lifeblood: listlogs: 1998-09b

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date: tue, 8 sep 1998 00:48:39 -0400
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thanks to jill for reposting her wonderful flame war post!  it always
brings a smile to my face!  no wonder this chickey has a fan club!
hummmm...maybe thalia would join...hehehe!  anyway, thanks, again, jilly!

love,
karen :-)

who, btw, loves the nickname "dollface"...especially when it is meant with
sarcaism...

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in a message dated 98-09-07 16:34:56 edt:

<< << isn't it great
 that someone might be tempted to buy or read a book about something and
 gain more knowledge about a significant event in our history just because
 of a song? >>
 amen to that!!! >>

well that's fine and good, but dancing for joy and
wounded knee are somehow incongruent.
just an observation, no offense intended.
read the book do a report...go wild.

:)
claire

alright, alright, i have a very decent boot that i made at the irving
plaza show. i guess i must be feeling suicidal because i'm posting this,
i'll probably have a full mailbox tomorrow am, but i feel the
responsibility to share this great show/boot with everyone even though i
really have no time to set a tree up. sooo here's the deal i'd be happy
to make a couple of copies for people, preferably in the nyc area to
make it faster, but they have to be willing to set up a tree for all the
other people who are interested.

--slavi

ps to the girl from the front of the line who suggested i stay atleast
20 rows back for a better recording, don't worry it came out great
from even though i was in front ;-)

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i'm glad that some people share my viewpoint. i'll crawl back in my hole of
working midnights now!!!!

diane

* * * * * * * * * *
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aol im'er: dispdmg

it's not the pace of life that concerns me, it's the sudden stop at the
end.

<<<"i was thinking about this as i was reading some of the posts. amy and
emily both tried their hardest to make everyone understand that the
suffragette tour was not about "the indigo girls". it was a tour of
talented, women music artists that happened to include amy ray and emily
saliers. yet, when i got to the ny show, there were two mikes set up in
the center of the stage, one for emily and one for amy. for every song
that was sung and that amy or emily were a part of, they were in the front
center of the stage, while everyone else sang behind or to the side of
them. in fact, i don't think josephine wiggs was at the front at any point
of the concert and the only time jean smith was, was when she was the only
one on stage.
-icasey">>>

i get the same impression about amy and emily "trying" to downplay their
popularity.  the sst were indeed supposed to be about the other artistic
women.  and i didn't go, but when i hear that about the mikes being set up
primarilyfor them, and then to read that part about the speakers saying,
"indigo girls -- this side up, " it makes me wonder how much they really did
try to downplay their status.  they could have separated themselves from their
status a little more.

also, do any of you remember the comments made by some other band members?
they mentioned the difference between playing/touring with ig and a. difranco.
the difference was that with a. difranco, it was easier to be a real part of
the band...unlike with ig, it's always amy and emily. just a thought.

-chee

good music of late: jump, little children

hi y'all.....

gotta throw in my nickel comment here.....how many tickets do you think the
sst would have sold without amy and emily's names attached???? in the music
business world such things matter.....despite the success of lilith, there is
still a large bias against women performers in many circles.....ranging from
the comment of an amazed fellow promoter....."i don't know how you can do so
many shows with all these.....women....." (answer.....they're my friends....i
love them, and i love their music)......to the club owner who referred to
several of my friends in vile, vulgar terms following a very successful show
because he didn't like the crowd we attracted....

you know, some people are very easy to jam with, and others have such
restrictive arrangements that it's impossible to jam without a lot of
rehearsal.... musicians that play together frequently develop a sort of
unspoken intuition for changes in tempo or dynamics.....as much fun as it can
be to see artists sharing the same stage, it can be very stressful if the
chemistry isn't right.....and who has more chemistry than a&e???

peace, y'all.....
tim

> i get the same impression about amy and emily "trying" to downplay their
>  popularity.  the sst were indeed supposed to be about the other artistic
>  women.  and i didn't go, but when i hear that about the mikes being set up
>  primarilyfor them, and then to read that part about the speakers saying,
>  "indigo girls -- this side up, " it makes me wonder how much they really
did
>  try to downplay their status.  they could have separated themselves from
>  their status a little more.
>
>  also, do any of you remember the comments made by some other band
> members?  they mentioned the difference between playing/touring with ig and
a.
> difranco.   the difference was that with a. difranco, it was easier to be a
real part of
>  the band...unlike with ig, it's always amy and emily.  just a thought.

okay...yesterday i was shopping and i'm groovin' to this tune
when it hits me.
it's a dance version of shed your skin.
it's just your typical dance song....nothin' special.
tom morello's remix kicks its ass!

on tue, 8 sep 1998 13:13:40 +1000 sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au> writes:
>hey folks -
>
>does anybody know anything about this?
>
>-sherlyn
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= a+e=ig
>sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au [sydney, australia]
> "well i've taken to talking to myself,
> and i don't even get it..." - patty larkin
>
>
>---------- forwarded message ----------
>from: "barry" <barrysuttle@hotmail.com>
>newsgroups: alt.music.indigo-girls
>subject: indigo girls get remixed for the dance floor
>date: mon, 7 sep 1998 13:32:11 -0400
>
>have you heard the new dance remixes of "shed your skin"?
>
>2 - mixes by stephen nickolas
>
>and
>
>2 - mixes by atlanta locals audio dependency syndrome, barry suttle &
>scott
>moskos.
>
>at present the mixes are being played at in dance clubs. and hopefully
>will
>be released on cd single soon.
>
>check it out and let me know what you think!

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at 01:56 pm 9/7/98 -0500, pooh wrote:

>i'd say i don't mean to preach but hell..i do..you wanna work for
>habitat for humanity..do it in your own back yard..not in a place where
>a and e would see us and know how wonderful we are..do it for the people
>who need your help not to impress tamy and emily and hopefully get a
>show out of it.....and as far as russell carter arranging a show..are
>youout of youer minds???????

i've gotta agree here y'all. i know i'm late responding but i've been out of
town. the whole idea of going to atlanta and working for habitat for
humanity is ridiculous, especially considering the ulterior motives
involved. now i know that some, many, or most of you are good, charitable
people who would do anything to promote a good cause, but don't y'all think
this is a bit conspicuous? come on people! if you're gonna volunteer for
something as worthy and important as habitat for humanity at least do it
with true sincerity, and don't sit there hoping that emily and amy are gonna
show up. like pooh said, do it in your own back yards. habitat for humanity
needs volunteers all over the u.s., not just in atlanta. i know this
probably started out as a nice idea, but it seems to me to have turned into
a major case of grandstanding. "amy! emily! look at me! i'm getting involved
with your community of atlanta (for those of you who live elsewhere) and
donating my time and energy to a good cause! come shake my hand and give me
an autograph!" to me its seems as though the whole point of volunteering,
that is, to help others, has flown right out the window when a&e's names
were thrown into the fire.

now the whole list meet thing is a good idea in theory, and i say go for it
if you want. just don't make a spectacle of yourselves if you go to atlanta.
don't make a pilgramage to emily's house. don't call up russell carter and
say "we're here!" and expect him to care. just go to have fun with each
other, and do your habitat for humanity work in your own community.

if these comments do not apply to you and/or your frame of mind, please
disregard.

y'all have a good day,

jendy

i agree with a little bit of what both pooh and her detractors have
said.  i don't think a huge group of fans converging on atlanta for a
convention of sorts is a great idea, and i don't think asking to do a
habitat project in the name of ig is necessarily wise either.  however,
i do not doubt the sincerity and the desire to do good works of the
people who suggested it.  it makes me happy that so many people on this
list have that desire to help others.  i do agree with pooh's assertion
that people should do good works in their own communities.  atlanta is a
big city with plenty of resources.  smaller towns and rural areas don't
have all the financial and manpower resources that big metropolitan
areas have, and thus need the help much more than atlanta.  no, you
probably wouldn't come into contact with a&e doing volunteer work in
your own back yard, but ideally, that should not be your motivation.  i
completely understand people wanting a&e to know their fans are socially
aware, care about the world around them, and work to make it better.  i
think they already know that, though...i've read statements to that
effect in a couple of interviews.

which leads to my other thought - that a listmeet remain a social/jam
event.  why don't we consider doing what we did in new orleans back in
'96?  about 40 listees met up for the purpose of seeing the girls at
n.o. jazz fest.  most of us stayed at the same hotel (arrangements were
made by one person, and we got a good rate for our block of rooms), we
ate, socialized and went sightseeing with each other.  we even went
bowling one night! and of course, went to the show(s) together.  at
night, we had major jam sessions.  it was a total blast.  of course,
they only did a few shows that year, so it was easier to agree on a
place to go.  but, perhaps we can revive the "fan tour" this coming
year.  is bert lefkovic (or someone who might be willing to do the
logistical work) still on the list?

personally, i'd rather get together socially, and continue to give money
as a group come birthday time, as we've done over the last two years.
maybe we could plan this around a future atlanta show date, if it falls
on a weekend.
my 2 cents...

on another note - did anyone catch sara lee jamming down with the b-52's
at the vh1 backyard barbecue special last night? is she back playing
with them, or was this just a special thing?

peace,

joan :-d

"do what you can, with what you have, where you are."
--theodore roosevelt

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whoo hoo - sara lee on vh1 w/ the b-52's - just getting ready to mention that myself! she was great! i was sitting there thinking - *that's not the b-52's bass player - who is that?* and then realization set in - omg!! it's sara!! nice surprise.

my .02 - a meet in atlanta i think is a great idea - i'd love to be a part of it. i think coming together to do some charity work is also a great idea - not to make ig show up - but just to do something good and memorable and in the *spirit* of ig while we're there. i'm the first to admit that i'm guilty of complacency when it comes to charity - i give a few dollars here and there - but it's not in the forefront of my mind on a daily basis - i think including it in a listmeet would be a good way for some of us to get our feet wet among friends - when sometimes it's difficult to get involved on your own.

i think it'd be awesome to camp - cheap too - and i'll be the first to bring my guitar & all my photocopied shorthand songsheets! sounds like a blast! would be cool to do it next summer and catch a show as part of the equation - and i think atlanta'd be great. i've never been and always wanted to go see some of the places that inspired the music i love (not just from ig, but from rem & b-52's too!).

shutting up now.

tara lane
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date: tue, 8 sep 1998 12:00:27 -0400
reply-to: 42nat1 <mmgst11+@pitt.edu>
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from: 42nat1 <mmgst11+@pitt.edu>
subject: re: suffragette not about the ig?
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hey all,

i went to the much talked about cleveland show...  the impression i got
was that amy and emily *were* _very_ much trying to downplay themselves.
yeah, they were front and center on the stage... --but, it wasn't like
they sang lead vocals and lead guitar for every song...  (that would have
been ridiculous...)  as far as my memory serves me (and heck knows i could
be wrong) they only sang lead on their own songs, and backup/harmony on
others.  there were a few songs that one or the other did not even play on
whatsoever.  for those amy usually left the stage, and emily sat down on a
chair, behind a music stand.  emily also played and sang from her chair
for a couple songs.  their persona's were also very different than when
they're headlining.  sure, they were smily (as much as they could be with
the audience's reception of the other artists), but it seemed to me they
were embarassed by all the attention that was being lavished on them,
while the crowd treated the other artists quite rudely...  the girls
didn't make as much eye-contact as usual.  to me, they seemed to be trying
to make themselves smaller and less visible the whole evening for the sake
of the other artists (their respected peers and *friends*).  well, that's
all i wanted to say. to me, the girls seemed like they were trying to
de-showcase themselves as much as possible, but the *crowd* wouldn't let
them...  oh well...

peace, melissa

at 07:19 pm 9/7/98 , laura chandra wrote:
>i was thinking about this as i was reading some of the posts.  amy and
>emily both tried their hardest to make everyone understand that the
>suffragette tour was not about "the indigo girls".  it was a tour of
>talented, women music artists that happened to include amy ray and emily
>saliers.  yet, when i got to the ny show, there were two mikes set up in
>the center of the stage, one for emily and one for amy.

in philly, there were 2 other mics up front, one at the keyboards and
another where the rotating guitarists played (usually thalia, sometimes
lourdes or jean).

> for every song
>that was sung and that amy or emily were a part of, they were in the front
>center of the stage, while everyone else sang behind or to the side of
>them.

at philly, while they remained at their respective mics (always beside,
never in front of the lead singer), they often were not spotlighted. emily
was seated when she did backing vocals on quieter songs.

> in fact, i don't think josephine wiggs was at the front at any point

true, but she didn't sing. (too bad... her cds -- as honey tongue, "nudes
nude" and as the josephine wiggs experience, "bon bon lifestyle"
<http://www.grandroyal.com/bands/josephinewiggs/>, are excellent). she did
come up front ot mc for a bit.

it's a fair question, but i think that since the tour is basically ig and
friends (i haven't seen jane siberry doing any interviews about it), it's
appropriate that they sort of be the de facto hosts.

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at 12:04 pm 9/7/98 , lamia difranco wrote:
>i wasn't actually at these so i haven't actually heard or saw jean but i
>have to say from what i've heard she sounds cool..and hey so she's not
>the ig, but amy probably really likes her stuff to have her be part of
>the tour..the average ig fan is probably not really into punk and all
>that but like they say:

i think the acceptance of thalia zedek discounts that theory. she was
great, *and* she really rocks (there are samples of come's cds at cdnow
<http://cdnow.com/from=sr-20927>. i even enjoyed shonen knife, who are
power-punk-pop or something! i can appreciate music of all types, that's
really not the issue. it's not just that i don't *like* jean smith... i
don't think she's very talented.

>gotta learn to respect what you don't understand..

yeah, that's exactly what i thought until i *did* hear and see her...
that's why i understand your impressions, but heartily disagree with them.
i'm sure jean smith has lots of fans, but i happen to think she's awful,
and i've a right to that opinion, since i *was* there and i *did* see her.
i'm sorry that jill didn't post the verses about pigeon shit that we were
treated to in philly, but i just wasn't impressed.

i think jean smith is just trying too hard... i'll stick with patti smith,
she did it first and and still does it best.

bottom line -- what requires respect here is the opinions of others. if
you think she's great, by all means, stock up on her books and cds. but
don't assume i'm close-minded because i disagree.

--
deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo

in a message dated 9/8/98 9:25:27 am eastern daylight time, tcheehill@aol.com
writes:

ok, i am not sure where this was posted, so my comments are kinda one-sided.
i was out backstage after the ny show, and i saw the truck being loaded. the
ppl who were doing the loading were trying to figure out placement of each
artists stuff on the truck. this would lead me to think that each of the
women brought their our equipment. so some of the road cases may say ig on
them but other might not.

i also have to say in nyc there was no ig music played until song 11 or 12.
this impressed me because the crowd was so wonderful, and i must admit, i did
not miss not hearing the ig music all that much.

babs: who *did* freak when the played po2 because she was just so damn happy
to be there in the first place!

could someone email me the dar list address? thanks!

anne

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date: tue, 8 sep 1998 09:51:25 -0700
reply-to: monique barbanson <monique@entelechy.com>
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is this why some listers call themselves intimate strangers (ie: nice to
a&e's face, not so nice behind their back?)

i'm completely uncomfortable with this whole thread. can't we trust
a&e's professional judgment and let them learn from the lessons of this
tour how to do a better tour next year?

at the beginning of the tour some folks wree disappointed that ig was
not doing more songs, now folks are wondering if they were too much
center stage. i so hope that they're not reading this thread nor any of
their friends.

not a flame, sorry to put chee on the spot. just to make you feel
better, i've done my share of screw ups on this list, (including no
doubt this email), but please take this thread and any similar thread we
would not feel good about having a&e reasd to private email. if noone
responds to this anymore, it'll die and we can all breathe again.

thank you so much,

monique

chee hill wrote:
it makes me wonder how much they really did
> try to downplay their status. they could have separated themselves from their
> status a little more.
>
> also, do any of you remember the comments made by some other band members?
> they mentioned the difference between playing/touring with ig and a. difranco.
> the difference was that with a. difranco, it was easier to be a real part of
> the band...unlike with ig, it's always amy and emily. just a thought.
>
> -chee

um..*l* ya'll i got this at my other addy lady_lamia the one i have on
my homepage, and icq and all. just wondering if it has anything to do
with the disagreement yesterday? i'm not a big believer in curses and
such but it is a bit freaky to get into my email and in between my
webring submissions and boot requests find this:
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from: antieroo@aol.com
date: tue, 8 sep 1998 01:13:26 edt
to: lady_lamia@hotmail.comsubject: dark

i think it is time to put your ignorance to sleep........
cheavorn kalorr kou ko sou,toche
leavor sordurm evaxnivos troveous
aurum odaum sekclee.
..........i leave you with this curse!
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*g* i mostly think it's funny, but then again, there's tons i don't know
about certain pagan religions. i sincerely doubt that anyone can curse
someone through email, and i also don't know what "ignorance" this
person is referring to. but...there's still a part of me that goes
uh-oh. does anyone happen to know if this is an actual language or
something or just gibberish?
*l@myself for even asking*

*hugs*

lamia

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but that's just a point of view,
and you know how quickly that could change, too..."
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i'm leaving tonight for atlanta,ga. home sweet home....

if i made promisses to any of you about some materials i'm getting from daemon
while there seeing three finger cowboy, michelle malone, and danielle howell
and the tantrums; don't think i have forgotten. i'm coming back next week.
see y'all later with stuff ready to trade boots and such, buck-oes!

-chee
"i'm walkin' back to georgia, and i hope she'll take me back...."
-j. croce

at 01:10 pm 9/8/98 , lamia difranco wrote:
>*g* i mostly think it's funny, but then again, there's tons i don't know
>about certain pagan religions. i sincerely doubt that anyone can curse
>someone through email, and i also don't know what "ignorance" this
>person is referring to. but...there's still a part of me that goes
>uh-oh. does anyone happen to know if this is an actual language or
>something or just gibberish?

i think it's a message from jean smith!

:-d

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date: tue, 8 sep 1998 18:56:14 +0100
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> have you heard the new dance remixes of "shed your skin"?
>
> 2 - mixes by stephen nickolas
>
> and
>
> 2 - mixes by atlanta locals audio dependency syndrome, barry suttle & > scott moskos.
>
> at present the mixes are being played at in dance clubs. and hopefully > will be released on cd single soon.
>
> check it out and let me know what you think!
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> does anybody know anything about this?

i've seen a 12" version of this up for sale on the ebay auction site.
the description is as follows:

promotional-only twelve-inch vinyl single of the indigo girls' shed your
skin, taken from their shaming of the sun album. this single contains
four wildly-remixed versions of the track, with a total playing time of
over 34 minutes! some indigo fans will be totally thrown by these
versions, as they're basically techno remixes designed to get club play
for amy & emily -- very strange concept, huh? anyway, here are the
specific versions: side 1) stephen nikolas club mix (9:03), audio
dependency syndrome skinless mix (6:44); side 2) stephen nikolas dub mix
(9:13), audio dependency syndrome ascension mix (9:07). epic records
release, matrix # eas-41374. record itself is a white-label promo that's
clearly marked demonstration only -- not for sale.

the current bid is at $20.50, so i'll be happy if a cd single of this
(at a more reasonable price) is released.

hope this helps,

claudine

delurking for a little bit today.........ok, here's a boatload of rumors
that i've gotten in last couple of days.

my buddy from viacom called me last night to say that evidently ig
*might* be on the mtv awards (sept. 10...i believe).  check your local
listings for more information.  since i am without a tv/vcr (in fact i'm
boycotting the bloody thing.....kill your television), i've been unable
to confirm this.  he thought they might be presenting an award.  to my
knowledge, they have not been nominated for anything.  however, he was
100% positive they had been invited (but was unsure whether they had
accepted).

now, with all this talk about an ig tour next summer and someone
mentioning a similar route to the '97 tour (a la 2 or 3 nights at red
rocks), i called up red rocks (ie, denver mountain parks and recreation
department) to ask about bookings for next summer. he wouldn't (read
this to mean, he knew the answer but wouldn't tell me) confirm any
particular artists names, but did mention that a group had already booked
the venue for 3 consecutive nights in june.

of course, i'm thinking to myself, ig probably wouldn't go out on tour
without a new album...... so i called up the owner of a local record
store and had him call the local epic distributer.  the distributer said
he heard from the epic sales rep that ig would have a new album out "next
year."  now, given how roundabout this information is, it's not
definitive, but still looks promising.  coupled with the other news we
have on this topic, it's looking promising.

as for the spitfire tour, everybody at the university of colorado is
being pretty tight-lipped about this.  however, i seem to recall that
when this was first "leaked" back sometime this summer, michael moore's
name was attached to it.  he's been on the lecture circuit during the
summer and is working on yet another movie and tv series.  this isn't
positive, but michael moore and cecilia r. are both rumored to be in
boulder on september 29th.  macky has been booked by program council for
an "event".

that's the story.....

l'sly

lance s. longwell
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boulder, colorado usa

don't talk to me
when my eyes are full (?)
imagining everything i do

something's not right
every star has missed it's mark tonight
you keep slidin' off the screen
into the corner of my eye

a lover's night is always cold
show me how it will unfold

don't you hide in the blind spot
around the corner from my eye (spy)
you can't deceive me tonight
i got you in my sight

now ________ wheel
try to spin me around
you can _________ my face
or you can just put your fist down

i'll pretend that i _______ you
i'll pretend that i could hold you

i'll ____
surprise surprise
when you ________ on my pride (?)

hi guys and gals!

a bit late, i know... but for those who are interested or still don't
know this, here's an article from the march edition of the free
australian music magazine "bma" (canberra's monthly entertainment
guide):
(in advance, sorry for any typing errors!)

***
from the heart

i love the indigo girls. speaking to the older of the two, emily
saliers, i was able to come full circle in my appreciation for the
influence their music has had my life. i had to declare outright that
i was a devoted fan and somehow emily's response made me feel like i
was talking to an old friend.

surely anyone could love these tow american women who are in australia
for their shaming of the sun tour. if ever you have heard their music
you would know that their naturally harmonious voices are sylloquous
with strong melodies. having met when they were "just kids", they
began writing and performing together in their mid-teens, and with a
rapidly growing fan base would, "play anywhere, for free," and because
they "loved the music... early on we definitely felt a connection, but
we didn't talk about doing it as a career together for the rest of our
lives. we really didn't start playing together until 1980, but we
started playing professionally pretty much right away, even though we
were under-age we were playing open mike nights and stuff. basically
our harmonies clicked real early on and it was just something fun to
do with your buddy".
the indigo girls' fan base continues to grow world-wide and it is not
surprising that they are still going strong. not only can these two
sing like angels and play a mean guitar each, the lyrical content of
their music has the ability to speak to a diverse range of people.
their songs are rich with history and the love of our land, our people
and our higher selves. i asked emily how she saw her music in terms of
her beliefs and was it merely a means of expression. "i don't see my
music as a gift or something i've deserved or earned. i believe in a
creator, and my music i see as a part of me as much as i am a part of
the human race. it is all connected and i have a responsibility to
play that part... amy will tell you herself, she's a pagan, i guess
i'm more of a traditionalist or whatever you want to call it, but we
both accept each other for who we are." this attitude obviously
extends itself beyond their musical careers, and having been aware
that both emily and amy involve themselves in the political struggle
of native american indians, i asked emily if she knew about the native
title debate here in australia. "i think we're all moving towards a
more wholistic approach to our lives. we have to be."
the indigo girls come to australia for their second time in five
years, this time without their sometimes bass player, sarah lee. emily
told me we were to expect a range of different songs and i wondered
how they perform certain songs from shaming of the sun, particularly
those with vocal loops. "you'll hear a lot of different sounds on the
album, we play mandolin, dulcimer, a harmonium, banjo and a bazooki.
we wanted to explore the studio more which has been great fun... but
we still love touring and getting back to our grass routs".

vicki anderson

***

if anyone of you wants a scan of this article (with this cute photo),
just contact me privately.

bye!
nicki

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> does anyone have michelle's "a swingin' christmas in the attic?"

yes and it rocks!  i don't care what time of year it is or even that i
don't really go in for christmas, this album is awsome!  you cannot beat
hearing michelle sing "let it snow" or the "beatneck night before
christmas" live, except maybe seeing her sing it live.  if you don't own
this album head right over to the mm or daemon site and order it!

deb wrote:
>i'm sorry that jill didn't post the verses about pigeon shit that we
were
>treated to in philly, but i just wasn't impressed.
well, what was the gist of the purported bird doo that you were treated
to, and i'll get right on posting it.

>i think jean smith is just trying too hard... i'll stick with patti
smith,
>she did it first and and still does it best.
>don't assume i'm close-minded because i disagree.

you're free to disagree and hold your own opinions, but, please, before
you go knocking anyone who's got the guts and gumption to throw
themselves into a body of work and then present it before the masses, at
least learn a little about the work, or its maker.

jean smith/ mecca normal is not *trying* to be patti smith.  i see how
they might seem to be somewhere along a similar vein (they've both often
been as full of shit as genuis), but i would highly doubt patti was any
influence on jean's style.  different times, places, and social
ideologies inform their work.  jean came out of the vancouver
underground music scene and, through mecca normal, helped launch the
punk feminist movement, which became known as riot grrl.  here, let me
quote something for ya:

"jean smith formed mecca normal in 1986 to subvert punk's structural
underpinnings: the paradigm of the four-piece garage band. smith
recites and chants her lyrics accompanied only by david lester's
electric guitar... their early songs were simple protests and
ruminations that were almost folksy in form, except mecca normal played
them abrasively...

mecca normal's nontraditional lineup and unabashed feminism influenced
many of their fellow northwesterners, setting the tone for the upheaval
to come. 'i can't think of anyone else who writes more powerful songs
about what it feels like to be a woman in a world of violence against
women,' bikini kill drummer tobi vail once wrote of jean smith.  in
fact, smith performed at the event that's been called 'ground zero for
revolution girl style':  girl day at 1991's international pop
underground (ipu) convention in olympia.  the growing presence of women
in the scene was acknowledged for the first time at this turning-point
gathering, filled with women making music and giving spoken-word
performances."

from rolling stone's _women in rock_, 1997.

honestly, i don't think jean's trying to be *anyone*.  jean's jean.  i
first heard her when i was 16 and she scared the shit out of me.  i
first *saw* her when i was 21 and she still scared the shit out of me...
because she made me *think*.  and she's just so damn *out there*.  i
have *never* seen the likes of her *anywhere* --not in patti smith-- nor
do i ever think i will.

jill

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the thing i don't like about it is how dated it is. she recorded it right
after president clinton won in 1992 and she makes numerous references to
him. those comments are just sort of intrusive and annoying, especially
in light of recent events.

-the other g.

on mon, 7 sep 1998, c. jane run wrote:

> >  does anyone have michelle's "a swingin' christmas in the attic?"
>
> yes and it rocks!  i don't care what time of year it is or even that i
> don't really go in for christmas, this album is awsome!  you cannot beat
> hearing michelle sing "let it snow" or the "beatneck night before

at 11:31 am 9/8/98 , lance s longwell wrote:
>my buddy from viacom called me last night to say that evidently ig
>*might* be on the mtv awards (sept. 10...i believe). check your local
>listings for more information.

well, i checked the mtv site <http://www.mtv.com>, which has either been
marvelously hacked or is a major marketing ploy, and ig are nowhere to be
found at <http://www.mtv.com/mtv/tubescan/vma98/showinfo/index.html>.
which is not to say they won't be there, just more info. i'd be
disappointed if they did show up for that circus! besides, when was the
last time you saw an ig video on mtv?!

--
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someone writes:

<< my buddy from viacom called me last night to say that evidently ig
*might* be on the mtv awards (sept. 10...i believe). check your local
listings for more information. since i am without a tv/vcr (in fact i'm
boycotting the bloody thing.....kill your television), i've been unable
to confirm this. >>

that would be a delightful thing!
(it would also be an odd thing, considering mtv hasn't exactly had a great
track record with ig.)
well, i wanted to watch it anyway for hole's performance (btw, the new album
rocks, and you should all go buy it right now!), but i can't because of stupid
sat review course orientation . . . *sigh*

off the tangent:

anyhow, they air the video music awards over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over after the initial airing, so someone watch
thursday, and then if they are on, people like me can be sure to catch it the
15th time!

~ elizabeth

*****
i'll have a quote someday.

emb ~ goddess in training

*****

hey everyone,

i'll *try* to be as short and sweet as possible about this as i can be...

based on my attendance at the cleveland show, here's what i've come up
with about jean smith and her negative reception by a number of sst
goers...

from my viewpoint, i think some reasons why a lot of people don't like
jean smith, or think she is "scary", or whatever...  are because she's not
a "pretty" woman...  i don't mean appearance-wise.  (although, she
certainly doesn't carry herself daintily...) i mean her style of
expressing herself.  she doesn't sing with a "heavenly" soprano voice.
sure, amy doesn't either.  but, she's not "mean" about it. (not to
mention that a surprising share of ig fans seem to get freaked out/
annoyed/bothered by amy sometimes when she gets wailin' {while other fans
live and breathe for those moments}) but, jean has what appears as a very
"negative" attitude on stage, and some people think because of this
that she's not "cool," but annoying/scary/bothersome...

in my simple mind, i just see jean as being "punk."  in cleveland, when
jean was introduced (before she had gotten audible negative reaction from
the crowd) she flipped everyone off.  a very punk thing to do.  once jean
did start to get noticably negative reactions from many audience members,
her "attitude" which seemed somewhat "dormant" before, grew and
intensified.  the more the audience yelled rude comments and booed, the
more the crowd grew to hate her (at least that's certainly what i sensed
from all those i could hear), the more she reveled in it.  a love-hate
relationship.  jean loved for everyone to hate her. she fed off of it and
amplified whatever she could to feed the crowd's hatred of her.  why would
she *want* this?  i don't know.  maybe it's not something she wants so
much, as what she gets and how she chooses to react to it. jean's a very
"non-mainstream" chick in a much more "mainstream" crowd than if she was
performing to those who liked/understood her genre of music...  by
"mainstream" i mean folk/pop-y (etc.) compared to punk...

i could be wrong.  i could be completely misrepresenting/misinterpreting
jean.  but, that's what i get from her.  i think the genre her music and
attitude come from is too far from what a lot of ig fans stick to like
glue... not that there's anything wrong with really liking something, but
when you hear something that's markedly different from what you like, it
doesn't mean it's bad, it's just different.  it can be unappealing to you.
fine.  but, being overtly rude and saying she's scary, lacking in any
talent  whatsoever, etc. is very immature and disrespectful.

i'm *not* responding to any specific opinions expressed on this mailing
list...  i got enough fodder at the cleveland concert for this post...
but, now that all this talk has taken place on the list, i thought i'd add
my opinion...  feel free to disagree.  we all have our own twisted
opinions. :)  flame privately please...  take care y'all.  this really was
as brief as i could be!

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -amy ray

-my life is more than a vision -emily saliers

-i am a problem child/ i've been wild all my days/ all my anger and my
rage/ my senses said it would lead me astray/ i said go, go, go -a.r.

my apologies to everyone who emailed me about getting a copy of this boot
-- i am the canada branch, but i recently had to reinstall my entire email
software package, and in the process i lost all the information that i had
saved -- including any addresses of people who wanted a copy of this boot.
i'm still glad to spin copies for you, but you'll have to email your
requests again, so that i know who you are. then, we can finalize details
about trades/blanks, etc.

thanks, and sorry for all the delay and hassle,

robin

in a message dated 08/09/98 14.43.19 est, sphinx13d76@yahoo.com writes:

<< amy will tell you herself, she's a pagan >>

wowie, amy a pagan? i don't want to start a discussion, in fact, i shouldn't
have even posted this, but i just found that quite faschinating, if it's true.
coolie.

peace.eri

jill wrote:
i'll be making those applications for my fall fling real soon...
so stand by, young hopefuls!

oh damn and i'm taken!! *pouting*
*giggles* just kidding ya'll!!

*hugs*

lamia

"you seem like a girl with the world on your side,
but that's just a point of view,
and you know how quickly that could change, too..."
--amy ray
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in a message dated 9/4/98 1:26:02 am eastern daylight time, jenindgo@aol.com
writes:

<>

for anyone on the indigohio lilith meet, i like the idea of the laminated
badges that don and family made for us.  for those of you who weren't there -
it had our screen name along with our "real" name and a nice graphic along
with the date and the lilith fair info.  it would be a more economical
alternative to t-shirts and could have the "intimate strangers" along with our
screen/real names.  it might be a little easier to coordinate for the entire
list.

take care,

~leslie

"my place is of the sun and this place is of the dark
(by grace my sight grows stronger, grows stronger)" emily saliers aka email

in a message dated 98-09-08 13:58:19 edt, claudine@cableinet.co.uk writes:

<< some indigo fans will be totally thrown by these
versions, as they're basically techno remixes designed to get club play
for amy & emily -- very strange concept, huh? >>

hey yall
i dony really know what to think here. i mean i know ig are all about
expanding their musical horizons and what not, but it kinda seems much more
like a marketing ploy to me, and with this whole discussion about ss, (not
that all of the generalizations are true) i just kinda wonder what they or
their managment or their record label is trying to get at...   cause i was
reading an article where amy was talking about having a larger fanbase
overseas and that it kinda scares them and they arent really into world
domination, so what is this whole deal of remixes being released into a huge
clubscene ???  if it is just a promo than i guess its just experimentation
which i think is a wonderful thing.  i guess am just kind of confused.   i
think its very cool that they can do whatever they want with their music, but
i dunno, if i really have a point i guess... i just wanna hear what other
people think about this...

peace
sasha

hello everyone!
i am crawling out of my lurkspace to ask if anyone out there happens to have a
boot of either the 1995 palace/new haven ct show, or the 1997 washington, dc
benefit show (with bonnie raitt). i would love to hear from you if you do,
and are willing to make a copy for me.
thanks in advance...
terri
:)
(p.s. i have very little to trade, but will do my best to offer something you
will enjoy.)

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<snippage>
> it had our screen name along with our "real" name and a nice graphic along
> with the date and the lilith fair info. it would be a more economical
> alternative to t-shirts and could have the "intimate strangers" along with our
> screen/real names. it might be a little easier to coordinate for the entire
> list.

i have to say that this sounds good to me. i love the idea of
t-shirts, but at an event like newport, sometimes it's too dang hot to
wear even a tank, much less a t-shirt. something like this seems like
it's easily recognized and much less expensive to produce.

about the whole listmeet idea, i think it's a great idea.  i've had good
experiences meeting listees and have benefitted from their generosity and
kindness.   if we have one on the east coast, i definitely vote for
atlanta.  i have never had the opportunity to travel there, and would love
to visit!

anyway, that's just my two pennies.

kelly

obindigo:  i got my hands on one of those scholastic samplers from last
year finally.  after being dubbed the indigo freak at work for going up
to burlington and then right to work after i returned, one of the
periodicals people found it at home and brought it in for me.  :))))

*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*
*% kelly fairbairn *%
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sasha friedman wrote:

> < what not, but it kinda seems much more like a marketing ploy to me,
> and with this whole discussion about ss, (not that all of the
> generalizations are true) i just kinda wonder what they or their
> managment or their record label is trying to get at... cause i was
> reading an article where amy was talking about having a larger fanbase
> overseas and that it kinda scares them and they arent really into
> world domination, so what is this whole deal of remixes being released
> into a huge clubscene ???>>

personally i think it is a good way the spread the yummy music of the
girls to people who wouldn't normally listen.  i have a friend who did
know who joni mitchell and after listening to the girls she got really
interested in her music.  so a new spin on things can be good.  i really
doubt that the girls are looking to world domination.  that thought
frightens me.

hugs and hershey kisses~
luna

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i also found this interesting. i was under the pretense that both
of them still were influenced by the christian background....i
suppose i just assumed emily and amy's beliefs were similar.
on tue, 8 sep 1998 19:00:58 edt owl moontide <indigo0521@aol.com> wrote:
> in a message dated 08/09/98 14.43.19 est, sphinx13d76@yahoo.com writes:
>
> << amy will tell you herself, she's a pagan >>
>
> wowie, amy a pagan? i don't want to start a discussion, in fact, i shouldn't
> have even posted this, but i just found that quite faschinating, if it's true.
> coolie.
>
> peace.eri
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i am looking for any indigo girls bootlegs, but i am partial to amy ray. i
will provide blank tapes and sase, so if someone could help me out i would
appreciate it. thanks. kerry [kfay01@shepherd.wvnet.edu]

hey yall
i re-read my post and i dont mean in any way to attack what they are doing or
techno music, i happen to be a big fan of it. however it just seemed to me
that everything they have been doing lately was a publicity thing, and i know
that they are artists and they need to be publicized, i just always thought
they were all about not being all over. i think its great that they can be
experimental with their music. i just kinda got this weird vibe about it thats
all...i really just wanted to know what other people thought about it.

peace
sasha

hey folks,

someone mailed me regarding an amy interview at the
following address:
http://www.c-cafe.com/amy-ray.html

it's pretty short and mostly about daemon. i will
forward it along in a minute...

sherlyn
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sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au                  [sydney, australia]
        "well i've taken to talking to myself,
         and i don't even get it..."    - patty larkin

hey folks,

here is that article i mentioned, from the celebrity
cafe. that url again:
http://www.c-cafe.com/amy-ray.html

cheers,
sherlyn

===
amy ray, of the indigo girls and daemon records
by dominick a. miserandino

dm) what made you decide to start up daemon records?

ar) i wanted to keep my feet in the underground...i had a lot of
talented friends with no way /infrastructure to get their music
out. i love the underground, grassroots-collective philosophy of
punk.

dm) do you find that it gets too time consuming and interrupts
your own musical career?

ar) sometimes, but it also fuels my career...whenever i'm
thinking that i am not spending enough time on my own music i
pull back a little and let my employees carry the burden for the
label...they are great friends and allow me the luxury ...mostly
i depend on daemon to inspire my sense of what music means to me
and the indigo girls.

dm) do you ever find musical inspiration for the indigo girls in
the bands you sign?

ar) yes...most of the bands i sign tend to be major influences
on my own music and some of them may influence the way i
approach production and even live shows.... also they become
good friends.

dm) comparing the advantages and disadvantages of a major label
versus an independent one, if you could choose to, would you
sign the indigo girls to daemon records?

ar) i wouldn't be on my own label because emily would be
uncomfortable with the integration but i would for sure be on an
indie, like "kill rock stars." i think the truth is that all
labels live on a spectrum of capitalism...even indies can lose
sight of the real soul of music... i have had a good experience
on epic and got a lot out if it...but was lucky...my preference
now would be an indie... mostly because the ties financially of
any major label corporation go beyond anything i feel
comfortable with...politically the world's globalized economic
state compel me to want to get away from any corporate ties.

dm) does daemon records ever give you more pleasure then
playing with the indigo girls?

ar) yes.

dm) what advice would you give to an independent artist trying
to get signed to an independent record label?

ar) the most important thing to any good indie is signing
touring bands...you should be prepared to tour and sell your
self on this point...also you should be willing to help in the
promotion of your own record. don't expect a indie to have money
expect them to have a good caring..."not hipper than thou" staff
who will really be behind you. and expect them to have a good
distribution set up...even very small distributors can be great
as long as they and you are focused on your touring.

dm) what does being a non-profit label mean?

ar) actually its, "not for profit" and it means if we ever make
profit...(which we don't) we always roll it into the next
project or some benefit cause.

dm) how do you go about reviewing the demos?

ar) i listen to the first song and if it doesn't grab me... i
pass on it.i don't care about recording quality.in fact i prefer
cassettes.

dm) does any part of managing the label stress you out like a
"typical job"?

ar) yeah...sometimes i am just tired...the most stressful thing
is when i have an amazing band who has great press and is
touring but still not selling records...i want my bands to so
well and feel satisfied in a relative way with their
accomplishments... if they don't see tangilble reslults i get
stressed.

dm) could you ever give up the indigo girls and just do this?

ar) maybe.... but it's hard to separate the two.... they feed
off each other.

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sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au                  [sydney, australia]
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         and i don't even get it..."    - patty larkin

i think atlanta, ga and us doing something for charity is a good idea. one
thing i never been to atlanta and it sounds like a good place to visit.
just have plans the plans of the area and time of year picked, before jan.
i say sometime in late may or early june. missy

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---everything they have been doing lately has been a publicity
thing....---
;
i think that they are getting more publicity just because they are so
good. i really don't think they have setout to publicize themselves. have
you seen them on mtv lately? (unless they show up this thursday, i'll be
watching.)
just my thoughts
jeri

hi everyone--

i'm pretty new to this list and i don't really know anyone on it yet.  i live
in a chicago suburb and was just wondering if anyone on the list lives in the
chicago area.  not too many people i know are into ig music and it would be
nice to know some more people in my area to get together with and go to any
upcoming ig shows.  so if you're from the area just send me a note and say
hi...if you're not from the area but would still like to say hi..feel free.
and by the way, i'm still looking for anyone who would be willing to get me a
copy of any sst shows they booted (especially if it was the 2nd chicago
show)...e-mail me at ginacam@aol.com...talk to ya' later  --gina :)

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thanks to everyone who responded to my plea! i have found them.
terri :)

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date: wed, 9 sep 1998 05:21:40 pdt
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the very brilliant melissa wrote:
>i just see jean as being "punk."  in cleveland, when
>jean was introduced (before she had gotten audible negative reaction
from
>the crowd) she flipped everyone off.  a very punk thing to do.
>more the crowd grew to hate her,
>the more she reveled in it.  a love-hate
>relationship.  jean loved for everyone to hate her.
she's right on the money with this observation.  i think it has a lot to
do with the content of her pieces:  violence, sexism, captivity of
women... i got the impression that she was deliberately trying to scare
off people... maybe that's how, in her mind, she "weeds" out the
"worthy" from the un-worthy.  whenever she would stare at us, i would
make sure to meet her gaze and hold her stare.  like i wanted to show
her that she wasn't gonna scare me away, that i was there to hear her
out, no matter how nasty toward us (ahem, cleveland) she got.  i had the
feeling that if you could hang on for the bumpy ride, you'd see the
message hidden beneath.  and for myself, i was right.

so why *was* she so mean?  i think that those of you who have ever been
made to feel like an outcast or not as good as the mainstream crowd
around you know exactly why jean acted the way she did. it's one of
those "kick 'em down before they kick you" defense mechanisms.  i'm told
that she's actually really great and appreciative of a mecca normal
crowd.  she may have just felt very much like a
>"non-mainstream" chick in a much more "mainstream" crowd than if she
was
>performing to those who liked/understood her genre of music
while on the sessions tour.

>when you hear something that's markedly different from what you like,
it
>doesn't mean it's bad, it's just different.  it can be unappealing to
you.
>fine.  but, being overtly rude and saying she's scary, lacking in any
>talent  whatsoever, etc. is very immature and disrespectful.
wooo hoooooooooo
you go

jill

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i have heard that the indigo girls came out publicly in 1994, and even
though i started listening to them from 91 (and somehow knew they were gay
back then), i must have missed it! :) does anyone know the details about
this? (when and where)

thanks!
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date: wed, 9 sep 1998 10:16:50 -0400
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guys,
i really don't want to get involved in this debate.......i just had a cool
idea though(i think).
how about whatever city you decide to meet in someone contacts habitat for
humanity and tries to organize getting a house built the weekend you're in
town?????? i have no idea what this entails (particularly timewise, but
don't these houses go up pretty quick?) or if this is possible, but if the
predominance of the volunteers were from the list, it would be like a house
built in honor of the girls. i believe i've heard along the way somewhere
that they support this cause and of course one of the main proponents of
that organization is jimmy carter(a georgia boy no less)......which kind of
casts another vote towards atlanta being the chosen city i guess....but it
doesn't have to be......
just a thought....
perhaps i'm being too idealistic here..but i've been accused of setting
lofty goals before............
the important thing is just to have fun and meet some new people but how
amazing would it be to build someone a home!!!!????
later
cheri

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date: wed, 9 sep 1998 10:26:34 -0400
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hi!
does anyone have anything from the independent years? i've been looking
for blue food forever! but am interested in anything...
thanks!
meg

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oh, but i'm available, jilly ;)

(references available upon request)
--shelley

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as the sunshine was following me home on my hour and a half ride this morning,
i began thinking.. i popped in 1200 curfews, and was suddenly taken back to
the old days when i first began listening to the indigo girls.. was very
peaceful knowing that i used to just listen contently, and so often now i find
myself oohing and ahhing over what's what and what amy's all about and what
kind of person emily is down deep inside, and i realized! why do i spend so
much time worrying ab who is or isnt an amy/emily fan... it's their music i
love, and it's their music that brought me to do so much more with myself
these days...not their lives... their talents...so, maybe if we all stop and
think... they are the indigo girls that we love so dearly, not amy and
emily...not their personal lives.. and i plead guilty on this one too....hmm,
maybe this makes no sense, but i thought i'd try to share these thoughts
anyways...

have a good one,
erin tripp

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""was very
peaceful knowing that i used to just listen contently, and so often now
i find
myself oohing and ahhing over what's what and what amy's all about and
what
kind of person emily is down deep inside, and i realized! why do i
spend so
much time worrying ab who is or isnt an amy/emily fan... it's their
music i
love, and it's their music that brought me to do so much more with
myself""

so readin g your words was very gratifying to see that someone else sees
the beauty and the value of remebering the original why and how it means
so much to us. that sometimes when the going gets so hard and convaluted
that it is the simple pleasures of our past we turn to for comfort.

thank you.
well said.
sparkie.

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hi y'all......

erin wrote:

> it's their music i
>  love, and it's their music that brought me to do so much more with myself
>  these days...not their lives... their talents...so, maybe if we all stop
and
>  think... they are the indigo girls that we love so dearly, not amy and
>  emily...not their personal lives.. and i plead guilty on this one
too....hmm,
>
>  maybe this makes no sense, but i thought i'd try to share these thoughts
>  anyways...

a good point, but part of what makes an artist "special" is the amount of
him/herself that is invested in his work.....there are song "craftspersons"
who are capable of cranking out one hit song after another like fords on an
assembly line.....what sets artists like the indigo girls apart is the fact
that you can't separate the music from its creators.....amy and emily, apart
from being great writers and performers, are also great human beings.....and
i, for one, love their humanity as much as their music....

peace.....
tim

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at 05:50 pm 9/8/98 , 42nat1 wrote:
>when you hear something that's markedly different from what you like, it
>doesn't mean it's bad, it's just different.

not necessarily, but it *might* be bad, right?  i mean, isn't there such a
thing as "bad," or do you think it's all subjective?  could i write
anything and call it good poetry ("you just don't get it")?  maybe i should
release a cd and hope for reviews like ""you know, she doesn't sing in tune
like most people do, but that's not bad, it's just different."

>  it can be unappealing to you.
>fine.  but, being overtly rude and saying she's scary, lacking in any
>talent  whatsoever, etc. is very immature and disrespectful.

"scary" just has no place in a music review, but why why why can't one hold
the opinion that someone is lacking talent?! it's absurd call people
immature for disagreeing with your opinion of an artist. i would never try
to change anyone's mind about smith, but i *will* reserve the right to
express *my* opinion about her without being called immature and
disrespectful.

it's not as though i think everyone i don't like has no talent. to the
contrary, jean smith is the first i can recall ever leaving me with such an
impression. there are many links on my music index to artists that i
appreciate and think my visitors would expect to see there, even though i
don't like them that much myself for whatever reason (i.e., tori amos), and
i've always appreciated the diversity of amy and emily's tastes (i don't
like rage against the machine, but i think they're talented and it's cool
that ig are fans).

that's my last comment on the issue... i'll let those who would stifle my
opinion in favor of their own have the last word.

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okay...sparkie is coming forward to submit unto jill for the
ffposition..........also references available.....

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here's some interview snippets about this...

june 2, 1997 hits:

>-you draw on a great deal of spiritual imagery. where did all that come from?
>ar: i was a religion major, and i've been fascinated by different cosmic
>views and sacred texts of cultures around the world. actually, i'm personally
>more pagan, so my spirituality comes from nature and the oneness of it.
>es: my father is an ordained minister...he teaches theology and writes sacred
>music. but growing up, i never had anything shoved down my throat.

may 1997 "stomp and stammer" interview with amy (full interview on my ig
index <http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo/indigo.html>):

> what sort of religious teaching did you have growing up?
>
> "i was brought up as a methodist, and have a couple uncles that are
>ministers, and my granddad was [a minister], and we went to church every
>sunday, and i was in the youth group, and sunday school, did everything.
>i went to decatur methodist, and it was a very pragmatic sort of church.
>we had a couple of ministers that i didn't agree with about anything,
>and then we had a couple that, they'd read philosophy during the sermon,
>and quote really cool people, and i was like, 'wow, this is so radical!'
>it was never that idea of fundamentalism i was initiated into the idea
>of asking questions early on. but i'm not a christian. i have a
>relationship with jesus, but it's my own, and it's not a christian one.
>jesus is one part of everything i believe. you know, christianity
>imposes the idea that 'this is the only way to salvation,' and i don't
>believe it. i'm more of a pagan. i'm a pagan for jesus!"

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i second that!!!! always up for a fall fling... ; )

i cant much for how desirable i am...youd have to determine that
yourself....

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at 08:24 pm 9/8/98 , sasha friedman wrote:
>i dony really know what to think here. i mean i know ig are all about
>expanding their musical horizons and what not, but it kinda seems much more
>like a marketing ploy to me

all singles are marketing!

i don't have any idea how much ig would have had to do with a remix, but
i'm not concerned about it either way. by all appearances, they're the
most grounded platinum-selling artists around, and whatever success they
achieve is shared with others less fortunate.

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at 8:24 pm -0400 9/8/98, sasha friedman wrote:
>in a message dated 98-09-08 13:58:19 edt, claudine@cableinet.co.uk writes:
>
><< some indigo fans will be totally thrown by these
> versions, as they're basically techno remixes designed to get club play
> for amy & emily -- very strange concept, huh? >>

i recently heard a sys remix played at a club. i think it was the morello
one, but it was a little different. was fun to dance to tho, and when i
mentioned to a couple of people that it was ig , they were suprised, but
liked it. doesn't hurt to widen your fan-base, if you want to make a living
writing and playing music.

back under my rock

the "dancing queen"

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hey all!

for all the years i've liked ig, i've never figured out why ig and rem
don't "get along" anymore.  i'm not trying to start any rumors, or
anything.  i don't have any hard proof that ig and rem dislike one
another.  all i know is that several years ago these two groups were
apparently pretty friendly.  rem lending their talents to ig songs, etc...
but, i never hear of them doing anything together anymore.  sure, just
because to me they don't seem to interact, doesn't mean they don't like
each other.  but, for some reason i think i recall reading/hearing that
they had a "falling out"... for what reason, i have no idea.

why i'm bringing this up (what sparked my interest) is that i recently
saw michael stipe on charley rose's show (or whatever that guy's name is)
and michael reminded me (politically speaking) immensely of amy. not
anything in particular, just his general outlook. to me, they'd seem like
they'd get along quite well, like they'd be interested in doing the same
sort of things, activism/charity-wise.

let me say, as i always do... these are just the convoluted impressions
that i've picked up along the way.  i'm writing to you all to see if
anyone can give me any more solid info. regarding this relationship.
yeah, i realize this is tip-toeing on the line of too "personal" to
discuss.  i'm not suggesting that there is/was any relationship besides a
professional/musical one.  i just wondered what happened to it.  why it
doesn't seem to exist any longer.  i have my own unfounded guesses, but
i'm sure you've all heard enough of what i have to say already...
so, does anyone know anything about this?!  am i completely imagining
their lack of relationship?  thanks for your help. :)

peace, melissa

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-my life is more than a vision -emily saliers

-i am a problem child/ i've been wild all my days/ all my anger and my
rage/ my senses said it would lead me astray/ i said go, go, go -a.r.

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i've been inundated with responses to this... all branch positions are
filled. i expect to make a leaf announcement in 3-4 weeks. info will be
going out to branches later today.

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does anyone know if you can still get tickets to the spitfire concert in
clemson, sc?

sharon

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this beautiful message was posted to the newsgroup.  enjoy!
>
>                           shelter from the storm
>
> it is often the artist s role in america to lead us to social change.
>
> watching the suffragettes sessions tour travel from norfolk to philadelphia
>
> to new york, i got the feeling that the concert organizers intend to do just
>
> that.
>
> amy ray and emily saliers of indigo girls put together a most unlikely group
>
> of women musicians. they were black, hispanic, oriental, white, northern,
>
> southern, american, foreign, straight, and gay.  the music the suffragettes
>
> produced was as rich and varied as the tapestry of american life itself.
>
> their music moved up and down the scale from gentle soul piercing melodies
>
> to raw passionate hard rock.  lisa germano s "way below the radio"  echoed
>
> like a half  forgotten  hymn.  you could almost see the prayers of many join
>
> as one and float to heaven on lisa s beautiful voice.
>
> at a time when a news journalist recently commented that we have become a
>
> nation of liars,  amy ray  shouted to the rafters for honesty.  gail ann
>
> dorsey s soulful rendition of "midnight train to georgia"  took me back to
>
> the civil rights movement in alabama  - george wallace and forced bussing -
>
> and a twelve year old boy who sat alone the classroom for a year because he
>
> was black.   gail ann was certainly not alone on this stage.
>
> in the end, what these women brought  us to is the american ideal of a world
>
> founded on truth, justice, and equality.  i have spent half of my adult life
>
> in foreign lands and on foreign battlefields surrounded by people who would
>
> give anything to be american.  from distant shores, america is a beacon of
>
> hope in a dark world, a land of plenty  where everyone has an equal chance.
>
> as you get closer to home,  you see that justice isn t always blind, and equal
>
> protection under the laws doesn t apply to everyone equally.
>
> the suffragette sessions gave me an opportunity to reflect on my own small
>
> battles in the womens  rights movement.  i was one of the first women
>
> at notre dame, one of the army s first female paratroopers, and a veteran
>
> of six combat and humanitarian operations.  i have lived under scuds, slept
>
> in  frozen minefields, waded through raw sewers, and jumpmastered planeloads
>
> of paratroopers in solid darkness from 800 feet.
>
> as a young captain, i worked passionately for the repeal of the combat
>
> exclusion laws of 1945, taking my case all the way  to lieutenant general
>
> norman schwartzkopf.  the 3 shiny stars on his mammoth shoulders could not
>
> deter the optimism of youth.  as a result of desert storm, women now fly
>
> combat aircraft and command combat ships.   i have been offered the
>
> holy grail for army officers - command of a battalion of upwards of
>
> 1,000 troops.
>
>
>
> still, with every victory, there is always someone trying hard to turn back
>
> the clock.    let this be our message to you.  we will not go back.  our
>
> ideals are stronger than your injustice.
>
> amy and emily,  you have no idea how good it feels to know that all those
>
> years i was away defending the rights of others, you ve been here defending
>
> mine.
>
> there will be longer and harder and lonelier battles in the months and  years
>
> to come.  when weary, we will all think back on the suffragette sessions tour
>
> and gain strength in the kindred spirits who came together for one bright
>
> shining moment.
>
> suffragettes, this stuff you ve  made, it s powerful.  don t stop now.  thanks
>
> ya ll, for the 3 nights you gave me shelter from the storm.
>
>                                                         marilyn mcallister
>
>                                                         lieutenant colonel
>
>                                                         u.s. army
>
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hello, all!
        i'm sorry to repost something so long, but i haven't had quite enough
orders to get the quantity discounts i need to offer you guys such low
prices,
so look over the list and let's decorate our guitar cases and cars and such!
the sooner you reply the sooner i can get everybody's stickers out to 'em!
tell all your friends so we can get this show on the road!  (no pun
intended... on the road... bumper stickers... get it? =) )  also, if you've
already sent me an order, it's sitting right here; i really need a few more
orders to get this second shipment off the ground.  i'd like to order them
asap. =)  thanks, sarah

<< okay, i did this about 2 years ago, so i guess it's time to do it
again...
 basically, i have a catalogue of bumper stickers here. with the quantity
 discounts bumper stickers are cheap, so that's why it's easier to do it on
the
 list. okay, it's not easier for me, personally, but it's easier for all
you
 guys. =) i don't make a profit at all (obviously) and you get some cool
 stuff! so, here's the list of what's available. what you do is pick the
ones
 you like and write them down on a piece of paper. please be specific. on
 that paper also write your name, address, and e-mail address, and maybe
even
a
 little note to me so i feel loved. ;) then e-mail me with the list of what
 you want and i'll write back with the dollar total and my address so you
can
 send me that piece of paper along with your payment. it's that simple.
 i'm also here if you have questions about the procedure. =) i'm going to
stop
 taking orders eventually, so please reply as soon as you decide what you'd
 like to have. =) the following stickers are just basic bumper sticker
size.
 they are in various colours, etc.

   relax! you'll get there
   whatever you do... is it necessary, truthful, and kind?
   designated drivers are the life of the party
   ageism will catch up to you
   i think therefore i'm dangerous
   "speak your mind, even if your voice shakes"
   emancipate yourself from mental slavery.  none but ourselves can free our
   minds.
   tobacco sucks the life out of you
   people are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's easier
to
   harass
              rich women than motorcycle gangs.
   breathe
   spare the fenders, save the trees, give your sober friend the keys
   just say neigh to premarin
   managed care is neither
   hmo phobic
   to hell with the baptists, i'm going to disneyland
   children are people too
   minds are like parachutes - they only function when open
   live simply that others may simply live
   meat is dead
   kill your television
   why be normal?
   come out, come out, wherever you are
   homophobia is a social disease
   fight racism
   haterd is not a family value
   it's never ok to hit a child
   support organic farmers
   heart attacks... god's revenge for eating his animal friends
   courtesy is contagious
   i'm straight but not narrow
   hang up and drive
   celebrate diversity
   television is drugs
   fight prime time - read a book
   mean people suck
   dare to think for yourself
   equal rights are not special rights
   currently training to avoid a mid-life crisis
   be kind to animals - don't eat them
   vegetarians taste better
   you can have my gun when you pry it from my paranoid, mentally disturbed,
               physically abusive, cold, dead hand
   don't postpone joy
   condoms are easier to change than diapers
   fight aids not people with aids
   i don't need therapy i need money
   vegetarians are sprouting up all over
   i don't eat anything with a face
   torturing one animal is cruelty, torturing many animals is science?
   television ruined my life
   just say no to ritalin
   the truly educated never graduate
   our national health plan - don't get sick!
   i embarass my offspring
   honor teachers
   nuclear waste - mobile chernobyl
   the nation that destroys its soil destroys itself
   be a lawn outlaw (picure of mower with slash)
   treehugger
   plug into renewable energy
   save the humans
   love your mother
   think globally, act locally
   paper from paper not from trees
   choice
   ginger rogers did everything fred astaire did: only backwars and in heels
   eve was framed
   peace at home*  *battery not included
   i brake for amazons
   queen without a country
   witches parking (all others will be toad)
   uppity women unite
   every mother is a working mother
   god is coming and is she pissed!
   a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle
   women are great leaders- you're following one
   pro child pro choice
   the labor movement "the folks who brought you the weekend"
   don't blame me. i voted for nader
   the earth does not belong to us- we belong to it
   compost happens
   humans aren't the only species on earth - we just act like it
   plants and animals disappear to make room for your fat ass
   the hole in the ozone is directly related to the hole in yout head
   reduce-reuse-recycle-restore
   deforestation the doorway to hell
   take nothing but pictures- leave nothing but footprints
   extinct is forever
   i'm pro-choice and i vote
   wild women don't get the blues
   against abortion?  then don't have one
   thelma & louise live
   if you can't trust me with a choice, how can you trust me with a baby?
   just say no to sex with pro-lifers
   my other car is a broom
   femenism is the radical notion that women are people
   if you feel attacked by femenism, it's probably a counter-attack
   i support breast cancer research
   they are nopt hot flashes... they are power surges
   towanda!
   never another battered woman
   peace on earth good will toward women
   i (heart) big brother
   subvert the dominant paradigm
   "your silence will not protect you"
   there's no government like no government
   execution stops a beating heart
   america needs a second party
   our factories are all overseas.  all we produce here are rich executives
   i'd rather be smashing imperialism
   xena for president
   question authority
   no one is free when others are oppressed
   lobotomies for republicans - it's the law!
   free leonard peltier
   invest in america - buy a congressman
   dare to keep the cia off drugs
   politicians and diapers need to be changed... often for the same reason
   under republicans, man exploits man.  under democrats, it's just the
opposite
   honor treaty rights
   doing my part to piss off the religious right
   i believe in life before death
   christian not closed minded
   militant agnostic i don't know & you don't either
   if going to church makes you a christian, does going to the garage make you
a
           car?
   millenium, schmillenium
   god was my copilot but we crashed in the mountains and i had to eat him
   you may say i'm a dreramer but i'm not the only one
   hell i'ts not the heat it's the humidity
   born again pagan
   i think, therefore i don't listen to rush limbaugh
   the road to hell is paved with republicans
   empty the prisons - make room for congress
   if progress means to move forward, what does congress mean?
   friends don't let friends vote republican
   guns don't kill people- radical pro-lifers kill people
   will be president for food
   the media are only as liberal as the conservative businesses that own them
   "better a bleeding heart than none at all."
   if you're noy outraged, then you're not paying attention
   lead, follow, or get out of the way
   peace begins when the hungry are fed
   if god inteded us to vote we would have been given candidates
   the arts are not a luxury
   organize!
   indian country (graphic of the americas)
   if christ is the answer, what was the question?
   my karma ran over your dogma
   god protect me from your followers
   jesus is a liberal
   jesus is coming, look busy
   come the rapture, can i have your car?
   my goddess gave birth to your god
   if you want a country run by religion move to iran
   honk if you think i'm jesus
   the goddess is alive and magic is afoot
   it's time for anopther magical mystery tour
   isis!  isis!  ra!  ra!  ra!
   religious freedom means any religion
   stop global warming
   you nonconformists are all alike
   eschew obfuscation
   "failure is impossible"
   i haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister!
   lottery: a tax on people who can't do math
   oh, no!  not another learning experience!
   i can feel your pain (whatever)
   the truth is out there (but i'm stuck here)
   are we there yet?
   i saw elvis making crop circles
   i love my country but fear my government
   happy childhoods last a lifetime- prevent child abuse
   (one with no words, just a big band-aid for the boo boos on your car.)
   start seeing bicycles
   join the army; travel to exotic, distant lands; meet exciting, unusual
people
              and kill them
   give peace a chance
   viualize world peace
   you cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war
   it will be a great day when our schools get all the money they need and the
                 air force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber
   commit random acts of kindness and senseless beauty
   those who abandon their dreams will discourage yours
   last time we mixed politics and religion... people got burned at the stake
   sorry i missed church, i've been busy practicing witchcraft and becoming a
   lesbian
   who owns you?
   overpopulation too much of a good thing
   visualize using your turn signals
   ufo's are real (the air force doesn't exist)
   question reality
   more jobs?  what about less people?
   not all who wander are lost
   i'm prolifejacket and i boat
   support your local extra-terrestrial
   creative people must be stopped
   where are we going?  and why am i in this handbasket?
   just say no to one word solutions
   i do whatever the little voices tell me to do
   the artless are in charge of funding the arts
   i can't go to work today - the voices said "stay home and clean the guns"
   actions speak louder than bumperstickers
   free tibet
   visualize whirled peas
   if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will shoot their kids accidentally
   what wisdom can you find that is greater than kindness?
   pro-veteran / anti-war
   peace be with you

okay... these are smaller bike size stickers:

   mend your feulish ways
   go by bike
   bla bla bla bla whatever
   hate your job?  quit!
   will kill for food
   skateboarding permitted
   (rainbow flag)

   okay, everything above this point is the same price.  all of the prices
   include shipping unless you're overseas.  if that's the case please let me
   know and we'll figure something out.

   1 sticker - $1.50
   2 stickers - $2.70
   3 stickers - $3.60
   4 stickers - $4.20
   5 sickers - $4.75
   6 stickers - $5.00

   to order, say, nine stickers, just add the price for 6 to the price for 3.
   hence, 9 stickers would be $8.60.  the following do not fit in to the above
   pricing chart:

these are clear, non-adhesive window stickers ("static cling" stickers):

   red ribbon
   rainbow triangle
   pink triangle
   black triangle
   peace sign
   women's symbol
   rainbow flag

these are plain black-on-clear static cling window stickers:

   clergy (with symbol)
   yin yang
   celtic knot
   woven star
   oom
   peace

also, you can get a 26-inch long 1/2 inch thick rainbow sticker that is
almost
as wide as your car.

all of the items described above go by the following price scale:

   1 sticker - $2.00
   2 stickers - $3.00
   3 stickers - $4.00

i think that's all. happy ordering, and send your questions here. =) my
fingers are tired! thanks, sarah >>

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date: wed, 9 sep 1998 14:06:32 edt
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hi all...i have received a request for a donation from this
organization...does anyone know about it...please let me know.

jude :)

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marilyn mcallister wrote:
still, with every victory, there is always someone trying
hard to turn back the clock.  let this be our message to
you.  we will not go back.  our ideals are stronger than
your injustice. amy and emily,  you have no idea how good
it feels to know that all those years i was away defending
the rights of others, you ve been here defending mine.

marilyn mcallister

lieutenant colonel

u.s. army
wow!!!!!!!

i am sitting here bawling.  maybe i am being to overly
emotional, but in all the scuttlebutt about this tour and
where the mics were and jean i forgot just how powerful it
was.  (no offense to the posters of messages about this)  i
was so in awe of the whole performance, and it is just a
reminder of the power of music.  i think that was such a
great essay.  it makes me want to get out and fight.  it
renews the fire of my spirit.

karen, who felt the same way after gi jane, incidentally.
8-)

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date: wed, 9 sep 1998 15:59:35 edt
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i really don't understand this whole arguement. what's wrong with the girl
marketing things? just because they're activists they aren't allowed to
advertise and get people to listen anymore? i mean, what i'm saying is, they
aren't ours to do what we like with. if they want to give a wider range of
people the opportunity to hear their message, more power to them. i don't see
the problem.

peace.eri

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just got the accoustic cafe tape.

i already know "gone again" by heart. never learned a song that fast in my
*life*. wonderful stuff.

thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!!

doyle srader
director of forensics
arizona state university
(602) 965-5578

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wooooo hoooooooooo!

my jane siberry cd arrived today!!!!!! i can't wait to pop it in the cd
player!!!

love,
karen :-)

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alrighty, then...i come home last night, groceries in hand, open up my
mailbox, find a letter, ads, and the latest edition of rolling stone,
which--for the third time in recent memory--features a scantily clad
woman on the cover (this weeks object d'jour is janet jackson).  which
has, i'm not sure what, to do with music.  i was already tired of the
magazine's increasing emphasis on "shock rock" over genuine talent
(whatever the merits of marilyn manson, the guy is not important enough
in the history of music, let alone in the contemporary music scene, to
merit anything to the page or two he cops in virtually every issue), its
tired rants against "the war on drugs", and the general lack of quality
articles.  this takes it to another level.  i simply cannot accept a
publication that will put out a "women in rock" issue, and rah-rah all
of the advances women have made in music, then go right back to the
glossy titilation that has, oh, all the class of a bad playboy.

this said, what other music publications would y'all recommend. my
interests veer toward "chick w. guitar" music, but i want to stay
informed about what's going on in a variety of genres. please e-mail me
privately w. any suggestions.

off the soapbox,
shelley

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hi y'all!

today my japanese professor gave me a cd by a woman named gerri gribi.
anyway, i haven't listened yet, but i was wondering if anyone has ever
heard of her? if so, what do you think? e-mail me privately if you know
anything.

thanks!

love,
karen :-)

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hey kind friends!

i'm finally back after a month & 1/2 with no computer or email (it was
tough).  i'm sure tons of others reported on newport folk fest but i
have to throw in my 2 cents:  the best!!!!  the x-country drive from san
francisco was totally worth it (what can i say, i was in the mood for a
road trip!)  i won't expound unnecessarily but i must say amy & emily
captured my heart & soul yet again.  love them!  another notable: keep
an eye/ear out for trina hamlin...she rocks!  her debut cd offers
hard-driving, soulfoul folk-rock.  she mostly does shows in the
northeast, but occasionally makes it out to the west coast.

okay, here's how the dmv ties into all this.  bought a new car before
departing for nff & didn't have my license plates yet.  i've been
debating whether or not to get personalized plates, wanting to have
something about "closer to fine" on them (that song is my life right
now) but not sure if i wanted to shell out the yearly fee.  anyway, got
my state-chosen plates last week and (i'm such an indigo-head!)
i spazzed:  4 clf 390 !!!  how much closer to fine could it get :)
okay, it's the little things in life...and ya gotta find 'em where you
can :)

cheers & happy days,

sheri g
pngwn@hotmail.com

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melissa writes :

<<but, for some reason i think i recall reading/hearing that
they had a "falling out"... for what reason, i have no idea.

you know,i saw that charley rose show too :)

i was thinking about what you said about ms and ar being similar.
the big difference i notice is that stipe seems to have a
pretty healthy ego...make that huge ego.
ray seems more humble in comparison.

i thought i picked up something from an interview once...was it
on 'watershed' ? where amy made a comment about rem not
calling them or returning their calls or something...i think it was
around the time 'monster' came out and rem were really riding the
rock god wave.

i got the impression that 'they' or some of them (stipe?) may have
distanced themselves from the 'little people'...i mean who needs
the old atlanta crew when you are pals with the likes of patti smith ?

now this is pure speculation on my part..and i'm not one to gossip ;)

:)claire

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date: wed, 9 sep 1998 19:16:10 -0400
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howdy all

it's me again, this is just a second reminder that i will be walking in
aids walk atlanta, which will take place sunday, october 18th...if anyone
would be interested in sponsoring me, please email me privately for more
info.

thanks

:-)
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>isn't there such a
>thing as "bad," or do you think it's all subjective?
all subjective. it's what you've been raised/conditoned/led to believe.
it's your socially-formed constructs of good vs. bad.
in some cultures, singing off-key very wildly and chanting strange
things is very socially valued and acceptable. woo hoo!

and if that ain't an acceptable explanation... well...
let's just agree to disagree with some people, melissa.   i'm sure it's
a generational thing as well. ;)  (can you hear 'em grumblin' now? "them
$@%&! rude young whippersnappers... they call that crap *music*!
sheesh.")  maybe you need youth and irreverency and a crazy streak to
appreciate some things.  ;)

jill

>>  it can be unappealing to you.
>>fine.  but, being overtly rude and saying she's scary, lacking in any
>>talent  whatsoever, etc. is very immature and disrespectful.
>
>"scary" just has no place in a music review, but why why why can't one
hold
>the opinion that someone is lacking talent?!  it's absurd call people
>immature for disagreeing with your opinion of an artist.  i would never
try
>to change anyone's mind about smith, but i *will* reserve the right to
>express *my* opinion about her without being called immature and
>disrespectful.
>
>it's not as though i think everyone i don't like has no talent.  to the
>contrary, jean smith is the first i can recall ever leaving me with
such an
>impression.  there are many links on my music index to artists that i
>appreciate and think my visitors would expect to see there, even though
i
>don't like them that much myself for whatever reason (i.e., tori amos),
and
>i've always appreciated the diversity of amy and emily's tastes (i
don't
>like rage against the machine, but i think they're talented and it's
cool
>that ig are fans).
>
>that's my last comment on the issue... i'll let those who would stifle
my
>opinion in favor of their own have the last word.
>
>--
>deb, who appreciated everyone else on the sst, and everyone at newport,
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>everyone at lilith...
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just thought ya'll might like to know the ig are in yet another lilith
section in a teenybopper magazine. this time it's 17 magazine. the new
one (probably not on the newstands yet since we just got it today) with
kerri russel? i think on the cover..a chick with curly brownish hair who
has a sitcom this fall.
there's a small pic of the ig..actually i think it's smaller than every
other pic. how rude..

anyhow! at least they're there right?

*hugs*

lamia

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but that's just a point of view,
and you know how quickly that could change, too..."
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>...or do you think it's all subjective? could i write
>anything and call it good poetry ("you just don't get it")?

can't recall which guy it was, but one historical psychological theorist
held fast to the belief that there is *no* fixed reality. that
everyone's "reality" is always perceived within their own terms, views,
and construct systems. so what you perceive as being objectively patent
and real may not be what another sees as definite and fixed and real.
you might consider your poetry good; someone else might use it as
kindling. so, yes, it *is* all subjective.

if further clarification is necessary, lemme move and unpack my psych
notes and i'll elaborate.

jill

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>...sparkie is coming forward to submit unto jill (!)
>....also references available.....

gotta fend 'em off with a pitchfork!

y'all should try this list matchmaking service ;)

okay sorry for being pointless and nigc and all

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hey yall
ok so i have gotten some very cool feedback about this, and i htink its a very
cool discussion kinda. whatever. deb also poitned out that they are very
grounded and always willing to give back to the community etc.   someone else
said they think its deserved becaue they are good.  you dont need to convince
me of that.  i did not mean that they dont give back more than could ever be
asked of them, or that they are selling out.  i just found it a little odd
that all this publicity (which i have seen a bunch of in the dc/philly area
and providence) came at a time without a new album, and what might be a
touring hiatus for a new album.  but of course i realize that they are
mainstream artists and they are on a major record label and they sell
thousands of records so it is someones job to publicize them.   so i do not
think it is a bad thing, juts struck me as weird...alrighty ???

peace
sasha

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but please explain to me the political significance of the sst...???

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okay, here's the deal. the ac tape so brightened my day, that like a junkie,
i'm hankering for another fix.

i'm a relative newcomer to ig fandom (third year), and an >utter< newcomer to
the world of bootlegs, so all i've got are blank tapes. if anyone can think of
a good deed they'd like me to do, i'd be at bat for it. and if you've got a
bootleg that you love so much that spreading it is a labor of love, you could
rack up my undying gratitude by letting me in on the goodies.

doyle srader
director of forensics
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(602) 965-5578

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sheryl,
i got you ac tape and i love it ! thanks a mill... i thought i
would be sending your boot today but i realized a 90min tape
isn't going to do it. i hope to send it soon,
jeri

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hey folks,

this was bounced to me for approval - i have edited
it to take out some repeated text.

just a note to outlook users: please make sure that
when you're mailing the list, you're sending your
messages in plain text format...

thanks,
sherlyn
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subject: nigc: bar corrice
date: wed, 9 sep 1998 22:01:09 -0400

hi, y'all! sorry to bother y'all, but bar (cybermum) could you write me =
with your phone number - to my regular address (starr@netvision.net.il) =
and to ilanleon@aol.com (my friend, where i'm staying) just in case.....

thanks!!!!

see you all in a week, when i get home.
hi from new york,
michal

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ok after listening to the song "acid" on the lilith sampler i got from
lilith fair like a zillion times i wanna know..is anyone on this list an
emm gryner fan??
what's the word on her stuff?? any good?
facts! i want to know facts!

*hugs*

lamia

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as you may recall, i asked you all to vote on the place you would like a list
meet to occur. not counting myself, sixty-two list members did vote. i have
compiled a list directory based on the votes i received.

if any of you should find this helpful and want to reward my efforts with a ig
tape of anything, i wouldn't say no.
hope it is useful. lynn

1. hlc@portal.ca (hlc) vancouver, bc
2. fbouvi@navtech.nl (florence bouvier -best) netherlands
3. scorpio7@sagami.or.jp (susan & scott) tokyo, japan

4. gi troop decatur, al
5. abbett  birmingham, al
6. ktyldy@cswnet.com searcy, ak
7. srader@imap3.asu.edu (doyle srader) phoenix, az
8. arle@hotmail.com (diane wong) loma linda, ca
9. emark@scf-fs.usc.edu (emily d. mark) la, ca
10. jenindgo  san mateo, ca
11. lancon@shell.accesscom.com (lancon)san jose, ca
12. luna-tick@home.com (luna mook tick) san diego, ca
13. lynz@pacbell.net (lynz floren palo alto, ca
14. ufgtrfan  alta loma, ca
15. worldfalls@earthlink.net (java solis) la, ca
16. vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu (garian arleta vigil) boulder, co
17. alhastings@mindspring.com (allison hastings) decatur, ga
18. jah13@arches.uga.edu (jeri humphries) athens, ga
19. usul@mindspring.com (ron mcbay) atlanta, ga
20. aswenson@students.uiuc.edu(amy m. swenson) champaign,il
21. strange_fire66@hotmail.com (shelley miller) chicago, il
22. tanya.x@mailexcite.com (tanya) chicago, il
23. emistar919 south bend, in
24. kristenp@fnr.purdue.edu (page, kristen) west lafayette, in
25. sharoane@ime.net (sharon parker) farmington, maine
26. noexit00 baltimore, md
27. rgcs1123 framingham. ma
28. kshucks@juno.com (j. k.) cambridge (boston), massachusetts
29. bluewhale@mailexcite.com (msivilay) rochester, mn
30. jules@mr.net (julie dougherty)international falls, mn (the top)
31. rungek  stillwater (outside of st. paul), minnesota
32. antigone40 biloxi, mississippi
33. saliers_ray@hotmail.com (lamia difranco) vicksburg, ms
34. heidid4660  portsmouth nh
35. rhythm19 harrison, nj
36. fairbk@sage.edu (kelly fairbairn) albany, ny
37. nyka95 buffalo. ny
38. obladi7823 ny, ny
39. swansold@syr.lmco.com (lori swanson) syracuse, ny
40. ecarson@warren-wilson.edu (emily) asheville, nc
41. buddy45687 cleveland, oh
42. chance0631  kent, oh
43. jillyc@hotmail.com (swamp ophelia) cleveland, oh
44. kayindigo cincinnati, oh
45. ndigogrls  kent, oh
46. lriney@saintfrancis.com (riney, lora lei l.) tulsa, ok
47. jsmith6111 portland, oregon
48. kemejets berwyn, pa (45 min from philly)
49. tisara@www.webworqs.com bloomsburg, pa
50. apthree  dallas, tx
51.adia1001@juno.com (julie fiore)
52. tcheehill  beaumont, texas
53. mnoelm dallas, tx
54. erin sue c  burlington, vt
55. kiddo@together.net (diane g.) bristol, vt
56. chkngrrl@geocities.com (anna creech) harrisonburg, va
57. kmj5m@virginia.edu (karen jones) charlottesville, va
58. telane@trigon.com (tara lane) richmond, va
59. tracyboone fredericksburg, va
60. ravnswng@earthlink.net washington d.c. area
61. galileolin  seattle, wa
62. igfan@mailexcite.com (chelsea love) morgantown, wv
63. sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu (sheryl jones)madison, wi

if you have been left off this list, i suggest you e-mail the entire list
advising us to add your name.

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add my name to the list please. i'm in athens ga

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wooooooo hooooooo!
imma goin' to athens ga to build me a house!!!!

luv, bar

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add me to the list please.

jessluvsu2@aol.com (jessie lycholat) baltimore, md

thanks.

jessie
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ummm...my mom lives in chicago...i am still a resident there
i go to school in springfield (yuck), ohio
i am moving to berkeley, california
i'll most likely be in kansai, japan next fall

there...is that confusing enough? ;-)

love,
karen :-)

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hmmmm, i go to school in arcata, ca (waaayyy up north in humboldt
county), but i'm from lawrence, ks. could you please add me somewhere
to this directory? i don't care at which.

---kelly

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hang on a sec, there, folkie folks. please tell me somebody's keeping
track of these late submissions... as well as the list lynn compiled.

could someone take over the task so that everyone doesn't have to detail
their personal information over the internet (where, incidentally,
anyone can have access to it... and you *don't* know who's out
there...)?

let us know.

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msinghaus@msmisp.com - newark, ohio

atlanta, ga for a list meet sounds good. missy

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looks like i fckd up again sending the list to the list or so i'm told.
sorry.
i quit, i'm not tracking anything anymore.  voting is closed!!!!!!!!!!
results:
48 atlanta
1  st. louis, mo
1 burlington, vt
1 chicago, il
2 san fran., ca
1 berkeley, ca
1 decatur, ga
1 seattle, wa
2 dallas, tx
1 anywhere in ca
1  anywhere
1 cincinnati, oh
1  ?
1 philadelphia, pa
note:  approx. 10% of those voting for atlanta said atlanta or decatur
bye    bye   bye   bye   bye   bye   bye

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ok
if you want your name on the list
don't send it to the whole list cuz jilly reminded dumb me..*giggles*
that they're archived and anyone on the net can see them. so...send
your name and city/state to me k ya'll?

*hugs*

lamia

"i got enough indigo to wash away my heart..."
--emm gryner

"you just dropped your bomb like blood on tuesday night.
like everyone else you found a pretty face,
and you're all set for life..."
--emm gryner, acid

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<< someone please let me know when they make their way to the nothern
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area....anywhere between the s.f. bay area to the oregon border. >>
i hear ya girl!!! i'm gonna follow em this year, so anyone else on the left
coast that cares to join me, come on!!! i have a toyota 4x4 w/ a camper
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let's go.

i'm all over that...seeing them in the bay area five times this year wasn't
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<< someone please let me know when they make their way to the nothern
california
area....anywhere between the s.f. bay area to the oregon border. >>
i hear ya girl!!! i'm gonna follow em this year, so anyone else on the left
coast that cares to join me, come on!!! i have a toyota 4x4 w/ a camper
shell, an awesome stereo system in it and 4 weeks vacation starting may 31st.
let's go.

i'm all over that...seeing them in the bay area five times this year wasn't
nearly enough!

alison
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howdy all!

hope everyone's holiday weekend was safe and great!

        we received many good ideas and suggestions for the t-shirts, but there
were also mentions of making laminated badges' or buttons.  is there any
reason why we couldn't offer all?  anyone out there into, or know anyone
who is into, making buttons or laminated badges :o)  ?

amy s. has kindly offered to help and possibly get the shirts at a very
reasonable price! thank you amy s!

we have several suggestions so far:

1.)     'intimate' on front and 'strangers' on the back
2.)     'intimate strangers' big on the back, and in small letters on the
front (in the   pocket area)
3.)     intimate strangers 2 (with the 2 being placed in the 'squared'
position)
4.)     'is' in 2" lower case letters, and indigo-girls@netspace.org. below
it.  on the     back, have people submit logos or drawings, that include
the phrase 'intimate            strangers" and "indigo girls" (i think "indigo
girls" would be a copyright             infringement, i'll have to check)
5.)     'a + e = ig' with 'intimate strangers' beneath
6.)     'a + e = ig' with 'ig + fans = is'
7.)     "intimate strangers" in a stylized type (so the letters fit into
each other              -hard to explain), surrounded by a sun, and abstract tree
and a moon, with the
        list address curved around the side.

        we need some ideas on colors...indigo being an obvious one.  but we
also need to keep the price down too (for everyone's benefit).  :o)
        also, if anyone has anymore ideas, please post them very soon (by
friday evening), as we need to get on to the next phase of this.  (sorry
about the vacation interruption folks)

if the interested listees would like to have the option of buttons or
laminated badges, please let your voice be heard. and if you have
design ideas, please voice those as well :o)

        okay, i guess from here, we just decide which of the offered
suggestions we're going to go with.  pick a number, any number!
        respond to  jules@mr.net

the voting on this will be open until sept. 16th, 6:00 pm cst.

peace and love,
jules

        p.s.  i just want to say a hearty thank you to all that have
participated in this endeavor.  your words of wisdom, support and
kindness have been greatly appreciated!  keep those great ideas coming!

~~~~~
"let no one imagine that in owning a recording he has music. the very
practice of music is a celebration that we own nothing." -john cage
1961

i think badges would be great - any commercial radio station has a machine to make 'em - we should see if there are any radio station employees on the list that could handle it.

a suggestion, how about printing the phrase "multiply life by the power of two!" (the two being amy and emily), and then below it, it could say:

a + e = ig (2 superscript)

then below that, ig + fans = intimate strangers

it's a whole math thing. :) oooh - oooh - or you could put underneath of it, "just stick the right formula in, a solution for every fool!"

just some ideas.

tara lane
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in clover
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to add to that list, kporcaro@vt.edu , blacksburg , va....kim
porcaro....but i wouldnt advise anyone to come here....columbus ohio
sounds good to me....nice town...only been once...

ok....sorry bout that...i replied before reading the rest of that
mail...

another one...llriney@saintfrancis.com, sparkie in tulsa ok. for awhile
longer then to phoenix......

i am a student here at uf, and there was an article about the tour in
yesterdays paper.  i was talking to one of the deans here, and there
is a chance that the tour stopping here might be cancelled.  here's
why : the article in the paper stated that the tour was about
promoting the legalization of marijuana as the main focus.  the
article mentioned that as the only topic of discussion, and listed
many people who would be here to get signatures, speak,etc.  amung
those in htis list was, of course, amy ray.
i was under the impression, and please correct me, that they were
talking about a variety of topics, and amy was to discuss the
zapistas here.  anyway, the problem is really that the university was
bringing the tour here as a cultural diversity program free and open
to students and the public.  uf is strongly considering cancelling
the program if this is the true focus(right now they are havin g
contract negotiations).  if anyone has any info on this, or if this
was the focus of the tour and i was unaware......i'll also keep you
posted as to the status of the tour coming.

megan
"all you pretty pretenders, negligent vendors, aren't you precious inside
i have no need for anger with intimate strangers
and i got nothing to hide" amy ray, reunion

hey all,
just a quick note to let you know that 99x radio in atlanta will be
broadcasting shawn and his band's "live x" concert on this friday the 11th
at 1pm est.  it was taped about a month ago at a very sold out eddie's
attic and it was just a great couple of shows.  (and yes, for all you
ex-lift fans julie and david are the bass/b'round vocals and electric
guitar players you will hear)  you can access 99x live via the internet at
www.com/99x/  i believe.  as far as i know this info is all correct.  i
have no idea how long the show will go.
oh yeah,
and for those atlantan's coming to the 99x big day out on saturday the
12th, shawn and the gang play the second stage at 2:45p.
later
cc

hi gang...apologies in advance if this has been discussed already,
but with a new job and my classes just starting, i have been deleting digests
faster than clinton has been issuing apologies (wait... is that a good
comparison or not? i'll have to ponder that...)

anyway, today i happened to score a 12" sys vinyl. it's labeled epicdance / demo only and "indigo
girls shed your skin featuring stephen nikolas audio dependency syndrome /
special versions from the album shaming of the sun"

side one contains 2 selections:
stephen nikolas club mix and a.d.s skinless mix (110 bpm)

side two has two selections also:
stephen nikolas dub mix and a.d.s ascension mix (125 bpm)

i seem to recall someone mentioning a dance remix. is that what this is? how
different is this from the cds given out at lilith? how rare are these puppies?
any clue?

sorry, i haven't been able to listen to it (no turntable at work) so i can't
review it.

any info would be appreciated! (and feel free to reply privately)

deb
moondust@gate.net (formerly dreiser@wi.net)

i like all the ideas.. but (just my own opinion!) i kinda think we should keep
it more along the simple lines with like just intimate strangers or so...
excluding all the a + e and ig + fans= and is to the 2nd power and all that..
i dunno, just kinda seems a little complicated :) i guess i just go for
simplicity sometimes... but my vote, to keep it at intimate strangers... with
maybe a small design on the front or back.. on a while tshirt, with the colors
being indigo and hmmm red maybe?

whatever.  i am just a happy girl cuz i just found my first ever ig songbook
in a local guitar shop waahoo!  got n.i.s for 16 dollars.. is that a good
price?  ooh, got some nice pictures and song analysis's too!

good day,
~troop

not to long ago someone on this list mentioned the mtv awards and that the ig
might be there. here is a list of the nominees....unfortunately, no ig or
melissa etheridge! :-( there's not mention of the presenters though. but
i still doubt they will be there.
------------------------------

1998 mtv video music awards nominees announced
mtv online

the 1998 mtv video music awards hit the airwaves tonight at 8:00 pm est.
here's a look at all the nominees:

video of the year
brandy & monica, "the boy is mine" (director joseph kahn) madonna, "ray of
light" (director jonas akerlund) puff daddy & the family featuring the lox,
lil' kim, & notorious b.i.g. & fuzzbubble, "it's all about the benjamins (rock
remix)" (director spike jonze) the verve, "bitter sweet symphony" (director
walter stern) will smith, "getting' jiggy wit it" (director hype williams)

best male video
david bowie featuring trent reznor, "i'm afraid of americans" (directors dom &
nic) busta rhymes, "put your hands where my eyes could see" (director hype
williams) eric clapton, "my father's eyes" (director kevin godley) brian
mcknight, "anytime" (director darren grant) will smith, "just the two of us"
(director bob giraldi)

best female video
fiona apple, "criminal" (director mark romanek) mariah carey featuring puff
daddy & the family, "honey (remix)" (directors daniel pearl & mariah carey)
natalie imbruglia, "torn" (director alison mclean) madonna, "ray of light"
(director jonas akerlund) shania twain, "still the one" (director david hogan)

best group video
backstreet boys, "everybody (backstreet's back)" (director joseph kahn)
garbage, "push it" (director andrea giacobbe) matchbox 20, "3 a.m." (director
gavin bowden) radiohead, "karma police" (director jonathan glazer) the verve,
"bitter sweet symphony" (director walter stern)

best rap video
busta rhymes, "put your hands where my eyes could see" (director hype
williams) master p featuring silkk, fiend, mia-x, & mystikal, "make em say
uhh!" (director michael martin) the notorious b.i.g. featuring mase & puff
daddy, "mo money, mo problems" (director hype williams) pras featuring ol'
dirty bastard & mya, "ghetto superstar" (director francis lawrence) will
smith, "getting' jiggy wit it" (director hype williams)

best dance video
backstreet boys, "everybody (backstreet's back)" (director joseph kahn) janet
jackson, "together again" (director seb janiak) madonna, "ray of light"
(director jonas akerlund) prodigy, "smack my bitch up" (director jonas
akerlund) will smith, "getting' jiggy wit it" (director hype williams)

best rock video
aerosmith, "pink" (director doug nichol) foo fighters, "everlong" (director
michel gondry) dave matthews band, "don't drink the water" (director dean
karr) metallica, "the unforgiven ii" (director matt mahurin)

best alternative music video
ben folds five, "brick" (director kevin bray) garbage, "push it" (director
andrea giacobbe) green day, "time of your life (good riddance)" (director mark
kohr) radiohead, "karma police" (director jonathan glazer) the verve, "bitter
sweet symphony" (director walter stern)

best new artist in a video
cherry poppin' daddies, "zoot suit riot" (director gregory dark) chumbawamba,
"tubthumping" (director ben unwin) fastball, "the way" (director mcg) natalie
imbruglia, "torn" (director alison mclean) mase, "feel so good" (director hype
williams)

best video from a film
aerosmith, "i don't want to miss a thing" (director francis lawrence) beck,
"deadweight (a life less ordinary)" (director michel gondry) celine dion, "my
heart will go on (love theme from titanic)" (director bille woodruff) goo goo
dolls, "iris" (director nancy bardawil) pras featuring ol' dirty bastard &
mya, "ghetto superstar" (director francis lawrence) puff daddy & jimmy page,
"come with me" (director howard greenhalgh)

best r&b video
brandy & monica, "the boy is mine" (director joseph kahn) wyclef jean
featuring the refugee allstars, "gone 'til november" (director francis
lawrence) k-ci & jojo, "all my life" (director lara m. schwartz) usher, "you
make me wanna" (director bille woodruff)

best direction in a video
garbage, "push it" (director andrea giacobbe) madonna, "ray of light"
(director jonas akerlund) prodigy, "smack my bitch up" (director jonas
akerlund) radiohead, "karma police" (director jonathan glazer) wyclef jean
featuring refugee allstars, "we trying to stay alive" (director roman coppola)

best choreography in a video
busta rhymes, "put your hands where my eyes could see" (director hype
williams) wyclef jean featuring the refugee allstars, "gone 'til november"
(director francis lawrence) madonna, "ray of light" (director jonas akerlund)
will smith, "getting' jiggy wit it" (director hype williams)

best special effects in a video
aerosmith, "pink" (director doug nichol) apehx twin, "come to daddy" (director
chris cunningham) foo fighters, "everlong" (director michel gondry) garbage,
"push it" (director andrea giacobbe) madonna, "frozen" (director chris
cunningham)

best art direction in a video
bjork, "bachelorette" (director michel gondry) death in vegas, "dirt"
(director andrea giacobbe) foo fighters, "everlong" (director michel gondry)
garbage, "push it" (director andrea giacobbe)

best editing in a video
aerosmith, "i don't want to miss a thing" (director francis lawrence) garbage,
"push it" (director andrea giacobbe) madonna, "ray of light" (director jonas
akerlund) prodigy, "smack my bitch up" (director jonas akerlund)

best cinematography in a video
fiona apple, "criminal" (director mark romanek) garbage, "push it" (director
andrea giacobbe) madonna, "ray of light" (director jonas akerlund) dave
matthews band, "don't drink the water" (director dean karr) radiohead, "karma
police" (director jonathan glazer)

breakthrough video
busta rhymes, "put your hands where my eyes could see" (director hype
williams) garbage, "push it" (director andrea giacobbe) sean lennon, "home"
(director spike jonze) madonna, "ray of light" (director jonas akerlund)
prodigy, "smack my bitch up" (director jonas akerlund) roni size/reprazent,
"brown paper bag" (director nick gordon)

viewers choice
celine dion, "my heart will go on (love theme from titanic)" (director bille
woodruff) green day, "time of your life (good riddance)" (director mark kohr)
matchbox 20, "3 a.m." (director gavin bowden) puff daddy & the family
featuring the lox, lil' kim, & notorious b.i.g. & fuzzbubble, "it's all about
the benjamins (rock remix)" (director spike jonze) will smith, "getting' jiggy
wit it" (director hype williams)

in a message dated 98-09-10 13:45:31 edt, gitroop@aol.com writes:

<< i kinda think we should keep
it more along the simple lines with like just intimate strangers or so...
excluding all the a + e and ig + fans= and is to the 2nd power and all that..
i dunno, just kinda seems a little complicated >>

also the more words/letters the more it will cost. i think whatever the idea
it should be kept fairly simple.

lynn :-) <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">tahmehawk's
place</a>

hey, i'm not sure which date the 5th or the 6th, but in the middle of
chickenman they go into this other song and i'm trying to remember for
the life of me who sings it and what it's called - fleetwodd mac maybe?
it's the "time makes you
bolder (?) even children get older, i'm getting older too,
yes i'm getting older too..." if anyone can can help
it would rock, this has been bugging me for 2 weeks i heard
the song on the radio one night and remembered that i love it. :-)
thank,
slavi

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on thu, 10 sep 1998, <erin tripp> wrote:

> i like all the ideas.. but (just my own opinion!) i kinda think we should keep
> it more along the simple lines with like just intimate strangers or so...
> excluding all the a + e and ig + fans= and is to the 2nd power and all that..
> i dunno, just kinda seems a little complicated :)

i definitely agree..we should go with the "least complicated" one, so to
speak...i like just "intimate strangers" as well... :)

kim

the song you are thinking of is "landslide" . which is one of my personal
favs of stevie nicks of fleetwood mac...

howdy,

since the powers that be here at work will soon be monitoring our
internet activity, i am seriously considering buying a web-tv unit.
does anyone out there have a web-tv unit or experience with one,
especially one of the newer, faster units? i have some questions about
it, and i think i might get a more candid answer from a user than i
would from a salesperson.

peace and thanks!!!

joan :-d

"do what you can, with what you have, where you are."
--theodore roosevelt

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at 10:06 am 9/10/98 est, you wrote:
>i am a student here at uf, and there was an article about the tour in
>yesterdays paper.  i was talking to one of the deans here, and there
>is a chance that the tour stopping here might be cancelled.  here's
>why : the article in the paper stated that the tour was about
>promoting the legalization of marijuana as the main focus.  the
>article mentioned that as the only topic of discussion, and listed
>many people who would be here to get signatures, speak,etc.  amung
>those in htis list was, of course, amy ray.

i called the alligator (where the article was) this morning and asked them
where they got their information, because i figured that if the powers that
be at uf read that the whole thing was only about marijuana legalization,
the tour might be cancelled. the writer of the article was "unavailable for
comment" according to the chick with whom i spoke. i'm considering writing
an editorial for the paper explaining what the tour is all about, but i need
some information in order to do this. i haven't saved the articles posted on
the list about the show, so if someone still has them, please forward them
to me. i think it would be a shame to cancel the show due to lack of
research by the person who wrote the article. thanks y'all.

jendy

hi, could anyone on the list tell me to "unsubscribe" from the list
becasue i am on work email and this is my last day, and i know how much
mail i get everyday if i don't get off i am going to crash the system!!
i had the email that they tell you to save in case of an instance like
this, but of course i erased it like a half hour ago. much appreciated
lor

actually, the cost of t-shirts is based on the number of screens it takes
to make 'em. the silk screener will make 1 screen for each color imprinted
on each side of the shirt. so a shirt with "intimate" on the front and
"strangers" on the back will cost just the same as a shirt with "intimate
strangers" on the front and a complicated 1 color design on the back. does
that clear it up? so if we get the shirts silk-screened, there really
isn't a huge cost associated with the number of words or anything - it's
much different than the t-shirt makers in shopping malls and stuff - and
it will be much much cheaper over all.

also laminated badges can be easily made at any kinko's - they have color
copiers and laminators. :) just my 2 cents. email me with any other
questions!

--amy

hey y'all--
sorry for the nigc, but i thought some of you may have some good ideas on
this....i am a senior in highschool and at my school, during spring break,
most of the seniors go to panama, fl, or something.....i am trying to organize
a thing where us seniors could spend that week doing community service
(habitat for humanity etc.) instead...does anyone know of any ideas/people i
could contact?
thanks!
lauren

tori amos does an outstanding cover of this song...i love it when my
favourite artists have things in common.. :)
*hugs*

lamia
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the song you are thinking of is "landslide" . which is one of my
personal
favs of stevie nicks of fleetwood mac...

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ok..is there anyone i owe boots to? (besides who i'm sending the 3 tori
tapes too and the video..ya'lls are going out tomorrow) i'm so
disorganized right now cuz hotmail keeps f***in me over. so if there's
anyone besides those 2 who i owe boots to that is sitting there
going...um...should i email her? just do cuz if you remind me i'll get
'em in the mail..!! :)
this doesn't go for everyone who i'm doing the ani/ig tape for unless
we're trading for it..if you sent me blanks then i have 'em and am
geting them ready to go!

*hugs*

lamia

"i got enough indigo to wash away my heart..."
--emm gryner

"you just dropped your bomb like blood on tuesday night.
like everyone else you found a pretty face,
and you're all set for life..."
--emm gryner, acid

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hey sorry for the nigc....

but folks who read sip....see the new issue, number
17?  see the letter section.... see amanda shopa's
letter?  :)  that's me.  yay!  i love terry, he
rocks!  christine's gonna kill me though when she
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> <<how sweet!!>>
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> <<how sweet!!>>
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> <<"the starfish"
> __=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=
=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8
>_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=
=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8
> once upon a time there was a wise man
>
>_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=
=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__
>=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_
> who used to go to the ocean to do his writing.
>
>=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=
=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,
>.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8
> he had a habit of walking on the beach
>
>.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=
=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7
>=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-
> before he began his work.
>
>=b7=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=
=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8
>=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4
> ^v^ ^v^ ^v^
>
>=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7=
-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'
>=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8
> one day he was walking along the shore.
>
>=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=
=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8',=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,
>=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.
> as he looked down the beach,
> =b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-=
.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,
>_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=
=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8
> he saw a human figure moving like a dancer.
>
>_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=
=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__
>=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_
> he smiled to himself to think of someone
>
>,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=
=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.
>-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,
> who would dance to the day.
>
>=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=
=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af
>=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8
> so he began to walk faster to catch up.
>
>=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7=
-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'
>=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8
> ^v^ ^v^ ^v^
>
>=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=
=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-
>.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7
> as he got closer, he saw that it was a young man
>
>,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=
=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8
>__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,
> and the young man wasn't dancing,
>
>__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.=
-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__
>=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_
> but instead he was reaching down to the shore,
>
>_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=
=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8
>,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__
> picking up something and very gently
>
>,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=
=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.
>-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,
> throwing it into the ocean.
>
>=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=
=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4
>=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7
> ^v^ ^v^ ^v^
>
>=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=
=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af
>=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8
> as he got closer he called out,
>
>=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7=
-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'
>=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8
> "good morning! what are you doing?"
>
>=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=
=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.
>,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7
> ^v^ ^v^ ^v^
>
>,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=
=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8
>__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,
> the young man paused, looked up and replied,
>
>__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.=
-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__
>=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_
> "throwing starfish in the ocean."
>
>=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=
=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.
>-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8
> ^v^ ^v^ ^v^
>
>=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=
=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.
>,=b8__
>=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af
> "i guess i should have asked,
>
>.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=
=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7
>=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-
> why are you throwing starfish in the ocean?"
>
>=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=
=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af
>=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4
> ^v^ ^v^ ^v^
>
>'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=
=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7
>-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'
> "the sun is up, and the tide is going out.
>
>-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_=
_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8
>__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.
> and if i don't throw them in they'll die."
> =b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-=
.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,
>__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.=
-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,
> ^v^ ^v^ ^v^
>
>_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=
=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__
>=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_
> "but, young man, don't you realize
>
>_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=
=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8
>,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_
> that there are miles and miles of beach,
>
>.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=
=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7
>=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-
> and starfish all along it.
>
>=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=
=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af
>=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4
> you can't possibly make a difference!"
>
>=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=
=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8
>'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af
> ^v^ ^v^ ^v^
>
>'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=
=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7
>-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'
> the young man listened politely.
>
>-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_=
_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,
>=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.
> then bent down, picked another starfish
>
>=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=
=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_
>_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8
> and threw it into the sea,
> _=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=
=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8
>_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=
=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8
>
> past the breaking waves and said,
>
>_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=
=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8_=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,
>.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__.
> "it made a difference for that one!"
>
>=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=
=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8
>=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4
>
>=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=
=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8
>'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af
>
>'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=
=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7
>-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'=b7-.,=b8__=b8,.-=b7=b4=a8=af=a8'>>
> >>
>

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i've only heard "acid" off the lilith cd, but i *love* it! i've never heard
anythig else, so i can't help you there. sorry! :-) just had to throw in my
change.

peace.eri

hey all,

please add me to the list!

thanks

brian belbis
bbelbis@aol.com
palos hills, il

i agree. the starfish story is a good one.

i heard a funny version (if a bit warped) this summer. it goes the same
(expcept the old man is a business man off for a stroll from an important
executive-type meeting) right up until the end, when the business man asks
what difference can it possibly make. the young man picks up another
starfish, looks at it closely, and then stuffs it into the businessman's
face, yelling "who"s asking the questions now??????"

cheers
--robin

i have made t-shirts of some of my shows.  light colored sirts are about $5-6
a piece for a front and back design.  a dark colored shirt, ie indigo, would
run about $7-8 a picece for a front and back one color (same color front and
back) design.  that extra cost is for flashing, which is a process so you
can't see the color of the shirt through the writing.  also the cost depends
on the quatity of shirt y'all want.  i belive beefy-tee's run more.  but i
would have to ask my printer about cost.  but the tee-shirt iead is quite
yeah!!  i really like the id thingys too.  yeah.  look at the smile across my
face!

hugs and hershey kisses~
luna

ps- hi turtle!!

hey.  the other day my buddy sent me a link to an emm gryner site.  i have yet
to check it out, but i thought that you might be interested.  the addy is
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/blackflag/54/gryner.html.  that's bout it!
=)

---lindy =)

"it's alright if you hate that way, hate me cuz i'm different, hate me cuz i'm
gay..." ---emily saliers---
(got it right this time bron!)

hey yall
i have 6 us branches and a european branch for this tape, but i still need
at least another 3 branches, ideally about 6-8. so if you are interested in
being a branch please let me know so we can get this rolling. otherwise i
will just assume there isnt that much interest in this boot so there
shouldnt be an overflow problem.

peace
sasha

ok, i may be setting myself up here, but i know that there were a few people
out there clambering for a copy of this.  well, i'm just here to say that i
have a pretty good copy.  let me rephrase that, i have a great copy that's a
little on the quiet side.  :)  there's not a lot of crowd noise and you can
hear almost all of the banter in between songs.

so, if you want a copy of this e-mail me privately and i'll see if we need
to do a tree or if i can handle the demand myself.

lisa

lisa nordeen
"ran as hard as i could, still ended up here."
-emily saliers

anyone seen that commercial for mtv with ani, sarah, and all them other cooley
peeps? they're asking about music, and ani goes, "arethra, period" while
moving her hands like having her right hand shaped like a 'c' and moving it
left-to-right and then punctuating it with a quick move forward with her hand
when she say "period". orry for that long-winded thingy, just had ta say it.
:-)

peace.eri

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>barry,
>
>do you have any idea if there are excerpts of your remix anywhere on
the
>net?
>
>monique
check out some samples here
http://www.mindspring.com/~aura/ads.html

-barry

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<crawling out from under a little rock> hi! i'm just a little lurker on the
list, and this is the first time i've ever posted.. but sense everyone else
seems to like the song 'acid' but has not heard anything else about emm gryner
i thought id de-lurk for a little bit and tell y'all that she is really really
good! i fell in love with 'acid' on the lilith fair cd and i got the emm
gryner cd 'public' last week - and its a very good cd (at least in my indigo
girls-michelle malone-sarah mc-ani dee-tori-etc.. loving opinion =)) all the
songs on the cd are simply delicious <smile> and id highly recommend it!
take care,
tara

   -"it is only with the heart that one can see rightly.
     what is essential is invisible to the eye." --
     'the little pricne' by:antoine de saint-exup�ry

the song was "landslide"
it's a fleetwood mac/stevie nicks song
that is one i'd loooove to hear ig cover in full...

love,
karen :-)

howdy,

i asked before, but didn't get any replies...  and i'm feeling a little
desperate...  please say that _someone_ taped that show!  i'll trade for
it, send a blank tape, anything...  and i'll love you forever!  please
write to me personally -- i'm on the news-only list.  thanks a million!

deb alexander
alexand6@jeflin.tju.edu

hey folks,

just a real quick one:

1) i'm not really going to be available over the next
few days because i'm moving house and we don't know
when the phone will be connected. i'll check in as
often as i can, but if you're needing help i might
not be able to get back to you as quickly as usual,
that's all...

2) please don't send attachments to the list.

3) please don't send huge forward-y things to the
list.

that's it... sorry i've been a bit absent lately but
this week has been insane...

happy happy all -
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= a+e=ig
sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au                  [sydney, australia]
        "well i've taken to talking to myself,
         and i don't even get it..."    - patty larkin

*g* for all those of you who, like me, think patrice pike is
fiiiiiiiiiiiine! and right up there with jilly *l* then you have got to
check out this page i just found:
http://www.flex.net/~thrak/7thplane/photos/jun22/jun22.html

which is pics of patrice singing in this teensy lil cheerleader
uniform..wow...*feeling lightheaded*
they really shouldn't have pics of her in that outfit stradling the
bongos..i swear...i'm over here going: "oh my god patrice is so hot!"
and my girlfriend is about ready to strangle me..*giggling* if only we
could get amy into an outfit like that...then i'd just pass out and
die..instead of just grinning like a total pervert *l*
anyhow...on the outside, a 17 year old angel; inside, a dirty old woman
*l* ok i'm shutting up..they shouldn't let me have unlimited caffiene...
anyhoo..go see the pics and i'll lay off the cafiene before i turn into
bar...

*hugs*

lamia

"why do i need you to love me?"
--tori amos
"i got enough indigo to wash away my heart..."
--emm gryner

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folks,

just another real quick one:

jules said:
> 4.)     'is' in 2" lower case letters, and indigo-girls@netspace.org. below
> it.  on the     back, have people submit logos or drawings, that include
> the phrase 'intimate            strangers" and "indigo girls" (i think "indigo
> girls" would be a copyright             infringement, i'll have to check)

yes, the name "indigo girls" is protected by copyright.
however we've gotten around this in the past by using
the list address instead...

gotta run - cheers,
sherlyn
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sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au                  [sydney, australia]
        "well i've taken to talking to myself,
         and i don't even get it..."    - patty larkin

when i saw the starfish story posted to the list, i got really excited.

see, this year, i was an oa (orientation assistant) for the incoming
freshman class.  our head oa, who is a friend of mine, has to speak at the
general assembly in front of all the new freshman, their parents, the
faculty advisors, the administration and all 50 of us oa's.  two nights
before she had to speak, she was fretting because she was so nervous.  she
finally decided to tell the starfish story, comparing the freshmen to the
starfish and the oa's and advisors to the person on the beach.  the moral
of her story was that one day the freshmen would become the people on the
beach and they'd be the ones making a difference in peoples lives.  but i
felt really good when i was listening to her (and i was quite proud of
her).  see, 2 years ago (i am a junior now), i was the person (a starfish)
who just needed a lot of help adjusting to wittenberg.  it was my faculty
advisor who was the person on the beach who saved me.  she (for those of
you who know me) is my japanese professor and my major advisor, the one
who helps me combat homophobia and sexism on this campus...my mentor.  but
now that i am adjusted and happy here, it made me feel good to hear that
*i* could be someone who helps my new students get adjusted here and
helps them combat their homesicknesses, and all the other things that go
along with being a freshman in college...

anyway, so that is why i like the starfish story so much, and i just had
to share that because it was nice to see it posted to the list.

sorry for the total nigc...

love,
karen :-)

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hey...
oops, i deleted it...dumb me...especially after i was so excited about
seeing it posted...
sooooo.....can someone please forward me the starfish story? thanks!

love,
karen :-)

ps- igc---did anyone boot the 2nd chicago suffragette show? if so, please
e-mail me!

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i resubbed on digest this week after being away awhile. hello to all
the listees and friends i met on my travels.
the word 'chiapas' caught my eye as i was scanning/reading/catching up
on current events at cnn.com.
we all know that ig are devoted to helping the zapatistas in chiapas. i
thought some listees might be interested.

http://cnn.com/world/americas/9809/09/mexico.flooding.02/index.html
(and) http://www.cnn.com/world/asiapcf/9809/10/floods.01/#mexico

dozens die as floods ravage southern mexico
september 9, 1998

tuxtla gutierrez, mexico (cnn) -- floodwaters in southern mexico have
killed dozens of people, and many more remained missing wednesday
night as rescue workers tried to reach some areas that were largely
inaccessible.

hardest hit was the state of chiapas, where more than 28 people have
drowned or died in mudslides in the past six days. at least 25,000
people in more than 50 towns and villages were driven from their
homes, gov. roberto albores guillen said.

in the pacific coast state of sinaloa, workers frantically tried to
cut new escape routes for water that was threatening to overflow dams.

"we are very afraid that the death toll will increase. people are
dying, because their houses suddenly were swept up," said gilberto
de los santos, mayor of the coastal town of pijijiapan, where 18
people reportedly died.

an exact death toll was impossible to determine, because many of the
affected villages were in remote areas. but in addition to the 18
reported dead in pijijiapan and 28 victims in chiapas, at least seven
deaths in other parts of the country were being blamed on flooding.
more than 50 people were missing in chiapas alone.

southern mexico was being battered by rains from tropical storm javier,
located in the pacific, southwest of baja california, and another
tropical depression in the gulf of mexico. areas caught between the
two storms were receiving heavy rainfall.

tapachula, a city near the guatemalan border, received 18 inches of
rain over the past three days.

in huixtla, a town near tapachula, some residents huddled in their
homes, ignoring calls by police to evacuate even as the swollen
huixtla river tore away and swallowed huge pieces of riverbank and
the brick walls of homes.

officials in mexico city set up help lines and called for donations to
aid those made homeless, many of them impoverished indians.

president ernesto zedillo ordered 1,100 troops and two large jets
carrying doctors, medical equipment and specialized personnel to go
to chiapas. although rescue officials were able to reach parts of the
disaster zone wednesday, many other areas remained inaccessible.

rising waters washed away many roads and bridges. rain was falling so
hard at tapachula wednesday that helicopters and airplanes could not
fly, hindering the relief effort.

hey.. does anyone know the web addy for this..? i can't seem to find it
anymore..

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hi luna & everyone else. i just joined so i'm just letting you know i exist.
look @ me excited about all of this mail that i just got. bye now-

turtle/catie

"i gave milk to the man who killed my brother." -watershed video, galileo
why i love that quote i do not know- umm- maybe it's because i'm a
vegetarian??

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sorry everyone else, i got a new hard drive and lost all my addresses..

love karen

hey all..

in case you didn't already know, rose polenzani will be playing lively
lucy's coffeehouse at skidmore college on sunday night. i think doors
open at 8:30.

kelly

*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*
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ok - having missed out on this list for some while (the last 6 months at
least) i'm not aware of what the girls plans for touring are at all!
anyone know if there is any chance of their touring over to the uk in the
near future??????

i was also wondering if there were any uk members of the list who might
have any boot copies i might be able to get a copy?!?!

....in fact are there any other brits still out there!?!?!! (feels like
i'm shouting in a vacuum sometimes!!)

juliet.

"dark and dangerous like a secret that gets whispered in a hush
when i wake the things i dreamt about you last night make me blush"
http://www.rdg.ac.uk/pris/sed/juliet/home2.html

>from www.rollingstone.com:
>
><<the suffragette sessions
>
>irving plaza, new york, sept. 3, 1998
>
>on paper, the suffragette sessions tour was an ambitious idea from the start.
>as a sort of art-house, how-much-more-alternative-can-you-get alternative to
>the commercial monster that is lilith, suffragette was the brainchild of
>lilith veterans emily saliers and amy ray of the indigo girls. the idea was
>for a communal affair in which everyone involved -- no matter how obscure
>their name or inaccessible their music -- got equal stage time. and the
indigo
>girls, to their credit, walk a delicate line between running the show and
>pretending to be only a small part of it. but no matter how utopian the idea,
>the result is sort of like being forced to take your medicine. you know it's
>meant to be good for you, but it's not always easy to swallow.
>the entire cast, if you will, consisted of about twelve musicians from
diverse
>musical backgrounds. the indigo girls, known for their breakthrough style of
>folk & roll, were the most famous. kate shellenbach represented luscious
>jackson's brand of punk meets funk. lisa germano added a heavy dose of the
>singer-songwriter vibe, marked by a vulnerable sincerity that seemed to say,
>"if you hurt me, it's your loss." lourdes perez, a latin-american singer,
>performed songs in spanish and gene smith performed (gasp) spoken-word
poetry.
>
>smith, in a nutshell, sort of represented everything that could and did go
>wrong with the equal-opportunity format of the evening. why is it that no one
>can parody spoken-word artists as well as the artists themselves? smith's
>rants, accompanied by thalia zadek's screeching guitar feedback, were flimsy
>chronicles of (what else?) dysfunctional families treated with a disingenuous
>touch that probably had virginia woolf rolling in her grave. one audience
>member asked out loud, "now what? interpretive dance?"
>
>if smith represented the evening's nadir, perez provided the most refreshing
>diversity. her deep voice and dramatic phrasing reminds one that even opera
>was once a folk art. one of the show's highlights was a swift, upbeat version
>of the indigo girls' normally staid "power of two" during which perez traded
>spanish lines with saliers' english. gail ann dorsey, a sometime back-up
>singer for the indigo girls on tour, also wowed the crowd with a voice that
>was equal parts soul, folk and gospel, similar to tuck and patti but without
>the schmaltz. and when she broke into the unmistakable opening bars of david
>bowie's "ziggy stardust," she revealed herself as a bona fide hipster to
boot.
>
>in the also-ran category, tracy bonham failed to leave much of an impression
>with her solo violin improvisation, while jane siberry was more notable for
>her stage presence and enthusiasm than for her music, content to contribute
>her talents on piano, accordian and vocal harmonies to the works of others.
>come's zadek added an alt-rock flavor to the night with her straight-forward
>strumming and rough-hewn voice. other musicians, including indigo girls and
>b-52s bassist sara lee and josephine wiggs of the breeders, seemed content to
>play supporting roles.
>
>given the range of eclectic styles covered in such a relatively short time,
>suffragette sessions packs a lot of artistic bang for your buck. it's a heady
>mixture to take in all at once, but it's ultimately a risky musical
experiment
>essentially gone right -- albeit a little sloppy and self-indulgent in
>execution.
>
>jamie cowperthwait

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deb-thanks for posting the rolling stone article and reminding me why i don't
purchase it.  the rs believes it is the holy gospel of rock.  talk about an
experiment gone wrong.  the rs is no more than a leaflet of editorials by
writers whose attendance goal at concerts is to pick up metaphor stones to be
cast at the performers.  thanks, but no thanks!

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hi gang,

after playing with cooledit for awhile, i'm now convinced that i'm going
to be able to produce a full boot of the 2nd chicago show (including a
fairly clear rendition of "keep going" by pooh during jean's evergreen
piece). watch this space for a branch announcement probably next week.

i do have a plea also: i have a really good but partial boot of the
first night (due to unmentionable glitches or just my lack of
foresight). this is going to take a bit more work because i stood next
to some delightful screamers that night and need to edit out their
enthusiastic bouts of screeching. the recording levels were right on
target though, so the sound in between the screams is quite good, and
the chatter by the performers between songs is very clear. i'm hoping
someone else out here has a full boot so that i can splice in the
missing parts (early songs, ziggy and the encore).please, please,
please....:)

you can check out my suffragette page at
http://www.5pmrevolution.com/music/ig/suffragette.html.

i've revamped since my first post and added more pictures. i was really
surprised at the quality of the pictures i got. a first. probably due to
the fixed length 1.4 fstop lens i used this time. please send feedback
and suggestions if you have any. milwaukee pictures will go up this
week-end. a lot more turned out (used 400 speed instead of 200) and
they're fairly cool too. i'm trying to figure out a way to offer
reprints that won't be too much work and can be traded for tapes.
possibly three different sets of 4 or 5: the best of amy, emily and a&e
together.

please let me know if you have a tape of the first chicago night.
looking forward to a week-end of scanning and remastering,

monique

i don't know who it was who said that this song made her think of choosing
to leave home and family to follow a calling, but since i thought about it
that way the song really makes sense and is more powerful. thanks, whoever
you are! i've been going around singing it all day -

sharon

"i could teach her how i learned to dance when the music's ended"
cool as i am, dar williams
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"i know i'm small in a way, but i know i'm strong"
it's alright, emily saliers

hi to my adoring masses (as if)--
just to let you know, i'm temporarily unsubbing, cause, like sherlyn,
i'm also 'moving house' and have to pack up the computer and all (oh
god, what'll i do with my time *then*?!).  so i'll see you all sometime
next week.  try and find something to stare at angrily, in place of my
annoying posts.  be good...start a lamia fan club or something while i'm
out.  hee.
if i am involved in any sort of boot transactions for you, rest assured
you are on my list of priorities and if i haven't yet sent out blanks to
you, i will do so within the next few days.  :)

i'll miss youuuuuuu :,,,(

bar: please forward me any good stuff that passes thru the list (nothing
huge tho, hotmail will go boom!). thanks :)

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rolling stone crap writer, jamie cowperthwait, spewed:

on the sst:
>>the result is sort of like being forced to take your medicine. you
know it's
>>meant to be good for you, but it's not always easy to swallow.

on people waaaay cooler than she'll ever be:
>>smith's rants, accompanied by thalia zadek's screeching guitar
feedback, were flimsy
>>chronicles...treated with a disingenuous
>>touch that probably had virginia woolf rolling in her grave.

her final take on the sst:
>>albeit a little sloppy and self-indulgent

you know, the print media and the fluff they choose to produce never
ceases to amaze me. (aside from the obvious
commercial/spam/advertisement/corporate/capitalism- laden final product,
all slick and glossy and printed in 210 colors cause that's what
attracts the american public:  pretty colors and writing on an 8th-grade
reading level.)  wait, this woman fancies herself a *writer*?  oh ha.
make me laugh.  once again, it's a case of those with no knowledge of
the musicians (beyond that of, "oh yeah, i like the indigo girls, they
do that song, that galileo one, right?  i guess i'll go to this
suffragette thing, cause i'll get to see amy ray") just talking simply
to hear themselves talk.  whatever. you know the truth and i know the
truth.  and truthfully, this woman's a dolt.  and that remark about
thalia's guitar work had better *not* been meant in a derogatory sense,
or else i'm marchin my ass down to rolling stone at coming back with ms.
cowperthwait's head on a platter.  no, on a come record.

somedaaay i'll be in print and *then* the truuuuth will be out theeere
(ha)

jill
p.s. deb, how did i guess it was you who chose to forward a post so
patently anti-jean smith? ;) mmm hmmm.

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at 01:38 pm 9/11/98 , swamp ophelia wrote:
>p.s. deb, how did i guess it was you who chose to forward a post so
>patently anti-jean smith? ;) mmm hmmm.

having seen me here over the years, i'm sure that just the fact that it was
igc makes it a pretty good chance it was from me. :-) it was a full review
of the sst in a major publication... the fact that she agreed with me was
just a bonus.

how did i guess that you would be getting pissy in defense of jean? ;)

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hi everyone!!

i just wanted to say that i think the listmeet should be somewhere in
the midwest, maybe like in kansas (wink wink) or something...or else
somewhere cool, a big exciting city like little rock or something. but
atlanta would be cool too...i wanna go to emily's house and see if i can
talk to someone she knows!!! (or maybe her..that would be so cool). i
know we're not supposed to do that, but i still want to!

anywayz...i just started school again =( so i'm really busy. i want to
drop out and go follow marilyn manson around the country...one of my
friend's did that and he said it was so cool! but my mom probably
wouldn't like it...last time i tried to go to a marilyn manson concert
my mom made the minister come talk to me about "evil" and "sin"...

p.s. did everyone see *the god* on mtv last night??? sigh...he is so
beautiful w/ that red hair =)

love, debs (who is still dreaming about marilyn)

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i just heard lullaby by shawn mullins on kiss, one of boston's biggest
radio stations!!! i don't listen to the radio very often, so i don't know
if they have been playing him alot or not...has anyone else heard him on
the radio?
congratulations to the band and to daemon!!!!

lcasey

hi everyone!

in a message dated 9/11/98 1:41:18 pm eastern daylight time,
jillyc@hotmail.com writes:

<< i'm marchin my ass down to rolling stone at coming back with ms.
cowperthwait's head on a platter. no, on a come record. >>

amen.. awoman!!!

once again the mainstream media just doesn't get it. this review reminds me of
an arts critic from the philadelphia inquirer that didn't even have the
common sense to read a synopsis of "tosca" before coming to the production.
whereupon, she asked: "so, what's tosca about?"

i wonder if, for an instant critics can put down the mighty pen and really see
what they are reviewing.

it doesn't take much understanding to notice the difference between heartfelt
effort, artistic diligence and craft vs. being put on but careless morons who
profess to be artists.

if there was a criticism to be made about sst perhaps copperthwait should have
started with "thanks indigo girls for giving us something new..."

trying to be peaceful
kathleen

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on fri, 11 sep 1998, laura chandra wrote:

> i just heard lullaby by shawn mullins on kiss, one of boston's biggest
> radio stations!!! i don't listen to the radio very often, so i don't know
> if they have been playing him alot or not...has anyone else heard him on
> the radio?

        i heard it here last night in los angeles on kysr (star 98.7), as
the midnight snack, which is usually a trial song that they play and let
the listeners decide on.  all the listeners who called in said they liked
the song, and it may make their playlist there . . .  i would have called
in, but i was halfway through restringing my guitar at the time, go
figure, and by the time i finished putting on that string they'd stopped
taking callers . . . speaking of kysr i should start bugging them about
why they stopped playing "shame on you" a while back . . .

> congratulations to the band and to daemon!!!!

congratulations most definitely. :)

        screaming in cathedrals,
        shanie
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guess i'm an underwater thing, i'm liquid running. . .  there's a sea
secret in me--it's plain to see that it is rising, but i must be flowing
liquid diamonds. . ."
                                        -- tori amos, "liquid diamonds"

i haven't seen this article posted yet...it's from the ny times.  there was
also a picture of amy, emily, gail, & lisa.  i'm sure the article is
copyrighted or something like that.  i got it from http://www.nytimes.com.

andi

september 5, 1998, saturday
section: arts & ideas/cultural desk

pop review; when all you need is love, for starters

by jon pareles

the suffragette sessions tour, which wound up its itinerary at irving plaza
on thursday night, can't avoid comparisons to the lilith fair. it was
organized by the indigo girls, amy ray and emily saliers, who were part of
lilith this year; it was also a package tour of female musicians. but
unlike lilith, a day of performances by headliners and their bands, the
suffragette sessions was one cooperative set in which all the women shared
the stage, playing backup and singing harmony for one another. and the
performers generally had the spotlight for two songs each, regardless of
commercial status.

for diversity, the suffragette sessions outstripped lilith, though that
wasn't difficult; the music dared to be raucous as well as tender. along
with a plurality of guitar-strumming pop-folk songwriters, the irving plaza
show also included rockers (thalia zedek of come, josephine wiggs of the
breeders, and jill cunniff and kate schellenbach of luscious jackson); a
mexican-american singer performing in spanish (lourdes perez), and
alternative-rock's version of a beat poet, jean smith of mecca normal,
whose screeching guitar and spoken words, about strange journeys and
dysfunctional families, drew the show's only hostile response.

the two-hour set was a symposium on love: longing for it, accepting it,
abusing it, letting it go, wishing it could return. ''lie down in the fire
with me,'' urged the first song, luscious jackson's ''under your skin.''
the set moved between the simplicity of a lone guitar or keyboard to
steady-strumming folk-rock to the exuberant punk-pop of the breeders'
''cannonball'' and a song by the ko-stars, ''roll the dice.''

the indigo girls' songs, like ''power of two,'' were pep talks for lovers
on the verge, urging them to seize the moment and trust their hearts; fans
sang along as if they were anthems. gail ann dorsey, one of the tour's
utility musicians -- she sang and played bass, guitar and drums -- unveiled
amiable tunes about love's fluctuations, with daring melodic leaps and
metric shifts akin to burt bacharach. ''i love the drama,'' one song
admitted.

ms. perez brought the ardent, near-sobbing tones of latin american ballads
to her songs, using her gutsy declamation to reminisce over lost love and
to praise women's power to nurture life.

ms. zedek's songs were more hard-nosed, vowing, ''you can't deceive me
tonight.'
she delivered them in a raspy voice that backed by the band's folk-rock,
sounded
surprisingly like bob dylan's.

rose polenzani sang a fragile, elusive waltz, ''or,'' about a woman
contemplating suicide, singing, ''i'll be the powerful one/ i'm ready to
leave all this wreckage behind me.'' lisa germano, with her voice low and
breathy and depressive, sang about loneliness and withdrawal from the
world, backed by modest piano parts that sounded like a little girl's
practice sessions. she also backed up other singers on fiddle, mandolin and
accordion.

among all the thoughtful and exuberant voices, there was one sublime song: jane
siberry's ''love is everything,'' a hymn to love's power to heal and wound,
harmonized by the other women on stage. ms. siberry's other song was more
whimsical and visionary; the singer was a fisherman who had the whole ocean
as a lover. more than the individual songs, however, the suffragette
sessions was a tribute to teamwork and mutual appreciation.

it's hard to imagine an equal number of recognized male musicians sharing a
stage the same way.

buffalo daughter, from tokyo, provided a salutary jolt as the opening act.
two women on keyboards and guitar, backed by a male drummer, romped through
all sorts of propulsion, calmly ignoring categories and format divisions to
seize the power of repetition. they moved easily from rock marches to
frenzied punk-rock strumming to no-wave guitar noise, and they built
looping dance-music keyboard riffs into extended, kinetic grooves, although
the indigo girls' fans resisted dancing. now and then, the women sang in
sweetly deadpan voices; their version of a rockers' road song is about
laundry and vitamins, called ''socks, drugs and rock 'n' roll.''

smart, funny and unstoppable, buffalo daughter even had a love song,
''jellyfish
blues,'' that carried beatles-style melody into a serene, electronic world
of its own.

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                      well, there's no comfort like that
                          and when somebody needs you
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hi friends!

well, in a few minutes i'll be driving down to st. louis to
participate in the open olympic softball tryouts.  i
applied and was invited to come down.  so, here i
am.  call me crazy or whatever, but please, collectively,
everyone wish me luck, send great thoughts my
way, pray for me, or better yet, wish me grace and
no jitters.  i'll need everything you've got.  i am nothing
without my friends and loved ones, and i'll be thinking
of you all.

the tryouts start at 8:30 am saturday. i've got to
get going to get to the hotel and get some rest.
i'll let everyone know how they went, unless of
course, i really stink, but i've got at least
some confidence that i won't be that bad. (fingers
crossed....knocking on wood......)

thanks, y'all! :)

lisa schreihart
cedar rapids, ia

listen ladies (and the occasional guy..lol). i apologize to the billions of
you who i am making boots for. i have received tapes, all high quality i am
pleased to say, and i will try my best to get them out as soon as
possible....unfortunately it's my junior year and i have a ton of work to say
the least. i'll be sending them out soon. thanks for the patience. much love,
janet. noexit00@aol.com

>it was a full review
>of the sst in a major publication...
just remember: just because something's *major* does not mean it's
good, right, or worthwhile. hell, look at the republican party.

>how did i guess that you would be getting pissy in defense of jean?
oh maybe because i like to speak up for people who are unnecessarily
ostracized...? or maybe cause i just always like to speak up, as a
general rule. ;). not that you guys are a captive audience to *that* or
anything...

i'll go take my bad mood elsewhere, but just in case, don't anybody even
look at me funny or else i'll spew a cloud of obscenities that will hang
over cleveland for years. don't take it personally, just a bad karma
thing goin on.

jill
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rosemary's baby wrote:

>...i wanna go to emily's house and see if i can
>talk to someone she knows!!! (or maybe her..that would be so cool). i
>know we're not supposed to do that, but i still want to!

and
>i want to
>drop out and go follow marilyn manson around the country...

aaand
>...last time i tried to go to a marilyn manson concert
>my mom made the minister come talk to me about "evil" and "sin"...

gee, deb, with the expository clarity with which you lay out your life
story, i find it awful hard to believe you're just a wee bitty high
schooler, ha ha. no, no, little misguided one, dropping out is not for
you. i'd hate to see you slip any further downhill.

love, as always,
jill (i warned you i was pissed)

p.s. deb, i've got a nice marilyn manson poster... took it down at the
odeon for my g/f at the time... sucks to be her, cause i never gave it
to her, and he's got that beeyouteeful flaming red hair in the pic. ya
know, if you'd just get real for once, i might even be willing to pass
it on to you, little one.

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i don't know if anyone posted about this, and i would type up the whole
thing, but i ripped out the page and i'm not sure where i put it
in my packing mess. but from the page that is still there partially
intact i know it was page 132 in this weeks voice. check it out...
maybe someone who has a copy wants to type it up....

---slavi

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hey listees!
just wondering if anyone out there has heard jill sobule's self-titled cd. i
know it has "i kissed a girl" on it, but i just ordered it for $1.99 through
my columbia house subscription and wanted to know if the rest of the cd was
good. sorry for the nigc. thanks.

jessie
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greetings fellow sarah-heads!
:) leanne bitner back with you after a long and wonderful summer on the
lilith fair tour. - a big hello to all of the awesome people that i met
along the way (hi fumblers!!!). you made my lilith fair experience very
special! your support is greatly appreciated. (if you didn't get a chance
to attend lilith this time around, don't fear, it will be back next year!)
i hope you drew all that you could from the festival. i must say that i now
have added quite a few of the lilith roster to my list of favourite
band/female artists...and of course, after seeing sarah perform approx. 50
times (i don't mean to rub it in - believe me, i feel very fortunate), i
have more admiration for her than ever. she is an extremely inspiring
lady...
feel free to share any of your lilith stories with us at murmurs. i would
be more than happy to hear them! (write to murmurs@nettwerk.com)

ok, now on to this week's news:
as you may have predicted, the next single to be released to radio from
surfacing is 'angel' which is also featured on the 'city of angels'
soundtrack. it won't be released as a cd or cassette single, as it already
appears on the cd single for 'adia' as a bonus track. be sure to request it
from your local radio station! in speaking to sarah recently, we've
discovered that she has decided not to shoot a video for it, but we'll keep
you posted if she changes her mind.

canadian sarah fans: our diva has been nominated in four categories in the
second
annual pacific music industry awards in the following categories:

        best rock/pop album: surfacing
        single of the year: building a mystery
        song of the year: sweet surrender
        best female vocalist of the year

this award show will take place *sunday, november 8th* right here in
vancouver. no word at this time as to whether sarah will attend, or whether
the show will be broadcast. again, we'll keep you posted.

american fans: sarah's performance on vh1's 'storytellers' will be
re-broadcast this *sunday, september 13th* at 4pm (pst), and will be
followed by vh1's 'behind the music' special on last year's lilith fair at
5pm (pst).

and finally...a big shout out to murmurs member matt harker who was flown
to nyc today for the taping of a soon-to-come vh1 special on male fans of
female musicians (- namely, male groupies of chick rockers!). in which
sarah is his number one "chick". it should be a great! we will keep you
posted for air-time.

have a safe, relaxing and fun weekend, folks!
until next week...
:)leanne bitner
murmurs coordinator

jennifer gray
murmurs coordinator

***** murmurs@nettwerk.com *****

ps: did everyone catch drop-dead gorgeous sarah presenting an award on the
mtv video awards with natalie ambruglia last night? wow! what a pairing.

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date: fri, 11 sep 1998 21:39:46 -0400
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at 01:59 pm 9/11/98 -0700, you wrote:
>> congratulations to the band and to daemon!!!!
first off, shawn mullins is the signed artist here, not the band(they are
technically his employees, though they all think of each other as
family....and he treats them wonderfully)....
second, shawn has absolutely nothing to do with daemon records....he is
signed to columbia and prior to that was on his own label smg records....he
and the indigo girls share a manager and are friends....that is all.

finally,  this is a schedule for shawn and the band for the next month or
so...what follows is all the details i have...call local radio stations for
further info.('tbd' means 'to be determined')......
sa   9/12  atlanta, ga  99x big day out
su   9/13  columbia, sc  warq festival
tu   9/15  chicago, il  metro(q101 show)
we   9/16  albany, ny  tbd
fr   9/18  boston, ma  mama kin's
sa   9/19  wash, dc  whfs show
su   9/20  philly, pa  khyber pass(y100 show)
mo   9/21  cleveland, oh  wilbert's(wenz show)
tu   9/22  detroit, mi  7th house
th   9/24  portland, or  tbd
fr   9/25  san fran, ca  live 105 show
sa   9/26  sacramento, ca  tbd
su   9/27  santa barb, ca  tbd
mo   9/28  la, ca  viper room
we   9/30  austin, tx  stubb's(krox show)
th   10/1  houston, tx  billy blues(ktbz show)
fr   10/2  dallas, tx  tbd
sa   10/3  hartford, ct  wmrq show
su   10/4  providence, ri  tbd

go check them out if you can while tickets are still cheap.
soul's core, the current album is released nationally on tues, sept. 15
later
cheri

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on fri, 11 sep 1998, jessie lycholat wrote:

> just wondering if anyone out there has heard jill sobule's self-titled cd. i
> know it has "i kissed a girl" on it, but i just ordered it for $1.99 through
> my columbia house subscription and wanted to know if the rest of the cd was
> good. sorry for the nigc. thanks.

   god yes!!!  with the exception of another song, i'd have to say that "i
kissed a girl" is the weakest song on the album!!!  it's hilarious and
introspective and completely droolworthy!!!
   and speaking of which, whatever happened to jill sobule?  last i heard,
lava/atlantic shamelessly booted her.  i've been trying to hunt down info,
but nobody seems to know.

darius

>i just wanted to say that i think the listmeet should be somewhere in
>the midwest, maybe like in kansas (wink wink)

heyyy!!! i'm from kansas!!!! hmmm, come to think of it, i did transfer
out of ku to go to school in california for some reason...;)

--kelly

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make sure to cc it to me as well, so i get to see your reply.

jillers

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hey y'all. i was wondering if anybody had any idea where i could
possibly get an ig bumpersticker or two..or any type of ig sticker.
any help is appreciated. thanks y'all. erin :)

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in a message dated 98-09-12 01:23:28 edt, igpirate@yahoo.com writes:

<>

i'd like to know where to find some too.

lynn :-) <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/index.html">
tahmehawk's place</a>

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hey y'all!

just wanted to let you know i've done another update... lots of pictures
to see... added a new site called "we dig ig" as well! pics from the ig
big room show and pics from michelle malone's nye show at eddie's last
year!

check it out & update your bookmarks if you need too!

http://www.geocities.com/heartland/woods/9711/twink1.html

a whole lotta work went into adding this... let me know what you think!
enjoy!

twink!
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hey y'all...would anyone have any of these boots and be willing to trade?
my boot page can be found at http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/indigodar
(please note that the url is case sensitive).

anyway, here's what i'm lookin' for:
* the boston orpheum show. i have it, but my copy is way fucked up and i
want a nice sounding one.
* lexington, ky...april 1998
* columbus, oh...1 december 1997
*ani difranco...4 july 1998, san jose, ca...this was my first (and
probably last since she seems to love to charge so much for tickets) ani
show...
* michigan womyn's music fest...this past august

if anyone has any of these and would be willing to trade, or whatever,
please e-mail me!

love,
karen :-)

> i wonder if, for an instant critics can put down the mighty pen and really
> see what they are reviewing.
>
> it doesn't take much understanding to notice the difference between
> heartfelt effort, artistic diligence and craft vs. being put on but careless
morons
> who profess to be artists.

an old adage:

those who can.....do.....those who can't....teach.....

to which i add.....those who haven't got a clue.....criticize.....

> whatever. you know the truth and i know the
> truth. and truthfully, this woman's a dolt. and that remark about
> thalia's guitar work had better *not* been meant in a derogatory sense,
> or else i'm marchin my ass down to rolling stone at coming back with ms.
> cowperthwait's head on a platter. no, on a come record.

white wine or red??? ;)

cheers....
tim

great observation!!!

> the rs is no more than a leaflet of editorials by
> writers whose attendance goal at concerts is to pick up metaphor stones to
> be cast at the performers. thanks, but no thanks!

i know that earlier this year bumperstickers were discussed and ordered (i
thought). i too, would like to get one, so could the person who was in
charge of this please step forward! :) thanks!!!

peace y'all, laura

twink...i can't get your webpage to come up =(
could you re-port the url?

amy
=o)

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great pics ~ thanks! [ann]

barb & twink wrote:

> hey y'all!
>
> just wanted to let you know i've done another update... lots of
> pictures
> to see... added a new site called "we dig ig" as well!  pics from the
> ig
> big room show and pics from michelle malone's nye show at eddie's last
>
> year!
>
> check it out & update your bookmarks if you need too!
>
> http://www.geocities.com/heartland/woods/9711/twink1.html
>
> a whole lotta work went into adding this... let me know what you
> think!
> enjoy!
>
> twink!
> --
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>
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in a message dated 9/11/98 7:47:46 pm central daylight time,
jessluvsu2@aol.com writes:

<< just wondering if anyone out there has heard jill sobule's self-titled cd.
i
know it has "i kissed a girl" on it, but i just ordered it for $1.99 through
my columbia house subscription and wanted to know if the rest of the cd was
good. >>

i think it's excellent...and a total bargain at $1.99!! :-) several songs
are written and presented with a healthy sense of humor. on all of the songs,
even the more serious ones, she has a very full imagination and it's wonderful
to go on the trip with her.

enjoy,
rebecca

women's music event north of the bay area:

the dream unfolding, a benefit for the ima permanent site fund

sunday, september 27th, at caswell vineyards in occidental

gates open at 11am, tickets: $22 adv, $25 gate, $10 youth,
children under 13 free

featuring

june & jean millington and the slammin babes

amy simpson, copper wimmin, rhiannon, lynn
vidal, megan mc elroy, teresa trull & barbara higbie

with special guests

nancy vogl and ferron

caswell vinyards is located at 13207 dupont rd.
take sebastopol hwy 101 to 12w to 116n, right on graton rd., right on
tanuda, right on harrison grade, follow signs to festival

tickets available at: copperfields books: sebastopol, petaluma, santa
rosa, north light books: cotati, mama bears: oakland

or mail a sase & check to : ima, po box 253, bodega, ca 94922

$10 work exchange tix available through ima

for information call (707) 876-3004

e-mail: imabodega@aol.com

vegetarian and omnivore fare
concessions proceeds benefit ima

the institute for the musical arts is a non-profit teaching,
performing & recording facility dedicated to supporting women in music

http://www.ima.org/index.htm

so, i was in the goodwill yesterday and they were selling cds, so i figured
i'd check them out, and guess what i found for only three bucks! michelle
malone and drag the river, relentless! : ) i have only listened to the first
two tracks so far : )
--kate

ok; i got a flyer from daemon yesterday and i'm thinkin' i need to get one of
the new mongrels cds, but which one?  anyone have a suggestion on which one i
should purchase 1st?  i'm just looking for some reviews on either cd.  which
is your fave and why...blah, blah.  thanks in advance for helping me make this
critical decision!!  lol

jennifer

>>gee, deb, with the expository clarity with which you lay out your life
story, i find it awful hard to believe you're just a wee bitty high
schooler, ha ha. no, no, little misguided one, dropping out is not for
you. i'd hate to see you slip any further downhill. <<

as a fellow listee, i find these kind of responses really condescending and
unnecessary.  debi is a human being just like the rest of us, and who said
that all ig fans need to be similar in their tastes and interests?  i've
always found this list to be a place where people try to respect each other at
least, and calling debi "satan's child" and "rosemary's baby"  and talking to
her as "little one" isn't very respectful to debi as a person.
(sorry debi, i don't mean to talk about you like you're not here) =)

mollie

i saw someone driving w/an ig bumper sticker today.  it's the first one i've
seen on someone's car that i don't know the person :)  it was very exciting
especially because the car i was in had one on too.  i need one of those for
my poor car when it gets fixed.  bye now-

catie

ok, we've pretty much determined that ig bumperstickers are almost impossible
to find, so how 'bout buttons or pins with the ig pic's and/or name on them?
are there any availiable anywhere? i have never seen or heard of any.

thanks ya'll,

lynn :-) <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/home.html">tahmehawk's
place</a>

hello all,

due to technical difficulties, i changed the url on my opening page and i
wanted to pass it along to those here that frequent my site. the old opening
page will only have the new addy posted there, so please make note of the
change.

the new url is: http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/home.html

bye now,

lynn :-) <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/home.html">tahmehawk's
place</a>

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probably be from back in the spring), please contact me at =
dragonjen@spydee.net as soon as possible.

~~jennifer
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
i have spent nights with matches and knives
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cutting my heart, burning my soul, nothing left to hold.
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hi,

while browsing today in a used cd store, i came across viva la diva's
greatest hits volume i for 2 bucks and a cd from "band du soleil" for 6
bucks. it made my day - little things make me happy, but of course big
things make me much happier!

elaine

sorry if this is a dumb question, but i'm new to the list and wondered if,
in addition to random ig comments (which, don't get me wrong, i love!)
people also send out concrete info. about tour dates, appearances, where to
get tickets, etc. thank you!
--sarah

hey all,
for those interested here is a teeny bit more info.(bold) on shawn's fall
schedule....
9/16 albany, ny  transworld convention
9/17 dallas, tx  anderson convention
9/19 wash, dc    metro cafe
that's all for now
later
cheri

did anyone watch vh1's rock & roll jeapordy tonight? there was an indigo
girls question! :) it said something like "this duo of amy ray and emily
sailers won a grammy for their single "closer to fine"

or something like that. i was on the phone with my dad at the time, and i
started screaming, so i had to convince him that noone was breaking into
my apartment and trying to kill me. sheesh.

:)
amy

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date: sat, 12 sep 1998 20:34:36 -0400
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hey y'all!

yes!  i went used cd shopping, and among some other things that i had been
looking for, i found a used shonen knife tape!  yippie!!!!!  i was soooo
psyched!  i also found a lisa g. cd, but it wasn't the one that i wanted,
and since i am broke, i didn't buy it.

but (i can say this cause jilly's not here). i got jilly a small gift...i
know she's been lookin' for something and i found it (carol, shhhhhh,
don't tell her!!!). so anyway, i am gonna surprise her with it (there's
no way i am posting what it is to the list b/c it's bound to get back to
her!)

all right, i must get ready for this fraternity (geez, me at a frat
party?! that's a joke!) that i was invited to...later!

love,
karen :-)

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hey everyone-

did anyone boot the simulcast of the detroit ss show that was broadcast
by the river out of windsor, on?

if so, please contact me privately. i really need a boot of that show.

thanks-

karrie
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{   with haughty eyes and lying tongues and hands that shed   }
{                        innocent blood?                      }
{   who delivered you the power, to interpret calvary?        }
{  you gamble away our freedom to gain your own authority.    }
{                                       -amy ray              }
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i know they sell bumperstickers @ concerts & i've seen them on web pages for
sale before too. it would be neet if they sold ig guitar pic pins, but i
don't think i've ever seen them. bye now-

catie

we have to laugh @ ourselves because we'd cry our eyes out if we didn't- ig

in a message dated 9/12/98 4:44:19 pm est, tahmehawk@aol.com writes:

<< ok, we've pretty much determined that ig bumperstickers are almost
impossible
to find, >>

i know we've dicussed this before, but has anyone checked with the fan
club/aka russell carter management?  that's where i've gotten mine in the
past.  i can't find the last order form/newsletter that i received from them
or i'd check to see if the bumperstickers were still listed on there.  i know
they were $3 or so, blue lettering on a white background.  i wish i'd gotten
alot more at the time i bought mine so's i could share w/
everyone..but.....sorry.
  anyhow, check w/ them.    jennifer

hello everyone:)

i have a few cd's sitting here in front of me that have been collecting dust
ever since i got them, and after much deliberation i finally came to the
conclusion   that it's time get rid of 'em :)  i figured  some folks on this
list might  be interested.  here they are, w\ the price i paid for them.  i
might be willing to let them go possibly in exchange for a few boots, maybe
not.  make me a deal, be creative:)

k's choice~ the great subconscious club - $8
lisa germano~excerpts from a love circus - $14 (brand new, listened to it
once)
shonen knife~ let's knife - $8

k's choice and shonen knife i bought used, lisa germano is brand new.

aloha,
emily

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>first things first:
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>after they read the mail so i thought what the heck.

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date: sat, 12 sep 1998 22:19:13 edt
reply-to: wishmonstr@aol.com
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ummm . . . have any other aol people been getting the digest on a bright red
backround lately? just wondering . . .

~ elizabeth

sorry for the nigc, but since there are a lot of guitarists on here, i
thought i'd ask. does anyone know where i can get tabs on the internet for
trish yearwoods song "hard promises to keep" from her "the song remains the
same" cd???

thanks!!
- jen mek

listees:
just wanted to send out a warm thanks to all who responded to my jill sobule
question. you guys are great. can't wait to get the cd now! muchas gracias,
again.

smiles,
jessie
=)

hmm... this is odd, but not unusual, this is the 2nd time that i've seen
tour dates posted either on this list or the net missing certain
dates, well specifically ny 'cuz if say chicago or st louis were missing
i'd be none the wiser. anyway according to the voice well
particularly the ad for shine has shawn mullins scheduled for september
17. that's shine 285west broadway at canal 212-941-0900 21+ :-(
well i'm gonna be out of town already anyway, make way big apple
circus...

enjoy,
slavi

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in a message dated 98-09-12 20:33:45 edt, you write:

<< did anyone watch vh1's rock & roll jeapordy tonight? there was an indigo
girls question! :) it said something like "this duo of amy ray and emily
sailers won a grammy for their single "closer to fine"
>>

the category was singers. my roommate and i decided that it had to be (gay)
singers because the 200 point question (they don't use money in this version)
was "who is melissa etheridge?", 400 was "who is k.d. lang?", 600 was "who are
indigo girls?", 800 was "who is george michael?", and 1000, which could throw
off our entire theory because i have no idea about their sexualities, was "who
is frankie goes to hollywood?" i guess it's unimportant, but i thought it to
be rather amusing... peace, love, and butter biscuits, sarah

tonight i saw joni lawrence and m (j?) walker at a women's bookstore in
madison. anyway, i recomend them to indigo fans. also they had the
words"indigo girls" written the way it is on 1200curfews taped to their
drum. that's all.

just wondering i know we have a very diverse group here...how do you all
feel about the starr report? anyone read any of it?

karen (votes for resignation with what's left of his dignity)

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this is odder than i thought -- shawn mullins first, i just posted that
it says in the paper he's doing a show in nyc on 9/17 and someone
else posted he's gonna be in tx on that date. go figure...

anyway, this is completely off topic nad not connected to anything, but
it's funny....
1. go into microsoft word
2. type i'd like to see bill gates dead.
3. highlight it
4. click on thesaurus under tools menu
5. :-)

enjoy,
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blah blah blaaaaah:
>...calling debi "satan's child" and "rosemary's baby" and talking to
>her as "little one" isn't very respectful to debi as a person.
>(sorry debi, i don't mean to talk about you like you're not here) =)

dearest mollie and my loved ones (i miiiiss you... sniffle...)

if it has managed to slip past anyone else's eyes, i'll tell ya what the
deal with deb is:  she ain't a kid, she ain't real.  she is not a
person, she's a *caricature* of what some weirdo out there in aolland
thinks a kid would sound like.  it's like some big creative writing
project for this person.  unfortunately, like the vast majority of
rolling stone writers, this person also fails miserably in their
attempts-- in "deb singer"'s case, at character development.

do forgive me for my failure to respect debi as a work of (badly
crafted) fiction and nothing more. but i know what the real deal is and
refused to be flamed for my "disrespectful" words.

i can't believe folks are falling for this...
jill

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one more thing--

> and calling debi "satan's child" ...
>isn't very respectful...

the phrase "satan's child", for which i am being scolded, is a
referrence to a line from a song by, i believe, michelle malone (sweet
evil thing, i think?).

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hey guys,

i don't mean to flame but can we please please please please stop sending
forwards to the list?  i think i got that #1-11 column forward like 10
times in the past 2 days!  i have no problem with other nigc stuff, but
it's really annoying to get forwards as list mail.  okay, that's all i
have to say for now as i am cranky and tired (i just got back from a frat
party and a bunch of other parties and i really should be in bed and not
on e-mail...).

karen

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in a message dated 9/13/98 0:27:13 am est, jillyc@hotmail.com writes:

<< she ain't a kid, she ain't real. she is not a
person, she's a *caricature* of what some weirdo out there in aolland
thinks a kid would sound like. >>

  what does a 15 yr old really sound like?  i coached a girls jv basketball
team for 4 years and i met a couple of "deb-s", not so much the players, but
there was a girl that kept stats 1 year and debi reminds me of that girl.
  i just don't see how or why someone would go to the trouble of subcribing to
this list, wade through all the mail only to delete it and then post something
with iigc (inappropriate igc) once/twice every coupla weeks.  i don't think
she's a plant/aolland wierdo..whatever; just a teenager who hasn't yet learned
that some things are better left unsaid/unwritten.  it's called tact; look it
up cuz it'll comes in handy throughout life.
basically deb, if you read any of these posts, you need to respect the people
on this list and read the faq -  this isn't a chatroom where any psycho-babble
goes.
i'm shuttin' up now.....jennifer

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i vote that we take this to private email.

thanks,
gina

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gina woods-norris wrote:

> i vote that we take this to private email.

i second that.

hugs and hershey kisses~
luna

>i vote that we take this to private email.

i hate "me-too" post as much as anyone, but can we pleeeeeeese keep this
out of the list? it is totally nigc and many of us are allready sick as
can be of it. so please, unless out girls issue a statement or hold a
bennifit for this (and can you imagine?) can we please keep this a
star-free heavan?

thanks,
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in a message dated 9/12/98 2:44:07 pm pacific daylight time, tahmehawk@aol.com
writes:

<< ok, we've pretty much determined that ig bumperstickers are almost
impossible
to find, so how 'bout buttons or pins with the ig pic's and/or name on them?
are there any availiable anywhere? i have never seen or heard of any. >>

maybe we could get bumperstickers made too. what do ya'll think?!

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does anyone have chords to this song? please e-mail privately.

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i couldn't have said it better myself jill. i've been trying to tell them
the same thing for months.

no flames here, i have a daughter her age and like i said before her
maturity level is that of a 40 year old woman compared to deb singer, and my
daughter is a typical 15 year old.

karen

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>it is totally nigc and many of us are allready sick as
>can be of it. so please, unless out girls issue a statement or hold a
>bennifit for this (and can you imagine?) can we please keep this a
>star-free heavan?
but... but... i do believe that e herself *wrote* about this whole thing...
"i used to lie like that alone out on the driveway, trying to read the geek
upon the stars..."
hmmm... i could be misinterpreting something...
peace all... kim; on the shady side of sanity
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at 09:11 pm 9/12/98 pdt, you wrote:
>this is odder than i thought -- shawn mullins first, i just posted that
>it says in the paper he's doing a show in nyc on 9/17 and someone
>else posted he's gonna be in tx on that date. go figure...

hmmmm...i'm puzzled too, but i will tell you the dates i posted come
straight from shawn's manager......the schedule says he'll be in albany, ny
on the 16th and in dallas on the 17th.  i would bet money that the dates i
have are correct.  the paper may be outdated(they do have deadlines for ads
days before the paper is actually printed).
i do know that shawn is at "shine" on 10/5, however, i've heard that may be
rescheduled as well.  you might just call the club!  technically all the
posted dates are subject to change!
sorry for any confusion!
cheri

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i'm dying for a suffragette session boot from irving plaza in nyc! got any
ideas on how to get one????????

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at 05:52 am 9/13/98 edt, katy lynne ashton wrote:

> maybe we could get bumperstickers made too. what do ya'll think?!

some kind listmember did that for all of us just a few months ago.
i don't remember who it was, because i didn't order one...i have one
on my car that i got from an ig concert.  but i do remember
we had a big vote for what the stickers were going to say/look like.
i think it ended up being  a + e = ig.  anyway, i also remember the
person who was organizing all of this was leaving for the summer
and she turned the order-taking and sticker-shipping over to her
brother since she was going to be away for a while.  (i *think*
that's right) whoever it was, they were awfully nice to go to all
that trouble for the list at large, and maybe they'll read this and
offer up any leftovers they still have to the list.

someone else asked about the official ig bumperstickers being available
through rcam.  well, i found the last newsletter-thingy i got from
them, and the bumperstickers are offered in it for $4 each.  wow, i think
i only paid $2 at the concert!  but i guess with rcam, the biggest
problem is *will you ever receive the order you placed*, not the $4 you
might have to pay for a bumpersticker.  anyway, keep in mind that
this newsletter i'm referring to is probably a year old.  it's the one where
they announce the fall tour.  all the west coast shows beginning in jan.
and the australian tour dates were not even confirmed yet at the time
of printing, so yeah.....it's a little old.

hope this helps at least somebody, somewhere!

leigh ann

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my own episode, but now all my theories are starting to unravel."
-amy, from last fall's ig newsletter

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the albany - dallas - boston tour dates (assuming dallas is correct) seems
kinda umm, out of the way, but do atlanta musicians ever have logical tour
dates (quickly remebering michelle malone's boston- chicago - newport dates
last month.)

mike r.

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what kind of info?
*may be going to that concert* *bounces*

--audra

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hello!
      i just wanted to let everyone know that the deadline for ordering
stickers will be this thursday.  that's four days from now.  i don't have to
have the money by then, just the order by e-mail part.  these are _not_ ig
stickers.  just that random list of stickers i've posted umpteen times.  if
you missed it and would like me to forward the list to you, let me know.  i
don't want to post it again because it's long and i'm sure some people are
tired of it... they are quite inexpensive, actually.  check 'em out.  that's
all!  hope to hear from everyone soon!  peace, sarah

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this is the url for the whole article:

http://cnn.com/world/americas/9809/12/mexico.floods.02/index.html

here are a few excerpts:

mexican president tours flood-ravaged chiapas:
more than 100 die in worst flooding in 40 years

motozintla, mexico, (cnn) -- president ernesto zedillo came face to face
saturday with distraught victims of the worst flooding to hit mexico in
40 years and pledged help for hundreds of thousands of people stranded
in villages that have been cut off from the rest of the world.

zedillo visited some of the communities in the southern state of chiapas
hardest hit by a week of torrential rain that killed more than 100
people, left 20,000 homeless and 400,000 with no roads.
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emergency services collected 200 tons of supplies in mexico city and
flew them to chiapas. but many areas, such as tapachula, a city of
260,000, were unreachable by road, and the logistics of distributing aid
were proving a nightmare, officials said.
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the natural disaster was the latest setback for chiapas' mainly
impoverished and largely indigenous population.

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some questions: the song, "go" that amy sang at all the suff. sess., she
wrote that, right? also, at the milw. suff. sess. she sang a song with the
lyric, "...bloody beast of burden, on a dark (texas?) road/woman in the
family way..." it sounds a lot like the song ig sang on sweet relief 2, a
vic chesnutt thing. did she write that? are there plans to record either on
their next album?

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hey ho all... long time ( seems like, anways ) no post...
i been lurking lately, cause i got me a job driving school bus + when i aint
scraping gum off'n the seats o' big ol' bertha ( <-- my bus ), i be working
on a womyn oriented sci fi fantasy novel... woo hoo. been reading evertang
y'all been tappin', but aint been postin' ( geez i gots great grammer... i's
gonna be a writer... yu huh )
anyhoo... just wanted to tap + tell y'all 'bout the tucows site where'n i
gots me an ig desktop ( i'll bet someone else has already posted about this
+ i's jest lookin' morther stupider...) ah well... too cool. there are ig
wavs fer windows start up; default; program close, etc and a nifty lil' ig
curser with an animated rop cover... e's hands do the lil' flying bird thang
and the rop halo thang kinda circles a's head... s'fun... go check it out:-)
do a search on tucows... i downloaded to disk on my gf's 'puter, otherwise
i'd copy paste it into this post fer y'all... but anyhoo...
time to git back to my story writing... have a great day/night... hell; go
ahead and have a great life:-) peace y'all... kim
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at 01:57 pm 9/12/98 , jennifer belton wrote:
>ok; i got a flyer from daemon yesterday and i'm thinkin' i need to get one of
>the new mongrels cds, but which one?

i definitely prefer "not dead yet," though i'd recommend either without
reservation! you can preview the entire 2nd cd at
<http://monsterbit.com/daemon/mongrels.html>.

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at 01:34 pm 9/13/98 , sarah t. rosenblum wrote:
>some questions: the song, "go" that amy sang at all the suff. sess., she
>wrote that, right?

correct. there's also an incomplete version hidden on "1200 curfews" (the
14th track of disc 2, it segues into the "touch me fall" chorus). for a
long time (even before the release of "1200 curfews"), fans called the song
"problem child," and you'll still see it called that on some older bootlegs.

>also, at the milw. suff. sess. she sang a song with the
>lyric, "...bloody beast of burden, on a dark (texas?) road/woman in the
>family way..." it sounds a lot like the song ig sang on sweet relief 2, a
>vic chesnutt thing. did she write that? are there plans to record either on
>their next album?

that's also a new amy song, we've been calling it "sister."

i guess this also answers your question as to whether there is ever any
actual information on this list. :-)

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in a message dated 98-09-13 13:08:00 edt, smaug@telusplanet.net writes:

<< i
gots me an ig desktop ( i'll bet someone else has already posted about this
+ i's jest lookin' morther stupider...) ah well... too cool. there are ig
wavs fer windows start up; default; program close, etc and a nifty lil' ig
curser with an animated rop cover... e's hands do the lil' flying bird thang
and the rop halo thang kinda circles a's head... s'fun... go check it out:-)
>>

i'd love to check this website out, but you didn't post the web addy. please
post it for all the newbie's....like me!

lynn :-) <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/home.html">tahmehawk's
place</a>

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date: sun, 13 sep 1998 15:03:11 -0400
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got a postcard from rose polenzani today:

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"rose exists on a level all her own... no one can touch her... botanical
love songs... dark histories... as holy as a mystic, as profane as you
perverted fantasies..." - amy ray of the indigo girls

thanks to everyone.  thanks to every every one.  thanks to all the indigo
girls fans.  thanks to the indigo girls.  last month i got to play six of
the twelve suffragette sessions, ending in nyc.  the show was a montage of
several lesser-known, powerfully talented women in music, spear-headed by
the indigo girls, who sang harmony on one of my songs, "or," while lisa
germano played mandolin.  it was so beautiful, so beautiful.  thanks to
everybody out there who is listening.  i'm looking forward to this tour.  i
love music.  to everyone who's ordering "dragersville":  you keep me
afloat.  tell anyone you can think of about these shows, the more the
people, the more i can keep coming back.

booking and management: gabriel unger, (617) 524-0094 or gdunger@aol.com

merchandise:
        dragersville (cd) $14
        studio demo (cass) $6
        4-track demos (cass) $6
send check or money order payable to:
        parhelion music
        3043 w. cortland
        chicago, il  60647
to pay by credit card visit http://www.rosepolenzani.com

----

the tour dates listed are all on the east coast, between ny and nh, but
updated tour info is available at the site above.

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at 02:59 pm 9/13/98 , lynn van fossen wrote:
>i'd love to check this website out, but you didn't post the web addy.
please
>post it for all the newbie's....like me!

one of the tucows <http://www.tucows.com> mirror sites that has it is here:

<http://uzoom.freethemes.com/zips/music/indigo.zip>

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thanks for the addy!

lynn :-) <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/home.html">tahmehawk's
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my apologies if this is a thread you've had before, especially if it was
recently. but this has brewed up some amusing conversation on a number of
other music listservs i've been on. here are the lyrics i've misheard, right
off the top of my head. only one is even remotely amusing:

real                                  i heard
====                                  =======
"clearing webs from a hovel"          "clearing webs from the hubble"

"gotta tend the earth if you want "gotta tend the earth if you wanna
a rose" grow"

"there's life down below me, "there's life down the lonely road"
though"

"i come with a softer answer to the "i come with a soft caresser to the
questions that lie in your path" questions that line your past"

"when you learn to love yourself, same thing, except "i cast"
you will dissolve all the stones
that are cast."

"ghosts of comfort, angels' breath, "to keep this knife inside my chest"
to keep this life inside my chest"

interested in seeing others'.

doyle srader
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arizona state university
(602) 965-5578

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http://tucows.tierranet.com/

this is a huge site. so far i can't find ig related stuff. wishing somebody
would let us know where to look.

thanks,
gina

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> date: sat, 12 sep 1998 02:56:43 edt
> from: "timothy j. baldwin" <lythande99@aol.com>
> subject: re: lemme just get pissy
>
> > i wonder if, for an instant critics can put down the mighty pen and really
> > see what they are reviewing.
> >
> > it doesn't take much understanding to notice the difference between
> > heartfelt effort, artistic diligence and craft vs. being put on but careless
> morons
> > who profess to be artists.
>
> an old adage:
>
> those who can.....do.....those who can't....teach.....
>
> to which i add.....those who haven't got a clue.....criticize.....

i wish i could remember whom this quote was from. i'll look it up tonight.

"no one has ever erected a statue to a critic."

and liberace's classic response is a little *too* cynical, but still a good
laugh:

"your review hurt me very much. i cried all the way to the bank."

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i spoke to rose at the milw. suff. sess. what a sweet heart! she's very
approachable. and very lucky, amy kissed her on stage. sigh.

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date: sun, 13 sep 1998 14:47:34 -0600
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here's mine, i didn't actually think this was the lyric, but it really
sounds like it: ,"postcards to the one-eyed miss" instead of "postcards to
the one i miss." hee hee

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date: sun, 13 sep 1998 14:49:18 -0600
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i have never heard "not dead (yet), but if you want to hear the most
incredible, sexy amy sung song, get "big cup of empty" "guy lombardo" is a
must for amy lovers

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"there are many newcomers to the women's music network, but most of the
performers don't relate to women's music and don't use the term. i observe
that they use the network but simultaniously ridicule it. other muscicians
refuse to acknowledge their roots of support in the network once they
experience success overground. i am disgusted by this behavior. i'm
thinking in particular of tracey chapman, the (sic) indigo girls, and
melissa ethridge. what is operating here is persistent misogyny and
internalized homophobia. women and lesbians, in particular, still have
difficulty honoring our own accomplishments."
-margie adam, feminist musician quoted in "backstage pass" by laura post.
i say ig does comment on the support they've received from women-see
"indigo girls, live at the uptown lounge." they do also say that they don't
want to alienate men cause everyone is important. what does everyone else
think?

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there's a cd/record show here today and there's some ig goodies i
found that i don't want but would be glad to pick up if anyone is
interested (hoping they're still there and not sold). there's a vinyl
promo copy of the self titled for $4 and a vinyl of the epic strange
fire for $5 (plus whatever the postage will be). there's a few cd
singles that i'm thinking of getting for myself or i might offer them
to the list, i haven't decided on them yet. the sale ends at 4 today
(pacific time) and i think i'll head over there again at 3:30 so
reply by then if interested and i'll pick up those records. i guess
it'll be first come first serve for this. and if someone who has the
sys remix 12" record could email me, i have a question (i think i got
a bum copy, grrrr).
-sam (the vinyl lovin' chica)

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on sun, 13 sep 1998 14:42:51 sarah t. rosenblum wrote:
>i spoke to rose at the milw. suff. sess. what a sweet heart! she's very
>approachable. and very lucky, amy kissed her on stage. sigh.

she really is a sweetheart. i was sitting out on the curb waiting for my mom, knowing my mom was mad at me and might not pick me up. rose came out of the building and i told her she was really good. she asked me who i was waiting for and i explained the whole mother thing. she gave an autograph and then she gave me a twenty to take a cab home. i didn't wanna take it but she made me. she is such a sweetheart. my mom did come for me later, and i saved the $20.

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please! let's not start it on this list ~ i am sick of the whole thing
as is....[ann]

karen frey wrote:

> just wondering i know we have a very diverse group here...how do you
> all
> feel about the starr report?  anyone read any of it?
>
> karen  (votes for resignation with what's left of his dignity)
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i blocked that deb person right off cuz i didn't want my mailbox clogged
with someone playing a prank..which it obviously was.
so i have no idea what really prompted this. however i have to say my
sister lel, is 15, and she's nothing like that chick. a couple years ago
(ok last year when i was 16) my girlfriend at the time (who btw was into
manson and nin and was briefly into satanism and is now into pagan
stuff, i believe) was also 15, neither one of them sounded anything like
this deb person...if deb was a real person and not a fictious
character...she's probably be a very young 12. :p
no one really says the things that she said, at least not the few i
heard before i blocked her...and apparently she has kept on.
but come on let's not fight about it! that's probably what "deb" wants.

*hugs*

lamia
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i couldn't have said it better myself jill. i've been trying to tell
them
the same thing for months.

no flames here, i have a daughter her age and like i said before her
maturity level is that of a 40 year old woman compared to deb singer,
and my
daughter is a typical 15 year old.

karen

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just wanted to say thankyou to the girl who sent me a pack of indigo girls papers...my dumb ass deleted her email address...but anway the packet was great...thankyou soooo much...

peace, promise, and pride...

chelsea

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date: sun, 13 sep 1998 17:50:23 -0700
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hey -

i'd like to thank whoever posted the addy w the new mongrels
'listening room' at the daemon site...! whoa - good stuff. i'd never
heard them before! thanks!! i'm going to have to order from daemon
sooon bc damn - they're good stuff!

can you listen to any of the cd's at the daemon site? or just certain
ones? or or??

thanks a bunch everyone!

take it easy -
sunny

==
"it's like ya know how ya go to the zoo and then ya realize all the animals are in cages...that's what this song is about. it's about not wanting to die...called world falls." --amy ray--

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date: sun, 13 sep 1998 18:04:01 -0700
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ok -

another thanks to whoever put out the addy for this site - i found
it!!  woo woo  and i have successfully downloaded and unzipped
everything...but now...how do i make it all work?  (ok now everyone's
gonna know how much i dont know about puters...yikes.) - so when i
click on some of the icons - another screen comes up that says "click
the program you want to use to open...(said file)"  help!  how do ya
know where to pute it and which file should open it?

anyone mind taking a moment to fill me in?

thanks!
sunny - who wishes she just *knew* how to do it all...

==
"it's like ya know how ya go to the zoo and then ya realize all the animals are in cages...that's what this song is about. it's about not wanting to die...called world falls." --amy ray--

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date: sun, 13 sep 1998 21:55:30 -0400
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the story fans would like to know that jennifer kimball's long awaited
cd is finally available. it's called veering from the wave and it's
good!

for those that are still confused, ... jennifer kimball was the half of
the story that wasn't jonatha brooke. :)

i can't get over how much they sound alike.
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date: sun, 13 sep 1998 22:02:03 -0500
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ok, i'm overwhelmed by the response here and have started to set up a tree
for this boot. i've contacted those who have volunteered and should be abl=
e
to post the tree very soon. to the 50 of you that are waiting to hear from
me, please be patient and wait for the tree, i haven't forgotten about you.=

i just can't handle that many requests. i do, however, need a canadian
branch if possible. i already have an aussie one (i hope!).

for those of you who were interested in the set list, it's as follows:

but it was a jean smith spoken word thing with tahlia zedek on guitar and
jane siberry on keyboard.=dd and jean told me afterwards it was the first tim=
e
they had done this one. =dd okay from there it goes like this.... =dd under you=
r
skin, gabriell, roll the dice, tengo la vida, faye tucker, pulling a cloud,
woodfloors, love is everything, pale light, go, a song by rose p....don't
recall the title, the setlist just says rose, but amy added that she was
doing this particular song because a had requested it, vestigos, chez
virtue=dd=dd this was gail ann dorsey....an amazing song!=dd emily was on backup,
way below radio, soon to be nothing, cannonball....rocked!! power of two =dd
encore fisherman midnight train to georgia =dd =dd

lisa

lisa nordeen
"ran as hard as i could, still ended up here."
-emily saliers

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ok, i'm overwhelmed by the response here and have started to set up a tree =
for this boot. i've contacted those who have volunteered and should be able=
to post the tree very soon. to the 50 of you that are waiting to hear from=
me, please be patient and wait for the tree, i haven't forgotten about you.=
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anch if possible. i already have an aussie one (i hope!). 
 
for those of you who were interested in the set list, it's as follows: 
 
but it was a jean smith spoken word thing with tahlia zedek =
on guitar and jane siberry on keyboard.=dd and jean told me afterwards it was =
the first time they had done this one. =dd okay from there it goes like this..=
.. =dd under your skin, gabriell, roll the dice, tengo la vida, faye tucker, p=
ulling a cloud, woodfloors, love is everything, pale light, go, a song by ro=
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hey y'all....

it's no secret that the girls attract a largely female audience....many of
them in comfortable shoes.....so what's ms adam's point???? this quote is
either extremely misinformed or from someone with an axe to grind.....

> "there are many newcomers to the women's music network, but most of the
>  performers don't relate to women's music and don't use the term. i observe
>  that they use the network but simultaniously ridicule it. other muscicians
>  refuse to acknowledge their roots of support in the network once they
>  experience success overground. i am disgusted by this behavior. i'm
>  thinking in particular of tracey chapman, the (sic) indigo girls, and
>  melissa ethridge. what is operating here is persistent misogyny and
>  internalized homophobia. women and lesbians, in particular, still have
>  difficulty honoring our own accomplishments."
>  -margie adam, feminist musician quoted in "backstage pass" by laura post.
>  i say ig does comment on the support they've received from women-see
>  "indigo girls, live at the uptown lounge." they do also say that they don't
>  want to alienate men cause everyone is important. what does everyone else
>  think?
>

i swear, "no republicans here" is a title of an ig boot.  i really want a
copy (for that title alone!  lol!).  does anyone have a *good* copy of the
no republicans here boot?  we can trade, if you want!

:-) karen

ps- look in the sig for my boot page addy if you wanna trade!

ani difranco kicks off her fall tour at western new york's
           rochester's war memorial arena on september 25th, shortly
           after she headlines a benefit concert, this saturday, in
           berkeley, ca., which will take her to eugene, oregon, on
           october 19th. opening acts along the way include rachel sage,
           weeping tile, bob log iii, and drums & tuba. the righteous
           babe herself has a new album due out in early '99.

a complete list of tour dates for alanis morissette,
           juliana hatfield, pj harvey, and ani difranco are
           available at the zen site.
           http://www.zentertainment.com

had to giggle: ani defranco.

o, a bit of random ig realted something.  i worked part of the summer at a
girl scout camp (winacka rocks!).  we have a horse riding camp there.  we
get the horses loaned to us from random ranches.  but some of the horses
were branded wit ig!  i know the baning thing, i don't approve of it.  but
just thought i should tell y'all!

hugs and hershey kisses~
luna

okay ... i know...but i just have to share that i had to explain to my 75 year
old mother what a "hummer" was today.

she giggled and comented that most of the folks in washington are
probably hurrying home to try out the things they read about in the report.

i had no idea she was so frisky ;)

heh.
:)
blinky

last night on a local radio show called mad city live, they played a tape
of a concert at milwaukee's riverside theater from 12/8/97.  if you want to
see a setlist, it's near the bottom of my bootlist page:
http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/3349/boots.htm  i may be insanse
as i still haven't quite recovered from my acoustic cafe offer, but what
the hell.  if you want it, drop me a line.

---------------------------
sheryl jones
sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu
http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/3349/cooper.htm

installation tips for themes: <http://mcmsys.freethemes.com/install.htm>

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i am a simple soldier, not a reporter; but i thought a review worthy of what
was done
needed to be written. please let me know if you see it published in any of
the local papers.

marilyn

suffragette sessions tour:
a shelter from the storm

it is often the artist s role in america to lead us to social change.
watching the suffragettes
sessions tour travel from norfolk to philadelphia to new york, i got the
feeling that the concert
organizers intend to do just that.

amy ray and emily saliers of indigo girls put together a most unlikely group
of women
musicians. they were black, hispanic, oriental, white, northern, southern,
american, foreign,
straight, and gay. the music the suffragettes produced was as rich and
varied as the tapestry
of american life itself.

their tunes moved up and down the scale from gentle soul piercing melodies
to hard rock.
lisa germano s "way below the radio"  echoed like a half  forgotten  hymn.
you could  almost
see the prayers of many  in the audience combine as one and float to heaven
on lisa s beautiful voice.

at a time when a news journalist recently commented that we have become a
nation of liars,  amy ray
and thalia zadak  rocked the rafters for honesty.  gail ann dorsey s soulful
rendition of "midnight train
to georgia"  took me back to the civil rights movement in alabama  - george
wallace and forced
bussing - and a twelve year old boy who sat alone the classroom for a year
because he was black.
no one was alone on this stage.

in the end, what these women brought  us to is the american ideal of a world
founded on truth, justice,
and equality.  i have spent half of my adult life in foreign lands and on
foreign battlefields surrounded
by people who would give anything to be american.  from distant shores,
america is a beacon of
hope in a dark world, a land of plenty  where everyone has an equal chance.
as you get closer to
home,  you see that justice isn t always blind, and equal protection under
the laws doesn t apply
equally to everyone.

the suffragette sessions gave me an opportunity to reflect on my own small
role in the struggle for
equal rights for all.  i was one of the first women at notre dame, one of
the army s first female
paratroopers, and a veteran of six combat and humanitarian operations.  i
have lived under scuds,
slept in  frozen minefields, and jumpmastered planeloads of paratroopers at
night from 800 feet.

as a young captain, i worked passionately for the repeal of the combat
exclusion laws,
taking the case all the way to lieutenant general norman schwartzkopf.
women now fly
combat aircraft and command combat ships.

still, with every victory, there is always someone trying hard to turn back
the clock. let this be our
message to you. we will not go back. our ideals are stronger than your
injustice.

amy and emily, you have no idea how good it feels to know that all those
years i was away defending
the rights of others, you ve been here defending mine. may the world you
hope for become reality for
the young women in your audiences.

for all of us, there will be longer and harder and lonelier battles in the
months and years to come.
when weary, we will think back on the suffragette sessions tour and gain
strength in the kindred spirits
who came together for one bright shining moment.

suffragettes, this stuff you ve made, it s powerful. don t stop now.
thanks ya ll, for the 3 nights you
gave me shelter from the storm.

marilyn mcallister

lieutenant colonel

u.s. army

at 04:57 pm 9/13/98 , sarah t. rosenblum wrote:
>"there are many newcomers to the women's music network, but most of the
>performers don't relate to women's music and don't use the term. i observe
>that they use the network but simultaniously ridicule it. other muscicians
>refuse to acknowledge their roots of support in the network once they
>experience success overground. i am disgusted by this behavior. i'm
>thinking in particular of tracey chapman, the (sic) indigo girls, and
>melissa ethridge. what is operating here is persistent misogyny and
>internalized homophobia. women and lesbians, in particular, still have
>difficulty honoring our own accomplishments."
>-margie adam, feminist musician quoted in "backstage pass" by laura post.
>i say ig does comment on the support they've received from women-see
>"indigo girls, live at the uptown lounge." they do also say that they don't
>want to alienate men cause everyone is important. what does everyone else
>think?

i think margie is referring specifically to the "women's music" network,
not just the support of women in general.

melissa etheridge would play women's music festivals and bars and be very
open about her sexuality long before she acknowledged it outside of that
circle. and she very rarely mentions the role that those places played in
her success (or at the very least, for keeping her afloat until her island
contract came through), and doesn't play them any more. there, i think
margie at least has a leg to stand on.

not sure about tracy chapman's background, so can't comment.

otoh, ig never (to my knowledge) tried to market themselves specifically to
women or to lesbians, so i think her comments with respect for them are
simply off-base. she's probably pissed at them *because* they did it
without the help of the "network"!

--
deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo

here u got yet another thingh to spend yoru money on
http://www.musicblvd.com/cgi-bin/tw/2560112905781498_43_427873

sorry for the messed up format. i'll try again.

marilyn

suffragette sessions tour:
a shelter from the storm

it is often the artist s role in america to lead us to social change.
watching the suffragettes sessions tour travel from norfolk to
philadelphia to new york, i got the feeling that the concert organizers
intend to do just that.

amy ray and emily saliers of indigo girls put together a most unlikely group
of women musicians. they were black, hispanic, oriental, white, northern,
southern, american, foreign, straight, and gay. the music the suffragettes
produced was as rich and varied as the tapestry of american life itself.

their music moved up and down the scale from gentle soul piercing melodies
to hard rock. lisa germano s "way below the radio" echoed like a half
forgotten hymn. you could almost see the prayers of many in the
audience join as one and float to heaven on lisa s beautiful voice.

at a time when a news journalist recently commented that we have become a
nation of liars,  amy ray and thalia zadak  rocked the rafters for honesty.
gail ann dorsey s soulful rendition of "midnight train to georgia"  took me
back to the civil rights movement in alabama  - george wallace and forced
bussing - and a twelve year old boy who sat alone the classroom for a year
because he was black.   gail ann was certainly not alone on this stage.

in the end, what these women brought  us to is the american ideal of a world
founded on truth, justice, and equality.  i have spent half of my adult life
in foreign lands and on foreign battlefields surrounded by people who would
give anything to be american.  from distant shores, america is a beacon of
hope in a dark world, a land of plenty  where everyone has an equal chance.
as you get closer to home,  you see that justice isn t always blind, and
equal protection under the laws doesn t apply  equally to everyone.

the suffragette sessions gave me an opportunity to reflect on my own small
role in the struggle for equal rights for all. i was one of the first women
at notre dame, one of the army s first female paratroopers, and a veteran of
six combat and humanitarian operations. i have lived under scuds, slept in
frozen minefields, and jumpmastered planeloads of paratroopers at night
from 800 feet.

as a young captain, i worked passionately for the repeal of the combat
exclusion laws of 1945, taking the case all the way to lieutenant general
norman schwartzkopf. women now fly combat aircraft and command combat
ships.

still, with every victory, there is always someone trying hard to turn back
the clock. let this be our message to you. we will not go back. our
ideals are stronger than your injustice.

amy and emily, you have no idea how good it feels to know that all those
years i was away defending the rights of others, you ve been here defending
mine. may the world you hope for become real for the young women in your
audience.

for all of us, there will be longer and harder and lonelier battles in the
months and years to come. when weary, we will think back on the
suffragette sessions tour and gain strength in the kindred spirits who came
together for one bright shining moment.

suffragettes, this stuff you ve made, it s powerful. don t stop now.
thanks ya ll, for the 3 nights you gave me shelter from the storm.

marilyn mcallister

why is everyone so cranky? if you don't feel like talking about it, just
don't respond to the e-mail.

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date: mon, 14 sep 1998 11:35:09 -0400 (eastern daylight time)
from: k roberts <k_roberts1@salem.mass.edu>
subject: faye :)
sender: k roberts <k_roberts1@salem.mass.edu>
to: indigo@ncia.net

reply-to: k_roberts1@salem.mass.edu
message-id: <simeon.9809141109.b@42705.salem.mass.edu>

hey faye!
     how are you doing?  long time no hear.  i finally got
back on the list, this time i am on it at school where it is
much faster and it doesn't throw me off every two seconds!  i
wanted to formally thank-you for those pictures, that was
very nice of you to just give those to us.  i am soooo busy
this semester; i am taking 6 yes 6 classes and working 4 days
a week.  i imagine your schedule isn't much better.  jen is
fine and she says hi.  please keep in touch and take care of
yourself.
              love,
                kristin

-----------------------------------------
k roberts
email: k_roberts1@salem.mass.edu
salem state college

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-----------------------------------------
k roberts
email: k_roberts1@salem.mass.edu
salem state college

sorry for the nigc...

carrie h. - email me okay? thanks for the bootlegs! anybody got info on carrie's mountain stage boot? where is mountain stage? when was this recorded?

tara lane
**********************************
in clover
telane@rmond.mindspring.com
www.onsitenet.net/inclover

virgo
(aug. 23 -sept. 22)
a very good week for you, virgo. your ship could finally come in as
there is the chance of coming into a great deal of money in the near
future, from either an inheritance or maybe even the lottery. perhaps
some of your investments will finally pay off for you and you realize a
big return on your capital. a romance turns serious and you are planning
on wedding bells in a few weeks. your dreams may paint a beautiful
picture of your future and in the main they will be correct. one or two
dreams could carry warnings and these you should listen to.

here are the birthdays for the last 2 weeks!!!

september 7th
kemejets@aol.com (kristen)
"some things i hold too tightly, some things i'll never touch."

september 12 ('77)
cmdst30+@pitt.edu (christy diefenderfer)

september 12 ('69)
ccigfan@aol.com (cheri)
"say goodbye to a world where you cannot breathe
to hiding behind unfamiliar skin
to singing songs never knowing what they mean
now this is the way it was meant to be
be still and listen to the rising and falling
knowledge is power and i never knew me till now." --michelle malone

september 15 ('76)
creechal@aslan.emu.edu (chickensoprano)
"well there's always retrospect to light a clearer path
every 5 years or so i look back on my life and i have a good laugh..."

september 16 ('63)
klewis@msmail.is5.tch.tmc.edu (kris lewis)
"oh how i wish i were a trinity, so if i lost a part of me i'd still
have two of
the same to live"

september 17 ('76)
rudyburman@aol.com (ruthie)

* nomads*indians*saints, september 18 1990
if you would like to be added to the birthday list, please feel free to
email me at joanne.cusick@cexp.com. include your name, birthday, email
addy, and, if you like, a quote thingy, and i will add you!!!

much love to everyone,

joanne

"and she says losing love is like a window in your heart,
everybody sees you're blown apart,
everybody sees the wind blow"
paul simon

hey all,

the often informative deb wrote:
for a long time (even before the release of "1200 curfews"), fans called
the song "problem child," and you'll still see it called that on some
older bootlegs.

i would like to add that, actually, it wasn't just "fans" who created that
name for the song.  on the "live at the red light cafe" boot a couple
extra songs are included performed by amy at rainy day records on new
year's eve 1994.  this same performance is on the boot cd "early
recordings, volume 2: levees that break in my heart."  amy does a long
introduction to the song, which i've always greatly enjoyed.  i've
transcribed it for you:

"i'm working on this song, um, i'm gonna play this and then viva la diva's
gonna come play. um... i grew up... here and um... on my mom's side we're
about five generation's of southerners, and we all have a sort of a
independent attitude. i've tried real hard to, to quiet myself my whole
life, and i've decided in the last couple of years not to. <laughs>
i thought i was loud before, but, now i'm really loud. so, i'm starting
this song about, it's called, problem child, about, um... celebration.
but it's, uh, kind of a mellow song right now, actually, because i'm
playing acoustic."

today's "go" is much different, we all know.  very little of "problem
child" remains... basically just the chorus.  to me, it's really not even
the same song, though...  the basic idea is still the same, with the same
choruses and all... but, the focus has shifted from amy herself outwards
to the high school "protesters," etc.

well, that's all i wanted to say, for now...

peace, melissa

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand-a.r.

i am in search of a ss boot that is "better" quality...meaning you can hear
the music. anyone got one? please help.

thanks
erin sue

in a message dated 9/14/98 11:04:05 am central daylight time,
listserv@netspace.org writes:

> okay ... i know...but i just have to share that i had to explain to my 75
> year
>  old mother what a "hummer" was today.
>
>  she giggled and comented that most of the folks in washington are
>  probably hurrying home to try out the things they read about in the report.
>
>  i had no idea she was so frisky ;)
>
>  heh.
>  :)
>  blinky

hey all,

i just want to share that this is probably the most disgusting post i had ever
read!! :)

brian

you know are obsessed with the girls when your advanced composition
teacher tells you to write a personal essay beginning with the words "i
remember" and all you can think of are a bunch of cats on fire with
gasoline in a burning spiral while you are standing underneath the
night. oh, yeah i was fighting back with all my might, too.
lynz

i heard on a date the other night....ahh...and what a date it
was...thats a whole other story....*sigh*...that the ig either sing on
one of the tracks for the movie philadelphia or that one of their songs
are on it....anyone know anything about this??

btw...i know she wont be getting this but this doesnt mean i wont be
wanting to put in my application for jill's fall fling.......*wink*

*floating on with my day*...

-kim

hi guys..

i had to add one.. there's a new housing development here, over in
highland's ranch, co (total scary suburbia land) called "indigo
hills.."
for a second, i thought about moving..

bye..

jo anne

thanks to all who have answered my question..now...part 2....anyone know
the words???

(my date said that that was "her song"....im curious to know)

thanks in advance if anyone can help

-kim

the girls do a cover of "i don't wanna talk about it" on the philadelphia
soundtrack. it's excellent.

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yep. they sing "i don't wanna talk about it" when tom hanks is on the phone
with his mother--the song is on the radio. it's on the phili sound track.

on mon, 14 sep 1998, cusick, joanne - aurora, co wrote:

> i had to add one.. there's a new housing development here, over in
> highland's ranch, co (total scary suburbia land) called "indigo
> hills.."
> for a second, i thought about moving..

well, hey, for about two minutes after i read this, i started
pondering the costs and complications of uprooting and moving from
hollyweird, california . . . ;)

um...what was the song they did/performed?
*is clueless*

--audra

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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

*****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
- kristen hall "just so you know"

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hkf's,

everyone's heard of indigo hills - as in the wine!?!  i think it's from
california, so it can't be that great anyhow - (hehe)...  i bought this one
time as a gift b/c not only the name is awesome, the label is kind of cool
too!  i think you can get all the normal flaves for this - chard, cab sauv,
merlot, & i think another too.

also, i saw something in a boston candle shop - it was called indigo glass!
it was small candle holders made from recycled glass. it was a clear glass
thingy, with the broken pieces of recycled glass (blue, green...) inside it,
so when you put your candle in the middle, it would glow real cooly-like.

8-)
a+e=ig

i just got this album in the mail today from daemon records (and that
amazing august blowout sale) and i already love it...and again emily sings
back up and does some back up instrumentation on a couple tracks ("it's
allright" and "fade away blind")...i just thought i would share. be
thankful i waited and calmed down before i posted or i would have been
screaming (in cathedrals? *heh*) :)

that is all...except now i am plotting to get kh's thumbprints, a
collection of boots and demos :)

--audra

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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

*****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
- kristen hall "just so you know"

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i don't wanna talk about it

i can tell by your eyes
that you've probably been crying forever
and the stars in the sky
don't mean nothing to you they're a mirror
i don't wanna talk about it
how you broke my heart
if i stay here just a little bit longer
if i stay here won't you listen to my heart
my heart

if i stand all alone
will the shadows hide the color of my heart
will they be blue for the tears
black for the nights we spent apart
and the stars don't mean nothing to you
they're a mirror
i don't wanna talk about it
how you broke my heart
oh if i stay, if i stay here
won't you listen to my heart

i don't wanna talk about it
how you broke my heart
if i stay, if i stay here just a little bit longer
if i stay here won't you listen to my heart
if i stand all alone
will the shadows hide the colors of my heart

words and music danny whitten
copyright crazy horse music (bmi)

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ive finally had one...ok i work in a very coutri-fried area in
southwestern virginia...and a little college boy called up here at work
for some help...and had closer to fine playing in the background...so i
figured he was living with some women...i asked if it was his
stereo...and he said ...yup ma'am it is...so i complimented him on his
music tastes....... and smiled to myself...

i was walking down franklin street (the main street of chapel hill) with my
friend, and we were kinda window shopping - we stopped into a candles-incense-
beads kind of store, and what do i see but earrings, brand name indigo! so i
flip over the holder, "to see the shiny toy i'd been hoping for, the one i
never can afford". i just about cry my eyes out, while my friend is trying to
figure out why i would want these not-so-special (she thinks) earrings in the
first place. she wouldn't understand. :-)
then, we are window shopping again, and we walk by light years (an interesting
jewelry kind of store). so i simply *must* stop and *at least* have a look-
see(don'tcha love it?!?). and, surprise, there is a pair of earrings whose
brand *coincidentally* (ya think?) is *emily ray*. you can imaine my
excitement, until i rummage through the store, only to find no trace of said
earrings actually inside! :-( and my poor confused friend.....*sigh*.

okay, enough with the masterpiece theatre-ey dialect. :-) hee hee. bye!
::swish::

peace.eri

> i already love it...and again emily sings
hey y'all. i just got this the other day from daemon, and it's a
great album. i recommend it. erin :)

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hey everyone-

if you are into swing and haven't bought this cd yet, go out and get
it....it is great. lots of rhythm and groovy tunage.

peace-

karrie

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{ mercenaries of the shrine, now who are you to speak for god?}
{   with haughty eyes and lying tongues and hands that shed   }
{                        innocent blood?                      }
{   who delivered you the power, to interpret calvary?        }
{  you gamble away our freedom to gain your own authority.    }
{                                       -amy ray              }
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i need help with this too!!

*hugs*

lamia
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ok -

anyone mind taking a moment to fill me in?

thanks!
sunny - who wishes she just *knew* how to do it all...

==
"it's like ya know how ya go to the zoo and then ya realize all the
animals are in cages...that's what this song is about. it's about not
wanting to die...called world falls." --amy ray--

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ps on that-
the wavs for the one i downloaded are all too slow..and the girls sound
really really weird....any ideas on how to fix this?

*hugs*

lamia

"i got enough indigo to wash away my heart..."
--emm gryner

"you just dropped your bomb like blood on tuesday night.
like everyone else you found a pretty face,
and you're all set for life..."
--emm gryner, acid

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yuppers, i know... i had a counselor and fellow church member all 4 years in
high school named emily ray... i just laugh thinking ab the days when i used
to believe that amy and emily were together :) ha!

peace,
troop

has anyone been at any of the spitfire tour dates, esp. the ones w/amy?
what's the set up? any info about other colleges? (yes, i know about the
website, i'm just in the mood for unfounded conjecture.)

hey y'all!

this is kinda a cute story.

okay, so last friday i was sitting in my japanese history class.  we had a
paper due.  our professor is really cool and has an awesome sense of humor
and knows that it's okay to joke around a little in class.  so he was like
"did you like writing your papers?" i looked back at him and said
"ummmm...no, sorry."  then he goes "well, karen only enjoys one thing --
going to indigo girls concerts.  she even cancelled an amnesty
international meeting because she had to go see them!" (okay okay, i am
president of amnesty and i cancelled one exec (like 4 people) meeting to
see the sst in cincy on a sunday night.  and he only knows this because he
is our adviser for amnesty...).  anyway, it was quite funny because i knew
that he knows me kinda well (from amnesty, plus at a small college, the
profs know everyone), but i expected a comment to come from my japanese
language prof who knows damn well about my obsession (i happily tried to
explain to her how i have the hots for amy while showing her my 2 rolls of
film from one show...), not my history prof.  but i guess everyone knows
that i am obsessed with the indigo girls (plus i have to send campus wide
e-mails all the time (about amnesty and our womyn's group) so i guess
people see the signature...

love,
karen :-)

i just bought kristen hall's "watch out what you wish for" cd and it is so
awesome!! i luv emily's background on the compass song. she is the bomb!
ok, just my thoughts.
jeri

hiya! don't know if any of y'all remember me or not, but i was a listee about
a year and a half ago. just wanted to say i'm back! it feels good to be
home. :)

dawn

i sent my previous one to a non-list friend who i always joke with about
indigo girls references and he sent me this:

you know you're obsessed with the girls when everytime you pick up the
phone and there are no messages you say, "who loves us? nobody."

lynz

*rotfls* i say that "who loves us? nobody!" all the time with my one
friends, regardless of what's going on: no messages, no email...anything
*hehehe* i thought we were the only nuts that did that :)

--audra

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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

*****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
- kristen hall "just so you know"

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okay--nominations for the cutest comment from emily and/or amy. my emily
nomination--
at the indianapolis lilith fair 1998, after singing "ghost" emily said,
very sing-songily and tongue and cheek, "thank you for listening to that
tender ballad." i'll think of an amy submission later.

*gigglefits* i gotta mention emily's "a big ass bug just flew in my
eye...i think it's living there." from bethlehem musikfest :)

--audra

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"you cover my eyes with your deepness * you wrap my soul in the beauty
of it all * you take me away from my incompleteness * lead me all the
way or not at all..." - amy ray "clues to you"

*****

"just so you know, there's a space that only you can fill
just so you know, i loved you then, i guess i always will."
- kristen hall "just so you know"

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and who could forget the infamous indigo bar in new york city. they even
have a drink called an "a&e"--it's damn good!!!!

l'sly

audra said.....
>*rotfls* i say that "who loves us? nobody!" all the time with my one
>friends, regardless of what's going on: no messages, no
email...anything
>*hehehe* i thought we were the only nuts that did that :)
oh, and there are more!!
sarah & i said that *all* the time last year...mostly about e-mails when
it said "no new messages" but also when ther were no messages or mail in
our box.  we even had it as our scrolling screensaver for awhile.....
i don't think we've said it too much this year, but i think i'll
resurrect it....
oh, and i've located lizzy, who had the bumperstickers made.  i think
you can write me & i'll give ya her address.  shes not signed onto the
list right now.  she's got around 50 left.....
a + e = ig
i want to tell everyone to watch u of mich this saturday at 1 cuz my
school (eastern mich) is playing them, and we're really bad, in fact
we've played them 5 times since 1896 & we've never scored!!  anyway, i
know they don't show the band often...but look for me, i'm the shortish
female silver trombone player.  we'll be the green & white band......
i *know* there was something else...but i just can't remember it
anymore....
oh well,
  carol

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does anyone have any info on dar williams tour dates or album release dates?

how about the time on the demo tour in santa fe when a lightning storm
began...bolts were flying everywhere, and at one point a well-placed strike
shut the whole amphitheater down. of course, jerry and sara and the girls
kept on going with no electrical power.

but anyway, the cute moment...amy says, "well, we're learning to play some
new instruments...most of them metal..." it was funny.

justin

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