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date:         sat, 21 aug 1999 20:03:39 edt
reply-to:     emistar919@aol.com
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subject:      re: female bands <was chicago lilith>
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>i guess i just got a "i don't like the general tone of this email" feeling
>afterwards.


> first of all, the lax security at the show was based imo on
>the fact that the average age of the security was 13.  i think it had
>little to do with the fact that fewer men were at the show.

i agree, they were young and not very menacing, but
*why* do you think the average age of security was 13?  i was at new world
music theatre the next night for rem, and security was much tighter. there
was no way we could get into any other section other than our own, most of
the security people were ominous-looking men. i think it had something to do
with the fact the the lilith fair crowd is pretty non-threatening (honestly,
we're mostly young girls), while the rem crowd contains more beer-drinking
frat boys- there's more potential for trouble.  i'm telling you i noticed a
difference in security.

>and i don't
>think it means lawn seat people are welcome to sneak up to the tenth >row.
why is that? i'm a high school student, i can't afford to pay $45 for a
pavillion seat.  if there are empty seats and nobody notices, where's the
harm in trying to get a little closer so i can enjoy the show?

>and then to be nauseated by people cheering for sarah louder than ig
>doesn't sit well either.

i know, this was just the feeling i got... i was sitting next to some pretty
obnoxious people, they were *not* ig fans, and i guess i just wanted to be in
a more indigo-girls atmosphere.


>but why is it that a female lead singer with an all male band is looked
>down upon?

i'm an 18 year old female guitar player living in south bend, indiana. i am
acutely aware of the lack of women in the music scene here.  my band competed
in a battle of the bands, and we were the *only* female members of *any* band
there.  on the weekends i go out to the coffeehouses and clubs to see the big
bad boy bands, and they are really good, and really lacking females. there
are no girl musicians here. it affects me every time i go to a show. i can't
help not feeling left out, ok? you may or may not know how this feels.  a
band with a girl bass player or girl drummer is very very rare.  boy
musicians have role models everywhere they look, girls have to look hard to
find one. from a girl's stand point, this really sucks, ok?   a band of men
fronted by a cute little girl whining into the mic is not a a celebration of
women in music.  (and yes i know that is an exaggeration, and i am not
referring to any band in particular, it's just the way it feels sometimes,
ok?)

> if you want all women, go to the womyn's fest in michigan.

i don't want all women.  i'm saying that for a tour that is supposed to be a
"celebration of women in music", there are fewer women musicians than i would
like.

emily

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date:         sat, 21 aug 1999 20:09:03 edt
reply-to:     emistar919@aol.com
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in a message dated 8/21/99 10:22:48 pm, jillyc@hotmail.com wrote:

>who *is* clarity, and why ask emily saliers?
hehe "and i went in seeking clarity"

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date:         sat, 21 aug 1999 20:20:04 -0400
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hello all,
okay, here's the situation:  a few of  you wonderful and generous
listees have put me on your lists of people to receive pics et al, and
i, being me, opened my mail on so many different computers (at work)
that i've lost track of everything.  i know that i'm getting some pics
from karen, but i don't remeber any more than that.  and i know that i'm
getting some stuff from another karen who just left for school in dc,
but i don't know anymore than that.
anyway, i feel like a real sloth here, but i don't want to lose my
chance (amy ray in t..a...n...k   t...o...p...(that's may hands
shaking).  so in the name of generosity of indigo love and everything
that is good in this world, please e-mail me back privately and let me
know what i need to send you and addresses.  the only trades i have
(unfortunately) are shades of indigo, and possibly a copy of "jc
superstar" if i could find a second vcr.
on a lighter note,  thanks to neil for letting us know about the tower
show in philly!  you made my night (well, more than that really)!
nancy

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date:         sat, 21 aug 1999 22:01:20 -0400
reply-to:     mike reynolds <io20742@exploremaine.com>
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subject:      re: (nigc) something else to think about
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>but jilly darlin, if you try the wooden type (you know like the ones we
used
>for our soapbox derby cars) you will feel like you can change the world,
>make everyone get along and you know the tune..


but jilly can change the world and hey, she made sure everyone at newport
had a greart time and got along, and actually she did get a story, but she
forgot - when amy said the song peace tonight was the first played that day
and they were rehearsing in a chapel - i yelled (probably much to the
shagrin of everyone taping "which chapel?" and amy told us.

i think fran and us passed it on the way home.


jilly c. is tres cool.

and i need a boot of the ig newport set.

and everytime i think of suzanne vega, i have this incredibly vivid memory
of jill begging to hear queen aand the solider and how i was yelling in
liverpool, so suzanne played them both...


yes, i think of that every time i think of suzyv's set...


peace-
mike r.

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date:         sat, 21 aug 1999 21:42:58 pdt
reply-to:     diane wong <arle@hotmail.com>
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from: jilly c <jillyc@hotmail.com>
so.  after my best earnest little "emily, tell us a story?" plea went smiled
at but unanswered at newport (which was very laid back-- prime storytime,i'd
think, eh?), shelley, diane, and i went brandishing a sign at spac that said
the same.
but, alack, we went home sunburnt and, ultimately, storyless.
sniffle.

jill & y'all,

i think, before "go", amy attempted to tell a long intro/short story about
the song (in case the other fans didn't hear the story on acoustic cafe
8/98)--so i just took that for our little "tell us a story" sign response.

diane


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date:         sun, 22 aug 1999 01:23:41 edt
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hey,
    well i would have to agree that there really aren't enough women doing
things other than singing.  i also though it was kinda weird at lilith how
most of the bands had female singers and no other women in the band....an
example would be sixpence none the richer.  i'm not trying to say that they
have no right to be at lilith.  but i just think that it would be awesome to
see more women playing bass (like the oh so incredible sara lee) or even
drums.  well i guess i'll just shut up now
all things indigo
karrie

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date:         sun, 22 aug 1999 02:05:37 edt
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i would say the literal soapboxes don't make you feel as tall as the
figurative ones....

unless of course, you've bought the soapbox at sam's wholesale club.....

"put my life in a box and let my imagination run....."

ctofine.....

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date:         sun, 22 aug 1999 03:31:28 -0400
reply-to:     havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com>
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hey, y'all.....

gotta jump in here....ellipses and all (sorry jilly).......

a lot depends on your frame of reference.......i don't think anyone looks
down on chrissie hynde or annie lennox for utilizing male backing
musicians.......

a band is more than just a grouping of musical talents......it's also a
gestalt organism whose sum is hopefully greater than the total of the
individual parts......is there anyone among us who thinks that two solo
artists named amy ray and emily saliers would be an improvement over our
ig???

the best players are the ones who know when not to play........

i was greatly impressed with dave 'goody' goodrich's work as rose
polenzani's accompanist at spac.....which led me to purchase peter mulvey's
'deep blue' cd to check out more of goody's work.......in the process, i was
introduced to another new songwriter/performer (mulvey) whose work i now
admire.....

the key here is that goody listens to what rose and/or peter does.......and
complements their words and melodies with his sympathetic
accompaniment.......

good bass players and drummers are always in demand........bassists perhaps
most of all.......i was definitely impressed with clare kenny's work at
spac, although i found the busy bass line on get out the map to be a bit
distracting.......

(aside to emily from south bend.......i guess if there are no female role
models in your area, you'll just have to work to create one.......somebody
has to be first......)

by the way......those of you who like music that really rocks should check
out our own tara lane's former band, in clover........"after today" imho is
one of the greatest rock singles i've ever heard......it shoulda been,
folks.......

peace, love, and harmony.........
tim

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from: emistar919@aol.com <emistar919@aol.com>
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date: saturday, august 21, 1999 8:05 pm
subject: re: female bands <was chicago lilith>


>
>>but why is it that a female lead singer with an all male band is looked
>>down upon?
>
>i'm an 18 year old female guitar player living in south bend, indiana. i am
>acutely aware of the lack of women in the music scene here.  my band
competed
>in a battle of the bands, and we were the *only* female members of *any*
band
>there.  on the weekends i go out to the coffeehouses and clubs to see the
big
>bad boy bands, and they are really good, and really lacking females. there
>are no girl musicians here. it affects me every time i go to a show. i
can't
>help not feeling left out, ok? you may or may not know how this feels.  a
>band with a girl bass player or girl drummer is very very rare.  boy
>musicians have role models everywhere they look, girls have to look hard to
>find one. from a girl's stand point, this really sucks, ok?   a band of men
>fronted by a cute little girl whining into the mic is not a a celebration
of
>women in music.  (and yes i know that is an exaggeration, and i am not
>referring to any band in particular, it's just the way it feels sometimes,
>ok?)
>
>> if you want all women, go to the womyn's fest in michigan.
>
>i don't want all women.  i'm saying that for a tour that is supposed to be
a
>"celebration of women in music", there are fewer women musicians than i
would
>like.
>
>emily

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date:         sun, 22 aug 1999 04:06:39 -0400
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on sat, 21 aug 1999 emistar919@aol.com wrote:

> there are no girl musicians here. it affects me every time i go to a
> show. i can't help not feeling left out, ok? you may or may not know how
> this feels.  a band with a girl bass player or girl drummer is very very
> rare.  boy musicians have role models everywhere they look, girls have
> to look hard to find one. from a girl's stand point, this really sucks,
> ok?

   i think a common perception of "girl bands" is that they can't really
play their instruments, they just use them as props for the more important
"girl" things to do, like, say, whining into a microphone.
   to be really frank and honest, and oh god this is going to get me
flamed - i've seen a lot of stuff that might lead some people to the
conclusion that's true.
   obviously, if you look hard, there are exceptions.  jennifer batten
played guitar in michael jackson's band, taught at git, and is now touring
with jeff beck (and while he's center-stage...she puts on some fireworks
of her own - he's gentlemanly enough to let her go crazy when she wants).
the sister of the late jon melovin (smashing pumpkins keyboardist), wendy
melovin, has done some brilliant backing work.  the minimalistic riffs
(and soprano "woo-woo"s) on natalie merchant's tigerlilly album are the
result of a lovely lady named jennifer turner. they don't do her playing
justice.  check out the band she fronts called furslide.  obviously -
michelle malone and emily have some mean chops, too.  sara lee rocks hard
on bass.  how could i forget bonnie raitt and susan tedeschi?
   but you can be inspired by men too.  hendrix, dylan, chet atkins,
townsend, clapton, srv, bb king --- they're all worthy of study.  just
because they're the opposite sex doesn't mean they can't be musical role
models.
   take it a step further.  don't even discriminate by instrument.  i know
when i listen to old junior wells harmonica stuff, i learn new things
about music, and i hope my guitar playing reflects that.

   if you want to destroy the above perception, perhaps the best thing you
can do is to study those people you respect - and who play their
instruments the way you want to play yours.  maybe you'll be a role-model,
in the absence of others.

<soapbox>
   i find it hard enough to surround myself with musicians i respect, who
play nice together, and who can stay sober long enough to play a few bars.
if you're doing that, and your music complements each other, then does it
matter what sex, religion, color, species, etc. somebody is?
</soapbox>

   darius

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date:         sun, 22 aug 1999 10:22:36 edt
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indigo girls, sept. 29, 8 p.m., bjcc concert hall,  birmingham, al, $25, on
sale
aug. 28

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date:         sun, 22 aug 1999 11:51:04 -0400
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i heard on a local radio station that the girls are to be at the peace =
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kimcb

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date:         sun, 22 aug 1999 12:18:15 edt
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there is a new show date - i found out about this on the newsgroup.

9/25/99 peace center for the performing arts, greenville sc

tickets went on sale yesterday......  but i just called, and got fifth row
center, so there are still good seats available...  price is $35.00
w/handling charges.

864-467-3000

=)
lisa

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date:         sun, 22 aug 1999 12:32:08 edt
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in a message dated 8/22/99 4:10:29 am eastern daylight time,
dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu writes:

<<   i think a common perception of "girl bands" is that they can't really
play their instruments, they just use them as props for the more important
"girl" things to do, like, say, whining into a microphone.
    to be really frank and honest, and oh god this is going to get me flamed
- i've seen a lot of stuff that might lead some people to the conclusion
that's true. >>

oh, i completely agree! at least for the most part...
   part of the problem is, for every female professional bassist, there are a
million males fighting for the same spot. same with drummers, and lead
guitarists.  part of it is that  boys with an interest in music are
encouraged to join a rock band, or at least learn a rock and roll instrument.
girls, however, are more likely to be shoved infront of a piano, or
encouraged to take up something feminine, like the violin.
   i do percussion in my high school orchestra... i'm the only female
percussionist in the entire school system's music program!  the boys in the
orchestra are mainly woodwinds and brass, with the exception of a few violas,
a cello, and an upright bass.  and at our school's annual "music fest" where
any idiot can get up and perform... all the girls get up and sing sarah
songs, maybe playing the piano too.  the boys all have bands.  it's our
society -- it's got nothing to do with talent, etc.
   it's also possible that a predominently male band has an easier time
getting a recording contract than an all girl band.  or even, look at hole.
for years after kurt died, the media was filled with reports that he had
secretly written all of hole's material.  what is that besides sexism?
*stepping off her own, worn soap box*
~ elizabeth

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date:         sun, 22 aug 1999 13:27:23 -0400
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on sun, 22 aug 1999, e. moranian bolles wrote:

>    part of the problem is, for every female professional bassist, there are a
> million males fighting for the same spot. same with drummers, and lead
> guitarists.

   that's incredibly true.  at the same time - girls tend to stand out in
rock bands.  so if you're looking for exposure, the best thing you can do
is have a "cute chick singer" or the like.
   i think if the girl is on the exact same level as the guy, she's going
to be noticed.  i was reading an interview with courtney love, and she
talked about how a lot of guy guitarists just lock themselves in their
room and hone their chops, and how girls can't do that.
   personally, i think that's a lame excuse.

>  girls, however, are more likely to be shoved infront of a piano, or
> encouraged to take up something feminine, like the violin.

   actually, i think guys tend to be pushed to excel more musically on the
whole.  look at the violin section of any major symphony.  the first chair
is almost always male.  (and named suzuki...*ducking*)

>    it's also possible that a predominently male band has an easier time
> getting a recording contract than an all girl band.

   that's an interesting observation.  but i bet female singer-songwriters
have it easier.

> or even, look at hole.  for years after kurt died, the media was filled
> with reports that he had secretly written all of hole's material.  what
> is that besides sexism?

   i always thought that liz phair had secretly written, and then thrown
away, all of hole's material.  :)

   darius

"integrity can be a yoke, a pain...when your songs are taking you to a
part of town where people don't expect to see you."
   - bono

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date:         sun, 22 aug 1999 13:49:24 -0400
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subject:      re: nigc: female bands

when i read darius' opening paragraphs, i thought, "this guy is gonna need
asbestos underwear"......yet he makes a number of points that i do agree
with, and he also opens up one area that i think might be worthy of further
discusion.......

the problem area, as i perceive it, is in the use of established 'male'
standards to judge female instrumental prowess, or anyone's for that
matter.......is bonnie raitt a great slide player because she copied
mississippi fred macdowell, or because she used what she learned to create
her own, more refined sound?  is there any guy anywhere that plays remotely
like ani difranco?  wendy melvoin played chords in 'purple rain' that i
didn't even know existed......and then there's joni......

an aside......when i first saw clare kenny in her striking black 'desperado'
outfit at spac my mind (and later my ears) told me she was a guy.......it
was only later that a side profile view made me aware of the error of my
assumption......

my advice to aspiring musicians is to learn from those who inspire you, and
then to find your own voice......it took me years to find
mine.......predominately through interacting with a number of extremely
talented women whose writing and playing inspired me to go beyond
myself......

i would definitely echo darius' soapbox comment after working in past years
with musicians who had to get stoned in order to play a gig.......

peace,
tim

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from: hicktruckdriver <dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu>
to: indigo-girls@netspace.org <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
date: sunday, august 22, 1999 4:08 am
subject: nigc: female bands


>   i think a common perception of "girl bands" is that they can't really
>play their instruments, they just use them as props for the more important
>"girl" things to do, like, say, whining into a microphone.
>   to be really frank and honest, and oh god this is going to get me
>flamed - i've seen a lot of stuff that might lead some people to the
>conclusion that's true.
>   obviously, if you look hard, there are exceptions.  <snip>

>   but you can be inspired by men too.  hendrix, dylan, chet atkins,
>townsend, clapton, srv, bb king --- they're all worthy of study.  just
>because they're the opposite sex doesn't mean they can't be musical role
>models.
>   take it a step further.  don't even discriminate by instrument.  i know
>when i listen to old junior wells harmonica stuff, i learn new things
>about music, and i hope my guitar playing reflects that.
>
>   if you want to destroy the above perception, perhaps the best thing you
>can do is to study those people you respect - and who play their
>instruments the way you want to play yours.  maybe you'll be a role-model,
>in the absence of others.
>
><soapbox>
>   i find it hard enough to surround myself with musicians i respect, who
>play nice together, and who can stay sober long enough to play a few bars.
>if you're doing that, and your music complements each other, then does it
>matter what sex, religion, color, species, etc. somebody is?
></soapbox>
>
>   darius
>
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in a message dated 8/22/99 1:30:47 pm eastern daylight time,
dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu writes:

<<    i think if the girl is on the exact same level as the guy, she's going
to be noticed.  i was reading an interview with courtney love, and she
talked about how a lot of guy guitarists just lock themselves in their
room and hone their chops, and how girls can't do that.
    personally, i think that's a lame excuse. >>

but it's true in many ways!  a lot of guys i know deal with pain by locking
themselves in their rooms and playing guitar for hours.  the girls i know
tend to call friends, go out, write or draw in a journal, or even cut
themselves... it's more socially acceptable for a guy to play great blues
guitar than to be able to talk about his feelings, and vice versa for girls.

~ elizabeth

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date:         sun, 22 aug 1999 14:22:35 -0400
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been there.  done that.

tim

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subject: re: nigc: female bands

>but it's true in many ways!  a lot of guys i know deal with pain by locking
>themselves in their rooms and playing guitar for hours.  the girls i know
>tend to call friends, go out, write or draw in a journal, or even cut
>themselves... it's more socially acceptable for a guy to play great blues
>guitar than to be able to talk about his feelings, and vice versa for
girls.
>
>~ elizabeth

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on sun, 22 aug 1999, e. moranian bolles wrote:

> but it's true in many ways!  a lot of guys i know deal with pain by locking
> themselves in their rooms and playing guitar for hours.

   *hunted look*
   i don't know what you're talking about...

> the girls i know tend to call friends, go out, write or draw in a
> journal, or even cut themselves... it's more socially acceptable for a
> guy to play great blues guitar than to be able to talk about his
> feelings, and vice versa for girls.

   if i only played guitar when i was depressed, i wouldn't play very
much.  i practice because i love my guitar, and want to do justice to it.
   ultimately, it boils down to how you prioritize your time.  obviously,
jenn batten and wendy melovin put priorities on being great guitar
players.  socially acceptable or not, they proved it could be done.

   darius

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date:         sun, 22 aug 1999 19:20:54 +0100
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ladeez and gentlemen......

boys and girls.....

people of indefinite age or gender......

anybody who knows me.......

i'm back....... (and i promise to change my sig file soon..... :)    )

john.

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date:         sun, 22 aug 1999 12:31:00 -0700
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i saw the lilith fair songbook for sale in a music
store the other day, and was wondering if anyone on
the list had purchased one, or had a chance to look at
it. i would love to get the music for the harmonies in
twiw with ig, sarah, and jewel, but can't see spending
$20 for one song... anyone who has any feedback,
please reply privately....
thanks!
leslie

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hi all!  through the generousity of a listmember, melissa gordon, the
following ig boots are now available:

waterloo village, stanhope, n. j. 8-6-99 (90-min tape)
with samples of new songs: trouble, gone again, cold beer & remote control,
faye tucker, compromise, sister & go

newport folk festival, newport, rhode island 8-8-99 (90-min tape)
with samples of new songs: trouble, gone again, faye tucker, peace tonight,
sister & go

saratoga, new york, spac, 8-9-99 (100-min tape)
with samples of new songs: cold beer & remote control, gone again, sister,
peace tonight, faye tucker, trouble & go

this is an opportunity for *all newbies* to get free ig boots and begin
building a bootlist.  and for some not-so-newbies to fill in their '99
bootlist.  all you have to do is email one of the dubbers listed below and
ask for a copy of any of the boots listed above.  you will receive
confirmation and directions for sending your sase (self addressed stamped
envelope) so the blank tapes you send will be returned to you with the show.
each tape also gets a liner listing the titles of all the cuts.  if you don't
get one, holler :)

please try to send good quality tapes to the dubbers and try to be patient.
we try to please :)

these dubbers have volunteered to tape the following:

creechal@jmu.edu       -      anna (waterloo village, stanhope, n. j. tape)

sljones1@facstaf.wisc.edu   -   sheryl (newport folk festival, newport, r.i.
tape)

memememi@aol.com   -   lisa (spac, saratoga, new york tape)

you can offer them trades or blanks for a copy of any or all of these tapes.
overflow is going to me so if you hear from me about your sase, that's why.
after 20 requests a piece, i can't expect them to stay glued to their stereos
;)


enjoy!

jude :)

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in a message dated 8/22/1999 11:35:09 am central daylight time,
wishmonstr@aol.com writes:

<< i do percussion in my high school orchestra... i'm the only female
percussionist in the entire school system's music program!  the boys in the
orchestra are mainly woodwinds and brass, with the exception of a few violas,
a cello, and an upright bass.  >>

so true.  way back in 7th grade on the first day of band, i put down
"percussion" as what i wanted to play, having always been rhythm-oriented and
beating on pots and pans, the couch, or whatever i could find.  but alas,
back then, i was meek and easily dissuaded.  my parents were were supportive
of my choice, but several students pulled me aside in band class and said
that the band director for the percussion and brass sections hated girl
drummers and made things as hard as possible on them.  i was scared!  so, i
signed up to play clarinet in concert band instead, as my older sister had.
then, the next year, three girls signed up to play percussion and stuck it
out.  how stupid i was to have let people dissuade me!  in the jazz band the
next year, i played saxophone...and was the only girl, besides our piano
player, in the jazz band.  one day before jazz band practice, i was sitting
at the drum kit practicing things i had heard on my ac/dc back in black album
(yes, i was a hard rocker:).  one of the percussion players came in and
bellowed "get away from that drum set!!!!" and made some sexist remark that i
cannot remember right now.   btw, my parents bought me a snare drum soon
afterward, and later an electric guitar, so i did have an outlet to rock like
i really wanted to!

but, this was back in 1979.  i would have hoped that things had changed for
the better by now.  regardless, if you're a girl and you want to play a
traditionally male instrument, develop a thick skin, and don't let anyone
tell you you can't, or shouldn't, play it.

peace!

joan :-d

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hi!

    thanks so much to jude and all the other wonderful people who are helping
getting the boots out.... just a quick question.. i can't get sheryl's email
to work.. is it just stupid aol or is it the actual address? thanks. ;)

hooray!!!
love-from-a-very-happy-lil-girl-who's-getting-her-first-ig-boots, ;)
katie

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hi,
i was just wondering if anyone who went to lilith in toronto on sat. ran
into the girls downtown afterwards.  2 years ago i understand they went to a
bar downtown... i went there to see if they would go again, but didn't see
them.... just curious if anyone else did.

--shak

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> >who *is* clarity, and why ask emily saliers?
>hehe "and i went in seeking clarity"

doh.  so i'm a little slow.
but based on the quizzical look on emily's face,
i'm not alone here.

whoomp there it is,
jill


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just a little paprika to toss in the stew.

a quote i came across in an old issue of jane magazine
from sonic youth's fuzzy little thurston moore, epitome of snagdom (the
man's like 90% female), commenting on the 'boy band fronted by a girl
singer' phemomenon:

"i'd like to see more women in rock,
and not just women backed by rock."

indeed, thurston.


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so, okay.  a coupla rules for the elliptical amongst you.

when using ellipses to denote the omittance of words in a sentence
or a pause within a sentence, use 3 periods.
as in,
"i don't understand why you all use... so... many... ellipses."

when using those little dotties to denote the ommittance of words and the
ensuing start of a *new sentence*, use 4 periods.
as in,
"i don't understand why you all use so many ellipses.... but at least it
gives me something to post about."

and them's your choices.  3 or 4 or none.
please forgive me, but i just can't sit here on my wee little cardboard tide
box and watch such blatant ellipses abuse.

(to say nothing of my disdain for excess of exclamation points.)

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peachy706@aol.com wrote:
> i can't get sheryl's email
> to work.. is it just stupid aol or is it the actual address? thanks.

try this.  i think this one works.
sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu
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i think the one below is wrong.

sljones1@facstaf.wisc.edu

this one has only one "f" in the address.  i believe the correct address
has two "f's".

elaine

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just wondering-- did the girls go on for the encore? *was* there an encore? i
ended up leaving early.

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hi folks,

this was sent to the news-only list.  please direct your
replies to the original sender at nakedeye10@aol.com, not
to me...

-sherlyn

---begin forwarded message---
>from: nakedeye10@aol.com
>date: fri, 20 aug 1999 12:09:00 edt
>
>i got a call the other day from someone who has a third row, center pair of
>tix for the denver lilith on sunday, august 29th.  if you want to know more,
>drop me an email at nakedeye10@aol.com.
>
>lauren
>

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hi folks,

this was sent to the news-only list.  please direct your
replies to the original sender at nakedeye10@aol.com, not
to me...

-sherlyn

---begin forwarded message---
>date: sun, 22 aug 1999 11:26:12 edt
>to: ig-news@smoe.org
>from: nakedeye10@aol.com
>
>hey ya'll,
>
>i was at a conference of aaa radio programmers over the past few days.  one
>of the events yesterday was a rating and discussion of various songs.
(would
>you play this song on your station - light, medium, or heavy rotation?  what
>do you like/not like about it?  why does it or does it not fit your
>format/target audience?)
>
>one of the songs was peace train, the new emily penned single.
>
>of the 12 songs that were "on the griddle," they ranked in a tie for the
>second highest rating, and that was *without* most people (myself included,
>i'm embarrassed to say) knowing it was ig.
>
>as for release, the guy from epic said that they still weren't sure of a
>release date.
>
>lauren
>(who had a great time seeing melissa in a club on friday night, and who
>encourages everyone to be looking for a 14 yr old blues/rock phenom by the
>name of shannon curfman.)

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hey folks,

this was posted to the newsgroup...

-sherlyn

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to: underdog@earthlink.net

from: jaydebeau@aol.com (jaydebeau)
newsgroups: alt.music.indigo-girls
subject: live version of three hits
date: 22 aug 1999 21:15:29 gmt

... along with live tracks from artists such as the gin blossoms, ben harper,
bruce cockburn, billy pilgrim and kenny loggins (the house at pooh corner).
look here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=148903149

thanks for your interest!

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please note the correction for sheryl's addy.  she is the branch for the nff
'99 boot:

sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu

~ jude :)

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date:    sun, 22 aug 1999 04:06:39 -0400
from:    hicktruckdriver <dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu>
subject: nigc: female bands

on sat, 21 aug 1999 emistar919@aol.com wrote:

> there are no girl musicians here. it affects me every time i go to a
> show. i can't help not feeling left out, ok? you may or may not know how
> this feels.  a band with a girl bass player or girl drummer is very very
> rare.  boy musicians have role models everywhere they look, girls have
> to look hard to find one. from a girl's stand point, this really sucks,
> ok?

to which darius sez:

   i think a common perception of "girl bands" is that they can't really
play their instruments, they just use them as props for the more important
"girl" things to do, like, say, whining into a microphone.
   to be really frank and honest, and oh god this is going to get me
flamed - i've seen a lot of stuff that might lead some people to the
conclusion that's true.

actually, being a rabid conoisseur of all things girl but especially girl
bands, i have to agree with you. there is a *shitloadandahalf* of pretty
poor quality girl band music. the thing that amazes me is, it is fully
recognized as such and never gets any real ezposure or airplay. the nasty,
poor quality, really baaaad stuff sung by guy bands still sometimes makes
it on the radio and more!!!! i reference: le backstreet boys, le 98
degress, le n sync, etc.

my opinions only, of course...but see? crappy girl bands never seem to get
anywhere. crappy guy bands sometimes still do! amazing! because even if
they suk, people like to see young virile doods pounding away on a guitar
and screaming about stuff. women doing that in a non-quality way is just
too much to bear, for some reason.

   obviously, if you look hard, there are exceptions.  jennifer batten
played guitar in michael jackson's band, taught at git, and is now touring
with jeff beck (and while he's center-stage...she puts on some fireworks
of her own - he's gentlemanly enough to let her go crazy when she wants).

wow, what a 'great guy'!!!!!!!...he steps back to be a 'gentleman' and
allow her to display her talent!!! that's a pretty condescending attitude,
i believe.


the sister of the late jon melovin (smashing pumpkins keyboardist), wendy
melovin, has done some brilliant backing work.

small pet peeve: it's melvoin, not melovin. i know, picky picky :) i just
know how id feel if someone called me susan marino just cause my name's
weird!

the minimalistic riffs
(and soprano "woo-woo"s) on natalie merchant's tigerlilly album are the
result of a lovely lady named jennifer turner. they don't do her playing
justice.  check out the band she fronts called furslide.  obviously -
michelle malone and emily have some mean chops, too.  sara lee rocks hard
on bass.  how could i forget bonnie raitt and susan tedeschi?
   but you can be inspired by men too.  hendrix, dylan, chet atkins,
townsend, clapton, srv, bb king --- they're all worthy of study.  just
because they're the opposite sex doesn't mean they can't be musical role
models.

this is true, and a very well made point. however, it is incredibly
important for young girls to have role models in all walks of life to look
to and aspire to, and music has been so male dominated for so long, it's
only fair to want and expect for *women* playing instruments in a quality
way and singing in a quality way to have lots of exposure...little girls
don't necessarily look at the backstreet boys and say "i can be that!" but
they might (gasp) say that about britney spears. i for one hope they say
that about emily and amy more often, but she is the bht of the
moment...so,my point is, just like all this coverage of the nba and the us
women's soccer team has been attributed to increasing girls participation
in sports, seeing female musicians really has made...and i think will
continue to make... a difference in how many women are involved and
successful in rock and roll and eventually control some of the production,
press etc in a meaningful way


(scissors out a bit)

<soapbox>
   i find it hard enough to surround myself with musicians i respect, who
play nice together, and who can stay sober long enough to play a few bars.
if you're doing that, and your music complements each other, then does it
matter what sex, religion, color, species, etc. somebody is?
</soapbox>

   darius

i'd say sometimes yes, it does, but when the typical experience of people
"your sex" has been to be belittled, or dismissed as a non-serious
musician, or stared at and whispered about when you go into a guitar
store...... i like your world a lot darius and agree with the way it spins,
mine just doesn't always....and until then, my money, support and energy
will go to support women musicians first and foremost. they need my money
more than the backstreet boys anyway

totally respectfully, sus

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what is the root or history of the term "soapbox" used in this format?
anyone know?
i'd be interested to find out, because i'm sure it goes back some long time
to some old fashioned movement, like the etimology of the term "sabotage"
coming from laborers getting annoyed at bad working conditions in some
scandinavian country and throwing their sabots (shoes) into the machines.
anyone know?!?!
thanks
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> what is the root or history of the term "soapbox" used in this format?
> anyone know?

        my understanding is that in the years before the revolution,
american colonists would climb onto soapboxes in the marketplace to
elevate themselves above the crowds (they probably weren't extra-strength
tide boxes, which would explain why they worked a little better than
jill's) and make political speeches of the old-fashioned kind - that is,
speeches about morals and good government as opposed to electmeplease
and whatintern?
        and the thing about sabotage is really interesting, carol.
        mandy


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>from what i understand, sidewalk preachers used to use soapboxes (like you use for derby cars, not modern fun cardboard boxes with neato plastic handles) to be able to be seen above the crowd, and so they could capture more attention for their spiel.
so, eventually, the phrase 'getting on one's soapbox' came to mean preaching on a particular subject - no in the religious sense, but in the 'listen to me, i'm the authority on this' sense.

-geoff

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to:     indigo-girls@netspace.org
subject:        nigc: soapboxes- etimology?!?!?

what is the root or history of the term "soapbox" used in this format?
anyone know?
i'd be interested to find out, because i'm sure it goes back some long time
to some old fashioned movement, like the etimology of the term "sabotage"
coming from laborers getting annoyed at bad working conditions in some
scandinavian country and throwing their sabots (shoes) into the machines.
anyone know?!?!
thanks
carol


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on sun, 22 aug 1999, sus wrote:

> the thing that amazes me is, it is fully recognized as such and never
> gets any real ezposure or airplay. the nasty, poor quality, really
> baaaad stuff sung by guy bands still sometimes makes it on the radio and
> more!!!! i reference: le backstreet boys, le 98 degress, le n sync, etc.

   the aforementioned got there because they were invented by the
industry, thus had an easy shoo-in past the pearly gates that keep the
hordes out.

> wow, what a 'great guy'!!!!!!!...he steps back to be a 'gentleman' and
> allow her to display her talent!!! that's a pretty condescending attitude,
> i believe.

   perhaps i wasn't clear.  before y'all burn your yardbirds cds because
jeff beck is a fugginbigot, let me explain...  :)
   how many solo artists do you know that really let their backups cut
loose?  i don't believe sarah mclachlan does with her guitarists (male),
even though they can.  heck, for a grrl that came up with this whole
lilith thing, she doesn't even let camille henderson (female) do anything
more than the "do-dee-dum-dum-dum"s and not-well-mixed (damn male
soundmen) backup harmonies.
   in fact, the only other big-time solo artist (besides beck) i've seen
who really lets their instrumentalists go wild and crazy with extended
solos and such is bb king. so the fact that batten is female and beck is
male is really irrelevant - other than the fact that a supporting
instrumentalist for the person clapton calls "the best guitarist in
the world" is a girl.  and from the occasional astounded looks on his face
during her solos, she's can show him a thing or five.  methinks that
ain't too shabby.

> small pet peeve: it's melvoin, not melovin. i know, picky picky :)

   ooops.  :)

> seeing female musicians really has made...and i think will continue to
> make... a difference in how many women are involved and successful in
> rock and roll and eventually control some of the production, press etc
> in a meaningful way

   i sureasheck hope so.  the question is: there are women there.  why
aren't we trumpeting their virtues?  i'm sure yer all sick of my ranting
about jenn batten, but she's truly amazing - why has nobody here heard of
her or wendy melvoin, or...

   darius

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heroin limeys in france making a southern amphetamine road-house blues
album."
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hey, all!

i'm back after being unceremoniously dumped from the list (still not quite
sure what happened).

i've been back on for a few days, and i have yet to read even one measly
mention of come on now social.  i mean, out of a hundred or so messages, not
one peep?  has the buzz died down for now, did i miss the party, or have
y'all not heard?  (ha.)

anyway, catch me up!  there's a new album coming out in september, and i
want to hear some chatter, people!  you should all be a-twitter!  you should
be speculating!  you should be engaging in baseless prediction and premature
opining!  help me out!  what do we think of the name?  the song selection?
anyone seen any cover art?  hidden track?  what's up with that?

okay, sorry.   i was just ready all fired up to bathe in the excitement of
new album anticipation, and i ain't seen none.  so let me know the
consensus, if there is any.

love,
      justin the prodigal son

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i've got two tickets for sale to the ig concert in nashville on
september 24.  anyone interested?  they are section 103 (that's amy's
side) row p, seats 3-4 i believe.  the total cost is $79.70.  if you
are interested please email me at lpisa@yahoo.com.
thanks very much.
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i think the essence of this argument comes down to where you fall on the issue
of how much of it is society's responsibility-to/fault-for-failing-to develop
women in heretofore underrepresented positions such as bass player, guitar
player, drummer, etc.  what you want is a completely equal opportunity, but how
much of what people choose for themselves has been socialized into them?  left
to develop on their own terms, male and female artists won't necessarily develop
in exactly the same direction, anyway.  [it may be heresy here, but sarah
mclaughlan does absolutely nothing for me -- i went to both lilith shows in
atlanta and left both times before she came on.  the appeal of jewel is
similarly incomprehensible to me.  i don't think i would have even hung around
long enough to discover an appreciation for emily's music if she were just a
solo artist.  but things like being on this list have gone a long way to help me
get a much better feel for female perspectives on things.]

when you have mostly men deciding who gets opportunities (bookings, record
deals, airplay, etc.) you inevitably run into the failures of their perception
to properly value things from a non-male perspective.  you can improve the
situation both by getting more non-males into decision-making roles as well as
enlightening the ones that are already there.  but there's another part to it:
you also have to get the developing women to resist the socializing effect of
how the world perceives them and their potential.  it's hard to maintain your
own independent self-perception and not be effected by how society perceives you
(and learn not to take society at its word in evaluating you), but the sooner
you're able to do that the better.

i also think that pushing for more women role models to help young women realize
the possibility of their potential isn't the ultimate goal, either.  if you can
only take inspiration from someone who is of the same sex, race, (fill in your
own demographic attribute) in order to believe "i can do it, too", then you're
missing the point.  amy and emily have achieved their success they have for
reasons that are more individual than their demographics.  they aren't the only
female/lesbian/singer-songwriters from atlanta.  you have to look beyond that to
understand why it happened for them and not the next one.

ron

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the horror of the spice girls.
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subject:      women in rock?

random ramblings from the rock iconoclast...

as i see it, the major record companies (in rock and in country music as
well) are far more concerned with finding pretty faces and attractive bodies
to flaunt in videos than they are with finding new and innovative artists,
male or female...

rose polenzani's music grows on me more and more with each listening.  i'm
so happy that i had the opportunity to see her perform at saratoga
springs...

the fresh tracks sampler is another major find for me.  it's been in my
living room cd player for days.  there is a lot of vital, creative music out
there if you look for it, and a lot of it is being created by women...

btw...i spelled wendy melvoin's name right on several occasions.  i even
owned a wendy and lisa cd at one time...

citing women instrumentalists, anyone ever heard of nina gerber?  tret fure?
lee satterfield?  marcia ball?  debbie davies?  sharon shannon?  eileen
ivers?  laura love?  rory block?  ruth underwood?  katie webster?  ann
rabson?  mindy jostyn?  kristina olson?  (just to name a few)...

there was a woman named rindy ross who was the frontperson and sax player
for an 80's band called quarterflash (anyone remember harden my heart?  find
another fool?  valerie?)  ubl.com has their self-titled cd for $5.99 and
those three tracks are available for listening with realaudio...

my friend cass postek is the amazing drummer for a local all-woman
rock/blues band called ethyl...she's also a damn fine guitarist...check out
their website at http://hometown.aol.com/ethylrocks/home.html

with the internet as a resource and new technologies such as realaudio,
liquidaudio, and mp3's, plus word-of-mouth recommendations from fans on
music lists like this one, it's possible to discover a whole world of
exciting music away from the narrow constraints of the major label money
machines and their stranglehold on the radio industry...

it's a good time for music-lovers and musicians alike...

peace, love, and harmony...
tim

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happy happy to the august 23 - 29 clan :)

august 24 ('79)
arjuna greist <agreist@calvin.pitzer.edu>
"are you on fire, from the years? what would you give for your kid fears?"


and (gotta love my liberties, huh?)

my sweet beautiful love, leslie...who is a whole 3 days younger than me
(8/25).
hope your first day back was wonderful, sweetheart...and we'll celebrate
our birthdays when we are together again...soon.  i love you. :)  -- hoppy

8/25 - suzanne!  you just rock girly!  happy birthday!  when are we
partying?

8/28 - carley - happy bday buffy lover!  hope you get everything your
heart desires!

*smirks*

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audra
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hi y'all,

this is for all the australian listees.  i was checking out a hmv music
store today and in with the indigo girls cds was an empty case with a
note inside reading "new indigo girls album release october 18, reserve
your copy now"  so reserve your copy now guys so they order heaps.

annie

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                        and a remote control"
                                -emily saliers

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                        of culture that swoop like
                 vultures, eating us away, eating us away,
                    eating us away to our extinction"
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($2 for the tape & padded mailer, $1 for postage there & $1 for postage
back)  i'll pay postage to mail the boots to you.  if you heavily object to
selling boots (even though i'm not making a profit)
>>>>

hfk's,

tape liquidation or tape sales are a frequent course of evolution for some
traders out there when they are switching to different formats or want to
just get rid of them for whatever reason.  when a tape is sold it is sold
for only the cost of the tape and the postage to get them there, and nothing
else.  tapes usually are liquidated for $1.50 - $2.00.  (i have seen
slightly more, but this was for only high quality tapes)  that includes
maxell xliis tapes and other slightly more expensive tapes than the standard
maxell xlii ones.

anyone can liquidate their tapes any way they want to, but my suggestion for
selling 10 tapes - would be: 10 (tapes) x $1.75 = $17.50 plus postage to get
it to the person = $17.50 + $2.50 = $20.00.  (i'm estimating the postage of
$2.50 in this case)

so please, this is a standard practice - it's not just my opinion - and
check this link just for a summary of tape selling:
http://www.gdlists.org/resour/part4.html
(scroll down to: "buying tapes at cost")

thanks for your time,
-mkc
a+e=ig

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>on sun, 22 aug 1999, sus wrote:
>
>> the thing that amazes me is, it is fully recognized as such and never
>> gets any real ezposure or airplay. the nasty, poor quality, really
>> baaaad stuff sung by guy bands still sometimes makes it on the radio and
>> more!!!! i reference: le backstreet boys, le 98 degress, le n sync, etc.
>
>   the aforementioned got there because they were invented by the
>industry, thus had an easy shoo-in past the pearly gates that keep the
>hordes out.

partly true, but you can only disguise lack of talent just so much...look
at milli vanilli for example. so part of it is, these guys are what people
(young girls anyway) want to see,because that's what they exepct, and i
would argue that's a self fulfilling prohecy. the only fabulously
successful packaged girl band in recent memory, the spice girls (retch),
clearly could not sustain the momentum. i can only hope the same is true
for these guys......
>
>> wow, what a 'great guy'!!!!!!!...he steps back to be a 'gentleman' and
>> allow her to display her talent!!! that's a pretty condescending attitude,
>> i believe.
>
>   perhaps i wasn't clear.  before y'all burn your yardbirds cds because
>jeff beck is a fugginbigot, let me explain...  :)
>   how many solo artists do you know that really let their backups cut
>loose?  i don't believe sarah mclachlan does with her guitarists (male),
>even though they can.  heck, for a grrl that came up with this whole
>lilith thing, she doesn't even let camille henderson (female) do anything
>more than the "do-dee-dum-dum-dum"s and not-well-mixed (damn male
>soundmen) backup harmonies.
>   in fact, the only other big-time solo artist (besides beck) i've seen
>who really lets their instrumentalists go wild and crazy with extended
>solos and such is bb king.

you've never seen ani difranco, have ya? or lauryn hill, or shawn colvin,
or patti smith? all these performers are known for highlighting their
backup bands (and in the case of ani, their opening bands!) almost as much
as themselves....

so the fact that batten is female and beck is
>male is really irrelevant - other than the fact that a supporting
>instrumentalist for the person clapton calls "the best guitarist in
>the world" is a girl.  and from the occasional astounded looks on his face
>during her solos, she's can show him a thing or five.  methinks that
>ain't too shabby.

it's not too shabby. but making a special case of it means you've seen way
too many egohead male guys fronting bands, in my opinion !!! you expect
them to hide them in the back, instead of expecting them to showcase their
talent.
>
>> small pet peeve: it's melvoin, not melovin. i know, picky picky :)
>
>   ooops.  :)
>
>> seeing female musicians really has made...and i think will continue to
>> make... a difference in how many women are involved and successful in
>> rock and roll and eventually control some of the production, press etc
>> in a meaningful way
>
>   i sureasheck hope so.  the question is: there are women there.  why
>aren't we trumpeting their virtues?  i'm sure yer all sick of my ranting
>about jenn batten, but she's truly amazing - why has nobody here heard of
>her or wendy melvoin, or...
>
>   darius

because i think, they are backup musicians....they don't have their own
bands, and altho they do solo stuff, it doesn't get much promotion or
airplay. people need exposure...easy exposure....to female artists and
their work, and the problem is, you usually have to go seek it out on the
tip of a savvy listener like you....word of mouth's great but generally not
enough ya know? so women need to be in more positions of control of their
careers and their promotion. and have more money. it's a vicious cycle....
sus

who can hear y'all, and wont write any more on this topic. darius, you get
the last word if you want it ;)

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date:         mon, 23 aug 1999 09:40:12 -0400
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check out the cathy richardson band out of chicago.  i think cathy, who sings
and plays guitar, is the only grrl, but she is the band.  and she's a dyke!
nancy

havanamoon wrote:

> random ramblings from the rock iconoclast...
>
> as i see it, the major record companies (in rock and in country music as
> well) are far more concerned with finding pretty faces and attractive bodies
> to flaunt in videos than they are with finding new and innovative artists,
> male or female...
>
> rose polenzani's music grows on me more and more with each listening.  i'm
> so happy that i had the opportunity to see her perform at saratoga
> springs...
>
> the fresh tracks sampler is another major find for me.  it's been in my
> living room cd player for days.  there is a lot of vital, creative music out
> there if you look for it, and a lot of it is being created by women...
>
> btw...i spelled wendy melvoin's name right on several occasions.  i even
> owned a wendy and lisa cd at one time...
>
> citing women instrumentalists, anyone ever heard of nina gerber?  tret fure?
> lee satterfield?  marcia ball?  debbie davies?  sharon shannon?  eileen
> ivers?  laura love?  rory block?  ruth underwood?  katie webster?  ann
> rabson?  mindy jostyn?  kristina olson?  (just to name a few)...
>
> there was a woman named rindy ross who was the frontperson and sax player
> for an 80's band called quarterflash (anyone remember harden my heart?  find
> another fool?  valerie?)  ubl.com has their self-titled cd for $5.99 and
> those three tracks are available for listening with realaudio...
>
> my friend cass postek is the amazing drummer for a local all-woman
> rock/blues band called ethyl...she's also a damn fine guitarist...check out
> their website at http://hometown.aol.com/ethylrocks/home.html
>
> with the internet as a resource and new technologies such as realaudio,
> liquidaudio, and mp3's, plus word-of-mouth recommendations from fans on
> music lists like this one, it's possible to discover a whole world of
> exciting music away from the narrow constraints of the major label money
> machines and their stranglehold on the radio industry...
>
> it's a good time for music-lovers and musicians alike...
>
> peace, love, and harmony...
> tim
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date:         mon, 23 aug 1999 10:59:00 -0400
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hkf's,

just updated my site with the current tour info including the birmingham &
greenville shows.

a+e=ig
-mkc

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date:         mon, 23 aug 1999 11:05:48 -0400
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hkf's,

sorry for the additional post...  but please let me know if there are any
errors at all on my page or if the show is sold out - just so i can correct
the info and make sure there's no panicky folks out there...

thanks for all of your help!
a+e=ig
-mkc

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anybody know what it costs to be a 'peace keeper' so you can get advance
tickets?

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scratch that request - if anyone tries to order through the website
(http://www.peacecenter.org) for this show, don't be discouraged - the show
is not listed and it's not part of their regular season.  tickets *are*
onsale now, and you don't have to be a 'peacekeeper' to get em.  i just got
13th row center (it's 11:05am mon.) - fyi.  there's a 1-800 number you can
call... 1-800-888-7768.

that's all.  anyone who'd like to roadtrip from central va or all points
south to greenville along i85, let me know!

-tara

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hkf's,

does anyone have any more info/confirmation about this show.  thanks for
your help.  the website (no info on it) is below:
http://www.electricfactory.com/venues/towerpage.html

a+e=ig
-mkc

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i just wanted to let you know that philadelphia dates have been announced
for the tower theater oct 4th and 5th.  tickets go on sale sat. aug 28th.
hope this helps!

thanks,
jen

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amen, brother!  if you pay more than cost & postage it also might get into
legal technicalities...ie.. royalties etc.

melissa
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>($2 for the tape & padded mailer, $1 for postage there & $1 for postage
>back)  i'll pay postage to mail the boots to you.  if you heavily object to
>selling boots (even though i'm not making a profit)
>>>>>
>
>hfk's,
>
>tape liquidation or tape sales are a frequent course of evolution for some
>traders out there when they are switching to different formats or want to
>just get rid of them for whatever reason.  when a tape is sold it is sold
>for only the cost of the tape and the postage to get them there, and
nothing
>else.  tapes usually are liquidated for $1.50 - $2.00.  (i have seen
>slightly more, but this was for only high quality tapes)  that includes
>maxell xliis tapes and other slightly more expensive tapes than the
standard
>maxell xlii ones.
>
>anyone can liquidate their tapes any way they want to, but my suggestion
for
>selling 10 tapes - would be: 10 (tapes) x $1.75 = $17.50 plus postage to
get
>it to the person = $17.50 + $2.50 = $20.00.  (i'm estimating the postage of
>$2.50 in this case)
>
>so please, this is a standard practice - it's not just my opinion - and
>check this link just for a summary of tape selling:
>http://www.gdlists.org/resour/part4.html
>(scroll down to: "buying tapes at cost")
>
>thanks for your time,
>-mkc
>a+e=ig
>
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>http://home.earthlink.net/~mcunningham5/indigotour.html
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one thing that impressed us the most when we saw john mellencamp at the
gorge earlier this year was how much he shared the stage with his band. his
backup vocal got to do an entire song. all his members had strong solos. it
was really quite impressive how he was acknowledging that he certainly
didn't make it where he is today alone. plus, they all seemed to have such a
wonderful rapport. it was like one big happy family.

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> >   in fact, the only other big-time solo artist (besides beck) i've seen
> >who really lets their instrumentalists go wild and crazy with extended
> >solos and such is bb king.

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hello all,
anyone have advice re getting the best possible seats?  in the past i've
purchased over the phone, but then i noticed that lots of people on this
list got great seats.  please let me know how.  i can't stand to see the
girls from so far away again...i think it might kill me...especially
after the sst, when i got to (twice) stand about 10 rows back of amy,
and at the 97 chicago lilith when i somehow managed to get 3rd row
(amy's side, of course) when she was gorgeously tanned with a
white-v-neck t-shirt and tight levi's....ohh...
anyway, please advise
thanks,
nancy

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hey everyone,
i was listening to one of my ig tapes that i've had stashed away somewhere
for months and i started to wonder what. if any, your thoughts are on the
song "falling star"? it's an amy song off of one of the early recordings,
i'm not sure which one. i don't know if this has been discussed on the list
yet or not. in one part of the song she sings about "emily". is this person
actually emily or is it another 'emily'? i was just wondering what your
thoughts were on this particular song.

take care,
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>but it's true in many ways!  a lot of guys i know deal with pain by
>locking themselves in their rooms and playing guitar for hours.  ... >it's
more socially acceptable for >a guy to play great blues guitar >than to be
able to talk about his >feelings, and vice versa for
>girls.
>
>~ elizabeth

i think this is a good observation, but i think lots of women get obsessed
about their music (_and_ write in journals, express their feelings to
friends etc..!). you know i spent the entire day yesterday working on my
guitar stuff and i'm not especially in pain or anything else - i just love
to play and people have to drag me away once i get started. i think girls
and women are susceptible to this as much as men (aren't they?).

if a woman's goal is to be in music, she's just gotta channel her pain that
way and/or do whatever else it takes to practice as much as possible.

i don't think the problem is that women are held back in music at most
levels if they get a chance to show their chops (though i hear that women
were banned from auditioning for some of the european symphonies until
recently). i just think that for some weird reason they don't get seriously
involved, especially in rock music. this may be because, as several list
members pointed out, the typical instruments in rock bands aren't
"feminine". also, the way bands form and the usual local music network
involves a bit of hanging out together informally, and sometimes this works
out to be more of a "guys" atmosphere. i certainly feel that when i go down
to my local guitar store. usually i'm the only woman except for a few kids'
mothers. i don't really fit in, and i'm not quite good enough on guitar yet
to get into the treehouse club on a technicality. i used to be good enough
on saxophone and i was never held back from the "in" club then.

it's a social thing in rock/pop music, not a musical one (imo). btw - there
are a lot of women in folk. is it 50/50? it would be interesting to compare
the social setting surrounding each popular music genre and compare the
number of women involved in it as musicians.

-sue

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keep your eye on this url:
<http://concertwire.com/newshows/newshs.html>
it lists the chattanooga and nashville dates and says "knoxville date tba
soon!"
----------------------------------------------------------
sheryl jones
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bootleg page: http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/3349/boots.htm

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hi everyone,

after reading this part of an email, which was sent to the melissa etheridge
list, i was wondering did something happen between amy & melissa or am i
date: tue, 31 aug 1999 12:51:03 +0000
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reading too much into it?

    mle is becoming more and more commercial but was it ever any
    different. i appreciated this stimulating discussion. interesting that igs
    are releasing their new cd a week or so before mle's. amy ray is probably
    smirking about that - if she cares)

any information would be appreciated.

thanks,
sue

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hi all,

i have been granted the chance to be backstage at the
milwaukee lilith so i will not be needing my ticket. i
have one general admission (lawn seat) available.
anyone interested? will sell for 30$ (screw the
ticketbastard charges).

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jilly girl you aint right sometimes......teehee...ooops i used too many
............'s

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
peace love & indigo light
your friend
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>so, okay.  a coupla rules for the elliptical amongst you.
>
>when using ellipses to denote the omittance of words in a sentence
>or a pause within a sentence, use 3 periods.
>as in,
>"i don't understand why you all use... so... many... ellipses."
>
>when using those little dotties to denote the ommittance of words and the
>ensuing start of a *new sentence*, use 4 periods.
>as in,
>"i don't understand why you all use so many ellipses.... but at least it
>gives me something to post about."
>
>and them's your choices.  3 or 4 or none.
>please forgive me, but i just can't sit here on my wee little cardboard
tide
>box and watch such blatant ellipses abuse.
>
>(to say nothing of my disdain for excess of exclamation points.)
>
>*j
>
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hkf's
  well, i am here at college, and today i had a talk with one of my new
professors.  we were discussing heros and mentors, and if they are
good/healthy to have.
  most of the class said they had a hero/mentor, then i raised my hand
and asked if it was really good to have a certain person to idolize.  i
gave the example that you put that person on such a high pedistol (sp?)
that you expect them to be perfect, and when you find out they aren't,
you are somewhat crushed.
  i used the example of my best-friend at newport, seeing the girls.
she had emily on such a high pedistol, that when she finally saw em up
close, she was kinda crushed.  it hit her that emily is not as perfect
as my friend thought she was.  i try not to put too much into heros or
mentors, or if i do, i tend to stay away from the person i idolize for
that exact reason.  i try to pull what is good from every person, but i
also realize they are only human and are not perfect.
  if anyone has a different oppinion, feel free to email me.
  thanks for your time.

stephanie

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just got back from the toronto lilith and i have to say, i was pretty amazed,
having not seen the girls in two years. thanks to dan, who is awesome and
words can not express my gratitude, we got to go to both days.  i am happy to
say that ig changed their set, allowing us to see two very different shows.
    i was disappointed to hear  that there was no daemon site because we were
in canada, so i didn't get a sampler <sniff>
    from reading posts about chicago, it sounds like we were at the same
show....the venue was big, not very many of those attending were ig fans
(especially on sunday), and there was minimal, if any, "chatter", though i
have to admit that saturday's show had slightly more then sunday's (which,
for some reason ig played *before* the dixie chicks, as opposed to after,
like on sat.  any ideas why?).
    even the setlists were similar, though mixed up a bit.  on sat they
played, in no particular order:  galileo, go, love's recovery (with sarah),
get out the map, gone again, peace tonight, shame on you, rocking in the free
world (with k's choice), and closer to fine, in which deborah cox and natalie
from the dixie chicks sang verses.
    sunday: galileo, tried to be true, get out the map, three hits, peace
tonight, faye tucker, loves recovery, go, and closer to fine.
    i was amazed by faye tucker, i thought that amy rocked.  she seems to
leave herself when she gets into songs like that.....like she is some where
else entirely!  i also liked peace tonight and thought rockin in the free
world, was  just that, rockin!
    hi to everyone on the list that i got the pleasure to meet. thanks again
to dan!!!
    waiting for the fall tour!
mary

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date:         mon, 23 aug 1999 21:37:34 edt
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alright so today i just randomly im'd someone who had the indigo girls, ani,
dar, joni, etc. in her profile. turns out we were at the same concert, in the
same section, and most likely in the same row (she can't remember). anyways,
i just thought that was weird... another thing that made my day great was
that i heard 2 ig songs this morning (shame on you and it's alright) so that
started my day off awesomely! and then in the mail i find "live at the uptown
lounge" waiting for me. can life get any better? i think not.
later!
~alyssa

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hey everyone!!  i have 2 extra rem tix for the september 11th show at the
tweeter center.  they are in section 8 row d.  just asking what i paid plus
ticketmaster fees....$47.50 each.

peace to all tonight,
chris

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re: ... or . . . . or whatever

jilly, you are silly

tonight i had a long time friend over who i haven't seen in ages - she
graduated high school a year behind me but we hung out with the same
group, so she insisted upon looking at my old high school year book -
what a hoot!  flashback to the seventies, man.  pages and pages of those
cool afros on those cool boys, those cool polyester flowered, skin tight
button down shirts and skin tight polyester bell bottoms . . .   and i
laugh when i see re-runs of the brady bunch, but i actually lived it!
eewww.  we howled so much that my kids came in the room to see what the
ruckus was about.  they soon joined in the laughter after seeing my high
school picture, calling me a "marcia brady wannabe".  oh, was i hideous
in high school - but i thought i was sooo cooool and hip.
  so what i wanted to say was that i actually graduated with a girl
named "sheryl jones" and another named "lisa dupre".  cool, huh?
could it be  . . . ?  nah . . .  but then again . . . could it . . . ?

elaine - i will never type another elipse without jill's image clouding
my thoughts <sigh>

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the heroes and mentors in my life.

i've had quite a few...and, if you guys and gals will be patient, i'll list
them.

dan stone:

my 8th grade history teacher--who taught me that it was okay to be "weird'
and to always take a chance.  he also taught me to love class camping trips.

wayne bradley:

my theatre technical director in college--he taught me that i didn't always
have to be perfect--and, to love what i did--no matter what part i was taking
in the production.  he hated ny--that was his "downfall," and, god knows...he
wasn't perfect--but, i named my first cat after him, anyway.

catherine eaker:

the first person who let me be her "student director.  she taught me to love
theatre--she wasn't always perfect, either--but, she told me a great
truth--that i would find my 20's harder than my 30's and that i could be the
best writer on this planet, even if no one else liked my writing or my ideas.

jimmy steen:

my best friend in the entire world.  god knows, neither of us is
perfect--but, his struggle with his studies made me believe that if he could
stick it out, i could, too.  he is my constant inspiration, my rock, my
heart, my soul.  and, i don't ever want to live more than two hours away from
this amazing boy.

fran valentine:

my "manager" at work.  she taught me that i didn't always have to be
perfect--that it was okay to get drunk and purge.  she recently moved a time
zone away--and, god knows, i miss her....but, i know that i can still learn
from her.  she also taught me the virtue of patience.

heroes don't have to be perfect, neither do your mentors--they just have to
inspire you.  and, these wonderful people that i've mentioned have done this
for me and more.  they are people--they have bad days--they are sometimes
moody.  they aren't perfect.

however, these amazing individuals have added to the threads of the quilt
that makes up my crazy life--and, i will forever love them for this.

those are my thoughts.....

ctofine

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date:         tue, 24 aug 1999 19:10:52 +0900
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hi everyone!

it's me, karen!  i unsubbed from the list cause i wasn't sure if i'd be able to get my e-mail from here, but i can check this account.

anyway, i found someone on my program who is as obsessed with tori amos as i am with the girls.  and on the airplane i was wearing my ig hat and this japanese woman saw me and was all excited that i liked the indigo girls.  i guess they have some sort of small following over here.

and on my flight, sarah mclachlan was a featured artist.  that means she had a whole channel of the in flight entertainment system devoted to her!  since the movies sucked, i listened to sarah for like 12 hours (until i rememberd that i did have my cd player, so then i listened to the girls)

anyway, i just wanted to say hi.  it feels good to be back on this list!

:-) karen

ps- jilly, i am sitting next to someone named nat from oberlin right now!  :-)

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date:         tue, 24 aug 1999 09:32:27 -0400
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when and where is the show in philly?
i tried looking at all different web sites but couldn't get any info on
it...
can someone please help?

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hey all --

       i didn't look into getting nashville tix until yesterday, because i
thought for sure my girlfriend would shoot down the idea, (we just spent some
major cash going to the newport folk fest, so we're supposed to be good for a
while), but she actually wants to go to the show...  i know there are
probably still tix for sale at the box office, but i'm not renting a car and
driving 4 hours each way just to see the girls from the back row...  so if
anybody out there needs to get rid of two nashville tix that are, say, in the
first 20 rows, get in touch w/me... i am intersted in buying.  and thanks,
sheryl, for the word about a knoxville show tba soon... at least i know i can
hit that one if nash. doesn't work out :)

~lisa

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date:         tue, 24 aug 1999 12:07:35 -0400
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hkf's,

just updated the 10/4 & 10/5 philly shows info. on my site that's onsale
saturday 8/28.  didn't write down exact onsale time yet b/c i haven't seen
the time anywhere, but i assume it will be 10am.  you can find the dates
listed on the following websites although it's not up on tm yet:

http://xpn.org/sections/concert_calendar.html

http://www.electricfactory.com/venues/towerpage.html

let me know if there are any errors,
thanks!
8-)
-mkc
...keep on rockin' in the free world!!!...
(neil y. must be proud)

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date:         tue, 24 aug 1999 13:05:01 edt
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i have an original cd copy of the ig ep with the following tracks:

1. shed your skin (tom morello remix)
2. get out the map (live)
3. sham on you (live)
4. everything in its own time (live)
5. blister in the sun (live with danielle howle & the tantrums)
6. shed your skin (live)

if anyone wants a cdr copy of this, i will make you one if you send me 1
blank cdr and a sase.  email me if you are interested - lbuck919@aol.com

luann

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date:         tue, 24 aug 1999 13:16:39 -0400
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hkf's,

this made me laugh so ya gotta see this.  check the link below or scroll
down here and look at the concert at the beacon theater... i'll be in charge
of the list meet plans - ya gotta start early!!!  maybe if i start crawling
from atlanta to nyc, i'll be there when the doors open...   ;-)

http://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=indigo+girls
thu, oct 11, 2012
8pm indigo girls rock, pop, folk, original, acoustic

(ps:  since i'm realllllly obsessed like all of us, i checked and the 11th
is a thursday in 2012... hehe!)

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date:         tue, 24 aug 1999 13:49:33 -0400
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yay!! indigos at the beacon! i don't care what year it is, i'll be there.
yesterday i tried to get this info on the net and couldn't find it, but i
thought for sure they'd be there soon since they were doing both philly and
mass that week...

any word on when the box office will start selling tix (august, 2012)?

now - how about new haven??? igs usually play new haven! i called the
palace theater box office the other day and they said nothing scheduled
yet. i'll try again.

-s.

-s.

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got this from the ng.  thought you might be interested.

kelly,
deciding if it's worth travelling down the hudson.  :)

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subject: nyc shows in october

this morning i heard an announcement on wfuv that the girls will be
playing at the beacon theater on broadway at 74th st in nyc on mon-tues
oct 11-12.  tickets go on sale next monday, aug 30.  i will be there
first thing monday morning!

cheers,
john


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date:         tue, 24 aug 1999 14:17:11 -0400
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hey y'all,

since i'm new to the list i don't know whether you've done this before, but
i'd love to see the list's fantasy set list for an ig show. might be a fun
way to get revved up for the tour!

if you've done this before, please send me a copy - i'm interested! and if
that is the case, disregard the following:

i'd be glad to compile a fantasy set list if everyone sends in the top 5 ig
songs they'd love to hear live, plus 1 cover. the cover could be either one
the igs have done before or one they haven't but you've always thought they
should!

let's assume we all want to hear as many from come on now social as
possible, so don't include those this time.

try to think up your top 5 before you read the others so we get a real
collection of our individual preferences. it will be really difficult to
pick just 5!!

if you have already compiled a fantasy set list, then ...   nevermind.

-sue

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date:         tue, 24 aug 1999 14:26:19 -0400
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on tue, 24 aug 1999, susan brill wrote:

> hey y'all,

> try to think up your top 5 before you read the others so we get a real
> collection of our individual preferences. it will be really difficult to
> pick just 5!!
>
> if you have already compiled a fantasy set list, then ...   nevermind.
>
> -sue

well,  right now it would be:

1.  pushing the needle too far
2.  hey jesus
3.  world falls
4.  burn all the letters (w/ ulali)
5.  tangled up in blue/all along the watchtower/down by the river (any
one)

<clink,clink>

kelly

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hkf's,

pollstar site is updated.  recent additions (not on my site) include
savannah, knoxville, & new york. (might have to refresh this link when you
get there)

http://www.pollstar.com/tour/an.cgi?artist=indigo+girls&date_from=&date_to=&
startsearch.x=26&startsearch.y=11

my site will post on-sale info as soon as i find it & confirm these 4 new
shows.  8-)
-mkc
a+e=ig
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i do have a hero. it is my wife. and, as martha stewart would say, that's a
good thing. this woman has traveled a path few have journeyed upon and is
whole and strong.

she pushes me to bring out my best, to do things i thought myself incapable
of doing. she loves me through all my ups and downs and knows just what i
need when times are rough. i never have to doubt her love or my place in her
world. she isn't just my hero for this though.

she's been an activist, involved in such organizations as queer patrol and
fdc (producers of the annual gay pride parade here in seattle). her vision
of where this world needs to go is astounding. she has incredible foresight
and can guide us through the dangers to reach a goal. she is seen as a hero
in her work group as well.

she is my hero for teaching me that disciplining kids isn't all about
punitive measures. because of her love and her commitment, there will be 3
more kids out there who will not stand for discrimination and will treat
others out of a place of kindness instead of one of fear and hate.

those are just a few reasons she is my hero.

my mom became my hero when she was diagnosed with ovarian cancer in 1990.
she didn't allow fear to overtake her. she became a very strong woman during
that time, not afraid to speak her mind. she became very businesslike
working with her doctors and they were amazed at her recovery. she has been
cancer-free for over 7 years now.

ryan blackhawke
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>   most of the class said they had a hero/mentor, then i raised my hand
> and asked if it was really good to have a certain person to idolize.

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hmmmm.......

    what a happy thought. let me see... probably a strange combination ;)

kid fears
southland in the springtime
hand me downs
touch me fall
wild horses

yay! ig! yay! ig! yay!

a lil silly girl,
katie ;)

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yay kelly.    while i dont fall for the "hey jesus" (it's genetic; i'm a jew
born during channukah), i'm so damn glad to hear someone else loves "burn
all the letters"; they never seem to do it anymore.

kelly's list also includes my alltime fave...."tangled up in blue".  great
no matter who sings it, but it is extremely nice to hear it by
singer/songwriters (ig) as opposed to songwriter/poet-----(sic) singers (ala
dylan).

great thread!

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>well,  right now it would be:
>
>1.  pushing the needle too far
>2.  hey jesus
>3.  world falls
>4.  burn all the letters (w/ ulali)
>5.  tangled up in blue/all along the watchtower/down by the river (any
>one)
>
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>
>kelly

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my would be:

the wood song
watershed
don't give that girl a gun
chickenman (with a cool soc)
blister in the sun


luann

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i accidental started recording over indigo girls hash viva la diva atlanta
pride atlanta georgia june 30, 1996 100 minutes. if someone has it let me
know and i can send you one tape from my list at
http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/stonewall/5548/ o will send the tape
out tomorrow as soon as i know what you want. i prefer maxwell xll tape. i
just need the tape not the j card or container. i can just send you the tape
and the list of songs to you. please pick a 100 minute tape. missy

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i did a quick search and both michelle malone and dar will also be in town
that weekend playing shows.

perhaps we can expect some duets.

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okay, how about these?

jonas and ezekial
romeo and juliet
love will come to you
nashville
chickenman (with a really great soc in there)


those are my picks...


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hkf's,

i've updated my site with the latest dates (see link below).  does anyone
have any on sale info for any of the recent additions: savannah, knoxville,
or new york or anything else...?

thanks...
have fun lilith-goers...
8-)
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i think there is a subtle yet significant difference between a hero and a
mentor.  i think of a hero as someone that rescues.  i think of a mentor as
a person that holds similar values and ideas that attract or mirror thoughts
that are inside of us yet are dusty or lost.  now a guru us something else
entirely.  i think some people are attracted to them as a mentor and
unintentionally idolize them as if the guru has nothing else to learn and
everything to teach.

ryan's hero, her mother, seems like she taught her about looking at real
fear, caring of herself, and saying i am not ready to go.  fierce and
beautiful.  thanks ryan.

in this society where communities are broken and trust diminishing, i think
we search for connection and leadership with some forward thinking, strong,
feeling, compassionate, whole person.

mentors are great.  i study philosophy and myth in my spare time.  very
interesting.  my mentor is a long time student of existential philosophy and
a philosopher/psychotherapist himself.  his thoughts are not all my thoughts
rather, he adds another dimension to my thought process.  i have learned so
much from so many places (books, personal experiences, others experiences,
this list, my work, my observations and perhaps memories i came here with,
etc) that i no longer get beside myself excited with every sentence i read
of anyone or  every thought i hear that is new.  i try and keep an evolved
and open mind and still don't buy into all of it.  the biggest gifts my
mentor ever gave me was this:  that the reason i am here is whispered
through my heart (kay, are you listening?)  and is the urge that doesn't go
away.  that there is no such thing as positive and negative..that all of my
psyche counts and minimizing my anger, sadness, anxiety will kill my
spirit..it all needs a voice and equal playing ground.  that shame is the
subtle termite eating away at society.

my name is parker and i am unlurking for this post.

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my $.02 about the set list.

1. strange fire
2. everybody's waiting (for someone to come home)
3. language or the kiss
4. blood quantam
5. it won't take long

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ok. this is a great little project sue (right?) got going..... after every
concert i discuss with andy, my ig-happy friend who has accompanied me to most
of the ig shows i've been to, which songs i would have loved to have
heard..... these top the list:

1.weakness in me
2.fugitive
3.fare thee well
4.hey kind friend
5.you left it up to me
as for other covers they've never done, to my knowledge, i think, and this was
andy's idea, that joni mitchell's 'you turn me on, im a radio' would be
spectacular.....  i could go on and on....
-karen

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>it will be really difficult to
>pick just 5!!

difficile?  mais, bien sur! non, non, non, ma petite croissant.  ce
n'est pas possible.

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the eagle has landed...... for those of you who may have been struggling to
keep track of my whereabouts, and i know you all were, =0)
i am back in dc now where i will remain until an undetermined length of time.
i was in harrisonburg, va for a few days visiting one of my sisters, and
therefore was unable to check all these heaps of messages.... i had hoped to
use her computer, but the monitor decided not to work. oh, the little bastard
was on, all right, but nothing showed up on the screen. i was roaming around a
mall yesterday in the shenendoah valley area while my sister was at work, and
i zeroed right in on a random computer set up at a internet advertising booth
with a huge sign which to my delight stated:
'use the internet for free' so i did..... but not for long b/c there was a
line and i got all flustered and decided to just wait until i got back. i
should have internet service in my apt by monday and then things can finally
get back to normal.....(i'm at the campus library now, surrounded by people
who actually seem to be doing some kind of work on their computers!)
so, to all you fun loving ig fans who requested newport pics, listen up.....
due to my ever-present laziness, plus the fact that i was visiting my sister,
i did not get to copy the pics. yet. but tomorrow i am spending the day at
kinko's so they'll be ready soon.... sorry for the delay. please send me your
addresses so i can start getting packages ready. feel free to list any
specific pic. requests you may have, and i'll see what i can do.... and due to
the large # of requests, would i be a big fat jerk if i asked, oh, let's say a
$3 fee from everyone to cover copying and shipping? i really do enjoy simply
giving people things, just for the sheer joy of it, and i would, but there's
just too many wonderful ig fans to accomodate for free. sorry. i guess that's
all for now. i hope you all had great weekends, etc.(yes i know it's tuesday.
but i have lost all concept of time/dates....)  take care, ya'll and god
bless.......
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hmmm...my setlist:

1. the wood song (loooove those lyrics--go emily)
2. everybody's waiting for someone to come home (whoever said that first, i
totally agree!)
3. hammer and a nail (it makes me want to dance a jig and erect a barn at
the same time)
4. reunion (one of my alltime favorites live--love the "la-la" section)
5. get out the map (especially now as the summer's coming to a gradual
end...ahh...)

shannon


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shannon mast <shannonmast@hotmail.com> wrote:
hmmm...my setlist:


3. hammer and a nail (it makes me want to dance a jig and erect a barn at
the same time)

that made me laugh outloud. thank you. it's oh so true!
-karen

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5. blood and fire (a)
4. winthrop (e)
3. problem child (a)
2. ghost (e)
1. touch me fall (a)

of the above list, i've only heard "winthrop" in concert.  it was in
denver.

it's hard to pick just 5!

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hey y'all,

just wanted to give everyone a quick update, seeing as we're winding down
pretty soon here.  if you do want to donate, but are in the middle of a
personal fundraiser, or aren't able to get to the mail by tomorrow, give me a
shout and let me know your name, contact information, and how much you're
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planning to give.  i'll update the winners list as soon as i recieve all the
checks.

as of today, the standing is as follows:

grand prize (two golden circle tickets, signed press photo, signed tour
poster, tour t-shirt, advanced itinerary, signed copy of "come on now
social", personal thank you note from both amy & emily) - ryan blackhawk $650

first prize #1  (two golden circle tickets, advanced tour itinerary, signed
tour poster, signed press photo) - java solis $270
first prize #2  ("") - jason e lee $260
first prize #3 ("") - danielle fredrick $125 (thanks for the card danielle!
it's beautiful)

second prize #1 (autographed tour poster, advanced tour itinerary) - lisa
tatonetti $110
second prize #2 ("") mary lou iantosca - $100
second prize #3  suzanne hammontree - $100
second prize #4  becky bodonyi - $50
second prize #5  manivone sivilay - $50
second prize #6  dawn jacobs & shawna stewart - $40
second prize #7  martine gubernat - $25
second prize #8  debbie alexander - $25
second prize #9  chrystal calhoun - $25
second prize #10 is tied between janice monforton & samantha mackenzie ($20),
and sara kitchen ($20)

thanks again to eveyone who has donated.  i'll be posting again in the next
couple of days with a semi-final update.  please make checks and money orders
out to honor the earth/the tides center, and not "honor the earth
fundraiser"... it simplifies matters for us when it comes to depositing
contributions.:)
donations may be sent to:

honor the earth fundraiser
c/o greta gohn & kristen mcelveen
621 house wren circle
palm harbor, fl 34683

take care everyone.  as always, feel free to email me with any questions.
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hmmm... tough one.

1. the wood song (i still get chills every time i listen to this)
2. burn all the letters
3. galileo (purely sentimental reasons)
4. tangled up in blue
5. romeo & juliet (just amy on the stage, in her black tank top... *sigh*)

that's just too hard! :) amy

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ummm..this is hard.  ok, here it goes (in the order i want the songs played)

1. tangeled up in blue (a great way to open a show)
2. blood and fire (like that would *ever* happen!)
3. the wood song
4. watershed
5. power of two (well, dah! that would be my encore)

ok, that's it!

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1. rites of passage
2. swamp ophilia
3. 4.5
4. the legendary unreleased indigo girls covers album
5. 12,000 curfews.

that oughta wear 'em out and get me my money's worth damnit :o)

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mmm, it's so hard to pick just 5, (love neil's choices btw) my choice for the
day would be:

ghost
language or the kiss
fugitive
chickenman
all along the watchtower

peace
dorothy

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oh, lord, lord, lord.

let's see:

1.  the wood song
2.  you and me of the 10,000 wars
3.  least complicated
4.  love's recovery
5.  get out the map

(and, about a million more....)

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greetings and salutations y'all,

my dream setlist would have to run like this-
1. cut it out/dead man's hill (i know it's 2 but 5 just isn't enough)
2. blood and fire
3. hammer and a nail (to pep things up a bit from the last 2/3 heart
   wrenchers)
4. chickenman  (of course!)
5. tangled up in blue

i was wondering if anyone had the lyrics to "peace tonight" because it
seems to be getting the most airplay but i haven't heard anything about
it.
would some kind friend post the lyrics to me, please?

also, does anyone know who wrote "wild horses"?  i'd always assumed it was
michelle malone but i heard another version on buffy the other night so
was wondering...

thanks everyone,
maddie

btw i'm seeing shawn mullins on friday, yay!

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hey...

>also, does anyone know who wrote "wild horses"?  i'd always assumed it was
>michelle malone but i heard another version on buffy the other night so
>was wondering...

that would be mick and keith out of the rolling stones :o)

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hi again!

i posted the question a month or so ago about references to ig in short
stories and/or novels. i'm putting together a website to list these in
bibliographic form and i'd like to include the specific passage as well -
sort of like the norton anthology of indigo girls literature. *giggle*

this is what i have so far:
erdrich, louise. the antelope's wife.
king, stephen. rose madder.
lamb, wally. i know this much is true.
mitchard, jacqueline. the most wanted.

if anyone owns any of these books and would like to help out (for a nice
little mention on the page as well as eternal gratitude on my part),
please please please email me the full bibliographic info (date published,
page of the reference, place published, publishing company, etc.) and an
excerpt that includes the ig reference.

or, if you know of any other references, send 'em my way! this can be in
short stories published in magazines, in books, in novels, whatever.
except it has to be fiction. the references also can be a little obscure.
for example, a story in glimmer train stories from last spring involved
the narrator complaining about his girlfriend's tape that had a "whiny
female duo" singing a cover of uncle john's band. we weren't suppossed to
like the narrator (in case you're wondering). he was a bit of an idiot.

so please email me if you can help out in any way! i don't know why i'm
doing this, except that i'm bored. :)

the site is at http://www.geocities.com/wellesley/garden/5125. follow the
indigo girls link. my boot list (very short and as of yet incomplete) is
there also.

love,
amy

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hi y'all!
i'm leslie, from california, and probably 95% of you don't know who the heck i am, but i know a few of you out there from when i was on this list about a year ago (my old email address was holeman@biology.ucsc.edu), so i just thought i'd say hello and that i'm glad to be back!
now i must gush a little about my lovely experience in toronto.  i just got back yesterday, and it was great to see the girls for the first time since last year's lilith.  i had forgotten how exhilarating it is to see their live performance.  i was taking a little break from ig for a while, but now they've got me hooked again, and i'm counting the days until sep. 28th.  it was awesome to see them perform some of their new stuff--"go" was a rockin' performance, "gone again" lived up to my high expectations, and i had never heard "peace tonight", so that was a treat.
another little treat from that day was discovering that i was standing right behind amy while watching zoe bliss on the village stage.  i was very impressed that nobody was bugging her (and i certainly wasn't going to), and most people didn't even notice her.
so, as awesome as lilith was, there's something i've been pondering since last year:  we all know how cool it is when the girls generously bring other artists out to contribute to their set, and how the ctf hootenanny has become a lilith event, but what i'm wondering is, why don't the other artists bring them out to jam during their sets?  in toronto, i did see sheryl crow and sarah mclachlan bring out other artists (which i don't remember seeing at all in san francisco last year), but amy and emily didn't ever take part in other artists' sets.  maybe i'm being nitpicky here, but damn, it would be a cool thing to see, and if anyone's seen it at other liliths, i'd love to hear about it!
so, thanks for reading my first post in a looooong time!
leslie :)

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top 5.....as hard as that is

wood song
leeds
walk away
virgina woolf
prince of darkness

:)
tina

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hi,

i'm just reposting this lowell, massachusetts info for those who missed.
catherine - for some reason my reply to you wouldn't go through - but this
should do the trick!

>here is the info on the mass. date:
>indigo girls - 10/6 - lowell, ma
>tix's go on sale 8/28 at 10:00am
>local tm#: (617) 931-2000
>
>can also purchase tickets at the box office:
>tsongas arena
>300 arcand dr
>lowell, ma 01852
>near city hall
>(978) 848-6900
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michael has a nice site that will help keep us updated -
http://home.earthlink.net/~mcunningham5/indigotour.html

catherine - enjoyed your mail - sorry my reply wouldn't work. the return
notice had some info about the routing of your address that was a bit
complicated. i don't think i'll be able to get through though.

-susan

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first of all: ditto to neil's list

after much internal conflict, here is my fantasy list:

blood & fire
kid fears
you left it up to me
the wood song
get out the map

boy was this tuff!!  and a great idea!

kim

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hkf's -

i was just wondering if anyone knows if the girls are
going to play in the va area.  in this area i am
including richmond and dc.  i am stranded at college
in fredricksburg and i will not be able to make it to
the beacon show (which happens to be 45 easy minutes
away from my house.  grrrr.)  i have been dying to see
the girls.  so if anyone has *any* info, please help
me out.  thanks so much!

-di
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hello everyone!
i have heard from two different friends that a raleigh radio station
announced an ig show at the alltel pavilion in raleigh for september 26th.
apparently no lawn seats will be sold.  i've checked ticketmaster and
pollstar, but it hasn't been listed.  does anyone know anything about this?
thanks,
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another newbie comin' out of hiding...

i hope i read the post right: 5 ig songs, plus 1 cover?

1. the wood song
2. hey kind friend
3. shame on you
4. blood and fire
5. crazy game

plus... something from jcs (other than i don't know how to love him;
that song bugs me).

(waiting miserably for the new album to arrive)
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>
> >also, does anyone know who wrote "wild horses"?  i'd always assumed it was
> >michelle malone but i heard another version on buffy the other night so
> >was wondering...
> neil wrote:
> that would be mick and keith out of the rolling stones :o)
> ---------------------
geeeez - now does this make me a relic because i know this?  boy, do i
suddenly feel old.  amd bow your head when you make reference to mick
and keith (only kidding)

elaine

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>> neil wrote:
>> that would be mick and keith out of the rolling stones :o)
>> ---------------------
>geeeez - now does this make me a relic because i know this?  boy, do i
>suddenly feel old.

hey, it's way before _my_ time :o)

but for superspecial bonus points. who _originally_ recorded wild horses
(and obviously it's not the stones)??

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ok, here's my choices...

1. shame on you (my god-son loves this song)
2. pushing the needle to far (i am forever losing my
    voice from singing this song)
3. hey kind friend
4. ghost (this song always makes me cry)
5. the wood song (to remind me to work through the
    rough spots of life)

cover -  'til tuesday's - coming up close


thanks for listening.

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neil wrote:

> but for superspecial bonus points. who _originally_ recorded wild horses
> (and obviously it's not the stones)??--------------------------------------

i'm going to take a guess - was it marianne "why d'ya do it" faithful?

elaine

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just checked out the alltel web site (http://www.alltelpavilion.com/) and
it's official!
the lovely ladies will be there (yea!)
tix go on sale this saturday at 10am
so now i get to see them there too.  so far going to nashville (4th row),
greenville (2nd row), and now raleigh!!! at this rate i think i should
become a ig chaser.
nancy

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ok, so i have a hard time choosing 5 coz i like all their songs.  but here's
my feeble attempt:

1.  walk away
2.  the wood song
3.  gone again
4.  crazy game
5.  keeper of my heart

and the cover:  amy singing "and so it goes" by billy joel


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that would be the flying burrito brothers with gram parsons on lead
vocal.....

lapsing into ellipses......

tim

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>>> neil wrote:
>
>hey, it's way before _my_ time :o)
>
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>(and obviously it's not the stones)??
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1)  the boys just laugh
2)  the language or the kiss
3)  everything in it's own time
4)  you left it up to me
5)  love will come to you

cover:  amy doing sweet melissa

peace,
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        wow... seems like everybody's picking the wood song, which is
funny, because it was the last song i cut when i was trying to narrow down
to five.
        and while i'm here -
        i know a lot of people posts recommendations from time to time,
but i never have, just because i know i don't run out and buy as many of
those recommended cds as i'd like to, andi'm usually a few steps behind
the rest of the folks on the list. but i'm unsubbing in a few days to
spend a semester in moscow, and i did want to throw out just one name for
y'all - beth amsel. i'm actually surprised nobody's mentioned her onlist
before, because she's one of the voices on the verge, and is (in my
opinion, of course) even better than rose polenzani and erin mckeown,
which is saying an awful lot. her cd is probably the best thing i've
bought since i picked up michelle malone's beneath the devil moon on a
whim about a year ago.
        and the other thing is, beth is independent. her album sounds so
polished that i didn't even realize she was unsigned until i noticed that
the front cover insert was photocopied rather than printed. guys, she's
*amazing*. there's a webpage for her with a song sample:
        http://www.angelfire.com/ma/bethamsel/
and you can order her cd at bethamsel@aol.com. okay, enough plugging from
me. thanks, folks, for a wonderful... um... cripes, it's been almost a
year. have an awesome time with all the fall concerts (*sniffle*) and the
new album, and i'll see you in a few months.
        do skorovo (until soon)-
        mandy

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        if you try to touch the sun
        undermine the underground
        you're too old to care, you're too young to count
                                -amy ray, "go"

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let me just jump on the bandwagon here:

1.airplane (i know a lot of you don't like this song, but i do! :p)
2.love will come to you
3.let it be me
4.language or the kiss
5.blood and fire/strange fire

whew! that was close! i almost picked all emily songs:)
oh yeah...and my cover pick:

6.tangled up in blue

pax, celeste:)

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date:         tue, 24 aug 1999 23:29:21 -0700
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only 5? hmmmmmm.....

blood and fire
all along the watchtower
scooter boys
bury my heart at wounded knee
chickenman

hmmmm....all amy songs huh? well, i like emily too of course but amy has
always just done something to my spirit so i guess i connect more with her.

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some similarities, some differences on mine :)

1.  crazy game
2.  mystery- is there anyone out there who loves this line: "i could go crazy
on a night like tonight - when summer's beginning to give up her fight . .
and every thought's a possibility. .. ) as much as i do?
3.  touch me fall
4.  the wood song
5.  southland in the springtime

cover:  "down by the river"

i'm having fun reading everyone's lists - keep them coming!  :)
kathy

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excuse me if this has already been covered.  in the car today i heard
something about the ig and other mostly female artist all doing a track on
this album to benefit breast cancer research.  the album is associated with
some tv show/movie.  anyone know about this?
chance

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not necessarily my 5 favorites, but 5 i'd love to hear live:

blood and fire -- (it's the song that made me a convert, but by that time she'd
stopped doing it live)
mystery -- (my favorite song . . . by anybody . . . period)
love will come to you -- (vastly underrated, even by ig themselves, i think)
fugitive -- (like "blood and fire", i fear, we won't get to hear this anymore
because of the personal sentiment)
holiday inn -- (the elton john song; they used to do it ages ago but i never
heard it, not even on a boot)

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tough to pick just 5...

but, here goes:

1. the wood song (probably my fav ig song... "...and we'll make it fine if the
weather holds, but if the weather holds, we'll have missed the point...")

2. love will come to you (hope that this is true keeps me going)

3. pushing the needle too far

4. caramia

5. get out the map

and the cover: tangled up in blue

i mostly tend to find myself more drawn to emily's songs... but i wouldn't
want to go to a concert with only the softer stuff...

shannon

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>and the cover: tangled up in blue

actually... i was just looking at lyrics on the lifeblood site, and saw that
they've done a cover of dancing shoes... i grew up to dan fogelberg, and i
love that song... as much as i like their version of tangled up in blue, i
thinki'd rather hear them do dancing shoes...

a far too indicisive
shannon

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hi,

hand-me-downs
love will come to you
secure yourself
let it be me
blood quantum
cover - summertime - heard this in concert here in dublin in 1993 - it was
amazing!


i tend to favour emily's songs more, but i like a balanced set list in
concert.  this prob'ly explains why i've 2 of emily's,
2 of amy's and 1 collaboration!

fare thee well my bright stars!

marion.

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>2.  mystery- is there anyone out there who loves this line: "i could go
crazy
>on a night like tonight - when summer's beginning to give up her fight . .
>and every thought's a possibility. .. ) as much as i do?


something about these lines always gives me goosebumps!  i am right there
with ya!

so, out of lurk-dom i come to post my 5/6:

1.  the wood song
2.  watershed
3.  boys just laugh
4.  crazy game
5.  love's recovery

cover: wild horses.

is it that obvious that i'm an emily fan???

--theresa

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hkf's,

well, not really an update, cause you already know.  but here's the info:

indigo girls
raleigh, nc
alltel pavilion
9/26/99

on sale:
8/28 - 10:00am
(919)834-4000 (local tm)
($32.50/25.00/20.00 reserved prices)

it also says "intimate pavilion seating only! all seats just 200 feet from
the stage!"  [well, 200 feet certainly is not good enough! how's 2 feet?]

i've updated my site, but still need help with more onsale information.
please post to the list when you find anything out.

thanks,
-mkc
a+e=ig
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in a message dated 8/24/99 8:28:57 pm eastern daylight time,
susan.brill@yale.edu writes:

<< >here is the info on the mass. date:
>indigo girls - 10/6 - lowell, ma
>tix's go on sale 8/28 at 10:00am
>local tm#: (617) 931-2000 >>

you may want to check w/your local tixmaster outlets before saturday.  i did
yesterday and was informed that there's also going to be some hockey tix
going on sale at the same time (competition) and that the ig show may be a
"big sale show" and they may request people to line up early and wear
wristbands.  this is what a tixmaster agent told me and said it would be
advisable to check on it a day or two beforehand.  good luck!
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hi all,

i just got michelle malone's new cd and wanted to let those of you who
are fans know that it's awesome!  much more acoustic and laid back than
beneath the devil moon, which is one of my favorite all-time cds.  and
our beloved miss emily sings backup on two tracks.  i'm not sure where
amy was, since they're buds and amy was on the last one with emily.  but

just the same, i urge you all to check it out and support michelle,
especially now that she's gone independent. here's the link to order
online:
http://www.michellemalone.com/home.html

please support independent musicians!

peace,
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hkf's,

(hope y'all don't mind the activity - i'm trying to beat sherlyn's record of
24 posts in one day! - j/k)

i updated my site with info for knoxville (on sale 8/28 - 9:00am) and new
york (on sale 8/30 - 9:00am).  also called tm and they have no exact time
for the two philly shows - they said just to check back often since the on
sale date is supposed to be the 8/28.  still no info on savannah yet, and
apparently johnny mercer theater doesn't exist (tried information - not very
successful).

that's it - let me/us know of any new updates...
8-)
-mkc

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ron mcbay wrote:
> holiday inn -- (the elton john song; they used to do it ages ago but i never
> heard it, not even on a boot)

oooh, i never miss an opportunity to plug early elton music -i tend to
really like his early music best.  you should try to pick up his "madman
across the water" album. it's probably still in print but i bet you
could find it for cheap at a used cd store.  i believe this is the cd
with his version of holiday inn.  the song "madman across the water" is
beautiful and hauntingly disturbing.  i forget - is the song "levon" on
that album?  doesn't ig do a cover of "levon" as well?  also, while i'm
flashing back, you can find "mona lisa and madhatters" on. . . .  is it
"tumbleweed connection"?  not too sure about this one - who can confirm
or deny?  mike c?  see if you can indeed post more in one day than
sherlyn. thanks.

elaine

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ok, after much debate......(with myself), this is my list:

1.  pushing the needle
2.  touch me fall
3.  you left it up to me
4.  strange fire
5.  chickenman

cover:  ok ok ok, i couldn't break the tie
mona lisa's and mad hatters
wild horses


subject to change without notice, at any given time, probably by now
already!!!!!

snaps

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hi guys!

i would love to see an ig show with all of you - great songs! i had no idea
the wood song was such a fav - i love it too! why don't they play it more?

keep your votes coming! i'll post the list so far down below. don't look
until you've voted.

neil! i sooo agree with you but i'm _not_ typing in all those songs!!
(though i'd type them 1000 times each if it would make your set list come
true...)

mandy, before you leave for russia - repost your votes! we'd love to see
them but i don't think they ended up in your post.

here's the list of all songs that received three or more votes. i'll post
the top 15 as the final set (plus the rest of the songs receiving votes)
when everybody has voted. i have listed the name of the song followed by
the number of votes it received.

****set list as of  11:00 am wednesday****

the wood song (13)
blood and fire (8)
chickenman (6)
love will come to you (6)
language or the kiss (4)
get out the map (4)
crazy game (4)
ghost (3)
you left it up to me (3)
touch me fall (3)
pushing the needle too far (3)
hey kind friend (3)
burn all the letters (3)
fugitive (3)
watershed (3)

cover:
tangled up in blue (7)

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delurking to add my five cents:  (egads! i was *really* tempted to tack on
some of them there ellipses here, but i'll refrain from doing so)

if i were going to a concert tonight, i'd like to hear

land of canaan
language or the kiss
strange fire
hand me downs

romeo & juliet (ties with "come on get happy" - partridge family)


oh! and before i forget, mediancat, (bbertiaux@earthlink.net) who is on
list hiatus, contributes the following:

land of canaan
crazy game
least complicated
love will come to you

tangled up in blue


okay, i'm going to crawl back under my rock now.
-bon

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only 5 songs to choose...that's a toughie.
here goes:

1. land of canaan
2. romeo and juliet
3. power of two
4. shame on you
5. galielo

and just for fun, i would love them to do a cover of the "you don't own
me" song from the first wives club movie.

annie

                "nothing soothes the soul like a cold beer
                        and a remote control"
                                -emily saliers

                "not content to bow and bend to the whims
                        of culture that swoop like
                 vultures, eating us away, eating us away,
                    eating us away to our extinction"
                               - emily saliers

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emily wrote a song called "peace song" in 1985...here are the lyrics.

<<<"peace song" is an emily saliers composition, probably written in
1985, as it appears on "blue food."    if you're intersted in a more
definite "terminus post quem," it makes reference to the tv movie
"the day after."  so, all you gotta do is find out when that was, and
you've got a nice tpq.  anybody who knows, let me in on it...

        peace song.

now, everybody's looking for a little peace of mind
we're a generation running out of time
there's a bomb, there's a man, there's a gun in his hand, yeah

well, nobody smiles at strangers, we're scared from birth
afraid the man's gonna take us for all that we're worth
strip us of our pride - make a strike from inside

(come on and tell me)
how long will we be victims of fear
with a man and a gun and the "day after" fear
jesus, smile down upon your children
smile down upon your family

now, even lovers have trouble at hand
what's your preference - where do you stand?
you get uptight about it, gonna fight about it
gonna fight about love - that makes no sense to me

wanting independence, separate but equal
some are here, and others there
one more for the sequel to the heartache
how much more can we take?

(won't you tell me)
how long will we be victims of fear
with a man and a gun and the "day after" fear
jesus, smile down upon your children
smile down upon your family...>>

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    i noticed no one has had ctf on their set list...hmmm...

i sent my set list to susan and not to the whole list last night so here's
what i choose:
            * watershed
            ** joking
            *** romeo & juilet
            **** make it easier
            *****chickenman
    for a cover song i'm torn between tangled up in blue & blister in the sun
            jennifer

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well folks, i'm off on my mini-vacation but i'll be back monday. we're going
to kayak up and down lake chelan (60 miles!?!?!) and we leave tonite.

we finally have everything to be able to get that atlanta boot underway.
unfortunately, between vacation and bumbershoot, it'll be after sept 7
before we can get to it but it is #1 on the list of things to do.

ryan blackhawke
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well, since indigo girls are touring so much around here, asheville nc, but
not quite here!, i thought i'd post that ani will be here on friday, october
8th.  tickets go on sale this saturday, 1.828.251.5505--- maybe amy and emily
will take a hint.....  well i thought i'd post since i know many of you are
ani fans too, and it's around the same time ig will be in the "vicinity".
good day all.......

a' demain,
trooper

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hi all,

well lilith came and went for the last time :(
i had the luck of being backstage to experience the
entire production.  it was interesting to see them
putting together the stage, see all the busses arrive,
and see how lilith becomes lilith and not just an
empty ampitheater.  lets see what can i say about it.
sarah mclachlan brought her dog "rex" who is a pretty
black lab and sheryl crow brought her dog who looked
like a german shepard or something, his/her name is
"scout". i saw them running around all day and when
sarah and sheryl did their soundcheck the dogs laid on
stage with them.
since i was back there i asked to see the dressing
rooms of everyone (this was obviously before they got
there) and i got to!!  sarah and sheryls names were
changed on the dressing room signs to "scout" and
"rex". hmm...odd but i think they were trying to be
funny. indigo girls, debroah cox and dixie chicks were
all appropriately labeled.  of course the only room i
really wanted to go in was ig but the guy who took me
around showed me all of them.  i dont really have
anything to interesting to say about deborah cox room
but dixie chicks room made me crack up. they had sooo
much liquor in it, i am talking somewhere around 4 12
packs of beer, and like 4 gallons of different liquor.
indigo girls room was very plain, i guess they dont
ask for a lot. they had one cooler with budweiser and
some non alcholic beer called buckhead. they had some
candy but no food otherwise.  i guess they didnt need
it you should have seen the catering spread!!  other
than that nothing in there. sheryl crow had lots of
liquor also. but all her trunks were in her room so
that was cool to see. sarahs room was huge in
comparison to the others and also the only dressing
room right next to the stage. she had silk scarves
being drapped all over the furniture. she also had a
huge wardrobe. i didnt notice her change all night
into anything different but maybe i am wrong.
anyhow....i met amy and emily if any of you are
wondering. i was walking down the hall and amy passed
me. i looked at my friend and then i turned around and
she was gone.  about an hour later her and emily were
sitting at a picnic table drinking coffee so i waited
until they were about to leave and walked over. they
sat back down and talked with me for about 5 minutes
(it seemed like an eternity though :).  i asked about
the new album and they told me they were excited about
it. i told them i was also. i asked if they were
coming to milwaukee on tour, they said yes and smiled.
they said they have friends here and i asked mrs fun
and they said yes, had i heard them before and i said
yes, i really like their sound.  i told them about the
list, assuming they didnt know about it, but to my
suprise they did! i told them the new album has been a
hot discussion lately and they said "cool". amy asked
me what i did for a living and i told her. she said
she didnt know much about computers.  they signed
autographs for me and my gf and friends (about 6 in
all) and were nice about it. there was a "no photo"
rule backstage bc they were shooting a documetary
about lilith and those photographers were the only
ones allowed to shoot.  but the girls were really nice
and plesant, emily was pretty quiet but i think she
probably is alot of the time.  amy was chatty. and amy
looked really good....i like the highlights in her
hair. i also met sarah and the dixie chicks. sarah..i
dont know...she seems so fake to me (in my opinion).
she was signing a bunch of peoples stuff so i just
went over and she seemed to look through everyone.
whatever, she looked really pretty and was nice
enough. the dixie chicks were a hoot. they signed my
stuff..i told them i was going to buy a shirt when the
show started but they went and gave me one!! i was
embarrased bc i didnt know their names but i played it
off. the little one with the short hair was sooo fine.
the other two were cute too.  i didnt meet sheryl but
my friend did and said it wasnt a plesant time.
  that was the most of my time backstage.  i didnt get
pictures of anyone. but i did get pics of the stage
being put up...and the dressing rooms so i will post
them on my website soon and let you know.  i also got
to keep my backstage pass.
  as far as the show went i bopped around seats alot.
my gf and friends were in the grass seats. i also had
some friends in the front so i went down there a lot.
i was down in front for the dixie chicks and ig. let
me just say the dixie chicks rock. imho, i think they
stole the show and as someone said earlier they are a
hard act to follow.  ig was awesome as usual. i don't
know if i really care for the new stuff to much. i
don't like faye tucker at all but i like go. the other
new song (something about peace) was ok but the words
were hard to understand.  i dont know my opinion might
change when i hear the cd, memorize the words and can
sing along. i saw a sots tour before the cd came out
(it was like a get out the map practice tour is what i
was told) and they played the new stuff from beg to
end. i didnt like sots then either.  back to present,
the girls seemed full of energy, talkative between
songs and generally happy.  they made reference to
going bowling at the landmark the night before which
is no more than 6 blocks from my house. damn.  other
than that the night passed with sheryl crow who i
personally dont care for (except sweet child of mine),
my gf likes her and said she was good but i didnt like
her. sarah was sarah...same ol; stuff from the last
two years. nothing changed.  thats it...the show
rocked and it was an experience to end all
experiences. the last lilith went out with a bang for
me!!!

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hkf's,
here's the info for the savannah show.  thanks to susan "the red snapper"
for helping out with info...  8-)
09/28/99 savannah, ga johnny mercer theater
on sale: 8/28 - 10:00am
(912)651-6556 (local #)

-saturday is a busy day!!!

mcunningham5@earthlink.net
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hey guys, i am stuck w/ 2 lawn tickets for the lilith fair this saturday.
my friend who was going to buy them decided not to.  i am located in
lubbock, so let me know if you are interested and i will sell/give them to
you. (next time i'm not buying tickets this far in advance-or i am
planning my own transportation)  let me know quick because there's only
thursday and saturday.
amber

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subject:      no ctf -was re: (no subject)
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on wed, 25 aug 1999, jennifer belton wrote:

>     i noticed no one has had ctf on their set list...hmmm...

maybe it's generally assumed that it would be the closer? hmmm (no
ellipses).

-bon

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>if you're intersted in a more
>definite "terminus post quem," it makes reference to the tv movie
>"the day after."  so, all you gotta do is find out when that was, and
>you've got a nice tpq.  anybody who knows, let me in on it...
>

you know - i think (not absolutely sure) this was the tv movie that really
freaked me out one year when i was in college. i thought this movie came
out in '86 but i guess i'm wrong. it was a movie about nuclear
annihilation. it featured characters at a nice university town in kansas
and ended up showing everyone as charred bones. the movie made me feel like
the whole thing was so inevitable - we humans will surely destroy ourselves
with these tools in existence. i have a vivid memory of walking across
campus on a beautiful sunny morning the day after i saw this movie and
feeling real sadness - real loss.... well, i guess we're still around for
now so it turned out better than i thought, though we have new global
threats to add to the list now!

cheers!
sue

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date:         wed, 25 aug 1999 10:48:46 pdt
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subject:      top 5 pic

1. cut it out/wish you were here
2. reunion
3. left me a fool
4. i don't know your name
5. leeds

cover: jt's "daddy's all gone"

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back from a five-month list hiatus (after 4+ years of list membership)...

in no particular order:

1.  world falls
2.  faye tucker
3.  fugitive
4.  watershed
5.  love's recovery
cover:  thin line/sweet melissa (that's one song, right?! ;) what's
better than amy moaning your name!?  okay, maybe that's getting a little,
uh...inappropriate...) [sorry jill, i deleted the rules... i am an
ellipse freak, and the (incorrect) rule i follow is "always use three"...
as you can see... :)]

of course it's *impossible* to pick my top 5 (+cover),
and, boy, wasn't i generous in giving emily two spots...

peace, melissa
(endlessly rabid amy fan &
thrilled soon-to-be mama!!!
my partner's due sept. 16!)
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sorry, i'm young and dumb ;)  what album (if there is one) is sweet melissa
on? who wrote it? thanks for making me knowledgable :)

have a great day! :)

love,
katie

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>sorry, i'm young and dumb ;)  what album (if there is one) is sweet melissa
>on? who wrote it? thanks for making me knowledgable :)
>

the allman brothers wrote melissa and you can hear it on their album, "eat
a peach". it is such a great song!! the allman bros really are a great band
- definitely get to know them.

i don't have any ig boots so i've never heard them do melissa, but i am
dying to hear it!! which boot should i try to hear a good ig version?  -sue

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> indigo girls room was very plain, i guess they dont
> ask for a lot.

        hmm, that's not what i heard....
        thanks for the story, claudia! oh, and i posted mine once before,
in a different post (gosh, i've gotten talkative) but here they are:

        pushing the needle
        language or the kiss
        prince of darkness
        strange fire
        the wood song
        cover: american tune

        okay, i lied. i guess i did include the wood song. what can i say;
i am an ass. =) thanks, guys, for making the list so much fun of late.
i've mostly lurked for almost a year, but now i'm looking around and
wishing i didn't have to unsub because all the conversations are getting
really good. take care, y'all.

        mandy
        elliptically precise as always

        did they tell you you would come undone
        if you try to touch the sun
        undermine the underground
        you're too old to care, you're too young to count
                                -amy ray, "go"

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this song is on "shades of indigo" - which has shawn colvin interviewing ig
around the time of nis.  one of these days, i'm gonna offer that bootleg - i
once dated a radio promo guy - great people to know to get your hands on
"for promotion only" discs.  anyways - he *gave* it to me.  what a nice boy.

hey... you know what?  what the hell... i'm insane, and so i'll do this, if
people are patient.  i'll get to everyone eventually... right?  um - send me
a cdr and a sase, and a note with "shades of indigo" on it, and i'll make
you a copy.  digital no less.  epic gave these away free to radio, back in
the day.  you'll have to print out, sign, and mail me the following, along
with your request.  it's a new policy i'm implementing on digital stuff,
because i'm sick to death of people making money on stuff i'd give you
free...

i hereby promise not to copy, duplicate, distribute, or sell digital copies
nor will i make any digital bootleg offers of the indigo girls epic promo
cd, "shades of indigo".  i will refer all inquiries for digital copies to
the person who supplied my disc, in this case, to tara lane at
tara8595@yahoo.com.  i solemnly swear i will never attempt to profit from
owning this cd.

signed__________________________________________

print name_______________________________________

email___________________________________________

date_________________________________

send this signed and dated statement, a cdr (not a cdrw) and a sase to me
at:

tara lane
po box 11305
richmond, va  23230

requests without this signed statement will be returned to sender.  sorry to
be a hardass, but anyone loyal to ig should understand.

later gators,

tara

"if you profit from bootlegging, you're going to hell." - me

> -----original message-----
> from: susan brill [smtp:susan.brill@yale.edu]
> sent: wednesday, august 25, 1999 2:52 pm
> to:   indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject:      re: sweet melissa
>
> >sorry, i'm young and dumb ;)  what album (if there is one) is sweet
> melissa
> >on? who wrote it? thanks for making me knowledgable :)
> >
>
> the allman brothers wrote melissa and you can hear it on their album, "eat
> a peach". it is such a great song!! the allman bros really are a great
> band
> - definitely get to know them.
>
> i don't have any ig boots so i've never heard them do melissa, but i am
> dying to hear it!! which boot should i try to hear a good ig version?
> -sue
>
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shades of indigo has a great amy performance of sweet melissa.....

tim

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>i don't have any ig boots so i've never heard them do melissa, but i am
>dying to hear it!! which boot should i try to hear a good ig version?  -sue

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<h4>december ?, 1990 -- shades of indigo=20
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<p>esk 2201 (cd), eas 2201 (vinyl)
<br>
epic records</p>

<p>promo 12" 33 1/3 lp<br>
promo cd</p>

<p>reportedly only 1000 copies of the vinyl release were made.  comes =
with green (lp), orange (cd), or purple (cd, lp) cover.</p>

<p>front cover:
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<p><center><img src=3d"/images/releases/shades1.jpg" =
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<p>cd inside front cover:</p>
<p><center><img src=3d"/images/releases/shades2.jpg" =
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<p>back cover:</p>
<p><center><img src=3d"/images/releases/shades4.jpg" =
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</p>
<p>inner sleeve:  plain white. </p>

<p>lp ring: blue/black with white epic logo and silver track =
listing.</p>

<p>cd:</p>
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<p>side 1: </p>

<p>conversation (3:06)<br>
1 2 3 (4:15)<br>
conversation (1:43)<br>
southland in the spingtime (4:17)<br>
conversation (2:09)<br>
hammer and a nail (live) (3:51)<br>
conversation (2:19)<br>
melissa (live) (4:36)*</p>

<p>side 2: </p>

<p>conversation (4:37)<br>
watershed (live) (5:32)<br>
conversation  (3:03)<br>
pushing the needle too far (live) (4:17)<br>
conversation (1:49)<br>
you and me of the 10,000 wars (live) (4:20)<br>
conversation (1:17)<br>
daddy's all gone (live) (3:37)*</p>

<p>interview by shawn colvin in new york, august, 1990.<br>
*recorded at the paramount theater, denver, colorado, on october 21 and =
22, 1990.</p>

<p>engineered and mastered by vic anesini.</p>
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since you guys are talking about the ig dressing room, i thought i'd share
this list found on a website sometime ago...


indigo girls performance rider (revised 2/97)

                                  dressing room catering

to be placed in the indigo girls dressing room at 3:30pm. please purchase
foods at a natural/health foods store. when
available, please use organically grown fresh vegetables and fruits. no
nabisco products. clean china and stainless steel cutlery
will be provided along with clean glasses. unwaxed paper cups may be used as
an alternative.

1 vegetable tray for sandwiches (for 2) to include the following:

fresh sliced carrots (lots)
1 seedless sliced cucumber
1 sliced tomato
sliced dill pickles
1 bowl humus
a natural herbal dip
please use organic vegetables when possible

1 large bag each:

non-fat potato chips
non-fat pretzels
non-fat corn chips
non-fat blue corn chips (regular may be substituted for those only)
zapp's potato chips (jalapeno or cajun flavor)(optional)

1 bag whole wheat pita bread
6 fresh bagels (plain, sesame or poppyseed only- no raisin, blueberry, etc.
1 small tub of non-fat bean dip
1 small tub of light cream cheese
1 bowl fresh salsa
2 granny smith apples
2 red delicious apples
3 bananas
2 oranges
assorted herbal teas (caffeine free) and english breakfast caffeine tea
1 box medicinal "throat coat" tea
sliced lemon, sugar, honey, cream for tea
1 six pack diet ginger ale
1 six pack coke classic
1 six pack diet coke
24 1.5 liter bottles of spring water from local spring water company (please
don't bottle yourself)
3 23oz glass bottles perrier water
1 pint natural apple juice or fresh orange juice
1 bottle gatorade light (if you can't find it, get regular)
6 assorted hanson's or corrs natural sodas
6 bottles assorted fruit spritzer
36 bath towels (must be pre-washed)
1 water kettle to boil water only (without coffee smell)
fresh coffee and tea service
unwaxed recycled paper cups, plates, bowls- no styrofoam
cloth or recycled paper napkins
stainless steel cutlery
local newspaper and weekly entertainment magazine
new york times paper
6 local post cards with stamps

well, there it is. that is for the indigo girls and their band alone. the
crew, and lift are totally separate lists (and a lot less demanding, i might
add). a little birdie told me that this list has become a lot longer and more
specific in the last few years.

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okay, is anyone actually going to the box office and trying really hard to
get excellent seats for this show?  if so, please let me know.  if you'll
help me out i'd be forever grateful.  thanks!
----------------------------------------------------------
sheryl jones
sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu
cooper seay page:
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bootleg page: http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/3349/boots.htm

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this is very hard to do, but i will try...

1. wood song
2. prince of darkness
3. love will come to you
4. joking
5. fugitive

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1. you left it up to me
2. fugitive
3. jonas & ezekial (w/cooper.  this *is* a fantasy!)
4. mystery
5. up in smoke

cover....
  keep on rockin' in the free world
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in a message dated 8/25/99 1:48:12 am central daylight time,
kayindigo@aol.com writes:

<< 2.  mystery- is there anyone out there who loves this line: "i could go
crazy
on a night like tonight - when summer's beginning to give up her fight . .
and every thought's a possibility. .. ) as much as i do? >>

oh yeah!!!!!  that is probably my all-time favorite line from an ig song.  i
have lived most of my life in the southeast or texas, which is where i am now
and i live for those wonderful "just starting to be fall" nights whent the
air finally has some coolness in it, bringing with it all the possibilities
of fall, which will always be the harbinger of a new school year for me, even
though i just turned 40 and haven't actually been in school for almost ten
years now ... unfortunately, here in dallas (is [or should that be are] ig
ever coming back here?!?), that night probably won't be here until october!

peace,

pam

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here's my fantasy list:

fugitive
reunion
mystery
ghost
touch me fall

cover: u2's "i still haven't found what i'm looking for"

peace,

pam

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1. power of two (rockin' version from the suffragette sessions tour - summer
of '98)
2. dead man's hill
3. language or the kiss
4. you left it up to me
5. mystery


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all sorts of tangents:

top 5:

sister
touch me fall (with "i will not be complacent soc)
love will come to you
boys just laugh
go

cover: (its a tie) wish you were here, or weakness in me
(hmmm, i'm not amy biased...no, not me)

girl musicians (see also heroes):

i, too, can't seem to get quite past the music-listener-gender-barrier
(though i'm learning to try)...its a variation, i suppose, on the "shoot, i
only wanna listen to lesbins" phase i went through when i was starting to
come out (thus the god knows how many nights in a row of melissa ethridge
and dissapear fear), and entirely unfair and unfounded...or is it (and jill,
come shoot me for my ellipses abuse, because i'm about to go a-ranting and
grammar's not gonna stop me).  i wanted to find someone i could identify
with--or did i want someone to look up to (or are they just the same thing,
separated out by the chance or lack of chance that i will ever meet the
"identifiable" person).  i said it then, i'll still say it--i came out
(however marginally) after reading the liner notes to 1200 curfews
(specifically amy's bit about "love's recovery".  maybe that's silly--maybe
that's just emulation of a woman i look up to (not the girl liking part, but
the desire to talk about it).  or maybe that's seeing a part of myself for
what it is, only after seeing it in another person's life.  maybe that's
what a hero is; or a role model; or an admirable everyday life...seeing a
part of yourself in someone else's persona (whether that persona is an
accurate reflection of the person in question is a whole different story).
which winds back to this whole question of "girl musicians" vs. musicians in
general.  i'm a fledgeling guitar player, banging my head and my heart
against this whole music thing trying to get beyond "mediocre".  and while
my practice is fueled by a love for playing, it's also fueled by the fear of
being "just another girl who can't really play".  call it my own insecurity.
  call it the 6:1 m/f ratio in my last guitar class.  at some level, i want
to be a musician, instead of a "girl" musician. (and as for that whole
"women don't lock themselves in their rooms and throw themselves into their
music as much as men do" thing, the only two times before this year that i
really threw myself into playing were the weeks following my breakups with
nightmare girlfriend #1 and nightmare girlfriend #2--i highly recomend
breakups as a great way to become a better musician; ex's are also an
excellent source of material for songwriting.  but i digress from my own
digression).

but wait, you say, didn't i say that i'm still not past this
"gender/listener/whachamacalit barrier"?  if i want to be just another  joe,
where does that come in to play?

i know tim has referred to the music he listens to as 'beyond
categorization' or 'beyond definition' (i don't remember offhand the exact
wording); and while i'd like to say the same about my cd collection, its a
little glaring that its, oh, 95% female (or female fronted)...the vast
majority of musicians i've found whose music really touches me are women; i
can find myself in the words of the indigo girls or ani difranco or patty
griffin much easier than i can find myself in the words of joe rock star
(and given my tendency to listen to new artists who ...its only in the last
year or so that i've found male singer/songwriter types who equally rock my
world.  and yes, they are there.  no emily, i don't think its 'wrong' or
'bad' to want more female role models in the music world.  but i also agree
with whoever the heck it was that said that "someone has to go first" (and i
also have to say that there are cool guys out there who won't pidgeonhole
you into whatever chickie-musician-stereotype that the dodo ones do--seek
them out.  they're nifty.).

and at some level, i think you have to look past the girl/guy division and
just be, or look up to, or listen to, what makes sense to you....

(...?)

which this ramble is probably not.

oh well,
shel


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(delurks)  okay... this was extremely tough to do...  but i'm gonna give it a
go:

1. wood song
2. watershed
3. power of two
4. get out the map
5. strange fire

cover:  up on a roof (written by... ??? covered by james taylor)

that's my fav's.... and many thanks to the ever-generous tara for her wonderful
offer!  she'll make a great bride, don'tcha think?  :-)

with a big, big smile, and wishes of beautiful harmonies,

-- deb (loba)

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i'm working on updating and moving the chartreuse girls pages to a xoom account
(instead of yahoo!geocities, which i'm not very happy with at the moment).  a
friend of mine told me about a commonbond song called "closer to dyke".  does
anyone know where i could get a hold of the lyrics?

:)
anna

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in a message dated 8/25/1999 2:16:46 pm central daylight time,
lbuck919@aol.com writes:

<< fresh sliced carrots (lots) >>

hmmm...  they must have excellent vision! :o)

personally, i don't know how they and the band could find time between 3:30
and the time they leave the venue that night to eat all of that stuff.  maybe
they take it on the bus to tide them over 'til the next day!

peace!

joan

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hey y'all, i have kind of a weird question.  you know the suzanne vega song
"tom's diner"?  (of course you do.)  well, has this song appeared on any
compilation albums or soundtracks?  or has another artist covered it?  i ask
because when i saw suzanne at lilith fair, i was really excited when she
played that song.  i knew the song and most of the lyrics.  the thing is i
don't know *how* i know the song.  i only have one of her albums and tom's
diner isn't on it.  i don't think i would have heard it on the radio before,
because there are really no stations around here that would play a song like
that.  i just can't figure out how i know the song.

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hello ig lovers,
i burned a copy of *shades of indigo* in hopes of finding a cd (if
possible) copy of *blue food* or the all-amy boot (i don't recall the
name, it's not new though).  if anyone is interested and can help,
please e-mail me.  i'm dying to hear these...
thanks,
nancy

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tom's diner is on the women & songs compilation. maybe that's where you
heard it?

and i forget who asked (elaine?) but mona lisas & mad hatters is from honky
chateau.

while i'm here, my top 5:

you & me of the 10,000 wars
the wood song
nashville
ghost
chickenman

and for the cover: the weakness in me

back to lurkdom.

andrea


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>date: wed, 25 aug 1999 16:23:32 pdt
>
>hey y'all, i have kind of a weird question.  you know the suzanne vega song
>"tom's diner"?  (of course you do.)  well, has this song appeared on any
>compilation albums or soundtracks?  or has another artist covered it?  i
>ask
>because when i saw suzanne at lilith fair, i was really excited when she
>played that song.  i knew the song and most of the lyrics.  the thing is i
>don't know *how* i know the song.  i only have one of her albums and tom's
>diner isn't on it.  i don't think i would have heard it on the radio
>before,
>because there are really no stations around here that would play a song
>like
>that.  i just can't figure out how i know the song.
>
>liz
>
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>beth amsel she's one of the voices on the verge
>guys, she's *amazing*.

oh my god, mandy is so right.
holy jeebers, i shoulda told you about beth. i'm sorry.
so the beth amsel story is pretty wild.
a friend of hers called her up one day.  he was in jail, and needed her to
bail him out.  she, being the nice chicky she is, did.  as repayment, he
gave her his old guitar.
like mine, that guitar sat, unused, in beth's house.
for years.
two years.
one day, she decided it was round about time to pick the thing up.
a week later (?!), she was playing an open mic.
that was, i'm guessing, a couple years ago.  now she's on the voices on the
verge tour, and also plays shows independently (i think her tour schedule is
posted on musi-cal).
please go check her out.  you'll just freak.  she's utterly *incredible*
(even if jess insists she doesn't exist in this realm)  and just a very
lovely woman, in person and in her songs.
i've never heard a voice like that before. all expletives and adjectives may
herein be applied.
go listen if you think i'm exaggerating:
>http://www.angelfire.com/ma/bethamsel/
>order her cd at bethamsel@aol.com.

it ain't bragging if it's true,
jill


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i am soooo happy to see that so many people are putting
love will come to you on their lists, it has finally emerged
as my most likely candidate for favorite ig song ever. it was
also the first song of theirs that i heard, and i can't decide
whether that's why it's my favorite or just a coincidence.
anyway, since i'm writing, i guess i can take a stab at my
fantasy set list...
1. love will come to you
2. southland in the springtime
3. language or the kiss
4. nashville
5. it won't take long

shannon

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and todays prize of cybercandy goes to tim with his wild horses answer:

<<that would be the flying burrito brothers with gram parsons on lead
vocal.....>>

tom's diner actually got to number one in england when dna did a bootleg
remix of it. i guess ms. vega heard it and put it out. many versions (one by
rem, one called 'jeannie's diner') got made into tom's album.

i'm guessing the remix has permeated into the collective unconsiousness of
the usa also somehow...

and for today's ig trivia question:

cortez the killer is to southern man
and
all along the watchtower is to tangled up in blue
as
the weight is to ???
and
american tune is to ???

i have a life, honest :o)

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this week, neil 'as been mostly groovin' to:
va - the gram parsons' tribute (gram rules!), roxette 'have a nice day'
(pure pop for narrow people), julie miller 'broken things', the everly
brothers reunion concert
song o' the week simon & garfunkel 'cecilia' (bangin' bottles mix)

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hey all!  i think somebody on this list mentioned furslide a few days ago.
i'm sitting here listening to their album, and i like it alot.  can anybody
give me some info about them?

thanks!
em

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ok - i've been lurking - but i'm jumping into the "anyone know where i can
find" fray:
i had a boot with:
sweet melissa
all along the watchtower
uncle john's band
spanish harlem
get together
and several others i can't remember right now - a friend o' mine gave me a
copy (tape) of the boot back in 89 or 90.  somebody had taped it at a show in
atlanta - i believe.  anyway - it was a great line up - and i can play most
of it in my head.  unfortunately the tape was worn out/lost in one of my many
moves.  help if anyone knows this obscure boot - i'd sure like another copy.
thanks
sonja

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subject:      indigo girls tribute show in buffalo....saturday,
              august 28 at compton's after dark

hkf's,

several months ago my friend aerin and i discussed the idea of doing an ig
tribute show.  after months of pleading and cajoling (aerin did the work,
but i did offer moral support), we're ready to unveil our western ny
acoustic artists' tribute to amy and emily...

scheduled performers include:

    aerin tedesco and tim baldwin
    katie miller
    rose marion and doty hall
    paddy kilrain  (from schenectady ny)
    kathy moriarity
    mike schenkel
    jen guillow, aerin, and tim
    jolie christine rickman  (from syracuse ny)
    kim kerns and mike maffei
    kim and aerin
    finale (closer to fine with all performers and possibly audience
    members-if they aren't too drunk?)

compton's is a really cool women's bar with an outdoor patio surrounded on
three sides by an undersea mural (one woman's work) that has to be seen to
be believed.....

i'm sure the night will be a blast.....

tim

check out compton's after dark at:
http://www.tcfb.com/comptons/index.html

and also check out aerin's website:
http://www.pce.net/mischenk/

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so, does anyone know who is opening the davidson show...or any of them for that
matter.  let me know if you have an idea.
thanks,
johnna

emistar919@aol.com wrote:

> hey all!  i think somebody on this list mentioned furslide a few days ago.
> i'm sitting here listening to their album, and i like it alot.  can anybody
> give me some info about them?
>
> thanks!
> em
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date: wednesday, august 25, 1999 9:47 pm
subject: re: nigc: tom's diner + today's stuff


>and for today's ig trivia question:
>
>cortez the killer is to southern man
>and
>all along the watchtower is to tangled up in blue
>as
>the weight is to ???  up on cripple creek
>and
>american tune is to ???  graceland
>
>i have a life, honest :o)  so do i, it's called "music" :)
>
>@}--,--'--
>
>
>abi's page!!! http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/abi/abi.html
>this week, neil 'as been mostly groovin' to:
>va - the gram parsons' tribute (gram rules!), roxette 'have a nice day'
>(pure pop for narrow people), julie miller 'broken things', the everly
>brothers reunion concert
>song o' the week simon & garfunkel 'cecilia' (bangin' bottles mix)
>
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in a message dated 8/22/99 9:25:44 am central daylight time,
whatiheard@aol.com writes:

> indigo girls, sept. 29, 8 p.m., bjcc concert hall,  birmingham, al, $25, on
>  sale
>  aug. 28
>

does anyone have any further info on this?  i've checked ticketbastard and
can't find anything, or on epic either.

ready to purchase tics, waving money in hands, i'm coming up fruitless.

thanks,
summer

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subject:      re: nigc:  beth amsel

let me chime in with some three part harmony.....beth's contribution to
fresh tracks is one of the standout tracks on the sampler.....i was going to
say *the* standout track, but then i remembered 'olga's birthday' and
'or'......

does anyone have any information on megan toohey?

tim

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>>beth amsel she's one of the voices on the verge
>>guys, she's *amazing*.
>
>oh my god, mandy is so right.
>holy jeebers, i shoulda told you about beth. i'm sorry.

>please go check her out.  you'll just freak.  she's utterly *incredible*
>(even if jess insists she doesn't exist in this realm)  and just a very
>lovely woman, in person and in her songs.
>i've never heard a voice like that before. all expletives and adjectives
may
>herein be applied.
>go listen if you think i'm exaggerating:
>>http://www.angelfire.com/ma/bethamsel/
>>order her cd at bethamsel@aol.com.
>
>it ain't bragging if it's true,
>jill

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anyone on the list near boise, idaho?

just curious, as i've had good friends move out there recently...and, the man
is mike cappell, aka sex chicken, previously leader of the band lochness
johnny (when they lived in cola, sc).

if you live near the area and get a chance to go and see mike perform, it's
worth it.  wonderful musician...great guy...and, all around good show.

and, if anyone would like a copy of the lochness johnny cd after seeing mike
perform in boise (boise!  why did they have to move so far away), i can make
copies.

:-)~ ctofine

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i'm looking for laura amussen.  you e-mailed me about boots, and i tried to
write back, but it said your address didn't exist.  please e-mail me if
you're still interested & give me the correct address.

andi
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in a message dated 8/25/99 8:47:53 pm, neily@netreach.net writes:

<< tom's diner actually got to number one in england when dna did a bootleg
remix of it. i guess ms. vega heard it and put it out. many versions (one by
rem, one called 'jeannie's diner') got made into tom's album. >>

tom's restaurant is five blocks from columbia, which is where suzanne vega
went to school. "listening to the bells of the cathedral" is about st. john
the divine, which is also right there. have i missed something?
-laura, who will in six days be in school in that very place =)

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>         http://www.angelfire.com/ma/bethamsel/

i checked out the sound clip, and it sounds great.  in spite of what the
web site says; there *is* a cd available.   here's the info i got back from
beth:

>dear deb,
>      thank you for your note.   word of mouth amazes me...i do, indeed, now
>have a cd available: a thousand miles (which includes saint mark and means to
>this end). you can purchase a copy by sending a check or money order for
>$15.00 (made out to beth amsel) and your mailing address to: po box 218
>leeds, ma 01053.  i have been including in a lyric book for folks who order
>because of hearing about the cd on an internet list.  it's a way for me to
>give back to all of you for your support.
>      i hope this finds you well in the waning days of summer (late afternoon
>thunderstorms are always a good thing).
>take care, deb,
>beth

thanks for the recommendation, mandy!

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subject:      re: nigc: tom's diner + today's stuff
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> and for today's ig trivia question:
>
> cortez the killer is to southern man
> and
> all along the watchtower is to tangled up in blue
> as
> the weight is to ???

        the band, i think.

> american tune is to ???

        paul simon. this one i know. i like his version; it's less urgent
than the girls', and maybe feels a bit older, but it just isn't the same.

        mandy


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        if you try to touch the sun
        undermine the underground
        you're too old to care, you're too young to count
                                -amy ray, "go"

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for those curious about the flow of events at the bumbershoot arts
festival in seattle, you can find the complete schedule at
http://www.bumbershoot.com/pdffiles/bs99_grid.pdf.  there's been some
confusion about what's happening when, and this should clear it all up.
see ya there!

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hey!

sorry for the nigc, but is anyone on this list in japan?  please e-mail me if you are.  i am in the kansai area now, and i would love to talk to another ig fan in japan!

thanks!
karen :-)


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<< << fresh sliced carrots (lots) >>

hmmm...  they must have excellent vision! :o)

personally, i don't know how they and the band could find time between 3:30
and the time they leave the venue that night to eat all of that stuff.  maybe
they take it on the bus to tide them over 'til the next day!

peace!

joan >>

and 36 towels?  how many people were in the band that day? at least we know
they're clean...no matter how many times in a row amy wears an outfit:)

pax, celeste:)

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so on a recent trip to melbourne australia i was lucky enough to see the bluehouse perform. they're a pretty rocky group with lovely harmonies, interesting songs and a wicked (almost lewd) sense of humour... they've won the edinborough festival for the last three years...

the performance i saw was being video'ed to be played via the internet on the 27th of august oz time (thats 26th of augy for you yanks)... you can see it at http://www.vintrix.com.au/ if you look there now there's a short interview with them so you can see how cute they are...

if you are lucky enough to be in or near melbourne tommorow (friday 27/08/99) then check them out launching their new album!! they are performing somewhere in st kilda i think... neil finn is supposedly their surprise guest star...


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heard this on the radio today.  the ig and various other female artists have
all done tracks for an album to benefit breast cancer research/victims.  the
album is being used as music for a tv show that will be on pbs and will air
in october.  the show and the album are both titled "climbing against the
odds."  the album is due to be released soon.

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someone was talking about awesome live performances and mentioned beck... beck is total eye-candy in concert, i'd definately agree with ya there!! such show-man-ship...

i saw ben folds five recently perform and wow! they can put on an awesome live show as well!! not as polished as beck, and there's only three of them, but they can sure work an audience into a frenzy... crazy dancing, tenuous licks and fiddly piano work...

although i'm sure our illustrious (ex?) list mom sherlyn would not approve of the piano work... you still hate leeds, sherlyn?? heh... you classical players... so funny ... anyway...

now back to your regularily scheduled threads...


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of course i meant the edinburgh festival... ahem...

anyway check them out on the web page, and download one of there cool songs from mp3.com ...

http://www.bluehouse.net
http://www.mp3.com/artists/21/the_bluehouse.html

or watch them live! that link again is

http://www.vintrix.com.au


gyad, i've been working far too long.... g'night!!!


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hi,
can someone please send me the chords to go or tell me if it's somewhere
on the net?  i've got the no bondaries cd and it doesn't sound like it
would be too hard to play if you knew the chords.
thanks,
annie

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tim asked
>does anyone have any information on megan toohey?

you know,
this is frustrating.
meg toohey has a webpage. somewhere.
i was there, not two weeks ago.  found it while fishing around online for
like beth amsel tour dates or something.
anyhow, now i absolutely cannot find it again.

anybody?  where on god's green earth is her webpage?
somebody tell meg we're looking for her.

i'll tell you all that i do know, which is very minimal--
she's a thin androgyne in her early 20s, went to the berklee college of
music to study voice, and usually plays with a band (her webpage is actually
for her band as well).  oh, and she's sizzling sparking snapping good.  i
mean reeeeally freaking suave.  her music is real funky, tinged bluesy jazzy
smoky.  sort of like erin mckeown.  but only mildly sort of.  and she has a
really cool voice-- it's not wildly vibrato-ed like beth amsel's, but it's
swoops and soars in a really nice way. (apologies for that
adjectivally-pathetic sentence.) all that, and her guitar skills are
mindblowing.  she goes off on these improv solos that are neverending and
wild.
hasn't anyone seen her play?  i saw her sneaking around newport-- i have a
photo of her on guitar behind jennifer kimball on the smaller stage (meg was
the one in them snappy plaid pants, if it sparks your memory.  real short
brown hair, rail thin, plaid pants) and i know she plays around boston a
lot.

kelly fairbairn, where are you?  remember, we saw meg and erin in february?
what did you think of her set?

(ha ha,
i'm going to make you sit there and listen to me babble on and on about all
my favorite musicians!  you are microscopic cogs in my catastrophic plan!
resistance is futile!  cease deleting!)

jill


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>>>word of mouth amazes me...i do, indeed, now have a cd available

beth amsel used ellipses.

i recant.
i now am highly tolerant,
nay, lovingly accepting
of the dotted punctuation.

fire away.
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i believe it was tara (?) who just recently made the offer to makes cdr =
copies of her shades of indigo cd, for folks who were interested?! well, =
as i was trying to move that message so i could respond to it, i somehow =
"lost" it somewhere in my computer...can't find it anywhere! tara, if it =
was you, or whoever it was, if you wouldn't mind too terribly much, =
could you please resend that offer to me at my private addy?=20

thanks so much,

laura

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is it the music or the message?

i love disappear fear, especially the sisterly harmonies...but i can feel
the pain that led to the creation of a song like 'box of tissues' as if it
were my own......

i've undergone an interesting personal metamorphosis during the past decade,
and especially within the past two or three years, that i think is relevant
to the ongoing discussion.  until recently, i had always considered myself,
first and foremost, a blues-rock guitarist, with the emphasis on
blues.....that is, until i discovered that the blues scene, at least in this
area, is populated by 'musicians' who play with as much fire and passion as
a bored piano player in a holiday inn lounge......

without looking, i'd wager that at least 80% of my cd purchases (and that
may be a conservative figure) over the past several years have been recorded
by women artists, not because of any reverse gender bias, but simply because
of the creativity and passion in the music....

i'm not impressed by dazzling displays of technique, or rapid-fire riffs
learned by rote, and most jazz bores the hell out of me.....(i say this not
out of disrespect, but merely to illustrate a point)......

women are creating new standards every day.....if you listen to a lot of
music, make a note of what you hear that sounds fresh and innovative, and
see if you agree....(i know i'm preaching to the choir here)....

the best advice i can give any aspiring artist is to do your best to set
your own standard.....the people you are emulating are already old
news....(which is why our beloved girls keep re-inventing themselves with
each new studio album).....it took me years of playing to develop a unique
guitar style, more years to develop songwriting skills, and more time still
to develop an expressive singing voice that is really *me*.....the latter
would have never happened if it weren't for the example and inspiration of
my friends and also the welcome feedback i've received from the listees with
whom i've shared some of my music.....sincere thanks.....

peace,
tim

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>all sorts of tangents:
>
>i, too, can't seem to get quite past the music-listener-gender-barrier
>(though i'm learning to try)...

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whoo hoo, i am back to work, yeah!!!!!! and since i have been busy this week
i am just now getting around to this one.

dream set list:

1.  touch me fall
2.  go
3.  blood and fire
4.  romeo and juliet
5.  power of two

to me these are the most passionate of all of their songs

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
peace love & indigo light
your friend
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ooops forgot the cover, i have to admit, i would love to hear them do house
at pooh's corner live. i love that cover......

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
peace love & indigo light
beccie lyon

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>whoo hoo, i am back to work, yeah!!!!!! and since i have been busy this
week
>i am just now getting around to this one.
>
>dream set list:
>
>1.  touch me fall
>2.  go
>3.  blood and fire
>4.  romeo and juliet
>5.  power of two
>
>to me these are the most passionate of all of their songs
>
><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>peace love & indigo light
>your friend
>beccie lyon
>
>move me, thrill me, take me out of my existence and show me the stars.
>
>

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the following article was written by larry filick for billboard magazine:


new york (bpi) - in recording their seventh epic collection, ''come on now
social,'' indigo girls
emily saliers and amy ray set out to create a communal studio atmosphere,
wherein friends and colleagues could casually drop in and contribute bits of
harmony or instrumentation.

the resulting album, due sept. 28, has a comfortably loose, organic flow that
is also remarkably cohesive. the set evolved from a jam session in london
with ghostland, a u.k. band that supported sinead o'
connor during the 1998 lilith fair tour.

''the chemistry between us was incredible,'' says saliers, noting that the
duo wound up hiring ghostland leader john reynolds to produce ''come on now
social,'' as well as importing his bandmates caroline dale, clare kenny, and
carol issacs to southern tracks studio in atlanta to play on the album. the
sessions went so well that the band is backing saliers and ray during this
year's lilith fair and on the
duo's own fall tour of the states.

also appearing on the album are natacha atlas; luscious jackson drummer kate
schellenbach; me'shell ndegeocello; joan osborne, who provides background
vocals on the infectious, guitar-driven rocker
''go''; and sheryl crow, who makes an appearance on the folk-spiced ''gone
again.''

''we met most of them while doing the lilith fair, which is cool. they added
to the free-flowing flavor of
the album,'' says ray, who credits reynolds with seamlessly integrating the
guest performers into the
set's musical fabric. ''he was great at ensuring that it didn't look like us
saying, 'hi, here are a few of our famous friends.' everything had to make
musical sense.''

ray and saliers also acknowledge reynolds' key role in harnessing the
stylistic direction of the set,
which is perhaps the duo's most diverse to date. in addition to their
signature folk/pop sound, saliers
and ray dabble in punk-infused rock, reggae, appalachian music, and blues.
prime cuts include the aggressive saliers rocker ''trouble'' and ray's
mournful, celtic-spiked ballad ''faye tucker,'' which
was inspired by karla faye tucker - who on feb. 3, 1998, became the first
woman to be executed by the state of texas since the civil war.

at the core of the project are lyrical themes that saliers says are ''typical
indigo girls fare. the words are always earnest and heartfelt. we still make
social commentary, and we still sing about love. we're just occasionally
framing our words in different styles of music, and that keeps us fresh as an
act.''

the future of indigo girls will, no doubt, be called into question once word
circulates that ray is planning
to cut a solo album within the next year. ''it's just something i need to get
out of my system,'' says ray,
who is eyeing the possibility of issuing the set on her own indie label,
daemon records. ''it's not going to
be a big deal. i just want to make a punky little record.''

the idea ''sits just fine'' with saliers, who took her own solo steps earlier
this year by dueting with
vonda shepard on the hit ''baby don't you break my heart slow.'' ''we love
each other and support
each other's desire and need to experiment. i can't wait to hear what she
comes up with, quite frankly.''

it will be several months before ray has time to focus on the project, as she
and saliers prepare to begin promoting ''come on down social.''

ray says the duo would ''happily welcome'' airplay, but they no longer covet
it. ''it seems like formats
are so narrow now that we'd never squeeze in. also, we're not willing to make
a record that panders and exists purely for radio. we prefer to please
ourselves and our fans.''

to that end, the heart of the label's marketing plan for the project is
touring. ''this is an act that thrives
in a live setting,'' says chris poppe, vice president of marketing at the
label. ''there is nothing like the energy of an indigo girls concert. the
audience just adores them. needless to say, they'll be touring well
into the new year.''

expectations are high for ''come on now social,'' which follows 1997's
''shaming of the sun.''
the latter set entered the billboard 200 at no. 7, and it went on to sell 2.5
million copies, according to soundscan. ''this is such an important act to
us,'' poppe notes. ''besides being a superstar entity, they
have a musical integrity that few in this industry can claim.''

saliers modestly laughs at such accolades. ''personally, i don't think we'll
ever be accessible enough to
catch a wave of mainstream consciousness,'' she says. ''we've done well, but
i don't view us as wildly successful.''

ray agrees. ''but being called a superstar act feels kinda weird. i prefer to
think of us as an act that's fortunate enough to write songs that connect
with a respectable audience.''

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anne maynes <n1910493@sparrow.qut.edu.au> wrote:
only 5 songs to choose...that's a toughie.
here goes:

and just for fun, i would love them to do a cover of the "you don't own
me" song from the first wives club movie.

-ok. that would be hilarious. very cool idea. i was just thinking it might be
fun if they did gloria gainor's (sp?) "i will survive" they could come up with
some awesome harmony for that... anyway, i'd like you all to know that i have
been practially losing sleep over this dream set list thing. every day i come
up with a different set of 5. i already posted mine, but it hit me last night,
very very late "you idiot! you forgot blood and fire, and dead man's hill"
that sent me into a spiral of frenzied thought from which i have emerged with
the conclusion: it is absolutley impossible (and painful in my case!) to pick
just 5 songs! but i have loved reading all of yours.... so what if i lie awake
at night trying to think of covers ig should do? =0)
oh, which reminds me... has anyone heard, and im sure many of you die-hards
have, a song ig did called 'wild wild party in the loquat tree'?? it is the
funniest and cutest song i think i have ever heard, esp. b/c ig is singing
it.... it's on a cd called 'put on your green shoes' - a benefit for
environmental causes... all i have to say, for those of you who may not have
heard it, is that amy and emily make animal noises during the song. (the cd is
mostly children's songs) i was a nanny over the summer, and each time i piled
the kids into the car, they would beg me to put the song on, which came to be
known as 'the chatter song' b/c amy chatters like a squirrel in it. just
thought i'd share......... it's nice to know that i've recruited a 5 and a 7
year old to ig.
god bless,
karen

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ok. i feel like a moron. i just wrote a big post and i think i just sent it to
the person i was responding to about her cover idea - that ig sing 'you don't
own me' from the 1st wives club... i am so sorry i cannot remember your name,
but if you got the message, could you please post it to the list? thanks.....
sorry for the stupidity....
-karen

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 09:18:40 -0500
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i was walking about last night and i started thinking about the beatles.(i'm
still not sure why) but there's always someone claiming to be the 5th beatle. so
i started thinking, "who could be the 3rd indigo girl?" in other words, if they
were originally a trio who would have fit in perfectly? in my opinion it's a
toss up between brenda weiler (she is from fargo and is totally awesome,esp. in
concert, check her out at www.barkingdogrecords.com ) or mama cass (i know she's
gone but what trio they could have made). so what's everyone else's thoughts?

oh and my top five live:
1: kid fears (oh the luscious harmonies)
2: galileo
3: ctf (because i wouldn't feel complete w/o hearing it)
4: you left it up to me
5: a cover of me and bobby mcgee (i don't think they've ever done it but i'd
love to hear them)

mach' spab y'all,
josh

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sayeth amy:
>i just want to make a punky little record.''
aieeeeeeeeeee (and all the indiefreaks scream in their multipierced glee)(i
can hear sus and heather all the way from boston).
i *told* y'all
amyrayisapunkrocker.
god (or neil finn, maybe?) only knows what she's got "in her system" that's
gonna make its way to disc.  (or maybe *vinyl*??)
in the words of the now-absent bethany p.,
holy shnikeys.

uttereth the em:
>i don't view us as wildly successful.''
well, thank you, emily saliers,
for the most erroneous statement of the year.

when that reviewer mentioned how the audience loves to see them in concert,
he neglected to mention the full-contact nature of said "love."
ha.

girls, girls, girls.  what a wily wild duo you are.
rock on.  we're listening.

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the sessions went so well that the band is backing saliers and ray during
this year's lilith fair and on the duo's own fall tour of the states.
<<<<snip>>>>

hkf's,

just have to put my .02 about ig touring with a band and i'll keep it
straightforward & simple:  i want jerry!!!!

and no, not jerome john garcia, but the honorary lesbian (i've seen his
toaster) jerry marotta!!  (btw, that last honorary title was given by the
girls, i just don't make this stuff up!)  and he gets my vote for the third
indigo-person as well.  besides sara lee, michelle malone, or anyone else, i
believe that jerry is the glue that held together their live performances
for so long.  john reynolds is a great drummer/producer, but i felt that
jerry was more in touch with what amy & emily was trying to do up there on
stage.  it could be that he was much more familiar to the material, so it
would be unfair to compare him to john, but i am & just did & i think he is
an essential piece to the puzzle:

a+e+jm=ig-rocks!

8-)
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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 10:51:59 -0400
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hey everyone
its been a long long time since i've posted but i randomly decided to weigh
in on a couple of things.
re the ig contract rider  (the backstage stuff):
a) you *can* take it with you - leftovers for the bus the next day
b)some people donate the extra to shelters or food kitchens - i think they
have done so in the past, no?
c)a rider is a wish list of sorts - it includes everything and the kitchen
sink, in the hopes that people will accept as much of it as possible. a
musician might include "limo to and from the airport, and at the artist's
disposal for the duration of her stay" in her contract, but be perfectly
satisfied with a rental car or just a lift to and from the hotel and the
gig. the producer just needs to notify the musician what is and is not
feasible in the contract - if the musician isn't satisfied with the changes,
she doesn'tt need to sign. i don't think the indigo girls would cancel a
show because a venue was a couple of bags short on their chips.
i think its cool that they like to read the local newspapers, and try to
stay eco-friendly.

random items of business:
1) there is an article and a picture of danielle howle in the new issue of
acoustic guitar - cute anecdotes, and a good plug for catalog.
2)erin mckeown and rose polenzani (sorry if i spelled either wrong) will be
at the iota club in arlington, va this fall. its a great little  club, nice
acoustics, and has a local microbrew on tap that is worth the drive for that
alone. :)
3) sonia of disappear fear (and band) is kicking off a new tour this month,
and promoting her awesome and eclectic new album.
4) just out of curiousity, why is *everyone* releasing an album in the next
month or so? i'm going to go broke! in addition to the new catie curtis
(see, i'm already behind), there is sonia, melissa etheridge, ig...not that
i'm complaining. :) if it were october, i could understand why they were all
"coming out" with new stuff - sorry, bad pun.
5) i would like to come out of the proverbial closet to admit something i
never disclosed during the several discussions of the topic this year: my
cat is named galileo. he's a big black fluffy bruiser about the size of a
pony who has recently taken up the habit of stalking deer (including a six
point buck) at my girlfriend's parents' house. luckily, he hasn't caught one
yet.
6) on the thread of women in music...who are the female musicians that
people respect for their musicianship rather than their lyrics or voice or
"singer/songwriterness"? i'd like to put forward bonnie raitt, rory block,
joan crane (an amazing adirondack bluegrass/blues picker), sara lee as
examples.
7) anybody want to try  playing "six degrees of michael stipe" aka "six
degrees of stiperation" aka "can't get there from here"?  it works as well
as kevin bacon does for movies.

ah well, back to work...
sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 11:01:27 -0400
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maybe old news now, but there are new dates on the ig website:

www.indigogirls.com

including oct 8 at the patriot center near washington, dc

no tickt info on the site.

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just curious...how many more albums are left on the ig epic contract or is
'come on now social' the last one?  i remember reading an interview a while
back where amy was talking about not resigning with a major label that maybe
they would go with an indie label other than her own...she said she wouldn't
want to put emily in the awkward position of being on her label.

lu

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> 2.  mystery- is there anyone out there who loves
> this line: "i could go crazy
> on a night like tonight - when summer's beginning to
> give up her fight . .
> and every thought's a possibility. .. ) as much as i
> do?

that line, i think, is the most amazing ig lyric.
  last year i moved away from someone i had deep feelings for, because
i couldn't handle how intense our relationship was becoming (biggest
mistake i ever made - "running away") and i was not ready emotionally
to deal with my feelings and what they meant.
  every night after i would talk to her on the phone, i would drive to
the edge of town, up in the mountains, and play this song over and over
again.
  hearing this song still gives me the shivers, and i still love it
even more to this day.

  just my tiny two cents...

s.
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- melissa etheridge
i don't wanna talk about it, how you broke my heart.  if i stay here just a little bit longer, if i stay here won't you listen to my heart - indigo girls
i mock you with my monkey pants!! - oz


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on thu, 26 aug 1999, sarah pinsker wrote:
> 6) on the thread of women in music...who are the female musicians that
> people respect for their musicianship rather than their lyrics or voice or
> "singer/songwriterness"? i'd like to put forward bonnie raitt, rory block,
> joan crane (an amazing adirondack bluegrass/blues picker), sara lee as
> examples.

well, susan tedeschi knocked my socks off at newport, so i cast my vote
for her.  :)

kelly

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just a word real quick i ran home at lunch to get something popped online
and saw this....oh my god amy is doing a solo album!!!!!! wow i just i just
i just....am speechless.....cant wait....gotta run....bye......thinking
about this. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....oooooh i gotta go.....

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
peace love & indigo light
beccie lyon

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take me out of my existence and show me the stars.
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subject: billboard article


>the following article was written by larry filick for billboard magazine:
>
>
>new york (bpi) - in recording their seventh epic collection, ''come on now
>social,'' indigo girls
>emily saliers and amy ray set out to create a communal studio atmosphere,
>wherein friends and colleagues could casually drop in and contribute bits
of
>harmony or instrumentation.
>
>the resulting album, due sept. 28, has a comfortably loose, organic flow
that
>is also remarkably cohesive. the set evolved from a jam session in london
>with ghostland, a u.k. band that supported sinead o'
>connor during the 1998 lilith fair tour.
>
>''the chemistry between us was incredible,'' says saliers, noting that the
>duo wound up hiring ghostland leader john reynolds to produce ''come on now
>social,'' as well as importing his bandmates caroline dale, clare kenny,
and
>carol issacs to southern tracks studio in atlanta to play on the album. the
>sessions went so well that the band is backing saliers and ray during this
>year's lilith fair and on the
>duo's own fall tour of the states.
>
>also appearing on the album are natacha atlas; luscious jackson drummer
kate
>schellenbach; me'shell ndegeocello; joan osborne, who provides background
>vocals on the infectious, guitar-driven rocker
>''go''; and sheryl crow, who makes an appearance on the folk-spiced ''gone
>again.''
>
>''we met most of them while doing the lilith fair, which is cool. they
added
>to the free-flowing flavor of
>the album,'' says ray, who credits reynolds with seamlessly integrating the
>guest performers into the
>set's musical fabric. ''he was great at ensuring that it didn't look like
us
>saying, 'hi, here are a few of our famous friends.' everything had to make
>musical sense.''
>
>ray and saliers also acknowledge reynolds' key role in harnessing the
>stylistic direction of the set,
>which is perhaps the duo's most diverse to date. in addition to their
>signature folk/pop sound, saliers
>and ray dabble in punk-infused rock, reggae, appalachian music, and blues.
>prime cuts include the aggressive saliers rocker ''trouble'' and ray's
>mournful, celtic-spiked ballad ''faye tucker,'' which
>was inspired by karla faye tucker - who on feb. 3, 1998, became the first
>woman to be executed by the state of texas since the civil war.
>
>at the core of the project are lyrical themes that saliers says are
''typical
>indigo girls fare. the words are always earnest and heartfelt. we still
make
>social commentary, and we still sing about love. we're just occasionally
>framing our words in different styles of music, and that keeps us fresh as
an
>act.''
>
>the future of indigo girls will, no doubt, be called into question once
word
>circulates that ray is planning
>to cut a solo album within the next year. ''it's just something i need to
get
>out of my system,'' says ray,
>who is eyeing the possibility of issuing the set on her own indie label,
>daemon records. ''it's not going to
>be a big deal. i just want to make a punky little record.''
>
>the idea ''sits just fine'' with saliers, who took her own solo steps
earlier
>this year by dueting with
>vonda shepard on the hit ''baby don't you break my heart slow.'' ''we love
>each other and support
>each other's desire and need to experiment. i can't wait to hear what she
>comes up with, quite frankly.''
>
>it will be several months before ray has time to focus on the project, as
she
>and saliers prepare to begin promoting ''come on down social.''
>
>ray says the duo would ''happily welcome'' airplay, but they no longer
covet
>it. ''it seems like formats
>are so narrow now that we'd never squeeze in. also, we're not willing to
make
>a record that panders and exists purely for radio. we prefer to please
>ourselves and our fans.''
>
>to that end, the heart of the label's marketing plan for the project is
>touring. ''this is an act that thrives
>in a live setting,'' says chris poppe, vice president of marketing at the
>label. ''there is nothing like the energy of an indigo girls concert. the
>audience just adores them. needless to say, they'll be touring well
>into the new year.''
>
>expectations are high for ''come on now social,'' which follows 1997's
>''shaming of the sun.''
>the latter set entered the billboard 200 at no. 7, and it went on to sell
2.5
>million copies, according to soundscan. ''this is such an important act to
>us,'' poppe notes. ''besides being a superstar entity, they
>have a musical integrity that few in this industry can claim.''
>
>saliers modestly laughs at such accolades. ''personally, i don't think
we'll
>ever be accessible enough to
>catch a wave of mainstream consciousness,'' she says. ''we've done well,
but
>i don't view us as wildly successful.''
>
>ray agrees. ''but being called a superstar act feels kinda weird. i prefer
to
>think of us as an act that's fortunate enough to write songs that connect
>with a respectable audience.''
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hkf's,

so pretty vague subject right?!  i have some new stuff in my closet that i
want to get rid of...  errrrr...  wrong stuff...

my site (see below) has been updated with all of the dates as of now.  plus,
ticketbastard has some new dates for ig as well:
http://events.ticketmaster.com/

that's about it...  have fun at sandstone!  and more igc & nigc lilith
reviews please!!!!  this is the farewell summer!!!!

danke,
-mkc
a+e+jerry=ig

(ps: jewel is my third favorite goddess right now...  any other atlantans
agree?!)

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 10:46:58 -0700
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hkfs,

dream set list:

1.kid fears
2.shed your skin (the funky version)
3.hand me downs
4.watershed
5.hammer and a nail

cover: midnight train to georgia (with gladys knight
and the pips) now come on that would rock dont you
agree?

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yay!   make it easier.   why dont they ever play that one?

m
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>    i noticed no one has had ctf on their set list...hmmm...
>
>i sent my set list to susan and not to the whole list last night so here's
>what i choose:
>            * watershed
>            ** joking
>            *** romeo & juilet
>            **** make it easier
>            *****chickenman
>    for a cover song i'm torn between tangled up in blue & blister in the
sun
>            jennifer
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after seeing ig at 3 concerts earlier this month, i love the new band and
john reynolds.  they seemed to get more comfortable in successive shows and
it was different than before, which i liked.

old sweaters are nice, but so are new ones.

melissa
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> the sessions went so well that the band is backing saliers and ray during
> this year's lilith fair and on the duo's own fall tour of the states.
> <<<<snip>>>>
>
> hkf's,
>
> just have to put my .02 about ig touring with a band and i'll keep it
> straightforward & simple:  i want jerry!!!!
>
> and no, not jerome john garcia, but the honorary lesbian (i've seen his
> toaster) jerry marotta!!  (btw, that last honorary title was given by the
> girls, i just don't make this stuff up!)  and he gets my vote for the
third
> indigo-person as well.  besides sara lee, michelle malone, or anyone else,
i
> believe that jerry is the glue that held together their live performances
> for so long.  john reynolds is a great drummer/producer, but i felt that
> jerry was more in touch with what amy & emily was trying to do up there on
> stage.  it could be that he was much more familiar to the material, so it
> would be unfair to compare him to john, but i am & just did & i think he
is
> an essential piece to the puzzle:
>
> a+e+jm=ig-rocks!
>
> 8-)
> -mkc
> mcunningham5@earthlink.net
> http://home.earthlink.net/~mcunningham5/indigo.html
> "i said so little darlin' you get to feel it too..."
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meghan toohey's website address -

http://home.earthlink.net/~leaddaet/meg/main2.html

her personal email address (for to harass her about making a cd and playing
in your area) -  orangerock@aol.com

for booking and other such acts/info, contact: guamusic@aol.com


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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 13:53:59 edt
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hey everyone,

i called both venues today.

i am told that tix go on sale for the amherst date sept. 11th at 10am thru
ticketmaster and the box office.  i know that it's a friday...the box office
chick insisted the date was correct.  they will be playing at the mullen ctr.
on oct 16th.

i talked to 3 people today at the albany venue and they all confirm that ig
is not booked for oct 9th.  i guess they did talk to ig's "people" originally
and the thing fell thru.  i would expect that the date will be taken off the
epic site soon. (maybe replaced with a venue even closer to my house!)   if
someone else would like to call and give it a go...maybe new information will
result...i dunno.

feeling very proud i only used three sets of ellipsis,
chris

p.s. here's the info...ya big flowa!!

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 13:59:00 -0400
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before i post the latest update of the fantasy set list, here are my
personal pics to hear live:

1. walk away
2. mystery
(i really really love those two songs, and it makes me so happy that one is
a and one is e - they're both so great!)

3. you left it up to me
4. nashville (i just like it... !)
5. blood and fire (i know, i know, not gonna happen)


covers - oh lordy i do love their covers. i wish i could hear them all. you
can really hear the extra something they put into music when they do covers!

my choice: melissa

followed closely by elton john's come down in time. (elton was my first
rock fav - first concert etc... back in the early 70's. not a fan of
anything after 1976 though...)

others i'd really love to hear are:
down by the river
mona lisas and mad hatters
wild horses
knockin' on heaven's door
the weakness in me
thin line (argh - missed it on the last tour!)

and all the rest while we're at it.

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hey y'all,

just wanted to let everyone know that we can no longer be reached at this
address.  from now on, please contact us with fundraiser questions at:
ggohn@email.women.com

the contribition snail mail addy stays the same.

we'll be on the road for a couple of days, and i won't be able to return
messages until we get our new account set up.  i'll be posting the winners as
soon as i do.

thanks again for everything.
-greta & kristen

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 14:07:57 -0400
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hi all!

keep your fantasy set lists comin'! this concert is getting better and
better! (in case you missed it - send in your top five ig songs to hear in
a concert plus one cover).

here's the latest top 16 - i included everything that got 5 or more votes.
here i show the song title and the number of votes it received (as of noon,
thursday aug. 26th)

the wood song                           18
blood and fire                          11
love will come to you                   10
language or the kiss                    9
chickenman                                      8
you left it up to me                    8
fugitive                                        7
touch me fall                           7
power of two                            6
strange fire                            6
mystery                                 6
crazy game                                      5
get out the map                         5
ghost                                           5
pushing the needle too far              5
watershed                                       5
plus as many as possible from come on now social

cover:
tangled up in blue                      8
(romeo and juliet                               7)

great list, huh??
-s.

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 11:00:42 -0700
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josh mortenson wrote:
>
> so
> i started thinking, "who could be the 3rd indigo girl?" in other words, if they
> were originally a trio who would have fit in perfectly?


based on their first cd, i'd probably nominate michael stipe as the
third indigo girl.

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uncle, uncle!!!!!  i give in!!!!

here's my setlist of non-cons songs (wow, does that look stupid or what?)

1. history of us
2. 1 2 3
3. airplane
4. fare thee well
5. burn all the letters

wait a minute, that's not the right list...  have those remarks stricken
from the record...  let me retort...

acchhheemmmmm:

1. secure yourself
2. keeper of my heart
3. language or the kiss
4. love will come to you
5. fugitve

e: mona lisas and mad hatters

(why yes i'm an amy person, and amy is a mike person, any questions...)
(and fyi - songs on the bubble, but didn't make the cut: world falls,
virginia woolf, love's recovery, & ctf)

8-)
thanks for listening
a+e=ig

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 14:12:59 -0400
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on thu, 26 aug 1999 ilovindigo@aol.com wrote:

> hey everyone,

> i talked to 3 people today at the albany venue and they all confirm that ig
> is not booked for oct 9th.  i guess they did talk to ig's "people" originally
> and the thing fell thru.  i would expect that the date will be taken off the
> epic site soon. (maybe replaced with a venue even closer to my house!)   if
> someone else would like to call and give it a go...maybe new information will
> result...i dunno.
>
> feeling very proud i only used three sets of ellipsis,
> chris

were they trying to book the palace here in albany?  i thought it was a
little screwy when they said suny brockport.

figures!  grrrr...

kelly,
of great disgruntlement after hearing about a cancellation in albany.  :(
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%^  kelly fairbairn              %^
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ok here goes nothing...

1. tangled up in blue (because it was such a fabulous idea, karen)
2. touch me fall
3. love will come to you (must. see. girls. play. this. live.)
4. kid fears
5. blister in the sun (or wild horses with malone)

peace,
rick
listening to: me'shell ndegeocello/bitter
http://members.aol.com/rbsayre/cheese.html

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 14:28:12 edt
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interesting ig tidbits:
chicago lilith-
i was buying cds at the tower records booth when amy and emily's tour manager
came over with a bunch of sample daemon record stuff. the person selling the
cds asked with what the samples should be given away and the tour manager
responded that "amy is flexable. just give them to people buying indigo
related things." he gestured at me and my girlfriend (who is not a major ig
fan and was somewhat bemused by my breathless reaction), "like these two." so
praise the lord, i have now been gestured at buy someone who speaks to amy
and emily on a regular basis. woo-hoo.
milw.-
during the encore, amy and sheryl crow were next to one another and sheryl
leaned over and said something to amy. amy reached into the pocket at the
knees of her cargo pants and pulled out a container of wintergreen
lifesavers. she said something else to sheryl and sheryl tipped back her head
and amy poured some into her mouth. they both laughed and went back to
singing.
date: tue, 31 aug 1999 12:51:03 +0000
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quick review-
i thought that ig's set in milw. was terrific. they seemed really relaxed and
amy was very smiley.  i was able to see amy backstage watching the dixie
chicks (blech) and clapping. clothing : amy- black cargo pants, black tank
top, red silky asian looking shirt with a design on the bottom and flip flop
type sandels which she actually was able to do those huge rock and roll jumps
while wearing.
emily- (um long sleeve shirt, olive green maybe? pants similar to amy's well,
i guess i've just given myself away as an amy person. oops.)
they also talked a lot more between songs than they usually do at lilith. amy
said they had been bowling the night before at a place that is literally five
minutes from my house. curses. since they have friends in milw. they usually
hang out around the east side which drives me nuts cause i feel like i should
put some sort of radar on them so i know where i should go stand in order to
run into them.
if anyone carse, i also saw sarah m's dog and her husband ( i recognized the
dog first) randomly walking around outside the ampitheatres in both chicago
and milwaukee.
that's all.
--sarah

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in a message dated 8/24/99 9:42:34 pm eastern daylight time,
indigo1008@yahoo.com writes:

> cover -  'til tuesday's - coming up close

oooh yes.

random thought: i realized this week that my vacation begins on the 26th of
september... giving me two days to finish obsessively listening to paula
cole's 9/21 release amen, and freeing up 12 days- approximately 288 hours for
me to listen to the girls' new cd, uninterrupted by such paltry things as
work, books, cash registers.... :) kinda like fate is smiling upon me.

<grin>
  rick
slinking back into the lurky depths...

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 13:41:18 -0500
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ok, here's my fantasy:

1.  the wood song
2.  blood and fire
3.  don't give that girl a gun
4.  you left it up to me
5.  nashville
cover:  melissa

that's just at this moment...it appears to change with my moods.

how about another thread...why the wood song?  it seems to have touched
nearly everyone, but it's not one of their "big" songs (ctf, galileo, etc.)
my reason is that it's such a deep song with so many potential meanings - in
other words, it probably can be interpreted differently by almost
everyone...i've probably said "no one gets to miss the storm of what will be
just holding on for the ride..." about a thousand times.  it's just so true
and powerful...

thank you,

diane l. hartley
general manager
winstar professional services
office:  (214) 571-6068
cell:      (214) 837-6851

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 15:03:02 -0400
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on wed, 25 aug 1999 emistar919@aol.com wrote:

> hey all!  i think somebody on this list mentioned furslide a few days ago.
> i'm sitting here listening to their album, and i like it alot.  can anybody
> give me some info about them?

   that woulda been me...  :)
   furslide is fronted by jennifer turner, the talented and lovely
guitarist/singer whose largest claim to fame (unfortunately) is creating
those brilliant minimalistic riffs (and soprano "woo-woo"s) on natalie
merchant's "tigerlilly".
   i haven't had a chance to pick up their album yet, although i've
listened to snippets of it via the magic of crappy computer streaming
stuff.
   they have a web page at http://furslide.kaktusink.com.

   darius

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 15:16:15 -0400
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okay... taking a break from getting the 9:30 disc set all ready for the
branches (yes... the offer will be made shortly, be patient)... to send in
my votes...

1. lifeblood
2. never stop
3. watershed
4. hammer and a nail
5. make it easier

cover - love of the common people.

i know, pretty eclectic and i love nis - can ya tell?  why the heck don't
they rework and play some of those old songs that never made it to an album?
i love the stuff on the early recordings.  would be cool live.

okay... back to figuring out what to fill up the rest of the 9:30 discs
with...

love ya'll,
tara

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 14:30:08 -0500
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think there's some way we can get this list to the girls? :-)
----------------------------------------------------------
sheryl jones
sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu
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bootleg page: http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/3349/boots.htm

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 16:37:11 edt
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tom's diner was released several years ago (don't ask me how many, i don't
know) as a cover.  it was remixed by a couple of british dj's calling
themselves dna.  i have no idea where to find it, but i remember it cuz a
friend of mine was looking for it for her and her wife's anniversary, and we
had to ask the counter help at the record store about it.

this bit of random trivia brought to you by the walking whorehouse...oops i
mean warehouse of useless trivia...

dawn

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okay. so, here is my fantasy set list: (first runner up was the wood song)

three hits
land of canaan
you and me and the 10k wars
pushing the needle too far
love's recovery

cover: down by the river

also, could shannon mast (i think thats the last name but, i could be wrong
seeing as how it's been how many months since i sent you those tapes?!!)
please e-mail me???? thank you.

*katy*


"night falls like people into love.... we generate our own light to
compensate for the lack of light from above."   -=-ani difranco-=-

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just wondering if anyone saw leslie nuchow (slam!) perform at lilith in
tinley park on 8/19?  i'd love to hear what you thought.  please respond
privately.
thanks.
cheri

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okay, after much mental anguish, i think i've managed to come up with a
paltry 5 songs...in no particular order:

left it up to me
watershed
land of canaan
walk away
blood and fire (a girl can dream can't she?)

and my cover....

just for the simple humor factor, a cute nonsensical little ditty by they
might be giants called when it rains it snows.

dawn

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on the set lists and fantasy lists, many people have
mentioned the song "lifeblood".  can anyone tell me where
that is recorded, as i can't find it!

thanks,

olivia

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love of the common people
american tune
uncle john's band
melissa
secure yourself

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the opening act for the show on oct. 2 will
be three finger cowboy.
-angela

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<< i just want to make a punky little record.''>>

yeah!!!!!


<<as she and saliers prepare to begin promoting ''come on down social.''>>

what's this!?!?!?  let me guess who their opening act will be...hmmm...bob
barker?  :o)


<<ray says the duo would ''happily welcome'' airplay, but they no longer covet
it. ''it seems like formats are so narrow now that we'd never squeeze in.
also, we're not willing to make a record that panders and exists purely for
radio. we prefer to please ourselves and our fans.'' >>

that reminds me - i heard "hey kind friend" on 93.7 the phoenix (nashville
americana station) a couple of weeks ago.  freaked me out!

peace!

joan :-d

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<< the opening act for the show on oct. 2 will
be three finger cowboy. >>

does anyone know whether 3fc is touring with ig all fall?  i sincerely hope
they're not opening the nashville show.  flame me - i don't care - i've seen
them 3 times and though the singer is really nice, i cannot tolerate her
singing.  i would love for rose p. or 6x (who rock, btw!) to open.  <hoping>

peace!

joan :-d

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unneccesary babble for those of you still struggling to figure out how my
mind works (as am i)

indigo girls ish trivia as posed yesterday...

>>cortez the killer is to southern man
(neily young songs they've covered)

>>all along the watchtower is to tangled up in blue
(ditto bobby d)

the weight is to the night they drove old dixie down
(ditto j.r. robinson/the band)

american tune is to duncan
(and paul simon)

your question for today:
where did i put that envelope with the $200 in???

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abi's page!!! http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/abi/abi.html
this week, neil 'as been mostly groovin' to:
va - the gram parsons' tribute (gram rules!), roxette 'have a nice day'
(pure pop for narrow people), julie miller 'broken things', the everly
brothers reunion concert
song o' the week simon & garfunkel 'cecilia' (bangin' bottles mix)

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1 three hits
2 hand me downs
3 touch me fall
4 caramia
5 pushing the needle too far
cover- blister in the sun

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from:    peachy706@aol.com<br>
subject: sweet melissa<br>
<br>
sorry, i'm young and dumb ;)  what album (if there is one) is sweet
melissa<br>
on? who wrote it? thanks for making me knowledgable :)</blockquote><br>
<br>
not young and dumb. be nice to yerself. but the song is by, most notable,
the allman brothers. it is the absolute most fucking bestest coolest ever
cover done by the girls, im sure of it. and i'd give my firstborn to hear
it live in concert (the only version of it ive ever been able to wrangle
is on shades of indigo)<br>
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well i'm sitting here reading posts about "mystery" how the words mean so
much and pretty much drowning in my own misery thinking about how the words
reflect and describe my life and a relationship with a certain person.  so,
to get this out of my mind let me just type this. . .(i hope i'm using these
ellipses right!)

"standing at opposite poles, equal partners in a mystery" is the lyric that
keeps these tears running down my face.  our situation was a little odd b/c
she was a person in somewhat of a position of authority over me, hence the
opposite poles part.  this was the song that really got the girls close to my
heart(and the wood song).   however, i haven't listened to that song in
months b/c it's jsut a reminder of something i have to forget, which is
almost one of the hardest things i've ever had to do. now i can find solace
in many of their lyrics.

just wondering if anybody would care to share other meanings, favs, ect.  i
know we've already done this but with so many new listees why not do it
again!!!  :)

the heart and the mind on a parallel course, never the two shall meet. . .
:)
tina

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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 21:34:58 -0400
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ok, one more time i am home now and after reading all the email about the
top 5 and cover thing, i had to add more to the covers. i would love to hear
amy do bob seager's "turn the page" oooooh that would be awesome. (yes, i
was an eighties child) and i would love to hear emily do areatha franklin's
"you make me feel like a natural woman"

and man i can tell that college is back in session, welcome back guys and
gals, it is great to see the list back to it's wonderfully active self.

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well,

i dont think that being specific about what one puts into ones body is a bad
thing.  why should they treat their bodies any different than the way that
they treat the world around them i think that it shows them to be very
health and earth conscious people not picky in the least. if you think about
it it goes right along with their entire way of life....

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oooh...a chance to talk about lyrics and their meanings!  a lit. majors dream
come true....

my thoughts on the lyrics:

"love's recovery--"

"oh how i wish i was a trinity, so if i lost a part of me, i'd still have two
of the same to life...but nobody gets a life-time rehearsal, as specks of
dust, we're universal, to let this love survive could be the greatest gift
that we could give."

this song has been special to me for the past 8 years--i used it as the close
to my student directed one-act in college, and since the college was phasing
out our theatre dept. (and the entire dept. was gaga over the girls), these
words illustrated the importance of a trinity of friends.  and, the rehearsal
mention didn't hurt, either, me being the theatre nut that i am.  it seems to
me that the song is touting holding onto different parts of ourselves--and,
wishing for more of ourselves to give.

another one of my fave's:

"you and me of the ten thousand wars--"

"i see my eyes in your eyes in my eyes--still waters...after the battles and
we're still around what once was up in the air has settled down--let the
silence...a moment of peace is worth every war behind us."

my best friend and i love to argue--but, even when we are arguing over some
stupid point, we both know that we have the same wishes and love at heart.
and, that no matter how many battles we are fighting, we are not alone--and
that moment of peace is worth the battles we have fought--these battles keep
us strong.

i'll limit the comments to these for now...i could go on all night!

claudia

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>and 36 towels?  how many people were in the band that day? at least we know
>they're clean...no matter how many times in a row amy wears an outfit:)

do i hear an amy clothes drive in the works????? i would be willing to
crochet her a vest to accessories...maybe one to match the afghan i made her
for christmas and sent to the management agency back in december.....hmmmmm
i wonder.....

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peace love & indigo light
beccie lyon

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><< << fresh sliced carrots (lots) >>
>
> hmmm...  they must have excellent vision! :o)
>
> personally, i don't know how they and the band could find time between
3:30
> and the time they leave the venue that night to eat all of that stuff.
maybe
> they take it on the bus to tide them over 'til the next day!
>
> peace!
>
> joan >>
>
>>
>pax, celeste:)
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well, beside myself and the terrible harmonies i sing in my car, the lost
indigo girl, toss up here too, between joan biaz (yes i know i misspelled it
sue me) and danielle howell.....

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>i was walking about last night and i started thinking about the
beatles.(i'm
>still not sure why) but there's always someone claiming to be the 5th
beatle. so
>i started thinking, "who could be the 3rd indigo girl?" in other words, if
they
>were originally a trio who would have fit in perfectly? in my opinion it's
a
>toss up between brenda weiler (she is from fargo and is totally
awesome,esp. in
>concert, check her out at www.barkingdogrecords.com ) or mama cass (i know
she's
>gone but what trio they could have made). so what's everyone else's
thoughts?
>
>oh and my top five live:
>1: kid fears (oh the luscious harmonies)
>2: galileo
>3: ctf (because i wouldn't feel complete w/o hearing it)
>4: you left it up to me
>5: a cover of me and bobby mcgee (i don't think they've ever done it but
i'd
>love to hear them)
>
>mach' spab y'all,
>josh
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sleepy... should... not... be... posting... rubbish... can't... help...
self... use... dotty... things... because... that's... how... i... talk...
always... trailing... off... but... not... normally... this... bad... deal.

riders:
there's always the story of aerosmith or some similar band who in their
rider asked for a large bowl of m+ms with the brown ones taken out.

some saw this as a sign of excess, but apparently all they had to do was
look in the m+m bowl, if there were no brown ones they could rest easy that
everything else had been taken care of.

the lost indigo girl:
obviously joan baez and mary chapin carpenter 'cause they sang together as
the four voices in harmony, but otherwise:

me. because it would be funny.

and on to other nonsense...

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abi's page!!! http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/abi/abi.html
this week, neil 'as been mostly groovin' to:
va - the gram parsons' tribute (gram rules!), roxette 'have a nice day'
(pure pop for narrow people), julie miller 'broken things', the everly
brothers reunion concert
song o' the week simon & garfunkel 'cecilia' (bangin' bottles mix)

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i too was wondering and at my new job, i get to listen to my cd's all day
long (with my headphones of course, but hey, i like it better like that no
one bothers me with office gossip, and i get to impress my boss with my
devotion to my work....(tee hee) and loose myself in the music at the same
time. any way, i took so with me toddy and listened to wood song in earnest,
i have to admit, i cried ( and for this died in the wool fem, it did
terrible things to my eye make up) emily really knows how to reach into the
sweetest part of my soul and pull those emotions right out of me and this
one really did the trick. of course my co workers kept staring at me while i
was singing along to the music that they could not hear, but i was just lost
in thought. thanks for mentioning it.

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from: hartley, diane <dhartley@winstar.com>
to: indigo-girls@netspace.org <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
date: thursday, august 26, 1999 2:47 pm
subject: fantasy set list


>ok, here's my fantasy:
>
>1.  the wood song
>2.  blood and fire
>3.  don't give that girl a gun
>4.  you left it up to me
>5.  nashville
>cover:  melissa
>
>that's just at this moment...it appears to change with my moods.
>
>how about another thread...why the wood song?  it seems to have touched
>nearly everyone, but it's not one of their "big" songs (ctf, galileo, etc.)
>my reason is that it's such a deep song with so many potential meanings -
in
>other words, it probably can be interpreted differently by almost
>everyone...i've probably said "no one gets to miss the storm of what will
be
>just holding on for the ride..." about a thousand times.  it's just so true
>and powerful...
>
>thank you,
>
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>general manager
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date:         thu, 26 aug 1999 22:53:06 -0400
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just wanted to say thank for putting up with my multiple posts tonight,
while i caught up on my email. also, i wanted to say a big thanks to all of
you who have been sending good wishes and prayers my way while i have been
out of work. and for putting up with my midnight ramblings too. you guys
have really helped to pull me through this rough period and have made me
smile when i thought i couldn't anymore.  i love you all, take care guys and
galls and keep posting, i love the list activity!!!!!!!

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after reading all the wonderful posts on other female bands, bands, and ig
openers...i'm wondering if anyone on the list is a k's choice fan.

the first time i saw the girls, k's choice opened for them. i fell in love
with their music.

my fave being, "my heart."

any other fans out there?

jus' curious...

claudia

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for random and superfluous forwarding to any and all interested listservs
(arjuna, send this to your list? i lost the address), musicians, ani freaks,
andy freaks, or just any freaks who'd like some ear candy:

hey guys.  (much self-flagellation for the cross-posts.)
the big guy behind the curtain at the offices of gabriel unger "call us
guam" artist mgmt wanted this info thrown into some appreciative hands, so
i'm volleying it your way.  you appreciate, no?
if you're in the area, trot along over and see andy shake his independent
little tailfeather.  i'll be expecting a full concert report.

-i'm not sure who the "jess" referred to below is.  perhaps jess klein, one
of the stellar voices on the verge.  i'll find out.


jilly "i'm liking quotated nicknames today" c.

-----------begin forwarded message here------------

we're writing to invite you all to a party!  andy stochansky, ani
difranco's side-kick and drummer for seven years, has gone out on his
own!  he's doing a couple of shows and we're trying to spread the word! the
reviews from his live shows have been incredible and is a must see!!

on wednesday, september 1, andy is playing an all ages show at milestones in
rochester new york.  he hits the stage at 8:00pm (sharp)for one set.  if
you're around we'd love to see you there!

on thursday, september 2, andy is having his cd release party for his new cd
"radio fusebox" at wetlands in new york where he hits the stage at 9:30.
come!  bring your friends!

if you want more info on andy, his music, and his upcoming tour dates
(including some shows where he and jess may join forces!), check out his
website at http://freespeech.org/andystochansky/index_temp.html or e-mail us
at popsixty@aol.com

thanks again and hope to see you all soon!
lisa


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after careful consideration and reading what ya'll have posted already, my
set list is (i feel so dramatic today... could be cuz i worked for 24 hours
straight yesterday taking 16 kids with emotional and behavior problems
camping in the woods and then the rains came and we had to evacuate.....)
anyway, here it is:
   carry me away
   world falls
   hand me downs
   strange fire
   wood song
and for my cover,
   summer highland falls by billy joel

and now fer my ?... all the concerts i have gone to have had seats available
the day of the concert.  good seats, too.  waterloo had 5th row still
available at 7 pm.  so is it worth it to order tix on the opening day of sale
or should i wait until i get there?  if i do order tix, should i get the best
i can or just get whatever and try to upgrade when i get there?  and is it
better to go through the venue or through ticket master?  just wondering what
you guys do to get right up front (and preferably amy side, although if you
are way far over on emily side you get a great view when amy turns around and
dances :o)....
off to bed...
the other jill

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this (msg at the bottom of this one) was posted to the other ig list and i
thought maybe it would be fun to see just how far we reach across the world
here on the list... lexington, ky here......any other ky people out there?
email me. maybe a list meet can be arranged, or a road trip to one of the tn
dates????
i promise i am going to bed soon guys....i swear it....

read on, and it will make sense i promise

>>from: "australian breakers army" <breakers4eva@hotmail.com>
>>
>>hey everyone!
>>
>>i'm new and was just wondering where everyone is from. i assume that most
>>of you are american. fyi i'm from adelaide, australia where not to many
people
>>have heard of the girls which is there loss, but i am trying to change
that.
>>and does anyone know the release date of thier new cd?
>>
>>cool bananas
>>
>>idgie
>>
>>lucy and kelly forever!
>>breakers rocks!
>>
>>lucy and kelly 4 eva!
>>   save breakers!


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in a message dated 8/26/99 9:06:55 am est, murphyslaw77@netscape.net writes:

<< all i have to say, for those of you who may not have
heard it, is that amy and emily make animal noises during the song. >>

ok. where can i find this? everywhere i go, i look for it, and nowhere i go
has it. could someone gimme a copy? i'll be your bestest friend:) there's not
really a point to making a tape of 1 song, so i'll settle for it tacked onto
another boot:) if you want, i can trade, that's not a problem either. or you
can just tell me where to get it myself:)

-celeste (who is now substituting smiley faces for ellipses)

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huh???? did i skim too quickly what song???

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>in a message dated 8/26/99 9:06:55 am est, murphyslaw77@netscape.net
writes:
>
><< all i have to say, for those of you who may not have
> heard it, is that amy and emily make animal noises during the song. >>
>
>ok. where can i find this? everywhere i go, i look for it, and nowhere i go
>has it. could someone gimme a copy? i'll be your bestest friend:) there's
not
>really a point to making a tape of 1 song, so i'll settle for it tacked
onto
>another boot:) if you want, i can trade, that's not a problem either. or
you
>can just tell me where to get it myself:)
>
>-celeste (who is now substituting smiley faces for ellipses)
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and even more exclamation points.
!

>2)erin mckeown and rose polenzani (sorry if i spelled either wrong) will be
date: tue, 31 aug 1999 12:51:03 +0000
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>at the iota club in arlington, va this fall. its a great little  club, nice
>acoustics, and has a local microbrew on tap that is worth the drive for
>that
>alone. :)

sarah, you spelled them perfectly.
erin and rose, whatta doubleheader.  you'll laugh, you'll cry, it'll be
better than cats.  you'll want to see them again and again!

okay.  actually, the two of them have really great on-stage chemistry.
they're such weirdasses of the acoustic realm (don't quote me on that or
it'll wind up on the voices' webpage someday).
nobody gets rose to shake her groove thing like erin.
and rose's piggytails are such a nice complement to erin's zippy shoes.  all
bets are on for this show, guys.  now's the time to crack out the cash
stores, gas up the edsel, and hit the road for virginny.
besides that, i'll be there.
so who's coming?

mckeown and rosie
@ the iota, arlingon va.
sunday 3 oct 99
(i don't know what *time*-- i'll find out)
tickets for peanuts.
okay, tickets for $5.
call 703/522-8340 for info


>7) anybody want to try  playing "six degrees of stiperation"
i believe it was the now-long-gone listee chee who told me a little tale of
a family wedding.  she was sitting at the bar with a guy.  midway into the
conversation, he looks past her at someone sitting behind, and says, "hey,
who's the guy with the eyeliner?"
chee turns around.
uh-huh.

and my friend alma knows him (and the girls) through a local refugee aid
organization.  when we play what i did on my summer vacation, she gets to
hear about my slave labor to the borders books man, while i get to hear all
about the lunches she had with "mike."  christ.

and on my really good days
they swell to the size of
small dogs,

*j

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hey y'all - here's my top 5...in no specific order...


1.   crazy game!!!  (cuz amy will dance.  ok not only
that - but i really dig the song...that emily can
really write!)

2.  fugative  (bc it rocks).

3.  nashville  (bc i used to never listen to it - and
now i do).

4.  world falls   (cuz 'this world falls on me -
dreams of immortality...')...

5.  wild wild party in the loquat tree (cuz it's a
camp song...or at least it could be - and camp is
cool...camping is cool).


+1   blue eyed girl...ok i mean brown eyed girl - but
i would want them to say blue instead...*duh*  i know
i know...

++  respect  cuz it rocks and they would do it
justice.

+++  im with josh...me and bobby mcgee...cuz it would
rock.

ok so theres my picks i guess...phew...*sweating* that
was tough!

rock on, yall...
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hey y'all -

i was wondering if y'all would help me out...ok here's
the thing...i'm never really into my bday and what
takes place...but well ok here it goes...my birthday
is october 29 - (incidentally, it's going to be my
golden bday...meaning my birhtdate equals how old i
am...ie 10/*29*...i am going to be 29 years old...) -
ok anyway.  knowwhatimean...?

anyhoo - i would *love* to see ig on or around my
bday...that would just be the *best*!!!  if anyone
hears of any concerts...please let me know...it would
be so appreciated...and if ig arent playing *on*
10/29...if you know of others (rose...etc) who *are*
playing...pls let me know...i just want to have a
memorable/relaxing bday...enjoying some good music!
*grin*  thanks so much...

xo
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er.  i'll be at work at 10am 8/28.
oh, did i neglect to mention i'll also be in ohio,
so standing in line at the box office is out.
ah.  and without a functioning credit card to speak of,
so charging-by-phone is a no go as well.

i nnneed a pair of 10am tickets.  you know what i mean.
can anybody help?

ack.
jill


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<< there's always the story of aerosmith or some similar band who in their
rider asked for a large bowl of m+ms with the brown ones taken out. >>

that would be van halen!   and, if they found any brown m&ms in the bowl,
they would trash the dressing room that night.  i once read that during the
1984 tour (i think), they had a sign on their dressing room door that said
something like "not allowed beyond this point:  virgins, journey fans, [and
something else i can't remember]"

ah, rock and roll excess... <g>

peace!

joan :-d

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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list but is more appropriate
for here instead.  please direct replies to the original
sender at sandra_connolly@hotmail.com, not to me - thanks...

-sherlyn

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>from: "sandra connolly" <sandra_connolly@hotmail.com>
>subject: toronto dates?
>date: fri, 27 aug 1999 01:04:00 edt
>
>so what happens when you go to lilith fair with someone who is chronically
>late?  yes, you miss part of the indigo girls show.  that's all we truly
>cared about seeing too.
>
>with all these dates being posted (and i checked the website too), do we
>know if there's any possibility of a southern ontario date?
>
>i'm willing to drive to new york state if necessary, but i'd rather see them
>nearby.
>
>thanks for any info!
>
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>from: susan <snapper@bulloch.com>
>
>stereo popsicle.  anyone heard of them?  please describe if so .

they are awesome; my favorite local band nowadays.  stereo popsicle is a
rock-and-soul band fronted by lead singer trina meade, who's sort of a mix
between tina turner and chaka khan.  the lead guitarist (don't know his name)
did a lot of work on madonna's last album.  emily did a guest vocal on an
acoustic version of a song called "jenny" on their debut cd, but that's not
typical of their sound.  this band is loud and powerful.  trina has a big voice.
they have the potential to be quite major.

ron
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i think a cover of guns 'n' roses "patience" would be awesome.  okay, i
went through a heavy metal phase a few years ago, so sue me.  i sitll think
axl rose is one of the most talented performers ever.  too bad he's such a
reprehensible person.
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lately, this has been a favorite of mine, from "you & me of the 10,000 wars"

"oh the dissatisfied with the satisfied"

to me this means not being happy in a perfectly wonderful situation because
it's just not exciting enough.  i feel this way sometimes.
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for those of you who like ani and live in the dc area, according to the
weekend section of the post, ani will be appearing at the 9:30 club on oct
6th...buy tickets early...this will sell out quick...however i won't be going
because when i saw the indigo girls there last year, it was a nightmare,
packed with drunken, smoking insane people...there is just something not
quite right about being crammed in a club with a capacity of 600 people and
there are 900 people in there...  :)

anyway...just thought i'd throw the info out there...

-heather

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i've always like "not an addict".   i saw k's choice at lilith on tuesday.
they were awesome.
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is this song "jenny" about a girl who is abused by her father?  part of it
got tacked on to the end of a boot i was listening to yesterday and i loved
it!

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hey tina....

sorry, sweetie, that you're havin' such a rough time... here are a few of the
lyrics that *i* lean on when things get rough:


"give me hope, give me hope, that emptiness brings fullness, and loss of love
brings wholeness to us all."

"if i wanna sail, i need my life to be breezier. i say, please god, or someone,
make it easier!"

sometimes the incredibly descriptive stuff helps, too:

"i crave inertia every move made so i can stop whatever this madness is in me
spinning like a top, on a bed of anxiety
over a deep dark drop...down into nothingness....into withoutyouness."

"to ease my pain i took a pen and paper, incarnate came the bleeding.  send it
back before the public eye perverts
it in the reading.  burn all  the letters..."

and, the best blessing:

"and i wish her (you!) insight, to battle love's blindness, strength from the
milk of human kindness, a safe place for all the
pieces that scatter; learn to pretend there's more than love that matters."


and remember, honey, to sing!  loud, strong... even off-key... it doesn't
matter. just sing.  it helps.

hope things get a little easier....

-- deb (loba)

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rose polenzani and erin mckeon are going to be at the iota in arlington on
oct 3rd


-heather
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>graham ames wrote:
>
>based on their first cd, i'd probably nominate michael stipe as the
>third indigo girl.
>


that made me totally giggle!  but isn't michelle malone the official
unofficial third indigo girl?  personally, i would vote for myself, but i'm
not famous, so i guess that will never happen.  realistically, i'd vote for
rose polenzani as the "lost" ig.  have you heard her with a&e?  wowie zowie!

okay, so maybe the "wowie zowie" was too much, but i just woke up!!!

huggies, not pampers,
theresa

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1. love will come to you
2. blood and fire
3. wood song
4. play it again sam
5. crazy game

cover: romeo & juliet

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in a message dated 8/26/99 10:03:22 am eastern daylight time,
subcityii@aol.com writes:

<< it will be several months before ray has time to focus on the project, as
she
and saliers prepare to begin promoting ''come on down social.' >>


what?  i thought the album was called com on now social.  was this a mistype
or is my brain going crazy....

cloudy

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on thu, 26 aug 1999, dawn m. kivisto wrote:

> tom's diner was released several years ago (don't ask me how many, i don't
> know) as a cover.  it was remixed by a couple of british dj's calling
> themselves dna.  i have no idea where to find it, but i remember it cuz a
> friend of mine was looking for it for her and her wife's anniversary, and we
> had to ask the counter help at the record store about it.

well, if the person who originally wanted this will e-mail me, i've got a
cassette single of this that i'm willing to part with.  in the summer of
90, i went to england on a girl scout-girl guide exchange thingy that our
troop set up with a bunch there.  this song was very big over there when i
was there, and i had that damn "dodododo do do dodo" part in my head for
like three months before they released the single in the us.

anyway, back to your regularly scheduled igc...

kelly

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oh my god!!!  that is so funny!  my gf susan was just saying the same thing
the other day - about patience being a great choice for ig - it would be
hilarious, but good i'm sure - can't ya just hear amy whistling the intro?

-tara

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> sent: friday, august 27, 1999 8:58 am
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>
> i think a cover of guns 'n' roses "patience" would be awesome.  okay, i
> went through a heavy metal phase a few years ago, so sue me.  i sitll
> think
> axl rose is one of the most talented performers ever.  too bad he's such a
> reprehensible person.
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re: axl rose, sheryl said:
>too bad he's such a reprehensible person.

too bad he shares that uncanny ability of sheryl crow's
to sound like a doggie squeaky chew toy.

earplugs, ma'am?
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my top 5:

1. crazy game
2. ain't no way to treat a friend
3. you left it up to me
4. high horse
5. keeper of my heart

and the cover of tangled up in blue

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on fri, 27 aug 1999, jilly c wrote:

> re: axl rose, sheryl said:
> >too bad he's such a reprehensible person.
>
> too bad he shares that uncanny ability of sheryl crow's
> to sound like a doggie squeaky chew toy.

   actually, the most acurate description of axl's voice i ever heard was
"something akin to a catfight in a blender."
   and yet, he is (was?) a very dynamic performer, at least when he's not
storming off the stage because people cheered for the opening act. still,
aerosmith pretty much fulfills the vocal-screech quota for me.

   darius

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i know of a *lot* of ig fans who are also big aerosmith fans.  why the
correlation i wonder?  anyone want to fathom a guess?

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> still,
> aerosmith pretty much fulfills the vocal-screech quota for me.
>
>    darius
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on fri, 27 aug 1999, lane, tara e. wrote:

> i know of a *lot* of ig fans who are also big aerosmith fans.  why the
> correlation i wonder?  anyone want to fathom a guess?

   "janie's got a gun"?

   kidding, kidding!!!  :)

   darius

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in a message dated 8/27/99 11:14:18 am, dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu writes:

>   actually, the most acurate description of axl's voice i ever heard was
>"something akin to a catfight in a blender."
>   and yet, he is (was?) a very dynamic performer, at least when he's not
>storming off the stage because people cheered for the opening act.

any "really old" list members like me remember a thread years ago that
compared amy to axl, and theorized that hey, maybe they're the same person
(you've never seen them together have you?)?  it was just goofy stuff, like
that they have the same initials and same number of letters in their first
name and both look hot in leather, but it was really funny.  another oldie
but goodie i wish i had saved.

heidi d. (reminscing from back in the stephen smith list days)

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ok - i think i've finally recovered from the jet lag, so i'm able to
briefly describe what i did on my vacation - for anybody who wants more,
send me a private e-m, and i'll see what i can do... (yes jill - that's
3 - count 'em...)

1. went to nff (fav. acts - ellis paul (frst opinion - looks a bit like
bono :) , and who has some really great songs), ladysmith black mambazo
(who were great fun - teaching the whole crowd to speak zulu, putting a
friend of mine into a trance-like state while she was copying their hand
movements. beautiful songs to listen to on a summer afternoon), steve
earle (who i'd never heard before, but whose music i love. apparently
his musical style changed recently - anybody got anymore info on that?)
suzanne vega (wow - it's amazing the amount of people who seem to know
the 'doo - doo - doo' bits of tom diner...) and, of course ig (i love
trouble, go has started to grow on me, faye tucker is amazingly
powerful, and love's recovery almost made me break down in tears... oh
yeah - and isn't sulli (who i basked in the glow of...) the genetic
cross breeding of amy and emily? think about it - combine the hairstyles
of amy and emily... ;) )

oh, and hi to kelly (who seemed to sit quite happily throughout the
flood that was the morning weather), kathleen, lisa (who is wonderful, a
complete goddess who we should all praise from now until the end of time
- and yes, i have told her this... have you seen the size of her ego
recently? ;)... oh, but never, ever sit in a car that she is
driving...), and the short, dark haired lady who stood by me for the
entire ig set - i'm afraid i can't remember your name (that's my memory
for you...), so could you please send me your e-mail addy?!? oh, and
btw, before you hear it from anybody else, yes, we had a bit of rain
during the morning...

2. saw pamela means, aurisha and bif naked at "tt and the bears" in
cambridge, boston. aurisha are pretty cool - can't really think of a way
to describe their music. bif naked - ugh..... i don't know, i just don't
like their style of music, i suppose. pamela means is very cool though -
i managed to talk to her a bit before she went on stage, and she was
very nervous - this was the first rock gig she'd played (before she'd
just played coffee houses and stuff), but she played a great set, and
the cd is currently residing in my collection.

3. saw a production of much ado about nothing done by the harvard
university theatre group - really good, great performances all round...

4. saw a group called mandara play at the nyourican poetry cafe in nyc -
they played a lot of ghanian / african music, plus some of their own
compositions - lovely and relaxing, with a very wide range of
instruments.

5. saw the dalai lama speak in central park - very inspiring, and
extremely crowded - i think the entire population of inner manhattan
were present in central park during that one day. made me wonder if the
dalai lama ever gets overawed by the amount of people who want to see
him talk.

6. saw the ny liberty play twice at madison square garden - that's it,
i'm now an official fan...

oh, and i went to see the blair witch project, psycho (original
version), the sixth sense, eyes wide shut, mickey blue eyes, the thomas
crown affair and teaching mrs tingle. i also went to the mit museum, the
madison square garden tour, the statue of liberty, the new england
aquarium, the empire state building, and i was part of the audience for
the david letterman show. and i brought more cd's than even i thought i
would...

whoops, i did promise to make this brief --- sorry... if you want more
details about anything, just tell me...

oh, and my top 5 :

1. love will come to you.
2. wood song.
3. get out the map.
4. shame on you.
5. love's recovery.

cover : blister in the sun.

oh, and i saw moxy fruvous play live - very funny.... and i will neer,
ever fly american eagle or american airlines again...

john.

oh, and just a brief idea - how about trying to make a collective boot
of the final top 20 dream setlist? maybe we could figure out someway of
doing this...
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at 12:30 pm 08/27/99 , heidid4660@aol.com wrote:
>heidi d. (reminscing from back in the stephen smith list days)

stephen spencer.  but certainly a list era worth reminiscing over!  that
was back in the day when the list was quiet over the summer, because
students couldn't access the internet from home. :-)

btw, stephen still does good work with alan rowoth (the folk_music list) on
folkmusic.org, and i think helps a bit with the catie curtis list as well.

and as long as i've unleashed that bit of nigc, i might as well say that
the new curtis cd is *outstanding*!

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i know this is really long but i have been sitting here reading it over
continuously for the last half an hour and couldnt help but pass it on. i'd
love to know what others who read this opinions are!

-bri

anna quindlen's commencement speech
> >> mount holyoke college
> >> may 23, 1999
> >>
> >> i look at all of you today and i cannot help but see
> >> myself 25 years ago, at my own barnard commencement. i
> >> sometimes seem, in my mind, to have as much in common
> >> with that girl as i do with any stranger i might pass
> >> in the doorway of a starbucks or in the aisle of an
> >> airplane. i cannot remember what she wore, or how she
> >> felt that day. but i can tell you this about her
> >> without question: she was perfect.
> >>
> >> let me be very clear what i mean by that. i mean that
> >> i got up every day and tried to be perfect in every
> >> possible way. if there was a test to be had, i had
> >> studied for it; if there was a paper to be written, it
> >> was done. i smiled at everyone in the dorm hallways,
> >> because it was important to be friendly, and i made
> >> fun of them behind their backs because it was
> >> important to be witty.  and i worked as a residence
> >> counselor and sat on housing council and if anyone had
> >> ever stopped and asked me why i did those things-well,
> >> i'm not sure what i would have said. but i can tell
> >> you today that i did them to be perfect, in every
> >> possible way.
> >>
> >> being perfect was hard work, and the hell of it was,
> >> the rules of it changed.  so that while i arrived at
> >> college in 1970 with a trunk full of perfect pleated
> >> kilts and perfect monogrammed sweaters, by christmas
> >> vacation i had another perfect uniform: overalls,
> >> turtlenecks, doc martens, and the perfect new york
> >> city barnard college affect, part hyperintellectual,
> >> part ennui. this was very hard work indeed. i had read
> >> neither sartre nor sappho, and the closest i ever come
> >> to being bored and above it all is falling asleep.
> >> and, finally, it was harder to become perfect because
> >> i realized, at barnard, that i was not the smartest
> >> girl in the world. and eventually being perfect day
> >> after day, year after year, became like always
> >> carrying a backpack filled with bricks on my back. and
> >> oh, how i secretly longed to lay my burden down.
> >>
> >> so what i wanted to say to you today is this: if this
> >> sounds, in any way, familiar to you, if you have been
> >> trying to be perfect in one way or another, too, then
> >> make today, when for a moment there are no more grades
> >> to be gotten, classmates to be met, terrain to be
> >> scouted, positioning to be arranged-make today the day
> >> to put down the backpack. trying to be perfect may be
> >> sort of inevitable for people like us, who are smart
> >> and ambitious and interested in the world and in its
> >> good opinion. but at one level it's too hard, and at
> >> another, it's too cheap and easy. because it really

> >> requires you mainly to read the zeitgeist of wherever
> >> and whenever you happen to be, and to assume the masks
> >> necessary to be the best of whatever the zeitgeist
> >> dictates, or requires.  those requirements shapeshift,
> >> sure, but when you're clever you can read them, and do
> >> the imitation required.
> >>
> >> but nothing important, or meaningful, or beautiful, or
> >> interesting, or great ever came out of imitations. the
> >> thing that is really hard, and really amazing, is
> >> giving up on being perfect and beginning the work of
> >> becoming yourself.
> >>
> >> more difficult, because there is no zeitgeist to read,
> >> no template to follow, no masks to wear. set aside
> >> what your friends expect, what your parents demand,
> >> what your acquaintances require. set aside the
> >> messages this culture sends, through its advertising,
> >> its entertainment, its disdain and its disapproval,
> >> about how you should behave.
> >>
> >> set aside the old traditional notion of female as
> >> nurturer and male as leader; set aside, too, the new
> >> traditional notions of female as superwoman and male
> >> as oppressor. begin with that most terrifying of all
> >> things, a clean slate.  and then look, every day, at
> >> the choices you are making and when you ask yourself
> >> why you are making them, find this answer: for me, for
> >> me. because they are who and what i am, and mean to
> >> be.
> >>
> >> this is the hard work of your life in the world, to
> >> make it all up as you go along, to acknowledge the
> >> introvert, the clown, the artist, the reserved, the
> >> distraught, the goofball, the thinker. you will have
> >> to bend all your will not to march to the music that
> >> all of those great "theys" out there pipe on their
> >> flutes. they want you to go to professional school, to
> >> wear khakis, to pierce your navel, to bare your soul.
> >> these are the fashionable ways.  the music is tinny,
> >> if you listen close enough. look inside. that way lays
> >> dancing to the melodies spun out by your own heart.
> >> this is a symphony.  all the rest are jingles.
> >>
> >> this will always be your struggle whether you are
> >> twenty-one or fifty-one. i know this from experience.
> >> when i quit the new york times to be a fulltime
> >> mother, the voices of the world said that i was nuts.
> >> when i quit it again to be a fulltime novelist, they
> >> said i was nuts again. but i am not nuts.  i am happy.
> >> i am successful on my own terms. because if your
> >> success is not on your own terms, if it looks good to
> >> the world but does not feel good in your  heart, it is
> >> not success at all. remember the words of lily tomlin:
> >> if you win the rat race, you're still a rat.
> >>
> >> look at your fingers. hold them in front of your face.
> >> each one is crowned by an abstract design that is
> >> completely different than those of anyone in this
> >> crowd, in this country, in this world. they are a
> >> metaphor for you.  each of you are as different as
> >> your fingerprints. why in the world should you march
> >> to any lockstep?  the lockstep is easier, but here is
> >> why you cannot march to it. because nothing great or
> >> even good ever came of it. when young writers write to
> >> me about following in the footsteps of those of us who
> >> string together nouns and verbs for a living, i tell
> >> them this: every story has already been told. once
> >> you've read anna karenina, bleak house, the sound and
> >> the fury, to kill a mockingbird and a wrinkle in time,
> >> you understand that there is really no reason to ever
> >> write another novel. except that each writer brings to
> >> the table, if she will let herself, something that no
> >> one else in the history of time has ever had.  and
> >> that is herself, her own personality, her own voice.
> >> if she is doing faulkner imitations, she can stay
> >> home. if she is giving readers what she thinks they
> >> want instead of what she is, she should stop typing.
> >> but if her books reflect her character, who she really
> >> is, than she is giving them a new and wonderful gift.
> >> giving it to herself, too.
> >>
> >> and that is true of music and art and teaching and
> >> medicine. someone sent me a tee shirt not long ago
> >> that read "well behaved women don't make history."
> >> they don't make good lawyers, either, or doctors or
> >> businesswoman.  imitations are redundant. yourself is
> >> what is wanted.
> >>
> >> you already know this. i just need to remind you.
> >> think back. think back to first or second grade, when
> >> you could still hear the sound of your own voice in
> >> your head, when you were too young, too unformed, too
> >> fantastic to understand that you were supposed to take
> >> on the protective coloration of the expectations of
> >> those around you. think of what the writer catherine
> >> drinker bowen once wrote, more than half a century
> >> ago: "many a man who has known himself at ten forgets
> >> himself utterly between ten and thirty." many a woman,
> >> too.
> >>
> >> you are not alone in this. we parents have forgotten
> >> our way sometimes, too. i say this as the deeply
> >> committed, often flawed mother of three. when you were
> >> first born, each of you, our great glory was in
> >> thinking you absolutely distinct from every baby who
> >> had ever been born before. you were a miracle of
> >> singularity, and we knew it in every fiber of our
> >> being.  but we are only human, and being a parent is a
> >> very difficult job, more difficult than any other,
> >> because it requires the shaping of other people, which
> >> is an act of extraordinary hubris. and over the years
> >> we learned to want for you things that you did not
> >> want for yourself. we learned to want the lead in the
> >> play, the acceptance to our own college, the straight
> >> and narrow path that often leads absolutely nowhere.
> >> sometimes we wanted those things because we were
> >> convinced it would make life better, or at least
> >> easier for you.  sometimes we had a hard time
> >> distinguishing between where you ended and we began.
> >>
> >> so that another reason that you must give up on being
> >> perfect and take hold of being yourself is because
> >> sometime, in the distant future, you may want to be
> >> parents, too. and if you can bring to your children
> >> the self that you truly are, as opposed to some
> >> amalgam of manners and mannerisms, expectations and
> >> fears that you have acquired as a carpace along the
> >> way, you will give them, too, a great gift. and you
> >> will teach them by example not to be terrorized by the
> >> narrow and parsimonious expectations of the world, a
> >> world that often likes to color within the lines when
> >> a spray of paint, a scrawl of crayon, is what is truly
> >> wanted.
> >>
> >> remember yourself, from the days when you were younger
> >> and rougher and wilder, more scrawl than straight
> >> line. remember all of yourself, the flaws and faults
> >> as well as the many strengths. carl jung once said,
> >> "if people can be educated to see the lowly side their
> >> own natures, it may be hoped that they will also learn
> >> to understand and to love their fellow men better.  a
> >> little less hypocrisy and a little more tolerance
> >> toward oneself can only have good results in respect
> >> for our neighbors, for we are all too prone to
> >> transfer to our fellows the injustice and violence we
> >> inflict upon our own natures."
> >>
> >> most commencement speeches suggest you take up
> >> something or other: the challenge of the future, a
> >> vision of the twenty-first century. instead i'd like
> >> you to give up. give up the backpack. give up the
> >> nonsensical and punishing quest for perfection that
> >> dogs too many of us through too much of our lives.  it
> >> is a quest that causes us to doubt and denigrate
> >> ourselves, our true selves, our quirks and foibles and
> >> great leaps into the unknown, and that is bad enough.
> >>
> >> but this is worse: that someday, sometime, you will be
> >> somewhere, maybe on a day like today. a berm
> >> overlooking a pond in vermont. the lip of the grand
> >> canyon at sunset. and maybe something bad will have
> >> happened: you will have lost someone you loved, or
> >> failed at something you wanted to succeed at very
> >> much.  and sitting there, you will fall into the
> >> center of yourself. you will look for that core to
> >> sustain you. and if you have been perfect all your
> >> life, and have managed to meet all the expectations of
> >> your family, your friends, your community, your
> >> society, chances are excellent that there will be a
> >> black hole where your core ought to be.
> >>
> >> don't take that chance. begin to say no to the greek
> >> chorus that thinks it knows that parameters of a happy
> >> life when all it knows is the homogenization of human
> >> experience. listen to that small voice from inside
> >> you, that tells you to go another way. george eliot
> >> wrote, "it is never too late to be what you might have
> >> been." it is never too early, either. and it will make
> >> all the difference in the world. take it from someone
> >> who has left the backpack full of bricks far behind,
> >> and every day feels light as a feather.
> >>

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hey y'all ~

my favorite emily lyric:
  well, it's really an entire song. . . . language or the kiss just speaks to
me lyrically.  it's not even my favorite song, except the words get me right
here *pounds chest*.  especially: "oooohh, the fear i've known, that i might
reap the praise of strangers and end up on my own. all i've sown was a song,
but maybe i was wrong."  & "oh mercy, what i won't give to have the things
that mean the most not to be the things i miss."  the former because . . .
well, i'm *_heavily_* involved with student government and the newspaper at
my high school.  and as result, all of my peers respect me a great deal --
date: tue, 31 aug 1999 12:51:03 +0000
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put to such an extent that they don't think to be friends with me.  it's hard
to explain, but it's like being a celebrity -- no, it's like being the copy
of _ulysseus_ at the public library.  many people touch and flip through it.
only a handful of folks take out.  even fewer read the whole thing.
sometimes i wonder if i had chosen a large cirlce of friends over my
"passion" (as it were), if it wouldn't have been the better choice?...  and:
the latter lyric because most of my closest friends live out of town, and i
miss them.

my favorite amy lyric is, of course:
  "i said darkness into darkness, all the carnage of my journies makes it
harder to be living/he said, it's a long road to be forgiven..."  *or* "he
said, hold on child it's a long road, and i said, good cuz i need to be
forgiven" *or* "he said, it's a long road child and you've got to learn to
forgive."  (unless it's, "learn to forget"  as i have trouble making out what
she shouts in that version...)
   chickenman is my favorite song of all time.  indigo or otherwise.  that's
my anthem.

later ~
~ elizabeth

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hkf's,

i've updated some more onsale info:
10/08/99 washington, dc patriot center 9/12
10/16/99 amherst, ma u mass-amherst ,the mullen center 9/11
and the only 2 shows that have no onsale info. are americus, ga & albany,
ny.  please let the list know if there are any updates for those shows.
btw, i don't usually update on weekends, so please post to the list on
weekends especially.  and good luck this saturday everybody!!!  (don't wait
until 9:59am to check the phone numbers on my site either!)

and lastly, don't forget, anyone in jawga - michelle malone is playing at
eddie's attic tonight (solo) and tomorrow (w/ band) celebrating her new cd.
see ya there!  http://www.eddiesattic.com/showschedule.html

}i{

happy weekend!
-mkc
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didn't amy say that she wrote "123" for axl? i think it was on a boot i
have: she was playing solo, but kristen hall was there too, and michelle
malone. she and michelle played "i shall be released". she broke a string
and joked as she fixed it about not having had to do that in a while, since
she had aquired a guitar tech...enough description, anyone?

sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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does anyone have the lyrics for 'moment of forgiveness' ?  i checked
lifeblood but they don't have it.

thanks
lu

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>from lifeblood:

forgiveness

well i guess that i was lonely
that's why i called you on the phone
cause in a moment of forgiveness
i didn't want to be alone

and i guess that i was willing
more than i ever was before
cause in a moment of forgiveness
i come knocking at your door

baby i woke up crying last night
just to realize that you were gone
has it been two long years without you
tell me now when are you gonna come home

i guess now i'm hoping
oh that you finally understand
and in a moment of forgiveness
you reach out and take my hand

baby i woke up crying last night
just to realize that you were gone
has it been two long years without you
tell me now when are you gonna come home

and i guess that now i'm hoping
oh that you finally understand
and in a moment of forgiveness
you reach out and take my hand

words and music amy ray
as performed december 27, 1998 at eddie's attic in decatur, georgia
(unreleased)

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        for those who have been all aflutter about erin mckeown (cough
cough *jill*) and also for the folks who were discussion megan toohey
(tim?) this came form the pamela means annoucement list. she's good, too.
here you go.
        mandy

        ******

first confirmed date has been set.  feb. 5, 2000 at as220 in
providence, ri.  i know it's a little far off but both artists are
quite busy through the end of the year.  more dates are soon to come
for this split bill.


*september 3-5 cutting edge at the campfire iii @ club passim
cambridge, ma
pamela plays solo friday, sept. 3, 12:45am-1:10am and again on sunday,
sept. 5, 7:45pm to 9:10pm in the round with deb pasternak, jabe and
meghan toohey.

*monday, sept. 6 (labor day)
milky way in jamaica plain, ma
pamela means band with jason gardner on drums and rob pevitts on bass
also featuring: meghan toohey and red cord

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subject:      great lyric

"is the glass half-full or empty
i ask her as i fill it
she said it doesn't really matter
pretty soon you're bound to spill it"

ahh emily... :)

val

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hkf's

just checking to see if anyone on here is going to lilith in kansas city
(bonner springs) next week.

we are considering making the road trip from tulsa, but have not bought
tickets yet. it appears from ticket master that all that is available
right now is general admission.

i seem to remember somebody on here saying that they waited until the
last minute to buy tickets and ended up in the 7th row???  was this at
the cincy or columbus show???  (i am having a hard time remembering!)

anyway--if anyone can share advice on how this type of thing works--i
would really appreciate it.

thanks in advance for your help.

:-)

jennifer  ***listening to the latest neilycd as i type!!!***  thanks neil
and karen!!!

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hkf's--

i haven't seen any reports on yesterday's lilith performance so i will
share my $.02 and the setlist with those of you that are interested:

set list:

least complicated
three hits
get out the map w/ dixie chicks
go w/ andy of sheryl crow on guitar
galileo
faye tuckerrrrrrrrrr  :-)
love's recovery w/ sarah
rockin' in the free world w/ k's choice
closer to fine with everyone (duh)

too short!  way too short...i wanted more more more!!!

        i was at the friday night lilith performance in atlanta last month and
so i expected to hear a lot more new stuff yesterday (like they did in in
atlanta), but honestly i think for the "lilith" audience it was smart of
them to stick with mostly older stuff.  they got a great response from
the audience, i thought.

        they both looked beautiful and were full of energy.  emily wore army
green/ khaki pants and shirt, and amy had on black jeans, a red
"mechanic's" type shirt with her infamous black tank top underneath.  and
yes, amy chose to lose the red shirt and rock the free world and the
midwest in her little black tank top.  *sigh o' bliss*

        i love to watch amy perform faye tucker--she completely loses herself in
it.  last night she just belted out these primal screams that were so
awesome.  and then at the end she danced a little jig around the stage
and clapped her hands the whole time.  i loved it.

        dixie chicks invited ig to sing on stage with them for one song and a &
e seemed to have so much fun.  everyone all night kept saying how much
they liked dixie chicks.  when emily introduced dixie chicks to come and
sing with them she called them her "new favorite band" or words to that
effect.  and amy said they were going to promote the dixie chicks on
their new fall tour.  too funny.

        i like dixie chicks and was looking forward to seeing them.  they were
incredible.  natalie can sing the heck out of a song and i loved the
fiddle/banjo hoedown, but hey, i'm from texas--what can i say.
(yeeehaw!)  sheryl crow was great--her stage presence is amazing.  and
sarah was exactly the same, that voice!!  i can't wait to hear some new
stuff from her.  i had never heard any of k's choice stuff before--i
really liked them.

        i guess that's it.  it was a fun fun night.  kansas city is one of my
all-time favorite places.  after two abbreviated lilith performances, i
am so ready for a full length show with nothing but a&e.  i cannot wait
for the fall tour!

have a great weekend everyone--

jennifer

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claudia rollins <ctofine@aol.com> wrote:
i'm wondering if anyone on the list is a k's choice fan.

i absolutely love k's choice. i discovered them about 2 years ago off a lilith
sampler cd, plus from keep on rockin' in the free world. they (she) is
amazing... the lyrics rip me apart. they're great to listen to when i'm pissed
off or in a really angsty mood, or sad in the 'not so safe' sense of the
word..... glad to hear you're a fan. i'd have to say my favs are:
quiet little place,
if you're not scared,
in your room.......
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grrrly4354@aol.com wrote:
in a message dated 8/26/99 9:06:55 am est, murphyslaw77@netscape.net writes:

<< all i have to say, for those of you who may not have
heard it, is that amy and emily make animal noises during the song. >>

"ok. where can i find this? everywhere i go, i look for it, and nowhere i go
has it."

ebay, baby... ebay!!! that is, if you want the whole cd. i havent seen it sold
anywhere. i could make a copy for you.... and for beccie, i believe you were
inquiring, the song is 'wild wild party in the loquat tree' off the 'put on
your green shoes' cd.......

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  lilith fair grads here for a gig and there's a new album out sept.28

  the indigo girls love lilith fair so much, they bought the company.
  er, not really.  amy ray and emily saliers did the next best thing.
  the roots-rock veterans rounded up some of their lilith pals from last
year's tour and recorded an album, come on now social, in stores sept.28.
  the duo's lilith experience is a far cry from their 1998 tour of american
high schools.  it was supposed to give the girls a change to play their
songs and talk about their homosexuality, but not everyone was open to the
idea~~the duo were banned from playing a high school in columbia, south
carolina.  ray and saliers managed to schedule the gig in an alternate
venue, but ray says it was disheartening.
  "it was really a bummer," she says.  "i think the most disheartening
thing about it was when a parent said, 'what we're scared about is that the
kids are going to ask the girls about their lifestyle.'  it just made me
depressed that parents couldn't handle their kids asking questions.  how
can you raise a child like that?"
  despite the incident, ray says the indigo girls are hoping to do another
tour of high schools.  odd enough, ray doesn't feel the same way about
lilith fair.  while she loves the concept and is sad to see it end, she's
glad the tour is wrapping up on a high note.
  "it had a great run and i like to quit while i'm ahead.  my own
personality is like, don't drag it out and run it into the mud," she says.
"i know i'm going to be sad, but i've made such great friends."
  in fact, ray has a reminder of her fair friends.  come on now social
features past and present lilith performers, including sheryl crow,
me'shell ndegeocello, joan osborne, luscious jackson's kate schellenbach
and members of sinead o'connor's band.  crow sings back-up on gone again,
osborne adds her vocals to go, while ndegeocello plays bass on a few tunes.
the result is an eclectic disc of roots, rock, dub, reggae and world music.
  ray says without lilith, the indigo girls would not have been able to
make the album.  but she admits the two didn't set out to make it a lilith
love-in.
  "we didn't know sheryl was going to sing.  she seemed too busy but she
kept calling and saying, 'i'll do it.'" says ray.  "then joan came through."
  the indigo girls are no strangers to collaborations.  most of their
previous albums feature guest appearances by the likes of r.e.m., mary
chapin carpenter and jackson browne.
  even the duo's partnership can be considered a collaboration.  the two
don't actually write songs together, but play and sing on each other's
tunes.  saliers likes pop music while ray prefers a rawer sound.  it's been
that way since the two were teenagers.
  "we just don't enjoy writing together, "says ray, now 35.  "we've tried
co-writing a couple~~one early on in our high school days.  that was pretty
bad."
  then what keeps ray and saliers together after 20 years?
  "we like each other's music and i think the sum is greater than the
parts," she says.  "we're very different from each other as far as music
goes, but we always seem to come together on things.  that's the mystery of
it and that's what keeps me going.  it pulls me in to work with someone who
is so drastically different from me but who i love so much."
  yet ray admits she never expected her collaboration with saliers to last
two decades.
  "most people don't even stay married that long," she laughs.
  "even though we've never gone out with each other, i think this is the
signifcant relationship of our lives."

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>from: sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu>
>
>is this song "jenny" about a girl who is abused by her father?  part of it
>got tacked on to the end of a boot i was listening to yesterday and i loved
>it!


yeah, that's it.  the acoustic version isn't at all typical of stereo popsicle's
full-band sound, though.  but they do play acoustic sets at eddie's attic pretty
regularly, too.

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saw this at cnn.com today:

http://www.cnn.com/showbiz/news/9908/27/showbuzz/index.html#story3

let the legacy of lilith live, mclachlan says
shakopee, minnesota (cnn) --

lilith fair founder sarah mclachlan says she hopes other female musicians
will carry on the spirit of the festival. "if there is a legacy of lilith,
it's that other people will take up the torch," mclachlan said backstage
before a concert in shakopee, minnesota. the festival featuring female
performers is in its last week.

mclachlan says she and other performers are calling this, the show's third
season, its final one as well, because they want more free time to
concentrate on other projects and their families. "i'm in total savoring
mode," mclachlan said. "i wish i had something like this when i was
growing up."

for anyone lamenting the last lilith fair, the indigo girls' amy ray
offered a solution. "go out and hear music," she said. "go hear local
bands in your own community. it doesn't have to have the lilith name on
it, to have the spirit."

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that cd is also on cdnow.com. i bought it from them about 3 weeks ago,
along with "spirit of 73" (it won't take long - awesome awesome awesome
song - anyone know who recorded it originally?)

check around online. i think i only paid $12 for it or less, shipped.

take care,
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hkfs,

i usually lurk and answer some ?'s but i have decided
to take the intiative and make a new string here.
i'll write the ?'s w/ my answers next to them.
hopefully some of ya'll will answer them too.

1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:

swamp ophelia 1994

favorite ig road song:

least complicated(reminds me of traveling 200 miles
across 2 states to see the girls w/ my ex)

album or song you identify w/ the most:

nomads indians and saints(album)& kid fears (song)

favorite ig:

amyamyamyamyamyamy

how many time have you seen them in concert:

9 not including 4 liliths and 1 suffragete sessions

ever met them:

yes. three times. once at a meet&greet in chicago.
once at a dennys in milwaukee. and this year at lilith
fair backstage.

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in a message dated 8/27/1999 11:19:22 am central daylight time,
telane@trigon.com writes:

<< i know of a *lot* of ig fans who are also big aerosmith fans.  why the
correlation i wonder?  anyone want to fathom a guess? >>

ummm...  this may be a stretch, but...the indigo girls are girls,  and the
guys in aerosmith *look* like girls?  j/k

seriously, i love aerosmith, but i like their old stuff circa "rocks" and
"toys in the attic" more than their material of late.  the thing i like most
about their music is their groove - that band is tight.  plus, they put on a
good live show.  they are one of the only bands who are not only legend in
their own time (having been big since the early 70s), but still cranking out
hits.  as far as i'm concerned, they are the last of the real rock stars -
none of these 80s and 90s bands even come close.

i was into guns 'n roses back in the late 80s and early 90s (until they
started putting out what i felt was mediocre music, and then recorded that
charles manson song).  it is a struggle to love someone's music while you
cannot stand their attitude, behavior, or what they represent.  that's when i
just kind of focus on the music and not the lyrics.  the music is what moves
me more than anything anyway, so it works for me!  but i digress... :o)

peace!

joan :-d

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1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:

indigo girls (self-titled) 1992

favorite ig road song:

get out the map--makes me want to travel
land of canaan--gotta sing on this one!

album or song you identify w/ the most:

love will come to you & love's recovery

favorite ig:

ms. emily

how many time have you seen them in concert:

sigh--only twice so far

ever met them:

ack, ack, ack...not yet!

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in a message dated 8/27/1999 5:23:01 pm central daylight time,
clsrtofine@yahoo.com writes:

<< hopefully some of ya'll will answer them too.>>

great thread!  okay, here's mine...

1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:

swamp ophelia, june 1994 (then i went out and bought all of the other ones,
which i ended up liking better than so!) :o)

  favorite ig road song:

three-way tie between chickenman (fun), southland in the springtime
(peaceful), and down by the river (goes well with driving in the mountains
and gazing upon the horizon...aahhhh:)

album or song you identify w/ the most:

hmmm...this one is a toughie. tie between nomads and rop

   favorite ig:

i love both of them, but i'm drawn to amy


  how many time have you seen them in concert:

12, including 3 liliths (and not including when i see them on 9/24).

ever met them:

nope, and i've never tried.  i did have a close encounter w/ar outside the
bathroom at douglas corner cafe in nashville during the daemon showcase in
1997, however! :-o


peace!

joan :-d

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greetings :o)

>it won't take long - awesome awesome awesome
>song - anyone know who recorded it originally?)

ferron.
when she supported the igs in '94 they duetted (trioed?) on this song, and
it was even better than this cd. wish i had a good tape of it. the igs also
did backup vocals on a song (stand up) onone of ferron's albums (phantom
center, i believe)

and i'm still kicking myself for missing ferron last week at the tinangel
near here. only found out the day after. that'll teach me.

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va - the gram parsons' tribute (gram rules!), roxette 'have a nice day'
(pure pop for narrow people), julie miller 'broken things', the everly
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1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:
rites of passage/1994

favorite ig road song:
get out the map (of course) with shame on you & power of two close runners up

album or song you identify w/ the most:
airplane. <grin>  otherwise kid fears is an amazing song that gets to me like
very few songs can...

  favorite ig:
live- amy... on record- emily

how many time have you seen them in concert:
um.. five? times... dang... must see them more! ummm would help if they came
to miami!!

ever met them:
nope. although i've met several members of the ig family! (michelle malone,
danielle howle, michael lorant & sulli!)

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and returning with some shameless self promotion


1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:

the debut, which was the first tape the lady who is now my bride sent to me
(in '93 i think). i sent her eden burning. it's hard to say who got the
better deal :o)

favorite ig road song:

shame on you. maybe.
whatever makes me bang along on the steering wheel...

album or song you identify w/ the most:

it used to be ghost, and now it's probably mystery, but i'm a guy, and an
english guy at that, so i'm not allowed to have feelings, or at least to
express them in public so i don't really identify. i just like.

favorite ig:

they both have their moments.

how many time have you seen them in concert:

well, lessee :o)
and bear in mind england is the place to see them 'cause the venues are
small and the fans are few...
front row seats in london
front row (standing) at a venue with 300 people in portsmouth (the first so
show with the full band)
(see photos here:
http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/igs/photos/photos.htm
front row (standing) in leicester (also v. small place)
front row (standing) in london (also soundcheck)
front row (standing) in london (including onstage for ctf, see photos here:
http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/igs/photos/nig.htm )
umm... middle of an arena in detroit (my bride and i's first date proper)
front row (standing) at of cmu
radio recording session in london
*long break*
on our honeymoon in san fransisco last year @ lilith.
and the two shows in october here in philly.

how many's that?
*gloat*

i know people who went to every show on the uk tours, so i'm not that bad,
honest!
and i've heard tell of folks who have been to many, many shows. amy and
emily, for instance.

ever met them:

yes. see above. and a few other pre/aftershow hanging outs.
i also saw emily on the day she got her new car in '94 when i went to the
common pond in atlanta. she also stood behind me at the michelle mallone
(sp?) concert the same evening. but we didn't bother her on these occasions,
so i don't know if it counts or not.

ever had a meaningful, more than passing dallience with them:

no. i don't think if they knew me they'd be friends with me.

are these significant events in your life

no big deals. just ask anyone who's never heard of the igs...

there will now be a short quiz.

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ps. hello? anyone still here? go home already!

abi's page!!! http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/abi/abi.html
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va - the gram parsons' tribute (gram rules!), roxette 'have a nice day'
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*warning*
*folks easily offended don't read this*
*hope it's not too late*


><< it will be several months before ray has time to focus on the project,
as
>she
> and saliers prepare to begin promoting ''come on down social.' >>
>
>
>what?  i thought the album was called com on now social.  was this a
mistype
>or is my brain going crazy....

i thought the original title was going to be (in honour of the north english
band members):
come up now t' social

think about it.

neil hunt
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and if you think about my last name, you'll figure why i became numbed to
that word at an early age... the scars that won't heal... :o)


abi's page!!! http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/abi/abi.html
this week, neil 'as been mostly groovin' to:
va - the gram parsons' tribute (gram rules!), roxette 'have a nice day'
(pure pop for narrow people), julie miller 'broken things', the everly
brothers reunion concert
song o' the week simon & garfunkel 'cecilia' (bangin' bottles mix)

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1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:
indigo girls/circa 1990

favorite ig road song:
closer to fine - i can't tell you how much i loved it when my friend
lori found this song on the radio on our way to my first nyc pride
(june 1998) and practically everyone in the van was singing *hee*

album or song you identify w/ the most:
blood and fire and keeper of my heart (ar) and hey jesus and
fare thee well (es) all tie - they are all those heart on sleeve gut-
wrenching songs that are me.  album - strange fire...so many
memories attached to that.

favorite ig:
amy.  i love you em, i really do...but damn.  i just about fall apart
when it comes to amy.  i can moderately hold it together with em.
ask any of my friends.  and it just got worse after i saw live atul.
blood and fire.  damn.

how many time have you seen them in concert:
three times - missed them at stanhope *sighs* i need to get to
philly in a massive way, yo.

ever met them:
no...and i don't know that i will ever get the chance.  but i could hold
it together - because i always think i'm gonna freak out and then i end
up very cool.  like when i met julia fordham at the lilith back in 97, i
had been listening to her music since 88, and i loved her...and i was so
cool she wanted me to become a professional groupie so she could take
me on tour with her.  *smirks* cause i rock :)

while i'm at it - my dream setlist

* blood and fire *duh*
* fare thee well
* strange fire
* make it easier
* scooter boys

those are just off the top of my head and are subject to change in the
next few seconds :)


love,
audra


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ok, ok, ok...i do have to confess that i too love aerosmith, (and those new
gap adds with his daughter singing,(tell me does she or does she not look
just like her father)  have pulled my attention away from my computer more
often than i care to admit ) i would love to hear amy sing "pink" or "mia"
or "10 inch...record" that would be so kewl.  you know with the idea of amy
doing a solo album, i have images of miss amy really expanding her talents
and letting that inner beast loose....yes, if you cant tell, i am writing
again as well as working...tee hee....

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peace love & indigo light
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i'll bite! :)

1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:
rites of passage in 1997.  i played three hits and galileo over and over again until i ventured on to realize how great the rest of the album was.  i then proceeded to get all the other albums in less than a month.

favorite ig road song:
get out the map and chickenman seem to be the ig road songs, but i think at one time or another, i've enjoyed all of them on the road.

album or song you identify w/ the most:
the wood song, closer to fine, and it's alright all have messages that just get to me (can you tell i'm an emily person?).

favorite ig:
emily :)

how many time have you seen them in concert:
5, three of which were liliths.  they don't get out to california very often! :(

ever met them:
yep, at one of the san francisco liliths last year.  i shook their hands, and was at a complete loss for words.

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in a message dated 8/27/99 12:52:46 pm eastern daylight time,
john.bond@lineone.net writes:

<< isn't sulli (who i basked in the glow of...) the genetic
cross breeding of amy and emily? think about it - combine the hairstyles
of amy and emily... ;)  >>

    did sulli cut her hair, or am i thinking of someone else?

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i totally agree with you!  jerry rocks! bring back jerrrrrrrrrrry!!!

isabelle :)
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>the sessions went so well that the band is backing saliers and ray during
>this year's lilith fair and on the duo's own fall tour of the states.
><<<<snip>>>>
>
>hkf's,
>
>just have to put my .02 about ig touring with a band and i'll keep it
>straightforward & simple:  i want jerry!!!!
>
>and no, not jerome john garcia, but the honorary lesbian (i've seen his
>toaster) jerry marotta!!  (btw, that last honorary title was given by the
>girls, i just don't make this stuff up!)  and he gets my vote for the third
>indigo-person as well.  besides sara lee, michelle malone, or anyone else,
i
>believe that jerry is the glue that held together their live performances
>for so long.  john reynolds is a great drummer/producer, but i felt that
>jerry was more in touch with what amy & emily was trying to do up there on
>stage.  it could be that he was much more familiar to the material, so it
>would be unfair to compare him to john, but i am & just did & i think he is
>an essential piece to the puzzle:
>
>a+e+jm=ig-rocks!
>
>8-)
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        i'm all here with this thread. yee-ha.

> 1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:

        galileo, as performed a cappella by the bryn mawr night owls on
prospective students' day. i still love their rendition (although i'm
significantly less keen on their version of least complicated). went
straight to border's as soon as i got home and picked up strange fire,
which was the only ig album they had. i tend to neglect that album now
that i have all the others (and i do think it's their weakest) but it
sucked me in more than anything else i'd ever heard. had all the albums by
the next may, which is pretty amazing for somebody who had previously
bought herself a total of perhaps 10 cds in the five years prior.


> favorite ig road song:

        chickenman for night driving. sots as a whole for the day. hkf is
great for long quiet highways.


> album or song you identify w/ the most:

        the wood song for lots of bryn mawrish reasons; hkf because it
came out two months before i graduated from high school, which i actually
enjoyed very much; language or the kiss, not because it bears any real
relvance to my life aside from the constant complexity of decisions, but
because it's *so freaking amazing* that it draws me in... and i'll stop
now.


> favorite ig:

        i respect and admire them both intensely, but i'd still say emily;
i really respect her more measured, balanced opinions, even if it makes
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her less of a pure activist than amy (i.e. her reticence about coming out
becase she didn't want to be "the gay band"). also musically... again, i
admire them both, but i have more appreciation for emily's craftmanship.


> how many time have you seen them in concert:

        5 times on their own (including two consecutive nights, more than
three states apart) one lilith and one suffragette. first show was
berkeley july 5th 1997, which is probably *the* most hilarious concert on
record. a lot of it comes through on the bootleg, too.


> ever met them:

        they were signing stuff at sf lilith last year, and i gushed at
them then. nothing real, but it made me happy.

        mandy


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        if you try to touch the sun
        undermine the underground
        you're too old to care, you're too young to count
                                -amy ray, "go"

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wow, what activity lately....it's amazing what a bitty little album soon to
be released can do to people.  (btw neal, you have a durty mind....)
    ok, here's my top 5:
    joking
    crazy game
    make it easier
    shame on you
    chickenman
    and for the cover :   levon

1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:
    self titled -- 1989  after i wore out a copy of a copy that i had to
borrow from some girl who lived upstairs in my dorm

favorite ig road song:
    get out the map -- 'cuz it reminds me of going to my camp

album or song you identify w/ the most:
    that's hard: it would have to be so because every song that i thought
about was from that album.

favorite ig:
    emily - sometimes i think she lives in my head:  "how does she know
exactly how i feel?"

how many time have you seen them in concert:
    3 - 2x being this past weekend at lilith

ever met them:
    no, and unlike audra, i know that i couldn't hold it together....i would
be a stuttering idiot.

and one last comment:  i miss jerry too.    :-(

mary

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hey eveyone! i want to apologize ahead of time for the nigc...
but i thought this would be a good place to turn, in search
of some good life advice. i'll explain my situation.
i am 17 years old and i am involved with this amazing community
service/leadership/cpr/prejudice&aids awareness camp that
i have been a volunteer staff member at for the past four years.
there are 18 other staff members (im the baby!!) most of which
i consider to be my very best friends... we are a family more or
less, and keep in contact throughout the year. to make the story
as short as possible... a friend if mine (who is not involved in this
program) mentioned some concerns to a fellow staff member when
we were at a party... about me spending a lot of time doing things
that could be a danger to myself... (drinking/smoking) i got a call
tonight from someone who means the world to me (who is also the
director of camp) and she is really concerned and wants me to take
steps to get on the right track. she has been there for me through
so much that i feel like i would be letting her down by not doing so...
and i admit that it is something that could be of help to me...
the problem is that i dont have any clue as to what i am supposed
to do from here. i feel like a complete asshole but i dot know what
"taking steps to get help" in this situation really means. any advice
would be greatly appreciated.
thanks bri
ps- (tim... i know i can count on ya!! bc i always can!

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just wondering if anyone out there with tickets to one of the remaining few
lilith's would consider helping me get a copy of that free cd they're handing
out as you enter the venues.  since my venue was general admission i was too
busy sprinting to the front row to grab a disc, but for anyone willing to stop
and pick me up and extra, i'll cover postage, and throw in some of my charming
front row, very very zoomed in photos from the show.  i've got ig, dixie chicks,
and k's choice (along with various and assorted encore and guest appearance
shots), and could offer several excellent quality photos (i was literally a half
inch from the press photographers cameras) from any of those sets (along with
postage) in exchange for a copy of that cd...

thanks!
marivel

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1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:
1997 - december, right before christmas.  my best friend brough
"shaming of the sun" into work, telling me if i liked sarah & melissa,
i would love these girls.  bought it a month later.

favorite ig road song:
  get out the map - we played this on every road trip we took last
year.  just makes you want to jump in the car and drive!

album or song you identify w/ the most:
  album - depends on my mood.  right now prob. swamp ophelia.  song -
tie between mystery and the wood song. just moved to college this week,
so i am re-kindling old friendships that i left behind last year
(mystery), and trying to figure out my life, and if i am making the
right or wrong decisions, and trying to work through them (wood song)

favorite ig:
  def. amy ray.  i've always been drawn to her, from the first moment i
heard "shame on you" i knew she would be my fav.  and after newport and
that tank top!!

how many time have you seen them in concert:
  first time - lilith in camden last year.
  this year - newport, and hopefully again sometime in oct!!

ever met them:
  no.  i would like to, but only if i could have the chance to talk to
them, not a "hi, can you sign this, bye" type meeting.

  my part on the ig thread this week.

steph
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1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:
self titled and rop at the same time, almost exactly three years ago.  three
years?  oh wow, so much has changed since then... it's crazy to think that
was only three years ago... wow...

*ehem*

favorite ig road song:
shed your skin, re-mix... which i've actually never listened to while on the
road, but it seems like the best.

album or song you identify w/ the most:
   album: i guess swamp ophelia, but it's hard to say.  song: chickenman!!!

favorite ig:
  i like them both equally, but in very different ways.  both express my
innermost thoughts, just differently, and different thoughts...

how many time have you seen them in concert:
  only twice.  they hate me, really.

ever met them:
   yes!  once, at the ma state house... and i got to hug them, and tell amy i
loved chickenman, and they were both happy and, o! i still get excited by the
whole thing, and it was over a year ago.  hee hee.  obsession.

~ elizabeth

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all the concerts i have gone to have had seats available the day of the
concert.  good seats, too. (waterloo had 5th row still available at 7 pm.)
so is it worth it to order tix on the opening day of sale or should i wait
until i get there?  if i do order tix, should i get the best i can or just
get whatever and try to upgrade when i get there?  and is it better to go
through the venue or through ticket master?  just wondering what you guys do
to get right up front (and preferably amy side, although if you are way far
over on emily side you get a great view when amy turns around and dances
:o)....
off to bed...
the other jill

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hey, bri.....

thanks for posting that illuminating message.....let me tell you, it took me
a lot of years to realize many of the same points that ms. quindlen stated
so eloquently.....i concur completely.....

if life has taught me one thing, it's that being 'different' is something to
celebrate and to cherish.....to accept the gifts that creation has bestowed
upon us with apologies to no one.....

to thine own self be true....

the second thing is that true friends who accept you as you are, are the
most precious commodity life has to offer.....

of course, great music is a pretty close second......

peace, love and harmony....
tim

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>i know this is really long but i have been sitting here reading it over
>continuously for the last half an hour and couldnt help but pass it on. i'd
>love to know what others who read this opinions are!
>
>-bri

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1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:

    rites of passage (when it hit stores)

favorite ig road song:

    watershed  {off the best "road" cd !!!!}

album or song you identify w/ the most:

    walk away  {amy}       caramia  {emily}

favorite ig:

    amy

how many time have you seen them in concert:

    19

ever met them:

    not yet - but like others, i have met members of the "family"

    kristen hall, michelle malone, danielle howle, sulli

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hello indigo sister & brothers!

    ok! there i was sitting on the floor going thru the village voice (a
downtown nyc free newspaper). i turn the page & there it was! yes complete
info on the indigos appearing at the beacon in nyc!!!    my mission now is to
be late for work on monday morning on account of i'll be standing outside the
beacon waiting for there box office to open!!!   here is complete info for
the rest of you who might need it :)

the beacon theatre
74th st. & broadway
212-496-7070
oct 11 & 12 @ 8 p.m.

p.s. if your like me and taking the subway its the 1,2,3 or 9 trains to 72nd
st.

also apparently there is a new radio station here in  nyc promoting there new
cd called wfuv 90.7  (have to check that one out!)

i will try my best to maintain my composure until i actually have those tix
in my hot little had!
                    danielle in nyc

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indigo girls get 'social' on seventh set from epic
by larry flick

08/23/1999
bpi entertainment news wire

in recording their seventh epic collection, "come on now social," indigo
girls emily saliers and amy ray set out to create a communal studio
atmosphere, wherein friends and colleagues could casually drop in and
contribute bits of harmony or instrumentation.

the resulting album, due sept. 28, has a comfortably loose, organic flow
that is also remarkably cohesive. the set evolved from a jam session in
london with ghostland, a u.k. band that supported sinead o'connor during the
1998 lilith fair tour.

"the chemistry between us was incredible," says saliers, noting that the duo
wound up hiring ghostland leader john reynolds to produce "come on now
social," as well as importing his bandmates caroline dale, clare kenny, and
carol issacs to southern tracks studio in atlanta to play on the album. the
sessions went so well that the band is backing saliers and ray during this
year's lilith fair and on the duo's own fall tour of the states.

also appearing on the album are natacha atlas; luscious jackson drummer kate
schellenbach; me'shell ndegeocello; joan osborne, who provides background
vocals on the infectious, guitar-driven rocker "go"; and sheryl crow, who
makes an appearance on the folk-spiced "gone again."

"we met most of them while doing the lilith fair, which is cool. they added
to the free-flowing flavor of the album," says ray, who credits reynolds
with seamlessly integrating the guest performers into the set's musical
fabric. "he was great at ensuring that it didn't look like us saying, 'hi,
here are a few of our famous friends.' everything had to
make musical sense."

ray and saliers also acknowledge reynolds' key role in harnessing the
stylistic direction of the set, which is perhaps the duo's most diverse to
date. in addition to their signature folk/pop sound, saliers and ray dabble
in punk-infused rock, reggae, appalachian music, and blues. prime cuts
include the aggressive saliers rocker "trouble" and ray's mournful,
celtic-spiked ballad "faye tucker," which was inspired by karla faye tucker
- who on feb. 3, 1998, became the first woman to be executed by the state of
texas since the civil war.

at the core of the project are lyrical themes that saliers says are "typical
indigo girls fare. the words are always earnest and heartfelt.  we still
make social commentary, and we still sing about love. we're just
occasionally framing our words in different styles of music, and that keeps
us fresh as an act."

the future of indigo girls will, no doubt, be called into question once word
circulates that ray is planning to cut a solo album within the next year.
"it's just something i need to get out of my system," says ray, who is
eyeing the possibility of issuing the set on her own indie label, daemon
records. "it's not going to be a big deal. i just want to
make a punky little record."

the idea "sits just fine" with saliers, who took her own solo steps earlier
this year by dueting with vonda shepard on the hit "baby don't you break my
heart slow." "we love each other and support each other's desire and need to
experiment. i can't wait to hear what she comes up with, quite frankly."

it will be several months before ray has time to focus on the project, as
she and saliers prepare to begin promoting "come on down social."

ray says the duo would "happily welcome" airplay, but they no longer covet
it. "it seems like formats are so narrow now that we'd never squeeze in.
also, we're not willing to make a record that panders and exists purely for
radio. we prefer to please ourselves and our fans."

to that end, the heart of the label's marketing plan for the project is
touring. "this is an act that thrives in a live setting," says chris poppe,
vice president of marketing at the label. "there is nothing like the energy
of an indigo girls concert. the audience just adores them. needless to say,
they'll be touring well into the new year."

expectations are high for "come on now social," which follows 1997's
"shaming of the sun." the latter set entered the billboard 200 at no. 7, and
it went on to sell 2.5 million copies, according to soundscan. "this is such
an important act to us," poppe notes. "besides being a superstar entity,
they have a musical integrity that few in this industry can claim."

saliers modestly laughs at such accolades. "personally, i don't think we'll
ever be accessible enough to catch a wave of mainstream consciousness," she
says. "we've done well, but i don't view us as wildly successful."

ray agrees. "but being called a superstar act feels kinda weird. i prefer to
think of us as an act that's fortunate enough to write songs that connect
with a respectable audience."

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1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:
lets see, swamp ophilia, and it was unmmmm 1992, i had just come out and was
eating up all of the lesbian culture i could get my hands on in eastern ky.
i bought so and then bought all of the rest with in a month, (had to order
some of them).  i have been inspired and enlightened by their music ever
since.

favorite ig road song:
at the moment, go, but i listen to a road tape i made out of live stuff, and
problem child is an awesome road mix too. the old amy song, no way to treat
a friend always turns me into a speed demon....tee hee...

album or song you identify w/ the most:
it is so hard to pin point one song or album that i identify with, because
as they grow so do we and each album is like a chapter of my own life story,
but
this year it has been sots, i went through a nasty breakup in december and
every one of the songs on it that amy wrote about her breakup with cooper,
helped me through so much. my controlling abusive g/f cheated on me and
hearing the painful tourchure and pleas for forgiveness just hit the spot.
also, the wonderful hopefulness in emily's ballads gave me hope that i would
find someone new who would love and care for me as much i did for them.

favorite ig:
come on guys and gals do you really have to ask..miss amy of course.  her
passion and pain touch my soul.  i dont know if its the fact that i either i
identify with or just admire the way she stands up and fights for the things
that she believes in that draws me to her, not to mention that she is one
damn hot chicka... tee hee. but what ever it is, she inspires me. i am a
writer, and whenever i am writing, i listen to music and to amy's music i
find myself taping into the stuff that is straight from my heart and soul.
what can i say, she is my muse. (hmmm thinking about amy sitting before me
dressed in a toga, singing to me while i write.... hmmmm.......)

how many time have you seen them in concert:
only once, i have to admit it, but hell they dont come close very often, i
saw them last year in lexington with joan baez. it was awesome to hear joan
tell the audience that she was proud of her legacy (ig) and to see amy blush
and hang her head in total awe. it was amazing.

ever met them:
nope but i have hopes that one day i will. i crocheted an afghan at
christmas for amy and sent it to the management agency. i think that is as
close as i have ever gotten to it.  maybe one day.....and i hope that when i
do, i dont loose my ever lovin mind and come off like and idiotic star
struck fan. i know a girl who met amy once. she was playing softball in
atlanta, playing catcher. she said she looked up from the plate to see that
famous tattoo of amy's 2 inches in front of her face mask. she looked up and
sure enough there was miss amy. my friend, who normally is pretty level
headed, through off her face mask, dropped to one knee and began to sing
closer to fine.(i think that was what she sang, not sure at the moment) she
said amy pointed the bat at her nose and said something to the affect of "i
just want to play ball" . i hope i handle it with more dignity than that. i
think to be able to just say thank you to the girls for their inspiration
would be wonderful, no autographs or other fan stuff, just to simply say
thanks for the music. and maybe cook dinner for them...tee hee. yes i am
dreaming. oh well.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
peace love & indigo light
beccie lyon

move me, thrill me,
take me out of my existence and show me the stars.


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mtv news just did a spot on the lilith fair (how nice of them) & there
actually were clips of the indigos on it!! amy was wearing cute little black
leather sandles! (for those of you who worship the beautiful one as i do :)

ok i 'll stop now! tee hee!

danielle in nyc

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>it pulls me in to work with someone who
>is so drastically different from me but who i love so much."


>  "even though we've never gone out with each other, i think this is the
>significant relationship of our lives."


doncha just want to hug amy sometimes?  this article gave me warm fuzzies.

--theresa

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this was great!!!  very thought provoking!!

1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:
strange fire around 1988-89 ( a friend of mine in college had seen this =
cool "band" down in charleston, sc.  it was amy & emily only, playing =
acoustic.  my friend was sold & sold our whole hall on them.  we all =
bought strange fire & would sit up at night pondering over the lyrics.  =
it is some of my fondest memories of college.)
as soon as the self-titled came out we all ran out & got it.  man, the =
lyrics in those songs still entertain serious discussions.

favorite ig road song:
right now: get out the map (but this, as does anything with me and their =
music, changes daily)

album or song you identify w/ the most:
have to be indigo girls (we all for the longest called this album closer =
to fine) since it holds such memories for me.  eventhough the problems =
that allowed me to identify with it in '89-'90 are gone, i can still =
re-visit the emotions just listening to the songs.  it is weird)

favorite ig:
i love 'em both for different reasons.  amy's passion - emily's hope

how many time have you seen them in concert:
only twice but will see them twice more in the next 35 days.  woohoo!!!

ever met them:
no & don't think i'll ever be that lucky.


kim

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does anyone know the website address for this venue?
for those who got their tickets on line, how did you all do?  can you see
your seat selection before confirming your order?
concerning the upcoming date at umass (oct.16)- i called the mullins center
yesterday to find out when tickets go on sale and they said they have not yet
confirmed the date of the show so they could not yet confirm a ticket sale
date either and would know in about a week.
rena

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orchestra section as a result of being 1st in line.  front pit row was =
all promotional.  will know for sure if it's up for grabs in a day or =
so.  just wanted to see if anyone was interested in buying it.  e-mail =
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tix for amherst go on sale sept 10th at 10am...box office chick just left a
message on my machine...

peace all,
chris

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first album
story goes like this - in '88 a friend of mine in college loaned strange fire
to me; i didn't really listen to it;in 89 another friend of mine copied
indigo girls for me - and put ellen james society on the other side of the
tape - and showed me the video "back on the bus, ya'll".  i was more
impressed with ej at first hearing.  but - i was house-sitting for a friend
for two weeks - stuck the tape in the deck - and two weeks later when my
friend and i went to new orleans - i was singing every word - to both tapes -
i think i just had to develop an "ear" for their voices.  first album i
purchased of my very own?  i think it was rites of passage (tape)  - my
friend had supplied me with cuts prior to that - inlcuding this fab boot that
had sweet melissa, watchtower, get together, spanish harlem and uncle john's
band on it.  i wore that out!  would love to find another.

did i ever meet them?
yep.  i bought tickets for a pensacola saenger theater show for my friend,
her girlfriend and myself.  they had a buddy at one of the local news
stations.  they got him to call and set up an interview prior to the show -
said he wanted to use them in a segment he was doing with on "alternative"
music (this was in 92 - summer of i think).  anyway - my friend did the
interview (her girlfriend and i came along as "camera crew").  she still has
it on tape - i never got a copy - damn!  it was great - about fifteen minutes
- we composed questions on the way to pensacola - all these questions about
songs - meanings - etc.  the concert was packed and we had a blast.  my
friend got autos for all of us afterwards - i still have that tape (rites of
passage) with amy's auto on the cover - and my ticket - the shirt i gave to a
friend of mine.  they were very nice - unassuming and in good moods - it was
a fun caper to be in on.  i don't know if the guy ever did his segment on
alternative music - but we had a great time.

times i've seen them?
pensacola - 92
hattiesburg ms - usm - front row - center stage - 93
two  nights later
msu-starkville ms - ga - but my friend and i pushed our way right up front -
we rocked hard!
birmingham al oct 97 shaming of the sun

why do i love their music?  "its just poetry in motion!"
and its very cool to find so many fellow ig fans.
sonja

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1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:
    costco had the self titled album for cheap in dec of 92. it wasn't
long after that i bought everything else available. i have friends that
sing a cover of ctf but i never knew who the original artist was until i
first played the ig cd. (exclamation point replaced with a period)

favorite ig road song:
  chickenman - my 5 year old insists on it just about every car trip.
i don't think the lyrics are really appropriate for a 5 year old, but he
seems to focus on the chorus anyway.

album or song you identify w/ the most:
prince of darkness

favorite ig:
  amy but she could crush me with a cross word. so i fear her also.

how many time have you seen them in concert:
        justa sec - gotta go count ticket stubs.
8/16/94 summer nights at the pier
6/3/95  portland meadows/ honor the earth
7/28/95 jesus christ superstar
9/96    bumbershoot (map tour)
4/4/97  eugene/hult center (hi bonster & kristina!)
7/11/97 summer nights at the pier
7/12/97 summer nights at the pier
7/13/97 summer nights at the pier
10/2/97 u of montana/ honor the earth
1/22/98 paramount theater
1/23/98 paramount theater
6/20/98 lilith fair
6/21/98 lilith fair
9/3/99  bumbershoot

looks like 14 counting the upcoming show.

ever met them:
    only in my dreams. amy was tired and took a long nap in the guest
room. em just read a book snugged up in the corner of the couch. not to
terribly exciting, but a nice friendly dream.

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date:         sat, 28 aug 1999 12:51:54 -0400
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hi all.  has anyone been to a tori amos / alanis show?
who goes on first?  how long does each perform?
i really only watch to catch tori.
thanks!
jami

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1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:

i was hanging out at a friend's house and she decided to sing a song for us
and she started singing "blood and fire" and i really liked the song and
asked her who sang it...she told me and i bought the album...soon after that
i bought them all, probably around 1991.


favorite ig road song:
chickenman & get out the map


album or song you identify w/ the most:

at the moment....the wood song.


favorite ig:
emily and amy....just can't have one without the other!!  :)

how many time have you seen them in concert:
3 times soon to be 6...


ever met them:
i have met amy twice and emily once...nothing much to brag about, just said
hi and got them to sign my shirt.  met amy in nashville at the daemon record
showcase...talked to her for a few minutes and ask her about the new album.


luann

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wow - so many threads, so little time...

> 1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:

4.5, brought and heard around 1995 (i think) --- after that, and mostly
because of least complicated, i brought so - and then i went and brought
every other ig album.....

> favorite ig road song:

oooooh - well chickenman (of course), but also southland in the springtime
(about the only wonderful memory i've got of travelling on the greyhound
across america), and get out the map -  for some strange reason, and imho,
i can do a pretty decent harmony with emily sometimes....

> album or song you identify w/ the most:

oh god - it really depends what is going on in my life, i used to identify
with love will come to you, and then prince of darkness, and then.......
(wait, wait!!!!! i'm not that depressing!!!!!!)

> favorite ig:

emily, although i'm slowly being pulled over to amy......

> how many time have you seen them in concert:

twice - pine knob, michigan in 1997, and nff this year - and both times
i've ended up discovering new music because of them...

> ever met them:

no, sadly, although i have seen them from a distance a couple of times.

well, that's me done...

john.
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hide."
(xander, buffy the vampire slayer)

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hi.

the latest ana egge mailing gives the release date of the dusty
springfield tribute album (with a track by ig), "dusty forever", as
9/28/99.

have a nice weekend.

carrie

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hey everybody.  for anybody going to bumbershoot this year, or anybody who
has gone before, i have a question.  do people who want a wristband usually
show up before the gates open?  i was planning on showing up about 20 minutes
before the gates opened, and then i began to wonder if there would be a
really long line and i wouldn't be able to get a wristband, sooo for anybody
who knows...can you please please help me out???? thanks a lot! =)


                                ---lindy =)

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my embarrassingly giddy tale of meeting the girls is linked to the picture
of the baskstage pass at the top of my ig page.  i wrote it pretty soon
after the event, and it sounds entirely too fawning today, but i thought it
best to leave it intact, sort of as a reminder of how special those days were!

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> > 1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:
> >
> swamp ophelia - 1995
> >
> > favorite ig road song:
> >
> > get out the map, it's alright, fugitive (great to
> sing along to)
> >
> >
> > album or song you identify w/ the most:
> >
> > love will come to you, left it up to me, and left
> me
> a fool
> >
> favorite ig:
> >
> > emily
> >
> > how many time have you seen them in concert:
> >
> > 3 times plus one lilith
> >
> > ever met them:
> >
> > no :(
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1st ig album you heard/bought/what year:
the soundtrack of boys on the side (whatever year the movie came out).
these incredible voices leapt out at me on track 4. grabbing the cd case
i had to know who was singing.  i raced out to buy a full album thinking
that surely this was a fluke, not all their material could be this good.
swamp ophelia. i was wrong, it was that good.

favorite ig road song:
hey kind friend because most of the time i'm driving around the pacific
northwest or on a ferry boat bound for victoria. i also love singing
along to midnight train to georgia at the top of my lungs when driving
at night. woo hoo

album or song you identify w/ the most:
watershed. i'm not sure why, i think it's the fork in the road line and
hammer and a nail because it always reminds me to stop thinking about it
and do it and dead man's hill because it brings to mind all the pictures
in my head of growing up and...oh, the question wasn't, songs, plural
oops.

favorite ig:
amy. no emily, no wait amy, no no emily. sorry can't do it.

how many time have you seen them in concert:
5 including liliths and suff. and 6 days until bumbershoot!

ever met them:
amy once and emily twice. they shook hands with a few of us who braved
the rain after the last seattle show. amy shook my hand and i said
thanks for coming it was a great show. she smiled and looked at me with
those brown eyes and said thanks, that's really nice, and squeezed my
hand. i melted into the sidewalk.

that was fun.
helen

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