lifeblood: listlogs: 1998-08a


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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 01:06:57 -0700
reply-to:     melissa singhaus <msinghaus@msmisp.com>
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i see emily as a nice kitty. a home animal, because she seems down to
earth. for amy i would chose panther because she seems adventurous. missy

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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 01:09:18 -0700
reply-to:     melissa singhaus <msinghaus@msmisp.com>
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i am looking to picking up my guitar again and i am wondering if there is a
place on the net that has the chords or notes to the ig songs. if not where
i can purchase one of the books that has them in it. missy

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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 01:35:23 edt
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1.  if amy and emily were animals, what do you think each of them would
be???
        ---a tiger and a lily come to mind...a tiger curled around the
lily...sleeping soundly...in the sun...i want to be a tiger wrapped around a
lily, sleeping soundly in the sun...  :(  i'll never be a tiger...or a
lily...but i love tigerlilies...their purrrty...

kara's had a long day...


2.  describe your ultimate fantasy concert experience....location, set
list, company, tiome of year....etc...
          ---i really don't have an all out "concert" fantasy...but, lets just
say, if i were out camping on a still cool summer night somewhere...either a
desert...or a canyon...or on the hiking trail above scagway with a very few
close friends and we all had our little instruments...shawn and her jaw
harp...heather and her small bongos...me and a guitar...or a
recorder...michelle (the painter) and her canvas as she paints her
scene...heather2 with her rattler...and we were all just sittin' around the
fire talkin', jammin' and singin'...and lo and behold amy or emily, or both,
or one with another person...(but just two or three or four of them all
together) just happened to stroll down the path at twilight or dusk...and just
happened to want to stop and stay for a night and laugh and sing and play with
us...i would lose it...i would absolutely lose it...i wouldn't know what to do
with myself...i would probably cry...i get goosebumps thinking about it...

going to bed with that incredibly beautiful thought in my head....peace.
kara.

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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 01:56:24 -0700
reply-to:     melissa singhaus <msinghaus@msmisp.com>
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my fantasy concert experience would take place the hilltoppers field in
clarksburg, wv. the time of year would be oct.2 in the fall. i would like
to be with fans of the ig and melissa etheridge. my friend donita that i
hope someday is more and my best friend leah that i know would never come,
but in my fantasy she would be there. i would have front row seats down on
the field with donita on my right and my best friend on my left. time of
night would be around 6 o'clock. the ig would play first for two hours and
then melissa etheridge would play for two hours. as for set list they would
be

ig

chicken man
ghost
galileo
romeo and juilet
shed your skin
blister in the sun
shame on you
ghost
strange fire
secure self
scooter boys
kind friend
closer i am to fine

me

similar features
bring me some water
like the way i do
dance without sleeping
must be crazy for me
meet me in the back
your little secret
i really like you
all the way to heaven
you can sleep while i dreve
skin deep
if i wanted to come over
yes i am
silent legacy
talking to my angel
shiner's park

well after the concert i get to go back stage and meet the ig and me and
get my photo with them and both of their autographs. that is my idea of a
concert to remember. missy

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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 02:15:43 -0400
reply-to:     barbara corrice <bcorrice@wam.umd.edu>
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emily would be one of my kitties
and
amy would be the other
damn, i'm deep....
also, they would sleep in my bed every night!

peace + love,
forever a flower child
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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 02:51:34 -0400
reply-to:     "m. macvey" <mmacvey@attach.net>
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a
> well...i don' know about emily...but i'm sure amy would be
> a big stinky dog.
snip
>
>ok...well i guess emily can be a squirrel...a big ol' bird seed stealin'
>squirrel.
>but only if she asks nice.


what...not a mountain beaver????

m

" i am what i am and that's all that i am" popeye (the sailorman)

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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 03:01:35 edt
reply-to:     kayetea@aol.com
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1.  if amy and emily were animals, what do you think each of them would
be???
   umm.... a cow and a chickenman.

2.  describe your ultimate fantasy concert experience....location, set
list, company, tiome of year....etc...
   lilith fair at the gorge in george, wa was my ultimate fantasy concert
experience! i wish jewel was there though.

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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 21:15:50 +1000
reply-to:     joanna <c9709180@alinga.newcastle.edu.au>
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on fri, 31 jul 1998 hunterj1@aol.com wrote:
hi all,

> hi...does anyone know how to get a video reformatted into the pal format for
> our listees in europe?  they look at our mail all day long and read about
> lilith fair, etc. and have *no idea* what this means...can we help?

this is the same system that is used in australia.  i wrote a few weeks
ago saying that i had access to a pal/ntsc video convertor for a few
weeks.  i don't know how much longer i'll be able to use it  but if some
videos could be sent to me asap then i may have enough time left to
convert them and distribute them.  the convertor is a friend of a friend
and at the moment there is a lot she has to convert but if you can help
then email me and i'll see if it's still possible
peace all
joanna >
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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 09:36:56 edt
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from:         susan elliott <foggydew16@aol.com>
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bcorrice@wam.umd.edu wrote:

>emily would be one of my kitties
>and
>amy would be the other
>also, they would sleep in my bed every night!

good answer!  i *have* to second this.
i have 2 cats...
amy would by my black cat
and
emily would be my calico.
they both sleep in my bed every night.  the black cat is more aloof and sleeps
at the foot of the bed, but the calico sleeps between my legs every night.
;-)

~susan

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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 10:11:08 -0500
reply-to:     allison hastings <alhastings@mindspring.com>
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subject:      benefit at eddie's last night?
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hi all,
     just leaving lurkdom long enough to see if anyone went to the
benefit at eddie's attic last night.  if so, will you please email me
witha review of the show.  i was stuck in traffic and couldn't make it!

smiles,
allison

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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 11:53:26 -0400
reply-to:     amy cason <stu6361@westga.edu>
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subject:      whoo hoo chicago here i come
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:::dancing::: i got tickets, i got tickets, lalalalalala!!

thanks to all of y'all who told me how to find the chicago info on the tm
website!  i'll be there aug 25th!!

speaking of which, could those of you who have been to the riviera
privately email me and tell me what it's like, as in seats, how hard it is
to find a place to park, etc. thanks!!

happy happy happy
amy

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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 11:14:35 -0500
reply-to:     anne haines <ahaines@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
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here's some info on one of the lesser-known artists on the suffragette
sessions tour.

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7/27/98   for immediate release      please announce/forward
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*lourdes perez in concert at hyde park theater on aug.11 @ 7:30 p.m.*
*austin send off party for indigo girls/suffragette sessions tour '98*
*contact: annette d'armata @ 512-442-5986 or encanto@eden.com*
*********************************************************************

puerto rican singer/songwriter lourdes perez was invited by the group
indigo girls to perform with them and other women artists in 11 u.s.
cities as a participant in their suffragette sessions tour beginning
august 19, 1998.

perez, who writes and sings songs in spanish in a style influence by the
string-based mountain music of her home and other regions of latin
america, was born and raised in san sebastian, puerto rico. she has
lived in austin, texas for the past 6 years where her artistic career
began.  two compact discs of her work have been recorded and released:
recuerdate por mi (chee wee/1994) and vestigios (vivavoce/1997). her
poetry and distinctive contralto voice have become known in and beyond
the region largely through word of mouth and through invitations to
perform from other artists such as argentina's mercedes sosa,
mexico's guillermo velazquez, austin's tish hinojosa and others.

while the words of perez' songs hold a special place in the hearts of
many spanish-speaking audiences scattered throughout the u.s., mexico
and puerto rico, it is perez' passionate voice that repeatedly evokes
the phrase "transcends language" from her non-spanish speaking, u.s.and
european listeners and critics.   a fervent austin following, which is
proud to call this "troubadour-diva" its own, is celebrating lourdes'
inclusion in the tour and are hoping that the collaboration with the
indigo girls and the other artists will enable her music to received by
an even broader audience.

the following lists tour dates, venues and participating artists.
please help us spread the word that the "suffragette sessions tour" will
include la palabra y la voz de esta artista tremenda.  contact venues
and ticket outlets in the towns listed for ticket sale information.  for
other information, contact us at: encanto@eden.com.

for those close to austin, lourdes will perform at a "send-off" concert
on tuesday, august 11th at hyde park theater at 7:30 p.m.  a new single,
"100 anos de resistencia" will be released.  tickets are $10 general
seating.  for more information: 512-442-5986.

we will be updating the websites with more details:
http://www.monsterbit.com/awol/lourdeshome.html
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/lourdesperez/index.html


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suffragette sessions tour artists:
amy ray and emily saliers of indigo girls
gail ann dorsey
lisa germano
lourdes perez
kate schellenbach
jane siberry
jean smith
josephine wiggs
thalia zedek

opening acts: shonen knife and buffalo daughter


tour schedule:
wednesday 8/19 portland, me      state theater
thursday  8/20 burlington, vt    memorial auditorium
saturday  8/22 cleveland, oh     agora
monday    8/24 detroit, mi       state theater
tuesday   8/25 chicago, il       riviera
wednesday 8/26 chicago, il       riviera
thursday  8/27 milwaukee, wi     rave
friday    8/28 minneapolis, mn   first ave.
sunday    8/30 cincinnati, oh    bogart's
tuesday   9/1  norfolk, va       boathouse
wednesday 9/2  philadelphia, pa  electric factory
thursday  9/3  new york, ny      roseland

updates:
http://www.epiccenter.com/epiccenter/indigogirls/artistupdate.qry

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email: encanto@eden.com

representing vivavoce recording artists lourdes perez and eva ybarra
http://www.monsterbit.com/awol/lourdeshome.html
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/lourdesperez/index.html

for information on chiapas, mexico:
http://www.peak.org/~joshua/fzln

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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 09:54:13 pdt
reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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ig noticably absent from details magazine's lilith article. the new one
with matt damon on the cover (:p) has an article "13 ways to look at
lilith fair" pictures are of natalie merchant, sinead o'conner, erykah
badu & of course sarah m. they mention the above four in the
article..which seems a little odd because they comprise 4 of the
mainstage acts.. + the indigo girls..don't they usually have just 5
mainstage acts?? (pics looked like they were taken from the first lilith
the portland one. the same on vh1 televised) i dunno but i'm pretty
disgusted with them now :p

(*hugs*)
lamia

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everything's alright, stuffed animals are always right."
--k's choice, butterflies instead


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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 15:23:47 edt
reply-to:     tahmehawk@aol.com
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does anyone know if there is an website for details magazine?

lynn   :-)    <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
tahmehawk's place</a>

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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 12:25:27 pdt
reply-to:     bethany p <pbethany@hotmail.com>
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a'ight...i just received a really friggin' speedy shipment from daemon
this morning. :) whoo hoo! caroline aiken's live at the
attic...(amazing!), lift's lifelike (i know, i know...i'm a little late
:), and cooper seay's fin de siecle....oh yeah! got a badness daemon
bumpa sticker too..."louder than you think," baby! :)
got a question. should there be a booklet with the cooper seay c.d?!
it's kinda weird...it wasn't wrapped when i got it and there's a little
pocket there (like the paper version of 1200 curfews), like there should
be a booklet inserted.  maybe i'm just too hopeful. hmmm...
anyone else have this?

take care,
bethany :)


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date:         sat, 1 aug 1998 15:27:31 -0400
reply-to:     deanna light <drlight@mindspring.com>
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subject:      ig items for sale (sys red/blue, atlanta roxy ticket)
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hey, everyone.  i have three items i'd like to offer for sale to the list at
large.  inspired by the fairness to all of the recent "lottery" system for
selling items on the list, i'd like to do them all by lottery, and will sell
each item for exactly the price i paid for it originally.  here's what i have:

1.  shed your skin promo (blue cover): $35
2.  shed your skin promo (red cover): $20
3.  one ticket to the roxy show on wednesday, august 5:  $20 ($16 + tm
charges)

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here's how the sale will work:


1.  send me one e-mail for each item you are interested in.
        a.  for the blue sys promo, put "blue sys" in the subject.
        b.  for the red sys promo, put "red sys" in the subject.
        c.  for the roxy ticket, put "roxy ticket" in the subject.

please note that you should send a separate e-mail for each item you are
interested in.  for example, to enter the lottery for both the red and blue
sys promo, you would send me one e-mail with "blue sys" in the subject, and
one with "red sys" in the subject.

2.  on monday, august 3, at 6 am (yes, *am*!), i will "draw" for the roxy
ticket and notify the winner.  i would greatly prefer to sell to someone in
the atlanta area who could arrange to pick up the ticket from me either on
monday or tuesday evening, so as to avoid confusion on the evening of the
show.

3.  on thursday, august 6, at 6 pm, i will "draw" for the red and blue sys
promos and notify the winners.  we can then arrange for shipping and/or
pickup.

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i realize that the prices on the sys promos are a bit steep, but again,
these are the prices i paid for them back during the feeding frenzy that the
appearance of these singles generated.  if nobody is interested in these
items at these prices, i will put them on ebay and sell them to the highest
bidder -- but i wanted to offer them up to the list first, because i'd
rather have them go to *fans*.

thanks, everyone.  i'll post the results to the list after the lotteries are
over.

deanna
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ok according to the magazine the hp is:

http://www.swoon.com

their email is

letters@details.com

must include your full name, address and daytime phone #

lamia

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hi:-)
this is kim's gf. i have been reading over her shoulder for a long time now
and she finally got me to write my own posts. kim converted me a couple of
years ago but i was absolutly sold, taken ,enamoured, in love with, wanna
get lost in amys eyes..... well you get the picture,when i saw them in
concert in seattle at the pier last aug.
kim asked me what animals i thought the girls would be best represented by.
so here are my thoughts. amy, well the first and only animal that came to
mind was a black panther. the panther is the most darkly sensual animal that
i can think of, also thier eyes are very intense. the panther's moves are
very liquid and smooth just like amy.  when i saw her in concert she seemed
to be ready to just explode into action, it is in the way she feels the
music, all coiled and ready for anything that life has to offer.ok well i
could go on about amy but i won't. ( kim is getting just a little
jealous)<wicked grin>
emily is a hawk, her lyrics are so wise and intelligent. she watches over
the group. she is always looking into the audience aware of all that is
going on around her, she is in touch with her audience. with a hawk you can
see were they are coming from and with emily you know exactly what she is
feeling and what she is trying to do with her lyrics. amy is mysterious and
you know that there is so much going on behind her words and eyes.
i would really be curious to know what their totems are. kim and i have
looked into what ours are and it is very interesting how the animals we
choose were so close to our actual personalities. if anyone wants to they
can check thiers out just lets us know and we can send you some addies for it.
well i am glad to finally get up the nerve to post to you all.
take care, heather

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amy:  a python.  she's not mean and vicious like a snake, but sleek, dark, strong,
and fierce.  on stage, she seems ready to "strike" at any time with her explosive
talent and intense personality.

emily:  an eagle.  she's free and high-spirited.  she's brilliant like the
eagle--one of the most intelligent birds. her lyrics are bright and beautiful and
her music seems to soar with the wind.

just my thoughts,
sharon

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in a message dated 98-08-01 12:55:34 edt, saliers_ray@hotmail.com writes:

<< g noticably absent from details magazine's lilith article. the new one
with matt damon on the cover (:p) has an article "13 ways to look at
lilith fair" pictures are of natalie merchant, sinead o'conner, erykah
badu & of course sarah m. >>

well, details is geared towards the straight male audience.  the magazine
probably feels that males wouldn't be able to perceive the girls as someone
that would fulfill their sexual fantasies, since the girls are lesbian and do
not dress to please the straight male.

this reminds me of an mtv commercial that was out a year or so ago.  the
characters from the movie clerks were in the commercial.  one of the guys was
talking about how much he'd love to sleep with various female singers.  then
he was ready to say something about melissa etheridge when the other guy
whispered in his ear.  the first guy said "that's cool".

wmntime - who doesn't watch much mtv anymore (besides, i'm beyond their 18-34
demographic).

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with all this talk about what animal best suit the ig's, i started
thinking....colors represent many things to many people.  so i thought i would
try an start a new thread.

what color would you say best represent a&e?   i'll start it.

amy would be purple, cause purple is an intense color that could branch out
into many other colors...including indigo.  i see amy as a person that loves
to be involved in many things and does it whole-heartedly.

emily would be green, cause she seems to be much more mellow and at peace in
her life and songwriting.   green is a very peaceful color, but at the same
time it can roll with the punches and come thru looking great.  i see emily
this way and thru it all, she is better educated about herself and life.

next......

lynn   :-)    <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
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helloooo

if anyone knows of 2 available tickets to sunday's festival, please email
or refer me to who i  can get in touch with!!

thanks in advance!
-meghan

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hi y'all!

it's me, karen (s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu), my school's server is down
until sunday night so i figured i'd just post from this addy (i am not
subscribed under this address, so i won't be reading any posts until probably
monday).  anyway, i got a ticket to the chicago show!!!!!  i made my best
friend call so i wouldn't have to make another longdistence call.  i'll be
there on the wednesday night!  yeah!

love,
karen :-)

ps- if you need to reach me, i probably won't be checking any e-mail till
monday.  i am leaving the bay area for chicago on early monday and i am just
really busy doing last minute stuff...

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howdy all!

                i like this thread!

lynn van fossen wrote:


> what color would you say best represent a&e?   i'll start it.

   however, i believe that a & e are represented by  red & blue
        red (for amy)since this color (especially in dreams) represents life
force, passion..anger...and (get this) blood and fire...and if that
ain't our amy, i don't know what is!
        blue (for emily) 'cause it is the color that represents spiritual
energy and high ideals, high aspirations of the souls.  is this not
emily?

        anyway, just my opinion, i'm sure there are lots of other interesting
thoughts out there.  let's hear them  :o)

        peace & love
        jules

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i have one ticket available for the sunday newport concert

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amy would be a deep blood red or purple...
emily would be light silvery blue

*hugs*

lamia

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>>the characters from the movie clerks were in the commercial.

i'd just like to say despite some negative things like that..the movie
clerks is actually a really good movie!! and the director kevin smith is
in my opinion brilliant! the whole movie is meant to be sarcastic..

*hugs*

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on planet earth, and i'm alive..so right now, i'm getting naked, and i'm
not afraid.."
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i think emily would be yellow because it's bright and sunny.
amy would be purple because it's deap.

                                                  yep yep. = )
                                                           katy

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amy:  denim blue
emily: ecru

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cruisin' around www.rockontv.com, i saw that something called "a look at
lilith fair" will be on a program called world beat, on cnn *tonight*
(saturday) at midnight, and *tomorrow* (sunday) at 3:30 pm.
i don't know if this is the same thing that was broadcast last month - i don't
get cnn - but i was thinking that at least someone might want to check it
out...

puppies,
flora

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emily would be winnie the pooh and amy would be tigger.  (so much energy!)

and i, of course, would be christopher robin with my own little concert in the
forest:+)

love and smiles,
~kristen

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hey folks,

i remember people asking about this album a bit ago. i was surfing
around on ebay and came across an auction for the album (cd). the
auction goes until 8 august. if you're interested, check out the
website:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=23709349

good luck!

peace,
amy

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hmmmm....  lemme  see....
emily goddess would be vanilla
amy goddess would be chocolate
wooooooooo hooooooooo!
luv 2 yous intimate strangers,
strawberry shortcake or chocolate bar
who is terminally silly


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hi,
i'm trying to find out where this second stage is in relation to the main
stage.  i can't find out anything on the nff web page and i'm trying to figure
out where to grab a space when the mad rush through the gates is on.
does anyone know how this will be set up?
thanks
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hey all....

i am needin' help on a song that amy was singing a bit in between one of her
songs at lilith in columbus....it goes kinda like:   "i'm gettin' older too"
or something like that.  it's a beautiful song...so any info would be
appreciated!!

thanks!!

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hkf,

i picked up an extra copy of the red sys today at a record and cd collectors show.  i'm looking to trade it for a blue sys.  if anyone is interested let me know!

ps:  i recommend going to those shows, i got the two red sys cds, the touch me fall promo cd, and a gerard mchugh cd for $16.  i still can't believe it.  sixteen bucks, what a deal. :)

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>i am needin' help on a song that amy was singing a bit in between one of
her songs >at lilith in columbus....it goes kinda like:   "i'm gettin'
older too" or something like >that.  it's a beautiful song...so any info
would be

wow--could that be part of that fleetwood mac song?  i don't remember the
name but it gets a lot of airplay on my dentist's radio station of
choice.  anybody else have an idea?  what sog does she stick it into?

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i know a question was posted on where to find ig tablature,
and using pollstar i found a page:
http://www.dreamscape.com/esmith/dansm/acoustic/songs.htm#indigo
it has a limited number of songs, but it will get you
started, i'll e-mail more sites, when i get home.

also about the mystery song.  i know exactly which
fleetwood mac song you are talking about.  it is on the cd
"the dance" and i think it is called the chain, but i'll
listen to it at home and let you know for sure.

karen

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i'm gettin'
>older too" or something like >that.  it's a beautiful song...so any info
>would be
>
>wow--could that be part of that fleetwood mac song?  i don't remember the
>name but it gets a lot of airplay on my dentist's radio station of
>choice.  anybody else have an idea?  what sog does she stick it into?

well, the song is "landslide".  but i hadn't heard of amy doing that
song...would be very cool if so...

justin

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the mystery song is fleetwood mac's "landslide" from their last album....which
i can't remember the name of right now.  i think it's titled "the dance".

lynn   :-)    <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
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has anyone else seen the mtv ad with the two guys dressed up as girls
going to a music fest suspiciously similar to lilith?? it's got the
opening  chords to  galileo at the beginning and various other parts
throughout it. so, they use the girls for self-promotion, but they won't
play their damn videos. sigh.

also, sorry for posting to everyone about the jilly fan club, i am forever
sorry if i made anyone mad/frustrated/etc. i understand completely. so
sorry.

amy m.

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are you sure it wasn't fleetwood mac's "landslide"??? just an idea off the top
of my head.

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hey y'all, this may be late, but i think the song is landslide.

<< also about the mystery song.  i know exactly which
fleetwood mac song you are talking about >>

some of the lyrics are :

i been afraid of changing cuz i built my world around you
well time made you bolder, even children get older
and i'm gettin older too

see y'all

bonnie

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and, this is a really old song...like what 20 years?  (for all you
teens)

bonnie lacey wrote:

> hey y'all, this may be late, but i think the song is landslide.
>
> << also about the mystery song.  i know exactly which
>  fleetwood mac song you are talking about >>
>
> some of the lyrics are :
>
> i been afraid of changing cuz i built my world around you
> well time made you bolder, even children get older
> and i'm gettin older too
>

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in a message dated 8/2/98 3:59:49 pm, bonnemot@aol.com wrote:

>hey y'all, this may be late, but i think the song is landslide.

you know you're a shall-we-say more "mature" member of this list when you
remember when landslide was originally a hit about 18 years ago, as opposed to
the current remake by the reunited members of fleetwood mac.  and i think
landslide is off of the rumours album.  i would love to hear amy's version of
it, and i think it's totally plausible that she would pick it ... she would
have been in high school when it first came out and was all over the radio.

heidi

p.s.  anybody else think amy would rock out on "go your own way?"

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hey now..i'm 17 and i can remember being 4 years old and listening to
rumors and the rhiannon 7" single on the record player! *giggle* so you
don't have to be old to know this song..!!

*hugs*

lamia

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>
> p.s.  anybody else think amy would rock out on "go your own way?"


i would *love* to see/hear this!!!  yeah - amy would totally rock out!
just had to add my 2 cents...

take it easy -
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you know, if you'd have asked me this question say 2 years ago i would have said yes!  but i am so sick of fleetwood mac since their rerelease of the "oldies"...i bet i've seen that on vh1 and
mtv a hundred times, and well, their stuff was good and the rerelease is good, but they are not indigo girls, who you can never get enough of.  oh well, i guess i still say yes.

we need to get them to put a cd out with all covers...that would be awesome!

> >
> > p.s.  anybody else think amy would rock out on "go your own way?"

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landslide info:

ok!

here goes.. landslide is song #8 on the 1975 album "fleetwood mac" ... there
is a little blurb on the bottom of the songlist on the back of the cd.

::: "fleetwood mac" was the album that signified a dramatic change in
fleetwood mac's fortunes.  released in july, 1975-when the group was already
eight years old-the album yielded three top 20 singles ("over my head,"
"rhiannon" and, "say yo love me") and went on to sell four million copies.  it
also became fleetwood mac's first number one album in the united states.   :::

and i agree.. amy was made for landslide!!!!!!

babs

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i would say amy and emily combine they make a full rainbow. missy

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hi y'all

i had to add to that thread about animals...i have 2 small lizards
(they're adorable!) named amy and emily!  nigc, but i just got a kitty
(and mollie, amy...i will get to bring her home...), but i let my japanese
prof name her b/c i wanted something very japanese...anyway, her name is
nynnyu-chun...

love,
karen :-)

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in a message dated 02/08/98 21.17.06 est, msinghaus@msmisp.com writes:

<< i would say amy and emily combine they make a full rainbow. >>

wow, how cool!!!! what an idea....awesome!!

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hi y'all!

i love that song!  anyway, the girls inserted part of it into chickenman
at one of last year's berkeley shows (one of the ones in july).  they said
that they did it b/c they were at the time listening to fleetwood mac.
anyway, it is a beautiful song.  you can even find it on a cd single i saw
a bunch...)

love,
karen :-)

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>date:  fri, 31 jul 1998 13:08:30 -0500
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>from:  sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu>
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>
>amy would be a big, black panther.  no doubt about that.
>
>emily would be a gentle arabian mare.
>
>don't know why i thought of this.
>
>weird.
>
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> from: t. waters <imat39@durham.net>
> to: indigo girls@netspace.org
> subject: help!!!!
> date: sunday, august 02, 1998 11:01 pm
>
> hi.  i was wondering if anybody could please provide me with some info
> regarding the following concerts:
> aug 11 - bethlehem, pa
> aug 12 - michigan womyn's music festival
>
> i am heading to chicago and the michigan concert would be great but i
> visited their website and i don't really understand the format of
> admittance.  also, do you know if the girls will be playing full concerts
> at each of these venues?  any info would be greatly appreciated as it is
> pretty important to see the girls.  thanks in advance.
> tami
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>
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my friend paula made my millenium today.
it was paula, her gf serena and myself exchanging birthday gifts (her gf's
is tuesday, paula's is friday, mine is 3 weeks from yesterday...)anyways...
part of paula's gift to me was giving me her autographed copy of nomads
indians saints.  i almost died.

she is truly a saint :)
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i was in atlanta the middle of july and i talked to you about the indigo
girls. you showed me amy ray's sig in the men's room. well, if you
remember me please email me...

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merely five minutes after i finally got permission to go to newport, i
was informed that tickets had been sold out...needles to say, i am
devastated, so, if anyone has one extra ticket for sunday, i would
appreciate a response to jensnow@juno.com.

i already sent a note to   joann desrochers <jdesroc374@aol.com> in
response to her post, but haven't gotten a response yet, so if anyone has
an extra they want to sell, please contact me; i will be eternally
grateful.

if you don't have a ticket, but do know of anyone (or any ticket
salesperson (i know, i know, but i'd pay any price)) who might, please
let me know as well.

thanks for your anticipated cooperation,
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howdy all,

        hope everyones weekend was productive, fun and full of indigo stuff!
just wanted to add to the list of covers we'd like ig to do...

        i'm thinkin'  jackson browne's 'rosie' or 'you love the thunder'
        and bob seger's  'against the wind' or 'roll me away'..or
even..'mainstreet' hmmm..

        just more dreamin' on my part

        jules

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on sun, 2 aug 1998, strawberry shortcake wrote:

> emily goddess would be vanilla
> amy goddess would be chocolate

   wow...now what would that make ani difranco?

   ::drool...and then some::

   darius

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on sun, 2 aug 1998, heidi duncanson wrote:

> you know you're a shall-we-say more "mature" member of this list when you
> remember when landslide was originally a hit about 18 years ago, as opposed to
> the current remake by the reunited members of fleetwood mac.  and i think
> landslide is off of the rumours album.

   you're right -- landslide is from the rumours album.  and i was, er...1
year old then.  we'll only call you old if you remember who peter green
was, and what he had to do with fleetwood mac.  ;)

> p.s.  anybody else think amy would rock out on "go your own way?"

   wowie!  amy - "go your own way", and then the duo singing "silver
springs", which as any devoted fm fan would know, is stevie nicks's
response to gyow...  cool...

   darius

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i'm not sure who it was that asked, but someone out there wanted to get some
pics of the always gorgeous patrice rene pike, with that beautiful short hair
of her's ;)
the only link i can find right now has only a few pics of her recently...its
at
bugjuice.com/sister7/nest.html.  i do have some pics i took of her at the last
la zona rosa show that i can send out,  i don't have them yet but i'll let you
know when i get them.
val

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hey all!

i maybe so dumb, but i really have to be in newport this sunday!

i am trying to convince a good friend of mine, and she knows who she is, to
drive there with me sunday am and try to scam tickets!

i have to see the girls and mm!  it is a must for me to live!  lilith and the
fleadh were not enough! i need more!

so here is the question ... if it is sold out, and nobody has a spare ticket,
will there be, have there been in the past, folks there with extra tickets to
get ride of at the gate?

i have never been before, and i am just trying to plan this last minute!

thanks for the help!

babs

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hey kind listees....

has anyone mentioned a list meet this weekend (sat. or sun.) at the nff?

i know there are lots of people coming in from all over the country (world
for some people) and would love to get names associated with faces.

thanks all,

-alanna

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ill be there on sunday...id like to know if there is a scheduled meeting
too...

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hey y'all--
  last night, i'm walking through my dinky barnes and noble here in kentucky,
and what do i see on display?  the flying biscuit cookbook!!!  i wasn't even
aware that there was one, but i am even more impressed that it made it to
kentucky!!
lauren

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well, since i missed this one over the weekend, i will jump in now....

i see emily as a bright sunny yellow....maybe it's her hair, or her
disposition, but that's what i see.
amy is an intense, fiery red-orange--fits her personality and songwriting.

winona (who, speaking of colors, feels a bit pathetic for purchasing the
new maybelline nail polish--indigo chic--simply for the color name.  not
that it's a bad color, i like it....)

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i saw this ad last night.  i frankly, found it stupid
and somewhat offensive. they had two men in drag,
talking about how "oh you're so thin!  you're like
fiona apple!" and then the other lifts up his shirt
and the other says "ooh!"  (girly squeal) "what have
you been eating?"  and he says "i've only been eating
protein drinks!"  oh yeah, and at the opening, the
back of one of the shirts said something about being
gay.

i almost puked.  i'm all for gay visibility, or ig
visibility or whatever but not when it involves two
nasty men in drag (note: they weren't drag queens,
which wouldda been different in a whole other way)
talking about how thin they are and what they've been
eating.

is that what lesbian ig listeners are supposed to be
doing?  talking about their thiness and what they
eat?  shit, i'd better get working at that.

i'm prolly being overly sensitive, but i don't care.

amanda

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> has anyone else seen the mtv ad with the two guys
dressed up as girls going to a music fest
suspiciously similar to lilith?? it's got the opening
chords to  galileo at the beginning and various
other parts throughout it. so, they use the girls for
self-promotion, but they won't play their damn
videos. sigh.

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well, gotta say that amy would be cordovan for her passion, intensity
and richness and emily would be emerald green for the clarity, honesty
and depth.....

sparkies ideas...

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ah, what the hell, i will start a new thread--

since we've already done what covers we would like ig to do, how about this
one:

what ig songs would you like to see covered, and by whom?

hmmmm....now i gotta think about this one!  all i thought up was the
question....i'll get back to y'all.  the only thing i can think of right
now is a bodeans/ig "closer to free"/"closer to fine" mix....now that might
be interesting.

winona :-)

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none...noone could do the indigo girls stuff like they do..it would make me
puke...how about ig on muzak...forget this thread.ah, what the hell, i will
start a new thread--

> since we've already done what covers we would like ig to do, how about this
> one:
>
> what ig songs would you like to see covered, and by whom?
>

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hey bar, my favorite flower child, i lost your e-mail addy.  can you please
write?  this is for you, but i thought the rest of you might enjoy it too!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.  our deepest fear is that
we are powerful beyond measure.  it is our light, not our darkness, that
frightens us.  we ask ourselves, who am i to be brilliant, gorgeous,
talented and fabulous?  actually, who are you not to be?  you are a child of
god.  your  playing small doesn't serve the world.  there's nothing
enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around
you.  we were born to make manifest the glory of god that is within us. it's
not just in some of us, it's in everyone.  and as we let our own light
shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.  and as
we are liberated from our own fears, our presence automatically liberates
others."

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peace.

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wouldn't amy and em both be indigo? i don't know...

anyway, so i want to know if we are having a listmeet for the chicago
shows. i am going on wednesday for sure and i might try to get a single
ticket for thursday, but anyway, if the chicagoans who are going on
wednesday want to email me, i'll start a smaller list so everyone doesn't
have to read about it. then once we decide on something, we'll announce it
to the whole list...how does that sound? later...

k-bye!
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on mon, 3 aug 1998, karen frey wrote:

> none...noone could do the indigo girls stuff like they do..it would make me
> puke...how about ig on muzak...forget this thread.ah, what the hell, i will
> start a new thread--

   i dunno about that -- granted it would be tricky, given the ig's
penchant for two-part harmony, and it wouldn't be the same, but that's the
whole point of a cover, right?  the best covers reinterpret a song and
make it their own -- 10km's "more than this" stands out much more than the
original brian ferry version, so does the ig's "tangled up in blue", as
much as i hate to say it, elvis's "blue suede shoes," etc...
   but a lot of the artists that i'd like to see covering ig songs are
people who have already jammed with ig.

   bonnie raitt - "nashville"
      imagine the slide solo.  did anybody else crap their pants upon
      first hearing her solo on "spit of love"?
   u2 - "welcome me"
      there's something about the desperation in amy's voice that would
      match neatly with bono's singing style.  plus the song would work
      really well with lots of swirling, multiple-layered guitars,
      sixteen-billion-part harmony and if anybody can do that, it's edge.

   that's all i can think of for now.  but here's another ig
duet/cover...i doubt it'll ever happen, just because of people, but
y'know...

   b.b. king/ig - the thrill is gone

   darius

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hey y'all (i'm working on my fake southern accent)

i just happen to have an extra ticket to the roxy show in atlanta weds.
unfortunately i only have one ticket.  i'll be happy to sell it to someone for
$20 (which is what i paid for it)

email me if you want it :)
amy c.

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what time are y'all who are going to see the ig in dc at the 9:30 going to
start standing in line...i want to know if i need to leave work earlier than i
had planned on...

thanks!

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okay, i think i just confused myself. iknow that i am going on the 26th of
august, but i forget if the other one is tuesday or thursday. so anyway, i
am helping to organize the chicagoans for the 26th. sorry about that.

k-bye!
kristi
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>> just wanted to add to the list of covers we'd like ig to do...
  ok - what about these....

joe jackson (i think thats right) - "is she really going out w
him...is she really gonna take him home tonight..."  know that
one...heehee

or what about the pina colada song...interesting.

or what about - five man electrical band - signs.  i think that one
would rock - really.

take it easy...
just some songs for thought...
sunny
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not only have i seen this ad, but two of my best friends are in it. in fact,
my friend is the one at the beginning who you see wearing the "im not gay but
my girlfriend is" shirt. my friends confirmed my opinion that this ad (there
may be other ones to come, they did a day long shoot) was basically mtv acting
like a jealous little baby because vh1 gets all the lilith coverage. they
tried to play up every lilith stereotype there is. when my friend was invited
to come to this, she was dressed in a long flowing skirt and birkenstocks, and
playing her guitar and singing in a park. the mtv people told her to dress
exactly the same "hippie-ish" for the shoot.  they shot this ad on the same
day as one of the lilith fairs in new york. instead of attempting actual
coverage of the event, they just decided to do a parody. i didnt even notice
that galileo played at the beginning, but im not surprised--mtv used shame on
you as background music a couple of times last year. its really hypocritical,
but does anyone really expect anything better from mtv? to say that theyve
lost their minds would be to assume that they had minds to begin with.

peace and indigo
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just found out from my daughter (4.5 yrsold) that momma sparkie ( as
dubbed by a listee) was put in the hospital on saturday night.....none
of my 7 siblings who all live there called to let me know... any
way....don't know severity yet, nurses wouldn't help me, even pulled my
medical clout  but it failed. so just asking for a few indigo prayers
for her. lungs and kidneys seem to be compromised with abdominal
blockage. thanks all....sparkie who is a little sad right now...

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subject:      ticket for minneapolis suffragette...

i  have an extra ticket to the minneapolis show on friday, august 28.
does anyone want to buy it?
the ticket was $24 with tm fees, but i'll take $20.
let me know.
thanks!
jami
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in a message dated 98-08-03 11:52:40 edt, biodb8er@rocketmail.com writes:

<<
is that what lesbian ig listeners are supposed to be
doing?  talking about their thiness and what they
eat? >>


i'm a lesbian and i'm sure as hell not doing that!   unfortunately, there are
people out there that think because a group of women get together all they do
is talk about their weight and so-called "other girlie things".  what ever
that might be.   i haven't seen the spot everyone is talking about, but from
what i've heard from you all, i'm not impressed.

lynn   :-)    <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
tahmehawk's place</a>

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date:         mon, 3 aug 1998 12:53:44 edt
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   hey guys! so... last week when i was in mexico... yeah, that's right
mexico. jealous? = ) anyway, i was listening to strange fire on the beach and
i was thinking that make it easier doesn't really sound like an emily song and
you left it up to me really doesn't sound like an amy song. ya know? it seems
like they should be the other way around. make it easier sound more amy-ish
and you left it up to me definitely sounds more emily. both great songs
though! i dunno... anyone agree? let me know. also, does anyone think any
other amy songs sound emily or emily songs sound amy? try to say that three
times fast!  well, i'll stop wasting bandwidth.
                                              --katy

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just wondering if anyone's got a boot of this performance or any other
where amy covers stevie/fleetwood mac.
thanks,
lee.

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date:         mon, 3 aug 1998 14:22:13 -0500
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just talked to mom....known in our home as makko, anyway should go home
in a couple of days...doing better, got her first cup of coffee....to
quote another of her  favorites andmine...dar...straight black

thanks for the concern, wishes and prayers.....
sparkie..

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date:         mon, 3 aug 1998 16:47:37 -0400
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hey everyone!

i think that "make it easier" is perhaps a little more "upbeat" and
"driving" than many emily songs, which is more common for amy songs...  so
i can see how you might think that it seems like an amy song.  also,
wasn't it about that time, and earlier, that emily wrote some songs that
the says mimicked amy's style. not that she was being a lazy cheat, but
that she liked what amy was doin' and wanted to capture that same
feeling/style in her songs...  but, she realized she didn't like her
version of writing amy-like songs... high horse, for example... now,
however, i'd say, she's resolved that problem, and definitely has come
into her own style of fast, driving, jamming songs (like it's alright, and
caramia <that's not necessarily fast, but it jams, at least i think
so...>)  sorry, that got a little off track...

as far as "you left it up to me," i think it totally sounds like an amy
song!  yeah, emily is known for being more subdued and doing more
ballad-y, love songs, but i think you can definitely tell this is amy.
the way she "tells the story" is very amy, reminiscent of keeper of my
heart.  and the whole tone/feel of the song reminds me very much of
the beauty and simplicity (and beautiful simplicity) of "chiapas bound" or
i should say that "cb" reminds me of "yliutm"...

that's just my opinion...

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand-a.r.

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date:         mon, 3 aug 1998 16:01:16 -0500
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anyone know th e weather in pennsylvania for the next few days.driving
from phoenix to tulsa to pennsylvania (newcastle) on
wednesday/thursday..curious about the driving
conditions..thanks...sparkie

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date:         mon, 3 aug 1998 17:15:53 -0400
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hkf's,

i was just wondering if anyone had an extra (or 2) tix for the ig (8/5) show
in atlanta at the roxy???  i would be soooooooo happy if someone would be a
kind soul and help me out for this show!!!  (besides the cost of the tix's,
i will offer either pleasant conversation or my little sister as payment)
8-)

thanks,
mike

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and a lifetime of fears."-amy ray

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just sending out a desperate plea for two tickets to the newport folk
festival on sunday - my friend accidentally got tickets for another
newport festival, and sunday is sold out.  i would be willing to pay a
slight premium if necessary, maybe even a dinner out at newport for the
kind soul...
:)
mc

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august 4, 1988 -- the atlanta journal constitution

indigo girls parlay pub persona into contract with major label

by gerry yandel

two records, countless shows at little five points pub, benefits for the
homeless and four years after the first gig, atlanta's indigo girls are
knocking on the door of national success.

the songwriting team of amy ray and emily saliers has gathered a loyal,
almost fanatic, following in local clubs. the indigo girls soon will find
out if the rest of the country is ready for their mellow folk-rock. miss
saliers and miss ray have signed a recording contract with epic records, a
division of cbs records, and their lawyer, russell carter, said it is an
"extremely good deal for a new artist."

mr. carter, who also has negotiated contracts for rock bands guadalcanal
diary, robyn hitchcock and timbuk 3, declined to give details of the contract.

"it's more than just decent," he said. "a lot of companies were interested
in them, and cbs understands they've signed a very important act."

roger klein, the epic representative who signed them, has high hopes for the
indigo girls and his praise for them includes references to music stars such
as bob dylan and bruce springsteen.

"i think they're awesome," said mr. klein, who ran the roxy in los angeles
for seven years. "their music is so full of emotion, imagine what they're
going to be doing in three or four years. every label on the earth could go
out and find two girl folk singers and they wouldn't be anything like
[indigo girls]."

for the two emory university graduates, who've been singing together since
the sixth grade, the signing marks a musical milestone they both felt was
somewhere in their future.

only a year ago they expressed hope of signing a deal with a "major indy" -
a big independent record label.

instead they've ended up in a contract with a "major major."

but, in typical indigo fashion, their excitement about the contract is tempered.

"basically, they're lending us a whole bunch of money and we try to make it
back for them," miss saliers said. "getting a record deal is a very vague
thing to me. we'll start doing bigger tours but i really don't know what's
going to happen."

one thing that has to happen is a record. the indigo girls expect to have
their first epic release out next spring.

and from there?

"we'll still be the same old neighborhood gals," miss saliers said. "i'll be
driving my beat-up toyota forever. i like my life a lot, and i don't want
any major changes."

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rent a boat!
seriously - you can get a fairly good view (not obstructed, just waay back )
view of the stage...you could even put one of those 18:1 vhs-c video cameras
..umm..i meant binoculars <g> and tape ani dar aznd the ig!

honestly the scalpers will easily get $100 a ticket - they do every year! it
can't be that much to rent (or bring a boat - any listee's with one?) or
bring an inflatible raft (wear life jackets folks!)

course you could try 2 day tickets???

mike r.

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okay okay, so hearing amy and emily sing anything makes me melt, and i know
this is an old thread, but i thought of two songs i'd love to hear them do...
black magic woman - santana ( how about just amy doing this one? ::swoon:: )
and
comfortably numb - pink floyd  - i think the harmonies on this one would be so
damn cool!

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hey folks,

val said:
> okay okay, so hearing amy and emily sing anything makes me melt, and i know
> this is an old thread, but i thought of two songs i'd love to hear them do...
> black magic woman - santana ( how about just amy doing this one? ::swoon:: )

back to fleetwood mac again... "black magic woman" is
actually a fleetwood mac song (covered by santana) from
the late 60s, when fm were still an all-male blues band.

amy *would* rock though. :)

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val wrote:
comfortably numb - pink floyd

hell yeah! that would rock!!! :)

lamia


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heya folks!

okay i was feeling ambitious and so i typed up the ln interview with
amy and the performing songwriter interview with (he he my new
notation for the girls) today and have posted them on my website for
those of yall who don't like taking trips to the bookstore. :)
the ln interview:
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/frontrow/8979/special/ln.htm
the ps interview:
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/frontrow/8979/special/ps.htm

they're linked together so you can go through one and link to the
other one when you're done.  since the urls are kind of long.

oh yeah, and if you're still tossing round that cover thread, he he
how bout if they cover that song in the scooby doo "creeper" episode,
"i'm in love with an ostrich" or something.  :d

lori ann (a scooby doo fan as well as an fan)
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hey, everyone!
so there i was at work today when a co-worker came across a marketing survey
which happened to have been filled in by a person named "sara lee".  everyone
thought this was hysterical, and could not believe that this could really be
someone's name...  of course, while they're all snickering over snack cakes,
my indigo-happy brain is going into the pennywhistle bit of "closer to
fine"!!!
;-)
terri

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looking for:
anita bost-smulyan (i need your email addy)
katy ashton (i need your email addy)
lori ann saeki (i need your hometown)
melissa gordon (i need your hometown)

thanks,
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now here's a song for amy and emily to sing that stevie did a great job with:
leather and lace.

take care,
leslie

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okay,,,for those of you without web access, here is the lesbiannews
interview with amy. i'll post the performing songwriter one when i
figure out what the heck i did with it.

lori ann (giddy over getting a letter from the great sherlyn!)

indigo girls: the politics of amy ray
by heidi hudson


calling from a studio rehearsal before she starts out on lilith fair
'98, amy ray takes some time out of one of her very busy days to speak
to the lesbian news about politics, music, and lilith.

ln: i was reading a few weeks ago that you offered to do some high
school shows in the south but they did not go as well as you planned.
three out of five were canceled. were you and emily surprised at the
response you had?

ar: yeah. because what happened is we decided to go as an experiment,
to play five high school shows during the day with 30 minute shows and
30 minute question and answer periods to just talk about music and the
arts and how to get involved in music and support kids who are trying
to get something going with their own creativity. it wasn't tied to
anything political. it was strictly, well i guess everything is
political, but it was strictly to do with the arts so to do that we
had to pass a lot of obvious scrutiny from school boards to begin with
who read our lyrics and discussed whether or not we were appropriate.
they all thought we were and then three out of the five shows were
canceled. it was kind of a domino effect, as soon as one person
started questioning it, some other schools and parents, it was a
minority of parents that called in and created this whole crazy
scenario, but in the end the studenst made a good thing out of a bad
thing. they really responded. they staged walk outs and protests and
we held alternate shows after school for all ages with preferences
given to high school students. people showed up and it was a very
positive experience. it was a good reminder that there is still a lot
of work to be done. as soon as you think you are in a comfort zone,
you realize that things still nedd to be worked on and you still need
to speak out.

ln: the two shows that did occur at the high schools--how did those go?

ar: they were great. kids were totally into it and those that asked
questions, we had a really good dialog and it was really fun.

ln: what is it like touring outside the us?

ar: we used to tour a lot more outside the us but this year we'll only
be doing canadian dates but no uk, europe, or east asia. we love
touring outside the us but we have very small cult followings and for
those reasons it's a completely different experience but its really
rich because you could easily play in small places. it takes you back
to your beginning of your time here. it's cool. it's not something
that we feel we want to develop a massive career in the world. it's a
lot of ground to cover. i think we just feel like we want to play
places and enjoy music for what it is and not be over-ambitious and
conquer the whole world. it's a little unrealistic for us.

ln: do you have a favorite place you like to tour in or outside the us?

ar: (laughs) that's a hard one. we really love everywhere. this year
the place that stood out for us pretty well was the northwest of the
us. we've been playing the northwest for a long time, even early on in
our career for at least 10 years. there was something about it this
year that was very animated for us in the northwest, there was a
obvious energy and that was great. we also went to australia this year
and we had a blast.

ln: both of you are deeply involved in so many political and social
causes. the internet is inundated with information about the causes
you champion. is there a particular cause that is especially near and
dear to your heart?

ar: everything we're involved with is very significant to us. nothing
takes precedence over anything else but they all exist under an
umbrella or a basic approach. i think if you look at sexism,
homophobia, racism, intolerance, and environmental devastation, i
believe all those things are tied together. i believe the connections
are pretty obvious. the world is becoming based on this idea of
"neorevolutionism" and global economy, where everything becomes money
and profit motivated. and corporations, transnational corporations,
have more power than the government and the government being the
people. there's not the same sense of community anymore, and the
differences being the diversity being our strength. it's much more
homogenized. i think when the corporations have so much control a lot
of disenfranchisement happens very naturally, as well as environmental
disasters and racism. to me these connections are so obvious that i
try to work on a lot of different perspectives. what i consider to be
the same issue, which is fighting the corporate structure in general,
and trying to retain some sense of community and sense of statehood
that's not based on money but on people.

ln: have you thought of putting together a documentary more focused on
all your causes and social issues?

ar: we did this project called honor the earth, which is an
environmental activist coalition of indigenous people, that we grant
money to people doing environmental activism. we do a tour that
usually lasts about a month-- we go into different areas and focus on
regional environmental concerns within indian communities and we
documented the last tour we did pretty fully. we are going to release
at some point that documentary. it won't be focused on us. it will be
focusing on very specific issues. that's the closest we've gotten. we
really try to take the focus away from us and put it on the issues or
what people need to be aware of rather than making it some rock stars
blindly leading people into something that they know nothing about
because we all have to learn. the way we can learn is by having it
brought to our attention and then by listening to what the people say
in the communities themselves, rather than trying to speak for them.

ln: let's talk about your current album, shaming of the sun, one of
the most progressive albums you've produced to date. do you agree?

ar: in the past we have pretty much co-produced all along but not to
the degree that we did with this one. emily and i both wanted to be in
charge of this. we wanted to work with someone who's willing to let us
be in charge and give us their input but we wanted to feel the bulk of
the responsibility. it's hard. honestly, we loved the people that we
worked with in the past. i've missed them sometimes, but it's intense
especially at the end of the day when you are tired. and it's your
responsibility. you have to work on it more. that was something to get
used to when you felt kind of tired of listening to something. you
couldin't turn around to your producer and say, "will you listen to
this for a while? i want to take a break!" (laughs) emily and i
started depending on each other more, which is good for us for giving
each other breaks. it probably has been one of the best processes
we've been through in a while with our relationship, our musical
relationship, how to work with each other. it really forced us to be
in the same room together after being off for a long time. we hadn't
seen much of each other in a year. it was good. it really built us
back up. it got us used to working with each other again. for the next
record we may decide to have a producer and co-produce with someone
who's really in charge.

ln: do you have any favorite tracks off this album?

ar: hmmmm...

ln: well how about if i ask you about one of my favorite tracks, don't
give that girl a gun"?

ar: it's sort of a break-up song basically. but i always, obviously,
was tipping my hat to the gun control movement too! (laughs) i like to
do that, mix up my personal songs about personal life with political
issues. they're metaphors a lot of times for each other. it's this
idea of two people that both maybe treated a love with less respect
than they should have--you are kind of hoping for a repair but you
know there's not going to be one--that's what it's about. it's not
about a one-sided "you did me wrong" or "i did you wrong". it's more
of this idea of love you should respect. whether you stay together or
not you should be respectful of it. that's what i was thinking about
when i wrote it.

ln: will you be playing a lot of songs from sots at lilith or will you
be mixing up your set for each show?

ar: there will probably be a few songs that we tend to play a lot, but
for the most part it will be a different set every night, and we'll
probably rotates songs in and out. it's hard. it's a pretty short set.

ln: are you excited to do lilith again?

ar: yeah! we love lilith.

ln: what were some of your faorite moments from last year's tour?

ar: hmmmm....my favorite moments musically were when we participated
with everybody else and had other people play with us and we played
with other people. we jammed in the dressing rooms. there was also the
press conferences at every show last year. at each press conference
they would give a check from that day's show where $1 from each ticket
went to that organization. that was amazing. it made you feel like
there was something good going on that was more than the music.

ln: everytime i've spoken with sarah mclachlan or attended her press
conferences, i have to say that she has always mentioned and thanked
the indigo girls for giving lilith that summer camp feel. what's your
secret?

ar: the thing is anytime you are dealing with a festival tour, if it's
a similar group of people traveling from one place to another, at some
point everybody is going to get kind of sick of playing their own
thing and they're going to want to play with other people. to me it's
a natural evolution. you're with about fifty other incredible
musicians and at some point it's going to occur to you that you ought
to be using them and you ought to be sharing something. there's no big
secret to it. to me it's just a matter of doing it. a lot of people
feel precious on having their set being very isolated and
choreographed and they don't feel comfortable bringing other things
into it, and that's cool. that's their prerogative. i think the secret
is to be willing to let your defensives down a little bit and to take
a chance to know that some night may not go so well. they may not be
perfect, but the audience likes it. it gets old to see people play
things over and over again. now that's the way i feel about it. other
people don't agree with me.

ln: wasn't it true that in the first week of lilith last year you and
emily went around pounding on people's doors to get people together?

ar: you have to ask people to do things. our thing was that we have
different songs that we thought this person or that person would sound
good on. we would just go ask them. the secret is to just do it. they
would either say yes or no. it's easy to get people to play during our
set. the trick is, are other people going to let us play during their
sets? it's always our set where we're doing the jamming. i'd like to
see other people jam during their set. sarah did have everybody up
during the end of her set, which is totally cool, and shawn colvin did
a song with two other people. it was really starting to loosen up and
cross polinate--that's the stuff. that's what makes it worth it. if
it's just a bunch of people playing one set after another, to me
there's nothing that special about it.

ln: one of your best shows i've seen was your recent la show where you
had many guest artists (vonda shepard, jackson browne, michelle
malone, kristin hall, ani difranco, etc) come on stage and jam with you.

ar: it probably was a little overboard but it was a lot of fun!

ln: how did that come about?

ar: some people just come to see us. there would be friends of ours
who showed up backstage and we would be like, "you want to play
tonight?" it ended up being all these people we knew on the guest
list. we just found them and said, "let's do this, let's do
that"--there was a very small amount of prep time. we probably only
went through each song one time. we would be sitting there with
matthew sweet, then kristin hall would walk in the room, then jackson
browne came in...it just built backstage. you have to have time
beforehand and write lyrics out, it's a little rushed. it's very fun.
some people think we shouldn't do that because it messes with the
momentum of the show and it's not very professional. we just don't
feel like that.

ln: what are your plans after lilith?

ar: we will do the michigan women's music festival, newport folk
festival, and a benefit for the gay and lesbian task force and a
benefit for a migrant farmers organization in the south called floc
and another zapatista benefit. then we'll end the year with an east
coast rock club tour called the "rolling thunderpussy revue" which is
going to be a bunch of women from different bands all playing
together, doing each other's songs, but playing ensemble.

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---------------------------------------------------------------
> indigo girls--1500 curfews and counting
>
> performing songwriter, volume 6, issue 31, july/august 1998
> by russell hall
>
> in an era when stadium tours, corporate sponsorships, and lavish stage
> sets are the norm for most major rock
> acts, the indigo girls are something of an anomaly. despite a 16-year
> career that's included six grammy
> nominations, multi-platinum albums ales, and near-universal critical
> acclaim, the duo remains known foremost for
> their intense fan following and a fierce allegiance to various social
> and political causes. having logged nearly
> 1500 shows since their performing career began in the early 80s
(perhaps
> their 1995 live album 1200 curfews
> should be renamed each year), the indigo girls' musical journey has
been
> characterized by a work ethic and a
> sense of mission that's increasingly rare among their peers.
>
> although amy ray and emily saliers met in elementary school, they
didn't
> start playing music together until they
> became teenagers. even at that young age, their differences--both
> musically and temperamentally--were readily
> evident. the daughter of an atlanta radiologist and a homemaker, ray
was
> the more extroverted of the two--not
> surprisingly, she gravitated toward post-punk bands like the
> replacements. saliers, on the other hand, was quiet
> and studious (her parents were professors), and her tastes ran
> accordingly toward singer-songwriters such as
> joni mitchell.
>
> when the two joined forces with their acoustic guitars, they quickly
> discovered that their differences in personality
> and musical preferences coalesced into something musically magical.
>
> although amy and emily performed at high school events and pta
meetings,
> it wasn't until college that their
> musical career began to take shape. using the moniker saliers and ray,
> the two found time between their studies
> at emory university to perform regularly at nearby coffeehouses and
> small bars and had begun to attract a small
> legion of fans by graduation. changing their name to the indigo girls,
> the duo became associated with several
> local clubs and eventually focused their attention on atlanta's little
> five points pub, where the pair quickly
> attracted a loyal following as the night club's unofficial house band.
>
> in 1985, the indigo girls began releasing a small but steady stream of
> material on their own label, indigo records.
> first came a single ("crazy game"), followed by a six song ep (indigo
> girls), and finally a full-length album
> entitled strange fire. by this time, ray and saliers counted among
their
> fans such musical luminaries as rem's
> michael stipe and highly regarded athens producer, john keane (who
> oversaw the recording of their debut
> album). strange fire sold approximately 5000 copies--a substantial
> figure by do-it-yourself standards--and in the
> wake of the release the indigo girls toured additional cities and
> garnered college radio play throughout the
> southeast.
>
> in the midst of this burgeoning attention, major label executives soon
> came calling, and the duo signed to epic
> records in 1988. the indigo girls first album for the label--entitled
> simply indigo girls--peaked at #22 on the
> billboard charts, with the saliers-penned single "closer to fine"
> reaching #52. recognizing their potential as
> major new artists, epic arranged for the pair to serve as a supporting
> act for both rem and neil young. capping a
> spectacular year, the grammy committee nominated the indigo girls for
> the category best new artist, and a
> grammy was awarded them for best contemporary folk recording.
>
> in the years since this auspicious beginning, the indigo girls have
> released six full-length albums, and each has
> displayed steady musical growth within the framework of firmly rooted
> folk-pop traditions. equally as impressive,
> the two have managed to align their music with a political and social
> agenda that seeks to protect the
> environment, remedy social injustice, and promote tolerance.
>
> earlier this year, ray and saliers were embroiled in a controversy in
> which administrators at three high schools
> prevented them from performing as part of a series of free shows for
> students. citing the duo's sexual orientation
> and a so-called "objectionable" lyric in one song, the powers-that-be
> forced the pair to utilize alternative venues in
> two of the three cities. ray however, managed to display her usual
> optimism by finding something hopeful in what
> could be viewed as a contemptible situation: "the kids made it
positive.
> there have been boycotts and walkouts,
> and some of them were suspended for longer than they were originally
> told they would be. the aclu in south
> carolina is stepping in and defending some of the children. they
became
> serious activists about it."
>
> as ray and saliers prepared for a stint on this summer's lilith fair
> tour (last year they were cited by lilith founder
> sarah mclachlan as prime contributors to the project's success), both
> took time to talk with performing
> songwriter about their history, activism, and their songwriting.
>
> amy
>
> ps: you and emily began playing music together in high school. looking
> back to those days, did you approach
> the guitar differently from one another even then?
>
> ar: yes, that's always been true, and it's really probably more a
result
> of my weaknesses than anything else.
> emily's musical abilities far surpassed mine then--and still do--in
> technical virtuosity and in regard to being a
> natural guitar player. my approach to the guitar was very
utilitarian. i
> was like, "i want to play this song, so i'm
> gonna learn these chords and strum". i didn't practice that much,
and i
> really felt (the guitar) was more an
> extension of my body in a rhythmic sort of way rather than in a lead
> way.
>
> and it was the same way with my approach to songs. at first, i had a
> hard time learning how to sing harmony, so i
> sang counter-melodies. i was much more gruff than emily about
> everything, so even then we were definitely
> polarized. i think a lot of our style comes from playing up our
> strengths and our weaknesses, or rather from
> turning our weaknesses into strengths.
>
> but i would also say that back in high school our musical tastes were
> slightly more similar than they are now. we
> loved to do cover songs by people like elton john and neil young,
> although we tried to find the most obscure
> songs rather than cover the big hits.
>
> ps: who else did you listen to while you wre growing up?
>
> ar: mostly i listened to albums my sister had: the jefferson airplane
> and strawberry alarm clock...a lot of sixties
> and early seventies psychedelic music. i also liked neil young, james
> taylor, and crosby, stills, nash, & young.
> but then at a certain point i heard patti smith, the replacements,
lloyd
> cole and the commotions, aztec
> camera, the clash, and the sex pistols. when i heard those types of
> bands, everything turned inside out for me
> in a way that was really good. it was a feeling of, "oh, this is what
> i've been waiting for". the post-punk bands
> really liberated me in a sense. whenever i go back to things i
listened
> to before then, i just can't even relate to it.
> there are a few exceptions, like james taylor and neil young, who i
can
> still relate to as a writer. but as emily
> and i started doing more original music, that's when the differences
in
> our influences started to become more
> obvious.
>
> ps: is it true that early on you and emily focused on performing at
> alternative-rock clubs rather than in
> coffeehouses and folk clubs?
>
> ar: yes, because we were loud even back then. we were kind of raucous,
> and we liked to jam and turn our
> guitars up. back then the tradition in folk was that your voice was
> always louder than your guitar, but we liked the
> idea of mixing the guitar up as loud as the voice. there were a lot of
> things about us that didn't fit in with
> coffeehouses very well.
>
> so we wanted to play the rock clubs or places that were once punk
clubs
> which had become alternative clubs.
> also the college students were there, and our friends hung out there,
> and that's where the bands we liked tended
> to play. i would call up these places and tell them we would play a
> couple of shows for free if they would just give
> us a chance. they'd say things like, "well i don't know about acoustic
> stuff," but usually they would give in and let
> us try. and it almost always worked out.
>
> ps: the two of you signed with epic in 1988. that must have been an
> exciting time, but you've also said that you
> became a bit depressed afterwards.
>
> ar: yes. it was a situation where we had this thing going--managing
> ourselves, booking ourselves, that kind of
> stuff--and, when we let go of all that, we were excited at first
because
> we had been working so hard. we were
> tired and thought, "oh good, someone's going to share the load". but
> then we took a step back and thought, "oh
> shit, did we just give up something we shouldn't have--the control,
our
> independence, our autonomy?" but the
> reality is that epic has been very supportive of us all along, in both
> our political agenda and our creative freedom.
> it's been an asset to have them, and it's really freed us up to do
other
> things with our time. it's kind of a give-and-
> take thing.
>
> ps: since you had a strong core following as indie artists, was there
> any concern that your fans might feel
> resentful, that they might feel like they were losing their "pocket"
> band?
>
> ar: our fans aren't like that, and they weren't like that at the
time. i
> think that's because we were very obvious
> about not changing. we stayed in atlanta, we toured in a van for the
> first year, and we played and recorded songs
> they were familiar with. and we didn't change our sound drastically. i
> think our audience, in general, has been
> very supportive of what we do, and we're lucky for that.
>
> ps: almost every indigo girls album has featured lots of stellar
guests.
> many of these musicians aren't known for
> sharing their services very often. what's your secret for persuading
> them to contribute?
>
> ar: we just ask. (laughs) i think it's because we love playing music.
> and whenever we ask someone to play with
> us, it's because we want them to do their thing and not because we
want
> to dictate what they're going to do. i
> think people appreciate that, but i also think people just like to
play.
> whenever we know people in a town we're
> playing, we always ask them to join us onstage. it's a tradition with
> us, and i think people enjoy that, because it's
> not something that happens a lot anymore.
>
> and when we ask people to play on our records, i think that in the
> spirit of that, they agree. most of these people
> have a certain approach to music--a certain open-mindedness--that
makes
> it seem not far-fetched for them to sit
> in with people. steve earle is a good example of that, of someone who
> loves music and loves participating and
> engaging with people.
>
> ps: your experience with the lilith fair tour was also an example of
> that. sarah mclachlan recently said
> something to the effect that the participants were tentative with each
> other until you and emily came on board,
> and that you got everyone to let their guard down. that must have been
> gratifying.
>
> ar: it was. it's gratifying for sarah to recognize us in general. when
> you're on a tour like that, in some ways you
> just feel at some point people are going to get bored with themselves
> and will evolve and start playing with each
> other. (laughs) just naturally, i mean, whether we're there to
instigate
> it or not. but in another way, that is what we
> do. we're instigators. we'll go into a festival environment and try to
> get people to play together, because that's
> what we feel should be happening. that rubs some people the wrong way,
> but most people like it. we're not trying
> to be pushy about it. we're just saying, "look, you guys. there's a
> wealth of talent here. let's share and play
> together."
>
> i also think in some ways we're irreverent about that sort of thing.
> we're not afraid to make mistakes onstage, and
> we're not worried that our set is going to be messed up or something.
> we're not precious, and i think that sense of
> looseness is what brought people out of their shells. with a tour like
> lilith, it's hard because it's so big. when you
> look at the number of people there and consider what it could do for
> your career--if you look at just that--you might
> tend to get nervous and not be willing to take risks. but for us, it's
> not worth playing if you're not going to take
> risks.
>
> [insert: amy's required listening.
>
>   1.rage against the machine--evil empire
>   2.elliot smith--elliot smith
>   3.the replacements--let it be
>   4.smoke--another reason to fast
>   5.patti smith--horses
>   6.any of the rock*a*teens albums]
>
> ps: as writers, you and emily have an unusual working relationship in
> that you don't collaborate. do each of you
> always finish a particular song before showing it to the other?
>
> ar: pretty much. every now and then one of us will ask for help with a
> line. emily might say something like, "i
> have this extra section, and i don't know whether to make it a bridge,
> or an introduction, or an ending," and i'll
> give an opinion. but that's pretty rare. we usually finish our songs
> independently, although we sometimes hear
> each other working on stuff, maybe in soundcheck or in the dressing
room
> or something. so we might give each
> other advice if asked, but it's pretty much a lone process for each of
> us.
>
> ps: have either of you ever contemplated doing a solo album?
>
> ar: i think we both think about doing solo projects, not as a major
> release or anything, but maybe just for fun. we
> both jam with other people, and we have fun sitting in with other
> musicians. neither of us has a sense of being
> threatened by what the other one does, we do have a kind of freedom to
> come and go. i think that's because our
> musical relationship is so intact and because we both feel that the
sum
> of that relationship is better than the parts.
>
> ps: let's talk about some of the causes you and emily have championed.
> you must get approached by
> organizations all the time. how do you go about determining which ones
> to support?
>
> ar: we work with a lot of activists, and it has mostly to do with
> disenfranchised communities or issues that have
> come about because of the basic corporate structure of the united
> states. the fact that multi-national
> corporations are in charge of things at this point is pretty scary.
they
> have more money than the government.
> these issues have to do with everything from pro-choice advocacy to
gun
> control to environmental issues. it's
> those issues noam chomsky talks about: how manifest destiny created
all
> this disenfranchisement.
>
> we're all fighting the same enemy. the global economy is killing us
> (with) nafta, gatt, and so on. so a lot of
> things we do stem from an attitude of trying to spread out and help
> communities. and one of the most important
> things is we don't go in someone's movement and tell them how to run
> things. we try to support what they're
> already doing. that's the nature of grassroots activism: to support
and
> give voice to people who are trying to
> change things in their own communities.
>
> our involvement in native american activism is a good example. we
have a
> campaign called honor the earth in
> which we fund indigenous environmental groups. native americans within
> their own communities make all the
> decisions about how the funding is used. we don't have anything to do
> with these decisions, we just give them the
> money. and that's kind of the model for how we do other things. we
tend
> to work with small groups in which we
> can see the direct results of what they're doing, and with groups
which
> don't have a lot of administrative or
> bureaucratic costs.
>
> ps: has your involvement in these issues tended to make you more
> optimistic or more pessimistic?
>
> ar: i feel optimistic. i feel inspired by certain groups we work with.
> we funded a group that's part of the
> zapatistas--in chiapas, mexico--and just seeing their discipline, and
> how they've become politicized within their
> own communities, and how they've done things for themselves is
extremely
> inspiring. they're so big-hearted and
> so hopeful. and they have so much grace, which is really hard to find.
> seeing that in someone else can teach you
> a lot, and then you can come back to your own struggle and bring what
> you've learned to the gay community or to
> environmental issues.
>
> ps: are there instances in which you and emily disagree about social
> issues or about what direction you activism
> should take?
>
> ar: we don't disagree about activism too much any more. i used to be a
> lot more outspoken than she was, and
> now we're about the same in that regard. and we don't disagree about
our
> approach to politics. but sometimes we
> do disagree about business matters. i tend to be more radical than
emily
> about those types of things, but at the
> same time, i'm principled to a fault, and her viewpoint is often much
> more valid. and sometimes we have
> disagreements about music, about who we're going to hire or who's in
the
> band. we're so different from each
> other, you can pretty much count on us taking opposite views on lots
of
> things other than general values.
>
> ps: in what ways has your association with various types of cultures
had
> an impact on your music?
>
> ar: it's certainly put us in touch with different types of music. but
> also, in a way that's obvious to me but probably
> subtle to some people, it's given us a sense of freedom. we've seen a
> lot of people who would risk their lives for
> what they're fighting for and who have so much less than us. and that
> triumph of the spirit makes you look at your
> own music kind of differently. you start taking more risks, and you
get
> a sort of feeling of, "what have i got to lose
> in view of the larger scope of the world?" you stop being so precious.
>
> ps: the music industry has gone through lots of changes since you and
> emily started out. do you think things are
> better for women in the industry today as compared to a decade ago?
>
> ar: that's a hard question to answer. it appears there are more
> opportunities, because women are getting more
> airplay. there's lilith fair, and lots of women are really popular.
but
> there's still something that gets to me,
> something that i can't quite put my finger on. it's a sort of a
> ghettoization that goes on. it's as if women are always
> looked upon as a surprising trend. it's never just accepted for what
it
> is.
>
> and also, i really believe the terms that success is based upon are
> still male terms. and i don't think that's the
> fault of women. i don't think all these women are selling out. women
> should have the freedom to do whatever
> they want--to dress how they want and to sing about whatever they want
> to sing about. (but) the parameters of
> success are still dictated by a male sensibility and by what a male
> wants to see in a female. i don't think that's
> changed, although i do think women have more opportunities now. things
> are evolving.
>
>  emily
>
> ps: amy has said her style of songwriting grew partly out of listening
> to post-punk bands when she was very
> young. what types of music did you listen to when you were growing up?
>
> es: my parents had albums by people like the kingston trio and peter,
> paul, and mary, so i was particularly
> drawn to that. and they were also really into jazz and classical
music,
> which i listened to as well. but then, when i
> started buying my own records, the first album i bought was by the
> jackson five. i've always liked soul music and
> rhythm & blues. and then, as i became a more serious
songwriter--when i
> was eighteen or nineteen years old--i
> discovered joni mitchell, and i've listened to her since then. i've
> always been into bob dylan as well. at various
> times in my life i've also listened to heart, the roches, jane
siberry,
> those types of folks.
>
> ps: you and amy began playing together at a very young age. at what
> point did you realize there was an unusual
> chemistry between you?
>
> es: that was a gradual thing. there was never a moment when we said,
> "gee, we should try to make a living
> doing this because we have something really special." it was more a
> situation where we were in the same high
> school, and we were good friends, and we had this thing in common. of
> course there's an endless fascination that
> exists when you're playing music together. there's always another song
> to learn or to arrange. and we started
> preparing repertoires for things such as playing in our english class,
> or pta shows, and eventually open mic
> nights. and we just took it from there.
>
> ps: how would you characterize that chemistry, or how is it related to
> the differences and similarities between you
> and amy?
>
> es: musically we are very different. our influences are different. as
> you say, amy has more of a post-punk
> influence and her music tends to be rawer and more edgy. and she has a
> deeper, more rock'n'roll type of voice.
> on the other hand, my music tends to be more in the singer-songwriter
> vein. joni mitchell would be a bigger
> influence on me, and i also have a higher voice.
>
> and these things are a bit indicative of our personality traits as
well.
> amy is probably more driven and motivated
> and passionate and fiery. we have different personalities, and we like
> to do different things with our time.
> fortunately, these differences have complemented each other and have
> worked to our advantage. it's kind of like
> having two musical lives.
>
> [insert: emily's required listening
>
>   1.tori amos--little earthquakes
>   2.ennio morricone--cinema paradiso: the classic film music of ennio
> morricone
>   3.queen latifah--nature of a sistah
>   4.joni mitchell--hejira
>   5.rage against the machine--evil empire]
>
> ps: when did you come up with the name "indigo girls"?
>
> es: that was around 1984. before then, we had just been going by
saliers
> and ray, but we wanted to come up
> with something that sounded like a band name. amy just flipped through
> the dictionary, looking for ideas, and she
> landed on that word. we talked about it, and we decided to add the
word
> "girls" for alliterative purposes. there's
> no deep meaning behind it. it just sounded good to us.
>
> ps: were you as overtly political in those early days as you are
now, or
> was that something that developed with
> time?
>
> es: we've always been involved in social issues and politics, even
going
> back to when we were very young. we
> did benefits at that time for groups like greenpeace and to support
> local shelters. i suppose epic had no way of
> knowing we would turn out to be as political as we are or that we
would
> marry our music with our politics to the
> extent we have. but we've always had that direction in our lives and
> it's only natural to join it to our music since
> that's what we spend most of our time doing.
>
> ps: when you signed to epic, were there any specific demands or
> assurances you required, in regard to the label
> allowing you to be as outspoken as you wished?
>
> es: from the very beginning we made it clear to the company that, in
our
> case, what you see is what you get. it
> was understood that we weren't into "image", and we weren't going to
be
> told what songs to record. we were
> going to do our own songs, and they would be produced the we wanted
them
> produced. amy and i were able to
> say these things because we had nothing to lose and because we weren't
> hell-bent on getting a major label deal.
> we approached everything with a kind of relaxed attitude, and we had
no
> real expectations about what might
> happen or how many records we would sell. basically, the most
important
> thing to us was to protect the integrity
> we brought to what we were doing musically, and that's exactly what we
> did.
>
> ps: over the years you and amy have been involved with a number of
> social causes and activist policies. lately,
> however, your primary focus has been related to native american
issues.
> can you talk a bit about that?
>
> es: yes. for the sake of being as effective as possible, given the
> amount of time we have, we've sort of honed
> our interests in on indigenous people's issues. they're the true
> environmentalists, it really runs through their
> blood. they don't think of themselves as environmentalists, it's just
> that their way of living takes into account
> future generations and protection of our resources. for traditional
> people, it's like breathing. amy and i feel we
> can learn a lot from that way of thinking. we live in a society that's
> so driven by money and consumerism and
> multi-national corporations there's little respect for any sense of
> balance. that's why we've become so heavily
> involved with indigenous people's issues and rights and land
protection
> issues.
>
> ps: the indigo girls' sound has tended to become more expansive with
> each album. how much of that has to do
> with your travels or with your association with various cultures?
>
> es: it all has to do with our travels. our songs have lots of
references
> to traveling and to places we've been and
> to things associated with being away from home. they have to do with
all
> the people we've come across--native
> american activists and others who've educated us. we met these people
> because we were on the road, and we
> write about things that make us impassioned, things we think about or
> experience.
>
> it becomes a big soup pot of experience. musically, you take a little
> from this area and a little bit from that. as far
> as our bigger sound, that's also happened because we've started
playing
> different instruments in the past couple
> of years. we've played acoustic guitars for so long. i think we both
> wanted to grow and to not stagnate. so amy
> learned some mandolin, and i've focused more on electric guitar and
some
> banjo and piano stuff that gives our
> sound, collectively, a broader spectrum.
>
> ps: how so you go about determining which musicians you want to
bring in
> to play on a particular album?
>
> es: when we get ready to record, a lot of times we'll make a wish
lis of
> people we want to play on the album. and
> sometimes people are recommended to us by producers or other musicians
> or through word of mouth. bringing in
> danny thompson to play bass, for instance--he was someone peter
collins
> suggested to us. peter has
> introduced us to lots of musicians we've worked with along the way.
it's
> really just a matter of asking people if
> they'll do it. and we've been fortunate in that most of the people
we've
> asked have agreed.
>
> ps: what sort of input do the musicians have on the way songs are
> arranged?
>
> es: basically we like for people to come in and do their own thing.
for
> instance, lisa germano came up with a
> really wacky mandolin part on "least complicated" which ended up being
> one of the main hooks in the song. only
> she could've come up with that, at that moment, and that's the sort of
> thing we celebrate and encourage. we don't
> bring musicians in and try to get them to do something that we would
do
> ourselves. we bring them in because we
> like what they do.
>
> ps: which indigo girls album was the most fun to make?
>
> es: they're all fun. they're also a lot of work. the last one was fun,
> but it was also difficult because it was fully
> our responsibility since we decided to produce it ourselves. but we
had
> a good time experimenting. we sort of
> took a "kitchen sink" approach, running from instrument to instrument
> and doing some funky weird things.
>
> ps: sarah mclachlan has said that you and amy helped change the vibe
> during last year's lilith fair tour. what
> was that experience like for you?
>
> es: that was a really generous thing for sarah to say. amy and i are
> like a couple of kids in a candy store when
> we get around other musicians. just to stand there and watch emmylou
> harris, sheryl crow, jewel, and sarah--
> all these great people singing their sets--it just seemed like a great
> opportunity for everyone to get together and
> jam. that's the school of thinking that amy and i are from. when we
were
> growing up in atlanta, everybody
> jammed together and supported one another. there were very few
problems
> with competition or with ego stuff. so
> that's the way amy and i like to experience music. whenever we're
> involved in a festival situation, we're gonna go
> knocking on doors saying, "please come sing with us."
>
> ps: do you think things are any easier today for women in the music
> industry, as compared to how things were
> when you and amy were first starting out?
>
> es: i do think it's easier, and i hope that it's not just a trend. the
> business has been male-dominated for a long
> time, just like most other facets of our society. and there's been
> prejudice in the sense that radio programmers
> wouldn't put a bunch of women artists together in their line-up, and
> promoters didn't want to feature shows with
> more than one woman act on the bill. there have been problems like
that,
> and i think a festival like lilith points up
> this type of ignorance that's existed. but things seem to be changing,
> and that's a really good thing.
>

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when i read the description of the ad  i laughed so hard i almost peed.
can't wait to see it.
does that make me insensitive ???
or am i just in a mood ?

:)
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date:         mon, 3 aug 1998 22:59:35 edt
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hey kind friend....
yes, it is time for me to get serious about the college choice, and these
three areat the top of the list so far, so..... tell me about your school!
your likes/dislikes, best school feature/worst school feature.... in other
words, would you recommend it to a serious, female, non-athletic, singing,
female preppie achiever like me?  let me know!
thank you sooooo much!
leslie

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date:         mon, 3 aug 1998 22:19:22 -0500
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okay peeps....for those who dont already know, ann wilson (of heart) will
*not* be performing on the suffragette tour as previously noted.  it seems
she needs some major down time with her kids and schtuff.

        <sigh>    dammit.    $#%#^&*!@!!!!!!!!!!!!

man, i was really really *really* hoping to hear a collaborative "these
dreams" with the girls.  now *that* would truly be a kickass cover for them
blue gals.  what harmony...

i am truly bummed out now...
back to lurkdom.
--sue

(p.s. just to add my 2 cents and pocket lint to the "ig and cover songs"
thread..."baracuda"!!!!  amy can just wail away on that one)

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date:         mon, 3 aug 1998 20:42:46 pdt
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ok ya'll i have a credit at cdnow so i'm using that as an excuse (like i
need one!) to get a cd! the only problem is...i can't decide..! although
i've been really getting into tori amos lately, i'm thinking either:
k's choice-the great subconcious club or
dar williams-honesty room
i can't decide which..help!!! *l*

lamia

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howdy all,

        you know...it really breaks m'heart to do this.  we had such big plans
for this event.  damn, doncha just hate it when life throws one of those
kick ass-hey you don't control your destiny- curves at you?!!   well,
that's what happened here.

        okay, here's the deal.  i have 2 sets of tickets for both days.  i
would like to sell them as a package.  however, if that isn't a
possibility, i would hope that i could work something out to break them
down and get the single days taken care of (i've noticed these requests
posted)...
        bear with me on this please...  first reply that wants both sets, gets
them.
         if no takers there, i will take the first replies for the one day at a
time tickets.... fair enough?

        the price for both sets is $130.00.
        the price for each individual ticket is $32.50.
        these prices reflect the face value of each ticket.

         obviously, when you see my address you'll understand why there will be
overnight mailing charges added to that cost.

        as i am working 12 hour shifts... i will be checking my mail tuesday
am, tuesday noon, and tuesday evening...
        i should know by tomorrow night who gets what.
        any questions...?  please email me!

        thanks for your time!!
        peace & love
        jules

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hello all...

my name is betty thurber, and i just joined the indigo girls mailing list!  if
anyone can fill me in on slang/terminology/helpful hints, i would be most
appreciative.

as for my personal info, i am an 18 year-old college student (i start
university of georgia in 2 weeks) with a double major in english and business.
i reside in alpharetta, georgia (not far from where amy and emily grew up).  i
am a serious vocal musician, and music is a tremendous part of my life.  i am
a mega-fan of sarah mclachlan, and i belong to her mailing list as well (a
proud fumbler--it's great).  i have seen the indigo girls once in concert, and
i have been a fan for about 6 years.  i also went to lilith fair last week!
;-)  of the two gals, emily is my favorite...but i love amy as well.  oh, as
for my sexual preference--i'm bisexual.

that's a good intro to "me"!  i am looking forward to getting involved with
this list, and i can't wait to hear from y'all!

~betty

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does anyone have extra tickets to newport on sunday?

molly o+

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howdy all,

        sorry to say (for all those that need tickets) i have both sets sold.
i truly wish i could help everyone out, but can't... :(

        thanks to all that replied...and good luck in your search..if i hear of
any i'll post!

        jules

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so one last thing...

if i end up going to both days of the ff, and have to sleep in my car, would i
get in big trouble?

i did this last year on the drive across country for my 3 days of lilith, and
it was cool!  but i slept in the drives seat and now at age 28 my hip hurts
when i get stressed or the weather is odd!  silly me!

and ideas?

babs: who is sorry to waist folks time with all this silliness!

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hey!
it seems as if you can now get lilith info right on aol!  just go to keyword
lilith fair and check it out! it has some cool links as well as some wavs to
download form the lf cd.  "the water is wide" is one of the wavs!  woo hoo

very cool!  babs
(sorry those of you who are not on aol!)

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heart and ig would be like a fantasy show for me!  too bad...would have been great.

toye

"...when you hate me, i can still love you."
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> *not* be performing on the suffragette tour

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isn't it awesome to read something like this and realize they really haven't changed as far as their integrity and lifestyles.  i'm sure there have been some changes, but isn't it refreshing to see how little ig's attitude has stayed even with the success they've been enjoying?

toye

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> august 4, 1988 -- the atlanta journal constitution
>
> indigo girls parlay pub persona into contract with major label
>
> by gerry yandel
>
> two records, countless shows at little five points pub, benefits for the
> homeless and four years after the first gig, atlanta's indigo girls are
> knocking on the door of national success.

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whoa, back the truck up.

when i inquired as to if there was a list meet at newport, i was in no way
volunteering to organize it...i don't know enuff about the nff to be able
to make plans for quite possibly 100+ list members (including their
friends and family).

however, i do know that the last time i went, i spent three hours in the
parking lot waiting to exit the park...maybe we could have a really
kick-butt tailgate party...anyone have any ideas, cuz iam really in the
dark about this one.  we're not even bringin the car into the park this
time, so i can't even volunteer my trunk.

-alanna

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i have to sign off for about 14 days...vacation...not real excited now
...they are taking my mom into surgery today. i do not know the extent o
fit. my twin just told me that there is blockage and several
hernias....kidney still doing badly.they took the other one on my
birthday along with a good deal of the colo. anyway. i'll be on till
about 3 and then i am outa here for a bit.thanks ya'll so much for your
wishes and positive ions. i need em. i will be back.sorry. but hey
...you guys are great.
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hi everyone,

i'm new on the mailing list, and am originally from southern california.
i'm visiting chicago for the month of august, and would like to meet up
with anyone from the mailing list at either the 25th or 26th concert at
the riviera night club.  so, please reply to me as soon as you can...

if you'd like more info on me, here's my homepage:
http://members.tripod.com/~coralee22/index.html

it would be great to chat with other indigo girls' fans!  (i just
recently 'discovered' their music last january and have heard them live
at the lilith fair at the rose bowl this past june.)

reply to: arle@hotmail.com

thanks y'all,
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hkf's,

since no one has piped-up at all about sunday's chiapas benefit at eddie's
attic.  here's my mini-(mainly ig)-review.

before the girls came out (on stage that is), cecila rodriguez, whom a+e met
down in chiapas, spoke passionately about why she was speaking/travelling
all over the us to spread the word on the problems happening in mexico.  and
before her, another woman (who was going to jail b/c of protesting) spoke
about the school of americas in georgia, which in a nut shell is training
foreign soldiers & causing chaos in those foreign countries because of it.
both speakers were very informative & really showed how mexico is so
different than its' neighbor, the us.

anyway, the ig order is close to the following:

nueva senorita, get out the map, gone again, it's alright, ghost, problem
child, thin line.

after nueva, amy & emily were chatting and couldn't decide what to play -
emily said "band meeting!" and eveyone laughed.  they even picked up a set
of guitars, were getting ready to play w/ them & then put them down and
picked up another set of guitars.  it was real funny to see them just play
whatever they wanted.  and, what was even more amazing - was that they had
only two guitars each (i think) and so they (themselves) had to change the
tuning between songs at least twice.  it was just amazing to me to see a&e
tune their own guitars (very quick mind you) after seeing them for the past
5 years just get them handed to them.  (i think they had another discussion
before ghost about what to play - i  heard emily say "ok, i'll play that
damn song again!" - <just kidding on that last part>)

thin line included gerard mchugh & members of big fish ensemble.  the three
new amy songs were so great to hear live (i've only heard gone again
before).  right before gone again emily said: (or maybe before problem
child)- "here's another new song by amy, i don't have any new songs yet, but
hopefully when the next album comes out - i'll have some new songs by then"
laughter from the crowd followed.

the mood was very light, the beer cold, (and the corn was high <oops>) and
the seats scarce - and so it was a great night!  sulli is awesome and of
course so are saliers & ray - the latter of whom i said hello to and am
still recovering from the shock.  (i almost choked on my quesadilla when amy
walked by me earlier that night).

the morale of the story:  don't carry sharp objects or spicy finger foods
when in the same room as amy, or you might hurt yourself.
8-)
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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 10:21:27 -0500
reply-to:     karrie@ncinter.net
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does anyone in this world understand just how *&^%$# bitter i am now????

as a child of the 70's and 80's nothing was making me turn more
cartwheels than the fact the the woman (one whom i admire not only in
voice, but in pride of body, spirit and self-image) ws going to be on
this tour.  i so wanted to hear them sing "bad animals."

now, just ick.

oh well, what else is new...

karrie, who is now going off to 9 hours of selling clothing and wishing
to god she didn't have nothing lese to do all day but think about how
suffragette is going to be a little less.....rockin.


sue kwan wrote:
>
> [sherlyn's note: this is an excerpt of a message which was
> originally sent to the indigo girls mailing list at
> netspace.org.]
>
> okay peeps....for those who dont already know, ann wilson (of heart) will
> *not* be performing on the suffragette tour as previously noted.  it seems
> she needs some major down time with her kids and schtuff.
>
> [...]
>
> --sue
>
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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 11:15:47 ut
reply-to:     marci mclendon <talula1000@classic.msn.com>
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subject:      roxy question

does anyone know who will be opening for and/or playing with the girls
tomorrow night?  also, does everyone else have general admission tix and if
so, what time are you folks planning to start waiting in line?  thanks for any
info!

marci
(who feels so lucky to have just moved to atlanta!)

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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 12:30:43 -0400
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hi y'all,

due to domestic and financial troubles i have to sell my tickets to the
newport folk festival. i have 2 tickets each for saturday and sunday. i'd
like to sell them all together if possible (at my cost, $140.00, if you
can come and get 'em).

the show is 8/8 and 8/9 at fort adams park in newport rhode island,
11:30-6:30 both days.

sat: lyle lovett        sun: dar williams
     allison krauss          katie curtis
     & others                ani difranco
                             indigo girls

i am in southeastern new hampshire, about 1-1/2 hours north of boston.
let's work something out -- it's a great venue, great show, and the
weather's supposed to be awesome! fort adams is right on the ocean (you
can swim if the security guards don't get you). there's lots of great
food, crafty-vendor tents, and free ben & jerry's peace pops. they
allow re-entry so you can come and go with your ticket, and there's always
lots of good people watching opportunities.

please e-mail me asap. i don't want to have to drive down there and cruise
the line to get rid of these tickets.

diana in new hampshire

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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 12:15:42 -0400
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hey all,

well, here's another of those "you know you're obssessed when..."
moments:

i was about to cross the road to go to a coffee shop.  as i was crossing
the road, i was checking out the sandwich board/chalkboard sign on the
sidewalk in front.  i looked and swore it said "indigo <something>..."  i
told my partner who was with me, "wow!  it says indigo!"  and started to
walk faster to read the full board...  as i got closer i saw beneath the
"indigo" it said, "yourself"...  "ok!"  i was thinking now, all ready to
"indigo myself!"  whatever that meant, i didn't care, but i was into it!
:)  then as i finally got to the sidewalk (in real time this took about 6
seconds) i could see the sign better and realized that it actually said
"indulge yourself...enjoy our cakes, cookies, pastries"  or some such
gobblety-gook...  ha! ha!  i was so excited that this sign said indigo...
but, hey, give me a break, i wasn't hallucinating... the letters were a
little smeary and not so well formed, so from a distance, ya know, it
coulda been indigo yourself!!!  you know you all would have signed up
right then and there too! :) :) :) take care, ya little dickenses! :)

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -amy ray

-my life is more than a vision -emily saliers

-i am a problem child/ i've been wild all my days/ all my anger and my
rage/ my senses said it would lead me astray/ i said go, go, go -a.r.

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subject:      michelle malone--this saturday!
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it looks (according to the reader) like the wonderful ms. malone is
playing the halsted street fest in chicago this saturday.  according to
the schedule, she's on the stage at halsted & belmont at 6:00.  yippee!
yippie! who's gonna join me?

also, tina and the b-sides are playing house of blues this weekend...i
think friday...and patty griffin is here at the end of the month!

shelley, who can't believe her luck.

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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 12:58:22 -0700
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i'm off to trek cross country to see our beloved girls at newport and
musikfest. i'll be the girl with a shaved head blowing bubbles and
hanging out with her mom (and drooling over amy). say hi if you find me.
safe travels to all going. see ya there.
-sam

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reply-to:     kristina <andrade@az.com>
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i heard this today on the radio (kism 92.9). the dj played ctf and then
afterwards he said that "...amy ray will be a guest speaker" on a college
tour where the famous speakers will talk about their involvement w/ various
social and political issues. i didn't really perk up and pay attention
until i heard him say amy's name so i'm not sure what he said before that.
he then went on to say that woody harrelson (sp? the guy from cheers) will
be the moderator.

i just called the radio station and the dj said he read about it in a radio
trade paper. he couldn't remember any other names attached to it, but he
must be an ig fan cause he said he'd "drive as far as seattle to attend if
amy ray will be there." :)

does anyone have more information? i've been deleting a lot of mail lately
so i apologize if this has been discussed already.

k.

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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 16:01:52 -0500
reply-to:     "riney, lora lei l." <llriney@saintfrancis.com>
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        i gotta go and pack  and get ready for the road trip. mom not
going into surgery till tomorrow or next day, gotta stabilize her and
all..be back on the 18th. thanks for all your support..love
ya....sparkie

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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 14:14:31 -0700
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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      re: michelle malone--this saturday!
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> it looks (according to the reader) like the wonderful ms. malone is
> playing the halsted street fest in chicago this saturday.  according to
> the schedule, she's on the stage at halsted & belmont at 6:00.  yippee!

i'd strongly suggest double checking this with
the venue.  michelle is playing boston friday night and
then newport ri on sunday.  i'd be surprised if she was going
to fly to chicago to do a show on sat....


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monk@world.std.com          \   /
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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 14:59:13 -0400
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hi y'all!

i accidently dubbed an extra copy of the amy compilation tape and i would
like to trade it for another boot.  if you are interested, please e-mail
me and we can set something up.  oh, and i used a maxell tape in case you
were wondering...

love,
karen :-)

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"i left my home in georgia (illinois/ohio), headed for the
frisco bay . . . 2000 miles i roam, just to make this dock my
and i'm just sittin' on the dock of the bay wastin' time."
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> -----original message-----
> from: riney, lora lei l.
> sent: tuesday, august 04, 1998 4:33 pm
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> subject:
>
[loralei riney]  ** help...i need to unsub and i don't kno whow...quick
need help.....sparkie

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sorry about the nigc, but would any kind friend happen to know anything =
about the shawnee peak folk festival that is taking place in bridgton, =
me a few days before the suffragette tour lands in portland? how much =
tickets are, exactly when it is taking place, etc...better yet, does a =
web page exist for this festival? i'm thinking i'd like to see rory =
block and patty larkin and then swing over to portland to catch ig, with =
a couple of days of camping in between..

thanks for any info anyone can throw at me,

tracey=20

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in a message dated 8/3/98 8:15:40 pm, kidfrrs123@aol.com wrote:

<<so there i was at work today when a co-worker came across a marketing survey
which happened to have been filled in by a person named "sara lee".  >>

another interesting thing similar to this... i work at a hospital in the home
care billing department, and i was keying the new admissions to home care and
the name i key in... sarah mclaughlin (spelling....) , i was like woah! ; )
sorry, just had to share that one with you all ; )
-kate

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say i am gonna sign off for a while and it gets relay quiet..
momma sparkie isn't going into surgery till tomorrow now..told her ya
all send positive ions her way///she says "thanks y'all"......have a
great two weeks ...power of two np....great soundtrack...boys on the
side....
sparkie ...slipping away soon..

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greetings to all in the land of indigo!

a few days ago someone posted that michelle malone would be appearing at tt
bears in boston on friday 8/7 with special guests.  does anyone know if the
'special guests' could possibly be amy and emily?  if anyone has info on this
please
let me know so i can try to sell my tickets to the hotel viking show and make
the
drive to boston to catch this.  thanks a lot.

-deb

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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 13:36:20 -0800
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subject:      you know you're obsessed when...

you know you are a hopelessly obsessed ig fan when, while sorting towels
for you employer (i work in retail), you notice some labeled "indigo" and
become enraged because they are really more of an ordinary blue.


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hey folks,

deb said:
>a few days ago someone posted that michelle malone would be appearing at tt

... this might be a good time for me to plug the michelle
malone list, which is a nice quiet little list devoted to
discussion of the music of... well, you know who.

to subscribe, send this command in the body of an email to
majordomo@smoe.org:
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:)
sherlyn
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reply-to:     * barbara * <bcorrice@wam.umd.edu>
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missy karen wrote:
>>i dubbed an extra copy of the amy compilation tape>>

are you referring to that fantabulous, awesome, incredible, wonnerful *problem child* tape made by
that famous & talented director, *pam*  who hails from texas?  luv,  power bar


peace + love,
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just to clear a few things up..."landslide" was originally on the
"fleetwood mac" record released in 1975. to fmac fans, this is known as
the "white" album.  it also contains "say you love me" and "rhiannon"
which were also huge hits in the 70's.  and i wouldn't exactly call
someone "old" if they know who peter green is.  i'm a big fan of his and
i'm only in my twenties!  it just depends on how far you go back with
your musical tastes. in any case, the "white" album is a great record
and i highly recommend giving it a listen.

j.m.

>on sun, 2 aug 1998, heidi duncanson wrote:
>
>> you know you're a shall-we-say more "mature" member of this list when
you
>> remember when landslide was originally a hit about 18 years ago, as
opposed to
>> the current remake by the reunited members of fleetwood mac.  and i
think
>> landslide is off of the rumours album.
>
>   you're right -- landslide is from the rumours album.  and i was,
er...1
>year old then.  we'll only call you old if you remember who peter green
>was, and what he had to do with fleetwood mac.  ;)
>
>> p.s.  anybody else think amy would rock out on "go your own way?"
>
>   wowie!  amy - "go your own way", and then the duo singing "silver
>springs", which as any devoted fm fan would know, is stevie nicks's
>response to gyow...  cool...
>
>   darius
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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 13:20:26 -0400
reply-to:     karen jones <kmj5m@virginia.edu>
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hey fellow fans,
just part of my random thought process, but how funny would
it be if amy or emily and read/subscribed to the list.  if
i ever have a list i would definately read it.  think of
the great feedback it would provide.  i just think it must
be funny to know there is a list out there all about your
band. i was just wondering...
karen


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sorry if this has been posted already...is there a differnce between the
red and blue ep's (besides their color...)?

pd

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hello!
      gilly, i'm looking for you!  if you're able to receive e-mail, i need to
talk to you!  is there some place you can be reached while you're here?  i'm
sorry about the confusion, but please find michelle at newport.  she'd like to
talk to you about the martin.  i hope this gets to you, and have fun at the
festival!  peace, love, and happiness, sarah

p. s. if it's easier than e-mail, you can just call me at (770) 908-2246.

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i love lilith
during my band's stint on the tour, all the musicians treated us like a family

by partrice pike

07/30/98

we left austin at 10 p.m. the night before our first lilith show.  we had
found out only a few weeks before that we had been invited to play, and i
think we all had  different expectations about  the tour.  one thing was
sure, though; we were all  excited. some of our favorite artists were on the
leg of the tour we would be joining, and all of us knew it would be
rewarding  in one way or another.

i was hoping that what i had heard from friends who had been on the tour was
true - that there would be an  egalitarian atmosphere and that all the
artists would treat us  as one of the family.  i was in the van having
trouble sleeping, just thinking of being gone for five weeks (including four
weeks of post-lilith fair dates), and hoping we would not only get to see a
lot of people play, but actually collaborate with them musically. i had no
idea how much fun i was going to have.

i met sarah mclachlan at the grammy awards show in february. she was the
most down-to-earth person i met during that crazy "alice in wonderland"
experience. shaking hands with aretha franklin and hugging busta rhymes was
so surreal, but meeting sarah was like talking to an old friend from school,
even though we had never been introduced . that, along with the growth of
the band  and a few coincidences, led up to  sister7's slot on lilith.  we
were headed to oklahoma city to be a part of something fantastic.

upon arriving,  there was a press conference with representatives from each
band.  we  introduced ourselves to each other, and meeting the rest of the
musicians was about the same as my first introduction to sarah.

emily (from the indigo girls) said, "hey, you're from sister 7. i'm emily. i
saw your video and loved it!" me'shell ndegeocello and i talked about
tattoos. n'dea davenport (formally with the brand new heavies) really helped
me out. she had been on lilith a couple of days already and took us under
her wing. she made an  effort to help
me get to know everyone on the tour, enough to be comfortable. also, our old
friend sherri jackson was playing the same dates as we would be. she was out
toughing it without her band, and it made things extra homey to have a
friend playing the tour.

our set was a lot of fun that day, and it was really wonderful to see all
sorts of people (whom we had  been  listening to on records for so long)
actually standing in the audience listening to us.  everyone on tour  was
supportive of all the bands. it was a very uplifting and encouraging
feeling, and it was the beginning of many
new friendships. the highlight of the day for me was singing "midnight train
to georgia" with the indigo girls and n'dea while gabriel (natalie
merchant's guitarist) sat in .

as the tour progressed,  so did the friendships and collaborations. it was
nice to see how they would weave each new performer into the sets on the
main stage. the guys in sister7 were a little shy about sitting in and all,
but they were so supportive about staying late so i could participate. soon
enough, at the end of every night, i got to sing a scat solo  to the marvin
gaye  tune "what's going on." at least one person from every band joined in
every night for that one.

the show in columbus, ohio, was our first experience with any tension on
tour. sarah had fallen ill, and it was unlikely that she would be able to
perform. i had gone out front to see natalie merchant's set since i hadn't
heard it from front-of-house yet. i was sitting in the grass with friends i
had met the day before, and, sure enough, natalie, sinead, me'shell, emily
and amy all came out holding hands to announce the unfortunate news. it was
awesome, however, to be in the audience as i made my way  to the backstage
area. every person that recognized me from sitting  in or playing with
sister7 said, "tell sarah we i love her and we're not mad; tell her we hope
she feels better."

it was a beautiful display of love and an example of how  this tour was
different from some others. this was the first show in 12 years sarah had
missed. the ozzfest  had just been through town a week before, and there was
a riot when ozzy couldn't perform.

i cannot leave out  the fact that lilith fair donates one dollar of every
ticket sold to a charity in the community where the fair is held  . money
went for shelters, breast cancer research, ywcas and many other causes.  the
show in detroit was  our last, and it was special to see the $100,000 check
from volkswagen being presented for
breast cancer research, not to mention the fantastic women who were brought
forward at the press conference to accept the check. they had all climbed
mount mckinley together, which is the highest peak on our continent. some
had survived breast cancer themselves. they presented all of us with a
gift:  prayer-flags  they  had carried up the mountain with them. i carry
mine  on my backpack now everywhere i go. we were all so thankful for that gift.

we in sister7 were all sad to be on our last day of the tour, but it had
been so full of joyous moments. also, it had been more versatile, musically,
than the year before. from urban sounds to the australian all-girl rock band
litany, we had heard myriad melodies.  fortunately sarah was feeling much
better, and everyone was in good
spirits. i finally got a chance to hang out with me'shell ndegeocello.  not
only did i get to see her play, but we walked around the venue eating
snowcones, talking about music, our august birthdays and her son, whom she
missed very much. i couldn't believe it when she was out watching our show
with a smile. natalie merchant
watched the set, and sinead's band almost always came out to listen.

speaking of sinead and her brilliant group of friends she plays with . . .
wow! what an experience. "fire on babylon" was always a moment not to be
missed. her drummer-producer, john reynolds, expressed interest in producing
some sister7 stuff, and we'll be in touch. the rest of her band members are
excellent players, and her
cellist is world class, having been chosen (out of the world's finest
cellists)  to play the part of a famous cellist in a developing movie. the
funniest thing was when we were all teaching sinead a chorus to "closer to
fine."

the last night i got a big surprise when i was  sitting in the audience
watching natalie merchant's set. she was at the end of a brilliant
performance, and, to my surprise, she pulled me up out of the audience as i
was leaving and invited me to sit in with her wonderful band and finish the
song. thanks, natalie!

finally, we all went to the after-party at the hotel in detroit and said our
goodbyes. everyone ate and drank, including bus drivers, booth volunteers,
bands and crews. sinead invited us to a late-night get-together after we all
exchanged phone numbers and stuff. it was a nice feeling to be told by a
group of musicians i respect so much:  "we are all equal here, and we
welcome you." the biggest lesson i learned was to let go of the fear of not
being accepted as a peer in the midst of great people. when everyone gets
together with the sole purpose of lifting each other up, we are all the same
and we can do anything. thanks, lilith.

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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 18:28:00 edt
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carolyn -

10kthanks for that article! that was so cool! you rock!


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peace,
*erica*

"can't you see i've got to live my life the way i feel is right for me,
might not be right for you, but it's right for me.....
i believe this is heaven for no one else but me,
and i'll defend it as long as i can be left here to linger in silence if i
choose to,
would you try to understand?"
-sarah mclachlan,
"elsewhere"
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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 17:47:36 -0600
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hi all! sorry to use up space and valueable time on this but i'm desperate
to know how tall the girls are...especially amy.

plus...

you know you're an obsessed indigo girls fan when you put out this
question on the mailing list in order to mark the wall in your new
apartment telling you how you size up to your heros.

:) thanks y'all...
katy :)
ps...anyone comin' to the milwaukee show? would love to meet ya!

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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 20:13:18 edt
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in a message dated 98-08-02 17:18:54 edt, heidid4660@aol.com write:

<< you know you're a shall-we-say more "mature" member of this list when you
remember when landslide was originally a hit about 18 years ago, as opposed
to
the current remake by the reunited members of fleetwood mac.  and i think
landslide is off of the rumours album.  >>

yeah, really.  i didn't even know that fleetwood mac re-released landslide.  i
remember seeing the special on vh1, which was ok, but nothing beats the winter
and spring of '77, buying the rumours album and listening to it over and over
and over again, reading the rolling stone articles...'77 was a fleetwood mac
year.  i was 15 in '77 :)

as for covers, well, i'd love to see amy doing second hand news --- yeah!!!!!

wmntime

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hiya folkies:

when i met amy this past april (in the holiday inn parking lot, starkville,
ms), i did notice her height, although i could barely utter my name, and she
ended up asking me to repeat myself.  with sexy gray streaks in her hair, our
hero stands (*tall and lean*)  about 5'10.  unfortunately, we were without the
aid of measuring tools, so i had only my own height (i'm 5'5) to gauge hers
with.   she was hunched over, signing my cd booklet thingy, and i might even
call her 5'10 and a half!
        by the way, she signed my sots cd booklet right above her head in the picture
where she and emily are walking in the desert.  it's beautiful displayed on my
mantle!

peace,
summer, who is equally proud of the coffee filter that bears emily's
signature.

". . . and there's not enough room in this world for my pain, signals cross,
and love gets lost, and time past makes it plain. . ."  --the beautiful emily
saliers

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date:         tue, 4 aug 1998 23:13:24 -0400
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>a few days ago someone posted that michelle malone would be appearing at tt
>bears in boston on friday 8/7 with special guests.  does anyone know if the
>'special guests' could possibly be amy and emily?

the headliner for this show is actually a group called chapter in verse.  mm
and a group called slide are also playing, but shorter sets.  i imagine that
it is remotely possible that a & e might show up, since they will be up here
for newport, but i wouldn't count on it, and i definitely wouldn't count on
them playing.  of course, it's not like i have any inside info on this, but
from the way the show is being advertised, it doesn't sound like mm will get
nearly the kind of playing time that we would like for her to.  thus, unless
ig are interested in the other bands, i doubt they make the trip.

you can yell at me if i'm wrong...

va :)

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ha ha..i'm laughing just thinking about this...but you know you're obsessed
when....you see an ig bumpersticker on someone's car...and feel compelled to
leave a note telling them they have good taste in music. yep..that's what i
did tonite walking out of fridays...it's the first ig bumpersticker i've seen
here in cleveland...so i just had to tell them i liked it! well...time to get
ready for bed! :)
peace & music,
jenn

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anyone catch this article?  sorry if it was already posted about.. but they're
in a new england gay/lesbian paper here...something to do with the newport
festival.  i haven't had time to read it yet. if anyone "collects" these types
of things, email me privately and i'll hook you up with one... (:  free
postage and everything.

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sorry for the nigc... check this guy out.
i'll forward y'all his monthly updates if no one objects too terribly
much.

jill


>from: "dbhq" <danbern@gte.net>
>to: dbhq@garden.net
>date: tue, 4 aug 1998 16:59:37 -0700
>subject: bern bulletin 8/04/98
>
>hey bern heads!
>
>here's some new and exciting dan stuff!
>
>it's not exactly "king of the world," but.....
>
>dan is the hotstar of the week, according to pollstar magazine!
>this is an industry magazine, so you might have a hard time
>finding it, which is a shame, as our boy is gracing the cover. but,
>all is not lost... you can all see the on line article at
>http://pollstar.com/hotstar.htm be sure to go soon, as i'm not sure
>how long this will actually stay up.
>
>also, be sure to check out the new guitar world acoustic
>(not to be confused with acoustic guitar, world of acoustic
>guitars,  even yet still more acoustic guitars, or any of the other
>of the myriad of magazines that seem to have identical titles!). in
>issue no. 27 (dave matthews is on the cover), on page 10, dan is
>featured as one of the first stringers.
>
>after days of traveling and months of lies....
>
>the dan bern summer excursion is coming to an end... he's what
>there is left:
>
>8/5 & 8/6      the turning point      piermont, ny      (914) 359-1089
>8/8               heineken roots rave    toronto           (416)
973-3000
>
>here's what the fall looks like so far:
>
>9/05 & 9/06   hog farm pignic      laytonville, ca    (707) 984-8085
>11/12            fillius events barn   clinton, ny         (315)
859-4194
>11/13            the junction            gettysburg, pa   (717)
337-6304
>
>there will be a few more dates to follow... i'll keep you updated!
>
>also, for those of you who were at any of dan's recent tour dates,
>thanks for coming out! the summer tour has been really
>successful, thanks to you folks!
>
>if you were at any of the shows, and had a problem getting the
>merch that you wanted (don't even get me started on the nudnik
>from ups who caused our merchandise shortage!), please visit the
>dan bern headquarters homepage at
>http://home1.gte.net/danbern/index.htm  we have ted the cow, the
>big book, t shirts, and cds that might not have been available
>when you saw dan.
>
>before you run off to paris with the great
>grandson of van gogh....
>
>for all changes in subscription to this list, go to
>http://gate.garden.net:81/guest/remotelistsummary/dbhq  and
>tell all of your friends to go there to join this list as well!
>
>please write to me with any problems or questions regarding this
>list, or anything else... well, not anything else, just dbhq stuff!
>
>
>neutrinos have mass, and so does dbhq.
>
>http://home1.gte.net/danbern/index.htm
>danbern@gte.net
>
>1158 26th st #411
>santa monica, ca 90403
>
>(888) 222-bern
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hey atlantans!

i'm taking my 4 and 8 year old niece and nephew to the show at the roxy
tomorrow night.  it will be their first concert!

it's general admission, but i'm hoping to get up close so that they can see
the show well.

they have been listening to the girls all their lives!

anybody gonna be in line with me??

let me know who's gonna be there... maybe we can chat!

~~robin

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hey ya'll wonderful ppl!! sorry to waste the bandwith..but everyone was
so helpful when i asked for butterfly backgrounds, (it's amazing how
much the ppl on this list know, and how sweet ya'll all are!)
so i was wondering...
does anyone know where i can find any graphics, pics, clip art what have
you, of a mirror or looking glass? paintings..anything! i've been
searching for the last hour and a half :p and i found one! :p
any help would be apprectiated!

*hugs*

lamia

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hey just wondering if anyone has any extra tickets to the newport folk
festival august 9th.  thanks,

slavi

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>from: mike cunningham <mcunningham5@earthlink.net>
>
>anyway, the ig order is close to the following:
>
>nueva senorita, get out the map, gone again, it's alright, ghost, problem
>child, thin line.

there was definitely one more song that amy sang lead on that was something
about "me and your daddy mined uranium in nevada".  i have no idea whether
it was a new amy song or a cover.  her style is expanding so much it's not
so easy to tell immediately anymore whether she wrote it.  "go" sounds way
different now than the early versions of "problem child" i heard a few
years back.  i don't even think the words "problem child" are even in the
lyric anymore.

anybody know what that other song might be?

ron

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i met amy and emily in 1988 and had the opportunity to talk to them for a
while and amy is not 5'10...i'm 5'8 and i was a little taller than her. i have
a friend who is 5'10 and met them (because she was a runner at a show) and she
was way taller than both of them...if i have to venture a guess about her
height based on my height and the height of my friend and even the height of
my g/f....i would say amy is 5'7...5'8 with shoes unless they are really tall
shoes.... :)

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i know we all have heard the song "the way" by fastball, one listee even
said it was a good road trip song...anyway, my question about this song:
my hubby and i are having a debate on who the female voice is at the very
beginning of the song--i say it's jewel ("....fail to notice..." line from
foolish games), but adam swears it's madonna....anyone else have any ideas,
or better yet have the album and can peek at the liner notes?

thanks & sorry for the nigc!
winona

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hmm...well, here's my list related obsessing:

i used to do interlibrary loan stuff all of the time.  each library has a three
letter code symbol.  i loved sending stuff to the robert scott small library
(somewhere in nc, i think) because their code is "sbm" aka susan b. marine.

:)
anna
proud member of sbmfc
court minstral of ysfc

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hkf's,

i think it's horrible that we are talking about how a performer looks??!!
why can it just be about the music... (wait, have i heard this before)

<<<<click>>>> <change modes>

so anyway, since i just recently walked past the two legends a&e, i'd have
to say 5'10" might be a little tall.  (i'm 5'10" and they were shorter than
me)  my guess is that they are both around 5'7" or 5'8".  so is this in the
faq???  (yeah, that and their favorite color & favorite ice cream too!)

8-)
ps - i'll try to remember to give them big hugs tonight so we can all be
equal partners in this mystery... (i'd go crazzzzzy on a night like tonight!)

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yet another one that i'd like to hear amy (with or without em) sing:

   tom petty's "you wreck me, baby"

wouldn't amy just rock out on this?  wouldn't it give you shivers to
hear her singing that line?

elaine

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> you know you are a hopelessly obsessed ig fan when,

...you write out your monthly loan payment check to the us dept. of
education...get it all ready to go...write down your return address -
and take a good look at where it's going...atlanta, ga...and then you
wonder...'hmmm...i wonder what amy and emily are doing right now?'

lol
sunny
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when i met amy and emily in '96 amy was a bit taller than me...(i'm 5'7).  she
was just a little taller than my girlfriend...(she's 5'8")...so my guess
is...with shoes on of course that amy is about  5'8 1/2 or so maybe 5'9.
probably not   5'10 though.  and emily i'd say is probably about 5'5 or 5'6
(with her cool green boots on)...i was definitely taller than her.  i have a
picture of the three of us in the photo album and i was hoping to be able to
compare and contrast...but i guess i haven't unpacked that box from the move
yet.  : )

amy

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if anyone has one or two extra tickets for toronto's lilith fair (either
saturday or sunday) preferably not lawn seats, but beggers can't be choosers...
please email me!
thanks
lori


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fyi, if anyone's interested, just found out that yahoo! is having a chat
session with tori amos tonight at 7 pm eastern time.

winona

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sorry for the intrusive request:

i'm looking for any past/present members or any information on this
sorority. it was formed in 1988 at ucla and subsequent chapters came up
around the country.
i'm currently putting together a reunion/anniversary celebration and
looking for anyone involved with the sorority at any time.
please e-mail me privately: bonesdc@gte.net

thanks!

bones

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im getting to the end of my world of indigo page, so if you have any info
you wouldlike to see on it, questions answered, cool ig quotes, facts,
webpages, let me know!!!!! thanks!!!!


           sometimes you have to grow apart to grow together

                                always,
                                      jeanette

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im also looking for info on benefits they have done, and things like
that..thanks!!!


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i don't know how tall amy is, but it doesn't really matter...when she's on stage, she's 10 feet tall and bullet proof!!!!

toye

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                                                           --amy ray

> while and amy is not 5'10...i'm 5'8 and i was a little taller than her.

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instead of sitting home brooding about the loss of my job, i decided to go to lilith at the last minute.  i'm so glad i did.  the weather was "ify" but the rain held off for the most part.  it rained a bit right as natalie merchant was starting.  but it stopped in a few minutes and didn't start raining again until the last song in sarah's encore.  bonnie rait was great.  natalie was also great, but sarah was the best imo.  liz phair's music was good, but i didn't think there was much of a stage presence.  i can't really judge because i never saw her anywhere except here.  the most important thing is i finally got the sys remix, the blue one.  i bought the cheapest ig cd, back on the bus just so i could get the remix.  i was looking at the cover about half an hour later.  i opened it up and my friend says, "hey, what's this?!  this isn't an ig cd!"  sure enough, the cd inside my ig case was "dj 25," some composition of dance tunes or something.  but all was ok when i went back to the tower tent and they replaced it.  wow!  it rocks!  i have to say i like the original version better than the remix, but the whole cd is great!  blister in the sun sounds like they are just having a grand time doing it!  i like how amy laughs.  so i got three things i wanted for a long time.  i saw sarah, got the sys remix, and saw bonnie, which i have wanted to do since i was in jr. high school.  anyway, that's my lilith experience.  it definately missed something w/out the girls.

toye

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hey ya'll i went to amazon.com to find the daughters of the moon sisters
of the sun book that mentions the girls, and there are 2!!! different
publishing dates..which is which?? anyone know??

*hugs*

lamia

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hi y'all.....

i'm absolutely certain that anyone who loves the ig will love anatara's music
as well.....they are dear friends and wonderful musicians with great songs and
fabulous harmonies....thanks for listening.....

peace, love, & harmony,
tim

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the anatara / wny info newsletter
woodstock 98 info
http://bounce.to/anatara
email:  anatara1@aol.com

published by loop publishing and communications
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anatara launches woodstock 98 - "a day in the garden"
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anatara, (winnie bergner and donna andreeff),
will kick off the 1998 woodstock festival,
"a day in the garden".   anatara will take the stage
august 14th at 9am to begin a concert weekend
that includes pete townsend, ziggy marley, stevie
nicks, lou reed, richie havens, joan osborne
and joni mitchell.

ticket information can be found at the official
woodstock site at:
http://www.dayinthegarden.com

there is currently a limited time buy one get one
free ticket offer going on for the friday and saturday
concerts.  also, children under 12 are admitted free
with an adult.

a live internet broadcast of the woodstock 98 weekend
can be found at :
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pre-concert and webcast info is now available at that site.

woodstock links can be found on the anatara news
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to schedule interviews  or
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no i don't know if this is exactly problem child, but that sounds like a
song i've yet been able to identify from my tape of penobscot hte on
9/14/98...

mike r.
who thinks amy should consider covering some billy bragg tunes (a new
england? i guess i planted from mermaid ave. umm...chile your waters runred
(is that the title? off help save the youth of america?)

definitely have been spending too much time listening to mr. bragg recently.

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in a message dated 98-08-05 09:08:41 edt, poprckgrrl@aol.com writes:

<<
i met amy and emily in 1988 and had the opportunity to talk to them for a
while and amy is not 5'10 >>


i'll agree with that.   i met the girls this past january and amy was about an
inch or two taller than me....i'm 5' 5 1/2".  emily is about my height and amy
i would guess is about 5'6" or 5' 7"

lynn   :-)    <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
tahmehawk's place</a>

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i'd like to add that i'm 5' 5" and i think amy & emily are about my height, give or take a few
inches.  so, how much ya think them gals weigh?  luv, bar

peace + love,
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bethany, please e-mail me.  i do not know what your e-mail address is and
i need to ask you something.
thanx

j&t

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hkf's,

(have i been on a tear or what?)
i was just wondering if anyone had some info. about the show tonight.  tm
lists it starting at 8:00pm.  does anyone know when the doors open?  maybe
6:30 or 7:00 i'm thinkin'.  and also, when is everyone starting to get on
line???  now?!

thanks!!!
"i could go crazy on a night like tonight!"
8-)
(btw, i still need 2 tix's...  anyone, anyone, bueller...)

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hey...does anyone know...how safe is itto leave a blanket where is it
and to wander the fair?  will is be stolen or moved, or are people
actually good about just leaving it where is is?
hmmmm.......
thanks for humoring my  nigc.....

carol
(who's still not sure if her ticket is lawn or pavilion, but will find
out tomorrow, when she's there...oh well, its free....)


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ok, so i get this e-mail from daemon talking about their spectacular
summer blow-out sale and how i'm supposed to check out their site!  and
i'm really excited!  i'm ready to go spend all kinds of money on daemon
products!  and guess what?  they don't include their url so how do i
know where their site is?? (major marketing blunder!)!  i guess they
need me working for them.

....so, if anyone would happen to know the url to the daemon site, i
would appreciate it if you can send it to me.  (for some reason, an
search doesn't find it...but i get lots of listings for domain.com).

>*********back stock blow-out sale!!!*************
>it's august again and time for our annual back stock
>blow-out sale.  over a dozen back catalog artists
>are 50% off for the entire month of august!  all
>cds, cassettes, lps and 7" singles by artists such
>as michelle malone and band de soleil,  belloluna,
>rock*a*teens and kristen hall.  we only do this
>once a year so get it while you can!  some of these
>titles are getting low in stock and might not be around
>much longer.
>
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i recently re-subscribed to this list after a few years.
how wonderful that it's still alive!

does anyone out there know if the upcoming (suffragette sessions? aka
travelling roadpussy tour) will extend beyond the currently scheduled
2-week tour?
perhaps to the left coast?
ann & nancy wilson were going to join them but had to drop out.. however,
it still sounds like something not to miss!

- harley

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a few months ago some one posted a little personality quiz thingy, the subject
was something like, what to do when you get sidetracked at work , or something
along those lines, i'm looking for several of these little tests----you know ,
the ones that ask, give your interpretation of, dog , cat, rat and,
water...and name four song titles etc...it then gives the meanings for your
answers..if anyone as any of these mails could you please send them to me?....
thanks!
val

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sorry if this is a repeat (which it must be)  but i just saw the vh1 top ten
lilith videos... i was so pissed off about it
   first of all, paula cole who was the #2 video, was she even on lilith this
year?? and joan osborne, she is like such a one hit wonder!  no offence to
joan osborne fans (i can't stand her) and to be honest i can only think of one
song i've ever even heard of by her!  and no ig!!!!  i was not impressed with
their selections!!  and most ironic, while the girl who ws the announcer (who
i did not like at all, i found some of her comments to be down right
offensive) was talking what did they have in the backround??  closer to fine!
at least they showed a short interveiw with the girls, but puh-lease!!!  gimme
some ig!!!
--kate

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date:         wed, 5 aug 1998 16:17:52 -0600
reply-to:     "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
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yep, em's definitely gotta be no more than 5'5" or 5'6". when i spoke to
her (very briefly) in october, she wasn't too much taller than me and i'm
only 5'3" (and that's pushing it). alas, i've never really been close
enough to amy to be able to accurately gauge her height. *sigh*

amy m.

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subject:      absolutly nigc:pflag of roswell/alpharetta, ga

would any of you southern listees know anything about a budding pflag
chapter
serving roswell and alpharetta, georgia?  i'd be extermly gratful for any
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this is a multi-part message in mime format.

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attention fellow listees. i have the direct site to the comment on south park
that mentions ig on the episode where the boys are trying to become lesbians.
you will have to download the sound wave.

the direct site is
http://www.beef-cake.com/archive/salami/epi_111/111_becomeales.wav

if that doesn't pull it up, go to www.beef-cake.com and go to episode 111.

good luck and don't try to lick the carpet! (you'll understand when you hear
the wave!)

jessie
=)

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from: osfan122@aol.com
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date: wed, 5 aug 1998 16:43:10 edt
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<a href="http://www.beef-cake.com/archive/salami/epi_111/111_becomeales.wav">
episode 111</a>
here is the link 2 the lesbian episode
u should be able to go back 2 the episode guide
if u cant it's www.beef-cake.com

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can anyone give us info on this song?  what is it from?  when was it
recorded?  did amy write it?


kim & rhea

do we have to live inside its walls to identify the cage?

ferron

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women never tell thir weight!! ;)


           sometimes you have to grow apart to grow together

                                always,
                                      jeanette

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                               a + e = ig
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on wed, 5 aug 1998, * barbara * wrote:

> i'd like to add that i'm 5' 5" and i think amy & emily are about my height, give or take a few
> inches.  so, how much ya think them gals weigh?  luv, bar
>
> peace + love,
> forever a flower child
>     * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ *
> if you're not outraged, then you're not paying attention!
>                 bcorrice@wam.umd.edu
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it's http://www.daemonrecords.com/

:)
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of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

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just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
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>it's http://www.daemonrecords.com/

that doesn't work for me.

http://www.monsterbit.com/daemon has always worked though.

i also thought it was kinda funny they sent out an email announcing their
sale and didn't include the url in the message.

k.

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                        lilith fair giveaway!
as the lilith fair makes its way across the country this summer, we're
celebrating the excitement by giving away autographed posters and cds
from
natalie merchant, liz phair and other lilith fair artists. to enter,
visit
http://cdnow.com/lilith_contest/from=rex:x:cdn:p255. all entries must
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by august 17, 1998 at 1:00 pm est.  and be sure to check out summer
tour
'98
for tour dates, concert  information and special prices on this
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if anyone knows them please  e-mail their address. thanks. missy

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hkf,

so all this talk about list t-shirt got me thinking.  i made this shirt and haven't decided if i will wear it to newport.  i just used some iron-on letters and voila! instant ig list shirt.

a picture of what is on the front of the shirt is at
http://www.mhv.net/~kricky/front.jpg

later,
kris
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kricky@mhv.net ... soon to be ... kricky@orn.net

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so how tall did emily appear?

>
>i met amy and emily in 1988 and had the opportunity to talk to them for
a
>while and amy is not 5'10...i'm 5'8 and i was a little taller than her.
i have
>a friend who is 5'10 and met them (because she was a runner at a show)
and she
>was way taller than both of them...if i have to venture a guess about
her
>height based on my height and the height of my friend and even the
height of
>my g/f....i would say amy is 5'7...5'8 with shoes unless they are
really tall
>shoes.... :)
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i've just been doodling away time in my break here at uni browsing
homepages and looking at indigo pictures and i inadvertently set one of
amy as the wallpaper!  not a bad thing, i know, pretty good pic too. but
it's not my computer to set pictures on and i don't know how to get it
off.  i think i'll quietly pick up my bag and exit the building so no one
knows it was me!!

i guess my subconcious(?sp) is just tryin' to spread the indigo message!
cheers,
anne

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date:         wed, 5 aug 1998 23:20:09 -0500
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howdy all,

        just wanted to let all interested parties know, i am willing to take on
the task of organizing & getting all suggestions compiled for voting &
selection of listee id shirts(there are other options here too).
        i will be compiling the information i already have, and posting it in
a, hopefully, reader friendly, informative fashion, this weekend.  once
that information is out there, we can go to the next step.
        any ideas, suggestions or advice, you want added to the information i
currently have (gathered from all the recent postings discussing such
topics), please feel free to email me.

        thanks for your time,
        jules

btw.....bar is the best driver ever!!!!!   hi bar :)


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so i was at this amusement park today called kings island (in
cincinnati).  i had on an ig shirt and some lady told me the a&e played
there (at kings island) a few years ago. so my question is, does anyone
know if that's true and when it was?  (i dunno why exactly i have a
desire to know this.)

liz

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it's so quiet out there tonight...i've been on for a while and noone is
talking...so, here's a question:

does anyone have any ideas as to what or whom amy is referring to in "pushing
the needle too far"  when she talks about the queen...you know "the
queen...i've been there before..knocking on the door..." ( i can't remember
the way the verse goes off the top of my head---sorry...) anyway, i have a
fascination with the song right now...i just don't understand the analogy of
"the queen"...so, if anybody has any suggestions---i have no ideas--original,
or unoriginal.  so, let me know.

kara...who loved all the responses to her request for favorite books---for all
who are interested, i am in the middle of reading the beauty myth and have
just started written on the body---both of which are awesome!!!  so thanks
all...and for all who are interested i have compiled the list of
recommendations from everybody===so, if you would like a copy, email me
privately and i will send you it!  there is about 100 books and authors
total...

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date:         thu, 6 aug 1998 01:53:22 edt
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i always thought it was a mother figure.

babs: who needs to find a lift to newport because her car is dead!

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ok... i need help! (again!)

so i got tickets for the whole wonderful newport weekend.  might even have a
place to crash!

but... now my car has decided that is does not want to drive me to newport on
saturday am!

damn damn damn!

hear is the deal.... i live 35 minutes outside of nyc.  if but some chance of
god anybody is driving up that way, please let me know!

also ... as a bribe..... the friend who was going to the show with me can't.
so if you have the weekend off, live in or near rockland county, ny and want
to go but have no tickets, i will trade you 1 set of full weekend tickets for
a ride to the ff.!

this just bites the big one!

babs

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ok the igc was that i need to see the girls and newport is the place to be!

so i need major help getting to the ig show!

sorry and thanks for reading my plea!

babs

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hi folks,

kara asked
> does anyone have any ideas as to what or whom amy is referring to in "pushing
> the needle too far"  when she talks about the queen...you know "the
> queen...i've been there before..knocking on the door..." ( i can't remember

ages and ages ago i heard somewhere (i think it could
have been on this list) that the queen and the soldier
from "pushing the needle too far" are actually the
same queen and solder from suzanne vega's song of that
name... i don't know if this is true or what, and i'm
not all that familiar with suzanne vega's song, but
there could be something to it, i don't know...

-sherlyn, wishing this rain would stop!
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                                        - the waifs

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date:         thu, 6 aug 1998 07:58:28 -0400
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ok, so i know it's off-topic but did anyone else see the new americanized
version of whose line is it anyway last night on abc?  i haven't laughed
so hard at network television is a *long* time...

kelly, leaving in 29 hours for newport (not that i'm counting!!)

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i think that the top ten was of videos, not the artists.  sure, it was
supposed to be of artists involved with lilith, but it was still
centered on videos.  when was the last time anyone saw ig regularly on
vh1 or mtv?  but, paula cole and joan osbourne are played there
regularly, which is why they made it to the top ten.

or maybe it's just a conspiracy....

anna

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date:         thu, 6 aug 1998 08:18:53 -0700
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not sure if this has already been posted but here's some info for
those of you going to this show.  according to the daemon site, 3
finger cowboy will be the opening act.

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wondering what the rest of you make of that line in sys...i dig it, but
am not quite sure what it means...

peaches,
shelley

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date:         thu, 6 aug 1998 11:33:24 -0500
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i know some of you were looking for this some time ago, i found something
on download.com called audio librarian, you can download this program and
it has a lot of cataloging stuff, and also can create cd or cassette
covers!!!

winona

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hi yall -

just a quickie note - wondering if anyone has suggestions on where to
stay this weekend?!?!  im starting to get a bit nervous/stressed that
my friends and i are just blindly driving to newport...(so to speak).
any suggestions?

im sure stuff will work out...can always set my tent up alongside the
road right?  ugh.

anyhoo -

hope to meet some of ya in newport...ill be sporting the hawaiian
shirt once again!

rock on,
sunny


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i don't usually do this... but if you have the time and interest, please
check out the following site:

http://www.geocities.com/capitolhill/4120/index.html

and read about the horrific atrocities being committed against ethnic
chinese people, especially women, in indonesia.   and if you feel the
desire to do something to help stop this, follow the "links" link and
send a letter or petition to clinton or to senator kennedy (i don't know
why he is singled out, but that's who they are listing).

they also have some demonstrations scheduled in upcoming days that you
might be able to attend.

as a warning, the page contains very graphic photos of women who have
been raped and tortured, including the front page which has a picture of
a rape in progress.   if seeing this would be too disturbing for you,
then just look for the news stories through yahoo or something else.  the
pictures are brutal.

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        what else can i say?  we all know how cool those girls are...


take care,
trooper

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today's the last day to get it.. so if ya want it.. email me by tomorrow. (=

thanks folks! (=

love,
newly singled single girl.

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hkf's.

here a list of the songs (not in order).  if anyone could help me/us put it
in order that would be awesome!!!  and please let me know if i'm missing any
songs.  thanks!!!
8-)

shame on you
it's alright
gone again
get out the map
problem child
shed your skin
scooter boys (sort of tame soc)
love's recovery
least complicated
everything in it's own time
thin line
power of two
galileo
new song???***

***the new song had no line that repeated a lot so i can't remember any of
it - it wasn't nueva senorita - but can anyone help on this one?!

8-)

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date:         thu, 6 aug 1998 13:10:23 -0400
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subject:      nigc --  alison folland/ all over me
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hey...sorry, everyone, this is so nigc...i was just wondering if anyone's
seen or heard of alison folland and/or all over me.  please, e-mail me
privately if you have.  thanks!
-jen

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date:         thu, 6 aug 1998 14:42:02 -0400
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does anyone know if this is happening for this year?  i haven't heard about it
from the girls (as we carry on our close personal conversations over cups of
herbal tea - ha) so i was wondering if this wasn't happening this year.

this list has more inside contacts that any other i know about - so whats the
deal?

also - how was the roxy?  did someone post a review?

thanks - b

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   i just put a new, awesome sounding stereo in my truck yesterday.  so this
am on my way to work, i put my blue sys cd in cuz i hadn't heard the cd player
yet.  so i put on blister in the sun and turn it wayyyyy up; it sounded
great!!  and then i hear, "hey!", so i look to see who's yelling at me and 2
cal-trans workers (the guys that work on the roads here in ca. ) are dancing
this little jig to blister!!  it was too funny!!  then they motioned for me to
turn it down and asked me who that was.  "it's the indigo girls," i said.  and
one guy said, "well i gotta get their cd, they rock!"  then they said some
"construction worker" things to me and i left.
just wanted to share that w/ ya!!  ( :
~jennifer

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>from: mike cunningham <mcunningham5@earthlink.net>
>
>here a list of the songs (not in order).  if anyone could help me/us put it
>in order that would be awesome!!!  and please let me know if i'm missing any
>songs.  thanks!!!
>8-)
>
>shame on you
>it's alright
>gone again
>get out the map
>problem child

the words "problem child" are definitely no longer a part of the lyric.
calling it "go" will probably help people match up which song that is now.

>shed your skin
>scooter boys (sort of tame soc)
>love's recovery
>least complicated
>everything in it's own time
>thin line
>power of two
>galileo
>new song???***
>
>***the new song had no line that repeated a lot so i can't remember any of
>it - it wasn't nueva senorita - but can anyone help on this one?!

i wanted to call it "sister", which amy said at the very end of the chorus.
the beginning of the chorus was something like "i know your heart is heavy"
or something to that effect.  a very nice, moody and murky feel to this
one.  my favorite of her new stuff, slightly ahead of "go".

they closed backing up dede vogt's "killing time".

gerard mchugh (with joyce & jacque + michael lorant from big fish ensemble)
did a great song called "let love run".

sonia tetlow did an extremely energetic song, but i can't remember the
name of it.

caroline aiken did something on electric guitar that was very good, but
stylistically out of place with the rest of the show.

amy and emily joined three finger cowboy to sing backup on a cover of
styx' "come sail away".  didn't much care for their set, personally.

big fish ensemble also played a set after 3fc.  i used to hate them more
than i do now, but don't get me started about that "mack daddy" song.

ron

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hkfs,
        i was listening to the soundtrack from armageddon,
and i thought about a great song for ig to cover.  it is
leaving on a jet plane.  if you have heard this version
there are some nice harmonies on the chorus, and i think it
would be neat for them the do.  just a random thought...

karen


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hi everyone,

well i finally did it.  i have my first web page.  it's very generic
right now but i am working on it.  i am searching around for pictures of
the ig to put on it.  so if anyone has one or two that they would like to
offer for my page that would be great!

thanks again
eddie
you can visit my new site at
http://www.geocities.com/wellesley/garden/5165

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date:         thu, 6 aug 1998 16:19:06 -0400
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i've seen it...i thought it was a great movie, but kinda dragged at
parts...whatcha want to know?


-alanna

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the same, now i am older.

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sherylyn posted last night:

>kara asked
>> does anyone have any ideas as to what or whom amy is referring to in
"pushing
>> the needle too far"  when she talks about the queen..
>ages and ages ago i heard somewhere (i think it could
>have been on this list) that the queen and the soldier
>from "pushing the needle too far" are actually the
>same queen and solder from suzanne vega's song of that
>name...

so, i went and found the lyrics to sv's "the queen and the soldier"  and i
think that the queen is probably in reference to the q&s from this song...in
reference to denying reality...or hiding from it...so here's the lyrics for
anybody that is interested...i figured i'm not the only one...

the queen and the soldier

the soldier came knocking upon the queen's door
he said, "i am not fighting for you any more"
the queen knew she'd seen his face someplace before
and slowly she let him inside.

he said, "i've watched your palace up here on the hill
and i've wondered who's the woman for whom we all kill
but i am leaving tomorrow and you can do what you will
only first i am asking you why."

down in the long narrow hall he was led
into her rooms with her tapestries red
and she never once took the crown from her head
she asked him there to sit down.

he said, "i see you now, and you are so very young
but i've seen more battles lost than i have battles won
and i've got this intuition, says it's all for your fun
and now will you tell me why?"

the young queen, she fixed him with an arrogant eye
she said, "you won't understand, and you may as well not try"
but her face was a child's, and he thought she would cry
but she closed herself up like a fan.

and she said, "i've swallowed a secret burning thread
it cuts me inside, and often i've bled"
he laid his hand then on top of her head
and he bowed her down to the ground.

"tell me how hungry are you? how weak you must feel
as you are living here alone, and you are never revealed
but i won't march again on your battlefield"
and he took her to the window to see.

and the sun, it was gold, though the sky, it was gray
and she wanted more than she ever could say
but she knew how it frightened her, and she turned away
and would not look at his face again.

and he said, "i want to live as an honest man
to get all i deserve and to give all i can
and to love a young woman who i don't understand
your highness, your ways are very strange."

but the crown, it had fallen, and she thought she would break
and she stood there, ashamed of the way her heart ached
she took him to the doorstep and she asked him to wait
she would only be a moment inside.

out in the distance her order was heard
and the soldier was killed, still waiting for her word
and while the queen went on strangeling in the solitude she preferred
the battle continued on

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i dunno if i mentioned this but there is a program called tapedit (there
is also one called cd edit) that is great for making covers.  of course i
don't remember the exact addy but you can find it by doing a net search in
yahoo... *nods*

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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

                                *****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
- kristen hall "just so you know"

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hi,
it's almost the last minute.  my niece needs 2 tickets to newport for sunday.
if anyone knows of a seller, please e-mail me (at my address)or andrea at
winnie2727@aol.com.
thanks
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is there anyone out there that is going to this show that may have an
extra ticket or 2?  i would really like to go, but it is sold out.
do you think that if i just show up, there will be people scalping
tickets?

thanks

chris

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  just went to a k's choice concert the other night! go see them

ben

----------ben slavin----------------
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hey folks,

kara said:
>so, i went and found the lyrics to sv's "the queen and the soldier"  and i
>think that the queen is probably in reference to the q&s from this song...in
>reference to denying reality...or hiding from it...so here's the lyrics for
>anybody that is interested...i figured i'm not the only one...

it's interesting, reading those lyrics.  if the queen
closed the door before the soldier came in, as amy
suggests in ptntk, wouldn't she be *sparing* his life
then?

hmm...
sherlyn
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date:         thu, 6 aug 1998 15:50:44 pdt
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ok this is complete nigc but i just wanted to share. 3 days ago i joined
the tori news list (which is more like this list than it is a news
list!) in fact, i joined right in the middle of a flame-war they were
having when someone had mentioned tori had gained some weight.
now being me, i thought that it didn't hurt tori any by someone
mentioning she had gained a few pounds! b/c i think it would be lovely
if she was pregnant, after her tragedy you know! but i befriended the
person, who was kicked off the list, and they forwarded me a flame they
got.
i wrote the flamer, and i got the nicest response ever i think. i just
thought wow, because when i saw it, i figured it was going to be really
mean...too all the world can't be this open :)

he had written:
why don't you get a life and stop concentrating on people's weight?

i wrote:
hi!
maybe you should get a life and stop flaming people? come on!
that's not what tori would want!!
not being mean at all, or flaming back, just an observation!!

*hugs*

and the nicest response!:

hi lamia,perhaps u are right...its just that i can't stand attacks (even
if it wasn't intentioned) on tori....thanks for the bucket of cold water
hugs back


anyways! it just made me happy! :)

lamia

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in a message dated 98-08-06 17:50:22 edt, you write:

<< do you think that if i just show up, there will be people scalping
tickets? >>

one of my d.c. friends has tickets, and she hasn't decided yet if she wants to
go.  she plans on waiting until she gets there to see how much she can get for
them!  (i personally think she is crazy, but that's just me...)  anyway, if
you hang around, i'm sure there will be some scalpers.
good luck  (wish i was going!!)
terri

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here's the set list in the correct order for the roxy show (forgive lack of
correct titles for new songs):

        shame on you
        it's alright
        new song by amy ("go" or "raise your hands," maybe)
        everything in its own time
        new song by amy ("gone again")
        least complicated
        shed your skin
        guest appearance by caroline aiken
        get out the map
        guest appearance by sonia tetlow (sp?)
        song by, and with, dede vogt (title?)
        scooter boys
        love's recovery
        guest appearance by gerard mchugh and joyce and jaqui (sp?)
        power of two
        new song by amy (title?)
        galileo

encore:
        thin line
        killin' time (by, and with, dede vogt)


the show was so incredible -- they were in such a good mood, and it was so
wonderful to hear the crowd sing practically every word, and it was so
wonderful to see them in a small venue again.  wow.

so, did anyone boot the show?  drop me a line!

deanna
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i'm a huge suzanne vega fan, so i thought i'd clear up the bit about the
song "the queen and the soldier."

the basic story of the song is that a soldier comes knocking on the door of
a queen who lives secluded in a tower, watching a battle which she is in
ultimate control of and which is "all for her fun."  the soldier tells her
that he "is leaving tomorrow, and you can do what you will," but wants to
know why she does what she does, wants to know the reasons for the battles
in which they fight and die.

the queen invites him in, and is cool and distant, and although he takes her
to the window to show her how beautiful the sun is, even though the sky
around it is gray, she "knew how it frightened her" to think of ever leaving
her tower.  she takes the soldier to the door, and asks him to wait -- she
will "only be a moment inside," she says.

the last stanza of the song describes the outcome:

"and out in the distance her order was heard,
and the soldier was killed, still waiting for her word.
and while the queen went on strangling in the solitude she preferred,
the battle continued on."


in a word, oof.  pretty powerful.


i seem to remember reading somewhere that the lyric from "pushing the needle
too far" was inspired either by the song or by vega herself.  looking at it,
the song connection would seem to make more sense than connecting it to
vega:  "now i've met the queen, and i understand why she closed the door.
i'm not making excuses -- you know i've been there a few times.  i was
knocking on the door."  the references are pretty specific to the events of
the song text.

can anyone point to an interview or anything else which specifically
mentions the connection of these two songs (two of my personal favorites
from both artists, by the way)?  i'd love to hear what the connection is.
i'm also a subscriber to the suzanne vega mailing list, to which suzanne
herself subscribes and occasionally contributes to answer questions and
provide information on upcoming stuff, so i think i'll pose the question
there, too, to see what anyone knows.

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i thought i would add a little more........first off.......i met a few of the
listees and so that was cool........i met gitroop and melsouth while waiting
in line.......long wait, but good company.........i saw three finger cowboy
last friday here in montevallo, al.....they are from birmingham and play at
barnstormer's here in montevallo often.........they were cool.......we spoke
with them when they came up to ask me about my indigo girls t-shirt........we
bought t-shirts from them and they are cool.......we saw them again yesterday
before the show when they were walking back and forth..........they are amy's
newest band and they opened the show.........they rocked!  they sang for about
40 mins, i guess and meanwhile, amy was watching from back in the
wings........it was cute..........i saw her peek around the corner once to see
how the crowd was reacting to them.......we all were grooving to their
beats.........then she took pics........on their last song, they sang "come
sail away" or whatever it is called and asked amy and em to come sing with
them........amy was taking pics of all the band members during the
song.........i couldn't hear amy and em singing back-up....i don't know if the
microphones were way down or just not on........after their set, big fish
ensemble played for about 35 or 40 mins and that was cool and lots of
fun..........then the girls came on.........amy did sing "gone again" as well
as a new one i don't have a boot of, nor do i know the title, but she mentions
the words "alabama", "florida," "georgia," and maybe "texas" in it and at the
end of the song i remember the lyrics were something like "it was trust that
brought me here and trust will take me home".........those weren't the exact
words, but something like that....if anyone knows which song this is, please
let us know!  amy also did an soc (but it rhymed well, so it may have been an
soc she planned.....it came during the song "shed your skin", i think).  i
don't know caroline aiken's, dede vogt's, or sonie tetlow's music so i don't
know the name of the those songs.  one of the girls' encores was with members
of big fish ens and they sang "thin line" and it was really neat seeing gerard
mchugh singing it since he wrote it and since we all love it..........you
could tell he was really excited being able to sing it and seeing all of us
singing his words with him........i thought that was a great moment in the
show.........i was so glad they sang it because it is one of my fave songs
they do..........i think we all expected them to close with "ctf" but they
didn't and i knew it was safe to leave when behind the curtains i could see
amy walking upstairs and she threw out her hand for a wave to us
all..........it was a benefit so it was neat seeing the man who spoke about
the cause we were there to benefit........he was talking about mexican
immigrant farming workers here in america and their working conditions and
their treatment by these huge american food companies.

it was a very cool night and i think it is my fave concert experience with the
girls thus far because so many musicians were there to play separately and
with the girls.....it was definitely an atlanta music night!  if anyone booted
it, please let me know!

amanda

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shelley miller wrote:

> wondering what the rest of you make of that line in sys...i dig it, but
> am not quite sure what it means...

could be refering to alchohol...or being "religious" instead of
"spiritual".

anna

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hey, & sorry for the nigc, but can someone tell me the name of an
ani song that goes, "my lipstick....jumped ship"....and then something
about a styrofoam coffee cup?

i know it's silly, but i have it on a boot somewhere & i want to put it
on a mix tape, but i can't locate it because i don't know the name.

thanks,

leigh ann

p.s.  bar, i'll get with you soon, and we'll be bad, i promise!
         and yes, i am exhausted!!!  it's all clean though!

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---deanna light <drlight@mindspring.com> wrote
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> so, did anyone boot the show?  drop me a line!

id *love* to get a copy of this one!!  - so did anyone boot it???  :o)

thanks for the setlist...again - this makes me wonder...'why dont i
live in atlanta??!'

take care -
sunny
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yea, wasnt it all too fantastic!!!???

i also met abbett and melsouth waiting in line.  everyone was so fantastic..
some lady even ordered 7 large pizza's for all of us in line.  well you have
all read the setlists and all that, but i will say, 3 finger cowboy created a
mighty impression on me, and so did big fish ensemble!  man, the lady who
played electric violin was kickin it's ass!!!  hoo yea!  oh yea, amanda
(abbett) mentioned that amy was watching 3 finger cowboy from behind the
curtain, well yea she also helped the applause which was great, she was
whistlin at them after each of their songs... really cute,.... you could see
her fingers go up and then back down :)  and though they didnt play closer to
fine, it was a wondeful evening. you could tell that they were very excited ab
being home again, and playing with their friends... they were just there
having a good ole time again, and the crowd was fabulous... new all the words
too.  i tried requesting love of the common people, but it didnt work...
dunno, maybe they didnt see it or maybe they just didnt choose to play it,
whatever, it was still a fabulous (one of the best imho) show!!  i love you
listees!!!!

take care,
trooper

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---amanda abbett <abbett@aol.com> wrote:
>
> i thought i would add a little more........

             *thanks!!!*  i really enjoyed your review...!!!

>.....it was definitely an atlanta music night!  if anyone booted
> it, please let me know!

   it's times like these i wonder why i dont *live* in *atanta*!!!  my
next vacation...atanata...and who knows - maybe ill move there
next....*smiles*

nighty night -
sunny

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ok - so, i sorta wrote the same thing twice tonight - *sorry* - but
cmon...i gotta get to atlanta.

'joking' seems to be my song of choice tonight - gotta love it - makes
me wanna watch 'boys on the side' - *smile*

"we were girls in bars - boys on the town - bumping like a pin ball
off a careless crowd...you said good friends are hard to come by - i
laughed - bought you a beer....its too - corny to cry......(you shook
it off w a smirk and a toss...)"

this is good stuff...gotta dig them girls...

hope to meet some of you this weekend.


rock on.
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just  a final plea any last minute eztras or anything?  thanks,  slavi

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just wondering if anyone could help me out.. i need the setlists to the
following ig shows:

1.  nashville lilith fair, 1997~august 6th?
2.  ryman auditorium, nashville, tn~october 15th, 1997
3.  starkville, mississippi~april 19th, 1997

anything would be helpful folks!  just trying to complete it all ya know.

sweet dreams.....
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz~trooper~zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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in a message dated 98-08-06 18:06:59 edt, you write:

<< it's interesting, reading those lyrics.  if the queen
closed the door before the soldier came in, as amy
suggests in ptntk, wouldn't she be *sparing* his life
then?
  >>
i never thought about it like that....this was how my little brain saw it...

amy writes:
"now, i met the queen and i understand why she closed the door..."  (and left
the soldier out to dry...)

"i'm not making excuses" (either for the queen or herself...i don't know which
person she was referring to...)

"but i've been there a few times, i was knocking on her door..." (i was
there--i saw what was wrong...i saw her dilema...her fear...)

i kind of thought that maybe she's talking about the reason the queen closed
the door after the soldier was already there...

i was thinking along the lines that she writes "we've all been removed in one
way or another...we don't know our families, we don't need our
brothers..."  meaning...(imho only), people have shut the door at one point or
another inorder to not deal with life...with reality...or have not wanted to
face there fears...and that that's what's
wrong...thus the man who blows out the doors and windows because he "just
couldn't survive" is maybe symbolic of trying to open up lines of
communication in an honest dialoge rather than "the family that lies" to
itself and it's
community to avoid dealing with pain or fear...

i also think i read somewhere that ptntf was about secrets of a southern
family...skeletons in the closet type of situation...i think that came out of
the faq or an archive related to the faq....

"the queen closed the door"--to maintain her status quo and to avoid her fears
"the family that lies"--to avoid it's past
"people who turn"--from reality...their backs on those in need...or those who
are different...
"a boy that od's"--drugs...to try and protect himself from his fears...
"a girl with a gun..." to protect herself....
the cat that has died....needlessly...out of what human emotion?
the world on it's knees...begging for mercy or cowering in fear?
the band on the run....

i don't pretend to know what this song is about...because i really don't, this
is just my little concoction that i tried to straighten out in my head...i
would really love to hear anything else in relation to this song---especially
about it's tie to "the queen and the soldier..."  i know the mystery of the
lyrics is part of what makes a&e's music so incredible...but sometimes, i just
wish i could get into their heads and know the exact reasoning behind some of
them...

sorry this was so long....i'm sort of windy like that sometimes...
peace,
kara.

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new delhi, india--all over india, where hindu wives traditionally burned
on
their husbands' funeral pyres, brides in recent years have been dying in
their husbands' homes in fires that were called "accidents" until
women's
organizations began to demand an official accounting.
rani rajeswari burned to death one saturday night in december. she was
25
years old, and she died so suddenly and silently that her sleeping
children,
one a baby 3 months old, did not awake.
the newspapers called it a suicide. it was one of several such deaths
that
day, and it merited a paragraph. each day there are more.
"this was not a case of suicide," mrs. rajeswari's cousin, balbir singh,
said. "it was murder." a familiar story
sitting on a cot in his spartan two-room apartment, mr. singh, a clerk
in
india's supreme court, told an increasingly familiar story of a marriage
gone wrong, a quarrel, and then death. the family believes rani's
husband
tried to suffocate or strangle her, poured kerosene over her and set her
on fire.
the new delhi police inspector conducting the investigation, harbands
lai,
says he now automatically orders an autopsy in suspicious domestic
deaths,
as required by law. advisors to prime minister rajiv ghandi say he is
determined to protect and improve the condition of indian women, forcing
changes in social and religious attitudes that have allowed bride-
burning,
or sati, to go on.  female infanticide continues to be practiced; in the
family of a prominent rajasthan politician no girls have been born in
forty years.
despite a number of laws aimed at protecting women and requiring
investigations of suspicious deaths, such acts of violence against women
have been a growing social phenomenon in the last decade.
in 1982, mr. ghandi's mother, prime minister indira ghandi, spoke of her
frustration at the situation, saying, "we have got a lot of laws, but it
is
not so easy to implement them."
among the obstacles to law enforcement are intimidation of witnesses,
police
indifference and official collusion, according to women's rights groups.
women's organizations point to the seriousness of the situation. one,
the
ahmedabad women's action group, in gujarat state, says that research
shows
that 1,000 women may be burned alive annually in that state alone.
gujarat
is the birthplace of mohandas k. ghandi.
in addition to burnings, women are also found hanged, or poisoned.
female
infanticide continues to be practiced, according to news
reports--including
in the family of a prominent rajasthan politician where no girls have
been
born in forty years. amniocenteses, barred only in one state to
determine an
unborn child's sex, is followed in the rest of the country by female
infanticide, women's groups say.
"let me be frank with you," said pramila dandavate, a pioneer in the
women's
right's movement for a decade. "we are a feudal society. basically, we
don't
believe that people are equal. our education system does not teach
respect
for women."'lost sense of justice'
"contact with western culture has made us greedy," mrs.dandavate, a
former
opposition member of parliament and founder of the women'svigilance
committee. "we have lost our sense of justice. we have not remained
indians.
but neither are we westernized," she said. "we do not understand
equality."
the result, she said, is the emergence in india of "a feudal being with
a
materialistic attitude." most marriages are arranged by families, and a
man
who does not marry for love learns he can marry for possessions.
the dowry system, outlawed in india, has degenerated into extortion that
goes on
long after marriage.  for this man, and his family, a woman becomes the
ticket to a few imported watches, a stereo, a refrigerator, a motorbike
or a car
through the system of dowry. a dowry, once a way a father could endow a
hindu daughter with material goods when she could not inherit property,
has
evolved into a reward paid to a man and his family to take a woman off
her
parents' hands. the dowry system, which has also degenerated into
extortion that
goes on long after marriage, is outlawed in india, but it thrives.
'a kind of commodity'
"the number of things people desire to have in their own houses but
cannot
afford, they now believe they can use the opportunity of a son's
marriage to
get," mrs. dandavate said. "in marrying a son, they can fulfill all
their
unfulfilled ambitions."
"the woman has become a kind of commodity," she said. "in her name
people
can get any number of things."
the fatalities of recently married women are often collectively known as
"dowry deaths"--where a husband kills a wife for failing to deliver on a
request, or she kills herself to spare her father further
hardship--although
they cover all kinds of domestic discord in a country where not only
arranged, but also forced marriages are still the norm.
  two young physicians at the same hospital injected themselves with
lethal
drugs; they could no longer bear the pressures exerted on their fathers
to
provide more goods to greedy husbands.
asked recently in parliament to quantify this phenomenon, which began to
draw attention about a decade ago when the number of deaths in fires
reported as "kitchen accidents" started rising in northern india,
india's
home affairs minister, palaniappan chidambaram, said that registered
cases
of dowry deaths nationwide numbered 999 in 1985, 1,319 in 1986,and 1,786
in
1987. women's groups say that total will be surpassed easily this
year--and
that in a country of 800 million people, most of whom do not report
domestic
violence, the real numbers are far higher.
some deaths are in fact suicides. women forced into marriage and
harassed by
their in-laws poison themselves or jump from buildings or into wells. in
separate incidents this fall, two young physicians at the same new delhi
hospital injected themselves with lethal doses of drugs becausethey
could
no longer bear seeing the pressures exerted on their fathers to provide
more
and more goods to greedy husbands.
on nov. 4, in the southern, very progressive state of kerala, four
sisters
hanged themselves and left this note:
our parents are not yet ready to pay fully for the dowry of our sister
who
was married some time ago. having sold their gold and land, weare not
sure
that they will be able to provide anything for our marriages. hence the
decision to end our lives.
in haryana, a prosperous state bordering new delhi, supriya singh, the
19-year-old granddaughter-in-law of the chief minister, devi lai, was
found
shot through the neck a few weeks ago and quickly crematedwithout an
investigation. her father promptly offered a younger daughter, kanta, as
a
replacement. from childhood a girl is told that once you go to the new
family you can come back only as a dead body.  "this dowry system has
crossed
all the barriers," mrs. dandavate said. formerly it was a phenomenon of
the hindu
middle class families in north india. but now it has gone to different
castes, crossed the boundaries of provinces and crossed the educational
and
religious barriers also. muslims and christians--among whom it was never
observed--have started demanding dowry.
in india, girls, especially hindu girls, are taught to model themselves
on
sita, the mythological wife of the legendary hero rama, who followed her
husband into the wilderness and never failed to do his bidding.
"in a hindu family, a girl is told from the very beginning that she has
to
win over the family that she is married into," mrs. dandavate said.
"once
she is married, she has nothing to do with her maternal family. she has
to
make a place for herself in the new family. from childhood a girl is
told
that once you go over there you can come back only as a dead body. you
must
bear with everything. don't complain. don't come back. the prestige of
the
family depends on her staying."
mrs. dandavate said that one of the most encouraging developments over
the
last year or two is the willingness of more families to allow a daughter
to
return home in time of distress or danger, often saving her life.
special police units
laws have also been passed requiring prosecution for harassment and
mental
torture as well as physical abuse of women. new delhi and some other
cities
have set up special police units for dealing with crimes against women.
the struggle continues, however, to get the laws enforced. in a recent
book,
"brides are not for burning," the author, ranjana kumar, documented
cases of
official delays, legal maneuvers and tampered evidence.
women's rights advocates are also campaigning to convince other indians
that
women are equal and entitled to equal treatment.
above all, mrs. dandavate said, "a woman must learn to value her own
life."

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at 01:04 am 8/7/98 edt, kara runge wrote:
>the cat that has died....needlessly...out of what human emotion?


actually, i think (i *bet*) this ties into amy's real life:  she had a cat
that
died of felv (feline leukemia virus); and secure yourself was actually
written about this cat/its death.  (if i am correct in *assuming* that this
line in ptntf comes from the same experience w/ the same cat, which i
somehow feel is the case:  i just feel like that from the lyrics of sy, she
felt
very deeply for this friend, and it doesn't suprise me that she would
mention him/her in more than one song.)

leigh ann
**a vet tech who takes care of may people's pets on a daily basis, but for
some reason is having trouble coming to terms with leaving her babies
with a pet-sitter whilst she & the hubby go on vacation next week.**

it's the whole *i'm the only one who can really take care of them* complex,
dontcha know....  total paranoia.  that's all.  but they're *my girls*!!!
you can't really blame me!

y'all have fun while i'm gone....

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>>the cat that has died....needlessly...out of what human emotion?
>
>
>actually, i think (i *bet*) this ties into amy's real life:  she had a
cat
>that
>died of felv (feline leukemia virus); and secure yourself was actually
>written about this cat/its death.

but this is not a case of "pushing the needle too far."  its just a
disease...its nothing you can really predict or something that can be
caused by something a human does to "numb" themselves.  i think its more
related with the burning cats in dead man's hill.  that stuff was  pure
evil (as she says...but she didn't say much, didn't she just watch with
horror...it seems to fit in a bit better......

i don't think i'm supporting myslef much right now, am i?  oh well, i'm
tired...just got back from cleveland lilith fair....
anyway...i really don't know.....
carol

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i found this really kick-ass article in nando(the news and observer) that i
thought some people might like. i did!!!!!
______________________________________________________________________
crunch, crunch. that's the sound of broken glass ceilings, thanks to the
powerful voices of the female musicians who are part of lilith fair.
organized by canadian songstress sarah mclachlan, lilith fair is neither
the beginning nor the culmination of the rise of female singers. it is
just a demonstration of the growing audience -- which includes both
women and men -- that these musicians can attract.

the success of mclachlan's nationwide tour provides a revealing look
into a genre that still has room to expand. prior to the tour, only a
handful of lilith performers -- mclachlan, jewel, sheryl crow, and the
indigo girls -- received regular radio play. some of the others like
fiona apple and paula cole are just now hitting superstar status. the
rest of the lineup was obscure or undiscovered.

however, with the birth of lilith fair, many of the female performers
are experiencing the mainstream spotlight for the first time. two months
ago radio stations might have played mclachlan's "possession" twice a
week; now, i can find it at least twice a day.

maybe i'm hearing relative unknowns like abra moore on the radio now,
but what happens when lilith fair is over?

while stars like jewel and sheryl crow will remain on g105's music
rotation for a long time, the possiblity remains that we'll never hear
from joan osborne or emmylou harris again. and i dance gleefully in my
car whenever "closer to fine" or "shame on you" blares through my
speakers, but i still wonder if they will be the only indigo girls radio
hits.

obviously, these women cannot rely on the fickle radio stations nor the
image-conscious mtv to boost their appeal. this is where lilith fair
really shines: it's a nondiscriminating, nurturing forum for female
musicians to be "respected and loved for what they say," according to
mclachlan. maybe their lyrics are too political or soul-baring for five
o'clock radio, but somehow the fans keep coming -- and they bring
friends, who will bring other friends to the next concert, and so on.

the tour will open the door for many rising new stars, who will find
instantaneous fans in their lilith audiences, some of whom are the most loyal
fans in the music
business. i know that i went to great lengths to get gold circle seats
for the raleigh show. i never got them, but once the indigo girls took
the stage, i didn't care where i was sitting or why the guy in front of
me was wearing a hat. i would honestly consider driving through two
states to see one of their full-length concerts.

such loyalty isn't bred in the top 40. i recently rocked to omc's "how
bizarre," but i seriously doubt i'll buy the act's album, or even hear
from it two months from now. radio hits come and go.

maybe the women in lilith fair won't receive the radio play that they
deserve, but they will keep attracting the audiences. they will continue
to inspire and perservere, venue after venue, state after state, tour
after tour -- just as they have for years and years.

lilith fair will be back next year, even stronger. there will be more
performers, more dates, more fans. and it won't happen because the women
were radio or mtv hits. it will happen because they are strong,
beautiful, determined and unafraid to speak their minds. they know that
being excluded from mainstream will not deter their success.

this isn't some women in rock era or a female "trend," because those
terms imply a short amount of time. these women have been and will be
around -- maybe the mainstream just never noticed.

i think the music industry will have a lot to think about while cleaning
up all the glass.

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i was just getting ready for bed, yes it is 3:30am, and it struck me that most
of the list will be in newport this weekend!  and we seem to have no formal
plans to get together!  how silly!!!

wow!  the list will be just about dead this weekend! either we will have loads
of mail when we get back from people sad they did not get to go, or our email
boxes will be empty!

i guess we should just wait until tuesday!  then our boxes will be full of
newport reviews!

just the random thoughts of a sleepy person!  hehehe!

babs: who thinks kris in new york rocks for taking her to ri!

i want my indigo girls!!!  and mm!!!

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hey folks,

there are some pictures of the girls and many other
lilith artists here:

http://www.bigadventures.com/photo/lilith/story.html

the pictures were taken at one of the gorge lilith
stops...

-sherlyn
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date:         fri, 7 aug 1998 04:47:02 edt
reply-to:     kayetea@aol.com
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   does anybody know a site where i can order indigo girls posters on-line? my
walls are looking a little plain. thanks!
                                                       --katy

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date:         fri, 7 aug 1998 00:50:31 -0800
reply-to:     "c. jane run" <gbn101@juno.com>
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from:         "c. jane run" <gbn101@juno.com>
subject:      re: the queen and the soldier

in the little blurb in the nis songbook, amy  states that ptntf is about
"the things people do to numb themselves to the pain of thier situation"
so, if we're dealing with the same queen as vega, then her closing the
door took place when she excorted the solger out, right before she
ordered him killed, right?  so nobody spared his life, she just decided
not to listen.  thus numbing herself the the reality.
as for "i'm not makig excuses/ but i've been there a few times/ i was
knocking on her door", we see here that amy/the nattator has been in the
position of the solger but understands the queen's motivation in her
action, her distance (i think i know what's wrong).
the point about the girl needing (or feeling she needs) the gun for
protection interested me, i had always thought of her as suicidal as she
was connected to the boy who o.d.ed.
to me, this song appears to be about understanding the motivations of
"people who turn" from pain but points out the need cease the behavior.
this could apply to family secerets, swallowing grief, or even something
pollitical sucha as ignoring the explotation of those in seemingly
distant environments.  i'd love to keep hearing other folks' takes on
this song.

just my 12:50am 2 cents worth.  =)

<< if the queen closed the door before the soldier came in, as amy
suggests in ptntk, wouldn't she be *sparing* his life then?>>

<< "...understand why she closed the door..."  (and left the soldier out
to dry...)>>

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date:         fri, 7 aug 1998 09:24:04 -0400
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from:         mike cunningham <mcunningham5@earthlink.net>
subject:      re: the roxy
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bon matin kind friends,
(i saw phish last night so "kind" has a new meaning today)

anyway, here's my wrap-up mini-review (long) on the roxy, now that we have a
set-list nailed down (minus that unknown song).

soy & then it's alright started the night & after two bands and a lot of
waiting they got the show groovin' right away.  but it wasn't until go
(problem child) that my indiglowin' began.  i realized suddenly "hey!  amy &
emily are singing for me!!!!!" during go, and it was just such a kick arce
song (my fave new amy).  emily just makes this song awesome even though amy
is the focal point of course.

eiiot was pretty - but it didn't have that very cool eriee-feeling that it
sometimes does and makes your little neck hairs stand up when she hits those
high notes at the end - but it was still amazing to hear emily belt this
song out.  gone again has an awesome feel to it - i think she mentioned
georgia and everyone went nutz, well briefly anyway.  gone again has such a
great little tempo goin' and the lyrics fit so well - it's great to see amy
puttin' together these great emily-esque tunes.

least complicated, galileo, & a little po2 really had the crowd going!  all
the parts where we got to sing (well, at least attempt to sing!) it was
awesome!!!  we got both of them smilin' everytime we were beltin' out some
lyrics.  i said to myself - "this ain't no lilith fair!  it's ig in
hotlanta!!!"  it made it feel like one big party / big happy family (or any
other little sayings you'd like :).

and also during gotm, at one point emily was looking at the people singing &
goin' crazy to her left and she had a big 'ol grin on - but right after that
came the line "why do we hurtle ourselves through every inch of time &
space..." and she reallllly belted that one out! - and especially hearing
the next mumbled (awesome) line by amy, (maybe standing on a corner...yada
yada) i heard a collective "ahhhhhhh... .(or maybe that was just my tummy
growlin')

the sb soc was a little tame - it sort of ended abruptly with none of the
crazy amy strummin' that i was hopin' for. (maybe she wanted to give sulli a
guitar-stringing break once in a while?)  but love's recovery was the best!
it was sort of a surprise to me, but it was just soooooo beautiful and it
was just such a great change of pace with all the other rawkin' tunes.

thin line was great & so was that last song w/ dede vogt - and after they
finished up - i was definitely a happy clam goin' to bed that night!  and
the kingdom lay back down to sleep, preparing for the next feast that will
soon come its' way...  "bring us shrubberies!!!"  <...tangents...>

and the unknown song was decent - it just seemed a song w/out a chorus, or
without a structure to it - or maybe that's just because i'm unfamiliar w/
it.  but neuva, gone, & go are mucho bettero amy songs imho...

8-o
8-)
thanks for listening!

five generations running fast
these things will not pass
this debtor's blood runs in my veins
i can't change anything
i said no no no

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date:         fri, 7 aug 1998 12:01:42 -0400
reply-to:     elaine bean <efbean@erols.com>
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from:         elaine bean <efbean@erols.com>
subject:      newport folk festival
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hi,
i just came into possession of one saturday nff ticket (a friend can't
use it and asked if i knew anyone who wanted it) - she'll let it go for
$30.00.  any interest in this?  i know it's last, last minute.
elaine

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date:         fri, 7 aug 1998 12:19:54 -0400
reply-to:     karen jones <kmj5m@virginia.edu>
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from:         karen jones <kmj5m@virginia.edu>
subject:      norfolk tickets
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i know everyone is busy getting ready for nff, i am so sad
i can't go.  i was wondering though if anyone knows info on
getting tickets for the suffragette on sept 1 in norfolk.
i looked it up on the ticketmaster webpage, but they either
don't have it listed, or aren't the ones selling tickets.
let me know if you have any info.

karen

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*  i'm gonna drink that sun.             *
*  i'm gonna love you good and strong,   *
*  while our love is good and young."    *
*                --indigo girls          *
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date:         fri, 7 aug 1998 12:24:52 -0400
reply-to:     karen jones <kmj5m@virginia.edu>
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july 13, 1998
  indigo girls in suffragette city
  the indigo girls are
  putting another
  all-female show on the
  road. after a stint with
  the mighty lilith fair,
  the girls have decided to go organic and stage a series
  of grass-roots shows, dubbed the suffragette sessions
  tour. hitting the road with them will be drummer kate
  schellenbach from luscious jackson, former breeder
  josephine wiggs, singer-violinist lisa germano,
  canadian chanteuse jane siberry, bowie bassist gail
  ann dorsey, lourdes perez, jean smith from mecca
  normal, and singer-guitarist thalia zedek from indie
  supergroup come. and in a move that's sure to inspire
  brainstorming (not to mention cycle influencing), all 12
  performers will be traveling in the same tour bus.

  while both lilith and suffragette are all-female, the
  similarities end there. unlike lilith, these concerts will
  have a definite "jam" vibe going on, with participants
  joining each other in various combinations, creating
  unique and spontaneous music each and every night-
  that, and the stages will be much smaller than the
  huge venues lilith has been playing.

  the apparent inspiration for the show comes more from
  bob dylan's 1975-76 rolling thunder revue, rather
  than sarah mclachlan's creation. the former tour saw
  a varied cast of musicians (dylan, joan baez, kinky
  friedman, t-bone burnett, bob neuwirth, and others)
  indulge in collaborations on small stages, creating a
  much looser, free-wheeling energy.

  the suffragette sessions tour kicks off aug. 19 in
  portland, maine, and wends its way through cities east
  of the mississippi until its end date in new york. the
  tour will be playing in relatively small venues, ensuring
  the preservation of the intimacy such a tour invokes.
  audience response will determine whether or not the
  suffragettes will make this an annual event

  suffragette sessions tour dates

  aug. 19-tba, portland, maine
  aug. 20-memorial auditorium, burlington, vt.
  aug. 22-agora, cleveland, ohio
  aug. 24-state theater, detroit, mich.
  aug. 25-riviera, chicago, ill.
  aug. 26-riviera, chicago, ill.
  aug. 27-tba, milwaukee, wis.
  aug. 28-first avenue, minneapolis, minn.
  aug. 30-bogart's, cincinnati, ohio
  sept. 1-boathouse, norfolk, va.
  sept. 2-electric factory, philadelphia, pa.
  sept. 3-roseland ballroom (tentative), new york,
  n.y.

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date:         fri, 7 aug 1998 19:18:44 -0700
reply-to:     melissa singhaus <msinghaus@msmisp.com>
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i am going with my friends from pa and was wondering if any ig fans will be
there. if so maybe we could run into each other or have some way of knowing
that we are from the list. missy

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date:         sat, 8 aug 1998 09:25:47 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

this was sent to the news list...

-sherlyn


>date: fri, 7 aug 1998 14:32:19 -0600
>to: indigo girls news list <ig-news@smoe.org>
>from: margaret clayton <margaret@uchicago.edu>
>subject: [ig-news] indigo girls celebrate ngltf's 25th anniversary
>
>begin forwarded material:
>> >sender: listprob@list.ngltf.org
>> >mime-version: 1.0
>> >precedence: bulk
>> >date:  wed, 5 aug 98 10:28:26 -0400
>> >from: ngltf <ngltf@ngltf.org>
>> >to: multiple recipients of activist - sent by <ngltf@ngltf.org>
>> >subject:  indigo girls celebrate ngltf's 25th anniversary
>> >x-mime-autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by
>> >plaisance.uchicago.edu id maa17312
>> >
>> >***********************************************
>> >national gay and lesbian task force
>> >press release
>> >
>> >contact:
>> >tracey conaty, communications director
>> >202-332-6483 ext. 3303
>> >800-757-6476 pager
>> >tconaty@ngltf.org
>> >
>> >http://www.ngltf.org
>> >2320 17th street nw, washington, dc 20009
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>> >
>> >indigo girls celebrate ngltf's 25th anniversary
>> >with sold out show;
>> >
>> >emily saliers speaks out against discrimination
>> >
>> >washington, dc---august 3, 1998--- the grammy award-winning
>> >indigo girls is joining in the celebration of the national gay
>> >and lesbian task force (ngltf) 25th anniversary year, donating
>> >all proceeds from an upcoming performance in washington, d.c.
>> >to the task force. the duo, amy ray and emily saliers, both out
>> >lesbians, are known for their stirring folk-rock music, avid and
>> >loyal following, and active support of a number of social
>> >justice issues. the duo is performing in washington on august 10
>> >at the 9:30 club.
>> >
>> >"we are thrilled to have the indigo girls support ngltf's 25
>> >years of commitment to change," said task force executive director
>> >kerry lobel. "amy and emily's active support of equality and
>> >justice for all people, including gay, lesbian, bisexual, and
>> >transgender people, is an invaluable part of our struggle."
>> >
>> >indigo girl emily saliers states, "although we've come a long way,
>> >the gay rights movement has a long way to go. amidst a barrage of
>> >anti-gay advertisement and legislation, we come together to play
>> >music and raise money for groups like the national gay and lesbian
>> >task force who will implement positive change for gay and straight
>> >people everywhere."
>> >
>> >saliers added, "we will not forget the gay teen suicides, the
>> >bashing, discrimination and homophobia rampant in this country.
>> >rather, we will come together through music and hard work to help
>> >create a world where all people are equally respected as human
>> >beings and protected from discrimination based on sexual orientation."
>> >
>> >the indigo girls were recently the target of discrimination this past
>> >spring when three of their free high schools shows were cancelled
>> >because of their sexual orientation.  true to form, the duo went on
>> >with the show, performing free concerts after school hours and off
>> >school grounds.
>> >
>> >-30-
>> >
>> >
>> >_____________________________________________________________________
>> >
>> >founded in 1973, the national gay and lesbian task force works to
>> >eliminate prejudice, violence and injustice against gay, lesbian, bisexual
>> >and transgendered people at the local, state and national level. as part
>> >of a broader social justice movement for freedom, justice and equality,
>> >ngltf is creating a world that respects and celebrates the diversity of
>> >human expression and identity where all people may fully participate in
>> >society.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> end forwarded material

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date:         fri, 7 aug 1998 17:33:21 pdt
reply-to:     jill again <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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>>the cat that has died....needlessly...out of what human emotion?

did this line remind anyone else of the line "cats on fire, a burning
spiral," from dead man's hill?

out of what human emotion?  the desire of those powerless in their own
lives to exert control over *something.*

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date:         fri, 7 aug 1998 17:53:48 pdt
reply-to:     jill again <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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as per amy's explanation on shades of indigo:

pushing the needle too far:
the needle can be interpreted as "both a meter and iv [drugs]". it's not
a literal needle, like in "the needle and the damage done."
the song is about "when people dehumanize things so they don't have to
deal with them."
it is a picture painted out of some alienating situations in her life.

if i have a great deal of time and/or nothing to do, i can transcribe
the actual discussion.

jill

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date:         fri, 7 aug 1998 21:45:45 -0500
reply-to:     sue kwan <skwan@midway.uchicago.edu>
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hey peeps...

someone said earlier that mm might be at the halsted street festival in
chi-town on saturday.  then, another person said that it was kinda not
possible for her to be.

well, just to clear things up, she's gonna be here.  sez so right here in
the sun times.  she hits the stage at 6pm.

therefore, for those who are not fortunate enough to go to newport and are
in this neck o' da woods, go see michelle.  it is technically
free....kinda. they ask for a $2 donation.  two bucks to see michelle.  you
can't go wrong!

so go!

p.s.   gee....we seem quiet today...did the whole friggin list go to
newport and not tell me??  oh well....quiet is good, for a change

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