lifeblood: listlogs: 1999-03b


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date:         sun, 7 mar 1999 19:25:46 est
reply-to:     sissookie@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kathleen mccrea <sissookie@aol.com>
subject:      new songs
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hey everyone...

sitting here.. half out of my mind with the seasonal flu. i've been
hallucinating about what new songs we know about and expect to see on the new
cd.

i came up with a list of 8 amy tunes (that hopefully will be on the new cd)

1. sister
2. go
3. gone again
4  oh, osalyn (some might think it's rosalyn)
5. the boys just laugh
6. *mining song (* title not know taken from lyrics.performed 12/27 at eddies)
7. *the weekends (* title not know taken from lyrics.performed 12/27 at
eddies)
8.  faye tucker

now.. am i missing anything..

ok.. i'm done.. time to self medicate.... (oh the joy of modern
pharmaceuticals!)

peace
kathleen

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date:         sun, 7 mar 1999 22:30:34 est
reply-to:     indigobabs@aol.com
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from:         barbara todd <indigobabs@aol.com>
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"here is calm so deep, grasses cease waving ... wonderful how completely
everything in the wild nature fits into us, as if truly part and parent of
us.  the sun shines not on us, but in us.  the rivers flow not past, but
through us, thrilling, tingling, vibrating every fiber and cell of the
substance of our bodies, making them glide and sing."

           john muir

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 00:11:33 -0500
reply-to:     sarah wardrop <swardrop@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
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from:         sarah wardrop <swardrop@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
subject:      clash tribute blurb (igc)
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this was in friday morning quarterback (a radio trade mag) a couple of
weeks ago.  anyone know of the definite release date?  march or may?
anyway . . .


'clash tribute scheduled for next month

the clash tribute album is now set for march 16.  'burning london' features
third eye blind doing "train in vain," ice cube and mack 10 on "should i
stay or should i go," "clampdown" by the indigo girls, silverchair doing
"london's burning," afghan whigs' "lost in the supermarket" and other
tracks by no doubt and rancid among the total of 13.  amy ray commented
that hearing the clash
brought her back to "the activism of early folk and the organic political
movements that exist through music, throughout time, regardless of genre."
she added, "i thought, okay, the '60s don't have a monopoly on politicized
music, they never did."  proceeds from the album go to the children's
hospital of los angeles high risk youth program.'

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 00:11:47 est
reply-to:     wishmonstr@aol.com
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from:         "e. moranian bolles, the badass lchrn la" <wishmonstr@aol.com>
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i'm going to cover a variety of topics:

#1 ~ i don't really think it's inappropriate to wonder how emily's sister
died, but at the same time don't think it's our place to go searching.  so,
how about everyone keeps an ear and an eye open?  if someone hears something,
they post it, but no one goes digging?  sound good?

#2 ~ do we know that the letter is real?  no one seems to be questioning the
accuracy of the statement it was sent to a friend of amy's and has been
fowarded blah blah blah . . . just because someone posts it doesn't mean it's
true.

#3 ~ would they really put faye tucker on an album?  i like it, but it seems
like a hidden track at best . . .

#4 ~ the absolute highlight of my weekend was meeting a guy from athens, ga.
i'm such a loser.

#5 ~ for the record, i'm truly upset about the death of emily's sister.  it's
hard to imagine the pain of losing a loved one from the immediate circle if
you haven't, and even if you have it's hard to apply it to other people.  all
we can do now, though, is hope the living will be alright.  mostly, for most
of us, emily.  screw the music; so long as emily is able to come away from
this in one peice, then on a human level i'm happy.  the reality is this makes
likely the new album being pushed back, possibly to an undetermined date.
maybe the best thing we can do, if that ends up as the case, is not whine.
and if this doesn't disrupt our precious fandom, well then that's a good thing
and we should all be happy em could work through this time of great pain.

~ emb

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date:         sun, 7 mar 1999 22:13:44 -0700
reply-to:     115_17@asu.edu
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from:         viva de milagro <115_17@asu.edu>
subject:      re: new songs
x-to:         kathleen mccrea <sissookie@aol.com>
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hey, don't forget "chiapas bound" by amy and "winthrop" and "soon to be
nothing" by emily

viva de milagro

on sun, 7 mar 1999, kathleen mccrea wrote:
> hey everyone...
>
> sitting here.. half out of my mind with the seasonal flu. i've been
> hallucinating about what new songs we know about and expect to see on the new
> cd.
>
> i came up with a list of 8 amy tunes (that hopefully will be on the new cd)
>
> 1. sister
> 2. go
> 3. gone again
> 4  oh, osalyn (some might think it's rosalyn)
> 5. the boys just laugh
> 6. *mining song (* title not know taken from lyrics.performed 12/27 at eddies)
> 7. *the weekends (* title not know taken from lyrics.performed 12/27 at
> eddies)
> 8.  faye tucker
>
> now.. am i missing anything..
>
> ok.. i'm done.. time to self medicate.... (oh the joy of modern
> pharmaceuticals!)
>
> peace
> kathleen
>
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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 01:54:27 est
reply-to:     tahmehawk@aol.com
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from:         lynn van fossen <tahmehawk@aol.com>
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in a message dated 99-03-08 00:13:39 est, wishmonstr@aol.com writes:

<< i don't really think it's inappropriate to wonder how emily's sister
died, but at the same time don't think it's our place to go searching.  so,
how about everyone keeps an ear and an eye open?  if someone hears something,
they post it, but no one goes digging?  sound good?
  >>

not to get flamed or anything, but the following was posted on one of the aol
ig message boards this afternoon.  this is all i'll bring up regarding this
subject.

<<a brief article in the atlanta journal constitution mentioned that carrie
saliers appears to have died of natural causes on tuesday, march 2nd, and that
in the past carrie had a history of depression and anorexia nervosa. the
atlanta journal constitution also mentioned that she'd recently suffered from
"flu-like" symptoms.>>

lynn  :-)    <a href="http://members.aol.com/tahmehawk/home.html">tahmehawk's
place</a>

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date:         sun, 7 mar 1999 23:47:32 pst
reply-to:     rancorous spice <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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><<...the atlanta journal constitution mentioned that carrie
>saliers appears to have died...>>

(this is not a flame on anyone.  i just want you to think it over.)
guys, please. please don't post this stuff.
*please* don't.
no matter if you go 'digging' for it, stumble across it, not even if it
was posted "publicly" somewhere already and you're just relaying the
info.  do you think we ought to perpetuate the media-driven privacy
invasion that, say, aol is shamelessly committing?

this is not our business, not our place.
we have neither right nor reason to do this.

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 09:35:40 est
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from:         claire johnson <mmedido@aol.com>
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in a message dated 99-03-07 19:02:03 est, you write:

<< members of the indigo girls mailing list,
this letter was received by a friend of amy ray
and forwarded to the saliers' family attorney
because of it's suspicious nature.  please refrain ... blah, blah, blah ...
>>

drama queens.... like a 'friend of a.ray ' is really going to recieve
an upstetting email that gets sent to attorneys then
post it in it's entirety to the friggin' indigo girls mailing list.

whatever with that, sounds like a clumsy attempt to get around the
'no personal life' rule.

way too much free time.

we now return you to boot trading and recording news (please)....
:)
claire

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 11:13:37 -0800
reply-to:     "a. taub" <alisont@netcom.com>
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from:         "a. taub" <alisont@netcom.com>
subject:      re: suspicious letter
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folks, what is going on here?

> date:    sat, 6 mar 1999 16:21:20 -0800
> from:    friend of aray <chiapas19@yahoo.com>
> subject: suspicious letter
>
> members of the indigo girls mailing list,
> this letter was received by a friend of amy ray
> and forwarded to the saliers' family attorney
> because of it's suspicious nature.  please refrain
> from sending any mail that may be upsetting to
> emily, amy or their families during this difficult time.
> thank you.  letter follows:

etc.....

who is "friend of aray chiapas19@yahoo.com" and why are they posting this
on the list???

if this really were a private communication to someone that got passed on
to an attorney, no one would have told them to post the suspicious
message to some public-access e-mail list.

is this message even for real?

someone else said ...

> without being a member, that being said, here is your proof that what we
> discuss on this list can and does get back to amy & emily.  show a little

how do you figure that??? the "suspicous letter"  didn't come from the
list and what evidence is there it even came from a list member?  if
anything, this is proof that a message sent to some friend of amy or
emily's can end up on the list, not the other way around. and their
friends would have to be idiots to handle threatening messages that way,
so it seems very unlikely to be the case.

frankly, unless there is a lot more clarification or explanation, this
looks like some holier-than-thou list person trying to force the list to
comply with her "i said don't talk about this" attitude by posting a
faked message.

don't forget, anyone can get a free yahoo account.

well, i'll be happy to apologize if there is clarification to show i'm
wrong...


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variations of sleep that i have discovered would amaze you."
        max, at http://www.gil.com.au/~majajas/max.html

alison  -  alisont@netcom.com

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 14:34:36 +0000
reply-to:     j lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>
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from:         j lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>
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hi folks,

a small favor to ask of everyone...

please, take the suspicious letter topic to private email.

i am investigating the source and authenticity of the note and when (or if)
i receive an answer, i will let everyone know.

but regardless of the origin and intent of the forwarded letter, please
take the discussion to private email.

thank you.

jen lucero
ig list co-owner

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 16:43:10 -0800
reply-to:     samantha zeiss <indigo1008@yahoo.com>
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well, just wanted to send out an email to get everyone's minds off the
letter (which is obviously fake) and em's sis.
  a question for everyone - i don't think this one has been asked
lately.
  what ig song did you hear first before becoming a fan?
  mine would have to be shame on you.  my best friend played it for me
a year ago this month, and i've been hooked since.
  hope everyone's doing well.
  later -

steph


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- melissa etheridge
i don't wanna talk about it, how you broke my heart.  if i stay here just a little bit longer, if i stay here won't you listen to my heart - indigo girls
i mock you with my monkey pants!! - oz


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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 19:46:07 -0500
reply-to:     rebecca lyon <beccie@websunshine.com>
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bravo chicka!!!!!

the first ig song that i ever heard? hmmm lets see, i think it was closer to
fine....but the first album i ever bought and listened to that got me hooked
was swamp ophelia......
hey another one, you guys remember that question a while back that i posted
about
"what ig song would you like to make love to?" i hope that all of you guys
got your responses posted, because i am trying to record a new boot, i want
to call it the sexual healing boot, (yes joan darlin it is going to happen)
if you haven't sent in your fav songs there is still time...post them soon
and i will begin taping...make sure to specify which version...i will tally
the votes and begin from there.......

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
peace love and light

beccie lyon

within our hands is the power to change the world....
even if it is only used to touch one shoulder in support
or love  it is our destiny to change the world in that way.....

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 19:51:42 -0500
reply-to:     mbpost@ibm.net
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from:         mary post <mbpost@ibm.net>
subject:      nigc:  newark delaware/wilmington/philly
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hi everyone,
are there any listee's from the area's above who could clue me and my
partner in on safe housing and apartments?  we need to move at the
beginning of the summer.
thanks,
mary
email me at mbpost@ibm.net

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 20:25:21 -0500
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in honor of international women's day, i just wanted to post something
that is totally nigc, but relavant to today.

i fight like a girl

i fight like a girl.
i fight like a girl who refuses to be a victim.
i fight like a girl who's tired of being ignored and humored and beaten
     and raped.
i fight like a girl who's sick of not being taken seriously.
i fight like a girl who's been pushed too far.
i fight like a girl who offers and demands respect.
i fight like a girl who has a lifetime of anger and strength and pride
     pent up in her girl body.
i fight like a girl who doesn't believe in fear and submission.
i fight like a girl who knows that this body and this mind are mine.
i fight like a girl who knows that you only have as much power as i
     grant you.
i fight like a girl who will never allow you to take more than i offer.
i fight like a girl who fights back.
so, next time you think you can distract yourself from your
insecurities by victimizing a girl, think again.  she may be me and i
fight like a girl.

                               -stephanie

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 17:39:41 -0800
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hey all!

the first song i heard before coming a fan was least complicated.  i
was in eighth grade and i have been hooked since.  the first ig album
i bought was least complicated.  i won a gift certificate for a cd at
contest in school, and that is the one i picked.  and now i have every
one!

-di


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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 20:50:33 est
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        first song that got me hooked:  ctf in '89.  a friend of mine made me a tape
of all this dance music, which is what we always listened to back then, and
the last song she put on the tape was closer to fine.  i loved it and went out
and bought self titled ig and 2 days after that i bought sf.  never looked
back after that.  hallelujah

jennifer

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 21:13:36 -0500
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the first ig song i heard was closer to fine, probably 6 years ago.  actually, i heard it first by someone playing it on her guitar at a summer camp.  i
loved it when she sang it, so i asked to borrow the album (the self-titled one), and i was instantly in love with the indigo's. =)

sharon

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 21:27:20 est
reply-to:     carol petricevic <chickenwomyn@hotmail.com>
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hmmm, first song definately came before getting hooked.  i first heard
galileo in like 7th grade....
i didn't buy an ig album til right after my senior year....
i saw galileo on vh-1....
loved it....
loved hearing ig a few times on the radio in the so days....
happy first time i heard soy on the radio right when it came out....
happy when jill bought me a ticket for ig at blossom music center....
finally hooked....
stupid stupid carol

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 09:15:15 -0500
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we've got the following items for sale. these costs do not include $3.50 for
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available, there's only one of each item listed).

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indigo girls "1200 curfews" australian release                     $25.00
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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 21:52:27 est
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i heard closer to fine at camp circa 1993, but that didn't hook me.
then i bought the boys on the side soundtrack in 7th grade, and i really like
power of two, but bmg didn't sell ig stuff and it wasn't a top priority.
then, back at camp in 1996, i borrowed my friend's self titled tape . . . so,
i guess closer to fine hooked me in the end.  what can i say?

~ emb

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 21:18:13 -0600
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samantha zeiss wrote:

>   what ig song did you hear first before becoming a fan?

power of two, on the boys on the side soundtrack
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~~tigger
high priestess of amyism
wordsmith and taleweaver
*********
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but never really pray without surrender.
  ~~neil peart
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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 22:28:01 est
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hey y'all~
        i would just like to take a moment of your precious time and babble for a
minute... last night i saw the tour "cry, cry cry" with dar williams, lucy
kaplansky, and richard shindell. it was such a good concert! i was totally
awed by the quality of this show. if it ever goes near you guys take the
opportunity to see it! after the concert i hung around for about 15 min. then
i actually met dar, lucy, and richard. i talked to dar for about 10 minutes
(until the twenty or so people milling around actually noticed she was out)
then she signed some stuff. but the concert overall was just great! there were
i believe 3 encore performances and the songs were just awesome! definitely go
if you have the chance! michelle, it was awesome meeting you... maybe i'll see
you somewhere again, who knows, maybe at an indigo girls concert somewhere!
well, gotta go.
peace y'all!
~alyssa

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 20:48:11 -0700
reply-to:     machado <lorene@flylive.com>
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wendy bucklew says of michelle malone:  "some of us come into the world
screaming, michelle must have popped out singing in perfect pitch acapella -
truly born to sing."  michelle says of wendy:  "wendy's one of my favorite
artists.  i love her voice, her songs, her style.  it moves me down in my
soul."  next week, wendy and michelle join forces for sandy shore's "crush
tour."  here are the confirmed dates:

monday, march 15th:  coco club, 139 eighth street, san francisco,
(415)626-2337, doors open at 7:30pm, $8, 21 and over

wednesday, march 17th:  genghis cohen cantina, 740 n. fairfax ave, los
angeles, (213) 653-0640, $10, all ages, janet robin opens, (what better way
to celebrate st. patrick's day than in a chinese restaurant?  "everything's
gonna be alright!")

friday, march 19th:  black box at cal state university monterey, monterey,
8pm, $10 in advance, $12 at the door, call sandy shore productions for
information, (831) 649-1223 or go to http://www.smoothjazz.com, or e-mail
ssp@smoothjazz.com

saturday, march 20th:  winter's opera house, 13 main street, winters,
ca,(530) 795-4220, 8pm, $12, all ages

there are shows pending for march 16th and 18th, and those will be posted to
wendy and michelle's websites.  if you're not in california, don't fret.
wendy and michelle will also be sharing stages in the southeast in april.
check wendy's website:  http://songs.com/wendy or michelle's website:
http://www.michellemalone.com for updated info.

what can you expect from these shows?  well, michelle says, "maybe i'll
bring along some georgia red clay and we can throw it all over the stage and
pretend we're back in atlanta playing and singing and carrying on!" wendy
sums it up, "come out and party with us!"

please get in touch with us at machado@flylive.com if you'd like to help us
hang flyers in these areas.  we'll send you a signed wendy bucklew poster in
exchange for your help.
alrighty then, thanks for your support.  hope to see you out there.

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 23:42:48 est
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well, i must say that i first heard the indigo girls in 1990 over a phone call
with a friend of mine. we were talking long distance and she had to make me
listen to this music, i really wasn't interested, she was upset that i didn't
like them as much as she did. (boy was i stupid!)

when i first became obsessed with the girls it was certainly by accident. i
had borrowed the "boys on the side" cd strictly for mle's song "i take you
with me" that was the only reason i wanted that cd. one day at work after
playing it 2 million times (the obsessed nature i have) the cd ran long, and
low and behold i heard these voices. my best friend and i sing together, and
once i heard those voices i knew we could sing them. i played the song over
and over and wrote down all the words (some of which i got very wrong) lol !!
i learned amy's part i think in a matter of hours. that was the beginning of
an incredible obsession that i wouldn't give up for anything! now we
practically sing them all! it is the greatest thing that i have experienced in
a long time. there is nothing like singing those soothing songs and those
passionate ones! talk about release!
thank goodness for the boys on the side cd!
~k

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 23:46:57 -0500
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        galileo. all the way. i was at spec (i.e. prospective student)
weekend september of my senior year in high school and the bryn mawr night
owls performed an a cappella version which was absolutely breathtaking
(and still is!) i went home and bought myself a copy of strange fire,
which (oddly enough) was the only ig cd in stock at border's at the time.
        and the rest is history....
        mandy


        "we're bound to get weirder as the night progresses."
                                -emily saliers, nc chapel hill, nov. 1987

        "no ancient greek on the bus."
                                -eilis monahan

        "hick pride! it's kinda like gay pride, except we have shotguns!"
                                -darius wei

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my first was on the radio in 1989, "hammer and a nail".  as soon as i heard
it , i thought this was the freshest sound i have heard in a long time!!  it
was so solid and soulfull, i knew i was totally hooked from that 1st tune!
peace
carrie


>  what ig song did you hear first before becoming a fan?

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i should add that the 1st cd that i ran out to get was nis and i have
followed them through the debut of every albumn they have done since then.
carrie


>my first was on the radio in 1989, "hammer and a nail".  as soon as i heard
>it , i thought this was the freshest sound i have heard in a long time!!
it
>was so solid and soulfull, i knew i was totally hooked from that 1st tune!
>peace
>carrie
>
>
>>  what ig song did you hear first before becoming a fan?
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the first ig song i ever heard was ctf (i think that we have heard this
before), but anyway...  i first heard ctf when my sister played it for me when
i was in the 6th grade.  i immediately picked up my guitar and taught myself
how to play it.  i have never been the same since.  i also must thank justin..
our cool list member, because he was dating my sister and was one of the
people that introduced that music to my older sister who in turn introduced me
to ig and rem.  i truly think justin shumaker is the coolest guy i know...  i
was hooked after one listen.  the only reason it was ctf was because it was
the first song on indigo girls...  it could have just as easily been any of
the other songs.
arin

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date:         mon, 8 mar 1999 23:39:44 -0800
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wow, someone just sent me the url to this website where someone has
made music videos of various songs using footage from xena.  one of the
videos is a montage about xena's search for redemption, using "world
falls!"  it's very well done, i think; granted, you have to know the show
to understand a lot of the reasons for the clips used (i.e. the footage
used for "and i woke up in the middle of a dream" is taken from an episode
called "dreamworker," which takes place in a dream landscape), but it's
still probably worthwhile.  it's in realvideo format, download only (no
streaming, which is probably better 'cause streaming video quality is
kinda bad).  the url for the website is

http://206.184.159.64/xena/flix.html

if you want to check it out.  ;)

(this coming from shanie, whose ig obsession is matched only by her xena
obsession, and who recently was crazy enough to write a story about amy
and emily being xena and gabrielle reincarnated . . . any guesses as to
which song played a prominent role in the story? :p  hey, i couldn't help
it . . . after that reincarnation episode three weeks ago . . .)

        screaming in cathedrals,
        shanie
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* "a long time ago, i accepted the consequences of our life together, that
it might one day come to this.  it has.  i'm not afraid."
* "you've always said that i was the brave one.  look at you now.  if this
is to be our destiny, let's see it out together."
        -- gabrielle and xena, in "one against an army"

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first song?

well, that must have been "hammer and a nail", some time around late 1990.
one rare occasion when german radio played real good music. i bought the cd
the next day and i remember standing in front of the stereo for days in a
row, doing a rather embarrassing guitar pantomime. ;-)

britta

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when god made me born a german he was teasin' ...  ;-)
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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 08:25:45 +330
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hi everybody
i'd like you to help me....
i've been looking for a girl whose abilities,technical information of
internet,qualificatons etc. would fascinate me every day.
owing to i'm so eager, that would be nice to possess a lovely
relationship with a girl for ever, through email.
i would appreciate if you could give me some email addresses that i requsted
such a wish above.
sorry this is not such a pretty letter.
please accept my sincerest thanks and apology for inconvenience.
love,
         saeid vaezi
         vaezi_sa@net1cs.modares.ac.ir

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first song . . . hmmm.  well, okay, i'll admit it.  it was "shame on you"
date: mon, 15 mar 1999 14:04:01 +0000
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back in the summer of 1997.  i'm *such* a relative newbie . . . but hey,
that song snagged me and ever since then i could only get more obsessed .
. .  *grin*

        screaming in cathedrals,
        shanie
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it might one day come to this.  it has.  i'm not afraid."
* "you've always said that i was the brave one.  look at you now.  if this
is to be our destiny, let's see it out together."
        -- gabrielle and xena, in "one against an army"

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wow.... first song.....

well, i guess the first tme i ever really heard about the ig was when i went to see boys on the side - i asw them playing in a couple of scenes and i remember really liking the music (on the other hand, i saw that movie back when it was first released, so my love of the ig may be colouring my memory somewhat....)

anyway the first song i ever heard by them as closer to fine, and after that i brought 4.5 (yeah, for anybody who doesn't know, i'm english, so it was fairly easy for me to get the cd), after that, swamp ophelia, and i was hooked......

john.

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from the sycophant mailing list <sycophant@smoe.org>:

lisa germano is set to go on tour with the latin playboys. the playboys
(consisting of los lobos members david hildago and louie perez with
mitchell froom and tchad blake) recently released their excellent
(though short) album, "dose," on 3/2. check locally for confirmations:

               3/24 @ aerospace/seattle, wa ($15)
               3/25 @ the aladdin theatre/portland, or ($15/$17)
               3/27 @ the catalyst/santa cruz, ca ($15/$17)
               3/28 @ bimbo's 365 club/san francisco, ca ($18)
               3/30 @ the belly up tavern/solana beach, ca ($14)
               3/31 @ the galaxy theatre/santa ana, ca ($16.50)
               4/1 @ the hollywood athletic club/los angeles, ca
               (tickets go on sale 3/11; $22.50/$24.00)
               4/9 @ la zona rosa/austin, tx
               4/10 @ the gypsy tea room/dallas, tx
               4/11 @ the mountain stage/charleston, wv
               4/13 @ the 9:30 club/washington, d.c. ($15)
               4/14 @ the tla/philadelphia, pa
               4/15 @ tramps/new york/ny
               4/16 @ the paradise theatre/boston, ma
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closer to fine.  had the album it was on for years but never listened to
anything but that.  then somehwere in my travels i dubbed a copy of rop
but never listened to it.  just did it cause i thought she was cute.
then, i saw them at lilith in 97...and i was a goner.  i didn't know half
the music (at that point i had heard shame on you, and had made sure to
listen to the two albums i had before lilith) but their performance swept
me away.  that was in august.  i made plans to go see them again one
month, 3 days later.  in between that time i picked up strange fire, back
on the bus y'all, shaming of the sun, and swamp ophelia *heh* i had the
best time.  but i will always remember dragging that tape out, listening
to ctf, not really knowng why i was drawn to them, and refusing to listen
to more until i knew why...and knowing now it's because they are
irresistable :)

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hey everyone........

lurking throughout some of the questions posed........

1.  the ig song that got me hooked:   welcome me, way back in my college
days...i was  travelling with my lacrosse team all over the east coast, and on
long drives we had buses with the vcr and tv screens, and one of my teammates
brought along live at the uptown on a trip, and of all the good stuff, it was
the
welcome me video/song, that really caught my attention, little did i know at
the
time, i'd have to wait another year to get the song on a studio album.........
the rest is all indigo history..........hooked!

2.  as far as what song i'd like to make love to...........hands down (heh),
it would have to be , "i am intense, i am in need, i am in pain, and i feel
forsaken for the things i gave away........" ........why can't i remember the
title to this one.......sheeeshhhhh!


guess that's it for this morning.........

peace all........

folkie

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found this today... does anyone know anything about this?
trooper
indigo girls, jewel in spring concerts

by kelly emminger '99

the indigo girls will perform in concert march 13 in chapin auditorium. the
musical duo will finish off a semester of spring concerts, which include
performances by jewel and the wallflowers on february 20 and march 2
respectively. the concerts are sponsored by the network.

1600 tickets will be sold for each concert, with several hundred reserved at a
discount price for mount holyoke students. the 300 student discount tickets
for the jewel concert have already sold out, as has the entire concert.

wallflowers tickets are being sold today from noon to 3 pm in blanchard. they
are also being sold tomorrow at proticks and strawberries.

indigo girls tickets will go on sale march 1 in chapin auditorium, and will be
sold from 2 pm until they are sold out. all three concerts will be held in
chapin auditorium.

student discount tickets cost $15 for jewel, $10.50 for the wallflowers, and
$17 for the indigo girls. regular priced tickets cost $18.50, $14.50, and $24,
respectively. 400 tickets for the wallflowers concert and 500 for the indigo
girls will be reserved for mount holyoke students, according to network
concert coordinator kendra husband '99.

the network and john peters of mass concerts are co-sponsoring the jewel and
wallflowers concerts. "john peters pays for the act. we pay for a variety of
other thingsñcatering, extra security, etc." said network chair kristen bub
'97. the network is the sole sponsor of the indigo girls concert.

bub and husband did not disclose the exact amount of money the network is
spending on the concerts. "the indigo girls generally go for $30,000. our bid
was comparable," bub said.

"we're going to make back what we put into it," husband said. according to
bub, leftover funds from last semester, particularly profits from a night in
new orleans, provided the network with extra money to spend on the upcoming
concerts.

in a poll given to mount holyoke students last semester, the indigo girls were
one of the top bands requested to play on campus. the network confirmed on
january 23 that the indigo girls would perform at mount holyoke.

"this year we've worked really hard to get many acts," bub said.

the network began advertising the concerts on-campus last weekend. john peters
has been advertising off campus for the last week.

meghan faherty '00 first heard of the jewel concert on a commercial radio
advertisement. "i'm very impressed that such a big name is coming to mount
holyoke. i'm really excited," faherty said.

"i wrote the indigo girls down on the survey earlier this year," elissa colter
'00 said. "they're fantastic. i love them. i am so excited about seeing them."

a few days after jewel performs at mount holyoke, she will play at the 39th
annual grammy awards. she has been nominated for two grammy awards for "best
new artist" and "best female pop vocal performance."

all discount tickets will be sold in blanchard student center. regular priced
tickets will be sold to the public at various ticket outlets.


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hmmm...i'd never heard any of their songs until they bought my 1st album
(upon the recommendation of the music mavens @ sassy
magazine--woo-hoo!)...it wasn't until college (almost 2 years later)
that i first heard them on the radio, or found anyone else who knew
about their music.


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the first song i heard was closer to fine. i saw the video on vh1 and loved it.
went right out and bought their self-titled cassette (yes it was that long ago).
but i just hated secure yourself, so after ctf  i'd pop the tape out and never
listened to the rest of it. about 2 years later on a road trip from fargo to
oklahoma my friend put the tape in. i was driving down i-35 and it was about 3
in the morning and left it in so as not to disturb the others who were sleeping.
that's when i fell in love with their music. i finally listened to the whole
thing all the way through. (actually it turned out to be about 3 times through,
i just couldn't stop)

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in a message dated 99-03-09 02:40:37 est, :

<<  what ig song did you hear first before becoming a fan? >>

i think it would have  been either land of caanan or tried to be true.
after nearly a decade of music i couldn't get into ( if only i had known
about rem !) i was surfing the fm dial and these songs started
popping up. i remember liking them, and thinking what an odd voice
the singer has ...

i was also hearing love's recovery but didn't connect it with the other songs.
but i liked that too !
:)
claire

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in a message dated 3/9/99 10:28:09 am, the great & powerful oz, no wait,
claire wrote:

<<land of caanan or tried to be true ... surfing the fm dial and these songs
started
popping up. ... i was also hearing love's recovery>>

so binks, what radio station were you listening to???  i still haven't heard
any of those on the radio... and for me, the first one was ctf, and then i
caught the video, "grrrls with guitars????  oh, i gotta get this album!"
(yes, we called them albums back then, old habits ;).

dee

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hkf's,

another beautiful day in sunny atlanta (actually feels like i'm near nova
scotia or dublin...bbrrrrrrrrrr...)

i just sent out two blanks & postage packages and i did a little test.  i
got postage for my padded envelope with only the blanks inside with a small
note (no cases or j-cards) and the postage for a small envelope (4x7) was 77
cents.  the postage for a medium-ish padded envelope (6x9) was 99 cents.
the outer unpadded envelope for both was 99 cents.  so since i was easily
able to fit two blanks (minus the cases & j-cards) into the small 4x7
envelope, and they would shift around less as well, that seems like the way
to go when doing a b&p for 1 or 2 blank tapes.
i got the padded envelopes pretty cheap at target (49 for small, 59 cents
for medium) and you can get the medium ones even cheaper in packs of five.

hope this info helps some of you guys out there...
happy trading...
8-)

"if the world is night, shine my life like a light"-emily saliers

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i guess you can call me lurker...i have just recently resubscribed to this
list and rarely post, but i have to respond to this one.  the first ig song
i ever heard was kid fears.  it was 1989 and i went to see r.e.m. in concert
in memphis tn.  i got there a little late just as the opening act was
playing their last song...low and behold it was the indigo girls and i
remember the hair on the back of my neck standing straight up as tears
welled up in my eyes listening to them do this song with micheal
stipe...awesome...  it was incredible and i have been a faithful follower
ever since!!!
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>well, just wanted to send out an email to get everyone's minds off the
>letter (which is obviously fake) and em's sis.
>  a question for everyone - i don't think this one has been asked
>lately.
>  what ig song did you hear first before becoming a fan?
>  mine would have to be shame on you.  my best friend played it for me
>a year ago this month, and i've been hooked since.
>  hope everyone's doing well.
>  later -
>
>steph
>
>
>
>
>==
>mothers, tell your children, be quick, you must be strong. life is full of
wonder, love is never wrong!
> - melissa etheridge
>i don't wanna talk about it, how you broke my heart.  if i stay here just a
little bit longer, if i stay here won't you listen to my heart - indigo
girls
>i mock you with my monkey pants!! - oz
>
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><<  what ig song did you hear first before becoming a fan?

the first indigo girls song i ever heard was "closer to fine".  my family
and i were moving to az and at one of the hotels we stopped at we had cable
tv.  saw the video on either mtv or vh1...and was hooked.  soon after that i
bought the cassette of "indigo girls" and the rest is history.

kelly

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take me off this list now!

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well the first song i ever heard was closer to fine waaay back in the olden
days of 1989. what a year for music! what with tracy chapman, melissa
etheridge, and the girls all hitting the stage!

ryan blackhawke
3526-c fremont pl. n.
seattle, wa 98103
(206)632-hemp
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on monday, march 08, 1999 4:43 pm, samantha zeiss
[smtp:indigo1008@yahoo.com] wrote:
> well, just wanted to send out an email to get everyone's minds off the
> letter (which is obviously fake) and em's sis.
>   a question for everyone - i don't think this one has been asked
> lately.
>   what ig song did you hear first before becoming a fan?
>   mine would have to be shame on you.  my best friend played it for me
> a year ago this month, and i've been hooked since.
>   hope everyone's doing well.
>   later -
>
> steph
>
>
>
>
> ==
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of wonder, love is never wrong!
>  - melissa etheridge
> i don't wanna talk about it, how you broke my heart.  if i stay here just
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> i mock you with my monkey pants!! - oz
>
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the first ig song i ever heard was secure yourself. i heard some girls singing
it at a choir concert when i was in highschool. during the song i turned to my
bestfriend  (she was my source for all things muscial.including unfortunayly
debbie gibson, but i digress) and said, "where is that song from, it is the
most amazing thing i have ever heard?" i bought their self titled cd the next
week. the funny thing is i listened to them for a bout four years and bought
all of their cds but wasn't a major fan until seeing them in concert.

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<what ig song did you hear first before becoming a fan?>

the first indigo girls song i heard before becoming a fan would be
"joking".  i had purchased the 1200 curfews cd a couple of years before
and <gasp> never listened to it.  so, i took it on a road trip from
albuquerque to amarillo in may of 1997 to pick up my new puppy!  we
listened to both cd's all the way back from amarillo and i was hooked!!
my sheltie, rhett, is extremely fond of them also.  we both have
wonderful memories of the trip back!

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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 12:48:40 pst
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first song: joking

and i really hated it.  i didn't know indigo girls at all, this was
early 93.  then my dear sweet atlantan cousin hooked me the next year
with nis and then my favorite, swamp ophelia.  oddly, rop is one of my
favorite albums and joking has grown on me.  i saw them in concert for
the first time in 94 and was hooked for good. tricia
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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 16:00:22 est
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i think the first indigo girls song i heard was, prince of darkness when i was
younger, my cousin played it all the time. i think the songs that got me
"hooked" were, tried to be true and closer to fine. i listened to them non-
stop, i guess that's how it got started.
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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 13:47:48 pst
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well, chalk another one up for closer to fine. yep, it was my first. it
was the summer of '97, and i was sneaking around in my sister's cd
collection. coming across the self titled album, i picked it up and
thought to myself....oh yeah, that closer to fine song. i listened to
it, fell in love, and asked to borrow her cd. she refused (i don't blame
her) but offered to let me borrow 1200 curfews from one of her friends.
i listened to that over and over and over until she made me give it
back, so i marched right down to my local cd store and bought 1200
curfews. needless to say, within one week,  i was the proud owner of all
the girls' major releases. and as they say...the rest is history my
friends....
lia
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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 14:00:37 pst
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hey y'all...

my ig history has a sorta sad beginning--these two snotty girls at my
high school played ctf in chapel--yep, i went to a good old christian
school (<gasp!> lesbian music in god's house!)--and i decided, based on
my association of ig with these two snots, that i hated ig.  pretty sad,
eh?

anyway, when i came to college and met the infamous bethany (our dearly
departed-from-the-list friend), she practically shoved ig down my
throat! :)  i'll never forget the day we were sitting in music theory
iii--beth leans over to me and says, "shan, you have to learn this song
for us to sing together!  i don't remember how it goes--the only lyric i
can think of is 'then you had to bring up reincarnation over a couple of
beers the other night.'"

and i'm thinking, "wonderful--she's getting me to sing stupid drinking
songs--a great influence, this bethany."  :)

come a long way in 3 years.

to make a long story short, i did learn galileo and kid fears and hand
me downs from listening to beth sing them with her guitar, before i ever
heard a recording of them. (which explains why my harmonies to hand me
downs are weird to this day)  i finally broke down and bought 1200
curfews, mostly to get bethany to stop bugging me about "owning some
indigo!" and i ended up playing the thing to an early grave.
thankfully, i was able to replace it, and i've been singing and grooving
along to ig ever since.

i'll also never forget my first concert experience--beth and i drove to
dayton to see them at fraze pavilion in june(or july?) of 1996.  best
show i've ever seen--er, heard. (there was a mammothly tall man standing
right in front of me)  now, 6 concerts and countless hours singing ig
with bethany, i feel like i'm a true ig buff. ;)

shannon
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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 16:33:47 -0600
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not sure if this has been posted to the list or not....

from a review of "burning london" (the clash tribute album) in the april
'99 spin

"....in the end, it's a toss-up for the collection's most
cringe-inducing moment--the indigo girls' (!) lilith-lite reading of
"clampdown" or.... [goes on to talk about the band 311]"
reviewer - matt diehl

does he sound a little biased, or what??

-mwartenberg

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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 18:03:21 -0500
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sorry if this is not of interest to all:
(this info taken from the etheridge-info list...)

lifetime plans to broadcast an intimate portrait on melissa etheridge...
melissa's portrait will premiere on tues , march 23rd @ 10pm
and encore at 3pm on april 1.
check out the website at:
            http://www.lifetimetv.com
there is a special area devoted to the intimate portrait series.
            http://www.lifetimetv.com/onair/intimate/index.html.

just trying to share!
later,
twink!
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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 21:11:18 -0800
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shelley miller wrote:

> hmmm...i'd never heard any of their songs until they bought my 1st album
>

how exactly did that happen, shel?  *they* bought *your* first album, then
got in touch with you and said, "hey, we like your stuff - you should listen
to ours...."

that was too cute.
i'd say it was freudian or something, but i hear that's a bad word nowadays.

michal

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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 18:37:05 -0500
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at 10:07 pm 3/4/99 -0500, you wrote:
>        i had the great opportunity to see shawn at the metro here in
>chicago last week.  sorry if this was mentioned already.  i do love his
>music and performances but was very very disappointed with this show.  his
>opening band played longer than he did.  my friends and i left the show
>wondering if he was ok because it just seemed quite unusual that he would
>play for 50 minutes total.  i also snagged the setlist and noticed many
>skipped songs which would have been great to hear.  the crowd wasn't rowdy
>or anything so i am left wondering what happened.  he did sound good while
>playing.  the man sure does sweat a lot so i'm thinking maybe he just wears
>down sooner.  anyone else seen him?
sorry you were disappointed.

i don't know of any particulars at the chicago show.  i do know there were
some set change problems with the opening band initially.  don't know if
that had anything to do with a shortened show.
i will tell you that these shows are not 2 hour concerts.  typically the
shows are an hour to an hour and 15 minutes.  the opening act gets 30
minutes.  don't attend expecting a longer show.  the tickets are usually
only 10-15 dollars so it's not like anyone is not getting a good show for
the price.  also, realize that although shawn himself has alot of material
to pull from, the band is generally pulling from the current album only.
they do throw in a few songs from older albums, but mostly are going with
the columbia release.
hope that clears up a few things!  you all should definitely try to catch a
show.  i saw 2 recently that were sold out and the audiences did not seem
disappointed!!!
thanks,
cheri

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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 18:47:55 -0500
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the mt. holyoke show isn't going to happen - it's a story from two years ago
(when they *did* open the sots tour there) this has been confirmed by a call
to mt. holyoke and an email from someone who lives right nerar there.

(altho- i kinda wish it was happening. ig this sat. night - i could deal!)
mike r.

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in a message dated 3/9/99 6:40:49 pm eastern standard time,
ccigfan@mindspring.com writes:

<< the opening act gets 30
minutes.  don't attend expecting a longer show.  the tickets are usually
only 10-15 dollars so it's not like anyone is not getting a good show for
the price.  >>

please. you can see an amazing two hour performance such as voices on verge
for 6 bucks.  do not get me wrong, i am a huge shawn mullins fan (be sure to
check out his two big articles int he ny times in the past week) , i just
think that at a decent sized club, for 15 bucks, we could at least get an hour
from shawn.

whatever the length may be, does anyone have any boots of these shows ??? i
got some stuff to trade

peace
sasha

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well, after i posted the "first song" question, i was talking to my
mother about the girls.  didn't even realize this, but she informed me
that she used to play the girls in the house when i was in highschool
(i'm 21 and soon to be back in college).  she said the actual first
song i heard by them was, in fact, ctf.  that's prob why i have such a
connection with that song, and why it touches my heart the most.
  how freaky - my 50-something year old mother has been an ig fan
longer than me!  lol.

  steph


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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 19:58:34 est
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ummm.... any of the first moments that the infamous light bulbs come on...like
when one finally understands what they are doing halfway into that calculus ii
problem, or when the same chords that are formed in the second fret are
actually findable, higher up the neck of the acoustic...so is the feeling when
one hears that first ig song and stops to ask someone..." who is that?"
   mine was pushing the needle too far...and as "janis joplin scary" as it was
for me, i still asked, and i was told that it was two women calling themselves
the indigo girls.  the answer to that question always leads to searching out
some tape..some single...some thing else they have recorded, to keep the magic
flowing.
i have called them the most talented female guitarists ever since, and i doubt
that will change any time soon.  until i strike it famous on my own six-
string...hehe.
joke.
just had to ponder along with the rest of you...
shelia

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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 19:59:15 -0500
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it just goes to show how universal our lovely ladies are....i would love to
have my mom get into ig, she really goes gung ho over stuff like this and
she tends to have great connections sometimes....but oh well. your mom
rocks!!!!!!!

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
peace love and light

beccie lyon

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even if it is only used to touch one shoulder in support
or love  it is our destiny to change the world in that way.....

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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 19:51:41 -0500
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from:         "j. k." <kshucks@juno.com>
subject:      any more mp3s?

i admit, i just got into mp3s so i'm a big ol' late mum but was wondering
if there were any more (or any old) mp3 sites with ig stuff on
it?...please email me if you know....thanks!

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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 17:18:12 -0800
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just a note on parents listening to ig: when i was too young to go to
concerts with just my friends, i went with my dad.  he has been to 2
ig concerts with me (out of the 4 i have been to) and he loves them.
he can not wait to go to another one.  his only complaint is that he
would like to sit down b/c in the 2 places we saw them, it was
standing only.  his love for the girls has inspired him to learn to
play the guitar whn he finishes his thesis.  the exact moment that
inspired this was in "the boathouse" in va, where they played with
michelle malone, and the 3 girls all leaned back and started playing
their hearts out.  the scene moved him, almost to tears.  enough of me
rambling.  i am just happy that there is music we can compromise on
when we go look at colleges for me.  ;)

-di

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my first song was love will come to you, and i still think
it's my favorite.  before going to oberlin my future roommate
sent me a mix tape of a bunch of stuff, and the song jumped
out at me right away. you would think that after that i
would have thought to go out and buy an album, but i just
kept listening to that one song over and over. then i played
it for a friend, she liked it too, and the smart girl went out
and bought an album. then she reintroduced me to some more
songs and i finally realized that hey, this wasn't their only
good song.  what can i say, i have gotten more intelligent
since then.
shannon

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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 18:24:36 pst
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re: shelley's extraordinary musical talents, which may or may not have
prompted a&e to say
>"hey, we like your stuff - you should listen to ours."

hey, it could happen.  shel *is* pretty darn fabulous...

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>but oh well. your mom rocks!!!!!!!
my mom, then, rules.  she's got ziggy stardust on vinyl.  and still
plays it so loud the windowpanes rattle.

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i have to speak up on this one. i think i qualify as a weird mom. the first i
heard of the indigo girls was around 1990 from a friend who was going to see
them here in tampa. i couldn't make the show but i knew i would love them.
don't ask how, i just knew. i went out and bought all i could find and was
hooked. i can't remember the first song i heard and it didn't matter because i
loved every one i heard, well, except for midnight train to georgia (when it
came out on 1200 curfews). i am old enough to remember the original and hated
it. the girls do a much better cover. anyway, my daughter has been subjected
to the girls ever since and loves them as well. she will be 15 april 12th (big
coincidence!). at first, it was an embarrassment to have her mother playing
their music so loud, but soon her friend's  older sisters "discovered" them
and i was suddenly  kinda "cool". i have managed to get her to 3 of their
concerts in the last few years. yes, even those of us over 40 have good taste.
don't ask how i got on the list. thank goodness there were no age
qualifications! oh, i teach as well and subject my students to great music.
they too eventually learn to appreciate my taste. i prefer to think it's
excellent taste, not weirdness that makes those of us over 40 "cool". i'll
take my aching and aging joints back to lurkdom now.
suzanne

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date:         tue, 9 mar 1999 19:43:21 -0800
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i am doing a presentation on ig for one of my classes.  but in my rush
to clean up my hard drive i deleted some file that i need.  soooo  could
one of y'all send me (if possible)

1. that freaky list of the stuff ig requested to eat
2. any sites for mp3's
3. the lyric for boys just laugh

much much thanks to y'all.  i am still delirious for my nap and i hope
this comes out coherent.  thanks to y'all in advance and you don't have
to post to the list.  i think i already said that.  oops if i did.  and
now i have to stop because i am rambling.

hugs and hershey kisses~
luna

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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 14:53:04 +1100
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hey y'all

the first time i heard the indigo girls was in about 1994.
kd lang had programed a music video show in australia (rage) and i sisnt'
see it , but a friedn of mine made an audio tape of it.

when the guest artist programs the show they can include any songs they
like - kd put in ghost and gaileo - i couldnt' beleive how beautiful
these songs were.

i wanted to find out who they were by - but i'd never heard of the indigo
girls then - i went to the library and borrowed swamp ophelia - but
strangly enough i didnt' really get into before it was tiem to take it
back ( it is my favourite cd now :)

a while later i got the first album - then all the rest
but that is where the magic began - with ghost and gaileo - thanks to kd
(who i'm not a huge fan of - but at least she did soemthing for me :)

joanna

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      *   *             "love is a piano
* * *      *  * *
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joanna - ccjld@alinga.newcastle.edu.au
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excerpts from internet.music.indigo-girls: 9-mar-99 re: change of
subject by dana warnez@aol.com
> 2.  as far as what song i'd like to make love to...........hands down (heh),
> it would have to be , "i am intense, i am in need, i am in pain, and i feel
> forsaken for the things i gave away........" ........why can't i remember the
> title to this one.......sheeeshhhhh!

"blood and fire", love.  it's a fantastic song.

i got hooked on indigo the summer after 6th grade, 1991.  which seems
like an eternity ago, seeing as i'm in my second year of college.  :)
i was at summer camp - 4h camp, to be exact - and i joined a guitar
class spontaneously.. thought it could be fun, and i was always into the
music thing.  there i met an amazing boy who i still chat with at every
opportunity, who taught me how to love guitar, and showed me indigo
girls.  "closer to fine" was the first, but he lent me the entire indigo
girls album, and i had a very hard time giving it back at the end of the
two weeks.
>from that summer forward, i spent every first day of camp looking for
him, looking to jam, looking for indigo.  as it is, i miss eric
horribly; we got together over winter break, and we jammed like we'd
never been apart... if i ever lose touch with him, i don't know what
i'll do.

much love from snowy pittsburgh,
terri

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at 07:39 pm 3/9/99 est, you wrote:
><< the opening act gets 30
> minutes.  don't attend expecting a longer show.  the tickets are usually
> only 10-15 dollars so it's not like anyone is not getting a good show for
> the price.  >>
>
>please. you can see an amazing two hour performance such as voices on verge
>for 6 bucks.  do not get me wrong, i am a huge shawn mullins fan (be sure to
>check out his two big articles int he ny times in the past week) , i just
>think that at a decent sized club, for 15 bucks, we could at least get an
hour
>from shawn.
you will get an hour!(see below).  and shawn is a signed artist with a hit
record and video and a grammy nomination that has a crew and band to
support, i think 10-15 bucks is pretty good (actually i haven't seen a
ticket price higher than 13.50, i was just rounding up).  trust me, 10-15
bucks per head does not cover his costs!  i'm not meaning to sound
righteous here, just wanted to issue some facts.

...and not to argue.....just to make myself clear.....shawn is the
headliner at the shows i mentioned, not the opener(i.e. the 30 minute
performance).  i was just at 2 of his shows at 1000 seat clubs and he
performed just over an hour at each of those shows.  sorry if i confused
anyone.
>
>whatever the length may be, does anyone have any boots of these shows ???

ditto!!!!!
cheri

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hello all!

i have had major pc problems this week, which is why i am getting to this
late.  i want to thank all of you who sent requests for the set list.  now i
don't feel so silly for taking notes during the show. :-)  so on to the
review.

michelle penn, a michigan native transplanted to atlanta, opened for mm. i
thought penn was really good.  she has a sound that reminds me a little of me
mixed with a dash of cher.  i liked her style, which was very much the typical
singer/songwriter style we know and love.  after her set, i went over and got
to chat with her for a little bit. she seemed so excited to be playing in nyc
and to be there with mm. i bought one of her cd's and have been enjoying it.

on to the important stuff!

mm was amazing!  first off i thought she look wonderful!  when i saw her at
newport, she still looked a bit weak from the events this past spring, but on
friday she looked back to her old self. she sounded great, played great, and
was not rude to the crowd once!  (yes, we all know what she can be like!  it
is part of her charm!)  even when people started to request songs, she was
cool and even indulged us "butter biscuit"!!!

people were taking pictures with flash on and off during her set, but it not
seem to upset her.  personally, i thought it was kinda rude, but who am i to
begrudge a few concert photos.  i thought through the whole set she was very
intense, like her mood was very serious, not that she did not laugh, just that
she was very into her music and her songs. i think this was felt through out
the crowd because everyone was silent when she sang.  you could have heard a
pin drop during a few songs. she sang with great conviction, even on the new
songs. and i loved how she snapped at the guitar with her fingers.  it was a
cool sound and added to the songs. and no i did not boot the show, sorry! as
far and what she said between songs, i jotted down a few of her choice
comments as to better describe the show.  so here goes!

1) the show opened with her making fun of her saying "y'all." she said, "don't
leave home without it!"

2) she said she was writing for a new cd that might be out sometime this year.

3) she said the new songs she was working on were her thirtysomthing songs.
and the older stuff was her twentysomething songs.  however this thought
seemed to confuse her because the last cd came out since she has turned 30,
but she figured that the songs were written while she was 20.  (i think you
could say the new songs are much more emily songs and the older songs seem
more amy, if that helps.)

4) she said that flying kinda made her feel funny.  like all the cells in her
body speed up while she was in the air and it took them a few days to get back
to normal.  she said it made her feel restless and it was hard for her to feel
calm.

5) she said she was being "mellow girl" that night and she did not want us to
fall asleep on her.  not that we were bored, but after the food and the drink
and with the mellow thirtysomthing music, we might feel so relaxed we would
drift off. she even had them turn the lights up a tad because she felt it was
too dark.

6) she added at the end of the set that she was afraid that we would find out
what a dork she really was.  i guess the self-deprecating side of her is
something i have not seen before. it struck me as a great contrast to the
power of her music.

and 7) she was proud to tell us she had just been in the studio with her
mother recording a song for a dusty springfield tribute cd.  they did the song
"look of love" which she said has always been a favorite of hers, and it was
cool to get to work with her mom.  mm had no other info on the cd and had no
clue what other singers were recording for it.

ok, on to the set list:

redemption dream
back home (do, do, do) (i am not sure if this is the real title)
green thumb
if it weren't for you... (not sure the title)
*home grown (new song, the apartment song)
green
*strength for 2 (amazing new song, her po2)
edge (as she sang, you could have heard a pin drop)
grace of your heart
holiday
*avalon (wow)
butter biscuit!!!!
teen lament
blue suede (one of my favs)
wild horses

i picked up the new ep called "lucky to be live" and i love it!  i think it is
the only place you hear here doing "wild horses" and "butte biscuit" but i
could be wrong. well, enough from me!  i am sorry this is so long!  i had an
amazing time and even got to speak to her for like 2 minutes a the end when
she was singing cd's and stuff.  wow!

i hope this was not too bad...

babs

ps: please check out a new singer named eden white.  she is based in nyc but i
can see her exploding all over the us within a year.  you can hear a few song
clips at www.edenwhite.com and i have started a chat list at egroups under the
keyword edenwhitefans.  there is a calendar at the egroups site where i have
posted the upcoming tour dates.

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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 16:09:44 +1100
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hey folks,

just a note to let those of you who may not be aware of
this know that there is a michelle malone mailing list -
to subscribe, send the following command in the body of
an email to majordomo@smoe.org:
        subscribe devil-moon <your email address>
(replace "<your email address>" with your real address,
minus the quotes and brackets).

:)
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this is actually my first time posting, so i'd just like to say hi to
everyone, and that i've enjoyed reading your posts over the past couple
months.  on the subject of parents listening to ig, they were actually the
ones that introduced me to the girls' music.  my dad plays guitar and does a
kick-ass version of blood and fire :-).  as for the first song i heard that
inspired me to become an ig fan, i'd have to say ctf, which seems to be a
popular response to this question.  well, i'm off to studying again...
ughh... only 3 more days til spring break!!

~ natty ann  :o)        /^/^( 0*0 )^\^\  (friendly spider)

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        i was actually at the same show (sorry we didn;t meet, babs - i
was departed for nyc by the time you sent out the mail saying you'd be
there). i pretty much second everything that was said - michelle penn was
really impressive, and a lot more than one usually hopes for from an
opening act. by the end of the evening, though, i was really frustrated
with her... she ended up sitting at the table next to ours and talked
rather loudly through most of mm's set... i probably would have kicked her
if she hadn't been the opening act... but by then i had already bought a
cd, so perhaps when my rancor burns off and i can bring myself to pop in
the cd her wonderful music will override the snotty conversation she and
her friends were having that was drowning out the show. *grrrr* (hehe)
        it was the first time i'd seen mm in concert, so i can't really
compare it to anything else of hers, except to say that her live sound is
very different than her cds, gentler, more acoustic, even green and blue
suede (which are, to me, her ultimate loud rockers.) i wouldn't have
chosen the setlist she played, but everything she sang was nothing short
of arresting. she really went all out on the edge, doing the penultimate
chorus a cappella and stretching it out to something like five minutes...
wow. that and green thumb were my favorites, i think.
        speaking of green thumb - i don't know how many of y'all have
heard avalon at some point or another, but has anyone else noticed that it
sounds a lot like green thumb? i mean, it's a different song, but even if
the voice and guitar style weren't so distinctive, you could tel by
listening that the same person wrote both songs (either that, or one was
written by a very talented wannabe.)


> ok, on to the set list:
>
> redemption dream
> back home (do, do, do) (i am not sure if this is the real title)
        (back home is the title - it's on the strange bird vol ii
"official bootleg" cassette)

> green thumb
> if it weren't for you... (not sure the title)
        (actually called learn to cry, also on sb v.ii)

> *home grown (new song, the apartment song)
> green
> *strength for 2 (amazing new song, her po2)
> edge (as she sang, you could have heard a pin drop)
> grace of your heart
> holiday
> *avalon (wow)
> butter biscuit!!!!
> teen lament
> blue suede (one of my favs)
> wild horses
>
> i picked up the new ep called "lucky to be live" and i love it!  i think it is
> the only place you hear here doing "wild horses" and "butte biscuit" but i
> could be wrong.

        you can actually find these together on the strange bird vol ii
tape. that is, unless that was "butte biscuit" thing wasn't just a typo
and mm started singing about geological formations when i wasn't looking.
:) anyway, if you're not sold yet, i recommend that you check it out. the
collection of songs isn't really as strong all-around as on her albums,
but i love it - it's all acoustic, just her voice and her guitar.

        mandy
        spongeing off babs' two cents

        "we're bound to get weirder as the night progresses."
                                -emily saliers, nc chapel hill, nov. 1987

        "no ancient greek on the bus."
                                -eilis monahan

        "hick pride! it's kinda like gay pride, except we have shotguns!"
                                -darius wei

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hi all,
on the topic of firt ig songs and weird parents - joking is it for me.  i
first heard the girls in boys on the side and fell in love with joking,
and amy's cool dancing boots!  i also want to add that my mother also
loves joking but constantly gets the words confused.  she's always singing
"fooling" instead of "joking", but the best is when she remembers the
right word halfway through and ends up saying : "you were only foo-king
brother!"  which of course sounds rather crass for ig.  mmm, sorta changes
the song a bit.

maddie

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hey all--
sorry to waste the bandwidth, but could someone please resend me any
info on the apr. 12 concert/death penalty protest that ig are
participating in?  i didn't realize that i'd need it later and deleted
it...thanks a bunch!

peace,
kelly
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guys--

>michelle penn, a michigan native transplanted to atlanta, opened for
mm. i
>thought penn was really good.

michelle penn is a friend of [the blessed st.] sulli [the enigmatic]. (i
really think i oughta call her that to her face, yes?)(if you dare me, i
just might)(couldn't be any worse than what i called her last time i saw
her)(nevermind that).
anyhow.
carol and i talked to michelle a bit after the detroit sst; she's really
working hard to get her music out there.  if you hear she's playing in
your area, by all means go.  (not that i've ever heard her stuff.  um.
she was just a fantastically nice woman.  and who doesn't want to see a
really great person perform? :).  er. fine, don't believe me. believe
sulli; she was telling us how good michelle is.  and who are we to
question a goddess?)

heee


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my first ig song experience was ctf, which i saw on mtv waaaaaaaay back in '89
or '90.  back in my early teen years.  you know, those fuzzy, not quite
completely remembered times when you're going through your biggest growth
spurts, puberty, getting your first bra, and trying like hell to figure out
what exactly to do with a tampon or maxi pad without having to ask the
embarrassing as hell question "mom, how do i do this???"  first time i heard
it, i was hooked, but growing up po (that's poor times 7...too poor to afford
the last two letters) i had no access to a cd player, and the only tape player
i had had an annoying tendency to eat everything but my mom's neil diamond
<shudder> tape.

anyway, enough free-association bs from me....

dawn

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ok...at the exact moment i was putting sots into my cd play....shame on
you came on the radio....
i spect its cuz of my suggestion like an hour ago though.....
they play a bit of a song and tell you the misheard lyric and i called
and suggested "when louise goes down."  that could be why its being
played at all.....
are there any other crass and funny (that seems to be the type they use)
ones that could be good for radio?
carol
ps-liz hayes...can you write me please?  :)
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reply-to:     shelley miller <strange_fire66@hotmail.com>
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i bought their album
i bought their album
i bought their album
i bought their album
i bought their album
i do not have delusions of grandeur
i do not have delusions of grandeur
i do not have delusions of grandeur
i do not have delusions of grandeur
i do not have delusions of grandeur
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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 07:31:23 pst
reply-to:     shelley miller <strange_fire66@hotmail.com>
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and my mom makes the cool-beans allstar team, too--last christmas, she
asked for cds of the musicians i listen to (ig, shawn colvin, carrie
newcomer)...she has also skanked at my brother's ska shows, but that's a
different story ;)

>>but oh well. your mom rocks!!!!!!!
>my mom, then, rules.  she's got ziggy stardust on vinyl.  and still
>plays it so loud the windowpanes rattle.
>
>jill, so full of nigc it's maddening


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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 11:09:14 -0500
reply-to:     marivel danielson <marivel@umich.edu>
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> sulli; she was telling us how good michelle is.  and who are we to
> question a goddess?)

regardless of whose friend she is, michelle is simply a great performer.  good
vocals, wonderful guitar...writing...etc.  even though i don't live anywhere
near atlanta, i'm just glad she blesses us midwesterners with a show or two
every few months.  she'll be here (in detroit) at the end of the month, and then
back in atlanta for 2 dates in april (aren't those daemon artists?).  for more
info check out http://www.michellepenn.com...

saturday, march 27

doors at 8 pm       ferndale, mi       magic bag       with sue callaway

friday, april 2     10 pm    atlanta, ga       star bar  with wild west picture
                                                             show
friday, april 16   9:30 pm   atlanta, ga      the point with stereo popsicle

"no, gloria,
esas tardes no volveran
ya se ha ido el sol y pa'lla voy
una sola extranjera
al borde de algo mas
de lo que fui"

3.4.99

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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 10:52:16 -0500
reply-to:     kelly fairbairn <fairbk@sage.edu>
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on wed, 10 mar 1999, shelley miller wrote:

> and my mom makes the cool-beans allstar team, too--last christmas, she
> asked for cds of the musicians i listen to (ig, shawn colvin, carrie
> newcomer)...she has also skanked at my brother's ska shows, but that's a
> different story ;)


i think elaine bean definitely deserves to be nominated to the cool mom
all-star team.  any mom who has a house concert and blue hair
deserves to be nominated in my book.  :)

kelly,
whose mom has gained coolness points since she asked for "letter to eve"
on a tape.

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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 13:02:38 est
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my dad would kill me if i didn't credit him with getting me into indigo
girls...
here's the story~
it's 1990, i'm seven years old...
we are on a ski trip in colorado, driving on this narrow road that weaves in
between the mountains and its all snowy and white and beautiful...
so we come to this diner that's embedded in one of the mountains and i
remember it being very sterile and clean and flourescent...
and to liven up the place, my dad and i go over to the juke box and pick out a
random song...its just happened to be closer to fine!
we fell in love...
he went out and bought the cd and then got rites of passage soon thereafter...
but i wasn't hooked until about 7th grade, when my dad was afraid that i was
getting too into nirvana and pearl jam...he bought me swamp ophelia for my
birthday and i listened to least complicated every night for months!
camp definitely helped the obsession grow :)  my counselor used to sing ghost
to us before we went to sleep...
but ctf was definitely the first song...gotta love it...
~erin

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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 12:10:33 -0800
reply-to:     diana <diana128@yahoo.com>
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i was just wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions on how i
should go about learning to play the guitar, besides taking actual
lessons.  i am looking for maybe, book titles and things along thoose
lines.  i do not have the $  right now to pay for lessons.  i have
wanted to learn how to play for soooo long and now i actually have the
time.  i have a cheesy guitar that is probably a million years old,
and it is not tuned.  ( i also do not know how to tune it)  so your
help would be greatly appreciated.  thanks a lot!!!

-di

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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 13:08:45 -0800
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just a media alert...the march/april issue of performing songwriter
magazine has good sized interviews with shawn mullins and john keane,
as well as cheryl wheeler (ray charles is on the cover).
keane's interview talks about ig as well as rem.  should be
on newsstands very soon (as in th next few days) if
it isnt there already.

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pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 15:52:43 -0600
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<i havewanted to learn how to play for soooo long and now i actually have the
time.  i have a cheesy guitar that is probably a million years old,
and it is not tuned.  ( i also do not know how to tune it)  so your
help would be greatly appreciated.  thanks a lot!!!>
-di


my first suggestion for anybody learnign guitar is to invest about $20.00 in a
tuner. trust me it's a life saver. i've been playing for about 5 years and have
never taken a lesson. what i did was buy a couple of songbooks i had cds to (if
you don't want to do that libraries can actually be wonderful sources of sheet
music, even ig stuff) the chord boxes will show you how to finger the chord. i
would play songs like land of canaan with my fingering just for the g chord, and
whenever that chord came around i'd strum along, until i got better at changing
chords.(amy's songs are much much much easier than em's) one thing i learned
from a friend who played a little bit of guitar was to always keep strumming
while changing chords. even if the fingering sounds a little bad, rhythm is more
noticeable if you stop in between. above all, play what you want to hear, i've
looked at beginning song books that want you to play "michael row your boat
ashore" and other songs that make me cringe. olga is a good site for sheet music
(if you can find one open still). i hope that might help you. good luck and have
fun.

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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 18:04:31 est
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hey,
        my mom actualy baught me my first ig cd.  of course there was no way that i
was going to listen to a cd my mom bought for me but then a friend told me
they were cool.  so i guess i should listen to my mom more often.
all things indigo
karrie

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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 19:49:53 est
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   the 1st ig song that i heard was shame on you. i taped it off the radio and
made my friend jeannette listen to it a million times. so, she decided she was
going to get me the cd for christmas and i guess because of the, "i go down to
the riverside," part she thought the song was river and bought me 1200 curfews
on accident. i wasn't even half way through the cd when i decided i loved
them. i guess the rest is history. = )

-=-katy-=-


"your actions will follow you full circle round, 'the higher the leap,' i
said,
'the harder the ground!'"
-=-amy ray-=-
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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 08:33:52 -0800
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even more good news!

another list member has donated server space so that all three of the
volumes of the early recordings bootleg cds can now be downloaded (1
and 3 were available previously, this is the first time for 2):

early recording 1 - the ep and more
(files were created from an original bootleg cd)

1.land of canaan (4:20)
2.lifeblood (4:21)
3.history of us (5:19)
4.never stop (2:24)
5.cold as ice (4:03)
6.finlandia (2:34)
7.falling star (4:45)
8.carry me away (3:52)
9.sweet gypsy (3:48)
10.i'll be there (3:14)
11.you are free (3:49)
12.holy city (3:14)
13.land of canaan (4:10)
14.lifeblood (3:57)
15.never stop (2:28)
16.cold as ice (3:59)
17.should never have crossed my path (5:05)

1-6 from indigo girls ep, lmm1 - 1986
7-11 amy ray solo - from color me gray
12-15 live - from unknown location(s)
16-17 radio versions: from session tape

early recordings volume 2 - levees that break in my heart
(files were created from an original bootleg cd)

1.high horse (5:03)
2.carolina in my mind (4:46)
3.come down in time (3:24)
4.dancing shoes (3:22)
5.danny's song (3:13)
6.father and son (3:13)
7.you've got a friend (4:02)
8.her town too (4:18)
9.a junkie's lament (2:26)
10.back together again (leaving ain't fair) (2:02)
11.long ago, far away (2:56)
12.a heart in new york (2:34)
13.house at pooh corner (2:57)
14.rock me on the water (3:54)
15.it's too late (2:28)
16.tuesday's children (3:14)
17.wysteria (4:19)
18.three hits (3:04)
19.problem child (4:08)

1 from original 'strange fire' lmm2 1987
2-17 from 'tuesday's children' 1981
18-19 amy ray solo, live at rainy day records, atlanta, ga

early recordings volume 3 -the devils in our bones
date: mon, 15 mar 1999 14:04:01 +0000
from: "l-soft list server at netspace.org (1.8d)" <listserv@netspace.org>
subject:      file: "indigo-girls log9903b"
to: underdog@earthlink.net

(files were created from an original bootleg cd)

1.crazy game
2.everybody's waiting (for someone to come home)
3.don't give up on me baby
4.walk away
5.heartache central time
6.emily's song
7.beautiful guitar
8.instrumental #3
9.play it again sam
10.the ballad of squaky fromme
11.summertime
12.white house blues
13.blood and fire
14.life's so strange
15.up in smoke
16.nashville
17.prince of darkness
18.no way to treat a friend

1,2 'crazy game' single jellis records 1985
3,4 from 'don't eat out of dented cans'
5 amy and michelle mollone recorded at haynes brook's studio, 1986ish.
6-8 from theatre emory's production of "curse of the starving class"
1986
9-12 variously live in 1987
13 from the original 'strange fire' album, 1987 14-18 from first epic
sessions 1989

all files are 128kbps/44khz stereo and i the quality is
excellent.

the fan who donated the server space would like to keep the ftp
address private, and asks that you to email me if you would like to
get the address. please do not post the address on the web, in email
lists, or to
news groups.

also, please be considerate and if you are part of a group that can
easily share files, consider designating one person to download the
files and then share them instead of each person individually trying to
download them from the server. the files will be available on the
server for a week.

if you have any server space you would like to
share please email me so that we can make more shows available, i have
some more great stuff that would be fun to share.

thank you,

janet


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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 17:04:08 +0900
reply-to:     susanne kieffer <theocean@home.com>
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from:         susanne kieffer <theocean@home.com>
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hello all....please don't get angry but can someone please tell me how i
can start to get into this ig mp3 stuff?  how do i get started do i need
a mp3 player(don't laugh if this is not what i need). susanne

janet doe wrote:
>
> even more good news!
>
> another list member has donated server space so that all three of the
> volumes of the early recordings bootleg cds can now be downloaded (1
> and 3 were available previously, this is the first time for 2):
>
> early recording 1 - the ep and more
> (files were created from an original bootleg cd)
>
> 1.land of canaan (4:20)
> 2.lifeblood (4:21)
> 3.history of us (5:19)
> 4.never stop (2:24)
> 5.cold as ice (4:03)
> 6.finlandia (2:34)
> 7.falling star (4:45)
> 8.carry me away (3:52)
> 9.sweet gypsy (3:48)
> 10.i'll be there (3:14)
> 11.you are free (3:49)
> 12.holy city (3:14)
> 13.land of canaan (4:10)
> 14.lifeblood (3:57)
> 15.never stop (2:28)
> 16.cold as ice (3:59)
> 17.should never have crossed my path (5:05)
>
> 1-6 from indigo girls ep, lmm1 - 1986
> 7-11 amy ray solo - from color me gray
> 12-15 live - from unknown location(s)
> 16-17 radio versions: from session tape
>
> early recordings volume 2 - levees that break in my heart
> (files were created from an original bootleg cd)
>
> 1.high horse (5:03)
> 2.carolina in my mind (4:46)
> 3.come down in time (3:24)
> 4.dancing shoes (3:22)
> 5.danny's song (3:13)
> 6.father and son (3:13)
> 7.you've got a friend (4:02)
> 8.her town too (4:18)
> 9.a junkie's lament (2:26)
> 10.back together again (leaving ain't fair) (2:02)
> 11.long ago, far away (2:56)
> 12.a heart in new york (2:34)
> 13.house at pooh corner (2:57)
> 14.rock me on the water (3:54)
> 15.it's too late (2:28)
> 16.tuesday's children (3:14)
> 17.wysteria (4:19)
> 18.three hits (3:04)
> 19.problem child (4:08)
>
> 1 from original 'strange fire' lmm2 1987
> 2-17 from 'tuesday's children' 1981
> 18-19 amy ray solo, live at rainy day records, atlanta, ga
>
> early recordings volume 3 -the devils in our bones
> (files were created from an original bootleg cd)
>
> 1.crazy game
> 2.everybody's waiting (for someone to come home)
> 3.don't give up on me baby
> 4.walk away
> 5.heartache central time
> 6.emily's song
> 7.beautiful guitar
> 8.instrumental #3
> 9.play it again sam
> 10.the ballad of squaky fromme
> 11.summertime
> 12.white house blues
> 13.blood and fire
> 14.life's so strange
> 15.up in smoke
> 16.nashville
> 17.prince of darkness
> 18.no way to treat a friend
>
> 1,2 'crazy game' single jellis records 1985
> 3,4 from 'don't eat out of dented cans'
> 5 amy and michelle mollone recorded at haynes brook's studio, 1986ish.
> 6-8 from theatre emory's production of "curse of the starving class"
> 1986
> 9-12 variously live in 1987
> 13 from the original 'strange fire' album, 1987 14-18 from first epic
> sessions 1989
>
> all files are 128kbps/44khz stereo and i the quality is
> excellent.
>
> the fan who donated the server space would like to keep the ftp
> address private, and asks that you to email me if you would like to
> get the address. please do not post the address on the web, in email
> lists, or to
> news groups.
>
> also, please be considerate and if you are part of a group that can
> easily share files, consider designating one person to download the
> files and then share them instead of each person individually trying to
> download them from the server. the files will be available on the
> server for a week.
>
> if you have any server space you would like to
> share please email me so that we can make more shows available, i have
> some more great stuff that would be fun to share.
>
> thank you,
>
> janet
>
> _________________________________________________________
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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 20:11:34 est
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hey y'all--
i just had to interject here....'cus i am one of those moms....
my 7 yr old can actually knows all the words to ctf by heart and says his
favorite song is "bury my heart at wounded knee".  he begs me to take him to
an ig concert too....imagine that

have a good one
take care
peace, love and all things indigo
kris

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well, on the subject of first songs, i'll have to shamefully confess, i didn't
get into the girls until back in '96.  i was known at camp for having a heavy
obsession with all things musical.  one day, a girl in my archery class told
me that i ought to go talk to tammy, the resident "indigo girls freak".  we
sat on the floor of her cabin and listened to the self-titled album several
times through.  hooked ever since....

also, what about cool/weird dads?????
my dad has taken me to almost ever concert i've been to and even snuck my
brother and me to lilith fair.  dad's can be just as "hip" as moms, can they
not?

à bientôt,
~missy

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date:         wed, 10 mar 1999 20:46:23 est
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i love this indigo/mother thread...
my then eight year old daughter and i took a 3 month, 12,000 mile road trip
back in 96, and we listened to the indigo girls most of the way.

our family favorite was "southland in the springtime" because we sang it
alllllll the way through texas as we were heading towards louisiana. i
consider the nis cd the official sountrack of that time. whenever i hear it
now, it brings back so much joy and freedom and spirit of that summer
adventure.

  sarah is now 11 and has already been with me to hear them play at the
berkeley greek outdoor theater as well as the 98 lillith fair. one of the
extra perks of our mutual love of their music is that it is a subtle way to
slide in some more brainwashing before she completely shuts me out in the
throws of adolescent angst. the messages of community activism and  spirit,
courage and love are ones i want her to always value.

hoping ya'll are closer to fine,

katherine
san francisco

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the march trivia game at dug is underway! this month we are featuring
the ellen james society. to play go to www.daemonunderground.com
also we extended the february trivia contest to march 15th, so you still
have 5 days to enter!

flyer queen =)

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#1 ~ we'll start with the ig related revelation: the font that "indigo girls",
etc, is printed in on the cover of sots is called "georgia".  subtle humour?
i think so!

#2 ~ okay, fannie flagg's real name is patsy neal, and her parents names are
bill and marion.  the first setence of the last chapter of _fried green
tomatoes at the whistle stop cafe_ is "bill and marion neal, and their 8 year
old daughter patsy . . . "  just had to share.

item of interest:
#3 ~ seventeen magazine has a big article on glbt youth on page 202 of the
april issue.  of course, it's burried in the back and isn't mentioned on the
cover, and is hidden in the table of contents . . . aw well . . .

~ emb

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first, i'd like to thank janet deeply for organising the mp3 download, and
thank those who generously lend the space.

i'd like to convert the mp3 files into a format where i can write it to a cd
and play it on a regular cd player. does anyone know how? on a mac?

thanks

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the first song i heard was galileo, but the one i fell in love with was power
of two (which was the song that emily looked at me and smiled for a long time
during at my first concert:) heehee:)

pax, celeste:)

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cant pl;ay mpfiles on a regular cd player you can convert them to wavs
though and burn them on

on wed, 10 mar 1999 dorothy001@aol.com wrote:

> first, i'd like to thank janet deeply for organising the mp3 download, and
> thank those who generously lend the space.
>
> i'd like to convert the mp3 files into a format where i can write it to a cd
> and play it on a regular cd player. does anyone know how? on a mac?
>
> thanks
>
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1)i was planning on going camping for spring break, as i do every year. we
were planning on heading for north carolina - specifically, the linville
falls area...if anybody lives around there, could you tell me whether i'm
being utterly foolish? we've got the gear for winter camping, but not
closed-parkway-state-of-emergency-camping. is anybody between maryland and
florida having nice weather?

2)part ii of this year's trip is atlanta, to visit my grandfather in the
hospital. is anybody interesting playing in atlanta between monday and
wednesday? (igc- "sure, sarah, didn't you know? the indigo girls are playing
at the ____ retirement home in atlanta on monday!")

3)my band, baba yaga, is playing at coconuts cafe in baltimore tomorrow
night (thursday) at 8:30 pm. coconuts is at 311 w. madison street
(410)383-6064. we're fun. come see us!

thanks,
sarah

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hey people...

besides the awesome memories of concerts and meeting listees, i think my
favorite ig experience was having my chemistry prof come up to me after
hearing beth and i sing at a talent show and say, "you have to tell
me...where can i get my hands on some of that indigo stuff??!"
just so you can get the full visual effect, this is a small, balding man
in his late forties who talks about hydrogen bonds and erlenmeyer flasks
for a living.  i considered it a major breakthrough :) but then, i
s'pose that's the power of the girls...

shannon,
who is having a dandy old time, escaping ohio's storms in favor of
california sunshine... ;)

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i didn't see this posted, so here's the latest from daemon.

btw, i saw both bands (among others) perform at the daemon showcase in
nashville last month, and i must say, 6x blew me away!!!!!!  they play
very loud, very hard rock, but the songs they played at the showcase
were really good songs, with a good groove.  and, their lead singer
(sorry, can't remember her name) has a voice that complements the hard
edge of the music very well.  while 6x's music is very hard-edged, their
vocals, musicianship and songwriting are tight!  like i said, they were
the daemon band that blew me away this year.  amy was really groovin' to
their music at the showcase!  i'm really glad  to see amy sign a band
like that to daemon.  i think they will garner major label interest.

peace,

joan :-d


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hey everybody,

just a short note to let you know what's happening in the offices....

***march 16th release date***

march 16th marks the date of 6x and ph balance's cd
release.  pick up copies at your local cd store or order it
through our mail-order/web site.

6x - kung pow!
one thing we know to be true is that 6x rocks!  this record is
an action packed ride.  we like to call it crunchy pop punk with
an attitude.  it's a 6x thang...you'll understand.  but please don't
hurt yourself banging your head.

ph balance - ph balance
ph balance serves up refreshments for the soul.  their sound?  hip
hop beats under melodies so sweet.  ph stands fro pan howe, and
howe can she sang!  honey, your soul will respond refreshed and
reminded of many sweet things...

cd release parties
6x - march 26th @ the point
ph balance - march 20th @ the eyedrum

***daemon monthly special***
rock*a*teens - rock*a*teens
rock*a*teens - cry
kelly hogan - the whistle only dogs can hear

in celebration of their new release, golden time, on merge records we've
discounted their first two records and are offering kelly hogan's
solo release for a mere $8.00 each.   this is a bargain not to be missed!

limited quantities on the whistle only dogs can hear.

oh, and don't forget to pick up the new rock*a*teens at your
local store or the merge web site.  release date march 23rd.

***new look for daemon***
new pages, new sounds, new look...we're working on a new
site design with lots of surprises.  it's the bomb!  you'll have to
add a new bookmark though...we'll be daemonrecords.com.
cool huh?!  we should launch around the 15th.

oh, and if you have any suggestions for the new site e-mail us at
daemonrecs@monsterbit.com

***cool site of the month***
http://www.diysearch.com    man, is this cool!  everything you could possibly
want to find is here is the way of e-zines, music, arts, publishing, etc.
you can search for just what you're looking for or browse into some
great sites.  it's  "do it yourself" and we think there's nothing better than
that!

that's all for now...we'll be in touch regarding the new site.

peace,
the daemon staff


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nigc but important.

to see photos of oberlin's candlelight vigil held in matthew shepard's
honor, go to http://www.drik.org/wyoming .  drik is a organization that
takes photographs of third world countries; their aim is to present
accurate, respectful images that don't fuel the media-propelled
stereotypes of such nations.  one of their photographers was in oberlin
in october to give a speech; hearing about the vigil, he attended and
took photographs, which are now posted on the drik site.

each one of us had a very small candle, some of them almost entirely
melted down after our silent procession around tappan square (there's a
photo of the walk, it's just a streaming blur of light. you should've
seen it, this endless line of flames that stretched on and on like it
had neither beginning nor end). the procession ended at fairchild
chapel, where students were allowed to come to the front and speak to
those gathered.  one student, standing in the dim air, asked that we
raise our candles high.  go to the site and just look; i think it's
picture 3. amidst all the pain in that room, just look at the light that
shone on.

please feel free to forward this around.

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i just graduated with my degree last year, and for a while in college i thnk i had a little indigo cult going. let me explain......

it all started when i met an american exchange student who was really into ig - i was only listening to swamp ophelia and 4.5 then, and so only knew a few of their songs.....

later on, i ended up meeting a lecturer, an english student who went to american summer camp and came back loving ig, and a couple of american students who all loved ig.......

wow ---- ig love sure spreads fast, doesn't it?

john.


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hey y'all,

tiny bit of igc in the following . . .  but the most important thing is
to call your congressperson and call the nea!! additionally, the four
congresspeople listed at the end are on the natl. council for the arts
governing board (non-voting members) so call them too! and while you are
at at - get in touch with cinco puntos press and get a copy of the book!

thanks for the help. please forward in abundance.

peace,
annie

________________________________________________________
n.e.a. couldn't tell a mexican rebel's book by its cover

by julia preston     ny times

mexico city -- a macaw with scarlet and violet plumes soars across the
cover of a book called "the story of colors," inviting children to  read
a folk tale about mexican gods who took a gray world and filled it with
brilliant hues.

there are a few surprises, though, in this eye-catching bilingual
children's book just published by a small publisher in el paso, texas,
which won a grant from the national endowment for the arts.

its author is subcomandante marcos, the political mastermind and
military strategist of the zapatista guerrillas of southern mexico. on
the  inside flap, he appears in a photo with a black ski mask hiding his
face and bullet-laden ammunition belts slung across his chest.

on tuesday, the chairman of the endowment, william j. ivey -- who is
working to rebuild the agency after its recent reprieve from a death
sentence issued by congressional republicans  abruptly canceled the
grant for the book. ivey overruled a multilayered, year-long grant
approval process, acting within hours after the book was brought to his
attention by a reporter's phone call.

he said he was worried that some of the endowment's funds might find
their way to the zapatista rebels, who led an armed uprising in 1994
against  the government of mexico.

ivey's decision stunned the cinco puntos press, a shoestring  operation
that had laid out $15,000 to print 5,000 copies of the book, half of
which was to be paid by the endowment grant. the agency canceled grant
funds  of about $7,500, which was to have paid for about half of the
printing  cost. the books are ready to be distributed and carry the
endowment's logo  on the last page, together with an acknowledgment of
"generous support" from  the agency.

"this is spineless," said bobby byrd, a poet and editor of books on
border issues who runs the publishing company with his wife and daughter
from their home in el paso. "this book is essentially about diversity
and tolerance, everything the nea is supposed to stand for, and they
just don't have the courage to publish it."

"the story of colors" reflects a literary, sometimes whimsical side
that has distinguished subcomandante marcos, the only non-indian among
the zapatistas' highest leaders, from other steely latin american
guerrilla commanders. (his real name is rafael sebastian guillen
vicente, and he  is a former university graphics professor.)

mr. byrd said he had made clear in his grant proposal that no part of
the grant would go to the author, subcomandante marcos, because the
guerrilla leader had declared that he did not believe in copyright and
had  formally waived his rights in talks with the mexican press. mr.
byrd said the guadalajara press would be paid a small amount for the
artwork.

in the text the masked rebel leader describes himself as lighting up
his pipe, one of his hallmarks, and sitting down on a jungle pathway to
hear a tale from an indian elder named antonio. the old man recounts how
mythical gods grew bored with the universe when it was tinted only in
grey, and went about inventing colors one by one. in the end they pin
all the colors  on the tail feathers of the macaw.

the bird "goes strutting about just in case men and women forget how
many colors there are and how many ways of thinking, and that the world
will be happy if all the colors and ways of thinking have their place,"
the  text concludes.

the illustrations are bright, broad-stroked paintings of gods with
horns and bug-eyes done by domitila dominguez, a mexican indian artist.

spun in the sensuous tradition of latin storytelling, the tale  includes
elements that might be controversial in the mainstream american
children's book market. as the story opens, the text reads, "the men and
women  were sleeping or they were making love, which is a nice way to
become tired  and then go to sleep."

the double-page illustration shows a reclining naked woman in a sexual
embrace with figure that appears to be a male god.

there are no references to the zapatistas' cause or their military
tactics, but in a cover blurb, amy ray, a member of the indigo girls, a
grammy-winning american song duo, says, "this beautiful book reminds  us
that the zapatista movement is one of dignity that emanates from the
grassroots of the indigenous people of mexico."

"the most important thing is that it is a beautiful book," said byrd,
whose press specializes in bilingual children's books. "a lot of our
stories  in the united states have been cleaned up with a politically
correct sentiment, and so much detail has been washed away."

he added, "i can imagine how someone would rewrite this for an anglo
audience," referring to non-hispanic americans. "there wouldn't be
anybody smoking or making love."

"the story of colors" was originally published in spanish in 1997 by a
press in guadalajara, mexico called colectivo callejero, which  supports
the zapatistas' cause.

byrd said that he provided a copy of the original to the endowment  when
he applied for the grant to translate it in march 1998. his first
request, for $30,000 to translate a total of five books, passed two
levels of  review at the agency but the funds were cut back to $15,000.
byrd said he  conferred repeatedly with literature experts at the
endowment when he chose to  leave "the story of colors" in a revised
grant request he presented to  translate only two books.

cinco puntos press (the name means five points in spanish) received a
written notice in february that the funds had been approved. the only
step left was for the agency to send the money.

ivey, the endowment chairman, said that he was not concerned about the
book's contents and had not seen the finished printed book. when he
went over the grant records monday night, he said, he became worried
about rights payments, which the el paso press had contracted to make to
the publishing group in mexico.

"there was an uncertainty about the ultimate destination of some part
of the funds," ivey said. "i am very aware about disbursing taxpayer
dollars for americans' cultural life, and it became clear to me as
chairman  that this just wasn't right for the agency. it was an
inappropriate use of government funds."

an endowment official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said
that it is very unusual for the chairman to step in at the last moment
to override the work of several review committees, including the
26-member national council on the arts, which includes six federal
lawmakers.

when republicans gained control of the congress in 1995, they were
frustrated with the endowment's support for art works they regarded as
offensive and vowed to eliminate the agency. but the house moderated
its views under election year pressures and voted overwhelmingly in july
1998 to keep the agency alive.

end
___________________________________________________________________
cinco puntos press:
2709 louisville avenue, el paso, texas 79930
915-566-9072
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nea phone is: 202-682-5400. website: http://204.178.35.192/
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ex-officio members of natl. council on the arts (us congresspersons):

u.s. senator richard durbin (d-il)
dick@durbin.senate.gov
sd-462 dirksen senate office building, washington, dc 20510
202/224-2152

u.s. senator jeff sessions (r-al)
senator@sessions.senate.gov
728 hart senate office building, washington, dc 20510
202/224-4124

u.s. representative cass ballenger (r-nc)
cass.ballenger@mail.house.gov
2182 rayburn house office building
washington, d.c. 20515-3310
202-225-2576
1-800-477-2576 toll free (within state of nc)

u.s. representative nita lowey (d-ny)
222 mamaroneck avenue
suite 310
white plains, ny 10605
914-428-1707


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does anybody know what happened to billy pilgrim. (emily did backup vox on
insomniac off of their first album)?

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why lookee here at the subtext.

> a book called "the story of colors," inviting children to...
see and internalize that it's author
> ...appears in a photo with a black ski mask hiding his
> face and bullet-laden ammunition belts slung across his chest.

ya know, it's like i always say: kids today don't have enough
ammo-toting role models in print.

jill

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date:         thu, 11 mar 1999 15:12:05 -0500
reply-to:     kelly fairbairn <fairbk@sage.edu>
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hello everyone...

just a tip for you west-coast types.  this woman is incredible and she's
coming out your way.  if you can, please go see her.  i don't think you'll
be disappointed.

kelly


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subject: kris delmhorst update #2

hi everyone,
i think my west coast plans are finally all squared away.  because there have
been so many changes, i'll just send you the whole thing again here, all
corrected & up to the minute.  because of a few things like wrong phone #'s in
the old ones, you should probably just take this one as the gospel truth and
shred all those previous things i sent you.

okay here is the officially sanctioned gig list for march & early april... see
you on one coast or the other!   *kris

chapter 1: east coast shows

     friday 3/12 @ the bull run, shirley, mass
     i'll be opening for lui collins here in the western hinterlands of
     boston

     saturday 3/13 @ the somerville theater, somerville, mass
     i'll make a cameo apperance at the 7th annual boston winter folk
     festival featuring such talents as jess klein, faith soloway, kevin
     so, & more.  i'll play a song or two and also indulge in a tribute to
     the mighty 70's which may be cello-oriented.  this will be a very
     swell show to see.  davis square somerville.  628-3390 for tix & info

     chapter 2: west coast shows
     monday 3/15 @ the hopvine, seattle wa
     507 ave e, (206) 328-3120. 8pm.  3 songwriters in the round.

     tuesday 3/16 @ the snake & weasel, portland or
     1720 se 12th ave, (503) 232-8338..  9pm.  opening for someone tba

     thursday 3/18 @ the ok hotel, seattle wa
     212 alaskan way .  (206) 621-7903 10:00-12:00. i'm in the lounge. cool
     spoken word in the back room.  $6 for both.

     friday 3/19 @ the tequila bar, olympia wa
     2101 harrison.  (360) 956-0724 9:00pm - 1:00am (gasp) (expect many
     breaks)

     sunday 3/21 @ the hotel utah, san francisco, ca
     500 4th st (415) 421-8308 8:00pm, other acts to follow

     wednesday 3/24 @ strings, emeryville, ca
     6320 san pablo ave (510) 653-5700, i open for noe venable, david
     sobel, lori b

     *new show* thursday, march 25 @ morgan's coffee & tea, monterey, ca
        8:00pm, edie carey opens. (831) 373-5601 (new phone #).  498
        washington st by all accounts this is a really nice place, especially
        when filled with humans with ears!

     *new show* friday 3/26 @ dylan's pub, san francisco, ca
        this is supposed to be a really great welsh pub.  i'll play with
        tamson finn and 1 other local (ca) artist.  show starts at 9, i'm pm
        at 9:45.  call (415) 641-1416 for more info.

     chapter 3: home again
     thursday 4/1 jackson mann community center, allston ma "can you hear
     this boston" benefit cd release show w/ mark erelli, jabe beyer,
     pamela means, 1-877-247-2737.  this is a cool new compilation i'm on
     which benefits an adult literacy campaign.

     wednesday 4/7 @ the iron horse, northampton, mass opening for erica
     wheeler 7pm

     thursday 4/15 @ club passim, cambridge, mass
     big big solo taxday show!  i'll have the whole night to play with and
     i'll tell you more later but it's never too early to reserve seats.
     (617)492-7679

     vinal ave mondays in april at the tir na nog

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date:         thu, 11 mar 1999 15:14:03 -0500
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on thu, 11 mar 1999, josh mortenson wrote:

> does anybody know what happened to billy pilgrim. (emily did backup vox on
> insomniac off of their first album)?

        only that they're on the eddie's attic schedule for later this
month (or maybe it's next month - i don't remember) so they're still
around.
        mandy


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                                -emily saliers, nc chapel hill, nov. 1987

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                                -eilis monahan

        "hick pride! it's kinda like gay pride, except we have shotguns!"
                                -darius wei

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date:         thu, 11 mar 1999 17:20:43 est
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hi all,

i just heard my first non-commercial ig song, "problem child" thanks to janet
and that generous mystery person who donated the server space. do those of you
who already have boots remember that thrill in hearing the very first one?

i am pretty computer illiterate, but through some mysterious intervention by
the great mother goddess of all things indigo, i figured out how to download
on to a zip drive, find a converter on the net and voila, problem child is
singing out soulfully and i am soooooooooooooooo thankful.

thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou to all of you wonderful kind souls who walk
in the spirit of generosity and make the time and effort to pass on the magic.
all that good kharma is gonna come back someday ;-)

everywhere i turn all the beauty just keeps shaking me...

katherine

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date:         thu, 11 mar 1999 17:58:52 -0500
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question...
  why in bury my heart does amy scream "number 12!"??????  i'm not so sure
what she means....

thanks,
chrissy

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date:         thu, 11 mar 1999 19:57:42 est
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since sulli seems to keep popping up in the letters lately, i thought i'd let
everyone know about a few things =)

the interview that she gave a few months to peterson tuners has finally
surfaced!!   you can read it at:
http://www.petersontuners.com/intv/intv1.htm

also, if you're in the atlanta area, and are also a xena fan, you may want to
check out this.   she hosts the monthly xena night at "my sister's room", a
night club in decatur.    the next one will be on march 21st, at 7:00 pm.
i've heard she's *quite* the hostess, and you're guaranteed to have a great
time.   sing-a-longs, trivia games, contests, ambrosia shooters.    if you're
a xena fan, or want to be a xena fan, this is something you want to see!

=)
lisa

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(i won't stop until get every last folkie to be an indie rocker)

from the matador records email update:

>come and cat power appear on a forthcoming comp. of live
>tracks from kboo-portland, drinking from puddles (kill rock
>stars). come does "hurricane," and cat power, "we dance" (a
>pavement cover, yes). other luminaries include elliott
>smith, cadallaca, hazel, poison idea, geraldine fibbers,
>lydia lunch, prolapse, kristen hersch, soul junk, and dead
>moon.

this sounds so good, it merits exclamation points.  come! (please tell
me you've listened to them by now and all my nagging hasn't been in
vain) cat power! (ditto) geraldine fibbers!  kristen hersh!  ohhh.
could someone in portland or that area please help me figure out how to
get a hold of this radio station?
(and incidentally, kill rock stars is the record label, not some
solicited advice on what to do when the concert sucked.)

jill

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mmm, matador.

cat power show dates

3/15 - new york - tonic. 2 shows, billed as "chan marshall" solo
piano....she'll be providing accompaniment to the (silent) film the
passion of joan of arc

3/18 - annandale-on-hudson, ny - bard college- olin auditorium

please pleasepleaseplease go to these shows. (veronica? kris? babs?
jami???  new yorkers, you're so lucky.)
and, um, boot them for me if you do?  i'll kiss the ground you spit on.

jill

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oh my gawd!!  sulli is cooler then ever!!  she was a boner!!  yeah!!!
she played t-bone!!  heeee
carol
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date:         thu, 11 mar 1999 19:36:58 -0800
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after their last cd "bloom" didn't do to well they decided to take
some time off. sounds like they may be back (yea!!!) if you live near
atlanta go see these guys!!! you will not be diapointed!

dev

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   did anybody watch mtv's total request live on the 10th (2 days ago) to
see if nkotb's "hangin' tough" made it?
   kudos to the folks on the list that came up with that evilly amusing
idea (i ferget who it was) and to all the people who forwarded it on...

   "i'd like to see nkotb's "hangin' tough", because they're, like, such a
timeless band, and donny is so cuute, and..."

   darius

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does anyone remember if it was vh1 or mtv that had the behind the scenes
show of lilith fair?  my friend had it on tape, but she lost it. so i'm
trying to figure out what station it was on in case they show it again.
thanks,
~renee
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the behind the scenes lilith fair stuff was on vh1 - i think it was on
last summer

-di

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fyi:


>tune in monday night (3/15)
>to the tonight show with jay leno
>musical guest shawn mullins
>returns for his second appearance
>performing  "shimmer"
>~ 11:35 pm on nbc ~
>don't miss it !
>---------------------------------------------------------
>connect w/shawn mullins online at:
>http://www.shawn-mullins.com/

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hi all...
i've been off and on this list for the last couple of years.
i'm just curious - how many acoustic duos are out there, subscribing to the
list? i mean acoustic duos doing similar stuff to ig? i'm in one... but it dit
not start out as an attempt to copy. it just happened, sort of... :-) and i
guess any female duo with acoustic guitars doing lots of harmonies would be
bound to be compared, right?

let me also mention that i'm in stockholm, sweden, where this kind of music is
not very well known. we toured the u.s. last summer, and finally learned how to
label our music... "american folk music with a touch of swedish melancholy".

anyway, i just watched one of the girls' videos and we have no plans on trying
to compete... *lol* they are simply the best...

/fanny

http://littlefailures.just.nu

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(yes, this post deals, once again, with my "little" xena obsession.  i
can't help it.  i must have this thing for really cool two-woman teams
with a blonde and a brunette and . . . never mind.)

*chuckle*  i mentioned recently that i'd written a piece of xena
fanfiction about reincarnation and amy and emily being xena and
gabrielle's reincarnations.  ever since i posted it to my website, i've
gotten email from people saying that they've read it and gone back and
listened through their entire ig cd collection, or didn't realize how many
ig songs they'd heard and liked, and wanted recommendations for which cds
to buy, or had never heard ig but wanted to now.  *grin*  i never figured
on making any converts . . . well, not consciously anyway . . . but hey.

so what i'm wondering is, based on that whole toaster-oven thing (yes, i
know it's a joke), if i make ten new ig converts, do i get a martin
guitar?  (d-35, please, oh please!)
*giggle*

--shanie, who on monday really *did* get a new martin dr and named it "the
gabwhacker" after gabrielle's staff

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it might one day come to this.  it has.  i'm not afraid."
* "you've always said that i was the brave one.  look at you now.  if this
is to be our destiny, let's see it out together."
        -- gabrielle and xena, in "one against an army"

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anyone have any background info on this song?
(i'm wondering about stuff gleaned from pre-song comments that might be
captured on boots)
also, any clue when amy wrote it?

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hey, i'd like to read your fan fiction, how do i find it?

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on fri, 12 mar 1999 rainnriver@aol.com wrote:

> hey, i'd like to read your fan fiction, how do i find it?

        erm . . . oh yeah.  it's up at

        http://members.xoom.com/cornflakegrl/xena/reincarnation.html

for your reading pleasure/horror at my frightening levels of obsession.
compliments, comments, "oh my god, you're insane" missives, and email
equivalents of hurled rotten produce and beer bottles, are all welcome.
;)

        screaming in cathedrals,
        shanie
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it might one day come to this.  it has.  i'm not afraid."
* "you've always said that i was the brave one.  look at you now.  if this
is to be our destiny, let's see it out together."
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sorry, that reply wasn't suppossed to go to the whole list.

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i just thought that i would share my recent indigo moment will y'all! first
off i have to say that my best friend and i sing the indigo girls (i sing
amy's part and she (wendy) sings emily's. we record ourselves and then play it
back, really it's a hobby, we love singing the girls it's so great! my 8 yr.
old son's favorite song is closer to fine, he often asks me if i am going to
go "on concert."
well, i was at wendy's (the fast food place) with my son and we sat down to
eat and low and behold what do my ears hear! yes, it was the girls! ( now you
have to understand i am in az and no one plays them on the radio!) wendy's was
playing closer to fine. i looked at my son and said, "hey buddy listen to the
music!"  he looks at me with the most surprised look and says, "wow mom, it's
you and wendy!" i started laughing. it was the cutest thing! i don't think i
will ever forget that one!  kids say the darnedest things!
~k

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>well, i was at wendy's (the fast food place) with my son and we sat down to
>eat and low and behold what do my ears hear! yes, it was the girls! ( now you
>have to understand i am in az and no one plays them on the radio!) wendy's was
>playing closer to fine.

this is shocking!  after all wendy's (the fast food place) pulled all their
advertising from the ellen show way back when so as not to support gay
issues.  and now they are playing music by a lesbian duo inside their
restaurants.  man, dave thomas needs to make up his damn mind ;).

greg

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someone wrote:
>>i just think that at a decent sized club, for 15 bucks, we could at least
>>get an hour from shawn.

someone replied:
>you will get an hour!(see below).  and shawn is a signed artist with a hit
>record and video and a grammy nomination that has a crew and band to
>support, i think 10-15 bucks is pretty good (actually i haven't seen a
>ticket price higher than 13.50, i was just rounding up).  trust me, 10-15
>bucks per head does not cover his costs!  i'm not meaning to sound
>righteous here, just wanted to issue some facts.

i personally believe that no matter how much the tickets cost you should
get a full length show.  i have never known any artist to perform for just
an hour unless as part of a festival like newport or lilith.  i agree that
the price was right and maybe i got what i paid for.  however, i find that
the price of the ticket should not affect the show length.  if that were
the case then barbara streisand would need to perform for 3 weeks straight
:).  sure shawn is a signed artist with a band and all that to support--all
the more reason to expect a full show.  if shawn were at my local
coffeehouse then i'd expect a 30 minute show.  but he was at a major venue,
had already lugged his whole band to chicago and was already on stage.  so
why not put in a full set.  and my original beef was that his set list
showed that he was to play several other songs and he just bailed
early--hence my disappointment.

>...and not to argue.....just to make myself clear.....shawn is the
>headliner at the shows i mentioned, not the opener

all the more reason imo to perform a full set.  ig had a ten dollar tour
back in 93 where they played little clubs for ten bucks.  and those were
full shows.  ok i think i have made my point.  i too love shawn's music and
would not miss him should he stroll through these parts again.  he just has
a lot of great material that i would have liked to hear.  take shimmer for
instance--that is his next single--it is also a song he wrote a looong time
ago and is on his older albums.  he has a lot of great material to play.
my chump change on the issue :)

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hi--

i'm doing a senior thesis paper on the indigo girls and i need information on
the song "closer to fine", i.e. symbolic lyrics, inspiration behind it,
background info., etc.  any information at all about the song would be greatly
appreciated.  thanks!!

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hey, everyone!
        hope to see as many philly folks as possible at sonia's show at the tin
angel on saturday night! two shows, 7:30 and 10:30.
deb


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hmm.. i was thinking about this song the other day, and it just occured to me
that i didnt even know what it was about for the longest time, which some of
you still might not know.... so, here goes!

* most of this song is in reference to her college experience at emory
university.
1.- "the best thing you've ever done for me  (her philosophy teacher), is to
help me take my life less seriously"  (this line is the base point of the
song.... btw)

2.-"well darkness has a hunger that's insatiable" ~ she was hungry for
knowledge, thus, filling her lightness...

3.- "and lightness has a call that's hard to hear" ~college is a bitch!  (the
learning part)

4.-"i wrapped my fear around me like a blanket, sailed my ship of safety till
i sank it, im crawling on your shore" ~ i believe here ms. saliers was
actually lost in a class... she was desperate for her teachers help...

5.-"i went to see the dr. of philosopy, with a poster of rasputin and a beard
down to his knee..." ~ this was an actual (and still is) professor at emory..
yes, he really has a poster of rasputin  (-:

6.-" he graded my performance, he said he could see thru me" ~ yes, even emily
got nervous writing essay's for overintelligent professors...(her
"performance")

7.-"i spent four years prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper, and i was
free"  ~  yes!  she graduated!  her paper, her diploma, in other words...took
her 4 years, and she was prostrate.. "weak"...

8.-"i stopped by the bar at 3 am.. to seek.. da da da" ~  hmmm, i think we all
know what this is about... bad times at school, relieve yourself at the bar...

9.- the chorus and ending i believe are self explanatory in some parts..
others, i think only emily could answer... her "going to the doctor"  is
obviously her phil. professor... and "going to the mountains", well,  maybe
she went there to relax, study.. who knows.. maybe it was just an imaginary
tour..."looked to the children", dunno... ask emily  (-:  "drank from the
fountain" ~ probably, just a way of stating that she has obtained some
knowledge... about school and life simultaneously...

10.-"the less i seek my source for some difinitive, closer i am to fine" ~
hmm, my interpretation is that the less she goes on trying to define her
actions, solve the worlds problems, and trying to be perfect, then the easier
life becomes, and happiness is gained in the process...

damn, it really is a powerful song, ya'll... sometimes i shrug it off myself.
but there y ou have it, my interpretation...
thanks for listening,
~~trooper  (-:

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we went and saw michelle malone at the tractor last nite and all i can say
is look out portland! i'm sorry i don't have a set list. she was phenomenal
as usual.  we gave her a gift from our store and lo and behold! she
actually came by the store today! so i had her sign all my cd's and had my
pic taken.

and to think i was going to go home early today.

ryan blackhawke  (still floating)
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i saw these guys open for melissa etheridge in '94...they rocked!!!!   i spent
about a year trying to find a cd by them.....i finally got one for x-mas, and
enjoyed it, but not as much as i did when i saw them live.    could someone
send me some background,maybe the names of other cd's, or where i could obtain
other recordings?
thanks

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"trooper" wrote:

> 1.- "the best thing you've ever done for me  (her philosophy teacher), is to
> help me take my life less seriously"  (this line is the base point of the
> song.... btw)

i'm not sure that she's talking about her philosophy teacher here.  the
idea i get from the song is that she learned to take life less seriously
from some other source, and that she found her philosophy teacher's
input to be mostly slaving away to get her lambskin, rather than having
any real lasting impact on her life.

> 2.-"well darkness has a hunger that's insatiable" ~ she was hungry for
> knowledge, thus, filling her lightness...
>
> 3.- "and lightness has a call that's hard to hear" ~college is a bitch!  (the
> learning part)

actually, i'd disagree with this.  darkness, the tendency for society
and individuals to tend toward selfishness and chaos, is indeed an
insatiable hunger, one that will take over if not actively fought
against.  lightness, applying energy towards living with love and peace,
is a difficult, rather quiet voice to hear, even in today's "modern"
society.

> and "going to the mountains", well,  maybe
> she went there to relax, study.. who knows.. maybe it was just an imaginary
> tour..."looked to the children", dunno... ask emily  (-:  "drank from the
> fountain" ~ probably, just a way of stating that she has obtained some
> knowledge... about school and life simultaneously...

drinking from the fountain, going to the mountain, looking to the
children -- these are all images drawn from protestant hymns.  emily is
referring to her background in christianity, and how, despite looking
deep within this potential source of wisdom, through many of its
avenues, she still wasn't finding the answers that would truly satisfy
the questioning part of her soul.

> 10.-"the less i seek my source for some difinitive, closer i am to fine" ~
> hmm, my interpretation is that the less she goes on trying to define her
> actions, solve the worlds problems, and trying to be perfect, then the easier
> life becomes, and happiness is gained in the process...

perhaps.  or perhaps she's saying that the less she looks for a
definitive answer to life's mysteries, the less she tries to apply the
absolutes of christianity or any other organized form of philosophy to
her own life, the less she finds herself worrying about whether she's
"doing it right" or not.

i've been down this path, personally, and can vouch for it.  once you
let go of the external do's and don'ts of organized religion, the easier
it is to face daily life without fear of punishment, either temporally
or in the great hereafter.

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> after all wendy's (the fast food place) pulled all their
> advertising from the ellen show way back when so as not to support gay
> issues.  and now they are playing music by a lesbian duo inside their
> restaurants.  man, dave thomas needs to make up his damn mind ;).

to complicate matters further, i have heard wendy's commercials on
lesbigay radio here in chicago.

maybe they figure no homophobes know about ig?

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hey! :-)

this is what emily says on the scholastic cassette about ctf. :-)

                                                                 -heather

" i wrote closer to fine probably about 8 years ago. i was sitting on a
porch in vermont, and i was trying to get my life in order, and i was
thinking about all the different sources that we look to for healing...and
one was you know..looking to the youth and innocence of children, and one
was going to the doctor to get your physical health taken care of, and one
was turning to god or philosophy and so on. and so i was thinking about all
those different things where you look for your answers, and what i sort of
came up with was that we draw from each of those sources, sort of a
reminder to myself not to get too stressed out....to try to take all things
into account. it's sort of a reminder for balance in life."

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i can't help but get in on this explication, since i did it for seven years in
college -- and would you believe that i didn't get that blasted english lit
degree after all.  i ended up in the hospital with strep pneumonia and i quit,
but i'm still darn good at explications of poetry.  now, my comments are
limited to the parts of the song that are not directly derived from personal
experiences that i have no knowlege of, so i have to stipulate to that.

<< 1.- "the best thing you've ever done for me  (her philosophy teacher), is
to
help me take my life less seriously"  (this line is the base point of the
song.... btw)  i'll buy that.

2.-"well darkness has a hunger that's insatiable" ~ she was hungry for
knowledge, thus, filling her lightness...

3.- "and lightness has a call that's hard to hear" ~college is a bitch!  (the
learning part) i was thinking that she's making a more generalized statement
on the difficulty in doing what one knows she is supposed to do, i.e. the
"lightness" as compared to the "hunger" or pull of self-indulgent things, the
"darkness".

4.-"i wrapped my fear around me like a blanket, sailed my ship of safety till
i sank it,  i hear this as a statement of how she kept to safety, like maybe
accepting help or protection from her parents, until she had to stand on her
own two feet, when she broke away "sank" that "ship of safety", or got as far
as she was going to go without taking some risks.

7.-"i spent four years prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper, and i was
free"  ~  yes!  she graduated!  her paper, her diploma, in other words...took
her 4 years, and she was prostrate.. "weak"...being "prostrate" would mean
bowing down or being subordinate to her teachers and the system until she got
that paper and got up off the ground and was free.

9.- the chorus and ending i believe are self explanatory in some parts..
  "going to the doctor" this may have originally meant a specific person, her
prof, but        i think that she's also commenting on the ways individuals
seek out answers by going to gurus, in our culture, doctors.
  "going to the mountains" is a classic allusion to seeking answers from a
deity.  all  religions have a reference to a deity handing down laws or other
answers to kings... two major examples are moses and the ten commandments,
from yhwh on mt. sinai, and the stele of hammurabi depicts the babyloninan
king receiving law from a deity, who i think is marduk.
"looked to the children", still searching for those answers, going back to the
"wisdom" of children who may be free from learned complications of simpler
concepts.
"fountains" are also sources of divine wisdom in ancient literature

10.-"the less i seek my source for some difinitive, closer i am to fine" ~
i read this line as an irony of her life, discovering that the search itself
was keeping her from finding answers so when she was able to stop pouring so
much energy into searching, she is able to relax and realize that what she
seeks is not so far away in the first place.


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>i mean acoustic duos doing similar stuff to ig?

my partner and i do some ig as well as material by others and some we have
written.  lana plays acoustic and electric, i play bass and harmonica and we
have a drummer, so we do ig our way and have a blast doing it!  we love
doing the harmonies.

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subject:      indigo font (georgia)

you can download the georgia font (it's the font used on the
sots album cover) someone mentioned in a post at this location:

for the 32 bit version
http://www.download.com/cgi-bin/dl2?pc-0-23228-
ftp://ftp%2emicrosoft%2ecom/developr/drg/truetype/georgi32%2eexe

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peace,
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and express it the best you can.
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i read the ig at wendy's post and wanted to also tell you that they
aren't the only store to play ig.  right after the weekend after my
best friend got me hooked on indigo, i went to my second job (bath &
body works) and on the pre-made tapes the store sends us to play, was
closer to fine.  when we received the tape for the following month to
play, it had shame on you.  i guess the heads at bbw also have a thing
for the girls.  made my job a little easier knowing i would hear at
least one song i liked during my shifts.
  steph


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i'm sure someone already posted this, but there's some info about the new
album on the epic site. eight songs are listed as being already recorded:

faye tucker
go
sister
soon to be nothing
philosophy of loss
gone again
ozilene
compromise

also, they've confirmed lilith dates in atlanta, chicago, toronto and a
few other cities, mostly at the end of august, as well as newport folk
festival on august 8th. :)

have we heard anything about philosophy of loss, ozilene, or compromise?
i've heard of the other songs before... just curious!

--amy

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i have to have my twopenneth worth on this song!!!!

i think the whole song is about finding inner peace and
spirituality.....breaking from her roots in christianity (hence
darkness..........lightness.....) to considering other religions and
philosophies...and coming up with the conclusion that the less we chase
these things the lighter life becomes!

basically i'm with freida on this one!!!

i dont contribute to the list very often but i always read every message and
really enjoy it:)

thanks all!!

diane - aka nesbit

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hey y'all--

just eight songs on the new album?  doesn't that seem like a small number?
any info on the release date?

hmmmm....
lauren

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in a message dated 99-03-13 11:56:29 est, you write:

>  have we heard anything about philosophy of loss, ozilene, or compromise?
>  i've heard of the other songs before... just curious!

i would think that "ozilene" is probably the song that everyone thinks is
called "oh osalyn" or "oh rosalyn"

"philosophy of loss" is an emily song, i think.  the lyrics for that song were
part of her "art" that she did for the earthchallenge auction back in
december.

lisa

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what??  no winthrop no the song list.  again?  i still haven't gotten over
it not being on sots.  wasn't "compromise" one of the new songs em sang at
the cincy suffragette. hmm, or was that cleveland?  whichever came second,
i get them mixed up.

also, about the ctf analysis.  the lyrics --"i wrapped my fear around me
like a blanket, sailed my ship of safety till i sank it, i'm crawling on
date: mon, 15 mar 1999 14:04:01 +0000
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your shore"--are undoubtedly about me, trying to make it through some
horrible times in life before i found the girls.  ;-)  now that was back in
'89 and i'm happy to still be crawling on their shores, or, holding on to
their music as the case may be.  i sing that lyric to them whenever i see
'em in concert.

peace,
lisa

"the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less
seriously, it's only life afterall."--emily saliers

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with only 8 songs on the list i'm willing to bet they're nowhere near
done.  they usually have 12 songs on an album.  hopefully (crosses
fingers) winthrop will be upcoming.

lisa tatonetti wrote:
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> what??  no winthrop no the song list.  again?  i still haven't gotten over
> it not being on sots.
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could someone post the site addy?
thanks!

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www.indigogirls.com

sarah t. rosenblum wrote:
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> could someone post the site addy?
> thanks!
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hey kids - here's the link!

http://www.epiccenter.com/epiccenter/indigogirls/artistupdate.qry

peace,
lisa j.

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date:         sat, 13 mar 1999 13:11:54 -0600
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they're going back into the studio in april, i'm assuming they're
recording more songs - 8 isn't enough in this case. *giggle* forgive me,
it's spring break and i can't resist a pun. :)

release date is after labor day, according to the epic site.

:) amy

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for those of you without (or with!) web access, here's the info from the
epic site!
chris ii


recording
indigo girls began work on their sixth studio recording for epic in
february. they recorded five new songs in london at john reynolds' studio.
john is the drummer in senead o'connor's band, which also includes claire
kenny on bass, carol isaacs on keyboards and accordion, and caroline dale on
cello, all of whom play on the tracks. natasha atlas also added some unique
backing vocals on a song entitled faye tucker. other songs recorded are go,
sister, soon be to nothing, and philosophy of loss.
in late february, army and emily recorded pre-production tracks in woodstock
for gone again, ozilene, and compromise. ric danko and garth hudson (from
the band) played on gone again and ozilene. jerry marotta and sara lee
played drums and bass respectively, except on compromise which featured
josephine wiggs on bass and kate schellenbach on drums.

full recording sessions for the album begin in early april with malcolm
burns producing and mixing. we hope to complete the album by early summer
and release it after labor day.


touring
lilith fair festival dates are confirmed for atlanta on july 24th as well as
august 19-31. the august run includes chicago, toronto, milwaukee,
minneapolis, and denver, wrapping up in edmonton on august 31. also, we are
confirming the newport folk festival on august 8th.

journey of hope
"journey of hope - from violence to healing," is a two-week speaking tour
featuring the thoughts and feelings of families of murder victims, who are
also opposed to the death penalty. the indigo girls take a break from
recording and head to nashville, tennessee on april 12, to perform a benefit
concert with steve earle, emmylou harris, and jackson brown at the famous
ryman auditorium in nashville.

cuba
cuba is the setting for, "music bridge.... over troubled waters". indigo
girls t eam up with a legendary roster of american and european musicians to
meet and write songs with their cuban counterparts, march 21-29 in havana.
indigo girls, and 35 other american and european musicians, such a peter
buck of r.e.m., mick fleetwood, jimmy buffet, burt bacharach, don was, andy
summers, stewart copeland, ben folds five, chuck d., timothy b. schmit
(eagles), joan osborne, mavericks (raul malo), lisa loeb, montell jordan,
brenda russell, the chieftans (paddy maloney), beth nielsen chapman, john
hiatt, mark hudson, mi'shell nge'de'cello, michael franti (spearhead), lee
roy parnell, peter framton, richie sambora, duncan shiek, dave koz, and gary
burr will collaborate with the cream of the crop of cuban music makers. juan
de marcos and ruben gonzalez of buena vista social club, papa terry and
yosvany terry of columna b, los ban ban (juan formell, poopi), chuco valdez,
orlando "maraca" valle, pablo milanes, sierra maestra, and sintesis, are the
cuban musicians on tap for this historic event, cuban and western song
writers working side by side. this is a totally non-commercial event that is
meant to bridge the gap between two cultures for the sake of songwriting and
making music. a free concert featuring some of the newly created works, plus
some existing ones, is scheduled for sunday, march 28th. "cuba, with it's
legendary musicians, songs, and hypnotic musical rhythms and rich cultural
history promises to be magical, "says music bridges founder alan scott. look
for a possible video documentary of the project in cuba in the near future.

honor the earth
look for a new honor the earth tour in the year 2000. find out about honor
the earth by visiting their web site: www.honorearth.com.

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hey all!

i am not sure if you had seen this yet, so i coppied the the info from the web
site.  enjoy!

babs

lilith updates!
"you can also subscribe by sending an email to lilithfair-news-
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subject. no need to include the quote marks. but you knew that."

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in all this discussion of ctf, i was again reminded of what a
taken-for-granted song it is.  we hear those opening chords, and it's like,
"well, here's closer to fine.  yay."

but man, it's such a good song.  musically and lyrically.

and plus, it's the song that every self-respecting, hiking-boot wearing,
coffee-drinking, summer-camp-going, open-minded, fellow-human-loving,
in-another-life-woulda-been-a-hippie would-be guitar god first learns to
strum.

another thing that struck me just now is how the mark of a good writer is
the ability to "turn a phrase"...to put a few words together in such a way
as to make a person smile in appreciation when he/she reads or hears them.
and the phrase "closer to fine"...what a turn of phrase!  so simple, yet so
perfect.  classic.

i mean, can you imagine if the mona lisa had been frowning?  or if the
eiffel tower was outlined in neon?  or if emily had written, "and the less i
seek my source for some definitive, the better off i'll be..."

ah, emily.  we love you.  (yes, i know she's not on the list.)

justin

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hey y'all...
my friend has an original strange fire album that she wants to sale. it is in
excellent condition and she has even opened for them on tour. unfortunately
she is real low on cash and is having to get rid of it and a few other things.
if anyone is interested please let me know...it would be a great help.
thanks, lindsay
l7e7b7@aol.com

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could someone tell us where to find the most resent faqs?

kim & rhea

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l7e7b7@aol.com wrote:
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> hey y'all...
> my friend has an original strange fire album that she wants to sale.

what is the "original" strange fire album?  were there 2 releases of
this album?  how does one know if they have an original?  are the covers
different or something?

elaine

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the original strange fire was released in 1987 on the independent indigo
records, and track 6 was emily's song high horse.  the epic re-release
was in 1989 and track 6 was get together.

i also have an original strange fire for sale.... anyone interested????

elaine bean wrote:
>
> what is the "original" strange fire album?  were there 2 releases of
> this album?  how does one know if they have an original?  are the covers
> different or something?
>
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reply-to:     everlasting gobstopper <dragonjen@spydee.net>
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and i forgot to mention that the original is only available (if you can
find it) on vinyl.  mine is in perfect condition - no nicks or scratches
- plays beautifully.  and high horse is a must-hear.

i wrote:
>
> the original strange fire was released in 1987 on the independent indigo
> records, and track 6 was emily's song high horse.  the epic re-release
> was in 1989 and track 6 was get together.
>
> i also have an original strange fire for sale.... anyone interested????

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date:         sat, 13 mar 1999 19:44:45 -0800
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since we are dissecting songs tonight, which my best friend and i are
fond of doing with the girls music, would someone be so kind as to
explain to us what emily is singing about in the wood song.  i bought
swamp ophelia this past summer, and didn't start listening to it until
a few weeks ago, and now i am in love with it.  this is the one song
we can't seem to find the meaning behind.
  thanks.

  steph


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is anyone on the list from iowa besides me?  just wondering.

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   i wonder if somebody help me
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   i'm looking forward your instruction.
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<< since we are dissecting songs tonight, which my best friend and i are
fond of doing with the girls music, would someone be so kind as to
explain to us what emily is singing about in the wood song >>

its cool because my friends and i are going to sing the wood song at my
sister's bat mitzvah in may...(the rabbi is really cool)...and i don't know
what emily meant it to mean, but we see it as about how you have to stick out
the rough times to really achieve happiness..."the prize is always worth the
rocky ride"  ...and that it wouldn't be the same without bumps along the
way..."if the weather holds, then we'll have missed the point"...life isn't
always going to work out the way you want it to, but that's o k ... having to
overcome obstacles just makes you stronger...

i have a feeling that she's talking about either a friendship or a
relationship because of the "we're in the boat in two by twos" references...

but we are interpreting it in the family sense...the most wonderful aspect of
their songwriting is that the messages are universal :)

my two cents...
erin

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hi folks,

this was sent to me... seeing this is being discussed here at
the moment, if someone here could respond to this person that
would be great...

cheers,
sherlyn

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>date: sat, 13 mar 1999 13:25:48 est
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>
>hi--
>
>i just visited your indigo girls faq page and got your e-mail address.  i
>figured that you might be able to help me.  i'm writing a senior thesis paper
>on the indigo girls and i need information on their song "closer to fine"
i.e.
>symbolic lyrics, what inspired them to write it, background info, etc.  also,
>if you know anything about their seemingly simple and balanced life
>philosophies, i'd appreciate any information you could give.  thanks so
much!!
>
>--klv
>
>

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hello all

does anyone have the guitar chords for the song i don't want to talk about
it???  i would appreciate if someone could email them to me!!!!  thanks!!!
sandy

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     > you're probably aged 23 to 38 if...


     >
     > you learned to swim about the same time jaws came out and still
carry the
     >emotional scars to this day.
     >
     > you could sing "99 red balloons" in english and in german.
     >
     > you're starting to believe that maybe having the kids go to school
year-round
     >wouldn't be such a bad idea after all.
     >
     > you did the lefreak with chic.
     >
     > "all-skate, change directions" means something to you.
     >
     > in high school, you and all your friends discussed elaborate plans
to get
     >together again at the end of the century and play "1999" by prince
over and
     >over again.
     >
     > you wore anything izod, especially collar "up," or the
windbreakers that
     >folded up into a pouch you could wear around your waist.
     >
     > you owned a jordache anything, or you remember when jordache jeans
were
cool.
     >
     > you even dressed to emulate a person you saw in either a duran
duran,
     >madonna, rick springfield, or cyndi lauper video.
     >
     > you actually know who rick springfield is.
     >
     > you rode in the back of the station wagon and you faced the cars
behind you
     >in the "tail gunner" position.
     >
     > schoolhouse rock played a huge part in how you actually learned
the english
     >language.
     >
     > you ever wanted to be gagged with a spoon.
     >
     > you had a poster of bo, luke & daisy duke.
     >
     > there was nothing to question about bert n' ernie living together.

     >
     > knickers and leg warmers were cool.
     >
     > you ever wanted to learn to play "stairway to heaven" on the
guitar and
     >choreographed "dancing queen" by yourself in your room.
     >
     > you were afraid of the sleestaks on land of the lost.
     >
     > the first time you ever kissed someone was at a dance during
"crazy for you"
     >by madonna.
     >
     > you ever used the phrase "kiss mah grits" in conversation.
     >
     > you had ringside seats for luke and laura's wedding.
     >
     > you know who shot j.r.
     >
     > this rings a bell: "...and my name, is charlie. they work for me."

     >
     > you ever had a dorothy hammill haircut.
     >
     > you sat with your friends on a friday night and dialed "867-5309"
to see if
     >jenny would answer.
     >
     > you owned a pair of rainbow suspenders just like mork used to
wear.
     >
     > you remember when your cable tv box had the three rows of numbers
and you
had
     >to move the selector switch accordingly.
     >
     > two words: feathered hair
     >
     > your jaw would ache by the time you finished those "brick-sized"
packages of
     >bazooka gum.
     >
     > the phrase "where's the beef?" still doubles you over with
laughter.

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date:         sun, 14 mar 1999 20:14:03 +0100
reply-to:     "i am 32 flavors and then some..." <tisara@www.webworqs.com>
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my friend's gf told us that her dad bought us tickets to see dar williams
and the clan of cry cry cry when they come to town *wooo hooo* how nice is
that???  he's such a nice man.  i will give him my first born...maybe.

in addition i get to see suzanne westenhoefer (famous lesbian comedian)
when she performs at the gaamc party in nj *woooooo* i am quite the happy
grrl :)

had to share. :)

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date:         sun, 14 mar 1999 11:56:56 -0800
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hey y'all -

ok i have a question for yall out there...*grin*  regarding winamp.
ok i have winamp.  i have been an ig mp3 downloading queen - no
kidding - so here is my question...i have all these songs now...i can
listen to them using winamp - but is there a way to make a song list
or something so when one song is done it will just play another one
instead of playing the same song again and again?

any help would be greatly appreciated - feel free to respond
privately...thanks!

xo
sunny


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birthdays birthdays birthdays...i haven't forgotten you all.  it just
seems that when one shoe drops, payless decides i need a big old
thunderstorm of birkenstocks (or something).  so i apologize...i don't
remember if i did this since the beginning of march so i will do the past
two weeks now, and then the upcoming week tomorrow.  thankl you for being
so forgiving *grins*

march 1st through 7th****************************************************

march 1
mmacvey@attach.net (marylin macvey)

march 2 ('63)
tsuch002@maroon.tc.umn.edu (connie)

march 6
babyindigo@aol.com (jen)

march 8th through 14th

march 11 ('77)
jillian.certo@oberlin.edu (jill certo)

march 12 ('72)
underdog@earthlink.net (carolyn chow)
"got to learn to respect what you don't understand"


as always, if you want to be on the list, think you aren't (after all this
time?  shame on you! *heh*) or would like to make some changes to your
entry (like different e-mail address, or change/addition of a quote), feel
free to email me...some days i do have my act together :)

love, your ever-insane birthday goddess :)
--audra


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on the topic of what "the wood song" means... i am not sure but i am a
senior in high school now and my quotw in the yearbook is from it:
"what it takes to cross the great divide, is more than all the courage
i can muster up inside.  but if we get to find some answers and we
reach the other side, the prize is always worth the rocky ride"  i
figured it was appropriate considering i'll be graduating high school.
i've wanted to use this quote ever since i was introduced to the
girls.

just a random thought i had when i saw you letter :)

-di

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this was posted to the list last year, and *i* thought it was pretty
insightful... (is maureen still on the list??)

++++++++++++

i think that the wood song is all about dealing with changes and journeys or
"crossings" in life, particularly having to do with  relationships (two by
two, with our hearts the only tool that can be used on the journey).

if the relationship or journey goes smoothly, with few obstacles (the
weather holds), then we may seem to get to where we're going, but probably
miss the most important and satisfying aspect (the point), which is the
ability to overcome life's obstacles (storms) together, learn from the
experience, and strengthen and deepen the relationship as a result.

the thought of taking the chance to make changes or face fears or open
ourselves to a relationship (crossing the great divide) can seem like a huge
risk or even an impossible task (more than all the courage i can muster up
inside), but unless that chance is taken, you can never know what reward,
happiness and fulfillment (answers, prizes) can
possibly be had.

seeing into the future (skipping to the final chapter of the book) in an
attempt to avoid some of the obstacles and tough times on the road
ahead (steer us clear of some of the pain) is just a futile wish, because
that's just not how life works...not even the bystanders (just holding on
for the ride) are exempt from pain...but to get to "the point", we need to
set out on the journey, not just be bystanders.

maureen

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warning: the following is the ramblings of a senile mind...
aaaaagggghhhh!!!!!!!
my age ( a young 37 ) is showing... but hey... i *know* a+e are in the same
age bracket, and look how cool they are ( like this somehow makes *me* cool)
:-) so i step fearless into the light (oil of olay firmly in hand ) and
proclaim: i *can* sing 99 red balloons in english and german...err...okay,
okay; but i know the words:-) ( kim puts down the totally useless hand
basket she was hoping to carry tunes in).
i watched jaws as a teen ( okay... i saw *parts* of it ( or rather, the
victems...ewwww...) through my fingers.
i'd *love* for my kids to go to school year round now... except that i drive
school bus, and well after last weeks "mooning other drivers out the "rear"
window of the bus" incident, summer's starting to look real good to me.
i definatly lefreaked with chic (awwww, freak out!!! ) of course, i'm still
pretty much of a freak...
errrm, i hit the roller rink every friday night with my friends, who would
then help me back up + dust me off:-)... we rolled + fell to such wunnerful
tunes as tragedy, by the bee gees; it's a heart ache by bonnie tyler; knock
on wood; heart of glass... on + on the list goes... damn those are fine
memories... am certain i share a time line with amy due to her "all skate;
now reverse..." in tmf :-)
prince ( or the artist formally known as prince ) was in the future when i
was in high school, but damn, my friends and i, now that i'm the smart ass
formally known as "mrs", often talk about partying like it's 1999... and;
oh, geez, look at that; it *is* 1999... party time! ( after i finish this
silly post ).
i wore my collars up and fastened little jewelled brooches to the top button
between the two points of the upturned collars + then coupled this with the
essential matching bright forest green, or purple, sweater of that age rage.
anyone out there remember french cut jeans, tweed blazers, white tees + nike
runners??? billy joel started *that* look... definatly *not* "uptown":-)
i never dressed to emulate anyone in duran duran, but one of my cousins
definatly loved that femme glam look... come to think of it; he's never
really given it up:-)
i myself never *looked* like cyndi lauper, but, momma dear, i still  just
wanna have fun....( wanna have fun, yeah... <bouncy music bee bops through
my mind here... > )
me me me; pick me!!!! *i* know who rick springfield is!!!! *and* i still
have a few o' his 45's!!! :-)
i nebber rode gunner posistion in a station wagon, but sure tried to in that
lil' cubby hole thing in the back of my mom's lil' blue goose volkswagon bug:-)
school house rock???? i know not of what you speak ( conjunction junction,
what's your function? hooking up words.... la la la)...
gag me with a spoon? that expression was, like, so totally tubular +
gnarly.... but not till high school was, like, totally so yesterday...
ummmm... no poster of bo or luke, but *tonnes* of daisy duke... you'd think
my parents might've caught on:-)
bert + ernie living together? geez, what was to question? i always
*knew*.:-) that was back before tinkie winkie, the infamous indigo colored
tele-tubbie started hot tubbing with them though...
in my world, knickers + leg warmers were *never* cool... phew, i avoided
making a fool of myself in at least *one* area of my life:-)
stairway to heaven???? geez... i *still* wanna learn to play it on guitar...
funny thang... i made up a tape cassette to play on my bus, whilst driving
the 62 kids in my care betwixt home + school, and stairway to heaven comes
on right after shed your skin... both of which the kids *love* go figure
*their* tastes:-)
oh yup, too... i *did* choreograph dancing queen in my room, but i wasn't
alone.... my best friend + first love was there too ( a friendship
*alarmingly* simialar to that one in the movie out of new zealand about the
two friends who ended up murdering one of the girl's mothers... only, of
course, no parentaside ( that *i* know of) :-) took place during *our*
tragic + star crossed friendship,) and, hair brush microphones in hand, we
not only choreograped this song but several others. we also took great
delight in writing our own totally mental + outrageously funny ( in our
minds, anyways ) :-) lyrics to many many an abba tune.... a practice i seem
to have carried with me into my "adult" life. ( if you were on this list
during christmas time last year, you'll know what i'm talking about...
erm... many apologies to a+e for my terrible (tho totally non-malicious )
slaughter of some of their better songs:-)
erm... i used "kiss mah grits" in conversation; in fact, i stopped watching
alice when that there "flo" was no longer a part of the show. it just wasn't
the same without her:-(
i didn't give a rats sumpin or other about luke and laura's wedding, but
danged if i don't know who they are anyways... sigh... such a vast amount of
useless info has been aquired in this life time:-)
i know who shot jr, but i aint saying:-)
oh my gawd... i was a big charlies angels fan!!!! i wanted to be kate
jackson when i grew up... still do:-) never had a dorothy hamill haircut,
but several of my friends did... as well as the famed farrah fawcett cut (
which is where feathered hair came in... and let's not forget the "lady di"
cut)....
oh god, gasp... i cannot go on ( are you relieved? )... i'm so tired...
must take geretol...
peace out; kim
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nothing so gentle as real strength.
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