lifeblood: listlogs: 1998-09a


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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 14:01:31 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

the message below was sent to the news list but it's more
appropriate for here instead... replies to karrie at
karrie@ncinter.net, thanks...

-sherlyn
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date: mon, 31 aug 1998 23:37:28 -0500
from: karrie <karrie@ncinter.net>
to: ig news <ig-news@smoe.org>
subject: a request

i am looking to see if anyone taped the simulcast of the detroit
suffragette sessions.  a station in windsor, on, broadcast the concert,
from what i have been told, and i would really like to have a copy of
it.


any information is appreciated.

thanks-

karrie
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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 00:24:04 edt
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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 00:30:53 edt
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hey there... marilyn5 (they opened at slam!) has a gig the night before the
suff sessions in nyc... check this girl out... her band is awesome...great
music, nice warm-up for suff sessions the following day :)

marilyn 5
live at the bitter end this wednesday 9/2 at 9:30pm
147 bleecker street nyc

hope to see you there!
     dawn-michelle

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date:         mon, 31 aug 1998 22:23:22 pdt
reply-to:     alicia bender <rainbowgirl69@hotmail.com>
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okay, sorry people but i've been busy moving and recovering from a
surgery and a car crash so i deleted the huge stack of digests i got.
is there any way someone would be kind enough to send me the lyrics or
post the lyrics to "gone again" for me?  i'd really appreciate it!
thanks,
lee.

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date:         mon, 31 aug 1998 22:19:07 -0700
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hey y'all.  i was just looking around on the internet trying to find
out what this detroit suffragette sessions being aired on a windsor,
on radio station that karrie mentioned was about.  i didn't find
anything on that yet..but i did find a windsor, on radio station site,
89x, and they have lots of live shows and interviews that you can
listen to.  some of them are dar williams, ani difranco, tara maclean,
rebekah, buffalo daughter, lisa germano, luscious jackson, sarah
mclachlan, abra moore, and sister 7.  i know lots of y'all like these
people so i thought you might be interested in knowing about this.  i
think that you need to have real player to be able to hear it..but i'm
not sure, so check it out.  i'm sorry if this has already been
mentioned to the list before.  i'm sort of a newbie..or whatever you
want to call it.  this is the site:
http://www.89x.com/jamlinks/venue.asp
just click archives to get to the people i mentioned above.

erin :)


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date:         mon, 31 aug 1998 22:53:31 pdt
reply-to:     swamp ophelia <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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subject:      em's eyes speak volumes ("but what are they *saying*?")
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>a) meet all of us after the show for a beer.
>
>b) are you stalking us?
>
>c) my room number is 115....
>
>d) all of the above
>
>e) none of the above

f) none o'yo biz-niss.  just kidding.  she was damn happy.  i don't know
why.  i can't explain this either.  and i didn't post it before cause i
don't like posting stupid "ohmigosh-i-connected-with-the-girls!!!"
moments.  but here you go.  they came out and were singing under your
skin.  i was singing along with them, "if at first it don't sink in,
wait'll it gets under your skin."  during that line, emily looked down
at me, and just locked eyes with me, wouldn't look away.  *i* looked
away, and when i looked back at her, her eyes were still on me. she
nodded real big, and smiled and smiled and smiled.  forever.  radiant.
hair blowing in the breeze from the fan at her feet. sang the line with
me, smiley as hell. now, don't get me wrong, i've had her *look* at me
before... you don't get front row for like a half dozen shows and not
get some contact.  but this was rather prolonged.  i was half-temped to
think she must've known someone standing behind me or something, and was
acknowledging them, but then everyone around me started patting me on
the shoulder and jostling me like, "eh, she's a-*smilin'* at'cha!".  so
i guess it *was* for me.  anyways.  it was just a night of general good
crowd-communication.  jane was all animated and goofy, she was taking
photos of the crowd; when she went to sing oh my my (the excerpt from
the 20-min. long song) and asked the crowd to be "a teeensy bit quiet,"
and they did not, i turned around and bellowed into the air, in my best
mafioso voice, "shut *up*, the *lady* is *trying* to sing," and jane
squeezed her eyes shut and laughed.  lisa liked the sign i made--
(lilith is to suffragette sessions
what kenny g. is to the pixies:
one kicks the bucket, the other kicks ass.)
and she waited to catch my eye to show me she was laughing pointedly at
it as she was supposed to be playing accordion behind gail ann.  jean
smith-- well hell, she's glaring at me by now, i keep staring at her
like some kamikaze ohioan child of the corn.  and hmmm, i wonder if
thalia heard what i was sayin' in her direction... hm.  anyways, it was
just great fun to interact like that.  so i just had the feeling that if
they were uncomfortable or unapproving of the big-mouthed italian chick
with the fuchsia-streaked hair in the front row booting their talent,
they would've just said so.

okie?
jill

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 02:07:52 edt
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sorry for posting this to the whole list...but i can't find everyone's
address...my room is a growing, moving mess...and only getting worse as i pack
boxes...

so, for all of you whom i got t-shirts for--don't fret they will be in the
mail, on their way this morning!!  well except for one *a-hem* you know who
you are...i'm still waiting for your check...i could only get larges...they
were all out of the others with the exception of one medium going to the lucky
woman who wanted the smallest size possible (of the top fo my head, i can't
remember who...)  so, don't fret, you should have them by friday...

peace and love,
kara.

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 11:15:52 +0100
reply-to:     sharon bell <njt21@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
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hi folks. back on the list after a month wandering around europe
(listening to world falls and going "oh yeah amy, i really dig that, i so
understand what you're trying to say"), nice to see that the list's as
active as ever...

anyway, the point. i was sitting on a rock at the shore in naples looking
at the sea and it occurred to me that emily is very into water imagery,
and i guess then amy is a fire person, so who takes air and earth? i
figure amy is earth and emily is air, but i don't have many lyrics i can
think of...

this is what happens when you don't see television for a month. i've been
thinking too hard about this haven't i?

sharon

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 08:39:25 edt
reply-to:     chance0631@aol.com
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subject:      re: ok nyc folks!  lets rock!!!
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okay all us non-nyc fans
do you feel babs enthusiasm is stinging just a bit?  you can see i'm green
with envy  :  )    have the time of your life babs and all going!

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 05:40:10 pdt
reply-to:     sala manderz <salamanderz@hotmail.com>
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karen posted the cincy set list from which i snipped:
>roll the dice
>gabrielle
>way below...radio

can anyone tell me which of these was the thalia zedek number? the one
where lisa g. played violin? i just fell madly in love with it as soon
as i heard it, and any info would be appreciated...please and thank
you...

manderz

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 05:52:48 pdt
reply-to:     sala manderz <salamanderz@hotmail.com>
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babs wrote:
> i voted, yes, but besides my fear that "kind friend" may
> be copywrited, either is fine with me.

to clarify: the lyrics to kind friend *are* protected by copyright, but
the phrase itself, as a title, isn't protected. it could be trademarked,
but it would have to be altered in some way--kindfriend, for example.
and trademarks are properly used as adjectives, modifying a generic
term--rollerblade in-line skates, for another example.

manderz <-----telling you more than you probably wanted to know ;-)

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 09:02:02 edt
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hi all...after a rather *busy* august which all you newbies/whatevers and my
6- tape offer, i can only say it has been a wonderful experience...so much
gratitude, jees :)  thanks for all your help in following directions and in
most cases taking those bothersome wrappers off all those tapes for
me...appreciated it...only one case where postage was not included..and i have
a letter out to that balitmore person..and only one case where i had to
substitute tape sizes but, generally, everybody got the program.

so this offer is closed until, oh, maybe the spring of '99.  the offer is now
open to all the ig fans in europe or outside the continental u.s. (places or
post office fears to tread, unless paid large sums of $).

i'm looking for people who want to set up a network so we can get the tapes to
as many as possible...some people in england and on the continent (i actually
heard from somebody in france....but lost her email...pls resend :) who want
to get copies and then make copies for others.

i am willing to make the copies here and send the tapes to our fans over there
only for the cost of shipping from here...a fact i will have to research at
the post office.
if they will set up and be able to copy the tapes for others in their near
vacinity.

so let me hear from some people in europe, whatever, who want to dub for their
fellow ig fans.

jude :)

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 09:40:13 -0400
reply-to:     the lovely erin <lovely@kenton.lib.ky.us>
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on mon, 31 aug 1998, l hayes wrote:

> > i heard it straight from an
> >absolutely huge jane fan that the one to get of her's is "maria",
> >if any of you are interested.
> >
> which i just went and bought about 3 hours ago.  it has that 20 minute
> song dealy on it, but i liked it the way she sang it last night better
> than how it's on the cd.  does anyone know if the one on "maria" is the
> same thing as on "child"?

nope ... all of "child" was recorded live, not in a studio.

tle
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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 07:47:45 -0600
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from:         carrie shafer <carebear@zianet.com>
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sharon bell wrote:

> hi folks. back on the list after a month wandering around europe
> (listening to world falls and going "oh yeah amy, i really dig that, i so
> understand what you're trying to say"), nice to see that the list's as
> active as ever...
>
> anyway, the point. i was sitting on a rock at the shore in naples looking
> at the sea and it occurred to me that emily is very into water imagery,
> and i guess then amy is a fire person, so who takes air and earth? i
> figure amy is earth and emily is air, but i don't have many lyrics i can
> think of...

how about "i felt the splitting earth echoing in my ears" (welcome me) for
amy and "pilot says the big blue sky's like a swimming pool" (airplane) for
emily?

hope the beauty keeps shaking you.  ;)

carrie

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 06:51:37 pdt
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hi!  i've been too busy lately to keep up with the list, but i did
notice that the last suff. show is soon, and i was wondering if some
kind soul would be willing to buy me a shirt from the show.  damn how i
hate living in the middle of nowhere!!!  i will gladly pay for the shirt
and postage, and i will also throw in a coupla boots if you'd like.


thanks!

lin

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 09:46:52 edt
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subject:      re: setlist abbreviations and cimarron definition

it's gabrielle.  it's awesome, and it's on the uzi cd.
it's about a woman.  :)


on mon, 31 aug 1998 20:43:26 pdt swamp ophelia <jillyc@hotmail.com>
writes:
>from the cincy setlist:
>>gabrielle
>i've seen this posted as gabriel (which would make it about a male, so
>the spelling is important here.. don't know which is right)

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 10:07:06 -0400
reply-to:     karen frey <karenfrey@redrose.net>
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does anyone know if there are any tickets left for this show?  i didn't
think i wanted to see the show because it wasn't the indigo girls, but
you guys are making me regret my choice!!

karen

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 08:05:06 -0600
reply-to:     "cusick, joanne - aurora, co" <joanne.cusick@cexp.com>
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hey dahlings...

i just have to add here... the connells rock my little world....  you
are guaranteed a fabulous show with lots of audience participation... i
saw them in denver and have been a fan for about 4 years..... go go
go!!! : )

much love to all

jo anne

> -----original message-----
> from: swamp ophelia [smtp:jillyc@hotmail.com]
> sent: monday, august 31, 1998 8:39 pm
> to:   indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject:      sigc: michelle penn band
>
> hey all--
>
> michelle penn, a friend of sulli's, is a musician...
> she'll be playing in michigan soon, go check her out.  carol and i
> talked to her after the detroit show, and she's sooo nice :).  and
> hey,
> how often do you hear the words "atlanta musician" and "bad" in the
> same
> sentence?  heh.  you got it.  go see her.
>
> >thursday, september 3
> >magic bag theater, ferndale, mi
> >doors @ 8 p.m.
> >opening for the connells
>
>
> jill
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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 10:25:24 -0400
reply-to:     indigo head <s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu>
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hi y'all!

well, i got the radio city music hall 1994 (also known as days of wine and
roses) boot.  and i got home and checked my boot collection and...oops, i
already have it!!!  but i listened to the tape that the lovely erin made,
and it sounds great!  so...i would like to trade it (not for a blank...for
a boot).  the setlist is:
world falls, virginia woolf, dead man's hill, power of two, reunion,
language or the kiss, center stage (!), least complicated, this train
revised, ghost, kid fears, galileo, southern man, closer to fine, it won't
take long (ferron cover), adam and eve (pete seeger cover) and god in
heaven (ellen james society cover).
the quality is very good.  if you are interesting in trading (trades
only!), please e-mail me so we can set something up!

love,
karen :-)

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 11:36:56 edt
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since the ig are pro peace, i thought this up...

a wise army smiles!
or, said a little differently:
a   yy  army smiles
(the above uses all the letters of their names)

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 08:51:34 pdt
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from the dan bern mailing list... (if you haven't yet discovered this
guy, do so *immediately*)...


>from: "dbhq" <danbern@gte.net>
>to: dbhq@garden.net

>hey bernheads!!!
>
>here's what's new in the world of dan!
>
>for three years, i did nothing except drive....
>
>here are dan's tour dates for the fall.... if any more are added, we'll
>let you know!
>
>9/05/98     hog farm                  laytonville, ca      (707)
984-8085
>
>9/06/98     hog farm                  laytonville, ca      (707)
984-8085
>
>11/12/98   fillius events barn     clinton, ny           (315) 859-4194
>
>11/13/98   the junction              gettysburg, pa     (717) 337-6304
>
>11/15/98   the birchmere            alexandria, va     (703) 549-5919
>
>11/17/98   tractor tavern             seattle, wa         (206)
789-4250
>
>11/20/98   st. john's church        berkeley, ca       (510) 548-1761
>
>i guess i needed to meditate.....
>
>do your meditation in front of the computer! because, thanks to the
>folk music lovin', isp extraordinare,  robert boyle, dbhq has a
>new web address, http://www.dbhq.com ! this site will be up and
>running within the next 24 hours. if you have any problems viewing
>the site, please try again in a few hours or go to our previous url,
>which is http://home1.gte.net/danbern/index.htm. you'll find tour
>dates, stories, merch, news and more. pages with guitar tabs and
>more dan photos are in the works, so keep checking back!
>
>also, we'd love to hear any feedback or suggestions about the page!
>
>while you're browsing the web, click on over to
>http://www.abc.com/music/ where you will find a great interview of
>dan. but hurry.... this article will probably only be up for another
>day or so, and you don't want to miss it!
>
>should have just gone into a monastery.....
>
>dan will be spending most of the fall in the studio recording his
>new cd! we expect that it will be out in the spring. in the
>meantime, we'll keep you updated!
>
>but they don't let you listen to talk radio....
>
>all of you bay area folks be sure to tune in tomorrow, 9/1/98.
>dan will be giving 2 separate interviews. at 2:30 pm, he'll be on
>khsu. at 10:45 pm, he'll be on kzyx. both of these are pacific
>time.
>
>i had a dream of a new pop music.....
>
>dan was quoted in the september issue of spin. this is in the
>article "killing them softly," by will hermes. this is what our boy
>had to say:
>
>"folk music is the stuff that endures," says dan bern, one of the
>few acoustic rockers who doesn't shrink from the term"folkie."
>"woody guthrie was just playing what he heard. if he'd grown up
>on the clash he would've still written 'this land is your land,' but
>he would have had the dust brothers produce it."
>
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * *
>for any changes in subscription to this list, please visit
>http://gate.garden.net:81/guest/remotelistsummary/dbhq . if you
>have any problems or questions, regarding this list or any other dan
>bern matters, please write us at danbern@gte.net
>
>till next time! :)
>
>
>someone from the office,
>
>dbhq
>
>http://www.dbhq.com
>danbern@gte.net
>
>1158 26th st #411
>santa monica, ca 90403
>
>(888) 222-bern
>
>


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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 08:58:23 pdt
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from:         swamp ophelia <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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>hey y'all.  i was just looking around on the internet trying to find
>out what this detroit suffragette sessions being aired on a windsor,
>on radio station that karrie mentioned was about.  i didn't find
>anything on that yet..

the station is the river, detroit/windsor.  it was broadcast in michigan
too, i'm assuming.  carol and sarah <chickenwomyn@hotmail.com> listen to
this station, they could give you more station info... but they didn't
boot it, they were at the show with me.

jill

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i just finished listening to viva la diva's greatest hit vol i for the
first time and it totally blew me away.  especially the last two songs.

track 10, the last official track, is called "when you're ready".  this
song is hot!!  listen to amy recite love poetry on the right speaker while
cooper protests in the left, amy gives up on poetry and just starts to to
talk dirty, cooper relents and...well...let's just say, you shouldn't do
anything that requires too much concentration while listening to this song.
wow!!

track 11, because it's a hidden track, doesn't have a title but i'd call it
"gone again".  that's right, "gone again".  other than the title it doesn't
sound like amy's "gone again".  maybe hers is an answer though.  this cd
was released in 1995.


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and everything, everything sounds like harmony
                 ---e. cooper seay, "like a woman"

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 09:07:50 pdt
reply-to:     swamp ophelia <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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subject:      cincy setlist/ the thalia + lisa song
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>>roll the dice
>>gabrielle
>>way below...radio
>
>can anyone tell me which of these was the thalia zedek number? the one
>where lisa g. played violin? i just fell madly in love with it as soon
>as i heard it...

'twas gabrielle.  i will be scanning the web like a madwoman today, and
i'll post all thalia/come/uzi info i find, cause i see i'm not alone in
my, ahem, *appreciation* of her... ;)

jill

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envirolink needs your help!

lycos recently dropped corporate sponsorship of envirolink
(http://www.envirolink.org), leaving them in a financially dire
situation. should envirolink fold, the blow to the animal rights and
environmental community would be tremendous.  envirolink hosts
approximately 400 organizations, most of them grassroots organizations
with little funding to afford commercial web hosting services.
envirolink also offers a great many services, such as e-mail lists,
e-mail accounts, domainname hosting, web based chat forums.  urge lycos
to reinstate its support of envirolink!

for more information on this issue and suggestions for writing to lycos,
visit the friends of envirolink website at http://www.waste.org/~oak/.

the vegetarian voice - august 31, 1998 - issue #13
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yup, same kind of station is playing shawn in phoenix now too.  woo hoo.
now if i could only get them to play ig....

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subject:      ig & k's choice in teen people
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i keep forgetting to tell ya'll this hope someone hasn't already
mentioned it, but there's a great pic of amy ray rehearsing backstage at
lilith fair, and also a pic of k's choice @ lilith in teen people
magazine. (the teen equivilant of people)
there's also about 8 pictures of sarah m. :p if anyone cares...

*hugs*

lamia


"if you love a lot, you lie a lot.."
--tori amos, jackie's strength


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subject:      re: article from minneapolis star tribune
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hey y'all,

here are two excerpts from the mst article i wanted to respond to:

> the indigos are proud to wave the flag of equality in the realm
> of rock 'n' roll, championing women's rights with the same
> fervor they bring to their folk-hued pop songs.
>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^>
> tonight's lineup:
>
>   indigo girls: these georgians are as peachy as they are
> cheeky, building a successful career on their soft pop-folk
  ^^^^^^                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> sound and emotionally tough feminine assertions without
> forgoing their leftist politics.

and my question is... has this writer actually listened to any ig music in
the past 5 years?!?!  i can see self-titled, sf, and rites, and to a
certain extent even swamp, being described as "soft pop-folk" and/or
"folk-hued pop songs".  but *not* sots or nis, and definitely not a
lot of their new songs they've been playing recently, specifically during
this latest tour. i know y'all realize this isn't the most accurate way to
describe the ig's music as a whole.  i don't know, it just bothers me when
i hear these misrepresentations...  yeah, so i'm an "amy" person.  but, i
dig emily's music, too.  i don't have anything against "folk-hued pop".  i
love those songs, too.  i just can't imagine songs like "go," "faye
tucker," "chickenman," "touch me fall," and many, *many* other songs as
being blindly lumped under this innacurate image of ig music.  cheeky!?!?
ok, sure, "airplane" is self-admittedly cheeky, but to describe their
music in general as that.  oh, goodness!  that is so way *off*!

okay, sorry y'all for goin' off.  i just always seem to be "defending"
what i like so deeply against some misrepresented image.  the music that
kicks my butt is not "cheeky pop."  i can't help but take offense at
representing something to the general public that you aren't even the
least bit personally familiar with...

ok.  i'll shut up now.  just had to get that off my chest...

peace, melissa

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>date: mon, 31 aug 1998 15:20:20 -0400
>to: dar-list@world.std.com
>from: young/hunter information <yhinfo@shore.net>
>cc: richard-shindell@magenet.com, deep-blue@smoe.org, neudls@mit.edu,
>        gdunger@aol.com

[...]

>first off, if you were at this year's newport folk festival in rhode island
>for the sunday show, you'll remember rose polenzani as the wonderful, young
>singer/songwriter who joined indigo girls during their set and did a song
>of her own ("olga's birthday").  well, amy and emily have become pretty big
>fans of her's and they have invited her to join them this thursday,
>september 3rd, for the suffragette sessions show in new york city (also
>featuring jane siberry, lisa germano, and others).  the show is at irving
>plaza and you can call 212-777-6800 for tickets/info.  if you're in the
>area, this is *definitely* a show worth checking out (little bit o'gossip:
>amy and emily have actually been singing harmony with rose on at least one
>song...!).

[...]

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since i haven't seen these posted yet, i've done my best to transcribe
the lyrics to soon to be nothing (along with the jean smith spoken word
segments).  there are a few spots where i got stuck, so if anyone could
help me out, i'd appreciate it.

thanks, shelley

******************

soon to be nothing (as performed 8/30/98 at bogart's in cincy)

on a mountain road
saw a heavy load
with a satin part (?)
_________ break apart
_____________________
with a second fear (?)
pull the letters apart

i have passed these pines
'bout a million times
effortlessly
now i grab the wheel
fear is what i feel
i was so uncrowded (?)
in the glee

chorus:  don't tell me it's ________
         just a matter of time
         my god, don't you think i know
         what's in my mind?
         so i ____________
         a healing ________ (mother? void?)
         i'll soon be nothing,
         but i don't know when

jean's part:

she can't stop the dullness
something slowly rotting
in their boxes
__________________
she takes a token
of her ambition
and rolls it in her hands
she rolls it in her hands
and like her plans
like her desires
it disappears

(back to emily now)
well the way i feel
on my crooked feet (?)
i'm an avid (?) horse
on a one track course
and i self despise
crying out my eyes
cause the happy trail
led me to remorse
but the road is long
and the sun is gone
like an empty inn
__________________
but i saw my choice
and i found my voice
and i don't know when
and i just can't say

don't tell me its simple, baby
just a matter of time
my god, don't you think i know
what's in my mind?
____________
____________
i'll soon be nothing
but i don't know when

jean again:
her thoughts were chased by dogs
_____________________________
their bones were ________ alive
and she could see into their mouths
past the chains

she worked part time in an office
concealed things that other people wanted
she couldn't keep them for herself
it paid exactly half her rent
her ambition,
her ambition paid the rest of the way (or "her ambition faded away")

emily again:
deep behind my face
there's a sacred place
where the cares are hitched
up to the bait
its a _______ line
waiting to unwind
till i hear that click
that unlocks my fate

chorus

*****************

also, for anyone who's interested, i can forward you the most recent
cathy richardson mailing list e-mail.

peace,
shelley

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ok friends!!

as you all know, thursday in nyc is the last ss show for 1998!  so who missed
out on shirts and posters?


here is what i need for you to do:

1) if i have already agreered tog et you something, please email me to confirm
what it is you need and the size you need it in. this way you can be sure i
know what you want.

2) if you still need something, email me and let me know what it is and size
you need it in. i will add you to the list.


please include your address so i can have the package all ready to send!

i am getting to the show early so i can park close and drop all this stuff in
the car.

if you do not email me, i will not know what to get and you might miss out!

thanks!  babs

ps: ann, bar, and jen i have you on my list!  also: i got the check someone
sent but can't place the real name with the email addy! help me out here!

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> and my question is... has this writer actually listened to any ig music in
> the past 5 years?!?!  i can see self-titled, sf, and rites, and to a
> certain extent even swamp, being described as "soft pop-folk" and/or
> "folk-hued pop songs".  but *not* sots or nis, and definitely not a
> lot of their new songs they've been playing recently, specifically during
> this latest tour. i know y'all realize this isn't the most accurate way to

actually, this is one of the great mysteries of folk...how to define
what it is and isnt. you wont get the same answer from any two
poeple asked.

to me, folk is about storytelling.  it's the content of the music
not how it is played (ie electric vs acoustic).  i see a lot of
ig's songs as storytelling so it isnt such a stretch in my mind to
call it folk hued.

but that's jsut me.

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pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 13:29:17 -0500
reply-to:     sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu>
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if you've sent me your name since sunday, it's okay.

if you did it before that please do so again.

i lost my list of people somehow.

sorry for the inconvenience.


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put me down again/on the ground i'll pretend/that you still want me
and everything, everything sounds like harmony
                 ---e. cooper seay, "like a woman"

sheryl jones
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hey ya'll..anyone want to do me a favour and fill out this questionaire
thing?

here's the info:
i'm majoring in psych and i'm really interested in how different
generations of lesbians interact. from my experience i've noticed that
women who have been out for 15 or 20 years don't really feel they have
much in common with "baby dykes" and vice versa. i want to know why this
is. so if anyone old or young wouldn't mind filling out this thing i've
made up, it would be a great deal of help to me!
it doesn't contain anything personal aside from things like, how long
have you been out, how old are you, etc. nothing about your partner, or
personal sexual stuff or anything.
please mail me at lamia13@yahoo.com for more info.

i know that not everyone on this list is a woman or gay so sorry for the
post that has nothing to do with ya'll!!

*hugs*

lamia
again please mail lamia13@yahoo.com

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but that's just a point of view,
and you know how quickly that could change, too..."
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i have a question or two...(remember ive been gone!  sorry!  i think i
missed something?)

does anyone have the boots for roxy (is that atlanta?) and the dc show
- that was around the same time as bethelhem musikfest?  (i cant
remember the name of the place - was *that* one roxy?)  why am i so
braindead this afternoon?  argh.

any help/info would be greatly appreciated!

rock on,
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> to me, folk is about storytelling.  it's the content of the music
> not how it is played (ie electric vs acoustic).  i see a lot of
> ig's songs as storytelling so it isnt such a stretch in my mind to
> call it folk hued.
>
> but that's jsut me.
>
> amy p.

hey,

you make a good point.  yeah, i agree about the "lyrical" aspects of ig
music, that it is very "folk-y." and also how much of their music pertains
to the 'lives and struggles of the common people."  to me that seems to be
an big part of "folk" music.  i think what bothered me were the "cheesy"
and "pop" comments, however.

peace, melissa

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i specifically have asked both of them their position on bootlegs, first,
there is no formal policy, altho they said the think about writing one out.
they personally have no problem with bootleg tapes, i know they do have a
problem making money off their tapes or cds - but they generally do not care
about people taping and trading shows - though being discreet does not hurt.

mike r.

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hi sasha !
my take on it is that the girls themselves 'look the other way'
but if asked i'm not suprised that anyone working for them in
any official capacity would not endorse taping. i don't think they've
ever gone the way of the dead or phish and allowed it openly
in a special pit or area.

i kinda think it's something that needs to be done discreetly.
most venue's don't alow taping of any shows, so those
who do it, do it at their own risk, but with new technology, it's
pretty easy to tape a show and not get caught.

so boot on and remember to share you candy !
:)
claire

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hey y'all - ok, ok, this is my last nigc for the week.... promise...!!!
;-)
first - for all who responded about my ticketmaster/ordering
questions....
thanks <big hug>.  you guys are the best!!

my next question:  i'm dropping by new york for a week on my way home to
l.a.  i want to relax and have some fun (two and a half months of finals
is tooooo long, wouldn't you say?  last one on sunday... then flying
outta here on teusday.. wooo hooo!)  so, are there any musts i should
check out in new york? any good music scenes?  recommendations,
anyone????

thanks!!
*hugs*
(don't i look like lamia, signing like that?  <waving> hi lamia!)
michal
who can't believe she's missing the nyc suf.sess. by a week.
aack!!  (how bout all you rocking new yorkers hold em hostage there till
i arrive? ;-)

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i was watching either mtv or vh1...the show was fanatic...a woman was able
to interview her favorite band (i think it was matchbox 20...) on the way
she was being interviewed herself in a limo and was wearing a k's choice
cocoon crash t-shirt...

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keep up the good work on this vote for the shirts. the numbers are neck and
neck right now so either one can win. to spice things up i am letting you
vote more then once on your idea. so the more votes in for the one you like
can be the difference if it wins or not. the choices again are

kind friends and intimate strangers
intimate strangers

msinghaus@msmisp.com with all votes.

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if you are currently wanting boots from me where my name has been
given to you (as a branch of a tree) please still email me!

it's fall semester of university life and i can hardly  read any
email...so... i have to say bye to the list for now. i'll be seeing
you soon and may still post things from time to  time.
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melissa singhaus wrote:
>  the numbers are neck and
> neck right now so either one can win. to spice things up i am letting you vote more then once on your idea.

you're really beating this t-vote-thing to death now... i think you lost
some of us on round one or two (or was is vote three...?)

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i am just bored trying to take it easy since i hurt my back at work a week
ago tomorrow. i already know who the winning choice is even though i
disagree since some of us are friends and some of us that were not friends
before become friends so the winning choice is intimate strangers. missy

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at 11:09 am 8/31/98 , shelley miller wrote:
>does anyone have a boot with "sister" on it?  i will trade pictures, my
>firstborn, or my cincy boot for it (caveat being that i missed the last
>song and a half--and there are at least two other boots out there with
>the whole show)...that darn song won't leave me alone.

it's coming... almost done mastering the 9:30 club show, will be tree'ing
it soon.  the show also features "soon to be nothing" (new emily song), "oh
rosalynn" (no clue... amy segues from it into soy), cio/"wish you were
here" (pink floyd), amy's new "gone again," "the boys just laugh," and
"go."  and it's near soundboard quality... your patience will be rewarded!


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at 10:57 am 9/1/98 -0500, sheryl jones wrote:
>i just finished listening to viva la diva's greatest hit vol i for the
>first time and it totally blew me away.  especially the last two songs.
>
>track 10, the last official track, is called "when you're ready".  this
>song is hot!!  listen to amy recite love poetry on the right speaker while
>cooper protests in the left, amy gives up on poetry and just starts to to
>talk dirty, cooper relents and...well...let's just say, you shouldn't do
>anything that requires too much concentration while listening to this song.
> wow!!

de-lurking for an interesting tidbit....when this song was recorded one of
the band members, if i remember correctly told me that amy and cooper's
soc's were recorded in one take at the same time with each in a different
room neither one being able to hear the other...kinda spooky how similar
they are in places.... :)


kat

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missy:
sorry to hear that your back is not happy.  do not apologize for "going
overboard."  anyone was welcome to take on this task.  you are the only one
that did.  you stuck with it and did a good job.  thanks missy!  since we all
are either kind friends or intimate strangers-let's show our appreciation
rather than our attitudes, e-mail missy at msinghaus@msmisp.com.
lynn

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<< in a message dated 98-08-11 19:42:24 edt, mmedido@aol.com writes:

<< i must admit that i am hooked into this 'controversy' as much as
  most...but i must say that it brings up questions as to the
  complicity of the author of the article....remember the atlanta
  magazine article ?
   >>

a marvelously executed segue, i must say, mmedido! =)  much appreciated!
that bad article can be found in the march, 1997 issue of "atlanta" magazine
along with some nice, nice photos.  many copies of this magazine can be found
on my bookshelf and they're waiting for you!  yes, you!  i did pay for them,
and, being poor, i can't give them away, but i can sell them for cover price
plus postage, which all adds up to $6 a piece.  i have a seemingly endless
supply, but they're sure to go fast, and i'd really like not to have them
anymore, so act quickly!  but wait!  there's more!  if you act now and add
$1.50 to that price, you can have a copy of my latest mix tape, entitled
"sarah's greatest hits 1998 volume 1".  also, all orders will be accompanied
by one of those cute promo stickers that came out with sots.  operators are
standing by!  (well, i'm sitting by, but who's counting?)  peace, love, and
butter biscuits, sarah  >>

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>melissa singhaus wrote:
>>  the numbers are neck and
>> neck right now so either one can win. to spice things up i am letting
you vote more then once on your idea.

if you let people vote more than once for their name of choice, then
your vote will lose all empirical and statistical validity.
here's what i mean:
say you have 5 people.  3 people choose a.  2 choose b.  that means
they're neck-in-neck (like our t-shirt votes), but a *is* the winner.
if you let these people vote again, you'll screw your votes all up.
say all the b folks vote *again*, while the a people don't.  then b
would have more votes, so it would win, when a was actually what the
majority preferred.
just doesn't make sense.

jill

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excerpts from internet.music.indigo-girls: 1-sep-98 re: setlist
abbreviations a.. by j k@juno.com
> it's gabrielle.  it's awesome, and it's on the uzi cd.
> it's about a woman.  :)
>


i'm not familair with the piece, but i think it's a great title for a song!

gabrielle

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(note:  the papers dolls once released a rock and roll version of 'blood and
fire' on one of their cassettes)

september 2, 1988 -- the atlanta journal-constitution

paper dolls are bittersweet as they fold act

by holly crenshaw

in light of the brief life span of most homegrown pop music groups, the
demise of another band unable to attract a recording contract might not be
newsworthy. but the paper dolls' decision to break up after performing this
weekend at little five points pub is a poignant one, not only for the five
members of the all-female band but also for their musical colleagues.

"sometimes you just have to go ahead and instigate a change without really
knowing what's going to happen," says bass player dede vogt. "there's been a
lot of time and love and effort put into this project. it's gonna be hard to
imagine not playing together after all these years."

a mainstay of the atlanta club circuit for eight years, the paper dolls
(originally known as the fabulous scallion sisters) garnered a devoted
following through frequent appearances at the pub, the harvest moon saloon
and clubs in augusta as well as florida and south carolina. braving the
male-dominated live music scene and consistently filling clubs, they broke
ground as the first generation of a now-flourishing network of women
musicians in atlanta.

that circle includes the indigo girls, angela motter, michelle malone, moral
hazard, carolyn aiken, michelle martin, melanie hammett and others
performing regularly around atlanta. the paper dolls's role in building a
supportive atmosphere for other female musicians developed in subtle ways:
swapping songs, loaning equipment, sitting in on performances and
recordings, critiquing each other's work, offering slots to upcoming acts in
benefit concerts, sharing business and technical advice, and building
friendships.

emily saliers, half of the indigo girls folk-rock duo, credits the paper
dolls with providing her and partner amy ray with positive role models.
"they're a great band, and they didn't get the recognition they deserved,"
ms. saliers says. "they will definitely leave a big hole in atlanta's music
scene."

angela motter, a guitarist and singer who fronts her own jazz band, says,
"knowing that i could call them with questions . . . the ability to do that
is just priceless to me. it makes it so much easier than to gut it out by
myself."

but while that shared sense of community among female musicians has been
thriving for the last few years, the paper dolls gradually found their own
career at a standstill. the feeling that it might be time for the group to
call it quits had been growing for months, says vocalist anne macdonald.

but it was ms. vogt, a veteran of the local club circuit since the late
'70s, who decided the time had come to break up. the group's locally
produced album, released in april 1987, turned out to be its last attempt to
gain the attention of a major record label, but no offer for a record
contract came.

"when we finished the album, we all thought it had been a great experience,
but afterwards we were still playing at the same places as before," ms. vogt
says. "the band just wasn't moving anywhere."

the band's origins date back to the huntsville, ala., high school friendship
of ms. macdonald and keyboardist cindy diamond. ms. vogt joined them in
1980, having already built a reputation as a solo performer and as a member
of pretty good for girls, a seminal group that featured former atlanta
keyboardist fonda feingold.

as the fabulous scallion sisters, the trio began building their sets around
an eclectic assortment of swing music, cover songs by rickie lee jones, the
andrews sisters and the roches, and acoustic-flavored originals. drummer
carolyn bennett joined the band in 1981; with the addition of lead guitarist
missy speert, the group began pulling away from jazz and swing material and
concentrating on harder-edged rock 'n' roll compositions. that evolution was
completed in 1986, when tammy hurt replaced ms. bennett on drums, and the
members renamed themselves the paper dolls.

their album showcased the best of the band's more aggressive music. ms.
speert's electric guitar solos and ms. hurt's forceful drumming pushed the
group deeper into hard rock on songs such as "heartbeat" and "invisible."
the ballad-influenced songs of ms. diamond ("time to stop," "the closer we
get") were updated with cleaner arrangements, and the album closed with ms.
macdonald singing a campy, spirited version of jimi hendrix's "fire."

the personal connection felt by their fans remained consistent throughout
their stylistic and personnel changes. that deep loyalty was sometimes a
mixed blessing for the band, which tried to forge a musical identity without
alienating longtime fans.

when asked what they might have done wrong, ms. macdonald says, "sometimes i
feel like we were just in the wrong place on the time line."

"we were too conservative," ms. vogt says. "it's such a special band,
though. we always tried to cater to each individual within the band. we were
always wondering, 'would this person be happy on the road or would this
person rather not travel?'

"we tried to take care of each other and were always concerned about each
other's immediate happiness and safety," ms. vogt continues. "things would
have been different if we had been more cutthroat. but we worked really
hard, and i'm proud of that."

even though they're going separate ways, the band members still will be
involved in music. ms. speert and ms. hurt plan to join other local bands,
while ms. diamond is concentrating on songwriting. ms. vogt will play bass
for the indigo girls through the end of the year, while putting more effort
into writing acoustic music. the original fabulous scallion sisters (ms.
diamond, ms. macdonald and ms. vogt) will reunite for a benefit performance
sept. 25 at the inman park trolley barn to help raise money for the names
project, an aids memorial quilt.

with the indigo girls' recent signing by epic records in new york, ms.
saliers says she feels particularly sensitive about getting the big break
that never blessed the paper dolls. "it's like two sisters trying out for
the olympics, and one makes it and the other one doesn't. you feel happy but
you feel sad."

ms. macdonald expects the full impact of her mixed emotions to hit her at
the final performance, which will be monday. "i'll probably hold it together
till the last night, and then my eyes will well up every time we start a
song. but then the other side of me will be saying, 'only one more time to
be singing this song!' "

paper dolls. little five points pub. friday through monday. music begins at
10 p.m. $4 cover charge. 1174 euclid ave.

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hey folks,

here's a boot tree announcement that was sent to the news
list...

cheers,
sherlyn

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: tue, 1 sep 1998 22:23:31 -0400
from: donna m schwartz <d6309@prodigy.net>
subject: [ig-news] boot announcement

hi fellow listees,
yet another tree announcement.  both of the following shows were a lot of
fun and include some interesting sets and some new songs.  at the newport
show, ig introduced an up and coming singer-songwriter rose polenzani-she
was very good.  also on this tape i included problem child, the early
version of go go go, from a previous cd boot entitled early recordings, vol.
ii.  the quality is very good on both tapes. the only mishap was that on
both tapes the first song was cut off-my recorder was acting up.
the lilith show requires a 60 minute tape and the newport show a 90 minute
tape.  please send a self-addressed stamped envelope to your branch-this
cuts the cost for these nice people who are volunteering their time to do
this. please contact the appropriate branchee through private email response
to obtain a copy of these tapes. do not send your requests to the listserve.
sheryl has enough to do.


here are the set lists:
lilith at jones beach, day 2:
shame on you (cut off), galileo, kid fears, it's alright, shed your skin,
water is wide (w/sarah mclachlan), get out the map, scooter boys, ghost,
closer to fine, what's going on.

newport folk fest:
i don't wanna know (cut off), it's alright, faye tucker/scooter boys, get
out the map, three hits, ghost, go go go, least complicated, rose
polenzani-olga's birthday, shed your skin, power of two (w/ sara lee), gone
again, galileo, the weight, closer to fine, and problem child (a bonus i
included from early recordings vol.ii to compare with go go go).

the branches:
january:        kelly           fairbk@sage.edu
feb.:           alison  indigopo2@aol.com
mar/april:      bonnie  bonster@u.washington.edu
may:            lamia           saliers_ray@hotmail.com
jun/july:       kris            kricky31@hotmail.com
aug:            jude            hunterj1@aol.com
sept.:  karen           kla@aloha.net
oct./nov:       lisa            memememi@aol.com
dec:            ann             ktyldy@cswnet.com

enjoy the shows,
donna

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indigoers or whoever the hell we are,

i thought the second voting thang was simply an exercise for
thems that was bored.....   (my fault) but me dint know it
was a serious vote & subject to rule changes whenever....

and if i knew i coulda  voted as many times as my whimsical
self had a hankering 2.... guess what? them shirts would be
printed wiff the following.....

bar be dating emily * bar rules * bar is awesome * bar be an
inspiration 2 the world* & our shirt lister name would be,
*emily loves bar ~ groupies*  2 bad me dint take voting
seriously.... now we all loose cuz i took a snooze...

now some much needed good news, there be 40,000 brilliant
students @ um (college park campus) & sense they all love &
worship me.... i done be voted *mostest popularest* and me
heard our kewl skewl prez wants shirts made commemorating
that me be the kewlest um student.... well,  jest maybe, if
ya wants the bar shirt & if y'all voted many times & cause
my superior qualities abound,  i'll consider procuring y'all
a bar shirt. sorry, no promises tho..... the demand @ my
unibercity be humongous & they gots 1st priority.  so,
currently your much desired bar garment be real iffy...
hey, don't dismay followers, i'll do my bestest!

as always..... forever humble bar
and y'all are welcome, i do what i can
and i'm cranky cause i'm already behind w/ my skoolwork!
geez, it didn't take me long.  okay i gotta study, gotta a
quiz tomorrow to ace!


                                         peace + love,
                                   forever a flower child
                                    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
      water retention is not new to me ~ emily saliers
if you're not outraged, then you're not paying attention!
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             http://www.wam.umd.edu/~bcorrice/dir.html
                                    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list yesterday, but my brain
stopped working and i neglected to send it on to here as well...

-sherlyn

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         and i don't even get it..."    - patty larkin

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date: mon, 31 aug 1998 06:36:05 pdt
from: "elizabeth black" <kedaz@hotmail.com>
subject: [ig-news] cincinnati post article

i know the concert already happened last night, but i found this article
written a couple days ago from the cincinnati post. by the way, the
concert rocked :)


suffragette sessions: a step beyond lilith

by rick bird, post music writer

leave it to the indigo girls to take the lilith fair concept to an
experimental dimension.

call it lilith fair gone kinky.

the indigos - emily saliers and amy ray - are the founding godmothers
behind a ground-breaking club tour of a dozen women
artists that promises to fracture all musical boundaries.

the suffragette sessions tour comes to bogart's on sunday, one of only
11 cities where the avant garde female music jam is
playing.

a tour press release describes it best: ''gather a bunch of musicians
from different musical genres, who are relatively unfamiliar
with each other, throw them on a tour bus together, drop them off at a
rock club, and see what happens.''

besides the two indigo girls, others performing at the bogart's bill
include ann wilson of heart, jane sibery, kate
schellenbach (luscious jackson), josephine wiggs (breeders), lisa
germano and other punk, funk and spoken word artists.

''the concept is the same as bob dylan's rolling thunder revue,'' said
ms. saliers during a break in rehearsals for the tour two
weeks ago. ''we just wanted to get a group of women together, break down
some barriers, learn each other's music, so we
could become a sort of new band with many different members.''

many people buying tickets to the show may think this is an indigo girls
concert. ms. saliers stressed it is not.

''we are performing as back-up artists, solo artists. we want to
definitely downplay the indigo girls presence, because we are
not performing our songs together.''

however, it's expected the two will perform a couple new songs as the
indigo girls, but other than that, concert-goers can
expect the two to fade into the communal-jam background.

the show promises to be an inventive mix where artists of radically
different backgrounds will be performing each other's songs.
styles will rage from punk to funk, folk to poetry readings. in short,
this is designed as an in-your-face,
break-down-the-musical-barriers tour that will challenge fans.

as ms. saliers puts it: ''if you like listening to acoustic folk songs,
you may stick your nose up at spoken word artists as being
too avant garde that will poke you in different places. the idea of this
tour is to get poked all over the place. that's the spirit of
it.''

ms. saliers said each artist on the tour was asked to bring in three
songs for the rehearsals that everyone else would learn.
performers were also encouraged to play instruments they weren't used
to. it's expected each night on the mini-tour will be an
eclectic, experimental set.

''and we'll have a lot of cheat sheets and music stands,'' ms. saliers
said with a laugh. ''there's no way we can all learn these
songs on three days' rehearsal.''

ms. saliers downplayed comparisons to lilith fair saying she and fellow
indigo - ms. ray - have been thinking about this kind
of tour for years.

''the suffragette tour concept was something we came up with five years
ago. lilith had nothing to do with it,'' she said. ''if it
works out, we may do it again. who's to say. hopefully the fans will get
it, and appreciate the experiment. if that happens i
don't see why we wouldn't do it again.''

as for the indigo girls' future, ms. saliers said they will hit the
studio in january to record a new album. she said some work
will be done in london with the back-up band for sinead o'connor, whom
they met on the lilith tour. they will also record
cuts at various u.s. studios, saying they want to have a feel of an
album recorded in different locations with different sounds.

but for now, the suffragette sessions tour is the focus.

''it's a socialist experiment in music. expect the unexpected and have a
good time,'' she said.

who's playing

artists appearing on the suffragette sessions tour include:

amy ray and emily saliers of the indigo girls;

lisa germano, singer-songwriter, formerly with john mellencamp's band;

lourdes perez, singer, guitar player;

kate schellenbach of luscious jackson;

jane sibery, canadian singer-songwriter, pianist and poet;

jean smith of mecca normal;

ann wilson of heart;

gail ann dorsey, guitarist who played with david bowie and tears for
fears;

josephine wiggs of the breeders;

thalia zedek of punk rockers come.

opening act: shonen knife, a japanese rock trio.

club profile

suffragette sessions tour

at bogart's on sunday at 8 p.m. tickets: $20, at ticketmaster
(562-4949).

                                      publication date: 08-27-98

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i'm kinda interested in how others tape, because i love doing it and
want to know what other people use as equipment.  mention specifics if
possible, anybody taping can benefit from your knowledge.  i only use a
hand held tape recorder with a plugged in shure beta 58 microphone if i
am close or inside.
                        lynz

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date:         tue, 1 sep 1998 23:19:59 pdt
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okay, guys, help me out with this one.  i've been searching forever
online for stuff on thalia zedek/come/uzi/live skull/anything else she's
been involved with...
and i absolutely cannot find that cimarron song, the one that a bunch of
us are loving so much.

here's where *you* come in:  if you're waiting out back by the buses to
talk to any of the performers, or sulli, and you see thalia, can you ask
her where that song can be found?  (i'm not yelling, i'm trying to get
your attention).  like, what band did she do it with (cause she's been
in soooo many), what album is it on, if any at all?  or is it a new
song?  arg arg arg.  frustratiiiiiiing.

it's pronounced sim' uh rin, kinda like "simmerin'", as in, "hoo man,
was zedek simmerin' on stage!" . look in the dictionary for the exact
way to say it so you can ask about it and seem to know what you're
talking about. so ask.  cause i can't be there and i need to know or
i'll die and then whose posts are gonna annoy you all day???  yeah.

jilly, who is amazed to find a music reviewer who agrees with her that
thalia's voice is similar to carla (geraldine fibbers) bozulich's. and i
bet i'm just babblin and y'all are going, "geraldine *who*?"....

yeah i need to go do something productive with my life.

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on wed, 2 sep 1998, lynz floren wrote:

> i'm kinda interested in how others tape, because i love doing it and
> want to know what other people use as equipment.  mention specifics if
> possible, anybody taping can benefit from your knowledge.  i only use a
> hand held tape recorder with a plugged in shure beta 58 microphone if i
> am close or inside.
>                         lynz
>

does anyone still have that taping faq that someone put together for the
list roughly a year and a half ago?  it had a lot fo great tips, like recs
on equipment and techniques.  i went on a great search for it in my file
cabinet, but to no avail.  i don't think it survived coming home from
college.  if no one has it laying around, does anyone know of any websites
that might be helpful?

thanks in advance,
kelly

obindigo:  the song i would like most to hear the girls cover:  either
girlfriend by matthew sweet or thick as a brick by jethro tull(just for
the sheer length.)

np:  the guitar by tmbg from my first loop tape.  (hey sarah!)
*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*
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*%     fairbk@sage.edu     *%
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>and i absolutely cannot find that cimarron song, the one that a bunch
>of us are loving so much.

i don't know if it is on any "real" albums, but cimarron is on the
"ain't nothin' but a she thing" compilation album.  this is the only
album i have been able to find in local record stores with any thalia
stuff on it.  it also has a cover of "the weakness in me" by me if you
need another reason...

kris

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hi,
at the risk of sounding woefully uninformed/ignorant/ *put in any
adjective you want*, i ask:

what are soc's?, as in:

>amy and cooper's soc's were recorded in one take at the same time with >each in a different room neither one being able to hear the other.

elaine

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soc=streams of consciousness.  when someone just says something off the top
of their head that doesn't necessarily make sense.


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put me down again/on the ground i'll pretend/that you still want me
and everything, everything sounds like harmony
                 ---e. cooper seay, "like a woman"

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hi,
i'm not back on the list yet cause my computer died- it won't recognize the
hard drive (you know, a minor problem), but i have a question that i hope
somebody can help me with. i'm looking for any and all info on the
suffragette sessions show tonight in philadelphia- is it sold out? dare i
risk driving 2 hours to find that out? if somebody could let me know, that
would be awesome.
thanks in advance,
sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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i meant to send this to the whole list, but given the late hour only ended
up screaming jude's praises into her own ear!!! so here' another try!:


>hey y'all,
>
>jude rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as one who was recently able to benefit from
>this wonderful woman's generosity, let me say: " thank you, thank you and
>thank you! you are indeed and ig angel!
>
>peace,  laura
>
happy day everybody.

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date:         wed, 2 sep 1998 12:09:57 pdt
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hey gang - posted my review on the ig website for all interested.  it's long as hell, so i didn't want to send it here.

http://www.epiccenter.com/epiccenter/docs/artistbbs.qry?artistid=83

tara lane
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date:         wed, 2 sep 1998 09:49:46 pdt
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could someone please post the lyrics to ziggy stardust and cannonball?

i feel the need to mouth them as i bop along to the tape on the el at
rush hour.

tidy-bye,
shel

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hey y'all
just wanted to let everyone know that the band halcyon is making another
atlanta stop on friday night.. if you haven't checked them out yet.. ya
should..
they are at the otherside lounge friday night and playing on the square in
decatur on saturday around 7pm..
so you have your choice.. pay a cover, come see them for free .. or my
personal favorite.. both!

later

e

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date:         wed, 2 sep 1998 10:52:38 -0600
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has anyone else heard anything about amy going on a spoken word tour??? a
friend of mine told me he read about her doing so in a magazine (possibly
"progressive", but i'm not sure). he said it had a list of progressive
"entertainers" and the like who were going on spoken word tours, but it
didn't have specific dates or venues. does anyone have any more info on
this?

amy m.

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>cimarron is on the
>"ain't nothin' but a she thing" compilation album.
>it also has a cover of "the weakness in me" by me...

what record label is it out on, and what was its date of release?  this
should be in small print either on the spine of the cd, or at the bottom
of the liner notes. :) this way, we can find it easier at record stores.

and as for not being able to find any zedek anywhere, just hang tight...
i'll be soon posting a bunch of info, plus who's got her music :)

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>does anyone have any more info on this?


the tour is called the spitfire tour, and here's what the ad in mother
jones says (typos are my fault, and i'm sorry in advance):

musicians, actors and activists speaking out on global affairs.
the spitfire tour is the first ever package tour of musicians, actors
and sctivists speaking out on global affairs. the tour was created
in-part by human rights activist zach de la rocha (rage against the
machine), and will be moderated by free speech advocate krist novoselic
(nirvana/sweet 75). the objective is to entertain, while instigating
action.

touring colleges fall 98.

speakers include
amy ray (indigo girls)
exene cervanka (x)
jello biafra (dead kennedys)
kennedy (mtv)
todd mccormick (medical marijuana activist)
and many more to be announced.

for info: 415/289-1510, http://www.spitfiretour.com

manderz

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hey!

i'm sorry about the waste of b/w, if this has been mentioned before:

"just wanted to let you know that emily has contributed a track to the
a tribute to bob dylan vol. 3 cd. she performs "ballad in plain d".
other artists on the cd include kelly hogan, #1 family mover, hottie
and he blowfish, ida, the vidalias and more. i know that in atlanta
tower, wax n facts and corner compact disc (www.cornercd.com) have the
cd."
- info from walter whelchel jr.

peace
and
take care,
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thanks to everyone who replied to my offer (and there were a lot of you
which is why i'm sending this to the list- sorry!)... i wish i had a
billion cds to give to everyone...

the lucky recipient is elaine bean.... elaine, please reply to me privately
and i will send you my address.

have a great day, everyone!

emily

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http://www.spitfire.com/ doesn't work for me...anyone else able to access
it and find out a schedule?

tia.

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>could someone please post the lyrics to ziggy stardust and cannonball?

here's what i know, which is bowie.  could someone please post
cannonball?  i need to know what they're saying in that really fast part
that comes right before "in the shade, in the shade (??)."

ziggy played guitar
jamming good with weird and gilly
and the spiders from mars
he played it left hand
but made it too far
became the special man
then we were ziggy's band

ziggy really played
screwed-up eyes and screwed-down hairdo
like some cat from japan
he could lick 'em by smiling
he could leave 'em to hang
(he) came on so loaded, man
well hung and snow-white tan  (whatta classic line)

so where were the spiders
while the fly (flies?) tried to break our balls?
just a ??beer?? light to guide us
so we bitched about his fans and should we crush his sweet hands
oh

ziggy played for time
jiving us that we was voodoo
the kid was just crass
he was the ??nass?? (some british term)
with god-given ass  (hee)
he took it all too far,
but, boy, could he play guitar

making love with his ego,
ziggy sucked up into his mind
like a leper messiah
when the kids had killed the man,
i had to break up the band
oh

ziggy played
geeeee-tarrrrrrr
ohhhhh

:)

jill, whose mom has ziggy stardust on vinyl from 1972 or 74 or whenever
it was put out.  damn good album, i thoroughly recommend it.

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in a message dated 98-09-02 13:57:37 edt, salamanderz@hotmail.com writes:

<< for info: http://www.spitfiretour.com >>


is this the correct web addy?   i just tried to access it and after a long
period of waiting all i got was an "unknown host" message.   is anyone else
having this problem?   damn, and i really want to find out more about this
tour!

lynn   :-)    <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
tahmehawk's place</a>

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ok...someone posted a few days back about a site that had this sort of
thing...that the girls  had risen to 158$ or something..ok i registered
on that site and started playing around with it but i forgot the
address....and i want to go back....

anyone know what im talking about???

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on wed, 2 sep 1998, lynn van fossen wrote:

> << for info: http://www.spitfiretour.com >>
>
> is this the correct web addy?

for more info, see:
        http://www.mtv.com/mtv/news/gallery/r/rage980727.html
it's not an official site but it will tell you a little bit of
interesting info, including the fact that college students will
get in free ...

tle
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>what record label is it out on, and what was its date of release?

ok chickadees (male, female, and otherwise), here's the scoop.  the
compilation was released on london/pologram records in 1995.  it was
sponsored by levi's jeans for women (teeheehee, can't wait to see the
flame war...) and all profits went to the shirley divers foundation
which is a clearinghouse for women's charities.  you should be able to
find this in any record store, it was a major label release.  i got it
at a used cd shop back home that had four or five other copies of it.  i
remember it getting totally dissed by the critics, but most albums like
this do, so take that info with a grain of salt.

the tracks are:

01. ain't nuthin' but a she thing - salt-n-pepa
02. mama - annie lennox
03. 69 annee erotique - luscious jackson
04. weakness in me, the - melissa etheridge
05. woman of the ghetto - andi oliver
06. open your eyes you can fly - vanessa williams
07. hard times - queen latifah
08. cimarron - come
09. don't smoke in bed - patti smith
10. mna na h eireann - sinead o'connor

kris, who is a bit spacey from testing programs all day and offically
starts a really long well-deserved vacation in two hours!  yippee!

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---shelley miller <strange_fire66@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> could someone please post the lyrics to ziggy stardust and cannonball?

hey y'all.  i got these lyrics for cannonball from the international
lyrics server.. http://www.lyrics.ch/
erin :)

spitting in a wishing well
blown to hell... crash
i'm the last splash
i know you, little libertine
i know you're a real koo koo

hey now, hey now, ...
want you, koo koo, cannonball [2x]
in the shade [4x]

i know you, little libertine
i know you're a cannonball
i'll be you're whatever you want
the bong in this reggae song

hey now, hey now, ...
want you, koo koo, cannonball [2x]
in the shade [4x]

spitting in a wishing well
blown to hell... crash
i'm the last splash
i'll be you're whatever you want
the bong in this reggae song

hey now, hey now, ...
want you, koo koo, cannonball [2x]
in the shade [4x]
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hey.  i think the site you're talking about is
http://www.roguemarket.com
hope this helps you out.  erin :)

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        first, suff show at boathouse was very good.  tara
summed it up great on the board.  i was a little
disappointed with the club's beer garden thing, but i only
have 1.5 months.
        okay rememeber that thread about which was our
favorite a or e, well i finally reached a verdict... sulli.
i actually got a chance to exchange a few words with her
last night.  asked her the meaning of 1-3-5, (which, emily
explained as being the notes in a major triad- i thought it
was deeper).
        anyway point is anybody know any info on
sulli.  does she have an e-mail addy, that she doesn't mind
giving out?  i asked if she was going to put out some of
her own stuff and she said after the tour she was going to
try to record something, so if anybody hears of anything i
will trade my first born for it. i know she is on kristen
hall's fact and fiction (she told me).  just thought i'd
ask.  all of you getting the 9:30 boot, listen close, she
played closer to fine.  i haven't heard the boot yet, but
maybe you can hear her.

thanks ya'll,
karen 8-)

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> thursday in nyc is the last ss show for 1998

that's right. and i fear that it may not be a reocurring thing. i asked
thalia if they planned on doing it again and she said probably not
because it was all kind of just thrown together at the last minute. :(
of course that may just be thalia speaking for herself. :(

it would rock to have a different group every year tho. i wish they
would add another show in kalamazoo... err, _a_ show in kalamazoo.
anyway... hope you're all having a good week!

peace,
amy

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oh man...
i gotta see this tour, forget about amy, jello biafra and exene certventa
kick so much ass, like i totally will show my punk roots and would kill if
ian mckaye and henry rollins joined this tour. ok, since i am being
subtlely sexist (roit grrl music was difficult to find when i was in
college) but katherine hanna from bikini kill or (name escapes me...) the
bassist of sonic youth would also be cool.

betting one of the radical three (bates, bowdoin or colby) will try to get
this tour.

anyone here go to bates? just wondering, i'm looking for other ig fans and i
live right by the school.
but umm spitfire at bates would like, be too cool...
mike r.

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it was posted:
>betting one of the radical three (bates, bowdoin or colby) will try to
get
>this tour.

bates, bowdoin, colby radical?  oh ha.

one of the first schools to admit blacks & women in the 1800s, an
underground railroad stop, ties to china for over a century, protests,
uprisings, the first coed dorms anywhere, sit-ins, chain-ins, vegans,
socialists, abolishment of campus greek system, more protests,
campus-wide recycling, tremendous diversity, more piercings than you can
count, experimental college classes (you can get credit for studying
swearing), non-shaving tree-huggers, black-wearing and kerouac-reading
postmodernists, being proclaimed on the cover of newsweek as being a
"mecca for gay students,"  underground newspapers, student-run housing
and food co-ops, students on all administrative committes and boards, a
happy refuge for anyone who ever got picked on in high school...  it's
the place all you other "almost ivy" students love to hate.  it's weird.
it's freaky.  it's tremendous.  it has its own marijuana crops. ;) it's
synonymous with "strange."  and no one (with the exception of evergreen,
bard, or antioch) can even come close.

you want radical?  i'll tell you all about radical, and it's one word:
oberlin.

nyah.
jill

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jill is right in this folks!  oberlin is the place where this (spitfire tour)
would have to take place.  oberlin being a bonner scholar school and all.  i
don't know if any of you know bonner scholars...it's a program headed up by
wayne meisel in princeton, nj.  a total ig, chompsky, "do something"-type
thing.
yes, jill....you are the sh!t for your oberlin comment, but do you know for
sure?
-chee <--will travel to oberlin for this, buck-oes!

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date:         wed, 2 sep 1998 21:04:35 -0500
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hmmm, when i was coaching at oberlin i only remember things like a nude
co-op, a guy shaving himself totally and then sitting in a small cage while
naked as his senior art project, a very anti-competition athletic team,
people (on the basketball team) named ba and bhinda, several guys who wore
dresses every day not because they were cross-dressers, per se, but because
they were more comfortable than pants, the 'sco,  protests during the gulf
war in which the basketball team refused to stand for the national anthem,
but nothing really too much out of the ordinary.

well, at least not too much because i graduated from carleton before it was
full of the beautiful people that are there now.  :)

lisa

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date:         wed, 2 sep 1998 22:02:00 -0400
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you are right - oberlin is radical (so is hampshire where my little step
sister go accepted at age 16 - but she can't afford it.) i mustive thought i was
posting to the baigl list when i posted.

for new england (okay maybe my backwoods roots are showing) bowdoin bates
and colby are progressive schools...

uh. i need sleep.
mike r.

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hi -
a few weeks ago i saw someone mention a sticker that said "a+e=ig"...and since
then i've been on a major search to find it.  found out tonight from a kind
friend that this might be the place to ask about it.  did someone on this list
have it printed?  i'm in need of 2, if anyone has these available.  thanks in
advance for help in locating these.
~jade~  <jadeford@aol.com>
"and there's always retrospect to light a clearer path." (emily saliers)

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don't ever try
      ¸¸.·´¯'*´'*»@«*´'*´'*»@«*´'*´'* »@«*´'*¯'·.¸¸

     don't ever try
     to understand everything --
     some things will just never make sense.
     «*´'*´'*»
     don't ever be reluctant
     to show your feelings --
     when you're happy, give in to it!
     when you're not, live with it.
     «*´'*´'*»
     don't ever be afraid to try to
     make things better --
     you might be surprised at the results.
     «*´'*´'*»
     don't ever take the weight of the world
     on your shoulders...
     «*´'*´'*»
     don't ever feel threatened by the future --
     take life one day at a time.
     «*´'*´'*»
     don't ever feel guilty about the past --
     what's done is done. learn from any
     mistakes you might have made.
     «*´'*´'*»
     don't ever feel that you are alone --
     there is always somebody there for you
     to reach out to.
     «*´'*´'*»
     don't ever forget that you can achieve
     so many of the things you can imagine --
     imagine that! it's not as hard as it seems.
     «*´'*´'*»
     don't ever stop loving,
     don't ever stop believing,
     don't ever stop dreaming your dreams.
    ¸¸.·´¯'*´'*»@«*´'*´'*»@«*´'*´'* »@«*´'*¯'·.¸¸

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smile!!!!!

she smiled at a sorrowful stranger.
the smile seemed to make him feel better.
he remembered past kindnesses of a friend
and wrote him a thank you letter.
the friend was so pleased with the thank you
that he left a large tip after lunch.
the waitress, surprised by the size of the tip,
bet the whole thing on a hunch.
the next day she picked up her winnings,
and gave part to a man on the street.
the man on the street was grateful;
for two days he'd had nothing to eat.
after he finished his dinner,
he left for his small dingy room.
he didn't know at that moment
that he might be facing his doom.
on the way he picked up a shivering puppy
and took him home to get warm.
the puppy was very grateful
to be in out of the storm.
that night the house caught on fire.
the puppy barked the alarm.
he barked till he woke the whole household
and saved everybody from harm.
one of the boys that he rescued
grew up to be president.
all this because of a simple smile
that hadn't cost a cent.

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date:         wed, 2 sep 1998 22:45:11 edt
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>
>jill is right in this folks!  oberlin is the place where this (spitfire
tour)
>would have to take place.

the problem is...i remember reading that they wanted to go to big
schools...big schools that still care and stuff.  they want socially
responsible & big.  ann arbor is just that sorta town.  i'm hoping that
it goes to u of m (that *other* school down the road...heh.....).  i bet
thats a good guess.  so, i hope you can be a student anywhere.....
otherwise, marivel, i'm telling *you* to find someone who looks like me
so i can use their id (i asked first, so ha!)
anyway
carol

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omg!

i am so overwhelmed!  i have like 99 t-shirts to buy and like 98 posters!  i
will do my best to fill all the orders, but if i fail, please don't all kill
me at once!  (or flame me!)

to all of you who are on my "list" i will email you after the show sometime
and let you know what you owe me.

this was a simple offer that seems to have turned into a frenzy!

but i love it!  hehehe

babs: who is off to bed early so she is very rested for the big night
tomorrow!

ps:  jill i will do my best to get your message across!  and lynn, i have you
request all covered!  :-)

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in case anyone is wondering why i have not responded to their emails,
it's because i'm still 92 behind..thank god tomorrow is the end of the
week. i feel half dead, and i loook, well, let's just say the mirrors
are covered..but anyhoo just wanted to let ya'll know i'm not
dead..yet..and i'm going to crash cuz i got a 6am morning...but i will
get to your emails soon i swear. i'm trying to read the ones that look
like they're to me..but right now everything is blurring together..

*hugs ya'll*
lamia

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i'm not dead
i'm not dead (yet)
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but that's just a point of view,
and you know how quickly that could change, too..."
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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 12:54:12 +1000
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hey folks,

this was sent to the ecto mailing list (among others)...

-sherlyn
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date: wed, 2 sep 1998 08:58:12 edt
from: riphug@aol.com
to: fte@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au,
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subject: my suffragette sessions review (cincy show)

(please excuse the crosspost)

if any of you have the opportunity to go to the indigo girls' suffragette
sessions tour, do it!  but don't go if you expect to hear mostly the indigo
girls 'cause it ain't that kind of tour.  sometimes likened to a *mini lilith
fair*,
the igs have invited several female artists to perform together on stage.
many of the invitees appear only as background players, but most of them
take the lead vocals at one time or another.  and several of the participants
switch instruments from time to time.  for example, both jane siberry and
lisa germano played keyboards, accordion, and guitar or mandolin at various
times, with germano also on violin for much of the show.

i didn't write down the set list and have a pretty foggy memory, but here are
my random thoughts on the concert:

1.  the indigo girls were their typical cool selves and got the crowd really
     rocking.  i don't know many of their song titles, but they definitely did
     "power of two" and "go," which made the audience quite happy to say
      the least.

2.  i had never heard of thalia zedek (from come) before, and was left with
    no impression of her really.  she played guitar most of the time, but also
    performed on clarinet.  i'm sure she probably sang something, but i
couldn't
    tell you what it might have been -- some indie-blues thing.

3.  jean smith (of mecca normal) provided a bit of comic relief in her
frequent
    banter  with fellow canadian jane siberry.  i'd never heard jean before,
either,
    and most likely will *not* be purchasing any of her work.  she played
guitar
    most of the time, but had a few vocal leads as well.  she did a very
strange
    spoken word piece, accompanying herself with a very screechy non-musical
    guitar.  the crowd was left rather bewildered by her performance piece,
but
    you've gotta admire someone who's willing to take a chance like that, i
guess.

4.  gail ann dorsey (bass player for david bowie's tour band) was a new
    discovery for me.  not only can she play the hell out of a guitar, but she
    also has a great voice and a very pleasant stage personality.

5.  josephine wiggs (ex-breeder) played bass throughout the show, but
     never took a vocal lead.....i can't recall her doing anything but backup,
so
     what can i say?

6.  luscious jackson's kate schellenbach was heard on drums but not seen
    for the most part.  all i saw of kate was a couple of little spiky towers
    protruding from her head.

7.  lisa germano was one of the performers i was most looking forward to
    seeing.  i have all of her albums (that i know of), but had never seen her
    perform.  she tends to bring down the mood of things a little bit, but her
    music and voice are beautiful.  whispery and quiet stuff.  her most recent
    release is "slide" -- get it!

8.  the best part of the whole show was jane siberry, whom i totally adore
     and respect for her unique talents.  i have all of her albums, too.  her
voice
     is so delicate and gorgeous; her lyrics are light and often humorous; and
her
     musical compositions are extraordinary!  she has such a variety of
style.....
     but it's always happy and optimistic kind of stuff.  "love is everything"
from
     her album "when i was a boy" was one of the highlights of the night.  and
     she also performed the lead for the ensemble's version of "midnight train
to
     georgia" (with the whole audience joining in for the "hoo!  hoo!s).  jane
also
     seemed to be enjoying herself more than any of the other performers,
making
     frequent hand gestures to accompany the music, and taking photos of other
     tour members.

9.  whoops!  almost forgot the opening act -- japan's shonen knife.  they
    were so cute!  from their voices, brightly colored costumes, right down to
    their stage presence and rapport with the audience.  they performed
several
    food-related songs, and a cover of the monkees' "daydream believer."

because of some communication mixups and lack of a babysitter, i ended up
going to this concert by myself, even though i had 4 tickets.  so the price i
paid
for the suffragette sessions was just over $80 -- more than lilith fair!  but
you
know?  to me it was worth every penny....  i'd pay $80 just for jane!

jill :d
*share the music!*

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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 13:23:46 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

i am very very behind with this, but i wanted to put my
bit in, late or no...

sasha quoted:
> "i spoke with michele, the ig's sound engineer, the other night
> concerning the taping policy. i explained my ig fan "credentials" so
> that she would know that i am a longtime fan, and not a bootlegger. she
> said they no longer allow it."

well... have ig ever explicitly allowed taping?  giving
permission to do something and simply turning a blind eye
to it are very different things...

the way i understood things was pretty much as mike said -
a&e never minded that much if fans taped their shows for
their own use or for not-for-profit trading.  what they
were opposed to was the making of money from their
artistic efforts.  (from what i gathered that pretty much
meant the selling of bootleg cds.  the selling of
collectible items for profit is a whole other grey area
we could argue 'til the cows come home.)  but of course,
that's just my understanding of the situation.  i have no
personal knowledge of a&e's current stance on this.

i'd also like to point out that if you ask anyone
"official" for permission to tape an ig show, it's pretty
much guaranteed that they will say no.  again, it's the
difference between actively condoning something and simply
letting it happen.

sasha also added:
> but i do feel that if this is their new official stance, than maybe a letter
> needs to be sent to good ol. rcam.  i just feel like now that they are
> starting to get some of the publicity they deserve are they gonna go dick out
> on the fans like that ??  i know some of you are shaking your heads and saying

well... i know that rcam may not necessarily be the best
when it comes to fan relations, but i do also think that
we get away with a heck of a lot as fans, and that we
should be grateful for that.  especially in the bootlegging
department - amy and emily may not care so much about fans
booting their shows, but it's rcam's job to protect the
artists' interests.  this includes worrying about piracy of
their artistic property.  the fact that they haven't been
particularly aggressive in trying to stop taping of shows
i think reflects a&e's wishes in the matter, and is
definitely something we should be thankful for.

whoops - i could go on and on but i have to get back to
work.  hopefully some of that made sense...

cheers folks -
sherlyn
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date:         wed, 2 sep 1998 23:59:13 edt
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university of florida has been set in stone for oct. 27.  the tour begins in
october and goes on until nov.  ray is only required to speak at one visit, so
the chances of seeing/hearing her are slim.  good luck.

regarding their preference to visit big schools:  that's a good idea b/c the
point is to have a diversity of opinions.  as far as i know, not all of the
speakers will be as socialistic, and having an audience as diverse will be
beneficial.  also, it's past time that ray should start hanging out publically
with the likes of biafra and company.  one of her vices has been that she and
emily seem to preach to the choir quite a bit.  <--concede to notice this as a
possible misjudgement.  this is one of the reasons i quit being such a big fan
in 92-97.


one last thing.  if any of you are going to these, remember to always invite
someone who might not otherwise go...the point is to enlighten.  still,
though,i would be surprised if spitfire didn't visit at least one radical
college.

-chee

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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 01:13:48 -0400
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my friends and i found our way the first time to the harbor
park baseball stadium, but didn't see the boathouse on the
other side of it.  after going over a bridge & back we found it.
we got there at the right time to be 6th in line, so i got
to the front of the stage(emily was in front of me just a little
to my right).  this was definitely the closest i've been.  with
me and another guy in front of emily, it was probably a change
for her than the young girls of the college shows(was she thinking
who are these guys?).

i met tara (of the excellent review) and lynn (from san francisco)
before the concert.  nice to talk to y'all.  we listened
to the boot i traded for on the way home, and it sounded great
(i wish every boot could be off the soundboard).

shonen knife was cute and fun.  the lead singer & guitarist was
like a little kid performing all these rockstar moves, but with a
polished skillfulness.  their music style was my kind of power
rock(not techno pop) with a "pogo" flavor, so i didn't mind
the lack of variety in their songwritting.

as tara mentioned in her review, the crowd didn't get the first
rule to being a suffragette - shut up and listen you stupid
a**es.  no, they didn't put it that way, i did.  a guy behind
us was calling out chords emily was playing.  couldn't he just
think to himself "i'm so cool i can recognize chords" instead
of blurting them out.  ok, that's enough whining.  they need
to play venues like eddie's attic that has a "shhhhhhhh"
policy.  one critique is that the sound setup didn't have any
vocals come from the stage(just their monitors and right from
their mouths), so it was unbalanced with the instruments
overpowering the vocals if you were right in front of the stage.

i caught two of the picks that emily actually used, and gave one
to the girl next to me(who was soooo into ig).

i got one of the setlists(kate's), so here it is with all the
details for those interested in who's doing what on each song:

amy  emily  gail  lisa  lourdes  kate  jane  jean  josephine thalia
---  -----  ----  ----  -------  ----  ----  ----  --------- ------
under your skin
b35/  e1/   tamb/        congas  drums vox/  guitar  elec.   guitar
vox   vox   keys                       keys                  vox

roll the dice
a1/   e3/   vox/  mando  congas  drums vox/  guitar  elec.   acous
vox   vox   tamb                       keys

cimarron
a2/   n/    bass5 violin congas  drums vox/  guitar  elec.   acous
vox   vox                               keys

everwilling
                                sounds vox/  vox/            elec.
                                       keys  guitar
radio
vox   vox   drums vox/   hooves perc   vox/  guitar  elec./  elec.
                  piano                accord.       shake

tengo la vida
a1/   e1/   drum  violin guitar        vox/         upright  elec.
vox   vox                              accord.

soon to be nothing("soon to be nada" on the setlist)
      e3/   acous accord guitar drums  vox/  vocal        clarinet
      vox   bass                       keys

chez virtue
      vox   vox/                       vox/
            acous                      keys

love is everything
m/    e4/   bass5 vox/   congas  drums vox
vox   vox         piano

amy  emily  gail  lisa  lourdes  kate  jane  jean  josephine thalia
---  -----  ----  ----  -------  ----  ----  ----  --------- ------
faye tucker
a1/   n     drums piano                vox/          elec.   mando.
vox                                    keys

who jumped in my grave
e4                mando          drums keys          elec.   elec./
                                                             vox
wood floors
      vox   bass5 vox/                 keys         upright
                  piano

go go go
a1/   elec. bass4 violin bombo   drums vox/  guitar  elec.   elec.
vox   vox                              keys

vestigos
m/    e3/         violin guitar        vox/         upright  elec.
vox   vox                              keys

power of 2
a2/   elec/ bass4 mando  vox/    drums vox/                  elec.
vox   vox                conga         keys

ziggy stardust
a1/   elec/ vox/  mando  tamb    drums accord guitar elec.   elec.
vox   vox   acous

###################################################################
amy  emily  gail  lisa  lourdes  kate  jane  jean  josephine thalia
---  -----  ----  ----  -------  ----  ----  ----  --------- ------

flirting is a flo thing
a2/   elec/ bass4        tamb    drums vox   vox    upright  elec.
vox   vox

cannonball
a1/   elec/       vox            drums vox   guitar  elec.   elec./
vox   vox                                                    vox

midnight train to georgia("georgia on my mind" on the setlist)
335/  e1/   vox   perc.  tamb    drums vox/   pip    elec.   perc.
vox   vox                              keys

well, i didn't stay afterwards to meet them :(  i'd held up my
friend in the past waiting for 'em, and it was going to late
getting home.

'night,
   scott

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did that url for the spitfire tour work at all yet?  is there a schedule of
where it will be going anywhere on the net?

b

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yeah i have that compilation too and love it to death...my only sadness in
relation to it is that i never got to tape the mtv special that went along
with it...the videos didn't feature the artists...but were beautiful
nonetheless...and the one for melissa's version of twim...was...well, it
is still very special to me...for various reasons.  i wonder if they still
keep those things archived...maybe i should write and see what i can get
done.

*pondering*
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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

                                *****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
- kristen hall "just so you know"

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>did that url for the spitfire tour work at all yet?  is there a
schedule of
>where it will be going anywhere on the net?

i went to the spitfire site (should've tested before i posted, sorry
gang) just now, and it's nothing but the ad and a mailto link. no sign
of any schedule.

manderz

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being the delete happy person that i am, i deleted the url  for the site
with info about this... can someone send it to me, please?
thanks.
jill

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subject:      help set mail
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hey ya'll,
i bought a new computer recently and lost all my mail files, so i no longer
have all the info on how to set mail when you go on vacation.  can anyone
send me that info?  i leave late this afternoon and need it asap.
thanks so much!
lisa

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seriously, it's only life afterall."--emily saliers

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i'm trying to find out who taped the 1/27/98 sf show @ the warfield
that's floating around the list. i recently got a copy and the quality
just blew me away. i was temporarily off the list, travelling around the
world, when the tree was setup.

anyone know who did it?

monique

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hi gang-

was just wondering if anyone can give me the phone number to cancel an
aol subscription - my geek brother deleted it from his computer and his
recycle bin but forgot to cancel before he did sheesh, and he's older
than me!

thanks for any and all help,
lisa

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has anyone asked amy or emily themselves about this lately?
i know some fans over the years have asked a&e about it while getting an
autograph or whatever.  perhaps someone could ask a or e about it next
time they have an opportunity to talk to them.

i'm sure neither rcam or the ig organization has ever offically allowed
taping, though informally a&e have said it is okay with them, if people
do not profit from it.  by their sound engineer saying they "no longer
allow it," i too, can't help but wonder if a&e may have changed their
minds about it.  maybe the for-profit bootleg situation last year soured
them on the idea altogether, whether someone is booting shows to sell,
or just booting them to trade with other fans. i hope this isn't the
case.  what harm can trading boots really cause, anyway?  i think the
vast majority of us buy everything commercially available the day it
comes out, so i doubt epic, etc. are losing money because of boots.
maybe have anything to worry about when it comes to ig fans.

peace,

joan :-d

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sparkie gets to go see her lil'red headed girl tonight....and momma
sparkie..gonna be wearing ig shirt from the last tour with the deer and
the lady on front...can not wait..got the girls playin now and singing
along.....yeahhhhh...sparkie..who is not real serious about work
today........

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i requested information about the spitfire tour and this is what i got back:
musicians, actors & activists
come together for first ever
spitfire tour

speakers include krist novoselic (nirvana), woody harrelson (actor), amy ray
(indigo girls), jello biafra (dead kennedy s), exene cervenka (x), kennedy
(mtv) & many more.

the spitfire tour is the first ever package tour of musicians, actors, and
activists speaking out on global affairs.  the spitfire tour was co-concieved
by human rights activist zach de la rocha (rage against the machine).

the spitfire tour, which will be moderated by free speech advocate krist
novoselic (nirvana/jampac), will visit college campuses throughout october.
krist will be joined by a minimum of four other artists per date. the
objective is to expose, enlighten and entertain, while instigating action.

the spitfire tour will have an aggressive and entertaining format which will
include music & video elements.  each artist will receive a minimum of 15
minutes to speak his or her mind, followed by a one hour group q&a session
with the audience. venue capacities range from 2,000 - 12,000 per date, and
tickets will be distributed through each college s campus activities
department.

additionally, after the main event, each artist will partner with an invited
activist to host their own private discussions in smaller 100-200 seat
breakout rooms. tickets to these intimate discussions will only be available
through local charities & activist groups, thus promoting and empowering their
efforts. those not attending these discussions can tour the campus which will
contain booths with local and national charities and political groups.

the spitfire tour is sponsored in part by jampac, mother jones, deep e co,
global exchange, rock the vote, the national gay and lesbian task force, the
national commission for democracy in mexico, and living tree.

the spitfire foundation recognizes the impact that these speakers have upon
their audience.  by personal connections and grass roots interaction, we
believe that positive change can be made.  for more information please visit
spitfire on the web ~ www.spitfiretour.com.


dates & speakers: (additional speakers are likely to be announced on all
dates)

october 1st
clemson university, sc
capacity:  10,000

1. krist novoselic (nirvana) - censorship
2. kennedy (mtv) - personal responsibility
3. woody harrelson (actor) - hemp, envronment & associated issues
4. todd mccormick (activist) - medical marijuana
5. amy ray (indigo girls) - gay rights, tracey
6. tracey conaty (activist) - gay and lesbian rights


october 18th
uc berkeley, ca
capacity:  2,000

1. krist novoselic (nirvana) - censorship
2. kennedy (mtv) - personal responsibility
3. woody harrelson (actor) - hemp, envronment & associated issues
4. todd mccormick (activist) - medical marijuana
5. exene cervenka (x) - society s toll on mental health


october 26th
vanderbilt university, nashville tn
capacity:  1,500

1. krist novoselic (nirvana) - censorship
2. woody harrelson (actor) - hemp, envronment & associated issues
3. todd mccormick (activist) - medical marijuana
4. kennedy (mtv) - personal responsibility
(more tba)


october 27th
university of florida, gainesville, fl
capacity:  12,000

1. krist novoselic (nirvana) - censorship
2. kennedy (mtv) - personal responsibility
3. woody harrelson (actor) - hemp, envronment & associated issues
4. todd mccormick (activist) - medical marijuana
5. amy ray (indigo girls) - zapatistas
6. cecilia rodriguez (activist) - zapatistas


---------------------------
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hi!

i was asked by the tour organizaers to forward the following information to
the list.  as soon as i get more, i'll forward that as well.   the website is
apparently down right now, but they are checking on that.  the address is:
http://www.spitfiretour.com

=)
lisa

******************************************************************************
*************

musicians, actors & activists
come together for first ever
'spitfire tour'

speakers include krist novoselic (nirvana), woody harrelson (actor), amy ray
(indigo girls), jello biafra (dead kennedy's), exene cervenka (x), kennedy
(mtv) & many more.

the spitfire tour is the first ever package tour of musicians, actors, and
activists speaking out on global affairs.  the spitfire tour was co-concieved
by human rights activist zach de la rocha (rage against the machine).

the spitfire tour, which will be moderated by free speech advocate krist
novoselic (nirvana/jampac), will visit college campuses throughout october.
krist will be joined by a minimum of four other artists per date. the
objective is to expose, enlighten and entertain, while instigating action.

the spitfire tour will have an aggressive and entertaining format which will
include music & video elements.  each artist will receive a minimum of 15
minutes to speak his or her mind, followed by a one hour group q&a session
with the audience. venue capacities range from 2,000 - 12,000 per date, and
tickets will be distributed through each college's campus activities
department.

additionally, after the main event, each artist will partner with an invited
activist to host their own private discussions in smaller 100-200 seat
breakout rooms. tickets to these intimate discussions will only be available
through local charities & activist groups, thus promoting and empowering their
efforts. those not attending these discussions can tour the campus which will
contain booths with local and national charities and political groups.

the spitfire tour is sponsored in part by jampac, mother jones, deep e co,
global exchange, rock the vote, the national gay and lesbian task force, the
national commission for democracy in mexico, and living tree.

the spitfire foundation recognizes the impact that these speakers have upon
their audience.  by personal connections and grass roots interaction, we
believe that positive change can be made.  for more information please visit
spitfire on the web ~ www.spitfiretour.com.


dates & speakers:
additional speakers are likely to be announced on all dates.
spitfire will do a full tour across america in the spring.
e mail us back if you would like more info on how your college can book a
date.

october 1st
clemson university, sc
capacity:  10,000

1. krist novoselic (nirvana) - censorship
2. kennedy (mtv) - personal responsibility
3. woody harrelson (actor) - hemp, envronment & associated issues
4. todd mccormick (activist) - medical marijuana
5. amy ray (indigo girls) - gay rights, tracey
6. tracey conaty (activist) - gay and lesbian rights


october 18th
uc berkeley, ca
capacity:  2,000

1. krist novoselic (nirvana) - censorship
2. kennedy (mtv) - personal responsibility
3. woody harrelson (actor) - hemp, envronment & associated issues
4. todd mccormick (activist) - medical marijuana
5. exene cervenka (x) - society's toll on mental health


october 26th
vanderbilt university, nashville tn
capacity:  1,500

1. krist novoselic (nirvana) - censorship
2. woody harrelson (actor) - hemp, envronment & associated issues
3. todd mccormick (activist) - medical marijuana
4. kennedy (mtv) - personal responsibility
(more tba)


october 27th
university of florida, gainesville, fl
capacity:  12,000

1. krist novoselic (nirvana) - censorship
2. kennedy (mtv) - personal responsibility
3. woody harrelson (actor) - hemp, envronment & associated issues
4. todd mccormick (activist) - medical marijuana
5. amy ray (indigo girls) - zapatistas
6. cecilia rodriguez (activist) - zapatistas


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hi all -- i just called clemson's box office, and tickets arent on sale
yet for the spoken word tour...first, all students can come claim a free
one... then they'll put the rest on sale for the public, but all they
could tell me was to call closer to the actual date, no specifics on when
or how much they'll be.  the lady at the box office wanted to know how i
had found out so fast, she said they had just signed the contract....never
underestimate the power ig fans!!!

love
sarah


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ok...what is this song about??????????i mean really about..most of the
time i know what em's riting about cause i know shes been hiding outside

my bedroom window or watching me from behind a bush since she gets the
details so accurrate..but this one...its beyond me....
any idea..what is this really about ( and i don't mean just
choices...like is it about a choice between the language meaning writing

singing preforming or...the kiss..staying staionary long enuf to have a
long term relationship)..theres got to be more..
so can any one tell me???and in simple terms,,not imagery ? terms that
my simple mind (and it is very simple these days)can comprehend these
days..
shelly??yr a poet..canyou explain it???
anyone???
its just been in my mind lately

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ohmygosh!  jane did flirting is a flo thing????????  i am jealous!  she
did it at chicago, but not at cincinatti, and after the cinci show, i told
her how much i enjoyed that song when she did it in chicago!  wow, so she
did it during the encore???  that is way cool!

love,
karen :-)   (who is listening to tengo la vida now!!!)

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            time you start living!"
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well, of course i shoudl have expected something like that to come to
berkeley *after* i left...any chance of it coming to a venue within a 300
mile radius of...ohio?!

love,
karen :-)

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            pierce my spirit but i can't touch you."
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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 15:42:18 -0400
reply-to:     indigo head <s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu>
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hye y'all!

okay, i have a question.  during the suffragette session tour dates that i
went to, i fell in love with jane siberry's music and personality.  does
anyone know if she a) tours on her own ever, and b) has a good web site?
i ordered "when i was a boy" from ladyslipper the other day.  i can't wait
to receive it!!!  i just want to get some more information on her since i
was so impressed by her...and if anyone has a good boot from one of the
sst dates with "flirting is a flo thing" on it, i would love you forever
if we could trade or if you could copy it for me...please?!  at the
boathouse, who did she 'flirt' with?  in chicago, she 'flirted' with
lourdes perez, amy ray, and...ummmm...i am blanking.  anyway, yeah, i want
a copy of that!  okay thanks!

love,
karen :-)

            **************s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu*******
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            pierce my spirit but i can't touch you."
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            time you start living!"
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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 14:44:46 -0500
reply-to:     sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu>
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here is the address for jane's website:

http://www.sheeba.ca/

and for those who are interested, here is rose's website:

http://www.rosepolenzani.com

i'm listening to her album now and it absolutely blew me away.

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sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu
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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 15:57:05 edt
reply-to:     memememi@aol.com
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subject:      oops!  and a suggestion re: boot trees.......
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sorry for the double posting about the tour info......... that's the problem
with being on digest!

and i have a suggestion:  when you send a blank tape to someone on a boot
tree, it would be a good idea to also send a note as to which show you
want.........  i am on (i think?) four or five trees right now, and when you
don't include a note or email address, it takes me while to trace back to
which show you were interested in.   i'm sure the other leaves in the tree
would appreciate it as well =)

thanks!
lisa

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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 15:01:56 -0500
reply-to:     kristin marie wade <kmwade@midway.uchicago.edu>
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from:         "kristin m." <kmwade@midway.uchicago.edu>
subject:      re: language or the kiss..help
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on thu, 3 sep 1998, pooh wrote:
*snip*
> details so accurrate..but this one...its beyond me....
> any idea..what is this really about ( and i don't mean just
> choices...like is it about a choice between the language meaning writing
>
> singing preforming or...the kiss..staying staionary long enuf to have a
> long term relationship)..theres got to be more..

well, i'll put in my 2 cents. i actually like your interpretation, but for
some reason, i've always thought of it as a song about staying friends or
becoming more. like emily thinks that if you move on to lovers, you can
never really have the conversations that you had before...

but many different interpretations is a good thing...and as i've learned,
a lot of artists just kind of write, without thinking as much about the
lyrics as the listeners do...but obviously language or the kiss means
_something_...sorry for my rambling style...later!

k-bye!
kristi
"do or do not, there is no try"
              --yoda

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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 16:39:43 -0400
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subject:      re: amy ray spoken word tour
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i heard about the spoken word tour like a month ago...i don't
know why the lady was so suprised. it was on the mtv webpage.
jeri

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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 17:09:36 edt
reply-to:     jamik@juno.com
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subject:      philly review

hey all.
electric factory is a great venue.  it's a huge warehouse.
just lots of people walkin' around & stuff.  it wasn't sold out.
the crowd was really great, not rude or loud like i heard they
were in norfolk.
my man right said fred took me in the back door (woohoo)....didn't even
need my tickets.
set list in no particular order:

roll the dice
tengo la vida
vestigios
power of 2 (em said for everyone to jump up & down like pogo sticks)
mystery
pullin' a cloud
the new gail ann dorsey tune....the name escapes me right now
ziggy
wood floors
love is everything
way below the radio
soon to be nothing
go go go (amy said this is kind of a new song)  (thalia's verse kicked of
course)
sister
in canada
chisel
(possibly 1 more jean smith piece....don't recall)
3 count em yes 3 thalia tunes:
gabrielle
pale light
cimarron

under your skin
cannonball (thalia & amy doing moose sounds)
midnight train to georgia

i may be forgetting something....i'm rushing.....gotta get to class.
they said they're doin' a few extra songs 'cause they were taping.
jane siberry thanked amy & em for puttin' everything together.
she also called lourdes perez a beautiful latin being or something to
that effect.

great show....friendly people.
nobody hounded them after the show at the buses.
more later.........

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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 19:25:12 -0400
reply-to:     joe <fortunate1@mindspring.com>
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from:         joe <fortunate1@mindspring.com>
organization: fortunate ones records
subject:      ig collectibles sale + native american offer
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hey folks,

i've got a selection of items at discounted prices that you may find
interesting. i've listed them below. please write quickly to reserve
what you want because they go fast. i also recently came across some
really great native american hand woven rugs. i am guessing that amongst
us ig folk there might also be some interest in these. i know i've got a
couple happily displayed around the house. to help make rug buying more
fun, i'm offering a $50 credit at fortunate ones records with each rug
purchased. that way you can get a great quality rug and also some music
too. the $50 is good towards anything on this list or anything on the
site including the non-indigo section "junk and conversation."  to check
out the rugs, please visit:

http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones/navajo/

please note there are two pages and more to come. there are 3 rugs shown
on the first page, which are navajo, and an additional 6 on page 2 which
are different styles - so make sure not to miss the link to "more rugs"
at the bottom of the first page. i also have a few more if you like a
style and want to see other options. please write with any comments or
questions regarding the rugs. i'm just learning about them myself, but
from what i can tell, i've got a pretty attractive price.

if you decide to get a rug, you can spend you fifty on this list, at the
ig section of my site:
http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones/fortunate.html or the non-indigo
section which is: http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones/jandc.html

now onto the ig stuff!

12" vinyl
---------
the e.p. - $300 - now $250
strangefire w/ radio station tab - $20 - now $15
4 song kid fears e.p. with r.e.m. tour sticker - cover shows wear - $32
- now $22
closer to fine u.k. 12" single - $32 - now $27
land 0f canaan + 5 live - cover shows wear - $40 - now $25
swamp ophelia holland pressing vinyl - $30 - now $22
don't eat out of dented cans - shows wear - $20

7" vinyl
--------
closer to fine u.k. pic sleeve - $25 - now $15
crazy game - it's rare for me to have an extra! $120
closer to fine white label promo - $22 - now $15

cassette
--------
strange fire - epic blue j card promo - first ever for sale by me - $20
self titled - epic blue j card promo - first ever again - $20
back on the bus y'all sealed - $6
self titled - $5

casette single - usually missing in most collections
--------------
closer to fine/cold as ice - $15
hammer and nail/welcome me sealed - $20
power of two sealed w/ swamp promo pin - $20
get together/finlandia!! sealed - $30
land of canaan/never stop - $22

cd single
---------
get together (black disc) - sealed - $35 - now $25
closer to fine uk sleeve w/ history of us/center stage - $12
joking - $12 now $10
kid fears/c t f/center stage/prince of darkness - a toughie - $30
hammer and nail - sealed - $15
touch me fall - $12 now $10
least complicated/dead man's hill/mystery - austria import - $18 now $14

cd's
----
reverse one live - $115 now $85
shades of indigo - purple cover - $75


michelle malone
-----------
michelle malone new experience original 1987 cassette - $35 - now $22
michelle - battle him republican cassette single sealed - $20
michelle - big black bag cassette - $15
michelle - live building fires over atlanta cd - $25
michelle - big black bag cd - $20
michelle - signed grace cd single - $15 now $12

thanks for looking. please look for the following auctions in the near
future: get together with holiday greetings/face of concern rare 7" w/
emily/kristen hall alternative radio cd and more. write with any
questions.
we are fortunate ones,
joe
fortunate1@mindspring.com

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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 14:18:32 -0700
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subject:      re: ig stance on taping (kinda important)
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          this kind of sounds like an awful thing to say but quite honestly i
don't care what a&e's stance on bootlegging is. but before i get majorly
flamed for this i know there are a bunch of you there who agree with me.
     how many people on the list still bought "ep and more" and "leevees" even
after knowing amy's stance on commercial boots? i know i did. if they don't
want people to bootleg than don't go on tour, it's that simple. because as
long as ig is tour there will be boots. if there is an early recordings
part 4 i'll be the first to give my credit card number.
      honestly, there are more important things in life than worrying about
someone's stance on booting.
ben(flame away)

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l   - k's choice"                  l
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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 18:55:26 -0400
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howdy y'all!

i don't have a set list or anything, sorry, but i just felt compelled to
write in that this was simply the _best_ concert i've ever seen!  you know
from all the reviews how good the music was...  it was so uplifting to be
hearing all that wonderful stuff coming from a stage full of women!  the
crowd was even more overwhelmingly female than at most ig shows i've
seen...  it was amazing.  i'm going to be on a natural high for days --
weeks even!  i'd do _anything_ for a tape of this show, if anyone has one
please let me know! (hey, that rhymes!)

debbie
alexand6@jeflin.tju.edu

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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 20:33:55 -0400
reply-to:     sb <sharonb@geocities.com>
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i heard from someone at a bgla meeting at school that the indigo girls
will be playing (along with some other people) at a lesbian and gay
benefit thing in clemson, sc on october 10.  and supposedly all the
artists are going to hold workshops during the day for students in gay
and lesbian organizations.  does anyone know anything about this?

sharon

"in the war over land where the world began...prophecies say it's where
the world will end."

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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 21:20:05 edt
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hey jen if you read this e-mail me, i lost your address!

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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 19:34:37 -0600
reply-to:     "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
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hey,

jello biafra is supposed to be coming here to speak on september 28.
(that's what tipped off this whole amy ray/spoken word thing.) since
spitfire appears to only be happening in october (although, september 28
is awfully close to oct.) and good ol' u. of montana doesn't appear to be
on the list of tour dates and since y'all seem to be so much more
resourceful when it comes to finding out about this stuff, does anyone
know if this is just jello biafra or should i buy tix on the off chance
that he might have a surprise guest?

i also e-mailed on board entertainment or whatever it is, but i thought
maybe y'all could find something before they got back to me. let me know
if anyone finds out anything and i'll do the same.

thanks,
amy m.

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date:         fri, 4 sep 1998 11:35:28 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

ben said:
>           this kind of sounds like an awful thing to say but quite honestly i
> don't care what a&e's stance on bootlegging is. but before i get majorly
> flamed for this i know there are a bunch of you there who agree with me.

i know what you are getting at, ben, but i absolutely have
to disagree with the way you stated it.

aren't we all agreed that a&e have rights as people, and
that we should respect those rights?  this means that we
should also respect their wishes, just as we all respect
them for their incredible ability to make music that
touches us all.

if a&e say that they don't want people to follow them to
their homes or gossip about seeing them in the supermarket,
we should respect that.

if amy or emily put forth an official stance on bootlegging
then we should respect that too.  (note, i'm still
reserving judgement as to whether they have changed their
stance regarding booting as i don't think we have enough
information yet.  for the moment, i'm still going with the
stance as detailed in the faq.)

> after knowing amy's stance on commercial boots? i know i did. if they don't
> want people to bootleg than don't go on tour, it's that simple. because as

well, no.  again i disagree.  that's like saying, "if you
don't want to get mugged, never leave your house."  or, "if
you don't want to be stalked, don't become a public figure".
i don't think either of those statements are reasonable; it's
your right to disagree of course...

>       honestly, there are more important things in life than worrying about
> someone's stance on booting.

yes, well.  don't you think we owe them enough to respect
their wishes?  i know i do, if only out of thanks for the
music...

-sherlyn
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sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au                  [sydney, australia]
        "well i've taken to talking to myself,
         and i don't even get it..."    - patty larkin

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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 19:08:58 -0700
reply-to:     amanda <biodb8er@rocketmail.com>
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subject:      recording real audio.
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ok, a few folks have mentioned recording real audio
stuff and internet traffic.

go to http://www.internettrafficreport.com/ and
they'll help you out.  the site measures the traffic
on the net for every continent and tells you if the
traffic is increasing or decreasing, rates it with
numbers, etc.

and to top it off, it's updated every fifteen
minutes!
this might help folks who wanna tape real audio stuff
without static!  besides which, it's just plain
'teresting.

amanda

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date:         thu, 3 sep 1998 22:31:15 edt
reply-to:     noexit00@aol.com
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hey ya'll,
i'm wondering if anyone has a bootleg of the merriweather lilith fair,
saturday, july 18th 1998? i was there but chickened out and didn't boot it,
unfortunately. if anyone has it please email me. thanks! take care and much
love, janet.
noexit00@aol.com

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well, it says i can forward it to my friends... how about a few hundred
of 'em?  hee heeee

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someone wrote me an email saying that they had heard a&e were going to
be part of a benefit concert in berkeley, ca on sept. 26th.  has anyone
heard about this?  i appreciate your help :)

gina
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someone wrote me an email saying that they had heard a&e were going
to be part of a benefit concert in berkeley, ca on sept. 26th.  has
anyone heard about this?  i appreciate your help :)
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in a message dated 98-09-03 22:36:23 edt, noexit00@aol.com writes:

<< i'm wondering if anyone has a bootleg of the merriweather lilith fair,
saturday, july 18th 1998? >>

i think i posted this before, i taped this show but i have to find time to
download that nifty program deb has used for the other merriweather show, and
tweak it a bit. so when field hockey settles down and classes start next week,
i should have a little more time... so i will announce when its ready if no
one should step up and offer it.

peace
sasha

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in a message dated 98-09-03 23:18:00 edt, indigouniverse@geocities.com writes:

<<  a&e were going to
be part of a benefit concert in berkeley, ca on sept. 26th.  has anyone
heard about this? >>


i would be interested to know the answer to this question too.

lynn  :-)   <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">tahmehawk's
place</a>

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hi,
   i am wondering if anyone knows how i can get a copy of color me grey, an album
put out by amy ray.  i would really appreciate any information anyone can give.
thank you.

                                                nick

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hey folks,

this was sent to the news list...

-sherlyn
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sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au                  [sydney, australia]
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         and i don't even get it..."    - patty larkin

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subject: [ig-news] the spitfire tour

hi,

more information on the "spitfire tour".....

gail :)
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oh, take me there....

check out my home page at: http://members.wbs.net/homepages/i/n/d/indigoscot.html
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from: onboardent@aol.com
date: thu, 3 sep 1998 22:04:01 edt
to: indigoscot@yahoo.com
subject: re: the spitfire tour

thanks for the note.  here's the deal....

spitfire dates & speakers

october 1st:  clemson university, sc
littlejohn coliseum, capacity 10,000
tickets free to students, $10 general public

1. krist novoselic (nirvana) - free speech, censorship
2. kennedy (mtv) - personal responsibility
3. woody harrelson (actor) - hemp, environment, todd
4. todd mccormick (activist) - medical marijuana
5. amy ray (indigo girls) - gay rights, tracey
6. tracey conaty (activist) - gay and lesbian rights

october 18th:  uc berkeley, ca
zellerbach hall, capacity 2,000
tickets $15 students & general public

1. krist novoselic (nirvana) - free speech, censorship
2. kennedy (mtv) - personal responsibility
3. woody harrelson (actor) - hemp, environment, todd
4. todd mccormick (activist) - medical marijuana
5. exene cervenka (x) - society=92s toll on mental health

october 26th:  vanderbilt university, nashville tn
langford auditorium, capacity 1,500
ticket price tba

1. krist novoselic (nirvana) - free speech, censorship
2. woody harrelson (actor) - hemp, environment, todd
3. todd mccormick (activist) - medical marijuana
4.  kennedy (mtv) - personal responsibility
5.  jello biafra (dead kennedy=92s) - politics

october 27th:  university of florida, gainesville, fl
o=92connell center, capacity:  12,000=09
tickets free to students & general public too

1. krist novoselic (nirvana) - free speech, censorship
2. kennedy (mtv) - personal responsibility
3. woody harrelson (actor) - hemp, environment, todd
4. todd mccormick (activist) - medical marijuana
5.  amy ray (indigo girls) - zapatistas
6.  cecilia rodriguez (activist) - zapatistas

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hey folks,

again, from the news list...

-sherlyn
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sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au                  [sydney, australia]
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subject: [ig-news] o'connell center (spitfire tour info)

hi,

more info i forgot to add in the first email.  sorry!

stephen c. o'connell center
suite 1232
po box 115850
gainesville, fl 32611-5850

phone (352) 392-5500
fax (352) 392-7106
tdd 1-800-955-8771
event and technical services (352) 392-6535

thank you and goodnight.  zzzzzz.

gail :)


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does anyone hav ea bood with that song on it yet

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the only thing i could think of was the bread and roses concert but
could not find any info on this year's show on their site. i did find a
picture of a&e from their concert there in 96 at
http://www.breadandroses.com/jpegs/perfomers.note/indigo.cover.h.jpeg

cheers,

monique

gina wrote:
>
> someone wrote me an email saying that they had heard a&e were going to
> be part of a benefit concert in berkeley, ca on sept. 26th.  has
> anyone heard about this?  i appreciate your help :)
>
> gina
>  indigo universe

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sasha wrote:
>i have to find time to
>download that nifty program deb has used for the other merriweather
show, and
>tweak it a bit.

can you guys tell a little more about the program? is it free online
somewhere? what other equipment do you need with it?  etc etc etc.

jill, who wants to master the cincy show herself

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hey there folks,

        glad to be back from a kick butt vacation.  4 sst's and all were
great!  happy to meet mel, jami, marivel, sandy, beth, eddie...ahhh who
am i forgetting...we need to make this an annual, follow the bus tour.
or maybe some of you already have.  :o)  sorry i missed you kristin &
karen...seemed to be finding all kinds of people from the list, everyone
except those i was supposed to find.

        anyway, i digress from the purpose of this post!  sorry!

        we have the name... "intimate strangers"... thanks to missy for
finishing that up while i was road block trippin' across the country.
:o)
        now we need to decide what to put them on, and how/where we want the
"is" to go...  we need suggestions.  anyone got some good ideas?

        let me know.  jules@mr.net

        this is going to be a short one... how about from the time you receive
this post until monday 8:00 pm pst.

        waiting to hear from all...
        we're getting closer, it will just be a couple more weeks all!  bear
with me please.  and if anyone has any better ideas on how to do this,
please email me privately, no need to fill up the list with stuff that
should be private.

        thanks for your time!

        hope to hear from you...

        thanks

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hi --

i'm fairly new to the list and to the world of boots.  so i'm looking for
anyone who can get me some ig boots.  i'd be interested in some suffragette
boots (especially chicago boots -- i was there the 2nd night and it was
awesome!!).

if anyone has any sst boots or any other ig boots that they would be willing
to copy and send to me, please send me some e-mail.  i really appreciate
anyone who can help me.  if you can't send me any boots and just want to chat
about ig music feel free to send some mail my way.  thanx!!    --gina :)

send e-mail to:  ginacam@aol.com

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are we thinkin' tshirts or what?  personally, i know that i will not be
wearing the same t-shirt at all ig concerts!  i think a laminated card, like a
backstage pass or a big button would be more appropriate.  but that's my
thought.
jennifer

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1)  i'm going to the candler park music festival in decatur on the 12th and
13th.  (anyone else going to be there?).  daemon records is a sponsor of the
event, and there will be some daemon bands performing.

2)  sheryl jones, i got your acoustic cafe tape today.  sorry, i couldn't find
your e-mail address; anyhow, thanks a bunch!  it's weird listening to them
actually talk.  now you say, "what? you never heard them talk before?"  it's
true.  when i heard them first, i was only 13,14-years old, and truthfully i
don't remember what they said.  it blew me away to actually hear them speak
whole sentences after all this time when i'm used to just hearing them sing
and such.  this was an important moment for me.  i've been partially brought
up on ig music, and to finally start actively seeking out their material and
hearing them...well, it's just too much. emily sounds just like the other
30-40 yr old women from decatur (she's got that slight accent that only other
southerners can identify, even if she is a born yankee)...amy sounds like a
girl i knew from norcross, (lost her accent b/c of too much education and
enlightenment, what a shame!)

3)amy = fire
emily  = water, etc..
that explains a lot for me. i'm a wildland fire fighter and i prefer amy's
songs.
-chee

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hey y'all.....

"life is what happens while you're making other plans".....john lennon
(beautiful boy)

i remember being intrigued by the uptown lounge video and hearing "tried to be
true" on the record store sound system.....i was hooked....in the flash of a
credit card, the video and both strange fire and indigo girls took their place
among my most cherished possessions....  my life was unravelling at a rapid
pace....my interest in music had been at an all-time low....and suddenly there
was hope.....

a few years later, i was in another record store in the same chain when i
heard another cd playing on the sound system.....this one was by a number of
local (buffalo ny) women singer-songwriters.....great undiscovered music right
at my doorstep.....  one track in particular haunted me....a song called
"except around the eyes" by katie miller.....a few weeks later i was fortunate
enough to meet her...  that was four years ago.....

in the past four years i've been fortunate enough to play with many of the
best musicians in this area and i've had the pleasure of seeing an amazingly
diverse group of artists as they developed their craft....

this weekend i'll be celebrating my 52nd birthday on sunday sept 6 at 8pm at
nietzsche's, 248 allen st, buffalo with the help of some of my
friends....katie miller, pamela ryder, leah zicari, tina crapsi, paddy
kilrain, erica pedro, rose bond, lea (prentiss), mark freeland, ray lorigo and
ann janish, russian hands and roman fingers, rhubarb, leon and the forklifts,
and several current and former members of and sometimes y, buffalo's largest
all-woman rock band....  it's going to be a heck of a party.....

my life might have turned out the same if i had never heard of amy and
emily....but you'll never convince me of that.....

if any ig listees happen to be in the area this weekend, please stop and say
"hi"....  i'll be the guy with the red fender telecaster and the ear-to-ear
smile.....

peace y'all....
tim

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omg!

i can't even put into words at this moment what i am feeling.  that show was
amazing! it was unlike anything i have seen or will see again!  well... amy
said when she came out the back door that next year is in the works....

i have read all the reviews for the past month and have wished i knew was the
inside story was... now i know!  i saw jean's eyes, i heard the new po2, i
heard sister and ziggy!  i am in the click now!!!! woo hoo!!!

i am in shock and amazement at how talented all the women are.  and who says
ladies cant rock!  rose is the shit!  tracy bonham was there, as well as most
of luscious jackson.  i got a set list and will post it when i have had a
little rest and can deal with a full review!

jill: from thalia's own mouth!  "down the stream"

chloe, steph, mindy, and all the other cool folks there... it was fun to see
you!  i am so sorry we could not have a more formal list get together, but
what a night!

ok, on to the important stuff!

i got like 19 t-shirts!  i will be emailing all of you in the next 24 hours to
tell you what you can send me. it was 15 for the shirt and shipping will be 3
so total is 18!  i think this is fair, and if you could send money orders that
would rock!

on to the bad news..... they ran out of posters!  i got the last 5.  i needed
3 for me so i have 2 up for grabs.  i got requests for 20 so i am not sure
what is the right thing to do.  btw, they were only 3 bucks.  i can either
look at the emails and see who asked first or wait and hold a drawing for
sorts. just let me know what you think is fair.

i am so damn tired!  i will share my full thoughts tomorrow.

take care all!  babs

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so i'm another recent subscriber who's been lurking for a while but decided to
de-lurk.

the occasion that brought me out of the shadows: my favorite restaurant has
weird, and sometimes unfortunate, music. on a dozen or more occasions i've had
to sit through a hanson song. bleccchh. but tonight, much to my surprise, as i
was paying the check, "jonas & ezekiel" started playing. i usually get up and
leave right after i pay, so the fact that i sat there for several more minutes
so surprised the waitstaff that the manager came over to ask me if anything
was wrong. :)

i'm a 29 year old faculty member at arizona state university, and have been an
ig fan for about three years. i went to the phoenix show in january, but had
terrible seats. a few months later, in april, i went to the zapatista benefit
at the backyard in austin. the fun part of that show was that i got to take my
eight year old nephew along, who is also a gung-ho indigo girls fan. i was
afraid, it being a benefit and all, that they wouldn't play least complicated,
which is his favorite song. but it was #3 in the lineup, and he sang along and
danced. very much fun.

pleased to meet all of you.

and sasha -- who kindly made me a tape for the nephew a few months back -- he
loves the tape. not understanding that i'd never met you face to face, he
asked me to give you a big hug. thanks hugely.

doyle srader
director of forensics
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(602) 965-5578

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look at the lyrics:  this one is easy!
"don't know if it was real or in a dream
but lately waking up
i'm not sure where i've been."
the "lately waking up" is present tense.

"there was a table set for six and five were there"
past tense
it does not become present again until she says
"i choose most of your life goes on without me"
then she goes right back to past tense for some time.
the final past tense is "i knew back then, it was a calling that said if joy
then pain."
now, "the sound of the voice these years later is still the same"
back to present tense.  then: "i am in alone in a hotel room tonight"
then the statement "mercy, what i won't give"  yes, as simplistic as it
sounds, this song is about choices, choices between a relationship or her
other passion.  the song tells us, it's not a once in a lifetime decision for
her.  she weighs this decision every day.  but she knows "what i won't give."
she has made the decision once again.  "the choice still is....."  the choice
never changes.
break my heart emily!
sorry, those of us with english degrees tend to babble. i guess we figure we
conquered chaucer and camus, why not sailers.  what do you think?
lynn

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y'know, i never thought about actually what that song was about. that's so
weird. and it's like, one of my all-time favourite ig songs (after ghost).
but some of the lines, like when she's talking about looking up at the
stars, really resonate with me... i think she's talking about getting
involved (in something), being scared, and maybe losing your security or
something.

sharon

"i could teach her how i learned to dance when the music's ended"
cool as i am, dar williams
*** http://www.ed.ac.uk/~njt21  ***
"i know i'm small in a way, but i know i'm strong"
it's alright, emily saliers

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jules:
this is just an idea.

lynn

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my idea may come someday, if i learn how to correctly attach a file.
lynn

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well, i know i set a deadline of today but i was vetoed by my partner.  she
says she loves making these tapes (a lot of the handiwork is hers, folks)
so there should be no deadline.  soo.....if anyone ever wants a copy of
acoustic cafe, let me know and you can have one!

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just in case you didn't know...sonia (formerly of disappear fear) has some
tour dates coming up in the relatively near future...

10/2 - the night eagle in oxford, ny (phone: tba)
10/4 - tba, atlanta, ga (phone: tba)
10/8 - tba, durham, nc (phone: tba)
10/24 - phil ochs tribute, highstown, nj (phone: 609-259-5764)
11/7 - beacon hill coffeehouse, boston, ma (phone: 617-523-4575)
11/21 - bluemoon coffeehouse, bloomington, illinois (wesleyan campus)
        (phone: tba)

i'm gonna try like hell to go to the one in nj *nodnod*

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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

                                *****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
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this article was found on southern voice's website.
=)
lisa
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come as you are

though "fun spot" means different things to different people, soon-to-be drag
restaurant loca and cafe watershed cover a lot of bases

by gianna messina

combine the fiery flair of brazilian carnival drag with the laid-back decatur
lesbian lifestyle and you'll get a mix that blends as well as oil and water.
but individually, you reap the benefits of two distinct styles and fill in
some gaps in the atlanta scene. when it comes to dining out, or just hanging
out, restaurateur paul luna and indigo girl emily saliers have some good news
for you.

watershed

what do you do when your music is busy climbing the billboard charts and finds
itself on the edge of double platinum? what happens when your band routinely
sells out international tour dates and making hit albums is only secondary to
raising money and consciousness for the native american plight, habitat for
humanity, pro-choice efforts and political change in mexico-just to name a
few?

most people would take a long vacation or at the very least make sure the
nobel peace prize folks get the correct spelling of their name. not emily
saliers of indigo girls, whose latest venture, a gourmet-cafe-winebar called
watershed, takes her closer to, well, home.

saliers, a native georgian, has teamed up with three other women to open a
combination cafe, gift and flower shop on decatur's ponce de leon. the shop's
offerings reflect each of the partner's special talents.

"each one of us brings something totally different to the project," saliers
explained. "we wanted [to create] the kind of place that leslie [zweben] and i
would want to go to-a relaxed atmosphere, someplace close to where we all
live."

watershed seemed to be the solution. "basically we all feel that we're at a
turning point, and a side project like watershed, for me, is a fun venture."

just a couple doors down from ya ya's cajun cuisine, watershed won't be a
restaurant exactly, but a casual meeting place with everything from prepared
foods to go.

the partners, ross jones, leslie zweben, susan owens (of common pond) and
saliers, enlisted annie quatrano of bacchanalia to design the gourmet sandwich
menu complete with plenty of vegetarian selections. the shop will offer
everything from coffee and wine to gifts and flowers.

"we'll have wine tastings and a coffee bar," said owens. "a lot of love and
care went into this, and i think we'll be a welcome addition to decatur-the
city has been great to us."

watershed, which incidentally, is also an indigo girls song, won't have live
music on the menu, but saliers does hope to be on site occasionally. which
would only be another reason to stop by, but even if you don't run into the
indigo girl-watershed looks like is has all the right ingredients to be a
successful part of decatur's rapidly changing landscape and commercial
resurgence.

watershed will find it's home at 406 west ponce de leon, next to your
cleaners. although all the partners contributed their vision to the interior
design of the shop, dominick coyne, who designed floataway cafe, will oversee
the renovation and has chosen an industrial look for the project. if all goes
as planned, expect watershed to open the second week of october 1998.

(goes on with info on loco........)

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i wanted to add to what lynn said.  i'm a person that grew up 3000
miles away from where i live because i chose to leave home for my
job/ambition.  this is how the song speaks to me.  in the beginning, she
illustrates a scene back at home where she used to feel a part of the
dynamic, but she looks in thru a window, as if from the point of view of
the outsider that she feels she's become.  since she once was a
close-knit part of this family, she recognizes where she was, and
where she is now.  then she goes on to say, in my mind quite literally,
that despite the pain she feels at not being there for her family (and
they for her) she can't call her choice to leave them a "regret," because
the "calling" to do what she's done in her life was always, and will
always, be there.  as lynn said, she is constantly being reminded of
this conflict, and each time the issue is revisited, she can't deny that
calling.  it's what she was meant to do.  the "language" is a metaphor
for her vision of herself as a writer, and the "kiss" is a metaphor for the
love of her family.  the last line speaks for the whole song:
"unforgiving, the language or the kiss."  she can't have them both.

vicki

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hi all.  i'm sitting in the computer lab in be and wondering how many other
listees attend the university of kentucky.  oh, and if you do, did you get
to go the concert at memorial hall a few months ago?  that rocked!  it was
actually my first ig concert and joan baez showed up!  i'd love to see 'em
again and wouldn't mind going with some people from the list....

the sfc

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on fri, 4 sep 1998 memememi@aol.com wrote:

> saliers, a native georgian, has teamed up with three other

emily's wonderful, of course ... but a native georgian she is
not!

"when god made me born a yankee, he was teasin' ..."

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hi,
did anyone boot the 9:30 club show from august?
mary

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wow.  last night's suffragette show was incredible.  great venue, great
crowd and of course the suffragettes rocked!  the best one i've been to.

opening act was buffalo daughter, although shonen knife was there watching
the show.

the setlist (thanks josephine wiggs!!)

under your skin
cimarron
chez virtue
way below the radio
roll the dice
vestigios
everwilling
pullin could (this is written in by hand)
tengo la vida
*guest performance by tracy bonham
[i'm not entirely sure of the order of the 3 previous songs - pullin cloud
is written in by hand with an arrow]
go
wood floors
soon to be nothing
pale light
love is everything
power of two
*guest performance by rose polenzani (with amy & emily doing harmony - rose
did "or" instead of the usual "olga's birthday" - at a&e's request, she
said)
[there's something written in the margin here with an arrow but i can't
make it out - does anyone know what was added?]
sister
ziggy
fisherman
cannonball
midnight train to georgia

it was obvious from the minute they stepped on the stage that all the
performers were totally into the show.  lots of onstage antics.  no
individual host like at the other shows, so they took turns introducing one
another.  sulli said amy & emily made up the setlist for this show.  a big
huge "thank you" to the crowd at irving plaza!  no shouts for ig songs, no
screamers for amy, and minimal talking even during jean smith's spoken word
stuff.  amy thanked the crowd several times for their attentiveness.  the
acoustics at irving plaza were great (at least they were a vast improvement
over elec. factory in philly).

some highlights:

*musically it's hard to say what the highlights were - every single second
of the entire show?  i thought "go" was particularly rockin' last night and
thalia got the lyrics right this time :).  lisa germano's song "wood
floors" sounded particularly beautiful.  and "fisherman" from jane siberry
was a blast - lots of audience participation (walk!  what?) on this one and
jane seemed to be loving it.  oh, and "soon to be nothing" sounds very
polished now, like a finished song.  i really hope they keep lisa germano's
accordian part when they record it.  i think it adds so much texture to the
song.

*waiting in line watching the performers pull up in cabs one by one & go
inside - no tour bus last night.  i was so glad when amy walked up, past
the whole line of waiting people, and didn't get mobbed - only a few people
seemed to realize it was her and they all left her alone!  it was funny -
she couldn't figure out which door to go into and walked around
the corner from the front of the venue, then came back around a minute
later looking very lost.  it was obvious she didn't want to ask this line
of fans where to go because then they'd all realize it was her.  so those
of us at the front of the line gave her directions. :)

*watching the performers trying to outdo one another with their compliments
on stage.  jane siberry started it during "soon to be nothing".  she said
"emily" and emily answered "yes, jane?", and jane said "i think this is my
favorite song on this tour", and emily said "thank you jane".  then jane
started a long thing of "well, actually i think lourdes' 'tengo la vida' is
my favorite.  hmm... maybe 'pale light' is my favorite..." this went on
for a minute or two and after it all emily said, "jane, i fuckin' love ya."

*i held up a sign saying "thanks suffragettes! next year?" and got a huge
grin from emily, and "you're welcome" from gail ann dorsey and jane
siberry.  amy said after the show that next year is a good possibility!!!
and i'm hoping hoping hoping that the philly show they taped is going to
turn into a cd...

*seeing amy wearing - brace yourselves - blue sparkle nail polish.

*having emily personally hand me one of her picks!! and having josephine
wiggs hand me her setlist!  yippee!

*and of course, as usual, one of the best parts was meeting all the cool
listees in line!

after the show the performers were going to a party right next door at the
belmont lounge and so most of them hung out around the stage door for a
while talking (to fans and to each other) and signing a few autographs.
emily walked right inside, but amy stopped and talked to the handful of
fans for a few minutes and signed things for people, and even agreed to
pictures!  she seemed very relaxed & happy and not freaked out by the fans
like she sometimes is.

i'm soooo sad for this tour to be over.  as jean smith said on stage last
night, it was an experiment that worked.  let's all just hope it happens
again next year!

steph

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before i start talking about the show, i know someone must have booted it. the
security was the most lax i have ever seen it, someone must have gotten a
recorder in.

like stephanie said, the opening act was buffalo daughter. they
were...interesting---if you like lots of beeping noises and monosyllabic
lyrics. the only bearable thing about their set was the two women in front of
me who decided to pretend as though they liked it, and were really into it.
and also watching the performers go backstage. a question though--who was the
blond guy watching the beginning of buffalo daughter's set from the little
balcony backstage?

onto the suffragettes..

under your skin--this rocked. when i first saw everyone on stage, i tried to
figure out who was who, and i came up with an extra person. then i figured out
it was jill from luscious jackson! she watched the rest of the show from
backstage.
cimarron
chez virtue
way below the radio
roll the dice
vestigios
everwilling---jean smith is one scary woman, like morticia adams on crack. her
actual performance wasnt nearly as frightening as i had expected, but i still
wouldnt want to meet her in a dark alley.
pullin could (this is written in by hand)
tengo la vida
*guest performance by tracy bonham
[i'm not entirely sure of the order of the 3 previous songs - pullin cloud
is written in by hand with an arrow]
go---i think this song is one of the best "new" amy songs--i still miss the "i
am a problem child" though
wood floors
soon to be nothing
pale light
love is everything
power of two--i wonder if they'll do it the new way when they go back to
touring on their own
*guest performance by rose polenzani (with amy & emily doing harmony - rose
did "or" instead of the usual "olga's birthday" - at a&e's request, she
said)---rose seemed really amazed and grateful that she had the opportunity to
be there--she even thanked indigo girls' fans for welcoming her
[there's something written in the margin here with an arrow but i can't
make it out - does anyone know what was added?]--was this the kostars song? i
couldnt catch the name.
sister
ziggy
fisherman
cannonball---amy and thalia making the noises at the beginning:)
midnight train to georgia

this was one of the best shows ive ever been to. the crowd was really
respectful during the quiet songs, although maybe not so respectful during
buffalo daughter. (at least from where i was--left side, about 4 rows of
people back) it was really cool to watch the performer's getting into each
other's songs. not so cool was the guy who tried to push in front of me during
midnight train to georgia screaming "tracy bonham".
on thalia--did anyone else see how after everyone left stage, before the
encore, she immediately grabbed a beer, and lit up a cigarette? the chicks in
front of me were speculating about if and what drugs she was on.
after the show, when they started throwing out picks, some people got a little
vicious. i got one, and then one of my friends actually caught one, and then
my third friend was going for one on the floor. she picked it up, and the
woman in front of her who had also been trying to get it, said "you were gonna
step on my hand for that pick, werent you? what kind of person are you" she
was a little nuts.
i think thats it
peace
erica

ps---babs and kris, sorry i missed you guys! i didnt get there until around 5
min before they started letting people in, and then i left pretty much right
after cause i had to get home. maybe next time:)

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sorry for the nigc.  i was just wondering if all the info that used to be
on hidden water just disappeared.  other than lifeblood, of course.  did
anyone save anything else?  thanks!!

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>>>>sorry for the nigc.  i was just wondering if all the info that used to be
on hidden water just disappeared.  other than lifeblood, of course.  did
anyone save anything else?  thanks!!<<<<

....i was just wondering the same thing too!!  :)  i tried to find the old
caroline aiken web page and it wouldn't come up at all. anyone know if she
still has one?

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> ....i was just wondering the same thing too!!  :)  i tried to find the old
> caroline aiken web page and it wouldn't come up at all. anyone know if she
> still has one?
>

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in a message dated 9/3/98 5:28:33 pm eastern daylight time, jamik@juno.com
writes:

<< they said they're doin' a few extra songs 'cause they were taping. >>

hello.......  taping?  woo hoo!

do you think it is a tape for them to hear and love or it is for a cd for us
to hear and love?

this falls in the stack of things that make ya go hmm...

babs: who took her best friend of 14 years to the show last night and to my
surprise, she loved it!  and in an email just this am, she wants a recording
of the show!  woo hoo!!!

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it was posted:
>on thalia--did anyone else see how after everyone left stage, before
the
>encore, she immediately grabbed a beer, and lit up a cigarette? the
chicks in
>front of me were speculating about if and what drugs she was on.

now, you knew i had to reply to that one, didn't ya? ;)
first off-- i don't see how drinking a beer and having a smoke are
indicative of a drug habit.  i've seen sulli do the same. quick, throw
her in rehab!

i also heard a similar comment at the cincy show: "she's on *something*,
look at her eyes."  for all the speculations, i think they're *wrong*.
i've spoken to her and she was *not* "on something."  you can tell when
someone's on something, you can see it in their performance. i defy
someone to play a woodwind while high. my god.

and i've also read that she's got a 3-pack-a-day habit.  i've been
trained to recognize drug use, and have been heavily involved in
substance abuse prevention education for several years.  i've got to
have some faith in her, and in my gut instinct, and tell you that i
honestly believe all her addictions, on this tour at least, are legal.

jill

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no...they were tapin' it for themselves.
actually they taped most of the shows we were at.
one time amy even said somethin' like they were tapin' for posterity
or somethin' like that.
peace out


on fri, 4 sep 1998 13:27:43 edt barbara todd <indigobabs@aol.com> writes:
>in a message dated 9/3/98 5:28:33 pm eastern daylight time,
>jamik@juno.com
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>
><< they said they're doin' a few extra songs 'cause they were taping.
>>>
>
>hello.......  taping?  woo hoo!
>
>do you think it is a tape for them to hear and love or it is for a cd
>for us
>to hear and love?
>
>this falls in the stack of things that make ya go hmm...

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>do you think it is a tape for them to hear and love or it is for a cd
for us
>to hear and love?
>
>this falls in the stack of things that make ya go hmm...

yeah, like the videotape sulli shot in detroit (of our pogo-ing front
row)....

hmm...

jill

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okay, i can't stand it anymore.  who is sulli?

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hello daemon fans!  september's trivia game at daemon underground is
underway!  this month we are featuring gerard mchugh.  we also have a
special bonus question this month - the first 5 people who can correctly
answer the bonus question will receive a daemon records bumper
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to play, go to www.daemonunderground.com

flyer queen  =)

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i know you're all probably tired of hearing about cooper here.  i've
created a list for her fans and those of ellen james society and viva la
diva.  here's how to subscribe.  go to http://www.onelist.com, click on the
"find list" link, put "cooper" in the search box and follow the
instructions.  i hope others want to join!

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in a message dated 98-09-04 13:34:13 edt :

<< i defy  someone to play a woodwind while high. my god. >>

i don't want to get into the sst tour or crap like that...i think that kind of
speculation is tacky (but i've done it before myself...part
of past oscar fun was the 'who's high and on what' game ;)

buuut i just have to respond to jill's challenge with two words ...

charlie parker

kay bye ;)
claire

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a couple of weeks ago i sent out a blank tape and a sase to someone to tape
the red light cafe show for me.
i can't remember who it was.  please email me privately. thanks.

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> [there's something written in the margin here with an arrow but i
can't
> make it out - does anyone know what was added?]--was this the kostars
> song? i couldnt catch the name.

from what i picked up on the luscious jackson list, i believe roll the
dice is a kostars song.  maybe they did two, but probably not since
they did under your skin.

(i suppose since you gotta wait till it gets under your skin that's
why you gotta shed your skin afterwards)

lori ann (wearing her brand new sst tshirt thanks to her sweet friend
(not on this list) and trying not to get hot and sweaty but not
succeeding in the muggy hawaii heat)

(wow jill was there too!)
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finally got some of my roadtrip report with pictures up on the net.
to go directly to the suffragette stuff:
http://www.5pmrevolution.com/music/ig/suffragette.html

my top level home page: http://www.5pmrevolution.com/

it's very much work in progress. i'll send an update once the milwaukee
pictures are up.

cheers,

monique

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wow?!?!?!?  amy ray with blue sparkling nail polish!  that is something i
have to see!  hehehe, i wore blue sparkling nail polish to the lexington
show last year...wonder if she got any ideas from me?  ;-)

isn't "love is everyhing" (sorry, forgive me as i randomly change the
subject) an awesome song?

love,
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hey yall let me bother you again for a sec...

> the partners, ross jones, leslie zweben, susan owens (of common pond)

ok, quick dumb question...what is common pond?  is it another
restaurant?  is it a typo (no offense to the typer of course)? (i know
there's a band called common bond...)

hey i just thought of something--sue owens--she did "handclaps" on
joking right?

also, is this place really gonna be ready to open in a month?  this is
the first time that anything definite has turned up on this list (and
folks round here usually know bout things before the girls know bout
them :), seems like short notice for all they mentioned.

lori ann (trying to imagine a combination flower shop cafe...some wine
with your carnations ma'am?)
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common pond is an eco-friendly store in atlanta.  emily co-owns it.  it has
a website at http://www.thecommonpond.com  since this was in people and,
therefore common knowledge, i guess it's okay to add the susan owens is
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isn't sulli the guitar technician for the indigo girls? i think i
read that she used to be the tech for kristen hall.
on fri, 4 sep 1998 12:36:49 -0500 sheryl jones
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> okay, i can't stand it anymore.  who is sulli?
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i haven't heard the new version of this song. how did they play
it differently during the suffragette tour?

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at 04:00 pm 9/4/98 -0400, you wrote:
>i haven't heard the new version of this song. how did they play
>it differently during the suffragette tour?
>
it rocked hard!!!

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what people magazine was the telling of emily's gf in? i would
like to read that.  i never knew. anyone know about amy?

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hi everyone

just a note about any and nail polish.

i happened to be at the philly show (another long story).  and i happened to
be at the stage under amy's feet.  now i can *almost* say that amy did not
have nail polish on for the first 1/3 of the show.. but when she was off stage
with jean smith .. and then came back onstage for her part in another song, i
did notice that amy had on nail polish.. it wasn't blue, it was a
coppery/brown/sparkle kinda color. and it was the same color jean smith was
wearing.

for the life of me i can't see any performer doing their nails between songs.
but i guess anything is possible.

more later
kathleen<---who is still way high from the philadelphia show

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i took angel to the vets this morning and my nerves were shot. i hated
leaving her, because i knew she would be mad at me this afternoon when i
picked her up. i was so filled with quilt that i went shopping. i put two
new cat toys in the cage thinking that would ease her being mad at me. sure
enough when i picked her up she was mad at me. i thought of the ig song
sucure yourself that helped me get over the death of patches, but i can not
think of a song to calm the cat and my nerves if there's. any suggestions?
missy

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opps, one other thing about philadelphia

someone standing next to me yelled to amy, "how 'bout a suffragette cd" with
that question, amy turned slightly, gave a "you bet" look and motioned to us
with a "thumbs up" sign.

my thought: after reading the press about doing this tour on a shoestring,
trying to make some money to pay the musicians, why not release a cd where
those involved might be able to reap a benefit.  amy is certainly in a
position to put out a cd (as well as jane siberry).

more later
kathleen

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got a very nice thank you letter from youthpride for donating in honor =
of emily's b-day. after my recent trip to the midwest, i'm really glad =
we picked this as our charity. man, those religious people are scary, =
hateful and self-righteous outside of the west coast. we stopped by =
pridefest in milwaukee and let's just say i'd forgotten how it is in the =
rest of the country. i'm so glad i live out here.

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okay, for all of those in the dark.  sulli is the cute
blond girl who tunes all of the guitars at the ig shows.
lamia made a great page about her if you need info...

http://members.tripod.com/~squeekyfromme/sulli.html

her actual name is lisa sullivan and kristen hall
introduced her to ig and taught her a lot about being a
guitar tech.  she sings on fact and fiction by kristen
hall, but i have only seen her name on the song bed we
made, so i think that is all she sings on.  also if you
were at the 9:30 club show, a&e called her out ot join in
on closer to fine.  she stood on the left of the stage all
night.  she said she is going to start recording after sst,
so if anyone hears more info let me know.  i think she is
the greatest.

karen
who was so happy sulli signed her poster and got her and
tara set lists at boathouse.  thanks, sulli, where ever you
are.


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monique,

i'm glad to live on the west coast too!  i just wish the girls would
come to humboldt county.  good news for us though, ani difranco will be
here on october 17th!!  yippeeeee!

:) gina

indigo universe

monique barbanson wrote:

>  got a very nice thank you letter from youthpride for donating in
> honor of emily's b-day. after my recent trip to the midwest, i'm
> really glad we picked this as our charity. man, those religious people
> are scary, hateful and self-righteous outside of the west coast. we
> stopped by pridefest in milwaukee and let's just say i'd forgotten how
> it is in the rest of the country. i'm so glad i live out here. monique

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<p>i'm glad to live on the west coast too!  i just wish the girls
would come to humboldt county.  good news for us though, ani difranco
will be here on october 17th!!  yippeeeee!
<p>:) gina
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universe</a>
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<blockquote type=cite> <font color="#000000"><font size=-1>got a very
nice thank you letter from youthpride for donating in honor of emily's
b-day. after my recent trip to the midwest, i'm really glad we picked this
as our charity. man, those religious people are scary, hateful and self-righteous
outside of the west coast. we stopped by pridefest in milwaukee and let's
just say i'd forgotten how it is in the rest of the country. i'm so glad
i live out here.</font></font> <font color="#000000"><font size=-1>monique</font></font></blockquote>
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hahahaha!  my kitty loves the indigo girls....hummm, i wonder why?!  okay,
i just thought i'd share that with the entire list!

love,
karen :-)  (who is giddy because she is having a paaaaaarty tonight.  ohio
will be rockin'!  jill, come on over!  ;-) )

            **************s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu*******
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            pierce my spirit but i can't touch you."
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hi, i'm new to the list and am interested in boots from the chicago
suffragette shows (august 25&26).  if any of you guys can help me i
would greatly appreciate it.  respond to tanya.x@mailexcite.com.

thanks so much

tanya ;-)

free web-based email, forever, from anywhere!
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hey--i know there are shawn mullins fans out there so i thought i'd
announce that tickets are on sale for his show at the metro in chicago for
sept 15.  now you may say i don't even know this guy but the tickets are a
mere five bucks.  he was just signed and i am personally going down to
congratulate him.  he is great and i encourage all unfamiliar with him to
check it out.  he won't have a show that cheap for long.  see ya

greg

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okay so i am still in this sort of daze
from the philly ss on wed.!!---it was the best show
i have ever been to and my head is stuck in
what my mom calls indigo clouds---

i have yet to post a review as this "funk" that i am stuck
in is holding me back but i had to add this to the previous reviews
b/c i thought it was really humorous--

jane sidberry asks amy something like---"amy i am going to say something but
tell me if i am out of line---before i say it---"
amy says she is not out of line and jane comments on how she has her own
record label and says "yes i had to sleep with myself to make it to the top!!"
(she went on to ask amy about her rec co.)
just had to mention that b/c i found it amusing
----> along withshonen knife's banana chips and sushi rolls---(thats what i
made out of what they were saying!)

bri (who is stuck in her own little world of ig!!)

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howdy! another friday... another post.

mmva awards:
we've been informed by muchmusic that sarah has received six nods
(nominations) for the mmvas  (muchmusic video awards) which will be
presented *thursday, september 24th* at the muchmusic studios in toronto,
and will be broadcast live on muchmusic that same day at 8pm (est).
sarah has been nominated for:
best video: 'sweet surrender'
best editing: alex bigham for 'sweet surrender'
best cinematography: chris soos for 'sweet surrender'
people's choice award: favourite canadian artist
people's choice award: favourite canadian video - for 'sweet surrender'
people's choice award: favourite international artist - for 'adia'
each week, you can vote for sarah in a specific 'people's choice' category
(should she be in that category) by going to the muchmusic web site
(http://www.muchmusic.com/), so be sure to drop by there and vote if you
can. please note that you have to register at the web site to vote, which
seems pretty straightforward. check out the web site for further details...

sarah on da tube:
sarah's appearance on vh1's 'storyteller's' program will be
re-broadcast *sunday, september 13th*. check your local listings for moew
details.

sarah in da press:
the september issue of vancouver magazine has a small
article and photo of sarah in it's current issue. also, (i know i mentioned
this last week, but now i have seen the issue) sarah is featured in a
lilith pictorial in the october issue of teen people. rex looks great too
(even though she is called a 'he'.. .oops!)

benefit show:
sarah will take part in the two-day bridge school benefit concert in
mountain view, ca on *october 17th & 18th*, along with such artists as
concert organizer neil young, as well as the barenaked ladies, rem, pearl
jam and more! tickets should be available through all bass tix outlets.
check out their web site for details at: http://www.bass-tix.com/

uk lilith:
yes, it's going to happen! lilith fair crew & performers will do
london, england for one show only at the royal albert hall on *wednesday,
september 23rd*!! confirmed artists for this show are:

        sarah (of course!)
        sinead o'connor
        beth orton
        alison moyet
        lisa loeb
        n'dea davenport

tickets are apparently on sale now, and can be purchased on-line
through aloud.com at their web site. go to this location for further
details:

http://www.aloud.com/cgi-bin/tickets/search-tickets.pl?artist=lilith%20f&templat


that's it for now!
have a great, safe holiday! finally, a break from the madness!
jennifer
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at 12:43 am 9/4/98 , swamp ophelia wrote:
>sasha wrote:
>>i have to find time to
>>download that nifty program deb has used for the other merriweather
>show, and
>>tweak it a bit.
>
>can you guys tell a little more about the program? is it free online
>somewhere? what other equipment do you need with it?  etc etc etc.

it's shareware, and it's a great product so if you use it, please register
it!  it's called cool edit, and it's at:

<http://www.syntrillium.com>

you can use it to record from your sound card input (walkman, whatever) to
a wav, manipulate the wav, and record it back to tape if you don't have a
cd burner (i use adaptec's easy cd creator <http://www.adaptec.com> to
create audio cds).

i also recently discovered a program called cd wave
<http://resource.simplenet.com/>.  it allows me to divide the wav at the
proper intervals to avoid clicks between tracks when recorded to cd (if
you're recording back to tape, you can just leave it one big wav).  it's
also shareware, a steal at $10.

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i'll keep this short.
as amy j. informed me, i am not allowed to send an e-mail with an attachment
to the list, so i will try to describe my idea.
                                              2
intimate strangers

lower the '2' to the upper right hand corner  of the 's' and you have intimate
strangers by the power of two.
just a thought
lynn

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hey all,
if you sent your address or responded to my email about the acoustic cafe boot
and i have never responded to you via email, please re-send your request. i
recently deleted some mail that i meant to read later. sorry for the
inconvenience.
janet.
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hey y'all---

sorry for the nigc
i was just wondering if there was anyone who was
willing to help me out with some life struggles
if so you can email me privately

thanks a bunch
bri

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> there's something written in the margin here with an arrow but i
> can't
> > make it out - does anyone know what was added?]--

i think that was the second of jean smiths "songs".  i don't remember
seeing that on the setlist while i was peaking at it during the show and
now that i look at the setlist again, i think that's where her second song
was.

so, someone must have booted the show...please!?!?!?   it must have been
the best show i've ever been to.

also, does anyone know if "fisherman" by jane siberry is on a cd?  i just
went to a record store today and looked through her stuff and i didn't see
it on anything....it's an amazing song!  it was so funny watching amy crack
up when jane put her hands up, meaning to say, "dog" and everyone in the
audience goes, "what?"

anyway, thanks to all the people in line and for the crowd being so great,
except during jean smiths' last song.  i can't wait til next year!!!

lcasey

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hey y'all,

i was at the bookstore earlier today and i picked up a book called martin
guitars, and i opened it up to a page with ig on it.  it totally did not look
like them.  i recognized the guitars before i recognized them.  shawn colvin
was also on that same page with her beautiful martin.  it was a really fun
book, but too expensive for my college student budget.

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at 10:46 am 9/4/98 , mary post wrote:
>did anyone boot the 9:30 club show from august?

funny you should ask. :-)

i'm ready to tree this *amazing* boot.  i didn't record it (i was still in
newport, so my friend took my minidisc recorder and recorded it for me).
i'm heartbroken that i missed it, it's one of the best ig shows i've ever
heard.  this show was in washington, dc on 8/10, the day after their
newport show, and it was a benefit for ngltf.  most of it sounds like it
came from the soundboard, it's that good.  the only real problem with it is
that the last minute or so of galileo is cut off, and the beginning of "the
boys just laugh" has a bit of mic juggling as my friend resituated the
recorder after changing discs.  but this is easily one of my top 5 favorite
boots ever.  lots of new songs, almost entirely acoustic (plus sara!), an
unbelievably enthusiastic crowd that was quiet during the songs and maxed
out the levels on my recorder after them <g>... a classic, must-have boot,
imho.  here's the track list:

        it's alright
        land of canaan
        get out the map
        thin line
        hammer and a nail
        "sister" (this new amy song is really beautiful and haunting)
        least complicated
        shed your skin
        "soon to be nothing" (new emily song)
        "oh rosalynn"/shame on you
        power of two
        cut it out (*very* passionate)/wish you were here (pink floyd)
        virginia woolf
        "gone again" (my favorite new amy song)
        galileo (cut)
        "the boys just laugh" (new amy song)
        "suffragette song (go)" (new amy song)
        closer to fine

i am willing to make tape boots (sorry, it's too long to fit on a single cd
and i don't have time to make 30 cds) of this for about 15 branches, who
must send me a 100 minute tape and an sase (the show is closer to 90
minutes, but the break is more natural at 50 minutes than 45).  in turn,
branches agree to make at least 15 tapes for others.  under no
circumstances is anyone to profit from this distribution, it is for your
personal enjoyment only.

if you're interested, please reply to this message *privately*.  i'll post
to the list when all branches have been selected.  please do not reply if
you don't know how a tree works, or if you don't have time, or if you only
have a boom box to dub with, or if you can't get around to mailing me your
tape for a while... a tape tree works best if the root and branches are
somewhat professional about the endeavor.

with all that said, if you still want to be a branch <g>, send me a message
privately and i will notify you *only* if you are selected.  i will post to
the list when branch positions are filled.  if you are not selected as a
branch, watch for the leaf announcement, which should go out in 4 -6 weeks.
with 15 branches there should be plenty to go around, so please, serious
inquiries only for branch positions.

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the  atlanta business chronicle
august 7, 1998

indigo girl plans cafe in decatur

by barbara keenlyside

one of the indigo girls and three of her friends are opening a combination
wine bar, gourmet food store and cafe in her hometown of decatur, with an
eye toward providing a community gathering place.

"it will have a wine bar, gourmet sandwiches and foods, imported cheeses,
fresh breads, specialty gifts and fresh flowers," said indigo girl emily
saliers, who grew up in decatur. "it will be a warm, friendly place, a
gathering place for the community."

the indigo girls are a grammy awardwinning folk rock duo whose work is known
internationally and whose latest album is called "shaming of the sun."

the bar-storecafe will add to the burgeoning decatur restaurant scene.

hip, cheerful and noisy cafes and restaurants such as ya ya's cajun cuisine
and the food business are sprouting up like daisies in vacant lots and
re-energizing the sleepy town.

"i love decatur's vibe," saliers said. she and ross jones, leslie zweben and
susan owens, who also owns the virginiahighland shop common pond, will open
their new venture at 406 west ponce de leon ave. next to ya ya's and across
from the wachovia bank building. it will be called watershed, which, only
incidentally, is the name of one of saliers' songs.

emily saliers: envisions "a gathering place for the community" with wine bar
and food shop.

"we called it that because it represents, for all of us, a turning point,"
saliers said. "it reflects our ages. the four of us are all in our mid-30s,
{an age when} you look at the path you're headed down."

all great friends, saliers said, they asked themselves "what's our favorite
kind of place?" when they put it together, they came up with the idea of
watershed.

another reason for the name is "we like the image of water," she said.

to emphasize the spirit of water there is a faucet on the new logo. the four
partners hope to open watershed in mid-october.

watershed will be open all day. "we want to reach out to decatur's lunch
community," saliers said. business, of course, will continue into the evening.

"i call it a one-stop date shop, where you can pick up wine, chocolate and
fresh flowers," saliers said. "it will be very low-key and very friendly. it
will be a fun place to go."

dominick coyne, of patrick coyne ltd., will design the interior of the
building, which will be completely renovated. coyne was instrumental in the
design of the interior of the new floataway cafe on zonolite road near emory
university in atlanta.

"it's going to be very fresh, very organic in its approach," michael
phillips, coyne's partner, said of the new cafe-shop's design.

"it's got an industrial bent, with exposed rafters and painted glass,"
saliers said. there will be seating inside and outside the store, which will
host wine tastings and other events.

"it's a huge commitment," saliers said, but one she and her friends are
ready to make.

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date:         fri, 4 sep 1998 09:26:18 -0500
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i have been unable to access my hot-mail account (strange_fire66@hotmail.com) since wednesday due to server problems...ick!  to everyone i'm supposed to mail stuff to, i'll try and get it out today. jill--i couldn't get to the post office yesterday--let me know if you want it to go to the addy you gave me...if you need to get in touch with me, i can be reached at this address...or if you just want to say hi, since it gets awful lonely w/o y'all's daily e-company.

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chance0631@aol.com wrote:

> i'll keep this short.
> as amy j. informed me, i am not allowed to send an e-mail with an
> attachment
> to the list, so i will try to describe my idea.
>                                               2
> intimate strangers
>
> lower the '2' to the upper right hand corner  of the 's' and you have
> intimate
> strangers by the power of two.
> just a thought
> lynn
>

this is a really good idea!   [ann]

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hey boston people! a good friend of mine in going to a big web
conference in boston the end of sept. i am worried about the hotel she
has booked - most of the boston hotels seem to run about 200-250 per
night while this place is only $60 per night. her employer can only pay
up to 150 per night and all the big bucks places are full anyway...

is the 463 beacon st guest house alright? it is supposedly close to the
hynes convention center. it seems awfully cheap for that part of the
city. any ideas or recommendations?

thanks for any help or advice you have. her email is
deraitus@earthlink.net    (mary deraitus)

i am leaving for vacation on monday but can forward any replies sent to
me before then.

p.s. she is new to atlanta (3 weeks in town) so if any non-baigl atlanta
people are reading this feel free to email a  hello! she says there is a
car in the parking lot of her apt complex with an ig bumpersticker...
maybe it's one of us!

paulal

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i loved the suffragette sessions soo much i've been going nuts
with the music in my head. so tonight i went on a quest with my buddy
molly to find as much music from the show as i could score from used cd
stores here in little kalamazoo.
-oooohhh cimarron. oh, ain't nuthin' but a she thing is worth every
penny to hear this song again. yeah, baby!!
-got the breeders' last splah for $1.96 woohoo! (okay, so they didn't
play cannonball at detroit, but josephine played some of the music in
the final jam... and it fits my punky mood lately)
-jane siberry. okay, i forgot the name, but it's the one with love is
everything. i was surprised to find it used. !

go check out your used cd stores! relive the sessions!

and now i have a question... how do i join the jill fan club? i want in
cuz she rocks!

peace,
amy

visit me on the web!! http://www.geocities.com/wellesley/7728


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at 02:25 pm 8/31/98 , the lovely erin wrote:
>i'd seen jane siberry before -- she
>opened for over the rhine at their two big christmas shows. i
>met her on the second night and she was very kind. she even
>autographed my copy of "child". i heard it straight from an
>absolutely huge jane fan that the one to get of her's is "maria",
>if any of you are interested.

well, i have been a huge fan of jane's since "no borders here" in 1984, 5
years before i became an ig fan.  i say the "bound by the beauty" is her
masterpiece, and since i'm also a huge ig fan i think you should listen to
me. :-p  "when i was a boy" is great too (no relation to the dar song), and
is a favorite of emily's.

jane fans have a hard time coming to consensus on that, probably because
jane's albums are so different they appeal to different people in different
ways. "bound..." is great pop, "when.." is... i don't know!  "maria" is
very jazz-y.  "the walking" is very popular but my least favorite, it's
sort of ambient.  but all is great stuff, and jane is struggling running
her own company so do go to her web site and buy a cd if you're so
inclined.  the sheeba web site and more are on my music index.

at 05:14 pm 8/31/98 , l hayes wrote:
>the lovely erin wrote:
>
>> i heard it straight from an
>>absolutely huge jane fan that the one to get of her's is "maria",
>>if any of you are interested.

>which i just went and bought about 3 hours ago.  it has that 20 minute
>song dealy on it, but i liked it the way she sang it last night better
>than how it's on the cd.  does anyone know if the one on "maria" is the
>same thing as on "child"?

the one what?  the 20 minute song is "oh my my".  did she really sing "oh
my my" at one of the shows?  "child" is a holiday cd.

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i got one of these too, and thoroughly share monique's sentiment about =
living out west! the letter gave me warm fuzzies, and made me real proud =
to be part of all this!!=20

peace y'all,  laura
   =20
   =20
    got a very nice thank you letter from youthpride for donating in =
honor of emily's b-day.=20

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>okay, i can't stand it anymore.  who is sulli?

dr. quinn, medicine woman's guy friend ;)

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>(wow jill was there too!)

to quote riff raff:  "...in spirit, at least."  cause indigo babs is
wonderful and saaaaaaaved the dayyyyyy for meeeeeeee :)
(i was there on paper cause babs looooves me, heh)

oh yeah, okay, and babs told me she was talking to thalia and said she
had a friend who was wondering where cimarron could be found... another
listee was there and babs and said listee both turned to each other and
said, "jill!"

you guys crack me the hell up ;)  thanks for everything.

jill (!)

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hey y'all.  i was just looking through the daemon site and noticed a
tape called feral(a daemon sampler).  does anyone know what's on this?
thanks.  erin :)


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>what people magazine was the telling of emily's gf in? i would
>like to read that.  i never knew. anyone know about amy?

ooooohhhhhh noooooooooooooooooooooooo.

here we go again.

i think i'll temporarily unsub for a coupla days ;)


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hey folks,

more from the news list...

sherlyn

>date: fri, 4 sep 1998 10:40:11 -0700 (pdt)
>from: gail anthony <indigoscot@yahoo.com>
>subject: [ig-news] more info re: spitfire tour
>to: ig-news@smoe.org, memememi@aol.com
>
>
>y'all, got this info from clemson university re: littlejohn colesium
>where the spitfire tour will be held:
>
><you might try (864) 656-2461 which is the university union ticket
>office
>(they handle concerts on campus), or call the information desk at
>656-4357.>
>
>gone (again!),
>
>gail :)
>
>
>
>
>==
>mountains of black and gold, sunsets going over the moor
>oh, take me there....
>
>check out my home page at:
>http://members.wbs.net/homepages/i/n/d/indigoscot.html
>three finger cowboy page (* with new tour dates *) at:
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i have to echo jill's sentiments on bringing up the whole unmentionable
subject again.  *please* let's not go there.   i didn't post that information
about the new restaurant to start speculation on the relationship of the
owners.  it's an indigo girl related happening, and obviously of interest to
this list.  let's just respect everyone's private lives this time, okay?  it
hasn't been that long since we just went through this whole thing.

lisa

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hey yall
sorry to waste bandwidth, but i was just wondering who on this list attends
brown university (or any other school in providence).  i know theres a few of
you, i just cant remember your names and/or email, cause i would like to hang
out sometime...

later
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date:         fri, 4 sep 1998 21:29:33 pdt
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>hahahaha!  my kitty loves the indigo girls....

karen's kitty also loves pouncing on my face.

i came back from the cincy show with dark circles under my eyes due to
lack of sleep, red red cheeks cause i drove back to cleveland with the
top down on my bunny, and scratches all over my face from frisco, psycho
puffball o' fuzz.  i got into work, and all the kids were like, "*what*
happened to *you*?!"  they were picking on me cause they thought i'd
gotten into a fight.  they think i go to these darn indigo girls
concerts and get beat up.

whatta nice segue into...more marginal igc from the peanut gallery:
every time i'm absent, they (i'm speaking of 9-year-olds) also start
rumors amongst the staff and the couple hundreds of kids in the center
that i've skipped work to go see the indigo girls again.  i walk in the
next day, and my boss asks, "so, how was the show?" with a wink.  he'd
heard it from the playground rumor mill. :)  (the other counselors have
told me that they've had kids run up to them and say, "i heard there's
an indigo girls concert today in oregon.  we think jill's there."  mind
you, we're in *ohio*). i go to the playground, and a gaggle of girls
forms and tags after me, asking me where the iiiindiiiigoooo giiiiiiirls
(imagine the pre-pubescent singsong voice here) were playing the day
before.  they write little letters on construction paper, addressed to
emily and amy, and ask me to give it to them when i see them.  i found
one as i was cleaning out my room... here's what it says (excuse the kid
grammar):

dear amy & emily
i'm 9 years old and jill a big fan of yours told me about you and i want
to hear your music and i want to be a big fan just like jill
from monica kulow & jill

mo is  already telling her friends that  she's coming with me to the
next show.  ;)

just thought you'd get a laugh.
jill

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date:         fri, 4 sep 1998 21:33:17 pdt
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this is a good idea!! cuz during the summer months if i go to an outdoor
concert i can almost guarentee i will not be wearing a tshirt..too
hot...

*hugs*

lamia

are we thinkin' tshirts or what?  personally, i know that i will not be
wearing the same t-shirt at all ig concerts!  i think a laminated card,
like a
backstage pass or a big button would be more appropriate.  but that's my
thought.
jennifer

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date:         sat, 5 sep 1998 01:23:10 edt
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sorry for the nigc!

leslie and kristen, i need you to email me!  i have lost your information and
need your mailing addys!

babs

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date:         sat, 5 sep 1998 03:01:16 edt
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the new po2 is as moving as the traditional, but just after drinking 30 cups
of coffee and eating 25 jumping beans.  add a dash of electricity, and you get
the most wonderful thing i have ever heard!

babs

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date:         sat, 5 sep 1998 00:44:48 pdt
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have any of you boston peeps ever heard of a local independent music
label called propeller records?  i'm trying to find it and it is nowhere
on the net... i know it exists (or at least did at one time)...
wondering if any of you can help me with this, maybe drop by an indie
music store round beantown and ask 'em if they've ever heard of it?  it
was around in the early '80's.

thankeee

jillyyy

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date:         sat, 5 sep 1998 00:50:40 pdt
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could someone out of you lucky luckies who've got that she thing album
in yer paws please pleeese attempt to transcribe the lyrics to cimarron
and post 'em heeere for me?

you know i love you ;)

jilly

p.s.-- amy-- talk to bar corrice bout that club. heh.
p.p.s. cimarron's sure a gorgeous sounding word... it'd make a nice name
for a girl i thinky.  yeahhh, cimarron rain or somethin.  (what's that,
wild, untamed rain?  heh, my kid's gonna be named after a thunderstorm,
hee hee.... if i have a kid, that is.;p)

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in a message dated 98-09-04 15:28:43 edt, you write:

<< also, is this place really gonna be ready to open in a month?  this is
the first time that anything definite has turned up on this list (and
folks round here usually know bout things before the girls know bout
them :), seems like short notice for all they mentioned. >>

i can't help but think it's cool that emily can still have a life and projects
that we don't know about until she's good and ready.  kinda makes me feel a
lot less like i've been hanging over her back fence trying to pick up info
about her life and a lot more like a fan of her amazing music, wishing her
well in what sounds like a great, funky little shop.  you go woman....

pam

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date:         sat, 5 sep 1998 12:22:53 edt
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happy saturday all!

so here is the final deal:

i have sent two emails, 1 mass email about the poster problem and 1 to each of
you about the cost of the t-shirts and my addy.

if i owe you a shirt and you have yet to hear from me, please email me!  i
need to get this taken care of asap!

and leslie... email me!

ok, off to work!  have a great holiday weekend!

babs!

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date:         sat, 5 sep 1998 13:51:59 -0400
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okay, add this to the "you may be obsessed with the indigo girls when..."
list...

yesterday, i was sitting in my japanese and chinese religious traditions
class, and my professor was lecturing about story and symbol.  anyway, he
was comparing something about shinto to judiasm/christianity, and he said
the words "land of canaan".  i immediatly perked up (you say those kinds
of words, and i'll quickly wake up), looked around to see if anyone else
'got it' (no one did) and couldn't pay attention for like the rest of
class since i was too busy thinking about ig... oh well...

love,
karen :-)

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date:         sat, 5 sep 1998 15:44:16 edt
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anybody got the chords to gone again and/or go

-chee

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date:         sat, 5 sep 1998 13:31:06 -0700
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---chee hill <tcheehill@aol.com> wrote:
>
> anybody got the chords to gone again and/or go
>
> -chee

these are the chords for gone again.

g d c 020010 am d (or 200232 or x57575)
chorus:  em g c 020010 am d(or 200232 or x57575)

i'll post the chords for go soon.  erin :)
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date:         sat, 5 sep 1998 14:24:02 -0700
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this ones a little bit more tricky than gone again..so i'm posting the
lyrics along with the chords.  i got the chords for gone again and go
by listening to the acoustic café show.  erin :)

for f# play (244xxx)  and for b play (x244xx)

go

verse 1:

f#          a        b           d
through the dustbowl through the debt
f#       a    b     d
grandma was a suffragette
f#    a             b    d
blacklisted for her publication
f#   a             b     d
blacklisted for my generation
d
go, go, go

f# a

chorus:
b                                 f#
raise your hands raise your hands high
b                             f#
don't take a seat don't stand aside
e                      d
this time don't assume anything
d
just go, go, go

f# a

verse 2:
f#          a        b       d
so feed the fire and fan the flame
f#         a        b         d
i know the kids can stand the rain
f#         a         b     d
i know the kids are still upsetters
f#            a             b           d
cause rock is cool, but the struggle is better
d
i said go, go, go

f# a

chorus:
b                                f#
raise your hands raise your hands high
b                             f#
don't take a seat don't stand aside
e                      d
this time don't assume anything
e                      d
this time don't assume anything
d
i said go, go, go

f# a


a
did they tell you it was set in stone
e
that you'd end up alone
b                    d
use your years to psych you out
b                                 d
you're too old to care you're too young to count
a
did they tell you you would come undone
e
if you tried to touch the sun
b             d
undermine the underground
b                                 d
you're too old to care you're too young to count
d
i said, go, go, go

the ending is something like this....

f# a f# a b b f# a b d b d f# a f#

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the lovely erin wrote:

>> i heard it straight from an
>>absolutely huge jane fan that the one to get of her's is"maria",
>>if any of you are interested.

then i wrote:

>which i just went and bought about 3 hours ago.  it has that 20 minute
>song dealy on it, but i liked it the way she sang it last night better
>than how it's on the cd.  does anyone know if the one on "maria" is the
>same thing as on "child"?

and then deb <indigo@mindspring.com> wrote:

the one what?  the 20 minute song is "oh my my".  did she really sing
"oh
my my" at one of the shows?  "child" is a holiday cd.--


now i explain:

sorry...yes, i meant "oh my my."  i have it on "maria" and erin said
that it is also on "child" so i was wondering if it was the same version
on both.  but erin informed me that it's not.  she sang part of it at
the cincinnati show.

liz <--thinking she might have made this more confusing now than it was
before.


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my mail got deleted so i forgot who was making these boots...you know
who you are..you asked me to check if i had reverse1..remember???
yep..its sitting right here with the disney special on the other side.
so...can we talk
sorry bout the confusion
pooh

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well you give me the chords to the songs i want, and then i play my guitar and
break my strings.  great! i'm in the middle of woods...middle of nowhere and
starting to get "into" amy's new songs (probably too much) and break the only
set of strings i'll have until next week.  this is becoming expensive.
-chee <--has no life today.

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jill wrote:


> karen's kitty also loves pouncing on my face.
>
> i came back from the cincy show with dark circles under my eyes due to
> lack of sleep, red red cheeks cause i drove back to cleveland with the
> top down on my bunny, and scratches all over my face from frisco, psycho
> puffball o' fuzz.  i got into work, and all the kids were like, "*what*
> happened to *you*?!"  they were picking on me cause they thought i'd
> gotten into a fight.  they think i go to these darn indigo girls
> concerts and get beat up.
>
heheh, i never said that she doesn't have claws.  and i too call her
psycho kitty.  but right now frisco (aka psycho kitty) is sitting in my
lap purring (wait, she just started nipping at my arm...).  anyway, is she
happy because her mommy, the person who feeds her and gives her cookie
dough (!) is holding her?  no!  she's happy because we're listening to the
indigo girls!  is that a cool cat or what?!

love,
karen :-)

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hey yall -

i have two cats - one is black and the other is red...their names
could *easily* be amy and emily...*smile*  oh, but they are boy
cats...umm...yeah but still - they are cute and have great
personalities!  *grin*  (ok, i'm really stretching it...) = alright
fine...*giggle*...i *do* have two cats - and they are black and red -
but their names are moose and crazy!

rock on.
sunny - who is feeling a bit silly tonight!


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subject:      back from mwmfand moving - igc

hi y'all,

i've been away from this list for quite a while.
coupled with my first michigan womyn's music fest
experience, i also moved to a new apartment.
it's been day after day of no sleep and too much
to do.  i haven't even gotten caught up with
the digests yet.  so, i don't even know if anyone
(deb. b?, carol?) has posted a review of ig at mwmf.
all i can say is i thought they put on a fine show for their
first mwmf.  they were "festie virgins", just like
me.  in fact, i held up a sign from the front row
(a space on the grass i had to wait over 7 hours
in line for) which said, "i'm a festie virgin too!
thanks, y'all!!!"  i held it up after the first song.  emily
saw it right away and read it to the audience.  it
went over quite well.  it got her to say that they
were enjoying their first appearance there and
that they'd try to come back next year.  i think what
emily said was genuine, especially when she commented
about how great the fest was organized and the
interesting things they saw there.  the
audience loved to hear that.

speaking of the audience....it wasn't your usual
roaring and "rowdy" ig audience.
at the fest, one of the policies is that no one
stands at their "seats" (spaces on the grass)
during concerts.  if you want to stand and/or
dance, you have to move over to the sides.  you
can leave your belongings at your space on the
grass when you're dancing, but you don't have as great
a view of the show anymore.  so, i (and most other people)
spent the show sitting down.  a sit-down ig show?
yep.  i think that ig lacked a bit of the energy at
first, due to the differences of this crowd from the
usual crowd.  but, they got more relaxed and into the
show as it wore on.  all in all, it was another great ig show.
if the set-list wasn't posted yet, someone please let
me know, and i'll post it.

michelle malone was also great at mwmf.  she
was on the day stage and was on top of her
game right from the start.  it didn't matter that
a lot of the womyn were topless right in front of
her....hee hee....she looked right at home and
put on her usual great show very confidently.
even her stage dialogue was witty and confident.
she impressed me, that's for sure.  the audience
really warmed up to her.  she was quite a hit.

i also have the set-list for mm's show, if anyone wants
me to post it.  i actually got the paper set-list,
and a pick.  not many people seemed to know
who michelle was, so sitting dead in front
and getting a set-list and pick was easy.  i know
there were atlanta folks there who are big fans
of hers.  if you're reading this, hi!  it was nice to
know you were there in support of her.

that's it for now.  since i haven't read my digests
in so long, i don't know how much i should
elaborate on these shows.  people can
privately e-mail me if they want to know more.

thanks for reading.
lisa s.


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i totally relate to this.  i started back to school this week and was feeling
kinda down.  while walking through the library...this book was sticking out on
the shelf.  it was "galileo".  it was not where it was suppost to be...so i
took it as a sign.  as soon as i saw it, i felt better.  like i wasn't alone.
of course...i couldn't pay attention to anything all day long because i was
singing galileo over and over in my head.

what would we do without the girls?

thanks for listening,
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hi all,

i just got my hands on the new mongrels "big cup of empty" today and all i
can say is wow.  for those of you who either aren't familiar with them or
have been hesitating ordering them  from daemon, all i can say is "do it!"
new mongrels is made up of amy, emily, michael lorant, michelle malone,
caroline aiken, sheila doyle, gerard mchugh, dede vogt and a host of other
musicians (whose names i don't recognize, unfortunately), all playing and
singing the folky, rocky, funky songs of haynes brooke (who also sings and
plays on the cd).  not everyone plays/sings on every song, so don't get
this expecting to hear ig.  a+e don't even sing together on any of the
songs, but they each have a strong vocal turn (a on" guy lombardo" and e on
"shooting from the sky").  it's just cool to hear a+e doing some non-indigo
stuff (for those of us not lucky enough to see suff sess in person....)
anyway, it's pretty cool.  new mongrels also have a cd called "not dead
(yet)" and both are available at www.monsterbit.com/daemon.  so enjoy!

aj (happy, safe labor day everyone!)

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i like the idea of intimate strangers by the power of 2. i think it will
look neat. also while i am thinking of it. does anyone know if there is a
beanie babie e-mail list? missy

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howdy all, i'm back on the list under my own name now instead of as jmonfort.
no more identity crisises for me. so i booted musikfest and i don't think i've
seen anyone else offer a boot of this on the list. mine is pretty good, not
excellent or anything, but quite listenable. the set list is:
three hits * it's alright * joking * power of 2 * shame on you * least
complicated * tried to be true * get out the map * go * ghost * gone again *
thin line * galileo * little darling (y'know, that uranium mining song) * shed
your skin * closer to fine
the one thing is, i'm at school and can't dub tapes right now. i'd be glad to
set up trades or give my address for sending blanks right now and then i can
work on dubbing while i'm home for vacation in october and november. so if you
want a copy, and are willing to be patient, email me and i'll set ya up. if
anyone wants to help out with dubbing, let me know and i'll see if i have
enough requests to need help. is that it? i guess so. happy indigo dreams to all.
-sam (who still really wishes she could've seen a suffragette show)

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>i just got my hands on the new mongrels "big cup of empty" today and
all i
>can say is wow.  for those of you who either aren't familiar with them
or
>have been hesitating ordering them  from daemon, all i can say is "do
it!"


hey everyone--
i second that!!!  i love the new mongrels.  i have both of the cds, but
i like "big cup of empty" a little better.  it's the second album,
and it seems like they grew over time, and the music is more together
and passionate.  but both albums are great!  if you were thinking about
getting one, definitely do it.

---kelly

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what?


hehehe

i am so tired!  this sst shopping spree has been an exhausting undertaking.
thank you all for your kind words and you sweet email!  i love you jen!  and
to jill, thank you for being fair.  jill forgot she asked someone else to get
her a shirt as well, so now i can have one!  duhhh i forgot to add my own name
to the shirt list!

well, i am sleepy and i am babbling!

love to this amazing list!

babs: who has the day off tomorrow and plans to sleep all day!

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ok folks, so i know this is wayyyy far off and probably crazy on my part.. but
myself and a list member, ahem, jules hung out at the chicago sufferagette,
and thought of another one of the master plans... with all the shit that goes
on... everyone meeting someone at this and that show and da da da, i think it
would be an awesome idea to have an annual list meet... whaddaya think?  ok..
so everyone who puts in their two cents.. we could come up with a central
location...just maybe two evenings of the truest ig fans in america.. give us
all a chance to finally meet each other, jam together, and just have a dandy
ole time.. who knows.. e-n-a might even decide to make a surrrrrprise
visitation wooo haaa~~~~~  ok, so i realize i am posting this at 2:49 in the
morning, but can i really help it after seeing boys on the side again?  ack!
i cant get away from dem grrrls for not even 2 hrs!!  well shit.. you guys and
gals all tell me what you think okey dokey?
annual listee meet... somewhere in de middle....

indigoodnight all,
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>ok folks, so i know this is wayyyy far off and probably crazy on my part.. but
>myself and a list member, ahem, jules hung out at the chicago sufferagette,
>and thought of another one of the master plans... with all the shit that goes
>on... everyone meeting someone at this and that show and da da da, i think it
>would be an awesome idea to have an annual list meet... whaddaya think?
<snip>>
hey sounds like  a plan to me!!! hows about vancouver??

bron
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hey everybody!!

i am finally back from my hellish summer.  i have missed all y'all
sooooo much.  y'all don't even know.  i had a kickn' summer as i hope
y'all did.  yeah for summer.

well for the ig related stuff~

i missed lilith in san diego cuz i was at a thespian conference.  but
about 30 of my friends went and said it rocked!  plus my friend andy got
some awesome pics of the girls.  i am trying to convince her to let me
borrow the negatives.  yeah!!

i work at a girl scout camp.  there was a huge ig epidemic.  everyone
was listening to the girls.  very exciting.

i don't know if it is just my friends and me but lately we have been
doing interpretive dances to everything.  but the best one is done by
two of my friend and touch me fall.

i can't remember what else i had to say.  but it is wonderful to see
y'all's names again.  they are like seeing my other friends names.  i
don't know if y'all can understand my babble but yeah!!

love and big wet kisses~
luna

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this was just posted today on the ig official site message board:

next tour
          next tour should start in june 99 look for this tour
          to be routed similiarly to the summmer tour of 97
          with definate multiple nights in seattle denver-red
          rocks of course and salt lake city
          09/06/1998 00:33:37 by the source

i'm barely recovered from the excitment of lilith/ss this summer and
already salivating about next summer!  woohoo!

diane

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hi y'all!

was at tower records this past week, and picked up the pulse! magazine
and there was an article on artists going the independent route--and
jane siberry was one that was featured.  this is from the september 1998
issue:
*snip*

"sent down to the minors?": erstwhile major-label artists go the
independent route  by john diliberto

indie artists like to talk about "independence" and creating music free
from commercial restraints.  but deep in the heart of every indie
artist--except maybe fugazi and ani difranco--there's a major-label
record contract waiting for a name to be inked in blood.  over the
years, the road from indie to major has been a one-way street paved with
fool's gold for many, the brass ring for a few.  but lately, some
artists have been reversing course, doing the equivalent of a baseball
player jumping from the major leagues to the minors.

some left major labels because they had no choice--the major labels left
them.  but others have opted for the indie life to make music they
wanted to make, or to make more of the money that majors gobble up as
the price of artistic serfdom....

jane siberry isn't concerned with credibility.  she's always been true
to her art, no matter how much it hurt her career.  siberry has taken
the most unusual path of any musician who has departed the majors: after
the disappointing label support and response to her brilliant 1995
album, maria, she and reprise records severed their relationship.

siberry founded her own label, sheeba; she felt reprise couldn't
accommodate her muse.  "i have a lot of ideas," she says.  "for example,
with maria, i had a book that went with one of the songs and a companion
dance record, and that's how i think.  but here was no comprehension by
the label of what i was trying to do.  and because i was relying on
other people, i lost my drive to do it.  now, i'm only limited by cash
and not by other people's perceptions."

in 1996, she released an album of early demos and home recordings called
teenager.  she followed that up with child, the first of a planned
trilogy of albums.  she also put out a hilarious audio-verite ep to her
fans and a small booklet of poems.  "i don't feel like i'm going
backwards," siberry says quietly from her home in toronto.  "i feel like
i'm going underground."

she started full of positive energy, hiring staff, setting up new
management and distribution.  "it seemed easy," she recalls.  she'd
hoped to use indie distributors and the internet to get her music out,
but a series of weak personnel choices, unforeseen failures and bad
planning caused her to retreat completely.  "right now, i have no
interest or energy in any kind of growth," she says.  "i just want to
close the doors and cut off any tentacles that have reached out into
that industry.  i'm out of the industry loop--maybe forever, maybe not.
"  siberry says her music will only be available from her
website[http://www.sheeba.ca].

*snip*

what caught my eye when i turned the page, was a picture of jane siberry
with her hands together forming a "w" except her thumbs are not
touching.  ah, suffragette withdrawal!

diane

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could somebody tell me what city in sc clemson is in?  i'm debating whather i
want to go or not...  trying to figure out the mileage and the drive-time
involved.

thanks!
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> trooper wrote:

> would be an awesome idea to have an annual list meet... whaddaya think?  ok..
> so everyone who puts in their two cents.. we could come up with a central
> location...

as long as you take israel into account when defining "central" i'm with ya!!  or,
maybe, we can have annual ig conventions, and an ig "getaway" every third year or
so - go to some of the less "central" areas populated by people on this list!!

we could all stay by me and go camping in the sinai.  or...
i ain't never been to australia.  sherlyn, could we all crash?!!! ;-)
any more ideas? ;-)

here's to true blue...
er i meant, true indigo
fans!!!

michal
who doesn't have the excuse that it's 2:30 a.m. - but didn't sleep and took her
last final this morning, and is getting on a plane in 48 hours... woo hoo!!!!  see
y'all soon!!

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hey y'all... that message regarding a listfest (!!) got me thinking...
about music, of course, and you all... and i was just wondering...
so many of us play and write music/songs, and sing.... and i know
bethany has that cover tape that she'll be getting out to us all soon
(no pressure girl!!  ;-)... and other people have mentioned hearing
listmembers music and saying they rock....
y'know, i'd really love to hear all of you doing your own stuff (tim,
lamia... i've talked to at least a dozen of you who've told me you
play....)  and i think it would be amazing to arrange for a
"listtape"... we could even put one out every coupla years!  who knows,
maybe we'd even get "discovered" and become one huge band...!!! and go
on tour!!  and hav our own list!!
joking (and dreaming ;-) aside, i'd love to organize this, but i don't
think i have the technical ability - meaning, i'm going to be in l.a.
till oct. 27th, and i'm not even sure we have good stereo equipment
there, and i sure as hell don't have it here in israel.  tho' maybe i
could do it at a friend's........
uhmmm, anyone interested?  someone wanna help?
let me know!!!

michal

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hey!!! the greatest thing happened when i went to my hairdresser....
he started telling me how people kept stealing his cds, and he wanted to
get new ones, but didn't know what to get.
so, who can finish the story? ;-)
right!
so i asked him if he's heard of ig (this is in israel, people!!) and he
said yes, they're nice.  so i told him to get their double-live cd set -
but remembered that you just can't find them round here!!  so i offered
to bring him back 1,200 curfews from the states!! not realizing that i
was offering from purely selfish motivation, he said that if i brought
him that, we'd trade - he'd give me highlights for the cds!!!  hee
hee!!  i get to listen to good music and get highlights for half what it
costs!!!  and spread that wonderful ig music to the israeli populace!!
go me!!!!
so next time you're in israel and you need a haircut - go to dave's in
jerusalem.
ask him to play ig.  he'll have it!!! ;-)

luv to y'all!!
michal

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> trooper wrote:

> would be an awesome idea to have an annual list meet... whaddaya think?  ok..
> so everyone who puts in their two cents.. we could come up with a central
> location...

as long as you take israel into account when defining "central" i'm with
ya!!  or,
maybe, we can have annual ig conventions, and an ig "getaway" every
third year or
so - go to some of the less "central" areas populated by people on this
list!!

we could all stay by me and go camping in the sinai.  or...
i ain't never been to australia.  sherlyn, could we all crash?!!! ;-)
any more ideas? ;-)

here's to true blue...
er i meant, true indigo
fans!!!

michal
who doesn't have the excuse that it's 2:30 a.m. - but didn't sleep and
took her
last final this morning, and is getting on a plane in 48 hours... woo
hoo!!!!  see
y'all soon!!

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>in yer paws please pleeese attempt to transcribe the lyrics to
>cimarron and post 'em heeere for me?

here is my attempt...

cimarron by come

don't talk to me
when my eyes are full
imagining everything i do
something's not right
every star has missed its mark tonight
(             ) scream into the corner of my eye

a lover's knife is always cold
show me how it will unfold
don't you have my (blind spot)
around the corner from my (eye spy)
we can't see the night
i got you in my sights
now if you ever will try to spin me around
you can take it like a (bass)
or you can just put your fist down

i pretend that when i hold you
i pretend that i can hold you
(                           )
(                           )


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date:         sun, 6 sep 1998 10:18:14 -0700
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so i was listening to one of eddie's boots w/ ig friends looking for the =
one that has this funny interaction between amy, cooper and kelly hogan. =
haven't found it yet but i found the one where amy sings reunion for the =
first time, on the day when she finished it. it just reminded me that it =
always seems to me like when amy says "i have no need for anger with =
intimate strangers", she's not making said intimate strangers sound too =
cool.
in fact she seems to be somewhat negative towards them, and this is her =
way of telling herself it's not worth being angry at these people.

am i reading this completely wrong?

monique

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date:         sun, 6 sep 1998 12:13:12 -0500
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vancouver's too far west.  how 'bout madison :)


sheryl jones
sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu

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how about vermont?  anyone live in vermont?

erin sue

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if a listmeet were to happen, i think it might make sense to have it in
atlanta or another place with similar ig significance, like a pilgrimage to
mecca (hee hee.)

emily

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clemson is near greenville, south carolina, in the northern part of the state.
can you or someone else please tell me more about this thing in clemson?

sharon

lisa savu wrote:

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> want to go or not...  trying to figure out the mileage and the drive-time
> involved.
>
> thanks!
> lisa
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hmm... definately a thought monique.... i still like the idea, but that is
something to consider...

- and a few more thoughts bout this annual list meet-i am all for that idea of
maybe doing habitat for humanity for a couple of days (monique's idea)... and
then jamming and camping (?) during the night... cookouts, (cuz i know jules
can barbeque oh so well!), guitars, violins, banjo's, whatever you can bring,
cards, beer, apple juice, whatever!  maybe, just maybe, this could be an
emily's birthday 1999 gift?  eh?  of course, if this all worked out, it would
take some serious planning, and some serious convincing.. ya know, getting ig
to stop by :)  ok, that's all.. thanks for listening ...

good day,
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i've belonged to another music email list for almost 2 years now.........i was
telling jules about this when we were in atlanta together a few weeks
ago...........they plan listmeets that are centrally located to all the
fans...........they try to pick the most central place............they have
had 2 or 3 in texas and it seems to work out really well there.  they also
have some in california where this musical group is/was centered.  they are
having a huge one this summer that marks a 30th anniversary
there.............atlanta sounds great because you could incorporate so many
things that are ig-related and everyone wants to go there if they have not
been already..........but i guess if you are just into visitin', sharin'
music, tradin' stuff (photos, boots, etc.), telling' stories and all that any
central place would be fine...........we just gotta realize where everyone is
on this list..........a big percentage seems to be down south and in the
northeast with others scattered about in the west, canada, etc.  i guess it
all depends on what kind of meet you want.........a touring-the-sites meet or
a get-together kind of meet.

amanda

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subject:      re: cimarron lyrics, pleeeease

hey jill.
i have most of the lyrics....not on me though of course.
i'll send 'em to ya on tuesday when i'm back in work.
some i couldn't make out but maybe someone else will be successful with
the rest.
i can't get enough of that song!
later.
jami


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>could someone out of you lucky luckies who've got that she thing album
>in yer paws please pleeese attempt to transcribe the lyrics to
>cimarron
>and post 'em heeere for me?
>
>you know i love you ;)
>
>jilly

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hello yall,

those of you that were present at the norfolk, va (suffragette) show on
september 1st.  emily & amy both apologize to their fans for the behaviour of
some of the artist that performed that night.  after the show the indigo girls
expressed how important there fans are to them and made it very clear that
this behaviour will not be tolerated again.

(please to not ask me "what happend" as this message is intended for the
people that were at that show)
peace

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hey, ya'll!
        i've been so busy i've just had time to read and delete -- mostly
delete, esp. stuff about the sst and 9:30 shows out of sheer jealousy,
considering nothing exciting and that private ever comes within a 300
mile radius of dallas, tx that includes our girls.  blah.  anywho, i
apologize for not keeping in touch with you guys, but things have been
hectic at best.  yes, this is my new e-mail address (not much different
from the old one -- just free!)  and i apologize to anyone i was getting
boots from or whatever that haven't heard from me in a while.  yes, i' m
still here and i'll get in touch w/ you soon...
julie

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hi julie,

i was looking at your e mail message, your words "nothing exciting and that
private ever comes within a 300 mile radius of dallas, tx that includes our
girls.  blah."  i wanted to point out to you that just this past april 23,
1998 at the majestic theatre in dallas, texas; not only were the indigo girls
there, shawn colvin, nanci griffith and graham nash were present too!  the
show was held to benifit "voters for choice".  i felt this show was one of the
best ive personally ever had the honor to be at.  i really felt the audience
and the musicians were on the same wave.  to me that show was more of a
gathering of friends and at the end everyone present sang, "closer to fine"!
i wish you could have been there!

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sorry for the nigc, but can anyone tell me which js cd has "when last i
was a fisherman"?  thanks.
sandy

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hi everyone!

now that the sst is finished, what is the next stop for ig's?

is it time for them to recharge, open businesses, do the spoken word tour,
catch up on the mail, feed the cats and dogs?

we've heard that they plan on recording in january.. but what are they doing
till then? (writing material not included)

thanks
kathleen

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no, no, no, vancouver's the perfect place, as long as it's vancouver,
washington, not that b.c. place.
-sam (who lives you-can-guess-where)

sheryl jones wrote:
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> vancouver's too far west.  how 'bout madison :)
>
> sheryl jones
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subject:      more philly

hey all.
just remembered.....
did anyone mention that sara lee came out to play
during the philly suff. sessions?
oh...& gail ann dorsey said that it was always good to play home.

just though i'd tell ya.

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monique wrote:
>it just reminded me  that it always seems to me like when amy says "i
>have no need for anger  with intimate strangers", she's not making said
>intimate strangers sound  too cool. in fact she seems to be somewhat
>negative  towards them, and this is her way of telling herself it's not
>worth being angry  at these people.   am i reading this completely wrong?

you're right. the song was written after amy attended a highschool reunion.
during the reunion old classmates were being really nice to her and a
friend told her what those same people used to say about her behind her
back in highschool. (in other words, they weren't very nice to her when
they were kids but amy didn't know that.) so the "intimate strangers" in
the song were the people who used to say nasty things about amy when they
were teenagers. i read this in an interview on lifeblood but during the
move it looks like lifeblood lost its search feature so i can't find the
exact article. it's been discussed here on the list before though.

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an anonymous little birdie told me:

>when thalia came out after the [nyc] show, as she was walking away
>babs said, "jill in cleveland thinks you rock."  classic moment.

hmmmm....  gee babs, why'd ya leave that part out? ;)  hee hee.

good god you guys crack me up.

i am so happy to be on this list.

jill

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since we're talking about cats..mine hates the indigo girls..probably
cuz i turn 'em up too loud..however he loves show tunes and sarah
mclachlan's fte..*giggles*

*hugs*

lamia


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<< next tour
           next tour should start in june 99 look for this tour
           to be routed similiarly to the summmer tour of 97
           with definate multiple nights in seattle denver-red
           rocks of course and salt lake city
           09/06/1998 00:33:37 by the source >>

   woohoo!!!!! seattle! yeah!!! it's finally our turn! yay! i'm excited!
multiple nights!!! i'm saving up!!! okay... sorry for the waste of bandwidth!
--katy--

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someone please let me know when they make their way to the nothern california
area....anywhere between the s.f. bay area to the oregon border.

lynn   :-)    <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
tahmehawk's place</a>

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smackenz@scrippscol.edu writes:

<< no, no, no, vancouver's the perfect place, as long as it's vancouver,
washington, not that b.c. place.>>

right on! i couldn't agree more. well, vancouver's kinda out in the sticks...
we could make is seattle! = ) --katy--

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>"nothing exciting and that private ever comes within a 300 mile radius of
>dallas, tx that includes our girls.  blah."  i wanted to point out to you
that just >this past april 23,1998 at the majestic theatre in dallas, texas;
not only were >the indigo girls there, shawn colvin, nanci griffith and graham
nash were >present too!  the show was held to benifit "voters for choice".  i
felt this show >was one of the best ive personally ever had the honor to be
at.  i really felt the >audience and the musicians were on the same wave.  to
me that show was more >of a gathering of friends and at the end everyone
present sang, "closer to fine"!
>i wish you could have been there!


amen...but we have sorta missed out on everything else =(
-laura

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you're right monique!  i hadn't thought about that, but when i was
voting for the t-shirt slogan, for some reason i didn't care for
'intimate strangers'.  maybe my subconscious knew why :)

gina

monique barbanson wrote:

>  so i was listening to one of eddie's boots w/ ig friends looking for
> the one that has this funny interaction between amy, cooper and kelly
> hogan. haven't found it yet but i found the one where amy sings
> reunion for the first time, on the day when she finished it. it just
> reminded me that it always seems to me like when amy says "i have no
> need for anger with intimate strangers", she's not making said
> intimate strangers sound too cool.in fact she seems to be somewhat
> negative towards them, and this is her way of telling herself it's not
> worth being angry at these people. am i reading this completely wrong?
> monique

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you're right monique!  i hadn't thought about that, but when i was
voting for the t-shirt slogan, for some reason i didn't care for 'intimate
strangers'.  maybe my subconscious knew why :)
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<p>monique barbanson wrote:
<blockquote type=cite> <font color="#000000"><font size=-1>so i was
listening to one of eddie's boots w/ ig friends looking for the one that
has this funny interaction between amy, cooper and kelly hogan. haven't
found it yet but i found the one where amy sings reunion for the first
time, on the day when she finished it. it just reminded me that it always
seems to me like when amy says "i have no need for anger with intimate
strangers", she's not making said intimate strangers sound too cool.in
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how about doing a geographic survey of the list members (those
interested in attending an event) and tallying it up.  then, picking
someplace in the middle would be more fair.  just an idea :)

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sorry if this was posted already, i'm sure it probably was, but i was
unsubscribed.  i'm looking for the set list of the nyc sst show from
last thursday, i know people got copies so i'm wondering if any of them
are on the list and can e-mail me the list.  thanks alot,

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in a message dated 98-09-06 13:23:37 edt, you write:

<< .they have
had 2 or 3 in texas and it seems to work out really well there. >>

hey y'all!

what a great idea!  come on down here to dallas!  just don't plan it for
august :-)

pam

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>emily & amy both apologize to their fans for the behaviour of
>some of the artist that performed that night.
>... made it very clear that
>this behaviour will not be tolerated again.
>
>(please do not ask me "what happend" as this message is intended for
the
>people that were at that show)

okay, i won't ask you.  i'll ask everyone else who was there.  will some
of you boathouse-goers tell us what happened?  or at least tell me if
i'm right in guessing "jean smith"...?  (ha.)

no fair telling half a story and then leaving us hanging... :(

jill

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>...they plan on recording in january.. but what are they doing
>till then?

sleeping.  ;)

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actually i asked emily (okay i kinda shouted to her, but she looked at me)
when the next tour was and she said next spring, after the recording in
january...

but of course, they'll be in the north east in like two days because they
always play here and it's been almost a month....8^)

mike r.

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ok...so i think this would fall into the "you know you're obsessed with
ig when..." category...

the other day, one of the guys i work with started calling me kendigo.
now several others have started doing it to.  i work in a grocery store
and it's really hilarious to hear someone say "kendigo" over the
intercom.  :)

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i love the idea!

it would be something i would love to help plan!  maybe not just for emily's
birthday, but to mark another event.  like the "the next 10 years unfolding."
it is the start of 10 more ig years and this is also song image.

i think habitat is a great idea!

babs

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i second babs emotion!

i would like to go to atlanta, though.  i have never been,
but where ever you guys decide is okay with me.  who wants
to make a list of choices and hold a vote?  if we go to
decatur, we should go to the new restaurant.  anyway, just
my $.02.

karen

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hkf's,
        i was wondering if anyone out there booted any of the ss shows.  e-mail me
privately if you have.  i would love to work something out.  thanks a million.
~alison

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just want to let you guys know i have decided to auction my autographed
swamp ophelia record.  it's with some deep regret, but i need the cash.

www.ebay.com
#29073665

brad

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ok...so today i'm in waldenbooks, and i'm really bored cuz i'm reading 3
books at the moment and there's nothing i really want to look for and
they don't carry any books by anyone that i would read anyhow...so i
went to look at the social sciences section and i saw a book called:
bury my heart at wounded knee!!!!!!
so then i gave a lil' shriek and started bouncing around and i think
that everyone in the store thought i was crazy..but i was excited *lol*

*hugs*

lamia

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i think it could be a cool thing...i've done a mass meeting with net
friends for one board i hang out on (monolith bbs) so it's possible...the
hard part is just trying to find a central-type location...but it can be
done...i think there should be some planning done (if there is enuff
interest) and then posted to the list once something relatively similar to
a consensus is reached *grins*

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>>annual listee meet... somewhere in de middle....

this is the best idea anyone has ever had!!!! *lol* ok not quite but
close!!! yeah we should do it!!!

*hugs*

lamia


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emily d. mark wrote:

> if a listmeet were to happen, i think it might make sense to have it
> in
> atlanta or another place with similar ig significance, like a
> pilgrimage to
> mecca (hee hee.)
>
> emily

there you go! [ann]

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amanda abbett wrote:

> i've belonged to another music email list for almost 2 years
> now.........i was
> telling jules about this when we were in atlanta together a few weeks
> ago...........they plan listmeets that are centrally located to all
> the
> fans...........they try to pick the most central place............they
> have
> had 2 or 3 in texas and it seems to work out really well there.  they
> also
> have some in california where this musical group is/was centered.
> they are
> having a huge one this summer that marks a 30th anniversary
> there.............atlanta sounds great because you could incorporate
> so many
> things that are ig-related and everyone wants to go there if they have
> not
> been already..........but i guess if you are just into visitin',
> sharin'
> music, tradin' stuff (photos, boots, etc.), telling' stories and all
> that any
> central place would be fine...........we just gotta realize where
> everyone is
> on this list..........a big percentage seems to be down south and in
> the
> northeast with others scattered about in the west, canada, etc.  i
> guess it
> all depends on what kind of meet you want.........a touring-the-sites
> meet or
> a get-together kind of meet.
>
> amanda
>

if you want dead center countrywise you are talking st louis or kansas
city or thereabouts.atlanta still seems the spot to me since they are so
closely connected with it and there is em's restaurant as i understand
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amanda abbett wrote:
<blockquote type=cite>i've belonged to another music email list for almost
2 years now.........i was
<br>telling jules about this when we were in atlanta together a few weeks
<br>ago...........they plan listmeets that are centrally located to all
the
<br>fans...........they try to pick the most central place............they
have
<br>had 2 or 3 in texas and it seems to work out really well there. 
they also
<br>have some in california where this musical group is/was centered. 
they are
<br>having a huge one this summer that marks a 30th anniversary
<br>there.............atlanta sounds great because you could incorporate
so many
<br>things that are ig-related and everyone wants to go there if they have
not
<br>been already..........but i guess if you are just into visitin', sharin'
<br>music, tradin' stuff (photos, boots, etc.), telling' stories and all
that any
<br>central place would be fine...........we just gotta realize where everyone
is
<br>on this list..........a big percentage seems to be down south and in
the
<br>northeast with others scattered about in the west, canada, etc. 
i guess it
<br>all depends on what kind of meet you want.........a touring-the-sites
meet or
<br>a get-together kind of meet.

<p>amanda
<br><a href="http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/ig"></a> </blockquote>
if you want dead center countrywise you are talking st louis or kansas
city or thereabouts.atlanta still seems the spot to me since they are so
closely connected with it and there is em's restaurant as i understand
it, there too...[ann]
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>>any more ideas? ;-)

just a thought..k's choice does their conventions in belgium cuz that's
where they're from..maybe we should do it around atlanta? that would
give ppl who maybe have never been a chance/excuse to go to all the
indigorelated sites like the flying biscuit, the soon to open watershed,
places like that!! maybe even see a daemon artist play somehwere..ya
never know!

*hugs*

lamia
*who really just wants an excuse to go to atlanta*

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>>y'all!!

methinks she is picking up more of my lil idiosyncracies!! (s/p?) but
she's spelling it right! :p so i guess i need to keep trying to be a bad
influence....!!! oh michal...come closer *eg* i will corrupt you
yet..*giggles* before you know it you'll be giggling and doing all kinds
of lamia-esque stuff..and then the world will come to an end cuz there
can't be two of me..*giggling more* i'm too silly today cuz i haven't
had enuf sleep...sue me! *g*

*hugs*

lamia
hmm..does this mean i have to start taking on michal's traits???
hmm...scary..oh! well not in a bad way! i mean..um..*shutting up now*

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as my friend michelle and i were at the stage at the minneapolis sst concert,
she turns to me and says "you see the speakers or whatever those are, and the
label that says 'indigo girls--this side up'...wouldn't that be a cool
picture? just the label, the side of the speaker with all the wires around
it?"  and i agreed--in fact i wished i had had my bl&wh film with me (not to
mention the camara to put it in...)

soooooooooooooooo....to make a long story short i'm trying to hunt down a
similiar pic. to blow up and frame for her birthday...would anybody happen to
have a similiar photo to the one i just described?  i'm sure that this isn't
the first time that someone has noticed what an awesome close up that would
be...the question is whether or not that person had their camera with
them--so, if you have something like this in color or black and white (i would
love black and white.....) and might be interested in making me a double or
setting up a trade--i would really, really appreciate it!!!

thanks!!
kara...

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***b****
sharon told me someone had already mentioned atlanta..this is what
happens when i'm behind!!
great minds think alike *w*

*hugs*

lamia
*who's almost caught up!!*


if a listmeet were to happen, i think it might make sense to have it in
atlanta or another place with similar ig significance, like a pilgrimage
to
mecca (hee hee.)

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easy (& sometimes cheap) to fly into. hartsfeld is one of the three biggest
airports in the country (chicago & dfw). it's also delta's hub. if you've got
delta miles, this'd be the chance to use them.

if you do have it there, find time to make it up the road to athens, an old ig
stomping grounds (the uptown lounge definitely lives -- i did quite a bit of
dissertation writing there, laptop to my left, a forest of empty rolling rock
bottles to my right), and make sure you make it to the grit, athens' premiere
vegetarian restaurant, and, in my opinion, the best one in the world! (i'm
wearing my grit t-shirt even as i write this.)

doyle srader
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there's a difference between getting mugged and bootlegging,sorry:) they know
there is a price to fame. if they don't want to be gossiped about..stop
performing! it's not like ig are on the cover of tabloids. if it doesn't
directly affect their lives than they should take a "shrug shoulder" stance
and get on with making music(which for some reason i'm sure that a&e are doing
just that!).
ben(if i ever getfamous ya'll can boot my shows and sell them on the black
market for sell them for hundreds:)

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i'll probably live to regret this, but once the powers that be (do we have a
list leader?) decide what paths they'd like to explore, i volunteer to do or
assist with the following:
1) a geographical survey of list members
2) complete a brief research of other list's annual events
3) tally votes if we narrow options

let's remember the face of our list is diverse: teens, mother's with children
and disabled individuals.
nuff said:
lynn

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on an interesting side note -- gail ann dorsey sings backing vocals on "o
holy night" on jane's holiday cd "child"! i had forgotten all about it
until someone mentioned it on the siberry list.  you can buy it at
<http://www.sheeba.ca>.

at 09:00 am 9/6/98 , ravnswng@earthlink.net wrote:
>sorry for the nigc, but can anyone tell me which js cd has "when last i
>was a fisherman"?  thanks.

nowhere yet, it's sort of new.  she did perform it on "sessions at west
54th" if you get a chance to catch that repeat.

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at 04:25 am 9/2/98 , lynz floren wrote:
>i'm kinda interested in how others tape, because i love doing it and
>want to know what other people use as equipment.  mention specifics if
>possible, anybody taping can benefit from your knowledge.  i only use a
>hand held tape recorder with a plugged in shure beta 58 microphone if i
>am close or inside.

i record with a sony mz-r30 minidisc recorder (i love have 74 minutes of
uninterrupted recording, often gets me to the encore without a break) and
use the mic that came with my aiwa hj-l707 tape recorder.  another big
advantage to my md recorder is that i can put the recorder right next to
the mic without the feedback i'd get from the aiwa, greatly increases
flexibility of placement.  often, i can set my pack somewhere with the mic
right on top of it and it leaves me the freedom to move about (and to wear
clothes that clash with my mic <g>).

whenever i record from md to tape, i am again thankful that i spent the
bucks for the md recorder, the difference is vast.  other nifty features
too... you can mark and title tracks for random access, you can title the
md, it automatically records the date and time to the cd, the recorder and
the discs are *tiny*... i may be getting a md changer for my car for xmas!

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>>jamik@juno.com writes:
>>
>><< they said they're doin' a few extra songs 'cause they were taping.>>>>
>>
>>hello.......  taping?  woo hoo!
>>
>>do you think it is a tape for them to hear and love or it is for a cd
>>for us to hear and love?

at 01:35 pm 9/4/98 , j k wrote:
>no...they were tapin' it for themselves.
>actually they taped most of the shows we were at.
>one time amy even said somethin' like they were tapin' for posterity
>or somethin' like that.

then why would they say they were singing a few extra because they were
taping?!

the philly show was great, i'm so glad i passed on the boathouse.  the
boathouse crowd was just as rude during the demo tour, and it was a pretty
lousy venue all around.  the electric factory in philly and the audience
there were both excellent.  and what a show!  i don't recall ever seeing a
& e have so much fun, i'd be surprised if this is the last such tour we see
them do.

and i owe some of you apologies about jean smith... i thought you were just
close-minded, but she really does suck. :-)  i have very eclectic music
tastes (check out my music index for proof), but she seemed to me to be
just a sad, screechy patti smith wannabe (sorry, amy).  she got such a cold
reaction from the otherwise respectful and enthusiastic philly crowd that
amy must've felt sorry for her... she sent her out to do another song at
the start of the encore <groan>.

oh, and for those who might be wondering... this show was so loud, and i
was so close, there was no chance of a listenable boot, sorry...

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> >(please do not ask me "what happend" as this message is intended for
> the
> >people that were at that show)

   well, that's hardly fair!  naturally, you've peaked my interest and
curiousty!  pls, someone who was there - mind sharing?  *wink*

> no fair telling half a story and then leaving us hanging... :(

    yep.  no fair.

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in a message dated 9/6/98 4:05:08 pm est, tahmehawk@aol.com writes:

<< someone please let me know when they make their way to the nothern
california
area....anywhere between the s.f. bay area to the oregon border. >>
i hear ya girl!!! i'm gonna follow em this year, so anyone else on the left
coast that cares to join me, come on!!!  i have a toyota 4x4 w/ a camper
shell, an awesome stereo system in it and 4 weeks vacation starting may 31st.
let's go!!!

jennifer

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>>if we go to decatur, we should go to the new restaurant.  anyway, just
my $.02.

hmmm since it's a "wine bar" will those of us who are under 21 even be
able to get in??

*hugs*

lamia


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come on.  you can't do this to us.  tell us what happened.  pleeeeeeeeeeeeese!!!!

tanya ;-)

>> >(please do not ask me "what happend" as this message is intended for
>> the
>> >people that were at that show)
>
>   well, that's hardly fair!  naturally, you've peaked my interest and
>curiousty!  pls, someone who was there - mind sharing?  *wink*
>
>> no fair telling half a story and then leaving us hanging... :(
>
>    yep.  no fair.
>
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i have several boots on
http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/stonewall/5548/ it isn't updated so
if you do not see something you are looking for just ask i might have it. i
am looking to make a few trades. missy

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hey ya'll!
i was browsing through amazon.com and found this book:
backstage pass : interviews with women in music
by laura post, dar williams

dar williams!! not the dar the folksinger who i adore??? does anyone
know if this is dar williams the folksinger?? does anyone know if this
books is any good??
here's a bit of what amazon says about it:


lesbian studies editor's recommended book
reading the table of contents of this collection of 40 interviews with
female musicians is like, as the song says, a trip down memory lane.
about half the subjects--cris williamson, june millington, linda
tillery, and robin flower among them--were part of the olivia records
scene; they explain why they needed to invent "women's music" in the
1970s. other musicians, such as phranc, ani difranco, and laura love,
acknowledge their debt to their feminist foremothers...

from 1940s folkie ronnie gilbert to 1960s stars marianne faithfull and
janis ian to lesbian stalwart phranc to sassy contemporary blues band
saffire...

they share their personal histories, insights into the "music business,"
political concerns, and speak quite frankly about issues of race and
sexual preference. these are women who have "paid their dues"; many have
been burned by the industry and burned out by impossible schedules on
the road. yet they are women for whom music is the substance and core of
their lives. the collection includes 35 b/w photos...

it sounds good here's the amazon addy:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/0934678847/r/002-3924750-6493854

if anyone's ever read it let me know k?

*hugs*

lamia
who's all caught up except for 9 messages but they don't count!!


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>if you want dead center countrywise you are talking st louis or kansas
>city or thereabouts.


yeahhhh!!  i'm all for st. louis or k.c... god knows we don't get
anything else very often.  but, i'd settle for san francisco, or maybe
somewhere a little more north in calif, like hmmm, somewhere in humboldt
county????  somewhere, either near home, or school....just wishing ;)

---kelly

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in a message dated 9/7/98 12:08:11 am eastern daylight time,
cypressmoon@hotmail.com writes:

<< >if you want dead center countrywise you are talking st louis or kansas
>city or thereabouts.
  >>
hi everyone,

ya know, i was thinking the same thing. kc/kcmo is a really cool town. the
only problem is: kc/kcmo is etheridge country.

it would kinda be like having a party for hitler in jerusalem. (sorry for the
extreme example)

i kinda think the southeast is the best place to have a meet. that way, you're
able to get a feel for what helped shape the ig's. there is a richness about
that part of the country can't be found anywhere else.

peace
kathleen

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in a message dated 98-09-04 15:26:54 edt, liltree@yahoo.com writes:

<< hey i just thought of something--sue owens--she did "handclaps" on
joking right? >>

   i was just reading the 1200 curfews liner notes (i do this on a semi-
regular basis, don't ask) and at the end of the thank yous (which end with
emily's thanks) it says:
   "special thanks to sue for all we've been through past and present"
  i don't know if it's the same sue, and i don't want to get into speculation
about anything that may cause flame wars, i just thought it was interesting
since i was just reading the liner notes and saw this and the name had stuck
in my mind... anyway..

--kate

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sooooo...what happpened at the show?  the audience treated jean smith
rudely?  come on, will someone please come forward with some details!?

okay, thanks...

love,
karen :-)


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okay people--here's my brief and fleeting thoughts as i keep reading all these
"i couldn't stand jean smith" (and other variations of this reflection)

i can't say that i would "rush, rush, rush" right out to buy her albums, but i
can say that i really got into her performances during sst....she was a great
balance to the (for lack of better descriptors on my part) "happy and light"
musicians in the show.  she was eery and intimidating and just kind of looked
at the crowd with a look of contempt and quite possibly conceit...with in my
own little mind, it was like she knew this secret or had access to a greater
knowledge than the rest of us and looked at us saying (in a deep and sinister,
yet pitying voice) "you fools....if only you know....you ignorant
people...blah, blah, blah..."  i think that the pieces she did also reflected
that too...i don't remember the words to her first piece but it was with
thalia...it was kind of scary in her eery, witch like canter, yet i felt like
it grounded the rest of the show...we were in heaven at these concerts (well,
i was in heaven...) and she brought me slightly back to reality...that creepy,
sinister reminder was in the back of my head (and it still is) like a thread
of reality through this light and fluffy dream...her performances (her voice
in combination with the lyrics she was saying--the images that she was
creating in my head) was the reminder that not everybody's life is charmed
(not referring to "charmed" as in being born with a silver spoon in yer'
mouth)...that there are people out there whose dreams are taken and slowly
smothered...there is an "evil" (and i'm not talking like an evil force...) but
stupid, mean, ignorant, self-righteous, abusive people who prey upon people
who can't fight back mentally, physically...people who crack after years of
this pressure, who slowly die alone and broken without realizing their worth
as human beings, without ever having known what it is to be loved or to have
fulfilled one's potential...her voice sent chills down my back--i seriously
wanted to cry because she reminded me that there is so much pain out there and
i think that we tend to forget that...i think we tend to get so wrapped up in
our own lives that we are unable to focus on life through any other dimension
than the one we live in--and that is why we are always so shocked to find out
our best friend from grade school was abused by her father, or that, hey those
two aren't the perfect couple---she is constantly told she amounts to jack
sh*t....or that he was gang raped in the locker room after football
practice....okay--so i am kind of heading way off course here--but i think
that jean smith was a powerful addition to sst...her voice and demeanor fit
the parts she played the night that i saw her...

so...after all that, i just wanted to share why i loved jean smith's
performance...
kara.

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gosh, you guys, we're having like a list-orgie over the idea of having a
listfest or a listmeet. we rock! we're so excited about making something of
this list. it's like, ig list pride week or something. we should have a
freekin parade
much love
janet.

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okay, since so many of you want to know, here is my
rendition of the events... if you are not interested
delete now.
the event in question was lisa germano during radio. it was
a song on the piano that was quiet and mostly her, and she
got all pissed off that people weren't listening.  that's
what we get for putting the beer garden in front of the
stage.  but anyway she stopped playing i guess twice, at
least, to accost the fans, and for those of us being good
listeners it sucked. she just kept saying she was going to
stop playing, or something like that i was on the other
side of the stage so it was hard to tell.  i also thought
it was a little unprofessional.  there are going to be some
rough crowds out there, but the best performers win them
over, or make due.  she just made it worse by stopping
though, because the fans just got more restless.  i hope i
don't sound harsh. i thought it really sucked that not all
fans could be open-minded, polite, and respectful.  i am
also bitter that i have less then two months till i am 21,
so i couldn't get up front.  if more people like me were in
the front row, it probably wouldn't have happened.


karen 8-)
p.s. i think she might have done it again during the song
she sang later.  i thought her music was good, don't get me
wrong.


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yeah! inquiring minds want to know!!! i didn't get to go to the shows so
i have to live viariously thru ya'll!!!

*hugs*

lamia
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sooooo...what happpened at the show?  the audience treated jean smith
rudely?  come on, will someone please come forward with some details!?

okay, thanks...

love,
karen :-)


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>sooooo...what happpened at the show?  the audience treated jean smith
>rudely?

aaaaand i'm gonna tell everybody, cause i'm a snot like that.

no, not jean, but lisa.  my inside sources (heh) told me that a slew of
drunken rude people wouldn't shut up during one of her quiet songs at
the piano (wood floors?), and she stopped a coupla times and, i was
told, "accosted the audience," whatever that constitutes.
there.  now it's up to the actual audience members to
correct/insult/emaul me and/or expound upon the story.

jill

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wooo!  i liked that post lynn (chance0631@aol.com).. i personally think you
would be an excellent choice for organizing this.. but as someone mentioned
earlier, if this all starts working out as planned, i think that the load
should probably be placed on 3 or 4 others.. to help things out.. not right
now, but maybe like in a month or so, if things go as planned... i already
know of several people myself that have mentioned they would like to help..
indigobabs, jules, and i am sure many more of you guys/gals.. tis what i adore
bout zeee listees!!  so hows about someone.. one person, starts us off.. no
matter who it is, and later when details need tending to, others join in..
whaddaya say?  id like to throw in my two or three cents about location while
i am at it.. i'd probably have to vote for atlanta, simply because it only
makes perfect sense, and there is so much ig related things to do/see... and
an awesome place to visit if you have never been there.. and more chance of
hopefully catching the girls?  <smiles> maybe our pal russell carter could get
em to just come and play,,,, ohh lets say 2 songs for us?  :)  ha!  ill be
praying!

take care folks

good night,
troop

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me me me!

i was chatting with erin and jilly about this, and i plan to call habitat this
week to find out if like 25 to 150 of us were to go to the atlanta area
sometime next year what are the chances of us being put to work on a project.

i really think if loads of us do get together, it would be really great if we
could do something to better the world.  and if we have a chance in hell of a
or e stopping by, it would be good to have something to show for our
friendship and our love of ig.

so, i hope this is ok with you all. i think it is amazing how in the few hours
since this idea first hit the list, people are coming out of lurkdom to give
support!

babs

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folks,

ben said:
>  there's a difference between getting mugged and bootlegging,sorry:) they know
> there is a price to fame. if they don't want to be gossiped about..stop
> performing! it's not like ig are on the cover of tabloids. if it doesn't

or, "if you don't want high schools to cancel free
performances because you're gay, don't come out of
the closet"?

i don't know, maybe i'm too idealistic.  i believe
that people should be good to each other and
respect one another.  and i have nothing but the
highest respect for amy and emily, which means that
i think we should respect their wishes.

i don't believe that you should be able to disregard
someone else's wishes just because it doesn't suit
you, and write it off as "the price of fame"...

[note: i'm not saying we should stop all taping now.
i'm saying that if amy or emily *were* to issue a
statement on the matter, we should respect that.]

anyway, whatever.  maybe i'm not suited to life in
the modern age...

sherlyn
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okay, before anyone says another word about "scary" jean smith... just
read this.  and then shut up about how much you hate her, cause if you
just read her thoughts, it becomes obvious that this woman is amazing.
her line of thinking is thrilling, to say the least.
remember how kara posted that it seemed that jean knew *something* that
the rest of us didn't?  well, she does.  this'll throw you.
jill (thanks to babs for cutting and pasting this to me cause my browser
is f***ed)

from www.matador.recs.com/bands/mecca/complexity.html


>an excerpt from
>complexity is the ghost of understanding
>a new novel by jean smith of mecca normal; published by arsenal pulp
press;
>available in stores march 1, 1998 (isbn 1-55152-050-8); $12.95
u.s./$14.95
>from 1-888-600-pulp....

>
>sound and light are linear systems. light travels in straight beams
>penetrating the dark, it passes through itself and through sunlight.
when i
>went alone, in silence, to travel through linearity, binary systems and
>opposites i was looking for methods of understanding that were outside
of
>duality. what i found was a self-sustaining system of energy creation
that had
>provided water and power to a small community for hundreds of years.
>
>i was working towards the edge of chaos, from solid to fluid, to what
is
>hidden in, what i think of as, darkness. somewhere in the freezing and
thawing
>of water, between order and chaos, there is a relatively balanced place
where
>the tension of these parameters creates and maintains transition.
transition.
>where does john lydon turn into johnny rotten? it's too simple to say
ego and
>alter ego. sitting at the other end of a hockey arena about twenty
years after
>someone called it punk, i tried to imagine johnny's face. in my mind's
eye i
>saw him at the height of the sex pistol's notoriety. the history of
punk, the
>original reason and meaning for and of these songs created a linear
stamp in
>my thoughts. i wasn't aware of punk the first time around, i found out
about
>the sex pistols long after they were finished. i saw pil at roseland in
nyc in
>the spring of '81. they'd already been around a couple of years, the
sex
>pistols were ancient history by then! the sex pistols in '96? i sat,
>immobilized, thinking: if they'd come back for the money--good for
them. if
>they'd come back to alter history again, to inform on history--better
still.
>some pragmatists wanted them to lie down in the pages of history with
epitaphs
>they'd written themselves. it's disturbing for some people to be
confronted by
>that which was promised to be dead. it was always hard to look rancid,
the
>offspring and green day in the eye, now it's impossible. johnny rotten
is
>revered and emulated and that was never the point.
>
>from the chaos of those original punk days "order," by way of
interpretation
>and imitation, has been defined and reduced so far that it's made punk
>mainstream. punk is a genre like rock-a-billy, it's a style. what
happens
>next? when will order be disrupted by chaos and what will that place
look
>like?
>
>when the pendulum of social and political analysis is swinging up to
the point
>where it changes direction, does it stop? does the bow on a violin stop
for
>some fraction of time on the strings? i can't see the transition point,
but
>that's what interests me, not in solid matter or motion, but in ideas
and
>their manifestation; a place where conviction and ambiguity meet. in a
network
>of nerves and vessels, multiplicity is the spirit of knowledge and
tolerance.
>
>this begins in the dark. this darkness belongs to something we can't
forget,
>even when we're asleep. it waits with us, seeping into our lives at an
uneven,
>faltering pace, never far from where we think the surface is. it's
always
>ready for us, to take our hands, to hold them motionlessly. and we
don't even
>suspect it. we don't know it's there. let me tell you about it, let me
tell
>you how quickly it can rise up in you, in me. if you're driving fast at
night
>and you decide to leave the highway the darkness is already ahead of
you,
>around a corner you don't know you're going to take. how do i know?
i've
>tested the darkness, i've spent time there, beside it, watching it. i'm
almost
>ready.
>
>i'm striving for a plainly constructed annihilation. pinned against the
exist
>door, escape, in this case, is too good. its habitat is behind the
spokes of a
>turning wheel. chrome sparkles like laughter. when does it rest? it's
the only
>thing i did, pursuit consumed my time. i believed that when i'd
finished it
>off i'd be left in purity, in a kingdom without weather.
>
>the experiments have been different and i've never spoken to anyone
about
>them. for all anyone else knows i'm living a normal life. almost a
normal
>life. it's a matter of tension and control to find the designs. within
the
>rules of darkness i've melted glass back to sand, split yellow trees to
>splinters and wrung sap from the remains. it's a hurricane watch. i'm
getting
>there.
>
>i used to work days at the counter. he, sunken cheeks, paint flecks on
his
>clothes, rubbed the dust from his hair and came to meet me. together we
drove
>home. my ambition faded. after that i used to work part time in an
office. he
>built things that other people wanted. he counted keep them for
himself. he
>always managed to pay half our bills. i began to move like him and
picked up
>all his habits. he developed a fondness for rare wood from mainland
china. any
>extra time he had he spent sharpening his tools. my ambition slipped
away, i
>couldn't stop the dullness from roaring in. something was slowly
rotting in my
>box of souvenirs. i took a token of my ambition and rolled it in my
hands and
>like my plans, like my desire, it disappeared.
>
>maybe i'm making it seem too complicated, maybe you call it something
else.
>waking up, not knowing where you are, not knowing whose breathing
you're
>listening to. have you ever tried to dig straight through to the other
side of
>the world? lost before i knew it, passing the ones who stopped at the
oddest
>times, others stopped halfway. listening to another world's future
breathing
>in the dark. who is behind you on the way? is fear an accelerated from
of
>wondering? do you call it panic?
>
>an extinct creature, an antiquated word, history survives in an
unrecognizable
>shape. we've mistaken its origin, but we know it's there.
>
>somewhere in me, when people say, "the moon is sinking into the
horizon," i
>believe it is.
>
>i am running with rabbit leggings, looking behind me as i pound against
the
>crust of spring snow. a wolf runs after me, tongue lolling on one side.
cedar
>boughs whip against me and the full moon sinks into the lake creating
>darkness. hiding. a chance.
>
>these spells are my imagination and they occur when i'm on the verge of
>relaxing, between tension and relaxation.
>
>i am taking a tuna sandwich out of plastic wrap on the first spring day
warm
>enough to eat outside. office workers are sitting on the cement edges
of the
>fountain, they push back hair in the breeze, look for sunglasses in
purses,
>drop shoes to wriggle toes.
>
>i am sitting alone, enjoying the mutual happiness of a season turning,
warming
>up. i am feeling outside of things, but somehow unconditionally
connected; my
>imagination goes. i am in the middle of the city, following the person
ahead
>of me and suddenly i become a witness and yet i can't recount the facts
of the
>accident. i know it involved a pedestrian and a car. i was at once part
of
>connection and disorientation. i was skinning a small animal with a
crooked
>knife, my hands flicking the entrails, separating the flesh from the
fur. deep
>in the forest, two hundred, three hundred, five hundred years ago.
>
>the rocks on the beach are warm colours; warm greys, warm browns. dull,
rubbed
>smooth by the tides. i am lying face down on the rocks, pushing my
fingers
>through them. my eyes are closed, i can smell the salt. the rocks are
small,
>they fit in my hands. i've stopped waiting. tension disappears
downward. the
>side of my face is pressed against the beach. i am only the translator
here
>and i'm still not convinced i understand the language, but the process
>surrounds me whether i understand it or not. you'll have to accept my
work as
>interpretation. next, you become the translator, involved prior to
recognizing
>multiplicity. the darkness seems to demand an endles shifting, a dense
>shuffling. the destruction of codes.
>
>i remember that girl, alone on a beach, fending off desperation,
filling
>notebooks with a silent scream. in the transition from a daughter to a
wife i
>made a list that read like errands to be run. it was a list that was
intended
>to define the future on paper. i got tired of recipies and redecorating
rooms.
>inch by inch, but not without asking, i pulled away. nowadays i don't
want to
>own a horse. i don't need to see paris in april.
>
>the rocks are cold fingers. they are magnets, restructuring molecules
into new
>patterns. constant motion. never is there repetition. the sea is
breathing in
>my ears, a conductor of sound. whose future am i listening to now?
>
>crimson drops the levels, casting molten iron to the sea. underwater
near the
>ruins of the shipyard, time, time is slow and energy is speed. waxy
laughter
>breaks across the back of history. fingers are pinching dust in the
black
>caverns, searching for a method that exists in a void. rifling through
>history, investing in past lives, the honeycomb of doubt crumbles at
the
>slightest touch.
>
>everyday at about four the crows fly east. their course changes with
the
>seasons. the crows fly back from the sun like an answer. i'm not sure
if it's
>an answer to a question or a problem. the directions are half written
>disappointments. some things can be left without solution. the sun
smells
>sweet without compulsion.
>
>"the slow days will take us together. i'll pay you what i want to owe
you, i
>expect you to give me what i want."
>
>sick of land faith on a mile. sick of gravity's shee sunday at noon
believing
>we can't fly. sheer pink in a thousand summers' eyes frayed edges. some
things
>can be left without solution.
>
>snow traces a white outline on the trees. a book is open on the
windowsill,
>open to the pages with a drawing of bodies falling through history,
searching
>for the light to separate them from the dark. the book is so small
compared to
>the original drawing. taking it in with one glance, as if it was just a
>thought, a gesture, it's easy to forget that the bodies fell with such
weight
>and power. if you choose the misconception as a reference, as a guide
to
>understanding, you will reproduce nothing. really nothing.
>
>if you live your life examining misrepresentations you might never
notice
>where the inconsistencies are, the imperfections that allow breathing.
this is
>the darkness you won't see. if you are determined to imagine that there
are no
>errors in other people's examinations then you will be bolted to
stillness.
>forced to stand along side the unrelenting pulse beats of light and
dark, you
>will have dulled what could have been. where do these accidents occur?


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date:         sun, 6 sep 1998 23:02:20 pdt
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subject:      re: look what i found!!! a must read!
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yes i'm replying to my own post.  heh.
for anyone who went to sst and heard soon to be nothing-- remember
jean's spoken word parts between em's verses?

>>my ambition faded.
>>my ambition slipped
>away, i
>>couldn't stop the dullness from roaring in. something was slowly
>rotting in my
>>box of souvenirs. i took a token of my ambition and rolled it in my
>hands and
>>like my plans, like my desire, it disappeared.

sound familiar? ("herrrr ambition faaaaaded.... sheee takes a token of
herrrr ambition and rolls it in her haaaands, she rolllllls it in her
haaaands, and liiiike her plans, like her desiiiiires, it
disappearrrrs...")

god, this woman kills me.  i side with kara on this one.
jean's not mean, she's brilliant.  hmph.

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date:         sun, 6 sep 1998 23:11:15 pdt
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"in canada"  by mecca normal
from <www.matador.recs.com/bands/mecca/elvis.html>

living in a trailer across the road
from the cows you were supposed to milk before dawn.
you don't get home in time
and besides you're ripped and torn.
you're walked to the edge of the land and told,
"never darken this doorway again."

kind of a killer, kind of a killer
when when when

you cross the world's longest covered bridge
on your father's bike to see your girl
with another man.
you were ten minutes late.
she gets away to tell you,
"you have a lot of pigeon shit on you."
that's what happens
in the longest covered bridge in the world.

kind of a killer, kind of a killer
when when when

you drink a half a quart of whiskey
with your bacon and your eggs
every morning.
you're bound to take a dive
for a stainless steel sink
and someone will have to decide
at what point in flight,
mid- or otherwise, you died.
and for that the first utterance is,
"it's about time."

something a little sad when you walk the fifteen miles
to your baby while your baby has her daddy's car.
things went missing, things got replaced
and a few people struck down the law of the land
with only a butter knife in hand.

in canada.


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date:         sun, 6 sep 1998 23:27:56 pdt
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so... can one of you smart, lovable people tell me where i can get a
casette liner template??  muchas gracias.

yeah, yeah, i know it's been asked before.  what can i say...i must have
been sleeping.

liz

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hey y'all.  i don't have any music by michelle malone or dar williams
and i was hoping that maybe one of you could give me a suggestion as
to what album of theirs i should buy first.  thanks!  erin :)


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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 00:28:09 pdt
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...you'll be tested on all this, so pay attention.
ahem.

everything i could find online about thalia zedek smushed into one huge
post
by jilly "gutter punk" c.

it all started with the recorder choir.

after graduating high school in 1979, thalia moved from d.c. to boston,
supposedly for college.  "supposedly" being the key word.  she joined a
band called white women.  they were (real) short-lived.  then on to the
"new-wavy" (!) dangerous birds, whose singles appear on scattered
compilation albums on the boston label propeller, which is apparently
now-defunct, or else a really well-kept secret, cause i can't find it
(or any record of it) anywhere.  the dangerous birds' only other
appearance is performing their 1980 single "smile on your face" on the
sub pop 100 compilation album. (to give you an idea of how impossible it
would be to find this album:  sub pop catalogues its albums by assigning
them sequential numbers.  today, they're around number sp500something.
sub pop 100's catalog number is sp10.  we're talkin ancient indie-rock
history.)

(sub pop records, 1932 first ave., seattle wa, 98101.  800/subpop1.
www.subpop.com ).
-------
zedek's next (1982-1984) band was live skull, which i guess are kinda
hardcore.  she may not have been on all their albums, cause i believe
they existed before she came around.

live skull albums (these are re-releases, that's why their release date
is after the band's demise):
live skull -- massive records, 1984.
bringing home the bait -- homestead records, 1985.
cloud one -- homestead, 1986.
dusted -- homestead, 1987.
don't get any on you (live)-- homestead, 1987. (cdnow, cduniverse, and
musicblvd have this)
snuffer ep (an ep is a short album, 3-5 tracks)-- caroline records,
1988.
positraction-- caroline, 1988.
raise the maniff-- homestead, 198?
pusherman-- caroline, 198?

live skull appears on wailing ultimate (homestead, 198?), and on the
human music compilation album (homestead, 1988).  they contribute "alive
again." (cduniv, cdnow have it)

i cannot find massive records anywhere. hmmm.

caroline records, 114 w. 26 st., nyc 10001.
www.caroline.com/caroline/catalog01.htm

homestead records, 150 w. 28 st., suite 501, nyc 10001.
www.dutch-east.com/hms/homestea.htm#l

live skull videos:
live skull-- 45 mins., vhs.  cloud one tour, cincy oh 3/88 (cdnow)
live-- 60 mins., vhs.  dallas '89 (cdnow, musicblvd)
-------
zedek went on to form (?) uzi (1984-1987).  they put out one album,
sleep asylum (matador, 1993.  recorded '84-'85, boston.  22 mins.
tracks:  criminal child, pale light, gabrielle, ha-ha-ha, collections,
underneath).  this was being sold at the sst shows.  thalia performed
pale light and gabrielle on the tour :)

uzi also appears (playing guitar) on tree's 1986 album downsizing the
american dream (cherrydisc records, p.o. box 120-089, boston ma
02112-0089. www.cherrydisc.com/cherrycatalog.html)

uzi never really caught on, the bios said.  ah well, more was yet to...
-------
come (1990+) has been called "harrowing yet beautiful at once."
"intelligent, dark, corrosive, desperate."  ya know how cdnow has that
album advisor, where they recommend other artists you'd like if you like
come?  the advisor has a list of recommendations ranging from
springsteen to sleater-kinney.  wow.  come was originally a quartet.
they lost their rhythm section (drummer and bass player) around 1995.
thalia and chris brokaw (of codeine) continued as a duo, having their
friends and guest musicians back them up on their albums.

come's albums:
eleven: eleven-- matador, 1992. rec'd cambridge ma, jul 92.  52 mins.
tracks: submerge, dead molly, brand new vein, off to one side, bell,
william, sad eyes, power failure, orbit, fast piss blues, i got the
blues.

don't ask don't tell-- matador, 1994.  rec'd, feb/mar 94.  tracks:
finish line, mercury falls, yr reign, poison, let's get lost, string,
german song, in/out, wrong side, arrive.

near life experience-- matador, 1996.  rec'd nov/dec 95.  32 mins.
tracks:  hurricane, weak as the moon, secret number, bitten, shoot me
first, walk on's, half life, slow-eyed.

gently down the stream-- matador, 1998.  rec'd. mar. 98.  66 mins.
tracks:  one piece, recidivist, stomp, sorry too late, saints around my
neck, silk city, middle of nowhere, fade-outs, jam blues, new coat, the
former model, march.

all albums available from cdnow, cduniverse, and musicblvd, or from
matador records, 625 broadway, 12th fl., nyc 10012.  212/995.5882 ph,
212/995.5883 fx

lots of come's singles and early early stuff are on vinyl, so don't
bother buying anything with a " after it's name if you don't either own
some sort of record player or plan on buying one.  yes, carol, we all
know *you* have a record player.
come singles/cd5s/7"/10" (basically anything short of a full album):
-car/ last mistake  7" (sub pop 1992)
-car (glitterhouse, 1992) (i can't find glitterhouse anywhere)
-fast piss blues/ i got the blues (matador 1992)
-wrong side/loin of the surf/ s.v.k. (matador 1994) (available at cdnow,
cduniv, musicblvd)
-string  10" (matador 1994)

come appears on:
-afternoon delight:  love songs from sub pop (sub pop, 1992) (they do
"car.")

-this is fort apache (ft. apache/ mca 1995) (they do "off to one side.")

-no safety:  _live at the knitting factory_ (knitting factory, 1994)
("submerge.")

-steve wynn:  _melting in the dark_ (zero hour, 1995 or 96) (at cdnow)
come backs him up on this album. they also toured europe as wynn's
backup band in 1996.

-volume 8: _ volume 8_ (volume, 1993).  go to
www.demon.co.uk/volume/nvol8.html

-kerouac:  kicks joy darkness (rykodisc, 1997).  can be ordered from
www.rykodisc.com/rykoindex2/catalog/dump/rykoalbums_666.asp
they (thalia only?) play(s) clarinet, guitar, and something called a
vibraslap, whatever that is.  i like that word.  vibraslap!

-what's up matador? (matador, 1997) (they do "in/out") (at cdnow,
cduniv)

-end of music as we know it (roir, ?). reachout int'l records, 611
broadway, suite 411, nyc 10012.  212/477.0563.  www.roir-usa.com

-ain't nothin' but a she thing (london/polygram, 1995).
www.polygram.com/london (the site is temp. unavailable).  available at
cdnow.

online articles on thalia/ come:
http://www.addictedtonoise.com/html/hifi/columns/days_between_stations/407/index.html

http://www.cmjmusic.com/newpicks/feb98/come.html

http://www.wweek.com/html/come030498.html

http://www.matador.recs.com/bios/bio_come.html

http://www.desert.net/alibi/03-04-98/showoff.htm  (at bottom of page)

articles from the matador site:
http://matador.catalogue.com/bands/come/puncture.html
http://matador.catalogue.com/bands/come/qrt.html
http://matador.catalogue.com/bands/come/come_filler.html

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/alt1/archive/music/reviews/05-02-96/come.html

good article and pic:
http://www.bostonphoenix.com/archive/1in10/98/02/come.html

ultimate band list search:
http://www.ubl.com/cgi/search.exact.cgi?search=come

matador's spot on cdnow:
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/redirect/leaf=matador/from=abx:l:mat:rmu
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put your pencils down.  time is up.  please close your test booklets.
you may get up and stretch, or go to the bathroom and get a drink if you
have to.

email privately if you have any comments, questions, concerns, indie
record store suggestions or help needed, etc.

lovies as ever,
jilly

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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 03:47:45 edt
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got's a lil story.. .  if you are busy on here.. go ahead and delete away..
nuttin important here.. just an ig moment for me on this fine evening.

i normally dont post these, but just can resist... well, see, earlier i kinda
spilled beer in my keyboard, so naturally, i called gateway, cuz they always
cooperate, and of course i had to act like i didnt know what the hell was
going on.. so, after being transferred thru 4 diff people, they finally put me
thru to hardware, and i get to talk to this really nice lady... she kept quiet
at first, cuz she heard me strummin luvs recovery in the background.. so she
sat there bfore saying hello, pretending like i was still on hold.. and at the
end, saying, was that you?  i was like, yea, and she totally loves ig.. we
talked forever, totally disregarding the computer situation sometimes, and it
was just kinda funny.. she made me play more for her.. so i did e.i.i.o.t. and
power of two, and it was just so entertaining to me..... such a weird
experience!  hehehehohoh.. methinks she was flirtin too.. she left her phone
number with me!!  imagine that!  computer technician.. leaving her name and
number!  what a wonderful world....

till next time, stay tuned.....

trooper

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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 01:38:59 +0000
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so this totally beautiful acoustic women duo named zoe's trip played at the
opening of the campus coffee house tonight and i loved them. foolishly, i
thought i'd just get some info on them off the web later. oh so wrong. i am
not having luck. can someone out there help me, pretty please?? thanks.
-sam (who really wants to make some fish prints)

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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 07:59:12 -0400
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caitlin
please email us.

kim & rhea

"no one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

eleanor roosevelt

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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 13:37:38 +0100
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not that any of you probably missed me.. but hey.. just to let you know..
another brit is back on line!!!!

hugs to y'all
juliet

"dark and dangerous like a secret that gets whispered in a hush,
when i wake the things i dreamt about you last night make me blush"
http://www.rdg.ac.uk/pris/sed/juliet/home2.html

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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 08:59:42 -0400
reply-to:     "diane g." <kiddo@together.net>
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someone wrote:

>>>>>i think it
would be an awesome idea to have an annual list meet... whaddaya think?  ok..
so everyone who puts in their two cents.. we could come up with a central
location...>>>>

as much of a great idea as this is....

(here comes my pessimistic side)

do people really have money to throw around to the point where they would
travel to the center of the united states (yeah if you happen to live in
kansas city, great! - but  a great portion of us live on the eastern and
western seaboards...as well as in other countries....) to meet a group of
people they don't know ?

for that matter, how do people afford all these road trips, lodgings,
tickets, souvenirs, albums, posters, cd's, etc etc etc to see all the
concerts that it seems i hear list members talking about all the time? i've
seen the indigo girls once and they were in the town i live in.  no matter
how much i like them, i can't justify spending the money to see them, plus
lodging, plus time missed from work, etc to see a concert, no matter how
much i love the girls and their music.  i just don't get it. i'm barely
making ends meet, i have a full time job, and i dont' have the money to
blow that i hear people talking about every day....

maybe i'm just super-oversensitive and way over-tired, but it just seems i
keep hearing over and over and over "lets do this" and "lets do that" and
"we'll go here" and "we just went there" etc etc etc.  there's no way i
could do it and still function on a day to day basis on my salary.

ok thats it for my bitching.

i'd love some private feedback though (or public if you must) about whether
i'm the only person who thinks about this stuff....

diane


* * * * * * * * * *
diane gagnon
kiddo@together.net
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it's not the pace of life that concerns me, it's the sudden stop at the
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dear diane and all,

i definitly agree with your view.  the way i afford to do my road tripping is i
stay withing a 150 mile limit, 300 miles round trip.  i'll drive 2+ hours, even 3
or more, but i neve have taken a room.  i'm just lucky they play pa often.  the
tickets aren't usually very much, and neither is the gas.

so far as traveling all the way to anywhere for a list meet, i'm definitely not
interested.  this reminds me of a time about 5 years ago that a chat room i spent
time in on aol (thirtysomething) had a group meet in nc.  i flew for that,
against husbands wishes.  what i found when i got there was that alot of people
brought their computers so they could keep chatting, most were lost souls looking
for love, it really was a pity.  it wasn't all bad, i met quite a few people i
had grown close to from chatting, but alot of them i met were not what they
portrayed themselves to be.

meeting listees at a concert is cool though, i mean you aren't stuck with people
you don't know for hours, days...you just get to meet and listen to the girls
together.

anyhow, you won't find me a an ig list meet, sounds like a recipe for disaster to
me.  even though i think the habitat thing is a terrific idea, i wouldn't even
consider it unless the indigo girls were going to be there to play for us.

karen

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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 09:54:58 edt
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did anyone from the list attend this "festival" this weekend ???? i was there
saturday to support commonbond & red letter day - and ferron also performed on
saturday - ulali was there yesterday ....

just wondering

chris

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yes she is scarey..yes she is not your typical guest we'd expect to see
at an ig concert but i gotta tell ya this woman really moved
me...really..i had no idea what to expect...i had not seen the previous
5 ss shows ( as did the group of folks i was with for night 2 in
chicago)..well jean comes on and starts that verbal thing...which is
really sounding alot like a sense memory on childhood sexual abuse(hey
,,,we get what we get out of it..) and its really moving me and my chest
is tightening and those hairs are standing up on the back of my
neck..tears forming in my eyes....this is not a pretty  reading and all
of a sudden she stops and says..wait can we do this someother time( or
whatever the words were) and its so silent ya coulda heard a pin drop
and i gasp and blurt"..no go on.."because she had moved me to such a
point that i wanted her to finish..it was a real genuine reaction right
from the gut...i hadn't been moved like that at a show in a long
time.........of course the folks i was with were apalled that i reacted
and didn't act appropriatly by keeping my mouth shut( i guess there are
rules about how one is suppose to listen to a show) so they shussed
me....really pi**ed off...
but i digress..
all i'm saying is if someone has the words to that reading or knows
where i can find it i would greatly appreciate it..i intend to find her
books and read them..the lady has a brain in her head...

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first of all, you people are all so crazy.  i think jill is the greatest for
posting jean smith's stuff...whoa!  thought once i got out of college i
wouldn't have to think that much this early in the morn...

back to my purpose...
as i think some of you know, i'm going to atlanta this weekend.  while i'm
there, i'll be going to an arts festival in decatur sponsored by daemon
records and other greats.  if you want to see who's playing at the concert, go
here....http://www.dvg.com.  it's donna van gough's web page; she's the
organizer of the affair.

also,  i'm hoping to get a recording of michelle malone and whoever else might
grace the stage....

-chee

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kathleen mccrea wrote:

> in a message dated 9/7/98 12:08:11 am eastern daylight time,
> cypressmoon@hotmail.com writes:
>
> << >if you want dead center countrywise you are talking st louis or
> kansas
>  >city or thereabouts.
>   >>
> hi everyone,
>
> ya know, i was thinking the same thing. kc/kcmo is a really cool town.
> the
> only problem is: kc/kcmo is etheridge country.

well, for pete's sake, i don't know about the rest of you, but i am able
to like melissa and the ig...as long as the mes aren't meeting at the
same time who cares?   not that i am against any other part of the
country really but distance would be a huge factor for me personally.
that should not keep anyone from voting for another place tho...[ann]

>
>
> it would kinda be like having a party for hitler in jerusalem. (sorry
> for the
> extreme example)
>
> i kinda think the southeast is the best place to have a meet. that
> way, you're
> able to get a feel for what helped shape the ig's. there is a richness
> about
> that part of the country can't be found anywhere else.

i agree on this too and still vote for atlanta really... [ann]

>
>
> peace
> kathleen
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all i can say is wow..i'm buying that book!!!

*hugs*

lamia


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but that's just a point of view,
and you know how quickly that could change, too..."
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i wasn't actually at these so i haven't actually heard or saw jean but i
have to say from what i've heard she sounds cool..and hey so she's not
the ig, but amy probably really likes her stuff to have her be part of
the tour..the average ig fan is probably not really into punk and all
that but like they say:
gotta learn to respect what you don't understand..

*hugs*

lamia
______________________________________________________________________
yes i'm replying to my own post.  heh.
for anyone who went to sst and heard soon to be nothing-- remember
jean's spoken word parts between em's verses?

>>my ambition faded.
>>my ambition slipped
>away, i
>>couldn't stop the dullness from roaring in. something was slowly
>rotting in my
>>box of souvenirs. i took a token of my ambition and rolled it in my
>hands and
>>like my plans, like my desire, it disappeared.

sound familiar? ("herrrr ambition faaaaaded.... sheee takes a token of
herrrr ambition and rolls it in her haaaands, she rolllllls it in her
haaaands, and liiiike her plans, like her desiiiiires, it
disappearrrrs...")

god, this woman kills me.  i side with kara on this one.
jean's not mean, she's brilliant.  hmph.

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janet frenkil wrote:

> gosh, you guys, we're having like a list-orgie over the idea of having
> a
> listfest or a listmeet. we rock! we're so excited about making
> something of
> this list. it's like, ig list pride week or something. we should have
> a
> freekin parade

oooo, noooooo, pleaseeeee.    lol        [ann]

> much love
> janet.
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i use a sony dwm-3 with its own separate mike. it has a recording level
meter. you can adjust recording levels manually which comes in handy
when you're close to the stage. it does a nice clean job.
there are a few ergonomic glitches with this baby though: the pause
button needs to be taped down to avoid getting engaged accidentally
during the show. the recording knob also needs to be taped down, same
reason. last but not least, it's really easy to accidentally engage the
play button when you're holding it, so the batteries must be kept
separately until showtime.

now for the question: has anyone looked into the pros and cons of dat vs
mini-disc (beyond the obvious one, ie the price). if you have, please
share.

advthanksance,

monique

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i only have one thing to say!! buy all their albums!! *giggles*
ok...opinion here!
my favourite dar album (although it's hard to chose) is mortal city cuz
you have febuary, as cool as i am, iowa, well hmm let me put it this
way..i love every song on this album!! except for this was pompeii :p
which is my least favourite dar song! but all the rest are great!

as for michelle..i love her too! i was all woohoo when i saw your
email!!
i'd get beneath the devil moon (or is it under? i always forget! *l*)
cuz grace is like the best song! i love that song...and actually there's
not one song that i don't like! they're all great!!! :)

so if i had to chose i'd say buy dar-mortal city michelle-devil moon!

*hugs*

lamia
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hey y'all.  i don't have any music by michelle malone or dar williams
and i was hoping that maybe one of you could give me a suggestion as
to what album of theirs i should buy first.  thanks!  erin :)


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alright, my two cents.

i think a listmeet is a great idea, and i'm personally voting for atlanta,
because of the appropriatness, and since it's one of the cheapest airports
to fly into. also, habitat or something like it is a great idea - plus we
could still have a ton of fun in off time! :) are we thinking about this
for next summer perhaps? i know it would be really tough for me (and all
the other college/high school students out there) to get away during the
spring, but if we plan ahead, summer is doable!

plus, about the t-shirts - if we did habitat for humanity, it would be a
great excuse to wear them! by the way, this may be opening a big can of
worms, but if we decide to get shirts, i can get them silk screened at
cost through one of my friends. a one color, one sided design would
probably run about $6-7 per shirt, based on quantity ordered. add about $1
for each addition color or side (but probably less). if i take this over,
though, i would need to have all the orders before i get the shirts
printed, because i can't afford to get stuck with 20 or more identical
t-shirts! :)

--amy

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in a message dated 98-09-07 00:35:51 edt, you write:

<< there are going to be some
rough crowds out there, but the best performers win them
over, or make due.  she just made it worse by stopping
though, because the fans just got more restless.  >>

reminds me of the npr interview with patti smith where she talked about
having to argue with the audience during her first gigs... a poet
at a punk show ... i think she said she learned a lot of sparring
tactics from watching jonny carson.

:)
claire

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in a message dated 98-09-06 18:50:46 edt, :

<< ok...so today i'm in waldenbooks, and i'm really bored cuz i'm reading 3
books at the moment and there's nothing i really want to look for and
they don't carry any books by anyone that i would read anyhow...so i
went to look at the social sciences section and i saw a book called:
bury my heart at wounded knee!!!!!!
so then i gave a lil' shriek and started bouncing around and i think
that everyone in the store thought i was crazy..but i was excited *lol*
  >>

oh my god.
what's wrong with the youth of today ????
in my day we were cynical, rebellious little drug guzzling deviants.
the youth of today have their priorities all wrong. ;)

seriously ... i really must react when i see the meaning of one
of the saddest chapters of american history ( the massacre
at wounded knee) boiled down to a song sung (not even written)
by the indigo girls....it kinda makes my toes curl.
no offense lamia...
cb

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my fave michelle cd is new experience, which i play to death!  my fave songs
are
  "new experience" which i love!!!  it's a great song to get into while your
singing it.   i should not drive while listening to this song!   i also love
"counting stars" on this cd.
  buy em all!!  does anyone have michelle's "a swingin' christmas in the
attic?"  i just wanted to know what all you guys think cuz i value you're
opinions.

jennifer

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point heard and such an attentive group will not discount these thoughts in
planning the list meet.
we are an army of brains and hearts.  we will figure something out when the
time comes.
lynn

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we are spread out all over this great big continent.  we could road trip to
the closest listee's pad and carpool.  again, we are a unit, a family, we will
figure something out!

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deadline midnight (est) weds. sept. 9
to avoid another round of 1,000 e-mails (all good) on suggestions of where to
meet.  i am taking the point and asking you to e-mail to me personally the
following 2 things:

4 words only!    my choice:     city, state

4 words only!  i live:  city, state

i will post results when complete and then we can decide what to do, what to
consider or what to think next.  hope this doesn't offend anyone.
lynn

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alls i gots to say is that:
mark mcgwire rules!!!!!

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anybody got info on these guys?
-chee
banging my head,
the romantics,
you can see i'm crazed,
i'm maaaaaaaaa n iiiiii c!

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are you all crazy??if a and e ever get wind of the fact that 800 fanatic
fans from this list of wackos ever headed to their town like locust i
can guarentee you they would catch the next plane to siberia...its bad
enuf we plague them after every show wanting more and more than they've
ever agreed to give but the thought that they would have to hide in
their own home town in fear of groupies ( 800 of them no less) peering
from behind bushes, tracking them down the street and generally reeking
havoc would be enuf to  have them hide inside and bolt the doors..
please please please reconsider your choice of meeting..atlanta is their
home..its bad enough we invade their privacy on the net..can't we leave
them alone at home..
i'd say i don't mean to preach but hell..i do..you wanna work for
habitat for humanity..do it in your own back yard..not in a place where
a and e would see us and know how wonderful we are..do it for the people
who need your help not to impress tamy and emily and hopefully get a
show out of it.....and as far as russell carter arranging a show..are
youout of youer minds??????? we went thru this debate awhile
ago(suprised it hasn't come round  what with our fav cd on a desert
island thread..thats an oldie but a boring one already)this list is not
deserving of any special treatment..we are just a bunch of people who
like their music..our problem is we delve into their personal lives more
so than those who don't belong..so why would he even consider it...
they just got off the road..count them..the sots tour, honor tour,
lilith tours, ss tours...let them go home and live in peace....
flame away..
sometimes you guys amaze me

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>>seriously ... i really must react when i see the meaning of one
of the saddest chapters of american history ( the massacre
at wounded knee) boiled down to a song sung (not even written)
by the indigo girls....it kinda makes my toes curl.
no offense lamia...
cb

my god, it's not like i think it's just a song!! i do know that it's not
just some song the indigo girls sing you know...i wasn't reducing it to
something like that or making light of it in any way..i was mostly
making fun of my reaction and how everything makes me think of amy and
emily. i know that they didn't write it...if you want to get saddened by
something then find out how many high school seniors have even heard of
the battle of wounded knee. better yet, find out how many care...at
least there are some of us who know and care. not just because the
indigo girls sing the song. i know you said no offense but i am a bit
offended, and anyhow i'm getting sick so today is not being the best day
for me.

lamia


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>
> date:    mon, 7 sep 1998 13:56:49 -0500
> from:    pooh <pooh40@mc.net>
> subject: listmeet..get real
>
> are you all crazy??if a and e ever get wind of the fact that 800 fanatic
> fans from this list of wackos ever headed to their town like locust i
> can guarentee you they would catch the next plane to siberia...its bad
> enuf we plague them after every show wanting more and more than they've
> ever agreed to give but the thought that they would have to hide in
> their own home town in fear of groupies ( 800 of them no less) peering
> from behind bushes, tracking them down the street and generally reeking
> havoc would be enuf to  have them hide inside and bolt the doors..
> please please please reconsider your choice of meeting..atlanta is their
> home..its bad enough we invade their privacy on the net..can't we leave
> them alone at home..

we can do *both*. meet in atlanta and agree to respect them enough to behave
ourselves. it never does much good to expect that people will meet your
darkest expectations.

> i'd say i don't mean to preach but hell..i do..you wanna work for
> habitat for humanity..do it in your own back yard..not in a place where
> a and e would see us and know how wonderful we are..do it for the people
> who need your help not to impress tamy and emily and hopefully get a
> show out of it.....

or do *both*? the trick to getting something worthwhile accomplished often is
getting together a group of motivated people. it seems to me that this
listmeet is such an opportunity. why >not< take advantage of it? you might
find the idea of people grandstanding for a&e distasteful (although that
wouldn't be my motive, and i think you're on shaky ground doing a motive
reading for anyone but yourself), but if good comes of it, so? your point is
well-made, but as "after you come home from the listmeet, do *more* to help
other people." (incidentally, i do. regularly. i'd go into detail, but that
would be grandstanding.)

> they just got off the road..count them..the sots tour, honor tour,
> lilith tours, ss tours...let them go home and live in peace....

here i agree 100%. no reason to even ask them to turn out and entertain us.
they've been working pretty hard at doing just that lately.

> flame away..
> sometimes you guys amaze me

i think you've got a point with all these concerns, but i have to say, i
think you exaggerate them all wildly.

doyle srader
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an idea is that we could have just one listmeet and base any future
meets on the success of this one.  it also could roam from time to time
so that people from other areas of the country would have easier access
different years.  at some point san francisco would be a perfect place
for our crowd to gather.  i also know that the girls love this city too,
they always play 2 shows everytime they show up here.  anyway, my
thoughts ont eh possibiliteis.
                        lynz

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i have one thing to say  to that post: you amaze me.
this is a meet for listees cuz we like each other (well most of us like
each other i guess you think we're weirdos and psycho stalkers in which
case i have to say, speak for yourself!)

i like the idea why? because for one, i would like to meet all the
people that i see post, and the people who i'm closer with. i'd like to
see for myself the amazing jilly c, whose fan club i am in *w* i'd like
to meet sharone, and tim, and bar corrice, and babs, and i could go on
and on about all the wonderful people on this list who i adore and would
love to meet, but i don't have enuf room! cuz i want to meet anyone who
can make it to the listmeet, wherever it might be!!!

psychos invading atlanta? what the heck is your problem? atlanta is a
city. a large metropolitan area! amy & emily probably won't even know
we're having a listmeet there and if they do..i doubt it would bother
them. no one's saying, hey, let's go to atlanta and have a listmeet in
their backyard. or let's have a listmeet in atlanta and try to find out
where they live and have 300 ppl standing in their front yard
terrorizing them. i doubt that was anyone's intention. we wouldn't do
that to begin with.

so what if we want to go to the indigorelated restaurants like
watershed. you think it bothers emily that her fans want to go to a
restaurant that she's helping to plan, finance etc? i doubt it. for one
thing, if she didn't want her fans to know that she was part of it, we
wouldn't know. she could be a silent partner in anything and everything
she wanted to be.

the key word in all this is list. this is for the listees to meet each
other, to hang out, to jam, have a good time, whatever. i don't see that
it's in any way hurting, or even affecting the indigo girls (aside from
the fact that this is the ig list.) atlanta is not owned by them. they
might not even be in atlanta when we're there. it's very sad to me that
when someone gets a good idea, there has to be one or two jealous people
that try to turn it into someting ugly and controversial.
of course not every single person on this list will be able to come,
maybe not every single person wants to, but why do you have to turn it
into something nasty? most of the people on this list are friends, we
like each other for the most part, and would like to meet. there is
nothing wrong with that, and there's nothing wrong with doing it in
atlanta.

*hugs*

lamia


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i was thinking about this as i was reading some of the posts.  amy and
emily both tried their hardest to make everyone understand that the
suffragette tour was not about "the indigo girls".  it was a tour of
talented, women music artists that happened to include amy ray and emily
saliers.  yet, when i got to the ny show, there were two mikes set up in
the center of the stage, one for emily and one for amy.  for every song
that was sung and that amy or emily were a part of, they were in the front
center of the stage, while everyone else sang behind or to the side of
them.  in fact, i don't think josephine wiggs was at the front at any point
of the concert and the only time jean smith was, was when she was the only
one on stage.
i'm not saying that this is good or bad....it would have been nice not to
have to peer around mics and amps to see some of the other artist, though.
it seems that amy and emily would have been the first to try to downplay
their "importance" and try to have some of the others in front, as well.
or maybe because they were the "hosts" that night, they were in front.  how
was it on the other nights?

lcasey

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you know a song like this has immeasurable impact. perhaps its just a
song. but consider someone who hears it, has no clue who leonard
peltier is, does a research paper on him, presents it to a class, and
further, gets his story into a speech given at a local college's
candidate's night. so now his story is heard by others, and perhaps
by someone in a position to actually do something about his situation
(that someone being an elected official).


and the song isn't just about wounded knee. i consider it a whirlwind
tour of native american people and issues. and the fact that a
it was recorded, and that it brought attention to na issues for foks
who may not have considered them prior to its release, gives it value
beyond any criticism of it.

and, the opening scenario did actually happen. i wrote the paper,
addressed elected officials at my college, and had people asking me
who peltier was.

and all this from hearing just a song.

my apologies if i've gone off thread or offended someone. i just got
back to 300+ emails and ended up deleting most and may have missed
something...

loner

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   hey, now lynz given me a thought.  maybe we could split it up, you know,
western, mid, eastern.  that way if people don't have a way of going all the
way across the country, they don't have to.  but, if you wanted to, say go to
the eastern list-meet and you're from california, you still could..  maybe
it's more realistic.  i vote for bezerkeley if we do this, awesome city and
like lynz said, the girls love it too .

just a thought----->jennifer

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> i think you've got a point with all these concerns, but i have to say, i
> think you exaggerate them all wildly.
>
wildly?? not 2 days into the debate of a list meet and already the
discussion is about what we can get out of the good deed.. thats not
exaggeration, just a reality check

>  you might
> find the idea of people grandstanding for a&e distasteful (although that
> wouldn't be my motive, and i think you're on shaky ground doing a motive
> reading for anyone but yourself), but if good comes of it, so?
>
i reread my post..i don't think i ever said that the idea of
grandstanding for a and e was "distasteful..i said i wish we could do it
for those who need it , not for the pat on the back we'd hope to get
from it


>  your point is
> well-made, but as "after you come home from the listmeet, do *more* to help
> other people." (incidentally, i do. regularly. i'd go into detail, but that
> would be grandstanding.)
>
well i'm glad you do...sorry to bitch again but this has been a constant
bone of contention on this list...for three years now there have been
listmembers involved in the aids ride..they (myself included) have
begged and pleaded for a dollar or five  for support on this
endevour...all along, for the most part we would hear reports from"poor
suffering college students" who couldn't afford even a buck to help a
worthy cause but in the next breath were reporting how they were  flying
cross country to see a show..excuse me.....? did i miss something there?

so if you can grandstand, please do..it would be most welcome to know
that there are others out there doing good for their own personal
reasons and not in hopes of getting a reward out of it ..i would welcome
that infomation and be the first to say "you go!"

and last but not least:

> we can do *both*. meet in atlanta and agree to respect them enough to behave
> ourselves. it never does much good to expect that people will meet your
> darkest expectations.
>
darkest expectations???? c'mon..are you telling me that if you were in
town and someone said.".hey a and e are eating lunch at the cafe next
door you wouldn't look.."
look at what happens at shows..people wait for hours at the backstage
door waiting to get just a glimpse of a performer who has just given
their all and wants to go home..but they can't because of the throngs of
people waiting...they are trapped inside waiting for the crowds to
disperse....( i can just hear the ..if ya didn't want fans ya shouldn't
have gotten famous thread starting)
my point was this..atlanta is their home..they walk down the street with
their girlfriends, the go to the grocery and by junk food, they live
their lives and don't need a mob there to watch.....

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it seems to me that lamia recognizing the book on wounded knee because of
the song is one of the greatest things that could happen.  isn't it great
that someone might be tempted to buy or read a book about something and
gain more knowledge about a significant event in our history just because
of a song?  isnt' that one of the points of that song having been
written...to educate people?

lcasey

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> from: lamia difranco <saliers_ray@hotmail.com>
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> date: monday, september 07, 1998 12:23 pm
>
> >>seriously ... i really must react when i see the meaning of one
> of the saddest chapters of american history ( the massacre
> at wounded knee) boiled down to a song sung (not even written)
> by the indigo girls....it kinda makes my toes curl.
> no offense lamia...
> cb

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in a message dated 9/7/98 3:18:02 pm est, lcasey@bostonan.tiac.net writes:

<< isn't it great
that someone might be tempted to buy or read a book about something and
gain more knowledge about a significant event in our history just because
of a song?  >>

  amen to that!!!
jennifer

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| well i'm glad you do...sorry to bitch again but this has been a constant
| bone of contention on this list...for three years now there have been
| listmembers involved in the aids ride..they (myself included) have
| begged and pleaded for a dollar or five  for support on this
| endevour...all along, for the most part we would hear reports from"poor
| suffering college students" who couldn't afford even a buck to help a
| worthy cause but in the next breath were reporting how they were  flying
| cross country to see a show..excuse me.....? did i miss something there?

        first, i may be one of the starving college
students you mentioned, but i always donate my time and the
money i have to causes i believe in.  i am new, but don't
lump me in to a generalization like that.

        i guess you've made some valid points.  i don't
want to be the crazed fan that makes them uncomfortable,
but i think we can (as a list) bring it above that.  does
it need to be said that this is not a show?  i think the
people most interested in going have the same reason for
going that lamia mentioned. we want to meet each other, we
want to do something we can be proud of (even if in honor
of ig), and have a good time. if these are not your
intentions, or you don't think they will be ours, then
don't go.

        i have every bit of respect for what you are
saying, and i think it would be fun to argue in person, so
let's both you and me meet in atlanta with the rest of the
list.  we can help habitat during the day and fight in
person by night. :-) (remember the best part of fighting is
making up.) i promise to act like an adult, (at least for a
week) as will everyone else going (or else i'll give them a
swift kick in the pants) .

karen 8-)

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pooh said <<they walk down the street with their
grrlfriends>>

so are they just dating or involved in serious
relationships?
sorry, i couldn't resist....
bar

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in agreement amy... thinking that how could one go wrong with habitat and
atlanta at the same time, for an indigo girls birthday during the beautiful
summer months...????  wow what a good combination.. and it would be a nice
excuse to wear the tshirts!

good day,
troop

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sharone and doyle..
just wanted to send a public thank you for your intelligent
rebuttles..glad to know we can differ on this list without whining or
flaming..
thank you both for your opinions
(but i still think the northwest in the fall would be a better choice!)

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pooh, uhh, come on now, who the hell ever said we were gonna stalk them like
mad-men!???  ive been to atlanta/decatur several times and never had the urge
to go do all that.. there is nothing wrong with wanting to get a meal in at
the flying biscuit or work on a house to show our appriciation.. i think this
is a little off from most of our intentions... we're not all lifeless fanatics
i mean come on here...
~troop, who never thought she'd be saying "ready for the flames"

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enjoyed your post and your opinions.....
pooh

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this makes a lot of sense to me.  it would definitely allow more listees to meet
each other over the long run, and would be more cost effective.  i'm from
humboldt county in california and berkeley is definitely doable for me.  perhaps,
once every few years the chapters could meet in atlanta.  at that point, i
(personally) would be more comfortable traveling with a group of people,
especially having already met them through a local chapter.  there are all sorts
of possibilities for cutting costs by sharing accommodations and such, if/when
the atlanta meet happened.  i'd be more open to share expenses with folks i had
met before.

just my .02
gina

jennifer belton wrote:

>    hey, now lynz given me a thought.  maybe we could split it up, you know,
> western, mid, eastern.

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reply-to:     sharon parker <sharoane@ime.net>
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personally i think that any flames you had for pooh should have gone to
private message....that goes for all of us...
peace,
   sharoane

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> ------------------------------
>
> date:    mon, 7 sep 1998 15:05:51 -0500
> from:    pooh <pooh40@mc.net>
> subject: listmeet..get real
>
> > i think you've got a point with all these concerns, but i have to say, i
> > think you exaggerate them all wildly.
> >
> wildly?? not 2 days into the debate of a list meet and already the
> discussion is about what we can get out of the good deed.. thats not
> exaggeration, just a reality check

that's not what the discussion is about. some folks have made reference to it.
i have no idea why policing people's attitudes is so important. i can't fathom
why, if good gets done, what's going through people's minds as they do it is a
concern. sure, *i* think people ought to be willing to help others for no
other reason than that others are helped, for no tangible good to themselves.
but is it my job to cast aspersions at people when i think they're passing up
opportunities to do that? not remotely.

> >  you might
> > find the idea of people grandstanding for a&e distasteful (although that
> > wouldn't be my motive, and i think you're on shaky ground doing a motive
> > reading for anyone but yourself), but if good comes of it, so?
> >
> i reread my post..i don't think i ever said that the idea of
> grandstanding for a and e was "distasteful..i said i wish we could do it
> for those who need it , not for the pat on the back we'd hope to get
> from it

i don't think it matters. at all.

> >  your point is
> > well-made, but as "after you come home from the listmeet, do *more* to help
> > other people." (incidentally, i do. regularly. i'd go into detail, but that
> > would be grandstanding.)
> >
> well i'm glad you do...sorry to bitch again but this has been a constant
> bone of contention on this list...for three years now there have been
> listmembers involved in the aids ride..they (myself included) have
> begged and pleaded for a dollar or five  for support on this
> endevour...all along, for the most part we would hear reports from"poor
> suffering college students" who couldn't afford even a buck to help a
> worthy cause but in the next breath were reporting how they were  flying
> cross country to see a show..excuse me.....? did i miss something there?
> so if you can grandstand, please do..it would be most welcome to know
> that there are others out there doing good for their own personal
> reasons and not in hopes of getting a reward out of it ..i would welcome
> that infomation and be the first to say "you go!"

i volunteer in my community. i work on a college campus. there are endless
opportunities. and i wasn't being sarcastic when i said i wouldn't talk
further about it because i didn't want to grandstand. people need to give
back, and people can do the most giving back if they look for opportunities in
their own backyard. doesn't mean you can't also do good in another part of the
country, especially when you find yourself surrounded by other people who all
agree that doing something helpful is the order of the day. i agree with large
chunks of what you say, but just don't think they're reasons *not* to do this.

> and last but not least:
>
> > we can do *both*. meet in atlanta and agree to respect them enough to behave
> > ourselves. it never does much good to expect that people will meet your
> > darkest expectations.
> >
> darkest expectations???? c'mon..are you telling me that if you were in
> town and someone said.".hey a and e are eating lunch at the cafe next
> door you wouldn't look.."

i also happen to be an rem fan. i got my ph.d. at the university of georgia,
which means i lived in athens for four years. i can tell you about every time
i spotted a member of the band. none of the stories would include me going up
and talking to them, because i respected their privacy. does that answer your
question? (mike mills and bill berry both addressed *me*, on different
occasions. but for that, i never exchanged words with them. not a word to
stipe, although i spotted him more than a dozen times.)

did i look? yes. did i stare? no. my mother raised me to have manners. do
people look at me when i'm out in public? sometimes. does it make my skin
bleed? only on days when it's really thin. :) (i did once get to have a talk
in a bar with michelle shocked. but that was blind luck, and she started the
conversation.)

> look at what happens at shows..people wait for hours at the backstage
> door waiting to get just a glimpse of a performer who has just given
> their all and wants to go home..but they can't because of the throngs of
> people waiting...they are trapped inside waiting for the crowds to
> disperse....( i can just hear the ..if ya didn't want fans ya shouldn't
> have gotten famous thread starting)
> my point was this..atlanta is their home..they walk down the street with
> their girlfriends, the go to the grocery and by junk food, they live
> their lives and don't need a mob there to watch.....

again, i think your point is well-made in a slightly less hysterical and
foreboding vein. we should respect their privacy. i just don't agree that they
need the entirety of one of the largest cities in the country as their safe
zone.

doyle srader
director of forensics
arizona state university
(602) 965-5578

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berkeley!  berkeley!  berkeley!

oh, did i mention that i think the listmeet should be in berkeley!?  it's
the coolest place!  we could have a gathering at the marina, take over
telegraph, do a habitat project in with east bay habitat in oakland, see a
smaller folk concert at the freight and salvage. and of course...san
francisco would be in our backyard!  yeah, i like jennifer's berkeley
idea!

love,
karen :-)

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grrl...   i have reeelly missed you!!!  you are toooo
kewl!!!!
pleeeeezzzee stop that damn lurking crap!!!  k?

luv, bar

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i join this list again after being off it for over a year, and 80% of the
posts are concerning a list meet.  i have met a few listees over the past 3
years and it was a nice experience.  but can we please get back on topic??

thanks y'all,
- jen mek (aka jen hall)

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a previous message states (edited for digesters, etc)

<< i saw a book called:
  bury my heart at wounded knee!!!!!!
   >>

oh my god.
what's wrong with the youth of today ????
... i really must react when i see the meaning of one
of the saddest chapters of american history boiled down to a song sung (not
even written) by the indigo girls >>

yeah, and beyond that, i believe the phrase "bmhawk" was popularized (if not
invented) by the book in the first place.  hmph.  and the book actually ends
at the first wounded knee, so it doesn't even branch into the above mentioned
chapter in american history.

it's an amazing book, if anyone is interested, not only because it is so well
done, but because it was the first great book on the subject of american
indians written w/out a white bias.

~ elizabeth

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in a message dated 9/7/98 8:11:46 pm, jenindgo@aol.com wrote:

> hey, now lynz given me a thought.  maybe we could split it up, you know,
>western, mid, eastern.  that way if people don't have a way of going all the
>way across the country, they don't have to.  but, if you wanted to, say go to
>the eastern list-meet and you're from california, you still could..

yeah yeah yeah!!!!!  great idea!  i suggest chicago for the midwest listmeet:)

emily

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..and they were really natural events, like when a+e play newport, when rdr
had their new years eve bash, ect.  i personally have seen listees and never
said hi (sorry lisa dupre, i actually *did* want to chat with you at
newport. just sorta was... distracted. email me) and others were \really
cool, and everyone should go to atlanta, not because amy or emily live
there, but because it's a beautiful city (and if you take the tour and find
where the strangefire album cover was shot, more power to you, but i'm
taking the fifth on any hint that i did such things...and you can't prove it
cus the photos didn't come out.)

hmm. any listees hear from jill pullen recently? please email me if you are
out there.
and pooh just rocks my world!

mike r.

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subject:      re: suffragette not about the ig?
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uh, the suff shows were supposed to be like the rolling thunder revue tour
of the 74 era but some dude named bob dylan. i have heard tapes ofg that
tour and it sounded pretty much like the same format - so yeah the indigo
girls were the central act (one can only wonder what if ann wilson showed
up) but they definitely let people like lourdes perez, kate from lucious "i
used to hate them, but she played better than when i saw her opening for
rem" jackson. thalia, josephine, and the sweetest gail ann dorsey.
i doubt this will have the same historical reverance the rtr has now tho.

peace-
mike r.

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<< ok...so today i'm in waldenbooks, and i'm really bored cuz i'm reading 3
books at the moment and there's nothing i really want to look for and
they don't carry any books by anyone that i would read anyhow...so i
went to look at the social sciences section and i saw a book called:
bury my heart at wounded knee!!!!!!
so then i gave a lil' shriek and started bouncing around and i think
that everyone in the store thought i was crazy..but i was excited *lol*
  >>

look gals, i love you all, but i see this post as an excited ig fan finding
some familiar words on the title of a book. it could have been the name of a
restaurant. it's not important what the significance of the object was. she is
not making reference to the seriousness of the subject, but merely was talking
about .."you know you'e obsessed with ig when". okay, we know now that we
should respect this book. thanks. enough!@!@

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     hey ya'll,  i was wondering if anyone managed to get a boot of the irving
plaza suff. sessions.

     if anyone does please mail me, if your not starting a tree maybe i'll
work one out. thanks a lot.
snow*

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<< ok...so today i'm in waldenbooks, and i'm really bored cuz i'm reading 3
> books at the moment and there's nothing i really want to look for and
> they don't carry any books by anyone that i would read anyhow...so i
> went to look at the social sciences section and i saw a book called:
> bury my heart at wounded knee!!!!!!
> so then i gave a lil' shriek and started bouncing around and i think
> that everyone in the store thought i was crazy..but i was excited *lol*
>  >>
>

yeah, i kinda ended up bying the book.


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subject:      listmeets.....how other lists do it

here's my thought on the listmeet situation.....

i've been on several other lists which have had major listmeets.
probably the biggest of which is u2's list, wire.  they had their
international gathering just outside amsterdam last year.  they also have
a north american gathering in chicago.  this fall, there will be
listmeets in almost a dozen cities across the us and canada.

this list won't all be able to meet in any city we select.....no matter
what.  so why don't several ambitious people plan several list meets
across this fair land:  cali, st. louis, atlanta, and wherever else.  for
several weeks, i've been in the process of planning a gather here in
denver (i made the offer to the list before, but i'll say it again....if
you're interested, drop me a line).

the problem with planning listmeets is that someone's going to get their
feelings hurt.  someone will always get bent out of shape about it.
having one "official" listmeet is more trouble than it's worth.
listmeets serve to unit lists, but there's usually so much hair-splitting
over it that it just causes trouble.

just my thought.

l'sly  <------ (listening to a special on nanci griffith on npr tonight)

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at 11:57 am 9/7/98 , monique barbanson wrote:
>now for the question: has anyone looked into the pros and cons of dat vs
>mini-disc (beyond the obvious one, ie the price). if you have, please
>share.

the definitive md site is at <http://www.minidisc.org/>, and there's a
discussion of md vs. dat at
<http://www.connact.com/~eaw/minidisc/fan_letter.html>.  in short:

dat sound quality is marginally better, but undetectable unless you have
top-of-the-line equipment (and top-of-the-line cables connecting it).

md recorders are smaller

md provides track marking, and therefore random access capability -- you
never have to ff/rew to reposition an md, you have tracks just like a cd.

md allows you to title tracks, and/or title the whole cd.  the titles then
display while the song is playing.

md time and date stamps the recording for reference.

md has incredibly easy editing capabilities.  mark, move, delete tracks
quickly.

md is contactless: no heads to clean, can pause forever without damaging
the media.

basically, i think that unless you're a complete audiophile with a stereo
setup like emily's (we read about it in some mag a while ago!), with
cabling that is more expensive than the cost of the recorder you're about
to buy, then md has it all over dat.  i bought the md recorder with the
intention of trying it out for 30 days, and i never even considered
returning it.

a quick request... don't forget your "nigc" designations, folks... list
meetings, taping and such are definitely nigc...

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hey yall
i am alomost done with the merriweather boot from 7/18.  i didnt have that
much time, and the tape recorder that it was originally taped on sucks, so
i did the best i could with what i had.  i have definitely come to the
conclusion that it is time for me to invest in an md.  anyways.  i am not a
professional mixer so for those of you who are good at it, please excuse my
ignorance at it.  there are a few parts where the volume level changes a
tad, and the another few where the levels are off, but other than that its
pretty decent.  some of you may not even notice where they are (others it
will annoy you he he)  anyways.

i am going to need 12 branches, (unless there is not enough interest, then
i can lower the amount).  its going to be on a 100 min tape because it fits
better than dividing on a 60, side b will be sarah mclachlans set from that
night.  if you are not interested in that i apologize.  so here's the
setlist, lemme know if you are interested in being a branch.

tried to be true
galileo
gone again
least complicated
shed your skin
get out the map
scooter boys
the weight
water is wide (with sarah of course)
closer to fine

peace
sasha

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pooh wrote:

> are you all crazy??if a and e ever get wind of the fact that 800 fanatic
> fans from this list of wackos ever headed to their town like locust i
> can guarentee you they would catch the next plane to siberia...

i agree.  i meant to write, but haven't had time - still need to pack,
plane's leaving in less than 24 hours.  thanks, pooh, for putting it so
succinctly and so well!

> please please please reconsider your choice of meeting..atlanta is their
> home..its bad enough we invade their privacy on the net..can't we leave
> them alone at home..
>

i can understand wanting to tour atlanta, if your'e already spending money
for an ig related trip... maybe a spot near enough that you could go for a
one day tour, and not freak the entire town out (let alone a&e)

> flame away..
> sometimes you guys amaze me
>

you know - i just wanted to say: i keep seeing this.  "flame away" "i have a
delete button" "wearing my flame retardant underwear."  and i must say -
i've never been "flamed" (i don't think, anyway)j and i'd be really
surprised if someone got nasty over a letter that contains a point of view
they may disagree with, but should be able to appreciate in spite of that.
i'm sure we all can, and mostly do, respect each other's opinions when we
disagree, and it pains me to see phrases like this...not expecting any
flames, cuz i trust y'all....

michal

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date:         tue, 8 sep 1998 01:04:43 -0700
reply-to:     michal rogson <starr@netvision.net.il>
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from:         michal rogson <starr@netvision.net.il>
subject:      re: listmeet..get real
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sharon parker wrote:

> personally i think that any flames you had for pooh should have gone to
> private message....that goes for all of us...
> peace,
>    sharoane
>

i know i'm not supposed to do this, but:
amen.
(is that supposed to be awomen, if i'm a feminist?  i'm new to this ;)

michal
who's still reeling from the not always *polite* "passion" displayed in
some of these messages...

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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 18:50:45 -0700
reply-to:     luna mook tick <luna-tick@home.com>
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from:         luna mook tick <luna-tick@home.com>
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i am addicted to the x-file movie, fight the future.  i rewrote fugative
to fit the movie.  if any body would like a copy e-mail me.  yeah for
the x-files!!!

hugs and hershey kisses~
luna

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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 21:09:47 -0500
reply-to:     ktyldy@cswnet.com
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from:         ann strother <ktyldy@cswnet.com>
subject:      re: listmeet..get real
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doyle srader wrote:

> > ------------------------------
> >
> > date:    mon, 7 sep 1998 13:56:49 -0500
> > from:    pooh <pooh40@mc.net>
> > subject: listmeet..get real
> >
> > are you all crazy??if a and e ever get wind of the fact that 800
> fanatic
> > fans from this list of wackos ever headed to their town like locust
> i
> > can guarentee you they would catch the next plane to siberia...its
> bad
> > enuf we plague them after every show wanting more and more than
> they've
> > ever agreed to give but the thought that they would have to hide in
> > their own home town in fear of groupies ( 800 of them no less)
> peering
> > from behind bushes, tracking them down the street and generally
> reeking
> > havoc would be enuf to  have them hide inside and bolt the doors..
> > please please please reconsider your choice of meeting..atlanta is
> their
> > home..its bad enough we invade their privacy on the net..can't we
> leave
> > them alone at home..
>
> we can do *both*. meet in atlanta and agree to respect them enough to
> behave
> ourselves. it never does much good to expect that people will meet
> your
> darkest expectations.
>
> > i'd say i don't mean to preach but hell..i do..you wanna work for
> > habitat for humanity..do it in your own back yard..not in a place
> where
> > a and e would see us and know how wonderful we are..do it for the
> people
> > who need your help not to impress tamy and emily and hopefully get a
>
> > show out of it.....
>
> or do *both*? the trick to getting something worthwhile accomplished
> often is
> getting together a group of motivated people. it seems to me that this
>
> listmeet is such an opportunity. why >not< take advantage of it? you
> might
> find the idea of people grandstanding for a&e distasteful (although
> that
> wouldn't be my motive, and i think you're on shaky ground doing a
> motive
> reading for anyone but yourself), but if good comes of it, so? your
> point is
> well-made, but as "after you come home from the listmeet, do *more* to
> help
> other people." (incidentally, i do. regularly. i'd go into detail, but
> that
> would be grandstanding.)
>
> > they just got off the road..count them..the sots tour, honor tour,
> > lilith tours, ss tours...let them go home and live in peace....
>
> here i agree 100%. no reason to even ask them to turn out and
> entertain us.
> they've been working pretty hard at doing just that lately.
>
> > flame away..
> > sometimes you guys amaze me
>
> i think you've got a point with all these concerns, but i have to say,
> i
> think you exaggerate them all wildly.
>
> doyle srader
> director of forensics
> arizona state university
> (602) 965-5578
>
> for more information about debate at arizona state:
> http://www.public.asu.edu/~srader/debate.html

i agree totally with you, doyle. prob quite a few of us won't make it
anyway due to various factors ~ but it is worth asking how many would be
interested at least.  i don't understand the panic we are seeing in
these posts.   [ann]

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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 22:27:09 -0400
reply-to:     * bar * <bcorrice@wam.umd.edu>
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subject:      public vs private flames
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i know..   to make everyone happy....
send one flame privately and then post a copy of the flame
publicly...
this way, everyone will be happy happy happy happy happy....
luv, bar

(kisses michal ~ you're sooo sweet!! mumzy)


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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 22:29:01 -0400
reply-to:     virginia fuller <fuller@fas.harvard.edu>
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>there, but because it's a beautiful city (and if you take the tour and find
>where the strangefire album cover was shot, more power to you, but i'm
>taking the fifth on any hint that i did such things...and you can't prove it
>cus the photos didn't come out.)

i know no one cares... but i have to say it... a matter of personal excitement:

i grew up quite literally around the corner from where the strange fire
album cover was shot. :)

thanks, i'll go back to lurking now...
virginia :)

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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 22:58:56 -0400
reply-to:     jeri humphries <jah13@arches.uga.edu>
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from:         jeri humphries <jah13@arches.uga.edu>
subject:      re: listmeet
x-to:         "emily d. mark" <emark@scf-fs.usc.edu>
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i think atlanta is an excellent meeting place....considering i am 45min
away!!!

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date:         tue, 8 sep 1998 13:13:40 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks -

does anybody know anything about this?

-sherlyn
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sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au                  [sydney, australia]
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         and i don't even get it..."    - patty larkin


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from: "barry" <barrysuttle@hotmail.com>
newsgroups: alt.music.indigo-girls
subject: indigo girls get remixed for the dance floor
date: mon, 7 sep 1998 13:32:11 -0400

have you heard the new dance remixes of "shed your skin"?

2 - mixes by stephen nickolas

and

2 - mixes by atlanta locals audio dependency syndrome, barry suttle & scott
moskos.

at present the mixes are being played at in dance clubs. and hopefully will
be released on cd single soon.

check it out and let me know what you think!

barry suttle
atlanta, ga

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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 20:31:56 pdt
reply-to:     swamp ophelia <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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from:         swamp ophelia <jillyc@hotmail.com>
subject:      grrlfriends?? really
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>so are they just dating or involved in serious
>relationships?

bar, you nut ;)

speaking of relationships...(why look, i just thought of more absolutely
un-worthwhile stuff to interject into your "every waking moments")(god i
love flamers' grammar)

i'll be making those applications for my fall fling real soon...
so stand by, young hopefuls!

heh.

jill

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date:         mon, 7 sep 1998 20:43:04 pdt
reply-to:     swamp ophelia <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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yep, making a repeat appearrance!!!
from two months ago...

>
>hey guys!  be sure and check your email!  do it!  do it!  or else
you'll
>miss five, yes, that's right, not three, not four, but five dozen
emails
>on what pooh said and then what one person said about her and then
>what another someone blowtorched her
>with, and then what a flame-retardent snag said, and then, and then,
>and......
>blahblahblah blah blah blah blah blah blahdee blah dee blah blah blah
>dee blah blaaaah blaaah blah blah blah blah blha blha blah blah blah
>blah blah yap yap yap yap yap yammmer yap yap yap yap yip yip yip
>yippeee blah blah blah blechhhh blek blekkk hmmmm hummmm hrrrrr
>harrrrumphhhh hmmm hrrrr grrrrr grrrrr *grrrrrrrr* flame flame flame
>*flame* flame! flame! flame!!!  snap crackle pop crackle crunch snap
>snap snap crackle pop pop pop snap crackle crackle ow ow ow! ouch ehrm
>uhm ah me oh meee my ohh oh ahhhh arggghhhh augghhhhh
>aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yip yip yip yiiip yap yapper yaaaaap yawp
>yawp yap blah blah blah blah blah dee blah dee blah.
>
>and if you reply now, within the next 23 minutes, you'll get this set
of
>genuine stainless steel gintzu knives, direct from rcam wholesale
>headquarters.  yes folks, this set will amaze you to within an inch of
>your life (if you've got that much left after the torches have gone to
>light someone else's fire)... it slices, it dices, it chops, chips, and
>fricassees faster than you can say, "me too!" and annoy all the digest
>folks!  watch as the amazing rcam gintzu knife saws through this tin
>can... yet it still slices this newbie's questioning head off with just
>the lightest touch!
>hurry, they're going faster than lift!  dial 1-800-you-dolt and just
>watch as you too can become the most self-righteous listee on the
web!!!
>
>the fine print:
>no bottles, cans, or cameras. rcam assumes no responsibility the safe
>and/or timely delivery.  please allow up to a year for order
>acknowledgement and shipping.  these knives will be released, at 1/3
>their original price, sometime in 2008, as a box set. melissa etheridge
>fans add 7.9% sales tax.  amy and emily fashion dolls sold separately.
>
>jill


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