lifeblood: listlogs: 1999-04d


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date:         wed, 21 apr 1999 18:00:42 -0700
reply-to:     elena <elena@cruzio.com>
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subject:      easiest ig song to play?
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what, in your experience, are the easiest ig songs to play?

responding privately would be preferable for the list, i'm sure - thanks!


elena, beginner guitar student
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date:         wed, 21 apr 1999 21:07:14 edt
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hey folkies!

i've been bad y'all!  i got _smallternative_ in the mail a month ago, and i
just put it away after listening to how bad and out of tune my contributions
were.  i was embarrassed and ashamed.

well, i got sick of hearing crappie radio while driving and put the tape in
my truck.  it's almost pointless to say that shelley kicks my a$& when it
comes to thinking up great ideas and following through with them.

here's a review for side a.  i'll finish with side b later.

kathrin siegmund:  when i first joined this list, kathrin was the first one
to email me to offer bootlegs b/c i had none.  i know she must be feeling a
little secluded in germany right now....but, we love you
kathrin!!!....anyway, she has great writing skills and she is strong on
guitar, man!  while i was driving and listening to "still wondering," i was
personally affected by the words.

tim baldwin:  i can just imagine tim sitting and playing/singing in a quite
bedroom or a noisy bar...and still rocking me to peaceful feelings regardless
of environment.  it's a little peculiar how tim's song "wyoming skies"
induced a calm feeling in me, and it's such a prophetic song of hate!  i love
it, though.  the best songs rock me while waking me up.  he kind of reminds
me of greg brown.  (tim, do you get that much?)

carrie shafer:  i love her voice.  i was driving through the woods when "far
from fine" came on the first time.  she has such a great voice, and it's such
a personal song.  i'm loving this even more and more as i listen to it.  i
know it's easy to think of "closer to fine," but this song ("fff") is ...it's
just great.  "how did i get myself in this place...."  i ask myself that
whenever i get lost in the woods while working.  i also think of ctf, though
when momentarily lost in the woods...i change the words..."closer i am to
piiiiiiiine trees"  ha!  that actually happened to me once while on a
fire....and i still hear about from coworkers a year later!  anyhow, carrie,
i know from where you're speaking during this song....but, you know?  it's
not so bad to be out of place or far from fine or lost.

anna creech:  i love this!  spoken word.  i think all of these questions of
which anna asks here i have also asked while i was high.

heidi clark:  what the hell is the woman doing at the beginning?  counting,
"2, 3, 4..."  she sounds like she's getting reading to rock the house down,
then it turns out to be rather calm.  it's about growing up and realizing
destiny.  i really like the part where she's reflecting on the past, "sitting
on your front stoop"  or remembering fire and watching the way the flames and
sparks fly from a camp fire.  "kiss my neck and it reminds me of our first
embrace..."  i love that!  great song.  i still don't get the beginning,
though.

tara lane:  this song, "after today" is really just what i want to hear more
of lately.  it reminds me of dolores o'riordan (the cranberries).  tara is
obviously a talented musician and all...she has a cd of her own.  this is
from the band, in clover, of which tara is a part of 4.

kim baker:  when i first heard of kim, i thought she was an old friend of
mine from high school (same name and same attitude as kim baker in
murfreesboro, tn).  turns out she's not.  but, this song, "tattooed past"
reminds me of high school regardless. folks, we are in the midst of
professionals!!!!!!!  in the midst of greatness.  we are destined for
greatness, y'all!  kim, keep it up.  you're good.
the song, "encircled by angels" >> "i want you to stay..."  how many times
have i begged lovers to stay?  too many to count, man!

sarah e. moore:  "the finer side"  oh my gosh!  i love this.  i really love
this song!  sarah, i love this song!!!!!!!  "it's the finer side of life we
always count, not the simple experience; no, we always leave it out...."  i'm
in awe!

chee hill (me):  "resume" is such a better song now.  it was a struggle to
tame my guitar stroke or strum or whatever they call it.  it's a struggle to
tame any song on an acoustic guitar.

sarah rosenbloom:  it's called "november frail," and it's a great relief to
hear this for some reason.  this is a spoken word piece.  it ends with "your
lips were there..."  i love it.

shelley miller:  this is perhaps one of the best things on this
tape...(kissing up to the producer)....  seriously, though, this song,
"found" is good, y'all.  crazy, though, i think i hear a ceiling fan rotating
in the background.  this is for all of us born in the mid-70s.  shelley says,
"the sequel to 'lost' is 'found'."   shocked? no  impressed? no  inspired?
yes.  thanks shelley.

-chee

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date:         wed, 21 apr 1999 21:05:15 -0600
reply-to:     sstetler@jeffco.k12.co.us
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as a teacher of 3rd graders at an elementary school 2 miles from
columbine high, i dread going to school tomorrow knowing i am barely
able to hold myself together let alone my 28 children...may god give us
all strength to get through this.

shelley

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date:         wed, 21 apr 1999 23:43:57 -0500
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>hey folkies!
>here's a review for side a.  i'll finish with side b later.


thanks, chee.  now i want this even more than ever!!!!  how exciting to know
of all the talent of the people whose words i read here so often.  i want a
copy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

carol2

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date:         wed, 21 apr 1999 23:47:21 -0500
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>as a teacher of 3rd graders at an elementary school 2 miles from columbine
high, i dread going to school tomorrow knowing i am barely able to hold
myself together let alone my 28 children...may god give us all strength to
get through this.

shelley, god will give you strength.  i feel so very sad.  why do these
things have to happen???  how many lives have been affected???  my thoughts
and prayers are with all who are touched by this tragedy.

thinking of you, carol2
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date:         thu, 22 apr 1999 02:07:46 edt
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elena@cruzio.com writes:
<<  what, in your experience, are the easiest ig songs to play?>>

please respond to the list. as someone else who is just learning steel string
guitar ,
i am very curious to hear suggestions to this as well. anything please
*but* kumbaya :-)

thanks all,
katherine

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date:         thu, 22 apr 1999 02:29:55 -0400
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on thu, 22 apr 1999 kalisf@aol.com wrote:

>  i am very curious to hear suggestions to this as well. anything please
> *but* kumbaya :-)

   all you have to do with kumbaya is jazz it up a bit - work with
multiple effects chains, and let those tubes overheat while you do your
best axl rose impression:

   "someone's crryyyyyyyyyyin', lawd..."

   or you could play "land of canaan" - it's a simple g-c progression with
some ds thrown in for good measure, and gives your rhythm hand a good
workout if you're just starting out.

   darius

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date:         thu, 22 apr 1999 03:31:29 -0400
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subject:      re: smallternative: side a
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i would like to echo chee's comments on the performances........i never tire
of hearing this tape......

i first performed "wyoming skies" as the third song of a 3-song set
dedicated to the memory of matthew shepard, a week or so after the
funeral.......lance longwell's moving account of the proceedings provided
the impetus..........the other two songs in the set were covers of phil
ochs' "there but for fortune" and a specially rewritten version of "he was a
friend of mine".......i have never played to a quieter room before or
since.......

the vocal on "something to tell you" definitely shows a greg brown
influence.......the song just came out that way (no pun intended)......now
if i could only hold a note like carrie shafer......

peace,
tim

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date:         thu, 22 apr 1999 08:05:26 edt
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tim and others,

most certainly!  carrie's song is strong in voice!  later today i'll write
something about side b, which is better than side a....or maybe it just
depends on the time of day.  but consequently, i woke up this morning with
sarah m.'s song "the finer side" in my head.

just for a heads up, i'm going to atlanta for a week, and around may 10th, i
think i may get up the nerve to try an open mic somewhere there...you see,
here's my strategy: right after may 16th, i'm leaving for arizona for a year
and won't see anyone from atlanta for long, long time, and maybe i might even
go by another name b/c i know i'll screw something up when playing and sure
as hell don't want everybody to hear "chee" when i stink up the room.  maybe
it will be a good time to use my other name....fanny hill.  hum?

-chee

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date:         thu, 22 apr 1999 05:05:47 pdt
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hello..
    i just started learning the guitar with a begginer's class too,
which means i am in no way any good =).. but i thought i would respond
to this because i am in your position, and get antsie to play indigo
girls songs sooner than i probably can.
     i found that what worked really well for me, is to go  find an
indigo girl chord site, and print out some of the songs.  then as you
continue learning in class you can look at the songs at home.. and the
chords and such will become more familiar to you.  after doing this
myself, i just found that eventually with a little practice, there are
a lot of songs you can strum along to.  this is much easier than being
a beggining student and trying to decipher what is in their song
books.  for me that will come later!
     since i started doing this, i found that i could strum a long to
blood and fire, joking, i don't want to know, love of the common
people, closer to fine....these all have pretty easy chords so  maybe
try some of those, just look up chords and such for unfamiliar ones..
    if nothing else, and if your beggining teacher is real nice, just
bring in the music and stay a minute after class... she or he will be
able to show you exactly what fingering in a matter of seconds..
    okay i hope that helped...  from another beggining student
lori

>from: elena <elena@cruzio.com>
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>subject: easiest ig song to play?
>date: wed, 21 apr 1999 18:00:42 -0700
>
>what, in your experience, are the easiest ig songs to play?
>
>responding privately would be preferable for the list, i'm sure -
thanks!
>
>
>elena, beginner guitar student
>elena@cruzio.com
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date:         thu, 22 apr 1999 07:16:38 -0500
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>kim baker:  when i first heard of kim, i thought she was an old friend of
>mine from high school (same name and same attitude as kim baker in
>murfreesboro, tn).  turns out she's not.  but, this song, "tattooed past"
>reminds me of high school regardless. folks, we are in the midst of
>professionals!!!!!!!  in the midst of greatness.  we are destined for
>greatness, y'all!  kim, keep it up.  you're good.
>the song, "encircled by angels" >> "i want you to stay..."  how many times
>have i begged lovers to stay?  too many to count, man!

i was lucky enough to win a copy of kim's cd "on her dream".  this is great
stuff, indeed.  check out her website at <http://www.kimbaker.com>  and buy
the cd.
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as i replied to elena privately:

try these:

you left it up to me
nashville
welcome me
ballad of squeaky fromme
moment of forgiveness

in general, amy's songs are at least possible for the beginner.  try as i
might, i haven't found an emily song i could handle.
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date:         thu, 22 apr 1999 11:08:39 -0400
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hi folks.......

i found this message on the folk_music mailing list last night and asked the
author for permission to re-post it.......i believe he makes an extremely
valid point.......

peace,
tim

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from: quincy welch <lomax1@iamerica.net>
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date: thursday, april 22, 1999 2:45 am
subject: re: the guns


>janice sauve wrote:
>> is there something  we could do about this.... as a group could we join
>> efforts with an established internet presence that's raising
consciousness
>> or  maybe work to developing our own page or something and then each find
>> ways of bringing the collective effort into our own communities...
>
>it is important for us to know that a guest on the oprah show today,
>a dr. pollantti (maybe mispelled) the author of a book on "real boys"
>has made a study over the past three years and has some documented
>evidence that young boys are finding themselves misunderstood and
>shown little love or understanding....their main intersts are in things
>that have been "preached" as macho stuff....the marlboro man just sat
>on a horse and watched over the herd....the more modern hero to boys
>of all ages are more steeped in the violent nature of claude van damm,
>chuck norris, and many, many others.  we are teaching kids from an
>early age to play football, soccer and other sports with a total dedi-
>cation to the finite end....win at all costs!  i went from a local
>school system back in the thirtys and spent four years in a military
>school....it helped me, but today a lot of the schools are being run
>in a more violent depiction of the "new man of steel" or some other
>bulloney!   we have a powerful need to take back our sons, they are the
>ones that seem to be getting further away from the family circle, the
>girls are still connected, but the boys have lost their family identity
>as a part of the homelife scenery.
>
>take care of the bonds with your sons, and your sons will not grow up
>to be trench coat mafia or any other form of the new boy on the street.
>the tough one, the one with the tattoos and the brash outlook on life
>and the family scene.
>
>perhaps it is time to understand boys like i was understood, i have
>engaged in three different wars, but at 75, those violent years still
>have not eroded my love for my grandson, or my new great grandson.  it
>is not just a case of being a good father, providing for food, clothes
>and entertainment is not enough....we need to take our sons, grandsons
>and whatever and lead them with strength and gentility back into the
>life that they really long for down deep!
>quincy benn welch
>"grey wolf" a member of the powhatan indian nation and a proud veteran
>and father, grandfather and great grandfather.

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go for the open mic, chee.  i'm jealous.  i'm a talented singer but i can't
play a non-wind instrument worth s**t.  good luck.
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this has no igc, but for those of you who are in or near ny, you may want to
check it out.  i'm too far...  :(

love,
alissa

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hkf's,
i have this research paper for my final in english.  i am doing it on =
hermaphrodites.  a topic taken from the book "the left hand of =
darkeness".  i have to interview someone for one of my sources.  i =
really don't have time to search around campus for professors to =
interview so i was wondering if any of you could help me out.  are there =
any people out there who work in the field of psychology or sociology =
who wouldn't mind answering a few questions about hermaphrodites.  the =
topic i am doing is how to know whether to be a boy or girl and should =
the child have say in this or should the parents make the decision or =
should the doctors make the decision.  i would really appreciate any =
help i can get.  please email me privately.
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date:         thu, 22 apr 1999 11:53:02 -0600
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from a sociology list i am on:

>>the relatively widespread existance in recent years of nazi, skin-head,
>>and related phenomena amongst u.s. teenagers poses the question: why is
>>there at this time no vibrant, progressive, cooperativist teen culture
>>which could provide the social solidarity, meaning, and identity
>>currently provided by right-wing, 'death-trip' movements?  what would it
>>take to constitute such a movement?

and from daemon:

>daemon has worked hard on just these issues with our release of jesus
>christ superstar.  we gave thousands away last year to gun violence
>organizations, including p.a.v.e,  a group in jonesboro, ar that was
>organized after the senseless shootings at westside middle school.
>we're committed to support programs which specifically target youth,
>including conflict resolution and alternatives to violent behavior.

obviously, groups like the ig and organizations such as daemon are working
for positive social change.  but i do wonder how we could all work
together to try to make it into a full-fledged movement?  are peace, love
and understanding simply cliches that no one will embrace anymore?  is our
society too wounded to reverse our course?

just some rhetorical questions from colorado,

garian

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my first ig song was "nashville" (a, e, d i think, then e, d for the middle parts).  "three hits" is also very satisfying, especially because the intro riff is relatively slow and easy.  you can email me if you don't have internet access to the chords and i'll send 'em to you.

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i went to a lecture last night given by eco-feminist philospher karen
warren who made some important points as to the school killing. she too
mentioned the book, "real boys" and said that what is surprising is not
that the killings happend, but that they do not happen more oten. that as a
result of being raised in a patriarachial society, boys are suffering. she
also mentioned clinton's (in her mind) hypocritical statment that "we must
teach our youth that killing is wrong" --as we bomb the hell out of
everything.she also pointed out, and i think this is very important, that
news casters etc, when talking about the boys and/or enemies in general,
tend to animalize them. in a culture such as ours in which that which is
associated with nature is devalued (why mother nature and not father
nature....why is land raped or barren, why are women and not men referred
to as cows, chicks, foxes), this animalization allows us to dissociate
ourselves from, in this case, the boys who killed. this in turn allows them
to be viewed as an exception to the rule, an anomally which means we don't
have to deal with the dysfunctional system in which the boys are
opperating. not that the boys are victims, they are definatly culpable, but
their behavior is a reaction to a situation, a reaction which any one of us
might have had.
okay, sorry for the nigc.

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i'm sorry i have to do this but when i read articles that summarize sociology to
two or three culprits i get upset. it reminds me of talk show psychologists who
can determine in a twenty minute span why you hate your mother/do drugs/ eat too
much etc. i think calling a female a chick, although i know i've heard males
and/or their genetalia being referred to as cocks, does not create any
subconscious or even conscious misogyny.  what it comes down to is cohesive
thinking. if these killings in colorado were in fact due to the "goth" people
against the "jocks" as the media is portraying, it makes me believe that these
people are just working off of the superficial boundaries that they themselves
are trying to degrade. paradoxical logic? of course, rationality was not the
focal point of the situation.
i think one of the reasons that "boys" may be suffering, although there is a
plethora of excuses, is not it is a patriarchal society, but a society trying to
move from that status to something equal for the sexes. although, most of
society may want to do that, it isn't sure how. today is  "take our daughters to
work day".  a good idea that is being slowly changed to "take our children to
work" so as not to leave out anyone because of gender.
in my opinion, american society places too much emphasis on the superficial (yes
i do believe gender is superficial) and not enough on the individual's mind.
i'm sure i'll get flames aplenty, but that's the price i'll pay to speak my
mind.

sarah wrote:

i went to a lecture last night given by eco-feminist philospher karen
warren who made some important points as to the school killing. she too
mentioned the book, "real boys" and said that what is surprising is not
that the killings happend, but that they do not happen more oten. that as a
result of being raised in a patriarachial society, boys are suffering. she
also mentioned clinton's (in her mind) hypocritical statment that "we must
teach our youth that killing is wrong" --as we bomb the hell out of
everything.she also pointed out, and i think this is very important, that
news casters etc, when talking about the boys and/or enemies in general,
tend to animalize them. in a culture such as ours in which that which is
associated with nature is devalued (why mother nature and not father
nature....why is land raped or barren, why are women and not men referred
to as cows, chicks, foxes), this animalization allows us to dissociate
ourselves from, in this case, the boys who killed. this in turn allows them
to be viewed as an exception to the rule, an anomally which means we don't
have to deal with the dysfunctional system in which the boys are
opperating. not that the boys are victims, they are definatly culpable, but
their behavior is a reaction to a situation, a reaction which any one of us
might have had.

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on thu, 22 apr 1999, sarah t. rosenblum wrote:

> that as a result of being raised in a patriarachial society, boys are
> suffering. she also mentioned clinton's (in her mind) hypocritical
> statment that "we must teach our youth that killing is wrong" --as we
> bomb the hell out of everything.

   well, we can demonize the kids who did it, or we could demonize society
for demonizing the kids, or we could demonize leo dicaprio, who was in a
movie that was about a kid who was demonized by society, which was seen
by the kids who we are now demonizing, which reflects on the demonic
society.
   i'm afraid that blaming "society" as a whole is just an easy way out,
too.  it's so much easier to come up with an abstract construct than face
the fact that maybe these guys were just two kids who, through whatever
mishap, were screwed in the head.
   i've listened to marilyn manson, played my share of "the evil
role-playing game dungeons & dragons" (thank you, nightline...), and
surfed the internet.  i was given a *gasp* real gun at the age of 10,
learned to shoot it, and have even used it to *gasp* shoot at animals!
blasting away at the neighbor's collie, loyal dog of a kindergarten
teacher, no less, because she was in the process of eating my
still-living fowl feathered friends - and have no remorse!!
   there are millions of high school kids who feel like "outcasts".  most
of them don't do anything like blowing up their school.  i think folks
should stop crying, "society!  sex!  drugs!  internet!  rock and/or
roll!" and start focusing on looking for real factors, instead of making
themselves feel good about how well they turned out.
   unfortunately, harris and klebold are dead.  but there are others who
weren't quite hell-bent on self-destruction, just peer-destruction.  where
are the hordes of psych-grad-students probing their minds?  since they're
all in jail, surely they have nothing better to do than be guinea pigs!

   <sarcasm off>

   in all seriousness, my heart goes out to all of you who were affected
by the shooting.  having little siblings myself, this whole affair is
chilling.

   darius

"a psycho kills for no reason - i kill for money...that didn't sound
right."
   -- john cusack, "grosse pointe blank"

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hkf's,
i was told that hermaphrodite is not exactly the word that people would =
like to hear.  in other words transgendered is more appropriate.  i'm =
sorry if i offended anyone but to be honest that term did not come from =
my mouth.  in the book that we had to choose a topic from it is clearly =
stated that everyone on that planet is a hermaphrodite and once a year =
they choose whether to be a male or female and they all have sex.  so =
again, i am sorry.  you may yell at the book, but please don't yell at =
me. =20
take care,
heather

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<div><font size=3d2>i was told that hermaphrodite is not exactly the =
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appropriate.  i'm sorry if i offended anyone but to be honest that =
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from it=20
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actually, guys, hermaphrodite and transgender are not the same thing.  =
transgender is someone who has the operation and switches from one to =
the other.  a hermaphrodite (this comes from greek mythology) is a =
person who has the sexual organs of both genders *at the same time*.

hope that helped all of you!! :)

~~little tiglet
wordsmith and taleweaver
gargling at the fountain of knowledge
*********
"it's hard to be brave," said piglet,
"when you're only a very small animal."
*********
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actually, no.  "transgender" is a blanket political identity label which
includes transvestites, pre- and post-op transsexuals, as well as those
who are born intersexed (used to be called hermaphrodite).  if you want to
speak specifically about any one of these groups, transgendered is not the
term to use though.
g.

p.s. an interesting book on the topic is _changing sex_ by bernice
hausman.

on thu, 22 apr 1999, tiglet wrote:

> actually, guys, hermaphrodite and transgender are not the same thing.  transgender is someone who has the operation and switches from one to the other.  a hermaphrodite (this comes from greek mythology) is a person who has the sexual organs of both genders *at the same time*.
>

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subject:      nigc: superficial labels

at 3:06 pm 4/22/99 josh.mortenson@stpaul.com wrote:

".....in my opinion, american society places too much emphasis on the
superficial (yes
i do believe gender is superficial) and not enough on the individual's mind.
i'm sure i'll get flames aplenty, but that's the price i'll pay to speak my
mind."

i have never posted anything to this list and really never planned to, but on
this subject i must speak my mind.  josh will be happy to know that i agree with
wholeheartedly.  society needs everyone to be in one, and only one, of it's nice
neat little categories.  if you don't fit into any of the categories they
currently have, or even worse happen to fit into more then one, you're screwed.
we need to start focusing on the fact that the only valid category is that of
human being.  gender is as superficial as any other trait you may want to use to
categorize someone.  the media is only exacerbating the problem by playing up
this goths vs. jocks angle, which is ridiculous.  if we didn't have the labels
in the first place, then maybe they wouldn't have felt as though they didn't
belong to one.  i am not making excuses for anyone, that is for sure.  i firmly
believe we are all responsible for our own choices, no matter what ills you have
to bear in your life.  gay bashing should not be an illegal act because the
person being beat is gay....it is an illegal act because assault on any person
is a crime.  no one should fear physical harm because of who they are.  women
should not get hired at a workplace because they are women.  they should be
hired because they can do the job.  this is the exact thing we wanted men to
stop.  men shouldn't get the job simply because they are men, how can we expect
employers to do this for women?  black students should not be awarded
scholarships because they are black.  they should be awarded scholarships
because they are in financial need.  everyone should be given an opportunity to
be educated.  i could go one and on.  when we label people, we are pressuring
them to conform.  i personally don't want any one to assume, pressure, predict
or suggest how i should live my life because i happen to be a women, or young,
or a mother, or a wife, or a blond, or whatever other aspect of my life you
would like to use.  it is ridiculous to try and file my whole life away because
of these few superficial traits i happened have.  we all deserve as much
opportunity and respect as the next person because of the simple fact that we
date: thu, 29 apr 1999 13:01:02 +0000
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are all human beings.

those boys didn't do what they did simply because they were labeled as "goth",
it's not that easy.  there are probably a million things that led up to this
explosion of hatred.  what gets me is that not one person took the time to look
past the superficial.  not one person saw that these boys were hurting so much
inside.  if they were alive today, i personally would not be able to forgive
them for what they did.  they were certainly old enough to understand right from
wrong.  but, as a person who has felt the pain of being the outcast,
misunderstood, and alone for most of my life, i am not surprised that something
like this has happened again.  society taught them the lesson that drove them to
it.  why should they have respected the rights of others, when we didn't respect
their right to be who they were.

before you flame me, i just want you to know, that if it were you being
persecuted simply for who you are, (is there anyone who hasn't been??), i would
be right there with you, demanding the respect each and every one of you
deserves.  not because you are a fellow listee or happen to be a women, but
because you are human.

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in a message dated 4/22/99 1:22:50 pm, garian wrote:

<<are peace, love and understanding simply cliches that no one will embrace
anymore?  is our society too wounded to reverse our course? >>

it seems to me that parents are the ones who need to get more involved.  we
all are fighting for the cause, but when a kid goes home to an empty house &
is otherwise ignored by parents, that's when they turn to this crap.  don't
get me wrong, there are many two-income & single parent families that can
still manage to maintain good relationships with their kids... it's called
quality time.

did anyone notice that one of those teenaged gunmen drove a bmw?  that's not
a financially struggling family... that's a family that puts the almighty
dollar above their child's positive emotional growth.  those are pretty
screwed up priorities if ya ask me... and it's occurring far too often.  i'm
sure those parents are saying, "we didn't know there was a problem... how
could we have missed it?"  too busy, i guess. :(

dee (who now returns you to our regularly scheduled list stuff)

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ok, my mistake again.  in the last few hours i have been doing research =
and transgendered is not the term i was looking for.  it is intersexual, =
as some of you have pointed out......and thank you for that.  it helps =
in my research.  so, sorry again.  i didn't mean to cause such a stir. =20
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actually, hermaphrodite refers to having both male and female sexual
organs.  transgendered usually is used to refer to people undergoing
surgery to become a gender other than the one they were born.  there's a
huge difference, and pc vocabulary usage doesn't apply when terms are
being used correctly.

> heather rosenberg wrote:
>
> hkf's,
> i was told that hermaphrodite is not exactly the word that people
> would like to hear.  in other words transgendered is more
> appropriate.

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     i also have never posted to the list before. my family was a very
close knit family. my dad worked, my mom stayed at home. my sister and
i complained sometimes about family dinners at 6pm every night, but we
knew that it was family time. my sister and i talked openly about
everything, to ourselves and to our parents. one day i came home to
find my sister locked in the bathroom. the door was locked, and she
didn't answer when i called for her. she had slit her wrists and was
lying in the bathtub, and she died. my point here is that even with
family support and love, and no signs that she was upset with anything,
my sister took her life. so i don't think that it's the parents fault
if they don't see signs that their child is upset. it's not that they
were too busy, or didn't care or love her enough. it's just that
sometimes there aren't any signs. and as much as we thought we knew
everything about my sister, she still kept things hidden. so think
about this next time you decide that the parents are to blame for not
'knowing' their children.

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> >  i am very curious to hear suggestions to this as well. anything please
>  > *but* kumbaya :-)
>
>     all you have to do with kumbaya is jazz it up a bit -

yes, exactly...besides, emily and amy jazzed that song up at the boathouse
show in '97! =)  "it's hot as hell, lord..."

- pony

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hey sorry for the nigc but i am tryin to start a glbt or gay-straight
alliance club thing at my high school and i was wondering if anyone has had
any experience starting one at their high school, or has been an advisor for
one.  i think i need to find a purpose for the group that the school
administrators will listen to, so if anyone has any ideas, can you email me
please? thanks a lot =)


                                                        ---lindy =)

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chee hill wrote:

> anna creech:  i love this!  spoken word.  i think all of these questions of
> which anna asks here i have also asked while i was high.

i just want to clarify that i was not high when i wrote the poem...however, i do
appreciate the sentiment.

:)
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i have no idea what the easiest ig song to play it is i never tried playing
any, because i had no cords for them. i am still here just in the
background. i had bridge work done today and my mouth is very sore so
everyone i owe orders to i will look at what i found in the next few days.
missy
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>my first ig song was "nashville" (a, e, d i think, then e, d for the middle
parts).  "three hits" is also very satisfying, especially because the intro
riff is relatively slow and easy.  you can email me if you don't have
internet access to the chords and i'll send 'em to you.
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hkf,s
i was wondering if anyone was going to the concert at the variety playhouse
here in atlanta since someone mentioned that the indigo girls are going to
be the special guests.  well, i am definitley going but unfortunately it
seems i am going solo.  so if there is someone out there who is going and is
in the same boat i could use some company.  please email me privately.
heather

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hey all -

all this talk of this smallternative tape is making me
very jealous.  i would really like to hear fellow list
members doing their thing.  i, unfortunatly have
nothing to trade, so i would have to send a sase and a
blank tape.  if anyone is interested in helping me get
this that would be great.  i am sure the list would
appreciate private email.  thanks alot!

-di


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hello all,

        i'm wondering about this too! (and getting more jealous with every post
i read!) i really missed the bus on this one!
        anyone out there got this burned into a cd?  and if not...anyone out
there willing to make a deal or a trade on a tape?
        please contact privately!! :)

        thanks much!
        jules

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i was a bit scared when i saw a ub40 commercial and i saw "blood and
fire" listed as a track.....
i knew it was a cover cd...so i was a bit worried cuz i didn't think
it was something they would cover, though it *would* be interesting.
well, i did some research, and apparently there was a reggae guy named
niney who wrote a song w/ the same title.....
whoo hoo!  done with school!
hey, anyone going to the school of the americas protest on may 1-4?
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hey all!

i have a good friend who has picked up the guitar again after a long time of
having it in the closet.  she is looking for cords to songs by ig, sarah, and
others.  she says she need cords, not the tabs.

if you have any help or website info, please email it my way.  she is also
looking for kinda easy stuff i think to start.

thanks for the help in advance!

babs

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<a href="http://www.musictab.com/">music tabs</a>
<a href="http://www.guitarnotes.com/">guitar notes - links, lessons, licks,
and more!
</a>

<a
href="http://www.medialab.chalmers.se/guitar/acoustic.guitar.song.collection.h
tml">acoustic guitar song collection
</a>
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/8535/">dave's awesome
guitar page
</a>
<a href="http://www.poso.com/guitar.htm">introduction to guitar</a>
<a href="http://www.rockline.com/wwwboard/messages/139.htm">i need some
guitar cords
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<a
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got this from the message board on ig epic site.  check your local
listings.

get your vcr's set up. vh1 is replaying the "before they were stars"
episode that shows ig way back when. it airs at 12:30 pm est, friday,
april 23. they're only in it for a few minutes but it might be a good
temporary fix while we wait for them to start touring again this
summer.

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              april 25th: rally to support hate crime prevention act ,
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hey everyone!

been busy here in dc doing the activist thing, and thought maybe you guys
would like to come out and rally and march too!

peace, love and ig-

karrie

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>from the national organization for women action center:

stop the violence!

stop the hate!

calling all activists:


                          rally to support the
                         hate crime prevention
                                 act of 1999

date:      april 25, 1999

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this is just one more reminder that michelle and wendy bucklew are  going to
be at goucher college in baltimore on sunday april 25 at 7 pm in
heubeck...this has been a paid commercial announcement...not really.

sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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hi, everyone.  today when i was driving to school i turned on the
radio and lo and behold, there was emily's voice, and then amy's.  (at
which point i let out a squeal and got a weird look from the guy in
the car next to me.)  anyway, it was a song i had never heard before
and it was just ending so i didn't get to hear that much of it.  i
think it was called something like "it won't take too long."  it may
have been called something completely different....my brain's
completely shot this time of year.  they said it was on some sort of a
compilation.  i feel extremely ignorant for not knowing this, but if
anyone has any idea of what i'm talking about, please let me know.

oh yeah, i have another question.  does anyone know the url for that
site where you type in a person's name or a band and it shows you
everything they've appeared in?  for instance, if i typed in indigo
girls, it would give me boys on the side soundtrack, put on your green
shoes, new mongrels, etc.

liz <---lurker exraordinaire


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dare you."  sark

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date:         fri, 23 apr 1999 10:30:17 -0500
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the song would be "it won't take long" written by ferron.  you can find it
on the compilation "spirit of '73".  you can buy in from cd now.
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speaking of ferron, does anyone know how i can get ahold of a cd of hers??
i've tried cdnow and musicboulevard to no avail...

thanks!

shannon

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the song is "it won't take long" and it appears on the "spirit of 73"
compilation that is available at www.cdnow.com

you can also find all of the compilations that they have appeared on at the
same site--those that are available that is

on fri, 23 apr 1999, doolittle all day wrote:

> . . .anyway, it was a song i had never heard before
> and it was just ending so i didn't get to hear that much of it.  i
> think it was called something like "it won't take too long."  it may
> anyone has any idea of what i'm talking about, please let me know.
>
> oh yeah, i have another question.  does anyone know the url for that
> site where you type in a person's name or a band and it shows you
> everything they've appeared in?  for instance, if i typed in indigo
> girls, it would give me boys on the side soundtrack, put on your green
> shoes, new mongrels, etc.
>
> liz <---lurker exraordinaire
>
>
> i love to hear people say, "you can't do that." it's like hearing, "i
> dare you."  sark
>
>
>
>
>
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hey y'all, just thought some of you might be interested in this.  it's a
documentary showing here in seattle (pay attention you nw listees!!!!) at the
egyptian theater until next thursday.  the article below is reprinted,
without permission from the stranger (a local alternative free newspaper).
apologies for the bandwidth...

zapatistas!
covering conflict by andy spletzer

        every documentary worth its salt, no matter how balanced, has a point
of view, an angle, a bias.  life is too complex to have it any other way.
every edit is an editorial decision.  this documentary takes the side of the
zapatistas, the native mayans in the southern mexican state of chiapas who
rose up against their government on january 1, 1994--the day the north
american free trade agreement (nafta) went into effect.  the zapatistas took
over five towns and 500 ranches, nearly one quarter of chiapas.  the
government reacted, fighting flared up, people died, and since then an uneasy
cease-fire has been in effect.
        as in so many battles--the crisis in kosovo being the most recent
example--the reason for the conflict has become secondary to the conflict
itself.  peace talks happen, then break down.  meanwhile, an anti-zapatista
paramilitary group calling itself "peace and justice" has moved in, striking
fear in pro-zapatista citizens despite their claims that they aren't violent.
but then, those zapatistas aren't always angels either...
        director nettie wild is a canadian, and one reason the documentary
works so well is that she acknowledges she's an outsider trying to learn more
about the conflict.  the zapatistas--particularly the masked, pipe-smoking
subcomandante marcos--are great at public relations:  they draw international
attention to their cause knowing full well how positive public opinion can
help.  meanwhile, when the peace and justice people try similar tactics, they
come off as just plain creepy.  a place called chiapas is an excellent
documentary, shedding light upon the complex and continuing struggle in a
small state in southern mexico.

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on thu, 22 apr 1999, sheryl jones wrote:

> in general, amy's songs are at least possible for the beginner.  try as i
> might, i haven't found an emily song i could handle.

        i'll definitely second that.  if you have a capo, "world falls"
isn't very hard either.  chord-wise, "shame on you" is pretty simple--just
three open-position chords, a, d, and e.  it's just getting the strumming
rhythm down that's a bit tricky.
        out of emily's songs, the only ones i've been able to (partly)
tackle so far are "closer to fine," "hammer and a nail," and "galileo."
"galileo" is still kicking my butt, though, "hammer" takes quite a bit of
stamina, and hitting the right strings on "closer to fine" takes work.
        also, i'm still trying to get together the information for that ig
beginning guitarist's archive, so i'd really love it if people with input
could email me privately at indigrrl@mail.gn1.net or
rhiannon@silverflame.simplenet.com.

        battle on,
        shanie
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it might one day come to this.  it has.  i'm not afraid."
* "you've always said that i was the brave one.  look at you now.  if this
is to be our destiny, let's see it out together."
        -- gabrielle and xena, in "one against an army"

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date:         fri, 23 apr 1999 12:39:08 -0600
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hey kf's,

my really awesome friend gave me an autographed rop cd case. now, my
question is, it's not the usual rop case. it's one of those cardboard
jobbies and it's got different pictures. unfortunately, it doesn't have
the cd cuz she lost it somewhere, but that's okay. amyray, does anyone
know when this demo cd came out or anything about it? i'd describe it
better, but i don't have it on me. i'm just curious.

thanx,
amy m.

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>from www.indigogirls.com

woohoo!  babs

touring:
lilith fair festival dates are confirmed for atlanta on july 24th as well as
august 19-31. the august run includes chicago, toronto, milwaukee,
minneapolis, and denver, wrapping up in edmonton on august 31. also, we are
confirming the newport folk festival on august 8th.

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subject:      re: omg!  ig tour dates!  woohoo!
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woohoo!  babs
>>>>>>

for giving myself and countless others a late afternoon heart-attack
concerning old news... (anyone just surfing like crazy just now?)  i hereby
vote to give babs one strike!  afterall, the list was created for the people
by the people, and so we are the true owners of the list...  or is this not
a democracy?! - wait a minute, when did that change...  [excerpt] "the babs'
drawn & quartering will be at the market square at 4:20pm today..."

anyway, back to the regularly schedule program, and i'll try not to do any
shouting next time...  (it's just fun sometimes...)
8-)
mkc
a+e=ig

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and a lifetime of fears."-amy ray

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<<woohoo!  babs>>

<< i hereby vote to give babs one strike!  afterall, the list was created for
the people by the people, and so we are the true owners of the list...  or is
this not
a democracy?! - wait a minute, when did that change...  [excerpt] "the babs'
drawn & quartering will be at the market square at 4:20pm today...">>

*** omg!  how mean! :-)  i had not seen the lilith info yet so i posted it.
please don't hate me because i am slow.  i have had a crappie crap week, and
this was the one bright spot.  so sorry for reposting old news!

sheesh, babs

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anyone heard the new release (called inside out i guess)?
any good?
shannon

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go to

http://www.ladyslipper.org

jude :)

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hey!

i was looking at songs on lifeblood today and saw this really amazing song by
amy.  it seems she may have written it for emily.  if anyone has heard it or
has a copy of it, let me know.

babs

"but emily i gotta tell you i understand i understand
when your love flies away well honesty
that's about the best you can the best you can do
but aren't you empty inside
aren't you

falling star"

words and music amy ray

http://www.lifeblood.net/lyrics/athruz/fallings.html

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falling star is on the early recordings, vol. 1 that you can download from the
mp3 site.

on fri, 23 apr 1999, barbara todd wrote:
>
> i was looking at songs on lifeblood today and saw this really amazing song by
> amy.  it seems she may have written it for emily.  if anyone has heard it or
> has a copy of it, let me know.

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sent: thursday, april 22, 1999 11:53 am
subject: lights
subject:     not a chain letter - please read

i received this from a
good friend....please pass it on!
(not a chain letter! just a good idea)

i thought you all might like to read this over.  i took away all the
forward marks so it would be easier to read.  sounds like a good idea -
every little bit helps...

steph


turn on your lights for america

as i was driving to work this morning i passed by
an elementary school and noticed that the flag had
been lowered to half-mast in memory of the students
and their families in littleton, colorado. what a
wonderful gesture that simple act is. but, i thought to
myself, what can i do to show others that i too am
deeply affected by this tragedy.
turn on a light. turn on my headlights. turn on my porch light. but how
do i get this message to others? use the internet. i'm sending this
message to everyone on my email list and am asking that you do the
same.
i am going to turn on my headlights on friday morning on on my way to
work,on saturday as i run my errands and especially on sunday as i go
to my place of worship. i'm also going to turn on my porch lights on
friday, saturday and sunday night.
i'm going to turn on my lights for the families in
littleton to show them that i care about them, that i
feel the pain and hurt and heartache.  i'm going to
turn on my lights for what is right about this country.
i'm going to turn on my lights against the darkness, the anger and the
prejudice.
i hope you will join me. one light is not much but put them together
and we can light up the world.
  turn on your lights - show that you stand for what is
right about america.  and as you turn on your headlights and porch
lights this weekend; turn on the light in your heart and soul.
show the world that this is not what america is all
about. with your light shining bright, along with others, we can come
together (if only for a brief
moment) and combat the evil that confronts us all

please pass this email on to everyone on your address
list. lets see if we can get this message to everyone across this great
country before friday morning and lets use the internet for what it was
intended- good.


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> yet to go where someone
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hey y'all...

a long time ago i volunteered to do this, because i thought it would =
take shape much sooner than it has.  at the moment, i'm preparing for my =
written and oral exams for graduate school, and i have over 200 books to =
read over the next 2 months.  i wonder if some kind friend out there =
would mind taking over the "great lakes region" duties.  i have a more =
complete letter, but i thought rather than bother the list, i'd fwd it =
to the kind soul who agreed to bail me out...  someone... please!  i'd =
even toss in a free bootleg!
please?
chris ii


if you remember, about a month ago you each individually emailed me =
expressing some interest in being a regional coordinator for the hte2000 =
fundraiser.  in the interest of keeping things a little more under =
control, we'vve divided the us into five regions:

northwest: washigton, oregon, idaho, wyoming & alaska
southwest: california, nevada, utah, colorado, arizona, new mexico & =
texas
great plains: north dakota, south dakota, nebraska, kansas, minnesota, =
iowa, missouri & oklahoma
great lakes: wisonsin, illinois, michigan, indiana & ohio
northeast: maine, new york, vermont, new hampshire, massachusetts, =
conneticut, new jersey, maryland, virginia, west virginia, pennsylvania =
& maryland
southeast: arkansas, louisiana, mississippi, alabama, tennessee, =
kentucky, north carolina, south carolina, georgia & texas.

if you can all email me once more with your specific states or regions i =
can assign from there.  your duties will be to keep taps on donations =
(i'll email you with statistics), post encouragements to your regions & =
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hey folks!

anyone who's interested...
ellen degeneres & her mother are on larry king live right now!
(eastern standard time... )
just a little fyi!

twink!

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(i'm not crawling out of my hole.  no nono not yet.)

cat power is atlantan chan marshall and her guitar-- very simple,
stark, beautiful music that vacillates from automatic-for-the-people
mellow to amy-ray-is-a-punk-rocker wild.  i think you'll like.  the
shows'll be cheap, so why not go, give her a try.  added bonus:  chan
is cute as all get-out.  (my apologies if this is the umpteenth time
you've heard this shpiel.  but she really is cute. ;))

kisses from the cornfield,
jill

p.s.-- stay tuned for the announcement of the upcoming, very special,
oh-so-intimate, ultra-slinkster-cool, guaranteed to be wackywonderful,
me-planned, me-executed rose polenzani oberlin (that's ohio) show...
keep apr. 30 free, folks (that's next friday) ooooeeoooo.
whoa superfluous capitalization usage.  how else say i?

and now for the power that is cat.

from the matador records email update (to subscribe, email
matalist-admin@matador.recs.com with "subscribe" in the subject of the
message).
>cat power
>
>4/29 - chattanooga tn - lamar's
>4/30 - nashvilile tn - end
>5/8 - tucson az - club congress
>5/9 - santa monica - mccabe's guitar shop
>5/11 - san francisco - bottom of da hill
>performing to film "passion of joan of arc" (2 shows)
>5/12 - portland or - berbati's pan, with film
>5/13 - seattle - crocodile, with film (2 shows)
>5/14 - bellingham wa  - wwu campus, viking union
>5/16 - chicago - lounge ax, with film (2 shows)
>5/17 - toronto ont - horseshoe, with film
>5/19 - new york - knitting factory (2 shows)


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i still love the trombone.  i was listening to old chicago and ya know?  i
love the trombone.  what if amy or emily learned how to play the trombone?
or what if they just had that in a song of theirs...i'd freak.  i think i've
said that before though.

dorkie? yes.  but, it's important to know that i'm a bonafide dork.
-chee

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>x-from_: whsseely@aol.com  mon apr 19 12:16:29 1999
>return-path: <whsseely@aol.com>
>from: whsseely@aol.com
>date: mon, 19 apr 1999 14:56:30 edt
>subject: mathew sheppard petition
>reply-to: whsseely@aol.com
>to: undisclosed-recipients:;
>
>if you would be so kind as to support this cause and sign this petition,
>
>please pass it on to others.
> if not, please do not kill it. simply send it to allrunique@aol.com
>so we can keep this cause alive and pass it on to others.  thank
>you.
>
>
>on october 6, outside laramie, wyoming, matthew shepard,
>a first year university of wyoming student, was tortured, beaten, and
>left tied
>to a pole in the freezing cold. six days later, he died of his wounds in
>
>>> >>>>> poudre valley hospital, fort collins, colorado. matthew was
>murdered because he
>was gay and because he was a prominent and charismatic member of the gay
>and lesbian student
>group on campus. right now wyoming and colorado have no anti-hate crime
>laws; the state
>legislature in wyoming has voted down anti-bias bills for
>each of the past three years.  there is an effort in wyoming and
>colorado to enact matthew
>shepard laws, which would strongly punish the perpetrators of hate
>crimes.
>this petition demands the broadening of federal anti-hate crime law.
>
>opening statement: "as a religious voice, we state strongly that
>violence on the basis of sexual
>orientation, race or gender is wrong, is evil, is reprehensible." john
>buehren, president of the
>unitarian universalist association speaks for unitarian universalists,
>but his words are reflected in
>the hearts of people everywhere who believe we must speak out, take
>action against, and condemn
>hate crimes in all their ugly forms.  a resolution follows:
>whereas: we affirm and promote the inherent worth and dignity of every
>person
>whereas: we commend the efforts of those individuals who dedicate their
>lives to causes of life,
>liberty and pursuit of happiness.
>therefore be it resolved, that we hereby urge the passage of the hate
>crimes
>prevention act (hcpa), h.r.3081 and s.15 9. the hate crimes prevention
>act (hcpa),
>h.r.3081 and s.15 9, would amend current federal law (which permits
>federal prosecution of a hate
>crime only if the crime was motivated by bias based on religion,
>national origin,or color) to include
>real or perceived sexual orientation, gender, and disability so the fbi
>would be able to investigate
>and prosecute violent hate crimes against gays, lesbians, and
>bisexuals.  under this bill, hate crimes
>that cause death or bodily injury because of prejudice can be
>investigated federally, regardless of
>whether
>the victim was exercising a federally protected right.  the only way
>that our representatives can be
>aware of the base of support for this change to the current law is by
>making our voices heard.
>please add your name to this petition and forward it to friends who
>believe in what it stands for. the
>petition will then be forwarded to the president of the united  states;
>the vice president of the
>united states; and our united states senators and house members.
>petition management:
>1.   this petition is being passed around the internet. please add your
>name to it so that we can have
>tougher laws against all hate crimes. please keep the petition rolling.
>do not reply to me.
>please sign and forward to others to sign. this is being forwarded to
>several people at once to add
>their names. it will not matter if many people receive the same list as
>the names are being managed.
>2.   if you print out this petition for circulation and signing please
>email  the listing of names with
>locations to the email address:
> allrunique@aol.com  (an email address created to receive this
>petition).  include a
> note to indicate you have a hand-signed petition and include the number
>of names listed.
>3.   if you happen to be the 50th, 100th, 150th, 200th, 250th, (...)
>name on  this petition, please
>forward a copy to the above address.
>4.  if  you sign, please pass it on to others. if not, please do not
>kill it. send it on to the email
>address: allrunique@aol.com
>thank you
>leslie palmer
>i can not stay silent, my outrage and compassion will not allow.
>note: it is preferable that you select the entirety of this letter
>strand then copy it into a new
>outgoing message, add your name to the bottom of the list, then send it
>on. or if option is available,
>do a send-again.
>sign here:mary canote, sacramento, ca
>1)   leslie palmer, jacksonville, fl
>2)   stephen silverman, south burlington, vt
>3)   wayne arnason
>4)   theo diamond, charlottesville, va
>5)   sasha kopf, northampton, ma / princeton, nj
>6)   geoffrey b. metz, tufts univ., medford, ma
>7)   emily sporl, tufts university, medford, ma
>8)   tai collins, oberlin college, oberlin, oh
>9)   danielle lazarin, oberlin college, oberlin, oh
>10)  priscilla morales, yale university, new haven, ct
>11)  lydia pace, yale university, new haven, ct
>12)  julia goren, williams college, williamstown, ma
>13)  jamie waxman, columbia university
>14)  rebecca zimmerman, columbia university, ny
>15)  ariel meyerstein, columbia university, ny
>16)  naomi richman, goucher college, md
>17)  aaron finkel, university of missouri-columbia, mo
>18)  sally noedel, truman state univ., kirksville, mo
>19)  kim cook, oberlin college, oberlin, oh
>20)  molly mitchell, oberlin college, oberlin, oh
>21)  jeremy schwab, oberlin college, oberlin, oh
>22)  aaron manheim, oberlin college, oberlin, oh
>23)  rebecca pronsky, oberlin college, oberlin, oh
>24)  rebecca milburn, wesleyan univ., middletown, ct
>25)  christene dejong, wesleyan univ., middletown, ct
>26)  lisa lapman, wellesley college, wellesley, ma
>27)  julia sussner, wellesley college, ma
>28)  adrian dellecker, trinity college, ct
>29)  sarah mullen, trinity college, ct
>30)  phu thai, university of rhode island, kingston, ri
>31)  leigh phillips, wheaton college, norton, ma
>32)  dominic rozzi, ithaca college, ithaca, ny
>33)  matthew small, heidelburg college, tiffin oh
>34)  linda roach, ithaca college, ithaca, ny
>35)  julian halliday, schlumberger as, columbus, oh
>36)  elizabeth wohler, university of virginia, charlottesville, va
>37)  susan gordon, university of virginia, charlottesville, va
>38)  heidi cook, vassar college, poughkeepsie, ny
>39)  ariel spira-cohen, vassar college, poughkeepsie, ny
>40)  kerry maxwell, hamilton college, clinton, ny
>41)  emma mclaren, hamilton college, clinton, ny
>42)  michelle marsidi, brown university, providence, ri
>43)  eliana garcia, connecticut college, new london, ct
>44)  jaime viola, farmington, ct
>45)  ryan ihrke, luther college, decorah, ia
>46)  perry-o sliwa, luther college, decorah, ia
>47)  gui dall'stella, new york, ny  48)  abdul knowles, dain rauscher
>inc.
>49)  gerry petersen, st. ansgar schools, st. ansgar, ia
>50)  lori hagen, luther college, decorah, ia
>51)  jennifer kirking, prairie du chien, wi
>52)  regina check, prairie du chien, wisconsin
>53)  sarah guidotti, duquesne university, pittsburgh, pa
>54)  camella dimitri, tulane university, new orleans, la
>55)  c.m.ralph, redwood city, ca
>56)  sarah e. tigerman, redwood city, ca
>57)  karen r. zachow, san francisco, ca
>58)  sara jorde, minneapolis, mn
>59)  don sommers, minneapolis, mn
>60)  shawn allison, st. paul, mn
>61)  christine cucciarre, cleveland, oh
>62)  frank cucciarre, cleveland, oh
>63)  karen jewell-kett, cleveland, oh
>64)  ronald l. buford, cleveland, oh
>65)  david s. slobodien, dc., west hollywood, ca.
>66)  patrick casey, md, los angeles, ca
>67)  cristian cifuentes, west hollywood, ca
>68)  gary jimenez, montebello, ca
>69)  paige van riper, playa del rey, ca
>70)  helena delu, altadena, ca
>71)  edward e. boughton iii, ventura ca
>72)  edward mitchell, los angeles ca
>73)  monica mitchell, los angeles, ca
>74)  jack shih, los angeles, ca
>75)  eva aguilera, los angeles, ca
>76)  natasha gerasimova, venice, ca
>77)  andreas sengebusch, encino, ca
>78)  melissa ruggeri, studio city, ca
>79)  mary bredlau, dallas tx
>80)  l.a.ragland, dallas, tx
>81)  jackie mcshane, dallas,
>82)  richard clayton, dallas, tx
>83)  tammi d.baker, houston, tx
>84)  adam glick, boston, ma
>85)  jeremy glick, greenwich, ct
>86)  stacey smith, new canaan, ct
>87)  robin bouvier, boxborough, ma
>88)  kari rusing, norwalk, ct
>89)  melissa brown, washington, dc
>90)  tanya burrwell, washington, dc
>91)  alberto figueroa-garcia, washington, dc
>92)  charlie buquet, santa cruz, ca
>93)  tracy ballard, santa cruz, ca
>94)  marcus kettles, nyc, ny
>95)  paul pecorino, nyc, ny
>96)  jamie sanford, gainesville, fl
>97)  beryl firestone, tampa, fl
>98)  ryan goldenberg, tampa, fl
>99)  david niersbach, richmond, in
>100) sara parliament, richmond, in
>101) erin walker, colorado state university, fort collins, co
>102) amber armstrong, colorado springs, co
>103) ginger kite, colorado springs, co
>104) matt joiner, boulder, co
>105) anya domlesky, portland, or
>106) caitlin carlson, portland, or
>107) janel wright, portland, ore.
>108) charlene ongelungel, portland, or
>109) muranda brooker, portland, or
>110) tera cushman, portlant or
>111) rachel greenough, portland, or
>112) stephanie nicora, pebble beach, ca
>113) julie goetzen, san diego, ca
>114) dana ung, san diego, ca
>115) sirena ung, san diego, ca
>116) keri laprise, templeton, ma
>117) jared graves, otter river, ma
>118) amanda legay, fitchburg , ma
>119) joshua berg, west bloomfield mi
>120) michael canner, west bloomfield mi
>121) anna peterson, west bloomfield, mi
>122) lindsay mcfedries, bloomfield hills, mi
>123) kathleen jimbo, west bloomfield, mi
>124) justine yeung, beverly hills, mi
>125) j. blaine piraneo, manalapan, nj
>126) timothy arnold, colonia, nj
>127) sara okun, linden, nj
>128) steven rosete woodbridge, va
>129) carolyne williams, fairfax station, va
>130) lauren shelton, fairfax station, va
>131) john h. beyer iv, chicago, il.
>132) kathy bianchi, chicago, il
>133) ed garza, chicago, il
>134) scott anderson, chicago, il
>135) cleo f. wilson, chicago, il
>136) robert n. walton, chicago, il
>137)  ann w. walton, ann arbor, mi
>138)  stacey robinson, atlanta, ga
>139)  jennifer penn, atlanta, ga
>140)  denise o'connor, san francisco, ca
>141)  jean van delft, bradenton, fl
>142)  marge o'connor, singapore
>143)  stan brewer, houston, tx
>144)  max agold, houston, tx
>145)  barb turk, seattle, wa
>146)  reay schloss, orlando, fl
>147)  scott swenson, tampa, fl
>148)terence koszewnik, brandon, fl
>149)jessica science, brandon, fl
>150) timothy guerrieri, tampa, fl
>151) thomas pacio, davenport, fl
>152) adam pacio, hyde park, ny
>153) mike paestella, university of wisconsin-whitewater, wi
>154) laura aikey, green mountain college, poultney, vt 155) dennis
>horner, pittsburgh, pa
>156) mariellynn maurer, williamsburg, va
>157) rebecca finifter, williamsburg, va
>158) bernard finifter, east lansing, mi
>159) stanley stark, east lansing, mi
>160) joanna w. stark, east lansing, mi
>161) miriam stark, honolulu, hi
>162) mark elson, tucson, az
>163) helga wocherl, tucson, az
>164) larisa mar, cotati, ca
>165) kris montgomery, santa rosa, ca
>166) corey hale, guerneville, ca
>167) jessica higgins, ca
>168)  megan seely, ca
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1999 14:56:30 edt<br>>subject: mathew sheppard petition<br>>reply-to: =
<a=20
href=3d"mailto:whsseely@aol.com">whsseely@aol.com</a><br>>to:=20
undisclosed-recipients:;<br>><br>>if you would be so kind as to suppor=
t=20
this cause and sign this petition,<br>><br>>please pass it on to=20
others.<br>> if not, please do not kill it. simply send it to <a=20
href=3d"mailto:allrunique@aol.com">allrunique@aol.com</a><br>>so we can k=
eep=20
this cause alive and pass it on to others. =20
thank<br>>you.<br>><br>><br>>on october 6, outside laramie, wyom=
ing,=20
matthew shepard,<br>>a first year university of wyoming student, was=20
tortured, beaten, and<br>>left tied<br>>to a pole in the freezing cold=
.=20
six days later, he died of his wounds in<br>><br>>>>=20
>>>>> poudre valley hospital, fort collins, colorado. matthew=
=20
was<br>>murdered because he<br>>was gay and because he was a prominent=
and=20
charismatic member of the gay<br>>and lesbian student<br>>group on cam=
pus.=20
right now wyoming and colorado have no anti-hate crime<br>>laws; the=20
state<br>>legislature in wyoming has voted down anti-bias bills=20
for<br>>each of the past three years.  there is an effort in wyoming=
=20
and<br>>colorado to enact matthew<br>>shepard laws, which would strong=
ly=20
punish the perpetrators of hate<br>>crimes.<br>>this petition demands =
the=20
broadening of federal anti-hate crime law.<br>><br>>opening statement:=
=20
"as a religious voice, we state strongly that<br>>violence on the ba=
sis=20
of sexual<br>>orientation, race or gender is wrong, is evil, is=20
reprehensible." john<br>>buehren, president of the<br>>unitarian=
=20
universalist association speaks for unitarian universalists,<br>>but his=
=20
words are reflected in<br>>the hearts of people everywhere who believe we=
=20
must speak out, take<br>>action against, and condemn<br>>hate crimes i=
n=20
all their ugly forms.  a resolution follows:<br>>whereas: we affirm =
and=20
promote the inherent worth and dignity of every<br>>person<br>>whereas=
: we=20
commend the efforts of those individuals who dedicate their<br>>lives to=
=20
causes of life,<br>>liberty and pursuit of happiness.<br>>therefore be=
it=20
resolved, that we hereby urge the passage of the=20
hate<br>>crimes<br>>prevention act (hcpa), h.r.3081 and s.15 9. the ha=
te=20
crimes prevention<br>>act (hcpa),<br>>h.r.3081 and s.15 9, would amend=
=20
current federal law (which permits<br>>federal prosecution of a=20
hate<br>>crime only if the crime was motivated by bias based on=20
religion,<br>>national origin,or color) to include<br>>real or perceiv=
ed=20
sexual orientation, gender, and disability so the fbi<br>>would be able t=
o=20
investigate<br>>and prosecute violent hate crimes against gays, lesbians,=
=20
and<br>>bisexuals.  under this bill, hate crimes<br>>that cause d=
eath=20
or bodily injury because of prejudice can be<br>>investigated federally,=
=20
regardless of<br>>whether<br>>the victim was exercising a federally=20
protected right.  the only way<br>>that our representatives can=20
be<br>>aware of the base of support for this change to the current law is=
=20
by<br>>making our voices heard.<br>>please add your name to this petit=
ion=20
and forward it to friends who<br>>believe in what it stands for.=20
the<br>>petition will then be forwarded to the president of the united&nb=
sp;=20
states;<br>>the vice president of the<br>>united states; and our unite=
d=20
states senators and house members.<br>>petition=20
management:<br>>1.   this petition is being passed around the=
=20
internet. please add your<br>>name to it so that we can have<br>>tough=
er=20
laws against all hate crimes. please keep the petition rolling.<br>>do no=
t=20
reply to me.<br>>please sign and forward to others to sign. this is being=
=20
forwarded to<br>>several people at once to add<br>>their names. it wil=
l=20
not matter if many people receive the same list as<br>>the names are bein=
g=20
managed.<br>>2.   if you print out this petition for circulatio=
n=20
and signing please<br>>email  the listing of names with<br>>locat=
ions=20
to the email address:<br>> <a=20
href=3d"mailto:allrunique@aol.com">allrunique@aol.com</a>  (an email ad=
dress=20
created to receive this<br>>petition).  include a<br>> note to=20
indicate you have a hand-signed petition and include the number<br>>of na=
mes=20
listed.<br>>3.   if you happen to be the 50th, 100th, 150th, 20=
0th,=20
250th, (...)<br>>name on  this petition, please<br>>forward a cop=
y to=20
the above address.<br>>4.  if  you sign, please pass it on to=
=20
others. if not, please do not<br>>kill it. send it on to the=20
email<br>>address: <a=20
href=3d"mailto:allrunique@aol.com">allrunique@aol.com</a><br>>thank=20
you<br>>leslie palmer<br>>i can not stay silent, my outrage and compas=
sion=20
will not allow.<br>>note: it is preferable that you select the entirety o=
f=20
this letter<br>>strand then copy it into a new<br>>outgoing message, a=
dd=20
your name to the bottom of the list, then send it<br>>on. or if option is=
=20
available,<br>>do a send-again.<br>>sign here:mary canote, sacramento,=
=20
ca<br>>1)   leslie palmer, jacksonville, fl<br>>2) &nbs=
p;=20
stephen silverman, south burlington, vt<br>>3)   wayne=20
arnason<br>>4)   theo diamond, charlottesville,=20
va<br>>5)   sasha kopf, northampton, ma / princeton,=20
nj<br>>6)   geoffrey b. metz, tufts univ., medford,=20
ma<br>>7)   emily sporl, tufts university, medford,=20
ma<br>>8)   tai collins, oberlin college, oberlin,=20
oh<br>>9)   danielle lazarin, oberlin college, oberlin,=20
oh<br>>10)  priscilla morales, yale university, new haven,=20
ct<br>>11)  lydia pace, yale university, new haven, ct<br>>12)&nb=
sp;=20
julia goren, williams college, williamstown, ma<br>>13)  jamie waxma=
n,=20
columbia university<br>>14)  rebecca zimmerman, columbia university,=
=20
ny<br>>15)  ariel meyerstein, columbia university, ny<br>>16)&nbs=
p;=20
naomi richman, goucher college, md<br>>17)  aaron finkel, university=
of=20
missouri-columbia, mo<br>>18)  sally noedel, truman state univ.,=20
kirksville, mo<br>>19)  kim cook, oberlin college, oberlin,=20
oh<br>>20)  molly mitchell, oberlin college, oberlin,=20
oh<br>>21)  jeremy schwab, oberlin college, oberlin, oh<br>>22)&n=
bsp;=20
aaron manheim, oberlin college, oberlin, oh<br>>23)  rebecca pronsky=
,=20
oberlin college, oberlin, oh<br>>24)  rebecca milburn, wesleyan univ=
.,=20
middletown, ct<br>>25)  christene dejong, wesleyan univ., middletown=
,=20
ct<br>>26)  lisa lapman, wellesley college, wellesley,=20
ma<br>>27)  julia sussner, wellesley college, ma<br>>28)  ad=
rian=20
dellecker, trinity college, ct<br>>29)  sarah mullen, trinity colleg=
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ct<br>>30)  phu thai, university of rhode island, kingston,=20
ri<br>>31)  leigh phillips, wheaton college, norton, ma<br>>32)&n=
bsp;=20
dominic rozzi, ithaca college, ithaca, ny<br>>33)  matthew small,=20
heidelburg college, tiffin oh<br>>34)  linda roach, ithaca college,=
=20
ithaca, ny<br>>35)  julian halliday, schlumberger as, columbus,=20
oh<br>>36)  elizabeth wohler, university of virginia, charlottesvill=
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va<br>>37)  susan gordon, university of virginia, charlottesville,=
=20
va<br>>38)  heidi cook, vassar college, poughkeepsie,=20
ny<br>>39)  ariel spira-cohen, vassar college, poughkeepsie,=20
ny<br>>40)  kerry maxwell, hamilton college, clinton,=20
ny<br>>41)  emma mclaren, hamilton college, clinton, ny<br>>42)&n=
bsp;=20
michelle marsidi, brown university, providence, ri<br>>43)  eliana=
=20
garcia, connecticut college, new london, ct<br>>44)  jaime viola,=20
farmington, ct<br>>45)  ryan ihrke, luther college, decorah,=20
ia<br>>46)  perry-o sliwa, luther college, decorah, ia<br>>47)&nb=
sp;=20
gui dall'stella, new york, ny  48)  abdul knowles, dain=20
rauscher<br>>inc.<br>>49)  gerry petersen, st. ansgar schools, st=
.=20
ansgar, ia<br>>50)  lori hagen, luther college, decorah,=20
ia<br>>51)  jennifer kirking, prairie du chien, wi<br>>52) =
=20
regina check, prairie du chien, wisconsin<br>>53)  sarah guidotti,=
=20
duquesne university, pittsburgh, pa<br>>54)  camella dimitri, tulane=
=20
university, new orleans, la<br>>55)  c.m.ralph, redwood city,=20
ca<br>>56)  sarah e. tigerman, redwood city, ca<br>>57)  kar=
en=20
r. zachow, san francisco, ca<br>>58)  sara jorde, minneapolis,=20
mn<br>>59)  don sommers, minneapolis, mn<br>>60)  shawn alli=
son,=20
st. paul, mn<br>>61)  christine cucciarre, cleveland,=20
oh<br>>62)  frank cucciarre, cleveland, oh<br>>63)  karen=20
jewell-kett, cleveland, oh<br>>64)  ronald l. buford, cleveland,=20
oh<br>>65)  david s. slobodien, dc., west hollywood,=20
ca.<br>>66)  patrick casey, md, los angeles, ca<br>>67) =20
cristian cifuentes, west hollywood, ca<br>>68)  gary jimenez,=20
montebello, ca<br>>69)  paige van riper, playa del rey,=20
ca<br>>70)  helena delu, altadena, ca<br>>71)  edward e.=20
boughton iii, ventura ca<br>>72)  edward mitchell, los angeles=20
ca<br>>73)  monica mitchell, los angeles, ca<br>>74)  jack s=
hih,=20
los angeles, ca<br>>75)  eva aguilera, los angeles, ca<br>>76)&nb=
sp;=20
natasha gerasimova, venice, ca<br>>77)  andreas sengebusch, encino,=
=20
ca<br>>78)  melissa ruggeri, studio city, ca<br>>79)  mary=
=20
bredlau, dallas tx<br>>80)  l.a.ragland, dallas, tx<br>>81) =
=20
jackie mcshane, dallas,<br>>82)  richard clayton, dallas,=20
tx<br>>83)  tammi d.baker, houston, tx<br>>84)  adam glick,=
=20
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cey=20
smith, new canaan, ct<br>>87)  robin bouvier, boxborough,=20
ma<br>>88)  kari rusing, norwalk, ct<br>>89)  melissa brown,=
=20
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sp;=20
alberto figueroa-garcia, washington, dc<br>>92)  charlie buquet, san=
ta=20
cruz, ca<br>>93)  tracy ballard, santa cruz, ca<br>>94)  mar=
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ach,=20
richmond, in<br>>100) sara parliament, richmond, in<br>>101) erin walk=
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colorado state university, fort collins, co<br>>102) amber armstrong,=20
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matt joiner, boulder, co<br>>105) anya domlesky, portland, or<br>>106)=
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=20
nj<br>>126) timothy arnold, colonia, nj<br>>127) sara okun, linden,=20
nj<br>>128) steven rosete woodbridge, va<br>>129) carolyne williams,=
=20
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date:         fri, 23 apr 1999 14:16:38 +1000
reply-to:     joanna <ccjld@alinga.newcastle.edu.au>
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from:         joanna <ccjld@alinga.newcastle.edu.au>
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hey y'all,

shame on you aussies! i'm on digest so i thought i'd wait because i
thought surely someone else would have posted this already.

a few days ago, maybe wednesday, there was an interview with sarah
mclachlan on e news (the australian version) regarding the upcoming lilith
tour to oz (we're getting liltih for sure - sarah said so :)) yay!)

unfortunately i'd fallen asleep and someone had taken the remote of me
(i've been sick - so i've taken to dozing on the lounge) fortunately i
woke up in time - but if i'd had the remote i would have been taping.

they showed a clip of water is wide and then they panned across the stage
and there were our girls. it was only very brief, a few seconds and it was
quite dark - but it was good to see them - especially on australian tv -
where we hardly see them at all. damn i wish i'd been taping.

as for lilith fair in australia - i think they said it would be on in
december of this year. and that sarah would be coming and kylie minogue
(???) sorry but i don't imagine her as lilith material. to meet the aussie
artist quota it would be more appropriate to include girls like the velvet
janes, tiddas, dianna ah niad, bluehouse, maybe marie wilson. but kylie
the princess of pop?? its bad enough that dannii minogue is the official gay
and lesbian mardi gras artist (sure the gay guys go loopy over them, but
they are neither lesbian or bi..but this is another issue and not relevant
to this rant)

they didn't mention whether the girls would be included in the aussie
lilith.  anyone have any suggestions who should tour to aust and europe -
are you guys getting it soon??

any way this has gone on much longer then i planned - thats what i get for
lurking so long - i just have to get it all out in one big post.

peace, love and rock'n roll
joanna

        love is a piano

                dropped from a four storey window"
                                                  ~ani di franco

joanna - ccjld@alinga.newcastle.edu.au
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chris talbot wrote:

>i wonder if some kind friend out there would mind taking over the =
"great lakes region" duties.  i have a more complete letter, but i =
>thought rather than bother the list, i'd fwd it to the kind soul who =
agreed to bail me out...  someone... please!  i'd even toss in a >free =
bootleg

base is covered.  we should be posting the real deal to y'all within the =
next couple of days.=20

take care,

greta
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date:         sat, 24 apr 1999 11:02:24 -0400
reply-to:     meg merwin <mcm5h@cms.mail.virginia.edu>
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from:         meg merwin <mcm5h@cms.mail.virginia.edu>
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        i woke up this morning on my own (thanks to the fact that we have had no electricity
this morning....until now!) and as i was lying in my bed i heard a few bars of "joking" at first
i thought i was dreaming---but when i got up to check---it got louder....the only scary thing is
that the music was coming from the frat house behind my dorm....weird, i guess their music is
getting around! it was a nice way to wake up.

so, i will return to lurking in the shadows....meg

p.s.....is anyone on the ani list?? i went to her concert here in charlottesville (april
20)---and i wanted to know if anyone had a boot or a set list......write me privately (thanks!).

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date:         sat, 24 apr 1999 22:46:58 -0400
reply-to:     "karrie a. bowen" <karrie@ncinter.net>
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hey all!

thought you all might be interested in what happened here in dc last
night.  come out if you can and help us stop this crap!!

thanks and peace-


karrie b.

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date: sat, 24 apr 1999 19:18:35 -0400 (edt)
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to: dc-zaps@www.now.org
subject: dc-zaps protest to demand an end to all hate crimes (update)

>from the national organization for women action center:

stop the violence!
stop the hate!

at 3:00am on saturday, april 24, 1999, two women were assaulted as they
waited for a taxi in front of a lesbian nightclub in downtown washington,
d.c.  the women -- who were in town from ohio for the 1999 lesbian rights
summit -- resisted, defended themselves and were able to escape when their
assailants fled.

you can support these women and stand against hate crimes and violence.
join us at a protest to demand an end to all hate crimes and passage of
the 1999 hate crimes prevention act!
(http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d106:h.r.1082)

place: u.s. supreme court
1st street and maryland avenue ne

date: sunday, april 25 (tomorrow)
12:30 pm

for more information call 202-737-1234 and ask for the now registration
office.

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combined federal campaign (cfc) pledge!

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date:         sun, 25 apr 1999 03:49:18 edt
reply-to:     indigogri@aol.com
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would the person (or someone) with the site for the mp3's please email me it.
i lost the site and need it terribly bad. i wasn't done recording them all.

thanks!

indigo dreams yall

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date:         sun, 25 apr 1999 13:52:02 edt
reply-to:     vrae111@aol.com
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word-
         would anyone be so kind as to email the address to the site of the
mp3's to me?  i've been meaning to download some stuff for the longest
time...and now since i have pneumonia, i have my chance.  woohoo.   let's
hear it for viral infections...  thanks-

                                                        grl

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date:         sun, 25 apr 1999 14:01:15 -0400
reply-to:     lisa ann maniscalco <lmanisc@emory.edu>
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subject:      vonda/emily on radio, variety playhouse
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hey everyone!

i just returned from an overnight camping trip with my backpacking class
(i'm a senior at emory - i needed something to fulfill that last pe
requirement!). anyways, just as i was getting out of my car yesterday
morning to meet up with my classmates, i heard the vonda/emily
song on the radio here (star 94).  it is a beautiful song, but i'm a
little confused cause i think i heard emily only once or twice.  does
emily play the piano?  or does she sing a lot and i just missed it
somehow?  anyone who's heard it can let me know!  thanks

and, did anyone go to the show last night at the variety playhouse?  were
the girls there?  how was it?  i would have liked to go.

one other thing, i've heard shame on you so many times on star 94 in the
past few weeks (including just now on the way back from the camping trip),
you'd think it was just released or something. of course, i don't mind
hearing it all the time.

and just one word of obvious advice.  when you go hiking, stick to the
trails!  we had some overzealous classmates who decided that instead of
turing around (cause we went too far) we'd just go up and over a
not-so-flat mountain/hill and bushwack.  well, it was fun, but only
because we all went past the point of reason and had to laugh at
everything - falling, getting another scrape across our shins from those
thorns, calling out for that bomber guy who is hiding out in the woods
(we could have used some of his survival expertise!).

looking forward to some rest tonight!  have a great week everyone.
lisa

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date:         sun, 25 apr 1999 20:33:18 edt
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hey y'all~

just wondering if anyone from the list (i know someone has to be) is gonna
see ani at the house of blues tomorrow night?  this will be my first time
seeing her (she hasn't seen me yet either).   anyway, if anybody wants to
party with us, drop me an email.

"tell me, who's your boogeyman?  that's who i will be, you don't have to like
me for who i am, see what you're made of by what you make of me"  ~ani

peace and all things good,
summer

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difranco and mclaughlin that is.... can some one tell me if there is a list
for these two and how do i find it?  also, any other sites/boards would be
useful too!   thanks in advance and sorry for wasting bandwidth (whatever
that is....)
mary

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mary hannon wrote:
>
> difranco and mclaughlin that is.... can some one tell me if there is a list
> for these two and how do i find it?


here is some subscription info for the ani list.  don't know about
sarah.
elaine
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date:         mon, 26 apr 1999 00:59:58 edt
reply-to:     memememi@aol.com
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since no one else has come forward yet, i guess i'll have to do it.   =)
(i'm not good at writing reviews, so bear with me!)

the rumors were true.  indigo girls were indeed the "special guests" at the
rock down to earth benefit concert saturday night, in atlanta at the variety
playhouse.   they played all new material (with the exception of galileo),
and it was a great show.   unfortunately, i don't think the people really
believed the rumor, as attendance was pretty light.   not too good - since it
was a benefit.  but towards the end of the night, more people did come in.

they played the following songs:
galileo - you can tell it's been a while since they played it, when emily
forgets her lines! =)
gone again
hey andy (????) - new "very very sad" song by emily.  about a girl who loves
a farmer, who loves another girl.    emily played a new instrument on this
song - a bazooki mandolin.
sister - new version - with some *very* cool vocals from emily (and i didn't
think this song could get any better! =)
cold beer and remote control - amy introduced this new emily song as a
"working man's song" (i love this song!!!!!!!!!!)
(????) - new song by amy - very folky, country sounding.    she played it
solo on the mandolin.
go -  a huge crowd favorite

other artists that performed at the benefit include belloluna (always so much
fun to see!!), and phbalance (also a lot of fun to experience live).

=)
lisa

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date:         mon, 26 apr 1999 00:55:24 edt
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hey everyone...i don't post often...but i felt compelled after the weekend
that i just had.  this weekend i attened the n.o.w. lesbian rights summit in
washington d.c...it was a summit organized to educate and discuss issues
facing the glbt community..all of this working up to a rally/ protest at the
supreme court steps sunday afternoon.  during our stay at the hyatt regency
where the summit was held...one of my facilitators (i came w/ a group from
ohio state university) went to a gay club/bar and while waiting for a cab on
the corner down the street...she was attacked by 2 men..while another man &
woman watched...luckily..she fought back..and the incident ended w/ only a
slightly dislocated jaw.  my friend was attacked because she is a
lesbian....this is a hate crime...and this needs to be addressed and put to
stop by our government.  thus...what this all boils down to...is that i am
urging everyone...to write to your local senate representative and ask them
to vote to pass the hate crimes act of 1999. it is very important that this
gets passed in the senate...but your senators need to hear from people in
their own state...so please...write your senator...and let's get this passed.
thanks for reading through this impossibly long post...:)
peace & music,
jenn

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hey everyone...i had the exceptional privilige of seeing sonia of disappear
fear perform this weekend on friday evening.  she was absolutely
outstanding...although most of the group which attended this event was rude
and inconsiderate...she had a very powerful performance.  i had never heard
any of her music...but i suggest everyone go out immediatly and buy some
cd's.  most of her set was accoustic..and at one point...during one
song...sonia unplugged her guitar...and stood at the edge of the stage..and
played the song for the crowd of about 30 who surrounded her....it was very
intimate and personal...and left most of us teary eyed...:)  she then plugged
in her electric..and just rocked the house...it was fabulous.  once
again...go out and get some of her cd's....she is really wonderful!! :)
peace & music,
jenn

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date:         mon, 26 apr 1999 03:27:53 pdt
reply-to:     rancorous spice <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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(my apologies for the cross-posts.)

hey, baby, what'ch'a doin' friday night?  wink wink oooh.
ya wanna come swing with the swingers, hang with tha hepcats, be where
it's at?  baby, you're so money.  have i got a deal for you.
-   -    -   -   -   -    -    -

for immediate release and gratuitous forwarding to any and all music
listservs (mckeown, dar, etc) and interested parties!

rose polenzani to play oberlin, take 2,
a.k.a. what i did my spring semester,  by jilly.

the kinda-leonard-cohen-writin', sorta-pj-harvey-wailin', funkmistress
and goddess supreme, ever-so-lovely ms. rose polenzani will be playing
an acoustic, unplugged show **this friday** at my own little oberlin
college.  oh can you stand it.  ohh.
if you've never heard her perform, allow me a moment to shake my head
sadly, paw my foot at the ground, and give you a long, reproachful
look.  you must, you must, you must hear this woman.
oh my,
oh me,
oh you,
you who so desperately needs a night of good music.

this show is number 2 in what appears to be becoming a series of
entirely grass-roots, me-conceived and -organized concerts. (i'm so
thoroughly amused that i can keep pulling these shows off.  so hey.)
it's a triple bill, with student singer-songwriters rebecca pronsky
and josh ritter, both of whom have quite a following here (read:
they're good.  3,000 obies can't be wrong ;)) opening.  the show
will be held in our women's collective, a beautiful huge stone
castle-like house with a nice big wood-paneled (i'm big on the wood
paneling, oh my yes) gathering room that will make for a gorgeous
concert-in-the-round. so. and it ain't gonna be over till the roof
comes down.  and why?  because this is my show, and i say so.  nyah
nyah.

once more, a little louder now.
rose polenzani @ oberlin college
baldwin women's collective main lounge
30 south professor st., oberlin oh
8pm friday apr 30 99
tickets $15 for non-obies
you *must* let me know in advance that you're coming.  because of
issues of student security, all non-oberlin-students (uh, all of you
guys) have to tell me ahead of time that you're coming.  i'll
guest-list the names of those who email me to confirm; only those
names on the list will be allowed in the door.  rrar.
email me at jillian.certo@oberlin.edu , not this email address.
(hotmail is having glitches and our internet server keeps crashing and
--.  yeah.)

so uhm.  come.  pleeeease come.  it's going to be faaabulous, baby,
just smashing.  overnight accomodations can be arranged; driving
directions can be found under the 'admissions' section at
http://www.oberlin.edu . indigohioans, i'll be expecting you.

i sold my soul to indie folk
and all i got was this stupid email...
jill


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date:         mon, 26 apr 1999 15:28:02 -0000
reply-to:     melissa singhaus <msinghaus@msmisp.com>
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subject:      people i owe tapes to please read
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kathrin siegmund- i have yours done just not marked yet

bethany ward. i am re doing the tape now and i got the two postcards and =
the enevolope ready to put the tape in when it is done

jude i never got the columbus boot back yet

sheryl jones- the franklin and marshall boot i think is done but not =
marked yet

shelley miller greek theater two tapes. not done yet

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jill anderson ? no idea what i am suppose to do

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date:         mon, 26 apr 1999 17:17:18 -0400
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hey...

sorry to bother y'all... i'm hoping to announce the tree details for this
project in the next day or two, what i need to know is if any of the tree
volunteers have still to get their discs to me (if you haven't had an email
saying they're being sent back to you, they're not here!)

and if you were waiting for an email from me for whatever reason (and this
goes for everyone) i'm really bad at remembering, so y'all might have to
remind me lots, and that i don't mind...

'preciate your help.

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hkf's,

to add to lisa's review - here's mine... (long!)
8-)
and yes, as you already know, ig was there to support the "earth day benefit
- rock down to earth" and they were indeed very special guests that
evening...

(first a little mood...)

a beautiful and hot saturday led to some burnt skin and some tired legs
playing under that big ball of orange all day...  but the variety playhouse
is a sweet little ol theater that makes for such an intimate setting to hear
some great tunes...  got a cold one and headed up to the balcony and saw a
dreadful sign "balcony closed" - excuisme?  closed?  saw cry, cry, cry from
the balcony and thought it was a great overview spot - but since the
attendance was unfortunately (& fortunately) very light, 2nd row in front of
amy sounded just a tiny-bit better!

so as i walk in (a little late too), i'm not even sure ig is going to be
there - i walk right up to the soundboard guy and ask what band is on next -
and he says "indigo girls in 24 minutes".  so since it's inappropriate to
hug strangers (not intimate strangers mind you) i kept my composure and
didn't tackle him & asked to see the setlist sitting right in front of him.
so even before the show started i knew the setlist!!!  it didn't really ruin
the surprise b/c there were 2 brand new emily songs - so nothing was going
to dampen my spirits when i was going to be the first audience to hear her
long-awaited new songs...

anyway - setlist (got it from that soundboard guy - even though listee
heather got her's from sulli, but i'll take mine when i can get em!):

galileo
gone again
andy
sister
cold beer
(amy solo song-?)
go

galileo - great way to get things going - amy's hair is getting longer, on
it's way to rop length (oh no, what did i do?!) - but they both looked like
angels standing there under that light...  emily, i think, said in the
beginning - we haven't played in a while so we might be a bit rusty...
rusty?  if that night was rusty for them, then the next tour is going to be
smokin'!!!!  overall, they were incredible - especially the new emily
songs...  ooppss...  i digress...  back to the songs...

gone again...  i'll be at the rainbow room... la la laaa, la da da daaa.
great song - not one of my faves of amy but still real good.  and i love the
junky girl...  part - gave a junky girl a smile - ... and she swindled my
last 20, for a kiss and some poetry...  ahhh... amy....

andy.  emily said: - this is a sad song - it's about a girl who likes (maybe
she said loves) a man, but he likes another girl.  also amy said "i'm going
to be the backup band for this song" - so apparently this is very, very new.
i just have to say one thing "emily's back!!!!!!"  great song (it's so good
i'm shouting right now)...  not to take anything away from sots, but andy
gives me flashbacks to my favorite two albums (rop & so) - which as y'all
know had some amazing emily songs - i thought sots lacked a little bit on
the emily side, so i am very excited to hear all her songs...
"annn-dyyyyyyy"... ahhh... emily...

sister - great song - has that powerful amy energy that gets me up in the
morning...  last heard it at the roxy, i believe, and this was a little bit
more mellow than that version - but was still great to hear...  eyes closed
and everything - i think emily has added a little bit more to the backing
vocals - but it was pretty sweet...

cold beer and remote control
(setlist reads cold beer, but i think that's just an abbreviation - like say
map is often written on setlists)  -  real good song (hey, any new emily
song is wonderful to hear!) - andy is real mellow, and this song is more of
clap your hands and sing along type of a song...  "... i lost my mind...
yayaya... time after time..."  but it's a fun song and the crowd was really
enjoying it...

(amy solo song - ?)
can't remember a repeating line at all - it was a quick fun song she played
on her baby-guitar (ok, mandolin).  lots of lyrics and pretty much she sang
all the lyrics with no breaks and the song was over - maybe a 2 minute or so
song.  emily stepped back and didn't play/sing at all, so maybe it's just
something she wanted to throw in there (wasn't on the setlist)...

go...  "raise your hands, raise your hands, high!!!!!!!"  wow!!!!  one of my
favorites of amy's new stuff and even after hearing it a bunch of times -
still doesn't disappoint at all!!!!!  great note to end the short show on -
really got the blood flowin' and the smiles a smilin'....  "don't assume
anything... just go, go, go..."

last ig-note - amy introduced ph-balance who closed the show... interesting
combination of a band...  female singer - great voice - but the other
vocalists adds a rap - and then he's rappin' and she's singing backup...
took a little while to get used to the groove of the band - but with some
kickin' bass lines - the band had a pretty decent little funk-groove thing
going that was pretty phat (to go along with their website lingo)...  during
their set the one & only ms. ray was groovin' to the beat a few feet from
me...  needless to say my neck is sore from turning around so many times...
but it was fun to see amy enjoying herself to the young band on her label...

wow... real long...
ok - that's about it...  can't wait for news of a tour sometime soon - but
we'll see...  i think they're ready!!!!!
8-)
a+e=ig
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date:         mon, 26 apr 1999 18:35:46 pdt
reply-to:     diane wong <arle@hotmail.com>
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i just wanted to let you know that as i was driving in glendale today
(california), i rolled down the windows and pumped up the volume to
hear vonda shepard and emily saliers sing, "baby, don't you break my
heart slow" (as opposed to fast, the djay said, into shreds).  it was
on the pop/rock station, 102.7 kiis fm, and i have never heard the
indigo girls on *that* station.

don't forget, that song will play in tonight's episode of ally mcbeal
on the fox network.  check your local listings.

diane :)

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date:         mon, 26 apr 1999 23:13:39 -0400
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subject:      nigc - amanda garrigues' upcoming gigs
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hey everyone.  this is the fabulous talent i've been telling you all about.
i'm asking as a personal favor for you guys to show up if you can.  you
will not be disappointed!
see you there!
cheri

>one more for the road....

>amanda garrigues
>tuesday, may 4th - eddie's attic
>w/ sonya vetra and melanie sparks
>eddie's attic
>515-b north mcdonough street, decatur, ga.
>(404) 377-4976
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>sonya at 9
>melanie at 10
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>tell all your friends.  tell them to tell their friends.
>
>stay tuned for more of amanda's upcoming shows in your town...'cause they're
>comin'!
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date:         tue, 27 apr 1999 08:13:06 +0200
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mary hannon wrote:

>difranco and mclaughlin that is.... can some one tell me if there is a list
>for these two and how do i find it?  also, any other sites/boards would be
>useful too!

yep, so here's the site for the sarah mclachlan mailing list, the "fumblers":

http://www.aquezada.com/sarah/fumblers/

come in and find out ;-)

britta
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date:         tue, 27 apr 1999 02:02:48 pdt
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hi,
a week ago there was a posting with a url where you could listen to a
sound clip from the vonda/emily duet. i deleted that e-mail by
mistake... can somebody help me???

/fanny

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hey guys...after my sprint to see my mom, i stayed unsubbed in
preparation...but here are the b-days (one day late) *heh*

april 26
peachy706@aol.com (katie)

april 26 ('77)
ahill7o9@mwcgw.mwc.edu (anne hill)

april 27
tawaz@facstaff.eisc.edu (terese walz)
*shaming of the sun, april 29 1997

april 30
llevy03@emory.edu (lori levy)


may

may 1 ('71)
markt@iinet.com.au (mark tovey)

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the me stuff:  thank al of you who sent me your thoughts and
prayers...it's amazing sometimes to know how many people are out there
that our touched.  my mother did die on saturday april 24th (which also
happened to be my grandma's 90th birthday...leave it to my mom to go out
with a bang...*soft smiles*) so i will be gone from wed thru saturday of
this week, and then i will re-sub.  in case anyone wanted to know...

thank you all again...i appreciate it more than words.

love and ati (all things indigo),
audra
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sorry but i have to vent...one of my biggest pet peeves is when people spell
sarah's name mclaughlin...i mean...where did this come from? her cds say
mclachlan, her videos say mclachlan, she says mclachlan...so why do people
always say mclaughlin?????is there something i have missed? do people write
defranco? do people write amy rae and emily sayliers? i didn't think so...

flame me if you want but it really irks me when people who claim to be big
fans don't spell her name right...

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so, did yall watch ally mcbeal last night?  i
completely forgot that vonda was gonna be singing that
song!  and then towards the end of the show...i heard
that beautiful voice...emily...

i was watching w some friends...and when i heard emily
- i was smiling huge - and i said...'well you know who
*that* is dont you?!'  my friends just looked at me w
this - 'well arent you gonna tell us' look...or wait
it could have been the 'she's crazy!' look...heehee
either way - no biggy...they know how i am about ig!
anyway - i said, 'it's emily!!'  (blank stares)  'from
the ig!!!'

anyway - nice to hear em's voice...
rock on,
sunny

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ok folks,

so sorry that i'm dumb and i delete too fast. plus the fact that i was
unsubbed for two weeks doesn't help, but did i read a message not so long
ago that said that the girls are going to be at the gorge with lilith on
7/9 and 10, or was that some sort of psychic dream? and if they are going
to be there, how did you cool people find out since i can't seem to find
it anywhere? i mean, it's not that i doubt anyone cuz this list is the
most happenin' place to find out about that stuff, but i was just curious.

thanx,
amy m.

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okay, don't think i'm losing my mind... (although you wouldn't be too far
off if you did :) )

does anyone else wish hotmail an early death??  for the past two days, it's
been sending me messages--that i've already read and deleted--from last
thursday.  then, today, i get a jumbled mess of *130* messages, some of
which i've read, some of which i've never received, all of which are out of
order and very confusing!!

aaaagggghhhh!!!

sorry to waste bandwidth for my personal email frustrations, but i just
wanted to know if anyone else is suffering from the same problem, or if i'm
all alone in my misery.

thanks for listening to me rant! ;)

awfully warm in hotmail hades,
shannon
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unknown

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compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and
tolerant of the weak and the strong. because someday in life you
will have been all of these."       --george washington carver

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date:         tue, 27 apr 1999 09:02:09 pdt
reply-to:     shelley miller <strange_fire66@hotmail.com>
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hey all,

its me, shelley, den mom for this whole smallternative thing...since
i've seen a few posts, i thought i'd answer questions en masse...i
have set up a tree, and am just starting to get tapes in from the
branches.  once i get all of their tapes back to them, i will announce
the tree to the list en masse.  it'll probably be a few weeks.

as for burning it to cd, i'm a pretty lo-tech kind of a gal (my own
contributions to the tape were recorded on a lovely handheld
walgreen's tape recorder).  i have no idea how any of that stuff
works!  if someone is interested in doing this (and enlightening me
as to how it is done), please e-mail me off the list.

in twang i twust,
shel

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**
i still love the trombone.  i was listening to old chicago and ya
know?  i
love the trombone.  what if amy or emily learned how to play the
trombone?
or what if they just had that in a song of theirs...i'd freak.  i
think i've
said that before though.**
hmmm, wellm theres some 'bone in new mongrels...thats sorta close....
amy played flute *shudders* (nobody get sensitive! i *played* the
flute til 9th grade when i wised up and switched ;)  ), but can't see
her as one of those....
i've always thought it would be cool to play trombone for the whistle
solo in c2f cuz a slide whistle is a lot like an itty bitty trombone
w/ out the wonderful brass buzz.
here's to 'bone solos!!
(glenn miller lives!)


**dorkie? yes.  but, it's important to know that i'm a bonafide dork.
-chee**
yeah!!!  i was so close to being the queen of geek week in my dorm
this year.....
sulli was a trombone!!  :)   shes the coolest person alive, yes she
is.

carol, yet another dork
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date:         tue, 27 apr 1999 09:43:19 -0700
reply-to:     "lynn cardamone (lca)" <lynncar@microsoft.com>
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from:         "lynn cardamone (lca)" <lynncar@microsoft.com>
subject:      re-post - pacific northwest ig sub list - news flash!!!!!!   lili
              th fair lineup announced today!

here is a copy of what i posted to our pacific northwest ig sub list this
morning - there is some good information about the lilith fair 1999 line-up
i though you all might like to see.

there are web links too so you can find more information---->
http://lilithfair.xoom.com

did you see the indigo girls link on the lilith web??  -------->
http://lilithfair.xoom.com/artists/indigogirls/index.html - no official
announcement about ig - but they still have a "tba" for the 7/9 gorge show.
maybe it is ig!!!  hope so....

enjoy!
lynn in seattle  :-)

> -----original message-----
> from: lynn
> sent: tuesday, april 27, 1999 9:23 am
> to:   pnw sub list
> subject:      pnw sub list - news flash!!!!!! -  pier schedule/lilith fair
> lineup announced today!
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> concert news
        also, the lilith fair schedule was announced this morning at
http://lilithfair.xoom.com:

        thu jul 08  vancouver, bc  thunderbird stadium  may 22 (main stage -
sarah mclachlan, sheryl crow, deborah cox, mya and luscious jackson. second
stage - bif naked, sixpence none the richer and beth orton.)
        fri jul 09  seattle, wa  the gorge  may 22 (main stage - sarah
mclachlan, sheryl crow, tba, mya and luscious jackson. second stage - bijou
phillips, sixpence none the richer and beth orton.)
        sat jul 10  seattle, wa  the gorge  may 22 (same as 7/9)
        sun jul 11  portland, or  civic stadium  may 22 (same as 7/9)
        tue jul 13  san francisco, ca  shoreline amphitheatre  may 23
        wed jul 14  san francisco, ca  shoreline amphitheatre  may 23
        fri jul 16  san diego, ca  coors amphitheatre  may 22
        sat jul 17  los angeles, ca  rose bowl  may 23
        sun jul 18  phoenix, az  desert sky pavillion  may 22
        tue jul 20  austin, tx  south park meadows  may 22
        wed jul 21  dallas, tx  starplex amphitheatre  may 22
        fri jul 23  atlanta, ga  lakewood  may 22
        sat jul 24  atlanta, ga  lakewood  may 22
        sun jul 25  nashville, tn  first american music center  may 22
        tue jul 27  charlotte, nc  blockbuster pavillion  may 22
        wed jul 28  columbia, md  merriweather post pavillion  may 22
        fri jul 30  philadelphia, pa  entertainment center  may 22
        sat jul 31  hershey, pa  hersheypark stadium  may 22
        sun aug 01  buffalo, ny  finger lakes performing arts centre  may 22

        tue aug 03  mansfield, ma  tweeter center  may 22
        wed aug 04  hartford, ct  the meadows  may 22
        fri aug 06  new york, ny  jones beach  may 08
        sat aug 07  holmdel, nj  pnc bank arts center  may 01
        sat aug 08  holmdel, nj  pnc bank arts center  may 01
        tue aug 10  columbus, oh  polaris amphitheatre  may 22
        wed aug 11  cincinnati, oh  riverbend amphitheatre  may 22
        fri aug 13  pittsburgh, pa  star lake amphitheatre  may 22
        sat aug 14  detroit, mi  pine knob  may 22
        sun aug 15  detroit, mi  pine knob  may 22
        tue aug 17  cleveland, oh  blossom music center  may 22
        wed aug 18  indianapolis, in  deer creek  may 15
        thu aug 19  chicago, il  the world  may 22
        sat aug 21  toronto, on  molson amphitheatre  may 22
        sun aug 22  toronto, on  molson amphitheatre  may 22
        tue aug 24  milwaukee, wi  marcus amphitheatre  may 22
        wed aug 25  minneapolis, mn  canterbury park  may 21
        thu aug 26  bonner springs, ks  sandstone amphitheatre  may 22
        sat aug 28  denver, co  fiddlers green amphitheatre  may 22
        sun aug 29  denver, co  fiddlers green amphitheatre  may 22
        tue aug 31  edmonton, ab  commonwealth stadium  may 22

> the pier  (in seattle)  lineup is officially announced and goes on sale
> thursday morning. below is the lineup from http://www.summernights.org/
>
> all the shows are general admission and you can definitely save money by
> buying them directly from one reel productions rather than ticketmaster.
>
> keb' mo' and susan tedeschi with kelly joe phelps saturday, june 26 / 7 pm
> nanci griffith and the seattle symphony friday, july 2 / 8 pm
> go-go's with berlin saturday, july 3 / 7 pm
> dance party at the pier, indigo swing with dj leslie $ sunday, july 4 / 8
> pm
> cowboy junkies with leo kottke saturday, july 10 / 7 pm
> the robert cray band featuring the memphis horns friday, july 16 / 7 pm
> kenny rogers saturday, july 17 / 8 pm
> chris isaak saturday, july 24 / 8 pm
> boz scaggs thursday, july 29 / 7 pm
> the allman brothers band friday, august 6 / 7 pm
> neville brothers and little feat saturday, august 7 / 7 pm
> peter frampton thursday, august 12 / 7 pm
> vonda shephard with colin james and the little big band friday, august 13
> / 8 pm
> earth, wind and fire thursday, august 19 / 7 pm
> lyle lovett and his large band friday, august 20 / 8 pm saturday, august
> 21 / 8 pm
> ziggy marley and the melody makers sunday, august 22 / 7 pm
>
>
>

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date:         tue, 27 apr 1999 13:29:30 -0400
reply-to:     "karen, the 'raging' feminist" <s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu>
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from:         "karen, the 'raging' feminist" <s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu>
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oh please tell me that someone booted this show?!?!?  i must hear the cold
beer, remote control song!  i just must!!!!!!!!

i have a list of stuff to trade, and even if you don't want anything that
i have, i could send a blank and a sase.  anything!  i must hear that
song!

:-) karen
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reply-to:     diana <diana128@yahoo.com>
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hey all -

i was eagerly anticipating the announcement of the
lilith fair dates and artists, so i ran to check the
web site when i heard it was up.  to my huge
disappointment, ig isn't even playing in the
north-east!  i am from ny and last year i saw them at
the jones beach theater and it was great!  i was just
wondering if anyone else was upset about this?  am i
going to have to go to toronto to see the girls?  i am
praying that they will secretly show up in a venue
semi-close to me.

well, sorry for the waste of bandwith, i am just
hoping there is someone out there who can relate...

-di

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there isn't even a good listing of artist for any of the ohio lillith shows.
i wanted the ig on the list. oh, well maybe they will come alone for an even
better show. by the way when is the new album due out? missy
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date: tuesday, april 27, 1999 6:13 pm
subject: ig and lilith dates


>hey all -
>
>i was eagerly anticipating the announcement of the
>lilith fair dates and artists, so i ran to check the
>web site when i heard it was up.  to my huge
>disappointment, ig isn't even playing in the
>north-east!  i am from ny and last year i saw them at
>the jones beach theater and it was great!  i was just
>wondering if anyone else was upset about this?  am i
>going to have to go to toronto to see the girls?  i am
>praying that they will secretly show up in a venue
>semi-close to me.
>
>well, sorry for the waste of bandwith, i am just
>hoping there is someone out there who can relate...
>
>-di
>
>
>
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subject:      re: nigc:  hotmail must die!!
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well i have it and it never excepts my password so i never get any mail from
it so i had my mail go to my yahoo account instead. at least i get it. missy
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date: tuesday, april 27, 1999 4:04 pm
subject: nigc: hotmail must die!!


>okay, don't think i'm losing my mind... (although you wouldn't be too far
>off if you did :) )
>
>does anyone else wish hotmail an early death??  for the past two days, it's
>been sending me messages--that i've already read and deleted--from last
>thursday.  then, today, i get a jumbled mess of *130* messages, some of
>which i've read, some of which i've never received, all of which are out of
>order and very confusing!!
>
>aaaagggghhhh!!!
>
>sorry to waste bandwidth for my personal email frustrations, but i just
>wanted to know if anyone else is suffering from the same problem, or if i'm
>all alone in my misery.
>
>thanks for listening to me rant! ;)
>
>awfully warm in hotmail hades,
>shannon
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>unknown
>
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>compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and
>tolerant of the weak and the strong. because someday in life you
>will have been all of these."       --george washington carver
>
>~**shannon**~
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date: thu, 29 apr 1999 13:01:02 +0000
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> to my huge
>disappointment, ig isn't even playing in the
>north-east!

what about ppl in belgium,holland or france...etc...?they are still waiting
for the girls......last time they played there was 1994......
what about those fans????????????

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>to my huge
>disappointment, ig isn't even playing in the
>north-east!

hey all up north, think about this, ok.  while the girls won't be there for
lilith fair they will be there for the newport folk festival which happens
to be during the time lilith fair is up there.  so it's not all that bad.
take care,
heather

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august 19. chicago.  well, tinley.  close enough. (;
ig's will be there.

so will i.  who's with me?
-mel w.

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hello all!

so i live by nyc and i decided to get my ass to the lilith fair press
conference this morning at irving plaza!  and low and behold, by dropping
that i was a member of this here fine list, i got in!!!

omg!!

so ig were not there, but there were many other fab women artists there to
chat with.  mya, bif naked, martina mcbride, deborah cox,  monica, kelly
wills, 2 of the dixie chicks, me'shell ndegocello, and beth orton were the
singers along with sarah who attended as well as  sheryl crow on the phone
from the road.  btw, you can see the whole web cast on the lilith site and
hear my question to the dixie chicks at around 16:40ish.  please check it out!

so i was very scared but felt that since i was there so i had to ask a
question.  i got up my nerve and asked the chicks if they were excited to be
on the same bill as the indigo girls.  they said that ig were their heroes.
they said that it was amazing to have played with them at the benefit in
tenn. last week.  they said that when you get to met folks you are in awe of
sometime they don't live up to the expectation you have of them. but they
said that ig were all that they had thought they would be. expect great banjo
jams and the chicks said that they know all the words to all the ig songs.
wow!  they are just like us! (i did, however, stuttered when asking my
question when i heard my voice coming out of the speakers!)

so that is it in a nut shell.  it does suck big time that the girls won't be
in the northeast, but lucky me i have a brother in boulder and close friends
in chicago.  so i guess i am in for a road trip this summer!

if you have any questions, feel free to email me.  i did take pictures and i
will post them on the web as soon as i get them developed.

woo hoo!  i am still in shock i scammed my way in!  also, they gave away free
copies of  both the new live cd's due out on may 18th. no you can't have it!
hehehehehehe

love to you all!

babs :-)

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does anybody know when will the tickets go on sale? particularly in the
mid-west area. thanks

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bear with me, friends -- did i miss something?  which dates and cities
(the latter being the most important) are the girls gonna be on?  maybe i
misread the post about lilith, but i couldn't find them!  could someone
be as kind as to clue me in?  this being the (possible) last year, i
can't miss it!  i had too much fun last year, sweating in the 120 degree
albequerque heat with 15,000 other people crammed into what felt like a
matchbook!  thanks, guys!

jules
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date:         tue, 27 apr 1999 13:17:02 -0400
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        hello.. i was hoping someone on the list could help me out and let
me know of a good place in atlanta to eat lunch.  my roommates and i are
coming from michigan and going to florida and have decieded to stop and
eat lunch in atlanta.  i heard something about "the flying biscuit cafe"
was owned by emily.  has anyone eaten there before?  is it good food?  or
coudl you suggest a place we could eat taht would be atlanta grassroots
kinda place.  thanks in advance, jules

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sorry for the cross posting but here are the lilith dates with ig dates
marked  i am kicking and screaming cuz no ig in san diego.  i finally am
in san diego to see lilith and no ig!!  so anyone in ca want to take a
road trip to denver?

hugs and hershey kisses~
luna

date  place    venue    day ticket go on sale
** mark shows with ig

             ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls...the 1999 lilith fair
dates.

thu jul 08  vancouver, bc     thunderbird stadium     may 22

fri jul 09 seattle, wa     the gorge     may 22

sat jul 10 seattle, wa     the gorge     may 22

sun jul 11  portland, or     civic stadium     may 22

tue jul 13 san francisco, ca     shoreline amphitheatre     may 23

wed jul 14  san francisco, ca     shoreline amphitheatre     may 23

fri jul 16 san diego, ca      coors amphitheatre      may 22

sat jul 17  los angeles, ca      rose bowl may     23

sun jul 18  phoenix, az     desert sky pavillion      may 22

tue jul 20 austin, tx      south park meadows     may 22

wed jul 21 dallas, tx     starplex amphitheatre     may 22

** fri jul 23 atlanta, ga     lakewood      may 22

**sat jul 24 atlanta, ga     lakewood may     22

sun jul 25  nashville, tn      first american music center     may 22

tue jul 27  charlotte, nc      blockbuster pavillion     may 22

wed jul 28 columbia, md     merriweather post pavillion     may 22

fri jul 30  philadelphia, pa      entertainment center      may 22

sat jul 31 hershey, pa     hersheypark stadium     may 22

sun aug 01 buffalo, ny      finger lakes performing arts centre     may
22

tue aug 03 mansfield, ma     tweeter center     may 22

wed aug 04 hartford, ct     the meadows     may 22

fri aug 06 new york, ny     jones beach     may 08

sat aug 07 holmdel, nj     pnc bank arts center     may 01

sat aug 08 holmdel, nj     pnc bank arts center     may 01

tue aug 10 columbus, oh     polaris amphitheatre     may 22

wed aug 11 cincinnati, oh     riverbend amphitheatre     may 22

fri aug 13 pittsburgh, pa     star lake amphitheatre     may 22

sat aug 14 detroit, mi     pine knob     may 22

sun aug 15 detroit, mi     pine knob     may 22

tue aug 17 cleveland, oh     blossom music center     may 22

wed aug 18 indianapolis, in     deer creek     may 15

**thu aug 19  chicago, il     the world     may 22

**sat aug 21 toronto, on     molson amphitheatre     may 22

**sun aug 22 toronto, on     molson amphitheatre     may 22

**tue aug 24 milwaukee, wi     marcus amphitheatre     may 22

**wed aug 25 minneapolis, mn     canterbury park     may 21

**thu aug 26 bonner springs, ks     sandstone amphitheatre     may 22

**sat aug 28 denver, co     fiddlers green amphitheatre     may 22

**sun aug 29  denver, co      fiddlers green amphitheatre     may 22

**tue aug 31 edmonton, ab     commonwealth stadium     may 22

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is there any new info on the newport festival with the girls?  this
will be my only chance to see them unless i can talk my friend into
driving to atlanta (not a bad idea...:)).  when do the tickets go on
sale?  any help would be greatly appreciated!!

thanks so much!!

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yeah baybeeeeeeeeee!

6 days before i leave for japan, ig is playin' in my hometown...
and dar's playin' the night before...
looks like i'll get to see both the girls and dar before i jet off to
japan!
life is sweet (and it would be sweeter if i didn't have all this studying
to do!)
:-) karen

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hey ya'll,  i need some help with the dates ig will be playing on the
lilith fair.  the lilith web site says the girls will be playing from july
20-24 ( at least thats what it looks like, maybe its the 23-24th ) , but
when i click on the dates for the austin and dallas shows, the ones i will
be attending ( yeah!!! ), it does not show them.  does anyone know whether
or not they will be there for sure?  is anyone going to these shows?
please let me know privately.


thank you,

jason lee

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hey guys and gals!!!!!!

when i joined this list, i only thought about getting more information about
the girls, then i found a wonderful place where people came together to
exchange ideas and thoughts inspired by our lovely goddesses.  then one of
the members contacted me through private email and this past week we spent
together getting to know each other in person.  kelly small and i have been
icq chat buddies for a long time and getting to meet someone from the list
was wonderful.....it amazes me to think that if the girls did not exist then
we would not have met, we would have wandered around not knowing what a
great friendship was like....and here we are now best friends and fans of
the most inspiring duo ever......you know, if two people can meet and find a
wonderful friendship through the girls, then what more can the music of
these girls do? makes me wonder if we all were to meet someday, what we
could do for the world together as one group........if i ever hit the
lottery i swear one of the first things i do, (besides quitting both of my
jobs and getting a new car), will be to arrange a meeting of all the ig list
members.....maybe even try to get the girls to come hmmm i think i need to
go buy a ticket....oh well had to share this you guys take care and
remember, we all have one common interest, the girls, but that is not the
only thing that we have in common with each other....

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
peace love and light

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even if it is only used to touch one shoulder in support
or love  it is our destiny to change the world in that way.....

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hey everybody! i just wanted to say thank you beccie!!!!  i had a wonderful
week with you and i sure hated to leave.  i miss you soooo much.  i just
can't imagine a world without amy & emily and all they have done for me, and
for all of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  thank you amy and emily!!!!
beccie wrote:
>hey guys and gals!!!!!!
>
>when i joined this list, i only thought about getting more information
about
>the girls, then i found a wonderful place where people came together to
>exchange ideas and thoughts inspired by our lovely goddesses.  then one of
>the members contacted me through private email and this past week we spent
>together getting to know each other in person.  kelly small and i have been
>icq chat buddies for a long time and getting to meet someone from the list
>was wonderful.....it amazes me to think that if the girls did not exist
then
>we would not have met, we would have wandered around not knowing what a
>great friendship was like....and here we are now best friends and fans of
>the most inspiring duo ever......you know, if two people can meet and find
a
>wonderful friendship through the girls, then what more can the music of
>these girls do? makes me wonder if we all were to meet someday, what we
>could do for the world together as one group........if i ever hit the
>lottery i swear one of the first things i do, (besides quitting both of my
>jobs and getting a new car), will be to arrange a meeting of all the ig
list
>members.....maybe even try to get the girls to come hmmm i think i need to
>go buy a ticket....oh well had to share this you guys take care and
>remember, we all have one common interest, the girls, but that is not the
>only thing that we have in common with each other....

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i would also like some info about this festival since
i *would* like to see the girls this summer. (ex.
location, dates, ticket info etc...)  also i was
wondering what this whole icg chat thing is. i have
heard a lot of people mention it lately.

thanks a lot!

-di

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sorry for the mistake - i meant icq...


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can some1 explain to me who mya is? she's playing at the gorge and so far, i
have no compelling reason to buy tix (well except sm).  there is one tba
spot so i can only hope (crossing fingers).  then again, my wonderful
lesbiwife said she'd take me to atlanta to see the girls....

maybe she'd settle for newport folk festival.

ryan blackhawke
owner - fremont hemp co
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> so ig were not there, but there were many other fab women artists there to
> chat with.  mya, bif naked, martina mcbride, deborah cox,  monica, kelly
> wills, 2 of the dixie chicks, me'shell ndegocello, and beth orton were the
> singers along with sarah who attended as well as  sheryl crow on the phone
> from the road.

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yo!

i called the nff offices today and they said may 12th will be when they will
give the official artist lists.  if you check on pollstar.com you can find a
little info.  a few artists and the dates for the weekend, but no ig listed
yet.

and they said tickets go on sale right away, like the 13th.  who knew!  if
you go to the nff web page they give a phone # and you can call them to
confirm what i just said just in case things have changed.

enjoy!

babs

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hi jules,

yes, the flying biscuit cafe is part-owned by emily saliers. but even more
important than that, it has fantastic food and wonderful ambience, imho!
then there is also the new part-owned-by-emily restaraunt, watershed. i
haven't been there, but all the reviews of it that i have seen say it is
good, if not a little expensive. flying biscuit is in candler park, down the
road from little five points, which is a very funky/fun part of town. and
watershed is in decatur. atlanta has lots of great restaraunts, but for the
life of me i can't come up with any of their names right now--it's been a
few years since i lived in atlanta. hope that helps.

peace, laura

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>me know of a good place in atlanta to eat lunch.

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danny verheezen wrote:

> what about ppl in belgium,holland or france...etc...?they are still waiting
> for the girls......last time they played there was 1994......
> what about those fans????????????

oh yeah?
oh yeah?
well, what about israel, huh?  i mean, to my knowledge, they've never played
here.

i mean, if we're already on a rant and all....
;)
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wear her hair in pigtails on her 25th birthday which is may 8th (jilly - y'hear
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tired to write all those she loves on the net, so consider this an apology for
now....  peace and a good night's sleep, y'all....

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i am soooooooo excited!!! anyone going in phoenix az??? contact me!
~nichtori~

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subject: lilith dates (long)


>sorry for the cross posting but here are the lilith dates with ig dates
>marked  i am kicking and screaming cuz no ig in san diego.  i finally am
>in san diego to see lilith and no ig!!  so anyone in ca want to take a
>road trip to denver?
>
>hugs and hershey kisses~
>luna
>
>date  place    venue    day ticket go on sale
>** mark shows with ig
>
>             ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls...the 1999 lilith fair
>dates.
>
>thu jul 08  vancouver, bc     thunderbird stadium     may 22
>
> fri jul 09 seattle, wa     the gorge     may 22
>
>sat jul 10 seattle, wa     the gorge     may 22
>
>sun jul 11  portland, or     civic stadium     may 22
>
>tue jul 13 san francisco, ca     shoreline amphitheatre     may 23
>
>wed jul 14  san francisco, ca     shoreline amphitheatre     may 23
>
> fri jul 16 san diego, ca      coors amphitheatre      may 22
>
> sat jul 17  los angeles, ca      rose bowl may     23
>
>sun jul 18  phoenix, az     desert sky pavillion      may 22
>
>tue jul 20 austin, tx      south park meadows     may 22
>
>wed jul 21 dallas, tx     starplex amphitheatre     may 22
>
>** fri jul 23 atlanta, ga     lakewood      may 22
>
>**sat jul 24 atlanta, ga     lakewood may     22
>
>sun jul 25  nashville, tn      first american music center     may 22
>
>tue jul 27  charlotte, nc      blockbuster pavillion     may 22
>
>wed jul 28 columbia, md     merriweather post pavillion     may 22
>
>fri jul 30  philadelphia, pa      entertainment center      may 22
>
>sat jul 31 hershey, pa     hersheypark stadium     may 22
>
>sun aug 01 buffalo, ny      finger lakes performing arts centre     may
>22
>
>tue aug 03 mansfield, ma     tweeter center     may 22
>
>wed aug 04 hartford, ct     the meadows     may 22
>
>fri aug 06 new york, ny     jones beach     may 08
>
>sat aug 07 holmdel, nj     pnc bank arts center     may 01
>
>sat aug 08 holmdel, nj     pnc bank arts center     may 01
>
>tue aug 10 columbus, oh     polaris amphitheatre     may 22
>
>wed aug 11 cincinnati, oh     riverbend amphitheatre     may 22
>
>fri aug 13 pittsburgh, pa     star lake amphitheatre     may 22
>
>sat aug 14 detroit, mi     pine knob     may 22
>
>sun aug 15 detroit, mi     pine knob     may 22
>
>tue aug 17 cleveland, oh     blossom music center     may 22
>
>wed aug 18 indianapolis, in     deer creek     may 15
>
>**thu aug 19  chicago, il     the world     may 22
>
>**sat aug 21 toronto, on     molson amphitheatre     may 22
>
>**sun aug 22 toronto, on     molson amphitheatre     may 22
>
>**tue aug 24 milwaukee, wi     marcus amphitheatre     may 22
>
>**wed aug 25 minneapolis, mn     canterbury park     may 21
>
>**thu aug 26 bonner springs, ks     sandstone amphitheatre     may 22
>
>**sat aug 28 denver, co     fiddlers green amphitheatre     may 22
>
>**sun aug 29  denver, co      fiddlers green amphitheatre     may 22
>
>**tue aug 31 edmonton, ab     commonwealth stadium     may 22
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date:         wed, 28 apr 1999 02:03:44 -0500
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hey!  good news of course for the midwest!  looks like it'll be an ig
summer for us.  for those who ig will not be visiting during lilith--you
are welcome to stay at my place in chicago so as to see the girls.  and for
real die hards--milwaukee is just 75 miles north and just a few days later.
finally ig has prioritized correctly!  :p  don't worry new
englanders-they'll probably follow with 8 or 9 dates at every college in
massachusetts.  so newport and two liliths--i suppose that'll equal on full
setlist of ig.  i'll take it.  see y'all this summer.  for those i haven't
written in forever--i'm moving so bear with me please.  later

greg

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date:         wed, 28 apr 1999 09:21:38 -0400
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subject:      re: atlanta...
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hi,
i have been to both the flying biscuit and the watershed.  both of them had
excellent food and atmosphere.  the watershed is expensive, mostly gourmet
sandwhiches, fruit, salads, wine, etc...it is in decatur.  flying biscuit is
resonable.

laura jackson wrote:

> hi jules,
>
> yes, the flying biscuit cafe is part-owned by emily saliers. but even more
> important than that, it has fantastic food and wonderful ambience, imho!
> then there is also the new part-owned-by-emily restaraunt, watershed. i
> haven't been there, but all the reviews of it that i have seen say it is
> good, if not a little expensive. flying biscuit is in candler park, down the
> road from little five points, which is a very funky/fun part of town. and
> watershed is in decatur. atlanta has lots of great restaraunts, but for the
> life of me i can't come up with any of their names right now--it's been a
> few years since i lived in atlanta. hope that helps.
>
> peace, laura
>
> -
>
> >        hello.. i was hoping someone on the list could help me out and let
> >me know of a good place in atlanta to eat lunch.
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date:         wed, 28 apr 1999 08:53:33 -0500
reply-to:     sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu>
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i thought people might be interested in this entry from the daemon records
bulletin board:

daemon (amy included) has no problem with bootlegs
etc. as long as they are not being sold for profit.

everyone is more than welcome to use this board
to find them too. we just wish you wouldn't
buy them...enough said.

peace,
the lady
(andrea white, label manager)
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sheryl jones
sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu
cooper seay page:
http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/3349/cooper/cooper.htm
bootleg page: http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/3349/boots.htm

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date:         wed, 28 apr 1999 10:00:22 edt
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talk about disappointment..in my area lilith and the newport folk festival
are on the same weekend...now that 's having to choose..i go where a+e be :)

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date:         wed, 28 apr 1999 16:18:17 +0200
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>talk about disappointment..in my area lilith and the newport folk festival
>are on the same weekend...now that 's having to choose..i go >where a+e be
:)

excuse me??????you call that dissapointment????
we in europe are waiting a lifetime to see ig and you some of you are
complaining because you don't see them every year......
duh............................

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date:         wed, 28 apr 1999 14:00:37 edt
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uuuuh....hey sue ?
i accidentally deleted your email addy.
i need to harass you ;) juust kidding.
anyhoo....can you contact me ?

back to ig world we go.
bye
:)
claire

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date:         wed, 28 apr 1999 11:50:42 pdt
reply-to:     diane wong <arle@hotmail.com>
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hi fortunate ones!

by now, you've figured out i love posting ig moments--being a newbie
ig fan (1 year).

anyway, on monday, i was driving in down broadway in glendale, ca (i
thought i posted this, but i never saw it in my email in-box), and i
heard vonda/emily's duet "baby, don't you break my heart slow"(lyrics
below) on the radio, on 102.7 kiis fm (l.a.).(i never hear ig on this
top 40 station.)  i was sooo excited, and rolled down my windows and
blasted it!

then on tuesday, i enjoyed my free ice cream cone from ben and
jerry's(did anyone get some?), and watched the ally mcbeal episode
that had the duet on it.  it was in the closing two scenes, and they
cut off the song at emily's part (ack!) but then to the second chorus
where i heard emily in the background ("than lie").  okay, that's an
itsy bitsy ig on tv moment.  i was so excited to hear about the lilith
fair dates that day also.  esp. the igc ones.

hey babs, great story about getting into the lf media announcement!
you are so crazy!

lyrics from: baby, don't you break my heart slow, by vonda shepard &
james newton howard (<--excellent musician, see soundtrack to "dying
young)
reprinted w/o permission, and not intended to distribute for profit.
(*-emily sings these words.)

i like the way you wanted me
every night for so long baby
i like the way you needed me
every time things got rocky

i was believing in you
was i mistaken,
do you say, do you say what you mean
i want our love to last forever

but i'd rather you be mean than love and lie
i'd rather hear the truth and have to say goodbye
i'd rather take a blow at least then i would know
but baby don't you break my heart slow

*i like the way you'd hold me
*every night for so long baby
*and like the way you'd say my name
*in the middle of the night
*while you were sleeping

*i was believing in you
*was i mistaken
*do you mean, do you mean what you say?
*when you say our love could last forever

but i'd rather you be mean than love and lie
i'd rather here the truth and have to say goodbye
i'd rather take a blow at least then i would know
but baby don't you break my heart slow

bridge:
you would run around and lead me on forever
*while i wait at home still thinking that we're together
i wanted our love to last forever (emily doing harmony rest of song)

repeat chorus

kind of makes you appreciate amy and emily's poetry.  i'm so spoiled!

ig love and smiles, diane


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emily sings the chorus and vonda does background vocals on the second
chorus. (oops).  diane


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as i said i would:  i'm finishing the review of _smallternative_, a
compilation tape of original songs written by and performed by listees from
this list...the big list.  the mixer of the tape is about to "tree" it out
for those who want copies.

and as i said before again....side b is better in my book than side a.  of
course i do love sarah's song "the finer side," which is on side a.

but, this is about side b.

wendall lee:  this song "evening" reminds me of old paul simon's stuff.  i
remember when i found my parents' old records and put the needle on p. simon
and a. garfunkel....i would waste hours just sitting there listening, on my
back in my room on my bed....listening....  so, this song is just like that.
soft voice like simon's.  my favorite part of this song is the
chorus..."drowning in your inconsistancy is me."  hey! the end even sounds
like paul simon!

stacey aldridge:  wow!  stacey, i love your writing!  she says that this
song, "the whole world watching," is about her ex, and all i can say is that
must have been a woeful relationship....what ex relationship isn't?  anyway,
when i listened to this for the first time, i rewound it and played it over
and over again.  i can sense her pride and sadness from her voice!   also,
stacey has a great voice.  i really think that if she kept on writing and
playing and singing that she'd easily become a favorite.  she's got other
songs, though, and this song has my interest.

anna cretch:  after i said that her spoken word piece on side a reminded me
of all of the questions i ask myself when i used to ....well, smoke stuff..i
think it's important to say that doesn't mean that anna smokes...stuff.  she
doesn't.  i don't...
she does have a mind full of good questions, and her writing prooves it.
anyway, this 2nd piece of hers, "a heart full," is a great piece.  her chorus
to this song is insightful.  listen to it if you can to see what i mean.

chee hill:  this cover of jim croce's, "walkin' back to georgia" is bad.  if
you have this tape, put a piece of scotch tape over the hole and record over
this song!!!!!!!  do it now!!!!   if jim croce, or my dad for that matter who
was big fan of jim croce, were alive today, they'd probably point to the
finger at me and yell, "poser!!!!!!!!"

shelley miller:  this is "the pea song"  i swear i hear that freakin' ceiling
fan in the background!  it's so cool.  anyway, this song really lets
shelley's voice come through.  i want these lyrics b/c i know i can't hear
the entire words and also i know that this song is deep.

tim baldwin:  tim is a greg brown fan...i can tell.  this song lets me wander
into my thoughts of drinkin' about problems that we all have once in a
while...when we think about someone and think we're in love with them when we
shouldn't be b/c of another lover or the societal influences.  we then try
our best to forget about it, but then we notice that gut-wrenching pain when
you wake up or when you're away from that special person...that's when you
know you're in love, folks!!!!  that's why we're put on this earth...to love.
tim sings about this...we all know it sucks, but we all go through it.
tim's a talented, very talented guy.  i'd love to meet him and jam with him.

kathrin siegmund:  "still wondering" is a typical folk song about lost love,
but it's not too typical b/c it's got some turns and twists.  "i don't know
who you saw, touched or kissed.  but if it was me, there're must have been
something i have missed...."  this writing is great.  this is one of my
favorites on this tape.

tara lane:  from the band, in clover, tara sings about going the distance and
pondering decisions: "home (insulation song)".  she reminds me of the
cranberries so much.  this song has been performed in a studio.  it's
polished.

michal rogson:  michal's got two songs here back-to-back.  first one is
"time's fool."  this is a jam song..should be played at a campfire with at
least 4 people.  and yes, if you play with fire, you're bound to get
burned...but, michel sings here that "we're all sparks (of fire) in the
sky..."  her second song is wise and full of love.  it's about her brown eyes
and her lover's blue eyes.  combine them and you got what????  the earth!
i'm guessing that michal is the foundation in her romantic relationship, and
her lover with blue eyes is flighty and always in the clouds and sky???


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okay, that's it.  this tape is awesome.  i love it.  of course i listen to my
stuff and rush to push ">>".  but, i'm not a muscian...it's a hobby.  hobbies
are great, though!!!

(((((((((((('til i see some of y'all this summer out and about touring and
road-tripping, ciao!  keep on playing and sining and writing! )))))))))))))

-chee

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s!!!!!

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date:         wed, 28 apr 1999 13:58:08 -0700
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dear all:

i would like to throw out an idea & pls dont all blast me at once.....

how about we select a day in the not-too-distant future and forbid "nigc"
for one 24 hr period.

additionally, for that one day, we come up with creative & respectful ways
of discussing ig.

i leave it to the list to deem (sp?) if this is worthy or not and, if so,
how to implement.

thanks!

melissa

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