lifeblood: listlogs: 1998-07d


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date:         wed, 22 jul 1998 00:18:06 -0400
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hi y'all!

i just wanted to say (afterreading lisa's post) that i too have an aol
account.  i don't use it for mail, so don't e-mail me there, but i am
logged on a lot.  my screen name is indigodar.  so if you're ever on, and
i am on, im me.  we can chat!  :-)

love,
karen :-)

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"and maybe you can keep me from never being happy,
but you're not gonna stop me from having fun!"
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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 21:18:45 pdt
reply-to:     jill again <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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from:         jill again <jillyc@hotmail.com>
subject:      re: amy, the s/m queen???
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>no honey, self-mutilation...

okay, dahlink...  but even still, she's not talking about
self-mutilation.  ya can't burn your soul and cut your heart for real.
it's metaphorical.  it's, it's, oh, what's that word???  somebody help
me here, it's a poetic device wherein the poet goes to an extreme to get
the point across...

anyways, she ain't hurting herself.

jill

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date:         wed, 22 jul 1998 00:20:04 edt
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greetings, all-

i agree with jill, that amy's blood and fire is metaphorical.  in fact, i
think the matches and knives are metaphors, also, possibly for her past loves.
and any self mutilation is emotional and not physical. . .


peace-
summer

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date:         wed, 22 jul 1998 00:16:40 -0400
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i dont' have aol but i use im as well...i'm tiggrrl77 (that's a lowercase
"l" not a one)
-kim :)

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date:         wed, 22 jul 1998 00:30:51 edt
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hey gang :)
pulled this of of the pollstar site...
the addition of ann wilson is news to me :)
the thought of it gets me all excited... this is gonna be good !!!!!
baracuuuuuda !
:)
claire
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the real girlie show
the indigo girls are taking the estrogen-driven lilith fair concept to
the next level. the duo has put together a short club tour featuring
female artists only. the suffragette sessions tour is loosely modelled
on bob dylan's rolling thunder review of the '70s. the participating
artists will sit in on each other's sets and there will be no one
headlining act.
in addition to indigos amy ray and emily saliers, the suffragette lineup
comprises jane siberry, ann wilson of heart, violinist lisa germano,
kate schellenbach of luscious jackson, josephine wiggs of the breeders,
lourdes perez, thalia zedek of come, jean smith of mecca normal and gail
ann dorsey.
the eclectic collective debuts at the state theatre in portland, maine,
august 19th.
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date:         wed, 22 jul 1998 00:38:09 edt
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in a message dated 98-07-21 20:32:31 edt, you write:

<< if my memory does not fail me (could check the lifeblood archives, i
guess),
i think emily worked in a grocery store and amy worked in a pizza place - >>

i too read an interview w/ar where she said she briefly worked at pzza hutt
or something like that...she also said she worked in a record pressing
plant.....and...just to add to the mix..she said es worked for a travel agent
for a while.
one things for sure...
they both really worked hard at their music career :)

ta !
claire

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 21:42:51 pdt
reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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whoa whoa whoa! i thought we were saying sm as in self mutilation! not
s&m!!!!! like the sadomaschism..!!

lamia


"and greg he writes letters and burns his cds
they say you were something in those formative years
hold onto nothing as fast as you can.."
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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 22:06:22 pdt
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i'm ladylamia1  on im..!

*hugs*

lamia
"and greg he writes letters and burns his cds
they say you were something in those formative years
hold onto nothing as fast as you can.."
--tori amos, pretty good year

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date:         wed, 22 jul 1998 13:15:30 +0800
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jill wrote:

>okay, dahlink...  but even still, she's not talking about
>self-mutilation.  ya can't burn your soul and cut your heart for real.
>anyways, she ain't hurting herself.

this is about depression. amy's depression. i am a little anti discussing
this song because it causes amy pain - so much so - she doesn't sing this
song anymore.

yes she is hurting herself, emotionally and physically. maybe not
conciously....

i have spent nights with razors and scissors, i've lent over
bridges...above freeways. all because of depression. depression can lead to
forms of self-mutilation (i don't like this word - there has to be a better
word) sometimes depressed people inflict upon themselves an external pain
to disguise the emotional one. this infliction does not have to be done
with an instrument always. like worrying about something so much you make
yourself sick.

jodi

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date:         wed, 22 jul 1998 01:20:52 edt
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jodi -

i know exactly what you mean...you made my point very well. i could not say
exactly what was on my mind, but you did it for me. and there is a better word
for it, if it's what you'd call better...it's another word or two: self-
injury, self-harm, self-abuse, etc.

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peace,
*erica*

"maybe move to the right, maybe move to the left,
so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
-indigo girls,
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands"
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in a message dated 98-07-22 01:56:13 edt, jillyc@hotmail.com writes:

<< okay, dahlink...  but even still, she's not talking about
self-mutilation.  ya can't burn your soul and cut your heart for real.
it's metaphorical.  it's, it's, oh, what's that word???  somebody help
me here, it's a poetic device wherein the poet goes to an extreme to get
the point across...

anyways, she ain't hurting herself. >>

hyperbole??? is that the word???  sorry, years of grammar and writing
techniques drilled into my skull haven't leaked out through my ear yet....

i know the part about "cutting my heart, burning my soul" is metaphorical, but
it's...what she is trying to do by this action of sming......if that makes any
sense...jodi, you wanna help me out here(again)?? you don't hafta, just
thought i'd ask...

at the risk of getting a blowtorch in the face......

how do you know she isn't/wasn't hurtig herself??? every single person i know
would never even _speculate_ that i cut myself. most people like me are
*quite* good at hiding it....i think she was probably doing it in the past,
anyway....and if she isn't now, she's certainly very good at resisting
addictions......

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peace,
*erica*, who's hiding under her desk as she prepares to recieve replies.....

"maybe move to the right, maybe move to the left,
so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
-indigo girls,
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome/
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date:         wed, 22 jul 1998 00:07:09 -0600
reply-to:     kim n' heather <smaug@telusplanet.net>
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ummmm... i always thought that blood + fire was a the metephor used to
describe a very deep commitment made between two people. you know... knives
+ matches... with a knife you get blood, and with matches you get fire.
when you are in truely love with someone and are somehow unable to be with
her/him, the longing to reach her/him is painful and powerful... almost too
much to bear. i've had it in the back of my mind that the pain/ecstasy of
this sort of love, was what amy was adressing here.
uh... let me explain what i mean by the "commitment" thing:
when i was a young teen i read a lot about north american native life
religion + lore etc. and somewhere in all that information, awash in the
sheer intensity of my youth, i picked up on the "romantic" notion that the
way to pledge absolute love and devotion to another was in a "blood
brothers" ( sisters in my case ) ceremony. this was done by the use of fire
+ a knife.
i well remember myself and my best friend, both fifteen years old. it was
summer and we had stolen out of the house to build a "ceremonial" fire in
the dark woods behind my family home. we heated my hunting knife in the fire
and then we each cut our own fore arms. once we'd done this, we tied our
arms together, allowing our blood to "flow as one"... in our minds this
bound us together spiritually forever.
it was a powerful ( stupid in these days + times... but that was 20 years
ago now ) experience and i think that just such a thing would be a perfect
metaphor to describe the feeling of intense pain and longing at being "tied"
to anothers soul by your love for her/him...
anyhoo... just me tripping around + having fun explaining to amy exactly
what she meant when she wrote this song... lol!!! sigh
peace all... kim ( goddess in her own reality ) *finally* back from a week
long trip to the west coast coast to battle it out with my ex. i now have
custody of my two youngest children, woo hoo!!!... i had the pleasure of
doing dishes with my 12 year old daughter this am whilst both of us sang
along to nis... twas a treat:-)
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date:         wed, 22 jul 1998 02:38:21 edt
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hey emily--

<a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~underdog3/lifeblood/lyrics/bandf.html">
lifeblood: lyrics -- "blood & fire"</a>
ok.  to begin my argument. <ahem>  only the first 2 stanzas contain any
reference to matches and knives, cuts and burns.

"i have spent nights with matches and knives" (which i believe refer to
certain types of people.  "she's quite a firecracker", or "she's a
heartbreaker.") it's that same kind of allusion.
"leaning over ledges only two flights up"  it's not that dangerous, the
speaker/goddess says, only two flights, but it's self-harming, not good for me
to associate with these kind of people(the matches, knives, firecrackers, and
heartbreakers)
and then in the second stanza she is speaking to someone.  "you have spent
nights thinking of me. . .leaving my cuts, leaving my burns"  cuts and burns
are like scars, emotional luggage that everyone brings into every relationship
in some form.

does this make any sense? convince me otherwise!

by the way, i mailed your tape out this afternoon.

peace-
summer

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date:         tue, 21 jul 1998 23:56:39 pdt
reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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>>i think she was probably doing it in the past,
anyway....and if she isn't now, she's certainly very good at resisting
addictions......

i think another point is that amy was/is quite an impulsive, firey,
do-it-and-then-think type of person. so it's very possible that she may
have done something along the lines of what she wrote about, although
she was brave to write about it. considering i didn't even know other
people actually did it till several years after i did. now you can pick
up teen or one of those magazines and see an article about that, it
wasn't like that even 2 or 3 years ago!
my friend erin (the one with the same initials as emily) used to say it
was a way to take all the emotions she had, that were too overwhelming,
and release them in a way she understood. emotional pain was difficult,
but the physical pain she understood, it made the pain more real in a
way. i think that the song coincides with that.
letting out emotional pain in a physical way.
i think a majority of the people who are reacting badly do the thought
that amy might do that, are people who are looking at this the whole
wrong way. more than likely you(ya'll) have never done this, or gone
through it so it's hard to make you understand it.

especially since a majority of people believe that sm comes from mental
illness, which in many cases is false. people may also feel that this is
something that really doesn't go on in mainstream society, which is
wrong again because i live in a town that has only *2* high schools. and
4 of my friends did it, and me. so the odds that many, many other people
elsewhere do it are very great. it's not at all saying anything bad/or
trying to imply something about amy.

*hugs*

lamia
"and greg he writes letters and burns his cds
they say you were something in those formative years
hold onto nothing as fast as you can.."
--tori amos, pretty good year

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date:         wed, 22 jul 1998 04:45:18 -0400
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hi y'all!

i am back from bar hopping with my housemates and some friends.  anyway,
it was really fun.  but there was this jukebox and of course i immediatly
checked for ig songs (none), but they did have the redemption song by bob
marley.  as soon as i saw it i had to play it becausethe girls cover it.
so we played "redemption song".  everyone thought that i was weird b/c i
was like "i love this song!  the girls, my goddesses, cover it!"  anyway,
i almost had a bar brawl with this dude b/c i said that i like amy's voice
better (period) and that i like her version better.  he begged to
differ... but anyway, it was a cool evening.  but i wish the jukebox had
some ig song.  damn!  i probably would have spent all of my money to hear
all of the ig songs (it was one of those newer jukeboxes that plays cd's,
so i would have spent all my money to play the whole cd...)

alos one note on mmy tattoo (nigc).  i got a few flames about how "trendy"
it is to get japanese characters as tattoos.  well, i have to say, i am a
japanese major!  i speak the language and actually know what the
characters mean and how to pronounce and write them!  so my tattoo is very
special to me for a bunch of reasons, but one big one being that i love
japanese and it is very cool for me to have a character tattoo...  just a
note for those people who felt the need to flame me...

good night (oyasumi)

love,
karen :-)

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"i know i'm small in a way, but i know i'm strong!"
        --emily saliers aka goddess (indigo girls)
"your actions will follow you full circle round."
        --amy ray aka goddess (indigo girls)
"and maybe you can keep me from never being happy,
but you're not gonna stop me from having fun!"
        --ani difranco
"i felt like kerokeroppi on crack."  -- me :-)
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date:         wed, 22 jul 1998 18:24:33 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

sonicnet (http://www.sonicnet.com) has a birthday feature
up for emily, whose birthday it is... today!

whoohoo!

:)
sherlyn

ps - article follows...
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sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au            [sydney, australia]
"looking back, seeing far - landing right where we are..."
                                        - dar williams

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indigo girls' emily saliers

frank tortorici:

today is the 35th birthday of singer/songwriter/guitarist emily
saliers, who, along with her friend amy ray, compose the indigo
girls, one of the most popular folk-rock acts of the '90s.

saliers is the softer, folkier member of the duo, while ray
leans toward chrissie hynde-like aggression. the two have
performed together since the early '80s, when they began as the
b-band. they chose the name indigo girls in atlanta in 1985. in
1986, the pair recorded an independent, eponymous ep and
followed it the next year with their debut lp, strange fire.

as suzanne vega and tracy chapman exploded into the mainstream
near the end of the '80s, female folk-rock became hot again and
the indigos were ready. epic records released the indigo girls'
self-titled lp in 1989, featuring guest vocals by r.e.m.'s
michael stipe on "kid fears." the indigos became a college-crowd
hit with the single "closer to fine," and they won a grammy
award that year for best folk recording.

the duo's next album, nomads indians saints (1990), wasn't as
popular as its major-label debut . but 1992's rites of passage,
which added marimbas and fiddles to the group's sound, went
platinum. the indigos' next album, swamp ophelia (1994), was
even more popular and demonstrated the duo's loyal and growing
fanbase by debuting in the top 10.

after the live 1200 curfews, shaming of the sun followed in 1997.
by this time, the indigo girls were a major part of rock music's
folk revival, as demonstrated by the major success of performers
such as sarah mclachlan, the organizer of the extremely
successful, female-fronted lilith fair tour, which debuted in
1997. the indigo girls played numerous dates during the first
lilith and returned for this year's edition of the tour.

the indigo girls had always been activists, standing up for gay
rights, native american rights and other causes close to their
hearts. in 1995 and 1997, the indigos spearheaded the "honor the
earth" tour, a series of benefit shows that raised hundreds of
thousands of dollars for native american grass-roots
organizations. but ray and saliers' politics came to the
forefront this year when a number of shows they scheduled at high
schools and colleges were canceled by academic officials who
objected to the indigo girls' "foul" language on their "shame on
you" (realaudio excerpt) track and to their lesbianism. after
students protested the cancellations, 13 teens from schools in
south carolina and tennessee were suspended.

"it is a blatant case of homophobia," saliers said of one of the
cancellations. "the show was canceled because we are gay."

in response to the protests, the indigo girls rescheduled a free
concert for students in columbia, s.c., where the first
cancellation occurred.

regarding their next album, the two plan on songs that are more
political than their earlier efforts but are undecided about the
musical direction. saliers said: "i want to play electric guitar
more than ever. i want to rock out."

ray countered: "i'm looking at something really stripped-down,
but if emily wants to rock out, she can. and if i want to do
folk, she'll be there for me. we're very lucky to have that with
each other. and it works, too."

the indigos just announced that they are planning an
all-female, two-week tour of 12 cities, dubbed the "suffragette
session tour." the club tour will include lisa germano, jane
siberry, gail ann dorsey, luscious jackson's kate schellenbach
and others.

other birthdays: george clinton, 58; estelle bennett (ronettes),
54; richard davies (supertramp), 54; don henley, 51; keith sweat,
37; and pat badger (extreme), 31.

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on the abc show (last year) "the view" - they were interviewed briefly
(talked about lf and sots) and were asked about 'shame on you.' amy said the
first part of the lyrics came from friends who have a window-washing
business and were at her house one day, washing her windows, and that's
where that bit came about in the song.

n.

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hey y'all,

okay, i've said yes to about 75 people, so in the interest of my sanity, i
have to close the offer now.  there were a couple of people (jill c,  resa)
who said they would be willing to dub copies of theirs.  so if you want the
tape and you haven't heard from me, maybe you can make an appeal to one of
them.  after this batch is finished, i'll try to offer it up again in the
fall.  maybe by that time, i'll have the new version of problem to add to it!

peace,

pam

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i have a feeling that this question has been posted already, but is the
28.99 amazon.com price for 4.5 a decent price????

also, whats the difference between the 4 1/2 for 20.99 released in 95
and the 4.5 in 98 for 28.99???

if they are the same recordings....which would be better to get??


thanks ...

-kim

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in a message dated 98-07-22 02:30:29 edt, saliers_ray@hotmail.com writes:

<< whoa whoa whoa! i thought we were saying sm as in self mutilation! not
s&m!!!!! like the sadomaschism..!! >>

we are, don't get confused. ;o)

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peace,
*erica*

"maybe move to the right, maybe move to the left,
so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
-indigo girls,
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just wanted to say goodbye to the list. unfortunately, at this time i
simply don't have time to wade through the list e-mail. between working
full time, pursuing my mcse, being in a committed relationship and
playing bass in 2 bands my life has become somewhat chaotic and over
committed. i have found that i mostly delete the list mail, and so it is
time to sign off for awhile.

i have been subscribed to the list for about 3 years and have mostly
enjoyed being a part of it. i have had the great pleasure of meeting
some of y'all in person. i think fans of indigo girls are a unique and
special group of people. though we are quite a diverse group and
sometimes bicker (as family members will), over all we have found a
common ground to share. for me, there is a certain positive spirituality
that is a part of and surrounds the music of indigo girls. being a part
of this list and of the audiences at concerts has given me a since of
unity in this spirituality that i desperately needed.

i just wanted to thank you all for sharing your thoughts and ideas with
me and for putting up with me when i have climbed up on my soap box.

peace and love,

dan perkins
austin, texas

"hey kind friend, help me remember who i am"
                -amy ray

"the apathy of time laughs in my face, you say "each life has its place"
                -emily saliers

"emancipate yourself from mental slavery, non but ourselves can free our
minds"
                -bob marley

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i also know that like with anything, there are varying degrees of severity with this.  it can go from using erasers to carve/burn initials into your hand (many high school kids do this) to things like razors, knives, matches, perhaps jumping down stairs, only 2 flights...

i didn't even know other> people actually did it till several years after i did. now you can pick
> up teen or one of those magazines and see an article about that, it
> wasn't like that even 2 or 3 years ago!

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this song and "matches and knifes" and "cutting and burning" could just be scatalogical images, but i think it's probably more real than metphorical.  just the fact that amy says the song isn't true for her anymore and she refuses to sing it makes me think that way.  my .02
toye


> hyperbole??? is that the word???  sorry, years of grammar and writing
> techniques drilled into my skull haven't leaked out through my ear yet....
>
> i know the part about "cutting my heart, burning my soul" is metaphorical,

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hey!

this little slow poke was wonderin' if anyone could send me the setlists
from the columbus lilith (july 5) and boalsburg (july 10) shows... so i
can *finally* write my reviews...  thanks!! :)

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -amy ray

-my life is more than a vision -emily saliers

-i am a problem child/ i've been wild all my days/ all my anger and my
rage/ my senses said it would lead me astray/ i said go, go, go -a.r.

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> hi y'all!
>
> i am back from bar hopping with my housemates and some friends.  anyway,
> it was really fun.  but there was this jukebox and of course i immediatly
> checked for ig songs (none), but they did have the redemption song by bob
> marley.  as soon as i saw it i had to play it becausethe girls cover it.

heh-heh!  i'm guilty of doing this, too.  actually, my partner is.  she
played two of these "ig cover's 'em" songs for me as a surprise :)  last
week she played redemption song at a bar.  and the week before that, she
played "romeo & juliet" sung by mark knopfler (sp?), the dire straits
guy...  i had never heard it before, so i was very excited to finally get
to hear it.  it's *very* different.  and, in comparison, all i can say is
amy *sure* is passionate in that song (as if we all didn't already know
that...)!

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand-a.r.

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i have been thinking about these recent posts about self-mutilation,and
how it fits/doesn't fit in to blood and fire, and grown increasingly
uncomfortable as the morning has worn on.  given that none (or very,
very few of us) are privy to the private details of amy's life (past or
present) i don't know that it's appropriate for any of us to speculate
as to the intentions behind the song, or how autobiographical it might
be.

as someone who has spent more time than i care to (but can't help
but)remember hurting my body, i know that i would be very uncomfortable
if i found out that other people were talking about my throwing up or
the hair i've pulled out...and while i know that a large part of that is
the secrecy that i'd love to be able to keep about what i've done to my
body (as if that could suddenly lift it from me) i also know that a lot
more of it is about wanting to move on, to live beyond that and to find
a new way of definining myself.  and yes, there will be times where i
choose to acknowledge, in conversation or in my writing, what i've done
or not done, but that is my decision, not someone else's.  if nothing
else, i think that amy's decision to not perform this song anymore is an
indication that this (whatever "this" even is) is something that she
would not be comfortable having the 800 or so of us discuss.

what amy has or hasn't done is her business.  what she does and shares
publicly, through her music or her activism, is a gift to all of us.
and if some of us find something more than that, some message or
connection in her music to some pain in our present or past, that's a
gift, too.  a very powerful one.  and i am glad that some of you out
there are reaching out and realizing that you are not alone in hurting
yourselves, or that your friends or relations who do this are not alone.
that's a connection, too, one that can potentially be life-saving.  but
please, let's leave the guessing about amy's personal life out of this.

peace,
shelley

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just thought i'd share this with everybody...

i was on my way driving home from a long night in buffalo. it was the very
early in the morning and i was listening to the radio (which is somewhat
unusual for me) when all the sudden the dj on the radio station said "today is
emily salier's 35th birthday!"  i was blown away because not a lot of radio
stations play indigo girls music...let alone care when their birthdays are.
anyways, i just thought that was cool.  so, happy birthday emily!

amy

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hi y'all.  i'm nic the newbie!  :)  i was reading the list last night, trying
desperately to understand but ... i'm still confused!  :)  alrighty, have a
good one!
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on wed, 22 jul 1998, 42nat1 wrote:

> heh-heh!  i'm guilty of doing this, too.  actually, my partner is.  she
> played two of these "ig cover's 'em" songs for me as a surprise :)  last
> week she played redemption song at a bar.  and the week before that, she
> played "romeo & juliet" sung by mark knopfler (sp?), the dire straits
> guy...  i had never heard it before, so i was very excited to finally get
> to hear it.  it's *very* different.  and, in comparison, all i can say is
> amy *sure* is passionate in that song (as if we all didn't already know
> that...)!

   yep...but let's not go dumping on mark knopfler -- to put things into
perspective, emily would be hard-pressed to play that guitar solo...  ;)
   what does everybody think of the ig cover of the allmans' melissa?  was
anybody else disappointed?

   darius

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i have always seen a context of self-mutilation, not necessarily on a
personal level for amy but on a general level for women.  self mutilation
(i.e., cutting and burning one's self, primarily) is more common among
women than anorexia and bulemia combined--and keep in mind that one in
three women will have eating concerns in their lifetimes.  in terms of the
population of women, many have spent time with blades and fire  dealing
with the pain and self-hate that they don't know how to deal with in a less
destructive manner.  the percentage of women who mutilate themselves is
even higher if they were victims of some form of sexual abuse either as
children or adults.  this is to say, our society seems to foster the need
to physically hurt one's self (and i say hurt--few cases of mutilation are
suicide attempts).  certainly, this song is metaphorical, but it also seems
to express the plight of a person in love--a woman in love--who is
profoundly pained and doesn't know any other way to express it.

d

it's so hard to be some one in the company of none.
                -mm

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i havent even seen this yet and i have photos in it! :)  but,
i jsut talked to the editor, lydia.  if you cant find
it, you can order directly from the magazine either
at the web page at www.performingsongwriter.com
or by calling 1-800-883-7664. it literally just came out
so those who have checked stores which had older copies,
check again later.  those stores have probably just not
yet received their copies.

there will also be copies at the falcon ridge and newport folk
festivals.

                          _________
amy p.                    \       /     who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
the original photo monk      \ /                --patty larkin
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hkf's,

just a little of my .02 about "obsessed when..."

since it was just mentioned i was lol (in my head of course) - because i was
typing in item number "rj 255 cf" - and of course i immediately thought
romeo & juliet 255 times closer (to) fine... (what does that equal anyway?
maybe ig?)

and in my indigomoment yesterday - i was driving home from work around
6:00pm and blister came on!!!  so i cranked it like it was 1999 and smiled
in my head knowing of my new, unique appreciation of the song!  of course i
had the better (blue) version at home in my cd player, so i would just have
to wait... <g>

danke
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hey, y'all...

yesterday's amarillo daily news featured a story on lilith fair done by one
of our reporters...it talked about how fun lilith is, but how little time
each act gets.

the little "teaser" on the front page said thus:

'thanks, y'all'
acts who play lilith
fair, which will be
in dallas next month,
come and go away
too quickly

i thought it was cool that they represented the story with our favorite quote.

anyway, i put the picture included in the story up for all to see.  find it at:

http://amarillonet.com/ads/girls.jpg

have fun!

j u s t i n

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in a message dated 98-07-22 13:30:44 edt, strange_fire66@hotmail.com wrote:

<< and if some of us find something more than that, some message or
connection in her music to some pain in our present or past, that's a
gift, too.  a very powerful one.  and i am glad that some of you out
there are reaching out and realizing that you are not alone in hurting
yourselves, or that your friends or relations who do this are not alone.
that's a connection, too, one that can potentially be life-saving.  but
please, let's leave the guessing about amy's personal life out of this.
  >>

this is one of the most moving posts i've ever read on this or any other list,
and might just be the redemption of the whole thread......  thanks for
sharing....

tim

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in a message dated 98-07-22 11:21:36 edt, kporcaro@vt.edu writes:

<<
i have a feeling that this question has been posted already, but is the
28.99 amazon.com price for 4.5 a decent price????

also, whats the difference between the 4 1/2 for 20.99 released in 95
and the 4.5 in 98 for 28.99???

if they are the same recordings....which would be better to get??
  >>


i can't tell you if there is any difference between 4 1/2  and 4.5, but i can
say i paid $15.00 for my copy 4.5 just two months ago.    i got mine at tower
records.

lynn   :-)    <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
tahmehawk's place</a>

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i love ig and have for 10 years.a relativly new spark has been catie
curtis. anyone know of a list for her? i really love her song hotel room
in memphis..talking about a soul mate long separated. good musician.
let me know if anyone has info. and you might check her out..really
great voice and lyrics...sparkie

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someone said:
>yep...but let's not go dumping on mark knopfler -- to put things into
perspective, emily would be hard-pressed to play that guitar solo...  ;)
~~heh heh. :( you're probably right. :) i don't think melissa was
dumpin' on mark though...just pointing out the passion in amy's
version...who can disagree?! yikes! :) :) :)

>what does everybody think of the ig cover of the allmans' melissa?
~~awww, man...i *love* this version...i think they did a wonderful job
on this one...no disappointment here. :)  there's something about amy's
voice near the end....she's just singing..."oh," or "aww," or
*something* like that...just notes...no real words...and it's for a very
short time...but, god! it's just *so* beautiful...the way her singing
fits in with the chord progressions, etc...absolutely amazing. :)  think
i need to hear it. now. :)
now i'm all gung ho on cover talk. :) ...how 'bout amy's version of
"duncan" by paul simon???  this song is included along with "problem
child" at the end of the red light cafe boot (amy, emily, cooper, and
michelle)...taken from a performance at rainy day records...there's just
something about this song that really moves me...it's incredibly simple,
but it tells volumes...very short and to the point... aaack..i'm  just
gonna post the lyrics...sheeit...sorry if you're not interested....but
man..to hear her sing this song...it sounds so much like something she
would write, so it's very easy to forget that it's not her own...she
sings it like it sure as hell is. ;)  this is one of those that makes me
cry even though it's not sad.  i bawl every time i listen to
it...ugggggh.

duncan:
the couple in the next room
bound to win a prize
they've been goin' at it all night long
well, i'm trying to get some sleep
but these motel walls are cheap
lincoln duncan is my name and here's my song
here's my song

my father was a fisherman
my mom a fisherman's friend
and i was born in the boredom
and the chowder
when i reached my prime
i left my home in the maritimes
and i headed down the turnpike for new england
sweet new england

with holes in my confidence
and holes in the knees of my jeans
and i was left without a penny in my pocket
ooh ooh wee, i was destitute as a girl could be
i wished i wore a ring so i could hock it...
i'd surely hock it

i met a young girl in the parkin' lot
she was preachin' to the crowd
a singin' sacred songs
and readin' from the bible
well, i told her i was lost
and she told me all about the pentecost
i seen that girl as a road to my survival

later on that very same night
she crept to my tent with a flashlight
and these long years of innocence ended
she took me to the woods,
sajid "here comes some, and it feels so good."
and just like a dog i was befriended
i was befriended

<whistlin'> :)

i said "what a night, what a garden of delight,"
and even now that sweet memory lingers
i was lyin' under the stars
just playin' my guitar
well i was thankin' the lord for my fingers
for my fingers

<whistlin'> :)

i'm obsessed with this song. ;) it's so great.  anyone have the guitar
tab/chords to this one? i'd be forever happy. :)

take care,
bethany :)

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im with bethany on this one--this song is amazing:) are there any tapes out
there in circulation where this appears besides on the red light/rainy day
boot?


erica

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hi! someone named emstar91 or something of that nature just messaged me
on im (i'm assuming they're from this list!) i got booted right then
before i could click the accept message button, so i lost the name! just
wanted to say sorry! i'm not being rude!

lamia

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i just got an email this morning saying that ani will be in eugene at the
hult center on october 19. anyone have more info on this per chance? thanks.
-sam (trudging back to the zoo)

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and there is a better word
> for it, if it's what you'd call better...it's another word or two: self-
> injury, self-harm, self-abuse,

um...that last term there doens't mean what you think it means, lol...it
has another connotation altogether. hee hee...email me privately if you
don't know what it means, and  be sure to include your age, ok? i don't
want to be corrupting any minors!
peace,
    sharoane

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hey y'all.  tickets for the august 22nd suffragette sessions show at agora
theatre in cleveland go on sale this friday 7/24 at 10:00am.  tickets are
$20 + tm bs.  the show starts at 8, doors open at 7.

also there is an article on the front page of the ultimate band list about
suffragette sessions.  nice pic of a&e!

http://ubl.com

take care
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hkfs,

so, what's the difference between being "half the naked distance between
hell and heaven's ceiling" and being half the clothed distance between
hell and heaven's ceiling? and would half the disrobed distance be the
same?

these are the kinds of things you think about when your brain isn't used
extensively for long periods of time. not that it's a bad thing, mind you.

ok, allow me to stop wasting bandwidth now.

happy emily day!

this distraction from everyone calling each other names and talking about
s/m brought to you by:
amy m.

please direct flames to the above address.

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"women together is a powerful thing. especially when you join it with
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"that i had emily's pen and amy's pants, oh, how much closer to fine i
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hi all,
     just thought that i would forward this on to the list and see if
anyone was interested in doing this.

smiles,
allison
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date:        7/22/98 9:28 pm
received:    7/22/98 5:43 pm
from:        tripod, contest@tripod.com
to:          alhastings@mindspring.com

hi allison,

we know you're a good web page builder, and we're hoping you love music
too.
you might be interested in winning one of twenty-five $200.00 cdnow gift
certificates. we'll be giving those away to tripod builders who:

1) use our new music store builder to build a cdnow / cosmic credit music
store on tripod; and
2) get a new cosmic credit customer (yourself, a friend, a family member
or anyone!)
to purchase at least one cd from your store.

tripod has made it incredibly easy and fun for you to build a music store.
even if you don't win one of the gift certificates, you can earn cash
(which
is like a huge discount!) through cdnow's cosmic credit program and your
store. so if you think about it, everyone who builds a music store is a
winner!

this contest is tripod's way of celebrating our best homepage builders and
testing-by-fire the initial run of our new music store builder. we'd love
to
get your ideas of how that store-making process can be made better.

go to http://www.tripod.com/promotions/pbg/ to enter!


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subject:      another im name nigc
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if anyone would like to chat with me on im, my user name is jamiearron.
that's all!  : )

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heya, everyone.  could someone explain to me what a celtic knot is, and
what it means???

liz

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hey folks,

i called ticketmonster and they said that tix for the 8/5 roxy show are
$16.00 (plus "handling" charges) and go on sale at 10:00 a.m. friday.  i
forgot to ask whether seats are reserved or general admission... :p

had i known the girls were going to schedule an atlanta show, i probably
wouldn't have ordered tickets for the suffragette sessions show in
cincinnati two days ago.  for anyone who hasn't yet ordered tickets for
the cincy show, no tickets will be mailed...all tickets must be picked
up at will call (which means you're s.o.l. if you decide not to go and
want to sell your ticket beforehand).

peace,

joan :-d

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hey.  i have aol im as well...i'm "indigo5479"

sharon

kim shaver wrote:

> i dont' have aol but i use im as well...i'm tiggrrl77 (that's a lowercase
> "l" not a one)
> -kim :)
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happy birthday emily!

welcome to the wonderful world of 35! 35 is not what it used to be! :)

wmntime - who is 35 and thinks it's cool that emily and i are the same age!

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i eagerly checked my email this morning to read other posters' words about
emily saliers, in honor of her 35th birthday.  instead, i'm reading about
self-mutilation.  the other day i had to wade through posts on vampires.

is this still the indigo girls list or has it turned into the marilyn manson
list when i wasn't looking?

wmntime - please don't flame me...i just needed to get this off my chest, and
no, i have no idea if marilyn manson is into self-mutilation or is a vampire
and i don't care either

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in an addendum to my last post, let me say that i have no problems with anyone
emailing in private, of course, i just think that perhaps that some things go
a little too far away from the music of indigo girls...

only my opinion

please don't flame

wmntime

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i love lincoln duncan! great song but amy just cannot whistle for
anything! *g*

lamia

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just a thought for those of you in this same situation.  i bought tickets
to a bunch of shows in california last winter and only ended up using the
san fransisco ones (bacteria zone!).  obviously i wanted to sell the ones
i couldn't use and did so for everything except the sacramento ticket
which got caught up in the mail and never showed up.  so i called and they
were only able to hold the ticket for me at the box office as will call.
so i explained my situation to the operator dude and was told that if i
wanted someone else to be able to pick up the tickets i just had to write
a letter explaining the situation and then send a photo copy of the credit
card with which i bought the ticket (he said i could cross out a couple
numbers for security as long as they could see the first group or the last
group) and then i sent that to the person who was picking up the ticket.
she brought a photo id and the letter and xerox and was able to pick up
the ticket with no trouble at all.  i'd call tm and make sure this is cool
for cincy or wherever, but it's certainly a possibility...

marivel

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in a message dated 98-07-22 20:12:39 edt, wmntime@aol.com writes:

<<
in an addendum to my last post, let me say that i have no problems with
anyone
emailing in private, of course, i just think that perhaps that some things go
a little too far away from the music of indigo girls...
  >>


i have to agree 100%

lynn  :-)    <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">tahmehawk's
place</a>

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howdy all,
        just my humble review...

> i love lincoln duncan! great song but amy just cannot whistle for
> anything! *g*

        after partaking of the ig merriweather show, i must say that...imho
amy's whistling has greatly improved...that was her on gone again,
wasn't it?

        'course i've never heard the lincoln duncan either, so i could be
wrong...anyone else out there enjoy the saturday merriweather show???
bar????

peace & love
jules

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someone wrote:

> im with bethany on this one--this song is amazing:) are there any tapes out
> there in circulation where this appears besides on the red light/rainy day
> boot?
>


no, but if i get my way, there will be after the cleveland show...  :)

are we organizing a list meet for the agora?  i am willing if no one
else wants to...

peace-
karrie, who is all prepped to buy buy buy on friday morning...

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---wmn time <wmntime@aol.com> wrote:
> i eagerly checked my email this morning to read other posters' words
about
> emily saliers, in honor of her 35th birthday.

    *ahem*  *singing!!!*

happy birthday to you!  happy birthday to you!!  happy birthday dear
emily!!!  happy birthday to youuuu!!!!

            *smiling*  i just sang emily saliers happy
birthday...*grin*  that's cool.

> is this still the indigo girls list or has it turned into the
marilyn manson
> list when i wasn't looking?

     ewwww....

> no, i have no idea if marilyn manson is into self-mutilation or is a
vampire
> and i don't care either

         *heehee*

i'm just laughing cuz the thought of *me* being on a marilyn manson
list...well - it's totally not me...and i'm just like 'marilyn
manson...whatever...'  heehee - really no offense to anyone...it's
just not my bag...

take care all -
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> someone said:
> >yep...but let's not go dumping on mark knopfler -- to put things into
> perspective, emily would be hard-pressed to play that guitar solo...  ;)

  then bethany said:
> ~~heh heh. :( you're probably right. :) i don't think melissa was
> dumpin' on mark though...just pointing out the passion in amy's
> version...who can disagree?! yikes! :) :) :)

        exactly.  yes, that's what i meant. thanks for clarifying that for
me, bethany. :)
>
> >what does everybody think of the ig cover of the allmans' melissa?
> ~~awww, man...i *love* this version...i think they did a wonderful job
> on this one...no disappointment here. :)
        yep!  i agree with that one, too!  it all just rocks. i love lines
like "freiiiiight trains..."  very nice.

> now i'm all gung ho on cover talk. :) ...how 'bout amy's version of
> "duncan" by paul simon???
        yeah, that song rocks, too! :)  it's got such a nice sound.
simple. i'm so specific and descriptive, i know.  all i can say is... yep,
i like it!

peace, melissa

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hey yall...

so...does anyone have this song??  (duncan?)  i've never heard it!!
*gasp!*  would love to listen to it!!
as far as ig covers go...i totally dig what they do...often times - i
like *their* cover better than the original...*it's true!*

and...so tonight is wednesday!!!  is tonight the 'lost ellen'
episode???  im gonna watch...just in case...someone has been posting
about this lately - and i can't remember exactly *who* it was...(bad
me!)...anyhoo...im off to check it out!

rock on.
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<< and...so tonight is wednesday!!!  is tonight the 'lost ellen'
episode???  im gonna watch...just in case...someone has been posting
about this lately - and i can't remember exactly *who* it was...(bad
me!)...anyhoo...im off to check it out! >>

holy shat, someone else still cares about ellen too! :) yes yes yes, tonight
is the lost ellen episode, and i hear theyre talking marriage! so everyone
gather round, its the last unseen episode of one of the most influencial
girlies in america..

take care all, please.

lovetara. :)

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ya know..exactly a month from today, tori amos turns 35!!!

interesting!!

lamia

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talking on the phone to a friend from delaware last night, he told me that ani
played at a local bar with whoever was playing there.  how bizarre is that!  i
wonder if she did what all my friends and i who aren't actually from delaware
(and watch out this offends delawarians), which is to go "we're in....
delaware.. yeah..."  it's times like this i wish i was at school.. it'd have
been nice to get to see ani for only a $5 cover free even if it means i have
to get giant "m"s on my hands... just wanted to share this with you ; )
--kate

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so - - - -

did anyone watch ellen???  *sigh*  i will miss her in the fall...

did anyone else get teary at the end of the show tonight???

...some ig content...i can always think of something!  *grin*  i got
some pretty good pix from the boalsburg concert...woo wooo...*and* the
pix from professional songwriter...that magazine...totally dig the pix
- and the interview is cool too...go get it.  it's at borders.  (at
least that's where i found it...)

rock on.

sunny


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there's still time to catch wendy bucklew and the band (dede vogt and jason
mogi) before this leg of the tour becomes a misty watercolor memory.  two
more dates remain:

thursday, july 23rd at nicholby's in ventura, ca, 10pm, (805) 653-2320
friday, july 24th at the mint in los angeles, ca, 8:30pm, (213) 954-9630

we are recording live at the mint, so come on down and put your hoots and
hollers on tape for us.  we do plan to party like it's 1999 at both shows,
and it simply won't be the same without you.

for all the wendy info you can eat, please visit her website at
http://www.flylive.com/flylive/wendy.html or http://songs.com/wendy

(and just for fun, the first person to e-mail me with the titles to the two
pop songs referenced in this note wins a signed wendy bucklew "asleep in the
swing" poster.)

cheers,

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hey everyone..:) i was just wondering about how long does it take when you are
ordering cd's and stuff from daemon records for it to actually get to your
house. i just ordered the jcs video...:) i'm so excited..:) and the danielle
howle live at the mckissick (sp?) cd! :) :) i'm hoping that it doesn't take
toooo long...but if anyone has ordered from them before...i'd really
appreciate it if you would email me just so i don't get my hopes up that it
comes next week...when really it will come it a couple! ya know?
ok...well...some igc....happy b-day emily! :)
peace & music,
jenn     buddy45687@aol.com :)

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it was  great show!

and yes it was sad!

this is the fisrt wednesday i have been home from work in what seems like
years!

so i am luck i got to see it!

babs

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hkf,

i sympathise with the people who don't want to hear about 'blood & fire',
and i sympathise with the painful connection of this song to so many people
on this list.

this particular thread has wandered, and seen a few people sharing a common
ground. a hard ground. we only have to look at the subject heading re: amy,
the s/m queen??? to see who this topic is particularly important too...i
think this thread can be of utmost emotional importance to some of these
people, and i encourage them to discuss it, with people who have already
posted about this topic, in private. this is how some great friendships can
start, by re-directing your comments to a particular person rather than the
entire list.

and although it doesn't look like it from looking at the recent postings,
but quite a number of us have already taken this topic to private email.

we can't wake up every morning and read posts that are always relevant to
us. there are too many people on this list who are located all over the
world, from many different cultural backgrounds.
some haven't even been lucky enough to have the indigo girls grace their
shores, yet they wade through all the the stuff they can only ever dream
about, and listen to the fortunate ones complaining.

time and time again, sherlyn posts the obvious points, and most of it is
written at the bottom of each and every post. does anyone listen to her??
does anyone realise that she too gets flamed - how totally unfair and rude.
as for the vampire issue, if you got sucked into that it's your own fault
it started from someone who couldn't even be bothered reading the faq.

if you want to flame me ok - flame me, don't burden a 1000 people.

jodi

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hi all-- this is vague & very nigc (sorry), but there was someone who posted a
month or so ago saying that he (i think it was a man) just wanted to have
everyone give jewel a fair shot & i think his (her?) sig file said somthing
about bringing or spreading jewel's message/music to the world. i am assuming
that this person is on the jewel list & i wanted to ask them a favor. if this
sounds like you-- can you email me?

thank you,
alexandra

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mmmmm....  the answer to both questions is "yes"....

tim

<< did anyone watch ellen???  *sigh*  i will miss her in the fall...

did anyone else get teary at the end of the show tonight???
  >>

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... you're at a party and rush over to meet someone because she's talking
about how much she loves the indigo girls ... only to be sorely dismayed when
she says, "yeah, i love that song they do, closer to fine!  do you know it?  i
hope they come out with another album someday."

aack, not a *real* fan at all!  a wasted trip across the room.  i am such a
snob.

heidi

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actually the sm thing was directly related to a discussion about a song
by amy blood and fire. can we really talk about the girls 24 hours a
day? they're just two people, and they only have so many cds/songs.
(fyi: i said a lot more but cut it all out *w* cuz i didn't want to
cause trouble)

anyhoo did anyone see ellen tonight? was this the lost episode or
whatever? i found it a bit unimpressive..i dunno..maybe even a bit
offensive..maybe ya'll would disagree..anyone else see it??

lamia
"and greg he writes letters and burns his cds
they say you were something in those formative years
hold onto nothing as fast as you can.."
--tori amos, pretty good year

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>amy's whistling has greatly improved...that was her on gone again,
wasn't it?
~~ooh! i've gotta agree with julie. :) the whistling in lincoln duncan,
although crappy, still tends to move me....i think it's because it
sounds so damned innocent. :)   heh heh...yeah, it's all off key, but
man....it's still great.  i was whistling along today, and i was
like..."damn..that's *one* thing i can do better 'n her. :)"  heh heh...
and yes! she has improved loads since..."gone again" has a great little
whistlin' section and she sure does it well. :)  whoo wee! :) that's my
new favorite tune. :)

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in a message dated 98-07-22 23:12:52 edt, saliers_ray@hotmail.com writes:

<<
actually the sm thing was directly related to a discussion about a song
by amy blood and fire. can we really talk about the girls 24 hours a
day? they're just two people, and they only have so many cds/songs. >>

i didn't mind talking about blood and fire as that is an extremely intense
song which i was certainly able to relate to at the end of my former
relationship--but i do not mean that in a sense of matches, knives, etc.
however, calling amy ray an sm queen is a little bit too much and it kind of
annoyed me.  i also really didn't want to hear so much about self-mutilation.
on the other hand, i know that a couple of weeks ago someone complained about
the whole butch/femme thing on the list and i have to say that i didn't mind
talking about that because i am lesbian.  and so are a&e.  so what is my point
here...good question.  it's late.  i think i said enough for today.

wmntime

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what happened on ellen?  i was too busy talking on the phone to my own
girlfriend to watch it.


wmntime

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i just asked a question about ellen but i should have said that someone can
mail me privately.  i know that this is not the ellen list.  actually, i could
just check the ellen board on aol.

remember when ellen had the girls on?

oh yeah, just for 39 seconds.

never mind :) ---- but it was better than nothing.

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well, i guess i wont tell you what i do for letting go of "trade
secrets", but i get to make up names & phone #'s etc @ work & today i
made up "emily melissa born."  today is emilys b-day & my friend's b-day
(melissa)...and so i used the last name born....
also, the phone # was 331-3518...35 being emily's age, and 19 being
meli's.  also, the street name was carol st. :)

um...has anyone been listening to music on headphones as the batteries
die?  wow, and i thought amy had a low voice normally.....
its scary, but interesting

carol im: chroma2424

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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 01:12:02 edt
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hey,
   did anyone else notice that the article in performing songwriter was almost
identical to the one in goldmine?? i mean the girls are saying all the same
things in both mags! i know this happens alot but i kind of thought it would
be two different interviews and i was disappointed, it was annoying.....but
the pics in both are really great so i recommend them just for that...

peace,
amy r.

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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 02:25:58 -0400
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i have to admit it, i am a bit of an ig snob also.  i always give the
"test" to anyone who claims to be an ig fan.  anyway, that is why i love
this list so much.  y'all are the only other real ig fans that i know
(except for one person who i am trying to get to join the list...)

good night (or good morning!)


love,
karen :-)

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hey all,
i heard lisa germano on a local station here in la (she rocks btw) and she mentioned the sessions tour.  she said that each performer was going to pick about 2 songs and that the other girls would join in and jam on them.  she also said that each concert would last about 1 and 1/2 to 2 hours....
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date:         wed, 22 jul 1998 23:52:11 pdt
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okay, so it's nearly 3 a..m. and thanks to java (who was nice enough to
direct me to the online chords), i've been up playing "duncan."
shnikeys! here i sit like some sort of deranged lunatic....guitar in
hand...glazed eyes.... in my living room...on the couch. that's where i
was planted for more than an hour...playing along with the
tape...totally losing amy...screaming...rewinding...starting
over...screwing up...starting over...etc...man! she kicks my butt.
update: i realized that i *can't* whistle better 'n amy...tried it with
guitar and realized i sounded just like her...began laughing
hysterically...couldn't even purse my lips enough to whistle
again...still can't...every time i hear myself i lose it. ;)
so, any other tab versions floating around anywhere?!  for those of you
who do have it...i'd really like another one if it's available.  for
those of you who give two s**ts, and have the chords...the a is not
sounding right...i think it's a mistake.  the a in the verses that is.
hmmph...i kinda played a g and then just took my little ol' index finger
(used when playing g), and moved it up one fret...(gave it that, "look
at me! i'm goin' down the scale!" feel...) , and just skipped the a.
went directly to d, and it seemed to work fine.  now...i need to know
how to strum it correctly..i can hear it, but i can't get my hand to do
it.  well, i can, but i can't sing at the same time....i keep singing
the rhythm over and over in my head to kind of etch it into my little
internal metronome, but it ain't workin'. frig.  i'm obsessed.  any
advice would be appreciated. :)
anyhoos, thanks for listening to a tangent about a song that half of you
don't know anyway.  you're my last hope. :) pity the po fooh (that's
*me*...) i'm ready to rip my head off. :)

take care,
bethany :)

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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 01:20:01 -0600
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ut-oh!!! the whole dingle fritzen day has gone hurry scurry by here + only
now ( at 1:12 am ) do i realize that i've missed the opportunity to post a
salute to emily on her b-day <sniff...arach-achem...snort....pout!>
ah well... here's to emily; my favorite poet/lyricist... these days her
"south land in the springtime" is a favorite of mine, just cause i'm newly
moved to alberta, and well... every time i drive the roads in this rural
farming area, i get a rush of emotion at the beauty surrounding me and the
words to that song insist on playing themselves over n' over in my head. (
which i must say is a nice break from the usual "meow meow meow meow, meow
meow meow" ) wish *i'd* written "south land in the springtime". wish i'd
written "left me a fool".... wish i'd written "ghost"... wish i'd written
"language or the kiss"... wish i'd written..... well... you get the picture.
anyhoooo... happy happy to emily on her b-day
lotsa love to alla you all too... kim ( goddess in her own reality ).
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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 04:06:42 edt
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  hey! i don't know if you all know this or not but, us people who have an aol
e-mail address have the same instant message name minus the @aol.com. so, mine
is kayetea. well, take care!
                                           -katy

ps: did i spell anything wrong leigh ann?

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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 09:50:31 +0100
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ok first of all if you're bored of the self-harm stuff please ignore this
message. and i apologise. i spent two days trying to decide whether to
post but i can't see this subject going past without saying something.

once again sharon is abut three days behind (i'm on digest now)...
i'm so happy we're talking about this song. i never thought of it as being
about self-harm. i don't really want to know if amy was/is into self-harm,
that's not the point. she wrote a song that is universal enough that if
you *are* then you can get something from it, and if you're *not* then you
can still identify with it. metaphor. it's good.
and here, it's made people talk about stuff which they (i) generally don't
bring up. and yet for me things got so much easier when i started talking
about it because it was no longer a way of hiding bad feelings - i
couldn't keep it a secret. so i had to learn to cope some other way.
i remember listening to blood and fire one day when i wanted to go throw
up and i had the sound turned right up and i was yelling the words back at
the speakers.

sharon

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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 07:10:58 -0400
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and you were not melissa or
katherine  write me back please this was for th e new ks choice cd

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as much as i'd like to see the suffragette show at roseland, i'm going to have
to pass because my new girlfriend has a knee problem that impedes her from
standing up for long periods of time.   so although i like being near the
stage, it's more important for me to sit with my girlfriend in comfortable
seats.

i know that igs prefer small venues but i hope that the next time they play in
ny or nj, there will be places for us to sit --- and i don't mean like at
fleadh where you couldn't see them at all unless you were close to the
stage....not to mention the incredibly long walk from the parking lot to the
entrance which was definitely not conducive to a disabled person.

hopefully they'll play madison square garden when their new album comes out.

wmntime

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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 21:57:13 +1000
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australian listees,

i have offered to tree this tape for any aussie fans out there who are
interested in a copy.  i'm not sure how many requests i'll get or how
many i can handle at this stage, so depending on the number of requests
i many need someone else to help - but i'll let you know if that becomes
the case.

if you are interested email me privately and we'll get this on the way.

the track list that pam posted is below for a reminder
peace, love and rock'n'roll
joanna
>
> problem child (old version)
> no way to treat a friend
> reunion (acoustic)
> cut it out/wish you were here
>    universal amphitheater 1/30/98
> chickenman  w/soc
>    london, nov 1994
> gone again
>    sydney, australia  2/27/98
> ballad of squeaky fromme  1987
> dead man's hill (studio acoustic)
> shed your skin (tom morello remix)
> forgiveness
>    orlando, fl 11/29/97
> cortez the killer (studio acoustic)
> blister in the sun
>     la jolla, ca 2/1/98
> pushing the needle too far
>     from stanley, son of theodore
> chiapas bound
>     hofstra  3/16/97
> touch me fall
> heartache central time
> fugitive
>     london, nov 1994
> poor jerusalem from jcs
> three hits
> faye tucker/scooter boys (cut)
>     starkville, miss.  4/19/98
> nueva senorita
>      melbourne, australia  2/22/98

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i'm jenster999 on instant messenger and aol!  i'm not on too often,
because i don't have a computer, but when i am...anyone please feel free
to im me because i love meeting new people.  take care everyone!
-jen

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i'm karensoi...have to remember to turn it on now!

peace,  karen


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subject:      re: romeo & juliet, melissa, and duncan.   the lovely covers :)
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on wed, 22 jul 1998, bethany p wrote:

> ~~awww, man...i *love* this version...i think they did a wonderful job
> on this one...no disappointment here. :)  there's something about amy's
> voice near the end....she's just singing..."oh," or "aww," or
> *something* like that...just notes...no real words...and it's for a very
> short time...but, god! it's just *so* beautiful...the way her singing
> fits in with the chord progressions, etc...absolutely amazing. :)  think
> i need to hear it. now. :)

   how familiar are you with the original allmans' version?  to me, the
song always conveyed a sort of breathlessness (you put your weed in there,
man!) and desperation -- i look at it as the difference between the
original version of layla (by derek and the dominoes-era clapton) and the
unplugged (by old clapton) -- sure, the second is very good, and pretty
damn cool, but how can you compare to the desperation and longing in the
original?
   i've listened to a lot of hippie-wannabe bands play that -- and i think
the trick is in the very first bit, after the guitar part starts.
"crossroads..."  get that right, and you've got the whole song.  if you
look at the original, duane (i think - always get the allmans confused...)
almost sighs it, and his voice really shakes.  whereas the amy version is
delivered very clearly.  slow, perhaps, but crystal clear, especially for
amy.
   perhaps my expectations are a bit high -- there are certain musicians
(ig, paul simon, dream theater, billy joel) i hold to higher standards
than everybody else, and doubly so in this case because they're covering
one of the most beautiful rock songs of all time.  but if "melissa" and
"midnight train to georgia" are the only covers where i like the original
better, it says a lot...  ;)

> now i'm all gung ho on cover talk. :) ...how 'bout amy's version of
> "duncan" by paul simon???

   woo boy.  they pick all the touchy ones, don't they?  i'm convinced
that paul simon can't be beaten at his own game, but i'd love to hear this
one...it's definitely one of my favorite songs.  "i'd surely hock it..."

   darius

"all the girls with anorexia are on the street tonight
and the boys in the band think they look just fine
and i dont even know why i drove this car down congress avenue
hoping to find you turning on the light..."
   ---indigo girls, "chiapas bound"

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i have to sign off from the list and i am not too happy for several reasons:

1.  i have to go home from college.  see i've been here at school for
summer school and now i have to return to the domain of my parents - and
that's pretty hard to adjust to after moving out and going to college.
2.  i have to leave y'all.  i know i didn't post very much and i'm sure i
really bugged some people with all my requests over private e-mail.  but
whomever i e-mailed about the lilith fair videotape, i promise i will still
get it to you in the mail (karrie was it you?).  i feel like i know each
and every one of you and even though i'll be back in a month when school
begins again i just want you all to know that i have truly enjoyed,
laughed, and contemplated some of these messages on the list.  and i have
all of you to thank.
3.  indigohioans- i am still planning on attending the suffragette sessions
in cincy, so i will e-mail one of you from my friend's house back home and
we can meet up.
thanks y'all and i'll see you in a month...

sarah
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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 10:46:00 -0400
reply-to:     kelly fairbairn <fairbk@sage.edu>
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hello all!

i received a tape from the last offer and i am willing to tape it for
those who were turned down/haven't e-mailed yet/etc.etc.etc...

just e-mail me at the above address if you're interested.

kelly


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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 09:55:35 -0500
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okay, so i know this is horribly wrong, but you can flame me later.  i'll
try to think of some way to relate this to ig.  did anyone tape last
night's ellen episode?  i'd happily send a blank video, money, anything to
be able to see it.  for the first time in a long time, i didn't watch it.
silly me.
thanks!
sue
harne001@bama.ua.edu

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even as one who is guilty of discussing this topic - in fact, i may be the
instigator of this conversation - i have been thinking about the very topic
shelley is talking about...
and i agree that we should not discuss this further....but we must make a
distinction between the two parts of our discussion.

i think we are free to discuss the interpretation of the song(though i don't
particularly care to, anymore), but we should kep all parts out of it that
include amy as a person. for example, we can say, "i think it's about self-
mutilation" but we cannot say, "i think amy wrote it because she self-
mutilates." get it??? that's just my opinion, though....no flames, please.

****************************************
peace,
*erica*

"maybe move to the right, maybe move to the left,
so we can all see her pain she wears like a banner on her chest,
and we all say it's sad, and we think it's a shame,
and she's called to our attention, but we do not call her name,
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands..."
-indigo girls,
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome/
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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 11:45:37 -0500
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shelley is talking about...
and i agree that we should not discuss this further....but we must make
a
distinction between the two parts of our discussion.


i agree as well.....sparkie

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i once had an experience where someone i barely knew was giving me a
ride to my work from school, and in her car was ig doing uncle johns
band and before i said anything she said "this is the indigo girls and
if you dont like them i dont want to hear about it.  i hate guys who
think they suck".  then i told her that i loved them she thought i was
mocking her but eventually i proved to her that although i am a guy, i
had more of their stuff and had liked them longer.  then, of course we
spend the whole ride singing along and talking about how incredible they
are.  sorry that was my story of being tested and getting an a+.
                                        lynz

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hello jello   i'm not mello
oh geez, am i in a silly, happy, wonderful mood!!!
and someone out there knows why....

here's the deal...
i'll make an aol directory of listees
private email me your name and your screen name
and then i'll email the directory to those listed
luv, bar

peace + love,
forever a flower child
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okay, i got home last night from raleigh, nc lilith...it was so cool...coller
than i though possible in the absence of the girls....but then again, sarah is
a goddess in her own right, so....i didn't post last night b/c i was so
completely exhausted....i dropped into bed and fell right into sleep....

anyway, i just about danced my ass off during ever set except queen
latifah...'scuse me, i just don't like her...sorry to all you "latifah,
latifah, latifah..." fans....

i discovered these new acts i just have to recommend to y'all.....

rebekah - she's cute as pie, and she's great!!!!!!!!!! she's so sweet, too.
please, please check her out!!!!! i got her autograph too...she's gonna be
_so_ famous, and her auto. will be worth a lot!!!!!!

billie myers - many of you probably have heard of her already....her music
rocks, and she's so cool!!!!!! she has so much energy in her
performances....the two songs you might know her for are: "kiss the rain" and
"how does it feel/woman in me". i couldn't get her autograph, cause right
after her set, she ran to catch a flight...gr....her tambourinist/dancing
person was so cool, though,,,she really got into the music. and her
keyboardist was so hot! :)

trish murphy - tell you the truth, didn't hear her music, but she's really
great...she was signing at the tower records booth, and she asked every single
person their name, if they like music, if they sang or played an instrument,
etc. i told her i played guitar, but i wasn't very good cause i just started.
she said, "you know what? i've been playing for 20 years and i still don't
think i'm very good."
and i told her how my fingers hurt after every time i played...she showed me
her fingertips and said that once you've played for a while, your fingertips
get harder and it doesn't hurt. then, in between billie and rebekah's sets,
she was standing up by the b stage, and she saw me and said hi...with all the
fans getting her autograph, i didn't think she would recognize anyone, but
hey....whatever!

glassoline - i think they're local, but they have a cd out, and they were
pretty good.

n'dea davenport - she's cool, she sings awesome music...and she's gorgeous,
besides that. :)

so that's it for recommendations....i know, too long.

but anyway, i was (and still am) so mad, cause my cousin went up to the g105
booth, and somehow, she saw meredith brooks and meredith gave  her an
autographed pic...for free!!!!!!!!! but my jealousy is now abated.....

i got ash's autograph!!!!!! yes!!!! he was standing there watching billie's
set....during kiss the rain, i saw him, and i almost died, i can't believe no
one noticed him!!!!! so i went up to him and i asked him for an
autograph....he didn't have a pen, so i let him use mine...my pen, ash sood
touched my pen!!!!! i'm gonna have that pen forever!!! and he was really nice,
and he joked about the fact that he was signing a hardee's ad. :o) i'm gonna
frame that hardee's ad!!!! it was so cool. so okay, it wasn't exactly sarah,
but it's close enough!! ash is so cool...he's the only guy i've ever seen with
blue hair that i liked. ;-)

well, i'm finished raving now, so i'll leave you alone...for now!

****************************************
peace,
*erica*, who is ecstatic that she met ash!!!!!!

"can't you see i've got to live my life the way i feel is right for me,
might not be right for you, but it's right for me.....
i believe this is heaven for no one else but me,
and i'll defend it as long as i can be left here to linger in silence if i
shoose to,
would you try to understand?"
-sarah mclachlan,
"elsewhere"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome/
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and your movies are on the way folks.. you know what i am talking about.. it
takes ab 10 mins to download though.  oh, and got back the pictures i took of
emilys bday card today, so i wil try to hurry and scan them.  just returned
home after 4 days of soccer :) and boy do i feel good!

take care,
erin

p>s>

happy belated emily!  we luv you!

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hey everybody...

i thought this is pertinent to the indigo girls in that it they widely support
the native people's struggle in chiapas, mexico.  i'm sure most everybody on
the list knows about it...anyways, i wanted to forward this letter on to you
so that if you wish you too, like the indigo girls, can get involved with
helping the situation down there.

this letter is somwhat long..but well worth the time and effort...

u r g e n t a c t i o n a p p e a l urgent action network amnesty
international usa po box 1270 nederland co 80466-1270 email:
sharriso@aiusa.org http://www.amnesty-usa.org/urgact/ phone: 303 440 0913

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: thu, 23 jul 1998 02:44:52 -0400 (edt)
from: nuevo amanecer press <amanecer@aa.net>
reply-to: mexico2000@mep-d.org
to: multiple recipients of list mexico2000 <mexico2000@mep-d.org>
subject: u r g e n t    a c t i o n   a p p e a l

fax:303 258 7881 --------------------------------------------------- ua
200/98

fear for safety 14 july 1998 mexico yolanda castro - director of k'inal
antzetik, women's group. ines castro - member of k'inal antzetik, women's
group. all other members of k'inal antzetik, women's group. there are
concerns for the safety of sisters yolanda and ines castro after they
received a death threat on 10 july 1998. the two women are members of
k'inal antzetik, a chiapas-based advisory women's group. members of the
group have received a number of threats in the past and the k'inal
antzetik office has been kept under surveillance. yolanda and ines castro
believe the death threat was written by paramilitaries linked to the state
authorities. the letter, signed by 'las muertes'('the deaths'), ordered
the two sisters to leave chiapas 'before it was too late' and went on to
say:

'hasen caso de lo que estamos escribindo porque es verdad y pronto sabran
quienes somos, igual alas extrangeras que se ballan del pais porque de
todas maneras pronto las echaran. acuerde se que estamos muy cerca de
ustedes...[sic]' (take note of what we have written, because it is true
and you will soon know who we are.  the same goes for the foreign women,
they should also leave the country, because they will be thrown out soon
anyway. remember we are always near by...).

background information over the past years amnesty international has
documented the escalating violence in the state of chiapas with deep
concern.  threats against non-governmental organisations and human rights
defenders have increased recently, as in the cases of threats received by
the centro de derechos indigenas (cediac), indigenous rights centre and
those received by bishop samuel ruiz (see ua 90/98 issued 20 march and 13
january).

recommended action: please send
telegrams/telexes/faxes/express/airmail letters:
- requesting that adequate measures be taken to guarantee the
physical safety of yolanda castro, ines castro and all the other
members of k'inal antzetik;
- calling for an immediate investigation to be opened into these
death threats, that the findings be made public, and that those found
responsible be brought to justice;
- seeking assurances that all members of k'inal antzetik will be
able to carry out their peaceful activities without being subjected
to human rights violations.

appeals to:               (salutations)
attorney general of the republic                     (dear
attorney
general)
lic. jorge madrazo cuellar
senor procurador general de justicia de la republica
procuraduria general de jusitcia de la republica
paseo de la reforma y violeta, col. guerrero
06300 mexico d.f., mexico
[telegrams: procuradoria general de la republica, mexico df,
mexico]
[faxes: 011 52 5 626 4419]

governor of the state of chiapas                 (dear governor)
lic. roberto albores guillen
gobernador del estado de chiapas
palacio de gobierno,  piso 1
col. centro, 29000 tuxla gutierrez
estado de chiapas,  mexico
[telegrams: gobernador del estado, chiapas, mexico]
[faxes:011 52 961 2 0917]

attorney of the state of chiapas       (dear governor)
lic. jorge hernandez aguilar
procurador del estado de chiapas
procuraduria general del estado de chiapas
tuxla gutierrez
estado de chiapas, mexico
[telegrams: procurador del estado, chiapas, mexico]
[faxes: 011 52 961 2 8998] h.i.: this fax number is not correct!

copies to:
human rights organizations
comision de derechos humanos 'fray bartolome de las casas',
francisco leon 46, barrio de santa lucia,
san cristobal de las casas,
chiapas c.p. 29250, mexico

k'inal antzetik
avenida 5 mayo, 25
barrio de los mexicanos
san cristobal de las casas
chiapas c.p. 29240, mexico


--
harald ihmig
beim rauhen hause 30
22111 hamburg
t. 040-6518393;fax 040-65901168
email: ihmig@iname.com


ya basta!

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coordinator: usa-mexico-europe: susana saravia (anibarro)
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fyi:  i thought i would share this with the list!  take care all!
karyn kerris
secretary: laboratory of parasitic diseases
bldg. 4/126
phone: 6-2487
fax:     2-2201
e-mail: kk116w@nih.gov

> ----------
> from:         dawn dee
> sent:         friday, july 10, 1998 9:13 am
> to:   juli brown; joy butler; lakeasha mingo; sharon gordon; sherri
> strach; tina lamont; beth schmidt; karyl barron; karyn kerris; joanne
> ramella; karen broad; ann mastradone; lisa mascone; christa walter;
> shanita douglas; jo hubert; susan harrelson; ann hanson
> subject:      fw: be careful
>
> and if you haven't read the book "gift of fear" do so - it says
> exactly this - follow your instincts - if you are uncomfortable about
> someone act on that discomfort even at the risk of offending them.
> the book is terrific.
>
> words of warning we all need to pay attention to.
>
> a woman was shopping at the tuttle mall in columbus.  she came out to
> her car and saw she had a flat.  she got her jack, spare out of the
> trunk.  a man in a business suit came up and started to help her.
> when the tire had been replaced, he asked for a ride to his car on the
> opposite side of the mall.  feeling uncomfortable about doing this,
> she stalled for awhile, but he kept pressing her.  she finally asked
> why he was on this side of the mall if his car was on the other.  he
> had been talking to friends, he claimed.  still uncomfortable, she
> told him that she had just remembered something she had forgotten to
> pick up at the mall and she left him and went back inside the mall.
> she reported the incident to the mall security and they went out to
> her car. the man was nowhere in sight.  opening her trunk, she
> discovered a brief case the man had set inside her trunk while helping
> her with the tire.  inside was rope and a butcher knife!  when she
> took the tire to be fixed, the mechanic informed her that there was
> nothing wrong with her tire, that it was flat because the air had been
> let out of it!
>
> the moral of this story...learn to change your own tire, call someone
> you know and trust to help you or call mall security in the first
> place to assist you. please be safe....and not sorry.  although this
> happened in columbus, it could happen anywhere.  there are nuts
> around.  just a warning to always be alert.
>
> pass this along to every woman you have access too.  never let your
> guard down. good story for women to know about, although with the nuts
> in today's world, everyone needs to be careful (not just women).
>
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our very own pam mnoelm@aol.com, the sweet one from tx
who made a zillion folks an amy tape is a director!!!
directing what? dream of a common language
wanna know more? http://member.aol.com/echotheatr/index.html
wooooo hoooooo wishes to pam for much success!!!!

peace + love,
bar the flower child
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hey folks,

i'd just like to second what shelley said regarding the
"blood and fire" discussion - go ahead and discuss the
song by all means, but remember that there's a line
that needs to be drawn between discussing a song, your
experiences, and what it means to you, and discussing
amy's personal life...

i'd also like to say, well said shelley!

cheers,
sherlyn
=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= a+e=ig
"time has a bad habit of flying - i was sleeping when it passed me by.
i was dreaming of what i would wear, when i got there..."
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        great advice... it can be applied to those travelling the highways
this summer too. i do a lot of driving, have always done so cause i very
much enjoy being able to travel + explore new places. i also just plain love
being on the open road. sometimes my lil' jaunts end up lasting 12 hours or
more. ( and hey... pop in an ig compilation and stir, and voila!; i'm happy
happy happy...) anyhoo, with all this travel, i've learned over the years
that common sense can be the dif between a safe trip + tragedy.
        if traveling alone and nature calls ( but there are no gas stations
or fast food restaurants... the preferred pit stop.... for miles n' miles ),
i never stop at out of the way "rest areas"; i find ones that are clearly
visible from the highway and bustling with people. i make it a point never
to tell anyone i speak to incidently ( be it gas station attendant or store
clerk etc. ) where i've come from or where i'm going; you never know who is
listening or watching. before i leave, i let a close friend or family member
know exactly the route i'm taking, and once on the road, i make scheduled
calls to let her/him know where i am and that everything is okay. if i stop
at a gas station or convenience store, or restaurant, i am careful not to
flash my money around. in the car i carry a placard that says "call police"
and if ever my car breaks down on some forsaken stretch + i have no clue
what to do mechanically, i will get out only to raise my hood and then i
will sit in my locked vehicle with the sign clearly visible to all who drive
by, hopefully some kind person will stop at the next town + call the police.
i will not, however open my window more than a crack to speak to anyone who
does stop, and will not get out of my locked vehicle. carrying a cell phone
would be good in this situation, but i havn't the money for one yet + know
that at times it's impossible to make calls from certain places like the
rockies...
        of course, when i say "the dif between safe trip + tragedy" i'm not
just talking the dangerous nutcases out there... i'm talking the
unscrupulous "professionals" who take advantage of women ( and guys too for
that matter ) who end up in bad straits due to car trouble while traveling
the highways of this here fair country. case in point, i'd like to relate my
very recent experience while traveling from the west coast of bc on out
through the rockies to calgary alberta.
        i've just received custody of my two youngest kids ( aged 11 and 12
) and my gf and i went out to collect them from my ex's place in bc. we
drove out in a 1980 buick lesabre... old, yup, and a gas guzzler, yup... but
that baby floats on down the road:-) sides... there was lots of room for my
kid's stuff. my gf had her eleven year old son with her as well, so there we
were, traveling home with about $400.00 on us... knowing the trip would cost
about $200.00 in gas + food. well see... when you're traveling in an old
vehicle in hot hot hot weather + you start out to climb the infamous
coquihalla highway, ( over three hundred miles of endless hills between hope
in the fraser canyon and kamloops in the desert-like area of central bc )
things can go wrong... and they did. only half an hour into the climb the
engine overheated. now... since i've had rad trouble while traveling before,
i had with me three good big jugs of water. i pulled to the side of the road
+ let the car cool down ( hey all... if ever this happens to you... don't
shut the engine off; keep it running cause at least then your water is
circulating + not dumping on out all over the road, and if you havn't got
water with you + there's no water nearby; you can't afford to lose *any*
water... ). welp anyhoo... i let the thing cool down + then added some water
+ started out again... but even though i was babying it + not pushing it at
all, the car only lasted 10 minutes ... arrgh!! so there we were sitting on
the edge of the road when this "helpful" tow truck driver pulled up in front
of us. he looked at the engine + told us all sorts of horror stories about
what would happen if we continued on... so; being non too mechanically adept
+ not exactly sure the fellow was not a "rip off artist", my gf and i
decided we'd better accept the $80.00 tow on back to hope.
        the ride in the truck with myself, my gf and our three kids crammed
in next to this fellow with less than bad personal hygiene was a nightmare;
i could barely breath. my gf was ill and fighting a migraine from the heat,
and the poor kids were hot, thirsty, hungry and scared; though they didn't
complain one bit.
        well now, this driver didn't take us in to hope; nope. he pulled in
to a run down looking place about ten minutes north of hope on the highway.
it was bustling with at least ten car loads of unlucky travelers and *their*
"independent" tow truck operators. immediately apparent to us was the fact
that this place existed solely for the purpose of taking advantage of any
unfortunate tourist who happened to experience car trouble while on the
coquihalla. the fellows working there were all of the same sort as our
driver... dirty, sweaty smelly and *expensive*... the guy who looked at our
engine was all sweetness + light as he told us that the radiator was gone
and it would take about four hours to replace the thing. that said, he wrote
out an estimate of the cost and it was going to be $682.00!!!!! i looked at
that estimate + saw that he'd written out one rad cap @ $20.00 and coolant
at the same price, along with the cost of the rad + labor. now, i'd
purchased a new rad cap *and* coolant only weeks before, for my lil' toyota,
and i knew that there was no way a rad cap *or* coolant was going to cost me
that much, so i was, naturally suspicious of the rest of the estimate. too;
there was no way my gf and i could come up with the money this guy was
asking for. so we decided to head ( slow and down hill all the way )into
hope under our own power to find another mechanic + get a second opinion.
well, we made it + to make this long story shorter; the 2nd mechanic, at an
esso station in town, did the job in one hour for less than 1/2 what the
first mechanic had estimated.
        anyhow; the moral of the story is; get a second opinion! if you are
given an estimate; phone other auto shops + quote the estimate... shop
around. don't trust + don't get taken.
        on a positive note; my faith in human kind was restored on this trip
when, while standing at the first auto mechanic's shop, a perfect stranger
walked up to me and pressed a one hundred dollar bill into my hand, telling
me not to let her husband ( who was near by ) know she'd done so. she had
been watching my gf and i with our 3 kids, and she was very worried at the
predicament we were in so she committed one of those there "random acts of
kindness". because of her, we actually had the money to pay our mechanic
*and* make it home. i intend, once i *have* money:-) to pass the act on some
way, some how.
        then too, there was the australian guy in golden, much much later in
our trip,  who ( upon seeing us at a busy gas station unable to get the car
started {we'd been *there* for an hour } ) zapped himself whilst wiggling
our starter wires + then skinned off all his knuckles on the fan while
showing me exactly where the starter wires were + what to do with them,
should the car refuse to start again.... good samaritan; he. my hat off to
him too.
        there are nice folk out there too!
        anyhoo... enough of this non-ig rambling... i'm off to make potato
salad...
good day n' safe travels to you all:-)
peace, kim: goddess in her own reality
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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 18:07:29 edt
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i just read in the city paper that amy and emily are going to be at the 9:30
club on august 10th. it is a benfit for the gay and lesbian task force. tix
are $25. they said they are on sale now...

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hey there!
      okay, how pathetic is this?  i'm getting online to find someone to hang
out with me... there's an awesome concert tonight and all of my lame friends
don't want to go... anyone want to meet and go to boy george & culture
club/human league/howard jones tonight?  it's at chastain at 7:30.  i'm
getting in the shower now, but i'll check messages when i'm out or you can
call me at (770) 908-2246.  peace, sarah

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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 15:52:06 pdt
reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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subject:      nigc: danielle howel help!!!!
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ok ya'll i'm a spazz..i thought i'd left my danielle live at mckissick
museum cd at my cousin's..but i found it today...the day after i sent
another order to daemon..which means i'm going to have another copy of
live and the poster thingy..cuz it's still on special..anyone want to
take it off my hands once i get it? $13 is what i paid w/shipping and
i'll eat the cost to get it to ya!!

*hugs*

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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 18:00:16 edt
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hello...i hope that ya'll get this message. i would love to chat with anybody
and everybody. my name is amyeray. pretty cute huh? lol


take care and hope to talk soon!

amy

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date:         thu, 23 jul 1998 19:11:58 -0400
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more info please

i'm going through ig withdrawal!1

love, karen

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> i just read in the city paper that amy and emily are going to be at the 9:30
> club on august 10th. it is a benfit for the gay and lesbian task force. tix
> are $25. they said they are on sale now...
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sitting here at work.....got here at 7 am.will be here till 10 or so.got
sts screaming on th ecd player on my computer.the cleaning people just
love it when i stay late. they started dancing earlier.....too funny.
been a heck of a day and really bad week...made me smile to see them
dance to the songs. the sun is coming down now...at that annoying stage
at my right eye. but it is coming thru the latest of my creations...a
piece of stained glass about 4x4 with a 1.5x1.5 mirror in the
center.surrounding it are triangles in rainbow colors going around it.
the piece next to it is my indigo blue piece with the goddess bona dea
in the middle about 5 inches tall....even tho i am still here, listening
to leeds and seeing the shades of beautiful indigo on my hands as i type
feverishly on the keyboard.....think i'll make it thru after
all.......thanks girls....a+e= always + eternity....(my original).......
sparkie

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i have a copy of it. i am willing to make a copy for the first five that
e-mail me about it. i would like to trade for it. missy

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subject:      re: totally nigc - ellen
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hi all,
sorry about the nigc.
i only became an ellen fan after it was cancelled in australia (a rather
silly move) and have seen a few eps through some rather kind friends
(ellen kisses paige, ellen kisses laurie, coming out ep).

i'd be eternally grateful to anyone who could send me any other episodes -
especially the one with igs and the final show.  if you can help email me
privately and we'll make some arrangement.

could someone please tell me the address for the ellen list (i"m just a
sucker for an over flowing mail box!) so i can not bother ig fans with
nigc
thanks muchly
joanna

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some people have written me for ticket purchase info...unfortunately, pro tix
used to  take care of tix for the 9:30 but now ticket bastard does...

ticket bastard for the dc area can be reached at 202-432-seat, 800-551-seat,
and 703-573-seat

hope that helps... :)

all this and tina and the b sides are going to be here on my b day yahooey!!!!

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i just wanted to say thanks to whoever posted the ai urgent action.  i am
a longtime member of ai (since my 2nd yr in high school, and i am now a
college jr) and president of my college's ai chapter.   i think that it is
really important to write ua's, not just about chiapas or lesbigay rights,
but about anyone in any country whose human rights are being violated.
i'd encourage y'all to join ai.  most communities have a local chapter and
almost every single college or university has a group.  many high schools
are also forming groups.  if you are in a place where there is no ai
chapter, call 1-800-amnesty about forming one.  it is easy to do, and it
is a great organization to get involved with.  if any of you have any
questions, feel free to e-mail me.  also (while i'm on the ai tangent),
did anyone else attend the ai national confrence in san francisco last
march?  i was there.  i'd love to hear from you if you were also there!

love,
karen :-)

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in a message dated 7/23/98 11:44:35 pm, msinghaus@msmisp.com wrote:

>i have a copy of it. i am willing to make a copy for the first five that
>
>e-mail me about it. i would like to trade for it

same deal here, first five that e-mail me.  i would prefer to trade also, and
i'm not picky!  i don't have any of the boots listed in the faq, so i guess
those are what i'm looking for first, although  seriously i will take
anything.

peace,
emily

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i'm going to lilith tomorrow at the coca-cola lakewood ampitheatre in atlanta,
ga.

anyone been there before?

we have lawn seats.... can we take anything in with us  i.e. blanket,
umbrella, water???

let me know if you know!

~~robin

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hey! - it is against the law for them not being able to accomodate a person
who can't stand and it's also been recently settled that ppl with
disabilities need to have access to all parts of the theater, not somewhere
in the back. this isn't a special privilidge, it's a basic right - call the
theater nowe and ask what they do for disabled concert goers - the roseland
show is going to be an incredible opportunity, i know several people in the
nyc area who have no problems with access if they plan ahead - besides all
you wonderful nyigls (new york indigo girls listees) should group together -
i mean guinness was fun but i don't think it was the ig fault they played a
large venue where one could barely see them without standing (i was
exhausted and *couldn't* stand for the entire set.  i know at newport one
year they let two women in wheelchairs right in front. newport isn't that
far from nyc...

don't let inaccessability be the reason why you don't go to a show...

access=equality
mike r.

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just picked up a city paper, and ig will be performing at the 9:30 club in
dc on august 10th.  the show is a benefit for ngltf (nat'l gay and lesbian
task force), and tickets are on sale now!!

i'll still be in newport... :-(


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this may be in the faq or at the daemon site but i don't recall seeing
it..does anyone know why amy decided to call it daemon records??

*hugs*

lamia
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18.2. what is daemon records?

daemon records is a non-profit independent record label which was
started by amy in 1990.  based in decatur, georgia, daemon is "a
vehicle to allow recording artists to express their artistic vision
without the confines and restrictions of the traditional corporate
rock label".  amy believes strongly that diversity is the label's
first priority and strives to present music for people of all ages.
the common factor among the artists on the label is an "attention
to the craft of songwriting".

some of the artists signed to the daemon label include gerard
mchugh, danielle howle and reversing hour; former artists on the
label include kristen hall and band de soleil.  daemon was also
involved in the 1994 release of "jesus christ superstar: a
resurrection".  one of its most recent projects was the compilation
two-cd set "honor1", proceeds from which go towards aiding the
honor the earth campaign.

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hey everyone,

sorry if this info has been given already... i can't find it, or maybe i
deleted it unknowingly...  can anyone tell me what number i need to call
to get tix for the show at the(?) agora?  i would greatly appreciate the
help!!!  thanks in advance! :)

peace, melissa

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rage/ my senses said it would lead me astray/ i said go, go, go -a.r.

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um..that doesn't answer my question, maybe i wasn't clear enough i know
what daemon is (goodness knows i order stuff from them constantly!)
my question was does anyone know why amy called it that. why daemon? it
coulda been indigo records, or problem child records..get what i'm
saying? i was just curious to why she picked that name!!

*hugs*

lamia

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oh.... i know that is what you ment..

i just could not get any different info then that!  sorry!

help!!!

babs

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can anyone help me find a good copy of the franklin and marshall college
lancaster boot from 5/7/93? if so, please e-mail me, i have lots to trade
for it. thanks.

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hi listees,
i should have made my aol directory post more specific....
i'm making a directory of our instant messenger screen names.

if you don't have aol instant messenger,
just go to http://www.newaol.com/aim
(you don't have to be an aol member)

woooooo hoooooo!
lots o' listees gots im...
who woodda thunk it?
not me, i had no idea...
but i'm soooo far out of the loop and unkewl too!
xoxo, bar

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in a message dated 98-07-23 21:43:41 edt, asl@umcs.maine.eduwrite:

<< i mean guinness was fun but i don't think it was the ig fault they played a
large venue where one could barely see them without standing (i was
exhausted and *couldn't* stand for the entire set.  i know at newport one
year they let two women in wheelchairs right in front. newport isn't that
far from nyc... >>

i never said it was the igs fault, i just said that i hope that they play a
venue real soon where we can sit comfortably.  my girlfriend is not in a
wheelchair but she has bad knee problems and was not able to stand for the
entire ig set (which was very short by the way, but probably longer than at
lilith) for fleadh.  and yes, we know about the laws, etc.  i do know that the
girls were at msg last summer and hopefully they'll be back soon.
unfortunately i wasn't a fan of the girls at that time and neither was my
partner and on top of that, we didn't even know each other yet.

wmntime

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hello everyone,

  i had this weird dream the other night that i thought i would
share.....i guess this girl amy is really getting to me because i had a
dream about her and i only started listening to their music about a
month ago.....anyway it was her and me sitting in hell and for some
reason we were playing go fish, and it was getting really intense, we
were head to head right, and i notice that amy has been cheating and
racking up the points so i mention it to satan, who sticks up for
her....so she wins and takes off with a red-head in a tight rubber body
suit, and satan just shrugs at me......weird huh?  i wonder what it all
means?  ne wayz....back to the vampworld

see ya,
debs


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date:         fri, 24 jul 1998 03:42:21 -0400
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can we pleaaaaaaaase stop talking about satan?!  debi, are you really an
ig fan, or do you just need attention?  i mean, come on.  i don't even
*want* to think about what the girls think if they actually read this
list. card games and amy?  do you even know who amy is?

allright, let's discuss a song or something! no satan, no vampires, and no
posting that you think amy is a vampire!

i am sorry i had to post this...

karen

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hey y'all!

tonight when i was in one of my fave bookstores (i am so sorry if someone
already posted this.  i haven't been able to keep up with everything for
the past few days), i saw a magazine (was it called "diva"?  it was a
lesbian mag) with a little blurb about the cancelled high school shows.
anyway, there is an older picture (very small) of emily and amy, and just
a short paragraph about the whole ordeal.  i was going to buy it, but
since i am *trying* to save money, i figured that i really didn't need
it...

again, i am very sorry if someone already posted this.  i am kind of in a
daze.

love,
karen :-)

ps- tomorrow is friday!  isn't that the day that we're supposed to get
info on ig tickets in chicago?!?!?

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in a message dated 98-07-24 03:43:43 edt, karen writes:

<< can we pleaaaaaaaase stop talking about satan?! >>

actually, i thought that was one of the better ig dreams i've read on this
list......heheheheh ... pretty darn funny.

i say cut the kid some slack ...  she's ok.
she's right where she needs to be.
on this damn list :)

claire e. poo esq.

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you know me, can never keep my mouth shut, i have emailed some of you
privately who wrote me after my last post about this...but i'm going to
post this to all now.

i have a 15 year old daughter.  this "deb singer" no where near matches
my daughter's level of maturity.  and to match it would be no hard feat
to accomplish.  she's your typical 15 year old.  "deb singer" on the
other hand, in my humble opinion, appears to me to be a "plant" on this
list.  i don't believe for one minute that she is 15, or even a she.  i
believe that this person has either stumbled on our list happenchance,
or was directed by someone, to deliver these ugly posts to get a rise
out of us.

indigo love is not what this person needs.  if she is indeed a child,
she needs her ass kicked.  dreams about amy and her playing fish in
hell?  think about this...she/he is obviously trying to do something to
us, whatever the something is i don't know, it dosen't really matter
except for the fact we are subject to her doofus posts.

ignore her/him/it, maybe this plague will go away.  if not, lets email a
load of anitbiotics to her.

love karen

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hhhhhhhh...........i smell a flamewar a-brewing........warm up those
delete-buttons........

<sigh>..........

sincerely,
ian c.
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>i have a 15 year old daughter.  this "deb singer" no where near matches
>my daughter's level of maturity.  and to match it would be no hard feat
>to accomplish.  she's your typical 15 year old.  "deb singer" on the
>other hand, in my humble opinion, appears to me to be a "plant" on this
>list.  i don't believe for one minute that she is 15, or even a she.  i
>believe that this person has either stumbled on our list happenchance,
>or was directed by someone, to deliver these ugly posts to get a rise
>out of us.

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i'm looking for a boot of the oct. 28th concert at the palace in new haven,
ct.  if anyone has it i would greatly appreciate a copy. thanks jo

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i have been out of the indigo loop for quite awhile (just had a baby) and
was looking for any info on ig being at the agora in clev on 8/26.  a friend
heard that tickets go on sale today.  any further info?

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in honor the vacation hubby & i are taking (tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) )
here's a new topic o'discussion.  what's the best ig song to play while you're
driving?

let me be the first to nominate "least complicated."  i love it because the
song has a great musical build and it's perfect for singing at the top of your
lungs while you boogie on down the highway.  if you're nice you can even let
your companion take a verse.  :)

peace,
lisa j.

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ummm... considering the scope of 15 yr olds that i
know, she seems pretty "normal" on the low end of
maturity.  you know, the "my parents never understand
me so i worship satan rather than find some other
spirituality and i really love manson and i'm gonna
rock as a parent because i'll let my kids do
everything wrong that i do" attitude.

but a plant?  *who* would plant her and *why?*  she's
15, she *thinks* it's her job to get a rise out of
people.  use the delete key, that's what i do.

ok has anyone seen the new issue of strangers in
paradise?  the one where it's a one shot of xena?  i
think i missed it, but i go to the comic store every
week or so and can't see how i missed it.  email me
personally if you know any details.

muchas gracias folks,
amanda


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stumbled on our list happenchance, or was directed by
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out of us.
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> indigo love is not what this person needs.  if she
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i nominate "it's alright"---not only is it a good road trip tune, but watch
your speed on it, my foot tends to get a bit heavy while carelessly singing
at the top of my lungs...the live "land of canaan" from 1200 curfews is
great, too....

winona (who suprisingly hasn't gotten a speeding ticket!)

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hello
sorry about this but i just wanted to say me too - only i'm in canada
not australia...
sarah


>hi all,
>sorry about the nigc.
>i only became an ellen fan after it was cancelled in australia (a
rather
>silly move)
>i'd be eternally grateful to anyone who could send me any other
episodes -
>especially the one with igs and the final show.  if you can help email
me
>privately and we'll make some arrangement.
>
>could someone please tell me the address for the ellen list (i"m just a
>sucker for an over flowing mail box!) so i can not bother ig fans with
>nigc
>thanks muchly
>joanna

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i nominate "get out the map"...its a happy song

and the one, packed a cooler and a two day suitcase..can't remember the
title

love, karen

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i must admit to really liking the black disk from 1200 curfews.seems i
like the even songs on the disk the best.and with its length  it makes
long trips that much easier. the river and southland in the springtime
are really good. soy is great but you will get a ticket...or at min. a
warning. i too have lead foot disease when singing at the tops of my
lungs. i got a warning from a state trooper in new mexico, just outside
of santa rosa i think...the tropper was a strikingly attractive female
and she began laughing when i told her why i was speeding. she pulled
out her billfold and showed me a ticket stub from a recent ig concert.
we laughed.i still think about that one when i am doing my usual
oklahoma to arizona jaunt.....maybe ...if i'm lucky i'll get pedal happy
again sometime thru there...
sparkie..who is 10 days away from road trip to pennsylvania....gotta buy
batteries....(no cd player in car have to use portable....i know what
some were thinking.......me too)..
indigolove and peace

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on fri, 24 jul 1998, lisa jebsen wrote:

> in honor the vacation hubby & i are taking (tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) )
> here's a new topic o'discussion.  what's the best ig song to play while you're
> driving?

   how about all the fast songs off shaming of the sun?  i mean, damn!
shame on you, shed your skin, scooter boys...
   then there's least complicated, hammer and a nail, also favorites...soy
is probably my fave -- distinctive enough that if ii play it at earbleed
levels, any ig fans on the road will know what it is and honk and wave.
that's fun...  ;)

   darius

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and the boys in the band think they look just fine
and i dont even know why i drove this car down congress avenue
hoping to find you turning on the light..."
   ---indigo girls, "chiapas bound"

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> the past few days), i saw a magazine (was it called "diva"?  it was a
> lesbian mag) with a little blurb about the cancelled high school shows.
> anyway, there is an older picture (very small) of emily and amy, and just
> a short paragraph about the whole ordeal.

yeah, there's not much in it you wouldn't have seen already. but on the
next page, there's a picture of my uni's lgbt group and a caption that
says "lesbians and gay men outside the scottish office" and i'm the leetle
tiny one with the blue hair, on the left hand side of the piccie.

just thought i'd share...

sharon

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i like anything by amy because then i can actually sing along.  emily's
voice is just too high...

sarah


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my favorite is chickenman....

:)
anna
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date:         fri, 24 jul 1998 09:47:30 -0500
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hey everyone-
sorry to waste the bandwidth, but could the people who have been on this
list longer than 2 and a half year please privately mail me?

i am doing a survey and need your input...

thanks-
karrie
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to bring the subject back around to the indigo girls and away from the
deep, dark, satanic, and self-mutilating, i am beginning to organize the
agora list meet for aug. 22.

since this show is gen. admission, i need to know from all the
agora-ites going if you are interested in doing the meet before hand or
afterhand, as doing something beforehand may jeopardize your place in
line...

however, we could all hit the flats or a great coffeehouse after and sit
around and bs about the concert.

anyhoo, all those who are interested, (besides don and deidre!!  :>  )
send me a mail privately and we will start the wheels a turning...

we now return you to your weird 90's version of dark shadows, already in
progress.......

peace-
karrie, who is off to snatch up indi as she is clawing at my blinds...

"no kitty, no!!"

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> i have been out of the indigo loop for quite awhile (just had a baby) and
> was looking for any info on ig being at the agora in clev on 8/26.  a friend
> heard that tickets go on sale today.  any further info?
>
congratulations!  yes, they went on sale this morning at 10:00am.
tickets are being sold through ticketmaser.  the cleveland ticketmaster #
is (216)-241-5555.  i just got two tix and spent $50.25...  $20 apiece
+ service charges...  the show is general admission.  hope you get
tickets! good luck.

peace, melissa

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anyone have any new info on the suffragette chicago shows yet?

winona the clueless

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tickets are on sale now for the september 2
show at the electric factory.
$22.50 each.
i just got mine.
who else is going?
jk

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my favorite road trip tune has to be get out the map!!
it has "road trip" written all over it and it's a happy song!
~jennifer

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on fri, 24 jul 1998, amanda wrote:
> she's 15, she *thinks* it's her job to get a rise out of
> people.  use the delete key, that's what i do.
>
        i don't know if she's "genuine" or not.  ultimately, i just think
she's so off the wall that i couldn't even fathom responding to her posts
seriously.  she doesn't get a "rise" outta me.  at my meanest, she just
makes me laugh, cuz i find it so hard to take her seriously... sure, she
seems pretty wack to most of us... but, if she's real, gosh, don't ya just
pity her misdirection and need for attention?  (yeah, i know, lotta
help "pity" will do) it's really hard for me to be fair to "deb" (that is
be respectful), but i'm really tryin'...  and, yeah, hopefully this list
could help her out... it's a decent incentive not to start huge public
flame wars...  we never really know about anyone's genuineness (i don't
think that's a word...) if we only know them through email...  but, i'm
willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, and just ignore her...
just wanted to throw in my multi-perspective, often contradictory,
non-sensical as usual point of view...

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand-a.r.

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hey everyone,

my partner made an "ig road tape"  full of ig road songs...  i can't
remember all that's on it, mostly amy...  two of my favorites for the road
are joking and world falls.

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand-a.r.

-my life is more than a vision-e.s.

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hmmm...i think my choice for a road trip would be rop...the whole
album...i've moved across the country, twice, with that on my walkman
(although barbara kessler snuck in for a couple of hours on the last
trip).

and to start my own tangent (its a slow day at work, and i need
amusement to keep my mind off of my flubbed blind date last night), who
would you most like to hear one of the girls sing a duet with (or both
of them, if that suits you...but then its not really a duet anymore)?

peace, y'all,
shelley

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as melissa states in her email and amy ray often tells us,

"gotta learn to respect what we dont understand"

thanks for the wise mail melissa.  i am with ya on that one.


erin~  who cant believe that the ig august 5th show in atlanta sold out in 20
mintues!
*cry*   *whine*

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"""and to start my own tangent (its a slow day at work, and i need
amusement to keep my mind off of my flubbed blind date last night), who
would you most like to hear one of the girls sing a duet with (or both
of them, if that suits you...but then its not really a duet anymore)?"""

catie curtis would be good add. and also carrie newcomer. tara mclean as
well......sparkies .02...

or in a great world....i could sing with em and play keyboard or
guitar....dream world.....

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for a road trip song, i can't think of anything better than get out the
map! perfect!! (i got a speeding ticket in big spring, tx once while
driving through blasting welcome me) have fun, fun, fun on your vacation!!

susan

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date:         fri, 24 jul 1998 17:00:15 +0500
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does anyone have the lyrics for nueva senorita? i you do then i would
appreciate a copy.

thanks and take care
sharon

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definitely carrie newcomer...she's pretty darn cool!

of course, we shall see what is performed at suffragette...i am looking
forward to a "barracuda" jam session!!!! :-)

winona

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karen wrote:
can we pleaaaaaaaase stop talking about satan?!  no satan, no vampires,
and no posting that you think amy is a vampire!

i agree!!..i mean everyone has a right to whatever religion they want,
however we don't usually discuss satanism on the list and i find it
personally offensive.
i can't really say anything about the vampires part *l* but ya'll know i
don't usually say much about that either..
just a theme on a homepage...but really be practical! amy is not a
vampire. no one is!

*hugs*

lamia
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to hear the things i never said
i will return to you
to be a light beam through a cloud
to laugh at things i'm singing now
i will, i will return to you.."
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on fri, 24 jul 1998, riney, lora lei l. wrote:

> catie curtis would be good add. and also carrie newcomer. tara mclean as
> well......sparkies .02...

   yaay!  carrie newcomer!  hometown hero!  (along with mellencamp, of
course...)
   i could think of a lot of people -- i'd love to see 'em do more stuff
with michael stipe, or since they've been getting into some americana
flavored rock, robin wilson of the now-defunct gin blossoms would be cool.
billy joel would be mighty excellent, too.
   as females go -- well, they've done stuff with emmylou and sarah
and k's choice that i enjoyed -- hearing them and bonnie raitt play
together would be something to talk about...

   darius

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and the boys in the band think they look just fine
and i dont even know why i drove this car down congress avenue
hoping to find you turning on the light..."
   ---indigo girls, "chiapas bound"

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amanda wrote:
ummm... considering the scope of 15 yr olds that i
know, she seems pretty "normal" on the low end of
maturity.

even though i agree that we shouldn't/dont want to discuss satanism, i
also agree with this..that's why lel and i are into vampires (forgive me
for mentioning) and low and behold, the indigo girls (my mom hates them)
it was all a bit of rebellion in the beginning!

*hugs*

lamia

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yee-haw!  hootenany!  i want to see them play with her and her band
(okay, we're up to an octet or something now, but i'm the grumpy one and
its my fantasy, so there)...in a properly small club, ending with a big
old washboard version of "the bird or the wing"...maybe bring michelle
malone in, too.  she's got that whole country thing down.  it could be
the next big thing, like that "closer to fine" song or whatever its
called ;)...

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hi guyses

i just had to come out of lurkdom to say.. when i left nashville for the
gorgeous state of colorado (i am not going back!),  i did the cheesy
thing... my sister and i (isn't it great when you convert your siblings
to be ig fans?) played "nashville" and sang as loud as we could... right
after that, we put in sos...  it was a great trip... full of ig and
weird indie bands, and my sister's odd and uncharacteristic obsession
with garth brooks.  there's nothing like pulling into colorado,
listening to "world falls," and staring at more stars than this city kid
had seen in years...

oh, and to karrie with indi, the blind scratching kitty...  at least
your cat didn't try to scratch your date last night when he tried to
kiss you goodnight.

"i promise he's not biting me, malkie!!!" (does this mean my cat is a
vampire?)

much love to all....

jo anne

"i wouldn't buy you time, if it was for sale,
i might sic my dog on you if you brought the mail
but don't you dream of happiness when you're feeling blue?
i haven't seen modesty from the likes of you"
-the connells  "doing you is like doing time"

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hey y'all,

amy and catie curtis would be really cool.  although, of what i know,
catie's intimidated by her.  okay, let me be more clear, at a concert
catie told a story that she was at a club (in texas, i believe) and wasn't
sure how it was going to go and a few songs into the set, she looked out
and saw amy and thought, <pant><pant> there's amy ray.  oh, god, i have to
finish this set...  the "pants" sounded to me like shocked and scared
pants (like, breathe, don't forget to breathe...)  and the part about
finishing the set seemed to me like she was sayin' "oh gosh, how am i
going to do this (and do it well) with amy ray watching me... doesn't
matter i gotta get through it, i can't stop and freak out..."  okay that's
my interpretation... she may have changed or i may be totally off base,
i'm just sharin'...

another cool duet would be amy ray and melissa ferrick...  i have no idea
how they feel about each other, why the heck would i...

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -amy ray

-my life is more than a vision -emily saliers

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date:         fri, 24 jul 1998 12:24:39 -0400
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hello everyone,

has anyone heard a really scary rumor about one of the girls?  please
don't ask me what, and don't mail the list unnecessarily asking. if you
heard, you know...  or you'll know soon enough...  i *pray* it's not
true... can anyone confirm truth or fiction?  believe me, if you don't
know you'll find out, and if you do know, please let us know...

peace and prayers, melissa

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date:         fri, 24 jul 1998 12:28:35 -0400
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hello all!

i just wanted to let the people know that already e-mailed me
regarding the amy compilation tape that i will get in touch soon.  i am
still going through my inbox, so i will do a mass mailing sometime today.
i will continue to take requests until monday night, but since other
people have stepped up to tape, you may want to get in touch with them.

nigc--i am looking for an ani mailing list.  (like i don't get enough
non-work-related e-mail already!  ;)  could someone send me some info?

anywho, have a great weekend everybody.  i'm jealous of those of you who
will be going to falcon ridge this weekend...maybe next year..<wistful
sigh>

kelly
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less than a month to burlington...

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i just heard on the radio that the cowboy junkies are playing a free
show at the borders on michigan ave. next tuesday evening (the 28th).
anyone interested in meeting up to go see them?

peaches,
shelley

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well this would be more like a five person song.. a quintet... i would love to
hear them do more stuff with the roches... i really think the roches are what
makes airplane so cool, and i love the roches stuff, i think the two groups
should combine more often, they are so cool and awesome together...

as for duets... oh oh oh, me me me! ; )
::waving hand wildly in the air and practically jumping out of her seat::
--kate : )

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not i, that's for sure.  but as of now, my prayers are going out to whatever
the hell is going on.  anyone with me?

jeez, this winthrop song sure is beautiful :)

erin

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the absolute best ig driving song has got to be
jonas & ezekial

indigo hugs to all
heather
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bootlegs, poetry, just plain go there, make me happy,
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if you guys could tell amy and emily to cover any song at a show, what would
it be?

mine would be "the boxer"  by simon and garfunkel.... such beautiful
harmonies, imho, the next best to ig.  man, they sure would tear it up wouldnt
they???

:)

trooper

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very cool thread!  and perfect timing too, as i'm leaving 7/31 for a
cross country trip to see our beloved girls at the newport ff !!  ca to
ri in 5 days, baby!   : )

anyway, my absolute fave is closer to fine, 1200 curfews version.  they
rock!  it's just such a feel-good tune.  another good'un is land of
canaan (1200c version again)  there are tons others, of course!

i'd love to meet other listees who will be at newport ff.  can we
arrange something?  i've been to newport before, but not the festival,
so i'm not sure how easy it would be to meet up somewhere.  but i'm
willing to give it a try 8^)    any takers??

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> not i, that's for sure.  but as of now, my prayers are going out to whatever
> the hell is going on.  anyone with me?
>
> jeez, this winthrop song sure is beautiful :)
>
> erin
>
hey all!

i'm really sorry for scaring anyone unnecessarily... at this point, this
rumor (which it is my intention not to spread if untrue) looks like a
rumor...  no confirmation, but i'm feeling a little better...

peace and hope, melissa

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well, congrats on the baby, bethy!!!!! what's his/her name??? sorry, can't
help ya with ticket info, but i just had to congratulate you!!!!!!! let's give
a big yay!!!!! for bethany!!!!!

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peace,
*erica*,
who is still ecstatic that she met ash!!!!!!

"can't you see i've got to live my life the way i feel is right for me,
might not be right for you, but it's right for me.....
i believe this is heaven for no one else but me,
and i'll defend it as long as i can be left here to linger in silence if i
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would you try to understand?"
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i agree with karen(are you #1 or #2??) but anyway, "get out the map" and
"power of two" are great for the road...

1) they have great rhythm, melody, harmonies, etc...

2) both songs are about being out on the road

3) both are "feel good" songs


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*erica*,
who is still ecstatic that she met ash!!!!!!

"can't you see i've got to live my life the way i feel is right for me,
might not be right for you, but it's right for me.....
i believe this is heaven for no one else but me,
and i'll defend it as long as i can be left here to linger in silence if i
shoose to,
would you try to understand?"
-sarah mclachlan,
"elsewhere"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome
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on fri, 24 jul 1998, <erin tripp> wrote:

> if you guys could tell amy and emily to cover any song at a show, what would
> it be?
>
> mine would be "the boxer"  by simon and garfunkel.... such beautiful
> harmonies, imho, the next best to ig.  man, they sure would tear it up wouldnt
> they???

   hmmm...a great song to cover...i'd rather see them do something that
wasn't written with the harmonies in mind, though.  i mean, does anybody
else think that songs are organic, and what's the point of trying to sing
it just like the original?  if'n yer gonna cover something, do it
original...the ig version of tangled up in blue is a stunning example of
that.
   and so, thus, i present the cover which ig should do <drumroll please>
... nightswimming, from rem's automatic for the people album.  (if you
don't have it...it's one of the most beautiful musical works of the
decade...)  gorgeous.  and it would lend itself well to the girls'
harmonies, with emily soaring up with the violin arrangements, amy
hauntingly choking on the images...
   gorgeous.  i've got the idea, i could record it in me studio ... too
bad i only play and can't sing worth fark...
   i'm already salivating.

   darius

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and the boys in the band think they look just fine
and i dont even know why i drove this car down congress avenue
hoping to find you turning on the light..."
   ---indigo girls, "chiapas bound"

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on fri, 24 jul 1998, owl moontide wrote:

> *erica*,
> who is still ecstatic that she met ash!!!!!!

   did you congratulate him on the baby?  ;)

   darius

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i would love to hear the girls cover more james taylor in concert....like
"fire and rain"...or maybe they could do some eagles stuff...

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m'lissa,

don't you know, now you've got us all dying of curiousity! ooooh.......if you
think i'll find out in the near future, i won't ask you....but otherwise,
argh!!!!!!!!!

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peace,
*erica*,
who is still ecstatic that she met ash!!!!!!

"can't you see i've got to live my life the way i feel is right for me,
might not be right for you, but it's right for me.....
i believe this is heaven for no one else but me,
and i'll defend it as long as i can be left here to linger in silence if i
shoose to,
would you try to understand?"
-sarah mclachlan,
"elsewhere"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome
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in a message dated 98-07-24 12:09:52 edt, strange_fire66@hotmail.com writes:

<<  like that "closer to fine" song or whatever its
called ;)... >>


excuse me, where are you from???? :-) that's just too crazy to believe that
you're serious.......

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*erica*,
who is still ecstatic that she met ash!!!!!!

"can't you see i've got to live my life the way i feel is right for me,
might not be right for you, but it's right for me.....
i believe this is heaven for no one else but me,
and i'll defend it as long as i can be left here to linger in silence if i
shoose to,
would you try to understand?"
-sarah mclachlan,
"elsewhere"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome
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i think we did this cover tangent a few years ago, but my vote would
still be "joey" by concrete blonde...for that matter, i'd give much to
hear amy sing w. johnette napoletano.

and what's this about a baby?

strawberries,
shelley

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now what in the world would make you tease us like that ?????
post a cryptic message and not say what it is about ?????
that is so cruel ! why ? why why why ?
oh....i don't know.........hmmmmm .....let's see .....
whatever could make you do that ???.......could it be.....
could it be................ satan ????????????

;)
claire

( just kidding !!!!!  i was just looking for an excuse to unleash
  the church lady..... i don't care about any silly old rumor.)

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in a message dated 98-07-24 13:44:37 edt, dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu writes:

<<   did you congratulate him on the baby?  ;) >>

apparently(unfortunately), the pregnancy thing was entirely rumor...it seems
that it was,in fact, food poisoning.....so no, i didn't.


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peace,
*erica*,
who is still ecstatic that she met ash!!!!!!

"can't you see i've got to live my life the way i feel is right for me,
might not be right for you, but it's right for me.....
i believe this is heaven for no one else but me,
and i'll defend it as long as i can be left here to linger in silence if i
shoose to,
would you try to understand?"
-sarah mclachlan,
"elsewhere"
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/indigome
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in a message dated 7/24/98 5:25:31 pm, gitroop@aol.com wrote:

>if you guys could tell amy and emily to cover any song at a show, what would
>it be?


i would love to hear emily play "a case of you"  by joni mitchell.  or, if
it's been too long since she's played the song and she can't remember it, *i*
could play it and she could sing....that would be great :)


emily

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ok, i called the riv this morning, and the guy said that as far as he knows
tix for the chicago suffregette sessions will go on sale monday thru
ticketmaster.  he didn't know how much they will cost.  the riviera is a
general admission venue.


emily

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in a message dated 7/24/98 3:20:39 pm, strange_fire66@hotmail.com wrote:

>and to start my own tangent (its a slow day at work, and i need
>amusement to keep my mind off of my flubbed blind date last night), who
>would you most like to hear one of the girls sing a duet with (or both
>of them, if that suits you...but then its not really a duet anymore)?

alright, i realize that this isn't really possible.  but i would love to hear
the outcome of a jam session between emily and jim morrison.  can you imagine
it???????    her light and soaring voice would compliment his deep growls and
haunting incantations perfectly!

break on through to the other side.....
emily

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>date:    fri, 24 jul 1998 08:48:03 edt
>from:    lisa jebsen <ljebsen@aol.com>
>subject: road trip tune
>
>in honor the vacation hubby & i are taking (tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) )
>here's a new topic o'discussion.  what's the best ig song to play while
you're
>driving?


hi!
    i was going to wait at least a few days (i just subscribed) to say hello
to y'all. this post however has struck me, because i have a great story that
goes perfectly.
    last year (almost exactly a year ago), my best friend, my boyfriend and
i went on a (gay) camping trip. "shaming of the sun" was recently new and i
thought to myself, "what a perfect traveling cd!" i pictured us driving out
of the city, with "get out the map" blaring in the jeep's speakers.
    well we took off, but my friend scott didn't want to hear the cd just
yet. i was very bummed. i forget what we listened to, but it wasn't travel
oriented. we drove for about an hour when we stopped at a rest stop. as we
were nearing our eighth day of a heat wave, the temperature and humidity
were unbearable. they said, however, there would be a cold front coming down
from the north (i'm in pa) and we would probably hit some rain.
    when we got back into the jeep, we put on the cd. i felt better but
still not as hyped because we had already been on the road and the music
just didn't have the same impact. the rain started pouring down on us as amy
and emily played in my ears. just as "hey, kind friend" came on, the rain
began to clear. i think there may have been a rainbow; i don't remember.
what a perfect song for the moment. we rolled down the windows and the most
sweet cool air rushed in. all the while the soothing guitar and whistle set
the mood.
    the hot dirty city air was replaced by the wild cool air of the
mountains. my honey felt so good next to me. the music was the soundtrack of
the first scene in a great weekend.
    so if you ask what to listen to. i suggest "shaming..." many of the
songs are travel oriented and go great with the windows down!

    thanks for listening!

            '( '-' )'  bearnaked joe

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yes of course we've all heard... and it's true!
armageddon is soon upon us!!!!
remember the drill; kneel under your desk with your hands clasped firmly
over the backs of your necks....
anyhoo folkies... this whole series of posts + replies, if you'll pardon my
paranoid state:-) appears to have a flavour of "same origin" to it...
despite the differing addys + sigs... :-) sigh... too much time + thought in
my tupperware kit today...
peace all... kim
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at 10:57 am 7/24/98 pdt, shelley wrote:
>
>i think we did this cover tangent a few years ago, but my vote would
>still be "joey" by concrete blonde...

oh yup... and "caroline" too... yu huh <knodding + grinning foolishly >
a weird one i thought of for amy a bit back, was magnet and steel... it were
a hit when i was in highschool back in 77 or 78 + for the life of me i
cannot *think* of the artist's name... arrghh of course... i *am* old and
that was a long time ago... and....uh... and...errrrm...uh... what was i
talking about?... ah well...
peace all.. kim
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:-) i love this thread!
me... i usually make up a new compilation tape for every road trip i go
on... then i write the date of the tape, and the destination of the trip, on
it. i've done it for years, and now when i play these tapes ( since they
played n' played n' played in my car through every pleasant moment and every
drama on the road ) i am flooded by all sorts of wonderful ( and some not so
wonderful ) nostalgia.
i loved the movie bots and usually the cranberries song "dreams" that was
playing through one of the "out on the highway whizzing past the scenery"
scenes *must* go on every tape. me's "i take you with me" is a big must, as
are the ig's gotm, lotk, chickenman, sys, soy, pot... on + on... can you
tell who my favorite group is??? :-) i also like to throw in a mix of old
favorites, like boston's "more than a feeling", and heart doing "how do i
keep this secret?", "barracuda", "crazy on you" etc etc etc..... um;
nazereth is great for travel; as is aerosmith... ummm... geez; my list is
getting long + boringly self indulgent...
let's just say, as far as an *ig* tune for travel goes; based purely on
applicable content; you gotta go with gotm, southland in the springtime and
chickenman.
peace all, kim
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a big yay!!!!! for bethany!!!!!

yay!!!  sparkie

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i think that phrase came from a post a few days ago about serious vs. "band
wagon" type ig fans?

:) gina

owl moontide wrote:

> in a message dated 98-07-24 12:09:52 edt, strange_fire66@hotmail.com writes:
>
> <<  like that "closer to fine" song or whatever its
>  called ;)... >>
>
> excuse me, where are you from???? :-) that's just too crazy to believe that
> you're serious.......
>

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""if you guys could tell amy and emily to cover any song at a show, what
would
it be?""
oh yes my other favorite past friends. s&g....gone to america or old
friends.....beautiful..
sparkie

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well, this is vligc but i just got off the phone with my mom and my
daughter  mariah and it is my mom's b-day. i got her hooked on ig and
dar and carrie 6 years ago when they took the first 28 cm of her colon
for cancer.she has been thru hell and back plus had 9 kids..me and my
twin no less. she has tapes of every cd i have bought on the girls and
uses them to get up when her pain and meds have her down. then cancer
has gone to the bones, liver and a few spots on the lungs. she buried
her mom 6 years ago from pancreatic cancer that started as colon. then
two days later found out she had colon. anyway this isn't supposed to be
a downer. but rather to tell ya it's a great ladies b-day and that when
i called i could hear 1200 curfew playing in the back ground. she
sounded great today and happy. my sister(s) are taking here to a local
casino in phx. for her b-day.she has never been before. but it made me
feel really good to hear her happy nad the girls in thebackground.

thanks a and e for making my mom's life a bit better.......

sparkie...

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months, i meant months, not years

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mornin' y'alls!

i was at the supermarket yesterday, walking down the ice cream aisle,
and all of a sudden i blurted out "ben & jerry's newport folk
festival".  (the power of advertising is not lost on this walking
commercial.)  anyway, i thought, oh yeah, that's happenning soon,
somewhere way over there on the east coast (i guess newport huh).
then i thought about the ice cream flavors they named for musicians,
like cherry garcia and phish food (phood?) and remembered an interview
where emily...or amy...were talking about newport and they said they
were friends with jerry and ben (or something).  and i thought,
wouldn't it be neat if they named a flavor for the girls?  you know,
indigo swirls or something, with lots of blueberrys.  (mmmmm
blueberries)  i don't know, maybe the girls wouldn't like that, might
smell too commercial for them.  he he

also, i've been meaning to ask this for months, but it has nothing to
do with the girls so i didn't want to just put it out there by itself.
i know there are a bunch of folks on this list in the atlanta area,
so i was wondering,,,have any of you seen chipper bars in your local
grocery store?  they came out last summer.  never made it across the
continent and pond though.  but if any of ya have au unopened package
or a neatly opened wrapper, i'd be glad to get it off your hands,
trade ya for it something or just reimburse ya.  thanks.

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indigo swirls... yum... but there would have to be some strawberries in
there, too!!

jo anne

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who would we talk to to convince a&e or ben & jerry to get this going?!  i
love blueberry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  who cares about
commercialism--blueberries taste good, darn it!!!!!!!!

winona (whose grandmother always told her she was gonna turn into a
blueberry someday like veruca salt on willy wonka)


and i thought,
wouldn't it be neat if they named a flavor for the girls?  you know,
indigo swirls or something, with lots of blueberrys.  (mmmmm
blueberries)  i don't know, maybe the girls wouldn't like that, might
smell too commercial for them.  he he

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on fri, 24 jul 1998, shelley miller wrote:

> i think we did this cover tangent a few years ago, but my vote would
> still be "joey" by concrete blonde...for that matter, i'd give much to
> hear amy sing w. johnette napoletano.
>
oooh yeah, anything with johnette..especially tomorrow wendy...
java

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hi y'all!

hummmmm...great songs for the road?  well, obviously power of 2 and get
out the map, but i really love listening to watershed while i am driving
some distence.  i don't know why, i just think it's a great song to drive
to.  but dar williams' "traveling again" is perrrrrrrrrfect to drive to!

what would i like to hear the girls cover?  well after hearing tjem do
part of "landslide" by fleet/stevie nicks, i'd looooove to hear the whole
song!  also (i think i mentioned this last time we had this thread),
u2's"one".  i'd die to hear amy's passionate voice on that one!  i agree
with erin, too, "the boxer" would be another good pick.

finally on carrie newcomer...she's awesome!  i had heard her on npr last
year at school, and when i got out to berkeley, i saw her live at the
freight and salvage.  it was a really great show, and i am totally turned
on to her music now.

okay, enough pointless rambling!

love,
karen :-)

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wow, magnet and steel!  i dug that song back in the late 70s.  i was a big
fleetwood mac fan and stevie nicks sings backup, i believe.  i can take out my
billboard top 40 book, but i'm guessing that it's walter egan that sings the
song with stevie nicks doing backup.

wow...this just took me back 20 years!


wmntime

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here you go...hey you all, if you don't want me forwarding the sarah
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love, karen

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hello again!

i am happy to report that we have sunshine in vancouver (again) and the
weekend looks promising as sun and hot temperatures have been predicted for
saturday & sunday. it has been a sunny, happy week!

lilith news:
sarah and lilith fair are currently in atlanta, ga at the lakewood
amphitheater.  saturday, july 25th is a day off for all involved and they
will then make their way to the state of florida for two shows: the first
in west palm beach (july 26th) at the coral sky amphitheater, and then on
to orlando (july 27th) at the central florida fairgrounds. wear a hat, put
on sunscreen.. it'll be scorchin'.

if you had a memorable time at one of the shows, tell us about it!  put
something on paper and mail it to us or e mail us about your experience(s).
submissions deemed wonderful/funny/beautiful may be published in the next
newsletter!  please remember to fill out a submissions form (found on the
last page of all newsletters) and send it in.  if you are in need of a
waiver form, we can send one to you!

sarah on the tube:
for those of you in the us with access to vh1 (or you -nudge, nudge -
'satellite people'), they will again be re-broadcasting the'behind the
music' special on lilith fair '97, as well as sarah's performance on
'storytellers'.  both of these specials will be aired again *saturday, july
25th*.  the 'behind the music' special airs at 10pm(est), and the
'storytellers' special airs right after it at 11pm (est).  check your local
listings for further details.

sarah in 'da press:
as i mentioned before, sarah is featured in the august issue of ym (young and
modern...sarah is on the canadian cover) sarah is also featured in the
august issue of harper's bazaar.  check them out!

madrigal press:
in related print news: now you can visit the official web site of madrigal
press, the publication company which brought you the recently released book
by buffy childerhose, 'from lilith to lilith fair'.  have you read this
book?  what did you think of it?  we want to know!  send your reviews to
reviews@madrigalpress.com.  the most interesting ones, good
or bad, will be posted on the new madrigal press web site.  the book is
available at select starbucks locations throughout north america, as well as
in your local bookstore.  if your bookstore doesn't have it, the book is
available in canada from raincoast books, and in the us it's available from
st. martin's press.  it can also be ordered through nettwerk mail order
dept. @ 1-800-764-3472.

madrigal will also release 'eating well on the road with sarah mclachlan', by
sarah's personal chef, jaime laurita in october.  you can check out the
cover artwork, as well as one of the cookie recipes on the web site.  the
site has a few more things to be added in the next couple of weeks, such as
audio clips of interviews with the authors, amongst other things. be sure
to check out the site at: http://www.madrigalpress.com/

your photos:
murmurs is on the lookout for some *stellar* photographs to use in our next
issue of murmurs!  if you have pics that you would like to submit to us,
please do so.  however, only send duplicates as we will not return any
submitted photos.  remember to fill out a waiver form and send it in with
the pictures.  (the pictures can be of you & sarah, sarah on stage, sarah
backstage or other artists performing on stage)  send them to :
murmurs
1650 w. 2nd ave
vancouver, bc v6j 4r3
attn: jennifer


once again thanks for your support!
until next week, adieu!
jennifer
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date:         fri, 24 jul 1998 11:37:03 -0400
reply-to:     lori levy <lori@cc.gatech.edu>
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hi everyone,

i'm looking for 2 tickets to the atlanta show (8/5) if anyone finds they
have extras.  i'm on the news-only list so if you have any to sell, please
e-mail me privately.

thanks!
lori

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date:         fri, 24 jul 1998 16:37:56 -0600
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hi guys..

ok, maybe i'm nuts, but i would love to hear ig cover "you wreck me,
baby" by tom petty... i just think that amy and emily could swap verses
and really rock on this one.

bye bye!
joanne

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date:         sat, 25 jul 1998 08:43:36 +1000
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hey folks,

1) about the "this kid" thread - i don't think this is at all
appropriate.  we're not here to discuss or speculate on one
anothers' characters, maturity levels or private lives, after
all.  we're here to talk about the music of the girls.

2) about the "rumour"... this is something that started on
usenet.  someone posted saying that they'd heard a rumour that
one of the indigo girls had been killed in a boating accident.
well, you can imagine what happened next... instant panic
stations - exactly what would probably have happened here if
the rumour had been posted here in its entirety.  this rumour
is totally unfounded.

okey-doke.  sorry if this didn't make too much sense but it's
way too early on a saturday for me to be up and about...

happy happy,
sherlyn
=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= a+e=ig
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i was dreaming of what i would wear, when i got there..."
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hey y'all,
i haven't posted a message through my aol account in eons, but i am really
wondering if anyone would like to do some trading.  i haven't been a branch
for a trade in a while or anything (busy college kid home for the summer).  if
anyone is interested in making me a branch for a tree or simply trading, i'd
be willing to do both enthusiastically.  i'm really looking for some a+,a, a-
quality tapes, and also looking for tapes with covers of "love the one you're
with," "wish you were here" on them.  thanks for your time, and please e-mail
me back if you are interested preferrably to my school address- kpink@unm.edu.
i am sick of checking aol e-mail and sorting through all of the junk porn
advertisements.
thanks again.  can't wait for the girls to come to the riv!!!
keri

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hey everyone!

i have an extra two day ticket for newport.  i would like to get what i paid for it.  if anyone is interested let me know!

later,
kris
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hey everyone!

i was looking at the calendar today and realized that newport is only two weeks away.  i was wondering if anyone familiar with the area could give me any advice.  i'm staying in warwick, ri which is 30 miles away.  the closest hotel i could find and that was way back in february, geez...  oh well, i can't wait...michelle malone, cheryl wheeler, dar williams, ani, and ig.  is this going to be a perfect weekend or what?

later,
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re. "eating well on the road with sarah mclachlan" book with sarah's chef - i
hope her chef puts a little disclaimer to the effect of "except in columbus".
all of us indigohioans probably won't be buying that book! lol

leslie

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hey everyone--

concrete blonde is awesome(because of johnette)  but, shelley, i want to hear
emily duet with johnette, they would complement each other's voices more, i
think, like on a song like "probably will"  amy would sound so good with the
song too, so let me throw this in here as a duet suggestion--

"they only give you what you're taking,
but lately i've been unfullfilled,
they say i'll throw it all away,
i probably will. . ."  apb concrete blonde

"and that same sun that warms your heart will suck that good earth dry. . ."
--*emily*

peace and love,

summer, the ordinarily positive one, who has felt like ripping someone's head
off all day and hopes that this doesn't sound as bitchy as everything else
that's been issuing forth from her for the past 16 hours or so.

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okay y'all...de-lurking to vent...got my tix for the roxy show on aug
5th...i was disgusted when the operator told me there would not only be a
$4.50 "service charge" but also $2 and something for some crap i can't even
remember...i haven't ordered tickets in a loooong time and this is
ridiculous....even though i woulda hated taking the day off and waiting in
line i wish the girls woulda sold tickets for this thing like they did a
few years ago - only at the roxy....after all, i did meet some good friends
while waiting in those lines.... :)

back to lurking....

kat

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date:         fri, 24 jul 1998 22:32:41 -0400
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are there still any seats available?  and are they general admission or
reserved seating?

sharon

kat wrote:

> okay y'all...de-lurking to vent...got my tix for the roxy show on aug
> 5th...i was disgusted when the operator told me there would not only be a
> $4.50 "service charge" but also $2 and something for some crap i can't even
> remember...i haven't ordered tickets in a loooong time and this is
> ridiculous....even though i woulda hated taking the day off and waiting in
> line i wish the girls woulda sold tickets for this thing like they did a
> few years ago - only at the roxy....after all, i did meet some good friends
> while waiting in those lines.... :)
>
> back to lurking....
>
> kat
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date:         fri, 24 jul 1998 22:42:10 edt
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anyone in the fairfax, va area tomorrow - i'll be at the commonbond cd release
party at the fair lakes hyatt ... it's a free show - check it out
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris

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you know what i'd really love to hear them cover?!  ugggh. :) i'm a
youngster (a mere 21 :), so i don't exactly know the title...this wasn't
my *era.*  but uhhh, that "space cowboy" tune by the steve miller band."
hell yes! can you imagine amy singin' that one?!
"i really love your peaches wanna shake your tree..." heh heh. :)
but, you know...it's funny. every time i hear it, i think of
her..."don't worry, don't worry, i said dontcha worry, mama..." god,
that's *so* her. :)  i'm sure the rest of you saw that vh1 thang where
kd lang covered that one, huh?!  that was pretty derned good too. :)

heh heh...anyone else dreamin' about this one?!

bethany :) (not the one who had the bambino :)


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kim: goddess in her own reality wrote:

> yes of course we've all heard... and it's true!
> armageddon is soon upon us!!!!
> remember the drill; kneel under your desk with your hands clasped
> firmly
> over the backs of your necks....

doesn't that leave one's butt pretty well sticking up in the air and
therefore prob shot at? lol  [ann]

> anyhoo folkies... this whole series of posts + replies, if you'll
> pardon my
> paranoid state:-) appears to have a flavour of "same origin" to it...
> despite the differing addys + sigs... :-) sigh... too much time +
> thought in
> my tupperware kit today...
> peace all... kim
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hey all!

this thread went around the ng a few months back, and it was wonderful!

here are my top 5!

#5) ripple by the grateful dead

#4) any old james taylor... maybe carolina because it is about the south of
mexico.  how about me and my guitar form the cd walking man...

#3)some elton john... like someone saved my life tonigth or your song...yes
your song would be super!

#2) landslide by fletwood mac.  i love that song and it made for ig!!  also
any rumours stuff would be cool.... like songbird.

#1) if i had a boat by lyle lovett.  this song is off the pontiac cd and it is
on of my all time fav songs!  if you have never heard it, you must check it
out!  and knowing htat both ig and lyle will be at the ff..... this could
happen!

so this is my short list!  i am sure given hours to think about this i would
be able to come up with 101 more!

babs: who is not sure what the heck is going on with the ss in nyc!!!

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okay, i'm bored in minnesota---i am lost with out my "book club" of
friends...they all left me for ireland...alas, i am the poor schmuck who still
has to student teach next fall...

i love suggestions from people about which books to read....my brain is in
over drive right now (three books in five days...) and still looking for more
to devour...my dad's suggested "stock options and you" (or something along
those lines) just didn't cut it...

i would love it if any of you could e-mail me your favorite books--you
know--the one/ones that you are absolutely adament that everyone of your
friends read...i would greatly appreciate it!!!!

i just read "stone butch blues" by leslie feinberg--and loved it!!!
recommendation from melissa...so, i guess that is my fave right now...second
in line is "mists of avalon" by marion zimmer bradley...if you haven't read
those--you really should!!!

so, until i recieve some suggestions--i get to read (given to be by my loving
and caring business exec. dad) "working w/o a net: how to survive & thrive in
today's high risk business world..."  for me the history major...oh, and it
was of course recommended by newt gingrich...my favorite little
republican...(please note the sarcasm....)

sorry this was long.  kara's at home on a friday night due to the fact that
her car got mad at her and is refusing to run...
peace,
kara...

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*i* can believe it...the roxy is a pretty darn small venue, and according
to the lady on the ticketmaster phone with me this morning it was
all general admission and standing room only...which this why this little
chickadee won't be seen there!  i can't figure out why in the heck they
would close off the balcony, which has seats and a darn good view...oh
well.  i guess i can wait till they are at a better venue.  :-(

amy


on fri, 24 jul 1998, <erin tripp> wrote:

> as melissa states in her email and amy ray often tells us,
>
> "gotta learn to respect what we dont understand"
>
> thanks for the wise mail melissa.  i am with ya on that one.
>
>
> erin~  who cant believe that the ig august 5th show in atlanta sold out in 20
> mintues!
> *cry*   *whine*
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>>>#2) landslide by fletwood mac.  i love that song and it made for ig!!

ok..i know others from the list musta been at the girls berkeley show last
july, does anyone remember them singing this song????  my girlfriend swears
they did.  i think they did sing part of it, like at the end of one their
songs, but i don't really remember... does anyone have a boot of this show??
we went to both the sat and sunday shows..
anyone, anyone??
let me know, pleeeease cuz now that's gonna drive me crazy!!
~jennifer

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in a message dated 98-07-24 16:48:30 edt, llriney@saintfrancis.com writes:

<< "if you guys could tell amy and emily to cover any song at a show, what
would
it be?"" >>

i would love to hear them cover shakespear's sister.. the song title is
stay... i love that song, and the video rocks... i can just hear amy singing
the part "you better hope and pray that you wake one day..."  i am getting
chills!!!
--kate

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atlanta lilith rocked... and was made even better by guest vocal
performer.....
"the red-head named emily that lives around here" ( per bonnie raitt).

bonnie said that she wanted to jam with emily on guitar!!

emily dropped by and sang with bonnie and sarah on "angel from montgomery"!

kept looking for amy... but no sign of her  :(

got tix for indigo's and friend at the roxy... waht's with tis general
admission crap???  i was first in line at ticket bastards, and thought i'd be
assured good seats... now i have to get in line again at the roxy!!

oh well!!

later!
~~robin

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as one who has spent many a long day on the road with only music for company,
here are a few favorites.....

ig tunes.....watershed....galileo.....chickenman.....shame on you.....

non-ig.....chuck e's in love (rickie lee jones).....rhiannon (fleetwood
mac)....... such a night.....(dr john)......pink bedroom (rosanne
cash).....long cool woman in a black dress (hollies).....i'm a lovin' way
(laura love).....steppin' out (joe jackson).....

makes me wanna put it in gear and go.....

peace,
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ok, so i am trying to make a tape of the new mongrels second album... my cd
player says the cd is 45:09 long... and i have a 90 minute tape... so, the
entire cd should fill an entire side of my tape, correct?  well, the cd ended
and i still had as much as ten minutes left on the tape!!!!  which is wrong...
do i have a short cd or a long tape??  has anyone else noticed this?
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love this thread.....

1)  you can close your eyes (james taylor)

2)  southern accent  (tom petty)

3)  working class hero (john lennon)

4)  holy mother  (eric clapton)

5)  it's all over now, baby blue  (bob dylan)

6)  (don't go back to) rockville  (rem)

fyi, the steve miller song is "the joker"...

btw, my friends in anatara do fabulous versions of land of canaan and jonas
and ezekial....

peace, y'all...
tim

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in a message dated 98-07-25 01:11:24 edt, you write:

<< 1)  you can close your eyes (james taylor) >>


oh i love this one!!  i can just hear emily now.... wow!!!!

good call tim!!!!

babs

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how about f. mac "silver springs" ?
can you just hear amy belting out the line "you'll never get away from the
sound of the woman that loved you" !? :> goosebumps.

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i have said it before and i will say it again...

i would give my left arm, my right arm and any and all appendages to
hear amy ray cover gordon lightfoot's "sundown" on a 12 string guitar.

together?  i think that they would sound so awesome singing "lover's
cross" by jim croce.

if i think of any others (because i say about 40 times a week, "i would
love to hear the ig sing this...") i'll letchy'all know....

peace-
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oh here is another idea...

  what about "souther cross"  by csny?

one of my personal favs!

babs

"beacuse we never failed to fail, it was the easiest thing to do.."  csny


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oh here is another idea...

what about "souther cross"  by csny?

one of my personal favs!

babs

"beacuse we never failed to fail, it was the easiest thing to do.."  csny


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southern cross?? wow, never wouldn've occurred to me, but it's perfect!!!

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peace,
*erica*,
who is still ecstatic that she met ash!!!!!!

"can't you see i've got to live my life the way i feel is right for me,
might not be right for you, but it's right for me.....
i believe this is heaven for no one else but me,
and i'll defend it as long as i can be left here to linger in silence if i
choose to,
would you try to understand?"
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a looong time ago, karen (keroppi on crack) wrote:
>can we pleaaaaaaaase stop talking about satan?!
>i mean, come on.

karen rocks my world.  let me just add to her rant for a sec:

shut up about satan/ hell
shut up about vampires/ blood
shut up about marilyn manson/ other no-talent trendsters

i cannot fathom how on earth you can worship the epitome (it's a big
word, look it up) of evil and yet still claim to feel* any* sort of
connectedness to music which denounces your, ahem, "hobby," talks of
love and goodness, and so blatantly seeks to find the light and meaning
in this world.

something does not compute.  think about it.

jill (why oh yes, i'm annoyed.  i have zero tolerance for this crap.)

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>she needs her ass kicked...
>we are subject to her doofus posts.

heeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

did i mention karen frey rocks my world too?

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amen jill..

love, karen

jill again wrote:

> a looong time ago, karen (keroppi on crack) wrote:
> >can we pleaaaaaaaase stop talking about satan?!
> >i mean, come on.
>
> karen rocks my world.  let me just add to her rant for a sec:
>
> shut up about satan/ hell
> shut up about vampires/ blood
> shut up about marilyn manson/ other no-talent trendsters
>
> i cannot fathom how on earth you can worship the epitome (it's a big
> word, look it up) of evil and yet still claim to feel* any* sort of
> connectedness to music which denounces your, ahem, "hobby," talks of
> love and goodness, and so blatantly seeks to find the light and meaning
> in this world.
>
> something does not compute.  think about it.
>
> jill (why oh yes, i'm annoyed.  i have zero tolerance for this crap.)
>

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anyone here ever listen to jesse colin young?  this goes way back, when
i was a teen.  his music was awesome, don't know whatever happened to
him.  but his tunes were sweet.

i'd love to hear ig do a cover for any of his songs.
jill, you rock my world too, make me smile, keep me going.  i love
reading your posts, and enjoy your fiestyness (still learning how to
spell, be patient with me)

now bethlehem ... i know its a few weeks away yet, butcould we start
planning?  i don't want to wait till the concert is over to scramble to
meet listees.  anyone who's been there before (karen2 :)) could you tell
us a place there to meet before the concert starts, inside the gates?

i love you all, off to get ready for an all day golf marathon.

peace,  karen

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just to remind people - you can still get the infamous blue ep with the
purchase of *any* indigo girls cd (this is something new - you don't just have
to buy sots now) at the tower booth at liith fair.   they are also stocking
lots of daemon artists, such as danielle howle, cooper seay, michelle malone
and terri binion.   something else you completists might want to check out -
they have an import called "women and song" (which is normally only available
in canada).  this has closer to fine (normal cd version).

your friendly lilith tower booth informant,
=)
lisa

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okay here the situtian and no this isnt a flame
1 i dont recall te original letter talking about satan it did talk abotu
vampyres and self mutaltion
but i dont recall satan except from everyoene else who thinks vampyres
ar4e satanic
not all vampyres are evil
(yes they do exist you can choose nto to beelive if you like its up to
you)
eveyrone has thier own interpitation of these songs why should one person
say okay you can state yoru interpitation and then someone else cant
(regardless if you beleive in that interpitation or not)
perhaps the next time i dont agree with someones interpitation of a ig
song i should just fly off the handle at them like everyone else on this
list is doing
i mean i said the wood song dealt with tarot card readigns and trying to
find out about the future ( sometimes i ask to see a closer look skip to
the final chapter of the book to maybe steer us clear of some of the pain
it took to get us where we are ) no one said iw as satanic and i guess
when folks on here talk abotu reincarnation ( ie galilio ) they are taking
satanic stuff to as the catholic church doenst teach it anymoe anbd frowns
on it and says its satanic

so my whole point is quit the damn bitching if you dont agree with her
interpitation fine but dont send 300 messages to the list abotu and and
complain for days about it

thats my 10 cents

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the kid needs her ass kicked yep thats very girls way of theinking isnt it
promote violcence


on fri, 24 jul 1998, jill again wrote:

> >she needs her ass kicked...
> >we are subject to her doofus posts.
>
> heeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
>
> did i mention karen frey rocks my world too?
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woooooooo hoooooooo!
jill rrrrocks!
to the thousands of  jill fan club members, our annual meeting is  scheduled for.....  ooops, if
you're a member you know the date, and if you're not a member, i can't tell you, sorry!
rock on  jilllly!

peace + love,
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anybody tape this and be willing to make me a copy?  please reply
privately and thanks! [ann]

robin fouse wrote:

> atlanta lilith rocked... and was made even better by guest vocal
> performer.....
> "the red-head named emily that lives around here" ( per bonnie raitt).
>
> bonnie said that she wanted to jam with emily on guitar!!
>
> emily dropped by and sang with bonnie and sarah on "angel from
> montgomery"!
>
> kept looking for amy... but no sign of her  :(
> oh well!!
>

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> ~~robin
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alright people... i haven't even bothered to read all the posts, so i
hope i'm not repeating anyone, but i figured it's time we drop this, and
instead of sending this kid into shamefulness, maybe just tell her a few
things about how this list is.
maybe she is disrespecting this list in ways, but she needs to be told
what is and is not appropriate.  any kid who decides to worship satan,
especially a 15-year-old girl who probably hasn't experienced as much as
the rest of the list  is probably doing it for reasons:  popularity,
rebellion, excitement.  remember, she has extremely little information
about the girls and has drawn her judgments about them from that
information.
depending on your point of view, this girl is either disturbed or a
troublemaker.  assume she's got some problems at home or whatnot.  do
you really want to outcast her and feed into her rebellion so she'll go
further out?  none of us hasn't gone through some stage similar to hers.
so, maybe we give her a warning, and if she doesn't stop posting these
things, i believe it is up to sherlyn to decide what to do.  if she's
really a "plant" then that'll take care of it.  but just remember that
if she's a 15-year old she might be looking for the comfort and healing
the girls' music provided me at that same age, when i had been listening
to rap.  whoever she is, she's human.

-lee.

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date:         sat, 25 jul 1998 10:40:53 pdt
reply-to:     jill again <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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>1 i dont recall te original letter talking about satan...
>but i dont recall satan except from everyoene else...
>eveyrone has thier own interpitation of these songs...
>you can state yoru interpitation and then someone else cant...
>quit the damn bitching if you dont agree with her
>interpitation fine but dont send 300 messages to the list abotu and and
>complain for days about it

what we were disagreeing about was not her interpretation of the songs,
i don't think we care about that. (i hope we have better things to
occupy ourselves with than trying to prove that our own subjectivity is
absolutely correct.)

we are sick of the constant ridiculous posts about vampires and satan
and hell and whatever else flows out of little goth chicky's mouth.
there sure were a lot of em.

methinks 2 threads have become entwined.  let's untangle:
thread 1:  blood and fire interps
thread 2 (the bitching): itty bitty goth kiddie

okay, bye bye


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date:         sat, 25 jul 1998 13:47:22 -0400
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did someone say chick?
have we discussed the pros & cons of this word?
just wondering....  luv, chickadee

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>the kid needs her ass kicked yep thats very girls way of theinking isnt
it
>promote violcence

i would hope that i am more a person and less a sheep than to live
according to the ways of women i don't know.

i live according to me.  i thought we all did, but maybe i'm wrong?
(that is not to say that i don't get their message but live for
yourself, eh?)

and the proposed ass-kickage is a joke.  thought that was obvious, but
again maybe i'm wrong.

bye.


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date:         sat, 25 jul 1998 13:54:26 -0400
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here we go again.  i can't stay quiet on this one any longer, because i'm
getting a bit tired at the way things have been going lately on this list.
first of all, while i agree that posts about satanism and vampires are a
bit offensive...this can and should be dealt with off the list.  if, and
yes i have my doubts too, debi is a real 15 year old kid, we should try and
be sensitive to that.  email her privately...inform her that you personally
do not appreciate hearing about her religious beliefs every time she posts
to the list...after all, we don't always talk about ours in great
detail...and maybe let her know that you are suspicious about her posts to
begin with.  i just think that taking this to the list and flaming some kid
over and over and over again in front of the 900 odd people who have to
read this isn't the most indigo thing to do.
  just my opinion,
     sharoan
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date:         sat, 25 jul 1998 14:54:11 -0400
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jilly c rocks my world back!  thanks, hon!

love,
karen :-)

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hey guys, how 'bout another song discussion instead of teh bitch fest we
seem to be cought up in?  i've always wondered what amy was talking about
when she wrote center stage.  i mean, the fame element is in there but it
wasw earily in her career so maybe there's something else?  anybody have
any takes on this one?


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        hmmm... i think the only objection any of us should have had/should
have, in recent posting, is to the "way out there" speculating on amy's
personal life. it all goes completely against the guidelines set out in the
list's faq that each and every one of us receive upon subscribing to this list.
        personal interpretations of ig songs should be a wide open field of
expression for us all, free of flamage. we should be able to say things
like, oh i dunno; "i relate to what a is saying in such + such a song
because for me when i hear these lyrics i feel a is speaking about life love
and cows. i do because every time i fell in love there was a cow nearby,
and, well amy ( it *was* amy ) says "moo" in 1200 curfews, and she just
seems to write about all those feelings i've had in my life experience..."
blather blather blather etc etc etc
        but our interpretation crosses a line when we say things like; "i'm
sure amy is talking about her own experience as a cow mutilating alien when
she sings "shed your skin". i *know* she is because why else would she make
fun of cows by saying "moo" in 1200 curfews??".... of course if a listee
*is* a cow mutilating alien, then he/she should feel free to go unflamed if
he/she posts about how a's lyrics touch on + put him/her in mind of the
feelings surrounding his/her life experience. <grin>
        anyhoo... freedom of speech etc etc ... just play by the faq rules
and we ought to all be happy. remember... if you don't like what one listee
is saying, you do have the freedom to "delete" and ignore further posting.
peace to all... kim

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first off thank you to leslie, cleared up the question i had about landslide
and the girls in berkeley...

second, i was just watching vh1 and they were playing fastball-"the way" and i
love this song!  i was just wondering if anyone out there has their whole cd
and if it's any good.  otherwise i'll just go look for the single.
ps- this song (the way) is a great road trip tune!
~jennifer

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hey y'all-

does anyone know the value of the autographed swamp ophelia vinyls?

mine is black, not green...
please mail privately with info...

thanks-

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in a message dated 7/25/98 2:58:24 pm, smaug@telusplanet.net (kim) wrote:

<<"i'm sure amy is talking about her own experience as a cow mutilating alien
when she sings "shed your skin". i *know* she is because why else would she
make fun of cows by saying "moo" in 1200 curfews??".... >>

no, no, emily is the cow mutilating alien... it is she who says "moo" and
quite eloquently, imho.

sorry... i've been a good grrrl fer months now, just letting y'all get outta
hand.  here's the perfect segue... the "moo" debate.  go fer it.

dee

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hmmmmm.......i thought plants had more intelligence......perhaps a
mushroom????

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subject:      amy compilation question

just wondering about the song heartache central time,
did amy write it? (lifeblood has the lyrics but not who wrote it)
and does it appear on any other boots?

thanks,
sandy
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hey all,
i saw wendy last night (with dede vogt who rocked on bass) at the mint.  she was sooooo good.  she played some old stuff and some new stuff and some new new stuff that isn't on the cd.  it was the last stop on her tour but i highly recommend getting her new cd asleep in the swing....
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folks,

i said this 24 hours ago:
>1) about the "this kid" thread - i don't think this is at all
>appropriate.  we're not here to discuss or speculate on one
>anothers' characters, maturity levels or private lives, after
>all.  we're here to talk about the music of the girls.

i say this now: take it to private email.  this is a completely
inappropriate discussion to be having in front of 700+ people.
i believe the person in question has posted to the list about
satan, vampires etc a total of five times.  there have probably
been well over thirty posts complaining and discussing this
subject since.  think about this:

a) if this person is on the level, how do you think all the
recent wild speculation on her maturity level is going to make
her feel?  and how does it reflect on *our* maturity levels?

or:
b) if this person is a plant intending to stir up this list a
little, i'd say we've well and truly taken the bait.

either way, it's time to end this discussion.  the recent posts
have mostly been the same people posting the same things over
and over again anyhow.

think of this analogy - i don't like a guy at work.  i might
complain about him to my friends over lunch at the cafeteria
(and frequently do), but would i say the same things over a
microphone in front of a general staff meeting?  simple answer:
no.  however much i might want to, it's just not appropriate.

sorry, but i am getting a bit fed up...

sherlyn
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hey y'all,

i just picked up my copy of performing songwriter at a borders in akron. so it
is out in ohio.  btw, it's worth the effort to find it - the photos are great
and it's a lenghty and interesting interview.

leslie

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heh heh. i've got a little i.g. moment to share with you all...:)
i was hangin' out last night with this dude (is that the male equivalent
of chick?!  did i offend anyone?!) i work with.  we had nothin' else ta
do, so we were hangin' out on my roof. :)  there we were, lookin' up at
the stars, just shootin' the crap and i realized that it was just too
blasted quiet. :)
i said, "ya' know, nathan...you're gonna be my indigo girls  guinea
pig." i love doin' that...being in control of the tunes and knowing that
i'm responsible for someone's first i.g. listen. :)  i put in disc 1 of
1200 curfews and he kinda looked at me and said.."you were only *joking*
brother?!"  what in the hell is this?  heh heh....i thought, "damn....
okay, this usually works, so he's bound to come around."  so, we were
smokin' and talkin' and havin' a little hootenanny, when he busts out,
singin'..."the hardest to learn was the least complicated!!!"  ha! so,
then he's all...(and then *she* was all..and then *i* was all....) "no
way?!  i know this?!  *this* is by the indigo girls?!  i *love* them! do
you have that one song..umm...somethin' somethin' somethin'...so we're
okay, we're fine...baby i'm here to stop...etc..."  damn!  so, i wasn't
responsible, but at least i helped him to realize that he has *always*
been in love with the indigo girls...he just never knew it. ;)
i bet he never makes fun of my indigo girls bumper sticker ever again.
:)

bethany :)
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hello! did anyone else go to the daemon showcase today? what a great
show! the bands involved were gentle readers,  3 finger cowboy, 6x, and
catfight. they all played wonderful sets. if anybody ever gets a chance
to see any of them please do. it will be worth it!


michelle

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i went to this native american festival today.  very cool.  i was
looking at this magazine thingy last night that has events for the
weekend etc listed...and i was originally looking for info on the
grassroots music fest going on near ithaca...but i couldnt find it -
but i *did* find info on ulali - and i started reading about them...(3
women) - and then im reading that they have toured w ig...(ok im sure
many of you already know that?  just bear w me pls...?!  *grin*
thanks...).  *so* today...i went to the festival - the native american
festival.  when ulali was singing...i was totally waiting for amy and
emily to be invited to the stage...they would have totally dug
today...yeah.

i bought the *honor* cd...whoa - kickass...im listening to it now...i
dig it.  i bought *ulali* they were amazing...really liked them. they
were at both the grassroots fest in truemanville (ap?) near
ithaca...and then they sped to victor, ny for the festival here...they
were good stuff...

*and* i got all this info on leonard peltier and i sent in letters on
his behalf...good stuff all around today...has anyone ever read the
book in the spirit of crazy horse??  that's next on my reading list...

i feel really good about today - what a *learning* kind of day... i
love when i sort of stumble onto neat stuff...educational
stuff...cool.

hey - take care y'all...
xo
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date:         sat, 25 jul 1998 17:41:38 pdt
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i don't know... i was thinking dancing queen by abba... :)

oh dear. evil me and my silly, twisted humor!  hehehe

peace,
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it is a little to late for the east coasters, but nanci griffith is on
pbs tonight...

check your local listings......pbs can be tricky.  :)

peace-
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ok - i just wanted to know if anyone has heard anything about the
rumor - im not trying to be a gossip queen or anything - it's against
my nature.  but i just got a sick feeling in my stomach after reading
sherlyn's post on the supposed rumor.  pls tell me there is no truth
to it...

you can email me privately if you want.

pls no flames - im just concerned.

take care -
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date:         sat, 25 jul 1998 22:48:44 -0000
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hey what is your e-mail address? i lost it and i wanted to comment
something positive with your post. missy

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hey,
i have been reading a lot lately.. here are my favorite books...

1. into the wild and into thin air- john krakaur
2. even cowgirls get the blues- tom robbins
3. cold mountain- charles frazier
4. any book by annie dillard
5. weetzie bat- francesca lia block ( and all her other books).....
6. the way of the peaceful      warrior-dan millman

        chels...
ps. tell me what books people reccomend.


at 11:52 pm 7/24/1998 edt, you wrote:
>okay, i'm bored in minnesota---i am lost with out my "book club" of
>friends...they all left me for ireland...alas, i am the poor schmuck who
still
>has to student teach next fall...
>
>i love suggestions from people about which books to read....my brain is in
>over drive right now (three books in five days...) and still looking for more
>to devour...my dad's suggested "stock options and you" (or something along
>those lines) just didn't cut it...
>
>i would love it if any of you could e-mail me your favorite books--you
>know--the one/ones that you are absolutely adament that everyone of your
>friends read...i would greatly appreciate it!!!!
>
>i just read "stone butch blues" by leslie feinberg--and loved it!!!
>recommendation from melissa...so, i guess that is my fave right now...second
>in line is "mists of avalon" by marion zimmer bradley...if you haven't read
>those--you really should!!!
>
>so, until i recieve some suggestions--i get to read (given to be by my loving
>and caring business exec. dad) "working w/o a net: how to survive & thrive in
>today's high risk business world..."  for me the history major...oh, and it
>was of course recommended by newt gingrich...my favorite little
>republican...(please note the sarcasm....)
>
>sorry this was long.  kara's at home on a friday night due to the fact that
>her car got mad at her and is refusing to run...
>peace,
>kara...
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hello all!

some of the same things that have been going on here in the list have been
going on in the ng.  to help clear the air, a post was made by max that sopke
about the gf issue and privacy. in it, he refered to an article form atlanta
magazine from 1997.  i have the file on my pc now and am willing to pass it
out to those who want it.  i may be behind the times... but i had never read
it before... wow!

it seems the original focus of the article was lost when it got printed and it
ended up painting a very odd image of amy.  i am not sure how i feel about
this, but reading the article he makes her out to be a prozac poster child!

<<she's tough but prone to what her manager calls "blowups," and she cries a
lot.>>

<< she likens herself to the disenfranchised not because she's gay, but
because at times she sees herself going crazy."the old tribes, the crazy
people, they were the shamans.  it's like people that other people think are,
like, lunatics usually see things alot more clearly.  they don't have the
boundaries.  a lot of my friends,
they even classify me that way sometimes, but not usually.  i keep it
sort of to myself." >>


at the end, max added amy's response that was printed as a letter to the
editor.  this is a must see if you want to understand her feelings more... as
i did.

<<instead, the writer, robert morris, focused on amy ray - tragic and
tempermental motivator of the indigo girls - creating an image to suit his
story, including personal matters taken out of context that he was privy to
only by accidental circumstatances.>>

i now see deeper into this issue and will be happy to send this along if you
email me in private .

babs:  who is feeling much better about this!

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hey,
i was eating at the flying biscuit the other day when guess who walked
by....emily saliers!!! needless to say, me and my friend i was with freaked
out!! she was with 2 other women, and i was happy to notice, she doesn't
drive an expensive car... i figured she was in town for lilith... i wish i
had been there...
how were the other preformers??

at 12:21 am 7/25/1998 edt, you wrote:
>atlanta lilith rocked... and was made even better by guest vocal
>performer.....
>"the red-head named emily that lives around here" ( per bonnie raitt).
>
>bonnie said that she wanted to jam with emily on guitar!!
>
>emily dropped by and sang with bonnie and sarah on "angel from montgomery"!
>
>

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i was at both berkeley shows and they played part of landslide whille
jamming on chickenman and they both laughed at it.  i taped the show and
i love listening to that part
                        lynz

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ok as if we needed proof that i have way too much time on my hands i've
created yet another webring! this time it's for people who trade indigo
girls boots, and boots of people the girls like to jam with!! joan baez,
sarah mclachlan, michelle malone, etc...
if you want to check it out:

http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stadium/4467/indigoring.html

thanks ya'll!!

lamia
"dry the rain inside my head
to hear the things i never said
i will return to you
to be a light beam through a cloud
to laugh at things i'm singing now
i will, i will return to you.."
--k's choice
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i really don't know wahts going through the lilith fair people's
heads...but they *still* think the girls are going to europe!!!

here's the most recent news on the lf webpage:

this was a show that no one was looking forward to (no offense anyone).
it didn't
have to do with anything other than it was the last day for the indigo
girls. in the
two summers that we have got to spend with amy and emily and their band
and
crew, we have grown to admire and respect them so much. they put
everything
into their show each and everyday and the way they work with other
artists is
something that no one else can do in quite the same way. many tears
were shed
on this day. thanks for everything you gave us, amy and emily! we'll be
thinking
about you often and good luck in europe!

i thought the lf people were going to europe but, thats obviously not
what they are saying (if they were it'd say "we'll miss you while we're
in europe").  well, waht they said was nice about the girls...but where
is this europe stuff coming from!!  i thought we checked this out...they
are *not* going to europe...but the lf people persist.
hmmmmmmm...............
carol


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sorry guys and glas..
i am looking for amy... seems we have some mutual friends and interests......
email me privately if you get this..

elizabeth

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can i ask a favor.....?

this is an indigo girls mailing list, correct?...

***so, if you are going to write topics that aren't related to the
indigo girls...then(as said in the faq's)....
please write nigc in the subject heading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i came to check my mail after being gone 2 days...and still haven't
been able to weed through it because i keep opening nigc topics that i
cannot waste my time with. i understand you may want everyone to read
it regardless of it's content...but isn't it fair to let us decide? i
joined this list to keep up with the info on the girls, not someone
elses favorite singers

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i hate putting that in the subject line of my e-mail. i figured people can
tell it isn't ig related by my title. missy

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maybe your titles are clear, but it is much easier to weed through the
nigc topics if they just say nigc. i was speaking mainly of they
unclear one anyways....
>>i hate putting that in the subject line of my e-mail. >>i figured
people can tell it isn't ig related by my >>>title. missy

well, not to be rude, but it is only a form consideration! also, is it
really that hard to type 4 letters???

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howdy all,

        just thought i'd do my part to ease the tension goin' on out there in
listee land.  :)
        i'm throwin' out a new question.(or 2)..you can post to the list or to
me personally, whatever you prefer..  just curious to hear everyone's
thoughts on...
        if you could have only one ig song playing repeatedly in your head, for
the rest of your life, which one would it be?  & why?

        interested and anxious to hear thoughts  :)

        peace & love
        jules (who's just happy to be part of it all)

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billy joel's "when the good die young" would sound great with amy's
heartfelt wales and emily's
soft harmonious solo's.
**************************************************
steph
indigo girls paint and sculpt musical masterpieces

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<< what's the best ig song to play while you're
driving? >>

   i'm going to have to go with chickenman. lots of references to the
driving.. ya know? dead dog on the highway... median cat's are starring at
me... i turn my lights on brighter... etc. anyway, i think any ig song is
great while driving. when i'm driving home from work, usually listening to
1200 curfews the song has to be getting over while i'm pulling in to my drive
way or i'll have to drive around the block a few times until it's finished. =
)
                                                         --katy

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i might have the chance to visit the nashville area between august
14th-august 25th.

*does anyone know about suffragette sessions line-up?*
                        -memphis
                        -nashville
                        -knoxville
                        -?atlanta
                        etc,.....

i want to see the ig this summer if i can. this trip is the only
chance i've got!

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so i'm wandering around the web for the first time in a long time and find my
way into the page of photos from the daughters of the sun... book signing.
nice photos, but i notice a bunch of suspicious looking inflatable plastic
fruit.  for those of you who made it to this event (wasn't it in a church?)...
what are those banana-like objects floating behind amy and emily?  why are they
there?

here's the location if anyone wants to help me figure it out:

http://members.aol.com/memememi/book.html

marivel (who's gonna be seriously embarrassed if she finds out those shiny
bananas are some sort of sacred relic...)

marivel

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in a message dated 98-07-25 20:40:22 edt, sunny wrote:

<< has anyone ever read the book in the spirit of crazy horse?? >>

it's a great book.....extremely enlightening and disturbing......not the
easiest book to read, but well worth the effort.....  lakota woman and ohitika
woman are both worth a look also, if you haven't already read them.....  the
movie thunderheart with val kilmer also deals with the situation on the pine
ridge reservation that buffy sainte-marie refers to in "bury my heart at
wounded knee" (see.....there is ig content....)

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<< what's the best ig song to play while you're
  driving? >>

    i'm going to have to go with chickenman. lots of references to the
driving.. ya know? dead dog on the highway... median cat's are starring at
me... i turn my lights on brighter... etc. anyway, i think any ig song is
great while driving. when i'm driving home from work, usually listening to
1200 curfews the song has to be getting over while i'm pulling in to my drive
way or i'll have to drive around the block a few times until it's finished. =
)
                                                          --katy  >>


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<< what's the best ig song to play while you're
driving? >>

   i'm going to have to go with chickenman. lots of references to the
driving.. ya know? dead dog on the highway... median cat's are starring at
me... i turn my lights on brighter... etc. anyway, i think any ig song is
great while driving. when i'm driving home from work, usually listening to
1200 curfews the song has to be getting over while i'm pulling in to my drive
way or i'll have to drive around the block a few times until it's finished. =
)
                                                         --katy

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   i want to hear them do daydream believer. that'd be so neat. cheer up
sleepy gene... oh what can it mean to a..... sorry. = )
                                                        --katy

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of course i'm not following the faq suggestion to not post till i "get a feel"
of it.  hmm. that's bad, huh?  well anyway.. hi (=   i saw amy at the
supermarket...  actually i saw amy at lilith fair, along with emily, up on
stage, where they're supposed to be, right? hehehe.  and i'm absolutely in
love with them.  (no i didn't *just* "discover" them).  i've had 1200 curfews
for almost a year (proud?).. and refused to buy anything else cause i didn't
think you could possibly top that live stuff...  not true. so i was wrong..
but i was so excited to see them live finally this year (i had front row seats
to their last gig in connecticut, but we had a *sectional* so i figured i can
see them some other time, but i can't go to paris and switzerland again.. poor
morals, i know. )  so anyway.. i'm a huge sarah mclachlan fan, but i paid no
attention to her at either liliths because i was so high from amy and emily's
set that, again, i believed no one could beat it, not even the queen of
lilith.

so.. uh. anyway. i probably just broke every rule i read about-- sorry.  flame
me privately. (=  down to the main point.  i need more live indigo girls..
that's what i need.  i don't have web access, so, if some kind hearted soul
would please send me (privately) the upcoming tour dates in august i would be
ever so grateful.

thanks (=
aly

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in a message dated 98-07-26 02:45:08 edt, marivel@m.imap.itd.umich.edu writes:

<< what are those banana-like objects floating behind amy and emily?  why are
they
there? >>


omg, they do look like floating banana's!  lol    i'd love to know what they
are and why they are there too.

lynn   :-)     <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
tahmehawk's place</a>

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in a message dated 98-07-26 02:54:18 edt, you write:

<< i want to hear them do daydream believer. that'd be so neat. cheer up
sleepy gene... oh what can it mean to a..... sorry. = )
                                                         --katy >>
oh i love it!!!

that would be perfect!!!!

babs

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<<what are those banana-like objects floating behind amy and emily?  why are
they there?>>

hmmm.... i'm seeing banana's too!  perhaps they're there to get people to
sing along to least complicated. ba- na na na na na na na..... ya never know!

                                                   --katy

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hey y'all,

marivel wrote:

>so i'm wandering around the web for the first time in a long time and find
my
>way into the page of photos from the daughters of the sun... book signing.
>nice photos, but i notice a bunch of suspicious looking inflatable plastic
>fruit.  for those of you who made it to this event (wasn't it in a
church?)...
>what are those banana-like objects floating behind amy and emily?  why are
they
>there?


wasn't the chiquita banana company one of the sponsors of that event?  i
thought that they were...that might explain the inflatable fruit.  or,
maybe they were stuck in the picture as one of those 3d magic eye thingees
to mess with us <g>.

peace,
karen

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morning all!

can anyone copy this article and post it?  i'd like to read the whole thing.

thanks,  karen

barbara todd wrote:

> hello all!
>
> some of the same things that have been going on here in the list have been
> going on in the ng.  to help clear the air, a post was made by max that sopke
> about the gf issue and privacy. in it, he refered to an article form atlanta
> magazine from 1997.  i have the file on my pc now and am willing to pass it
> out to those who want it.  i may be behind the times... but i had never read
> it before... wow!
>
> it seems the original focus of the article was lost when it got printed and it
> ended up painting a very odd image of amy.  i am not sure how i feel about
> this, but reading the article he makes her out to be a prozac poster child!
>
> <<she's tough but prone to what her manager calls "blowups," and she cries a
> lot.>>
>
> << she likens herself to the disenfranchised not because she's gay, but
> because at times she sees herself going crazy."the old tribes, the crazy
> people, they were the shamans.  it's like people that other people think are,
> like, lunatics usually see things alot more clearly.  they don't have the
> boundaries.  a lot of my friends,
> they even classify me that way sometimes, but not usually.  i keep it
> sort of to myself." >>
>
> at the end, max added amy's response that was printed as a letter to the
> editor.  this is a must see if you want to understand her feelings more... as
> i did.
>
> <<instead, the writer, robert morris, focused on amy ray - tragic and
> tempermental motivator of the indigo girls - creating an image to suit his
> story, including personal matters taken out of context that he was privy to
> only by accidental circumstatances.>>
>
> i now see deeper into this issue and will be happy to send this along if you
> email me in private .
>

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watershed

i can't say it's really my favorite but it applies to sooooo many things in
life.

"you'll never fly as the crow flies...get used to a country mile."

  ain't that the truth.

rhea of

kim & rhea

do we have to live inside its walls to identify the cage?

ferron

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> from: julie dougherty <jules@mr.net>
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> subject: tossin' out a line  sic
> date: sunday, july 26, 1998 1:15 am
>
> howdy all,
>
>         just thought i'd do my part to ease the tension goin' on out
there in
> listee land.  :)
>         i'm throwin' out a new question.(or 2)..you can post to the list
or to
> me personally, whatever you prefer..  just curious to hear everyone's
> thoughts on...
>         if you could have only one ig song playing repeatedly in your
head, for
> the rest of your life, which one would it be?  & why?
>
>         interested and anxious to hear thoughts  :)
>
>         peace & love
>         jules (who's just happy to be part of it all)
>
> _____
> human diversity makes tolerance more than a virtue;
>   it makes it a requirement for survival----  rene dubos  1981
> ~~~~~
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> is music.
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does anyone have a copy of this boot they would be willing to trade?

kim & rhea

do we have to live inside its walls to identify the cage

ferron

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you gotta read "she's come undone" by wally lamb.  what a terrific
book.  he writes in the first person as a confused fat girl going from
childhood to adulthood, it was excellent.  hard to believe he wasn't a
woman, had to keep checking the back cover to look at his picture. fast
read, highly recommended.

right now i'm reading his second book "i know this much is true" about
identical twins, one is psychotic.  900 pages, i'm 3/4 through it.
another terrific read.

love,  karen

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there's no way i could ever sing only one song!!

maybe a mega-mix of a bunch of ig songs, but no one song!!

~jennifer

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the bananas in the pictures are indeed inflatable chiquita bananas.
apparently there was some kind of play going on in the church.  it was
something with an "island" theme, and those were part of the decorations.

=)
lisa

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my server's bben down for two days so i didn't get to see all this till
this morning...

good books to read: emma donoghue (and especially her book stir fry) is a
really good but maybe the girl who posted this question won't want to read
that cos it's set in dublin :) or alan spence is a wonderful writer. but
nobody's ever heard of him.
um, if i could hear the girls cover any song it'd be "so. central rain" -
rem - and to hear them doing duets it'd be amy and pj harvey doing
anything off of her album rid of me.

sharon

"i could teach her how i learned to dance when the music's ended"
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about the igs performing outside north america this year, amy said no in the
"lesbian news" interview in the july '98 issue:

(excerpted without permission)

.........cut..........

heidi hudson: what is it like touring outside the us?

ar: we used to tour a lot more outside the us, but this year we'll only be
doing canadian dates but no uk, europe or east asia. we love touring outside
the  us, but we have very small cult followings and for those reasons it's a
completely different experience but its really rich because you could easily
play in small places. it takes you back to your beginning of your time here.
it's cool. it's not something that we feel we want to develop a massive
career in the world. it's a lot of ground to cover. i think we just feel
like we just want to play places and enjoy the music for what it is and not
be over-ambitious and conquer the whole world. its a little unrealistic for
us.


..........cut.........

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sunny asked:
><< has anyone ever read the book in the spirit of crazy horse?? >>

tim answered:
>it's a great book.....extremely enlightening and disturbing......not the
>easiest book to read, but well worth the effort.....  lakota woman and
ohitika
>woman are both worth a look also, if you haven't already read them.....  the
>movie thunderheart with val kilmer also deals with the situation

while i agree w/all of tim's calls as far as the enjoyment factor, just
thought i'd throw in that there's quite a bit of controversy w/in native
communities about these books.  the book, in the spirit of crazy horse, and
the movie, thunderheart, are both written by whites, so all the debates
about "who can speak" have come up, especially about matthiesson's text.
mary crow dog's work is contested because some of its content is thought to
be fabricated.  still good reads, though.

it's interesting to see how a & e respect these politics while still trying
to lend their voices/support to indigenous causes.  the number of
indigenous artists included on honor is one way, i imagine.  i also think
it's what a grapples w/when she sings, "hey blue blood your nothing new.
see i come from privilege, too."  her socs in concert often go back to her
own implicit participation in the prejudice she's fighting to end.  very
cool that they're so responsible; i bet few of the other anglo artists on
honor struggle w/the larger implications of their involvement in indigenous
issues.
lisa

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seriously, it's only life afterall."--emily saliers

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here are a few more covers i would love to hear...


"honesty" by billy joel.  amy on lead
"nebraska" by bruce springsteen.  amy on lead
"haven't got time for the pain"  emily on lead, lots of harmony on amy's
part.
"sunshine" by jonathan edwards.  amy on lead.

ok..off to sell clothes to people...

peace-
karrie, who is stll repeatedly telling everyone how excited she is that
ann wilson is going to be in cleveland.

ps.  is someone compliling all of these cover requests into a huge
list??  :)


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hey y'all!!
you know, i've been racking my brains trying to figure out who i'd want
ig to do a duet with.  and i've beent hinking about all the duets i've
heard, but, honestly:
i'd rather just hear them with each other.
it just keeps coming back to that.  they'd sound nice with other people,
but they jsut sound sooo amazing with each other, i... i like it that
way.
anyone with me?

michal
the *purist* fan
who is clearly suffering from a temporary lack of imagination!!!
;-)

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does anyone here know where i can get bass lines for ig songs? what
about guitar?
i am pretty sure this has been covered before so please pardon the
repetition.


michelle

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in a message dated 98-07-26 04:28:17 edt, you write:

<< billy joel's "when the good die young" would sound great with amy's
heartfelt wales and emily's
soft harmonious solo's.
**************************************************
steph
indigo girls paint and sculpt musical masterpieces >>

it sure would!!! both of them are my favorite singers! i love billy joel and
the indigo girls... wouldn't it be kewel if they did a concert together... i
wish! sorry for wasting your time on my stupid dreams.

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>
>can anyone copy this article and post it?  i'd like to read the whole thing.
>

here ya go...:)

sandy
:)


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subject: amy in atlanta mag article, 3/97

by robert c. morris  (reprinted without permission)

amy ray's fiery passions and gale-force determination have been the
impetuses behind turning the ig into a national act.  as the duo
releases
their edgiest album to date, ray's demands on herself are as exacting as
ever.

"damn! damn!" amy ray abruptly stops stumming her guitar and shouts at
the grinding, edgy music blaring from an amp just one inch from her
face.  kneeling in the dark, glass-enclosed recording studio, she lets
her head drop to her chest.  her long brown hair, thrown over her face,
sweeps down and brushes against the ripped knees of her blue jeans as
the
music comes to an abrupt stop.

"let me just do it again," ray insists to emily saliers and her other
colleagues staring in at her from the other side of the glass.

it doesn't matter that its 11 at night, that she has recorded this track
for the ig's new album, tentatively titled map, over a dozen times or
even that she's pushed everyone in the studio, including herself, to the
edge.  saliers, who had told ray at least a dozen times in the last
three
hours, to no avail, that her music sounds "great," "cool," even
"perfect," shakes her head and rolls her eyes.

for a moment the atlanta singer whose fiery passions and gale-force
determination have been the impetuses behind turning the ig into a
national act, selling 7 million albums in less than 8 years, slumps over
her amp in self-doubt.  "i'm not sure i can do it," she intones to the
group watching her through the glass.

but when the producer slides a couple of tiny levers on the giant mixing
board, and the music starts up again, ray comes to life.  "here i sit in
the land of plenty, cryin' about my own virginity..."

still poised with her nose inches from the amp, she begins dipping her
head to the beat until she is writhing with the sound, wildly strumming
her
guitar, lunging toward the amp and reeling back, then singing: "scooter
boys and argentineans, europe shed the blood of the indian..."

"yeah! yeah!" saliers, the other half of the ig, shouts with approval.
in fact, everyone in the studio--the album's co-producer david leonard,
the band's veteran manager, russell carter, the house engineer caram
costanzo, and even carter's 6 yr old son, evan--thinks the song rocks.
everyone, that is, except amy.

"let me just try playing alone," she tells them.  there are several
sighs
in the studio, and a frustrated saliers walks out.

as the music starts up again, ray remains transfixed on the sounds
blaring straight through her: "a chapter in the book on the americas,
you're just another colonial terrorist..."

ray's dark, wavy hair is perpetually in her face, her blue jeans are
almost always torn and she wears the checkered flannel shirts, boots and
baseball caps you'd expect to see on a truck driver.  she's
hot-tempered,
maintains an in-your-face attitude and then, at other times, is prone to
hanging about dark corners, peering off into the stratosphere, brooding,
like a poet.  but she also radiates other qualities--ethereal, soft and
most definitely irresistible; she looks strangers in the eyes and
flashes
huge smiles that light up a room.

"she's a very demanding person," says russell carter, the former
attorney
from decatur who has been the igs manager since 1988.  "she can be very
hard on herself and everyone around her, and then she can be a classic
sweetheart."

ray, 32, began really pushing the group in the mid and late '80s, just
after graduating from emory university.  she relentlessly called clubs,
asking if they had received demo tapes, if the girls could play and when
they would be invited back.  despite irritating some club owners, she
eventually won over almost everyone who said the band wouldn't make it,
including russell carter.  at the time there was a large community of
women folk singers playing in atlanta, including caroline aiken and dede
vogt, and no one except amy ray believed the igs would break through
onto
the national scene.  while saliers provided the perfect complement to
ray
musically, emily wasn't certain things would work out and was
contemplating going on to graduate school.  amy, on the other hand, was
convinced that if they worked hard enough, she would find them a
recording contract.  "amy had this absolute sense that they were going
to
be stars," says carter.  "she was like, 'let me tell you something--i'm
going to be a star.'"

then, in july 1988, everything changed for "the girls," as they are
known
by their devoted fans.  epic records signed them to a major contract,
which began a string of incredible successful albums, starting in 1989
with the grammy-winning ig, the self-titled debut record for epic.  that
same year strange fire was re-released; nomads, indians, saints came in
1990, back on the bus y'all in 1991, rites of passage in 1992, and swamp
ophelia in 1994.  in 1995 the band releases 1,200 curfews, a live double
album, which sold more than 500,000 copies.  they consistently sell out
arenas that seat 15,000 and have even developed a cultlike following
that
refer to themselves as "indigo heads." and at a time when album sales
are
down throughout the industry, the igs are considered one of epic's most
valuable assets.

"the girls have generated millions of dollars for this company," lisa
markowitz, the band's publicist, unabashedly admits.  "they do their own
artwork, choose the themes for their packaging, choose their own
photographers, wear their own clothes. i always say to them, 'you don't
even need epic.  with a good distribution company you could put out your
own record.'"

yet as they prepare to release a new album early next month, amy ray
sometimes seems to be her own worst enemy.  in fact, after years of
struggling to get the igs where they are, ray isn't sure success is such
a good thing.  during a dinner break between recording sessions ray and
saliers honestly discuss their differences about their future.

"if we're getting too much attention, i try to sabotage it a little
bit,"
say ray, raising her eyebrows and flashing her million-dollar smile.
"our poor manager," moans saliers, and they both laugh.

unlike her singing partner of more than a dozen years, and unlike just
about everyone in the music industry, ray insists she does not want a
hit
song.  "they can ruin your career," she says.
almost apologetically, saliers tells ray, "part of me just wonders,
could
we ever havve a hit song?  would that ever happen?"
in a moment of righteous indignation, ray says sharply, "i don't."

part folk singer, part saboteur, part self-described subversive, amy ray
is perpetually searching for who she really wants to be.  "i'm not
satisfied with this being a musician, you know.  i wanna go work on
housing projects or i wanna do this or..."  she pauses, squints her eyes
slightly and cracks a grin.  "i have 10 different careers i wanna have."

amy ray says she doesn't like being rich or famous, and yet she labors
for hours, days and someimes years perfecting a single song.  she says
she doesn't want fans looking to her for answers, but she wants change
the world.  she stands up for the pro-choice movement, environmental
causes, the rights of gay, native americans and mexican revolutionaries,
and yet she says she respects sen. jesse helms ("i respect the fact the
he stands up so strongly for what he feels").  she plays benefit
concerts
for gay causes, has publicly announced that she is a lesbian, and yet
she
thinks the gay movement is too hung up on itself ("there's no excuse for
the gay movement to not stand up and reach out to other disenfranchised
people").  she's tough but prone to what her manager calls "blowups,"
and
she cries a lot.

"she's conflicted," says carter.  "all of these conflicts provide a
tension in her life that leads to creativity.  if she didn't have that,
she'd probably be messed up."

at 2:30 am on a rainy friday morning in little five points a raucous
crowd contnues to pack the star community bar.  word is out: amy ray is
in the house.  she's notorious for making impromptu appearances here,
and all eyes turn to the disheveled local folk heronine as she walks
through the crowd.  she bows her head and shrugs her shoulders, making
her way through the throng of well-wishers patting her on the back.
until 1988 the igs played in little five points regularly, drawing a
large and devoted following of fans.  tonight when ray walks onto the
stage, the crowd cheers.

but they aren't going to hear igs songs, songs of adolesence, lost
innocence and renewed conviction.  rather, ray huddles over her guitar,
picking along to an angst-ridden number by viva la diva, a local band
that ray has promoted on her grass-roots label, daemon records.  after
several minutes she approaches the microphone, exchanging screeches with
the lead singer, cooper seay: "what you get!... what you want!"

ray is intensely committed to what many in the music industry would
consider lost causes.  she pours her own money into unprofitable music
ventures because, she says, "i want to nurture the underground music
scene in atlanta.  part of it is selfish.  i'm driven to do it for some
reason.  i believe in the underground, i really do, because i hope to
return to it."

contributing generously to charity and the underground music scene in
atlanta, according to carter, is a major motivational factor for ray.
"i
push her to go do a promotional activity so she can make some money," he
says, pausing, and then shaking his head in disbelief, "so she can give
it away."

ray's an agitator, a moral conscience, a folk heronine for the '90s.
she's committed to changing the status quo; during several conversations
last winter she meandered from the plight of the zapatista rebels in
mexico to aids victims in atlanta who are dying in poverty to the
polarization of blacks and whites in atlanta who don't live in the same
neighborhoods or socialize together.  during a trip to mexico last
summer
she visited chiapas, the heart of the zapatista revolution, slept in the
mud and spoke to victims of torture and rape, gun-toting revolutionaries
who hope to retake ancestral homelands and reverse provisions in nafta
that, she says, make it impossible for the people to stay on their land.

deep conviction is both what makes her tick and what makes her music so
compelling.  she is a gifted songwriter, whether it's conjuring up
images
of the promised land to describe a failed love and its lonely aftermath
or telling of a railroad car, filled with victims of the holocaust, that
is "bound for glory."  she dedicated a song to the late poet frank
stanford and sings openly about immortality, death and her wish to be "a
nomad, an indian or a saint."  with the new album, "we feel like we're
at
a crossroads," carter sys.  the band had decided to stray further from a
mostly upbeat sound to something looser, edgier and full of drums and
electric guitars.  it is one reason, says carter, there has been "a lot
of tension" making this new album.

ray's abiding need to be faithful to a world of misfits and the
dispossessed goes a long way in explaining why the igs have never been
completely accepted by the music establishment.  their music is
routinely ignored by radio stations that play top 40 hits.  "it's
unfortunate," says the band's publicist, lisa markowitz, 'they have been
ignored completely by mtv."

markowitz is the first to praise the girls' intergrity and automony ("we
do not enforce any kind of artistic regulations on their creativity,"
she
says), but she also says, "they need me to tell them what to wear."
markowitz readily admits that her job promoting the girls would be made
worlds easier if they would just put on "armani suits and miniskirts."
but the fact of the matter is, "we don't have a choice," concedes
markowitz.  amy ray in armani would be like arnold schwarzenegger in
drag.  "it won't happen."

but the very thing that make amy ray unattractive to the mainstream make
her a heroine to another large and devoted segment of american society.
carter says market research shows that while the igs appeal to a large
female, straight and lesbian demographic, some 50% of the audience is
male, and many are in their 40s and 50s, people who "grew up listening
to
joan baez, peter, paul & mary who feel that they [ig] carry on that
tradition.  when i speak of a cult, i also mean older people, people who
think they [ig] are on par with the causes they grew up with."

but ray's success also stems from her roots, of having come from several
generations of atlantans, and the fact that her lyrics, her passion,
even
her need to create, are deeply embedded in the soul of the south.  she
often refers to church spirituals, the blues, jazz and early rock'n'roll
that originated in the south and recounts how she was inspired by those
traditions.  "i'm so southern," she says with a soft atlanta accent.  "i
feel indebted to my southerness, my attachment to the land, my blood
relationships.  the south is lke no other place--there are a lot of bad
legacies and a lot of great legacies.  it's the best of the best and the
worst of the worst all mixed into this past."

and she's a southern woman who happens to be gay and famous and wealthy,
who isn't about to go away or shut up.  "i never worry about going up
against people," says ray.  "basically, i'm a subversive.  i feel like i
can accomplish a whole lot that way.  i don't want to be talked to as an
ig instead of me.  i don't want people trying to get to know me for the
wrong reasons."

and tonight at the star bar, ray is in her own element, amidst those
whom
she trusts the most.  people are screaming, clapping, banging bottles on
tables, a sea of women hugging women, men hugging women.  when the band
comes back onstage, they do not play an encore but rather join the crowd
in one last round of applause for ray, who has returned to the belly of
the packed bar.

those who have seen amy ray perform live are almost always drawn to her
intense emotions, unwavering resonance and the range of her voice.  she
can hit a strangely seedy and tragic contralto and a chirpy,
crystal-clear soprano.  fans often say that even in a large venue,
watching the igs is an intimate experience.  offstage she is equally as
passionate.

emily saliers is sitting in the kitchen of the atlanta recording studio
southern tracks recording, trying to describe her singing partner, who
is
in another room and yelling at somebody over the telephone.  "you're
just
running all over me and not letting me say a damn thing!" ray shouts.

saliers looks in the direction of the muffled shouting and says, "she's
just very driven to accomplish the things that she thinks need to get
done."

saliers says ray has been a "big influence" on her and credits her for
"bringing things to my attention that i wasn't aware of."  while saliers
is known for her complex chord progressions, catchy lyrics and love
songs,
ray is known more for her rough edges, simple, straightforward music and
for songs of loss.  saliers speaks of ray's "vision" and how ray first
came up with her own marketing strategies for the band, such as playing
in rock clubs rather than limiting themselves to the bars adn clubs that
were friendly to folk singers.  "she brings an edge to my music," says
saliers.

suddenly amy appears from behind a closed door and paces up and down the
kitchen.  for the next 30 minutes emily acts as a sounding board for
amy's latest family crisis.  emily attempts to steer amy back to their
music and the crew that awaits them downstairs, but amy grits her teeth
and shakes her head.  because amy feels everything so intensely, it's
hard for her to continue.  she likens herself to the disenfranchised not
because she's gay, but because at times she sees herself going crazy.
"the old tribes, the crazy people, they were the shamans.  it's like
people that other people think are, like, lunatics usually see things a
lot more clearly.  they don't have the boundaries.  a lot of my friends,
they even classify me that way sometimes, but not usually.  i keep it
sort of to myself."

ray is driving down ponce de leon avenue in her toyota 4-runner and has
a
world of trouble on her mind.  the back seat is filled with several bags
of dog food to feed her four mutts, all former strays.  she says she's
been through a tough breakup with a lover, her aunt recently died and
her
sister has tb.  and that's not to mention the brutalized mexican women
she
can't get out of her mind.  it's obvious nothing can stop her from
continuously churning these concerns over and over again in her mind.
nothing can save her big heart from hurting. nothing, that is, save her
music.

"it never really stops for me," she says, staring at a few homeless men
who inhabit the strip.  "i never stop thinking.  it's hard for me to
look
at a lot of the things i've dealt with in my songs. for me it's better
not to think about it and to write from the heart."

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this is what amy had to say about the above article...


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from the may 97 issue of atlanta magazine
reprinted without permission)

"who's that girl?"

        when i agreed to do a series of interviews for an article in
"atlanta" magazine ['strange fire,' march, by robert c. morris], i was
given the distinct impression that the article would focus on my
endeavors outside of the indigo girls. i spent the majority of the
interview sessions discussing in detail the inner workings of my
independent record label, daemon records (a label run by and for the
benefit of local musicians), and the honor the earth campaign - a
campaign that emily [saliers] and i helped to start that funds
indigenous
environmental grassroots activism. these worthy ventures and their
related topics were my intended focus. instead, the writer, robert
morris, focused on amy ray - tragic and tempermental motivator of the
indigo girls - creating an image to suit his story, including personal
matters taken out of context that he was privy to only by accidental
circumstatances. robert skimmed through my activism, listing causes in
an
exploitive way, only using them to paint an exaggerated picture of a
dark
revolutionalry and not providing any real information. i would never
have
agreed to an article on one-half of the indigo girls, dismissing emily
as
this one does. we are, after all, a partnership. if i was as
self-absorbed
and calculated as this story is, i would be patting myself on the back;
instead my only reaction is, 'who cares?....what a waste of space.' you
could have turned some people on to some great local bands or informed
them of important environmental and political resources. the only tragic
characters in this story are the ones you didn't spend any time writing
about."

amy ray
atlanta

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hey all~
     ok, i really need to get myself some boots!!! anyone here that can help
me get started??? i have no idea how to get started and what i need to do so
any help would be appreciated. thanks.
~alyssa

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i was just wondering if anyone has decided on the tee shirt thing? are we all
going to make them or what? (if this subject has already been answered please
don't flame me cuz i am indeed way behind on my mailing list.)
~alyssa

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well i have spent nights with matches and knives
leaning over ledges only two flights up
cutting my heart, burning my soul, with nothing left to hold
nothing left, but blood and fire
you have spent nights thinking of me, missing my arms but you needed to leave
leaving my cuts, leaving my burns, hoping i'd learn
but blood and fire are too much for these restless arms to hold
and my nights of desire, they're calling me here, back to your fold
and i'm calling you, calling you, from ten thousand miles away
won't you wet my fire with your love, babe
i am looking for someone who can take as much as i give
and'll give back as much as i need, y'know and they still have the will to
live
'cause i am intense, i am in need, i am in pain, i am in love
but i feel forsaken, you know like the things i, i gave away
and blood and fire are too much for these restless arms to hold
and my nights of desire, they're calling me here, back to your fold
and i'm calling you, calling you, from ten thousand miles away
won't you wet my fire with your love, babe
i am intense, i'm in need, i'm in pain, i'm in love
i am intense, i am in need, i am in pain, i am in love
i am intense, i am in need, i am in pain, i am in love
and blood and fire are too much for these restless arms to hold
and my nights of desire, they're calling me here, back to your fold
and i'm calling you, calling you, from ten thousand miles away
won't you wet my fire with your love, babe
won't you wet my fire with your love, baby, hold me
wet my fire with your love

i'm a asia man though, i was affected w/this song, no this song,it's
the lyric of this song----"blood and fire".
i love the lyric and i love the song but,i love amy and emily!!!
i have get a few of photo from some web and i have get two snippet of other
song.i don't know if can i get the song ----"blood and fire"?
i have read all email of this list at least four month.i like read all post
of this list.i knew jill,toye,and other folks.at a lot of read from this
list,i thought that i love a large number of person.i sat down and open
my computer when i go home form work.i receive the posts of indigo-girls
mailing list.sometimes i felt that i'm in american and i have a lot of
friend.although you don't know me but i know y'all.
btw...because i came back from beijing so i can't reply to my
friend in this list,sorry.i can understand your means.keep replies.
laoz

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---michal rogson <starr@netvision.net.il> wrote:
> heard, but, honestly:
> i'd rather just hear them with each other.
> it just keeps coming back to that.  they'd sound nice with other
people,
> but they jsut sound sooo amazing with each other, i... i like it that
> way.
> anyone with me?

   ***i'm with you one that one!!!  *smile*
can't help it...although...i *do* love when michelle malone joins them
once in awhile...when they sing wild horses together...whoa...some
good stuff.  but really - i just *love* a&e...together.

take it easy -
xo
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it's hard to improve on perfection....but then again, i love the element that
micharl stipe adds to kid fears.....go figure.....

tim


michal wrote:

<< you know, i've been racking my brains trying to figure out who i'd want
ig to do a duet with.  and i've beent hinking about all the duets i've
heard, but, honestly:
i'd rather just hear them with each other.
it just keeps coming back to that.  they'd sound nice with other people,
but they just sound sooo amazing with each other, i... i like it that way.
anyone with me? >>

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i concur. i've read "she's come undone" three times now....and its amazingly
well written...the story concept is so rather unbelieveable that you have to
think its true...

as for "i know this much is true" i was equally impressed. it took me almost
3 weeks to read it! (only reading at work - was too heavy a book to hold up
in bed!!!!) looking forward to mr lamb's next offering.....

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>you gotta read "she's come undone" by wally lamb.  what a terrific
>book.  he writes in the first person as a confused fat girl going from
>childhood to adulthood, it was excellent.  hard to believe he wasn't a
>woman, had to keep checking the back cover to look at his picture. fast
>read, highly recommended.
>
>right now i'm reading his second book "i know this much is true" about
>identical twins, one is psychotic.  900 pages, i'm 3/4 through it.
>another terrific read.
>
>love,  karen
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hmm..i was reading that article from atlanta magazine and it says:
fans who refer to themselves as indigoheads. do we?? how come i never
heard this? i know about toriphiles, fumblers, etc..but i never knew
that ig fans called themselves indigoheads..i think we could come up
with something more imaginative than that!!!

*hugs*
lamia

"dry the rain inside my head
to hear the things i never said
i will return to you
to be a light beam through a cloud
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does anyone know where i can get the chords for
"it won't take long"?  i know that it is not an ig song, but it  is
covered by them. any leads will help.
thanx!!!!!

j&t

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i am not at my house and want to make a tape of a tape.... i do not have a
stereo with two tape players, but i do have two stereos with one tape deck
each..... is there a way to hook these two up so that i can make the tape?
thanks to all in advance...
leslie

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              i love this discussion! thanks sunny!
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>>lakota woman and ohitika woman are both worth a look also, if you
haven't already read them.....

i agree. :) i studied these as well as a number of others (including
sherman alexie stories!!)  in my native american themes course last
semester.  best class i've ever taken.  mary crow dog (the author of
lakota woman) is so wonderful...she has this strength about her that  i
totally admire...i can't even describe how this book affected me.   this
story is basically a summary of her life; from her involvement in the
american indian movement, to her participation in the seige of the
wounded knee site in the 70's.  she talks of her personal relationship
with annie mae aquash ("my g/f annie mae, talked about uranium, her head
was full of bullets and her body dumped..."etc...), who is also
remembered for her great strength.  if you'll remember, she was killed
and the fbi attempted to make it look like she was just another drunk
indian who had wandered out into the snow and died. they had cut off her
hands to make identification near impossible, though this plan was
unsuccessful.  they had told her that her death would arrive quickly if
she didn't disclose where leonard peltier was hiding -- she knew it was
coming and still did not reveal his location.  she merely asked mary to
tell her children that she had been a good woman...that they could rest
assured that she was someone that they could be proud of... god!  what a
woman!   this book describes the seige in detail and is really very
educational/informative. and if you're interested in knowing more about
the whole leonard peltier situation (what happened, when, where,
why...etc...) then this book is a really good source of info.  my
neighbors knew how crazy i went over all of this reading material and
started buying me bumper stickers and stuff..."aim!!! free leonard
peltier!"  etc...damn. take a class like this, people...you won't regret
it.  changed my life.
anyway...these two books...(both by mary crow dog)..look into them!

here's a little excerpt from the story :)  mary crow dog describing
annie mae's death...
"someday i am going to find out who killed this good, gently tough,
gifted friend of mine who did not deserve to die.  someday i will tell
her daughters that she died for them, died like a warrior.  someday i
will see annie mae.  in a strange way i feel that she died so that i,
and many others, could survive.  that she died because she had made a
secret vow, like a sun dancer who, obedient to his vow, pierces his
flesh and undergoes the pain for all the people so that the people may
live."
god, i love this book. :)

sherman alexie is absolutely amazing.  if you're into native american
reading, i highly recommend the lone ranger and tonto fistfight in
heaven.  it's a wonderful book which concentrates heavily on the trials
and tribulations of life on the reservation.  that's where most of my
nifty little sig quotes have come from.  he never ceases to amaze me.  i
wrote him this long assed "dude, i praise you and all that you are"
letter after reading this book.  he's so down to earth and his reading
is simple, yet his metaphors are so amazing...to the point of genius.
i read an interview with him and he was asked about his writing and
where it comes from.  it's all personal experience...almost every word
of it, and that's what makes it so touching.
i dunno, man.  i can't really say enough, so i'll just stop now. :)

so, yes...there are loads of wonderful native american stories out
there.  other books to look into...

smoke rising -- an anthology of native american stories...
native american testimony -- a book of first hand accounts of indian
issues from those who experienced them.  chapters are grouped into
sections...everything from particular battles to the boarding school
experiences/ bia involvement...etc....damn good stuff.
lame deer --  good story...a lot of wounded knee discussion.

i also have a lot of handouts that i accumulated throughout the
semester...the butchering at wounded knee is an amazing account about
the w.k. story.  if anyone wants it, i'll be more than happy to pass it
along to you. :)
okay.  i'm done now.
bethany ;)

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oranges are not the only fruit ~ winterson
autobiograph of a face ~ grealy
kitchen ~ yoshimoto
the bell jar ~ plath
bone ~ ng
practical magic ~ hoffman
mother night ~ vonnegut
ethan fromme ~ wharton
in the lake of the woods ~ o'brien


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:)

i think it's kinda cute!

erin

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michal wrote:
i'd rather just hear them with each other. they'd sound nice with other
people, but they jsut sound sooo amazing with each other,

i actually agree! with one exception! i love them when michelle malone
sings with them..she's like the 3rd indigo girl!!

lamia

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hkf's,
        i was driving home from work yesterday and rop was in the player.  chickenman
happened to be the song that was playing at the time and i said, "man, i love
this song live!!!".  when we go see the girls play, i can't wait for amy to
burst out with the first line, "i am an only child........"  woohoo!!!  and
the feeling when the crowed go nuts.  sandy garfinkle!!  wooohoo. so awesome!
ok ok i can tell i am going into indigo-withdrawal.  hehe.  so the question
is, what is your favorite song you like to see the girls play live?  sorry if
this thread has been done before.  thought it would be a fun discussion.  =o)~
love,
alison

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in a message dated 98-07-26 12:06:32 edt, saliers_ray@hotmail.com writes:

<< i never knew that ig fans called themselves indigoheads..i think we could
come up with something more imaginative than that!!! >>


indigoheads?!   i have to agree that we could be more imaginative than that!
i live on the west coast and have never heard that name before!   i wonder if
it could be some regional term?   or maybe that reporter talked to a small
local fan club or group of fans that prefer to be called indigoheads?

lynn   :-)     <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
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i know there is an emily sailors decatur, ga one that amy ray could not
make it to. is there another one like amy ray put out called color me gray.
if there is another one would anyone mind coping it for me. i am willing to
trade for it. missy

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sorry to fill the list with this, but i was wondering if todd could e-mail
me. i lost his e-mail address. missy

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sorry i know how to spell sailers name. i forgot to check my typing for
mistakes before i sent it. missy

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no, i didn't intentionally want to start a rumor with this subject
heading.  but i was wondering, the indigo girls have not played in japan
yet, right?  i honestly can't recall hearing about it for the past 7 years
(maybe i am blocking something out), that's how long i have been listening
to ig.  anyway, please e-mail me privately if you know anything.  i am an
east asian studies (japanese!) major and i am bound to end up in japan
very soon, and i'd love to have the chance to see the girls over there (i
know there is nothing planned right now, just in the future...).  thanks a
lot!

love,
karen :-)

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hi all,
i agree with the deep questioning of "in the spirit of crazy horse" and
the movie--even worse, of course, is dances with wolves--i can't believe
the number of oscars that movie won.  well, look at titanic, i guess--it's
the money spent in production that truly counts...  but anyway!  i started
to say, sherman alexie also has amazing poetry and a couple of novels
(though i thought indian killer wasn't very good compared to his other
work).
louise erdrich's work is amazing too (bingo palace, love medicine...and
more).  but you (all) should really really read linda hogan's incredible
novel solar storms.  it's on my top four books of all time list (the other
three being one hundred years of solitude, stone butch blues, and
beloved).  buy it if you can afford to, get it from the library if you
can't.  it's simply brilliant.

susan power (not powter) is good too--grass dancer especially.

more when i think of them.

luv,
suzi

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perhaps the scurrilous morris confused indigo fans with deadheads.

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thought i'd add a suggestion...  last standing woman by winona laduke.  she is
the founder of the indigenous women's network and works closely with the girls
on honor the earth.  those of you who saw an honor the earth show probably
heard her speak.....  she is an incredibly inspiring speaker, writer and
woman.

karen

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in a message dated 7/26/98 6:48:13 pm, indigopo2@aol.com wrote:

>what is your favorite song you like to see the girls play live?

hmmm.....chickenman is a good one, but i've never seen romeo and juliet live.
the song on the recording is just amazing, gives me goosebumps.  if i could
choose any one song to see live, that would be it. hopefully i'll see it live
in the future!


emily:)

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hey, because of the tip off in this list we were fortunate to get
tickets to this show.  i am unfamiliar with the 9:30 club and seating.
does anyone have insight on the place?
thanks,
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okay, so i need assistance once more regarding the newport folk
festival.  blah blah blah...call me irresponsible,  but someone was nice
enough to send me melville info. and i didn't call about it when i
received it.  i'm assuming that the limited camping spots that were left
two weeks ago are now as good as gone.  so...now i'm lookin' at hotels.
uggh...i heard that they're all quite a distance from the festival, but
man...we gotta do what we gotta do.
there will be four of us, and without lodgin', we're goin' down in
flames...we might be knockin' on some bus doors askin' for a nice bed
and a  lift to the next destination (the bethlehem musikfest
baby!)...heh heh...i don't think that's very likely.  so. if you can
help us find a place to sleep the night before and after newport, i'd be
really happy.  security is good.   please e-mail me privately if you can
tell me anything...

bethany :)
procrastinating as usual...


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uhh...make that newport.

me :)

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in a message dated 98-07-26 18:11:51 edt, you write:

<< in a message dated 7/26/98 6:48:13 pm, indigopo2@aol.com wrote:

>what is your favorite song you like to see the girls play live?
  >>but i've never seen romeo and juliet live.

i agree with emily. i totally love this song. there's just something about amy
singing a strong song like romeo and juliet solo that just gives me chills.
not that i don't love emily and her songs and parts, but when amy sings alone,
chills just run up spine and to see her do it live would just put the icing on
the cake because she is already great live. such energy and emotion!  just my
.02.

jessie
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this thread of what do the ig fans call themselves came up a couple of years
ago on the list. some of the ones suggested that i remember were:

fortunate ones
intimate strangers
indigs

and my favorite: chicken people

n.

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i kinda like "indigs" out of this list ~ surely we can come up with
something that fits... [ann]


nancy humphries wrote:

> this thread of what do the ig fans call themselves came up a couple of
> years
> ago on the list. some of the ones suggested that i remember were:
>
> fortunate ones
> intimate strangers
> indigs
>
> and my favorite: chicken people
>
> n.
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didn't we have this discussion before?
maybe i'm just getting old and senile at 21.
:)
ben

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my friend and i call ourselves "indigonians".

i like the way it rolls off the tongue!

~jennifer

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i kinda always think of myself as an *indigoer*

peace + love,
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i like the one use ohioans use. indigohio. missy

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i lied... i'm not an indigoer... i'm a crazed, obsessed, worshipping, adoring, drooling, fanatic
indigo lover who wants to know every intimate detail about their lives.  are we allowed to talk
about their private lives?  i love them soooo much!  they are my goddesses!!! i want to bear their
children!!!   luv, bar

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sorry, but i'm posting again for this one. please don't call ourselves
"indigoheads". why is it that once a band becomes popular they have to attach
the name "heads" to it. it was cool and original for "the grateful dead" but
unoriginal for everything else.
ben


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hey ya'll does anyone know where i can find a new pic of patrice from
sister 7?? one where her hair is like it is now? short and blond? the
only ones i can find are when it was long and brownish! thanks!

*hugs*

lamia


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in a message dated 98-07-26 18:12:03 edt, emistar919@aol.com writes:

<< hmmm.....chickenman is a good one, but i've never seen romeo and juliet
live.
the song on the recording is just amazing, gives me goosebumps.  if i could
choose any one song to see live, that would be it. hopefully i'll see it live
in the future!


emily:)
  >>
i actually have seen r&j live.  they played it at delaware this past year.
the only problem with it, was that like the whole audience was singing along
with amy, so it gave her less freedom, but she did manage to sing it
differently, with a lot of passion and her usual passion-in-motion, not
neccessarily jumping around but kind of like there is so much undercurrent of
passion that she has to move and throw her arms out to the lights to free
herself, you guys know what i mean.  it was definately a highlight :)
--kate

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i really like the intimate strangers one.. i think that really applies to all
of us.  especially this list..
     (wait, i have an oh my gog moment.. as i type this, no joke that's what
song is playing on my comp!!! freaky... well, maybe not so, since most of what
i listen to is ig.. anyway)
   because if you think about it, we all talk so much to each other and share
so many things, but we really don't know each other.  so in that respect we
really are intimate strangers!  and i think it can apply to all indigo girl
fans, we share so much through our love of their music and they give us a
certain understanding about life!  i am sure i am not the only one who has
used an ig song as inspiration to get through whatever i am going through...
so i think we are all intimate strangers.  i like it a lot.
also, i noticed a lot of people now use kind friend, so i thought we should
add that one to the list.

--kate

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howdy all,
        hope everyone's weekend was great!  :)


> i really like the intimate strangers one.. i think that really applies to all
> of us.  especially this list..
        yes yes yes!!!  i agree

> if you think about it, we all talk so much to each other and share
> so many things, but we really don't know each other.  so in that respect we
> really are intimate strangers!  and i think it can apply to all indigo girl
> fans, we share so much through our love of their music and they give us a
> certain understanding about life!
> also, i noticed a lot of people now use kind friend, so i thought we should
> add that one to the list.

        i think one of the mentioned 'fan names' would be great on these id
tshirts that we've been talking about.  anyone else?

peace & love,
jules
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hey...i know this was discussed a year or so ago... i always kinda liked
indigonads myself...but then...i'm wierd.

marilyn

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on sun, 26 jul 1998, benjamin slavin wrote:

> sorry, but i'm posting again for this one. please don't call ourselves
> "indigoheads". why is it that once a band becomes popular they have to attach
> the name "heads" to it. it was cool and original for "the grateful dead" but
> unoriginal for everything else.

   hmmm...does that mean we can call the followers of the-band-which
shall-remain-nameless-but-is-kinda-like-another-band-that-was-really-good
only-not-quite-good-and-some-might-even-say-bad "phish phaces?"
   sorry...i'm kowtowing to the computer screen right now.,..don't hurt
me...

   darius

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and i dont even know why i drove this car down congress avenue
hoping to find you turning on the light..."
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in a message dated 98-07-27 00:19:40 edt, mmacvey@attach.net writes:

<< hey...i know this was discussed a year or so ago... i always kinda liked
indigonads myself...but then...i'm wierd.

marilyn >>

i don't know, sounds a little too much like gonads to me... ; )
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in fact as i think about it more, it sounds like in the gonads....

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intimate strangers gets my vote.  now for the tee shirt recognization
thing.

how about tee shirts that say

intimatestrangers@iamalistee.indigo

k

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> intimate strangers gets my vote.  now for the tee shirt recognization
> thing.
>
> how about tee shirts that say
>
> intimatestrangers@iamalistee.indigo

   i kinda like, although i think we should stick to the three-letter
designation at the end of the address, just for historical accuracy..  ;)

   how about: intimatestrangers@indigo.girls.fan ?

   darius

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yeah, i like that better!!!

nighthawk wrote:

> > intimate strangers gets my vote.  now for the tee shirt recognization
> > thing.
> >
> > how about tee shirts that say
> >
> > intimatestrangers@iamalistee.indigo
>
>    i kinda like, although i think we should stick to the three-letter
> designation at the end of the address, just for historical accuracy..  ;)
>
>    how about: intimatestrangers@indigo.girls.fan ?
>
>    darius

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hey,

        that's a really great t-shirt idea.  i vote for it (if voting is appropriate
at this infantile stage of development.)

>how about tee shirts that say

intimatestrangers@iamalistee.indigo<

summer, who is closer to fine now that she quit her job of 5 years that she
has hated for 4.

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could walk across with 5 steps down. . ."  --my life's inspiration, the poet,
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i thought it would sort of be interesting if we had shirts that said:
intimate strangers
fortunate ones
indigoaddicts

ya know like 4 or 5 of the different things people have said..

*hugs*

lamia

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intimate strangers gets my vote.  now for the tee shirt recognization
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how about tee shirts that say

intimatestrangers@iamalistee.indigo

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hey folks,

here's another article (slightly old, it's dated
july 23 1998) that i found at rocktropolis
(http://www.rocktropolis.com).

-sherlyn
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                                        - dar williams

luscious jackson drummer explains suffragette sessions;
ann wilson added

luscious jackson's drummer kate schellenbach was kind enough
to explain just what the heck will be going on during the
indigo girls' suffragette sessions tour, and tip us off the
to the latest addition to the tour -- heart's ann wilson.

as previously reported, the suffragette sessions tour
(allstar, july 10) will feature a a bunch of female artists --
indigo girls' amy ray and emily saliers, schellenbach, gail
ann dorsey, jane siberry, lourdes perez, lisa germano, mecca
normal's jean smith, come's thalia zedek, and josephine wiggs,
formerly of the breeders -- performing together. shonen knife
are the opening act for the show.

"i'm the drummer for the whole thing," explains schellenbach.
"how it works is, everyone's on a roster, there's 11 musicians
who pick two to three songs they want to do, and you pick
among the people on the list. like, i want josephine to play
stand-up bass and ann wilson to sing backup and so on."

schellenbach says tapes are being sent out to participants,
and then the group has three days of rehearsals planned before
the 12-city tour starts on aug. 19.

"i haven't seen a [tape] yet, though, and since i'm the only
drummer, there's a lot for me to learn," she says. "i saw amy
ray, and she said she wrote a song for the event. there will
probably be some cool covers and some original stuff. josephine
and i are talking of covering a kostars song called 'roll the
dice,' which is not on the record." the record she's talking
about is klassics with a "k" by the luscious jackson side
project that wiggs produced.

"the indigo girls are so into collaborations and are super
musical," adds schellenbach. "every time they play, they have a
billion people coming up onstage with them. it's such a
refreshing attitude to be so open."

-- carrie borzillo

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hi
i just called ticketmaster... they assured me that tickets are ***not***
going on sale today for the chicago shows!!! they still do not have any info
on when they will be on sale.  just to be sure i asked the woman if tickets
ever "suddenly" go on sale without advance notice.  she said no... but i'm
still confused and frustrated because the message on the riviera's answering
machine still says that "tickets for the indigo girls will go on sale
monday, july 27 at ticketmaster..."
i have to go to work now...if anyone finds out any more info please post it!
thanks,
michele

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 09:42:08 -0400
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hkf's,

since i'm an idiot (no need to elaborate)...  does anyone have an extra (or 2)
tix for the ig (8/5) show in atlanta???  i would be forever grateful if
someone could help me out for this show...  <<<silent prayers>>>

thanks,
mike
8-)

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date:         fri, 24 jul 1998 14:21:41 -0400
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> in a message dated 98-07-24 13:44:37 edt, dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu writes:
>
> <<   did you congratulate him on the baby?  ;) >>
>
> apparently(unfortunately), the pregnancy thing was entirely rumor...it seems
> that it was,in fact, food poisoning.....so no, i didn't.

   man, you people are no fun...  ;)
   in fact, it was food poisoning from the catering at our home venue --
deer creek in indy.  and i must say, her voice was more beautiful than
it's ever been that night...

   ::running, ducking, revising travel plans to not go through ohio::

   darius

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 09:48:41 -0400
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hey..

for all you tori fans out there, she will be on letterman on monday
night...

kelly

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date:         fri, 24 jul 1998 14:15:05 -0400
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on fri, 24 jul 1998, owl moontide wrote:

> <<  like that "closer to fine" song or whatever its
>  called ;)... >>
>
> excuse me, where are you from???? :-) that's just too crazy to believe that
> you're serious.......

   omigod!  there's a new indigo girls song called "closer to fine?"  this
is the best news i've heard since the guy from the pizza hut commercials
started a band called the beatles...

   that must be that rumour that everybody's talking about.

   darius

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 09:14:08 -0500
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how can i get some of the early tapes?  particularly "color me grey",
"purple parrot" and "blue food"?  i understand that trading is involved,
but i don't know who to conact.  thanks.


------------------------------------------
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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 09:18:14 -0500
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ok, i would love to see them do this, as long as they do a video just like
the original...amy in polyester, shakin' her tambourine....aah, i can
picture it now.....

winona :-)

<< i want to hear them do daydream believer. that'd be so neat. cheer up
sleepy gene... oh what can it mean to a..... sorry. = )
                                                         --katy >>
oh i love it!!!

that would be perfect!!!!

babs

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 09:25:16 -0500
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one vote here for "intimate strangers".....very appropriate, i think!
(y'all check what kate wrote, i agree....)

but of course, i couldn't help myself from doing a butthead-like
giggle...."huh...huh-huh...they said 'gonads'......huh...."

winona (ashamed that she still likes b&b)

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 09:28:24 -0500
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just to clarify....actually, i thought it was kinda funny....i am not
winona laduke (unfortunately).  oh well, back into relative obscurity....

winona patterson (hoping someone stops calling me "judd")


thought i'd add a suggestion...  last standing woman by winona laduke.  she
is
the founder of the indigenous women's network and works closely with the
girls
on honor the earth.

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 09:35:43 -0500
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another vote for intimate strangers........ya know it will make people
wander and they will want to ask but wont be able to bring themselves to
do it...(if they don't know the girls..)
sparkie....who spent the weekend in over 100 degree heat inside the
house listening to the girls and stained glass cause she is too darn
stubborn to leaveand find cool air cause she knows there wouldn't be any
ig playing....and then she'd be cool but depressed this way she was
hot/sweaty and listening to the girls.....oh that could have been a
great day if the girls were there with me...then hot/sweaty for a damned
good reason.........

sparkie the shameless....

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soooo, ummm....didn't someone boot the boalsburg show?  i thought
someone did (sunny?).  how did it come out?  do we get to hear that
lovely echo again? oh dear
carol

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 08:44:11 -0600
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leo
(july 23-aug 22)
  visiting relatives may be getting under your skin but they really are
doing their best to find another place to live, they are just as on edge
as you are and, to top it off, they are in a strange place. due to this
cause you may have some upsetting moments with the children but just
offer up a prayer of thanksgiving for your blessings and paste that
smile right back on your face; shortly it will even become a real one. a
stitch in time saves nine, or so the saying goes, so take that appliance
to the repair shop before it is hopelessly ruined. your dreams are sort
of fuzzy this week.

much happiness and love and schtuff to the following.....

july 27
i_zarei@net1ef.modares.ac.ir (hideh zareei)

if you would like to be added to the birthday list, please email me at
joanne.cusick@cexp.com, and i will be happy to add you.  send your name,
email addy, and if you like, a quote, and i will be happy to add you!

much love and happiness,

jo anne


"i don't come and go like a pop song you can play incessantly and then
forget once it's gone... you can't write me off and you know you don't
turn me on"
ani difranco- gratitude...

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i don't know but intimate strangers just seems too long (too many
syllables)
dead heads is nice cause it is easy to say and has only two syllables...
(speaking as a somewhat dead head :-) )
also, i just think it sounds kind of corny...but that is just my
opinion...
flame away if you must

-leigh ann

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 16:10:41 utc
reply-to:     kate blackmon <kblackmon@lbs.ac.uk>
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hi all ---

maybe it's the heat wave affecting the united states (i'm wearing a
wool jumper today in london, ha, ha!), but tempers on the list seem
to be a-fraying lately.

part of this might be attributable to the excessive noisiness of the
list lately, due to too many off-topic messages, too much extraneous
text in the messages, etc.  i did a quick parse of the last three
days of digest (friday 24 july - sunday 26 july) and found the
following:  136 messages containing 2654 lines of non-blank text,
composed of:

*  889 lines of new message (33%),
*  815 lines of quoted text (31%),
*  301 lines of signature (11%), and
*  649 lines of message header (25%).

multiply this by the 1000 or people on the list, and wasted bandwidth
due to poor netiquette starts to sound pretty significant.

for the sake of newbies on the list who may not know, and those
others affected by old-timers' disease who have forgotten, here's
some reminders about good mailing-list manners (as in the faq an:d
elsewhere), with some examples:

1) posts to the list should be in some way relevant to the music
   and/or performances of the indigo girls and of interest to the
   majority of the mailing lists.

    about one in ten posts sent in this weekend had less than 10% new
    material -- unless you're a master of the brilliant one-liner,
    don't embarrass yourself by attempting this art form.

2) mark non-indigo girls-related messages "nigc".

    doh!

3) use private email where appropriate.

    for example, if you want to post suck-up messages such as
    "susie-q rocks", take it private, 'cause no one else cares.

4) avoid "me too!" posts

   all i can say is:  "i agree!!!!"

5)  delete all irrelevant text from quoted replies.

    some people have included from 10 to 40 (!) times as much quoted
    text as new message in their post.  quote just the minimum of
    text needed to refer back to the original message.  especially,
    don't quote the bit that says:

    > please do not send excessive amounts of quoted text and/or
    > nigc, long signatures, attachments or flames to the list.

    because it just makes *you* look stupid.

6)  combine multiple responses into a single message.

    some people posted 5 or six times over the weekend.  1000 x 6
    mail messages equals 6000 messages -- are you really sure that
    what you're saying is that brilliant & insightful?

7) keep your signature short.

    excessively long signatures (i.e., those over 4 lines of text
    and/or graphics) are *extremely* boring to read over and over
    again on the digest version of the list.  one lister has a
    16-line long sig., and another is 11 lines long.  don't give
    people receiving the list in digest form rsi from paging through
    dozens of lines of your sig over multiple messages.

8)  most importantly, when in doubt, read the faq:

    indigo girls faq and indigo girls mailing list faq:
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hope this helps some of you, who may have been confused about how to
make friends & influence people on the list.  so, let's see some
improvement out there -- i don't want this to have to go to "naming
and shaming".

thank you.  this message has been brought to you by the letter c and
the london home for the chronically cranky.

kate

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 08:38:23 pdt
reply-to:     "becky b." <indigo_24@hotmail.com>
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subject:      re: sigc: native american readings -- god,
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bethany wrote:
>sherman alexie is absolutely amazing.  if you're into native american
reading, i highly recommend the lone ranger and tonto fistfight in
heaven.  it's a wonderful book which concentrates heavily on the trials
and tribulations of life on the reservation.

i just have to add that yesterday i saw the movie "smoke signals" which
is based on this book by sherman alexie. the movie was absolutely
amazing, powerful, and as the review article says if it does well it
should "help open doors for indian filmmakers and actors". it's an
independent film put out by miramax so i don't know if it's playing
everywhere. i saw it in ohio during a "special engagement." anyway, if
it comes near you definitely go see it. my subject said sigc, didn't it?
well, here's just a little...during the end credits there was a support
honor the earth logo type thingy and ulali had music in the movie (all
my relations) and for all you dar williams' fans her song "road buddy"
was played during one or two scenes! :) alright, that's it. have a great
day! :)
becky :)

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does anyone *in* chicago have any contacts with the riviera to find out
what the deal is with tickets which allegedly go on-sale today -- july
27 (according to the riv)???

tm has *no* info about it. calling long distance several times for no
reason isn't cool.

please help!!!

also -- re: "netiquette reminder" -- kate blackmon brilliantly and
eloquently stated what *many* have been silently praying.

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 10:04:35 -0600
reply-to:     garian arleta vigil <vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu>
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>> the movie thunderheart with val kilmer also deals with the situation on
the pine ridge reservation that buffy sainte-marie refers to in "bury my
heart at wounded knee" (see.....there is ig content....)<<

this is a loose fictionalization of incident at oglala.  i highly
recommend this documentary.

also, i don't know if it has been mentioned yet, but ulali have two songs
in the new film smoke signals.  and john trudell also has a bit part as a
deejay.  you'll remember him from thunderheart, incident at oglala,
honor the earth, etc.
oh, and at the very end of the credits in smoke signals, there's a blurb
for honor the earth.  $$ from the film will be donated.  so go see it!!

-garian

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 09:13:19 pdt
reply-to:     "rose y." <rosilyne@hotmail.com>
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i sent this to the wrong address and it has been a while since boalsburg
but read it anyway
>i know there have been so many lists on this concert already but i have
>to list because it was such a cool even.t well the first band, i'm
>blanking on name, kessler, the woman had a really good voice and i
>thought she was a good opener, then michele malone stepped out and her
>voice blew me away, she can really sing and she was funny.  well then
ig
>come out.  their entire set was really good, i loved all of amy's new
>songs,  especially loved problem child, i'm in love with that song, and
>i had already heard gone again at dickinson and i love that song as
>well.  i was really upset because i wanted to hear tangled up in blue
>with the enitre band, the cello and all but it was okay because i was
at
>an ig concert.  so when their set finished, before the encore, i begin
>to leave, everyone looks at us like we were crazy, like "are you stupid
>they're coming out again." but we continue, they come out and while
>everyone is watching them i am dying because i want to stay but i have
>to leave.  this is the best part!  so we sprint to the car and book it
>out of the parking lot.  at the end of the lot we stop, i get out of
the
>car and run towards the big sign that was at the entrance, it is huge
>and wood and i pull it off the stand and drag it to the car,
>unfortunately it won't fit, my sister gets out of the car and i tell
her
>that it won't fit, she says "i know because it is paper", which made no
>sense whatsoever but we were on an adrenaline rush, so she pulls off
the
>paper sign and we head off towards the sign further down the road.
well
>we circled many times but never found the other one which someone else
>must have taken, but the best part is that since it was my idea to take
>it when i firt saw that sign, i now have a really big sign hanging on
my
>wall that reads, "indigo girls concert 8:00 pm" with a big arrow and
the
>sponsers written at the bottom, it rocks, so that was my awesome
>experience!!! and tussey was gorgeous.
>peace-rose
>
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am i crazy or did i hear that amy won't sing romeo and juliet live
anymore? when i saw her in madison wi last year they said that they were
being delinquent from their entire set list and laughed about it, yet the
entire concert the whole audience was screaming for them to play romeo and
juliet. can anyone tell me the scoop?
katy :)

on sun, 26 jul 1998, emily kropp wrote:

> in a message dated 7/26/98 6:48:13 pm, indigopo2@aol.com wrote:
>
> >what is your favorite song you like to see the girls play live?
>
> hmmm.....chickenman is a good one, but i've never seen romeo and juliet live.
> the song on the recording is just amazing, gives me goosebumps.  if i could
> choose any one song to see live, that would be it. hopefully i'll see it live
> in the future!
>
>
> emily:)
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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 12:37:57 -0400
reply-to:     amy lynn carpenter <carpen48@pilot.msu.edu>
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this "what should we call ourselves as fans" thread is interesting to me.  i do
have to say that i wonder, though, about the name "intimate strangers".  since
in that song, reunion, amy is talking about a highschool reunion she went to
and how everyone pretended they were her best friend although she didnt know
any of them.  i'm just saying that i think the phrase has more negativity
associated with it than positivity in amy's mind.  ??  i'm probably wrong.  ah
well.  i seem to think a really catchy phrase is "oh yes, i'm an indigo girls
fan, are you?"  its more to the point :)

on a more fun note, i got to see both amy and emily on saturday :)  i am new to
atlanta and since it was their first day back from lilith it was pretty cool to
see them around town.  they werent even together.  dag i shoulda bought a
lottery ticket that day!  ;)

take care all
amy c.

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 12:23:42 -0500
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hey--i see i am not alone in my frustration with the riviera theater.  i
have done all i possibly can to find out when the hell these tickets go on
sale.  as of 11:45 am cst ticketmaster has no clue of this show.  as stated
by someone else, if tickets went on sale today, the operators said it would
be in their system.  i've spoken to supervisors and  the whole lot--zilch
on these shows.  they told me that the riviera has to inform them of the
shows before they can be put on sale and that hasn't even been done.  so i
am way confused.  i even went down to the riviera personally to see if i
could ask them myself.  the place gets like a show every 2 months if
they're lucky so the place was deserted--not even a box office.  of course
the message that was saying they go on sale today now says that the voice
mailbox for the riviera theater is full. so now we don't even get a
recording and there is no where else to call to reach anyone involved with
the theater.  i wouldn't go too crazy though.  i haven't seen it advertised
or heard about it on the radio so chances are the first folks to hear about
this show's on sale date will be those reading this list.  so i guess i'll
keep my eyes peeled.  i'll post if anything else comes up.  ciao

greg

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 13:48:35 -0400
reply-to:     karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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i should read down before i post, i know, but here is my take on "intimate
strangers"  your right, i believe, about what amy is singing about at her hs
reunion.  however, take this a step further and think about the term intimate
strangers.  isn't this what we listees are?  we bare our hearts and souls to each
other, along with someother things we shouldn't (ahem, karen listen to yourownself)
and when we meet...well initmate seems appropriate, strangers attached to it even
more so.

i really felt that way especially with alison, who i met at camden " hi alison and
jen"  after we aparently had words with each other before we met in person (i
really don't remember the flame alison, honest)

so, if we all run to our local tee shirt place and have tee shirts made that say
intimate strangers accross the back and front, or intimate on the front and
strangers on the back..at ig events we could easily identify instead of feeling
stupid saying "are you on the list" and getting dumb looks (been there done that)
or worse yet -to jilly-with the longest curliest brown hair-"are you jill?"
nope...(jilly gotta dye your hair green or something sweetie)

just for id purposes at concerts is my suggestion...

love, karen

amy lynn carpenter wrote:

> this "what should we call ourselves as fans" thread is interesting to me.  i do
> have to say that i wonder, though, about the name "intimate strangers".  since
> in that song, reunion, amy is talking about a highschool reunion she went to
> and how everyone pretended they were her best friend although she didnt know
> any of them.  i'm just saying that i think the phrase has more negativity
> associated with it than positivity in amy's mind.  ??  i'm probably wrong.  ah
> well.  i seem to think a really catchy phrase is "oh yes, i'm an indigo girls
> fan, are you?"  its more to the point :)

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 11:06:26 -0700
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trying to keep this short:

ok so i might be a bigrepeaterdork since i haven't gotten through all
my mail but a great book on this thread is _lakota woman_ by mary crow
dog, has a lot of aim history and such. also, in general, paula gunn
allen writes very good books about indian spiritual/religious stuff (a
lot about gender too), try _the sacred hoop_ and they are both
involved in indigenous women's network...

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 14:28:02 -0400
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on mon, 27 jul 1998, karen frey wrote:

> i should read down before i post, i know, but here is my take on "intimate
> strangers"  your right, i believe, about what amy is singing about at her hs
> reunion.

   intimate strangers across the front, with mebbe some cool design, and
intimatestrangers@indigo.girls.fan on the back...
   the gin blossoms mailing list is known as the "strangers you call
friends."  and the line was used with a negative connotation in the song
"hold me down", but all of us really liked the name.  i don't see anything
wrong with it!

   darius

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 14:43:17 edt
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ok, i just responded to a newbie request for boots and said to myself:  hey,
what the heck, i can do this for all the current newbies for maybe one month
and one month only...so i'll take orders beginning now until september 1st
1998 for the following:

1981
tuesday's children (studio)
60 min
wysteria, carolina in my mind, jukie's lament, her town too, house
at pooh corner, danny's song, rock me on the water, father and son,
come down in time, it's too late, you've got a friend, dancing
shoes, long ago and far away, leaving ain't fair, a heart in new
york, tuesday's children

1982
color me grey (amy ray)
60 min
scared to say we're friends, nashville, falling star, carry me
away, anyway i love you, clues to you, always be there, color me
grey, free through eternity, passing time, losing touch, erase the
pain, anyone but myself

1985
blue food - the dugout, decatur, ga
60 min
if you live like that, crazy game, holy city, weakness in me, never
stop, peace song, draw the line, nashville, malachy's, everybody's
waiting (studio), the untitled song, running from the cold, no way
to treat a friend, i wanna be your lover, american tune

1985
the dugout, decatur, ga
60 min
up on the roof, summer-highland falls, the untitled song, rock me
on the water, draw the line, no way to treat a friend, crazy game,
romeo and juliet, love the one you're with, if you live like that,
nashville, fire and rain, drift away, up on the roof

1986
the purple parrot, atlanta, ga
90 min
no way to treat a friend, if you live like that, weakness in me,
love of the common people, house at pooh corner,  danny's song,
holy city, never stop, hammond song, drift away, love the one
you're with, draw the line, girls talk, the water is wide, the
unititled song, everybody's waiting, crazy game, up on the roof,
country road, it's too late, summertime

march 16, 1987
the white dot
atlanta, ga
60min
prince of darkness, cold as ice, make it easier, secure yourself,
up in smoke, pushing the needle too far, summertime, walk away,
from beauty to disaster, land of canaan, mandy, high horse, all
along the watchtower

these six boots are great copies...i have boots that are very low generation
so the sound is good and every new person on the list should have a copy of
these boots.  and do i have to talk you into it?  they are free.  just send me
five 60-min blanks and 1 90-min blank and you got it.  well, you gotta send
enough postage to get the package back to you but do it now before the rates
go up ;)

i'll send more detailed directions when you e-mail me

hunterj1@aol.com

come on down!

jude :)

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 13:07:04 pdt
reply-to:     sarah emily <emily_2@hotmail.com>
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sorry for the nigc - i'll be brief.
i've made a somewhat random decision that i'd like to start listening to
some jazz music and i was wondering if anyone on this list had any
advice on where to start.
thanks - please reply privately,
sarah

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 13:24:17 pdt
reply-to:     shelley miller <strange_fire66@hotmail.com>
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alright, so springsteen was just on the radio, and now i'm running
around the office singing "i'm on fire" under my breath...amy would rock
singing this song...the funny thing is, i always end up singing bits and
pieces of it in the middle of don't give the girl a gun when i'm trying
to play it.

shelley (who doesn't mind a cough so much when it makes her voice
lower).

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 16:38:43 edt
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subject:      ani on diva??  (nigc)
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hey i thought someone on this list sayed that ani was on the front of the new
diva and that there was some cd along with it.  i havent found it.  if someone
has any idea about what im talking about please e-mail me cause im like the
biggest ani fan (as well as indigo girl fan).  thanx soooo much!!!!  sorry for
the nigc.

~chrissy  :)

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 16:17:00 -0500
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okay...a dear soul sent me the songwriter mag.you live in kansas. you
know who you are but like a fool i have lost (admission) your email
addy. sorry.....please contact me  at convience so i can get my chicks
in a row and send you the trade....sparkie the silly..

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 17:14:25 -0500
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subject:      nigc-mn lilith ticket

i have one extra ticket to lilith fair in shakopee, mn.  if anyone is
interested email my privately.  :)

~kendra

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 07:42:40 -0600
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howdy all,
        i'm at work, no credit card...need to know if chicago sst tickets
went on sale, and if so, anyone willing to throw 4 extra tickets on their
card (two tickets, each night)...i'll get the check to you righto!   anyone?
anyone?
        email me at my work address please  julie_dougherty@bc.com

        thanks much for your time
        jules

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 18:17:22 edt
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        just to let you know, ellen's being hilarious here on comedy central... it's
5:19 here and i am on central/standard time.  enjoy!

erin, who is emailing the list from another's name.  ooh, and what another she
is :)

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 18:33:46 -0400
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subject:      pooh needs jokes [nigc]
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long time ig lister and kind friend, pooh <pooh40@mc.net>, needs her
friends to private email her jokes -- "the dirtier the better"!

she asked me to post this for her -- so i am.

she's unsubbed right now and going thru a particularly rough time. she
says you've all come thru for her in the past...

private email all dirty jokes to: <pooh40@mc.net> and make pooh smile!

... now back to the usual nigc... ;)

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 19:26:29 edt
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i was wondering if anyone has the first k's choice album entitled, "the great
subconscious club" and would be willing to make a copy of it for me...i can't
seem to locate it here in jersey.......thanks...jen

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 19:57:11 -0400
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and i replied that i coudl make tapes they said they would send a cdrom i
wrote them but never heard back tihs was in the last week maybe week and
haalf if this is you please write me back

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 19:25:42 -0500
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ciao all

the latest ans. machine message at the riviera says that tickets will go on
sale on saturday through ticketmaster...
hopefully this will be the case!

michele

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karen frey wrote:

> intimate strangers gets my vote.

mine too! [ann]

>  now for the tee shirt recognization
> thing.
>
> how about tee shirts that say
>
> intimatestrangers@iamalistee.indigo
>
> k
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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 21:47:13 edt
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a while back someone posted a list of a bunch of ig related stuff in the
atlanta area...like where the flying bisquitis and where they played etc...a
friend of mine is transferring to emory and wants to sort of go to the ig
haunts...anybody still have that info???  thanks!

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 18:50:24 pdt
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i don't know when she said that last year but i went to an ig show, my
first ever in oct of '97 and i felt so blessed b/c i love that song and
they played it.  at every show i know that people are screaming for that
song, they haven't played it since, i dunno?
peace-rose

>am i crazy or did i hear that amy won't sing romeo and juliet live
>anymore? when i saw her in madison wi last year they said that they
were
>being delinquent from their entire set list and laughed about it, yet
the
>entire concert the whole audience was screaming for them to play romeo
and
>juliet. can anyone tell me the scoop?
>katy :)
>
>on sun, 26 jul 1998, emily kropp wrote:
>
>> in a message dated 7/26/98 6:48:13 pm, indigopo2@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> >what is your favorite song you like to see the girls play live?
>>
>> hmmm.....chickenman is a good one, but i've never seen romeo and
juliet live.
>> the song on the recording is just amazing, gives me goosebumps.  if i
could
>> choose any one song to see live, that would be it. hopefully i'll see
it live
>> in the future!
>>
>>
>> emily:)
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first off, i was listening to the radio about a week or two ago and i
heard this thing on the radio, i was meaning to post it earlier, there
is going to be a new compilation album of the clash, and who else is
featuring a song except for the clash fan amy ray with emily of course,
it's supposed to be out by august or something like that.
the other thing is a request or two, i was wondering if anyone knew
ewhere i sould find the lyrics to problem child and gone again, i heard
pc in boalsburg and i am in love with that song, now if only i knew the
words, the other request is for any good quotes, i am entering my senior
year in high school, and that means yearbooks. my senior page for my
yearbook is due in 5 days, and guess what i have basically nothing.  i
am in need of good yearbook quotes, so if you know of any please e-mail
me, thanks a bunch.
peace-rose

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 22:21:55 edt
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i've got the perfect cover - it even fits in with amy's current sense of
fashion.... "it's a sunshine day" by that grooving brady bunch! amy could play
greg and emily could play marsha and wear one of those groovy maxi dresses.
(no flames please, i'm not trying to start the butch/femme thread up again - i
just am not a fan of amy's striped pants she's been wearing)

leslie
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and why does that article sound like they're going for good??? i just don't
get it!!!!!

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peace,
*erica*

"can't you see i've got to live my life the way i feel is right for me,
might not be right for you, but it's right for me.....
i believe this is heaven for no one else but me,
and i'll defend it as long as i can be left here to linger in silence if i
choose to,
would you try to understand?"
-sarah mclachlan,
"elsewhere"
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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 23:08:58 edt
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wooo!!! after so long! you can all view it now at my homepage!  please excuse
it, i am not very good at it yet...

ok, the addy is this.. but be careful, it's case sensitive.. meaning if it
looks like this, type it just like that... the goindigo part...

http://www.angelfire.com/al/goindigo

have fun!!! and i had better see some guestbook signitures!!!!!1

wooooooo

erin, who is smiling with joy :)

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 23:08:13 -0400
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hkf,
i made this wallpaper a while ago from all the cool pictures y'all have taken at concerts and others i found on the 'net.  it's about 111k.  sorry, i can't give credit where credit's due, but i can't remember who took any of them.
http://www.mhv.net/~kricky/ig.jpg.

kris
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due to my previously mentioned less-than-brilliant experience on ebay, i
have 3 red sys promo single cds.  i would like to trade one for a blue one,
and sell the third for the price i paid.  contact me off-list if you are
interested.

be nice to each other and don't take yourselves or each other too
seriously. tracy's new list rules.  ;-)

tracy

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is tori gonna be on letterman or jay leno?

peace + love,
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ig was at luther college--decorah, iowa (no jokes please...)--this past may
and they played romeo & juliet then...and that's all i know...i was so excited
to hear...and dance around the gym turned concert hall...gotta love those
days...

i would love it if people would share when/where/what song it was...the first
time they ever heard their first ig song---even if it wasn't ig singing
it...curiosity...simple curiosity...

me:  summer after seventh grade--88'--closer to fine...(which will probably be
alot of peoples first song...) i was at summer camp and it was the last
campfire...and i was holdin' hands with this boy, jason, and two of my
counselors got up and sang it...and from then on out, every summer we had our
counselors sing that song to us...for me, it was a special camp song...i
didn't know where it came from, but i loved it...we always said "can you sing
us that closer to fine song...you know the one "the less i seek my source the
more definitive..."  yeah, we didn't know the words,  we were in jr.
high...i'm surprised we even remembered that much of the song...anyway..that
was my first in a nutshell--and it lasted until 10th grade, when i realized
that they were ig, and that they had cds with the song on it...and then i
bought one...and "that was just the beginning...of the rest of my life..."
(e.s.)

peace to y'all.
kara.

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date:         mon, 27 jul 1998 22:57:55 -0500
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subject:      attn: phoenix (or nearby) listees! (lisa's hopping another plane.)

hello phoenix (or nearby) listees!

i'll be in phoenix this coming weekend
all alone on a job interview at honeywell.
they're flying me in friday night or saturday
morning and letting me take the weekend
for sightseeing and checking out the
apartment situation and the surrounding
community.

would anyone have time to help me
get around or maybe meet up for a
cappucino?  or maybe you just have
suggestions on where to go to find
a moderately-priced, nice, cozy
apartment.

any suggestions or help would be
appreciated.  my interview's on
monday, so i have time to investigate
phoenix a bit.  help me if you can.

oh, one more thing....
i've been to phoenix once
last year.  an e-mail friend
took me around tucson and
phoenix and down the salt
river on a tube.  but, i rode
along, so i don't think i could
get around very well.  at any
rate, i'd like to find a gay/
women's bar.  we went to ain't
nobody's bizness.   my gayello pages
says that there is also incognito.  any
other ones?  any suggestions?
anyone?

does anyone know of a good
record store in the area?  sheesh,
listen to me.  you'd think i was
going there more for sightseeing
than i am for the interview.  hee hee.

thanks,
lisa s. in cedar rapids, ia

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 14:32:07 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

once again... please don't quote other peoples' entire
messages when replying to the list.  this applies
especially to users of microsoft outlook/outlook express
and to users of netscape mail/mozilla.

also, can we take some of the nigc (eg the book
discussion) to private email?  thanks.

arbitrary songs of the week... "left me a fool" and "hey
kind friend"... questions, comments, discussion, bring
it on...

oh, and i was thinking that both amy and emily would both
rock on just about any song from the fleetwood mac album
"rumours".  emily especially would shine on "don't stop",
and amy and sara lee could completely rock out on
something like "the chain"...

don't mind me, i'm a little scattered today...

happy happy,
sherlyn
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                                        - the waifs

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 16:26:46 +1200
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hey is's, heh,

cool ig montage jpeg there kris, now if only someone will turn it
into a windows plus! theme....hmmm...

cherrys,
lynda *who will some day get around to building that ig theme*

>>> "kristine a. seigworth" <kricky@mhv.net> 28/july/1998
03:08pm >>>
hkf,
i made this wallpaper a while ago from all the cool pictures y'all
have taken at concerts and others i found on the 'net.  it's about
111k.  sorry, i can't give credit where credit's due, but i can't
remember who took any of them.
http://www.mhv.net/~kricky/ig.jpg.

kris

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 01:04:09 edt
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hi everyone.

cool question!   it was 1992.  i was in my 11th grade creative writing class,
and it was music appreciation day.  we each ran off copies of the lyrics to
give to everyone in class and then played a tape of our chosen song.   my
teacher, ms. charlene hall, chose "closer to fine" .  her lyric sheet read
"words and music by e. saliers".  i loved the song instantly.  "and the best
thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less seriously"
damn!

i was hooked.  she was kind enough (what an understatement) to let me borrow
her tape.  (personally, i never lend out my copies of indigo girls anything)
i listened to closer to fine on my walkman during lunch and between classes
for the next week.  played the song every time i encountered a tape player,
went to sleep at night listening to it.  even at this early stage of indigo-
fanhood, i realized what a calming and purifying effect the music had on me.

eventually, i had memorized all the words to closer, and then to secure
yourself, and then kid fears, and then prince of darkness.  (i didn't let the
tape play past prince of darkness for the longest time, because it was such a
great song, i couldn't get enough of it either.

i've been a very devoted and awe-struck fan ever since.  thanks ms. hall,
thanks emily, thanks amy.

the girls are really a very big part of my life.  it's unreal.  i consider
myself fortunate to have them as -friends-.    they keep me sane so often.

--summer, who is contemplating the paramount love and respect she feels for
the beautiful indigo girls. . .

"and the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less
seriously, it's only life afterall, yeah."   ----words and music by emily
saliers.............

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i saw them in october '97 at the university of vermont in burlington
vermont, and amy did romeo and juliet in the encore. i almost dropped -t hat
was the first ig song i ever heard, and remains one of my faves to date. add
to boot that it was my first concert ever, and an ig concert (even better)
and i was a happy camper.

(ok i guess it wasn't my first concert, but i have a hard time counting
"dirty dancing live in concert" when i was 12 as my first concert
experience......)


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diane gagnon
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auntie em,  hate you, hate kansas,
taking the dog.  dorothy.
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thanks to all you sweetie pies who emailed me about tori...
woooooo hooooooo kisses to y'all....
luv, bar


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"i know i'm small in a way, but i know i'm strong!"
        --emily saliers aka goddess (indigo girls)
"your actions will follow you full circle round."
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"and maybe you can keep me from never being happy,
but you're not gonna stop me from having fun!"
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"i felt like kerokeroppi on crack."  -- me :-)
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hi y'all!

sorry i sent that to the list!  i wanted to correct my typo and i
accidently hit the send command.  anyway, sorry!

ojay, so yesterday i went to tilden park (i had to hitchhike out of there,
but that is a bad story...heheheh!), which is this regional rustic nature
park.  anyway, i entered in some area called the "(something) watershed".
ummmmm...guess what i thought of?!

anyway, one of my housemates thinks that i "have problems" b/c i am
obsessed with ig.  oh well, obsessed and proud!

okay, i need to get some sleep (seeing that my typing skills are at an all
time low now...)

love,
karen :-)

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okay.  stupid question.  anyone need a ride across the midwest?  detroit,
chicago, milwaukee, minneapolis.  anyone?  no catch, no cost.  i just need
company.  think about it.  5 shows in 5 days (possibly 6 if ya wanna add
cleveland on saturday the 22nd).  not bad.  take a vacation.  run away from
home.  it'll be worth it--i *swear*!!!  just gotta buy your tickets, and as of
today all shows are still on sale (except the ever-suspenseful chicago).  oh,
dates are monday august 24 to friday august 28th.

comments...questions...let me know!!!

marivel (ridiculous roadtripper in search of same)

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 17:25:48 +1000
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hi y'all,
someone wrote that they thought amy didn't want to sing r&j anymore but
it's actually blood and fire that she doesn't sing anymore.
i read it in an article recently that i got off lifeblood.  she said
something about it being about a relationship in the past that isn't
relevant to her anymore or something like that.  anyway i know she still
sings r&j because that wonderful woman sang it at their show on the 24
febuary this year here in brisbane, australia.

indigo always,
anne

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hey--for dar williams fans who missed her appearance with pete seeger on
conan obrien--you have a chance to see her again as it is being repeated on
tuesday, july 28 (tomorrow).  i think i offerred to tape it for someone--i
haven't had a lick of free time so this is probably a a better bet if you
really want it on tape.  babye.

gf

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 07:44:38 -0400
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covers:

melissa, by the allman bros. (which they have covered...but i have never
heard it live, and would give my left arm and my lil  sister karrie's left
arm fer it :))

hate the christian right , by team dresch-- it's real screamer, amy could
belt it out, em could wail on the guitar

oh, and

"the kid is hot tonight"-- by loverboy

bwa! kiddin


sus

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 07:46:35 -0400
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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 07:50:50 -0400
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hello big listers,

i am sorry to bother everyone with this, but i have a problem. yeah, i
know, i have several problems.....but this one,  it's called "friends who
don't make it to the post office". yep, i sent a package with a bunch of
tapes to a friend, and she never picked it up, and the bizarro post office
in san fran sent it back to me...but the problem is, i think they probably
sent it back to one of *you* because i didn't change the return address on
padded mailer (i know, i know, it was a dumb thing to do....i'm already
beating myself..... he heh)

so, if any of you who recently sent me a bootleg got a package addressed to
"alisha eisert" in san francisco containing four or five sleater-kinney
boots and a mixtape, could you please email me? i am beyond sad about this
loss and if my tapes have made it to your house i'd be forever grateful to
get them back.

thanks and xxx

sus

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"stranger than an intimate chicken" has always been my favorite ig fan
name....

:)
anna

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arghhh!  i just deleted a request from an australian newbie to my offer...i
think her name was joanne...please send me another email...sorry for the
bandwidth ;)

jude :)

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 08:35:36 -0500
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thanks to everyone who responded to my requests for early tapes.  i've
decided to take jude up on her newbie offer, so no further offers are
necessary.  thanks again!  hope to see some of you in milwaukee :)


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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 07:04:13 -0700
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ok, i'm breaking down after catching up on my old email. i need a boot
of a recent lilith where amy does her new songs and with mm if possible.
i'd be happy to trade for it or love you forever, your choice :).

please send me private email if you have such a boot or would like a
copy of it if i get such a boot,

monique

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at 08:44 am 7/28/98 -0400, anna wrote:
>
>"stranger than an intimate chicken" has always been my favorite ig fan
>name....
i like it, but....
hmmmm... wouldn't that kinda confuse all the fans of gonzo ( of the *old*
muppet show )????.
i'll shut up now before we i get anyone started on that "if the indigo-girls
were on the muppet show, what song would they sing???" thread ( my favorite
was "closer to swine" fer miss piggy....)
peace all kim
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being a relative newbie, i would like to see this thread get unraveled
'cause i guess i missed it the first time!!!
winona (who would love to see amy as animal and emily as janice)


i'll shut up now before we i get anyone started on that "if the
indigo-girls
were on the muppet show, what song would they sing???" thread ( my favorite
was "closer to swine" fer miss piggy....)

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 09:19:02 -0500
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were on the muppet show, what song would they sing???"

being in the sca and loving the pirate time..i would love to see am and
em do the muppet treasure island....little thought going thru this
mind...

sparkie...whos physmark server just crashed.....such fun...must be
tuesday....need a copy o ftuesdays child....

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>i would love it if people would share when/where/what song it was...the
first
>time they ever heard their first ig song---even if it wasn't ig singing
>it...curiosity...simple curiosity...

the indigo girls started off as a big camp thing for me too - i think it
was summer of '89 or '90 i think.  i was going into grade 10 or 11.  the
first song i heard them singing was 'get together' which i already knew
but i totally fell in love with their version.  'closer to fine' was of
course a big camp song too.  i remember the guy who was head of crafts
could play it really well.  took me a couple more years to buy a cd.
sarah

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sorry if i'm slow and everyone had figured it out, but i finally managed
to get a url for the sonicnet articles folks have been sending around.

article about emily's b-day is at:

http://www.sonicnet.com/news/archive/singlestory.jhtml?id=450033

search results for indigo girls (lots of articles on high school
cancellations)

http://www.sonicnet.com/network/search_res.jhtml?query=indigo+girls

enjoy,

monique


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link and open it in a new window, the url in the text field will be
correct instead of sending you to the home page of sonicnet.
mouse right click in the search results page and open frame in a new
window does the same thing for search results. this is in navigator.

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hey everybody-

i am organizing the list meet for agora and this is second call for
those who are interested.

i need to know if
1) you are coming and
2) if you prefer to meet before or after the show.  so far, there has
been a resounding "after" as most of us do not want to lose our place in
line.

please mail me and let me know the details!!  in the next week or so, i
will be devising the plan...  :)  this is open to any and all listees
going to the agora show in cleveland, so my fellow indigohians, make
your presense known!!  no one will bite you at one of these meets, only
bark a little!!  :)

thanks....
peace-
karrie, who just wants to go bake in the sun the rest of the summer and
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>>i would love it if people would share when/where/what song it was...the
>first
>>time they ever heard their first ig song---even if it wasn't ig singing
>>it...curiosity...simple curiosity...

as i mentioned yesterday i think it was - the first was romeo and juliet,
and it must have been the winter of 92-93, my first year of college.  a new
friend introduced ig to a group of us. i had never before heard of them -
but before the winter was out bought rop, my first ig album.  its just
blossomed from there!


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
diane gagnon
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auntie em,  hate you, hate kansas,
taking the dog.  dorothy.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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mine was closer to fine....i was i think a freshman in high school, and i
remember seeing the video on mtv or vh1 (can't remember which, probably
vh1).  at first i just liked their sound, their harmonies, but then i
really started listening to the lyrics.  they really draw you in, don't
they?  nobody else at my high school really liked them, so i didn't really
meet any other indigo girl fans 'til college, and there they were a dime a
dozen!  so that's my story....

winona :-)

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my first time to experience ig was at a medieval event in oklahoma, some
friends had "snuck in " a cassette player with closer to fine(?). by
firelight with medieval guitars and tin flutes, pon whistles and
dumbecks and bodhrans we played indigo girls tunes.......very
exciting...this was 87/88.

sparkie

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my first exposure to the indigo girls was the video for "closer to fine".
it was when that video was new to mtv (1988?).  i went out the next day and
bought the album.  my usual rules for buying an album are 1) i have to
already really like the artist or 2) i have to like at least three songs
from the album.  i made these rules after buying albums based on one song
and then that song turned out to be the only good one.  however, i'm
certainly glad i made an exception!


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just returned from vacation so sorry if this has been covered. anyone
know anything about the ig and friends show at the roxy next week?

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>the first song that i ever heard was least complicated, i heard it on
>the radio, which they never play anymore, and then i heard closer to
>fine, which they also played on the radio, but my real first memory is
>when i went to the record store with my sister, and she bought the
swamp
>ophelia c.d., it was the summer of '94 and i used to hear it through
the
>walls of our adjacent bedrooms and i got to know wood song a lot, loved
>that song, still do.  now i'm a bigger fan than my sister is!!
>peace-rose

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i've got a song suggestion for a new discussion... ( i'm not enjoying
the fact that the most positive, intellectual, and full of igc
discussion this list has seen in a *long* time -- the native american
literature discussion -- has been brought to a halt....i've seen
meaningless bullcrap "hey! i know how to invade amy's privacy!" threads
run a lot longer than this one has. contact me privately if you'd like
to continue the talkin'...and flame privately as well)...hmmph...
putting that aside....
alrighty, so i'm sittin' here listening to early recordings volume 3...
emily's singing play it again sam.  what are your thoughts on this
song?!  i know that the first time i heard it, i wasn't really aware of
when it was written...why...etc....
a few months later i heard another version...she stated that she had
written it during her sophomore year in college during a very low time
(heh heh..that infamous sophomore year depression) in her life.  i think
this song is really beautiful.  her lyrics are young and you can
definitely  hear the difference between now and then...how her writing
has matured, etc..etc...*but* at the same time, every word is poetry
(surprise surprise!!!)...even at that young age.  i find it amazing that
she takes her depression/sadness/thoughts and uses them in such a
positive way...uses them to examine the state of the world around her.
she takes her own unhappiness and hopes that by sharing it, she might
help work for some positive change.  instead of being focused on
herself..."i lost my baby..." "i'm depressed.." "i hate my major..."  "i
think i'm gay...etc..." (not that she thought any of these things at
this particular time...i have no idea.  i'm sharing  my *own* sophomore
year crises..).  she uses these these words...this song, to convey these
emotions..both personal *and* political.  kinda like "up in smoke..."  i
consider that song to be extremely political...yet it strikes a chord in
*my* heart, so i'm assuming it was born out of some personal
pain..etc...

"they took away my garden
to make room for a chemical plant
i feel my country's arteries harden
with the aid of a government grant
we are not a bunch of upstarts
just out looking for cause
we hunger for our justice and not applause
we don't just make peace signs and meditate
we don't take this thing as a joke
we just wanna relate, we're in a pretty bad state
and we don't wanna go up in smoke.."

so, anyway...tangent. :) play it again sam... this song really makes me
sad. :( makes my throat get all tight and yucky...and makes my brain
feel like it's gonna explode cuz there's just too much emotion hangin'
out in there...eew...what do the rest of you think?
awww, hell...let's just talk about both of these...play it again sam,
and up in smoke...two of the really *early* political songs...possibly
more political than a lot of the recent stuff...let's hear it! :) :) :)

bethany :)


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subject:      re: first ig song
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"as i mentioned yesterday i think it was - the first was romeo and juliet,
and it must have been the winter of 92-93, my first year of college.  a new
friend introduced ig to a group of us. i had never before heard of them -
but before the winter was out bought rop, my first ig album.  its just
blossomed from there!"

<<<<<snip>>>>>

whooaaaa!!!  were we in the same room that day???!!!  anyway, my first ig
song, romeo & juliet (i'd do the stars with you... anytime!) was in the fall
of 92, my first year of kolidge, oops - college, and a friend played the
song for me.  my first album was then rop which still remains a constant in
my car tape-player...
(it's amazing that song still brings me back to that time - & so vividly)
8-)

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subject:      nigc: tori on tv part ii

i've noticed a lot of tori fans on the list lately (yay!) so i thought
i'd let everyone know that she will be on regis and kathy lee on thurday
(7/30)

indigo hugs and faerie kisses
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bootlegs, poetry, just plain go there, make me happy,
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play it again sam---the first time i heard this song, i was on the infamous
new york city subway really late at night, and i was falling asleep. i had
just gotten the early recordings tape and i was listening to it on my walkman.
i actually woke up and checked the tape case, cause i was absolutely positive
that i was somehow listening to the girl with the weight of the world in her
hands. i dont listen to that song much, so i dont know the lyrics by heart or
anything--but just the sounds of those two songs, the chord progression or
whatever, seemed really similar in my mind--has anyone else ever thought this?


peace
erica

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 09:03:59 -0700
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to all i owe boots to- please dont give up on me...casey just moved out
(without a days notice) so im dealing with that, trying to find a new
place to live by august 1st, packing, work, and getting over thhis major
life change...i promise i will get them all out, i just need time to
straighten things out..thanks!!!


           sometimes you have to grow apart to grow together

                                always,
                                      jeanette

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 12:13:02 edt
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this grrrl emailed me, and it sounded very important, but i cant mail her
back, say's her address is unknown... said she knew i was from the ig list...
so do any of you know amanda silver???

here's the email address that was sent with her letter..
from:   no.valueset:brown.cs.edu@cs.brown.edu (amanda silver <aks@)

i really want to know what's going on here... any helpers out there???

thanks, erin

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wxrt just announced that the chicago shows do go on sale this saturday
through ticket master. yee haw! (and they're playing ctf now to
commemorate, which is something even if they can't pronounce emily's
last name right).

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 20:22:04 -0700
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hi all!  i kinda deleted the im addies people sent cuz i couldn't figure
out what it was, even though it kept popping up on my screen, but i've
worked it out, and now i'm on.  so could y'all send me your addies?
i'll put you on my list and play with this new toy!

what do i need to tell you - the screen name?  i still have to figure
out how to use this thing.... (i know,  i know, it's not that hard...!!!
;-))

well, this morning's tax law final was killer, and - what's worse -
endless.
so i'm just gonna veg, rent a movie, listen to some ig, do some
email....

you will all be in my thoughts on this night of catatonia...!!

hasta,
michal

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i've had a few requests for the lyrics to these two, so i've decided to
post them to the list...if anyone has guitar tab to either song, please
send it my way.

play it again sam
verse 1
well we read best selling novels
so we can talk between the lines
and we often close our eyes
just to hide the dollar signs
and we're suddenly pretentious
and conform right with the stream
we're born and bred believers
in the american dream

verse2
and we drink our whiskey straight
though we do not like the taste
and we dress in obligations
with a top hat show of haste
and we hinder our reactions
as we measure what we say
until someone starts to cry
and the faces turn away again

chorus
play it again sam, take it slow and easy
sing about the land of the brave
and the home of the free
and there's a man who will tip you
better than you've gotten yet
if you play us a happy song
and help us all forget
play it again sam

verse 3
well we'll donate to our charities
to deduct our future taxes
and we flock to bars for drinking
but one never quite relaxes
and we'll compromise our standards
if it means we'll get attention
and the things we need the most to say
are the things we never mention

chorus

verse 4
i know god is up in heaven
but that's so hard to keep in mind
when you're searching for relief
and hell is all you find
and i know that i'm romantic
and might seem a fool to say
but i'm gonna see a few hands joined
before my dying day

chorus

~~hmmph...some heavy stuff huh?! ;)  i feel it emily! i do!

up in smoke
verse 1
they took away my garden
to make room for a chemical plant
i feel my country's arteries harden
with the aid of a government grant

chorus
we are not a bunch of upstarts
just out lookin' for a cause
we hunger for our justice
and not applause
we don't just make peace signs
and meditate
we don't take this thing as a joke
we just wanna relate
we're in a pretty bad state
and we don't wanna go up in smoke

verse2
my water has got cancer
and the rivers have all dried
i watch my country practice
nuclear suicide

chorus

verse 3
i don't think it's impossible
to see this thing come clean
yeah we're gonna save this poor
world's head from the guillotine

chorus
verse 1
chorus

don't wanna see our children go up in smoke...etc....

so...there you have it.  i listened to play it again sam after i posted
about it this morning and found myself a whining, miserable pile of mush
afterward.  uggh...it never stops.

take care,
bethany :)


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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 14:17:50 -0400
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just wondered if anyone out there has heard if the honor the earth tour was
happening this year.  i keep checking the site and haven't seen any mention of
the 1998 tour as of yet.

email private is a-ok.

thanks - b

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 14:15:42 -0400
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melissa, could you email me please?  i have your tape ready, and your
addy is on my excomputer at work.

to everyone else who sent me blanks..my life has just recently returned
to normal after 4 months of sheer hell.  i am so sorry to all the people
who are patiently waiting for their tapes of the blue/red sys promos.  i
think i got the last dickinson copy out today.

next up..copying all the sys promos..be patient with me, they are
coming..
all should be out in the mail tomorrow.

i love you guys!!

karen

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 14:18:31 edt
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go back.  i fixed it.. the pictures were really big, but i shrunk them, so it
should work now for all of you.

remember, copy it exactly as follows....

http://www.angelfire.com/al/goindigo

have a good one!

erin

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 14:13:14 -0500
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i know this is silly....but thanks to a wonderful listee....jude....i am
listening to st.denis montreal from july 5, 1994 , specifically center
stage, and i have goose bumps going up /down my arms. my cell mate here
at work on the 15th floor asked if i could turn it up. surprise. (i
think i have a convert.).....funny how even the slightest thought of ig
o their music always bring such raw emotion...be it happy, depression,
sadness or elated....they truely get into my mind and soul and under my
skin in a great way.....

just had to share..and say thank you again to jude......sparkie who now
has earbuds permanently attached and will never be surgically
removed....till she is dead and cold.....

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subject:      re: new thread
x-to:         the lost indigo girl <4li6wemberc@vmsb.csd.mu.edu>
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i think it's blood & fire amy won't sing anymore.  she sang r & j a lot live this past year.  i know she sang it in st. louis in november...
toye

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> am i crazy or did i hear that amy won't sing romeo and juliet live
> anymore?

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 14:10:42 -0600
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from:         "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
subject:      re: miss jill fan club
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on sat, 25 jul 1998, barbara corrice wrote:

> woooooooo hoooooooo!
> jill rrrrocks!
> to the thousands of  jill fan club members, our annual meeting is  scheduled for.....  ooops, if
> you're a member you know the date, and if you're not a member, i can't tell you, sorry!
> rock on  jilllly!
>
> peace + love,
> forever a flower child
>     * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ *
> if you're not outraged, then you're not paying attention!
>                 bcorrice@wam.umd.edu
>            http://www.wam.umd.edu/~bcorrice
>    * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ *

hey, wait a minute! you're not even gonna give us non-members a chance to
prove our faithfulness??? but, i even have a jilly quote in my
signature!!! isn't that worth something???

amy m.

p.s. oops, did i send this to the whole list??? so sorry.


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i guess this covers the duet and the covers thread.... i would love to see a&e
sing romeo and juliet with edwin mcain.  (of "i'll be fame- but that's really
not his only song:+)  he also covers that song, and though i've only heard it
once, and it is quite different than the girl's version, the passion is almost
equal... i'd love to hear what would become of it if the two versions were to
become entwined.

love and smiles,
~kristen

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in a message dated 98-07-28 15:21:00 edt, you write:


>  hey everybody-
>
>  i am organizing the list meet for agora and this is second call for
>  those who are interested.
>
>  i need to know if
>  1) you are coming and
>  2) if you prefer to meet before or after the show.  so far, there has
>  been a resounding "after" as most of us do not want to lose our place in
>  line.

hey karrie! :) i am definelty up for meeting afterwards...sounds like fun! i'm
not 21 yet...but i have a shitty id..so that should work if we go to a bar or
whatever. ok..well count me in!
peace & music,
jenn

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for those who are going to the aug. 5 show at the roxy and didn't
already know this...

3 finger cowboy will be one of the special guests. i saw them at the
point saturday. they played a great set!


michelle

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hi,
i ended up with an extra ticket to the atlanta show on aug. 5 and would like company for the drive down and back. anyone in nashville or between nashville and atlanta wanna go? e-mail me privately please.
thanks,
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this is no hoax i know about posting virus warnings to the list but this
is real its from wired online a highly repsected source of net info (they
also have a magazine)
  email hole exposes computers
by chris oakes

4:00am  28.jul.98.pdt
researchers have discovered a hole in microsoft and netscape email
programs that could allow malicious programs to gain access to a computer
and erase files or cause other havoc.
after a few routine actions following the arrival of an email, netscape
and microsoft email users could unwittingly launch trojan horse
applications capable of anything from file destruction to data theft. the
exact nature of a trojan horse depends on the intent of the intruder who
writes the software and sends it.

"a malicious sender via an email attachment can either launch code on the
user's hard drive or potentially access files on the user's machine," said
netscape's chris saito, group product manager for communicator.

unlike previous trojan horses, which are activated when users open
attached files, the newly discovered rogue programs can be activated by
simply receiving attachments.

in netscape's mail client, netscape messenger -- which allows the easiest
launching of any code -- the action required is very simple. "touch the
file menu after you touch the message containing the exploit, and the
exploit will launch," said security expert russ cooper, who moderates the
ntbugtraq mailing list.

rating the threat and potential impact of the software hole, cooper said,
"it's at the top of my list."

the exploit method is slightly different in the two email client programs
that have been tested, microsoft outlook express and messenger. in both,
however, the malicious code is contained in email tags containing the name
of a file attachment.

because these tags -- standard across different email software -- put no
limit on the length of filenames that can be used, the entire code of a
rogue application can be contained there.

more than simple viruses, trojan horse attacks are impressive because of
their potent capabilities. full-fledged, "executable" software programs,
trojan horses can be designed to perform any number of intrusive tasks.
they can erase files and send out email from the computer they've invaded,
for example.

the trojan threat has been diminished by the fact that users have to
consciously find and launch the files after they've come in. the latest
outbreak of the virus changes that.

cooper considers the opening especially dangerous for two reasons: the
common and little-guarded email pathway by which the code can make its
entry and the powerful capabilities it brings with it. "the scope of this
is really undetermined. we don't know all the platforms that are
exploitable."

cooper said triggering the virus in outlook express is more difficult than
in messenger. "you highlight the message and right-click the paperclip
icon. then just running your mouse cursor over the name of an attachment
executes the code." as microsoft describes it, the user "might cause the
client to shut down unexpectedly." it said that only once the client has
crashed, could a "skilled hacker" run arbitrary code in the computer's
memory."

both netscape and microsoft have already begun responding to the bug.
microsoft has a software update, and discusses the problem on its security
information site.

netscape said it will post an update within two weeks. saito said the
delay was due to the time necessary to properly prepare the update. he
said he believed microsoft learned of the vulnerability sooner and was
therefore able to respond more quickly.

"we don't want to reveal too much information. we've been able to
reproduce the bug in a lab environment and can tell users how to protect
themselves," saito said. that information, he said, would be posted in the
form of a web page.

protection boils down to this: "if you open a message from an unknown
sender, you do not want to access the file menu," saito said. the message
should be deleted and the mail software exited by means of the windows
close box, marked by an x in the application window's upper-right-hand
corner.

asked to rate the danger, saito was reserved, citing a desire to keep
potential exploiters as uninformed as possible.

researchers at a finnish university discovered the bug while doing
security testing of windows nt. the researchers were looking for
"overflows" in the microsoft operating system, areas of software
applications that can be used to insert data to run on a user's computer
without the user's knowledge. such an overflow is alluring for its
potential access to important network or computer resources.

cooper is worried by the fact that the vulnerable software is already
installed on many machines or on its way, including microsoft's windows 98
operating system. this means it is likely to remain in use for years to
come.

cooper is advocating that the companies begin software recall programs to
recollect vulnerable software. if they aren't willing to do that, he said,
companies should at least spend more resources looking for exploits like
this one. all it took the researchers in finland was a goal and 30 minutes
of their time.

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 20:20:39 edt
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just got back from borders bookstore...the indigo girls are featured on the
5th anniversary issue of "performing songwriter" magazine. it's the
july/august issue. there's some pretty cool pics and a lengthy interview
inside. worth checking out. :>

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 21:14:08 edt
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my must reads...

how to read an unwritten language by phillip graham... a book about stories...
how they can alter and influence our lives... one of those books that is so
layered and rich that describing it is a near impossible chore.

hard laughter- anne lamott

first you have to row a little boat- richard bode... an inspirational book
about life that uses sailing as a metapor... you really have to be in the mood
for it, but it's a treasure.

a keeper of sheep- william carpenter... about a girl on cape cod who is
challenged by both her family and community when she begins caring for a man
with aids, and the overbearing burden of love... "and where were the stone
monuments carrying the names of those who had been raped... or the names of
aids victims like arnold and god knows maybe joshua in time and myself and all
the people we have yet to be with?  they are the invisible statues in the non
existant parks that allow us to keep going for another generation so that
perhaps we can find out what we are supposed to be..."

anything by nick bantock... he writes the griffin and sabine books, which are
amazing, but his novels are just as beautiful and interesting.  the venitian's
wife is my favorite.

and, if you want to play one if those awesome horoscope-like mind games, try
the cube.  (i don't know off my head who wrote it, if you want to know email
me).  it works!!!  it's so cool!

back to previously scheduled igc....

love and smiles,
~kristen

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 21:26:17 edt
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sorry about this post i sent earlier! i'm such a doofus and sent it to the
whole list! just ignore it..sorry!
peace & music,
jenn

> in a message dated 98-07-28 15:21:00 edt, i wrote:
>
>
> >  hey everybody-
> >
> >  i am organizing the list meet for agora and this is second call for
> >  those who are interested.
> >
> >  i need to know if
> >  1) you are coming and
> >  2) if you prefer to meet before or after the show.  so far, there has
> >  been a resounding "after" as most of us do not want to lose our place
in
> >  line.
>
> hey karrie! :) i am definelty up for meeting afterwards...sounds like
fun! i'm

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 21:46:46 edt
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i suppose the first ig song i ever heard was closer to fine, but there's not
one distinct thing i remember about hearing the song. i remember hearing a lot
about ig from my 7th grade science partner, but i never actually heard the
girls sing.  it's my 10th grade lit teacher i have to thank for my addiction
to the girls.  he had a tradition- after every big test he would either read
us kiddie books (yeah doctor suess!) or he and another teacher would bring
their guitars and sing.  well, the first time they did this they passed out
packets with the lyrics to the songs so we could do ap-lit-like work and
analyze the songs...  as soon as i read the words to ghost, love's recovery,
and galileo i was so interested... and as soon as i heard him sing them,  i
was hooked.  i went out and bought 1200 curfew b/c it had those 3 songs on it,
and the rest is history...  now whenever i see that teacher with his guitar in
school, i make sure to be near his room when the music starts:+)

love and smiles,
~kristen

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date:         wed, 29 jul 1998 11:58:29 +1000
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hey folks,

i found the article below at mtv news (http://www.mtv.com)...

-sherlyn

===
rage's de la rocha, x's exene, indigo's amy ray, novoselic
sign on for lecture tour

rage against the machine frontman zack de la rocha, dead
kennedy jello biafra, indigo girl amy ray, x's exene cervenka,
and krist novoselic of nirvana and sweet 75 will be among the
artists and activists participating in a college lecture tour
this fall.

actor woody harrelson and mtv vj kennedy will also be on board
for the spitfire tour, which plans to visit college campuses
this fall for a six-stop run with novoselic as moderator. tour
organizers are hoping to launch the tour in mid-october, and
so far have solidified one date at the university of florida
on october 27.

the musicians, actors, and activists have agreed to speak at
one or more of the tour's six dates, with four speakers turning
up at each date. each speaker will be given 15 minutes to speak
freely followed by a one-hour question and answer session.

admission will be free to college students.


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                                        - the waifs

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date:         wed, 29 jul 1998 12:05:00 +1000
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hey folks,

here's another article from mtv news online...

-sherlyn

===
7.28.98 16:00 edt
indigo girls tap lisa germano, ann wilson, shonen knife,
others for experimental tour

the indigo girls are tapping a host of female performers
for a tour that promises to offer what indigo girl amy ray
is calling "a socialist experiment in rock and roll."

lisa germano, jane siberry, heart's ann wilson, luscious
jackson's kate schellenbach, the breeders' josephine wiggs,
mecca normal's jean smith, come's thalia zedek, lourdes
perez, and gail ann dorsey (who has played with david bowie
and tears for fears) will all be on board for the 12-date
tour, which kicks off on august 19 in portland, maine. the
indigos are hoping for a harmonious convergence of the
differing style and approaches represented by each of the
artists who will share the stage. or as ray said in a
statement released to announce the tour, the plan is to
"gather a bunch of musicians from different musical genres
who are relatively unfamiliar with each other... throw them
on a tour bus together... drop them off at a rock club, and
see what happens."

if you want to see what happens (and see opening acts
shonen knife and buffalo daughter), here's where to look:

8/19 - portland, maine @ state theater
8/20 - burlington, vermont @ memorial auditorium (w/buffalo
        daughter)
8/22 - cleveland, ohio @ the agora (w/buffalo daughter)
8/24 - detroit, michigan @ state theater (w/buffalo
        daughter)
8/25 - chicago, illinois @ the riviera (w/buffalo daughter)
8/26 - chicago, illinois @ the riviera (w/buffalo daughter)
8/27 - milwaukee, wisconsin @ rave (w/shonen knife)
8/28 - minneapolis, minnesota @ first avenue (w/shonen
        knife)
8/30 - cincinnati, ohio @ bogart's (w/shonen knife)
9/1 - norfolk, virginia @ boathouse (w/shonen knife)
9/2 - philadelphia, pennsylvania @ electric factory
        (w/shonen knife)
9/3 - new york, new york @ roseland


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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 20:13:03 -0700
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hi everyone,

even though i have unsubscribed from this list.  i just wanted to let you
know that i found an interview w/amy on lesbian news online. i don't
know how to add a link to e-mail so you will have to type it in. the
address is:

www.lesbiannews.com/feature/feature1.shtml

speak true
eddie

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 23:11:47 edt
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so where is everyone today?   i am feeling lonely!

so here is a question to stir the ig lyric pot a tad....

a few days ago, i got in the mail form chloe a few boots.  one of them has on
it the recording the girls doing the general foods international coffeehouse.
if seems this was taped in 1992 before rop was even fully recorded.  the set
list is as follows:

cedar tree
love will come to you
ghost
jonas & ezekial

there are some harmonies that i have never heard before, some twists and turns
that seem to have ended up on the recording room floor.  it is interesting
also to hear the banter back and forth.  i feel like i don't hear them talk as
much as i would like.  oh and they sound so young!!!

so here is the thing... on lwcty, one of my fav ig songs, it sounds like there
was an extra verse between the chorus and "dodging your memories."  i can't
really understand what emily is singing, but it sounds like something about
dreaming of a place where you can't feel the pain.

if you have any insight into this, please pass it along.  also, if you have
these words typed out, pass them along as well.  this is really one of my top
3 ig songs, and yesterday, when i was driving home from work, i almost ran off
the road when i heard extra lyrics i did not know existed!

thanks!!!  have fun!!!

babs

ps: and....yes i checked the faq and lifeblood!
pss:  if this has been covered in the past, i am sorry, and you can email me
in private!  no public flame wars please!!!

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date:         tue, 28 jul 1998 23:49:48 edt
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    <<<arbitrary songs of the week... "left me a fool">>>

i love left me a fool...
   it reminds me of some past relationships (i resign myself to silence, i
will never blow your cover, no one ever has to know who the hero took for
lover)
   and i love the line "everybody loves a hero, an image to creat.  the
antithesis of everything inside ourselves we hate."  i think that is so
wonderful!!
   the music itself is so pretty, i just love it!  wow, another great quote is
hitting me, to suffer all your pride as i lay down by your side... i think
this song is just great stuff.  it has long been one of my favorites.  great
choice sherlyn

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