lifeblood: listlogs: 1999-05c


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date:         sat, 15 may 1999 00:26:24 edt
reply-to:     flg940bigr@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "freida l. garigin" <flg940bigr@aol.com>
subject:      re: eeeeeeee
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in a message dated 5/14/99 12:06:38 am central daylight time,
chickenwomyn@hotmail.com writes:

<< it never occurred to me to go to the library to find some of the tributes
and compilations ig is on to find their sonds til today.... >>

now, this is a really good idea.  let's put together a list of songs on other
artists' recordings that our girls are on.  ok, i'll admit it.  i'm really
asking that someone do this for me.  i'll put the list together if y'all will
send me the info.  i don't really do a lot of cruising around for this sort
of thing, and i haven't a clue how to do it otherwise.  so, just e-mail me
with all the songs you know, include the artists and release titles (duh) and
i'll put together a list to post.  then we will all know who ig have been
singing with.  or at least i'd know,  y'all probably already know.
freida.

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date:         sat, 15 may 1999 01:26:16 edt
reply-to:     flg940bigr@aol.com
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from:         "freida l. garigin" <flg940bigr@aol.com>
subject:      ig on other artists' songs
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sorry to the list member who tried to im me.   i'm a computer idiot and i get
all flustered if things come at me too fast.  e-mail me the info, the
artists, song titles and the title of the release and i'll put them together
in a list.  thanks.
freida.

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date:         sat, 15 may 1999 01:38:46 edt
reply-to:     jami klein <jamik@juno.com>
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from:         jami klein <jamik@juno.com>
subject:      cat power/beth orton
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hi all.  just a quick recommendation.....
those of you who like cat power may also like beth orton.
they both are amazing, & their sounds are quite similar.
you can ghar live clips at www.cdnow.com.
check 'em out.

j
-go kitty people!

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date:         sat, 15 may 1999 10:24:16 -0400
reply-to:     neil <neily@netreach.net>
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from:         neil <neily@netreach.net>
subject:      absolutely fatuous...
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hey.

now it's not usually in my nature to care, but still:

on vh1's behind the music videos, when they feature the b-52s 'love shack'
there's an, ooh, one or two second clip of a&em. ('cause of the sara lee
connection, see??)

get those vcrs a-ready...

@}--,--'---

http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/home.htm
currently in neil's cd players, and thus highly reccomended:
jimmy webb - 'ten easy pieces'; nick drake - 'way to blue'; brian wilson -
'imagination'; ray charles - 'genius + soul' disc one; joan baez - 'gone
>from danger'

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date:         sat, 15 may 1999 12:43:01 -0500
reply-to:     tig-o-rama <dragonjen@spydee.net>
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from:         tig-o-rama <dragonjen@spydee.net>
subject:      renaissance faire goers??? (nigc, nmec)
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hi everyone!  i am doing a project for my medieval conquest and the crusades class, and it's going to be the homepage of a crusader.... if any of you (and i know there have to be some of you) go to renaissance faires or are involved in the sca, and have any pictures you would be willing to share, i would very much appreciate it, and i would be more than happy to credit your submissions and let you see the finished project.  i need these very soon though - the term is only six weeks long, so i'm getting started on the site today.

thanks in advance to everyone and apologies for the nigc/nmec use of bandwidth.

~~jennifer
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the result is vertigo."
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date:         fri, 14 may 1999 19:43:33 -0500
reply-to:     tony at mendina <mendina@utdallas.edu>
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from:         tony at mendina <tony.at.mendina@netspace.org>
organization: tony at mendina
subject:      help: need  mp3 setlists fast!
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does anyone have the setlists for the 9th ig mp3 download offer? i'm not looking
for the server info, but rather for the list of track order, date, and place
for club r & r and blue flood mysteries.

my cd drive is refusing to read the disk where i put all that stuff--it'll
read every other disk i ever made but this one. grr.

anyway, your help is appreciated!

tony


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date:         sat, 15 may 1999 20:40:21 -0500
reply-to:     jen mek <jmek@earthlink.net>
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from:         jen mek <jmek@earthlink.net>
subject:      that song that emily sings in
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hey y'all.  i've saw that vonda shepard (?) [aka the ally mcbeal singer] cd
in target today and noticed that song that emily sings w/ her.  does anyone
have a url where i can hear that song? i don't want to buy the whole cd
just for that one song.

thanks,
- jen mek

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date:         sun, 16 may 1999 11:01:50 edt
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from:         kathleen mccrea <sissookie@aol.com>
subject:      yet another show...
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hey everyone..

if you at all interested.. there is another chance to catch a 100% pure ig
show before newport.

waterloo villiage in stanhope, nj august 6.. what a great warmup for newport..

peace..
kathleen

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date:         sun, 16 may 1999 15:09:40 -0500
reply-to:     "lisa m. schreihart" <lschreihart@juno.com>
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from:         "lisa m. schreihart" <lschreihart@juno.com>
subject:      interest in ani or ig poster? (last post)
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hi everyone,

this is my second and last posting about this to both the
ani and ig lists.  i need to gauge your (the fans')
intesest in purchasing a very unique, potentially valuable
poster of ani and/or indigo girls.  here's
the deal.....

the world-famous artist who painted the wonderful rock
posters found at the following site:

http://visualgallery.com/masse/masindex.html

is interested in painting ani and indigo girls for two separate
posters.  these posters would only be created if there is
enough interest in them, and if ani and ig approve of the
projects.  note that the artist needs a specific amount of
interest in a project before he starts it since he puts a lot of
time, effort, and money into painting a poster and then creating
numbered and signed prints.   he's a very busy guy who
happens to want to do these projects.  if you'd support either or
both of the projects, we would love to know about it now.

cost would be approximately $30 for each poster, the usual price
for his posters.  note that: (1) many of his posters have become
very valuable collector's items, and (2) a portion of the proceeds
might go to a charitable organization of ani's/ig's or their fans'
choosing.  (such charitable projects have been done in the past
with the sales of his posters; for an ani or ig poster, this would
be determined once the project is underway.)

the company who helps the artist sell his posters has asked
me to gauge your interest in these projects.  all sales would be
through the company...none via this list.  also, if there appears
to be enough support, a company representative will contact
rbr/ani and ig/rcam to seek approval for the projects.   they
told me the projects would not happen without approval.

information from the company about the posters:

> the posters would be approx 14" x 26" (standard concert
> poster size). they would be printed on thick poster paper and
> would be designed completely freehand using ink and various
> media like paint and pastels, but no computers (the artist works
> purely freehand).  bob's art is world famous and is collected all
> over the world.  for him to choose to do ani/ig is very cool
> considering he only does about 6 posters a year, as they
> take him 2 months each to do.

if you are interested in either of the posters (which you'd
be able to see on the internet once they are complete, and you'd
be able to order using check, money order, or credit card
directly from the artists' sales company), please reply
to me (lschreihart@juno.com) as follows:

in the subject line of the message, write "ani poster" or  "ig poster"
or "both ani and ig posters".  in the body of the message, write only
"i am interested."  if you express your interest, you are under
absolutely no obligation to purchase anything...this is only to
gauge the amount of interest out there.   if you've already
responded to me, please do not respond again.

thanks!  i'm posting this because i am interested.  the
only way i'll be able to order these posters is if many other
people are interested too.

lisa


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date:         sun, 16 may 1999 18:47:41 edt
reply-to:     guinione@aol.com
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subject:      newport ff
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have tix gone on sale yet for newport folk fest ?????

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date:         sun, 16 may 1999 18:48:33 edt
reply-to:     guinione@aol.com
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subject:      nigc: philly pride
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does anyone know what date philly pride will be held on this year and if it
will still be at penn's landing ?????

thanks

chris

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date:         sun, 16 may 1999 19:25:38 -0400
reply-to:     elaine bean <efbean@erols.com>
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subject:      newport ff
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>have tix gone on sale yet for newport folk fest ?????

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you can purchase them thru their page

http://www.newportfolk.com/

elaine

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hi.  does anyone have venue info for the waterloo village
in stanhope, nj?  i can't find a seating chart anywhere.
thanks!

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hey..

i was going to post about this before the weekend, but my server went down
(yet again!).  the ig show at spac does not go on sale on may 22nd.  that
is when the tix go on sale for the july shows.  i don't think spac has
released a date yet for the august shows.

the confusion may only be in my head, but i thought i'd clear that up
anyway. (for myself, if for no one else)

kelly,
kind of excited because indigenous is also going to be at spac that month

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does anyone have venue info for the waterloo village in stanhope, nj?
>>>>>>

i saw a horde festival there a few years ago - and it was all general
admission seating.  but i just started to buy tix's on tm for the ig show to
see what seats there are - and there are reserved seating and general
admission seating at two different prices.  and when you ask for reserved
tix's it does give you an actual seat number.  (although at the timmon's
arena show 1 year ago it was ga but each tix still gave you a section &
seat)

anyway, can't find any info about a seating chart thru tm or waterloo's
website.  i did call the info number below but no one's there yet.  so
basically, i didn't tell ya anything new - but that's ok - you have to read
everything that i write <hehe> <insidious laughter>

www.waterloovillage.org

for further information call or write:
waterloo foundation for the arts, inc.
525 waterloo road
stanhope, nj 07874-3466
(973) 347-0900

8-)
mkc
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at 06:47 pm 5/16/99 -0400, you wrote:
>have tix gone on sale yet for newport folk fest ?????

yep.  i bought mine on thursday :)
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hey everyone...

one quick question--what's the url for the art that goes with neil's most
recent cdr offer?  i thought i had it written down, but alas, it was
deleted along with a bunch of other junk mail.

thanks in advance,

kelly

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hi everyone!

i was tipped off from the daemon newsletter, but there are finally some new
notes from amy at the daemon site!  it's pretty long, but really
interesting, as they're journal entries from amy's recent trip to cuba.
there are also some photos too which are at the site:

http://www.daemonrecords.com/beta/about/about.html

in march of 1999, the indigo girls were invited to participate in a
song-writing workshop and cultural exchange program in havana, cuba, called
music bridges. this program hopes to transcend political barriers through
art. although we were specifically instructed to approach this journey with
an apolitical attitude, i could not help but see the trip as an opportunity
to look deeper into the effects of u.s. policies in cuba. i found that it is
not possible to be in cuba as a u.s. citizen and not acknowledge the
political implications of. these are some of my observations and are not
intended to reflect or encompass all of cuba or it's political situation.
although i had a full experience, it was actually very limited by time and
geography. i was only in cuba for a week and did not travel outside of
havana. i encourage everyone to discover cuba for themselves and to learn
more about u.s. cuba relations.


    3-21-99

met at miami international. we were picked up at our arrival gate and
shuttled to a special holding area to wait for our charter. our bags were
retrieved and put on the plane-i didn't have to lift a hand...hmmm. the
escalator down to our gate was guarded by the police, i am not sure at this
point who or what they were guarding. the first faces i saw were gladys
knight and bonnie raitt. me'shell ndegeocello is here as well as pete buck
and a seemingly endless list spanning musical genres, ages, and color. (burt
bacharach arrived later. he seemed like a nice enough guy and, as we all
know, he is the king of bird chattering pop, but when he wasn't floating
around havana on a yacht, he was going two hours over on studio time.) the
host of the tour-alan roy scott-gave a speech explaining that this is the
first trip to cuba of its kind and that we should behave ourselves and not
be snotty american tourists demanding our way-we are to be good ambassadors.
he failed to warn us against the "we are the world syndrome" and the trap of
"american self importance." the two guys seated behind me on the bus to
havana failed the good ambassador test and made bigoted comments the whole
way into town.

there are two currencies in cuba-the cuban peso and the u.s. dollar. i guess
this is one way to get u.s. trade without actually trading. evidently there
were so many dollars coming though that they had to start recognizing them.
the u.s. embargo is absolutely absurd. the resulting two currency system has
created a war time black-market and an economic apartheid. although the u.s.
is not the only source of technology and products, we have levied our
economic might against other countries and corporations who might trade with
cuba. my hero jesse helms created this famous set of oppressive rules in the
helms-burton act. we have all heard the stories of old american cars from
the pre-revolution 50's and 60's in need of parts and the unavailability of
certain american medicines, but the far reaching effects of the embargo seem
impossible to illustrate with any degree of graphic accuracy. there is a
profound lack of materialism in cuba and it is hard to suss out what is the
result of the embargo and what is the result of communism.

people outside of cuba have a tendency to either demonize or romanticize
cuba (i am certainly guilty of the latter), but most cubans i talked to
simultaneously spoke of their love and hate of the system, leaving me in a
constant state of confusion. cuba is a country of extremes. the positive
extreme is represented by super-high literacy rates, free and equal access
to food, clothing, shelter, education, and health care, and a strong sense
of community and culture; the negative is represented by repressive rules
(especially in times of economic hardship such as these-havana is literally
crumbling down), a ruling elite class (what's new), and lack of capitalist
competition creates a certain blandness in some areas such as the service
industries. cuba's poverty is not necessarily a result of communism. i will
always romanticize the revolution-the "peasant rebellion"-and i got goose
skin when i saw the monument to jose marti and the big metal sculpture of
che gueverra's profile. while the heart of the revolution is beautiful and
noble, i seek to humanize this place in my own mind.

the hotel nacional, where we are staying, is a beautiful art deco structure
that was built by americans before the revolution. in its heyday, it was
bustling with celebrities and world leaders. it is still the fanciest in
havana but there's no way they could recapture the pre-revolution glamour,
simply because cuba is so poor. the malecon, which runs beside the ocean in
front of the motel plays host to late night strollers and lovers. the
florida keys are only 90 miles away, but it might as well be another world.
to think that a country can be so close and so off limits...who are we to
say how they should run their country? what are we so afraid of? i wonder if
we have to wait until the cold war generation passes to be rid of this
paranoia. when i look outside my window, the old american cars give me a
sense of being frozen in time; but then i remember that it isn't nostalgia
that keeps things this way.


3-22-99

this morning we had the song-writing lottery. we put all the cuban names in
one hat and all the non-cuban names in the other. at first the non-cuban hat
was called the american hat (which seemed perfectly typical for
self-centered americans). the director drew two names out of each hat to
designate the first writing groups. each group is to write and record at
least one song over the next two days. the oddest thing happened...emily and
i were chosen together. i didn't know if it was a set up or what but i
gladly accepted it as a gift, the reality being that emily and i don't ever
actually write together. at first we were put with this guy named equis
(x)-a rap artist-but he traded off with someone so he could be with
me'shell. at first my feelings were bruised and i was disappointed because i
liked the idea of working with a rapper, but i realized that he is a big fan
of hers and felt okay about it. the two cubans in our group ended up being
luis de la cruz and yosvany terry. they are both very talented. all of the
cuban musicians who are participating are the cream of the crop of cuba. i
will say, though, that the cuban side was sorely lacking in women. if it
weren't for the diligence of jeff cohen, a songwriter from bmi who invited
most of the women (among them joan osborne, lisa loeb, and us), the
non-cuban female contingent would be lacking as well. in the end there were
more male than female lead players on both sides.

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chiapas, mexico, where he came to my rescue and acted as a translator.
giacomo was also in great demand at our writing sessions in cuba. luis
doesn't speak english and my spanish stinks! when luis first came into my
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room, we were the only two there ; we just started playing because we
couldn't speak to each other. well, its sort of true about music being a
universal language...of course this only goes so far with me and cuban
music...i could barely keep up. emily's arrival helped a lot. she seems to
understand the structure of this music pretty well. we ended up working on a
blues/rock/cuban style song. luis is kind of "street" and a rocker. yosvany,
a virtuoso of many instruments, showed up late and we were well into the
song, but his arrival helped us to settle on a structure. the idea is to
each write our own verse and put it all together tomorrow.

some say that the hotel is bugged and that there are cameras everywhere, so
the cubans seem very careful about what they say and do. many of the
musicians seemed uncomfortable with political questions. no system of
government is good unless people are free to speak uncensored.

i ran today by the ocean towards old havana. all the magnificent spanish
colonial buildings are falling down into dust and there is no money to fix
them. some of the more tourist-oriented sections of old havana are being
propped up, but the amount of rebuilding that needs to be done is beyond
comprehension. the emissions from polluting cars along with the unchecked
industrial smog really take getting used to. i felt sick to my stomach after
every run-like a hot august day on the los angeles freeway. i would love to
see the cuban mountains and countryside.

when walking around havana i get the sense of fidel desperately trying to
hold on to his vision, becoming more like a dictator and scared of losing
control of his people who are holding on by the skin of their teeth. the
cuban spirit is unmatched. they have education and culture but also have
their freedom constantly challenged. to remain true to a vision of community
pride and involvement, this is a trick for anyone. luis, my collaborating
partner says that in truth, he wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

tonight i am tired and disoriented but i am pledging to get out and see more
tomorrow. i have got to learn to speak spanish...the language barrier really
wears me down.


  lazaro and el negro perform in the common are of the santeria commuinity
  3-23-99
i am not sleeping much at night.
i went running by the ocean again today on the smog infested malecon. i saw
lots of school kids (mostly boys) wearing skimpy bathing suits, playing a
sort of game that involved diving off the wall as the waves washed in. most
of the kids i see here are very lean, but in an athletic way rather than a
malnourished way. of course, one does get the feeling after being here a few
days that food is pretty scarce.

while i was running many guys would make cat-calls and say things in spanish
to me. my inability to understand the language made it hard to know how to
react but my general feeling is that this is some universal rudeness on the
part of the male species. it's hard to be a woman in a foreign country;
sexual context is always the lowest common denominator. giacomo says that it
is "the latin way"...we often discuss this issue of cross cultural
oppression. the men over here say that the women love it....hmmm...that's
what they say in the states, too. i have also been told that the lack of
sexual boundaries is due to the heat. i understood some of this as we jammed
earlier tonight in luis's band rehearsal space. emily and i with a bunch of
sweaty shirtless guys packed into a small room, making music. i felt the
allure and infectiousness of cuban culture-the african rhythms and the
spanish melodies. i felt the erotic energy as the percussion section rose to
a climax, everyone was dancing and all ideas of self seemed to escape us. we
worked on a song of mine just for fun called "compromise." it took on this
cuban-punk vibe that we all were digging. the other song that we are writing
together is coming along , but luis is the only one who has finished his
lyrics.

the rehearsal space that we used today (which is very nice) is provided by
the state for luis's band-bolsa negra. it seems that musicians are supplied
with some basic needs and extensive training but in return they play for
next to nothing (luis makes $5 for a show). we met two guys who are with
some sort of ministry that is in charge of producing shows for the state.
they seemed to hang around the rehearsal space making sure that the bands
have what they need. the musical/recording equipment used in cuba is mostly
substandard and very limited. nice instruments are appreciated and coveted
in a way that american rock stars can't understand. luis did not own an
acoustic guitar, yosvany did not own a keyboard.

musicians and artists are treated relatively well in cuba. my theory is the
"fidel's coffee theory"-everyone in cuba drinks coffee one way and it's
probably the same way that fidel drinks his. it's a metaphor for the
material side of life in cuba, which is mostly bland, minimal, and
non-experimental. cubans express their individualism through art, music, and
sports. the culture here is so deep and so revered-your art reflects who you
are and takes on more significance and respect in this environment as
opposed to the commercialism that co-opts music in a more materialistic
(read: capitalist) setting.

3-24-99
we had a new lottery today. it was sad to leave our dynamic duo-luis and
yosvany terry-behind, but we all felt that it would be in the spirit of
things to throw our names back into the pool. emily was paired with ray
guerra and one of the lowenstein twins. ray is a true virtuoso on the guitar
and has played with such latin american greats as silvio rodriguez. i ended
up with four collaborators-fernando bequer, harold payne (nice guy, speaks
great spanish), gary burr, and alfonso (i didn't catch his last name). gary
and harold are from a very different school of song-writing then i am. they
also seem more familiar with the process of collaboration. fernando struck
me the most with his eccentric punkesque/avant-garde cuban music. he was
also likely to go into a vintage 50's cuban/american nightclub vocal
style-imitating the las vegas greats that, in turn, imitated his forebears.
fernando was not as animated during our session but at the end we abandoned
our song to listen to him play.

i find writing with others to be hard. lyrics often end up being clichéd.
the subject matter of this team's particular song was a love affair between
a cuban and an american, and the ocean that separates the two (everyone
wrote about the damn ocean...jeez ...even me...). the song was a little too
"straight " for me which was partly my fault since i had to be late for the
session. in the midst of the session, some sexist remarks were made ("i like
to try the word bitch after every line to see if its a good line," said
gary) and our group would of been better off without them. but my
introduction to fernando becquer made this session a worthwhile experience.

before our rehearsal session, documentary film-maker haskell wexler and
musicologist/documentor greg landau took me and emily to a house of santeria
in old havana. they were hoping to show some of the culture outside of the
walls of the hotel nacional. i can't say enough good things about these two
radical documentarians. greg was influenced by his father-saul landau,
another film maker-and has spent most of his life helping to illuminate the
obscure folk traditions and music from places of political upheaval and
disenfranchisement. he speaks fluent spanish and has spent a lot of time in
cuba. he also spoke a little about his experiences in nicaragua working with
a sandinista band. his work is very important, he rescues songs and rhythms
from obscurity, much the way that alan lomax did, but he also fights the
good fight. haskell is an older gentleman who came up through the activism
of labor politics, opposing mccarthyism, civil rights, etc. he is
reminiscent of pete seeger-handsome and distinguished, with a lot of
charisma and style.

the house we went to is in the old slave quarters of havana. greg's wife had
lived with the families we visited, so they were actually all friends with
greg. the homes are like a maze of connected tunnels and rooms-like a little
secret neighborhood. you feel as if you are underground and in another
world. there is a open air common area where people are doing everything
from hair styling to laundry. i am assuming that most of the people in the
maze of rooms are participants in the santeria tradition. the "mother" of
the house, felicia, invited us in to visit. felicia said that her mother had
been a slave and had died with a brand on her leg. the tradition of santeria
came directly from africa. the religion focuses on the worship of yoruba
deities these deities represent forces of nature. the catholic saints became
attached to specific deities of santeria over time-a by-product of having to
disguise their religion. santeria people will tell you that catholicism
really has nothing to do with this faith-the saints/deities are not persons
but rather forces. it seems over time as the religion has become "legal" to
practice they have hung onto and become comfortable with some of the
hybridization of catholicism and santeria. felicia told a story: during the
time of slavery, when the practice of santeria was illegal, the people would
gather five stones and each stone would be possessed by a deity. they would
place the stones around a specific type of tree and dance. the master
believed the dance was for him, but it was really for the deities. this is
one way they would disguise their rituals-the self centered masters would
never guess that the music, rhythms, and dancing were all tied in with their
slave's faith .

this house is special for many reasons, one of them being the dance and
percussion that is taught here. two masters of drumming-pancho quinto and
octavio-live in this community. while they are not well known in the
mainstream world, drummers come from miles around to learn the traditions
from them. felicia has five sons and a daughter. all her sons play the drum,
i gathered her daughter was musical as well because you can't really
practice this tradition with out the music. we were shown a special african
(yoruba) drum called a bata . only men are allowed to play it because of the
spirit that is inside it. i asked felicia if women also had some special
privileges or responsibilities, but she wouldn't answer and kept evading my
question. however her daughter, santica, the resident feminist did wish to
talk about it. she said that women were really the ones in
charge...hmmm...i've heard that one before...buts its really the same old
story-the delicate balance between oppression and cultural tradition.


3-25-99
we went back to the santeria house the next day to hear the drummers. the
whole neighborhood gathered in the common area to dance and to listen while
pancho quinto's band played. they play music in a crazy combination of
rhumba, mexican, american folk, cuban, and african traditions. the singers,
lazardo and el negro, had a touch of lounge "camp" in their act . they were
dressed to the nines in leisurely clothes. all the songs were sung a
cappella to the drums. michael franti, of the group spearhead, did some rap
over the drum beats. it was nice to see the merging of traditions-or
reuniting might be a more accurate word for it. lazardo and el negro tried
to teach us to sing "cotton fields back home" in their style, but we
couldn't quite get it. i wanted to try some of our melodies and words over
their beats, but they didn't offer. either we failed the test or as women we
were assumed into a backseat role. michael has a strong connection with cuba
and he became sort of an ambassador from our group.

the band performed a song, written by santica (felicia's daughter), that the
whole neighborhood seemed to know (the song was about the black-market that
has gone on in their community the men trading in liquor, cigars, etc.) and
the police coming to get them. some of the lyrics were sung in slang to hide
the meaning of the song. the neighborhood was described as a "smoky cave."
santica wrote a verse or two about the men as "hustlers" which i guess
wasn't so flattering , so they censor them out when they sing it. even
though she wrote the song, santica did not sing a verse, but only joined in
on the choruses. there are so many occurrences and omissions that scream
sexism but once again its not in my cultural context.

my girlfriend jennifer and i hung around the artist market for awhile, where
we were approached by a cuban male prostitute/escort, called a jinetero. we
were looking lost and he came over and made some suggestions for places to
dine. he tried to hire himself out to us. as soon as i caught on that he
intended to accompany us the rest of the night i thanked him for his help
and informed him that we were on a private date. these cubans for hire are
very persistent and plentiful. given the right situation, i imagine an
escorted night could be fun. before he left us to our own devices he did
talk a bit about "his cuba." he didn't like the system at all and said that
he would like to get out where he could have something more to work towards.
he hated the idea of working all his life with nothing material to show for
it. i told him that a lot of impoverished americans feel this way too, and
when they get old they can sometimes fall through the cracks of our system
and have no institutions or family to take care of them. i guess the idea of
cuba is that the people all take care of each other in one way or another
and old people are respected. still there doesn't appear to be much outside
incentive to compete or rise above in your career unless its an artistic
profession. there is obvious natural competition in both sports and the
arts, but professions such as teaching or medicine are invested with an
aversion towards competition (which is not such a bad thing). i like living
in the u.s., but i could stand a more socialist and caring government.

after eating some really bad food at a top notch "tourist" restaurant, my
beautiful girlfriend jennifer and i headed home on the exhaust-ridden
malecon. we came upon two men setting out on styrofoam rafts for an unknown
destination. our imaginations went wild as these two men lowered their raft
over the wall into the water. they climbed in after their boats with fins on
and bags in hand. as they paddled away, they waved an apparent good-bye to
their friends sitting on the wall. the little lights of their cigarettes
glowing in the night, floated slowly away. of course, we thought they were
headed to florida, but they were only going fishing. for one thing this
would be the wrong part of the coast to leave from and also the success rate
of rafting to florida is pretty low these days.

to be continued next month.

enjoy!

claudine

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wow!  i can hardly wait for august.  looks like i'll be able to see ig
three times that month.  i've already bought tickets for newport and lilith
(milwaukee) and i'm planning to buy them for the saratoga springs show as
well.  now, if i could only figure out a way to get from stanhope nj to
newport without going through nyc i might be set for that show too.  ah
well, it's just a dream.
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still looking for that killer dvd and id also like any of the list members
in canada who are going to see star wars to do me a favor
in canada only they are having a program book there at the movie and its
only going to be in certian theaters to  but id like a few copies of that
if i can get it please write me off list

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hey all!

first i want to say wow!  amy can write prose as well as she writes songs.
she has an eye for the smaller things and draws them out, then places them
back in the bigger picture.  there are so many places in her journal where
she does this ... like the "lean" kids where she points them out to the
reader, describes their body types as athletic not malnourished, then puts it
back in the context of the poor economy of cuba.  wow!  and her over all
descriptions make you see the area and feel the smog and the heat.  i can't
wait to read what she adds next month, as well as hear the music they made on
this trip.  does anyone know if a cd is in the works?

and on a side note... i think this was the first place i have ever seen
either of them address in public their private relationships.  if amy had not
said that her gf was with her in cuba, told us her name and that she is
beautiful, we might never have known.  i am impressed that she added this
information since it is not something that is ever talked about.  not that
this should mean it is open season for talk about such private matters, but i
am sure others noted this ... so heck... i bit the bullet and brought it up.

thanks again for pointing that article out and can't wait to read more.

babs ... who is sending in her order for newport tickets tomorrow!

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on mon, 17 may 1999, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:

> still looking for that killer dvd and id also like any of the list members
> in canada who are going to see star wars to do me a favor

   star wars?  what star wars?  didn't they finish star wars in 1984 or
something?  ;)

   darius

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on mon, 17 may 1999, ryan blackhawke wrote:

> in a rather controversial move, the makah tribe here in western
> washington slaughtered a grey whale in the name of "tradition" with
> power boats and 50-caliber anti-tank guns. for more info:

   point me to the information which shows that they used .50-calibre
"antitank guns", please.
   if you folks are going to spread rhetoric, don't be inaccurate about
it, or you look foolish.

   furthermore, hunting whales is a part of the makah tradition - it's
very hypocritical for us to rant and rave about native american culture,
how it should be preserved and such, and then attack them for following
their traditions.
   you need to learn to respect what you don't understand - and you need
to understand different cultures before you embrace or attack.  anything
else, and you're just as bad as the "closed-minded right-wing
conservatives" that we all constantly bitch about.
   the grey whale is not on the endangered species list, and the tribe has
been limited in their take.  also, the makah tribe is not allowed to sell
any edible whale parts.
   a return to the commercial whaling factories of earlier this century?
alarmist bullshit.  they were out there with handheld harpoons,
pea-shooters, and a canoe, for chrissakes!

   darius

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>    point me to the information which shows that they used .50-calibre
> "antitank guns", please.
>    if you folks are going to spread rhetoric, don't be inaccurate about
> it, or you look foolish.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/270215.asp

their traditions include using a specially made anti-tnk rifle and power
boats? i'm all for native traditions and would have supported this hunt
better if they had followed tradition. here is the first paragraph found at
msnbc.

    "the seven-man whaling crew in a traditional cedar canoe struck the
whale with harpoons at 6:55     a.m. under gray and misty skies off the
pacific coast. support crews in motorized boats moved in             with
.50-caliber rifles and fired at least two shots to try to make the kill, as
the wounded whale towed     the canoe through choppy seas about one-eighth
of a mile offshore near point of the arches."

here is the story from http://www.cnn.com/nature/9905/17/makah.whale.ap/

    support crews in motorized boats moved in with guns and fired at least
two shots to try to make the         kill as the wounded whale towed the
canoe through choppy seas about one-eighth of a mile offshore         near
point of the arches. the water turned red as the whalers then stuck the
giant mammal with two         more harpoons.

and usa today has a story at

http://www.usatoday.com/news/ndsmon01.htm


and i watched it happen on the live "news" broadcast.

>    furthermore, hunting whales is a part of the makah tradition - it's
> very hypocritical for us to rant and rave about native american culture,
> how it should be preserved and such, and then attack them for following
> their traditions.

i really believe the ancestors killed whales for food, not out of tradition.
it was also their tradition to keep slaves. will they want to revive that
tradition next? i know it was certainly the tradition of the forefathers of
this nation. should we expect to allow this tradition to be brought back
because the white supremacists "just want to bond with their ancestors"

>    the grey whale is not on the endangered species list, and the tribe has
> been limited in their take.  also, the makah tribe is not allowed to sell
> any edible whale parts.

because of lobbying by the makahs who were backed by japanese whalers, who
have also stated they will now seek permission to hunt whales out of their
"tradition."  do you really think that the 80 years it took to bring the
grey whale population back up to a modest 20,000 is enough? as much as i've
always hated the "slippery slope" argument, in this case, i predict much
lower whale population within 5 years unless their permits are revoked and
the whaling ban put forth by iwc is strictly enforced.

>    a return to the commercial whaling factories of earlier this century?
> alarmist bullshit.  they were out there with handheld harpoons,
> pea-shooters, and a canoe, for chrissakes!

a 50-caliber armor piercing weapon going *thru* the whale is a pea-shooter?
200-hp power boats = canoe*s*? their pr firm taught them well.

i say if they wanted to maintain tradition and "bond", they should have
followed their ancestors path and sent several canoes out solely powered by
rowing. they should have had to use nothing but harpoons and they should
have had to manually row it back to shore.  now if i really wanted to spread
alarmist bs< i'd say i read somewhere that as a part of their whaling
tradition, they would perform a human sacrifice to thank the whale for
giving its life. but i prefer to stick to the facts of what i have seen on
the news with my own eyes as the seas turned red.

i suppose that very shortly we will be told to take this offline.  i will
abide by that wish but i will not stand to be called "foolish"

ryan blackhawke

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neil - got your cds today.  thank you.  one is a cdr of a concert by the
girls on 6/28/94, radio city music hall - "nothing to hide".  i also
have a show "wine & roses" from radio city music hall, dated 6/28/94.
the setlights of these two shows are almost similar, but slightly
different.  did they do two shows this night, or is one mistakenly
dated, or what?  anyone know?

elaine

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on mon, 17 may 1999, ryan blackhawke wrote:

> their traditions include using a specially made anti-tnk rifle and power
> boats?

   .50-calibre = anti-tank?  in case you're not up on the math, .50
calibre is really close to .45 calibre, which is the same size you'll find
in my grandfather's colt pistol.  damn...if i could take out tanks with
that little guy...now that would be gun control!

> i really believe the ancestors killed whales for food, not out of tradition.

   sure.  and they're gonna be eating the whale meat.  so they're killing
it for food.  whales, as much as i hate to say it, are sustainable
resources, as long as the hunt doesn't take insane numbers.  5 a year to
feed a tribe of 2,000?  doesn't sound particularly insane to me.

> should we expect to allow this tradition to be brought back
> because the white supremacists "just want to bond with their ancestors"

   you tell me - need i point out that if certain other cultures hadn't
intervened with their commercial whale refineries, there wouldn't be a
problem.

> because of lobbying by the makahs who were backed by japanese whalers, who
> have also stated they will now seek permission to hunt whales out of their
> "tradition."  do you really think that the 80 years it took to bring the
> grey whale population back up to a modest 20,000 is enough? as much as i've
> always hated the "slippery slope" argument, in this case, i predict much
> lower whale population within 5 years unless their permits are revoked and
> the whaling ban put forth by iwc is strictly enforced.

   hm.  the iwc is allowing the makahs a take of 5/yr.  that's hardly a
dent on a population of 20,000.  how much is a much lower whale
population?  how high does the population need to be to be acceptable?
   everything we do, we take from nature.  that's life.  the goal here is
to find a sustainable balance, where nature can replentish by herself what
we take.  i doubt that a small whale catch is going to seriously impact
that.
   as for the japanese, well, that's another story entirely.  i imagine
the imagery of the bloody whale factory ships is still too fresh in the
minds of the iwc board members to let them do anything involving whales.
politics as usual.

>  i say if they wanted to maintain tradition and "bond", they should have
> followed their ancestors path and sent several canoes out solely powered by
> rowing. they should have had to use nothing but harpoons and they should
> have had to manually row it back to shore.

   hmmm.  i say that their methods are their methods.  i'd rather be shot
by a .50-cal rifle than a few dozen harpoons anyday, but what do i know -
you probably have much more empathy with the whale than i do.
   the net result is what matters.

> now if i really wanted to spread alarmist bs< i'd say i read somewhere
> that as a part of their whaling tradition, they would perform a human
> sacrifice to thank the whale for giving its life.

   no, that's population control!!  :)

   darius

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can these messages go to private email, please?

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date: monday, may 17, 1999 5:05 pm
subject: re: (nigc) makahs catch a whale [long]


>on mon, 17 may 1999, ryan blackhawke wrote:
>
>> their traditions include using a specially made anti-tnk rifle and power
>> boats?
>
>   .50-calibre = anti-tank?  in case you're not up on the math, .50
>calibre is really close to .45 calibre, which is the same size you'll find
>in my grandfather's colt pistol.  damn...if i could take out tanks with
>that little guy...now that would be gun control!
>
>> i really believe the ancestors killed whales for food, not out of
tradition.
>
>   sure.  and they're gonna be eating the whale meat.  so they're killing
>it for food.  whales, as much as i hate to say it, are sustainable
>resources, as long as the hunt doesn't take insane numbers.  5 a year to
>feed a tribe of 2,000?  doesn't sound particularly insane to me.
>
>> should we expect to allow this tradition to be brought back
>> because the white supremacists "just want to bond with their ancestors"
>
>   you tell me - need i point out that if certain other cultures hadn't
>intervened with their commercial whale refineries, there wouldn't be a
>problem.
>
>> because of lobbying by the makahs who were backed by japanese whalers,
who
>> have also stated they will now seek permission to hunt whales out of
their
>> "tradition."  do you really think that the 80 years it took to bring the
>> grey whale population back up to a modest 20,000 is enough? as much as
i've
>> always hated the "slippery slope" argument, in this case, i predict much
>> lower whale population within 5 years unless their permits are revoked
and
>> the whaling ban put forth by iwc is strictly enforced.
>
>   hm.  the iwc is allowing the makahs a take of 5/yr.  that's hardly a
>dent on a population of 20,000.  how much is a much lower whale
>population?  how high does the population need to be to be acceptable?
>   everything we do, we take from nature.  that's life.  the goal here is
>to find a sustainable balance, where nature can replentish by herself what
>we take.  i doubt that a small whale catch is going to seriously impact
>that.
>   as for the japanese, well, that's another story entirely.  i imagine
>the imagery of the bloody whale factory ships is still too fresh in the
>minds of the iwc board members to let them do anything involving whales.
>politics as usual.
>
>>  i say if they wanted to maintain tradition and "bond", they should have
>> followed their ancestors path and sent several canoes out solely powered
by
>> rowing. they should have had to use nothing but harpoons and they should
>> have had to manually row it back to shore.
>
>   hmmm.  i say that their methods are their methods.  i'd rather be shot
>by a .50-cal rifle than a few dozen harpoons anyday, but what do i know -
>you probably have much more empathy with the whale than i do.
>   the net result is what matters.
>
>> now if i really wanted to spread alarmist bs< i'd say i read somewhere
>> that as a part of their whaling tradition, they would perform a human
>> sacrifice to thank the whale for giving its life.
>
>   no, that's population control!!  :)
>
>   darius
>
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okay, curiousity question, is anyone else having problems opening the ig site
at epic?  it isn't working for me.  was there an addy change or something?
hmm......i'm a bit confused......thanks =)))


                                                        ---lindy =)

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i started reading this book last night...it's called
"eight bullets"  it's unbelievable,  it's sad, it's
tragic, and it's true.  *sigh*

in short, it's about --  wow how to explain it
briefly? has anyone heard of this book?  the author,
claudia brenner...retells her scary story - she and
her girlfriend, rebecca wight,were hiking on the
appalacian trail (spring 1988) together, a small
vacation together - they had a long distance
relationship - so time together.  anyway -
unfortunately they werent alone in the woods - a man
had been watching them...he shot at them...rebecca
died.  claudia survives.  her story is ... wow.

it all makes you wonder about 'things'-about people -
it makes me sick inside - it makes me so so sad to
think that you always have to look over your
shoulder...always have to be careful...always have to
have that car key ready - just in case. it gets
overwhelming after awhile - that you cant just go
hiking by yourself without being a little
concerned/worried...that you cant feel fully safe
outside when youre alone.

anyway - this is just a little of what im thinking
about - i really reccommend reading this book...'eight
bullets' by claudia brenner...

damn, it makes you think.
take it easy,
sunny


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date:         mon, 17 may 1999 23:07:08 -0400
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no pun intended...

heys :o)

>one quick question--what's the url for the art that goes with neil's most
>recent cdr offer?

that would be this:
http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/scans/bsides.html

>neil - got your cds today.  thank you.  one is a cdr of a concert by the
>girls on 6/28/94, radio city music hall - "nothing to hide".  i also
>have a show "wine & roses" from radio city music hall, dated 6/28/94.
>the setlights of these two shows are almost similar, but slightly
>different.  did they do two shows this night, or is one mistakenly
>dated, or what?  anyone know?

same recording, same show - too long for a single disc, so i guess they cut
it up differently. not one of the better boot cds in my opinion (but far
better than complicated girls). more info on such related things is on a
link from here:
http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/igs/igsmain.htm
which is the only part of my site in reasonable working order. must update
soon...

peace &c.

neil
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'imagination'; ray charles - 'genius + soul' disc one; joan baez - 'gone
>from danger'

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hello. if anyone can get the sundance channel and can tape some things off
of it, please get ahold of me! not sure what and where this channel is, but
they are running lesbian movies and documentaries soon. any info, please
let me know and thanks.
karen

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not trying to start anything, just wanted to clarify things about the weapon
purported to be used....

>>.50-calibre = anti-tank?  in case you're not up on the math, .50
calibre is really close to .45 calibre, which is the same size you'll find
in my grandfather's colt pistol.  damn...if i could take out tanks with
that little guy...now that would be gun control!<<

actually, the calibre of the munition doesn't really have much to do with
the killing/stopping power of a weapon.  all the calibre number is, is an
indication of the type of weapon a shell can be paired with.  now without
really knowing what type of gun was used and just going on the description
of "anti-tank machine gun" along with the size of the intended target (grey
whale)...i'm assuming the weapon being talked about is on par with those
being used by the military.  that being said, the shells fired from the .50
calibre weapon in question would easily be capable of killing a whale as
they are approximately 6 inches in length and able to shear a 55 gallon drum
in half.

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>from: barbara todd <indigobabs@aol.com>
>
>i can't
>wait to read what she adds next month, as well as hear the music they made on
>this trip.  does anyone know if a cd is in the works?


seems like i read or heard somewhere (maybe quincy jones talking about it on
charlie rose?) that none of the material could be recorded and released because
there was no way to ensure the cuban artists would get royalties for their work.
(but then i'm confused about amy's song "compromise" being worked on as a
collaborative work in cuba and the news that we've already heard that it's going
to be on the next album, so i may be completely wrong about that.)

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just to let eveyone who has been contacting me about the 3-cd set, i have a new e-mail address.

lashannon@mindspring.com.

lisa :)

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date:         tue, 18 may 1999 08:36:27 -0400
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hkf's,

i've asked this question before - i think privately, but i went digging &
couldn't find those responses so here it goes...  from hot-lanta to
kakadu...  who's awake?!

since the best recordings seem to come from those intimate venues that
sometimes are so quiet you can hear yourself breathe - i was wondering what
recording equipment is used and how it's used?  please feel free to use
specific brands/tapes/speakers and all that.

along those lines, can you use the same equipment for a larger
arena/theather show or do you need better (or higher) speakers to get away
from the crowd noise?  please feel free to use specifics once again - so i
can browse & surf and check prices out.

thanks for any info y'all can provide - and please post privately and so i
could compile some info. and send a summary back to the list...  of course i
don't know much about it so it might be a little simplified - but that's ok,
right? 8-)

anyway,
i also heard amy still likes me the best <g> just to squash any rumors...
8-)
mike
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hi!
        i just downloaded the indigo girls desktop theme from www.freethemes.com (go get it if you don't have it!). i am having problems installing it, anyone out there have suggestions? thanks for your help!

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does anyone know how to get advanced tickets to the atlanta lilith for the
july 23rd show?

thanks,

jen :-)

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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list...

-sherlyn

---begin forwarded message---
>date: mon, 17 may 1999 22:12:14 -0700
>from: harley <harley@ladyclergy.com>
>subject: [ig-news] re: interest in ani or ig poster?
>
>
>>date: sun, 16 may 1999 15:09:40 -0500
>>from: "lisa m. schreihart" <lschreihart@juno.com>
>>subject: [ig-news] interest in ani or ig poster? (last post)
>>
><stuff deleted>
>
>speaking of ani and ig.
>did you see the last issue of rockrgrl magazine?
>this may be old news.. but ani and amy ray were interviewed about their
>labels.
>if you can't find it at your local music/book store one can order back
>issues at:
>http://www.rockrgrl.com
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hi,
    on the first lilith fair they switched off on headliners.  indigos
headlined a few shows that year.  being that atlanta is their hometown and
they could fill lakewood amp. all by themselves, sarah probably let them
headline for that one show.
           hope that helps,  jodie

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nobody has mentioned this so i guess i will.....is anyone else upset
because the girls don't seem to be coming to the los angeles or orange
county, ca area?  i hope i am not missing something, but from what i can
tell they are not coming to these areas? jl

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hey all!

so i have been reading the posts about folks being sad that ig will not be
here or there this summer.  don't forget that if this new cd comes out in the
fall, they will tour to support it. so just because you live in a place that
will not get them with lilith, have no fear ... you should see them when the
cd is out.

babs :-)

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date:         wed, 19 may 1999 19:59:54 +1000
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hi all,
this is a silly game that we made up.
it's a spin on a game played in the british comedy show french and
saunders and is completely ludicrous but a lot of fun when you get into
it.

what you need
you need two or more die hard ig fans who know all the songs and tunes.

how to play
ok, someone plays the contestant and the other the game show host type
person but you alternate after each question.

it is important to use an accent such as a pommy english accent(like
french and saunders) when playing this game, but you might like to try a
southern accent as well.

the host person says  "in how many ig's will you name this tune in?"

note:  you can swap ig to other indigo related things such as amys or
emilys or atlanta's or la's or na's or thanks y'alls etc

the contestant replies by stating how many igs (or other) they will name
it in.  for eg.  "i shall name it in 3 ig's"

the host then hums out the part of tune of an ig song using the number of
ig's
(or other) stated and the contestant has to work out what song it is.

once you've worked it out you swap roles and play again.  we do this in
the car a lot and it has us in stitches!  if you like stupid games then
you should enjoy this!

good luck

maddie and annie

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date:         wed, 19 may 1999 13:10:15 +0200
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hey guys sorry about the delay...i wasn't able to access this mail until
this morning due to some server changes but i'm back!  so here we go!

may 18 ('53)
russ@dexmn.com (russ rutter)

may 19 ('70)
bedwards@actamed.com (bonnie edwards)

may 19 ('80)
xena44@juno.com (andy s. boettcher)

may 21 ('74)
indymike@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (mike enebach)

may 22
lag5926@garnet.acns.fsu.edu  (lauren)

may 22 (76)
rungek@aol.com (kara runge)
"alaska or bust!!!"

may 23 ('70)
steinike@mace.cc.purdue.edu (sue steinike)

may 23 ('71)
meylin@aol.com (cathy)

happy birthday one and all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

love and indigo,
audra
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date:         wed, 19 may 1999 04:41:40 pdt
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hi intimate strangers!

using that phrase reminds me that i just attended my ten-year high school
reunion two weeks ago, and it wasn't all that bad--it was good actually.
people were genuine, which surprised me, since our academy has a reputation
for being elitist, i.e. the motto is "where only the best is good enough",
which is meant to encourage achievement, but rather comes off as being
snobbish.  anyway, the 16 of us (out of 62) that came, we talked and
reminisced about almost every single classmate we ever had since
kindergarten.  that was fun.

on to the ig moments:  turned on the tv last friday to discover that they
were featuring lilith fair artists(or women's music, in general) on vh1 and
caught two still shots of amy and emily, one of them being the quartet on
"water is wide" with jewel and sarah m.  i can't recall what the other one
was.

and then, um, i turned on the radio sunday morning to channel 103.1 fm,
kacd, in l.a., only to discover that i had just missed hearing "tried to be
true"--the deejay mentioned all the songs in the set.

when i was looking on the website (http://www.lifeblood.net), i noticed that
they have updated it to include lyrics of several of the girls' new songs.
i hope they don't wait much longer after labor day to release their new cd.

diane - thanks to all for the great info on concerts and amy's notes.

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i was half listening to the radio at work yesterday and thinking "this
sounds like a nice song...i wonder what it is" and then i heard the dj say
"that was vonda shepard with emily saliers...." *argh* *pouts* i wasn't
really listening *sighs* only me.

okay enough griping from me.  i get to see jonatha brooke tonight *heh*

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hello kind friends --


i wanted to take this moment to mention that my friend elin will be playing
at eddie's on wednesday   um.... this wednesday  at 8pm as part of the open
mike contest thingy!  anyway, she's really really really good and cute too!
go see her if you're anywhere around decatur!

love,
jamie

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hey all,
my friend amanda needs some support here!  i know there are at least 100 of
you that are willing to do this!  let's support the little guy(girl)!
thanks.
cheri

>hi everybody:
>
>want to support indie music?
>
>here's how you can.
>
>i have entered the lilith fair on-line contest and i need votes!  the song i
>entered was "misunderstood".  if i receive the most votes, i get the chance
>to play the lilith fair in chicago this summer.
>
>here's how you can vote for "misunderstood" :
>
>go to this address:  http://sharehouse.xoom.com/lilith.php3?sh_page=1  and
>click on "vote".
>**note that if you are not currently a member of xoom.com. you have to sign
>up to vote.  it's free and only takes few minutes.   so, please sign up!
>
>if you need to hear the song, before you vote (like, you haven't heard
>it!?!)-  go here http://www.winamp.com and download a free mp3 player.
>
>thanks for your support.   please forward this to 5 people.
>
>amanda
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susanne kieffer wrote:

> nobody has mentioned this so i guess i will.....is anyone else upset
> because the girls don't seem to be coming to the los angeles or orange
> county, ca area?  i hope i am not missing something, but from what i can
> tell they are not coming to these areas? jl

well, for those of you who haven't noticed, the indigo girls don't seem to be
doing much touring at all right now.  they're recording.  later, they will
tour.  probably all over, including la and orange county.  we must simply be
patient.

anna
(who lives in va, where no one besides annoying country stars and has-beens ever
tours)
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date:         wed, 19 may 1999 11:29:20 -0400
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for you east-coast travellers....

found a good rate on a hotel in decatur that is walkable to eddies and
near to the subway.  i think it's about 30 min. from lakewood.  some ig
intimate strangers and cyber-buddies are staying there - so i thought
i'd let ya'll know.  a few months ago, we talked about a list meet in
atlanta - lilith fair seems like a good time.  rooms at the super 8 on
church street in decatur are $55 for thurs. and $60 for fri & sat.  i
heard from people that have stayed there that it is clean and in a good
neighborhood.  we're doing the flying biscuit for brunch that saturday
morning.  maybe somebody good will be at eddie's that weekend for some
post lilith fun.

for super8 reservations, you can go to http://www.travelweb.com.

hope to meet some of you guys!

-tara lane

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this might be true but a lot of people(or so i've heard) are saying that
because they have been so busy lately(last year and this year) that they
are going to just put the cd out and then mostly rest.  anyone know if
there is truth to this? jl

barbara todd wrote:
>
> hey all!
>
> so i have been reading the posts about folks being sad that ig will not be
> here or there this summer.  don't forget that if this new cd comes out in the
> fall, they will tour to support it. so just because you live in a place that
> will not get them with lilith, have no fear ... you should see them when the
> cd is out.
>
> babs :-)
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i don't think that word is in amy's vocabulary.  maybe in emily's
though.

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hello everyone!

so i was bored at work (what else is new?) and i was going through our new
books, and we just got this great book.  i'm not sure if it's been
mentioned before, but it's a children's book _this land is your land_.
it's basically this land is your land's lyrics set to wonderful
illustrations and for the igc amy and emily are in an illustration of
those who participated in the tribute to woody guthrie at the rock n roll
hall of fame.  (ani is in the pic, too!)  the isbn is 0-316-39215-4, in
case you're interested...

thanks,
kelly
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> i don't think that word is in amy's vocabulary.  maybe in emily's
> though.

        oh, sure it is. i can hear her saying "i plan to be insanely
busy for the rest of my life" clear as day.
        mandy

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                                        -rachel shulman

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                                        -professor kate henry

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                                        -dave barry


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subject:      a light extinguished.....sigc

hkf's.....

please forgive the intrusion......earlier this afternoon i had to say a
final goodbye to a sweet, loving animal who has been my companion for over
12 years.......dweezil was more than just another cat......a wonderful
creature who greeted me unfailingly when i returned home from work or a late
gig......who would bound ahead of me to stretch out on the back of my chair
(and occasionally pull at my hair) while i occupied myself on the
computer.......or stretch out on the desk to the right of me and lay with
his head resting on the back of my right hand while i was trying to
manipilate the mouse......who would 'fetch' a small foam rubber ball (at his
insistence) until he dropped from exhaustion........who would wait patiently
(for a cat, anyway) for me to finish my breakfast cereal so that he could
savor the last few drops of milk......

my mind keeps going back to 'dead man's hill' and those miscreants that amy
observed so long ago......if they only understood........

his passing leaves such a void.......

peace....
tim

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just ran across this and thought that it was interesting...

the mark of a musician

by david browne

06/19/1992
entertainment weekly

look closely at the cover of zz top's new greatest hits album, especially at
the chromelike top logo.  see that small, circled r floating next to the
band's name that looks suspiciously like a registered trademark symbol?
sure enough-that's zz top(r) to you, mister.  and what's that demarcation on
the cover of rites of passage, the new album by indigo girls-or, rather,
indigo girls(r)?

registering a band's name as a trademark may seem ludicrous, but according
to stuart silfen, one of zz top's attorneys, it's "a way to prevent against
infringement.  if you have something identifiable, you need to protect it as
you would any other asset.  it's no different from general motors or ford."
zz top and indigo girls aren't alone in     making like gm.  among the
hundreds of bands and musicians who have registered their names with the
u.s. patent and trademark office of the department of commerce are chicago,
r.e.m., u2, and that renowned long
island corporation, billy joel.

according to the complex trademark laws, performers are not legally
obligated to trademark their names; even if r.e.m. hadn't done so, the fact
that the band has been using that name for more than a decade makes it
impossible for another r.e.m. to exist.  yet according to the u.s. trademark
association, most big-league rockers (like zz top, which trademarked its
name and logo in 1986) register anyway, primarily to counter bootleg
merchandise.  the process is fairly painless and can cost as little as
$200-barely the price of an hour in the studio.

sometimes an artist has a compelling reason to apply for a trademark.
shortly after indigo girls signed with sony's epic label in 1989, an
illinois band called the indigos contested the name.  since amy ray and
emily saliers hadn't yet registered the name indigo girls, they had to prove
they had used it first.  because they had been performing as a duo since
1985, they were allowed to keep, and trademark, the moniker. "any band that
comes up with a name and performs publicly should trademark their name as
soon as they have the money to do it," advises russell carter, indigo girls'
manager, who says the group's court  battle was "time-consuming-and it cost
us a lot of money.  but if anyone tries to use the name in any way, we can
send a cease-and-desist letter.  so it was money well spent."

since trademark owners are not obligated to display the jarring(r) symbol if
they don't want to, why did indigo girls?  carter attributes its appearance
in the album art to "some zealous lawyer in sony music business affairs,"
but adds, "it's not a bad idea.  we have a trademark, so we might as well
put people on notice.  "up-and-comers
searching for names for their acts may have a few options left, though:
metallica and garth brooks haven't registered their names-yet.

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i was interviewed by king5 news in seattle for the new seti@home distributed
computing project. it will be on tonite at 11. what a kick in the pants! if
you want to help the project, you can get all the info at

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu.


ryan blackhawke
owner - fremont hemp co.
3526 fremont pl. n. seattle wa
http://www.fremonthemp.com
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date:         thu, 20 may 1999 01:54:38 -0400
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hey beautiful peoples,

not a huge deal, but i was just looking on the lilith news site, and it said
that the ellen episode with ig and sarah m. was supposed to be on lifetime
tonight (wednesday).  did anyone catch it?

anyway, that's about it.  did ya ever have those classes where you had to
write a certain number of journal entries, and you left until the night
before?  that's about where i'm at.  i have about 32 more to do, but they're
only a paragraph long each, and they can be about anything i want, so...

wish me luck! :):)

shannon
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i downloaded the indigo girls desktop, but am having trouble making it
work ... well, in applying it and making it my desktop.  can anyone offer
advice?  thanks.

sue

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hey y'all~
        i was just wondering if any of you know a web site that has ig tour
schedules (if there are any???) or ig concerts posted? i am like desperate to
see ig this summer. anyone with any web sites please email me privately.
thanks.
~alyssa who wishes she had more time to post...

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just wanted to say thanks to those of you who've been writing and
encouraging me with my various things (ie: the coming out thing, my thesis
and, most recently, those blasted journals).

you'll be happy to know that i finished the journals on time, although i had
to work until 5 and get up at 8 to work again in order to do it.  i had to
do 40 entries, each one about a paragraph or so, about whatever i wanted.
reading back over them this morning was hilarious -- some of the topics were
things like "80's music and what it means to me," or "why i don't like to
wear shoes," or "my ex-fiance is a tacky bastard."  great fun.

i read somewhere that they've posted some of the lyrics to the new songs at
lifeblood...was that on this list?  if it was, sorry to be redundant...  i
want winthrop!!  i really hope it's on the new cd.

enough rambling!  have a good night everyone -- tomorrow is my last day of
college classes!!!!  yesssssss!! :)

love from the flattest part of ohio,

shannon :)
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hey all...signing off...heading north....be good and don't fight!!  :)

peace y'all,
kara.

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<<hey beautiful peoples,

not a huge deal, but i was just looking on the lilith news site, and it said
that the ellen episode with ig and sarah m. was supposed to be on lifetime
tonight (wednesday).  did anyone catch it?>>

i have this episode on video, along with a few ig musical
appearances.

if anyone wants a copy, e-mail me.

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<hey beautiful peoples,

not a huge deal, but i was just looking on the lilith news site, and it said
that the ellen episode with ig and sarah m. was supposed to be on lifetime
tonight (wednesday).  did anyone catch it?>

i have this episode on video, along with a few ig musical
appearances.

if anyone wants a copy, e-mail me.

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congratulations! you've been granted a wish.  the indigo girls are on your
phone.  you get to ask them one question about anything.  what is it and why?
(let's remember to keep it short.)
lynn

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hkf's,

just a quick fyi...  i just got 4th row center-section for tori & alanis at
lakewood!!!!!! <yeah!>  tix's for a lot of shows went on sale this morning
at 10:00am.  it asks for your e-mail just like that special lilith offer
(12th row 7/23 anyone?) and i typed my e-mail address and it worked just
like normal.  (i don't think they're related - maybe it's just a glitch...
hmmmm?)

so stop reading and go go go!!!!  raise your hands (mouse) high!!!!!!  ...
just go go go...

go to www.ticketmaster.com and search on tori amos - (or that other canadian
chick)


8-)
a+e=ig
mkc

"i know there is strength in the differences between us."-ani

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chance0631@aol.com wrote:
>
> congratulations! you've been granted a wish.

if i had one wish, i certainly wouldn't wish for a phone
conversation . . . . ;)  i'd rather "converse" in person <lewd and very
inappropriate grin>.

elaine

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i think i would ask them how they are able to stay focused and passionate
about making their music, and how they are able to stay true to their vision
for what they think their music should be...how, after 15 some years, they
are still able to create good, wonderful, meaninful music.  i think that's
all one question.  in my mind, anyways.

--shel

>congratulations! you've been granted a wish.  the indigo girls are on your
>phone.  you get to ask them one question about anything.  what is it and
>why?
>  (let's remember to keep it short.)
>lynn
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chance0631@aol.com wrote:
"congratulations! you've been granted a wish.  the
indigo girls are on your phone.  you get to ask them
one question about anything.  what is it and why?
(let's remember to keep it short.)"

my question would be:
"do you ever sit and think about the contribution that
you have made to the world? and if so, how does it
make you feel?"

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peace, love & indigo light
beccie lyon

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joanna leigh, from australia... please contact me... i received your 2 =
tapes today but there was nothing indicating what boots you want, and =
there was no return postage.  please contact me asap.  thanks.

~~jennifer
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"i'm pooh," said pooh.
"i'm tigger," said tigger.
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geez i am sorry to not be as poetic and thoughtful as all the rest of
ya'll but my question would be:

amy will you marry me?
emily will you stand up for me?


peace and indigo love,
nikki
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what's the easiest way to turn mp3s into audio cds? i can turn them into wavs
but then what? is there some easy way that i don't know about?

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