lifeblood: listlogs: 1999-10b


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date:         fri, 8 oct 1999 09:22:28 +0900
reply-to:     "karen, the biggest indigo girls bitch of japan"
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subject:      last reminder -- vote now!!!
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hey!

i am about to walk out the door to go to the airport to go to kyushu.  and as soon as i get back on monday night (sunday, for all you in the us), i am going to tally up the cons fave song votes.

so that means...this is my last reminder to vote (if you haven't done so already).  it's easy.

just send a message to karen_chun@keromail.com (don't reply to this address) with the song you are voting for in the subject line (i really don't have time to open and 'read' 100+ messages on monday night).

ok, hope everyone has a great weekend, and for those of you in japan (i think there is one other...) happy health, fitness, and sports day (ahhhh...the holidays we get off of school for...)

:-) karen

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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 17:29:51 -0700
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well, let's try this...for the last album they had a whole "demo tour" for
almost a year with the new material (new orleans jazz fest in may 96;
shaming of the sun comes out at the end of april, 97).

this year they played about 10 lilith dates and several smaller summer
venues without too much publicity.

this may just be a slow & build type album.

actually, i think that this album is awesome (right up there with so).

melissa


> >subject: billboard charts
> >
> >well i just looked at the billboard online website (www.billboard.com)
didn't
> >see cons on the top 100 albums
>
> i find it hard to believe that it won't be there, since sots debuted at
#7.
>
> --
> deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo
>
>

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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 20:49:08 -0400
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maybe i missed the announcement, but did anyone boot this show?  you'd make
three chicks in virginia and one in north carolina very happy if you did.

:)
anna
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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 21:20:06 -0400
reply-to:     neil <neily@netreach.net>
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subject:      indicated iv - shaming of the songs/come on now singitdamnit
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  yes, i have returned to do battle with the procrastinators... don't =
give up... keep 'em coming... etc etc...

  :o)

  well folks, it's _still_ not too late to add your contribution to our =
very own list indigo girls tribute album, also known as "indicated iv - =
shaming of the songs".

  yup, there's still time to record your rendition or an indigo girls' =
song or two (or three). you know you want to - the more the merrier.=20

  even if you can't sing or play (like me) you can:
  a) find a friend who does and do a duet
  b) sing acapella
  c) do a dramatic, poetic recitation
  d) fake it (like me)
  e) offer to design the cover art
  f) be otherwise creative

  songs that i actually have in my hands so far:
  watershed, strange fire, you and me of the 10,000 wars - erika
  least complicated, reunion - carrie
  hand me downs - andi
  three hits - me=20
  half moon cafe - me
  closer to fine - ?

  songs that are promised or at least are possibilities:

  the deadline is 1 noveber!!! get recording and a-mailing folks, it =
won't be the same without you...

  if someone's already taken your song don't worry, do it anyway 'cause:
  a) theirs may never make it to me (although i sincerely hope it does)
  b) i make the rules and i say two versions of the same song can go on =
:o)

  email me for details :o)

  yer bestest friend

  neil
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abi's page!!! http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/abi/abi.html
this week, neil 'as been mostly been listening to:
ferron - 'the ima sessions', a little fairgound atraction; george =
gershwin 'piano rolls'; james brown 'star time (box)'
song o' the week: 'god bless the child' - billie holiday

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  <div> </div>
  <div>even if you can't sing or play (like me) you can:</div>
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  <div>b) sing acapella</div>
  <div>c) do a dramatic, poetic recitation</div>
  <div>d) fake it (like me)</div>
  <div>e) offer to design the cover art</div>
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  <div>least complicated, reunion - carrie</div>
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  <div>closer to fine - ?</div>
  <div> </div>
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  <div> </div>
  <div>the deadline is 1 noveber!!! get recording and a-mailing =
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  <div> </div>
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  <div>email me for details :o)</div>
  <div> </div>
  <div>yer bestest friend</div>
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  <div>neil</div>
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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 22:01:30 edt
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i can't believe there is a second berkeley show...good thing i'm finally
reading all my damn e-mail...i thought there was a warfield show in sf too? i
can't find any ticket info on it though...does anyone know? i'm in row r for
the first berkeley show (i bought tickets on-line at exactly 10:00 am on
sunday) and row u on the second night ( i just got them two minutes ago and i
don't know when they went on sale - i didn't find it listed on bass's on
sales) so go figure...these corporate ticket agencies suck with all of their
fees and shitty seats...i live in sacramento so someone else will have to
fill me in on a place to meet and hang in berkeley...oh and thanks to (was it
deb?) who said that bit about jerry marrotta producing barbara
kessler....btw, jennifer kimball does harmony on a lot of bk's songs - she
was half of the story..i love folky girls :)
lisa

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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 22:02:54 edt
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y'all --
  it's *very* hard to believe cons isn't in the top 100.  at the same time...
publicity totally sucked, multiple people on the list had experiences of
going to stores on tuesday that did not yet have the album, and i know the
two stores i asked at didn't have any promotional materials.
  yo, on the other hand, everyone i freakin' know (except for heidi, who is
sitting here with me... she's so crazy, she's going to a cartoon movie
instead of coming to an ig show with me... okay, "animated" and it's her
favorite movie and it's the only time it's ever been released in the us with
english subtitles, and may not be released again for 10 years and aw hell,
heidi, can i keep talking?) has already bought the album.  lesbians across
the nation already own it.  and i was in boston and there was this chick in
the car ahead of me blasting sister and i was like "woo hoo!"
  anyhow...
  my 5 cents.
~ elizabeth

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date:         fri, 8 oct 1999 14:09:50 +1200
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blah blah blah blah

cons is new at 34 on the billboard charts... where are you guys looking? u blind?

cons 18th on top internet albums sales


on thu, 7 oct 1999 22:02:54    e. moranian bolles wrote:
>y'all --
>  it's *very* hard to believe cons isn't in the top 100.  at the same time...
>publicity totally sucked, multiple people on the list had experiences of
>going to stores on tuesday that did not yet have the album, and i know the
>two stores i asked at didn't have any promotional materials.
>  yo, on the other hand, everyone i freakin' know (except for heidi, who is
>sitting here with me... she's so crazy, she's going to a cartoon movie
>instead of coming to an ig show with me... okay, "animated" and it's her
>favorite movie and it's the only time it's ever been released in the us with
>english subtitles, and may not be released again for 10 years and aw hell,
>heidi, can i keep talking?) has already bought the album.  lesbians across
>the nation already own it.  and i was in boston and there was this chick in
>the car ahead of me blasting sister and i was like "woo hoo!"
>  anyhow...
>  my 5 cents.
>~ elizabeth
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y'all --
  yo, so i checked out the billboard... they're up there at number 34.
that's something.  it ain't #7, but uh... dood, we might want to wait for
next week.  after word spreads and stores get it in, and commercials air...
well, you know.
~ elizabeth

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date:         thu, 7 oct 1999 23:03:01 edt
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ok when i checked the charts earlier today the issue date was oct. 9th and
they weren't on the charts(i wondered if that was why b/c it had only been
out a week), but now the issue date is oct. 16 and they are 34th.  so 34
after two weeks isn't that bad i guess.  i'm sure after the appearences on
rosie and the view, ect. they'll get to at least #7.

also...i was in best buy today and saw that epic has packaged the
self-titled, strange fire, and nis as a 3-pack for something like $20.
anybody else seen this??   they also had the collectors edition of the
self-titled album....24k gold cd and all.

anywhoo,
:p
tina

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date:         fri, 8 oct 1999 02:28:36 edt
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let me just say that the show tonite in syracuse was incredible!!!  it was
the third ig show i've been lucky enough to see, and by far the best.  the
fact that there were no rude audience members crashing the stage, a la
stanhope, definately helped.

my two friends and i got there just in time to see rose... i liked her a lot
at stanhope, but i felt she was even better tonite.  olga's b-day was
great:+)  halfway through rose's set, i turn around and saw one of my friends
and the res life director of our college sitting down directly behind us-
turns out rose called the office at hamilton today and sent a few free tix
our way.  she played at hamilton last year for an acoustic coffeehouse, and
rumor has it she wants to come back.  come back rose, come back!!!  our res
life director whips out a backstage pass and my jaw immediately dropped to
the ground.  "if i had known there were more people coming i probably could
have gotten a few more passes," she tells me.  eeek!  that's just the type of
thing i hate hearing.  so close!
somewhere in between all that, another group of people from hamilton (which
is about an hour from syracuse) sit down two rows back from us.  so now we
have this group of people who know each other, all randomly sitting in a neat
little block.  i'm sad to say that we were verging on being those annoying
people who talk way too much ::::ducking to avoid being smacked::::

so, the music....
i didn't write down a set list (anyone?) but here are a few highlights...

chickenman- carrie put it best: "these are the only two people on earth who
can use the term chickenman and not get laughed at." i'd have to agree with
her.  i was thrilled to hear this song.... hello energy!!! hello passion!!!
hello lotsa people finally on their feet dancing!!! yup, it was great.

sister- powerful powerful song... didn't like it as much on the cd, but now
that i've heard it live i'm addicted.

kid fears- we did michael stipe's part well... a&e even complimented us on
our singing numerous times throughout the show.

go- not as energetic as i've seen it... perhaps because it was the first song
and the audience just wasn't as hyped up yet.  there wasn't as much high
raising of hands as usual.

power of two- first time i've ever heard it live... i love it!  it just has
this chilling out type tone to it... laid back and uplifting.

amy and emily seemed pretty happy and relaxed... they did a lot of
talking/storytelling.  we heard all about the ny times crossword puzzles, got
emily's imitation of fat bastard from austin powers, heard about hotel fire
drills and nasty old cutips in hotel rooms, and probably a lot more that my
tired little brain can't remember.
no ghost:+(  that was my disappointment of the nite.

our res life director got backstage, and tried to get a few more passes.
didn't work.  she said it was her, someone's sister (?) and three radio
people back there.  apparentely they're pretty selective as to who gets
passes.  she came outside with a big smile and said "amy and emily say hi."
that's gotta count for something, right? :+)
one more week till amherst...

i'm gonna take a breath now....
g'nite,
~kristen

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date:         fri, 8 oct 1999 01:34:14 -0700
reply-to:     shannon curnutte <shannonc@oregon.uoregon.edu>
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wow! i open up the emerald (my school paper) today, and what do i see
but a great review of cons! =)

here it is:

(http://www.dailyemerald.com/archive/v101/1/991007/indigo.html)

indigo girls' message sings loud and clear

* folk duo's new release inspires social change with
beautifully written lyrics

by yael menahem
oregon daily emerald

the indigo girls, who are known for encouraging and taking part in
social change, stay true to form with their latest release aptly named
"come on now social."

the songs are true to the indigo girls' sound, while adding more
banjo, bass and their signature backup vocals. although nothing will
compete with some of the band's most well-known hits such as
"closer to fine" and "galileo," the cd does offer many catchy and
classic rock 'n' roll tracks.

on "social," the group is joined by fellow lilith fair performers joan
osborne and sheryl crow on backup vocals, and me'shell
n'degeocello, on bass.

the cd features 12 new tracks with personal lyrics that call on a new
generation to make a difference.

the first song, "go," tells the listeners that their voices are
important and can cause change with lyrics such as, " did they tell you,
you would come undone when you try to touch the sun. you're too old
to care. you're too young to count."

another track called "trouble" deals with the hope for change in
attitudes toward gays and lesbians. it begins with distorted electric
guitars then breaks into heavy drums and percussion. a mandolin
accompanies amy ray and emily saliers as they sing, "one day the
way will stop and we'll grow a peaceful crop. and a girl can get a
wife and we can bring you back to life." this gives those unfamiliar
with the band's sound and political goals a taste of what it's all
about.

the sixth track, "peace tonight," sounds like a van morrison song.
it's upbeat and accompanied by a saxophone and a trombone, while
"cold beer and remote control" is a classic rock song with electric
guitars that has the indigo girls' touch added with vocals by sheryl
crow.

"compromise" is heavy on bass and electric guitars. it sounds like
the electric version of the acoustic, "scooter boys," which appeared
on the band's previous release, "shaming of the sun."

"come on now social" keeps with the tradition of the indigo girls'
folk and rock sound. the "plugged" songs inspire people to take
action and bring about social change, while the ballads feature
acoustic guitars and beautifully written lyrics about relationships and
different stages of life.

the back of the song booklet contains addresses for organizations
such as, ms. magazine and handgun control inc. which are
organizations the band supports and encourages listeners to get
involved with.

it's a great cd to buy and play anytime. it's available at music stores
now.


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i have 5th row tickets for tonight at the patriot center in va available.
they are section 1 floor seats seats 11&12 row e.    i am asking what i paid
for these tickets which was $100.   the person(on the news list) i got them
from paid tixmaster online/overnight fees.   i will be at the show tonight so
we can meet up outside before the show.   i am going to get there early to
try and sell these tickets.   i ended up getting closer seats so now i need
to let these go!!!

i will be checking my mail when i get home from work to day. which should be
around 1-1:30pm!!!   so get back to me if interested!!!
thanks
sandy

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date:         fri, 8 oct 1999 12:25:30 gmt
reply-to:     jennifer meklenburg <jenmek@hotmail.com>
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the more i listen to cons, the more i'm getting to enjoy it.  i know i said
that i didn't like it, but when i put the cd in a real stereo system (and
not my pc), the music just caught me.

especially "sister".  i am an "emily person", but i am totally in love with
this song.

does anyone else think that this song sounds a little like something from
the groups yes or renaissance (anyone know who they are??)??

let me know!

peace and pride,
- jen mek

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hey all,

i've been wondering if emily has read any cormac mccarthy, cos i've been
listening to 'andy' and it reminds me strongly of his writing, specifically
'all the pretty horses'.
it's not just the lyrics but also the general tone of the song, which
inspires a similar emotional response. they both touch on the unfathomable
connection between people and the land/nature and they're both able to
portray a landscape as both brutal and beautiful. very evocative stuff...
i guess all the horse imagery helps too (which also reminds me a little of
rose p.)!

just my 2 cents...um, 2 pence...whatever ;-)

jen mcq

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hello again,

there's been some interesting posts on the list lately comparing emily's
earlier songs with her cons songs, eg soon beto nothing described as a
sequel to language or the kiss, and cold beer as a sequel to both make it
easier and play it again sam. and i'm sure i've missed some others.

here's a couple more for you...
i think it's especially interesting to compare it's alright with trouble
(aka 'it's not alright, dammit'), as emily seems to be in a completely
different place regarding these issues now than when she wrote the songs for
the last album.

but i don't agree that all these 'sequel' songs show emily to be more
resigned, more cynical etc. we are together is one of those wonderful
hopeful emily songs. i like to think of it as a 'happy ending' sequel to
love will come to you - y'know, it's about someone finding love when they
least expected it, when they'd pretty much given up hope of it happening.

i also don't think cold beer is necessarily a depressing song. i do think
it's a brilliant piece of social commentary disguised as a singalong. the
guitar riffs & chords sound quite optimistic and uplifting to me (if there
is such a thing as optimistic guitar? johnny marr anyone?!). i think emily
is consciously trying to achieve a juxtaposition between the lyrics and the
melody on some of her cons songs (most obviously on philosophy of loss).
it's quite a challenging and brave thing for a songwriter to do.

okay, shutting up now (2 posts in one day - that's what a new album will do
to a lurker!).

jen mcq...
...who can't get enough of amy on mandolin :-)

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ok boys and girls..... here's the deal for anyone interested in a list meet
for tonight before the show:  meet at will call at 7:30 if you get there
early enough, and then after the show if you feel like it. i'm about 5'8 with
light brown hair. most likely wearing a maroon rage against the mach. t
shirt.........
hope y'all have fun tonight!
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10/24/99 mobile, al  mitchell center
on sale: 10/8 - 9:00am (334)460-6047 (local #)

11/19/99 denver, co  fillmore auditorium
on sale: 10/9 - 10:00am (303)830-8497 (local tm)

hkf's,
just a reminder about those...  and also, if you have any additional on sale
information for any dates, please let us know right away!  thanks!!!

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okay, a co-worker and i are having a "discussion" about a song that has a
phrase in it that says "31 flavors and then some..."

i say it's an ani song.  she says it isn't.

okay all you fans...is it?  who sings that song and what is the name of the
song.

thanks!!

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subject:      re: nigc:  31 flavors and then some...?
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> okay, a co-worker and i are having a "discussion" about a song that has a
> phrase in it that says "31 flavors and then some..."
>
> i say it's an ani song.  she says it isn't.

   you're both right!  it's originally an ani song, but some other person
named alana davis did a very bad cover of it that became very popular.

   darius

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i'll send what i sent to jen.

the song is actually 32 flavors (i can't believe i have been the birthday
goddess for this long and you haven't noticed *heh*) and it is a song by
ani difranco.  alana davis did a cover of it - and it sucks a**...don't
even bother :)

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> "compromise" is heavy on bass and electric guitars.
> it sounds like
> the electric version of the acoustic, "scooter
> boys,"

scooter boys acoustic???   lol

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does anyone have any clue why someone else's name is
showing up in the from line of my yahoo e-mail today?
has this happened to anyone else???

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> > "compromise" is heavy on bass and electric
> guitars.
> > it sounds like
> > the electric version of the acoustic, "scooter
> > boys,"
>
> scooter boys acoustic???   lol


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hi

a friend of mine has two tixs for sale for tonights show in fairfax.

they are section 116   row t   seats 7 and 8  $35 each

if you want these you can call her at    (410) 916-5856 after 1130am up until
the show starts.  she is going to the show but got better seats.

indi      <------- who will be in row c!!!!!     :d

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first, is there a list meet for tonight's patriot center ig gig?  i
think i've only heard of two of from the list going!  email me if there
is - it'd be cool...

and, well, i just wanted to add that cons is actually growing on me
(who'd known) since i picked it up.  i sorta had to force-feed myself
the cd, but, the more i did, the more i realized i wasn't force-feeding
it anymore!  :)  i guess i was too harsh on the girls at first glance.
but, it is different, but i am looking forward to seeing them tonight!
:)

from all the setlists posted, it's sure to be awesome...
renee

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on fri, 8 oct 1999, hicktruckdriver wrote:

> > i say it's an ani song.  she says it isn't.
>
>    you're both right!  it's originally an ani song, but some other person
> named alana davis did a very bad cover of it that became very popular.

gee.  and here i was, trying to forget that ratty cover version had ever
existed.  my best friend buried the knife deep and twisted it when she
loved the cover version, wanted a copy of the song, and whined--i mean
really, really whined--when i gave her the *real* version.  ;)

        battle on,
        shanie
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>now i'm no horse person, but somebody in the class
>said you break a horse by riding it till you break
>it's spirit.  sounds like rape to me.

ahem...coming out as a horse person...there are many different methods of
training a young horse - which is still termed "breaking" in many (but not
all) places. breaking its spirit by over-riding, starving, leaving a horse
tied, or dropping a horse to the ground like that horrible scene in that
horrible movie based on that horrible book (the horse whisperer) are *not*
condoned by any respectable horse person. there are some incredible horse
trainers on the book-and-clinic circuit right now, who package their wares
in different ways, but all promote some form of "natural horsemanship" which
involves using a horse's basic instincts to support its training, and their
own understanding of how a horse would naturally respond to certain stimuli.
those that don't run out and buy everything by pat parelli, ga-wa-ni ponyboy
et al (myself included) still understand that there are far more humane and
effective methods of training then the spiritual rape of such a wonderful
creature.

sarah

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have i mentioned today how much i absolutely loathe/detest/hate alana davis

anybody who takes a great song such as 32 flavors, does a sucky cover of it
and then doesn't even give the person who wrote it credit (sorry saying a.d.
wrote it does not count when your name is alana davis and the person who
wrote is named ani difranco :(   )  is lamer...

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--- sarah pinsker <spinsker@goucher.edu> wrote:
> >now i'm no horse person, but somebody in the class
> >said you break a horse by riding it till you break
> >it's spirit.  sounds like rape to me.
>
> ahem...coming out as a horse person...there are many
> different methods of
> training a young horse - which is still termed
> "breaking" in many (but not
> all) places. breaking its spirit by over-riding,
> starving,

sorry to share this horrible story with you but last
night i saw part of this story on a show last night -
20/20 or dateline or one of those (i'm not sure) about
horse jockeys and how they starve themselves and
resort to long jogs in the heat with layers of
clothing on and layers of plastic clothing, too, to
sweat out pounds of water from their bodies.  all
this, plus diet pills and water pills and whatever
else they think will do the trick cause of course, the
less they weigh the less weight the horse has to slow
it down.  it was so hard to watch this (and they spend
hours in steam rooms with all the clothing and plastic
on - jogging around in the little room - to sweat more
water weight out).  my point?  it seems as though the
horses are being broken, and the jockeys, too.

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        > the less they weigh the less weight the horse has to slow
> it down.  <
>
        i always thought that they added weight to the horses, to equal the
heaviest jockey, so that the horses all had equal weight to carry (like in
the 'black stallion' movie).  is this not the case anymore?  fill me in,
because my entire base of knowledge is completely derived from modern film.

        which by the way... i saw 'better than chocolate' last night - good
movie, especially for my rainbow brothers and sistahs out there.  very
funny, but cliched.  i'm just glad to see a movie where the main characters
don't die.

        -tara

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11/13/99 pullman, wa  beasley coliseum
on sale: 10/8 - 10:00am (800)325-seat (local #)  (ie., now!)

order tix's online here:
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go go go!!!

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> i'm just glad to see a movie where the main characters
> don't die.
>
>         -tara

is this the truth or what? like our youth don't have
enough problem digging up role models without every
single les/bi/gay/tr/queer going belly up for finding
some sliver of joy in a cold world. i loved "high art",
but would have preferred some other finale.

queer kids represent a disproportionate number of street
children and a wildly disproportionate number of suicides
and suicide attempts are made by les/bi/gay and
questioning youth.

there was lots i didn't love about "the incredibly true
adventures of two girls in love", but i did love it that
they ended up in each other's arms with a little happily
ever after happening. oh. and "go fish". go see it. it's
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a happy, innovative, sweet little independent film. i
loved it.

thumbs up? thumbs down? yikes. i'm channeling the ghost
of the skinny guy...

kc

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hi!  just got back from waiting in the rain at the mitchell center to get
tickets for the 10/24 concert...any other listees going to the mobile concert?
angie

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on fri, 8 oct 1999, sarah pinsker wrote:

> ahem...coming out as a horse person...there are many different methods of
> training a young horse - which is still termed "breaking" in many (but not
> all) places. breaking its spirit by over-riding, starving, leaving a horse
> tied, or dropping a horse to the ground like that horrible scene in that
> horrible movie based on that horrible book (the horse whisperer) are *not*
> condoned by any respectable horse person.

   actually, i'd bet those methods are still in use more than the monty
roberts (that's the guy who did training for the royal family, no?) stuff
- a lot of horse folks are pretty resistant to change, and to them, it
does kinda sound like voodoo.
   also - i just want to clarify some stuff...
   ropes are often used in training horses without the intention of
"breaking its spirit." the rationale is to immobilize the horse to avoid
injury to both horse and trainer, and then to approach, getting it used to
several things - a human presence, the weight of a saddle, etc.
   that said, leaving a horse tied after training is done is tantamount to
sin.  overriding, starving, etc -- those are all cruel and unusual, and i
condone euthanasia for the owners, death penalty activists be
damned---sorry, amy...  :)

> those that don't run out and buy everything by pat parelli, ga-wa-ni ponyboy
> et al (myself included) still understand that there are far more humane and
> effective methods of training then the spiritual rape of such a wonderful
> creature.

   amen.  besides, who wants to ride a lousy tame horse anyway?  if it
ain't a challenge, it's not worth it...

   darius

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hello to all in the land of indigo!

i am still beaming off the last nights awesome syracuse show and was hoping
there was someone there who booted the show.  if so i would love a copy.

comparing this show to the lowell one, i would have to say the syracuse crowd
was much more into it and more energetic on the whole, even amy and emily
commented on how lively the crowd was.  they seemed to be really happy and
they
were definatley interacting with the audience more than at lowell, telling
stories and
having a blast!

after the "galileo" incident at lowell, i too felt guilty and hoped that the
lack of
respect some audience members had there would not appear there too and it
didn't, even thought beer, wine and mixed drinks were available.  maybe
central
new yorkers can hold their liquor better, who knows?

anyway, my dreams came true when they played compromise (too incredible) and
cold beer and remote control, and ozilline, my 3 favorite songs from cons.
can't wait for the umass show, it being in my neck of the woods.

anyone with boots,please let me know.  thanks.

-debigogrl

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date:         fri, 8 oct 1999 13:16:36 -0500
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i got the tv guide yesterday for next week, and
didn't find ig listed anywhere for rosie.  has anyone else found
listings for them?  the monday show lists julie andrews and her new
book.

peace,

barb

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hellloooooooo...

it's joanne from denver, formerly of nashville, popping my head back up..
any denver/boulder folks going to this show? i'm going to be getting my
ticket tomorrow. and if you hadn't heard, becuase i hadn't, shawn mullins
will be opening : )

can't wait!!!


joanne

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guess i'm taking my chance, trading in my things for a couple wings on a
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i seem to have misplaced the words to problem child. c ould somebody
please email them to me? someone asked me for them.  i would appreciate
the favor.  thanks!

peace, :-)

barb

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date:         fri, 8 oct 1999 11:38:18 mst
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hey all!  well, i'm back on the list.  i took a break for summer fire
season.  what's up with everyone?  i'm soooooooooooooo not up to date with
what amy and emily are doing lately...and, i'm sure as fire not up to date
with what you guys are doing lately.  fill me in.....


chee hill
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apparently the critic who did this review has never listened to the ig
sots  recording!  :-)
lol.....scooter boys is accoustic....now that's
hilarious.  they must be talking about some other ig song.

peace,

barb

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in a message dated 10/8/99 12:35:10 pm, jenmcqueen@clara.co.uk writes:

<< i've been wondering if emily has read any cormac mccarthy, cos i've been
listening to 'andy' and it reminds me strongly of his writing, specifically
'all the pretty horses'. >>

very perceptive.  i can't remember what interview it was, but it was 2 or 3
years ago when emily mentioned that she was reading this very book.  and i
actually went out to find it since i figured it would bring me closer to her,
lol.

i know it's unfair, but i just skimmed it and read the first few pages-- it
didn't grab me right away.  so i just sort of left it alone.

as for "andy".  it didn't do much for me at first.  thought it was pretty
enough, but inconsequential.  i must say now, however, that i love the lyrics
(and the song now), "broken girls/horses" notwithstanding :-)  the imagery of
the swayed back porch and spider webbed glass are wonderful.  and i love the
progressions she makes: turning brushwood into blazes/ turning summer grass
into hay, as well as the following line: toss me a little scrap of something
i can taste/ instead of dust from all the leaving/ and the smell of summer
lying here to waste.

the consensus seems to be that this is amy's album..  and for whatever
reason, i anticipated a weak showing by emily before it came out.  but, for
me at least, emily's songs are "stronger"-- or, perhaps, the ones i listen to
most often is more appropriate to say.  "soon be to nothing" is the one i
play over and over again.  the part at the end where they alternate "i'll
soon be to nothing" and harmonize is my favorite.  the one that seems closest
to quintessential indigo on this album.

otts

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i'd rather see a good movie with lesbians in it where the lead character dies
(ie high art) than a movie like better than chocolate (the only redeeming
quality was the girls kissing)...the plot was stupid...and they played up on
every issue under the sun...

transgender, hate crimes, censorship...ahhh...i could go and on about
it...without trying to touch on every topic that affects the gay community,
it could have been much better...but i'm a hypocrite...i'll buy the stupid
thing on dvd when it comes out and just fast forward to the girls kissing
(etc) part :)

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if you want to see a good lesbian movie, try to find "inn trouble".  it's
funny, has a good plot and even a happy ending.  besides, there's nothing
more sexy than watching cooper make out with someone in her kitchen.
yowza!! :-)
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>from:    la8rga8r@aol.com
>also...i was in best buy today and saw that epic has packaged the
>self-titled, strange fire, and nis as a 3-pack for something like $20.
>anybody else seen this??   they also had the collectors edition of the
>self-titled album....24k gold cd and all.

both have been out for quite a while.

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>from:    joan morrison <morrison_joan@yahoo.com>
>none of their t-shirts ever make
>any sense.  for once, it would be nice to have an ig
>t-shirt that makes sense!  people are like "what is
>that supposed to mean?" and i have no explanation!

my favorite is still the simple, long-sleeved henley from the rop (so?)
tour, which just has "indigo girls" embroidered over the left breast in the
old ig font!  my next favorite is deb reiser's list tee!

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i have this shirt... no, i don't... i have the so tour shirt.. maroon (now
faded, with holes) with indigo girls across the chest??? it's my
favoritest..

i take this to mean we never did figure out the fishy, eh?

joanne


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>from:    joan morrison <morrison_joan@yahoo.com>
>none of their t-shirts ever make
>any sense.  for once, it would be nice to have an ig
>t-shirt that makes sense!  people are like "what is
>that supposed to mean?" and i have no explanation!

my favorite is still the simple, long-sleeved henley from the rop (so?)
tour, which just has "indigo girls" embroidered over the left breast in the
old ig font!  my next favorite is deb reiser's list tee!

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as indigobabs had asked, let's all send positive vibes for her father who is
having surgery today.
lynn

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thanks to everyone who answered me. i got tix but have
no idea where the seat is. she was very unhelpful and
said she couldn't tell me where my seat is because
people waiting in line had priority?! what does that
mean? does anyone know anything about this venue?

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--- deb <indigo@mindspring.com> wrote:

> my favorite is still the simple, long-sleeved henley
> from the rop (so?)
> tour, which just has "indigo girls" embroidered over
> the left breast in the
> old ig font!

i miss the old cursive font...

>my next favorite is deb reiser's list
> tee!

that is my favorite shirt and the one i wear the most!

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>from entertainment weekly

indigo girls come on now social
(epic) these earnest neo-folkies emerge as modern-rockers on this artfully
crafted effort.  confidently electric tunes like "go" boast surging choruses,
while "gone again" works a rustic vibe with uncontrived ease.  at times their
preachy impulses assert themselves, but they mostly keep the soapboxing to a
minimum. b+ --scott schinder

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in a message dated 10/8/99 2:53:07 pm eastern daylight time, omenus@aol.com
writes:

> i know it's unfair, but i just skimmed it and read the first few pages-- it
>  didn't grab me right away.  so i just sort of left it alone.

same here. i actually started it after finding out that henry thomas (one of
my favorite actors) would be co-starring in the filmed version... it just
lost me after a bit though.

however, this brings up one of those curious q's- wondering what sort of
stuff a&e enjoy reading.
:) i work in a bookstore, i can't help but wonder...

peace,
  rick
listening to: etta james/live in san francisco

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n a message dated 10/8/99 11:34:51 am central daylight time,
sgb29641@csun.edu writes:

<<  i say it's an ani song.  she says it isn't.
>
>    you're both right!  it's originally an ani song, but some other person
> named alana davis did a very bad cover of it that became very popular.

gee.  and here i was, trying to forget that ratty cover version had ever
existed.  my best friend buried the knife deep and twisted it when she
loved the cover version, wanted a copy of the song, and whined--i mean
really, really whined--when i gave her the *real* version.  ;) >>

okay, (donning flame-retardant dainties), i like ani, but i also like the
alana davis cover of 32 flavors.  maybe it's because i heard it first.  in
fact, i liked it so much that i bought the album and was treated to a
wonderful, bluesy surprise throughout.  oh well, i guess that's why they make
chocolate and vanilla :-)

anybody out there like sting?  his new album is yummy too.  oh wait, it's
sting himself who is yummy :-)  47 years old never looked so good.  but i
digress yet again...

counting the days til ig hits tejas...

pamelina in big d

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on fri, 8 oct 1999 mnoelm@aol.com wrote:

> okay, (donning flame-retardant dainties), i like ani, but i also like the
> alana davis cover of 32 flavors.

   *committing ritual hari-kiri*

> anybody out there like sting?  his new album is yummy too.  oh wait, it's
> sting himself who is yummy :-)  47 years old never looked so good.  but i
> digress yet again...

   sting rocks.  but does anybody else have issues with $150 for floor
seats?

   darius

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date:         fri, 8 oct 1999 16:55:48 edt
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i was just wondering if anyone knew if the national day for coming out was
oct 11th or oct 8th....

casey

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i got your envelope, and am about to send the cd...i have one already made. i
hope that is ok..i am sending the one i made, and i suppose you could make
other copies from it...if you want your blank cdrom back or anything, let me
know.
cheers
vesper

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torn between studying for tomorrow's bio sat ii or e-mailing, i came up with
something to post. . . . (hello)
  for the dartmouth show on sunday. . . if there really aren't going to be
seats, and we're all gonna be standing, does anyone have any suggestions
about what do with stuff?  meaning, i was planning on bringing a winter coat
and some homework with me, and my companions had similar visions for
themselves, but if we're all gonna be scrunched in with a basketball court
full of, eh, eager fans...?  i can't justify going if i don't produce an
outline for my iliad paper (due tuesday), but on the other hand i can't wear
a winter jacket and backpack through the whole evening.  help!  any
suggestions are totally welcome! :~)
~ elizabeth

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barbara bordner <barbinmn@webtv.net>  wrote:

<< i'm proud that such a nice place i used to live
when growing up, like spokane is being brought up at length on an ig
list!!  brings back  fond memories, and oh, by the way  0:)  whoever
said oregone is "or-i-gun" back there, i agree.
in  minnesota everybody calls it  "o-ree-gone.
and lol  i could bop a few heads over here and
laugh. >>


what i think is interesting is how people around here pronounce "lancaster".
  if we're talking about lancaster, pennsylvania we say "lan-kaster". if
were talking about lancaster, ohio we say "lang-kister".  a friend of mine
from pennsylvania said that they say them the other way around there.

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subject:      re: nigc better than chocolate

ok, i'm right there with you except i have to say i'd
rather be shot in the face twice than be forced to watch
"bar girls" again. and i gotta tell you, that's exactly
what it would take to get me to sit through it.

i practically ripped it out of some nice woman's hands at
blockbusters and told her i just couldn't let anyone do
that to themselves.

and to those of you who loved bar girls... why? why oh
why? i have virulent feelings about that movie... hated
clair of the moon, too. that one made me wanna commit
violent acts on inannimate objects. sigh. emotions are
complicated things.

kc
(whocouldwatch48hoursof"entrenous","deserthearts","whenni
ghtisfalling","gofish","frenchtwist","beautifulthing"...)
> i'd rather see a good movie with lesbians in it where the lead character dies
> (ie high art) than a movie like better than chocolate (the only redeeming
> quality was the girls kissing)...the plot was stupid...and they played up on
> every issue under the sun...
>
> transgender, hate crimes, censorship...ahhh...i could go and on about
> it...without trying to touch on every topic that affects the gay community,
> it could have been much better...but i'm a hypocrite...i'll buy the stupid
> thing on dvd when it comes out and just fast forward to the girls kissing
> (etc) part :)
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subject:      nigc - national coming out day

oh hold up.

i am so confused. i thought national coming out day was
october 11. damnit. i can already tell i'm gonna be
walking around coming out all over the place on the wrong
day.

oh well.
kc

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<<10.8.99     www.erinmckeown.com

late schedule addition, call your friends!!!! new york city!!!!!
sun. 10/10, 7:30 & 10:30pm - at the bottom line
in nyc - 15th w. 4th st. - 212.228.6300 - all ages
jess klein and erin mckeown open for the 10,000 maniacs
tickets are $20 (yes, that's steep for po' college kids, but it
will be a great show, so please try to come if you can).
pass it on to chat-lists, message boards, etc...

voices on the verge probe effect. we send two of them out to check for
signs of life.
astronaut mckeown and astronaut klein have agreed to the mission.

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4 nov mt holyoke, holyoke ma 9pm
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13-21st november is voices on the verge tour!!! check the website for details
20 nov  somerville theater, somerville ma 7pm  w/voices on the verge

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can we settle this question please?

. . .from the human rights campaign's coming out project:

"every october 11, national coming out day serves as the day to commemorate
the importance of this single act of courage."

there.  october 11th.  next monday.  have a good one!

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>
>oh hold up.
>
>i am so confused. i thought national coming out day was
>october 11. damnit. i can already tell i'm gonna be
>walking around coming out all over the place on the wrong
>day.
>
>oh well.
>kc
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i have to ask another question that dawned on me when i saw the email addressed comming out day.  what is the big thing with freedom rings?  why am i so pissed that i lost a few of my rings on my freedom rings?  is this all superfical is that it?  what is the big thing about telling the rest of the world u are this or that
tat
someday i will post ig stuff

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ok, maybe im just stupid.. what are freedom rings??

casey

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this is what i found on my email

       "celebrating coming out" friday, 08 oct. 1999
tat

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reprinted w/o permission, typos mine. originally ran on p. 16 of thursday,
october 7, 1999 lowell sun (newspaper)

____________________________
concert review:
indigo girls, tsongas arena,
lowell, last night.
____________________________

the indigo girls recharge
by david perry
sun staff
____________________________

        if you're among those who find the indigo girls' new disc, come on now
social, a welcome rejuvenation, their live show could only make you more
certain.
        the duo--amy ray and emily saliers--and their new, four-piece band treated
a tsongas arena crowd of 4,442 to a thoroughly engaging mix of rock, folk,
and appalachian twang.  i've seen the indigos a few times before, but this
show ranked head and shoulders above the rest.  change is indeed good.
        from the opening notes of their signature "closer to fine" (so much for
saving the big ones for the encores), ray and saliers wre in fine voice
throughout their 95-minute set, mixing the strong new material with
chestnuts from their past.
        and with the crowd belting out lyrics to many of the better-known older
tunes, the arena felt at times like a big ol' campfire singalong.  not to
mention a virtual testosterone-free zone.  with last-minute sign changing,
the arena staff wisely converted one of the men's restrooms into a women's
room for the night, and there was still no waiting in the lone men's room.
        lyrically, come on now social, their seventh studio album, addresses
typical indigos concerns (social issues, spirituality and love lost and
found), but ray's and saliers' music is fleshed out, graced with fresh
rhythms and crafted like never before.
        so when the superb new touring band--keyboardist/accordionist carol
isaacs, bassist clare kenny, drummer blair cunningham and cellist caroline
leavell--kicked in on ray's loud, punky call to activism, "go," it was the
first blast of the new disc.
        in all, they performed seven new tunes, including the current "peace
tonight" single, a great pop song.  the subtleties of the new record were
lost onstage only during the dark "faye tucker," about hte first woman to
be executed in texas since the civil war.
        ray's rough alto and tougher music and saliers' warm soprano and softer
folk leanings blended superbly, especially when saliers sang the new,
melancholy "soon to be nothing" [sic] or ray kicked "shed your skin" into
overdrive.
        over 20 songs, ray and saliers delved into plenty of vintage crowd
favorites, including "land of canaan," "tried to be true," "power of two,"
and the show-closing "galileo".  the two swapped instruments frequently,
from acoustic and electric guitars to mandolin (ray) and banjo (saliers),
and they swapped lead vocals, too.  but when their voices melded in a mix
of rough and sweet, their harmonies shone.
        the arena's first major folk-rooted show, it bought a whole new crowd into
the venue.
        openers the butchies didn't get much of a crowd response with their
opening set of punk.  heck, i loved 'em.  dressed in matching coveralls,
their guitar-bass-drums formation went from off-kilter pop to angular punk.
and melissa is one heckuva drummer.

________________________________________________________

also included is a cute pic of the girls jamming, amy with her big tan
guitar and em w/ the electric.  i'll scan it and put it online next week.

commentary: "the arena's first major folk-rooted show, it bought a whole
new crowd into the venue."  yeah, every two-cut, working-class dyke is a
twenty-mile radius, and a pile of boston transplants + the troublemakers
mentioned.  which was good!  of course, maybe some of the audience members
were confused and thought they were at a really expensive hockey game,
hence the rowdiness.  two beery red-faced bruisers (men) had a brawl in the
aisle amy-side. maybe that old amy vs. emily debate. :)

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the sun ran an album review on wednesday september 29, 1999 on p. 24

"come on now social," indigo girls (epic).
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____________________________
        "this time don't assume anything/ just go, go, go" amy ray exhorts on
"go," the opening track of the indigo girls' new "come on now social."
        she isn't kidding.  ray and es methodically deconstruct and refashion
their sound on their seventh studio release in a decade.  well, partly: ray
still clings to her love of appalachian music

[is appalachian music an amy trend i've been missing all this time???  does
anything with a twang mean appalachian?  does he/she mean "ozzilene" by
that statement?]

and saliers spins out a few trademark breezy numbers that rate among her best.

[snip oft-repeated guest artist rundown]  yet this is squarely an indigo
girls release, and the guest players just add seasoning.

r & s traditionally write songs independent of each other, sining lead on
the cuts they pen.  saliers' half is consistently solid.  the best news is
that ray, the more adventurous of the two, is catching up with saliers as a
songwriter and limits most of her overzealous theatrics.  with cons, the ig
show that established acts can grow by experimentation.
____________________________

i agree amy gets better and better but "overzealous theatrics"?  do they
say that about, oh, any male rock act you can mention--besides perhaps
marilyn manson?  this is in league with a comment i read in an old q
magazine from november '98--"ancient georgian folk duo.  mates with michael
stipe."  it made me physically sick & was in the context of a dismissive
two page blurb (half of it a cartoon) on lilith fair.  what a revolting
industry.  grrr...

lowell was worth going to just to get the new butchies album, which kix my
ass hardcore & is surprisingly mellow?!  they were *great* live too; can't
wait for sunday.  off to see michelle malone tonight (it's been way too
long!) and rooooossssiiiieeeee!  yay!

heart,
miss h.
np: butchies, population 1975

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has anyone noticed the new pic on the ig web-site?
  i don't think it was there before, or maybe i just
missed it, but it is so cute!  it's beige colored with
emily sitting on a couch, looking at the camera, which
amy is looking up and smiling.  too cute! lol

samantha


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  ok everyone, this is the last reminder - michelle
malone will be playing at "the wire" in new cumberland
this sunday - 7 pm.  tickets go onsale sunday around 6
pm.  i will be there, if anyone wants to say hi.  i
will be the 5'3 brunette with the blue-jean baseball
hat on, screaming my lungs out!  feel free to say hi,
as i'm going alone.
  hope to meet a few listies there.
  later -
  samantha

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i hear you marlas i am steaming mad about how this show was sold.

i called (from vancouver) at 10:01 am and got a 26th row seat (z34)
because the priority was given to the people in line. i can appreciate
that the in line people should be given consideration but i don't know
how they knew how many tickets would be sold from the line, especially
that early. why not just limit the number each phone caller can have?

i called back when i got home from work to complain and see if there was
anything better left but they are almost sold out. it's not even the
fault of the venue, apparently the ticket policy was set by the rentors
production people (i blame russell carter or maybe nasty dave the road
manager). it is odd that they didn't tell you where your seat is. if
they did give you a seat number you can find out where you are at the
mt. baker theatre web site: http://www.mtbakertheatre.com

i hope there were some listees in the line who did scoop the good
tickets, i hate to think they went to the less than obsessive....

thanks for letting me vent. i feel a bit better now, but i'm still
pissed.

helen


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date:    fri, 8 oct 1999 13:03:53 -0700
from:    marlas s <anekdote@yahoo.com>
subject: bellingham show again

thanks to everyone who answered me. i got tix but have
no idea where the seat is. she was very unhelpful and
said she couldn't tell me where my seat is because
people waiting in line had priority?! what does that
mean? does anyone know anything about this venue?

m.

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i loved this album from the first listen-through, but i think i love it
even more now.  i've been listening to it almost nonstop since i got it.
well, with the exception of the evening that i decided to make myself two
compilation tapes, one entirely of amy's songs, and one of emily's.
(don't ask what i named them--you don't even want to know.)

i've decided that i love cons more for emily's songs than for amy's, even
though amy's songs are awesome too.  (no.  it is not just a blonde thing
this time, mmmkay?)  i'm forever commenting out loud to myself in the car
on the songs, and it seems that the words i tend to come up with for amy's
songs are "kickass" and "this one rocks!"  for emily, the phrases "it's
just gorgeous" and "you go, em!" get bandied about kerrison (that's my
car) quite often.

so, a few more comments on the songs, now that the "getting to know you"
stage is done with and i've become quite good friends with them . . .

"go" -- still love it.  still wish amy'd cut loose more on the last part,
those last repetitions of "go, go, go."  they're ever so much more
appealing to me when she's rasping them out at the top of her lungs.  ;)

"soon be to nothing" -- i really love the tradeoff near the end, the
round-like repetition of "i'll soon be to nothing, but i don't know when"
that amy and emily do.  it's beautifully seamless, and reminds me over and
over again just how well these two women work together.  and i love how
emotional em sounds.

"gone again" -- one of these days, i'll get arrested for dancing like a
complete idiot in a public place or something, and it'll be all amy's
fault, because this song just makes me want to do that, and breaks down
all my resistance to doing so!  i love the twangy feel.  it just makes me
smile.  i think my face will eventually split in two.

"trouble" -- love it.  love it.  really, really love it.  i love getting
to know this aspect of emily's music.  always knew she had it in her.

"sister" -- four words: shivers down the spine.  it's so haunting and
amazing, and with amy singing in that register . . . *rowr*  the stark
feel, the sheer emotion, the longing . . .

"peace tonight" -- this is the one i roll down my car windows and crank up
the stereo for.  the hapless people i drive by are not too happy with me
for it.  but heck . . . it just makes me feel good.

"ozilline" -- this one's really grown on me.  i know, 'cause i'll catch
myself wandering through the house and randomly belting out "oh,
ozilline!" at the top of my lungs.

"we are together" -- you know, i can't help but mentally associate this
song with "galileo," because it makes me think of soulmates meeting again
for the first time in their current incarnations.  i still love it.

"cold beer and remote control" -- another one i love to belt.  i really
appreciate the irony in it; the carefree way that emily sings "i try not
to care, i would lose my mind running 'round the same thing time after
time" reminds me of the way i used to say "hell, i never go to class. no
big deal."  i'd say it like it was nothing, like i was proud of it, but
inside i'd be feeling sick to my stomach and like everything was about to
cave in on me.  good venting song for me.

"compromise" -- i'll give myself headaches, headbanging to this one.  i'll
be forever deciphering it though, i'm afraid.  ;)

"andy" -- dear gods . . . i love this song!  i love how the slide guitar
intro gets me into the mood right away.  yeah, the lyrics are disturbing,
but i have to appreciate that.  this is a song that, musically, could lull
me so easily into complacency if i didn't stop and really *listen* to it.
sonically speaking, it's gorgeous, and sports probably my favorite a/e
harmonies on the album, especially in the second and third verses, where
emily starts off with the melody line, and suddenly switches to the
harmony, while amy jumps in seamlessly to pick up the melody.  but despite
the great sound, the last few lines just linger in my mind, unsettling.
oh no, this isn't just the pretty little ballad it seems to be.

"faye tucker" -- love the celtic feel. <g>  not my favorite track on the
album, but it's growing on me.  slowly.  but surely.

y'know, there's a strong possibility that cons may just usurp so's spot as
my favorite ig album of all time.  actually, i think it just did.

        battle on,
        shanie
        (emily advocate; gabfan; dedicated champion of the underrated blonde)
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and poke them so full of holes!"  -- kerry stuart in "tropical storm," by
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ugh bar girls...ugh clair of the moon... 2 terrible terrible movies...

but thumbs up to go fish, 2 girls in love, and when night is falling  :)


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taken out of context i must seem so strange....  ani

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date:         fri, 8 oct 1999 14:48:15 +0100
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greetings to all.

just want to declare to everyone that i *love* this album.  i admit to
being a bit concerned about how i would react to it, considering some of
the negative reviews some people were posting.  for instance, i didn't
think i'd like "peace tonight" - a lot of you seemed to trash it.  but i
love it!  its got kind of a van morrisson "bright side of the road" kind of
feel to it.  i also love sister, cold beer, gone again, trouble . . .
actually i love them all.   of course i adore carol isaacs' accordian
playing at the end of faye tucker (me being a celt an' all, i have to!),
but truthfully i would have preferred just the accordian, and not natacha
atlas singing over it.

also love the "in-between songs" bits;  e.g."cool, i can handle a couple of
beats"!  makes me happy and smiley!

about "compromise" anyone else think that the very first line is like pj
harvey's song "snake"?  its got the same kind of cadence to it.

all i have to do now is wait (im)patiently for them to tour here in ireland
so i can hear the songs live!

fare thee well, my bright stars!
marion (aka molly)

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casey wrote:
> i was just wondering if anyone knew if the national day for coming out
was
> oct 11th or oct 8th....
        i think most folks have realized that the 11th is coming out day, but as
my best friend in australia informed me, the 8th is international lesbian
day.
deb

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i found myself liking this song, beautiful tune and lyrics, and i absoluble
agree it's brillant when amy and emily switch the lead vocal on the 3rd
verse. but i found myself have to struggle to hear the voices, because all
the instruments are drowning them. ah, another badly produced song.

just my .02

dotty

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i have 2 extra tickets to the nov. 7th show in berkekley that i'm not going
to need.  if you're interested let me know.

2 tickets at regular price, $35.00 each plus convenience, handle fees

indigo girls, berkeley community theatre
november 7, 1999  8:00pm
orchestra, row r, seats 5-7

thanks,
sue :-)

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>love it!  its got kind of a van morrisson "bright side of the road" kind of
>feel to it.

that's it!! i was going to write in about how i thought peace tonight
sounded like van morrison, but i just couldn't quite reach the song my mind
was trying to find. thank you - this is the one. i absolutely agree, and i
like it too - it is a fine upbeat pop tune.

along with many others of you who have expressed this, far and away my
favorite on this album is sister. i can't wait to hear it live again. the
first time i heard this song was at waterloo in august - wow, it grabbed me
- i didn't know about the song at that time (hadn't joined the list yet and
was out of touch). then i heard a few seconds of it over the bumbershoot
broadcast (on the original broadcast night, when all i could get was 30
seconds here and there). just those few seconds grabbed me again. what a
powerful something about that song. i'm trying not to play it too much so
it hits me freshly and with full force every time.

i really like this album. all the songs are strong in different ways. i
also think there are very good things about the way it is produced. it
gives us a fuller experience of amy and emily's expression by broadening
the sound palette. i think they use the new tools well; i love the growth
that's evident in these songs, and i love the new ways they reach me.

can't wait for the upcoming ny shows!
-sue

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the indigo girls are  "folk music?."  what do
they call "go?" and "shame on you?"
"chickenman?"  as  a major folk fan for 15 years, if the critcics want
folk  just go to a  john
mccutcheon, bill staines,  tom paxton, alice di mecelli,  they'll get
their folk music with them.

the girls rock!!  big time,  and they're  grrrreat!


peace,

barb

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hey gang-

i don't know how many of you are fellow etta james fans, but i've just
started a discussion list for her on onelist... must. bond. with. other.
etta. fans!! soooo if you're interested, head on over there & sign up!!

peace,
rick

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ummmm...

there hasn't been any talk about this, so i'll bring it up. should we have
one? i've never done this before, so i'm not sure how this should go. my
sister brought up the idea, and she hasn't posted anything. anyway, i'm just
putting it out there, and asking if someone who's done this before could plan
it, or whatever:) besides, i'm just a kid:)

pax, celeste

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i was falling asleep to a pepe le pew cartoon last
night when pepe said "it was love at sight first, no?"
made me think of the little grammer discussion on
this list inverting order word about.  (hehe)  i of
course believe that an artist can play with such
conventions in a poem, within certain limits.  of
course, when pepe did it, it just sounded foolish.
(at least emily never said, "i wish i was a nomad, an
indian, or a saint")

weird ig moment for the day: i was sitting in creative
writing class while the prof was talking bout our next
assignment, the persona poem, when i realized i was
singing, "andy, do you love me..."

lroi


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voila.  alas my gf and i have shared a brain and translated the lyrics of ms. em in sister.  we believe it to be:
"i wish i were a mother, with a baby at my breast.  i am just a farmer, with a milk cow and a mess."

toodles for now

oh yea.  i forgot to share my ig moment last weekend at old navy.  get this:  i heard a dance mix of shed your skin.  i was laughing so hard.  i had to go over to the manager and ask what cd it was from.  it really wasn't that bad of a job either.  hmm.   disco ig.  now there's a concept. . . maybe next album

nancy

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hey folks,

just a reminder for those of you with access to these shows:

>from the epic site:
>indigo girls on tv
>  indigo girls will be making some tv appearances in
>  october! on monday, october 11th, tune in to the rosie
>  o'donnell show. then on friday, october 15th, you can see
>  them on the view. make sure you check out these shows!

-sherlyn
=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-= [sydney, australia]
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  but the way i feel tonight, it's like i'm already there..."
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nancy lambert wrote:

> oh yea.  i forgot to share my ig moment last weekend at old navy.
> get this:  i heard a dance mix of shed your skin.  i was laughing so
> hard.  i had to go over to the manager and ask what cd it was from.
> it really wasn't that bad of a job either.  hmm.   disco ig.  now
> there's a concept. . . maybe next album

you mean, you're going to drop this little gem on us, and tell us that
you did the research to find out what it's from, and not tell
us?????????

c'mon... spit it out...  you just know we're all dying for the details.

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hlc wrote:

> i called (from vancouver) at 10:01 am and got a 26th row seat (z34)
> because the priority was given to the people in line. i can appreciate
> that the in line people should be given consideration but i don't know
> how they knew how many tickets would be sold from the line, especially
> that early. why not just limit the number each phone caller can have?

okay, i probably shouldn't be sharing this -- it's a secret, but if
you're willing to take your chances with not getting perfect seats...

very often, a concert which is "sold out" will suddenly have good
tickets available.  or sometimes you'll be 98th in line for buying tix,
and when you get there, two front-row seats will pop up as available.

what often happens is that people placing telephone credit card orders
will have their credit cards refused (these things aren't always run
through the credit card company while you're on the phone), and the
tickets will be returned to the available ticket pool.

i've had it happen where i've called the day after a show was announced
as "sold out" over the radio ("can you believe it!  prince sold out in
45 minutes!"), and have gotten seats... because of exactly this.

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william shakespeare took great liberties with the english language, making up
his own word when existing ones wouldn't do, etc.
if it's good enough for shakespeare, it's good enough for the girls
peace
vesper

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    i am writing to share my exhubrance at  getting third row tickets for the
mobile show on october 24th.  i am going to be dancing on clouds until then.

    colline

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i actually have a tape that i picked up at atlanta pride 98... it's a comp
with a bunch of people (gloria estefan included) and the dance remix of shed
your skin. *very* odd... i don't know where else you can find it though.

:) peace,
rick
listening to: the cars/the cars

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this was actually the va show...but who's checking? so it was awesome.
awesome. highlights were jsut about every damn song. emily even played soon
be to nothin which is quickly becoming my new fav. if it weren't for the
damn anal-retentive event staff, grumble grumble...

but all is well. (and i'm gonna get killed for saying this, but my
girlfriend did an awesome boot of the show that we listened to on the way
home)

and i got a pick. yay!

:o )

waiting for the 15th in nj...

-lyndsay

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the shed your skin dance mix would be the tom morello from rage against
the machine remix, right?

                "happiness is a by-product, not a goal"
                                -eleanor roosevelt

                "like leaves tapping on the bedroom window
                        when the wind is howling out,
                come the whispers of past wrongs we've done
                        and the jury's still out..."
                                -a.m.

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so, is anyone going to try to go to the rosie taping on monday?????
it's pretty easy to get stand-by tickets. i've done it a few times and i was
thinking about trying again on monday......
anyone interested in joining me????

dawn-michelle

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hey,

does anyone have any tickets for the monday or wednesday show?

are they sold out?

i need two or just one.
thanks.

be soul

please respond at electricorganicunfolding@yahoo.com
because i get a lot of mail at this address and it would take too much time
to differentiate.

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hi,

i'm selling 2 third row floor seats (amy side) to the oct 22nd indigo =
girls concert in athens, ga. in which shawn mullins is also scheduled to =
perform.

if you are interested, please respond by email at =
mnap@globalconnection.net.

thanks,
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in a message dated 10/4/99 9:27:04 pm pacific daylight time,
scarybiker@cs.com writes:

<< grin> pardon the bad, bad rhymes.
  peace,
   rick >>
aw geez rick, tell you what, when the girls play atlanta, you plan on being
here and we'll figure out how!  (lisa is in charge of getting the tickets)
btw, it was pretty funny  n

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hi,

i was wondering if there's anyone out there who's going to get to the nj show
early in the day (before 3-4pm).  if you are, i have a huge favor to ask but
i have 3rd or 4th row beacon tix (all nights) to trade in exchange.  please
email me privately if you're going to nj early.

thanks,
carlisle

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has any kind soul out there worked out the tabs to sister yet?


peace and pride,
- jen mek

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this got sent back to me! so i thought i'd send it to the list.... =3d0)

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marion_o'sullivan@health.irlgov.ie wrote:
greetings to all.

just want to declare to everyone that i *love* this album.of course i ado=
re
carol isaacs' accordian
playing at the end of faye tucker (me being a celt an' all, i have to!)

yeah, baby!!!!  =

=3d0)  -k

they did faye tucker last night at the dc show (technically it was in va)=
and
it rocked! i was dancing like a loon!!!!


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oh-my-gosh!!!!!!!!!! the show last night was awesome!!!!!!!  we were so close!
ok, well 8th row, but i've never been that close! aaaaagggghhhhh!!!
i was dancing like a complete maniac. i almost pulled a mary catherine
gallagher a few times by falling onto the chairs behind me! =0)
it was fun to meet some list people, esp. renee who toughed it out in the cold
for 2 hours after the show to wave to the girls! aaghhhhhh!
it was such an awesome show.....
i'll post the setlist and comment more later (yay for all of you who'll get
another winded message from me!) on our way out now.....
=0)   -k

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i have some extra tickets to the monday night show at the beacon.  i am
asking face value for the tickets.  if money is an issue, and you can
come up with a good story or reason, perhaps we can work out a deal.  i
would just like to see the tickets go to a happy ig fan.
please email me quickly, because i am leaving for nyc sunday morning.

elise

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hey ya'll, here are the final plans for the list meet at the bronco bowl =
in dallas.  we are going to meet at luby's (about 1/2 mile from the bb) =
on the corner of hampton and fort worth ave at 6:00pm.  if you are not =
able to make it to luby's we are going to meet again by the will call at =
the bronco bowl at 7:00pm (show starts at 8:00).  i am 5'9" with really =
short brown hair and i will most likely be wearing khaki pants and a =
michelle malone "homegrown" t-shirt.  if you need directions you can =
call the bronco bowl at (214)-943-1777 or go to their website at =
www.broncobowl.com/ .  if you have any other questions feel free to =
email me and i will be happy to help.  hope to see all of you there.


jason lee
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haha when i have to generalize and make up a label for
all the music i listen to (ig, disappear fear, dar
williams, ani difranco, sarah m etc) i say i listen to
"lesbian folk rock". if i get a "huh?" i say "lilith
fair stuff". of course i've got dan bern pegged as a
lesbian folk rocker too which doesn't really make much
sense.. :-)

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hello again!

i can't thank you guys enough for all the great vibes
yesterday!  the surgery went off with out a hitch.
when i spoke to my dad last night, he sounded like he
had just won the lotto!  i think i have never heard
his voice more clear and full of joy!

so again... thanks for all the email and for the
posts.  it was a very hard day for my family,but just
knowing that folks were praying, posting, and sending
positive energy really helped!

babs

ps: only 2 more days till ig in nyc!

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huge favor!
huge!
  anyone going to monday night's show and will be near the living room
(corner of stanton and allen) sometime between now and then????

i left my shirt there (my overshirt, not my "shirt covering my bra shirt")
last thursday at the rose show and i called them and asked them to hold it.
  but i have to work monday and have just enough time to get from work to the
concert.  i don't have time to get the shirt and i'm scared they'll throw it
out.  grrr!!
so is anyone going to be around there or does anyone live around there who
would be kind enough to pick it up for me?????
i would be eternally grateful!!!
thanks!
carrie

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date:         sat, 9 oct 1999 13:45:58 -0500
reply-to:     carrie j beitlich <cjb21@juno.com>
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can anyone give me the address of that new site with the screen
saver...accidentally got erased.   thank you
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i loved bar girls and claire of the moon!  i also loved go fish, two
girls, and when night is falling...it's all about perspective...if you
think about it - bar girls is so like that in real life and it's fucking
hysterical.  but if you go into it thinking it's gonna be some serious
portrayal of lesbian life, you will be disappointed...i dunno...it's all
about taste in movies i suppose.

hell, i'm seeing people say they hated better than chocolate and my friend
(not on here) emailed me recently and said she thought it ws fabulous...it
all depends i suppose...

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hi, i'm kelly and i just joined the list a few minutes ago.  my favorite cd
is rites of passage, and my favorite song is probably either "galileo" or
"ghost." my friends and i went to their show at the patriot center last
night, and we just had a great time. :)  did anyone else go?

i was wondering if anyone would be willing to hook me up with bootlegs.  i
can't trade anything, since i'm new to the bootleg experience, but i could
send blank tapes and postage money, if that would be okay.  i'd like just
about anything. :)

thanks. :)

kelly

"i would launch a thousand ships to bring your heart back to my island."
indigo girls; "ghost"

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i just have to comment on this movie... i loved it!  maybe i'm just a
sucker for a good romantic comedy, but i thought it was a great film.
where else do you get to see sex between two women, between a woman and
a man with a butt-plug, and a mom and her vibrator.  i highly recommend
it.

erica

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well---since no one has really posted a review---i guess i'll attempt to, but this is my first,
so please, someone else feel free to jump in!

first of all the concert kicked ass! i have never been that close (except at the 9:30 club) and
i was with awesome people....it was just beyond description. the crowd was great----(except two
annoying girls in front of me who kept doing cheers???) and  the music was loud---i still can
hear their voices in my head.
        the opening act was the butchies.....i truthfully have never seen them before---or heard
their music....it was cool---they smile a lot!
        ig----were to die for. em was wearing all black...with blue suede shoes and amy was
wearing satin-like powder blue pants and some weird striped/flower shirt....they weren't very
talkative, but amy kept coming to the side edge of the stage---and dancing for us, and waving
and looking at everyone. i swear she was born to be a punk rocker....amy did talk about low
broadcast radio during the encore...that was the most they probably said. i loved how emily
looked so shocked that we know so many of the songs lyrics....like we don't listen to the cds or
something!!! she let us sing a lot.....
        this woman in the front row in front of me (i was third row.)...had a sign that had
"amy, for the love of god, play romeo & juliet"...and on the other side it had something about a
set list. amy came over, read it---and acknowledged her. at the end of the concert she handed
her the set list and a pick....i thought the woman was going to die. it was pretty
entertaining---and sweet on amy's part.
        i have somewhat of a set list---this is all my sister and friend could remember we know
the order of the beginning---and the end---but the middle is probably mixed up and missing some
stuff....so somebody else should step up and post it---mine is just a huge guess....oh..one more
thing, the cello player is awesome....

go
peace tonight
scooter boys
**then it gets foggy---
get out the map
sister
trouble
closer to fine
least complicated
3 hits
shed your skin
ghost (oh, my god---i thought i had died and gone to heaven--this is one of my favs!!)
land of caanan
ozillene
fay tucker
***remember this part
shame on you

encore
soon be to nothing
compromise
galileo

it feels like i am missing a lot of songs...or that time just stood still....it was just an all
time blast....9:30 club was still better.....but i have never danced harder as here.
hope you all have a great day!
ciao--meg

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so wow.  i havent even said anything about this
show...but i have to say - hot damn -what a show!  the
concert has totally kicked me into la la land...with
thoughts of quitting my job and going to as many shows
as possible!  *laughing*  ok i cant really quit my job
or anything...well i could - but then i'd have to find
another one.  *smile*  anyway.

it was so upbeat!  i danced and danced.  amy and emily
were just fun - smiling, laughing, talking.  that's
all good.  afterwards i was able to shake hands w them
and get their autographs.  *grin*  i was in awe of
meeting them...how amazing.  they are so generous to
take time to sign things b4 getting on that big ol
bus.  i dont think ill ever forget that night - i got
in the car and felt so peaceful.  i think that's what
it's all about.

anyway.  kickass show.

take it easy -
sunny - who feels like such a teenager! *laughing*
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hkf's,
there was an article in the atlanta journal-constitution today about the
girls playing in atlanta.  here it is:

"intimate indigo girls"
decaturs' indigo girls, whose most recent atlanta shows have been at music
midtown and chastain park amphitheatre, will move into the intimate downtown
tabernacle - capacity about 1,000 - for a series of concerts starting dec.
16.  prices haven't been determined, but tickets likely will go on sale nov.
1.  russell carter, the indigos' attorney/manager, said demand will
determine how many performances vocalists amy ray and emily saliers will
schedule.  they've been touring since sept.  28 to push their seventh epic
studio album, "come on now social."

well, that's it.  hope you enjoyed it.

heather

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yes, it says 'probe effect.'  cover your eyes if that makes you titter.
also: superfluous exclamatory-type punctuation follows.  careful.

please post to dar-list, baigls, neudls, any other foodls.

die a little death everyday.
*j

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10.8.99     www.erinmckeown.com

late schedule addition, call your friends!!!! new york city!!!!!
sun. 10/10, 7:30 & 10:30pm - at the bottom line in nyc -
15th w. 4th st. - 212.228.6300 - all ages
jess klein and erin mckeown open for the 10,000 maniacs
tickets are $20 (yes, that's steep for po' college kids, but it will be a
great show, so please try to come if you can).

voices on the verge probe effect.
we send two of them out to check for signs of life.
astronaut mckeown and astronaut klein have agreed to the mission.

thanks for listening...   do the nasty do the nasty.

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8 oct   as220, providence ri 9pm  $5  401.831.9327 huge solo show!!!
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22 oct  fire and water, northampton ma 9pm  413.586.8336
23 oct  molly's pub, wellesley college, ma  9pm
4 nov    mt holyoke, holyoke ma 9pm
7 nov   the met cafe, providence ri  $8 9pm cd release!!! w/andy
stochansky!!!
13-21st november is voices on the verge tour!!! check the website for
details
20 nov  somerville theater, somerville ma 7pm  w/voices on the verge

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in a message dated 10/9/99 8:07:41 am eastern daylight time,
n1910493@sparrow.qut.edu.au writes:

> the shed your skin dance mix would be the tom morello from rage against
>  the machine remix, right?

no- it's an actual dance mix... it's just bizarre...

:) rick

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vesper wrote:

<<  other copies from it...if you want your blank cdrom back or anything, let
me
know.
cheers
vesper >>

at first i read cdrom as condom. don't know why. lol tired? yes i am. think
i'll sleep now before i lose my mind and start thinking i see the indigo
girls running past my house.

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details!  we want the details!

rick b sayre wrote:

> > the shed your skin dance mix would be the tom morello from rage against
> >  the machine remix, right?
>
> no- it's an actual dance mix... it's just bizarre...

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hey y'all,
i'm still distressed that new orleans doesn't seem to have a concert date
yet... if i'm wrong and n.o. is on the schedule, please someone let me know.
anyway, i'm going to try to make the mobile concert, but there are logistical
problems...for one thing, i don't have a ticket and i don't have a credit
card to order one... and i don't know the mobile area at all... so here's
what i'm hoping:  one of you wonderful listees in mobile who might have an
extra ticket would meet me at a designated place, and i would of course
purchase the ticket... and i'd either go to the venue with you or i could
follow you in my car.  anyone who would be able to do this huge favor for me
i would love forever.. actually, i would make sure that this hospitality
would be worth your while...   is there any talk of a listmeet?  if so, maybe
the organizer could e-mail me and let me in on it.  thanks in advance.  long
live ig
freida

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there are four dance mixes on a promo 12"

look for some or all of them on the forthcoming attack of the killer
b-sides - rarigies volume 4...

(just need cortez the killer with band de soleil if anyone has it handy to
cdr it to me...)

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hey ig people,

i'm back for the reviews of the new one.  i'msure it's a whole new list of
folks than when i was last here, and i'm excited to see what's being said about
the new cd.  i have it in my ear right now and i love it so far.  glad to hear
amy finally went somewhere with go.  who could not dig that lady?

i have more respect for the girls with each effort - they are so talented and
truly gifted.

anyway, i look forward to all of your comments, and of subjecting you to mine!

bye now,

bonnie lacey

graham ames wrote:

> details!  we want the details!
>
> rick b sayre wrote:
>
> > > the shed your skin dance mix would be the tom morello from rage against
> > >  the machine remix, right?
> >
> > no- it's an actual dance mix... it's just bizarre...
>
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whoever is going to eddie's attic to see rose polenzani
this coming friday or saturday (10/15 or 16),
*please* email me.  it's important.
(in a vegan sort of way.)
it's easy, free**, and more random than, um, danielle howle.

i need your assistance, in a manner not unlike that of the ups guy.
qualified applicants need possess minimum 1 (one) functioning hand. in the
absence of a hand, any other suitable appendage may be substituted. no brown
uniform or doorless vehicle necessary.  void where prohibited by law.
position open only to listee residents, 21 years and older.
okay, i lied about the age thing.  i just wanted to say that, because that's
what the fine print always says.

inquire within asap.

**in the sense that we all are free.

jill

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if you still need tickets for the monday night show at the beacon,
e-mail me at:
eans1089@aol.com.  just asking face value.  if you can't afford it, let
me know and we'll work it out.

thanks,
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hey all,

for those wondering about the sys dance mixes...
there's a 'demonstration only' vinyl 12" with 4 different dance remixes of
sys (2 each by stephen nikolas and audio dependency syndrome). it was
released by epic in july of '98, and you might be able to find it at
specialist vinyl places. sometimes it comes up on ebay, but don't pay more
than $15 for it...
it's pretty hardcore dance music & it's quite odd to hear ig in that
context. very interesting though ;-)

sorry if this is old news - i'm on digest.

bye for now,

jen mcq

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was anyone at the show last night - acoustic cafe - ???

rose p. is playing there tonight .... it's a great little place that just
opened - mm told everyone to make sure they came to see rose tonight ...

mm was in great form .... very very talkative ...

plenty of good shows coming up the end of this month and november ...

jess klein, pamela means, lori mckenna, erin mckeown, jennifer kimball
to name a few

just curious if anyone went - i didn't get a chance to post this b-4 the show

chris

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ok - to everybody who turned up for the listmeet yesterday -

i'm so, extremely, unconditionally, totally and utterly, sorry.....

i screwed up - bigtime....

2 reasons ------

1. i didn't plan it anywhere near well enough - the train took 2 and a
half hours instead of 2 hours - therefore i was late.

2. i should have given myself more time.

i'm willing to pay some pennance for this, even though it probably
doesn't make up for the years of hell i deserve. now, there is one
artist, pamela means, who has been mentioned on the list a couple of
times but who is fairly difficult to get hold of in the uk, music wise.
for that reason, i'm willing to make copies of the album for everybody
who turned up in bristol yesterday, along with all uk listees, and,
heck, international listees as well.... just send me your postal
addresses, and i'll get the boot machine a-rolling.....

(oh - amy swenson, as of tommorow, your tapes are in the mail.....)

oh - and before anybody asks, yes pamela does encourage taping of her
music.....

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someone just posted to the indiegrrl list about this guy who is collecting used
guitar strings to send to musicians in third world countries.  pretty spiffy.
anyway, if any of the performing musicians on the list want to participate (i
say performing only because they go through more strings than someone like
myself who tends to replace them only when they break or rust), there is a
webpage with all the information here:
        http://darrylpurpose.com/etc/strings.htm

:)
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ok i finally bought the cons and just got done listening to it.  i actually like it compared to u all.  it is twany and a bit country which i think is interesting. it is not as down as i would as rite of passage and indian and saints.  it is a change.  we all must realize that people change styles at times.  i did that wuth my poetry.  on the side i forgot how old amy and emily were.  i mean they are in their 30s instead of their twenties. if i am thinking right and they could might as well be a parent to me.  or are they in their 40s, it doesn't matter just a comment
tat
ps. what is the song that emily sings at the end of faye tucker?  something to do with god and intolorence to gays

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hey all,

i suppose it's a sign of "quality" production values that there's more to these
tracks than you can pick up after a listen or two.  but there's "layered" vocals
and then there's "buried" vocals.  i don't think we're ever going to be able to
make out some of these backing vocals.  in particular:

sister
i still don't think that "i am just a farmer with a milk cow and a mess" is
right.  plus, that lyric doesn't seem to fit the rest of the song.  the backing
vocal on the _chorus_ seems to be "know your ... heart's in ... danger/learn to
... trust a ... stranger".  agreed?

ozilline
i'm convinced that the backing chorus is an actual lyric, not just "oohs" and
"aahs", but i can't make head nor tails of it.  anyone?

trouble
there's some sort of spoken word going on underneath the chorus of this one,
too.  maybe it's joan osborne mumbling something, but i can't make that out,
either.

are there any others we haven't discussed yet?

i think this is going to take some expert lip-reading at one of the live shows
in order to figure this stuff out.  or maybe somebody can even ask them what
they're saying if they get to talk to them after a show.

other questions:

soon be to nothing
where is "kelly mountain"?  after seeing the correct lyrics, i'm not sure i
understand them any better.  is this song about (a) fear of dying, (b) writer's
block, (c) emily saying she's tired of the road, or (d) a failed relationship (i
think someone suggested this one recently)?  what does "barn happy horse on a
one-track course" mean?  is the horse "barn-happy" (i.e., happy to stay in the
barn) or is she suggesting to keep an otherwise happy horse in the barn?

sister
perhaps i don't have the right perspective on this one, but the first thing i
thought of when i heard this song was someone in the witness protection program,
not lesbian passion.  i took the line "i'm studying the distance/between the
blanket and the gun" to be somebody who was afraid to go to sleep because they
might be crept up on and attacked, not any kind of suicidal reference.

compromise
trying to figure this one out, too.  i don't think they're related, but the only
other song i can think of where amy uses the word "compromise" is in "joking":
"forget about your ego, forget about your pride/and you will never have to
compromise".  so, for her, that term is about compromising the integrity of who
you are as a person.  so maybe here she's speaking to someone with whom she
wants to take the lead ("let me take you on this ride"), whom she doesn't quite
understand ("it's the riddle of the skeleton", "you find your worth in words
that wind/pleasures i don't comprehend") but also someone whom she doesn't want
them to sacrifice who they are (i.e., "compromise") in order to be with her.
does that fit?

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soon be to nothing
ok, i think this song is about change.  in the first verse she talks about a
sagging heart and a break apart, suggesting the end of a relationship.
everything she knows that was so easy and comfortable has become strang and
cold. (i pass these pines 'bout a million times, effortlessly. now i grip the
wheel fear is what i feel...)  the chorus could be taken two ways...either
the realtionship was going to be a matter of time, or the pain after the
break up will only be temporary.  the barn happy horse line, i think, is
about being happy with average, not stepping out of your comfort zone and
just staying on that same path the rest of your life.  the line that really
gets me about this song is the next line..."i self-despise crying out my
eyes, cause the happy trail led me to remorse."  that line just gets me.
goes back to the relationship theme.  then the last verse talks about wanting
to hold on to the old and being so used to the old.  so you're just waiting
for the click of the old to let go so you can see what's ahead in your
future.

sorry it's kinda long, but that's my take on it.

:p
tina

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in a message dated 10/10/99 5:14:22 pm est, usul@mindspring.com writes:

<< is the horse "barn-happy" (i.e., happy to stay in the
barn) or is she suggesting to keep an otherwise happy horse in the barn? >>

we in the horse world use the term "barn sour" to describe a horse when taken
away from the barn tries always to run back there.  perhaps barn-happy is
another form of this term, however i've worked with horses for 14 years and
never heard it.

rachel

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ok, i am going to try my best to explain this on the computer.  it's like
telling someone how to blow a bubble with their gum without being able to
show them.  here i go:

you want to put your fingers on the third fret fourth string, fifth fret
fifth and sixth string.  then you pick the strings in this order,
6,5,4,5,6,5,4,5  then you put your fingers on the third fret fourth string,
fourth fret fifth string and fifth fret sixth string.  then you pick the
strings in the same order.  then when the strumming occurs you put your
fingers on the third fret fourth string, fourth fret fifth string and fifth
fret sixth string and strum.  then you slide your fingers down to the second
fret fourth string, third fret fifth and sixth string and strum then you
slide your fingers down to the first fret fifth and sixth string and strum.
you just repeat this.

i hope this wasn't to confusing.  it was the only way i knew how to describe
it.  well, have fun with it.

heather


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>has any kind soul out there worked out the tabs to sister yet?
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hey guys,  i just transcribed the hidden track at the end of the cd.  it comes on at about 9:23 into the last track and goes for about 2 minutes.  that emily can sing so sweet and say so much can't she?  enjoy!

mysterious song at end of cd - indigo girls come on now social


welcome to why the church has died
in the heart of the exile in the kingdom of hate
who owns the land and keeps the commands
and marries itself to the state

modern scribes write "in jesus christ everyone is free"
and the doors open wide to all straight men and women
but they are not open to me

who is teaching our kids to be soldiers
to be marked by a plain white cross
and we kill just a little to save a lot more
the philosophy of loss

there are a few who would be true out of love
and love is hard
and don't think that our hands haven't shoveled the dirt
over their ctrl american graveyards
doctors and  witch hunters stripped you bare
left you nothing for your earthly sins

yeah but who made this noise but a bunch of boys
and the one with the most toys wins

and who is teaching kids to be gamblers
life is a coin toss
and of course what you give up is what you gain
the philosophy of loss

whatever has happened to anyone else
could happen to you and to me
the end of my youth was the possible truth
that it all happens randomly
so who is teaching the kids to be leaders

and the way that it is is meant to be the
philosphy of loss

hope everybody had a good weekend!

bonnie

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hey guys,  i just transcribed the hidden track at the end of the cd. 
it comes on at about 9:23 into the last track and goes for about 2 minutes. 
that emily can sing so sweet and say so much can't she?  enjoy!

<p>mysterious song at end of cd - indigo girls come on now social
<br> 

<p>welcome to why the church has died
<br>in the heart of the exile in the kingdom of hate
<br>who owns the land and keeps the commands
<br>and marries itself to the state

<p>modern scribes write "in jesus christ everyone is free"
<br>and the doors open wide to all straight men and women
<br>but they are not open to me

<p>who is teaching our kids to be soldiers
<br>to be marked by a plain white cross
<br>and we kill just a little to save a lot more
<br>the philosophy of loss

<p>there are a few who would be true out of love
<br>and love is hard
<br>and don't think that our hands haven't shoveled the dirt
<br>over their ctrl american graveyards
<br>doctors and  witch hunters stripped you bare
<br>left you nothing for your earthly sins

<p>yeah but who made this noise but a bunch of boys
<br> and the one with the most toys wins

<p>and who is teaching kids to be gamblers
<br>life is a coin toss
<br>and of course what you give up is what you gain
<br>the philosophy of loss

<p>whatever has happened to anyone else
<br>could happen to you and to me
<br>the end of my youth was the possible truth
<br>that it all happens randomly
<br>so who is teaching the kids to be leaders

<p>and the way that it is is meant to be the
<br>philosphy of loss

<p>hope everybody had a good weekend!

<p>bonnie
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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 11:03:26 +1000
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hey folks,

interesting tidbit from the newsgroup...

-sherlyn

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date: sun, 10 oct 1999 15:39:47 -0500

it was discussed here a little while back that amy had finished go in the
wake of the high school shows being cancelled last year. here's a quote from
her from a talk she gave at clemson last year, right before she played "go":

> i'm gonna play a song ... i've been working on this song for a couple of
> years and then i ... actually, i think we were playing at clemson, there
> were all these people waiting out in line in the rain. it was after the
> cancellations that happened. it was super-supportive. so i finished the
> song, because it ... i don't know ... it made me feel good.

doyle srader

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hey folks,

here is the patriot centre set list, which was posted to
the newsgroup...

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for those who are interested, the exact set list from the show was-
go, peace tonight, scooter boys, get out the map, sister, trouble, land of
canaan, closer to fine, shed your skin, cold beer + remote control,
ozilline, ghost, three hits, least complicated, faye tucker, power of two,
shame on you- then the encores were soon be to nothing, compromise,
and galileo.

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hey kind friends,
last night i went to check out a band i'd heard about who are similar to
ig.  wow!  they are fantastic, they're called women in docs and they tour
around australia a bit so if you have a chance to see them, go!
they're an australian ig, they talk a lot with the audience and tell
stories and make jokes, it was fantastic!
and they played land of canaan and get out the map!  as an intro to land
of canaan they asked if anyone was looking for love or had just gone
through a break up, and for get out the map they said, "this is a song
about a sort of extended holiday".
anyway, i talked to the emily lookalike about ig and she said how much she
loved them and everything but she didn't know their new album comes out
here today - there has been absolutely no advertising which is really
disappointing.

oh well, have a good week everyone!
maddie

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hey everybody.... what a crazy weekend! havent really had time to comment
about fri. night's show, so here i am....
um.... i love them. i really, really do. they are such talented, beautiful
women.  i have never danced so much in my life. and the people i went with
were so much fun. we were high on ig!!! it was out of control. amy and emily
had such an awesome energy. they were so psyched to be playing new stuff, and
it rocked, but they cranked out some old crowd pleasers too. the new band is
unbelievable. i know i'm rambling, but i can't describe how cool it was. im
sure you all saw the setlist that was posted. in between songs i would scrawl
date: wed, 20 oct 1999 16:16:06 +0000
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songs down on my ratty, sweaty (gross, i know, but hey, i was dancing like it
was my job) piece of paper that i printed out off the internet that had
directions to the pat. center on it.  i was acting like a complete child. when
emily busted out the banjo, i'd call the song they'd play, or yell it out
enthusiastically when i heard the first riff. i bet people who do that annoy
a lot of you, but im sorry, i couldnt contain myself! it's a little game i
like to play....
emily let us sing practically half of power of two and closer to fine. it was
so great to hear everyone screaming. and the girls ate it up! it was so cute!
emily seemed *impressed* that we knew the lyrics.... ah, if she only knew....
=0)  oh, and they agreed that we were the best singers of the tour so far, and
the loudest! (random babbling.... sorry)
after sister, amy looked totally drained. she let out a little sigh. poor
thing! and (please someone correct me if i got the wrong song here) during
soon be to nothing, amy had her back to us for awhile to let emily have her
'moment' i thought that was pretty cool.  she just let emily go at it while
she played with her back to us. looked cool on stage, too.  faye tucker was
unbelievable. amy started this clapping thing that everyone picked up on. i
was so annoyed though, that at this time some staff person brandishing a
flashlight demanded to see our tickets b.c there was some confusion with a
couple that showed up 2 hours late..... but i kept on clapping and made them
wait at least until the song was over......
um....ok. one word. ghost.
moving right along.... i loved how they were totally into the 'old stuff' amy
could have written land of canaan yesterday, based on how she was singing it.
very cool..... and galileo.... you cant go wrong there.
the drummer kicks ass, and compromise was electrifying. i was so psyched they
played that. an underrated cons song, in my h.o.  amy is a punk rocker......
enough jabbering.... after the show we hung out for 2 hours in the very cool
night air, waiting for the girls to come out of hiding and board the happy fun
bus.  even though it was cold, those 2 hours were so much fun!!! got to meet
some list people, chit chatted with some interesting non-listees.... general
merriment and ig comraderie all around. fun fun fun. so, after almost 2 hours
of patiently waiting for my heroines to emerge, a guard person said that they
were sorry, but had no time to come talk to us b.c they were behind schedule
and had to drive to ny that night.... so amy came out first and everyone did
the scream "woo-hoo!!!!"  i of course did it too, but what exactly is that?
and i was screaming thank you!!!! and amy did a general broad sweeping
bow/wave thing and hopped onto the bus. proceeded to sit down and read
something, and was drinking something.... so, meanwhile, despite the supposed
'rush' emily was still inside taking a bubble bath or something b.c she came
out a good 15 minutes later... same screaming ensued, and as  i screamed thank
you to her, i swear she heard me b/c she blew a kiss in my genereal, if not
immediate =0)  direction.... and with that, satisfied, my 3 friends and i (the
other 3 went home right after the show) staggered dreamily off to our car....
and we took off after the tour bus.... all i got from frantically waving out
the sunroof, and my friend honking her horn, was a wave and smile from the
driver and one of those fog-horn esque honks from the bus.... of course
listened to ig all the way home, and passed out drooling and laughing, still,
at the night's beauty, at around 2:45..............
what an awesome night!!!!! thanks to anyone who actually read all this!!! love
you all  =0)
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ok i'm trying to pack a lot on this mail. first of all, i do agree about the
"buried vocals". for those who was disappointed about little ig harmony on
this cd, imho, although there are less, but there're actually quite a lot of
harmonies on the songs, it's just they are all drowned by the instruments and
we can't hear them.

misheard lyrics-on sister, when i first heard that on the 9:30 club boot, i
thought at the end "go ahead" is "go to hell" :)

one of the concerts review on this list mentioned that amy mentioned the lack
of radio play on this cd. indeed, consider how extremely radio-friendly peace
tonight is, i'd think there'd be a lot more play. in chicago, as far as i
know only one station play that. and i remember there're at least one more
station that play shame on you during the sots period. can anybody explain
why to me?? it shouldn't be the gay thing, because everyone is playing
melissa etherige.

and i can't believe chicago tribune didn't do a review on their album. they
wrote about sting's, which was released on the same day, and me's.

thanks for reading
dottie

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does anyone have the music to "love will come to you" , "wood song" and/or
"mystery" ? i would love you forever if you do. not that i don't love all of
you anyway=) thanks a bunch!!

casey

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 13:43:45 +1000
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hi folks,

dottie said:
>one of the concerts review on this list mentioned that amy mentioned the lack
>of radio play on this cd. indeed, consider how extremely radio-friendly peace

actually, what amy was talking about was low-power radio
stations - she's been involved in a group which has been
lobbying for us community radio...

-sherlyn
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  don't assume anything, just go go go"         - indigo girls

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date:         sun, 10 oct 1999 22:45:20 -0600
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ok, so they tour in australia, but can you get their albums elsewhere?

amy m.

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                -the goddess, amy ray

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hey all,
does anybody know what's up with the fillmore date for november 20? it's
on all the web sites but ticketbastard is disavowing all knowlege. god
how i hate them.

i've got tix for the 19th, but nothing was on sale for the 20th. should
i start moping now? is this a bad sign? oh nevermind. i'll just wait and
see. but if anybody does happen to know anything, i'd like to know
what's going on.

thanks and hope everybody's monday feels like a thursday.
cheers,
kc

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hey!

i'm back from kyushu a few hours earlier than expected (i got sick and had to shorten my trip a bit).

anyway, i am reminding y'all once more ... if you haven't voted for your favorite cons song, do it now!  i am tallying the votes tonight!

it's easy.  just send a message with your vote in the subject field to karen_chun@keromail.com   remember, you can vote for up to 2 songs (one would just be too hard!)

:-) karen

ps- my friend from australia told me that when i go there to go to king's cross!  :-)

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"but the road is long, and the song is gone, i blow empty in my cicada shell,
if i saw my choice, i might find my voice, but i don't know when and i just can't tell."
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hey folks,

i found out what a ngoni is - it's a "plucked lute from west
africa" (http://www.coraconnection.com/pages/ngoni.html).

simone hardy, who opened for the girls at a few of their 1998
australian shows, has a single out called "say what i mean".
what i heard of it sounded like fairly standard pop.  she
didn't impress me all that much at the time - it seemed like
the record company had gotten her the slot in an attempt to
give her a profile.  strange as she then disappeared from view
for more than a year and a half...

oh, ages ago somebody was asking about the boot of the feb 27
1998 sydney show, and why there was a break in the music in
"shame on you".  i meant to answer at the time, but hopefully
it isn't too late now.  what happened was - at the point in
the song where emily switches from banjo to guitar, amy just
forgot to keep playing, and stood their watching emily until
she realised that it was still the middle of the song and
neither of them were playing.  doh!  *grin*

happy happy folks,
sherlyn

ps - deb - you were right, "criminal white collar" *is*
annoying (more so since you pointed it out :).  also annoying
is "but the kids still selling lemonade".  unless that's
supposed to be "kid's", that sentence needs a verb...

=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-= [sydney, australia]
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  don't assume anything, just go go go"         - indigo girls

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hi everyone,

i don't know if this has been mentioned but has anyone heard the howling
dogs at the end of sister?  turn the volume up as soon as the last chords
of sister fades out and there are a few seconds of maniacal howling dogs.
dogs seem to be a recurring theme through ig albums:)

annie

                "happiness is a by-product, not a goal"
                                -eleanor roosevelt

                "like leaves tapping on the bedroom window
                        when the wind is howling out,
                come the whispers of past wrongs we've done
                        and the jury's still out..."
                                -a.m.

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leave it to the trib not to review cons...
i mean (from before cons was released.  i have no idea what is happening now), chicago is the city without a decent radio station.  i think i *once* heard one ig song (besides soy on the poppy stations) on the radio.
for all of you who live in chi-town, i am wondering: is cons getting any radio airplay whatsoever?
:-) karen
ps- remember to vote for your fave cons song by sending an e-mail to karen_chun@keromail.com  i am tallying the votes in about six hours -- maybe even a little less!

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if i saw my choice, i might find my voice, but i don't know when and i just can't tell."
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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 10:19:43 +0100
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again, my surname causes confusion!  you see, my surname is o'sullivan, and
that tiny little apostrophe between the o and the s causes catastrophes!  i
had to set up a yahoo account, because lots of stuff on the web (including
the ig website) won't accept my work e-mail address because of this
apostrophe - i reckon its a conspiracy against irish surnames!

so anyway, karen, the omission of that little apostrophe is the reason why
your mail got sent back to you.

fare thee well my bright stars,
marion.
(currently whistling gone again)


this got sent back to me! so i thought i'd send it to the list.... =0)

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-----> top records ----->
for the week of october 3rd, according to soundscan
1/ new creed human clay (1) [315,000 units sold]
2/ new garth brooks in... the life of chris gaines (1) [262k] (capital
nashville)
3/ new method man & redman blackout (1) [254k] (def jam)
4/   3 santana supernatural (16) [159k] (arista)
5/   2 backstreet boys millennium (20) [158k] (jive)
6/   4 christina aguilera (6) [133k] (rca)
7/  10 britney spears ...baby one more time [132k] (jive)
8/ new marc anthony (1) [124k] (columbia)
9/   8 dixie chicks fly (5) (monument/sony)
10/  9 kid rock devil without a cause (40) [117k] (atlantic)
15/new sting brand new day [91k]
16/  1 nine inch nails the fragile (2) (nothing/interscope)
32/new lost boyz lb iv life (1)
34/new indigo girls come on now social (1)
65/new everything but the girl temperamental (1) (atlantic)

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<<<<<hey all,
does anybody know what's up with the fillmore date for november 20? it's
on all the web sites but ticketbastard is disavowing all knowlege. god
how i hate them.>>>


i think that there will only be a show on 11/20 if this one sells out, which
*i* would think it would, but *i* kinda don't want it to, cause my arse is
gonna be sitting on colfax all dang day on 11/19, and i know, that if
there's a show on the 20th, too, i'll do it all again... : )

joanne


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i'm curious.  do any of you actually keeps track of all these setlists
posted here. ? and if you do, what do you do with them?

parker

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happy national coming out day everyone !!!!

i came out to my boss...who did you come out to?


peace and pride,
- jen mek

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hey...

>i'm curious.  do any of you actually keeps track of all these setlists
>posted here. ? and if you do, what do you do with them?

yes, someone does:
www.lifeblood.net

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abi's page!!! http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/abi/abi.html
this week, neil 'as been mostly been listening to:
ferron - 'the ima sessions', a little fairgound atraction; george gershwin
'piano rolls'; james brown 'star time (box)'
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wm shakespeare never had a true dictionary or thesaurus.  amazing, wasn't
he?  the oed came out in the ealry 1920's (complete version).

melissa

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> william shakespeare took great liberties with the english language, making
up
> his own word when existing ones wouldn't do, etc.
> if it's good enough for shakespeare, it's good enough for the girls
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hey!

well, i tallied the votes just now.

so...straight from the source, here are our favorite cons songs:

(please remember that everyone could vote for up to two songs)

sister- 23 votes
gone again- 20 votes
oz.- 17 votes
sbtn- 16 votes
trouble- 13 votes
go- 12 votes
cold beer- 9 votes
compromise- 7 votes
faye tucker- 7 votes
phil. of loss- 6 votes
peace tonight- 2 votes
we are together- 1 vote
andy- 1 vote

anyway, i guess this is most definetely an amy album.  also, another thing i noticed that a lot of peoples two fave songs were sbtn and gone again.  those are my two faves also.  is it something about those 2 songs together?

all right, thanks to everyone who voted!

:-) karen (midterms week sucks...)

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if i saw my choice, i might find my voice, but i don't know when and i just can't tell."
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i had planned to go to this but had a last minute conflict. i hope people
went - i 'd love to hear about it too.

is michelle malone also going to play there?
-sue

at 02:09 pm 10/10/99 edt, guinione@aol.com wrote:
>was anyone at the show last night - acoustic cafe - ???
>
>rose p. is playing there tonight .... it's a great little place that just
>opened - mm told everyone to make sure they came to see rose tonight ...
>
>mm was in great form .... very very talkative ...
>
>plenty of good shows coming up the end of this month and november ...
>
>jess klein, pamela means, lori mckenna, erin mckeown, jennifer kimball
>to name a few
>
>just curious if anyone went - i didn't get a chance to post this b-4 the show
>
>chris
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hmmm... i think everybody at work knows. i came out by
putting a big ol' queer screen saver on my computer. it
actually froze a couple people in their tracks. pretty
cool. it's only for this company (tres les/bi/gay
friendly around here - at least in terms of official
policy - which is cool because it forces people who might
have a problem with it to conduct themselves respectfully
towards everybody, whether they want to or not. most
folks have been pretty alright, fortunately.)... oh...
got sidetracked. if it wasn't just a company queer screen
saver i'd put it out for all y'all.

anyway. maybe i'll come out to the cutie at the 7-11...
queer. here. used to it and pretty darn happy for a
monday,

kristen
> happy national coming out day everyone !!!!
>
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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 08:59:45 -0700
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well, i was gonna come out to the boss but then i remembered, i *am* the
boss. can't come out to the family cuz i already did that when i figgered it
all out for myself. not exactly like i go up to a stranger and go "hi, i'm
gay." hate to have em think my name is gay when it ain't. but then, i hardly
keep my orientation secret. hmmmm, i don't have anyone else to come out to!
is there a nat'l. already came out to everyone day?

ryan blackhawke
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> happy national coming out day everyone !!!!
>
> i came out to my boss...who did you come out to?
>
>
> peace and pride,
> - jen mek
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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 12:31:33 -0400
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i have three extra tickets for tonight, 10/11, at the beacon.  i can sell
one, two, or three together.  the tickets are together in orchestra row q.
i will be at the show, so you can get the tickets from me there.  email me
by 4:00 today.

thanks,
lynn
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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 13:12:41 -0400
reply-to:     susan brill <susan.brill@yale.edu>
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from:         susan brill <susan.brill@yale.edu>
subject:      re: backing vocals, misheard lyrics and ig on radio
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>ok i'm trying to pack a lot on this mail. first of all, i do agree about the
>"buried vocals".

even though i like the production on this album, i also agree with this. ig
vocals are central to what makes ig special, and i think it is a mistake to
obscure them. i like the percussion, horns, and even natascha (sp?) atlas
on faye tucker (high emotional impact - haunting sort of wailing sound.) in
general, i think the new things they've tried really add to the message of
the music. i'd love to hear more of this type of production (after another
acoustic album) but with more attention to clear vocals.

about the lack of airplay - this is driving me crazy. i haven't heard them
yet here in ct. i was in the philly area on tues. 5th and heard just about
the whole album on wxpn. i think wfuv in nyc is playing them on a few shows
in their format. but not one note of ig have i heard in ct. i think it's
the format problem that has been mentioned before - they slip through the
format cracks, or we don't have a light rock/folk pop station around here.
melissa e. is played around here, but she fits in the rock format. i think
a song like "trouble" would fit in this format and might make a great
single, but here's where the gay issues come in. i don't think it's so much
whether the artist is gay or straight, but you sure don't hear lyrics about
gay issues too often. how frustrating!!

btw, i saw an article in the wall street journal today about the lack of
advertising to the lesbian market. they discussed an incident where an add
featuring two women embracing passionately (i forget the product) was run
in men's magazines both gay and straight, but not in lesbian magazines.
when the editors of curve contacted the company to solicit the
advertisement, they said their advertising budget was spent. the article
said that just 27% of advertising to the gay market is aimed at lesbians,
and that there is a general perception that lesbians do not buy things like
[and this is right from the article] fashionable clothing, cosmetics, home
furnishings, and a few other things i can't remember, so that it isn't
worth it for many companies to target lesbians.  hmmmmm.

anyway, i don't know whether this would affect the album play, but i'd sure
like to hear more ig on the radio.

-sue

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 12:07:27 -0500
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at 06:14 pm 10/11/99 +0900, karen, the biggest indigo girls bitch of japan
wrote:
>for all of you who live in chi-town, i am wondering: is cons getting any
radio airplay whatsoever?

none that i have witnessed--did it get a mention on xrt's "new music
thursday"?  i missed it that thurs., but it seemed like the obvious time
for some play.  i think they'll have to schedule a show here to get played,
frankly.  (whatever happened to "this is our favorite city to play it,"
btw????)  we get nothing.

margaret

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don't forget to watch the girls on the rosie show today.........

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 13:40:40 edt
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someone mentioned that they didn't know what the hidden track was
called....if you go to launch.com (which is a really shitty site - i can't
figure out why it exists...i don't even think you can order music from them
unless i just haven't figured it out yet...and i couldn't get peace tonight
to play when they had a few weeks back) anyway, launch has a track listing of
cons and the sister reprise and philosophy of loss are both listed as hidden
tracks...

also, i figured i'd give my 2 sense on the whole emily grammar thing - since
i majored in english...there is such a thing called poetic license...that
means that you can essentially tell the english language to go fuck itself
(oh, sorry, am i allowed to swear on this list?) for the sake of poetry and
how words sounds together...i personally love the "criminal white collar"
bit...it's obviously done intentionally because emily is trying to say that
corporations (white-collar criminals) suck but so do the corporate churches
that exist only to spread hatred....hence, there's more than one kind of
criminal (an adjective) white (an adjective) collar..perfectly grammatical...

ok...coming down from my english soapbox...i was wondering if anyone has a
boot of the 4/22/99 (i think that's the date) show..i'm sure it's already
been circulated but i recently joined the list...it's the one that has the
unknown amy song on it - which is what i think she is singing right before
compromise...anyway, if anyone would like to trade, my page (along with some
ig pics)  is here: http://members.aol.com/lisa071573

oh also, sorry this is so long...someone asked about the hidden track on
1200c...my friend had a tape copy of 1200 and the hidden track was not on
there...and speaking of problem child...i think it's on the 9:30 club boot
where amy is talking about go and she says that "this is a new song...well,
it was an old song [problem child] but i rewrote it" after the high school
stuff went down because "those kids were so damn supportive of us."

~lisa

"kristen is so lovely...do i want to, do i want you, or do i want to just be
like you" ~barbara kessler

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 13:42:17 edt
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    rosie's always funny, ya know.  even when she forgets to say at the
beginning of the show that the indigo girls will be on!  she did it alittle
later as she pushes a magic button that plays "closer to fine"! tee hee!!
    so, at the very, very end of the show she introduces them as they stand
next to her. they are all smiles, but say nothing then break into "peace
tonight". when they are through rosie thanks them, mentions cons and the
beacon theartre shows. that was it!
    amy & emily were both totally adorable; em in black, amy in one of her
print shirts and light blue pants. it's just ashame they didnt get to talk!!!
i found that kind of weird.
    oh well it's off to the beacon with me tonight! i'll be in row d (rites
of passage t-shirt and black mototrcycle jacket...oh yea long, dark brown
hair)  just incase anyone wants to say "hi"   i'll be in the same seats
tuesday too!!

                            these butterflies are killing
me!---------danielle in nyc

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 12:01:39 mdt
reply-to:     "joanne ......." <faeriekid@hotmail.com>
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hey gang..


soon to be nothing is playing right now on 97.3 kbco, out of boulder. i
thank heaven's i moved to colorado..

sigh. i'm a happy fan.

joanne

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 11:20:00 pdt
reply-to:     julie libes <mememi@excite.com>
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hey, my name is julie and i rarely post but i needed a medium that reached a
lot of people especially college students.  i'm considering transferring
from the univerwsity i am at right now and the schools i am looking at are
smith college, oberlin, and scripps in california.  the reason for why i
don't like my current school is because much of the student body here is
very apathetic, really closeted and not at all interested in creating
change.  so i (who am really into activism, truly believe in the necessity
of changing the world, the most out person you heve ever met) don't quite
fit in here.  so the college i am looking at has to have excellent academics
but also a student body at least somewhat politically and activist minded.
if you went to either smith, oberlin, or scripps your input would be
appreciated or if you know another school that sounds like what i am
describing, i would love to hear from you as well.

thanks a million,
julie ;-)
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i'm a tad sleep deprived -- could someone write this out as tab for me please?

~ elizabeth

<<
you want to put your fingers on the third fret fourth string, fifth fret
fifth and sixth string.  then you pick the strings in this order,
6,5,4,5,6,5,4,5  then you put your fingers on the third fret fourth string,
fourth fret fifth string and fifth fret sixth string.  then you pick the
strings in the same order.  then when the strumming occurs you put your
fingers on the third fret fourth string, fourth fret fifth string and fifth
fret sixth string and strum.  then you slide your fingers down to the second
fret fourth string, third fret fifth and sixth string and strum then you
slide your fingers down to the first fret fifth and sixth string and strum.
you just repeat this. >>

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 11:49:21 pdt
reply-to:     julie libes <mememi@excite.com>
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if anybody has extra athens tickets, i will gladly take them off your hands.
please let me taske them off your hands!!!!!

love,
julie ;-)
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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 13:13:53 -0600
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sorry for the total waste of email...  if you ever drink blue sky soda or
you especially like green apple jolly ranchers, email me privately.
-g.

also, i have a few copies of that ig article from boulder's colorado daily
(the one where amy talked about communism, dueling divas and plans for the
future).  if you email me, i'll send you one.  :)

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 15:14:20 -0400
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>from:    lisa r <lisa071573@aol.com>
>
>launch has a track listing of
>cons and the sister reprise and philosophy of loss are both listed as hidden
>tracks...

no need to go to launch... it's right on the ig's site
<http://www.indigogirls.com>.

>also, i figured i'd give my 2 sense on the whole emily grammar thing - since
>i majored in english...there is such a thing called poetic license...

no one's arguing that, including this fellow english major.  my argument is
whether the poetic license taken is so intrusive as to question its merit.
(there are other cases where poetic license must be questioned as well --
otherwise, all writing can be dubbed acceptable because of poetic license.)

>i personally love the "criminal white collar"
>bit...it's obviously done intentionally because emily is trying to say that
>corporations (white-collar criminals) suck but so do the corporate churches
>that exist only to spread hatred....hence, there's more than one kind of
>criminal (an adjective) white (an adjective) collar..

how many ways can i say "i *know* what she's trying to emphasize..."?

>perfectly grammatical...

i never said it wasn't; i said it was a forced analogy.  *to me*, the fact
that she had to reverse the order of the words makes it stick out like a
sore thumb.  just my opinion.

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>from:    jen meklenburg <jenmek@hotmail.com>
>
>happy national coming out day everyone !!!!
>
>i came out to my boss...who did you come out to?

my whole damn neighborhood, and hundreds of people on their way to the
metro or rt. 66... tori and i are flying a rainbow flag from our new house!

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 12:46:05 -0700
reply-to:     jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
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deb,

>> i never said it wasn't; i said it was a forced analogy.  *to me*,
the fact that she had to reverse the order of the words makes it stick
out like a sore thumb.  just my opinion.<<

i'm new to the list as of today so if i am beating a dead horse just
ignore me :)

i thought maybe emily might be referring the "collar" itself (criminal
white collar) as in the priests etc that also wear collars... as
opposed to the "criminal" which would require the other syntax (white
collar criminal).  just my 2 cents.

jean


--- deb <indigo@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >from:    lisa r <lisa071573@aol.com>
> >
> >launch has a track listing of
> >cons and the sister reprise and philosophy of loss are both listed
> as hidden
> >tracks...
>
> no need to go to launch... it's right on the ig's site
> <http://www.indigogirls.com>.
>
> >also, i figured i'd give my 2 sense on the whole emily grammar thing
> - since
> >i majored in english...there is such a thing called poetic
> license...
>
> no one's arguing that, including this fellow english major.  my
> argument is
> whether the poetic license taken is so intrusive as to question its
> merit.
> (there are other cases where poetic license must be questioned as
> well --
> otherwise, all writing can be dubbed acceptable because of poetic
> license.)
>
> >i personally love the "criminal white collar"
> >bit...it's obviously done intentionally because emily is trying to
> say that
> >corporations (white-collar criminals) suck but so do the corporate
> churches
> >that exist only to spread hatred....hence, there's more than one
> kind of
> >criminal (an adjective) white (an adjective) collar..
>
> how many ways can i say "i *know* what she's trying to emphasize..."?
>
> >perfectly grammatical...
>
> i never said it wasn't; i said it was a forced analogy.  *to me*, the
> fact
> that she had to reverse the order of the words makes it stick out
> like a
> sore thumb.  just my opinion.
>
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i came out to my family - how's that one for you???  (actually i did it a
month ago but it was close enough and traumatic enough that i think it
counts!)
happy, happy, all!

~~jennifer
************
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hey all--
so the s.f. concert is not happening on the 8th of nov. b/c they just signed
a contract with my school to be here in eureka, ca that day.  so good news
for all us here at hsu and the arcata/eureka area :)  but, my question is:
does anyone know how to get a hold of russell carter or whoever is in charge
of booking them b/c my school's womyn's center is sponsoring a womyn's music
fest for the school that same week that they are going to be here, and i
want to take a shot at getting them to stop by.  i know it's a long shot,
but them just being here is a long shot in itself, and i though i'd try to
keep it going.  so if you know how to do this, will you let me know?
please, please :)

thanks so much,
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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 13:33:58 pdt
reply-to:     diane wong <arle@hotmail.com>
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hey company of strangers,

here's my report of the girls on the rosie o'donnell show today.

rosie pressed a button and began singing, "closer i am to fine--", along
with a snippet of the girls on tape just before she introduced julie
andrews.

then before the commercial break, you hear amy ray singing, "when the weeds
go down you can see up close in the dead of the winter time but when the
summer comes everything's in bloom and you wouldn't know it's there..."
[shame on you video clip--from the same one they showed on vh-1's top 100
greatest women of rock 'n' roll] (i've never seen the soy video.)

the indigo girls sing in the last 10 to 15 minutes in the show, and rosie
introduces them: "i like their songs and politics; the indigo girls have a
new album out called 'come on now social', please welcome the indigo girls."

and then ig&co. start "peace tonight".  emily is wearing her ny black outfit
with a sparkly black necklace (and tons of foundation, but nice mascara);
and amy is wearing her flowery type shirt and blue jeans.  you catch nice
smiles from both miss amy and miss emily during the performance, as well as
brief glimpses of their band (except you only see the cellist's hair from
the side).  both a&e backed up from the mics during the instrumental part,
and amy was dancing a little.

in one part, amy's voice goes into her soprano to harmonize with emily, and
i had to rewind the tape and say, "was that really amy or one of the
background vocals?"

rosie thanks the indigo girls for coming, "amy and emily" and mentions that
they will be playing at the beacon theater.  emily and amy look so modest up
there after the song.

they perform so well live.  i would have loved to see/hear them play "go" on
t.v.  maybe on "the view"? heh--it will probably be pt again.

diane

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 16:46:22 -0400
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hey all...

i was just wondering if anyone had guitar tab for any new songs besides =
"go" and "gone again" (and thanks to whoever posted "sister"--haven't =
tried it yet though)...

if so, i'd be very thankful if you could forward them to me (privately?)

thanks!!!

kim

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i am already out to my boss--but when i told him it was national coming
out day (after reading jen's post) he said, "and all this time i thought
it was just columbus day...no wonder i didn't get any mail today!"

made me laugh out loud,  which is always a good thing, right?

*grin*

jennifer
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has anyone been watching the news regarding the matthew shepard murder trial?
this morning several of matthew's friends arrived dressed up as angels with
these huge wings, blocking the anti-gay protesters (fred phelps?) from
view.... which i thought was really an incredible idea.

peace,
  rick

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yo ~
  i think emily's either saying "i am just a farmer with a milk cow and a
mess" as originally reported, or "i am just a poor girl with a milk cow and a
mess."  i turned up the volume *real loud* and listened closely, totally
focused.
~ elizabeth

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hey, i think amy was wearing the same pants she wore in
nashville...definitely not jeans.  my first thought is that they are leather,
but then i have to wonder if she'd wear leather...so does anyone know for
sure?  are they leather or vinyl?  (shudder) i just can't deal with the idea
of vinyl pants. i guess that means i shouldn't try to wear them.  right, like
i would anyway.... (anyone who met me in nashville knows what i mean)
freida

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i'm disappointed that rosie didn't take the time to chat w/a&e today.  she
usually does.  when she had melissa on a short time ago, she was basically
the headliner that day.  even though rosie and melissa met years ago when
they were both starting out,  it's hard to believe that they couldn't have
scheduled a few minutes of time for ig to sit and talk.
if anyone feels the same, don't hesitate to post a message to rosie and her
staff.
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did anyone else notice amy singing along to emily's part away from the mic?
very cute.  hee hee.
  also... was that distortion on emily's guitar?  this is getting weird...
i was annoyed rosie like forgot about them, barely mentioned them, and then
didn't talk to them.  but here's my theory.  (brace yourselves)
  the publicity behind ig is like the al gore campaign.  al gore's issue is
they went in there assuming he was the democratic nominee.  but now bill
bradley's at best in a statistical dead heat with him.  i think the epic
folks' (or whoever is in charge of all this) attitude with cons has been,
"ah, they debuted at number 7 last time and their fans are obsessed and nuts
-- no need for big hype."  but they're missing the point, that not everyone
who bought sots was a diehard nut.  whoever was behind schedualing ig on
rosie when julie andrews was going to be on was a total dork for doing so.
because you don't have to watch rosie a lot to know she's freakin' nuts for
julie andrews and the girls weren't going to get an ounce extra of air time.
yo.
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i'm disappointed that rosie didn't take the time to chat w/a&e today.  she
usually does.  when she had melissa on a short time ago, she was basically
the headliner that day.  even though rosie and melissa met years ago when
they were both starting out,  it's hard to believe that they couldn't have
scheduled a few minutes of time for ig to sit and talk.
if anyone feels the same, don't hesitate to post a message to rosie and her
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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 22:41:40 +0100
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hey,

ok, i've been listening and trying to make sense of what emily's singing in
this part, and i think it is:

i wish i was a mother with a baby at my breast
(but) i am just a father with the milk of emptiness.

this seems to make more sense than the farmer and milk cow theories, imo.
i'm sure it relates to the verse, but i can't quite figure it out yet.  is
it about the burden and guilt a drink driver would feel about "the car that
lost control"?  as in the father that is left behind, without his family and
so empty??

besides, anyone know what is meant by "i got ten hours to natchez and
another ten home".  is natchez a real place?

that's all for now folks!

goodnight,

claudine

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 14:42:11 -0700
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i havent watched my tape yet today, but with this post i am going to
have my own version of national coming out day..

while it's a bummer that ig didnt get to talk to rosie, it's
a show with julie andrews too!  woo hoo!  and i know i am not the
only lesbian who has had a crush on miss andrews for many years now.
it's a slice of heaven to have julie and ig on the same program..
to me, anyway.

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 14:55:46 -0700
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sabrina,

>>many dead horses are beaten continuously on this list!! :-)<<

oh dear, those poor things... like they weren't already dead to start
with... we gotta pound on them just to drive the point home...

thanks for making me feel better about being a newbie ;)

jean

--- "sabrina d. parker" <parkers@civerolo.com> wrote:
> many dead horses are beaten continuously on this list!! :-)
>
> -----original message-----
> from: jean moses [mailto:sneakyjean@yahoo.com]
> sent: monday, october 11, 1999 1:46 pm
> to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject: re: grammar
>
>
> deb,
>
> >> i never said it wasn't; i said it was a forced analogy.  *to me*,
> the fact that she had to reverse the order of the words makes it
> stick
> out like a sore thumb.  just my opinion.<<
>
> i'm new to the list as of today so if i am beating a dead horse just
> ignore me :)
>
> i thought maybe emily might be referring the "collar" itself
> (criminal
> white collar) as in the priests etc that also wear collars... as
> opposed to the "criminal" which would require the other syntax (white
> collar criminal).  just my 2 cents.
>
> jean
>
>
>
>
> --- deb <indigo@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > >from:    lisa r <lisa071573@aol.com>
> > >
> > >launch has a track listing of
> > >cons and the sister reprise and philosophy of loss are both listed
> > as hidden
> > >tracks...
> >
> > no need to go to launch... it's right on the ig's site
> > <http://www.indigogirls.com>.
> >
> > >also, i figured i'd give my 2 sense on the whole emily grammar
> thing
> > - since
> > >i majored in english...there is such a thing called poetic
> > license...
> >
> > no one's arguing that, including this fellow english major.  my
> > argument is
> > whether the poetic license taken is so intrusive as to question its
> > merit.
> > (there are other cases where poetic license must be questioned as
> > well --
> > otherwise, all writing can be dubbed acceptable because of poetic
> > license.)
> >
> > >i personally love the "criminal white collar"
> > >bit...it's obviously done intentionally because emily is trying to
> > say that
> > >corporations (white-collar criminals) suck but so do the corporate
> > churches
> > >that exist only to spread hatred....hence, there's more than one
> > kind of
> > >criminal (an adjective) white (an adjective) collar..
> >
> > how many ways can i say "i *know* what she's trying to
> emphasize..."?
> >
> > >perfectly grammatical...
> >
> > i never said it wasn't; i said it was a forced analogy.  *to me*,
> the
> > fact
> > that she had to reverse the order of the words makes it stick out
> > like a
> > sore thumb.  just my opinion.
> >
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yeah, natchez is a real place kind of in the tennessee/mississippi area - i
can't remember quite which - it may overlap.  there's the natchez parkway
which is a scenic parkway like the blue ridge parkway.  i think!  it's been
years since i lived close to that area, and i don't quite remember.  but
that's what i'm really assuming.  i think there is a city called natchez, too
- but i'm not quite sure about that.  :)

ok, so maybe i wasn't so informative after all!  :)

peace!
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hey y'all,

after listening to cons this weekend (which i love, btw :) ), i was
wondering whether, when amy sings about kings cross in gone again, if
she's talking about london? it sounds a lot like it...

also, i'm going to mary chapin carpenter in concert next month, and i
read in the advocate that catie curtis is going to be the support act.
i've heard of catie before, but does anyone have more info about her?

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 15:21:23 -0700
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amanda,

>>yeah, natchez is a real place kind of in the tennessee/mississippi
area<<

i kinda knew that... but how about kakadu?  anyone know where the heck
kakadu is?  (the mention of melbourne made me think australia but...?)

thanks!

jean
the ignorant yankee gone californian ;)


--- abbett@aol.com wrote:
> yeah, natchez is a real place kind of in the tennessee/mississippi
> area - i
> can't remember quite which - it may overlap.  there's the natchez
> parkway
> which is a scenic parkway like the blue ridge parkway.  i think!
> it's been
> years since i lived close to that area, and i don't quite remember.
> but
> that's what i'm really assuming.  i think there is a city called
> natchez, too
> - but i'm not quite sure about that.  :)
>
> ok, so maybe i wasn't so informative after all!  :)
>
> peace!
> amanda
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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 10:25:42 +1200
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yep,

kakadu is a national park somewhere near melbourne methinks...

and kings cross is the redlight area of sydney...

it's all been mentioned here b4...

amy wrote gone again while they were touring australia in '98... specifically after the melbourne shows and b4 the sydney shows... she met the junkie girl in sydney kings cross...


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well, since no one else has commented yet....
  i, for one, enjoyed the dartmouth show *quite* a bit.  my gf (mimsy) and i
had to take the greyhound up, and we got there about 12:30-ish to stake out a
place in line.  turns out we could have turned up hours later and gotten the
same spot.  but it was more fun to be exhausted.  anyway...
  it was sort of odd to put not just faces but *people* with names from the
list and the baigls list.  i never go to list meets, and so after years of
being on both with only the occassional brush with other listees, it was just
strange.  because it's like this little cyber community, but then it turned
into a real club of sorts... anyhow, it was odd.  and then an old friend of
mine camp who was in hanover for the day popped in to say hi and that was
mildly disorienting, because my camp was right outside of hanover and i
associate it all with camp and so the list, school and camp became this huge
jumbled mess.  *sigh*  plus, i then ran into this girl i went to sunday
school with, who acted like she didn't know me except while asking me
questions that reveiled she knew who i was.  so the church got dragged into
it all....
  anyhow, you don't care about this, so i'll move on to the show.
  we booked it into the arena when they let us in (the dude collecting the
tickets gave me back the wrong part of my ticket stub.  what was up with
that?), and mimsy and i got pretty much front and center.
  the butchies were awesome.  my gf wasn't too thrilled with them, but
goodness!  and their drummer abosolute kicked ass!  good drummers are hard to
find, but wow....  i found one!
  then the girls performed...
  fashion report:
  amy was wearing a red fire department jacket and then a red t-shirt (star
trek -- hee hee).  emily was wearing like a black (?) button down shirt over
a white t-shirt, and then her blue camoflo...camaflo... whatever... pants.
oh, amy was wearing pants too, just can't remember what they looked like.
  set list:
  this is sketchy after the third song, and has holes and is in the wrong
order. all i know is, the following songs were all performed.
  go
  gotm
  chickenman (i almost died)
  trouble
  peace tonight
  gone again (part of the encore)
  ozilline
  shame on you
  compromise
  andy
  faye tucker
  tried to be true
  closer to fine (middle of the set)
  galileo (last song)
  johnny rotten
  love will come to you
  ghost (was this part of the encore?)
  power of two
  shed your skin
  eck, what else?  i know there was more...
i had been a tad concerned about there being no chairs set up at this thing.
when i saw hole in may, when we were all crowded around the stage it was
absolutely terrible.  i almost lost a shoe, i swear my leg and arm were each
almost broken... it was bad.  but ig fans are much more considerate.  i had
enough personal space through the entire show.  and when i ran off to the
bathroom i had no trouble getting back to space in the front.  also, this
chick from the darty yearbook stood next to me taking pictures, and was
couldn't get over how polite we all were, and how she can never get up to the
front ("at football games, they never even let me on the track").
  i can't comment on the crowd because it was behind me.
  except for this group of girls from the plymouth state rugby team, who
tossed a team jacket on stage and kept shouting, "hold it up!  look at it!
hold it up!"  and then when some of their friends got on stage to sing "show
them the jacket!!"  finally, emily held it up and looked at them and said,
"thank you!"  like, "now shut up!"  heh.
  amy was having issues with her electric guitar (turned out she'd hit the
off switch accidently), so we got a big question and answer period.  i
thought to ask to play guitar with them on closer to fine, but too late....
but this group of girls asked if the could sing with them at some point, and
they were like, "sure."  ha.
  at one point emily said, "don't go posting that on the internet." but i
can't remember in refrence to what.  anyone?
  highlights included...
  this show was absolutely amazing if only because they played chickenman.
oh my.  i fell to my knees.  that song means so much to me.  to be able to
stand so close to them as they performed it... oh god... i had to stare up at
them through the grid of the police barrier set up in front of me for part of
it... chickenman is my personal anthem, and i felt such an intense connection
to amy while she was singing it, it was overwhelming.  in fact, the feeling i
had inside of me at that point is similar to how i imagine she felt when she
met chickenman.  ah.
  i hadn't planned to buy any merchandise... but i need a new hat, so i
bought one.  and they never sell t-shirts in my size (medium), so i felt i
*had* to buy one.  but why were the shirts so expensive?  plus, what the hell
does my hat mean?  my father said he thinks the flag is that of an nw old
railroad (i've repressed the name) which had the motto "follow the rail" in
all its ads, posted under this flag.  the flag is a red rectangle with a
black rectangle in the middle, the black one outlined in white.  maybe
someone else has a suggestion.  i'd like to know what i'm advertising.
  anyhow, i stayed after a bit to get a pick.  the security dude (all
students) who stood infront of us the whole show promised to get me one, but
then another guy tossed "the last one" to someone else, and when i declined
to buy his security shirt from him, my guy lost interest in finding me one.
but then sulli found one and tossed it in my direction (tho not to me), but
it landed on the other side of the barrier.  well, with the help of a great
rush of adreniline (sp?) i semi-flipped over the barrier (if only you knew
me, you'd realize the significance of that) and grabbed the pick, which had
landed much closer to other people who were grabbing for it.  =)
  messing with that pick on the way out, i thought about the first show i
went to, when i got a pick from emily... it was my 15th b-day, and that whole
year had sucked so much.  when emily tossed me that pick... it meant so much
to me, it's indescribable.  and here i am, only two and half years later but
so much older, so much happier.... so much has changed since then.  i'm over
twenty lighter, i've been diagnosed with adhd and am now excelling in school,
i'm out to my family, i've been dating... things that seemed so impossible
are now all i know.  my life has pulled together.  everything's on track.  so
i look at this pick and it represents all of that.
  anyhow, i should get going on my five page paper due tomorrow on a book i
didn't read.  (eh, i swear i've never done this before!)
~ elizabeth
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the only station i know that play peace tonight is xrt. they play it pretty
regularly.

dottie

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 18:31:16 edt
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hello to all in the land of indigo-

i too was curious about natchez so i went to the index of my trusty us atlas
and
found there to be 3 states with natchez, alabama, mississippi and louisiana.
the natchez that is most poplulated is the one in alabama, with about 20.000
people, one of the others has about 500 people and the other under 5000, but
i
can't remember which.

as for the layered lyrics emily sings in sister i have come up with:

i wish i was a mother with a baby at my breast (but)
i am just a poor girl with the milk of emptiness (or lonliness)

seemed to make sense to me since amy is singing about a woman in a 'family
way'
and some kind of car accient.

take care and peace!

-debigogrl

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 15:33:27 -0700
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subject:      how do you solve a problem like maria? (was re: rosie today)
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woo hoo indeed!
julie andrews can be my governess any day!

;)

bon

on mon, 11 oct 1999, amy j. putnam wrote:

> while it's a bummer that ig didnt get to talk to rosie, it's
> a show with julie andrews too!  woo hoo!  and i know i am not the
> only lesbian who has had a crush on miss andrews for many years now.
> it's a slice of heaven to have julie and ig on the same program..
> to me, anyway.

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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 10:36:06 +1200
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>hell, i'm seeing people say they hated better than chocolate and my friend
>(not on here) emailed me recently and said she thought it ws fabulous...it
>all depends i suppose...
>
there's a bit of a sore point between a transgendered female (male?) and an encounter with a nasty albeit butch lesbian that would definately have ruffled a few feathers amongst the lesbian community... maybe thats the source of their prejudice...

it's a cute flick, with some very funny bits, some cute actresses and a big box of dildo's...

yah'll should see it, if'n you can...:l


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  claudine wrote:
  <besides, anyone know what is meant by "i got ten hours to natchez and
       another ten home".  is natchez a real place?>

     natchez, mississippi is a city in the south western part of mississippi.
yes, the natchez trace parkway is a scenic two-lane highway between natchez,
mississippi and nashville, tenn. it also extends further south past natchez
which if you start in tenn. and head to the southern most part you'll see the
rock-studded hills of tenn.(beautiful) , alabama's cotton fields (loved
them), and louisiana's mighty moss-draped trees (magnificent)! it is quite a
nice road trip. if you love nature's wonders and have the time to travel it's
a must.

-di   ( who has 2 years left to complete her promise to herself of traveling
through all
         50 states before she's 30)  25 down 25 to go!

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i came out to my whole college campus, lol!  we did an "opening
ceremony" for national coming out week in the middle of the student
center, and a couple of my friends and i sang some songs and played
guitar (we did "iowa" (dar williams- who i am seeing this sunday at
mit!!), "strange fire", "thin line", "come to my window" among others),
and we handed out little coming out week schedules of events on campus
and stuff.  it was great!  we were gay and happy! :o

ruth

jennifer k. parker wrote:
>
> i am already out to my boss--but when i told him it was national coming
> out day (after reading jen's post) he said, "and all this time i thought
> it was just columbus day...no wonder i didn't get any mail today!"
>
> made me laugh out loud,  which is always a good thing, right?
>
> *grin*
>
> jennifer
> ----------------------------------
> jen mek wrote:
>
> <happy national coming out day everyone !!!!
>
> <i came out to my boss...who did you come out to?
>
> <peace and pride,
> <- jen mek
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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 18:38:09 -0400
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hurricane flag flapping in a bad storm?  i think it's a hurricane warning
flag.

steph


elizabeth wrote:

> plus, what the hell does my hat mean?  my father said he thinks the flag
> is that of an nw old railroad (i've repressed the name) which had the
> motto "follow the rail" in all its ads, posted under this flag.  the flag
> is a red rectangle with a black rectangle in the middle, the black one
> outlined in white.  maybe someone else has a suggestion.  i'd like to
> know what i'm advertising.

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i swear to god, emily's saying...
  "i wish i was a mother with a baby at my breast
   but i am just a farmer with a milk cow and a mess"
if you turn it up really really loud and listen very very carefully, it is
very clear that emily is singing "a milk cow and a mess."  at lower volumes,
it sounds very much like "the milk of emptiness" -- you need to pump it up
and stick your ear up to the speaker.  i swear i just blew my good ear out.
dear me.  and after listening to it over and over with the treble way up, i'm
absolutely convinced she's saying "farmer" and not something else.  the milk
cow thing makes sense, too!  i think.  but no time for analyzing that now.  i
have to write a paper!  and apply to college!  and save the world!  and do
laundry!
  ha!
~ elizabeth

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 15:40:28 -0700
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jen meklenburg wrote:
>
>happy national coming out day everyone !!!!
>
>i came out to my boss...who did you come out to?

my entire university! the lgbta here took out a full-page add in he
school paper, which will be run all this week, with two lists: the
outlist for lgbt people, and another one for allies.  i also made a
date: wed, 20 oct 1999 16:16:06 +0000
from: "l-soft list server at netspace.org (1.8d)" <listserv@netspace.org>
subject:      file: "indigo-girls log9910b"
to: underdog@earthlink.net

lagre pink triangle and taped it on my window (with another piece of
paper that says "national coming out day!"... and if i have time later i
may make a rainbow flag like piece of paper to put in my window.  since
i was not out to my residents before (i'm an ra), and my window faces a
very busy lawn that they all like to congregate on, and the busiest
intersection on campus, i'm sure i'm educating some people.

i was wondering, for those of you who are already out to all/most of the
people in your life, how did you come out to old friends and your
parents.  i want to come out to my friends (most people who have met me
since this summer know, but not many from before that), who i'm pretty
sure will be positive and supportive, i just don't know how best to do
it without making things really awkward. i'm not ready yet to come out
to my parents, who probably won't be very supportive (esp. my
incredibly  homophobic father), but i also want advice on that one for
whenever i *do* feel ready.  feel free to answer me privately.

thanks,
shannon

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 19:00:19 -0700
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just to clear up any questions........
the pants are pale blue and plastic....not leather, not vinyl.....
cheri

flg940bigr@aol.com wrote:

> hey, i think amy was wearing the same pants she wore in
> nashville...definitely not jeans.  my first thought is that they are leather,
> but then i have to wonder if she'd wear leather...so does anyone know for
> sure?  are they leather or vinyl?

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subject:      re: rosie today

gotta say i think it's impressively dopey of the good
people at rosie's show not to set it up so everybody
could hang out and talk. after all ms. andrews did play
the goddess? god? whatever... of gender benders
victor/victoria with great charm (if you haven't seen it
go rent that puppy right away. she won't be just sweet
maria anymore...)

they blew their chance to do a very smart, funny show,
i'm afraid. how come i wasn't consulted?

kc
> i havent watched my tape yet today, but with this post i am going to
> have my own version of national coming out day..
>
> while it's a bummer that ig didnt get to talk to rosie, it's
> a show with julie andrews too!  woo hoo!  and i know i am not the
> only lesbian who has had a crush on miss andrews for many years now.
> it's a slice of heaven to have julie and ig on the same program..
> to me, anyway.
>
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hey folks,

this is from the newsgroup...

-sherlyn

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date: 11 oct 1999 21:55:26 gmt

>from "new york post," 10/11/99 ~

"indigo girls show thier true colors"
by kevin raub

it's been 10 years since the indigo girls first hit it big with "closer to
fine," the breakout hit from their 1989 self-titled epic records debut.

but anyone who might suggest that the girls - amy ray and emily saliers -
spent
the decade merely re-creating one acoustic folk ditty after another will
get an
earful from ray.

"i think people decided what we sounded like because of our first song, and
they've never heard anything since," says ray, sounding off from a car as she
hustled along interstate 75, just south of chattanooga, tenn.

"so when they talk about us, they talk about us in a certain way musically,
which we haven't been in five years. i get frustrated. people put us in a
certain category and they don't even know what we do anymore."

the indigo girls, who tonight kick off a three-night stand at the beacon
theater, also get pigeon-holed because of their sex, ray says. "i don't think
male artists have the same problem, but with women - it's like, whatever
you do
first establishes your identity and it's hard to change it.

"joni mitchell is a good example. she went through constantly experimenting
and
people had issues with that a lot of the time. but then someone like neil
young
does it, and it's cool." the girls explore a multitude of musical genres and
styles on their just-released seventh album, "come on now social."

the album, the duo's most diverse to date, explores full-on punk
("compromise"), back-country bluegrass ("ozilline"), stadium-size rock and
roll
("go"), irish-infused jigs and middle-eastern-flavored wailing ("faye
tucker"),
and bouncy new orleans-inspired pop ("peace tonight").

not only does the album seem like a musical pilgrimage around the world, but
the credits read like a who's-who list of female rock.

the girls received help from nearly everyone in the lilith fair contingent,
including sheryl crow, joan osborne, me'shell ndegeocello and luscious jackson
drummer kate shellenbach. not surprisingly, the album packs an outspoken
political punch. the epic "faye tucker," the album's longest tune, is inspired
by the case of karla faye tucker, the first woman to be executed in a texas
electric chair since the civil war.

ray, a strong anti-capital-punishment advocate, found the circumstances
surrounding faye tucker's death in 1998 more than a little hypocritical.

"i thought it was weird that the christian right, moral majority-esque people
took up her case beacuse she was reborn. they worked so hard to try and save
her from the death penalty, when normally it wouldn't matter to them."

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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 17:36:45 +0000
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uh oh, raise your hand if you remember the "what are amy's pants made of?"
debate from the sots tour. i made the mistake of trying to define "vegetarian"
for folks during that debate and boy did i get a butt kicking.
as far as rosie goes, as a former catholic school girl i'd like to say that
those baseball lovin' nuns were almost as fun to watch as amy and emily were.
oh my goodness do i love nuns.
-sam (no, i don't love nuns *that* way, geez)

cheri carter wrote:
>
> just to clear up any questions........
> the pants are pale blue and plastic....not leather, not vinyl.....
> cheri
>
> flg940bigr@aol.com wrote:
>
> > hey, i think amy was wearing the same pants she wore in
> > nashville...definitely not jeans.  my first thought is that they are leather,
> > but then i have to wonder if she'd wear leather...so does anyone know for
> > sure?  are they leather or vinyl??

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i think that flag would be the hurricane flag.  but i'm not sure coz i
haven't seen the hat yet.

nan

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> from: indigo girls mailing list [mailto:indigo-girls@netspace.org]on
> behalf of e. moranian bolles
> sent: monday, october 11, 1999 6:27 pm
> to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject: dartmouth -- a personal reaction and a review, together
>
>
> well, since no one else has commented yet....
>   i, for one, enjoyed the dartmouth show *quite* a bit.  my gf
> (mimsy) and i
> had to take the greyhound up, and we got there about 12:30-ish to
> stake out a
> place in line.  turns out we could have turned up hours later and
> gotten the
> same spot.  but it was more fun to be exhausted.  anyway...
>   it was sort of odd to put not just faces but *people* with
> names from the
> list and the baigls list.  i never go to list meets, and so after years of
> being on both with only the occassional brush with other listees,
> it was just
> strange.  because it's like this little cyber community, but then
> it turned
> into a real club of sorts... anyhow, it was odd.  and then an old
> friend of
> mine camp who was in hanover for the day popped in to say hi and that was
> mildly disorienting, because my camp was right outside of hanover and i
> associate it all with camp and so the list, school and camp
> became this huge
> jumbled mess.  *sigh*  plus, i then ran into this girl i went to sunday
> school with, who acted like she didn't know me except while asking me
> questions that reveiled she knew who i was.  so the church got
> dragged into
> it all....
>   anyhow, you don't care about this, so i'll move on to the show.
>   we booked it into the arena when they let us in (the dude collecting the
> tickets gave me back the wrong part of my ticket stub.  what was up with
> that?), and mimsy and i got pretty much front and center.
>   the butchies were awesome.  my gf wasn't too thrilled with them, but
> goodness!  and their drummer abosolute kicked ass!  good drummers
> are hard to
> find, but wow....  i found one!
>   then the girls performed...
>   fashion report:
>   amy was wearing a red fire department jacket and then a red
> t-shirt (star
> trek -- hee hee).  emily was wearing like a black (?) button down
> shirt over
> a white t-shirt, and then her blue camoflo...camaflo... whatever... pants.
> oh, amy was wearing pants too, just can't remember what they looked like.
>   set list:
>   this is sketchy after the third song, and has holes and is in the wrong
> order. all i know is, the following songs were all performed.
>   go
>   gotm
>   chickenman (i almost died)
>   trouble
>   peace tonight
>   gone again (part of the encore)
>   ozilline
>   shame on you
>   compromise
>   andy
>   faye tucker
>   tried to be true
>   closer to fine (middle of the set)
>   galileo (last song)
>   johnny rotten
>   love will come to you
>   ghost (was this part of the encore?)
>   power of two
>   shed your skin
>   eck, what else?  i know there was more...
> i had been a tad concerned about there being no chairs set up at
> this thing.
> when i saw hole in may, when we were all crowded around the stage it was
> absolutely terrible.  i almost lost a shoe, i swear my leg and
> arm were each
> almost broken... it was bad.  but ig fans are much more
> considerate.  i had
> enough personal space through the entire show.  and when i ran off to the
> bathroom i had no trouble getting back to space in the front.  also, this
> chick from the darty yearbook stood next to me taking pictures, and was
> couldn't get over how polite we all were, and how she can never
> get up to the
> front ("at football games, they never even let me on the track").
>   i can't comment on the crowd because it was behind me.
>   except for this group of girls from the plymouth state rugby team, who
> tossed a team jacket on stage and kept shouting, "hold it up!  look at it!
> hold it up!"  and then when some of their friends got on stage to
> sing "show
> them the jacket!!"  finally, emily held it up and looked at them and said,
> "thank you!"  like, "now shut up!"  heh.
>   amy was having issues with her electric guitar (turned out she'd hit the
> off switch accidently), so we got a big question and answer period.  i
> thought to ask to play guitar with them on closer to fine, but
> too late....
> but this group of girls asked if the could sing with them at some
> point, and
> they were like, "sure."  ha.
>   at one point emily said, "don't go posting that on the internet." but i
> can't remember in refrence to what.  anyone?
>   highlights included...
>   this show was absolutely amazing if only because they played chickenman.
> oh my.  i fell to my knees.  that song means so much to me.  to be able to
> stand so close to them as they performed it... oh god... i had to
> stare up at
> them through the grid of the police barrier set up in front of me
> for part of
> it... chickenman is my personal anthem, and i felt such an
> intense connection
> to amy while she was singing it, it was overwhelming.  in fact,
> the feeling i
> had inside of me at that point is similar to how i imagine she
> felt when she
> met chickenman.  ah.
>   i hadn't planned to buy any merchandise... but i need a new hat, so i
> bought one.  and they never sell t-shirts in my size (medium), so i felt i
> *had* to buy one.  but why were the shirts so expensive?  plus,
> what the hell
> does my hat mean?  my father said he thinks the flag is that of an nw old
> railroad (i've repressed the name) which had the motto "follow
> the rail" in
> all its ads, posted under this flag.  the flag is a red rectangle with a
> black rectangle in the middle, the black one outlined in white.  maybe
> someone else has a suggestion.  i'd like to know what i'm advertising.
>   anyhow, i stayed after a bit to get a pick.  the security dude (all
> students) who stood infront of us the whole show promised to get
> me one, but
> then another guy tossed "the last one" to someone else, and when
> i declined
> to buy his security shirt from him, my guy lost interest in
> finding me one.
> but then sulli found one and tossed it in my direction (tho not
> to me), but
> it landed on the other side of the barrier.  well, with the help
> of a great
> rush of adreniline (sp?) i semi-flipped over the barrier (if only you knew
> me, you'd realize the significance of that) and grabbed the pick,
> which had
> landed much closer to other people who were grabbing for it.  =)
>   messing with that pick on the way out, i thought about the first show i
> went to, when i got a pick from emily... it was my 15th b-day,
> and that whole
> year had sucked so much.  when emily tossed me that pick... it
> meant so much
> to me, it's indescribable.  and here i am, only two and half
> years later but
> so much older, so much happier.... so much has changed since
> then.  i'm over
> twenty lighter, i've been diagnosed with adhd and am now
> excelling in school,
> i'm out to my family, i've been dating... things that seemed so impossible
> are now all i know.  my life has pulled together.  everything's
> on track.  so
> i look at this pick and it represents all of that.
>   anyhow, i should get going on my five page paper due tomorrow
> on a book i
> didn't read.  (eh, i swear i've never done this before!)
> ~ elizabeth
> ps: my apologies to the irritable digest folk who don't like to scroll
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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 09:53:44 +0900
reply-to:     "karen, the biggest indigo girls bitch of japan"
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well, coming out day came and went in japan.

of course, no one celebrated.  (cod also corresponded with health, fitness, and sports day, which everyone celebrated).  but just a cute tidbit.  i have a vocab/kanji test today.  one of our words is hokori, meaning pride!!!!!!!!! (though i already knew that word)

i just thought it was funny how it (though unintentionally) coincided with coming out day!

:-) karen

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i still have 2 tickets for the 11/4 show at the wiltern in los angeles that
i can't use.   they're ochestra row t.  face value is $30 each, but i'm
open to any offers.  email me if you're interested.

thanks,
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on october 24th i will be doing, "making strides against breast cancer," a
walk to benefit the american cancer society.  i know this is kind of a weird
thing to ask on a mailing list, but if anyone would like to make a donor
pledge it would be greaty appreciated.

if you would like to make a donation, please make a check payable to the
american cancer society and send it to me
liz hayes
p.o. box 9055
cincinnati, oh 45209
or email me if you have any questions.

thanks a ton,
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date:         mon, 11 oct 1999 21:16:36 -0400
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>from:    "(rena shear)" <rgcs1123@aol.com>
>
>i'm disappointed that rosie didn't take the time to chat w/a&e today.  she
>usually does.  when she had melissa on a short time ago, she was basically
>the headliner that day.

yes, and as i recall, the last time ig were on her show that chatted for a
short while.  maybe either rosie and/or ig wouldn't have felt comfortable
chatting on ncod. :-)

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>from:    lyndsay agans <eccemus@hotmail.com>
>subject: indigo girls dc show! yay!
>
>this was actually the va show...but who's checking? so it was awesome.
>awesome. highlights were jsut about every damn song. emily even played soon
>be to nothin which is quickly becoming my new fav.

it was a good show, but i was a bit disappointed.  the songs did not sound
dramatically different from the studio versions, and there were no
interesting surprises like  "johnny rotten" or "don't fear the reaper."  i
managed to set the levels on my md recorder just fine, but my mic was
pretty overwhelmed, it was *loud* and i was up close.  and since the show
wasn't that inspiring i don't expect to master it until after i get around
to recent catie curtis and shawn colvin shows.

>if it weren't for the
>damn anal-retentive event staff, grumble grumble...

i appreciated them for keeping rude people from running down the aisle to
stand (or worse, dance wildly) in front of me.  that's what i feared the
whole patriot center crowd would be like, but i was pleasantly surprised to
find them in the minority.  most people participated *very*
enthusiastically from the very same seats they paid for, permitting me to
enjoy the show from the seat i paid for.

>but all is well. (and i'm gonna get killed for saying this, but my
>girlfriend did an awesome boot of the show that we listened to on the way
>home)

great, because i didn't enjoy the show enough to go through all it would
take to clean mine up, though i'd be willing to help you master or tree
yours if it is *excellent* quality (little to no crowd noise, consistent
levels, no songs missing, etc.).

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deb - sorry...i wasn't trying to piss you off...i just wanted to throw my
opinion in the ring..
i think someone else already mentioned this so if they did you can all yell
at me...there's a 30-second commercial for cons on vh1 with a number to call
to order the cd...i didn't call the number so i don't know what it is...maybe
just epic..but it shows some cute pics of the girls and go is in the
background...

oh i also thought rosie shafted the a&e today...i'll never understand how it
is that some guests get couch time and others don't...
~lisa
"i always feel i have to open my mouth and every time i do i offend someone
somewhere" ~ani

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now i'm pissed - i left the house all discombobulated cause i hadn't had a
lot of sleep, and so i called my roommate attempt to set my vcr (it's
on-screen progvramming...i don't know what the problem was) and he tried
and failed...i was okay cause i was like "well i have missed other things"
but to hear julie andrews was on there too...damn.  i mean i don't think i
had a crush on her, but i love the sound of music and i'm all about
someone who can sing...and she's right up there...*bummed out*  if someone
taped the show and can copy it and would be willing to set something up
with me...i'd be forever grateful...

now i'm gonna go send the birthdays since i didn't this morning due to
said discombobulation *heh*

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happy birthday y'all :)

october 14
kporcaro@usit.net

oct 15, (74)
wpatter@bmimetronics.com (winona patterson)

october 16
eccemis@hotmail.com (lyndsay)


note:  next week these will be sent out later in the day as well because i
am leaving to go to ohio on thursday (all right you indigohio people...if
you are in the columbus area - i will be there!!!) and i won't be back
till monday night - i need a vacation from my life, and while the original
intent of this vacation had to be modified...it's all good - cause i'm
about having some fun...so wish me happy flying and y'all will hear from
me again next week :)

love n' pride (happy coming out day!!!!!!!!!!!)]
audra
bge

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a friend of mine seems to think that it was first played on the australia tour of '98, maybe adelaide?... anyone have a clue?


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hey folks,

ig_boogy_babe@chickmail.com wrote:
>kakadu is a national park somewhere near melbourne methinks...

kakadu is actually in the northern territory, which is in
australia's central/north.  melbourne is in victoria, which
is in australia's south/southeast.  sydney is warm and windy
today and is in the state of new south wales, which is along
the southern part of australia's east coast (and is eight
hours' drive from melbourne, if you drive like i do)...

>and kings cross is the redlight area of sydney...

... and (i have to correct this because i feel like being
pedantic), *not* in sydney's cbd, although it is fairly close.

and, re "sister":
>a friend of mine seems to think that it was first played on the
>australia tour of '98, maybe adelaide?... anyone have a clue?

definitely not adelaide, sydney or melbourne, i can confirm
that... don't know about canberra, brisbane or perth though...
("nuevo senorita" was played in melbourne though, when amy
couldn't remember how "hey kind friend" went)...

blah blah... lunchtime...
sherlyn
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armydillo@mindspring.com writes:

<< i think that flag would be the hurricane flag.  but i'm not sure coz i
haven't seen the hat yet. >>

you're the second person to say this... because i'm both controlling and
procrastinating horribly (not much farther in my paper than i was when i
posted hours ago.  god.)  i did some research and discovered, after
exchanging e-mail with a flag expert, that it is most definitely a hurricane
flag.  so hurrah!
~ elizabeth

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hey y'all,
i'm with ryan on the "national i've already come out
to everyone day."
so this is me just now in the pitzer dining hall:
(standing up on a chair & shouting across the packed
room)
"hey! guess what day it is today!?"
my friend:
"i dunno, what day is it?"
"it's national coming out day!!!"
"oh, really?"
"yes! isn't that great?! it's a day set aside
every year for gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transexual,
& transgendered people to come out to their families,
friends, & complete strangers. so guess what,
everyone, i'm queer! i'm bisexual! this makes me feel
wonderful!!"
"hey, me too!"
(wild applause from the wierded-out but supportive
diners.)
then i repeated it on the other side of the dining
hall with a different friend, cuz not everyone heard.
that was for anyone who hasn't seen my door or heard
me perform.
so that's my ncod story. :)

also, 2 generous pple have offered their homes for my
honey to stay in as she drives across the country to
get to me, but there's still a huge 24-hour chunk of
tx & nm where she's gonna be sleeping on the side of
the road, singing sister over & over in her head...
so, if there are any kind friends along the line from
houston to phoenix (austin, san antonio, sonora, ft.
stockton, pecos, van horn, el paso, kerrville, las
cruches, deming, etc) who would be willing to give her
some carpeted floor or a couch for the evening on the
20th or 21st (approximately) we'd both be really
appreciative. the offer for massages & stories about
slam-dancing with amy are still open. :)

peace tonight,
arjuna
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i got one extra ticket. great seat section iii main floor row one! email me
if you are interested!
marie

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hi,
personally i don't mind that the ig music doesn't get played on the radio.
the way that i have discovered them (and probably many of you as well) a good
friend of mine made me a tape and told me that it would change my life.

boy was she right! since then i have done the same. so in a way we should
feel special that we are blessed to know the ig music.

in other words: if you have been exposed to ig music you were blessed from
someone who cares.

it's like a ticket to heaven or an e ride!

just my 2 cents!
peace,
marie

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hey y'all..does anyone know how to get to the ig show on 10/15 in asbury park nj..i can't find any info on it..
please email me privately if you can help
thanks
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>from: outlines3@aol.com
>date: mon, 11 oct 1999 15:04:30 edt
>subject: three events - three cd releases
>
>outline  events!!!!
>
[snip]
>
>sunday, nov. 7 - hoxies - 5-7 pm
>sony cd release party featuring music give aways of indigo girls, dixie

>chicks, fiona apple and macy gray
>come to hoxies restaurant and join us in the downstairs space for music,
>giveways,
>food and drinks.  live performances also by lynne mandarino and ripley
>caine...we'll also be playing new cuts from all the cds, giving away cds,
>posters and t-shirts.
>come with friends and eat dinner while you watch the event...hoxies has the
>best
>bbq in chicago.  hoxies is located at 1801 w. lawrence.  this is an all ages
>event (seeing it's in restaurant...over 21 folks can order alcohol - under
21
>can not!!!)  sponsored by outlines and sony.
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>if you have questions about any of these events, please email me.
>
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yeah, i figured out as soon as i saw the hat it was indeed a hurricane flag.
this would be from trouble..."hurrican flag flappin' in a bad storm..." just
thought i'd share that with y'all...


: )
lyndsay


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>date: mon, 11 oct 1999 22:38:49 edt
>
>armydillo@mindspring.com writes:
>
><< i think that flag would be the hurricane flag.  but i'm not sure coz i
>haven't seen the hat yet. >>
>
>you're the second person to say this... because i'm both controlling and
>procrastinating horribly (not much farther in my paper than i was when i
>posted hours ago.  god.)  i did some research and discovered, after
>exchanging e-mail with a flag expert, that it is most definitely a
>hurricane
>flag.  so hurrah!
>~ elizabeth
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so my friend lael has this mix tape, made by another friend.
there is no track listing, nor is this tape-maker on any good terms with all
parties contained herein.  so we're about to abandon all hopes of ever
knowing who is singing these songs.
but then i thought-- the ig list!  they'll know! they know everything!

prove it.  i'll give you the first verses of these mystery songs.  let me
know if anything rings a bell.

song #1:  loud punchy acoustic guitar, wailing woman.
lover had to leave me/ across the desert plain/ turned to me, his lady/ tell
me lover, when/ calling jesus please/ send his love to me

oh wind and rain they haunt me/ look to the north and pray/ send me please
his kisses/ send him home today/ begging jesus please/ send his love to me

left alone in desert/ this house becomes a hell/ this love becomes a tether/
this room becomes a cell/ mommy, daddy, please/ send him back to me

song #2:  almost sounds like pj harvey or kristen hersh.
the one line i remember:
she kisses harder than me/ i guess i'm not that hungry

song #3: almost sounds like what i recall joan armatrading sounding like.
speaking of love, you ask how much you should give, expect, and receive/
take what you could/ give what you must/ 'cause whatever's for us, for us

speaking of pride, you but why, what for, and what it should be/ do what you
will/ say what you must/ 'cause whatever's for us, for us

hmm.  chew on those.
i appreciate it,
jill

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subject:      re: catie curtis

catie curtis is a wonderful singer-songwriter from maine who has recorded
four beautiful cds: from years to hours (still available from
www.folkweb.com), truth fom lies, catie curtis, and the recently released a
crash course in roses (www.rykodisc.com).....catie has a voice that's clear
as crystal and an extremely engaging personality.  my personal favorites
among her song repertoire include minefields (from years to hours), troubled
mind, radical, dad's yard, soulfully, and what's the matter (with melissa
ferrick on backing vocals.....the catielist is another great email community
(with more than a few ig listers in residence).....

i listened to a dubbed cassette of cons on my car stereo for the first time
today.....i've always loved ig for road music, and cons is no
exception......

peace,
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>also, i'm going to mary chapin carpenter in concert next month, and i
>read in the advocate that catie curtis is going to be the support act.
>i've heard of catie before, but does anyone have more info about her?

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yeah, maybe it makes sense. i sort of brainwashed myself with sister this
evening for like 2 hours. it creeps me out in a good way like a nine inch
nails song. que bueno. oh, but my point, i'm starting to see a connection. so
imagine the farmer (i'm picturing a guy here probably, but pick the gender of
your choice) who's trying to compensate for lack of breast feeding
ability/opportunity with a cow's udder instead. it's just a big ol' mess. i
bet you all think i'm absolutely crazy now but oh well. i also have a theory
that a & e are just like hey we can sing whatever we want because it amuses us
and the fans will still love it and obsess over it forever and ever. hey, i'd
do something crazy like that if i could. but please wait until later to send
the men in the white coats for me. thanks.
-sam (totally lovin' the howling at the end of the song)

e. moranian bolles wrote:
>
> i swear to god, emily's saying...
>   "i wish i was a mother with a baby at my breast
>    but i am just a farmer with a milk cow and a mess"
> if you turn it up really really loud and listen very very carefully, it is
> very clear that emily is singing "a milk cow and a mess."  at lower volumes,
> it sounds very much like "the milk of emptiness" -- you need to pump it up
> and stick your ear up to the speaker.  i swear i just blew my good ear out.
> dear me.  and after listening to it over and over with the treble way up, i'm
> absolutely convinced she's saying "farmer" and not something else.  the milk
> cow thing makes sense, too!  i think.  but no time for analyzing that now.  i
> have to write a paper!  and apply to college!  and save the world!  and do
> laundry!
>   ha!
> ~ elizabeth

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urgh! i never had a crush on julie...i liked kate jackson and *gulp* helen
reddy

ryan

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> only lesbian who has had a crush on miss andrews for many years now.

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e. moranian bolles" <wishmonstr@aol.com> wrote:


>oh, amy was wearing pants too,

damn.

(oh, did i type that 'outloud?' and send it to the list and....)


  i hadn't planned to buy any merchandise... but i need a new hat, so i
bought one.  and they never sell t-shirts in my size (medium), so i felt i
*had* to buy one.  but why were the shirts so expensive?  plus, what the hell
does my hat mean?  my father said he thinks the flag is that of an nw old
railroad (i've repressed the name) which had the motto "follow the rail" in
all its ads, posted under this flag.  the flag is a red rectangle with a
black rectangle in the middle, the black one outlined in white.  maybe
someone else has a suggestion.  i'd like to know what i'm advertising.

i never know what i'm wearing when i wear ig merchandise. i still have no
idea what the snowflake fish combo on a black waffle knit shirt means.
ideas anyone?

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okay, i've totally lost my mind... still haven't done much on my paper
(though i got an intro, a thesis statement, and only 2.5 pages to go).  but i
have four hours, right?  in any event...
  i've been analyzing sister.  have this amazing image of amy on a
motorcycle, scared out of her wits.  *shiver*
  this is very sketchy as an analysis.  i'm hoping others will post, and i
can take the energy and develope my own finalized theory.
  okay, well, this is more of a comment, but i love that line "don't lose
track of where you've been and where you're going now, who you've seen and
what they lack/and why you've come undone, every time you go there/you come
undone."
  i feel like amy is talking to herself.  but i don't think she really is.
  what i'm really looking at is the second verse (isn't it crazy how in two
verses so much is communicated?):
"there was a bloody beast of burden on a dark texas road
  a woman in the family way and a car that lost control"
  is this not very biblical?  god, i love amy sometimes... well, all
times.... anyway....  it's so the christmas story.  a donkey, a pregnant
woman... so, i've got this image of a car wreck involving pregnant lady and a
mule, though i'm thinking it was a cow (read on).  maybe she was in labor?
then,
  "now i'm studying the distance between the blanket and the gun"
  so this forces her to wonder about life and how short it is...  and then
she thinks about what a long drive she has ahead of her, and how much
opportunity over the next 20 hours there will be for her to be killed.
  i guess in the chorus...
  "you learn to trust a stranger, stop and rest for the night" you've got to
rest, but you're in rural territory and that requires knocking on a door and
asking for a floor.
  "set your site up in the headlight, the moon won't be enough"  concentrate
on the road and it's not so scarey.
  "light the embers of another and the night won't seem so rough."  i don't
feel comfortable enough with this line to really go for it.

  the whole milk cow bit...
  "i wish i was a mother with a baby at my breast" -- caregiver, giving life
to young, beautiful life.
  "but i am just a farmer with a milk cow and a mess."  -- caregiver still,
but instead of nourishing with the gift of life, he's, you know, raping his
charge on a daily basis.  robbing her of that life.
  i'm assuming this farmer is the one who lost control of his car...
  okay, wait, i'm having an epiphany!   dude, see, it's this farmer and he's
driving along with his milk cow in a trailor thing on the back of his
vehicle, when he loses control and hits this pregnant woman.  thus, "i wish i
was a mother with a baby at my breast" but instead "i am just a farmer with a
milk cow and a mess."  he wishes he could exchange his present with the
extinguished future of that soon to be mother and child.
  ha!  it's got to be along those lines!  oh, that was wonderful.   very
proud of myself.

then the last two lines...
  "i said it's trust that brought me here and trust will bring me home."
basically, this song is about trust.  trust in oneself, trust in humanity,
trust in god (or whatever you care to call it), and trust in milk cows.
(well, maybe not milk cows.)  you've just got to trust.

i'd say this might seem less deep and exciting if it weren't almost 5 am...
but i'm not very tired and slept so late i'm not so tired....

what a song.  my word.

discuss.

~ elizabeth

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in a message dated 10/12/99 2:47:29 am eastern daylight time,
smackenz@scrippscol.edu writes:

>  it creeps me out in a good way like a nine inch
>  nails song. que bueno.

i think particularly the hidden version of "sister" after faye tucker has
that vibe to it...

peace,
  rick
going back to work today after a nice vacation, *sigh*

*i guess it comes apart so little by little
you don't know you're there till you're stuck in the middle* -emily saliers
<a href="http://members.aol.com/rbsayre/cheese.html">sweet page o'mine</a>
*there ain't no way i'm gonna let this heart mend* -amy ray

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in regards to the girls playing don't fear the reaper, i think that they are
only playing this one when they have 3 finger cowboy opening up for them!!!!
so if you are lucky enough to have them as the opening act you may just get
to hear this song.  they opened up at philly on tuesdays show and they came
out w/ig to sing this song during the encore!!!!   it was awesome!!!!

sandy

ps wonder why the butchies didn't come out and sing with them???  so far out
of all the opening acts i have seen i liked 3 finger cowboy the best!!

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hi all    i was wondering if anyone had the set list from 10/11/99
my girlfriend and i had to leave early     she had a migraine and couldnt stay
thanks

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i know somebody briefly posted a review, but i thought i would throw in with
a little more.  full setlist was (in order):

go (with joan osborne)
peace tonight (with joan osborne)
tried to be true
get out the map
skooter boyz
soon to be nothing
ozilline
cold beer and remote control
shed your skin
sister
least complicated
johnny rotten (amy on mandolin only)...this rocked!!!
compromise
power of two
faye tucker
trouble (with joan osborne)
shame on you (with joan osborne)

encore:
ghost
gone again
galileo

for what it's worth, the band has improved immensely in the last few weeks.
now that reynolds is gone (i love him, but he didn't work with ig), blake
has brought some real leadership to the rythem section!  rythem is tight,
full, and funky...just the way it should be.  yesterday was his birthday so
they brought him out a cake!  let me tell ya, emily can sure belt "happy
birthday".

opening act:  butchies.  after having seen mrs. fun and rosie polandzani, i
wasn't too thrilled about another ig opening act.  however, the butchies
were the best!!!!  without a doubt, the best opening act i've seen for ig
yet!  amy came out with her cute little red tamborine and did shooting star
with them.

i noticed that ig had brought along a big "truck" (bout 4 feet high, 4 feet
deep and about 7 feet long) mobile recording unit.  it looked like it was 16
decks from were i was sitting.  they were recording that show and intended
to get some quality.  does anyone know if they've been recording the other
shows with that kind of power?  i'd never seen them do that before.

add, whoever was in the mezzanine section with the camcorder and
tripod......i want a copy of the video boot!!!! (don't think we didn't see
you!)

anyway, that's night 1 in a nutshell.  4 more ig shows to go this week!!!!!!

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does anyone have a copy of this

on tue, 12 oct 1999, lance longwell wrote:

> i know somebody briefly posted a review, but i thought i would throw in with
> a little more.  full setlist was (in order):
>
> go (with joan osborne)
> peace tonight (with joan osborne)
> tried to be true
> get out the map
> skooter boyz
> soon to be nothing
> ozilline
> cold beer and remote control
> shed your skin
> sister
> least complicated
> johnny rotten (amy on mandolin only)...this rocked!!!
> compromise
> power of two
> faye tucker
> trouble (with joan osborne)
> shame on you (with joan osborne)
>
> encore:
> ghost
> gone again
> galileo
>
> for what it's worth, the band has improved immensely in the last few weeks.
> now that reynolds is gone (i love him, but he didn't work with ig), blake
> has brought some real leadership to the rythem section!  rythem is tight,
> full, and funky...just the way it should be.  yesterday was his birthday so
> they brought him out a cake!  let me tell ya, emily can sure belt "happy
> birthday".
>
> opening act:  butchies.  after having seen mrs. fun and rosie polandzani, i
> wasn't too thrilled about another ig opening act.  however, the butchies
> were the best!!!!  without a doubt, the best opening act i've seen for ig
> yet!  amy came out with her cute little red tamborine and did shooting star
> with them.
>
> i noticed that ig had brought along a big "truck" (bout 4 feet high, 4 feet
> deep and about 7 feet long) mobile recording unit.  it looked like it was 16
> decks from were i was sitting.  they were recording that show and intended
> to get some quality.  does anyone know if they've been recording the other
> shows with that kind of power?  i'd never seen them do that before.
>
> add, whoever was in the mezzanine section with the camcorder and
> tripod......i want a copy of the video boot!!!! (don't think we didn't see
> you!)
>
> anyway, that's night 1 in a nutshell.  4 more ig shows to go this week!!!!!!
>
> l'sly
>
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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 09:20:08 -0400
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can someone tell me if there is an ani video bootleg...i would like to get one
for my girlfriend, but i dont know much about ani.

thanks
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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 08:40:42 -0500
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a date of december 3 in eau claire, wi just showed up on pollstar.  i've
sent the ticket office email asking for details.  i'll post if i hear
anything further.
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it's 9:19am in madison wi.  "peace tonight" is on 105.5 fm.  this station
is a very strong supporter of the girls.  if anyone is in its range, please
listen!!

forgot to mention my indigo moment.  last friday i was taking my white dog
for a walk.  we went to a park where dogs are allowed to run without a
leash.  we let sparky off his leash to run around.  he was joined by two
black labs.  :-)
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hi,

i have a pair of 8th row (d) center section tickets for tonight if anyone
wants them.  i just want face value.  please email privately asap.

carlisle

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> from:    deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
> it was a good show, but i was a bit disappointed.  the songs
> did not sound dramatically different from the studio versions,
> and there were no interesting surprises like  "johnny rotten"
> or "don't fear the reaper."

i'm so glad that finally someone agrees with me on this one.  i think it
was the worst show i've been to yet (worst being on a scale of "best
thing in my life" to "just very enjoyable but not overly interesting").
the girls themselves seemed very happy, and "land of canaan" was
probably the best thing they played that night.  but, i was hoping for
even "virginia woolf" (beings that we were in va).

on a similar, yet side note, does anyone else out there feel like
playing "closer to fine" in the middle of the set takes something away
from the concert?  i praise the girls for trying something different,
but, i must say, in va, the concert seemed to be dragging, then they
played ctf, and i just didn't have the energy to enjoy it at that point
in the show.  then, after ctf, it drug on a little more, with spikes of
exictment here and there.  then, they closed with 1 encore and galileo,
and it just didn't have the same punch that ctf usually has.  i just
wondering if anyone felt that downer too.

all in all, i must just say that all ig concerts are best enjoyed in the
front row.  i think that was my main problem (being too far away).
there's nothing like getting to a venue at noon, making new friends also
waiting for front row seats, and then all ordering pizza, etc and
bonding, and then finally being so close.  it seems to me that general
admission just breeds fun!  :)  (but, i'm also just jealous cause i
never seem to be able to buy front row seats!).

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hey y'all...

     just wanted to add my humble opinion about the girls playing ctf at
every show...  i agree that they _have_ to play it, b/c it's the song that
put them on the map, and the audience wouldn't have it any other way, but i
also agree with amy that it shouldn't be the required closer of every show...
i mean, when _every_ show has the same closer for ten years running... i
don't know, i guess they start to feel a little bit like trained monkeys
during the encore.  i think it sounds cheesey to end with the same song every
show...  a good encore is all about giving the audience something extra,
something special... possibly a surprise, like a cover, or guest artist, or
both. i think they should stick to their guns... now that they've finally had
the guts to not play ctf as closer for so many shows in a row, even though
they know they may upset a few people momentarily for doing so, (you can't
please everyone, and some will always be resistant to change, but change will
never happen if you don't look past that), they should keep that policy in
place.  ctf is a good song, but it only represents part of their music, and
they've gone on to mature as writers, and produce even better material...   i
think the best idea they had was to make ctf the official opener, like they
did in knoxville.  it makes an even better opener than it did a closer! it
got the audience participating and all psyched-up for the show right away.

just my $.02,
lisa

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hi kids,

on the topic of song sequels, i think sister is the
sequel to "everybody's waiting for someone to come
home".  anyone?

love,
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>   okay, well, this is more of a comment, but i love that line "don't lose
> track of where you've been and where you're going now, who you've seen and
> what they lack/and why you've come undone, every time you go there/you come
> undone."

i think this is about relationships, like when you think about all the
people you've left behind or hurt or whatever, and what they lacked that
made you leave, and how sometimes it just makes you come undone to think
about it.

> "there was a bloody beast of burden on a dark texas road
>   a woman in the family way and a car that lost control"

i think the beast of burden is the milkcow and a mess, a bloody mess.
i've been under the impression that the pregnant lady drove off the road
and hit the cow...??

>   "now i'm studying the distance between the blanket and the gun"
>   so this forces her to wonder about life and how short it is...  and then
> she thinks about what a long drive she has ahead of her, and how much
> opportunity over the next 20 hours there will be for her to be killed.

i have no idea what the blanket/gun thing is there.

>   "set your site up in the headlight, the moon won't be enough"  concentrate
> on the road and it's not so scarey.

i think this one's about pitching a tent when it's too dark to see, so you
have to leave the headlights on.

>   "light the embers of another and the night won't seem so rough."  i

has anyone else ever been camping without matches?  well, you can light
someone elses campfire with embers from your own, especially if there are
embers left over from the night before.  helping someone out, you know?

>   the whole milk cow bit...
>   "i wish i was a mother with a baby at my breast" -- caregiver, giving life
> to young, beautiful life.
>   "but i am just a farmer with a milk cow and a mess."  -- caregiver still,
> but instead of nourishing with the gift of life, he's, you know, raping his
> charge on a daily basis.  robbing her of that life
>   i'm assuming this farmer is the one who lost control of his car...

or, maybe the pregnant woman lost control of her car and hit his cow, and
he wishes he were her, and not the guy with the cow in a bloody mess that
won't give any more milk.


anyone?  random thoughts?  excellent for a first one, it got me thinking!
thanks, whomever posted it!

chris ii

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okay, i'm attempting to not take up as much bandwith as possible...but...

an issue i have with this list is the incessant problem of criticism. or is
it just an issue of disagreeing with whatever people say? yes, to each his
own, but just because certain concert-going experiences were not up to
certain standards, does not mean the show sucked for everyone.this was a
full band show, meaning it would sound as in-studio versions sound. (do you
know how people would bitch if it didn't?) perhaps it's just my opinion, but
getting to see my favorite musical group perform live, and see them so
enthusiastic, well, yeah, i enjoyed it a great deal. i have seen shows that
left more of an impression, such as the 930 club show, which remains
untouchable. however, i was able to partake of this show from the 7th row
center with my girlfriend and two friends i hadn't seen in a long time,
which made it all the more special.

on the issue of security...
i have no problem with keeping order...i face that everyday in my job,in
fact i commented to other members of my party that security was in fact
doing their job. however, the reason the girls did not come out to sign was
because the head of security did not want to wait around that long. my
friend and i spoke with one of the security guys at great length, and he was
a very nice fellow. i did deal with two other event staff persons who were
very rude for no particular reason.

my third comment is regarding your md recorder. i am also a proud owner of
mini-disc technology. the quality of the recording is indeed reliant upon
your microphone. due to the digital nature of the recording, often md are
not suitable for booting because of sound sensitivity. to acheive a quality
recording stick with tape. or get a really expensive microphone.

a note to all listees:
if you get the chance to see the indigo girls perform live. please cherish
the opportunity.i think we all get a little jaded, perhaps because we've
seen them so many times, and if they don't change it up, or set off
fireworks, we're disappointed. they're musicians, and they're human.

appreciate them...

-lyndsay

fyi-my girlfriend kate, (known to some as indigokate or indigo junkie) knows
how to make a quality bootleg.

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>date: mon, 11 oct 1999 21:34:54 -0400
>
>>from:    lyndsay agans <eccemus@hotmail.com>
>>subject: indigo girls dc show! yay!
>>
>>this was actually the va show...but who's checking? so it was awesome.
>>awesome. highlights were jsut about every damn song. emily even played
>>soon
>>be to nothin which is quickly becoming my new fav.
>
>it was a good show, but i was a bit disappointed.  the songs did not sound
>dramatically different from the studio versions, and there were no
>interesting surprises like  "johnny rotten" or "don't fear the reaper."  i
>managed to set the levels on my md recorder just fine, but my mic was
>pretty overwhelmed, it was *loud* and i was up close.  and since the show
>wasn't that inspiring i don't expect to master it until after i get around
>to recent catie curtis and shawn colvin shows.
>
>>if it weren't for the
>>damn anal-retentive event staff, grumble grumble...
>
>i appreciated them for keeping rude people from running down the aisle to
>stand (or worse, dance wildly) in front of me.  that's what i feared the
>whole patriot center crowd would be like, but i was pleasantly surprised to
>find them in the minority.  most people participated *very*
>enthusiastically from the very same seats they paid for, permitting me to
>enjoy the show from the seat i paid for.
>
>>but all is well. (and i'm gonna get killed for saying this, but my
>>girlfriend did an awesome boot of the show that we listened to on the way
>>home)
>
>great, because i didn't enjoy the show enough to go through all it would
>take to clean mine up, though i'd be willing to help you master or tree
>yours if it is *excellent* quality (little to no crowd noise, consistent
>levels, no songs missing, etc.).
>
>--
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"there was a bloody beast of burden on a dark texas road
   a woman in the family way and a car that lost control"

hmm...i don't think i've seen anybody suggest the implication that i got the
first time i heard this, at the dec. show at eddie's attic last year.
the line haunted me: i understood that the pregnant woman *was* the beast of
burden, having been injured or killed when her car lost control.

sarah

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okay, my turn... i've been obsessing over this song for some time now,
too...

first verse:  "sister, i'm headed out of alabama, so you better think
fast..."

i don't think this is amy singing to herself...  it's amy singing to a
friend (not a lover), and saying "listen, i've got to move on here, you
need to make some decisions about your life, and i can't be here to help
you, but here's some advice...  think about the patterns in your life,
try to figure out why these things effect you so much."

chorus:  "i know your heart's in danger and so is your life..."

the core of the song -- trusting strangers is sometimes necessary,
especially when one is weary of travelling the distance, whether that's
physical or emotional.  the "set your site up in the headlights" thing
is most definately a camping metaphor (i have many memories of having to
do exactly this), and the embers of another line, well, if you're
focussing your energy on sex with someone, then you're not looking
inward quite as much.

second verse:  "there was a bloody beast of burden on a dark texas
road..."

i like how elizabeth brought out the mary on the donkey thing...  i'd
not noticed that before.  i think the "distance between the blanket and
the gun" speaks about how love/sex/sharing a blanket and be twisted into
physical violence.  (thinking here about dgtgag, for which this seems to
be the "parallel" on cons.)

i am curious about what the incident was that inspired this song.  i
like the theory about the car wreck with the pregnant lady and the cow
-- possibly something that amy read about or even saw?  but generally,
the song seems, to me, to be amy telling a friend (emily?  that was my
first impression...) that she needs to stop and think and figure shit
out, and not be so damned skittish about every stranger that she meets
-- it takes trust to get you anywhere, especially if you're heading home
after a heartbreak.
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oooh.  this just came to me - maybe the woman was
burdened by the fact that she was pregnant.  you know,
she didn't really want the responsibility of another
child.  maybe she has five already.  maybe she knows
her husband/the father of the baby is not going to
offer much support.  maybe she feels trapped in a life
of girl/woman turned mother/wife and feels her future
is now sealed.  maybe she was depressed and angry and
feeling as though she had no control over her life.
maybe she didn't want to feel that way anymore and she
took control and purposefully ran her car off the road
(or into a cow as some have suggested was the
collision).  her way of escaping someone else's idea
of what a woman is or should be.
what do you all think?
lisa

--- sarah pinsker <spinsker@goucher.edu> wrote:
> "there was a bloody beast of burden on a dark texas
> road
>    a woman in the family way and a car that lost
> control"
>
> hmm...i don't think i've seen anybody suggest the
> implication that i got the
> first time i heard this, at the dec. show at eddie's
> attic last year.
> the line haunted me: i understood that the pregnant
> woman *was* the beast of
> burden, having been injured or killed when her car
> lost control.
>
> sarah
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at 01:12 pm 10/12/99 , lyndsay agans wrote:

>an issue i have with this list is the incessant problem of criticism. or
>is it just an issue of disagreeing with whatever people say? yes, to each
>his own, but just because certain concert-going experiences were not up to
>certain standards, does not mean the show sucked for everyone.

who the heck said it did?  am i not allowed to share my opinion?  i didn't
say the show sucked.  quite to the contrary, i said "it was a good show,
but i was a bit disappointed."  note the *i* in that sentence.  and i went
on to elaborate on what disappointed me, which was *not* the show as a
whole!  sheesh, talk about unnecessary criticism.

>this was a full band show, meaning it would sound as in-studio versions
>sound. (do you know how people would bitch if it didn't?)

that's an interesting theory, but anyone who's seen ig perform "chickenman"
can tell you that they nearly always stray from the studio version.  and
that is true for several other songs as well (a favorite of mine is rather
rare, soy  with a bit of "brown-eyed girl" tossed in!).

>my third comment is regarding your md recorder. i am also a proud owner of
>mini-disc technology. the quality of the recording is indeed reliant upon
>your microphone. due to the digital nature of the recording, often md are
>not suitable for booting because of sound sensitivity. to acheive a
>quality recording stick with tape. or get a really expensive microphone.

i'm beginning to wonder if you actually read my message... i said "i
managed to set the levels on my md recorder just fine, but my mic was
pretty overwhelmed, it was *loud* and i was up close."  clearly, i am aware
that the mic was the problem (but this is the first time it's ever been a
problem, because i generally see shows at iota, the birchmere, and wolf
trap).

i do disagree with one thing though... having spent many years recording
with tape and md, i would never, ever return to tape.  sound levels on a
good md recorder can be adjusted (and i was able to keep even friday's show
well below peak), it was the mic that was the issue.  but i'm not willing
to buy an expensive mic, this one does well in nearly all circumstances.  i
*have* toyed with the idea of buying wind screens for newport, though. :-)

>fyi-my girlfriend kate, (known to some as indigokate or indigo junkie)
>knows how to make a quality bootleg.

then i'm sure she appreciates my 9:30 club bootleg of the show you so
enjoyed there.  looking forward to kate's tree.

---<>---
>from:    renee grebe <rgrebe@insuremarket.com>
>
>on a similar, yet side note, does anyone else out there feel like
>playing "closer to fine" in the middle of the set takes something away
>from the concert?  i praise the girls for trying something different,
>but, i must say, in va, the concert seemed to be dragging, then they
>played ctf, and i just didn't have the energy to enjoy it at that point
>in the show.  then, after ctf, it drug on a little more, with spikes of
>exictment here and there.  then, they closed with 1 encore and galileo,
>and it just didn't have the same punch that ctf usually has.  i just
>wondering if anyone felt that downer too.

not at all... i thought the entire show was very high energy, on the stage
and in the audience.  i thought the show was good, but there was just
nothing that set it apart for me, like the harrowing cio/wywh medley of the
last tour, or "american tune" of the early tours, or "down by the river" or
"cortez the killer" or "the river" or "thin line"... the list goes on and
on, but there was nothing at the patriot center which added to it.  and i
*really* want to hear "johnny rotten"... thusfar, every song amy plays
mandolin on has been an instant fave!

i like that they changed the closer, and "galileo" was the obvious
successor; it's a fan favorite (though i'm rather bored with it).  i'm
looking forward to the day that soy takes that spot!

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deb,

this really is related to what you're saying <g>... bear with me.

i saw an rem show at madison square garden when they were on their
monster tour.  we all cheered like crazy when they came out and then
they started their first song and stipe's guitar wasn't working.  some
roadies came out and tried to fix it, and then they started again and
it didn't work again.

at which point, stipe took off the guitar and dropped it on the stage,
and said "i fucking hate new york... it's our least favorite place to
play..."  and the crown was so stunned they went silent.

ok... to me, that was a show worth complaining about.  if he had
handled the technical difficulties with some style everything would hev
been fine.  but instead, he insulted his audience and basically made
his fans feel unappreciated.

i have never had an experience like that at any other live show.  sarah
mclachlin was "off" last year the night i saw the lilith tour... her
voice sounded rough and she seemed tired... but she was still there and
giving it her all, and connecting with her fans.  to me, that's still a
good show.  i agree with you that people are human, and having done
several theatrical tours i know, tours are hard on the body and the
voice (and for that matter the spirit).

i also think we should be appreciating the fact that they are hauling
themselves miles from home (in my case in san francisco, 3000 miles!)
to play for us and share some of themselves.  touring has become an
expected thing rather than a priviledge and i think fans (in general,
not just ig) need to realize that they don't *have* to be there.

as for debating vs. arguing about songs etc... i think debate is
healthy and i like to hear other people's opinions even if they are 180
degrees away from mine.  it only becomes arguing if people start
flaming.

thanks for sharing your thoughts!

jean


--- lyndsay agans <eccemus@hotmail.com> wrote:
> okay, i'm attempting to not take up as much bandwith as
> possible...but...
>
> an issue i have with this list is the incessant problem of criticism.
> or is
> it just an issue of disagreeing with whatever people say? yes, to
> each his
> own, but just because certain concert-going experiences were not up
> to
> certain standards, does not mean the show sucked for everyone.this
> was a
> full band show, meaning it would sound as in-studio versions sound.
> (do you
> know how people would bitch if it didn't?) perhaps it's just my
> opinion, but
> getting to see my favorite musical group perform live, and see them
> so
> enthusiastic, well, yeah, i enjoyed it a great deal. i have seen
> shows that
> left more of an impression, such as the 930 club show, which remains
> untouchable. however, i was able to partake of this show from the 7th
> row
> center with my girlfriend and two friends i hadn't seen in a long
> time,
> which made it all the more special.
>
> on the issue of security...
> i have no problem with keeping order...i face that everyday in my
> job,in
> fact i commented to other members of my party that security was in
> fact
> doing their job. however, the reason the girls did not come out to
> sign was
> because the head of security did not want to wait around that long.
> my
> friend and i spoke with one of the security guys at great length, and
> he was
> a very nice fellow. i did deal with two other event staff persons who
> were
> very rude for no particular reason.
>
> my third comment is regarding your md recorder. i am also a proud
> owner of
> mini-disc technology. the quality of the recording is indeed reliant
> upon
> your microphone. due to the digital nature of the recording, often md
> are
> not suitable for booting because of sound sensitivity. to acheive a
> quality
> recording stick with tape. or get a really expensive microphone.
>
> a note to all listees:
> if you get the chance to see the indigo girls perform live. please
> cherish
> the opportunity.i think we all get a little jaded, perhaps because
> we've
> seen them so many times, and if they don't change it up, or set off
> fireworks, we're disappointed. they're musicians, and they're human.
>
> appreciate them...
>
> -lyndsay
>
> fyi-my girlfriend kate, (known to some as indigokate or indigo
> junkie) knows
> how to make a quality bootleg.
>
> >from: deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
> >reply-to: deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
> >to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> >subject: dc area show (patriot center)
> >date: mon, 11 oct 1999 21:34:54 -0400
> >
> >>from:    lyndsay agans <eccemus@hotmail.com>
> >>subject: indigo girls dc show! yay!
> >>
> >>this was actually the va show...but who's checking? so it was
> awesome.
> >>awesome. highlights were jsut about every damn song. emily even
> played
> >>soon
> >>be to nothin which is quickly becoming my new fav.
> >
> >it was a good show, but i was a bit disappointed.  the songs did not
> sound
> >dramatically different from the studio versions, and there were no
> >interesting surprises like  "johnny rotten" or "don't fear the
> reaper."  i
> >managed to set the levels on my md recorder just fine, but my mic
> was
> >pretty overwhelmed, it was *loud* and i was up close.  and since the
> show
> >wasn't that inspiring i don't expect to master it until after i get
> around
> >to recent catie curtis and shawn colvin shows.
> >
> >>if it weren't for the
> >>damn anal-retentive event staff, grumble grumble...
> >
> >i appreciated them for keeping rude people from running down the
> aisle to
> >stand (or worse, dance wildly) in front of me.  that's what i feared
> the
> >whole patriot center crowd would be like, but i was pleasantly
> surprised to
> >find them in the minority.  most people participated *very*
> >enthusiastically from the very same seats they paid for, permitting
> me to
> >enjoy the show from the seat i paid for.
> >
> >>but all is well. (and i'm gonna get killed for saying this, but my
> >>girlfriend did an awesome boot of the show that we listened to on
> the way
> >>home)
> >
> >great, because i didn't enjoy the show enough to go through all it
> would
> >take to clean mine up, though i'd be willing to help you master or
> tree
> >yours if it is *excellent* quality (little to no crowd noise,
> consistent
> >levels, no songs missing, etc.).
> >
> >--
> >deb
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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 11:17:05 -0700
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and to those listmembers who got this privately sorry
brain freeze....

hi guys
here is my $.02 worth...(did yall miss me....i have
been busy...you guys will soon find out why...tee
hee...)

> "don't lose track of where you've been and where
you're going now, who you've seen and what they
lack/and why you've come undone, every time you go
there/you come undone."

i get a kinda life reflection feel here...like look at
where i have been and who i have become kinda thang...

> "there was a bloody beast of burden on a dark texas
> road a woman in the family way and a car that lost
> control"

here i am reminded of chickenman...5 prarie dogs and a
rabbit anyone?

>   "now i'm studying the distance between the blanket
> and the gun"

here i see her camping by the side of the road wrapped
up in her sleeping bag and listening to the sounds of
the night and wondering if she was attacked if she
could get ot her gun before getting killed. i think
that the days of little miss amy being the tourchered
soul that we all came to "know" through her songs is
long gone...i dont think that suicidal child exists
with in her any longer...

> "you learn to trust a stranger, stop and rest for
> the night"

i agree here, she is weighing out the conciquences of
stoping and asking for rest with a stranger...

> "set your site up in the headlight, the moon won't
> be enough"

here i see her consentraiting on the road and not
letting her imagination wander and her eyes play
tricks on her mind..

> "light the embers of another and the night won't
> seem so rough."

i too see her lighting a fire off anothers embers here
by the side of the road...however, i being a smoker
know that when i get nervous i chain smoke until i
realize that i am lighting one cigerette off
another...

>   the whole milk cow bit...
>   "i wish i was a mother with a baby at my breast"
> -- caregiver, giving life
> to young, beautiful life.
>   "but i am just a farmer with a milk cow and a
> mess."

i have no clue here will have to listen to it more
carfully and get back to you on that one...i dont
think the cow thing is right...if anyone gets a chance
to ask the girls a question that might be a really
good one...

> then the last two lines...
>   "i said it's trust that brought me here and trust
> will bring me home."

this is her reasuring herself that she is following
her insticts correctly and that everything will be ok
and work its self out for the best....

ok there is my opinion....next player....


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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 14:02:19 -0400
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my apologies if i missed this somewhere...they said something about how they
always change the setlist. so: does anybody know what was the substitution?
i can't remember why, but at the time my guess was either sbtn or compromise
was added instead of something, but i don't know what.

sarah

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i think the best thing about this list is that criticism is ok!  it's
nice to hear what people think, good and bad!  in fact, all the
possitive posts about the dc show helped me to see that i was being too
harsh on it!

i think it's great to see a first ig concert and treasure it as much as
you do your later ones.  and, i don't think people should be made to
feel bad for sharing their more negative comments (as long as we all
know and make it known that obviously we still love and respect the
girls).

ok, last word (from me) on that.  :)
renee

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>>"light the embers of another and the night won't seem so rough."<<

am i the only one that sees this as an obvious reference to sex?  lol!


jean


--- beccie lyon <dovesland@yahoo.com> wrote:
> and to those listmembers who got this privately sorry
> brain freeze....
>
> hi guys
> here is my $.02 worth...(did yall miss me....i have
> been busy...you guys will soon find out why...tee
> hee...)
>
> > "don't lose track of where you've been and where
> you're going now, who you've seen and what they
> lack/and why you've come undone, every time you go
> there/you come undone."
>
> i get a kinda life reflection feel here...like look at
> where i have been and who i have become kinda thang...
>
> > "there was a bloody beast of burden on a dark texas
> > road a woman in the family way and a car that lost
> > control"
>
> here i am reminded of chickenman...5 prarie dogs and a
> rabbit anyone?
>
> >   "now i'm studying the distance between the blanket
> > and the gun"
>
> here i see her camping by the side of the road wrapped
> up in her sleeping bag and listening to the sounds of
> the night and wondering if she was attacked if she
> could get ot her gun before getting killed. i think
> that the days of little miss amy being the tourchered
> soul that we all came to "know" through her songs is
> long gone...i dont think that suicidal child exists
> with in her any longer...
>
> > "you learn to trust a stranger, stop and rest for
> > the night"
>
> i agree here, she is weighing out the conciquences of
> stoping and asking for rest with a stranger...
>
> > "set your site up in the headlight, the moon won't
> > be enough"
>
> here i see her consentraiting on the road and not
> letting her imagination wander and her eyes play
> tricks on her mind..
>
> > "light the embers of another and the night won't
> > seem so rough."
>
> i too see her lighting a fire off anothers embers here
> by the side of the road...however, i being a smoker
> know that when i get nervous i chain smoke until i
> realize that i am lighting one cigerette off
> another...
>
> >   the whole milk cow bit...
> >   "i wish i was a mother with a baby at my breast"
> > -- caregiver, giving life
> > to young, beautiful life.
> >   "but i am just a farmer with a milk cow and a
> > mess."
>
> i have no clue here will have to listen to it more
> carfully and get back to you on that one...i dont
> think the cow thing is right...if anyone gets a chance
> to ask the girls a question that might be a really
> good one...
>
> > then the last two lines...
> >   "i said it's trust that brought me here and trust
> > will bring me home."
>
> this is her reasuring herself that she is following
> her insticts correctly and that everything will be ok
> and work its self out for the best....
>
> ok there is my opinion....next player....
>
>
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>
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>>>"light the embers of another and the night won't seem so rough."<<

>am i the only one that sees this as an obvious reference to sex?  lol!

no.  i only think of sex when i hear it. especially when it comes to
'trusting a stranger' too.  now before you all go getn' yer knickers in a
knot, i am not implying anything.  i am just saying this is what i think of.
and you can even tie that into the junkie girl in kings cross -- swindling
my last 20 for some poetry and a kiss. hmm......

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on tue, 12 oct 1999, jean moses wrote:

> >>"light the embers of another and the night won't seem so rough."<<
>
> am i the only one that sees this as an obvious reference to sex?  lol!
>

   i know that as a male, i'm supposed to think about sex all the time.
   but as something of a pyromaniac, i just want to take it literally.  ;)

   darius

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on tue, 12 oct 1999, jean moses wrote:

> at which point, stipe took off the guitar and dropped it on the stage,
> and said "i fucking hate new york... it's our least favorite place to
> play..."  and the crown was so stunned they went silent.

   at least he's being honest.  :)
   or spontaneous.

   either way, classic stipe.  i would have been cheering, actually.

   darius

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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 11:44:25 -0700
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>maybe the woman was
> burdened by the fact that she was pregnant>

maybe the bloody beast of burden was a wild animal she
hit while driving down the dark texas road...and the
gun is something she kept in the glove compartment for
protection, and she's wondering if she might have to
shoot the animal to either keep it from charging her,
or to put it out of its misery...

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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 11:53:55 -0700
reply-to:     joan morrison <morrison_joan@yahoo.com>
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> >>>"light the embers of another and the night won't
> seem so rough."<<
>
> >am i the only one that sees this as an obvious
> reference to sex?  lol!

luv that line. ;) totally agree with jean and nancy
here.  that's the first thing that came to mind when i
heard it and i cannot imagine it meaning anything else
but.  remember, amy said she's becoming more direct
and literal in her writing. <g>

> and you can even tie that into the junkie girl in
> kings cross -- swindling
> my last 20 for some poetry and a kiss. hmm......

and also the line about her and the junkie girl
trading in danger for the company of strangers...

peace!

joan :-d

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hi,

we have 2 front row seats available at face value for tonights show at the
beacon and we'd like to see a deserving fan get them.  email asap if you are
interested.

carlisle

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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 15:36:23 -0400
reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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i've been trying to figure out where i knew blair cunningham from, and it
finally came to me... he replaced martin chambers on the pretenders' 1986
album, "get close"!  i'm sure ig are easier to work for than chrissie hynde
was. :-)

but a web search turned up more interesting info.  he has toured with paul
mccartney (where he also brought former pretenders guitarist robbie
mcintosh with him).  no, that's not the interesting part. :-)  the link to
ig may be his work on gang of four's mall in the early 80's, with sara lee
and gail ann dorsey
<http://www.emdac.demon.co.uk/phil/gof/gof_rel.html>.  even more
likely:  work on manzanera & mackay's up in smoke with jerry marrotta a
full decade ago <http://www.pdi.net/~eristic/yes/tr_32.html>.

in any case, there were far fewer than six degrees of separation between ig
and cunningham even before they brought him on tour.

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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 20:44:48 +0100
reply-to:     claudine lapsky <claudine@ukonline.co.uk>
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trying to decipher the hidden lyrics has been driving me crazy and
impossible, so i'm thinking that if we can figure out what the song is
about, that those hidden lyrics will become apparent.

what is clear is that this song is the result of some serious thinking by
amy.  but what is it about?  umm, i have two kinda "out there" theories, so
here goes...

it's about abortion!  it's like amy is talking to a sister, a female friend,
and is there as a support to this person, maybe reminding the sister why she
wants/needs an abortion:

"don't lose track of where you've been and where you're going now, who
you've seen and what they lack/and why you've come undone, every time you go
there/you come undone."

it's like this part is what amy is telling this sister.  don't forget all
these other mothers you've seen, how their lives have changed, maybe what
they lack now - (money, time, independence, etc).  how those images/thoughts
affect the sister everytime she thinks about it.

as for the chorus:

"i know your heart's in danger" she has to make this difficult choice

"and so is your life" well an abortion can be life threatening.

"i said you learn to trust a stranger" putting your faith and trust into a
doctor, ie stranger

"set your site up in the headlight" is like don't look back, it's the right
choice

so bringing us to the next verse where "a bloody beast of burden" is the
guilt of the 'murder' maybe?  so do the lines "on a dark texas road, a woman
in the family way, and a car that lost control" describe this sister, the
pregnant one, as being overcome with guilt, etc and so on that dark road,
crash the car as some suicide attempt - the burden being so strong?  in
terms of the "studying the distance between the blanket and the gun" it's
like comparing the mother's suicide to an abortion.  how short is life type
of thing.  as for what the hidden lyrics are, maybe that's the voice or
conscience of that woman.

thanks for all the answers about natchez.  i can't quite figure out what
would be in natchez that would make amy want to drive 10 hours out to there.
that line sounds like it would take 10 hours to get to and then a 10 hour
drive back from there.  i always thought that it was a location that she
came from and so she was in between the two choices, but i don't think that
now.

my second wild theory is a variation of the drink driver theme.  so the
"bloody beast of burden" is the anger that amy feels towards the drink
driver who killed the "woman in a family way".  so when "i'm studying the
distance between the blanket and the gun" she's talking about studying the
distance between her and the killer and the gun would be the weapon of
choice.  that would tie in with the thought that natchez is a destination to
make a special trip of 10 hours for.

as for the chorus "i know your heart's in danger, and so is your life" is
like amy's talking to herself and reminding herself how dangerous the action
she's about to take is.  "set your site up in the headlight" just reinforces
the act of going out and gunning for this person.  "light the embers of
another and the night won't seem so rough" maybe is about lighting a
memorial, a shining light for the sister.  and the final lines that "trust
that brought me here and trust will bring me home" is the belief that the
actions she's about to take are just and so will keep her safe.  i really
don't believe that that's what amy's writing about, but the interpretation
could work!?

i hope you all don't start thinking that i've now got this dark and sick
mind!!  it's the power of this song and my obsession to work out the meaning
of it and the hidden lyrics that have driven me to these depths!!  ;-)

i think i'd better go and listen to a happy song now.

bye all,

claudine

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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 12:58:05 -0700
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but aren't amy's lyrics about sex most of the time????
tee hee...i can't wait to hear how much more direct
and literal her punk album is...of course here i am
thinking about the middle of when you're ready
lyrics...hey joan are you with me on this one? tee
hee...god knows the poetry that inspired me to write
was about sex.... :o)  anyway..enough said...my mind
is wandering something awful here....

--- joan morrison <morrison_joan@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>"light the embers of another and the night
> won't
> > seem so rough."<<
> >
> > >am i the only one that sees this as an obvious
> > reference to sex?  lol!
>
> luv that line. ;) totally agree with jean and nancy
> here.  that's the first thing that came to mind when
> i
> heard it and i cannot imagine it meaning anything
> else
> but.  remember, amy said she's becoming more direct
> and literal in her writing. <g>
>
> > and you can even tie that into the junkie girl in
> > kings cross -- swindling
> > my last 20 for some poetry and a kiss. hmm......
>
> and also the line about her and the junkie girl
> trading in danger for the company of strangers...
>
> peace!
>
> joan :-d
>
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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 15:04:00 -0500
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my first interpretation of the "ten hours to natchez and another ten home"
line was that amy was on her way home from austin.  they recorded part of
shaming in austin and it is ten hours from austin to natchez and another
ten hours from natchez to north georgia.  i'm not so sure about the
interpretation anymore--i'm leaning more toward the round trip theory now.

as for natchez as a destination...i've certainly considered it.  for those
who are curious about why i'd say that, check out this site:

<http://www.natchezpilgrimage.com/>

as for amy's reasons, who knows.  she may have relatives or friends in
natchez.
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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 14:19:43 -0600
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my first thought about amy's sister song was that it was about an abused
woman leaving a relationship.


chris iggulden, ma

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and weak are bound in a common destiny that decrees that none shall enjoy
lasting prosperity and stability unless others do too."
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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 16:56:56 -0400
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chris wrote:
>
> my first thought about amy's sister song was that it was about an abused
> woman leaving a relationship.

that's exactly what i thought.  the wonderful thing about a song, any
song is that it can mean so many different things to many people.  thats
a sure sign that the lyrics are intense and smart and well written.

elaine

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ispired by a comment by beccie, and comments by a few others...
  i had some new insights into sister since earlier this morning, when i
originally posted.  i guess the chorus (at least the second half) is about
camping in the woods on the side of the road.  in terms of the second verse...
  "now i'm studying the distance between the blanket and the gun
   i got ten miles to natchez, and another ten home."
does it not sound like, especially since she's camping out, that she's got a
gun nearby for protection, and that in her paranoid state she's just lying
there awake, staring at it, trying to figure how fast she could grab it.  the
main flaw in this is... the part where amy's "packing heat."  somehow i doubt
she travels with a gun.  but then, you never know, eh?
~ elizabeth

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i honestly meant no harsh criticism. but if you read the email you posted to
the list it seemed highly critical of the show. moreover, i wasn't being
critical of you in particular, i was speaking to all negativity thrown out
on the list.

i agree md's are superior, (let's not tread into technological
debates--because then we could bring in dat, and then where would we be?) i
meant no fightin' words, honest.

and yes, while live performances do stray from studio versions (as they
should) i do appreciate them. but often peopel are critical of too much
creative license (personally i love all the twists thrown in). my basic
point was for us just to be appreciative we have these women here gifting us
with their music.

peace tonight,

lyndsay

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if she is packing heat remind me nver to walk up
behind her and surprise her...

--- "e. moranian bolles" <wishmonstr@aol.com> wrote:
> ispired by a comment by beccie, and comments by a
> few others...
>   i had some new insights into sister since earlier
> this morning, when i
> originally posted.  i guess the chorus (at least the
> second half) is about
> camping in the woods on the side of the road.  in
> terms of the second verse...
>   "now i'm studying the distance between the blanket
> and the gun
>    i got ten miles to natchez, and another ten
> home."
> does it not sound like, especially since she's
> camping out, that she's got a
> gun nearby for protection, and that in her paranoid
> state she's just lying
> there awake, staring at it, trying to figure how
> fast she could grab it.  the
> main flaw in this is... the part where amy's
> "packing heat."  somehow i doubt
> she travels with a gun.  but then, you never know,
> eh?
> ~ elizabeth
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hey y'all

thanks to everybody for the answers about kings cross - so much for me
and my arrogant british geography :). i guess that's another one for the
faq - how many parts has that thing got these days anyway?

thanks also to everybody for the catie curtis info - i'm looking forward
to seeing her in concert - who knows, i might even buy her cd. (actually
that's extremely likely)

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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 17:15:20 -0400
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how cool is it when your *boss* keeps you informed?!

> -----original message-----
> from: glasheen, william p.
> sent: tuesday, october 12, 1999 4:40 pm
> to:   lane, tara e.
> subject:
>
> (montpelier, vt.) -- beginning in january, blue cross and blue shield of
> vermont will begin offering benefits to domestic partners of individuals
> insured by small firms, abc newswire reported.  previously bcbsv only
> offered the benefits to companies with more than 50 employees.  the change
> is expected to extend benefits to as many as 70,000 vermonters. (abc
> newswire)
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i have a friend with 2 tickets he can't use to this in towson (recher
theater) on oct 17 (sunday).  he paid $24 each.  anybody interested just
email me.

-tara

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*sings*
57 mess'ges and nothin' in...
*brooce mode off...*

oh, and don't forget to get those indicated recordings to me asap....

gleanings from the ether:
"tomorrow (wednesday) the station is spotlight the indigo girls all day
from 6a-9p. from 7a-9a they will be presenting songs that the indigos
have interpreted (don't think this is live), and there will be a live
interview at 11am with rita houston.
you can go to the wfuv.org webpage and look under the cityfolk subpage
for more info.
supposedly they did something on wfuv last night after the show..."

@}--,--'---

ps. we have a new kitty. it needs a name.
i like 'seffa' (as in seefa cat)
or even cedar...
or jess..
anyhow, she's charcoal with darker tabby markings.
and i'm allergic to her...

abi's page!!! http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/abi/abi.html
this week, neil 'as been mostly been listening to:
ferron - 'the ima sessions', a little fairgound atraction; george gershwin
'piano rolls'; james brown 'star time (box)'
song o' the week: 'god bless the child' - billie holiday

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date:         wed, 13 oct 1999 07:30:55 +1000
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hey folks,

joan said:
>and also the line about her and the junkie girl
>trading in danger for the company of strangers...

>from the story amy told the first time she played "gone again"
in sydney in '98, i always thought that said junkie simply
approached amy in the street asking for money (it's that sort
of part of town), amy started a conversation which touched on
the book of poetry amy was reading at the time, and ended with
amy giving the girl $20...

(i really don't like kings cross, can you tell? :)

sherlyn (lots of thoughts about "sister" but i'm gonna need a
few days to put them into coherent form)
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yeah, blair first toured with paul mccartney on his '93 tour.  paul introduced
him as being from memphis

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hey y'all,

deb wrote:

>   even more
> likely:  work on manzanera & mackay's up in smoke with jerry marrotta a
> full decade ago <http://www.pdi.net/~eristic/yes/tr_32.html>.

it occurred to me - maybe jerry was the person who reccomended blair to
amy and
emily? it would make a lot of sense...

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october 11, 1999

******************
and i thought the album was great!    amy and emily prove once again that
even if it's perfect on the album, it'll be 10 times better in person. ok, so
here's my personal review.   i'm new at this...stick w/ me.  and feel free to
post any further commentary.  here's the set list:

go - incredible in person. such power. amy was dancin' up a storm
peace tonight - great single.
tried to be true - crowd loved it
get out the map - emily told everyone to sing along!!!  and sing along we did!
scooter boys - the girls jammed for a bit during this one.  it was great.
soon be to nothing - beautiful as always
ozilline - bigger response then i expected.
cold beer and remote control - crowd loved this one.  how could you not?!
shed your skin
closer to fine - crowd helped out a lot.   ig fans at their best.
sister - wasn't as popular w/ the crowd. not too many people singing along on
that one. i was!!!!
least complicated - someone shouted for them to play this. they said it was
their last song but the                     would skip to it.
*new amy song* - if anyone knows what it is. please post it or e-mail it to
me privatly.  beautiful.
compromise - amy in pure punk.
power of two
faye tucker - much better live then on the album
trouble - great response.   crowd must like emily's new style. haha
shame on you - amazing.

encore:
ghost - no words to describe this one i'm sure y'all know how i feel.  ;)
gone again - one of my favs on the new album.....i was praying that they'd
play it.   woohoo
galileo - new closing song?    worked for ny!!!

tidbits:

the butchies opened for the girls.  they were great. i'd never heard them
before. gonna have to buy the album now.  they told a cute story about how
they wanted to try on the outfits that they were wearing and how the sales
girl didn't know which dressing room to unlock ( girls or guys ).  during one
song amy came out on stage w/ her tamborine and jammed w/ the butchies. she
sang the chourus' too. it was awesome.

emily was wearing all black again, w/ green suede shoes. amy was wearing clue
jeans w/ a blue button down and a black tank top underneath.

the crowd was great. no stage rushing, just pure indigo spirit.

a little boy came onstage and handed amy some flowers. she thanked him and he
went back. a few minute later he came back again and they talked, you
couldn't hear what they were saying but she shook his hand and then gave him
a hug. it was adorable.

the new band kicks. they sounded great.   it's always a pleasure to hear the
girls onstage ..just them and their guitars....but they sounded amazing w/
the band.

allright,  if i'm missing anything. feel free to add.    anyone w/ upcoming
tix - your in for a real treat.   i'll be grinning for days.  indigo dreams
to you all.
<3,
danielle snow
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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 11:19:17 -0400
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i'm selling one amherst ticket:  floor, section a, row 13, seat 6.  $36
(what i paid).  this is thirteen rows back from the stage, on emily's side
(you can check the exact location at ticketmaster).

if interested, please contact me soon!
thanks,
flora

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hello! thanks to those who made it out to hmv records sunday; sorry we weren't there! (harvard square's oktoberfest was rained-out.) this saturday the 16th is a chance for me to catch up with you in cambridge, however! yes, this is just a friendly reminder that i'll be at club passim, saturday, october 16th, two shows, 7 & 10pm. my buddy johnsmith from wisconsin will be opening and be sure to get there early to catch him and be seriously uplifted.  (can't count on me for that.) (just kidding) come and check out the new songs in their current forms - will be recording the new cd starting this week! it will be produced by adam steinberg, who recently produced les sampou's latest album (check it out, on flying fish, it's wonderful). he's a guitarist who you may have heard with patty griffin and more recently, dixie chicks.

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i have just come back to this list today....of course spurred on by the new
ig cd. i am just wondering what people think of the cd in general. i have
to say that i really like it. 1200 curfews is my favourite but this is
definately #2. on most of the cds i generally like 1/2 the songs....on
shaming the sun i liked 3....but i like all of the songs on this cd. it is
great.


chris iggulden, ma

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lasting prosperity and stability unless others do too."
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just a bit of info amy gave out in  birmingham before she sang sister she
said :
            "i wrote this next song one night when i was riding my bike
(motorcycle) from chatt.  to home. it was raining and i forgot my rain gear
so i had to stop, it was really wet. so i stopped and wrote this song ,
thanks for listening"

         i may be a bit off on the exact quote but basically she wrote the
song  in one night on her way home in the rain.
-di

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hey gang- so my vacation over, i went to work this morning... quite happily,
actually! i'm finally starting in the music dept, you see & for the first
time ever my job is the best part of my life!! anyway- haven't been there
since cons was released- and what did i see? it's on our top 50 display- at
number 19 (i have no idea how they determine this, but i was all psyched).
and we have them on the listening stations... which meant that as long as
there weren't any members of upper management around i could turn on any
random station, pump the volume up to the max and hear a song from cons at a
time for as long as my lil' heart wanted to. :) which of course was pretty
much all day... i was *very* pleased to be able to be at work and just glance
up and see the cons cover over on the display...

anyway... :) peace,
rick

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you don't know you're there till you're stuck in the middle* -emily saliers
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hey there everyone.

my gf had a pretty interesting interpretation of the line
"now i'm studying the distance between the blanket and the gun"

she thought it was a reference to thinking about how much longer it
would be before she got home safely (the blanket) or if she should
risk the possibility of being assaulted or killed (the gun, possibly a
metaphor
for a potential hate crime) becuase she is a woman riding a motorcycle
(not to metnion a gay woman riding a motorcycle) in an area that might
have be the most safe environment or open have minded people, (like
some places in the south where she was traveling through).

just a thought.

take care and peace!

-debigogrl

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i thought that this show was great.  it must have been
fate b/c i was home from a college that the girls were
not playing anywhere near.  damn, it was good to be
home.

so i managed to get the setlist. i was excited.  its
up on my wall in my dorm. the new amy song that
someone mentioned is written in as "johnny rotten".  i
enjoyed joan osborne's special apperance. she
definitly has rhythm.

i have yet to receive the new album (i know, i know)
but i have a few mp3's from my campus network
neighborhood, so i did not go in blind to new stuff.
i enjoyed go i think, the best.  it was amazing live.
also the beacon theater was a good venue to see this
show in.  i had not been there before and i was
impressed.  even though i wish they were selling some
posters, but maybe next time.

i'd like to know what everyone thought....


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i think lyndsay meant to post this to the list....

tim

"what if i am black or jew
straight or queer, mother of two
run around in a hippie dress
ride my bike in a leather vest
what's the matter"

catie curtis, "what's the matter" from a crash course in roses......

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>i'm not being radical when i kiss you, i don't love you to make a point...
>
>yes, catie curtis is definitely someone this list should appreciate. i took
>my girlfried to her show at the birchmere and catie was wonderful live, i
>got to meet her and she signed my cd too (even drew a guitar! yay)
>
>so, to all the indigo heads, check out catie curtis the new album is great.
>
>-lyndsay
>
>>from: havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com>
>>
>>catie curtis is a wonderful singer-songwriter from maine who has recorded
>>four beautiful cds: from years to hours (still available from
>>www.folkweb.com), truth fom lies, catie curtis, and the recently released
a
>>crash course in roses (www.rykodisc.com).....catie has a voice that's
clear
>>as crystal and an extremely engaging personality.  my personal favorites
>>among her song repertoire include minefields (from years to hours),
>>troubled
>>mind, radical, dad's yard, soulfully, and what's the matter (with melissa
>>ferrick on backing vocals.....the catielist is another great email
>>community
>>(with more than a few ig listers in residence).....

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first off, thanks for posting the music heather, i love it!
ok, as per usual i don't think i know what i'm talking about, but here
goes...
i liked the abortion/abuse interpretations, i think it's along those
lines, that this "sister" needs to organise her life.  she needs to decide
what's right for her and stick to it "so don't lose track", but that she
needs to realise that no one can handle everything on her own, she needs
to "learn to trust a stranger".
i think the "sister" had someone in her life that was extremely
controlling, and even though she knew they weren't good for her she
couldn't help but fall for them.  -"who you've seen and what they lack,
and why you come undone."
the next verse makes me think that the "sister"'s other was violent and
that some sort of chase took place that resulted in tragedy.  maybe?

the last chorus and semi verse takes the song on a new lead.  if you look
at it without the rest of the song it's almost as if amy is saying "take
me, i'll be here for you".  maybe i'm going crazy but when amy adds
"sister, go ahead, come on" to the chorus which we've already established
might imply sex, it seems to make sense (at this second, but i'm sure to
change my mind).  also, "it's trust that brought me here, and trust will
bring me home." imho means that here *is* home, possibly with this
friend/lover/sister.

just some random thoughts, i love all the images this song evokes

maddie

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i'm wondering what exactly "red corner shoes" are...are they red shoes in a
corner? and also,the next part " i'm looking over my whole collection/ i''m
pickin you a special selcetion" is emily talking about all her shoes
here,and if so,whats with the footwear obsession??

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hi y'all. about sister, since i think amy is more of a soc writer, i rarely
analysis her songs line by line. i think overall sister gave me an impression
that this world is cruel and lonely, and we need to help and be helped by one
another, be compassion for each other, trust each other and we'll then be
fine. this song remains as my favorite on cons.

i know i'm obessed when:
1. at work i was getting up to go to the bathroom, and heard peace tonight
coming out from my radio, so i sat back down and listen and hold it till it's
over, even though i have the cd and i can listen to the song as many times as
i want to. (and this's even not my favorite song on the cd!)

2. discussing the top 25 influential people in the milleninum, from a & e
channel, w/co-workers. galileo came up. the song stayed in my head for the
rest of the day.

thanks for reading, and yes, i do have a life, and a wonderful one. :)
dottie

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i think she's getting ready for a big night at home and she's perusing her cd
collection for a special selection for the person she's with.  such evocative
lyrics.  you know, dancing at home in the red shoes that you never wear, just
you and that special person?

love you guys,

bonnie

bronwen besso-smith wrote:

> i'm wondering what exactly "red corner shoes" are...are they red shoes in a
> corner? and also,the next part " i'm looking over my whole collection/ i''m
> pickin you a special selcetion" is emily talking about all her shoes
> here,and if so,whats with the footwear obsession??
>
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> every day, it doesn't mean that much to me, it's the little things you
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still got that one extra ticket for section iii main floor row one! please
email me! i paid $75 for it and will take at least face value for my gas to
drive up there from florida.
thanks!
marie

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hey folks!
so, does anyone know if this show is sold out? my sister really wants to go
and i'm doing some "foot-work" for her. also, what's the date again? and
does anyone know the phone number for the mt.baker theater? i guess this
could all be irrelevant if the show is sold out, but i'm crossing my fingers
that it's not. :) thanks a million!
peace,
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in a message dated 10/12/99 9:36:51 am pacific daylight time,
talbotc@umich.edu writes:

<< i think the beast of burden is the milkcow and a mess, a bloody mess.
i've been under the impression that the pregnant lady drove off the road
and hit the cow...??

>   "now i'm studying the distance between the blanket and the gun"
>   so this forces her to wonder about life and how short it is...  and then
> she thinks about what a long drive she has ahead of her, and how much
> opportunity over the next 20 hours there will be for her to be killed.

i have no idea what the blanket/gun thing is there. >>

you know the movie twelve angry men?  the part where they're talking about
the distance for someone to walk in a certain amount of time (sorry, i don't
'member it really well) reminds me of sister (or sister reminds me of it, or
whatever). maybe she passed by an accident, and she tried to figure out what
happened...there prolly wouldn't be much of a reason to do that, but that's
just what came to mind:)

pax, celeste:)

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perhaps the "red corner shoes" are the ones she misplaced in "caramia." :)
(just kidding--i know that part of caramia was about sara lee's dream...)

when i hear peace tonight, for some reason i always envision a girl from the
50s getting ready for a party. y'know, with the poodle skirt, horn-rimmed
glasses, looking over her "whole collection" of record albums for that
"special selection." okay, so i really doubt that's what em is talking
about, but that's what comes to mind, especially b/c the song is so bouncy
and it feels like something those kids could've "be-bopped" to. (no offense
to those listees who've done their share of be-bopping--there's no shame in
that ;))

so on the positive, i got cast in another musical! on the bad side, my dog
just died... it's been one hell of a week...

shannon

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ok, here's the show review.

opener:  rose polanzani.  she was ok.  either you like her or you don't.
however, she wore the same red top/black bottom outfit that she's worn every
time i've ever seen her.  yawn.  she was accompanied by david "goodie"
goodrich (who was excellent!)  amy introduced her wearing her nice red
leather jacket.

fashion:
emily--black top, blue/white camo bottoms with black leather boots.
amy--silk print top (red diamonds), blue jeans and yes...black leather
boots.

the setlist was:
go (with joan osborne)
trouble (with joan osborne)
land of canaan
least complicated
compromise
love will come to you
gone again
cold beer and remote control
scooter boys
get out the map
sister
closer to fine
ozilline
peace tonight (with joan osborne)
kid fears
power of two
shame on you (with joan osborne)

encore:
or with rose polanzani and david "goodie" goodrich
faye tucker
galileo

some highlights:
during cold beer and remote control, blake was jamming!!  he and amy were
singing the lyrics back and forth to each other.

at the beginning, emily introduced her sister elizabeth and her friends.
elizabeth was in an off-broadway play and emily introduced her friends too.
amy said they would be going to the show on thursday night.

for sister, amy introduced it by saying it was about a motorcycle trip she'd
taken some back.  she was just learning riding and was a total novice and
she didn't have any gear.  it started raining and she got soaked.  she
talked about doddging 18-wheelers.  so, that's what it's about.

peace tonight was good.  emily launched into it too soon and forgot to bring
out joan osborne.  amy stopped it, they brought osborne out.  she finished
the song with them, it was very cute.  on a side note, somebody's got to
stop joan osborne and her "hoochie" dance...man, that is annoying.

a note on the set, i love the candels that are sprinkled throughout the
stage.  very cool!

finally, the guy who was in the balcony last night with the videocamera was
in row 3 tonight recording it.  he wouldn't give me his e-mail or phone
number, but i gave him mine.  he'll be in the audience tomorrow recording as
well.

that's the review...

cheers,
l'sly


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date:         tue, 12 oct 1999 22:40:38 pdt
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hey boys and girls... i'm procrastinating yet again. senior year was supposed
to be fun. what's with all this work? anyway, i should be researching
thesis-related stuff, but instead im sipping fuzzy navels in the comfort of my
apt. and sifting through emails. love the 'sister' etc discussions. makes me
proud to be among fans who analyze and obsess (not a bad thing!) as much as i
do over lyrics and the like....
well, one of my roommates has finally passed out on the couch. she's an
engineering major and takes classes with the word 'concrete' in the title and
studies way too much for my taste!  she was rifling through all my cds (knelt
in front of my whole collection, you could say, to make that special
selection!) and she came up with a glen miller collection. now, not that i
don't enjoy a little glen miller from time to time, after all, i bought the
cd, but it's not exactly what i'd pop in at 1 am when i'm trying to stay
a-w-a-k-e.  she's the type that will repeat cds over and over and over
again...for lack of something else... ok ok, so all 4 of my roommates had to
listen to cons repeatedly (they didnt seem to mind as they have no musical
affiliation and rather enjoy my taste - lucky for them!) but glen on repeat is
not sitting well with me tonight. how long can one remain in the mood for
freak's sake?  awhile ago she absent mindedly said of the current song:  'hey,
this is blueberry hill!'  my response:  'yeah. you didn't catch that the other
3 times???' oh well....
i am rambling, yes indeed.... but for any of you who may 'know' me by now, you
know how i looooooove to ramble! rambling is good for the soul....

and now i lost my train of thought (if there was one!) because i got a random
phone call from a friend from high school that is still stalking me! it's
almost 2am! what was she thinking??? anyway, my friend sally and i looked like
dorks today, both wearing our new ig long sleeved t shirts, purchased at fri
nights pat. center show..... yes, we planned to wear them, and our ig dog tags
(too funny!) to show our ig pride!
blah blah blah. ever too tired to go to bed?
cant get amy and emily's voices from fri. out of my head. i'm still on such a
high from the show. they are so amazing. alright, now i'm just going to get
mushy, so i'd better go....... if anyone's still with me, thanks for
reading.... much love and peace tonight,
karen

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date:         wed, 13 oct 1999 02:58:52 -0400
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there was an interesting but lengthy article posted on the humans list today
that might be of interest to some of you.  bc shares an interest in a lot of
social issues with ig and he creates some great music and word pictures.
his latest cd, breakfast in new orleans, dinner in timbuktu features duets
with lucinda williams and margo timmins (blueberry hill, believe it or not).
another man who loves creating music with women....what more can i
say.....me and bruce, we be mates.....

peace,
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sorry, got lost in a tangent.....i'll forward the article privately to
anyone who is interested.

tim

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>there was an interesting but lengthy article posted on the humans list
today
>that might be of interest to some of you.  bc shares an interest in a lot
of
>social issues with ig and he creates some great music and word pictures.
>his latest cd, breakfast in new orleans, dinner in timbuktu features duets
>with lucinda williams and margo timmins (blueberry hill, believe it or
not).
>another man who loves creating music with women....what more can i
>say.....me and bruce, we be mates.....
>
>peace,
>tim
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hi--sorry if this question has been answered but i was away all last week.
my latest entertainment weekly reviewed cons (with a b+, highest they've
ever gotten from ew) but i noticed they were not among the top ten albums
last week.  usually they break top ten first week of a new release.  does
anyone know where they debuted on the charts?  if this has been posted
please let me know privately.  thanks

also i must add that after my thumbs down to cons originally, the cd has
definitely grown on me.  the key was to toss everything i have ever known
about ig out the window and pretend like they were a new band.  pretty good
stuff.  and i am not ashamed to go on record saying that peace tonight is
my fave song on the whole thing.  take care y'all

greg

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if anyone gets this station, turn it on now.  the girls are on pretty much
all morning.
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hey y'all, i came out to my 8year old son monday....what a relief!! at first
i didn't think he would take it well, but he did!!!  the guilt is gone and
no more sneaking around with my gf.  know that old saying "honesty is the
best policy" it's true!!! :)

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indigo girls are one of those rare entities.  they just keep getting better
and better all the time.  come on now social features a whole host of
guests including true greats like rick danko and gareth hudson from the
band.  nevertheless, it?s at all times an emily saliers and amy ray record.
it also happens to be easily one of the best discs of this or any other
year.

accidents will happen.  the gestation of this brilliant collection occurred
at a jam session in london with the english band ghostland.  amongst those
there were john reynolds (sin
ad o?connor?s drummer and musical
collaborator), caroline dale (cello), clare kenny (bass) and carol issacs
(piano, accordion, organ, moog).  these form the backbone of come on now
social.

reynolds became co-producer and due credit for the extraordinary sound of
this album has to go to him.  the opening tune "go" has an electrifyingly
live feel to it and you won?t hear better rock music by anyone anywhere!

the mandolin-inspired "gone again" (with hudson, danko and sheryl crow) is
as simple as a train journey and as bittersweet as losing a loved one.
"sister", though, is haunting.  a tale of dangerous escape from the deep
south of the usa, it?s the outstanding number here.

come on now social ends with a 12 minute, three-part epic based on the
execution of faye tucker last year.  tucker was the first woman to be
executed by the state of texas since the civil war.  there?s a strangely
irish and celtic feel to parts of "faye tucker" as well as a breathtaking
vocal performance by the female arabic singer, natacha atlas, on this plea
for compassion and justice.

indigo girls have always mixed the personal and the political with the
skill and excitement of the very best in rock and roll.  come on now social
finds them surpassing themselves yet again.  a classic record from one of
the best duos of . . . oh well, all time?

they gave the album 11 out of 12!
fare thee well.
marion (aka molly)

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hi,

i have 2 extra tickets available for tonight (face value) for the beacon that
i'd like to see a deserving fan get.  please email me privately if you are
interested.

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the girls are playing "love will come to you" ?

i died and went to heaven!

marie

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i have to jump in here & say that i get the impression that amy is talking
to
herself in this song-- & that the beginning part of the song is written as
if
the motorcycle is talking to her. sounds crazy, but i know that i talk to my
car & to myself when i am driving in bad weather & the line about "the wind
is gonna pick me up" is then a direct reference to riding a motorcycle
where,
like flying, you are affected by wind strength & direction.  i think seeing
the accident with the bloody beast of burden etc. was the thing that made
her
turn off & seek shelter. the distance between the blanket & the gun is the
contrast between comfort & oblivion. (or it is literal-- a scary thought) (&
let us not forget amy's last song about guns. maybe that is where she went &
"come undone") i think it is a very lonely rumination about herself, but the
last line gives us (& her) hope-- "trust will bring me home"

just some thoughts. i have come around to really loving this song. & am
among
those who wish the hidden track version was whole...

have a lovely wednesday,
-alexandra

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review of nyc show in nypost today!

they liked it! they really liked it!

i'm so pumped up to see them tonight! i do hope, though, that they don't do
too much new stuff only...

indigo gig's to dye for

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without the aid of testosterone - either on stage or in the audience - the
indigo girls and their ultra-devoted following created a concert
environment monday that rivaled anything the best men in rock could conjure.

the indigo girls - amy ray and emily saliers - appeared at the beacon for
the first of a three-show engagement featuring their distinctively female
take on heartland rock. often chatty in the past, the indigos had little to
say to their fans this time, allowing the music to do almost all the talking.

and what talking. with fire-and-brimstone musical passion, the band
performed for a solid two hours, working through most of their
underappreciated recent release "come on now social" as well as a few
vintage hits from previous albums.

those who don't know their music might assume the girls offer a girly-girl
gruel of introspective folk mush.

they don't. at the beacon, their appeal was rooted in their precise
understanding of regular, working-class women, and their songs highlighted
these women's purpose and dignity.

in some of the songs that dignity is a bit tarnished, most often by
shortchanged dreams and a grinding daily existence, but there's also some
humor mixed in.

in the mid-show tune "cold beer and remote control," for example, a tale of
a shattered american dream is tempered with the notion that cold beer and
the clicker can soothe a woman's soul - just like it can a man's.

there is no one-upmanship between ray and saliers. the lead vocal division
is simple: brunette ray takes on the jagged-edged rockers and mountain-girl
shouters, while blond saliers sinks herself into the softer, coffeehouse
folk compositions. together in harmony, their divergent styles add dynamic
tension.

monday's show was souped up by the husky alto and hip-shaking of joan
osborne, who joined the indigos for three songs at the start of the show
and for another couple at the close.

as good as those three-part harmonies were, the night's most powerful and
best vocal turn was ray's, on her song "faye tucker." that tune, straight
out of the appalachian folk tradition, opened starkly with ray's mandolin
solo as she sang a few notes. the simple song got increasingly complex as
the rest of the band joined in.

one of the interesting things about the indigo girls is that they are
accomplished, multi-instrumentalists who can play anything and sound good.
the selections ranged from "we are together" - like something out of joni
mitchell's songbook - to a nirvana-like rocker called "compromise." this
versatility kept the beacon show moving - and kept the fans on their feet
for nearly the entire evening.

whenever the girls requested a sing-along, the audience complied, not only
singing the words correctly, but doing so in key.

even those who would never think of playing an indigo girls album would
have been impressed with the performance the pair and their backing band
mustered at the beacon.

the indigo girls continue their series at the beacon theater (broadway at
74th street) through tonight. the performance is sold out, but scalpers are
out in force in the two blocks surrounding the theater.


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i get the sense that this song is about an abused woman leaving her
home...on the run. the part about light the embers of another and the night
won't seem so long....says to me that we all need to reach out and help
each other as "sisters" in order to help ourselves. i wonder if she has a
friend who was in this situation and she helped her...

the blanket and the gun makes me think of battered women's defence....when
some women kill their husbands while they are sleeping b/c of a perceived
threat....

at 10:57 am 10/13/99 edt, alexandra ogilvie wrote:
> i have to jump in here & say that i get the impression that amy is talking
>to
> herself in this song-- & that the beginning part of the song is written as
>if
> the motorcycle is talking to her. sounds crazy, but i know that i talk to my
> car & to myself when i am driving in bad weather & the line about "the wind
> is gonna pick me up" is then a direct reference to riding a motorcycle
>where,
> like flying, you are affected by wind strength & direction.  i think seeing
> the accident with the bloody beast of burden etc. was the thing that made
>her
> turn off & seek shelter. the distance between the blanket & the gun is the
> contrast between comfort & oblivion. (or it is literal-- a scary thought) (&
> let us not forget amy's last song about guns. maybe that is where she went &
> "come undone") i think it is a very lonely rumination about herself, but the
> last line gives us (& her) hope-- "trust will bring me home"
>
> just some thoughts. i have come around to really loving this song. & am
>among
> those who wish the hidden track version was whole...
>
> have a lovely wednesday,
> -alexandra
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and weak are bound in a common destiny that decrees that none shall enjoy
lasting prosperity and stability unless others do too."
                        president nelson mandela of south africa
                        canadian parliament, september 24, 1998


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my apologies.  credit for making the review available, and the comments
before it, should go to "loislane" who posted it to the new epic board.
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you know, ig fans in general and especially the folks on this list really
are wonderful, generous people. i've been to the beacon shows the past two
nights and have felt really great to be part of such a family of great
fans, listening to my favorite musicians.

i just want to publicly thank carlisle and jeanette of the list for being
so generous to buy a bunch of absolutely amazing front row center seats and
offering them to list members. i was a lucky recipient of one of these and
i have to say i've never had a concert experience like it. it was a dream
come true, and it really meant a lot to me to have that opportunity.

thanks for being great ig family!

-sue

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date:         wed, 13 oct 1999 13:44:06 -0400
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i was wondering if anyone knew whether or not they'd do some more touring
during the summer or if the last tour dates are in december.  as it is, i
would be seeing a lot more concerts if i didn't have pesky things like
classes to worry about. :)

kelly


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indigo girls; "ghost"

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hi all,

turns out i have an extra ticket for the beacon show tonight! it's row b
(6th row) to the left of amy in seat 21. i'm asking face value for it -
$35. email me privately before 4:15 if you are interested.

thanks!
sue

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date:         wed, 13 oct 1999 11:19:02 -0700
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just testing to see if all was well in indigo
land...havent gotten list mail all day and was worried....

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new california date!!!
behold the details:

humboldt state university center arts presents:
indigo girls

monday, november 8, 1999
@ eureka municipal auditorium
eureka, ca

tix onsale monday, october 18, after 9:00 am (pst)
707-826-3928

(general admission only)
$30.00
$25.00 for hsu students w/ id

yippee!!!  yay for my school!!!

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subject:
          re: tonight (10/12) at the beacon
      date:
          wed, 13 oct 1999 17:40:23 gmt
      from:
          john_nyc@my-deja.com
organization:
          deja.com - before you buy.
newsgroups:
          alt.music.indigo-girls
  references:
          1


my reaction was so similar to yours.  first of all, it was definitely
the best show of theirs that i've seen.  i also agree about the new
songs being so much better live.  in fact, i said as much to my friend
right after the show.  in particular, last night was the first time i
truly enjoyed sister.  i guess i had to have amy sing it to me ;-)

i decided to write down the songs as they did them, so i can say you did
a great job with your "rough" set list: the only one you missed was gone
again.  if anyone wants to know the set list in order, here it is:

go
trouble
land of canaan
least complicated
compromise
love will come to you
gone again
cold beer and remote control
scooter boys
get out the map
sister
closer to fine
ozilline
peace tonight (interrupted after they started because emily forgot to
call joan osborne back out onto the stage)
kid fears
power of two
shame on you

encores:
or (rose polenzani song with a&e on backup vocals)
faye tucker
galileo

some notes on the rose p. encore song.  someone near me got a copy of
the set list from the stage after the show was over, and that's the only
place i got the title "or" from, so i'm not sure if that's right.  also,
amy got a bit annoyed because during this beautiful, but quiet, song,
some jerk had yelled out a request for galileo.  after the song was
over, she said something like, "you know we're going to play galileo.
you don't need to yell for it during the quietest song of the night".

but the audience interaction was really great the rest of the concert.
i had the good fortune of sitting 4th row center, and there was some guy
in front of me who was *really* getting into the music.  emily had
noticed him during power of two and had smiled... a bit later amy saw
him, and started laughing (when she was supposed to be singing backup).
then i noticed she was looking up to the balcony, and seemed to be
struggling not to lose it.  it was quite a funny moment.

ah, what an evening.


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in a message dated 10/13/99 11:11:40 am eastern daylight time,
sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu writes:

> monday's show was souped up by the husky alto and hip-shaking of joan
>  osborne,

this has got to be the best description of joan i've ever heard! :)

>
>  as good as those three-part harmonies were, the night's most powerful and
>  best vocal turn was ray's, on her song "faye tucker." that tune, straight
>  out of the appalachian folk tradition, opened starkly with ray's mandolin
>  solo as she sang a few notes. the simple song got increasingly complex as
>  the rest of the band joined in.

  and this reminds me of "tangled up in blue" from 1200 curfews... yes?


living vicariously,
  rick

*i guess it comes apart so little by little
you don't know you're there till you're stuck in the middle* -emily saliers
<a href="http://members.aol.com/rbsayre/cheese.html">sweet page o'mine</a>
*there ain't no way i'm gonna let this heart mend* -amy ray

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subject:      <sigh> i have to unsub for a while...
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yes it's true...i'm unsubbing from the list for a while.  i simply don't have
the time anymore to keep up with the list, and i'm planning to start driving
truck over the road, which will keep me away from anything resembling a
computer for at least 3 weeks a month.  so, i bid all you wonderful intimate
strangers farewell.  i will miss you all, but at least i will have my
memories, and my copy of cons, to keep me company.

dawn

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date:         wed, 13 oct 1999 12:27:41 -0700
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> > (montpelier, vt.) -- beginning in january, blue
> cross and blue shield of
> > vermont will begin offering benefits to domestic
> partners of individuals
> > insured by small firms,

sounds like vermont is the place to be right now. :o)
i just read in the paper last night that the state
legislature is trying to pass a same-sex marriage
bill.  ellen degeneres and anne heche have said they
will marry there if the bill passes.

peace!

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date:         wed, 13 oct 1999 15:16:12 -0400
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hey kind friends,

in the spirit of cons, a call to become active in the world, we come to you
with a proposition:

i (aka: armydillo@mindspring.com) am riding, on a bicycle, from tampa to
atlanta to raise money for the schools for chiapas program.  my personal
goal is one school bond ($5) for each mile i traverse (460 miles total) i
will forward an information sheet to all those interested.  please e-mail
either beccie or me privately for more info.  if there is enough interest
then i will post the info sheet to the list.  briefly i am seeking both
monetary and volunteer support.

i ask all of you, my fellow listees, to please contribute and support me on
this journey.  even if you cannot afford to make a contribution, i still
need volunteers to ride, drive, find lodging, and sell bonds.  please
contact beccie lyon (dovesland@yahoo.com) for information on helping to
promote this ride.  like myself, she is working full-time in addition to
promoting this ride and if it is to be a successful as we hope it to be, we
will need all the help we can get.

now you may be asking yourself, why is this crazy chick riding her bike in
the middle of winter to atlanta????? because i could just raise money and
send it down there or i could raise money and awareness of the injustices
these people have had to bear: the struggles against genocide and all types
of human rights violations, which our government is "indirectly" funding.
through my grueling trek i am bound to catch the attention of at least a few
people and perhaps instill in them the drive to press for change in our
government and in the mexican government.

the schools for chiapas program is to provide an educational opportunity
above the 6th grade level for indigenous children. for more information on
this program and the struggles in chiapas visit these web sites:

schools for chiapas:    http://www.igc.org/mexicopeace/
chiapas history:                http://www.igc.org/igc/pn/hg/chiapas.html


please help.  in indigo spirit,

nancy lambert and beccie lyon

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which album is "love will come to you" on?

and, does anyone know if the igs are coming to canada anytime soon?

at 01:11 pm 10/13/99 -0500, sheryl jones wrote:
>subject:
>          re: tonight (10/12) at the beacon
>      date:
>          wed, 13 oct 1999 17:40:23 gmt
>      from:
>          john_nyc@my-deja.com
> organization:
>          deja.com - before you buy.
> newsgroups:
>          alt.music.indigo-girls
>  references:
>          1
>
>
>
>
>my reaction was so similar to yours.  first of all, it was definitely
>the best show of theirs that i've seen.  i also agree about the new
>songs being so much better live.  in fact, i said as much to my friend
>right after the show.  in particular, last night was the first time i
>truly enjoyed sister.  i guess i had to have amy sing it to me ;-)
>
>i decided to write down the songs as they did them, so i can say you did
>a great job with your "rough" set list: the only one you missed was gone
>again.  if anyone wants to know the set list in order, here it is:
>
>go
>trouble
>land of canaan
>least complicated
>compromise
>love will come to you
>gone again
>cold beer and remote control
>scooter boys
>get out the map
>sister
>closer to fine
>ozilline
>peace tonight (interrupted after they started because emily forgot to
>call joan osborne back out onto the stage)
>kid fears
>power of two
>shame on you
>
>encores:
>or (rose polenzani song with a&e on backup vocals)
>faye tucker
>galileo
>
>some notes on the rose p. encore song.  someone near me got a copy of
>the set list from the stage after the show was over, and that's the only
>place i got the title "or" from, so i'm not sure if that's right.  also,
>amy got a bit annoyed because during this beautiful, but quiet, song,
>some jerk had yelled out a request for galileo.  after the song was
>over, she said something like, "you know we're going to play galileo.
>you don't need to yell for it during the quietest song of the night".
>
>but the audience interaction was really great the rest of the concert.
>i had the good fortune of sitting 4th row center, and there was some guy
>in front of me who was *really* getting into the music.  emily had
>noticed him during power of two and had smiled... a bit later amy saw
>him, and started laughing (when she was supposed to be singing backup).
>then i noticed she was looking up to the balcony, and seemed to be
>struggling not to lose it.  it was quite a funny moment.
>
>ah, what an evening.
>
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------
>sheryl jones
>sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu
>cooper seay page:
>http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/3349/cooper/cooper.htm
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and weak are bound in a common destiny that decrees that none shall enjoy
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                        canadian parliament, september 24, 1998


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it is on rites of passage

-----original message-----
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which album is "love will come to you" on?

and, does anyone know if the igs are coming to canada anytime soon?

at 01:11 pm 10/13/99 -0500, sheryl jones wrote:
>subject:
>          re: tonight (10/12) at the beacon
>      date:
>          wed, 13 oct 1999 17:40:23 gmt
>      from:
>          john_nyc@my-deja.com
> organization:
>          deja.com - before you buy.
> newsgroups:
>          alt.music.indigo-girls
>  references:
>          1
>
>
>
>
>my reaction was so similar to yours.  first of all, it was definitely
>the best show of theirs that i've seen.  i also agree about the new
>songs being so much better live.  in fact, i said as much to my friend
>right after the show.  in particular, last night was the first time i
>truly enjoyed sister.  i guess i had to have amy sing it to me ;-)
>
>i decided to write down the songs as they did them, so i can say you did
>a great job with your "rough" set list: the only one you missed was gone
>again.  if anyone wants to know the set list in order, here it is:
>
>go
>trouble
>land of canaan
>least complicated
>compromise
>love will come to you
>gone again
>cold beer and remote control
>scooter boys
>get out the map
>sister
>closer to fine
>ozilline
>peace tonight (interrupted after they started because emily forgot to
>call joan osborne back out onto the stage)
>kid fears
>power of two
>shame on you
>
>encores:
>or (rose polenzani song with a&e on backup vocals)
>faye tucker
>galileo
>
>some notes on the rose p. encore song.  someone near me got a copy of
>the set list from the stage after the show was over, and that's the only
>place i got the title "or" from, so i'm not sure if that's right.  also,
>amy got a bit annoyed because during this beautiful, but quiet, song,
>some jerk had yelled out a request for galileo.  after the song was
>over, she said something like, "you know we're going to play galileo.
>you don't need to yell for it during the quietest song of the night".
>
>but the audience interaction was really great the rest of the concert.
>i had the good fortune of sitting 4th row center, and there was some guy
>in front of me who was *really* getting into the music.  emily had
>noticed him during power of two and had smiled... a bit later amy saw
>him, and started laughing (when she was supposed to be singing backup).
>then i noticed she was looking up to the balcony, and seemed to be
>struggling not to lose it.  it was quite a funny moment.
>
>ah, what an evening.
>
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------
>sheryl jones
>sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu
>cooper seay page:
>http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/3349/cooper/cooper.htm
>bootleg page: http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/3349/boots.htm
>
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>


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and weak are bound in a common destiny that decrees that none shall enjoy
lasting prosperity and stability unless others do too."
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                        canadian parliament, september 24, 1998


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hey guys told y'all i have been busy...seriously
though this is a great cause. we need riders, and
places to stay, meals and such, and any publisity help
would be warmly welcomed...just email me with any
suggestions and such and we will let you all know what
we have planned and scheduled...we are running with
this, and in the words of miss amy....go go go!!!!


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beccie lyon

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>from creative loafing (atlanta newspaper) best of atlanta 1999 issue:

best independent record label

critics' choice
daemon records

as a rule, daemon puts out records that you'll either love or hate, but
very few you won't care either way about. if more record labels operated on
that principal, mark mcgrath would have to go out and get a real job and
artists like ph balance, three finger cowboy and rose polezani might be
hamming it up with carson daly on mtv's "total request live." ok, that's
still a little far-fetched.
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indigo girls rock with a new sonic boom
by:  by isaac guzman. staff writer
edition: all editions
section: part2
date:  10-13-1999
b09

indigo girls. the georgia duo rocks harder while
holding onto its social conscience. seen monday at the
beacon theatre, 2124 broadway, manhattan. the butchies
opened. in the first of three sold-out shows at the
beacon theatre, the indigo girls wasted no time in
giving new york a taste of the duo's new sound. to
launch monday night's 110-minute set, they chose to
open with "go," an uncharacteristically hard-charging
rocker born of the band's collaboration with
ghostland, the british band that backed up sinead
o'connor in 1997 and 1998.
     the vibrant, neil young-like distortion ringing
from amy ray's and emily saliers' guitars probably
didn't surprise any fans who had previously seen the
indigo girls perform live. for years the band has
failed to capture on record the energy of its live
sets. but this performance followed in the wake of
"come on social," the duo's first album to feature the
trappings of modern rock, late '90s-style: drum loops,
trip-hop flourishes, wailing guitars and guest
appearances by the likes of sheryl crow, joan osborne
and me'shell ndegocello.  (osborne and the
irish-tinged band ghostland appeared monday night.)
     while the indigo girls proudly rolled out their
sonic makeover, aided by osborne's appearance on
several songs, they also made it clear that their
commitment to social activism had in no way been
diminished. acknowledging monday's holiday, saliers
said, "yeah, we really believe in columbus day. come
on over and kill the indians." the leftist slant was
reiterated in "go" with the line, "rock is cool but
the struggle is better." many of the new songs, such
as "peace tonight" and "soon to be nothing," featured
indigo girls trademarks such as tight vocal harmonies,
pealing banjos and lilting folk-rock choruses. others
such as "faye tucker" and "ozilline" were tinged with
elements of appalachian folk music. all of them were
infused with propulsive performances by the members of
ghostland, who added elements of irish folk with tin
whistles and accordions. especially notable was
cellist caroline dane, who provided several moving
solos, some of which sounded like jimi hendrix, others
like yo-yo ma.
     though they focused largely on new material, the
duo included many highlights from their 14-year past.
the early hit "closer to fine," which brought their
first acclaim in 1989, inspired an accomplished mass
sing-along that rang through all three floors of the
beacon. "power of two" illustrated saliers' talent for
love songs, and "shame on you" showed ray's ability to
fuse indignant political statements with evocative
guitar pop.  with their unfashionably layered
haircuts, and dressed simply in jeans and untucked
dress shirts, the indigo girls were by far the
least-cool-looking people on the stage of their own
show. but despite
refusing to cater to the image-conscious norms of
mtv, the indigo girls have found success anyway. the
duo almost never gets mainstream radio airplay, but
their last record, 1997's "shaming of the sun," sold
2.5
million copies anyway. though they may look like a
quaint folk-rock institution, the indigo girls have
quietly developed into one of rock's most arresting,
adventuresome acts.
     the butchies opened the evening with a charming,
if derivative, set of grungy pop songs and ballads.
clad in grease monkey jumpsuits, the trio of riot
grrrls pumped out accomplished late '80s indie rock in
the vein of yo la tengo, the spinanes and throwing
muses. but in keeping with their name and hairdos, the
butchies sang about "growing up queer in a small town"
and talked about "having a major pat moment" when a
store clerk didn't know which gender's bathroom to
direct them to. if the band's lyrics were sometimes
difficult to hear, the spirit of their dissonant
guitar rock was always bracing.

illustration/photo: photo by leo sorel - the indigo
girls, amy ray, left, and emily saliers, at the be
acon

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date:         wed, 13 oct 1999 17:30:19 -0500
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hi,

sorry for the nigc. i had to post to the list a great big thanks to all
of the wonderful people from the list who responded to my cries for help
while writing my major english paper.  i got the paper back today and i
got an a!  it always amazes me how kind and helpful the people on this
list have been to me and others.  y'all rule!  thanks again!

smiles,
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hi,

i am new to the list and i am very jealous reading
about all of the great shows.  it seems the girls are
on the east and west coast for the next couple of
months. does anyone know when they are coming to the
midwest?

please help, i am having withdrawals from a live show
by ig.
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>>grandma o.  "...he did, he observed saturday as the sabbath"
>>
>>amy: "what...what kind of faith does that make him?"
>
>seventh day adventist.

that would be it!...kindah freaked me out to hear her talking about
it...probably cuz ya never hear about the church like that...
...can i just say i love this song?!...it's wonderful to have someone write
such an elder-revering song...
cheers, ya'll...

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subject:      re: ozilline (beginning with amy and her grandma)

i love it, too. "what a blessed sky" sounds like my one
grandmother, and she was a 7th day adventist. she'd leave
a candle burning on the coffee table friday nights when
she went to church.

that little touch is one of my sweetest memories of her.
kc
> >>grandma o.  "...he did, he observed saturday as the sabbath"
> >>
> >>amy: "what...what kind of faith does that make him?"
> >
> >seventh day adventist.
>
> that would be it!...kindah freaked me out to hear her talking about
> it...probably cuz ya never hear about the church like that...
> ...can i just say i love this song?!...it's wonderful to have someone write
> such an elder-revering song...
> cheers, ya'll...
>
> rugbygrrl
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hey folks,

forwarded from the news-only list...

-sherlyn

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>subject: [ig-news] 12/3/99 date
>date: wed, 13 oct 1999 11:56:23 cdt
>
>hi all --
>
>luckily you don't really have to breathe to type, or i wouldn't be able to
>write this.  i live in eau claire, wi, and am just a _little_ excited about
>the announcement of the 12/3 eau claire date.  i have a friend who works at
>the university of wi - eau claire and she just confirmed this concert date
>with the activities dept.  they do not know yet when tickets will go on
>sale, but they will be offered to registered uwec students first.
>
>i will post again when i hear when tickets will be on sale.
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ok. my freaking car got towed today and i had to waste 2 hours dragging my
friend around the ghetto of dc to pick it up. so what if i was in a tow away
zone between the hours of 7 and 9 am and that's when you'll get towed if
you're parked there..... is that any reason to tow me?  =0)
let's look at the irony, shall we?  i got in a huge wreck the day after my
birthday (end of august) after waiting 3 years to finally get a car at
school... i stress for almost 2 months b/c im carless and bitter b/c i have to
walk 25 min to campus and back in the middle of the night sometimes.... and i
feel stranded, helpless, annoyed, etc. so moms and pops murphy visit last
weekend from ct with a surprise: one of the 'family cars' for me to use until
they either get the other one repaired or junk it and get another used car....
three days after they leave, i am stunned to find my car gone as i hurry to
get in it and speed off as i am late for a 10am class.... i flipped out,
thought some bastard had stolen it... so i sat on the curb, in a daze, cursing
and just burst into tears. things have not been going well for me since i
started this semester...... so i sit in class all day, worrying about all this
and feeling like a complete asshole b/c i failed to see the no parking sign.
had to tell my dad so he could fax me a freaking notarized letter giving
permission for me to retreive the car (he's the registered owner) so i was
pissed off all day and exhausted b/c all i do is work.... but a few things
brightened my day: in my shakespeare class we are reading troilus and
cressida, and there's reference to helen, whose face could 'launch a thousand
ships'  so when the prof says that i perk up and sing ghost in my head for the
remainder of class.... then, as i was reading a kenneth branagh biography for
my theater thesis research during my boring anthro. class, i noticed that he
had produced a little movie originally called 'in the bleak midwinter' so i
smile, thinking of the girls, and proceed to sing that song in my head for the
remainder of class.... then, and this never happens, as we are driving around
this afternoon, searching for my car, i was flipping around on the radio and
almost wet myself as i heard '....distant, is that i keep fucking up'  (yes,
shame on you!!!!!! and i thought, how fitting, seeing as i seem to keep
fucking up!)  well, just thought i'd share..... ig to the rescue again.....
damn, i love them.
thanks,
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i thought the red corner shoes in pt might be a throwback to dorothy from
the wizard of oz and her shoes,  you know, her red glittery ones that she
had to click three times to get home.  the song's about em getting
together with her friends for a good time and i think em's saying that
those special moments when she's together with her good friends feels like
she's at "home".

just my take,
annie


                "happiness is a by-product, not a goal"
                                -eleanor roosevelt

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> >>amy: "what...what kind of faith does that make
> him?"
> >
> >seventh day adventist.
>
> that would be it!...kindah freaked me out to hear
> her talking about
> it...probably cuz ya never hear about the church
> like that...


am i missing something here?  on my cons cd, after amy
asks what faith does that make him grandma o says "uh,
he didn't have one."  there's no mention of seventh
day adventist.  i know that they observe saturday as
the sabbath, but there is no mention of them in the
first part of the song.  is there a different version
of this song out or something?

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in a message dated 10/13/99 8:31:56 pm central daylight time,
morrison_joan@yahoo.com writes:

<< am i missing something here?  on my cons cd, after amy asks what faith
does that make him grandma o says "uh, he didn't have one."  there's no
mention of seventh day adventist.  >>

not only that, but there are countless sects among the xtian and other faiths
which observe saturday as their sabbath.however, in this case, she clearly
says, "he didn't have one.  he didn't believe in any one thing."
did i mention i love this song?
just as an aside, i will be out of town and set to no-mail between friday and
sunday.  if anyone needs me, you'll have to email me privately before friday
morning or after sunday evening.

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hi everybody,

anything's possible with the ig lyrics, but all i know is that when i'm puttin
on the red heels that i don't wear often and my husb is picking out a special
cd, some major dancing in the house and good sex is about to happen!  i loved
the imagery of that part.

bonnie

anne maynes wrote:

> i thought the red corner shoes in pt might be a throwback to dorothy from
> the wizard of oz and her shoes,  you know, her red glittery ones that she
> had to click three times to get home.  the song's about em getting
> together with her friends for a good time and i think em's saying that
> those special moments when she's together with her good friends feels like
> she's at "home".
>
> just my take,
> annie
>
>                 "happiness is a by-product, not a goal"
>                                 -eleanor roosevelt
>
>                 "like leaves tapping on the bedroom window
>                         when the wind is howling out,
>                 come the whispers of past wrongs we've done
>                         and the jury's still out..."
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someone wrote:

<< amy got a bit annoyed because during this beautiful, but quiet, song,
some jerk had yelled out a request for galileo.  after the song was
over, she said something like, "you know we're going to play galileo.
you don't need to yell for it during the quietest song of the night" >>

jesus, what sort of trend is starting?

~ elizabeth

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  you know you're obsessed when you beging learning how to play the mandolin
so you can be the first to figure out and play "johnny rotten" as it was
meant to be performed.

blushing furiously,
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hi folks,

just a couple of things to bother you with today...<g>

great reviews are being given of both cons and the concerts!

but please remember that when replying to posts, do not quote the entire
text of the original message.  quote only what is necessary please!

also, please remember that personal sigs at the end of your message
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ok, so i felt like treating myself to a new cd tonight. and ive been really
into folk lately. so i went to barnes and noble and got this "folk implosion"
cd that ive heard about. cause i thought you know, folk in the name=folk in
the music. wrong. i put it in at home, and boy was i suprised... its
definatly not the kind of folk i was thinking (you know like ani style). but
its ok. its more rockish than folk. its not a girls group... so thats a big
change. it does have the poetry element of folk music tho, so thats cool. but
i need to listen more carfully before i buy things. i shouldve gotten tori
instead.

anyway. i was very pleasantly suprised when i saw our girls at # 19 on the
barnes and noble chart! i was happy. so i talked about it to the sales lady
and she knew alot about them. so i was like. wow twice as good! im just in a
good mood today, so anything will make me happy.

so i sent in  my letter to the administration. and she wanted to talk to me
during srt (student resource time). but the thing is im busy during that
period from here until forever. (actually only nov. 3) but i went to talk to
her during a passing period. and she was soooooo nice!!!! i mean i was so
suprised that we actually have nice deans at my school. i walked in and she
was on the phone so she told me to come in and hang on a sec. and then i told
her who i was and she stood up and shook my hand and was like "its soo nice
to meet you, i really didn't know who you were"   so we talked about when we
could talk during srt she told me to get back to her. so im really excited! i
hope it goes over well=)
well thats all for now, thanks for reading my long boring story
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oh my god... of all the indigo girls shows i've ever been to, tonight was
the best.  by far and away, this show rocked.

opener:  ph balance.  they rocked.  a fresh cross between the beastie boys
and a cabaret act.  they did about 8 songs.  amy came out and introduced
them!

fashion:
emily -- blue top, black jeans, glitter eyeshadow.
amy -- funky brown top shirt, her trademark black tank-top, super-funky
black and white polyester plants and blue suede shoes.
sulli--killer xena t-shirt.

setlist (in order):
go (with joan osborne)
peace tonight  (with joan osborne)
reunion
virginia woolf
compromise
trouble
romeo & juliet
get out the map
shed your skin
andy
ozilline
closer to fine
faye tucker
cold beer and remote control
sweet as tupolo honey (a joan osborne with amy & emily)
power of two
shame on you

encore:
ghost
gone again
galileo

highlights:
reunion--i absolutely never thought i'd hear this song again live!!
absolutely mindblowing!!!!

virginia woolf--another classic the girls dusted off for the night.  this
was hot and fresh!  emily ripped it up!

compromise--they had to re-start this song 3 different times because amy
was...distracted.

trouble--amy blew her amp.  very cool.

romeo & juliet--hadn't heard this one since the 1997 tour so that was
great!!!  they audience remembered it and sung along.

get out the map--emily introduced this by saying that her friend joan is
back from south africa.

andy--em said it's about a farmboy's unrequited love.

sweet as tupolo honey (the joan osborne song)--surprisingly good!  i'm sure
if this is the correct title, but close enough.

overall:
the greatest ig show i've ever seen!!!  both emily and amy were on tonight!
ig has given exceptional performances over the years, but this tops it all.
they were on!!!!

cheers,
l'sly


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from: barbinmn@webtv.net (barbara bordner)
date: wed, 13 oct 1999 23:52:25 -0500 (cdt)
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ani is folk?  she's definately accoustic oriented,
but to be folk it has to go a lot deeper than some  song you hear on a
radio station. pete seeger was right when he was  stating in an article
that nwadays it seems that  folk music
means you're just  a singer with a guitar, and a mike on a
stage.......that's what most people call folk.

and i'd like to see folk music portrayed differently in the media.  folk
music isn't just a
form of entertainment, it has always been  a
simple expression.  i have to feel  it in your gut way down inside, when
i think of folk i think of sounds that seem down home, like fingerstyle,
and swing guitar, appalachian(mmmph?),

when they start putting the drums or drown out the singer so you can't
hear the words, or it begins to have a studio sound,  or the words
are really poppish, then it loses its meaning to me.  i don't lke a lot
of poppish  songs, because
they don't have much meaning for me, they're like bubble-gum music.

i made an exception for ig because i love their harmonies, and they've
been courting activists
like myself ever since they became noticed.  i've never considerred ani,
or melissa, or ig to
be folk artists and i don't think the girls do either. i know on 1200
curfews amy told an 8-yr-old girl, "if you're attending rock shows at
8 yrs old you're doing really good."

that's my two cents worth.

peace,

barb


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i read somewhere that ani refers to herself as 'the folksinger'.....

check rec.music.folk for the latest scoop on what is (or isn't) folk music
and you'll (a genetic you, not a specific reference) never complain about
stale threads on this list again.....

the problem seems to be that *sometimes acoustic/sometimes
electric/singer-songwriters performing works of passion with intelligent and
thought-provoking lyrics* doesn't fit too readily on file cards and index
tabs, so anyone whose music tends to reside above the center of gravity gets
dumped into the *folk* bin, much to the chagrin of those whose idea of a
thought-provoking piece is "on top of spaghetti".....

where's the asbestos when you really need it?????

tim

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ani is folk?  she's definately accoustic oriented,
but to be folk it has to go a lot deeper than some  song you hear on a
radio station. pete seeger was right when he was  stating in an article
that nwadays it seems that  folk music
means you're just  a singer with a guitar, and a mike on a
stage.......that's what most people call folk.

and i'd like to see folk music portrayed differently in the media.  folk
music isn't just a
form of entertainment, it has always been  a
simple expression.  i have to feel  it in your gut way down inside, when
i think of folk i think of sounds that seem down home, like fingerstyle,
and swing guitar, appalachian(mmmph?),

when they start putting the drums or drown out the singer so you can't
hear the words, or it begins to have a studio sound,  or the words
are really poppish, then it loses its meaning to me.  i don't lke a lot
of poppish  songs, because
they don't have much meaning for me, they're like bubble-gum music.

i made an exception for ig because i love their harmonies, and they've
been courting activists
like myself ever since they became noticed.  i've never considerred ani,
or melissa, or ig to
be folk artists and i don't think the girls do either. i know on 1200
curfews amy told an 8-yr-old girl, "if you're attending rock shows at
8 yrs old you're doing really good."

that's my two cents worth.

peace,

barb

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writes:

>  i know on 1200
>  curfews amy told an 8-yr-old girl, "if you're attending rock shows at
>  8 yrs old you're doing really good."

i'm proud to say that my son's first rock show was ig's in 1997...he was 7.
he got to see them last year and again last week in philly. ig are his
favorite! and he's the cutest date i could ever have!

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i've been thinking that tupelo honey would be a great song for ig to
cover.....wish i had been there.....

strangely enough, i just started playing tupelo honey in my coffeehouse sets
this past weekend....anyone for ulee's gold?

peace,
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hi

ive been wondering what does 'and the dog caught up with the rabbit is
laughing hysterically' mean in wat?

thanks

kate

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ok, here's another pass at it:

how about this one: the lyrics are a series of phone conversations between amy
(well, the singer) and "sister"!

sister is pregnant and has just left her abusive husband (in texas) and is
running away from a bad situation, but is unsure about where to run.  she wants
to go back home (in georgia) to her family, but she "come[s] undone every time
[she] go[es] there".  she's so distraught about what to do that she's suicidal.

"sister, i'm heading out of alabama
so you better think fast.
the wind is gonna pick me up now
and the rain won't slack"

first phone call.  amy's on the road herself (from alabama to tennessee),
calling from a _cellular_ phone.  she's about to lose the signal, though,
because of bad weather.

"i'm headed down to georgia
so don't lose track
of where you been and where you're going now"

second phone call.  amy's now on her way back home (from chattanooga) to
georgia.  but sister is also travelling, from texas going east.  sister is
distraught and doesn't know where she is anymore and amy's trying to get her to
focus so she can get a bead on where sister is.

"i know your heart's in danger
and so is your life.
i said you learn to trust a stranger
and stop and rest for the night.
set your site up in the headlight,
the moon won't be enough"

sister is increasingly more distraught as amy talks to her and amy is afraid
that she'll hurt herself.  amy cautions her not to try to make the trip east
non-stop and to stop and rest over night (in natchez).  sister has never been
camping, but amy has and offers advice about the best way to set up a camp site.
but amy is worried about sister passing the night alone so she wants sister to
make human contact and trust someone else at the camp site to help her get
through the night.  if amy is being more literal these days then "light the
embers of another" is merely a reference to another camp site fire, not a sexual
reference.  (sister is _pregnant_, for gosh sakes!)

"there was a bloody beast of burden
on a dark texas road,
a woman in the family way
and a car that lost control."

sister had an accident in texas where she ran over some farmer's milk cow
crossing the road, leaving him with a bloody mess to clean up.  [pet peeve:
technically, a milk cow is not a "beast of burden".  that would be something
like an ox pulling a cart or carrying a load.]

"i'm studying the distance
between the blanket and the gun,
i got ten hours to natchez
and another ten home."

after hearing about this car accident, amy is no longer certain that sister's
fragile mental state will hold up, so she figures she must go get sister and
meet her in natchez and then bring her back home with her.  so amy's figuring
it'll take her 10 hours to get from the security of her home in georgia ("the
blanket" -- sister's frantic call woke amy up from a comfortable sleep) to
suicidal sister in natchez ("the gun" -- sister may take her own life if amy
can't get to her in time).

"i said it's trust that brought me here
and trust will bring me home"

amy has made it to natchez to meet up with sister.  amy was the only one that
sister trusted, hence it's that trust that brought amy to natchez and that trust
will see them home together.

it's a stretch, i know.  but the geographic references -- "out of alabama", then
"down to georgia", then "a dark texas road", then "10 hours to natchez and
another 10 home" -- are tough to synthesize into a cohesive narrative.  i'm sure
it's completely wrong, but it was fun!

ron
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hi everyone!

i know i havn't posted in a while. don't mean to
be a snob, but i've been busy and on vacation
for a few days.

after going to the radio station promotion and
the lowell show,  i got really depressed because
it was all over.  so i did something really impulsive.
i bought my own ticket for mullin center (9th row
- not too bad).  only one problem.  i have no way to get there.  would there
be a group of you going that wouldn't mind taking me along?
i would help you with transportation, etc.

i havn't even told my husband about this so i'm a
bit of a nervous wreck.  if you want to e-mail
privately, we can work something out.  i would
appreciate it.

thanks, i'm keeping my fingies crossed, otherwise
i have to eat the ticket (not litterally)

p.s.  happy belated coming out day to all!

cathy

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>  let us not forget amy's last song about guns. maybe
> that is where she went &
>  "come undone") i think it is a very lonely
> rumination about herself, but the

i have to belive that the idea of coming undone is her
talking about someone not being able to deal with the
thought of being gay...i know i know everything is a
gay issue...but think about it...she is talking here
about someone not being able to deal with thier
feelings for another poerson...and "coming undone"
over it....then again my other flighty thought is that
since this is the secord or is it third song that she
has mentioned the phrase coming undone...maybe she was
just really honored by being mentioned in that
book...she's come undone...tee hee...silly i know...

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>  let us not forget amy's last song about guns.
> maybethat is where she went & "come undone") i think
it is a very lonely rumination about herself, but the


one more thing about the "come undone everytime you go
there".....nancy, joan...think about it...where does
she go and how does she come "undone"....work with me
here guys...tee hee...sorry went out with "freinds"
last night and my mind is in the ol' gutter today...
saw on the edge of 17 last night if you get a chance
go see it...it is about guys but is a great coming of
age story...i loved it...beside lea delaria is one of
the major roles...and she sings in the end...nuff
said...got to get back to work...

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i have two tickets for the show on sat night. they are 7th row center.
i paid $100 for each. i would like to get $100 or best offer.
rickie

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i have two tickets for the show on sat night. they are 7th row center.
i paid $100 for each. i would like to get $100 or best offer.
>>>

1) bear mountain: should never have bought $100 tickets in the first place -
there's tons of offers on the list if you just have some patience.

2) any interested listees: don't buy $100 tickets - there's tons of offers
on the list if you just have some patience.

3) any other listees:  go to shows early, check discussion lists &
newsgroups, and buy ticket's at face value from fellow fans.

;-)

ps: anyone in atlanta or nearby, isn't it just perfect sister weather with
the fog and all -
"the wind is gonna pick me up now
and the rain won't slack..."

a+e=ig

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> ps: anyone in atlanta or nearby, isn't it just
> perfect sister weather with
> the fog and all -
> "the wind is gonna pick me up now
> and the rain won't slack..."

you know that your fav band is getting popular when
weather phenominons are being named after thier
songs...tee hee

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alice--
  there is supposedly a show on dec 3 in eau claire, wi.  i'm working on
confirming it.
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just thought people might be interested in this - it got forwarded to me in
this form, so i'm not sure of the date/validity, although my guess is that
it is true (unfortunately). if you don't know what this is all about, go to
http://www.peoplescampaign.org/

the governor's office has sent out a release announcing that the governor
>>has signed a death warrant for mumia. the execution is set for december 2,

>>1999.
>>
>>leonard weinglass will file on friday of this week.
>>

also, did anybody boot last night's show? that sounds like one to remember:
reunion (on my top five i've never heard live), romeo & juliet, virginia
wooolf, *and* all the new stuff.

sarah

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she must be taking some lessons from rose ;)

><< amy got a bit annoyed because during this beautiful, but quiet,
> >song,some jerk had yelled out a request for galileo.  after the song >was
>over, she said something like, "you know we're going to play >galileo. you
>don't need to yell for it during the quietest song of >the night" >>

>jesus, what sort of trend is starting?

("i think we need a microphone for this table because they obviously want to
be amplified"--rose p., 10/9/98)

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it is true, unfortunately. amy announced it last night just before she sang
faye tucker; i think she said the warrant was signed yesterday. she said
there will be a march in nyc today.

-sue


at 09:51 am 10/14/99 -0400, sarah pinsker wrote:
>just thought people might be interested in this - it got forwarded to me in
>this form, so i'm not sure of the date/validity, although my guess is that
>it is true (unfortunately). if you don't know what this is all about, go to
>http://www.peoplescampaign.org/
>
>the governor's office has sent out a release announcing that the governor
>>>has signed a death warrant for mumia. the execution is set for december 2,
>
>>>1999.
>>>
>>>leonard weinglass will file on friday of this week.
>>>
>
>also, did anybody boot last night's show? that sounds like one to remember:
>reunion (on my top five i've never heard live), romeo & juliet, virginia
>wooolf, *and* all the new stuff.
>
>sarah
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>>>
>
>also, did anybody boot last night's show? that sounds like one to remember:
>reunion (on my top five i've never heard live), romeo & juliet, virginia
>wooolf, *and* all the new stuff.
>
did you say romeo and juliet????? as in they played it *live*??????????
if anyone has this boot, i am definitely interested!!!!!!!!!!!!
please please please please please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-k

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thought that might get your attention....
ok. im typing scenes out for my playwriting class, and after i quit, i
happened to notice on my desktop, which is a collage of ig, curtousy of ms.
beccie lyon, that poor amy has her nose right on top of the little trash can
icon. it looks pretty hilarious. and it's this serious pic. with her eyes
closed, and she's got her nose in the trash can! just wanted to share... hope
y'all have a wonderful day!!!!!!!
=0) -k

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hello,
        is anyone interested in a sealed, autographed swamp ophelia vinyl?
i have 2 of these and decided to sell my other one. these were limited to
like 5000 made. $30 including shipping.
was just wondering if anyone is interested in it?

-heather

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i thought some of you in the bay area might be interested in this.  please
contact ebgb@aol.com for more information.  i'm just forwarding this!

for some limited igc:  i lost my portable cd player for the past few days
with my cons cd inside.  i'm getting a little anxious, and think i might
have to buy another copy.  so that will make 4 different ig cds of which i
have an extra copy or have had to replace for some reason or another.
yikes!

don't forget--ig on the view tomorrow!  :)  now i've just got to figure
out that damn vcr.

kelly
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subject: sf pride committee seeks new voting members


sf pride committee seeks new voting members

   san francisco's lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgender pride parade committee is
seeking new members to help plan pride 2000. youth, bi's, women, leatherfolk
and tg's are especially wanted. the board of directors in particular needs more
women and youth.
   to join the organization, go to www.sfpride.org and follow the web page
instructions about becoming a voting member of the committee.  or you can
contact the committee at 415 864-3791 or sfpride@aol.com.
   the cutoff date for new members to vote in the annual board elections is
november 1st so act today!

yours in pride,

edward goehring
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ps please do forward and repost this message as widely as possible!

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hmm.  methinks some of our interpretations might be troubled by a homonym
problem.

sight:  to see, one's sense of what one receives from one's eyes.

site:  a place, location. as in, campsite.  museum site.  anthropological
site.

cite:  to engage in the behavior of a citation.  as in, i got cited for
speeding.  what book did she cite?

just a little fyi from your friendly writer!

chris ii

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regarding sarah's comments:

yes, mumia execution has been set.  indigo girls made an announcement on the
mumia thing at the show last night.  there is a rally in times square nyc
today.  a friend of mine at the action network in the city has said that ig
was invited to pererform faye tucker at the rally.  given amy's passionate
appeals last night, i think they'll show up before they head over to emily's
sister (elizabeth's) performance of william jefferson.  so....that's 4:30pm
in times square for the rally, there's also going to be a march up broadway
before then.

l'sly


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date:    thu, 14 oct 1999 09:51:45 -0400
from:    sarah pinsker <spinsker@goucher.edu>
subject: mumia & nyc last night

just thought people might be interested in this - it got forwarded to me in
this form, so i'm not sure of the date/validity, although my guess is that
it is true (unfortunately). if you don't know what this is all about, go to
http://www.peoplescampaign.org/


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i assumed that when she said "come undone" she meant
the process you go through when you are going through
a trauma/problem.  after keeping everything bottled up
inside for so long, you eventually "come undone" or
break down.  seems like your world is falling apart.
  sorry to start the day out on such a
morbid/depressing note. lol
  samantha


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so they signed a death warrant for mumia?  not good.  not good at all.  i hope that he will get a stay of execution, and another chance to stand trial...

anyway, on to more fluffy stuff.  so amy played romeo and juliet?  i love hearing that song live.  amy's voice gives me the chills when i hear it live.  coolness.  the setlists y'all are posting sound great!  i wish i could see a fall tour show.  does anyone know if they plan on touring this spring?

this week is midterm week (even studying abroad won't get me outta midterms and finals!  damn!), and as i sit and memorize 200 kanji, i am listening to cons.  i just love that album.  the problem is that i want to sing along!  hummm...maybe i should switch to classical for study time...

anyway, back to the kanji...

:-) karen (who is leaving for hiroshima tomorrow.  talk about hot beds of human rights...)

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i think it's about, you know, when they race dogs, like greyhounds or
whatever, they have it chasing a bunny to get the dogs to run.  it's like
a little stuffed bunny on a track that runs around aheadof the dogs.

chris ii


on thu, 14 oct 1999, kadri saar wrote:

> hi
>
> ive been wondering what does 'and the dog caught up with the rabbit is
> laughing hysterically' mean in wat?
>
> thanks
>
> kate
>
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> mine and the little plastic castle is a surprise every time...'
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ron mcbay wrote:
>(sister is _pregnant_, for gosh sakes!)

pregnant woman have sex!

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hey kind listees...

is anyone planning any sort of listmeet for umass on sat?  do let us know!

~kristen

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this appeared on the newsgroup:

subject: girls in new york times
date: thu, 14 oct 1999 17:50:28 gmt
from:  mattmarcotte@my-deja.com
organization:  deja.com - before you buy.
newsgroups:   alt.music.indigo-girls

new york times ran a short item on the girls this morning:

following is the verbatim text:

the indigo girls--amy ray and emily sailers--were relaxing in a cramping
dressing room after a show at the beacon theatre on tuesday night,
chatting about killing time on the road.  in the next year and a half,
the length of their current tour, they'll have a good deal of time to
kill as they roll across country by bus.

ms. ray, 35, and ms. saliers, 36, have known eah other since childhood
days in georgia.  lately, they've been spending travel time getting to
know their band, which has been with them for just three weeks.  "we
like to have discussions about weird things," ms. ray said.  recent
topics:  moth breeding and being a vegan.  there's also a book club on
board.  "lately, we've all been reading the henry [sic] potter books and
discussing them," ms. sailers said.

there are bunks for sleeping and a vcr (the latest film:  "dial m for
murder"_. a band favorite is going the crossword in pen between the
sound check and when they go.  "if we don't finish it, the minute the
show is over, we're all rushing back on the bus to get back to it," ms.
ray said.


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here is info about protests in baltimore, philly, san francisco, etc.
-sarah

>pennsylvania's governor ridge has signed the death warrant for mumia
abu
jamal

baltimore:
>emergency protest
>
>individuals and groups please join us the friday, october 15, 5 pm
>at saratoga & eutaw streets (which is just north of lexington market
and
>across from the subway)
>
>for more information (410) 235-7040--all peoples congress
>
>
c     i     s     p     e     s  committee in solidarity with the people
of el salvador
action alert


october 14, 1999

stop the execution of mumia abu jamal!
governer ridge signs death warrant
demonstrate to demand justice!

pennsylvania governor ridge has signed mumia's death warrant and set the
execution date for thursday, december 2. leonard weinglass, mumia's
attorney, will file for a stay on friday.

concerted actions immediately and over the next several months are
crucial;
our level of response will affect the outcome. international solidarity
is
essential.

local emergency response demonstrations are being planned around the
country for thursday. regional demonstrations in philadelphia and san
francisco are planned for saturday.

philadelphia, saturday, october 16
11:00: demonstrate at pennsylvania state office building, broad and
spring
streets
more info: international concerned family & friends of mumia  abu-jamal:
215-476-8812
  bus info from nyc: call international action center, 212 633-6646  or
email <iacenter@iacenter.org>; also free mumia coalition hotline, 212
330-8029

san francisco, saturday, october 16
12:00 noon  assemble at powell and market; call mobilization to free
mumia
abu-jamal, 415 695-7745 for time and other info

other local/regional demonstrations will take place. for more info,
updates, etc. contact:
*international concerned family and friends of mumia abu-jamal, 215
476-8812 (philly)
*international action center, 212 633-6646; email
<iacenter@iacenter.org>
(new york)
*free mumia coalition hotline, 212 330-8029 (new york)
*<http://www.mumia.org>
*<http://www.iacenter.org>
*<http://www.peoplescampaign.org>

stop the execution! new trial now! justice for mumia abu-jamal!

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national office: p.o. box 1801, new york, ny 10159 ~ 212-229-1290 3
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she said something like, "you know we're
> going to play >galileo. you
> >don't need to yell for it during the quietest song
> of >the night" >>
>
> >jesus, what sort of trend is starting?
>
> ("i think we need a microphone for this table
> because they obviously want to
> be amplified"--rose p., 10/9/98)

go amy!  go rose!  i hope it embarassed the person who
yelled it, because it should.  a&e probably hear that
kind of stuff all the time.  it's about time these
rude people are singled out and and spotlighted for
the fools they are.

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subject:      nigc - harry potter: way cool

hey all,
if you haven't read them and require evidence beyond the
indigo girls thinking they're great, i'm here to tell you
the harry potter books are wall to wall magic. i've got
friends who are reading them with their kids and know
plenty of old, crusty, jaded burn out folks who love them
, too.

just had to get my $.02 in on that one,
cheers,
kc

> new york times ran a short item on the girls this morning:
>
> following is a tiny bit of the verbatim text:
...<snip>...
there's also a book club on
> board.  "lately, we've all been reading the henry [sic] potter books and
> discussing them," ms. sailers said.

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>go amy!  go rose!  i hope it embarassed the person who
>yelled it, because it should.  a&e probably hear that
>kind of stuff all the time.  it's about time these
>rude people are singled out and and spotlighted for
>the fools they are.

>peace!

>=====
>joan :-d

i submit that shaming a human being contributes to the silent termites that
breakdown societies.  this stuff does count.  it is possible to set a
boundary request.  it's even possible to do it without judging where their
stuff comes from or humiliating them.  there is no such thing as effective
"turn about is fair play".  btw,  i am not flaming you.  please try to hear
this with an open heart because i know you already know this stuff.  just a
reminder.  parker

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subject:      re: audience confrontation

this sort of stuff drives me psycho.

i blame it all on television. people are so oriented
towards watching videos and tv, that when they go out in
public, they treat performances and movies like video -
like they're sitting around in their own living room and
can just babble the whole time.

the screaming is rude and disruptive and egotistical, and
the constant chatter everywhere at public performances is
just obnoxious. drives me nuts.

on the other hand i don't think people really consider
how miserable it is to be exposed to that. i don't think
they're being intentionally rude - just oblivious.

shrug. ah well.
kc
> she said something like, "you know we're
> > going to play >galileo. you
> > >don't need to yell for it during the quietest song
> > of >the night" >>
> >
> > >jesus, what sort of trend is starting?
> >
> > ("i think we need a microphone for this table
> > because they obviously want to
> > be amplified"--rose p., 10/9/98)

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date:         thu, 14 oct 1999 15:08:41 edt
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hey everyone,

morrison_joan@yahoo.com writes: << it's about time these
rude people are singled out and and spotlighted for
the fools they are. >>

to that i would add: stop with the yelling of (in quite moments) "i love you
amy!"  we all love amy and emily, that's why we're there. to yell at the
exclusion of one over the other is rude, annoying, and stupid.

going one step further, don't yell i love you amy during roses performance
(when amy and emily add hamony) it's beyond rude. it's just hurtful.

there i said it, it's been on my mind since stanhope.

peace all
kathleen

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hey y'all,

there's going to be a demonstration for mumia in austin tonight at 5:30.
we're meeting on 11th in front of the capitol.

all out for mumia!
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date:         thu, 14 oct 1999 12:17:54 -0700
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on thu, 14 oct 1999, parker vollmer wrote:

>
> i submit that shaming a human being contributes to the silent termites that
> breakdown societies.  this stuff does count.  it is possible to set a
> boundary request.  it's even possible to do it without judging where their
> stuff comes from or humiliating them.  there is no such thing as effective
> "turn about is fair play".  btw,  i am not flaming you.  please try to hear
> this with an open heart because i know you already know this stuff.  just a
> reminder.  parker

respectfully, there is a difference between good behavior and outright
humilation.  what is being addressed here is the inappropriateness of
people who shout during quiet parts of songs.  it shouldnt be
a humiliation, in the strongest sense of the word that you mention
above, to be told be to be respectful and quiet at certain times
in a concert.  the performer is working, giving her best, her
utmost concentration.  then some idiot shouts out in the middle.
to tell them to be qyuiet isnt about humilation.  it's about resecpt.
i believe that this is what joan really meant.  imho, the people
who shout probabyl arent going to listen to any admonishment anyway.
they dont see anything wrong with what they are doing.  i say
more power to amy et al as well..it happened at the lowell show
last week, and amy was clearly mad abotu the moment.  shouting
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during quiet parts doesnt get you favor or attention.  it just
causes an unnecessary ruckus.


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i've gotten to where i don't even like to go to shows anymore. people don't
ever shut up and are generally being obnoxious...i know you love amy...i love
amy too...i know you love emily...i love her too...and i like romeo and
juliet...and i like galileo, but that doesn't mean i want you yelling it
during the quietest song during their set...

yelling for a&e while they are on stage with someone else is deplorable...

yelling for a&e during the opener is also deplorable..

.i had the misfoturne of standing next to 4 brain damaged, drunk individuals
at the 9:30 club in dc august 98. a&e along with sara lee and a few other
people came out on this balcony off to the side of the stage...well the lame
brains proceeded to yell "we want the indigo girls" during 3 fingered cowboys
set... (besides that they were spilling beer on us, stepping on us and it
basically turned into a shoving match between me and my friends and them..of
course we won, we were sober)

so kids..please for the love of amy and emily, be quiet during the show...you
don't have to whoop and holler and express your adoration...sing along,
dance, clap whatever...but stop being stupid...you're driving everyone nuts...

i for one love it when an artist chastises someone...i got the pleasure of
seeing ms difranco do that at wolf trap one time...it was beautiful :)

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date:         thu, 14 oct 1999 12:37:58 -0700
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> i submit that shaming a human being contributes to
> the silent termites that
> breakdown societies.

i respect your point of view, but disagree.  the kind
of rude behavior that so many people exhibit at ig
shows is disruptive to everyone else's concert
experience, and disrespectful to ig.  that kind of
behavior should be corrected.  if it's not pointed
out, or a&e (or any other artist, for that matter)
never voice their displeasure of it, then it will
continue.  besides that, it's the rude behavior that
is being corrected.  most of the time, the artists
probably don't even see where the comment is coming
from.  a&e suck it up so many times that it is a
little humanizing to see them get annoyed and actually
say something about it.

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hi everyone,

for bay area people:

just wanted to let you know that in honor of national aids awareness
month, the memorial quilt will be on display at the end of the month.
the display will feature more than 1,100 quilt panels and will take
place at the concourse exhibition center, 7th & brannan streets in san
francisco, friday, october 29 - sunday, october 31.  it is the largest
display in more than a decade.

the opening ceremonies are on the 29th at 6pm, the gay men's chorus
will sing along with an address from the mayor.  closing ceremonies are
on the 31st at 5pm and the glide ensemble will perform.  admission is
free!  call 415-882-5500 for more info, or visit the webpage at
http://167.160.195.60/html/news/sfd.htm.

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>a&e suck it up so many times that it is a
>little humanizing to see them get annoyed and actually
>say something about it.

this is very true. i can only imagine how it must feel to be amy and emily
and to know you are going to hear galileo (or i love you amy/emily) yelled
out at an inappropriate moment at the majority of concerts. i was close up
when amy made the comment, "we always sing galileo, you don't need to shout
it out..." after singing or with rose. she looked like she was really
trying to say it firmly/pointedly but respectfully. she doesn't want to
humiliate fans, but this is driving her crazy and she was doing all she
could to say this in a generally positive manner. amy really shows a lot of
grace and dignity in situations like that, i think.

you know, it seems to me that is why we get such beautiful smiles from amy
when the yelling out _doesn't_ happen during a soft or intense musical
moment. picture the end of oziline "what a blessed sky..." - amy's got her
eye's closed and face turned up as the music fades. there is silence from
the crowd until the fade-out, then loud appreciative applause. amy keeps
her eyes closed and just smiles, then looks at the crowd and says, "thanks
for listening". that's the way to show amy you love her.

peace y'all,
sue

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date:         thu, 14 oct 1999 16:12:53 edt
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hey all

i am traveling thru ny and nj at the moment and havent had time to check in
til
today. let me just say that monday at the beacon was so incredible that  i am
spending friday in asbury park...

i have seen them lots of times. this was the best show i've ever been to. this
band kicks ass. they were fabulous. the new stuff is wonderful
live...ozillien blew me away.

i could go on and on but all you need to know is that i have been walking
around all week going...damn, the new stuff is great, i got to hear ghost and
amy wore the tanktop...it's like the trifecta...

also, if you have any doubt about them breaking up etc...catch a show...they
look more together than ever and looser and like they are having a blast...

i hope this cd starts to generate some buzz...(does anyone know how it is
doing on the charts)....

they really deserve it...cant
wait til tomorrow.
be well,
lisa
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date:         thu, 14 oct 1999 13:45:27 pdt
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hey all--
i just wanted to say thanks to all those who supplied me with info about
contacting russel carter.  i'm waiting to hear from them.  keep your fingers
crossed for me, please :)

--peace,
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date:         thu, 14 oct 1999 13:59:42 -0700
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hey all!

at the library today i found a book called crossed
over by beverly lowry.  it is about faye tucker and
the murders.  i checked it out but have yet to
starting reading.  it looks like the writer is in some
way involved with the case.

after 3 nights of ig in nyc i thought this would be a
great way to learn more about one of my fav "new"
songs!

more later on my reaction to nyc once it has all set
in!

babs: who need a huge nap!

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i went to the star trek website today and noticed they
have periodic online chats with various people
associated with star trek. they are sheduled for a
certain time and fans can go online at the same time
and have their questions answered live..

does anyone know of any e-magazine with a similar
setup that might be willing to corral the indigo girls
into an online chat? that way we could put to rest all
our nagging questions like the milk cow and the sister
:-)
i know half of the fun is guessing but there's some
satisfaction in actually knowing too. any ideas?

jack/jon/turtle
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(btw, this is shanie . . . other mail account's screwed, so i signed up
from here.)

my thoughts . . . i doubt that amy's reprimand was meant to be hurtful.  it
really is damn rude when people do that--last september, at a tori amos
concert here in l.a., someone screamed out "i want to have your baby!"
during tori's intro to "me and a gun."  which was about the worst possible
timing in the world for that.

it made me cringe.  it really did.  it bothers me greatly that people do
things like disrupt the quiet moments of a set that way; it *is*
inconsiderate to the other concertgoers, disrespectful to the performers,
and just plain irritating all around.  i don't blame amy for saying what
she did.

battle on,
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i recognize the absolute inappropriateness of yelling out song requests in
the middle of quiet, peaceful moments in the set (especially for songs you
know they are going to play!).  i was wondering, however, if there is an
appropriate time to try and let amy and emily know you really want to hear
something, or is that disrespectful/bad concert etiquette?  i haven't been
to that many concerts (this will be my 3rd ig and about 8th concert ever),
so i don't know.  the last thing i want to do is disrespect my girls or piss
them off.  thanks!

melissa.

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my kids are reading them now, maybe i should be next!

bonnie (still happy to be back)

kristen curry wrote:

> hey all,
> if you haven't read them and require evidence beyond the
> indigo girls thinking they're great, i'm here to tell you
> the harry potter books are wall to wall magic. i've got
> friends who are reading them with their kids and know
> plenty of old, crusty, jaded burn out folks who love them
> , too.
>
> just had to get my $.02 in on that one,
> cheers,
> kc
>
> > new york times ran a short item on the girls this morning:
> >
> > following is a tiny bit of the verbatim text:
> ...<snip>...
> there's also a book club on
> > board.  "lately, we've all been reading the henry [sic] potter books and
> > discussing them," ms. sailers said.
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melissa--
  it is my personal opinion that there is never an appropriate time to yell
requests.  the girls spend a good amount of time working out a setlist that
they feel is good fot that night's show.  it it's on the list they'll play
it, if it's not they won't.
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haven't people been successful with making signs with their requests and
holding them up when they might get noticed? seems this is a non-intrusive
way to get your point across.

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>i recognize the absolute inappropriateness of yelling out song requests in
>the middle of quiet, peaceful moments in the set (especially for songs you
>know they are going to play!).  i was wondering, however, if there is an
>appropriate time to try and let amy and emily know you really want to hear
>something, or is that disrespectful/bad concert etiquette?

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for those who live in the windy city, i heard xrt plays trouble today!! i was
so excited. the dj seemed to be proud of himself, and said something like "i
bet this is the first time you hear that". there's hope for chicago's
stations afterall.

by the way, can anyone tell me who's mumia abu-jamal? sorry for this stupid
question.

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someone mentioned about getting the ig's into a chat group and if there was an e-magazine out there to do it. actually it wouldn't be hard to do it "ourselves", if you had their co-operation.

if some-one out in listland is (or could soon be) an operator of a chat group, they could put it together. and if some-one could contact a+e with the idea, and they want to, then all you'd need is some secure id's for a + e, and give them the addy. you could go as far as moderating it, having people submit questions for the ig's to answer. actually you could conduct the whole thing with ig over the phone, with someone scribing their comments.

there are lots of ways to do it. if a + e are agreeable.

i got most of these ideas by listening in on a few of the jeri ryan chats, she has a dedicated fan page, with a chat group, in which she has her own id so that she can chat if she wants to... of course she is willing, i dunno how we can convince a + e...

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hey y'all,
i'm finally getting to listen to cons a bit more (i've
been so caught up with performing & work these last
coupla weeks that i haven't had time... sad, eh?) and
i loveitloveitloveit! much better than sots, & i like
sots. even the songs i don't particularly love (peace
tonight, we are together, andy) have redeeming
qualities. in we are together, for example, the line
that's been getting some attention here- "the dog
caught up with the rabbit is laughing hysterically"-
is such a good description of what it's like when
you're in a long distance relationship & you get to
see each other after a long time. especially if one of
you has been travelling around a lot (um... touring
even) and the other feels like they'll never catch up
to their love... there's a feeling of "now that i've
got you, what am i supposed to do with you?" (did
anyone see the "roadrunner" episode where wile e
coyote actually catches the roadrunner? of course,
through the magic of cartoons the bird is about 8'
tall & wec is a few inches tall, so he doesn't know
what to do.) so, then there's a minute when you're
just laughing hysterically, cuz you've both thought
about this moment for so long, & now that it's here it
doesn't seem quite real. but then you're together,
*finally*, and you can get down to business. ;) oooh,
hannah will be here in less than 2 weeks! :)

sister is so amazing... i'm definitely with the
camping interpretation for the "set your site up in
the headlight..." verse, picturing amy setting up her
tent with the light from the moon & her one motorcycle
headligt reflecting off the light drizzle, someone
asking her for some coals from her fire to light their
own, making human connection...

at my show on tues opening for pamela means (who has
to be one of the sweetest performers ever, not to
mention one of the most kickin' guitar players) on
tues, i finally got my tix for the claremont show that
some friends of friends at pomona got for me. one in
row j, one in row r... hmmm, we'll hafta work on that.
still, i'm so excited! i haven't seen the girls since
newport last year. the show went really well, btw. i
played mariana for the 1st time in front of a crowd, &
it was well recieved. pamela rocked.
peace,
arjuna
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my two shillings...

first of all the people shouting aren't nessecarily
evil audience members, it may be their first indigo
girls concert or whatever and they are just excited
and riled up from seeing the girls playing live and
perhaps anxious that they wont get to hear their
favorite song. a concert is supposed to be an
emotional event and good manners and logic sometimes
get forgotten in the context of high emotion. given
that, i do agree that the behavior was annoying and
amy's reaction was certainly undestandable and even
justified.

however, that's all it was, a reaction. in tuesday
nights show for example, she made her speil when there
was only one song left anyway and a loud one to boot
so its not like it made any difference. and you've got
to admit having a really quiet song during the encore
was just asking for it!

since it seems to be a continuing problem ig should be
proactive instead of reactive. maybe have the mc at
the beginning of the show announce that there will be
a special time during the show for songs requests and
to therefore please not shout suring the quiet songs.
and since people seemed worried about gallileo maybe
even an announcement that it will get play time would
be in order...

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hey y'all ~
  i'm heading down to atlanta tomorrow!  woo hoo!  a mecca of sorts, eh?  i
haven't been to georgia since i was five, and that was savannah, and all i
remember is the pirate resturaunt where i got a shirley temple in a
boot-shaped glass, and the carraige tour we took where they talked about real
life ghost busters...
*ehem*
  anyhow, so i'm going to look at emory, but figured while we were down
there, my father and i could pop into em's watershed resturaunt.  um, where
is it?  also, what are some other must see sites?  not much talk on the list
anymore about rainy day records -- is it worth popping in?  is it even still
there?  i don't know a blessed thing!   please e-mail me with suggestions,
info, etc!

dreaming of atlanta, on a drizzly new england autum day...
~ elizabeth

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-------- original message --------
subject: patriot center transcript/tapes?
date: thu, 14 oct 1999 11:02:17 -0400
from: michael bracy <mbracy@bracywilliams.com>
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organization: bracy williams & company

this is michael bracy with the low power radio coalition in
washington dc.

we've been working with amy and emily on the low power radio
issue, and have launched a concert series called left off
the dial:  10 days for low power fm.

amy made a great speech about lpfm from the stage at the
patriot center show on friday, 10/8.  do you think anyone on
the list would either have a tape of the show or be able to
transcribe what she said?  i'd love to post her speech to
our website (www.lowpowerradio.org) for others to read.

thanks,
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at the milwaukee suff. sessions concert, the audience was incredably rude.
a group in the back kept screaming "sing romeo and juliet." this really
pissed amy off. she kept sort of grimacing at them and saying "no. no,
that's not on our setlist" finally they yelled "we want the indigo girls"
during (i think) lisa germano's song, and amy (who had been facing away
from the audience and adjusting her guitar)  turned around, scowled at them
and flipped them off. (i thought that was great!)
as far as when is an appropriate moment to yell out, later on in the show,
right before they launched into "go" there was a pause while ig adjusted,
tuned, etc. and i yelled "we love all of you." i was rewarded with w/ a big
emily grin which lasted for at least 45 seconds, and amy looking up from
her guitar and pointing her finger at me, smiling and nodding.
really though, i felt like i had to apologize for all of milwaukee.

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hey, gang...

1)    it's rude to yell; (especially "freebird")

2)    amy utilized performers' prerogative.  someone is rude to you; slam
'em back.

i.e.  someone yelled something at emily (during a quiet song, like "love's
recovery") some time ago and i believe, in her most sweet voice replied,
"fuck you".

3)    can we end this thread, por favor?

gracias!

melissa

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> haven't people been successful with making signs with their requests and
> holding them up when they might get noticed? seems this is a non-intrusive
> way to get your point across.
>
> -----original message-----
>
> >i recognize the absolute inappropriateness of yelling out song requests
in
> >the middle of quiet, peaceful moments in the set (especially for songs
you
> >know they are going to play!).  i was wondering, however, if there is an
> >appropriate time to try and let amy and emily know you really want to
hear
> >something, or is that disrespectful/bad concert etiquette?
>
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yikes!


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thanks melissa.

hey gang,  get the feeling we're preaching to the choir here?

thanks for the comments, but i don't think anyone on this list is the
type that needs to hear this stuff.

jean

--- melissa gordon <melissa@ce1.com> wrote:
> hey, gang...
>
> 1)    it's rude to yell; (especially "freebird")
>
> 2)    amy utilized performers' prerogative.  someone is rude to you;
> slam
> 'em back.
>
> i.e.  someone yelled something at emily (during a quiet song, like
> "love's
> recovery") some time ago and i believe, in her most sweet voice
> replied,
> "fuck you".
>
> 3)    can we end this thread, por favor?
>
> gracias!
>
> melissa
>
> ----- original message -----
> from: ryan blackhawke <hawke2@msn.com>
> to: <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
> sent: thursday, october 14, 1999 2:29 pm
> subject: re: audience confrontation/song requests
>
>
> > haven't people been successful with making signs with their
> requests and
> > holding them up when they might get noticed? seems this is a
> non-intrusive
> > way to get your point across.
> >
> > -----original message-----
> >
> > >i recognize the absolute inappropriateness of yelling out song
> requests
> in
> > >the middle of quiet, peaceful moments in the set (especially for
> songs
> you
> > >know they are going to play!).  i was wondering, however, if there
> is an
> > >appropriate time to try and let amy and emily know you really want
> to
> hear
> > >something, or is that disrespectful/bad concert etiquette?
> >
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>hey all,
>if you haven't read them and require evidence beyond the
>indigo girls thinking they're great,

just got done reading the third book.  i love them all and i don't have
kids, work with kids, or claim to know anything about children's books.
they're well written and very enjoyable to read.  better than any of the
mysteries that i've read recently!  :)

lisa

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because i know you're all dying for an update....
  the rumors are true, ladies and gentlemen -- today i learned how to play
the mandolin and figured out the portion of johnny rotten that appears on
cons.
  but i need your help.
  yes, *your* help!  someone needs to supply me with a recording of the whole
song so i may complete my transcription.  sending me bootlegs, you see, will
help humanity at large.  (also, it couldn't hurt my grade in music workshop.
"see, mrs reihmeyer, i found a recording on my own time."  extra credit!  woo
hoo!)
  *ehem*
  also, if anyone out there plays the mandolin and would care to share some
helpful tips (say, on reaching that horrible g chord... ech!  my pinkies were
not made to stretch at all like that!), feel free to e-mail 'em on over.
  god, i love the list.
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well, i actually live in the sf bay area, but i'm driving down for the nov
5th show.  my gf, my sisters and i don't know the area, but we would like to
meet some fellow listees...anyone who is interested lemme know, and maybe we
can pull something together :)
thanks, cindy

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hey...

*neil may, as usual, be playing devil's advocate in some parts 'cause it's
fun...*

>by the way, can anyone tell me who's mumia abu-jamal? sorry for this stupid
>question.

he's a former journalist (?) who killed philadelphia police officer daniel
faulkner in the early 80s. if i remember correctly, office faulkner had
pulled over his brother at the time and a scuffle ensued.

(mumia wasn't his name at the time, he changed it later. not that that's
particularly relavent).

his guilt is pretty much established. in addition there was a recent story
on an admission he made while in prison.

which begs the question: if you believe someone guilty , but are strongly
against the death penalty, how can you, in good concience, join with the
people who don't want him dead when they have the slogan 'free *name*'?

neil
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the new breed'; bo diddley 'the chess box'
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i think it's all pretty plain and simple.
you're going to have some good apples
and some bad.  so i say we ignore and
move on.  not worry about the little things.


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"i blame it all on television. people are so oriented
towards watching videos and tv, that when they go out in
public, they treat performances and movies like video -
like they're sitting around in their own living room and
can just babble the whole time."

as a former theatre major who knows what it is like to have people talking
during performances--and, as a current member of the tv industry--i don't
think it can all be blamed on tv.

i think it has a lot to do with our society's becoming too used to getting
things fast and when they want it--tv can be blamed for some of it, as can
the internet...but, plain bad manners are a fact of upbringing...

is there an answer?  who knows...."children will listen...."  let's start
teaching the next generation how to sit through a 2 hour play and through a
lovely song--without talking or screaming.

it's a start, anyhow.

claudia

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difference what people think or what they believe.  there are some things,
after all, that sally owens knows for certain:  always throw spilled salt
over your left shoulder.  keep rosemary by your garden gate.  add pepper to
your mashed potatoes.  plant roses and lavender, for luck.  fall in love
whenever you can."

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just a note:  i have heard from the people who arrange the showings of the
quilt.  apparently the entire quilt won't be displayed again this
century...of course, we are at the end of this century.

they are running out of room for the entire quilt to be displayed at
once...hope they find a facility large enough soon.

claudia

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difference what people think or what they believe.  there are some things,
after all, that sally owens knows for certain:  always throw spilled salt
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your mashed potatoes.  plant roses and lavender, for luck.  fall in love
whenever you can."

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date:         thu, 14 oct 1999 19:44:32 edt
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subject:      ig/macbeth connection
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ok, we're reading macbeth in my senior english class and for those literary
buffs out there/and those who aren't, macbeth's most famous lines in the play
are:

tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow
creeps in this petty pace from day to day
to the last syllable of recorded time
and all our yesterdays have lighted fools
the way to dusty death.  out, out, brief candle
life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
that struts and frets his hour upon the stage
and then is heard no more.  it is a tale
told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
signifying nothing.

any of that sound familiar??  the first time i read it something clicked in
my head that part of it was in an ig song and i started to have lyrics
running through my head but couldn't connect it b/c i had to keep up in
class.  but today i re-read it and it clicked!!!  i'm sure the expression on
my face was priceless......but check this out:

"some will strut and some will fret
see this an hour on the stage
others will not but they'll sweat
in their hopelessness and their rage
we're all the same, the men of anger
and the women of the page"

ok that was my ig moment for the day....i was so excited to have a good one,
to me at least!

off to write 2 papers for said english class,
:p
tina

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