lifeblood: listlogs: 1999-10e


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date:         thu, 28 oct 1999 20:15:49 -0400
reply-to:     debbie woodell <woodeld@phillynews.com>
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from:         debbie woodell <woodeld@phillynews.com>
subject:      re: sigc / fan club, melissa

lisa wrote,
melissa seems very very commercial now and ig don't...so maybe mailing
        i don't want to start a round of melissa-bashing, because i like the new record, but geez, she couldn't include lyrics?
deb

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date:         fri, 29 oct 1999 10:21:27 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the newsgroup...

-sherlyn

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>from: runa@earthling.net
>subject: indigo girls items for sale
>date: thu, 28 oct 1999 07:53:48 gmt
>
>i have the following cds for sale:
>
>shades of indigo (orange cover)
>nothing to hide
>levees that break in my heart - early recording volume 2
>bds featuring michelle malone - redemption dream - 11 songs and 4 live
tracks including cortez the killer with indigo
>girls (11 minutes long). this album is the exclusive dutch release.
>cd-single  k'choice - wanna meet the man promo with indigo girls live
rockin' in the free world (neil young cover).
>
>these are not cd-r.
>if you are interested please email me with your offer.
>
>cj
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date:         thu, 28 oct 1999 09:10:32 -0700
reply-to:     lori collins <loricollins@yahoo.com>
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from:         lori collins <loricollins@yahoo.com>
subject:      philosophy of loss thread
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> >  it's difficult to understand why "philosophy
> >  of loss" was tacked on as a hidden
> >  track; loaded with inane, schoolgirl
> >  sentiments, it's saliers' worst song yet.

> hello??? was he not paying any blooming attention to
> em's lyrics.  yes they're rimey but they are
> meaningful.

>from my first listen, this song has bothered me. not
the whole song, mind you, just the lines:

  "yeah but who made this noise? just a bunch of boys.
   and the one with the most toys wins."

she's leaving herself open for negative reviews when
she includes cliches in her songs. it is as if she
didn't want to put much effort into that song. it was
a very cheap line. frankly, she should have left off
that song, perfected it, and included it on another
cd. i don't expect emily to write and/or record a line
of such poor quality. i belive that is her worst line
ever.

and to take it a step further, in my opinion, this
album contains her weakest material. it isn't as good
of an album for her as was, for example, so.

lori


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date:         thu, 28 oct 1999 19:26:04 -0600
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subject:      re: help! emu show
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nobody on emu's campus i've talked to about the show even know who indigo
girls are.  everyone i ask says, 'indigo who?'  i'm making my phone calls
tomorrow to campus life and a friend of mine in the ticket office at the
convo center -- i'll post when i find out.

... melanie

>i thought i read in the paper that they go on sale on nov 13th, which i
>think is late.....
>i suppose i coul;d call the convo center.....
>no body on campus seems to know either.....
>carol
>
>****
>alright, does anyone know where tix go on sale for the dec. 10 show at
>eastern michigan (like who is selling them)?  i know they go on sale this
>saturday, but i saw nothing on the ticketmaster site.  help is greatly
>appreciated.
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date:         thu, 28 oct 1999 18:27:21 -0700
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from:         ryan blackhawke <hawke2@email.msn.com>
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i will be more than happy to not hear ctf as the closer at the two shows i'm
going to. after hearing it as the closer for the unpteenth time, it makes
the convert feel formulaic or something. i just hope i don't have to hear
galileo as the closer for the umpteenth time now.

> -----original message-----
> actually, what disturbed me was that we are seeing a frightening
> trend toward
> closer to fine not closing the show... anyone have any insights?

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date:         thu, 28 oct 1999 21:29:13 edt
reply-to:     mcknazzy@aol.com
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from:         cindy marie <mcknazzy@aol.com>
subject:      re: philosophy of loss thread
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yeah well, emily had a hard year, and nobody is perfect...she's still a
genius in my book, and i don't care if she slacks off a little bit.

cindy :)

"i was born under the sign of cancer..." --emily saliers

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date:         thu, 28 oct 1999 21:42:38 edt
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subject:      vh-1 concert of the century (right now)
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is on right now... on vh-1.. lots of famous artists.. bb king just played
with melissa etheridge.. just thought i'd let everyone know.. sheryl crowe
performed and now garth brooks is there.. something about "save the music"
benefit...
enjoy
trooper :)
9:45 eastern time...

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date:         thu, 28 oct 1999 22:28:52 -0400
reply-to:     "excuse me miss, your cynical is showing.."
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subject:      re: help! emu show
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i just talked to my friend who works in the ticket office at the emu convo
center, and she said tickets for the ig show in ypsilanti on 12/10/99 go
on sale this saturday.  the convo center is only taking walk-ups and won't
sell tickets by phone.  the tickets are also going to be available through
tm charge-by-phone.

i'm preparing for the worst, because tickets for metallica/ted nugent/kid
rock also go on sale this weekend.. and up here in saginaw, that's a big
deal.  bleh.

oh, i can also tell you there really isn't a bad seat at the new convo
center.. i just graduated from there in april, and even 30 - 40 rows back
on the floor, i could see really well.

.. melanie
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date:         thu, 28 oct 1999 22:56:43 -0400
reply-to:     hicktruckdriver <dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu>
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subject:      re: vh-1 concert of the century (right now)
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on thu, 28 oct 1999, <erin tripp> wrote:

> is on right now... on vh-1.. lots of famous artists.. bb king just played
> with melissa etheridge..

   oooh...damn that cable company for realizing that they had forgotten to
turn off my jack and revoking the cable we had all year!!!
   what did they play?

   darius

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date:         thu, 28 oct 1999 23:55:03 edt
reply-to:     gecie@aol.com
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subject:      austin show/oct 27th
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if you were one of the kind friends in section c, row 4, near seats 5 & 6 who
generously offered to allow my 9 yr old daughter morgan to stand on your
chair or take your seat to see better or even sit up on your shoulders~~~
thank you from both of us!  she is still ecstatically high from her first
indigo experience & we'd like to know who you were if you're on the list.  (
:

wasn't it incredible???

gecie

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date:         fri, 29 oct 1999 00:21:03 -0600
reply-to:     melissa genevieve young <mgy@burgoyne.com>
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i think this song has kind of a self-mocking tone, like emily is well aware
of how "schoolgirl" the sentiments are.  i think em uses the cliches and
pedestrian objections to religion as (a) an invitation to look closer, or
(b) a caricature.  it's too damn late for me to be thinking about this
stuff, anybody else want to build on this?

melissa.

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date:         fri, 29 oct 1999 01:14:05 -0500
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subject:      fwd: re: "doing it for the money" (was re: rcam and the "fan
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huh ho! lol.......sheese  this is great!! we got two topics out of one
subject.  i know it sounds dumb. but  boy i'm sure having fun with this
one, reading all the responses,  it's great being
on this list.  i think this will be a great antidote
for the winter in minnesota.

i  had a fall last january, reinjured my ankle, and  went twelve weeks
in twocasts, interspersed with a 2-week interlude where i was free  from
all that, an d, was getting a life again,
until doctor says,"well it's still not healed and we'll have to do
surgery." by  then it was  march, going on april,  and i have never
really
fully recoverred.  i still have incredible swelling,
and now the cold is here,  i  hope arthritis isn't
setting in.  the surgery was supposed to prevent that but i'm getting a
stiffness.

i have a feelng that it won't be easy getting around  (sigh) eeewww
bohhhhhhhhy!!!

oh well,  wht i'm most afraid of is another fall
this winter. i got cleets, i sure hope they work.
i may not fall often, but when i do i make sure
it's thorough job ambulence and all.  yikes.

thanks for  l istening

barb :-)


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date:         thu, 28 oct 1999 22:12:47 edt
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have two extra tickets to the 11/299 show at the bridges auditorium in
claremont.  orchestra.  anybody interested?

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date:         fri, 29 oct 1999 07:33:58 -0400
reply-to:     carrie knepp <indigo4me@webtv.net>
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i think this was fantastic.  it just goes to show what kind of fans ig
truly has...hope you rdaughter enjoyed the show...
  peace and love,
          carrie

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date:         fri, 29 oct 1999 08:08:52 edt
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hi everyone,

i have five (5) extra general admission tickets for sale for the thursday,
december 16th ig show at the tabernacle, in atlanta ga.      they are $36
each (which is the price of the ticket, along with the normal tm charges).
we got a little overzealous in the ticket purchase and didn't need quite as
many as we thought.

i have these tickets in hand, and can send them out right away to whomever is
interested.   serious requests only please!

thanks!
lisa

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date:         fri, 29 oct 1999 09:06:10 -0400
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i am always very interested in hearing about the girls.  if, there is
anyone from atlanta who could get me a copy of the article about daemon
in creative loafing and send it to me email me privately to set up
arrangements.  i will be of course willig to pay for shipping.  thanks

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date:         fri, 29 oct 1999 08:15:03 -0500
reply-to:     sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu>
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"excuse me miss, your cynical is showing.." wrote:
>
> i spent most of the evening on the phone and online trying to figure out
> if tickets for the emu show were on sale this weekend.. and since i
> finally did find out, i figured i'd post for you all in case anyone needed
> this info and didn't have it.
>
> it's good to have a friend in the ticket office at the convo center. : )
>
> tickets for the 12/10/99 show in ypsilanti, mi go on sale this saturday,
> 10am and all that standard stuff.  the convo center itself is only taking
> walkups and will not take phone orders.  ticketmaster is selling
> charge-by-phone and i'm not sure about any other method..
>
> floor rows 1-12 are $35 and the seats get cheaper from there on out, down
> to $20.  i just graduated from there in april, and have to say that there
> aren't too many bad seats in the place .. even 30 or so rows back on the
> floor and i could see governor engler better than i'd ever wanted. ; )
>
> yay!  ig at my alma mater. : )
>
> .. melanie
> ~*~
> whatever has happened to anyone else
> could happen to you and to me
> and the end of my youth was the possible truth
> that it all happens randomly.
>                         -- e.s.
> melanie * raincloud@partlycloudy.com
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date:         fri, 29 oct 1999 07:31:51 -0700
reply-to:     dawn manuel <venussage@yahoo.com>
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the girls were wonderful last night.  here is a review i found in the
dallas morning news.  very favorable.  amy remarked how "you never know
if anyone will show up" in dallas.  the girls have no airplay here.
anyway, here is the review.


blue streak
indigo girls concert tears off 'folk' label

10/29/99

by thor christensen / the dallas morning news

amy ray instructed thursday night's crowd at the bronco bowl to dial up
their local radio station, request an indigo girls song, and then
scream "girls rock!" into the phone.

for a bit of between-song banter, it was also a perfect summation of
the indigos' hard-driving performance. while the duo generally gets
typecast as "folk rock," ms. ray and emily saliers did everything in
their power to play down the former and the crank up the latter.

and it worked like a charm, starting with "go," the hell-raising
show-opener from the group's new come on now social cd. with its
fuzzed-out guitar and pile-driving beat, "go" could pass for some lost
pearl jam gem, and ms. ray delivered it with the perfect grunge-rocking
gusto, slamming her fist onto her guitar neck and wailing with abandon.

the duo kicked out the jams again on the uber-punky "compromise" -
sounding a bit like the ramones this time - and breathed new fire into
old rockers such as "come on over now." and even the mellower
banjo-mandolin tunes grew teeth: "trouble," another new song, was
bluegrass at its heaviest, while "shame on you" boasted some snarling
power chords.

while the indigos started dabbling in harder styles years ago, this
headfirst dive into rock was a welcome twist. for one, it kept them
away from some of their more gooey love tunes (though they did sneak in
"power of two").

but more important, it gave ms. ray the ideal outlet for her raspy,
howitzer-like voice. instead of over.singing the ballads - as she often
did in the past - she toned down her voice on the slow tunes and saved
the decibels for the rockers.

ms. ray and ms. saliers still sing some of the prettiest harmonies this
side of the everlys, as they showed with "closer to fine," the song
that launched their careers 10 years ago. but it wouldn't be an indigo
girls show without tons of vocal help from the crowd, as well.

during "kid fears," another decade-old tune, the crowd filled in
perfectly for michael stipe, who sang co-lead on the recording. and
even though come on now social came out just a few weeks ago, the
audience seemed to know every word to every song.

radio stations might be ignoring the band's new cd. but as long as
their fans stay as rabid as the ones at the bronco bowl were, the
indigos should be around for another decade or two.


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date:         fri, 29 oct 1999 09:28:45 -0500
reply-to:     sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu>
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subject:      cons review from...malaysia?
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copyright 1999 new straits times press (malaysia) berhad
                                         new straits times (malaysia)

                                            october 27, 1999

section: arts tracks; pg. 4

length: 939 words

headline: rustic indigo girls

byline: reviewed by r.s murthi

body:
   rock/pop
indigo girls - come on now social (epic/57:28/i): the indigo girls, amy
ray and emily saliers, are probably the most consistently intriguing
singer-songwriter duos to have come out of the folk-rock revival of the
late '80s.

here they are with album number seven for epic, a musically exuberant
and swirling, lyrically fresh and surging collection of songs that deal
with the comforts and complications of life, feminist concerns and the
uneasy relationship between mankind and the environment.

ray and saliers harmonise through the songs so naturally and with such
precision that you'd think that's what they've been doing all their lives;
and indeed, they have.

but while much of the album's charm lies in their voices soaring
blissfully together, the contrast in their registers during the solo
stretches also makes for a varied mood. ray's gutsy alto is perfect for
such rocking pieces as go and compromise while saliers' delicate soprano
is exquisitely evocative on the achingly beautiful ballad soon be to
nothing and the midtempo hum-dinger peace tonight.

the songs just roll along with a natural swing, enhanced by lilting
mandolins, guitars, accordions and banjos. at times it all gets so richly
rustic that if you close your eyes, you'll be transported to the kind of
green heaven that, thanks to mass-development advocates, now exists mainly
in your imagination.

guests like luscious jackson, me'shell ndegeocello and garth hudson and
rick danko of the band support the girls with a great generosity of spirit
and inspiration.

the closer, faye tucker, based on the true story of karla faye tucker
who upon her execution last year became the first woman to be sentenced to
death in the state of texas since the civil war, is a real stirrer. with
its celtic martial rhythm and ray's powerful rumination on mortality, the
song just mesmerises, and the wordless vocals of natacha atlas towards the
end is seductively eerie.

the two hidden tracks that come after that are also delicious, the first
in a dark, haunting way and the second in a graceful, soothing manner.

come on now social is without a doubt one of the finest folk-rock
recordings of the year, if not this decade.
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i agree with melissa!  pol is so sarcastic!  i mean, she's so angry throughout
the song (and throughout all of cons, really, i think) but it just comes
through in little rays of sarcasm.  anyone who reviews the girls and knows
anything at all about them, knows that em is a fantastic guitar player and
songwriter, and i think it's the simplicty and almost the nursey-ryhmesque tune
in pol that lets her anger show through.
to top it off, i'm a die-hard amy person, but these bashes at em are too much,
and unfounded!

nancy

melissa genevieve young wrote:

> i think this song has kind of a self-mocking tone, like emily is well aware
> of how "schoolgirl" the sentiments are.  i think em uses the cliches and
> pedestrian objections to religion as (a) an invitation to look closer, or
> (b) a caricature.  it's too damn late for me to be thinking about this
> stuff, anybody else want to build on this?
>
> melissa.

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you can find the review here:

<http://www.uniontrib.com/news/utarchives/cgi/idoc.cgi?506521+unix++www.unio
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album reviews | pop/folk


troy johnson
28-oct-1999 thursday

indigo girls, come on now social

come on now social
indigo girls
epic

* * * 1/2

the indigo girls have successfully redeemed mainstream's affected
impression of folk music. with their seventh full release, amy ray and
emily saliers have taken the engine apart, replaced parts and overhauled
their seminal sound.

their previous release was hindered by an overambitious new, gruff sound.
in contrast, "social" is like a homecoming dinner, with a lazy susan of
their influences, not the least of which is the contemplative yearning they
originally championed. opening with the gutsy, machinistic "go," they
casually recede into pastoral, "friends of flannel" numbers like "gone
again" and "peace tonight."

no indigo artifact would be complete without the pulpit, and their
conscientious lyrics have a history of overshadowing the music. but the
pamphlet thumping is unobtrusive this time, which frees them to revisit
their talent for salt-of-the-earth rhapsody.
-- troy johnson
the indigo girls perform sunday at sdsu's open air theatre.
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okay, i'm an avid emily person...  and i love "trouble" from cons.  i just
melt every time i hear her sing this line:

a hurricane flag flappin' in a bad storm
same color of the spider underneath my nail that bit me in my dream

she sounds sooooo cute when she sings the "bit me in my dream" part.


do people like her better as a blonde or red head?  i loved the way she
looked in the 10 years underground (?) video.

oh, the joys of gorgeous soft butch women!!

peace, pride and happy halloween!!
- jen mek

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i just ordered my tickets for the columbus show!  woo-hoo!!  plus, i
ordered a couple of tickets for my 2 best friends as birthday/chirstmas
gifts.  what could be better than the gift of ig?


tami

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hey guys,

here's the url for the creative loafing article about
daemon, et al.:

http://loaf.ilcnet.com/scripts/oneweb.nl.cla?page=article&uid=ktkuuviqa5264mgrjfg2&333=6299

i would have pasted the article, but it is too long,
plus there are some small photos.

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>>guests like luscious jackson, me'shell ndegeocello and garth hudson
and
rick danko of the band support the girls with a great generosity of
spirit
and inspiration.<<

luscious jackson?  which track is she on?

jean

--- sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:
> copyright 1999 new straits times press (malaysia) berhad
>                                          new straits times (malaysia)
>
>                                             october 27, 1999
>
> section: arts tracks; pg. 4
>
> length: 939 words
>
> headline: rustic indigo girls
>
> byline: reviewed by r.s murthi
>
> body:
>    rock/pop
> indigo girls - come on now social (epic/57:28/i): the indigo girls,
> amy
> ray and emily saliers, are probably the most consistently intriguing
> singer-songwriter duos to have come out of the folk-rock revival of
> the
> late '80s.
>
> here they are with album number seven for epic, a musically exuberant
> and swirling, lyrically fresh and surging collection of songs that
> deal
> with the comforts and complications of life, feminist concerns and
> the
> uneasy relationship between mankind and the environment.
>
> ray and saliers harmonise through the songs so naturally and with
> such
> precision that you'd think that's what they've been doing all their
> lives;
> and indeed, they have.
>
> but while much of the album's charm lies in their voices soaring
> blissfully together, the contrast in their registers during the solo
> stretches also makes for a varied mood. ray's gutsy alto is perfect
> for
> such rocking pieces as go and compromise while saliers' delicate
> soprano
> is exquisitely evocative on the achingly beautiful ballad soon be to
> nothing and the midtempo hum-dinger peace tonight.
>
> the songs just roll along with a natural swing, enhanced by lilting
> mandolins, guitars, accordions and banjos. at times it all gets so
> richly
> rustic that if you close your eyes, you'll be transported to the kind
> of
> green heaven that, thanks to mass-development advocates, now exists
> mainly
> in your imagination.
>
> guests like luscious jackson, me'shell ndegeocello and garth hudson
> and
> rick danko of the band support the girls with a great generosity of
> spirit
> and inspiration.
>
> the closer, faye tucker, based on the true story of karla faye tucker
> who upon her execution last year became the first woman to be
> sentenced to
> death in the state of texas since the civil war, is a real stirrer.
> with
> its celtic martial rhythm and ray's powerful rumination on mortality,
> the
> song just mesmerises, and the wordless vocals of natacha atlas
> towards the
> end is seductively eerie.
>
> the two hidden tracks that come after that are also delicious, the
> first
> in a dark, haunting way and the second in a graceful, soothing
> manner.
>
> come on now social is without a doubt one of the finest folk-rock
> recordings of the year, if not this decade.
> ----------------------------------------------------------
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> sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu
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at 08:33 am 10/29/99 -0700, jean moses wrote:
>>>guests like luscious jackson, me'shell ndegeocello and garth hudson
>and
>rick danko of the band support the girls with a great generosity of
>spirit
>and inspiration.<<
>
>luscious jackson?  which track is she on?
>
>jean

i believe they mean kate schellenbach of lucious jackson who plays on
compromise.
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> come on now social is without a doubt one of the finest folk-rock
>  recordings of the year, if not this decade

now *this* review made me smile and say "yay!" instead of growl
at the reviewer...=)  so i guess this means that cons has pretty
much been released in most countries?  come to think of it, i wonder
*which* countries ig stuff is released in as opposed to fans having
to buy imported albums...hmm...can any int'l. listees out there from
especially far-off (from the u.s.) places fill me in?  i'd love to talk with
listees from, say, malaysia!  here's to spreading indigasms all over the
world...;)
peace t'day,
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indigasms?

i love this!  wouldn't the world be a nicer place if we all rewarded
ourselves with a indigasms more often?

tami

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tami!

how did you get the tickets?!...i can't get the number anywhere!...i'm
flying into cincy to get my gf and we're wanting to head up for the concert
but can't find the tickets!ack!...any info please!

rugbygrrl


>from: tami damron <txosbo01@morehead-st.edu>
>reply-to: tami damron <txosbo01@morehead-st.edu>
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>date: fri, 29 oct 1999 10:48:52 -0400
>
>i just ordered my tickets for the columbus show!  woo-hoo!!  plus, i
>ordered a couple of tickets for my 2 best friends as birthday/chirstmas
>gifts.  what could be better than the gift of ig?
>
>
>tami
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sorry!...called my gf and she got an email from a friend telling her about
the tickets, etc...
we got 'em!...sec 1(floor), row k!

rugbygrrl

>from: bancu rugbygrrl <ravishingruggrbc@hotmail.com>
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>date: fri, 29 oct 1999 08:56:11 pdt
>
>tami!
>
>how did you get the tickets?!...i can't get the number anywhere!...i'm
>flying into cincy to get my gf and we're wanting to head up for the concert
>but can't find the tickets!ack!...any info please!
>
>rugbygrrl
>
>
>>from: tami damron <txosbo01@morehead-st.edu>
>>reply-to: tami damron <txosbo01@morehead-st.edu>
>>to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
>>subject: ig in columbus
>>date: fri, 29 oct 1999 10:48:52 -0400
>>
>>i just ordered my tickets for the columbus show!  woo-hoo!!  plus, i
>>ordered a couple of tickets for my 2 best friends as birthday/chirstmas
>>gifts.  what could be better than the gift of ig?
>>
>>
>>tami
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actually, most "classic" folk songs are quite cliche -- think back to 60s joan
baez or bob dylan.  the thing that makes 'em stick and work so well is that
they are using familiar words and images, ones that resonate easily with their
audience.

frankly, i don't see if there could have been any other way to say "and the
one with the most toys wins" in any other way...  and it's true!  the power
struggles in the current paradigm are all about possessions of one kind or
another...

i guess it's true about art (the concept, not the person)...  if it's truly
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art, it demands a reaction.

melissa genevieve young wrote:

> i think this song has kind of a self-mocking tone, like emily is well aware
> of how "schoolgirl" the sentiments are.  i think em uses the cliches and
> pedestrian objections to religion as (a) an invitation to look closer, or
> (b) a caricature.  it's too damn late for me to be thinking about this
> stuff, anybody else want to build on this?

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hello!

can the girl who is trying to start a pride group in her high school  (i'm
pretty sure it was this list and not the dar list) please contact me?
i have an article she might be interested in.

kelly,
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hi all,

anybody out there from columbus?  or anybody who's been to the vetern's
memorial auditorium?  i just got my ig tix this morning (sec 1, row g, seats
28&30).  anybody know if these seats are any good?  any feedback would be
greatly appreciated:)  thanks.

~amy s.

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that's it... forget the indian instruments and celtic tunes... they need a
gamelan on the next album.

-shana

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section 1 is on the far right(emily side)...you're a couple of rows in front
of me and my bunch!
there's a floor plan of the auditorium at ticketmaster...
http://www.ticketmaster.com/venue/ch2/95/
hope that helps!
:d

rugbygrrl

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>date: fri, 29 oct 1999 12:48:01 edt
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>hi all,
>
>anybody out there from columbus?  or anybody who's been to the vetern's
>memorial auditorium?  i just got my ig tix this morning (sec 1, row g,
>seats
>28&30).  anybody know if these seats are any good?  any feedback would be
>greatly appreciated:)  thanks.
>
>~amy s.
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3rd row, center.

nuff said.

emily

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at 02:44 pm 10/29/1999 +0000, jen meklenburg wrote:

first off, i simply must say that i just love this subject line. <beg>
(wholeheartedly agree?  yeah, that's an understatement all right.)

>she sounds sooooo cute when she sings the "bit me in my dream" part.

uh huh.  :)~~
actually, i love the way she sounds during the whole song, and the way she
half-talks "i brush a guy in the airport whistling it's a small world after
all, and the prices are higher, but the kids still selling lemonade."
especially the "selling lemonade" bit.

>do people like her better as a blonde or red head?  i loved the way she
>looked in the 10 years underground (?) video.

blonde?  redhead?  blonde?  redhead?  oooh, tough call . . . this is one of
those choices that would make me cry if you forced me to make a decision
one way or the other!  i've gotta say, though, that one of my favorite
images of emily is from the "hammer and a nail" video.  something about the
overalls and the perky expression . . . ~*sigh*~

battle on,
shanie
(taking up the gabwhacker in defense of the bard, in all lifetimes)
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hi there.
i live in windsor, ontario and need to know how to get tix for this show
as i can't locate it on ticketmaster's website.  does anyone know the
number to call????  better yet, can someone enlighten me as to where emu
is from the border???
thanks.
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hey y'all,

still too tired to formulate (took me six tries to spell that word!) a
complete review, but had to pass on the info that the girls did airplane last
night at the dallas concert.  clare, carol and caroline became the roches and
the song was great!  okay, okay, i know that everybody hates that song, but
it was so fun in concert.  and amy was blown away that we knew all the words.
silly girl - doesn't she know that they could sing any song they've ever
recorded and we would be able to do all the lyrics!!!!

anyway, a good time was had by all, even if we didn't get to hear chickenman
:-)

as always, fay tucker rocked.  actually, the whole show did.  out of the ten
concerts i've seen, definitely at the top.  and we had a great list meet and
lots of fun together.  the best part of being an ig fan is the other crazy,
obsessed people i keep meeting along the way.  i had a blast last night
y'all!!!!

pam in big d

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hey all!

think we were gone?  jeni and i really have not been active on the list at
all for some time now, but we've been lurking and thinking about y'all and
thought we'd send a quick catch-up in honor of the new album.

it is igc, of course, because jeni and i met at a pnw-er get-together at
the bumbershoot concert 3 years ago.

we are still very much together and disgustingly  happy, and may even save
up (for a long time, lol) to visit the netherlands and get legally
hitched.  'course it won't apply in the us, but still.  life is good... no,
life is fantastic.

if there's any cool get-togethers planned, do let us know.  we're both
still on the list, but honestly read very little.

how are y'all doin'?  what's going on out here?  lisa? carolyn? gwendigo?
the great and honorable claire? sundara, pj, kathy and sue,  kim from n.
vancouver, betsy, andrea, and everyone else that my pathetic ability to
recall names can't generate?

think i'll post a wee about cons next...

tracy


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        - the avengers, the original avengers.
diana rigg is the only emma.
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the whole crew is  w/ our mountains!
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i agree about amy's surprise.  i thought i got a glimpse of surprise on
her face several times.  maybe they will come back more often. i would
love that.
i was going to ask if we could get everyone's help here in dallas.  the
girls get no airplay.  would ya'll mind helping us with that?  maybe we
could all e-mail one of our radio stations(the zone?), and bombard them
with requests to help our girls out.  amy requested we call the radio
stations, request ig, and scream "girls rock!", so let's do it!!
what do ya'll think????
rally??
:)

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honestly i don't at all understand the dislike of this album.

it has actually managed almost on first listen to make it to my 2nd
favorite one by ig, behind nis.  i know that i am a bit odd in my prefs,
but so be it.  even trying to account for that, i don't 'get' the annoyance.

in my often wrong opinion, cons is much closer to what ig has  been up to
than sots was.  don't misunderstand me, i like that album a lot too -
though far far less than cons.  and it took me a few listens to before i
really connected to it...  cut it out in particular.  i didn't like that
song at all until seeing it performed at the pier.  and i still cannot
stand to avoid skipping past caramia.

in contrast to sots this one feels to me as if ig have gotten a better
melding with the different instruments they enjoy using.  it feels more to
me like the different media actually belong in the song, rather than just
being able to be there for the sake of trying it out.  there is a lot more
background chit-chat on this one, and usually that annoys the hell out of
me (sophie hawkins, joan osbourne, etc.) but in most cases on this one i
really think it fits the songs.  ozilline in particular would just not work
nearly as well without the intro.  less gratuitous than many albums, again
in my often wrong opinion.

i happen to really adore that ig are unpredictable in what is going to be
on the albums.  i never know on that first spin if i am going to like what
i hear.  that rocks.  i like it.  for predicability and sticking to a
standard i can pop in any melissa etheridge album.  note that i adore both
artists and we have both mle and ig on pre-order as soon as that is
available, but they are clearly very different in their approaches to
music, fandom, and so on.  that applies to the fan club as well.  want one
heck of a fan club that is almost sadistically active?  try
mle's.  lol  and both ig and mle seem like very happy folks overall within
themselves, and really that's what matters to me.  diversity is what keeps
the planet spinning.  they owe me nothing.

i have to say that i am beginning, lyrically, to feel a bit concerned about
emily's apparent phobia of secret conference rooms.... <chuckle> but i
often say that it is important to have paranoid folks to balance out the
intentionally naive ones like me.

i like the music very muchly on cons.  i like the harmonies better than on
sots.  i have been an amy-preferer since the start, but i really enjoy cold
beer and remote control,  peace tonight, and we are together.  i think all
cliche's are intentional (recall the english degree), especially from
em.  i think they have both become much better musicians, and mix their
lyrics better with that music.  growth and change are good.  :-)

as always, just my opinions.  your mileage will certainly vary, contents
settle during shipping, and do not use near gas stations.

tracy
<waving in a north-easterly direction again to my budpal kiminy, who i
think is still subbed...?>


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i want to thank all of you who helped me pick out some michelle malone cd's,
i am  off to a good start (since i got the pros backing me up)

i wanted to thank each email personally (but it's a bit too much!)

thanks once again!
marie

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in a message dated 10/29/99 4:46:27 pm central daylight time,
venussage@yahoo.com writes:

<< i was going to ask if we could get everyone's help here in dallas.  the
girls get no airplay.  would ya'll mind helping us with that?  maybe we
could all e-mail one of our radio stations(the zone?), and bombard them
with requests to help our girls out.  amy requested we call the radio
stations, request ig, and scream "girls rock!", so let's do it!!
what do ya'll think???? >>

the zone is now merge 93.3.  they claim to be very responsive to listeners,
so if they receive a couple dozen requests for ig all at the same time, maybe
we'll get some action.  unfortunately, dallas just doesn't have a good radio
station since kera went to an all talk format.  that was over two years ago
and i'm still steaming.  they could always be counted to feature ig heavily -
i can recall hearing bury my heart and mona lisas & mad hatters back in the
"olden" days.  oh well....

i'm all for a blitz on the merge.

pam in big d

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ryan blackhawke <hawke2@email.msn.com>wrote:

<<<face it folks, mle is in it for the money. big difference from our girls
who
are in it for the music...>>>>

i am glad someone got what i was trying to say!!!

sandy

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hello y'all... this is going to be tigger's once-a-week non-controversial
nigc post...

so ok, do i owe anybody anything???? i know someone emailed me about a
magazine and i replied but i haven't heard back from you...  some of you sent
me tapes for bootlegs before i moved this spring and you never got them back
from me.  if anybody out there is owed anything from my collection, please
email me!  i want to get all squared up so that i can get started sharing &
trading boots again... i have nothing dated more recent than that infamous
valdosta show from oct. 97 (y'all remember, the one where i got up onstage
and amy hugged me in front of everyone?  yeah, that's the one... :)
so if anybody out there is owed anything from me, please let me know!!!!
thanks!

~~jennifer
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brush.  he surveyed the fence, and all gladness left him, and a deep
melancholy settled down upon his spirit.  thirty yards of board fence nine
feet high!  life to him seemed hollow, and existence but a burden."   ~mark
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hi there,
does anyone have the lyrics written out to this song.  i'd appreciate
it.
mary

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>valdosta show from oct. 97 (y'all remember, the one where i got up onstage
>and amy hugged me in front of everyone?

good god what did you do to earn this?
-s.

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i am broke due to the fact i can not get enough hours at work. i am trying
to figure out a way to send them out. i had them over a year some of them
due to the fact i had misplaced them.  so i have no idea when i can send
them out. missy

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in a message dated 10/29/99 9:47:09 am est, jenmek@hotmail.com writes:

<<a hurricane flag flappin' in a bad storm
same color of the spider underneath my nail that bit me in my dream

she sounds sooooo cute when she sings the "bit me in my dream" part.>>

what's with this part anyway? is that really a dream she had, or am i just
not gettin' it?

<<do people like her better as a blonde or red head?   >>
redhead redhead redhead! the first time i saw her in person was in an alley
when she was getting out of the bus, and the thing that i noticed most was
her hair. as far as i'm concerned it was the only color on the whole street:)
besieds that, i just love redheads (particularly gillian andersoin and
shirley manson)

pax, celeste;)

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hey y'all, just thought i'd get in the sum of my thoughts on this pol thing
- i won't drag it out after this.

count me in with the group that thinks pol is purposefully cliche - pointed
comments with a sweet, simple backdrop.

i just don't agree (with that reviewer) that emily's stuff on this album is
_markedly_ weaker than amy's, and i'm uncomfortable with those comparisons
anyway. amy and emily contribute equally to these albums and much of their
strength as a team is in their differences. we gotta give each of them room
to do their thing; (and imo) we need to avoid trying to tally up and
compare each of their contributions. inevitably someone will be stronger
than the other on each effort (and it goes back and forth, and opinion
always varies about which is stronger, etc...) - so what? it's the combined
effort that makes them the ig. even on an album such as cons that contains
widely varying styles and influences.

i think it would be totally appropriate (and inevitable) to compare them if
each came out with a solo album...

the thing that bothers me about the shot to emily (i.e. "amy should
consider a solo career") is that it is really uncalled for in view of their
entire body of work. won't it be a drag if each time a new album comes out
we have critics choosing one person over the other and asserting that they
should now start a solo career? ugh.

sorry to vent so. glad y'all understand my frustration. i'm sure glad i
don't have all sorts of critics printing up off-the-cuff, unstudied
evaluations of my work for all to read. i guess the girls are used to it by
now.

-s. (who is all for thoughtful criticism)

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hi all,

i was surprised to hear the comments about not liking the girls changing
around for a different ending.  i think it's great to vary their ending
numbers!  and, looking at it from their perspective, it must get kind of
old closing with ctf every show.  i'd love it if they'd start closing
with old classics, or some of the stuff they used to cover as early
artists.  just my .02

bonnie

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date:         fri, 29 oct 1999 21:30:52 -0400
reply-to:     bonnie lacey <blacey@aye.net>
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somebody said this:

and to take it a step further, in my opinion, this
album contains her weakest material. it isn't as good
of an album for her as was, for example, so.

wow i disagree, and i am an amy person.  i've been wanting to comment on
some of my impressions from what i see as some very revealing lyrics
about what the girls ahve been going through.  as most of you younger
listees don't know, there's this little phase i lovingly call the "age
35 life crisis"  where you all of a sudden just start to question who
and where you are in life.  by the time you hit 40, as i do in a month,
you've about got it figured out.

i see emily working through a lot of these identity issues here.  for
instance, i feel soon to be nothing is 100% about a life crisis.  all of
a sudden, your normal routine just doesn't satisfy you, you feel like
you're coming apart (unravelling of me), people tell you it will pass
(it's temporary, just a matter of time) but you feel hopeless.  youfeel
like you're wearing away to the point of nothingness.  i love the way
emily caught that phrase "soon to be nothing".  i think the whole song
is very artful and i can totally relate to it.  especially where she
says if she saw her choice she could find her voice.  that is so
poignant, because during that phase of life, we all do examine our core
values, and we get a bit lost sometimes in trying to find our voice.
all you old broads like me out there, anybody agree with this??

next, i see trouble as a general commentary on organized religion.
something about fixing food, welcoming strangers just reminds me of
church, but then she gets to the heart of the matter, which is that in
some ways the church is all hip now but in many ways, esp related to how
gay people are treated in the church, we still have a far far way to
go.   with emily's songs, i have to clear my mind out and just take them
in, and some kind of meaning comes over me.  on this one, i think the
trouble she's talking about is in the church.  imho.

now, my favorite lyrics on the whole cd may seem kind of silly to you,
but they evoke such a picture of love:

i knealt in front of my whole collection
i'm picking you a special selection

i do that for my husb when i really want to make a good mood, and i love
that line.  emily has a way of saying things just right.

well that's all for now.

bonnie

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date:         fri, 29 oct 1999 22:45:00 -0400
reply-to:     elaine bean <efbean@erols.com>
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bonnie lacey wrote:
> listees don't know, there's this little phase i lovingly call the "age
> 35 life crisis"  where you all of a sudden just start to question who
> and where you are in life.  by the time you hit 40, as i do in a month,
> you've about got it figured out.
>
> i see emily working through a lot of these identity issues here.  for
> instance, i feel soon to be nothing is 100% about a life crisis.  all of
> a sudden, your normal routine just doesn't satisfy you, you feel like
> you're coming apart (unravelling of me), people tell you it will pass
> (it's temporary, just a matter of time) but you feel hopeless.  youfeel
> like you're wearing away to the point of nothingness.  i love the way
> . . . . . says if she saw her choice she could find her voice.  that is so poignant, because during that phase of life, we all do examine our
core
> values, and we get a bit lost sometimes in trying to find our voice.

but you do figure it out!!  you do find your voice and you can make that
choice.  i love being 41 - never would i want to be at an age where i
don't know the stuff i do now and never would i want to to go through
all that stuff that you do when you're growing up and experiencing new
things - not that i'm not still growing or experiencing new stuff - but
now it's not a struggle - it's a new, pleasurable learning experience!
at least that's how it is for me.  i don't mean to sound so corny, but
getting older is getting better imho.

> all you old broads like me out there, anybody agree with this??

yes, yes, yes - you put things so eloquently.

elaine

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ok, how many of you out there are in possession of a bootleg/bootlegs which
contain a song entitled "problem child"............ in the essence of
accuracy, since pc is obviously a neolithic version of go, should we change
all the labels of the boots from problem child to go?
personally, i miss that verse.... i am a problem child, i've been wild all my
days.... *sigh*

~~jennifer
************
"tom appeared on the sidewalk with a bucket of whitewash and a long-handled
brush.  he surveyed the fence, and all gladness left him, and a deep
melancholy settled down upon his spirit.  thirty yards of board fence nine
feet high!  life to him seemed hollow, and existence but a burden."   ~mark
twain, _tom sawyer_

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date:         fri, 29 oct 1999 21:59:42 -0500
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tracy & the swamp dogs writes << i don't see the annoyance>>>

the harmonies before cons were  always at the forefront
on every ig song....every .....song......wonderful.
on cons it's there, but you can't really hear it.
and the girls said it would be  like that, but i
received the warnig  after i bought cons, and heard it.

you say that the girls are closer  to what they were doing  in the
beginning ....i totally dissagree, because on  none of their earlier
recordings did their music ever drown anyone out that was important to
the song. on go
they had someone read from meridel leseur,
"marching" ithink it was......wonderful........if
you do not want to hear the words, but just a female.  what's the sense
there?  the song is about activism, so if they're going to qoute
meridel, than why shut her up by turning up the volume on the back-up
band?

they don't even print  her words in the liner notes, if ttere were no
mention in the back, of the liner notes, you wouldn't know  that she was
being qouted.

amy comes off as being happy on  songs like gone again, i'm not used to
that, and  i was hoping for all those other songs i've never heard like
chiapas bound , cortez the kille
as it . is  the only  songs  that give me a little hope  for this album,
are philosophy of loss, and andy, bt once again...where's the harmony?
i hate my cons album, i don't even know why i keep it,  it isn't what i
wanted with my money...te music isn't.

peace,

barb

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i apologize for the nigc, but thought this was imp.
and the best way to pass it would be to ya'll at once.
thank you.

sam


> subject: help pass a hate crimes bill by signing
> this petition
>
> rainbwimyn@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > << do not delete!! must read!!!
> >    please read the entire email and don't kill
> this petition. *if you
> >    aren't signing, please forward this to
> allrunique@aol.com. if you
> don't
> >    forward it, the names signed may not count.*
> >
> >    as you have all probably heard about in detail,
> a tragic event
> happened a
> >    year ago, on
> >    october 6 1998, outside laramie, wyoming.
> matthew shepard, a
> 21-year-old
> >    university of wyoming student, was tortured,
> beaten, and left tied
> to a
> >    pole in the freezing cold. six days later, he
> died of his wounds
> in
> >    poudre valley hospital, fort collins, colorado.
>  matthew was
> murdered
> >    because he was gay and because he was a
> prominent and charismatic
> member
> >    of the gay and lesbian student group on campus.
> right now wyoming
> and
> >    colorado have no anti-hate crime laws; the
> state legislature in
> wyoming
> >    has voted down anti-bias bills for each of the
> past three years.
> there
> >    is an effort in wyoming and colorado to enact
> matthew shepard
> laws,
> >    which would strongly punish the perpetrators of
> hate  crimes.
> this
> >    petition demands the broadening of federal
> anti-hate crime law.
> opening
> >    statement: "we state strongly that violence on
> the basis of sexual
> >    orientation, race or gender is wrong, is evil,
> is reprehensible."
> john
> >    buehren, president of the unitarian
> universalist speaks for
> unitarian
> >    universalists, but his words are reflected in
> the hearts of people
> >    everywhere who believe we must speak out, take
> action against, and
> >    condemn hate crimes in all their ugly forms. a
> resolution follows:
> >    whereas: we affirm and promote the inherent
> worth and  dignity of
> every
> >    person.  whereas: we commend the efforts of
> those individuals
> >    who dedicate their
> >    lives to causes of life, liberty and pursuit of
> happiness.
> therefore be
> >    it resolved: that we hereby urge the passage of
> the hate crimes
> >    prevention act (hcpa), h.r.3081 and s.1529. the
> hate crimes
> prevention
> >    act (hcpa), h.r.3081 and s.1529, would amend
> current federal law
> (which
> >    permits federal prosecution of a hate crime
> only if the crime was
> >    motivated by bias based on religion, national
> origin, or color) to
> >    include real or perceived sexual orientation,
> gender, and
> disability so
> >    the fbi would be able to investigate and
> prosecute violent hate
> crimes
> >    against gays, lesbians, and bisexuals. under
> this bill, hate
> crimes that
> >    cause death or bodily injury because of
> prejudice can be
> investigated
> >    federally, regardless of whether the victim was
> exercising a
> federally
> >    protected right. the only way that our
> representatives can be
> aware of
> >    the base of support or this change to the
> current law is by making
> our
> >    voices heard.  please add your name to this
> petition and forward
> it, so
> >    that it can then be forwarded to the president
> of the united
> states; the
> >    vice president of the united states; and our
> united states
> senators and
> >    house members.  petition management:  1. this
> petition is being
> passed
> >    around the internet. please add your name to it
> so that we can
> have
> >    tougher laws against all hate crimes. please
> keep the petition
> rolling.
> >    do not reply to me. please sign and forward to
> others to sign.
> this is
> >    being forwarded to several people at once to
> add their names. it
> will
> >    not matter if many people receive the same list
> as the names are
> being
> >    managed.  2. if you print out this petition for
> circulation and
> signing,
> >    please email the listing of names with
> locations to the email
> address:
> >    allrunique@aol.com (an e-mail address created
> to receive this
> petition).
> >    include a note to indicate you have a
> hand-signed petition and
> include
> >    the number of names listed.  3. if you happen
> to be the 50th,
> 100th,
> >    150th, 200th, 250th, (...) name on this
> petition, please forward a
> copy
> >    to the above address.  4. if you sign, please
> pass it on to
> others. if
> >    not, please do not kill it. send it on to the
> email address:
> >    allrunique@aol.com
> >    thank you,
> >    leslie palmer
> >    i cannot stay silent, my outrage and compassion
> will not allow it.
> >    please add a number and sign at the bottom of
> this list.
> >    001) leslie palmer, jacksonville, fl
> >    002) stephen silverman, south burlington, vt
> >    003) wayne arnason  004) theo diamond,
> charlottesville, va
> >    005) sasha kopf, northampton, ma / princeton,
> nj
> >    006) geoffrey b. metz, tufts univ., medford, ma
> >    007) emily sporl, tufts university, medford, ma
> >    008) tai collins, oberlin college, oberlin, oh
> >    009) danielle lazarin, oberlin college,
> oberlin, oh
> >    010) priscilla morales, yale university, new
> haven, ct
> >    011) lydia pace, yale university, new haven, ct
> >    012) julia goren, williams college,
> williamstown, ma
> >    013) jamie waxman, columbia university
> >    014) rebecca zimmerman, columbia university, ny
> >    015) ariel meyerstein, columbia university, ny
> >    017) aaron finkel, university of
> missouri-columbia, mo
> >    018) sally noedel, truman state univ.,
> kirksville, mo
> >    019) kim cook, oberlin college, oberlin, oh
> >    020) molly mitchell, oberlin college, oberlin,
> oh
> >    021) jeremy schwab, oberlin college, oberlin,
> oh
> >    022) aaron manheim, oberlin college, oberlin,
> oh
> >    023) rebecca pronsky, oberlin college, oberlin,
> oh
> >    024) rebecca milburn, wesleyan univ.,
> middletown, ct
> >    025) christene dejong, wesleyan univ.,
> middletown, ct
> >    026) lisa lapman, wellesley college, wellesley,
> ma
> >    027) julia sussner, wellesley college, ma
> >    028) adrian dellecker, trinity college, ct
> >    029) sarah mullen, trinity college, ct
> >    030) phu thai, university of rhode island,
> kingston, ri
> >    031) leigh phillips, wheaton college, norton,
> ma
> >    032) dominic rozzi, ithaca college, ithaca, ny
> >    033) matthew small, heidelburg college, tiffin
> oh
> >    034) linda roach, ithaca college, ithaca, ny
> >    035) julian halliday, schlumberger as,
> columbus, oh
> >    036) elizabeth wohler, university of virginia,
> charlottesville, va
> >    037) susan gordon, university of virginia,
> charlottesville, va
> >    038) heidi cook, vassar college, poughkeepsie,
> ny
> >    039) ariel spira-cohen, vassar college,
> poughkeepsie, ny
> >    040) kerry maxwell, hamilton college, clinton,
> ny
> >    041) emma mclaren, hamilton college, clinton,
> ny
> >    042) michelle marsidi, brown university,
> providence, ri
> >    043) eliana garcia, connecticut college, new
> london, ct
> >    044) jaime viola, farmington, ct
> >    045) ryan ihrke, luther college, decorah, ia
> >    046) perry-o sliwa, luther college, decorah, ia
> >    047) gui dall'stella, new york, ny
> >    048) abdul knowles, dain rauscher inc.
> >    049) gerry petersen, st. ansgar schools, st.
> ansgar, ia
> >    050) lori hagen, luther college, decorah, ia
> >    051) jennifer kirking, prairie du chien, wi
> >    052) regina check, prairie du chien, wisconsin
> >    053) sarah guidotti, duquesne university,
> pittsburgh, pa
> >    054) camella dimitri, tulane university, new
> orleans, la
> >    055) c.m.ralph, redwood city, ca
> >    056) sarah e. tigerman, redwood city, ca
> >    057) karen r. zachow, san francisco, ca
> >    058) sara jorde, minneapolis, mn
> >    059) don sommers, minneapolis, mn
> >    060) shawn allison, st. paul, mn
> >    061) christine cucciarre, cleveland, oh
> >    062) frank cucciarre, cleveland, oh
> >    063) karen jewell-kett, cleveland, oh
> >    064) ronald l. buford, cleveland, oh
> >    065) david s. slobodien, dc., west hollywood,
> ca.
> >    066) patrick casey, md, los angeles, ca
> >    067) cristian cifuentes, west hollywood, ca
> >    068) gary jimenez, montebello, ca
> >    069) paige van riper, playa del rey, ca
> >    070) helena delu, altadena, ca
> >    071) edward e. boughton iii, ventura ca
> >    072) edward mitchell, los angeles ca
> >    073) monica mitchell, los angeles, ca
> >    074) jack shih, los angeles, ca
> >    075) eva aguilera, los angeles, ca
> >    076) natasha gerasimova, venice, ca
> >    077) andreas sengebusch, encino, ca
> >    078) melissa ruggeri, studio city, ca
date: sun, 21 nov 1999 20:05:06 +0000
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> >    079) mary bredlau, dallas tx
> >    080) l.a.ragland, dallas, tx
> >    081) jackie mcshane, dallas, tx
> >    082) richard clayton, dallas, tx
> >    083) tammi d.baker, houston, tx
> >    084) adam glick, boston, ma
> >    085) jeremy glick, greenwich, ct
> >    086) stacey smith, new canaan, ct
> >    087) robin bouvier, boxborough, ma
> >    088) kari rusing, norwalk, ct
> >    089) melissa brown, washington, dc
> >    090) tanya burrwell, washington, dc
> >    091) alberto figueroa-garcia, washington, dc
> >    092) charlie buquet, santa cruz, ca
> >    093) tracy ballard, santa cruz, ca
> >    094) marcus kettles, nyc, ny
> >    095) paul pecorino, nyc, ny
> >    096) jamie sanford, gainesville, fl
> >    097) beryl firestone, tampa, fl
> >    098) ryan goldenberg, tampa, fl
> >    099) david niersbach, richmond, in
> >    100) sara parliament, richmond, in
> >    101) erin walker, colorado state university,
> fort collins, co
> >    102) amber armstrong, colorado springs, co
> >    103) ginger kite, colorado springs, co
> >    104) matt joiner, boulder, co
> >    105) anya domlesky, portland, or
> >    106) caitlin carlson, portland, or
> >    107) janel wright, portland, ore.
> >    108) charlene ongelungel, portland, or
> >    109) muranda brooker, portland, or
> >    110) tera cushman, portlant or
> >    111) rachel greenough, portland, or
> >    112) stephanie nicora, pebble beach, ca
> >    113) julie goetzen, san diego, ca
> >    114) dana ung, san diego, ca
> >    115) sirena ung, san diego, ca
> >    116) keri laprise, templeton, ma
> >    117) jared graves, otter river, ma
> >    118) amanda legay, fitchburg , ma
> >    119) joshua berg, west bloomfield mi
> >    120) michael canner, west bloomfield mi
> >    130) anna peterson, west bloomfield, mi
> >    131) lindsay mcfedries, bloomfield hills, mi
> >    132) kathleen jimbo, west bloomfield, mi
> >    133) justine yeung, beverly hills, mi
> >    134) j. blaine piraneo, manalapan, nj
> >    135) timothy arnold, colonia, nj
> >    136) sara okun, linden, nj
> >    137) steven rosete woodbridge, va
> >    138) carolyne williams, fairfax station, va
> >    139) lauren shelton, fairfax station, va
> >    140) john h. beyer iv, chicago, il.
> >    141) kathy bianchi, chicago, il
> >    142) ed garza, chicago, il
> >    143) jonathan "bumper" carroll, chicago, il
> >    144) gillian vigman, chicago, il
> >    145) ann gradman, ny
> >    146) gary mcdonnell, ny
> >    147) craig retchless, nyc, ny
> >    148) valerie l. retchless, syracuse, ny
> >    149) anna meade
> >    150) christopher walton
> >    151) jennifer moe, eugene, or
> >    152) shannon bond, seattle, wa
> >    153) karen malia list, seattle,wa
> >    154) kim miskowicz, sf, ca
> >    155) shayne spaulding, sf, ca
> >    156) tiela chalmers, sf, ca
> >    157) paul nemrow, sf, ca
> >    158) allen sabourin, sf, ca
> >    159) jim sherrill, sf, ca
> >    160) thom mcdaniel, houston, tx
> >    161) enrique gonalez, houston, tx
> >    162) will browne, moraga, ca
> >    163) ken nicholas, nashville, tn.
> >    164) keifer meeks, nasvhille, tn
> >    165) vincent wix, nashville, tn
> >    166) jim harper, nashville, tn
> >    167) rick deslover, nashville, tn
> >    168) kayte watts, portland,or
> >    169) jeff hays, portland, or
> >    170) jennifer fowler, vancouver, wa
> >    171) amy n. haight, vancouver, wa
> >    172) claire colleen rourk, vancouver, wa
> >    173) kevin schumacher, medina, oh
> >    174) anthony d'amato, brick, nj
> >    175) giancarlo durland, long branch, new
> jersey.
> >    176) eric sharp, los angeles, california
> >    177) alyssa boyle, los angeles, ca
> >    178) gene michael barrera, los angeles, ca
> >    179) karen sperling, new york, n.y.
> >    180) vicki temkin, encino, ca
> >    181) david skernick. west hills, ca
> >    182) tony donaldson, sherman oaks, ca
> >    183} julie gengo, san diego, ca
> >    184) carolyn gengo di domenico, ny, ny
> >    185) fabio girelli-carasi, new york, ny
> >    186) armando rotondi, pittsburgh, pa
> >    187) jim & caroline grindrod madison wi
> >    188) david grindrod, madison wi
> >    189) emily engelland wilson, huntington, wv
> >    190) paula choquette rachal, huntington, wv
> >    191) robert tyler rachal, huntington, wv
> >    192) s. scott hunter, parkersburg, wv
> >    193) wendell n. gibbs, jr., cincinnati, oh
> >    194) lisa r. hughes, cincinnati, oh
> >    195) sue freedman, cincinnati, oh
> >    196) milton l. freiberg
> >    197) ed flesch, san francisco, ca
> >    198) robyn breiman, cincinnati, oh
> >    199) leslie cannon, cincinnati, oh
> >    200) elizabeth m. levy, cincinnati, oh
> >    201) dolores d. galloway, denver, co
> >    202) joe & millie everett, toronto, on
> >    203) brad cafarelli, west hollywood, ca
> >    204) marc hulett, marina del rey, ca
> >    205) tim tomlinson, seattle, wa
> >    206) steven b. johnson, san diego, ca
> >    207) tom trainor, seattle, wa
> >    208) brad turner, seattle, wa
> >    209) alphonce j. brown, jr., houston, tx
> >    210) daniel r. zorn, houston, tx
> >    211) margaret o'donnell, houston, tx
> >    212) banghwa lee casado, houston, tx
> >    213) peter v. nguyen, houston, tx
> >    214) ann mckithan, houston, tx
> >    215) geri davis, houston, tx
> >    216) mark siskel, houston, tx
> >    217) chris lewis, houston, tx
> >    218) john l. alexander, los angeles, ca
> >    219) john musser, san francisco, ca
> >    220) greg birdsall, west hollywood, ca
> >    221) brett klein, west hollywood, ca
> >    222) ernst laurel, los angeles, ca
> >    223) jenny campbell, west toluca lake, ca
> >    224) lori korngiebel, los angeles, ca
> >    225) julie s. gabler, los angeles, ca
> >    226) ashley c. swanson, denton, tx
> >    227) anne k. swanson, aurora, co
> >    228) kelly d. gerald, miami beach, fl
> >    229) elaine m. allen, miramar, fl
> >    230) andrew briskin, hollywood, ca
> >    231) austin foxxe, los angeles, ca
> >    232) erica springer, west hollywood, ca
> >    233) orly ravid, hollywood ca
> >    234) ellen flanders, new york, ny
> >    235) sasha darling, toronto on cda
> >    236) robert paul, toronto, on, canada
> >    237) kirk bryant, toronto, on, canada (u.s. &
> canadian
> >    citizen)
> >    238) paul henrik borup-jorgensen bc,
> canada(landed immigrant -
> danish
> >    citizen)  239) anders bjorn langelo, lyngby,
> denmark  240) benn
> lohse,
> >    ecmc secretary, denmark  241) rob scheers,
> antwerp
> >    242) arthur rodel, berne, switzerland
> >    243) stoeps meyer, ormalingen, switzerland
> >    244) michael eadie,toronto, ontario, canada
> >    245) mitchell bernard, toronto, ontario, canada
> >    250) chris barton, bedminster, new jersey
> >    251) matt cotton, plainfield, nj
> >    252) cynthia rothschild, new york, ny
> >    253) james h. deadwyler, new york, ny
> >    254) wyman meers, new york, ny
> >    255) heather kent, jersey city, nj
> >    256) jennifer radke, new york, ny
> >    257) claire reisert, new york, ny
> >    258) sarah wilson, new york, ny
> >    259) toon botwin, new york, new york
> >    260) anne pope, new york, new york
> >    261) ev stone, jersey city, nj
> >    262) kelly pentecost, atlanta, ga
> >    263) david lane, atlanta, ga
> >    264) ray parker, orange city, fl
> >    265) tami parker, deland, fl
> >    266) chuck parker, orange city, fl
> >    267) lysa parker, atlanta, ga
> >    268) sam park, los angeles, ca
> >    269) katherine tomlinson, studio city, ca
> >    270) margery kimbrough, los angeles, ca
> >    271) s. o'brien, wilmington, nc
> >    272) vanessa veit, jefferson city mo
> >    273) giselle walsh, villa park, il
> >    274) john christian
> >    275) joan epro
> >    276) ruth hartshorneb hamilton, ny
> >    277) david m. scotford, oxford, oh
> >    278) david s. hirsch,b oxford, oh
> >    279) elisabeth miranda, union city, california
> >    280) jennifer slatten, oakland, ca
> >    281) karen mcfarlane, san francisco, ca
> >    282) colleen bush, grand rapids, mi
> >    283) david v. evans, madras, or
> >    284) suzanne el-attar, madras, or
> >    285) lydia vaias, los angeles, ca
> >    286) david roodman, baltimore, md
> >    287) payal sampat, washington, dc
> >    288) sylvia dohnert, mit, cambridge, ma
> >    289) vandana sareen, mit, cambridge, ma
> >    290) marcel schmaedick, cambridge, ma
> >    291) jessica buckley, ukaih, ca
> >    292) courtney estes, santa barbara, ca
> >    293) ariana katovich, santa barbara, ca
> >    294) steve aoki, santa barbara, ca
> >    295) gary bahen, escondido, ca
> >    296) chris greenslate, del mar, ca
> >    297) the cause, san diego, ca
> >    298) james hart, huntington beach, ca
> >    299) nick strauser, california institute of the
> arts, valencia,
> ca.
> >    300) natascha cole long beach, ca
> >    301) rainer stanic germany
> >    302) krist faughnan, philly, pa
> >    303) kathleen simcoe, college of notre dame,
> baltimore, md.
> >    304) angel gonzalez, baltimore, md.
> >    305)sean howell, ashton, md
> >    306)dan fried arlington, va
> >    307) jen roy vienna, va
> >    308) michelle henry, fairfax, va
> >    309)caroline zuschek, williamsburg, va
> >    310) andy mazzaschi, williamsburg, va
> >    311) courtney griffis boston, mass
> >    312) cameron joel hernandez, germantown, md
> >    313) david mumaugh, bethesda, md
> >    314) janet gilbert, kensington, md
> >    315) andrew hunt, bethesda, md
> >    316) brigham kiplinger, washington, dc
> >    317) sutton kiplinger, washington, dc
> >    318) andi e pinto, washington, dc
> >    319) luci massaro, washington, dc
> >    320) robin beck, napa, ca
> >    321) dan barr, las cruces nm
> >    321) brian murphy eugene or
> >    322) sara stark, santa barbara, ca
> >    323) mary rose colter, sheridan, wy
> >    324) monica anderson, mount vernon, ia
> >    325) emily daws, mount vernon, ia
> >    326) kate moran, mount vernon, ia
> >    327) susan brooks woodbridge, va
> >    328) stacey ashford, sioux falls, sd
> >    329) tiffany s. bartleson, nashville, tn
> >    330) jeremy doe, nashville, tn
> >    331) katrina gomez , co
> >    332) rose freeman, rochester ny
> >    333) iris pena, pharr  tx
> >    334) alicia pena, pharr  tx
> >    335) julie a. sanders, cincinnati, oh
> >    336) teri harrell, fayetteville nc
> >    337) kendra fortin, manchester nh
> >    338) melissa covington, palm bay, fl
> >    339)  crystal jacoby, palm bay, fl
> >    340) jessica ricker, mansfield, pa
> >    341) rosie pagana, mansfield, pa
> >    342) amy m. kuipers, hamburg, pa
>      343) jonathan peters, shippensburg university,
> shippensburg, pa
>      344) tracy bomgardner, shippensburg university,
> pa
>      345) kim mcnair, shippensburg, pa
>      346) samantha zeiss, shippensburg, pa
>


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date:         fri, 29 oct 1999 22:08:27 -0500
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i thought that was the best line in the song,  it's
so full of rhythm just reading it, "my senses said  'it would lead me
astray,'  i said, 'go, go, go.'" amy's delivery is right on the mark.

peace

barb

chakramgrrrl writes  <<i miss that verse...i am a problem child.  i've
been wild all my days. >>

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<<especially where she says if she saw her choice she could find her voice.
that is so poignant, because during that phase of life, we all do examine our
core
values, and we get a bit lost sometimes in trying to find our voice.
all you old broads like me out there, anybody agree with this??>>

almost 35 year old old broad checking in! lol!! anyway, bonnie i think you
hit it on the head that emily may be going thru that mid life thing. i know i
am and i totally identified with soon to be nothing.

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elaine wrote:
>  i don't mean to sound so corny, but
> getting older is getting better imho.
>
> > all you old broads like me out there, anybody agree with this??
        absolutely! i'm 44 and have not had a better time in my life than in the past 2 or 3 years!
deb

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hi karen,

your gw video arrive safely.  i will have everything in the mail by mid next
week.

gram

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more random thoughts and venting....

does anyone else hate reviews? hate hate hate them...in my humble opinion,
reviewers get paid to listen to music that chances are they aren't going to
like. albums get taken out of context and don't get the proper respect they
deserve...it happens with every artist - take tori for example..i've seen
reviewers comment on how tori deals child molestation in "icicle"...fans know
that this song is about masturbation, not child molestation. what happens is
that reviewers listen to these cd's and don't do their homework...sure you
can hate cons - everyone is entitled to their opinion and great - yeehaw -
but i love it...i love the girls, i love them together, i don't want them to
go solo, i don't even want to compare them to each other..like they say,
they're very different...i love philosophy of loss - maybe cause i'm an
atheist and i'm so damn happy to have someone present the problems of
organized religion...who knows. yikes

um problem child...i say the old version stays as problem child - that and go
are clearly two different songs...amy said herself she rewrote the song after
the high school thing went down..

my too sense...feel free to hurl nasty fires of hell at me...

lisa
"father says bow your head like the good book says. well i think the good
book is missing some pages." tori amos

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wow!!  last night's show in dallas was a night i'll never forget.  the
listmeet was tons of fun :))  thankfully, we didn't get thrown out the
restaurant for rearranging the furniture to accomodate all 10 of us, and
then, even though we all had different seats at the arena, all but one of
us managed to stay together before and after the show.

the butchies, aka the band that ritalin forgot, opened and were
great....watch out kate!

amy and emily were outstanding, as usual, and seemed to be enjoying
themselves.  they were talkative and were surprised that we sang along to
every song, old and new.  they said something about not being sure if
anyone would show up because dallas radio never gives them any air time and
then asked us to call the stations and request them!  amy said she liked
the way we sang oziline....they mentioned the crosswords that they liked to
do and, since they played at the bronco bowl (a bowling alley/arena), they
also professed their fondness for bowling :))  emily said that she was the
best among the band at crosswords but then admitted she wasn't...she also
said that amy was the best at rock and roll....

fashion report:  amy was wearing jeans and a funky beige and rust colored
shirt.  emily was wearing all black and had on the glitter eye shadow.
they both looked beautiful :))

setlist:
go
trouble
three hits
get out the map
scooter boys
andy
oziline
power of two
compromise
airplane
shed your skin
cold beer and remote control
gone again
ctf
kid fears
least complicated
shame on you

encore:
everything in its own time
faye tucker
galileo

i still can't believe they sang airplane!  andy was also a pleasant
surprise.  compromise was raucous and perfect and the soul-thrashing scream
in faye tucker was quintessentially amy.  emily did quite a bit of
screaming as well :) we all did....

what a blessed night :))))))
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in a message dated 10/29/99 10:08:59 pm central daylight time,
chakramgrrrl@aol.com writes:

<< ok, how many of you out there are in possession of a bootleg/bootlegs which
contain a song entitled "problem child"............ in the essence of
accuracy, since pc is obviously a neolithic version of go, should we change
all the labels of the boots from problem child to go?
personally, i miss that verse.... i am a problem child, i've been wild all my
days.... *sigh* >>

i think that song can continue to be known as problem child.  i, too, miss
that verse.  in fact that "neolithic" version remains my favorite incarnation
of the song. not that i don't like go - together they tell an interesting
story of personal evolution.  somehow, the ballad of squeaky fromme seems
related to me, but i'm still trying to work out how!

pam in big d

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in a message dated 10/29/99 10:28:23 pm central daylight time,
woodeld@phillynews.com writes:

<< >  i don't mean to sound so corny, but
> getting older is getting better imho.
>
> > all you old broads like me out there, anybody agree with this??
         absolutely! i'm 44 and have not had a better time in my life than in
the past 2 or 3 years!
deb >>

chiming in here from the ripe old age of 40.  much of the time i feel
competent and in control, heading toward the wisdom of my "crone" years.  but
there is a secret place inside where my inner teenager resides, and she
always comes to life at ig concerts.  and apparently for the butchies, too.
who knew?!?

pam in big d

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yes, i hate reviews.  when a movie comes out i never listen towhat the
critics say.  the same goes for music and especially my sweet indigo
girls.  i didn't give them a chance to review cons. i was waiting at the
music store when it opened...just my 2 cents
  peace and love,
         carrie

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i agree.  i absolutely love this album.  i heard almost the entire thing
live this summer.  the girls were in nj and said they were kind of
testing out the new material on us.  i loved it that night, bought the
cd when it came out, and love the cd too.  i think the cd is rockin.  it
puts me in a good mood and keeps me moving.  i think most everyone is
scared of it(people tend not to like what they're scared of)because it
is so different from anything else they have done.  i think it's nice
that they took a break from the norm.  it shows they're not scared to
try and do new and different things.  i think this cd just reflects
learning processes.  again i love it...   peace and love,
      carrie

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haha!  front row, almost center for indigo girls in omaha on dec. 2!

heehee

that's all i have to say right now.  life is good.

love and peace,
dan

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> haha!  front row, almost center for indigo girls in omaha on dec. 2!

i got front row too! sweet! (and 4th row for st. louis, 3rd row for
minneapolis.)

eddie

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hey gang-

i've got a question for ya'll... any dave matthews band on the list who can
recommend a good cd for me to start with? i'm only familiar with a couple of
his songs, but enough that i'd like to give him a try... :)

drop me a line off-list please-
thanks,
  rick
listening to:alison krauss/forget about it

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you don't know you're there till you're stuck in the middle* -emily saliers
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*there ain't no way i'm gonna let this heart mend* -amy ray

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just briefly since i'm still decompressing from the adventure and
catching up on e-mail...

the butchies are great (ask pam, y'all)

the indigo-girls were amazing every night - the sound at the backyard
was pristine and the audience in dallas was fantastic.

loved seeing everybody's reviews since i'd forgotten so many little
things that made the show... (how is this possible??)

and magically enough a major highlight for me was hanging out with y'all
- even if i was channelling sleepy, dopey and a couple of the other
dwarves. it was great. special thanks to jason for making it happen and
thanks to everybody who offered me a place to crash. you folks are just
wonderful.

kristen

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ah, this is wonderful. just got back into town and i'm catching up on
the mail...

and colorado springs... don't hold your breath. and i live here. at
least it's better than it used to be. much better.

cheers,
kristen

faeriegirl ....... wrote:

> got this from the bi-girls list that i'm on.  what a great state : )
>
> joanne
>
> <<
> birth certificate to list two moms
> (boulder) -- boulder district court judge roxanne bailin has
> ruled that the lesbian companion of a   woman made pregnant
> by an anonymous sperm donor can also be listed as a mother
> on the soon-to-be-born child's official birth certificate.
> the biological mother, who is identified only as anne-g,
> says she will share parenting duties with her long-time
> lesbian companion jane-k. judge bailin  ruled that the law
> allows people with no biological connection to assume
> parental rights in certain circumstances. >>
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> that may be as close to the real thing
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if you are kelly hager or know how to get in touch with her, please email
me privately.  there's a question about our boot trade.  thanks.


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i don't know if this has been brought up yet, but, i figured since it
was on my mind, i'd ask...

"andy" - what's the deal with this song?  i saw in the liner notes that
emily thanked an "andy".  is that who the song is for?  she certainly
doesn't seem to be too happy with the andy in the song, that's for
sure.  perhaps the question is too much of a personal one to be asked
here, and, if that's the case, then forgive me - i seek no trouble!  :)

but, i'd be interested in asking if this song is emily's blood and
fire?  i guess ya can't really compare them, but i think you get my
point.  i like the song, but, it's so slow it makes it almost boring - i
almost fall sleep every time i hear it! (in a good way!).

renee

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renee,

i think that "andy" is just a sad love story about unrequited (sp?)
love.  emily said something to that effect during a concert, though i
can't recall which one.  i'm sure i read the concert report here
though, so someone will be more specific than i am i'm sure.

but she did say that it's not actually about her, it's just something
she'd wanted to write.

jean

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> was on my mind, i'd ask...
>
> "andy" - what's the deal with this song?  i saw in the liner notes
> that
> emily thanked an "andy".  is that who the song is for?  she certainly
> doesn't seem to be too happy with the andy in the song, that's for
> sure.  perhaps the question is too much of a personal one to be asked
> here, and, if that's the case, then forgive me - i seek no trouble!
> :)
>
> but, i'd be interested in asking if this song is emily's blood and
> fire?  i guess ya can't really compare them, but i think you get my
> point.  i like the song, but, it's so slow it makes it almost boring
> - i
> almost fall sleep every time i hear it! (in a good way!).
>
> renee
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    when i lived in dallas i would email the zone all the time with request
to play indigo girls and they would always email me back and let me know that
they would.  in fact i did hear it some on there.  so, email them and you
will defiantly hear back from them and get some of the girls stuff on the
air.  \
    also the cool thing is i just found a station here in nashville that is
playing a lot of the girls stuff.  i heard peace tonight the other day and
soon be to nothing today and i only found this station the other day!!!  it
is exciting!!!!
arin

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hey all-

i just got neilly's fab bootleg, to be expected.  is anyone else in love
with "hey little darlin?"  please tell me i'm not the only one.....

so, for your reading pleasure, i've typed out the lyrics. there are a few
places i'm not sure of, y'all help me out!

chris


i said hey little darling
there's something you should know.
this thing's gonna outlive us all
this thing, it won't let us go.
it's gonna break us own to nothing
gonna eat us from the inside out.
i said hey little darling
i don't want you feeling the fallout.

i said the cancer finally took him.
i was watching the trucks pull in.
me and your daddy we had a job
under the ground mining uranium.
some things your daddy leaves you?
and some things he don't.

some things are gonna be here anyhow
some things just won't.
one thing i want you to understand
is that you ain't gotta be no mining man
i course the day that i went down
and i pulled that shit out of the ground.

now we were living over in nevada,
that's where your people come from
grandma would take me and your daddy
on down to the gunnery range
we'd sit and watch the bombs blow
until the sun goes down;

all those colors running like a painted desert
and you get to see it now.
the government boys had something so damn secret
they had to hide it i the desert sand.
[out there ?] the sky's so big, and there ain't no mistaking it,
who's got the winning hand.

i said i've been all the way to alaska, now
to a town called point of hope
they took some of what we've got down here
to see how it would grow.
i hear the lichen [??????]
now it's running through the caribou.
and soon, little darling, you'll get to feel it too.
you'll get to feel it too.

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hey everyone!  um, i called ticketmaster in ft. wayne yesterday, and they
have no knowledge of an indigo girls show there.  what's going on?  anybody
have any info?

thanks,
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don't mind me too much, i'm kind of mad right now.

anybody get the dusty springfield tribute yet?
ladyslipper is the only place i've seen that's selling
it. (i thought they said amazon would sell it?)  i
didn't order it though, they're shipping costs are
crazy.  they won't ship standard to hawaii, express
costs $9, plus add another $3 to that to ship to
hawaii.  at that rate, a company rep better fly out
here and hand deliver a copy to me.

so, uh, anybody want to burn a copy for me?

ok, this might ruffle a few emilyfans' feathers, but
didn't emily use even more clichès in the past?
"thought i knew my mind like the back of my hand," "it
was hard to turn the other cheek," and "i hang around
with a bunch of your black sheep" come to mind.  even
"i'm in search of greener pastures" is sort of a take
on "the grass is always greener..."

this last part could also be titled "why the indigo
girls should not go solo."  i had a cons digipak to
give away during my radio show.  i knew that questions
like, "what was the b side of the first indigo girls
single ever released?" or "the indigo girls often
played at what atlanta club in their independent
days?" would be a little too difficult for the locals.
so i thought, i'll just ask for their names, just
their first names, that should be simple right?  it
took an hour and a half and two tries for someone to
get it right.  (she called first and said, "is it amy
and irene?  eileen?")  the saddest part is, i even
played the 1200 curfews version of language or the
kiss, y'know, the one that starts with amy saying
"we're going to do a song by emily now."

btw, i'll let y'all decide which one should be sexy
and which one should be scary indigo.

lori ann


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<< does anyone know who will open for the girls here in vegas? >>

yeah.  the lovely and talented rose polenzani (www.rosepolenzani.com)(and her
sidekick goody goodrich) are opening for ig in vegas.  they will also be in
phoenix, la, and berkeley and more shows later i think.

wish i could be there.  let us know how she does, if you like her...

jess b

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hey all,

anyone driving to/from the berkeley show from san francisco?  i'd love
to hitch a ride if i could.  i could take bart out there but i'm afraid
i'll get stranded trying to get back if it's close to midnight.  if
you're going my way, reply privately and let me know.  i'll buy you
dinner before the show for you trouble!  (and/or gas or whatever)

thanks,

jean


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in a message dated 10/30/99 1:46:27 pm central daylight time, apthree@aol.com
writes:

<<   when i lived in dallas i would email the zone all the time with request
to play indigo girls and they would always email me back and let me know that
they would.  in fact i did hear it some on there.  so, email them and you
will defiantly hear back from them and get some of the girls stuff on the
air.  \ >>

now that the zone is merge radio, is abby goldstein still one of their dj's?
i always thought she really liked the girls when she was on kera, and she
would be a good person to contact directly.  anybody know?

pam

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hey indigo-heads!  my indy tickets were a whopping $37 each! is this normal?
i'm not used to paying more than about $27 for concert tickets, so i'm kind
of in shock.  also, does anybody know the murat theatre?  we're in row n,
orchestra level.  is this good?  i hope i didn't pay almost forty bucks for
bad seats :(

love,
em

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date:         sat, 30 oct 1999 18:43:39 -0400
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> hey indigo-heads!  my indy tickets were a whopping $37 each! is this normal?

   that's pretty normal -- unless you're going to see melissa etheridge,
springsteen, or sting.  ($75, $65, $150[!!!])  i paid $75 to see the
eagles on the "hell freezes over" tour, and $60 for u2's "popmart."
   it really depends on the venue and artist.  seeing (and meeting!) b.b.
king (aka god) last spring set me back $35 (and a 2 hour wait in the cold,
but...). in nyc, i dropped $20 to see son seals (cool unknown blues dude,
who was playing with jimmy vivino of the max weinberg seven!) -- which is
more than i paid to see the gin blossoms when their single was at the top
of the charts, or ben folds five/train last month.

> also, does anybody know the murat theatre?  we're in row n, orchestra
> level.  is this good?  i hope i didn't pay almost forty bucks for bad
> seats :(

   i haven't seen anything there since they renovated it.  since i was
way way younger back then, i remember not being able to see, even though i
was in the first 20 rows or so.  but i think they've slanted the floor
now, haven't they?

   darius

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er, i also meant to ask, does anyone know how to
pronounce natacha atlas' first name?

(oh and please excuse the grammatical error in my last
post, it should be "their shipping charges," not
"they're shipping charges."  see they had me so
rattled.)

lori (trying to make sense of the lyrics to we are
together)


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i read in yesterday's buffalo news that top tickets for the upcoming csny
tour were going to be priced at $201.00.....not sure if that's in us or
canadian $$$$, but either way, i ain't gonna pay....

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i'm sending y'all a heavily edited version, since this was quite lengthy and
i know we're trying to keep the nigc/minimal igc stuff to a minimum.  but
this definitely seemed worth posting, as falwell himself echos a number of
points listees have made.  also, there's a little treat for any ig fan at the
very end.
  if i may... this all strikes me as very interesting, and i'm interested to
see where he goes with this sudden 180 degree turn.

~ elizabeth

**** date: october 29, 1999      from: jerry falwell
    this past weekend my ministry hosted an anti-violence summit with about
200 homosexual-rights advocates and 200 conservative christians in
attendance.  the purpose of this assembly was to design a dual strategy,
within both constituencies, calling for an end to the epidemic of violence in
our nation.
    i believe the bible - god's infallible word - prohibits all sexual
activity outside the traditional bonds of marriage between a man and woman.
    with 200 homosexuals staring me in the face last saturday, i accentuated
the biblical position that homosexuality is sin.  i also cautioned everyone
attending that meeting that my position would never falter.  i will never
presume to counter god's law.
    however, i believe that the bible also calls me (and all christians, for
that matter) to be a minister of god's truth.  that means that i am to love
all people - no matter how much i may disagree with them.  the anti-violence
forum was therefore designed  to not only join forces with the homosexual
community in reducing the strident rhetoric, on both sides of this debate,
but to build a bridge of love and communication to the millions of gays and
lesbians in our culture.
    nevertheless, while christians cannot condone homosexuality, there is no
biblical mandate that we must viciously rebuke those who embrace that
lifestyle.  the rev. fred phelps of topeka, kansas, who protested our summit
along with a handful of supporters, takes a radically different approach.
phelps and his entourage spat out venomous taunts at homosexuals attending
the summit, as well as  thousands of my church members on sunday morning.  i
believe phelps and his ilk are dangerous because their noxious words are
motivated by hatred.  i believe there is a distinct likelihood that their
words can coerce violence.  that is not how my bible tells me we are to
conduct our lives.
    matthew 5:44 instructs us to, "... love your enemies, bless them that
curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which
despitefully use you, and persecute you."  by loving those who oppose us, we
stand on the high ground and gain an ability to clearly communicate the
gospel of christ.  no one pays any heed  to the message of fred phelps
because it offers no hope of redemption - only retribution.
    i challenge rev. phelps to explain how he can justify his actions when
the bible cautions against such endeavors.  in mark 12:30 and 31, he said,
"and thou shalt love the lord thy god with all thy heart, and with all thy
soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first
commandment.  and the second is like, namely this, thou shalt love thy
neighbor as thyself.  there is none other commandment greater than these."
    god saved me out of a life of sin and he can do it for anyone.  anyone!
carrying signs that reflect alarming messages such as "fags burn in hell,"
strikingly contrasts the biblical command to "preach the gospel to  every
creature." (mark 16:15)
    that is one of the verses that prompted me to agree to host the
anti-violence summit.  my hope is that many more people will now openly
listen to my message because i have clarified that my impetus for preaching
the gospel of christ is his perfect love.  there is no hate motivating my
message and i am going to be ever cautious to ensure that my position is
always motivated in this regard.
    will this summit thwart the death of a homosexual young person at the
hand of a brutal attacker?  will this summit avert christian young people
from being slaughtered in their schools and churches by crazed gunmen?  i can
only hope that it will have a positive impact in saving lives or averting
assaults.
    all people in our nation deserve the right to pursue their lives in a
safe environment.  any christian who lifts a hand against a homosexual does
so without the approval of god.  while i will preach homosexuality as sin
until the day i die, i will also condemn the bitter anger that occasionally
rears its head by those claiming to be christians.  in addition, the
homosexual community must stop their assaults on christians.
    i pray that, through the high visibility of this summit, many individuals
will soon come to know the peace "which passeth all understanding" that paul
described in philippians 4:7.

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in a message dated 10/30/1999 1:46:27 pm central daylight time,
apthree@aol.com writes:

<< also the cool thing is i just found a station here in nashville that is
playing a lot of the girls stuff.  i heard peace tonight the other day and
soon be to nothing today and i only found this station the other day!!!  it
is exciting!!!! >>

even cooler is that you can listen to both of these stations via their web
sites or via broadcast.com.  plus you can view their playlists and vote on
the songs!

peace tonight is on lightning 100's playlist right now.  their url is
www.wrlt.com

soon be to nothing is on the pheonix's (lightning 100's sister station)
playlist.  their url is www.wyyb.com

go vote/listen!!!!!

peace y'all!


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barb i am so sorry you're not liking cons!  the only advice i can offer
is that is really does have some beautiful complex harmonies, speakovers
and singovers, plus the added benefit of guests, but i needed a few
listens to really get in touch with the beauty of this cd.  for
instance, don't you guys think emily is singing with new feeling in her
voice?  i really hear a poignancy in several spots.  andy "i know i'm
second" is one of those.  anbody notice others?  the cold beer song has
at least one.  does anybody know what amy is saying when she starts to
sing over emily near the end?  i am maddened by the fact that you really
can't hear what she says.

next, on sister, i bet i listened to it 4 or 5 times thinking it was
anice mellow song, not even noticing the buildup going on.  geez.  what
a great song, and i really lvoe the industrial stuff added in the
reprise where it sounds like gentle and then harder rain.  try that one
on earphones.

and i definitely think cons is amy's best songwriting ever.  i tell you
what though, i really wish she had included the "problem child" lyrics
for go.  they would fit in nicely.  anyway, i think ozilline is just a
beautiful piece, and i also love compromise and gone again, and faye
tucker is growing on me.  i am beginning to love it.

the one song that i am not crazy about is phil of loss.  it's marginal,
and i agree with whoever said she should have kept working on it for a
future album.  some of the lines are nice, some are too cliche, but it's
too singsongy for me.

a special thanks to all my sisters getting past the dreaded age 35 life
crisis out there!  almost 40 and finally happy!

bonnie

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in a message dated 10/30/99 5:01:05 pm pacific daylight time,
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  the bible is god' s infallible word?? damn, someone should have told
me...i'll go buy one today :p

    <<     all people in our nation deserve the right to pursue their lives
in a
safe environment.  >>
whoa...scary shit...a falwell statement i agree with..what's this world
coming to?

oh and amy and irene (oops i mean emily) are both sexy :)
lisa
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hi folks,

well, "peace tonight" has earned a place on 101.9/wtmx's playlist, which is
only about 20 songs long.  i've already heard in twice this evening!  on
their website, you can vote on all the songs, and it's doing slight better
than so-so, coming in with about 70% of the people saying they think it's
"good" or "a favorite."  so i thought i would send an email out here, so
that everyone who is so inclined can go vote on it.  :-)  here's the
url:  http://www.wtmx.com/cgi-bin/musictest/musictest.cgi?start.  if that
doesn't take you right to the playlist you can find it by taking the "on
the air" link from the first page, which is at www.wtmx.com.

cheers,
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yay carrie knepp - i love people who feel the same as i do :) heehee...i
bought cons on the day it came out too.

andy - i was listening to a boot that a kind soul sent me and em says again
how it's about a girl in love with a farm boy - "it's very sad" :) she says
how all her songs on the new record are depressing...then does cold beer and
remote control - love this song! i think it's my fave along with johnny
rotten/compromise - man amy kicks ass :) can't wait for berkeley. how does
everyone keep getting front row tickets?? i'm perplexed. in cali all i've got
to deal with ticketbastard and basswipes. yuk. hope people are going to the
show in idaho - i went to id for a tori concert and had a blast - idaho rocks
:)

oh and i'm 26 but soon to be nothing gets me too...definitely mid-life
crisis..welcome to my world

oh back to melissa for a tiny bit and then i'll shut up again...someone told
me that she included lyrics in the regular cd - i have the ltd edition and no
lyrics - unless you count the cdrom bit - which i don't - you can't even
print them out. bummer. still mad that her tickets are so fucking
expensive..$75, yikes

oh - rose polenzani - guys, she is the shit...especially live - she kicks
some serious butt. did i mention i can't wait for berkeley??

hee
lisa
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don't say that, cause i'm scared to, but i wish i wish i wish.." ~rose
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>  unfortunately, the power of ray's new songs is
>  undermined by emily saliers' failure to rise to the
>  occasion.

>  but her songs suffer from sophomoric lyrics"

how dare this women cut my girl like that!

this interviewer definately is in need of a big
fat wedgy ....  oh, list monster, where are you?

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people, please stop posting petitions to the list.  while most of us can
readily say we believe in the cause, it's better to just post, "folks, i have
this petition... if you're interested, please email me privately."
especially if you don't check it out yourself... this particular petition is
no longer valid.  an aol profile of this addy (snippet below) says the
petition was "completed" 10 days ago.

dee

in a message dated 10/29/99 11:09:30 pm, you wrote:

<<> >    not, please do not kill it. send it on to the email address:
> >    allrunique@aol.com>>

member name:    re: the hate crimes prevention act of 1999, hcpa (h.r. 1082/
s.622)
location:       10/22/99-over 100,000 names have now been added to the master
"stop the hate"  petition.
birthdate:  the petition is complete. >>

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hey folks!

the butchies were back in austin today!  they played with a few other
bands at gaby & mo's (coffee shop/cafe/bar) and they were great!!  they
were really sweet afterwards too and signed my cd.  :)  melissa (the
drummer) wore her gay-french-pumpkin costume, kaia (lead singer) wore a
queen amidala (from star wars) costume, and ali (bass) wore a jedi
thing.  it was hysterical!  a fabulous and goofy time was had by all.

amy

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unfortunately, when the merge took over the zone, abby goldstein was one of
the casualties, along with the quality of the station.  apparently, they
wanted to completley change the image and she was too big a personality.
>from what i hear, i think she got a job with one of the local country
stations.

<<

now that the zone is merge radio, is abby goldstein still one of their dj's?
i always thought she really liked the girls when she was on kera, and she
would be a good person to contact directly.  anybody know?
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> >  unfortunately, the power of ray's new songs is
> >  undermined by emily saliers' failure to rise to the
> >  occasion.
>
> >  but her songs suffer from sophomoric lyrics"

hi everyone!

it's julie emailing you straight (no, not really ;-) from atlanta's emory.
i've been chewing on this for a while.  this review is really interesting to
me. i am an amy person.  i think cons is an excellent album.  amy is at her
best and emily's stuff is pretty good.  it's not the best it has ever been,
and some strong amy songs (like "compromise" <drool...>) outshine some weak
emily songs (like "peace tonight" major single?  what were they thinking?).
but i would not go as far as to say that emily's songs on this cd suck.  or
that amy should consider a solo career. that's going more than a little too
far, in my humble opinion.

thoughts?  objections?  cries of outrage?


julie ;-)
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<< this particular petition is
no longer valid.  an aol profile of this addy (snippet below) says the
petition was "completed" 10 days ago. >>

yeah, and i thought i read somewhere the other day that the hate crimes
prevention bill is dead this session.  :-(


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<<  the bible is god' s infallible word?? damn, someone should have told
me...i'll go buy one today :p >>

i always thought the bible was the *inspired* word of god.  an set of books
inspired by god, but  written down (and subsequently translated though the
ages) by fallible men.

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alright, y'all . . .i've just had the best week ever . . .

monday- road trip to houston to see the pet shop boys; come back to austin
at 3 in the morning

tuesday-go to the backyard, check out three finger cowboy and indigo girls,
meet three finger cowboy (for those of y'all there- i was the one that
requested 1432- they were really suprised that anybody in austin *knew*
their songs), the whole show was amazing

wednesday- go to the backyard, check out the butchies and indigo girls from
the front row!!!!!!!  it was amazing . . . i went from having a general
admission ticket to sitting front row at no cost to me!!!! woohooo!  oh, the
funnest part of this was during land of canaan my friend and i looked over
in the wing, saw the butchies, waved to them, and then all of us (the us
includes the butchies) started jumping around and rocking out to land of
canaan- it was soooo cute!  oh, and i got a pick!  after countless ig
concerts, i finally got a pick . . . very happy.

friday- went to a protest for gary graham (innocent man on death row in
texas) at the governor's mansion- i got there early and was walking around,
just checking out the place from outside the gate.  well, george w. bush was
having a little garden party, but he had stepped to the side to talk on his
cell phone . . .he saw me on the side looking in and waved at me . . . so i
flicked him off . . . it was great . . .

saturday (today)- went and saw the butchies again at gaby & mo's- damn,
those girls are so funny . . .  queen amadala (or queen i'm-a-man-duh as she
became known as)(kaia), the jedi knight (alison), and gerard depardieu as a
gay pumpkin (melissa) . . . while i was standing in line for the bathroom
kaia and melissa got into this little fake fight where melissa threatened to
expose queen amadala as queen i'm-a-man-duh- very very cute

i actually wrote a really in-depth review of both ig concerts, but hotmail
sucks and deleted all of it right before i hit send.  pissed me off.

so, that was my week . . . i can't decide what the best moment was . . . but
flicking off george w. bush is probably the best story.

~tay

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hey!

well, i may be missing the entire ig fall/winter tour, but i am introducing the girls to a lot of my japanese friends.

today, my friend erina (i gave her swamp-o last month) and i were talking about what kinds of music we like.  anyway, she mentioned that she really liked the sound of the indigo girls and that she liked the cd.  i got really excited and started speaking at 100 words a minute (which is odd for me to be able to do in japanese), and started telling her all about amy and emily, their past cd's, their concerts, etc.  if she ever comes to visit me in the states, she wants to go to an ig show!  i am excited that the indigo girls are starting (really just starting) to become known over here!  maybe one day their music will be at karaoke!

allrighty, that was just my (small) tidbit of excitement for the day!

:-) karen

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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 11:19:52 -0500
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subject:      re: andy & carrie k, more ranting
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thanks lisa...

ok, what i know about the song andy.  when i saw them in philly a couple
weeks ago, emily introduced this song as being about a girl who was in
love with a farmboy.  that's all she said.  so if that helps i don't
know.

peace and love,
     carrie

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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 08:45:57 -0800
reply-to:     melissa anderson <anderson@biostat.washington.edu>
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i've got 2 wonderful tickets for the pullman wa show that i can't use.
they are in the 5th row!!  please e-mail me if interested.

thanks,

melissa


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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 11:42:24 -0500
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from:         havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com>
subject:      a place for relevant nigc:
              http://www.egroups.com/group/indigogirls

hkf's,

>from time to time various ig-related topics pop up on this list which
generate a large number of posts which aren't directly related to the girls
and their music, and which can become somewhat of an annoyance to those on
the list who have no interest in the topic, especially those on digest.
after one such incidence last year, tigger set up a list on www.egroups.com
as a home for those of us who tend to get a bit passionate about ig-related
social issues and other such tangents.  post from the egroups list are
readily identified by the subject line:  subject: [indigogirls] etheridge
list info?

to sign up, just go to www.egroups.com and follow the signup procedure; then
search for indigogirls.  quite a number of us who are regular contributors
to the 'big list' are also subbed to egroups.

rock on!
tim

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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 12:08:33 est
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yep, 36 here and having the time of my life and raising 2 kids , along with
my partner....who also hold amy and emily dear to their hearts!!! just came
back down to earth after an absolute rockin' time with the girls over in
austin...awesome show...along with the butchies!!!
peace y'all
kris

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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 12:15:49 est
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i found this article to be very interesting and believe me, i was really
happy to see this being posted. going to church every sunday and having the
pastor's preach about the evils of homosexuality drives me up a wall. the
bible does speak against it and calls it a sin but it is definitely not the
unforgiveable sin! it's right there in the book of leviticus! anyways...
there's my bible lesson to you all today. later!
love, peace (tonight), indigo forever,
alyssa

in a message dated 10/30/99 7:01:05 pm eastern standard time,
listserv@netspace.org writes:

<< any christian who lifts a hand against a homosexual does
so without the approval of god.  while i will preach homosexuality as sin
until the day i die, i will also condemn the bitter anger that occasionally
rears its head by those claiming to be christians.  >>

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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 12:43:49 est
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my free month of aol expires today so i'm going to shut down my aol account
and go back to my local isp because it's cheaper... i'll be back by tuesday.
don't do anything fun until i come back - i don't want to miss anything!!!!
:)

~~jennifer
************
"tom appeared on the sidewalk with a bucket of whitewash and a long-handled
brush.  he surveyed the fence, and all gladness left him, and a deep
melancholy settled down upon his spirit.  thirty yards of board fence nine
feet high!  life to him seemed hollow, and existence but a burden."   ~mark
twain, _tom sawyer_

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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 12:43:46 -0500
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subject:      falwell
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hey y'all,

i recall seeing a televised interview with falwell last year in the
aftermath of the matt shepard tragedy in which an interviewer asked the
beaming bubba if anti-gay rhetoric might have been a contributing factor, to
which ol' jer' expressed a condescending incredulity.  i wonder if the same
turnabout would have occurred if dylan klebold and eric harris and their
friends had been gunned down by a couple of crazed christian jocks?

a local paper, the outcome, recently reported thirty-seven major acts of
violence against members of the glbt community in the year since matt died.
i realize much of falwell's posturing has to do with political concerns, but
citing the gay community for violence against christians makes about as much
sense as citing the early christians for cruelty to the lions.

i also recall reading a news story that implied that klebold and harris were
part of a 'homosexual gothic' group, but i never read anything more
substantial than mere innuendo.

while i personally welcome falwell's decision to tone down the rhetoric, and
in particular his confrontation with our *dear friend* fred phelps, i
personally fail to see the wisdom in allowing the fears and prejudices of
men who thought the earth was flat to rule my thinking.....

peace,
tim

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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 14:28:38 est
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good afternoon all!!

    could anyone tell me about the tabernacle venue in atlanta?  it sounds
like an interesting arena.  i heard that this is general admission for
december 16 & 17.

    another question, the new tour shirt, does anyone have an explanation of
the person with the scathe?  and let me slip one more in there, i have seen
the close-up of amy's tattoo on her arm but what about the one on her chest i
have only seen a few glimpses of it.

    i believe that i am going to the atlanta show (even though the funding is
short) but after the show in mobile a week ago i cannot avoid it.  i'm sure
their are others out there that can relate.

    have a great halloween all !!!

    colline

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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 15:01:54 est
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hey gang- an interesting lil' thing... there's a new collection of double
disc sets out by sony collectively called the soundtrack of the century-
they're also collected in one big, beautiful box set with a big ol' coffee
table book if you've got 330 bucks to spare- i'm hoping santa really likes me
this year... anyway, indigo girls made it onto the folk, gospel, and blues
comp with "galileo". :) i think this is extremely cool. (sidenote: one of my
faves, bic runga actually has a song on the international comp! woohoo!) of
course all the songs on these compilations are by sony artists from sony
albums, which explains the huge empty space where rent belongs on the
broadway set. <grin>

</end random fact o'the day>
   rick
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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 12:14:10 -0800
reply-to:     dawn manuel <venussage@yahoo.com>
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i e-mailed merge yesterday and asked for ig and i got a reply from
brandon saying he would "see what he could do".   well, he did nothing!
what is wrong with these texans???  i'm sorry, you guys, i just do not
like dallas.
oy!

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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 12:23:23 -0800
reply-to:     dawn manuel <venussage@yahoo.com>
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you guys, i had a very interesting dream last night.  i dreamed that
some guy had written an unfavorable review of my girls and i had to
meet him.  i was cussing him up one side and down the other.  he didn't
even know the correct names of the songs.  i told him that i thought
his writing sucked and he was an awful, awful, man.  :)
just thought you might enjoy this tale of "the ass-chewing of a
reviewer"!
at least i'm assertive in my dreams, anyway!

btw- i met this girl who said she stayed after the concert in dallas
the other night and got to bowl with the girls.  i told her to please
go away because i couldn't deal with my jealousy.  *sigh*

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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 15:48:22 est
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in a message dated 10/31/99 2:23:30 pm, julie writes:

<< amy should consider a solo career. that's going more than a little too
far, in my humble opinion.

thoughts?  objections?  cries of outrage?
>>

that entire review is an outrage...where did it come from...

geez...i mean aside from the fact that i think she's wrong, it's all
unmitigated opinion. no examples,no reasoned thoughts...not exactly what a
reviewer is supposed to do. it's supposed to include some context besides "i,
reviewer, think it sucks. nanananabooboo."

i interviewed amy on friday. i didnt think so before, but i am more than
positive now that these two are not breaking up any time soon. she sounds
like they are having the time of their lives and digging this new album and
the band.

hopefully i will get some time with emily this coming week, but still
negotiating with epic and i might have to go with just the amy interview.
send me good emily vibes please. the story will be up on the sonicnet site
soon after that. will post the url when it goes up. after that i will post
the outtakes as thanks for all your great suggestions.

happy halloween!

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