do! that's the favorite thing about the movement of our career to us,
that has been watching the demographic grow of our audience. it's great
to play to people who are our peers, who have the same value systems and
the same exact structures we have in life, but it's also great to play
to people who might feel slightly different to us. the diversity is
better and in age is better. i think generations need to teach each
other things. everyone associates that older people are conservative and
younger people&emdash;you know, it's this kind of thing like you can
learn from everybody. there are people that went before us in their 60's
now that did a lot of stuff that's allowing us to be who we are today.

ln: how's your own record label, daemon records, going?

amy ray: good. actually its been around for 8 years now. it's slowly
growing and we've been through a lot of configurations and a lot of
different ideas on how to run a record label. i'm just now starting to
get the hang of it.

ln: have you signed any new artists to daemon?

amy ray: i have a record coming out in a couple of weeks by a band from
alabama called three finger cowboy, they're sort of like a punky-rock
band, poppy-punk, i don't know how to describe them! it's very old-time
rock-n-roll, really good song writing. they're just like a rock band.
their songs are so great. their record is called kissed and its coming
out in a few weeks. they're amazing.

ln: do you ever feel tired or burnt out from doing so much?

amy ray: i get pretty tired and sometimes i think that i need to not do
so much. this year's been pretty rough. we've done a lot of benefits, a
lot of projects where we just don't show up and play. the groups we are
involved in we usually put the benefits together ourselves and we
organize all the artists. it takes a lot of energy. the record label
takes a lot of energy. emily and i are constantly trying to change the
scenario as well. we play with a band, play without a band ... change
back and forth and always have to readjust and practice. it's worth it.
whenever i look at slowing down, i don't want to, i really enjoy
everything i'm doing. i want to do it. if i get burnt out, sometimes
i'll just take a day and not do anything and that's pretty much enough
to recharge me!

ln: that's it? that's usually your break, one day?

amy ray: what we do usually is go on the road for three weeks and then
we take a week or ten days off and we do that for a year or year and a
half. but during my breaks i'm usually working at the record label so
there is not really ever complete down time. there is more time than you
think, though. there's a lot of waiting around when you're on the road;
waiting around for soundcheck, waiting around for interviews... in that
time you're really alone. you can have some contemplative time.

ln: i was reading some of your diary notes on the internet from your
trip to mexico. you and emily are both very good writers. [she laughs.]
do either one of you foresee writing a book sometime in the
future&emdash;fictional or real?

amy ray: i have encouraged emily because i feel that she has a real
talent. i have never considered it myself. i probably never will. it's a
labor for me to write anything except songs!

for the complete amy ray interview, check out our july '98 issue at your
local newsstand.

you can also order it directly from them.  check out their site for more
details:

http://www.lesbiannews.com

claudine

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someone posted a few weeks to say that ig will be on the cover of the
performing songwriter.  indeed they are (the july issue).  i haven't gotten to
read the article yet but it looks like the interview with amy is the same as
the one in goldmine.  the cover photo looks like it came from the same photo
shoot as the curve cover.  emily looks really tough in the picture, amy looks
tired. there's a collage of pictures in the centerfold which i'm definitely
going to hang up.

i was able to find this magazine in nyc and no, i do not have any extra
copies.

wmntime

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 16:54:36 pdt
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hey!  could someone please tell me about the album blood and fire?
like, how rare is it and what is a usual price to pay for it? ... and
anything else you can think of.
muchas gracias,

liz


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subject:      cdr's - cd boots - ect....
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i was thinking - not to endorse the buying of boot cdr's --- cd's are
different - like say a kts release - they actually are collectable. but
people who are selling cdr's for the sole intent of making $$ is kinda lame
- have i  even done it - yes - because there were titiles i haven't been
able to find.  i have to disagree with the idea that fans are not trying to
limit the amount of boot cd's bought - rich hodkin burned a bunch of cd's
for the list for free - i have burned a few for friends as well - and it is
not at all (at least in my experience - i'm using adaptec software - if
there is software that let's you burn audio cd's faster than 2.5 hours doing
a copy cd - let me know.
maybe someone should put a boot cd discography up on the www? promo stuff
ect? it would solve the numerous questions about various other titles - and
maybe link it to people who would tape it for you...


just my .02
mike r.

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reply-to:     tony & leigh ann <junebug@aeneas.net>
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subject:      trading etiquette
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if i had the address of the person to whom this is intended, i would
email that person privately.  however, i do not.  so i will say this
publically, and hopefully this person will know who she is.

i do not appreciate sending you a type ii, high position maxell blank
for you to dub something onto and receiving back from you the boot
taped onto a type i sony *dookeyball* tape.  the reason i spent the
extra $ for the better quality maxell tape was so that i would have a
better quality boot.  now, you got to keep my good tape, and i'm stuck
with the boot you dubbed for me on an inferior quality tape.  it's a
really tacky thing for you to do, don't you think?  if you want to
do someone a favor by dubbing something for them, that's great, but
do it with some etiquette, please!  what you did is totally unfair and
uncouth.  you cheated me. do not expect any trades with me ever again.

yeah, you know who you are.

leigh ann

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>>>if you're neither of these people, this message will only waste
your time, so you might as well skip it. >>>

i now have my copy of the tape you were both requesting.
i sent you both my snail mail addy, but if you need it again
email me & i'll send it to ya again.  at any rate, i am now
"in production", so bring on the blanks!

e me privately w/any questions,

leigh ann

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i would appreciate you bring it to my attention if i did a mistake and not
the list. i bought maxwell ii tapes for everyone who sent that kind and for
the others they got sony. if i sent the wrong one by mistake i am sorry. i
am only human and no not appreciate a flame to the list. it got me upset
and i am not suppose to be. everyone seems to be wanting my blood pressure
to go up lately because i am not getting better but worse. oh well everyone
else's i am working on it and trying to get it out soon. missy

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don't ask me how i got there, but i found www.kissthisguy.com, a veritable
cornucopia of misheard lyrics....can you believe that apparently nobody in
the entire world has misheard an indigo girls lyric?  c'mon....i can't
really think of any off the top of my head personally, but i am sure that
we can get something going there! :-)

winona (just giving us something else to do between ig concerts....)

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hi indigo girls' fans!
my name is carol and i've written a script that is about you!  it's about two
women who follow the indigo girls around on their honor the earth tour.  we
hope to begin filming next june.  but right now my friend arnold and i are
going all around the country filming a documentary.  we would love to meet and
talk with you.  you can email us at rollerloon@aol.com or for a faster
response - call 818-951-0386
we start our tour july 20th in las vegas, then will spend the rest of the
summer going to farmington, nm, denver, topeka, kansas, baton rouge, atlanta
(of course), washington d.c., new jersey, michigan, wisconsin (green bay),
minnesota - minneapolis and bemidji, south dakota, montana, idaho, washington,
and oregon.  call or write and we will tell you when and where we will be.
you can hear us talk about this film and the ones we've done in the past.
hope to hear from you soon, even if you don't live in those states feel free
to call or email.
sincerely,
carol

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hey i found 4.5 in a record store today, its a used cd, is it something i
should get?
it was $8.99
v*

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at 09:15 pm 7/17/98 -0000, melissa singhaus wrote:
>i would appreciate you bring it to my attention if i did a mistake and not
>the list. i bought maxwell ii tapes for everyone who sent that kind and for
>the others they got sony.

why would you even have to buy tapes for anyone if they already
sent you a tape??  if they sent you a 90-min., you should send them
back their 90-min., not a 60-min.!!!!

i'm not trying to be rude, it's just that i don't appreciate the substitution.
that's all i have to say.

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about 2 minutes ago, i wrote:

>why would you even have to buy tapes for anyone if they already
>sent you a tape??  if they sent you a 90-min., you should send them
>back their 90-min., not a 60-min.!!!!

sorry y'all- didn't mean to send this to the whole list....

duh,

leigh ann

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in a message dated 98-07-17 22:00:35 edt, junebug@aeneas.net writes:

<< sorry y'all- didn't mean to send this to the whole list....

duh,
  >>

um, ya, you seem to have a problem with this....
v*

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hey, folks...
this may be really lame, but darn it, i'm going to go ahead and send it
anyway.

i was sitting here listening to n*i*s and i looked at the little booklet
(in between dancing and banging my head). *doink* it's a neat little
booklet! it's so much cooler than the other ones...
i love the little folk art in it. i like that the songs are handwritten
in there. i think that's really neat. just a thought. k.

sure beats the stupid sots booklet where words are missing and stuff.
hrumpf.

oh, and while i was listening to southland in the springtime i was
thinking what i usually think. i've never been down south (i live in
kalamazoo, mi). farthest south was kentucky (in 1982 for the world's
fair <g> i was 7) and missouri in 1995. the song makes me want to go
there, but i hear such bad things about it. and then i think, well is
the north that icky that emily wishes that wasn't born here? i don't get
this north/south thing. south=down home, north=hustle, bustle?  hmm. the
world is too big (yet in many ways it's small).
oh boy, time to go to bed... i'm getting weird. thanks for listening
y'all. (gotta love the south for that expression at the very least!)

peace,
amy

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hey ya'll~

here i sit, on a friday nite, in my bedroom typing away on my dad's laptop,
listening to soy on my cd player instead of live, at the lilith fair that's
going on an hour from here right now.  and why am i not there?  b/c i
constanly screw up, get myself in trouble, and then get "privledges" taken
away. and yes, ig inspiration in a priveledge, but i also consider it a
nesscesity...  ::::sob sob:::: ok, i'm over that venting rage now...

the point of this whole thing (yes, there really is one!) is that i am a
relative newbie to the list, have no boots, have no idea of what the boots i
want are, etc, etc, etc.  so if anyone would be kind enough to offer up their
assistance, i would be forever in debt and gratitude.  i have nothing to
trade, but would be willing to send tapes, postage, whatever.  thank you:+)

love and smiles,
~kristen

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ah yes indigo is everywhere..tonight i went to see the movie there's
something about mary (cameron diaz, matt dylan, ben stiller) and there's
these weird lil guys at the beginning who sing a song and one of the
lines is "his friends have tried to set him up with tiffany and
indigo..."
and i started giggling in the theatre..of course i was with my friends
so no one looked at me weird..they're used to it..also i found
out..emily has the same initials as my ex-best friend!!! it just occured
to me today cuz we always thought it was cool she was eas and i was
sea...oh well...

*hugs*

lamia
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>at 10:08 pm 7/17/98 edt, *val* wrote:
>>um, ya, you seem to have a problem with this....
>>v*

and i would just like to say:
this doesn't concern you, so please occupy you time with other interests!
and by the way, who gave you permission to judge me?

thank you kindly,
la

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july 17, 1988 -- the new orleans times-picanye

indigo girls pack power into small numbers

by vincent fumar

numbers aren't always a good indication of musical volume, if you ask the
indigo girls, a duo with a batch of songs and two guitars to carry it.

"we've had trouble convincing rock club owners that we can play in rock
clubs," said emily saliers. she and fellow guitarist and singer amy ray make
up the indigo girls. "when we go on tour, we don't play in folk houses. most
of our music in intense and driving enough to fit the bill in rock clubs.
the toughest part is convincing the owners and booking agents that we're
going to go over."

the indigo girls, who hail from atlanta, will appear tonight at carrollton
station. it won't be saliers first new orleans appearance, since she
attended tulane university for a couple of years and first went public with
her music here.

"i used to play at the penny post frequently, and also on a wtul folk show,"
she said. "so i got my exposure to playing publicly in new orleans. i kind
of got tired of the flooding and the heat, and i missed being near my folks.
so i transferred to emory in atlanta."

saliers and ray have know each other since elementary school, but it wasn't
until their appearance in a high school chorus that they actually sang
together. now they've been singing together for seven years, and have one
self-titled ep and an album, "strange fire," to their credit.

saliers reported that the duo is about to sign with a major record-label and
expects to be in the studio by october.

"we've been making it clear to the record company that it's essential for us
to maintain creative freedom, or it's just not worth it to sign," she said.
"we trust that they'll allow us to do what we're doing now, and maybe put
some fine musicians on the album to boost what we're doing. but we plan on
remaining unchanged. we don't plan on getting new haircuts or buying new
outfits."

with original songs, fine vocal harmonies and acoustic guitars, the two
don't like to be pigeonholed.

it's not like a couple of girls strumming guitars or whatever, doing folk
stuff," she said. "we do like to crank it up. we do like to play loud. we've
opened for so many different kinds of acts. there's something about our
music that fits into different kinds of shows."

"a lot of our audience is inter-generational. artists like suzanne vega and
tracy chapman have opened up a wider audience for acoustical music. there's
no pretension about our music. we like to keep it that way."

saliers cited bob dylan and joni mitchell as her chief musical influences,
and said ray's tastes are for "more rocking stuff," such as the
replacements, husker du and alex chilton. what they'll do tonight, though,
will be largely indigo girls material.

"for those people in new orleans who are familiar with our album, we'll
still be doing stuff from 'strange fire.' plus several new songs we've been
recording. i think our words are very personal and there's a give and take
between us and the audience.  we expect it to be a very high-energy set."

wth a new record deal on the brink and an uncompromising attitude toward it,
saliers was philosophical about the future of the indigo girls.

"we've known each other since elementary school and we ended up at the same
college. and we kept playing together all that time. there really haven't
been any setbacks at all, because we haven't had any expectations or desires
for great success."

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hey folks,

found this on the newsgroup...

-sherlyn

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date: fri, 17 jul 1998 20:31:27 -0400

hi
i was able to get tickets this morning for
the show in burlington, vt
they went on sale today-$25 each and general admission

pam

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yee-haw ya'll!! rock on *l*

*hugs*
lamia
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now this is cool!

it was just this past wednesday at lf in nyc that i saw my 10th indigo show
and it is their 10th year!  i feel so special!  i wish i had had ig music when
i was in hs in ct.  i went to an all girls boarding school called westover (if
you went there too email me!).  i feel kinda cheated that i was unable to bond
with me sister classmates to songs like ctf but oh well!

i am thinking ahead 10 years when i am a mother in my own right (not just a
godmother)  and my daugheters, god willing,  will grow up knowing all about
this kinda music and see that women as well as men can make it in this world
with just a little spunk and deep love of what they do.

lets hear it for the next 10 years!

woo hoo!!!!

babs

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date:         sat, 18 jul 1998 01:09:35 edt
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wow, that leigh ann girl is just a sweetie!!  aren't ya la?   and so
considerate too!
gosh, what lovely people i come in contact with each end everyday!
v*

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date:         sat, 18 jul 1998 15:17:20 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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folks,

please, take the private stuff to private mail.

-sherlyn
=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= a+e=ig
"time has a bad habit of flying - i was sleeping when it passed me by.
i was dreaming of what i would wear, when i got there..."
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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 22:19:01 pdt
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mike r. wrote:
maybe someone should put a boot cd discography up on the www? promo
stuff ect? it would solve the numerous questions about various other
titles - and maybe link it to people who would tape it for you...


if someone hasn't allready voluntered i'll do it. if everyone will email
me. i'll compile *hopefully eventually* a list of every ig show booted,
cd boots, etc. i know there's one for tori. it's really nice. someone (a
non-listee new to the girls) was just asking me about that the other
day!

lemme know..i'll need all ya'll to forward me your lists or addys.

*hugs*

lamia

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in a message dated 98-07-17 21:20:53 edt, msinghaus@msmisp.com (melissa
singhaus) writes:

<< it got me upset and i am not suppose to be. everyone seems to be wanting my
blood pressure to go up lately because i am not getting better but worse.  >>

who is *everyone*? that is a general term and using such implies that you are
speaking to each of us. i dont want your blood pressure to go up. infact, i
have never given your blood pressure a second thought. but honestly, the only
reason im writing anything at all is because it irks me that youre acting as
if you are being soooo burdened by all of this trading and discussion. give me
a break. you dont have to trade boots, nor do you have to read or write to the
list.
as for the boot issue...it is my opinion that if you are going to be a boot
trader, you should do so responsibly. that means dealing with mistakes when
they happen. we are all human, and errors are inevitable. but it seems to me
that one would make this trade right instead of whining about personal
problems that really have nothing to do with the person whos trade *you*
messed up.
just my thoughts. flame away.

*julie*

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date:         sat, 18 jul 1998 00:30:58 -0400
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at 01:09 am 7/18/98 edt, val kugle wrote:
>wow, that leigh ann girl is just a sweetie!!  aren't ya la?   and so
>considerate too!
>gosh, what lovely people i come in contact with each end everyday!
>v*

yeah, and as long as we're being honest, let's review:
you stuck your nose in where it didn't belong, and now you're not
only judging me publically, but you're flaming me publically.

i will not dignify your statement(s) with a response from now on,
because frankly, you have a *nasty* attitude for a junior high
school student!  your momma should wash your mouth out!
or maybe she needs to "b.s." ya!!  (right bar?!?!?)

i'm sorry, sherlyn, i know i'm being tacky by stooping to
her level; i won't do it anymore.  out of respect for the list
i will not respond publicly to val's immature junior-high
school remarks any further...

so bring 'em on privately, ***sweetie***....you don't scare me.

l.a.

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woooooooooo hoooooooooo

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at 01:41 am 7/18/98 -0400, barbara wrote:
>woooooooooo hoooooooooo
>


yeeeeeeeeehaawwwwww!!!!!!!!!

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date:         fri, 17 jul 1998 22:52:28 pdt
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apparently the war that got started has got everyone on edge,
understandably, and we're getting mad about just about anything now. i
found a website accidentally and it inspired me prehaps we should all
take it to heart:

immerse yourself in love

very simple, very profound.

lamia


"you want to hurt me. what do you gain by hurting?"
--garrison starr

"a moment of peace is worth every war behind us.."
--e.s.

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> the song makes me want to go there, but i hear such bad things about it.

like what?

>and then i think, well is the north that icky that emily wishes that wasn't
born here? i don't get this north/south thing. >south=down home,
north=hustle, bustle?  hmm. the world is too big (yet in many ways it's small).

i don't think it's that the north is so icky, it's that emily considers the
south home ("there's no place like home and none more pleasin'...") and
wishes that she could truly call herself a native.  as one who has lived in
both atlanta and boston, i'd say that the differences are mainly in the
weather, though southerners *do* have a tendency to be more welcoming than
northerners (*i* think - don't flame me, i like the north too, but it seems
a bit more sarcastic up here).  i've heard northerners say that they like
the north because "it has seasons."  well, the south has seasons, too, it
just doesn't get so cold!  the south in the spring is *beautiful*, with all
the flowers starting to bloom and such, and it's warm enough to wear shorts
by the end of march.  it's not so hot and humid as it is in the summer, so
it's really the best time to get outside and enjoy the beauty of nature.

maybe i've gone off on an uninteresting tangent...  i'll say that i'm
currently finding out that the northern summers are much more bearable and
enjoyable (you yankees don't know what humidity is!) than southern ones.
there is no better or worse, and i don't think that was the girls' point in
the song.  but when you're on the road touring, you begin to appreciate all
the joys of home!

just my random $.02   thanks for listening!

va :)

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date:         sat, 18 jul 1998 02:47:20 -0400
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subject:      sessions info

hey all.
just got back from lilith in camden, nj....awesome show!!!
even better than monday's at the arts center.
anyway here's some info about suffragette sessions.

september 2, electric factory in philadelphia, pa
tickets on sale through ticketmaster starting
july 24.  see y'all there.
jk

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for crying out loud people, can we please be friendly on the listserve?
always, not just today?  would you speak that rudely to someone to their face?
think about it, it's really tiresome.
as for the comment on southland in the springtime, i agree that the song is
about the importance of home.  the imagery in the lyrics is beautiful, you
don't have to be from the south/familiar with the south to appreciate it.
kathy

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here you go!  latest fan club emai.

just back from camden lilith...wow it was incredible!

love,  karen

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<excerpt>


hello!  i am very happy to report that it is a sunny day again here at
murmurs headquarters in vancouver, bc.  we are enjoying blue skies,
warm temperatures and every now and again a refreshing breeze.


there's not too much to report this week but, let's get started any
way!


lilith fair news...

the tour hits camden, nj at the blockbuster-sony music

entertainment center today, and will spend the weekend (july 18th &
19th) in columbia, md for two shows at the merriweather post pavilion.
everyone involved has monday off.  as per usual, check out the lilith
web site for tons more stuff!


sarah and lilith in the press...

check out an article on sarah and lilith fair on the abc news web site
at:

http://www.abcnews.com/sections/us/dailynews/seneca_lilith

here you'll find a couple of realvideo news clips of some lilith fair
performers, as well as one of sarah accepting the elizabeth cady
stanton visionary award from new york governor george e. pataki earlier
this week on *tuesday, july 14th*. elizabeth cady stanton was a
visionary who penned the 'declaration of

sentiments' which laid the foundation for women's equality. congrats to
sarah! : ) later that day, sarah accepted a special plaque from arista
records

(her u.s. label) commemorating sales of over 3 millions copies of her

grammy and juno award winning album, surfacing.

http://www.sarahmclachlan.com - nettwerk's official sarah web site
with

sarah news, tour dates, fan club info, bio and discography, a photo
gallery

and quicktime videos and sound files!!!


trivial info...

surfacing was released just over a year ago this month!


newsletter 10...

what do you want to see in the next issue of murmurs? we are working
hard putting together the next newsletter (issue 10). if you have any
comments or suggestions, please e mail or write to us!  we would love
to have your input. if you e mail us, please include the following
text: <bold>murmurs 10 suggestions</bold> in the header.

thanks so much for reading!

have a fun and safe weekend!

until next time, adieu!


jennifer gray

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does anyone have a good boot with a bunch of amy's soc's?  if you do,
could i possibly get a copy?  thanks so much!  e-mail me!

love,
karen :-)

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        --emily saliers aka goddess (indigo girls)
"your actions will follow you full circle round."
        --amy ray aka goddess (indigo girls)
"and maybe you can keep me from never being happy,
but you're not gonna stop me from having fun!"
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"i felt like kerokeroppi on crack."  -- me :-)
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wait...i am confused, i thought that if you send someone a tape to dubb,
they're supposed to return that same tape.  isn't that how it usually
works?  at least that's what i usually do...

just a thought.

love,
karen :-)

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i'm coming over from england for the newport folk festival (sunday only), and
was wondering if any of you are going and want to meet up.

also 4.5 is more easy to get hold of here and isn't too expensive. if anyone
who is going to the festival wants me to get them a copy, e-mail me direct

love
gilly

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a long long time ago, kate mulhern wrote:

>think of how you would feel if you knew a
>bunch of strangers were gossiping about a woman you were walking around
>with one day.

hoo boy, lemme tell you, it feels *terrible*.  just this week, i was
chatting with another girl who works at the same day camp as i do, and
she was joking about how guys suck (take no offense, my snag-ly list
menfolk, i loves yous). i laughed and said, "yeah, well, i don't like
too many of 'em anyways, so..."
she got quiet and said, "uhm, yeah, i kinda heard that..."

turns out, someone said somethin bout something else (or however that
line goes) and my *private* life is running rampant through the halls of
horizon's activities center.  they all know, they see me everyday, look
me in the face, and think "i know about *her*"... they talk about me
amongst themselves, speculate about who they think is my girlfriend
(here's the one funny part of all this-- they think it's carol
<chickenwomyn>because she's visited me at work before)...
one girl has told others, "watch out for jill... she might hit on
you."... the male camp counselor with whom i share a homeroom has been
quoted as saying, "you know about her, don't you?"  and all this in the
company of children, who shouldn't be hearing about anyone's
relationships or who's sleeping with who, or who's a flaming dyke and of
whom everyone should be afraid.
let me *assure* you, firsthand, it is humiliating and depressing and
alienating to know that people are talking about you behind your back,
piecing together your life story from fragments and coincidence and
overactive imaginations.  and on top of that, to be nice and normal to
your face, to act as if they don't hold this knowledge.  it can't go
both ways-- either you choose to sneak around, speculate, and hurt, or
you choose to respect and genuinely get to know a person and allow them
to disclose things to you themselves.
write to me if you want further elaboration on how much it sucks.

jill

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hey guys!  be sure and check your email!  do it!  do it!  or else you'll
miss five, yes, that's right, not three, not four, but five dozen emails
on what amy said and then what emily said and then what one chick said
(ooh dang i said the c word) and what another chick blowtorched her
with, and then what a flame-retardent snag said, and then, and then,
and......
blahblahblah blah blah blah blah blah blahdee blah dee blah blah blah
dee blah blaaaah blaaah blah blah blah blah blha blha blah blah blah
blah blah yap yap yap yap yap yammmer yap yap yap yap yip yip yip
yippeee blah blah blah blechhhh blek blekkk hmmmm hummmm hrrrrr
harrrrumphhhh hmmm hrrrr grrrrr grrrrr *grrrrrrrr* flame flame flame
*flame* flame! flame! flame!!!  snap crackle pop crackle crunch snap
snap snap crackle pop pop pop snap crackle crackle ow ow ow! ouch ehrm
uhm ah me oh meee my ohh oh ahhhh arggghhhh augghhhhh
aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yip yip yip yiiip yap yapper yaaaaap yawp
yawp yap blah blah blah blah blah dee blah dee blah.

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in a message dated 98-07-18 03:44:30 edt, karen writes:

<< wait...i am confused, i thought that if you send someone a tape to dubb,
they're supposed to return that same tape.  isn't that how it usually
works?  at least that's what i usually do... >>

sometimes if people are doing a lot of tapes of the same thing,
they tape them in advance and then send them the one they taped.
i think some folks feel it saves time.....  pretty much
everyone sends maxell ii tapes...it's sort of the official boot tape.
my guess is missy was getting a lot of both kinds and just
slipped up....unfortunate, but it seems like an honest mistake.
i know people who have gotten burned the other way.
..they sent boots for blanks and got crappy blanks for the good
ones they sent....such are the perils of boot trading, eh ?

so for all of you newbie traders ......
                                                               maxell ii,
at all times, forever...
unless otherwise noted.
:)
claire

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date:         sat, 18 jul 1998 02:44:20 pdt
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god damn it,
stop flaming each other publicly.
for the love of god, this is not a soap opera and we do not want to be
privy to all y'all's arguments.

rrrrar.

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are you forgetting there's a real live breathing thinking feeling person
behind those words on the screen, and that you are insulting somebody
and hurting someone??????  come on guys, do you know each other?  no. if
it were that you knew the person you are disagreeing with, and had a
long line of specific reasons/character flaws/times they dissed
you/etc., then i'd condone the veritable insult-fest going on.  but you
don't know these people, you just know what they've written, their
opinion on one subject.
how can you so vehemently hate a stranger?????
i dont' get it.
my apologies if i sound self-righteous... it was only after my fair
share of flame wars that i came to the above rationalization.

jill

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date:         sat, 18 jul 1998 13:38:21 +0100
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if i can just quote a wee bit of the article:

>ln: i was reading some of your diary notes on the internet from your
>trip to mexico. you and emily are both very good writers. [she laughs.]


does anyone know where on the internet? i'd be really interested to see
amy's travel diaries cos a lot of her songs (chickenman, world falls) seem
to come from all of that.

sharon

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anyone looking for the performing songwriter magazine - i found it at borders
book store - just trying to help

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hey folks,

sharon asked where the online travel diary is:
>does anyone know where on the internet? i'd be really interested to see
>amy's travel diaries cos a lot of her songs (chickenman, world falls) seem
>to come from all of that.

it's actually up on the epic site - you can get there
through http://www.indigogirls.com, or go direct at:
http://www.epiccenter.com/epiccenter/indigogirls/artistnotes.qry

the diary's been up there for awhile, i think... a
year or more, even?  not sure.  i wish the epic folks
had their web presence together more!

ah well...
sherlyn
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i was dreaming of what i would wear, when i got there..."
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just one more thing to add...when you flame, you do it out of anger, i have
done it, sometimes anger kicks into overdrive.

remember, you very well may meet some of these people you are criticize.
last night i met alison, apparently we had a "flame war" some time back over
pda's, i really don't remember.  she was so apologetic, and i'm telling her
"forget it, i don't even remember",  which was true.  then we got to talking
about "why" (pda's are inappropriate) its amazing, in person, you can
explain your feelings, the person is looking you in the face, sees your
expressions, knows its not "hatred" speaking.  my "why" on pda's was-"take a
look at my daughter and you will see why i feel this way" and both her and
jennifer said, yes, i guess when you are a mother you see things different.

anyway, my point is this.  look at your typewritten words before you hit
send.  imagine yourself on the recieving end.

a moment of peace is worth every war behind us!

love,  k

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> behind those words on the screen, and that you are insulting somebody nd
> hurting someone??????  come on guys, do you know each other?  no.

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at last, something i know about ;)

sometimes when i set up a trade, a person will send the wrong length of
tape...i don't know why...maybe they couldn't find the correct size.  but
dubbing a tape onto the wrong size tape is not a favor to anyone...like a 90
min tape to a 100 min tape...leaves all that air time and makes switching
sides difficult as you have to rewind the b side before you can hear it if you
have lots of room on the a side...it's not condusive to listening, ya know :)
so when people don't send the wrong size tapes i switch them but always tell
them...(and then i send a dead fish along with their boot...no, just
kidding:).  but there is a lot of stuff with dubbing and ya gotta play it
easy.

and to the *three* guys on the list who are currently stiffing me for tapes
(one is a cdr) i hope you know my estimation of your whole gender is receeding
from my very opinionated mind ;)

jude :)

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ig content...
well gonna give a review a whirl here stick with me could get
ugly.camden nj july 17 first and foremost it was very hot. if memory
serves me right they opened with shame on you, they did galileo almost
right away.these arent in any order just what the brain remembers. the
band song the  new amy song,tried to be true,get out the map,cut it
out,water is wide with sarah, and closer with the whole kit and
kaboodle.what they were wearing-amy had on one of those silky multi
designed shirts (blueish)
please forgive me but i cant remember the pants and em had on a white
tshirt with something on that these little eyes couldnt make out.but
when they came out with sarah
amy changed into a grey tshirt and those ripped to sh*t camoflouge pants
(personal fav of allison sitting next to me) they didnt do much talking
during the set but the typical thanks ya'll.
i guess that about raps it up. oh yeah love emily's little jamming dog
on her amp.big thanks for karen frey for letting me use that xtra
ticket. well off to merriweather.
karen (#2)

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hey!

first, i was wondering if anyone had any info on the burlington show. i am
planning on attending, and am attepting to get tickets, though
ticketbastard hasn't been much of a help.  (called this morning and the
woman had no clue.)

second, is it customary for listees to try to gather at newport?  i will
be attending with a fellow listee (hey elaine!) and would like to put some
more faces with names...

thanks. :)

kelly


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hi

is anyone going to newport from montreal,ottawa, or anywhere in vermont
who has 2 places in their car?  my friend and i would really appreciate
a lift!

thanks!

isabelle :)

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em had on khakis during the set, amy, jeans.  found out that with 4 listees
sitting together (karen, karen, jennifer and alison) i am the only emily
person.

i wanted to scream happy birthday to her, but there were so many people.
incredibly warm.  you sweat just sitting!  got up close to get pictures,
hope they turn out good!

thank you karen #2 for the extra ticket to merriwether!!

heading off to meet k2 as soon as i post this and the next and curl my hair.

love to all...

karen

oh, em had a had on when they all came back on at the end, a baseball cap,
couldn't see what it said, but she looked great : )

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anyone going to lilith today, look for me..i'm wearing a white polo, it
says "birdies for babies" with a cute little stork on it.  light green
shorts.  say hello : ) if you see me, i'll be with karen from the list!

karen

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just a quick question...

i was wondering if anyone else at a non-ig lilith took a picture of the
autograph table by the tower booth just because amy and emily had signed
it or does that classify as one of those "you might be an obsessed fan
if...." sort of things?

kelly, who is waiting to get her pictures back...:)
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i ordered tickets through ticketbastard over the phone this morning to
the suffragette sessions show at bogart's in cincinnati. although tm
usually allows me the option of receiving my tickets via the mail, ups,
or will call, they said that for this show, they were only allowing will
call pickups. was anyone else who ordered over the phone told the same
thing?

i guess my gripe is that i am in kansas city and there is no guarantee
that i will be able to make the show in cincinnati, and therefore
without possession of the tickets, i can't sell them to anyone if i
can't go. if others were told that tickets could be mailed to them or
delivered ups, then i'm going to try to change my situation.

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wooooooooo hooooooooo
look for barbara and jules too
bar is blonde, teal tee and shorts
jules 'lanta braves cap
white tee w/stuff written on front
(she's not here so i don't know what is written on it)
we'll both be smiling and singing and dancing!!!!!!!!
we have seats in the pavilion
hope soooo bad to meet people from da list....

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it is still morning here by a half hour. i am trying to fix that trade
problem with the lady and i am not whining about everyone on the list and
trades. sorry if i seemed i was. i shouldn't have said everyone. i meant
everyone not on the list that i deal with in everyday life is and the tapes
are not a bother to me. i just haven't had time to do them all. so let's
drop the subject of traders. it does no one any good to be flaming. she had
a right to be angry. i was the one who made the mistake. i asked people a
head of time if i could replace their 60 min. tape the minority said
alright so i did it with everyone's. missy

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hey--i've been on the phone all morning and on line all morning looking for
more info on this tour.  the show in milwaukee is listed on sale now.  so
are the shows in cincinatti and detroit and portland, maine.  still no word
on chicago shows.  i've called the riviera theater who still has no idea
when they will go on sale.  the ticketmaster agent on the phone also had no
idea, as the chicago shows are still not listed in their system.  online,
the shows were listed all over th place.  the detroit show was under indigo
girls.  the portland, cincy and minneapolis (mn was not listed as on sale
yet) shows were under suffragette sessions.  and the milwaukee show was
listed under suffragette sessions featuring amy ray and emily saliers.  so
if you plan to keep checking online, make sure you check all three areas.
if anyone finds chicago on sale info please post!

as a bitchy side note--you can't know how frustrating it is to have to
remain subbed to the list and wade through all the garbage to try and find
tour information--the real reason the list is here.  if you do have tour
info can y'all make that clear in the subject line so those of us looking
for just that can delete all the other stuff.  thanks.  see you at the
shows.

greg

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okay, just to set this straight for once an for all so that
people *understand* why my panties are in a wad:
(i'm tired of being flamed by people who don't understand the situation)

missy wrote:
>i asked people ahead of time if i could replace their 60 min. tape<

now, she's talking about the fact that she asked people ahead of time
if she could replace their 90 minute tape with a 60 minute tape, so
that it would fit better on the tape.  i do remember her posting that
question to the list, actually.  but i didn't think much about it because
it didn't apply to me.  you see, i *did* send her a 60-minute tape.
it was a maxell 60 min. tape.  but what i got back was a sony 60 min.
tape.  now, maybe i overreacted a little...and i apologize for involving
the whole list in this.  but does that give anyone the right to publicly
flame me?  i really don't think so.  it's like someone said to me:  my
original post on this whole thing was not a flame.  i didn't even mention
the person's name..sure, you could tell i was upset, but if the person i was
talking about hadn't posted to the list, none of you would have even
known who she was.  but instead, here i sit reading emails from people
who feel the need to tell me what my "problem" is.  geez.

i will be happy to delete your flames,

leigh ann
(who will not be discussing this further)

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>hey--i've been on the phone all morning and on line all morning looking
for
>more info on this tour.  the show in milwaukee is listed on sale now.
so
>are the shows in cincinatti and detroit and portland, maine.

i'm not getting the milwaukee show as being listed as "on sale now" no
matter how many times i refresh my browser. with regard to the other
shows, i do see them as being on sale and available now. i thought
milwaukee goes on sale monday. did you confirm the milwaukee show online
or on the phone?

eddie

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okay, get happy!

my friend arin (yee-haw!) and i used my fancy computer program to generate
some anagrams.  we put in "emily saliers", and we got some hollerin' funny
ones.  for example:

lies are slimy (em = truth and justice.)
sari semi yell (wasn't there a sari on the list?  is she still here?)
similarly see (emily speaks for us all.)
relay similes (being an english major, this one was very significant.)
misery allies (when you're down, who do you go to?  emily.)
a messier lily (i have no idea.  it was just fun.)
i merely sails (ditto.)
i relay smiles (she smiles, we smile.)
ray smiles lie  (sometimes, when amy smiles, it's fake.)  :)
ray lies miles (on the bus, between cities...)
semi silly era (describes the last few days on the list.)  :)

there were, as you may imagine, very few for amy ray.  but we tried.

smiles and love,
j u s t i n  a n d  a r i n

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just so everyone knows...i'm not in junior high...i'm 19...and i'm trying to
work out this little misunderstanding with ms. la...thank you...and sorry for
nigc.  i'm done now i swear.
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date:         sat, 18 jul 1998 12:28:39 -0400
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hey, who's all going to the ig concert at bogarts?  i got my tickets today
and am sooooo xcited!!!!!  hope to see some of ya'll there.

j&t

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date:         sat, 18 jul 1998 12:36:14 -0400
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hey, it seems that someone long ago mentioned an up close picture of amy's
tattoo on her arm.  does anyone remember this?  better yet, does anyone
know where i can fynd this picture?
thanx!!!!!

j&t

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>i can answer your question for you.  i work for "ticketbastard", please
>dont hate me for this, it is a job ($$$$$).  bogart's only sells will
call
>shows, so it is their policy, not ticketmasters.  you can't blame them
for
>this one.  ha!!!!  we have to sell according to the facility's
policies, so
>if you have a complaint, you must contact bogart's regarding their
policy.


ok, i won't blame you for the will-call only policy. and i won't blame
you for the fact that ticketbastard assessed 25% "convenience" charge on
the price of each ticket, which most people will agree is bullshit. i'm
all for someone making a buck, but making $5 off a $20 ticket is crap,
especially when tm isn't even going to drop them in the mail for me. a
10-15% gratuity doesn't seem too unreasonable, but 25% is screwed. i
guess i can't complain because that's the way it's always been with tm
and they aren't going to change. those idiots charged an $8.25
"convenience" charge on a $30 ticket (27.5%) last year at an outlet for
one concert i attended. that's fucked up.

eddie

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date:         sat, 18 jul 1998 09:51:46 pdt
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>i was wondering if anyone else at a non-ig lilith took a picture of the
>autograph table by the tower booth just because amy and emily had
signed
>it or does that classify as one of those "you might be an obsessed fan
>if...." sort of things?

ha.  well, some of the indigohioans (no names mentioned, we know who we
are) were thinkin' about taking the *entire table*!  how's that for
obsession? ;)
jill

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hey!

ok, so i answered my last post on burlington..i got the number for the box
office and called (the number is 802/863-5966 in case anyone else is
interested) and will have my ticket in my hot little hands probably by
next week....

anyone from the capital district/southern vt looking to carpool?  i will
be coming from albany and wouldn't mind sharing the ride with someone.
(it's quite a ways from here.)  the lengths i go to for the girls......but
it's worth it.  :)

kelly

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look, ma, no flames!!!

mon 8/24, detroit mi-- tickets went onsale 10 am friday.  they are
general admission by floor (meaning if you get a main floor ticket, you
can sit anywhere on that main floor.  ditto for balcony... balcony
ticket holders cannot sit on the main floor, so get your tickets soon).
they are $23.50 plus a ticketma$ter handling fee of $4.50 and a mailing
charge of $2.51.  ridiculous.  charge-by-phone at (248) 645-6666.

sun 8/30, cincinnati oh-- tickets went onsale 10 am today (saturday).
they are general admission also.  i don't know the tm ohio number, but
cleveland's tm number is (216) 241-5555, they can tell you where to
call.  or call bogarts' box office, mon-sat 11-5 (513)281-8400.  bogarts
holds maybe 1000-2000 people, so, again, get your tickets soon.

mon 8/24, cleveland oh-- no ticket info available yet.  the woman at the
agora box office (mon-fri 10-5:30, 216-881-6700) said to call back next
week for ticket info.

jill

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hey y'all,

just wanted to share two little cool ig moments...  (hopin' all the
flamin' and fightin' and b*tchin' and sh*t is dyin' down...)

a few days ago, my clock radio was on.  i wasn't really listenin' to it.
then i realized, this station sucks!  and i had had it on that station for
several months, just because i don't ever listen to it, just wake up to
it.  it's my alarm clock...  so, i turn the dial and go to put it on my
favorite local public radio station, wyep, which is known to frequently
play ig... well, whaddya know, i get to it and galileo is just beginning!
i don't particularly like galileo live, but i love the album version.  i
get all giddy and happy to hear ig on the radio, i feel all special
because i caught it, blah, blah, blah...

on another note, i also heard "followin' my compass" at the grocery store
then a day later, and i was so happy.  love kristen.  love to hear emily
in the grocery store.  somethin' so cool about hearin' them in public.  i
wonder if that ever happens to amy or emily... they're walkin' in the food
market or whereever public and hear *themselves* jauntily singin' least
complicated over the music system.  i'm sure it's happened at least once.
i wonder if they freak out, like think it's weird.  or, if they try to
hide.  (i don't know what my reasoning is for that possibility)  or, if
they just ignore it and pretend they're just a fellow shopper (which, of
course, they are)  or, if they're happy and proud.  or, if they're excited
(like me) and bounce and sing along.  or if they're not like me a
completlely deranged lunatic who thinks of twenty questions about a song
on a pa system...  really, i'm just bein' silly about the whole thing.  i
don't really care, it's not gonna turn my world upside-down...  i just
wonder...  anyway, that was one hell of a tangent (beat that one
bethany!!! ;) :p)

so, my second ig radio moment was yesterday (this all happened in the last
few days, why i'm postin' about it, they just keep poppin' up...) i was
flippin' around on the dial in the car.  my partner was just about to pop
a tape in when i tuned into good ol' 91.3 wyep... and yep, there was ig
again.  'cept this time, it was about halfway through joking.  i turned it
up and was happy!!!  i love this song!  and they played it at boalsburg!!!
wooo-hooo!!!  anyway, the funny part was at the end the dj said: "and that
was the indigo girls, from their album "rites of *passion*" !!!  oh god!
i laughed!  it was so hilarious.  i figured he just got confused by all of
amy's passion in joking... :)  :)

well, thanks for puttin' up with me, y'all!

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -amy ray

-my life is more than a vision -emily saliers

-i am a problem child/ i've been wild all my days/ all my anger and my
rage/ my senses said it would lead me astray/ i said go, go, go -a.r.

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date:         sat, 18 jul 1998 10:24:56 pdt
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oh yeah, forgot to add this:

sun 8/30 cincinnati oh-- special guest shonen knife. (!)

jill


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okay...i'm ecstatic cuz i just got back from buyin' my suffragette
sessions ticket.  heh heh...trucked my arse an hour and a half up to
bowling green...goin' 80 down the highway like some deranged
lunatic...winders open, hair flyin' in the wind...thinkin' "please god,
i deserve this. i've had a really shitty week...just let me get a damn
ticket (in case you're wonderin', i just found out this morning at 11
that they went on sale...)!"  i made it...heh heh...yeah, baby. bring on
the suffragettes...it's gonna kick so hard.  i've never been to
bogart's, though i've heard a lot about it.  i'm lookin' forward to it.
as a side note...when i called bogart's this morning, i heard the
listing for next month.  k's choice will be playing there on august
11th, with special guests ~~ litany.  those of you who won't be at the
bethlehem musikfest (the i.g. show is the same day) should check it out.
i was all excited until i realized i'd be spending the day with amy and
emily...heh heh...then i was *more* excited.  those of you who were at
the columbus lilith will probably remember litany.  that infamous
village stage band that caught a certain woman's attention. mm hmm.  i
can't decide if i dig them or not.  heh heh...how did the rest of you
like 'em?  i found them kinda annoying, but must admit that they had a
good beat goin' on.

ah well...that's all for now.
take care,
bethany :)


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hey y'all,

i'm post happy today...  so, a looooooooong while back i picked up a boot
in a non-listee-trade way (at least a year ago, if not two.  i've wanted
to post about it ever since then, but am a little slow about some things
as you see...).  well, it's a boot  i had never heard of.  i was walkin'
through "campus" and a dude sellin' used music also had several boots for
sale, one on which was ig, which surprised the gee-golly-heck outta me!
the guy told me "uh, yeah, they're opening for the dead." i didn't
necessarily believe him, but i didn't care...  i listened to a bit of it.
excellent sound quality, better 'n any boots i'd heard before. impulsively
i laid out eight whopping bucks for it. this guy still sells music on
campus and still has this boot for sale.  i know it was horrible and wrong
to buy it, but i did, and there ain't no goin' back... i'm evil and this
man's in the same situation, so seems i helped him profit a lot... i'm
sorry, i'm not perfect...

anyway, that's my intro to the situation.  i have two things to mention
about it.  okay three.  first, i read on the list (in august of last year
in fact) that eight songs from some "ig opening for the dead" show is
included on the cd boot "history of us" (tracks 2-9)  i wonder if it's the
same show as i have.  (i don't have that boot, obviously)  i know they
only opened a time or two for the dead (was it two? three? i'm thinkin'
two...) so, chances are it could be the same.  does anyone know how many
"ig openin' for the dead" boots are floatin' around? i'm not concerned
about havin' something rare, i was just curious if more than one show got
booted.  i think the show was in oregon in 93, but i don't know the exact
date.  anyone know any exact dates?...  okay that was *one* thing.
really, it was. :)

the second thing is just funny...  prolly no one ventured to read this far
in my crazy, boring post, but if you did, this is funny...  least i've
always thougt so...  that, and it helps identify what darn boot i'm even
talkin' about...

ok, the set list that came with this boot is atrocious!  apparently the
guy (or someone who works for/with him) wrote the liner, but has very
little familiarity with ig at all.  seems like the just went through
listenin' to the songs and wrote what they thought the title would be.
so anyway, what follows are some notes and two set lists: the first is
what my liner looks like, the second is the actual songs on this boot.

lastly, (this is my third topic) i should mention a few things....this
boot also has four other songs on it not from the dead show performance.
they sound more like from the mid-eighties in a small club performance.
overall, yes, the boot is excellent, for anyone who is wondering.  i was
most surprised that the set was so long!!!  it's on a 60 minute tape and
there are 10 songs on it from the dead performance.  i guess it was common
to have long dead openers.  i obviously have no idea.  oh, and, you can
also really tell that they're in a huge stadium (the crowd sounds sooooo
far away) and they're kinda nervous about it.  it's so sweet.  so, here're
the set lists:


my liner reads:

side a:                         side b:

least complicated               princess of darkness (cont'd)
salelao                         chicken man
token                           closer
city of angels                  melissa
hammer & nail                   land of
virginia wolfe                  mama & papa
princess of darkness


wow! and the actual set list (which i'm sure many of you can figure out,
except for two songs...):

side a:                         side b:

least complicated               prince of darkness (end only, no middle)
galileo                         chickenman
joking                          closer to fine
welcome me                      (no longer from "dead" show)
hammmer and a nail              melissa
virginia woolf                  land of canaan
pushin' the needle too far      love of the common people
prince of darkness (beginning)  crazy game

i think perhaps a big part of what contributed to my impulse buying was
seeing "melissa" on there.  ain't nothing like hearing amy ray sing your
name...  even if you are a gypsy. :)  well, anyone got anything to
say/add/help me out with/yell at me about this boot?  anyone...

peace, melissa

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in a message dated 98-07-16 17:52:54 edt, you write:

<< it's not people like me who give indigo girls fans a bad
name >>

maybe it's just me....but since when have we had a bad name??? i think parts
of that e-mail were inappropriate, yes. but we have a bad name???


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so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
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i got a ticket to the bogarts show!!!  i guess i'll be picking it up at
will call at 11am... (that sucks, but anyway...).  so, jill and bethany, i
know y'all are going.  anyone else?

see you on the 30th!

love,
karen :-)

ps- high (like $7) service fees.  yuck.

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hey folks-

just thought i'd let those with tickets (like me) know that the first
ever newport folk tour in atlanta at lakewood on july 30 has been
*cancelled*...  :-(

dar, nanci, joan, etc -- <poof!> ... not gonna happen...  :-(

<grrrr!>  <sniffle>  :-(

if you bought your ticket either online or on the phone -- to get a
refund:
1) make a good dark copy of your tickets to keep for proof
2) mail the original tickets (with your name, addy, phone #, credit card
info) back to ticketmaster:

     ticketmaster southeast
     attn: phone services
     po box 471
     orlando, fl 32802-0471

3) and tm will credit your credit card account... some day... *minus* a
*$3.00* service chg *per ticket*... <grrrr!>


(extremely bummed down south... staring at my 2nd row center ticket --
for a concert which is never gonna happen...)
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in case anyone cares..

the radio guy lied to me. mmhmm, its true. that "lost" episode of ellen was in
fact nottttt on last wednesday night. and see, funny thing is, i knew this. i
have this little fluorescent post it on my monitor that says "july 22" to
remind me that the ellen i havent seen will be on that day. and then the radio
guy says something else, and there i go being gullible. well. :p  so anyway,
as i said, if anyone is interested (which im beginning to think nobody is, ah
well..), the episode will be on july 22, or this wednesday.

take care all and if at all possible, stay inside in the a/c! its 107 in
northern california! puh.

lovetara. :)

                      ...i allow these words to be the past somehow...

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i'm very interested in info on this also as i live in vermont. i have had no
luck whatsoever so far with ticket info!  it certainly hasn't hit our crappy
newspaper's weekend edition!

keep the info flowing!

as for meeting in newport, that wouldn't work for me at least! i live right
outside of burlington!!! but i would love to know who is who is coming!!!!

thanks

diane

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date: saturday, july 18, 1998 9:52 am
subject: burlington, vt info?/newport


>hey!
>
>first, i was wondering if anyone had any info on the burlington show. i am
>planning on attending, and am attepting to get tickets, though
>ticketbastard hasn't been much of a help.  (called this morning and the
>woman had no clue.)
>
>second, is it customary for listees to try to gather at newport?  i will
>be attending with a fellow listee (hey elaine!) and would like to put some
>more faces with names...
>
>thanks. :)
>
>kelly
>
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maybe we are just reading too much into what's just a coincidence?

just relax and let the music flow around you.  ya can't simultaneously
do that *and* worry about which album what's coming from and when and
where what was played last, and for whom, and why it might be happening
like this....

"simmer down"
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claire/mme dido/binky wrote:
>unless they are peeps.
>then they need to be eaten.

...or blowtorched, dipped in liquid nitrogen, given camel filters, and
then closely monitored for adverse reactions.  go to:
http://www.learnlink.emory.edu/peep/smoking.html to see the sugary
little chickadees have a go at the ol' cancer sticks :)

jill

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        just wondering... does anyone have any information on the chiapis benefit in
atlanta, the 1st and 2nd of august?  i really wanna go, and ill be there, but
i dont know if i can get in, cuz eddies attic is a bar, and i am only 18.  any
help out there???


thanks,
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hi!  my name is debi and i am new here.  i like the indigo girls
recently because i bought shaming of the sun and liked shame on you.
get out the map is also good.

ne way, about me, i am 15 and live in kansas.  just to clear things up
early, i worship satan.  i hope this is okay with you people.  i am a
good person and would not do any harm.  it is just that my mom is
baptist and i do not believe in a single god.  so satan was the answer
for me.

i have a question.  are they lesbians?  i was wondering because of that
line about the beautiful ladies and my friend tiffini told me that.

my other musical interests are marilyn manson (a god, in my opinion) and
the spice girls.  my 10 year old sister likes hanson, but i think they
are bad.

and i want to go to an indigo girl concert, but my mom won't let me. :(
she heard that they swear in their music and that they might be gay.

so, i am here!  i love the indigo girls! !  !  ! ! !

debi (aka debs)

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i am sorry, but i have two more questions about indigo girl.

1) what are they're real names?
2) do they sing that song about being closer to fine?

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hey folks....

in a word.....chill!!!!!

next time you're in the mood to flame, spend the time instead listening to
emily sing "you and me of the 10,000 wars".....

we're all friends here, with a common interest....

peace y'all.....
tim

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hey folks,

in point form...

* i've been keeping track and so far we've got definite ticket
information for the following suffragette dates: burlington,
detroit, milwaukee, minneapolis, cincinatti, norfolk and
philadelphia.  this means we need details for the remaining
dates: portland, cleveland, chicago (both nights), new york.
if anybody has this info please post...

* we might start seeing some changes in the way the list runs
soon, as i just got a note from one of the netspace admins
saying that they're upgrading the list server software to the
newest version.  the new version has some nifty features, it
should be good.  if there are any significant changes i'll let
you all know.  i will probably be making some other changes to
the list setup soon too... i'll keep you all informed...

* the privacy debate - we seem to have moved past the flaming
to the next stage, which appears to be preaching.  i'd
actually prefer to let the entire thing drop altogether, if
that can be done...

* the trading debate - again, take a deep breath, step back.
this is something that really should be sorted out in private
email...

thanks.  i think that's it... probably not... ha.

:)
sherlyn (sorry, it's sunday, i'm a little scattered today)

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date:         sat, 18 jul 1998 19:45:50 -0400
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subject:      an indigo day. . .and fare thee well to all y'all - long (sorry)

hey there kind listees,

indigo moment alert! i was in a store that sells dance clothes, looking
for tights, and i hear the familiar intro to least complicated. . .yay!!
i was so excited - i've never heard the radio play any ig except soy (and
land of canaan, once). (the fact that they actually played this may be
due to the fact that lilith is today and tomorrow, but so what?)
immediately i started singing (it's kind of an instinctive thing. . .hear
ig, must sing), despite the fact that i am in a public place where it
usually isn't the custom to sing along out loud with all your favorite
songs. the people working in the store basically ignored my joyful burst
into song, except to ask me who sang lc.

then. . .later in the day, i was in some other store (can't remember
which), heading toward the door. . .i passed the electronics section
where all the tvs are, and happened to glance up at one of the tvs. .
.and who do i happen to see emulated all over every tv screen in the room
but our own beloved amy & em!! (it was last year's lililth, them singing
twiw with sarah and jewel.) i couldn't believe it. . .two in one day! you
can just imagine my sheer delight. at first all i could do was stand
there and point at the screen openmouthed, but i quickly regained my
composure and proceeded to plunk myself down in front of the tvs and
watch and listen intently.

yes, i think this would definetely fall under the category of "you know
you're obsessed with ig when. . .". gotta admit that i, too, am one of
those afflicted with a severe case of that strange and captivating bug
called indigoheadism. . .for which there is no cure. . .

anyway. . .turning my ramblings onto a completely different subject,
while i'm posting, i just wanted to say goodbye to the list. . .on
monday, i'm going to be leaving home to go to a training camp for this
performing group that i'm going to be in (anyone who happens to see an ad
for duquesne university tamburitzans performing in a city near you,
please come see us), and after that i'm going to be headed straight to
school. so i'll be away from the list for a little while. :o( but i just
wanted to thank y'all for keeping me updated on all the ig goings-on,
entertaining me, and helping me out with boots and such. erin and jill
(oh, and mel, too), you're awesome for putting together this thing for
em's b-day. sherlyn, thanks for putting up with all kinds of stuff from
us and being a fantastic in-charge-of-the-list person. and one big big
huge thank you to those people who helped me out when i had my little
cd/tape crisis: jules, erin, meiwei, lamia, and celeste. i just want to
say, that despite the occasional flames and stuff that sometimes happen,
this list is a such wonderful place. even though we're all pretty much
strangers here, i've never seen so much willingness to help each other
out. . .might not seem like it at times, but there's a whole lot of love
on this list. it's amazing. you are some pretty incredible people.

so. . .thanks, y'all. sorry that this got *really* long. . .hopefully
i'll be back sometime in the fall when i get settled in at school.

peace, love, indigo, and all good things,
fare thee well,
kristina :o)

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date:         sat, 18 jul 1998 18:23:07 pdt
reply-to:     debi singer <debi666@hotmail.com>
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i am on the computer because i am grounded because my mom is psycho.
but thanx to everyone who told me that indigo girls are lesbians.  i
like lesbians and vampires!

i only have shaming of the sun.  i think i want closer to fine.  it was
onsale at walmart.

i have never seen a concert at all before.  do the indigo girls ever
come to kansas?  i want to see them if they do.  but why would anyone
want to come to kansas?  i can't wait  to be done with high school and
leave it here.

bye! :),
debs (debi666@hotmail.com)

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date:         sat, 18 jul 1998 22:08:17 -0400
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subject:      re: various things - portland tix update
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              "sherlyn koo" at jul 19, 98 09:43:15 am
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portland went onsale 10 am friday through ticket master. the show is general
admission , tixs are $25 with some handling fee and can be bought at bull
moose records in portland (next to videoport).

did i mention the state is a wonderful place to see a show?

sorry this went to sherlyn, who is 10000 miles away, but hey you never know
when she may skip over to the us 8^)

mike r.
the show is not sold out - least to my knowledge - wclz (www.wclz.com) is
running ads for it - i dont think the b'cast over the web - but i could tape
it and put the ad on a server somewhere in realaudio - it is promoting a
show...it was a cool ad...

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hey again folks,

i knew there was something i forgot to mention earlier..

a big thank you to erin tripp and to jill certo, for
organising emily's birthday project!  and thank you to
all the folks who donated.

:)
sherlyn

ps - there's a new mailing list for eastern front recording
artist peter mulvey.  mail me if you want details...

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i'm going to see tori! i'm going to see tori! *dancing around like the
happy maniac i am*
has anyone ever seen her? do they know if you wait before or after the
concert to meet her? i need heeeeeelp!! i've never seen her before i'm
so excited! and i found the hey jupiter ep today for $7!! it's tori all
around :)

*hugs*

lamia

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hey everyone,
     i was just in my room practicing my blood sucking and i put on the
album i bought today at target, and i thought...the indigo girl must be
vamps too!!!  i mean blood and fire, that was a tip off for me...and is
prince of darkness about the almighty one, satan? cause if that's true
then i'm going out and buying every album...even thought they sound
nothing like marilyn manson, because he is a god and noone can
compare...but n e wayz, my friend tiffini said i was full of it, that
they aren't vamps, so does anyone know for sure?  and one more
thing....is the blonde chick that everyone is talking about amy's
girlfriend?

see ya,
debs

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subject:      re: blood and fire
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am i missing something?  what's this about?  this list has been so damn confusing of late...

> hey!  could someone please tell me about the album blood and fire?

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folks,

debi singer said:
>     i was just in my room practicing my blood sucking and i put on the
>album i bought today at target, and i thought...the indigo girl must be
>vamps too!!!

er... no.

>and is
>prince of darkness about the almighty one, satan? cause if that's true

actually, "prince of darkness" is about satan, or at
least about the dark side of life.  it's certainly
not celebratory or worshipping satan though, quite
the opposite.  "i will not be a pawn for the prince
of darkness any longer..."

>thing....is the blonde chick that everyone is talking about amy's
>girlfriend?

oh no, please... don't go there.  we're not opening this
discussion again!  (that's me putting my foot down.)

-sherlyn
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i have seen tori amos 15 times.

if you want any info, mail me.


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hi,
i rarely post to the list but i'm making an exception because i just bought
the july issue of performing songwriter (w/ig on the cover) and opened to see
an amazing spread of great color photos of a&e from past to present (many from
nff) and in the photo credits it listed amy putnam!
in the next few pages mixed in w/the interview were lots of great b+w shots of
them, too.
amy, congratulations!   you know i've admired your work (remember those copies
i wanted?).  your photos really made this article worth buying the magazine
for.
check it out,  i got mine at barnes and noble.
rena

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the tm web site shows that the minneapolis stop on the suffragette
sessions tour is on sale as of this morning. tickets are $18 plus the
usual scalper's charges. i've got my tickets - see ya there!

eddie

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in a message dated 98-07-18 19:58:54 edt, you write:

>  well, anyone got anything to
>  say/add/help me out with/yell at me about this boot?  anyone...

yes, you could have just asked...and sent a blank and sase...well, maybe with
the cost of a couple of maxells and postage (not to mention the immediate
gratification factor)...still, $8 is a lot.  at least my setlist and liner
would have been more accurate :)

there are a lot of people on the list with big hearts and lots of ig boots.
you don't need to buy them.  i know cuz i have traded with them and sent them
blanks and they are happy to share the music.  and those that receive are
happy to pass it on to others ...kind of a grateful dead kinda attitude,
wouldn't you say?  so apply your fingers to the keyboard and ask :)

jude :)

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in a message dated 98-07-17 14:27:36 edt, you write:

<< don't know if this has been mentioned already, but ig is on the cover of
the lesbian news, vol. 23, no. 12, july '98. inside is an interview with
amy and some pix i haven't seen before. check it out...
  >>

does anyone know where i could get this?  thanks, sarah

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hi everyone. i was just at the rockontv website, and today on nbc there is a
two hour long show called the best of hardrock live. it mentions that ig will
be on this, but i don't know what they'll be doing. if you live in nj it's on
at 12:00. i don't know if the stuff will be the same as the the vh1 show, but
i have my vcr set anyway.
reb

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auuuuugh!!! i went to try and find performing songwriter! barnes and
nobel didn't have it so i went to this books-a-million place, and looked
for it, didn't find it. so i asked the girl who works there, she said
that some books-a-millions carry it but they don't!! :p so then lel and
i went back there and looked everywhere..finally found one copy, but it
was the june/july..at least it had something about michelle malone &
danielle howel...so it wasn't a total loss... :p

*hugs*

lamia

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i got mine at barnes and noble.  but i have seen most all the photos before and didn't find anything really new...just mho.
toye


> does anyone know where i could get this?  thanks, sarah

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and i went to barnes and noble to get mine and they only had may/june.  july was all gone...uh, wonder why....
toye

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> auuuuugh!!! i went to try and find performing songwriter! barnes and
> nobel didn't have it so i went to this books-a-million place,

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hello, all.
      with this note i don't mean to ruffle any feathers.  there are a couple
of people asking about why you would not return the exact tape you were given.
once upon a time when i had time to do trees, etc, (and i have definitely done
my share of 'em) i was on a tree for 5 boots at once.  not only that but they
were a mixture of tape lengths.  so i suggested that people send me maxell xl-
ii's.  why?  i pre-dubbed all i could so that when the tapes arrived i
wouldn't have to have a big stack to do.  so, i got the blanks, and if the
people had sent the tapes i suggested, i pulled them out of the envelope,
replaced them with the ones i'd pre-taped, and had them out the next day.  if
they didn't send the xl-ii's, then it took a little longer because i actually
dubbed onto the tapes they sent.  does that make sense.  i always sent back
the exact type of tape, but that explains the not using the exact same tape
the other person sent.  i could have easily sent the wrong set to someone, but
i didn't.  the person in question obviously made a little mistake, but, like
big bird says, "everyone makes mistakes, so why can't you?"  so why all the
fussing and fighting?  it doesn't have to be that way.  i hope i may have shed
some light on at least something.  maybe not.  anyhow, have a fruitful day!
peace, love, and butter biscuits, sarah

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in a message dated 98-05-29 21:06:38 edt, you write:

<< << hello, all!
        i'm sorry to repost something so long, but i haven't had quite enough
orders to get the quantity discounts i need to offer you guys such low
prices,
so look over the list and let's decorate our guitar cases and cars and such!
the sooner you reply the sooner i can get everybody's stickers out to 'em!
tell all your friends so we can get this show on the road!  (no pun
intended... on the road... bumper stickers... get it? =) )

  << okay, i did this about 2 years ago, so i guess it's time to do it
again...
   basically, i have a catalogue of bumper stickers here.  with the quantity
   discounts bumper stickers are cheap, so that's why it's easier to do it on
the
   list.  okay, it's not easier for me, personally, but it's easier for all
you
   guys. =)  i don't make a profit at all (obviously) and you get some cool
   stuff!  so, here's the list of what's available.  what you do is pick the
ones
   you like and write them down on a piece of paper.  please be specific.  on
   that paper also write your name, address, and e-mail address, and maybe
even
a
   little note to me so i feel loved. ;)  then e-mail me with the list of what
   you want and i'll write back with the dollar total and my address so you
can
   send me that piece of paper along with your payment.  it's that simple.
   i'm also here if you have questions about the procedure. =)  i'm going to
stop
   taking orders eventually, so please reply as soon as you decide what you'd
   like to have. =)  the following stickers are just basic bumper sticker
size.
   they are in various colours, etc.

   relax! you'll get there
   whatever you do... is it necessary, truthful, and kind?
   designated drivers are the life of the party
   ageism will catch up to you
   i think therefore i'm dangerous
   "speak your mind, even if your voice shakes"
   emancipate yourself from mental slavery.  none but ourselves can free our
   minds.
   tobacco sucks the life out of you
   people are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's easier
to
   harass
              rich women than motorcycle gangs.
   breathe
   spare the fenders, save the trees, give your sober friend the keys
   just say neigh to premarin
   managed care is neither
   hmo phobic
   to hell with the baptists, i'm going to disneyland
   children are people too
   minds are like parachutes - they only function when open
   live simply that others may simply live
   meat is dead
   kill your television
   why be normal?
   come out, come out, wherever you are
   homophobia is a social disease
   fight racism
   haterd is not a family value
   it's never ok to hit a child
   support organic farmers
   heart attacks... god's revenge for eating his animal friends
   courtesy is contagious
   i'm straight but not narrow
   hang up and drive
   celebrate diversity
   television is drugs
   fight prime time - read a book
   mean people suck
   dare to think for yourself
   equal rights are not special rights
   currently training to avoid a mid-life crisis
   be kind to animals - don't eat them
   vegetarians taste better
   you can have my gun when you pry it from my paranoid, mentally disturbed,
               physically abusive, cold, dead hand
   don't postpone joy
   condoms are easier to change than diapers
   fight aids not people with aids
   i don't need therapy i need money
   vegetarians are sprouting up all over
   i don't eat anything with a face
   torturing one animal is cruelty, torturing many animals is science?
   television ruined my life
   just say no to ritalin
   the truly educated never graduate
   our national health plan - don't get sick!
   i embarass my offspring
   honor teachers
   nuclear waste - mobile chernobyl
   the nation that destroys its soil destroys itself
   be a lawn outlaw (picure of mower with slash)
   treehugger
   plug into renewable energy
   save the humans
   love your mother
   think globally, act locally
   paper from paper not from trees
   choice
   ginger rogers did everything fred astaire did: only backwars and in heels
   eve was framed
   peace at home*  *battery not included
   i brake for amazons
   queen without a country
   witches parking (all others will be toad)
   uppity women unite
   every mother is a working mother
   god is coming and is she pissed!
   a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle
   women are great leaders- you're following one
   pro child pro choice
   the labor movement "the folks who brought you the weekend"
   don't blame me. i voted for nader
   the earth does not belong to us- we belong to it
   compost happens
   humans aren't the only species on earth - we just act like it
   plants and animals disappear to make room for your fat ass
   the hole in the ozone is directly related to the hole in yout head
   reduce-reuse-recycle-restore
   deforestation the doorway to hell
   take nothing but pictures- leave nothing but footprints
   extinct is forever
   i'm pro-choice and i vote
   wild women don't get the blues
   against abortion?  then don't have one
   thelma & louise live
   if you can't trust me with a choice, how can you trust me with a baby?
   just say no to sex with pro-lifers
   my other car is a broom
   femenism is the radical notion that women are people
   if you feel attacked by femenism, it's probably a counter-attack
   i support breast cancer research
   they are nopt hot flashes... they are power surges
   towanda!
   never another battered woman
   peace on earth good will toward women
   i (heart) big brother
   subvert the dominant paradigm
   "your silence will not protect you"
   there's no government like no government
   execution stops a beating heart
   america needs a second party
   our factories are all overseas.  all we produce here are rich executives
   i'd rather be smashing imperialism
   xena for president
   question authority
   no one is free when others are oppressed
   lobotomies for republicans - it's the law!
   free leonard peltier
   invest in america - buy a congressman
   dare to keep the cia off drugs
   politicians and diapers need to be changed... often for the same reason
   under republicans, man exploits man.  under democrats, it's just the
opposite
   honor treaty rights
   doing my part to piss off the religious right
   i believe in life before death
   christian not closed minded
   militant agnostic i don't know & you don't either
   if going to church makes you a christian, does going to the garage make you
a
           car?
   millenium, schmillenium
   god was my copilot but we crashed in the mountains and i had to eat him
   you may say i'm a dreramer but i'm not the only one
   hell i'ts not the heat it's the humidity
   born again pagan
   i think, therefore i don't listen to rush limbaugh
   the road to hell is paved with republicans
   empty the prisons - make room for congress
   if progress means to move forward, what does congress mean?
   friends don't let friends vote republican
   guns don't kill people- radical pro-lifers kill people
   will be president for food
   the media are only as liberal as the conservative businesses that own them
   "better a bleeding heart than none at all."
   if you're noy outraged, then you're not paying attention
   lead, follow, or get out of the way
   peace begins when the hungry are fed
   if god inteded us to vote we would have been given candidates
   the arts are not a luxury
   organize!
   indian country (graphic of the americas)
   if christ is the answer, what was the question?
   my karma ran over your dogma
   god protect me from your followers
   jesus is a liberal
   jesus is coming, look busy
   come the rapture, can i have your car?
   my goddess gave birth to your god
   if you want a country run by religion move to iran
   honk if you think i'm jesus
   the goddess is alive and magic is afoot
   it's time for anopther magical mystery tour
   isis!  isis!  ra!  ra!  ra!
   religious freedom means any religion
   stop global warming
   you nonconformists are all alike
   eschew obfuscation
   "failure is impossible"
   i haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister!
   lottery: a tax on people who can't do math
   oh, no!  not another learning experience!
   i can feel your pain (whatever)
   the truth is out there (but i'm stuck here)
   are we there yet?
   i saw elvis making crop circles
   i love my country but fear my government
   happy childhoods last a lifetime- prevent child abuse
   (one with no words, just a big band-aid for the boo boos on your car.)
   start seeing bicycles
   join the army; travel to exotic, distant lands; meet exciting, unusual
people
              and kill them
   give peace a chance
   viualize world peace
   you cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war
   it will be a great day when our schools get all the money they need and the
                 air force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber
   commit random acts of kindness and senseless beauty
   those who abandon their dreams will discourage yours
   last time we mixed politics and religion... people got burned at the stake
   sorry i missed church, i've been busy practicing witchcraft and becoming a
   lesbian
   who owns you?
   overpopulation too much of a good thing
   visualize using your turn signals
   ufo's are real (the air force doesn't exist)
   question reality
   more jobs?  what about less people?
   not all who wander are lost
   i'm prolifejacket and i boat
   support your local extra-terrestrial
   creative people must be stopped
   where are we going?  and why am i in this handbasket?
   just say no to one word solutions
   i do whatever the little voices tell me to do
   the artless are in charge of funding the arts
   i can't go to work today - the voices said "stay home and clean the guns"
   actions speak louder than bumperstickers
   free tibet
   visualize whirled peas
   if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will shoot their kids accidentally
   what wisdom can you find that is greater than kindness?
   pro-veteran / anti-war
   peace be with you

   okay... these are smaller bike size stickers:

   mend your feulish ways
   go by bike
   bla bla bla bla whatever
   hate your job?  quit!
   will kill for food
   skateboarding permitted
   (rainbow flag)


   okay, everything above this point is the same price.  all of the prices
   include shipping unless you're overseas.  if that's the case please let me
   know and we'll figure something out.

   1 sticker - $1.50
   2 stickers - $2.70
   3 stickers - $3.60
   4 stickers - $4.20
   5 sickers - $4.75
   6 stickers - $5.00

   to order, say, nine stickers, just add the price for 6 to the price for 3.
   hence, 9 stickers would be $8.60.  the following do not fit in to the above
   pricing chart:

   these are clear, non-adhesive window stickers ("static cling" stickers):

   red ribbon
   rainbow triangle
   pink triangle
   black triangle
   peace sign
   women's symbol
   rainbow flag

   these are plain black-on-clear static cling window stickers:

   clergy (with symbol)
   yin yang
   celtic knot
   woven star
   oom
   peace

   also, you can get a 26-inch long 1/2 inch thick rainbow sticker that is
almost
   as wide as your car.

   all of the items described above go by the following price scale:

   1 sticker - $2.00
   2 stickers - $3.00
   3 stickers - $4.00

   i think that's all.  happy ordering, and send your questions here. =)  my
   fingers are tired!  thanks, sarah >>

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 12:36:00 -0400
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thanx for all that have responded to my plea for a pic of amys tat.  this
is like the coolest thing ever!!!  you guys are the best.

thanx!!!!!

j&t

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 12:40:40 -0400
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what tyme are people planning on being at bogarts?
what tyme will we meet if we meet?
let me know.

thanx

j&t

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< hey there,

for all you ani lurkers out there, she's on the front cover of this
months diva magazine, including a cd compilation of some of
her released songs and an interview... i havent read it or
listened to it yet...
  >>

hey, i know this was a long time ago, but does anyone have an extra copy or
know of a way to order back issues?  thank you, sarah

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 14:39:35 edt
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hey!
      okay, so i checked my local listings (atlanta) and found out it was
going to be on at two.  i made sure to have a tape in the vcr, etc.  the show
before it came on as scheduled.  then, instead of ig it was some stuffy people
talking about mortgages, and now it's martha stewart!  did anyone catch the
real show?  peace, love, and butter biscuits, sarah

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 14:51:46 edt
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the indigo girls are not satanist, they are one of the christian
denominations, i believe.

blood and fire is about amy's experiences with self-mutilation, as far as i
know, they are not vampires.

prince of darkness, i don't know what it's about, but let's do our analysis
thing.

i think it's about breaking free of the darkness, like coming into the light,
breaking out of a depression, therefore the line: "and i will not be a pawn
for the prince of darkness any longer." it sounds to me like she's talking
about people who are in so much pain, and they're breaking free, living their
lives as they feel they should, not letting the sadness and depression and
pain control them.

okay, my $7.21. :}

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peace,
*erica*

"maybe move to the right, maybe move to the left,
so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
-indigo girls,
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome/
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debbie, we don't talk about amy and emily's private lives, according to their
wishes. therefore, please don't ask questions about it on this list. this
question will be ignored. :)

don't flame deb, guys, or me for the last e-mail i sent, about i don't think
they're vampires...if that's about their personal lives, sorry and ignore me.

****************************************
peace,
*erica*

"maybe move to the right, maybe move to the left,
so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
-indigo girls,
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands"
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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 14:58:42 edt
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no, not vampires, no, not satanists.  they believe in a higher power, probably
exisiting in nature.  if any of you need this info, or would like it, i have a
*movie* i can upload to you with amy talking about her religious beliefs for
ab 1 min.

let me know.  ill be glad to help.

troop

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 15:09:24 -0400
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hi y'all!

this is driving me crazy!  i have called ticketmaster and i keep on
looking at their web site.  ugggggggg, there is still nothing about
tickets for the chicago show at the riv!  does anyone (maybe people who
are actually in chicago, enjoying the lovely heat wave that my mother has
told me all about...) know anything new?  did they say anything about it
in the trib or anything?  anyway, i really wanna get tickets for the
wednesday show because i can actually work it into my schedule to come
home for one night!  :-)

okay, thanks y'all!!!!

love,
karen :-)

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but you're not gonna stop me from having fun!"
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"i felt like kerokeroppi on crack."  -- me :-)
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hey everyone,

jude wrote:
> yes, you could have just asked...and sent a blank and sase...<snip>...
> there are a lot of people on the list with big hearts and lots of ig boots.
> you don't need to buy them.  i know cuz i have traded with them and sent them
> blanks and they are happy to share the music.  and those that receive are
> happy to pass it on to others ...kind of a grateful dead kinda attitude,
> wouldn't you say?  so apply your fingers to the keyboard and ask :)
>
> jude :)
>
        er, um... well, i truly thank you for the great advice, but,
perhaps i should have been more clear. (uh-oh, did i mention i was
loooooooooong-winded)... this was the *only* time i ever bought a boot.  i
have somewhere around twenty or so audio and around 5 video boots, all of
which i traded through the list for, except that one, obviously.  i do do
all those things you suggest.  i get boots and i pass them on to others.
        this happened about *two* years ago, before i got very into boot
collecting.  a few things factored into why i chose to buy it.  and these
*aren't* reasons or justifications.  i *agree* with you, i *shouldn't*
have done it.  i know this.  to an extent i knew it then, but these
factors overpowered my sense of judgement and morality.  i know it was
wrong.  i admit this...
        first of all, this was a boot *right in front of me*, right where
i live.  sure it's pittsburgh, not exactly a boony town... but seeing ig
boots in the random public is not a common occurrence (for most of us, i
would assume)...  and i *freaked*.  i did not even expect to find any
boots being sold (as they shouldn't be), let alone *ig*!  when i did, my
morals *flew* out the window, and not because they're not very well
grounded, but b/c "hey, i never heard of this..." and i honestly, truly
(and rather studpidly) thought it was something that didn't exist
elsewhere...  silly, silly, naive me... that's what seein' ig boots in the
random public does to ya...  i thought i was unearthing an unheard ig gem
and i was going to be able to share it with my fellow fanatics, or whoever
wanted it,  not for personal glory, but to make others happy, my
favorite hobby, i.e. lifelong pastime... also, i had the opportunity to
*listen* to it, and the quality is pretty damn fine!  excellent soundin'
ig music is freakin' *hard* to resist, 'specially when it's *in your
hands*, and eight bucks is not that much to me for something *ig*. lastly,
and this needs no explainin', it has *melissa* on it!  completlely and
utterly irresistable to those named melissa, as am i...
        but, really, i do *completely* agree with you.  would i do it again
today? ... i *really* wish i could easily say i wouldn't, but i am an
extremely faulty person, and as much as my ideals are pure and pristine,
and i try to live "perfectly" as i see it, i just utterly suck at it,
though i try *damn* hard, believe it or not...
        call me a hippocrite, call me a loser or weak-willed (i'm *not* saying
*you* are or would call me any of these things <but you're certainly
welcome to>, this is a general public statement), or call me a crazy
fanatic who tries desperately hard not to be, and to remember that amy and
emily are just regular darn people like everyone else, just whose talents
bring them much recognition and admiration from many, many people... but
who fails miserably at that, too...
        geesh, who would have thought there are so many moral dilemmas
that one can become involved in by liking a musical group, but darn it, it
happens.  yes, for me it comes down to being a moral dilemma.  a moral
dilemma which i have allowed to crush the public's view of my self-worth.
        i'm *not* kidding; however, i may be being just slightly
over-dramatic. i do *not* mean to be condescending or rude.  and i do have
self-esteem...  i just love public ridicule, or at least attempting to
create it.  yes, i truly just want everyone to hate me, so i won't have to
care about anyone anymore.  okay, my sarcastic nature is really getting
out of hand now, i'll stifle it...
        now, honestly, thank you for your words of kindness and wisdom, i
truly thank you.  i agree with you and would say the same to others.  but,
when it comes down to applying this moral code to *myself*, although i
have obeyed all but once, i cannot *guarantee* (sp?) that i will not mess
up again.  i am human.  but, i *will* try my darndest, as always.  thank
you again for the kind and wise words.  you are an inspiration...  and am
i a just a sad and feeble example *not* to be followed, or just the common
person, or just a very crazy and talkative person who has difficulty
shutting up... <now you see what i have to deal with here... :) >

peace, melissa

to all who have read this far:  i extend to you a free one year's
subscription to the "oh my golly, is this melissa chick totally off her
rocker, bonkers, nut-so, lunatic, completely frightening, occasionally
witty, definitely laughable, so damn verbiose, weirdest, nutcase crazy on
the face of the planet" *fan club*!!!

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -a.r.

-my life is more than a vision -e.s.

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 16:36:59 -0400
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on sunday 12 july, vh1 aired several hours of lilith artist videos and
interviews. no doubt it will be repeated -- when? -- is anyone's guess.

i taped it, as did a few other listers -- i gave my tape to someone who
can make video dubs -- and if there is enough interest, a "vh1-lilith
video" tree may be organized.

most of the air time was devoted to vh1's cynthia garrett's interviews
with lilith artists. unfortunately, all of the interviews were done on
lilith's opening day (june 19 - portland), so there was some obvious
nervousness and opening night "jitters" expressed by most of the
artists.

emily, however, didn't seem very nervous -- she was her usual eloquent,
down-to-earth self. to me, amy seemed a little distracted, like she was
chomping at the bit to just get out there and *play*!

one interview segment touched upon the hs cancellations -- a&e's
responses made me very proud that we donated money (in honor of emily's
birthday) to support gay/lesbian youth.

i know that most listers will probably never get to see the vh1-lilith
special -- but i thought that their words during the interviews were
worthy reading for all ig fans -- so i transcribed them and typed them
out...

vh1-lilith ig transcript to follow...

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transcript of ig interviews from vh1-lilith special (orig air date: sun
12 july 1998)

interviewer for vh1: cynthia garrett

interview date: fri 19 june 1998 - lilith fair 98 opening day -
portland, or


about "the gender issue" -- men at lilith:

es: there are some very key men. the people in sarah's
management -- marty who promoted and books the tour, the
agent... and the guys in the bands, at least last year they
were all awesome and we all got along so well. i mean...
we're all here together. this festival to us isn't really
like a man vs woman thing. we don't even think about the
gender issue anymore.

[from another sound bite]
es: we totally believe in diversity. that's what life is all
about -- celebrating it!


int: there's a lot of fans out there who will be watching.
what would you say to them -- out there -- about this whole
tour and what it means?

es: wish you were here! (laughter)

ar: yeah, wish you were here!... hmm... (laughter) i don't know.

es: it's about the power of women's spirit... it's about the
power of our musical gifts... it's about joining that together.
but in the end it feels much more universal than that because
we have men and women -- out in the crowd, in the bands, running
the shows. to me it's just about bringing people together
through the views of women musicians, through our strength. so
it's a good thing.

ar: and respect your elders. i'm into this idea that there are
all these grandmas out there that were suffragettes... just
respect your elders and realize that they paved the road for us.

es: that's the truth.


int: in what way has lilith fair affected your career in the
last year?

es: it gave us a big shot in the arm -- there's no doubt about
that. last year when we agreed to do the tour, we really just
thought -- oh, that sounds like a lot of fun. but it turns out
that we *never* could have played to crowds this big last year.
from last year, it was a real boost -- it introduced us to new
fans. it kept things going for us at a time when, to be honest,
we were feeling a little lull in our career. so we're thankful
for that.


int: you two took a lot of criticism this tour...

ar: the high schools? yeah...

int: and you've handled it *so* well... (fumbles for words)

es: what happened was we were gonna do some high school shows --
and it ended up some of them got canceled -- cuz we're gay --
plain and simple. so what we did was schedule shows in those
towns anyway, after school. all the kids were offered free tickets
and the shows were full... and a lot of kids walked out of their
schools in protest and were suspended... but... you know -- at
first it hurt our feelings -- but it's so much bigger than what
it has to due with us. it was more about... in the end about the
way a dialogue was opened about these issues. and that homophobia
exists -- it's alive and well all over the country, all over the
world. and this was a chance for people to come together and say --
we don't think this is right, that a *concert*, just pure music,
should be canceled because of sexual orientation.

int: maybe sometimes the attention helps to get rid of the issue,
sort of... or the problem...

ar: there's a very high suicide rate for gay teenagers -- *very
high*... there's no dialogue sometimes with the parents... and
kids end up on the streets, killing themselves, going into
prostitution, and drugs... just for *that*... just to open some
kind of dialogue. parents talk to your kids -- don't lecture them
-- just talk to them...


int: what attracted you guys to lilith fair?

es: it was a lot of things. it was the amount of money that was
given away to charities and local groups. it was the camaraderie
among the women and the men in the band and the people who ran
the show. it was sarah's vision for a festival like this. it...
breaking down some barriers -- it's been a male dominated
society -- i mean industry -- and society as well...

ar: i'm gonna say the same stuff actually... the charitable
aspect is definitely a big draw for me. these big festivals can
do so much for donating money. it always feels better when you
know that you're part of something.

[from another sound bite]
ar: the presentation of the check to the women's charities was
always a pretty fabulous moment -- this massive amount of money
that no one expected -- and there would be tears and little
exclamations of joy.


about lilith "breaking the rules":

es: this is the first one of it's kind, so that makes it special.
and you know, in the past, radio programmers won't put women
artists back-to-back when they will men... and the promoters
balking at more than one woman on a bill -- those kinds of things
-- sarah took this tour and blew all those things away... so it's
good... it's good...


int:  did you guys expect last year to be so successful -- or
were you just as surprised?

ar: i think i expected it to be successful honestly. the bill was
made up of a lot people who had big radio success, big album
success -- and to me it was a "no lose" situation. i think emily
and i were really the underdogs as far as that kind of commercial
success.


int: what inspires you guys to write music?

es: *life* (laughter) you know what i mean...

ar: sinead o'connor... (laughter) [note: there was another quick
ig sound bite related to all of the artists being asked their
opinions about sinead -- as a build up to the interviewer's chat
with sinead]

es: experiences, travels... we've met a lot of really amazing
people along our journey... films, good books, conversations,
things that bother us, injustices in the world that are rampant...

int:  what is your writing process like? isn't it you write
separately and don't try to interpret for each other?

es: right. i write my songs; amy writes hers. and in the end
we collaborate on the arrangements -- we work on harmonies,
guitar parts, instrument parts -- and go into the studio and work
together on all the songs.

int: is there ever a time when you go -- "you know, emily, i really
think you should do it this way"?

es: sure (laughter)

ar: yeah, she doesn't listen to me. (laughter) we give each other
suggestions, but usually only when asked -- "maybe you should
write an extra verse or maybe there should be an extra chorus."
-- things like that... but it's not... it's constructive criticism.
it's friendly. i think we depend on each other for mutual support,
and criticism, really.

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 16:52:57 edt
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to find out the schedule for vh1 programming the web address is:

http://vh1.com/insidevh1/schedule/


lynn   :-)
http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html

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hey everyone,

a few weeks ago i think i saw this.  it had quite a few really great artist on
it including shawn colvin and cindi lauper.  the indigo girls did soy.  it was
cool, but that was all they did.  it was a really good show, and worth
having....

arin

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 14:37:43 -0600
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this is from the lilith site.  very flattering to our girls.

"the indigo girls were back, too! we missed them. it has been said on
more than once that  the indigos are the heart of lilith. we only have
them for another week before they head off to europe, so we're going to
savour every second of each set. you should, too."

j u s t i n

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i went to lilith at merriweather on saturday and the first thing i did
was get my butt to tower to see if the girls were signing.well they
weren't :(
so i went in search for the blue single cd,the girl in front of me had
it and was talking to the woman running the cash register just buy the
conversation i knew the girl was on the list so i asked her...anyway i
asked what the deal was to get the free cd and the lady who worked there
said you can buy any indigo cd now instead of just shaming. she also
said russell wasnt happy with the new deal. she told me
to let the list know,that it is now buy any indigo cd.so i'm letting the
list know. i then asked her "i guess the days of the girls signing are
over?" she just smiled and shooked her head yes. bummer to us who missed
out on that deal. well the girls rocked that night same set as camden
just mixed around a little.great show.great venue.too tired to get into
details-karen frey that would be your job now.
oh if any listers were there i would be the one who tossed up that bear
to natalie woohoo
karen2

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the boot, blood and fire, is a concert at the university of oregon back in
'93. includes "mona lisas and mad hatters", a cover of elton john and bernie
taupin, and also a super version of "chickenman" and the song "american tune"
which i believe is an original girls song, though i'm not sure who wrote it,
it's sung a cappella, and it's beautiful.  e-mail me for more info.

"guess i wasn't the best one to ask, me, myself, with my face pressed up
against love's glass.  to see the shiny toy i'd been hoping for, the one i
never could afford. . ." --emily

---summer

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"american tune"
> which i believe is an original girls song, though i'm not sure who wrote
it,

actually, nope...this was a simon and garfunkel song that wasn't even a
cappella before the girls got their hands on it...one of my favorite
covers...
:-)
peace,
       sharoane

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we only have
>them for another week before they head off to europe, so we're going to
>savour every second of each set. you should, too."


what?????indigo girls coming to europe???? :))))
anyone knows something about this?
thank you all... :))))
danny

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in a message dated 7/19/98 4:58:05 pm central daylight time,
shuey@amarillonet.com writes:

<< we only have
them for another week before they head off to europe >>

what?????  europe???

help me out here guys and gals...
troop, who is gonna wait for all the amy religion plees bfore i send them :)

"all lies and jest, still a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards
the rest" ~paul simon-the boxer

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"american tune" is not an original girls song, it's a paul simon song. i just
thought i should make that clear, not looking to flame anyone, and certainly
not looking for a blowtorch in the face. :}

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peace,
*erica*

"maybe move to the right, maybe move to the left,
so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
-indigo girls,
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome/
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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 18:29:10 edt
reply-to:     antigone40@aol.com
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thanks for the info about "american tune".  i wanted to know the origin
anyway!

--summer

"it's only life, afterall. . ."  --emily

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 18:39:42 -0400
reply-to:     karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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hey y'all,

i'm still recuperating..karen was a blast, we had a great time both nights.
karen, i'm gonna do a post about both shows, but right now, i just woke up.

what i do want to say is this...i'm on and indigo high : )

love,  karen

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 18:27:45 edt
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subject:      chicago-suffragette

any news on when the tickets go on sale?
the venue and ticketmaster do not seem to
know.
(please email me privately, i am only on the
news only list).
thank you.
alycia

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 18:53:01 edt
reply-to:     tahmehawk@aol.com
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does anyone know where i might find gifs of the girls?   i want to add a cool
one to my website.

thanks,

lynn   :-)     <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
tahmehawk's place</a>

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 18:54:20 -0400
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since when was ig going to europe? did i miss something?
rb

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 18:00:17 pdt
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subject:      detroit suff. sess.
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hey, folks...
i got two tix to the detroit (24 aug) suffragette sessions and i think i
may not find someone to drag with me (i need to hang with people who
have an ig obsession like me), so if someone would like a ticket (for
$29.25) or would like to go with another listee, feel free to email me.

peace,
amy (who's listening to the foo fighters' (!) "walking after you" from
the xfiles soundtrack and loving it. oops xfiles is on, gotta go!)

visit me on the web!! http://www.geocities.com/wellesley/7728


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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 18:13:12 -0700
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please, enough with the vampires, its getting out of hand...thanks

                  with  love, and all things indigo

                                always,
                                   jeanette
            http://members.tripod.com/~jeanettelynn/jeanette.html

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                            i love in me
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so picture this..

a sold out show in nyc at radio city music hall.  summer 1994.

the opening act has left the stage as the crowd waits for the heart and soul
of what has brought them to this place.  time seems to move so slowly as they
wait... for what seems like hours... them the light seem to dim... the crowd
goes silent for a split second them erupts in screams of joy and
anticipation....

the old red fire cloth that blocks the stage starts its rise towards the
rafters revealing a blackened stage.  the crowd is overjoyed and can't wait
even one second more for the two angelic women to arrive... but where are
they?  the lights around the venue dim to near darkness.... but nothing...

then, like voices chanting down from the heavens, the two women begin to
sing... but they as yet can't be seen...

dreamed that my soul rose unexpectedly
and looking back down at me
smiled reassuringly
and i dreamed i was flying
and high up above, my eyes could clearly see
the  sailing away to sea
and i dreamed i was dying.

the words come from the darkened stage and move like velvet across the full
auditorium.  silence... the crowd holds its breath as the two voices sing this
song that is know to all but never before has it held such a meaning.

the meaning is two folds.  first it is the song that marks the start of an
evening that will fill up the souls and hearts of al in attendance.   and
second is a bit more obscure.  this section of the song includes a reference
to the town in which it is being sung.  and the only peep from the crowd
during these magic moments is when the two women slowly let the words *statue
of liberty* roll off their lips and into the eager ears of their fans.

this one moment....  this one single moment of two know voices singing in the
darkness of a crowd of strangers who love the women with emotions so deep and
strong that even the oldest of the crowd has a tear in their eye.... this
moment is heaven on earth...

this is the true and single definition of an indigo moment.....

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 21:25:36 edt
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so picture this..

a sold out show in nyc at radio city music hall.  summer 1994.

the opening act has left the stage as the crowd waits for the heart and soul
of what has brought them to this place.  time seems to move so slowly as they
wait... for what seems like hours... then the light seem to dim... the crowd
goes silent for a split second then erupts in screams of joy and
anticipation....

the old red fire cloth that blocks the stage starts its rise towards the
rafters revealing a blackened stage.  the crowd is overjoyed and can't wait
even one second more for the two angelic women to arrive... but where are
they?  the lights around the venue dim to near darkness.... but nothing...

then, like voices chanting down from the heavens, the two women begin to
sing... but they as yet can't be seen...

dreamed that my soul rose unexpectedly
and looking back down at me
smiled reassuringly
and i dreamed i was flying
and high up above, my eyes could clearly see
the statue of liberty sailing away to sea
and i dreamed i was dying.

the words come from the darkened stage and move like velvet across the full
auditorium.  silence... the crowd holds its breath as the two voices sing this
song that is know to all but never before has it held such meaning.

the meaning is two fold.  first it is the song that marks the start of an
evening that will fill up the souls and hearts of all in attendance.   and the
second is a bit more obscure.  this section of the song includes a reference
to the town in which it is being sung.  and the only peep from the crowd
during these magic moments is when the two women slowly let the words *statue
of liberty* roll off their lips and into the eager ears of their fans.

this one moment....  this one single moment of two know voices singing in the
darkness of a crowd of strangers who love the women with emotions so deep and
strong that even the oldest of the crowd has a tear in their eye.... this
moment is heaven on earth...

this is the true and single definition of an indigo moment.....

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 19:10:21 pdt
reply-to:     jill again <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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hey all-
just wanted to offer this up:
if anyone *still* wants to make a donation to youthpride, you can do one
of two things:

1) send your check to me (jill certo/ 5421 whitehaven ave./ north
olmsted, oh 44070).  include your name, email addy, and hometown.  i
must receive your check by this friday.
i have been getting checks as of late, so i am going to wait until the
end of the week to send them in.

2) send your check directly to youthpride, and email myself or erin
(gitroop@aol.com) with your full name and hometown, so that we can
notify our donation and card recipients that you are in on this with the
rest of us.

questions?  email me.
jill

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 12:23:02 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

found this on the newsgroup (alt.music.indigo-girls).
i have no affiliation etc, disclaimer disclaimer
disclaimer etc etc etc...

-sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= a+e=ig
sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au            [sydney, australia]
"looking back, seeing far - landing right where we are..."
                                        - dar williams

--begin forwarded message--
from: cd-hunter@webtv.net (demetrius souza)
newsgroups: alt.music.indigo-girls
subject: rare indigo stuff for sale
date: sat, 18 jul 1998 19:06:49 -0400 (edt)

postage extra.email me for rates and for my complete list of very rare
indigo stuff for sale


joking
us 1 track promo picture cd, p/s$11

starter kit
us deleted 7 track limited edition cd album, $25

swamp ophelia
limitied edition autographed lp, sealed $50

touch me fall
us 1 track promo cd in digipack$11

d.souza
8135 abbott ave.#4b
miami beach-fl 33141-1675
usa
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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 22:24:45 edt
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ok here it is again with out the three of four big mistakes!  sorry about
this... i have not written anything this detailed since college and i guess i
messed up on the first try!  sorry for the re-post and the silly use of space!
babs

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so picture this..

a sold out show in nyc at radio city music hall.  summer 1994.

the opening act has left the stage as the crowd waits for the heart and soul
of what has brought them to this place.  time seems to move so slowly as they
wait... for what seems like hours... then the light seem to dim... the crowd
goes silent for a split second then erupts in screams of joy and
anticipation....

the old red fire cloth that blocks the stage starts its rise towards the
rafters revealing a blackened stage.  the crowd is overjoyed and can't wait
even one second more for the two angelic women to arrive... but where are
they?  the lights around the venue dim to near darkness.... but nothing...

then, like voices chanting down from the heavens, the two women begin to
sing... but they as yet can't be seen...

dreamed that my soul rose unexpectedly
and looking back down at me
smiled reassuringly
and i dreamed i was flying
and high up above, my eyes could clearly see
the statue of liberty sailing away to sea
and i dreamed i was dying.

the words come from the darkened stage and move like velvet across the full
auditorium.  silence... the crowd holds its breath as the two voices sing this
song that is know to all but never before has it held such meaning.

the meaning is two fold.  first it is the song that marks the start of an
evening that will fill up the souls and hearts of all in attendance.   and the
second is a bit more obscure.  this section of the song includes a reference
to the town in which it is being sung.  and the only peep from the crowd
during these magic moments is when the two women slowly let the words *statue
of liberty* roll off their lips and into the eager ears of their fans.

this one moment....  this one single moment of two know voices singing in the
darkness of a crowd of strangers who love the women with emotions so deep and
strong that even the oldest of the crowd has a tear in their eye.... this
moment is heaven on earth...

this is the true and single definition of an indigo moment.....

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 19:31:39 -0700
reply-to:     sherri jacobson <slj@csulb.edu>
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hiya!
        ok, i was waiting in line to ride "supreme scream", the new
shoot-you-up-in-the-air-and-then-shoot-you-down-faster ride at knott's
berry farm in so. cal (my gf is one of the stagecoach drivers there) and
they were playing music videos for us poor souls in 100+ weather and what
do you know? least complicated is on their video loop!! it played 2 or 3
times during the day... it was awesome!!!!
just had to share...

sherri

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 12:41:19 +1000
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hey folks,

here's another one i found on the newsgroup...

-sherlyn
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sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au            [sydney, australia]
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                                        - dar williams

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subject: lilith at merriweather
date: 19 jul 1998 05:54:29 gmt

hello all

got in about an hour ago from lilith fair at merriweather.  here's the set list

tried to be true
galileo
gone again
least complicated
shed you skin with great trumpet solo from woman in sarah's band
get out the map
take a load off(???) i am guessing this a cover, joined by other lilith folks
water is wide with sarah mc and another great trumpet solo
closer to fine with lots of folks but noticeably absent.....natalie
merchant.....hmmmmm

[...]

indi


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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 23:35:27 edt
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there are going to be two very important & exciting events happening in the
atlanta area in august.   both are sponsored by the north american
neighborhood association (which is the organization that was the recipient of
the list birthday gift to amy this year).

first off - there is a benefit for chiapas at eddie's attic on august 2nd.
cecilia rodriguez is coming to atlanta to talk and work to raise relief funds
for the indigenous peoples of chiapas, mexico.  there will be musical guests
(big fish ensemble, david ryan harris, whirling rainbows and very special
guests), as well as a brief overview of the zapatista struggle by cecilia
rodriguez.   visuals will be provided by the stimulator.   there will also be
a silent auction of both indigenous artwork and autographed items from
national musicians who support this important cause.   this is guaranteed to
be a **very** special night.

here are the details:
date:  sunday, august 2nd, 1998
place:  eddie's attic, decatur, ga
time:  doors open at 7:00
price:  $8 and 1 can of food
ages:  this is a 21+ show only
artists:  big fish ensemble, david ryan harris, whirling rainbows and very
special guests.

next - cecilia will be speaking at the first iconian baptist church in east
atlanta on august 3rd.  she will be providing a first hand account of the
situation in chiapas, as well as talking about the involvement of the us in
this war against indigenous people.  she is known to be a very powerful and
impressive speaker, and this is not an evening to be missed!

date:  monday, august 3rd, 1998
place:  first iconium baptist church, east atlanta
time:  7:00 - 9:00 pm
price:  free
ages:  all ages

please feel free to email with questions.
=)
lisa

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date:         sun, 19 jul 1998 23:59:35 -0400
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hi y'all!

i just wanted to share that i finally got my first tattoo today!  :-)
it's the japanese (and it is also the same in chinese) symbol for "woman".
anyway, i am really happy!

love,
karen :-)

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 00:10:44 -0400
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hi again (sorry for posting so much tonight but i have a question!)

okay, i was at the sf lilith show.  and during "closer to fine", natalie
merchant didn't come out.  and i just read the post about the merriwater
(sp?) lilith, and same thing.  geez, does anyone know why natalie never
comes out to do c2f?  i was actually discussing that tonight with one of
my friends who really likes natalie merchant.  anyway, i was just
wondering.

love,
karen :-)

ps- still no word on chicago tickets!  uggggg!  i am getting restless!

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 00:12:57 edt
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hey all!!!

so i work in a book store and was able to get my hot little hands on a copy of
that women and tattoo book that has amy's pic in it.  wow!!!  it is jsut the
section of arm with the tat on it, not face or anything.  and too boot, the
book is kinda cool over all!  lucky me!

i will be giving it to my buddy dan to copy onto the pc with his flat bed
scanner.

this should take just a few days them i will post so u can email me if you
want it.

please do not email me for it now!!!

just an fyi !

babs

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 00:19:06 edt
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so here is my .02....

i think the reason nat does not come out for ctf is that her set is next and
she might not want to break her concentration before she goes on.

i know she has come out a few time during other peoples sets at other lf
shows, but seeing that her set is right after the girls, maybe she is dressing
or preping her voice.

or maybe she is just odd!

babs

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 01:22:23 edt
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is there even the faintest possibility that anyone knows if there is a way of
getting a copy of the girls singing the aforementioned "american tune"???? i
hope, i hope, i hope!!!


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peace,
*erica*

"maybe move to the right, maybe move to the left,
so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 04:14:20 edt
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hello again!

i have emailed moondust form the indigo girls tour dates page and i have sent
them the quote about the trip to europe.

so i guess we shall see if this works and maybe for our buddies in europe we
can get some info soon.

i will keep you posted and let you know when i hear back!!!!

babs:  who is in the nyc area but still wondering about this trip all the
same!

http://ftp.wi.net/~dreiser/ig/dates.html     <~~~  web site addy for tour info
for those of you who are new or live under a large heavy unmovable rock!

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 09:36:10 +0100
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i know this has alreay been said about three times, but are they
coming???
i've never seen the girls live, please tell me it's true they're coming to
europe.

sharon

"i could teach her how i learned to dance when the music's ended"
cool as i am, dar williams
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wish i could harvest some of them for small talk"
ani difranco

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 04:48:27 edt
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<<can you believe that apparently nobody in the entire world has misheard an
indigo girls lyric?>>

  not true. when i first started getting into the indigo girls i couldn't
figure out what they were saying in ctf. i always thought durring the part
where they say, "the less i seek my source from some definitive," that they
were saying , "the less i seek my source from someone's fingernails." i don't
know where i got that from. it took me untill embarasing myself at a concert
to figure that one out! anyway, i just wanted to share.
                                                        love,
                                                            katy

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 05:42:02 -0400
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on the saturday merriweather concert at the very end when they all came
out with sarah to do mavin gaye-natalie was quite the prankster she
snatched a paper with lyrics from one of the second stage artists who
was about to sing!! sarah and natalie were cracking up.
karen#2 (who is still beaming cause natalie picked up her bear she threw
her onstage)

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 08:25:44 edt
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ill be outta town playing some ole european soccer for the next few days, so
anyone who has any questions about late donations or would still like to have
theirs in by friday, make sure you talk to jill.  her email address is
jillyc@hotmail.com

thanks folks, and have a good one.

troop

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 09:10:41 edt
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hey,

still no info on the show.....i will keep everyone posted.

brian

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 09:16:28 -0400
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this is what the setlist was, as i recall....

chickenman
galileo
shame of you
ghost
sys
gotm
take a load off annie
water is wide
closer to fine

this could be wrong, sorry if it is.  did anyone see that rockin puppy
dog on em's amp?  and what was with that surgical glove balloon being
beaten around during ghost???  anyone down in front know where
that started?  fortunately it came to a rest on the stage before the song
ended.

vicki

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 09:20:25 edt
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unfortunately, i have just spoken to russell carter management, and they have
stated that the girls have no plans to tour europe this year!

looks like we'll have to wait yet another year (3 years and counting)

luckily i'm going over for newport

sorry to dissapoint fellow european fans

gilly

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 17:03:38 +0200
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um, can you email me privately.  i have a question, and i never took note
of your addy.

thanks!
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of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

                                *****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
- kristen hall "just so you know"

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 09:25:10 -0600
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cancer
( june 22-july 22)
  major opportunities to make shrewd investments are presented to you
this week. take time to investigate each one and go with the best. if
you are not already in business for yourself you are thinking about it
and one of those opportunities could be finding the right partner to
help you get your enterprise up and running. be aware of a someone close
to you who may need your help at this time, could be he is too proud to
ask. you will have some vivid dreams and most will relate to your
questions about going into business for yourself. try to spend time in
meditation and pray for guidance.

leo
(july 23-aug 22)
  before you condemn and criticize any one person first try to cut
through the rumor and get to the truth. the person you think is out to
do you in may not be the one after all. in fact you may simply be
feeling paranoid with no real reason except, perhaps ill health. had a
checkup lately? it should be nothing serious but you should see to it.
you may be a little out of sorts this week because you have a lot of
things on your mind and you need to resolve certain questions that may
be hanging in there. your dreams present you with scenes of a perfect
life and you recognize these as simple wish fulfillment's.

many happy returns to the following!!!

july 21
tschshrcat@aol.com<--- is this twink?  i'm not sure, but....

july 21--- twink!!!!!!
actually barb... but i'm not sure of her email!!


could we forget?  aren't we all just giddy with glee?  have i had too
much caffeine???
july 22 ('63)
igfan@rcam.com (emily saliers)

and, i have a personal request... my beloved little sister's birthday is
july 21st, and if you would like to make me very, very, happy, you could
email her at jason.deaton@nashville.com.  her name is lucy, and she's
very wonderful, and would be most appreciative!! :)


if you would like to be added to the list, please contact me at
joanne.cusick@cexp.com.  include your name, email and maybe a little
quote thingy... and i'll be more than happy to add you.. i know more of
you were born in july than this!!!  ok, leos.... come out, come out
wherever you are...

"i'm either dreaming, or stupid, i think i've been by cupid,
but no one needs to know right now.."
-shania twain

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in a message dated 98-07-20 05:03:07 edt, kayetea@aol.com writes:

<< i always thought durring the part
where they say, "the less i seek my source from some definitive," that they
were saying , "the less i seek my source from someone's fingernails." >>

sorry, that's just so funny!!!!! :d but see, on the  1200curfews cd, i
couldn't tell that it said "closer to fine", i thought it said "closer to
fire". i know that isn't so funny, but you're not the only one who screws up
these things.

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*erica*

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so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
-indigo girls,
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome/
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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 11:05:14 -0500
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i don't know if this has been covered or what, but i called ticketmaster
and asked about the suffragette sessions on saturday and the lady went and
talked to her supervisor and her supervisor apparently told her that tix
go (went) on sale at 10 am today (monday). i'm sure you can call the riv
and get tix there to avoid some ticketmaster charges. i just had $10 worth
per tickets on my last set of tckets so i am a bit bitter, but tori was
wonderful. good luck.

k-bye!
kristi
"do or do not, there is no try"
              --yoda

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>looks like we'll have to wait yet another year (3 years and counting)

last time ig was in belgium was '94.....and it seems that they aren't =
coming over at all in the near future....
ig fans in europe don't count,huh?
:(((((

danny

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> <<can you believe that apparently nobody in the entire world has misheard an
> indigo girls lyric?>>
>
> in a message dated 98-07-20 05:03:07 edt, kayetea@aol.com writes:
>
> << i always thought durring the part
>  where they say, "the less i seek my source from some definitive," that they
>  were saying , "the less i seek my source from someone's fingernails." >>

ok -- i have to admit my own mistake, which i now think is actually quite
hilarious.  i hope it's not too, um, inappropriate.

in "blood and fire" amy sings "won't you wet my fire with your love."
i, however, always sang "won't you wet my thigh with your love" until i
read the words.

shows you where my mind is :)

diana

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 13:09:06 -0400
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hey everybody,
thought you might be interested. i read that there was an unconfirmed date
in new york city for the suffragate sessions tour, so i called the
roseland ballroom and they said the date was confirmed. the show is
supposed to be on september 3rd at the roseland ballroom in new york city.
they told me that tickets go on sale july 31st at noon and they are $22.50
each and the show is general admission. they said you can get them either
through ticket master or the irving plaza box office (this is the same
venue that the virginia slam! show was held at), not trhough the roseland
box office. so, if anyone has any questions the number for the roseland
ballroom is:

(212) 247-0200 or

(212) 247-2556

hope this helps. if you want to e-mail me privately you can do so at:

cch211@is8.nyu.edu (address all lowercase)

also, when i asked, i asked for indigo girls and i think they said it was
listed under either amy ray or emily saliers, so try either way.

take care,
chloe

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 13:14:05 -0400
reply-to:     "j.pyles" <jpyles@cougarnet.netexp.net>
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is there anybody who is planning on booting this show?
i am going to try, but i figured if a few of us tried that maybe we'd get
at least one good boot out of it.  let me know what ya'll think.  maybe
even sneaking a vid. cam. in would be cool.

j&t

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 13:39:46 edt
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in a message dated 98-07-17 21:26:37 edt, it was writen:

<< hi indigo girls' fans!
*snip*  ...  i've written a script that is about you!  it's about two
women who follow the indigo girls around on their honor the earth tour.  we
hope to begin filming next june.   >>

so...... this is going to be a horror flick ?

};)
c

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 10:44:30 -0700
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yeah, really.  and you wonder why amy and emily fear their fans sometimes.

hmmm.

carolyn

on mon, 20 jul 1998 mmedido@aol.com wrote:

> in a message dated 98-07-17 21:26:37 edt, it was writen:
>
> << hi indigo girls' fans!
>  *snip*  ...  i've written a script that is about you!  it's about two
>  women who follow the indigo girls around on their honor the earth tour.  we
>  hope to begin filming next june.   >>
>
> so...... this is going to be a horror flick ?
>
> };)
> c
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hey kind friends,

i have two extra tickets to the lilith fair in atlanta.  the seats are sec.
202, row gg, seats 27 & 28.  imo they are pretty decent seats.  let me know
asap so we can work something out.  with all the tm charges they are 46.50
each.

lilith fair
doors at 3:00pm
coca-cola lakewood
rain or shine*parking incl
fri jul 24 1998 3:30pm

artists:  meredith brooks, queen latifah, bonnie raitt, natalie merchant,
sarah mclachlan
holly mcnarland, holly cole, rebekah, christian durand, trish murphy, anggun
8-)

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 14:45:40 -0400
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really?  hummmmmm...because i called ticketmaster a few mins ago, and they
knew nothing!  uggggggg, why must it be so damn hard to get some info on
ig tickets???!!  ohg well, i guess i'll keep on trying...

also if anyone hears anything, can you please also e-mail me privately as
well as post it to the list?  the reason is i am on the digest form and i
wanna know as soon as someone knows something!

love,
karen

n, 20 jul 1998, kristin m. wrote:

> i don't know if this has been covered or what, but i called ticketmaster
> and asked about the suffragette sessions on saturday and the lady went and
> talked to her supervisor and her supervisor apparently told her that tix
> go (went) on sale at 10 am today (monday). i'm sure you can call the riv

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but you're not gonna stop me from having fun!"
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"i felt like kerokeroppi on crack."  -- me :-)
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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 15:31:10 +0000
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hey y'all,

just got off the phone w/ticketmaster. they said the only show that
comes up for chicago under suffragette sessions is at the rave on 8/27.
anyone know about this? where is the rave, and does that mean they're
not playing chicago on 8/25 & 26? enlighten me if you can, please.

thanks,
sandy

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so, my bro was watching the repeat of the vh1 top however many (is it
100?) artists of all time yesterday....it was great to be sittin' on my
arse in the dining room only to hear amy's voice soaring unexpectedly
throughout my house. :) heh heh...i love it when that happens.
so, i think it was the clip of amy and emily sharing their ideas and
opininions of the band.  all you boalsbugites should be happy to hear
that, considering the fact that they covered "the weight" at that
unfrickinbelievable show.  directly after her statements there was a
little clip of the band singin' this song and i got goosebumps like
never before...haven't heard it since the lovely michelle/i.g.
pennsylvania rendition.  ugggh. :)  take me back to that glorious day.
:)

so, man...that's it.
bethany :)

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table here, people don't wonder if it's half filled or half empty...they
just hope it's good beer."  ~~ sherman alexie


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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 15:49:37 -0400
reply-to:     joe <fortunate1@mindspring.com>
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hey folks,

here's a couple packages you might find interesting. i tried to keep a
theme to each one. let me know if you have any questions. order info is
included below.

the independent package: all records are in very nice shape

the original indigo girls e.p. on dragon path music
the original strangefire on indigo records
don't eat out of dented cans - with 2 ig tracks
crazy game 7" single - first ig release ever
postage included - $550

early epic promo package: records show average wear - no major problems

indigo girls live - (white album with blue stamp on it)
kid fears 4 song e.p. w/ r.e.m. tour dates sticker
land of canaan plus 5 live
postage included - $99

hitchhiker cd package

hitchhiker exampler
hitchhiker exampler 2
hitchhiker sampler 2
hitchhiker radio saga 3
postage included - $50

test pressing package: covers show regular wear - records are fine

rites of passage white label 12" vinyl in white sleeve
nomads, indians, saints white label 12" vinyl in black sleeve
postage included - $75

swamp ophelia american single package: all american released singles

least complicated
reunion
power of two
touch me fall
postage included - $45 <-- sold) (available --> (without reunion $25)

4.5 promo package

4.5 full album promo digipak
closer to fine promo digipak
postage included - $45

galileo package

galileo promo cd single - jewel case
galileo promo cd single - digi pak
galileo 4 song e.p. made in austria - thin jewel case is damaged
galileo made in holland 7" single
galileo 5 song cassette e.p. - sticker and slight damage on back of
cover
postage included - $69

epic vinyl package

strangefire epic 12" vinyl
self titled 12" vinyl
nomads indians saints 12" vinyl
swamp ophelia personally autographed 12" vinyl
postage included - $59

swamp ophelia vinyl package

swamp ophelia signed green vinyl
swamp ophelia signed black vinyl
swamp ophelia holland import
postage included - $70

random sampler package

tame yourself w/ i'll give you my skin
theodore w/ kid fears live - damaged jewel case/back insert
pick this w/ ghost
sweet relief ii w/ free of hope
hitchhiker exampler 2 w/ southland in the spring time
postage included - $45

rites of passage cd single package (sold out)

nomads cd single package (sold out)


shaming of the sun single package

shame on you american cd single
shame on you australian sleeve pak cd single
get out the map digi pak
postage included - $38

if you'd like to order a package, please write joe at
fortunate1@mindspring.com. you can also fill out the order form on my
site at http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones/order.html  if you'd like
to use a credit card, you can either email the info or for more
security, call it in to 813 906 0257. please feel free to write with
any
questions regarding track listings, condition, etc.
thanks for looking!
we are fortunate ones,
joe
p.s. sorry for the sold markings..i am away from my home while posting
this and need to keep track of what i ran out of.

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return-path: <memememi@aol.com>
received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5])
        by camel16.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with esmtp id vaa09135
        for <fortunate1@mindspring.com>; fri, 17 jul 1998 21:08:35 -0400 (edt)
from: memememi@aol.com
received: from memememi@aol.com
        by imo15.mx.aol.com (imov14_b1.1) id kmnla20769
        for <fortunate1@mindspring.com>; fri, 17 jul 1998 21:07:04 +2000 (edt)
message-id: <4c3ab27d.35aff539@aol.com>
date: fri, 17 jul 1998 21:07:04 edt
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is this what you want?  what do i get in thanks?  a wood song?  wow!!!!!!!!!
that's much better than a child <grin>

joking, i'm only joking =)

here ya go!! =)
lisa


subject: for sale: indigo girls packages
from: joe <fortunate1@mindspring.com>
date: thu, jul 16, 1998 18:41 edt
message-id: <35ae8198.85a@mindspring.com>

hey folks,

here's a couple packages you might find interesting. i tried to keep a
theme to each one. let me know if you have any questions. order info is
included below.


the independent package: all records are in very nice shape

the original indigo girls e.p. on dragon path music
the original strangefire on indigo records
don't eat out of dented cans - with 2 ig tracks
crazy game 7" single - first ig release ever
postage included - $550


early epic promo package: records show average wear - no major problems

indigo girls live - (white album with blue stamp on it)
kid fears 4 song e.p. w/ r.e.m. tour dates sticker
land of canaan plus 5 live
postage included - $99

hitchhiker cd package

hitchhiker exampler
hitchhiker exampler 2
hitchhiker sampler 2
hitchhiker radio saga 3
postage included - $50


test pressing package: covers show regular wear - records are fine

rites of passage white label 12" vinyl in white sleeve
nomads, indians, saints white label 12" vinyl in black sleeve
postage included - $75


swamp ophelia american single package: all american released singles

least complicated
reunion
power of two
touch me fall
postage included - $45 (without reunion $25)


4.5 promo package

4.5 full album promo digipak
closer to fine promo digipak
postage included - $45


galileo package

galileo promo cd single - jewel case
galileo promo cd single - digi pak
galileo 4 song e.p. made in austria - thin jewel case is damaged
galileo made in holland 7" single
galileo 5 song cassette e.p. - sticker and slight damage on back of
cover
postage included - $69


epic vinyl package

strangefire epic 12" vinyl
self titled 12" vinyl
nomads indians saints 12" vinyl
swamp ophelia personally autographed 12" vinyl
postage included - $59


swamp ophelia vinyl package

swamp ophelia signed green vinyl
swamp ophelia signed black vinyl
swamp ophelia holland import
postage included - $70


random sampler package

tame yourself w/ i'll give you my skin
theodore w/ kid fears live - damaged jewel case/back insert
pick this w/ ghost
sweet relief ii w/ free of hope
hitchhiker exampler 2 w/ southland in the spring time
postage included - $45

rites of passage -1 cd single package (sorry, no three hits left)

joking cd single
ghost cd single
galileo jewel case cd single
postage included - $50


nomads cd single package

hammer and nail
watershed/(live)/all along the watchtower
postage included - $35


shaming of the sun single package

shame on you american cd single
shame on you australian sleeve pak cd single
get out the map digi pak
postage included - $38


if you'd like to order a package, please write joe at
fortunate1@mindspring.com. you can also fill out the order form on my
site at http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones/order.html  if you'd like
to use a credit card, you can either email the info or for more
security, call it in to 813 906 0257. please feel free to write with any
questions regarding track listings, condition, etc.
thanks for looking!
we are fortunate ones,
joe


> .i would get down on my
>  knees and beg..i would turn over my first born...isn't that how you do
>  it?? :)
>  talk to you soon,
>  joe
>  p.s. just got another hammer and nail and land of canaan 7"
>  single..woohoo
>
>

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 15:58:49 -0400
reply-to:     joe <fortunate1@mindspring.com>
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hey,

did that list come twice to everyone?? if so, the second one is my
competition..you don't want to buy from them, they don't like cats or
children..boo hiss.
we are fortunate ones,
joe

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 16:43:17 -0400
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i think thatthe rave is in milwaukee and that ticketmaster is telling us
chicago people about it because it comes up in th chicago area ticket
reigon.  i am still waiting for information regarding the 2 riv dates.
anyway, hopefully within the next week or so... yeah, but this is getting
really annoying.  i can't even tell y'all how many times i have called
chicago tm long distence and checked the web site.  i am sooo worried that
it'll sell out within a few hours or so because the riv is not very big (i
saw the violent femmes there a few years ago, and i remember being in the
way back and still feeling very close to the band...of course with ig, i
better be up near the front, especially since i am only 5 feet tall!).

alos i am pretty sure that it will be an all ages event (even though i
turn 21 on the 20th!  wooooo hoooooooo!)  does anyone have any word on
that?   events at the riv are usually all ages, right?

okay, bye!  i'll keep searching!

love,
karen :-)

ps- there are a few ads in the goldmine magazine to order the red sys
remix.  i don't have the specific addresses but if you pick up a gold mine
and look through the ads, you'll most likely find it. i am talking about
the issue with the article on the girls...

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"your actions will follow you full circle round."
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"and maybe you can keep me from never being happy,
but you're not gonna stop me from having fun!"
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"i felt like kerokeroppi on crack."  -- me :-)
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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 16:58:46 edt
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i heard on 99x this afternoon that there is going to be an imortant
announcement regarding the indigo girls.  it will be on 99x tomorrow (tuesday)
morning after 6am.....

anybody have a clue what this is about??

think they will play lilith after all?????

keeping my fingers crossed!!

~~robin

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 16:03:03 -0500
reply-to:     kristin marie wade <kmwade@midway.uchicago.edu>
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from:         "kristin m." <kmwade@midway.uchicago.edu>
subject:      chicago show (sorry to those not from chicago...)
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    okay, i just called the riv, and they now have a message which says
that info will be available on "the indigo girls" (in quotes, because i am
assuming this is in reference to the suffragette sessions, which is not
solely ig, but we know what they mean, right?)--and that's info will be
available on friday july 25th. so karen is probably right that they were
talking about milwaukee and i was just in a hurry because people were
waiting for me so i didn't ask for that much info. hope this helps all of
us in chitown. we need to have a listmeet when this all gets squared away.
later!

k-bye!
kristi
"do or do not, there is no try"
              --yoda

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 17:32:17 edt
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the woman i talked to at ticketmaster told me that the rave is in
miluakee.....?  anybody have info?

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okay, please don't think i'm an airhead. i live in seattle. am i correct in
assumeing that the girls aren't comeing anywhere near here on the suffragate
tour? are us seattle people getting screwed just like the europians??!  i need
clarification. thanks!
                                                 love,
                                                     katy

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 17:38:54 edt
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hey y'all!
i know someone already posted about the sunday lilith at merriweather, but i
just have to add my two cents.
i have to say that this was the best concert. this being my second ig
concert, i can only say that they get better and better. they kicked ass last
night. out of all the performers on the main stage, i think everyone got the
most enthusiastic about them because their songs are so great to sing and
dance to. everyone was singing and dancing for them, even more than with
sarah. the concert (main stage) started with liz phair who only played for 30
min. then missy elliot took the stage for like 30 min. too. next were the
fantastic and beautiful indigo girls. they played for 50 min. (7:40-8:30).
they rocked the place. amy had on light blue leather pants (that looked
great!) and a long sleeve multi-color/design shirt with blue platform
hushpuppy-type shoes. emily had on khakis and a white t-shirt. i couldn't tell
what was on it. during the set, natalie merchant came out with a super soaker
water gun and squirted the whole crowd. it was great. amy also broke a string
during shed your skin. after they played, natalie m. followed, then sarah m. a
& e came out to sing with natalie and sarah during their sets. all in all, the
concert was the best i've been to and i can't wait until lilith '99. i was
able to tape the whole set on my tape recorder and took a whole roll of
pictures.
here's the set list:
chickenman
galileo
shame on you
ghost
shed your skin (amy broke a string!)
get out the map
take a load off annie? with others?
water is wide w/ sarah m.
closer to fine w/ others

thanks for listening. i was so excited i had to write in too. bye!

jessie
=)

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 17:56:46 -0400
reply-to:     joe <fortunate1@mindspring.com>
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hey folks,

i keep seeing people posting the take a load off annie song..that's the
weight by the band. it's a fantastic tune that the grateful dead also
often covered as an encore. someone from the crew wrote me about 8
months ago and asked for lyrics to the song..so it's cool that they are
finally doing it.
we are fortunate ones,
joe

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 08:15:26 +1000
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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list but is more appropriate
for here instead...

-sherlyn

>date: mon, 20 jul 1998 19:41:08 -0700
>from: strngwnd <strngwnd@elpaso.net>
>subject: suffragette sessions--chicago
>
>i tried to find out when tickets would go on sale for the 8/25 & 8/26
>chicago dates for the suffragette sessions tour.  the local ticketron
>outlet knew nothing & a the response directly from personnel at the
>riviera indicated that they thought the chicago stop was cancelled!!
>has anyone heard anything different?
>
>strngwnd
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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 18:41:07 edt
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okay womyn and men of the list...for those of you interested in the
minneapolis sst-----the capacity of first avenue is only 1300 (and that would
be including all the little people who run things like the
bar...security...the artists...)...and when i called first ave. they said that
we have to go through tm...which is odd because usually they sell tickets
too...so tm price is $21--which isn't that bad...anyway, i have my
tickets---do you have yours?

peace,
kara.

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 18:43:26 edt
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hello all-

i'm in chicago right now and plan on attending the shows at the riv.....i
called the riv again today (monday).  they told me, "call back on friday. i'll
have more info on tickets then."  so, i guess i'll call back on friday.

one more thing, could anyone email me privately the meaning of suffragate
sessions.....i have no clue what that is.    sorry for being so clueless....

brian
bbelbis@aol.com

thanks in advance

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 15:56:20 -0700
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hi, all,

i haven't been very active posting in this last stint on the list, but i
just wanted to say bye before i sign off for awhile.  i just can't keep
up with the traffic.  to anyone i discussed possible future boot trades
(missy singhaus, linda perrine, anyone else?), hang on to my e-mail
address if you're still interested.  i'll probably check in here again
sometime, and switch to the news-only list for now.

peace, y'all
tom

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 18:07:58 -0600
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hey guys (and more importantly, girls!!! j/k)...i am brand new to the
list, but just had to tell everyone about my excitement today! i got tix
for the milwaukee show at the rave this morning...but man oh man!!! they
were $27!!! just wondering if anyone else is coming to the brew city show
and how much tix are for other legs of the tour.
see ya 'round.
thanks y'all...
katy :)

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heh heh...

who ratted on me?  i'm behind on email but happened to read the digest
that listed me (and/or barb) as having a birthday tomorrow!
just to let you know... it is me...
and it's the big 30 too!

twink!

(who's hoping to get the rest of our unpacking done so i can revert back
to the regular list instead of digest... and, hey mel... thanks so much
for the cyber card wishing us well with our move!)

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 18:14:39 -0500
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i've got my tickets to milwaukee, minneapolis, and cincinnati! i just
need information on the two chicago shows. is anyone else making plans
to do the multiple city road trip thing in these cities? just wondering.
i know you people are out there cuz i met you all during the swamp
ophelia tour in those same cities. it would be cool to meet up with
anyone else who's road tripping too.

assuming i can get chicago tickets, i plan to drive from kansas city, go
to
the two chicago shows, then milwaukee, and then minneapolis. what makes
my journey especially insane is that i'll then hop on a plane for the
cincinnati show on the off date, go to the show there, fly back to
minneapolis the day after that show, then drive back to kansas city. 5
shows in 7 days and x-thousand miles logged. :)

eddie

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 19:38:14 -0400
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hi y'all!

well that is good news that someone knows about chicago tickets!  i really
wanna see the girls in my good old hometown, and i was getting worried.

but i have a question.  okay, the thing is, i am currently in san
francisco (for the summer), and my phone bill is high (like really high)
from all my calls to tm and to other various people.  if i promise to send
you $$$$ for everything, would someone be willing to buy me a ticket to
the wednesday show, and send it via express mail to me?  i'll pay for
everything, and love you for life!  i'll send you a check tomorrow, even
before the tickets go onsale.  i don't wanna order them via the web
because i am worried that tm will put it up on the web site too late and
that it'll sell out... if you could help, that would be great!  i can only
(sob sob) go to the wednesday show becaue i will be driving in from my
school in ohio (indigohio!!!).

thanks sooooo much!

love,
karen :-)

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 16:46:24 pdt
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hi indigo-girls people!,
     thank you for ou're help with my answers about my questions.
everyone knows so much about amy and emily!  i'me impressed!  but some
people feelt the need to be meat to me.  i did not know that my
questions were dumb.  ne wayz, if you helped me, thank you.

     i want to get another disc.  i like the songs on the cds that i
have (shame on you and indigo girlss).  what is you're favorite indigo
girls disc?  i have some money and i need to get one.

:) debs

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 19:51:55 edt
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some people have mentioned emily's shirt and what was on it...it said sea
monkeys and had the little logo from way back in the day... i could see it
perfectly from my place in the pit :)

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 20:01:43 -0400
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okay, i think that i am caught up enough on sleep to let you all know
how wonderful the shows were...karen, you awake?

friday at camden.  hotter'n hadies. we had awesome seats.  the girls
didn't seem their usual selves, seemed to be "working" if you know what
i mean.  after boalsburg, it was a little bit of a let down, only 40
minutes of our girls.  i slipped out of my seat to get up close and take
pictures, and when i came back, what did i see but my anti-indigo girls
15 year old daughter singing and dancing!  so was her friend.
afterwards, she told me that the girls rock, and she didn't know why she
didn't give them a chance before!  now i have company to keep with me
when i road trip!  fast forward to saturday, went right to tower, bought
her her own copy of 1200 curfews, got the free blue ep, gave that to her
too.  she was tickled...today she was bumming that she didn't go to md
with us on saturday.

saturday, different venue, different attitudes from all the performers!
amy and emily were looking so relaxed and happy.  i swear emily looked
me right in the eye at least twice...we were in row e...so close, yet so
far!  honestly, we had awesome seats.  karen2 brought a stuffed bear for
natalie, and asked the security guard if she could give it to her during
her set and was answered with a no.  the guards were a pain in the
butt.  i got yelled at at least 3 times for taking pictures with my
little 35mm camera (instant jobbie)  i finally told the last guard that
mr. kodak was gonna be pissed, since kodak was one of the sponsors.
back to the bear...i egged her on, and she did it!  she snuck up to the
stage and threw the bear to natalie, hit her feet, natalie promptly
picked it up and started dancing with it.  she then gave it to a cute
little kid (hers?) who was sitting on one of the speakers on stage.

sarah was incredible, she looked georgeous in her blue dress during her
set.

i kept telling karen2 that it was the venue, camden is the armpit of nj,
and merriwether post was such a beautiful place.  woods, streams...they
had to be glad to be out of the city and in the country.  the weather
was much nicer on saturday too.

okay, enough rambling.  i'm in love...more in love? with amy and emily
again.  what an awesome show!

can't wait for bethlehem.

love,  karen

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my favorite is 1200 curfews.  i love the "live music"

deb, please lay off the satanic stuff.  we don't go there.  i've been
wanting to reply to your posts about witches, vampires and blood sucking,
and i just have to say that if you were my daughter i'd kick your a$$ to
texas (nothing against texas, its just a long haul from here).

indigo fans are generally into live, love and nature.  if you are joining
us..you need to lay off the nasty stuff.

karen

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many folks don't realize that some of us are very partial to the brands
and relative quality of the tapes they collect and trade and the
machines they're recorded on. my naks would would autoabort if within 2
feet of a sony tape. stick to your guns. i'd of been pissed too (she's
probably dubbing on a boombox) maxells' rule....

thought i'd try and make up for any other flames you've rec'd

andrew

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ya'll if you have not gotten patty griffin's new cd flaming red, get
it!!!!! i didn't buy it when it first came out cuz i was bidding on
advance copy @ ebay..i got it today..and all i can say is wow!! it
sounds totally different from lwg..but it's still her! it's great!! i
love it!!!

*hugs*

lamia

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think i'll do a little dyin' today..."
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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 18:58:07 -0700
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first i just wanted to let people know that i havent forgotten about
the finger lakes boot...it's really busy right now - had a tough week
last week - then went to lilith in md this past weekend...just got
back today and am trying to just relax...i will email you!  *smile*

merriweather - was awesome.  i was there on sunday...aside from the
incredibly intense heat...i had a wonderful time.  i mean you just sit
there and sweat...imagine dancing! - i was so *stinky* by the time we
went home!  ig was my favorite part of the day...(shocked?)...it was
the first time i saw natalie and sarah live - they were cool too -
loved sarahs outfit...and orange and pink 'get-up'...*loved* amy's
blue leather pants...*grin*.  amy and emily were so cute when they
joined natalie for 'thank you'...em was wearing a yellow hat...amy had
changed her clothes to khaki-looking pants and the 'give me liberty'
tshirt...(same as at boalsburg last weekend!) - they walked in sharing
a microphone...again another highlight for me...*smile*

some other people have already mentioned the set list so i wont do
that all over again...it was a great day...am now looking forward to
newport and bethlehem - woo woo!

the concert was a nice change of pace from last week...again i would
like to thank people for their kind words last week...really - yall
are good stuff!

take it easy - and if youre waiting for a response regarding the
rochester fingerlakes boot...ill try and get back to ya this week -

rock on.
sunny


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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 19:09:52 -0700
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hello all!
i was doing my usual search through the 'i' section in the record store
today, and i scored not one, but two extra red sys cds.  soooo, if any of
you folks are still looking for it, i've got 2 of 'em!  i'm always looking
for interesting trades, but you've got nothing to trade, email me anyway!
later!
leslie


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over things"
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i use a cd dull cassette tape player. it is shaped as a boombox, but it
isn't to heavy to be one. anyways if my equipment isn't fine to use then do
not send the tapes. i do not know what system everyone else uses so i am
interested. what does everyone else use when they copy tapes.

i like maxwell xii and the tdk xii i hate sony, but i needed to get
something to do the ones that didn't send maxwell xii tapes to be fair in
my pocket book. missy

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in a message dated 98-07-20 20:03:53 edt, you write:

<< what is you're favorite indigo
girls disc? >>


well, i reccomend rop......but if you want a *compilation*, 1200c is the
best - it's about $24 most places because it's a double cd type-dealie, but it
has stuff from sf right down to so. reall great, plus you get to hear amy's
*delightful* voice! and don't forget emily, she's *groovy* too! (sorry y'all,
i'm on a caffeine high, and you'll probably get a bunch of spastic e-mails
from me tonight cause i won't get any sleep cause caffeine is such an upper
for me - i can have it at 2pm and i won't get to sleep until like 4am....even
if i woke up at like 11am, which i usually do....whoa, what a tangent! and it
just occurred to me that debs probably has no idea what any of those little
abbreviations mean.....so fer her and anyone else who's questioning, here ya
go!!!!

sf - strange fire
rop - rites of passage
n*i*s - nomads*indians*saints
so - swamp ophelia
sots - shaming of the sun
soy - shame on you
sys  - shed your skin
tgwtwotwihh - the girl with the weight of the world in her hands (whew...)
dgtgag - don't give that girl a gun
gotm - get out the map
sits - southland in the springtime
wiw - water is wide
ttbt - tried to be true
and of course, everyone's favorite, who could forget..............::drum
roll::............

ctf - closer to fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!

okay, whatever, erica. you can shut up now.

if i forgot any, please don't hesitate to mention them.....hey, cool! i just
thought of a cool one...

pot - power of two.....hmm...subliminal message??? okay, that wasn't funny,
was it??? just the ravings of a lunatic. ;o) well, tata for now!!!!!

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peace, luvies and mucho nachos!!!
*erica*

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so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
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hey folks,

i found this on rocktropolis (http://www.rocktropolis.com)...

-sherlyn

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shonen knife joins suffragette sessions lineup

shonen knife has been added to the indigo girls' suffragette
sessions tour. the tour runs from aug. 19 through sept. 2,
and features indigo girls, luscious jackson's kate
schellenbach, gail ann dorsey, jane siberry, lourdes perez,
lisa germano, mecca normal's jean smith, come's thalia zedek,
and josephine wiggs, formerly of the breeders. (allstar, july
10).

shonen knife -- technically the opening act -- is the only
act on the bill who will perform their own set; the others
will all jam with one another in a revolving-girl jam session.

the japanese group is also slated to tape a segment on comedy
central's viva variety on aug. 18. an air date has not been
set yet. and, after the suffragette tour, the girls will
embark on a headlining club tour with michael shelley. the
band's latest album is happy hour (big deal, june 23) and
their current single is their cover of the monkees' "daydream
believer," for which an animated video has been created.

-- carrie borzillo

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hey everyone,

there is a great interview with sulli on the mtv locals/atlanta web page.   i
thought you'll would like to read it =)

=)
lisa

********************************************************
on the road again: the life of lisa "sulli" sullivan

admit it! we've all done it. we've all daydreamed of being a roadie or tech
for our favorite band. i remember when i was in junior high school, i wanted
duran duran to come to my hometown and sweep me away to travel with them to
exotic locations around the world. i knew john taylor would see me, drop his
model-of-the-minute girlfriend, and i would go lead this glamorous life on the
road. yeah, right!

well, for some of us, this daydream is a reality. but life on the road with a
successfully touring band isn't all the fun and glamour we daydreamed of. in
fact, it's like any other job -- almost -- but more people see and check on
your work. one person living the touring life is lisa "sulli" sullivan, who is
one of the guitar techs for the indigo girls.

recently, i was able to catch up with sulli while she was back in atlanta
during one of the band's tour breaks. sulli spoke candidly about her growth as
a tech, her experiences at lilith fair, and life with the indigo girls.

mtv: what was the deciding factor in you becoming a professional guitar tech?

sulli: it all started with kristen hall. i moved here at the end of 1990 from
raleigh-durham, north carolina. i used to play in cover bands there and made a
decent living. i wanted to become a better songwriter, and since atlanta was
such a hotbed for that, i moved here to make a go of it. i thought if i moved
here i would be inspired to write better, but you have to able to tap into
that deep part of you. i'm not very good at expressing myself, so i can't do
the translation from head to paper well. anyway, i wrote a few mediocre songs,
not good ones, and i played at trackside tavern, opening for wendy bucklew and
natalie farr, for 20 dollars. playing was cool, but my belongings were
beginning to fill the pawnshop. then a friend of mine, who was a fan of
kristen's, said she was looking for a guitar tech. i figured i knew how to
tune a guitar, so i approached her. it all started there. she gave me my
break.

mtv: so kristen was your mentor.

sulli: yeah! she showed me how to be an anal guitar tech. she taught me how to
pack cases, wrap chords -- you know, everything. she used to tech for the
indigo girls. actually, she was amazing because she would go on the road with
the
girls and be the opening act and then go back, break down, and tech the girls'
show. she is very talented. she lives in l.a. now.

mtv: is that why you're not with kristen anymore?

sulli: no. she chose to give up the performing aspect of her career and now
writes for a living. boy, can she write, but life on the road with kristen was
like a rollercoaster ride. she didn't like performing very much and she had
stage fright that made it difficult at times. also, we are friends, so it was
even harder to deal with things because you take things so personally when
you're friends. i got fired and re-hired a lot.

mtv: sounds like you learned a lot from her.

sulli: definitely. i'm still learning today. i mean, kristen threw me into the
fire. i remember my first show was at rhodes college in tennessee. that was my
first real experience with the rock 'n' roll lifestyle.

mtv: how did that evolve into your latest post?

sulli: it was a long road. i did a lot of different things between then and
now. i ran sound at the star bar and at eddie's attic. i delivered pizza for a
local pizza joint. i started doing contractor work, building things, doing
drywall work, etc. oh, and i started a booking agency....

mtv: a booking agency?

sulli: yeah, that was great! it was a fulfilling experience. it was called
underdog entertainment.

mtv: why aren't you doing that anymore?

sulli: i couldn't afford to do it anymore. seriously, i was broke. it was hard
to stop doing it because i loved the bands. i booked for shawn mullins, who is
a talent in his own right. i love shawn -- he's very, very talented. i also
booked for ashley and mark, matthew kahler, and billy pilgram while they were
waiting for their contract with monterey peninsula to go through. i loved all
the music by these artists, so it was a great job, but it was hard to be the
asshole with people. you know, i was charging fifteen percent plus expenses,
and that really didn't add up when whole bands were getting fifty bucks a
night.

mtv: so you had to stop?

sulli: yeah, and after underdog entertainment i went back to doing a lot of
different things to pay the bills. then billy pilgram got signed to atlantic
records and needed to go on a promotional tour. we were friends and they asked
me to go on the road with them. but that was another big learning lesson. i
was still so naive. so green. in fact, after that tour, i basically got fed up
and decided to stop the music-industry thing.

mtv: what got you back in?

sulli: i was asked to stage-manage the atlanta gay and lesbian pride festival
stage. that was rough. i had to work with seventy-two bands in two and a half
days. that was the year that the indigo girls were performing at pride. we
were backstage catching up with each other. i had worked on a festival with
them a year before...

mtv: yeah, rumor has it you saved jackson browne's guitar at that show.

sulli: i don't know about that. i did catch it from falling down. god,
thinking back now, i realize how bad i used to be. i was totally clueless.

mtv: so, how did you get together with the indigo girls?

sulli: when we were catching up at the pride show they said they were going
back on the road and their tech, jimmy descante, wasn't returning. then, a
couple of weeks later, emily told me to call russell, their manager.

mtv: you've been doing this gig for a while. what has it been like?

sulli: at first it was so hard. i had to get the chip off of my shoulder that
i wasn't going to be as good as jimmy. i mean, i idolized him. he was so cool.
as soon as i got beyond that, i began to grow. initially i was very slow, but
fortunately for me, amy and emily were very, very patient. in the beginning i
was their only tech. they've got between twenty to thirty guitars. i had to be
re-stringing everything every day. and with amy, miss stringbreaker that she
is, you've got to change those strings every day. that part of my job would
take several hours. i would miss dinner a lot of the time ... i lost so much
weight that first tour, i was so nervous, so new at the job, and so clueless.

mtv: you certainly don't seem clueless now.

sulli: i am still evolving as a tech. every day and every situation is a
learning experience.

mtv: you're going back on tour soon?

sulli: yeah, we're going back on the lilith fair tour this month.

mtv: what is it like working on lilith fair?

sulli: lilith fair is such a great experience. it is communal in every sense
of the word. everyone is working for a common goal and it's so beautiful.

mtv: so there's no competition, et cetera.

sulli: you know, i prepared for that when we did the first lilith. you know
sometimes people can be assholes and territorial. but at lilith we all were
there to do our jobs and we all bonded. sarah mclachlan handpicks the crew and
the big thing for her is "no attitudes." everybody helps everybody else. i
mean if, you blew tubes in an amp and didn't have spares, somebody would help
out. it was such a laid-back environment.

mtv: that's cool. speaking of environments, what do you think about the
atlanta scene?

sulli: it's a great scene. there is a kind of music for anybody. you can go
out seven days a week and hear a good band. but the scene is not as tight-knit
as it used to be. there isn't one place where everyone goes to hear music or
just hang out. bands aren't loyal to one club, so you can go to any club in
town to see the band you want to see. i guess we're all getting older so we
don't go out anymore. maybe it's like work to go out. i don't know, maybe
that's just me.

mtv: do you have any favorite local bands?

sulli: michelle malone still rocks my world. if i had a big record label i
would sign her right up. shawn mullins, of course. i'm talking more in the
acoustic sense. stereo popsicle. they were in the atlanta production of jesus
christ superstar. amy just signed a band called 3 finger cowboy. they are
really fun.

mtv: i love all those bands. so, in conclusion, what do you think the future
holds for you?

sulli: i don't know. it depends. i could hurt my back and not be doing this
tomorrow. but if i won the lottery tomorrow i'd still want to be working in
the music business. i like teching. i work for great people. so, for today i
think this is what i want to do. tomorrow? who knows.

-- kimiko price
mtv college stringer
feedlocal@mtvmail.com (june 28, 1998)

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date:         mon, 20 jul 1998 22:03:14 -0700
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a good soul from the list (hi connie!) sent me the 1200 curfews poster a
while back. it's really two separate b&w posters of a&e from the cd
cover (amy jumping at the end of a song, e concentrating on her guitar).
i had them mounted separately as two smaller posters. they are hanging
in the family room, and are looking both classy and dynamic.

cheers,

monique

lamia difranco wrote:
>
> this place 1-888-725-7614  has a bunch of promo-posters (so, sots and
> 1200 curfews) and an 8x10 color pic for $5...the # is to call for a free
> catalogue..anyhoo..i'll try n get thru my mail quickly! :p
>

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<< i moved here at the end of 1990 from
raleigh-durham, north carolina. >>

wow, sulli's from our sister city??? groovie!

<< and with amy, miss stringbreaker that she
is, >>

miss stringbreaker??? that's so cool! whoa....

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peace, luvies and mucho nachos!!!
*erica*

"maybe move to the right, maybe move to the left,
so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
-indigo girls,
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome/
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i've had so many great music suggestions from this list and i finally
get to reciprocate. i just heard this band at the incredible vancouver
folk festival this weekend. their name is "rebecca riots". you lucky
folks in the san fran. area have probably heard of them (they're from
berkeley) but this was my first exposure to them and they are great.
folky, rocky, great lyrics, harmonies, acoustic guitars and 3 beautiful
women (besides a&e, what more could you want)! web page with sound clips
is http://www.rebeccariots.com .

also loved ulali (ok a little igc) and sonia from disappear fear
and....well it was a great festival.

helen

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okay, does _anyone_ know what the man on "hey kind friend" is saying those two
times in the song?? it sounds like "it seems like they all...(something
something)"

****************************************
peace, luvies and mucho nachos!!!
*erica*

"maybe move to the right, maybe move to the left,
so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
-indigo girls,
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome/
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hey all!

looking for some new music?  well i have a great one for ya...

it all started about 2 months back when there was a very cool thread on the
ng.  it was looking for ideas on songs you would want to hear a&e cover.  well
my pick was "if i had a boat" by lyle lovett off the cd *pontiac* from 1987.
it is a sweet song and emily would sound just ducky singing lead.

anywho, i got a private email back form a woman who said she was a singer and
she too thought it would be a great song and that she herself had been
thinking about covering it in her sets.  so she and i have been emailing and i
would say have become friends.

so i felt it nessessary to order her cd so i could know more about who she was
and what she sang.  well lucky me she is amazing!!!!

her name is elizabeth white and she lives in ca.  her cd is form 1997 and is
called *the edges of my heart* on what seems like her own label, fuzzy paw
records.

she is a wonderful songwriter as well as singer and i have enjoyed her music
very much. i love how on her liner notes she thanks folks by name, "amy,
emily, melissa, tracy, shawn, et al, for their inspiration."  a few weeks back
she sent me a link to a review where it was said she remined the reviewer of
the early ig music. after having talked to elisabeth, she is a bit overwhelmed
by this comparison.  i for one can see point blank what that reviewer was
talking about.

you can check her out at her web site and get the info on ordering her cd
there as well.  she is a wonderful singer that you would all love!!

thanks for your time!  babs
http://www.elizabethwhite.com/  <~~~~ her web page!
http://www.cdreviews.com/reviews/cdr081.html#ewhite  <~~~ the review web site!
(please don't kill me elizabeth!)

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        >okay, does _anyone_ know what the man on "hey kind friend" is
saying
        >those two times in the song?? it sounds like "it seems like they
        >all...(something)


i've often wondered this too.  i always thought the first one was "i't a
hard (something) but it's going away" and #2 "see you later".  anyone
else have any thoughts on this one?

squid girl


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hey folks,

there's a review of the second merriweather post pavilion
lilith here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/wplate/1998-07/20/109l-072098-idx.html

following is the ig-related excerpt:

--
indigo girls amy ray and emily saliers earned the most fervent
and consistent crowd reaction, thanks to their close harmonies,
spirited playing and ingratiating enthusiasm. their set
included such sing-along favorites as "galileo," "get out the
map" and "closer to fine," the hard-hitting "shed your skin"
and "scooter boys" (whose three-guitar, three-cello, three-drum
setup fueled an allman sisters groove) and the new, elegantly
wistful "gone again." but indigo girls also seemed to best
embody the lilith spirit with a warmly familial reading of the
band classic "the weight" -- with additional verses performed
by phair, second-stage acts rebekah and kacy crowley and
drummer jerry marotta -- as well as a gorgeous "the water is
wide," enriched with soaring vocals by mclachlan and pam
fleming's ethereal trumpet lines.
--

-sherlyn
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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 09:41:05 +0100
reply-to:     sharon bell <njt21@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
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if it helps at all, i read in this month's diva that lilith fair is coming
to europe but it didn't say if ig would be there (and the lilith site
is denying all knowledge of a european tour so maybe they've just got it
wrong).
apologies to the eight million people on the list who *don't* care if ig
get over th water!

sharon

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wish i could harvest some of them for small talk"
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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 22:15:32 +1000
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hi everyone!
i tried to send this last week but i never received a copy myself so i
assume it didn't go thru.  hopefully i'll have better luck this time...
joanna wrote:
>
> hi all
> >
> > >this may be a stupid question, but did amy write the lyrics to wish you
> > >were here?
> > "wish you were here" is by pink floyd.
>
> a few things:
> is there a boot with igs version of this song?  i'd love to hear it.
> i'm also dying to hear their version of blister - does anyone know if
> this is available in australia?
>
> the other thing is i have access to a ntsc/pal video convert for about 3
> weeks.  if anyone has footage of amy and emily (film clips, interview,
> concerts, anything)  on ntsc that isn't available on pal i'd be happy to
> arrange some sort of tree for pal users.  failing that we could arrange
> a trade on an individual level - i don't have much indigo girls related,
> but i have a fairly healthy melissa etheridge collection, if that
> interests anyone.  if not i'm sure we could come to some sort of
> arrangement:)
> i'm fairly new to the list so i hope this isn't out of line, but like i
> said i only have access to the convertor for a few weeks and want to
> make use of it - which means i have to do this in a hurry.
> if you're interested email me privately.  i just hope i'm not stepping
> on any toes of anything :o)
> thanks everyone
> joanna

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it's official!!!

august 5, at the roxy.

indigo girls "and friends"!

i'll be there!!

~~robin

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i have to second that recommendation. we try to catch these guys anytime
they are playing around us. their second cd is just out and even though
they're total indies, i'm amazed at the consistent quality of their
songs. they are a two guitar, three voices band with a mix of folk and
funk sound that's really fun. btw, they are quitting their day jobs and
going on a cross country tour. they asked for volunteers to host them at
house concerts in different parts of the country at their last show. i'm
sure that would be a great experience because these women are really
cool.

monique

hlc wrote:
>
> i've had so many great music suggestions from this list and i finally
> get to reciprocate. i just heard this band at the incredible vancouver
> folk festival this weekend. their name is "rebecca riots". you lucky
> folks in the san fran. area have probably heard of them (they're from
> berkeley) but this was my first exposure to them and they are great.
> folky, rocky, great lyrics, harmonies, acoustic guitars and 3 beautiful
> women (besides a&e, what more could you want)! web page with sound clips
> is http://www.rebeccariots.com .
>
> also loved ulali (ok a little igc) and sonia from disappear fear
> and....well it was a great festival.
>
> helen
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hi.

kid sister is an acoustic (mostly) duo out of north carolina my gf and i
had the pleasure of seeing live and hanging out with after their set
(they had just recently quit their day jobs and gone on their first
cross country tour).  they have two cd's out - 1995's broken bridges and
1997's dashboard buddha.  the ig comparisons are obvious...  they both
play acoustic guitar, and they alternate between who sings lead and who
sings harmony.  you can order their cd's through ladyslipper, and they
have a webpage is at http://www.mindspring.com/~kidsister/ksweb.html

carrie

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ok, so i had a total roches moment yesterday... for those of you who don't
know who the roches are, they are a three sister group who sang backup for ig
on airplane and virginia woolfe, etc... also two of the sisters were backup
for paul simon on here comes rhymin simon, anyway...
   so, my sister is watching cartoons and she calls me in to watch, i come in
and it's a bunch of bugs, you know, ants, bees, beetles, etc, sitting in
little stands in porky pigs kitchen, there is a stage with a closed curtain,
and this little bug guy comes out and says something to the effect of "please
welcome to the stage, maggie, terre, and suzzy roche", and three little
roaches come out and start strumming guitars with four hands!!  they play "we"
from the roches first album and them when porky tries to exterminate them they
sing a song about how roaches always come back and convince him not to kill
them.... anyway, it was really cute and funny, and i give credit for the
cartoon industry for that skit... it's unfortunate that most kids wouldn't
even get the humor, luckily my little sis has heard me talk about them often
enough that she recognized what was going on!
  so that was my roches moment : )
--kate

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 12:03:57 -0500
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subject:      performing songwriter/lesbian news

is there anyone out there who has been able to find the issue of the
lesbian news with ig but not the issue of performing songwriter??  i'm in
the opposite position...they have several issues of performing songwriter
at my local borders but no lesbian news.  anybody wanna trade me lesbian
news for performing songwriter?

:)
kendra

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hey y'all,

i think i've finally caught up with the fifty or so tapes i made the first
time i put this offer out there!  so here is part 2, as promised.  i can
probably handle about 20 more right now.  here's the deal.  i recently put
together a tape of amy's new songs, along with some recent covers, some old
stuff that's not on epic discs, as well as interesting versions of studio
songs.  here's the set list:

problem child (old version)
no way to treat a friend
reunion (acoustic)
cut it out/wish you were here
   universal amphitheater 1/30/98
chickenman  w/soc
   london, nov 1994
gone again
   sydney, australia  2/27/98
ballad of squeaky fromme  1987
dead man's hill (studio acoustic)
shed your skin (tom morello remix)
forgiveness
   orlando, fl 11/29/97
cortez the killer (studio acoustic)
blister in the sun
    la jolla, ca 2/1/98
pushing the needle too far
    from stanley, son of theodore
chiapas bound
    hofstra  3/16/97
touch me fall
heartache central time
fugitive
    london, nov 1994
poor jerusalem from jcs
three hits
faye tucker/scooter boys (cut)
    starkville, miss.  4/19/98
nueva senorita
     melbourne, australia  2/22/98
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if you are interested in getting a copy, let me know and i'll send
particulars.

peace,

pam

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 19:04:32 +0500
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for uk listees the indiglo girls episode should be on this week......
channel 4, friday, 11.40pm (after king of the hill).

dr sharon a. jennings
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so, i'm going through taco bell drive through after work last night.  some guys were digging a ditch out there.  why they were digging at 11 pm is anyone's guess.  anyway, i had ig blaring and windows rolled down.  it was down by the river.  one of the guys said, "hey!  that's down by the river.  i haven't heard that in so long.  but that's not neil young.  who is that?  they kick a$$!"  i said very proudly, "indigo girls."  he said, "but aren't they those 2 old folk singers?"  (i was glad he didn't say *lesbians*).  i told him they weren't old and that "folk singers" was a category that was debatable.  he asked me to play something else to prove it.  i put in sots.  it just happened to be on sys.  he was very impressed.  he was telling me he was going to buy some ig music!

as i was working in the 100+ degree heat in the metal fab factory, i was telling myself anything i could to make it through the night.  i said to myself, "oh, well, this will be interesting information when my memoirs are published!"  (i continuously tell myself things like that).  so i was wondering does anyone know of any odd or obscure jobs a & e may have held before they got their "real" jobs?  i don't remember ever hearing anything about what they did to make ends meet.

toye

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                                                           --amy ray

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hey hey everybody,

i'm reading the diary of virginia woolf volume iv (please tell me that
wasn't on the "you know you're an obssessed ig fan when..." list), and
i was reading along when ms. woolf says of a dora carrington, "she is
a dog in the manger".  i half expected the next line to be "i could
feel the protection, possession and anger". :)  i guess emily's not
the only one with a connection to virginia woolf.

also, i've been looking for a list of all of the girls' television
appearances (tonight show, letterman, rosie o., the original airing of
hard rock live, that kind of thingie). if you have a list of their
appearances, please emaul me pribately.  and you can email me to while
you're emauling me.  (sheez fat fingers this morning)

lori ann
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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 12:10:34 -0600
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just thought i would share.. while on an internet chat room i met a guy
who lived down the street from amy in georgia... i was talking about the
girls and he knew who it was and i was so shocked that i asked how he knew
and he told me where he grew up and that he probabbly would be shot if he
didn't know who amy and emily were. it was really interesting, so i
thought i would share. laters  -jen

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dit is een meerdelig bericht in mime-indeling.

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looking for that 1200 curfews poster from ig.
anyone can help?
thanks...
danny

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                 "music is such a good way to resist.
                           it keeps you strong.
\|ii/                             it has dignity."
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i've seen that one!!!!!! and i thought i

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whoops, sorry about that....i accidentally clicked on the little touchpad on
my laptop, for those of you with 'em, you know what i mean. but i thought i
was the onyl one who noticed that likttle skit thingy!!!!! cool! :) i think it
was that "tiny toons" show....isn't that what it's called????

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so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
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and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
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in a message dated 98-07-21 14:19:06 edt, rczsaj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk
writes:

<< for uk listees the indiglo girls episode should be on this week...... >>

okay, i don't care where it is, there's an indigo girls south park??? are you
serious???? that sounds really cool....even if it's indiglo girls and that's
not a typo. will it ever air in the us????

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peace, luvies and mucho nachos!!!
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and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
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i'm sure this is absolutely nothing that we don't know already....but
pollstar (http://www.pollstar.com) has put suffragette on the front page
of it's site.

l'sly


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sorry i didn't post this yesterday (stranded in peoria--ugh!)....

did anyone else check out the "best of hard rock live" on channel 26?  they
had an ig performance--shame on you--and let me say i am not a lesbian in
any way, shape, or form, but amy looked beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!  anyway i
taped it if anyone's interested...also had a great performance by jewel,
and also k. d. lang, shawn colvin, blues traveler, verve pipe, wilco, inxs
(before michael offed himself), cyndi lauper (yes!)....anyway, it was good,
and i have two vcr's if y'all want a copy....

winona

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date:         wed, 22 jul 1998 07:30:47 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

the message below was sent to the news list but is more
appropriate for here instead... please reply to donna
at d6309@prodigy.net, not to me...

cheers,
sherlyn

====
>from: "donna m schwartz" <d6309@prodigy.net>
>subject: lilith boot- jones beach day 2
>date: tue, 21 jul 1998 09:58:49 -0400
>
>hey listeees,
>i was lucky enough to get tix (1st row in the new noseblled section) for
>this show, and i did tape it.  however, even though the sound quality is
>very good, unfortunately, i missed half of the first song, shame on you
>because ig startde earlier than what was posted and i was still running up
>the 12,000 flights of stairs to get to my seat.  i ahven't had a chance to
>listen to the whole tape yet, but bits and pieces sound good.  it was
>actually a shorter show than i expected; i only filled up 50 minutes of
>tape.  so, i taped 2 sara songs and the last song, the group
>sing-a-long,what's going on.
>btw the trumpet player was awesome.  her name is pam fleming and she is part
>of natalie merchant's band.  being a female trumpeter myself, i was really
>impressed.
>i can start a tree for this show if people are interested-i guess a 60
>minute tape will do-i'll cut out the 2 sara songs and leave what's going on.
>if interested in being a branch plaese email me privately-do not send a
>request to the list.
>take care,
>donna
>

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 17:19:08 -0400
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hi everyone...
please indulge me.  i have a real problem and i hope someone out there can
help.

see, i was out of town when lilith came through ny/nj, so i wasn't able to
get ahold of a blue sys cd.  is there anyone...anyone...out in indigo land
that would be willing to pick an extra copy up at one of the remaining
dates?  to show my appreciation, i'm willing to buy your copy as well
(including the sots copy that is required to get sys).  if your interested
in this great deal, please e-mail me at
smcgill@earthlink.net (please don't reply to this address)
and we'll work something out (i can wire the money beforehand or
something).  y'all have been great in the past, so if anyone can help, i'd
love you forever.

thanks a bunch,
stephen

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 17:52:29 -0400
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subject:      re: south park (uk)
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on tue, 21 jul 1998, owl moontide wrote:

>
> << for uk listees the indiglo girls episode should be on this week...... >>
>
> okay, i don't care where it is, there's an indigo girls south park??? are you
> serious???? that sounds really cool....even if it's indiglo girls and that's
> not a typo. will it ever air in the us????

does anyone have this on tape that might be able to dub this for me?  i
missed that episode (along with many others) and would *love* to get a
copy.

thanks!
kelly

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<< where do you get this??? self-mutilation?  more like intense
heartbreak. >>

well, i don't think so....from every source i've heard, it was sm, and in
addition, amy said she wouldn't sing it anymore....

and read the lyrics!!! "i have spent nights with matches and knives, leaning
over ledges only two flights up, cutting my heart, burning my soul...etc...."
for one thing, burning and cutting aare the most common methods of sm....

"you have spent nights thinking of me, missing my arms but you needed to
leave, leaving my cuts, leaving my burns, hoping i'd learn." it sounds to me
just like sm, like the only thing this guy or girl can do is leave helplessly.
at any rate, the emotions  in the song speak to me as sm, exactly the things
you'd hear from an sm-er.

as always, i could be wrong, what is everyone else's opinion on this??? ok,
i'm not gonna talk about this topic anymore.

****************************************
peace,
*erica*

"maybe move to the right, maybe move to the left,
so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
-indigo girls,
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome/
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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 18:52:07 edt
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<< so i was wondering does anyone know of any odd or obscure jobs a & e may
have held before they got their "real" jobs?  >>

   wasn't amy's dad a radiologist? (i doubt i spelled that right) anyway,
somehow i don't think she had to have a job.

                                                       love,
                                                           katy

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> -----original message-----
> from: indigo girls mailing list [mailto:indigo-girls@netspace.org]on
> behalf of mnoelm@aol.com
> hey y'all,
>
> i think i've finally caught up with the fifty or so tapes i made the first
> time i put this offer out there!  so here is part 2, as promised.  i can
> probably handle about 20 more right now.  here's the deal.  i recently put
> together a tape of amy's new songs, along with some recent
> covers, some old
> stuff that's not on epic discs, as well as interesting versions of studio
> songs.

(snip)

and i can tell y'all from personal experience, its a great tape!! highly
recommended.  :-)

elena

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from:         elena <elena@cruzio.com>
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>
> << for uk listees the indiglo girls episode should be on this
> week...... >>
>
> okay, i don't care where it is, there's an indigo girls south
> park??? are you
> serious???? that sounds really cool....even if it's indiglo girls
> and that's
> not a typo. will it ever air in the us????
>
> ****************************************
> peace, luvies and mucho nachos!!!
> *erica*
>

they are probably referring to the south park episode where the kids have a
substitute teacher (miss ellen ;-) who happens to be a lesbian, and the kids
like her so much they decide to become lesbians, too.  they listened to a
version of closer to fine (by the "indiglo girls", i think) in their
efforts.  ;-)

elena

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>> << for uk listees the indiglo girls episode should be on this
week...... >>
>>
>> okay, i don't care where it is, there's an indigo girls south park???
are you
>> serious???? that sounds really cool....even if it's indiglo girls and
that's
>> not a typo. will it ever air in the us????
>
>does anyone have this on tape that might be able to dub this for me?  i
>missed that episode (along with many others) and would *love* to get a
>copy.


you can download that episode on the web and watch it on your computer
if you have a realaudio/video player. the files should be about 16 mb.

http://www.jrsconcepts.com/southpark.html

the episode is from season #1 episode 11, "tom's rhinoplasty".

eddie

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 19:18:11 -0400
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i got a good dub of the ig set at merriweather post pavillion in columbia,
md on sunday.  it sounds great, but i have to give it an a- because of a
few rude talkers.  it's not enough to be distracting, just a bit annoying
in a very few places.  i've mastered it onto a 55 min. cd as follows:

track 1:        chickenman
                galileo
                shame on you
                ghost
                shed your skin
                the weight (w/ rebekah, kacy crowley, jerry marrotta, natalie merchant)
                water is wide (w/ sarah mclachlan)
                closer to fine (w/ sarah mclachlan, holly mcnarland, et al)
track 2:        what's goin' on (encore, w/ all; lots of emily & rebekah)

i am willing to make cd-r boots of this for about 15 branches, who must
send me a cd-r and an sase.  in turn, branches agree to make at least 15
copies, cds or tapes, for others.  under no circumstances is anyone to
profit from this distribution, it is for your personal enjoyment only.

if you're interested, please reply to this message privately, and (this is
*important*) specify whether you can make cd and/or tape copies.  i'll post
to the list when all branches have been selected.  please do not reply if
you don't know how a tree works, or if you're getting ready to go back to
school and won't have time, or if you don't have decent equipment, or if
you just bought this cd-writer thing and you think you can figure out how
to work it, or if you can't get around to mailing me your media for a
while... a tape tree works best if the root and branches are somewhat
professional about the endeavor.

with all that said, if you still want to be a branch <g>, send me a message
privately and i will notify you *only* if you are selected.  if you are not
selected as a branch, watch for the leaf announcement, which should go out
around late august.  with 15 branches there should be plenty to go around,
so please, serious inquiries only for branch positions.

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 16:17:32 -0500
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a south park w/ig????  am i the only one who is thinking of the "lesbian"
episode with natasha henstridge as the lesbian sub teacher?

winona

"i've been licking this carpet for 20 minutes, and i still don't feel like
a lesbian."
--eric cartman, south park, colorado

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 16:36:39 pdt
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"sharon jennings wrote:

for uk listees the indiglo girls episode should be on this week......
channel 4, friday, 11.40pm (after king of the hill)."

does anyone know when this will air in the us??

thanks!

sheri g
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i believe a fellow listee tried to contact me a day or 2 ago right as my
'puter froze up.  so whoever you were -- i wasn't ignoring you!  :)
my apologies to the 900+ who have nothing to do with this post.  :)
peace,
lisa j.
who's psyched for vacation -- 3 days & counting!

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hello--

if anyone's got extras please let me know.

thanks, kevin

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a&e odd jobs.....

if my memory does not fail me (could check the lifeblood archives, i guess),
i think emily worked in a grocery store and amy worked in a pizza place -
probably high school days. amy also said in an interview that she worked in
the great escape record store in nashville while going to vanderbilt.

n.

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for odd and uncontrolled reasons you're singing the "do-re-mi" song (you
know, "do, a deer, a female dear...") with a bunch of classmates and when
you get to the second phrase, you sing/think smiling, "ray, a drop of
golden sun!"  i honestly thought to myself, "why, yes, she is.  isn't
she?"  :) :) :)

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -amy ray

-my life is more than a vision -emily saliers

-i am a problem child/ i've been wild all my days/ all my anger and my
rage/ my senses said it would lead me astray/ i said go, go, go -a.r.

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or when you're working in a library and someone checks out a book and you
notice that the author's name on the spine is "difranco" and you smile
because you're thinking of ani :)

kim
http://www.geocities.com/wellesley/5420

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i have the new ks choce cd and im willing to elt it go for 3 ig boots i
dont have its still shirnk warrpped  never been listend to
im looking for special boots
one wiht the floyd song wish you were hwree
one wiht the femmes song blister in the sun
and hopefulyl ( if its been booted) the one that has take a load off fanny

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hey everybody,
i know that i posted about this yesterday, but some of you had some
questions for me. i do have some new info on the nyc tour date. okay,
someone yesterday wrote me and said that they tried to call roseland and
they were a bit confused and said that the date wasn't confirmed, when
they told me it was. well, i calle dthe roseland ballroom again today.
they told me that it was confirmed for september 3rd. but, this time it
wasn't listed under indigo girls or amy ray and emily saliers. it was
listed under the sufferage sessions tour. so, i asked when the tickets
were going on sale to see what they would say and the lady told me she
thought july 28th when they told me the 31st yesterday. she was confused
and told me to call the irving plaza box office directly, where they are
supposedly selling tickets. the reason they are selling them here is
because the roseland box office is closed. so, i called them and got a
machine first and then called back later and the lady here told me
something different. she said that they had a tentative listing in the
computer for the date. she said that being in the computer meant that it
was close to being confirmed, but at this rate who knows? she had no idea
when tickets were going on sale and said that i should call back within a
few days to one week. so, if any of you want to call the irving plaza box
office the number is:

(212) 777-6800  (if you get a machine try again)

or if you want to try the roseland ballroom itself, again the numbers are:

(212) 247-0200

or (212)247-2556

sorry this is so long winded, if anyone gets different info i'd love to
hear about it, either privately at:

cch211@is8.nyu.edu (address all lowercase)

or post in on the list.

anyway, thanks for listening and take care,
chloe

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hey guys--
i got this from the dan bern mailing list....
thought you might be interested.  if you haven't already heard of dan,
please check him out, he's a singer-songwriter with the funniest,
creative songs i've heard...from a guy ;).  ani difranco produced his
latest cd, if that does anything for ya.

jill

>from: "dbhq" <danbern@gte.net>
>to: dbhq@garden.net
>date: sun, 19 jul 1998 13:14:14 -0700
>subject: the bern bulletin
>
>hey there, bern heads!
>
>things have been busy over here at dbhq, and there are lots of
>new things that you should know about!
>
>the official dan bern headquarters homepage!
>
>yes, we at dbhq have been spending a little more time hanging
>out on the internet lately! we are proud to announce our brand new
>homepage, which you can see for yourself at
>http://home1.gte.net/danbern/index.htm
>
>this page contains dan news (what's that boy up to these days?),
>up to date tour info, stories, merch info, complete lyrics to all three
>cds, and much, much more. we anticipate that it will continue to
>grow rapidly! so, go and be the first on your block to see it! and if
>you have any comments (especially praise) or  suggestions,
>please email us!
>
>also, everyone out there who has a homepage or a dan bern page
>is invited to link our site to yours. and if you have a dan site that
>we don't know about, please let us know and we'll check it out!
>
>new email address
>
>as you've probably noticed, there's a new dbhq email address,
>which is danbern@gte.net. some of us over here just disapprove of
>aol. however, kababa1011@aol.com is still a valid address, and
>you may use either address to send email to dbhq or to dan
>himself.
>
>is it someone from a magazine?
>
>run out and pick up a copy of august's acoustic guitar
>(there's a blue and green guitar on the cover). on page 46, you'll
>find a rather long article on dan, which includes sheet music to oh
>sister.
>
>i live on the highway now....
>
>dan kicked off his solo summer tour last week with five california
>shows. as we type, he's on his way out east for the rest of the
>tour, which will go something like this....
>
>7/20/98      newark, de
>
>7/21/98      philadelphia, pa
>
>7/22/98      annapolis, md
>
>7/24/98      calgary folk festival
>
>7/28/98      seabright, nj
>
>7/30/98      cambridge, ma
>
>7/31/98 &    new york, ny
>8/1/98
>
>8/2/98       pawling, ny
>
>8/4/98       northampton, ma
>
>8/5/98 &     piermont, ny
>8/6/98
>
>8/8/98       toronto, on
>
>9/5/98 &     laytonville, ca
>9/6/98
>
>for specific locations, times, and ticket info, please go to
>http://home1.gte.net/danbern/tour.htm
>
>changes in subscription..
>
>if you don't want to be on this list, or if you know someone else
>who wants to join, go to
>http://gate.garden.net:81/guest/remotelistsummary/dbhq for all
>subscription changes. if you have any problems, write to
>danbern@gte.net and we will promptly remedy the situation!
>
>this is all for now! see you soon!
>
>it ain't braggin' if it's true,
>
>dbhq
>
>http://home1.gte.net/danbern/index.htm
>danbern@gte.net
>
>1156 26th st #411, santa monica, ca 90403
>
>
>


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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 21:56:02 -0400
reply-to:     longwell.ls@juno.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "lance s. longwell" <longwell.ls@juno.com>
subject:      more red and blue

ok, since i keep getting e-mails from people begging for more cds, i
wanted to clear things up.  all of the cds that i had have been spoken
for.  in my last message, i said i would contact those individuals who
had already registered, if they didn't want them, i would open it up to
the whole list.  unfortunately, pretty much everyone (with only 3
exceptions) wanted them.  so.....i don't have any more red or blue cds.
if i should get some, i will continue to offer them out in the same way
that i have before.  hopefully, eventually, someday, everyone on this
list will get a copy of each for their very own.

cheers,
l'sly

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 21:45:22 -0400
reply-to:     longwell.ls@juno.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "lance s. longwell" <longwell.ls@juno.com>
subject:      south park

hkf,

south park did do an episode about lesbians.  it aired in the us last
april for 4 nights on comedy central.  as eddie correctly pointed out, it
was season 1, episode 11:  tom's rhinoplasty.  the episode stars, "the
chick from species" (quoting matt when on the jay leno show):  natasha
henstridge.  henstridge plays miss ellen, the substitute teacher who
fills in when the regular teacher and mr. hat go awol to become david
hassellhoff (appologies to our german list members for an incorrect
spelling).

on a personal note, the creators of south park are trey parker and matt
stone.  they are attended my alma matter:  the university of
colorado!!!!! (come on garian and my other boulderites.....chip on in
here!!!).  i can proudly say that i knew them way back when and i was in
chem 140 back in december of 1995 when they showed the *very* original
spirit of christmas.  this was the original with rough animation before
they re-made it.  ig is huge in boulder, so they were the likely choice
when "token lesbians" were needed.

and one bit of info most people don't know:  south park, colorado
actually does exist (it's a county, not an actual town).  the people who
live there are as crazy as they are portrayed in the show.  there were
some "alien" incidents there back in the early '90s which is where the
show derives it's content.  as for the south park, let's just say that
the county is *very* conversative.

oh, i'm just full of trivia!!!

boulderites......prepare the red carpet!!!  i'm coming back on august
20th!!!  (let's hope they let me graduate this year!).

l'sly  <----- who has spent the better part of the 1990's in college

lance s. longwell
longwell.ls@juno.com
harlem, new york city, usa

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 20:13:26 pdt
reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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from:         lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
subject:      re: sm
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i agree with erica!!

*hugs*

lamia


"and greg he writes letters and burns his cds
they say you were something in those formative years
hold onto nothing as fast as you can.."
--tori amos, pretty good year

http://fly.to/ladylamia
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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 20:16:30 pdt
reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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i could be wrong cuz i've been known to be..but didn't amy work at a car
wash? or washing windows..i thought that went into soy. cuz she said
they'd listen to the pixie's doolittle..hence the doolittle all day?????
am i just dreaming this???

lamia


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they say you were something in those formative years
hold onto nothing as fast as you can.."
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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 20:23:41 pdt
reply-to:     jill again <jillyc@hotmail.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jill again <jillyc@hotmail.com>
subject:      amy, the s/m queen???
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>read the lyrics!!! "i have spent nights with matches and knives...
>cutting my heart, burning my soul...etc...."
>burning and cutting are the most common methods of sm....
well, there's a difference between self-mutilation and sadomasochism.
one is done in pain, the other pleasure (good god are we actually
discussing this?...)  if anything, the lyrics would imply the former.
but i doubt that explanation too.  don't take the lyrics at face value.
burning one's soul? cutting one's heart?  it's not possible to do that,
which prompts me to believe the words are metaphorical, not literal.

>like the only thing this guy or girl can do is leave helplessly.
>the emotions  in the song speak to me as...exactly the things
>you'd hear from an sm-er.
just to clear this up:
sm/bd is something people enter into out of their own *free will*.  they
do it because they *want* to, not because they are mired in self-hatred
and depression.  the majority are actually normal, happy people (believe
it or not).  and their partners are usually involved in the scene as
well, so they don't tend to helplessly leave over such things.
(fyi, oberlin college has a sm/bd club... i'm not kidding.)

jill

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 23:34:55 edt
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from:         owl moontide <indigo0521@aol.com>
subject:      clear it up, y'all
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for those of you who this doesn't apply to, ignore this...

when i said i thought "blood and fire" was about sm, i meant self-mutilation,
not sadism/masochism. i apologize, i'm used to talking with the self-
mutilation community, where we freely refer to it as sm. ;o)

****************************************
peace,
*erica*

"maybe move to the right, maybe move to the left,
so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
-indigo girls,
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome/
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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 23:32:04 edt
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in a message dated 98-07-21 23:23:45 edt, jillyc@hotmail.com writes:

<< sm/bd is something people enter into out of their own *free will*.  they
do it because they *want* to, not because they are mired in self-hatred
and depression.  the majority are actually normal, happy people (believe
it or not).  and their partners are usually involved in the scene as
well, so they don't tend to helplessly leave over such things.
(fyi, oberlin college has a sm/bd club... i'm not kidding.)
  >>

no honey, self-mutilation...i seem to be getting this a lot....whoops, i
thought i made myself clear, but i guess not. :)

****************************************
peace,
*erica*

"maybe move to the right, maybe move to the left,
so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
-indigo girls,
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome/
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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 20:52:42 -0700
reply-to:     jan monforton <jmonfort@vannet.k12.wa.us>
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from:         jan monforton <jmonfort@vannet.k12.wa.us>
subject:      re: a roches moment (vligc)
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yes, tiny toons, i love them. there's that one where hamlet tries to kill
the roches cuz they're in his house, but there's another one that they're
in where the roches are auditioning for a part in the show. everyone, go
watch tiny toons, it's so funny.
-sam (lover of cartoons, cuz we all know they're not really for kids)

on tue, 21 jul 1998, owl moontide wrote:

> whoops, sorry about that....i accidentally clicked on the little touchpad on
> my laptop, for those of you with 'em, you know what i mean. but i thought i
> was the onyl one who noticed that likttle skit thingy!!!!! cool! :) i think it
> was that "tiny toons" show....isn't that what it's called????

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 23:52:08 edt
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for those of you who don't know, shame on you!!!! (and the river said,.....)

jodie had her baby yesterday!!!!!!! (you know, jodie foster??) his name is
charles foster, and he was born monday, july 20th at 5:53am. he was born at
the cedars-sinai medical center in los angeles. he was 7 1/2lbs., 20 1/2
inches long. they arrived home tuesday, july 21st. the birth was at least a
month earlier than anyone thought, but little charlie is healthy as can be,
and his mommy is very happy!!!!! i wish i had a picture!!!!!!!!

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peace,
*erica*, who's off to rejoice and call everyone she knows because she knew it
first!!!! ha ha!!!!

"you need to let people know that they are free and can fly."
-jodie foster,  the world's most talented and awesome mommy!!!
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome/
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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 23:53:26 edt
reply-to:     weenracer@aol.com
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from:         lisa savu <weenracer@aol.com>
subject:      indigohioans! (bogart's show)
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hey everybody!

     okay, who all is going to the cincinnati show, and are we going to do a
little list meet beforehand?...  i plan on being in the short vine area, (by
bogart's), early that day, so i can watch to see if a line starts forming, and
jump into it if it does. but i was thinking maybe we could just all meet up
outside the doors to the club...  and all try to get places up front :)
who's interested?

~lisa (ween)

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