lifeblood: listlogs: 1999-11a


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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 20:04:49 -0500
reply-to:     ron mcbay <usul@mindspring.com>
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from:         ron mcbay <usul@mindspring.com>
subject:      re: tabernacle
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>from: colline h. stevens <irish4998@aol.com>
>
>    could anyone tell me about the tabernacle venue in atlanta?  it sounds
>like an interesting arena.  i heard that this is general admission for
>december 16 & 17.

the tabernacle is a great venue.  it's an old place of worship that's been
converted to a concert venue.  during the '96 olympics, it was the location of
the house of blues, but they left town after the olympics was over.  it's one of
the few remaining viable concert venues in downtown atlanta.  (parking is
sparse.)  there are two or three separate balconies (which may be reserved
seating for this show) with excellent sight lines.  plus, there's an open floor
where you're right up against the stage for the general admission folks.
there's lots of back rooms (including a pool room) and bars on the different
levels with the artist on closed-circuit tv.  there's also a "cellar" level with
its own separate stage, bar and (seated?) viewing area where they can have
simultaneous acts going on.  when it's packed, it has a great vibe but it can be
kind of cavernous if there's not many folks there.

saw everlast there: excellent.  saw emily play a couple of songs ("it's alright"
and "ghost"?) there once at some kind of aids benefit.  the late, lamented mary
fortune express was on that same bill and was great, but there were only a
handful of people in the place to witness it.

ig should draw enough people for it to be a not-to-be-missed show.

ron
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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 20:15:22 est
reply-to:     ctofine@aol.com
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from:         claudia rollins <ctofine@aol.com>
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how do you sign off of the listserve?  i can't seem to remember.  i'd like to
sign up on a different e-mail account.

thanks!

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date:         mon, 1 nov 1999 12:22:02 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the news-only list... please
direct your replies to the original sender at
jfeia@prodigy.net...

-sherlyn

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>date: sun, 31 oct 1999 16:55:56 -0800
>from: julie feia <jfeia@prodigy.net>
>subject: [ig-news] tickets for 11/4 la show
>
>i have two tickets available for the show at the wiltern.  sorry for the
>late notice--i thought i had them sold on ebay, but the deal fell
>through.  so, the tickets are in the loge, row ee, seats 14-16 which are
>actually next to each other despite the numbering.  i'm charging $82 for
>the pair or (surprisingly) $41 for each.  i can send priority or
>overnight depending on what the buyer is willing to pay for.  if you're
>interested, please contact me as soon as possible via email, or feel
>free to call me at (909)369-5078.
>
>thanks,
>carrie jean schroeder

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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 17:24:27 -0800
reply-to:     jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
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from:         jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
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ok,  i read it... naturally ever skeptical bone in my body was looking
for the holes or the catch or the subtle digs.  i have to admit that i
didn't really find any... that is until this line near the end:

>>in addition, the homosexual community must stop their assaults on
christians<<

fine... ok... so he mentioned the violence against us in his article
(matthew shepherd, the school killings etc), but he didn't mention
these acts that we have committed against christians.  can anyone sit
one or two of these acts of hatred by the homosexual community?  can
he?  or is he only talking about our disdain for the churches that have
up until now made us unwelcome?  it seems to me that the only
"assaults" that we have thrown in their direction have been in direct
response to their assaults on us.

a big part of me would like to believe that he is really takin this 180
degree turn... but i'm afraid that he has done too much damage thus far
for me to just smile and say "oh gee you changed your mind" and
celebrate.

<grumblemumblerant>

jean

--- "e. moranian bolles" <wishmonstr@aol.com> wrote:
> i'm sending y'all a heavily edited version, since this was quite
> lengthy and
> i know we're trying to keep the nigc/minimal igc stuff to a minimum.
> but
> this definitely seemed worth posting, as falwell himself echos a
> number of
> points listees have made.  also, there's a little treat for any ig
> fan at the
> very end.
>   if i may... this all strikes me as very interesting, and i'm
> interested to
> see where he goes with this sudden 180 degree turn.
>
> ~ elizabeth
>
> **** date: october 29, 1999      from: jerry falwell
>     this past weekend my ministry hosted an anti-violence summit with
> about
> 200 homosexual-rights advocates and 200 conservative christians in
> attendance.  the purpose of this assembly was to design a dual
> strategy,
> within both constituencies, calling for an end to the epidemic of
> violence in
> our nation.
>     i believe the bible - god's infallible word - prohibits all
> sexual
> activity outside the traditional bonds of marriage between a man and
> woman.
>     with 200 homosexuals staring me in the face last saturday, i
> accentuated
> the biblical position that homosexuality is sin.  i also cautioned
> everyone
> attending that meeting that my position would never falter.  i will
> never
> presume to counter god's law.
>     however, i believe that the bible also calls me (and all
> christians, for
> that matter) to be a minister of god's truth.  that means that i am
> to love
> all people - no matter how much i may disagree with them.  the
> anti-violence
> forum was therefore designed  to not only join forces with the
> homosexual
> community in reducing the strident rhetoric, on both sides of this
> debate,
> but to build a bridge of love and communication to the millions of
> gays and
> lesbians in our culture.
>     nevertheless, while christians cannot condone homosexuality,
> there is no
> biblical mandate that we must viciously rebuke those who embrace that
> lifestyle.  the rev. fred phelps of topeka, kansas, who protested our
> summit
> along with a handful of supporters, takes a radically different
> approach.
> phelps and his entourage spat out venomous taunts at homosexuals
> attending
> the summit, as well as  thousands of my church members on sunday
> morning.  i
> believe phelps and his ilk are dangerous because their noxious words
> are
> motivated by hatred.  i believe there is a distinct likelihood that
> their
> words can coerce violence.  that is not how my bible tells me we are
> to
> conduct our lives.
>     matthew 5:44 instructs us to, "... love your enemies, bless them
> that
> curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which
> despitefully use you, and persecute you."  by loving those who oppose
> us, we
> stand on the high ground and gain an ability to clearly communicate
> the
> gospel of christ.  no one pays any heed  to the message of fred
> phelps
> because it offers no hope of redemption - only retribution.
>     i challenge rev. phelps to explain how he can justify his actions
> when
> the bible cautions against such endeavors.  in mark 12:30 and 31, he
> said,
> "and thou shalt love the lord thy god with all thy heart, and with
> all thy
> soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the
> first
> commandment.  and the second is like, namely this, thou shalt love
> thy
> neighbor as thyself.  there is none other commandment greater than
> these."
>     god saved me out of a life of sin and he can do it for anyone.
> anyone!
> carrying signs that reflect alarming messages such as "fags burn in
> hell,"
> strikingly contrasts the biblical command to "preach the gospel to
> every
> creature." (mark 16:15)
>     that is one of the verses that prompted me to agree to host the
> anti-violence summit.  my hope is that many more people will now
> openly
> listen to my message because i have clarified that my impetus for
> preaching
> the gospel of christ is his perfect love.  there is no hate
> motivating my
> message and i am going to be ever cautious to ensure that my position
> is
> always motivated in this regard.
>     will this summit thwart the death of a homosexual young person at
> the
> hand of a brutal attacker?  will this summit avert christian young
> people
> from being slaughtered in their schools and churches by crazed
> gunmen?  i can
> only hope that it will have a positive impact in saving lives or
> averting
> assaults.
>     all people in our nation deserve the right to pursue their lives
> in a
> safe environment.  any christian who lifts a hand against a
> homosexual does
> so without the approval of god.  while i will preach homosexuality as
> sin
> until the day i die, i will also condemn the bitter anger that
> occasionally
> rears its head by those claiming to be christians.  in addition, the
> homosexual community must stop their assaults on christians.
>     i pray that, through the high visibility of this summit, many
> individuals
> will soon come to know the peace "which passeth all understanding"
> that paul
> described in philippians 4:7.
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date:         sun, 31 oct 1999 22:00:17 est
reply-to:     jenindgo@aol.com
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from:         jennifer belton <jenindgo@aol.com>
subject:      berkeley listmeet next weekend
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    amy and i drove into berkeley today to find the theatre and a close
location for a meet before the show.  here's what we've decided upon:

    ~listmeet for the saturday 11/6 show:  5:30pm at the original mel's diner
            2240 shattuck ave. berkeley- on the corner of kitteridge &
shattuck.  from the theatre (1930 allston way), walk up allston way 1 block &
turn left on shattuck.

    we aren't sure about having a meet for sunday's show yet.  all interested
listees attending either show, please e-mail me privately before the
3rd(wednesday).     jenindgo@aol.com

    hope to meet a lot of the bay area listees there!
    *** 6 days and counting! ***  jennifer

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date:         mon, 1 nov 1999 00:09:13 est
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in a message dated 10/31/99 3:21:35 pm est, venussage@yahoo.com writes:

<< btw- i met this girl who said she stayed after the concert in dallas
the other night and got to bowl with the girls.  i told her to please
go away because i couldn't deal with my jealousy.  *sigh* >>

i'd just like to say that i think it's really cool that they like to bowl
(like if they read this post, they'd somehow feel better about themselves).
it's so fun!

btw, i'd prolly do the exact oppsite and drive that girl crazy asking about
every single detail of the time she spent with amy, emily, and whoever else
was there}:)

(and the point of this post would be...?)

pax, celeste:)

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date:         mon, 1 nov 1999 00:15:03 est
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hello everybody =)  i emailed the list about a few days back about getting a
gay-straight alliance chartered at my school.  well, the asb voted and it
passed by one vote.  the first time they voted it was a tie, but they had to
vote again...thankfully it went my way.  i guess that someone brought up the
fact that i had contacted the aclu and they were interested in my case, and
that scared a lot of people.  so, that may not have been the way i had
intended to get this club chartered, but i suppose that it worked.  i just
wanted to thank everybody that responded because i needed all the support i
could get.  thanks again everybody =)))


                                ---lindy =)

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date:         mon, 1 nov 1999 01:47:51 +0000
reply-to:     smackenz@scrippscol.edu
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despite the attempts of a busted sam's club cash register and the bad traffic
on the 15 to keep us from getting to sdsu on time, marcy and i made it with
time to spare. i was asking the woman next to me if she knew who the opening
act was. (marcy and i were really really hoping for the slim chance that
danielle howle would be there.) she wasn't sure but she got my hopes up when
she said rose polenzani sounded familiar. nope, it was vonda shepard of all
people. emily came out to introduce her. she did a nice set, but being not
much of a vonda fan i couldn't tell you a whole lot more. oh, wait, she did
start to ask something and then she stopped. we were like, what? then she says
i was going to ask if there were any women out there who had ever asked a man
to marry them. we all had a big laugh over that one. i was so happy that when
the girls came on just about everyone stood up and a good portion of the crowd
stayed standing/dancing through the whole concert. i had these great 4th row
tickets (which were really 3rd since the 1st row was no where to be seen) that
were pretty much right in front of amy. happy sam. fashion report: amy in the
blue shirt with brown flowers, shiny dark blue pants, blue suede boots; emily
in black pants, white shirt, and black blouse; other band members in assorted
halloween costumes. actually, they just had on head bands (kitty ears, a halo,
what was the cello player wearing?) but it was cute. set list:

go
trouble
tried to be true
virginia woolf
gone again
peace tonight
scooter boys
soon be to nothing
three hits
closer to fine
ozilline (i cannot tell you all how much i love this song)
cold beer and punkins (according to the set list)
shed you skin (yes folks, that's emily letting out those incredible wails that
sound more like and instrument than a voice)
get out the map (emily showed off her "kick ass black banjo" and then amy and
emily said many nice things about the dixie chicks)
sister (played instead of compromise since sister was actually requested)
power of two (emily "really fucks up" on the shiny little trinkets part)
shame on you ("i think we were on the same boat back in 1964")
--
baby don't you break my heart slow (with vonda of course)
faye tucker
galileo

more thoughts from sam...there were jack o' lanters all over the stage and amy
said they'd made them today. they were really neat. no one yelled for galileo
and there really wasn't yelling during those nice quiet parts in the songs.
amy was talking about having a costume contest, and marcy says that amy was
saying something about some woman in a hooters costume in the front. it had
amy and emily luaghing pretty hard. sulli came out with emily's guitar for
galileo and she was dressed in this hilarious costume. she was miss guitar
tech usa or something like that. red frilly dress, curly blond wig, and a sash
proclaiming her title. it was so great. marcy and i yelled hello and we love
you at sulli so much while she was setting up that she started to ignore us.
oh well. afterward marcy got me a set list and i got one of the plastic skull
rings that was being chucked off the stage. some roadie took away emily's mic
stand while it still had 4 more picks on it. argh. 2 of them weren't yellow
but were purple. anyone seen these new picks? all i can say is i want one. i
did boot the concert (along with several other people who were all listening
to their tapes while leaving the parking lot) and it's pretty good. but please
speak up if there's anyone out there with a really good one (like that ever
happens). i also got my camera in and took a couple rolls. i'll develop them
tomorrow night. i hope a few turn out good. i picked up my bumbershoot photos
today finally and there's actually quite a few good ones. hmmm, i guess that's
all for now. this is mighty long as it is. two more concerts this week and i'm
hoping to here johnny rotten and compromise.
-sam (who learned that you need to keep the take-out boxes upright if you
don't want sauce all over your shirt)

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date:         mon, 1 nov 1999 02:02:37 +0000
reply-to:     smackenz@scrippscol.edu
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from:         froglady <smackenz@scrippscol.edu>
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so while i'm here thinking about how i should get some sleep but not feeling
up to it (10 am calculus be damned) quite yet, i thought i'd propose a
claremont listmeet. i have a feeling it'll just be the crazy listees here that
i already know, but anyone else is welcome. perhaps we could just meet up at
the motley (the scripps coffee house for those of you who don't know, and a
very cool place too) around 6:30 or 7:00 and chew the fat a while and then
walk down to pomona together. oh, wait, i think i remember that the motley
doesn't open in the evening until 8. hmmm, i'm sure we can think of something.
we could drive all the way out to donut man or something. anyways, email if
interested. there's plenty to do around here. i promise to get off the
computer now and not email anymore until getting some sleep.
-sam (gee this orange wristband from the concert is festive)
p.s. would someone pleeeeease like to buy my extra ticket for l.a. on thursday
even though there's lots of other extras? hey, i had to give it one more try, right?

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date:         mon, 1 nov 1999 02:38:15 -0800
reply-to:     the redheaded goddess <thatredheadedgirl@yahoo.com>
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hi all,

according to pollstar, michelle malone will be the
opening band at the utah show.

later,
diana


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date:         mon, 1 nov 1999 12:57:20 +0100
reply-to:     "i am 32 flavors and then some..." <tisara@www.webworqs.com>
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november 1
longwell.ls@juno.com- l'sly
"i wasted time and now time doth waste me"

betsy bertiaux
bbertiaux@earthlink.net

november 4
liltree@yahoo.com (lori ann)

november 4 ('67)
imat39@docusystems.durham.net (tami waters)

november 5
j.f.l.devaney@aston.ad.uk (john)

november 6 ('73)
ml5x+@andrew.cmu.edu (michael anthony leonard)
"don't you write it down, remember this in your head"
"how recklessly my time has been spent"
"replace the need with love"
"and i dreamed your dream for you
and now your dream is real"

november 6
ryan blackhawke
"our resident hamster...er...hempster"
"one day the war will stop and we'll grow a peaceful crop"
emily saliers -- "trouble"


have a great one - and happy november, y'all :)

love and peace,
audra
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date:         mon, 1 nov 1999 21:20:13 +0900
reply-to:     "karen, the biggest indigo girls bitch of japan"
              <prochoicer@gurlmail.com>
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from:         "karen, the biggest indigo girls bitch of japan"
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hey y'all!

i would really love to hear a boot of one of the recent fall shows, since i am missing the entire cons tour!

is there anyone out there who has a good boot of one of the recent shows?  if so, i will send a tape, a return envelope, and enough money to cover postage to japan (sorry, i don't have any us stamps with me).

i would greatly apperciate that!

:-) karen

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date:         mon, 1 nov 1999 13:41:40 gmt
reply-to:     jen meklenburg <jenmek@hotmail.com>
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so, did anyone dress up like amy and emily for halloween??


peace and pride,
- jen mek

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i hope this hasn't been posted before.
i thought it was interesting.
--jamie


fortune small business magazine  vol. 9, no. 8
november 1999
page: 21-22

live wire by: carlye adler, katherine bruce, arlyn tobias gajilan, anne
ashby gilbert, rathe miller, and tara weingarten

quote taken without permission.  any typing mistakes are mine.

bruce willis, busboy?

most performers stop waiting tables after their big break. not emily
saliers, one half of the folk rock due the indigo girls and owner of the
trendy new restaurant, wine bar, and gift shop watershed.  the restaurant,
which saliers recently opened outside atlanta with three no-so-famous
friends, has received rave reviews.  business has been so good (insert:
picture of smiling emily in black stripped shirt with silver jewelry, wine
glass, and wine bottle at watershed.) that saliers and company may branch
out to other atlanta neighborhoods.  unlike the boys at the recently
bankrupted planet hollywood, saliers isn't afraid to pour refills, bus
tables, and sweep floors.  "restaurant owners can't be all about glitz and
glamour," she says.  "when they are, their restaurants don't last long."
it's a little too late for bruce and arnald, but it's still a good tip.

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date:         mon, 1 nov 1999 06:40:38 -0800
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nope i went in my satin pj's and black merry widow......what was
i you might ask....why i was "ready for bed" wherever it might
have led me.... tee heee


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subject:      re: yay bowling!
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i don't know if i could have "bowled" with amy ray standing there...  my
toungue would be in my throat, my stomach would be down to my knees(or
is it the other way around...see how flustered i am just thinking about
it...)  i know amy and emily are people just like the rest of us, but
wow, just to hang out with them... how lucky can one person get.
peace and love,
     carrie

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i agree.  what an outrage...  it's cool for amy and emily to  their own
things, i.e. daemon records and watershed the retauraunt.  but for
either of them to go solo?  musically what is one without the other?
maybe if they did solo projects, but stayed together...  but i think
that would be too much  do.  i don't know what i'll ever do if my
beloved girls break up.  i remeber seeing an interview once, and thay
were asked what keeps them together.  they replied living with wondering
if the other one is going to want it to end first...
peace and love,
     carrie

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here's a question:

if amy and emily each did a solo album and they were released on the same
day, whose album would you buy first, and why?

i'd buy amy's album first, just cause she's so damn cool!


tami

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on      mon, 1 nov 1999 10:30:05 -0500, tami damron wrote:

> here's a question:
>
> if amy and emily each did a solo album and they were released on the same
> day, whose album would you buy first, and why?

this question seems sacrilegious to me. i think i would go to a store, pick
up both albums and buy them together.  does it matter which one gets scanned
first?  in this case, you put them right next to one another on the counter
and let the clerk decide.

julie ;-)

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hey all.. i recieved a 12" vinyl this summer of shed your skin remixes... i
have the blue/red ep's that were done with tom morello, but these are
different.  there are probably 6 new versions on each side.. mostly techno
beat, meant for clubs i guess.  anyways, i had never heard of this.. anyone
else have it or know why/when exactly it was put out?

thanks-
trooper

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do you think if you dressed up and ig that anyone
would realize who you were? maybe with wigs and
guitars, and only if you went with a friend as the duo
:) still...
i went as a shrubbery which as far as i can see is
about as nigc as you can get. i guess i could have
pretended the flowers on my costume were swamp
ophelias :)

jon/jack/turtle

--- jen meklenburg <jenmek@hotmail.com> wrote:
> so, did anyone dress up like amy and emily for
> halloween??
>
>
> peace and pride,
> - jen mek
>
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i now have tickets to eau claire, minneapolis and milwaukee.  i'm so happy.
this will be shows 6, 7 & 8 this year.  only 32 days until eau claire.
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under those circumstances i would have to buy both.  there's no way i could
favor one over the other.

peace,
tim

please check out my new website - http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/havanamoon
and the gigs page -
http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/havanamoon/timsgigs.html for information on my
friend katie miller's cd release party for "the strongest girl in the
world"....

>here's a question:
>
>if amy and emily each did a solo album and they were released on the same
>day, whose album would you buy first, and why?

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ok i stole this from ap off of aol...i promise i'll go sign up for the nigc
e-mail list now...
wyoming judge bars 'gay panic' defense

by robert w. black
.c the associated press

laramie, wyo. (nov. 1) - a judge today barred defense lawyers from using a
''gay panic'' defense in the murder trial of a man accused of beating gay
college student matthew shepard.

state district judge barton voigt told lawyers for aaron mckinney that the
strategy was, in effect, a temporary insanity or a diminished capacity
defense, both of which are prohibited under wyoming law.

mckinney, 22, is charged with first-degree murder, kidnapping and aggravated
robbery in shepard's death last year. the 21-year-old university of wyoming
political science major suffered at least 18 blows to the head.

prosecutors say mckinney and russell henderson, 22, posed as homosexuals,
lured shepard out of a downtown bar, drove him to a remote fence, tied him to
it and pistol-whipped him into a coma. police said robbery was the main
motive but that shepard may also have been singled out because he was gay.

during opening statements, the defense told jurors that the crime was
triggered by a combination of mckinney's drug and alcohol use, traumatic
youthful homosexual episodes and an unwanted sexual advance by shepard.

they had hope to borrow a page from what is informally called a ''gay panic''
defense, built on a theory that a person with latent gay tendencies will have
an uncontrollable, violent reaction when propositioned by a homosexual.

prosecutor cal rerucha countered that such testimony would give others an
excuse to kill people they don't like, such as minorities.

and the judge said today that he did not believe defense attorneys had
offered any evidence that such a strategy would be relevant.

''even if relevant, the evidence will mislead and confuse the jury,'' he
stated in a written order released before the trial resumed today.

mckinney could receive the death penalty if convicted. henderson received two
life sentences after pleading guilty in april to felony murder and kidnapping.

ap-ny-11-01-99 1138est

lisa

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there was one year when i tried to get a friend of mine to dress up with
me...  we were going to put on a&e-esque clothes, carry our guitars, and
put on name tags that read "ari ray" and "elliot saliers" and be the
indigo guys...

he chickened out at the last minute, though...  i guess, being a str8
male, he felt this costume was too "couple-ish" for him to do with a gay
friend of his...

sure wish he'd gotten over it, though... it wld have been hilarious, esp.
with the crowd we hang out with... they'd have gotten it the moment we
walked in.

graham ames
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supposedly enlightened madison carries this!)
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subject: indigo girls on the world cafe this friday 11/5!
from: worldcaf@pobox.upenn.edu (world cafe)
date: 1999/11/01
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this friday, be sure to listen to the world cafe for an exciting
performance and interview (with a live audience at south philadelphia's
indre studios) with the indigo girls.  to find out if you can hear world
cafe where you live, go to our website at http://www.worldcafe.org and use
the pri program locator or follow our links to find out how to listen to
world cafe on the web.
we hope you enjoy the show!

-jeff, wc staff

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this week on the world cafe:

mon 11.01 - an encore presentation of moxy fruvous' visit to the cafe
tue 11.02 - midwestern singer/songwriter dave moore in the studio.
wed 11.03 - the cafe celebrates the words and music of townes van zandt.
thu 11.04 - buddy and julie miller join david in the studio
fri 11.05 - the indigo girls drop by indre recording studios for a
special performance and interview.

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hey dude!  i've been having technical problems with my indicated
contribution.  so, the sound will suck. but it will be in the mail
tomorrow, i swear!!

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does anyone know if they're gonna sign stuff at tower in la?  didn't
they do that once? i'm just wondering if they had anything like that
planned since they'll be in the area for a couple days.
~renee

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i only just heard about this a few weeks ago, and i'm dying to get a copy of
it for myself.  please, anyone who had information, let me know.  i'm so
intrigued, i can hardly stand it.  (yes, i do get into club music)

graham ames
mcgee@oregontrail.net

"trooper" wrote:

> hey all.. i recieved a 12" vinyl this summer of shed your skin remixes... i
> have the blue/red ep's that were done with tom morello, but these are
> different.  there are probably 6 new versions on each side.. mostly techno
> beat, meant for clubs i guess.  anyways, i had never heard of this.. anyone
> else have it or know why/when exactly it was put out?

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can't i buy them both at the same time?  i would listen to amy's first.
but, love emily's too, and make a tape so i could listen to them like
i'm used to & so i wouldn't feel like i'm leaving one out!


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this was just forwarded to me... thought it might be of interest.

:) amy

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indigo girls
saturday november 6
berkeley community theatre 8 p.m.
row jj

four (4) tickets available.  $40/each

call (650) 318-0338 during the day and (650) 497-2150 in the evening.

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i would have to buy amy's first... i like her better... what can i say
she rocks, but emily's would be right there at the register too...  you
just can/t have one without the other...
peace and love,
     carrie

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hey everybody,
just wanted to let you all know that sonia & the disappear fear band will be
performing in the southeast in mid-november.

11/11 johnson city, tn the down home (423)929-9822
11/12 nashville, tn the bluebird cafe (615)383-5308
11/13 atlanta, ga eddie's attic (404) 377-4976
11/14 asheville, nc be here now (828) 258-2071
11/17 vienna va the barns at wolf trap (703) 938-2404

see you there!
sarah
spinsker@goucher.edu
ps check out the fruit of my labor at http://www.goucher.edu/library/robin
we just launched it on friday. its a cool site to explore if you're into
history and women's history, centered around about 100 letters written by
goucher college's class of 1903 between 1919-1938. this is what i've been
doing with my life for the last 6 months so i'm rather proud of it (not to
mention that it proves that one can graduate with a history major and still
get a job!)

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wish i could've found someone to be emily with me, but as it is, i went as
an 80's prom queen. if i do say so myself, i looked gooooooooooooooooood! ;)
i wore my hair in a side ponytail, a really tacky salmon-colored prom dress,
the bright-blue eye makeup up to my eyebrows and out to my temples, a jean
jacket with beads and jelly bracelets all up and down my arms, and a new
kids on the block pin! (saved, i'm ashamed to say, from my own 80s stash) :)

(sorry to all you real-life 80s prom queens out there--i was going for the
caricature of the decade--i'm sure you all looked much less tacky! :))

shannon

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yes - could you share with the list? i'd like to get this too and need more
info.
thanks!
sue


at 10:51 am 11/1/99 -0700, graham ames wrote:
>i only just heard about this a few weeks ago, and i'm dying to get a copy of
>it for myself.  please, anyone who had information, let me know.  i'm so
>intrigued, i can hardly stand it.  (yes, i do get into club music)
>
>graham ames
>mcgee@oregontrail.net
>
>"trooper" wrote:
>
>> hey all.. i recieved a 12" vinyl this summer of shed your skin remixes... i
>> have the blue/red ep's that were done with tom morello, but these are
>> different.  there are probably 6 new versions on each side.. mostly techno
>> beat, meant for clubs i guess.  anyways, i had never heard of this.. anyone
>> else have it or know why/when exactly it was put out?
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hiyas,

at least two people have posted info about places where we can take the
nigc discussions.  naturally, i got delete happy and i lost both
addresses and list names.

can someone repost the for me?

thanks!

jean


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i just want to say i enjoy nigc when it is somewhat relevant.  i've
learned some interesting things from you guys i never would have known
about.
i do understand that many people are "bogged down" with the high volume
of e-mails this list generates.
imho, nigc is fine when the subject doesn't linger for many many days.
anyway, just my two cents....flame away!
:)

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ok : i'd buy both at the same time : but here's a question.... which one
would you listen to first? i'd have to listen to emily first.....

john.

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indigo girls are the artist of the week on channel 103.1, which means their
music is going to be played a lot this week. also on thursday, there's going
to be a live in-studio performance at 4:00pm. tune in...

this station is in l.a., but the signal only picks up well on the westside,
south bay and in orange county. very difficult to pick up the farther east
you go.

april

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ok i lied..and i swear i am going to sign up for the other nigc list - this
was just too funny....maybe the driver of the truck was the same person who
flipped him off the other day? heehee
gov. bush bruised diving to avoid truck
governor, security agent both injured during candidate's jog

.c the associated press

austin, texas (nov. 1) - texas gov. george w. bush suffered minor bruises to
his leg and hip today when he dove to avoid a truck while he was jogging.

''governor bush was treated at the scene and returned home and is traveling
to new hampshire this afternoon,'' said linda edwards, bush's press secretary.

bush, the republican presidential front-runner, begins a three-day swing
through the initial primary state today.

a texas department of public safety agent, roscoe hughey, was hospitalized
with injuries, ms. edwards said. hughey had been trailing the bush on bicycle.

the accident apparently occurred about 12:30 p.m. cst, ms. edwards said,
although she said details were sketchy.

bush campaign spokesman mindy tucker said there was no reason to suspect that
the driver intended to hit the governor. she said the texas state police was
investigating. ''there are a lot of details i don't have at this point,'' she
said.

ap-ny-11-01-99 1513est

lisa (guilty of posting nigc - oh and i'm on digest and nigc doesn't bother
me one bit :) )

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(neil hasn't had any listmail in a looooooong time. what's up with that??)

hey folks...

well, the inevitable has happened... the deadline for indicated is going to
be extended, just one final time.

you still have a chance at glory and to be immortalised on cd.
well, cdr. unless somehow we can sell this disc properly... you never know.

just record your version of an indigo girls tune or two and get it to me as
soon as possible. let's say by the end of november. hopefully by then i'll
have enough contributions to justify the project.

and i thank those who have already sent me tapes and cds!!

email me for any more details you'll need...

cheers

neil
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gospel'; nico 'chelsea girl'
song o' the week: the beautiful south 'perfect 10'

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(if neil hasn't had any listmail how can he reply to this? the plot
thickens...)

hey folks...

well, if it's the techno versions of shed your skin you're looking for,
there's a couple of choices you have:

1) email me and i can tell you where to get the 12" from for $15 or so.

2) wait a week or so because attack of the killer b-sides volume four is on
its way and will include a couple of these (didn't want to fill the disc
with 30 minutes of remixes, so the other two'll have to wait until volume
five...)

which then begs the question...

who wants to be a branch for the biggest cdr offer to ever hit the list??

even without indicated, i have a total of 7 discs about to be offered and
i'd love people with cd burners to help share them with the list.

it's certainly a large project, and i'm sure not everyone'll want all 7
discs (i'd reccomment just two of them) all the discs will have artwork
included, so it's just a case of copying the discs themselves.

if you've offered before, i've probably lost your email, so please contace
me again :o)

and that's basically it...

peace and love... and lots o' leftover chocolate... mmmm...

neil
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1)  okay, so maybe this is because i live in humboldt county, but whoever it
was that reported someone bowling with amy and emily immediately put in my
head a vision of the girls passing a bong around and taking rips.  (if
you're unfamiliar with weed culture, and going "huh?" just move on.)

2)  anyway.  onto the important stuff.  i have one extra ticket for the nov.
8 eureka, ca show.  general admission.  $30.  e-mail me privately if
interested.

3)  does anyone know who's opening for the eureka, ca show?  and no, it's
not rose polenzani because i already asked her, and she wasn't invited to
play those shows.  the butchies are doing a bunch of the oregon and
washington shows, so maybe this one too?  vonda shepard?  one of the daemon
bands?  dare i hope for danielle or michelle?  any guesses?

-anna

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hey folks,

forwarded from the newsgroup... please direct any replies
to the original poster at rareity@my-deja.com, not to me.

thanks -
sherlyn

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>subject: denver show tickets
>date: mon, 01 nov 1999 02:31:29 gmt
>
>have two tickets for denver on 11/19! i cant make
>it!  any need souls out there?  let me know if
>you're interested...ga3 190 and 191 are the
>seats...they were only 25$ ..so...make an offer
>eh? thanks for y our attention.
>
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>sent via deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>before you buy.

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<< 11/12 nashville, tn the bluebird cafe (615)383-5308 >>

my bluebird cafe newsletter says this is a cd release show. :o)  show starts
at 6:30 p.m. - not sure if there is a cover charge or not.  can't wait for
this show!

peace!
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where can i catch it this friday in st paul/minneapolis?  anyone know
what station?
if not , how can i hear it with my webtv unit?

peace,

barb

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any on eheard of a cd by this name? what is it, a boot or something?

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http://www.its-ps.uni.edu:212/kucafe.html


the info is on the page...


peace-
mike r.

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thank u to who ever sent me the '87 boot from decature. it is interesting

tat

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>ok i lied..and i swear i am going to sign up for the other nigc list - this
>was just too funny....maybe the driver of the truck was the same person who
>flipped him off the other day? heehee
>gov. bush bruised diving to avoid truck

nah, wasn't me . . . i don't want to kill the man . . . i'm just very angry
at what he's done and scared shitless about him becoming president.
although, this doesn't suprise me at all . . . what goes around comes
around, right?!?  :)

~tay

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okay, that's it.  i'm going to show my ignorance.  what is it that you
guys dislike so immensely about bush?  is it the death penalty thing?
someone *please* enlighten me. cuz he hasn't pissed me off and i live
in texas!

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i'll be signing on a little before the ig show at my school, but for now,
i've got way too many emails accumulating in my inbox and my g/f is taking
up lotsa my time, and i'm not doing too hot in my classes and i like run-on
sentences so its time i take a break from the (big) list.  if there's
anything really exciting, please send it to the egroups list cuz i'm not
unsubbing from that.

thanks!

carol ann

ps- anyone know how to help a co-dependant g/f?  she's a bit too sad about
me being gone for 3 hours and i dont think she can handle thanksgiving at
all!  yikes


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dawn manuel wrote:
>
> okay, that's it.  i'm going to show my ignorance.  what is it that you
> guys dislike so immensely about bush?

maybe 'cuz he embraces so called "values" which i and i'm sure many
others find repugnant, narrow and mean spirited.  i hate getting into
political discussions, so i'll stop here.

elaine

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<<any on eheard of a cd by this name? what is it, a boot or something?>>

it's a boot... more details on my igs boot pages:
http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/igs/igsmain.htm

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this week, neil 'as been been mostly listening to:
loudalgleigh music; john coltrane 'a love supreme'; v.a. 'raw pre-war
gospel'; nico 'chelsea girl'
song o' the week: the beautiful south 'perfect 10'

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at 02:49 pm 11/1/1999 -0800, april haitsuka wrote:

>indigo girls are the artist of the week on channel 103.1, which means their
>music is going to be played a lot this week. also on thursday, there's going
>to be a live in-studio performance at 4:00pm. tune in...

thanks for the heads-up, april!

i'm listening to 103.1 right now, and they're playing soon be to nothing!
*grin*  oh, i love this station, i love this station, i love love love this
station . . .

hey, who's gonna be at the wiltern this coming thursday and friday?  i'll
be in loge cc 129 on thurs. and orch y 127 on fri.  tan guinness baseball
cap and one xena-themed shirt or another.  <g>

battle on,
shanie
(taking up the gabwhacker in defense of the bard, in all lifetimes)
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i agree with all of you 30 somethings and up.  i just
turned 39 in august and i'm happier than ever.

i still have to admit though, that although things
are a little more clearer to me than they were say
15 years ago, i think i have a little more growing up to
do.  i lived somewhat of a sheltered life when i was younger
and there are still a lot of things i'm learning. i married later
in life (37) and i have no kids, but hopefully that will change
soon.  i owe a lot to the girls for teaching me alot about
life (not to take it so seriously, for one thing).

have a good day.
cathy

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what do so many people have against george w. bush?  here's a little
thought.  below.

barb


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date: mon, 1 nov 1999 20:34:50 -0600 (cst)
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simple.....he's a  billionnaire  trying to buy is way into the
elections.   the more  money you
spend, the more air time you get on air.  it's that
old  saying "i got my millions the old fashioned way...i inherited it
from my father whole stole it."  pun intended.

second  the death penalty does play  a small factor, but  third  the
bushes have way too much power inthis country and  (no, i didn't vote
them in).

peace,

barb


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--- tami damron <txosbo01@morehead-st.edu> wrote:
> here's a question:
>
> if amy and emily each did a solo album and they were
> released on the same
> day, whose album would you buy first, and why?

i would buy amy's first.  i tend to like the songs she
writes more then emily's (not to say i don't like
emily's) plus amy is cuter and sexier, in my opinion.
of course i would immediately buy emily's after amy's.
alice


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lourdes perez     sunset concert & feast
sunday, november 7, 1999  6 p.m.
jordy's ranch  4503 e. st. elmo rd.
$20 general seating
tickets/information: 442-5986, or el sol y la luna, bookwoman, resistencia
bookstore.  students, elders and low income, call: 442-5986

november 10...njcas music comp panel, baltimore, md
november 12 - 17...performances/participation with hunger strikers in front of
the white house (for indigenous rights and the release of leonard peltier)
washington, dc
november 19...concert*...jfk recreation center, newark, nj
very special concert--->>
november 26* with special guests...casa aboy, santurce, puerto rico

(more tour info and audio at: http://www.anglefire.com/tx/lourdesperez)


"she is getting too close to the mouth of the abyss.  she is teetering on the
edge, trying to balance while she makes up her mind whether or not to jump in or
to find a safer way down.  that's why she makes herself sick--to postpone having
to jump blindfolded into the abyss of her own being and there in the depths
confront her face, the face underneath the mask..." --gloria anzaldua

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interesting question.

i'd buy both together, but admittedly, i'd prob'ly listen to emily's first.

fare thee well, my bright stars.
---------

>here's a question:
>
>if amy and emily each did a solo album and they were released on the same
>day, whose album would you buy first, and why?

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seeing as how i've memorized my cons cd already, and it'll be a while for
a&es next release, i've gone all the way back to their first cd to hear
"fresh" ig music.  i haven't listened to "strange fire" in way over a year,
and it was so refreshing!  i love that cd.

today, i popped "indigo girls" back into the good ol' cd player and all i
can say is wow!!  kid fears!!  man, i forgot how orgasmic the harmony was
between amy, emily and michael.  i was on my way to work with a stupid grin
on my face listening to that song.  it literally took my breath away!!

have a good tuesday!
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>here's a question:
>
>if amy and emily each did a solo album and they were released on the same
>day, whose album would you buy first, and why?

i'd buy both albums, and then probably play them side by side at the same
time to see if some harmonies existed between the two.. what can i say.. amy
and emily together <sigh> two more weeks until the denver shows.

i'm musically an amy person, but i'm personally an emily person... prolly
'cause she said my necklace was cool at the nashville concert. : )

joanne

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i think i have this figured out...it seems very likely to me that one
reason so many reviewers keep saying amy and emily should split up and
do their own things is the low tolerance for diverse music in the
industry. i think having a relatively mainstream album that has such a
wide variety of sounds (or perhaps even an assortment of sounds
throughout several albums) is just too much for an industry person to
handle so they suggest that different sounds shouldn't be together and
that they need to be split apart. can you imagine what these reviewers
would think about a danielle howle album?
-sam (who knows she's been in college too long because she though emily
was singing "sex and power, race are poker chips" instead of "sacks of
flour, rice, or poker chips")

<<< carrie knepp <indigo4me@webtv.net> 11/ 1  7:27a >>>
i agree.  what an outrage...  it's cool for amy and emily to  their own
things, i.e. daemon records and watershed the retauraunt.  but for
either of them to go solo?

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>> : now, could you tell us if they're not going to be on until the 3:00
p.m. hour?
>> : the show runs about 5 hours, and i don't have that much tape to run
while i'm
>> : at work!
>>
>> for listeners of wxpn (world cafe's home station), yes, they will be on
>> in the 3:00 pm hour.  across the country, listeners can hear it in the
>> second hour of the program (or, if your station carries only one hour of
>> the cafe per day, in that hour).  we hope you enjoy it.
>>
>> -jeff, wc staff

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hi y'all,

just a reminder that the deadline for signing up for the holiday card
exchange is only two weeks away (november 15th).  for those of you that don't
know what this is...

everyone who wants to participate sends their info...

name
address
city, state, zip
email

to erinsuepoo@aol.com (please send your address like it should appear on an
envelope...people outside of the us are welcome!!)

by the last week in november everyone will receive a list of between 15 and
20 names to send cards to.  everyone will send 15-20 and everyone will
receive 15-20.  this usually works out well because there are usually 18 or
20 cards in a box of cards...though some people make their own and they are
really neat =)

this is always really fun and i encourage all of you to sign up.  spread some
indigo cheer to other fans across the country and even the world!

take care,
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i'd have to say i agree with john bond on this one.  i would definitely buy
them both, but i would listen to emily's first.  and i think someone else
had this idea -  after you hear them both on their own, put the ones you like
best
from both on a tape or cd and alternate them - that's a great idea.

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living in houston, i hear a lot about this dork...for obvious reasons.  the
main reason i am against him is his position towards the gay population.

he has "claimed" to support gay and lesbian rights.  in recent months/years,
he has his people veto any g&l issues just so they wouldn't end up on his
desk.  this way, he can claim to be an advocate for the g&ls of texas by
saying, "i support you, but the issue was veto'd before it hit my desk."
so, he's a liar.  he says he has g&l friends, but no one ever sees or hears
about these "friends".  he's against g&l marriages.  plus, the christian
coalition is one of his many supporters.

boy, when it comes to g&l rights, there's many reasons to not like bush.

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hey does anybody know how to get off this list. i love it, but it is a bit
too much (time consuming).
thanks

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on tue, 2 nov 1999, jen meklenburg wrote:

> living in houston, i hear a lot about this dork...for obvious reasons.  the
> main reason i am against him is his position towards the gay population.

   to me, bush is the most dangerous kind of politician -- a wolf is much
much less dangerous when recognized for a wolf.  this "compassionate
conservatism" bothers me -- certain fascists aside, i have a certain
amount of respect for anybody that does what they think is right, even if
i don't agree with it.  what i don't like is intentionally setting up fall
guys in your own organization to pass an agenda, meanwhile telling
opponents of that agenda that you completely support them.

   i'll take the misguided economic policies and well-intentioned
arms-for-hostages of reaganism over that any day.  bush is faking left and
running right, and i don't understand why people can't see that.

   where are all the fiscally responsible, socially liberal
candidates?  do they not exist?  why is jesse "the body" ventura the only
person who's saying stuff like, "look - we're not going to spend money we
don't have."?  is an ex-professional wrestler the most qualified person in
public office?

   darius

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why is jesse "the body" ventura the only
>person who's saying stuff like, "look - we're not going to spend money we
>don't have."?  is an ex-professional wrestler the most qualified person in
>public office?
>

quite frankly, yes.  government by, of and for whom????  quite frankly, i'd
vote for jesse ventura over any of the curent possibilities.  politicians
don't know, and don't care to know about what concerns their people have.

~~jennifer
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lifetime of fears."
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>i owe a lot to the girls for teaching me alot about life (not to take
it so seriously, for one thing).
>

exactly!

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which is exactly why i'm writing him in as my choice for prez...

> -----original message-----

> quite frankly, yes.  government by, of and for whom????  quite
> frankly, i'd
> vote for jesse ventura over any of the curent possibilities.

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>    where are all the fiscally responsible, socially
> liberal
> candidates?  do they not exist?

wouldn't those be the libertarians?  lol

seriously, does anyone know where sen. john mccain
stands on such social issues?  he is pretty moderate
and seems like a fair person.  i'm sure he's more
progressive than bush, though i haven't really
researched his position on all the issues.  i like
bill bradley, but i'm concerned he would spend too
much money, and gore is starting to seem a little
phony and too well-rehearsed to me.  plus, he's
attacking bradley, which turns me off.  i honestly
don't know who i am going to support at this point.
this is very nigc, so anyone who has any thoughts or
insights can e-mail me privately.

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i am *really* enjoying this thread!
you can certainly tell that i don't keep up with politics like i
should, but i can say that i am very interested.  i really enjoy all
this feedback and discussion.
i think the founders of this country had in mind a government run by
the "average citizen".  that's why term limits were imposed: to getnew
"fresh" people into office, but it has failed.  people are born into
politics and stay there entirely too long.  people like the bushfamily
and kennedy family have no idea what life is like for the middle or
lower class, and i think this is a tragedy.
we need more people like ventura that stand up and speak the truthand
help people realize that there are limitations on what gov't can do(ie
money).  i think someone from the list should run for president!  who
do we elect???wow.  that's the most .02 i've shared, i think!have a
good one!


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yeah, we'll call it the 'list' party.  wow.  there's a scary thought, can
you see us all at the polls in our little ig t-shirts, handing out flyers?
hmmmm...
ryan blackhawke for president!!!

:)

-tara

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my two cents on jesse ventura.

go greens.


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no, and simply put, jesse isn't exactly the saint
in politics. he says he wants to meet with minnesotans, but i think he
could recap that statement to say "rich  people.  "  his idea that
the average minnesotan family earns from 60,000-120,000   $$$ a year,
and how he's middle class and getting $120,000 a year (the highest paid
governor in minesota yet.) just shows how out of touch he is with issues
that minnesotans face.

he said he wanted to meet with as many minnesotans as possible,  then he
started going
off on trips courting the elite, singing his tune i
call the " i'd like to sell minnesota."  i say,"all right.  when you
sell minnesota what would you like to say....that we don't support our
poor and low income people....that we support workfare/low wage/slave
labor type jobs......that we're a bunch of racists?"  if that's what the
rich people in hollywood like to hear,  i  tell them,  "all right!
there's your man."  (and  i'm  minnesotan.)

peace, but not proud of jesse

barb


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actually, ted kennedy is probably the hardest-working man in congress. not
only that, he consistently sticks up for the average joe (he is the one who
usually brings up raising the minimum wage). he is pro-choice and pro-gay,
altho i don't know his stance on gay marriage. he did fight vociferously to
get doma killed, to no avail. i daresay i'd vote for the man if he ran. such
a shame john jr. died so suddenly altho i'd have to check his stance on
issues near and dear to my heart.

term limits were a new thing brought about because of fdr who was elected to
four terms. pretty hard to protect business interests when you have a
president who is so popular with the people. and there are no term limits
for members of congress and the judicial branch is appointed for life.

ryan
> -----original message-----
> from: indigo girls mailing list [mailto:indigo-girls@netspace.org]on
> behalf of dawn manuel

> that's why term limits were imposed: to getnew
> "fresh" people into office, but it has failed.  people are born into
> politics and stay there entirely too long.  people like the bushfamily
> and kennedy family have no idea what life is like for the middle or
> lower class, and i think this is a tragedy.
> we need more people like ventura that stand up and speak the truthand
> help people realize that there are limitations on what gov't can do(ie
> money).  i think someone from the list should run for president!  who
> do we elect???wow.  that's the most .02 i've shared, i think!have a
> good one!
>
>
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alright.  i am totally po'd about this ride thing now.  in case you haven't
heard i am riding my bicycle from tampa to atlanta to raise money/awareness
for the ride for chiapas.  beccie is great.  ryan is great.  everyone who
has contacted me thus far is great. all of you have have kept this in your
prayers are great.  and our lovely ladies of music (ig) are great.  but the
two people that i thought were going to be the most supportive (my mom and
my girlfriend) are not at all.  by now i am seriously considering 2 things:

1.  riding in unsafe conditions with no support vehicle by myself taking
what clothing i can with me and roughing it totally and leaving on the
designated date
2.  packing my things now, telling my gf to go to hell, hitching a trailer
to my bike and towing my things with me to atlanta and hopefully starting a
new life without any of the crap that i have here.  and maybe, just maybe,
being happier, more content in that i have done the one thing that i have
wanted to do all my life (take a bike trip like this) and hopefully rebuild
the broken relationship my mother and i have now.  i realize she is
concerned for my safety but my answer to that is "then help me!"


there is of course another option:  everything will be ok, the trip will go
on without a hitch.  beccie will be able to come with me, and strangers
along the roadside will offer their assistance, invite me in for dinner,
offer me their barn to sleep in, and the world will be perfect for those 10
days and i will be filled with a new sense of how kind the world can be.

canceling the trip is not an option

so i beg of you now -- please let me know honestly how you feel about this
ride.  send me words of encouragement.  or tell me to give up my tide box
and go home and forget about the ride.  but please tell me something.
silence is not golden here.  it's torture.  but please, reply privately so
as not to annoy those on this list that really don't care.

totally frustrated,
nancy

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i second the motion!

i think the first law should be ig on every radio station.  change the
national anthem to "closer to fine" or something.
okay, that's really bad.  but a fun thought!!

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> what is it that you
> guys dislike so immensely about bush?

- he does not support equal employment rights for
les/bi/gay people, or any other civil rights legislation
for us as far as i can tell. his unwillingness to debate
the other contenders in the republican race make his
positions on virtually anything difficult to assess.

- money talks. he's buying the nomination. he's opposed
to campaign reform for obvious reasons.

- yeah, supporting the death penalty and the gross
injustice of the application of the death penalty with
respect to minorities is a grave problem indeed. it calls
into question his real views on racial discrimination.
although he has not said so as far as i know, i strongly
suspect he is opposed to a variety of affirmative action
and anti-discriminatory practices. those would be major
hot button issues for me.

- he's a coward. he has only recently agreed to debate.
he is withholding his positions so neither his party or
the public can make an informed assessment of those
positions.

the above is totally irrelevant for me, because it will
be an icey day in hell before i vote for any republican.
their party is exclusive, devoted to propping up big
money, and essentially insensitive and unresponsive to
the needs of the poor.

so there it is.
kc. ("flamebait" to y'all :-d)

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--- "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com> wrote:

> ryan blackhawke for president!!!

yeah!  i'll second that motion!  all in favor say
"aye"
:o)

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dawn manuel wrote:
>
> people like the. . .  kennedy family have no idea what life is like for >the middle or lower class, and i think this is a tragedy.


so not true.  don't you go saying nothin bad bout those kennedy's. (only
kidding) the various members of the politically involved kennedy family
have consistently been very vocal and supportive of the "little" man.
true, they are very wealthy and don't have financial headaches, but
please do not impy that they are out of touch with the issues that
effect of the middle class.  plus, look at teddy kennedy's record on gay
rights.  that speaks lots to me.  maybe you don't like them as human
beings, but look at their political record.

elaine - from massachusetts, aka kennedy land

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okay, i'll take the heat for that one.  i merely was using the kennedy
name as an example.  i'll be the first to tell you i don't know much
about them.  i just meant that those who have grown up in the political
world with tons of money are generally out of touch.
but keep correcting me!  i'm learning.

ps...if i mention a or e, does it become igc?  :)

--- elaine bean <bean@neu.edu> wrote:
> so not true.  don't you go saying nothin bad bout those kennedy's.
> (only
> kidding) the various members of the politically involved kennedy
> family
> have consistently been very vocal and supportive of the "little" man.
>

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umm....i say we all write in amy for president :-)
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on tue, 2 nov 1999, kristen curry wrote:

> the above is totally irrelevant for me, because it will
> be an icey day in hell before i vote for any republican.

   so i always thought, too...but the competition sure doesn't look
promising.

> their party is exclusive, devoted to propping up big
> money, and essentially insensitive and unresponsive to
> the needs of the poor.

   as opposed to the democratic party, lovers of all?  they're the same
damn coin.  and of course, if you don't vote for a member of one of the
parties, you marginalize yourself, which helps nobody -- unless, like in
'92, where the swing vote for perot detracted from bush's audience.
   if mccain is as responsible and thoughtful on social issues as he is on
stuff like campaign finance, i'll play his game.  the vietnam thing was
way classy, too.

   darius

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--- sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:
> umm....i say we all write in amy for president :-)
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> sheryl jones

do you think that if a lot of people did that, it would send any kind
of message?  i mean what if we knew that none of the candidates were
what we wanted and had everyone we know (that we could convince) write
in amy.  just to make a statement.
and yes, i realize that would throw away our vote.  but...it would also
take votes from others.  just another fleeting thought i haven't
completely thought through.
go gentle!!


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>do you think that if a lot of people did that, it would send any kind
>of message?  i mean what if we knew that none of the candidates were
>what we wanted and had everyone we know (that we could convince) write
>in amy.  just to make a statement.
>and yes, i realize that would throw away our vote.  but...it would also
>take votes from others.  just another fleeting thought i haven't
>completely thought through.
>go gentle!!

dawn,
  this is exactly what i was thinking.  i don't really want to vote for any
candidate that's running.   i have mixed feelings about it though.  as far
as i'm concerned, just about anyone else who's running is better than bush.
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lol ....agreed!  amy ray for president!! lol
            all in favor say, "i."  oh that would be good.

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subject:      draft amy ray for prez

now there's a non-cynical, heartfelt alternative i could
get behind.

kc
> --- sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:
> > umm....i say we all write in amy for president :-)
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > sheryl jones
>
> do you think that if a lot of people did that, it would send any kind
> of message?  i mean what if we knew that none of the candidates were
> what we wanted and had everyone we know (that we could convince) write
> in amy.  just to make a statement.
> and yes, i realize that would throw away our vote.  but...it would also
> take votes from others.  just another fleeting thought i haven't
> completely thought through.
> go gentle!!

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and one more thing...

amy is already referred to as "el presidente" on the
daemon records site. i'm not making this up :::snerk:::

kc

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dawn manuel wrote:
  change the national anthem to "closer to fine" or something.

holy cow i think we're on to something here. i laughed out loud when i read
this...i just got this mental picture of thousands of people standing with
their hands over their hearts at a baseball game or something staring at the
flag and hearing "i'm trying to tell you something about my life..." then
everybody cheering and clapping at the end with tears in their eyes. wow,
that would be a beautiful moment. <sigh> i'd like to buy the world an indigo
girls cd....

peace,
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--- sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:
> dawn,
>   this is exactly what i was thinking.  i don't really want to vote
> for any candidate that's running.

i don't know alot about politics.  (i keep saying that so you guys
won't get violent on me!)  but from the little i've heard, i'm not hip
on the candidates either.
and i believe that we need to somehow let politicians know that we need
change.  i'm not sure the best way to send this message.  it just seems
like a write in like that may get some attention.
we need to make ourselves seen.  a united front is probably the best
way to deal with these candidates that seem frighteningly alike!
igc- does a write in break any list rules?

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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/po/19991101/co/19991101021.html

just interesting in case anyone is interested.

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old thread:
did anyone else catch "the waxing and waning is always on your mind" as
a pagan reference?  maybe...
just a quick thought in regards to the post a couple of weeks ago about
amy's religion.

ps-you like my new signature?  hehe


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oh - oh.  dissension in the ranks!  i'd vote for emily!  love her philosophy of life!

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has anybody tried to write to amy or emily via the russell carter
management address?  do amy & emily really get to read these letters, and
has anyone received any responses?

thanks!
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last i heard didn't amy say she never wanted to run for pres?  didn't she
say in some interview to vote for emily?  or was that emily who said that
(to vote for amy?)  i can't remember exactly.  i'd vote for both.  one for
pres the other for vice pres.

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> oh - oh.  dissension in the ranks!  i'd vote for emily!  love
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a good cons review in posthoc
http://www.posthoc.com/indigo.htm

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oh hey--
meant no offense!
'twas my understanding amy was the more political of the two...that's
all!
:)


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on tue, 2 nov 1999, nancy lambert wrote:

> last i heard didn't amy say she never wanted to run for pres?  didn't she
> say in some interview to vote for emily?  or was that emily who said that
> (to vote for amy?)  i can't remember exactly.  i'd vote for both.  one for
> pres the other for vice pres.

i gotta go with that one. i'm envisioning a massive bumper sticker
campaign. infiltrate everything with 'em! it'd be great. ah yeah, that
would be cool.

amy m.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ray/saliers '00!
*write 'em in* !
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this is a review of cons from the uk's q magazine, december issue:

indigo girls, come on now social

more sensitive songcraft from durable female folk duo.

amy ray and emily saliers have been scribing wordy, wry, quirky little
vignettes about relationships, love and loss for nigh on a decade now, and
their seventh album finds the duo mining this productive seam once again.
they're on good form.  gone again, peace tonight and we are together are
rich in detail and songwriting suss, and their lenthy list of guests
includes sheryl crow, joan osborne, me'shell ndegeocello, natacha atlas and
luscious jackson's kate shellenbach.  it's a skilful outing, but at this
stage one which is unlikely to attract any new devotees.

- ian gittins.  three stars.

after my shock at actually finding a review of ig's album in the british
music press, i was stunned that it was a favourable review!!  just in case
you're interested, the three star rating is explained as "good.  not for
everyone, but fine within its field."

claudine

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re:  bumper stickers.

i am opposed to bumper stickers.  i say we draft lyndsay to make us
window clings!  (i'm sure she'd appreciate that!)


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in a message dated 11/2/99 9:11:02 am central standard time,
jenmek@hotmail.com writes:

<< boy, when it comes to g&l rights, there's many reasons to not like bush.
  >>
and according to elizabeth birch (did i get her name correct?) of the human
rights campaign, he personnally tried to block her and her partner's adoption
of twin babies born here in texas.

pam

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for those following the trial, this came off the wire about 1/2 hour ago. i
wonder how long it will take the jury to decide.

-det. munch

apologies for nigc
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wyoming man was 'wolf' waiting for lamb -- da says

updated 2:57 pm et november 2, 1999

by tiffany edwards

laramie, wyo. (reuters) - a wyoming man accused of killing a gay college
student was
like a wolf awaiting a lamb, a prosecutor said tuesday. the defense lawyer
countered by
saying his client was a "dopey" man crazed by drugs.

aaron mckinney, 22, accused of the murder, robbery and kidnapping of
matthew shepard,
21, sat with his eyes closed while the prosecution, in closing arguments,
described him as a
cold-blooded killer out to attack someone smaller in size.

the defense has admitted mckinney's role in the oct. 6, 1998, attack on
shepard, a
university of wyoming student. but the defense argued that mckinney was
under the
influence of drugs and liquor and that coupled with a history of child
abuse and a homosexual
experience at the age of 15 propelled him into a blind rage when shepard
allegedly made a
pass at him.

the case went to the jurors after instructions were read to them. mckinney
is charged with
first degree murder, kidnapping and robbery and could face the death
penalty if convicted.

wyoming state court judge barton voight barred the defense from using the
"gay panic"
defense and the prosecution scoffed at the controversial argument.

"what is most striking is not that matthew shepard is homosexual, but that
he is frail and
small and if anyone was born to be a victim in this case it was matthew
shepard," albany
county district attorney cal rerucha said.

police say mckinney and his friend, russell henderson, lured shepard from a
laramie bar,
pistol whipped him and left him to die, tied to a fence on a country.

"matthew shepard begged for his life. matthew shepard tried to negotiate.
matthew shepard
asked for mercy," rerucha said.

"they're watching matthew shepard like two wolves watching a lamb," the
prosecutor said.

an eerie feeling swept the courtroom when rerucha stood silent for 60
seconds to mark
what even only one minute in the attack would have been like for the
victim.

"think what 60 seconds was like for matthew shepard. it's a short time if
you're eating an
ice cream cone. it's a long time if you're descending a road to hell -- not
knowing what would
befall you after you are being terrorized and threatened," rerucha told
jurors with the families
of the victim and the defendant sitting in the courtroom.

mckinney's attorney dion custis told jurors he could tell by the tears in
their eyes that his
work was cut out for him.

"we're not here because aaron mckinney is a cold-blooded murderer. his
nickname is
dopey," custis said in an attempt to portray his client as a hapless
loser.

"aaron mckinney did not have an intent to kill. aaron mckinney is not a
cold-blooded killer,"
custis told the jury.

custis also asked the jurors not to hold against their client the defense's
team strategy of
putting on the stand men who said shepard had made passes at them. custis
made much of
mckinney's drug use.

"remember overkill? that's what happened here. had he not been a chronic
user of
methamphetamines he would have stopped hitting after two to three times,"
custis said. the
prosecution has said that shepard was struck 20 times.


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>and could face the death penalty if convicted.
>
ya'll want to flame somebody?  here goes...

i say give him the death penalty.  i am tired of people getting away
with murder (literally).  we have to protect ourselves from those in
our society who cannot behave.  (it is not okay to kill people.  and
yes, i hear my hypocrisy!)  there are rules that have to be followed
for an orderly society.

*bracing herself*


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>i say give him the death penalty.

i agree completely.  he deserves the harshest penalty possible for what he
did. and since that would be death, i say kill him.

kel

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>amy actually at one point briefly grabbed her crotch! the few that

i observed this repeatedly during a concert in september - wasn't sure if
perhaps she was channeling michael jackson, or just in need of a good dose
of monostat.........


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at 03:53 pm 11/2/99 -0500, kelly wrote:
>>i say give him the death penalty.
>
>i agree completely.  he deserves the harshest penalty possible for what he
>did. and since that would be death, i say kill him.

i'm not sure death would be the harshest penalty.  i mean, after he dies he
won't feel anything (yes, i know that's debatable).  why not make him spend
his life in prison thinking about what he did?  why not force him to do
something to benefit society?
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from: dawn manuel <venussage@yahoo.com>
>i say give him the death penalty.  i am tired of people getting away
>with murder (literally).  we have to protect ourselves from those in
>our society who cannot behave.  (it is not okay to kill people.  and
>yes, i hear my hypocrisy!)  there are rules that have to be followed
>for an orderly society

hear hear!
an eye for an eye, and a life for a life.  mckinney is well past due for a
face-to-face meeting with whatever being he happens to call his god.

~~jennifer
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lifetime of fears."
  -amy ray

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--- nancy lambert <nlambert@inter-science.com> wrote:

> last i heard didn't amy say she never wanted to run
> for pres?  didn't she
> say in some interview to vote for emily?  or was
> that emily who said that
> (to vote for amy?)  i can't remember exactly.

yeah, it was amy who said that - i believe it was in
one of the curve articles from early last year.  she
said something to the effect that she felt she could
make more of a difference in an activist role.  i've
read that emily someday would like to run for city
council...

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you go tara!


on tue, 2 nov 1999, lane, tara e. wrote:

> yeah, we'll call it the 'list' party.  wow.  there's a scary thought, can
> you see us all at the polls in our little ig t-shirts, handing out flyers?
> hmmmm...
> ryan blackhawke for president!!!
>
> :)
>
> -tara
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three in one

in the name of the father
they pray.

in the name of christ
they interpret the bible
in a different way.

and by the power of the holy spirit
they kill and maim
without shame.

on a fence post
hanging
bullet through the head
singled out
for what he couldn't deny.

amen.

in memory of matthew shepard

tat

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for those of you who don't live in los angeles (well . . . in the areas of
l.a. that actually pick up kacd), their live in-studio performance at
studio c will be broadcast in realaudio on the channel 103.1 website.

http://www.channel1031.com

it's about half a minute behind the radio broadcast (i know; i just
checked), but it'll be there.  ;)  just click on "listen live."  heck,
you'll probably get better reception than most people will get off the radio!

again, this'll be on thursday, 4 november, at 4:00 pm pacific time.
(thanks again for the alert, april!)
i'll also be taping it, so . . .

battle on,
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>i think the founders of this country had in mind a government run by
>the "average citizen".

they absolutely didn't.  the federalists, who pretty much controlled the
framing of the constitution, with a few concessions, very much believed that
the average citizen was incapable of knowing what was in his/her best
interest and took a very paternal approach to government.

>people like the bushfamily
>and kennedy family have no idea what life is like for the middle or
>lower class, and i think this is a tragedy.
>we need more people like ventura that stand up and speak the truthand
>help people realize that there are limitations on what gov't can do(ie
>money).

do you know why politicians tend to ignore the lower class?  because they
consistently don't vote!  why try to win the favor of people who aren't
going to help you keep your job anyway?  cater to the people who will return
the favor!  c'mon, people, vote!

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okay i have never really written a review before, but since i haven't seen any
regarding the vegas and phoenix shows, i thought i would give it a try.

first the las vegas show at the house of blues is without a doubt the best
concert (ig or otherwise) i have ever seen and i have been to a lot of
concerts in my life (i won't reveal just how many years that is).  it was a 21
and older crowd in a small club with a capacity of around 2000.  general
admission was standing room only on the dance floor which held maybe a 1000
people, so my gf and i were able to get within just a few feet of both amy and
emily.  people just sorta staked out their "standing & elbowroom" territory
and respected each other's space, so it was really cool.  met a few friendly
ig heads, as though they would be anything else.  rose polenzani opened and
the crowd was very enthusiastic.  the ig followed and played nearly all of the
songs on their new cd which were all very well received.  they mentioned the
bass player won $1400 playing the slots.  amy talked about trying to ride her
bike out to the mountains and riding and riding before finally realizing that
she would never make it to the mountains ... they were just too far away. so
she sat down and watched a high school football game and then rode back to
town.  emily talked about her fear of flying before launching into "airplane".
definitely, the hardest rockin' show i have ever heard them played...couldn't
have asked for anything better.  my gf got both a pick and a setlist which is
as follows:

go
trouble
reunion
get out the map
sister
peace tonight
three hits
soon be to nothing
ozilline
closer to fine
shed your skin
cold beer & remote control
compromise
airplane
faye tucker
power of two
shame on you

encore: or (w/ rose), gone again, galileo

ok, whew! this is getting very long ... the phonix gig:

rose opened again with amy coming out and introducing her.  the ig setlist
differed quite a bit from the vegas show ... playing only a few of the newer
songs and a lot of the older stuff.  i got what i wanted saturday and my gf
got what she wanted on monday, so we were both really happy.  emily was really
in a rockin' mood and did the most incredibly guitar work on chickenman that i
have ever heard from her.  in fact, she was jammin' big time on almost every
song.  they both kept remarking on how great the audience response was and
they kept changing their setlist through out the concert.  kevin secola (i
think that's his name) came out and play an intro to eiiot on his flute giving
it a very errie native american kind of feel.  definitely emily's song of the
night while chickenman was amy's, imho (though johnny rotten was a very close
2nd). amy took some gifts from audience
members before leaving the stage, one of which was a big basket of goodies
(cookies, etc.) from a mother and daughter who were attending their 5th ig
show.  when they returned for the encore, amy mentioned that they normally
only played 3 encore songs, but they were going to play 4 ... the extra one
being "you and me of the 10,000 wars" for the mother and daughter.  most of
the concert goers were very cool, but several kids jumped on to the stage
after the concert and started grabbing picks, towels, water bottles, etc.
before the security could get them off.  sulli wasn't very happy after that
and threw the one remaining guitar pick on emily's mike onto the stage floor.
a security guard later threw it to someone.  sulli later came out and gave
some copies of the setlist to someone to pass out to others and my gf managed
to get one.  after that the security guards made everyone leave the building.
okay, the setlist is as follows, but they did mix up the songs a bit and i may
not have the exact sequence down.

go
trouble
reunion
get out the map
chickenman
peace tonight
sister...i think they replaced this song with kid fears
closer to fine
scooter boys
eiiot
ozilline
cold beer
?...amy stuck johnny rotten in here i believe
power of two
faye tucker
least complicated
shame on you

encore: or/kid fears/galileo ... kid fears was replaced with "you and me
of the 10,000 wars" ... can't remember the 4th encore song, sorry

okay, i guess that it.

later, gram

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subject:      philly bootleg

does anyone have the bootleg from oct. 4 from the tower theater?  if so
please contact me to see about a possible trade.

thanks,
jen :-)

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hey everyone :)

      my gf and i got our dayton tix right when they went on sale, so we're
safe... but we just found out an aquaintance of ours wants to go, and didn't
hear about the show soon enough to get good seats. she needs 3 tickets. she
doesn't have a computer, so she asked me if i'd post this message to the
list, hoping maybe somebody needs to unload extra tix they have.  anybody?

~lisa

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i'm a huge supporter of the death penalty, but i go back and forth on this.
i'd rather he rot in a jail cell.  but then that's being vindictive.  and
what about the money we spend on him while he's there?  ould  we rather let
the guy rot or use that money more productively?

and what would our beloved ig say about the death penalty?  no doubt against
it.

no, he'll get life.  he'll rot.  he'll find jesus while he's in the cell.
he'll con some minister into believing he's actually found jesus, but more
importantly that this actually means something.  he'll explain to the
minister that since he's found jesus that he's sorry, that satan made him do
it, and he should be released (or in the event he gets the death penalty,
that he shouldn't fry...beginning to sound like a song we all know????).

either way, death or life in prison, it's a tough call.  which ever way it
goes, somebody's going to be unhappy except for him and the legions of
radical christians because they've killed another one.

ok, i shouldn't have posted nigc...but i can see this coming from three
thousand miles away.

cheers,
l'sly   <---- reaching for my kevlar vest

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hkf's,

i've got one ticket for the nov 7 bct show that i dont think were using... i
will check the row and seat assignment but its definitely on the floor not
balcony....


first come first serve unless my one friend i just left a message for says she
wants it!

:)

-larissa

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anyone here gotten a chance to check out this musical?  it just opened here
in l.a. at the henry fonda theatre in hollywood, and luckily, i work at the
fonda, so i get to see it.  (great way to spend a night.)  great show . . .
rock musical that really rocks hard, is funny, raunchy, edgy, and powerful.
this is a rock musical that makes every other rock musical look like light
pop in comparison.

anyway, on to the igc bits.  i noticed that in the playbill bio, michael
cerveris, the lead actor, was in husker du, and we all know which
dark-haired atlanta rocker likes husker du! <g>  (somehow, i can't help
entertaining the hope that i'm working tomorrow night, and that amy'll be
there . . . i'm silly, i know.)

ally sheedy's currently playing the role of hedwig off-broadway, which i
think is kinda nuts.  granted, i've never seen her in the show, so i can't
say for sure, but she doesn't strike me as a woman who could credibly pull
off a vocally agressive role that's without a doubt intended for a male
singer.  however, i could *definitely* picture amy in the role!  she's got
the voice and the energy and the passion for it.

nice image . . . *grin*

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>i agree completely.  he deserves the harshest penalty possible for what he
>did. and since that would be death, i say kill him.

ok, i was going to let  this go, but i can't.  first of all, mckinney is not
black, so the odds are against his getting the death penalty, so you can stop
hoping.  (yeah, it may sound racist but it's true, use of the capital
punishment is extremely biased in disfavor of minorities).
    let's see, he killed a man. . i know, let's kill him!  way to preserve
respect for the sanctity of human life!  way to reduce violence in our
culture! (government-sanctioned violence is still violence).
someone mentioned that a person should not "get away with murder".  well,
life without parole is certainly not "getting away with it."  i am gay, and i
was severely disturbed by matt shepard's murder.  but if his killer were to
get the death penalty, i would probably find myself writing letters in
protest.  i'm only a high school student, but i have strong convictions
concerning the death penalty.

em

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> and what about the money we spend on him while he's
> there?  would  we rather let
> the guy rot or use that money more productively?

i'm morally opposed to the death penalty for anyone, for
any reason, but from an exclusively practical point of
view execution is much more expensive than life-long
incarceration.
it's counter-intuitive, but it's the truth. killing for
social retribution costs more.

kc

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--- sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:
why not force him to do something to benefit society?
> ----------------------------------------------------------

a possible solution.  we've got some highways that could use a little
work, some trees to plant, and lots of garbage to be picked up.
i think that sounds great, sheryl.  but i say we give them the nastiest jobs!

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ok, here's the deal:  my girlfriend and i are approaching our one year
anniversary (december 4) and i was wondering if i could get some help with
choosing a gift...she is not an indigo-head, so she won't appreciate any ig
related items, and i'm just stuck. any ideas, anyone?

thanks, cindy

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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the newsgroup.  please direct your replies
to the original poster at valiant@yahoo.com or call the numbers
given...

-sherlyn

---begin forwarded message---
>from: "ranger" <valiant@yahoo.com>
>subject: 8 pit (row bbb) and 2 row a center orch. seats for 11/5 la show
at wiltern
>date: tue, 02 nov 1999 15:07:20 gmt
>
>i have a total of 10 tickets available, 8 in the pitt row bbb seats 102-116
>(even seats all together) and 2 front row orchestra center (row a seats 114,
>116) for sale -- november 5 show.
>
>call 312-925-4602 or 312-470-3206
>
>peter
>

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hey folks,

here is the posthoc review that eve mentioned....

-sherlyn

---begin forwarded article---
the great indigo social

come on now social (epic) is musical evidence: amy ray and emily
saliers complement each other as well as any two people can.
saliers and ray, better known as indigo girls, have been pleasing
audiences around the globe for over a decade. with tight
harmonies and songs of conviction, indigo girls have amassed a
devoted following.

on their newest release come on now social, indigo girls whip
their acoustic-based fluidity to a richer consistency and hone
the tenor of their social activism. with strains of bluegrass,
rock, punk and dub, indigo girls have not made the kind of album
that you might expect from them.

"go" rocks the opening and begs to be experienced live. with the
repeated call "don't take a seat/don't stand aside," indigo girls
invoke listeners' activism with electric guitars and more
outspokenness than on any of their previous albums. "go," and
indeed the whole of come on now social, acts as both an
invitation and a command to join-in ray's words, "raise your
hands/raise your hands high." "go"s bold call to action
reverberates in the silence after the first track when a ballad
comes through like a balm. "soon be to nothing" is a song about
healing whose percussion track is reminiscent of stevie wonder;
the electronic beat jars when it comes in after the first verse,
but the beat seeps into the song and completes the ballad in a
way that an acoustic beat could not. follow that experience with
country tune "gone again," a rocker called "trouble," and
haunting soundscape "sister", and you have only just begun to
learn the complexity of indigo girls' music.

the singles released off the album work both together and apart;
where "go" rocks and calls to action, "peace tonight" bops and
calls for a good time. "trouble" would make a great single but,
unfortunately, some people hear "one day the war will stop &
we'll grow a peaceful crop/and a girl can get a wife & we can
bring you back to life" and run from the blatant lesbian content.
indigo girls' candor on social and political issues is neither
new nor extricable from their music, and come on now social shows
indigo girls' ever-increasing outspokenness on the gay rights
facet of the struggle for human rights. come on now social is
both the most openly gay lyric-ed album and the most accessible
album that indigo girls' have made. as the scope of indigo girls'
activism grows wider and deeper, their music does the same.

the song that brings it all together-social commentary, dual
voiced strength, personal tenderness, full band rock-is "cold
beer and remote control." a narrative about working for "the
impossible american dream," this tune is as catchy as the tale of
the american dream, only "cold beer and remote control" is an
illumination and not an illusion. emily saliers' lyrics bring to
light the despair of the working world cycle; singing "i guess it
comes apart so little by little," saliers and ray shine
understanding into the attempts to get by, allow listeners to
glimpse themselves, elucidate one person's story with music and
universality.

what follows "cold beer and remote control" is unexpected and,
in that way, exactly what's needed: a punk tune. from the girls
who first came to us with two acoustic guitars, two voices
blended, and great folky rock songs come electricity and punk
sagacity attended to with indigo girls care. over electric
guitars and aggressive percussion, ray declares "i'm not asking
for a compromise." showing ray's punk urge and indigo girls'
versatility, "compromise" is weathered-and-wise-indigo girls'
activist vigor with an edge sharpened by experience.

indigo girls have found success on their own terms, a
self-assured talent that attracts fans, including fellow artists,
including sheryl crow, joan osborne, me'shell ndegeocello, kate
schellenbach. the artist who seems to have had the most influence
on come on now social, aside from saliers and ray, is co-producer
and percussionist john reynolds. reynolds helps bring a new
rhythm to indigo girls music while remaining true to the roots of
indigo girls expression. reynolds' percussion arrangements add a
new dimension to the music and stretch it in places it might not
have otherwise explored. though seemingly uncharacteristic of
indigo girls at first listen, the percussion and production
explorations successfully augment indigo girls sound, build it
across genre lines and remain true to the artistic source.

with extensive sound palette and familiar indigo girls quality,
come on now social succeeds in drawing even unlikely fans into
indigo girls' ever-expanding audience. come on now social is an
unexpected and exceptional album.

indigo girls will play at the berkeley community theatre november
6th and 7th.

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date:         tue, 2 nov 1999 17:48:53 -0600
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gram wrote:

<when they returned for the encore, amy mentioned that they normally
<only played 3 encore songs, but they were going to play 4 ... the extra
one
<being "you and me of the 10,000 wars" for the mother and daughter.


does anyone know if emily wrote "you and me of the 10,000 wars"  with her
mom in mind?  i don't remember ever reading that anywhere...but i love
that song and it always makes me think of my mom (and our relationship)
too.  i was hoping emily would sing it in dallas.

thanks gram for posting the concert review--and everyone else who always
takes the time to do that.  reading everyone's reviews is one of my
favorite things about being on the list!

jennifer

ps:  how about this?  emily for prez (she has already expressed an
interest in politics), amy for vice prez (more time to concentrate on
activism), and ryan blackhawke as political advisor to the girls (ryan
just seems to be so damn smart!)?  it could work!

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dallas, texas  october 28, 1999

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        as sister helen prejean once said, someone might have reason to die for his crime, but who are we mere humans to carry out the sentence?
        no to the death penalty.
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last weekend, on vh-1, i was watching commercials between grease 2, and saw
the ad for come on now social.  i have to say that i loved that pic of
emily, where she has her hands behind her head, and smiling while lying on a
rock!  the commercial is almost like the screensaver in which they show a
pic of amy and emily on the left side (from inside of the cd cover), and
then flash different pictures in smaller boxes and circles on the right
side.

~~~
on a more serious note, yesterday, i was checking my work phonemail and i
got a message from a co-worker, mentioning that r., another co-worker, had
just come back from the sentencing of her brother-in-law.  he was convicted
for the murders of r.'s sister (his wife) and niece (her daughter), and
sentenced to life in prison.  r. had written a completely honest letter
about what kind of loss her brother-in-law inflicted on her and her parents
and family, and how she wanted him to pay for his deeds with his life.

this debate can go on forever.  but, it is so sad to personally witness the
agony of someone surviving that kind of loss.

thanks for letting me vent.  ~diane

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thanks for your post, deb.

pbs (frontline) aired an interesting interview with sister prejean a few
years ago. the transcript can be found here:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/angel/interviews/hprejean.html

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>         as sister helen prejean once said, someone might have reason to
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>old thread:
>did anyone else catch "the waxing and waning is always on your mind" >as a
pagan reference?  maybe...
>just a quick thought in regards to the post a couple of weeks ago >about
amy's religion.

pagan? interesting. i thought it was a menstruation reference. moon, 28-day
cycles, not being caught unprepared, etc.

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well, we know old amy is a nature worshipper, so....

who knows?!?


take what you want, leave the rest,

i say....interpretation is in the ear of the beholder.


-larissa


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>>old thread:
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hey there y'all--
i was wondering if there was any more news about ig being at the tower
records on castro, s.f., on nov. 7.  is this still happening?  if so, does
anyone know the time?  thanks in advance :)

peace,
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hey everyone--
my friend julie and i got an interview with ig when they come here for the
eureka show!!!  i've been thinking about all the things i want to ask, (or
more of what i just want to tell them...i'm sure y'all know what i mean;)
but i thought i'd ask y'all if you have any really good ideas on what to
ask.  so please, let me know...it's coming up on nov.8!   omg, yikes!!!!!

barely containing myself,
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hi ~ a question for you all.  i'm heading to la from michigan to see amy and
emily at the wiltern ~ a dear friend knew how much i loved them and bought
tickets (he also knows that they would in all likelihood not come to
conservative west michigan) ~  can't wait!  i want to give him an ig cd for a
gift, and am having a hard time selecting which one.  i love rites of
passage, swamp ophelia, the indigo girls, and of course, the new one.  hell,
i love nomads, indians and saints, too.  the question:  if you could give one
indigo girls cd as a gift, an intro to the girls, a cd that encompasses their
essence (hard choice, if you ask me) if you will, which one would it be?  i'm
leaving thursday at noon, and would love to hear what the rest of you think
about this.   i'm kind of leaning toward rites of passage or cons, but i just
haven't decided yet....

thanks.

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hey y'all!

my girlfriend was in tower records today and picked up this free copy
of some promo cd that i guess is the soundtrack to the new movie with
chris o'donnell, _the bachelor_ and the first song on it is "peace
tonight"!  it folds out and there are pictures of all the album covers
of the bands that contributed (cons being the very first one).  it's
also a cd-rom and has a few videos and automatic web-site links, one of
which is www.indigogirls.com, and another one is www.honorearth.com
(honor the earth).  i have yet to check out the cd-rom, so i don't know
what else is there.  anyway, it's nice to see the girls pop up where i
don't expect them.

have a great week
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at 09:39 pm 11/2/1999 -0500, vicki stein wrote:

>i love nomads, indians and saints, too.  the question:  if you could give one
>indigo girls cd as a gift, an intro to the girls, a cd that encompasses their
>essence (hard choice, if you ask me) if you will, which one would it be?  i'm
>leaving thursday at noon, and would love to hear what the rest of you think
>about this.   i'm kind of leaning toward rites of passage or cons, but i just
>haven't decided yet....

just my two dinars, er, cents, here . . .

rites of passage is my favorite of the "vintage" ig albums.  it's really,
really hard to say, because they've branched out so much in recent years.
if not for sots or cons, i would say that 1200 curfews or rop would be good
choices.  as a matter of fact, it's been my experience that live albums
capture the essence of an artist better than studio albums, and are a good
way to introduce someone to that artist.  but there have been two albums
since then . . .

so . . . well, i'd go for cons, because it captures the stylistic spectrum
most completely.  a few people i know picked cons up as their first ig
album, and summarily got hooked, got more albums, and loved 'em all.

of course, that's just my opinion. your mileage may vary.  ;)

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ok.  don't kill him.  i think that those boys in the state/fed pen will have
a ton of fun with this dork.  torture is by far better in this case.  after
all he did torture the man.  he sure will wish he was dead after they're
through with him.  and yes i know this sounds so cruel.  it is.  but for
anyone who has ever visited/worked in a prison or with prisoners or even
cops will understand that the pen has its own code of behavior.  it is
acceptable by most convicts to murder your wife if you caught her cheating
and then kill the man that was with her.  but to kill anyone else for
anything else -- they like to target you and make your life a living hell.
that to me is more appropriate.  a definite trial by your peers.

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"the question:  if you could
give one
indigo girls cd as a gift, an intro to the girls, a cd
that encompasses
their
essence (hard choice, if you ask me) if you will,
which one would it
be?"

let's see which would i choose...  i'm leaning for so
on this one, because i think it's one of their best
and tends to ecompass more of their stlye than the
ones before it.  but ah!  i love them all.  this is a
terribly hard choice.  and how could you fail to
mention strange fire?  that's another of my favorites
albeit very different from recent stuff.  i personally
got hooked with rop though, so...  i guess either that
or so.
laurel
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my recommendation would be 1200 curfews - which i guess is an obvious but
not really . obvious in that it has what i consider the best of their best
up to that point on it (altho now that i've heard reunion a few times, i'm
surprised its not on there! its becoming one of my faves....)....but its
also live versions of the songs (no duh) and they do sound different than
the studio versions....

which leads me to throw this question out: i think that least complicated is
the most different song sound wise from the live version on 1200 curfews to
the recorded version on so and when i saw the video in the watershed
tape.....anyone agree with me here? its just such a different sounding song
in both places....

diane

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thanks taylor... i know i can't be the only one with a sick sense of humor
who found bush's near-miss funny...
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nancy wrote:
ok.  don't kill him.  i think that those boys in the state/fed pen will
have a ton of fun with this dork.  torture is by far better in this case.
after all he did torture the man.  he sure will wish he was dead after
they're through with him.  and yes i know this sounds so cruel.  it is.
jesus said:
        then peter came to him and asked, "lord, how often should i forgive
someone who sins against me? seven times?"
        "no!" jesus replied, "seventy times seven!
matthew 18: 21-22.

deb

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date:         tue, 2 nov 1999 22:26:18 est
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what about elizabeth dole??

if she was still running would she get anybody's vote??

:p
tina

i like the idea of writing in amy though!!!  i'll be 18 this october and get
to vote in my first election...hmmm.......

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it has long been my belief that all perps of violent crime should get the
exact same punishment they gave to their victims. in this case, getting
pistol-whipped until his brain stem is destroyed and then crucified on a
fence-post in very cold weather. of course, he'd have to have a brain in
order to have a brainstem and i have my doubts about that.

death is too good for the fuck.

ryan (who is in a particularly vengeful mood today anyway and will now
suggest this goes to the nigc list)

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yeehaw! i concur wholeheartedly darius :) for anybody who (like me) is
interested in politics devoid of religion (spam) a great magazine is free
inquiry. it's run by the council for secular humanism, a group devoted to
humanism and to keeping state and church separate. it's a wonderful magazine
and a great organization..their website is www.secularhumanism.org

anyway, i'm really glad i'm not the only one who likes jesse ventura...i
didn't read the playboy interview (but then again i only buy it for the
picutres)...but a man who speaks the truth instead of hiding behind his
daddy's money and and a church is someone i'd much rather vote for...al gore
is way too sketchy on the gay marriage deal (read the advocate interview) and
way too religious for me - but bush is worse. reminds me of the doonsebury
cartoon for the bush/dukakis election: who to vote for? the wimp or the
shrrimp? in this case though i think it's the asshole or the idiot...

oh and kristen curry - darling - flamebait - my proposal stands :)
lisa
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in a message dated 11/2/99 9:52:06 am pacific standard time,
listserv@netspace.org writes:

<<  to me, bush is the most dangerous kind of politician -- a wolf is much
much less dangerous when recognized for a wolf.  this "compassionate
conservatism" bothers me -- certain fascists aside, i have a certain
amount of respect for anybody that does what they think is right, even if
i don't agree with it.  what i don't like is intentionally setting up fall
guys in your own organization to pass an agenda, meanwhile telling
opponents of that agenda that you completely support them.

    i'll take the misguided economic policies and well-intentioned
arms-for-hostages of reaganism over that any day.  bush is faking left and
running right, and i don't understand why people can't see that.

    where are all the fiscally responsible, socially liberal
candidates?  do they not exist?  why is jesse "the body" ventura the only
person who's saying stuff like, "look - we're not going to spend money we
don't have."?  is an ex-professional wrestler the most qualified person in
public office?

    darius >>

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on tue, 2 nov 1999, kristen curry wrote:

> i'm morally opposed to the death penalty for anyone, for
> any reason, but from an exclusively practical point of
> view execution is much more expensive than life-long
> incarceration.
> it's counter-intuitive, but it's the truth. killing for
> social retribution costs more.

   how do ya figure?

   darius

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*chuckle* i could live with that. i'd piss off too many people and probably
get assassinated within my first term as prez considering i'd overhaul the
military to place more emphasis on education, not to mention i would
immediately repeal "don't ask, don't tell" in favor of saying "get over it.
you are serving with queers already." (i swear prolly 20% of my barracks
were family! when i was in the navy 10+ years ago). i'd repeal tax-exempt
status for churches, make big business start paying their fair share in
taxes and raise the minimum wage to at least $10/hour. and everyone would
have health insurance. and the drug war would be halted, hemp would be
legalized, and we would base our drug enforcement on efforts of those
countries overseas who actually show compassion for their addicts and help
them instead of arresting them. i'd get rid of the big business of prisons.
prisons are for people who are a threat to society. and another thing,
violent crimes would receive heavier sentences than white-collar crimes, for
a change. and, of course, queers could get married.

so as you can see, i'd be a big target but i certainly wouldn't have a
problem advising our girls on these things and letting them implement my
master plan  ;-

ryan
(hey, i can dream too)

> -----original message-----
> from: indigo girls mailing list [mailto:indigo-girls@netspace.org]on
> behalf of jennifer k. parker
> sent: tuesday, november 02, 1999 3:49 pm
> to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject: igc-you and me of the 10,000 wars
>
>
> gram wrote:
>
> <when they returned for the encore, amy mentioned that they normally
> <only played 3 encore songs, but they were going to play 4 ... the extra
> one
> <being "you and me of the 10,000 wars" for the mother and daughter.
>
>
> does anyone know if emily wrote "you and me of the 10,000 wars"  with her
> mom in mind?  i don't remember ever reading that anywhere...but i love
> that song and it always makes me think of my mom (and our relationship)
> too.  i was hoping emily would sing it in dallas.
>
> thanks gram for posting the concert review--and everyone else who always
> takes the time to do that.  reading everyone's reviews is one of my
> favorite things about being on the list!
>
> jennifer
>
> ps:  how about this?  emily for prez (she has already expressed an
> interest in politics), amy for vice prez (more time to concentrate on
> activism), and ryan blackhawke as political advisor to the girls (ryan
> just seems to be so damn smart!)?  it could work!
>
> *    *     *     *    *
>
> "emily is the best at everything!" -  amy ray
> "yeah...but amy is the best at rock and roll!!! - emily saliers
> dallas, texas  october 28, 1999
>
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a very good intro cd might be "the best of the indigo girls" - a
compilation of some of their greatest songs.  but it's an import, so it's
more expensive (~$26).

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in a message dated 11/02/1999 10:59:32 pm eastern standard time,
cypressmoon@hotmail.com (kelly stewart) writes:

> i was wondering if there was any more news about ig being at the tower
>  records on castro, s.f., on nov. 7.  is this still happening?  if so, does
>  anyone know the time?  thanks in advance :)

yes, they are going to be there at *noon* on sunday, november 7th.
everyone show up and support them!    i've heard that they may be be giving
away free promo t-shirts to the first 75 people.   i'm not quite sure what
the actual "number" is, so you might want to call the store and ask them for
more details.

=)
lisa

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in a message dated 11/2/1999 9:29:54 pm central standard time,
hawke2@email.msn.com writes:

<< it has long been my belief that all perps of violent crime should get the
exact same punishment they gave to their victims. in this case, getting
pistol-whipped until his brain stem is destroyed and then crucified on a
fence-post in very cold weather. of course, he'd have to have a brain in
order to have a brainstem and i have my doubts about that. >>

amen, sister.  i know ig are supposed to play a show at laramie.  i'd be
really interested in knowing their feelings as to whether this guy should get
the death penalty, considering this was a brutal gay bashing.

peace!
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it's so nice to see a well thought out review from an obvious fan,
someone who understands... is the author a listmember? - a lot of the
sentiments are similar to those that have been expressed on the list...
in any case, this was a great review! =)

shannon

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on      tue, 2 nov 1999 19:27:34 -0800, ryan blackhawke wrote:

> in this case, getting
> pistol-whipped until his brain stem is destroyed and then crucified on a
> fence-post in very cold weather.

matthew was not crucified.  his mother has spoken out very publicly about
this.  it's not any more fair for the gay media to take something so tragic
and to warp it into something that will work to their advantage than it is
for homophobes to manipulate the truth and write articles that work to their
advantage.  just thought i'd point that out.

love,
julie (who thinks this whole death penalty thing and all related discussion
is weird.  not right or wrong.  just weird.)

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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list but is more appropriate
for here instead... please direct your replies to krista at
kristafox@mindspring.com, not to me...

-sherlyn

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>subject: phoenix show 11/1
>date: tue, 2 nov 1999 20:43:29 -0700
>
>i don't think i have posted in a very long time (a year i think), i usually
>just lurk and listen and learn... but since no one has posted a review of
>the phoenix show, i thought i would... so this is a long post, but i'm
>making up for my year of not saying anything!
>
>let me first say that i had the greatest time of my life!
>my saga starts out of course when tickets when on sale, we had complete
>trauma. we were on the phone with friends of ours who were at another ticket
>outlet and they ended up standing in line for about 3 hours (like us) we
>were first in line and were ready to get front row. well, they got front row
>and we ended up with 8th row all the way on the right. the little ticket
>agent woman didn't know what she was doing, so it was 10 minutes after they
>went on sale before we even got our seats!! neither one of us were pleased
>but dealt with it.
>the show!
>we got there early, of course, the anticipation was killing us!
>we took our seats and waited for our friends to get there, they finally got
>there and we hung out a bit and chatted. of course they were front row and
>right in front of emily. (we were jealous!)
>rose polanzani opened for the girls. she was good, we missed most of it
>because we were catching up with our friends outside by the bar. we met
>melissa from the list, who by the way booted the show.... hope to hear how
>it came out! way to go melissa!
>we finally all took our seats and were waiting for them to take the stage.
>our friends came over and told us that the two seats next to them were still
>available and to come and sit by them at least until the people showed up...
>so why not.... i was game.. front row!!! (where we should have been!)
>at 8:45 they took the stage and the crowd went nuts! fashion review:
>amy was in blue jeans with a black (faded) t-shirt, looked like a panther
>was on the front of it with big boots. hair was great she looked just like
>she does on the new cd.    :-)
>emily was in black pants and a white shirt with a dark (plaid like)blazer.
>(don't know about shoes and could have cared less! there were more important
>things to look at).
>
>set list
>go
>trouble
>reunion
>get out the map
>chickenman
>peace tonight
>closer to fine
>scooter boys
>everything in it's own time
>ozilline
>cold beer and the blair witch project (as per the set list)
>power of two
>faye tucker
>least complicated
>johnny rotton  (i think- can't remember when they played it, wasn't on the
>set list)
>shame on you
>
>(when they were leaving a couple of people came up to the stage and handed
>amy a fruit basket like thing and it had a big card in it, not sure what it
>said but asked them to play something "you and me and of the 10,000 wars"
>for them it was a song between a daughter and mother and meant the world to
>them)
>encore
>(amy explained the card and then said they don't normally do requests like
>this but thought they would)
>you and me of the 10,000 wars
>or (with rose)
>kid fears (crowd sang great on this one, it was awesome!)
>galileo (amy said we rarely ever have four songs for an encore!)
>they said they loved us and we were great!
>
>the set list isn't exact, they mixed them up a bit and added a song here and
>there, i can't remember for the life of me at this minute what they added,
>but i'm sure i will remember the moment i click send.
>the greatest thing was the people never came for their seats! we were front
>row the entire concert, made lots of eye contact with amy and emily, they
>were laughing at (with) us, because we were so crazy dancing and singing our
>hearts out.
>i was bummed that they didn't sing "soon to be nothing" or "ghost" or
>"virginia..." (i wanted one of the great balads to be done, but she did sing
>everything in it's own time and you and me of the 10,000 wars. so i
>shouldn't complain.
>after the concert we stuck around and tried to get picks, no luck, but we
>did get set lists, which made us very happy. then we went out and waited for
>them by their bus. there were quite a few of us and we all started singing
>songs (indigo of course) it was great! amy finally came out but didn't come
>and see the crowd, she waved ducked away (bummer), emily came out about 10
>minutes later and we started singing again (closer to fine i think ) she did
>come out to us and signed autographs, she looked tired but sweet. i talked
>to her for a bit and said we were going to try to make the la show, she
>said, "cool, vonda shepard is opening for us at the first show" she was so
>nice!
>i did sneek a camera in and the pictures came out great, not wonderful but
>hell, they are pretty awesome to me!! (taken from front row i must say)
>emily was practically posing in one of them.. was funny she just kept
>smiling!
>anyway... that's the show in phoenix it was a great!!! they were even on the
>news monday night, said they rocked the place.... well they did!!!
>

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armydillo@mindspring.com writes:

<< i think that those boys in the state/fed pen will have
a ton of fun with this dork >>

yeah, once they find out he beat up and killed a queer, they'll really target
him.   he'll be someone's "bitch" before long.  actually, that might be more
appropriate punishment for him than death.

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oh yeah, and emily wore her green suede shoes

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now i am on a soap box   i disagree in the thinking of this list and maybe i
feel
                             i     i
                         i      i      i
ashamed also.  the killer does not deserve the death penality.  death won't
do anything for hate.  it doesn't really kill it.  i have never thought that
it was beneficial.  i would rather see the guy in a mental hospital where he
has to confront his homophobia on a daily basis by discussing with a trained
professional.  that would do something.  death won't and hate will still
exist the vibes will if anything.
tat

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>>yeah, once they find out he beat up and killed a queer, they'll
really
target
him.   he'll be someone's "bitch" before long.<<

ok, i understand your anger, i am also gay.  however, i am requesting
that we discontinue this nigc thread, i think this is taking it a bit
too far.

thanks,

jean

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>
> << i think that those boys in the state/fed pen will have
>  a ton of fun with this dork >>
>
> yeah, once they find out he beat up and killed a queer, they'll
> really target
> him.   he'll be someone's "bitch" before long.  actually, that might
> be more
> appropriate punishment for him than death.
>
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ok now i know who my vote goes to :) lisa

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<< date:    tue, 2 nov 1999 19:49:28 -0800
from:    ryan blackhawke <hawke2@email.msn.com>
subject: re: igc-you and me of the 10,000 wars

*chuckle* i could live with that. i'd piss off too many people and probably
get assassinated within my first term as prez considering i'd overhaul the
military to place more emphasis on education, not to mention i would
immediately repeal "don't ask, don't tell" in favor of saying "get over it.
you are serving with queers already." (i swear prolly 20% of my barracks
were family! when i was in the navy 10+ years ago). i'd repeal tax-exempt
status for churches, make big business start paying their fair share in
taxes and raise the minimum wage to at least $10/hour. and everyone would
have health insurance. and the drug war would be halted, hemp would be
legalized, and we would base our drug enforcement on efforts of those
countries overseas who actually show compassion for their addicts and help
them instead of arresting them. i'd get rid of the big business of prisons.
prisons are for people who are a threat to society. and another thing,
violent crimes would receive heavier sentences than white-collar crimes, for
a change. and, of course, queers could get married.

so as you can see, i'd be a big target but i certainly wouldn't have a
problem advising our girls on these things and letting them implement my
master plan  ;-

ryan
(hey, i can dream too)
  >>

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hiya.   my friend jenna has a band in denver called sarina simoom (after her
guardian angel).  i know most of you wont be in denver anytime soon, but read
on if you will (or go ahead and indulge me anyway).  i have mentioned sarina
simoom before and as a result turned one lister into a big fan.

the band has improved tons in the last year or so (and they were great
before, but now they are phenomenal, really tight).  they gained a member and
are now jenna on acoustic and electic guitar, violin, and vocals, todd on
drums, tim on bass and back-up vocals, and brian on various guitars.
jenna's ethereal voice and style has often been compared to kate bush.  but
really its quite unique, full of emotion.  she does all the writing.  its
really not folk, although if you heard her alone with her acoustic guitar you
could be fooled.  its sort of alt-rock with some jazz and latin influences
here and there.  and great drums. and beautiful violin.  anyway, i suck at
describing these things, so just trust me and go if you are anywhere nearby.
these are great venues!

as a reference, sarina simoom played a show with erin mckeown this past
august and she loved them.  wants them to come east and play with her.  a
show that is.

if you can't afford $5, go to www.femmusic.com and you can probably get free
tickets.  or go there anyway cuz its a cool website about female musicians of
all sorts.

so here's the info.  let me know what you think if you go!

jess b

thursday, november 4th, 8pm
the bluebird, 3317 e. colfax ave, denver
303-322-2308
opening for the kalamath brothers, a tom waits-ish like band-very cool.
$5

friday, november 12th, 8pm
gothic theater, opening for the czars (cross btwn radiohead and dead can
dance-awesome)
3263 south broadway, englewood, co 80110
http://www.gothictheater.com
303-380-2333
$5

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jean moses wrote:
>
> ok, i understand your anger, i am also gay.  however, i am requesting
> that we discontinue this nigc thread, i think this is taking it a bit
> too far.
>

it has been discontinued - quite a while ago it was moved to the other
list, the one for nigc.  if you don't care for the topic, then i suggest
you unsub from that list for a while if you are subbed - because it is
being discussed there.

elaine

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about this "waxing and waning" thing...the thing that always came to my mind
was the moon also, but i took it in reference to the cycle of the moon
serving as a reminder that she (ozilline) is continually getting older with
each passing day and each passing moon cycle. hence, it's "always on her
mind."

i don't know--just my buck-fifty. it's late and i'm tired, but i just had a
very nice date. :)

shannon

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>>old thread:
>>did anyone else catch "the waxing and waning is always on your mind" >>as
a
pagan reference?  maybe...
>>just a quick thought in regards to the post a couple of weeks ago >>about
>amy's religion.

>pagan? interesting. i thought it was a menstruation reference. moon,
> >28-day
>cycles, not being caught unprepared, etc.

>det. munch

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hi--my bud margaret and i blew it and screwed up the on sale dates for this
show.  as a result we have no tix to the riverside.  did anyone buy extras
or feel like selling 2 tickets to this show.  please mail me if anyone has
2 tix.  thanks a lot.  later

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dates from www.musi-cal.com:


tue, nov 2, 1999 @ 8pm
rose polenzani / the indigo girls at pamona college
claremont, ca
program: rose opens the show.


fri, nov 5, 1999 @ 8pm; $37.50
rose polenzani / the indigo girls at wiltern theater, 3790 wilshire blvd,
(213)388.1400
los angelos, ca
program: rose opens the show.


sat, nov 6, 1999 @ 8:00pm (acoustic, folk, original, pop, rock)
rose polenzani / indigo girls at berkeley community theater
berkeley, ca
program: rose opens show. 1930 allston way. (510) 644-8603


mon, nov 8, 1999 @ 7:00pm (rock, pop, folk, original, acoustic)
rose polenzani / indigo girls at eureka municipal auditorium
eureka, ca
program: rose opens show.


wed, nov 10, 1999 @ 8:00pm
rose polenzani / maire brennan at great american music hall
san francisco, ca
program: rose opens show. tickets $16.00. 415.885.0750, 859 o'farrell st.,
san francisco, ca


sat, nov 20, 1999 @ 7 pm (acoustic, contemporary, folk, progressive)
great women's voices at somerville theater
featuring: jess klein / rose polenzani / lori mckenna / kris delmhorst /
faith soloway / erin mckeown / beth amsel
somerville, ma
info: holland st, davis square, (617)628-3390, tix $16.50 & $15.50
(seniors, students $2 off),charge at (617)931-2000
program: the scene's hottest rising stars


sat, dec 11, 1999 @ 7:30pm (rock, pop, folk, original, acoustic)
rose polenzani / indigo girls at veterans memorial hall
columbus, oh


mon, dec 13, 1999 @ 7:30pm (rock, pop, folk, original, acoustic)
rose polenzani / indigo girls at memorial hall
dayton, oh
program: rose opens show.

lisa

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hey y'all,
after walking to bridges (gotta love an ig show within
walking distance) & saying hi to the plethora of
people i knew there, i settled in for a great show.
during go hardly anyone moved, & i was kinda worried
that we would be the lamest audience ever. when they
started in on trouble though, pple got up & started
dancing. i danced up to the front, so at least for 2
songs me & my 4'10" body could see. then the "mean
bouncer guys" made us go back to our seats. emily was
sympathetic, but she made the concession that he was
"probably a very nice bouncer guy."
the girls seemed in very high spirits, & appreciated
our listening/sitting down to the quiet songs &
rocking out during the louder ones. except for a
coupla screams for galileo, i was very proud of the
audience. yay, claremont.
highpoints for me were love will come to you, trouble,
ozilline, land of canaan, virginia woolf, shed your
skin, shame on you, and when that little boy gave them
roses from the edge of the stage & emily said "thats
what we need- young male fans!"
i was wondering if johnny rotten was the song that amy
starts to sing before compromise on the cd, & i was
right. what a cute li'l solo number. rrrowr.
the harmony on or when rose came out for the encore
was breathtaking. oh, & rose put on a very good set to
open, taking a broken string during olga's birthday in
stride, singing a lovely acappella piece instead.
i got to meet her finally afterwards, & we chatted
about mariana (she's gonna put the lyrics up on her
page when she has time- she hasn't touched it in
nearly a month) & she was really friendly.
i gave my poetry book to sulli to give to the girls- i
hope they read it. i figure, it's something to do on
the bus besides crosswords. :)
i'll leave things like setlists & fashion for those
who keep track of such things. all i can remember is
that the song choice was goood, and the girls looked
gooooooooooood.
peace,
arjuna


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i know there's a few dixie chicks fans on this list.  i just bought "fly",
and love it.  i was wondering if any of you could tell me what the 4h club
and ffa are that wanda and marianne (those fearless earl killers
extraordinaire!) were active in in high school.

also, anyone got any boots of chicks concerts?

any help would be much appreciated.
fare thee well my bright stars!

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i was wondering if someone could tell me what the song is on that mtv
commercial called "vertebrae" with the outcast boy with the headphones
walking down the hallway at school and everyone's shunning him?

that is such a cool commercial!

thanks a ton,
roger

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i have seen that album sold in toronto (sam the record man) for about $18
canadian, and i've picked up copies for list members before. the next time i
visit my parents (hopefully thanksgiving) i might throw the offer out there
again. otherwise, if you don't have it and you want it, you might want to
look into making friends with a canadian.  :)
sarah

date:    tue, 2 nov 1999 19:53:05 -0800
from:    vickie tsui <vtsui@scripps.edu>
subject: ig cd as a gift...

a very good intro cd might be "the best of the indigo girls" - a
compilation of some of their greatest songs.  but it's an import, so it's
more expensive (~$26).

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in a message dated 99-11-02 23:40:54 est, joanm12345@aol.com writes:

<<
<< i think that those boys in the state/fed pen will have
  a ton of fun with this dork >>

yeah, once they find out he beat up and killed a queer, they'll really target
him.   he'll be someone's "bitch" before long.  actually, that might be more
appropriate punishment for him than death.
  >>


sadly just the opposite might happen....he might be revered for killing a
"fag".    :/    i dont think he deserves life in prison.

indi

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in a message dated 11/2/99 4:07:13 pm central standard time,
longwell_ls@hotmail.com writes:

<< and
what about the money we spend on him while he's there?  ould  we rather let
the guy rot or use that money more productively? >>

i don't have exact figures, but it's my understanding that by the time all
appeals are exhausted and a person is actually executed, more money will have
been spent by the state than in keeping same person in prison for life.

pam

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just a thought on this thread


well the minister wants you to live now
and the governor wants you to fry
and whatever it was that you thought might occur
they've got somehing else on their minds

if you live they gonna make you a campaigner
if you die they gonna make you a grave
either way it goes down
well your life's not your own
and that's why killin' don't pay

national coaltion to abolish the death penalty
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hey i need to get off this list. can any one tell me how?

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can someone tell me how to subscribe to this list?  i accidentally
deleted the instructions.

thanks.

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hi folks!
just a quick "de-lurk" to pass on some news to the bay
area listees. radio alice (97.3) is advertising a
private concert with the indigo girls for this
saturday in sausalito. i think they said they'd take
10 people. the way to get in is through an auction
which they'll be running tomorrow from 8-5 (thursday).
bids start at $50. all the proceeds go to a breast
cancer organization.

me, i'm a teacher with a ton of debt, so i know i
won't be there, but i would like to know at least that
some of y'all had a chance to be there. in an ideal
situation, maybe they'd allow a recording/boot, but
somehow i doubt it.

best of luck to anyone who tries for it!

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i just overheard two co-workers discussing tv sitcoms
and commenting on how much they hate "will and grace"
(one of my faves, btw).  one said "i can't stand that
show "will and grace."  "i mean all the talk about is
that guy being gay.  and what's with that girl?  i
just don't get it.  i just don't like that show."
another co-worker remarked that she didn't "watch that
crap."

i believe these two people have an inkling that i am
so inclined, and i never hear them making intolerant
comments about such things, but i have to wonder.  of
course, these were some of the same co-workers who
were shocked about the ellen coming-out episode, so i
guess i shouldnt' be surprised. i know everyone has
their opinions and maybe theirs was more about the tv
show and it's emphasis on all things gay, but still it
bothers me.

just needed to vent.

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that is exactly what i thought!  of course, the moon cycle isn't only pagan.  it seems each new moon would bring her closer to, um, reincarnation???

shannon mast <shannonmast@hotmail.com> wrote:
about this "waxing and waning" thing...the thing that always came to my mind was the moon also, but i took it in reference to the cycle of the moon serving as a reminder that she (ozilline) is continually getting older with each passing day and each passing moon cycle. hence, it's "always on her mind."

i don't know--just my buck-fifty. it's late and i'm tired, but i just had a
very nice date. :)

shannon

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>>old thread:
>>did anyone else catch "the waxing and waning is always on your mind" >>as
a
pagan reference? maybe...
>>just a quick thought in regards to the post a couple of weeks ago >>about
>amy's religion.

>pagan? interesting. i thought it was a menstruation reference. moon,
> >28-day
>cycles, not being caught unprepared, etc.

>det. munch

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write her in!!!  :)

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<p>that is exactly what i thought!  of course, the moon cycle isn't only pagan.  it seems each new moon would bring her closer to, um, reincarnation???</p>
<p><b><i>shannon mast <shannonmast@hotmail.com></b></i> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: #1010ff solid 2px; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px">about this "waxing and waning" thing...the thing that always came to my mind was the moon also, but i took it in reference to the cycle of the moon serving as a reminder that she (ozilline) is continually getting older with each passing day and each passing moon cycle. hence, it's "always on her mind."<br><br>i don't know--just my buck-fifty. it's late and i'm tired, but i just had a<br>very nice date. :)<br><br>shannon<br><br>----original message follows----<br>from: detective munch<box.lunch@excite.com> <br>>>old thread:<br>>>did anyone else catch "the waxing and waning is always on your mind" >>as<br>a<br>pagan reference? maybe...<br>>>just a quick thought in regards to the post a couple of weeks ago >>about<br>>amy's religion.<br><br>>pagan? interesting. i thought it was a menstruation reference. moon,<br>> >28-day<br>>cycles, not being caught unprepared, etc.<br><br>>det. munch<br><br>______________________________________________________<br>get your private, free email at http://www.hotmail.com<br><br>--<br>please do not send excessive amounts of quoted text and/or nigc,<br>long signatures, attachments or flames to the list.<br>indigo girls faq and indigo girls mailing list faq:<br>http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/ig<br></blockquote><br><br>dawn<br><br>*amy ray for president*<br>write her in!!!  :)
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joan, here is your opportutinity to stand up for what you believe in and
fight the fight.

take these people to your manager or to hr.  report them.  what they're
doing is making your work life uncomfortable and that's not tolerated.  they
need to be made aware that they need to respect their fellow co-workers.
and a visit to hr will do it, i'm sure.

peace and pride,
- jen mek

>from:    joan morrison <morrison_joan@yahoo.com>
>subject: (nigc) intolerant comments
>
>i believe these two people have an inkling that i am
>so inclined,
>
>i know everyone has their opinions and maybe theirs was more about > the tv
>show and it's emphasis on all things gay, but still it
>bothers me.
>peace!
>joan :-d

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jen,

>>they need to be made aware that they need to respect their fellow
co-workers. and a visit to hr will do it, i'm sure.<<

well, this assumes that joan is out at work, which it doesn't sound
like she is (love how i am talking about you as "she" joan?  <g>).
also, if she is out, i think it would be better for morale and also her
relationship with her co-workers if she said something personally to
them before reporting them to hr.  it's possible that they just don't
understand that they are making her uncomfortable.

i always believe it's better to try to handle something in a friendly
manner first, before you "report" people.

jean

--- jen meklenburg <jenmek@hotmail.com> wrote:
> joan, here is your opportutinity to stand up for what you believe in
> and
> fight the fight.
>
> take these people to your manager or to hr.  report them.  what
> they're
> doing is making your work life uncomfortable and that's not
> tolerated.  they
> need to be made aware that they need to respect their fellow
> co-workers.
> and a visit to hr will do it, i'm sure.
>
> peace and pride,
> - jen mek
>
> >from:    joan morrison <morrison_joan@yahoo.com>
> >subject: (nigc) intolerant comments
> >
> >i believe these two people have an inkling that i am
> >so inclined,
> >
> >i know everyone has their opinions and maybe theirs was more about >
> the tv
> >show and it's emphasis on all things gay, but still it
> >bothers me.
> >peace!
> >joan :-d
>
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> take these people to your manager or to hr.  report
> them.

which is a great idea, except that i am not out at
work (except to a few people...and only one in my
department), my associate general counsel is
homophobic, and our company does not include sexual
orientation in its anti-harassment/anti-discrimination
policy (so no real recourse).  that would cause me
more harm than good, at this point.

thanks for everyone's words of support, btw!

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here's the text of the message i posted previously, for those of you with
delete-happy fingers:

hkf's,

>from time to time various ig-related topics pop up on this list which
generate a large number of posts which aren't directly related to the girls
and their music, and which can become somewhat of an annoyance to those on
the list who have no interest in the topic, especially those on digest.
after one such incidence last year, tigger set up a list on www.egroups.com
as a home for those of us who tend to get a bit passionate about ig-related
social issues and other such tangents.  post from the egroups list are
readily identified by the subject line:  subject: [indigogirls] etheridge
list info?

to sign up, just go to www.egroups.com and follow the signup procedure; then
search for indigogirls.  quite a number of us who are regular contributors
to the 'big list' are also subbed to egroups.

rock on!
tim

for information on katie miller's cd release party on nov 11 see the "tim's
upcoming gigs" page on my new website -
http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/havanamoon

katie is one of my dearest friends and one of my all-time favorite
songwriters.  please support her if you can.

peace,
tim

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>can someone tell me how to subscribe to this list?  i accidentally
>deleted the instructions.
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ffa stands for future farmers of america.  it's the equivalent of the
coolest club at most rural high schools.  4h, although i was the odd girl
on the block for never being a member, is kind of like girl scouts, but
more rural oriented than wilderness.  at last growing up in the boonies
has come in handy:)
carrie

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two"
"and when the clergy take a vote all the gays will pay again"

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i am so bummed at the election results in virginia i feel like i should publically apologize!

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can people not see the footer which contains the
address for the faq? does it cut off?

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the monday night show at phoenix' union hall was truly wonderful.  i was
fortunate enough to have 3rd row center tickets, sitting just in front of
emily.  four of the 6 members of our polyamorous household attended, and i was
the only one who had really been to an ig concert before -- a couple of the
other guys had seen 'em at lilith fair 2 summers ago, but that doesn't really
count.

fashion report:  amy was wearing what looked to be a quite faded t-shirt for
"the black cat" in austin texas, and jeans.  emily was wearing black pants, a
white shirt, and a kind of off-green plaid flannel overshirt.

the setlist they actually played, rather than the one that was snagged off the
floor by adults-acting-like-children after the show, was as follows:

go
trouble
reunion
map
chickenman
peace tonight
gone again
closer to fine
scooter boys
everything in its own time
    (with a lead-in on native american flute by keith secola)
ozilline
    (they took a break here to explain that they'd just come from a couple of
      really difficult gigs, and that they were thrilled to see the phx crowd
being
      so warm and friendly.  they also told the tale of their bass player having

      won not only $1400 at the slots in vegas, but she also won some kind of
      bus lottery they do on long roadtrips involving numbers under lugnuts on
the
      wheels.)
cold beer and remote control
johnny rotten
power of two
kid fears
least complicated
shame on you

encore:
or w/ rose polenzani
faye tucker
you and me of the 10,000 wars
galilleo

the crowd was pretty electric, and amy and emily commented a couple of times on
how they were changing the setlist from the "okay, they don't like us so much"
list to the "wow, they really love us here" setlist.  you could see several
times on both their faces a bit of surprise and delight at the crowd's
reactions, although we didn't carry the michael stipe part of kid fears anywhere
near as good as the crowd did at bumbershoot in seattle in september...

in all, it was a fine and wonderful show.  the girls wanted to import all of us
to los angeles, where they seemed to be looking toward a couple of rough dates.
(prove 'em wrong, everyone!)

graham ames
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>     (they took a break here to explain that they'd just come from a
>couple of really difficult gigs, and that they were thrilled to see >the
phx crowd being so warm and friendly.

does anyone know which gigs they were referring to? if so, would someone who
was there care to comment?

> the crowd was pretty electric, and amy and emily commented a couple >of
times on how they were changing the setlist from the "okay, they >don't like
us so much" list to the "wow, they really love us here" >setlist.

i wonder which songs go with which setlist. hmm. this might be kind of fun
to figure out.

det. munch


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ok. first of all, not that it matters very much, but aren't ig against the death penalty?
    when you are morally opposed to capital punishment, it does not matter what the crime was.  are we saying that, because it was a hate crime, shephard's killers shoud be killed?  when you say that his killers should be tied to a fence and beaten, you are reasoning with the same violent rage that led them to kill him.  how is this any different than any other sort of murder?  how can you be opposed to extra-judicial murder, but be in favor of government-sanctioned murder? think about it.  also, finally, it does cost a hell of a lot more to execute a person than to keep them incarcerated for life.  people always try to argue with me on this one, displaying their ignorance on the subject.  do some research, find out what you're talking about.

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my view:

i've spent a lifetime listening to the voices of fear and ignorance in all
their varied forms.  the people i've worked with on my day job for the past
several years are generally pleasant folks, despite being both racist and
homophobic.  both are learned traits.  i'm not conceited enough to think
that i can radically alter anyone's ingrown prejudices, but i think i have
succeeded a bit in modifying some of the more blatant aspects through low
key assertive comments while avoiding confrontation and maintaining personal
privacy.

peace,
tim

for information on katie miller's cd release party for "the strongest girl
in the world" please visit the "tim's upcoming gigs" page on my new
website - http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/havanamoon or directly at
http://angelfire.com/ny3/havanamoon/timsgigs.html
>
>well, this assumes that joan is out at work, which it doesn't sound
>like she is (love how i am talking about you as "she" joan?  <g>).
>also, if she is out, i think it would be better for morale and also her
>relationship with her co-workers if she said something personally to
>them before reporting them to hr.  it's possible that they just don't
>understand that they are making her uncomfortable.
>
>i always believe it's better to try to handle something in a friendly
>manner first, before you "report" people.
>
>jean

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okay kids, this may be adding fuel to the fire, but damn! i'm cold and some
flaming panties might actually take away the chill, so screw the asbestos
suit.

the following site discussing the monetary cost of the death penalty versus
the monetary cost of life imprisonment is presented by the death penalty
focus of california:

http://worldpolicy.org/americas/dp/dp-cost.html

i've posted for illustrative purposes. i cannot confirm or deny the accuracy
of the information.

det. munch


on      wed, 3 nov 1999 12:08:24 est,   emistar919@aol.com wrote:

>murder? think about it.  also, finally, it does cost a hell of a lot more
to execute a person than to keep them incarcerated for life.  people always
try to argue with me on this one, displaying their ignorance on the subject.
do some research, find out what you're talking about.


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hi
does any one have the seating arragment for the dayton show.  i am still
trying to figure out if i got good/bad tickets.  (as if any ticket for ig
could be bad;-)

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in a message dated 11/3/99 12:10:06 pm eastern standard time,
emistar919@aol.com writes:

<< ok. first of all, not that it matters very much, but aren't ig against the
death penalty?
     when you are morally opposed to capital punishment, it does not matter
what the crime was.  are we saying that, because it was a hate crime,
shephard's killers shoud be killed?  when you say that his killers should be
tied to a fence and beaten, you are reasoning with the same violent rage that
led them to kill him.  how is this any different than any other sort of
murder?  how can you be opposed to extra-judicial murder, but be in favor of
government-sanctioned murder? think about it.  also, finally, it does cost a
hell of a lot more to execute a person than to keep them incarcerated for
life.  people always try to argue with me on this one, displaying their
ignorance on the subject.  do some research, find out what you're talking
about. >>

sure, ig are most certainly against the death penalty.  that doesn't mean
that their whole fan base is though.  i disagree with sevral of their
political stances, but i love their music all the same, and i greatly admire
that they'll stand up for whatever it is they believe regardless of whether i
support those particular beliefs.
no, i don't think that the recent posts were meant to say that matthew
shepard's murderer should be excecuted specifically because the crime he
commited was motivated by hate or because the victim was gay.  those posters
were obviously not morally opposed to the death penalty.  "reasoning with...
violent rage" is a bit of a paradox.  ascribing all lines of reasoning which
conclude that the death penalty is an appropriate punative measure to violent
rage is no better than ascribing the lines of reasoning which conclude that
the death penalty is cruel and unsual to bleading heart liberalism.  i do see
a difference between homocide as muder and homocide as legaly sanctioned
punishment.  i'm only opposed to the death penalty because the judicial
system is full of institutionalized racism and classism, not on inherant
moral grounds.

just my thoughts,
shana

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jon griffin wrote:
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> can people not see the footer which contains the
> address for the faq? does it cut off?
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<chuckel> - i've oftened wondered that myself.  maybe though some of the
people who asked don't have web access, or maybe they have no idea that
the answer can be found with a click on the faq (frequently asked
questions) address found at the end of each post, as you indicated.  so
unless you're a simpleton, reading the information contained in the faq
and figuring out how to unsub is easy.  wow! doing it yourself!  what a
concept!

forgive the sarcasm - i have a wicked bad headache and i'm in a pissy
mood.

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hi y'all,

i took a step back to assess before weighing in on this matter, because the
mckinney case is so particularly repugnant.  i have always considered myself
anti-death penalty, but it is so tempting to say, "in this case i'll make an
exception....."  but will that make me any different from my friends steve
and julie, both city of buffalo police officers, who want to see mumia fry
because he's a cop-killer?  where do you draw the line?

the emotional quest for revenge is a powerful one, but seeing mckinney burn
won't bring back matt shepard or restore his lost promise.  i recall writing
in an exchange of private messages after lance's moving report on matt's
funeral last year that "i wonder how the homophobic mckinney is enjoying his
stay in prison?", but then i realized that i was falling into another of the
many societal fallacies regarding homosexuality.  the men who rape in prison
are invariably hetero males who are using a weaker individual as an object
for their own personal release.  rape is a crime of violence...

it takes an extremely objective eye to see that mckinney and henderson and
their families are victims as well....victims of the societal pressures that
encourage the use of superior physical force and discourage open displays of
emotion....victims of the inflammatory rhetoric that seeks to make an
expression of love into a sin....victims of fear....

there is an old axiom that states "hate the sin, but love the sinner...."

it's only through working to change society's attitudes toward "queer"
people (society's adjective, not mine), that we will ever stand a chance of
avoiding the type of violence that struck matthew shepard down.  no hate
crime law, as comforting as that may be in theory, could have saved matt
from the fear, the ignorance, and the violence which took his life....

it's a long road we're walking down, but at least we're walking together
with amy and emily's courage and example to lead us (igc at last!!!)

peace, love and harmony,
tim
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to: indigogirls@egroups.com <indigogirls@egroups.com>
date: wednesday, november 03, 1999 12:21 pm
subject: [indigogirls] re: nigc: death penalty


>which is one of the reasons i support an overhaul of the death penalty.
>first, quit using it as racial cleansing. second, quit letting the people
>appeal over the next 15 years.
>
>i contest the idea that the actual execution is that expensive. once again,
>i wonder at all of this compassion being given to capital murderers yet no
>one has uttered anything about the cost to the victim's family! there is no
>cost higher than the unneeded loss of a loved one. let's start talking
about
>those costs.
>
>ryan
>
>> -----original message-----
>> from: amanda-i am carbon-shopa [mailto:biodb8er@rocketmail.com]
>> sent: wednesday, november 03, 1999 4:07 am
>> to: indigogirls@egroups.com
>> subject: [indigogirls] re: nigc: death penalty
>>
>>
>>
>> > and furthermore, in lieu of death, keep him locked
>> > up forever!  i know
>> > it's expensive . . .
>>
>> actually, trying to kill someone costs more than
>> locking them up forever.  reason?  when someone is on
>> death row they can keep appealing for years--and the
>> entire time they're on death row they are kept in
>> solitary confinement which is more expensive then just
>> throwing several of them in a cell together.
>>
>> besides that, the actual killing is really expensive
>> too.
>>
>> when i was a debater one of our topics was juvinile
>> crime and some of our cases were to legalize alcohol
>> for all ages, ban the juvi dp and ban punishment
>> across the board--without punishment nothing is a
>> crime, jails just teach criminals to be better at it, etc.
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is anyone heading to next week's portland show that might be able to swing
by corvallis and give me a ride? i'll gladly split gas costs with you. i
only need a ride to portland.

i don't bite ... unless provoked, and i'll bring my manners with me. and,
um, i have references.

thanks,
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hkf's,

just updated my site with all of the current information found here & on tm.
every show is confirmed and onsale now, except for one show:

12/12/99  fort wayne, in - embassy theatre
(219)424-1811 *tentative*

the theater person just told me that the show is not on their schedule, so
it's probably a mistake.  i'm leaving it on my site - with the *tentative*
for now.  if anyone has any information on this show that i might have
missed, please let us/me know asap!

thanks!
a+e=ig

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perhaps it may be easier to contact hrc.  i do believe that they have this
program (i think) where they will contact your company and help them
understand that support & protection of their gay employees is as important
as race, religion, or sex (and in this case, i mean male or female).

or, they may talk to you to help you talk to your company.  i'm sure there
are ways to handle this anonymously or in a dignified manner.

i know that there are thousands of us who are not out and those of us who
have to face bigots everywhere you turn.  but if none of us participate in
this fight, our community will never get anywhere.

joan, i'm sure there's someway that you can have your dissatisfaction
communicated while still protecting your privacy.

peace and pride,
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aaron mckinney has been found guilty of second degree murder, felony first
degree murder, and kidnapping.  the felony first degree murder conviction
has to do with a murder occurring during the commission of a felony (robbery
or kidnapping) and carries the possibility of the death penalty.

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mckinney was found guilty!!  yea!  i didn't think he'd get off, but you
never know.

sentencing begins tomorrow.

peace and pride,
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only contact hrc if you care only about gay & lesbian rights. i stopped
organizing on campus for them years ago when they worked to exclude the tg
and bisexual communities from enda and consistently refuse to include them
in their mission statement. i support ngltf and i am sure they have a
similar program.

btw, elizabeth birch is coming to seattle soon and there is a protest
planned because of hrc's abysmal record on human rights for all. anyone
interested, i have more info at home and maybe i'll see some of y'all there.

ryan

ryan

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>perhaps it may be easier to contact hrc.  i do believe that they have this
>program (i think) where they will contact your company and help them
>understand that support & protection of their gay employees is as important
>as race, religion, or sex (and in this case, i mean male or female).

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=====
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i want to thank everyone who wrote me privately and
publicly for their kind words, support and suggestions
re:  dealing with intolerance at work.  you guys are
awesome :o)

peace!

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yesterday a gunman killed 7 people at a xerox office in honolulu.

today a gunman killed one and injured three at a seattle dockyard.

this is scary.

also, what is this weird justification that mckinney killed matthew shepard
because ms made a homosexual pass at him?  i don't get that.  i'm a gay
woman.  am i justified in killing some guy who makes a heterosexual pass at
me?  i'm not used to guys making passes at me after all.


sorry, y'all.  just needed to vent.
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sheryl jones
sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu
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y'all, this is about 3 blocks from my store. all businesses in the area are
locked down as are the schools. i so want to leave but the cops are telling
people to stay put. copters are flying around and my mom is worried sick now
but i called and told her not to worry.

ryan

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subject: nigc: what is going on?!


>yesterday a gunman killed 7 people at a xerox office in honolulu.
>
>today a gunman killed one and injured three at a seattle dockyard.
>
>this is scary.
>
>also, what is this weird justification that mckinney killed matthew shepard
>because ms made a homosexual pass at him?  i don't get that.  i'm a gay
>woman.  am i justified in killing some guy who makes a heterosexual pass at
>me?  i'm not used to guys making passes at me after all.
>
>
>sorry, y'all.  just needed to vent.
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in case you all are interested:

>november 3, 1999
>
>
>              mckinney found guilty in gay attack
>
>
>              a.p. indexes: top stories | news | sports | business |
>technology | entertainment
>
>
>              filed at 1:57 p.m. est
>
>              by the associated press
>
>              laramie, wyo. (ap) -- a drug-dealing roofer was convicted
>today of murder in the
>              beating of a gay college student, making him eligible for
>the death sentence for a slaying so
>              brutal it spurred calls for hate-crime laws around the nation.
>
>              in addition to felony murder, aaron mckinney was convicted
>of second-degree murder,
>              aggravated robbery and kidnapping in the death of matthew
>shepard. the jury of seven men
>              and five women returned the verdicts after about 10 hours of
>deliberation. the jurors,
>              however, rejected a first-degree murder charge that mckinney
>had planned the attack.
>
>              the sentencing phase, where the jurors will consider the
>death penalty, is to begin thursday.
>
>              as the jury prepared to announce its verdict, mckinney, 22,
>stood next to his two attorneys,
>              looking impassive, arms crossed in front of him. when the
>first verdict was read -- guilty of
>              kidnapping -- his arms dropped to his sides. his father,
>william, looked straight ahead with
>              no emotion.
>
>              shepard, 21, a university of wyoming freshman majoring in
>political science, met
>              mckinney and russell henderson at a laramie bar on oct. 6,
>1998.
>
>              prosecutors said mckinney and henderson lured shepard from
>the bar and drove him to a
>              remote spot on the prairie, where they tied him to a wooden
>rail fence, robbed him of $20
>              and pistol-whipped him into a coma.
>
>              eighteen hours later, shepard, bruised and bleeding, was
>found still lashed to the fence. he
>              died five days later at a fort collins, colo., hospital
>without regaining consciousness.
>
>              authorities said robbery was the primary motive but that the
>slightly-built shepard also was
>              singled out because he was gay.
>
>              henderson pleaded guilty in april to kidnapping and murder,
>and is serving two life
>              sentences.
>
>              in closing arguments tuesday, prosecutor cal rerucha paused
>for 60 seconds to let the jury
>              reflect in silence on the beating inflicted on shepard.
>
>              ''think what 60 seconds was to matthew shepard,'' rerucha
>said. ''it's a short time if
>              you're eating an ice cream cone. it's a long time if you're
>descending into hell not knowing
>              what fate will meet you there.''
>
>              defense attorneys argued that mckinney, in a drug-induced
>rage, lost control after shepard
>              made an unwanted sexual advance.
>
>              they were barred from using a ''gay panic'' strategy, which
>is based on the theory that a
>              person with latent gay tendencies will have an
>uncontrollable, violent reaction when
>              propositioned by a homosexual.
>
>              district judge barton voigt ruled that the strategy was akin
>to temporary insanity or a
>              diminished-capacity defense -- both prohibited under wyoming
>law. the ruling essentially
>              let the defense argue the beating was a crime of passion but
>not present the theory that the
>              passion was caused by a specific mental condition.
>
>              in his closing argument, public defender dion custis told
>the jury that mckinney was in an
>              ''emotional rage.''
>
>              ''(he) is not a cold-blooded murderer, ladies and gentlemen,
>he reacted,'' custis said.
>              ''there was no thought process.''
>
>              shepard's death sparked vigils around the country denouncing
>the murder as a hate crime
>              and renewed efforts for laws protecting homosexuals from
>such crimes.
>
>              in wyoming's legislature, however, proposed hate-crime bills
>failed. opponents
>              complained that gays and other protected groups would get
>special treatment and argued that
>              existing laws are enough. president clinton's push to expand
>federal hate crime legislation to
>              protect gays also fell short.
>
>              shepard went to high school in switzerland, spoke three
>languages and had traveled the
>              world before returning to his native wyoming to attend the
>university. he was raised in a
>              close, loving family made comfortable by his father's job in
>a multinational oil company.
>
>              mckinney and his friend henderson came from the poor side of
>town. both were from
>              broken homes and as teen-agers had had run-ins with the law.
>they lived in trailer parks and
>              scratched out a living working at fast-food restaurants and
>fixing roofs.

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hi!

i am going to the ig concert in berkeley on sunday the 7th.  right now
i am looking at not being able to go because i can't be sure i'll make
it back to bart by midnight.  i really really would love it if anyone
headed back to sf after the concert could give me a ride...  i'm in noe
valley so it's not like it's way out in the richmond or something :)
i'll pay for gas... but you a drink at the show... whatever!

anyway, if you are able to offer me a ride, please email me privately.

thanks!

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in a message dated 11/3/99 10:59:37 am central standard time,
mcgee@oregontrail.net writes:

<< (they took a break here to explain that they'd just come from a couple of
       really difficult gigs, and that they were thrilled to see the phx crowd
being
       so warm and friendly. >>

any ideas what they were talking about here.  i was at shows in both dallas
and austin and neither of these seemed like anything that could be called
"really difficult."  anything happen in san diego that would qualify?  just
curious...

pam

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i have one extra ticket for the concert at hult center in eugene on
sunday, november 14.
orchestra row f seat 302

face value plus whatever service charges apply (i think maybe $1-2).

here's the seating chart:
http://www.hultcenter.org/tickets.htm

please email me off list if you're interested.

-bon

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i was at both the vegas and phoenix shows and the audience was fantastic.  btw
graham, the kids who jumped on the stage at phoenix nabbed water bottles and
picks, not setlists.  sulli passed those out to the considerate fans who
waited very patiently.

gram


on wed, 3 nov 1999 mnoelm@aol.com wrote:

> in a message dated 11/3/99 10:59:37 am central standard time,
> mcgee@oregontrail.net writes:
>
> << (they took a break here to explain that they'd just come from a couple of
>        really difficult gigs, and that they were thrilled to see the phx crowd
>  being
>        so warm and friendly. >>
>
> any ideas what they were talking about here.  i was at shows in both dallas
> and austin and neither of these seemed like anything that could be called
> "really difficult."  anything happen in san diego that would qualify?  just
> curious...
>
> pam
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for those of you who don't live in los angeles (well . . . in the areas of
l.a. that actually pick up kacd), their live in-studio performance at
studio c will be broadcast in realaudio on the channel 103.1 website.

http://www.channel1031.com

it's about half a minute behind the radio broadcast (i know; i just
checked), but it'll be there.  ;)  just click on "listen live."  heck,
you'll probably get better reception than most people will get off the radio!

again, this'll be on thursday, 4 november, at 4:00 pm pacific time.
(thanks again for the alert, april!)
i'll also be taping it, so . . .

battle on,
shanie
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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the newsgroup - please direct your
replies to the original poster at seehuck@my-deja.com,
not to me...

-sherlyn

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subject: 2 tickets for 11/4 - wiltern
date: wed, 03 nov 1999 21:07:12 gmt

i have two tickets for sale (at cost of $37.50
each) for thursday night 11/4 at the wiltern.
these are in the second row of the balcony, right
on the center aisle.  should be a great spot from
which to watch the show.  i'd like to make a
pre-show exchange in downtown l.a if possible
(this afternoon or tomorrow before 5pm).  if
interested, page me at 213-470-1751 and i'll call
you back. note:  i'm selling 'cause i nabbed some
pit seats (row aaa) from tm-online!!!


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before you buy.

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could we get back to ig stuff please.  i know that i contributed to this
also, but . . .

tat

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thank you for all of your comments during this rather harrowing experience.
we left the shop after a couple hours. needless to say, no one was much in
the mood for shopping. they still have not found the shooter and one of the
other victims died.

can some1 explain to me why stricter gun controls are a bad thing?

ryan blackhawke
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according to ticketmaster.com, the opening act for the indianapolis show
(murat theatre) will be michelle malone.

the only thing that would make me happier would be if rose p. opened the
bloomington show, so i'd get to hear them both. :) i haven't found any
info on who's opening here, though.

- anne, very pleased

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   i'm ready to leave all this wreckage behind me."  -rose polenzani, "or"
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on wed, 3 nov 1999, ryan blackhawke wrote:

> thank you for all of your comments during this rather harrowing experience.
> we left the shop after a couple hours. needless to say, no one was much in
> the mood for shopping. they still have not found the shooter and one of the
> other victims died.
>
> can some1 explain to me why stricter gun controls are a bad thing?

ryan,

i'm sure i speak for everyone when i say that we're glad you and your
loved ones are alright.  <collective sigh>

kelly

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i had a request that i post the number to contact for
the auctioned private show in the sf bay area, but
truth be told, i have no idea what it is... do any
other bay area listees know either the phone number or
web address for radio alice (97.3)??

thanks,
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the website for alice radio is www.radioalice.com

cindy

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i think the waxing and waning is really about ozilline and how she's
feeling in the last phase of her life. when you get to be old and you know
you might not have lots of time left, waxing and waning of your health is
probably a pretty big issue in your life. even if the thought of death
doesn't preoccupy you, it is really difficult to go through health
problems, so naturally it is always on your mind. i had this conversation
with my grandmother many times over the past five years as her health waxed
and waned in an overall decline. wish i could have shared this song with
her before she died. i think she would have liked it.

see - consider this part as a sentence, with bringing the medicine and
avoiding decline setting up the context for the waxing and waning:

>sister, bring the medicine
>to keep you from decline,
>but it's the waxing and the waning
>that's always on your mind.

it resonates wonderfully with first sentence about the moon - very nice
imagery (you go amy!). what do you think the full moon and not needing a
torchlight is about? to me - the cycle of ozilline's life is almost full.
she won't need a torchlight to see where she will journey next. more great
imagery - the fullness cycle's last phase as all you need to illuminate
this next journey.

the next verse is all about life cycles, and after that it is about the
broken-ness of the body at the end of the life cycle. and all the way
through how amy feels for ozilline as she lives through this last stage of
life. amy sees the cycle, knows that she is just at another place in the
same cycle, and seems to be learning from her grandmother that it is just
as natural a process as the bird feeding on the ripened berry. - "ozilline
she won't let you cry, if you ask her how she feels. she says what a
blessed sky."

what a blessed song, eh?

so i don't read much more into it than this, though i guess this fits well
with pagan symbolism.

-sue

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at 01:23 am 11/3/1999 -0500, shannon mast wrote:

>about this "waxing and waning" thing...the thing that always came to my mind
>was the moon also, but i took it in reference to the cycle of the moon
>serving as a reminder that she (ozilline) is continually getting older with
>each passing day and each passing moon cycle. hence, it's "always on her
>mind."

that's what i was thinking as well.  not only in the sense of months
passing, but also the general lifecycle--kind of like that old riddle about
what walks on four legs in the morning, two legs at noon, and three at
night.  you know . . . sort of how the "best years of your life" tend to
come somewhere in the middle, more or less.

battle on,
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hey folks,

i was going to post an long message detailing my reactions to cons,
but i don't think i'll be able to get up the momentum anytime soon.
eh.  so, here are a few random thoughts instead...

i) emily's diction.  as in, "the welcome return of"!  yay.

ii) i miss the mega-emily guitar solos of the old days.  by
comparison with, say, nis, there are barely any solos here at all.
instrumental breaks aren't really a substitute, in my book.

iii) all the songs are still in the first person, but this is the
first time that the "i" has recognisably *not* been amy or emily -
"cold beer and remote control", "andy", maybe even "faye tucker"?
interesting.

iv) it would be interesting to hear "soon be to nothing" with the
full string treatment, rather than just the theremin and organ.
also, it seems strange to me that there's a rattling sound after
emily says "click" - it should be, well, a click...

v) i wish there was a big rock finish (a la "problem child" on
1200c) on "go".

vi) "trouble" needs more bass!  i like the mandolin though.

vii) it bugs me that the last few lines of "ozillene" aren't on
the lyric sheet.

viii) i don't like "philosophy of loss".

and that's enough from me.

*grin*
sherlyn
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susan brill wrote:
>>i think the waxing and waning is really about ozilline and how she's
feeling in the last phase of her life. when you get to be old and you know
you might not have lots of time left, waxing and waning of your health is
probably a pretty big issue in your life. even if the thought of death
doesn't preoccupy you, it is really difficult to go through health
problems, so naturally it is always on your mind.

i think that just the opposite is implied in the lyrics. susan offers the
following to support her view, but here's another way of looking at it
(which i think is supported by something amy has said in concert but more
about that later.)


>sister, bring the medicine
>to keep you from decline,
>but it's the waxing and the waning
>that's always on your mind.

to me these lines relate to the fact that when ozilline is asked how she
is, she does not reply to the question but instead chooses to focus on the
beauty of the sky. in the above lines she *is* brought medicine for her
health but that is not something she is overly concerned about; rather, the
waxing and the waning of the moon is of greater importance to her. when amy
introduced this song (at -i think-a writers night at eddie's attic)  she
said that whenever she asked about her grandmother's health or started to
feel upset about it, her grandmother would just deflect the negative
emotions and the questions. actually amy says that in the song as well with
"ozilline she won't let you cry."
so it's more about a focus on that which is external than about a
consciousness of one's internal well-being, although i suppose the focus on
the external could be an indication of a healthy mental outlook.

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www.cookingvinyl.com is starting to put studio clips up..to the teeth seems
disturbingly slow paced compared to the ferociousness of hearing it live on
the f-word tour, and yes, i am *still* reeling from seeing her (in costume)
last saturday @ uconn (5 shows in 1999, nope, no obsession here...)
although, having friends that work at major network tv stations, i still
cringe when i hear that line...

so anyone out there with the new album able to tape me a copy? (and if you
don't think i'm not going to buy it the first day, believe me, i will
probably pre-order from rbr, but just incase someone had an mp3 or real
audio site???

one can only hope -
mike r.
mike r.

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hi everyone. sorry about the nicg here but i just started an club on yahoo
for fans of catie curtis and other similar music and i thought a few of you
might be interrested. i myself am a huge catie fan and i've seen her in
concert seven or eight times in the past year and a half. i hope some of you
decide to join, it would be great to get some good discussiong going over
there like we have on this list.
here's the address: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/catiecurtisfans
i look forward to hearing from some of you.
-karen

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vivo de milagro wrote:btw

> graham, the kids who jumped on the stage at phoenix nabbed water bottles and
> picks, not setlists.  sulli passed those out to the considerate fans who
> waited very patiently.

um, actually, no.  i was standing right in front of the stage when the initial wave
of infants leapt upon the stage to loot, and walked out of the auditorium directly
behind a girl and her boyfriend who were looking over a setlist i watched them rip
off the floor.  put me under oath, and my tale will not change.

-graham

graham ames
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<a
href="http://www.radioalice.com/cgi-bin/sfoca/radioalice/unique_users.cgi">cli
ck here: - - alice @ 97.3 - -</a>

http://www.radioalice.com/cgi-bin/sfoca/radioalice/unique_users.cgi

here is the address for more info on the breast cancer benefit with the girls.

cheers,
katherine

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ditto

thanks for expressing that so eloquently for me :) lisa

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<<  i'm only opposed to the death penalty because the judicial
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just my thoughts,
shana >>

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i don't see how the san diego concert could have been rough since the crowd
was super nice and really into the music. perhaps there were outside factors
that drained them and made performing harder. just a guess.
-sam (trying to work up the energy to share my 2 cents on the claremont concert)

mnoelm@aol.com wrote:
> << (they took a break here to explain that they'd just come from a couple of
>        really difficult gigs, and that they were thrilled to see the phx crowd
>  being so warm and friendly. >>
>
> any ideas what they were talking about here.  i was at shows in both dallas
> and austin and neither of these seemed like anything that could be called
> "really difficult."  anything happen in san diego that would qualify?  just
> curious...

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> to me these lines relate to the fact that when ozilline is asked how she
> is, she does not reply to the question but instead chooses to focus on the
> beauty of the sky. in the above lines she *is* brought medicine for her
> health but that is not something she is overly concerned about; rather, the
> waxing and the waning of the moon is of greater importance to her. when amy
> introduced this song (at -i think-a writers night at eddie's attic)  she
> said that whenever she asked about her grandmother's health or started to
> feel upset about it, her grandmother would just deflect the negative
> emotions and the questions. actually amy says that in the song as well with
> "ozilline she won't let you cry."

this interp seems to me, too, to fit with the first few lines of the song,
"the moon is almost full and you don't need a porch light...."  well done,
ms sarah!

chris ii

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email me if you're interested.  it's row kk, and i'll take the best offer
going.

thanks,
alison

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anyone interested in setting up a listmeet for either or both of the
oregon shows?

i'm getting so excited!! just 1 week until portland!!! =)

shannon

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who has seen the latest concert?

the dallas show rocked!

-chee

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neily!!!!!  please email me!  i've lost your snail mail & need to send you
something.

~~jennifer
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well us, of course! what a way to celebrate our birthdays with seeing the
girls in oregon on the 10th and the in seattle on the 12th (wonder if i can
get them to sing happy birfday to my wife...).

i know nothing about portland besides its got about the coolest bus station
so i'd have to leave it to someone else to set up but we could show...before
the show only tho since breanna has to be at work the next morning.

ryan

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> oregon shows?
>
> i'm getting so excited!! just 1 week until portland!!! =)
>
> shannon
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not that they are related. anyway, my dad just had a kidney removed because
of complications from chemo. he was on the table for 15 hours but the old
guy was feeling pretty sprightly, flirting with the nurses!

they still haven't caught the shooter. i couldn't stand being in the store
but we were near the border of their perimeter so we hopped into the van and
made a safe getaway. they had a "person of interest" but they just released
him. the description they gave out would probably fit 20% of the population
so the task is daunting.

i love this list. needless to say, my day was filled with high anxiety but i
knew i could count on support from the list. y'all are great! you have no
idea how much your notes helped.

ryan

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hey.  i think this has been mentioned before (by jill, whats up jill??), but
since it seems evident that we have some hard-core ani fans here, i just
wanted to remind you that ani's former drummer/sidekick of 7 years, andy
stochansky, is on tour, his first solo tour i believe.  he has a  show at the
iron horse in northampton, ma this saturday night, which apparently is not
selling tickets very fast.  this i find strange since he is such an amazing
performer and i'm sure lots of people saw him with ani.

does anyone here remember andy??

in my humble opinion andy was/is much better than her new drummer, whatever
his name is.  he added so much to those shows through his back-up vocals and
various percussive contributions.  so now his is doing a solo thing, has a
great cd called radio fusebox (with really cool liner notes), and he is truly
phenomenal live.  truly.  so if you live anywhere near the iron horse check
him out!!  (even if you have to do it as a favor for me, cuz it will make me
happy if he does well.  and so you can come say hi to me at the show.)

"andy was one of this festival's most striking figures....pouring himself
into
his songs, reaching almost instinctively for hand drums, or clapping his
own accompaniment, or banging on an oil drum to maintain the groove."
                           canadian national post on festival d'ete de quebec

"andy stochansky's radiofusebox is a  space, loose and
thoughtful with plenty of breath. his harmonies simply ache with
beauty, while the beats pile up gently underneath."
-erin mckeown

by the way, andy has played with jonathan richman, janis ian, jane siberry,
john gorka, and ..................the indigo girls!!!!  and i mean with, not
opened for (since this is his first solo tour).  if you need a reminder of
who he is, go listen to living in clip, especially the hidden track/story at
the end of disc 2 about jesus and buddha and anne frank.

or go to www.andystochanksy.com

sat, 11/6/99, 7pm
the iron horse, 20 center street, northampton, ma
tickets: only $8.00
split bill with mighty purple

and ps he's playing with erin mkeown on sunday in providence, see website for
that and other dates.....


love jess

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just letting you va listees know, i'm playing at borders books and music in
richmond on w. broad st. on friday, nov. 5 at 7:30pm.  come on out if you
feel like it.  i'm doing some ig stuff (natch), and my gf susan is making
her debut on guitar - yeehaw.

i haven't played since april, and my fingers are killing me from practice.
wish me luck.  and come on out if you're in the area.

-tara james

(the artist formerly known as tara lane the ig bootlegger)

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date:         thu, 4 nov 1999 09:19:28 -0800
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hello all,
i have three extra tix to the sat., dec. 11th ig show @ veteran's memorial
auditorium in columbus.  they are section 3, row cc1, seats 111 to 113.
face value.  hmm, how much is that?  the tix aren't in front of me.  i know
they're $43 each w/ticketb. charges, but i'll cover those, so i'm guessing
around $36 or  37?  email me if you're interested.
lisa

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hi everyone!

just to let you know that on our unofficial ig website we have a page where
you can find ig e-mail pals from all over the world. we keep adding new
fans and new countries, so check it out and make some new ig e-mail
friends! or better yet, add your name to the list!

darlene
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hi all,

thanks so much to whoever it was (i'm sorry, i don't remember!) that
posted the info regarding ig on world cafe.  since i work at a public
radio station (www.krwgfm.org  give us a visit) i have, at my tiny little
fingertips, the ability to record world cafe even though we won't be
airing it.  :d

and, i have the rundown on the ig segment on the cafe'.

it occurs in the second hour (as someone has already posted), about 15
minutes into the hour.

here's what's on the show:
                talk                             :47sec
                "gone again                     3:30
                talk                            2:56
                "peace tonight"                 3:53
                talk                            2:38
                "go"                            3:32
                talk                            2:58
                "cold beer and remote control"  3:53
                talk                            1:19
                "land of canaan"                3:45
                talk/out                         :13

i'm going to record it an may be able to offer it to the list to those who
can't pick it up on their local public radio station and would not be
using it to sell or put my job in jeopardy.  i'm doing this because of
you, the kind people on this list.  but, i am asking that if you do
receive this boot that it not be used for commercial reproduction.  only
for your personal enjoyment.

this is the second time i've recorded them on the cafe and it's
always a good-feelin' experience.  i'll post more next week after i have
it ready to offer.

take care.

carrie
the las cruces boot master

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hey y'all,

a couple of days ago i thought someone posted something about hrc not being
bi/trans friendly and i accidentally deleted it, so i can't check to see if
this was real or just in my head.  anyway, if you're that person, could you
email me?  i just wanted to ask you a couple of questions.  thanks!

~taylor

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>>sister, bring the medicine
>>to keep you from decline,
>>but it's the waxing and the waning
>>that's always on your mind.
>
>to me these lines relate to the fact that when ozilline is asked how she
>is, she does not reply to the question but instead chooses to focus on
>the beauty of the sky. in the above lines she *is* brought medicine for
>her health but that is not something she is overly concerned about;
>rather, the waxing and the waning of the moon is of greater importance to
>her.


wow - sarah! you know, i never thought about the first verse in this
context - i absolutely believe it is the overall message but i just didn't
see it in these lines originally. i love it!

how cool is amy that she's written a beautiful song like this after all
those years of saying she can't deal with the thought of death. what a nice
message ozilline inspires in this song.

-susan

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    for all interested:  listmeet for the saturday 11/6 show in berkeley.
        the original mel's on 2240 shattuck ave.
        one block up from the berkeley community theatre
        5:30 pm
jennifer

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hey all-
i saw a daemon records bumper sticker in the sf bay area!  i was driving down 280, near the exit for 92, when i spotted a teal minivan on which i first noticed the rainbow sticker, but then that familiar black and white daemon sticker right next to it totally made my morning!  i stepped on the gas to try to catch up to the van, but they were quite speedy, and i had to get off on 92.  but if anyone on this list owns a teal minivan and happened to notice a freak in a white honda civic chasing them down 280, that was why! :)
i swear, i have never met (in person anyway) anybody who knows what the hell daemon is, so this was way cool!
also, moments later, i heard an ad on kfog for the 11/7 ig concert, and around that time, i happily listened to a woman win tickets from the "9:00 pop quiz" to the 11/6 show.  they've been giving away tix to that show for the past few days, and i've been very much enjoying hearing the reactions of the winners.  usually it's not very exciting, something like "excellent, thanks!", but one woman the other day exclaimed "thanks y'all!"   i laughed out loud.  i knew she *appreciated* her prize. :)
i don't know why these little things amuse me so much...
leslie

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since sam has yet to post a full review of the show tuesday at pomona, i
guess i'll have to speak up and fill you all in.

first, the setlist.
go
trouble
land of canaan
virginia wolf
ozilline
cold beer and a dumb ass hotel (this is what was written on the set list)
shed your skin
love will come to you
gone again
closer to fine (amy's hand gestures were very helpful when we sang the last
verse                             ourselves)
faye tucker (amy's maniacal <sp?> laugh was great in this one)
get out the map
sister
peace tonight (a very happy song, emily explained)
johnny rotten
power of two (carla played a cool intro to this on her keyboard and emily
gave her the sweetest smile when she finished)
shame on you

encore:
or with rose
galileo

fashion report:
amy was wearing her blue suede platforms (of course!), black and white
finely checkered pants and a white pin-striped long sleeved button up shirt,
rolled to the elbows.

emily was wearing a pair of black pants and a blue button up long sleeve
shirt. i didn't notice any glittery eye shadow this time...

i was ushering and i talked to my boss, who invited us backstage before the
show, and he said that the girls were being kind of reclusive, especially
emily, because pomona reminds her a lot of her sister (an alumn who passed
away recently). i thought maybe it would be a mellow show but i was wrong,
even with a claremont audience. the girls were really high energy and full
of smiles.

favorite moments.
blair (the drummer) had this crazy tendency of throwing his drum sticks off
stage right in the middle of songs. i think he was trying to hit one of the
sound-check dudes, but he did it twice and both times the entire band
started cracking up. (he had spare drum sticks, don't worry)

there was an orchestra pit separating the stage from the front row by about
20 feet and there were four mean looking security guys sitting in the pit to
make sure no-one got in it. emily pointed out that the distance "sucked" and
she asked the bouncers if they were nice. they didn't reply and amy said
that they were protecting us from the pit of hell. emily made a reference to
the three headed dog that guards the gates of hell in greek myth and she
couldn't remember the name. amy finally remembered (with a little help from
the audienc) and emily pointed out that she should have remembered because
it was in the crossword puzzle only a few weeks ago.

a little boy came up to the stage with two sets of roses- he must have been
about nine or ten, and a security guard lifted him across the orchestra pit
to the stage and amy put her guitar down during songs (i think it was after
love will come to you) and came over to take the flowers and to thank him.
(lucky boy!!) as he walked back to his seat, emily said that's what we need
more of- "young male fans!!"

amy took a large swig of water at one point in between songs and then spit
all of it out at blair (although she missed him and got his drums instead).
emily started laughing hysterically, it was pretty cute.

as an intro to gone again, amy said she was in australia trying to write a
letter to a girl back home whom she had hoped would be her girlfriend- she
said she was kind of indecisive about what she wanted. she had this sheepish
smile on her face when she told the story. it was great.

when they stopped to introduce the band, emily said the band needed a
"proper" introduction because, seeing that they are all british, they were a
proper, tea-drinking sort. the band was laughing at her sarcasm but it was
true- carol, the keyboard player, saluted the audience with her tea-mug when
emily introduced her.

before amy played sys, someone requested blood and fire from the back of the
audience. amy said, as she's explained before, that she tried to play it a
while ago but she had forgotten- she comforted the audience by saying,
"here's a song that's a lot like it though." and then she corrected herself
and said, "actually, it's not like it at all..." and the audience laughed.
then she said, "spinal tap", which made the audience laugh even harder,
before she said, "just kidding" and launched into song. (did that make
sense? i guess you had to be there...)

all in all, this was a great show. i wasn't sure what to expect of the
claremont audience but the girls were really appreciative that we were so
attentive and as emily said, "sweet". there was a lot of laughter and they
seemed really relaxed on stage- when a bunch of girls shrieked loudly in
between songs, emily exclaimed, "you go girls!"

it was a great night and i've had a permanent smile on my face since. and
best of all, i'm seeing them again tonight! it doesn't get much better than
this.

tamara

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date:         thu, 4 nov 1999 11:15:03 -0800
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>power of two (carla played a cool intro to this on her keyboard and emily
>gave her the sweetest smile when she finished)

whoops, i meant carol, not carla. sorry about that.

tamara

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date:         thu, 4 nov 1999 09:46:02 -0500
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hi everyone:

i'm considering planning a trip to atlanta to see our
girls on the weekend of the 18th.  i havn't made any
solid plans yet because i'm not sure if i have the
guts to go it alone, but i really want to go.

can anyone who lives in or knows atlanta e-mail me
privately with info. on how to get tickets and a good
hotel really nearby since i won't have a car (i don't
drive anyway).

also, is there another show added for the 18th.

and lastly, if anyone who is not from the area
is considering the same crazy thing as me, could
you also e-mail me.  i need a lot of encouragement.

thanks.
cathy (the nut)

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wxrt just played trouble again, and listening to it from my little work
radio, i had this amazing realization of just how cool it is that  this
freaking song is on the radio.  i think it may be the first explicitly gay
song i've heard getting any sort of airplay...its something you don't even
notice, until you hear a part of yourself spelled out, and then it makes you
stop and smile.

go amy and emily!

rock on,
shelley

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hi everyone,

i thought you might like to see the schedule of the world cafe broadcast with
the indigo girls.  this is what the site had listed:

november 5, 1999
    david dye and the world cafe welcome the indigo girls to philadelphia's
indre recording studios for a special performance and interview. plus deep
forest in the album spotlight.
•  johnnie johnson "tanqueray"
•  bottle rockets "nancy sinatra"
•  warren zevon "nighttime in the switching yard"
•  bill parsons "she blinded me with science"
•  elvis costello "oliver's army"
•  deep forest "cafe europa"
•  deep forest "sweet lullaby"
•  dar williams "better things"
•  old 97's "lonely holiday"
•  the innocence mission "follow me"
•  joni mitchell "refuge of the roads"
•  jai uttal "jai's groove"
•  bonnie raitt "not the only one"
•  kate & anna mcgarrigle "goin' back to harlan"
•  linda ronstadt "sweet spot"
•  indigo girls live from indre - "gone again", "peace tonight", "go", "cold
beer and remote control", "land of canaan"
•  the pretenders "she"
•  two nice girls "sweet jane (with affection)"
•  the breeders "divine hammer"
remind me

take care,
sue

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mckinney cut a deal with procesutors and will serve
two consecutive life sentences.  so, unless he's a
cat, he'll sit in jail for the rest of his life.  i
didn't hear whether or not he will have the
opportunity for parole.

here's the link:
http://cnn.com/us/9911/04/gay.attack.verdict.03/

peace!


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in that article, it says that matthew shepard's parents helped keep
mckinney off death row.  that's what people mean when they talk about
"examining values."   i feel for those people, and bless them for their
humanity.

ruth

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> mckinney cut a deal with procesutors and will serve
> two consecutive life sentences.  so, unless he's a
> cat, he'll sit in jail for the rest of his life.  i
> didn't hear whether or not he will have the
> opportunity for parole.
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> here's the link:
> http://cnn.com/us/9911/04/gay.attack.verdict.03/
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> peace!
>
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this afternoon, as i was gathering materials to be a branch for the beacon
theatre boot and sending them off,  i was thrilled to hear the announcement
that the indigo girls would be on the world cafe tomorrow at 3pm.  then the
deejay gayly announced that he was giving a preview of tomorrow's
performance.

he said that he wondered what the title of the album meant.  amy ray
answered (in several sentences) that it was a call to everyone everywhere to
social change and openmindedness.  of course, tomorrow, when y'all listen to
the broadcast, i will be way offbase.  i can't quote word for word, but it
was a similar theme to the above.

then amy asked emily to confirm that, and she agreed, before they did an
acoustic (mandolin and guitar) version of "gone again" that was so soft and
romantic, kind of sleepy-like--perfect for the crystal autumn day i was
driving through.

big sighs,
diane

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a while back a girl named lisa wrote to me who lives in the south florida
area. i lost her email address and would like to get a hold of her. so lisa
if you are reading this please email me.

thanks,
marie

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hey all.
since i'm stuck here in the midwest, i'm attempting to listen to this
station online so as to hear the indigo's show. but my real player says that
this url has reached its capacity. :( anyone else getting this? darn
internet....
becky

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at 06:52 pm 11/4/1999 -0500, becky b. wrote:

>since i'm stuck here in the midwest, i'm attempting to listen to this
>station online so as to hear the indigo's show. but my real player says that
>this url has reached its capacity. :( anyone else getting this? darn
>internet....

oh my god, you guys, you're gonna break it, tuning in . . .

i'll be taping the studio c performance (which starts in a few minutes
now), so i guess we can arrange some sort of tape tree or something?
(someone will have to let me know about the details.  i have no idea how it
works.)


battle on,
shanie
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oh, and one other thing, in case you want to tune in later:

they'll be re-airing the webcast tonight at 9 pm pacific time.  might be
less 'net traffic then.  ;)

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hello again!
i got through!!!! thanks for all of the responses--i love this list. :) it
was short but sweet and i lost about a minute of the talking part because of
rebuffering, but it was worth it anyway. :)
tomorrow's friday everybody!!!!
becky

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i think toad & the wet sprocket go on at 9pm.  ig are on at 10pm,=20


listen to make sure!

melissa

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wow!!  did i say wow?   oh my god that was awesome...  acoustic version
of go, and amy talking oh, boy too much excitement for me..
amy, amy, amy
peace, carrie

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hey folks,

here is a copy of the article that was published in
"brother sister" (thanks anne), the newspaper from
queensland, australia...

-sherlyn

---begin article---
come on out

the indigo girls take a look at their lives and emerge from their
musical shells - they're proud of what they do, who they are, and
they're ready to rock a little.

when someone mentions the indigo girls, you may think of a dyke
icons, soft acoustic music and beautiful voices.

while these aspects are still true of the famous duo, their new
album, come on now social, sees them "come out" of their shell,
so to speak.

the women who form the indigo girls, amy ray and emily saliers,
have brought their deeply-held social activism to the forefront
of their music with this, their seventh full length album.

since their debut album, strange fire, twelve years ago, the pair
have devoted their voices, time and money to the issues that
concern them most: women's rights, protection of the environment,
the rights of indigenous peoples, gay and lesbian rights, and gun
control.

this album spells out the issues - the girls are wearing their
hearts on their sleeves.

"the most natural thing in the world for us to marry social
activism with our music, because our music is so deeply rooted in
life issues," says emily.

the title of "come on now social" is taken from a song written by
amy which doesn't appear on the collection, but the duo says it
captures the spirit of the album.

"the title is me, speaking to myself, wanting to be more of the
world, more activist and more with others," says amy.

she says it encourages the idea that "we're all still trying to
evolve - to decide what, who and how we want to be," and it
challenges the idea that, when we're young, the world wants
certain things from us - it prescribes our social acceptability."

not only did they come out as social activists on this album,
they also came out of their studio closet, inviting the likes of
joan osborne, sheryl crow, me'shell ndegeocello and sinead
o'connor's drummer, john reynolds to come on board come on now
social.

described as a producer who also happens to be a drummer,
reynolds pays particular attention to the rhythm section.

"it was inspiring to me," says emily, "because i like someone to
bring a groove to my songs."

he employed drum loops sampled from their live sessions and
beat-box rhythms that lent a subtle but serious swing to these
tunes.

reynolds also brought his own musical eclectism as a contemporary
londoner, incorporating influence from "sexual healing"-style
marvin gaye to middle eastern trance music.

amy especially related to the  celtic background of reynolds and
his fellow musicians, which is directly related to the appalachian
music she loves: "it's just like tapping into a source that's
endless."

the standouts and surprises of come on now social are many and
varied.

amy's gripping album opener, "go", is a wake-up call that rocks
hard, with a stirring message for iconoclasts of all ages: "rock
is cool but the struggle is better/go go go".  emily's "peace
tonight", on the other hand, is irresistible southern swing that
features a funky horn section imported from new orleans.

"it's just a feel-good song about creating peace in your life
through gathering with your friends and loved ones," she says.

"compromise" is punk rock, pure and simple, featuring bassist
me'shell ndegeocello and drummer kate schellenbach.

"faye tucker" is a story song of a different sort: a dark
rumination on the meaning of the life and death of karla faye
tucker, who made headlines in 1998 when she became the first
woman executed by the state of texas since the civil war.  amy
says the song is about "losing control of our destinies, all of
us."

so there it is: the indigo girls are now solid career performers.
twelve years on, they are delivering music which is still as bold,
reflective, original, brave, funny, angry, heartbreaking and
groundbreaking as the work that made them famous in the first
place.

expect a lot more where that came from.

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date:         thu, 4 nov 1999 17:56:22 -0800
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got energy and excitement to burn before i head for the wiltern in a couple
of hours, so here's the transcript of the interview that just happened on
kacd . . .  much use of the affirmative here.  ;)

andy chanley [ac]: we're in studio c this afternoon with amy ray and emily
saliers, better known as the indigo girls, thanks for coming by.

amy ray [ar]: sure.

ac: and thanks for nicole [nicole sandler, the afternoon dj], the birthday
girl, for letting me pop in here in the afternoon and do a studio c
session.  um . . .seventh album?  is that right?  come on now social?

emily saliers [es]: that's what they say.  seventh studio album.

ac: seventh studi . . . and you've had like eleven total.

ar: we've had live records and some . . . we've had indie . . . indie
releases.  i don't know.

es: and an ep.

ar: (laughs) we don't know, we don't ever know what number it is any more.

es: we don't count.

ac: you lost count?  well, that's the thing, it has to be great for you as
an artist to be able to choose from like a hundred, you know, plus songs
when you do a show.

es: well, actually, (laughs) it makes it kind of hard to write the setlist,
but it's good to have a choice, i guess.  but now we're focusing on the new
songs, obviously, 'cause the new record's out, and we're excited about
them, and they're fresh, and . . . and the . . . our fans seem to be taking
to them really well, so that's cool.

ac: will you focus on one now?

ar and es: yeah.
ar: we're gonna focus on one now.
es: we're focused.
(laughing)

ac: all right.  this is the indigo girls in studio c.

es: 2, 3 . . .

("peace tonight")
(applause)

ac: wow.  the indigo girls in studio c on channel 103.1.  uh, that's pretty
fantastic.  your voices, the harmony you make together . . . when you first
met each other, did you play a song and say "oh my god, we're gonna be rich?"

(laughing)

ar and es (emphatically): no!

ar: (while emily plucks out notes in the background) no, i mean it was more
like we were , we were in high school and just, we both played and we were
singing in the chorus together.  it was just like aa social thing, get
together and play some, and, um, all i knew how to do was sing melody back
then, although that's pretty much all i know how to do now, too, but um . .
. (ac, ar, and es laugh)  i haven't got very far.  but emily could
harmonize, like, with anything, and so it was more this, like, wow, you
know, we were both excited about sort of like the, the fun of it and . . .

es: it was a blast.

ar: yeah, it was just like fun, i mean, we did cover songs, you know?

ac: what was . . . what was 1985 in, like around athens like?  i mean . . .

es: exciting.

ar: yeah, i mean . . .

es: great music.

ac: you're talking, what?  rem, b-52s, vic chesnutt, you guys . . .

es: love tractor, barbecue killers, (something i can't make out)

ar: we were out of atlanta and we played in athens a lot and there was this
weird sort of . . . not a competition, but this thing with athens where it
was hard to get gigs there sometimes, you know.  so we had these . . . a
couple bands from athens, um, one band from athens called the squalls and
another friend's of ours called driving and crying, who let us open for
them, and that's how we got our foot in the door in athens  and then . . .

ac: that was around like [build a fire time], wasn't it?

es: (laughs)

ar: yeah, and we were just like, okay.  so . . . but athens was happening,
and we recorded a lot there, and you know, it's just like, totally fun
place to be.  it's still great, actually, the music scene there is still
really good.

ac: yeah.  fabled, now.

ar: yeah.
es: yeah.  right.

ac: um, the new album.  come on now social.  it's out, you just heard
"peace tonight."  you heard an acoustic version now, but the album's rockin'!

ar: (laughs)

es: yeah, well, on that song in particular, it's really different.  it
started out jangly and acoustic, and then we changed it in the studio,
slowed it down . . .

ac: horns.

es: horns.  three players from new orleans, just street kinda guy players .
. . i mean, they're great players, but that's the vibe, and john reynolds,
who co-produced the record with us, gave it this sort of old al green
backbeat or old motown-type feel . . .

ac: man.

es: and clare kenny plays a really simple but funky bass . . . (amy
sneezes) bass line on it so . . .

ac: and lots of guests on the rest of the album . . .

es: lots of guests.

ac: me'shell ndegeocello, joan osborne, sheryl crow . . .

es: yup.

ac: uh, your grandmother?

ar: (laughs) yeah, my grandma's right in there.  she's a riot grrl.

ac: (laughs)

ar: my grandma.

es: she rocks.

ac: are you all tuned up?

ar and es: yeah.

ac: are you all ready to go?  okay.

ar: yeah, i'm ready to go.

ac: oh, okay.  um, will you play another song off the album?

es: yeah, another acoustic version.  (strums a chord)

ac: okay, this is the indigo girls in studio c.  what's the name of the song?

ar: this is . . . this is "go."  this is . . . this is a very stripped-down
version.  (laughs)

ac: all right, this is channel 103.1 with the indigo girls.

ar: all right, here we go.  how does this . . . oh, okay.

("go")

(applause)
ac: channel 103.1 with the indigo girls in studio c.  (to emily) did you
get hurt on that?  (laughs)

ar: (laughs)  it hurt me, though!
es: (laughs) no, i broke a nail.

ac: it's called "go," and that's the first song . . .

es: yeah, it's really rocking.

ac: . . . on the new album come on now social.  i know you guys have to go,
because you probably have soundcheck and so forth, you're doing a show
tonight at the wiltern . . .

es: yup.
ar: yeah.

ac: also tomorrow night at the wiltern . . .

ar: yeah.
es: yes.

ac: go by all means, no pun intended.  (amy laughs)  um, it's, uh . . .
it's sure to be a good show.  i have to ask you this question, this one
thing i've always wondered about.  you've . . . it seems to me you've,
you've been true to, you know, a vision of trying to keep things pure and
do what you wanna do, but with all the sponsorship things going around, has
timex ever come around and said, "hey, can we do an indiglo girls tour?"

ar: (laughs)

es: not timex, but other companies.

ar: (laughing) we've had a lot of other companies though!

es: we just have a policy.  we just don't do it.  so, it's fine.

ac: good for you!

ar: we just say no.

es: once you know you're just not gonna do it, you just say no and it's no
big deal.

ar: we'll see how much they raise the . . . they'll keep raising the offer
and we just say no.  keep raising it, no.

ac: right!

es: coulda bought a new house, but nope!

ar: well, that's underpaying(?) us to not do it! (laughs)
es: (laughs)

ac: the new cd is called come on now social, go out and buy it, and go see
them tonight at the wiltern theatre, and . . . indigo girls.  thanks for
coming by studio c.

es: thanks a lot.

ar: yeah, it was fun.

battle on,
shanie
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date:         thu, 4 nov 1999 17:57:57 -0800
reply-to:     jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
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hey,

the low bid was $1000 on the alice auction for the studio d private
concert (they go up from there)... any of you bay area folks actually
bid that much??  i know it's for a great cause but...

wow.

~jean


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date:         thu, 4 nov 1999 21:25:07 -0500
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we're looking to get in touch with java solis regarding the recent honor the
earth fundraiser. java, if you're still here, drop us a note please! we
don't seem to have a working email address for you. and if she's not still
on this list, if anyone keeps in touch with her, could you please let her
know we at honor the earth need to speak with her regarding her prizes?
thanks and don't forget to visit the resource tables at these wonderful
concerts going on!!

kristen
honor the earth

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date:         thu, 4 nov 1999 20:09:58 -0700
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hi,
only a moment to do this. my mother was hospitalized and is in icu. what
the hell am i doing doing this? ah well.
actually someone else on the list got the stats - it is considerably
more expensive as a result of attorney fees (even for the incompetent
and unprepared lawyers that sometimes get assigned death penalty cases -
even though they may never have done any criminal law in their careers),
court costs and all that comes with it, blah blah blah, accomodating the
mechanics of execution, blah blah blah. basically it just adds up.

it doesn't matter either way to me, however. if it cost a dime to kill
them and a million to house them for life without parole, i'd still be
opposed to the death penalty. i'm accutely aware i'm in the minority. i
date: sun, 21 nov 1999 20:05:07 +0000
from: "l-soft list server at netspace.org (1.8d)" <listserv@netspace.org>
subject:      file: "indigo-girls log9911a"
to: underdog@earthlink.net

do not believe pouring out the blood of the mad and twisted - let alone
the blood of children and the mentally disabled - brings anything but
ruin on us as a people.

i am a minority in america in this, but is there another democracy that
executes it's own citizens for anything? south africa? i'm asking, i'm
not sure.

i despise the torment of matthew shepard and other innocents. i do not
believe their suffering is lessened or their deaths vindicated by
execution. others do.

kc

hicktruckdriver wrote:

> on tue, 2 nov 1999, kristen curry wrote:
>
> > i'm morally opposed to the death penalty for anyone, for
> > any reason, but from an exclusively practical point of
> > view execution is much more expensive than life-long
> > incarceration.
> > it's counter-intuitive, but it's the truth. killing for
> > social retribution costs more.
>
>    how do ya figure?
>
>    darius
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date:         thu, 4 nov 1999 23:23:26 est
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ok, well, i just had a recent mishap i thought i would share with y'all.

let me first explain my screen name:
iu stands for indiana university
doremi needs little explanation but they are the "words" put to the first
three notes of a major scale (think julie andrews in sound of music).
so i'm a singer and i went to indiana university.  got it?

i'm taking this year off to work and save money for grad school and am in the
process of filling out my grad school applications.

i was filling out one application tonight and they asked me where i went to
school.  i began to write...
i-n-d (simple enough, right?  i went to indiana university.  i know that!
that's the easy part of the application) -i-g-o

i didn't even pause until i looked down and noticed that instead of writing
the name of my alma mater, i wrote indigo.  i didn't even know how to respond
to my own temporary insanity :)  white out white out white
out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dear lord, i need sleep!!!  damn flu shot!
thanks for enjoying the moment with me...
carrie

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date:         thu, 4 nov 1999 23:31:35 -0500
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iudoremi@aol.com wrote:
>
> ok, well, i just had a recent mishap i thought i would share with y'all.
>
> let me first explain my screen name:

the first time i saw your screen name, i read it as:

iud oreo mi

an iud is the abbreviation for "intra-uterine device", which is a birth
control device, as you probably know.

it took me a few minutes before i realized that iu probably stood for
something else, but i did finally make the doremi connection.

weird, huh?  your explanation is much better than mine.

elaine

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date:         thu, 4 nov 1999 22:40:40 -0600
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can anyone send me a link to the site, or an addy? i'm tryin to tune in
now.  thanks.

barb

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in a message dated 99-11-04 23:38:06 est, efbean@erols.com writes:

<< iudoremi@aol.com wrote:
>
> ok, well, i just had a recent mishap i thought i would share with y'all.
>
> let me first explain my screen name:

the first time i saw your screen name, i read it as:

iud oreo mi

an iud is the abbreviation for "intra-uterine device", which is a birth
control device, as you probably know.

it took me a few minutes before i realized that iu probably stood for
something else, but i did finally make the doremi connection.

weird, huh?  your explanation is much better than mine.
  >>


hmmmm  my warped mind saw the screen name as i do u, u do me.......joan
thought so too      :)


indi


joan.......just checking to see if you were awake.......

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date:         thu, 4 nov 1999 23:58:21 est
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okay, it's (pretty much) official--the infamous bethany p. and shannon mast
(that's me) will be making a cameo :) at the dayton show on dec. 13 (i think
that's the right date, anyway...)!

yay!!

just so y'all know, i haven't seen our girls since dickenson!! serious ig
slump, but that's all about to change. is rose p. still confirmed to open
for them?  i'm so pumped about seeing her, too! i've only heard her studio
stuff, and that only thanks to the generosity of loop tape listees. :)

i'm so excited--beth called me yesterday and said she was picking up the
tickets, so i'm hoping they're good ones, even though we're getting them a
bit late.

so who else is going?

way too excited to sleep or to write the 2 articles i'm supposed to have
done for tomorrow's paper,

shannon
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so.....let me get this straight........toad the wet
sprocket is on now....and the girls come on at ten pm pst?  somebody
please contact me so i can get them  in time.   thanks.  i'll say no
more.

peace,

barb

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date:         thu, 4 nov 1999 22:35:56 -0700
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hi,

i have rose polezani's cd and sophie b. hawkin's "timbre" cd that i would
like to trade . . . i am open to trading for other cd's, boots, or anything
else that someone would like to offer.

gram

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that about says it right there!!  now  (don't mean to yell, just really
excited) that's  the
girls  i like.......peace tonight  and go are
wonderful on just their bare bones.  the songs don't need all the
trimmings they have on the cons version.  ilove the girls for their
harmony, to me it's what makes them the girls.

wooooooo wheeeeeee.

i'm going to go listen to see how my tape recording turned out, i know
it won't do them justice, because it's a small  device that records
background noise, but since this was a webcast i guess i can't complain.

peace tonight (accoustic version)

barb :-)

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sat, nov 13, 1999
burlington coffeehouse at rhombus gallery / arts space
featuring: barbara kessler / todd thibaud
burlington, vt
program: 186 college street 802-658-5061


mon, dec 6, 1999 (acoustic)
"listening room" concert series at fremont center theatre
featuring: mark humphries barbara kessler,michael mcnevin,bright blue
gorilla,paula joy welter
so. pasadena, ca


sat, jan 15, 2000 @ 7:30 (acoustic, alternative, american, contemporary,
folk, house concert, indie, original, rock)
fox run house concerts at fox run house concerts
featuring: barbara kessler / darryl purpose
sudbury, ma
program: reservations are required. contact laurie laba at 978-443-3253 or
lalcorn@ultranet.com.


lisa (something someone posted the other day reminded me of this quote)
"mr. caliguri said, 'in silence there is assent.' i didn't know what her
meant. i said nothing so agreed..." ~barbara kessler

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date:         fri, 5 nov 1999 06:11:29 -0700
reply-to:     carrie hamblen <chamblen@nmsu.edu>
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hi all,

i received a question about the time that world cafe airs today.
here's what you can do if you don't know the time or if your local public
radio station even airs world cafe.

if you don't know what your public radio station is, go to
www.npr.org and click on "your stations" and go from there.  a web page
may be at the other end but at least a phone number for you to call and
find out.

but, if you can't find any station that will be airing it, i just checked
the tape that recorded it here and it's great.  i'll be offering it as a
boot next week.  watch for the posting.

take care and have a good weekend

carrie

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unfortunately for me, there will be no night two. those going to the show
tomorrow ... have fun!

these are all the songs, but i'm not too sure about the order ...

go
trouble
get out the map
three hits
peace tonight
least complicated
cold beer and remote control
closer to fine
scooter boys
this train revised
ozilline
faye tucker
compromise
prince of darkness
kid fears
power of two
shame on you

(encore)
baby don't you break my heart slow (emily and vonda shepard)
gone again
galileo

some observations ... they changed the setlist to include "prince of
darkness" and "kid fears." the audience did not get into the first couple of
songs, which i think they were expecting. once they fell back on the
older songs, things picked up. (when i was walking to my car, i heard this
lady telling someone on her cell phone in disbelief, "they knew the words to
every song!" she must not hang around any diehard fans.) at one point, emily
said, "you're the friendliest audience we've had!" they seemed surprised by
the
enthusiasm. the floor of the balcony was shaking when everyone got up to
dance and sing along.

songs i would have liked to have heard ... "sister," "shed your skin" (that
song rocks live!), "johnny rotten," "neuvo senorita," "chiapas bound"...
i've never been to the wiltern theatre before, but the architecture is
amazing! it's a gorgeous wood-and-stone art deco design in greens and earth
tones. it looked like most of the loge and mezzanine seats were occupied.

haven't heard "this train revised" in a long time. it's definitely one of
amy's best. "scooter boys" isn't a favorite, but it's a kick to see live.
it's amy, fast and furious. "trouble" seemed better live too.

banter ... when they introduced the band, emily said claire (bass player)
slept through _blair witch project_ the night before ... some chick in the
orchestra section had a real loud, high-pitched scream. vonda pointed her
out during her set and asked her if the scream was spontaneous or if she had
to practice. later towards the end of the show, she screamed again, though
the crowd was kind of feisty by that time too. emily said it sounded like a
university of florida frat party ... when they were figuring out how to
change the setlist, amy said, "we sit down for dinner and make a setlist. it
takes me about an hour. emily could do it in five minutes ... i guess that
makes us a perfect democracy." i think it was amy who said that made the
band the house of representatives. that's actually a scary thought (...
imagine dana rorabacher on the stage singing, "and a girl could get a wife
... ")


vonda shepard was a good choice for an opening act. i'm not familiar with
her non-ally mcbeal original songs, but when she introduced one of her
songs, she stood up from her keyboard and did this funky dance. the last
l.a. show i went to, which was '94, i remember the audience being really
mean to the opening acts. big fish ensemble and kristin hersh each played
half-hour sets. the audience cheered rudely before the end of their sets to
encourage them to get off the stage. i was impressed with vonda. i loved
that glittery gold guitar she had too.

it was a rockin' show. i'm always ambivalent as to whether i like the
plugged-in shows with a band or the stripped-down duo shows better. i've
been to four shows now ... two band shows and two duo shows.  with the
exception that there were no unreleased songs/covers in the lineup, i think
this
is the best one.

april

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ok, so this is the best i casn do.  it is exciting when you are abroad and you have the tiniest (sp??) indigo moment.

tonight my friend and i were eating the closest thing that japan has to bagels near kyoto.  the coffeeshop was playing pretty good music.  anyway, this song came on, and i was like "wait?!  i know that song, but what is it?"  finally i realized it was dylan's "tangeled up in blue".  i got all excited and started singing along the way the girls sing.  it was quite entertaining, i'd imagine.

then, later at karaoke, since they have no ig songs (i'd die to see galileo or even c2f!), we sang "c2f" acapella.  it was funny.

ok, well i just thought i'd share pieces of my uneventful life...

:-) karen (who is still jealous of anyone who gets to go to a fall tour ig show...)

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subject:      new katie miller website and cd release party....
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friends,

my apologies to those who will receive multiple copies of this post, but
since your taste in music must be at least somewhat similar to mine, i hope
you'll forgive me.

one of my dearest friends is releasing her first cd next week after
suffering through a lengthy series of disappointments and real-life crises
that would have crushed the spirit of someone with less inner strength.

the cd, strongest girl in the world, and the cd release party at the
prestigious tralfamadore cafe are entirely self-conceived and self-financed.
please take a moment to check out her website at
http://angelfire.com/ny3/katiemiller if only to view the rendering of the
cool rainbow-colored lizard tattoo which graces her forearm and the cd
cover.  the page is somewhat slow to load due to the size of one of the
photos, but i'm working on a fix.

tickets to the cd release party are only $7.00 at www.ticketmaster.com
online.  i have some wonderful soundboard-quality boots of katie, myself,
and several other friends that i will make available to anyone who helps to
support her by purchasing a ticket.

a percentage of the proceeds from the cd sales will be donated to the
national lupus foundation, a deveastating illness which claims women
(including katie's life partner charlene) as its primary victims.

thanks for your help.

peace, love, and harmony,
tim

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hi!

did anyone get a good recording of this appearance?  i'm dying to hear
it :)

plmk,

jean


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everyone keeps talking about the ig dog tags.  these were not offered
in dallas.  i looked.
can someone give me the hook-up?
please?  i'll be your best friend!!


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i lost the link if someone could send me one i would appreciate it. i
heard the girls wil be on at 11:42 is that am or pm (not trying to yell
here), and would that be like pst, cst, est?

please contact me when you get this, i'm trying to tune in now to see if
i will get it.  thanks!!!

peace,

barb

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they're on today just after 3pm, est.

for web broadcast, check out:
http://xpn.org/sections/worldcafe/stream-announce.html

steph


barb asked:
> i lost the link if someone could send me one i would appreciate it. i
> heard the girls wil be on at 11:42 is that am or pm (not trying to yell
> here), and would that be like pst, cst, est?

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sorry to keep dragging this discussion out, but this is a great speech
matthew's father made about the death penalty.
carrie

(following are excerpts from the statement thursday by dennis shepard, the
father of matthew shepard, at the sentencing of aaron j. mckinney, who was
convicted of second-degree murder on wednesday in the death of the younger
shepard, as recorded by the albany county attorney's office in laramie,
wyo.)

matt became a symbol, some say a martyr, putting a boy-next-door face on
hate
crimes. that's fine with me. matt would be thrilled if his death would help
others; on the other hand, your agreement to life without parole has taken
yourself out of the spotlight and out of the public eye.

it means no drawn-out appeals process, chance of walking away free due to a
technicality, and no chance of a lighter sentence due to a "merciful" jury.
best of all, you won't be a symbol. no years of publicity, no chance of
commutation, no nothing -- just a miserable future and a more miserable
end.
it works for me. . . .

my son was taught to look at all sides of an issue before making a decision
or taking a stand. he learned this early when he helped campaign for
various
political candidates while in grade school and junior high. when he did
take
a stand, it was based on his best judgment. such a stand cost him his life
when he quietly let it be known that he was gay. he didn't advertise it,
but
he didn't back away from the issue either.

for that i'll always be proud of him. he showed me that he was a lot more
courageous than most people, including myself. matt knew that there were
dangers to being gay, but he accepted that and wanted to just get on with
his
life and his ambition of helping others.

matt's beating, hospitalization and funeral focused worldwide attention on
hate. good is coming out of evil. people have said, "enough is enough." .
. .

mr. mckinney, you made the world realize that a person's lifestyle is not a
reason for discrimination, intolerance, persecution and violence. this is
not
the 1920's, 30's and 40's of nazi germany.

my son died because of your ignorance and intolerance. i can't bring him
back. but i can do my best to see that this never, ever happens to another
person or another family again.

as i mentioned earlier, my son has become a symbol, a symbol against hate
and
people like you, a symbol for encouraging respect for individuality, for
appreciating that someone is different, for tolerance. i miss my son but am
proud to be able to say that he is my son. . . .


i would like nothing better than to see you die, mr. mckinney. however,
this
is the time to begin the healing process, to show mercy to someone who
refused to show any mercy, to use this as the first step in my own closure
about losing matt. . . .

mr. mckinney, i'm going to grant you life, as hard as it is for me to do
so,
because of matthew. every time you celebrate christmas, a birthday or the
fourth of july, remember that matthew isn't. every time that you wake up in
that prison cell, remember that you had the opportunity and the ability to
stop your actions that night. every time that you see your cell mate,
remember that you had a choice and now you are living that choice.

you robbed me of something very precious and i will never forgive you for
that. mr. mckinney, i give you life in the memory of one who no longer
lives.
may you have a long life and may you thank matthew every day for it.


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urgh!  alright, i tuned into the world cafe this morning on my local public
radio station, and, to my great disbelief, no girls!  instead they were
interviewing some blues guy?  hmm...what in the %#*! is going on here.....i
am soooo disappointed.  i cannot figure out why they weren't playing the show
that was advertised for today. has anybody else run into this same problem?
northeastern ohio sucks.

~amy s.

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i don't think this one has been sent around yet... if it has please
forgive me for repeating :).  there's a nice nod to emily at the end,
sort of vindictes her after that stupid "philosophy of loss" comment
that other reviewer made.

incidentally, there is also a full-page article about, and a great
picture of the butchies in this issue.  if you can't get the advocate
where you are, let me know, i'll type it up.  :)

~jean
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from: nov. 9th, 1999 issue of the advocate, pg 96, reproduced here
without permission:

feeling social
a more hook-minded cd from lilith fair faves indigo girls includes a
host of guest performers
by: dean buckley

considering that the indigo girls have eight albums under their belts,
one might know pretty well what to expect from their latest
effort--strong melodies, tight harmonies, and acoustic janglings with a
smattering of electric guitar.  amy ray and emily saliers will probably
again trade off lead vocals and songwriting; they'll alternate between
ray's husky canting and the light chirp of saliers, which keeps things
fresh and varied.  the duo's lyrics will invoke a strong appreciation
and simultaneous wariness of the south, and, like ani difranco, the two
will remind listeners of the power of folk music in passing along
tradition, honoring their forbears and questioning the status quo.

come on now social fulfils all expectations and throws a few twists in
as well, mostly by the grace of the guest musicians.  joan osborne
lends backing vocals on many tracks, including "go"; sheryl crow,
me'shell ndegeocello, and luscious jackson's drummer kate schellenback
all contribute their instruments or voices here and there.

moreover, longtime sinead o'connor collaborator john reynolds
coproduces the set and plays drums, providing more percussive color
than ray and saliers are accustomed to.  natacha atlas even adds her
middle eastern wailing to the otherwise celtic-flavored album closer,
"faye tucker."  their friends' touches prove that the duo is not as
predictable as we thought-and quite capable of new tricks.

still, one of the album's few truly satisfying moments comes when
saliers sings the hidden track "philosophy of loss," a plaintive
piano-and-guitar tune on one of her favorite topics, questioning
organized religion.  it's so beautiful one can't help but wish there
were more such plain, unadorned moments on the record.

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like, um, totally, like, you know?  it's like, well,
um

<ggg> cute interview, though! :o)

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gosh, karen (in japan), you must be so tired of celine dion there (that's
what they played *all* the time when i went to asia last christmas).

talking about that, my friends often say i'm the only asian they know
who's a big ig fan.  and i don't mean asian-americans who were born in the
u.s., but rather people who came to the u.s. a little later.  out of
curiosity, did anyone on this list grow up in asia?  and karen, have you
tried to introduce ig music to your friends in japan -- and how do they
usually receive it?

thx! vickie

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oh!! oh!!  i reeeeeaaally  hope that was just a local problem in
ohio....because i canceled plans for today so i can be home to tape the
show......think i'll try contacting the npr affiliate
in duluth and see who's listed for todays world cafe, maybe ohio was
airing a different broadcast because of some technical difficulty or
something.  but i hope that won't happen here.

peace,

barb

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an article regarding the still unsolved murder of anna mae aquash:

http://www.codaily.com/headlines/headline2.htm

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oh, i'm a tremendous screw up.  send me your snail mail again so i can
send you the tape i owe you, which is finally finished, and stuff for
indicated.

chris

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yep,  i guess someone made a mistake in the advertising. the world cafe
web site clearly lists that they are on, but i heard no mentin of the ig
anywhere.  does anyone know the specific hour the ig will be on, like
first hour, second hour?  i emailed world cafe to find out what's  going
on.

someone please contact me so i can catch them, maybe i'm wrong. i don't
want to waste
time, however, if they're not going to be on they won't be on iguess.
really bummed.

peace,

barb

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thought since this case set off a whole debate on the death panalty, some of
you might like to read this.  i think what matthew's poor family thinks is
more important than how we think the killers should be punished.

love,
julie


>
> (following are excerpts from the statement thursday by dennis shepard,
the
> father of matthew shepard, at the sentencing of aaron j. mckinney, who
was
> convicted of second-degree murder on wednesday in the death of the
younger
> shepard, as recorded by the albany county attorney's office in laramie,
> wyo.)
>
> matt became a symbol, some say a martyr, putting a boy-next-door face on
> hate
> crimes. that's fine with me. matt would be thrilled if his death would
help
> others; on the other hand, your agreement to life without parole has
taken
> yourself out of the spotlight and out of the public eye.
>
> it means no drawn-out appeals process, chance of walking away free due to
a
> technicality, and no chance of a lighter sentence due to a "merciful"
jury.
> best of all, you won't be a symbol. no years of publicity, no chance of
> commutation, no nothing -- just a miserable future and a more miserable
> end.
> it works for me. . . .
>
> my son was taught to look at all sides of an issue before making a
decision
> or taking a stand. he learned this early when he helped campaign for
> various
> political candidates while in grade school and junior high. when he did
> take
> a stand, it was based on his best judgment. such a stand cost him his
life
> when he quietly let it be known that he was gay. he didn't advertise it,
> but
> he didn't back away from the issue either.
>
> for that i'll always be proud of him. he showed me that he was a lot more
> courageous than most people, including myself. matt knew that there were
> dangers to being gay, but he accepted that and wanted to just get on with
> his
> life and his ambition of helping others.
>
> matt's beating, hospitalization and funeral focused worldwide attention
on
> hate. good is coming out of evil. people have said, "enough is enough." .
> . .
>
> mr. mckinney, you made the world realize that a person's lifestyle is not
a
> reason for discrimination, intolerance, persecution and violence. this is
> not
> the 1920's, 30's and 40's of nazi germany.
>
> my son died because of your ignorance and intolerance. i can't bring him
> back. but i can do my best to see that this never, ever happens to
another
> person or another family again.
>
> as i mentioned earlier, my son has become a symbol, a symbol against hate
> and
> people like you, a symbol for encouraging respect for individuality, for
> appreciating that someone is different, for tolerance. i miss my son but
am
> proud to be able to say that he is my son. . . .
>
>
> i would like nothing better than to see you die, mr. mckinney. however,
> this
> is the time to begin the healing process, to show mercy to someone who
> refused to show any mercy, to use this as the first step in my own
closure
> about losing matt. . . .
>
> mr. mckinney, i'm going to grant you life, as hard as it is for me to do
> so,
> because of matthew. every time you celebrate christmas, a birthday or the
> fourth of july, remember that matthew isn't. every time that you wake up
in
> that prison cell, remember that you had the opportunity and the ability
to
> stop your actions that night. every time that you see your cell mate,
> remember that you had a choice and now you are living that choice.
>
> you robbed me of something very precious and i will never forgive you for
> that. mr. mckinney, i give you life in the memory of one who no longer
> lives.
> may you have a long life and may you thank matthew every day for it.
>
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


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they're supposed to be on during the second hour.  the kumd server is full
and i can't hear it :-(
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okay, has anyone figured out what's going on with world cafe?  have they
been on kumd yet?  i thought they were supposed to be on in the second
hour, which is now, but it sure doesn't sound right.
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ok im confused.. there are two different stations that you can listen to on the website.. one from 3-6 and one from 2-4 eastern.. which one should i be listening to now? ahhh!! and these times zones are confusing!!
help
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hi everyone.

remember,

if you aren't able to figure out listening to world cafe on the web or on
your local public radio station, you *will* still be able to hear it.
just not as immediate.  i'll post either monday or tuesday my boot
offer so we can get the ball rolling on that. and you won't be indigo
deprived for long.

have a good weekend all,

take care

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okay, iknow this is getting to be a dead horse,
but has anyone been able to catch ig on kumd
webcast yet?  i've logged on off and on this afternoon since the second
hour and still have notcaught the girls.  i'm missing the very beginnng
of the interview.  were they on kumd
already? (for those who don't know kumd's a duluth station.)

barb

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>gop front-runner for president, george w.
>bush, about to roll out his foreign policy platform, was asked in a
>television interview to name the leaders of chechnya, taiwan, india,
>pakistan, all of which have been very prominent in the news lately. he
>managed to name one out of the four. in an attempt to turn the tables, bush
>then asked the interviewer to name the foreign minister of mexico. his
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>interviewer reminded him, "i'm not running for president."

hmmmm...and he might be running our country?

-alisa

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hmmmm...i'm wondering if this show isn't going to be aired on other stations
until later...because it's taped at the university of pennsylvania's station,
wxpn (which is my fave station of all time), and i just have a feeling it's
not simulcast.  i doubt they were there today for real and think it was taped
a lot earlier, but it may be worth checking out with your local station.

mis

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well, in all fairness to govenor bush (and believe me i'm not one to
defend him), nobody can know the answers to every foreign policy
question off the top of their heads.  that's why the president has
advisors.  there really isn't any reason for a governor to be
completely savvy on foreign politics.

and suprise pop-quizes on public television is bad journalism anyway.

now once they're elected it's a different story...

jean

--- alisa greenberg <agreenb1@swarthmore.edu> wrote:
> >gop front-runner for president, george w.
> >bush, about to roll out his foreign policy platform, was asked in a
> >television interview to name the leaders of chechnya, taiwan, india,
> >pakistan, all of which have been very prominent in the news lately.
> he
> >managed to name one out of the four. in an attempt to turn the
> tables, bush
> >then asked the interviewer to name the foreign minister of mexico.
> his
> >interviewer reminded him, "i'm not running for president."
>
> hmmmm...and he might be running our country?
>
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hello!

it seems i need to replace the strings on my guitar.  i've got acoustic,
art & lutherie six string that i don't play that often, but often enough
to break one.  <blush>  just call me amy.  (joking.  i sincerely suck.)  i
would like to be able to look for a particular brand when i go into the
music store.  those places always intimidate me for some reason, possibly
because i don't know what the hell i'm talking about.  ;)

thanks in advance. :)

kelly

obindigo: is it just me or does compromise sound very breeders-ish?  i
don't know, but everytime i listen to it, i always want to break out the
cd single i have for cannonball.  (ok, that wasn't very indigo-ish, but
i'm reaching!)

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%^  kelly fairbairn              %^
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do a search on metacrawler - just because it isn;t linked doen't mean it is
not on - the web...

http://www.its-ps.uni.edu:212/kucafe.html 10 - 12 central

there are others - just type in the state at the world cafe locator on the
world cafe main page and cross reference it with the mit list of radio
stations - one of the most comprehensive lists of american radio
websites....http://wmbr.mit.edu/stations/list.html

peace -
mike r.

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alright everyone i need your help i am looking for two tickets to the
denver show on the 19th. if any wonderful person out there could sell me
a ticket or two i would love them and name children after them. thanks
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a governor may not need to be savvy on foreign affairs but if he is running
to be the "leader of the free world" i would expect him to know who is doing
what around the world.

it scares the hell out of me that unless some miracle happens and people
come to their senses we are going to end up with this prick in the white
house.  you can kiss all the gay rights progress gained in the past 8 years
goodbye.

ryan

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>well, in all fairness to govenor bush (and believe me i'm not one to
>defend him), nobody can know the answers to every foreign policy
>question off the top of their heads.  that's why the president has
>advisors.  there really isn't any reason for a governor to be
>completely savvy on foreign politics.

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at 05:22 am 11/5/1999 -0800, april haitsuka wrote:

was nice meeting ya, april.  ;)  unfortunately i couldn't hear very well by
that time of the night so i wasn't a great conversationalist . . .

just going to steal some of your comments as springboards for my own, since
i'm still too euphoric to make a complete, coherent post from scratch . . .
hope you don't mind.

>some observations ... they changed the setlist to include "prince of
>darkness" and "kid fears."

i was pretty happy to hear those two myself.  emily's comment about "i'm
having one of those spastic days where i keep changing my mind about what
songs i wanna play" was cute.

>at one point, emily
>said, "you're the friendliest audience we've had!" they seemed surprised by
>the enthusiasm. the floor of the balcony was shaking when everyone got up to
>dance and sing along.

ayuh . . . now *that* was scary.  i wasn't sure if it was just my knees
going weird on me, or if the balcony was actually shaking!  once i figured
out that it *was* the balcony, it was just a matter of realizing that it
was shaking in time to the music before i calmed down.  ;)

i liked amy's theory about the smog.  she agreed with emily's assessment
about us being the friendliest l.a. audience they'd had, and said that
she'd noticed that smog was way down this year (which is true, and nice),
and that she figured it had to do with that.  she went on to say, "the smog
in atlanta is really bad this year, so we have all these problems with road
rage and stuff."

>banter ... when they introduced the band, emily said claire (bass player)
>slept through _blair witch project_ the night before ...

hmm.  i think it was amy who said that . . .
it was really cute how they introduced everyone but blair cunningham.  amy
said, "hmm.  i think that's everyone, isn't it?" just as the lights came up
on blair, who was sitting behind the drums pretending to look dejected.
she then, of course, proceeded to introduce him very nicely.

>when they were figuring out how to
>change the setlist, amy said, "we sit down for dinner and make a setlist. it
>takes me about an hour. emily could do it in five minutes ... i guess that
>makes us a perfect democracy." i think it was amy who said that made the
>band the house of representatives. that's actually a scary thought (...
>imagine dana rorabacher on the stage singing, "and a girl could get a wife
>... ")

oy!!!
i believe (but don't take my word for it) that it was emily who said "you
and i are a true democracy," and amy made the comment about the band being
the house of representatives.  emily quickly countered with "they're the
british parliament!"  either way, i"m still scared.  <g>

>vonda shepard was a good choice for an opening act. i'm not familiar with
>her non-ally mcbeal original songs, but when she introduced one of her
>songs, she stood up from her keyboard and did this funky dance. the last
>l.a. show i went to, which was '94, i remember the audience being really
>mean to the opening acts. big fish ensemble and kristin hersh each played
>half-hour sets. the audience cheered rudely before the end of their sets to
>encourage them to get off the stage. i was impressed with vonda. i loved
>that glittery gold guitar she had too.

yeah, vonda got a pretty good reception.  someone up behind me in the
balcony yelled, "i love you, vonda!" and she responded with something like,
"sir, if i really liked you too we would've sat down and had lunch
already."  emily came out (to the inevitable deafening cheers) to introduce
her, and said, "tell all your friends to get their butts outta the beer line!"

her setlist included "you and me," "mercy," "confetti," "cross to bear,"
"maryland," and "searching my soul."  might've been one or two more that i
can't remember.

on a side note: during "gone again," a couple of people sitting over to my
left screamed with abandon after every place-name.  ;)  aussies, perhaps?
or planning to take a trip there?  (cf. the 9:30 club boot)  i think they
also goofed a bit during "compromise."  it sounded like amy didn't come in
on the last chorus in time, so they ran through the chord progressions once
and then repeated, and sang the chorus.  can't be sure, though.  ;)

great show.  this was only my second time seeing amy and emily live, and
the first time i've ever seen them do a full concert.  (the first time was
at lilith '98.)  i do wish they'd done a few of the slower songs, though.
i would have loved to hear "andy" and "sister," to name a couple.  "kid
fears" and "prince of darkness" were about as slow as it got; even "power
of two" felt considerably jazzed up to me.  no real complaints, at any
rate.  well, except that i got laughed at for my shirt.  (so i'm a huge
gabrielle fan.)  ;)  can't wait to see what's in store for us tonight . . .

battle on,
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someone wanted to know about dog tags ... they were selling the dog tags
last night. the design is a rainbow flag and it says "indigo girls"
underneath. they cost $10.

april

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on fri, 5 nov 1999, ryan blackhawke wrote:

> a governor may not need to be savvy on foreign affairs but if he is running
> to be the "leader of the free world" i would expect him to know who is doing
> what around the world.

   yeah - it wasn't particularly difficult, either.  we're talking about
global hot spots that most anybody who picks up a newsweek for an hour
every week should be relatively familiar with.  i couldn't name the prime
minister of swaziland, and i don't expect the president could, either,
but...these are the places that earth shaking events are happening in.

> it scares the hell out of me that unless some miracle happens and people
> come to their senses we are going to end up with this prick in the white
> house.  you can kiss all the gay rights progress gained in the past 8 years
> goodbye.

   baby bush growed up real fast.  if buchanan hadn't defected, there
wouldn't be in chance in hell against a republican victory.  i've
considered donating time to the pat buchanan campaign to help draw the
religious right away from bush, much in the way that perot cut into bush's
constituency in '92.
   hell, why don't we all just vote for trump?  then there'll be a
rotating stable of first ladies, to make up for the fact that there's
never been a woman president, and you know he won't try to legislate
morality!

   darius

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i was so touched by all of the responses i received from everyone that i
actually cried
at my desk (just a little - nobody saw - i'm in a cube).

well, i did it.  i have my flight booked, hotel (days inn downtown) and my
tickets (both shows). however, i'm not quite sure the south is ready
for this little yankee. i'm so excited. if it hadn't been for all of you kind
friends and your words of encouragement, i probably would have lost my nerve.
i've never done anything like this and it "feels so funny to be free".

hopefully all of you who have e-mailed can stay in touch and we can hook up
since i will be by my onesies.

thanks again.

peace and happiness

cathy

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hey kind friends,

we are off to see the girls at the berkeley community theater tomorrow.
i am hoping for timely advice in how to
a) smuggle in a camcorder
b) smuggle in a not so small camera and lense
c) what type of recording equipment to boot the show

i know this sounds ambitious, but we've got a great posse of collaborators to
share in the burden.
i will be more then happy to share the fruits of our labor with any kind soul
out there who will advise me how to proceed....fyi we have third row seats,
amy side, so if i can learn how to pull this off in time, i will definitely
make it worth your trouble :)

please hurry, the concert is 8 p.m. california time.

hoping you all are closer to fine,
katherine

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date:         sat, 6 nov 1999 01:39:46 -0800
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well guys, here it is, the official setlist from tonight's show, since i
was lucky enough to get a photocopy of the list (in amy's handwriting!!!!!).

go
trouble
reunion (more on this in a bit)
least complicated
ozilline
andy
chickenman
cold beer and remote control (listed on the sheet as "cold beer and rude
waiters")
shed your skin
closer to fine
sister
peace tonight
tried to be true
power of two
faye tucker
virginia woolf
shame on you
or (with rose polenzani)
gone again
galileo

(amusing note: under blair cunningham's name in the instrument column of
the setlist, it says: "blair wich [sic] project percussion concept.")

random comments on songs that really stuck out:
amy goofed during "reunion."  i'm not sure exactly what happened--at first
i thought she'd broken a string--but she just started laughing and said, "i
am so, so sorry!" and they stopped the song.  she and emily stood around
laughing for a few seconds, composed themselves, and started over again
from the second verse.  we all cheered her on anyway.  ;)  emily did stop
laughing long enough to announce, "it's so liberating to fuck up!"  (that's
gonna go in a signature quote of mine somewhere or other.)

"andy."  i'm so glad she did this song, and it's the first time i've gotten
to see emily play the bouzouki live.  it sounded fantastic, and the
harmonies really fleshed out in live performance.

"chickenman."  no soc, but a killer solo from emily, and just one hell of a
rocker all around.

"shed your skin" was absolutely amazing.  i plead guilty to headbanging in
the aisle, until the staff made me go back to my seat, anyway.  emily's got
this great rocker groove going on when she gets into her solos.  very,
very, very cute.  *sigh*

"sister."  oh.  my.  gods.  'nuff said.

"faye tucker" was even more awesome tonight than last night.  i love the
way amy rasps out the last verse a second time, and caroline was just
jamming on that (really funky) cello!

perhaps the one greatest moment of "shame on you" was the audience
bellowing along with "i keep fucking up!"  gotta love venting.  took a load
off me.  ;)

"or" was great, except for the people cheering during the quiet parts.  no
screaming requests or anything, just cheering.

"gone again."  one big happy dancing audience.  same goes for "galileo."
a&e and the gang are en route to sf as we speak . . . safe journey to them
all.

i feel so profoundly moved by these last two nights.  just . . . i can't
even describe it coherently.  i'm working on a short reaction essay . . .
depending on how on-topic i remain, i may post it here.  if not, it'll go
up on my website and i'll put up the url.  ;)

and if anyone booted this, and/or last night . . . please let me know!!!

battle on,
shanie
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date:         sat, 6 nov 1999 02:22:31 pst
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>well, in all fairness to govenor bush (and believe me i'm not one to
>defend him), nobody can know the answers to every foreign policy
>question off the top of their heads.  that's why the president has
>advisors.
i would agree with you here, had the questions been nit picky details (like
what's the busiest street in iran); but we're talking about leaders of
countries that have been in the news.  that's not too much to ask for.
this reminds me of jay leno's little act where he would ask the "man on the
street" how many states there were and what not.

>there really isn't any reason for a governor to be
>completely savvy on foreign politics.

true, a *governor* doesn't have to be up on foreign politics, but a
*presidential candidate* should know leaders of foreign countries that have
been in the news lately.

>now once they're elected it's a different story...
if george w. bush becomes the president *shudder*  i would hope that he
would decide to study up on foreign affairs before stepping into office . .
. it's not like there's a "how to be u.s. president for dummies" book out
there . . . this is serious.  you can't cram for that job, ya gotta have
your shit together way in advance (and personally, i'd like to think that he
would know major world leaders names at least a year before stepping into
office . . . most students are required to know world leaders for their
government classes).

ya know, i really do have more to say other than nigc stuff about george w.
bush . . . maybe someday i'll actually share it on the ig list!  :)

peace y'all,
tay

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date:         sat, 6 nov 1999 07:17:59 pst
reply-to:     diane wong <arle@hotmail.com>
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i mistimed my stereo to start taping world cafe @4pm instead of 3pm
yesterday.  so, i missed the entire thing, but luckily, world cafe is
rebroadcasting the interview/music at 1pm est where i live.  transcript to
follow, if no one else takes up the task...

diane - still having a wonderful time.  i love wxpn!!!

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date:         sat, 6 nov 1999 10:26:52 est
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so, last weekend, i'm wandering around chicago, pretending not to be the
bumbling sw-burb-idiot i am.  a friend of mine was looking for an apartment
in the city, and needed help finding her way around.
when we were done for the day, and had walked up from the howard/red line
'subway', the words indigo girls appeared before my eyes.  in huge letters.
of course, had i been paying attention to the fall tour, i would have
realized that the girls are set to play at the chicago theatre in early
december.
but, i just was like, 'wow! indigo girls! i need a picture of this sign!"
it really is beautiful...sigh.
anyone know why the date was changed from the 4th to the 5th?
also hoping to catch michelle malone that weekend, but certain archaic
'drinking age laws' (feh) are trying to come between me and seeing michelle
play at a bar.  oy.

-mel-


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date:         sat, 6 nov 1999 07:25:18 -0800
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i am trying to win a pass to the private indigo girls concert that kmtt
is having on friday. i have been next to the radio since 5pm last night
with the phone in hand and am beginning to believe that no matter how
much i want to go to this, it's very probable that i will never be the
first or second caller. i wish i knew in advance that they wouldn't play
any ig stuff between midnight and 6am - i might have been able to get
some sleep.
this is breaking my heart & spirit. i know it's just a radio promo but
possibly they underestimate how badly some of us want to go.
i can't decide whether the auction for charity private show (in calif)
is better or worse. at least i would know there is no chance i could go
and not drive myself and my family nuts.

consarnit
paulal
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alright now i feel like an idiot. but i was really hurting that i wasn't
getting through to win tix to the private secret concert.
but i got through at 8:30 so i am going. i am such a mess. time to get
some sleep.

maybe a trivia quiz next time?

paulal

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date:         sun, 7 nov 1999 02:11:30 +0900
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hey,

i was wondering if anyone knew if the indigo girls plan to tour next spring?  also, does anyone know when they are playing australia???  i am going, and i hope i can catch a show!  :-)

thanks y'all!

:-) karen

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date:         sat, 6 nov 1999 12:46:59 est
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just another reminder that the deadline to sign up for the card exchange is
november 15th (just over a week away).  please consider signing up if you
haven't already and thanks to all that have =)  please do not hesitate to
email any questions or concerns about the card exchange to me at
erinsuepoo@aol.com.

to sign up:
email the following to erinsuepoo@aol.com

name
address
city, state, zip
email address

people outside the us are welcome...please remember to type your mailing
address as it should appear on the envelope =)

thank you much
erin sue

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date:         sat, 6 nov 1999 13:46:23 est
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well howdy.  long time no post.  here's a grand one.
(nigc but please read it? just so i can have some deluded sense of an
audience?)

have you people seen andy stochansky yet?  ohh my.  you really oughta.
i mean really.  it would make me so happy.  and it would make your little
behind shimmy all over the place.
and look!  now it's even easier for you to heed my advice!
just follow the directions below.

andy stochansky at the iron horse tonight, 11/6 - 9pm
call 1.800.the.tick for tickets, or just c'mon down!! (20 south st)
or
the met cafe in providence ri 11/7, as he joins the lovely, lively ms. erin
mckeown for a night of cd release madness.  more fun than you can shake a
minidisc at! (info at http://www.erinmckeown.com ).

a[ndy] + e[erin] = i[nsanely] g[ood].  just remember that.
remember you heard it here.

(i like concerts, sam i am.
i like them with a five-piece band.)
http://www.andystochansky.com for your every dreamtime fantasy

and because i live to make the digest folks scroll--
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
on the road again - "voices on the verge" shows
<><><><><><><><><><><><<><><><><><><><><>
(voices on the verge are 4 under-25 singer-songwriting chicas who each slay
me on an individual basis, and throw me into coronary arrest as an ensemble.
  would you like to experience the angina?  look below, and take special
note of that 11/20 somerville show.  it's gonna be a doozie. im sure i'll
post more on that later. run for cover.)

--and the shows! are so cheap! you'll beat your chests! like so many women
of troy! at the money you've saved! by dodging corporate music hegemony! and
digging indie folk instead!--

day/date: saturday, november 13, 1999
city: bryn mawr, pa
venue: the point, 880 west lancaster
venue phone: 610. 527.0988
time: 9:00pm
tickets: $7.00/610.527.0988

day/date: sunday, november 14, 1999
city: arlington, va
venue: iota, 2832 wilson blvd.
venue phone: 703.522.8340
time: 8:30pm
tickets: 703.522.8340

day/date: tuesday, november 16, 1999
city: boston, ma
venue: wers radio show 88.7fm
venue phone
time: 9:00am
radio show with voices on the verge

day/date: wednesday, november 17, 1999
city: providence, ri
venue: as220, 115 empire st
venue phone 401.831.9327
time: 9:00pm
tickets: 401.831.9327

day/date: thursday, november 18, 1999
city: northampton, ma
venue: iron horse, 20 center st,
venue phone (413) 586.2632 cathy
time: 7:00pm
tickets: 1-800-the-tick

day/date: saturday, november 20, 1999
city: somerville, ma
venue: somerville theater, davis square
venue phone (617) 628-3390
time: 7:00pm
tickets: 617.628.3390/$16.50 & 15.50
voices on the verge w/special guests lori mckenna, faith soloway, kris
delmhorst

day/date: sunday, november 21, 1999
city: new york, ny
venue: the living room, 84 stanton ave
venue phone (212) 533-7235
time: 10:00pm-12:00am


now that i have lovingly laid it all out for you,
go to a show.  for the love of pete wells.


i like the nightlife,
i like to boogie.
*j

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date:         sat, 6 nov 1999 13:52:31 est
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toshi,
ohh toshi,
thou grandiose
finger-licking
blues-funk-folk-jazz
electric wonder of a woman.
you are coming to my school!
and the heavens quake in our mighty state.

toshi reagon @ oberlin college
(oberlin, ohio-- 30 mins. west of cleveland)
monday 11/8, 10pm  $5 non-obies for such heart-shaking.
the 'sco (basement of wilder hall, student union)
dig around http://www.oberlin.edu for info,
or, that lacking, email me.

jill

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ok, fm one amateur to soon-to-be pro.....

a)  smuggling:  i have a little wallet holder which goes on your belt.  it
barely fits my recorder (& my mic goes into a pocket seperate).  i wear
this. and wear an overshirt over my tshirt, buttoning up the overshirt
loosly so it's not obvious i have it.  i havent got caught yet!

b)  camera:  the more shit you smuggle in the more obvious you become.  i
say, pick & choose.

c)  what equipment.  get a good recorder (whether it be tape or mini-disk,
or cdr) and get a great mic (stereo preferred).  dont forget to have a fresh
battery for the mic (as well as recording device) and check throughout eve
that it's taping.

also dont forget to measure when to flip tape or chg cd, if necessary.

remember, choose a location for the mic which will pick up the least non ig
banter, breathing, stomach growling etc.  plus, if you like to sing, know
that your virtuosity will drown out emily & amy.

taping is not too difficult, but it will affect how you enjoy the show.
plus, everyone out in ig land should appreciate the sacrifice made by
booters!  no singing along, plus one has to keep their mouth shut & limit
their dancing!

good luck, plus, jude h, i have a pkg of 3 tapes for you next week!

melissa


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> hey kind friends,
>
> we are off to see the girls at the berkeley community theater tomorrow.
> i am hoping for timely advice in how to
> a) smuggle in a camcorder
> b) smuggle in a not so small camera and lense
> c) what type of recording equipment to boot the show
>
> i know this sounds ambitious, but we've got a great posse of collaborators
to
> share in the burden.
> i will be more then happy to share the fruits of our labor with any kind
soul
> out there who will advise me how to proceed....fyi we have third row
seats,
> amy side, so if i can learn how to pull this off in time, i will
definitely
> make it worth your trouble :)
>
> please hurry, the concert is 8 p.m. california time.
>
> hoping you all are closer to fine,
> katherine
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date:         sat, 6 nov 1999 13:07:42 -0800
reply-to:     jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
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hi all,

i have the advocate's article on the butchies typed up.  if anyone
wants a copy emailed to them plmk.  i also have th really cute picture
scanned and can attach it.

~jean


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date:         sat, 6 nov 1999 13:28:08 -0800
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here's the short review from the l.a. times.  it strikes me as vaguely
ambiguous in tone, but i can't restrain this urge i've got to go and bite
the writer.  i mean really . . . i want to bite this guy.  he's kind of
condescending.

new songs gain richness as indigo girls turn up the power
los angeles times calendar section, 6 november 1999

pop music review

you might associate the indigo girls with heavy-handed lyrics, but it was
the heavy power chords played by emily saliers and amy ray to open their
first of two nights at the wiltern theatre on thursday that sent the
strongest message.  "go," which also opens the georgia duo's new "come on
now social" album, could well have been neil young with crazy horse, the
way the pair and their four-piece band churned.  and they hardly let up for
two hours.

of course, rockin' out can cover a multitude of sins.  but even the most
facile of the duo's character portraits gained richness from the energy,
with the new album's "ozilline," a tale of a rural female survivor,
particularly effective.  and isolating the older i'm-ok-you're-ok anthems
"least complicated," "closer to fine," and "the power of two" in three
separate acoustic slots watered down the daily-affirmation platitudes.

still, it was those literally least complicated songs that drew the most
enthusiasm from the loyalists, who sat during the dynamic new material but
stood to sing along on the folkie favorites.  fortunately, saliers and ray
were undaunted in their drive.

opener vonda shepard was in a rocking mood too, opting for what she called
her "non-'ally mcbeal' set" and investing her sometimes seductive textures
with more power than usually allowed on that tv gig.

-- steve hochman

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world cafe - inderay studios - recorded tuesday, 10/5/99, broadcast 11/5/99

host: <missing first part intro> "...and i am really happy to see her or my
son, uh, grow up to have such a really good sense of themselves; and more
importantly, a sense of where they fit into the world as these people do.
and, uh, it's really great to have them here and i just wanna than everybody
for coming.  let's get to it, and help me really warmly welcome the indigo
girls to the world cafe."
<applause>
["gone again" starts] emily saliers: "thank you."

[gone again]

(amy ray one-syllable laugh.)
e: "thanks y'all."
a&e: amy--"thank y'all--"  emily--"thank you."
a: thank you, still warming up.

h: let's ask the important questions first: is kakadu a place or a club?"
a: it's a place, it's australia, it's, it was where i was on tour down there
and having some  existentialist questions or something, i don't know,
walking around a lot, and meeting alot of different people, thinking about
whether or not i wanted to go home, back to the states or not, and so i
kinda wrote a song in the middle of the night.

h: that's a great song. you know, i sometimes i stereotype your songs, and
emily writes the sweeter songs and stuff, but that--uh--
<emily laughs.>
h: --a big mistake.  there's a lot that i can't tell on this album--it's so
great, y'all are really mixing it up, it's really wonderful.  now, if i
hadn't even read about it, i would have figured out that lilith fair had a
lot to do with this album, i mean, everybody who is on here you all met at
the lilith fair last year, but more importantly, i didn't know about, um,
you hung out with john reynolds who ended up producing this. now who is he
and how does this band, ghostland, all fit in here?

e: well, ghostland and other musicians were backing up sinead o'connor
at--at lilith last year, and of course, amy and i are huge sinead fans,  so,
initially we just went out to the side of the stage and were checking them
out and the band, they just was like, blew our minds--their  musicianship
and john has a studio in london in his flat and he said, you know, why don't
we'll just get together sometime and start working on some songs, so amy and
i made plans to do that and we did preproduction back in january for a week,
and the idea was to have john coproduce, like a few of the songs, and we
would bring in another producer in  to finish the record.  and when john
sent us the cd's of the stuff that he'd done in london with us, it was just
amazing, sonically. first of all, the impression, sonically, that it was
deep and rich and the rhythms were really in your face, and just really cool
stuff and great players.  and then, uh, when the other producer didn't work
out, so we just brought john back with us to finish the record, and he
brought his band.

h:  and there's all these, uh, neat grooves and loops that i guess he brings
to it, too--
a&e: yeah.
e: and he doesn't overdo it, though, which is a great thing--very tasteful.
a: yeah, he's a really, reallyl great producer.
h: now, there's one of the songs that you ended up doing in the states,
that's the one with the memphis feel to it, "peace tonight" is the one i'm
thinking of with the great memphis feel to it--
a&e: oh yeah.
h: it's a memphis feel, but the horn section is from new orleans?

e: yeah, well, that song, it started out the way i wrote it was really
jangly, and amy and i learned it together, and it was very acousticy and
really jangly, and it just, we got into the studio, and we recorded it live
that way, and we couldn't get the right feel for it, so um.  someone
suggested that we slow it down, and  then, but when john took over the helm
for that song, he suggested that we put the al green kind of straight
backbeat, straight up backbeat throughout the song.  and then,um,  three
guys from new orleans came, they are kinda like street musicians in a way, i
mean, they're professional and all that, they've just got that vibe that is
really down home new orleans.  and they got in the studio, and we just
tossed some ideas around and that's how peace tonight came to be the way it
is now.
h: great song, can you do the hornless version for us?
a: we're gonna do the jangly version.
e:  yeah it's, we're gonna do the jangly version. huh. alright.
a:  the rejected version.
e:  1, 2, 3, and--

[peace tonight--jangly/rejected version]

<applause> amy hoot.
e: thank you. a: thanks y'all.
e: thanks.
h:  great song from come on now social, the new indigo girls' album.  when
you named this, i understand it's from a song of yours, amy, you must have
expected folks to try to--you're gonna get questions about it.  <emily
laugh.> what is come on now soc--you know i've had people call me up and
tell me, it's a-uh toast, come on now social.
<amy laughs> --what is it about?
a:  it's a toast. um, it's kind of like finding your place in the world, and
how does the world find you, and how you find the world, and the
pressure--it's got two sides, 'cause i think the song that i wrote was
speaking more to the feeling um, unacceptable at a certain point in my life,
when i was becoming, going from a tomboy, into supposedly trying to become a
woman, and i couldn't figure  out how to do it.  and, uh, <laughs> never did
really, i guess-- <host laughs.>  and so, i was speaking of that a little
bit, and then, and then, in the broader sense of the word, the positive side
of it, of like, the activism in the world, and i think me and emily meant
more of trying to evoke our place in the world, sort of, didn't we?
e: yup.
a: yeah.
e:  i agree with everything you said.
h:  there's a lot of that on here, it opens with go which is such a strong
call to people, some great line about people, you know, you're not too
young, you're not too old, in this song.  this is really wonderful. i mean,
you guys are really a kind of lightning rod for a lot of people, you bring a
lot of issues to people's minds.  are people approaching you all the time
to, uh, take on new causes or things?
e: yeah. <audience member laugh> they do, but that's okay, actually, it's
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hard to find a lot of bands who go out there and are social activists. i
don't know why exactly, i mean it just seems like the marriage of music and
activism is just a beautiful marriage, um, so the bands and the people who
have been doing it forever and ever, people like bonnie raitt, and jackson
browne, and steve earle and a bunch of people.  i mean, we always call on
those guys, too, because we know that they'll say yes when we're doing a
benefit for a cause.  but for us, it just things we feel strongly about, and
believe in, and we just would like to provide information and as well as
educate ourselves with mentors and,  other people who are up on certain
issues and just, make it an arena, not only for music, but for a way for us
to heal the broken world.
h:  well, this song, go, seems more like, you know like, something about
you're not going to just sit back and listen to this, you're really gonna
get involved.
a&e: yeah.
e: everybody counts.
h: yeah. it's a great song, and it's a great opener. can you do that one?
e:  the acoustic version.
a: yeah.  <softer echo> acoustic version.

[go--acoustic version]
<applause>
e: thanks.
<audience member talking, inaudible>
a: thanks, y'all.
h:  indigo girls are live today on the world cafe.that's pretty good
considering you're both playing electrics on the track <a&e laugh> in the
album.
e:  yeah, i know, you want that sustained, come on--come on.
a:  well, it's an electric on that track, 12,000 million electric tracks,
feedback.
h:  if you head over to your website, you see an amazing tour that you guys
are on for the next few months.  this will play on the radio before a lot of
people will get a chance to see you.  tell people what your band is looking
like.
a:  they're looking great. they sound great, they look great, everything.
they're a beautiful band.
e(chiming in):  they're everything.
<host laughs.>
a: um, they're all new.  we have have this, we have this great  new bass
player named clare kenny, who um, was playing with sinead at the time. she
was with shakespeare's sister,  and tons--
e: and aztec's camera--
a: aztec's camera, she's played with tons of people--they're all british,
our whole band right now.  she is fantastic.  we have a woman who plays
keyboards, accordions, and percussion, carol isaacs.  and then a cello
player, who we're using currently is caroline lavell, who, um, i know of
from the early eighties when she played with siouxie and the banshees, but i
know she's done a lot of other stuff.  but if she's not there, then we have
another cellist, caroline dale, who um, is amazing.  she did the music for
hilary & jackie, if anybody saw that movie.

our drummer was john, but he's back home now, and so we 're using this guy,
who is from memphis but lives in england, and his name is blair cunningham
and he is just remarkable. i mean, he never even knew who we were three
weeks ago, and then, we had uh, like a week of rehearsals, and he had to
learn everything, you know, like in one week, all the stops--
h: he played with the pretenders for a while, didn't he? i think he did.

a: i think he might of.  he played with paul mccartney for a long time. for
the last few years, he was his main man.  so, it's a pretty full band, and
everybody sings which is cool, which is different for us. we have a lot of
background vocals, they all have really good voices, except blair <laugh>.
he won't sing for us yet.  so we have a lot-it's very rich.  we do a lot of
rock songs, and then we do some acoustic stuff, and bluegrassy kind of
stuff,  and  thenwe strip it down and play alone a few times, so it's a
variety show.
h: you've got this song called cold beer and remote control.  i want to know
about the person in this song, is the person is trying to escape from this
life,i think?  you're not celebrating this, are you?
e: no, it's about someone who is kind of despondent and just kind of given
up hope, and you just picture them just sitting in front of the t.v. just
wafting off into nothingness---the bad kind of nothingness, not the buddhist
kind.  it's got an electric kind of chorus, sort of a.k.a. tom petty-ish.
and uh. so it's kind of confusing, as soon as you hear the words "cold
beer", people laugh.  i don't know. it's just--it's mentally jerk your
string a little bit.
a: it's kind of like "born in the u.s.a.", you know.
e: yeah, yeah.
h: that's what i was thinking. people are gonna get this wrong, yeah, "hey,
cold beer--"
e: yeah, right.
a:  in that jackson browne song that used to do cocaine, "yeah, cocaine!"
and i was like, you guys don't get it.
e: another acoustic version.
a: oh yes.

[cold beer and remote control--acoustic version]

<applause>

e: thanks.
h: think of the merchandising opportunities.  cold beer and remote control.
a: <laugh> alright. if only.
h:  there's some wonderful musicians that you guys i guess got to know on
lilith fair on this: me'shell ndegeocello like really rocks out.
e: we love her.
h: she's such a great rock bassist, her new album is really like, this
really nice mellow and beautiful record.
a:  yeah, it is a beautiful record.
h:  did y'all take note while on lilith when you made the record, or did you
call folks up..
a: we've always--well, on lilith, we met, we did get to be friends with
me'shell through that,  and probably, kate schellenbach. and um, sheryl,
sheryl crow we knew before, and, uh, but, and joan osborne we had met  on
lilith, and then got to know her in cuba on a musicians' exchange program,
so...  they were all kind of lilith--the lilith set.  but me'shell and kate,
i just--i've always wanted to play with me'shell.  we are such big fans of
hers, and kate and kate, i had been jamming with anyway on some songs, and
that was one of them, compromise, and then the other one, emily's, we just
threw them in there.
h:  we've been hearing all things from come on now social, do you maybe want
to do something older to finish up with?
e: per your request.
h: oh, per my request, maybe.
a: we're gonna try this kind of ratty old song here.  you can turn this down
a little bit more, michelle.

[land of canaan]

<applause>
e:  thanks.
a: thanks y'all.
e: thank you.
a: thank you.
h:  thanks so much--
amy:  thanks again, you're such a great audience.
e:   yeah, we enjoyed it.
host: --to amy and emily. thanks to the indigo girls, thanks to our audience
down here at inderay studios. we shall return on the world cafe.
emily:  thank you.

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date:         sat, 6 nov 1999 17:57:54 -0500
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does anyone know if there's a website or some way to find out what your
local npr station is?  i've never listened to npr here, but would like
to know if they may be replaying the ig broadcast.

thanks,
sharon

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is anyone planning to have any kind of list get together in atlanta on
the night of either of the shows, the 16th or 17th?  please let me know
if there is anything planned yet.  =)

sharon

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does anyone have the exact address for the tower signing in sf on sunday?  if
you do, would you be so kind as to post or email me immediately?  we are
fixin' to leave for berekely in about an hour and i won't have access to a
computer once we leave.

thanks,
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ok someone mentioned the girls were on their way to sf from la...i thought
tomorrow was the tower records thing...did i fuck up and miss it??

on my way to berkeley and mel's for the listmeet
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below is the cons review on the 11/99 issue of illinois entertainer, one of
the most widely circulated monthly free publication on music in chicago. the
review gave cons a "7", which means "kicks my ass!" on their rating system,
even they got the title of the album wrong, and mixed up lyrics w/songs.
(makes me mad!!)  the same issue also review anybody by rose polenzani, also
gave it a "7", in which the names "indigo girls" and "amy ray" popped up.

indigo girls
come on social
(epic)
~jean iverson

come on social finds the socially conscious roots/folk act putting a fresh
spin on their already multi-textural sound. all the basic ingredients of an
indigo girls album lay the foundation for come on social. the harder-edged,
busier, darker songs penned and played by amy ray, like the twin-guitar
attack of "go, sister," (note: this is how the punctuation goes in the
article)  a stirring ballad in which a banjo somehow manages to provide a
haunting melody, are sometimes in stark contrast of partner emily saliers' gen
tler, softer style, as in "soon to be nothing" and "we are together." the two
styles meld together on "gone again," "ozilline," "cold beer and remote
control." and the first single "peace tonight."

friends from liltih fair (joan osborne, sheryl crow, sinead o'connor's band)
and other musicians ( kate schellenbach form luscious jackson, me'shell
ndegeocellom, the bands' rick danko and garth hudson, and arabic singer
natacha atlas) inject an endless stream of musical influences into come on
social. though ray and saliers are as political as hell, the issues they
attack are at times veiled beneath their obviously easy-going nature. it's
difficult to tell, for instance, if the girls are espousing or denouncing the
virtues - or lack thereof? - of living in anytown, u.s.a. in "cold beer and
remote control." (note: i thought the lyric came from we are together??) but
there's no room for interpretation on "trouble," a driving rock tune with
energized percussion and swirls of background vocals that slams the religious
right:"and when the clergy takes a vote.all the gays will pay again/'cause
there's more than one/kind of criminal white collar."

come on social is a fresh work of art that succeeds as a politically
inspiring and musically daring work, while at the same time proving that
collaborative events such as lilith fair work in more ways than one.

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hi folks,

please direct any replies to this to the original poster
at jindigo2@aol.com, not to me.

-sherlyn

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>date: thu, 4 nov 1999 22:01:15 est
>subject: illinois tickets
>
>hi all,
>i dunno if this will work or not but here goes:
>i've got 2 extra tickets for the indigo girls show on dec. 5th in chicago.
>the seats are like 30th row and are $35 each. if you're interested email me
>at jindigo2@aol.com
>thanks.
>
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hi there

any baltimore listeners out there trying to find the igs on world cafe????
>from looking at the wjhu website schedule it appears world cafe runs from
7-midnight and i thought the girls were in the second hour but moxy fruvous
is on!!     arghhhhhh        anyone know when/if the girls are on tonight???

indi

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now that i have discovered napster.com (lots of mp3s) i have had a chance to
check out all those bands i always wanted to listen to but couldn't afford.
and i have *discovered* ratm. :):):):):)  any other rage fans out there?
which cds would you recommend for a beginner eager to be converted? :)

thanks for your help,
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>-- steve hochman

this is the same guy who wrote the following about a show in 1989:

"but the bottom line monday was that the pair do not really have anything
new to say, nor any new way of saying it. which didn't stop the roxy crowd
from fawning at just about every vague anguish and insight offered. "

to his credit, he did get it right that the audience responded better to the
older material and that their live performance always enhances the songs. it
seems like he has some respect for the new songs, but the appeal of the
older material, which he clearly did not like, was what really defined this
show.

april

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hello hello
well i had a bizarre evening...it started out really shitty but turned around
quickly....i decided to take a nap before the show, which i shouldn't do...so
i missed the listmeet (sorry :( is there one tomorrow?) and i got there late
for rose who i was really looking forward to...so it cost me $10 to park -
yuk - and i finally made my way to the theater and rose was already on stage.
i really had to pee (bladder infection :(  yuk again) so i stood in the
mile-long line to pee...by the time i finally got to my seat rose was almost
done..i walked in in the middle of her singing omen. the she sang jesus loves
me like a bird and ended with a kick-ass version of olga's birthday (god i
love that woman!) so then i wandered out to the place where they were selling
stuff, since i wanted to have rose sign my cd and she had said she would be
out there...well i couldn't find rose so i kept wandering around and i came
upon this small group of people, some who had backstage passes....(this is
where my luck turns good) so there's a guy there saying something about
giving these people passes to have signed...hmmm...so i kinda hang with them
and then he leads us all (about 8 people) backstage!!! so i'm really nervous
thinking that any moment i'm just gonna get kicked out...well the guy who was
in charge of this was talking to two other girls who worked for tower in
sacramento and said he knew everyone's name but mine..so i'm thinking, ok
here we go, i'm gonna get nailed...well i said i was lisa...and this guy was
kinda not paying attention and someone else asked me how i had gotten back
there and i admitted that i had sorta just sneaked in...then this girl comes
up from downstairs - the dressing rooms, i assume - and says that amy and
emily  will be out for in a few minutes - only for a minute or two cause
their set starts in 15 minutes...so then i started talking to the two girls
from sac and they didn't seem bothered that i had snuck back there so i was
starting to relax...i figured i'd just beg to stay if anyone said i had to
go..but no one did...so the girl comes up again from downstairs and says
they'll be right up and apologizes (!) that it is taking so long...well a few
minutes later up come the girls both looking stunning...i've only met them
once before and i had forgotten how short they are :) also, they had passed
out b&w photos to us all for them to sign - it was very cool...so emily came
up and i shook her hand (she looked terrific - she had purple glitter on her
eyelids :) and she wore a red button-down shirt and black pants) and i said
"hi emily, i'm lisa" and she said hi and took the picture from me and wrote
my name and then signed it "emily" with a little heart. i told her i had met
her once before at an hte show. she said something like "oh good" and i asked
if they were planning on doing another one next year and she said they were
or they were hoping to..also, i had gotten to of the b&w pics cause they had
extras and emily noticed and asked if i wanted the other one signed for
someone else and i said "oh no" and she smiled and said "that's very selfless
of you" it was cute...then amy came came up - looked soooooooooooo gorgeous
with her blondish hair and cute little butt in her tight pants :) :) she
looked gorgeous (did i already mention that??) so i told her too that i had
met her once and she drew a little guitar on the picture and signed it. then
i told her i wanted to thank her for introducing me to rose and said that she
was wonderful. amy seemed really happy and said "oh she's great isn't she?"
and i said "yeah i love her" and she thanked me for listening to her..it was
so cool.... :) so they girl next to me told amy she liked the new cd and amy
said thank you and that they were going to be playing some new songs from
it..then they were talking to the two tower girls, who i think were
sisters...amy asked something like were they coming tomorrow to the second
berkeley show and the girls said they didn't have tickets and amy said "oh we
can get you tickets" it was neat...so then they had to go but it was very
cool :) :) anyway....setlist:
go
trouble
reunion (!!!! my favorite song!!!)
get out the map
scooter boys
peace tonight
sister
least complicated
compromise
virgina woolf
ozilline
closer to fine
faye tucker
cold beer and a full house :)
johnny rotten (a ? was on the setlist)
power of two
shame on you
encore:
or w/ rose
gone again
galileo

they seemed very happy to be there in berkeley and the sf area....they said
they felt comfortable there.  they talked about crossword puzzles again and
asked if anyone did them - someone said yes and emily said "the new york
times? by yourself?" then they were saying how they had been stumped on a
couple but they had gotten phyllis wheatley so they were proud of themselves
for that...lots of singing and dancing from the crowd and i didn't hear
anyone yell galileo but before gone again amy said "and i promise we're gonna
play galileo"

anyway, then i got a guitar pic and a setlist from sulli :) then i finally
found rose out front at the merch table and had her sign my cd (her first one
and she seemed psyched that i had it) she's playing in sf on wednesday so i
gotta scrounge some money for that...

so i had a good time tonight :) :) i taped the show too but i haven't
finished listening to it yet..it sounded a little fast and chipmunky in the
car on the way home but it sounds better on my stereo here so i'll have to
clean it up a bit..maybe someone else has a better copy on dat or minidisk.

peace :) lisa

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this is completely nigc, so i'll keep it short.  sorry.

i got the new ani cd (to the teeth) today!  it was released in japan already.  i like it, but i must say, i am very partial to her older stuff.

anyway, i just thought i'd share...

:-) karen

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hi everyone!

thanks for the great reviews of the shows coming in!  we really appreciate
it on the news list!  i was just checking to see if anyone got world cafe
or any of the other recent radio appearances on tape.  i would like to get
some of the acoustic versions of cons songs.  i have a bunch to trade.
e-mail me for my list and we'll get a trade rolling.  i'm also looking for
good quality boots from cons shows.

take care all!!!

see you at the december shows!
rob

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hey all!

woohoo it's finally our turn!  i had a wonderful night last night...
i'll spare you the setlist since lisa already posted that fo ya, but
here are my thoughts:

first, i met amy and jennifer from the list... hello ladies!  i found
jennifer because she had given me her seat numbers and told me she'd be
wearing a green shirt.  :)  oh, and i had actually seen you guy at
mel's but wasn't sure so i chickened out and ate with my non- list
friends.  shoulda been braver... oh well.  nice to meet you!  :)

somewhere about the 4th or 5th rockin' song in a row i thought to
myself "you know what?  these girls rock!"  it was the first ig concert
i'd been to that had made me think that.  of course i have always left
their concerts feeling happy and psyched up and such, but i usually
leave with a warm fuzzy feeling rather than a blown away by the
electric guitars feeling (if that makes sense).  anyway, it gave me a
whole new resepct for these women and boy can they put on a show.

their new drummer is great!  amy kept checking with him throughout the
show, like they had this dialogue-without-words going on through the
whole thing.  and at the end of reunion (i think it was reunion) he was
hopping out of his seat and amy was doing this "right on!" gesture and
nodding... so i guess he got something right that he had been
struggling with <g>.  it was very cute.

johnny rotten blew me away and amy was huffing and puffing when she
finished.  wow.

the crossword puzzle thing that lisa mentioned was funny... and they
also asked about a clue they coulnd't get... a beatles song... amy said
"it's 4 letters, and then your name."  and a bunch of folks shouted out
"i call" and amy got this look like duh!! and emily laughed.  another
human moment, i love it.

amy and emily kept telling us how wonderful we were and how happy and
at ease they felt.  also, no one yelled galileo, or anything else for
that matter.  the quiet parts were quiet and the loud parts were
loud... great crowd!

ok i have to say a word about rose.  this was the first time i had
heard her stuff, and i am afraid to say that i didn't like her that
much.  her airy voice turned me off bigtime (because she didn't sing
that way, so why did she have to talk that way?)... and to me, all her
songs except the last one sounded the same and were very challenging on
the listener because they all had the same tempo and the same low-key
energy.  so i wasn' that impresed with rose.  didn't hate her, i can
see potential, but didn't love her either.  throw rotten tomatoes if
you must ;)

anyway it was great!  and i'm going back tonight which is also great!
i'll let you know how it goes.

-they did an acapella ending to trouble that blew me away despite how
short it was...

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paula,
i too have been by the radio with phone in hand!  it makes me mad that they
give people a heads up though and tell them to call instead of just letting
them realize, "hey it's ig now call."  it would just kinda make it so their
fans and actual followers of their music would have a better chance of
winning ya know.  :(  i have been bummed about this all weekend!  if anyone
on this list happens to win a set of tix to this private performance let us
know will ya's?  it will make me feel better at least to know that some of
ya's get to attend.  maybe you could boot it for us not so lucky ones!!
take care
tina

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ok i thought this was very interesting.....it reminded me of amy's comments
on the religious right and their opposition to faye tucker's death...it was
forwarded to a gay atheist digest that i just subscribed to...
_________________________________________________
wyoming tribune eagle, november 5, 1999
702 w. lincolnway, cheyenne, wy, 82001
(fax 307-778-7163 ) (e-mail: opinions@wyomingnews.com )
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dennis shepard angered at religious community
by paula glover.

laramie -

an anguished father's cry of betrayal has left many in the
religious community puzzled, as the saga of the aaron mckinney murder
trial ended suddenly thursday morning.

in a prepared statement, dennis shepard, the father of murder victim
matthew shepard, lashed out against the religious community and the
catholic church in particular, saying he did not agree to stop the
penalty phase "because of the crass and unwarranted pressures put
on by the religious community (against the death penalty)."

addressing mckinney in the courtroom, mr. shepard said, "if anything,
that hardens my resolve to see you die."

in the angriest portion of a six-page typewritten prepared statement,
mr. shepard attacked the catholic church. "i find it intolerable that the
priests of the catholic church and the newman center (of laramie) would
attempt to influence the jury, the prosecution and the outcome of this
trial by their castigation and persecution of mr. rerucha and his family
in his private life, by their newspaper advertisements and by their
presence in the courtroom," shepard said.

mr. shepard and cal rerucha, albany county prosecutor, refused
additional comment following a news conference thursday morning.
the rev. carl gallinger, associate pastor of the st. paul's newman
center, said he was puzzled by shepard's anger. "i'm uncertain why
questions on the death penalty would be considered as political,
when it is a moral question," gallinger said. gallinger acknowledged
he sent a letter to rerucha, himself a catholic, stating gallinger's
personal opposition to the death penalty and asking for a plea bargain.

"i went to him as a citizen," gallinger said. "i believed the community
should have been spared the pain of a murder trial."

gallinger sat with the family of aaron mckinney two times during the
course of the trial, saying "the challenge of the gospel is to have one
arm around the victim's family and one around the accused." the official
teachings of the roman catholic church oppose the death penalty, and a
statement issued this spring by the national conference of catholic
bishops calls for "people of goodwill, and especially catholics, to work
to end the death penalty.

"increasing reliance on the death penalty diminishes all of us and is
a sign of growing disrespect for human life," the conference's statement
continues. opposition to the death penalty heated up in september, with
the formation of the wyoming coalition to abolish the death penalty.
the coalition held a protest against the death penalty at noon
thursday outside the albany county courthouse, following the sentence
agreement announcement. "we want to emphasize how fickle and arbitrary the
death penalty is in america," said organizer bern haggerty.

"this is a bittersweet victory, avoiding the possibility of a violent
end (for mckinney,)" said bill dobbs, with queer watch, a new york-based
group that advocates for gay rights and is against the death penalty, even in
the matthew shepard death. "in this case, i believe the death penalty was used
as a battering ram to get two consecutive life sentences and to eliminate
appeals," he said.

gallinger said advertisements against the death penalty were printed
in several wyoming newspapers prior to the earlier henderson trial and the
mckinney trial. the ads were supported by the newman center, but were
signed by 48 individuals from many churches around the state, along with the
society of friends and the wyoming church coalition. the newman center was the
scene of a tearful candlelight vigil last year while matthew shepard struggled
for life in a fort collins, colo., hospital, recalled the very rev. lawrence
s. perry of st. matthew's episcopal cathedral in laramie.

perry, who signed the advertisements, said "it is unfortunate" that
dennis shepard was upset by the religious stance on the death penalty. "i
can understand his pain and desire to see mckinney sentenced to death," the
former law enforcement officer said. "the fact is, the justice system is
not infallible, and innocent people are sentenced to death. i had to
re-evaluate where i stand in regards to the death penalty." he was clear
that he opposed the death penalty in general, not just in the mckinney case.

the rev. makanah morriss, of the unitarian universalist church of
cheyenne, said she and her husband, co-minister bob morriss, signed as
ministers, but also out of their own personal sense of calling. "our
belief is that killing is wrong, whether it is in a criminal situation, or
if it is the state," she said. "we in the ministry are often asked to speak
for our deepest sense of calling and ask others to reflect on that."

the rev. thomas cronkelton, rector of st. paul's catholic church in
pine bluffs, said he would speak out on moral issues both as a catholic
priest and as a citizen. "as a catholic priest, and a person of religious
faith and conviction, i have an obligation to the members of my congregation
to
assist them in the teachings and tenants of the faith," he said.
"as a citizen, i have a civil right and obligation to share my personal
political beliefs and to convince others of my political views. "just
because i am a person of religious faith and conviction does not deprive
me of the right to express my political views, even when the views are
based on faith and conviction," he added.
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lisa (drinking lots of coffee to stay awake and get to the ig show early
tonight....)
"tonight's the night for ufo's..christian music on the radio. the headlights
off and the stars hand low. carolina.  tonight's the nght for ufo's...you
don't believe me yes, i know. they'd probably just turn and go. carolina"
~barbara kessler

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hey, what kind of private performance are ig doing and what's the deal with
winning them on the radio?  where is that show?
i didn't quite get what you were saying about why you were mad at the radio
station, but i called in once to win tix to an ig concert and was the 14th
caller and actually won.  however, when i went to pick up my tickets, they were
worse seats than the ones i already had bought!  so i wasn't very happy about
that...i thought radio stations usually gave away good seats....oh well...i
know now not to bother trying! :-)
peace,
sharon

tina crawford wrote:

> paula,
> i too have been by the radio with phone in hand!  it makes me mad that they
> give people a heads up though and tell them to call instead of just letting
> them realize, "hey it's ig now call."  it would just kinda make it so their
> fans and actual followers of their music would have a better chance of
> winning ya know.  :(  i have been bummed about this all weekend!  if anyone
> on this list happens to win a set of tix to this private performance let us
> know will ya's?  it will make me feel better at least to know that some of
> ya's get to attend.  maybe you could boot it for us not so lucky ones!!
> take care
> tina
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just a short response to jean's comments on rose...i think rose is an
acquired taste..it took me a couple listens of anybody to start to get it.
plus i saw her in berkeley a couple months ago in someone's living room - and
she totally blew me away. to be that close to her with such an intimate
setting was very cool.  she does do some covers too (usually a capella) where
she sings really loud and sounds great... a lot of her songs are very slow
and haunting so i can see how you can think they all sound they same. anyway,
i like her a lot :) she's really grown on me..
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oh my, could we really do that? i agree there isnt anyone
running that i would vote for. i had thought about mrs. dole
until i heard her say on the nbc morning show that she wanted to
cut funding for the arts...sheesh...has she lost her mind? and
she wonders why she couldn't raise money for her
campagn....hmmmm lets see arts=money=funding hmmmmmmmm who would
have known people wouldnt want to give you money for your
campaign if you are planning to cut out money for work....any
way...why not write in miss amy. i think it would do wonders if
oh say how many of us are there 800 or so? lets see if you tell
two people to do it and they tel two people to do it and at
least 1/3 actually do then can you imagine the message that
would give to the world? i think it might be a wonderful wake up
call for politics if that many people decided to vote for
someone they believed in instead of some puffed up stuffed shirt
or empty headed idiot. sorry but this years elections are going
to be a sorry excuse for a presidential race. what do you all
think can we do it?


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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the newsgroup...

-sherlyn

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subject: guardian & q reviews of cons
date: sat, 6 nov 1999 11:46:18 -0000

the guardian:

three stars (= "enjoyable")

"the dour georgian folkstresses have jazzed up this lp with appearances by
sheryl crow, me'shell ndegeocello and world-music siren natacha atlas, who
add verve to emily saliers's and amy ray's sombre, politicised treatises.
crow reverts to her southern twang on the country-bluesy cold beer and
remote control and atlas is a ghostly, reeling presence on faye tucker, a
eulogy to the murderer executed in texas last year. the indigos themselves
offer the usual commitment, sweet harmonies and a lack of commercial nous
that you'll either love or hate."


q magazine:

3 stars (= "good. not for everyone, but fine within its field)

"amy ray and emily saliers have beens scribing wordy, wry, quirky little
vignettes about relationships love and loss for nigh on a decade now, and
their seventh album inds the duo mining this productive seam once again.
they're on good form.  gone again,peace tonight, and we are together are
rich in detail and songwriting suss, and their lengthy list of guests
include  sheryl crow, joan osborne, me-shell ndegeocello, natacha atlas and
luscious jackson's kate shellenbach.  it's a skilful outing, but at this
stage one which is unlikely to attract any new devotees."

oddly enough, i looked up two other reviews for bands in this months
issue -- live and matthew sweet, and they all gave exactly the same rating
and followed the same format: a really good review, followed by the
punchline "unlikely to win them any new fans".  must all use the same
template, and stick their names on the end.

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date:         sun, 7 nov 1999 15:37:49 -0800
reply-to:     beccie lyon <dovesland@yahoo.com>
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from:         beccie lyon <dovesland@yahoo.com>
subject:      re: ozziline and paganism
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my $.02 worth

the older generations of folk follow the moon for everything
from planting crops to marrying and child bearing, the symbolism
is of the older southern traditions that mix both religious and
earth appreciation.  i think that in respect for this wonderful
life she has watched turning into the "crone" aspect (in maiden
mother crone talk guys) it is a wonderful way to express how
lovingly heartfelt her respect is for her grandmother's life.


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beccie lyon

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date:         sun, 7 nov 1999 15:56:56 -0800
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subject:      boots, bike trek where i have been etc.
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ola!


hey all, if i owe anyone boots please email me sheryl and
michael yours are going out this week. any one else drop me a
line. i have had a wonderful week, she said sarcastically as she
rolled her eyes in amusment,  i lost my new job, after some
wonderful person outed me and suddenly i was not open to
learning....oh well their loss not mine. i am working got a spot
working for mda, and i am enjoying it. but since the moeny is
less and other financial stresses i have lost my phone for the
moment and am in the process of tugging once again at my well
worn boot straps. i am trugging through though and am wokring on
the bike trek project.  i still need someone in altlanta who
might be able to help with the end of the trek arrangements.
anyone interested please contact eirther myself or nancy. also i
have an interesting idea for someone in new york who likes to
get up early and wouldnt mind being on tv. any takers email me.
oh well got to run i am at a freinds house doing laundry and
trying to empty my inbox. whooo 326 messages in indigo girls
stuff alone...wow....you guys have been most talkative this
week. any hoo got to run take care and much love you you all.


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beccie lyon

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