lifeblood: listlogs: 1999-08b


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date:         sun, 8 aug 1999 10:23:51 edt
reply-to:     hunterj1@aol.com
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subject:      june 1994, manchester, england -- did you see the show?
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hi :)  i have a tape of the manchester, england, ig show at the academy and
wondered if anyone on the list saw the show.  i'd like to verify the setlist.

jude :)

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date:         sun, 8 aug 1999 15:28:12 -0400
reply-to:     "karen, the 'raging' feminist" <s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu>
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from:         "karen, the 'raging' feminist" <s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu>
subject:      nigc ( well, maybe a little)
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not like i need another thing to do before i leave for japan...but...
my friend (who is on her way to michigan womyn's music fest!) and i were
talking about starting a womyn folk list one onelist.  anyway, so i went
ahead and started it.  so if any of you are interested in joining, the
title is:

womynfolkartists

and it can be found at onelist's site (www.onelist.com)

:-) karen (i am subscribed to that one under another e-mail address:
prochoicer@gurlmail.com)

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date:         sun, 8 aug 1999 17:27:09 edt
reply-to:     nokomis07@aol.com
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subject:      indigos/bravo!!
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    hey everyone!
    just saw amy&emily on the bravo cable channel!!  there is a half hour
show on there called "the arts" & they did a 10 minute segment on that cuba
trip that all those musicians went on.  they didnt speak to a&e about
anything but ya get to see them milling around on stage! amy playing her
mandolin!!  :)

    hey is it raining in newport?  it is in new
york!!----------------------indigodani

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date:         sun, 8 aug 1999 14:40:40 pdt
reply-to:     "becky b." <indigo_24@hotmail.com>
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from:         "becky b." <indigo_24@hotmail.com>
subject:      nigc:spitfire tour website
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hey everyone!
i've been trying to visit the spitfire spoken word tour website
(www.spitfiretour.com) and i've been coming up empty handed. is it just my
computer/server or is anyone else having this difficulty? maybe the site is
just down or being updated. thanks! hope everyone had a good weekend!
peace,
becky


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date:         sun, 8 aug 1999 20:20:56 edt
reply-to:     ctofine@aol.com
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from:         claudia rollins <ctofine@aol.com>
subject:      re: nigc:spitfire tour website
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i can't get it to open, either.....just an fyi that it may not be your
server.....

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date:         sun, 8 aug 1999 21:27:10 -0000
reply-to:     melissa singhaus <msinghaus@msmisp.com>
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from:         melissa singhaus <msinghaus@msmisp.com>
subject:      can jude from va e-mail me
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i am getting the copy i had of columbus ohio 98 boot of the lillith fair
back if you can copy it from micro to a regular tape i will send it to you
and you can send it back with only one thing make me a bigger copy of it.
sorry it took so long to get back to you with this. missy

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date:         sun, 8 aug 1999 21:48:07 -0000
reply-to:     melissa singhaus <msinghaus@msmisp.com>
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subject:      re: 9:30 boot on cd
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how do i obtain a copy of this boot. i can send money to cover the cd and
return postage. let me know. missy
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from: deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
to: indigo-girls@netspace.org <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
date: friday, august 06, 1999 4:42 pm
subject: re: 9:30 boot on cd


>at 12:12 pm 08/06/99 , you wrote:
>>on fri, 6 aug 1999, deb wrote:
>>
>> > if someone is willing to organize a cd tree, i will provide my original
>> > remastered wavs to them.
>>
>>    you have a fast enough connection to do that?
>
>no, i would provide them on cd-r, they hold data too! :-)  and they'll
>produce a much better cd than dubbing an audio cd-r (which is never
>recommended), identical to my own master.
>
>>   i just bought a computer
>>exclusively for music recording (yay for home studios!) and some graphic
>>design, and i can turn them into high-quality mp3s and serve the
>>off my webserver, if anybody is interested.  :)
>
>i have the xing encoder and can convert them to mp3 myself, but let's work
>on the cd tree for now.
>
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date:         sun, 8 aug 1999 19:32:48 -0700
reply-to:     ryan blackhawke <hawke2@email.msn.com>
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subject:      sigc: honor the earth
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as you all know, we are in the middle of a fundraising drive to be able to
bring another concert series to you benefitting honor the earth (an
organization near and dear to the hearts of our girls).  this is a very
worthwhile organization run with the highest integrity.

that being said, hte needs your help. donate your money or your time. help
get the word out. do you write for your school's newspaper? an article would
be great. do you advertise? how about a small blurb about how your business
supports honor the earth? ask your local hangouts if you can put a change
jar near their register. there is so much you can do to help out.

and all prizes aside (and you have to admit they are some sweet prizes),
helping honor the earth with your monetary and other contributions will just
give you the biggest case of warm fuzzies.

now for the disclaimer: i am coordinator for the pnw region. we're doing
pretty good but i think we can do better. anyone in the pnw who wants to get
involved, please call me. if you aren't in the pnw area and still want to
get involved please do so! i'm sure greta has the complete list of
coordinators for each region. helping honor the earth makes us all winners.

ryan blackhawke
owner - fremont hemp co
(206)632-hemp
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date:         mon, 9 aug 1999 13:09:58 +0200
reply-to:     "i am 32 flavors and then some..." <tisara@www.webworqs.com>
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subject:      birthdays....(i spelled it right this week) *grins*
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hippo birdies two ewes!

august 10, 1969. :)
foxmuldr@indy.net (rick hodgin)

august 10 ('78)
s-laufer@nwu.edu (sari)

august 10 ('75)
reposa@scf-fs.usc.edu (jeanette)
"so what is love then, is it dictated or chosen?  does it sing like
the hymns of 1000 years or is it just pop emotion?  and if it was ever
here and it left does it mean it never was true?"

august 12
bf2brland@sprintmail.com  barb!
(happy anniversary barb & twink!)

august 14th
kelly (kasmall@custom.net)


again, my fellow leos! *grins* stand in the spotlight!  shine *hee* it's
what we're all about!

and *takes liberties again* very very special happy birthdays to my
friends:  r a y n a (the one and only bh) on the 13th and my friend mandi
(the one and only compliant one) on the 14th!  love you guys!

as always,
audra
bge
*who is seriously counting down to her own birthday - which is in 13
days!*

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date:         mon, 9 aug 1999 23:26:01 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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subject:      fw: igc "forever dusty!"
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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list...

-sherlyn

---begin forwarded message---
>from: rebrad@aol.com
>date: mon, 9 aug 1999 08:44:29 edt
>subject: igc "forever dusty!"
>
>just a heads up...
>
>
>i'm helping start a spare (as if) time side project called r&d records
>("better listening through research and development").
>
>our first project (which you may have heard about or read about in
billboard,
>the advocate, curve, etc.)is called "forever dusty! homage to an icon."
this
>first-ever recorded tribute to dusty springfield is full of great music.
>packed with all-new recordings of the songs dusty did (all the hits you know
>and love...and some choice obscure nuggets), forever dusty! features 17 top
>female artists/groups.  here's the list:
>
>laura love band (seattle)
>the butchies (durham nc)
>indigo girls (atlanta)
>jill sobule (nyc)
>zrazy (dublin)
>gail ann dorsey (nyc)
>marti jones (canton oh)
>michell malone (atlanta)
>vicki randle (los angeles)
>sonia of disappear fear (baltimore)
>jennifer kimball (boston)
>cath carroll (chicago via london)
>ana egge (austin)
>kate pierson of b-52s (nyc)
>lord douglas phillips featuring gretchen phillips (austin/nyc)
>sara lee (nyc via london)
>mrs. fun featuring janet planet (milwaukee)
>
>a good group of gals, that's for sure.  by the way, we're earmarking a
>portion of proceeds to breast cancer organizations, so there's a nice added
>bonus.  anyway, the recordings are all done and ready for replication.
we're
>talking with some fine folks right now about distribution opportunities...so
>once that's decided i'll let you know what the actual and real street date
is
>(prob. 9/28).
>
>
>thanks, rebekah.
>

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date:         mon, 9 aug 1999 10:38:08 edt
reply-to:     guinione@aol.com
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if anyone out there is from ri - is there such a newspaper  ???

if so, can someone save me a copy of two - a grils was at the show yesterday
taking crowd shots and said they would run in this paper ...

i'll gladly pay for the copies & shipping

chris

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date:         mon, 9 aug 1999 11:05:12 -0400
reply-to:     havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com>
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subject:      road trip to saratoga springs.....

hey, y'all......

i'm just about to depart for spac.......looking forward to some great music
and the chance to meet as many listees as possible.......

peace, love, and harmony.....
tim

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date:         mon, 9 aug 1999 12:52:56 edt
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howdy all,

just thought i'd post another little encouragement for all of you who have
contemplated sending something in...

in light of our donation quota thus far, we've decided that it would be in
everyone's best interest to scrap the regions idea.  to date, the fundraiser
has raised approximately $900, all thanks to the actions of two very generous
listees.  seattle's ryan blackhawk is in the lead with $650 (and
counting...), and diva java solis & her dreamcatchers are in second with
$250.  from this point on, winning listees will be judged by donation size
only (this way if someone from ny sends in $50, and a listee from the pnw
donates $5, we'll have a way to differentiate who is in higher running for
the prizes).
speaking of which, i just wanted to remind all of you that we still have a
bevy of gifts to give away.  since we only have two donators thus far, any
size donation will be in the running for a prize at this point.  to recap:

~ the top ten donors will receive an advanced tour intinterary for honor2000,
listing yet un-publicized venues & dates, as well as an official hte 100%
hemp tour poster, autographed by amy and emily.
~ the top three donators (as well as being awarded the above) will be given
an autographed press photo and two golden circle tickets to the indigo girls
show of their choice (this being in the 1999 fall tour)
~the top overall donator will receive an advanced tour itinerary, an
autographed tour poster, a $250 gift certificate to the freemont hemp company
(accessible over the web), a tour t-shirt, an autogrpahed press photo, a
signed copy of the newly released cd and two golden circle tickets to the
indigo girls show of their choice.  a personal thank you note directly to the
donator from both amy and emily will be written on one of the autographed
items.

just to be clear:  there are 14 prize packages total, and we have only two
competeing donors.  that means at this point a donation of $5 will get you
one of the 12 remailing prizes (potentially golden circle tickets).

checks and money orders to be made out to honor the earth/the tides center.
receipts will be available for tax purposes for contributions over $100.
donations may be sent to:

honor the earth fundraiser
c/o greta gohn & kristen mcelveen
621 house wren circle
palm harbor, fl 34683

remember, the fundraiser ends on august 30th.  all donations that want to be
counted in the final total must be in the mail by the 25th.  feel free to
email me with any questions.

thanks for bearing with me again y'all.  you rock.

-greta

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date:         mon, 9 aug 1999 16:35:44 -0400
reply-to:     "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com>
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from:         "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com>
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hey ya'll - i need some help.  my gf counter proposed (yippee - a diamond
and everything!) and i'm trying to plan a commitment ceremony.  anyone have
any advice from experience about *anything* - cool stuff for the ceremony,
readings, procedures, what to avoid, etc.?

and while i'm at it... can someone please explain to me the significance of
the rainbow to gay people?  i'm sure it has some meaning, but i don't know
exactly what it is.  anyone know of a webpage about it?

thanks kind friends,
tara

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date:         mon, 9 aug 1999 20:36:59 -0400
reply-to:     ruth israely <gammage@brandeis.edu>
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from:         ruth israely <gammage@brandeis.edu>
organization: brandeis university
subject:      re: nigc, gay stuff
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tara-
congratulations!!

i've been a lurker on this list for a few months.  but i recently read a
book called "the girls next door".  i can't remember the last names of
the women who wrote it, but it was basically a collection of
essays/stories about life in lesbian america.  i recommend the book to
anyone (lesbian or otherwise- it's a good read as well as being
"educational").  in the last chapter there is an account of a lesbian
wedding, and there were some nice traditions- family/chosen family
participation, a broomstick-hop that goes back to american
slave-weddings, and just a bunch of nice ideas. :)

also, i've been told (tho i can't say that it's a fact) that the rainbow
symbolizes an embracing of the diversity of our community, or any
community.  just some more gay trivia for anyone who doesn't know- the
pink triangle was the symbol that gay people were forced to wear by the
nazis during the holocaust.  a lot of people know about that, but what a
lot of people might not know is that lesbians were forced to wear black
triangles.  anyway, so the triangle is a symbol of pride in our
identity.

congratulations again and best wishes to you and your partner! :)

keep smiling,
ruth

lane, tara e. wrote:
>
> hey ya'll - i need some help.  my gf counter proposed (yippee - a diamond
> and everything!) and i'm trying to plan a commitment ceremony.  anyone have
> any advice from experience about *anything* - cool stuff for the ceremony,
> readings, procedures, what to avoid, etc.?
>
> and while i'm at it... can someone please explain to me the significance of
> the rainbow to gay people?  i'm sure it has some meaning, but i don't know
> exactly what it is.  anyone know of a webpage about it?
>
> thanks kind friends,
> tara
>
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date:         tue, 10 aug 1999 12:54:48 +1200
reply-to:     emiray saliamy <ig_boogy_babe@chickmail.com>
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subject:      '99 spitfire tour - try this site instead
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>
>see the spitfire site for more details:
>http://www.spitfiretour.com
>
it redirects to here, and its working now

http://www.colleges.com/spitfire/


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date:         mon, 9 aug 1999 20:55:40 edt
reply-to:     ctofine@aol.com
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from:         claudia rollins <ctofine@aol.com>
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i went to a ceremony a few years back...that was much more precious than any
of the "straight" weddings i've been to.

the couple had their friends read from shakespeare...sing....etc.

no matter who you are dedicating your life to, i believe that your ceremony
should be inately what makes up the both of you....

so, go forth and figure out what is special to both of you--and, incorporate
it into the wedding.  whether it is your friends reading something that is
special to both of you, or using candles that are your favorite scent and
color....

just my two cents worth on the subject!

:-)  ctofine

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date:         mon, 9 aug 1999 21:28:58 edt
reply-to:     indigokaj@aol.com
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kind friends,
     does anyone know if the ig have a specific opener for the seattle
bumbershoot show, or are they figuring all the other shows going on that day
will be enough to whet our whistles?
                                               :-)
                                                                        kim

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date:         mon, 9 aug 1999 20:43:48 -0500
reply-to:     amy l clements <amyloretta@juno.com>
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i, too, read the girls next door - it is an excellent book!
i know that they have it on amazon.com (and some critiques) - and barnes
and nobles carries it, i believe
amyc

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tara lane <telane@trigon.com> has agreed to run this tree, and i'll
probably be getting her the files in a week to 10 days depending on how
long it takes her to get the blank media to me.  she will follow up with
the list when she is ready to ask for cd-r branch volunteers.

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if someone is willing to organize a cd tree, i will provide my original
remastered wavs to them.  anyone who has the time that i don't to actually
organize this double-cd boot tree should contact me privately.  if neil is
willing to do it, i'd give him preference since i know he can deliver on a
project of this size.

[note:  i purposefully did not tree this as a cd originally because it is
so good that i am concerned that some people would make a profit on
it.  there are people making $s for cd-r's on ebay, and there are some
people on this list making a lot of money off of ig, and it would really
hurt me to have played any part in that kind of mercenary fan-dom.  i
distributed this show because it was too good to keep to myself, but i
don't want anyone making money off of it.  and while i know the vast
majority of you would not purposefully put this into the hands of such
folks, it's still a risk, but it's my hope that by making this offer via a
tree i can preclude such activity.]

most of it sounds like it came from the soundboard, though it is an
audience recording.  the only real problem with it is that the last minute
or so of galileo is cut off, and the beginning of "the boys just laugh" has
a bit of mic juggling as my friend resituated the recorder after changing
discs.  it should be noted that the static on "go" from the levels maxing
out is more noticeable on cd than it is on the tape.

this show was recorded in washington, dc on 8/10/98, the day after their
newport performance, and it was a benefit for ngltf.  here's the track list:

>      it's alright
>      land of canaan
>      get out the map
>      thin line
>      hammer and a nail
>      sister
>      least complicated
>      shed your skin
>      soon to be nothing
>      ozilene/shame on you
>      power of two
>      cut it out/wish you were here
>      virginia woolf
>      gone again
>      galileo (cut)
>      the boys just laugh
>      go
>      closer to fine

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hi,
  my very good friend daryl asked that i post this to the list. he works
for at&t wireless in seattle and wondered if any other at&t folks are
going to bumbershoot. he can be reached at:
   daryl.bunce@attws.com
-- or anyone else that might be going.

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hey hey....
i have an extra ticket....
anyone need one?  its a seat on the far amy side....
also...is there a meet at all?

i think my subject covered it....

oh, and if ya want the ticket, call me at 440-734-6361
my server's been touchy and i've not been able to get online much....

carol (hte spazzed and getting sick....)


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this was my first ig concert, so the review may be
choppy, but since i seem to be the first on, i will
give it a try.  first off, amazing.  (oh, let me just
say here that i am dying for a boot.  enough said.)
ig are rocking with the new band, and i can predict
awesome things for the album (amy said look for it in
late september) because they had a great time tonight.
the setlist included, but was possibly not limited to
(not in order):

(a new song first)
gone again
peace tonight (emily song... really nice upbeat)
faye tucker
shame on you
kid fears
tried to be true
least complicated
sister
go
(emily new song... get to the point of it...)
loves recovery
galileo
or (w/ rose p... gorgeous)

i'm sure there were others, but i just can't think at
this point.

encore was cedar tree sounded great with a real celtic
feel owing to the band, and of course closer to fine.
rose was also brought out and sang the "i stopped by
the bar..." verse.  the audience was great, very into
the new stuff, and strong singers too!  the michael
stipe part was done beautifully by the audience in kf
as well.  i can't hear out of my right ear owing to my
location in the 3rd row right next to the speakers,
but it was well worth it.  the girls looked great,
very into it.  can't wait to hear the album.
hoping others will post a better review, a complete
set list, and a boot offer,
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> (a new song first)

this was emily's cold beer & remote control.

> gone again
> peace tonight (emily song... really nice upbeat)
> faye tucker
> shame on you
> kid fears
> tried to be true
> least complicated
> sister
> go
>

> (emily new song... get to the point of it...)

this one's called trouble.


> loves recovery
> galileo
> or (w/ rose p... gorgeous)

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indigo girls, martin sexton rock newport folk fest

aug 9, 1999, 2:35 pm pt

                    the ben & jerry's
                    newport folk festival
                    may have made a name
                    for itself with
                    controversy (bob
                    dylan's electric
                    performance in '65, the
                    riots in '69) and the
                    enthusiastic
                    revitalization of
                    forgotten blues icons
like mississippi john hurt and skip james, but
1999's version proved about as sedate and
even-keeled as the gently rocking boats in
newport harbor.

in light of woodstock's recent turmoil, perhaps
the newport festival -- held saturday (aug. 7)
and sunday (aug. 8) at fort adams state park
in newport, r.i. -- could now credibly co-op
their tag line, "[two] days of peace, love, and
understanding."

with a strong songwriter-based mainstage
lineup that featured among others martin
sexton, robert earl keen, catie curtis, wilco,
and beth orton, saturday proved to be the
more consistently impressive of the festival's
two days. unfortunately for the performers,
the scorching sun on this cloudless day turned
the fort adams' grounds into a cookie sheet,
baking the audience and sapping its energy.

jeff tweedy's wilco, the only rock band on
the card, seemed especially perturbed by the
lack of response. midway through
"misunderstood," the sheet-white singer kicked
over his mike stand and launched into a
stunning, kurt cobain-esque yowl that echoed
angrily across the harbor. if nothing else, he
at least made some folks look up from under
their wide-brimmed hats.

soulful
singer/songwriter
sexton, a ringer for
early van morrison,
performed a stunning
set with his tactile and
elegant three-octave
vocal range. his skill
got him one of the
day's only encores, a
chilling, a cappella
version of "america the beautiful." it was an
appropriate outro given the day and the
occasion, though one wonders whether the
eccentric sexton meant any irony by it. joan
armatrading, the day's headliner, got the only
other encore; she played a tight but sterile
set to an appreciative crowd, but it lacked
firepower and emotional depth.

the torrential downpour sunday morning would
have quashed the enthusiasm of most festival
goers, but not on this day. in fact, there
doesn't seem to be any obstacle -- natural or
otherwise -- threatening enough to keep the
fans of the day's headliners, the indigo girls,
away from its beloved duet. veterans of nine
of the last 10 years in newport, (a colleague
calls the festival the ben & jerry & amy &
emily's newport folk festival), the indigo girls
and their legions of alt-lifestyle followers,
helped sunday draw three thousand more fans
than the saturday lineup, filling the grounds
from fort wall to water's edge with over
10,000 eager grrrls.

despite the mid-morning storm that drenched
early comers, the crowd -- cleaner than when
they arrived -- showed no signs of dampness.
songwriters ellis paul and jennifer kimball, who
also sang on saturday with catie curtis,
played well-received early sets, as did blues
up and comer susan tedeschi. but it wasn't
until ladysmith black mambazo appeared that
the crowd began coming to life. the
eight-piece vocal group spiced its zulu chants
with good-humored, gymnastic-type dancing
that gave the audience a break from the usual
introspective acoustic storytelling.

                    a trim steve earle kept
                    the momentum going
                    with a high-energy set
                    of bluegrass and roots
                    music, featuring guest
                    tom o'brien. suzanne
                    vega, another repeat
                    performer in newport,
                    played a nice, but
                    predictable set
                    peppered with songs
we'd all heard many times before, from "tom's
diner" and "luka" to "caramel" and early
favorite "marlena." new material, however,
would have provided vega a more substantial
reason for an appearance.

new material wasn't a problem for the indigo
girls, whose new album hits stores next week.
though they opened with crowd favorite
"least complicated," they tore into a couple of
aggressive new numbers that for the moment
turned what could have been a massive
singalong into a tuneful appreciation. amy ray
strapped on a wide-body gibson and
electrified the crowd with some enthusiastic
playing. she may not have stunned the
audience the way dylan stunned his audience
back in '65, but for this rather even-tempered
weekend, it was the most we could expect.


                              -- bob gulla

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hi guys,

it was so nice to see old friends - steph, marissa, the ever so hot and
spicy jill, all my baigl friends, as well as new friends shel and diane,
at the nff - kelly, how did i miss you?  michelle, does your car have a
n.h. plate that reads crz4ig?  or something like that?  it was a
wonderful time in spite of getting soaked in the rain, but the highlight
of the day was seeimg ms. ray in a tight, black tank top and . . . well,
i won't elaborate on the  tight jeans she wore and . . . .  oh my. . . .
can we say swoon?  just how shallow am i? (wiping the drool from my
chin)  but seriously, once again, the festival was excellent, and i
can't wait till next year.  suzanne vega, joan armatrading . . . all
wonderful.  and i just loved "faye tucker" with the band.
it kicked . . .

elaine

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hey there kiddies,

here is the way to spend an afternoon. blow off work, get picked up by a
wonderful faye  in a very fun convertible, and drive four hours the slow
way to see amy ray with frosted hair! we had a truly unbelievable day and
the show itself was amazing...

i guess someone has posted the setlist, which included most of the new
album (cold beer remote, gone again, sister, peace tonight, trouble, faye
tucker, and go)....after the stanhope review i was scared sheetless that it
was going to sound loose, sloppy, and out of sorts. wrong. tight, very
tight....and i'm not just talking about amy's jeans, altho. yes. anyway.
highlights: faye tucker, which positively rocks and makes me feel like i
can still have the indigo girls represented among the other stuff i listen
to because, well, amy is getting harder folks. for faye, the highlight of
faye tucker is hearing your own name screamed at 50 decibels by amy ray,
neck veins a poppin. it's just not the same when emily says "susan calls
from boston".


what else? rose's song was lovely, especially with harmonies contributed by
our girls. i was very pleased to hear cedar tree, and noticed that amy
changed the lyrics to "for every wife you had , you planted a cedar tree"
instead of that unpleasant wife murderer connotation. both girls were
smiling a lot and emily had several exquisitely femmey layers of sparkly
shit on her eyelids. i felt so bonded to her.

okay, what else? saratoga is lovely, spac is a great place for a show, and
there were at least 1000 people tbere older than me. i love that feeling.

if you want a copy of the boot, which is decent with minimal chatter (other
than me saying something like "im so sick of this" at the start of ctf)
give me a holler.....

sus
tired, tired, tired but happy

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did anyone happen to tape this show?
if you did, please let me know - i would love to get a copy!!!

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"new material wasn't a problem for the indigo
girls, whose new album hits stores next week."

am i missing something?  next week?  where did this guy get his
information?

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here's what i found ya'll (for those interested)...
the rainbow flag
the alyson almanac: a treasury of information for the gay and lesbian
community describes rainbow flag as follows:
in 1978, gilbert baker of san francisco designed and made a flag with six
stripes representing the six colors of the rainbow as a symbol of gay and
lesbian community pride. slowly the flag took hold, offering a colorful and
optimistic alternative to the more common pink triangle symbol. today it is
recognized by the international congress of flag makers, and is flown in
lesbian and gay pride marches worldwide. in 1989, the rainbow flag received
nationwide attention after john stout successfully sued his landlords in
west hollywood, when they prohibited him from displaying the flag from his
apartment balcony. meanwhile, baker is still in san francisco, and still
making more flags.
the rainbow flag by steven w. anderson appeared in gaze magazine
(minneapolis), #191, on 28 may 1993, p. 25:
color has long played an important role in our community's expression of
pride. in victorian england, for example, the color green was associated
with homosexuality. the color purple (or, more accurately, lavender) became
popularized as a symbol for pride in the late 1960s - a frequent
post-stonewall catchword for the gay community was "purple power". and, of
course, there's the pink triangle. although it was first used in nazi
germany to identify gay males in concentration camps, the pink triangle only
received widespread use as a gay pop icon in the early 1980s. but the most
colorful of our symbols is the rainbow flag, and its rainbow of colors -
red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and purple - represents the diversity of
our community.
the first rainbow flag was designed in 1978 by gilbert baker, a san
francisco artist, who created the flag in response to a local activist's
call for the need of a community symbol. (this was before the pink triangle
was popularly used as a symbol of pride.) using the five-striped "flag of
the race" as his inspiration, baker designed a flag with eight stripes:
pink, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet. according to
baker, those colors represented, respectively: sexuality, life, healing,
sun, nature, art, harmony, and spirit. baker dyed and sewed the material for
the first flag himself - in the true spirit of betsy ross.
baker soon approached san francisco's paramount flag company about mass
producing and selling his "gay flag". unfortunately, baker had hand-dyed all
the colors, and since the color "hot pink" was not commercially available,
mass production of his eight-striped version became impossible. the flag was
thus reduced to seven stripes.
in november 1978, san francisco's gay community was stunned when the city's
first openly gay supervisor, harvey milk, was assassinated, wishing to
demonstrate the gay community's strength and solidarity in the aftermath of
this tragedy, the 1979 pride parade committee decided to use baker's flag.
the committee eliminated the indigo stripe so they could divide the colors
evenly along the parade route - three colors on one side of the street and
three on the other. soon the six colors were incorporated into a six-striped
version that became popularized and that, today, is recognized by the
international congress of flag makers.
in san francisco, the rainbow flag is everywhere: it can be seen hanging
from apartment windows throughout the city (most notably in the castro
district), local bars frequently display the flag, and rainbow flag banners
are hung from lampposts on market street (san francisco's main avenue)
throughout pride month. visiting the city, one can not help but feel a
tremendous sense of pride at seeing this powerful symbol displayed so
prominently.
although the rainbow flag was initially used as a symbol of pride only in
san francisco, it has received increased visibility in recent years. today,
it is a frequent sight in a number of other cities as well - new york, west
hollywood, and amsterdam, among them. even in the twin cities, the flag
seems to be gaining in popularity. indeed, the rainbow flag reminds us that
ours is a diverse community - composed of people with a variety of
individual tastes of which we should all be proud.
sources used for this article were found at quatrefoil library in st. paul,
and include: "vexed by rainbows", by paul zomcheck, in "bay area reporter"
(june 26, 1986); "rainbow flag" in "the alyson almanac" (1989); and "the
rainbow flag", in "parade 90: san francisco gay/lesbian freedom day parade
and celebration" (june 24, 1990)

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at 10:18 am 08/10/99 , "sabrina d. parker" <parkers@civerolo.com> wrote:
>"new material wasn't a problem for the indigo
>girls, whose new album hits stores next week."
>
>am i missing something?  next week?  where did this guy get his
>information?

i dunno, i'm disregarding barring further evidence!

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>...and my gf was
>right on stage next to amy and stuck the camera out to snap a picture..
>the only down fall to the concert were the
>rude aisle dancers who block the view of everyone who spent time and $$$
>to
>get good seats..where's da respect?!?
let me get this right.
your girlfriend stuck out her camera and took a picture of amy at close
range, thereby blinding her by the flash.  but backtrack a second-- your
girlfriend was one of the scads of rude ones who hopped on the stage to
claim some undeserved glory for themselves, thereby scaring the hell out of
the wide-open and un-protected-by-screwy-security musicians up there?
and you're calling the aisle dancers rude?
uhh. ?
why don't *you* tell us where the respect is?

indeed.
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>like they were "petting" and getting very close to a & e who must have been
>a
>little taken aback, for lack of any better way to put it.

>stage crashing.  and from what i heard, it seems the security did nothing.

babs.  babs babs babs.
(i met babs.  hee)

petting was going on.  i distinctly saw some heavy emily petting up there.
as well as some distinct taken-aback-ness.  which apparently the petters
were just too tweaked out to notice, or just didn't give a rat's ass about.
oh, but security did do something-- they stood there laughing.

this is what i was talking about when i said "stupid little glittery
butterflied girls crawling all over themselves to glom on the indigo girls."

ahem.
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i am glad someone else saw that. guys remember the fishbowl philosophy? i
think it truly applies here. put yourself in their shoes for a bit. would
you like to have your personal space invaded like that. granted, i would
love to have a close pic like that, but i would like to have one taken with
permission and in the proper circumstances. nuff said thanks jill for
pointing it out first.

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>>...and my gf was
>>right on stage next to amy and stuck the camera out to snap a picture..
>>the only down fall to the concert were the
>>rude aisle dancers who block the view of everyone who spent time and $$$
>>to
>>get good seats..where's da respect?!?
>let me get this right.
>your girlfriend stuck out her camera and took a picture of amy at close
>range, thereby blinding her by the flash.  but backtrack a second-- your
>girlfriend was one of the scads of rude ones who hopped on the stage to
>claim some undeserved glory for themselves, thereby scaring the hell out of
>the wide-open and un-protected-by-screwy-security musicians up there?
>and you're calling the aisle dancers rude?
>uhh. ?
>why don't *you* tell us where the respect is?
>
>indeed.
>jill
>
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>a note on the opening act rose polanzani.  she was really good.
>surprisingly good.

well, of course she's good.
i tell no lies.
http://www.rosepolenzani.com (note the spelling?)
so good it hurts.

ouch.
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tara asked about the rainbow as a gay symbol...

i read a book a few years back that explained the
whole history, it's a great book about both san
francisco queer history and the specific experiences
of a lesbian couple concieving and giving birth to
their son, who was eventually second-parent adopted by
his "non-biological" mommy (author of the book).

basically, the rainbow flag came to be during the gay
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well, i have to say hello first off....i haven't written a review in quite
some time and i may be a little rusty.  by the way, if y'all are thinking
that my screen name sounds familiar but not quite it was changed. i used to
be wind80....i thought windigo had a better ring to it.
alright, let's get down to business.  so i personally went to the show with
pretty crappy seats but by some stroke of luck there were some front row
seats available on (get this) amy's side!!!!!!  can we say, "yeah i think
i'll take 'em."  anyway, the concert was rockin' and the girls looked like
they were having a great time!  the new band just added so much to the energy
level.  amy did a lot of jumping around and emily did a lot of her "look at
me i'm a rock star" smushy face while i solo on my electric guitar.  very
cute.  the new stuff sounds amazing.  i remember hearing bits and pieces of
it last summer and thinking that it had great potential but i was just blown
away by how it sounds with the band.  "go" was just 10x more incredible than
i ever thought it would be.  got some great up close pictures that i am
excited to get developed.....although, unfortunately i couldn't boot the
concert.  if there's anyone out there who did, please let us know.  so by the
time the end of the concert rolled around i was getting anxious.  as soon as
ig stepped off the stage i asked amy's guitar tech (not sure of his name, is
he new?) for her setlist.  after 9 concerts i finally scored her setlist and
i have never been happier.  so, for all of you who want to know what they
played in order, here it is:

cold beer
gone again
ghost
shame on you
least complicated
sister
peace tonight
tried to be true
get out the map
* a song with rose p. (a&e on vocals)
fay tucker (this is how she spelled it on the setlist - isn't it spelled
faye???)
love's recovery
trouble
go
galileo

encore:
cedar tree  (which was incredibly amazing with the cello and accordion)
closer to fine

overall a great concert and it really made me wish they would play around
here a little more often.  of course, we can't have everything.  :)

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sulli,

i missed my hug.

:(

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hello kind friends.  i'm sending deb my blank discs today to get the digital
9:30 bootleg rolling.  those of you who have been contacted about getting
cassette tape bootlegs can either go ahead as planned, or wait for further
instructions for the 2-disc set.  i will be treeing this bootleg to
hopefully 10 branches.  all branches must have cd-writer capabilities *and*
must know how to use it to make audio cds from a data cd with .wav files as
that is how deb suggests to avoid errors.  if you just got your writer, then
make sure you've thoroughly tested it before taking on this project.  all
branches must sign a pledge not to pirate this cd and must agree to make all
leaves do the same.  i know it sounds hokey, but lets face it - if you
pirate this cd - you're going to hell.  :)  okay - on with the
pleasantries....  branches who are chosen and sent a confirmation notice
will send me 2 cdr-ws and a self-addressed stamped padded envelope.  leaves
will be divided by the last digit of your social security number.  non-u.s.
leaves may get their discs directly from me.

okay so only contact me if you want to be a branch for this tree.  all
others, await further instructions.  over and out.

-tara

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hey all,
as some of you know, i make backgrounds from time to time out of pictures of
the girls and i was just wondering.....anybody got any new pictures posted?
or got any pictures scanned that they would be willing to contribute. since
i got all this time on my hands since i am unemployed i wanted to make a new
background. anyone who gives pics gets first dibs on the new backgrounds.
just let me know.

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so hey -

a & e were awesome!!!  loved the show...wowow!!

it was great to see you again jill - and it was fun to
meet diane and shelly too...yay - what's yer email
addys again?  i wished i could have hung out longer
after the show w yall - but my ride was anxious to get
outta there - wah.

anyhoo - as far as spac itself - i was disappointed in
how *strict* they were about bringing drinks and food
into the center...what a bummer.

take it easy yall...i wanted to write more about the
show...but i am one tired kid...*yawn*

xo
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totally agree with jill here...the stage hoppers were really brainless at
this point...the isle dancers may have been a bit rude...but how does that
compare jumping on stage???

jo

ps ...did anyone notice how enraged sulli was???  good job stage
jumpers...hope that picture comes out of amy at close range....
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>>...and my gf was
>>right on stage next to amy and stuck the camera out to snap a picture..
>>the only down fall to the concert were the
>>rude aisle dancers who block the view of everyone who spent time and $$$
>>to
>>get good seats..where's da respect?!?
>let me get this right.
>your girlfriend stuck out her camera and took a picture of amy at close
>range, thereby blinding her by the flash.  but backtrack a second-- your
>girlfriend was one of the scads of rude ones who hopped on the stage to
>claim some undeserved glory for themselves, thereby scaring the hell out of
>the wide-open and un-protected-by-screwy-security musicians up there?
>and you're calling the aisle dancers rude?
>uhh. ?
>why don't *you* tell us where the respect is?
>
>indeed.
>jill
>
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amy said last night at spac that it was due out "sometime in
september".....

tim

on tue, 10 aug 1999 08:18:47 -0600 "sabrina d. parker"
<parkers@civerolo.com> writes:
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> "new material wasn't a problem for the indigo
> girls, whose new album hits stores next week."
>
> am i missing something?  next week?  where did this guy get his
> information?

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> it was great to see you again jill - and it was fun
> to
> meet diane and shelly too...yay - what's yer email
> addys again?

and!!!!!  (duh me...)  babs!!!  good to see you again
as well!!!

take it easy
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black rites of passage t-shirt for sale
with album cover picture of amy and emily on front
and "rites of passage 1992 tour"written on back around a design.
only slightly worn,
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<< well, of course she's good.
i tell no lies.
http://www.rosepolenzani.com (note the spelling?)
so good it hurts. >>

i have to agree here.  and jill should know.  if you are lucky enough to be
at a show where rose opens, do yourself a favor and make sure you get there
early enough to see her.  she is a brilliant woman and has been called by
many in the music business "the real thing."

check out that web page and order some cds now so you can know how good she
is even before you see her!

jess byers

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>there was also a real danger to the
>instruments, and danger to the people

let me add that
the mobsters also looted the stage, taking with them picks, setlists, and
anything they could get their little hands on.  i saw one girl proudly
brandishing what appeared to be either part of a microphone or a capo.

it was indeed frightening.  like i think marivel said she did, i also tried
to stop people (like that was possible) from following the thundering herds
of teenaged estrogen.  i jumped into the aisle and started pulling these
crazed-eyed chicas back by the elbow, blocking them from running up,
swearing like the freak that i am.  maybe it was amusing to them, some
crazy-haired big loud italian girl bellowing, "no!  you will not go up
there." to the droves as they rushed by.  i don't know.  but they sure
didn't give a damn or listen.  talk about mob mentality.  the glazed gleam
in their eyes.  it was like the stepford concertgoers.

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i usually lurk and avoid any threads that are happening, but this one i have
to speak out on. i was at the waterloo show, which was wonderful until some
retarted people decided to charge the stage and security did not stop the
onslaught of idiots.

i've heard people on this list lament the fact that amy and emily seem a
little distant from and frightened by their adoring fans sometimes. i think
last friday night is a pretty clear indication of just why they fear large
groups of us.

amy and emily are talented women who share their voices and music with us.
that does not open them up to having people jump onstage while they are
performing, trying to grab the guitars out of their hands and grabbing at
their hair as if they were some kind of pets to be played with. i was
embarrassed, disturbed and frightened for them and their safety. i wish
people would think a little longer sometimes before they act. it might make
the world a safer place.

i actually yelled at some crazy chick next to me who felt the need to rip a
piece of tape off of one of the mic cords on the ground, simply because it
had emily's name written on it. i told her to leave it there, and she just
looked at me blankly and kept pulling it off.

i consider myself a real and true ig fan, but y'know what? when my life
degenerates to the point where i have to pull tape off of a mic cord to feel
a part of something, i need to get some professional help.

sorry for the tone- usually i'm pretty mild mannered but that whole mess just
got to me.

-dani

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can anybody tell me how to make the screen of the webcast larger?
amyc

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jude:

are you there?  are you there?

pls email me.

thanks,

melissa

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date:         tue, 10 aug 1999 23:55:22 -0400
reply-to:     rebecca lyon <beccie@websunshine.com>
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(climbing once again to the top of her well worn soap box)

ola guys and gals, once again i feel the need to climb up here and preach a
little. you know, i got online tonight and surfed around, granted i should
have been looking for job sites, but i spent most of the day doing just that
and i wanted a bit of brain candy to ease my worries.  so, i open my email,
and read more about the disaster that happened at the end of this concert.
you know, we get so caught up in our obsession over these two wonderful
women that we often loose site of what is truly important in life. the
freedom to live it.  how can we profess to understand the message in the
girls music when we as fans do things like this.  yeah it might have been
kewl if the girls had asked the fans to come on stage and join them, but you
know. if i were in their fishbowl, i would be scared shitless (pardon my
language guys.) if a horde of fans rushed the stage like that.  i admit that
to be that close to miss amy would be heaven, but not in that setting. my
idea of the perfect meeting with the girls would be cooking dinner for them,
relaxing with a bottle wine and just talking, not rushing the stage and
scaring the hell out of them. just talking and sharing intelligent
conversation.  you know the intelligence behind the talent is what drives
us. and yes i know amy's awesome looks puts more octane in the mixture, but
that is not all there is. please i beg of you all, if you are ever in a
situation where you can rush the stage like that, take a look at the deer
caught in the headlights look in their eyes and remember we are intimate
strangers but stranger none the less. would you like people ripping up stuff
around you and invading your personal space like that?  getting caught up in
the moment is one thing dear hearts, acting like the wild hordes of pan
(greek mythology reference) is quite another.  ok, ok i am stepping down
now. i do apologies for being so preachy, but reading about people bragging
about participating in this mass hysteria has got my dander up.  flame if
you must, but this is just my $.02 worth.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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your friend
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date:         wed, 11 aug 1999 00:26:51 -0400
reply-to:     havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com>
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subject:      mail problems.....

i haven't received any ig list mail at my msn address in over 24
hours......has anyone else been experiencing difficulties with msn????

also, i posted a lengthy review of yesterday's spac concert from another
address (havanamoon@juno.com) several hours ago and it doesn't seem to have
gone out to the list......i don't want to re-post it if it isn't
necessary.......

any information (to either address) would be appreciated......

tim

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hey, y'all.......

well, here i am with yet another email address......after suspecting that
msn was eating some of my list mail, i reactivated my old juno
account......i can't believe the amount of mail that was getting lost in
cyberspace......

the aching muscles in my back and legs can attest to the folly of driving
over 600 miles in a little 3-cylinder subaru justy.......but the smile on
my face today and the warm feeling in my heart is ample proof that the
pleasure was worth the pain.....

i started my eastward pilgrimage at about 11:45 am, to the accompaniment
of swamp ophelia and rites of passage.......i love listening to ig on a
long drive.......it seems i always hear something new with each concerted
listening.......

the first few hours were uneventful, but just east of palmyra, ny i
encountered what proved to be a 4 or 5 mile long stop-and-go
construction-related traffic backup......a half hour of repeated
clutching and braking......don't these people know i'm on  mission?????

switch to tape of sots with the po2 single and some of shades of
indigo........god, i'd love to see amy do 'sweet melissa'......

by the time i reached the outskirts of albany, the needle on my fuel
guage was fluctuating just above and below the 'e'.......i pulled into a
service plaza to refuel, but was too pumped to wait in line for the two
available pumps........there had to be another source of fuel
nearby........

i hadn't realized how close i was to the exit for rte. 87.......couldn't
have been more than a mile or so.......and i also didn't realize how many
cars were lined up at the toll booths........i anxiously watched my fuel
indicator convulse as i crept through the 2 mile long backup.......

switch to non-ig tape (80's vintage) of the washington squares and the
house of love......ws does a great harmonized version of 'the water is
wide' with a pennywhistle intro, ig-like harmonies, and an acoustic
guitar solo that could easily be emily's playing.......bliss.......

finally get through the toll and onto 87n only to find that seemingly
everyone is leaving albany at the same time.......i'm trapped in the
center lane with larger and more aggressive vehicles passing on my right,
unable (or unwilling) to see my frantic turn indicator.......exit upon
exit passes with no break in the traffic to allow me to refill my thirsty
beast.......i have visions of waiting fuelless by the side of the road as
the concert starts.......

finally, fortune smiles.......i refuel and arrive at spac a little before
6 pm, hoping to meet up with two friends i've known only as screen
names......indigobabs and kricky31......i had envisioned hordes of the
faithful lined up at the gate, but the parking lot was astonishingly
empty when i arrived......a brief thought flickers........i hope it
wasn't cancelled.......

i meander slowly onto the grounds, looking for 'cyber indigo' tags, but
there are none in sight, save for the one i have pinned to my bob marley
t-shirt.......i'm about to make my way to a vacant bench when i hear a
voice call 'tim?'........introductions are made and the pre-concert hours
pass quickly.......thanks to kris, we have excellent seats, 7 rows from
the stage on emily's side........

shortly before the show starts, we have visitors.......and three more
screen names.......diane, jilly and shelley........become familiar faces
and voices.........it's great to meet the real people behind those moving
posts.......

i have heard much about rose polenzani during the past year, but i've yet
to hear her music save for a futile attempt at realaudio.......i really
*need* a faster computer........her first song convinces me that i also
really *need* her cd.......her accompanist, 'goody', on loan from peter
mulvey's band, is an excellent slide guitarist and mandolin
player.......not flashy, but extremely tasteful.......his licks
complement her songs well.....

rose's 'worst fears' come true as she breaks a string during the first
song........she treats us to a soaring a capella rendition of 'til there
was you' while her guitar is being restrung........the rest of the set
passes without incident, and concludes with a chilling reading of
'dragersville' over goody's looped effects and volume swells.......the
two have certainly won over the uninitiated........

the crowd tension rises as the stage is set for amy and emily's
set......finally a huge cheer erupts as the band enters from stage
left.......and launches immediately into an unfamiliar song which i
eventually deduce is emily's 'cold beer and remote
control'........somewhere it is written that the kick drum in a rock band
has to assault the senses like a howitzer blast, and that the electric
bass can only be a few decibels lower than a sonic boom......it takes my
senses a bit to adjust to the volume level after rose's acoustic set, so
i can't comment too much on the song other than to say it rocked......

'gone again' was next.......a definite crowd pleaser.......the band was
extremely tight, and the accordian provided a welcome added
touch......the new album is definitely going to be another ig
classic......

emily's haunting rendition of 'ghost' moved me to tears with it's
beauty.......this day certainly underscored the many positive changes
that the girls have brought into my life through their music and their
larger commitments.......

'shame on you' and 'least complicated' were like old friends
revisited........it was great to feel the surge of energy pouring through
the crowd and hear so many voices raised in song.........

'sister' and 'peace tonight' were both well-received.......unfortunately,
i have no vivid memories of either save for amy's brooding vocal on
'sister'........there was just too much happening in a short time to
remember everything........

did i mention it was cold????  a chill wind swept through the crowd from
time to time for which neither my companions nor i were
well-prepared......well, actually, i had brought a flannel, but it was
locked up in the car and there was no re-entry allowed.......

'tried to be true' rocked as always......emily's electric guitar solo was
particularly impressive......

the crowd really got into 'get out the map'.......it seemed like the
energy level went up at least a couple of notches.......the heavy bass
line at times seemed to my ears a bit intrusive (more a matter of
personal preference than a serious artistic complaint).......

rose and goody returned to the stage and amy handed him her 1930's
vintage gibson mandolin, which he played beautifully on rose's song 'or',
with first amy and then both girls joining in on harmony.....

'faye tucker' seemed to drag a bit at the beginning.......again, that's
only a first impression......but the band really kicked it into overdrive
in the second half.......john reynolds, who was solid throughout on
drums, really impressed on this one.......the band is definitely as good
as others have said, and will undoubtedly get tighter as the tour
progresses.......

the other overall impression i got from the central characters is how
little amy and emily have changed since i first saw the latul video so
many year ago.......amy still sings with as much fire and passion as
ever, and emily still looks sweet and angelic.......and the
harmonies........god, i love those harmonies......

'love's recovery' with it's instantly recognizable guitar
lines.......emily really is a unique guitarist......another old friend
revisited.......

'kid fears'........the crowd was on fire.......i got to sing the michael
stipe part.......at least babs heard it.....

i draw an unfortunate blank on 'trouble', but 'go' seems to be another
instant classic for amy.......the band was outstanding on this one.......

what more can be said about 'galileo'????  to be among a crowd of several
hundred voices raised in song is something to behold........emily has
written so many wonderful anthems of hope........

encore........

babs and kris had forewarned me that 'cedar tree' would likely be a part
of the set and once again the band shone.........'the best you ever
had'.........

'closer to fine'.......is that closer (meaning nearer) or closer (the
ending number)?????  unfortunately, it was both........

after the show, i stopped by rose's concession booth to purchase her 2
cds and invited her to play in buffalo whenever it fits into her
schedule.......also had a brief chance to 'talk shop' with goody and
compliment him on his tasteful accompaniment.......he seems a genuinely
nice guy who is very happy to be a part of the tour.......

after vainly searching for a late night restaurant (all six of us were
famished), we reluctantly parted company........'1200 curfews' and 'back
on the bus y'all' provided the soundtrack for the homeward trip......

too bad it had to end.......but the memories will last......

thanks to all involved for one of the best days of my life........

peace, love, and harmony.....
tim

"wisdom is not knowledge......knowledge is not truth......
truth is not beauty........beauty is not love.......
love is not music........music is the best........"
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date:         tue, 10 aug 1999 23:35:54 -0400
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haven't they ever heard of telephoto lenses????

i think it was jill who pointed out a sign at spac with the word stanhope
inside one of those circles with the diagonal line.......

fortunately, the fans at spac were very respectful.......

tim

on tue, 10 aug 1999 12:56:43 -0400 rebecca lyon <beccie@websunshine.com>
writes:
> i am glad someone else saw that. guys remember the fishbowl
> philosophy? i
> think it truly applies here. put yourself in their shoes for a bit.
> would
> you like to have your personal space invaded like that. granted, i
> would
> love to have a close pic like that, but i would like to have one
> taken with
> permission and in the proper circumstances. nuff said thanks jill
> for
> pointing it out first.
>
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> peace love & indigo light
> your friend
> beccie lyon
>
> be consistent: live what you believe........
> from the book "anatomy of the spirit"> by caroline myss, ph.d.
>

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truth is not beauty........beauty is not love.......
love is not music........music is the best........"
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date:         tue, 10 aug 1999 22:37:04 pdt
reply-to:     doolittle all day <locisima@hotmail.com>
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i am a happy girl.  happyhappy.
i had a better time at the show tonight in columbus than the 2 in atlanta
because the people sitting around me were actually very cool! we were
closer, too...lower pavilion this time.  during kid fears my friend and i
and the 2 people right in front of us were the only ones in our area
standing.  we were going nuts (and pretending to be michael stipe :)) and
emily pointed up in our direction and she and amy kinda laughed.
i amused them. :)
oh, i'm a happy girl.

liz


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date:         wed, 11 aug 1999 01:59:28 -0400
reply-to:     "karen, the 'raging' feminist" <s00.krosenblum@wittenberg.edu>
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i'll admit it, i am a real world junkie.  therefore, i was searching mtv's
website tonight.  anyway, i was quite surprised to see the indigo girls
listed on their long list of bands.  i didn't even think that mtv
acknowledges the indigo girls existence!  but whatever.  anyway, there are
a few links to ig news and to see some of their video clips.  if anyone
is interested, you can find the site at:
http://www.mtv.com/nav/intro_shows.html
happy surfing,
karen :-)  (seeing the girls on the 19th!!!)
ps- sorry about the typos in this message.  my telnet is very slow, and i
don't have the patience to correct any of my mistakesd!

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date:         wed, 11 aug 1999 02:06:01 -0400
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will someone please post a setlist for this show?  i want to know exactly
what i missed <grumble grumble>.  oh well, the chicago show is pretty
soon...
:-) karen

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hey all,

i agree that stanhope ended horribly.  it is the lousiest place i've ever
seen a concert.

the tent was a large rectangle, with the stage on the wide side.  although i
was in the tent, the lawn seating looked worse.  50-60% of it sloped downhill
from the tent.  security was disorganized & misguided.   i think because the
site's so bad, they were intent on not allowing anyone to stand at the back
of the tent blocking the view from the only decent lawn seats.

then they weren't down front to keep the idiots from jumping the stage &
mauling the girls.  i loved seeing the girls & hearing the new tunes, but the
venue was bad.  i'll take newport in the rain any day!!

i'll be visiting the waterloo website shortly to express my sentiments
directly.  i know i won't physically go there again.

terri

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my sister and i made our way to the stage and spoke to sulli and a security
guard and they were totally not finished! sulli said they had two more songs
left!!!
>>>>>
after playing kid fears and then closer to fine, they might have had two
songs left?!?!  that makes me sick to here the possibility of a non-ctf
closer was lost!  i just hope the girls weren't too offended and will still
invite crowd interaction (ie., inviting a single person on stage) in the
date: sun, 15 aug 1999 14:41:00 +0000
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near future.

by they way, thanks to sulli for the guitar pick. i asked for the setlist
too, but the security guy got nasty and told us to leave.
>>>>>
regardless of whether it was amy, emily, sulli, or the person who get's
their bagels before shows - i hope no one was too angry b/c of the awful
situation.  i saw sulli during two lilith's and she was working her butt off
since time is so important with all those bands out there.  so remember,
they are doing all of this for us!!!  (preaching to the choir, sorry guys)

i just want to echo this sentiment by saying: thanks for everything a, e, &
sulli, and i hope we didn't ruin the summer for you!...  i feel like this is
a mini-woodstock incident... yuk!?!  i need to brush my teeth or something.

-mkc
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date:         wed, 11 aug 1999 09:13:51 -0400
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there's a new update on the epic website - artist news - check it out.

http://www.epiccenter.com/epiccenter/indigogirls/artistupdate.qry

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here you go guys here is the update from the site.

indigo girls return with come on now social due out september 28th on epic
records duo's most diverse and compelling album features new band and guest
appearances by joan osborne, sheryl crow, kate schellenbach, me'shell
ndegeocello

on september 28,1999, epic records proudly presents come on now social, the
new album by indigo girls.

indigo girls' previous album, shaming of the sun, entered the billboard top
albums chart at no. 7 in its debut week in may, 1997 and was certified gold
within a month of release.

come on now social, the seventh epic studio album by amy ray and emily
saliers, began as a jam session in london at the ghost rooms studio with the
respected musicians in the english band ghostland, which includes john
reynolds (sinead o'connor's drummer and musical collaborator), caroline dale
(cello), clare kenny (bass), and carol issacs (piano, accordion, organ,
moog). the excitement of working with an entirely new group of musicians
overseas, prompted the indigo girls to hire john reynolds as co-producer and
fly the group to southern tracks studio in atlanta to begin work in earnest
on the album.

the convergence of the new players influences, which range from reggae to
dub to world and pop, and indigo girls folk, appalachian and rock roots with
inspired contributions from lilith alums sheryl crow, joan osborne and
me'shell ndegeocello, resulted in a new and dynamic musical statement on the
album and the upcoming us and international tour.

come on now social contains twelve new songs, including the following:
"go" and "trouble," which adroitly blend the personal and the political in
two of the most exhilarating rockers in the indigo's catalog. with amy and
emily both on electric  guitars on "go", john reynolds on drums, and joan
osborne on background vocals, and malcolm burn adds a beat box to "trouble."

"gone again ," a timeless four-chord folk song written and sung by amy
(mandolin, acoustic guitar) who is joined by emily (banjo, backing vocal),
the band's garth hudson (organ) and rick danko (bass), jerry marotta (drums)
and sheryl crow (backing vocals).

"soon be to nothing" a deeply personal ballad written and sung by emily
saliers with both girls on acoustic guitar, clare kenny (bass, backing
vocals), caroline dale (cello, backing vocals), carol issacs (wurlitzer,
backing vocals), john reynolds (drums) and pamela stickney (theremin).

"fay tucker," written and sung by amy ray. on february 3, 1998, tucker
became the first woman to be executed by the state of texas since the civil
war. "fay tucker" includes amy and emily on acoustic guitars, the mournful
accordion of carol issacs, haunting celtic cello of caroline dale, and the
breathtaking singing of natacha atlas, a premiere arabic singer enjoying
commercial success across europe.

indigo girls, with john reynolds, clare kenny, caroline dale and carol
issacs, are on tour this summer with lilith fair. see tour section for dates
and details.


<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
peace love & indigo light
your friend
beccie lyon

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date:         wed, 11 aug 1999 11:09:47 -0700
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hey ya'll,
delurking to post a review--wow, what a show!  i've been to all three
liliths in columbus plus the one in wpb and this was by far the best.  i
hadn't bought seats 'cause the girls weren't going to play, so i had to
scrounge tix.  went down at noon and they released row p, which rocked.
spent the rest of the day chatting w/a woman named sheila, who had faith
and waited til 4:30, when they released front row center.   she got the
tix, her friend didn't know the girls, so i was front row center for them.
oh happy day.  but, to back up.  saw twink and peg at the second stage,
but not barb and don, who were stuck in the slow-as-molasses food line.
did they ever come back?  left them for the opening chords of the
pretenders.  ran is as chrissy yelled, "hey you pussies, get your beer and
get in your seats."  she rocked!  she was funny, in-your-face, playing to
the photographers, while all the while jamming for all she was worth.  and
while she was alternatively wowing the audience and giving them a hard
time, emily was in the wings bouncing and singing along.  too cute.  sarah
did this improv dance w/maracas (sp?)  to ,hmm, was it back on the chain
gang? anyway, it was a riot.  then an intermission, i move from row p to
row a--can i hear an amen--and out come the smiling girls.  fashion--amy,
black draw string cotton pants, black tank, cool, open, red button-down,
short-sleeved  shirt with some patches on it (like a bowling shirt); emily,
hmm, blue baggy pants, t-shirt, striped long sleeve shirt, sparkles on her
face.  set list:

shame on you/ get out the map/kid fears/cold beer & remote control/ fay
tucker/ galileo/go/love's recovery (w/sarah)/ctf (w/sarah)

they were in rare form.  laughing, making tons of eye contact.  they kept
laughing at this guy to my left, because he'd yell out the name of every
song at the first chord.  amy finally said, "do you have our set list?"  he
answered that he'd been following them for ten yrs--is this person out
there on the list?.  i was feeling a little competitive, i have to admit,
and in my head was thinking, 'hey! *i've followed them for 10 yrs and i'll
bet i've seen them in more states than you have!'  now that's all about
wanting them to be talking to *me* :)  but, it's nice when they talk to
anyone in the crowd.  i love when they're interactive.  i thought the crowd
was great throughout, dancing and singing.  sorry, but i just can't like
fay tucker; i'm so disappointed this is on the new cd instead of  "the boys
just laugh."  "go" was by far the highlight song for me, amy rocking with
her eyes closed and emily biting her lip as she played hard.  it's gotten
better and better.    their harmonies w/sarah on "lr" were really
beautiful, too.  i got a kick out of sulli (hmm, did i spell that
correctly?) early on in the show  because she was off to the side singing
and following  emily's guitar part as she held the guitar for a switch.  as
we all know, she is truly a wonderful person.  i asked for the set list
afterwards and she was running around like crazy, but took the time to stop
and throw it to me.  that made my night.  sheryl crow and sarah were both
great, but nothing could beat the girls for me.  fun, fun, fun.
lisa

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seriously, it's only life afterall."--emily saliers

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greetings to all in the land of indigo!

i was blown away by the performances at both nff and spac and am hoping that
someone booted these shows.  if so and you would like to make arrangements for
a trade etc, please let me know.  thanks.

take care and peace!

-deb

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hey all!!

i'm feeling great this morning after seeing the girls again.  it's been a
long winter/spring without them.  lisa pretty much posted everything i was
going to say about the show (nice job, lisa - sorry i didn't get to meet you).

it was great seeing don, peg and deidre. and this year i got to meet barb but
not twink - last year i met twink but not barb. i guess that means there will
have to be another columbus meet so i can see the two of you together.
missed you carol - was looking for you though.

i do have one minor point of disagreement with lisa's review - i loved faye
tucker. i thought it was awesome hearing it live and am eagerly looking
forward to hearing it on the new album.  a security guard was telling me
about an encounter he had with amy and emily - he went up to two women who
were standing in the aisle and asked them to move to some seats since they
couldn't just be standing like that. they politely told him they were
performers, and he said "which group" and they said "indigo girls" and showed
him their passes. he said, "oh, i love your music but didn't know what you
looked like" and apologized to them. he said they were really cool about it
and said no problem!

i managed to sneak my 35mm camera and zoom lens in - for anyone who wants a
tip - wear a baggy shirt and take the zoom off of the body. stick them both
down your pants/shorts and voila - you're in. it helps if you're rather, um,
well-endowed. then you don't have these protrusions coming from your belly!
lol.

enjoy the show in cinci everyone and keep those reviews coming in!
take care,
leslie

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date:         wed, 11 aug 1999 11:48:38 edt
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***who were stuck in the slow-as-molasses food line.***
yeah...slowest line ever....missed all of deborah cox while waiting in that
line.....

***  ran is as chrissy yelled, "hey you pussies, get your beer and
get in your seats."  she rocked!  she was funny, in-your-face, playing to
the photographers, while all the while jamming for all she was worth. ***
oooh, and she said the indigo girls were sexy :)

***shame on you/ get out the map/kid fears/cold beer & remote control/ fay
tucker/ galileo/go/love's recovery (w/sarah)/ctf (w/sarah)***

my disconnected thoughts....

gotm was fun cuz they brought out the drummer chick for badi assad i think.
she was a brasilian chica who was soo good.

how do people get such good seats?   ugh, i just don't understand!  i
realized part of the way through the set that the last time i saw them, it
was sst and i was 1 person from the stage....
its tricky that way!

i was kinda hoping for some more jam sessions, but i guess that the band is
probably not ready for that sort of thing.
i loved the jig at the end of fay tucker.  it seemed like my friend tim even
enjoyed that part, and he'd pretend to not like them to spite me, i bet....
(he would, he's just that way- ask jill!)

i was hoping for more collaboration, but i figured it was only their 3rd lf
so far this year, and they were not consecutive dates, so they didn't have
time.  i wanted to hear ttbt w/ sheryl and water is wide. but i'll live....

their set was shorter than last year, though i guess they were stretching it
last year on purpose, they played one less song and no big long jams....

hmmm, crowd wasn't too into it, so it didn't seem as exciting....

amy looked buff when she took of the bowling shirt and was just in the
tank-top....
couldn't see her highlights from my distance, though i could see it looked
lighter....

only sarah on ctf!!  yikes!  i was hoping for at least a few more people!!

i was hoping for gone again, but maybe they remembered that they played it
last year, so they should play different.  but i doubt they'd remember old
set lists like me,...

the final encore song was cute, and amy was moving around so much.  i think
she *does* have add & hd!!   hee, she dosn't know what to do w/ herself when
she dosn't have an instrument! i don't think either of them got a verse on
the song, but you could hear them over it, and they had a verse together w/
maybe one other person whom i oculdn't  make out from my distance.....

sarah is good when your sick.  i was starting to get the chills and my head
was hurting and my throat was hurting by the end of the night pretty bad
(damn, can getting mono make my tonsils get bad every time i get sick
now?)...but sarah's music can be soothing....
i just closed my eyes and let my head sway to my body's natural frequency
(people probably thought i was some crazed fan who was being overcome or
something, but really, i just felt like crap).
it was wonderful to zone out to her music.  i'd like to suggest that if
you're sick, go see sarah cuz she's a great remedy.

yadda yadda,
carol


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ha, ha!  yea, we finally got back from the slower-than-snails food line!  never knew
mcdonald's could be that expensive!  but anyway, i have to say the show really rocked!
unfortunately, we were in line the entire time that the pretenders were on, but we'll be
catching up with the rest of the show that we missed yesterday when we make it to the
cincinnati today... yaaa!

the girls were absolutely fabulous and i loved the new songs.  i have to say that i really
liked the fay tucker song, but go was a highlight for me, too.  even better than the
version on no boundaries.  we were sitting next to a couple of girls who were there for
hole (can't believe that all of the printed schedules still had hole on them and no
mention of the girls!) but they didn't seem disappointed at all after hearing the girls!
:)

i was very impressed with sheryl crow, and i really loved sarah!  she made a couple of
cute comments last night... one about being sick and not being able to perform at last
year's lilith, and the other comment was when she told a story about getting "flashed" by
this really conservative looking woman in a previous show.  now, twink and i didn't have
as great as tickets as tat (girl, you really lucked out!) but i think that someone flashed
sarah just as she was telling this story!  her reaction was totally priceless!

all in all, a great show and we're getting psyched for the cinci lilith now!  peg and i
got to meet leslie, and saw carol ann (call me carol), betty ann nagy and her friend chris
(?), and a big hello to caroline and don is sorry we missed cathy and becky from
youngstown.  but we won't miss chrissy hynde this time... think we'll wait to get in the
food line later!

barb
(the other side of twink)

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hey, y'all......

everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, but this post from the ig
newsgroup struck me as being excessively cruel, especially in his
treatment of rose.......

tim

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<<  i just got back from saratoga new york and i couldnt wait to read the
reviews of those who attended. i am amazed at how differently people can
view the same event. i thought  the concert was just barely average.

during the past few months i have really become a fan of their music and
therefore couldnt wait to drive to new york to see them live.

the show opened with a girl named rose who rated high on enthusiasm and
somewhat wanting in talent in my humble opinion. she certainly seemed
nice enough but her music was ordinary at best and i felt she was
received with a luke warm reception. many people were talking during her
set and several around me expressed confusion as to why she was asked to
perform. after the first song she broke a string on her guitar and while
it was being repaired for some inexplicable reason she belted out a show
tune acappella to fill in the time. from there it went down hill. she
went on and on and on for what seemed like an hour. as an example of
how profound some of the songs were, she sang a song about a dream in
which she castrated some guy ( i think it was a burglar) for taking her
orange crush soda. her only redemtion came halfway through the main show
when she sang a song in which amy and emily provided background harmony.
it really was three part harmony at its best. rose may be a budding star
who will impact the music world some day but she is not yet ready for
prime time.

after the indigo girls finally got started, it didnt take long before i
realized that the person running the sound must have been asleep. in
many songs the words were drowned out by the music and their beautiful
harmonies could not be heard. i felt as though emily got off to a slow
start with "ghost" but quickly recovered and that was a highlight of the
show. in my opinion the best performed song in the show was "loves
recovery" which was positively beautiful. as far as the new songs, the
only words which i was able to decipher were faye tucker. i think there
was also a derogatory reference to george bush but im not certain about
that.

believe me, i think that the indigo girls are enormously talented and
are capable of putting on a much better concert.  >>

"wisdom is not knowledge......knowledge is not truth......
truth is not beauty........beauty is not love.......
love is not music........music is the best........"
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>http://www.globe.com/dailyglobe2/221/living/newport_festival_gets_wet_and_
mild+.shtml
>
>music review
>newport festival gets wet and mild
>
>by joan anderman, globe correspondent, 08/09/99
>
>    ewport, r.i. - a torrential morning downpour soaked the throngs
>    and turned the field at fort adams into a massive mud puddle
>yesterday, but the newport folk festival fans proved themselves as hardy
>and enduring as the music they were here to celebrate. truth be told, neither
>the scene nor the songs much resembled the pure, unified musical/
>
>political force folk was three decades ago. but the essence, though
>splintered and splayed in a dozen directions, is intact. jeff tweedy,
frontman
>for wilco, which played newport for the first time this year, summed it up
>nicely backstage after a stellar set that skewered the kicked-back ambience
>with bursts of roiling textures and shredded screams. '''misunderstood,''' he
>said, ''is a two-chord, lyric-driven folk song that just happens to have some
>noise in it.''
>
>it was, in the words of another wilco tune, a shot in the arm during
>saturday's largely sedate offerings. in like kind, the one-woman force of
>nature, melissa ferrick, scratched and plunged through a fiery set, armed
>with only six strings and a melody. britain's beth orton, as well,
transformed
>the traditionally earthy, linear form with hypnotic cycles of sound; her
>fractured, gauzy voice has never been fuller or bolder. and in a newport
>first, ben cohen, the exuberant half of the ice cream team, pulled off a
>cutting-edge pete seeger/busta rhymes fusion - rapping about the need to
>redirect pentagon funds into children's programs.
>
>just under 6,000 fans were otherwise serenaded by performers that were
>solid, reliable, and only occasionally inspiring. catie curtis's
folk-rock was
>spry and smart, martin sexton's acoustic soul-folk was heartfelt, raw, and
>buoyed by the smashing drum kit. robert earl keen jr. channeled texas
>roadhouse via singer-songwriter 101, and the legendary irish singer mary
>black offered a pretty, bland set of pop that was, oddly, only vaguely
celtic.
>there was never anything particularly folk-y about joan armatrading,
>beloved figure though she is, and her clean, polished set sounded more
>dated than classic.
>
>some 900 lucky folks were treated to a genuinely spine-tingling performance
>friday night at the viking hotel ballroom. folk supergroup cry cry cry
>(dar williams, lucy kaplansky, richard shindell) opened the festival on a
>blissfully high note by way of endlessly gorgeous notes woven into perfect
>harmonies. northampton's nerissa and katryna nields opened the show in
>the tradition of lovably inscrutable sister acts like the roches and the
>mcgarrigles.
>
>yesterday's rain visibly dampened spirits - and clothing: one industrious
>representative of the newport yachting museum made a pretty penny
>selling plastic garbage bags for a buck. poor jennifer kimball valiantly
>opened the fort stage while it was still pouring, but her set seemed sober in
>direct correlation with the sober, sopping audience. (she shone, as did the
>sun, on the harbor stage later.) they were raising emergency rain gutters
>onstage while ellis paul played, but he managed to defy the elements with his
>richly literate, rousing folk-pop.
>
>it was patty griffin and susan tedeschi, however - in back-to-back
>incendiary sets - that fully restored morale. griffin's early acoustic roots
>qualify her as a folk artist, but she was beyond plugged-in yesterday,
>careering through songs that were as haunting and beautiful as they were
>hard and loud. and tedeschi is, quite simply, the genuine blues article
in the
>unlikeliest package. when the petite blond opened her mouth, something
>approximating janis joplin, bonnie raitt, and etta james flew out. she
>deserves the title keeper of the flame as much as the three who played
>under that name the night before at the viking's bellevue room: newport's
>own country-blues whiz paul geremia, memphis bluesman alvin
>youngblood hart, who stole the show, and bill morrissey.
>
>the later half of the day was a veritable rainbow coalition of styles. texas
>maverick steve earle's sharp left turn into old-time bluegrass wasn't as
>jarring as the fact that he and his back-porch posse of players (including
>20-year-old fiddler and berklee student casey driessen) - all five circled
>tightly around a single microphone - followed ladysmith black mambazo's
>deeply rhythmic, utterly pristine, magic carpet of vocalizing. after that,
>suzanne vega - whose dark, arty aura and dark, arty sunglasses preceded
>her - surprised with a set of simply stated folk, accompanied only by a
>bassist and her own acoustic guitar.
>
>but there's no question yesterday's near-sellout crowd of 9,500 braved the
>relentless showers for their beloved indigo girls, who, after nearly a decade
>headlining here, have become icons forthe modern-era newport festival.
>supported by a brand-new band, they previewed a handful of songs from
>their new album, due out next month, served fans some old favorites, and,
>by virtue of a career that has seamlessly woven good politics and good song,
>traced a bold line from the beginning of this legendary festival to the
edge of
>the millennium. ''the best of that time was the idea that music was made by
>social activists who got together and played for the love of it,'' said
indigo
>girl emily saliers just before taking the stage. ''newport still has that
same
>spirit of camaraderie.''
>
>this story ran on page c6 of the boston globe on 08/09/99.
>ę copyright 1999 globe newspaper company.


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lisa tatonetti wrote:

> they were in rare form.  laughing, making tons of eye contact.  they kept
> laughing at this guy to my left, because he'd yell out the name of every
> song at the first chord.  amy finally said, "do you have our set list?"

this made me chuckle to read because i do the same thing with my friend thea
<http://listen.to/thea> whenever she starts to play an indigo girls song.
she'll get maybe two chords out before i let out a "yes!".  then she'll look at
me weird and say "how do *you* know which song i'm going to play?"  i just do.
it also helps that she only plays about ten or so of their songs.  still, i
think i'm pretty good with that figuring out the song from the first couple of
chords thing.  and with thea, as soon as she pulls out the 12-string, i know
it's going to be dead man's hill (which she totally rocks out on).

:)
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at 11:35 am 08/11/99 , ndigogrls@aol.com wrote:
>i do have one minor point of disagreement with lisa's review - i loved faye
>tucker. i thought it was awesome hearing it live and am eagerly looking
>forward to hearing it on the new album.

ft is the one new amy song that i don't like at all... not yet, anyway.

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well, i have a friend checking on what is happening
with those of us who hold msn accounts losing our ig
mail. i'll post the findings when he has some.

so anyway, thanks to tara for bringing me up to date.
what is with these young whippersnappers these days?
did they mistake waterloo for woodstock and figured
that gave them the rights to act like morons? one of
the most important ways to show our fandom is to show
respect for the girls. the stage is their personal
space and should be treated as such. no one has the
right to invade that space and if asked into that
sanctum sanctorum by the girls, should only enter with
the utmost respect, not running up to them and scaring
the bejeezus out of them. that makes it worse for the
rest of us. don't they think the girls will become
more closed off? well, i know several others have
posted their opinions and they have already said
everything i just meant to say about that situation.

anyway, i just hope this makes it to the list.

ryan
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i've resisted posting to this list for too long, and now i feel i must say
something. this is not in any way directed to all peoples on this list, but
to those of you whom have been acting irresponsible and uncaring towards the
two women who have, through their music, contributed so selflessly to all of
our lives. i feel this list sometimes loses sight of what it's really about.
i gratefully thank those of you who speak about the music, and create
fundraisers for non-profit organizations. however, i feel the definition of
"fan" has often been trampled for the sake of a touch, or a picture.

i've been hearing a lot about what's been happening recently and wonder what
the cause of all of this is. let me say this email is not in any way
influenced by the indigo girls, these are merely my thoughts and concerns
about how things are getting out of hand. traveling and being able to hear
thoughts and opinions from ig fans, i get the sense that many of you feel
they owe you something. let me just say, these women work their fingers to
the bone and spend more time on the road than they do at home, not only for
music and charity, but mainly for their fans. they don't spend month upon
month on tour just because it's fun to sleep on a bus and breathe in that
recirculated air while they sleep, causing them to wake up with sore throats,
still managing to put on amazing shows. they do not owe you anything. they
are doing the performance for you. they do not owe you a pic, they do not owe
you some mangy piece of tape with their name on it, and they definitely do
not owe you time onstage. you are the ones who owe them for those lonely
nights where their music has enlightened your life. it's been so long since
their music was actually discussed on this list, and i don't count strings
such as "what is your fav ig song to make love to."  all i'm saying is think
before you do. do you honestly think either one of these women are going to
want to give you the time of day if you sabotage their performance and make
them leave early because they fear for their safety? don't you sometimes
wonder why they don't have as much small talk onstage as they used to? gee,
maybe it is because they've had to draw a line between themselves and the
over-zealous people who literally frighten them to the point where they don't
want to play anymore. i just want to know, is that what you all want? a
record every year or two, maybe a vh1 special every now and then, but that's
all? these women do this because they love it. do you honestly think they
will keep doing this when it isn't fun anymore? if any more of these
uncontrollable situations surface, i have a feeling it's not going to be.
both of these women have given themselves to so much. i just feel this needed
to be said. some of you seem to have forgotten.

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okay, you're preaching to the converted here...

and we do get the point:  jumping on stage-bad, privacy-good.

i don't really see why anything more needs to be posted on-list about the
stage crashers, most of whom are not on this list, and won't read our
words of wisdom. it sounds to me like most listees were trying to stop it.

g.

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hey all.
can someone post or send me the setlist for friday's waterloo show?
thanks!
jami

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hkf's.......

one of the highlights of spac for me was finally meeting shelley and
receiving a copy of her recently completed demo tape, the random farm
sessions........i am totally blown away.......she has an incredibly
expressive voice, and the music shows tremendous range and diversity,
from the opening lament of rose polenzani's 'omen', to the spoken word
intensity (backed with ethereal voices) of 'time keeping', to the
joplinesque blues-wailing of 'two by two' (co-written by shel and phillip
solomonson,her sympathetic accompanist), where shelley's voice is most
definitely living in clip.....

shelley wrote or co-wrote five of the eight tracks.......'follow' would
not sound out of place on an ani release circa out of range or not a
pretty girl......phillip adds nicely understated vocal echoes and
harmonies to shelley's sensitive vocal........'hey, hey' has a hypnotic
quality to it, and displays yet another aspect of shelley's vocal
prowess......

'imitation of the blues' starts out with a chord sequence reminiscent of
all along the watchtower (which shelley briefly quotes at one
point.....watch out for that high note at the end of the
segment)......the traditional 'shame and scandal' has shel and phillip
exploring yet another musical genre as shelley's voice soars above
phillip's baritone.....

shelley's 'star grace' closes the demo with a moody etherealism before
she launches into what may be her most impassioned vocal performance,
bringing all of her many talents to the fore in a vocal tour de force
that is breathless in its intensity.......

i feel privileged........

peace, love, and harmony.......
tim

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truth is not beauty........beauty is not love.......
love is not music........music is the best........"
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hi all,

i'm new to the list - i sent a greeting message the other day but i think i
sent it incorrectly to only one person. now i got it!

i am so happy to "meet" you folks. i joined the list after the waterloo
concert because i was really upset by that experience, and i wanted to find
out what ig fans were thinking about these days. you guys have made me feel
so much better!

the fan thing is so interesting. tens or hundreds of thousands of intimate
strangers who feel a real connection to one or two women... amy and emily
seem so open and approachable (and i'm sure they are!), but even though i'm
sure they could be really good friends with most of us if the opportunity
only came up (!), it just can't - not for the vast majority of us, and we
shouldn't seek it or expect it. yet somehow we feel the urge to take some
kind of little piece of them to say we touched the same thing they did,
like that will somehow make us closer to them. i think when we feel those
urges we ought to step back and get some perspective - they give us their
wonderful music! that's the the really valuable piece of them that enriches
our lives. and we can have it anytime we want. we need to look around us
for relationships; i'm sure we all know people just as wonderful as amy and
emily and that's where we should focus our energy. it's even better when
those people love the girls like we do...  i'm glad i know of a place to
hang out with folks who feel that way too - y'all are great.

btw - any guitar players from ct out there who know the girls' stuff? i
learned to play guitar 10 yrs ago after i first heard closer to fine (in
the shower, 7:30 am, march '89, providence, ri). i'd love to find someone
else to play the other part!

-sue

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hey kind friends,
  haven't seen too many newport reviews out yet?  i will try to get
mine out this week.  had a blast - was so nice to be allowed to calmly
walk up to the stage and take a picture (nothing like that mess at
spac).
  anyway, while i was out last night, i came across a great cd, which i
of course bought.  it is called "lesbian favorites: women like us."
  can i just tell you i was shocked to find this cd in my little town.
anyway, picked it up and it has some really good songs and artists on
it.  from being on this list i actually recognized names such as: ani
defranco, kristen hall, dar williams, disappear fear, and ferron.
there are 18 songs with some well known artists and mostly well known
songs.
  in the inside, tho, there is a little box that says "songs we
couldn't license" which listed: ig, me, as well as others.  oh well.
  so, if you don't own, or haven't looked for the cd, go get it.  it is
well worth it.
  later -

stephanie

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susan darlin you are a lovingly welcome addition to the list keep up the
wonderful insightful posts.  we are all here because we love and appreciate
the music and the girls who have created such soulful heart speaking music.
feel free to post again with more intelligent thoughts.

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ok,
we have all grumbled and mumbled about things and in the spirit of fairness
to all i am bringing a new thread to the list.  i would like to know
everyone's thoughts about the religious theme that runs through amy and
emily's lyrics. especially songs like welcome me, and blood and fire.  since
miss amy was a religion major at emory and miss emily is a preacher's
daughter, it make for interesting banter about the religious references that
peak through the lyrics. any thoughts or comments.  gauntlet
dropped.......peering about to see who will pick it up for the next leg of
the race........

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> for those of you in atlanta......

> amanda garrigues at the atlantis music conference!!
>
> thursday, august 12
> aurora coffeehouse
> 468 moreland avenue
> (404) 523-6856
> 7:00 pm - sharp
>
> tell your friends.  tell them to tell their friends.  be there.
> ********************************************
> need more info? go to: http://www.amandagarrigues.com
> want to chat? go to amanda@amandagarrigues.com or amanda@indiegrrl.com

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is there a kind soul who could tell me what is going on with the boots?  yes
i heard/read what was writtem earlier.  i am unfortuantly debating the idea
of participating in the bootlegging do to legal reasons and my mother who is
still legally incharge.  in a month that will be a different story because i
will be in college and i will be poorer.

    so the basis is i want to know what boots are being made at the moment?

                thanks
            tat

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forgot to put a subject on my last posting

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there's a new girl in town.....
ok. it's 9:56pm wed. night and i have finally decided, after sifting through
about 30 list members emails to take the plunge and do a little posting of my
own. as you may have guessed, i am new to this whole list thing, and i felt it
best to remain a silent, cautious observer before i dove into this new and
exciting world of ig comraderie.... but i can contain myslef no longer. it is
so exciting to know that (ssshhhhhhh)
there are other people out there who love ig as much as i do!!!!!
this knowledge makes me want to throw my head back and laugh outloud! it is
exhilerating! of course i know that the girls have an enormous die-hard fan
following, but of my circle of friends there are only 3 ig lovers....(sad,
isn't it?  i am in the constant process of converting 'the others')
so it's nice to hear how much others love and respect the girls.
by the way, i was at newport and even though i've never seen that much water
in one place in my life and didnt dry off until we were in the car headed
home, i had a blast and ig rocked as usual. and wasnt amy spicy by sporting a
tank top?? for those of you there, i was wearing a black daemon records t
shirt... any of you see me? =0)
uuuuuuuuummmmmm, what other bits of wit and wisdom can i toss your way.....
oh, to bazmac27 (forgive me, i didnt catch the name, but i scrawled down the
address b/c i was going to send a private email - this was before i mustered
up the courage to post post post! i feel liberated!!!)
anyway, i wanted to say i agree with what you said in your message..... it
certainly made me think. i was fortunate enough to have my pic. taken with the
girls at a dc press conference for no nukes, and at the concert later that
night amy was practically attacked and smothered by a 14 year old and she
looked terrified, naturally.... as happy i was to have had the pic. taken with
them, im glad i got it without freaking them out! now im just thinking while
typing (t.w.t.) which could be dangerous, so i'll stop!
also, to susan from yale, im from ct and would love to ig jam with someone....
i go to school in dc though...
well, if anyone's still with me, it's a pleasure to meet you.
andy, i hope you enjoyed this (he's one of the 3 ig lovers previously
mentioned.)
anyone with newport boots, i'd be happy to do business with you.....
i think that's about all for now, so heave a sigh of relief. in closing, i
cannot wait for the new album to come out. whoever's in dc at the time will
have to stop by for an ig party............
goodnight everyone
thanks.
(i say thank you habitually - often for no reason! i guess i said it b/c im
new and i feel like an 8 year old who was permitted to play jumprope with the
'cool kids' at recess!!)
well, thanks again!
-karen

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it is so wonderful that the new people are jumping in and posting such
electrified posts to the list. i feel like it is coming alive again. i am
loving this activity. who knew that a disaster could stir such intelligent
conversation....wait what i am saying this is a list of indigo girls fans,
of course it would do just that. to all of you newbies welcome little
darlins i know that i am thrilled to see your posts and i am sure that the
other older members are as well. post away dear hearts post away.

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in a message dated 8/10/99 7:19:02 pm eastern daylight time, jess913@aol.com
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<< << well, of course she's good.
  i tell no lies.
  http://www.rosepolenzani.com (note the spelling?)
  so good it hurts. >>

i have to agree here.  and jill should know.  if you are lucky enough to be
at a show where rose opens, do yourself a favor and make sure you get there
early enough to see her.  she is a brilliant woman and has been called by
many in the music business "the real thing."
  >>


this isn't a "me too" post - technically, it's a "me three" post. i had to
add my response to hearing rose for the first time at her performance in
solon, oh last wednesday.  i sent a response to the list, but duh, i only
emailed it to jill.  rose is awesome!!!! i've been hearing rave reviews on
the big list for some time and now i know why.  i was kind of worried that
her performance wouldn't live up to my expectations, but they did.  i bought
her cd "anybody" that night, and actually was a little disappointed because i
don't think it shows off her full range. so i'm going to order her first one
- that should satisfy me until i can get a boot of one of her live
performances!

check out rose's website to hear some samples of her work and jill will keep
the list posted as to her touring schedule - oberlin on sept. 20, right jill?

take care,
leslie

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beccie raised the discussion of all the religious references throughout
ig's work.  emily's wood song has strong references to noah's ark and hey
jesus is an open prayer.  amy tends to use more spirit-like phrasing in
songs like jonas and ezekiel and hand me downs.
i see ig's music as more spiritual than religious, which reminds me, i was
looking through a book the other day that explained different word
meanings.  i went straight to indigo and it stands for wisdom and
spiritual awakening, sounds pretty right to me.

maddie


on wed, 11 aug 1999, rebecca lyon wrote:

> ok,
> we have all grumbled and mumbled about things and in the spirit of fairness
> to all i am bringing a new thread to the list.  i would like to know
> everyone's thoughts about the religious theme that runs through amy and
> emily's lyrics. especially songs like welcome me, and blood and fire.  since
> miss amy was a religion major at emory and miss emily is a preacher's
> daughter, it make for interesting banter about the religious references that
> peak through the lyrics. any thoughts or comments.  gauntlet
> dropped.......peering about to see who will pick it up for the next leg of
> the race........
>
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> your friend
> beccie lyon
>
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yeah !
and what about how those fans killed tiny tim at bumbershoot
a couple of years ago !!!!!!! remember, how everyone thought ig was
gonna be the wild card at the small stage so they packed the venue, then
audibly groaned when it was actually tiny tim and not ig upon which a
mass exodus ensued.... the poor man died a few days later, clearly it was
a broken heart.
tiny tim .......killed by ig fans

just terrrible.
i'm appalled.

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    k...  a month or so ago, there was a listee that was going to tree this
tape, or actually, begin the branching process of it.  i can't remember who
it was though.
      so, to the gal that volunteered to get the ball rolling on this tree,
could you e-mail me privately?  i volunteered to be a branch and sent you a
blank tape & a sase, but haven't heard anything from you since.  just wanted
to touch base.
    ( :  jennifer - jenindgo@aol.com

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i noticed that no one else had plugged the new catie curtis
album yet, soooo...it's called "a crash course in roses", and
to be fair, i haven't listened to enough of it yet to provide an
accurate/honest review, but on the whole it sounds more
textured than even her last one.  and it has some
nifty guest artists like melissa ferrick (yay!) and jennifer
kimball.  so run out and get it--i know tower carries it. =)
peace, y'all...
- ponygrrrl

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indigopony@aol.com wrote:
> it's called "a crash course in roses", and
> to be fair, i haven't listened to enough of it yet to provide an
> accurate/honest review

i have it and love it - but i won't provide a detailed review.  just get
it and listen.  it's great.  it's catie, what more do you need?  :)
her melodies and lyrics . . . smooth and soft or bouncy and
upbeat . . . .  please get it.  you won't be sorry.

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hey list- i don't post often, but i thought this thread was particularly
deserving. i might have run into a few of you at newport, although i didn't
introduce myself. i was wearing the ridiculous orange shirt with the palm
trees on it, sitting kind of on amy's side between ther two poles up front.
anyway, as a huge catie fan, i have to tell you all to go get her new cd, or
anthing of hers you can get your hands on for that matter. the songs on
"roses" are incredible, although after hearing them live for so long they do
sound a little flat. if you ever get the chance to see her live you'd be a
fool to pass it up.
on to some igc, sort of. i was at the p-town women's music festival on
tuesday night, and catie told us about getting to sing ctf with amy and
emily ay newport. she said she didn't really know that she'd be the only
other performer joining them on stage and was honestly terrified to be up
there. she had agreed with emily before hand to sing the third verse, but
when the time came she said it sounded like they still wanted to jam for a
while so she didn't start singing and emily kind of looked at her like "what
the heck are you doing??". anyone who was there in the audience i'm sure
could tell she was a little floored by the whole experience. it was great to
hear people cheering for her and to know that people actually know who she
is, usually when i mention her i get only blank stares.
anyway, i just wanted to throw in my thoughts on the adorable and charming
ms. curtis and urge you all to check out her new album.
have a great day,
karen


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re: new thread

hello all!  *smiles big* i usually lurk (having only been here a short time) so
it?s nice to finally get over some of my newbie shyness and say somethin?. this
is something i?ve thought about for a long time? ever since i started listening
to the girls? back sometime in ?88 or ?89.  it?s easier for me to explain what
it is by describing where i?m at, so here goes (i?ll try to make it a short
list).

amy and emily?s music goes so well with my own spirituality that it?s as close
to ?religious? as i get, most days.  i?ve been a born-again christian, a ?bad?
buddhist, and a somewhat-confused pagan in my quest for a higher love.  i
spiritual matters, i try to ?think with my heart?.  my main quarrel with
christians (other than history itself) came with the exclusivity of their
beliefs.  all i could agree to wholeheartedly was ?god is love and the rest is
up for debate.?  most people in my conservatively religious hometown did not
agree with that.  i had (and still have) a difficult time with a god who would
send gandhi to hell because he did not embrace christ.

likewise, i am firmly convinced that jesus had a lot of great things to say, and
gave them to us, and we ended up making an icon of a book we were supposed to
read and interpret for ourselves (as if some put the christian bible on an altar
and worship it, instead of actually opening it, and reading what?s in it, taking
into consideration that it?s all probably one big metaphor anyway.) i like
mother theresa?s take on it: ?if you are judging someone, you have no time to
love them.?

i still go to church sometimes (one which practices acceptance and celebration
of differences), but i am just as likely to take a walk in the woods down by the
river, or meditate, or cast a sacred space and light candles and pray.  it?s my
path.  i don?t know yours, nor anyone else?s but my own, and that?s only if i?m
lucky.  but i hope your journey is going well.

so, to bring this back to the girls, i get what i need most times, from their
songs.  i wish i could say ?thank you? enough for it.  i can?t.  so, i?ll just
close this post with some of their wisdom, which i regard as an echo of a higher
one, and dearly close to my own:  ?a lesson learned, a loving god and things in
their own time, in nothing more do i trust.?  ??with a love that passes all our
understanding, watching closely over the journey.?  ?when you learn to love
yourself, you will dissolve all the stones that are cast. you will learn to burn
the icing sky and melt the waxen mask.  to have the gift of true release, this
is a peace that will take you higher. i come to you with my offering; i bring
you strange fire.?

may that strange fire that burns in all of us warm your spirits and light your
way, today and always, kind friends.

love, peace and beautiful harmonies,

deb (loba)

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in a message dated 7/26/99 6:30:30 pm eastern daylight time,
mcunningham@pbp1.com writes:

<< cold beer and remote control >>

hey there,
where can i find the lyrics to this song?  also, what are the official titles
to the new songs emily sang at nff (the one w/"peace tonite", especially)?  i
know they sang "trouble" -what else?
thanks
rena

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ok. first of all, thanks to everyone who made me feel so welcome here!!! ya'll
are great! (some background info to any who may be interested, if not, skip to
end of parenthetical phrase... i hail from ct, just a few short i-95 exits
away from where one miss emily saliers was born.... since i've been listening
to the girls, i can't stop myself from saying 'ya'll'. it glides so
effortlessly off the tongue, don'cha'll agree?? soooooooo, even though i
absolutely love new england, and love being called a yank, i am very fond of
'the southland in the springtime'....sometimes i, too feel that 'when god made
me born a yankee, he was teasin'.....)
ok, glad i explained that!!! ha!
well, since i cant figure out how to reply to specific things in other
messages, im going to assail you with random thoughts which will apply to
other post snippets.....
1. i really don't think gandhi went to hell....
2. i am a new catie curtis fan, and would like to say that she rocks and it
was a treat to see her, scared shitless as she was, join ig for a rousing
rendition of ctf at nff.
3. i am ashamed to say i haven't heard of this rose person everyone's been
yammering about, but i trust your judgement and am now on a mission to get my
monkey paws on her music.
4. i prefer pepsi over coke (that has nothing to do with anything)
5. as for spiritual referneces in ig songs, they indeed run rampant... which i
absolutely love and embrace as i am quite religious. i know many would call ig
spiritual, not necessarily religious, but how can you separate the two? wasnt
amy a theology major?? i dont know if the girls put on their sunday dresses
every week and skip off to church, but i do feel they are highly religious
people - in whatever form they take....

that's all my muddled brain has to offer right now.... i must start packing.
back to school.........

peace,
karen

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anyone out there going to this 8/25 lilith show and want to gather at some
point?  i just got ditched for this show, and i'd hate to have to sit all by my
lonesome self.  as many will attest, i'm pretty good at general admission shows,
so whatever space i get is open to friendly faces (who identify themselves
beforehand of course).  *especially* if you're good at arm-blocking and blanket
protecting...

m

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>jesus is an open prayer.  amy tends to use more spirit-like phrasing in
>songs like jonas and ezekiel and hand me downs.
>i see ig's music as more spiritual than religious, which reminds me,

i agree - the writing of both women seems to me more spiritual than
religious, but their themes and styles are really different. emily seems to
focus on the spiritual "plane" while i'd say amy is focused on very
earthly, blood guts kind of themes. emily has ongoing conversations with
god or jesus whether they be prayerful or just questioning. she wonders
about past lives and the connectedness of our spirits. she asks for help in
times of weakness. she seems comfortable with human struggle her faith in a
god who oversees us. amy writes more of anger and pain in her spiritual
references, even to the point of feeling "forsaken", though i think by a
person, not by god - maybe both. she expresses a feeling of struggle in the
earthly body with references to blood, to what she sees or touches etc...
she also expresses a fear of death. she looks to the land and earth for
answers, and seeks healing through love - though i get the sense that the
love comes through another person. wish i had all the relevant lyrics at
hand, but for now i gotta get back to my lab bench and keep working.

great question!
-sue

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wow i feel like this is newbee week, so here i go again, introducing
myself...

1. i too hail from ct, although my family is texan, and therefore
expressions like "y'all", "for pete's sake", and "cuter than a bug"
regularly sneak into my conversation- to the boundless amusement of all
who know me...

2.  i heartily agree with all that ghandi did not go to hell

3.  coke is waaaay better than pepsi, no offense to all who feel
otherwise.

4.  (the real stuff)  i agree that the music of the indigo girls is not
religious, but rather spritiual- i define the difference thusly<grin>:
if the music were religious, it would, for lack of a better word,
"promote" a particular religious sect.  but it seems to me that they are
simply acknowledging a higher power of some kind, and embracing basic
judeo-christian values- the real ones, not, "shoot at a bunch of jewish
kids because you think they are the spawn of satan" like that
oh-so-lovable (could i be more sarcastic?) character in l.a. did.  they
are embracing "love thy neighbor", "judge not lest ye be judged
yourself", "thou shalt not kill" and other good values.  i was raised
jewish, and i'm now.... i don't know, really, but i too acknowledge a
higher power, and embrace those basic values- or, if you'd rather put a
pagan spin on it "an ye harm none, do an ye will" sort of thing.  but i
feel that all of these things are related, and that the girls are trying
to promote peace, love and happiness.  whatever you want to call it, i
think most people would find themselves hard pressed to say that these
are bad things. :) which is a good thing.

i will stop rambling now, and i too will start packing for school,
taking a short break to have my wisdom teeth removed.... wish me luck!!


keep smiling!
ruth


karen murphy wrote:
>
> ok. first of all, thanks to everyone who made me feel so welcome here!!! ya'll
> are great! (some background info to any who may be interested, if not, skip to
> end of parenthetical phrase... i hail from ct, just a few short i-95 exits
> away from where one miss emily saliers was born.... since i've been listening
> to the girls, i can't stop myself from saying 'ya'll'. it glides so
> effortlessly off the tongue, don'cha'll agree?? soooooooo, even though i
> absolutely love new england, and love being called a yank, i am very fond of
> 'the southland in the springtime'....sometimes i, too feel that 'when god made
> me born a yankee, he was teasin'.....)
> ok, glad i explained that!!! ha!
> well, since i cant figure out how to reply to specific things in other
> messages, im going to assail you with random thoughts which will apply to
> other post snippets.....
> 1. i really don't think gandhi went to hell....
> 2. i am a new catie curtis fan, and would like to say that she rocks and it
> was a treat to see her, scared shitless as she was, join ig for a rousing
> rendition of ctf at nff.
> 3. i am ashamed to say i haven't heard of this rose person everyone's been
> yammering about, but i trust your judgement and am now on a mission to get my
> monkey paws on her music.
> 4. i prefer pepsi over coke (that has nothing to do with anything)
> 5. as for spiritual referneces in ig songs, they indeed run rampant... which i
> absolutely love and embrace as i am quite religious. i know many would call ig
> spiritual, not necessarily religious, but how can you separate the two? wasnt
> amy a theology major?? i dont know if the girls put on their sunday dresses
> every week and skip off to church, but i do feel they are highly religious
> people - in whatever form they take....
>
> that's all my muddled brain has to offer right now.... i must start packing.
> back to school.........
>
> peace,
> karen
>
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i almost forgot-
for anyone who is near westport ct this saturday, the neilds are playing
at the levitt pavilion- you can e-mail me privately if you want more
info

keep smiling!
ruth

karen murphy wrote:
>
> ok. first of all, thanks to everyone who made me feel so welcome here!!! ya'll
> are great! (some background info to any who may be interested, if not, skip to
> end of parenthetical phrase... i hail from ct, just a few short i-95 exits
> away from where one miss emily saliers was born.... since i've been listening
> to the girls, i can't stop myself from saying 'ya'll'. it glides so
> effortlessly off the tongue, don'cha'll agree?? soooooooo, even though i
> absolutely love new england, and love being called a yank, i am very fond of
> 'the southland in the springtime'....sometimes i, too feel that 'when god made
> me born a yankee, he was teasin'.....)
> ok, glad i explained that!!! ha!
> well, since i cant figure out how to reply to specific things in other
> messages, im going to assail you with random thoughts which will apply to
> other post snippets.....
> 1. i really don't think gandhi went to hell....
> 2. i am a new catie curtis fan, and would like to say that she rocks and it
> was a treat to see her, scared shitless as she was, join ig for a rousing
> rendition of ctf at nff.
> 3. i am ashamed to say i haven't heard of this rose person everyone's been
> yammering about, but i trust your judgement and am now on a mission to get my
> monkey paws on her music.
> 4. i prefer pepsi over coke (that has nothing to do with anything)
> 5. as for spiritual referneces in ig songs, they indeed run rampant... which i
> absolutely love and embrace as i am quite religious. i know many would call ig
> spiritual, not necessarily religious, but how can you separate the two? wasnt
> amy a theology major?? i dont know if the girls put on their sunday dresses
> every week and skip off to church, but i do feel they are highly religious
> people - in whatever form they take....
>
> that's all my muddled brain has to offer right now.... i must start packing.
> back to school.........
>
> peace,
> karen
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date:         thu, 12 aug 1999 09:39:46 -0700
reply-to:     ryan blackhawke <hawke2@email.msn.com>
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i meant to post this to the list as well. oops.

> i hail from ct, just a few short i-95 exits
> away from where one miss emily saliers was born....

i have been a fan of the girls since 89 and i didn't know she was born in
ct! now that line in southland makes so much more sense!  i was born in
atlanta but raised all over.

> 1. i really don't think gandhi went to hell....
> 2. i am a new catie curtis fan, and would like to say that she
> rocks and it
> was a treat to see her, scared shitless as she was, join ig for a rousing
> rendition of ctf at nff.

hmmm all these new artists to go hear. i'm pretty stuck in my ways and have
little time to investigate new artists...general it goes somethign like
this: i go to lilith fair or some other festival and hear someone i think is
great and then rush to the record booth and buy everything they have.

> 3. i am ashamed to say i haven't heard of this rose person everyone's been
> yammering about, but i trust your judgement and am now on a
> mission to get my
> monkey paws on her music.

hehehe monkey paws. that's cute.

> 4. i prefer pepsi over coke (that has nothing to do with anything)


i'll forgive you anyway. i think true southerners prefer coke. haha that
could be an ad campaign for coke in the south.

> 5. as for spiritual referneces in ig songs, they indeed run
> rampant... which i
> absolutely love and embrace as i am quite religious. i know many
> would call ig
> spiritual, not necessarily religious, but how can you separate
> the two?

religious = man-made
spritual = god(dess)-made

religion is often used to keep others down, as an excuse to destroy.
sprituality is the opposite, a way to connect with all that is around us, to
acccept the diversity of life. but as dennis miller would say, that's just
my opinion, i could be wrong.

wasnt
> amy a theology major??

i was a social work major but don't do that now. my wife went to bible
college in another lifetime (well this life but she was a much different
person now). basically, bible college taught her the fallacy of the
organized religious movement.

i dont know if the girls put on their
> sunday dresses
> every week and skip off to church, but i do feel they are highly religious
> people - in whatever form they take....

no, i'd say spiritual. but you can say religious if you wish (you say
to-may-to and i say to-mah-to...)

> that's all my muddled brain has to offer right now.... i must
> start packing.
> back to school.........

welcome to all you newbies. now remember, respect your elders (i'm only
joking....but it would be nice).

ryan blackhawke
owner - fremont hemp co
(206)632-hemp
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date:         fri, 13 aug 1999 04:20:51 +1000
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hey folks,

ponygirl said:
>i noticed that no one else had plugged the new catie curtis
>album yet, soooo...it's called "a crash course in roses", and

i saw catie play on tuesday night in provincetown at the
first annual provincetown womyn's music festival (catie,
sonia of disappear fear, kate wolf, zoe lewis and great
blue sky).  during her set catie mentioned that she had
been at newport on the weekend and was all excited to
have sung with the girls during "closer to fine".  she
was obviously still spinning from the experience - it was
quite endearing. :)

i'm not all that familiar with catie's music (yet) but
what i've heard of "a crash course in roses" is excellent.

and, speaking of sonia of disappear fear and speaking of
excellent albums - her new album "me, too" is coming out
on september 7th.  she really is just getting better and
better - anyone who's heard her do the title track in
concert will know exactly what i mean.  plug, plug, plug -
i can't wait!

:)
sherlyn
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  between here-and-now and forever is such precious little time
  what we do in love and kindness is all we ever leave behind..."
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date:         thu, 12 aug 1999 13:36:57 -0500
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tickets go on sale monday for the indigo girls sept. 24 show at first =
american music center in nashville.

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date:         thu, 12 aug 1999 14:45:43 -0400
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hey fortunates,

i have one ticket for the chicago lilith fair for sale.  it's a reserved
seat in the second most expensive reserved section at the world.  alas, i
don't have the info right in front of me, but i think it's on about the
11th row *of that section* and it ran in the 70 to 80 dollar range.  i'm
selling it at cost plus 3 dollars shipping.  and, of course, you'll have
to sit by wonderful me!  :-d

please email me if interested.  i'm selling on a first-come first-serve
basis.

chris

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date:         thu, 12 aug 1999 15:15:29 -0700
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i'm going to this show on my lonesome (fm las vegas) & wanted to know if =
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anyone? anyone? =20

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i just got this in a letter from catie posted to catielist, if anyone wants
to read the whole letter e-mail me and i'll forward it to you.

i really want to thank those of you who've already gotten the record and
have
been out there talking it up.  also you who've turned up at gigs already in
this first week.  the newport folk festival was enormously fun.  my band and
i had a blast playing, and then i got to join the indigo girls for their
encore, closer to fine.  they had me sing the last verse, which was pretty
trippy after years of humming along to "i dropped by the bar at 3 am...."  i
looked out and saw lots of people who i recognized from my shows, and it
felt
like such a damn small soulful world of joy there for a few minutes.


enjoy,
karen


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date:         thu, 12 aug 1999 17:26:42 edt
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    since everyone else has done their introduction and ryan has done a
commentary, i might as well introduce myself.
    i am a 18 year who has always resided in portland oregon.  i have never
traveled that much.  i will reside in olympia washington in the end of sept
for college.  that may explain why i have asked about olympia here and there.
    i have been told that i have a slight british accent even though i don't,
but it is the effect of a speech impediment.
    i have unfortunately never have really noticed the religious/ spiritual
aspects of ig's music, but i guess i will be more observant.
    i was totally impressed with the symbolism that i found in s. o., and how
ig kept the symbolism through out the album.
    i prefer mountain dew to coke, but coke comes in second.
    i spent 14 years of my life in a catholic school.  turned out to be
episcopalian.  plan to go to seminary.  never been condemning and never will.
afraid of born a gains.  pro choice.  ghandi did not go to hell and buddha
did not either.  none of them did.  they all follow the same teachings and
taught different people if anything.
    all of the artists that are talked about besides ig i have never heard
of, but i am learning.
    if anything, i think thee all for what thee have done.
                        tat

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check out:  http://www.lifeblood.net/lyrics/all.html

cold beer
all of my days have been misspent
stuffing out the sofa and the antennas bent
inside my hearts busting out at the seams
i work for the impossible american dream

i got a job at the grocery store
a few bucks an hour and not much more
the world comes in just to take things away
eat it all up and then they sleep until day

i try not to care i would lose my mind
running round after the same thing time after time
only two things bound to soothe my soul
cold beer and remote control

once upon a time i was nobodys fool
two jobs and showing up for school
i guess it comes apart so little by little
you don't know your there until your stuck in the middle

i try not to care i would lose my mind
running round the same thing time after time
only two things bound to soothe my soul
cold beer and remote control

sit down
the room is dark
the blurry graffiti on the benches
across at the public park

the plastic splatter
(the plastic splatter)
the haze is blue
(the haze is blue)
all i want
(want)
is nothing to do
(to do)

cause it's a long walk to the bus stop
it's a long wait for the turning clock
a too tired car sitting up on the blocks
and things i put aside like that pile of rocks

i try not to care i would lose my mind
running round the same thing time after time
only two things bound to soothe my soul
cold beer and remote control

yes i try not to care i would lose my mind
(all of my days have been misspent)
running round the same thing time after time
(stuffing out the sofa and the antennas bent)
only two things bound to soothe my soul
(inside my hearts busting out at the seams)
cold beer and remote control
(i work for the impossible american dream)

yeah

cold beer and remote control
(i said i guess it comes apart so little by little yeah)
yeah beer and remote control
(i said i guess it comes apart so little by little yeah)
yeah

words and music emily saliers
as performed april 24, 1999 at the variety playhouse in atlanta, georgia
(unreleased)

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hey all you soggy, web-footed fellow pnw listees.  here's an interesting, yet
silly question.  has anyone any information about parking for bumbershoot?  i
ask simply because i am going to have to go there, possibly alone, possibly
with friends, and find a parking place and acquire wristband(s).  i need to
know locations and proximity to seattle center, prices, and duration (i.e. 1
hour, 5 hours, all day, etc.).  i also need to know if it's possible to pick
up more than one wristband at a time, as in my wife has to work during the
day on friday the 3rd, and i wanted to know if it is possible to get her a
wristband in the morning, or if she is going to have to chance it and try to
get one when she gets there.  in any event, i will be there with bells, and
my beautiful beloved list shirt, on.  you can't miss me.  i'll be the butch
in the list shirt and the black hat that says 'girls kick ass'.

dawn

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date:         fri, 13 aug 1999 08:33:54 +1000
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subject: re[2]: new freakin thread.........

i agree that the wood song (my favorite) is very spiritual.
it's the song i listen to when i feel i'm losing my faith in life.

by the way, i'm new and i dont know how to post.  i want to
talk about the folk festival in newport - can someone help
me.

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date:         fri, 13 aug 1999 11:10:24 +1200
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date: sun, 15 aug 1999 14:41:00 +0000
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if ya havent seen this movie, you should it's really good and sooooo funny!!

http://www.betterthanchocolate.com/


  "better than chocolate" is a sexy romp of love and lust with surprising results. maggie (karyn dwyer) meets the woman of her dreams kim (christina cox) just hours before her mother, lilia (wendy crewson), and brother, paul (kevin mundy),move in with her. when the four end up sharing a loft, maggie believes she must keep her affair a secret but it is maggie's clandestine romance that inadvertently introduces her family to a host of new experiences, all of which are potentially better than chocolate.

  the film, directed by anne wheeler, written and co-produced by peggy thompson and produced by sharon mcgowan, will open in theatres nation wide in august 1999. the film features wendy crewson, karyn dwyer, christina cox, ann-marie macdonald, and peter outerbridge.

  "better than chocolate" won the millivres multimedia audience award for most popular film at the 1999 london gay & lesbian film festival and was winner of the best feature film audience award at inside out, the 1999 toronto lesbian & gay film festival.

  the soundtrack includes songs by sarah mclachlan, ani difranco, bif naked and ferron among others.

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this is a wonderful!  in the display ad in the nashville scene, it is billed
as "an intimate evening" with ig.  it is a pavilion-only show, which means
only reserved seats will be sold (no lawn tix will be sold).  i called first
american music center today and they said they didn't yet have info about the
opening act.

btw, i posted about this early this afternoon from my work e-mail addy (for
which i'm not subscribed), but evidently it wasn't approved for distribution
to the list.  hmmm

peace!

joan :-d

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tattoo1981@aol.com wrote:
    since everyone else has done their introduction and ryan has done a
commentary, i might as well introduce myself.
    i am a 18 year who has always resided in portland oregon.  i have never
traveled that much.  i will reside in olympia washington in the end of sept
for college.  that may explain why i have asked about olympia here and there.
***you should be proud! olympia is mentioned in 'hey kind friend'!!****

    ***i prefer mountain dew to coke, but coke comes in second*** i am so glad
i have initiated this discussion of beverege preferences!!! what a riot!
    -karen
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karen murphy <murphyslaw77@netscape.net> wrote:
tattoo1981@aol.com wrote:
    since everyone else has done their introduction and ryan has done a
commentary, i might as well introduce myself.
    i am a 18 year who has always resided in portland oregon.  i have never
traveled that much.  i will reside in olympia washington in the end of sept
for college.  that may explain why i have asked about olympia here and there.
***you should be proud! olympia is mentioned in 'hey kind friend'!!****

    ***i prefer mountain dew to coke, but coke comes in second*** i am so
glad
i have initiated this discussion of beverege preferences!!! what a riot!
    -karen
***duh, i spelled beverage wrong! (too much pepsi affects my spelling
ability!)
-k
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date:         thu, 12 aug 1999 20:57:56 edt
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definitely a good topic....

i've been dealing with this issue for a while now and when i heard hey jesus
for the first time it absolutly floored me b/c that is exactly what i was
feeling.  (how come i gotta die to get a chance to talk to you, face to
face....when i get up to your doors, i don't even know if your gonna let me
in the place.)  i was drowning in my misery not having some sense of a higher
power or anywhere (spiritual being or otherwise) to turn for comfort.  it
always seems that what ever i'm going through, no matter how wierd or off the
wall the emotions are to some people, i can find some solace in their music.
they can somehow express in music what i can't say in words....

part of the big reason i have fallen in love with them.


tina

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date:         thu, 12 aug 1999 18:19:29 pdt
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hey peoples,

so--i am going to break up this potentially long post into parts, read as
desired.  hope everyone is having a good and/or insightful week--if not,
pick a random ig cd/tape/boot and give it a spin!

thursday, 8/5
i drove over to philly to meet shelley and hear rose polenzani for the third
time (once in chicago, once in l.a.).  like shel said on the
rose-p@onelist.com list, rose had bad thai food, and subsequently, ripped on
"parking ticket", jamming on her guitar like a maniac, cussing and
screaming. whoa!

friday, 8/6
although we arrived late, while in line for parking, i heard the girls
singing "shame on you"--jill and i had our mouths open, confused about what
happened to the opening act (rose p.).  parking quickly, we half-ran to the
venue, and heard the end of "gone again".  as ig & company broke into the
chords for "ghost", i was struck dumb and stuttering, at having the
opportunity to hear this gem live (same thing w/ love's recovery).  the
whole concert was very high-energy and happy--you could tell that amy and
emily thrive on performing live.  smiles all around ('cept the end).

i truly enjoyed hearing the latest version of "go" with sinead o'connor's
band--especially because i could sing along, courtesy of the suffragette
sessions last summer.  the thing about attending this show is that i felt
like i was seeing "family" again--even though, it was only my fourth ig
concert.  it is also interesting to note what songs from which albums amy
and emily choose for their setlists--this time, they included two or three
from each album except for sf and nis; and five from come on now social.

more later,
diane :)

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just wanted to say that i have been subscribed to this list for a year now
and i don't think that i have ever seen such as  out pouring of love for
newbies as i have this week...it's great!!!!!   i still feel like a newbie
myself, but it's so nice to see everyone being encouraging and ....well, kind
friends!!!!     happy happy!
    also, i am going to see lilith in toronto next week,both days, hopefully,
thanks to dan the man!!   (everyone say, yay dan!)  my point, and i do have
one, is that there have been numerous mentions of the girls new songs and
while i am ever so anxious to see them live after almost 2 years!!!, i hardly
know any of the songs.  i've read all the words and the awesome posts, but
haven't heard the actually tunes.  (faye tucker, cold beer, boys just
laugh....yadda yadda, )   i have blanks and cd - rs that i can send along,
but my boot selection is very meager, and i've not much to trade.  i know
that there are a few trees organizing, and i will most definitely get in on
that, would anybody like to send along a copy of this stuff before next week?
    ( yeah i know i am not asking too much, parting the sea would be easier
right now, i'm sure!)
please respond privately if there's anyone who has the time to help me out!
    also, is anyone going to toronto!?  i know that there is a huge fumble
rumble scheduled for friday  with the sarah listees, but anyone else wanna
meet up for a bit?  let me know.  while i don't live in toronto, i'm not far
and would be willing to try and set something up!
    thanks for listening to the rambling post!
mary

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hi all~
    i'm posting a "i haven't heard from you in a long time and i'm wondering
if you've dropped off the face of the list/internet" post. i am looking for
lani spigolton (last name most likely spelled wrong). lani, if you're out
there in list ladn please email me!
~alyssa

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hey y'all--

did anyone go to the cincinnati lilith?  i just want to know what y'all
thought.  i thought that sheryl crow's set rocked.  i love all of the new ig
stuff, but i was the only one standing in my area....i am ready for sarah to
come out with some new material.  i've seen her three times in the past two
years and it is all the same...that's why i like the ig so much, they keep it
fresh!

ooh...during patty griffin's set, i turned around and amy was right behind
me!!

at the chickclick booth, i saw sarah from real world miami working.

it wasn't nearly as awesome as my first lilith '97, but it was a great
experience....chrissy hynde rocks...

lauren

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i was listening to cold beer (thanks to neil's cd!) and was amazed that once
again, how well emily wrote about feelings that everybody can related to. i
often feel so tired and worn out that all i want to do is prop myself in
front of the tv (i'm not a beer drinker though) and stop thinking for a
while. thanks ig for being one of the few things that can soothe my soul.

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date:         thu, 12 aug 1999 20:05:22 -0700
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i'm sorry if this was posted to the list before. i sent it right around the
time my email started acting up. btw, no word on why those of us on msn
stopped receiving the list mail.

as you all know, we are in the middle of a fundraising drive to be able to
bring another concert series to you benefitting honor the earth (an
organization near and dear to the hearts of our girls).  this is a very
worthwhile organization run with the highest integrity.

that being said, hte needs your help. donate your money or your time. help
get the word out. do you write for your school's newspaper? an article would
be great. do you advertise? how about a small blurb about how your business
supports honor the earth? ask your local hangouts if you can put a change
jar near their register. there is so much you can do to help out.

and all prizes aside (and you have to admit they are some sweet prizes),
helping honor the earth with your monetary and other contributions will just
give you the biggest case of warm fuzzies.

now for the disclaimer: i am coordinator for the pnw region. we're doing
pretty good but i think we can do better. anyone in the pnw who wants to get
involved, please call me. if you aren't in the pnw area and still want to
get involved please do so! i'm sure greta has the complete list of
coordinators for each region. helping honor the earth makes us all winners.

ryan blackhawke
owner - fremont hemp co
(206)632-hemp
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hence, the reason this is the last year for lilith. sarah is itching to get
back in the studio as well.

ok newbies, please remember to put the following at the beginning of the
subject line: nigc if your message doesn't have anything to do with the
girls. sigc of some of what you have to say has to do with the girls and igc
if your message is like, totally related to the girls.

ryan blackhawke
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> -----original message-----

> i am ready
> for sarah to
> come out with some new material.  i've seen her three times in
> the past two
> years and it is all the same...

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this from the email auspices of the mighty gabriel unger artist mgmt.
no, i do not know what 'auspices' are.

>**************************************************
>on thursday, august 19th at 7:30 pm club passim will present a
>concert for kosovo at harvard university's sanders theater.
>you can buy tickets now by calling 617.496.2222 (tues-sat, 12-6pm).
>
>the evening will feature an amazing lineup of artists. 100% of the
>proceeds will benefit three humanitarian and relief organizations in
>boston that are working to rebuild kosovo and provide assistance: oxfam
>america, the international rescue committee, and physicians for human
>rights. to learn more about these organizations please visit the
>concert website at: http://www.benefitkosovo.org
>
>although some refugees have already returned to kosovo, more than
>100,000 refugees remain in the camps.  according to physicians for
>human  rights, more than 100 medical clinics have been destroyed in
>kosovo.  the un reports that almost half of the schools in the province
>have been severely  destroyed or damaged and 50% of the houses are
>damaged.  in most towns, the water supplies have been endangered
>according to oxfam america. the international rescue committee is
>assisting kosovar refugees in the boston area.
>
>the concert lineup includes:
>
>ellis paul -- ten time boston music award winner and rounder recording
>artist ellis paul has been heralded by the boston globe as "a national
>folk star and the quintessential boston songwriter."
>
>catie curtis -- deemed a "folk-rock goddess" by the new yorker, catie
>curtis was a performer in last summer's lilith fair and toured with
>mary chapin carpeter.  this summer she headlined at the newport folk
>festival.  her new album on rykodisc is "a crash course in roses."
>
>five o'clock shadow -- boston's own pop vocal band, five o'clock
>shadow was recently nominated for three contemporary acappella awards.
>the  band's sound is an amalgam of rock, funk, dance, hip hop, jazz,
>and edgy grooves.
>
>walter robinson and his gospel ensemble -- walter robinson's musical
>moses sold out two performances at the emerson majestic theatre.  his
>gospel ensemble recently returned from a national tour.
>
>greg greenway -- "a major talent" (boston phoenix), eastern front
>recording artist greg greenway plays with "foot-stomping passion"
>(boston  globe).
>
>zabe i babe -- formed by sarajevo native minja lausevic, zabe i babe
>features balkan vocals in overdrive.  sing out magazine says,
>"exploding with passion, zabe i babe mixes wild abandon with a
>raucously good time."
>
>plus, cambridge-born commentator and humorist jimmy tingle will emcee
>the event.  an internationally acclaimed political satirist, jimmy is
>now the commentator of cbs tv's 60 minutes ii.  jimmy's one-man show
>uncommon sense: the education of an american comic had sold-out runs
>at the hasty pudding theatre and copley theater in boston in both 1996
>and 1998.  he has been named boston's best comedian by boston magazine;
>has appeared on the tonight show, the late show with conan o'brien, and
>his own one night stand comedy special on hbo.
>
>tickets and donor information appear below.  if you cannot attend,
>please consider making a donation in any amount.  also, please help by
>passing this email on to a friend.  we look forward to a special
>evening on august 19th.  hope to see you there!
>
>here is how you can help:
>
>1.  purchase a ticket
>tickets are available to the general public for: $22.50, $30.00, and
>$37.50.  donor tickets can be purchased for $100 and up and include a
>pass to the post-concert reception catered by the sheraton.  tickets
>can be purchased by calling or visiting the harvard box office,
>617.496.2222  (tty 495-1642) in harvard square, 1350 massachusetts
>avenue, holyoke center, cambridge.  summer hours at the box office are
>tuesday-saturday, noon-6pm.
>
>tickets will sell quickly, so please purchase your ticket(s) as soon
>as possible!
>
>2. make a special gift to support the concert for kosovo
>even if you cannot attend the concert for kosovo, you can help! you can
>make a contribution online by going to: http://www.benefitkosovo.org.
>or, simply send a check in any amount payable to club passim - concert
>for kosovo and mail it to club passim, 47 palmer street, cambridge, ma
>02138
>
>again, please help spread the word by sending this email to friends or
>colleagues who might be interested in supporting and/or attending
>the concert for kosovo.
>
>thank you very much!


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date:         fri, 13 aug 1999 00:25:11 -0700
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ok, lilith has stoked the annual ig-following fire in my veins.  give me
indigo girls...give me an "intimate evening"...umm, and give me the number
or web addy of this first american music center where they're supposed to
be playing 'cause i can't find it in ticketmaster or in any nashville
searches.
:) thanks!
lisa

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i know this is a bit away....but, wondering if the girls are playing in
atlanta the weekend of oct. 8....i'm in town for a conference that weekend.

or, if any of you know anyone else i should check out and listen to while
there.

:-)  ctofine

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date:         fri, 13 aug 1999 01:38:11 -0700
reply-to:     shannon j curnutte <shannonc@oregon.uoregon.edu>
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well, i guess i'll get in on the newbie introduction trend... =)

i'm 20 years old, a biology major at the university of oregon.  born in
denver, raised in portland, or since i was 5.  haven't yet had the chance to
see the girls in concert, though i'm hoping to be able to go up to seattle for
bumbershoot this year...

hmm... what else... i like pepsi more then coke, but i usually would rather
drink water or juice than any kind of soda...i'm working right now as a
counselor at a computer camp on the stanford campus... actually, speaking of
that, i have to get the kids up for breakfast tomorrow, so i need to go to
bed.
arianrhod

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i'm going to lilith in milwaukee on 8/24.  now that i see the ig setlist
contains many of their new songs, i'd really, really, really like to know
those songs before going to the concert.  does anyone have a boot they'd be
willing to copy for me and mail to me kinda quick?  please e-mail me if so,
and thanks!

bill

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date:         fri, 13 aug 1999 07:19:53 -0500
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i sent an email to waterloo village primarily to praise them for the
wonderful experience i had sightseeing there.  it is really a great example
of a living history museum.  i decided to include one complaint--about the
security at the concert.  i thought y'all might be interested in the response:

sorry for the security issue, they try to do their
job and at times are rough.  the indigo girls invited some fans on stage so
that part had been planned.
carla m. rota
www.waterloovillage.org
where history lives on...
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hkf's,

i have a question about two fall shows that i'm not too sure about.  the
9/24 nashville show... is that the right date and when did they go on sale -
was it this monday or next?

and the 10/2/99 show in davidson, nc that i saw on lifeblood...  does anyone
have any information on this one including when the tickets go on sale?

thanks for any help!
-mike
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subject:      pittsburgh lilith today
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yes, yes, i know, neither ig or rose will be at this lilith (well, maybe? who
knows), but i wanted to post that i'll be there.  i'm wearing a gray t-shirt
with "who is george?" on the front of it.  if you're there, come up and say
hello.

:)
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shannon j curnutte <shannonc@oregon.uoregon.edu> wrote:
well, i guess i'll get in on the newbie introduction trend... =)

"i like pepsi more then coke, but i usually would rather
drink water or juice than any kind of soda.."

once again, i am pleased as punch that this beverage thing has taken off like
wild-fire! (speaking of punch....!)

it seems as though all newbies are giving age and other info.... so what the
heck.... i'm soon to be 22, senior drama major. from ct. seen ig 9 times over
the past 3 years and have no plans to stop anytime soon. even though i've only
'known' of the girls since '94, i have made it my mission to discover
everything about them, in the good, respectful sense, of course.. and i feel i
have been highly successful in my quest. i have an impressive ig scrapbook
which dazzles the eye and tantilizes the brain.... but enough,enough,
enough....  i dont want to bare all in one post.... stay tuned!
tasty tid-bit, although im sure all you veterans are aware of this: ig appears
extensively on the awesome new mongrels cd 'not dead yet' (there;s also
another one, but i cant remember the name right now) they are both incredible
but hard to find..... i'd be happy to record for any one interested........
eat drink and be merry,
-karen
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in a message dated 8/13/1999 8:55:05 am central daylight time,
murphyslaw77@netscape.net writes:

> indigo-girls@netspace.org


actually the "new mongrels" cd's are very easy to find...they can be ordered
directly from amy's label daemon records (www.daemonrecords.com)  you can
order them from the website and the other new mongrels cd is entitled "big
cup of empty".

luann

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hmmmm...i was going to just sit back and not comment on waterloo (all you
folks are basically sharing what i feel anyway!!).  but this statement from
waterloo has got me  fuming.  after being lucky enough to have a great front
row seat for this show and an excellent view of amy and emily's faces, i
assure you there was no way that an invitation was extended.  emily had a
nervous looking "how quickly can i finish this song and get the hell out of
here" smile on her face and amy just looked scared and pissed.  sully was
absolutely rippin' and i thought for sure she was going to whack one nutty
kid over the head with em's guitar at one point.  we have all seen the girls
extend an invite to folks during ctf and this was not one of those cases.
the statement made by the waterloo village staff  is a boldface lie to cover
their own butts.

one piece of information that has not been shared here yet is that after the
stage rush there was a backstage rush.  my friends and i were told this by a
band member we met at a rest stop that night on our way to newport.  he also
told us that amy and emily were both very, very shaken and upset.  this venue
was an absolute disorganized wreck of a place and i would never pay to go
back there.

i feel so much better now that i vented...
peace,
chris

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definitely sounds like waterloo security playing a game of cya. here's the
closing line from the daemon newsletter.

"be sure to support your local artists and
stores...no more
riots...come on get happy...drink your ovaltine...and...don't rush the stage
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hello everyone!
   my name is angela and i am finally, after over 4 years of quietly lurking,
posting to the list.  i am definitely not a newbie... i feel like i already
know and am close to all of you.  recently the list atmosphere has been so
incredibly warm and friendly and i feel it is the right time to introduce
myself.
   i'm a 23 yr.old nc college student studying sociopolitical issues (in
other words, i still haven't decided between the sociology or polisci major).
i play guitar (and a few other instruments) and go road tripping every
chance i get.  i am an activist, especially focused on human rights issues,
and (to jump on the beverage bandwagon) i prefer sweet southern iced tea to
pepsi or coke.  ok, moving on to the igc...

   i think our collective attention needs to be directed towards the honor
the earth fundraiser.  because we have been so successful raising money for a
& e's birthday gifts in the past, hte has come to our little community asking
for help.  thanks to the efforts of ryan and java the list has raised over
$1000.  i know we can do more!
to do my part i have decided to hold a list auction.  i have a few things to
donate and all money will be given directly to hte.  if anyone else has ig
related merchandise or other items of interest to donate, i would like to
encourage you to hold your own auction!  here's what i have to offer:

indigo girls photos:
for a minimum donation of $10 you will receive one set of 5 different photos
of our girls: 2 of amy, 2 of emily and 1 of them together.  these are
beautiful high-quality color shots from the front row of atlanta pride.
there will be 5 unique sets available to the 5 highest bidding individuals.
remember, this is a fundraiser, so be as generous as you can!

1 shaming of the sun promo calendar:
bidding begins at $10.

also available:

1 original y kant tori read:
this is not a bootleg copy.  it is the original atlantic recording, released
in germany.  y kant tori read is fetching up to $300 on ebay, but for this
fundraiser bidding begins at $100.

   bidding for all items closes one week from today (aug. 13) so that all
digest members will have a chance to bid. updates on the highest bids will be
available upon request to encourage a little friendly competition.  email me
with your bids and/or questions -- i will reply to everyone, to let you know
that your bid has been received.

   well, i hope this auction is successful and that others will join in with
their own fundraisers.  thank you all for contributing your time and money to
honor the earth, and thanks to the people who are bringing the spirit and
excitement back to our list.

angela
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hello again!
i have some info on the davidson, nc concert:  i have spoken with the ig show
contact guy at davidson a couple of weeks ago and he told me that the seating
for the concert is general admission -- no assigned seating.  he said the
details weren't completely worked out yet, so hopefully this will not change.
after the stage-rushing fiasco, though, they might want this place to be more
secure and assign seats.  if you go to the davidson web site
(www.davidson.edu) you can see the size of the venue (baker sports complex).
as soon as i find out the details for the price of tickets and the sale date
i will post them on the list.

angela
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i, too, am disappointed with waterloo's paltry response to the stage-rushing
of friday evening--i got back some of my pictures from the evening, and any
"oh-it-couldn't-have-been-that-bad"ism is washed away by the three shots i
have of the crowd swelling progressivly larger until amy and emily are
barely visible to the crowd at all.

what was it they said about security?  that security sometimes has to be
"strict" or "mean" or some equally staunch and hollow word?  i've been to
children's dance recitals with more "strict" security.


>the statement made by the waterloo village staff  is a boldface lie to
>cover
>their own butts.


>one piece of information that has not been shared here yet is that after
>the stage rush there was a backstage rush.

holy geez...

>my friends and i were told this by a band member we met at a rest >stop
>that night on our way to newport.

hey, wait, were you in the caravan of indigo cars?

for the uninitiated (because i've been randomly posting my little comments
without any real sense of what i've said and what i haven't), here's the
scene.  jilly (who really should try out for nascar after her stellar shows
of speeding friday and yesterday...i can' t believe i got home on time!
side story, side story), diane and i are randomly driving-without-a-plan
after the stanhope show.  i think we were headed somewhere in the direction
of boston or newport or new york...somewhere northward without a real plan
(aside from being in newport by the morning.  so we're driving down the
highway, like an hour after the show, and all of a sudden, we come up behind
this van with "indigo chase '99 - go, go, go" written across the back and
side in white shoe polish.  so we drive up around the side, hang our screamy
little selves out the windows, and manage to determine that the driver (the
passenger? which window were we hanging out, anyways?) is from australia.
more random screaming.  so we drive up to the car in front, and the car in
front of them, and they all have the writing all over them, too.  we're in
good company.  not that we know where we are.  so they tell us to follow
them; we, having no general plan and even less a place to stay that night,
do, and end up, somewhere verging on 4 in the morning, in newport.  after
passing through "oh-my-god-we're-in-conneticut" and by
"oh-my-god-its-the-ocean" and over
"oh-my-god-its-a-bridge-let-me-take-a-picture".  after stopping at a random
rest stop, only to have jess (newbie listee), goody, and gabe unger walk in
behind us.  (it was at that point where i stopped thinking so hard, and
figured that somehow this trip was going to work, whether i knew how it was
going to happen or not.)

its a strange thing, almost an act of faith, to get in a car and drive for
five days and some couple thousand miles to and around the east coast, with
two women that you barely know.  all told, i think it went pretty well.
saratoga was a definite highlight (if for nothing else, than to see rose's
wide-eyed-and-hands-on-her-head giddyness at the prospect of singing "closer
to fine" with the girls).  its a gorgeous venue, really laid out well.  and
there's some, um, fine swimming in those there parts (or so i hear ;) ).

newport may end up being a yearly destination.  i was amazed by the
organization, and the general mellowness of it all (joan armatrading was a
little disappointing--i'm not sure what i expected, but she seemed rather
easy-listening for my tastes--until, of course, jill used her set as a means
to demostrate her supreme pogoing abilities--and then it got a lot more fun
(pogoing also came in handy during jennifer kimball's mainstage set early
sunday, when i was just trying to stay warm).  the girls were good--"go",
"faye tucker" and "sister" are all faves.  its interesting how amy's songs
seem to get even more edgy as she grows older.

fran, mike, elaine, tim, babs, jess, anna, sunny, susan, marilyn, the whole
"indigo chase" contingent, and everyone else i met, its great to see the
faces that match the names.

back to work!

take care,
shel

he also told us that amy and emily were both very, very shaken and upset.
this venue
>was an absolute disorganized wreck of a place and i would never pay to go
>back there.
>
>i feel so much better now that i vented...
>peace,
>chris
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hey all,

i just woke up from a nap in steamy columbus, oh, rolled over turned the
radio--cd 101--on, and there was emily singing "let's make peace tonight,"
w/the unmistakable husky tones of amy singing backup.  the dj confirmed
that this was new ig--said he really liked it, thought it sounded motown,
even though he's not an ig fan.  hmm, now i've heard a lot of the new
songs, but not this.  anyone know what it was?  it's a bit twangy, and the
"let's make peace" part is the chorus, which is repeated quite a bit.

sleepy and confused,

lisa

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ok i was wondering about the security at waterloo. below is what was said.
what i wonder and i could have totally analyzed this incorrectly, do u think
that the reason that the security let everyone mob the stage was maybe on
purpose as in homophobic, in a way?  or was it an honest mistake of not being
able to control everyone?  the homophobic aspect was only brought up because
i would think the security would be able to control it.  feed back would be
nice.  put me in my place if u like.
<<
sorry for the security issue, they try to do their
job and at times are rough.  the indigo girls invited some fans on stage so
that part had been planned.
carla m. rota
www.waterloovillage.org
where history lives on...
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yup, shel, that was us...a bunch of yahoos in our mid thirties (give or take)
on a 4 day road trip...woohoo!!  so glad we could help get you safely to
newport.  i think i only once said to myself "i am getting to damn old for
this!" and that was standing in a porta-potty trying to get my soaking wet
shorts back on sunday morning at newport!!  worth it totally babe...see you
at newport next year!!

peace,
chris

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i realized i did not introduce myself well when a few people asked me
questions off-list. also i did not weigh in on the drink issue - missed it.
so here goes!

i'm a month and a few days younger than amy. i was serious in my study of
music until i was about 19, then it became a hobby.  in my teens i spent
summers at a music center with lots of georgia high schoolers - sometimes i
wonder if any of them knew the budding ig? anyway, i play a few instruments
but did not take up guitar until a week after i heard closer to fine in
march 1989, when i was instantly hooked on the indigo girls. the girls have
taught me to play over the years and it has been a real pleasure! i have
seen one or two concerts per tour except for shaming of the sun - a
grueling time for me in grad school. i didn't even know they were here at
yale a year ago for spring fling!! i was probably two blocks away working
in my lab that afternoon. it still upsets me to think about that... i am a
back-to-school graduate student in a biomedical research field; am in my
final year, i think.  i don't have any ig memorabilia, but i love their
live music and would like to start collecting some of the fine homemade
recordings folks might have. i have a goal to get some kick-butt front row
(or close to it) seats on the next tour - i haven't managed that yet in all
these years.

i guess there's more (interest in the girls' causes etc...) but i'll save
that for future discussions as they come up.

finally, i like diet coke or juice, or a cold beer with remote control.
fine, fine beverages all.

-sue

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my good friend al
she being an immense r.e.m. fan
is sniffly brokenhearted
that the r.e.m. bumbershoot tickets
are so very sold out.
does anyone out there happen to have a spare?
you'd win the affections of the cutest curly-headed seattle-ite.

reply herein.
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lisa tatonetti <tatonetti.2@osu.edu> wrote:


"i just woke up from a nap in steamy columbus, oh, rolled over turned the
radio--cd 101--on, and there was emily singing "let's make peace tonight,"
w/the unmistakable husky tones of amy singing backup...."

why why why can't i find a radio station in ct that plays ig???? in my
travels, i've heard (of course) closer to fine, galileo, power of two (once on
the radio and once, elevator style over the speakers in a wal-mart in
edinboro, pa.... that one made me run through the aisles, screaming and
laughing, to find my sister and tell her - she's sadly not an ig fanatic like
myself) i don't wanna know, and shame on you. shame on you is the only one
i've heard in ct more than once on the radio. it is a crying crying shame that
ig doesnt get more air time around here. if any cter has radio station advice,
let me know..... there's no greater rush than to hear ig when you least expect
it. esp. in the car.....!
'please, god, or someone make it easier!!!!!!!'
-karen

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sulli confirmed a full fall tour was beginning in september, she said it as
she was tearing stuff down after the nff set.


so...who has the dates?

mike r.

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hey there y'all

does anyone have the lyrics to trouble or "soon to be nothing"
i'd appreciate it if you could send em my way if you do.
thanks,
sus

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i really don't think it's fair to jump to conclusions of homophobia
everytime something negative happens.  it sounds to me like things just
got a bit out of control, and that waterloo wasn't adequately prepared.

tattoo1981@aol.com wrote:
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> ok i was wondering about the security at waterloo. below is what was said.
> what i wonder and i could have totally analyzed this incorrectly, do u think
> that the reason that the security let everyone mob the stage was maybe on
> purpose as in homophobic, in a way?

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tickets are on sale now!!!

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sorry about 2 emails....

tickets are $25 plus something like a 3 dollar processing fee...i already
have them in the mail.  as far as i know it's general admission.  baker
sports complex is extremely nice and seats 6,000 so it'll be an intimate
night with the girls.


i'm so excited!!!!

tina  :)

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date:         fri, 13 aug 1999 23:21:40 edt
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  sorry for the security issue, they try to do their
  job and at times are rough.  the indigo girls invited some fans on stage
so
  that part had been planned.
  carla m. rota
  www.waterloovillage.org
  where history lives on...
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my thought is, that ig warned them that they might invite some people up to
sing....and they didn't mention *how* many....
so they didn't stop them, cuz we *know* they occasionally let pople up on
stage.....
really dumb security guards, who don't know the difference between safe and
notsafe..........
carol


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ok, ok i know, i introduced the subject and then never elaborated my
feelings on it. but i got a two day temp spot through an agency and have
been working out at the american horse shows association filing and typing
my heart out to earn money for my electric bill and gas for my car. so i am
dodging my g/f to relax a bit and answer my email.  so here they come.

first of all let me say that i am a reiki ii practitioner (feel free to ask
if you don't know what it is. i will tel you this much it is a type of
holistic healing. if you have never had a reiki treatment go get one it will
change your life.)  i also read tarot and do spirit guide work
professionaly.  i have read tarot since i was 9 years old, about 20 years
now....(ooops did i just anouce to the list that i am going to turn 29 for
the first time this year?.......yes, the first of many times i plan to do
that i refuse to turn 30....oh well, guess i did, now ya'll know)  and i
have always been driven with a strong spiritual desire for knowledge and
understanding.  i do tend to mix my spirituality a bit by sticking to most
of the christian beliefs my dad ( a southern baptist deacon......what can i
say he tried to make me a good little christian girl but ended up with a
tarot reading lesbian who does go to church from time to time :o)  ) has
instilled in me from brith and mixing different types philosophies to create
my own relationship with god.  so, for me,  the girls' music tickles more
than just my musical senses.  i identify with amy's search for divine
intervention.  she seems to be looking for answers to the same questions i
have been asking all my life. who am i,  where did i come from,  what guides
and governs us, is my sexuality what condemns me and causes all the trouble
that i keep having with the simple things that others seem to deal with so
easily?   what i have found is that after looking within myself and
accepting myself,  is that to love myself is the answer and to simply talk
to god and ask him to help guide me through the rough times and to look at
and learn from the lessons being handed down to me. throughout  the girls
music i see that same thread woven over and over again. they deal with it
honestly and ask those same questions and that is what has drawn me time and
time again to their music when everything seems to be falling right down on
top of my head.  i mean for crying out loud look at the love and
companionship we all share here on the list thanks to the girls.  would we
have ever met in this type of setting with out them.  that is also one of
the reasons i respect them as much as i do.   that,  and a heap of maturity
that i have gained through my struggles over the years.  emily always poses
the more upbeat and more innocent spiritual questions while amy's seem to
come right form the pits of the dispair within her soul, and having ridden
both trains of thought, i am so relieved to turn on my stereo and hear
someone else going through it. we are not alone here. we have found others
who deal with these things and offer different points of view to ponder. ok,
now you have my thoughts to ponder. i know i have  rambled a bit, but i
worked 10 hours today and am a bit tired, not to mention the back log of
email i have been answering tonight. not that i am complaining though i love
every minute of it. and everyone of you even those i disagree with from time
to time. any hoo digest all this and please feel free to respond either on
the list or privately i love theological discussions.


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your friend
beccie lyon

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at 06:17 pm 8/13/99 edt, you wrote:
>do u think
>that the reason that the security let everyone mob the stage was maybe on
>purpose as in homophobic, in a way?  or was it an honest mistake of not being
>able to control everyone?

i don't think these guys were organized enough to even contemplate a reason
for their dismal performance as security guards. they were completely
inept. i base this on the rest of the waterloo effort - parking, ushers,
etc... they were just all poorly trained and managed, i think. not enough
forethought to make the event go smoothly.

ya know,  i'd understand this if it were the only concert ever done at
waterloo, but i read an article about the place on lifeblood, and i hear
their adverts on the radio around here - they have johnny lang and others
that should draw comparable sized crowds. every time i hear one of those
ads i wish i could afford to broadcast one of my own that says, "no!!
danger - don't believe it! never go there!"

-sue

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a...freakin....men.....the people who rushed the stage and lost their minds
did just that lost it....but the security is truly to blame here. that is
their job for crying out loud. to protect whoever is on the stage and they
obviously did a piss poor job of it that night.

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your friend
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>  sorry for the security issue, they try to do their
>  job and at times are rough.  the indigo girls invited some fans on stage
>so
>  that part had been planned.
>  carla m. rota
>  www.waterloovillage.org
>  where history lives on...
>  ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>my thought is, that ig warned them that they might invite some people up to
>sing....and they didn't mention *how* many....
>so they didn't stop them, cuz we *know* they occasionally let pople up on
>stage.....
>really dumb security guards, who don't know the difference between safe and
>notsafe..........
>carol
>
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i've got to tell y'all..... the girls have been the cornerstone of my
spiritual re-birth... i was raised very baptist, and very much into the
gospel music that my sisters and i sang.  i have a really weird ear-thing;
certain sounds just plain hurt my ears, and the kind of pervasive guitar
distortion of a lot of pop and rock music (especially late 70s stuff --
giving away my age here)  is like jagged blades to my ears...and anyway,
since most of it is very hetero, it was quite irrelevant to my life anyway...
so i was really into the church music.  but then i lost it because of the
gay-thing... and there was a huge hole in my life for a long time, until i
discovered the spirituality within the magnificent harmony of ig.  amy
especially speaks to my soul that way. she uses the vocabulary of religion,
but opens it up to those of us who have been excluded from traditional
religion "...now we all are chosen ones..."   i found "secure yourself" and
"strange fire" especially powerful in ressurecting my spirituality.  clare
gives me a hard time ("that's all you listen to") but, oh well.  we found
ourselves comparing ig music to melissa etheridge.... and i won't say
anything bad about melissa...she's awesome and we both grew up gay in
kansas.... but, well, musically, ig's stuff is way more sophisticated,
intricate and multi-layered, infused with an expansive spirit unconfined by
rock-and-roll....  when i'm angry or tired of thinking too much...well,
melissa does it for me... but most of the time i'm trying to access the
creativity i feel haunting me just below my surface thoughts, and the girls
can reach through and lift it to me.

freida

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at 11:21 pm 8/13/99 edt, you wrote:
>
>my thought is, that ig warned them that they might invite some people up to
>sing....and they didn't mention *how* many....
>so they didn't stop them, cuz we *know* they occasionally let pople up on
>stage.....
>really dumb security guards, who don't know the difference between safe and
>notsafe..........
>carol

yes! carol, i think you are exactly right. sorry for so many emails
tonight, but i just had to second this. it happened pretty fast, and if
those guards hadn't thought about it in advance or hadn't been right there
near the stairways and recognized the problem as it was developing, they
just wouldn't have been able to stop it in time. it still makes me mad
because they should have been trained in recognizing potentially dangerous
crowd situations, but i think this really is what happened.

i have the feeling that in future concerts amy and emily will tell the
security exactly how many folks to count before blocking the stairs... or
they won't have folks up at all (i hope it doesn't come to this!).

-sue
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ok - my last post for the night. hey, it's friday, i just finished an
experiment in the lab, i had the girls' cd's on, and my mind was drifting
to these things:

we have had some discussion about spiritual/religious themes in the songs.
i know that amy and emily are heavily into supporting native american
causes. my understanding is that their involvement is based mainly on
political issues - oppression of people and the problems of evil capitalist
exploitation etc... (is this true?). however, the native american cultures
have rich spiritual traditions, rituals, healing ways, etc... that i would
think might interest amy and emily tremendously. i don't think i see too
many specific native spirituality themes in their writing though. there is
a lot of reference by amy to the awesome beauty of the earth, but i don't
think in a specific native belief context. i am not an expert on these
themes. i hear them from my mother who studies and teaches on this subject
in phoenix, az. but my mom doesn't listen to music and doesn't know the ig
work at all. do any of you know about these things? do native american
spiritual teachings influence the girls? and do these themes show up in the
music?

thanks,
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***annual august sale***
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***rose polenzani***
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***ph balance at atlantis***
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the indigo girls at the bumbershoot fest in seattle in sept.

***big band ii***
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lilith
fair shows that the indigo girls play.

speaking of ig - we've gotten a little listen to the new cd.  it rocks!

that's all from the office.   be sure to support your local artists and
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hey lisa and fellow kf's,

tickets for the september 24 show in nashville go on sale monday, august 16th
at 10:00 a.m. cdt.  the local ticketmaster number is (615) 255-9600.  you
should also be able to get tix on the ticketmaster site (the show is now
listed) or the first american music center site at www.firstamericanmusic.com

if you live in the southeast, you should check with your local ticketmaster
outlet to see if they sell tickets to shows in nashville.  i am able to buy
tickets to events in atlanta, memphis, etc. here in nashville.

anyhoo, famc is laid out almost exactly like lakewood in atlanta.  the
pavilion (reserved, covered seats) seats about 9,000 i believe.  i believe
this will the first time ig has played a full concert at famc.  they played
there during the '97 lilith fair.

if you have any other questions, feel free to e-mail me.

peace!

joan :-d

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subject:      bye for now!

hey, everyone,
        i'm mostly a lurker here, but just when the discussion was getting very
interesting, about religion, i'm off on vacation for two weeks, so after
tonight, i will not be around.
        however, if i can comment briefly about a related subject, one thing i
believe in amid all the stuff i sort through, is fate. and for whatever
reason, about 20 months ago, out of about 200 emails, i noticed one with an
australian address and a discussion about "favourite" artists, and began a
terrific friendship with a great person. well, next week, my friend shelley
and i will finally meet! and i expect us to have a terrific time, traipsing
around the philadelphia area.
        anyway, see you all when i get back.
deb

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well...might as well add my thoughts to the list...

history of me:

i'm a 26 year old straight girl who happens to love the girls.  i love their
music, b/c they appeal to everyone.

i fell in love with their music in college--when our drama dept. was "phased
out."  closer to fine was our theme song--sorry for all those who are sick of
hearing, but "i spent four years prostate to the higher minds...." has
special meaning for a girl fighting to keep drama alive at a private girl's
college in columbia, sc.

their music has gotten me through my greatest love (who came out in
1995)--"love will come to you."  quick note:  he's still my greatest love and
best friend, although he's gay.  and, many other fiasco's in my life.

the big joke was that you couldn't go to a columbia college production
without hearing indigo girls in the pre and post music.

i think gay or straight, bi- or otherwise, the girls have appeal to anyone
who wants to listen.

so, i've had my say.

i happen to be the gay mecca--gay boys love me....and, my best friends are in
the gay community, so, i'm a voice in the "stereotypical" straight community,
fighting for gay and human rights, too.

i love reading all the posts you guys send, since i've only been to two
concerts....

hopefully one day, we will all put aside the "you aren't like me!" bullshit
and just be human!

good weekend to all....

sincerely,

ctofine (often called claudia).

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hey all!

the lilith chicago ticket is still available.  i'm selling at cost--$59 (i
lied last time... sorry)--plus $3 shipping.  (i've been on the list about 5
years now, but the past one has been spent studying for phd prelims, so
those of you who don't know me, feel free to check me out with neil, or a
real voice from the past, jude, or anyone else who's been on the list
for-damn-ever :-))

i have an extra ticket because my gf was in a motorcycle accident and won't
be able to attend.  sniffle sniffle.

yours,
chris ii

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date:         fri, 13 aug 1999 23:10:58 -0700
reply-to:     hawke2@email.msn.com
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from:         ryan blackhawke <hawke2@email.msn.com>
subject:      re: sigc re: waterloo village
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neither. total incompetence is more like it. while we certainly live in a
society that isn't the nicest towards its queer members, i don't think this
was a case of passive-aggressive homophobia. and i too hate the idea that
every time something negative happens, someone tries to tag it on
homophobia. not that you did it consciously, tat, its just a pet peeve of
mine.

ryan blackhawke
owner - fremont hemp co
(206)632-hemp
http://www.fremonthemp.com

> -----original message-----
> tattoo1981@aol.com

> do u think
> that the reason that the security let everyone mob the stage was maybe on
> purpose as in homophobic, in a way?  or was it an honest mistake
> of not being
> able to control everyone?

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date:         sat, 14 aug 1999 03:31:27 edt
reply-to:     galileolin@aol.com
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hey everybody.  so, i think that last spitfire link (www.spitfire.com) just
didn't work, because it didn't work for me either.  anyways, i received this
from the spitfire list so here y'all go.......=)

the spitfire tour: presented by colleges.com,
tour gears up for 20-city series  following successful three day stand at
woodstock '99; speakers announced
first-ever tour of musicians, actors & activists speaking out on global
affairs

following an extraordinary three day stint at woodstock '99 which had
audiences chanting "rosie (perez) for president" and jamming to perry
farrell's only dj'ing gig on site, the spitfire tour is preparing for their
first full-fledged tour.  the tour, which will begin in october and appear at
20  college campuses across america, is sponsored by colleges.com.

at woodstock,  spitfire participants previewed the upcoming tour with a
multi-media array of presentations, ranging from the  spoken-word rap about
global togetherness of michael franti to a screening of a "made for spitfire"
home video from woody harrelson. the scheduled artists were joined on sunday
by an impromtu appearance of original woodstock personality wavy gravy.

the spitfire tour was created in part by human rights activist zack de la
rocha (rage against the machine).  launched last fall with a 4-city "pilot
tour," it is the first-ever tour of musicians, actors & activists speaking
out on global affairs.

spitfire stands for free speech, and with up to five speakers per date, they
represent a wide variety of topics.  current spitfire speakers include:  amy
ray  (indigo girls);  art alexakis (everclear); cecilia rodriquez (activist);
exene cervenka (x); greg graffin (bad religion); jello biafra (dead
kennedys); julia "butterfly" hill (activist, via simulcast); kenneth cole
(designer); kennedy (mtv); krist novoselic (nirvana);  michael franti
(spearhead); mickey hart (grateful dead); perry farrell (janes addiction);
todd mccormick (activist), tracey conaty (activist); woody harrelson (actor);
zack de la rocha (rage against the machine).

spitfire is generally free to students, and performs to 2,000 - 10,000 a
night.  the tour is funded by colleges.com. as well as each school's student
activities board.  in addition to hosting spitfire's web site, and
video-streaming the events to a world-wide audience, colleges.com is setting
up a free speech forum where students can voice their opinions and interact
with the speakers of the tour.  colleges.com was rated the #1 college web
site by usa today, and automatically introduces millions of new students to
the spitfire tour & their causes. spitfire's dedicated url is
www.colleges.com/spitfire.

for more information please call kate andrews or mark satlof at shore fire
media, 718.522.7171.

for more information about colleges.com, please call 619.597.7575.

www.colleges.com/spitfire

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date:         sat, 14 aug 1999 05:06:30 edt
reply-to:     jilly c <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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from:         jilly c <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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>sulli confirmed a fall tour...as
>she was tearing stuff down after the nff set.

mike mike mike,
hey mike. whooo.
(mike is the man)
but lemme pick on you.
wouldn't you say
what transpired was rather
you asked sulli, "sulliiiiiii when's the tooooooour?"
to which she looked at you kinda blankly and said,
"we *are* on tour."

i didn't catch what was said thereafter.
laughing too hard.

jill


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date:         sat, 14 aug 1999 02:21:36 -0700
reply-to:     i never was the fantasy of what you wanted me to be
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so . . . the new album is to be released on the 28th of september, hmm?

that's good news . . . and interesting . . . because the first episode of
xena's fifth season is set to premiere on syndication starting the 27th of
september . . .

*claps hands over mouth and rushes into corner before further insanity
ensues*

(you'll have to pardon the hardcore nutball aspect of my personality . . .
she's been writing fanfic again.  and she just got back from vacation so
she's even more punchy than usual.)

sounds like quite a collaborative effort here . . . sheryl crow, joan
osborne, me'shell ndegeocello . . . "diverse" certainly seems to be the
word to use!  and we'll get "soon to be nothing" and "faye tucker."
good deal, if you ask me!  ah, at any rate . . . i'm quite looking forward
to it . . . and, yes, to the first new episode of a certain tv show . . .
even though in my area i won't get to see it until november 2.  well, i
guess i can consider the new album and the new season both an early
birthday present.  <g>

        battle on,
        shanie
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that i guess i always knew but just didn't dare admit: yes . . . i'm . . .
a thespian!!!"  -- minya to xena and gabrielle in "the play's the thing

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date:         sat, 14 aug 1999 09:09:38 -0600
reply-to:     garian <vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu>
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from:         garian <vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu>
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i have one ticket available for the sunday denver lilith.  it is section
103, row fff, seat 108.  i'd like to sell it for what i paid: face +
ticketmaster charges, $89.94.  please respond privately.

thanks, g.

p.s.
check out the venue map on the tm page.  i think this is essentially row 6
in section 103.

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date:         sat, 14 aug 1999 08:36:23 pdt
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" do native american spiritual teachings influence the girls? and do these
themes show up in the
music?"

sue, i'm with you on that i don't know too much about specific native american
spiritual teachings, but i would say for sure, and amy and emily have said
themselves (esp.in a great interview in performing songwriter mag.) that who
they have met, and what they have seen in their 'travels' have greatly
influenced their music. they've spent extensive time on n.a. reservations, and
with indigenous peoples of chiapas mexico, namely the zapatista tribe...
(check out scooter boys lyrics). as for themes, i think 'welcome me' is very
n.a./spiritually influenced, and includes several native american themes:
praising the sun and moon, having reverence for coyotes... etc. also 'world
falls' illustrates ig's (esp. amy since she wrote it, although emily prob.
feels the same way) respect and awe for nature - a respect traditional among
native american tribes. also listen to 'shed your skin' that's especially n.a.
driven. and ulali's (sp?) backup is great and really creates a n.a. spiritual
feel... well, that's enough ranting for me. i know i've overlooked other
references, but there's at least a few i know off the top of my head.
=0)  -karen
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date:         sat, 14 aug 1999 12:46:24 edt
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hi all.....

i posted a while back about this great band stereo popsicle.  they will be
playing tonight at 9:00 sharp at the hard rock cafe downtown, as a part of
the atlantis conference.  one of the highlights of "sunlight and toys", the
debut release from stereo popsicle, is that emily sailiers is featured on
track #11, an acoustic version of jenny, a song that addresses the subject of
child abuse. don't miss your chance to see this great band.

come on out .....

stereo popsicle
hard rock cafe
9:00 sharp

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ok, my .02.....

i was there; somewhere between row 7-10.  actually, at the start i didnt
know whether it was planned or unplanned.  i actually (up until person 15)
thought it was cute.

here's what i think came down.....

i think that security was not used to such adoring crowds.    they had their
hands full just keeping people in their ticketed seats and that was where
their focus was.

when people started going on stage it was tough to re-prioritize.   do we
focus on those trying to crash the front & aisle (creating a fire hazard) or
figure out what all those people were doing walking on to the stage.

sidebar:  it seems to be a big thing to scam seats or aisle space closer to
the stage.  when people do that, it makes security's job more difficult and
can lead to the very attitude that many on the list deplore.

by our actions (aisle crashing, sitting in wrong seats) we may be creating
aggressive security at each ig venue.   thoughts?

melissa

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date:         sat, 14 aug 1999 15:02:02 edt
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hey y'all,

all right, so here's the update that i promised everyone few days back.  thus
far, the winners run as such:

grand prize (two golden circle tickets, signed cd, signed press photo,
advanced tour itinerary, signed hemp tour poster, tour t-shirt, personal note
from amy & emily):  ryan blackhawk - $650
first prize #1 (two golden circle tickets, signed photo, signed hemp tour
poster, advanceed tour itinerary): java solis - $250
first prize #2 (ditto): manivone sivilay - $50 (could you email me manivone?
i need to know how to get in touch with you when the contest is over.
thanks.:)
first prize #3 (ditto again): dawn jacobs & shawna stewart (who teamed up and
sent in their donation as a unit.  way to go girls...i hope you don't mind
splitting a prize:) - $40
second prize #1 (autographed hemp tour poster, advanced tour itinerary): sara
kitchen - $20

which brings our grand total to $1010!  ...remember, we still have nine
packages to give away, and any donation over $40 will get you into first
prize running.

checks and money orders to be made out to honor the earth/the tides center.
receipts will be available for tax purposes for contributions over $100.
donations may be sent to:

honor the earth fundraiser
c/o greta gohn & kristen mcelveen
621 house wren circle
palm harbor, fl 34683

the fundraiser ends on august 30th.  so remembe that all donations that want
to be counted in the final total must be in the mail by the 25th.

i'd also like to give a big public vote of appreciation to angela for her
kind words and generous auction items.

thanks again y'all for making this work.  we continue to be touched and
amazed by your seemingly unending support.

until next time,
-greta

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date:         sat, 14 aug 1999 15:57:13 -0700
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hey yall -

below you'll find the closing words from the daemon
monthly news...and it made me smile...'specially the
last part...

"...and...don't rush the stage"

- to me - just that statement lightheartedly implies
how the ig felt about people rushing the stage last
week...not to mention what others saw on their
faces...nonverbal tells us alot!  anyhoo - this caught
my eye - so i thought id share and pass it along...

hope yer all having a fantastic weekend!
xoxo
sunny


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riots...come on get happy...drink your
ovaltine...and...don't rush the stage ;-)
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