lifeblood: listlogs: 1998-08d


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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 00:11:50 edt
reply-to:     chance0631@aol.com
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non-ig
"the heart has its reasons which reason does not know."    pascal

ig
"...smarter than the tricks played on your heart
we'll look at them together
then we'll take them apart"
emily sailers

"...only crime was looking up the truth."
amy ray (i think, i've loaned my music and i have had a brain injury, forgive
me if i've misquoted or misrepresented, i'm working with damaged grey matter
here!)

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 00:12:00 edt
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friends,

        i'm a true-blue, dedicated, devoted, stuck like glue, admiring, fan of the
goddess we call emily.  i fell in love with her mind from the first moment i
heard ctf, fell in deeper when i heard prince of darkness.
        my deep admiration of emily has grown and prospered over the years, and in
some cultures it may be called sick.  (or at the mildest, obsession.--my gf is
jealous because it's emily's picture that is in my wallet).  i feel like her
lyrics have helped to salvage me from deepest despair.  i relate to her
intensity, to her fixation on relationships, her love of grammar and english,
her desire to be a teacher. . . we're the same sun sign.
        i love her poetry, her guitar, her diversity.  i love her insightful thoughts
(think of fare thee well versus left me a fool).    she is beautiful,
friendly, upbeat and positive.  talented, yet modest.  southern and real.  she
is my hero.  i had never had a hero before i heard emily, and i found in her a
beautiful mix of creativity, self-honesty and humor.   (i remember jazz fest
in '96 when she belted out, during southland in the  springtime *when god made
me born a yankee she was teasing*)  she is strong and admirable  (*and i will
not be a pawn for the prince of darkness any longer*)

        thank god for this list.  how else could i praise emily for  so long without
being laughed at!?  and thank god, also, for emily saliers, a genius, who is
quite worthy of all praise.

        rereading, i think to myself, yep, i'm fixated.

        <you know you're obsessed when you have a large ceramic zebra named emilyin
your living room>

        i'll be lurking for a while now.  <ahem>  thanks.

        "and still i feel it's alright, cause i just got a letter to my soul. . ."
--emily

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 00:39:40 edt
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from:         alison vickery <opihf@aol.com>
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date: sat, 22 aug 1998 00:36:34 edt
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hey everyone...just thought i'd say hello, since i just subscribed.  my name's
alison.  i live in northern ca, and i've been a fan for about 10 years now.
some of you know me from the newsgroup already.  i've seen the girls 10 times
total- 5 of which were this year.  thanks for letting me join in.

favorite quotes:

i will not be complacent! ~amy ray in a major rant during touch me fall many
years ago.

if music could only bring peace, i'd only be a musician... ~pete seeger

(slightly paraphrased)  stand up strongly for what you believe today.  stand
up strongly for what you believe tomorrow even if it doesn't agree with what
you believed in yesterday.  ~thoreau (i think)


alison/opus/opihf(many names, many moods)

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 00:53:58 edt
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sys stands for shed your skin. =)

my fav quote...*it's alright if you hate that way, hate me cuz i'm different,
hate me cuz i'm gay...* ---amy ray

----lindy =)

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date:         fri, 21 aug 1998 22:25:50 pdt
reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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from:         lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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have they done this live on this tour yet????

*hugs*

lamia

"if emily [saliers] was a man, she'd be gerard mchugh."
--my sister lel, after listening to the more than i cd.

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date:         fri, 21 aug 1998 22:29:50 -0700
reply-to:     "6:58, are you sure where my spark is?" <sgb29641@email.csun.edu>
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from:         "6:58, are you sure where my spark is?" <sgb29641@email.csun.edu>
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        oh, please . . . don't make me decide!  (i'm fried as it is from
filtering through all this mail, no thanks to csun for choosing the times
when i actually happen to be on to close down for server maintenance.)
as for which i prefer, it really depends on my mood.  i love the raw
power and emotion of amy's voice and lyrics, but i love equally the
clarity and sweetness of emily's voice, and her lyrics for being so rich
and evocative.  when i'm in more of an introspective, peaceful mood, the
balance of my favor swings toward emily (with the exception of some of
the sots material, i.e. "it's alright"), and when i'm more energetic
and/or angry, feeling expressive (in a "i want to fling my arms out wide
and shout to the heavens" sort of way), whatever, i prefer amy.
        i will say this, though: as much as emily's voice makes me want
to cry sometimes (it's just so great), only amy's sexy voice makes me
weak in the knees.  ;)  wooo  *shivers*  so basically i guess it comes
down to the fact that i like them both pretty much equally but in
different ways, but amy has a slight edge, voice-wise.  ;)

        screaming in cathedrals,
        shanie
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"i guess i'm an underwater thing so i guess i can't take it personally; i
guess i'm an underwater thing, i'm liquid running. . .  there's a sea
secret in me--it's plain to see that it is rising, but i must be flowing
liquid diamonds. . ."
                                        -- tori amos, "liquid diamonds"

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date:         fri, 21 aug 1998 23:41:27 pdt
reply-to:     swamp ophelia <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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from:         swamp ophelia <jillyc@hotmail.com>
subject:      *why* oh why do i have a fan club?!
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will any and all members of the infamous jilly fan club puh-leeese
                                               step forward
and freaking *email* me, for the love of pete wells?! i do not bite.
often.

eagerly awaiting to hear from the (perhaps delusional?) masses,
your beloved (ha)

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date:         fri, 21 aug 1998 23:52:44 pdt
reply-to:     swamp ophelia <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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from:         swamp ophelia <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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regarding the listmeet quandry:
should we choose to gather *after* the show, there are many restaurants
(dick's last resort and max&erma's, for ex.) within immediate walking
distance of the odeon that are open, on saturdays, until 2 a.m.
there is *no* 24-hour eatery, that i am aware of, on the east bank.
if a 15-minute highway drive is no problem, we can readily find a
denny's and perkins on cleveland's west side.

jill

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date:         fri, 21 aug 1998 23:58:05 pdt
reply-to:     swamp ophelia <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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the k. hall fan said she had
>about worn out my disc

i'm wondering if it really is possible to "wear out" a cd, simply by
playing it again and again.? dumb question, but we all use the
expression the chicky above wrote.

duh,
jill

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 00:08:23 pdt
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d'you think they'd make a celebrity deathmatch episode outta that one?

and

"blah dee blah dee blah."  --ani

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 00:43:37 -0700
reply-to:     java solis <worldfalls@earthlink.net>
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hey all,
well, i just got home from the vt and me suff stops.  if you can, you *must*
see this tour.  it is amazing.  i have a bazillion emails in my box, so i am
assuming that people already reviewed the shows.  however, i do have boots
of both shows.  i was in the front row for both so the sound quality is not
the best.  i'll post when i figure out the set lists and the times.  but....
  1.if people are willing to be branches please email me at
worldfalls@earthlink.net
  2.if you know how to clean up the sound on a tape that is fuzzy from being
to close to the speakers would you please email me.  these shows were *so*
good, i'd hate for people to be stuck listening to blurryness because of my
crappy stereo equipment.

shouts out to all the slinkster cool people i met waiting in line (y'alls
know who you are).  more later......java

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 04:08:23 -0500
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ok people, here is the scoop:

the list meet will occur after the show, as there are some of us that
want to wait in line so as to hopefully attain prime seats.

the meet will take place outside the odeon, and i will have a sign that
says indigohio. if i can muster it, i will also try to put mel on my
shoulders, so just look for the two weirdos on the street and you will
know you are headed in the right direction.  we will then mosey across
the street to dick's last resort for fun and folicing and everything
else, and deidre, a seasoned dick's veteran according to don, will be on
hand to help us dish back insults to the servers and such!

much thanks to don for helping me figure out the details of this meet.

see everyone there!!


peace-

karrie
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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 01:25:37 -0700
reply-to:     java solis <worldfalls@earthlink.net>
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subject:      props to sulli
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yeah sulli.....i finally got to chat with her and all i have to say is sulli
is one of the most patient and kind people around.  if anyone knows an email
addy that she wouldn't mind me emailin' her at, let me know..yeah sulli....

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 05:47:40 pdt
reply-to:     jess lopez <dopeylopey@hotmail.com>
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this is a really random question, but does anyone know what emily is
laughing at during the opening of "ghost" on 1200 curfews?
--------------------------------------------------jess____________

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 08:59:15 -0400
reply-to:     indigo head <s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu>
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hey y'all!

i finally got my cable installed here at school (been w/o cable all
summer).  so....does anyone know what time the c2f pop up video will be on
and if the new lilith special will repeat itself?  thanks a lot!

love,
karen :-)

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"i know i'm small in a way, but i know i'm strong!"
        --emily saliers aka goddess (indigo girls)
"your actions will follow you full circle round."
        --amy ray aka goddess (indigo girls)
"i left my home in georgia (illinois/ohio), headed for the
frisco bay . . . 2000 miles i roam, just to make this dock my
and i'm just sittin' on the dock of the bay wastin' time."
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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 09:28:39 edt
reply-to:     mgsb@aol.com
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could someone forward me the website for accoustic cafe with the radio sites?

thanks
sandy

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 10:09:50 edt
reply-to:     fellottsio@aol.com
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tracy wrote:
> just wondering, does anyone know what the most recent rendition of "never
> stop" and "cold of ice" would have been? have they sung either of these
within the
> last 5 years or so?  and for the bonus round... are they on any boots anyone
is
> aware of?

there's a boot of the first set at the bottom line in new york, 4/10/93, in
which they let an audience member pick the songlist for the show.  "never
stop" was one of the requests-- sounds pretty much the same as on blue food,
except that they sound more mature (for lack of a better word) in their
voices-- oh, and some percussion in the background.  don't you love that when
they sing an older song and it feels like they've opened it up more, voices
more seasoned, an elusive quality of self-amusement or attitude of total
relaxation towards such old material?  memory lapses that might manifest
themselves as innovations or tweaks here and there . . . "i know you like to
be the one on top, but stop."  amy sings it so sexy and all the girlies cheer.
:)  and some pretty funny banter after they perform it:

[basic approximation]
a: what happened to you, you used to be so light? . . .  that song is so
upbeat and light.
e: [in a valley girl voice] it's soooo queer.
a: i don't think so.  not queer.
e: [exaggerated defeat] we'll never record it again.
a: we should put it on our next album and everybody'll say we're lightening
up.
e: those indigo girls are so serious . . .
a: oh emily she's lightening up now.  it'll probably be a #1 hit and we'll
[incoherent here] feel? really stupid.

hee-hee.
otts

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 10:26:31 edt
reply-to:     ljebsen@aol.com
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i just wanted to thank everyone for the book suggestions.  i've got 6 pages to
date!  i don't have time to respond to everyone -- just know that i'm grateful
for your kindness.  this list rocks!  :)

peace,
lisa j.

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 10:44:58 edt
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someone touched on this a while ago.  i was definitely a bigger emily fan when
i first got into the girls.  (my god, we're talkin' almost 10 years now!
whew!)   i just identify with her -- i love the way her words can move me.

but anyway -- sots has me coming around to the amy camp.  i enjoy her stage
presence a lil' more than em, too.  :)

how's that for a wimpy, noncommittal answer?!  :)

peace,
lisa j -- who only has to sling coffee for 5 more days before she gets paid to
act again!  :)

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 11:51:11 edt
reply-to:     chance0631@aol.com
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subject:      re: cleveland list meet----please read all odeon concert goers!!!!
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i don't know who mel is, a kid, a fan, male or female?

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 11:55:26 edt
reply-to:     chance0631@aol.com
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subject:      cleveland-urgent!
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/does anyone know if the indians have a home game tonight?  if they do, that
will effect drive time and i'm such an organizer.  please let me know.

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 09:20:18 -0700
reply-to:     kathleen <kathleen@ucla.edu>
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i hate it when people send these messages, but i lost the original e-mail
that contains the unsubscription information.  btw, love the list, there's
just too much of it...

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date: saturday, august 22, 1998 6:19 am
subject: vh1 question


>hey y'all!
>
>i finally got my cable installed here at school (been w/o cable all
>summer).  so....does anyone know what time the c2f pop up video will be on
>and if the new lilith special will repeat itself?  thanks a lot!
>
>love,
>karen :-)
>
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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 18:16:57 +0200
reply-to:     "i am 32 flavors and then some..." <tisara@www.webworqs.com>
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subject:      re: amy vs. emily???
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i say i prefer amy just because i go more for butch grrls.  but if it were
to be based on their merit and songwriting, i couldn't choose.  amy
appeals to my raw passionate emotional side.  emily appeals to my more
emotional hear-on-sleeve side :)

--audra


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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

                                *****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
- kristen hall "just so you know"

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happy birthday to tori amos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(sorry, it has nothing to do with indigo girls, but i know people toss other
musicians' info up here sometimes, and tori's quite important!  so everyone go
light a few candles, put on your tori shirts, and have a good tori amos'
birthday!!)

love,
alissa

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amy appeals to my dark side, my inner self.  emily appeals to my optimistic
side, my inner self.  a choice, that's like asking would you ratner your
mother or your father die?

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 13:12:01 edt
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hi- it's lynn in ohio
you remember me.  i'm the one that had the brain injury (bi).  you shouldn't
already know this, bi cause permanent loss of logic abilities, confusion and
make you lose your sense of direction.  i am so ashamed to say this at the
grownup age of 37, feeling a bit like the cowardly lion.  i'm scared.  i've
never been to a concert by myself.  and, never been to the flats before.  i'm
nervous and scared.  how about some ig quotes to help me find my courage.
thanks in advance for your kindness.

hope springs eternal
lynn

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 10:16:33 pdt
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hi ya'll i'm really behind in my list mail because i'm doing a bunch of
homepage stuff!
but i wanted to let ya'll know that i'm currently working on indigo
girls site awards. there are going to be 4.
one for very small sites, 2 for regular sized sites, and one for truly
unique content..there's also going to be one for any women in music
site.
i've got the graphics all done, i just have to make the respective
pages. if anyone here has a tori site  you may want to check out my tori
awards:
http://members.tripod.com/~lady_lamia/awards.html

i just have never noticed any indigo awards and figured with so many
cool pages out there, there should be some! so anyhow..let me know if
there's any interest in this, and i'll post the addy when i get
everything ready!

*hugs*

lamia


"..you grow up little girl
you paint them toes the redest color
and you know one day you're gonna be bigger than a flea.."
--tori amos frog on my toe (as sang 8/14/98)

"..we're pretty cool, we've got all the big ideas..."
--new mongrels
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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 10:42:26 -0600
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subject:      nigc:  denver/boulder list members

i'm looking for any denver/boulder list members out there who might be
interested in a list meet.

sorry for the b/w.

cheers,
l'sly

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"wanna fly? you gotta give up the shit that weighs you down"
   -toni morrison

"over and over, we begin again"
   -banana yoshimoto, kitchen

"we are the music makers and we are the dreamers of dreams"
   -willy wonka

"...ecoute voir ici: life is short, but it is wide.  this too shall pass."
   -"teensy"; rebecca wells, divine secrets of the ya-ya sisterhood

"inherit the wind"
   -proverbs 11:29

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 11:54:45 -0600
reply-to:     margaret clayton <margaret@uchicago.edu>
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i don't know if anyone else has been looking for rose polenzani's cd (she's
the woman who played the song "olga's birthday" during the ig's set at
newport), but i've stumbled across this info. and she asked me to pass it
on to the list.*  send check or money order payable to rose polenzani to:

rose polenzani
c/o gabriel unger artist management
69 williams st.
jamaica plain,  ma  02130

while she prefers that you order as above, you can also order via her
website at http://www.rosepolenzani.com.

margaret


*funny story:  i wasn't immediately sold after newport, and i wanted to get
the %^#$ out of fort adams, so i decided i'd try to buy it later.  i called
every store i could find in boston, cambridge, northampton, and amherst,
but no place had ever heard of her.  so i came back to chicago, where i
live, and wondered what to do next.  i had played the song for a bunch of
my friends here, and they all liked it.  we were driving along yesterday on
the north side of the city, talking about what step to take next, when i
thought i heard her name on the radio.  it was the end of a commercial, and
all we heard after that was "schuba's," which is a little bar/music club
that was close by.  we decided to stop in "just in case," and she was
playing at that moment on some newport second stage on the road tour.  we
bought tickets and heard her set (it was good), during which she said she
is from chicago.  how ironic, as alanis uses the word.  so we bought cds
from her afterwards, finally!  small world (or something).

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hey all...


if anyone has any extra tix for tonights show, or know of anyone who would be
willing to part with them...please e-mail me...i am desperate and would be
willing to do anything!!

meaghan

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 19:56:10 +0000
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subject:      vligc: cooper tisdale

hey!

been surfin' again and found cooper tisdale's homepage (she ahs
played with ig and kristen hall). there are soundbytes off of her new
album and lots of other things, plus you can drop cooper a line, if
you like.

it's at:
http://www.mindspring.com/~sjolie/

just thought someone might be interested:-).

have a great weekend everybody!


peace and
take care.

kathrin
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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 14:48:47 edt
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hey all!

it seems like folks need stuff to read of late, so i am putting together a
book list of new and good reads for the list!  if you want the book list,
please email me and i will get back to you by monday!


i work in a book store so there are books i get to see that you all may not
have seen or heard off.

hope this find you all well!

babs

ps: sorry for the nigc!

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i'm leaving now, 5 hours oughta help me not get lost so as not to find the ig
concert.  it's a 1 hr. trip.  have you checked out holly cole's dark dear
heart, song, "make it go away"?  my god, it makes me cry.  good stuff, really!

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i have to weigh in on this one.  while i admire emily's sweet, clear voice and
amazing songwriting ability, i definitely have a huge thang for amy.  the raw
emotion and passion she shows are incredible.  for example, her touch me fall
socs, songs like romeo and juliet, and her performance as jesus in jcs all
just knock me out.  perhaps because it's unusual to see a woman demonstarting
such power and energy?  and i have to say, after finally seeing the girls up
close and personal tis year (autograph signing at lilith), amy is even more
sexy in person.  sigh.  the first time i saw them was in 1989 at a little show
at stanford university- i didn't know much about them, only owned indigo girls
(i think strange fire was out but i didn't have it), and i remember clearly
talking about how emily's voice was obviously more trained, but amy's just
rang out with feeling.

my 25 cents on the matter,
alison

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 12:18:24 -0700
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on sat, 22 aug 1998, alissa d. irving wrote:

> happy birthday to tori amos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> (sorry, it has nothing to do with indigo girls, but i know people toss other
> musicians' info up here sometimes, and tori's quite important!  so everyone go
> light a few candles, put on your tori shirts, and have a good tori amos'
> birthday!!)

        well, emily *does* list tori's "little earthquakes" album as one
of her favorites, so in a roundabout sort of way i suppose it does have
something to do with the girls . . .  ;)
        *breaks out the bottle of sparkling apple juice, not being old
enough to snag some champagne*  unfortunately, i wore my tori shirt the
other day and it's in the wash now.  :/  heh . . . happy birthday, tori!  :)

        screaming in cathedrals,
        shanie
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"i guess i'm an underwater thing so i guess i can't take it personally; i
guess i'm an underwater thing, i'm liquid running. . .  there's a sea
secret in me--it's plain to see that it is rising, but i must be flowing
liquid diamonds. . ."
                                        -- tori amos, "liquid diamonds"

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 12:46:05 -0700
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my last few boots have a few spots where the volume dips really low and
then comes back up to normal very quickly. does anyone know why it does
that? i've pretty much ruled out the batteries, the tapes, and i didn't
have on the pause button so it's not that. do i just need to find a new
recorder, or can i fix this? thanks to whoever can give me some info.
-sam (who'd like to mention that the train ride to atlanta took her right
through the infamous gainesville...it looks kinda depressing)

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 21:57:41 +0200
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i love ms. hall *grins* to my knowledge the albums she has out are be
careful what you wish for, real life stuff, and fact and fiction.  she
also has a few demo collections...thumbprint is the one i can think of
right offhand...but there are a few others.  she has a nifty web page
up...doa web search for it if you don't already know of its existence...

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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

                                *****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
- kristen hall "just so you know"

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 17:27:21 -0400
reply-to:     virginia fuller <fuller@fas.harvard.edu>
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the playlist for next week's show is posted on the web now
(http://www.acafe.com).  the girls will be playing "gone again," "it's
alright," "galileo," and "go."  they will be split up though - the first two
in the first half of the show, the second two in the second half.

it looks like they are also playing a shawn mullins song near the beginning
- yay!

can't wait till monday to hear it!

virginia :)

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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 14:37:06 pdt
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why do i like amy better? hormones. *l*
no actually i can say that i like them about the same.
when it comes to song writing, even with how great her songs have been
lately amy cannot touch emily. they're not even in the same league.
emily's like dar williams to me..her songs make me cry.
but amy has personality (not that emily doesn't!) she's intense, firey,
passionate, and let's face it guy or girl, straight or gay amy's a good
looking person!! :) fine as hell in my opinion. nothing makes your heart
go pitty pat like watching amy growl into a microphone.

now i know there are exceptions to this. my best friend cindy is an
emily person 100%. she thinks emily is the fine one. but i mean they're
both beautiful in my opinion, they're both tallented, and i don't think
that solo either one of them would be nearly as good overall or have
achieved the sucess they have...
but amy is to some of us what leonardo dicaprio is to teenyboppers..
seeing her in a leather jacket with her hair messed up is enough to make
any of us squeal like a 12 year old!
nuff said! :)

*hugs*

lamia

"if emily [saliers] was a man, she'd be gerard mchugh."
--lel my sis, after hearing more than i for the first time.

"i almost ran over an angel..."
--tori amos, leather

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in a message dated 98-08-21 16:38:21 edt, tahmehawk writes:


ok, this is the second time i'll have posted this.  no one answered my post
the first time.  i would love to know the answer to this if anyone knows it.
so here is my post:


<< hello all,

i was wondering if anyone knows all the words in sys?  actually, i'm referring
and curious about the next to the last verse.   on the sots tape i have all
the words are printed on the pull out cover, expect that one verse.....why is
that?   and damn if i can figure it out what amy is singing there!   i would
love to know the words, so if anyone knows them could you please pass them on?
:-)
sorry if this has already been posted, but i'm kind of a newbie on the
list....only been here a couple months or so.
  >>

lynn   :-)    <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
tahmehawk's place</a>

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hello all,

i was wondering if anyone knows all the words in sys?  actually, i'm referring
and curious about the next to the last verse.   on the sots tape i have all
the words are printed on the pull out cover, expect that one verse.....why is
that?   and damn if i can figure it out what amy is singing there!   i would
love to know the words, so if anyone knows them could you please pass them on?
:-)
sorry if this has already been posted, but i'm kind of a newbie on the
list....only been here a couple months or so.

thanks,

lynn   :-)    <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
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hey yall
i am welcoming myself back to the list, since i have been off all summer, its
nice to be back.

to those who want me to dub for them orwho i am supposed to trade with, give
me a week or two and lemme get to school first, then i can start spinning
again.
also to those who are a part of the bootleg page and want their lists or links
updated lemme know,  or if you would like to be a part of it, i can put your
list up for you.  i am going to fix it up a bit also (one day) so it will look
nicer and work correctly.

finally for a bit of randomness that in no way pertains to ig but amused me
and i thought i would share.  since i cant go see sonia tonight cause i am not
21 i was browsing cdnow to see how much money i could spend, and i was lookin
at sonia's stuff because for some odd reason i like to look and listen to
music  i already have as if i were buying it. dont ask. anyways. so i go to
the "if you like so and so you will like this person" section and for one of
the things says if you like sonia you will like ozzy osbourne: the ozzman
cometh.  i apologize of you dont find this funny. i am laughing. i think i
wanna ask that album advisor guy what he is talking about (not meant to bash
any ozzy fans, just a random opinion.

sorry for the waste of bandwidth, i shall go now

peace
sasha

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anyone else going to see wendy bucklew tonight in ventura?

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if you are looking for lyrics the best place i have found is here:
http://www.lyrics.ch/

all the dar williams lyrics. all ig, all k's choice, all the toris
including b-sides.

check it out!

*hugs*

lamia


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--lel my sis, after hearing more than i for the first time.

"i almost ran over an angel..."
--tori amos, leather

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ok.  so no one has answered my questions yet.  does that mean that there
are no boots for the lilith shows on the 17th and the 18th of july?  i
find that kinda hard to believe.  the 17th was at the ee center and the
18th was at merriweather.  if you by chance happen to have a boot of one
or both of these shows, email me cuz no one else has.  thank you ohhhh
soooo muchly :)

and my fav qoute right now is
"i have no need for anger with intimate strangers"  amy
jill

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hey folks,

lynn asked:
>i was wondering if anyone knows all the words in sys?  actually, i'm
referring
>and curious about the next to the last verse.   on the sots tape i have all

this is from the faq:

16.7. what is that extra verse in "shed your skin"?

the words are almost impossible to make out but the extra verse is
something like, "i been lucky to find you / but it's a little too
late, too soon / when i look in doubt and fire / the spirits i abuse
in you / in you / in you..."

... i don't guarantee that those words are correct but
that's the best we could come up with...

:)
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ok.  so.  hmppffh.

i'm watching mtv and they have another stupid lilith
spoof thing and that gay shirt again and i'm getting
annoyed.  when i went to lilith i saw many more str8
chicks with their boyfriends than dykes.

it reminded me of the ig concert here last november.
there were a lot of unhappy looking men with their
girlfriends who made sure to hang on their men so
none of us would mistake them for dykes.

ok sorry to bitch,
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wanted to start off saying thank you to whoever told the mailing list about
that my-mug place... to personally create gifts.. i placed an order for a
mousepad with ani's picture on it for my best friends birthday and they had
shipped it 11
hours later!  these people really have their shit together...i think it's
http://www.my-mug.com...... hmmmmm

ok....i cant seem to get real audio to work.. any ideas?? say's i gotta dl
something new... oh well... oh hell i should be saying..

alrighty, and this amy vs. emily thing?  i hate to do it, i really hate to do
it, but ill have to admit that i am in favor of our gal emily... good
statement antigone40!!!!  yea!!!  good god she just rock my world    dk, i
really feel bad, but oh well... dat's a tuffy.... i love amy oh so much
too..well, they work best together!!!  i guess that's the best way to sum it
all up... amy wouldnt be so cool if she didnt have emily by her side at all
her concerts and vice versa!  there!  well said if i do say so myself!

good evening,
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hey all you folks out there! i know a couple people on the list are
going to the detroit suffragette sessions on monday.... i have a couple
questions about it...

-when is a good time to show up to get a good position?
-whats the best way to get there from 12 mile and northwestern? i just
moved to southfield and still don't know my way around too well...

thanks for any help i can get... i forgot my list shirt in kalamazoo :(
but i'll prolly be wearing my beat up black ig hat, ask anyone wearing
one of those if their name is amy and if it's me, we can chat. :) i'm a
dork and i know it. so sue me. :):):)
okay, have a good saturday night y'all!

peace,
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date:         sat, 22 aug 1998 19:04:35 -0700
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hey y'all.  this is my first time posting to the list..whoo hooo!!
anyways, i noticed people talking about don conosenti.  for anyone
interested, he's playing in new orleans at the neutral ground coffee
house this tuesday, the 25th, at 9:30.  see y'all there.  :) erin aka
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sorry for the double-post...

i also got the impression that more people were pro-amy on this list,
but i'm finding that to be less and less accurate...
according to my little quizlet on my ig page, 50% of all 20 (woohoo...
20 people means an higher margin of error, so go
vote!http:\\www.geocities.com/wellesley/moreig.html) respondents were
bigger emily fans.
so you'd think that the other 50% were amy, but no. 35% amy, 10% sully,
and 5% neither. hrm.

emily is hands down the better guitar player, maybe musician... but
there's just something about amy. she's got an energy all her own. that
rawness. that passion. that enigmatic troubled soul vibe. i love it. i
think if i ever meet either one of them i will be let down because i
have my own little idea of what they are each like. oh well, that's my
take on it anyway. :)

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hey all.....does anyone  know how i can get a copy of "color me gray" (i do
believe it is called) someone told me it was the first ig tape put out and i
can not get a hold of it! can anyone help?
dev

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on sat, 22 aug 1998, amanda wrote:

> ok.  so.  hmppffh.
>
> i'm watching mtv and they have another stupid lilith
> spoof thing and that gay shirt again and i'm getting
> annoyed.  when i went to lilith i saw many more str8
> chicks with their boyfriends than dykes.

        yeah, i definitely agree with that.  i had the same experience.
also, most of the artists at lilith have definite heterosexual-themed
lyrics, and it's pretty obvious!  lilith has even (as i'm sure many of
you know) come under fire from some lesbian publications for being "too
straight!"

        i'd love to whack some sense into people, sometimes . . . and
i'll stop complaining now.  :}

        screaming in cathedrals,
        shanie
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liquid diamonds. . ."
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maybe its all in the eyes of the beholder.  i saw way more gay couples at both
lilith's that i attended.  like 5 gay couples to every 1 straight couple.  i
guess it depends where you were sitting.  i was definitely in the minority
being straight.  but then both the lilith's i went to had ig there.

karen

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in a message dated 98-08-22 20:27:56 edt, hsoows@hotmail.com writes:

<<  does that mean that there
are no boots for the lilith shows on the 17th and the 18th of july?  i
find that kinda hard to believe.  the 17th was at the ee center and the
18th was at merriweather >>

hello all...
ok...so i taped the merriweather show on the 18th.  but there's two
catches...first one...its not great, but its listenable its kinda a show you
dont really need unless you were there or you have to have every show kinda
thing, two (if you are still interested)  i cannot trade or do tapes for at
least another two weeks cause i am not home long enough to get myself
organized (i just got home and i am leaving soon)  so if no one else has a
better copy, i will offer this up to the list sometime in early
september...please do not email me now about this, i will let yall know.

peace
sasha

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did anyone watch that movie on nbc tonight?  and what did you think of it, you
can email me privately or to the list, whatever : )

btw< on fuv the other day i heard my first michelle shocked song and then on
the way home from work i heard my second : )  she's cool : )

--kate

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dunno if anyone has taken this into consideration, but what about the
venue, and city?? i saw a ton of lesbian couples at lilith in san
francisco, but i doubt you will see nearly that number in dallas texas,
see what i'm getting at?

*hugs*

lamia

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couple.  i
guess it depends where you were sitting.  i was definitely in the
minority
being straight.  but then both the lilith's i went to had ig there.

karen

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hmmm. well, ig didn't play dallas which may account for a bit of that. in
general terms as many gay as straight people show up

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it is 12:30 pm on the east coast, and lisa loeb is on vh1!

what a great thing to come home to after a crappie day the book store!

woo hoo!

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well, you want gay ... try sunday at newport!

now that was gay!  i have to say all the women there that day made any of the
5 lilith fairs i have been to in the last 2 years seem down right tame!

just an observation from a straight woman who thought all the happy women were
too cool!

babs

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what's this gay t-shirt that was seen at lilith? i think i missed that, thus
i'm confused. thanks. :)

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my opinion:
fantastic, of course.  they closed with ziggy stardust.  i am embarassed to
say cleveland fans, some, were rude.  i actually heard one person yell "go
back to japan" to the opening act, buffalo girls.  people were not afraid to
scream out their opinions on what should be happening, who should be playing
and what songs.  seems many cleve's also expected an ig girls only show.
think we should remember they are artists, not robots who like to play the
same things over and over again. by the way, not to make you jealous, ha!, i
was in the first row, about 3 ft. from amy.  hard to imagine what i'll dream
about tonight!

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in response:  wherever women gather, some as hole is going to yell "dykes".
as a women, not as a lesbian, heterosexual, or bisexual, find it all  a non-
issue.  vh1 is unsuccessfully trying to be cute snd cater to the straight
masses.  there will always be someone or something yelling "queers".  i think
the point is to, as women, stick together, enjoy such celebration and turn a
deaf ear on uneducated critics.

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ok here goes...

i have be thinking about this for a while now.  i have to say that when i was
so depressed i was on the verge of doing something that i would regret,
emily's words were there to heal me.  but of late i have seen amy in a new
light.  she is amazing to look at when she sings.  i never really noticed it
before.  and her words fill up your soul.

so i guess when you do the math is comes down to....

michelle malone!

babs

"then you say that everything is gonna be alright now
then you say the words i long to hear
then i say, "what did i do to ever deserve you, now?"
when you say the words that heal my dimming soul."

mm... dimming soul (michelle malone ©1996 & 1996, strange bird songs/ensign
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hi y'all....

just wanted to share a message of hope with the list....

this evening, one of my dearest friends ever, a wonderful unknown
singer/songwriter named katie miller, exchanged vows of commitment with her
life partner, char, in one of the most beautiful and moving wedding ceremonies
i have ever witnessed....

both brides wrote their own vows, and each was visibly moved by the other's
words, as were those in attendance....  the setting was in a deep, secluded
suburban yard framed by a beautiful pine forest....

after the ceremony, several local artists performed works that they had
written specifically in honor of the occasion.....  i had the privilege of
performing first, a song called "love will light your way (love will find a
way)" which manifested itself in my conscious mind earlier this week....celia
white then recited a poem she had written for the occasion....katie followed
with a moving song which she had written for char as a wedding present.....and
then anatara, just returned from an impressive performance at this year's
woodstock festival, performed "dance with me", a song slated for their second
cd, and one of the most breathtakingly beautiful songs i've ever heard.....

the most impressive thing about the ceremony was it's "normalcy"....  just the
power of two people very obviously in love....(igc....yes!!!!!).....

it really makes society's prejudices and fears look so damn foolish.....

peace y'all....
tim

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sherlyn posted:
>the words are almost impossible to make out but the extra verse is
>something like, "i been lucky to find you / but it's a little too
>late, too soon / when i look in doubt and fire / the spirits i abuse
>in you / in you / in you..."

well, this may be just a case of a baad bad mr. limes, but i always
thought she was saying something like
i've been looking for you
but it's a little too late to assume
when i'm lookin down, i'm fine
spare(s) (me) the sight of you,
hey you, ay you...

jill

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>girlfriends who made sure to hang on their men so
>none of us would mistake them for dykes.

have you heard that urban legend that says that, within 2 minutes of
coming out to someone (or having someone realize "you're, you know,
*funny*") straight, they'll manage to work some reference to their own
(hetero)sexuality into the conversation. ya know, to make it abundantly
clear that they're not on your team.  as if you couldn't figure that out
on your own (with the 'dar and all). ha.

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>say cleveland fans, some, were rude.
ha.  oooh yeah, were they.  if you had to leave your spot on the floor
to get water or go on a potty run, there was fat chance anyone'd let you
back to your original spot.  i had women block my way and say to each
other, "don't let *anyone* through.  make a *wall*," when i tried to
bring don richard's 9-year-old granddaughter back from the bathroom.
now that's just plain rude.  they also would not dance, and if you
attempted to do so, they got pissy.  as gail (?) said, i defy you to
listen to that music and *not* bounce.  i was doing the hoppy-thrashing
thing during power of 2, and every time i landed from a jump, some girl
behind me would shove me forward.  i was also told to put my hair up
(damn stupid me, having the *gall* to bring my *hari* to the show with
me!) because the girls who were pushing me from behind didn't want it in
their way as they were edging into my spot.

>scream out their opinions on what should be happening, who should be
playing
>and what songs.  seems many cleve's also expected an ig girls only
show.
"chickenman!!!"
"scooter boys!!!"
they kept on screaming.
"midnight train to georgia!!!"
(emily finally turned around and spit out the funniest
don't-yell-at-me-chicky "maybe!"  tee hee.)
i felt bad for the acts.  emily made a comment at the end of the set,
"thanks for listenin'... sorta."  argh.

(but i'm thinkin' the crowd was nowhere as surly as that jerk at dick's.
he yelled at our table because we wanted separate checks for the
listees, and he refused to do it.  nastily. shouted at us when we
protested.)

need sleep, maybe more to say later,
jill


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<sigh>


what an incredible night, day, whatever!  it all just rocked!

it is very late and melsouth and i are heading out early once again
tomorrow for newport, so i will leave the long reviews up to other
indigohians, but i will say this:

* it was very cool to see emily and sulli and others out and about on
the streets in the afternoon hours, walking the banks of the river and
getting food and stuff and stopping and taking the time to talk with us.

* it was great to finally meet ppl and put faces with names, like lisa,
carol ann, jill, jami, and newbie lynn (who was very quiet, but gave me
a run for my money to the will-call booth!  i hope you had fun at the
show!!) and to see the old tried-to-be-true faces like don, peg, deidre,
marivel, and everyone else who attended as well...forgive me...names are
fast escaping my over-tired brain!!!

* the show itself was incredible, however, if you are not a *music* fan,
but rather more of an ig fan, it is *extremely different* than anything
you can expierience involving amy and emily.  i saw it as a very
intimate way of amy and emily saying to their fans "hey...i heard this
really talented/awesome  woman/band/song/music....here...listen..." much
like we do to our friends when we find someone new and intriguing in the
cd bin.

be warned!!  i loved this type of show, but not all of it is for
everyone!! if you really step back and appreciate the vast array of
talent on the stage and each woman's genre of music in it's own right,
then you will really love how it gets married with the other genre's up
there.  to combine the latino music of lourdes perez with jane siberry's
erethral sound, or to pump jean smith's wild stage antics, guitar
playing and funky voice into the same song that gail ann dorsey is
singing is a sight to behold.  basically, don't go expecting to hear a
night of "galileo" or "chickenman" because it isn't going to happen!

welp, that is it!  i am getting very ornery because it is 4:00 am and i
need to be in the car with mel in just a few hours to go to newport in
pgh.

i look forward to reading all the posts and reviews of the show. i have
a set list, but so do most of us (along with deidre getting about 30
picks from sulli..the child is outta control!) so everything will end up
here soon enough...

off to the land of beddie-bye.

peace y'all!

karrie

ps.  the shirts are awesome.  :)

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hey any ig fans going to the cleveland rockers home playoff game
tommorrow night?
these games are a blast-i'm comming from pa to see it-sorry a phoenix
fan here.if your going email me!!!

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hello... sorry to bother the list with this stuff, but you guys always seem
to know everything.. :) i'm dealing with the aftermath of a very bitter
break-up, and trying to get out into the city some more. i will be doing
most of this alone, so i was wondering if anyone knew of any places (music
venues, etc.) in the l.a. area that are woman-friendly, and not
intimidating (especially in the evening.) i just gotta stop sitting in my
room listening to the top 10 saddest ig songs over and over... :) please
reply privately so the list doesn't get clogged..

thanks,
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hey y'all--
  sorry for the nigc, but does anyone know the postage to ship a cd:
with bubble wrap?
without?
what's the best way to do this?
thanks,
lauren

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ok, so you have an indigo site. maybe you're in a webring..but what do
you really have to show for it? so...visit my site and win an award!!!
:)
here's how it works:
everyone gets an award. the site is pretty easy to naviagate, so you
should be able to tell which award(s) you are eligible for!
when you submit your site to me (by emailing me with award in the
subject line, telling me which award you want and sending me your site's
addy) i will look at it. check out the content and the way you have it
set up, check for broken links, stuff like that.
then i will send you the html for your award.
no, how does everyone win an award? well, i'm basically rating your
site. you can get an award of 1, 2, 3, or 4 stars. (i'm not really that
hard on ya so don't be scared to apply!! :)

visit my site for all the info and to see the graphics:
http://members.tripod.com/~deleria_haze/awards.html

(the graphics with stars are not shown to prevent stealing.)

please ya'll i want to give out awards! so if you have a site, apply
don't be shy! all you have to do is mail me..that's the only work you
have to do aside from copying & pasting a teensy html code onto your
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*hugs*

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hey all,
i'll begin w/my usual disclaimer--i'm on digest, so sorry if i'm repeating.
it was quite a night in cleveland.  didn't arrive from columbus until
after 7, which totally panicked me, but still managed to head up the side
and end up just one person from the stage on amy's side.  great view.
looked like my usual dork self at ig shows--kept asking "are you on the
list?" and getting those totally uncomprehending stares.  anyway, first the
set list, from one of their copies (semi-colons between song titles, stuff
in parenthesis my comments and who was fronting):

roll the dice (a, e and jane s vox); way below the radio (lisa g vox/piano,
a, e background); power of two rocked!!! (a, e, and lourdes p, who was
fabulous); love is everything (jane s,  lisa g,  a & e); cimarron (a & ??);
tengo la vida (lourdes, jane s, a & e--amy was totally into this, she was
so cute playing to lourdes, who she obviously loves. one of my favs of the
night, but the folks around me would not shut up.) chisel (was this the
ultra feedback song?); go (rocked a & e front);
wood floors (lisa g vox/piano, e background--beautiful); pale light (no, i
think *this* was the ultra feedback song, where jane s. looked way
uncomfortable, while jean and josephine rocked in their own little worlds);
pullin' a cloud (a & e); jean smith accappela (set list has a question
mark--umm, something about covered bridges, jack daniels for bfast...she
scared me.  she was wasted and kept holding out her bass? guitar?? for
people around me to touch, which they really didn't want to. night got a
little weird w/jean, which amy and others obviously felt); vestigos
(lourdes, a & e background--spanish love song); soon to be nothing (new e
song, loved it, missed a's harmony, but jean smith almost redeemed herself
w/her cool spoken world); under your skin (a, e, jane backup vox, luscious
jackson song, the girls were laughing at themselves, fun); midnight train
to georgia (jane, gail--wow, not only is she stunning, but can this girl
sing!!!, and e all took a verse, they all did the funniest train
sound/motion--wooo hooo)  encore:fisherman (jane s. was magical, really
worked the crowd, a & e background);
faye tucker (a, of course.. my first time hearing this song, umm, i'm gonna
commit list sacrilege by saying i wasn't that fond of it); ziggy stardust
(gail main vocals, everybody joined in, rocked!)

this was the 3rd night of suffragette and you could tell, as folks said
about the other reviews, they were still getting it together.  a and e
seemed to be having a fabulous time, which is always fun to watch.  a mixed
bag, imo, some of the songs were amazing and some weren't my thing.  it was
kind like watching a compilation cd being made. :-)  lourdes perez lit up
the stage and was the most fun to watch 'cause amy got so cute playing
w/her.  the crowd, though, wasn't very respectful to her or any of the
other folks who played more mellow songs.  the girls agreed 'cause toward
the end emily, while laughing, said to the crowd: "thanks for
listening...sorta."  still, the overall night was great, even when things
didn't work quite as planned, like when they couldn't learn the strumming
pattern for "fisherman".  looking forward to cincinnati!
lisa


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in a message dated 98-08-23 03:44:31 edt, jillyc@hotmail.com writes:

<<
well, this may be just a case of a baad bad mr. limes, but i always
thought she was saying something like
i've been looking for you
but it's a little too late to assume
when i'm lookin down, i'm fine
spare(s) (me) the sight of you,
hey you, ay you...
  >>


hmm, i'm not sure of the words at all, but i think what i got from sherlyn and
a few others on the list are more than likely the closest...if not correct.
thanks for all the responses on this post.  i'll take all the different
versions i got and determine for myself what i think is right.   i guess
that's best any of us can do, unless amy ray tells us.

does anyone know why that verse was never printed?

lynn  :-)    <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">tahmehawk's
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does anyone out there know if planet indigo moved?  the last url i have is
http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/5482/indigo.html and the site is no
longer there.

thank you :)
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hi y'all!

i am driving home (chicago) on wednesday to see the suff sessions tour
show.  anyway, i knew that the venue was changed, but my mom just e-mailed
me frantically telling me that they (i don't know who) called and said
that the show was on october 26th...that was a mistake on her answering
machine, right?  the shows are still in august, right????  can someone
just e-mail me to clear this up?

thanks!

love,
karen :-)

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virginia fuller wrote:

> the playlist for next week's show is posted on the web now
> (http://www.acafe.com).  the girls will be playing "gone again," "it's
>
> alright," "galileo," and "go."  they will be split up though - the
> first two
> in the first half of the show, the second two in the second half.
>
> it looks like they are also playing a shawn mullins song near the
> beginning
> - yay!
>
> can't wait till monday to hear it!
>
> virginia :)

i hope some kind soul will tape this and let us send blanks to them for
a copy afterwards...ann

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date:         sun, 23 aug 1998 17:14:42 edt
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well i can't say that i can decide between the two...both compliment each
other so well ...they both have their negtives and postives but when you put
them together it is an awesome combination....so when you ask me to decide who
is better all that i can say is that i'll take them as one :)

thanks
and indigo smile to y'all-
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date:         sun, 23 aug 1998 17:45:59 edt
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hey y'all--
  i have a cd by the borrowers, josh seigel, one of the guys in the band
played a bunch of instruments for the girls on their shaming of the sun tour,
but i don't really like the cd that much so if anyone wants to trade something
for it or whatever...................
lauren

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date:         sun, 23 aug 1998 14:46:01 pdt
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more odeon reviews! (just jill babbling)
>* the show itself was incredible, however, if you are not a *music*
fan,
>but rather more of an ig fan, it is *extremely different* than anything
>you can expierience involving amy and emily.
this is very true.  i had the feeling that many people there were
expecting a night of let's-not-test-the-boundaries lilith-type-music.
you could sense their bewilderment at times, such as when thalia zedek
(who, like i was telling carol, just exudes that coolness that can only
be posessed by one who has been cool for so damn long) and jean smith,
the resident black-haired punks, just went to town playing guitar,
thrashing to the feedback off each other's instrument. susan b. marine,
riot grrl extraordinnaire, would love this... i was spazzing so
intensely (in the heat of the moment, i threw a fist into the air as a
nod to jean, who replied likewise, but real flippantly, to me... which
is making me re-think my previous admiration of mecca normal.  sheesh,
she's mean) that i am sore today.  now that's a mark of a damn fine
show.  god, i can't get over how hard they played... makes me wanna go
pierce something ;).  if emily can do it, anyone can.  go see
suffragette sessions; you too can be a punk rocker ;)
and the "lighter" acts, lisa germano, jane sieberry, gail ann dorsey...
just blew me away.  lisa is absolutely amazing on violin, and she
giggles adorably when you tell her she's good.  jane is the most
captivating storyteller, and she can totally work an audience, making
eye contact, gesturing to invidual audience members, giving coy smiles.
and gail ann.  holy god.  now there's a woman whose vibrato could rival
michelle malone's.  i go for strong, rocking voices, and hers just
rocketed through me. yet when i attempted to tell her how wonderful and
powerful her voice is, she dipped her eyes down and smiled demurely,
thanking me genuinely, all modesty.  good lord!  and speaking of
rocketing, don't *even* get me started on kate schellenbach.  i'm unable
to comment on her performance without using a paragraph of expletives
(@$^%$%&*$!!!).  ahem, anyone wanna go to a luscious jackson show with
me anytime? ;)

oh oh oh.
ohhhhhhh.  just so good.  (if you like that kind of thing, that is.
;)... folkies beware! these ladies don't go for the soft set.)

jill, who smiled first thing this morning, because the first thing she
thought of was last night's show)

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hi everyone.  anyone tape the burlington show?  anyone go?  what did y'all
think?

thanks in advance.

erin sue

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in a message dated 23/08/98 0.50.03 est, chance0631@aol.com writes:

<< i think
the point is to, as women, stick together, enjoy such celebration and turn a
deaf ear on uneducated critics. >>

rock on, chance!!!!!! that is exactly what we need to do. as much as i don't
agree with vh1 and other ruthless advertising campaigns, if we ignore them,
they quite possibly will go away. so let's kick ass!! yeah! :-)

~h'''''''lilith'''''''h~
\
a
"jesus is coming. look busy!"
"hold on to nothing as fast as you can..."
"the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less
seriously cause it's only life after all, yeah."
"i am looking for someone who can take as much as i give, give back as much as
i need, you know and they still have the will to live. cause i am intent, i am
in need, i am in pain, i am in love, and i feel forsaken, you know like the
things i gave away....."

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hey everyone!

just wanted to let you know i've posted an article (w/some photos i
took) on the web... check it out if you want.

http://www.geocities.com/heartland/woods/9711/ejs_main.html

later,
twink!
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thanks for all of those who offered to be branches.  i'll write you all
emails shortly.....  i'll post the tree/set list for each show early this
week....java

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hey, did anyone else notice that the suff. t-shirts had that same emily
quote on the back....
"poetry, sweat, cacophony, 1-3-5, and general mayhem"
someone's gotta ask her what it means.....

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hi! since she is on vacation this  week. i am starting off the second vote.
that will run from tonight when this e-mail is received in your box to the
following sunday. i got the four top ones and since the fourth was a tie. i
have five names instead of four and two new suggestions that i have added
to the list. please e-mail your vote to msinghaus@msmisp.com

intimate strangers
fortunate ones
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indigo addicts
indigoer
go heads
kind friends & intimate strangers

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regarding the quote on the back of the shirt:
"poetry, sweat, cacophony, 1-3-5, and general mayhem"

i believe it is a description of the suffragette sessions....a suffragette is
an old term used to desribe someone who was fighting for the right for the
female's to vote.  well we all know the sessions are an explosion of females,
aren't the sessions also an explosion of poetry , sweat, cacophony (which is
just a harsh , jarring sound) and general mayhem?  the 1-3-5, because of it's
placement in the quote, could be so many things:  1% poetry, 3% sweat and 5%
cacophony, it could be something musical (chord reference), spiritual or even
mathmatical, they are all significant numbers being primes and odd numbers oh
well, just some thoughts

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vote for only one. we are voting for the name for our group on the te
shirts that we are doing. i hope this clears it up/ gi troupe should have
filled you all in with the first vote. that the winners from it would be in
the second vote and the top one this time wins. missy

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if you have the priviledge, and i really do believe it's a priviledge, to see
one of the suffragette sessions shows, please *please* pay attention to the
things people are mentioning in their reviews.   in particular - the crowd
attention to the other artists.  i just got back from the cleveland show, and
i was honestly almost embarrassed to be an ig fan with the way the fans were
carrying on.   you could barely hear the artists with all the talking and
screaming going on, and i was front row.   and whatever you do - please don't
scream out ig song requests to them.    they obviously have worked hard at
practicing certain songs, and while it's easy for amy & emily to sometimes
just play a request at a normal ig show, it's not so easy when you have nine
or so other musicians on the stage, whom may not have heard of scooter boys.
three cheers to emily and her astonishingly fast "maybe!!!!!!!!!!!" comeback
to one particular drunken heckler who kept screaming "midnight train to
georgia".  that was probably the first time in my life that i've ever wanted
to say "you go girl".   seriously.

if you respect amy and emily, please listen to the other artists with as much
attention as you pay them - they obviously are important to them, and they
think you should listen.  otherwise, they'd just be doing another "ig" show.
this show is quite obviously a *lot* of work for them.

that said - if you have the choice, **go**.   it's a once in a lifetime
chance, and it's an unforgettable experience.    i wouldn't have missed it for
the world.   it was *so* much fun just to see them having so much fun.

just don't go to dick's last resort and ask for 15 separate checks at 1:30 in
the morning! <grin>    thanks to everyone in ohio - you people are the
best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   and in particular don & peg & deidre - three of the
most special & generous people i've ever met  =)     you're all amazing
=)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and gail - the seat won't go back!!!!!!!

lisa

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someone recently wrote:

> been surfin' again and found cooper tisdale's homepage (she ahs
>  played with ig and kristen hall). there are soundbytes off of her new
>  album and lots of other things, plus you can drop cooper a line, if
>  you like.
>  it's at:  http://www.mindspring.com/~sjolie/

fyi - cooper tisdale is a he...................

and cooper seay is a she...........   both have played with ig, and both have
web sites.  cooper seay's is:  http://m2.monsterbit.com/ecs/
you can also hear soundbytes from her newest cd there.

=)
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memememi sent an e-mail (lisa)  a very important one.  try to read the whole
thing and think about what she said.  amy and emily counted on their fans.
have we failed them?

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i thought most people there were that is why it is nicknamed dyke fest.
missy

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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list by gail but
it's more appropriate for here instead...

cheers,
sherlyn
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subject: another cleveland review....

hi list peeps,

here's my cleveland review...

prologue...aka from newport to cleveland
----------------------------------------

picture the scene....two atlanta ig fans (lisa and gail) sitting in
providence, ri airport,
wondering when their next ig show will be when one pipes up "you know,
we could go to the
cleveland suffragette sessions tour because it's on a saturday and we
wouldn't need any time
off work and, you know, we could drive there..."  next thing ya know,
we have tickets (courtesy
of don - waving frantically at don via the computer screen) and it's
all planned - and we didn't
even leave rhode island yet!

the day arrives....
-------------------

well, in the end, reality set in and we decided to fly to cleveland
because (1) i found reasonable
flights on expedia and (2) all the driving would have killed me. <g>
word of warning for anybody
traveling with ms. dupre - make sure she has an aisle seat and not one
at the emergency exit
cause the seat doesn't go back.  believe me, it will save a lot of
wingeing!!

we arrived at the venue at just after 1pm, despite yours truly taking
the wrong exit off i77n.
big kudos to lisa for excellent map reading under pressure!!! :)
anyhoo, the line was already
started - waving at mel who saved our lives by bringing copious
deckchairs from don's house - and
the sun was hot.  suffice to say it was a long afternoon - luckily the
company was great.  more
frantic waving - don, peg, deidre, lisa, karrie, karrie's fiance,
carol-ann, jill, mel, the
people who were at newport and came from youngstown.

finally, the doors opened and we all streamed in - and got front row
off center emily side.  woo-
hoo. :)  the venue reminded me of a slightly smaller version of the
roseland in ny.  kudos to
whoever decided to play danielle howle and the tantrums over the pa
while we waited for the
opening act.  i danced and sang along, bringing me strange looks from
those standing beside me.
the opening act were, well, not really my cup of tea but i listened
politely anyway.  same couldn't
be said for others in the crowd, already some of them well worse the
wear for alcohol consumption.
not that i'm a stick in the mud party pooper but some people will not
remember any of the show this
morning.  oh.  they were called buffalo daughter and are from tokyo.
the support band, i mean, not the drunk people. <bg>

what can i say about the suffragette sessions that hasn't already been
articulated by others?
well, it rocked!  like lisa said, it's a privilege to be involved with
what amounts to a large
jam session.  every artist there looked like they were having a ball,
plus remember that a+e
are sharing new material with us, harking back to the "demo tour" of
1996. alas and alack, the
same rude, inconsiderate element that marred that tour were back in
force at cleveland last night.
they talked, loudly, when the other artists were singing.  they yelled
for ig songs.  even when
a+e were singing b.vox on songs, i could hear the constant rhubarb,
rhubarb behind me, and i was
at the front.  i'm a big music fan, as well as an ig fan and it made
me cringe.  ok, so maybe i
*didn't* like some of the musical styles - that's no excuse for plain
bad manners.  i'm going to
get off my soapbox in a second, just please remember if you are
attending one of these shows
anytime soon - be considerate.  i *love* it when a+e experiment like
this - does anybody want
them to stagnate, then get bored with what they do?  hmmm.

back to the music.  the rocked up version of po2 was just awesome, the
sight of emily pogo-ing with
her electric guitar will be indelibly printed on my mind, getting to
hear mttg was a great treat.
i love the new stuff, faye tucker, go (emily's little gee-tar riff
thingie is cool), emily's new
song - which has shades of winthrop in the  chorus i think, or maybe
that's just me and ziggy was
fabby.  gail ann has a fabulous voice.
i also enjoyed all the other artists, with the exception of jean smith
who freaked me out
during one of her songs when she stared at me and then pointed at me.
<shudder>.  apologies to
any jean smith fans out there! <g>

all in all though, it was a mind-blowingly superb evening of pure
music brilliance and if you get
the chance, go along.  i was standing beside an ig virgin who was
bummed when we told her it
wouldn't be a full ig show but you should have seen the happy grin on
her face at the end of the
night.  i hope the suffragette sessions will go from strength to
strength.  :)

epilogue
--------

the indigohio list meet/munchies after the show event happened at
dick's last resort, where the
staff are really rude (apparently this is a "theme" of the place).
hmmm.  well, as i think lisa
mentioned, our chappie wasn't too impressed with giving us 15 separate
checks, i don't know if
that was part of his act or reality. <g>  big "hi" to everyone i met.
big thanks to don, peg and
deidre for giving us a bed for the night, a yummie breakfast this
morning and great company over
the weekend.  you guys are fabby. :)

phew!  end of review.

gail (the scottish one) - tired but happie. :)

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i've seen the ads (or at least two of them, i think) and wasn't sure if i
should laugh or not.  i think that when they mentioned the ig i kind of took
it as a slam.  but as for lilith being gay, um, don't think so, even though
there are lots of dykes there.  i think that some people expect it to be,
but nope, it's not.  i read the review in the mpls paper yesterday and the
author sounded very disappointed that there were so many heterosexuals there
and so many references to being straight.

lisa

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date:         sun, 23 aug 1998 23:04:33 edt
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hi everyone!!

i think enough has been said about the rude and often drunken behavior of some
of the indigo girls' fans at the cleveland suffregettes show so i don't have
anything to add to that aspect of the show. i think the best approach is what
one of our listees did and explained to a ig fan what the suff. session was
about - but not everyone is willing to listen.  i do have to say i'm so happy
our girls put this together!!!  so if you're willing to be tolerant and listen
to some music that you might not necessarily buy a cd for, take a chance and
get to your nearest suffregette session.

one of the things i've always prided myself in is my diverse musical tastes
and i have to say i can see amy and emily carry that tradition on in
everything they do.  it was pretty amazing for our "folkies" to put together a
show that rocked like the one last night - some pretty wonderful talent was up
on that little stage! personally i didn't enjoy the punkier songs, but so what
- there was so much to listen to and i've now got the names of some more
extremely talented musicians that i want to buy their cds.

it has been so neat to see how amy and emily have grown in their musical
career - that is why i'm still listening to them and attending their concerts
after 9 years.  there's not too many artists that i have followed for this
long of a period of time and still enjoy being a "fan" of.

i have to say that what i will take away with me from that concert is that the
"intimate strangers" on the list are turning in to "kind friends" and that's
pretty neat.  columbus lilith was fun because of the list meet and eat that
don organized - last night was the next step.  it was so cool seeing fellow
listees before and after - in spite of the "dick" (waiter) at dick's! lol.  hi
again to don, peggy, dierdre, carol ann, jill, karrie and fiance, gabrielle,
marivel, ruth ann, lisa and gail - and anyone else i was talking to but didn't
remember your name! it really feels like a special little family that we've
got and makes going to indigo functions all the more enjoyable.  i won't be
able to make cincinnati, so have fun for me!

take care,

~leslie

"my place is of the sun and this place is of the dark
  (by grace my sight grows stronger, grows stronger)" emily saliers aka email

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date:         sun, 23 aug 1998 20:14:39 pdt
reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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ok the way *i* sing it along with her is like a variation of the two!!


i've been looking to find you
but it's a little too late, to soon
when i in the mirror, i find
sin inside of you,
in you, in you...

*lol*

lamia


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--lel my sis, after hearing more than i for the first time.

"i almost ran over an angel..."
--tori amos, leather

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 13:27:34 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey everyone,

this is an excerpt of a message that was posted to
the newsgroup... i have no affiliation, this is
just fyi...

-sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= a+e=ig
sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au            [sydney, australia]
"life can be so dramatic - but it was real at the time..."
                                        - the waifs

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subject: ig items for sale

i am putting the following items of my collection up for sale.  if you see
anything you're interested in, send your offer in by september 1st. i'll pay
shipping.  all items guaranteed to be in near mint condition(unless noted
otherwise).

promo cd singles

get together                          1990              still sealed
land of canaan                        1989              still sealed
holiday greetings/get together  1989
joking                          1992            pic sleeve

cd singles

hammer and a nail               1990            pic sleeve/still sealed

compilation cds

hitchiker radio saga 2(radio promo disc) features "i don't want to know" plus
tracks by mary chapin carpenter, shawn colvin, roseanne cash, etc.     1989

hitchiker exampler, features "make it easier" plus tracks by mary chapin
carpenter,
shawn colvin, rodney crowell, etc.  comes with booklet  1990

hitchiker 2, (stock version of first hitchiker cd listed here, featuring "i
don't want to know") comes with booklet 1989

theodore-alternative music sampler, features "kid fears"(live), plus tracks by
shawn colvin, kate bush, toad the wet sproket, etc.  comes with booklet  1990


other cds

shades of indigo:  includes tracks "melissa", "daddy's all gone"; girls
interviewed by shawn colvin     promo   1990

closer to fine/history of us/centerstage    uk release/pic sleeve
1989

kid fears/closer to fine/centerstage/prince of darkness       promo 1989

reverse 1 live:  9 tracks               promo  1989


promo 12" singles

centerstage/prince of darkness/kid fears/closer to fine

land of canaan + 5 live(crazy game/love of the common people/mona lisas and
  mad hatters/secure yourself/kid fears)


7" singles

everybody's waiting(for someone to come home)/crazy game      1985 indie single
w/ pic sleeve

closer to fine          white label promo               1989

closer to fine/cold as ice                              1989

closer to fine/history of us    uk release w/ pic sleeve        1989

peace by tommorrow, face of concern(atlanta group) & friends(includes ig,
michelle malone, kristen hall)  lyrics on back sleeve, everyone's signatures on
front   indie single            1987


compilation lp

don't eat out of dented cans, wrfg/atlanta radio compilation; features "don't
give up on me baby" and "walk away"   1987


cassettes

strange fire            blue label promo copy
indigo girls            blue label promo copy
back on the bus y'all   stock; still sealed

cassette singles

land of canaan/never stop

power of two/rockin' in the free world(live w/ k's choice);  still sealed/
includes nice ig pin

closer to fine/cold as ice

hammer and a nail/welcome me(live); still sealed

get together/finlandia; still sealed

[...]

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date:         sun, 23 aug 1998 23:36:13 edt
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hey yall
since i am not lucky enough to go to one of the suffragette sessions shows
(and believe me i would love to) would some kind soul be willing to pick me up
a t-shirt. i will send you the money for it and postage and maybe a little
sumthin for your troubles, i swear to you i am good for it...and i just really
really really want one...so if someone would be willing could ya let me
know...

peace
sasha

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date:         sun, 23 aug 1998 23:02:08 -0500
reply-to:     greg flamer <gflame@megsinet.net>
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hi--i have been reading all the reviews from the previous suffragette
sessions shows and it sounds like it should be blast next week when i see
em in chicago.  i also have read several complaints regarding people
screaming out ig requests.  i totally agree that this is completely
inappropriate and rude to the other performers.  it also would make me feel
embarrassed as an ig fan if i had witnessed that at a show.  but my
question is this--if it's not an ig show then why is it called the
suffragette sessions featuring amy ray and emily saliers.  yes they need a
big name to draw people into buying tickets, but it can be misleading to
people.  i mean the ads i have seen in local papers have huge pictures of a
and e and then list the show.  if i were to go into the show without having
read any of the previous reviews or without being on this list there is
potential for disappointment when like 1 or 2 ig songs are being sung.
        obviously the premise behind the tour is to jam with other artists
and not just to ig songs.  i know that.  those of us on the list know that.
but the folks who just see ig's photo in the paper and go to the show may
not know that.  frankly, i could see them being peeved as it is advertised
an an ig event.  it doesn't justify tehn yelling out rudely but may may
have been disappointed who didn't yell out.
        solution?  ig should announce before the show that there are no
indigo girls here ( like they did in portland i think).  might piss some
off at the beginning but at least folks would shut up throughout the show.
hell, if people start yelling out requests in chicago i'll yell out--it's
not an ig show, they aren't taking requests.  park west is small enough for
everyone to hear.  ok i'm done making my point.  any other comments?

greg

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 00:38:14 edt
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i saw the suffragette concert last night in cleveland.  i sttod amongst
complete strangers and cried like a baby when they sang the power of two.  i
feel like i'm living with them now, only i can't see them or talk to them.
but somehow, they know everything about me.  their songs-my life, my feelings.
i've never been so flooded with the ig and felt so lonely and incapable of
living.  anyone understand that?  god, i miss my lover.

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how is it that two women who are so life positive can sing your life clearly
enough to make you not want to live it anymore?

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hey greg and all --

i think you're right on.  the radio spots for the burlington show advertised
"an intimate evening with indigo girls and their guests," and played all ig
songs in the background.  one said "ig brings their suffragette sessions tour
to vermont," but didn't explain how different it was from any other tour out
there.  i'm sure it would be annoying to have people talk throughout the set
and yell out requests, but maybe someone (ig, management, local promoters)
could have avoided some of this by being clearer from the begining.  i'm sure
there is a learning curve in launching a tour such as this, so maybe it will
be different in the future.

being rude is never acceptable, but i've tried to put myself in someone else's
shoes and i can sympathize with them -- if i showed up to see ig and guests
and only got to hear power of two, i'd be kind of angry myself.

kevin, who went back west two days before the burlington show...

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ok...now it's time for me to put a few words on...:) all together..as everyone
has said..the show rocked! i have a new love for kate
shellenbach(spelling??)she just rocks! the music was loaded w/
diversity..which makes for an interesting evening. the spanish singer...lopez?
(i forger her first name) was awesome..and did a sing-a-long w/ us...it was
great..except the only words i could remember were tengo la vida..tengo la
vida! it was great..:) if you are planning on going to a suffragette
show..take the words of advice from everyone and don't be rude...the musicians
are putting there hearts into the music..don't ruin it for them..and the
people around you! but on a happier note...i met two listees! ( i missed the
rest of you! i was on amy's side..right by the end of the barrier w/ a daemon
shirt on) they were awesome..! you know who you are..(sarah & sarah)
together..we complained about all the drunkards around us! but all in
all...great show! run and get tickets fast if you don't have them already!
peace & music,
jenn

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 01:55:44 edt
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i read someones favorite quote and it was from a song called clues to you.  i
was wondering where this song can be found.  is it new?  i really liked the
quote and would love to hear the song!  thanks!

                ---lindy


        "it's alright if you hate that way, hate me cuz i'm different, you hate me
cuz i'm gay..." ---emily saliers

        ---thanks for helping me with the writer of the quote!

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i am hereby seconding sasha's (i think)  request for a t-shirt from suff
sessions.  i'd pay for the shirt and the shipping up front, plus trade what i
have....anyone who can, please let me know.  i live in ca, so i can't attend a
show in person.  sad me!

alison

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what are the shirts like?

melissa

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date:         sun, 23 aug 1998 02:12:25 -0400
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on sat, 22 aug 1998, amanda wrote:

> when i went to lilith i saw many more str8
> chicks with their boyfriends than dykes.

   in indy this year, while litany was playing, there was this couple
doing this little slam-dance thing near the stage.  but they were trying
to keep from spilling their beer (at $0.10/drop, i understand why..) and
it was ungodly funny.
   didja see that, emily?  ;)

> it reminded me of the ig concert here last november.
> there were a lot of unhappy looking men with their
> girlfriends who made sure to hang on their men so
> none of us would mistake them for dykes.

   gosh...my girlfriend and i were both hanging on the dykes...
   well, except when they were out "converting" straight chicks...

   "wow!  points towards a toaster oven!"
      ---overheard in steak n shake after the concert

   darius

"now even the rain it don't come 'round
don't come 'round here no more...
and the only sound at night's the wind
slammin' the back porch door..."
   ---bruce springsteen, "this hard land"

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in a message dated 98-08-24 00:09:02 edt, you write:

>         solution?  ig should announce before the show that there are no
>  indigo girls here ( like they did in portland i think).  might piss some
>  off at the beginning but at least folks would shut up throughout the show.
>  hell, if people start yelling out requests in chicago i'll yell out--it's
>  not an ig show, they aren't taking requests.  park west is small enough for
>  everyone to hear.  ok i'm done making my point.  any other comments?


many of us did point out (politely and not quite so politely) that it wasn't
an ig show when the requests started flying, but that didn't really stop them.
and a lot of the yelling wasn't even really for song requests - a large
majority were the "i love you emileeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!", "i love you
ameeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" type.  over and over and over again.   you know
what i mean.    and the other artists definitely felt it as well - i think
that's probably why when josephine wiggs was introducing everyone, she had to
say "that's enough" when the yelling for a&e went on for *quite* a few
minutes.  and that's probably why jean smith was so mean and sarcastic.   and
if you were there, you know what i mean.   just don't make eye contact with
her.  <grin>

=)
lisa

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 07:41:55 -0500
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"" but then both the lilith's i went to had ig there""like 5 gay couples
to every 1 straight couple..

okay not a flame or anything..never..but ..does this mean that if
michael jackson was there..then the majority would be twisted,
childabusing , freaks?.....

you can not define a concert or the artist, nor the people attending
based upon the beliefs of the other components......

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 07:38:35 -0500
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clues to you can be found on amy's solo album color me gray.  it is a very
old song.

i am taping acoustic cafe for a lot of people.  i guess what i'd like to do
is take a vote.  would you prefer i tape:

a) the whole show (about two hours minus commercials)
b) only the parts with ig

let me know by the end of tomorrow since i'm not sure i'll check my email
between wed-sun.

thanks.

---------------------------
sheryl jones
sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu
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hello and goodbye, everyone.  i'm signing off of the list because i'm
heading back to school...ithaca college to be exact...and i can't have all
of this mail filling up my mailbox every day.  it has been fun while it
lasted.  everyone feel free to mail me anytime, because it's nice to get
some e-mail messages occassionally.  well, take care everyone and best of
luck with everything to everyone.
-jen

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"don't look for too long at my face, you'll see that i'm in the wrong
place.  where i belong remains a dream i'll always chase...  who would
have known..."
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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 10:56:09 edt
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        hi ya'll, i've been lurking on this list for about a month and am enjoying it
very much! i am *really* new to the whole boot thang, but i have a very
special request....does anyone have a boot for a show done at shea's buffalo
on september 8, 1997?  although i've been a fan for a decade...that was my
first ig concert and i would love a copy..please e-mail me privately...thanks!

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hey y'all--
  i was wondering how many of you were going to the bogarts show on
sun....what time are you getting there etc.?  also, do you think we can bring
cameras into bogarts?  i know at some shows they check bags and things for
alcohol/drugs, but when i went to shawn colvin, they didn't ...(i guess they
gauge their audience....which kind of reminds me of the lilith debate...i
think performers *do* somewhat indicate what type of crowd will be in
attendance)
anyway.....just let me know!
thanks,
lauren

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 11:40:06 edt
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hi!  does anyone know what the difference is between the ig self-titled cd and
the gold version?  i was visiting amazon.com which has a lot of ig cd's and i
couldn't figure out what the difference was.  thanks!!!

                ---lindy =)

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 11:47:39 -0400
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selftitled gold means put it away in the collection.  the regualar self
titled is the exact same cd, only not gold.

karen (who has both)

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okay, folks, the cds and labels have all been mailed out to the branches,
so if you'd like a copy of the ig set at merriweather post pavillion in
columbia, md on july 19 (a full description is in the message included
below), please make arrangements with the person associated with your
birthday month.  sherlyn is going to be the australian branch,  robin the
canadian branch, and kathrin the german branch, but if there are others
outside the us who want the tape, i'm hopeful that you'll be able to come
to a satisfactory arrangement with the person associated with your birthday
month. the only stipulation i have is that *no one* can make a profit or
*require* a trade -- anyone should be able to get them by sending a 60
minute blank and an sase, though it would be nice to arrange a trade if you
can.  i've gotten good feedback from the branches that have listened to it
so far; i spent a great deal of time mastering the recording with cooledit
software, and i'm quite pleased with the results.  i don't think you'll
find much better recordings of the ensemble performances of "the weight,"
"water is wide," and "what's going on," and there were some great moments
in the rest of the set too (natalie merchant's trumpeter was an interesting
element in several songs).

note:  there weren't enough people who volunteered to be cd-r branches to
tree cds, so leaves are tape only.  i won't be making any more cds, as i'll
be on to mastering the newport and 9:30 club (dc) shows at next
opportunity.  the newport show is already being tree'd by someone else, so
i'll announce for 9:30 club branches when it's ready.

here are the merriweather branches:

jan     jean <jkniese@ix.netcom.com>
feb    lisa <memememi@aol.com>
mar    laura <laurajackson@mindspring.com>
apr     jude <hunterj1@aol.com>
may   lisa <nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu>
jun     kim <kluce@best.com>
jul     resa <resa@ipeg.com>
aug     wendell<wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
sep     paula <plaine@isomedia.com>
oct     susan <scorpio7@sagami.or.jp>
nov     marcy <mjg333@aol.com>
dec     melissa <mfaurest@dmlo.com>

australia       sherlyn <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
canada  robin <robin_squires@ymca.ca>
germany kathrin <kathrin.siegmund@stud.uni-hannover.de>

branches should use the following addresses for overflow; if you receive
more requests than you can handle (and please take care of at least the 15
you've committed to), please refer those folks to overflow branches as
follows:

    jan-apr     monique <monique@entelechy.com> * monique is on an ig road trip
this week, be patient!
    may-aug     karen <karenfrey@redrose.ne>
    sep-dec     sue <skwan@midway.uchicago.edu>

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>date: tue, 21 jul 1998 19:18:11 -0400
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>i got a good dub of the ig set at merriweather post pavillion in columbia,
md on sunday.
>it sounds great, but i have to give it an a- because of a few rude
talkers.  it's not enough to
>be distracting, just a bit annoying in a very few places.  i've mastered
it onto a 55 min. cd
>as follows:
>
>track 1:       chickenman
>               galileo
>               shame on you
>               ghost
>               shed your skin
>track 2:       get out the map
>               the weight (w/ rebekah, kacy crowley, jerry marrotta, natalie merchant)
>               water is wide (w/ sarah mclachlan)
>               closer to fine (w/ sarah mclachlan, holly mcnarland, et al)
>track 3:       what's goin' on (encore, w/ all; lots of emily & rebekah)
>
>i am willing to make cd-r boots of this for about 15 branches, who must
send me a cd-r
>and an sase.  in turn, branches agree to make at least 15 copies, cds or
tapes, for others.
>under no circumstances is anyone to profit from this distribution, it is
for your personal
>enjoyment only.
>
>if you're interested, please reply to this message privately, and (this is
*important*) specify
>whether you can make cd and/or tape copies.  i'll post to the list when
all branches have
>been selected.  please do not reply if you don't know how a tree works, or
if you're getting
>ready to go back to school and won't have time, or if you don't have
decent equipment, or
>if you just bought this cd-writer thing and you think you can figure out
how to work it, or if
>you can't get around to mailing me your media for a while... a tape tree
works best if the root
>and branches are somewhat professional about the endeavor.
>
>with all that said, if you still want to be a branch <g>, send me a
message privately and i will
>notify you *only* if you are selected.  if you are not selected as a
branch, watch for the leaf
>announcement, which should go out around late august.  with 15 branches
there should be
>plenty to go around, so please, serious inquiries only for branch positions.

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so what happened to all those generous folks who said they'd be offering these
to the list?  me wan one!!!!  or two!!!!  or all of them!!!! <g>

dee

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 13:30:20 -0400
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hkf's,

i heard on the radio in atlanta the other day about our indigo girls opening
a restaurant called watershed!  i think they said in the l5p area but i
can't remember.  anyone got some info on this???

8-o

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 12:06:50 -0700
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the wonderful jill wrote:

> have you heard that urban legend that says that,
within 2 minutes of coming out to someone (or having
someone realize "you're, you know, *funny*")
straight, they'll manage to work some reference to
their own
(hetero)sexuality into the conversation. >

ahhh i hate that!  it happens to me all the time!
the comment i get most of the time is "oh, well i'm
into men (or women depending) but if that's your
choice...."  do you know the looks i get when i
switch the tables?  i constantly say back "well i'm
into women but if that's your choice..."  then they
usually say "well i was born that way" and i say
"really?  me too."  and they shut-up.

ooh i'm ramblin' like jilly now,
amanda

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no, have you?/so he called me a dyke and i said yeah
right/that's mr. dyke to you."  estrofemme

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>may   lisa <nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu>

i have a new address that you should all use.  it's:  brewgirl@pinenet.com

thanks!
lisa

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so tuesday my g/f and i broke up...and then got back together..today i went to
her side of the building left the ring she gave me on her desk and basically
broke up with her...now what i need is some good break up songs not
necessarily ig either...untouchable face by ani keeps coming to mind...

any ideas?

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hey all-=--i would be willing to pick up a fewh t-shirts for people who can't
get to a show...if you are interested let me know!  i'm going to the show this
friday--the 28th--but i would need your money before hand...i'm sort of in
financial crisis myself so i have no extra cash...and if any of you out there
who have already been could tell me how much those t-shirts cost--i would
greatly appreciate it--i just want to know how much extra cash i should bring
with me inorder to get a shirt for myself...

peace!
kara.

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i saw "saving private ryan" last night...
just finished the book "push"
woke up this morning, a day behind life, to read yesterdays articles:
     "child rape increasing the spread of aids in africa"
     "10,000 mourn 28 dead in car bomb explosion in n. ireland"

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like a few others have already mentioned...
i honestly can't say i adore one more than the other.
i think its b/c in so many ways i look at them as one.
yeah, they obviously have so many differences, but its their
combination of character that has made such an impact on my life.

bri

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"cut it out", "don't give that girl a gun" and "you left it up to me" by ig
(amy writes the best breakup songs!)

"don't", "a to zed" and "interlude" by e. cooper seay

"missing you" by john waite

"like the way i do" by melissa

that's just for starters...

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any09ne heard anything off this cd yet its due out this week

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  it's amazing how many different interpretations of this people have come up
with!  they all sound credible to me.  we might never know the true lyrics,
but i'm gonna listen to that one part alot closer now.

jennifer

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this is somewhat random, but i seem  recall there being some listees from the
univ. of va...

i've been on the list for years... now most a lurker, but i am moving to
c'ville on saturday and wanted to find out if anyone from the list was down
there. and if by chance you are... you aren't headed to the norfolk suff.
sess. show??? i would love to go... but have no ride.

thanks,
kate

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i saw "saving private ryan" last night...
just finished the book "push"--which describes abuse like i have never heard
before...or didn't want to acknowledge before...
woke up this morning, a day behind life, to read yesterdays articles:
     "child rape increasing the spread of aids in africa"---describes how
child rape is supposed to be "safe" from the infection of aids, so adult men
go to children younger than ten to rape them to be "safe", talks about
spiritual leaders telling men to rape young girls inorder to get rid of
aids--like the new blood is supposed to take the virus from the men--it talks
about how girls are viewed as worthless in society and therefore people,
families don't stop the rapes...don't want their names shamed...some get a
payoff from the rapist instead of a punishment...some allow the rapists to pay
to rape their daughters...nobody gets tested b/c its such a taboo subject...
     "10,000 mourn 28 dead in car bomb explosion in n.
ireland"---why...why...why...
      "nation stands behind clinton and attack on terrorism..."
why...why....why....we think that we are so fucking invincible and we're
not...this idiot that i voted for is going to antagonize a fucking war...all
in the name of fighting "terrorism"....terrorism which we have somehow
instigated....i have the feeling that those bombings are a symptom of
something greater than just a mere hatred of the u.s....why do we always need
an enemy?  why do we always need to be fighting the "good fight?"  it's not
good...it's going to kill us in the end...sudan is ready for a fucking holy
war because of this---this is the country--not the terrorists...
      "the left vs. right perspective on nations attack on terrorism..." --of
which the right says that even if labin wasn't the one who ordered the attack
on the embassy's--he was a terrorist leader and should be attacked
anyway...one way or another..."he has declared war on america...anyone who
declares war on america should be taken care of..." ---sound like tyrrany to
anybody?  kill your enemies...get rid of those who don't agree with you....
       "holmquist body found..."--for those of you who aren't from mn you
probably haven't heard of this one---a sixteen year old girl disappeared from
her small town inthe north west tip of mn july 27....she was found by a
teenager out hunting on friday...for some reason this story just hit home...it
was in an area that "it shouldn't, couldn't, was not supposed to" happen
in....reminds you that random acts of violene can occur anywhere, anytime...i
don' t know what to make of this thought--but i am thankful that she wasn't
raped and i hope that it was quick and that the man didn't toture her...she
disappeared while out rollerblading...found with her blades still on...

days like today, i get this sinking feeling...and i feel so damn
helpless...like, if only people could see it my way-=-everything would be
ok...but, i feel so small and i don't know where to start...and e's "i know
i'm small in way, but i know i'm strong" doesn't even help..

thanks for listening to me...i saw saving private ryan last night---intense
movie---really made me understand that each one of us does not have a
guarenteed right to exist here...that none of us "deserve" the life that we
have...everyday is a gift...and can be taken away--in a split second...war is
bad and ugly...and maybe it sometimes needs to be fought...but i don't even
know about that anymore....i just can't believe how much we all take for
granted...i can't believe how much i take for granted---starting with being
alive...

peace and love...that's all the world needs...
kara.

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and...

>
> "like the way i do" by melissa
>
how about "i'm the only one" by melissa?  i love that song...
peace,
    sharoane

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 15:26:42 -0500
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this is a plea for any and all males:  i am in a production of how to
succeed in business without really trying (a musical that takes place in
the business world), and (as is usually the case in theatre) we are in dire
need of men!  if anyone is interested, or knows anyone who would be
interested, please email me and i will pass the info along to you.
performance dates are october 23, 24, 30, 31, and november 6, 7, at the
prarie center for the arts in schaumburg.

thanks!
winona

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 13:27:52 +0000
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hi folks....

i'm usually a lurker, but had to post for this...

in my mind one album sums it all up: "everything's diffent now" by
till tuesday.

if i'm not mistaken, aimee mann wrote most of the songs after a major
breakup in her life...

take care

loner

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 13:48:52 pdt
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exile in guyville--the whole album...i know its hetero, but when my gf
and i broke up a couple years ago, i drove to work every morning with
that blasting out the open windows...it made me feel so much better to
scream along to "fuck & run" (to the amusement of my fellow commuters,
i'm sure).

hole (pick an album)--ditto the above

cowboy junkies--you will be loved again (on caution horses)

dgtgag, cio...all the amy songs on sots

i'm sure there's more, but i'm blanking now...

peas,
shelley

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  i have always been an amy person and my gf, an devoted emily fan; but i have
recently swayed over more towards emily.  it started after meeting the girls
at lilith in sf.  i was so in awe of amy that i couldn't talk.  amy signed my
postcard and passed it to emily.  i was so busy staring at amy that i didn't
even hear emily ask me my name (3xs!), till she touched my hand and said "hey,
what's your name??"
i told her jennifer and she repeated it and said, "here you go jennifer."  she
looked me right in the eyes and she was just so sweet and friendly.  amy was
more detatched.  anyways, i was taken by emily and now i like her a bit more
than amy.

jennifer

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on mon, 24 aug 1998, loner x. individual wrote:

> in my mind one album sums it all up: "everything's diffent now" by
> till tuesday.

        yeah, that was definitely a good one.
        if it comes to albums, "boys for pele" by tori amos is a pretty
good one . . . especially "caught a lite sneeze," "hey jupiter," and
"putting the damage on."

        screaming in cathedrals,
        shanie
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"i guess i'm an underwater thing so i guess i can't take it personally; i
guess i'm an underwater thing, i'm liquid running. . .  there's a sea
secret in me--it's plain to see that it is rising, but i must be flowing
liquid diamonds. . ."
                                        -- tori amos, "liquid diamonds"

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yeah, yeah.... i just posted about em now being my fave, but i have to tell
you all about my camping trip this weekend.
my girlfriend and i went camping for 2 days up near tahoe and proceeded to get
a little/lot toasted our 1st night there.  i brought my cd player and we were
playing the blue sys cd, alex's fave cuz it has blister in the sun on it.  we
both love the part of the song where amy laughs.  ahh!!!  so, being a bit
tipsy, we kept backing the cd up to that part over and over and over, etc....
till finally a lady from the camp site next to ours came over and said
something.  oh well.

still a tad obsessed w/ amy,  jennifer

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 17:46:30 edt
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hey kids!

i don't know the name of the song or the band, but it's one of my all time
favorites:

"you're breaking my heart
you're tearing it apart
so fuck you"

it never fails to make me laugh.  :)

peace,
lisa j., who's not usually the type to use the "f" word ;)
wouldn't want to ruin my chance to sing at a highschool in tennessee or north
carolina :)

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i have to disagree. it's too unoriginal! why does everything have to be "bands
name- heads". the grateful dead did it once, there's no need for a slew of
"heads" walking around:)
all in good fun,
ben

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l  vacuum state of peace.          l
l   - k's choice"                  l
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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 16:52:52 -0500
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hey peeps...

since my fellow u of chicagoan kristi has the wednesday listmeet under her
belt, i'm gonna follow her lead and take on the tuesday listmeet....

so......for people going on tuesday....keep an eye out for an "nigc" sign
somewhat near the front of the line before the show, on the sidewalk. (um,
only if there's no rain or large puddles of water...).  if not, there will
still be a sign somewhere...

ergo...stop by and say hi!  :)

also, just to make sure nobody gets lost, **the park west addy is 322 w.
armitage.**  right off of clark and armitage.  (i told someone a while ago
that it was 922..whoops, thats the addy to old towne skool of folk...sorry!)

okay....hope to see you guys!
--sue

p.s. hey pooh...  }:ţ  one more week and i can get you that sketch.

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mike wrote:

>  i heard on the radio in atlanta the other day about our indigo girls
opening
>  a restaurant called watershed!  i think they said in the l5p area but i
>  can't remember.  anyone got some info on this???

i heard about this a few weeks ago myself on one of the local radio stations.
this one said that emily was the one opening a new restaurant.   i think the
announcer started the spot off with something like this:  "an indigo girl
invites you to dinner".  the location is going to be on west ponce de leon in
decatur.   i *think* they said something about it being a gourmet wine bar and
restaurant or something like that.

=)
lisa

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when i first got into the indigo girls, some nine odd years and a couple
incarnations ago, i didn't like amy's songs much at all.  i was one of
those bookish-y, quiet teenagers, drawn to the poeticism of emily's
songs.  to be honest, i heard the raw, louder emotion of amy's songs and
didn't know what to make of it--i came to the indigo girls by way of
(well, not by way of, but in the immediate aftermath of) cyndi lauper,
top 40, late 80's starship, and the love of all things pop-ish.  i could
deal with sad and weeping, but i really had no context for a singer,
especially a woman, being loud or angry...the odd thing being that i was
probably that loud and angry, too, but was subscribing to the "wish &
hope & work too hard to think about it" school of teendom. and writing a
lot of poetry about walls without windows.

somewhere between there and my third year of college (where more came
together and fell apart than i can ever imagine), i started listening to
amy's songs again and finding more and more of myself in them.  staying
up all nights, touch me fall on single-song repeat for hours on end.

i love the lyricism of emily's songs,  i cry to ghost, everything in its
own time, history of us...but identify with the stronger, darker,
passionately vulnerable edge to amy's songs.  when i saw the girls for
the first time, her stage presence opened up a whole new realm of what a
woman can say and do and be, on a stage or anywhere.  something i
struggle to take with me into my own writing, to open my own mouth and
speak or sing, to uncurl the silence wrapped around my toungue.  to be
that present, that alive...

off to ballet.

peace,
shelley

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well in my case i've always thought i liked emily better, but wjen amy
puts all of that passion in singing one line of a song it always gets
me all
*tingly* inside! i don't have a favorite because they compliment
eachother so beautifully, can you even imagine hearing them apart?--i
mean one solo...no! they are the indigo girls because of their melodic
harmonies.

***i tend to like emily's poetry better, not because it is better, but
because i can relate to it more...but amy's voice is so passionate and
hits a chord in my soul


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how many other people out there have made the "break-up" tapes?  i have two
of them (i have had more break-ups, but...) both titled "unrequited" because
that's kind of what happened.  the most recent one (from about 2 months ago)
is half sad, please take pity on me and my sorry life and one part "fuck you
and your untouchable face" kind of things.  :)  they're both great tapes and
include everything from ig to ani to lowen & navarro to ferron (the queen of
breakup songs).

lisa

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"ran as hard as i could, still ended up here."
          -emily saliers

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ok everyone, i had somehow ended up with an extra ticket to the show on
friday night.  i'm not real happy about this and would really love anyone
who might want it.  :)  it cost me $23, i'll prolly ask $20 as i'm
unemployed at the moment.

lisa

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the acoustic cafe broadcast is available on-line now through real audio
at http://www.mlive.com/cafe/ and it will be there all week.   there is a
short bit of introduction text and a picture from the sots "sitting on
couches in the desert" pictures.   unlike what i thought from the timing,
they didn't just record it in the past day or so - they were doing lilith
when it was recorded.

enjoy!

alison

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"time for me to fly"  reo speedway

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i totally agree.  i live in burlington and heard the ads on the radio.  it
sounded to me that the girls were going to play and some guests would join
them on some songs.  i thought the women touring with them were going to be
their "backup" band.  i mean no disrespect to the other performers...that is
how they made it sound on the radio.  it was all worth it in the end...just to
hear power of two performed that way.  but i must say i was a little sad that
they weren't the main performers.

just my thought...
erin sue

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date:         mon, 24 aug 1998 19:10:57 -0400
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what with this old mail? btw all this cd is is pristine smut redone wiht a
few more songs

on mon, 3 aug 1998, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:

> any09ne heard anything off this cd yet its due out this week
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i'd never heard anything shawn mullins before, but i turned on the radio and
heard a song i really liked, only to hear the dj say it was by shawn mullins.
now, if he's the person i'm thinking of, i keep hearing about him on this
list....the song went something like:

"it'll all be okay...."
and
"her friend said she was pretty.....i said she'd be prettier if she'd only
smile a little..."

not exactly that, but close enough.

so i guess what i'm asking is, what album is this one, and is the whole album
as good as that song?

thanks!!!!
peace, openness, and bright indigo blessings,
lilith
"jesus is coming. look busy!"
"hold on to nothing as fast as you can..."
"the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less
seriously cause it's only life after all, yeah."
"i am looking for someone who can take as much as i give, give back as much as
i need, you know and they still have the will to live. cause i am intent, i am
in need, i am in pain, i am in love, and i feel forsaken, you know like the
things i gave away....."

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how about something like this?

                                     2
intimate strangers

(reading intimated strangers by the power of 2)
just a thought!

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that would be "soul's core" shawn's latest release...
the song in question was said to be the first single...
i believe it's called "lullaby" and it is a great song!
i picked up a copy at the ig show in carlisle, pa when he opened and
have had it in my car cd player non-stop since!

i highly recommend that album!

later,
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it's me again...

"say goodbye"  cheap trick

peace,
lisa j., who had a shrine to that band on the wall in her room all thru high
school :)

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well in my case i've always thought i liked emily better, but wjen amy
puts all of that passion in singing one line of a song it always gets
me all
*tingly* inside! i don't have a favorite because they compliment
eachother so beautifully, can you even imagine hearing them apart?--i
mean one solo...no! they are the indigo girls because of their melodic
harmonies.

***i tend to like emily's poetry better, not because it is better, but
because i can relate to it more...but amy's voice is so passionate and
hits a chord in my soul
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let's see . . .
                    "i hate myself for loving you" ~joan jett
                    "crazy love"  ~don't remember the singer
                     "in too deep" ~phil collins
        and any sad emily song.

jennifer

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hey folks,

this message was sent to the ecto mailing list.
i had a look on the sun-times site but couldn't
find the article - if anybody has more luck,
please forward the article on...

thanks,
sherlyn
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date: mon, 24 aug 1998 17:12:34 -0500 (cdt)
from: "mitchell a. pravatiner" <mapravat@prairienet.org>
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subject: suffragette sessions tour

the arts section of yesterday's chicago _sun-times_ has a story on the
suffragette sessions tour, sponsored by indigo girls and some other acts,
which is discussed as a nonhierarcical, noncorporate tour of alternative
artists.  it seemed to me that this might be of interest here, in view of
the thread on how lilith fair has allegdly gone corporate.

it may still be at the sun-times website, http://www.suntimes.com .

mitch

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in a message dated 24/08/98 19.24.43 est, jenindgo@aol.com writes:

<< "crazy love"  ~don't remember the singer >>


oooh, ooh! it's....it's.....oh, damn.....poco! poco, right? well, if that
isn't who you're talking about, it's still a great break-up song..... :-)
peace, openness, and bright indigo blesings!!!
lilith
"jesus is coming. look busy!"
"hold on to nothing as fast as you can..."
"the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less
seriously cause it's only life after all, yeah."
"i am looking for someone who can take as much as i give, give back as much as
i need, you know and they still have the will to live. cause i am intent, i am
in need, i am in pain, i am in love, and i feel forsaken, you know like the
things i gave away....."

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november rain, guns and roses.  makes me cry every time i hear it.
time for me to fly....can't think of the groups name right now, drawing
a blank, but it could sing it to you: ) oh yeah----reo speedwagon

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"be on your way" by dan fogelberg

        later
    oldmanbill
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hi!
all this talk on cleveland's suffragette show is getting me all ready
for cincinnati's show. :) so...i know lauren posted before but i was
wondering some of the same things. what time is everyone getting there?
where exactly is bogart's? directions, address, etc. i can see myself
getting lost now. :) hmmm, i thought i had another question but i lost
my train of thought. alrighty, hope everyone's having a great week!
becky
ps-meaghan-i don't know if you're on the list but if you are, can you
email me? just wondering about the cincy show and if you can go! :)
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hey y'all--
  i was wondering how many of you were going to the bogarts show on
sun....what time are you getting there etc.?  also, do you think we can
bring
cameras into bogarts?
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just wondering...

is anyone going to the philly ss
on september 2nd??
email me if you are
(other than kathleen!)

bri (who really hopes the rude ss audience members
comes to their senses before the philly show!)

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i will be coming down 71 south from columbus to get to bogarts sunday.
how do i get to bogarts once i enter cincy?
any directions would be greatly appreciated.
thanx

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break up songs (used with my last break up)

done wrong - ani
do what you have to do - sarah mclachlan
the letting go - melissa etheridge
hey jesus - ig

well those are the ones i can think of off the top of my head...

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of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

                                *****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
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doh!  i forgot the angry break up songs...like paula cole's "throwing
stones" and alanis morissette's "you oughta know"...along with "box of
tissues" and "love don't die" by disappear fear...um....yeah those too.

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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

                                *****

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okay
i've been giving this some thought and i am really...hmmm...
i guess it would be   confused?

   i have always been so impressed by what a respectful fan following
ig has had in the past. i have not been to a ss show yet but i am
going sept 2nd, and i really hope people come to their senses by
that point and gain some respect.

i understand what people are saying about the misleading advertising but, i
dont see that as any valid explanation for rudeness. if i hadnt read the
reviews,  i also would have went expecting an indigo girls show, but i cant
imagine being dissapointed by what it turned out to be... i thought part of
being an ig fan was remaining dedicated to a&e's willingness to try anything.
and like someone else mentioned... a & e obviously respect the people on stage
with them, or they wouldnt be there... so correct me if im wrong but i see it
as though> you disrespect one...you are affecting them all, (especially a&e)

quick question...
being a teenager myself, i was wondering if a majority of the
obnoxiousness was coming from teens?? people have mentioned it in the past
(rightfully so!!) but i was just curious
bri

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hey all,

thanks to rebecca for finding this suffragette sessions
article on the chicago tribune site and forwarding it
on...

:)
sherlyn
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suffragettes make music

by rick reger, chicago tribune.

   it seems as if every other summer package tour -- from lollapalooza to
lilith fair -- is hyped as a stereotype-smashing breath of fresh air. in
reality, most musical caravans end up reinforcing conventional notions about
particular artists or musical styles. but the suffragette sessions tour is one
extravaganza that may live up to its billing. the tour gathers an impressive,
diverse group of musicians and puts them together on stage simultaneously to
perform songs selected by each member of the group. in the words of tour
organizer amy ray: "the tour is a socialist experiment in rock 'n' roll.
gather a bunch of musicians from different musical genres who are relatively
unfamiliar with each other and see what happens." it's hard to predict whether
ray's experiment will be a revelation or a bust, but that uncertainty is
exactly what separates suffragette sessions from the competition. performers
include indigo girls, ann wilson (heart), lisa germano, jane siberry, kate
schellenbach (luscious jackson), thalia zedek (come), jean smith (mecca
normal), josephine wiggs (breeders) and more. the suffragette sessions tour
comes to town tuesday and wednesday at the riviera theatre, 4746 n. racine
ave. 312-559-1212.

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hey y'all,

go here for info on bogart's:

http://www.bogarts.com/shows/index.html

later,
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hkf,

if you just want to hear the ig part of the acoustic cafe show you can go to
http://www.mlive.com/cafe the section on the girls is around a half hour or
so give or take a few minutes.  i did record it off the internet and barring
a few seconds of signal drop in the beginning the rest of it sounds fine.
the ig only portion fits onto one side of a 60 min blank so if anyone wants
a copy, let me know.

peace,
karen

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oh, but ferron's "ain't life a brook" about makes me cry every time.  it's
so not fair!  :)  but then i get angry and think of "last to know" by evil
stig (stigs live) and "bulletproof" by the nields.  at least it gives the
semblence of trying to be strong.  :)

lisa
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> date: tue, 25 aug 1998 03:53:41 +0200 (cest)
>
>doh!  i forgot the angry break up songs...like paula cole's "throwing
>stones" and alanis morissette's "you oughta know"...along with "box of
>tissues" and "love don't die" by disappear fear...um....yeah those too.
>
>--audra
>
>
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>"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
>of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
>way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"
>
>                               *****
>
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>just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
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iggygrl8@aol.com wrote:

> quick question...
> being a teenager myself, i was wondering if a majority of the
> obnoxiousness was coming from teens?? people have mentioned it in the past
> (rightfully so!!) but i was just curious>

hmmm, i don't think i recall anyone saying specifically that teens were
the ones being obnoxious... i thought i read that there were quite a few
unruly drunk folks... i would assume that those were not teens.  i'm
with you though, i hope that the crowd at bogart's isn't as rude as some
of them have been up til now.  there are some great artists set to
perform and, even if you don't appreciate them all, you should show
respect for all of them.

i wonder if these folks (the loud & unruly ones) really realize what
type of show they're going to?  it doesn't sound like they do... i know
i wouldn't scream out a request for an ig song when this is obviously a
collaborative effort.  those select fans who were lucky enough to have
seen jesus christ superstar performed live... i don't recall hearing the
audience (on the tape) screaming for "closer to fine" or "strange
fire"!

it seems to me that if things don't improve with these shows... amy &
emily will be less inclined to do something like this in the future.
and i certainly consider myself lucky to have seen quite a few shows
since sots was released - why would i want to discourage them from
putting on more shows?

anyway, just venting...
twink!

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hi everyone,
i just received the amy compilation tape ( thanks pam!)...i love it!  i have a
question about "heartache central time". is this an original song? when was it
written? etc etc ...any information would be helpful...i love this song!  it
is so beautiful.
sorry if this has been talked about before..
thanks,
mollie

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hello daemon fans!  there's only one week left for the august trivia
game at daemon underground!  this month we are featuring new mongrels.
to play, go to www.daemonunderground.com

flyer queen  =)

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i'm sorry to post this to the list.  but i'm not sure where to look for
mac.

if anyone knows the whereabouts of mac henry, please have him e-mail
daemon underground headquarters before the first of spetember. e-mail us
at: flyerqueen@daemonunderground.com

note to trivia game players:  mac is the winner of the july dug trivia
game.  if we do not hear from him by september we will be choosing
another winner from the entries we recieved in june.  there is nothing
worse than having a winner that we can't find!  please, if you play the
daemon underground trivia games and you are not going to be near your
e-mail or you may be out of the country or something, let us know how to
find you!!!  now is a great time to get on our mailing list so this
never happends to you!  go to our web page and sign up through the
"about dug" (online request form) page.

thanks,

flyer queen  =)

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here are a few for now...

"beautiful people"- rusted root
"left me a fool"- ig
"so far away" - carol king
"for you"- tracy chapman
"baker baker"- tori amos
"little fall of rain"- les miserables
"save me" - k.d. lang

:)

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hi, i am new to this list, just got into it a few weeks ago, but i'm having a
great time reading all the mail and finding out there are people that love the
girls like i do..  anyways, i am leaving nyc for school.  just wanted to know
if there was anyone form this list in the boston area...
:)
shirley

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hey all---i'm trying to figure out how much the sst t-shirts are at the
concert--i am buying for some people who aren't going to be able to make any
shows---and i need to know how much they should send me asap because i'm going
this friday (and tomorrow is tuesday and i don't trust the mail...) so if a
kind sould out there would let me know--i would greatly appreciate it!!!!

i'm thinking $18-25  but i could be totally wrong...so, please let me know!!!
i know somebody outhere tonight has to have been to a show already!!!

peace,
kara.

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i like "the waiting song" by ani

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for future reference i can't take anymore requests for sst t-shirts...everyone
who emailed me about the shirts should have gotten a reply from me and i am
awaiting replies back!  so, with that all said and done---i still need to know
how much they are--please, please, please...

kara.

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linda ronstadt : hasten down the wind  (the whole cd)

aerosmith : remember- walking in the sand

james taylor : hey mr (that me up on the jukebox)

journey: lovin touchin squeezin

ok so it's been a while since i've had a breakup...

paulal

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suffragette t-shirts were $15 at the detroit show last night... review
to come...

peace,
amy

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that amazing little gal who sang with them at newport.....

send $14 (includes shipping and handling)

to:

>rose polenzani
>c/o gabriel unger artist management
>69 williams st.
>jamaica plain,  ma  02130

(thanks margaret!!!)

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(ahem)

"one more hour" by sleater-kinney
"you suck" by the murmurs
"done worng" ani difranco
"freewheel" team dresch
"that's mister baby to you" kaia

...cause sometimes it's nice to hear those pronouns

sus

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oooh, what a blast!

thanks to the peoples from the list, i was able to get to the second
row. it was hot and there was a _whole lot_ of pushing. i thought jill
was going to sock someone...
the audience was pretty darn good. the performers seemed genuinely
thankful that we were listening and dancing and getting into the show.
i'd never been so close at a concert before and it made the experience
that much better! it was phenomenal!
i loved all of it (and i was so worried). that's right, even jean smith
and her freaky stare-downs. buffalo daughter rocked. even with the gross
sweaty people standing on top of me i danced the night away.

jane sibbery "hosted" and she rocked! emily was into it and made a lot
eye contact. smiles all over the place. amy was very detached. i think i
saw her look at the audience maybe 3 times. she closed her eyes, looked
at the microphone, stood with her back to us, or looked at the other
performers the whole time. but she did joke some and smiled a few times.

after the show, amy got right on the bus, said thanks for coming and all
that good stuff. emily signed some autographs... i didn't get one. :(
from her anyway. :)

sully rocks!! she is very bery kind and patient. everyone has said so
and i agree. she talked with a bunch of us, signed some autographs,
talked to us a bit... she gave some of us setlists. she is so polite and
friendly and makes lovely eye contact with everyone she talks to. *sigh*
it was very cool.
i got my shirt autographed by gail ann dorsey, lisa germano, sulli, rose
p, and thalia!! woohoo!!

here's the set list: (it all rocked!)
1. beginning of time (jane)
2. roll the dice (with a cute little picture of a die)
3. cimarron (thalia)
4. reptile (lisa)
5. tengo (lourdes)
6. chisar(?) (jean)
7. sister (amy)
8. power of two (em) rockin' dance song now!
9. wood floors (lisa)
10. pullin' a cloud (gail)
11. love is everything (jane)
12. under the skin (from lucious jackson)
13. pale light (thalia)
14. a song by rose (what a sweetheart!)
15. ziggy (gail)
16. soon to be nothing (emily)
17. vestigios (lourdes)
18. in canada-spoken (jean)
19. go go go (amy) rock!
encore
20. radio (lisa)
21. finale jam- everyone sang their most memorable line of the night.

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oops, that went out before i was all the way done. sorry! (i'm tired,
sorry!)

uh... it was cool! the final jam was kickin! kate is great!
and finally!
22. midnight train to georgia. (yeah.. rocked too)

okay, i know i said rocked and kicked and all sorts of other stupid
words, but it was so much fun. i'm exhausted and the right eloquent
words won't come out.
if can go to one, do it!! now! yeah... and go through the line and ask
people if they're on the list. it makes for a more interesting wait in
line ("oh my god!" "look out jill, here come the police!"). thanks to
jamie, mairvel, jill, and carol for making it fun. glad you didn't get
in a fight, jill. :)

peace,
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>> "like the way i do" by melissa
>>
>how about "i'm the only one" by melissa?  i love that song...

or, twist the knife a bit further and go for "similar features" and
"bring me some water." gotta love ms. e.....


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date:         tue, 25 aug 1998 15:22:56 +0000
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hi!

i just updated my "where were you?" pages (you know, stories about
discovering ig). i uploaded all the stories that have been posted to
the list more or less recently and also those which were submitted
via my site.

if anybody feels he or she missed out on this and wants to share
his/her story, go ahead and submit it via the site or mail it to the
list or mail it directly to me.

the story index is at:
http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/68800/homepage/indigo/where.htm

peace,
kathrin
peace
and
take care,
kathrin

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ok, i am going to toss in my two cents about the rude humans....

it seemed to me that these people were not at the show because they are
ig fans, but rather that they were there because it "was the cool place"
to be....basically it was bandwagoners and the people who go because it
is like a giant gathering of lesbian women, so they feel that, as
lesbians, they should attend as well.

i have had many a run in with this type of person and most of you
probably have as well, be it in concerts or in everyday life. these are
the individuals who show up to the concert, they are apathetic as to
where they stand (or sit) as long as they have beer readily available,
and spend a lot of the evening chatting with their friends and
applauding when everyone else does.  they occasionally sing if "galileo"
or "least complicated" is played, because they *do* know those words,
and by mid-set, they are ripped enough to tell amy how much they love
her.  they are the full and total reason that you may think to yourself
"there should be a test that you have to take in order to purchase
concert tickets.."

for example, the girl who screamed "fuck her....i don't even know her.."
in regard to jane siberry,  had already cemented herself in my brain as
a complete and total moron when she said outside in line:

"i hope they sing midnight train to georgia..that is my favorite indigo
girls song off of 12,000 curfews."

yes folks, that's right.  she said twelve thousand, and had no
realization whatsoever that it is a gladys knight and the pips song.
she was also the same person to whom emily snapped "maybe!" when she
screamed she wanted to hear mttg.  why was she there?  because she loves
the music and the girls, because she went with her friends and saw it as
a way to get drunk, or because she felt that she "had" to go even though
she may not know one damn thing about the girls and their music and what
makes them tick?

there were others too, the drunk people who just showed up with 5 or 6
friends, who said things like "the red-haired one is hot" and "which one
is sara lee?" and those who saw it as a chance to get loaded and
bullshit with one another while ignoring the presence of 9 women on the
stage.

from my expericence, it is going to be like this at every show, because
these people are not going as ig fans, but as people who have nothing
else to do and see it as a chance to go out with their friends to the
bar.  there is no appreciation of the music there.  none whatsoever.

just my $.02.  flame at will, but do so privately!!!!!!!!

karrie

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hey there folks! since sue mentioned me knowing something, i guess i
shouldimpart somewisdom on all of you--okay, wednesday's listmeet-i was
thinking that after the concert we should kind of get away from the crowd
and walk down to north and wells. it is six whole chicago blocks, so
perhaps it's a bad idea...so, let's meet outside of park west and discuss
it. i will be carrying a mediumish sign that says something list related
(hate to copy sue's idea, but i might just go with sigc, because there is
some igc, come on!) or maybe just listmeet one of those two, ok? i will
walk out of the theater and take a right. i will try to stay close to the
theater. anyone going that hasn't already emailed me or julie, that's
great, come join us, but a way to recognize us: julie made approx. 3x5
inch hanging laminated tags that say "team indigo sst '98 <name> listee",
so look for us and say "hi" if you see us in line or at the show or
whatever. hope to see lots of y'all. bye for now!

k-bye!
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squeezebox days - the murmurs
(for that matter, the whole "all over me" soundrack)
grace           - michelle malone
monopoly        - shawn colvin
blood on the tracks - the whole album - bob dylan

hope to see y'all tonight in chicago...and that those crazy winds and
thunderstorms can behave and hold off until thursday (or at least hold
off before and after the shows).

:),
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here are a few that blow me away.....

rosanne cash  "interiors"........the whole cd

janis ian  "hunger".....great cd.....especially "getting over you"

janis ian   "tea and sympathy" from "between the lines";  "jesse" from "stars"

disappear fear  "box of tissues"

later...
tim

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to those who have already attended:

just wondering if anyone had any advice on getting good seats
and really anything like that
i know people have mentioned getting autographs and stuff...
what do you think a good time would be to go if the show starts at 7:30

thanks in advance
bri

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>or, twist the knife a bit further and go for "similar features" and
>"bring me some water." gotta love ms. e.....

how 'bout "i will never be the same." there's also "leave" by barenaked
ladies, "landslide" by fleetwood mac, and "piece of my heart" by janis joplin

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from the heartbreak tape i made ....
(yes lisa nordeen ! i too have made a heartbreake tape ;)
:)claire ............................

in my solitude, good morning heartache - billy holiday

i am the blues, lonely women - laura nyro

i think it's gonna rain today - nina simone

boulder to birmingham - emmylou harris

ghost - indigo girls
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for the truly bitter, try "song for the dumped" by ben folds five

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hi...sorry for the bandwidth but i just got a return to sender for some person
i sent a tape to from providence, rhode island.... if you are and you live on
dover street, let me know your correct street addy.

thanks,

jude :)

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guess what's so cool? in my chorus today, i got really excited and peppy and
freaked everyone out, b/c my conductor handed out the music for wiw!!! i
started hyperventilating(or at least that's what everyone must've thought) and
i kept saying, "omigosh, i love this song!" and no one could quite figure out
why, since all but 2 of our baritones are flat. :-)

peace, openness and bright indigo blessings,
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at 07:45 pm 8/24/98 -0400, you wrote:
>that would be "soul's core" shawn's latest release...
>the song in question was said to be the first single...
>i believe it's called "lullaby" and it is a great song!
>i picked up a copy at the ig show in carlisle, pa when he opened and
>have had it in my car cd player non-stop since!

yes, the song is indeed "lullaby" and for all those who would like to
purchase this wonderful album(or any of shawn's other great stuff), you can
visit his website at www.shawnmullins.com.
i believe his cd's are $15.
or
you can wait until columbia records re-releases "soul's core" nationally on
sept. 15 (with a bonus track)
but
all you collector types will want the current version as it will eventually
be more rare and hard to find......
again.....he will be on tour starting in september so look for him in your
area (and remember, say hi to julie clark and david patterson (former lift)
while you're at it!)
a video for "lullaby" is in the works as well, so keep your eyes open!
feel free to forward any other questions to me.
oh yeah....he and the band are playing "the loft" in columbus, ga this
saturday if anyone is interested.
thanks.
cheri

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hey ya'll!!
since i have developed an addiction to tori amos shows, i'm trying to
fund a trip to go and see her when she's in new orleans in october.
so...i've got some stuff for sale! :)

first off, there are still a couple shania twain promo posters left at
$10 a piece.

i'm auctioning off a surfacing promo poster. the scan isn't that great,
but you can check out it all at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ms/squeekyfromme/surfpromo.html

bidding starts @ $18! thanks a lot ya'll!

*hugs*

lamia

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how about green days' "good riddance" (hope you had the time of your life)

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hey everyone--

i just listened to the acoustic cafe session -- it's great.  by all means
check it out.  here are some thoughts i came away with after hearing it...

#1 -- i always respect interviewers for not gushing.  when i listen to stuff
like this, i just cringe at how i'd've conducted the interview:

lisa: oh my god!  i love you guys!  you're so awesome!  i can't believe i'm
talking to you right now!!!!!!!
a+e: umm, great.  do you have a question for us?
lisa: oh my god!!!!!!!!!!! *various sounds of hyperventilation*
a+e:  *rolling their eyes and sighing*

#2 -- doesn't "go" have a distinct neil young sound to the chorus?

#3 -- and this is just an opinion -- don't flame me! -- there are some songs
of theirs that i would like a lot more if they were played more uptempo.
"galileo" leaps to mind.  whenever i hear it live it d-r-a-g-s.  am i the only
one who'd like them to jam it up on this song?

peace,
lisa j., who only has 3 more days at the coffee hell hole!!!!!!  :)

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anyone happen to know the chords for "gone again?"

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hey y'all!

i was just surfing on the dug site and noticed that on their links page
they have listed (still at the same mailing addy i've had for years)...
donna santisi, photographer.  let me just say that i have ordered
several pictures from her... amy, cooper, and wendy bucklew... and they
are fabulous.  she has very high quality work and she will ship them to
you.

if memory serves, seems like 8 x 10's (mine in black & white... i don't
recall if she has color shots or not) were like $10 or $12.  though i
can't really say if that was right... y'all might want to inquire with
her about it.

i truely was shocked to find her still at the same addy... but, since i
was so pleased with the quality of her photos, i couldn't resist letting
you all know that donna would be a wonderful source for anyone who wants
some great ig, ejs, wb, mm... etc... photos!

try dropping her a line to see what she has available and check her
rates for mail order... might want to list some artists you are
interested in pictures of.

in fact, i might try getting in touch with her myself to see if i can
get some more pics too!!

later,
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the cleveland plain dealer

suffragette sessions tour born during indigo girls'  break
by anastasia pantsios

08/22/98

  about five years ago, emily saliers and amy ray, collectively known as the
indigo girls, had an idea. the georgia duo, long known for their intense,
socially conscious folk-rock, batted around the idea of assembling a bunch
of musicians from different genres and mounting a traveling jam sesion.

that idea finally became reality this year in the form of the suffragette
sessions tour, which stops at the odeon tonight. ray, saliers and nine other
women musicians, many strangers to each other, hit the road this week after
a mere three days of rehearsals for a two-week minitour of showcase clubs
and small theaters.

saliers and ray started to plan the tour in earnest after last year's lilith
fair concluded.

"over the course of the year, we started talking about who we wanted to be
on the tour and where we wanted to play and things like keeping the ticket
prices low," explains saliers. "people are getting paid barely nothing and
we're all crammed together on a bus and staying in cheap places, so whoever
decided to go had to be in the spirit of that sort of socialist music
experiment."

the duo drew on musicians like former david bowie band member gail ann
dorsey, canadian songwriter jane siberry and luscious jackson's kate
schellenbach, all of whom they had worked with before, plus former breeder
josephine wiggs, jean smith of mecca normal, loudres perez and come's
founder-guitarist-vocalist thalia zedek, whom they had never even met.
(heart's ann wilson and violinist-vocalist lisa germano are also on the tour.)

each artist picked three songs, decided which other players she wanted and
made a tape with the chord changes and lyrics.

"everybody got a packet with everybody else's music and the person who
picked the songs would say, well, i'd like thalia to play guitar on this
song or i'd like gail to play drums instead of bass.  everyone listened to
the music and prepared themselves for rehearsals. it stayed pretty true to
form, but some people who weren't initially listed on the artist's
requirements would just pick up a banjo or play keyboards and add to the
texture of a song. i was
surprised at how effortless it was because we're all so different. but we've
learned the songs really quickly and we're enjoying each other's company."

she suggests that's due to a common passion for a wide range of music.

"i think everybody just loves to play music and has an open mind and
believes that just because you may be particularly drawn to one kind of
music doesn't mean you can't get a meaningful experience playing a different
kind of music."

saliers says it's almost an accident that this adventurous assemblage is all
women.

"it didn't start out as some grand design. maybe we just discussed it being
all women because women don't get that many opportunities to do this kind of
thing," she said.

"but lilith fair has shown that you can put large numbers of women acts
together and have a commercially successful tour and there's been a change
as far as radio programmers putting women back to back on their playlists.
but it's much more accepted for men to go out and be in rock bands, let
their hair down and do their thing than it is for women."

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yeah, i know this has gotten way old, but i just had to mention some that have
been neglected.  if i were to be queen of anything, it would be queen of
break-ups......i've had so many!  i should be an expert, but it still hurts
like hell.  so, out of all of my many break up tapes i have mixed together, i
will list a few here that might be a good song for a current breaker-upper:

ok, some of these may not be actual break up songs, but songs about heartache
nonetheless:

carry me away - amy ray
sweet gypsy - amy ray
always be there/i'll be there - amy ray
scared to say we're friends - amy ray
you left it up to me - amy ray
soul child - shawn mullins
full of grace - sarah mclachlan
the last word - mary chapin carpenter
smoke and ashes - tracy chapman
path of thorns (terms) - sarah mclachlan
troubled mind - catie curtis

there are so many others, but i cannot think of them here.......i've been
doing alot of heartache/break-up research lately and so 'tis fresh on my mind.

maybe we should do a love affirmation survey and see what songs we could come
up with for that!

amanda

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date:         tue, 25 aug 1998 12:42:06 -0400
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so sorry everyone but i don't have access to my other email and sandy and
i think it was carrie are taping things for me so could you please email
me at 4sel1@qlink.queensu.ca if you have any questions. thanks,
sarah

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excerpts from internet.music.indigo-girls: 25-aug-98 the drunken rude
ppl in cle.. by karrie@ncinter.net
> it seemed to me that these people were not at the show because they are
> ig fans, but rather that they were there because it "was the cool place"
> to be....basically it was bandwagoners and the people who go because it
> is like a giant gathering of lesbian women, so they feel that, as
> lesbians, they should attend as well.


i guess that's one way of looking at it, but here is another....

i think people seemed really drunk for an ig concert, but they were not
all that drunk for many of the shows i've seen back in the day.  i guess
the ig fans (myself included) are used to people politely sitting,
clapping, and maybe a little dancing.  this show was pretty calm
compared to a lot of shows i've been to especially the kind of shows
that would draw mecca normal fans.  i mean it's not like they were
moshing on the floor.

also, i think people were given too much time to drink.  the first band
went on a half an hour late.  i was standing there thinking, "man, i
could use a beer".  i got my beer, and the opening band still wasn't on
stage, and then i started to think, "man, i could use another beer".
then buffalo daughter finished and it took a long time (too long) to get
the suffragettes on stage, and then i started to think, "man, i gotta
pee, and then i can get myself another beer".  i was lucky that it was
like a million degrees on the floor because it allowed me to sweat
myself sober for the long ride home.

i don't like defending public drunkeness, but i think the suffragettes
kind of invited it for that show.

gabrielle

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<< "cut it out", "don't give that girl a gun" and "you left it up to me" by ig
>>

also, "fare the well" and "left me a fool".....emily songs. take care.

                                              --katy--

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hey y'all!!!

see some of ya tomorrow (wednesday) at the suffragette sessions tour show!
i'll (probably) be wearing a lorax (ya know, the dr. seuss character who
speaks for the trees...) tee shirt, my blue ig hat, and the 'backstage
pass' that jules made for us.  i could very possibly be late (aka miss the
opening act late which would be a shame), but i am very short and i'll
try to make my way up front.  if anyone sees jules please tell her that if
i am not there on time not to worry, just to go enjoy herself.  i will be
driving from ohio (school) and my last class ends at 2:50 (1:50 chicago
time).  of course, even if i am not up front at this one, i'll be at the
cincy show on sunday and i wanna be in the first row!!!  okay, so i am
looking forward to meeting some of you tomorrow.  keep an eye out for me.
remember: short, brown hair, ig hat, lorax shirt and eyebrow ring...
(sorry, my tattoo is hidden...)

love,
karen :-)

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hi y'all!

did anyone tape acoustic cafe?  would anyone be willing to make me a copy?
all i want is the ig part.  we can trade if you wish.  i have a boot page
up at http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/indigodar

thanks!

love,
karen :-)

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date:         tue, 25 aug 1998 19:28:38 -0700
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ok, now here's the info on the burlington suffragette boot....
this one is 110 min. long and just as fuzzy as the me boot.  below are the
branches and the set list.

uk                claudine    claudine@cablenet.co.uk
jan feb       alison        alisont@netcom.com
mar april      leslie        holeman@biology.ucsc.edu
may june     keri            kpink@unm.edu
july aug       karen        kt14017@cedarnet.org
sept oct      kathleen    sissookie@aol.com
nov dec      jude           hunterj1@aol.com
and for any overflow       worldfalls@earthlink.net

sidea
roll the dice-everyone
?-thalia zedek
intro-josephine wiggs
way below the radio-lisa germano
vestigios-lourdes perez
power of two-emily saliers
chisel-jean smith
love is everything-jane siberry
reptile-lisa germano
pullin' a cloud-gail ann dorsey
in canada-jean smith

sideb
go-amy ray
tengo la vida-lourdes perez
wood floors-lisa germano
fay tucker-ar
soon to be nothing-es
under your skin-ar
encore:
fisherman-jane siberry
blister in the sun-ar
ziggy stardust-gail ann dorsey

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hey y'all,
ok, here's the info on the portland maine suffragette boot....
it is 90 min. long, and it's pretty fuzzy, so don't say i didn't warn ya'.
below i'll list the branches and then the set list.  please try to use
maxell ii tapes and remember to send your branch a sase if you are trading
for blanks.

uk                 claudine  claudine@cablenet.co.uk
jan, feb       steph      dreamst8@yahoo.com
mar, april      lisa        memememi@aol.com
may, june     erica      cicada16@aol.com
july, aug       lamia     saliers_ray@hotmail.com
sept, oct      karen/jill   ufgtrfan@aol.com
nov, dec      alison       alisont@netcom.com

and for any overflow
                      java        worldfalls@earthkink.net

here is the set list.  i included who sang lead on the song (which is not
necessarily who wrote the song.)

side a
roll the dice-everyone jammed on this song
way below the radio-lisa germano
(intro)-amy ray
cimarron-thalia zedek
vestigios-lourdes perez.
power of two-emily saliers
chisel-jean smith
love is everything-jane siberry
pullin' a cloud-gail ann dorsey
go-amy ray

side b
tengo la vida-lourdes perez
soon to be nothing-emily saliers
pale light-thalia zedek
wood floors-lisa germano
under your skin-amy ray
encore:
nueva senorita-amy ray
ziggy stardust-gail ann dorsey
flirtin' is a flow thing-jane siberry

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date:         tue, 25 aug 1998 21:37:42 -0600
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>maybe we should do a love affirmation survey and see what songs we could come
>up with for that!

yeah...what about songs for being in love?  i mean good ones...not cheesy
ones.  whatever that means to you.  i vote for "power of two".  that's a
sigh-inducing song if ever there was one.

and also james taylor's "something in the way she moves".

j u s t i n

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date:         tue, 25 aug 1998 21:03:13 -0600
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favorite? who's my favorite? i'm afraid that's one of those
unanswerable questions, like what color is noise? or something like that.
in answer to that question, i need only quote the much-adored jilly c.,
"amy is the stuff fantasies are made of, emily is the stuff romantics
yearn for." or is it the other way around? feel free to correct me, jill.
also, see below quote. the answer to the unanswerable question being that
the two are so different in so many ways that it's practically impossible
to compare them.

amy m.

p.s. on an unrelated note, does anyone know how to pronounce cooper's last
name?

p.p.s. after never really being that interested in luscious jackson
(except to take longing looks at drummer kate when i happen to see pics),
i finally purchased a cd of theirs, "natural ingredients". may i just say,
this album is phat. wait, did one of your fellow intimate strangers just
use the word "phat" in a sentence? indeed i did. check it out.

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date:         tue, 25 aug 1998 20:31:07 pdt
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i think these are some pretty good break-up songs:

pissing in a river (the patti smith group)
daffodil lament (cranberries)
linger (cranberries)
i'll be okay (amanda marshall)
shadowboxer (fiona apple)


liz

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date:         tue, 25 aug 1998 23:41:20 edt
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queen's "all dead" - i don't know if anyone listens to them, but it's funny
and just strikes me as appropriate, if not strictly relevant in lyrics.

love,
alissa

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the cure's lovesong!  yeah!!!  the cure is the best band ever!  i mean...
*ahem*  <calming>

love,
alissa

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 00:02:25 edt
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yes, you're probably getting tired of seeing my name on the mail sending end
of this thing, but please, bare with me.  yah, that "poor. poor, me, brain
injured, self pity, chick again".

my long term memory is fine, but i have no short term memory.  and, to make
things more challenging, i just bought a pc and got on line a little over a
month ago.  i lost several years of my life to rehab.

thanks to all of you, i know i have missed quite a lot.the only ig music i own
are their commercial cd's.  i want it all.  i need it all to feed my spirit.
is there a place i can go to find a listing of all the music i've heard
discussed at this address?  i want to buy it all.  i know it can help heal my
tattered heart.  where do i start?

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    hey... i went to sam goody today and i asked about the indigo girls box
set, for my girlfriend.  and the idiot behind the counter knew nothing about
it. (he also called them weird. asshole!) anyway... he had to order it and he
asked us if it was indigo christmas were looking for. so my question is do the
indigo girls have a christmas album? also, he said it was out of print so, is
there any wayi can get it?
                                              thanks!
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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 01:50:06 edt
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ok friends, i need some help!

lynn (chance0631) suggested i listen to the holly cole 1997 album "dark dear
heart," and now i have a nagging question.

song one on side 2 is called "river" and i know ig have sung it before!  i
just cant remember where!  it starts out...

it's coming on christmas
they're cutting down trees
they're putting up reindeer
and singing songs of joy and peace
oh i wish i had a river
i could skate away on

thanks for your help!!!

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 02:01:02 edt
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indigo babs writes:
>"song one on side 2 is called "river" and i know ig have sung it before! i
just cant remember where!  it starts out..."

emily sings it on 1200 curfews....amy writes.."i have memories of standing on
the of the stage, listening to emily sing 'river' and wondering what to give
her for christmas."

it's originally joni mitchell  (a version was played in the background of
"dawson's creek" last year.)

mary

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 00:26:21 -0600
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ok, after listening to this awesome show, i would be most grateful to any
person more guitar literate than me who would happen to have a clue as to
what the chords are for "gone again"? so, has anyone taken the time out of
their busy schedules to figure it out??? (she asked, on her knees
begging.)

amy m., still coasting on new ig music (i know, i know, it really hasn't
been that long, but still...y'all understand)

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 02:30:07 edt
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thanks all!

i got it now!

i just missed it when i ran over my cd covers!

and i cal my self a fan!  ha!

babs

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 06:57:03 -0500
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hey hey peeps...

i'm not gonna go nuts on a descriptive review...but, i must say that last
nite's show has probably been the best for them so far.  how do i know?
they kept thankin us for listening... and...lots of smiles!!! our crowd of
800 where pretty damn quiet through out the show...even for the scary jean
smith songs.  we were quiet when we supposed to be, and all the
"woohoooing" came at the right times (at least up in the front for most of
the nite).  i swear...at the end, even jean the "scary suffragette" stopped
to say "thanks chicago!!" with a smile on her face.
anyways, everyone on the cramped little stage was relaxed and there was
lots of banter and jokin around back and forth in between songs.  i think
everybody's finally got their grooves in sync :)

guests for the nite:  kelly hogan and rose polenzani (as amy said, rose
*is* the shit!)

the host for the nite was josephine whiggs of the breeders.  (people!!  if
you want to request songs, request the breeders' "cannonball"!!  it should
be played in tonite's show...hopefully).

here is what's on their setlist:
roll the dice
love is everything
woodfloors
"jean" -- spoken word bit
tengo la vida  (woo! en espanol!)
cimarron
pullin a cloud
under your skin (i loved this)
"olga's birthday" -- solo by rose polenzani
pale light
chisel
vestigious
go (before i thought the old version was better...i think i changed my mind
now!)
miko case song -- kelly hogan guest lead vocal
power of two (i dont think i have ever seen emily hop around so much :d )
way below the radio
soon to be (em's new one)
ziggy stardust
---
fisherman
**gone again** (not on the original setlist)
mignight train to ga

okay thats gonna be it for this review...i do wanna add that i was proud to
be a part of the respective crowd last nite.  go chicago!!  wooo!!!!

okay.  gotta go study for finals...later!
--sue

p.s.  it was good seeing some listees again, and meeting new ones. ::waving
hi::

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 09:11:23 -0500
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thank you sue for that review of tuesday's chicago show.  i will just add
my 2 cents and opinion as you did quite the sum up job.  oh and it was so
nice to see you and meet some other list members.  i was also very proud of
my fellow chicagoans. very well behaved crowd.  some guy yelled galileo
after a new amy song and she said we're not doing that in a mini-scolding
of the crowd but otherwise no romeo and juliet requests like i usually hear
yelled out at the shows.

the park west is a great venue and there are no bad seats--very intimate.
the crowd seemed to be very into ig and knew all the perfect crowd
participation areas (they woo woo-ed at just the right moments during
midnight train to georgia).  combine the great venue, the happy girls and
the good crowd--i must say i feel very teased.

this will probably not be the popular opinion of the shows but here goes.
i knew going in not to expect an ig show.  i knew we would only get a few
ig songs.  and believe me--the rock out po2 was well worth the wait and the
having to listen to jean smith lecture.  but all the elements were there
for an amazing show and i just felt teased.  the girls were definitely
spotlighted, as nice and pc as they have tried to be by making everyone in
the band seem on an equal level.  i mean they were front and center
throughout.  i love the idea of experimenting with other artists and as amy
puts it--this is a socialist experiment.  i know the girls are into being
extra diverse and pretty much put together this tour partially in response
to some criticism that lilith fair got.  the idea is great.  but musically,
i give it a five.  i mean the whole crowd was an ig crowd and some of the
music was like thrasher music and way too loud and electric.  the crowd was
very polite but seemed pretty bored through the first half of the set.

i dunno--bottom line--the show is not for everyone.  many loved it.  i did
not.  great to see the girls so happy and just to see them in general, but
there was so much potential for more.  like if ig toured with all the folks
who have opened for them in the past--now that would be a show.  ig jammin
with kristen hall, wendy bucklew, danielle howle, disappear fear--i can
only dream.  at least all those artists are in the same musical genre.
i'll be back tonight and will try to have a more open mind as i suggest
those going to future shows should have as well.

tata

greg

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 09:11:10 -0500
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hi,
just a note to let everyone in the nashville area know that three finger
cowboy will be playing at the boro in murfreesboro on sept. 2. they're a
great band! if you need more info/directions, email me.
thanks,
lani

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 07:38:57 pdt
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it was posted
>it's originally joni mitchell  (was played in the background of
>"dawson's creek" last year.)

hmmm... and last night, as i was flipping the channels, i heard michelle
malone's voice singing, "could you take it easy on me/ would you take it
easy on me/ would you like to see me crawling..."
why yep indeedy.  it was dawson's creek, and they were using the
beautiful vibrato goddess's song 'grace' as background music in a scene
where some girl gets to kiss some guy she likes, but he's only doing it
on a dare, etc etc etc.
incidentally, about 1 minute later in the episode, said girl, pining for
said boy, exclaims, "i wish i *were* a lesbian!"  coincidence?  hm.

jill, who will have some detroit suffragette thoughts at approx. 7pm
tonight.  ;)


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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 11:01:50 edt
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well, it's a joni mitchell song (from blue), but it's also on 1200 curfews.

love,
alssa

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 10:01:35 -0500
reply-to:     kristin marie wade <kmwade@midway.uchicago.edu>
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subject:      tonight in chicago
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okay, i swear this is my last post about the listmeet. just in case you
see me inside--i will also be wearing the hangy tag that julie made that
explained earlier. i am wearing a dark gray school house rocks conjunction
junction t-shirt. i will be with a 6'3" guy with long hair.
myself--5'7"-ish with brown curly hair with a blod streak you can sometimes see
(shoulder length hair). perhaps the only distinguishing thing about me is
that i have no distinguishing things like eyebrow rings or tatoos or
anything. hmph. gotta work on that. the blond streak is just as crazy as
i get! i just got a picture of greg f. from his aids ride letter so i know
who to look for there, and karen provided a description...see you all
tonight!

k-bye!
kristi
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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 08:10:18 pdt
reply-to:     shelley miller <strange_fire66@hotmail.com>
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okay, i'll try and post this before the server gets too flustered here
at work and won't let me stay on-line...as sue covered the set list, i
won't try and recapitulate...wasn't exactly a linear kind of night
anyway...

my beefs first:  sue must have been in a better spot towards the front
than diane and i were...the crowd to the rest of us seemed to fall into
the "here for the scene" category...they followed along well enough when
the girls were singing, and bopped around for part of buffallo daugter's
set, but if they talked through one more slow song, i was going to take
out the whole group.  they got quieter as the show progressed, but
still...fan beef #2--the girls directly behind me who sat down when the
girls weren't singing...

that said, i thought the show was pretty interesting...the first half
seemed to be pretty dark--maybe weighed down by jean smith's first
spoken-work performance...there was a fair amount of anger going on up
there.  it was strange to be at a show and not know the words to every
song.  i'm so used to singing along to every song...po2 was great--a lot
of crowd-singing, a lot of bopping around...it was nice to see emily so
energetic.  i've been an amy person for a long time, but emily seemed so
much more connected with the crowd (and more comfortable with being on
stage) than amy last night...it could also be that i met emily, but
that's another story for later.  amy looked tired, and (for the first
time in the 7 shows i've been to) older...

...can i just say what a doll diane is?  i ended up in line next to her,
and after a few minutes of conversation, we realized that we were both
on the list, and hung out for the rest of the night.  i listened to the
last part of the soundcheck through a grate in the wall...they practiced
cannonball for a good twenty minutes, so i'm guessing that's the new
song for tonight.  amy, emily, and kate schellenbach (sp?)walked out the
side door maybe five feet in front of us to go get dinner.  i was
(doh!!!!!) turned the other direction.  definitely bringing a camera
tonight.

hung out by the busses afterwards for what seemed like hours.  finally,
one of the security guards yelled out that there was no one left inside,
and we could go home (adding something about anyone under 18 being out
past curfew and risking a ticket, whatever that was about).  as diane
and i were walking towards the street, someone brushed past us and
whispered that emily was still inside.  as we turned the corner, she and
lourdes perez were walking out the front of the club.   she signed my
journal, diane's cd cover, and then caught a cab.  its a strange and
humbling thing to see a woman you've looked up to for so long stand five
feet away from you and hail a cab on the edge of a quiet street.

and when i got home, i was filled with this feeling of being safe.  not
just because diane gave me a ride and i didn't walk the four blocks home
from the el with my keys clenched in my hand, not even for anything
really i can explain.  but the music fixed something inside me,
something i knew was/know is broken, but couldn't name.  i've been
walking around the past few weeks with this numbness, and fits of
incredible anger rolling around in me, either frozen, doing nothing, or
pushing myself to do more, more, more.  and when i got home last night,
it was okay to just be...

thanks everyone, and i look forward to meeting more of you tonight.

peace,
shelley

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 10:32:39 -0500
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sept 17, 98 issue, page 30:

star treatment, the food, the booze, ...what the stars of lilith fair
ask for backstage...compiled by anthony bozza.

indigo girls
please purchase food at a natural health-food store.  when available,
use organically grown vegetables and fruits.  no nabisco products.
6 fresh bagels (no raison or blueberry) with small cream cheese. no
kraft.
unwaxed, recycled cups, plates, bowls, no styrofoam.
1 teapot.
1 six-pack local microbrews
1 new york times
36 bath towels. must be prewashed.

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 11:56:29 -0400
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does anybody know why the girls don't want any nabisco or kraft products?
could these companies have anti-gay agendas or other negative
political/environmental issues?

kim & rhea

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eleanor roosevelt

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 09:20:37 pdt
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hi!  i am back again.  i have a question.  who and what is a
sufferagett?  i have heard lotz about it from the list.

:) debs

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                           the devil?
                             debs :)

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 11:49:42 -0400
reply-to:     tony & leigh ann <junebug@aeneas.net>
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someone posted a shorter version of this which i guess is printed
in a current rolling stone (?).  this is a longer & more detailed
list of what the girls ask for in their dressing room which was
posted several months ago by some kind listmember.  i know
several of you remember this, but if you're a relative newbie
you probably weren't here when this was first posted.  so here it is!


indigo girls performance rider (revised 2/97)

dressing room catering

to be placed in the indigo girls dressing room at 3:30pm.  please
purchase
foods at a natural/health foods store.  when available, please use
organically grown fresh vegetables and fruits.  no nabisco products.
clean
china and stainless steel cutlery will be provided along with clean
glasses.  unwaxed paper cups may be used as an alternative.

1 vegetable tray for sandwiches (for 2) to include the following:

fresh sliced carrots (lots)
1 seedless sliced cucumber
1 sliced tomato
sliced dill pickles
1 bowl humus
a natural herbal dip
please use organic vegetables when possible

1 large bag each:

non-fat potato chips
non-fat pretzels
non-fat corn chips
non-fat blue corn chips (regular may be substituted for those only)
zapp's potato chips (jalapeno or cajun flavor)(optional)

1 bag whole wheat pita bread
6 fresh bagels (plain, sesame or poppyseed only- no raisin, blueberry,
etc.
1 small tub of non-fat bean dip
1 small tub of light cream cheese
1 bowl fresh salsa
2 granny smith apples
2 red delicious apples
3 bananas
2 oranges
assorted herbal teas (caffeine free) and english breakfast caffeine tea
1 box medicinal "throat coat" tea
sliced lemon, sugar, honey, cream for tea
1 six pack diet ginger ale
1 six pack coke classic
1 six pack diet coke
24 1.5 liter bottles of spring water from local spring water company
(please don't bottle yourself)
3 23oz glass bottles perrier water
1 pint natural apple juice or fresh orange juice
1 bottle gatorade light (if you can't find it, get regular)
6 assorted hanson's or corrs natural sodas
6 bottles assorted fruit spritzer
36 bath towels (must be pre-washed)
1 water kettle to boil water only (without coffee smell)
fresh coffee and tea service
inwaxed recycled paper cups, plates, bowls- no styrofoam
cloth or recycled paper napkins
stainless steel cutlery
local newspaper and weekly entertainment magazine
new york times paper
6 local post cards with stamps

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 12:54:20 edt
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subject:      a great night of original music in buffalo....sunday sept 6.....8
              pm
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hi y'all.....

for the past several years i have celebrated my birthday (sept 10) a bit early
with a huge party at nietzsche's, 248 allen st, buffalo....one of the coolest
music clubs anywhere.....and the only place in the city that is supportive of
women singer-songwriters and bands fronted by women.....

this year's party will feature at least 12 acts and possibly more....all
people whose music has touched me in one way or another.....and there will be
a lot of jamming...

here's this year's lineup....

mark freeland.......a buffalo legend.....mark and i played one of the
strangest gigs ever a few years ago.....in a beverage store on a plywood stage
set over a stack of beer cases.....despite vastly different musical
backgrounds we found enough common ground to make some potent music
together....

ray lorigo and ann janish......formerly of cloudwall.....ann has one of the
purest voices you'll ever hear and ray is an interesting and inventive
guitarist....together they are unforgettable......(and i get to play guitar
with them)

paddy kilrain......an energetic performer with a billion dollar smile and an
upbeat attitude.....paddy has already released a wonderful cassette titled
"between ego and fear" (or between eggos and beer in her onstage description)
and a full-length cd called "sweet-talkin' jive"....she's always a crowd
favorite....

katie miller.......a great friend, and one of my very favorite writers....my
life and my music would not be the same if i hadn't met her.....she writes
from her heart and lays her soul bare, but she can be witty and entertaining
too.....i love adding guitar lines to her songs....

tim baldwin......i live for music.....it has been my refuge ever since i
realized as a teenager that i was "different"....my writing, singing, and
playing all come from deep within....and i love sharing it with friends....

pamela ryder......an unforgettable voice....amazing stage prescence...innocent
yet sexy enough to capture men and women alike.....her forthcoming cd "soul
ryder" is going to be awesome.....singing with her and backing her on guitar
and harmonica has been one of the highlights of my life.....

leon and the forklifts......a funky young band that i jammed with a couple of
months ago, featuring my friend and occasional accompanist fritz the kat on
harmonica and percussion.....

tina crapsi.......she's italian.....she's from buffalo.....and she's got an
attitude, but she's not just another ani clone......her music is still
evolving, and her second release should be vastly different from last year's
cassette "now that i've got your attention"......

lea (prentiss)......just lea.....a gifted songwriter with a haunting
voice.....the rapport between us was instantaneous......i love adding guitar
lines to her songs, and she adds wonderful backing vocals to some of my
songs....

rose bond......rose has a pure appalachian voice and writes moving songs in
that tradition......she also does a wonderful cover of bill staines'
"sueno".....

rhubarb.......one of the coolest jam bands around......when we get together
there's no telling where the music might go.....

russian hands and roman fingers......ron "russian hands" seliger's haunting
baritone and reverb-drenched guitar are offset by lynnette "roman fingers"
damico's airy flute lines.....very cool and unique.....

i'm still awaiting word from a few other expected guests, so this may not be
the full lineup....if you'd like to experience the same type of musical
cameraderie that the girls brought to lilith check us out.......

peace y'all.....
tim

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 13:06:38 -0400
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here are a couple of suffragette articles i haven't seen mentioned on the
list yet:

1) the new york citysearch site has an article on the roseland ballroom,
which has a link to a brief sst article:
newyork.citysearch.com/e/e/nycny/0012/21/75/cs1.html

and that article has a link to an interview with amy:
newyork.citysearch.com/e/e/nycny/0011/94/36/


2) for you philadelphia area listees, the philadelphia weekly has a nice
article about the sst in today's issue, and there's a great picture of the
girls too (one from the curve magazine shoot).  it's also online at:
www.phillyweekly.com/weekly98/ae/preview.html


hope to see lots of you in cincinnati, philly & new york!

steph

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debs:
the only thing i know for sure about suffragette is that it's an older term
used to identify people who were fighting for women to have the right to vote.
hope that helps, someone!

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hey everyone,

i'm on a word a day list.  this was today's message, of interest to some
of you, i'm sure.

be well,
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merriam-webster's word of the day for august 26 is:

suffrage   \suff-rij\   (noun)
          1 : a vote given in deciding a controverted question or in
          the choice of a person for an office or trust
        *2 : the right of voting : franchise; also : the exercise of
          such right

example sentence:
          the u.s. struggle for women's suffrage ended on august 26,
          1920 when the 19th amendment, which granted women the right
          to vote, was added to the constitution.

did you know?
          why would a 17th-century writer warn people that a chapel
          was only for "private or secret suffrages"? because since
          the 14th century, "suffrage" has been used to mean "prayer"
          (especially a prayer requesting divine help or
          intercession). so how did "suffrage" come to mean "a vote"
          or "the right to vote"? to answer that, we must look to the
          word's latin ancestor, "suffragium," which can be translated
          as "vote," "support," or "prayer." that term produced
          descendants in a number of languages, and english picked up
          its senses of "suffrage" from two different places. we took
          the "prayer" sense from a middle french "suffragium"
          offspring that emphasized the word's spiritual aspects, and
          we elected to adopt the "voting" senses directly from the
          original latin.

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in a message dated 8/26/98 11:51:11 am central daylight time,
listserv@netspace.org writes:

<< the idea is great.  but musically,
i give it a five.  i mean the whole crowd was an ig crowd and some of the
music was like thrasher music and way too loud and electric.  the crowd was
very polite but seemed pretty bored through the first half of the set.

i dunno--bottom line--the show is not for everyone.  many loved it.  i did
not.  great to see the girls so happy and just to see them in general, but
there was so much potential for more. >>

hey everyone,

i agree whole heartedly with this statement which greg wrote.  he hit it right
on the head.  i think the show would have been better if they did the songs
they were doing in sound check.  could you imagine the way the crowd would
have responded if they played "cannonball" for an encore?!   the energy would
have blown the dome right off of park west onto clark.  my personal favorite
of tuesday's show was when they did luscious jackson's under your skin.....i
never would have thought i would ever see emily and amy singing lj songs.

also, here's a bit of "line gossip" i heard the got me really, really
excited.....

i heard a few people in line saying that the read that the session gals tried
to get liz phair to perform.......wouldn't that be great?!!!!   ig,1/3 of
luscious jackson (yes, vivian left the band), and liz phair----on one
stage!!!! incredible.....ahhh, i man could dream.

sorry, i didn't meet any of the listees before the show.  i saw the "nigc"
written in orange chalk on armitage but i felt kind of intimidated.   all you
guys already seemed like you had a "click" going.  not in a bad way though.  i
don't know, i guess i'm just shy.

well, maybe i'll walk up to you group for tonight's show.


brian

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 11:40:48 -0700
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amy wrote:

> p.p.s. after never really being that interested in luscious jackson
> (except to take longing looks at drummer kate when i happen to see
pics),
> i finally purchased a cd of theirs, "natural ingredients". may i
just say,
> this album is phat. wait, did one of your fellow intimate strangers
just
> use the word "phat" in a sentence? indeed i did. check it out.

yes, definitely!  and if you thought amy (ray) had a sexy voice, just
wait till you hear gabby...

lori ann (happy happy that she can rap with jill on "find your mind")


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hey:

something great and unexpected happened today!  i work at southern progress
corp in bham, al....we publish southern living mags as well as some
others....in my work today, i ran across a one-page spread on the flying
biscuit!  it has three pics and a little write-up....i haven't done lots of
research on it to see if it's in all issues because i was so excited when i
found it i came straight here....from what i can tell now, it is only in the
atlanta issues....maybe georgia as well, but i know metro atlanta.  it has a
pick of owner delia champion.  it's cool because i was talking to people at
work about it just this morning since i went for the first time this past
weekend and then there i found a current article on it!  no mention of emily's
help, but that's cool.

amanda

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 16:22:03 edt
reply-to:     gitroop@aol.com
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just wanted to comment on how friggin cool power of two was at the tues night
sufferagette... was really upbeat and rocking...i have never heard that
version before... i think emily was enjoying it herself!!!

thats right however, the show isnt for everyone... it was wonderful, but
personally, i like indigo girls shows a bit more... just depends... but it was
really nice to see the girls having such a wonderful time... just out there
collaborating with em all!  smiles all night long...

good day,
trooper....who wishes cute lil' sulli woulda got out there and jammed too!!!
hoo well....

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 17:31:06 edt
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i wish to thank all of you who answered my request for help with ig songs
yesterday.  i received a lot of valuable information.  but... not one of you
e-mailed me amy or emily, selfish!  :)  seriously, this is a great thing and
people are so friendly.  i wish i could e-mail myself to all of you to meet
you all.  thanks, you've been a comfort!

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 20:54:29 edt
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if anyone in the nyc area is still looking for the red sys remix, there's at
least 1 copy at joe's cds on st. mark's place between second and third
avenues. they're charging $6.99 for it.


--erica

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 20:09:47 -0500
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karrie wrote:

> ok, i am going to toss in my two cents about the rude humans....
>
> it seemed to me that these people were not at the show because they
> are
> ig fans, but rather that they were there because it "was the cool
> place"
> to be....basically it was bandwagoners and the people who go because
> it
> is like a giant gathering of lesbian women, so they feel that, as
> lesbians, they should attend as well.
>
> i have had many a run in with this type of person and most of you
> probably have as well, be it in concerts or in everyday life. these
> are
> the individuals who show up to the concert, they are apathetic as to
> where they stand (or sit) as long as they have beer readily available,
>
> and spend a lot of the evening chatting with their friends and
> applauding when everyone else does.  they occasionally sing if
> "galileo"
> or "least complicated" is played, because they *do* know those words,
> and by mid-set, they are ripped enough to tell amy how much they love
> her.  they are the full and total reason that you may think to
> yourself
> "there should be a test that you have to take in order to purchase
> concert tickets.."
>
> for example, the girl who screamed "fuck her....i don't even know
> her.."
> in regard to jane siberry,  had already cemented herself in my brain
> as
> a complete and total moron when she said outside in line:
>
> "i hope they sing midnight train to georgia..that is my favorite
> indigo
> girls song off of 12,000 curfews."
>
> yes folks, that's right.  she said twelve thousand, and had no
> realization whatsoever that it is a gladys knight and the pips song.
> she was also the same person to whom emily snapped "maybe!" when she
> screamed she wanted to hear mttg.  why was she there?  because she
> loves
> the music and the girls, because she went with her friends and saw it
> as
> a way to get drunk, or because she felt that she "had" to go even
> though
> she may not know one damn thing about the girls and their music and
> what
> makes them tick?
>
> there were others too, the drunk people who just showed up with 5 or 6
>
> friends, who said things like "the red-haired one is hot" and "which
> one
> is sara lee?" and those who saw it as a chance to get loaded and
> bullshit with one another while ignoring the presence of 9 women on
> the
> stage.
>
> from my expericence, it is going to be like this at every show,
> because
> these people are not going as ig fans, but as people who have nothing
> else to do and see it as a chance to go out with their friends to the
> bar.  there is no appreciation of the music there.  none whatsoever.
>
> just my $.02.  flame at will, but do so privately!!!!!!!!
>
> karrie
>

i guess the huge mystery to me is why they pay to come when they could
bullshit with their friends at a bar somewhere else and not irritate the
hell out of everyone else ~ i realize they don't care if they do
irritate everyone else, but paying to get into the place to do it is
really pretty strange...and i for one would not want to pay to have to
listen to them, so whomever said the girls might not want to do these
tours with that going on has a point...[ann]

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 11:10:45 +1000
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hey folks,

here is the article from the new york citysearch site that
stephanie mentioned.  you can find it on the web at:
http://209.67.166.57/e/e/nycny/0012/21/75/

cheers,
sherlyn

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suffragette sessions

location:   roseland ballroom
address:   239 w. 52nd street
new york , 10019
cross street:   between eighth avenue and broadway.
hours:   sep 3 thu 7:00pm

tickets go on sale friday, july 31 at 12pm.

an all-girl, all-star jam session featuring the indigo girls,
lisa germano, jane siberry, gail ann dorsey, lourdes perez,
and heart's ann wilson, luscious jackson's kate schellenbach,
mecca normal's jean smith, come's thalia zedek, and josephine
wiggs of the breeders.

lisa germano speaks to the manic-depressive teen inside of us
all, particularly we girls. but she ain't missed-the-bus-for-
lilith fair type, no way. what sets her apart is her
straightforward lyrics--no messing about with metaphors about
drowning and darkness and other mystical shit, she comes right
out and says she's miserable because her man dissed her and
looking at victoria's secret catalogues makes her feel fat.
germano's music often goes floating down denial: most of it
sounds curiously happy. she mixes middle eastern beats, music
boxes, violins, slide whistles, harmoniums, tap-dancing feet,
and who knows what else into something truly original. live,
she may only accompany herself on piano or a single guitar,
but her songs remain strong and her remarkable presence takes
over.--lissa townsend rodgers

amy ray and emily saliers have combined declaiming harmonies
and aggressive acoustic guitars to sell hundreds of thousands
of records. the girls continue to explore the studio on their
new album "shaming of the sun" (epic). despite charting new
territory, the indigos remain true to their firm folk and
women's-music roots. they've also managed to garner pop grammy
accolades. the indigo girls have gone from atlanta
coffeehouses to playing madison square garden without selling
out--a rare accomplishment. check out the interview with the
girls.--kerry burke

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i love that song!!

"whenever i'm alone with you, you make me feel like i am free again...."

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 21:49:57 edt
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hey k.f.

i just bought a new car last night and had a brief "indigo moment".  the
salesman was giving his speel about purchasing rustproofing, a teflon sealant
and a fabric protecterant.  as he ran through the benefits of the fabric
protecterant, he cautioned that it wouldn't cover various things like .......,
indigo,....... etc. and i smiled and thought to myself, "if i had indigos in
my car, i certainly wouldn't want to get rid of them!" :) needless to say i
didn't go for the fabric protector.

take care,

~leslie

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  (by grace my sight grows stronger, grows stronger)" emily saliers aka email

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 21:58:48 -0500
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hey all-

no need to bum anyone out, but i have a friend who recently lost her son
to suicide, and i need some witty and cynical jokes to cheer her up.
nothing of massive filth mind you, but any that may poke fun at
organized religion, the male specie (no offense to anyone), or any other
witticisms would be deeply appreciated.  she is at that point where i
know she is going to be ok, but i still want to make her laugh through
the daily tears of her loss.

any help is appreciated.  please mail me privately-

karrie
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it seems that no one mentioned this song as a love song or a break up song.  i
consider it both.  my heart is like an ice cube in the sun when i hear this
one.  natalie merchant's "beloved wife."  it has to rank up there.  what do
you think,yes you?

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hey folks,

here is the article that stephanie mentioned from the
philadelphia weekly.  you can find it on the web at:
http://www.phillyweekly.com/weekly98/ae/preview.html

cheers,
sherlyn

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p r e v i e w   m u s i c

suffragette city

the indigos and other girls unite for an all-star jam.

by steve baltin

suffragette sessions
wed., sept. 2, 8 p.m.
tickets $22
electric factory
7th & willow streets, phila.
215.336.2000.

remember the bygone era of the "supergroup"? where high-caliber
musicians joined forces -- like eric clapton with steve winwood
(for blind faith)? or how about the seemingly lost art of
"jamming," which, with the exception of the infrequent all-star
benefit concert, has virtually gone the way of the dinosaur and
the edsel?

back in the day, when peace and love were the mainstays of the
music scene, musicians -- led by the likes of the grateful dead
in the rock world -- would join each other onstage and play
together for hours at a time. the indigo girls recall that time
of harmony, both figuratively and literally; in fact, amy ray
and emily saliers remember that era so fondly that they've
decided to do their part to resurrect both jamming and the
supergroup with one brief 11-city tour.

dubbed the suffragette sessions, the tour has a festival vibe,
with several big-name acts (the indigo girls, luscious
jackson's kate schellenbach) and cult heroines (jane siberry
and come's guitarist/vocalist thalia zedek) sharing a stage.
the difference between the suffragette tour and something like
lollapalooza or lilith is that the various women on this bill
literally share the stage, attempting to function as a cohesive
band.

"i'm thrilled to work in this capacity with the indigos and all
the other women involved," says siberry. "i hope to play guitar
and keyboards. i'm a good sidewoman, but i rarely get to
exercise that part." for each performer in the lineup, a show
this different from their normal solo, headlining or opening
slots offers a variety of incentives to participate -- from
camaraderie to exposure.

"i can play some background stuff, but they've asked me to be
me and to play my songs as well," says lisa germano. "i'm
really excited about it." germano is a critically hailed artist
who has yet to break through sales-wise, making her one of the
acts who stands to gain the most from a tour like this.

the genesis for the suffragette tour came about, not
surprisingly, from ray and saliers' well-documented penchant
for playing with other musicians. this is something that's been
in the works for years. "five years ago, we were on stage with
siouxsie sioux and ferron," says saliers. "picture an acoustic
band, the ultimate goth queen and a brilliant folk singer
covering billie holiday, the creatures' 'something wicked this
way comes' and our [own] 'closer to fine.'

"on the bus after the shows," she continues, "we started talking
about assembling a tour of musicians playing collectively.
suffragette sessions is that tour, and it includes elements of
latin music, spoken word, punk, folk, poetry, sweat, cacophony,
1-3-5 and general mayhem."

saliers is not boasting when she describes the versatility of
the lineup she and ray have assembled for the 11 dates. in
addition to the indigos, schellenbach, siberry and zedek;
singer/bassist gail ann dorsey (who has played with bowie and
tears for fears), singer/guitarist lourdes perez, mecca normal's
jean smith, the breeders' josephine wiggs and musician
extraordinaire germano will be in the band.

ray calls the suffragette sessions tour "a socialist experiment
in rock 'n' roll." perhaps because of the loose vibe of the tour
founders, the performers are carrying on that attitude. "i just
want it to connect," says germano. "i hope my songs work and
that i can do justice to these other people's songs."

the shows are in venues slightly bigger than nightclubs --
though the indigo girls usually headline bigger places on their
own -- and are limited to just 11 cities. this validates ray's
claim that this sojourn is more about creative possibilities
than the potential to become a cash cow.

ray says, "while alliances in the music industry are being made
in the name of profit, the aim of the sst tour is to establish
a collective that encourages cross-pollination between artists
and musical genres in the name of creativity."

if the indigo girls and their co-conspirators succeed in
bringing creativity and camaraderie back to contemporary music,
fans could be the ones who benefit the most. as music junkies,
we've all thought about what it would be like to see our
favorite artists side by side on a stage; die-hard music-lovers
are as into "rotisserie" leagues as much as any fantasy
footballer.

who among us wouldn't sell his soul to go back in time and see
miles and coltrane jamming? today -- with the interference of
record companies, the level of competition for radio and
mtv-play and the need to preserve the "mystique" of bands --
two such giants (who used to play together regularly) would
likely appear only onstage together as a warm-up for a
pay-per-view wrestling event.

suffragette sessions may not lead to one day seeing bono and
madonna exchanging smiles as they take turns on the verses of
"pride (in the name of love)," or to bruce springsteen playing
guitar for smashing pumpkins, but it will be awfully cool to
see jane siberry and lisa germano in the same band, if only for
a night.


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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 12:12:22 +1000
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hey folks,

this was sent to the ecto mailing list... i don't
*think* it's serious but i guess you never know...

:)
sherlyn
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---------- forwarded message ----------
date: wed, 26 aug 1998 20:43:46 edt
from: penta5@aol.com
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subject: lilith tour touche

hello all,
               after all te talk about lf, i thought that this covered a lot
of ground. as well as not a few giggles. those of you that may take offense of
this, (you know who you are), please point your flamethrowers at
http://www.theonion.com.
regards,
anna

lilith fair performers, attendees achieve largest-ever synchronized
ovulation


salt lake city, ut--in what is believed to be the largest group ovulation in
history, more than 20,000 lilith fair performers and attendees
simultaneously released ova into their uteruses tuesday.

      the collective egg-release, which took place at 11:24 p.m. mst, capped
off a five-hour concert featuring such nurturing, supportive female artists
as paula cole, shawn colvin, natalie merchant, and lilith fair founder sarah
mclachlan.

      "this mass ovulation is a celebration of our fertility. it's a
celebration of our sisterhood," said mclachlan, her uterine wall lined with
nutrient-rich blood. "by releasing these eggs, we recognize and honor our
collective femininity."

      singer joan osborne, who joined mclachlan in a duet of the mclachlan
hit "sweet surrender" following the historic ovulation, called the
experience "the most affirming of my life."

      "the energy radiated by everyone on stage and in the crowd was
exhilarating. as a woman, i felt totally empowered," said osborne, whose
1997 song "one of us" spent six weeks at the top of the charts. "my
fallopian tubes are glowing."

      according to mclachlan, the synchronized ovulation, sponsored by
volkswagen, starbucks and bioré pore cleansing strips, was successful
because of the "incredibly supportive atmosphere" of the concert.

      "everyone at the show was surrounded by other women who understand
what they go through on a daily basis in this society," mclachlan said.
"knowing you have that kind of strong support system around you makes it
that much easier to ovulate."


      among the other artists who participated in the historic egg-release:
suzanne vega, amy ray and
emily saliers of the indigo girls, sheryl crow, meredith brooks, erykah badu
and jewel.

      "to me, this is what lilith fair all about," saliers said. "to be able
to get up on that stage and imbed an ovum in your uterus in front of 20,000
screaming, fertile fans who are doing the same thing, well, that's just the
ultimate."

      "i've never been around so many people who share my interest in
women's issues and social justice," jewel said. "it makes me want to ride my
horse bareback through a forest stream."

      fans were equally excited.

      "without a doubt, that was the best concert i've ever been to," said
rebecca roth of ogden, ut, wearing her $27 "i ovulated at lilith fair"
souvenir t-shirt. "the indigo girls and sheryl crow and natalie merchant
were all so amazing. and sarah [mclachlan] looked beautiful. i have to get
that skirt she was wearing."

      "i am going to be so sad when i menstruate my egg," fellow concertgoer
angela hiller of provo, ut, said. "i totally wish i could keep it inside me
forever as a reminder of this special day."

      the lilith fair tour concludes aug. 31 in vancouver, british columbia.

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 14:18:59 -0700
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i'm not much of a des'ree fan or anything, but i have to
admit...."kissing you" is probably the most heart felt love song not
written by the indigo girls.

try falling in love with someone to that song...and i garantee no
other (with the indigo girls being the exception) can match up.

the greatest ig love song would have to be....hmmmmm
you know what there are too many
1.least complicated(for 1st lesbian relationship)
2.loves recovery
3.leeds

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no ig content sorry- looking for a tape of game three lastnight wnba
phoenix vs cleveland
have many ig goodies i could give in trade.

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 20:30:37 pdt
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the wonderful amy v. wrote:
>there was a _whole lot_ of pushing. i thought jill
>was going to sock someone...

yeah, well, i thought i was too.  let's just say that friends you make
in line are not friends.  ha.  this 35+ woman was being sooo nice to us,
so when i left for the bathroom, i asked her to hold my spot along the
(front row) wall.  she said sure, that her (chrissy hynde lookalike)
girlfriend would stand in my spot.  great.  so upon returning, i try to
go back into my spot, and she's all, "hey, why don't you stand on the
*other* side of me, so you can be by your friends..." and finagles it so
that her girlfriend is still in the front row, and i am then elbowed out
of a spot.  marivel looks at me like, "what the hell is going on here?"
and amy informs me that the women had planned to "wait until [someone]
goes to the bathroom, and then steal their spot." !
"oh, that's real nice of you-- wait until they go to the bathroom and
then steal their spot, eh?!" i bellowed at my (supposedly mature)
elders, and then shoved them with all of my 21-year-old
snot-nosed-gutter-punk might (which isn't a whole lot normally, but get
me agitated...)and wedged pseudo chrissy out of her spot and myself back
in.  oy vey.  well, that didn't stop the two of them from trying to jam
her in there all night anyways.  i spent 4 hours wedged up against
marivel's roommate (sweet girl, couldn't've been smashed against anyone
nicer), trying to stay standing against this immense force being exerted
by these yucky, ugly, sweaty dykes.  if i'd taken a step back, the
entire front row to the right of me would've fallen down like a row of
indigo-obsessed dominoes.  there's bruises and broken blood vessels all
under my arms and triceps due to my clinging to the wall for dear life.
i considered shouting out, "i'm breaking ribs here for ya, ladies!" to
the stage.  but thought better of it.  didn't want marivel to pretend
she didn't know me.
oh yes, can't forget how i also got to feel the lovebirds next to me
grope each other for hours.  i would think it goes without saying, but
when standing hipbone-to-hipbone with someone, do *not* grope your
significant other. oh ick.
i think that suffragette sessions manners go back to what you were
taught in kindergarten:
get in line.  don't shove. the good kids line up early and get there
first.  the kids who dawdle and get in line late will get there last, so
don't mess with the good kids. keep your hands to yourself.  don't run,
we're all going to the same place anyways. if someone on stage has their
mouth open, yours should be closed.  watch, listen, and learn. don't
interrupt. use indoor voices. and say thank you.

that being said, it was so fun to sit under the marquee with marivel,
jami, amy, marivel's roommate, and amy's friend (mindy?).  i was drawing
a bunch of weird stares when i walked down the line of people waiting to
get inside, asking "anyone here from the list? anyone? anyone?"  so
thankful that amy smiled and raised her hand :) i'm guessing that the
other line-waiters were talking about us or something, because this
woman traversed downt the line to our blanket, like she was a delegate
from normalcy or something, and asked, "are you the groupies?"  how
bizarre.  this woman actually asked, "so, what, do you just hose off in
the sewers or something?"
my god.  oh hells yeah... hey guys, wait a sec, i'm gonna run to that
sewer grate and freshen up...
hearing marivel tell the sulli beverage story again and again and again
and... was funny as hell.  as was prying open the front display case to
snag the big ig poster displayed in it.  hee.
anyways, we lined up (some of us longer than others, ahem, marivel and
jami), we got in, we did the bouncy-jumping-thing.  emily was enjoying
that, the bopping front row during power of two. sulli was videotaping
the concert, and filmed us, i swear.
great fun.  this show was 3 songs longer than the cleveland show... i
think they liked us. well, everyone but amy maybe. she wouldn't look at
us.  heh.  she was looking pretty weary to the bones; they've gotta stop
touring nonstop like this.  having done back-to-back concerts, i know
it's tiring-- and i'm just in the audience!  can't imagine the stamina
it takes to muster up the energy like that.
jane was the host for the evening, and did a fine job of twisting around
everyone's names ;) so, wait, that's thalia zedek, from the crumbs,
right? hee.  cute as hell. and that was a great idea to do a finale
where everyone sang their favorite line of the evening.
("aaaaaaaammmmmmm-bition" says jean, who was in a much better mood than
when last i saw her.  i didn't get a chance to blow her a kiss like i
was planning. but i'm getting quite good at matching her in them
stare-down competitions).
let me urge you once again, to go go go see this show.
can i crab about one more thing before i go?
please remember: everyone is special.  for two shows now, i have watched
throngs of fans wait and wait and breathe tour-bus exhaust and wait some
more, and then screeeeeeaaaaaammmmm when amy or emily appear.  yet they
don't say *anything* to the other musicians who are right there in front
of them.  in detroit, i watched lisa germano sit in front of a group of
fans and be wholly ignored.  by everyone.  it's ridiculous.  i have had
the funniest chats with lisa, gail ann, thalia, and rose polenzani
(special guest at the detroit show--- man, she kicks my ass) simply
because they were just, uh, *there*.  and, hell, nobody else was
occupying their time, so i did.  i mean, that's fine, all the more for
me, i'm thinking.  but it's damn rude.  amy and emily have no more
talent, spark, or whatever-else-it-is-that-makes-a-star-a-star than the
rest of the women on the tour.  these are all obviously accomplished
musicians in their genre.  amy and emily have simply been *deified*
because they are better-known. it's just very frustrating to have
audiences that either: a)talk all through the other acts' performances,
or b)*seem* like they're real appreciative and all during the show and
then *ignore* the musician when they're sitting five feet in front of
them.  what can i say?  stupid screechy blindly-devoted fans who only
have eyes for amy ray and emily saliers piss me off.  these other women
rock so hard, and they're not being appreciated for being the kick-ass
musicians that they are.

hmph.
jill

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date:         wed, 26 aug 1998 20:44:17 pdt
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subject:      kate schellenbach!!!
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amy v sayeth:
> kate is great!

yea, verily i say unto you, mine indigo-lovers, kate is most certainly
great;
whereupon she did rocketh mine soul;
whereupon she did kicketh mine butt;
whereuopn she did maketh me shake my groove thing;
whereupon she is possessing of the most beauteous visage (and niiiiice
bushy armpits, carol! awwww yeah!) that i have seen grace a stage in
many a day.

verily, verily i say unto you (and her, i know she heard me when i
squeaked in delight) "kate is great!"

wowza.
jill, who wants you all to know that jami has a purty tat, marivel has
special water, and amy is adorable! woo hooooo, it was a meeting of the
youth o' the list :) :)  :)

who, me, get into a fight?  nah, i would *never* do that.  *shove*
someone to maintain my i-can-see-kate-the-great!-from-here!!! spot?  oh,
gracious me!

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hi everyone! my name is john and i'm new to the list. just saying "hi."  i
hope to talk to ya'll soon. bye!!

---john

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>---jess lopez <dopeylopey@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> anyone happen to know the chords for "gone again?"
>
>hey y'all.  i figured out the chords for gone again.  here they
are...
>
>verses:
>g d(you might want to play 200232 instead of just a plain d) c 020010
>am d(or 200232 or x57575)
>
>chorus:
>em g c 020010 am d(or 200232 or x57575)
>
>ok, well that's basically it.  hope this helps y'all out.  erin aka
>jen :)
>
>
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karrie wrote:
>these people were not at the show because they are
>ig fans, but rather that they were there because it...
>is a giant gathering of lesbian women, so they feel that, as
>lesbians, they should attend as well.

honestly, i'd have to say that, upon viewing the line of folks waiting
to get into the club, this *was* the case.  sadly, there is very little
cohesion and/or community as far as the lesbian community in cleveland
goes.  so they go to things like this to maybe feel not so alone.  just
one of the many ways in which cleveland tends to suck.

jill


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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 00:01:21 edt
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well, i know kraft is openly anti-gays, but i don't know if that's the indigo
girls' reason for not wanting their products, and i have no idea about
nabisco.

love,
alissa

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in a message dated 8/26/98 12:57:44 pm eastern daylight time,
junebug@aeneas.net writes:

<< 6 local post cards with stamps >>

so they have cards in their  dressing room!  so where is my "hi-from-the road-
wish-you-tickets" card?

babs

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in a message dated 8/26/98 11:32:12 pm eastern daylight time,
jillyc@hotmail.com writes:

<< i mean, that's fine, all the more for
me, i'm thinking.  but it's damn rude.  amy and emily have no more
talent, spark, or whatever-else-it-is-that-makes-a-star-a-star than the
rest of the women on the tour.  these are all obviously accomplished
musicians in their genre.  amy and emily have simply been *deified*
because they are better-known. it's just very frustrating to have
audiences that either: a)talk all through the other acts' performances,
or b)*seem* like they're real appreciative and all during the show and
then *ignore* the musician when they're sitting five feet in front of
them.  what can i say?  >>


jill!

may i just say you hit the nail on the head!  if a&e did not think anything of
these other women, they would haven't asked them to join in the tour.  i am
taking notes form all theses posts and plan on being an a+++++ member of the
last ss show audience in nyc nest week!  woo hoo!

i am so excited!  but i am worried about how the girls are doing with al this
crazy touring ... can someone say vacation?

babs

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in a message dated 98-08-27 00:18:49 edt, you write:

<< and i have no idea about
nabisco.
  >>

could it be the philip morris connection ?
doesn't the tobacco giant own rjr nabi or visa versa ?

:)
claire

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anyone up for meeting after the show next week?


--erica

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so i'm totally captivated by this woman... (ohmigosh her eyes are so
beautiful, just look at em)
was surfing around on the net and found these:

http://www.matador.recs.com/bands/come/puncture.html
(an interview with thalia from a couple years back... gives some
interesting background info and bio stuff)

http://www.matador.recs.com/bands/samples.html
(a real audio recording of come's song hurricane... susan b. marine,
check them out, methinks this is up yer riot grrl alley, and hey,
they're from boston!) definitely listen to them... i'm told their sound
varies by album, that their most recent two are the most
listener-friendly.  lots of intense, emotionally fraught lyrics on top
of swirling, complicated guitar and instrumentals. sounds like the
indigo girls-meets-nine inch nails.  or something like that.  listen to
it, this could be the one group that both folkie-loving-you and your
goth-loving punkster child/sibling/sig. other could agree on.

jean smith's band mecca normal is also on matador records, and their
songs medieval man and who shot elvis? are also on the soundbyte page,
if anyone wants to hear them without that frightening vulcan mind meld
stare.

jilly ("i am a punk rocker, i am, i am darn it!")


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hey everyone,

i found this on the newsgroup... i have no affiliation with
this person whatsoever but i know this is always a hot item
so i thought i'd forward it on... note this person is
apparently in the netherlands...

-sherlyn

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hi fellow indigo fans!

i cannot afford to have this original rarity locked up in my collection:

indigo girls: strange fire.
              indigo records lmmii, us 1987.+inner sleeve.
              this is a very nice copy, conservatory graded at vg+/vg+.
              minimum bid: usd 100.

bids accepted until sept. 2., p&p at cost.


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so---i have heard from four people...myself included in those four...about a
minneapolis list meet...are really none of you going to be in minnesota for
this one???  sheeesh!!  and you call yourself obsessed...

anyway--if there are any stragglers out there who haven't contacted me...or
forgotten...or didn't know you were actually going to be in minnesota
until...now..well, let me know and we'll set something up....otherwise just
come find me at first avenue...on first avenue...(wonder where they got there
name :) ) and i will be the first one in line...well, jules will be there with
me...so, you might find us nose to nose stairing through the windowed
doors....anyway, come up and say hi!  and unlike cleveland--we're all nuts
here in minneapolis, so, you can just go up and down the line and call for us
and nobody will really mind...really, i promise...otherwise--if you get there
really early and there is no line we will be at a nearby bar--within visual
distance of the doors...oh...and i've heard some nasty rumors of rain...so, if
that's the case i will be the short one in the army green rain suit...pants,
jacket and my lil' smokey the bear hat...

peace,
kara.

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hey indigo spice,
welcome to the list!
pull up a chair, make yourself comfortable...

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hey everyone,
  i have an extra set of tickets for the milwaukee show if anyone is
interested, i know, i know...talk about last minute.

   just thought i'd ask since i can't go :-(

mjg

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hi there everybody,

well, it's 3:50am cst, and i am still up, thinking about tonight's
concert at park west.  the energy around this show was "spooky" and
relaxed.  amy described us as being a "listening crowd" and that "each
night the audiences get better and better"--we cheered on that one.

here's the setlist:
under your skin - amy, emily, jane, and thalia on vocals
cimarron
reptile - lisa germano w/ thalia on clarinet
way below the radio - lisa germano
sister - amy
roll the dice
omen - rose polanzski(sp?)
flirtin' is a flo thang - jane siberry
pullin' a cloud - gail ann dorsey
in canada - jean smith (poem)
chisel - amy & jane on vocals
go, go, go - amy
tengo la vida - lourdes perez
vestigios - lourdes
pale light - thalia zedek
jolene - kelly logan (sp?)
soon 2 be nothing - emily
power of deux - amy & emily & the gang

encore:
love is everything - jane siberry
cannonball
midnight train to georgia - gail & co.

what can i say?  the crowd tonight was better from my perspective.  a
couple of times i heard people shout out requests between songs.  we
loved that rousing power of two version--amy sidled up to emily during
the second verse and smiled.  of course, we sang along and
danced...before the bridge began, amy and emily looked at each other
like "you go" "no, you"...finally, amy started in, and emily chimed in
her melody with her 600+ backup singers.

really, everyone was amazing...buffalo daughter treated us with a couple
of their old songs which had more acoustic, less electronica, and you
could understand a little more of the lyrics.  dug that strobe light
thing--too bad the crowd wasn't dancing; it was too snug to do more than
breathe.

shelley told me afterwards that amy's 'sister' just struck her hard.  i
dragged out the lyrics from my bag, courtesy of memememi, and followed
along.  amy's blue-grey eyes were just piercingly intense.  wow.

flirting is a flo thang - hahaha...what a laugh!  it was fun, and an
incomplete song by the "i-flirt-with-men,i-flirt-with-women,
i-flirt-with-the-old,i-flirt-with  the-children,rocks,trees" ms. siberry
that was improvised by the whole cast including vocals by jane, amy
jamming, gail, jean, thalia, et al.  seems like jane becomes a
blubbering idiot (it's endearing) whenever her speaking voice connects
with the mike.  her "love is everything" was again, house-silencing.

again, i enjoyed lisa germano and also lourdes perez--lisa's quiet,
stirring style speaks to all souls, and lourdes reminds me of the
spaniard in my blood....tengo la vida con las manos, es la consequencia
de estar mujer, tengo la vida con las manos, es la consequencia de estar
[human]...i have life with my hands, as a consequence of being a
woman,...as a consequence of being human.

met more listees before and after the concert--julie & her friend;
monique, karen, sandy, kristi, and greg.  it was quite a fun coincidence
when i met shelley in line the night before.  she is very cool.  thanks
for letting me hang with you, shell!

hmph...i almost forgot to mention that after the concert was over, i was
waiting to receive a guitar pic, and someone standing next to me pointed
out the setlists taped to the floor.  so i hopped up, crawled along my
belly (how low can you go?), and tore them off the floor and handed one
to that woman and kept one for myself.  sulli threw guitar pics on the
floor in back of us, and i scrambled to get one.  a couple of the
musicians brought several red roses onstage, and sulli handed them out.

we had met a new friend, jen, while standing in line, and afterwards we
waited around the tour buses to see if we could catch a glimpse of amy,
emily, and friends.  the sound truck pulled out, then the ryder.  and,
lourdes and rose came out the front, and emily came out the side.  this
time, instead of getting another autograph, i reached out to shake her
hand, and she smiled and shook mine.  wonderful!  jean smith then came
and handed out more flowers.  amy, about 5'9", walked out, waved, and
thanked us.

we turned around to walk back to our cars, and someone said, "there she
is!" and emily was arranging something at the back of the bus.  we could
see her through the window.  i just cracked up laughing, as she peered
out wide-eyed smiling, and waves were exchanged.

add to, if you wish, or flame as desired...charbroiled or fried.

peace out,
diane wong =)

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 03:58:10 pdt
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it's rose polenzani--i even got her autograph after the show, and i
still mispelled it in previous post.  i also got lourdes to sign my
journal.  she's cool, even asked me my name and everything! -dw

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 08:15:49 -0400
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hi
that article about the lf is definitely not a real deal, i went to the webpage that
it came from, and read one or two of the other stories, and you see that all of
those stories are a sad attempt at humor.  i, personally, don't find it very funny.

lor

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hey everyone --

before i looked closely, i could tell where this article came from.  it is not
a legit story.  it's from the onion, a really obnoxious, politically incorrect
-- yet extremely funny paper printed in madison wi.  they're on the web at
www.theonion.com.  their movie & music reviews are very funny, too.

peace,
lisa j.

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hey y'all!

i don't have time for a long review as i must drive back to school today,
but the show rocked.  it absolutly rocked!  i didn't think i'd like it
nearly as much as i did (based on the other reviews), but i loved the wide
range of styles, musicians, and songs.  some highlights:

po2- i loved the expiramental style.  it was rockin' and it got the
audience excited.

cannonball- yeah!  i was so excited when i heard the opening chords during
the encore!

midnight train to georgia- my first time hearing this at a show!  all i
can say to the rude cleveland fan is "ha ha!  we got it and we were
polite!"

jane sibery's flirting thing - it was hilarious...especially when she
flirted with amy!

anyway, on the whole, the crowd was polite, there were a few people who
thought they were going to an ig show, and complained as they were
leaving.  and there were a few ig song requests (that were ignored).  but
on the whole, everyone was "good" and the suffragettes seemed to
apperciate that.  we'll see how the cincy fans are on sunday...

and i enjoyed meeting list people...shelley, greg, kristi, melsouth, and a
nbunch of
other people.  but jules...i never met you (wah!!!), i was a few minutes
late (but i did manage to get up front) because i came straight from ohio!

but did anyone boot it????????  oh, i hope so!  okay, i need to start my
haul back to school...

see some of ya on sunday!

love,
karen :-)


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ok...the other day, i posted about wanting to know the chords to "gone
again."  "joy davis" wrote back with a version of hers.  and "ig
pirate" wrote back with a version of hers.  "ig pirate" only sent it
to me, and asked me to forward it on to the list, which i did.
there's been some kind of mixup i think, so here are both versions, by
their respective authors.  "i" did not figure these out.

joy davis' version:
g em c d
c em c d g

"ig pirate's" version:
g d c (020010) am d (or 200232 orx57575)
chorus:  em g c (020010) am d (or 200232 or x57575)

hope this is a little clearer as to who figured these out!!!!

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wow.  what can i say?  whatever awkwardness or disconnectedness that
seemed to pop up every once in a while during the first chicago show was
completely gone last night.  all the women on stage seemed to be really
into each other's groove...it could have been a "flo thang" (but dang, i
wish amy had said something new and not come out with the sys
lyrics--for the uninitiated, this song was some semi-spontaneous, giddy,
goofy, and fairly ad-libbed celebration of flirting...jane siberry
apparently flirts with anything that moves, and a fair amount of things
that don't...tee-hee).

diane was right--sister hit me hard.  i don't know who's demons amy is
channeling, or how she can put that much hurt and passion into a song
and stay alive, but it could be my new favorite song.  and the audience
was completely silent.  if anyone booted, let me know, because i'd give
anything to hear that song again.

amy in general seemed more relaxed and vibrant than she did in the
previous night's show.  i was maybe four rows from the stage, and she
was smiling and doing all the hand and eye motions.  it was great to
watch her during other people's songs--especially lourdes perez--the
energy between them was amazing.  at some points, it was
indistinguishable who's song was whose--not because they blended
together, but because everyone seemed so at home playing and singing
each other's songs.  that's one of the things that i'll take away from
these two shows--the collaboration, and meshing of so many different
styles and genres.  even jean smith...she has a wonderful spoken word
part that she's doing with emily's new song (soon to be nothing?) that
really fits into it without being predictable or homogenized.  and jean,
speaking of jean...towards the end, she grabbed a camera and took a
picture of the crowd, then after the show, handed out flowers to fans
near the stage, then when we were waiting around outside afterwards, she
came out and handed out more flowers.  and while her style is certainly
not for everyone (in canada was a little too much for me, especially two
nights in a row), i appreciated the fact that she was a part of the
tour.

after the show, i waited around with jen (we'd met in line, and found a
lot of common ground in our mutual family dysfunctions and memories of
iu) and some of the other fans to see the girls off (and maybe get
autographs).  amy and emily were the last to come out, at almost
midnight.  emily signed, and amy, who came out last, didn't sign but was
very friendly, and i was reminded all over again how grateful i am to
have come across their music, and how fortunate all of us are to have
such wonderfully strong and positive women in this world among us.

i think the feeling i come away from this experience with is a sense of
being "grounded in hope."  even this morning, when i woke up four hours
after going to bed to attend an early departmental meeting at work, i
had this sense of being alive, of living in my skin.  of really being
present, and being able to make even a little bit of a difference, which
is still a difference.

diane, i think its the other way around--i should be thanking you for
the priveledge of your company.  and you go girl, getting the set list.

well, its back to work in the wonderful world of commercial real estate.
i look forward to reading everyone else's reviews and seeing how the
camaraderie of the 'gette's develops during the last few shows.

take care,
shelley

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so...having not being all thrilled with the last cd i was verbally
dragged to the show last night to hear rockin ig...standing in line
during sound chicks i hear 2 girls come out saying "i hope they don't
play that  s**t" tonight",,of course i start to try to find my escape...

well kids let me tell you...
this show f**ing rocked....... just like good old rock n' roll from "in
my day"...buffalo daughter were  really in a groove,,not techno rock( as
they were described to me) at all..but good good stuff....
then on come all the girls....i was right down front@2 feet from emily (
close enuf to see if she had fillings in her teeth ( and don't ask cause
i ain't tellin...the only reason i know is cause when she laughs that
laugh that melts me she opens her mouth so wide..and did ya ever notice
how her eyes sparkle???)
     you heard the set list..i loved it all even jean smith...she is
scarrrrrrrryyyyy..what is with her anyway???? but she did a "poem or
verse" thingy that really got to me..so much so mel had to shush me(
shuddup mel..i'll enjoy the dam show the way i want to)
jane reminded me of laura petri except with blonde hair,,she really
embarrassed amy with the flirt song...(amy, by the way....ok..so the
entire world knows i am an emily fan from the get go,,but i will
admit,,amy does have this real shy little embarrassed smile..she doesn't
do it often,,but when she does it she is a cutie..i wanted to offer to
wipe the sweat off her brow...her arms..her..well you get the idea)
anyway ..if you have a chance go,( yes mo..get tix!!),,amy thanked
chicago all night long for being the listening crowd..telling us how
much they appreciated  it( so there.. you bagles!!!!!!!)
btw..if anyone from the press asks you if they can move front of you for
a minute to get some pix..do it..i did ..and she took my addy and
promised to send me shots of the show..spoke with her after the show and
i do believe she will...great to meet everyone from the list
greg..yer still my hero
shelly..bout damn time we hooked up
mel..what can i say?
marivel?hmmm..now why was it sulli made sure she gave you that rose
again???????
michelle..i'm waiting for that dinner...
and everyone else..lets do it again soon....

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 08:49:46 pdt
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>http://www.matador.recs.com/bands/samples.html
>(a real audio recording of come's song hurricane)...
>lots of intense, emotionally fraught lyrics on top
>of swirling, complicated guitar and instrumentals. sounds like the
>indigo girls-meets-nine inch nails.

no, i take that back.  sounds like ig-meets-the cure-meets hole.
woo hoo!

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i think i made this offer to the list before, but the person who won never
followed through. so here i go again...

i have a copy of disappear fear's self-titled cd, and to be blunt... i hate
it. sorry, df fans! usually when i buy things on the advice of the list,
they're great, but this one was a stinker in my opinion. that aside (ha ha)
i know there are lots of people who _don't_ agree with me, and i think this
cd deserves a home with someone who will love and cherish it (sniff sniff.)

here is the setlist:
washington work song
who's so scared
priceless
fix my life
be the one
is there anybody here
moment of glory
play the music
dance all night
the missing song
kiss the world

to make it fair for the digest people, i'll just give it to whoever gives
me the best reason for wanting it. you will have to send me self-addressed
materials so i can mail it to you (sorry, i'm so broke i can't even buy
shampoo). please reply privately.

thanks,
emily

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okay, here's my question...how far is it from chicago to cincy?  and are
there tickets left for sunday's show?  call me crazy, but i think i
could do it...rent a car for a day, get back in time to go to work on
monday...please, someone let me know soon so i can figure this all out!
i need my fix!

love,
shelley

p.s.  pooh's right.  amy's got that awesome smile...but i came away from
these last couple shows with a whole new appreciation for emily!

:)

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pooh wote:
>marivel?hmmm..now why was it sulli made sure she gave you that rose
>again???????

marivel- email me, i lost your address.  i want to press you for info.
oh, and i have a little anecdote to tell ya, think you'll like it.
so yeah. quid pro quo, chicky.  let's dish.

jill

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from:         miriam <miriam@perfection.nl>
subject:      you know you're an obsessed indigo girls fan when:

     you are walking to the shop to pick up your brand-new recumbent
     (lie-while-you-ride) and you see an unformiliar hardwarestore. you
     can't resist the temptation and go in, just looking around.
     just before you step out again your eye falls on a glass thermometer,
     with little glass bubbles in it, each with a little plate on it,
     reading different temperatures. the thermometer is called galileo.
     even though you are gonna be cycling home for the next 5 days (gonna
     ride 300 km with your new (fully packed) trike), you actually consider
     buying the fragile object.

     and...
     you are visiting your old school and then remember that a lyric in
     ghost (i would launch a thousand ships to bring your soul back to my
     island) always made you think about how the ancient greek went to troy
     to bring back the wife of menelaos (king of sparta), the beautiful
     helena. so you go visit your old latin teacher and ask him in what
     book of the ilias homer writes about the amount of ships sent out to
     rescue helena. after that you go straight to the library, look up the
     book, and from now till eternity you know the greek sent 1056 ships to
     the trojan war. (now ain?t that useful to know?)


     anne

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in a message dated 8/26/98 11:32:12 pm eastern daylight time,
jillyc@hotmail.com writes:

> i mean, that's fine, all the more for me, i'm thinking.  but it's
> damn rude.

oh yeah! man! lisa germano walked to the bus after amy got her little
scream party (don't get me wrong, i am huge amy fan!) and not even a
peep! she even said, "what's the deal? nothing!?" and i did a little
woo! but felt dumb at that point. i felt like a jerk after that. :(

but the security guys were saying stand behind the pylons if you want to
see the indigo girls. so i said, "can i go see gail ann dorsey and lisa
germano?" and said sure and anyone could have gone over to talk to them.
ig were the big act and that was obvious. no mention of the word
suffragette on the marquis. it was indigo girls 7:30.

and shucks, jill... you're making me blush...
lookout! here come the police!! :)

oh my god!! oh my god!!

oh my god! hi, marivel!


peace,
amy

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hmmm... i know in california there was a boycott against nabisco because
they supported prop. 187, which denyed illegal immigrants certain benefits.
i suck because i can't remember the details of what that proposition
called for, but i do remember that it was a bunch of crap, and definitely
directed at mexican immigrants.  help me out californians....
anyway, 187 passed, and even though this is a california issue and not a
national one, it's still an issue of basic human rights.
i'm not saying that's necessarily why the girls avoid that company, but
it's one more thing to add to nabisco's track record.
leslie

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i figured that among all of you intelligent people i might
find this info.  i went to go see "the opposite of sex" a
couple weeks ago and they previewed a movie called
"________, seduction, sacrifice, and other career moves,"
which if i am not completely retarded had ally sheedy in it
(from short circuit and a bunch if other things).  anyway,
now i can't find any info on it and i don't know when it is
coming out, and i want to see it.  if you know any info let
me know.  it looked like a good movie.  intriguing title,
yes?

also i want to meet list people, because it sounds like you
are having so much fun.  i am going to the show at
boathouse, but i know nothing about the town, or anything,
so if someone wants to help me plan a meet, let's do it.  i
want to tell crazy stories.

karen


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on thu, 27 aug 1998, shelley miller wrote:

> okay, here's my question...how far is it from chicago to cincy?
> and are there tickets left for sunday's show?

shelley, i can make it from cincy to chi-town in about 4 1/2
hours barring any construction on i-65 ... but i drive like a bat
out of hell. and i just checked the bogart's web page and the
show is not sold out. if you need any help with directions and
such, email me off list.

for anyone else out there, join us sunday night ... bogart's is
an interesting venue.

go for it ...
tle
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does anyone know if there are any pics from any suffragette shows
posted on the net?   jes

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 14:59:35 -0400
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hkf's,

here's part deux - to the ridiculous lilith fair humor (if you can call it
that).  if sherlyn koo "koo ga choo" sent the first one to the list - then
here's another one.  (even thought some parts make me a tad bit ornery,
overall it brings a few giggles which ain't all that bad)
8-)

> >>
> >>>the second season of the much ballyhooed lilith fair concert
> festival,
> >>>featuring such folk and light rock artists as sarah mclachlan,
> natalie
> >>>merchant, paula cole, and the indigo girls, was  interrupted last
> night
> >>in san antonio by the surprise and raucous appearance of david lee
> roth,
> >>>original singer for the heavy metal supergroup van halen.
> >>>
> >>>"mr. roth will hear from our attorneys," a steely mclachlan,
> founder
> >>>and headliner of the tour, stated at an emergency press conference
> >>>organized immediately after the incident. "today was a black day
> for
> >>>touchy feely music and sensitive people everywhere. that man is a
> pig."
> >>>
> >>>"he just ruined everything!" sobbed jewel, one of the singer
> >>>songwriters featured on the tour. amidst questions to other
> performers,
> >>>jewel interrupted several times to add emphatically, "i'm from
> alaska!
> >>i grew up poor!"
> >>>
> >>>the fracas began midway through pop fledging fiona apple's self
> >>>described "bitter" set. roth, suspended from a giant chain, swooped
> >>>down on stage before the puzzled and then terrified crowd of
> 20,000,
> >>>most of whom were either insecure female literature majors or gay
> men
> >>>who work in barnes and noble bookstores and/or starbucks
> >>>coffeeshops.
> >>>
> >>>roth, wearing spandex leggings and a ripped tank top apparently
> made
> >>>from some net material, detached from the chain, then ran out and
> >>>gestured grandly to the uneasy crowd. groping apple lewdly,
> wiggling
> >>>his ass into the nearest of many cameras, he then shouted "i heard
> >>>san antonio likes to party!!!!" into the nearest live microphone.
> >>>slinging the fiery but diminutive apple over his shoulder, smacking
> her
> >>>thighs repeatedly as she pummeled his back with her fists, he cued
> >>>bandmembers (apparently smuggled onstage) to hit the opening riff
> of
> >>>the van halen classic "hot for teacher."
> >>>
> >>>roth was able to elude security and perform for roughly twenty
> minutes,
> >>>as apparently he brought a number of bodyguards with him, who not
> >>>only prevented his removal from the stage but also the shutting
> down of
> >>>the soundboard and massive audio electrical system wired throughout
> >>>the stadium. as the crowd threw cups, beads, concert tee-shirts,
> and
> >>>flaming bras at him, roth returned their fire with incendiary
> >>performances of such classic van halen nuggets as "running with the
> devil,"
> >>>"panama," "jump," and the highly suggestive "ice cream man."
> >>>
> >>>by all appearances, roth, teasing his blonde mane of hair as he
> >>>ebulliently karate kicked across the stage, seemed to enjoy himself
> >>>thoroughly. so, too, did the handful of boyfriends who surely
> thought
> >>>they were in for a grim evening of dreary acoustic hugs when they
> >>>agreed to go with their girlfriends to this latest stop in the
> summer
> >>long lilith fair tour.
> >>>
> >>>"i just hope i showed you people what you're missing by
> >>>forking over fifty bucks to see lame chick rock like this,"
> >>>roth shouted nodding derisively at the fuming merchant and other
> female
> >>>performers just offstage.
> >>>
> >>>shortly afterward, roth happily allowed himself to be arrested
> after
> >>>closing his set with the thunderous wallop of "everybody wants
> some."
> >>>he even briefly introduced the indigo girls before leaving the
> stage by
> >>>saying "now these two, uh, ladies can harmonize well
> >>>together. and after a few beers, they might look pretty
> >>>good together, you know what i'm saying?  give it up for
> >>>them, and they might give it up for you!!! the indigo girls!!!!!
> >>>woooo-hooooo!"
> >>>
> >>>the original lilith fair concert lineup was resumed ten or so
> minutes
> >>after roth left the stage. subsequently, every single performance
> was
> >>>dedicated to "the eradication of all men from the entire
> planet!!!!"
> >>deafeningly defiant roars greeted each new song.
> >>>
> >>>the san antonio district attorney's office is investigating the
> case, a
> >>>police spokesperson stated. roth posted $50,000 bail this morning.
> as
> >>>he left the courthouse grinning, a throng of reporters asked what
> he
> >>>planned to do next.
> >>>
> >>>"why go to disneyland, of course," the loquacious roth cartoonishly
> >>>responded while signing autographs. "or maybe that paula cole's
> house.
> >>>i think she likes me, you know. she might not act like it, but she
> >>does.  you can tell. i'm not bragging, but you can just tell, you
> know?"
> >>>
> >>>neither cole nor eddie van halen returned calls late this
> afternoon.
> >>the lilith fair tour continues throughout the summer.
> >>
> >>

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 12:50:37 pdt
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how do i get so far behind in my email?? :p
cuz the net died last night..i hate it!
i dunno if this has already been mentioned but

ani difranco is going to be on vh1 hard rock live tomorrow at 6pm!!!!
i freaked out when my sister told me cuz usually ani stuff comes through
this list! so all ya'll ani fans don't wanna miss it! :)

*hugs*

lamia
*only 86 emails to go*

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 17:18:12 edt
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is ani gonna be on at 6:00pm pacific time, or eastern time?

---john

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 17:36:04 edt
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for those in nyc who are interested in hearing some really good music tomorrow
night (friday).....
marilyn (of marilyn5), trina hamlin & nini (of love pie)
are doing an acoustic show at
the living room this fri. aug. 28th at 10pm
(corner of stanton & allen st., on block south of houston, nyc)

come join us if youre around... its loads of fun & theres no cover.

this show usually includes leslie nuchow...founder of slam!, but she's out of
town until september. these girls put on a good show. give em a try!!!!!

dawn-michelle

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marilyn, trina hamlin & nini (of love pie)
are doing an acoustic show at
the living room this fri. aug. 28th at 10pm
(corner of stanton & allen st., on block south of houston, nyc)

come join us if youre around... its loads of fun & theres no cover.

hope you're well...

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 17:34:12 edt
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hi, everyone! does anybody know the chords to "shed your skin." i would really
appreciate it. thanks, bye!

---john

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 17:50:24 edt
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if anyone comes across a sys and feels compelled to purchase it even if they
already have it, i would be willing to pay your cost, shipping, and my undying
gratitude...i don't care which color, 1 or both it doesn't matter..i am
desperate!!!

i have looked all over baltimore, dc, no. va, and atlanta...not to mention i
have friends all over texas, ca, and fl looking for it too...  help!!!!!!!!!!!

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john, dude, what's up???? welcome, welcome! :-) how're ya doing? always great
to add another member to our humongously ponderous indigo family! so, how're
the rest of the spice girls? (heehee)

peace, openness, and bright indigo blessings!
lilith

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 16:01:23 pdt
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ok this may be a totally off the wall question..but does anyone here
listen to rasputina? i have been contemplating buying one of their
albums since thanks for the ether came out..but never got around to
it..but now i'm curious..are they any good? does anyone here listen to
'em at all? know of any bootlegs? thanks!!

*hugs*

lamia
*who somehow now has 96 messages*
they breed..i'm telling ya!! they should not be left alone in my
inbox!!!

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reunion was on party of five rerun on lifetime tonight!  during a scene in
bedroom of neve campbell and since one was in scream, do ya think she could be
a fan?

amanda

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        ok, so i was at this local record store (that kicks ass) and happened to come
across a cd entitled live from the mountain stage, volume 5.... ig is on there
with the song loves recovery, so i dont need to go into details about me
jumping up and down and running straight to the cash register... what i
wondered was if anyone has ever heard of this... i mean, i have heard of the
womens live from the mountain stage, but this cd has like widespread panic on
it and they might be giants... hmmm... any helpers?  was only $5.99 too :) woo
hooo

troop

oh yea, what does "original records" and tour posters.. i mean, i know what a
friggin tour poster is but the original record part???

thanx

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ok first off..i accidentally dubbed a copy of ani difranco roseland '97
where she does when doves cry with the ig..for someone that already had
it..anyone want to take it off mmy hands??
#2-hotmail did it again *sigh* only have 3 messages in my account..it's
f***in with my head! :p
there was someone who had an ani boot that i wanted sam or san or
something was part of their addy...i kept meaning to get back to
them..but never did...you know who  you are! can you possibly email me
again? i hate hotmail ya'll i'm seriously thinking about switching all
my accounts somewhere else :p

*hugs*

lamia


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my indigo girls mailing list debut.


hey all.  i'm a little green to this.  just subscribed last week.  me, an
indigo girls fan?  quite.  i grew up in atlanta and spent every summer of my
childhood in carrolton, ga, at west georgia college, learning almost
everything a little girl could learn at summer camp.   that was in 1989.
whoa!  is it really already 1998?  and i'm just now starting to get around to
trying to see the girls in concert since that summer in 1989.

it seems that my interests with the girls' music have been cyclical.  that is,
i endure the most terrible times in my life with their music in the
background, usually.  fortunately, my life isn't always perpetually tragic, so
i only 'get into' them when bad times are a-comin'.

lately, i've been really obsessing, i think.  it's near obsession, and it
scares me.  so, i've subscribed to this list hoping it will give me that
'fix'.  give me that fix, y'all!

i think it (my interest and obsession for the girls' music) might coincide
with my love life, except when i was too young for a love life.  it also seems
that their newest cds are released after a big break up or a family crisis,
which helps me out tremendously.  except, for some reason this healing period
since last year has been long and very drawn out.

nonetheless, i haven't seen them in concert since 1989,...and that was a great
g-rated concert.  if proscrastination continues, though, what are the chances
that i'll ever get to see them without the freaking sloppy, attention-starved,
drunk as hell fans who trample over anyone in their way?  i want to see them
in concert, but i'm not eager to be trampled.  and, i think i deserve a
concert.  i've seen ani d. in concert several times, concerts that were by far
small and quaint, but the indigo girls are my favorite.  ironic b/c i've
enjoyed many musically fantastic, small concerts (the connells, shawn mullins,
big head todd, drivin' and cryin', matthew sweet, kristen hall,  michelle
malone, cracker, ani difranco, government mule, and smoke) and never ever,
ever the indigo girls.

you can bet, though, that when i do get to see them, i'll be forever
satisfied...or disappointed.

-chee

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 20:59:05 -0400
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did this really happen?  this year?  this is the first i heard of it!
please someone, fill me in!

love, karen

> the second season of the much ballyhooed lilith fair concert
> festival, featuring such folk and light rock artists as sarah
> mclachlan,
>  natalie merchant, paula cole, and the indigo girls, was  interrupted
> last
>  night  in san antonio by the surprise and raucous appearance of david
> lee
>  roth, original singer for the heavy metal supergroup van halen.
>
> "mr. roth will hear from our attorneys," a steely mclachlan,
> founder and headliner of the tour, stated at an emergency press
> conference
> organized immediately after the incident. "today was a black day
> for touchy feely music and sensitive people everywhere. that man is a
> pig."
>
> "he just ruined everything!" sobbed jewel, one of the singer
> songwriters featured on the tour. amidst questions to other
> performers, jewel interrupted several times to add emphatically, "i'm
> from
> alaska!  i grew up poor!"
>
> the fracas began midway through pop fledging fiona apple's self
> described "bitter" set. roth, suspended from a giant chain, swooped
> down on stage before the puzzled and then terrified crowd of
> 20,000, most of whom were either insecure female literature majors or
> gay
>  men who work in barnes and noble bookstores and/or starbucks
> coffeeshops.
>
> roth, wearing spandex leggings and a ripped tank top apparently
>  made from some net material, detached from the chain, then ran out
> and
> gestured grandly to the uneasy crowd. groping apple lewdly,
> wiggling his ass into the nearest of many cameras, he then shouted "i
> heard
> san antonio likes to party!!!!" into the nearest live microphone.
> slinging the fiery but diminutive apple over his shoulder, smacking
> her thighs repeatedly as she pummeled his back with her fists, he cued
>
> bandmembers (apparently smuggled onstage) to hit the opening riff
> of the van halen classic "hot for teacher."
>
> roth was able to elude security and perform for roughly twenty
>  minutes, as apparently he brought a number of bodyguards with him,
> who not
> only prevented his removal from the stage but also the shutting
> down of the soundboard and massive audio electrical system wired
> throughout
> the stadium. as the crowd threw cups, beads, concert tee-shirts,
> and flaming bras at him, roth returned their fire with incendiary
> performances of such classic van halen nuggets as "running with the
> devil," "panama," "jump," and the highly suggestive "ice cream man."
>
> by all appearances, roth, teasing his blonde mane of hair as he
> ebulliently karate kicked across the stage, seemed to enjoy himself
> thoroughly. so, too, did the handful of boyfriends who surely
>  thought they were in for a grim evening of dreary acoustic hugs when
> they
> agreed to go with their girlfriends to this latest stop in the summer
> long lilith fair tour.
>
> "i just hope i showed you people what you're missing by
> forking over fifty bucks to see lame chick rock like this,"
> roth shouted nodding derisively at the fuming merchant and other
> female
> performers just offstage.
>
> shortly afterward, roth happily allowed himself to be arrested after
> closing his set with the thunderous wallop of "everybody wants
>  some." he even briefly introduced the indigo girls before leaving the
>
>  stage by saying "now these two, uh, ladies can harmonize well
> together. and after a few beers, they might look pretty
> good together, you know what i'm saying?  give it up for
> them, and they might give it up for you!!! the indigo girls!!!!!
> woooo-hooooo!"
>
> the original lilith fair concert lineup was resumed ten or so minutes
> after roth left the stage. subsequently, every single performance  was
> dedicated to "the eradication of all men from the entire planet!!!!"
> deafeningly defiant roars greeted each new song.

> the san antonio district attorney's office is investigating the
> case, a police spokesperson stated. roth posted $50,000 bail this
> morning.
> as he left the courthouse grinning, a throng of reporters asked what
> he planned to do next.

> "why go to disneyland, of course," the loquacious roth cartoonishly
> responded while signing autographs. "or maybe that paula cole's house.
>
> i think she likes me, you know. she might not act like it, but she
> does.  you can tell. i'm not bragging, but you can just tell, you
> know?"
>
> neither cole nor eddie van halen returned calls late this afternoon.

> the lilith fair tour continues throughout the summer.

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 21:28:08 edt
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if anybody gets this message the night of 8/27 and has complicated
girls--could you email the title's of the songs as they appear on the
album...i left my copy at my friend mike's place and need to copy down the
"wrong" titles for those i'm making copies for...i think that's half the charm
of the cd...so, i would greatly appreciate it!!

peace,
kara.

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 21:29:57 edt
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for those of us poor souls who live on the west coast and can not participate
in all the fun....does anyone have the lyrics to that new amy song 'sisters'.
at least kind of give me an idea of what is to come
dev

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 22:04:35 edt
reply-to:     memememi@aol.com
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hello everyone,

i think that i read someone asking if there were any suffragette session show
pictures on the web - well, i just added some to my web page, so if you're
interested, go to the main page, and follow the links.  i also have some from
the newport show up too =)

http://members.aol.com/memememi/indigogirls.html

=)
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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 22:24:23 edt
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hi sarah,

i misplaced your email addy but i wanted to let you know i received your
envelope in the mail with all contents intact.  yeah, snail mail was
successful!! glad you enjoyed the photos.

take care,

~leslie

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  (by grace my sight grows stronger, grows stronger)" emily saliers aka email

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 22:24:51 edt
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as someone requested, here are the lyrics to amy's new song "sister".     i
really can't say enough about this song.   you just have to hear it to
understand how it hits you.   lucky you suffragette session attendees that get
to hear it!!!!!   if anyone has a boot - i'd love to trade with you =)

btw - this is as we heard it played at the roxy in atlanta on 8/5.   lyrics
could be different by now.......


sister i'm heading out of alabama
so you'd better think fast
the wind's gonna pick me up now
and the rain won't stop

i'm heading down to georgia
so don't lose track
of where you been and where you going now
and who you've seen and what they lack
and why you come undone
every time you go there
and how you come undone

i know your heart's in danger
and so is your life
you'd better learn to trust a stranger
and stop & rest for a night

see a sign up in the headlights
and a moon up above won't be enough
light the embers of another
and the night won't seem so rough
sister....

there was a bloody beast of burden
on a dark texas road
and a woman in a family way
and a car that lost control
i'm studying the distance
from the blanket to the gun
it's ten hours to natchez
and another ten home

i know your heart's in danger
and so is your life
you'd better learn to trust a stranger
and stop & camp for the night

see a sign up in the headlights
and a moon up above
light the embers of another
and the night won't seem so rough
sister
go ahead
come on now

it was trust that brought me here
and trust will bring me home

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 22:55:15 edt
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i don't have their albums, but i've heard one and i thought i was really cool,
and i had friends who saw them live say they were really, really good - even
friends who don't usually gravitate towards female artists particularly or
that type of music.  so i'd say, if you see it go ahead - i've been meaning
to, too, except for that money thing...

love,
alissa

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you?  when did i decide to be crucified by you?"  --  stabbing westward

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 23:07:19 -0400
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            indigoers or whatever we call ourselves,
        erin ~ gitroupe ~ can i get a ruling on this one?
    who's doing that shirt/name thangie anyways?

i bin wantin' to post about the 9:30 concert, but i
haven't...  i think i had pts syndrome, cuz i was 'roughed
up' by those big hairy thugs who work at the 9:30 club!
anyhoo, i've resolved this issue and it's called lawsuit!
kidding! and sadly all my pictures turned out black!
undaunted by my traumatic experience, next time imma gonna
try it again...

even tho i spent c2f with big ugly bouncers, it was still a
kick ass concert!!  i was in the second row, and oh my gawd,
what a view!!!  my beloved emily has had some dental work on
her top, left molar.  i wonder who her dentist is?  no one
go nuts, i don't reeeelly wanna know, altho those so
inclined can email me privately. ;)

my beautiful daughter was wearing a 'pervert' shirt, which
caught sara lee's attention. so, those two shared a few
intimate glances & snickers during the show. i'm
not sure how i feel about that one. ;)   and i swear this is
the truth! ready?????  well, my eyes met emily's eyes
twice!!! i
think she wants me!!! hey, is she involved with anyone?
joke! altho those so inclined can email me privately. ;)~
oh gawd what a night! i haven't had sooooo much fun and
excitement in years!  and now i keep dreaming about
abandoning skool + the fruit of my womb + following the
grrls on the road. but i'm not...  pleeeze know, my womb
fruit are the most important thang in the world to me, but
second's gotta be them gals!!!

and can this evening get more betters and 'citing?
yepper....  stay tuned for chapter two...    indigo luv, bar
water retention is not new to me ~ emily saliers

                                         peace + love,
                                   forever a flower child
                                    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
      water retention is not new to me ~ emily saliers
if you're not outraged, then you're not paying attention!
     bcorrice@wam.umd.edu   http://www.wam.umd.edu/~bcorrice
             http://www.wam.umd.edu/~bcorrice/dir.html
                                    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 22:52:29 -0400
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subject:      re: nigc: rasputina?
x-to:         saliers_ray@hotmail.com

rasputina rocks!!!!!!!!! thanks for the ether is awesome buy it buy it
buy it!!!!!!


hugs,
heather

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make my counter say a big number
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on thu, 27 aug 1998 16:01:23 pdt lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
writes:
>ok this may be a totally off the wall question..but does anyone here
>listen to rasputina? i have been contemplating buying one of their
>albums since thanks for the ether came out..but never got around to
>it..but now i'm curious..are they any good? does anyone here listen to
>'em at all? know of any bootlegs? thanks!!
>
>*hugs*
>
>lamia
>*who somehow now has 96 messages*
>they breed..i'm telling ya!! they should not be left alone in my
>inbox!!!
>
>"if emily [saliers] was a man, she'd be gerard mchugh."
>--lel my sis, after hearing more than i for the first time.
>
>"i almost ran over an angel..."
>--tori amos, leather
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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 23:25:45 edt
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hey rick, if you are out there, would you email me?  i have a question for
you....

thank you,
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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 20:11:25 -0800
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does anyone have lyrics to this?  i would die to read them!
:)

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speaking as a californian and registered voter, i voted against 187,
because one of my main beefs with that proposition, is that illegal
(mexican) immigrants would be denied healthcare!  whoa--and then,
california would break out with all sorts of epidemics from kids not
getting their vaccinations, and people would die because the technology
is there, but the money isn't!  actually, they do have a program for
children getting vaccinated regardless of their residential status...but
still, denying someone basic healthcare is against the hippocratic oath.
hello! *laugh*  okay, i'm done ranting.

diane

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hey again--just had to say how much more i enjoyed the second show over teh
first one.  sorry about that sue--hope your finals studying went well.
last night's show was far far better imo.  first of all they played
cannonball by the breeders.  they even did the moo-ing in the beginning.
it was so cool to watch amy screaming--the bong in this reggae song.  i
just love when ig covers bands i know.  i guess that's why i enjoyed it
more.  they also did joleen (sp?) a nice dolly parton tune (kelly hogan
sung it).  i love the new ig songs although i don't know what the names
are.

and let's just say jane siberry is the cutest thing ever.  her totally
random microphone babble was killing me.  and when she embarrassed
amy--classique!  what a perfect opportunity for one of amy's stream of
consciousness speeches and she goes with the spoken word intro to sys.  not
too impressive.  jane also kissed lourdes perez after one of her songs to
which our dear lourdes replied that she and jane should share the mike more
often.

jean smith is a freak even if she is sweet.  there was a big poster on sale
with her name and whatever on it.  it was a huge picture of a vagina.  i
kid you not.  and not just a pretty little vagina.  we're talkin legs
spread wide open close up shot.  it was quite bizarre to have that be the
first thing i saw when entering the theater.  hadn't seen one of them in
years :):).

they were just more casual and more musical and happier.  and as already
mentioned--they were very appreciative of the "listening crowd".  i would
have still loved a ss with better known artists but after last night's show
i can't complain at all.  definitely made up for the disappointement of the
previous night.

also great to put faces with email addresses after the show.  very nice to
have met some happy listees.  i always feel weird going up to people saying
hi what's your email address and i'll know who you are.  hope to see you
all again soon.  pooh--thanks for letting me hug you.  i owed you big time
for all those pretty signs you put up for me on the aids ride.  you are
awesome.  talk to y'all soon

greg

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date:         thu, 27 aug 1998 23:39:04 +0200
reply-to:     maike <engelha@uni-bremen.de>
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...creeping out of lurkdom..

hi y'all,
here i am, the quiet specter, the ex-newbie-without-boots, and i am willing
to raise my voice for kathrin, who rocked my world today with the boot
collection she sent me.

i received 11( yes eleven) wonderful boots in beautiful cases with gorgeous
inlets.
kathrin made my day!!:)))))))))))))

and i want to make this day the official kathrin day, and i am sure there
are more people like me out there who have to thank her more than they can
for their newly gained insight on the early works of our beloved girls.

                      you rock, kathrin

and she even put some of her own music on the boots and, man, she does
rock!!!!


what a wonderful mailing list this is....sigh...:)))


..dancing back into lurkdom.....


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hi y'all!

i was reading through the above first ig experiences and was inspired to
post my own. (see karen, you said to post, and now, i'm overdosing!
hahaha...just jokin') this was originally posted on the 1998 lilith fair
message board.

5:27pm jun 22, 1998 - (192 of 862 messages)

countdown to the lilith fair !!!

there is only one reason why i am definitely going to the lilith fair
this year:

one winter day, my brother said, "you should listen to this song; i
think you'll like it." he played the tape with a mix of songs that his
friend's ex-girlfriend had made. i sat back and listened as the chords
and notes from the power of two began to play:

     "...but we're okay, we're fine, baby
     i'm here to stop your crying, chase
     all the ghosts from your head,
     stronger than the monster beneath your
     bed, smarter than the tricks played
     on your heart, look at them together
     and then take them apart, adding up
     the total of a love that's true
     multiply life by the power of two..."

my brother who is an acoustic guitarist loved the guitar in that song.
i, however, appreciated the lyrics as well.  he ended up buying swamp
ophelia, and i discovered "least complicated", "the language or the
kiss",and others. i was further intrigued by amy and emily's lyrics, and
a few weeks later, i bought 1200 curfews. i lost it; i was and still am
so in love.

now i am headed to the lilith fair this saturday, june 27, at 1:30pm, in
the rose bowl, pasadena, california, and i am psyched!! i have yet to
buy "shaming of the sun" secondary to my student budget, but i am so
looking forward to hearing amy, emily, sara, jerry, et al. live!
one day when i was listening to 1200, i said to myself,"i live to
discover music like this." so, to amy ray and emily saliers, thank you
so much.
to the rest of you, enjoy lilith! i know i will. have fun!
                             =)

epilogue: two weeks after buying 1200c(5/98), i bought sf and
botbya(6/98) on tape as well.  then a couple days before lilith, i
bought sots(6/25/98) on cd to be familiar with scooter boys and their
latest music.  the second weekend in july, i bought watershed and live
at the uptown lounge. two weeks ago(8/98), i received rop and nis on cd
from bmg music.  so, it has been an intense love affair.  strange fire
is competing with 1200c for airplay on my walkman, and my favorite song
at the moment is crazy game.  but my ultimate favorite is mystery.
though i do like that ghost and this world falls....
oh boy, and i did fly out to chicago and hang out like a total
groupie...

rambling on,
diane

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hi y'all!

i was reading through the above first ig experiences and was inspired to
post my own. (see karen, you said to post, and now, i'm overdosing!
hahaha...just jokin') it's kind of long, apologies in advance. this was
originally posted on the 1998 lilith fair message board.

5:27pm jun 22, 1998 - (192 of 862 messages)

countdown to the lilith fair !!!

there is only one reason why i am definitely going to the lilith fair
this year:

one winter day, my brother said, "you should listen to this song; i
think you'll like it." he played the tape with a mix of songs that his
friend's ex-girlfriend had made. i sat back and listened as the chords
and notes from the power of two began to play:

     "...but we're okay, we're fine, baby
     i'm here to stop your crying, chase
     all the ghosts from your head,
     stronger than the monster beneath your
     bed, smarter than the tricks played
     on your heart, look at them together
     and then take them apart, adding up
     the total of a love that's true
     multiply life by the power of two..."

my brother who is an acoustic guitarist loved the guitar in that song.
i, however, appreciated the lyrics as well.  he ended up buying swamp
ophelia, and i discovered "least complicated", "the language or the
kiss",and others. i was further intrigued by amy and emily's lyrics, and
a few weeks later, i bought 1200 curfews. i lost it; i was and still am
so in love.

now i am headed to the lilith fair this saturday, june 27, at 1:30pm, in
the rose bowl, pasadena, california, and i am psyched!! i have yet to
buy "shaming of the sun" secondary to my student budget, but i am so
looking forward to hearing amy, emily, sara, jerry, et al. live!
one day when i was listening to 1200, i said to myself,"i live to
discover music like this." so, to amy ray and emily saliers, thank you
so much.
to the rest of you, enjoy lilith! i know i will. have fun!
                             =)

epilogue: two weeks after buying 1200c(5/98), i bought sf and
botbya(6/98) on tape as well.  then a couple days before lilith, i
bought sots(6/25/98) on cd to be familiar with scooter boys and their
latest music.  the second weekend in july, i bought watershed and live
at the uptown lounge. two weeks ago(8/98), i received rop and nis on cd
from bmg music.  so, it has been an intense love affair.  strange fire
is competing with 1200c for airplay on my walkman, and my favorite song
at the moment is crazy game.  but my ultimate favorite is mystery.
though i do like that ghost and this world falls....
oh boy, and i did fly out to chicago and hang out like a total
groupie...

rambling on,
diane

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 07:31:52 -0400
reply-to:     reebee@otherside.com
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does anybody have a tape of the acoustic cafe they would be willing to
tape?

kim & rhea

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according to flemtam, dar is going to be at the birchmere in january...
yahooey!

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 09:38:41 -0400
reply-to:     kelly fairbairn <fairbk@sage.edu>
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ok, so y'all posted all these great reviews.  now who booted this?  (i
will give an appendage to hear cannonball....)

kelly

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 08:59:05 -0500
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hi,

i don't know if this has been mentioned yet or not, but the indigo girls
will be the featured live guest on this weekend's acoustic cafe radio show.
acoustic cafe is a nationally syndicated radio show carried across most of
the us.   the show normally features lots of great live acoustic music
performances.

amy and emily will be playing four live songs, including two which have
never been recorded for an album before.  the four songs are "gone again",
"it's all right", "galileo", and "go".  in addition, the show also features
an interview with amy and emily.

the acoustic cafe website is at http://www.acafe.com.  in addition, for
those of you who can't hear acoustic cafe in your region, you can also hear
this performance at http://www.mlive.com/cafe/.

hope everyone gets a chance to hear this.

thanks,

steve ellis

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 10:09:17 -0400
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is anyone planning to tape this that would be willing to share - some of us
won't be able to listen to it on the net or radio...

just a thought

thanks - b

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 07:13:08 pdt
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okay, so i've just joined the ranks of the deranged...knowing full well
that i have to be at work at 9 a.m. on monday, i've decided to rent a
car and drive down to cincy for the bogart's show...my question is...are
there any other chicago area listees interested in coming with?  i'm
picking up the car between 9 and 10 a.m. on sunday morning, and driving
back immediately after the show.

if you are interested, e-mail me here or call me at (773) 769-5798.
please note:  i don't have access to my e-mail account after i leave
work, so after 4:00 p.m. or so today (friday), the safest bet would be
to give me a call...if my answering machine doesn't pick up, its because
my power's still out (ick)...hopefully it comes back on eventually.

erin, thanks for the directions.  karen, thanks for the drive time!

see y'all there,
shelley

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 10:14:58 -0400
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okay,
        i know there has been a dozen posts about getting a
tape of this show, but i think i deleted tehm all, ao if
some kind soul would let me know how i can get a copy of
the show i would be forever indebted.  i can't get it here.
ahhhhhhhhhhh!

thanks,
karen 8-)


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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 10:41:04 -0400
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at 05:36 pm 8/27/98 edt, you wrote:
i must concur here folks....
these girls rock.  they're so talented and they're all sweet and cute and
all that other good stuff.  go check them out.  it's free for pete's sake.
support these guys, buy their cd's at the show!!!!!!!
cheri

>for those in nyc who are interested in hearing some really good music
tomorrow
>night (friday).....
>marilyn (of marilyn5), trina hamlin & nini (of love pie)
>are doing an acoustic show at
>the living room this fri. aug. 28th at 10pm
>(corner of stanton & allen st., on block south of houston, nyc)
>
>come join us if youre around... its loads of fun & theres no cover.
>
>this show usually includes leslie nuchow...founder of slam!, but she's out of
>town until september. these girls put on a good show. give em a try!!!!!
>
>from: yomarilyn@aol.com

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hello to all in the land of indigo!

i just wanted to share a cool thing that happened yesterday.  i got home and
opened my mail and there was a handwritten letter from michelle malone to my
partner and i thanking us for sending her the photos we took at nff.  it was
so awesome!

it was a great feeling to get a note from michelle, whom i am thankful to all
the time for her being a constant source of inspiration!

take care and peace!

-deb

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 10:13:21 -0500
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didn't check my email yesterday so i know this is late and a lot of it has
already been said:
first of all, it was great meeting everyone, but i was so sad not to meet
julie! ack! karen and i were looking for you, hope everything was okay!
but back to the show. i kinda needed to sit down as i am still recovering
from surgery, so i had a feeling of the crowd and most seemed to know what
was going on, though i did hear a lot of complaints after the show
("wasn't this supposed to be an ig show?" no!)...
a few of my favorite moments:
during the flirting is a flow thing deal--jane put amy on the spot and she
leaned over to emily and they had a little conference as to what she
should do. i thought that was really cute and then i laughed really hard
when she said "115, you are 17, ..."
jean walked by our table when she wasn't on stage not once but twice...we
were on the way to the bar apparently. i was really amused because no one
seemed to notice or care.
i really enjoyed lisa germano, and must check her out.
also amused when lourdes perez asked in spanish if she should do her
little improv for flirting in english or spanish.
there were other things...i know this was mentioned but not fully
explained, but before cannonball jane said (i think it was her) that it
didn't sound like a moose to her and then eventually went into this story
of how the only time she ever saw a moose it was underwater and so it
sounded like blub blub or whatever and then everyone on stage did a moose
sound. anyway, i thought it was hilarious.
i also thought it was cute when rose polenzani said "nice to be back at
home where i can't see anybody" or something like that because the
spotlight was right in her face. cute.

after the show, i met a bunch of people, which was really great and then
my bf and i decided to go in and talk to rose polenzani because a few
summers ago he used to play open mics at the no exit cafe and he spent
hours with her and his band's lead singer bs-ing while waiting to go up
and sing. so she was really sweet. she didn't recognize him immediately
but then she definitely remembered nadia (the lead singer of american
daydream, his band) and said that the song she played on weds. was a song
on one of the tapes she gave nadia. i should have bought some of her
tapes. anyhoo, she was really sweet. and i told her my name and that she
was really great up there and she said thank you.

so jill, take note: not only did i not stand around and wait for ig so i
could scream only for them (i was too tired, and i felt that the whole
experience would leave me feeling kind of weird about the whole celebrity
thing) but i stopped and told rose that she was wonderful and gave her
some much deserved attention.

that's my story. thanks for stopping to say 'hi' everyone, hope to see
y'all again soon!

k-bye!
kristi
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my 2 big complaints about the show:
right now i am overly sensitive to smoke, and i didn't have the kind of
money they wanted for too many drinks, so this affected me more, but: did
it or did it not specifically say on the doors at the entrance and on the
screens that the artists requested no smoking during the performance. the
last thing they need is for their voices to be killed by that smoky club.
and i for one probably annoyed more people with my coughing then the smoke
did. and i realize taht it only said while they were performiong but most
people just went ahead and smoked as much as they wanted.
oh, and a minor complaint: the shirt. i like my shirt. but the girl on the
front, while she does look like she could kick some serious ass, is also a
bit, shall we say, disproportionate. ahem. in a barbie doll in knee length
leather boots sort of way. maybe it's just me. sorry for the rant.

k-bye!
kristi
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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 11:23:22 edt
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okay peeps! :)

      the bogart's show is sunday, and i know there could be some of you out
there that need directions, so here goes!

from 71 south, (from columbus):   take exit 3, (taft rd.)... get in the left
lane of the exit, and go through the lisht.  you'll be on w.h. taft, (a one-
way street).  pass reading, burnet, highland ave.  as you see a pair of green
steeples in the distance, beyond the trees to your right, get in the right
lane, and go right on euclid, (it will be just before the major intersection
at vine)... then go left on e. corry, (there is a parking lot on this street,
to your right, before you get to vine... or you can park on the street), then
right on vine.  bogart's will be on your left, (between the two red archways
over pedestrian crosswalks).   to get back to 71, backtrack on vine, go right
on w. corry, left on jefferson at light, straight through the next light,
(your street turns into vine), then left at _next_ light, onto mcmillan, (a
one-way)...  entrances to 71 will be on mcmillan, a few miles up the road.

i'll continue w/more directions, (from 74 and 75) in future posts...

~lisa

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 11:36:45 -0400
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okay, so the 2nd chicago show was great!  i loved it!  did anyone happen
to boot it?

also, is anyone planning on booting sunday's cincy show???  and speaking
of sunday, indigohio people (and anyone else), are wee meeting before the
show or afterwards?  what time are y'all getting there?  i am soooo
excited to see y'all again since i didn't go to columbus lilith.  jill,
e-mail me.  bethany, you're coming, right?

love,
karen :-)

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from east on i74:     just before 74 dead ends into 75 south, take the central
parkway exit, (it will be off to the left), and turn right onto central
pkwy...  you'll come to a big intersection, (with a white castle restaurant),
at martin luther king drive... take a left on mlk, and continue up the hill,
pass clifton ave., (at crest of hill), campus dr., and jefferson ave, (there
will actually be two signs for jefferson, because it's a really ugly
intersection... just pass 'em both)... after that is vine street. turn right
on vine... pass university, daniels, and charlton, and then bogart's will be
on your right, between the two red archways over pedestrian crosswalks.  park
wherever you can on the street, or there's a parking lot that you can reach by
going up to where vine ends, turning left on e. corry, then looking to your
left...      to get back, just backtrack to mlk, but you'll only be able to
turn right off of vine, (and you need to turn left)... so you'll have to turn
around after getting on mlk, so that you're going back the right way.

---  more directions, (from i75), continue in a future post!...

~lisa

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 12:05:26 -0400
reply-to:     karen jones <kmj5m@virginia.edu>
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dear fellow listees,
        okay, i need a favor.  i met this girl.  i
absolutely think she is the most perfect thing in the whole
wide world (not perfect, but perfect for me).  problem is
she lives in cape cod, and i am in charlottesville, va.
okay, so here's the deal.  we met at an ig show.  she loves
folk music: disappear fear, patty griffin, ani difranco,
ect.  i have plenty of tix to things in dc, but it is too
far for her to drive, so in order to see her i have to find
something halfway, like nyc or boston, ect.  i don't want
to go until october, because we both need to get settled
into school, but i can't seem to find anyone that is
touring into the winter.  it seems like patty griffin
should be touring because of her new album, but i guess
there is still time.  let me know if you have any
suggestions.

thanks,
karen


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and last, but not least...

from i75, (coming south _or_ north):    first of all, anybody coming from 71
_north_, (from louisville,ky), at the bridge crossing the ohio river, stay on
75 north, then take these directions...        take exit 3, (hopple street)...
go east on hopple, and get in the left lane...  at the light, (at central
parkway), go through and veer to to the left, going up the hill, (martin
luther king dr.)... do _not_ take the sharper left turn, which would put you
onto central parkway...   climb mlk, passing clifton ave, (crest of hill),
campus dr. and jefferson ave., (you'll see two signs for jefferson... don't
ask... just pass 'em both), and you'll come to vine street...  turn right on
vine, and pass university, daniels, and charlton... bogart's will then be on
your right, between the two red archways over the pedestrian crosswalks.
park wherever you can on the street, or there's a lot that you can reach by
going up to where vine ends, turning left on e. corry, and looking to your
left...   to get back, just backtrack on vine, but at mlk you'll only be able
to go right, (when you need to go left), so you'll have to turn around after
you get onto mlk, so that you're headed the right way.

~lisa

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okay!   i hope my directions were very clear for everyone...  i had heard that
bogart's actually has directions on their web page, but i thought it would be
better to hear slightly more descriptive directions from a list person...
now, a couple more things...   one, remember that the area that bogart's is
in, ("short vine" area), can be a little rough sometimes, and most parking is
on the streets, so i wouldn't leave any valuables lying out in my car, or walk
all that far alone...  it's not the worst part of town, but not completely
safe, either.   also, if you park illegally anywhere around this area, even if
it's just to run into a shop and get a cup of coffee, you will be ticketed...
seriously, it's like every cop in the city is hidden in the alleys, just
waiting for someone to ticket... i learned that the hard way!

there are plenty of little shops around short vine, and a few restaurants...
i had originally suggested that maybe we have a list meet that consisted of
lunch at the holy grail brewery, (on charlton, very close to bogart's), but
i'm beginning to think that wouldn't be such a good idea...  it's a general
admission show, and there may be a line forming early, and if there is, i'
sure most of us will want to be in it...   so i was thinking maybe we could
all just meet each other in line by bogart's, and then do and after-show thing
if anyone is interested... i know they did something similar for cleveland's
show.  but i realize it'll be a sunday night, so i don't know if anyone will
be interested or not...   any input?

my name is lisa, (weenracer... i've been on the list for about three years),
and i'd love to meet some of you guys...  so, in case anyone cares, i'll be
wearing black flare-leg pants, an army-green t-shirt, black and brown
airwalks, and a green "cartman" (south park) baseball cap.  i'll be with a
couple of friends, and i'll be in pretty early, if there is one, (if there
isn't, we'll be walking around shopping until we see one start to form... so
either way, i'll be near the front of the line, hopefully)...  so come on up
and say "hi"...   i hope we can all meet up!   see ya'll there!!!

two days to go!!!
:) :) :)  lisa

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sorry for the nigc, but i'm desperate...i know that there was supposed to be
an all star cafe built in orlando somewhere, but i can't find any ifo as to
whether it's open yet or what...if anybody knows anything about this please
write...i'm going to fl in a week and if it's open my g/f and i are going to
take her son there...

thanks!

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 10:43:53 pdt
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insanity:
i've looked aaaall over the web and absolutely cannot find lyrics to
jane siberry's "flirting is a flow thing."  it's not even mentioned on
her album discography. (although i could not find song titles/lyrics to
anything on a day in the life, so it very well could be on there).
begging request #1:
does anybody know the lyrics and can post them?

random info:
and ooh ooh thalia zedek!!  that cool song she does (pale light), where
she howls, "don't taaaalk to meeeee," in case anyone (besides me) is
interested, is a song she wrote a while ago with her band at the time,
uzi.  it's on their album sleep asylum, which is available at cdnow and
amazon.com (don't yell at me for being all corporate, i've just searched
for over 2 hours and couldn't find it anywhere else... in this country
at least).
begging request #2:
could someone pleeese get a photograph of her for me?  please please
please.  i'll kiss your feet if you do me this favor...

random stupidity from my brain-o-archives:
have you done your homework and found biographies on these musicians?
maybe it just takes little to amaze me, but i'm bowled over that so many
of these rocking women are my mother's age (the divine miss zedek
included).  g'damn.  i wanna be that freaking cool.  <sniffle>  jane's
what, 41? thalia i'm guesstimating to be 39?  gail ann's gotta be
somewhere in bowie's ballpark, so go figure. jean smith's group mecca
normal has been around-- or at least making albums-- since 1986. and
lisa germano played violin way back when for john cougar melonhead, for
chrissake.  they've really been there and absolutely done *that*...
which is a nice transition into what i transcribed today, off the
acoustic cafe broadcast:...

the new lyrics to go ("the suffragette song"):
-------
through the dust or through the debt
grandma was a suffragette
black lipstick for her publication
black lipstick for my generation
i said go, go, go

chorus:
raise your hands, raise your hands high
don't take a seat, don't stand aside
this time, don't assume anything,
just go, go, go

don't feed the fire and fan the flames
i know the kids can stand the rain
i know the kids are still upsetters
cause rock is cool, but the struggle is better
i said go, go, go

chorus

did they tell you it was set in stone?
that you'd end up alone?
use your years to psych you out
you're too old to care, you're too young to count

did they tell you you would come undone
if you tried to touch the sun?
undermine the underground
you're too old to care, you're too young to count
go, go, go
--------

begging request #3:
could someone send me, or post, the lyrics to tengo la vida, along with
the phonetic pronunciations for those of us glaringly white folks (hi,
marivel)  who don't know how to speak spanish worth a dime?

begging request #4:
anyone going to sunday's cincinnati show, please email me so that we can
ensure that this thing gets booted.  i need to know who has booting
equipment and isn't afraid to use it ;)

begging request #5:
calling willis, calling willis... mr. drummond here.  bethany perry,
freaking email me right here, right now, i gots to talk to yous.  now.
i mean it, chicky.
that's it for now.

lovies,
jill

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sounds like a parody to me :)

gina

karen frey wrote:

> did this really happen?  this year?  this is the first i heard of it!
> please someone, fill me in!
>
> love, karen
>
> > the second season of the much ballyhooed lilith fair concert
> > festival, featuring such folk and light rock artists as sarah
> > mclachlan,
> >  natalie merchant, paula cole, and the indigo girls, was  interrupted
> > last
> >  night  in san antonio by the surprise and raucous appearance of david
> > lee
> >  roth, original singer for the heavy metal supergroup van halen.
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in a message dated 98-08-28 11:41:47 edt, you write:

<<
okay,
         i know there has been a dozen posts about getting a
tape of this show, but i think i deleted tehm all, ao if
some kind soul would let me know how i can get a copy of
the show i would be forever indebted.  i can't get it here.
ahhhhhhhhhhh!


thanks,
karen 8-)
>>


i second karen's post.  i would love to have a copy.  it doesn't broadcast
anywhere near me!  :-(  boo hoo.   so if someone is booting this please let me
know.

lynn   :-)   <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">tahmehawk's
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while on the subject of boots...i would love to have some.  i have been a fan
for almost 10 years and have only one boot.  if anyone could help, please let
me know.  i would be more then willing to send a blank...or trade what i have
which is hte from albany.

thanks in advance,
erin sue

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so then, walking out of the theater on wednesday in chicago, overheard:
"well, i guess it was good, even if they did only play one indigo girls
song."
i can only pray that they were referring to power of two. because then at
least it wouldn't be like the people karen heard saying something about
midnight train being an ig song.

but, before anyone flames me, i know they played more ig than pot. that's
my point. see? not that most people should know that go, sister and em's
new one are ig songs, i just found it amusing. although the ig
songs were pretty obvious (being the ones that ig sang lead vocals for and
being in their style...) even my bf picked out sister as definitely an ig
song, and he ain't on the list reading the lyrics and hearing about the
new songs all the time. though he does hear ig quite a bit...
thanks for reading (if you did)

k-bye!
kristi
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p.s. oh yeah! who smokes pot at the suffragette sessions? i found that
kind of odd, but maybe that's perfectly normal...

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cutie patooties ~ this is chapter two ~ 9:30 club....  and
it do it get better?  you betcha!  i met an awesome listee,
tara lane, who's in the band, in clover. i gots her cd,
which i got autographed!!!!  well, im like a reeeelly
hardcore indigo girls worshiper, so other music usually
pales in comparison.  but hot damn, when i listened to
tara's cd... woooo hooooo!!!. it was rrroockkkin'! and im
like going nuts cuz the bestest part is that tara's one of
us! and on her cd cover she writes sweet words about amy &
emily.  tara's bin working her hoo hoo off to get signed
wiff daemon records. wanna know more,
www.onsitenet.net/inclover. (tara's berry cute!) it's always
wonnerful to meet young women like tara, who are talented,
determined, intelligent, and sweet.
pootie hugs, bar


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hey peeps...

i know a lot of people want the acoustic cafe thing.  i am willing to tree
it if there are lots of you.  but i need to know how many people are
interested so i can gauge the number of branches i would need.  thus, those
who are willing to become branches, email me.  those who want a copy but
cant be a branch email me anyways so i know.  hmmm, i'll know by the end of
this weekend the rest of the details.

the other thing is...my copy is pretty decent right now.  but, if i can
somehow download the radio program onto my hard drive as one gigantic wav
file (or the like) the sound would be even better because my boot does not
give the real show the justice it deserves.  i want it as a wav file so i
can put master it onto cdr format.

soooo, does anyone know how to download it as a file??  the real audio
thing just lets me listen to it but not latch onto it as a file.  is there
a way for me to get around it?  i also am not familiar with the wavmaker on
my new puter, but i'm gonna go play around and see what i can do with it.
any help would be greatly appreciated....

one more thing.  deb's boot of merriweather lilith is kickass, imho (hi
deb!).  thus, if you havent gotten it yet...get it (contact your branch).
its worth the "whats goin on" encore...(marvin gaye rocks).

alrighty.  someone out there can help me with the wavfile situation....
---sue

p.s.  to those i owe tapes to, i'll get them to you.  i am taking this
weekend off to become sane again after one hellish week of finals.  thanks. :)

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lynn--
  i'm booting and youve been added :)

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okay, so why don't we do this, look for each other while in line?  i think
i'll make a big sign that says nigc (hehehe, like the people on tuesday in
chicago).  come on over and say hi.  i know a lot of ya, but i'm sure i'll
meet some new people.

love,
karen :-)

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jill posted the lyrics to go, & most of them were correct, but some
weren't, so i thought i'd post the right ones.  i managed to get a copy of
amy's hand written lyrics & chords (thanks, steph! :), & here's what they
say:

verse 1:
through the dustbowl through the debt
grandma was a suffragette
blacklisted for her publication
["black lipstick" was a funny mr. limes though! :) ]
blacklisted for my generation
go, go, go

chorus:
raise your hands raise your hands high
don't take a seat don't stand aside
this time don't assume anything just
go, go, go

verse 2:
so feed the fire and fan the flame
i know the kids can stand the rain
i know you kids are still upsetters
cause rock is cool, but the struggle is better
i said go, go, go

[the last two verses aren't on here, so i don't know how right they are.]

the chords are:

verses:  e/f#  g/a  a/b  c/d
go go go: c/d (with g bass)  e/f#  g/a
chorus: am/bm  em/f#m  g/a
        am/bm  em/f#m
        d/e  c/d

i hope that made sense! :)

andi

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to everyone who's doing ani/ig 2:1s with me..i forgot to tell ya'll i
only use maxell xlii tapes or tdk sas. they have to be high bias. you
can find these anywhere. they're just big black tapes. they'll say high
bias. if they say for normal, everyday recording, then you know it's
wrong. if you don't send high bias, then i'll just send you your blank
tapes back! :)

for anyone who doesn't know what i'm talking about and is reading this
i'm doing 2:1s only for the ani difranco roseland boot that has when
doves cry on it! anyone who wants can do this..email me for details!

*hugs*

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jill wrote:
> black lipstick for her publication
> black lipstick for my generation

this is "blacklisted..."

thanks for this line: use your years to psych you out

i thought it was "use your fears" (which i like better) but "use your
years" makes sense with the next line so you're right. :) not sure how i
even heard "fears" now that i listen to it again.

i miss the "i am a problem child/i've been wild all my days" bit but the
song is awesome, i listened to it several times last night with real audio.

if anyone else wants to hear it the 22 minute acoustic cafe interview is
over at http://www.mlive.com/cafe/  you can slide the lever on your real
audio program over to the 18:35 minute mark to catch "go" if that's all you
want to hear. (yuck, i just tried it again to find the time "go" starts and
i got a "net congestion" pause every 15 seconds. you might want to wait til
off-peak hours to try this. i listened to all 22 minutes around 2am and it
was smooth the entire time.)

kristina

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i got an annoucement ahem!  first, i'd like to be a branch for accoustic
cafe, second, most important, welcome nancy to the list.  she's a
midwesterner, do we have many of those?  picked her up on a golf forum,
an ig fan, and she's got some awesome pictures of amy and emily that i
sent her from bethlehem.

hey karen2, did you get them developed yet?

love, karen

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---swamp ophelia <jillyc@hotmail.com> wrote:
> and ooh ooh thalia zedek!!
> begging request #2:
> could someone pleeese get a photograph of her for me?  please please
> please.  i'll kiss your feet if you do me this favor...

hey jill.  if you go to http://www.matador.recs.com/bands/come/qrt.html
you'll find two pics of thalia.  erin aka jen :)
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> and ooh ooh thalia zedek!!
> begging request #2:
> could someone pleeese get a photograph of her for me?  please please
> please.  i'll kiss your feet if you do me this favor...

hey jill.  if you go to http://www.matador.recs.com/bands/come/qrt.html
there are two pics of thalia.  erin aka jen :)
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anybody know how to real audio files using real audio 5 and the new beta
version? i can't get acoustic cafe around here and would like to save it
(perhaps to cd) in case they decide to stop having links on their page of old
shows...

right now i'm listening a&e...they are so cool :)

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at 01:56 pm 8/28/98 , sue kwan <skwan@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>the other thing is...my copy is pretty decent right now.  but, if i can
>somehow download the radio program onto my hard drive as one gigantic wav
>file (or the like) the sound would be even better because my boot does not
>give the real show the justice it deserves.  i want it as a wav file so i
>can put master it onto cdr format.
>
>soooo, does anyone know how to download it as a file??  the real audio
>thing just lets me listen to it but not latch onto it as a file.  is there
>a way for me to get around it?  i also am not familiar with the wavmaker on
>my new puter, but i'm gonna go play around and see what i can do with it.
>any help would be greatly appreciated....

it's so easy i can't belive it took me so long to figure it out!  just take
the plug from the back of your speakers, insert it into the "line in" of
your recorder, and presto!  works like a champ.  and with the latest g2
realaudio player, you can even use the equalizer to balance some of the
tinny-ness of a .ram file.  just make sure you have a good net connection
so you don't get static from network buffering.

>one more thing.  deb's boot of merriweather lilith is kickass, imho

;-)  thanks!

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everyone at the chicago show keeps saying something about:
>during the flirting is a flow thing deal--jane put amy on the spot and
she
>leaned over to emily and they had a little conference as to what she
>should do. i thought that was really cute and then i laughed really
hard
>when she said "115, you are 17, ..."

will you tell us the whole story, not just bits?  what exactly
transpired on stage? (ex: jane asked emily what she should do... about
what? and she *who* said the '115' line?)

lost and confused
jill

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 18:29:08 -0500
reply-to:     kristin marie wade <kmwade@midway.uchicago.edu>
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on fri, 28 aug 1998, swamp ophelia wrote:

> everyone at the chicago show keeps saying something about:
> >during the flirting is a flow thing deal--jane put amy on the spot and
> she
> >leaned over to emily and they had a little conference as to what she
> >should do. i thought that was really cute and then i laughed really
> hard
> >when she said "115, you are 17, ..."
>
> will you tell us the whole story, not just bits?  what exactly
> transpired on stage? (ex: jane asked emily what she should do... about
> what? and she *who* said the '115' line?)
>
> lost and confused
> jill
>
here i thought i was clearing things up, but i was just making it more
confusing. alright, then.
so here's what happened:
jane was doing this song with the chorus "flirting is a flow thing" and
then the "verses" were just random improv things. so jane would call on a
person and the person would say what ever they wanted:what flirting was or
whatever they wanted at all; any melody, spoken word, anything; complete
improv. so jane called on lourdes and lourdes asked several times if we
wanted it in english or spanish...and then jane would sing the
chorus...and then she said "amy ray" and amy looked all embarrassed and
she just kind of stood there and then she went and had a conference with
emily (quick conference, but enough to keep us in suspense), and then went
to the mic and said "115, you are 17, itchy trigger, venomous...the days
are longer as we grow stronger, you shed your skin baby, now shed this"
and then jane went back in to the chorus "flirting is a flow thing"
so that's it. i hope. sorry for causing more confusion. but thanks for
pointing out that i was confusing!

k-bye!
kristi
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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 18:29:43 -0500
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hmmm..i was right up to the stage and remember amy asking emily say..now
what..then she went to the mike and it sounded like she said..i was 15, you
were 17.....and then smirked...and then everyone laughed so i couldn't hear
anything else....
any other thoughts???
i know emily didn't tell her to say anything but she laughed at her
pridicament and looked relieved that she wasn't chosen..wouldn't look at
jane the rest of the tune

swamp ophelia wrote:

> everyone at the chicago show keeps saying something about:
> >during the flirting is a flow thing deal--jane put amy on the spot and
> she
> >leaned over to emily and they had a little conference as to what she
> >should do. i thought that was really cute and then i laughed really
> hard
> >when she said "115, you are 17, ..."
>
> will you tell us the whole story, not just bits?  what exactly
> transpired on stage? (ex: jane asked emily what she should do... about
> what? and she *who* said the '115' line?)
>
> lost and confused
> jill
>
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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 16:40:56 pdt
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>jill wrote:
>> black lipstick for her publication
>> black lipstick for my generation
>
>this is "blacklisted..."

hee, i like my version better ;)
must be all this punk rock on the brain-- makes sense that way!  oops.

i'm also thinking the one line is "they're too old to care, you're too
young to count."

let's hear it for mr. limes--
jill

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 19:44:34 -0600
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~~jennifer
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
straight up, what did you hope to learn about here?
if i was someone else, would this all fall apart?
strange, where were you when we started this gig?
i wish the real world would just stop hassling me.
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hey all you new york list members!

this just in:

the september 3rd suffragette sessions tour that was to be held at roseland
has now moved!

it is now at irving plaza, the place where the slam was held in the spring.

i am not sure why this change took place, but rock on nyc!

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 20:14:49 edt
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i'm mighty pissed off, chickies and dudes.....i only caught the last part of
the last song...ani! and see, that was the first opportunity i've ever had to
hear her....and i just know i'm missing out! so....anyway, i really liked what
i heard....anyone know what that was called, first? second, darlings, anyone
have a clue when vh1 is rerunning this? puh-leeeeeze?!?

okay, thanks.
and let me just say, that ani chicky is one hot tamale!

vale, groovy amicae et amici!
luv yas,
eri

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 17:38:24 pdt
reply-to:     lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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ok...so here's the deal. i dubbed a video for this chick who i didn't
know at the time is very very picky. it's got:

ani difranco-little plastic castle: letterman
fiona apple misc. lilith '97 interview
sarah mclachlan-sweet surrender: saturday night live
lilith fair-sarah mclachlan and friends the cbc special (97)
(this has a few sarmc songs, meredith brooks: bitch, a few ig songs
including wiw, shawn colvin-sunny came home..other stuff)
sarmc-sweet surrender: leno
sarmc-adia: letterman
lilith 1998 press conference
various 1997 lilith clips from vh1
grammy special (all things featuring sarmc)
sarmc-angel: storytellers the lost songs

this video varries in quality which is why she gave it back to me! :p
the quality on the letterman/adia is only b-, vh1 messed up during part
of the press conference and you can't see the announcer you can only
hear what she's saying (which in my opinion is a plus *l*) that lasts
for about 10 seconds and it's just a black screen. overall the video is
a-/b+ quality. most of it is pretty good. it really pissed me off cuz i
had to take this stuff from several different tapes, and it took me
hours to make, i put a lot of effort into it (i sent her a really nice
in-color (with pictures)listing of everything on the tape which she
decided to keep)

so basically i put a lot of work into this video which is of no use to
me because i have it all already! so here's the deal. i want to trade it
for a couple audio boots! i don't want to do a 2:1 video, i don't want
to sell it to anyone, i don't want anyone to just send me postage! i
want to trade it. if anyone is interested in it let me know. it really
isn't that bad..it just varries depending on what chanel i taped it off
of, etc.

*hugs*

lamia


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hey, chicas y chicos!
so here i am, listening to my new meredith brooks cd....and i'm hearing
"shatter"....my favorite lyrics on the cd are.......

"saved by the sun, no shame on me...."

now, who can guess why? :-)

hm....thinkest thou we might have a fan on our hands?

vale, groovy amicis!
eri
"saved by the sun, no shame on me..."
-the demigoddess meredith brooks, "shatter"
"hold on to nothing as fast as you can...."
-the demigoddess tori amos, "pretty good year"
"i believe this is heaven to no one else but me....."
-the goddess sarah mclachlan, "elsewhere" (my bible of sorts)
"i am looking for someone who can take as much as i give, give back as much as
i need, you know and they still have the will to live..."
-the goddess amy ray, "blood and fire"
"for everything i learn, there are two i don't understand..."
-the goddess emily saliers, "it's alright"

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hi ig lovers!

i have a couple questions for all you knowledgeable folk:

1.  i've just had the opportunity to listen to the amy compilation tape
(thanks pam!) all the way through and, my goodness, but i really like"
forgiveness".  question is, has she sung this much lately?  and will it be
on the next cd - as far as anyone knows, of course?  :-)

2.  have any of you heard/thought about "mystery" maybe being emily's
reflections on her relationship with amy?  she could be describing herself
and amy when she describes her heart as "bright sun" and "your" heart as
"dark moon".  and "standing at opposite poles,equal partners in a mystery"
really sounds like a description of their incredible partnership.  i
realize, of course, that they draw inspiration for their songs from many
sources and i could really be reaching for meaning here...

any thoughts welcomed.  if any/all of this has been discussed before,
please do forgive me!

have a great weekend all - especially those of you seeing ss!!!
thanks.  aj

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the cleveland plain dealer

suffragette sessions tour
audience fails to appreciate inspired all-female program
by anastasia pantsios

08/25/98

it seemed as if a significant minority of the sold-out audience at the odeon
saturday night missed the spirit and intent of the suffragette sessions tour
organized by indigo girls amy ray and emily saliers.

ray's and saliers' idea was to take even further the lilith fair concept of
assembling a tour of women-fronted, mostly commercial-leaning acts: they
cobbled together a flexible troupe featuring women of wildly disparate
musical leanings. each would pick three songs and the other players she
wanted to perform with her.

what happened in reality was that a sort of large band took shape. most of
the women were on stage most of the time, many shifting comfortably between
instruments. while mecca normal's jean smith and come's thalia zedek handled
most of the guitars, along with ray and saliers (there were often four
guitars cranking), zedek also switched to clarinet for some songs. jane
siberry and lisa germano were the utility players, switching between
keyboards, accordion, violin and mandolin.

some of the odeon's audience members didn't get it - there was quite a bit
of grumbling because the indigo girls did not play many of their hits. in
spite of that, ray, saliers and the eight other musicians they gathered
together for this show were a revelation and an inspiration.

they showed that there isn't anything in rock music women can't do
effectively. anchored by a potent rhythm section, featuring luscious
jackson's kate schellenbach on drums and ex-breeder josephine wiggs on bass
(she played both electric and acoustic, and was joined by gail ann dorsey
for a double bass punch on a number of songs), the group rocked its way
through about two dozen tunes that ranged from the acoustic-flavored,
spanish-language contributions of lourdes perez to the sullen, indie-blues
of thalia zedek with her beautifully
ravaged voice.

jean smith did a solo a cappella piece, while ray and saliers, seemingly
thrilled to have so much feminine talent around them, made full use of most
of the group for thickly-arranged versions of indigo girls songs such as
"power of two" and "go." germano's delicate lilt provided a contrast to the
rawer vocals of zedek. and david bowie touring bassist dorsey added crisp,
steely soul to her immaculately sung tunes, which included a sensitive cover
of bowie's "ziggy stardust," the final encore of the show.

perhaps the most impressive performance was that of jane siberry, a sort of
canadian laurie anderson whose exploration of the potential of music and
lyrics goes well beyond that of most pop artists. she made full of use of
the sonic textures available to her to embellish "love is everything," which
featured the exhilarating, multivoiced
harmonies that ran throughout most of the show - clearly a large part of the
onstage bonding involved lifting voices in communal song.+

siberry closed the pre-encore show with a captivating version of gladys
knight and the pips' "midnight train to georgia."

beyond the sheer range of the women's musical gifts, what was most thrilling
to observe was the strong individual aura each exuded. if jean smith's heavy
sarcasm and ironic, rock-god posturing on guitar got a little heavy-handed,
it was balanced by siberry's centered, glowing vibe, and saliers' earnest
enthusiasm.

hopefully, some of the young women in attendance, who gave ray and saliers
such a deafening ovation when they walked on at the beginning of the show,
saw beyond their disappointment in not hearing "closer to fine" and came to
appreciate the onstage diversity and passion that made today's parade of
matchbox 20 clones seem superfluous.

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 11:55:38 -0700
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subject:      re: lilith tour touche (fwd)
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karen,

  i'm sure you're a wonderful person but three syllables come to
mind-gul-li-ble:)
ben

----------ben slavin----------------
l                                  l
l " make me into something         l
l  weightless, mindless, homeless, l
l  vacuum state of peace.          l
l   - k's choice"                  l
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i needed someone to listen in the language i needed to speak. thank you all.

"i could go crazy on a night like tonight" but, hey, "i've got nothing to
hide" so "kind
friend help me forget where i've been."  michelle left me on july 22, 1995.
i'm
dying.  i need you to "rub your hands across my head", "now reverse"  michelle
said
she wanted to break up after 10 perfect years, but all i heard was "i do not
feel the
romance"  and i thought "your heart like a stone"  i begged, "touch me" as she
left and
i yelled"it's not worth it if you don't."  her look back at me said "there's
nothing left
between us."  i cried why does my love destroy you?" "you set up your place in
my
thoughts and made my thinking crowded."  now i'm left with "the heart of a
skeptic
and the mind of a child."  i have to ask "so, what is love then, is it
dictated or chosen"?
she just quit "and it made me feel like hell".  i wanted to scream "you hurt
my
feelings."  michelle "are you aware of the fire b3n3qth your feet"?  "did you
try to be
true"?  now, "i'm looking for a sacred hand" to "let your waters, let me
drown".
"i've asked for providence to smile upon me" "and it bled upon my sleeve."
"this
place is of the dark".  i am "still water".  i know "one and one make one"
"so
leave" everyone!  "go home"  except michelle, "come with me, it's not worth it
if
you don't."  michelle, our love i'll be "the last to set it free."  please
"kind friend, help
me forget where i've been."  i'm begging "let your waters, let me drown."
thanks for
listening!  "maybe give me insight"

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 18:16:46 -0500
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hi y'all!

we're only going to post highlights, since the show was mostly the same as
other reviews (doesn't mean we'll keep it short!  :-}  ).  the set list
basically the same as chicago and cleveland.

opening act:  shonen knife was, well,... cute.  that's all we'll say there.

suffragettes:  during initial introductions, jane siberry tried to have
each band member name a few hobbies that they like to do, but the rowdy,
impatient crowd only let 3 poeple say their thing (this was a sign of
things to come).  it was a nice idea, though, it made the musicians seem
that much more like ordinary people (which of course, they are, but we fans
get distorted perceptions sometimes...).

we got to the rave early to get a good spot on the floor, and throughout
the show we managed to inch forward to the second row (of sardines)!!!  it
was definitely a club atmosphere.  we could see everyone except kate, whose
face was behind a cymbal the whole time!  :(

the crowd was rowdy, which was both good and bad.  some rude people were
shouting "indigo girls" when a non-ig person was just about to sing lead on
something.  rose polenzani kept trying to start her solo piece, which
starts really quiet, but the crowd wouldn't let her for a while.  it
sounded like appreciative "woo-hooo's", but rose is kind of shy, and seemed
to be having a hard time with it.  amy helped her out, though (she was
playing 'big sister' to rose, it was really sweet).  jane told some poeple
to shut up towards the end of the show during a quieter song.  but a&e &
the others did have a sense of humor about the noise.  someone yelled
"romeo and juliet", and they were like, "romeo who?... isn't that a
shakespeare play or something?...why would we do that?..." jean smith
really enjoyed the rowdy thing--she said, both on and off stage, that she's
definitely coming back to milwaukee.  we did get quiet on some songs, and
sang along on po2 and cannonball, so we weren't all bad.

jean and thalia did some way-out, rockin' guitar stuff, kind of in their
own little world, but a&e joined them from time to time.  kate rocked the
whole time (ok, i'm partial to drummers!), and lourdes joined her on
another drum set for some songs.  on one song, amy was back in the
percussion section, obviously messing around in unfamiliar territory--she
kept missing the china cymbal, which was kind of far away for her, and
occasionally missing the beat, too.  it was cute--she was having fun.  some
of you have commented that amy doesn't connect with the crowd much, or
smile much, but i think she's just very serious about the music, and maybe
technical stuff, too.  the percussion was like a break for her.  before
that, she did smile and point at someone who shouted something (like maybe
"i love you, amy" or something).  emily was all smiles the whole time, esp.
on the pumped-up version of po2.  this crowd especially liked lourdes'
songs--they kept shouting, "mas espanol!".

we particularly appreciated lisa germano's solos, though it was also cool
to see her diverse instrumental talents.  gail, jane, lourdes, thalia,
lisa--all great vocalists.  also the little "extras", like keyboard riffs,
double guitars, double drums, thalia's way-out clarinet riffs, lots of
vocal harmony--that's what made this show special.  you couldn't do a lot
of that with your standard 3-piece or 5-piece band.

and, of course, a&e wouldn't come to milwaukee without jamming with mrs.
fun!  connie grauer (mrs. fun's vocalist/keyboardist) played keyboard on
one song.  then after the suffragette show, connie joined mrs. fun drummer
kim zick for a show in the lounge, which was off to the side from the main
stage area.  after a while, emily, lourdes, and thalia, and eventually amy
& all the rest of them, came and watched mrs. fun.  this was better than an
autograph for us--to see the girls hanging out with the rest of us--and we
didn't have to drive to georgia to witness this phenomenon!  we watched as
they walked to their bus and told them "great show", and "thanks for coming
to milwaukee".  they were really cool about it, though they didn't hang
around to talk, but jean smith gave us all hugs, and sulli was hanging
around talking to people.

we had a great time!

barbara b. & lia g.  (formerly barbarab@megsinet.net)

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 21:53:02 -0400
reply-to:     karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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here you go!

love, k

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subject: sarah update for this week

hi!  another sunny friday in vancouver.  the weekend looks good.  sunny
skies and warm temps are in the for cast for saturday, sunday and monday.
: )

lilith tour nearly complete!
well, the final days of the lilith fair 1998 tour are fast approaching.
the crew is in calgary today at mcmahon stadium.  it will remain in the
province of alberta for one more show this weekend when it travels to
edmonton for a performance at the commonwealth stadium on saturday
(aug.29th).  the final show will be taking place right here in vancouver on
monday (aug.31st), where the nettwerk gang will be there to enjoy the show,
as well as greet the return of the lilith crew at thunderbird stadium on
that day. (yippie!!!! )

for those of you attending lilith fair on its last dates here in
canada, here are some further last minute options you might want to check
out:

for those of you in edmonton, catch buffy at 12pm on *saturday, aug. 29th*
at the chapters bookstore located at 3327 calgary trail south.  you'll also
have a chance to meet lilith performers mae moore and lin elder, who will
both be taking part in an in-store performance before heading off to lilith
fair at the commonwealth stadium.  for those of you in vancouver, catch
buffy at the brand new chapters on the corner of robson and howe in
downtown vancouver at 7pm  on *sunday, aug. 30th*. you'll also have a
chance to meet lilith performers yve and adam, and tami greer, who will be
doing a preview performance of monday's final lilith fair date.

also, for those interested, check out the madrigal press web site, as it
now has an audio clip of an interview with buffy childerhose talking about
the book.

other lilith acts live:
nettwerk artists the wild strawberries, performing on the
second stage for the last three lilith shows, will be taking part in some
in-store performances at specific starbuck's locations at the following
locations and times:
* calgary, ab -  aug.28th - 1pm / starbuck's @ 2223 4th st. sw *
* edmonton, ab - aug.29th - 12pm / starbuck's @ 10387-12th st. nw *
* vancouver, bc - aug.31st - 12pm / starbuck's @ 1015 denman st. *

so if you have a chance to check out the band, be sure to drop by these
locations to check out the strawbs before they head off to lilith! make
sure you have a frapp for me! ; )

a big thank you:
and finally, thanks from all the staff here at nettwerk, and myself, for
making this year's lilith fair another great success! give yourself a pat
on the back! (and if necessary, visit your chiropractor immediately
afterwards.) i should note too that the sarah posts may be less frequent
now that the tour is over, but we'll see what happens once september hits.
maybe we'll see some of you at the show here on monday in vancouver! i'll
be the one with the keyboard still attached to my fingers. ;)

murmurs issue 10:
we have completed murmurs issue 10 and those of you who belong to the fan
club currently will receive it soon. as soon as we get it in-house we will
be doing a mail out.  (it is my first issue of murmurs and i am quite proud
of it.  i can't wait for you all to see it!)


that's it for this week.  have a wonderful, sunny weekend!
until next time, adieu!

jennifer

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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 22:07:19 edt
reply-to:     memememi@aol.com
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i'm kind of surprised that more people haven't mentioned this...........
there are *tons* of pictures and video clips on the lilith fair site.  just go
to the "dates" and choose each day.   for example - the july 21st site has
about 8 or so video clips just with ig alone......... including a video clip
of "gone again" and everyone singing "happy birthday" to emily.   it takes a
while to download each one, but they're pretty cool when you get them.

the main lilith fair page address is:  http://www.lilithfair.com/

=)
lisa

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date:         sat, 29 aug 1998 12:24:03 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

first of all - just a reminder, please don't quote other
peoples' entire messages when replying to the list.  thanks.
people on the digest have to scroll through all your quoted
text every time this happens...

also, if people with long signatures (ie more than a few
lines), please consider either shortening your sigs or
turning then off when posting to the list.  again, people
on digest have to scroll through your sig every time you
post...

lastly - i've been having isp problems lately and i'm also
really busy, so i have been/will probably continue to be
for a little while at least, a little behind in my mail.
i will try to keep up with all the admin stuff as always
but if you're mailing me about other stuff, i might be a bit
slow...

speaking of being busy, gotta go.  be good everyone - :)

happy happy,
sherlyn
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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 22:46:27 -0400
reply-to:     elaine bean <efbean@erols.com>
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hi - sorry if this has been answered, but i just skimmed the last 15
digests or so and wasn't paying close attention -
not too long ago, someone asked if that song amy sings "heartache
central time",  was an original composition, and if not, then who wrote
it?  was this question ever addressed?  does anyone know the answer?
i'm curious too.  it's one of my favorites (but i say that about all
their songs)

elaine

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hey y'all-
   i  was wondering, how long is the ss set?
also:
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they
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hey y'all-
  i  was wondering, how long is the ss set?
also:
did anyone see the ani thing on vh-1?  i missed it!  does anyone know if they
will be repeating it soon?
lauren


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date:         fri, 28 aug 1998 23:29:15 edt
reply-to:     tcheehill@aol.com
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i'm looking to start a bootleg collection.  does this require wearing a
microphone?  or can i simply buy some?  that might be illegal, but how do i
start a collection without anything to trade for it?
-chee

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