lifeblood: listlogs: 1999-10a


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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 19:10:47 -0500
reply-to:     jen mek <jmek@earthlink.net>
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subject:      emily
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everyone keeps talking about the sorrow that emily has had over the past
year.  can someone email me privately and clue me in?  i don't know what
happened.

please?

peace and pride,
- jen mek

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 20:01:35 -0400
reply-to:     elaine bean <efbean@erols.com>
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from:         elaine bean <efbean@erols.com>
subject:      re: emily tragedy
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someone wrote:
>
> >...emily being affected by her tragedy.
> >...tell me what happened?...

her curliness wrote:

> so i think that anybody who publicly, or even privately airs this--
> somebody else's business--
> should have to tell all 800something of us
> about an extremely painful, potentially destructive event
> from their *own* lives.
> (fair's only fair, no?  quid pro quo?)
> and then see how they value their personal privacy.

touche jilly  - (i can't make the little accent mark with this email
program).

now, i finally got to listen to the two hidden tracks - i think the
sister reprise has a little "rider on the storm" by the doors feel to
it, don't you think?  i've got to listen to that sesame street moon song
now.  oh, my nights are so productive.

elaine

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 20:11:47 -0400
reply-to:     debbie woodell <woodeld@phillynews.com>
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from:         debbie woodell <woodeld@phillynews.com>
subject:      re: emily tragedy

on thursday, september 30, 1999 7:47 pm, jilly c [smtp:jillyc@hotmail.com]
wrote:
> so i think that anybody who publicly, or even privately airs this--
> somebody else's business--
> should have to tell all 800something of us
> about an extremely painful, potentially destructive event
> from their *own* lives.
        here's mine: i haven't been to my parents' home to visit in 10 years,
because they don't like that i'm gay, and they refuse to allow my partner
to be in their company.
        now, can we go easy on folks who might not know the circumstances we are
all talking about?
deb

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 20:15:35 -0400
reply-to:     beccie lyon <beccie@websunshine.com>
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from:         beccie lyon <beccie@websunshine.com>
subject:      similarieties in cons
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elaine wrote:

"now, i finally got to listen to the two hidden tracks - i think the
sister reprise has a little "rider on the storm" by the doors feel to
it, don't you think?  i've got to listen to that sesame street moon song
now.  oh, my nights are so productive."

actually as i was driving home listening to sister, i kept thinking about
bob seager's turn the page. that kinda dark motor cycle in the night kinda
feel....anybody else get that feeling. actually what i am picturing is a
younger amy with longer hair helmetless, hair blowing in the wind, white tee
shirt, jeans and boots riding down a dark texas road lost in
thought....hmmmm maybe i need to turn to my poetry book...


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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 20:20:05 edt
reply-to:     iudoremi@aol.com
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subject:      rose show tonight - nyc!!!!!!!!!
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rose polenzani!!!!!
tonight, at the living room, corner of stanton and allen in greenwich village
(nyc)
she goes on at 11, promptly at 11, that is.  there is no cover but please be
as generous as possible!!
rose kicks butt and you should all be witness to this phenomenon!!!!!

carrie
p.s. i will be there, black t-shirt, light khakis, long very dark brown hair.
look for me!

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 19:29:07 -0500
reply-to:     "emily d. mark" <emark@indiana.edu>
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from:         "emily d. mark" <emark@indiana.edu>
subject:      saliers family tragedy- last words on this please
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i recognize that many people may have not been around when this happened,
so hopefully this email will set everyone straight, answer questions, and
we can cease discussion of it. no hard feelings towards those who don't
know and innocently asked :)

emily's sister carrie passed away this year. i actually knew her on an
acquaintance level (didn't know she was emily's sister,) and out of respect
for her and her family it isn't public knowledge how she died.

just so you know- :)

emily

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 20:17:05 edt
reply-to:     iudoremi@aol.com
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from:         iudoremi@aol.com
subject:      re: rose p./ hildegard von bingam
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shana?  you told emily she reminded you of hildegard von bingen?  as in
classical composer and theorist hildegard von bingen?  huh?  how so?  please
elaborate!  i cannot wait to hear this comparison :)
carrie

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 10:57:28 +1000
reply-to:     "ghelen@act.paxus.com.au" <ghelen@act.paxus.com.au>
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from:         helen <ghelen@act.paxus.com.au>
organization: paxus-act
subject:      cons over the phone...
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oh this is so cool. my sister is playing cons to me on the phone (i'm
getting it at lunch time).

first impressions - go rocks! nice development on earlier work.

sister - wow! need to hear more.

peace tonight - well, i can see why people are a bit down on it. a little
too immediately accessible i think. might grow on me.

love amy's grandmother's bit!

philosophy of loss is so sweet and poignant and simple!

faye tucker - what's amy doing with her voice? i seem to remember having a
similar reaction to new amy stuff on sots. out of the two, amy seems to be
the one who really works on trying new tricks with her voice. don't always
get it straight away but i'm happy to follow her direction if she's
growing.

come on now lunch time....i want this cd!!!

helen - happy at last...

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 21:07:55 edt
reply-to:     nyka95@aol.com
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subject:      re: air fare -nigc
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in a message dated 09/30/1999 2:44:44 pm eastern daylight time,
jillyc@hotmail.com writes:

<<
http://www.airtran.com was the place
  >>
i recently flew airtran to atlanta, and despite the horror stories i heard,
about how unsafe they were supposed to be, it was a very pleasant experience.
the planes were alot smaller than larger airlines, but the people were really
nice and helpful. and the price was right!
just thought you might like to know...
mary

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 21:38:31 edt
reply-to:     nyka95@aol.com
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in a message dated 09/28/1999 1:12:42 am eastern daylight time,
talbotc@umich.edu writes:

<< packaging sucks. >>

i've heard this from a few different people.  can someone tell me why?  what
is different about the packaging on this cd than others?

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 21:38:42 edt
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<< ig are the indigo
girls because they have amazing  harmonic ability when they sing together.
it's just sad for me as i miss albums like rop.  >>

let's not forget that they still sing the wonderful harmony stuff in concert.
this is just a new album, which means new songs.  doens't mean they're not
going to continue playing the stuff we love!!!!

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 22:00:58 edt
reply-to:     joanm12345@aol.com
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from:         joan morrison <joanm12345@aol.com>
subject:      re: come on now social
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<< when she says the line about "killin don't pay", it
could be
directed at karla faye for having killed people or the people who have
killed her. >>

as well it should.  but, i'm not sure that's what she's meaning there. i
dunno.  i personally, don't have much sympathy for kft.  anyhoo, at the
journey of hope benefit in april, when a&e came onstage, emily said (to the
roar of cheers) that they were against the death penalty.  before that point,
i was wondering if the song was anti-death penalty or ambivalent.

peace!

joan :-d

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 20:10:59 -0600
reply-to:     garian <vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu>
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subject:      sister reprise
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anyone who has new mongrels big cup of empty must have immediately heard
the similarity to "lower depths!"

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 22:38:38 -0400
reply-to:     "kristina :-)" <vaskys9889@duq.edu>
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from:         "kristina :-)" <vaskys9889@duq.edu>
subject:      cons - new mongrels
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garian wrote:
> anyone who has new mongrels big cup of empty must have immediately
> heard the similarity to "lower depths!"

actually, i was thinking about how this whole entire cd reminded me of
the new mongrels cd in general. . .like, a lot of little subtle things
that'll hint toward it (like the way em says, "all the gays will pay
again" reminds me of. . .shoot, i can't remember what song). and just
the overall feel of the cd, too. . .lots of different people jamming and

coming together to make wonderful music (which is very similar to new
mongrels). i think that in itself makes the cd worthwhile. of course, i
still like it regardless. :-)

love and music,
kristina :-)

p.s. those who have never heard the music of the new mongrels, check
them out. . .gooood stuff. :-)

* * * * *
"the music whispers you in urgency -
        hold fast to that languageless connection." - emily saliers

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 11:31:57 +0900
reply-to:     "karen, the big bad bitch of japan" <prochoicer@gurlmail.com>
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i wanted to thank all of you aussies who e-mailed me back!  i am so psyched to come see your country.

though it looks like i will miss the ig australia tour.  i'll be there in december, and from what i am hearing, it seems they won't be there until feb/march.  oh well.  anyway, does anyone know if they are planning on touring the states this spring?

...still listening to cons...

:-) karen

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 22:17:09 edt
reply-to:     jilly c <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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from:         jilly c <jillyc@hotmail.com>
subject:      nigc but i never have any, now do i
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the 3m corporation
(you know, the scotch tape and buf puff people)
is headed by the most impressive clan of rat bastards.
let me tell you.
they took my stepmother's job away
because apparently the 20+ years that they held her in indentured servitude
is irrelevant to them.

mmm, corporate hegemony.

feel free to boycott.

*j


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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 19:39:18 -0700
reply-to:     kristina <andrade@az.com>
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from:         kristina <andrade@az.com>
subject:      ig in bellingham, wash. (nov 11)
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ig will be appearing at the mt. baker theatre in bellingham, washington on
november 11. tickets are $31.50 and $37.00 (i don't know the exact
difference, sorry) and will go on sale at 10am on oct 8th. the mt. baker
ticket office number is (360) 734-6080.

people, trust me when i say there is _not_ a bad seat in the house. it is a
small venue and the show will be incredible. get your tickets the day they
go on sale or you might miss out. you should have seen the look on my face
when i opened the paper and read this information! for a second i thought i
was dreaming.

k.

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 21:56:48 -0500
reply-to:     barbara bordner <barbinmn@webtv.net>
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from:         barbara bordner <barbinmn@webtv.net>
subject:      re: nigc but i never have any, now do i
in-reply-to:  jilly c <jillyc@hotmail.com>'s message of thu, 30 sep 1999
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i  really feel like a doofus right now , but would someone please tell
me what  nigc  is?

thanks!

barb

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 23:00:14 +0600
reply-to:     jack mitchell <jamitch3@mindspring.com>
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from:         jack mitchell <jamitch3@mindspring.com>
subject:      re: philosophy of loss lyrics
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at 07:48 pm 9/30/99 -0400, i am 32 flavors and then some... wrote:
>i jotted them down last night to post on a board - i think i have them all
>right...but if someone thinks something is wrong, feel free to correct me
>:)
>
>--audra

well, i was the one who asked for them in the first place.  you managed to
hit all of the lines that i hadn't been able to make out, but i did catch
one that i'm pretty sure isn't right....
thanks for posting them!

jack

>song:     philosophy of loss (hidden track)
>artists:  indigo girls
>album:    come on now social
>writer:   emily saliers

>modern scribes write on jesus christ
>everyone is free

i think it should be

modern scribes write "in jesus christ
everyone is free"

>and the doors open wide to all straight men and women
>but they are not open to me


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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 20:05:28 -0700
reply-to:     lori ann <liltree@yahoo.com>
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from:         lori ann <liltree@yahoo.com>
subject:      re: hildegard von bingen/strange fire lp/(nigc) "indigo moods"
              and "cimarron"
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--- carrie wrote:
> shana?  you told emily she reminded you of hildegard
> von bingen?  as in
> classical composer and theorist hildegard von
> bingen?

as in hildegard von bingen who was a nun locked up in
a little nook (there's a name for it) and was visited
by god who told her she must write and got sick when
she didn't?  this is kind of funny, cause i just came
from talking with my women's studies professor who is
a specialist in german women's literature and who did
a bunch of stuff with the hildegard conference last
year celebrating the 1000th anniversary of her birth
(or death?) and even went to germany in the middle of
the semester.  the weirdest part is, she (my prof, not
hildegard) is going to atlanta next week, so i was
telling her to visit the watershed.

anyway, before my meeting with my prof, i was over at
the ktuh studios for dj training, and after my turn
was over i was looking through some of the old vinyl
they have.  much to my surprise, what do i find, but a
copy of the *original* strange fire lp.  i nearly
fainted.  who would have thunk it, some independent
singer-songwriters way over in atlanta would ship
their first independent lp release all the way to some
college radio station in hawaii.  wowzers.  the only
problem was high horse was kind of scratched up.

on a completely different note, lori the insomniac was
watching the cable listings on tv last night at about
1 am, seeing if there was anything good to watch
besides overenthusiastic guys selling baseball cards
on the shop at home channel, and as the adult
pay-per-view channels were scrolling by, i noticed one
that was titled "indigo moods."  hmmmmm...oh, and i
also saw that turner classic movies was playing
something called "cimarron."  this made me think of
come, but when i turned to tcm i discovered it's a
premium channel.  maybe jill, our resident come
expert, would know?

lori ann (who, no, still has not listened to cons
yet)(everybody sing: "oooooh looooori aaaaann i feeeel
for yooou")


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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 22:07:49 -0500
reply-to:     barbara bordner <barbinmn@webtv.net>
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from:         barbara bordner <barbinmn@webtv.net>
subject:      re: nigc but i never have any, now do
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okay!  thanks guys!  i  get the message,  no indigo girls content , and
sigc some indigo girls content.  got it, i don't feel like a "doofus,"
for asking , anymore.

thanks,

barb

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 21:20:49 -0600
reply-to:     kz123@worldnet.att.net
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subject:      re: emily tragedy
x-to:         debbie woodell <woodeld@phillynews.com>
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hey deb,
thank you for your comment.
it's a rare and lucky person indeed who's escapes their teens without some kind of
very real and intimate anguish.

we need to treat each other, those who we may actually correspond with on a regular
basis, and come to know as just folks, with the same regard and gentleness with
which we protect the privacy and sensitivities of women who's music we love, but who
will probably never know our names.

be well,
kc

debbie woodell wrote:

> on thursday, september 30, 1999 7:47 pm, jilly c [smtp:jillyc@hotmail.com]
> wrote:
> > so i think that anybody who publicly, or even privately airs this--
> > somebody else's business--
> > should have to tell all 800something of us
> > about an extremely painful, potentially destructive event
> > from their *own* lives.
>         here's mine: i haven't been to my parents' home to visit in 10 years,
> because they don't like that i'm gay, and they refuse to allow my partner
> to be in their company.
>         now, can we go easy on folks who might not know the circumstances we are
> all talking about?
> deb
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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 15:40:18 -0700
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        reply to:   re>philosophy of loss

>was wondering if anyone has written down all the
>words....there are a few bits that i still can't catch.  so, if you've got
>'em, could you send them to the list (or if they've already been on the
>list, just send them to me -- i just rejoined the list)

i'll post 'em again, since more than one person has asked:

welcome to why the church has died
in the heart of the exile, in the kingdom of fate/hate.<--(probably "hate")
who owns the land and keeps the commands,
and marries itself to the state.

modern scribes write 'in jesus christ, everyone is free'.
and the doors open wide to all straight men and women,
but they are not open to me.

who is teaching kids to be soldiers?
to be marked by a plain white cross?
and we kill just a little to save a lot more,
the philosophy of loss.

and there are a few who would be true out of love,
and love is hard.
and don't think that our hands haven't shoveled the dirt,
of all their central american graveyards.

doctors and witch hunters stripped you bare,
left you nothing for your earthy sins.
yeah but who made this noise? just a bunch of boys.
and the one with the most toys wins.

and who is teaching kids to be gamblers?
life is a coin toss.
and of course, what you give up is what you gain.
the philosophy of loss.

whatever has happened to anyone else
could happen to you and to me.
the end of my youth was the possible truth
that it all happens randomly.

so who is teaching kids to be leaders?

and the way that it is is meant to be.
the philosophy of loss.

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 13:44:47 +1000
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yay. i own cons. but i'm at work and can't listen....


just a note on the lyrics of gone again - no one has mentioned that it's
kind of about austalia....

amy uses names like kakadu (national park for non-aussies), kings cross
(red light district in sydney) and melbourne (capital of victoria)...that
might clarify the lyrics a little for non-aussies out there..

i love her for writing it. a little nod to us down here... thanks amy. :-)

love the pictures. is it just me or does emily's hair look redder than
ever?

and amy has streaks. cute.

the girls look so grown up compared to early shots of them on watershed
don't they? they look lovely as always.

helen

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 21:06:41 pdt
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beccie lyon <beccie@websunshine.com> wrote:
elaine wrote:

"now, i finally got to listen to the two hidden tracks - i think the
sister reprise has a little "rider on the storm" by the doors feel to
it, don't you think?"

definately........

"actually as i was driving home listening to sister, i kept thinking about
bob seager's turn the page. that kinda dark motor cycle in the night kinda
feel....anybody else get that feeling. actually what i am picturing is a
younger amy with longer hair helmetless, hair blowing in the wind, white tee
shirt, jeans and boots riding down a dark texas road lost in
thought...."

again, i agree! (kind of like me! except i don't have a motorcycle - yet - and
i don't live in texas...oh well...............)
-k

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someone mentioned the spitfire tour will be at u of iowa, which is only 4
hours away from me. did anyone have the schedule? website addy?

thanks

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my austin tickets just got here. am i happy? oh yeah.
i'm gonna be road trippin'... look for me in the happy
hertz rental weaving sleepy alllll the way to texas.

yee haw. i'll be mainlining 7-11 coffee for 17 hours
solid. it's gonna be a hell of a ride.
kc

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date:         thu, 30 sep 1999 23:05:04 -0500
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the last two days had been going so well... until tonight...

i went to the gym with my roomie's discman and my new ig cd for my daily
run, and got a personal best on the mile while listening to cons.  finding
a cramp in my calf, i set down the cd player to go stretch by the stairs -
when i returned about 20 seconds later, the cd player was gone.  i've
filed a report with the gym and everything, but i don't think i'll ever
see that cd player or the ig cd again. :(  i took on extra work last week
to earn the money for the cons cd, and it's so sad to see that money and
time go to waste.  as i am a grad student, i can't just go out and buy
another cd right now..  so... if anyone is willing to do me a favor, would
you volunteer to dub your cd for me?  i'll send over a blank tape and
postage to get it back to me.  i know it's not usually a good idea to dub
commercial cds for people, but i do intend to buy another copy of this one
as soon as i can work up the extra money.  thanks if you want to help.

sorry this post was such a downer.  i hope y'all have good weekends
wherever you are!

susan

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reply-to:     lisa ann <listadd@yahoo.com>
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--- helen <ghelen@act.paxus.com.au> wrote:

> just a note on the lyrics of gone again - no one has
> mentioned that it's
> kind of about austalia....

> i love her for writing it. a little nod to us down
> here... thanks amy. :-)

just another little nod for you guys down under.  last
november (i can't believe it's almost been a year) at
the song writer's night at eddie's attic, amy talked
about how australia had been on her mind a lot lately
- the smell of things, the feel of things, etc.  and i
guess she played gone again after that, although i
can't really remember for sure.  but i, too, love that
this song takes place in australia.  i was lucky
enough to travel there with my entire family a few
years back and i remember nothing but beautiful land,
very friendly people and rich history.  and i remember
the faces amy made while singing certain lines from
the song - smiles (kiss and some poetry) and raised
eyebrows (courting some disaster).  seems to me she
has some good, good memories of australia!  my friend
dana studied abroad in australia last year and she
now, of course, is a fan of anything even remotely
connected to australia.  i told her she would love
gone again.  the song just makes me smile!

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<<sister reprise has a little "rider on the storm" by the doors feel to
it, don't you think?"

and

"actually as i was driving home listening to sister, i kept thinking about
bob seager's turn the page. >>

this is so funny - now that i think about it, those songs do come to mind!
turn the page is one of my all-time faves - i would love to hear amy sing it.
and, she could pull it off and probably identify with it - "...most times
you can't hear 'em talk / other times you can / same old cliches / is that a
woman or a man..."  ya know?

does the bass/drum break before the bridge in go remind anyone else of
nirvana's "smells like teen spirit"????

peace!

joan :-d

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who was it that said there might be an ig in feb/march next year? where is
this whisper coming from? oh the timing would be too perfect. exactly two
years since they were here last....*sigh*

helen

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hi all.  my gf and i will be going to both shows.  is there a list meet
planned or in the works?  if so could someone email me about it please?
thanks!  hope to see some of ya'll there :)
jill

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my school's mail server totally crashed today, and is
now apparently being restored from the last tape
backup.. so i got no email today (and never will..
it's all destined to float aimlesly in the void of
cyberspace eternally)... i just set up this acct
beause i miss the list, esp. at its recent busy pace.
could someone tell me either how to get to archives so
i can see what went out on the list today, or email me
with a recap of the days emails... and on the off
chance anyone either emailed me personally or sent out
a msg that dealt in any way with me or my posts,
please send it here...

thanks,
shannon

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since i don't trust buying tickets by phone and my weekend is too busy to go
down to san diego to buy tickets on saturday, is there someone out there who
will be at a ticket vendor at 10am (or earlier like obsessive me would be) who
could pick up a couple tickets for me? pretty please? or, does anyone know fer
shure if any ticketbastards near claremont will sell san diego area tickets?
thanks for the help in advance.
-sam (trying to work up the motivation to go to bed)

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because i wonder the most random things at 2:34 am . . .

anyone know what sort of vehicle emily drives?

        battle on,
        shanie
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just a reminder for everyone who's going to the davidson show:

we will be meeting after the show at the women's restroom closest
to the main entrance.  everyone is welcome and if you are unable
to go out after the show stop by and say hello anyway!

i also have some not-so-great news regarding admission into the
show.  a student who is working at the show told me that they will
open the doors to davidson students first (they have different tickets)
and the public will be admitted later.  how much later he didn't say...
he did assure me, though, that "the students generally are pretty
apathetic towards the concert and if you get there early you should
be able to get within ten feet of the stage."

if anyone has questions about the meet please email me privately.
see you at the show!
angela

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 07:41:52 edt
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>also saw that turner classic movies was playing
>something called "cimarron."  this made me think of
>come, but when i turned to tcm i discovered it's a
>premium channel.  maybe jill, our resident come
>expert, would know?

cimarron, which is the title of one of the incredible songs that thalia
zedek contributed to the sst shows (it starts "don't talk to meeee" and for
some reason, that opening line works), means 'wild, untamed.'  i think
there's some western film by that name (which is probably what was showing
on turner), as well as a truck line.  very bizarre to be on the pa turnpike
and see one of your favorite song titles slathered across the back of a
semi.
if anyone cares, come's version of cimarron cannot be found on any of their
albums.  it's on the compilation disc "ain't nothin' but a she thing," which
features many rocking chicas.

jill
(and jami k is probably more come-knowledgeable than me.)

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has anyone had luck with non-name brand ink-jet cartridges?  i'm going
through printer cartridges so fast doing bootlegs and they're $30 each.
non-name brands i see are like $16, but i don't want to mess up my printer.
anyone have advice?

thanks,
tara

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>        here's mine: i haven't been to my parents' home to visit in 10 years,
>because they don't like that i'm gay, and they refuse to allow my partner
>to be in their company.
>        now, can we go easy on folks who might not know the circumstances
we are
>all talking about?
>deb

bravo, deb.  here's mine:
i hadn't seen my dad in 10 years when he died.  my mother was 52 when she
had a stroke.  i had to watch her die after they took her off life support.

yes, there are some people who don't know the ins and outs of this list.
there's no need to be cruel to them.
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hey...

well, i'm all for a list meet in philly... unfortunately the tower theater isn't situated
in the best area, meeting up wise... i'm going to drive by on the weekend to double check,
but our options so far are:

- inside before the show (i favour this one at the mo)
- outside after the show (maybe in conjunction with this)
- mcdonalds
- all back to neil's for hard cider, great music, and so-so conversation...

let me know if anyone has any bright ideas...

> hi all.  my gf and i will be going to both shows.  is there a list meet
> planned or in the works?  if so could someone email me about it please?
> thanks!  hope to see some of ya'll there :)

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reply-to:     neily@netreach.net
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subject:      em tragedy/out of sheer curiosity . . .

hey...

what we need is a shameless indigo girls gossip list.

so people who want to can and people who don't have to deal.

> anyone know what sort of vehicle emily drives?

yes, with a but...

a) i forget the type (it was a silver convertable, i think)
b) i saw in an interview she drives something else (as well/instead?)

helpful, no?

wait, does this mean i still have to share some personal secret?
i don't like mushrooms, olives or shellfish.

this is what boredom at work does to a guy...

neil
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> yes, there are some people who don't know the ins
> and outs of this list.
> there's no need to be cruel to them.
>
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> sheryl jones

bravo sheryl my sentiments exactly...if people want to
inform people of boo boos and faux pahs...then email
them privately and not to the entire list. no need to
have people running scared from this list...we are a
gentle knid honest bunch of people...most of the time
anyway.,....


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don't know if ig will be in this book or not, just giving y'all (and it
*is* "y'all," a contraction for "you all"!) a heads up:

>*** 'austin city limits' book honors 25 years
>
>new york (billboard) - performances by willie nelson, lucinda
>williams, john denver, roy orbison and ray charles have helped make
>pbs series "austin city limits" a lauded event. now, the music
>program's silver anniversary will be commemorated with a book
date: wed, 20 oct 1999 16:16:03 +0000
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>reliving the show's greatest moments. "austin city limits: 25 years
>of american music" will contain photos of over 500 artists who have
>taken part in the series, which chronicles the finest in country,
>blues, folk, tejano, bluegrass and rock music; it will also feature
>personal anecdotes and reminiscences. lyle lovett contributes the
>forward to the tome. to be priced at $35, "austin city limits" will
>be released next month by billboard books. the series' 25th season
>will launch in february 2000.


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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 15:06:07 "gmt"
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i was part of this list over a year ago.  at that tyme someone figured out the music on guitar for gone again.  does anyone out there still have them?  i know i do somewhere, but i have misplaces them.  please let me know.  also,  does anyone remeber indicated, the list compilation tape of the girls?  let me know.  i donated a song and have never seen the tape.  i believe the one in charge of that was bethany.  is she still around?  anyways,  any info on any of this would be greatly appreciated.

thanx,
  j&t

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 08:06:02 pdt
reply-to:     karen murphy <murphyslaw77@netscape.net>
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studying for a huge anthro. test i have to take in 2 hours... not mildly
prepared for it.... i've been reading about this geneticist/evolutionist
(whatever!) john ray who came up with the whole genus/species thing...
so i've been trying to make a connection btw him and amy so i'll remember it
for the test.  pathetic.... so far i've got that he came up with genus, and i
think amy is a genius, get it?  oooh, y'all are quick this morning!!!!
i've got live chickenman cranking in the background... alternating old/new ig.
sooooooooo excited for dc show. my wonderful friend andy is coming from the
boston area to attend with me, along with 6 other various freaks from here....
it is going to be one f*cking party!
anyone going to the dc show better stand up and be counted so i can match
faces with names..... seriously, let me know if youre going....
and didn't someone say they were going to ani too at the 9:30 club?  i'll be
there too....... cant wait! just need to get through today and monday when i
have a phil. exam, and then i will assume my preferred position on the kitchen
table (to dance, not for other purposes!!! although.....  =0)
enough of me.....
keep on rockin' in the free world!
-k

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 11:21:37 edt
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last night they played in knoxville.. they were having a great time with
their new band.. very obvious.  and oh hell, can i we say, cello!??  she was
awesome!  really.  im enjoying the new drummer, blair cunningham too..
ok...they are all great!  they werent as talkative as ive seen them
before.... but regardless, very happy.  here's the setlist.. with a little
goody at the end!

1. closer to fine (a nice opener change!)
2. land of canaan
3. trouble (blah...crowd wasnt too excited over this one... i'd have to agree)
4. shame on you (amy fucks up (well she says it in the song right???!) the
solo.. they all     had blast laughing about it.. funny gestures :)
5. virginia woolf (umm yea!)
6. ozillene (wonderful....)
7. you & me of the 10,000 wars (is this song regarding her father?)
8. this train revised (rockin...)
9. cold beer and remote control (nice.........)
10. gone again
11. least complicated
12. peace tonight (was much better acoustic at journey of hope)
13. shed your skin
14. andy (emily's learned yet another new instrument.. the bazouki...i
believe)
15. faye tucker (i like it!)
16. power of two (carol isaacs played a beautiful piano intro... )
17. suffer... oops.. go

*encore*
18. wood song (this was great.... all musicians left stage except em/amy...
just like the       old days....)
19.  amy new song!  a treat!  you guys know that mandolin song she starts
right before compromise on cons?  well she played it all... emily left stage,
so she was solo.  just her and her mandolin.  was really cute.. called
something like johnny rockfield?
20. galileo.  ok.  so i didnt get to hear ghost.  maybe tomorrow!

good day all!
trooper

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 11:26:43 edt
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ok, since no one else has commented, here's my review of last nights show in
knoxville:

set list:

closer to fine   (yep, they opened with this one!)
land of canaan
trouble
shame on you
virginia woolf
ozilline
10,000 wars
gone again
faye tucker
andy
power of two
go

encore:

the wood song
johnny rotten (i'm not sure about the title of this one, it was a solo by amy
with her mandolin)
galileo

fashion report:

amy: when she came out to introduce the opening act, (three finger cowboy)
she was wearing khaki cargo pants and a black shirt with that red bowling
shirt thing over it.  later when she came out with emily she was wearing a
brown button up shirt and it looked like brown and white checked polyester
pants with those blue suede boots/shoes (whichever).

emily: she was wearing all black...black pants, black shirt, and a black
button up shirt (unbuttoned) over the other black shirt...black shoes oh, and
she had on that glittery eye shadow.


the show was really cool and they talked quite a bit and danced and smiled,
they seemed to be having a good time.  i was really surprised that they
opened with closer to fine, makes me think they are getting tired of always
closing with it.  the first two songs were just amy & emily without the band.

amy broke her fingernail during trouble and kept trying to bite it off, so
she finally turned around a got a piece of white tape and taped it.  during
shame on you, amy messed up the guitar lead and just kinda stopped for a
second and laughed and emily came over and looked at amy's fingers and kinda
cheered her on so she finally played it right and they laughed, after the
song was over amy said "oohhh  i blew the lead on that one"

emily seemed to really like ozilline,  at the end she turned her face up
toward the ceiling, shut her eyes and smiled as they sang 'what a blessed
sky'... after the song she said that song is called ozilline, it is about amy's
grandma.

when emily introduced "andy" she said 'this song is about a girl who fell in
love with a farm boy'...then she said 'anyone here ever loved a farm boy'...and
the crowd just started cheering and laughing and emily said 'ahhh there's
nothing like those farm boys!'...and amy said 'that right!'

after "cold beer" emily said 'that's a new song about budweiser!'

before "gone again" amy was trying to remember the chords and she said "just
trying to make sure i'm not having a mental block" then she looked at emily
and said "play real loud"

amy played a song by herself, i think she called it the johnny rotten song
(i'm really not sure)  but it is the song that you can hear her play a little
of on cons just before 'compromise' with her mandolin.  it was some song
about 'when i go over yonder i'm gonna see my mother my sister and my father,
but not my brother cause he's going to hell...."  it was really a cool little
song.  then they closed with galileo, amy said that it was the perfect song
to follow the one she had just played.

they played a lot of new songs but also,  a lot of old ones.  i was
especially happy that they play "the wood song"  all in all it was one of the
best shows i've seen.

sorry about the long post....if you've made it this far that is really cool!

luann

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 08:31:38 -0700
reply-to:     beccie lyon <dovesland@yahoo.com>
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please tell me someone booted this???? i might be able
to trade a nashville for it...please please please????


--- "<erin tripp>" <gitroop@aol.com> wrote:
> last night they played in knoxville.. they were
> having a great time with
> their new band.. very obvious.  and oh hell, can i
> we say, cello!??  she was
> awesome!  really.  im enjoying the new drummer,
> blair cunningham too..
> ok...they are all great!  they werent as talkative
> as ive seen them
> before.... but regardless, very happy.  here's the
> setlist.. with a little
> goody at the end!
>
> 1. closer to fine (a nice opener change!)
> 2. land of canaan
> 3. trouble (blah...crowd wasnt too excited over this
> one... i'd have to agree)
> 4. shame on you (amy fucks up (well she says it in
> the song right???!) the
> solo.. they all     had blast laughing about it..
> funny gestures :)
> 5. virginia woolf (umm yea!)
> 6. ozillene (wonderful....)
> 7. you & me of the 10,000 wars (is this song
> regarding her father?)
> 8. this train revised (rockin...)
> 9. cold beer and remote control (nice.........)
> 10. gone again
> 11. least complicated
> 12. peace tonight (was much better acoustic at
> journey of hope)
> 13. shed your skin
> 14. andy (emily's learned yet another new
> instrument.. the bazouki...i
> believe)
> 15. faye tucker (i like it!)
> 16. power of two (carol isaacs played a beautiful
> piano intro... )
> 17. suffer... oops.. go
>
> *encore*
> 18. wood song (this was great.... all musicians left
> stage except em/amy...
> just like the       old days....)
> 19.  amy new song!  a treat!  you guys know that
> mandolin song she starts
> right before compromise on cons?  well she played it
> all... emily left stage,
> so she was solo.  just her and her mandolin.  was
> really cute.. called
> something like johnny rockfield?
> 20. galileo.  ok.  so i didnt get to hear ghost.
> maybe tomorrow!
>
> good day all!
> trooper
>
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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 10:32:31 -0500
reply-to:     sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu>
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i'd like boots of any of the shows since spac.  i have lots to trade :-)
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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 09:02:36 -0700
reply-to:     melissa gordon <melissa@ce1.com>
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what a magnificent set list!

melissa

**********************
>
> 1. closer to fine (a nice opener change!)
> 2. land of canaan
> 3. trouble (blah...crowd wasnt too excited over this one... i'd have to
agree)
> 4. shame on you (amy fucks up (well she says it in the song right???!) the
> solo.. they all     had blast laughing about it.. funny gestures :)
> 5. virginia woolf (umm yea!)
> 6. ozillene (wonderful....)
> 7. you & me of the 10,000 wars (is this song regarding her father?)
> 8. this train revised (rockin...)
> 9. cold beer and remote control (nice.........)
> 10. gone again
> 11. least complicated
> 12. peace tonight (was much better acoustic at journey of hope)
> 13. shed your skin
> 14. andy (emily's learned yet another new instrument.. the bazouki...i
> believe)
> 15. faye tucker (i like it!)
> 16. power of two (carol isaacs played a beautiful piano intro... )
> 17. suffer... oops.. go
>
> *encore*
> 18. wood song (this was great.... all musicians left stage except
em/amy...
> just like the       old days....)
> 19.  amy new song!  a treat!  you guys know that mandolin song she starts
> right before compromise on cons?  well she played it all... emily left
stage,
> so she was solo.  just her and her mandolin.  was really cute.. called
> something like johnny rockfield?
> 20. galileo.  ok.  so i didnt get to hear ghost.  maybe tomorrow!
>
> good day all!
> trooper
>
>

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 12:40:52 -0400
reply-to:     bean@neu.edu
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from:         elaine bean <bean@neu.edu>
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> i'd like boots of any of the shows since spac.

so would i.  anybody thinking bout making tapes/cdrs of the more recent
shows available to the list?  tape tree?  please?  i'd help if you need
branches, except i can't burn cds, but can only make tapes.  i will try
to boot the oct. 6 show (5 days to go - woo hoo) in lowell - sometimes
my boots come out good, and sometimes they don't because i'm too
preoccupied to pay attention to what i'm doing, and i screw up - i'm
just not a detail person.

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 13:29:00 -0400
reply-to:     michael cunningham <mcunningham@pbp1.com>
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hkf's,

a few dates added including vegas and a few others (can't remember which
ones are newish or have been there).
http://home.earthlink.net/~mcunningham5/indigotour.html

please let us know if there are any new updates!  thanks!!!

and for those of you still playing pac man on your computer - here's the
dates below:  (the info towards the end like 'now' or '10/8' is the on sale
info)  any mistakes, please consult jcs & double d b/c i just like saying
that.  ;)

a+e=ig

10/02/99 davidson, nc john m. belk arena now
(704)892-2375 (local #)
10/04/99 upper darby, pa tower theater now
(215)336-2000 (local tm)
10/05/99 upper darby, pa tower theater now
(215)336-2000 (local tm)
10/06/99 lowell, ma tsongas arena now
(617)931-2000 (local tm)
10/07/99 syracuse, ny landmark theater now
(315)472-0700 (local tm)
10/08/99 fairfax, va patriot center now
(703)573-seat (local tm)
10/10/99 hanover, nh dartmouth - leede arena now
(603)868-7300 (local tm)
10/11/99 new york, ny beacon theater now
(212)307-7171 (local tm)
10/12/99 new york, ny beacon theater now
(212)307-7171 (local tm)
10/13/99 new york, ny beacon theater now
(212)307-7171 (local tm)
10/15/99 asbury park, nj convention hall now
(201)507-8900 (local tm)
10/16/99 amherst, ma u mass-amherst
the mullins center now
(413)733-2500 (local tm)
10/22/99 athens, ga uga - legion field now
(404)249-6400 (local tm)
10/23/99 orlando, fl hard rock live now
(407)839-3900 (local tm)
10/24/99 mobile, al mitchell center 10/8 - 9:00am
(334)460-6047 (local #)
10/26/99 austin, tx the backyard now
(888)597-star (local #)
10/27/99 austin, tx the backyard now
(888)597-star (local #)
10/28/99 dallas, tx bronco bowl 10/2 - 10:00am
(888)597-star (local #)
10/30/99 las vegas, nv house of blues 10/2 - 12:00pm
(702)474-4000 (local tm)
10/31/99 san diego, ca sdsu open air theater 10/2 - 10:00am
(619)220-8497 (local tm)
11/01/99 phoenix, az union hall now
(800)638-4253 (local #)
11/02/99 claremont, ca bridges auditorium 10/4 - 10:00am
(805)583-8700 (local tm)
11/03/99 los angeles, ca wiltern theatre ?
11/04/99 los angeles, ca wiltern theatre  now
(213)480-3232 (local tm)
11/05/99 los angeles, ca wiltern theatre now
(213)480-3232 (local tm)
11/06/99 berkeley, ca berkeley community theatre 10/3 - 10:00am
(510)762-2277 (local #)
11/08/99 san francisco, ca the warfield ?
11/10/99 portland, or theater of the clouds - rose quarter now
(503)224-4400 (local tm)
11/14/99 eugene, or hult center for perf. arts - silva hall now
(541)682-5000 (local #)
11/16/99 boise, id bank of america centre ?
(208)331-3497 (local #)
11/17/99 logan, ut spectrum arena ?
11/19/99 denver, co fillmore auditorium ?
11/20/99 denver, co fillmore auditorium ?
12/16/99 atlanta, ga the tabernacle (404)249-6400

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 10:36:16 -0700
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why on earth don't you trust buying tickets by phone?  do you also
distrust buying stuff over the internet?  is it only tickets that you
won't buy over the phone, or does this extend to all telephone
purchases?

i really don't understand this, because you're sending unencrypted email
to thousands of unknown people every day...  what exactly about
telephone ticket purchases don't you trust?

froglady wrote:
>
> since i don't trust buying tickets by phone and my weekend is too busy to go

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 02:38:40 +0900
reply-to:     "karen, the big bad bitch of japan" <prochoicer@gurlmail.com>
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hey,

i really hope y'all are booting all these wonderful shows that i am hearing all about (and am soooo envious; wishing i could be there), cause when i get home in jan, i will be ready to trade boots again, and some of these shows sound awesome!!!

:-) karen (still listening to cons)

ps- i am getting pissed off at the japanese karaoke bars (they're like pigeons here...they're everywhere), i still haven't found one with at least on ig song, and they have some other pretty off beat stuff...

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 10:45:50 -0700
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quick question...i seem to remember a brief discussion about this on
the list a while ago. i'm trying to decide whether i should ask for
an hour off from work to go to the box office to buy ig tickets or
just try and get them online at 10am.

has anyone gotten front row seats when they bought online?
thanks,
~renee

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 10:47:36 -0700
reply-to:     leslie holeman <lholeman@mail.geron.com>
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sorry for the nigc, but i was wondering if anyone (in the lansing, mi area) knows anything about the band half looking.  i have a friend who has nothing but good things to say about them, and i want to hear more!
thanks,
leslie

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 11:04:48 +0000
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for goodness sakes, i mean i don't trust it for getting a good seat. there's a
big chance of busy phone lines/internet connections. i'm not a paranoid freak. geez.
-sam

graham ames wrote:
>
> why on earth don't you trust buying tickets by phone?  do you also
> distrust buying stuff over the internet?  is it only tickets that you
> won't buy over the phone, or does this extend to all telephone
> purchases?
>
> i really don't understand this, because you're sending unencrypted email
> to thousands of unknown people every day...  what exactly about
> telephone ticket purchases don't you trust?
>
> froglady wrote:
> >
> > since i don't trust buying tickets by phone and my weekend is too busy to go
>
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on fri, 1 oct 1999, froglady wrote:

> for goodness sakes, i mean i don't trust it for getting a good seat. there's a
> big chance of busy phone lines/internet connections.


> i'm not a paranoid freak. geez.

   ...and what's wrong with paranoid freaks?  eh?  eh?

   darius

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last night, i found myself slowly beginning the inevitable lyric analysis of the new cd.  it began quite unintentionally when a verse in trouble popped out at me as completely hopeless, which is a different feel for the girls.  as i read "someday the war will stop and we'll have a peaceful crop, and a girl can get a wife", i thought: cool--typical emily sense of hope in a really messed up world, and then i read "and we can bring you back to life".....wait, um, that verse isn't so hopeful now is it?  that last line seems to imply that all of the above is completely impossible.  of course, i guess it can be interpreted as saying something like "these are the things i really wish could happen" with no implication of if they can or not.  i can't decide which way to look at it.  but then the depressing soon be to nothing, along with philosphy of loss and cold beer and remote control, all seem to add to the general "the world is terminally f***ed up" message i'm getting from emily in this album.  and she may have a point...
but depressing or not, i still love these songs. :)
leslie

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 13:27:54 -0600
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hi, all.

i have a question that has come up after listening to faye tucker.

this question is strictly nigc, and i know everyone will appreciate it if
you respond privately (if you choose to respond).

listening to faye tucker got me thinking about my stance on the death
penalty.  and as i thought, something came to me that i've heard before, but
that i haven't analyzed deeply, and that is this:

if you are pro-life, it is an untenable position to be for the death
penalty.

and

if you are pro-choice, it is an untenable position to be against the death
penalty.

now, understand...i'm not saying the above two statements are correct.  but
they have been on my mind.

so, via private e-mail, i'd like to ask if anyone wants to calmly and
objectively share their opinions on this.  have you ever thought about your
stances on abortion and the death penalty, and whether they're compatible,
both morally and logically?  do you even care?

i'd like to discuss this so i can sort out my thoughts.  if you'd like to,
i'm all ears.  privately.

thanks!

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from:         kristen curry <kz123@att.net>
subject:      bronco bowl/dallas

hi all,

i'm planning on going from austin to the bronco bowl in
dallas in october and i want to know how the floor area
is typically set up. the service rep told me there are
chairs placed in there. are those general admission?

i'm thinking of getting one reserved and one gen admin
just in case... help. any texans out there with
recommendations? it's not clear at all from the arena
diagram. how far back are the reserved seats from the
stage?

also, the backyard doesn't have a diagram, either. where
are the gen admin areas? somebody told me they were off
to the side...

thanks for any info. i'm getting tweeky since it's
october now :-)

cheers,
kc

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i have to say - this really made me laugh!  first of
all - im so glad you moved cons to a more appropriate
place on the shelf!!  *grin*  that's cool.  secondly,
i love that your mom said this...sounds like one cool
mom!

smiles,
sunny


> > mom
> > (who isnt homophobic but still after 5 years of
> > being
> > out has a rought time with me being gay) says to
> the
> > girl "now if you wouldn't mind putting this
> > wonderful
> > work of music in the bag..my girlfriend and i can
> go
> > home and spend sometime together!!"

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 11:56:11 pdt
reply-to:     paula.rose@excite.com
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here's an emily interview in this week's southern voice (www.sovo.com) for
anyone who hasn't seen it:

trouble-it's alright

indigo girls offer a broad call to action on new cd out this week

by laura brown

          "come on now social," the title of indigo girls' new cd out this
week, "beckons you to all things being social, and to take part in
          relationships, but it is not something that is specific, that you
can say 'this title means exactly this,'" explains emily saliers, one half
of
          the grammy award-winning duo.

          the title comes from a song by musical partner amy ray not
included on the new album. while both ray and saliers have become
          outspoken activists, saliers said "come on now social" is "not
specifically" a call to social action. "it's a call to whatever it calls
you
          to," she says.

          whatever its individual meeting, "come on now social" offers
listeners an invitation into an album both intensely personal and
          political, wrapped in a musical package more diverse than any
indigo girls' offering to date.

          co-produced by john reynolds, a drummer who backed sinead o'connor
on tour in 1997 and 1998, the cd features special
          guests including joan osborne, sheryl crow, me'shell ndegeocello,
and luscious jackson's kate schellenbach.

          "come on now social," the duo's seventh full-length epic records
album, shows saliers and ray continuing to reach beyond the
          musical formula that has won them legions of devoted fans, first
in their hometown of atlanta and now around the world.

          from 1989, when indigo girls' first album was released, the two
have became known for an intelligent acoustic sound, with ray's
          songs more rock-driven, saliers' more and introspective.

          but this time out, it's ray who offers the album's purest folk
songs, evoking traditional mountain music and even bluegrass through
          banjo and mandolin on "ozilline," which features a voice-over from
ozilline walker, ray's grandmother, and "gone again", a catchy
          feel-good tune with lyrics that will put a smile on the face of
every fan who can't seem to quit falling in love.

          ray's edgier side still comes through on songs like "faye tucker,"
a celtic-influenced response to the first woman executed in texas
          since the civil war, and "go," an electric guitar-backed call to
action that opens the cd.

          "i think it's a natural progression-it doesn't feel like going out
on a limb, although i feel it is the best record we've made," says
          saliers, who shakes off her own folksy-demeanor for "trouble," one
of the most driving tracks on "come on now social."

          "a song like 'trouble' is probably the rockiest song i've ever
written," she says. "i love rock music, i've just never been able to
          express myself as easily in a rock format as i have in ballad
format, unless i'm playing electric guitar. so 'trouble' is a good release
          for me."

          "trouble" breaks ground for saliers thematically as well
musically. while "it's alright"- a track from indigo girls' last cd, 1997's
          "shaming of the sun"- shows saliers speaking to people who "hate
me 'cause i'm gay," "trouble" goes much further, addressing
          specific gay rights issues.

          with backing vocals from joan osborne, saliers takes on anti-gay
religious bigotry-"and when the clergy take a vote/ all the gays
          will pay again/ 'cause there's more than one kind of criminal
white collar"-and looks toward the day when "a girl can get a wife."

          "at some point, you've just got to say it," saliers says of the
duo's evolving outspokenness on gay rights issues. "it's such a part of
          our lives and there is still so much oppression where people are
trying to deny gay people of just basic civil rights. ...

          "it wasn't like when i set down to write that song, i decided i'm
going to make a 'statement song,' and i'm going to talk about
          homosexuality and this and that and all the others," she
continues.

          "it's just that when i got into the song emotionally, i started
thinking that one thing that really pisses me off is that the church-that
is
          supposed to represent the teachings of jesus christ, who never
said a word about homosexuals and whose teachings are about
          equality and loving each other, and doing unto others-and you have
the institution of the church preventing homosexuals from
          becoming ministers to help and love people.

          "it's just a perversion of the teachings to me, and so that makes
me upset," saliers says. "so when i'm writing the song, i get all
          worked up and i'm like, wait a minute, i feel this, too. and
another thing-like that."

          another thing that upsets saliers on "trouble" is the lack of
respect for gay and lesbian relationships, the fact that a girl can't "get
a
          wife."

          "i think gay people who make a commitment to each other and
covenant ... is the same thing as a straight marriage, but it is
          important to get the legal protection and recognition," says
saliers, who describes her own partner of five years as "awesome." "this
          is not just a feel good, symbolic issue."

          listen beyond the last track on "come on now social," and the same
themes surface again in a simple but hauntingly beautiful song
          about "the philosophy of loss" that floats at the end of the
album.

          "modern scribes write and jesus cries, and everyone is free / and
the doors open wide to all straight men and women / but they are
          not open to me," saliers sings.

          being so open may have cost indigo girls support from the music
industry along the way, saliers acknowledges.

          "i think it probably does hurt us in some ways, and turns some
people off, and there is some homophobia in the business," she says.
          "but we have a great career, and we have great fans, both straight
and gay, men and women, young people and older people.

          "so even though maybe being so socially active and political may
have held us back in some ways, it's just really the only way we
          know how to live, and i would like to thank the fans who stick
with us. it all gets so serious sometimes, but a lot of it is also just to
          have a good time."

          indeed, indigo girls have done the opposite of "selling out"-the
duo has become more politically involved and outspoken with each
          successive album. along with gay and lesbian rights, "come on now
social" also addresses the death penalty, women's rights,
          ageism, apathy, and other issues.

          while the cd still includes plenty of songs focused on love and
the simple joy of family and friends, saliers cites "injustice and love"
          as the two most common themes for her songs, will indigo girls one
day reach a point where they leave behind the music to become
          full-time activists?

          "i don't want to do that. i think that you can do both, and i
don't want our music to just be purely activist music," saliers says.
          "because i think that's limited, and these are such
catchwords-'activism' and 'politics.' they mean different things to
different
          people. to me it is just all about love, about trying to spread
love in a broken world."

          and for saliers and ray-a duo that's been making music together
longer than many of us have been able to make even romantic
          relationships last-that love also means offering each other the
freedom to experiment and grow away from the group.

          both have long had their own outside projects, from ray's daemon
records label to saliers' partnership in watershed, a restaurant
          in decatur.

          now they're working on separate musical projects as well. saliers
sang with vonda shepard on the hit "baby don't you break my
          heart slow," while ray has announced plans to record a solo album.


          but saliers is quick to quell any fears that indigo girls might
consider breaking up.

          "we still love playing together, we love this record, and we love
our new band, and we love each other," she says, laughing. "amy's
          a great person, and if we want to do separate things, that just
fuels us further creatively, and we're both for that. i think we've
          reached a mature stage in our relationship."

          indigo girls' next path will take them on tour around the u.s.
this fall, including a show in athens on oct. 22 and an as-of-yet
          unannounced date at the tabernacle in atlanta in december.

          for more information, contact the duo's web-site at
www.indigogirls.com; tickets available through ticketmaster at 404-249-6400.


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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 15:00:15 -0400
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hi yall,

anyone figure out the chords to this ultra-cool song yet?      ~ janene

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 15:29:33 edt
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if anyone needs tickets to tomorrow nights davidson show, please email me
privately!!

good day :)
trooper

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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 15:43:28 -0400
reply-to:     h <hhusted@bu.edu>
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subject:      sigc: blurb in boston phoenix (butchies!)
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on p3 of the 8 days a week section, under "road tripping"

"it'll be interesting to see what fans of the indigo girls make of their
opening band the butchies, a trio led by kaia wilson, whose old band team
dresch were, before sleater-kinney came along, widely considered the finest
post-riot-grrl punk band in the land.  wilson's big on dyke
activism--witness her mr. lady video-and-record label--but will indigos
lovers have the stomach for the butchies, whose loud and snarling rock
mostly hews closer to dresch's aggression than to the folkie side of
things?  find out at the tsongas arena (931-200) in lowell this wednesday."

there's a wicked fricken cute picture of the butchy gals--they're in the
back of a pickup, leaning over the tailgate--sus, you'd fricken die--kaia's
hair looks all downy and puffy, and melissa is all nerdgrrlie cute as
usual.  it's so tiny tho, i don't know if it's worth a scan.

yay!!!!!  my three favorite bands in one sentence!  (td, sk, and ig)  i way
hope they play together--melissa would be a really cool drummer for the
igs, no?  i heart grrl drummers.

luv
h, giddy
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date:         fri, 1 oct 1999 16:02:03 edt
reply-to:     dschulman@aol.com
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from:         "d. schulman" <dschulman@aol.com>
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in a message dated 10/1/99 12:10:17 am, susan wrote:

<<i know it's not usually a good idea to dub commercial cds for people, but i
do intend to buy another copy of this one as soon as i can work up the extra
money.>>

not only is it not a good idea, it's not legal...  whatever the good
intentions.

dee (who really is still here, just lurking)

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"renee grebe" <rgrebe@insuremarket.com> wrote:
i'll be at the dc show...
is there a meeting up before the show of list people? ...

not yet! people, let's get on this!!! it'd be fun! and a shame to be in the
presence of fellow listees and not meet them....
-k

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joy davis <nomadsindians@webtv.net> wrote:
hi yall,

anyone figure out the chords to this ultra-cool song yet?      ~ janene

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subject:      nigc - rose p./erin mck. show 2night time change
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hey folks,

i called gettysburg college this morning, and the info desk told me the show
starts at 9 p.m. instead of 10p.m. (the rose polenzani/erin mckeown show at
the junction tonight.)

see ya there!

diane - the 5'4" asian chick with medium length black hair, who will try to
wear her nff t-shirt and jeans, and bring her 1200 curfews sweatshirt along.

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on fri, 1 oct 1999, d. schulman wrote:

> not only is it not a good idea, it's not legal...  whatever the good
> intentions.

   actually, (says the bitchy artists-rights person) it's legal to make a
single backup copy of your cd in case of destruction or loss or whatever
- that's protected fair use.
   now, copying it for her wouldn't be - but it is the same material, and
the net result is exactly the same.  she already bought it, after all...

   darius

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  - allegra geller, "existenz"

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yes, i was sooo sad when i found this wasn't going to be on cons.  does
anyone have a boot of boys just laugh?  if so respond privately please.  lots
of thoughts on cons.  i will organize and get thoughts together later.  right
now i can only think of the "surprise" weekend my gf has planned...something
about hot tub, hotel, strawberries and champagne....forgive me  ;)

toye

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in a message dated 10/1/99 4:42:54 pm, darius wrote:

<<   actually, (says the bitchy artists-rights person) it's legal to make a
single backup copy of your cd in case of destruction or loss or whatever -
that's protected fair use. >>

this is absolutely true, but i wasn't going to get too verbose about it,
confusing the issue.

<<   now, copying it for her wouldn't be - but it is the same material, and
the net result is exactly the same.  she already bought it, after all...>>
date: wed, 20 oct 1999 16:16:03 +0000
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i hafta disagree here.  even tho she has bought her own, she no longer has it
(had she made her own back-up she'd have no problem).  the fact is, she is
asking someone else to make the copy for her.  semantics, yes, but legal, no.

if anyone wants to discuss this, i'd be more than happy to do so privately.
i think darius makes a good point, i'm merely (once again <g>) disagreeing.

dee

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"in recent months, in afghanistan, at least five men convicted of sodomy by
teleban shiri'a courts have been placed next to standing walls by taleban
officials and then buried under the rubble as the walls were toppled upon
them"  -from an amnesty international petition.

saddened? disgusted? frightened?  write to:

his excellency riaz khokhar
ambassador
embassy of pakistan
2315 massachusettes ave nw
washington, dc 20008

and include in your letter:
"[i] strongly suggest that, as pakistan was the first country to recognize
the taleban government of afghanistan, and as amnesty international has urged
the taleban authorities to forbid the imposition of including amputations and
other forms of cruel, inhuman or degrading punishment in areas under their
control, and as the prohibition of mutilation, cruel treatment and torture is
part of customary international law and is recognized in common article 3 of
the geneva conventions which is binding on all parties in afghanistan, that
the government of pakistan express concern about these human rights abuses,
using your offices and influence with the taleban to ensure that such human
rights abuses are not repeated."

sorry for any typos!  writing a letter takes just a few minutes, and... why
are we alive if not to stand in solidarity with other human beings?  can you
really go about your day, watching t.v., shopping, doing homework, knowing
that this type of thing happens and not doing something minimal to try and
stop it?  write a petition and circulate it at your school or workplace, or
write one letter, make multiple copies of it, and have a different person
sign and mail each one.

emily

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couldn't afford it, but something told me to just, go, go, go and buy it.  i
did!  yee haw!  pure joy

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sorry for the ig break -
  for the pa michelle fans:

i called the place and here is all the info for
michelle's concert:
  michelle malone and jaime anderson (sp?) in concert
at "the wire" on sunday, october 10th.  the concert
will begin at 7 pm, tickets will go on sale between 6
and 6.30 pm that night.
  the concert is scheduled to start at 7 pm with
jaime.
directions are as follows:
  take i-81 to exit 19 (camp hill).  take this exit.
this will take you onto sr 581east.  drive straight
and this will turn into us 11north.  keep going
straight.  eventually, after about 5 min or so, you
will see a sign saying "i-83 n/s split ahead).  you
want to take i-83 north!  as soon as you take
i-83north, you will hit exit 21 - highland park.  take
this exit.
  at the stop sign make a left.  this will put you on
lowther road.  drive a block and a half and you will
come to a stop light.  at the light make a right onto
3rd street.  take 3rd street south - will turn into
bridge street (you are now in new cumberland).  you
will come to an intersection with a cvs (drug store)
on the right.  this is the bridge and 4th street
intersection.  make a left onto 4th street.  drive 1/2
block and there is "the wire."
  these are the directions they gave me. i will test
drive them this week to make sure i can find it.
  hope to see you there.

samantha


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for the record, i'm fully aware of the legality of copying a cd.  i'm also
aware of the legality of theft.  i didn't mean to cause trouble by asking
for help...

susan

on fri, 1 oct 1999, d. schulman wrote:

> in a message dated 10/1/99 4:42:54 pm, darius wrote:
>
> <<   actually, (says the bitchy artists-rights person) it's legal to make a
> single backup copy of your cd in case of destruction or loss or whatever -
> that's protected fair use. >>
>
> this is absolutely true, but i wasn't going to get too verbose about it,
> confusing the issue.
>
> <<   now, copying it for her wouldn't be - but it is the same material, and
> the net result is exactly the same.  she already bought it, after all...>>
>
> i hafta disagree here.  even tho she has bought her own, she no longer has it
> (had she made her own back-up she'd have no problem).  the fact is, she is
> asking someone else to make the copy for her.  semantics, yes, but legal, no.
>
> if anyone wants to discuss this, i'd be more than happy to do so privately.
> i think darius makes a good point, i'm merely (once again <g>) disagreeing.
>
> dee
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did anyone at all boot this concert?  sorry i missed
it - sounds awesome.  love to hear the banter... lol

samantha

--- luann buck <lbuck919@aol.com> wrote:
> ok, since no one else has commented, here's my
> review of last nights show in
> knoxville:
>
> set list:
>
> closer to fine   (yep, they opened with this one!)
> land of canaan
> trouble
> shame on you
> virginia woolf
> ozilline
> 10,000 wars
> gone again
> faye tucker
> andy
> power of two
> go
>
> encore:
>
> the wood song
> johnny rotten (i'm not sure about the title of this
> one, it was a solo by amy
> with her mandolin)
> galileo
>
> fashion report:
>
> amy: when she came out to introduce the opening act,
> (three finger cowboy)
> she was wearing khaki cargo pants and a black shirt
> with that red bowling
> shirt thing over it.  later when she came out with
> emily she was wearing a
> brown button up shirt and it looked like brown and
> white checked polyester
> pants with those blue suede boots/shoes (whichever).
>
> emily: she was wearing all black...black pants, black
> shirt, and a black
> button up shirt (unbuttoned) over the other black
> shirt...black shoes oh, and
> she had on that glittery eye shadow.
>
>
> the show was really cool and they talked quite a bit
> and danced and smiled,
> they seemed to be having a good time.  i was really
> surprised that they
> opened with closer to fine, makes me think they are
> getting tired of always
> closing with it.  the first two songs were just amy
> & emily without the band.
>
> amy broke her fingernail during trouble and kept
> trying to bite it off, so
> she finally turned around a got a piece of white
> tape and taped it.  during
> shame on you, amy messed up the guitar lead and just
> kinda stopped for a
> second and laughed and emily came over and looked at
> amy's fingers and kinda
> cheered her on so she finally played it right and
> they laughed, after the
> song was over amy said "oohhh  i blew the lead on
> that one"
>
> emily seemed to really like ozilline,  at the end
> she turned her face up
> toward the ceiling, shut her eyes and smiled as they
> sang 'what a blessed
> sky'... after the song she said that song is called
> ozilline, it is about amy's
> grandma.
>
> when emily introduced "andy" she said 'this song is
> about a girl who fell in
> love with a farm boy'...then she said 'anyone here
> ever loved a farm boy'...and
> the crowd just started cheering and laughing and
> emily said 'ahhh there's
> nothing like those farm boys!'...and amy said 'that
> right!'
>
> after "cold beer" emily said 'that's a new song
> about budweiser!'
>
> before "gone again" amy was trying to remember the
> chords and she said "just
> trying to make sure i'm not having a mental block"
> then she looked at emily
> and said "play real loud"
>
> amy played a song by herself, i think she called it
> the johnny rotten song
> (i'm really not sure)  but it is the song that you
> can hear her play a little
> of on cons just before 'compromise' with her
> mandolin.  it was some song
> about 'when i go over yonder i'm gonna see my mother
> my sister and my father,
> but not my brother cause he's going to hell...."  it
> was really a cool little
> song.  then they closed with galileo, amy said that
> it was the perfect song
> to follow the one she had just played.
>
> they played a lot of new songs but also,  a lot of
> old ones.  i was
> especially happy that they play "the wood song"  all
> in all it was one of the
> best shows i've seen.
>
> sorry about the long post....if you've made it this
> far that is really cool!
>
> luann
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well---i thought i would add to the reviews by showing you all the one that was in my school
paper today....i nearly let out a shriek and scared the professor when i saw it in the paper. i
was disappointed in the grade--they gave it a b+, but i thought it was a positive review and was
really happy that my school (who in my opinion has a pretty boring paper) focused on one of my
favorite groups. the web address is :

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/cvarticle.asp?date=oct+01+1999&id=903

if you have problems pulling it up, go to www.cavalierdaily.com and look it up under arts and
entertainment.

        my two cents on the cd----i really like the it, especially the first half!! i cannot
wait for the dc show.....has anyone figured out who the opening act is??? i hope it is 3fc.

also---one other thing. a while ago i found this site with someone's interpretations of ig
songs, and now i can't find it anywhere....i got my sister (she is 15) hooked on the group
(yeah!) and she wants to know what joking is about---i have no idea, so--if anyone could either
send me the web address, or tell me their interpretation, so i could give it to her, she would
be forever grateful.....

thanks for all the entertainment....hope you all have a really lovely day/night (karen all
the way over in japan)......now i shall return to lurkdom, meg

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hey...

>if anyone wants to discuss this, i'd be more than happy to do so privately.
>i think darius makes a good point, i'm merely (once again <g>) disagreeing.

actually... the way i read the us code (quoted below, and taken from
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2319a.html )
the key words would be 'for the purposes of commercial advantage or private
financial gain'.

so, given the topic of discussion, if you copied the new indigo girls cd and
gave it away you would not be committing an offence.

although, i might add, i'm not a lawyer...

let me know what you think!

neil
@}--,--'---

sec. 2319a. unauthorized fixation of and trafficking in sound recordings and
music
videos of live musical performances

     (a) offense. - whoever, without the consent of the performer or
performers involved,
     knowingly and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial
gain -
          (1) fixes the sounds or sounds and images of a live musical
          performance in a copy or phonorecord, or reproduces copies or
          phonorecords of such a performance from an unauthorized fixation;
          (2) transmits or otherwise communicates to the public the
          sounds or sounds and images of a live musical performance; or
          (3) distributes or offers to distribute, sells or offers to
          sell, rents or offers to rent, or traffics in any copy or
          phonorecord fixed as described in paragraph (1), regardless of
          whether the fixations occurred in the united states; shall be
imprisoned for not
          more than 5 years or fined in the amount set forth in this title,
or both, or if the
          offense is a second or subsequent offense, shall be imprisoned for
not more than 10
          years or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both.

abi's page!!! http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/abi/abi.html
this week, neil 'as been mostly been listening to:
ferron - 'the ima sessions', a little fairgound atraction; george gershwin
'piano rolls'; james brown 'star time (box)'
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ok, i hate doing this, but i rec'd a cd in the mail,
the sots ep, and love it.  i wanted to send a little
thank you to the person who made it for me, but stupid
me, i lost their address and name.
  i apologize, and if you would be so kind, please
email me and let me know where to send my thank you.
  s.


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---jill wrote:

> it's on the compilation disc "ain't nothin' but a
she thing,"
> which features many rocking chicas.

including melissa etheridge's version of the weakness
in me on piano (i personally prefer the girls on
guitar) and luscious jackson doing 69 annee erotique,
all in french!

after i left the puter yesterday, i remembered
something else i saw at the studio yesterday.  it was
in the indigo girls vinyl section (they have their own
divider card that made me happy) and it was called
"indigo girls live."  it wasn't back on the bus, y'all
(they had that one too though.  on vinyl.).  i
remember melissa was one of the songs on it, and the
only thing i can think of that melissa is on is shades
of indigo, but it wasn't that either.  i tried going
to the ig discography (that deb hosts, right?), but it
was all screwed up.  anybody know what this is?

lori ann


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the new indigo girls album, come on now social, has just
been released! their seventh full-length epic album, come
on now social is as bold, reflective, original, brave,
funny, angry, heartbreaking and groundbreaking as the work
that made the indigo girls famous in the first place. make
sure you get a copy!

come sample all of the new tracks at the brand new indigo
girls site! the completely redesigned site contains new
audio, bio and extras like screen savers, wallpaper and
postcards. check it out now:
http://www.indigogirlsonline.com/

the indigo girls are currently on tour. they've just added
some new dates, here's the latest schedule:
september 29    birmingham, al      jefferson civ. ctr.
september 30    knoxville, tn       civic auditorium
october 2   davidson, nc        baker sports complex
october 4 & 5   upper darby, pa     tower theater
october 6   lowell, ma      paul e. tsongas arena
october 7   syracuse, ny        landmark theater
october 8   fairfax, va     patriot center
october 10  hanover, nh     dartmouth college
october 11,12,13new york, ny        beacon theater
october 15  asbury park, nj     convention hall
october 16  amherst, ma     mullins center
october 22  athens, ga      university of georgia
october 23  orlando         hard rock
october 24  mobile, al      usa mitchell center
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>from: leslie holeman <lholeman@mail.geron.com>
>

>a verse in trouble popped out at me as completely hopeless, which is a different feel for the girls.
>as i read "someday the war will stop and we'll have a peaceful crop, and a girl can get a wife",
>i thought: cool--typical emily sense of hope in a really messed up world, and then i read "and we can bring you back to life"
>.....wait, um, that verse isn't so hopeful now is it?  that last line seems to imply that all of the above is completely impossible.  >of course, i guess it can be interpreted as saying something like "these are the things i really wish could happen"
>with no implication of if they can or not.  i can't decide which way to look at it

i took it to mean that she's pointing out the difference between future technological progress (when you'll be able to bring people back to life, when we'll be able to to take a walk on pluto) vs. social progress (when a girl can get a wife).  lots of time people think _everything_ is getting better all the time, that all progress is inevitable.  they take signs of progress and "evolution" on a techniological front front, for example, as evidence that things are getting better and "evolving" socially.  she's saying that they're separate tracks of development, that one can happen and yet we can still "be no closer to the [social] understanding".

i don't necessarily take the song to be her saying that it's not going to happen, just that she's "in a hurry to get through it".
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there was an interview with amy ray in duke university's student
newspaper, the chronicle, today.  here is the url:

http://www.chronicle.duke.edu/chronicle/1999/10/01/r05indigogirl.html

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greetings indigo ones,

    first of all let me start out by apologizing to anyone who might not
agree with me, it is just my opinion.
    dont get me wrong. i have just about everything the girls have ever
recorded. i love them dearly, i probably love amy even more then "jenny".
although, i must be honest about this cd.
    i like all the songs on cons ....but...it's so over produced that the
sweet indigo harmonies are lost.   i totally agree with marie! it just sounds
like another top 40 cd. their voices are so filtered that   1.amy's
individuality voice wise has been smoothed out & gone.  2. emily's sweet
calming uniqueness that i love so much, has been blended into the sound of
the music & gone.
    i'm saddened, i'm sure i'll get over it in time. but i am adamant in my
thoughts of down with john reynolds!!!

sorry, it's just how i feel  :(

danielle in nyc
p.s. i hope my nightmares of indigo girls "top 40 band" arent coming
true.......i'll never sleep again.

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hi y'all~
    i got the album on wednesday and am now getting a change to post my
reactions to it... at first when i listened to the album i admit i was a bit
scared... i think i was expecting something more mellow than this, er...
punkiefolkie? i guess that has to do with me only hearinf peace tonight and
gone again on the radio... anyways... punkish rockish stuff isn't my thing
but i think this is growing on me. truthfully i like the girls' older stuff
better and i honestly didn't sense the connection that they once had in their
music on this album... compare it to like nis or something... they had a
connection that i could feel through the music but i'm not sensing this on
cons.... maybe i'm just totally whacked out and have no idea what i'm saying
or does anyone else feel the same way? anyways, what i think i'm trying to
say is cons isn't on my fav. ig albums list. however, some of the lyrics are
awesome!!!
later!
peace (tonight?)
alyssa

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hey! i got one extra ticket for this show. i paid $75 each ticket for great
seats.
section iii floor
row  1
seat 3-6

the highest bidder gets the ticket.
email me if your are interested.
thanks!
forever indigo,
marie

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does anyone have any thoughts on what "healing the then" means?  is
it so obvious that i'm missing it?

i've tried to sort through the millions of recent e-mails to see if
this has been discussed already but couldn't find anything in what
i've gone through so far. so if it's been explained already, i'm
sorry for missing it and could somebody e-mail me with a clue? ;)
thanks,
~renee

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"the past tempts us, the present confuses us, and
the future frightens us, and our lives slip away,
  moment by moment, lost in that vast terrible in-between.
  but there is still time to seize that one last fragile
  moment, to choose something better, to make a difference,
as you say...."
-centauri emperor turhan, babylon 5

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here's an interesting excerpt from the amy interview:

can you explain the title of your new album, come on now social? it was
somewhat obscure to me...

that's because we don't really know what it means!  we got it out of a song
that i wrote that's not on the record.

what song is that?

a song called "measure of me." we're not really sure what it means because
it's supposed to evoke this idea of finding your place in the world and
asking the world to accept you in that place. so there's a little bit of
activism involved in it but there's also a little bit of society-there's
really completely opposite meanings in it. that's why we can't really
explain it.  we want people to take what they want from it.

peace,
tim

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hello to all y'all, ya'll, you all, and especially yous,
    i have a quick question ... yesterday i received two tickets to the view
on october 15th.  before my little heart beats itself to death, does anyone
know if this is the show that the girls are going to be playing at, or, if
the 15th is simply the date the previously taped show will be aired.  ah!
the possibilities...  thanks for your help!

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in a message dated 10/1/99 7:26:34 am pacific daylight time,
neily@netreach.net writes:

<< > anyone know what sort of vehicle emily drives?

yes, with a but...

a) i forget the type (it was a silver convertable, i think)
b) i saw in an interview she drives something else (as well/instead?) >>


wasn't there a big fight on the list a while ago about em's car?  it went on
for a looong time, from what i remember. i thought it was red, but she could
have gotten a new car by now...

pax, celeste:)

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<< there was an interview with amy ray in duke university's student
newspaper, the chronicle, today.  here is the url:

http://www.chronicle.duke.edu/chronicle/1999/10/01/r05indigogirl.html >>

go, go, go read this article!  it's nice to read an interview and learn
something new.  amy has interesting things to say about the song formerly
known as "boys just laugh," reggae, mp3s and southern fans.  :o)

peace!

joan :-d

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has anybody in the vancouver bc area managed to get their mitts on cons?
i've called a&b, virgin, future shop and they all say "next tuesday" and
"gee we're getting a lot of people asking about that", well duh. grumble
grumble.

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love it.

didn't like sots. it still hasn't grown on me-- i barely play it. i don't
care what anyone says- ulali drives me bonkers, so i can't stand anything
they sing on.

this one's gonna get heavy rotation. it's way different from anyhing
earlier-- the em songs are beautiful. i like the folksy/bluesy notes. i
miss all the harmonies, but i like this too. some songs are a bit
overproduced, but overall i enjoy it greatly.

something i have noticed- i think the songs are a bit more internally
repetitive than usual. and they use dialogue-between-tracks, a la lauryn
hill. and i wish pilosophy of loss was a separate track.

'kay, that's it.

em

p.s. not only are the girls playing 2 shows where i used to live (l.a.,)
but they are playing in the theater across the way from where my mom lives
in wa. and not coming anywhere near the state i just moved to. indiana sucks.

j/k all you hoosiers :)

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hey folks,

this was sent to the news list but is more appropriate for here
instead.  please direct your replies to the original sender at
janedoe882@hotmail.com - thanks...

-sherlyn

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>subject: savannah boot??
>date: fri, 01 oct 1999 10:40:17 edt
>
>hey everyone,
>
>
>i was just wondering if anyone happened to boot the savannah show. it was so
>awesome...i just have to have it.
>
>thanks,
>
>danielle
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hey folks,

i have random thoughts regarding the new album...

i) if "peace tonight" were sung an octave or so higher, it would
sound just like a beegees song.

ii) amy still says "melbourne" wrong.

:)
sherlyn
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  but the way i feel tonight, it's like i'm already there..."
                                - lucy kaplansky

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hey folks,

>from the news-only list...

-sherlyn

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>date: fri, 1 oct 1999 11:29:21 -0700
>from: elizabeth <esacha@mindspring.com>
>subject: [ig-news] tix sale dates for sf shows
>
>hkf~
>
>i called bass today about the nov 6th & 8th shows.
>tickets for the 6th @ berkeley community theater go on sale oct 3rd.
>there is no sale date for the 8th @ the warfield.
>
>when i talked to a guy at the warfield they didn't even have ig on their
>list -- he said the show was probably still in the process of being
>confirmed ...
>
>~elizabeth
>
>
>somebody said:  work like you don't need the money.
>love like you've never been hurt.  dance like nobody's watching.

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hi folks,

this is the philadelphia city paper article that stephanie
mentioned...

-sherlyn

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twenty-five years after they met as 10-year-old atlanta schoolgirls,
amy ray and emily saliers are still finding new ways to have fun.
this time out, it's with a group of british musicians (including
sinead o'connor's drummer/ex-husband john reynolds) and yanks
including me'shell ndegeocello, joan osborne and sheryl crow.

the resulting cd, come on now social (sony), "manages to sound very
much like us but very much not like us, too," as ray puts it.

"i think the record sounds like the indigo girls in ways the last
couple of records might not have," ray, 35, says on the phone from
atlanta. "at the same time, people hear it and say, 'it's really
different. you sound like you really got it this time.'"

the "it" in question, ray says, is a "kinship vibe" that came from
working with "a fantastic and diverse" group of like-minded
musicians, spearheaded by reynolds, whom the duo met during last
year's lilith fair. they ended up in london for a few weeks,
jamming with reynolds and members of his side band, ghostland. the
ghostland crew came to the states earlier this year to continue
working with ray and saliers, and a few have stayed on for the
upcoming tour.

come on now social - like all of the indigos' albums - veers
between the personal and the political. the title, ray says, in
itself is a rallying cry for iconoclasts.

"it's about those questions we ask of ourselves: how do you find
your place in the world? how do you become part of a community?
how can you make a difference? and the answer is, of course, by
getting out and doing it."

-nicole pensiero

the indigo girls, mon. and tue., oct. 4 and 5, 8 p.m., tower
theater, 69th and ludlow sts., upper darby, $36, 215-336-2000.

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hey kind friends,

this is a call to anyone who is familiar with either one of these venues.
could you please e-mail me privately regarding the layout, past concert
experiences at either place and/or advice on getting a decent seat?

i know absolutely nothing about either venue but hope to see both and have
saved the money to (hopefully) get as close in as possible.

any and all help/guidance/suggestion is enormously appreciated,

thanks,
katherine

<< i called bass today about the nov 6th & 8th shows.
>tickets for the 6th @ berkeley community theater go on sale oct 3rd.
>there is no sale date for the 8th @ the warfield.
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renee carson <rcarson@rohan.sdsu.edu> wrote:
does anyone have any thoughts on what "healing the then" means?  is
it so obvious that i'm missing it?

i've tried to sort through the millions of recent e-mails to see if
this has been discussed already but couldn't find anything in what
i've gone through so far. so if it's been explained already, i'm
sorry for missing it and could somebody e-mail me with a clue? ;)
thanks,
~renee

i think it just means 'healing' an event from the past.... like a breakup or
something like that. she's healing "now", or dealing with a current reality...
in comparison with what used to be a reality 'then'. hence, 'healing the
then'- or getting over what used to be... it's really really late, i hope im
making sense!
-k


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hey folks,

here is the amy interview that heather mentioned, from the duke university
chronicle...

-sherlyn

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indigo girl

the indigo girls are currently on tour, promoting their new album come on now
social. before their raleigh concert last sunday, recess senior editor norbert
schürer had the opportunity to sit down with half of the duo:


norbert schürer - amy ray

can you explain the title of your new album, come on now social? it was
somewhat obscure to me...

that's because we don't really know what it means! we got it out of a song
that
i wrote that's not on the record.

what song is that?

a song called "measure of me." we're not really sure what it means because
it's
supposed to evoke this idea of finding your place in the world and asking the
world to accept you in that place. so there's a little bit of activism
involved
in it but there's also a little bit of society-there's really completely
opposite meanings in it. that's why we can't really explain it. we want people
to take what they want from it.

one line in the song "go" really struck me: "rock is cool, but the struggle is
better."

that line came to me after listening to a lot of reggae music for a couple of
days. then i was walking in the east village in new york, and all of a
sudden i
went, "rock is cool, but the struggle is better." it's just the idea that it's
really cool to be able to play music and stuff, but sometimes it's more
important and it feels more solid to be doing something for the world.

you're doing both of those, of course. is this a call to your audience to
go out
and be activists?

yeah! it's like saying this is really cool, and we could all get caught up in
this, and it's really fun to have a good time. but the struggle is even
cooler.
i mean, r.e.m. is cool, but what they do with their money is cooler. because
kids, and we as adults who are still kids, i think, get caught up in how to be
cool and what's cool, you know. and sometimes you feel the struggle is
cool, but
rock is better. i feel both ways some time.

the album as a whole: in what sense is it new or old, musically?

i think there are lot of things that are very reminiscent of really early
indigo. i don't know if it's because there is a lot of appalachan sort of
banjo
and mandolin stuff on there and there are some serious ballads that are pretty
acoustic. but then the newness of it is maybe in the rhythm and in the bass
area,
and maybe a little bit of just what it sounds like. every little thing makes a
difference. there's something really organic about the record, but there's
also
something really exact about it-like all the rhythms and stuff (except for
"compromise," which was recorded in a completely different way, and "gone
again," which was recorded live as well).

you were in cuba in march and worked on "compromise" there, didn't you?

we did it as a musical exchange. someone asked us to go down there, and it was
the best opportunity to go to cuba legally, basically, and have free rein
of all
these musicians and art. [then] we did a kind of a latin version [of
"compromise"] with a band down there. i recorded it on a dat player. you're
not
allowed to use any of the recordings you get down there because of the
embargo.
you can release them on computer.

how about putting that on mp3?

i have to go listen to it because i don't know how [good it is].

has the development of mp3s influenced your work at all?

it has influenced what epic and sony want to do, i guess, but i don't think
about
it much. i think the computer is a frontier in a way. for mainstream america,
it's relatively untapped, compared to what it's going to be-and unregulated,
which i think is great. i mean, record companies are worried that they're
going to
lose money, and distribution systems are worried that they're going to be
obsolete, and i think we just have to say that's ok. believe it or not, it
makes
live performance that much more special, because the record company is
going to
have to start realizing that the cd they're used to selling is becoming not
as big
of a commodity, because people can download it. it's good for independent
artists,
too. it's a way to get your stuff out there.

is latin music something you're interested in?

emily [saliers, the other indigo girl] is more than i am, probably. i mean,
it's
way out of my league, technically. i cannot even imagine being able to play
some of
that stuff or even approach it. so for that reason it's like not knowing the
language to me. but i like it a lot. it's mind-blowing. i have so much
respect for
it. i like to dance to it, but i sit at my guitar, i'm, like, ok, i know five
date: wed, 20 oct 1999 16:16:03 +0000
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chords-i can't do this.

how do you get along with emily after so many years of working together?

we just give each other a lot of space, honestly. it's kind of like our
primary
relationship. it's so funny, because it's lasted for so long.

but you're both seeing other people.

we've never actually been together sexually, ever, and never even thought of
it-that's probably why we're together still.

how does working in the studio compare to being out here on the road again?
this
is your second or third concert on this tour, right?

our third. we were on lilith, but it was a slightly different band, so this is
really new. it's nice to play live, because once you let go of it, it's
gone. the
studio is very exact and intense, and it doesn't feel as free as you want
it to
eel a lot of times. and when you're playing live, you do a lot of things
you might
not normally do. then you may regret some of them later, but, whatever...

what's it like touring in the south?

we love touring the south, actually. the south is crazier than any other
area we
tour, everything about it. the fans are different in the south, it's a little
crazier sometimes.

in what sense?

just a little rowdier sometimes. people sneak backstage a lot more in the
south,
things like that. so there are always these kind of weird things that are
happening.

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 15:50:33 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

here is the cavalier daily (university of virginia) article that meg
mentioned...

-sherlyn

---begin article---
indigo girls change hue with daring new disc

by rachel alberico
cavalier daily associate editor

in a time when manufactured bubblegum pop artists dominate the airwaves,
it is nice to know that two folksy chicks from georgia still know how to rock.

in their seventh and most recent album "come on now social," the indigo
girls prove that music goes beyond 17-year-old barbie clones who can
dance. breaking the commercial mold that seems to churn out new acts
daily, the indigo girls achieve success by being defiantly unique.

amy ray and emily saliers began playing together in the early 1980s. well
known for songs such as "closer to fine" and "galileo," the indigo girls have
been an influential fixture in the music industry. now, after two years
without a new album, the duo is back with a diverse array of music that
explores different sounds.

>from bluegrass-inspired ballads to hard rock guitar riffs, "come on now
social" constantly switches gears, providing a well-rounded blend of vocal
styles and instrumentation. the album features fellow lillith fair artists
sheryl crow and joan osborne as backup vocalists in addition to guest
bassist me'shell ndegeocello. the guests offer a reflection of the mood
prevalent in the album as well as the new openness of the pair to different
styles.

the disc begins with the uncharacteristically harsh "go," featuring heavy
electric guitar riffs and subtle backing vocals by osborne. its darker sound
contributes to the aggressive lyrics, but lightens up along with more
optimistic
language during the chorus. ray's emotional intensity is effective in giving
the song its unique personality - her lyrics obviously mean something to her.
"did they tell you it was set in stone/that you'd end up alone/use your years
to psyche you out/you're too old to care/you're too young to count," ray
shouts with an i-want-to-change-the-world attitude.

"soon to be nothing" is a more typical indigo girls song, but despite the
stylistic similarities, it still has an original feel. sharply contrasting
to the
harshness of the previous song, saliers addresses fears of death in this
melancholy, but soothing melody. the poetic language of this mellow second
track also displays saliers' lyrical talent.

"gone again" has a grass roots flavor and a more folksy feeling. saliers
showcases her banjo playing skills - revealing the bluegrass influence present
in the album - as well as a whistling segment that adds to the song's
improvisational feel. the track also contains backing vocals from crow and
incorporates a kazoo into the percussion.

another of the disc's diverse selections, "peace tonight," offers a more
upbeat track. the song opens with a cheerful horn intro reminiscent of the
songs that your parents danced to.

"faye tucker," a twangy narrative about the execution of a texas woman on
death row, provides the closest example of pure country music on the disc.
incorporating instruments such as cellos and accordions, the track gives
listeners another glimpse into ray's unique songwriting skills. the last track
on the cd, the song stands out as an intentionally thought-provoking piece.

long-time indigo girls fans may be surprised by the changes in the new
album. in this case, however, change is just another way of demonstrating
the evolution of the duo's eclectic talent.

grade: b+

this paper was published on 10/1/99 by the cavalier daily, inc., at the
university of virginia.

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 00:46:53 -0700
reply-to:     the dog caught up with the rabbit <sgb29641@csun.edu>
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on fri, 1 oct 1999, renee carson wrote:

> does anyone have any thoughts on what "healing the then" means?  is
> it so obvious that i'm missing it?

sounds to me as if it just means healing the past.  you know, as in "that
was then, this is now."

on a side note, i really like that line . . . kinda catches me offguard
and makes me think about it again.  it's the significance of "right over
left" that sticks me.

        battle on,
        shanie
        (emily advocate; gabfan; dedicated champion of the underrated blonde)
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and poke them so full of holes!"  -- kerry stuart in "tropical storm," by
melissa good

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 06:09:01 -0500
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hello all,

        if you're taking the time to read this, thanks!

        i'm in search of some info on janet munson (or monson, or monsen) not
sure how to spell her last name.  i do know she's a canadian artist.

        also on a group called "vested interest" also canadian.

        any information on either of these would be so appreciated!


        thanks a bunch!
        jules

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 06:14:14 pdt
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hey there y'all--
ok, so i like sister just a little too much.  it's a good thing that all the
songs on cons aren't so fun and depressing, or i'd have to throw myself out
of a window.  you know, so depressing it feels good--and i know you know
what i mean.  anyway, 2 things about the song:

1) tuning and chords??  please please...
2) i've got to figure out what emily's saying in the 2nd verse...i got the
first part about the baby at my breast, but what's the other line?  any
ideas?

peace,
kelly

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 09:21:30 -0400
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just found out that i have an extra ticket for the davidosn show today.  =
lemme know privately if anyone is interested.

kimcb

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 09:44:04 +0000
reply-to:     kelly fairbairn <fairbk@sage.edu>
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from:         kelly fairbairn <fairbk@sage.edu>
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on wed, 29 sep 1999, rick b sayre wrote:

> in a message dated 9/29/99 4:16:59 pm eastern daylight time,
> shannonmast@hotmail.com writes:
>
> > for god's sake, 8
> >  years ago, all i listened to was new kids on the f****** block! ;) (how
> many
> >  of you sympathize? c'mon, raise your hands, you know you're out there!)
>
> um. guilty.
>

count me as a former fanatic. yikes!  it's a good thing my musical tastes
have changed!

funny story:

rose polenzani played here in albany a week ago, and she said she couldn't
focus through most of her set.  second to last song, she said the
reason why she was so distracted was because she was reading the nkotb
biography that was laying around the cafe while she was eating dinner--it
brought back a few too many memories for her comfort. she referred to joey
joe a few times, and dedicated the next song to him, though for the life
of me i can't remember what song it was!

kelly,
she of crs.

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 07:57:35 -0600
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hey kids,
don't feel too bad. some of us are old enough to have bad bee gee flashbacks
every now and then. and i listened to them pretty much right up til i got into
the clash.

youth is a complicated time...

kc
"too much processing and you get velveeta"
                                                - vr5

kelly fairbairn wrote:

> on wed, 29 sep 1999, rick b sayre wrote:
>
> > in a message dated 9/29/99 4:16:59 pm eastern daylight time,
> > shannonmast@hotmail.com writes:
> >
> > > for god's sake, 8
> > >  years ago, all i listened to was new kids on the f****** block! ;) (how
> > many
> > >  of you sympathize? c'mon, raise your hands, you know you're out there!)
> >
> > um. guilty.
> >
>
> count me as a former fanatic. yikes!  it's a good thing my musical tastes
> have changed!
>
> funny story:
>
> rose polenzani played here in albany a week ago, and she said she couldn't
> focus through most of her set.  second to last song, she said the
> reason why she was so distracted was because she was reading the nkotb
> biography that was laying around the cafe while she was eating dinner--it
> brought back a few too many memories for her comfort. she referred to joey
> joe a few times, and dedicated the next song to him, though for the life
> of me i can't remember what song it was!
>
> kelly,
> she of crs.
>
> %^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%
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again, ill re-post.  i have two free tickets to the davidson show today.. we
are leaving right now, but will be in line all day.. if you need them, look
for me (5'2", blond hair, blue eyes, 19 yrs old).  two people will be with
me.  both of the same height and age, one with light brown hair the other
with really dark brown hair.  see you at the show!
:)

trooper

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in a message dated 9/30/99 6:29:59 am pacific daylight time,
prochoicer@gurlmail.com writes:

<< anyway, we had a whole full day ahead of us planned.  and there was no way
in hell that i could wait till i got home to listen to the cd.  so we were
going to den den town, and i really did need a new cd disc-woman anyway, and
electronics are super cheap there, so i decided to buy a new cd player (it is
a light shade of indigo!!!) so that i didn't have to wait to hear the cd.  so
yeah, you knowyou're obsessed with ig when...you buy a new cd player cause
you can't wait to hear the cd (i did need a new one anyway).  >>

i have stayed quiet and just listened to all of your reviews but i had to
laugh at this one because i did the same darn thing. tuesday morning my g/f
and i dropped the kids off at school and headed for fred meyers ('cuz it was
all that was open at 7am) with the sole purpose of buying cons.  of course
they did not have it on the shelf yet so i asked the guy about it and he
pulled it out of a box.  anyhow, we had some errands to run and my old junk
cd player mysteriously had some kinda sticky  liquid spilled into it ( i say
mysteriously 'cuz none of my children would admitt to doin it..musta been the
same creature who comes into their rooms and plays with their toys and
doesn't put them away 'cuz of course they don't know how their rooms get
messed up either!)  soooo i walk over to the "disk- womans"( i like that
term) and start wishin to my g/f that mine didn't get messed up cuz i just
can not wait till mid afternoon to listen to my cd and how we need to listen
to it on a little road trip! so she, being the one with all the money in the
family, suggest we get a new one for our car and she buys me the nicest
one.....then we look at batteries and decide its time we go with rechargables
and end up also buying the recharger.  just so we could listen to cons! wich
was well worth it...

the cd is awesome i love it! my g/f who likes the girls but not quite like i
do says i am wearing it out already. (she's still stuck in the early 80's
alternative somewhere)

i think philosophy of loss touches me most cuz i can relate to it. when i was
18 i did a crazy thing and ran off and married my youth pastor.  9 years and
a few kids later we called it quites and i finally decided to be true to
myself and found my wonderful g/f 3 years ago. anyhow being a youth pastors
wife for soo long teaching sunday school, organizing childrens crafts for
vacation bible school, drivin church vans and just totally being open to
being a servant in our church.... most of my friends were other people in the
church.  now they totally have shunned me.  my g/f mom, being the wonderful
christian woman she is, treats me as though i am pure evil
and keeps me from their family affairs and such. holidays are not easy. she
said to accept me and her daughter as a couple would be accepting that our
lifestyle is ok and would be doing her god a great injustice!  i sat in my
car and cried like a baby when i heard that song.  i was a wreck (and i do
not cry easily it kinda scared my g/f)  thank you emily for writing such a
touching song.  even though some people may feel like it is hard on the
church..it is true of so many churches out their and it needed to be said!
(getting all emotional again)

i know this is long thank you for listening to me. i did not intend to go on
like this. i may as well add this though...soon to be nothing reminds me of a
lullabye...it gave me the idea that maybe the girls should think about doing
an album of the sort.  hmmm who wouldn't love to be sung to sleep by those
angel voices!  my baby was sick the other day and it put her to sleep she
kept askin me to repeat that one.  she calls it "her" song when it plays now.

thanks all!
tena

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 12:04:08 edt
reply-to:     shannon mast <shannonmast@hotmail.com>
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hey all,

someone was asking about the lost indicated... i guess i'm the lost
bethany's spokesperson, so here goes:

right about the time beth was starting to put the final tape together, she
transferred colleges and was moving a lot--in short, her life was just very
transitional, and she never got around to doing the tape. she feels really
bad--she tells me that almost every time i talk to her. so she apologizes,
and if some of y'all want your stuff back, let me know and i can let her
know.

also, i was going through some old list emails and came across the infamous
miss-herd list. for those of you who've joined the list recently, we
compiled a list of all the ig lyrics that people had understood incorrectly.
here's an example:

most often misheard line:
*real line: "the same sun that warms your heart will suck that good earth
dry." (get out the map, sots)
*misheard as: "the same sun that warms your heart will suck that gutter
dry."

two questions:

1. does anyone still want a copy of this list?  email me at
shannonmast@valkyrie.net and i'll send you one.

2. is there any interest in doing another miss-herd lyrics list for the new
album?  or does anyone have additions to the old list?  if so, send 'em to
me at the above email address, and i'll add them to the old list.

that's all!

shannon


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will someone please e-mail me privately with the times and dates the indigo girls will be on tv?  i need to remind  my mom and friends to record everything for me!

:-) karen

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 13:36:17 -0400
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this is also, if i am correct, the same jennifer baumgardner that amy
thanks first in the liner notes to the new album.

susan

at 03:19 pm 9/30/99 -0500, you wrote:
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>check out the septemeber issue of z magazine.  there is a good article
>about women's music written by jennifer baumgardner.  for those who don't
>know, ms. baumgardner is an excellent feminist journalist who was an
>associate editor of ms. and now does freelance work.  i'm never
>disappointed in her writing.  anyway, there is a paragraph about daemon and
>amy is interviewed, albeit briefly.  no pictures.
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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 13:42:00 -0400
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hey...

>right about the time beth was starting to put the final tape together, she
>transferred colleges and was moving a lot--in short, her life was just very
>transitional, and she never got around to doing the tape. she feels really
>bad--she tells me that almost every time i talk to her. so she apologizes,
>and if some of y'all want your stuff back, let me know and i can let her
>know.

alternatively, i'm putting together a new, improved indicated, so get them
sent to me and i'll add them to my growing collection of list versions of
indigo girls songs...

keep 'em coming folks...

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'piano rolls'; james brown 'star time (box)'
song o' the week: 'god bless the child' - billie holiday

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 10:53:55 -0700
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subject:      re: "healing the then"/right over left
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thanks to all that responded to my question. i think y'all are
correct. healing the past...i've been studying too much.

you're right, "right over left" is bugging me now. it sounds like a
regular phrase so i didn't stop to think about it. what do we do
that's "right over left?" we fold things, tie things, cross things,
but in the context of this song...i don't know. this is going to
drive me nuts now ;)

i just got 4th row seats for the halloween show!  i'm so excited :)
~renee

at 12:46 am -0700 10/2/99, the dog caught up with the rabbit wrote:
>on fri, 1 oct 1999, renee carson wrote:
>
> > does anyone have any thoughts on what "healing the then" means?  is
> > it so obvious that i'm missing it?
>
>sounds to me as if it just means healing the past.  you know, as in "that
>was then, this is now."
>
>on a side note, i really like that line . . . kinda catches me offguard
>and makes me think about it again.  it's the significance of "right over
>left" that sticks me.
>
>        battle on,
>        shanie

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 14:12:23 -0400
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i think she is using it as a term to describe "after having left".  i also
have spent a lot of time dissecting this song as it really has appropriate
meaning in my life at the present and have come to feel it is comparable to
"closer to fine".  why?  i always think ctf is like when people ask you
...not really caring the answer's outcome "how are you ?" and people simply
(knowing it is a courteous question...not one out of genuine concern) reply
"fine"...while we are not really fine.  i think stbn is like when somebody
asks "what's wrong" and not wanting to go into it all we just say "nothing",
when it's really our whole world is about to cave in on us.  i think she's
saying i'll be over it and will be able to answer "nothing" and really mean
at some point in time.

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 11:32:44 pdt
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hey all those who want to have a list-meet at philly,

just for consensus' sake, let's plan to meet after the show (and post-show
of scrambling for guitar picks and the shopping for merchandise), and i will
be hovering by neil and holding up some sort of list-related sign like:
nigc, igc, intimate strangers, cons, or something!  this will be for the
monday meet.  for tuesday, it's up to the listees/y'all if you'd like to
meet again (or for the first time).

see ya there (romper room music cue) neily, anna, steph, andy, jilly c.,
jill s., and you!

diane

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 14:34:20 +0000
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hello!

i was just nosing around e-bay, and someone is selling cds of pictures and
.wav files.  anyway, there's a couple of examples of what you're supposed
to get (i hope they aren't supposed to be the best ones, because even i
can take a picture without my thumb in it!).  for those of you
unfortunate enough not to have witnessed ms. ray in a black tank top at
newport, there's a lovely shot of her there.  i only downloaded one and
i've got it posted on my boot list here:

http://www.angelfire.com/nys/kellysbootlist/index.html

i went back to e-bay and they weren't there anymore, but here's this one
at least!

kelly

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 14:45:49 -0400
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hey...

>just for consensus' sake, let's plan to meet after the show (and post-show
>of scrambling for guitar picks and the shopping for merchandise), and i
will
>be hovering by neil and holding up some sort of list-related sign like:
>nigc, igc, intimate strangers, cons, or something!  this will be for the
>monday meet.  for tuesday, it's up to the listees/y'all if you'd like to
>meet again (or for the first time).

umm... i'll be the one running away from the crazy sign wielding person...
(i was trying to think how "i'll be the one hovering by neil" would help
people but drawing a blank).

neil will be the shy* english guy, probably with some kind or earring and/or
mupped related t-shirt. oh, and i'll be carrying a sheep (it's a long story,
but i bet you'll know it's me).

so my question now is: where after the show?

in fact, goshdarnit, i'll be hanging around in the space between the
bathroom entrances before the show too, probably looking like a lemon if i'm
on my own, but nevertheless, carrying a sheep. don't laugh.

going to see rose p and richard shindell at the tin angel tonight in philly
(early show) if anyone else is and wants to say 'hi'...

neil
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*shy at first, becoming louder and more annoying as time goes on...

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carter celebrates 75th birthday

.c the associated press

by elliott minor

americus, ga. (ap) - wearing a tuxedo and his trademark toothy grin, former
president jimmy carter was in a jovial mood as he celebrated his 75th
birthday with about 800 well-wishers.

''i'm glad i made it,'' carter quipped during friday night's festivities.
''i've never had a better time in my life.''

the birthday bash at the historic rylander theatre in americus, just 12 miles
east of carter's hometown of plains, included performances by pat boone and
the indigo girls, a giant birthday cake and healthy helpings of anecdotes
about carter's days in the white house.

<<<<<<<<<<<snip>>>>>>>>>

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does the opening of cold beer and remote control remind anyone else of patty
griffin?  (specifically, her flaming red album.)  i swear, the first time i
played the song i got so confused for a second and thought i was listening
to patty.

my 3 favorite songs on cons are go, ozilline, and faye tucker.  the first
few times i listened i really couldn't get into most of emily's songs.  now
all except for andy are starting to grow on me, but i really think this is
an amy album.  overall, i love the album, but the songs just don't have the
same feeling as hearing them live.  i suppose that's always the case for
them, but after going to a few liliths and bumbershoot i'm kinda
disappointed in the production on the album.

liz

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on sat, 2 oct 1999, renee carson wrote:

> you're right, "right over left" is bugging me now. it sounds like a
> regular phrase so i didn't stop to think about it. what do we do
> that's "right over left?" we fold things, tie things, cross things,
> but in the context of this song...i don't know. this is going to
> drive me nuts now ;)

i'm discussing it with a friend of mine at the moment . . .
here's her take on it:

"right over left is a dance move, sometimes...could be putting one foot in
front of the other and just accepting the past and movig on"

she also thinks it may be related to tying knots, which also makes sense.

my thought was that it might be something like right hand over left hand,
as in holding hands.

so maybe they all figure in.  something like "take my hand, we're in this
together, and together we'll put the past to rest and move on."

if that's the case, boy, was that ever a brilliant line from emily!

        battle on,
        shanie
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and poke them so full of holes!"  -- kerry stuart in "tropical storm," by
melissa good

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 16:19:43 edt
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i'd have to disagree, actually. i think, by saying "it's right over left,"
em's saying "one foot at a time, right over left, i'm working on healing my
past wounds ('healing the then')."

i'da know, just my thoughts.

shannon

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>i think she is using it as a term to describe "after having left".

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 16:38:34 edt
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hi...i'm delurking for the first time to add my $0.02 on this, because i've
been thinking about this a lot too.

>  you're right, "right over left" is bugging me now. it sounds like a
>  regular phrase so i didn't stop to think about it. what do we do
>  that's "right over left?" we fold things, tie things, cross things,
>  but in the context of this song...i don't know. this is going to
>  drive me nuts now ;)

hmmm...well, after listening to this song over and over, cause it's one of my
faves on the album (which i love!)...my theory is that it represents a
turning point.  like...when you turn a car wheel, you're taught to go hand
over hand.  maybe this is too simplistic, but it's just how it struck
me...it's a metaphor for moving through the things in your past.

say you're in a kind of metaphoric car.  you're making a concerted effort to
turn from the past ("it's right over left, and healing the then")...you're
moving forward through it all...so that you can finally keep moving forward,
twisting and turning through all of your issues, until there's nothing left
from the past that you need to conquer ("soon be to nothing").  that's how
those lines struck me, anyway. :)

at any rate, i've been lurking for about a month here, and i'm really
enjoying reading everyone's posts.  i think i may delurk a bit more often. :)

mis

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 17:09:27 +0000
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anyway, that url should be:

http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/kellysbootlist/index.html

kelly,
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in a message dated 99-10-02 16:19:48 edt, sgb29641@csun.edu writes:

<< "right over left is a dance move, sometimes...could be putting one foot in
front of the other and just accepting the past and movig on"

she also thinks it may be related to tying knots, which also makes sense.

my thought was that it might be something like right hand over left hand,
as in holding hands.

so maybe they all figure in.  something like "take my hand, we're in this
together, and together we'll put the past to rest and move on."
  >>

this reminds me of a friendship circle in which you cross your right arm over
your left and then hold your neighbors hands.  of course someone invariably
forgets which one to cross and asks and everyone chimes in "right over left!"

indi

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date:         sat, 2 oct 1999 17:54:02 edt
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hey everybody!!!  remember me?  it's tigger, the high priestess of amyism!

after a summer away in which to regroup and kind of find myself, i have
returned!

aren't you all just overjoyed?  :od

~~tigger

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ok-
i agree with the healing te then  interpretations that i have heard, but
i wondered what people thought of the "right over left" part of the
line.  what significance do you all get out of it?

-hm

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howdy,

i may have available 2 tickets to the monday ig show  in philly at the tower
theatre. tickets are face value plus the ticketbastard charges. seating
ain't bad-orchestra-14th row (seats 115/117) this is em's side :)

please contact asap so we can figure out how to connect.

thanks!!

-lja

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hey,
ok, so i'm getting really impatient waiting for cons.
reading all yer reviews isn't helping (although
they're very interesting) so i really hope it comes on
monday...

and now, a help request i'm sending out to all of my
kind friends:
hannah (aka hank) is coming out here to live with me
at the end of oct! the problem is,she's utterly broke
& wants to sleep in her car, but won't be able to
because of all her stuff. so she's gonna wind up
sleeping on cold benches or floors of highway
roadstops...
if there is a kind lister or two who would be willing
to put up my bull-ringed, tattooed, shaved-head,
bulldagger of a grrlfriend (who's really the sweetest
person in the world, but don't tell her i told y'all)
for a night as she travels on i 10 between tallahassee
& ca from 10/18- 10/22, we'd both really appreciate
it! she'd just need a bed or a mat or a piece of
carpeted floor, & could pay you back with a massage or
cooking dinner or stories about slam-dancing with amy.
thanks to anyone who can help...

peace,
arjuna

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i'm sorry about the previous mail... i'm send happy
tonight. i was just wondering of you could get ahold
of me, i have a question for you.
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i got lotsa stuff to say:

1.how are you s'posed to say melbourne?

2. has anyone ever noticed that amy stands really straight (as in she doesn't
slouch. not heterosexual)? i was looking at the pic on cons of them in the
water, and i've seen her stand that way before. i can't really put my finger
on it, but she gets a look to her when she does it. maybe it's cuz she's
looking down or something. she looks like she's lost in thought.

3. about y'all/ya'll: maybe, instead of "you all", emily was tryin to say "ya
all", then ya'll would be correct (the apostrophe takes place of the a in
"all" as opposed to it taking place of the ou in "you") it's a long shot, but
hey...

4. about right over left/healing the then: i'm gonna go against what
everybody's saying (although y'all do make a point) and say that "healing the
then" means solving problems as they come. then being presently. right over
left could be walking. this way, she's basically saying that she's taking
things one day/minute/hour at a time, until there's nothing left to take
(interpret that however you want). do i make any sense here?

5. forgive me if i sound dumb here, but what does amy mean by "go go go"? i
mean, i know what the song is about, and all the stuff that contributed to
it,  but i just don't get that. where should i go? what does that mean?

6. i can't think of the last thing i wanted to say.

pax, celeste (this may very well be my longest post ever)

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hey all...

i got some very hard news yesterday... my father has
breast cancer.  it seems about 1000 men a year get
breast cancer, and about 300 of them die because of
it. my parents have told me that it was caught very
early and that it looks good that he won't have have
aggressive post surgery treatments, but we will not
know til 10/14.

my father is my world.  it would be really cool if on
friday, october 8th everyone could send good vibes.
he will be getting the lump remover as well as his
right nipple and surrounding tissues for testing.

i am scared for him, as well as for my family.  i am
having a hell of a time finding info about this.
there are a few web sites, but most refer you back to
info on women's breast cancer.  and i can't find
information on how a father's cancer changes the risks
of his children.  there is much written about mother's
and daughter's but nothing i have found today about
father's.  this is all to weird...

i will post more news later.

thanks in advance!

babs :-(


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hmm...i like this "one step at a time" idea.  has there been any
interviews with emily about her songs?

maybe we could e-mail the view and get them to ask her, unless
they've already taped it...
~renee

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the future frightens us, and our lives slip away,
  moment by moment, lost in that vast terrible in-between.
  but there is still time to seize that one last fragile
  moment, to choose something better, to make a difference,
as you say...."
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        i know it's early to ask about a list meet, but i'm
procrastinating.  i have an initial analysis due for an instructional
design class in an hour...i'm afraid to proof read it. i hate reading
my writing...

anyways, how many of you who are going to the san diego show want to
meet before the show?

take care,
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in a message dated 10/3/99 12:16:38 am, grrrly4354@aol.com wrote:

>5. forgive me if i sound dumb here, but what does amy mean by "go go go"? i
>mean, i know what the song is about, and all the stuff that contributed to
>it,  but i just don't get that. where should i go? what does that mean?

it means go!!! it means just go, just act, just take a stand, just fight...
go go go.....  this is more of a feeling than an exact definition, i guess.
it means just forget everything else and do it.... rage, fight, struggle,
(nonviolently, of course).

emily

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i believe this speaks to the natural progression of healing.   the "then"
obviously refers to the past.  i think it is the natural progression of
letting go of pain.  she writes of traveling familiar roads that held no
meaning but now pain her to travel.  right over left symbolize life's
movements and it's natural path.  right over left brings to mind slow but
steady climbing, walking, movement, and progression.
chance

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hmm... i remember when i did boy scouts in middle and high school..
at the end of every meeting, we'd 'circle up' to sing a little scout song
that was too darned cute...

but, anyway, the only thing we said before we sang was 'right over left'
and then held hands that way, right over left, across the circle, a real
bonding thing...

i've encountered this ritual almost everywhere i go, from backstage opening
night of a show, to mixers at the first meeting of almost every organization i've
ever been in...

could this shed some light on what she means by it in the song?

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hi. remember there use to be a site to download ig mp3 boots and stuff. i
didn't finished downloading half the files. (i had a very slow modem then).
could any kind friends out there willing to copy a few for me please?

thanks
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my mom got it for me today for my birthday. i had a hard time waiting to get
it and now i have it and love it already. what is the deal with the cover?
cool, but suprising. it through my mom at first and she had almost bi pass
it. missy

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for all the indigo girls latin fans out there with
access to tnt channel(latinamerican version), tnt will
be airing indigo girls' special from the hard rock
live series on friday october 15 at 22:00 (bas)/21:00
(mex). set your vcr's. for more info go to the
tnt site:
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hey folks,

celeste said:
>1.how are you s'posed to say melbourne?

australians are lazy talkers, and we tend to throw letters
away (eg the "r" in my name is silent).  so, it's something
like melb'n (just toss out everything after the 'b' and make
an 'n' sound)...

more random thoughts:
i) compromise - is this what punk sounds like?  i listen to
music like this all day on the radio at work.  who would
have thought...

ii) for those speculating that the girl on the album cover
is a relative of one of the girls - the cover photography
credit (ute behrend, sabine schmidt gallery, cologne) would
seem to make this unlikely...

iii) what the heck is a ngoni (see the credits for "faye
tucker") ?

:)
sherlyn
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just back fromt he davidson concert.  too exhausted for a review.  angela
has promised one.  amy worked my nerves in blue suede platforms and
funkified plaid pants.  i was standing practically in front of her.  still
had the bandaid on from the nail breaking incident.   tattoo on her chest
was yummy to see.  emily looked like she just left a military base.  cute.
they were in high spirits and said we were the happiest crowd they could
remember playing to.  i could dribble on here for an hour.  can't.  good
night.  much better concert than raleigh. although there was a bitch
standing right behind us and for the first time in my 30 years, someone
threatened to kick my ass.  weird. alrighty.  parker

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since you're on the cover topic:  emily addressed it tonight while amy was
tuning her guitar:  they found the picture in a norwegian photography book
and apparently it stuck them and them used it.  they said it was a girl that
was widdling (sp?) with her pocket knife and .."no, it's not one of us, we
were never that cute".  yeah right, then why is there a horde of women
drooling like saint bernards on the hottest day in bermuda in full worship
front and center?  parker

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> my take on this is that, "healing the then" is not about the past but the
> future.  that is, if emily is talking about her death, or just death in
> general.  by saying "it's right over left" could mean to take one day at a time
> (as in walking)
> and to not worry about our mortality because it happens to everybody.  and by
> doing that, it heals her concerns about then.  i think that "soon be to nothing"
> means she's going to die but doesn't know when.  maybe?
>
> wendell
>
> shannon mast wrote:
>
> > i'd have to disagree, actually. i think, by saying "it's right over left,"
> > em's saying "one foot at a time, right over left, i'm working on healing my
> > past wounds ('healing the then')."
> >
> > i'da know, just my thoughts.
> >
> > shannon

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hey,

this is again for anyone who lives in australia or has been there.

is the rainbow room a real melbourne establishment?  if so, i am so going there!  :-)

:-) karen

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<< they said it was a girl that
was widdling (sp?) with her pocket knife >>

"whittling"  :o)

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in a message dated 10/2/99 3:03:01 pm, indigokat@aol.com wrote:

<<pat boone and the indigo girls>>

now there's an interesting combination!

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i'm gonna go all out with overinterpretting here... perhaps it if we take the
entire line, "right over left and healing the then," and look at it
politically (as it seems they're going in a more politically outspoken vein
on this cd)... could it be right wing over left?  with all the political
stife in a gay/liberal person's life there's always something we need to be
healing from, politcally speaking?

dee (who thinks too much ;)

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hello list members!  i have a favor to ask anyone who did, is, or is going
to cancel their trip to the dartmouth nh show 10/10/99.  if you made hotel
reservations somewhere near dartmouth and cancelled them please e-mail me.
every hotel, motel and bed & breakfast is booked solid with in a 40 mile
radius.  some places make you secure with a credit card and will not allow
you to cancel.  so if you find yourself in this situation and you reserved
a double room please let me know and we'll help each other out.  thanks.
fellow list member,
heather
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date:         sun, 3 oct 1999 11:05:59 -0400
reply-to:     sarah brady <sbrady1@email.unc.edu>
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wow. this was an absolutely amazing show. the crowd was awesome and a&e
seemed really into their music. they played a couple of oldies--tried to
be true, vw, three hits (plus the standards, ctf, least complicated,
po2, galileo)  ...and some sots stuff...gotm, shame on you, sys, along
w/the new stuff from cons (go, gone again, faye tucker, sbtn, trouble,
ozilline, cb&rc)  the crowd was able to carry verses in lots of
songs..which always makes me smile (this made up for the annoyance of the
silly girls sitting around me who only got up and danced along to ctf and
po2)
*during ctf, amy whistled the pennywhistle part.
*some guy crowd surfed to po2...amy said that was a first.
*at the beginning of the show, amy mentioned that her brother was there
celebrating his 10year college reunion from davidson. i didnt realize this
until after the show when i was hanging out outside the theater waiting
for the girls, but guess who was sitting beside me the entire show? um,
yea.  amys brother and his wife and two sons. eek!  he looks nothing like
amy.
*while amy was tuning her guitar at one point, em took questions from the
audience...someone asked about the cover and she said it isnt anyone they
know, its just a photo they found taken by a norwegian photographer. amy
corrected her and said that it was a german photographer. em then
replied..."german, norwegian, whatever..its all the same"  amy then
explained it..said it was just a girl w/a pocketknife whittling.  nothing
we cant all see by just looking at it.
*amy screwed up the beginning of shame on you...she got all the way to
"and they shine in the sun" and just stopped. she apologized and began
again. :) it was very cute...and the song ended up rocking.
*after the show we hung out to meet the girls.  amy was so nice..stood
around for about 10-15 minutes signing autographs and taking pictures,
even though you could tell she was very tired. after all the fans were
satisfied w/their newfound treasures signed by ms ray, she said goodbye to
her brother and his family...gave them all hugs and climbed aboard her
bus, her bro got into his little sporty black bmw and headed off.

i guess thats all for now...ill probably remember more things throughout
the day that ill have to flood your inboxes with..so i apoligize in
advance.

indigo love,
sarah

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  a&e  "i will walk down the street. i will hold my head high. i will say
   #    hello to everyone i meet. i will have love in my heart.  when i
   #    have hate, i will turn my hate into energy. and when i have anger,
  _#_   i will turn my anger into energy. when i am negative, i will be
( # )  negative only for as long as i need to be, until i understand it
/ o \  and then i will be positive. and i will not be complacent. and i
( === ) will not be complacent. and i will not be a racist. and i will not
'---'  a sexist. and i will not be a homophobic asshole. and i will love.
and i will love. and i will be happy that i am alive."  -amy ray

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date:         sun, 3 oct 1999 08:10:56 -0700
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i have 2 tickets for the 11/4 show at the wiltern that i can't use.   they're ochestra row t.  face value is $30 each.  email me if you're interested.

thanks,
nancy

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date:         sun, 3 oct 1999 12:12:46 edt
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in a message dated 10/1/99 8:17:13 pm eastern daylight time,
nokomis07@aol.com writes:

<< i'm saddened, i'm sure i'll get over it in time. but i am adamant in my
thoughts of down with john reynolds!!! >>

y'all... amy and emily produced it too!
i saw pat robertson on this week this morning, and he was talking about how
unacceptable it is that house republicans aren't working hard enough to
abolish some program, and sam donaldson was like, "but george bush, who you
have endorsed, plans to expand that."  robertson goes, "well, maybe we can
talk to him."    everyone's freaking out about john reynolds... dood, he's
only 33% of it!  the girls are strong folks -- i don't think he held guns to
their heads over the mixing board.

~ elizabeth, who's hoping she spelled "satan" like the devil and not like the
material.

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oh my god!  i don't think that show could have been any better.  amy said
were the happiest crowd they had seen.  everybody was screaming and yelling
and singing the words.  they seemed really surprised at how much we sang.  i
tried to hang around and wait for them to come out but i was tired and i had
to work today and we waited untill like 12:15 then left b/c one of the stage
crew said they weren't going to stay outside and sign autographs and stuff.
i'm soooo mad that i didn't stay longer!  ugh!  neways....

amy had on these really cute checkered pants and a black belt and she had a
button up purple shirt that was unbuttoned enough that you could see her
tattoo  :)  she was looking very good.  emily had on blue camouflouge pants!!
she had the sparkelies on her eyes too!

i must say that i am definitely an amy fan now.  after seeing her live in
stage it's just mesmorizing.  it was so cool to see the emotion on their
faces and closing their eyes when they were singing and when the other was
singing.  i would love to know what was going through their head.

i was down in the pit the had set up in front of the stage.  like 2 people
between me and the stage dead in the center.  it was soooo awesome!!!  i want
them to come back real soon!!

still screaming go in my head,
:p
tina

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hey there ~
  maybe i've totally lost my mind...
  isn't she saying, "it's right over left, and i'm heeling the bend"?  as in,
she's straining to maintain control of the steering wheel, and taking curves
rather sharply/tightly.  like, her life's on the verge of spinning out of her
control, and she's left desperately attempting to steer it in the direction
she wants to go, in the direction that won't spill her off the road.  "i'll
soon be to nothing" even makes more sense this way, because it suggests she's
trying to travel towards something, but she's sooner than later going to
drive off the road -- "be to nothing".
  comments?
~ elizabeth

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missed it) the lyrics to philosophy of loss.  i just now realized it too =
was on there after the cool (man i wish they'd make that into a 12" =
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in a message dated 10/2/99 8:16:38 pm eastern daylight time,
grrrly4354@aol.com writes:

<< 5. forgive me if i sound dumb here, but what does amy mean by "go go go"? i
mean, i know what the song is about, and all the stuff that contributed to
it,  but i just don't get that. where should i go? what does that mean? >>

good point of confusion!
  it's been driving me crazy since i saw them last july (like last year, last
july) that she changed problem child so much that the "go go go" part doesn't
make sense.
  here's the deal...
the last verse of problem child (the original go, i guess) is:
  "so i am a problem child/i've been wild all my days/all my anger and my
rage/my senses said it'd lead me astray/[but] i said, 'go, go, go'"
  if you know *that*, go makes all that much more sense!  otherwise, it's
just a random song with a meaningless refrain.  much like chickenman -- if
you don't know the whole story, it's meaningless and a tad silly, but with
the whole story it's amazing and powerful, etc.
~ elizabeth

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just thought i'd post the complete setlist.  of all the indigo girls shows
i've attended, last night's at davidson was by far the most beautiful... so
much energy, and i've never seen amy and emily so happy.
10.2.99
1. go
2. cold beer
3. three hits
4. get out the map
5. sister
6. trouble
7. tried to be true
8. ctf
9. ozillene
10. soon be to nothing (yay!)
11. this train revised
12. power of two
13. shed your skin
14. virginia woolf
15. faye tucker
16. least complicated
17. shame on you
*encore*
18. gone again
19. ?the reaper... it was a cover song... popular, but i wasnt familiar with
it.. i think this might be the influence of the new tshirt design, the man
holding a reaper
20. galileo...

good day-
trooper

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"it's right over left" - taking steps
"healing the then" - making amends for the past.

this whole entire song screams 12-steps at me.  i'm in a 12-step program and
that's probably why.  especially this part.  the 8th and 9th steps are about
making amends for your past mistakes and hurting people during your active
addiction, and that's what it says to me there.

jmho,
~~tigger, high priestess of amyism
i am a problem child
i've been wild all my days
all my anger and my rage
my senses said it would lead me astray
i said go go go
  ~~amy ray

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    never "said" renolds was satan and i realize the girls have a lot to do
with production.   i'm not new to this.  i still have my opinion and i'm sure
the girls would not object to that.

                                            danielle

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in case anyone cares, i'll be at the show tonight.
i'm about 5'6" with short blonde hair & i'm wearing a blue flannel with a white
t-shirt underneath and a pair of khaki cords.
if you see me, don't run, just come over and say hi.
okay, gotta hit the road.

:)
anna
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want my wishes back. -rose polenzani (in the middle)

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what? does that means they used stock photography for a cover?

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stock photography?  nah!  it just means they found a picture someplace that
they really liked and they used it.  probably in a book or a gallery
somewhere, or something that some friend of theirs had.

~~tigger, high priestess of amyism
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my senses said it would lead me astray
i said go go go
  ~amy ray

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hey everyone!

i am really curious to know what everyone's favorite song on cons is.

so, i decided that we should vote.  and i will be happy to tally up the votes.  so... to vote...

1.  please send your votes only to karen_chun@keromail.com (not this account)

2.  please vote in the subject heading, not in the body, so it will be quicker for me to tally.

3.  i know it is hard to pick just one song, so if you have 2, just write them both.  but please please limit yourself to 2, b/c that will be hard for me to tally.

4.  the deadline is sunday 10 october at noon.  i will post the results to the list soon after.

so remember, send your votes to karen_chun@keromail.com (and only to that address) by 10 october (sunday) at noon.

have fun...

:-) karen

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you know you're obsessed with ig when this morning i was listening to the
sermon at church, when the pastor said if we'd cheer for jesus when he
destroyed the temple (luke something) and yell "go, go ,go". guess what came
to my mind then.


daydreaming that i get to have a photo shoot session with ig....

dotty

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does anyone think amy's trying to sound like hank williams or some of those
old country-western "sangers" from back in the day?  *shudder*

~~tigger

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> does anyone think amy's trying to sound like hank williams or
> some of those
> old country-western "sangers" from back in the day?  *shudder*
>
> ~~tigger
>

i was thinkin' more along the lines of woddy guthrie, early bob dylan and
other early 60's folk singers...


mark

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i don't normally post reviews of shows but . . .

man, this show was the best that i've seen.  everything that has been =
posted is so true.  it was an unforgetable night.

i'd like to add that the cover song they did (with three finger cowboy), =
don't fear the reaper"  (blue oyster cult) was absolutely great.  they =
freakin' nailed this song.  they didn't even know the lyrics as they =
sang from a sheet, but it was awesome.  i hope they do it again for some =
of you kind friends.

also, i'd like to add to the description about the end of the evening.  =
a guy did come out and say that the girls were tired & didn't want to =
sign autographs but didn't mind if we hung around.  so we did (duh).

when amy came out, she stood there sort of awkward and then reached for =
a girl's hand who was standing there.  after she shook hands she took =
whatever the girl had & signed it.  she then began signing everyone's =
stuff.  she so did not have to do that because everyone respected the =
fact that they were tired & didn't want to.  i think the passion during =
the show moved her (& emily later) to sign autographs.  she was so kind =
& took time to really look at you as she was doing it.  this was the =
first time i've met either of them & everything i'd heard about others' =
encounters proved to be true.  they both seemed so sincere and genuine. =
i'll always remember that.

basking in the indiglo!!!!
kimcb

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date:         sun, 3 oct 1999 16:04:57 -0400
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i don't know if this has been discussed before, but does anyone else think
that go is almost a direct take from ferron's it won't take long?  the
first time i heard it, i couldn't help but see the similarities in tone.
even some of the phrasing like, did they tell you you would "come undone,"
is the same.

any thoughts or info i somewhere missed?

jorel

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i figured i should post my few points on the new album and whatnot...

- my absolute favorites are go and gone again, but i also really like soon
be to nothing, compromise, we are together, and ozilline.

- someone posted about how this album seems to be two seperate solo
ventures combined, and while i kind of agree that there are no classic "amy
takes a verse and then emily takes a verse" etc, it seems to me that the
songs all utilize both women.  some of the harmonies, while not as strong
on past albums, are amazing, like the bridge on go.  gives me shivers.

- as for the cynics, this album is definately no swamp ophelia or rites of
passage.  however, i really like it.  i gage this by the fact that upon
first listen, i was much more impressed then when i heard shaming of the
sun.  and to get back to the solo thing, sots seems a bit stratified as
well.  when you think back on their albums, you can see this
progression...first there was one solo song for each on the album, then
there were more background vocals/lead vocals songs, and now there is the
sharper divide.  kind of makes me sad, but still makes for an amazing
album.  and if this is what makes them happy, and this is how they want to
male music, theni say more power to them.

- on a personal note, i am going to see my first only-ig show monday in
philly (seen them twice at lilith) and am beyond excited :) :) :)

off to paper writing (skinner, kohl, dewey, oh my!)...

alisa

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>> does anyone think amy's trying to sound like hank williams or
>> some of those
>> old country-western "sangers" from back in the day?  *shudder*
>>
>> ~~tigger
>>
>
> i was thinkin' more along the lines of woddy guthrie, early bob dylan and
> other early 60's folk singers...

yeah, but i'm thinking more like steve earle.  steve is quite the twang-rock
date: wed, 20 oct 1999 16:16:03 +0000
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icon, and he's waaayyyy into the anti-death penalty cause.

i think steve earle would have been proud to have written ft.  as would i.

love,justin

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"> in a message dated 9/29/99 4:16:59 pm eastern daylight time,
> shannonmast@hotmail.com writes:
>
> > for god's sake, 8
> >  years ago, all i listened to was new kids on the f****** block! ;)
(how
> many
> >  of you sympathize? c'mon, raise your hands, you know you're out
there!)
>
> um. guilty.
>

count me as a former fanatic."

there is no former for me - i still love the band even they broke up years
ago, and always will - just cause  listen to different stuff now doesn't
mean that i will forget where and who i was.  ah well, different strokes
for different folks...tis a shame i had a former commitment or i would
have gone to see joey mcintyre perform at our local fair last tuesday
*nods*

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>from: meg merwin <mcm5h@cms.mail.virginia.edu>

>today---as i was eating breakfast, i opened the washington post (style section)...to find a
>picture of ig.(pg3)...there wasn't anything about them---just the fact that they played at
>jimmy carter's b-day celebration, but it sure woke me up----thought those of you in nova, md >or dc might want to check it out. meg

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in a message dated 99-10-02 20:01:25 edt, kelly fairbairn <fairbk@sage.edu>
wrote:

>  i was just nosing around e-bay, and someone is selling cds of pictures and
>  .wav files.  anyway, there's a couple of examples of what you're supposed
>  to get
..............................................................................
..
>  i went back to e-bay and they weren't there anymore....................


they aren't there anymore, because i wrote and told them to take them off
immediately.   i too was checking out ebay and saw those photo cd's for sale.
  those photos he/she/it had as "examples" originally came from my website,
and belong to me, or whoever i have listed as the photographer.  and i know
that neither of us gave *anyone* permission to sell them.    nor will we
ever.

apparently they are selling cd's of photos they've stolen off of the web.  i
use the word stolen, because no one should be making money off photos taken
off the web, at least most definitely not mine!!

lisa

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hey folks,

karen asked:
>is the rainbow room a real melbourne establishment?  if so, i am so going
there!  :-)

when we first heard "gone again" (back in feb '98), someone told
me that the rainbow room had been closed for quite a while,
sorry...

sherlyn
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  but the way i feel tonight, it's like i'm already there..."
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as a matter of fact, it's great to have you back, tig!

peace,

pam in dallas

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not sure if this is already common knowledge, but i read the following today:

10/3 article in the lowell sun (lowell, massachusetts):

"she's (amy) going to make a solo record, a bunch of punk songs she'll do
with a different band.   i am thinking of doing one, too.  i haven't quite
decided yet.  but i think we'll always work together.  being able to do solo
things is just a matter of security.  you know in any good relationship, you
let your partner do things like that."

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mark, i think it was mark! :)  you have row ee tix for night one and wanted
to go to night 2 also, if you are there...email me!  i lost your address and
want to know where you will be for night 2!
tammi

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joanne and heather pleaded:

>hello list members!  i have a favor to ask anyone who did, is, or is going
>to cancel their trip to the dartmouth nh show 10/10/99.  if you made hotel
>reservations somewhere near dartmouth and cancelled them please e-mail me.
>every hotel, motel and bed & breakfast is booked solid with in a 40 mile
>radius.  some places make you secure with a credit card and will not allow
>you to cancel.  so if you find yourself in this situation and you reserved
>a double room please let me know and we'll help each other out.  thanks.
>fellow list member,
>heather
>"i wish i was a nomad, an indian, or a saint" -a. ray

hey y'all, it's yer favorite (ahem) dartmouth ambassadress of sin here :)
just wanted to urge everyone who is coming up for the show *not* to plan on
a hotel, as per heather and joanne....it's primo "leaf peeping time" in the
great north of new hampshire, and for that reason, there ain't no hotel
rooms anyoldwhere. most folks i know are driving up the day of the show to
join us local yokels in line. i'd offer up my abode to anyone, really i
would, but i am moving the day before and won't have any furniture, let
alone floor space!

i'll check the local hotels randomly every day  til next saturday, and if
anything comes open, ill hold the rooms in my name and let y'all know ok?

peace,
sus

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once more, for clarity's sake (who's clarity again?)

before show monday, space between bathrooms inside theater lobby
shy* man with sheep (me)
maybe lady with sign (diane)

and afterwards, same bat-place, same bat-channel
the two of us...

then who knows what excitement might happen...

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>>just for consensus' sake, let's plan to meet after the show (and post-show
>>of scrambling for guitar picks and the shopping for merchandise), and i
>will
>>be hovering by neil and holding up some sort of list-related sign like:
>>nigc, igc, intimate strangers, cons, or something!  this will be for the
>>monday meet.  for tuesday, it's up to the listees/y'all if you'd like to
>>meet again (or for the first time).
>
>umm... i'll be the one running away from the crazy sign wielding person...
>(i was trying to think how "i'll be the one hovering by neil" would help
>people but drawing a blank).
>
>neil will be the shy* english guy, probably with some kind or earring
and/or
>muppet related t-shirt. oh, and i'll be carrying a sheep (it's a long
story,
>but i bet you'll know it's me).
>
>so my question now is: where after the show?
>
>in fact, goshdarnit, i'll be hanging around in the space between the
>bathroom entrances before the show too, probably looking like a lemon if
i'm
>on my own, but nevertheless, carrying a sheep. don't laugh.


abi's page!!! http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/abi/abi.html
this week, neil 'as been mostly been listening to:
ferron - 'the ima sessions', a little fairgound atraction; george gershwin
'piano rolls'; james brown 'star time (box)'
song o' the week: 'god bless the child' - billie holiday

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    so....10 am this morning, in front of tower records. 3rd in line waiting
for the place to open, and got tickets for the berkeley nov. 6 show.  not as
close as i'd have liked, but not too, too terrible.  it's a small theatre, so
i'm sure they went fast.
    anyone else score tickets today?
jennifer

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hi all,

i'm ringing in on this one a little late but i'd like
to give my take on the "right over left" line anyway.
when you experience something traumatic in your life
one of the first steps to healing is to get back to
living your life.  getting back to doing things you
usually do i.e. work, school.  sometimes you have to
force yourself to do it and you go through the motions
of your life very mechanically.  to me "right over
left" is a way of reminding yourself to keep at it and
let time work its healing power.  i recently went
through a break-up and this line really speaks to me,
i love it.

the words themselves remind me of when you first learn
to tie your shoes.  you perform the task very
mechanically while talking yourself through it.  i
still remember...right over left, make a bunny ear....

love,
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so i found out last week that one of the only west coast dates was going to
be at the berkeley community theatre (the ~4000-seat auditorium of the high
school where i teach).  i was beside myself and couldn't wait to tell
someone, so i saw this 15-year old student/fellow ani freak hanging out on
the courtyard and ran up and told her, "the indigo girls are coming here!"
and she said something like, "whoop-te-dooh, ms. bell!"

a few minutes later i saw her again and she was singing galileo at the top of
her lungs.  it was an attempt to embarrass me, but it didn't work.  just gave
me a sweet little memory to add to the front row seats i got today.

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     shedyskin  writes:
   >what? does that means they used stock photography for a cover?


   stock photography: it's a large archive of photographs in which
photographers make their photographs available for professional designers.
these photographs are most commonly used for commercial adds etc. it's the
main way photographers get exposure for their work (images).

   ok, now that we all know what i do for a living, i'll be heading back to
the dark room. have a great week all.

-di

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  as far as i know i'll be going to the show by myself, i was just wondering
who else is going.  list meet maybe? if so please let me know.

-di

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in a message dated 10/3/99 9:40:39 pm pacific daylight time, jenindgo@aol.com
writes:

<< so....10 am this morning, in front of tower records. 3rd in line waiting
for the place to open, and got tickets for the berkeley nov. 6 show.  not as
close as i'd have liked, but not too, too terrible.  it's a small theatre, so
i'm sure they went fast.
     anyone else score tickets today?
jennifer >>

i  was 3rd in line too this morning and ended up with row o, near
center...according to the seating chart thats about 14 rows back.  i'm
satisfied with that, even though the girl 2 ahead of me got front row
center!!   and yeah, you're right, they did go fast!!

sue~~who also goes by indi (when not lurking) but sees that there is already
someone on the list using that name so 'sue' it will be. :-)

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hi:

could you tell me the address where i can get the
screen saver?

thanks,
mocagu

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"sister"

"wish i was a mother with a baby at my breast
i am just a (fool)/(full up) with the milk of emptiness."

i definitely think in this eerie, evocative part, as was said, em is the
voice of the woman addressed.  and i think that's a great lyric for
loneliness.  as i see it, the woman/sister being addressed perhaps has
found herself at a certain age alone, and realizes she is childless, and
will probably remain childless.  (i wish it were, "wish i were a mother..."
argh.  grammarian in me.)

our speaker tries to console her:

"light the embers of another and the night won't seem so rough"

meaning, "hey, light someone else's fire and you won't be so lonely
anymore" (open the door*s, so to speak).  kind of an odd sentiment...but i
guess hmm, it doesn't *necessarily* mean casual sex, though i don't know
what else to make of it.

was it on this list that the whole "fire imagery is *sooo* lesbian"
discussion happened a long long time ago (i can still remember when those
posts used to make me smile)?  anyway, "lighting embers" falls into that
strange fire category, eh?  and the whole imagery...the moon, rain, road
trips, camping alone, and wandering feel so much a lonely lesbian thing.
(not that it excludes it from being a lonely str8 thing. :)  maybe em's
part is sort of a comment on the childless single woman syndrome.  but
amy's whole spiel is that you should come on now social and trust strangers
and reach out and lighting someone's fire always makes you feel better, as
it were.  reaching out of yourself to help another and being active can
heal you.

random comments:

#1: first time i tried to decipher it, i heard em's second line as:
"i am just a cuckoo with an empty nest"  lol.  but it's not as cuckoo as it
sounds, cuz the meaning would be the same--aren't cuckoos those birds that
lay their eggs in other birds' nests and let them get raised by strangers?
strange birds.

#2: i'm glad they chose this version over the reprise one...  the thunder
is amazing and the mood is delicious, but the atmosphere would be a little
too dark for the rest of the album and amy's stuff in particular...  just
like philosophy of loss would be really weird sounding as an independent
track in the context of the other material (though i think it sounds weird
regardless...something about the singsongy voice and those morbid
lyrics--one should not sing "the church has died" like that, it's just
*wrong*-sounding, and i think the problem is that the bigoted churches
abusing christ (not "the church") *haven't* died!  maybe died for you, em,
but they're alive and kicking and that's the problem.  it *is* early emily
sounding; perhaps that explains why i shudder and skip when i hear it).

#3: the sister reprise's thunder totally brought to mind cat power's "say"
on moon pix, to which i was listening obsessively before i bought cons.
(buy it, it's an amazing album, and "say" is brilliant for its thunder
effects as well as its melancholy).

luv,
h,
whose car last night was jimmied, her cheapy stereo torn from its moorings,
and her cd player with its copy of cons plundered.  but they left me my
grommit umbrella.  :) (wensleydale, anyone?)

ps.  what am i doing awake?
pps.  keep up the discussions.  it's a great album.

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''indigenous'' americans playing the blues

by steve james

new york (reuters) - ''indigenous'' -- the members of the band with that
name did not even know what it meant when
they first started playing.

now they are touring with blues great b.b king, and their debut
studio-produced album has made them the first american
indians to make the rock radio top 10 chart.

their blues music is hardly indigenous to america's indigenous people. in
fact, it was learned at their father's knee and from
playing along with records.

the band is a family of four members of the nakota nation who grew up on
the yankton indian reservation in south dakota.

mato nanji, or ''standing bear,'' the 24-year-old lead guitarist, singer
and lyricist, has been compared by guitar world
magazine to raw talents such as carlos santana, jimi hendrix and the late
stevie ray vaughan.

''mom and dad thought of it (the band's name) because of who we are,'' he
told reuters in a telephone interview from their
tour bus somewhere in north carolina. ''we didn't know what it meant at 12
or 13, but we understand what it is now,'' he
said. ''there's no real racism, although sometimes people come to see us
who don't know our music and expect something
different.''

'the vanishing americans'

his sister wambdi, or ''good eagle woman,'' 22, plays drums, and the band
is completed by cousins pte (peh-tay), or
''little buffalo man,'' on bass and his 20-year-old brother horse, who
plays an array of percussion instruments.

mato and wambdi's father, greg zephier, who died this year, played in a
rock band called the vanishing americans in the late
'60s and '70s, and it was his influence that sparked their interest in
music. mato credited their father and mother, beverly, with
making indigenous the success it is today.

''my dad was my biggest influence ... and my mom, who sings. after them it
was listening to freddie king, buddy guy, b.b.
king, stevie ray, hendrix ...'' he said, listing guitar idols.

little did he think, growing up on a reservation, where blues, country and
reggae are all popular nowadays with younger
indians, that he would one day be sharing a stage with b.b. king. ''it's
awesome,'' he said of the experience and touring to
promote the album, ''things we do.''

zephier was an american indian movement activist and once took his kids to
a protest demonstration in washington when
they were toddlers. he also instilled in them a pride in their heritage and
taught them the nakota language and culture.

practice, practice, practice

before they were teenagers, mato and wambdi discovered their father's
guitars and drums in the basement of their home.
''our dad showed us the basics but from then on he made us work out
everything for ourselves. we got together in a room
and played and the songs happened,'' she said.

their father insisted they practice hard before ever facing an audience and
it took five years after picking up their instruments
before indigenous first played live.

''when we started out we'd only listened to records,'' said mato. ''we had
never seen any band perform live.''

like many things in the music industry, their big breakthrough came
fortuitously. amy ray of the indigo girls asked the band to
contribute a song to her ''honor the earth'' compilation.

producer jim nickel, who has recorded nirvana, live, p.j. harvey and soul
asylum, heard the song and signed indigenous
for his new label, pachyderm.

the way mato tells it, the band had planned to put out an album themselves
and put all their money into recording sessions at
pachyderm in canon falls, minnesota. ''the guy who owned the studio gave us
a good deal,'' he said.

now the band is busy working on a second album. ''we just want to make
music,'' said mato.

reuters/variety

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hi everyone,
i just got cons!!! the official release date in australia is oct 11 which
is what all the big record stores told me on the phone today but...then i
found an import records store in the city (rockinghorse for anyone in
brisbane) that had imported it early.  so i jumped into my car (a red
niki- it looks like a plastic toy car), screamed at all the other drivers
to just ignore the lights and "go!go!go!", cursing the fact that my
indicators weren't working and speeding to get to the store before it
closed.  phew!  but i now have a beautiful copy of cons for $37 - but
completely worth it.

i've got to say that i think this is the most brilliant album ever
recorded.  perfectly ecclectic, honest, upbeat, sad, boppy, moving,
rocking -completely indigo.  i know a lot of people wanted more harmonies
but i was really impressed with the harmonies actually.  they're really
subtle but add so much to the lead, it'll come out even better live
though.

i really love the photos too!  beautiful.

oh well, i'll get back to thrashing around the room like the idiot i am,
amy ray has nothing on my dancing let me warn you :-)

today really is christmas,
maddie

ps  something weird.  my receit says  "come on now social - jewel"  huh??

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october 5th (1975)
holeman@cats.ucsc.edu(leslie)

october 6
bartap@law.georgetown.edu (peter a. barta)
"whoever rescues a single soul from the children of man, scripture
credits him as if he had saved a whole universe."
- mishnah, sanhedrin 4:5
"i want to live as an honest man,
to get all i deserve and to give all i can,
and to love a young woman that i don't understand..."
- suzanne vega

october 8 ('77)
mweiss@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (michelle rena weiss)

october 9
100064.3337@compuserve.com (gail anthony)

october 10
alhastings@mindspring.com (allison hastings)

october 10
bronwen_besso-smith@sunshine.net(bronwen)
"you don't have to like me for who i am but we'll see what you're made
of by what you make of me"-ani difranco-willing to fight-
"high school is like a sickness.trust me,the fever breaks.then you get
over it."-dolores price-she's come undone-
* 1200 curfews, 10 october 1995
* watershed, 10 october 1995

happy happy to all celebrating this week! *wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee* :)

love and indigo dreams,
audra
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hey all,

thanks to the concerted efforts of my sisters foraging out one of the few
copies of cons available in my city this afternoon, i was on my tippytoes
at work all night in anticipatory excitement waiting for knock off time.
i've listened to it once so far and i'm now on my second go.  luckily for
me, my sister has just gone to bed so i don't have to watch her terrible
dancing to the songs.  if i wanted to see a terrible dancer, i'd just
dance in front of a mirror.  i am very impressed with the
cd and i can't wait for the time(probably in about a week) when i will
know all the words and can sing along with our girls.
i love the photos - i haven't seen a picture of amy wearing lipstick in a
long time:)
can anyone else hear airplane in the chorus of trouble?

annie

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                      just tax the stupid people'
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                        a part of me, i'd still have
                          two of the same to live"
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hello, all...

in keeping with my series on deep questions, i offer this.

it seems that since the release of sots and into the cons era, many have
been commenting that these two albums represent the continuing divergence of
amy and emily as writers.  often have i read something like "it seems like
they're not a duo anymore, but two solo performers backing each other up."

so amy gets amy-er, and emily gets emily-er, right?

however, we've also noticed and commented on how amy and emily seem to be
adopting and adapting each others' styles into their own music..."trouble",
for example, is a driven rocker by...emily?!?  and "ozillene" is a folksy
acoustic appalachian ditty by...amy?!?

so which is it?  this is not a fighting post...i'm not confronting anybody
here or anything, i just wonder if anyone else has noticed the prevalence of
these two ideas, and the fact that they kind of are at odds with one
another.

are they going their separate ways artistically, or are they combining into
one?

of course, you could take the wuss way and say "a little of both"...

:)

love,
   justin

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hi there,

i've been listening to 'compromise' a lot, and i really like the chorus
bit, but... - can anyone tell me what this song is about?


kate

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be the things i miss...'
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>from the duke university article...anyone wanna step up and tell amy ray
that she's a good guitarist?:

"is latin music something you're interested in?

emily [saliers, the other indigo girl] is more than i am, probably. i mean,
it's way out of my league, technically. i cannot even imagine being able to
play some of that stuff or even approach it. so for that reason it's like
not knowing the language to me. but i like it a lot. it's mind-blowing. i
have so much respect for it. i like to dance to it, but i sit at my guitar,
i'm, like, ok, i know five chords-i can't do this."

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they've always written separately and worked out the arrangements later, so
the only change is in the way the songs were arranged for this album.  the
only *problem* i see is that some fans seem inclined to put an artist
straight (pardon the phrase) jacket around both writers, but in this case,
especially emily, based on their love of her previous work.  people are
generally more multi-faceted than we give them credit, and pinning emily
into a little box where she folds her hands and looks heavenward is really a
disservice.  this time around she chose to write about the things that were
(assumably) foremost in her mind, and to create powerful songs out of the
hurt and anger she was feeling.  next time around it could be something
completely different that fuels her writing.  it's still a great album, even
though i'd rather they had substituted "measure of me" for "compromise".

is that wussy enough or what?

peace,
tim

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>are they going their separate ways artistically, or are they combining into
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>of course, you could take the wuss way and say "a little of both"...
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sure. just name the time and place and i'll be there.

8)

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>from the duke university article...anyone wanna step up and tell amy ray
>that she's a good guitarist?:

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sorry for the nigc but i have discovered that the most sympathetic, helpful
and kind people can be found in this newsgroup.  i don't know where else to
turn.  if i discuss this stuff with my gf, she just freaks out.  i have
been fighting a losing battle with diabetes for the past five years or so.
i just got my lab results back and i'm so depressed.  if anyone here is
diabetic and has pointers or could just offer some support and
encouragement, i would really appreciate if you emailed me privately.
thanks so much.


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hi...is anyone going to the dartmouth show?  i have never been there and am
wondering about parking...will-call...what the venue is like...  if anyone
can help i would really appreciate it.

thanks so much in advance.
erin sue

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hello!  i have two great seats available for monday oct 11th!
orch row h seats 26 and 28

tix were 35$ plus fees that totaled 43$ per ticket (ridiculous)!!!!  i was
also charged fees from my credit card so i am asking 48$ per ticket.  if you
are interested email me privately marci513@aol.com.

thanks!

marci

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hey y'all!

remember to vote for your favorite song on cons!  you can send your vote in the subject heading (sorry, i really don't have time to read 300+ e-mails) to karen_chun@keromail.com by monday.

:-) karen

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if i saw my choice, i might find my voice, but i don't know when and i just can't tell."
   -- emily saliers, indigo girls (goddess)
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date:         mon, 4 oct 1999 13:33:11 edt
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can someone tell me the best way to go about selling two extra tickets i have
for the nov. 4 show at the wiltern theatre in los angeles?
thanks
(i got 3rd row for san diego)
has anyone been to the san diego state open air theatre?
i am new to this list. i have seen indigo girls 7 times, and met them at the
virgin megastore in burbank, where we talked for 10 minutes or so and they
signed all my cd's...

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date:         mon, 4 oct 1999 11:32:22 -0600
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for anyone interested, melissa e. will be on rosie today and letterman on
wednesday (i think).

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hey, speaking of...
has anyone heard "scarecrow" yet? it's the song melissa wrote about matthew
shepard... i've been trying to find a soundbyte of it on the web, but with no
luck so far. hard to believe it's almost been a year...


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hey all,

in light of the trouble vs. peace tonight/overt-gay-themes-in-music
discussion, i found the following blurb in this week's outlines (chicago
g/l/b/t newsweekly) to be, well, a bit interesting:

>from tracy baim's column (quoted w/o permission):

"we wanted to do a big indigo girls release
part in chicago (their new album come
on now social is out this week on epic),
but the sony promotional folks (sony
owns epic) in chicago just don´t seem to
understand the lesbigay market here at all.
well, we hope next time they come
through town, the p.r. folks will be a bit
more educated. or maybe amy and emily
can just take control of it themselves."

yikes,
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        reply to:   re> who got tix to berkeley?

i was first in line and got row d, emily side. :)  first, i got uu, which confused the hell out of me, and i didn't take them for complicated reasons i can't really explain, (in short, i was trying to help the person behind me, and in turn, help all the people behind him, but i ended up screwing myself a little--i learned a few lessons yesterday).
anyway, now i realize that uu isn't way back behind pp (which is the last row on the floor), but rather uu is in a section in front of a.  this notation is pretty confusing, but for those of you that have been there before, how big is this section in front of a?
i'm just wondering if row d is really that much farther than 4 rows back.
so, even though i'm more than annoyed with the events that transpired yesterday, i'm thrilled about the concert and about my seats being so damn close to emily. :)  i can't wait!
leslie

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got the new rolling stone today, and on the letters page they have a
correction stating the real name of the new album...as you remember, they
called it 'come on new school' in their review.

woo-hoo!  ig got some rs coverage!

lousy piece of crap magazine...

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justin shumaker wrote:
>
> got the new rolling stone today, and on the letters page they have a
> correction stating the real name of the new album...as you remember, they
date: wed, 20 oct 1999 16:16:03 +0000
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> called it 'come on new school' in their review.
>
> woo-hoo!  ig got some rs coverage!
>
> lousy piece of crap magazine...

and yet, i notice you contribute to their publishing costs by
subscribing...  irony?

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>from:    lori ann <liltree@yahoo.com>
>subject: indigo girls live on vinyl?
>
>after i left the puter yesterday, i remembered
>something else i saw at the studio yesterday.  it was
>in the indigo girls vinyl section (they have their own
>divider card that made me happy) and it was called
>"indigo girls live."  it wasn't back on the bus, y'all
>(they had that one too though.  on vinyl.).  i
>remember melissa was one of the songs on it, and the
>only thing i can think of that melissa is on is shades
>of indigo, but it wasn't that either.  i tried going
>to the ig discography (that deb hosts, right?)

yes, i do.

>, but it was all screwed up.

i don't see any problems with the discography... here's the listing:

>#087) indigo girls live
>       epic          vinyl 12" promo: aed-2287
>       1990
>
>
>       all tracks identical to shades of indigo (epic esk-2201).
>       recorded live at the paramount theater, denver, co,
>       october 21-22, 1990.
>
>
>time:             51:44
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>#087.1  hammer and a nail (live)  3:45   es
>#087.2  melissa (live)       4:30   g. allman/s. alaimo
>#087.3  watershed (live)      5:33  es
>#087.4  pushing the needle too far (l)    4:07 ar
>#087.5  you and me of the 10,000 wars(l) 4:16    es
>#087.6  daddy's all gone (live)    3:41   j. taylor
>-
>b side is identical


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i have a live cd called "blood and fire" that i have made cd copies of. it
was recorded in eugene, or they were opening for the grateful dead.  whenever
i buy a bootleg like that i donate an equal amount to one of the causes that
amy and emily support.  if anyone wants copies, i suggest that she or he
contact me...
set list:
closer to fine
land of canaan
ghost
chicken man
watershed
galileo
all along the watchtower
american tune
get together
hammer and a nail
virginia woolf
pushing the needle too far
prince of darkness
kid fears
mona lisas and mad hatters

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okay, all. two of my friends just bailed on me for the monday show at the
beacon theater in nyc.  the tickets aren't the best..(lobalc, row c, seats 29
& 31 <those are together) but who cares, it's the girls!!!!
i will be at the show, and since it is such short notice, i am assuming i
would have to meet you there to exchange tix...
i am asking face value, $35.00 each.
if you are interested, e-mail me :)
thanks.
rachel

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tickets for the 11/18 show in boise, id go on sale on 10/15, for those
who care.  the box office phone number is 208/331-8497, and as far as i
know, you can't get 'em online or through ticketbastard...

just so everyone is informed... :)

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just a little late addition to this discussion - i always got an image of
taking communion.  after i was confirmed, and before i left the church, i
was taught to take the wafer in my right hand, right over left, and always,
since i was little i watched people do this, and at some point, someone told
me that the right hand was thought traditionally to be closer to god.  does
anyone else remember learning this, or am i going nuts?  so anyways, maybe
there's a small religious significance to the line?  but that's always what
i think of when she sings it.

-tara

ps - the wait line is at 14 packs now, not counting stuff received this
weekend.  if anyone received flawed discs or has had any trouble with their
set, please let me know, we'll fix it.  any feedback would be appreciated if
you've got your boots and haven't let me know yet, please do and tell me
what you think - thanks.

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i do not have the time to do a lot of copying, so i will send copies to a few
people and perhaps they can spread 'em around...i found this cd at a record
store in ventura a couple of years ago...it was $30...geez.
there's a great acapella version of paul simon's american tune on it...i want
to remix the sound a bit when i make the copies, i did this on one copy and
it came out great. you just run it through an equalization program before
copying to the new disc...i don't know why the bootleggers couldn't have done
that in the first place the lazy bastards. lol.
peace

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tickets for the 11/18 show in boise, id go on sale on 10/15, for those
who care.  the box office phone number is 208/331-8497
>>>>

actually that's the 11/16 boise show and tickets will go on sale at 10:00am
that morning (10/15).  my site (see below) is updated - so keep the tour
information a comin'!!!!!

a+e=ig

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anyone else find it strange that the cd/boot is called "blood and fire" when
the *song* "blood and fire" isn't even on the thing? :)

shannon


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>i have a live cd called "blood and fire"....

>set list:
>closer to fine
>land of canaan
>ghost
>chicken man
>watershed
>galileo
>all along the watchtower
>american tune
>get together
>hammer and a nail
>virginia woolf
>pushing the needle too far
>prince of darkness
>kid fears
>mona lisas and mad hatters

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okay, so i'm wondering about people's thoughts on the following sbtn lyrics:

"till i hear that click that unlocks my fate."

???

any ideas what the "click" refers to? my immediate reaction was, "oh my god,
em's going to shoot herself in the head!" then i calmed down and started
looking at the previous imagery.

so assuming that this line is in keeping with the whole "driving" theme ...
i have no idea what this means.

ummm ... emily has no brakes and the "click" refers to the sound of the
pedal hitting the floor (a'la harry chapin's "30,000 lbs. of bananas"?)  not
likely. any thoughts?

also: for those of you who know the whole "i don't want to live on the moon"
song, try singing the whole thing along with pol, verses with verses and
chorus with chorus (y'know, sing "though i'd like to look down at the earth
from above..." with "who is teaching kids to be soldiers..."). i think it
makes a neat counter melody!! :)

yes, i'm odd and i do things like this in my car to amuse myself.

shannon

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hello.

i'm a longtime lurker, living on prince edward island, in the far east
of canada.  i've been a fan of the girls since right before so was
released, when a friend told me about them.  i've been hooked ever
since.

i finally got a copy of cons this afternoon, thanks to my friendship
with the owner of a record store.  i love this record!!!  the girls
maintain their standards of deep songwriting and skillful musicianship
while exploring new themes and stretching themselves creatively.
comfortably familiar, but surprising and new.  i'll stop now.

to answer the question about scarecrow, it grabbed me by the throat with
some very visceral images.  melissa paints a vivid picture of matthew
and his ordeal, along with a scathing indictment of society and its
blindness to the reality.

any other ig fans in this eastern wilderness?  drop me a line.


phil

now playing; cons, cold beer and remote control

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uu is in front of a????  i went to look at the
berkeley community theatre's seating chart
(http://www.dslnetworks.com/users/pt/berkeley.htm)
and it looks like a is the first row.  but then, is
that a different from "orchestra, row a"?  does
anybody know?  i'm orch, row b, amy side...  but who
knows how this is???  ahhh!!!
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i have kick ass seats for monday's nyc show and am interested in trading with
anyone who has equal or better seats for tuesday's show.
please e-mail me only if you are interested in trading for tuesday's show.
thanks,
carrie

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i'm probably the last one to notice this. you know in the ig official web
site some pages on the right there's a tiny pic of the girl on the cd cover,
if you point your cursor to it it changes to a different pic, and one of them
is both amy and emily in the river, with amy's shirt off, revealing the black
tank top!! too bad the pic is soooo small.

peace
dotty

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click that unlocks refers to the tumblers in a lock and how they click when
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>okay, so i'm wondering about people's thoughts on the following sbtn
lyrics:
>
>"till i hear that click that unlocks my fate."
>
>???
>
>any ideas what the "click" refers to? my immediate reaction was, "oh my
god,
>em's going to shoot herself in the head!" then i calmed down and started
>looking at the previous imagery.
>
>so assuming that this line is in keeping with the whole "driving" theme ...
>i have no idea what this means.
>
>ummm ... emily has no brakes and the "click" refers to the sound of the
>pedal hitting the floor (a'la harry chapin's "30,000 lbs. of bananas"?)
not
>likely. any thoughts?
>
>also: for those of you who know the whole "i don't want to live on the
moon"
>song, try singing the whole thing along with pol, verses with verses and
>chorus with chorus (y'know, sing "though i'd like to look down at the earth
>from above..." with "who is teaching kids to be soldiers..."). i think it
>makes a neat counter melody!! :)
>
>yes, i'm odd and i do things like this in my car to amuse myself.
>
>shannon
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hey,
    i would love if i could get a few tics to that show also.  i tried to get
them but they were sold out...no fun
karrie

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hey,
    i was just wondering if any of you have figured out any of the chords to
the songs on cons.  i would love it if you could send them to me. thanks
all things indigo
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i think it's the gate latch, she's referring to it in the previous line.

> click that unlocks refers to the tumblers in a lock and how they click when
> the right combination is hit..or so think i.
>
> >okay, so i'm wondering about people's thoughts on the following sbtn
> lyrics:
> >
> >"till i hear that click that unlocks my fate."
> >
> >???
> >
> >any ideas what the "click" refers to?

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i don't even have the cd yet, and it's pretty clear that she's talking
about the click of a opening lock or unlatching gate...  when fate opens
a door, etc...

garian wrote:
>
> i think it's the gate latch, she's referring to it in the previous line.
>
> > click that unlocks refers to the tumblers in a lock and how they click when
> > the right combination is hit..or so think i.
> >
> > >okay, so i'm wondering about people's thoughts on the following sbtn
> > lyrics:
> > >
> > >"till i hear that click that unlocks my fate."
> > >
> > >???
> > >
> > >any ideas what the "click" refers to?

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> okay, so i'm wondering about people's thoughts on the
> following sbtn lyrics:
>
> "till i hear that click that unlocks my fate."
>
> ???
>
> any ideas what the "click" refers to? my immediate reaction was, "oh my
god,
> em's going to shoot herself in the head!" then i calmed down and started
> looking at the previous imagery.
>
> so assuming that this line is in keeping with the whole "driving" theme
...
> i have no idea what this means.
>
> ummm ... emily has no brakes and the "click" refers to the sound of the
> pedal hitting the floor (a'la harry chapin's "30,000 lbs. of bananas"?)
not
> likely. any thoughts?
>

i think of the "click" as being a lock being unlocked by a key...  i have
been listening to this song almost nonstop, and can't get all the way
through it without breaking down, because it relates so closely to a
situation i'm dealing with in my family life...  it is however, my favorite
song on the cd...

mark

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the moon is bare and shining bright
let's make peace tonight in a good time"
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hey there i heard about the tour too late to get
tickets and now i am in need of some help. if anyone
has extra ig tix for ny beacon theatre (prefer tue or
wed) i'd love to take one or two tix off your hands :)
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    i just recieved this from the warfield/filmore people regarding the nov.
8 sf show:

<<hey there,
     as of right there is no indigo girls show to confirm.  i called down
and talked to the booking agents asst. and she informed me that they put it
up on their web site without having booked a thing.  as of right now there
is no show so there is no information.  you should contact the warfield
show information line @ 415-775-7722.  this will confirm any show and tell
you when it goes on sale.>>

bummer!!  if you look at the ig epic tour site now, there is no nov. 8th show
up there now.  wonder what's going on??  we need more than one ig show in the
bay area!!  if anyone comes across any info on added show for the sf area,
let us all know!
    jennifer

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thank you for that info....i keep picking up that cd at media play and the
local indie store because i always think it's some long lost ig cd that i
missed, and they *are* right next to each other in the stacks......
i dunno, maybe it's just me.....
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ok, this is my 2 cents on sbtn.
  when i first heard this song, i didn't make a
connection with losing someone.  i thought emily was
singing about losing a relationship - going through a
seperation, and i still think that slightly.  the song
spoke to me esp. since i am going through a seperation
from someone i love, so i understood the pain.
  no matter what she is talking about, here is howi
perceive the lines:

< but you tell me it's temporary, it's a matter of
time
by god don't you think i know it's in my mind.>
  no matter what a person goes through - losing
someone from breaking up or death, this is what people
always say.  it is a supposed "comfort" saying, though
it never works for me.  and emily is saying "yes, i
know this, but it doesn't make the pain any less real.
no matter what people try to tell you, your mind will
believe what it wants to, and the more you think about
things, the worse you tend to feel.

<and it's right over left and healing the then, i'll
soon be to nothing but i don't know when>
  the first time i read these lines, i actually
thought she was talking about where she was driving (i
know, simple mind! lol), but as someone said earlier,
the first steps to recovery are putting one foot
before the other to walk - hence right over left...

<deep behind my face is a safer place, but old gears
are hitched tight to the gate.  it's a daily grind
waiting to unwind till i hear that click that unlocks
my fate>
  i honestly believe that click is the next "door" she
has to walk through to move on.  or it could mean the
next "piece of the puzzle" in her life.  i don't think
it means anything suicidal.
  we all go through different doors or down roads
during our lifetime, and that click is the locking of
one door and the unlocking of the next... a moving on.
  well, that's just my humble opinion. lol

  samantha

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my copy of cons finally came on saturday, but since
everybody and their mother has already posted a
review, i thought i'd just share a few thoughts i had
bout this album.

i was watching the crocodile hunter (when my cable
signal wasn't breaking up) and reading the newspaper
yesterday morning, when i heard "go, go, go."  i threw
down the newspaper and turned up the volume.  it was
the cons commercial that's been mentioned here.  i was
too excited to remember anything about it except that
i thought the prices they gave were kind of expensive.


some wise person on this list once said they were
avoiding new songs so they can approach the album with
an open mind.  now i know what they meant.  of the
songs i'd heard before, the only album versions i
prefer are soon be to nothing and ozillene.  ozillene
by far is my fav so far, the only thing i don't like
about it are the "oooohs" after amy says "oh ozillene
i feel for you"  (though the "oooohs" are what make
stbn work)
song they killed: gone again (they took all the fun
hokieness out of it!)
song that sounds pretty similar to live versions:
sister
"guilty pleasure" song: we are together

who is grandma ozillene talking about at the
beginning?  and is grandma ozillene the grandma who
was a suffragette?

on the "right over left" debate:  that line makes me
think of the scene in a league of their own where the
players are at charm school and the trainer (?) is
teaching them to sit and says "that's right, right
over left" (or whatever).  the other thing that came
to mind was right, as in the conservatives, winning
out over the left, the liberals (eek i doubt that was
what emily was thinking of though.)

i realized why this album seems even more strange and
unfamiliar.  no michelle malone.  no michael lorant.
instead they've got popular celebrities humming
somewhere or something (anybody make a positive id on
sheryl crow on any song?)  sure it's good to make new
friends and all, but keep the old, one is silver, and
the other gold.

what happened to josephine wiggs?  wasn't she supposed
to play bass on compromise?  not that me'shell n.
doesn't absolutely rock (cause she does), but i've
been telling everybody josephine would be playing on
compromise with kate and now i feel like a fool.

if the dog is laughing hysterically, does that make it
a hyena?

in one of those "professional" reviews someone copied
to this list, the writer said something like "the
12-minute epic faye tucker."  so when faye tucker
started fading out five minutes into the song, i was
wondering what was going on.  then i realized the
hidden tracks were hidden at the end of faye tucker.
makes you wonder if those reviewers actually listen to
the album.

speaking of hidden songs, i don't like it when they do
it this way.  i'd rather they hide it as a separate
unlabeled track like touch me fall/problem child on
1200 curfews.  i don't like fastforwarding, i always
end up not holding down the button long enough and
skipping to the next track, and then it's the last
track so i can't rewind backwards a little.  and for
the longest time, i thought someone had made a mistake
on cooper seay's fin de siecle and left the recorder
on for ten minutes or something.  then one day my
friend got the cd, six months after i got it, and
asked me, "what do you think of the hidden track?"
and i said, "what hidden track?"

and on an unconsrelated note, anybody seen that
commercial for home depot where the "employees" are
talking bout what home depot carries?  doesn't "amy"
in the commercial kinda look like our amy circa rites
of passage?  i swear, she's got the eyes, and that
haircut though her hair is lighter.

wow that was kind of long.  sorry.
(the long-winded) lori ann


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        reply to:   re>who got tix to berkeley?

yes, uu is in front of a.  i only know this because it came up in the computer before row d.  i'm guessing uu is so damn close, it's off the map.  i think it's something like folding chairs in the pit, and then the real seats start with row a.  hopefully someone out there who's been there can confirm that and tell us how deep the pit is.  and orchestra level is the bottom, closest level, so if you're orch b, then you're in the second row behind the pit.
leslie

>uu is in front of a????  i went to look at the
>berkeley community theatre's seating chart
>(http://www.dslnetworks.com/users/pt/berkeley.htm)
>and it looks like a is the first row.  but then, is
>that a different from "orchestra, row a"?  does
>anybody know?  i'm orch, row b, amy side...  but who
>knows how this is???  ahhh!!!

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<<i realized why this album seems even more strange
and
unfamiliar.  no michelle malone.  no michael lorant.
instead they've got popular celebrities humming
somewhere or something (anybody make a positive id on
sheryl crow on any song?)  sure it's good to make new
friends and all, but keep the old, one is silver, and
the other gold.>>

  i agree, although michelle is listed in the thank
you's, it was weird/odd not hearing her or michael's
voices in the backgrounds, after you've grown so
accustomed to them.
  that's my only cons complaint.  love the album!

sam

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erin carrol said:

hi...is anyone going to the dartmouth show?  i have never been there and am
wondering about parking...will-call...what the venue is like...  if anyone
can help i would really appreciate it.

yo erin whats up. i live in nh and work at dartmouth, so here's your
questions answered:

leede arena is the jokeable "big arena" on the dartmouth campus. it holds
about 3000 people max, and more like 2000 for this show the way they set up
chairs on the floor and then mostly rely on bleachers for the late comers.
parking can be tricky, you should try to get there a wee bit early and grab
a meter on the street next to leede (that would be wheelock street) and you
can probably also park in the thompson arena lot which is just down the
street from leede (thompson is the hockey arena, don't go there by
accident!!!). a bunch of us are getting there early to line up in the foyer
outside the entrance doors, and we were there only five hours early and got
front row seats, so you should be fine in that dept. if there's anything i
can do to help anyone get to dartmouth, let me know, tey'll open the doors
promptly at 7, and then it's a mad dash for the first few rows....there
aren't many ig diehards at dartmouth so dont worry about students lining up
at 4 am. they all listen to sugar ray....

sus

who will be booting, and will offer it up after, no worries

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ok, i got lower balcony row a. i can't tell where that is
according to this map.  anyone been there?  how bad is that row??

val
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yes, uu is in front of a.  i only know this because it came up in the computer before row d.  i'm guessing uu is so damn close, it's
off the map.  i think it's something like folding chairs in the pit, and then the real seats start with row a.  hopefully someone
out there who's been there can confirm that and tell us how deep the pit is.  and orchestra level is the bottom, closest level, so
if you're orch b, then you're in the second row behind the pit.
leslie

>uu is in front of a????  i went to look at the
>berkeley community theatre's seating chart
>(http://www.dslnetworks.com/users/pt/berkeley.htm)
>and it looks like a is the first row.  but then, is
>that a different from "orchestra, row a"?  does
>anybody know?  i'm orch, row b, amy side...  but who
>knows how this is???  ahhh!!!

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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the news-only list...

-sherlyn

---begin forwarded message---
>from: "i eat purple bugs" <ieatpurplebugs@sympatico.ca>
>date: sun, 3 oct 1999 21:24:27 -0400
>subject: [ig-news] uptown lounge video auction
>
>hi all
>
>i am auctioning a new, sealed copy of the girls' live at the uptown
>lounge video.
>
>you can find it on ebay at http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewlisteditems&userid=vidgrrrl@geocities.com
>
>(using my vidgrrrl id)
>
>if you are the successful winner, email me with the following ig-list-
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>
>only list members are eligible for the customized screensaver i am
>including in the auction, just as a thanks for being such a great
>group of people :)
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i can hear sheryl crow quite clearly on cbrc...

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why would someone be auctioning that video?  it's readily available at large
music stores!?
am i missing something?

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click of a lock?

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combination locks have devices called "tumblers" that align when the correct
# in the right sequence is aligned with the little indicator.  it *clicks*
when turned to the correct # after the correct amount of turns.

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hey folks,

indigo girls are this week's band of the week at ubl (the
ultimate band list).  they're running a contest to win a
signed strat - see here:
        http://ubl.com/fp.asp?layout=main_band_page

this minor blurb is also on the ubl site:

---begin blurb---
"the most natural thing in the world for us is to marry social
activism with our music because our music is so deeply rooted
in life issues," says emily saliers one half of the duo better
known as the indigo girls. over their ten year career, emily
along with amy ray have bravely and faithfully committed their
voices, time and money to the issues that concern them most,
among them women's rights, protection of the environment, the
right of indigenous peoples, gay and lesbian rights, and gun
control, creating a presence and impact outside conventional
boundaries of the music world. their new release come on now
social, is an adventurous and rewarding offering that features
such notable guests as joan osborne, sheryl crow, me'shell,
and garth hudson and rick danko of the band.
---end blurb---

-sherlyn
=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-= [sydney, australia]
"going eighty on the highway, we're all rushing somewhere;
  but the way i feel tonight, it's like i'm already there..."
                                - lucy kaplansky

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man!  4th in line at a wherehouse in san jose, and i got row kk, thanks to
the slow as molasses wherehouse staff.  grrrrrr!  who else be going?

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not really.  the led zeppelin album called houses of the holy did not have
the song on it. that song was on physical graffitti..

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hey folks,

this was posted to the newsgroup...

-sherlyn

---begin forwarded message---
>from: indigoskies@hotmail.com
>subject: cons review in 'out' magazine
>date: thu, 30 sep 1999 00:28:26 gmt
>
>okay, i was really shocked when my october issue of 'the advocate'
>arrived without a mention of cons, and today the new 'out' arrived with
>no picture and only the small blip below that i've copied without
>permission.  (i have mixed feeling about it...)
>
>
>>from out magazine, october 1999:
>
>indigo girls 'come on now social' (epic)
>can you put aside your notion of the indigo girls as a somewhat dated,
>folk-songs-'round-the-campfire dyke band for just a minute?  not that
>they've left their flowery-harmony, acoustic-guitar-twangin' aesthetic
>completely behind- and not that we'd want them to.  to be sure, tracks
>like "gone again" and "we are together" give diehards precisely the
>wholesome, ya'll-sing-along fare they crave.  but it's the new,
>electronicized sounds that will impress the rest of us.  songs like the
>raging "compromise", with its rollicking bass loops, and the vibrantly
>beautiful "trouble" find the duo discarding their dueling-voice
>ornamentalia in favor of a multilayered wall of sound picked up from
>rem back in athens.  plus, they've borrowed sinead o'connor's backup
>band, as well as the musical chops of guest sheryl crow, joan osborne,
>me'shell ndegeocello, and luscious jackson drummer kate schellenbach.
>with a mix this eclectic, why bother going to lilith fair?-jolyon
>helterman
>
>(any typos are mine)
>so, that's all the mention they got, and i may have to write a letter
>to the editor!
>darlene
>visit darlene & sophie's indigo girls website for never before seen
>photos at     http://members.tripod.com/indigoskies
>
>
>sent via deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>before you buy.
>

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 11:01:18 +1000
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hey folks,

another from the newsgroup...

-sherlyn

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>from: d28if@aol.com (d 28if)
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>subject: cons review
>date: 02 oct 1999 19:23:37 gmt
>
>this is from the sunday "philadelphia inquirer," 10/3/99 (yeah, it's still
>saturday. here in philly we have psychics print our newspapers! <g>) ~
>
>indigo girls
>come on now social
>* * * 1/2
>
>have the girls gone punk? from the cover of "come on now social," a
dopey-eyed
>child stares blankly, wielding a knife she points simultaneously at crudely
>stenciled lettering and at you, the prospective purchaser. never mind the sex
>pistols, here's the toughest indigo girls album to date.
>
>of course, the clash-covering atlanta duo cares too copiously to pass as real
>punks, but, backed by a new english crew, they shuck off long-accreted aural
>bombast, steer clear of their acoustic roots, and, by lilith, actually
kick out
>the jams ("go," "trouble," "compromise"). amy ray remains professionally
>earnest and emily saliers still spins a pretty tune ("andy"), but on their
>seventh studio release, they shatter their tried and true, and come out
>stronger among the pieces.
>
>                              - fred beckley
>

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hey folks,

yet again, from the newsgroup...

-sherlyn

---begin forwarded message---
>from: d28if@aol.com (d 28if)
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>subject: philly write-up on ig
>date: 01 oct 1999 20:12:23 gmt
>
>>from the "philadelphia inquirer"'s weekend section, there's a small
write-up on
>the girls, since they're playing philly this coming monday and tuesday.
>
>indigo girls
>
>contrary to popular sentiment, the indigo girls are way cooler than any other
>caucasian chick singers on the charts. since forming in georgia in 1985, the
>oft-quoted-in-coffeehouses poetry of amy ray and emily saliers has been
misread
>as genteel and gauzy. and perhaps before their new "come on now social"
(epic),
>their words were less than "ironic." but at least they know what "ironic"
>means, as opposed to gal-dumbos like alanis or bad poets like jewel. coming
>through the wreckage of the dull singer-songwriter '80s, the indigos have
made
>"come on" their most tension-filled record, falling sweetly and confidently
>between saliers' love of joni mitchell and ray's raucous punk leanings. with
>help from equally elegant songstresses joan osborne and natacha atlas and a
>raw-boned band including drummer kate schellenbach, bassist meshell
>ndegeocello, and band boys garth hudson and rick danko, the indigos tough it
>out. from love songs to road blues, from horny soul to spiritually minded
folk,
>the indigos finally sound blunt and direct, using force where flowers
wouldn't
>do.
>
>- a.d.a.
>___________
>
>indigo girls, with rose polenzani (monday) and three finger cowboy (tuesday),
>at the tower theater, 69th and ludlow streets, upper darby, at 8 p.m. monday
>and tuesday. tickets: $36. phone: 215-336-2000
>________________
>
>
>i just included that ending information in case anyone was still
interested in
>trying to get tickets.
>

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hey. procrastinating in my fav. hangout: the library.
thought i'd do a little reflecting on sbtn since y'all have got me thinking
about it....
i think, and may, therefore be wrong, that emily is referring to an emotional
'click' that unlocks her fate, and is thus using the metaphor of sound to
indicate the click. so, when she 'hears' the click, she will have, according
to my theory, come to a *mental realization* which will push her towards a
life-altering decision.....as her fate would have it....
ok, ok, so i'm writing an english paper! but think about it....
that's all folks,
k

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date:         mon, 4 oct 1999 18:52:26 -0700
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>
>
> ok, i got lower balcony row a. i can't tell where that is
> according to this map.  anyone been there?  how bad is that row??
>
> val
> ----------
>
> yes, uu is in front of a.  i only know this because it came up in
> the computer before row d.  i'm guessing uu is so damn close, it's
> off the map.  i think it's something like folding chairs in the
> pit, and then the real seats start with row a.  hopefully someone
> out there who's been there can confirm that and tell us how deep
the last time ig played the warfield, i got row a (of the real seats) and it
was a fantabulous place to be!  it overlooks the pit with just a metal rail
in front of you (comfy to hang your legs over!) so you have a totally
unobstructed view, and from not all that far back.  the pit seemed like it
was only about 25-30? feet deep.

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> yes, uu is in front of a.  i only know this because it came up in
> the computer before row d.  i'm guessing uu is so damn close,
> it's off the map.  i think it's something like folding chairs in
> the pit, and then the real seats start with row a.  hopefully
> someone out there who's been there can confirm that and tell us
> how deep the pit is.  and orchestra level is the bottom, closest
> level, so if you're orch b, then you're in the second row behind the pit.
> leslie

there were no folding chairs in the pit ... there are maybe 10 restaurant
style booths at orchestra level which i think are also first come, first
served... they weren't labeled as rows or seats, though.  row a is the first
row of real seats, located over the orchestra pit.  i can't figure out where
row uu would be!

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vesper evensong wrote:
>
> not really.  the led zeppelin album called houses of the holy did not have
> the song on it. that song was on physical graffitti..
>

and, after all, come on now social is named for a line in a song not on
the cd...

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 20:06:44 -0500
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hi,

if anyone has an extra ticket to the berkeley show, i'd be eternally grateful.

wendell

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my, my.... okay so i'm old, i'm tired, and its been a long day - so you were
talking about the berkeley community theater, not the warfield!  doh!  i was
trying to figure out why i was reading other messages about the warfield
dates being removed from the website - i was thinking, "but how did they
just buy tickets?!"

just pretend i never said anything ;-)

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hi all.  quick question...
who's opening at the beacon show on wednesday, 10/13?
thanks!
jami

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date:         mon, 4 oct 1999 21:07:14 -0600
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i'm sure there are others i haven't discovered yet, but this is the one
that jumped out from me at the very beginning.

"ganja love spell" instead of "conjure a love spell" in "we are together"

for some reason, it seems somewhat akin to "tuckus for better and a tuckus
for worse" in po'2. don't ask me why.

any others?

amy m.

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in a message dated 10/04/1999 5:55:43 pm pacific daylight time, opihf@aol.com
writes:

<< man!  4th in line at a wherehouse in san jose, and i got row kk, thanks to
the slow as molasses wherehouse staff.  grrrrrr!  who else be going?
  >>
    i'm keeping track of everyone who responded to my original post so far;
do we think there's a listmeet in our future??  lord knows it might be the
only chance some of us west coast folks will have to meet at an ig show here
in the bay area.  that is if the sf show is a sham.
    bitter in the bay,  jenn

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date:         mon, 4 oct 1999 23:51:27 edt
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    i thought they got rid of the warfield date, but i just looked and it's
still there.  the berkeley show isn't listed though.  hmmmmmmmm.....
    who's in charge of their website?

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 00:24:51 edt
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can anyone tell me when, at what time, the girls will be at the studio so i
can set my tape? thanks!
        -kristin

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an ode to living vicariously through the list.... enjoy ;)


shunned again/
well i just read one more review
and now that's all that i can do
every show keeps gettin' better
but it all just makes me blue
cuz i'm stuck here in miami
where those girls never seem to be
for all those folks i can't be gladder
and i'll just live vicariously

shunned again
shunned again
maybe someday i'll get to see them girls again
shunned again

played "come on now social" for a while
and you know emily always makes me smile
but i think amy ray's a kindred soul
with her bluegrass ballads and rock n' roll

last i saw them they were great
way back in may of '98
i bet they won't play in miami
'til the next damn century!

shunned again
shunned again
but maybe someday i'll get to see them girls again
shunned again

never thought i'd be so blue
with their poster in my room
their faces stuck onto my plaster
with brendan fraser an' keanu

i bet that i won't see them play
till way past the y2k
god knows i'll still be livin'
down here with my parents anyway

shunned again
shunned again
but maybe someday i'll get to see them girls again
i'm shunned again
yeah shunned again
well maybe someday those girls are gonna get down here again
shunned again

<grin> pardon the bad, bad rhymes.
peace,
  rick
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http://members.aol.com/rbsayre/cheese.html
*who'd want to kill the cook?*
*dinner wasn't that bad.*

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 00:31:55 edt
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i posted about the bootleg i have called "blood and fire"
i am still very unsure and nervous about the ethics of what i am doing. i
want very much to share this wonderful music with others, while at the same
time doing whatever i can to help the causes i have in common with the girls..
the music of amy and emily has saved my life--literally.  i would be dead
right now without it.  i met them and told them so, but of course they
wouldn't remember that.  my cutting and suicide attempts were greatly
attenuated after meeting them and while heeding their messages of hope.  i
want to make copies of cds for people, and ask for donations to honor the
earth and anything people want to contribute to my expenses so i can get my
own burner and other resources with which to join indigo girls in their
endeavors in the fields of ecology, etc.  if anyone has suggestions or
references re how i can get something to amy or emily or their
representatives to set up some sort of arrangement whereby i can use my
unusual amount of free time to devote to these causes, i would be
appreciative.
peace and love to all...
vesper

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 00:45:47 edt
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hkfs,

these are very basic chords...not a note for note transcription.  first of
all capo 2nd fret.

but, the basic chords for the verses (from my interpretation) are: e, g. a.
c, repeat throughout the verse

chorus "raise your hands..." :  am, em, am, em, d, c, and e back into the
verses

bridge:  "did they tell you it would come undone..."  g, d, am, c, am, c,
repeat....

if you can play, you will be able to figure out the filler parts.  these are
just the basic chords!

peace, and happy playing!

joan :-d

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hey all texans and travellers,
i got tickets to austin and dallas. am deeply delighted. my dallas ticket is
reserved, center section row b. i'm hoping that means row 2.

i'm driving down from colorado springs,  maybe a 16-17 hour drive. my brother
has been filling me with alarming travel times but i just refused to be alarmed.
gimme a hertz rental, 1200 curfews and cons and 7-11 coffee with lots of cream
and sugar and hell, i'm good for weeks on end.

you'll know me. i'll be the one driving a much better set of wheels than i'm
entitled to, wearing headphones and bellowing gallileo at the top of my lungs.

i break for bats.
kc

ckpjays2@aol.com wrote:

>   as far as i know i'll be going to the show by myself, i was just wondering
> who else is going.  list meet maybe? if so please let me know.
>
> -di
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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 14:19:46 +0900
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hey,

i am sorry.  in  my previous message, i said "sunday"  i mean this coming sunday is the deadline for voting.  so you can still vote foryour fav song from cons.  just be sure to a) send your message with your vote in the subject heading to (and only to) karen_chun@keromail.com  the reason for this is, this account that i am using now is my primary account, and i do not want those messages to get mixed in with all the other stuff i get.  thanks!

keep enjoying cons!

:-) karen

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it's been a few days and i've had time to listen to
the whole album a couple of times now and it's
starting to grow on me. but when i first opened it and
skipped through the tracks it sounded like half the
songs were heavy metal and half the songs were country
western. i was most looking forward to "go" which i
had heard in concert but it wasnt quite as powerful on
cd it sounded like it was missing lyrics too. but
after a few listens the album is warming up to me and
i'm really starting to appreciate it.


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subject:      re: freedom of expression (fwd)
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dear friends,

please take the time to read the following e-mail and sign your name if you
feel so inclined.

thanks,

gram


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date: sat, 02 oct 1999 08:05:00 -0700
from: dan collins <dan.collins@asu.edu>
to: mary bates <mary.bates@asu.edu>, dan.collins@asu.edu,
    john donachy <jdonachy@hotmail.com>, greg esser <gregesser@aol.com>,
    dustin harris <doodlez@aol.com>, anshuman razdan <razdan@asu.edu>,
    harry smith <harry.smith@asu.edu>, damon smyers <kovacs@goodnet.com>,
    james stewart <james.stewart@asu.edu>,
    scott van note <scottv@workmail.com>, dan partin <dan@uni-q.net>,
    gram.jones@asu.edu, laurie_lundquist@hotmail.com
subject: re: freedom of expression


>sent:   friday, october 01, 1999 1:10 pm
>to: carolina@pseudo.com <mailto:carolina@pseudo.com>
>subject:    brooklyn museum of art petition
>
>as you may have read in the recent papers, mayor giuliani has withheld
>funding from the brooklyn museum based on the show, sensation. the show
>includes 'controversial' paintings and sculptures from the saatchi
>collection by young, british artists. giuliani believes the brooklyn
>museum should not be exhibiting these paintings, and has revoked funds
>to the museum. the board of trustees is suing the mayor for the
>violation of the first amendment.
>as channelp.com believes in freedom of expression, we are going directly
>
>to the mayor's office and demanding that giuliani stop this nonsense and
>
>adhere to the constitutional right to free speech.
>if you disagree with giuliani's actions against the brooklyn museum, and
>
>his violation of the first amendment, please:
>1. sign the following petition (by adding your name to the list) 2. send
>
>the email to 'channelp@pseudo.com' with  'freedom of expression' in the
>subject field 3. pass along this email to whomever you think would want
>to know if you would like to add any personal notes to giulinai, please
>put in the message field of your email along with the petition.
>channelp.com will be forwarding a formal petition with your signatures
>to rudy giuliani. if you want more information, please visit
>http://www.channelp.com <http://www.channelp.com>  on friday afternoon,
>october 1, 1999 beginning at 1:00 pm eastern, <a href=""> "> join in
></a> on
>a debate with invited participants from mayor giuliani's office and
>contemporary artists. artists, art lovers, law students, religious men
>and women, and others from all over the world will arrive to discuss,
>debate, and argue the controversy brought about by new york city mayor
>guiliani's public condemnation of and political action against the
>contemporary art exhibition.
>channelp.com will be at the brooklyn museum all weekend to document the
>opening of the show sensation. stay tuned on monday. if you couldn't get
>
>to the museum, you can watch the happens on channelp.com next week!
>the petition:
>we, the undersigned, support all public funding committed by the city of
>
>new
>york to the brooklyn museum of art and the installation "sensation". we
>believe that public funding for the arts is an essential part of the
>continued development of society. we believe to achieve this all
>artistic
>expression is acceptable. we believe the efforts of mayor rudolph
>guiliani
>and all elected officials of his administration are abusing the
>privileges
>granted to them by the voters. finally, we agree, in the event the mayor
>
>and
>his administration do not withdraw their unfounded condemnation, we will
>
>not
>support the future campaigns of rudolph guiliani or any of his
>administration with our votes or financial support. we the undersigned
>are
>named
>
>1. carolina cruz santiago, new york, ny
>2. alexander walsh, new york, ny
>3. jenny lee, new york, ny
>4. donna golden, new york, ny
>5. brian kim, brooklyn, ny
>6. elizabeth simon, austin, tx
>7. douglas may, london, uk
>8.roberto gonzales, seattle, wa
>    9.  carl mott, portland, or
>    10. grace coleman, providence, ri
>    11. larry austin, johannesburg, south africa
>    12. kerry silver, san francisco, ca
>    13. peter engles, berkeley, ca
>    14. george villanueva, mill valley, ca
>    15. amy green, san francisco, ca
>    16. dawn green, portland, or
>    17. ann carlton, st. paul, mn
>    18. jennifer kaye, brooklyn, ny
>    19. jung park, brooklyn, ny
>    20. bettina villalobos, new york, ny
>    21. tanya jarrell, new york, ny
>    22. jon shen, brooklyn, ny
>        21. edward carver, brooklyn, ny
>    22. joshua green, new york, ny
>    23. brett eisner, san francisco, ca
>    24. scott brown, new york, ny
>    25. timothy miles, new york, ny
>    26. saul eisner, new york, ny
>    27. jeanne more, new york, ny
>    28. virgina walker, brooklyn ny
>      29.  donna gesualdo, brooklyn ny
>    30. diane fishbein, cincinnati, ohio
>    31. derrick woodham, cincinnat, ohio, usa
32.  dan collins, tempe, az, usa


dan collins
associate professor of intermedia
co-director prism
school of art
arizona state university
tempe, az  85287-1505

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reply-to:     lyndsay agans <eccemus@hotmail.com>
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okay, so i thought about not going to the show, but i went. and i am very
happy aboutthat.

first of all, rose "ihavea stick up my ass" polenzani was very much a turn
off....moving on (no offense tothe rose fans...)

they didn't close with ctf!! they ended with galileo!!! ---> thank you.

it was an amazing show, a lot of new, a good mix of rather old (this train)
and thanks amy for chickenman. but the best part of the evening was standing
in the cold, pooring, rain with other listees waiting for a & e. it paid
off. though we all have pnuemonia now, it was damn worth it. even got a
signature on (wouldn't you know it) my list shirt from amy ray (with a peace
sign, hehe!!!)

okay, i'm going to bed now.

ig love, and tylenol cold (medicine) :o )

-lyndsay

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 10:27:55 edt
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hello everyone!  i know this is so so late, but i got a phone call from a
beautiful woman last night, and well, that was just more important than a
review.  :)
now, two days later, my memory is way too fuzzy to write a whole review of
the show so here are some of the things i can remember:

* the crowd was absolutely amazing!  the whole small venue atmosphere really
got everyone pumped.  during "go" when amy sang, "raise your hands, raise
your hands high!"  the crowd threw up their hands (well, the people
surrounding me did) and amy seemed so pleased with that.  it seemed to me
that that's what started the mass audience participation.  i was about 2 or 3
people away from the stage on amy's side and had a *very* good view.  she was
smiling and laughing throughout the entire show -- except during "sister" and
most of "soon be to nothing."  they both had very somber faces then.  anyone
else notice that?

* emily was wearing a sea monkeys t-shirt with the blue camouflage pants.
cute!  she was also smiling and laughing throughout the show.  damn can that
girl play the hell out of a banjo!

* amy messed up twice -- once because someone forgot to put the capo on her
guitar & she was in the wrong key... and again because she forgot the chords,
i think.  she looked a little embarrassed the second time, but played it off
really well.  emily said, "talk amongst yourselves!"  and smiled back at amy.

* amy was using a lot of hand gestures and made mucho eye contact with the
audience during the set.  i've never seen them this happy!

* "don't fear the reaper" was incredible.  they had just learned the song but
it sounded great!  the singer from 3fc played lead guitar on this song - she
*nailed* the lead in!

* something else my friends and i noticed -- they had a poster of xena and
gabrielle hung on one of the equipment crates.  i became way too excited over
this and probably made a fool of myself.  but that's ok.  :)

* i got a pick!  woo hoo!

unfortunately the list meet did not happen.  i tried to wait by the bathroom
as planned, but i was pushed away by security.  apparently i posed a serious
threat to the toilets...
my friends and i did get to meet kay and parker (hello ladies!) and had a
wonderful time anyway.  a big thanks to parker for the guided tour :) and for
opening your house to us.
that's all i can recall right now -- must get back to work.

good day,
angela

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 10:47:25 -0400
reply-to:     "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com>
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subject:      buy stamps, fight breast cancer, read, but nigc
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> wouldn't it be wonderful if 1999-2000 were the years a cure for breast
> cancer was found?  this is one note i'll gladly pass on.  the notion that
we can
> raise $16 million by buying a book of stamps is powerful.
>
> as you may or may not be aware, the u.s. postal service recently released
its new "fund the cure" stamp to help fund breast cancer research.  the
stamp was
> designed by ethel kessler of bethesda, maryland.
>
> it is important that we take a stand against this disease that kills and
> maims so many of our mothers, sisters, and friends.
>
> instead of the $.33 for a stamp, this one cost   $.40.  the additional
$.07 will go to breast cancer research.  a "normal" book cost $6.60.  this
one
> is only $8.00.  it takes only a few minutes in line at the post office and
> means so much.  if all stamps are sold, it will raise an additional
> $16,000,000 for this vital research.
>
> just as important as the money is our support.  what a statement it would
> make if the stamp out-sold the lottery this week.  what a statement it
> would make that we care.
>
> i urge each of you to do 2 things today:
>         1)      go out and purchase some of these stamps.
>         2)      e-mail your friends to do the same.
>
> many of us know women and their families whose lives have been turned
upside-down by breast cancer. it takes so little to do so much in this
drive.
>
> thank you for taking the time to read this message and pass it on

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 10:43:43 -0400
reply-to:     harry a keates <hakmusic@juno.com>
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from:         harry a keates <hakmusic@juno.com>
subject:      length of current shows

hi everyone, and a special hi to any of my old friends who are still
around here, it's been a while since i visited.

can someone who has been to one of the recent shows give me an idea of
how long a&e's sets have been so far this tour.  have any gone over 2
hours?

please write back to me (hakmusic@juno.com) so as not to waste bandwidth
on the list.

thanks for your help!

harry

p.s.  jude, if you are still here, i'm still here, i've been meaning to
write you, really.  i'll drop you a line soon.

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 11:19:19 edt
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hey, kind friendables...if anyone needs a lowell ticket for tomorrow, my
friend is desperately trying to get rid of one...it's in section g, and i
think the price is $28.  so please e-mail cheryl at cdsiegel@mtholyoke.edu
and tell her that you want to buy that ticket! =)
peace today,
carrie
p.s.  lowell is tomorrow!  i get to see indigo girls from the second row!!!

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 11:51:05 -0400
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two words.....

kid fears.


wait, one more...


ghost.


i dont think i can thoroughly explain how amazing this show was.  plus, the
tower security woman by us was so amazing that my boyfriend and i went up
to the front (we were in the back of the orchestra) a few times, during big
stand-up songs, and i got some amazing pictures.
i was misty-eyed for the majority of the show, all out crying during ghost.
they were so energetic, and the crowd was pretty cool, except that i think
the majority were new fans because i was the only one in my section singing
the michael stipe part of kid fears.
and power of two was amazing, and go, and how cool that they didn't end
(but still played) with ctf.  i liked the switch of galileo.

i need a boot of this show  for many reasons....anyone?  anyone?  please?????

still reeling,

alisa

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 12:15:44 -0400
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did anyone get this down?  the full set list for the mon philly show?
anyone?  i was too enthralled to write :)

alisa

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 12:30:39 -0400
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there's 2 tickets to the m.e. show next tues. in ny on ebay with no reserve
starting at $1.00 - thought some of you yanks might wanna know.

:)

-tara

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 12:47:48 edt
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have the boot from monday...14th row...haven't checked sound quality yet.

:o )

lja

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 10:48:12 -0600
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is it just me or does anybody else go weak in the knees during "sister",
at the beginning before the first chorus after that last "you come undone"
when she does that breathy "yeah"?

i've never been one to pledge allegiance strictly to one or the other of
them, but damn...

amy m.

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in a message dated 9/29/99 8:50:04 pm eastern daylight time,
asilve6213@aol.com writes:

<< anybody else besides me think the last part of faye tucker sounds like
riverdance?
i can just imagine amy and emily with "feet of flames":)
hmm..... >>

oh my gosh, i never noticed that b4... but at the concert last night  (in
philly-- it ***rocked***)  she did a dance that reminded me of riverdanc-y
stuff at the end of faye tucker.  i thought it was too funny... totally
missed the celtic undertones to the song.... i guess that's what working w/
crazy kids will do to you-- make you miss the obvious <sigh>  hope i didn't
miss anything else!
(the other) jill

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 15:13:31 -0400
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hkf's,

i updated my page (see below) a few hours ago but forgot to pass on the
info.  new dates for those left-coasters...  well, almost left-coast - new
dates in wa & wy.

here's the latest november -> dates:

11/01/99  phoenix, az union hall  now
(800)638-4253 (local #)
11/02/99  claremont, ca bridges auditorium  10/4 - 10:00am
(805)583-8700 (local tm)
11/03/99  los angeles, ca wiltern theatre  ?
11/04/99  los angeles, ca wiltern theatre  now
(213)480-3232 (local tm)
11/05/99  los angeles, ca wiltern theatre  now
(213)480-3232 (local tm)
11/06/99  berkeley, ca berkeley community theatre  10/3 - 10:00am
(510)762-2277 (local #)
11/08/99  san francisco, ca the warfield  ?
11/10/99  portland, or theater of the clouds - rose quarter  now
(503)224-4400 (local tm)
11/11/99  bellingham, wa mount baker theatre  ?
11/13/99  pullman, wa beasley coliseum  ?
11/14/99  eugene, or hult center for perf. arts - silva hall  now
(541)682-5000 (local #)
11/16/99  boise, id bank of america centre  10/15 - 10:00am
(208)331-8497 (local #)
11/17/99  logan, ut spectrum arena  ?
11/18/99  laramie, wy arts & science aud.  ?
11/19/99  denver, co fillmore auditorium  ?
11/20/99  denver, co fillmore auditorium  ?
12/16/99  atlanta, ga the tabernacle (404)249-6400

(there's either a '?' or '10/15' or 'now' which is the onsale date.
therefore, there's a lot of on sale info to be uncovered - so keep your ears
peeled!)

any info?  let us know!  merci!!

a+e=ig

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 15:19:18 -0400
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hey strangers...

forgot a little bit o' detail that i just saw on tm:

11/19/99 denver, co  fillmore auditorium
on sale: 10/9 - 10:00am
(303)830-8497 (local tm)

check tm to verify information.
8-)

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i want to go buy leah androne's (i am pretty sure that is her name) cd
date: wed, 20 oct 1999 16:16:03 +0000
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with the a certain song on it--but i don't know the name of the cd.

the song is leah singing something about "you call me a bitch in a
heat--i call you a liar"

anyone out there that can help me?

thank you soooo much!!!

jennifer

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 13:53:24 pdt
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hey peoples,

rose polenzani opened with quite of few of her fans' favorites, including a
couple new ones.  most of the crowd talked during her set, and it was
disturbing.  but i enjoyed her and goody jamming together so sweetly.
(setlist: 1st one i was late for/omen/heaven release us/"when i was
young...(don't know this one)"/seven/parhelion/olga's birthday.)  rose did a
"i am an only child..." line to which the crowd responded.  hearing omen,
after listening to shelley's cover, was haunting.

it was simply amazing to see the girls in concert again, and at such a great
venue!  their setlist:

go
get out the map
chickenman
peace tonight
this train revised
andy
ozilline
least complicated
shed your skin
closer to fine
sister
power of two
faye tucker
cold beer and remote control
compromise
ghost
shame on you

encore:
or with rose polenzani on lead, a&e backup, and goody with the great solo
kid fears
galileo

highlights of the night:
they really seemed to enjoy the crowd participation, especially on lc, ctf,
po2, kid fears.  amy was kicking up her heels on faye tucker during the solo
instrumental parts, and that caroline dale really is stunning on her cello
solos!  carol issacs is so multi-talented--the penny whistle on ctf, the
piano intro on power of two, etc.--she had a wax candle lit by her
synthesizer.  the drummer, mr. ben cummings, was marvelous as well--loved
the lighting when they mentioned 'gold' in the bridge and lit up bc in gold.
  clare kenney kicked it on bass.

they said the generic stuff between songs, like this one amy wrote for her
grandma; thanks for listening to the new stuff; sing along, etc.

a nice roadie gave me clare's guitar pic and b.c.'s setlist after the show.

it was great to meet michal rogson, neil's wife andi, jill(the other jill)
and her gf and friend; and really lots of fun seeing jilly c., and spending
the night at neil and andi's.

steph, andi(steph's friend and the one with the great website), *j, neil,
michal, and i among others waited in the pouring rain to see the girls walk
over to their bus after the show.  both of them signed autographs, like was
already mentioned.

what also got me thinking was how amy could sing shed your skin and faye
tucker in one night; in addition to chickenman and ttr, and sister.

compromise and soon to be nothing have been alternating on my brain
playlist.  between rocking out and contemplating death quietly it's quite a
bipolar experience.

oh, and i..ummm...*laugh* dressed like an energizer pink bunny without the
battery back, and brought along a stuffed animal white dog because i wanted
them to perform "we are together", an admittedly corny track.  (the chorus
goes: "the dog caught up with the rabbit is laughing hysterically..." emily
said when i asked her about it, that they hadn't learned that song yet.
during the show, emily gave me an alarmed look, and then both of them
glanced my way a couple of times. (i was in the 2nd row on em's side.)

that's it from the peanut gallery.  thanks neil and andi for the
hospitality.

diane


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uh...i've heard the "call me a bitch in heat" song and it's by paula cole
unless of course leah andreone redid it...i only have 1 leah andreone cd and
it's her first one so what do i know :)

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hey all--thought this might be of interest to some. anyone wanna shed some
light on the validity of this?  sounds like a worthy cause. sign if you feel
so led:


women in afghanistan

the government of afghanistan is waging a war upon women. since the
taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear burqua and have been
beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire, even if this
means simply not having the mesh covering in front of their eyes.

one woman was beaten to death by an angry mob of fundamentalists for
accidentally exposing her arm while she was driving.  another was
stoned to death for trying to leave the country with a man that was not a
relative.

women are not allowed to work or even go out in public without a male
relative; professional women such as professors, translators,doctors,
lawyers, artists and writers have been forced from their jobs and stuffed
into their homes, so that depression is becoming so widespread that it has
reached emergency levels. in such an extreme islamic society, there is no
way to know the suicide rate with certainty, but relief workers are
estimating that the suicide rate among women, who cannot find proper
medication and treatment for severe depression and would rather take their
lives than live in such conditions, has increased significantly.

homes where a woman is present must have their windows painted so that she
can never be seen by outsiders.  they must wear silent shoes so that they
are never heard.  women live in fear of their lives for the slightest
misbehavior.  because they cannot work, those without male relatives or
husbands are either starving to death or begging on the street, even if they
hold ph.d.'s.

there are almost no medical facilities available for women, medicine and
psychologists and other things necessary to treat the sky-rocketing level of
depression among women.  at one of the rare hospitals for women, a reporter
found still, nearly lifeless bodies lying motionless on top of beds,wrapped
in their burqua, unwilling to speak, eat, or do anything, but slowly wasting
away. others have gone mad and were seen crouched in corners, perpetually
rocking or crying, most of them in fear. one doctor is considering, when
what little medication that is left finally runs out, leaving these women in
front of the president's residence as a form of peaceful protest.

it is at the point where the term 'human rights violations' has become an
understatement. husbands have the power of life and death over their women
relatives, especially their wives, but an angry mob has just as much right
to stone or beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch of flesh or
offending them in the slightest way.

women enjoyed relative freedom, to work, dress generally as they wanted, and
drive and appear in public alone until only 1996.  the rapidity of this
transition is the main reason for the depression and suicide; women who were
once educators or doctors or simply used to basic human freedoms are now
severely restricted and treated as sub-human in the name of right-wing
fundamentalist islam. it is not their tradition or 'culture,' but is alien
to them, and it is extreme even for those cultures where fundamentalism is
the rule.

everyone has a right to a tolerable human existence, even if they are women
in a muslim country.  if we can threaten military force in kosovo in the
name of human rights for the sake of ethnic albanians, citizens of the world
can certainly express peaceful outrage at the oppression,murder and
injustice committed against women by the taliban.

statement: in signing this, we agree that the current treatment of
women in afghanistan is completely unacceptable and deserves support and
action by the united nations and that the current situation overseas will
not be tolerated.  women's rights is not a small issue anywhere and it is
unacceptable for women in 1999 to be treated as sub-human and so much as
property. equality and human decency is a right, not a freedom, whether one
lives in afghanistan or elsewhere.

1) suzanne dathe, grenoble,france
2) laurence comparat, grenoble, france
3) philippe motte, grenoble, france
4) jok ferrand, mont st martin, france
5) emmanuelle pignol, st martin d'heres, france
6) marie gauthier, grenoble, france
7) laurent vescalo, grenoble,france
8) mathieu moy, st egreve, france
9) bernard blanchet, mont st martin, france
10) tassadite favrie, grenoble, france
11) loic godard, st ismier, france
12) benedicte pascal, grenoble, france
13) khedaidja benatia, grenoble, france
14) marie-therese lloret, grenoble,france
15) benoit theau, poitiers,france
16) bruno constantin, poitiers, france
17) christian cognard, poitiers, france
18) robert gardette, paris, france
19) claude chevillard, montpellier, france
20) gilles freiss, montpellier, france
21) patrick augereau, montpellier, france
22) jean imbert, marseille, france
23) jean-claude murat, toulouse, france
24) anna bassols, barcelona,spain
25) mireia dunach, barcelona, spain
26) michel villaz, grenoble, france
27) pages frederique, dijon, france
28) rodolphe fischmeister, chatenay-malabry, france
29) francois bouteau, paris, france
30) patrick peter, paris, france
31) lorenza radici, paris, france
32) monika siegenthaler, bern, switzerland
33) mark philp, glasgow, scotland>
34) tomas andersson, stockholm, sweden
35) jonas eriksson, stockholm, sweden
36) karin eriksson, stockholm,sweden
37) ake ljung, stockholm, sweden
38) carina sedlmayer, stockholm, sweden
39) rebecca uddman, stockholm, sweden
40) lena skog, stockholm, sweden
41) micael folke, stockholm, sweden
42) britt-marie folke,stockholm, sweden
43) birgitta schuberth, stockholm, sweden
44) lena dahl, stockholm, sweden
45) ebba karlsson, stockholm, sweden
46) jessica carlsson, vaxjo, sweden
47) sara blomquist, vaxjo, sweden
48) magdalena fosseus, vaxjo, sweden
49) charlotta langner, goteborg, sweden
50) andrea egedal, goteborg, sweden
51) lena persson, stockholm, sweden
52) magnus linder, umea ,sweden
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55) asa pettersson, grimsas, sweden
56) jessica bjork, grimsas, sweden
57) linda ahlbom goteborg, sweden
58) jenny forsman, boras, sweden
59) nina gunnarson, kinna, sweden
60) andrew harrison, new zealand
61) bryre murphy, new zealand
62) claire lugton, new zealand
63) sarah thornton, new zealand
64) rachel eade, new zealand
65) magnus hjert, london, uk
67) madeleine stamvik, hurley, uk
68) susanne nowlan, vermont, usa
69) lotta svenby, malmoe, sweden
70) adina giselsson, malmoe, sweden
71) anders kullman, stockholm, sweden
72) rebecka swane, stockholm,sweden
73) jens venge, stockholm, sweden
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<< * amy messed up twice -- once because someone forgot to put the capo on her
guitar & she was in the wrong key... and again because she forgot the chords,
i think.  she looked a little embarrassed the second time, but played it off
really well.  emily said, "talk amongst yourselves!"  and smiled back at
amy. >>

in nashville, between songs i noticed amy taking time out to tune her guitar.
i wonder if she has a new tech?  it was kind of cute, though...harkening
back to the old days...  <g>

re: the xena and gabrielle posts on equipment crates - i wonder if this is
sulli's doing?  doesn't she host xena night at my sister's room in atlanta?

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 14:46:24 -0800
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hey all.
i'm on the comittee here at pomona college in charge of the ig performance
on november 2nd. i just wanted to remind all you socal, la residents to buy
your tickets, because the venue is small and there are still a lot of good
seats available. the tickets are $35 for the general public, $25 if you have
a claremont college id. unfortunately, they're selling through ticketbastard
(i know they suck) but we're also selling them through the 5 college
bookstore, huntley. i also snagged a few extra promotional posters (i love
this job) so drop me a line if you're interested in one.

spread the word.

tamara

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lani,
i deleted your message :( please resend.

oops

shayna

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oh, another thing.

we're worried we won't sell all the tickets so we want to advertise
off-campus. does anyone know what radio stations here in la play our girls?
i need some help on this one.

thanks a lot,
tamara

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i'm not sure if someone has posted this or not, but this is a review cons
that was in billboard magazine this week.   i thought it was a great one!

=)
lisa

*****************************************************************
spotlight
indigo girls / come on now social
producer(s): john reynolds
epic 54330
pop
originally reviewed for week ending 10/9/99

those who have pegged ig partners amy ray and emily saliers as little more
than earnest folkies need to lend an open-minded ear to their seventh studio
set-which shows 'em at their most varied and creatively potent. complementing
their signature acoustic strumming is an array of well-crafted roots rockers
framed by adept, intricate electric guitar work. ray's superior contributions
brim with guttural intensity and wildly emotional performances, in which she
often sounds two steps away from a nervous breakdown. most notable is her
blues-kissed "sister," wherein she vamps like the revered rock goddess she
deserves to be. meanwhile, saliers seasons her reliably sensitive,
introverted compositions with newly discovered aggression-as evidenced on the
foot-stompin' "trouble." added pleasure is derived from guest appearances by
sheryl crow, joan osborne, and meshell ndegéocello, although their
appearances are more incidental than integral to the set's overall appeal.

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in a message dated 99-10-05 10:29:40 edt,  "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
wrote:

>  i'm sure there are others i haven't discovered yet, but this is the one
>  that jumped out from me at the very beginning.
>
>  "ganja love spell" instead of "conjure a love spell" in "we are together"
>
>  any others?

actually, at the greenville show last week, a&e came out with a few
themselves.............   for the song "peace tonight"

amy thought emily was singing "two black dogs and white woman running in a
field"  instead of "a white one"

and a friend of theirs thought emily was singing "let's make babies" when she
first heard the song, without reading the lyrics.

that got a laugh out of the audience, of course.
=)
lisa

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listees,
     my girlfriend of 16 years and i have tickets to the eugene show.  we
live in the portland, or area.  i was wondering if anyone in this area is
going and would like to bring us along.  we could probably go early on sunday
if necessary, but we need to be back that night or really early on monday
since i have a class at 6am.
                                         :-)
                                                                 kim

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sorry but all the promo posters i had have been claimed. if i manage to
steal anymore, i'll let you all know.

tamara

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hey everyone-
i'm not really sure exactly what this petition does, but i go to
brandeis, so i'll check it out and let you know what i find out about
it.

ruth

p.s.  going to see the girls tomorrow night at mit!!  i'm soooo
excited!  i've never seen them live before! :)

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hello ladies and gents

    a question for you wise folks, is the mobile show going to be reserved
seating?  i just want to double check before i get screwed.  i surely hope
not.  there's not enough dancing room in that little space they assign you!

peace to all.

colline

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hmmmmm.....perhaps the woman speaking straight to my soul in the "bitch
in heat" song is paula cole and not leah androne!!!

lol

*just a tad bit embarassed*

thanks y'all for your help

:-)

jennifer
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now this i wish i'd seen!
;),
shel (who now thinks that puttin li'l green aliens in the freezer at work is
an entirely too tame response to life).

>oh, and i..ummm...*laugh* dressed like an energizer pink bunny without the
>battery back, and brought along a stuffed animal white dog because i wanted
>them to perform "we are together", an admittedly corny track.  (the chorus
>goes: "the dog caught up with the rabbit is laughing hysterically..." emily
>said when i asked her about it, that they hadn't learned that song yet.
>during the show, emily gave me an alarmed look, and then both of them
>glanced my way a couple of times. (i was in the 2nd row on em's side.)


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"jennifer k. parker" wrote:

> the song is leah singing something about "you call me a bitch in a
> heat--i call you a liar"
>
> anyone out there that can help me?

that's a paula cole song called throwing stones.  it's off of
this fire.  i have no idea if leah has covered it.  i'm not
very familiar with her.

love and peace,
dan

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i assumed that the click that emily refers to is the gate lock latching,
maybe when someone comes home to her at the end of the day.  she says right
before that line that "old gears are hitched tight to the gate", so maybe
when the gate is opened and then closed at the end of the day, that somehow
"unlocks my fate".

just a thought.

yvette

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ok. i'll cop to this one from galileo:

"it seems like some kind of inspiration
to let the ex-wife off the hook"

don't ask me, cause i just don't know.
kc
> in a message dated 99-10-05 10:29:40 edt,  "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >  i'm sure there are others i haven't discovered yet, but this is the one
> >  that jumped out from me at the very beginning.
> >
> >  "ganja love spell" instead of "conjure a love spell" in "we are together"
> >
> >  any others?
>
> actually, at the greenville show last week, a&e came out with a few
> themselves.............   for the song "peace tonight"
>
> amy thought emily was singing "two black dogs and white woman running in a
> field"  instead of "a white one"
>
> and a friend of theirs thought emily was singing "let's make babies" when she
> first heard the song, without reading the lyrics.
>
> that got a laugh out of the audience, of course.
> =)
> lisa
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i agree with elizabeth  in saying that the words to go  really don't
flow as well in the newer version as they did when it was still  problem
child.

barb

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there's another show at the berkeley community theatre on 11/7.
the tickets are on sale on-line now! i found out about it by going to
www.basstickets.com , click concert icon, then follow concerts club
link, pick november 1999 date range, pick indigo girls from the table.
you can also call bass at 510-762-2277
get your tickets now.

meiwei

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date:         wed, 6 oct 1999 10:06:45 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

this was sent to the news list but is more appropriate
for here instead.  please direct your responses to the
original sender at esacha@mindspring.com, not to me.

thanks,
sherlyn


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>date: tue, 5 oct 1999 10:41:26 -0700
>from: elizabeth <esacha@mindspring.com>
>subject: berkeley theater tix - help!
>
>hkf~
>
>help!
>i called the ticketmonster today, and they said that there are no more
>tickets available for the 11/6 berkeley show ... and they just went on sale
>10/3!!  anyone know anything about this??
>
>not panicking *yet*,
>elizabeth
>
>oh, and thanks for the warfield info, jennifer!
>
>somebody said:  work like you don't need the money.
>love like you've never been hurt.  dance like nobody's watching.
>

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 20:15:53 edt
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i believe stadium seating has been outlawed in most states because of past
tragedies like people dying at a who concert and a led zeppelin show way back
when...

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 20:59:25 -0400
reply-to:     chris talbot <talbotc@umich.edu>
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from:         chris talbot <talbotc@umich.edu>
subject:      re: sister: what em says
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on mon, 4 oct 1999, h wrote:
> "wish i was a mother with a baby at my breast
> i am just a (fool)/(full up) with the milk of emptiness."

i think it's "farmer: but i could be wrong.

chris ii

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"old gears are hitched to the gate" is a mixed metaphor.  gears(like "cogs"
of the mind ya know?  as in i hear the cogs turning?) the gate.....the minds
gate, maybe.  i think she is saying little booby traps or snares pop up at
the least given provocation, reminding her of somthing  she would rather not
remember.

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hello there, i'm just making sure i'm back on the list. i  wasn't able
to get to my emails for a few days, and it filled up my mailbox  i
guess.  so
since apparently someone  list server (whatever it's called) took it i
don't want to be on i  re-subscribed my name.

if the moderator is reading this please respond.
everyone else?  have a nice day. :-)

peace,

barb

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jennifer said:

the song is leah singing something about "you call me a bitch in a
heat--i call you a liar"

actually, that wopuld be paula cole....not leah andreone, and altho the
title esacpes me at the moment, the song is on her last (not newest) cd,
called "this fire"

thanky  to trivia in the dark recesses o sus's brain

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a thought:
what if amy knew how both of these were pronounced, but recorded it in her own
accent 'cause she wanted to?  i mean, you'd think that if someone was traveling
the localities they choose to write and sing about, they'd know how to pronounce
the names the way the locals do.

i've heard post-sots boots of hkf that have her singing spokane properly.  maybe
that'll happen with melbourne.

anna
(who didn't know how either of those places were pronounce before they were
discussed on list 'cause she's never been to them)
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hey y'all~

i just got this from the backyard.  i know one person who's going to be very
happy those two days!!!!  my top three bands in two days.  not to mention
seing ani the week before and the pet shop boys the day before (10/25 in
houston).  damn october is a kick ass month!

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w/ the butchies amd three finger cowboy
tuesday, october 26th & wednesday, october 27th
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~tay

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when i hear go on cons i was thinking that it wasnt as
good as when i heard it in concert (guiness fleadh two
years ago)...

of course when i hear it then until amy said it was a
new song i thought it was a revised version of touch
me fall - i believe some of the background lyrics were
the same (this time dont assume anything, etc)... what
are the lyrics to problem child?

maybe touch me fall problem child go is just one
constantly evolving amy song :-) next year on tour
will be a transitional song and then a new song with
some of the old lyrics snuck in on the new album.

any thoughts? any recordings of problem child?


>i agree with elizabeth  in saying that the words to
go  >really don't
>flow as well in the newer version as they did when it
>was still
>problem
>child.
>
>barb


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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 23:10:37 -0400
reply-to:     havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com>
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subject:      re: nigc: women in afghanistan (petition)
x-to:         shannon mast <shannonmast@hotmail.com>

this is probably the fourth time i've seen this particular petition on
various lists (including this one a year or so ago)....as i recall, there is
some question as to its validity (the petition, not the information
contained within).....

tim

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>hey all--thought this might be of interest to some. anyone wanna shed some
>light on the validity of this?

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/wplate/1999-10/03/018l-100399-idx.html

indigo girls' true colors
folk duo does musical justice to its social commentary on
latest cd

by richard harrington
washington post staff writer
sunday, october 3, 1999; page g02

"go," the opening track on indigo girls' new album, "come on now
social" (epic), has a fulsome new sound--electric-guitar-driven alt-rock
more reminiscent of the breeders and r.e.m.--but a familiar sense of
encouragement rooted in personal history. after paying homage to a
suffragette grandmother whose brave but lonely battles ultimately changed
her options, amy ray looks to enlist new warriors of conscience.

"raise your hands high/ don't take a seat/ don't stand aside/ this time
don't assume anything," ray sings passionately in this electric call to action.
"i know the kids are still upsetters/ 'cause rock is cool but the struggle is
better/ go! go! go!"

ray and partner emily saliers, who perform at the patriot center friday,
finally have a rousing anthem to underscore their long history of social
commitment and political action, but there's nothing didactic about their
approach to such issues on the duo's seventh studio album.

that's true even of its most overtly political song, "faye tucker." it's a
stark, steve earle-styled discourse on convicted murderer karla faye
tucker, who last year became the first woman executed in texas since the
civil war. the song addresses the issue of the death penalty and tucker's
own complicity in the situation, as well as the media circus that enveloped
efforts to commute tucker's sentence.

"if you live, they gonna make you a campaigner/ if you die, they gonna
make you a grave," ray declaims starkly. "either way it goes down/ well
your life's not your own/ and that's why killin' don't pay."

elsewhere, "trouble" suggests a world full of tension and meanness,
including hate crimes ("when the clergy take a vote all the gays will pay
again/ 'cause there's more than one kind of criminal white collar") that must
give way to a more enlightened mind-set. or, as saliers sings, "one day
the war will stop and we'll grow a peaceful crop/ and a girl can get a wife
and we can bring you back to life."

while indigo girls have sometimes been dismissed as
lightweight--sonically, that is--the new album serves up plenty of wallop,
including the grinding, rough-hewn punk of "compromise," featuring bassist
me'shell ndegeocello and drummer kate schellenbach of luscious
jackson.

there's an exhausted edginess to "cold beer and remote control," a
blue-collar plaint in which saliers catalogues her isolation, bad job and
soulless environment, while "gone again," featuring the band's garth
hudson and rick danko, is jaunty busker-pop that masks a bittersweet
tale of restlessness and separation.

though there are some stellar guests on "come on now social"--sheryl
crow and joan osborne contribute background vocals on several
tracks--the bulk of the album is built around the british band ghostland,
which backed sinead o'connor on last year's lilith fair tour. featuring
drummer john reynolds (who co-produced this album), cellist caroline
dale, bassist clare kenny and keyboardist carol issacs, it adds subtle
textures to the duo's more familiar folk-rock stylings and personal
meditations.

among the soft-spun highlights: saliers's fragile "soon to be nothing,"
which explores the aching vulnerability of the still-committed partner in a
dissolving relationship; ray's "sister," a wistful trip-folk testimonial to
trust
and compassion; and "andy," the melancholy tale of a young woman who
pines for a farm boy who, in turns, obliviously pines for another.

"ozilline," ray's appalachian-flavored tribute to her grandmother ozilline
walker, is moving testimony to the wisdom of elders and their indomitable
spirit in the face of time's inexorable debilitations: "ozilline, she don't let
you cry/ if you ask where it hurts/ she says 'what a blessed sky!' "

this is not the only instance where blessings count--the album has several
upbeat anthems of community, companionship and commitment. "we are
together" is exhilarating acknowledgment of love found after long
disconnection ("though i said i did not care/ it was way before we'd
gotten there/ winded by the fruitless chase/ until i saw you face to face").

and "peace tonight" is a charming, spirited ode to emotional communion.
built on a new orleans-style horn section that gives it a swaying southern
pulse with just a dash of cajun spice, the song celebrates love without
limits and when saliers and ray sing, "love's been planted and we're
checking out the yield," you'll believe their hearts reap exactly what they
sow.
date: wed, 20 oct 1999 16:16:03 +0000
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(to hear a free sound bite from this album, call post-haste at
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my big gay bag and i descended upon philly.
no prisoners were taken.  this time.
though one-half a sub sandwich was.

>oh, and i..ummm...*laugh* dressed like an energizer pink bunny. during the
>show, emily gave me an alarmed look

yeah well you would too if you looked out into a sea of folks (99% of which
were screaming 'aaaaaamyyyyyyyy') and saw a lifesize cotton-candy-pink bunny
rabbit by the name of wong.

(diane was so adorable. you should have seen it.)

highlights?  what highlights?:
-sister and ozillene and go, oh my.
-bellowing over the balcony railing for rose.
-doing my best impression of a high school cheerleader trying to rally the
folks in the stands to give a rat's ass about what they're watching. (this
entailed me standing up, turning around to face the whole balcony, and
yelling, "stand up.  get up.  and doing spastic little flippy motions with
my hands until they did indeed stand up.  and then i felt all triumphant and
thought that maybe i oughta be a politician. or a cult leader. kool-aid,
anyone?)
-seeing some guy get arrested atop rose's parked (empty, as in
non-rose-filled) car, pre-show. (the cops had him with his hands spread on
the hood of the car, and they were frisking him.  i'm not kidding.)
-having a listee say to me, for the first time ever, 'f*** you.'
(you'd think somebody done it by now, but no!)
-neil and andi.  (um, hi neil.  yeah, i'm gonna write about you to 800
people, okay?)
who knew such martyr were in our midst?  they opened their home to every
scraggly, dripping wet folkie affiliated with this list.  yes, folks, we
entered the realm of the mr. neily.  they fed us.  they gave us a sleeper
sofa.  sniffle.  i'm verklempt.  he and his wife andi are very genuinely
nice people.  and musical.  and nice.  and cool.  and nice.  just don't
mimic the british accent, or else he'll sic the hedgehog on you.  (he's got
a pet hedgehog, guys).

aaanyhow. probably the most sparkling highlight of the night was attempting
to speak to a certain punkfolker, who shall remain anonymous.
'attempt' is the operative word here.
my attempt to calmly, genuinely,
and without the usage of the interjection 'wooooo,'
engage anonymous in some sentence exchange
and thank for her support and help with
promoting certain independent folkfreaks
was cut off.  i got out two words: 'thank you--,'
when i was interrupted by a brusque and distracted (as in, the person
addressing me wasn't even looking at me) 'no, thank you.'
uhh?
la la laaaa, insincere placation of the driping wet fans!
screw this musical hierarchy.
maybe i expect too much.

*j


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i grew-up in spokane, and i'm proud that it  is
now immortalized  in a song by a wonderful group.  yeah, i stopped and
wonderred about
amy's mispronunciation myself. but you know?
you would think that after traveling the world
over they would have it  down, names and places.

but doesn't it all get to be a blurr after so many years?  you travel
all over but how much do you get to see?  if you're doing  200 shows a
year,   i would think  it's all the same-------get on a bus ,  different
cities but the same sights---buildings, get off go to the stage, pack-up
do your show, leave, wake up in another cuty, more buildings get to the
stage, do your show, pack up,  go to another city    if you see so many
cities   how can you possibly remember them  all, correctly?

iwhen i think about that it really doesn't bother me.  besides that, she
was writing about  a very pleasant  trip with ani difranco.   it's nice
that
the state i grew-up  in  gave amy such a good memory to  share with us
all.   :-)  :-)

peace

barb               .

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 20:52:02 -0700
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and just how many cutys have you awakened in? ;-þ

ryan blackhawke
owner - fremont hemp co
(888) 956-hemp
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> -----original message-----
> pack-up
> do your show, leave, wake up in another cuty, more buildings get to the
> stage, do your show, pack up,  go to another city

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people in different parts of the country pronounce things differently.  i
know people who call miami "miama" etc. etc.
i'm not even sure there is a correct pronunciation of spokane, just whatever
you want, like tomato and..you know.
if anyone knows the origin of the name spokane and how it was originally
pronounced, let me know.

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barb wrote:

> but doesn't it all get to be a blurr after so many years?  you travel
> all over but how much do you get to see?  if you're doing  200 shows a

> year,   i would think  it's all the same-------get on a bus ,
different
> cities but the same sights---buildings, get off go to the stage,
pack-up
> do your show, leave, wake up in another cuty, more buildings get to
the
> stage, do your show, pack up,  go to another city    if you see so
many
> cities   how can you possibly remember them  all, correctly?

>from the perspective of someone who does the same thing (except to a
lesser degree) - yeah, it all tends to kind of blur together after a
while. i'm in a performing group at here at school, and every weekend -
actually, pretty much anytime we're not in school (weekends, breaks,
part of the summer. . .) - we go somewhere and do shows. we don't even
do nearly as many shows as amy and em, and i've only been doing this for
a little over a year now, but even so, i know i can't remember *all* the
places we've been, what they look like, what the show site was like, how
to pronounce the name of the town. . .especially if you don't get to
spend a whole lot of time there. like barb was saying, it just gets to
be so routine - get on the bus, go somewhere, do a show. . .half the
time you forget where you're even going. it just becomes one big
mishmosh in your head. at least, it does for me.

love and music,
kristina :-)

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 21:43:42 pdt
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hey y'all--
does anyone have 2 extra tickets to berkley on nov. 6?  the show is sold
out.  or if you have any ideas how i could get some, i'd be indebted forever
also :)  please, please....

thanks so much,
kelly

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hey..

got to tell you all: i had a chance to go to both shows and, the show on the
5th was killer.

if anyone booted the 5th, contact me, we need to deal. i'm sure i'll have
something you'll want in trade.

more review later.
kathleen

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hmmmm...i always thought that the only reason amy pronounced it "spo-kain"
instead of "spo-kann" was so that it would rhyme with "cascade rain" in the
next line.  i don't know that she was necessarily mispronouncing it, but
rather was just taking a little poetic license with it. ;)

mis

> i'm not even sure there is a correct pronunciation of spokane, just whatever
>  you want, like tomato and..you know.
>  if anyone knows the origin of the name spokane and how it was originally
>  pronounced, let me know.

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date:         wed, 6 oct 1999 01:33:55 edt
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i've lived all over the u.s. and almost everyone who lived east of the
rockies pronounced it spokayne...

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date:         tue, 5 oct 1999 23:06:46 -0700
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just because it's common doesn't necessarily mean it's right... there
are a lot of places in the nw, and around the country, with names that
are commonly mispronounced... most people east f the rockies also
pronounce oregon wrong (or-ee-gone rather than or-i-gun)... and i know
that i and most northwesterners would mispronounce a lot of midwestern
and east-coast place names. this is particularly prevalent in places
with native-american name origins (such as spokane)...

anyway, i've never minded the spo-kane pronunciation in hkf... i also
thought it was just an artistic-license thing to make it rhyme with
cascade range...

shannon

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> i've lived all over the u.s. and almost everyone who lived east of the
> rockies pronounced it spokayne...
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i am finding cons with all of it's social consciousness to be a bit haunting.
as i listen to it, i feel they (ig) are challenging me and it is a very good
thing, but a bit haunting.  anyone?
lynn

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whatever. you're probably right.  nothing will make me stop loving amy and
em...
just a fun factoid---neil diamond really committed quite an egregious faux
pas in his determination to rhyme...he ruined a pretty good song called "play
me" by using the word "brang" instead of brought.  personally i think rhyming
is very over rated. the song would have sounded just as good if not better
with the correct word...
also, the song i am...i said... i like that song except for "and no one
heard, not even the chair" like the chair would be expected to have heard? lol
enough rambling, sorry all.

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date:         wed, 6 oct 1999 00:04:48 pdt
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hey company of strangers,

'tis me, otra vez.  ay-yi-yi!

three finger cowboy warmed the crowd up--"they are a rock band", thus saith
amy.  their volume was deafening; though, i know i have been in situations
where my eardrums were more affected.  i loved the way their drummer was so
into his rhythm, not looking at the crowd except between songs, head bopping
up and down, arms flailing...  their lead singer is a petite brunette rhythm
guitarist; two male types round out the bass and the electric guitar.

my mind fogged up on what amy wore last night(long-sleeved blue and white
stripes shirt), but tonight, she wore that brown bowling type shirt with
long sleeves, over the infamous black tank, and dark-colored pants.  emily,
last night, wore her camouflage pants, white tee, and a open black shirt
over it.  tonight, she was wearing all black--very l.a./n.y.

whoa!!!!  amy and emily woke up from yesterday's show, and started actually
talking with us, and listening to our yells--err, questions and song
requests.  here's the setlist before i go on further:

go
cold beer and remote control
three hits
*
trouble
land of canaan
get out the map
sister
peace tonight
**
scooter boys
closer to fine
ozilline
you and me of the 10,000 wars
shed your skin
least complicated
gone again
***
power of two
shame on you

encore:
don't fear the reaper - w/ three finger cowboy (a blue oyster cults cover)
faye tucker
galileo


*(crowd yells for story--emily says what they love about philly--the food,
culture, museums, etc. amy chimes in that they've played in philly ever
since 1986.)

**a couple of girls were dancing in the main aisle, and were sent by
security back to their seats on a side aisle.  someone yells, "they won't
let us dance."  emily: "aaaaah, let them dance. they'll let you dance as the
show goes on."
amy: "here's another song of mine--hmmm, like many others, starts out in
semi-acappella beginnings, and ends in ferocious endings." (scooter boys
starts.)

oh correction: blair cunningham is the name of the new drummer on tour with
a&e--not ben cummings.  (oh well--got the initials right.)

***amy is talking with someone near the front and she mumbles something
about "married".  then she says, "you could do it before the pole, or
after." (what did that mean?) amy then invites a young woman in gray tee
with sleeves cutoff and a navy baseball cap on to the stage.  she takes the
mike and says, "hi y'all."  then pauses.  "rebecca hawks, will you be my
wife?"  (i assume rebecca said yes.) then emily shook hands with the onstage
woman, and amy reached for a hug.

you could feel the bursting happiness of that moment.  how incredible to
propose to your significant other in front of several of your closest
strangers ;) .  and the wonderful miss amy and miss emily.

people were thrilled to hear land of canaan; and ctf (the perennial
favorite), and least complicated was energetic.

better take a nap before work tomorrow.  a&e signed autographs (again)
after the show when they went to their bus.  (i got my cons signed!)  emily
came the long way down the sidewalk.  and amy went directly from the
entrance to the bus.  we half-groaned because we missed her, but she just
packed in her stuff, then came out again to autograph t-shirts, cd covers,
tix, etc.

overall, the crowd and the indigo girls & co. just made this night so extra
special.

diane

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"andy" is about a girl who has an unrequited love for a farmer boy--em told
the crowd on monday night.

when em introduced a song tonight, as one "that you can sing when you go to
the country with your loved ones...oh, no, not that one you're thinking
of--oh, i write the same things over and over again, repetition and
derivation."  (it was "peace tonight".)

dw

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yes, they are quite self-deprecating.
see amy in uptown lounge...
we are bad poetry,
and i am self-congratulatory most of the time
or something like that)

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blue oyster cult!!
they covered blue oyster cult!
it was worth it just for that.

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hey,

i heard that the npr station near my school (wyso, yellow springs, ohio) was running a tribute to cons all last week.  anyway, my nice sensei at home recorded it!  :-)  i wonder if anyone in ohio (central ohio area) heard it.  were there any interviews or anything?

i was just on the train listening to cons (it has not left my disc-person yet!) and i totally agree with what a lot of people were saying -- i wish all of "sister" was at the end of faye tucker!  i love sister, and i especially love the eriness (sp?) of that version, so i would have liked to hear how amy would have finished it.

anyway, that's all for now.  remember to get your favorite cons songs votes in by sunday (in the united states -- monday where i am and for all you aussies!) to karen_chun@keromail.com  also, please remember to put your vote in your subject heading.  i am heading out of town (to kyushu!  japan's southern island) on friday, and i will tally the votes soon after i get back.  i'm not sure if i am bringing my laptop yet, so i am not sure if i'll have any net access...

:-) karen

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if i saw my choice, i might find my voice, but i don't know when and i just can't tell."
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hi everyone,

i am looking to trade for the following boots of the recent shows in

savannah, ga
knoxville, tn
philadelphia, pa (both nights!)

i have tons to trade, including boots of some of the other recent shows
(nashville, greenville, raleigh, birmingham, and davidson).

thanks!
lisa

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date:         wed, 6 oct 1999 07:41:21 -0500
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>>what are the lyrics to problem child?
i am a problem child
i've been wild all my days
all my anger and my rage
my senses said it would lead me astray
i said go go go

raise your hands
raise your hands high
don't take a seat
don't stand aside this time
don't assume anything
but go go go

five generations running fast
these things will not pass
this debtor's blood runs in my veins
i can't change anything
i said no no no

raise your hands
raise your hands high
don't take a seat
don't stand aside this time
don't assume anything
but go go go

so you've learned to cry
but you don't know why
so you've learned to laugh
what are we laughing at

so i am a problem child
i've been wild all my days
all my anger and my rage
my senses said it would lead me astray
and i said go go go
go go

raise your hands
raise your hands high
don't take a seat
don't stand aside this time
don't assume anything this time
don't assume anything
i said go go go

>>any recordings of problem child?
yes, i have it on a couple of boots.

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ok people. this is my last attempt to set up a list meeting for either of
these shows!  tonight for ani i'll be wearing a black daemon t shirt and jeans
probably..... so please dont hesitate to say hello if you see me! i'd love to
meet you! now, fri's show will be tricker since it's a bigger venue. havent
rummaged through my wardrobe for that one yet, but if you'd like to meet, send
me an email and we can all try to figure something out. let me know!
hope everyone has an awesome time at these shows!!!!!!!!!
=0)
-k

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date:         wed, 6 oct 1999 07:54:56 -0700
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ola!!!!!

my oh my havent we all just been a jitter lately!!!! i
love it, hearing from so many of you again and seeing
your posts on the list about actual igc has been just
amazing!!!! now it is my turn to answer some of the
questions and comments from all this wonderful mail...

i have been listening to cons at work and at home and
in my car since i got it and i love it. sister grabs
my heart everytime i hear it. and i tell you what ever
since the post about miss herd lyrics i giggle when i
hear the 2 black dogs and a white one line...and sing
2 black dogs and a white woman instead...from peace
tonight...

you know the message of this album is really speaking
to my heart. i have been standing up for myself and
those around me...yeah yeah i know like i didnt
before...but i mean even more than before...and
encouraging my freinds to take a stand for themselves,
and to move to change their working and living
environments for the better. has anyone else been
effected like this or am i just going through a growth
spurt...or pms you pick...tee hee...

the girls have both been more vocal than ever before
too with the press and with fans at concerts...they
seem to be taking more of an active role with
everything. kinda like they have finally gotten to a
point in thier careers where they can be silly and
retrospective and politically active all at the same
time....it is wonderful...

also, if you are still with me, it is heart warming to
hear from all the newbies on the list too. our list
lurker group is becoming smaller and smaller, i love
it...great discussions guys...ok, i have rambled
enough....if you have read this far, you derseve
something...hmmmmm lets see what can the background
chick offer????hmmmmmm.....yes a new back
ground...email me and i will get it out to you toot
sweet.....catch y'all later....


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anybody in nova area have extra tickets to keb mo at the birchmere on oct
18? or know anyway to get them? (sold out)  let me know, thanks.

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hey people!

i haven't received nearly as many favorite cons songs votes as i had thought i would!  voting is fun...and easy!

just send your vote in your subject heading (sorry, keromail takes forever to open) to karen_chun@keromail.com by sunday in the states, monday in japan and australia.

i looked at the votes today and amy's songs are definitely more popular.  plus, as of now, i have not received any votes for either andy or we are together. if either of those are your faves, vote for them!  :-)

anyway, i will post the results sometime next week!

:-) karen

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if i saw my choice, i might find my voice, but i don't know when and i just can't tell."
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hey folks...

working on getting the boot organized. due to the high volume of mail on
this account, i'm asking that all interested in the tower theatre oct. 4
boot please email me at the following address: babeerabbit@hotmail.com
those able to tree, please contact me so we can get these people their
tapes!! actually, i personally have all the boots of my hearts desire right
now. the one thing i don't have is a poster from cons. should anyone have
said poster, they might get a nice surprise (and the boot a lot faster)
other than that, tapes, please, jsut tapes.  :o)

eagerly awaiting the patriot center show (8th row, hehe)

-lyndsay

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date:         wed, 6 oct 1999 11:30:53 edt
reply-to:     scarybiker@cs.com
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from:         rick b sayre <scarybiker@cs.com>
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hey gang- from the ultimate band list mailing i just got:

ticket giveaways: clint black, blink 182, indigo girls
when it comes to tickets, ubl has got you covered (although we can't seem
to get those blink 182 guys to cover up). you can win tickets to see punk
pranksters blink 182, country great clint black, and acoustic songstresses
the indigo girls plus more today!
<a href = "http://www.ubl.com/fp.asp?layout=main_contest_page" >win
tickets

also- for any other rage against the machine fans out there, there's gonna be
a live webcast- ratm's first: (new album! new album!)

3. rage against the machine's first ever webcast
don't miss the webcast performance of ratm live from the coachella
festival. not only will you be able to hear their new songs: you'll be able
to pre-order their new cd from ratmdirect.com. our webcast also features
artist interviews with performers like moby, modest mouse, cibo matto,
money mark, spiritualized and many more!
<a href = "http://www.coachella.com" >coachella

peace,
  rick
listening to: chantal kreviazuk/colour moving and still

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date:         wed, 6 oct 1999 11:34:38 edt
reply-to:     "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
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hi everyone,

i have some disturbing news to report: i just talked with the concert manager
here and she told me that there will *not* be any chairs set up for the show at
dartmouth this sunday. which means that the show will be standing room only at
the front of the stage, and there will be a barricade set up between the crowd
and the stage which will keep the crowd back four feert or so from the edge of
the stage.

this is disturbing on a lot of levels, mainly cause old gals like me hate ga
shows where we have to stand up the whole time, especially when we have been
standing in line for twelve hours!!! the bootleg will suck, also.  plus, it
means a bunch of rude people who show up at 7 pm will try to push to the front
and smash our cute butts up against that barricade. i'm way sad about this new
development, but according to the manager, they did this "because the crowd was
so rowdy" last year....and having no chairs makes it more controllable? i'm
doubting that.

anyways, just wanted to let you all know about this.

bummed,

sus

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the quality isn't bad at all. expected worse though. you see, my control
group for boot comparison is the 930 club and my girlfriends boot of spac
from our 4th row orchestra seats. more audience than i usually care for, but
it's pretty good.

-lyndsay...sniff...sniffle

(i'm still recuperating from that power hour of pnuemonia catching from
standing in the cold rain in philly. but i've never been so miserable with
such a smile on my face :o) it did pay off)

"i know you kids can stand the rain..."
ar

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date:         wed, 6 oct 1999 11:35:15 -0400
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we must've crashed the site.  i can't get into this.  any ideas?

> -----original message-----
> from: rick b sayre [smtp:scarybiker@cs.com]
> sent: wednesday, october 06, 1999 11:31 am
> to:   indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject:      interesting ig giveaway from ubl
>
> hey gang- from the ultimate band list mailing i just got:
>
> ticket giveaways: clint black, blink 182, indigo girls
> when it comes to tickets, ubl has got you covered (although we can't seem
> to get those blink 182 guys to cover up). you can win tickets to see punk
> pranksters blink 182, country great clint black, and acoustic songstresses
> the indigo girls plus more today!
> <a href = "http://www.ubl.com/fp.asp?layout=main_contest_page" >win
> tickets
>

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in a message dated 10/6/99 11:40:38 am eastern daylight time,
telane@trigon.com writes:

> we must've crashed the site.  i can't get into this.  any ideas?

i got there ok on compuserve- however, it just sends you to the
indigogirlsdirect.com site-
http://www1.indigogirlsdirect.com/indigogirls/main.asp
:) there's the exact link.


rick

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you can also get to the giveaway here:

<http://www.indigogirlsdirect.com>

it's on the front page.
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interesting, because i happened to sign up a few days ago as a fluke and
won tickets to the philly show yesterday.  i went monday and would ahve
loved loved to go again, but alas, transportation and work kept me in.  my
best friend and her gf were awfully happy, tho.
:)
alisa


>in a message dated 10/6/99 11:40:38 am eastern daylight time,
>telane@trigon.com writes:
>
>> we must've crashed the site.  i can't get into this.  any ideas?
>
>i got there ok on compuserve- however, it just sends you to the
>indigogirlsdirect.com site-
>http://www1.indigogirlsdirect.com/indigogirls/main.asp
>:) there's the exact link.
>
>
>rick
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ok so what you do is enter in all your info & pick from a list of shows for
the tickets you'd like to win. the shows:
philly (both shows)
lowell, ma
syracuse, ny
fairfax, va
hanover, nh
new york city! (new york city!??)
asbury park, jersey
amherst, ma

:) good luck. i hope list humans win!!
<grin>
  rick
entering the big grand royal giveaway dontcha know...

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tara,

try this link....i had no problem getting there.  the contest is only for
shows in...ny, nj, ma, pa, nh, va...a little too far east for me to
travel...sigh.  however, i just scored tickets to both berkeley shows so
maybe i should stop complaining...now!

http://www1.indigogirlsdirect.com/indigogirls/main.asp

sue (indi)

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i'm at work and cons is playing in the background, and i had to say this: i
know that emily has said that andy is about a farmboy, but i have to admit
that i was picturing a butch farm woman - there's a cheesy novel called
"vital ties" by kris kringle (?) that it called to mind...

thought i'd share
sarah

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i can't believe that breakdown is getting so trashed in the reviews.
but isn't it great that ig is getting acknowledged?
~renee

http://www.suntimes.com/output/rock/dero051.html

just another tuesday

october 5, 1999

by jim derogatis pop music critic
<snip>
melissa etheridge, "breakdown" * 1/2; indigo girls, "come on now social" ***

in contrast to brooks, melissa etheridge really needs to lighten up a
bit. "so you're having a breakdown/so you're losing your mind/i'm
drowning and crying, unraveled and flying," she sings on the title
track of her first album in four years.
a dark, soul-searching effort, "breakdown" isn't the disc fans might
expect after a sabbatical that saw etheridge become the proud mother
of two. the somber tunes lack the rousing female-springsteen flavor
of her more rocking anthems. the only time the minor-chord moodiness
really hits home is on "scarecrow," a sad, angry tribute to murdered
gay martyr matthew shepard. (etheridge performs nov. 13 at the
chicago theatre.)

the indigo girls fare much better on their latest. perhaps
invigorated by lilith fair, amy ray and emily saliers deliver a
hard-driving set of folk-rock decorated by a galaxy of star cameos:
joan osbourne on "go," rick danko and garth hudson on "gone again,"
and sheryl crow, me'shell ndegeocello and luscious jackson's kate
shellenbach at various points.
the reason for such widespread respect is that the indigos continue
to prove that music is a viable vehicle for social change without
ever resorting to preachiness. they prefer to let the music speak for
itself, and it does, loud and clear.

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we just got seats 13 rows back for the 2nd berkeley show on november
7th. so if you want to go, or missed out on the 11/6 show, hurry up and
get tickets - there are tons left!

--amy

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hello indi-hos :-)

all of this discussion around the gears, gates and clicks of "soon be to
nothing" put me in the mind of one of my favorite passages in one of the
primary texts i used for my thesis.  for me, it really illuminates what the
divine miss em is writing about.

the following excerpt is from rudyard kipling's _kim_.  some very brief
contextualization first: one of the main themes in the novel is the
slipperiness of identity.  in the following scene towards the end of the
novel, the protagonist feels suddenly disconnected and adrift after all of
his masquerading and mimicry (to use a loaded post-colonial term).  he is
overcome by fatigue, sickness and a sense of mournful disorientation:

"he tried to think . . . but the bigness of the world . . . swept linked
thought aside.  then he looked upon the trees and the broad fields, with the
thatched huts hidden among the crops-- looked with strange eyes unable to
take up the size and proportion and use of things-- stared for a still
half-hour.  all that while he felt, though he could not put it into words,
that his soul was out of gear with its surroundings-- a cog-wheel unconnected
with any machinery . . .

'i am kim.  i am kim.  and what is kim?'  his soul repeated it again and
again.

he did not want to cry,-- had never felt less like crying in his life,-- but
of a sudden easy, stupid tears trickled down his nose, and with an almost
audible click he felt the wheels of his being lock up anew on the world
without.  things that rode meaningless on the eyeball an instant before slid
into proper proportion.  roads were meant to be walked upon, houses to be
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lived in, cattle to be driven, fields to be tilled, and men and women to be
talked to.  they were all real and true-- solidly planted upon the feet--
perfectly comprehensible-- clay of his clay, neither more nor less."

otts

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date:         wed, 6 oct 1999 13:13:23 -0400
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i was turned on to this great radio station in vermont that's available via
the internet using real audio...  very diversified playlist...  and the
great thing is that they are promotely the dartmouth show on the air, and
are planning a telephone interview with emily and amy tomorrow (10/7/99) at
1pm eastern standard time...

just wanted to give a heads up to listers to be tuned in...

mark

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the moon is bare and shining bright
let's make peace tonight in a good time"
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does anyone have any information about the salt lake city show (i.e. =
ticket brokers, ticket sale dates, etc)?  why is it listed the same day =
as the logan show (november 17)?  also--are there any other utah state =
students who want to hook up to camp out or do whatever is necessary for =
tickets to the logan show?

melissa.

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subject: indigo girls' adult themes   attract a young audience
date: wed, 6 oct 1999 13:01:36 -0400

read the full story at the address below:
http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/99/oct/06/magazine/indigo06.htm


this story has been sent to you by: lurker98@hotmail.com

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i can't believe i forgot to paste the url into my last email...  here is the
url for wncs the point in vermont...  again, the girls will be on a phone
interview there tomorrow at 1pm est...

http://pointfm.com

enjoy!!

mark f. lichtenberger - nortel networks
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at 01:36 pm 10/6/99 -0400, you wrote:
>i can't believe i forgot to paste the url into my last email...  here is the
>url for wncs the point in vermont...  again, the girls will be on a phone
>interview there tomorrow at 1pm est...
>
>http://pointfm.com
>
>enjoy!!

well, damn!  i have a dentists appt at 10:30 central time so i doubt i'll
be back to work in time to hear this.  is anyone going to try to tape it?
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sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu
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subject:      re: andy

why not?

in the mind of the beholder, the image is whatever you make of it.

peace,
tim

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> i know that emily has said that andy is about a farmboy, but i have to
>admit that i was picturing a butch farm woman

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date:         wed, 6 oct 1999 13:03:21 -0500
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subject:      re: melbourne and spokane
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i'm proud that such a nice place i used to live
when growing up, like spokane is being brought up at length on an ig
list!!  brings back  fond memories, and oh, by the way  0:)  whoever
said oregone is "or-i-gun" back there, i agree.
in  minnesota everybody calls it  "o-ree-gone.
and lol  i could bop a few heads over here and
laugh.

much the same way  as people there often mispronounce pend o'reille lake
in idaho, &
call it pen-doh-riell,  when  it's pond o'ray.  un-
less you live by  pend o'reille  (i hope i'm spelling that right.) or
have been there.  know
what i mean?  just a thought. 0:)

peace to all,

barb

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date:         wed, 6 oct 1999 13:13:31 -0500
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subject:      re: problem child?thanks sheryl :-)
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i love these words, they flow better than  the cons version go.  thanks,
gee it's nice being on this list, lots of very interesting things come
my way everyday.  it makes my internet wanderings even more fun .   and
interesting conversation with you all.

thanks,

barb

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date:         wed, 6 oct 1999 13:13:11 -0700
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the link on the ubl page takes you to indigogirlsdirect.com, and the contest
has been there for a few days. it's only for the shows in the first half of
october.

april


>hey gang- from the ultimate band list mailing i just got:
>
>ticket giveaways: clint black, blink 182, indigo girls

><a href = "http://www.ubl.com/fp.asp?layout=main_contest_page" >win
>tickets

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any longtime fan of rush has already noticed their tendancy to explore a
"feel" of music for 4 albums, then put out a live cd, and then switch
styles and start the cycle over again.

well, quite a while ago, i started to notice a similar pattern for ig.
leaving out strange fire...  ig was very folksy and acoustic...  nis was
more of the same, only more complex and with better production.  rop
added strings and more complex song styles...  so seemed to tighten up
this second idea, similar to how nis did with the first.  then came
sots, which departed in major ways with production, edginess, and
hard-core political themes on quite a few of the songs...  and here i
find myself listening to cons, which seems to be the "second try" for
this style.

anyone else see this going on?
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100% agreement graham!

each album seems to make for a better next album.  who knows?  sots could
end up my favorite album as it made cons possible.

melissa
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> any longtime fan of rush has already noticed their tendancy to explore a
> "feel" of music for 4 albums, then put out a live cd, and then switch
> styles and start the cycle over again.
>
> well, quite a while ago, i started to notice a similar pattern for ig.
> leaving out strange fire...  ig was very folksy and acoustic...  nis was
> more of the same, only more complex and with better production.  rop
> added strings and more complex song styles...  so seemed to tighten up
> this second idea, similar to how nis did with the first.  then came
> sots, which departed in major ways with production, edginess, and
> hard-core political themes on quite a few of the songs...  and here i
> find myself listening to cons, which seems to be the "second try" for
> this style.
>
> anyone else see this going on?
> --
> graham ames
> mcgee@oregontrail.net
> http://www.oregontrail.net/~mcgee/
> icq: 3857882  aol-im: hipebear
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from her poetico-email newsletter,
sent to you because i know you miss me and my forwards. (ha.)
please fwd to the baigls and any interested parties.

here's to unexpected path crossings.
and watch out for those cats
and other things that unexpectedly bite and leak.

jill the still-unsubbed
------------------------------------------------------------
rose polenzani changes on the road.
october 6th, 1999

let me tell you. i had the wreckingest beginnings of this tour, and the
whole time i was trying to do everything by the book. i tried to decide all
things in advance, and i even knew the days i would be doing laundry. but
all that happens before i get on the highway going the wrong way and before
the cat pisses on my clothes. remember that the cat can always piss on your
clothes, and you'll have to make room for that.

now i am free as a bird, and most things i can take in stride. because of my
new motto. the motto is: when in the wretched curses of frustration, go to
bed.

when you wake up, i'll be playing the following shows..........rose

tour schedule
wednesday tonight! 10/6 providence, ri 9:30pm
dimension, 98 fountain street with lorna hunt, libby kirkpatrick, and maya
dorn. who i know will make you wet (whet) your pants.

thur, 10/7 syracuse, ny. 7:20pm
opening for the indigo girls at the landmark theater
362 south salina st.

fri, 10/8 cambridge, ma. 9:30pm
lizard lounge, 1667 massachussetts ave. 617-547-0759, a 21+ venue
3 artists: me, michelle malone, and meghan toohey (i play first)

sun, 10/10 black rock (bridgeport), ct. 7pm
acoustic cafe
(203) 335-folk  $6

mon, 10/11  lodi, nj. 7pm
support our sisters house concert, 35 vreeland st.
call or email for reservations and directions mich329@hotmail.com
1-973-546-2874.  sponsored by now. $8

tues, 10/12 new york city. 7:50pm
beacon theater, 74th and broadway, opening for the indigo girls
$35 ticketmaster (212) 307-7171

sun 10/14 athens, ga. the 40 watt club

fri, 10/15 decatur, ga. 9:30 pm
eddie's attic, 511-b north mcdonough st
(404) 377-4976. opening for beth wood.

sat, 10/16 decatur, ga. 9:30pm
eddie's attic, 511-b north mcdonough st
(404) 377-4976. opening for michelle malone

fri, 10/22 lansing, mi. 8pm
michigan state university, common grounds coffeehouse-- basement of akers
hall. (517) 353-4936 $3 students/ $5 general public.
tamara bedricky opens. http://www.msu.edu/~cgrounds.com

mon. 11/01 phoenix, az union hall opening for the indigo girls!

tue. 11/02 claremont ca at pamona college opening for the indigo girls!

fri. 11/05 la, ca wiltern theater opening for the indigo girls!

sat 11/06 san fran, ca berklee community theater opening for the indigo
girls!
............................
more dates are being added all the time. please keep watching the website
tour schedule, especially if it looks like i'm crossing your path.

and when i cross your path, it will not be the way any of us expected.


to order copies of the new cd, anybody, send a check for $15 to daemon
records, po box 1207, decatur, ga 30031

your fan,
rose

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hkf's,

here's my two pence about ig and the new album...

fave albums: rop & so.
honorable mention: ig & then nis
basically, sots was my least fave album and cons is in the middle of the
pack - somewhere around nis/sf - but definitely not in the top 2.  sots grew
on me after time and i assume that cons will as well, but for now the last
two albums aren't at the top of my ig listening-list.

i definitely don't like the fact that the last two albums are amy songs w/
emily on backup vocals and vice versa.  my favorite songs/boots of ig are
when you have both amy & emily singing their guts out to those old
favorites...  like uptown girls, blood & fire... etc.  on those early 90's
performances you really hear the collective band called the "indigo girls"
and you had no idea there was such a thing as amy or emily.  it's not that
amy & emily's strong personalities weren't shining in the performances back
then, it was more that their sound together was their heart & soul and
really defined who they were as musicians and you didn't even need to look
at them separately.

fast-forward 7 years and i find myself talking about amy & emily separately
instead of talking about the magic of simply the indigo girls.  i wonder if
i was on this list in 1992 and would be talking about amy's solo career or i
would even fathom the possibility of amy or emily playing music by
themselves instead of together.

so my point, or one of them, is that even though i understand amy & emily
maturing as musicians and as people, i still would really like them to
gravitate more towards the "indigo girls" sound, instead of the "amy" or
just "emily" sound.  i think there is another mystery or secure yourself on
the horizon, or maybe i know they still have the potential for that kind of
sound.  but in the continuous evolution of amy, emily & their music, maybe
those types of songs aren't possible anymore.  that's not to say they won't
sing any more beautiful, new songs together - but maybe just a different
type of beautiful music.  even though i still enjoyed their last two albums,
i just hope they can bring out some old-harmony-habits in their next effort.

whoa!
too long...

thanks for listening,
mike

a+e=ig

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yay caps lock.

anticipation et denouement: a split 7" single. features erin mckeown's
"daisy and prudence" and leigh marble's "blankets for two".

you want this record.  trust me on this.
even if you don't own a record player.
because someday you'll, like, come across one at a yard sale or something.
and then you'll run home with your $3 fisher price turntable and weep,
"finally i can hear daisy and prudence."
(i have yet to hear the undoubtedly slinkster leigh marble, but i'm sure
you'll be weeping equally over blankets for two.)

and then you'll have to find me in whatever
tree-hugging third-world sustainable-living
socialist postmarxist collective i'm living in
and say, through your tears of joy and aural elation,
jill, you were right.  you were so right.

plug plug: if you pre-order (that would entail going to
http://www.erinmckeown.com and going to the 'order' clicky button) mckeown's
album monday morning cold on cd,
you get the 7" (that's indie-speak for 'little record')
for a buck.  both albums for $13.
you canna beat that, not even with a very long pole.

*j

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i know its late notice but i have 2 extra patriot center tickets available.
please let me know asap if anyone is interested in these tickets.  they are
in section 109 seats 5 and 6 row u.

thanks
sandy

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(well, some of them.)
one of which is sarah pinsker.
sarah is so ultra-slinkster-hipster-snazzster-cool.
she opened her apartment (well, floor) to me when we'd never even met before
(which could be a pretty scary bet; i'm a surprise every time).
wow.  and then i got to hear this chica play guitar.
holy jesus, mary mother of god, and other various assorted saints.
she's incredible, is like bar chord queen, and her songwriting is sharp and
funny as hell.  no wonder sonia from disappear fear asked her to open for
her.  indeed, ms. pinsker is quite a good thing.
i think she should let us know when her album's coming out.
sarah?

jill

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rose loves meeeeee! see, i begged and pleaded and bugged rose to open for this
show and it worked. i'm so gosh darned excited that i've finally gotten her
over to claremont. i'm so excited that i will ignore her spelling of pomona.
excuse me but i must now write a thank you email to her and beg and plead for
her presence at the motley coffee house.
-sam (watching her sea monkeys spaz about their ocean zoo)


> tue. 11/02 claremont ca at pamona college opening for the indigo girls!
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i listened to cons w/the headphones while walking home
yesterday (the only way to appreciate it), and i've
got a few more thoughts.

first, a correction.  the "ooohs" on soon be to
nothing are really "aaahs."  and they're not really
"ooohs" on ozillene either, but i don't know a more
descriptive word for them.

and they haven't really killed gone again.  it's still
cool even though i don't like the drum intro and that
whistle part on the bridge has to go.

i saw somebody post a mister limes, so it must be open
season.  in the pre-cons live versions of stbn, i
thought emily was singing "healing our men" instead of
"healing the then."  made me wonder what emily'd been
up to.  and on faye tucker i thought amy said, "that's
why i'd kill 'em both ways" instead of "that's why
killin' don't pay."  and on the album version of peace
tonight, that first line "pick the red corner shoes"
sounds like "pick the red padashu (pot-of-shue? ok, i
can't spell that. y'know, the stuff they make gnocchi
out of. i think i spelled that right.)"  little red
dumplings would look good for valentines.  and on
philosophy of loss, i thought emily was saying "the
doors are open to all the scrapement and women," and i
thought scrapement was her term for "wretched souls"
or something. then i recorded just that song to a wav
file on my puter so i could have it as a separate
track and i realized she sings "all the straight men
and women."  excuse me while i go get "scrapement"
copyrighted...

trouble is an emily song??  this is one heck of a
song, even though i can't sing along (don't worry,
i'll find a way).  i especially like that line
"there's more than one kind of criminal white collar."

emily's a little tough on the church on this album,
ain't she.

at points, natacha atlas' chanting on faye tucker
reminds me of jewel yodeling.  and if anybody's
throwing a big halloween party, you gotta record amy's
laugh and use it to greet your guests.

i looked up "ngoni" on the web and found something
that says it's a dialect spoken in mozambique?

some themes from cons that stuck in my mind:
amy's feeling sisterly (sister, ozilline)
emily's in some trouble (trouble, we are together)
amy gets naked a lot ("undress me now," "i stood
without clothes and danced in the sand")

oh wait, fugitive is on an earlier album.

i think we are together would sound better with
another line at the end of the chorus instead of just
the "yeahs."  something like:
  we are together finally
  and the dog caught up with the rabbit is laughing
hysterically
  we are together, you and me
  and we'll have the dog and the rabbit over for
scones and tea

i don't like the connotations of that last line in
andy.

and emily's gorgeous in the album pics!

lori ann


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date:         wed, 6 oct 1999 19:17:11 edt
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i recently joined the ig list and wanted to make you all aware that i have
created a discussion list for barbara kessler, another folksinger.  i first
saw barbara open for the indigo girls in 1994 in new hampshire and have been
a fan ever since...she's very folky and funny and reminds me a lot of dar
williams, patty larkin, jonatha brooke, and beth wood. if you want to check
out barbara's homepage, you can go to : www.barbarakessler.com and if you are
interested in joining the discussion list (it's very small at the moment) you
can go to www.onelist.com/community/barbarakessler.

looking forward to ig discussions :) lisa

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ok, so i know this is *very* superficial, but i figured it was ok..we need
somthing to balance out the deep-what-is-the-meaning-of-sbtn thread. am i
alone, or did anyone else notice the excess of color on amy's lips in the
picture on the cons jacket? if i didnt know her better, i would think it
was lipstick.  any thoughts?
-sarah


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  a&e  "i will walk down the street. i will hold my head high. i will say
   #    hello to everyone i meet. i will have love in my heart.  when i
   #    have hate, i will turn my hate into energy. and when i have anger,
  _#_   i will turn my anger into energy. when i am negative, i will be
( # )  negative only for as long as i need to be, until i understand it
/ o \  and then i will be positive. and i will not be complacent. and i
( === ) will not be complacent. and i will not be a racist. and i will not
'---'  a sexist. and i will not be a homophobic asshole. and i will love.
and i will love. and i will be happy that i am alive."  -amy ray

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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 02:02:20 +0200
reply-to:     michal rogson <starr@netvision.net.il>
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hey y'all (guess i've taken a stance on that one, huh?!)

well, i'm back in israel and no longer an indigo girls concert virgin!
woo hoo!  yowza,  but emily rocks my world... that she can write lyrics
like she does (well, not necessarily on cons, but okay) and still play
that guitar *that* way... ouch.  too much.  too good.  too true.  on the
other hand, the noise level was occasionally too much - when i could no
longer distinguish between instruments and the song was just one blended
booming *noise* i'll admit, i sort of lost interest.  i love the
subtlety of instruments blending into each other to make beautiful
music.  and the sound guy sucked anyway, the guitars had mega feedback
on, like, two songs.
but i heard ghost, and the made everything all right again. ;)

and neil and andi rawk!  they are just the sweetest, cutest, most
hospitable couple - sheep, hedgehog and all!  however, i must say that,
tying with neil and andi for sweetest, cutest, most hospital couple
would be sarah pinsker and j, who most hospitably hosted me in baltimore
- picked me up from the bus station, drove me to virginia to see rose
and erin (erin is really an excellent performer, by the way! - like a
jazzy un-crusader-like version of ani.  totally unexpected) and tried to
forcefeed me all the kosher food they had in the house!   man, i love
this list.

but what most needs to be said is that sarah p's music is wonderful.
did i leave baltimore with rose songs in my head?  erin?  nope.  i left
baltimore with "tattooed clean" and "i'm not nice"  running through my
head.  so all i can say is - if sarah and her band are playing anywhere
near you - run don't walk to see them.  they'll surprise you - i
guarantee it.

oh - and sarah, send me your addy, will you?  i'll send you a tape so i
can get some of those songs on hardcopy - i'm afraid my memory is
butchering your lyrics. ;)

it was great meeting diane (the energizer bunny) and bonding with kate
and lyndsay (it *was* lyndsay, right?) in the freezing needle-like rain
(go lyndsay singing channukah songs!), and let's not forget ed - the guy
who missed the show because the pittsburgh airport was closed who came
and stood outside afterwards anyway to get signatures - and ended up at
neil and andi's with us listees - whom i may have recruited to the list
;)  i could've done without the looong drive from baltimore to philly,
but oh well...

you guys really made this trip one wacky woderful ride - thanks!!

hey sherlyn - will it be this much fun if i find a way to get to
australia?!!
just wondering. ;)

enjoy the shows, y'all...

michal
showless yet again in israel

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hey folks,

this is the philadelphia inquirer review that dana
mentioned...

-sherlyn

---begin article---
indigo girls' adult themes attract a young audience
by a.d. amorosi
for the inquirer

to the surprisingly young crowd that filled the tower theater monday
night for the first of two sold-out shows, you'd think the indigo
girls would be an anomaly.

the duo - the saltier, patti smith-lite amy ray and the softer,
gentler emily saliers - weave an intricate pattern of acoustic and
electric sounds, and speak of adult themes. so it seems odd that
they drew such an audience in a marketplace devoted to hip-hop,
thrash funk and dance pop.

but in raffish live performance, the indigos' varied points of
conflict are boiled down to a predominant theme: freedom and
self-reliance at any cost. surely, that's what appeals to the
knapsack-carrying girls and the boys they brought. as the indigos
sally forth with a bruised but optimistic folk-punk sensibility,
their crowd responds viscerally, closing their eyes, singing along,
creating a vigil.

coming out to a thunderously loud "go" and the bouncing banjo tune
"get out the map," the indigos set the evening's tone, a blend of
bluster and dark provocation balanced with gauzy, earthy
tenderness. the raging guitars, set mostly to ray's "razor on a
wire" sound of "this train" and the hangman-style ballad "sister",
often obscured melodic subtleties. but oddly enough, the indigos
harness big rock well.

that's not to say their big moments are their best - far from it.
grand anthems such as "closer to fine" and the rock-and-rolling
"shame on you" seem syrupy and self-consciously buoyant, like john
mellencamp numbers. their best moments come when the music oozes,
winding its way through serious lyrical intentions.

dark ballads, such as "chickenman" and the everly brothers-style
chamber pop of "ghost," were filled with shadowy chord changes to
match their intimate messages. most effective was the new ballad
"andy," reminiscent of harry chapin's elegant, twisting melody
lines.

opener rose polenzani was a perfect foil to the indigos' big
sound. she goaded her listeners, playfully regaling them with
stories of death, grandfathers and football. along with a
guitarist prone to slide-guitar dust bowl noise, polenzani moaned
and cajoled her way through thoroughly original ambient prairie
folk.

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don't know if this has been posted yet or not. been on the list for years, but am
usually just a lurker. just saw on www.clicktv.com that the girls will be on rosie
o'donnell mon., oct. 11 and the view on fri., oct. 15.

i'll be gone coordinating/participating in the texas aids ride from the 11th-18th.
if you are in houston on the 14th, come cheer us out for opening ceremonies at the
astrodome. or cheer us in for closing ceremonies in kennedy memorial plaza on main
st. in downtown dallas at 4pm on the 17th. call (888) 780-ride to volunteer or more
info.

tobye nelson
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here's what i'm doing... i'm entering the contest, even though i can't
make any of those shows... if i win, i'll offer them up to anyone who
can (i'd probably make it a trivia contest or something to give
digesties, busy people, etc all a fair chance...).  anyone else is
welcome to take my idea in the spirit of helping out our fellow
listmembers... and hopefully later on they'll offer the later shows and
maybe i'll get a chance at those if anyone from the east wins them.  i
say, let's flood the box with list entries! ;-)

shannon
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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list but is more appropriate
for here instead... please direct your replies to the
original sender at mariavee@aol.com, not to me...

-sherlyn

---begin forwarded message---
>from: mariavee@aol.com
>date: wed, 6 oct 1999 12:00:11 edt
>subject: philly 10/5 show boot anyone?
>
>puh-leese tell me someone booted the 10/5 philly show - it rocked! dancing,
>singing, laughing, a marriage proposal, stories, and a great band....
>

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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list but is more appropriate
for here instead... please direct your replies to the
original sender at jindigo2@aol.com, not to me...

-sherlyn

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>date: wed, 6 oct 1999 15:58:27 edt
>
>when are they gonna friggin tour the midwest dammit!?
>

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ok i am back on the list after annoying everyone trying to get off.  i never did totally change my email address.  if anything i here to ask if the ms. beccie lyons would please write me.
and back to ur regular ig programming
tat

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>wow.  and then i got to hear this chica <sarah pinsker> play guitar.
>holy jesus, mary mother of god, and other various assorted saints.
>she's incredible

sarah, can i come sleep on your floor too? if that's too much, will you
tell me where we can hear you play?!

-sue

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i have two tickets for the 11/4 show at the wiltern in l.a. that i can't use.
orchestra, row y, seats 10 & 12. $36.75 apiece. come and get em!

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hey all-
        i wasnt really paying attention after the bumbershoot show and was
wondering if anyone had a good boot and was circulating it.  i got a great
recording and want to criculate it on atree or something. so i am looking
for a couple people to help.  i want a tree for people witth cd
recorders(which i have) and a tree for people with tape ecorders so everyone
has access to the great music of this show.  i also would like someone with
editting capabilities to help me out because there is a point when a usher
busted me [he eventually let me tape as long as one of his supervisors didnt
catch me, he was really chill] but he spoke pretty much right into my
microphone for about a minute or so and then again for a couple seconds
later.  so i would like help developing the master to get out to everybody.
please contact me privately to set this up.  please do not contact if you
just want to be a branch or get the boot, another message will be sent out
later for that.  thanks y'all.
                                lynz

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hey-
        are there any cool people out there who bought more tickets than they need
for the first berkeley show, because, due to some misunderstandings, i need
more tickets.  if anyone has 1 or 2 extras please let me know.  also, i am
planning to tape the show and would like a better seat than i have, if any
here would like to contribute to the "lynz gets a great recording of ig at
berkeley" campaign, feel free to contact me.
                                        lynz

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hi y'all,

i haven't heard anyone mention anything about new merchandise at the
shows?  have we got cons shirts and hats to look forward to?  also is
there any word on any video clips for this album?

cheers,
annie

                "happiness is a by-product, not a goal"
                                -eleanor roosevelt

                "like leaves tapping on the bedroom window
                        when the wind is howling out,
                come the whispers of past wrongs we've done
                        and the jury's still out..."
                                -a.m.

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<snip>
.  i wonder if
i was on this list in 1992 and would be talking about amy's solo career or i
would even fathom the possibility of amy or emily playing music by
themselves instead of together.
</snip>

no in '92 we were discussing why they weren't popular, amy singing with
ellen james society, why i didn't have a life, how emily blew minds when she
sang "river" @ brandeis 12/4/92...

or, those are the memories i can print ..sagas such as the mystery traveler,
the infamous "is amy on aol" posts, the "well i sotrta saw them @ nff in 92,
but like it was only half a set. were other postings...

course i joined in october..something like 7 years ago..wierd..

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hey...

>i haven't heard anyone mention anything about new merchandise at the
>shows?  have we got cons shirts and hats to look forward to?

i looked at the merchandise being proffered and pronounced it 'crappy'. the
shirt design isn't anything special at all...

as i recall:

t-shirts (organically grown cotton):
     short sleeve: $28
     long sleeve: $40
baseball cap: $?
dog tag thing $10
probably something else too, but...

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'piano rolls'; james brown 'star time (box)'
song o' the week: 'god bless the child' - billie holiday

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hey y'all -

ok so ive been hanging out at my apt tonight - and
cant help but thinking 'hot damn...tomorrow night at
this time...ill be watching amy and emily doing their
thang!'  ahhhh!  cant wait!  (*and* i just had to
share that w a bunch of people who would understand
where im coming from!).

have y'all been able to take camaras into the
different venues?  how bout tape recorders?  does
anyone know anything regarding the landmark theater
and whether or not camaras and recorders are allowed??
ok fine if they are not allowed - ill just have to
get creative, huh?  *smile*  oh! and have they been
selling t-shirts and all that?  are they cool or
what??  *grin*

alrighty then...take good care!
thanks in advance for any info!

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all i've seen at the two ig shows ive been to are new tshirts.. two different
kinds.
one has an abstract picture of a silhouette type reaper (holding a gold
reaper).  on the back it simply reads "come on now social"
--im thinking this has something to do with their new cover song, "dont fear
the reaper"??
2. their second shirt has a picture of, i think, a wolf.  it's black and
white if i remember correctly.  underneath it reads "hey blue blood you're
nothing new, see i come from priveledge too".
--that's all for the new stuff.  28 bucks for the shirts.. no new stickers
yet :(
cold beer and bluegrass,
trooper

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someone mentioned earlier about there being a secret
track on 1200 curfews.  am i missing something?  how
come i can't find it.
samantha

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in a message dated 99-10-06 19:05:07 edt, liltree@yahoo.com writes:

<< i think we are together would sound better with
another line at the end of the chorus instead of just
the "yeahs."  something like:
   we are together finally
   and the dog caught up with the rabbit is laughing
hysterically
   we are together, you and me
   and we'll have the dog and the rabbit over for
scones and tea >>


i completely agree with you.  the yeah yeah yeah sounds kinda immature but
they have grown on me.


indi

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i am a digest person, apologies if this has been announced.

friday nov 12, mercer arena 8pm
the fabulous indigo girls!!

no onsale date that i could find, and i can't call while i'm online!

hot ^*&$

paulal

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it is track 14...not listed in the liner notes

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$28.00 for for a  tee shirt? ha. wo man!  i
wouldn't pay that much for any ig shirt.
i'd say  22.00, that's more like it.  :-)

peace

barb

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hey everyone.
i'm loving the new cd, although i admit i'm having a hard time getting int
trouble. one thought though is about soon be to nothing. i just can't help
but thinking every time i hear it that it would sound so much better if amy
sang the end of the choruses ("i'll soon be to nothing but i don't know
when"). or at least if they traded off on the lines a little, reminicent of
power of two. i don't know, it just seems like it would fit that way, at
least in my head.
hope everyone's having a great night. i'm looking forward to seeing the
girls at amhearst next week- by the way- anybody know who's opening for them
there?
-karen p

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at the shows, they are selling organically grown cotton tee shirts.

one (short-sleeved t-shirt) has a blue wolf cracking a duck's head and the
caption:
"hey blue blood, you're nothing new
see i come from privilege, too..."
back: indigo girls, with '1998' in the bottom right corner.
cost: $28 (or is it 25?)

then there is the long- and short-sleeved t-shirt versions of the 'come on
now social" logo (which is on the back).  the picture on the front is a
silhouette of a woman holding a scythe over her head, ready to harvest
(whack) the grain in her hand--the grain being somehow a continuation of her
hair.  it's against an orange background. and 'indigo girls' is the caption
below the pic.
cost: $28 for short; $40 for long.

they also are selling dog tags ($10) with the same pattern as described
above.

amy mentioned at each show, about the indigo girls resource table in the
lobby.  it's a couple of tables of literature and displays about the causes
they list on their cd booklet, as well as local causes to 'go, go, go' for.
here in pennsylvania, she emphasized the death penalty, and how pa is the
third in number of death penalties each year.

hope that answers your question, anne.

diane


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michael cunningham writes that  sots is all
"amy songs w/emily on back-up."  with that
my question is , "what about  'get out  the map," 'caramia," 'it's
alright',  'leeds,'  and 'everything in it's own time,'  and burn all
the
letters?"  it seems to me that  emily's getting
passed on by, because a few  are different from
her  earlier stuff?

i see emily all over the last two albums.  and
amy too.,,micchael does have a point though,
i do hear them a lot stronger as a group, in
their  classics like "pushing the needle," "ten
thousand wars,' " strange fire."   but it just doesn't come out as
strong when it's drowned
out by electronics.  my two cents worth.

peace

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>from:    that loud girl <strange_fire66@hotmail.com>
>
> from the duke university article...anyone wanna step up and tell amy ray
>that she's a good guitarist?:

amy's always been modest about her guitar skills.  one of my favorite
moments was in concert when amy's guitar was out of tune, and she had to
stop mid-song to tune.  she laughed that sometimes she wished she were
emily, because emily could've played right through it.  probably one of
those ya-had--to-be-there moments. :-)

i must say, though, she's playing a mean mandolin these days!

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>from:    memememi@aol.com
>subject: boot requests
>
>hi everyone,
>
>i am looking to trade for the following boots of the recent shows in
>
>savannah, ga
>knoxville, tn
>philadelphia, pa (both nights!)

i just want to say thanks to the people who don't wait for boot requests to
share their fortune.  i'm hoping to record a decent boot of friday's show
in fairfax, va, and if i do (doubtful, frankly, given the venue) i will
tree it to the list (as i did newport '98 and md lilith '98 and the 9:30
club and others), or send it to someone who has time to tree it (as i sent
the 9:30 club boot to tara for the cd tree).  this list has a long history
of sharing worthwhile boots, and i sincerely hope that those fortunate
enough to have good recordings of recent shows (ones in which jilly was not
screaming "stand up!  get up!" <g>)  will continue that tradition.  suffice
it to say that there are a *lot* of people on this list who would be
interested in boots of one or all of the above shows, and i hope that if
someone has them, they will make an effort to share it with everyone,
rather than set up a one-to-one trade with people who happen to ask for them.

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>from:    justin shumaker <shuey@amarillonet.com>
>
>it seems that since the release of sots and into the cons era, many have
>been commenting that these two albums represent the continuing divergence of
>amy and emily as writers.  often have i read something like "it seems like
>they're not a duo anymore, but two solo performers backing each other up."
>
>so amy gets amy-er, and emily gets emily-er, right?

i think that's where you made a leap many of us haven't.  just because one
assumes that they aren't as much a part of each other's music doesn't
necessarily mean that their music won't evolve.

>however, we've also noticed and commented on how amy and emily seem to be
>adopting and adapting each others' styles into their own music..."trouble",
>for example, is a driven rocker by...emily?!?  and "ozillene" is a folksy
>acoustic appalachian ditty by...amy?!?

i certainly wouldn't assume that "trouble" is rockin' because of amy's
influence, nor would i credit emily for influencing "ozziline".  the
prominent roles of ulali and atlas on their last 2 cds, their trip to cuba,
and the celtic flavor of faye tucker imply a number of outside influences
on their music, and we can safely assume many others.  i think that even
solo their music would evolve on a regular basis.  but let's say you're
right... how is this kind of influence different from the influence of
others who are not in the band?  i don't think that makes them a band.  to
me, that requires active participation in the recording of each other's
music (since they write independently).

and *that* is why i still think they're more than just splitting solo time
on cons.  listen to each song, and imagine what it would sound like without
the 'minor' partner's vocals and instruments.

what is criminal, imo, is that the production reduces their respective
contributions to something nearly any session musician could have
contributed.  the decreased emphasis on vocals (both lead and background)
in particular greatly diminishes the studio product for me.  i can't fathom
a mix in which their backing vocals are barely recognizable, how does that
happen?!  there is no vocal duo performance on this cd that  even
approaches, say, gotm (unlike mike c., i don't think that magic disappeared
on sots).  it's not that the moments aren't there on cons, but they're buried.

i can't wait to see them on friday so i can hear the real thing!

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i finally got my ticket to the 2nd berkeley show!  im in row r i believe.
but,  *sniff, sniff*  im going all by myself, so if there's going to be a
list meet of any kind in the bay area, let me know!!!!

**tricia**

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hi y'all,

just back from the lowell show.....it was an interesting night. i'd like to
write a review just glowing with warmth, love and harmony but i have to be
cranky instead! oh no, it wasn't our sheroes....they were in fine form as
always. rather, it was the crowd. this review should be titled, "who let
the baboons out of the zoo for the evening?"...it was absolutely amazing.
we (me and about a dozen scattered baigls) were planted neatly in the third
and fifth row, by a stroke of fate and ticketbastard. butt! the chycks in
front of us...that would be row 2, were so obnoxious it was almost
impossible to enjoy the show!

first off, these folks at the tsongas arena are nutso for allowing beer and
wine to be served throughtout the show. the chycks in front of us were
hammered...not just silly, pleasantly drunk, but slosherooed, and they
proceeded to talk at full voice level and kiss and hug each other every
thirty seconds and squeal into my mic as i was attempting to boot. argh! we
finally had to ask the main offender to shutthehellup and of course, she
was indignant that we did so.

økay, enough bitching...the set was great, a nice mix of old and new...i
don't have the exact setlist, but it included : peace tonight, land of
canaan, this train revised, faye tucker, ozilline (can you beat that one
live? i thinks not!!), ghost, power of 2, trouble, and they *opened(* with
closer to fine.

the extra special baboon moment of the evening came when, at the end of
scooter boys (one of the encore tunes) amy was singing her quiet, soulful
"hey blue blood you're nothing new..." as the song fades out and the head
baboon shouted out "galileo!!!!". amy looked disgusted, 90% of us were
mortified. as she wrapped up the song, amy said "and now, here's a song for
all those of you who didn"t shout during the quiet part of that song!!!".
it was so embarraaaaassssing. i wanted to die and crawl ito a whole,
preferably not one in lowell, massachusetts. sigh.

they looked great, sounded tight, and the butchies were, of course,
deeeelightful as the openers. but it was hard to enjoy it, really, given
the assholes surrounding. apparently, a huge brawl broke out some rows
behind us. i'm tellin ya, alkyhol and ig don't mix!!!!

okay, im exhausted. gnight now, and may dartmouth be better. or i may have
to start followuing around the backstreet boys for some civlity

hmph,
sus

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yeah, should we have a list meet on either the saturday or sunday shows?  it
would be cool to go somewhere and jam for a while, but i don't anywhere to
go, so if anyone has any suggestions...

wendell

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i know that someone out there has a boot, but i don't know what the
quality is like...  i'm hoping to get a boot of this show when they come
out -- quite an excellent show.

btw, i have a cd-r, and would be happy to host a branch of a boot tree
for bumbershoot, if someone will make a note of that and count me in the
loop.

lynz floren wrote:
>
> hey all-
>         i wasnt really paying attention after the bumbershoot show and was
> wondering if anyone had a good boot and was circulating it.

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hey,
     just wanted to add a little tid bit about the show.  after amy made the
comment about all those that didn't shout out galileo... she turned toward
the drums and crossed one arm over the other giving the "f*** you" gesture.
wow...i have never seen amy so upset but she did lighten up half way through
galileo. also the fight that broke out was pretty intense too. three of the
event staff guys couldn't even contain the fighting.  then the cops show up
after the whole thing was over with...figures.  what a night!

take care peps and don't fight with your neighbor at indigo girls
shows...it's not good manners!
-kristin

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hey...i have a boot from bumbershoot, although it's of variable quality and
some of the songs are incomplete (as it was made from the repeat webcast and
i was booted off a couple of times).  if you want more info on it, email me
privately...but i'll betcha there are some better ones than the one i have
floating around out there.

mis

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i also have a mr. lime with trouble.  when emily says " 'cause there's more than one kind of criminal white collar" i thought that she was saying "criminal white power" instead of "criminal white collar".  i guess they'd both kind of make sense, but when i looked at the word, i was like "ahhhhh..."

:-) karen

remember to get your votes in for your favorite cons song to karen_chun@keromail.com with your vote in the subject heading!  :-)

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if i saw my choice, i might find my voice, but i don't know when and i just can't tell."
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mr lime for you:
"and, like, the inverse of another..."
as opposed to "and light the embers of another"
in 'sister.'

*any more rumours about a milw show?!...nikki?*

--sarah (who just had a really weird dream about a killer bathroom stall
and a tissue paper tee shirt.--don't ask)

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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 08:37:29 -0400
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i have to sign off for a few days because i am starting fall break
tomorrow, but if there happens to be boot talk of the oct 4th show, can
someone please pass on the info to me?

thanks muchly,
alisa

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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 05:48:07 -0700
reply-to:     lisa ann <listadd@yahoo.com>
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hey guys
just had to share with you... so i went into a music
store yesterday while i was at the mall.  it was an
hmv store.  they had cons on the wall in their #8
spot!  after i got over that little bit of happiness i
was wondering around seeing what they had at the
listening stations and i realized that they had cons
at the first station, just as you walk into the store,
along with the new paula cole and melissa e.  i wanted
to hear the new melissa but a girl got there before
me.  she picked up a copy of cons and i could tell she
was just rocking to go.  she was like, aw, yeah, this
song is cool.  and she walked away with cons to go buy
it!  and then, after listening to a few snipets of
songs on breakdown, i was able to get my "sister fix."
and while i was listening to it (sort of trying to
pretend it was new to me!) i saw the window display -
cons.  huge 3-d type thing of the album cover and then
below it the picture in the corn field.  they had
straw and some autumn-holloween things hanging on the
side and on the floor around the display.  so, cons is
#8 in that store.  any word on its place on the real charts?

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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 08:39:35 -0400
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just a quick note from honor the earth to everyone to let you know we have
an update on the yucca mountain plans. please go to
http://www.honorearth.com/nuclear/nuke990910.html
for the latest news. it's horrible and something must be done. though it
isn't quite up on the website yet, please feel free to email the secretary
of the department of energy, who's planning on spending 35 billion more
dollars on this project to dump nuclear waste in an active volcano.....it's
amazing what our government thinks up. his name is bill richardson, and his
email is:  the.secretary@hq.doe.gov
also, please write or email your local government. if you have trouble
finding their contact info, give me a holler and i'll do my best to find it
for you.

also, i've been told the girls have been having an honor the earth table at
most of their shows lately. please stop by and see us! greta and i may work
at the athens and atlanta shows, if we're not working, we hope to go
anyways! hope to see some familiar faces!

until next time,
kristen
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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 09:32:13 -0400
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sus wrote:

> the extra special baboon moment of the evening came when, at the end of
> scooter boys (one of the encore tunes) amy was singing her quiet, soulful
> "hey blue blood you're nothing new..." as the song fades out and the head
> baboon shouted out "galileo!!!!". amy looked disgusted, 90% of us were
> mortified. as she wrapped up the song, amy said "and now, here's a song for
> all those of you who didn"t shout during the quiet part of that song!!!".
> it was so embarraaaaassssing. i wanted to die and crawl ito a whole,

people are such assholes- they can be so inappropirate at times.  a
physical fight broke out about 4 rows behind me - i hate to see women
fighting - i hate to see anyone fighting.  yes indeed, the baboons were
out last night.  it was a great show none-the-less.  scooter boys was
the best!  kind of disappointed they didn't do "compromise".  emily
prefaced soon be to nothing by saying it was a song about a journey to
find peace - in search of peace in one's life, or something to that
effect.  both  amy & emily were so cute and looked extremely happy.
some chatter, not a lot.

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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 09:54:08 edt
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in a message dated 10/6/99 10:06:34 pm central daylight time,
arle@hotmail.com writes:

<< here in pennsylvania, she emphasized the death penalty, and how pa is the
third in number of death penalties each year. >>

can't wait to hear what she says on that issue when they play here in texas!!!

pam

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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 09:51:32 -0400
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i was there too- it was my first ig concert, and i thought the audience
was rude as anything, not just to the girls (how could anyone put on a
good performance with people screaming the name of a different song at
you???)  but also to the opening band- hardly anyone past the first
floor section was clapping.  i know some ig fans don't like that sounds,
but even if you don't particularly like the music, it's polite to thank
people for putting their effort out for you. that takes guts.

the concert itself was a little weird for me because i was there with 7
girls i didn't know.  but that didn't stop me from loving the concert
itself.

i didn't see the fight break out, but i'm sorry, there's just absolutely
no excuse for that.

also, i loved "least complicated".  it's one of my favorits by them, and
it was exactly the song i needed to hear last night.  :)

by the way, the butchies walked right past my seat, and it took me a
minute to realize who they were, but i finally did just as the last one
was walking by, and said, "that was really great."  and the really
really tall one gave me this shy grin, and was like, "thank you" in this
really thick south carolina accent.  it was very cute, i thought.


anyway, overall, a great concert, if the audience hadn't been there.

ruth
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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 08:51:34 -0400
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>from:    lori ann <liltree@yahoo.com>
>
>trouble is an emily song??  this is one heck of a
>song, even though i can't sing along (don't worry,
>i'll find a way).  i especially like that line
>"there's more than one kind of criminal white collar."

i'm probably in the minority, but i don't like this line... like "soon be
to nothing," logic and grammar are sacrificed for the sake of rhyme, meter,
or in this case a forced analogy ("white collar criminal" does not =
"criminal white collar").

sherlyn, you were all over the grammar in sots, help me out here. :-)

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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 08:55:48 -0400
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at 08:00 pm 10/06/99 , you wrote:
>subject: barbara kessler discussion list (nigc)
>
>i recently joined the ig list and wanted to make you all aware that i have
>created a discussion list for barbara kessler, another folksinger.  i first
>saw barbara open for the indigo girls in 1994 in new hampshire and have been
>a fan ever since...she's very folky and funny and reminds me a lot of dar
>williams, patty larkin, jonatha brooke, and beth wood. if you want to check
>out barbara's homepage, you can go to : www.barbarakessler.com and if you are
>interested in joining the discussion list (it's very small at the moment) you
>can go to www.onelist.com/community/barbarakessler.

you forgot to mention that jerry marrotta has produced her cds... i believe
he "discovered" her, though i wouldn't swear to it.

she's great, reminds me most of shawn colvin.  good stuff, check it out.

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in a message dated 10/6/99 10:53:02 pm central daylight time,
indigo@mindspring.com writes:

<< what is criminal, imo, is that the production reduces their respective
contributions to something nearly any session musician could have
contributed.  the decreased emphasis on vocals (both lead and background)
in particular greatly diminishes the studio product for me.  i can't fathom
a mix in which their backing vocals are barely recognizable, how does that
happen?!  there is no vocal duo performance on this cd that  even
approaches, say, gotm (unlike mike c., i don't think that magic disappeared
on sots).  it's not that the moments aren't there on cons, but they're
buried. >>

many thanks to deb for articulating so clearly my major problem with this new
disc. on many songs, the vocals are so far under the music it could be me
singing back-up (something noone wants, i can assure you!).  the songs are
growing on me quite a bit, but the production will keep cons from being among
my favorites.  just pulled out rop the other day for a listen and oh my, it's
beautiful!  i don't mind different, but i would like to be able to hear the
voices and the lyrics with crystal clarity.  i sampled through the songs on
cons for my husband, who is not a huge fan, though he does have an
appreciation.  the wide range of styles and influences led to this comment:

"sounds a little like a novelty record to me!"  where is "wild, wild party in
the loquat tree" when you need it!!!!  actually, i listen to that song almost
every day during carpool and the request of the kids, ages 3-9.  that and
"blister in the sun!"  try explaining those lyrics to a six-year-old!  but i
digress....

thanks again deb :-)

pam in dallas

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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 14:15:08 gmt
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okay...i used to use a part of an emily song as my sig...but i can't find it
now.  it had something to do with trust and letting go...

please!!  help!!!  i need to find that lyric again. i've been all over
lifeblood but haven't found it yet.  i'm on my way back there, but i'm just
not finding it.

any ideas??  thanks in advance!!


remember....oct. 10 is national coming out day !!

peace and pride,
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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 10:22:28 edt
reply-to:     la8rga8r@aol.com
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well i just looked at the billboard online website (www.billboard.com) didn't
see cons on the top 100 albums list or peace tonight in the top 100 songs
list either.  somebody might want to go back and check the chart b/c i find
it hard to believe that wierd al and andrea bocelli are in the top 100 and
the girls aren't!


i'm in trouble.....
:p
tina

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wow!
i wanted to publicly thank jill and michal for their lovely praise: i didn't
even bribe them.  well, i guess i let them sleep in my house...imagine if i
had actually been able to supply pillows or blankets...my floor is open to
anyone who can be vouched for (and i'll vouch for jill and michal, cause
they were both pleasant guests even if michal wouldn't let me force feed her
all of my kosher food. unfortunately, my schedule of gigs is very sparse
right now, cause i've been working too many hours a day to manage to get
anything else done. if anybody is at a college with live music, or can land
me a good club or coffeehouse, they will be amply rewarded. i should be
opening for sonia & disappear fear again soon (though where, i can't yet
say), but the album will have to wait a little while longer...in the
meantime, i guess if anyone wants to hear my demo, or maybe some random live
stuff, they can send me a tape.

sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu

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it's interesting how pain can make you understand things clearer.  i've
recently gone thru a painful split and now, this song makes sense to me.  i
never understood what emily meant by "learn to pretend there's more than
love that matters"...but now i see...

i can pretend that there's more to live then love, but right now, getting
back my one true love is all that matters to me.  i'm sure as the levels of
my pain changes, i'll relate to all kinds of songs from a&e...unfortunately.


"and i wish her insight to battle love's blindness
strength from the milk of human kindness
a safe place for all the pieces that scattered
learn to pretend there's more than love that matters"


don't forget!!  oct. 10 is national coming out day!

peace and pride,
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on thu, 7 oct 1999 la8rga8r@aol.com wrote:

> well i just looked at the billboard online website (www.billboard.com) didn't
> see cons on the top 100 albums list or peace tonight in the top 100 songs
> list either.  somebody might want to go back and check the chart b/c i find
> it hard to believe that wierd al and andrea bocelli are in the top 100 and
> the girls aren't!

   if i go see the 10,000 maniacs at borders tonight, i'll take a look at
a billboard mag.

   (there are those of you going, "if?  is the boy looney?  i mean, why
the hell else would one go to college in western ny?" ...)

   darius

"i'm marked for death, and they send me on the road with a pr nerd."
  - allegra geller, "existenz"

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in a message dated 10/7/99 10:02:24 am eastern daylight time,
indigo@mindspring.com writes:

<< >trouble is an emily song??  this is one heck of a
>song, even though i can't sing along (don't worry,
>i'll find a way).  i especially like that line
>"there's more than one kind of criminal white collar."

i'm probably in the minority, but i don't like this line... like "soon be
to nothing," logic and grammar are sacrificed for the sake of rhyme, meter,
or in this case a forced analogy ("white collar criminal" does not =
"criminal white collar"). >>

hmmm.... i thought she was doing this to emphasize the "white collar" part,
as in the collar of a priest or something, as opposed to the white collar of
an executive or office worker.

-shana

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subject:      i love the lifeblood site !!
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i never knew that lifeblood had a search engine!!  that is so cool.  i found
the song i was looking for !!  the song was "it's alright" and the line i
was looking for was "it seems easier to push than to let go and trust".  i
can't believe it...a search engine actually found what i was looking for.

if the owner of that site is on this list...i love you!!!  *lol*

peace and pride,
- jen mek

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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 10:37:24 -0400
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i found this to be my favorite song on my recent trip to nashville and then
after i shared the story of my life with a&e (to all those listees that were
wondering what was in that manilla envelope that i sent backstage) i went to
the greenville show and em sang that song.  i cried. not totally bo-hooing,
just weepy a little.  i identified with this song and these lyrics wholly.
i understand your misery better than you can imagine, for i am going through
this too.  however, i believe i am one level of pain away from you.  i have
moved on a bit and am resigning myself to let fate take its course.  if we
are meant to be together then "everything in its own time", if not we will
go our separate ways.
i think i am more on the wood song now --
"sometimes i ask to sneak a closer look
skip to the final chapter of the book
and then maybe steer us clear from some of the pain it took
to get us where we are this far yeah
but the question drowns in it's futility
and even i have got to laugh at me
no one gets to miss the storm of what will be
just holding on for the ride"

pease, love, and indigo hugs,
nancy

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subject: love will come to you


it's interesting how pain can make you understand things clearer.  i've
recently gone thru a painful split and now, this song makes sense to me.  i
never understood what emily meant by "learn to pretend there's more than
love that matters"...but now i see...

i can pretend that there's more to live then love, but right now, getting
back my one true love is all that matters to me.  i'm sure as the levels of
my pain changes, i'll relate to all kinds of songs from a&e...unfortunately.


"and i wish her insight to battle love's blindness
strength from the milk of human kindness
a safe place for all the pieces that scattered
learn to pretend there's more than love that matters"


don't forget!!  oct. 10 is national coming out day!

peace and pride,
- jen mek

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hey all.  i recently received a boot from someone (thanks you!) with two
emily songs i've never heard before.  i was wondering if anyone knew if they
were her songs, or maybe covers... they are:
1. going to the country
2. for free

-they come from the red light cafe boot (2.25.96) when ig played with cooper
seay and m. malone.
thanks for any help!
:)
good day-
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hey all.  i recently received a boot from someone (thanks you!) with two
> emily songs i've never heard before.  i was wondering if anyone knew if they
> were her songs, or maybe covers... they are:
> 1. going to the country
> 2. for free

i know that "for free" is a joni mitchell song - it's on joni's "ladies
of the canyon" album.  i'm not sure though that this is the same one as
on the boot you have.

elaine

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at 11:18 am 10/07/99 , justin shumaker wrote:

> > i'm probably in the minority, but i don't like this line... like "soon be
> > to nothing," logic and grammar are sacrificed for the sake of rhyme, meter,
> > or in this case a forced analogy ("white collar criminal" does not =
> > "criminal white collar").
>
>i don't think this is a grammar issue.  i think emily may have put it this
>way anyway...by placing "white collar" at the end, you emphasize that part
>of it, making you think, "hmmm...white collar?  oh!  the clergy!"

oh yes, i know that.

>"there's more than one kind of white collar criminal..."
>
>nope.  doesn't sound right.

no, it doesn't.  i like the idea, but i don't think either works lyrically.


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> hmmm.... i thought she was doing this to emphasize the "white collar" part,
> as in the collar of a priest or something, as opposed to the white collar of
> an executive or office worker.

that's how i took it too...  there's more than one kind of criminal
white collar... meaning, there's more than one kind of white collar (on
a button down shirt, or on a priest) which can be performing criminal
acts.  here, specifically, acting against one's fellow man by
discriminating and preaching hatred of gays.

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i think the line says exactly what emily meant it to say....an indictment of
folks like phelps & co. who use the white collar as a means of dispensing
hate.  it's obvious that the events of the past year had a deep effect on
emily, and it's come out in her writing....

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>hmmm.... i thought she was doing this to emphasize the "white collar" part,
>as in the collar of a priest or something, as opposed to the white collar
of
>an executive or office worker.
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two
> > emily songs i've never heard before.  i was
> wondering if anyone knew if they
> > were her songs, or maybe covers... they are:
> > 1. going to the country
> > 2. for free

is this the red light cafe boot, by chance?  i'm
thinking going to the country is on that boot.  maybe
i need to look at it and see.  maybe i just dreamed it!

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oops, that's what i get for not reading all the posts
before replying... :-p

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there's an article at wallofsound.com that says the girls will be at no. 34
selling 41,000 copies.  now, i'm pretty sure that commercial success is not
one of the girls' top priorities, but didn't sots come in at no 7 or
something like that.  this seems like an incredibly steep drop off.  oh,
well, i love it!!!

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hi,

i'm thinking of making the trip across the border to
bellingham to see the show on nov.11. have tickets
gone on sale yet? am i too late?

m.


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hello all--

had to come out of lurkdom momentarily to agree wholeheartedly with the
post from sus about the lowell show.  i'm in a cranky mood, too, probably
for the first time after an ig show.  i've seen them many times in many
different venues over the years, and usually, the positive vibe from the
audience is a big part of what makes the shows so great.  community,
connection, unity, all that good stuff.

at the tsongas arena last night, though, there was a shocking level of
rudeness and lack of respect for the music the girls were working so hard
to perform, not to mention for other people who actually _were_ trying to
listen.  people in my section talked loudly among themselves through the
whole show, even the quiet numbers!  what's the point of going to a concert
and not listening?  like sus, i was embarrassed by the rude calls for
"galileo" during the quiet moment in "scooter boys."  and i'm glad amy let
it be known that she was irritated, just as i appreciate it when she thanks
us "for listening," as she so often does at shows.

better luck next show, i guess.  meanwhile, i'm enjoying listening to cons
now, to wipe out my memories of the audience from hell.

peace,
mp

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> i'm probably in the minority, but i don't like this line... like "soon be
> to nothing," logic and grammar are sacrificed for the sake of rhyme, meter,
> or in this case a forced analogy ("white collar criminal" does not =
> "criminal white collar").

i don't think this is a grammar issue.  i think emily may have put it this
way anyway...by placing "white collar" at the end, you emphasize that part
of it, making you think, "hmmm...white collar?  oh!  the clergy!"

"there's more than one kind of white collar criminal..."

nope.  doesn't sound right.

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i think it is supposed to be a field worker.  with the land kind of
flowing from the figure of the person, i took it to represent our
connection to the land as well as some kind of comment about workers.


on wed, 6 oct 1999, <erin tripp> wrote:

> all i've seen at the two ig shows ive been to are new tshirts.. two different
> kinds.
> one has an abstract picture of a silhouette type reaper (holding a gold
> reaper).  on the back it simply reads "come on now social"
> --im thinking this has something to do with their new cover song, "dont fear
> the reaper"??

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what is the original mr limes reference anyway? my
friends call this phenomenon (the general phenomenon
of mishearing things as something odd and more
interesting, not just in ig songs) baker's pink. don't
know what the original reference was there either :)

my mr. limes: in faye tucker i heard:
"if you live they gonna make you a computer
if you die they gonna make you a cray"
(cray is was s upercomputer).
actual lines of course
computer = campaigner, cray=grave

jon


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ok, so who knows what about the mercer arena?

amy m.

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does anyone have the chords to gone again? or anything else on cons
actually, except go, since joan already posted those? :0)

amy m.

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amen, pam.  i  couldn't agree more on cons,
one question though, do you like blister in the
sun as much as i?  i listen to it all the time, and
think that's an example of what a good performance does for a simple
song. i wish i  heard more ig gems  aside from what's out
officially.  :-)

peace,

barb

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a field worker.  with
> the land kind of
> flowing from the figure of the person, i took it to
> represent our
> connection to the land as well as some kind of
> comment about workers.

i took it to be hair flowing from the woman's head
(yes, it is a woman...it is slightly side profile:),
and maybe the hair represents something else.  i
dunno.  who knows?  none of their t-shirts ever make
any sense.  for once, it would be nice to have an ig
t-shirt that makes sense!  people are like "what is
that supposed to mean?" and i have no explanation!

peace!

joan :-d

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on mon, 4 oct 1999, vesper evensong wrote:

> i can hear sheryl crow quite clearly on cbrc...

y'know . . . i keep hearing joan osborne in "peace tonight" and thinking
she's sheryl.  (in the second verse, singing the really high part on
"calling on my good friends today," et al.)

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on tue, 5 oct 1999, joan morrison wrote:

> re: the xena and gabrielle posts on equipment crates - i wonder if this is
> sulli's doing?  doesn't she host xena night at my sister's room in atlanta?

*giggle*
boy . . . something about that just amuses me so much, it's indecent . . .
but then again, hey, i'm the obsessed one . . . i start to worry about
myself now, since i caught myself actively trying to convince a couple of
friends that amy and emily really, truly are x and g reincarnated . . .
literally, not just in a symbolic sort of way.

(of course, several now believe me.  *ulp*  what have i done?)

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on tue, 5 oct 1999, tamara zakim wrote:

> we're worried we won't sell all the tickets so we want to advertise
> off-campus. does anyone know what radio stations here in la play our girls?
> i need some help on this one.

kacd - santa monica/kbcd - newport beach, channel 103.1 (can you tell i
listen to that station a lot?) is the only station i know of that plays
them.  and how . . . when was the last time you ever heard "tried to be
true" or "hammer and a nail" on a los angeles radio station?  and, of
course, "peace tonight" is currently in heavy rotation . . . <g>

(don't mind me.  i'm just doing the shameless plug thing again.)

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hey guys,

sorry i've been kinda quiet lately.... i've been a bit busy.

anyhow, the details for the bristol listmeet are as follows....

the meet is at 12 midday in the ticket office of bristol temple meads
railway station. i'll probably wait 20 minutes from then to see who
turns up, and then go from there...

i'll be wearing a pair of cream chino trousers, a green t-shirt, and a
charcoal grey fleece hooded top.

reasons to come to bristol, hmmmmm....

1. ig togetherness. (like the borg, only safer....)

2. there is actually a place called watershed there :), good lunchtime
opportunities abound...

3. if you're really desperate, you can meet me.... (down ego!!!!
down!!!!!!!!)

anyway, i hope to see some of the uk listees there..... (and if you've
got a lot of money and a lot of time, maybe a usa listee :).... though
that's doubtful...)

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on wed, 6 oct 1999, lori ann wrote:

> trouble is an emily song??  this is one heck of a
> song, even though i can't sing along (don't worry,
> i'll find a way).  i especially like that line
> "there's more than one kind of criminal white collar."
>
> emily's a little tough on the church on this album,
> ain't she.

i've been thinking about this a lot lately.  way back when, it was amy who
really let fly with the harsh criticisms about the church.  ("strange
fire," anyone?  though to be fair, we caught a glimpse of this kind of
sentiment from em in "hey jesus.") now, emily's the one who's letting them
have it, big time!  between "trouble" and "philosophy of loss" here on
cons, she's brandishing quite the arsenal.

kinda like the way emily's rocking out more, and amy's getting more
acoustic these days.

reminds me of one of the articles at the lifeblood site, can't remember
which now, where emily says something about how they're "always like that,
[they're] just yin and yang."

ah, the magic of such a long-standing partnership . . .

> amy's feeling sisterly (sister, ozilline)
> emily's in some trouble (trouble, we are together)
> amy gets naked a lot ("undress me now," "i stood
> without clothes and danced in the sand")

*giggle*  y'know, in between that line from "compromise" and the picture
of them on the inside of the liner notes (standing in the river), i just
get the most distracting mental images while i'm listening to cons and
driving.  to saynothing of the images i get while listening to "sister"
and thinking about the origins of the song . . . yeah, i may be an emily
fan first and foremost, but hey, i'm openminded!

> i don't like the connotations of that last line in
> andy.

in what sense?  to take a tangent, it's always disturbed me that the
training of horses is referred to as "breaking."  that always gets to me
every time i hear the song.  and yeah, it worries me too . . . i always
have to remind myself to detach the song from the singer, if you will, and
keep in mind that i don't think emily's singing about herself in this one.
that's kind of a thing with her on cons, isn't it?  what with "andy" and
"cold beer and remote control?"  (maybe a couple of others, i'm not sure.)

> and emily's gorgeous in the album pics!

<bg>  yes.
but of course i'd say that . . .

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--the local xena expert said:
> > i don't like the connotations of that last line in
> > andy. [oh wait that was me]
>
> in what sense?  to take a tangent, it's always
> disturbed me that the
> training of horses is referred to as "breaking."
> that always gets to me
> every time i hear the song.

we just read browning's the last duchess in my poetry
class, and the last few lines there's a reference to
the evil aristocrat's plans to "break" his new bride.
now i'm no horse person, but somebody in the class
said you break a horse by riding it till you break
it's spirit.  sounds like rape to me.

> . . . i always
> have to remind myself to detach the song from the
> singer, if you will, and
> keep in mind that i don't think emily's singing
> about herself in this one.

i don't want to think about any woman singing this
line.  i guess the whole, boy focuses on work, girl
focuses on boy theme annoys me.  hello, my women's
studies class is leaking into my ig song
interpretations.

speaking of cold beer, that song is too depressing for
me to listen to (so ok, that's why i haven't heard
sheryl crow).  to me, cold beer is play it again, sam
once all hope has been lost.

lori ann


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-they come from the red light cafe boot (2.25.96) when ig played with cooper
seay and m. malone.

hhhhmmmmmmmmmm.....anyone feel like sending this my way? pretty please?
=0)  -k

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on thu, 7 oct 1999, lori ann wrote:

> we just read browning's the last duchess in my poetry
> class, and the last few lines there's a reference to
> the evil aristocrat's plans to "break" his new bride.
> now i'm no horse person, but somebody in the class
> said you break a horse by riding it till you break
> it's spirit.  sounds like rape to me.

ah, there it is . . . that's what was going around inside my mind in some
nebulous form.  i couldn't get a handle on the terminology i was looking
for.  come to think of it, i probably didn't want to, subconsciously.
looking at the words on the screen . . . no.  i don't like thinking about
it.

> i don't want to think about any woman singing this
> line.  i guess the whole, boy focuses on work, girl
> focuses on boy theme annoys me.  hello, my women's
> studies class is leaking into my ig song
> interpretations.

you're right, that gets to me as well.  i've never really had patience
with that sort of mentality.

> speaking of cold beer, that song is too depressing for
> me to listen to (so ok, that's why i haven't heard
> sheryl crow).  to me, cold beer is play it again, sam
> once all hope has been lost.

"cold beer" really reminds me, thematically, of "make it easier" a few
years later, further downhill, and more pessimistic.

with regard to both "andy" and "cold beer," though . . . yeah, the themes
they deal with aren't exactly happy ones, but isn't that kind of in
keeping with the theme of the album?  music is capable of far more than
just entertainment; it can be a tool, an instrument to make people stop
and take a second look and re-evaluate.  amy and emily know this.

so i've been thinking about that--thinking about some of the more
unsettling and disturbing implications of the album, and wondering why amy
and emily chose to bring them to our attention.  if "come on now social"
holds the implication of reminding us to be aware of our society and its
problems, and that we can and should do something about them, then there's
a reason to listen, even if it's disturbing.  that's something that
occurred to me the other day, and ever since, whenever i listen to the
album, i find my mind wandering past just the music, and thinking about
the roots of the problems these songs express.  it's not just "faye
tucker" and "trouble" that contain social messages--all the songs do, to
one degree or another.  it's just a matter of looking in the right place.
i realized that as well: there are more problems affecting our society
than the big political issues.  deeply-ingrained mentalities (like in
"andy") can also be problematic, even if they're subtle; "ozilline"
reminds me of the fact that this society has an alarming lack of respect
for its elders; the list goes on.  there's a lot to think about in this
album.

gods, i love the girls.

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jon wrote:

my mr. limes: in faye tucker i heard:
"if you live they gonna make you a computer
if you die they gonna make you a cray"
(cray is was s upercomputer).
actual lines of course
computer = campaigner, cray=grave

and i laughed heartily. i work for sgi, which kinda sorta owns cray
research now, and the thought of associating cray with the grave...
*giggle* not quite correct, but sorta appropos. anyone following the
tech news for the last month or so will understand.

*giggle*

thanks for making my day!

amy

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ok. so i was at ani last night. where were you?  =0) i was in 2nd row....
well, to all of you who were there....... and for those who weren't, i'd like
to say it was awesome and bitch and animal were hilarious!!! i have never seen
anything/one like that!
damn, ani knows how to play a f*ing guitar!!!!!!!!! my ears are still ringing.

ok. one more try to get a list meet for tomorrow night's show at the patriot
center:  whoever is  interested, email me please! maybe we could just
congregate at a shirt stand to say hi for 2 seconds, and then be on our
way..... just thought it'd be fun......
later gators,
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>does anyone have the chords to gone again? or anything else on cons
>actually, except go, since joan already posted those? :0)
>
>amy m.


the chords for gone again are:
g    bm    c    g    d

for the mandolin after the c i believe she goes to g.  for the guitar after
the c i believe she goes to am.  everything else i am sure about.

have fun,
heather

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hey all,
laramie wy tickets went on sale yesterday (i didn't
know!) for any of you other crazy road trippers here's
the skinny:

reserved seating. 1913 seats. half sold out. tickets are
$25 with $2 fee for using the plastic.

call the nice people at their ticket office at:
   307-766-3327

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>from:    la8rga8r@aol.com
>subject: billboard charts
>
>well i just looked at the billboard online website (www.billboard.com) didn't
>see cons on the top 100 albums

i find it hard to believe that it won't be there, since sots debuted at #7.

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hi folks!

i'm usually a lurker, but my girlfriend found this, and i thought i'd
pass it on to y'all.

amy


"it's officially a decade: the indigo girls mark 10 years of creating
the soundtracks for our lives"

by robin stevens
for the gay.com network

if it weren't for the lilith fair, you'd be listening to a very
different indigo girls on their new album this week.
"the lilith fair was a blast...we met our whole new band on the lilith
fair last year. and all these great women who we met on that tour came
and played on our most recent record. it was a really great experience
for spiritual and musical inspiration," amy ray told a group of
journalists gathered in atlanta on september 20 for the national
lesbian and gay journalists association annual convention.

by all lilith fair accounts, it was ray and emily saliers who brought
musicians together for late-night jams at most of the concerts they
played during the lilith fair's three-year run. their collaborative
bent paid off during production of their new album, come on now social,
when
musicians including me'shell ndegeocello, kate schellenbach (from
luscious jackson), joan osborne and sheryl crow made the trek to the
recording studio to jam with the girls (as fans like to call them).
the jams all add up to an album that remains true to the girls'
trademark style, with a greater musical range than they've achieved on
any previous album.  a couple of tracks, including "go" and "trouble,"
are the most successful to date at conveying the rock-the-house energy
that draws fans again and again to their live performances.

in their discussion with journalists in attendance at the atlanta
convention, saliers and ray said they were both happy to be openly
lesbian-now. "early, early on in our careers, back when we were playing
in little five points bar in atlanta, amy was perfectly ready to come
out and talk about it in the press and was open in her life, and i was
open in my life but not wanting to talk about being lesbian in the
press," saliers told the group. "i had a couple of reservations. first,
i was just scared. secondly, i didn't want to be known purely as a
lesbian band before a band...i'm long since over that."  "it's a really
good thing to be out," she added. "the most important thing is that we
have so much response from people who are grateful we came out...it's
important as far as the evolution of the movement that people are
honest
about their sexuality. it's the only way we're going to get people to
get rid of some of their ignorance about who gay people are."

but they don't think it's without its price. "i feel like our audience
has grown and i don't feel like it's hurt us in our audience," said
ray. "i feel like it's hurt us in the media-in rolling stone and spin,
in radio promotion and in the mainstream sexist rock-and-roll that ties
sexism and homophobia into one neat package for us." it's not just the
music industry. last year the girls made news when several south
carolina high school appearances they'd scheduled were cancelled by
school administrators at the behest of concerned parents. "they didn't
want their kids having role models who were lesbians," said ray.
in true indigo girls style, though, the pair demonstrated the power of
grassroots politics. they scheduled alternative shows at all-ages clubs
and and inspired the students-many of whom staged school walkouts-to
organize. "in the end it was a very positive politicizing experience
for
everybody," said ray.

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in a message dated 10/07/1999 10:04:18 am eastern daylight time,
mnoelm@aol.com writes:

>  where is "wild, wild party in
>  the loquat tree" when you need it!!!!

that's my point exactly.  this song was discussed a few months ago and i was
wondering, where is it, who has it and how may i obtain a copy?
please y'all and thanks in advance!!!!
mary

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i  like sots much better than cons because
i can still hear a lot of the old amy & emily i fell in love with enough
to bring them into my humble home everyday for seven years.  yeah,
maybe they don't do their grammar right,  but so
what. we have so any rules in our language,
so many contradictions, and let's face it, most
people have different views on what's correct,
and no one talks perfectly.

music is an art, an expresion, shouldn't it reflect
the way our lives are?  i can see why many an
artist would want to
bend  the rules abit.  they're  so

restricting.

besides, i love trying to figure meanings out for
myself, and compare ideas with others.  isn't that what art is all
about----expressing yourself,
and then letting others interpret the meaning for
themselves, and applying it to their own lives?

my two cents worth.

peace everyone!

barb

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according to the ticketbastard web site, seattle tickets are on sale
online now! i don't know whether or not they're on sale by phone. here's
the number just in case:

206-628-0888.

okay, i'll say it: go go go!

-bon

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