lifeblood: listlogs: 1999-11b


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date:         sun, 7 nov 1999 19:32:16 -0500
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subject:      re: baby bush  igc content!!!
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on sun, 7 nov 1999, beccie lyon wrote:

> i think it would do wonders if oh say how many of us are there 800 or
> so? lets see if you tell two people to do it and they tel two people to
> do it and at least 1/3 actually do then can you imagine the message that
> would give to the world? i think it might be a wonderful wake up
> call for politics if that many people decided to vote for
> someone they believed in instead of some puffed up stuffed shirt
> or empty headed idiot.

   let's say 1000 of us decided to write in a candidate.  now let's say
that we all told 4 people to do it, and they told 4 people to do it.  that
would be 1000 + 4000 + 16000, or 21,000.
   now, let's say that only people in nyc could vote.  in the tri-state
area, there are about 20 million people.  only 40% of people who can vote
do, so that makes it about 8,000,000.  so, you'd have about a quarter of a
percent.  that's not exactly a majority.

   now, do you feel marginalized?  that's what you have to work with.  i
highly suggest voting for the least bad apple.  yes, it's a bitch,
especially if you're politically active and feel like you want to
make a difference.  no, i don't like it.

   nobody's going to make everybody completely happy.  i think everybody
in the running is currently a complete idiot with regard to fiscal
matters, 'cept maybe trump, because he's, well...a businessman.

   have you ever stopped to think why bill clinton moved right way back
in '92, when he was actually decently not minded by the liberal wing?  was
it because he was chicken shit, or because he had a sudden value
shift?  (hah, as if b. c. had any values to speak of...)  no -- it was
because the sweeping approval he'd get from moderates likely to go either
way was far more beneficial to his campaign than cozying up to the liberal
camp.

   different angle: in '92, george bush and ross perot had pretty similar
social ideas.  (abortion was a key difference...gotta love admiral
stockdale...)  however, perot played to the pragmatic middle-right, the
voters who lean right but could go either way.  moderates are a large
majority of the country, even though fringe groups make more noise.  bush
lost to clinton partially because perot helped erode his power base,
leaving him with only the right-wing.

   remember this -- you'll do far better to work within the system, get
the least bad person elected, and then bombard them with your
opinions.  if you try writing in people, no matter how well they might
serve your country if they got elected, you're only hurting those whose
beliefs are fairly similar to yours, to the benefit of your enemies.

   counterintuitive, eh?  screw war, politics is hell.

   darius

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date:         sun, 7 nov 1999 16:37:58 -0800
reply-to:     shannon curnutte <shannonc@oregon.uoregon.edu>
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subject:      pdx listmeet
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three days left until the portland show! looks like  the best idea for a
listmeet is at cucina cucina! across the street from the rose garden...
let's meet around 6:00, and we can all have dinner... i'll write again
and say what i'll be wearing, etc...

shannon
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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 14:18:13 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the news-only list.  please direct
your replies to the original sender at
harley@ladyclergy.com, not to me...

-sherlyn

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>date: sun, 07 nov 1999 18:54:50 -0800
>from: harley <harley@ladyclergy.com>
>subject: [ig-news] ig in seattle
>
>hey ig fans,
>i have two tickets for the show this wed. @ portland's rose garden.
>seats are row 6.
>cost is face value $35.
>email me if you are interested.
>-harley
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date:         sun, 7 nov 1999 22:35:21 -0800
reply-to:     laura jackson <laurajackson@mindspring.com>
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subject:      wed's portland show!!
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it looks like we have two extra tickets to the november 10th show here in
portland. apparently there was a miscommunication and some friends we bought
tickets for, bought some of their own. right now, i'm not completely sure
what the specific seats are. we aren't on the floor, but the first section
above the floor on the amy side! my friend is currently holding the tix and
i'm waiting to hear back from her for the specifics. they aren't front row
or anything, but i can promise that you'd be sitting near some real fun
folks (us!). we only want to get face value for the tix which i believe is
$35 each. i know the show isn't sold out, but these would be better than
most of what i'm sure is currently available. if you or someone you know
might be interested, please email me, and we'll work out hooking up to get
the tix to ya!

peace y'all,  laura

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 01:45:37 est
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subject:      san diego and l.a. concerts
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san diego on oct 31 was the best they have played.  the sound was perfect,
and i was in the 3rd row centre, watching every move of emily's wonderful
fingers and the expressiveness on amy's face for sister, ozilline, etc.  more
later if anyone wants set lists or info on that or the l.a. show nov. 4...
vesper

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 09:43:46 est
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i attended the 2nd indigo girls show in

los angeles at the wiltern theatre.


someone from phoenix posted that amy and emily

were worried that the l.a. crowds wouldn't be happy

to see them.  amy thanked us several times for

being on our feet, singing along and being a "party"

crowd as emily put it.


amy did something during this show i've never seen

her do.  on "reunion" (a song she wrote), amy blew

a song lyric. she repeated "i've got nothing to hide"

at the wrong moment and stopped singing.  after

she and emily found their place, they picked up the

song again.  amy apologised and we cheered her on.

i've never seen amy's face look so red.


fashion report: amy's hair is a bit longer than on the

cons artwork and she wore a dark blue (indigo?) t-shirt,

light blue jeans and a light blue work shirt over it. emily

was wearing either dark blue or black jeans, and a dark

buttoned down shirt not tucked into her pants.


here's the setlist:


go

trouble

reunion

least complicated

ozilline

andy

chickenman

cold beer and remote control

shed your skin

closer to fine

sister

peace tonight

tried to be true

power of two

faye tucker

virginia woolf

shame on you


encore


rose polezani song

gone again

galileo


emily called "cold beer..." an american love

song." she also asked about what type of nails

she should use after she broke one onstage.  she

thanked the crowd for the grooming tips.


all in all, another fine show, and they seemed really

gratified to have two great crowds in a row in l.a. i got

a good but not great seat, but from where i was, they

seemed almost sorry to leave such great audiences.

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 08:47:56 mst
reply-to:     chee hill <tcheehill@hotmail.com>
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this is sort of a survey for the indigo girls list; though, i know we're not
permitted to send surveys to the list, i want to do it anyway.  it's short,
so sue me if you need to  --  but i want some data.

so, let's talk about men and women, and their (your) habits of cleanliness.
if you really want ig content, then think of it as a "peace tonight" theme.

i'd like to know a little bit more about your cleanliness / messiness
according to your own perception of yourself.

please answer these questions defintatively.

hit reply, and then just "add in" your answers next to the questions...if
your browser allows you.  please reply to me not the list!

1.  degree of messiness for the messiest:

a.  my desk (or work spaces) right now has a minimum of 5 inches of piled
paper work from corner to corner.

b.  i never clean after i work, and i am not one to organize on a weekly
basis.

c.  if i cook, i wash the dishes after a week or so of keeping them in a
sink.

d.  i never make my bed.  i wash the clothes i need for the following day
the night before, if i'm lucking.

e.  i am an "1a" and have a big pet, like a dog.

f.  i am an "1a" and have a child and/or spouse who is the same.

2.  for the not-so messiest, but still messy:

a.  my desk (or work spaces) has a maximum of 4 inches of pile paper work,
not continuously.

b.  i hardly ever clean, and i am not one to organize anything on a daily
basis.

c.  if i cook, i wash the dishes the day after.

d.  i never make my bed unless i put new sheets on the bed.

e.  i am a "2a" and have a big pet, like a dog.

f.  i am a "2a" and have a child/spouse who is the same.

3.  i am neat, and i am sometimes messy but never nasty.

a.  my desk right now is not totally organized, but paper work is piled into
one area neatly.

b.  i clean daily, and i organize things daily . . . i even make lists of
things to do the next day every night.

c.  if i cook, i wash the dishes after i eat.

d.  i always make my bed.

e.  i am a "3a" and have a big pet, like a dog.

f.  i am a "3a" and have a spouse,child who is the same.

4.  clean freak.

a.  my desk is always organized and cleaned daily.

b.  i am a very organized person.  i make lists for everything, and i have
trouble sleeping if i haven't made a good list for the next day the night
before.

c.  i am constantly cleaning things, and my room or office is always
spotless.

d.  if i cook, i clean the dish after i use it everytime.

e.  i can't live with myself if i am not organized.

5.  degree of success in life:

a.  i am not at all where i wanted to be finacially or socially.

b.  i am on my way.  i am too busy with school to talk about it.

c.  i am slowly making my way to success, but i am frustrated with the
amount of time it's taking.

d.  i am almost there financially and socially --  where i want to be.

e.  i make so much money that i'm addicted to money.  and, my social life
suffers from it.

f.  i have a social life that equals most rock stars, and my financial
situation is suffering from it.

g.  i have both and am happy with both.  (if you have a maid, then you have
to adjust your answers as if you didn't)

the end


thanks,
chee

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 11:09:42 est
reply-to:     shannon mast <shannonmast@hotmail.com>
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just a quick question--anyone ever heard of these guys? i was browsing the
99-cent bin at our local cd warehouse (oh, how i miss the little indie place
back in lima!)--where, by the way, i snagged a sister 7 cd for just 99
cents--and i saw this and thought it looked interesting. it's their "treat
her like a showcat" album--pretty good i think!

just wanted a little feedback if you have any--thanks! :)

shannon

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 09:17:20 -0800
reply-to:     jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
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hiya,

round two:

first, i want to say thank you!! again to leslie and her friends, who
went out of their way to drive me home late on a sunday night.  ok, on
to the review:

ask someone else for the correct set list, but this is what i recall,
in no particular order:

off the new album:
go
trouble
peace tonight
ozilline
soon to be nothing
cold beer and remote control
compromise
faye tucker

oldies but goodies:
romeo & juliet
kid fears
hammer and a nail
power of two
closer to fine
get out the map
(i know i'm missing something else... you know, the one with the "three
lovely back-up singers"... yikes.  i'm having a duh moment)

encores:
(something with vonda shepard that i have heard before on ally.)
gone again
galileo

highlights:

since i was honest about my feelings on rose, i thought i should be
honest about my feelings on vonda.  not knowing her work, i went in
thinking "oh god that ally mcbeal chick" and didn't have very high
expectations.  but, i was pleasantly surprised!  i thought she was
pretty good.  she was definitely entertaining, kept the audience
engaged, and her songs were varied and fun.  i'm not going to rush out
and buy her new album, but i did enjoy her stuff and do see a lot of
potential.

the audience was great, stood and danced nearly the whole show and amy
kept commenting on it... "you're still standing??"  she kept promising
there would be a sit-down moment and then when everyone finally did
sit, she said "i see you found that sit down moment i was talking
about".  it was cute <g>

they played "hammer and a nail" for a little kid named ryan that had
drawn a picture of them and had given it to them at the album signing
at tower that afternoon (more on that later).  in place of "johnny
rotten" which amy had played by herself the night before, everyone left
the stage and amy played "romeo & juliet" by herself on just her
acoustic.  the audience was quiet and really into it and when she
finished she got this huge smile on her face (i love it when she
smiles) and thanked us for listening, it was very sweet.  it happens to
be one of my favorite songs (even though it's not really thier song, i
know) and i thought "ok, now i can die a happy woman."  then they
played "kid fears" and i thought i *had*.  wow.

can i just add how hard it is to dance to compromise?  i love the song,
and most people were on their feet, but everyone was sort of at a loss
for how to move to it :)  and it seems that they play it faster in
concert than it is on the cd too.  good thing it's short!

and that piano intro to power of tow still confuses me.  it's kinda fun
though that no one has any clue what the hell song their playing until
the guitars come in, and then everyone goes "oh! cool!" and starts to
cheer.  <g>

oh and the security staff were jerks and wouldn't let us stay to get
set lists or guitar pics.  it may have been because they needed to get
the heck out of there to get to eureka for tonight's show, but sheesh
throwing a few guitar picks takes what... maybe 10 minutes?  oh well.

so... i don't think there were as many great "moments" in last night's
show as there were on saturday, but there were a lot of great songs,
and some great out-of-the-woodwork stuff, and the performance was well
worth braving a cold, rainy night for.

~jean

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 09:21:37 +0000
reply-to:     smackenz@scrippscol.edu
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subject:      re: berkeley 11/7
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that's cuz you have to jump around like a punk rocker, not dance.
-sam (who wants to be a punk rocker when she grows up)

jean moses wrote:
>
> can i just add how hard it is to dance to compromise?  i love the song,
> and most people were on their feet, but everyone was sort of at a loss
> for how to move to it :)  and it seems that they play it faster in
> concert than it is on the cd too.  good thing it's short!
>

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 10:10:55 -0800
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well, what a weekend! two concerts and a signing and very very little
sleep... my initial response to the concerts is that the whole weekend
felt very very much like a retreat for me, an emotional revival. yes,
i'm exhausted, but i just can't stop smiling! anyone else feel this way?

a quick review, minus the setlist. (if anyone has an exact setlist from
sunday's show, can you forward it to me???)

saturday 11/6:

we started off trying to have a listmeet, but we only found two other
women at the restaurant, who didn't actually belong to the list but who
were wearing list shirts! they were super nice, so that was a ton of
fun! and then jennifer and i met jean at the concert - hi jean! - which
was cool... i liked rose - a little quiet, but she had a cute
personality. definately one of my favorite openers so far. the concert
was incredible. both amy and emily seemed to be having a great time, and
everyone danced and sat at the "right" parts. i was worried we might
have some rude fans, but i guess i didn't need to be. and johnny rotten
was really neat, although i didn't think amy's leg could go up and down
that fast! (she was keeping furious time).

sunday - the signing

so, after being out all night on saturday, i jumped (almost literally)
out of bed at 7:30 and picked up jennifer and her friend alex. we made
it to tower in the castro around 9am. i got in the line for the counting
crows tickets (a long, very crappy story), and they got in line for the
signing. we were probably behind about 20 people. i was so so so so
nervous! i haven't really met them before, so i didn't know what to say
or anything. the three hours we waiting passed really quickly thanks to
good conversation on the sidewalk (i love ig fans!), and then we were
upstairs and they were in the same room looking mighty fine: emily with
a denim shirt and jeans, amy with white (?) pants and a western-looking
brown and tan shirt. they looked tired but happy.

i had brought with me four of my short stories and a little letter to
them about how much their music has inspired me to write, etc., and i
wanted to give it to them. when i got up to the table, i have absolutely
no idea what i said, but i think it went something like this:

me: hi! i'm a writer, and i printed out these very bad stories for you
because i listen to your music when i write and i thought you might like
to see them.

a&e: oh wow, that's cool. thanks!

me: no problem. i know you're only supposed to sign one thing, but can
you sign two?

<giving them a postcard and the cd booklet from cons>
a&e (smiling really big and looking really cute): no problem. both of
'em to amy?

<amy had to read part of my letter to see my name. this totally
flustered me, so i messed up. i had wanted one to mario...>

me: yes please!

<a&e signing and drawing cute little hearts and guitars>

me: the concert last night was great!

a&e: thanks, we're glad you liked it.

me: i'll be there again tonight! i'm looking forward to it.

a&e: so are we! thanks for coming down!


and that's it. i think i just about hyperventilated afterward. it was
crazy. we proceded to go for beer and breakfast (it was noon - that's
not so terrible!)...

and the concert:

i thought that sunday night rocked way more than saturday, if that's
even possible. we had some real stick-in-the-muds sitting around us, but
that didn't really matter. the setlist was incredible - romeo & juliet,
airplane, kid fears, shed your skin, soon be to nothing (which i adore),
all the new stuff.... wow... i was in absolute heaven. and vonda was
really cute and hyper! she kept dancing around the stage and stuff. i
really liked her more than i thought i would, although i really wanted
to dance during "searching my soul" and everyone was sitting down.
*pout*

the girls both seemed in wonderful moods last night, very chatty and
smily. (i love it when amy smiles...) *swoon*

i don't have much else to say except that after seeing cons performed
live, i adore the cd: so much energy...

i took two rolls of pictures, and hopefully some of 'em will turn out
and i'll post 'em to my website. we'll see tomorrow!

thanks for all you bay area folk for being part of such a great
audience!!!!!!!

now i have to rejoin the real world with a big-ass smile on my face.

love,
amy

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 10:12:44 -0800
reply-to:     amy swenson <aswenson@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com>
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subject:      anyone boot the berkeley shows?
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so maybe it's early to ask...

if anyone booted 'em and can get 'em on cd, i'll volunteer to handle
burning...

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 10:52:32 -0800
reply-to:     jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
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oh yeah!

add chickenman and airplane and shed your skin to that partial
out-of-order set list too <sheepish g>

~jean

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> in a message dated 11/08/1999 9:07:51 am pacific standard time,
> sneakyjean@yahoo.com writes:
>
> << ask someone else for the correct set list, but this is what i
> recall,
>  in no particular order:
>   >>
>         amy did chickenman!!  don't forget that one!
>


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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 10:47:49 -0800
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does anyone want to meet up before the seattle show friday night?
a group of us are planning to get together at 6 at thai heaven. it's only
a few blocks from mercer arena.

address:     352 roy seattle wa 98109
             (206) 285-1596
directions:

take the seneca st. exit, #165.
merge onto seneca st.
turn right onto 4th ave.
turn slight right onto broad st.
turn slight left onto 5th ave n.
turn left onto roy st.

map:
http://yp.uswest.com/cgi/search.fcg?mq=y&listing_id=182363997&state=washington

please email me if you plan to attend so that i can get a head count.

thanks,
bon

oh, i do believe i may have an extra ticket, 8th row center section amy's
side. face value + ticketb*stard charges. email me if interested.

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 14:02:02 est
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    couple of things to add to amy and jean's posts about berkeley:

one of em's comments during the sunday show was that they love the bay area
cuz we have such a great community.  she asked if they could be our house
band, which of course met with wild response.  they must have had a really
good time at the tower signing, cuz they mentioned it a bunch of times.  amy,
alex and i had brunch across the street from tower records after we walked
down to the castro and from where were were sitting in the cafe, we had a
great view of em and amy.  they were sitting in front of a big picture window
in tower.  also, we were parked right next to the explorer that they had
ridden in to the signing.
    i don't remember seeing the girls (especially amy!) in such great moods
for a show.  it was a great weekend all the way around.  got to shake both
amy and emily's hand at the signing and they signed a poster i took off a
telephone pole back in '91.  i told amy not to sign across her face (it
looked like she was about to) and she the pen above the pic of her on the
poster and pretended to scribble on it.  too cute.
    jean, it was great meeting you!  sorry we didn't get to meet more
listees.  the two girls we met from san pablo, janessa and susan, were a lot
of fun.  they're friend's of lora lei (sp?) who was on the list (are you
still?).  if you are and read this, e-mail me with their e-mail addresses.
we meant to meet up with them after the sat show, but it didn't happen.
    time to head off to work.  ) :  rather be on the road heading to humbolt
for the girls show tonite!  jenn

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 11:54:31 -0800
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seats 5 and 6 just left of the center aisle, at cost... please contact
simone e-mail _slj@yahoo.com (that's "underscore" slj) or phone 425-413-1335
in maple valley.  e-mail is probably quicker, but the answering machine is
always on.

thanks simone

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did anyone else think the mix @ saturday's bcc show in berkeley really
sucked? both the kick drum and bass was wayyyy too prominent, sloppy &
mushy, drowning out many of the finer, delicate moments. a couple of
em's electric solos were virtually non-existent in the mix. i've seen
many shows at this venue, and non sounded this horrible. the girls were
great, of course (could have played a little longer) but the sound
quality really ruined a good many of the "rockers". idunno... maybe they
just blew off the afternoon sound check...

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 12:00:11 -0800
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wow, then they must have gotten it in line for last night!

i missed saturday, but am leaving now for eureka!!

crazy road trippin....

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>did anyone else think the mix @ saturday's bcc show in berkeley really
>sucked? both the kick drum and bass was wayyyy too prominent, sloppy &
>mushy, drowning out many of the finer, delicate moments. a couple of
>em's electric solos were virtually non-existent in the mix. i've seen
>many shows at this venue, and non sounded this horrible. the girls were
>great, of course (could have played a little longer) but the sound
>quality really ruined a good many of the "rockers". idunno... maybe they
>just blew off the afternoon sound check...
>
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larissa c. brown
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i thought it was funny when a & e were chatting longer than usual between
(i forget which songs) and amy laughs and says something like "sorry, we
were just catching up."  :)

val

>the crossword puzzle thing that lisa mentioned was funny... and they
>also asked about a clue they coulnd't get... a beatles song... amy said
>"it's 4 letters, and then your name."  and a bunch of folks shouted out
>"i call" and amy got this look like duh!! and emily laughed.  another
>human moment, i love it.

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 12:20:18 -0800
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orchestra row f, seat 302

please give this ticket a good home. it won't let you down, it doesn't
carry any emotional baggage, you don't have to buy it groceries or have it
vaccinated, it doesn't bite, and it is guaranteed to bring you much joy.

added bonus:
it's only one seat away from the center aisle and you get to sit next to a
groovy happenin' gal (i'm not telling who, though).

face value (and what a cute face!).

-bon

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 14:21:39 -0600
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get this.  i was put on hold while trying to settle a catalog order.  and
what song should be playing..in typical telephone muzak style?  least
complicated!!!  i just about puked.
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aaaarrrgh! i heard closer to fine in a supermarket, and am hearing great
sarah mclachlan songs played as muzak too...how disgusting

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 12:41:55 -0800
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hope this hasn't been posted yet.... but there's a review of saturday's berkeley, ca show in the san francisco chronicle today.

you can view it online at

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/11/08/dd10009.dtl&type=music

click on the thumbnail of emily's guitar to get a real cute picture of them.

otherwise, here's the article.

indigo girls cover the spectrum
duo's tough-tender folk-rock plays to loving crowd in berkeley
the indigo girls are an equal-opportunity pleasure. women love them. men love them, too. middle-aged mothers and young lesbians, straight and gay guys love them. their appeal is as broad as the bay area is diverse, and on saturday, at the first of duo's two nights at the berkeley community theater, the love was flowing in tidal waves. ''we love playing here,'' the indigo's rocking half, amy ray, told the crowd following one of the concert's many massive sing-alongs.

''on monday we're playing in eureka. that's humboldt county, right?'' she laughed. ''i guess we'll be playing for a different crowd there. maybe cops,'' she said, referring to several 1997 incidents where eureka police and humboldt sheriff's deputies put pepper spray in the eyes of anti-logging protesters. shaking her head, ray struck up the intro to ''shame on you.''

since they released their first album 12 years ago, singer-songwriters ray and emily saliers have evolved into folk-rock's most creative and enduring act. the combination of musical personalities deserves some of the credit: saliers' melodic, singer-songwriter style softens ray's rowdier punk edges; ray gives saliers' mellow flow needed depth and bite.

together, this makes for tough, beautiful music that touches listeners mainstream and hard core alike.

>from the jagged guitar intro of their opening song, ''go,'' to the closing chords of their final encore number, ''galileo,'' the indigo girls had the sold-out house up and dancing, sitting rapt on the slow numbers, swaying in time.

as expected, longtime favorites such as ''closer to fine,'' ''get out the map'' and ''power of two'' got the biggest roars and incited pitch-perfect singing from the crowd. but new material from the band's sixth album, ''come on now social'' -- ''compromise,'' ''gone again''

--were greeted with enthusiastic cheers. it says something about a band's music and its fans when an audience knows the words to month-old songs.

saturday's show highlighted the indigo girls' ability to combine irresistible hooks with complex musicianship and loaded lyrics. a catchy song such as ''trouble'' carries some whopping content with lines such as ''one day war will stop'' and ''one day a girl can get a wife'' -- both of which evoked cheers from the berkeley audience.

they're also the types of lyrics that prompted conservatives to try to ban the openly gay duo from performing at several southern high schools in 1998.

no such problems here. switching between guitar, mandolin and banjo, the indigos enlivened their 90-minute set with frequent shifts among country-western, rock and acoustic folk styles. saliers led one of the evening's most ebullient numbers, ''get out the map,'' and ray's throaty alto ushered in a booming, beat-heavy jam session on ''scooter boys.''

the four-piece backup band performed beautifully. the rhythm section gave hips to the rocking numbers; cellist caroline dale's inventive bowing techniques added layers of emotional depth. carol isaacs' keyboards and accordion carried melodies and transformed the powerhouse acoustic ballad ''johnny rotten'' into an edgy irish jig.

the night's only slow spot came during the encore, when opening act rose polenzani joined the headliners onstage to deliver one of her own twee, wheezy compositions. next to the indigo girls', she sounded like a consumptive hummingbird. chalk it up to the indigos' big hearts and their dedication to championing the weak and helpless. and kudos to the audience for having the grace to applaud. indeed, a little love goes a long way.

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hey all--
it's now the dreaded monday morning after 2 awesome ig concerts.  i've been trying to store all my little thoughts about the shows in my head so i can review them here today, but i don't know how successful i'll be.  here goes:
saturday, 11/6 was awesome.  i had pretty good seats and i was totally pumped to see the girls.  i was really gutsy that night and brought my mom, who was in town that weekend to celebrate her 50th birthday.  she was skeptical about going because she says "i'm not really into folk.  i don't think they rock enough for me", and i think there's a little homophobia in her skepticism as well.  but she loved it.  through go and trouble, she was a little worried because of the thump of the bass in her chest, but she totally warmed up and was dancing and clapping the rest of the night.  it's hard for me to express how happy that made me.  her comments on the show were really interesting to me, because i love the girls so much, i lose perspective on how they really appear to other people.  she was very impressed as just how low amy's voice gets (as was i).  damn, it's awesome.  and during power of two right before "all the sunny little trinkets of temptation" part, i said to my mom "this is one of my favorite harmony parts", and she said "it's like a fugue".  i learned a new term. :)  after the show she explained to me what a fugue is, and used bach as an example.  i was thinking "wow, my mother is comparing indigo girls to bach!"  another big statement my mom said about the show was "it was better than elton john!"  lemme tell ya, that was a statement!  so all that made me very excited.
johnny rotten was such a treat.  absolutely incredible.  amy was giving it her all, and was really winded afterwards.  she was still catching her breath when they were starting the next song.

the whole show was awesome.  i left there feeling absolutely ecstatic, thinking there couldn't be much greater happiness.  i hope i hope i hope someone got a good boot of this.

ok, rose polenzani.  i have to agree with jean on this one.  during her performance, i found myself cringing, and wondering what it is about her that i'm missing that makes people love her so much.  her music seems to be all about lyrics, and the music all sounds the same--not very melodic, and way too similar to many other artists out there nowadays (like many you'd see on the village stage at lilith).  i did like her presence though.  she was cute, and had an interesting stage personality.  she told a story about how she was stuck in traffic and arrived at the venue just in time, and how while in traffic, wondering if she'd make it, she saw a license plate that read 4 gig 720, and took it as a prophecy that 7:20 would be her arrival time.  sure enough, it was.  it was cute the way she told it. :)  but as for her music, i don't get it.  i just don't.  maybe if i read the lyrics...

sunday-- my seats were further back that night, so i felt a little more detached, but still it was awesome.  they sang airplane (that's the "lovely backup singers" one).  emily said they reconstituted this song and that it was about being afraid to fly, then she asked how many people were afraid to fly.  when a handful of hands went up, she said "thank you".  i was happy to see this song live.  i know a lot of you hate it, but i think it's cool.  the only think i don't like about this song is the wailing roches, which obviously weren't there then, so it was cool.  the audience seemed to like it too.  i heard a lot of singing for this one.

one cute moment of the show was when they were joking about the signs (i didn't see any, but i guess they were there).  it was something like:

amy:  "we're gonna start making signs and holding them up for y'all"

emily:  (holding up her imaginary sign) "please clap for this song"

amy: (also with an imaginary sign) "please request this song"

emily:  "please like this song"

then towards the end of the show, the drummer held up a sign saying "(applause)"

amy made some comments about how we wouldn't sit down and said something like "we're gonna play a lot more songs, and there will be a couple when you can sit down.  so we'll close our eyes so we can't see.  we just don't want you to run out of energy"
then after kid fears (where everyone sang michael stipe's part beautifully, while seated), amy said "i see you all found that moment i was talking about where you can sit down"

hmmm, what else... emily dropped her pick during the shed your skin guitar jam, got an "oh well" look on her face and started dancing.
that was cute. :)

oh, there was some other cute banter--they mentioned that they had played for jimmy carter's 75th birthday with the ??? sisters (can't remember who exactly it was), and emily said that these sisters live in vegas and that one of them told amy "next time you're in vegas i'll *show you a good time*", (emily imitated this woman with a very amusing husky voice).  amy said something like "i didn't have the nerve to call her because i didn't know what   that   meant.  but next time, i'll get a surge of confidence, and i'm gonna do it!"  and emily said "and i'm gonna watch".

wow, i guess i remember a lot more about last night's show, but i had a much better time on saturday.  i taped last night's show, which made me a little uptight, and that put a mild damper on the evening.  so yeah, i have a boot, and it's not bad, but not dat or minidisc, so i hope someone out there has a better one.

after seeing these shows, i have to say that amy is making quite an impression on this die-hard emily person.  she looked great and sounded great, and i watched her as much as i watched emily, which wasn't the case in the past.  i think i might be an amy convert now!  well, maybe it's 50-50 now...
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and jean, it was really nice to meet you on sunday.  it's not very often that i meet someone who likes the girls as much as i do.  i almost wish i wasn't with my friends (who are only medium ig fans), because their lack of enthusiasm contributed to my post-show funk.  if they weren't there, i'd have been all over the idea of waiting for them to board the bus. :)  moral of the story for leslie:  choose ig concert companions carefully.

i could say more and more about these shows, but i think i'll stop.  i hope they come back soon!  damn, those girls are awesome...
leslie

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 16:33:07 -0500
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i must make a musical recommendation to everyone because i know many of
you would appreciate this.

ember swift is a toronto based folk-punk musician (a lot like ani) and
she is going to be doing a bunch of dates in the states.  i implore
everyone to check her out.  she travels with a very talented and
creative band and her live show is guarenteed to engage and entertain
you, even if you have never heard her music before.

her u.s. dates include:
11/24 buffalo, ny @ spot coffee (227 delaware)
11/25 olean, ny @ venue t.b.a.
11/26 albany, ny @ mother earth cafe (217 western)
11/27 lowell, ma @ smithwick's (98 middle st.)
11/28 northampton, ma @ fire and water cafe (5 old south rd.)

for more information visit http://www.emberswift.com

she will blow you away!

erica

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date:         mon, 8 nov 1999 16:51:03 est
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hi again everyone!

monday is the deadline for signing up....this will be the last reminder (i
promise!!) =)  we have a few less people than last year, where are y'all?  i
will be getting the list of names and addresses out sooner than expected.  i
have been working on things.  i wanted y'all to have enough time getting your
cards ready.  with the deadline on monday, you should get your lists by
tuesday or wednesday.  then, it is up to you when you send 'em out.  i know
the holidays are a busy time so i didn't want to rush anyone.  also, i am
trying to keep the group size between 16 and 18...hope that is ok with
everyone...

so...just to recap:  email your mailing address (exactly as it should appear
on an envelope) followed by your email address to erinsuepoo@aol.com.

remember...don't sign up unless you want to have fun ;)...and get lots of
cards from ig fans all over the us...and the world!

take care!
erin sue =)

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hi again....well jean did most of this already so...(i had to watch the
x-files last night when i got home so i didn't get online when i got back
from the show :p)

yes, the security people were being very obnoxious at the end - i was down at
the stage trying to get a pic or a setlist but security was busy telling us
we had to go - yikes.  chickenman kicked some butt and romeo and juliet was
awesome..this was my 13th ig show and i had never seen amy do r&j before :)
how cool. airplane (the song with the backup singers heehee) was really fun -
i liked it! and baby don't you break my heart slow with vonda was soooo nice.
i must say that i don't get the whole "let's stand up now, let's sit down
now" thing...how faye tucker and cold beer are sit-down songs i don't
know...alas...i had a good time :) my seats both nights weren't the best but
not the worst either...i was about 25 rows back in the middle on saturday and
26 back to the right on sunday. i still hate bass tickets...unfortunately i
didn't get my lazy ass out of bed for the tower records thing so hopefully
someone can tell us about that..i was also later for sunday than i was for
saturday (we had a power outage in sac so i left very late) so i missed all
of vonda....i've never heard her stuff before except for the emily duet and
one ep of ally.  anyway, i waited out after the show in the rain but the
girls came out and just waved. but i saw sulli and she gave me and a few
others some guitar pics (the one i got was different from the other one from
saturday - both were yellow but one had the new lettering and said indigo
girls on one side and cons on the other - the second one has the sots font
and says it's alright on the back :)

anyway, i taped this one too but it still sounds too fast for me....does
anybody have one of those dictaphone things where you can slow the speed
down? so if anyone wants a copy of course you are welcome to one, but be
warned that it's not by any means great :( time for a new tape recorder i
guess.

lisa

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hi everyone-

i've just rejoined the list after a long time, it's nice to experience such
enthusiasm again.

i'm looking for a taping of the l.a. show on thursday, november 4 at the
wiltern theatre.  it was my 3rd show, and i love the girls more than ever.
i have a few tapes to trade, including another l.a. show from a couple years
ago.

if anyone can help me, i would greatly appreciate it.

thanks, jenn

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hi folks,

a couple of things...

this time of year seems to bring out the political sides of many
people...and a few brief comments sent to the list are fine.

however, continuing political discussions need to be taken to other
forums such as private email or other lists.

also, please keep your sigs between 4 and 6 lines.

thanks.

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i have one extra ticket for the dec. 9 performance in san francisco.
if you are interested please email privately.

thanks,

jean


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okay, can somebody please explain this to me.... slowly....

alison - who knows she's going to feel stupid when she finally gets it.


>the crossword puzzle thing that lisa mentioned was funny... and they
>also asked about a clue they coulnd't get... a beatles song... amy said
>"it's 4 letters, and then your name."  and a bunch of folks shouted out
>"i call" and amy got this look like duh!! and emily laughed.  another
>human moment, i love it.

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hi,

i just received my copy of the 12" remixes!  wow!  i had to drag my turntable
back out and man, it sounds soooooo awesome.  no cracking, skipping or
anything and the sound is absolutely sooooo cool!  :)

when the first song came on, i definitely felt like i was in a club.  what a
concept.  a club playing indigo girls dance music.  :)

ever since i took my tom morello mix to a local club and they played it, i've
had a much deeper enjoyment for it when heard live!

so, if anyone can get theirs hands on a copy, by all means do it!

amanda

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last month, a local atlanta magazine, stomp and stammer, reviewed "come on
now social".    this month, amy responded to that review with a letter to the
editor/reviewer.

to follow her letter, and her points, i thought it would be best to also
include the original review in this email.   and i'll also include his
response to her letter.

and i'm not sending this to reopen the debate on the death penalty, but i
thought amy's response to his criticism, and her thoughts about "faye tucker"
(person and song) might clear up some things to those who might still have
questions regarding her motives.

lisa

all reprinted without permission from stomp & stammer
(http://www.stompandstammer.com)
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the original review:

come on now social
reviewed by jeff clark
stomp & stammer - october, 1999
4 out of 6 stars

musically, the new indigo girls album kicks off with an incendiary blast: a
crunchy, amy ray-penned slapshot called "go," marked by the pair's
uncharacteristically nasty rock 'n' roll guitars and ray's raw, passionate
vocals. the tune harkens positively to neil young's periodic work with crazy
horse, and sets the tone for a radical, and most welcome, upping of their
creative ante. alas, it never materializes in what follows. cut number two,
an emily saliers composition called "soon to be nothing" that sounds like it
should be sandwiched between john denver and poco on some '70s "ez lite rock"
fm station, makes for such a drastic and immediate shift in mood and tempo
that the urgency of what came before is soon forgotten. what seems at first
glance to be an effort to hotwire the atlanta duo's pop fortunes by making a
star-studded, musically-adventurous statement is in actuality just another
indigo girls album.

which is not necessarily a bad thing, mind you. there's a lot to be said for
the comfortable and familiar, and the indigo girls have resonated with such a
dedicated following not by faking hipness but by conveying a realness, a
conviction and an authenticity that most other popular entertainers simply
lack. as people like young, bob dylan, and others of their predecessors who
have also straddled the fence between folk and rock discovered, when they
strayed too far from what the simplicity of what they do and tried on
different trends or pop sheen, it more often than not fell flat, because it
obscured their true strengths. thus, while come on now social has been
suitably lilithed with musical guest spots by joan osborne, sheryl crow, and
me'shell ndegeocello, their presence on the album is, wisely, hardly
noticeable. if you didn't realize in advance that they were there, you
wouldn't know or care. they neither add nor detract. meanwhile, ray and
saliers continue their incorporation of traditional acoustic instruments like
banjo and mandolin, to great effect, giving songs like "ozilline" and "gone
again" a homey, warm southern ambiance. the only songs besides "go" to really
rock out -- saliers' "trouble" and ray's "compromise" -- do so with vigor and
confidence. i really wish they'd do more of that, but then again, that
probably has more to do with my own tastes. i never cared much for poco,
anyhow.

whether political propaganda deserves any place in the rock 'n' roll world is
also, i suppose, a matter of taste, but obviously the indigo girls believe
that it does, what with the causes they've rallied around, the lists of
activist groups they encourage their listeners to support (mostly
environmental, gun control, feminist and gay/lesbian lobbies), and the
highly-charged leftist content of many of their songs. while it's no surprise
that i don't saddle up with them on many issues, i can vouch for the
sincerity of their beliefs and admire their ethics. but really, amy, you're
going for the way-too-easy heart-tugging tactics on "faye tucker," the
closing song here (prior to a pair of bonus tracks). it's a mournful elegy
for the first woman executed for murder in texas since the civil war,
complete with the angelic vocals of arabic singer natacha atlas, but any way
you look at it, ray's philosophical presentation is flawed. "well mercy could
prove us," she sings, "but nothing would move us, to rise above just being
cruel." now, wait a minute. is she saying that that, because tucker was
female, she should have been treated differently than the male inmates on
death row? that would go against the supposed cornerstone of feminism and
equality of the sexes, right? so the message must be that capital punishment
= evil, a view which is backed up by the girls' listing of the national
coalition to abolish the death penalty in the "resources" section of the
album's liner notes. but do you think ray would ever sing some weepy song
mourning the execution of a guy who raped and dismembered little girls, or
dragged some black man behind his pickup truck until he was decapitated?
hell, no! to do so would cause ray's listeners to question their blanket
acceptance of the indigo girls' anti-capital punishment stance. such
horrendous murders do not lend themselves so easily to emotional pleas for
leniency and calls for re-hab hand-holding. was not tucker also "being cruel"
when she committed murder in the first place? such self-evident details, when
pointed out, crumble the effectiveness of protest songs such as "faye
tucker," exposing them to be all-too-shallow. it's a consistent failing that
the indigo girls would do well to overcome.

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amy's letter:

to jeff -
actually, i am saying any killing is cruel, whether it be what k. faye did or
the death penalty imposed by the state.   i am unashamedly against capital
punishment - no matter who is up for it.  it does not bring any resolution or
healing, does not save money and can never be issued in an unbiased fashion -
money, race, and sex do play a role in things.

the song is meant to allude to the more interesting problems that come up
when faye becomes a pawn instead of a human in the tug of war between anti-
and pro-death advocates.  her apparent rebirth to christianity created
strange bedfellows in this battle.  in the end, it didn't matter that she was
okay with her own death sentence.  no matter what happens - she can't win
("if you live they're gonna make you a campaigner - if you die they'll make
you a grave") - she lost control of her soul and her life when she took
another - just as we do when instituting the death penalty.  "that's why
killing don't pay" was meant for us and k. faye.

if you will follow the lyrics more closely you will see that the song is full
of double entendre and irony.  i chose this particular story not because she
is a woman - but rather i had read so much about it and found it compelling.
i have a long history of fighting the death penalty in any case - even the
most gruesome.  you are too swayed by false assumptions about the indigo
girls and your assumptions are - as you say about the song - "shallow" at
best.  our politics go very deep and include all of the irony, absurdity,
humor and gray areas that this life has to offer.  you would do well not to
fall into the same trap that some other male rock critics have fallen prey to
- we are not some fledgling female band that can be summed up by a list of
political resources and a few pop songs.  we have been playing together for
20 years and have endured a lot of bullshit, yet are still willing to rock
and be committed financially and time-wise to our issues.  this is more than
i can say for most bands.  here's to the motherfuckin revolution!

amy ray (indigo girls)

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jeff clark's response:

amy,

well, i never once insinuated that i believed you or emily were not fully
committed to your issues.  as a native atlantan who has followed your work
since the early days, i am convinced of your passion in these matters.  nor
have i ever referred to you as some fledgling female pop band.  i just
disagree with you on the death penalty matter.  i believe that heinous crimes
call for serious punishment, not vague rehabilitation.  in fact, the death
penalty does bring about resolution, it would save money if it was actually
instituted properly, and if we are to believe that it can never be issued in
an unbiased fashion, well then neither can any other courtroom decision, so
why don't we just do away with all of it and let everyone do whatever the
fuck they like without any threat of punishment?  after all, it's never
unbiased, is it?

keep on rockin' in the free world!

jeff clark

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hello everyone,

i'm poking my nose back in here after a long absence. it's nice to see the
positive energy.

i went to both berkeley shows and they were awesome, even though my seats
weren't great. i also went to the signing at tower and met a & e for the
first time. there were as sweet and wonderful as i had always hoped they
were. i gave them a printout copy of the sunday ny times crowssword, and
they really seemed to appreciate it.
it was a truly excellent weekend, and i didn't get one shred of homework
done. oh well.

i won't post along review except to say that 1) i didn't like rose very much
(sorry!), 2) the girls looked and sounded terrific, and 3) amy could have
been miked a little better on saturday night. the "bottom" sound nearly
drowned her out a couple of times.

peace,
karen

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i think amy did a rebuttal to an interview done by the same magazine before.
i wonder why amy chooses to respond to this magazine.

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neil the resident beatles expert to the rescue:

this would be their song 'i call your name'.

>okay, can somebody please explain this to me.... slowly....
>
>alison - who knows she's going to feel stupid when she finally gets it.
>
>>the crossword puzzle thing that lisa mentioned was funny... and they
>>also asked about a clue they coulnd't get... a beatles song... amy
said
>>"it's 4 letters, and then your name."  and a bunch of folks shouted
out
>>"i call" and amy got this look like duh!! and emily laughed.  another
>>human moment, i love it.


http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/home.htm
this week, neil 'as been been mostly listening to:
loudalgleigh music; john coltrane 'a love supreme'; v.a. 'raw pre-war
gospel'; nico 'chelsea girl'
song o' the week: the beautiful south 'perfect 10'

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in a message dated 11/08/1999 12:46:51 pm pacific standard time,
annalissa@m2net.com writes:

<< carol isaacs' keyboards and accordion carried melodies and transformed the
powerhouse acoustic ballad ''johnny rotten'' into an edgy irish jig.
  >>
wrong!!  i wrote to the reviewer to let her know that it was not "johnny
rotten", but "faye tucker" that she was writing about.  duh.  ( :
don't mess with us ig die-hards!  get it right.  ( :
jenn

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i have in my hands two promo tapes for catie curtis' new album "a crash course
in roses".  the next two listees who email me can have one for $1 (to cover
postage) if they like.  sorry to the digest folks, but since it is nigc, i
figure you won't mind.

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i never thought i could dance to "galileo" or "faye tucker" . . . but, i
did.  actually i found it hard to get used to "gone again" groove.
"compromise" however was not a problem at all.

[sorry for dancing (slamming) next to all y'all listees at the dallas show.
and thanks to di for the better seat (although i did not sit for the rest of
the show)...she gave me her ticket in the middle of the show.]

>that's cuz you have to jump around like a punk rocker, not dance.
>-sam (who wants to be a punk rocker when she grows up)
>
>jean moses wrote:
> >
> > can i just add how hard it is to dance to compromise?  i love the song,
> > and most people were on their feet, but everyone was sort of at a loss
> > for how to move to it :)  and it seems that they play it faster in
> > concert than it is on the cd too.  good thing it's short!


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this is gonna go out late this week cause i just got a new computer and i
just realized all my birthday stuff is on the other one - i'm crazy.  i
will get to it tomorrow i promise!  well barring any unforseen
circumstances anyways...

love,
audra


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i'd rather be marginalized than to compromize,
and vote for someone i don't believe in.  isn't that what voting is
supposed to be about----the freedom to vote for whoever you think would
be the best , the one who best suits te values you  stand for.....the
kind of laws you want  made.

in a day when most people who are going to the polls,  misinformed by
the corporate-owned media on purpose,  so that the wealthy can stay in
power.....simply vote for "the lesser of two evils"  it/s very sad to
see  so many candidates go down the tube  for lack of  money.  the way i
see it,  the whole  capitalist system needs  an
overhaul.....and that can' only happen when all oppressed people come
together to say , "enough is enough."

we have so many parties to choose from,  but
because the republicans and the democrats
succeed in buyng air-time, add space   and the media keeps sucking-up,
to the rich cohorts who back  these  parties......including the reform
party  and any party founded by a bilionaire    i  shudder to think
where this country  is going...........

especially if some people feel they have to be
dishonest and go vote  for someone they don't believe in.   like i said,
i'd rather be marginalized, than vote for someone who's going to do a
bunch of stuff i'm going to have to try and undo, if i love my country.
that's my two cents.  (okay flame me)

hicktruckdriver writes  <<now do you feel marginalized?>>

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hi to all ~

this is the old bat from michigan who had the divine opportunity to see the
indigo girls in la on friday!  i'm back in bland rapids now, but the concert
was wonderful!

my friend and i arrived about 6:30 pm.  mind you, he was not an indigo girls
fan prior to the show, but he fell in love with the music!   my gift to him
for buying the tickets, after much deliberation, was a cons cd, which he will
savor forever (or so he says)....

let me preface this by saying that i think it was extremely thoughtful of him
to "take a risk" and go along with me to this extraordinary event.  i think
he was teased quite a bit by his mainstream guy friends, who listen to surf
music and the gypsy kings, beatles, steely dan, even ac/dc (you know, the
whole gamut of male oriented rock and roll), about going to this concert.
he was totally taken aback by the talent of the ipg and their band.   he
loved rose, too.

bob's been around a long time, and he is very well acquainted with the la
music scene.  he said that he has probably been to 300 concerts over the
years.  and when this concert was over, he said, "this is one of the top
three concerts i have ever experienced, and the absolute best in the last ten
years."

wow.  i asked him what he was gonna tell those male nay-sayers....and he
said, "i'll tell them that the indigo girls were awesome, and even if you
don't ever buy a cd, go hear and see them for yourself before you  pass
judgment."

he was so impressed with the harmonies and the guttural intensity and honesty
of both amy and emily, as well  as the musicianship of all of the players
(though i think he was totally digging the cellist...at least that's where
the binoculars seemed to end up, from my point of view, when i was watching
him watch the stage...although he did ask me a few times who the redhead in
the black on the right was, "amy or emily?" ).  bob is no music slough ~ it's
not like i went with some "unexposed" person.  (my taste is way more
narrow...) he has a wide and varied taste in music and what seems like a
million cd's in his collection.  but bottom line, he thought the indigo girls
were superlative.

i think he was just blown away with the open atmosphere.  when amy "fucked"
up (not really, in my opinion nbd) and said, "i am so, so sorry...."  he
thought that was so cool!  the girls are so gracious, it is refreshing.

i loved being there with someone who had never heard the ig before!  it's
like a christian "giving testimony," bringing a convert from the fire to the
fold!  (forgive me if i have offended anyone.)

i loved the concert!  the acoustics were wonderful, the ambiance of the
wiltern was warm and luscious ~ an aesthetic sun kissing everyone present.
every song held meaning for me ~ "faye tucker" stood out that night,
musically it was tight and veracious, all in all beyond outstanding, same as
"ozziline."    "virginia woolf" still haunts me and was beautiful.   "power
of two" and "least complicated" were moving, as always.  personally, "gone
again" and "galileo" are favorites, and i really loved hearing "tried to be
true..."  i was pleasantly surprised by that.  by failing to mention a song,
i don't mean to exclude, because i enjoyed every second.  hell, right now i'm
listening to "love will come to  you," and that has always been a favorite.
i saw them perform that at jack breslin center in '93 and melted like the
witch from the west.   but i digress....

we loved the concert, and the people we shared it with.  up in the mezzanine,
i was seated directly behind this cat who was obviously a huge fan.  when ig
came on, he and his companion moved down to the main floor, and bob and i
thought we were free of obstacles for the first four songs.  however, an act
of god (obviously) sent them back to their rightful place in an indigo world,
and before we knew it, they were back.  as a general rule, where we were
sitting, the crowd was not standing (except for dancing-type songs).
however, cat number one in the black and red striped shirt with the fish net
arm huggers is a dancer and is not sitting down. period, we learn.  so he is
ummm....grroooovvvving...almost like dead head wigging, to every song, and
bob decides to close his eyes to hear the music and i am popping my head
practically into the lap of the socialist masters degree student next to me
from minnesota (he was the coolest!!!)  to see the girls.   i was cool and
just adjusting, but i have to say that i was getting sick of staring at the
wigger's ass (it was a moving target ~ i never knew where to look, exactly,
except for the obvious), and so, finally, the kindest and coolest woman of
all came down and offered bob and i two vacant seats a couple of rows back,
because she was observing all of this...and so we followed her.....and she
was so kind, offering binoculars and all!  she said, "i felt really bad for
you, i could tell you were into the concert but you had to deal with that
rubberband man in front of you...."  if you are on this list, you know who
you are, e-mail privately, we thought you were totally kind....i'd like to
thank you.

and to denice and becky whom we met before the concert, while looking at the
bus (what a great line for title of a poem)...

enough...it was a great experience.  i am going to try to get a sister to go
to the ann arbor concert....i have to see them again!

bob, i love you!  thanks for this gift!  it is better than gold, frankincense
or myrrh.

vicki

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so the berkeley bit was this...they were talking about how they were doing
the puzzle and the clue was 5 letters, "a beatles song: _____ your name" and
they couldn't get it, which is when the guy yelled "i call" and amy said "oh
duh, how could we;ve missed that? maybe we should bring it out and work on
clues between songs." it was cute :)

on a sigc/nigc note - i'm trying to contain my nigc posts..but i have a
question...most of the stuff that we post that is nigc is related to the
girls....i think it is definitely relavent to post political and social stuff
when it relates to the girls and their causes (this is of course, my opinion,
but the title of the album is come on now social for a reason) anyway, just
my opinion and i realize it's not my list so i'll behave

oh i love amy's response to that reviewer. rock on girl :) yeehaw! welcome to
the motherfuckin revolution! (anybody who has an actual copy of this from the
paper/magazine who wants to make me a copy??)

anyway, i still think my tape of berkeley #1 sucks...it's not bad for a while
but it sounds kind of warped near the end (maybe the batteries were
dying..who knows)

lisa (who still likes rose and is confused why digest people don't like long
posts...)

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hi everyone,

i decided to come out of lurkdom for a minute and share my ig moment with
everyone.

i was in florence, italy over the weekend, and had a chance to visit
gallileo's grave. wow, that totally made my day, so me and my gf were just
standing there breaking into the song, not giving a damn about what people
might have been thinking:) 'gallileo's head was on the block.....la la la'

last night i put cons on and during faye tucker my gf suddenly started to
giggle. i was like what, what what's so funny, this is not a funny song?!

well, you know the bit when it goes 'rise above just being cruel', my gf
thought amy was singing 'rise above lesbian fools' silly, lol :)

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> i think amy did a rebuttal to an interview done by
> the same magazine before.
> i wonder why amy chooses to respond to this
> magazine.

i believe that was atlanta magazine.  amy sent a
letter sharply criticizing the angle of the article.

peace!


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i seemto have misplaced the stomp and stammer cons review, and amy's
response.
would someone be kind enough to send them
to me??  i'm dying of curiousity now that i can't find them :-(

thanks,

barb

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november 8 ('78)
stephaniemerhar@hotmail.com (stephanie merhar)
"light the embers of another
and the night won't seem so rough"

november 9 ('75)
alcapi@mail.wm.edu (amy l. capistran)

indigopony@aol.com (carrie mowbray)
"you could have seen the acting on the stage
you might have read the writing on the page
you could have noticed that a heart went breaking into two
but you never knew it was i was falling for you"

november 9 ('77)
jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu (jennifer l. keller)

november 9
joanne.cusick@cexp.com (joanne)
"you've got to dance like nobody's watching, and love like it's never
going to hurt."

november 12 ('55)
matthew_pallamary@cpqm.saic.com (matthew pallamary)

november 12
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com (nancy humphries)

november 12 ('77)
missapissa@nwu.edu (melissa)
"if you cage a wild thing, you
can be sure it will die. but if
you let it run free, nine times
out of ten, it'll run back home."
~fried green tomatoes


happy birthday all!
*ponders a new program on her new computer to keep her list of birthdays
in* *heh* yay!

love,
audra


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>i never thought i could dance to "galileo" or "faye tucker" . . . but, i
>did.  actually i found it hard to get used to "gone again" groove.

>"compromise" however was not a problem at all.

the girls are highly danceable...particularly pogo-style.  which doesn't
bode well for boots, but is good for lots of silly folkiepunk fun.

of course, if you're jill, joan armatrading is pogo-able, too.  but that,
methinks, is a different story.

glad to see ya back, chee!

shel

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on tue, 9 nov 1999, that loud girl wrote:

> of course, if you're jill, joan armatrading is pogo-able, too.  but that,
> methinks, is a different story.

   "what happened to you?"
   "i fell in the mosh pit during 'the weakness in me.'"

   darius

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        reply to:   re>amy responds to stomp & stammer cons review - long!special

that was so cool!  we've defended amy in the same way on this list, but to read her own words responding to an idiotic reviewer--wow!  go amy!  thanks lisa, for posting that.  that's one i'll have to save.
leslie

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>here's to the motherfuckin revolution!

anyone else think there's a perfect sig file in that? :)

kel


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in disguise."  the indigo girls; "jonas and ezekial."

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> but to read her own words
> responding to an idiotic reviewer--wow!  go amy!

well first of all, i didn't see the reviewer as an
idiot - he was expressing some valid points about the
death penalty, and perhaps playing the "devil's
advocate."  however, i disagree with his implication
that amy's choice of fay tucker as the subject of her
song was calculated.

it's always great to hear an artist clarify their
inspiration/motivation for writing a song!

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thanks for posting this lisa!

man, was that reviewer condescending or what?  left handed compliments
everywhere... "just another ig album"??  i'm glad amy replied, although
she might have done better to stop before she got to the part about
falling into the trap that most of their male reviewers do... the point
was well taken, but she turned around and attacked him in return which
gave him fuel for his response.  you have to be very careful when
writing letters like that.

but, i'm glad she said and he deserved it so you go amy!  :)

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seems to me that the reviewer should have been commenting on the music,
and not the politics.  he states pretty clearly that he doesn't agree
with ig on many of their political issues, and he really did miss the
point of the song, which was that some of the main proponents of the
death penalty (the conservative christian right) were asking for the
penalty to be waived in the case of k. f. t. because she'd been "born
again" and therefore somehow didn't fall under the need for punishment
anymore, or something like that.  the song is more about the irony of
the entire situation, than anything else.  if ig choose to use their
music to make political comments, that's one thing.  but for a music
reviewer to use that as a springboard to soapbox his own political
views, well, hell!  he should pick up a guitar and record an album of
his own!

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both copies have been claimed.  if you haven't get a message from me about them,
sorry.  check around at your local record store - they may have some.

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reminds me of the concert i was at in nc a month ago when a guy began crowd
surfing during power of two.  after the song, amy said "well, i don't think
anyone's ever crowd surfed to *that* song before!"
i thought that was cute. =)

peace,
sharon

that loud girl wrote:

> >i never thought i could dance to "galileo" or "faye tucker" . . . but, i
> >did.  actually i found it hard to get used to "gone again" groove.
>
> >"compromise" however was not a problem at all.
>
> the girls are highly danceable...particularly pogo-style.  which doesn't
> bode well for boots, but is good for lots of silly folkiepunk fun.
>
> of course, if you're jill, joan armatrading is pogo-able, too.  but that,
> methinks, is a different story.
>
> glad to see ya back, chee!
>
> shel
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alright everyone i am getting flack from this semi-important...ok very
important girl in my life about the fact that i procrastinated buying
tickets for the denver shows. look she is coming in from atlanta and we
are both driving over from salt lake....so please someone help me out
and save my life. since the shows are both ga if anyone has one extra
ticket or two for the 11/19 show let me know. thanks in advance.

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this was very interesting - thanks from me as well, lisa.

the subtext of the whole exchange is very interesting. two issues jumped
out at me but i haven't had a chance to sort it all out in my mind yet:

1. the obvious - these two folks are on opposite sides of a political issue
and it played out substantively in the review of the record

2. the not so obvious (and i might be crazy here) - there's some weird kind
of devaluing thing going on in jeff's review.  his arguments for what he
liked and disliked about the album (and ig) weren't entirely consistent. he
liked the rockin' stuff, and didn't so much like the "same old ig" music
(%#'&!) (poco? what?), but he attempted to praise the girls even in their
"same old" style for remaining true to themselves - with a reference to
dylan and young thrown in for good measure. he obviously respects dylan and
young. i get the feeling he does not respect ig, at least not in the same
way. it's laden with some kinda negative overtones. what's up with this??
wish i had time to dissect it - i may just be reading too much into it due
to my own preconceived ideas.

in any case:
>whether political propaganda deserves any place in the rock 'n' roll
>world is also, i suppose, a matter of taste,

as is taking a heavy dose of the reviewer's political point of view. i just
want to experience the message in the art.

jmo,
sue

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that's telling  'em amy...you go girrrl!
bottom line  no killing, no matter how clean
we might try to make it.

peace,

barb

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hi everyone!

so i might be able to fly into mn on business the week after
thanksgiving - which would mean i would be able to get to the eau claire
and minneapolis concerts quite possibly. so.... does anyone have an
extra ticket? or are they still available? are the shows general
admission or reserved seating? any info on signings, etc.??????

let me know!!!!!!!

love,
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just a random thing to share:

as if working in a cubicle isn't annoying enough already (constantly
distracted by people walking by, phone conversations from the cube next door
- and the one next to that - the ringing of the receptionist's phone, etc).
earlier today i went into the office across the hall from my cube to ask my
coworker a question and i hear "scooter boys and argentinians, europe shed
the blood of the indians..." from her computer speakers.  because she has a
door she can listen to ig all day long if she wants to!  geez, wouldn't a
ceiling and a door be really nice sometimes?  of course, then i'd be singing
all day long.  oh, well, back to work.  somehow i'll make it through.

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    anyone?  how was the show???
jenn

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crosswords...

last night in eureka (good show, though they seemed tired) they had had a bet on
how to spell barqs rtootbeer and a girl in the audience settled it and emily won
but amy made her promise to donate the money to charity..

better review later i swear....


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>i thought it was funny when a & e were chatting longer than usual between
>(i forget which songs) and amy laughs and says something like "sorry, we
>were just catching up."  :)
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>val
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>
>>the crossword puzzle thing that lisa mentioned was funny... and they
>>also asked about a clue they coulnd't get... a beatles song... amy said
>>"it's 4 letters, and then your name."  and a bunch of folks shouted out
>>"i call" and amy got this look like duh!! and emily laughed.  another
>>human moment, i love it.
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gee thanks for all the responses i've received
regarding stomp and stammer, and amy's response.  take care.

peace,

barb  :-)

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fashion report:
amy--the black tank top (chest tattoo visible); blueish silk (?) button down
over it; blue jeans; those blue suede platforms
emily-- black pants; white t-shirt; green (?) button down over it
        didn't notice what shoes; glittery eyelid stuff

setlist:


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(sorry, that first one was sent accidentally)
report from front row center. . .

fashion report:
amy--the black tank top (chest tattoo visible); blueish silk (?) button down
over it; blue jeans; those blue suede platforms
emily-- black pants; white t-shirt; green (?) button down over it;
        didn't notice what shoes; glittery eyelid stuff

setlist (complete, but not in order):

go
trouble
land of canaan
cold beer & remote control
peace tonight
three hits
power of two
shed your skin
shame on you
get out the map
tried to be true
closer to fine
ozilline
faye tucker
johnny rotten
gone again
galileo
or (w/ rose)
least complicated
soon be to nothing

fun moments:

* amy completely blew tried to be true. . .twice!  it was great!  she was
like, "i can't believe i fucked that up," and then emily said "i think i
fucked that up that time."  cute as hell.  then amy said that this was
becoming more like a comedy act than a music act.  (they started again at
the second verse and it was great)

* emily said that she and amy had a bet, and then asked the audience who
knew how to spell barq's root beet, because it was one of the crossword
clues they had been working on the whole day.  emily won.  amy said she
better donate it to charity, and emily said, "i'll donate the money that amy
ray owes me."

* when they introduced the band, amy kept prefacing the women with "lovely
lady," and then claimed that blair the drummer was the male ping pong
champion.  (they had a ping pong table set up in the lobby for awhile before
they opened the doors)

* amy said at one point that the people they encountered at the hotel
they were staying at were really nice and of course the crowd went nuts,
because they inferred people in our community were nice.

* someone requested strange fire (actually, maybe it was several people) and
they had a little conference about whether they remembered it.

* something i got to see because of where i was, happened when amy was
introducing the band and sulli had been tuning emily's guitar off-stage, and
almost ran out to her with it while amy was
introducing the bass player and emily gave sulli a little wave of the
finger and shook her head, indicating that it was not the right time to run
onto stage and then sulli started making these pouty faces and emily
laughed.

* during gone again, amy replaced "melbourne wrecking crew" with "arcata
wrecking crew."

that's about it.  great show!  rose opened and was incredible!  there's
someone else on this list who probably has more exciting things to report
than me, but i'm not saying anything. . .ahem, kelly!
:)


-anna

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hey everybody,
i know the words to the spoken word stuff during go were posted, but does
anyone have the link to the site where the entire poem is?? thanks very much
:)
lia

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in a message dated 11/9/99 10:17:49 am central standard time,
barbinmn@webtv.net writes:

<<  seemto have misplaced the stomp and stammer cons review, and amy's
response.
would someone be kind enough to send them
to me??  i'm dying of curiousity now that i can't find them :-(
  >>

i need that post again as well.  thanks!

pam

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alright, everyone repeat after me, just because a reviewer doesn't like amy
and emily or their album, doesn't make them an idiot.

okay, now that we've got that cleared up, i think the reviewer did miss some
points, but one in particular caught my attention has made me think.  i know
amy has always stuck to her guns and never wavered about the death penalty,
but do you think she could ever write a song like "faye tucker" about
someone who dragged a black man behind his pickup truck, or raped and
murdered dozens of kids?  i know amy wrote this song to point out the
hypocrisy that occurred in this case on both sides, but all the same, don't
you think it made it easier that k faye was a woman?  just food for thought
and discussion...

jennie

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hi all!

ok i'm looking for a few things:

- a boot of johnny rotten (i play the mandolin, i wanna learn it!)

- a boot of either berkeley show, or both!

- a copy of that post that had amy's letter in response to the review.
i seem to have gotten delete happy and i wanted to pass it on to a
friend.

-can someone tell me the name of the song that "go" was based on?  i
know it's the bonus track on 1200 curfews, but is it on any other
album?  i seem to be having an attack of the "duh"s <g>

- i'm looking for a b&w promo photo for cons, actually any recent photo
(b&w or color) would do if it's 8x10")


thanks!

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hi,

i was wanting to join a lesbian list and i was wondering if anyone out there
may have some good ideas.

thanks!

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hi, i'm looking for a boot of the girls recent show last friday in la. i
just resigned on the list so i apologize if this has already been
mentioned. any info. would be great, thanks!
        ~danielle

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hi all i am a new member of the list and a huge fan.  recently i met a man at
one of their shows who gave me a copy of a bootleg.  i had no idea that this
could be done and now i am most excited.  i know normally people trade them,
but the only one i have to offer is the toad's place bootleg.  i was
wondering if anyone had anything to trade for it, and if not would anyone be
able to help a fellow fan out by giving them one...it would be most
appreciated.  i really wish i had more to offer.  i hope to hear from all of
you soon.  thanks again...

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from the land of geek phone support all i can say is, i
feel your pain.

acoustical tiling is nothing like acoustic guitar.
at all.

kc
> just a random thing to share:
>
> as if working in a cubicle isn't annoying enough already (constantly
> distracted by people walking by, phone conversations from the cube next door
> - and the one next to that - the ringing of the receptionist's phone, etc).
> earlier today i went into the office across the hall from my cube to ask my
> coworker a question and i hear "scooter boys and argentinians, europe shed
> the blood of the indians..." from her computer speakers.  because she has a
> door she can listen to ig all day long if she wants to!  geez, wouldn't a
> ceiling and a door be really nice sometimes?  of course, then i'd be singing
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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the newsgroup.  please direct your
responses to the original poster at rtsimantel@aol.com,
not to me...

-sherlyn

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subject: cheap oregon tickets for sale
date: 08 nov 1999 23:42:18 gmt

hey i bought too many tickets to the oregon shows! 2 extra in portland and 2
extra in eugene.. so ill sell them cheaper than what i paid.. i paid 75$ for
the porland ones and i paid 70$ for the eugene ones.. however ill sell them
for
like 45$ for any set of two tickets.. maybe even cheaper.. let me know today
ps i bought these tickets like 3 weeks ago so they should be much better than
what you can get today
contact me at rtsimantel@aol.com

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hey folks,

this is from the newsgroup, please direct any responses to
the original poster at promos@moons.uk.com, not to me...

-sherlyn

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subject: indigo girls 4 sale
date: tue, 9 nov 1999 16:57:18 -0000

current list,  1st set of prices are in uk pounds the 2nd in us dollars,
shipping is a little extra depending on where you live,  please tell us this
as it speeds up getting the items to you.
all are mint unless stated different and most types of payment are accepted
including credit cards.

chris
moons
chris@moons.uk.com

indigo girls 123 u.s epic eas 4020 promo 12" with studio and live versions
and 6 other live tracks 9.99 15.98

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for the european amongst us:
lucy kaplansky is coming to a town, if not near you, then maybe the next
country over. (ha.)  try to catch a show if you can, she's fab. (isn't that
what they say over in your neck of the world?)
(or was that like 30 years ago?)

12/9    the pheasant, sheffield    0114 251 3014
12/10   folk club, west houghton  01942 812301
12/11   the borderline, london   0171 734 2095
12/12   tron theatre, glasgow    0141 552 4267
12/13   the lemon tree, aberdeen     01224 642230
12/15   sandinos, derry   01504 309297
12/16   errigle inn, belfast     01232 749993
12/18   cobblestones, dublin   00 353 41 42240
12/19   mallow park hotel, mallow   00 353 29 50779


and you all missed the most spastic-fun show here in oberlin last night.
over a hundred multi-pierced tree-hugging labor militant
east-timor-protesting postmodern vegans getting jiggy with toshi reagon.
(you should come out here for a show sometime, if only because the students
are so uh creatively decorated i guess you could say.)
but anyhow.  toshi toshi toshi.  ohhh words fail me.  she's
folkrockbluesjazzetcetera all mixed together.  she prefaced one song with,
'here's a little folk rock country blues post-punk song for all yous."
indeed.  look her up, check her out,
love it, covet, eat it with a spoon.

jill

-heya julie liebes, have your email, am a rat bastard for not replying
sooner, will do so asap.

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date:         tue, 9 nov 1999 16:40:49 -0800
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i know
>amy has always stuck to her guns and never wavered about the death penalty,
>but do you think she could ever write a song like "faye tucker" about
>someone who dragged a black man behind his pickup truck, or raped and
>murdered dozens of kids?

many prisoners -- men and women -- do become born-again christians, and the
song could apply to them as it does to karla faye tucker. it does not
absolve them of their crimes, but focuses on their attempts to become a
socially acceptable human being. accepting them back into society would
reflect a faith in humanism -- that the soul can be reclaimed for good. can
we know if her conversion was genuine? we'll never be able to find out. from
what i've read, it seemed that those who knew her well believed her. but
faye tucker had to take the regret that she would never get a chance to
prove herself to her grave.

april

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        reply to:   re> amy responds to stomp & stammer cons review - long!

<<alright, everyone repeat after me, just because a reviewer doesn't like amy
and emily or their album, doesn't make them an idiot.>>

no it sure doesn't, and that certainly isn't what i was implying.  as amy said herself, the reviewer made some shallow assumptions about the indigo girls and the song faye tucker.  and his rebuttal is weak, saying "i just disagree with you on the death penalty matter."  no jeff, that's not all your review was saying.  he has every right to his opinion, but saying that the girls' political songs are shallow, and that it's "a consistent failing that the indigo girls would do well to overcome" without anything to back it up othr than the fact that he simply disagrees with their politics, and without fully understanding what the hell amy is trying to say in the song is, yes....idiotic.  so maybe i should have said that that part of the review was idiotic and not necessarily the *reviewer*, but his empty rebuttal, imho, enforces the latter.
peace,
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thought this might be of interest to the list.
~jennifer

<< ***coming soon - daemon radio***
we=e2=80=99re in the process of getting our first daemon radio hour togethe=
r.
amy will being hosting and since she=e2=80=99s on the road things are movin=
g a bit
slow. every month we=e2=80=99ll have a new hour of music hosted by amy or o=
ne of
our artists.  they=e2=80=99ll pick their favorite daemon songs as well as a=
few
other indie artists. all you do is click and listen.  thought you might
want to hear some good music while you=e2=80=99re stuck at your desk at wor=
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hey everyone

it's november already...can you believe it!  the year is almost over and
daemon will be 10 yrs. old.   we're startin' to feel a little old around
here...
here's the latest....

***the best of mrs fun***
daemon will be releasing the best of mrs fun on a national scale in
february but have decided to make it available to web and snail mail
orders now.  we just uploaded a groovy new page with all their info and
music.  this is some good stuff!  funky, jazzy, quirky.  they're about to
go on the road with the indigo girls in the midwest so keep an eye out if
you've got tickets.  amy and emily have played with them for years and
even do a little back-up on a song off this newest cd.


***justin hale - in formation***
daemon's first hip-hop band!  we just had the cd release party for this
last friday.  talk about a groovin' show!  mudfish from ph balance started
off by spinin' his favorite styles and then ph took the stage and we heard
some incredible new songs.  justin hale blew everyone away...not one
person was standing still! drop by our site and give this cd a listen.  we
know this is a bit different from what we usually do but that's what we're
all about.  this is music with a message...a
good message.  give it a try ya'll...you won't be able to stop dancing
long enough to tell us you love it.


***make a compilation cd for christmas***
head over to cductive.com and do a little different kind of daemon
shopping...make compilation cd's of all your favorite daemon songs and
give them as gifts. this is so cool and pretty cheap.  oh, and not to give
our sales away but cductive has some of the best indie label to choose
from.
http://www.cductive.com

***congratulation rose***
rose was awarded the sammy cahn lyricist award  from anascap
songwriters contest.  thanks goes out to sue devine and randy grimmet at
ascap for their support.

***link to us!!!***
hey, we're trying to get our name out there and we need your help.  we're
doing this the indie way.   the stimulator has just designed three really
cool banners that you can post on your site. post one or post them all!
we'll send you a daemon sticker for your support... just a little token.
look under "link us" or on the top of the message board.  spread the word!

***coming soon - daemon radio***
we're in the process of getting our first daemon radio hour together.
amy will being hosting and since she's on the road things are moving a bit
slow. every month we'll have a new hour of music hosted by amy or one of
our artists.  they'll pick their favorite daemon songs as well as a few
other indie artists. all you do is click and listen.  thought you might
want to hear some good music while you're stuck at your desk at work.

***stacey's liar***
hey - that stacey girl is ranting and raving in her liar again.  go see
what's on her mind this week.

***it's beginning to look a lot like xmas***
and  time to shop at daemon for all your christmas gifts!!!  just a
reminder to try and order early.  we usually ship book rate and this tends
to take awhile as the holidays roll around.  we do ship ups which is a bit
faster and not too much more in price.  if you need something special -
we'll see what we can do.

***new page***
the stimulator is in secret headquarters busy designing new pages and  his
newest upload is a page full of pictures. should be up soon.  we'll post
new pictures of the bands, fans, daemon events, whatever we can find.  if
you have a cool picture of a daemon band or something daemon related -
send it to us and we'll post it.  we won't be able to send it back though
so keep that in mind. you can send jpeg's but only one or two at a time
please.  downloading time...a bit long.

***new catalogs***
let us know if you know of someplace (clubs, dorms, coffee houses,
bookstores) that needs daemon catalogs.  we have a few extra and thought
this might help spread the word.  if you help us distribute we'll send you
a cdrom compilation or stickers.  be sure these locations will help though
- we only have a few extras right now.
just drop us an e-mail at hello@daemonrecords.com

well, we might bug you a few more times than usual in november  and
december. just reminders on shipping and orders etc.  we'll drop back to
the usual once a month in january.  just don't want anyone to get upset
that we are bombarding you with unwanted e-mails.  we try to be respectful
and mainly post things on our message board.

peace,
the daemon staff

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check out the site:
www.daemonrecords.com

music - http://www.daemonrecords.com/beta/music/music.html
(pages to all daemon releases and non-daemon artists we support)

cool - http://www.daemonrecords.com/beta/cool/cool.html
(message board, daemon gear, submit your demo, cool site of the month, and
links)

about - http://www.daemonrecords.com/beta/about/about.html
(story of daemon, notes from amy, carlaís show pick, staceyís lair, daemon
cares)

special - http://www.daemonrecords.com/beta/music/special/music3.html
our monthly special.

order - https://www.daemonrecords.com/beta/buy.html
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date:         tue, 9 nov 1999 18:27:10 -0800
reply-to:     "a. taub" <alisont@netcom.com>
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i got some good pictures at the san diego show, which i just posted to my
web site:

http://www.vimnews.com/ig/sdsu_oct99.html

take a look if you're interested,


alison

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date:         tue, 9 nov 1999 19:06:11 -0800
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ahh!!

my indigo moment for the day....

i'm checking out some stuff on my website and they had
a link to "the living edens: kakadu"  apparently there
was a special on pbs about it.

here's the link for anybody who's interested...
http://www.pbs.org/edens/kakadu/

indigo peace,
:p
tina

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emily did a phone interview today with kmtt 103.7 in seattle that i thought
ya's might be interested in hearing.  i am typing it out and am not the best
speller so forgive the typos and punctuation errors in advance.:)  sorry if
its too long for some, i just thought they did a good job of interviewing her
and thought some may be interested.
***************************************************************
kmtt-  emily, seattle loves you.
emily-  thats a beautiful thing.
kmtt-  (laughing) so the show is friday the 12 of november, this friday, and
you are
also doing a little pre show intimate concert for some mountain contest
winners during lunch time too.
emily-  thats right
kmtt-  top secret, much appreciated.
emily- sure
kmtt- emily the new cd, "come on now social", the last time we talked to you
guys i think it was just coming out, and its been just about a little over 10
years since your first album.  i didn't really realize this because i know
that when you first put that album out only stations like "the mountain" were
the only ones that really played the indigo girls, and now you are huge hits
up and down the radio dial.  but that first album sold like 2 million copies
and got you guys a grammee and you were like practically right out of college
right?
emily- yah thats right yah we were like 24 or 5 something like that
kmtt-  were you a little surprised by that back then?
emily-  we have been surprised by everything.  i mean it actually took us
awhile to sell 2 million copies of it.  but yah we were really surprised at
the success and early on rem kinda took us under their wing and they gave us
an opening leg on their tour
and that really helped and there were some things that gave us some momentum
early on but yah it was great
kmtt-  it always struck me that you guys, kinda like rem always have just
sorta done, you know, what you do and gone in different directions at various
points, but you never get the sence that you've really catered to any fad,
allthough you incorporate, you know, sounds and techniques from whatever's
happening currently in music. but you seem very lucky in that you have always
been able to just do what the indigo girls want to do and its worked.
emily-  i dont think that we would be able to just be ourselves and not be
able to do that, you know, it just comes naturally to us to just do our thing
and actually the record company has been good to not meddle in that, and you
know, we've never really had a radio hit. we dont really get played on the
radio. you all are very kind to us thank you. but we dont get played that
much we've never really had a top 40 hit so we are a grass roots band. we
keep our carreer going by touring and making the records we want to make and
there's alot of word of mouth, and you know, just gettin  out there on the
road alot. so thats the kind of band we are.
kmtt-  you know you've recorded with alot of big shots back in the 80's as
you said with michael stipe and what happens, i mean do you ring people like
jackson browne and joan osbourne and sheryl crow how do you guys work on that
collaboration thing?
emily-  we do ring them actually but first we meet them.  like lilith fair
was amazing because we got to meet so many great artists and sing with them
durring their sets and they sang with us during ours and so we just had this
comoradeship and when it came time to make the record we just called people
up and said do you want to come sing or play on the record and those who are
on the record said yes.
kmtt- are you saying that some people would say no emily?
emily-  not many people have said no actually umm bry cooter (sp?)said no
kmtt-  oh really?
emily-  a long time ago
kmtt-  was that for scheduling reasons or phylosophical reasons?
emily-  im not sure we didnt really ask him we just politely said ok..
kmtt- (laughing) sorry we bothered ya.
emily-  he is amazing but i think that was on our first record actually 10
years ago
kmtt-  so really the lilith fair experience for you was like a big networking
thing where you make new friends and then work them into your records.
emily-  yah it was fantastic.  i mean amy and i have always, even when we
were a bar band and making our own records before we got signed to epic, we
always had friends play with us on our sets and we always had guests come
play with us on our independent records, so its just that now we get to, umm,
hang out with people who are a little more well known, so.. but its just our
spirit.
kmtt-  you've been friends since grade school right?
emily-  yup
kmtt-  ok so is this a yin and a yang thing 'cause not many groups or
friendships last that long these days.
emily- i know i think it has to be 'cause we're really different, we write
different songs, we express ourselves differently, and have different
personalities, and i have alot of respect for amy. she's taught me alot and
she's a great person, and you know, i treasure our friendship.so for whatever
reason we've just been able to keep a balance going for all the years and its
still fun.
kmtt-  emily saliers is on the line with us from the indigo girls. so is this
true what we read that you live in the city and amy's more of a country girl?
emily- that's true
kmtt-  you sorta have different lifestyles?
emily-  that's true.. very true
kmtt-  so what do you do when you are not actively recording and rehearsing
or whatever, i mean do you get up and walk the dogs, or go to the movies, or
go to the gym or...
emily- the dog runs out in the back yard so i don't have to walk her, and i
love to work out, yup, i have like a personal trainer.... i like to play golf
kmtt-  yah? whats your handicapp?
emily- yup i suck im tellin ya i'm so bad i dont even have one!
kmtt- (laughing)but ya like it
emily- i love it!
kmtt- and you dont get pissed off when ya, you know shank a shot?
emily-  are you kidding!
kmtt-  so thats good so you have the right attitude then.
emily- oh beautiful day.  i like to hang out with my friends, and my parents,
and my family, im a pretty social person so... just relax
kmtt- yah you know my partner here mike is a golfer and i'm not, and it
always just seems to me like, you know, i love bein' out in the outdoors
too.. but i could get some real exercise while im doing it instead of just,
you know..... while if you play like emily and i you do get alot of exercise!
emily-  thats true (laughing) i dont play golf to get exercise thats for sure.
kmtt-  just the scenery itself is great just ot be out there is so cool.
emily-  oh its just fun you just get together with you buddies and nobody
cares you get to ride around in a little cart.
kmtt-  (laughing) do you drink beer emily?
emily-  you know i can't tell you this.. yes of course i do
kmtt-  ok your a golfer then!(laughing) well i  have to say i do have respect
for any sport you can play and consume an alcoholic beverage at the same
time.  bowling is in that same category.
emily-  there is a point of diminishing returns though you have to be careful
of that..
kmtt-  yah i've noticed that in bowling too, yah..  a sport where you can
drink and smoke and yet still play... ya gotta like that!  ahh allright emily
ahh what were gonna play off of this album now is, speaking of beer, "cold
beer and remote control"...
emily- allright
kmtt-  and ahh this is your song right?
emily-  yah it is, i didnt actually have one person in mind while i was
writing this song so i suppose it could be a man or a woman, but its just
about, you know becoming despondant and sorta giving up.  its meant to jerk
ya around a little bit because when people hear that line, "cold beer and
remote control", it makes them laugh, but then its like wait a minute this is
like serious subject matter so....
kmtt- yah powerful stuff..yah
emily- thank you
kmtt- well we're looking forward to having you back in seattle at mercer
arena friday night and i think people still might be able to buy tickets for
that..
emily- yah and a great band the butchies are gonna open the show and they are
formally some members of team dresch (sp?) and they are from the northwest so
they are a great band so catch them they are at 8:00.
kmtt- gosh that was my nickname when i was a kid butchie. ya now i really
have to go.
emily-  a cute name and they are a great band
kmtt-  emily thanks for checking in, and we will see you this friday
emily-  thanks ya'all bye!
kmtt- bye! and this is one of emilys songs, shes a golfer! who knew, i didnt,
this is one of her songs from the new cd " come on now social" on new music
tuesday, the indigos on 103.7fm  the mountain.

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date:         wed, 10 nov 1999 00:41:40 est
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heres my view of things, jeff was not an ig fan he never has been and never
will be, and unfortunetely here in oklahoma ig fans are few and far between
but damn it i'm tryin to change that! and i don't know why there aren't that
many fans here, there just isn't!! but, i know how non-ig lovers are, and
jeff is one...jeff likes all the trendy top 40 bullshit they play on the
radio, you know, those same repititous radio stations that play the same
freakin song over and over again!!! he doesn't know what lyrical content is,
he only knows he likes a good beat and "awesome" guitar riffs! that's why he
liked the "rockin" songs better than any of their other songs, thats also why
he reffered to the girls as "the same old ig stuff"! he's just another drop
of water in the endless sea of people that don't see the vision of why music
is made, it's made (and this is my humble opinion lol!) to envoke emotion and
feeling into people, it should make you wanna get up and dance, and make the
little hairs on your neck stand up, well thats what "the girls" do for us and
some people just don't get it, and never will because they want to go with
the concensus on what to listen to, turn on the corporate radio and not have
to use their minds............or then again he just might not like that type
of music...in any case thats just my trying to reason with why someone would
not like our ig! lol! take it easy y'all!


mandy :)
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date:         tue, 9 nov 1999 22:03:28 -0800
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hey y'all . . .

anyone who's interested in getting a tape copy of the november 4 radio
interview with amy and emily on kacd 103.1 los angeles, please let me know
asap, so i have an idea of how many tapes i'll need.  the interview's about
20 minutes long, and includes acoustic versions of "peace tonight" and "go."

battle on,
rhiannon silverflame, high priestess of the goddess emily saliers
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that's what keeps me going.  it pulls me in to work with someone who is so
drastically different from me but who i love so much . . .  even though
we've never gone out with each other, i think this is the significant
relationship of our lives." -- amy ray, on emily saliers

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date:         tue, 9 nov 1999 22:21:09 -0800
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i was just wondering if anyone knows who's opening either the portland
or eugene show...

thanks,
shannon

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>ember swift is a toronto based folk-punk musician (a lot like ani) and
>she is going to be doing a bunch of dates in the states.  i implore
>everyone to check her out.  she travels with a very talented and
>creative band and her live show is guarenteed to engage and entertain
>you, even if you have never heard her music before.
>
>yay!!! someone else who likes ember swift! (or even knows who the hell she
is ) i can't recomend her enough...this chick is awesome......sooooooooo
much energy...she is a lot like ani, i think it's safe to say if you dig ani
you'll like ember. she puts on an amazing show....she even did a really cool
cover of girls jsut wanna have fun that made me actually like the song. i
hadn't heard of her till this summer when i saw her at a little punk benefit
concert....i was totally blown away. her latest cd,permanent maker is really
good but you really should see her live. she's so cute in person to and she
seemed really sweet when i went and bought my cd from her. so yup. check her
out.   bron
"i can write a simple country song, simple love song, simple rock song,
simple pop song just to impress you. it takes no more than three chords and
no less. you are easy to impress, dear because these are the rules.
sometimes you gotta use the rules to show who's the fool here. " ember
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every once in a while, someone on the lists asks how the pink triangle and
rainbow flag came to be gay pride symbols.

if you go to this web site http://www.lambda.org/ and jump to the very
bottom, you'll see a rainbow flag.  click on it.  it tells you how all the
symbols came to be.  it tells about the bear symbol, the triangle and
explains why we have 6 colors in our rainbow instead of the typical 7
(roygbiv).

enjoy!
- jen mek

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chee wrote:
but if you do smoke "stuff" then their music is much clearer.  i'm not
endorsing smoking stuff at all!  i'm talking about my wild and loud days in
college.  all the women i know who smoke and like ig are way nice and cool.
all the men i know who smoke and do listen to floyd are a holes and either
don't admit they like ig or they just haven't heard the ig that i know and
love; they've been radioized.

cats on fire wrote:

>i don't smoke anything and i love both ig and pink floyd. but your'e right,
>it is kinda hard to dance to galileo. i was at the california shows, in san
>diego and the wiltern in hollywood. god, those were the best damn concerts
>i've ever been to. in san diego i had third row center, and there were
>girls
>dressed up as faeries, grooving to galileo. (well, it was halloween, what
>did
>you expect?) wow i just totally went off track there. but i will say one
>thing concerning the pink floyd/smoke thing: i never listen to current
>floyd,
>they were only good when roger waters was their lead singer. now they
>really
>kinda suck.

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blatent sexism disguised as igc?  as a man who has listened to floyd for
about as long as i can remember, and who bought ig's first cd the day it
was released (thanks to a wonderful "new artist" spot on my
then-favorite radio station), and who has indulged in smoke for the past
18 years (eek!), i find this statement, at best, shallow, as all
sweeping statements made about gender, race, sexual orientation, or any
other such factor tend to be.

(diagram that sentence for extra credit!)

-g

chee hill wrote:

> all the women i know who smoke and like ig are way nice and cool.
> all the men i know who smoke and do listen to floyd are a holes and either
> don't admit they like ig or they just haven't heard the ig that i know and
> love; they've been radioized.

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date:         thu, 11 nov 1999 00:49:57 +0900
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hey,

first of all, did anyone boot the berkeley shows?  i love getting  boots of the bay area shows.  i used to live there, and it always seems like a and e are in such good moods at those shows (the area is so awesome, it makes sense).

secondly, i am temporarily unsubbing because i leave for hokkaido tomorrow for the weekend.  if something pressing comes up (ie australian tour dates, or spring tour dates), please e-mail me privately!

thanks, y'all!!!

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>i know
>>amy has always stuck to her guns and never wavered about the death
penalty,
>>but do you think she could ever write a song like "faye tucker" about
>>someone who dragged a black man behind his pickup truck, or raped and
>>murdered dozens of kids?
>
>many prisoners -- men and women -- do become born-again christians, and the
>song could apply to them as it does to karla faye tucker. it does not
>absolve them of their crimes, but focuses on their attempts to become a
>socially acceptable human being. accepting them back into society would
>reflect a faith in humanism -- that the soul can be reclaimed for good. can
>we know if her conversion was genuine? we'll never be able to find out.
from
>what i've read, it seemed that those who knew her well believed her. but
>faye tucker had to take the regret that she would never get a chance to
>prove herself to her grave.


i don't think the song is about karla's "attempts to become a socially
acceptable human being," except in irony.  whether or not the person is a
serial killer, child molester, or whatever, and whether or not they're
penitent, amy believes that the death penalty is wrong.  it's the whole "two
wrongs don't make a right" thing again.

melissa.

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date:         wed, 10 nov 1999 08:45:01 -0800
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i believe the openers for the eugene and portland
shows are the butchies.  i know they are for portland,
not sure about eugene.
laurel
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not my favorite subject for my first post ever on this
list, but as it is, i may have an extra ticket to the
show in bellingham, wa.  as soon as i know for sure,
i'd be willing to sell it at face value to the first
spontaneous being on the list who would like to go to
the show.  the ticket is 12th row, amy's side and
costs $36 or so.  not too shabby.  i check my email
pretty regularly during the day but i'll be at work
from 1-8.:30p.m. (pst).  if you write i will get back
to you asap.  as i have no idea if my email would be
included with this post, here it is:
grrl_lee@yahoo.com   (boy, i hope i did this right)
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tina,

thanks for posting the interview!


lin

> emily did a phone interview today with kmtt 103.7 in seattle that i thought
> ya's might be interested in hearing.  i am typing it out and am not the best
> speller so forgive the typos and punctuation errors in advance.:)  sorry if
> its too long for some, i just thought they did a good job of interviewing her
> and thought some may be interested.

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it would be blatant sexism if chee had said all men who listen to floyd,
etc., but she said 'all the men i know', so unless we know the same
individuals, who are we to judge?

tim

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subject: re: dancing to ig


>blatent sexism disguised as igc?  as a man who has listened to floyd for
>about as long as i can remember, and who bought ig's first cd the day it
>was released (thanks to a wonderful "new artist" spot on my
>then-favorite radio station), and who has indulged in smoke for the past
>18 years (eek!), i find this statement, at best, shallow, as all
>sweeping statements made about gender, race, sexual orientation, or any
>other such factor tend to be.
>
>(diagram that sentence for extra credit!)
>
>-g
>
>chee hill wrote:
>
>> all the women i know who smoke and like ig are way nice and cool.
>> all the men i know who smoke and do listen to floyd are a holes and
either
>> don't admit they like ig or they just haven't heard the ig that i know
and
>> love; they've been radioized.
>
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> i believe the openers for the eugene and portland
> shows are the butchies.  i know they are for portland,
> not sure about eugene.

i also heard that the butchies are opening for the seattle show. don't
know for a fact, though.

bon

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so, my sister and i were dancing maniacally at the november 5th show at the
wiltern, which was awesome, btw, when my sister leans over to me and tells me
that she accidentally hit this woman who was sitting in front of her on the
head.  lemme tell you about these ladies...they were just lame...their vibe
was just yucky. anyway, about 10 mins later, during another rocking out song
when everyone else was standing, dancing, singing, loving it, i did the same
thing: i accidentally hit this woman on her head, and she was just so
uptight...i apologized profusely, of course, but she was just not feeling the
indigo love, i guess...i just went on dancing.  i can't understand it at all,
and i can't imagine ever doing it...but these ladies got up and left in the
middle of the show...i'm sure they both didn't appreciate getting knocked
upside the head by a couple of ig freaks like us....but to leave?
unthinkable!!

cindy  <------- who can dance to pretty much anything :)

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cindy marie wrote:

> ...i'm sure they both didn't appreciate getting knocked
> upside the head

ya think?

>....but to leave? unthinkable!!

leave???? and miss the sheer enjoyment of getting jostled around?  the
nerve.  oh, how could they.  what true fan wouldn't tolerate getting hit
and cajoled and pushed around by other fans?  i mean, that's the fun of
going to a live show, isn't it?

sarcastically yours,

elaine (who hopes i never encounter anyone who obliviously knocks me
around at a concert)

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damn...i guess now i have to defend myself and my sister...the only time we
touched them was when we accidentally hit their heads...they were sitting
while everyone was standing, and they were right in front of us...we tried to
be very careful, and we were sorry...but they were just not having any fun at
all, and i know we didn't help, but it was a frekking accident...i even was
singing with my hand over my mouth so as not to bother them with that.

cindy

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well, ya can't (and you shouldn't) stop anyone from crying, or laughin', or
singin' or dancing....and everybody grooves to their own beat.

however, maybe the women in front of you just didn't want to move or couldn't
dance for whatever reason...just cuz they didn't dance doesn't mean that
their "vibe" was yucky...gotta dance a mile in their moccasins and smoke from
their peace pipe before you can really comment on what is going on within
them.

i was at that concert and was mildly annoyed by a guy who stood directly in
front of me and insisted on dancing throughout the whole show, even when the
rest of the peeps in the general vicinity (the mezzanine) were sitting down.
frankly, i, and the others who were sitting with and around us, thought this
"dancing machine" was quite rude, inconsiderate, and selfish. (one woman
behind me kept referring to him as "the rubberband man..." ~ made me laugh!)
he could have danced in the aisles, but we could only sit in our seats....
oh well, part of the concert going experience.  it's a "let it go" thing.
nonetheless, i personally would appreciate being surrounded by people at
concerts who are considerate of the others around them.  in a perfect world,
perhaps.

just my 2 pennies.

peace ~

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well, hell, maybe this pair had stuff going on like you couldn't have
possibly known about.  maybe they had a fight at dinner.  maybe they had run
into an ex-gf at a concert and the subsequent attention and conversation
made the other jealous.  maybe they were just mad at each other for some
reason, and the situation just went from bad to worse by the surrounding
happy people.  maybe they were expecting the 'land of caanan' ig and they
got the 'shed your skin' ig instead.  who knows.  but hey, accidents happen,
you apologized, sincerely i take it, and that should suffice.

i hit a lady sitting in front of me at a va tech football game once,
apologized profusely, but she was really nasty to me and said not a word,
just gave me a dirty look.  we scored, i jumped, hit her head - what could i
do?  some things just move us to the point where we have to be physical, and
bystanders are often casualties, no matter how careful you are.

-tara

ps - sometimes, i dance at ig concerts hoping to god the people in front of
me keep standing and dancing so that i don't have to be 'rubberband boy'
myself.

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on november 13 @ 7 pm pst (that is 4 hours later for you right coasters) kmtt will rebroadcast the ig bumbershoot show.

get your tapes ready...you'll are getting a load out there, aren't you? :)

jude :)

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voices on the verge shows
this is  a historic opportunity to see rose polenzani, jess klein, erin
mckeown, and beth amsel perform together as you have never seen them before
(unless you caught last winters tour...).  the energy and and concentration
of talent here is amazing!!  they're pretty funny, too.  i plan on being at
the providence, northampton and somerville shows.....

*****  check out www.erinmckeown.com and www.jessklein.com and
www.rosepolenzani.com  *****

saturday, november 13, 9pm
bryn mawr, pa
the point, 880 west lancaster
venue phone/tickets: $7.00/610.527.0988

sunday, november, 14th, 8:30pm
arlington, va
iota, 2832 wilson blvd.
venue phone/tickets: 703.522.8340

tuesday, november 16, 9am
wers radio show 88.7fm  (boston)

wednesday, november 17, 9pm
providence, ri
as220, 115 empire st
venue phone/tickets: 401.831.9327

thursday, november 18, 7pm
northampton, ma
iron horse, 20 center st
tickets: 1-800-the-tick

saturday, november 20, 7pm
somerville, ma
big big somerville theater show, davis square.  get yout tickets asap!
(617) 628-3390
tickets: 617.628.3390/$16.50 & 15.50
w /special guests lori mckenna, faith soloway, kris delmhorst

sunday, november 21, 10pm
new york, ny
the living room, 84 stanton ave

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i don't know how i managed this, but i was able to swing a business trip
to mn the same week as the ig concert in minneapolis... the plans were
just finalized. i went onto ticketmast yesterday, and all they had left
were single tickets in the balcony - way far back. i just went on again
and i bought:

29th row dead center!!!! on the floor!!!!!

go figure...

so anyhow.... :)

just wanted to brag. is there going to be a list meet or anything before
the show? are there any other ig-related events the weekend of 12/4?

let me know!!!!

love,
amy

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oh damn i wish i was gonna be there.

just thinking about the butchies brightens my little cube
farmer day.

kc
> i believe the openers for the eugene and portland
> shows are the butchies.  i know they are for portland,
> not sure about eugene.
> laurel
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>i hit a lady sitting in front of me at a va tech football game once,

(hey tara - do you get to any of the va tech games now? wish i could go to
a few of those - great team!)  i kinda expect at football games to get hit
and also to have horns blown loudly in my ear, food or drinks spilled on
me, people stepping over me, to be too cold or too hot, hmm what else?  -
it just comes with the territory! that lady who was mad about being hit
should have watched the game on tv!

as far as ig concerts go, i guess those expectations vary. i have a friend
who used to go to ig concerts with me, but he's less excited about it now
because he really likes to sit at concerts and hear the artist perform. he
likes ig a lot, has all their cds, but just doesn't get into the audience
participation type of concert. i _love_ the audience participation part of
ig shows. that's what makes them so special to me! it's a big ole rockin',
dancin' sing-along! but if someone near me prefers to sit i do try not to
obstruct their view, get in their way, etc... if i am seated among a
majority of sitters, i also try to respect that and i curtail my style a
bit (i sit in my seat, dance in my mind). we are interdependent in these
public situations afterall! but i think if i were a sitter and everyone
else were dancing, i'd expect to get bumped a few times... we all gotta
give a little.

-sue

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the butchies are opening for the girls all over the midwest.

anyways, hi! i am new to the list. i was once a great and fun loving member of
alt.music.indigo-girls, but alas and alack, that is no more for me. the plus
side is that i already know who is amy and who is emily...

mer

bonster <bonster@drizzle.com> wrote:
i believe the openers for the eugene and portland
> shows are the butchies.  i know they are for portland,
> not sure about eugene.

i also heard that the butchies are opening for the seattle show. don't
know for a fact, though.

bon

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i just wanted to recap, for anyone interested, listmeet today at cucina
cucina acroos the street from the rose garden at 6pm... dinner,
chatting, what have you... i have dark red, curly, ~shortish hair, and
will be wearing a white 3/4 sleeve shirt, w/ a silver jacket (that will
probably be off in the restaurant, but whatever...)

i hope to see plenty of you there... =)

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hey there all--
i don't have the time to write about my interview w/them yet, but, i will
tell you this right now:  the line in sister is:

"i am just a farmer with a milk cow and a mess."---emily told me so :)

otherwise, the interview was so rad it's unbelievable!  it was only supposed
to be 10 minutes, and we got 35!  very casual and they were really easy to
talk to.  ok, that's all for now...i'll write more later.  thanks for all
your suggestions :)

peace and ig love,
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lisa,

i very much appreciated this post.  found it fascinating, actually.  i read,
and re-read, the review, amy's letter, and then jeff's reply, and all i can
say is..."he don't get it."

in the review, his choice to focus on,  and address the implications of,
"faye tucker" was quite  extraordinary, as there are so many  songs and
issues that are equally prevalent and relevant on cons.  obviously, he had
political jerky to gnaw, perhaps about an issue eroding his soul, and for
some odd reason, jeff selected cons to expound on his personal philosophy of
the death penalty.   very odd...when i was in college, back in the 70's, i
would have failed my journalism class had i written such a blatantly
self-absorbed review.   faye tucker is a song which eloquently expresses
amy's opinions ~ it was not written as fodder for a disgruntled critic to
attack personal beliefs.  had jeff been performing in the function of a true
critic, he would have addressed [either favorably or unfavorably] the
haunting melody and the well chosen and superbly crafted lyrics amy employs
to make her point. he would have used quotes from the lyrics and examples of
the music to back his review.  he flunked, in my opinion.

i also grow weary of those critics who love to hurl assaults at "folk"
musicians....i tire of reading statements like, "in the genre of predecessors
like young and dylan..." (quote nowhere near exact, but i have read similar
statements before), as if young and dylan and all other so-dubbed "folkies"
cower to the real "rockers" out there, as if folk music is somehow
"secondary"  because of its ability to undress the psyche and touch and warm
our emotions, as opposed to just nailing a great guitar rift.

just my simple opinion, but i will add that i thought amy's retort was
poignant, honorable, and classy.

that review was a classic example of how not to write a critique.

peace to all ~

vicki  "yes,  i am effusive, but damn, some people just don't get the
passion" stein

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whenever people offer tickets thet seem to mention if
it's on 'amy's side' or 'emily's side'. do the indigo
girls play in the same formation every single concert?
is amy always to our left/her right? this seems kind
of strange to me. how long did it take people to
notice? or have they specifically talked about it in
an interview?

jon/jack/turtle
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in a message dated 99-11-10 19:30:56 est, you write:

<< whenever people offer tickets thet seem to mention if
it's on 'amy's side' or 'emily's side'. do the indigo
girls play in the same formation every single concert?>>

yep   for the most part they do


<< is amy always to our left/her right?>>

she stands on our left side, emily on the right   :)

<< this seems kind of strange to me.>>

lol    it would be strange if they didnt stand that way!   :)

<< how long did it take people to notice? or have they specifically talked
about it in an interview? >>

not that i know, it would be funny if they switched sides to see if the
realfans tm would notice    :)


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if you go to mike cunningham's ig tour schedule and click on the venue (if it
is highlighted) sometimes they list the openers...

hope this helps.

jude :)

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><< how long did it take people to notice? or have they specifically talked
>about it in an interview? >>
>

actually, they did talk about this in an interview segment that you can see
on the watershed video (i think at the end).

the interviewer asked them how they chose their sides. they both said it
was a great question that they'd never been asked before. amy thought she
might have started on her side because the soundboard was on her side and
she used to do the sound. then emily pointed out that the soundboard was
actually on her side, so that couldn't be it. amy joked that she might have
taken her side because it was closest to the tip jar. they concluded that
there was no reason why they have sides; they just do.

guess that's it!
-sue

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i don't know why i get the ubl newsletter but i just
saw this:

> 1. log on to webcasts: korn, coal chamber, slipknot,
> dope, indigo girls
> let it go on forever! webcast fever starts with a
> slow burn: the indigo
> girls, an encore webcast scheduled for sat. nov. 13,
> 7pm pst.

the link they gave was for
http://www.indigogirlsdirect.com (i thought they just
sold stuff there).  i have no idea what webcast
they're talking about.

lori ann (who remembers wanting to say something to
the list but can't remember what)


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in a message dated 11/10/99 12:40:29 pm pacific standard time,
vickistein@aol.com writes:

> nonetheless, i personally would appreciate being surrounded by people at
>  concerts who are considerate of the others around them.  in a perfect
world,
>  perhaps.

i agree completely.  it really comes down to common courtesy since you don't
always know why the people around you are sitting.  on saturday night at the
berkeley show, my friend and i were about mid-floor center.   most of the
people on the floor chose to stand through a lot of the show and the friend i
was with could only stand for short periods of time.  she ended up having to
sit while the people around her stood, making it impossible for her to see.
she was understanding but i felt really bad for her...she ended up missing a
lot.

our solution...we traded our floor seats for sunday's show for balcony seats.
  the people in the balcony were very considerate for the most part.  if they
wanted to dance, and many did, they went to the aisle behind the people that
chose to sit.  i thought that was cool.

sue

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two ig things: (yeah!)

fyi: the virginia based music store....plan 9 has a monthly free magazine. this month indigo
girls are on the cover...and there is a 3 page interview with amy included.....i would love you
all to read it, but i am a horrible typist...so this was my thought. for anyone who wants a copy
(within reason---i can't go and steal 300 copies of their magazine!!) then e-mail me....and i
will go grab a stack of them.....i will offer this to the first twenty responses....and if there
are a few more than that....i will oblige...but really, i don't need to be known as the ig freak
(actually....my apartment already has spread those rumours...), so i may depending on how many
weird looks i get limit the amount! i will offer this with two conditions....anyone else living
in the virginia, who is near a plan 9 must offer if there is a large response....and you must
come up with a way to reimburse me for postage ($1?? i am guessing at the amount---send me a
boot (i don't have any), a cool e-mail, a song and dance.....just a dollar.....whatever, i
really cannot affored to send this magazine to everyone (me=poor college student!)---though, if
you are in the same situation, i will do it gratis...cause i understand). so, there is that
little tidbit----
        one other---slightly longer (sorry,---digest people, please forgive me!)

this was an also an article in my weekly school magazine (two weeks ago??). the newsmagazine,
the declaration, tends to do some really random articles...and i love them for it. i thought you
would be interested to read it....it focuses on ani---and ig....and their music. the web page is
easier to read, but i put the text below in case you were interested.

happy warm weather to all, meg

http://www.the-declaration.com/1999/10_21/features/femme.shtml

it's up against femme
the straight up on lesbian rock

        so, if you haven't taken active notice, there's something of a phenomenon running
through college campuses and other selected environments these days, taken part in by a certain
and distinct few: it's called lesbian rock. as far as i know, lesbian rock is not an already
coined term and thus, it is
            mine. if you ever use it in a paper or something, all credit goes to me. if it were to
            be defined, lesbian rock would be: anything written or performed (or perhaps
            even produced) by lesbians, anything written for or listened to by lesbians, or
            any music that those who don't know it would automatically associate with
            lesbianism -- or with feminism and misogyny, depending on your audience. and,
            by definition, it is something which all men should hate. gotcha.

            just kidding. actually, by definition, it is something which the narrow and
            closed-minded and, unfortunately, the ignorant as well, fear by its very existence.
            my fellow americans, regarding the strong and growing phenomenon of lesbian
            rock music and performance, you have nothing to fear -- ummmm -- you have little
            to fear, except fear itself.

            in the last two weeks, both the indigo girls and ani difranco -- the former being
            a group comprised of two lesbians, and the latter being a very outspoken bisexual
            performer who writes about women's issues -- played at college campuses near
            here -- at george mason university on october 8 and at virginia tech on october
            12. each put on a fun show with inspired music. both played new songs off their
            new albums because, after a decade of professional music making for each, each
            one is still going strong. each show was attended by an enthusiastic following of
            loyal supporters who, incidentally, did not leave disappointed.

            nevertheless, both shows were fairly empty and attended by very few men. lots
            of men (and some women) were scared off. most men i invited (ranging from the
            narrow to the closed-minded to the ignorant) did not want to go to a "lesbian
            concert." most everyone i told that i was going questioned either my interest, my
            belonging, or my understanding and willingness to be there -- "do you know the
            sort of crowd that's going to be there?"

            this doesn't happen when i go to non-lesbian rock concerts -- no one warns me
            about dave matthews crowds or guster crowds or even woodstock crowds (and
            people get raped there) -- and that's the important distinction between lesbian
            rock and other rock.

            but this distinction is made not only between lesbian rock and other rock. this
            phenomenon of being warned to fear the attendees was far more true of the ani
            show than it was of the indigo show, implying two sub-genres in lesbian rock:
            angry and friendly. based on my personal experience, i can tell you that, for many
            men, going to an ani difranco show is more frightening and intimidating than
            going to an indigo girls show, although both are far worse than attending a
            metallica show (or even an edwin mccain show for that matter).

            this is not without reason. any lesbian rock performance is inherently
            frightening for a few reasons. any large room of strangers filled with decidedly
            more women than men is a very intimidating atmosphere for a man; it's just not
            something that he is used to. and, if the crowd present is predominantly lesbian
            (or perceived to be so), the fear grows exponentially. even if you think you're
            comfortable with lesbianism and support it, you likely aren't confronted with it on
            a mass scale and, if due only to unfamiliarity or your own very blatant "outsider"
            status, you'll probably be intimidated. and, of course, there is the very natural
            (unfounded?) fear that certain members of the audience (or even the performers
            themselves) are angry man-haters and therefore people to avoid.

            so don't get me wrong: this is genuinely scary stuff, but it's the angry lesbian
            rock that's really, really intimidating; it's the ani difranco shows, with overt
            social agendas of fighting patriarchy, that frighten men and even women. it is
            these shows which men find too frightening to attend because it's feminist music
            about hating men (this is a far more serious offense than being "girlie"). this
            distinction between angry lesbian rock and friendly lesbian rock is why more
            people were outraged that i was going to an ani concert than were that i was
            going to an indigo girls concert; it's why few people support this music and why
            this music isn't mainstream and perhaps never will be -- not that it ever really
            wanted to be anyway.

            here's the deal though: that's not ani's music. ani's music is not feminist music
            about hating men. it is not music to fear. go online and read the lyrics or go to
            plan 9 and listen to an album; you probably won't be offended (very often).

            in fact, until seeing ani's opening act, bitch and animal, last tuesday, i wasn't
            sure that anti-man music really existed. bitch and animal were all that and more.
            bitch and animal, professing the rise of woman through, and only through, the
            destruction of or complete independence from men, complained about social
            injustice, as committed only unto women, and its solutions, as were appropriate
            specifically to them -- thanks guys, big help. they actually were an act that, lack
            of talent and all, just got up on stage and complained, offering no solution to any
            of their stated problems outside of self-segregation and intentionally making all
            men, if not all people in the audience, feel uncomfortable. it was an act that was
            entertaining at best and offensive at worst (or was it the other way around?).
            bitch and animal, men, are the ones to be afraid of.

            but not all of them are. most of them aren't. and ani isn't. like most socially
            conscious artists (only better), ani has a social agenda based in positivity. in her
            own words, by fighting the "right-wing, hard-hearted, christian ... terrorists," and
            along the way fighting the patriarchy and homophobia, ani is working to try to
            make society better. all of which is not to say that she doesn't also have her
            personal songs, her race-inspired -- as opposed to gender-inspired -- songs, or

            even her silly little songs. the mass sum of all of this is, unless you're a terrorist,
            a homophobe, or a misogynist, you shouldn't have any problem with ani's
            messages. and, incidentally, whether or not you like her music, ani is a
            tremendous musician and a phenomenal lyricist. so, i assert there is nothing to
            fear about her music, but there's always a little something to learn.

            that established, equally important is that ani's concerts are nothing to fear
            either. all preconceptions and misconceptions aside, ani's crowds are always
            rather friendly and very enthusiastic, even if they are pierced, high, and lesbian.
            this is not to say that they're all giggles though. they don't dislike you (you
            being the guy who goes to an ani show), but they dislike something about
            society, and they're here to find other people who dislike it. (if everything goes
            rightly, you're one of them.)

            indigo crowds are rather different. they should be; after all, the indigo girls don't
            write music about a matriarchal revolution; they're friendly lesbian rock, not angry
            lesbian rock. not to say that the indigo girls don't have a social agenda; they do.
            but their social agenda does not deal overwhelmingly with patriarchal issues and
            their concerts are not simply voicing stations for the upset. indigo concerts are
            nothing but happy and friendly. still a frightening place for a man to go?
            potentially. but only in so far as he could make himself uncomfortable. because
            the venue itself is nothing but welcoming.

            music that deals overtly with patriarchal issues is inherently less friendly than
            that which doesn't, if only because what is focused on love in the one, is focused
            on productivity and improvement -- but not anger -- in the other. when the
            indigo girls don't deal overtly with patriarchal issues, they allow all of their fans'
            energy to be devoted to the music and to one another. when ani deals very
            overtly with patriarchal issues, she forces her fans to focus their energy on
            negative societal problems and, of course, their potential solutions. this is a less
            friendly environment, but it is far from antagonistic.

            the result is kind of a funny one that you don't notice right off. the indigo girls
            create, wherever they go, little ideal societies, of open-minded, supportive,
            musical, friendly, and happy people ... except that there are underrepresented
            populations of men. everything that ani could ever want from society, she would
            find at an indigo girls concert ... except that there is an underrepresented
            population of men. this is probably why ani appears at the indigo
            girls-headlined newport folk festival. (they said the lilith fair was where this
            open-minded happiness was supposed to reach a head; it was certainly fun, but it
            wasn't any ideal society of open-mindedness. they promised that woodstock
            would be the peak; nah-ah.) no, the place to go is newport, rhode island, for one
            weekend every summer; the weekend where everybody gets together and is just
            nice to one another. and, when ben and jerry sponsor it, it's damn near perfect ...
            except that there is always an underrepresented population of men.

            so, you men out there, and women too, i promise that, if you are open-minded,
            there is nothing to be afraid of at any of these concerts, bitch and animal shows
            excluded. if you're looking to forget about all of the problems and live in peace for
            a short period of time, check out an indigo girls show. if you're looking to get a
            little bit pissed off about everything bad about patriarchal society that we're in,
            check out an ani show. i don't really know which is the better way to deal with
            the problem -- it's a lot like the question of whether it's better to just be happy or
            to know that you shouldn't be happy at all. i don't know the answer; but i know
            that i can get a taste of each when i go to both an ani show and an indigo show.
            there's always a lot of good going on at rock and roll concerts. so let lesbian rock
            -- remember, it's my term, mine -- continue to thrive on college campuses and in
            other selected (major) cities; let it expand to the smaller cities, towns, and villages,
            and let it expand to your room by letting yourself become a part of it -- i promise
            it's safe. (just let yourself become a part of it after i've already gotten my ticket to
            the next show.) because dealing with social injustice is good, rock and roll music
            is good, and lesbian rock combines the two into something that's pretty damn
            good, too.

                                                       21 october 1999

            alex brandes is a third-year modern studies major who always did love that
            little dutch boy.
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hey meg! thanks for posting that article about lesbian rock - that was fun
to read. very cool author. i think he's painting ig as a little too "happy"
vs. "angry" (did he not listen to go?!), but i like the ideas. lots of good
stuff about the guys' pov when attending majority female (and of them,
majority lesbian) concerts.

i really liked this:
>the indigo girls create, wherever they go, little ideal societies, of
> open-minded, supportive, musical, friendly, and happy people ...
>except that there are underrepresented populations of men. everything
>that ani could ever want from society, she would find at an indigo girls
concert ...

-s.

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kelly,

did you by any chance, tape this?


on wed, 10 nov 1999, kelly stewart wrote:

> hey there all--
> i don't have the time to write about my interview w/them yet, but, i will
> tell you this right now:  the line in sister is:
>
> "i am just a farmer with a milk cow and a mess."---emily told me so :)
>
> otherwise, the interview was so rad it's unbelievable!  it was only supposed
> to be 10 minutes, and we got 35!  very casual and they were really easy to
> talk to.  ok, that's all for now...i'll write more later.  thanks for all
> your suggestions :)
>
> peace and ig love,
> kelly
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---i wrote that the ubl newsletter wrote:
> > webcast fever starts with a
> > slow burn: the indigo
> > girls, an encore webcast scheduled for sat. nov.
> 13,
> > 7pm pst.

hey, what do they mean "a slow burn?"  how rude.

lori (who still doesn't remember what she wanted to
say)


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ok, people. i'm coming out as cindy's sister. i hit a person on the head at
an ig concert. thank you to whoever defended us. umm, i just wanna say that
it wasn't just cindy who thought their vibe was yucky, i thought so too. so
did people around us. anyway, i don't think it was us hitting them on their
heads that made them leave. it couldn't have been, because i barely hit the
chick at all. both times were complete accidents, and, as my sister said, we
apologized sincerely. also, it wasn't at a time when everyone was sitting and
i was dancing; they were the only ones sitting at the time. honestly, if that
happened to me, i would laugh:) so would everyone i know. maybe that's
because i don't surround myself with bitter people, i don't know. all i know
is that i feel like i need to defend myself when i shouldn't. it was an
honest mistake. i know there are very few people who give a rat's ass about
this, so if you got this far, thanx for listening:)

smiles everyone:)

pax, celeste:)

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for quite some time, i kept an eye out for when the indigo girls would be
coming to an area near me.  well, i found out they would be in columbus
on saturday, december 11, in dayton on monday, december 13, and in
louisville on tuesday, december 14.  the latter two dates coincide with
finals week.  a friend that is going with me has a final on monday night
and i have a final on tuesday night, so we decided to get tickets for the
columbus show on saturday.

(yeah, i know you're probably bored at this point...)

anyway, i go to my class last night, and the prof. asks if the class
would object to taking our final exam earlier in the day.  guess
why.....she wants to go the louisville show!  i laughed heartily....and
at least now i know this prof. has at least one redeeming
quality....she's an ig fan!!  woo-hoo!


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roger waters, who wrote the lyrics for pink floyd from meddle through the
final cut, left floyd precisely because of what chee was saying. the fans
seemed to be there to party and be obnoxious and cared nothing about the
things roger did...of course, there are we few who appreciate the genius of
roger waters and were sorry to see him go.  my favorite band is ig but floyd
is good in a different way.  btw, i do not smoke anything. :o)
pax
vesper

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meg,

excellent article!  thanks for posting it....

peace,
tim

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someone recently posted that they had eugene tickets for sale and i was
delete happy at the time because i didn't think that i would be able to make
the concert.  but after tonight's portland show - we've decided we have to
make the trek down to eugene.  so can the person who offered these tickets
please email me privately and let me know if they are still available.

thanks!
ann

ps - the portland show was awsome - highlights included "love will come to
you" and "johnny rotten"
the girls were in great moods and invited us all to go on the road with us
and even offered to feed all of us if we paid for our own transportation -
too cute!

anyways - that's all i can say for now - i'm sure someone will post a set
list and a detailed review later!  i'm off to have sweet indigo dreams!

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hi all,

a couple of weeks back we were discussing how some of the same themes are
presented in ig's songs over time and how they change a little with the
years.....i think i'm talking about po2 and get out the map etc  (bear
with me i'm tired from some pain killers at the moment, sorry)
anyways, i've been thinking that cold beer and remote control is a 90's
take on make it easier, thematically.  mie is the younger "i'm in search
of greener pastures" and cbarc is the middle age/older "all of my days
have been mispent".  while mie is searching for something/one to help
cbarc is basically accepting being "stuck in the middle" and finding
solace in the little pleasures - beer and tv!
even some of the lyrics - both talk about the impossible american dream or
american success story...there's other similarities but i'm too fuzzy to
think of them right now.

i hope this has made sense to someone and isn't too boring,

maddie (who wishes she wasn't allergic to spider bites!)

btw i can't wait to dance at an ig concert - but i'll try and do it in the
isle cause i'll be sure to bash some poor soul on the head too!

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>  >  >the government of afghanistan is waging a war upon
>  > women. since the
>  >  >taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear
>  > burqua and have been
>  > beaten and stoned in public for not having the
>  > proper attire, even if this
>  > means simply not having the mesh covering in front
>  > of their eyes.
>  >
>  >  >one woman was beaten to death by an angry mob of
>  > fundamentalists for
>  >  >accidentally exposing her arm while she was
>  > driving. another was stoned to
>  >
>  > death for trying to leave the country with a man
>  > that was not a relative.
>  >  >
>  >  >women are not allowed to work or even go out in
>  > public without a male
>  >  >relative; professional women such as professors,
>  > translators, doctors,
>  > lawyers, artists and writers have been forced from
>  > their jobs and stuffed
>  > into their homes, so that depression is becoming so
>  > widespread that it has
>  > reached emergency levels.
>  >  >
>  >  >there no way in such an extreme islamic society to
>  > know the suicide rate
>  >  >with certainty, but relief workers are estimating
>  > that  the suicide rate
>  > among women, who cannot find proper medication and
>  > treatment for severe
>  > depression and would rather take their lives than
>  > live in such conditions,
>  > has increased significantly.
>  >
>  >  >homes where a woman is present must have their
>  > windows painted so that
>  >  >she can never be seen by outsiders. they must wear
>  > silent shoes so that
>  > they are never heard.  women live in fear of their
>  > lives for the slightest
>  > misbehavior. because they cannot work, those without
>  > male relatives or
>  > husbands are either starving to death or begging on
>  > the street, even if they
>  >
>  > hold ph.d.'s.
>  >  >
>  >  >there are almost no medical facilities available
>  > for women, and relief
>  >  >workers, in protest, have mostly left the country,
>  > taking  medicine and
>  > psychologists and other things necessary to treat
>  > the sky-rocketing level of
>  >
>  > depression among women.  at one of the rare
>  > hospitals for women, a reporter
>  > found still, nearly lifeless bodies lying motionless
>  > on top of beds, wrapped
>  >
>  > in their burqua, unwilling to speak, eat, or do
>  > anything, but slowly wasting
>  >
>  > away.
>  >  >
>  >  >others have gone mad and were seen crouched in
>  > corners, perpetually
>  >  >rocking or crying, most of them in fear. one
>  > doctor is considering, when
>  > what little medication that is left finally runs
>  > out, leaving these women in
>  >
>  > front of the president's residence as a form of
>  > peaceful protest.  it is at
>  > the point where the term 'human rights violations'
>  > has become an
>  > understatement.
>  >
>  >  >husbands have the power of life and death over
>  > their women relatives,
>  >  >especially their wives, but an angry mob has just
>  > as much right to stone
>  > or
>  > beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch
>  > of flesh or offending
>  > them
>  > in the slightest way.
>  >  >
>  >  >women enjoyed relative freedom, to work, dress
>  > generally as they wanted,
>  >  >and drive and appear in public alone until only
>  > 1996. the rapidity of this
>  >
>  > transition is the main reason for the depression and
>  > suicide; women who were
>  >
>  > once educators or doctors or simply used to basic
>  > human freedoms are now
>  > severely restricted and treated as sub-human in the
>  > name of right-wing
>  > fundamentalist islam. it is not their tradition or
>  > 'culture', but is alien
>  > to
>  > them, and it is extreme even for those cultures
>  > where fundamentalism is the
>  > rule.
>  >  >
>  >  >everyone has a right to a tolerable human
>  > existence, even if they are
>  >  >women in a muslim country. if we can threaten
>  > military  force in kosovo in
>  >
>  > the name of human rights for the sake of ethnic
>  > albanians, citizens of the
>  > world can certainly express peaceful outrage at the
>  > oppression, murder and
>  > injustice committed against women by the taliban.
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >statement: in signing this, we agree that the
>  > current treatment of women
>  > in
>  > afghanistan is completely unacceptable and deserves
>  > support and action by
>  > the
>  > united nations and that the current situation
>  > overseas will not be
>  > tolerated.
>  > women's  rights is not a small issue anywhere and it
>  > is unacceptable for
>  > women in 1999 to be treated as sub-human and as so
>  > much property.  equality
>  > and human decency is a right not a freedom, whether
>  > one lives in afghanistan
>  >
>  > or elsewhere.
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >>1) suzanne dathe, grenoble, france
>  >  >>2) laurence comparat, grenoble,france
>  >  >>3) philippe motte, grenoble, france
>  >  >>4) jok ferrand, mont st martin, france
>  >  >>5) emmanuelle pignol, st martin d'heres, france
>  >  >>6) marie gauthier, grenoble, france
>  >  >>7) laurent vescalo, grenoble,france
>  >  >>8) mathieu moy, st egreve, france
>  >  >>9) bernard blanchet, mont st martin, france
>  >  >>10) tassadite favrie, grenoble, france
>  >  >>11) loic godard, st ismier, france
>  >  >>12) benedicte pascal, grenoble, france
>  >  >>13) khedaidja benatia, grenoble, france
>  >  >>14) marie-therese lloret, grenoble,france
>  >  >>15) benoit theau, poitiers, france
>  >  >>16) bruno constantin, poitiers, france
>  >  >>17) christian cognard, poitiers, france
>  >  >>18) robert gardette, paris, france
>  >  >>19) claude chevillard, montpellier, france
>  >  >>20) gilles freiss, montpellier, france
>  >  >>21) patrick augereau, montpellier, france.
>  >  >>22) jean imbert, marseille, france
>  >  >>23) jean-claude murat, toulouse, france
>  >  >>24) anna bassols, barcelona, spain
>  >  >>25) mireia dunach, barcelona, spain
>  >  >>26) michel villaz, grenoble, france
>  >  >>27) pages frederique, dijon, france
>  >  >>28) rodolphe fischmeister, chatenay-malabry,
>  > france
>  >  >>29) francois bouteau, paris, france
>  >  >>30) patrick peter, paris, france
>  >  >>31) lorenza radici, paris, france
>  >  >>32) monika siegenthaler, bern, switzerland
>  >  >>33) mark philp, glasgow, scotland
>  >  >>34) tomas andersson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>35) jonas eriksson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>36) karin eriksson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>37) ake ljung, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>38) carina sedlmayer, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>39) rebecca uddman, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>40) lena skog, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>41) micael folke, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>42) britt-marie folke, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>43) birgitta schuberth, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>44) lena dahl, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>45) ebba karlsson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>46) jessica carlsson, vaxjo, sweden
>  >  >>47) sara blomquist, vaxjo, sweden
>  >  >>48) magdalena fosseus, vaxjo, sweden
>  >  >>49) charlotta langner, goteborg, sweden
>  >  >>50) andrea egedal, goteborg, sweden
>  >  >>51) lena persson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>52) magnus linder, umea ,sweden
>  >  >>53) petra olofsson, umea, sweden
>  >  >>54) caroline evenbom, vaxjo, sweden
>  >  >>55) asa pettersson, grimsas, sweden
>  >  >>56) jessica bjork, grimsas, sweden
>  >  >>57) linda ahlbom goteborg, sweden
>  >  >>58) jenny forsman, boras, sweden
>  >  >>59) nina gunnarson, kinna, sweden
>  >  >>60) andrew harrison, new zealand
>  >  >>61) bryre murphy, new zealand
>  >  >>62) claire lugton, new zealand
>  >  >>63) sarah thornton, new zealand
>  >  >>64) rachel eade, new zealand
>  >  >>65) magnus hjert, london, uk
>  >  >>67) madeleine stamvik, hurley, uk
>  >  >>68) susanne nowlan, vermont, usa
>  >  >>69) lotta svenby, malmoe, sweden
>  >  >>70) adina giselsson, malmoe, sweden
>  >  >>71) anders kullman, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>72) rebecka swane, stockholm,sweden
>  >  >>73) jens venge, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>74) catharina ekdahl, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>75) nina fylkegard, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>76) therese stedman, malmoe, sweden
>  >  >>77) jannica lund, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>78) douglas bratt
>  >  >>79) mats lofstrom, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>80) li lindstrom, sweden
>  >  >>81) ursula mueller, sweden
>  >  >>82) marianne komstadius, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>83) peter thyselius, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>84) gonzalo oviedo, quito, ecuador
>  >  >>85) amalia romeo, gland, switzerland
>  >  >>86) margarita restrepo, gland, switzerland
>  >  >>87) eliane ruster, crans p.c., switzerland
>  >  >>88) jennifer bischoff-elder, hong kong
>  >  >>89)azita lashgari, beirut, lebanon
>  >  > >90)khashayar ostovany, new york, usa
>  >  >>91)lisa l miller, reno nv
>  >  >>92)danielle avazian, los angeles, ca
>  >  >>93) sara risher, los angeles, ca.
>  >  >>94) melanie london, new york, ny
>  >  >>95) susan brownstein , los angeles, ca
>  >  >>96) steven raspa, san francisco, ca
>  >  >>97) margot duane, ross, ca
>  >  >>98) natasha darnall, los angeles, ca
>  >  >>99) candace brower, evanston, il
>  >  >>100) james kjelland, evanston, il
>  >  >>101) michael jampole, beach park, il, usa
>  >  >>102) diane willis, wilmette, il, usa
>  >  >>103) sharri russell, roanoke, va, usa
>  >  >>104) faye cooley, roanoke, va, usa
>  >  >>105) celeste thompson, round rock, tx, usa
>  >  >>106) sherry stang, pflugerville, tx, usa
>  >  >>107) amy j. singer, pflugerville, tx usa
>  >  >>108) milissa bowen, austin, tx usa
>  >  >>109) michelle jozwiak, brenham, tx usa
>  >  >>110) mary orsted, college station, tx usa
>  >  >>111) janet gardner, dallas, tx usa
>  >  >>112) marilyn hollingsworth, dallas, tx usa
>  >  >>113) nancy shamblin, garland. tx usa
>  >  >>114) k. m. mullen, houston, tx - usa
>  >  >>115) noreen tolman, houston, texas - usa
>  >  >>116) judy bechtel, merced, ca - usa
>  >  >>117) delores iliff, fl, usa
>  >  >>118) nicole propper, fl, usa
>  >  >>119) bonnie lachance, fl, usa
>  >  >>120) joann blades, fl, usa
>  >  >>121) pam blades, fl, usa
>  >  >>122) louise campbell, fl, usa
>  >  >>123) marcy desanto, fl, usa
>  >  >>124) donald blades, fl,usa
>  >  >>125) tom lachance, fl, usa
>  >  >>126) craig huff, ga, usa
>  >  >>127) karen huff, fl, usa
>  >  >>128) paul jarrell, wadsworth, oh - usa
>  >  >>129) ian austin , trinidad & tobago
>  >  >>130) germaine maxwell, pos, trinidad & tobago
>  >  >>131) phyllis serrao, trinidad & tobago
>  >  >>132) max serrao, trinidad & tobago
>  >  >>133) lynn waldron. trinidad & tobago
>  >  >>134) cheri alves-branker, british columbia,
>  > canada
>  >  >>135) lori underwood, british columbia, canada
>  >  >>136) monique gallant, british columbia, canada
>  >  >>137) shannon robertson, british columbia, canada
>  >  >>138) maria duran, british columbia, canada
>  >  >>139) esther essinger, california, usa
>  >  >>140) david joel rippner, california, usa
>  >  >>141) susan donald, south africa
>  >  >>142) thea rhiannon, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>143) kathleen moneymaker, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>144) jasmin moneymaker, olympia,washington, usa
>  >  >>145) james e. vegher, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>146) john w. grigsby, md, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>147) elizabeth macdonell, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>148) lisa domenico, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>149) jenny stern-carusone, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>150) jud stern-carusone, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>151) marcia walsh, lakeport, california, usa
>  >  >>152) catherine l. kendall, kings beach,
>  > california,usa
>  >  >>153) william f. griffin, kings
>  > beach,california,usa
>  >  >>154) anne s. katzeff, somerville, ma, usa
>  >  >>155) joan katz, brooklyn, ny usa
>  >  >>156) stephanie katz, vienna, va, usa
>  >  >>157) david martin, chicago, il usa
>  >  >>158) lisa pizzo, camarillo, ca usa
>  >  >>159) bernice diaz, camarillo, ca usa
>  >  >>160) garry davison, ventura, ca usa
>  >  >>161) rese davison, ventura, ca usa
>  >  >>162) ralph wm hartmann, portland, or usa
>  >  >>163) donna moran, culver city, ca usa
>  >  >>164) kelly eggman, anaheim, ca usa
>  >  >>165) natasha vineyard brea, ca usa
>  >  >>166) anastasia rutherford; azusa, ca - usa
>  >  >>167) renee laramore, burbank, ca usa
>  >  >>168) rosina pinchot, pasadena, ca usa
>  >  >>169) jennifer robinson, studio city, ca usa
>  >  >>170) carla willis, south pasadena ca usa
>  >  >>171) sonnie willis, sebastopol ca usa
>  >  >>172)john simmons, sebastopol, ca usa
>  >  >>173) j. a. frazer crocker, jr., florence, or usa
>  >  >>174) layton p. zimmer, wailuku, maui, hawai'i
>  >  >>175) janet r. mcwalter, belmont, ma, usa
>  >  >>176) robert b. gooltz, belmont, ma usa
>  >  >>177) karen swaim babin, cambridge, ma usa
>  >  >>178) cecile menu, paris, france
>  >  >>179) celia c., paris, france
>  >  >>180) carine lor, london, uk
>  >  >>181) ali khan, london, uk
>  >  >>182) mira nahouli, london, uk
>  >  >>183) anne smith, new york, ny
>  >  >>184) felicite celier, paris, france
>  >  >>185) crystal lam, paris, france
>  >  >>186) eliza hui, paris, france
>  >  >>187) mustafa sinop, bodrum, turkey
>  >  >>188) serap yesilsakiz, istanbul, turkey
>  >  >>189) yesim dervisogu, istanbul, turkey
>  >  >>190) ayla kudret, istanbul, turkey
>  >  >>191) aysen paker, istanbul, turkey
>  >  >>192) deniz ergene, istanbul, turkey
>  >  >>193)ali ihsan y}ld}z, istanbul,turkey
>  >  >>194)tamer cankardes, istanbul, turkey
>  >  >>195)ihsan inan, istanbul,turkey
>  >  >>196) zeren erilmez, brussels, belgium
>  >  >>197) tracei lauren gorelick, brussels, belgium
>  >  >>198) margaret rose, new york, new york
>  >  >>199) peter w. greenough new york, ny
>  >  >>200) veronica lilja stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>201) per wickman, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>202)eje sandberg, stockholm sweden
>  >  >>203) agneta persson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >204 bengt gustafsson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >205) mauritz glaumann, gavle, sweden
>  >  >206) ulla westerberg, gavle, sweden
>  >  >207) pia glaumann
>  >  >208) anna haglund
>  >  >208) marlene grundell, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >209) tonia olson portland or
>  >  >210) kris walters, albuquerque, new mexico
>  >  >211) constance campbell, austin, texas
>  >    212)  andrea toni mcfarland, houston, texas
>  >    213)  brandy hinton, houston texas
>  > 214) claudia weaver, corsicana, texas usa
>  215) nita whitener, corsicana, texas usa
>  216. pam cole, ben wheeler, tx, usa
   217) paula xander, va usa

>  >  >please copy this email on to a new message, sign
>  > the bottom and forward
>  >  >it to everyone on your distribution lists. if you
>  > receive this list with
>  > more than 200 names on it, please e-mail a copy of
>  > it
>  > to:<sarabande@brandeis.edu (send after every 100
>  > names.) even if you decide
>  > not to sign, please be considerate and do not kill
>  > the petition.
>  >  >
>  >  >thank you. it is best to copy rather than forward
>  > the petition.
>  >
>   >>
>
~~jennifer
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>  >  >the government of afghanistan is waging a war upon
>  > women. since the
>  >  >taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear
>  > burqua and have been
>  > beaten and stoned in public for not having the
>  > proper attire, even if this
>  > means simply not having the mesh covering in front
>  > of their eyes.
>  >
>  >  >one woman was beaten to death by an angry mob of
>  > fundamentalists for
>  >  >accidentally exposing her arm while she was
>  > driving. another was stoned to
>  >
>  > death for trying to leave the country with a man
>  > that was not a relative.
>  >  >
>  >  >women are not allowed to work or even go out in
>  > public without a male
>  >  >relative; professional women such as professors,
>  > translators, doctors,
>  > lawyers, artists and writers have been forced from
>  > their jobs and stuffed
>  > into their homes, so that depression is becoming so
>  > widespread that it has
>  > reached emergency levels.
>  >  >
>  >  >there no way in such an extreme islamic society to
>  > know the suicide rate
>  >  >with certainty, but relief workers are estimating
>  > that  the suicide rate
>  > among women, who cannot find proper medication and
>  > treatment for severe
>  > depression and would rather take their lives than
>  > live in such conditions,
>  > has increased significantly.
>  >
>  >  >homes where a woman is present must have their
>  > windows painted so that
>  >  >she can never be seen by outsiders. they must wear
>  > silent shoes so that
>  > they are never heard.  women live in fear of their
>  > lives for the slightest
>  > misbehavior. because they cannot work, those without
>  > male relatives or
>  > husbands are either starving to death or begging on
>  > the street, even if they
>  >
>  > hold ph.d.'s.
>  >  >
>  >  >there are almost no medical facilities available
>  > for women, and relief
>  >  >workers, in protest, have mostly left the country,
>  > taking  medicine and
>  > psychologists and other things necessary to treat
>  > the sky-rocketing level of
>  >
>  > depression among women.  at one of the rare
>  > hospitals for women, a reporter
>  > found still, nearly lifeless bodies lying motionless
>  > on top of beds, wrapped
>  >
>  > in their burqua, unwilling to speak, eat, or do
>  > anything, but slowly wasting
>  >
>  > away.
>  >  >
>  >  >others have gone mad and were seen crouched in
>  > corners, perpetually
>  >  >rocking or crying, most of them in fear. one
>  > doctor is considering, when
>  > what little medication that is left finally runs
>  > out, leaving these women in
>  >
>  > front of the president's residence as a form of
>  > peaceful protest.  it is at
>  > the point where the term 'human rights violations'
>  > has become an
>  > understatement.
>  >
>  >  >husbands have the power of life and death over
>  > their women relatives,
>  >  >especially their wives, but an angry mob has just
>  > as much right to stone
>  > or
>  > beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch
>  > of flesh or offending
>  > them
>  > in the slightest way.
>  >  >
>  >  >women enjoyed relative freedom, to work, dress
>  > generally as they wanted,
>  >  >and drive and appear in public alone until only
>  > 1996. the rapidity of this
>  >
>  > transition is the main reason for the depression and
>  > suicide; women who were
>  >
>  > once educators or doctors or simply used to basic
>  > human freedoms are now
>  > severely restricted and treated as sub-human in the
>  > name of right-wing
>  > fundamentalist islam. it is not their tradition or
>  > 'culture', but is alien
>  > to
>  > them, and it is extreme even for those cultures
>  > where fundamentalism is the
>  > rule.
>  >  >
>  >  >everyone has a right to a tolerable human
>  > existence, even if they are
>  >  >women in a muslim country. if we can threaten
>  > military  force in kosovo in
>  >
>  > the name of human rights for the sake of ethnic
>  > albanians, citizens of the
>  > world can certainly express peaceful outrage at the
>  > oppression, murder and
>  > injustice committed against women by the taliban.
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >statement: in signing this, we agree that the
>  > current treatment of women
>  > in
>  > afghanistan is completely unacceptable and deserves
>  > support and action by
>  > the
>  > united nations and that the current situation
>  > overseas will not be
>  > tolerated.
>  > women's  rights is not a small issue anywhere and it
>  > is unacceptable for
>  > women in 1999 to be treated as sub-human and as so
>  > much property.  equality
>  > and human decency is a right not a freedom, whether
>  > one lives in afghanistan
>  >
>  > or elsewhere.
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >>1) suzanne dathe, grenoble, france
>  >  >>2) laurence comparat, grenoble,france
>  >  >>3) philippe motte, grenoble, france
>  >  >>4) jok ferrand, mont st martin, france
>  >  >>5) emmanuelle pignol, st martin d'heres, france
>  >  >>6) marie gauthier, grenoble, france
>  >  >>7) laurent vescalo, grenoble,france
>  >  >>8) mathieu moy, st egreve, france
>  >  >>9) bernard blanchet, mont st martin, france
>  >  >>10) tassadite favrie, grenoble, france
>  >  >>11) loic godard, st ismier, france
>  >  >>12) benedicte pascal, grenoble, france
>  >  >>13) khedaidja benatia, grenoble, france
>  >  >>14) marie-therese lloret, grenoble,france
>  >  >>15) benoit theau, poitiers, france
>  >  >>16) bruno constantin, poitiers, france
>  >  >>17) christian cognard, poitiers, france
>  >  >>18) robert gardette, paris, france
>  >  >>19) claude chevillard, montpellier, france
>  >  >>20) gilles freiss, montpellier, france
>  >  >>21) patrick augereau, montpellier, france.
>  >  >>22) jean imbert, marseille, france
>  >  >>23) jean-claude murat, toulouse, france
>  >  >>24) anna bassols, barcelona, spain
>  >  >>25) mireia dunach, barcelona, spain
>  >  >>26) michel villaz, grenoble, france
>  >  >>27) pages frederique, dijon, france
>  >  >>28) rodolphe fischmeister, chatenay-malabry,
>  > france
>  >  >>29) francois bouteau, paris, france
>  >  >>30) patrick peter, paris, france
>  >  >>31) lorenza radici, paris, france
>  >  >>32) monika siegenthaler, bern, switzerland
>  >  >>33) mark philp, glasgow, scotland
>  >  >>34) tomas andersson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>35) jonas eriksson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>36) karin eriksson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>37) ake ljung, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>38) carina sedlmayer, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>39) rebecca uddman, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>40) lena skog, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>41) micael folke, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>42) britt-marie folke, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>43) birgitta schuberth, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>44) lena dahl, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>45) ebba karlsson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>46) jessica carlsson, vaxjo, sweden
>  >  >>47) sara blomquist, vaxjo, sweden
>  >  >>48) magdalena fosseus, vaxjo, sweden
>  >  >>49) charlotta langner, goteborg, sweden
>  >  >>50) andrea egedal, goteborg, sweden
>  >  >>51) lena persson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>52) magnus linder, umea ,sweden
>  >  >>53) petra olofsson, umea, sweden
>  >  >>54) caroline evenbom, vaxjo, sweden
>  >  >>55) asa pettersson, grimsas, sweden
>  >  >>56) jessica bjork, grimsas, sweden
>  >  >>57) linda ahlbom goteborg, sweden
>  >  >>58) jenny forsman, boras, sweden
>  >  >>59) nina gunnarson, kinna, sweden
>  >  >>60) andrew harrison, new zealand
>  >  >>61) bryre murphy, new zealand
>  >  >>62) claire lugton, new zealand
>  >  >>63) sarah thornton, new zealand
>  >  >>64) rachel eade, new zealand
>  >  >>65) magnus hjert, london, uk
>  >  >>67) madeleine stamvik, hurley, uk
>  >  >>68) susanne nowlan, vermont, usa
>  >  >>69) lotta svenby, malmoe, sweden
>  >  >>70) adina giselsson, malmoe, sweden
>  >  >>71) anders kullman, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>72) rebecka swane, stockholm,sweden
>  >  >>73) jens venge, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>74) catharina ekdahl, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>75) nina fylkegard, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>76) therese stedman, malmoe, sweden
>  >  >>77) jannica lund, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>78) douglas bratt
>  >  >>79) mats lofstrom, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>80) li lindstrom, sweden
>  >  >>81) ursula mueller, sweden
>  >  >>82) marianne komstadius, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>83) peter thyselius, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>84) gonzalo oviedo, quito, ecuador
>  >  >>85) amalia romeo, gland, switzerland
>  >  >>86) margarita restrepo, gland, switzerland
>  >  >>87) eliane ruster, crans p.c., switzerland
>  >  >>88) jennifer bischoff-elder, hong kong
>  >  >>89)azita lashgari, beirut, lebanon
>  >  > >90)khashayar ostovany, new york, usa
>  >  >>91)lisa l miller, reno nv
>  >  >>92)danielle avazian, los angeles, ca
>  >  >>93) sara risher, los angeles, ca.
>  >  >>94) melanie london, new york, ny
>  >  >>95) susan brownstein , los angeles, ca
>  >  >>96) steven raspa, san francisco, ca
>  >  >>97) margot duane, ross, ca
>  >  >>98) natasha darnall, los angeles, ca
>  >  >>99) candace brower, evanston, il
>  >  >>100) james kjelland, evanston, il
>  >  >>101) michael jampole, beach park, il, usa
>  >  >>102) diane willis, wilmette, il, usa
>  >  >>103) sharri russell, roanoke, va, usa
>  >  >>104) faye cooley, roanoke, va, usa
>  >  >>105) celeste thompson, round rock, tx, usa
>  >  >>106) sherry stang, pflugerville, tx, usa
>  >  >>107) amy j. singer, pflugerville, tx usa
>  >  >>108) milissa bowen, austin, tx usa
>  >  >>109) michelle jozwiak, brenham, tx usa
>  >  >>110) mary orsted, college station, tx usa
>  >  >>111) janet gardner, dallas, tx usa
>  >  >>112) marilyn hollingsworth, dallas, tx usa
>  >  >>113) nancy shamblin, garland. tx usa
>  >  >>114) k. m. mullen, houston, tx - usa
>  >  >>115) noreen tolman, houston, texas - usa
>  >  >>116) judy bechtel, merced, ca - usa
>  >  >>117) delores iliff, fl, usa
>  >  >>118) nicole propper, fl, usa
>  >  >>119) bonnie lachance, fl, usa
>  >  >>120) joann blades, fl, usa
>  >  >>121) pam blades, fl, usa
>  >  >>122) louise campbell, fl, usa
>  >  >>123) marcy desanto, fl, usa
>  >  >>124) donald blades, fl,usa
>  >  >>125) tom lachance, fl, usa
>  >  >>126) craig huff, ga, usa
>  >  >>127) karen huff, fl, usa
>  >  >>128) paul jarrell, wadsworth, oh - usa
>  >  >>129) ian austin , trinidad & tobago
>  >  >>130) germaine maxwell, pos, trinidad & tobago
>  >  >>131) phyllis serrao, trinidad & tobago
>  >  >>132) max serrao, trinidad & tobago
>  >  >>133) lynn waldron. trinidad & tobago
>  >  >>134) cheri alves-branker, british columbia,
>  > canada
>  >  >>135) lori underwood, british columbia, canada
>  >  >>136) monique gallant, british columbia, canada
>  >  >>137) shannon robertson, british columbia, canada
>  >  >>138) maria duran, british columbia, canada
>  >  >>139) esther essinger, california, usa
>  >  >>140) david joel rippner, california, usa
>  >  >>141) susan donald, south africa
>  >  >>142) thea rhiannon, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>143) kathleen moneymaker, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>144) jasmin moneymaker, olympia,washington, usa
>  >  >>145) james e. vegher, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>146) john w. grigsby, md, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>147) elizabeth macdonell, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>148) lisa domenico, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>149) jenny stern-carusone, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>150) jud stern-carusone, portland, oregon, usa
>  >  >>151) marcia walsh, lakeport, california, usa
>  >  >>152) catherine l. kendall, kings beach,
>  > california,usa
>  >  >>153) william f. griffin, kings
>  > beach,california,usa
>  >  >>154) anne s. katzeff, somerville, ma, usa
>  >  >>155) joan katz, brooklyn, ny usa
>  >  >>156) stephanie katz, vienna, va, usa
>  >  >>157) david martin, chicago, il usa
>  >  >>158) lisa pizzo, camarillo, ca usa
>  >  >>159) bernice diaz, camarillo, ca usa
>  >  >>160) garry davison, ventura, ca usa
>  >  >>161) rese davison, ventura, ca usa
>  >  >>162) ralph wm hartmann, portland, or usa
>  >  >>163) donna moran, culver city, ca usa
>  >  >>164) kelly eggman, anaheim, ca usa
>  >  >>165) natasha vineyard brea, ca usa
>  >  >>166) anastasia rutherford; azusa, ca - usa
>  >  >>167) renee laramore, burbank, ca usa
>  >  >>168) rosina pinchot, pasadena, ca usa
>  >  >>169) jennifer robinson, studio city, ca usa
>  >  >>170) carla willis, south pasadena ca usa
>  >  >>171) sonnie willis, sebastopol ca usa
>  >  >>172)john simmons, sebastopol, ca usa
>  >  >>173) j. a. frazer crocker, jr., florence, or usa
>  >  >>174) layton p. zimmer, wailuku, maui, hawai'i
>  >  >>175) janet r. mcwalter, belmont, ma, usa
>  >  >>176) robert b. gooltz, belmont, ma usa
>  >  >>177) karen swaim babin, cambridge, ma usa
>  >  >>178) cecile menu, paris, france
>  >  >>179) celia c., paris, france
>  >  >>180) carine lor, london, uk
>  >  >>181) ali khan, london, uk
>  >  >>182) mira nahouli, london, uk
>  >  >>183) anne smith, new york, ny
>  >  >>184) felicite celier, paris, france
>  >  >>185) crystal lam, paris, france
>  >  >>186) eliza hui, paris, france
>  >  >>187) mustafa sinop, bodrum, turkey
>  >  >>188) serap yesilsakiz, istanbul, turkey
>  >  >>189) yesim dervisogu, istanbul, turkey
>  >  >>190) ayla kudret, istanbul, turkey
>  >  >>191) aysen paker, istanbul, turkey
>  >  >>192) deniz ergene, istanbul, turkey
>  >  >>193)ali ihsan y}ld}z, istanbul,turkey
>  >  >>194)tamer cankardes, istanbul, turkey
>  >  >>195)ihsan inan, istanbul,turkey
>  >  >>196) zeren erilmez, brussels, belgium
>  >  >>197) tracei lauren gorelick, brussels, belgium
>  >  >>198) margaret rose, new york, new york
>  >  >>199) peter w. greenough new york, ny
>  >  >>200) veronica lilja stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>201) per wickman, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >>202)eje sandberg, stockholm sweden
>  >  >>203) agneta persson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >204 bengt gustafsson, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >205) mauritz glaumann, gavle, sweden
>  >  >206) ulla westerberg, gavle, sweden
>  >  >207) pia glaumann
>  >  >208) anna haglund
>  >  >208) marlene grundell, stockholm, sweden
>  >  >209) tonia olson portland or
>  >  >210) kris walters, albuquerque, new mexico
>  >  >211) constance campbell, austin, texas
>  >    212)  andrea toni mcfarland, houston, texas
>  >    213)  brandy hinton, houston texas
>  > 214) claudia weaver, corsicana, texas usa
>  215) nita whitener, corsicana, texas usa
>  216. pam cole, ben wheeler, tx, usa
   217) paula xander, va usa
   218) jennifer kickliter, pensacola fl usa

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>  > the bottom and forward
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>  > not to sign, please be considerate and do not kill
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date:         thu, 11 nov 1999 07:33:05 -0600
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sorry about sending that twice y'all.... it sent the first time before i
signed it myself... please forward the second one on and ignore the first.

~~jennifer
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date:         thu, 11 nov 1999 09:00:32 -0500
reply-to:     "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com>
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it was occurring to me as i played with a friend that maybe amy is to
emily's right because in the beginning, and probably they are even unaware
of this, amy had to watch her own left hand more often, while watching emily
for cues and changes, emily being the more technically trained, and probably
better guitar player.  so amy had to be on the stage-right side.  plus, if
they ever had to share a music stand, you could see where amy would have to
be on that side to watch her hand and read the lyric sheet at the same time.

just a guess from a non-trained, amy-wannabe martin banging guitar chick,
tara

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in a message dated 11/10/99 10:59:11 pm eastern standard time,
grrrly4354@aol.com writes:

<< i just wanna say that
it wasn't just cindy who thought their vibe was yucky, i thought so too.  >>

all i can say is so what????   i kind of sense yucky vibes all over the
place, right now.  who cares?  you hit this woman on the head!  how easy and
shallow it is for you to say "her vibe was yucky,"  after you go and bop her,
dancing obliviously or not.  if you all didn't feel so damn guilty you
wouldn't keep defending this lame issue.  give it up already.    and
remember, be kind to strangers and quit hitting people!

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date:         thu, 11 nov 1999 08:26:34 -0600
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i bought a milwaukee ticket for someone and now they don't need it.  the
show is on december 8th at milwaukee's riverside theatre.  section 1
(middle floor), row h (8th row) seat 124.  cost is $43.50 including
ticketbastard charges.  i'll spring for postage.  please email me if
interested.
----------------------------------------------------------
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bootleg page: http://www.geocities.com/felidae/boots.htm

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okay, amy may think he's cute, but i'm siding more with emily on this one...

>from msnbc...
george w's yes and no on gay issues
is george w. bush being evasive on gay issues? jeannette walls
delivers the scoop.
http://www.msnbc.com/modules/exports/ct_infobeat.asp?/news/333190.asp

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hey kind friends,

a very cool friend of mine has 2 tickets available for the friday, november
19th ig show in denver colorado.  venue is the fillmore (former manmouth
events center).  it is my understanding that the show is ga.

please contact jenny directly:
jennifer.convery@colorado.edu

she would really appreciate it someone would help her out and take the
tickets off her hands.

thanks!
l'sly

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subject:      re: two ig things.....

more or less like this list :)

peace,
tim

the havana moon web page:     http://angelfire.com/ny3/havanamoon
the katie miller web page:    http://angelfire.com/ny3/katiemiller
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from: susan brill <susan.brill@yale.edu>

>i really liked this:
>>the indigo girls create, wherever they go, little ideal societies, of
>> open-minded, supportive, musical, friendly, and happy people ...
>>except that there are underrepresented populations of men. everything
> >that ani could ever want from society, she would find at an indigo girls
>concert ...
>
>-s.

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i'm kinda curious as to everyone's thoughts on the new ig logo they are
putting on the t-shirts and dog tags... i'm not really sure of the
significance of it as it relates to cons. for those of you who haven't
seen it, it's a person holding a scythe in the air, with some sort of
banner or something hanging over her/his shoulder.

that was a really poor description. maybe someone has it scanned in
someplace?

any thoughts?

--amy

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well, it was 550 miles of driving in one day, but wow!  the portland
concert was amazing.  a much bigger venue than i was expecting, but they
managed to fill it pretty well.  the sound was a bit off for the
butchies set (or do they always mix their vocals so deep into the mix
that you can't hear a word they're saying?), the crowd was friendly, and
the energy was pretty high, despite the girls looking kind of tired.
amy was drinking hot tea during the show -- fighting off a cold or
something?  anyway, the set-list and show summary:

go
trouble
reunion
cold beer and remote control
        (a&e traded comments here about how spacey they'd been all day.  amy
         pointed out that they'd spent the past couple of days in humboldt
county,
         and perhaps this was fallout from that.  *grin*)
chickenman
love will come to you
gone again
        ("this song is a kind of letter that i wrote to try to keep from doing
         the same mistake over and over again.  have you ever noticed how you
         do that, make the same mistake over and over, until it's just a
comfortable
         little pattern of safeness?  well, i had to write a song to break out
of that.)
peace tonight
scooter boys
closer to fine
sister
least complicated
johnny rotten
get out the map
faye tucker
        (emily broke a nail and commented on that and kept looking at it after
         every song for the rest of the show.)
shame on you

encore:
philosophy of loss
        (!!!!!  i had no idea that this was coming.  what a treat!)
ozilline
galilleo

overall, a great show.  they're really falling into a solid, steady
space with this tour.  phoenix (11/1) had a bit better energy, but i
think that was from the smaller venue and more intimate crowd.  i can't
wait until boise next tuesday!

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the portland show rocked!!!  if you didn't believe emily was a rocker before,
you better now!!  they were in great form, and really seemed to enjoy being
up there!! whew-played almost 2hrs, and imho was one of the best shows i've
seen them perform yet! peace-jen

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they are. they were downright cute last night! they looked like they were
having such a blast up there on stage.

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> know for a fact, though.

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i just wanted to say a quick thank you to everyone who recommended
strings.  in case you were wondering, d'addario were the most suggested.

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i picked up this magazine today (you can only get it at plan 9 stores in va)
and thought i'd share this part with y'all, since i really identify, as i'm
sure a lot of you do.  it's always good to know ya have something in common
with the girls:

amy - speaking of homosexuality in ig songs - "i try to make these points
implicitly. like in "go", i said, "did they tell you it was set in stone /
that you'd end up alone?"  that's something my parents used to say to me all
the time about being gay.  they thought that heterosexual marriage was the
only way to have companionship.

also, i thought this part was interesting:

amy, on jewel - "...she's really cool.  i think she's super-intelligent, and
that might make it hard for her......i had some preconceived ideas of her
before we met her, but she really was nice.  we jammed with her and she's
really talented.  we played and she sang off the top of her head for about
fifteen minutes, and all the words made sense, you know?  that's talent, if
you ask me.  but i can see how you'd think she's pretensious."

other than that, the article is stuff that we all already know, although,
she did say that "emily always talks about rites of passage being a really
important record to her.  rites made a mark on us.  it sent us in a new
direction, i think" - and i never knew they felt like that.

take care y'all,
tara

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hey, anna bananna or anyone else who was at the humboldt show...


what's that rad bad mcdad speedy mandloin song of amy's? the one she sang anlone
very fast?


thanks!@!!!!

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ok, so from the bluehouse list received this...

looks like they're coming out next year for sure.  this anecdote is from a
friend in portland who went backstage last night with the us women's soccer
team....  looks like hormonal motives are in the running to be support - lol!!!

"it was awesome, we had unbelievable seats and then we gotta go back stage. too cool...we all met the indigo girls.  they are going to be in australia in may..... tiff asked them if they knew who was going to open for them and i said
hey maybe groubie will?! :)......they have no idea who is opening for them in australia, but tiff was like the mc asking them questions and all.....she was killing me!  the team gave them each a signed jersey and we got a picture with amy in her jersey with all of us. "


how cool is that!!


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yay yay yay!!

http://realguide.real.com/music/?s=bumber

ig and ph balance on nov 13th 10pm et


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if anyone wants a copy and meg's maxed out, drop me a note.  i've been properly
chastised by a fellow listee, and i'll try to make up by doing an indigo good
deed.

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  i'm milling around the apt. (cleaning), i'm listening to 1200 curfews disc
2 now here's the thought i've just had:
             for those of you like myself that have enjoyed the girls and the
amazing band memebers they've gotten together for this tour, how amazing
would it be for them to do  neil young's "down by the river"? you know
caroline dale would just blow the roof off of the joint with that cello of
hers! i mean hello!! what a perfect cover for them to do with that band.
clare kenny in the back getting all funky on the bass (i'm addicted to bass)
, you know carol isaacs would be doing something crazy with that accordion of
hers and of course blair well hell he speaks for himself (amazing drummer).
we all know a&e totally dig neil and with that band they could jam all night
on that one song alone.  so how bout it? what do kiddies think?

    by the way thank you all so much for the prayers and thought's.  my dad
made it through the surgery but the outlook's not to pretty. he said he's not
going out that easily, he's going to fight for what he has left. he wanted me
to send his thanks out to ya'll, he's going to ride  those prayers for as
long as they will take him.

take care

-di  :o)

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in a message dated 11/11/99 4:19:42 pm pacific standard time,
telane@trigon.com writes:

> amy had to watch her own left hand more often, while watching emily
>  for cues and changes, emily being the more technically trained, and
probably
>  better guitar player.  so amy had to be on the stage-right side.

this has always been my theory too.  this is exactly what a friend and i do
whenever we play together since 'one of us'  frequently forgets what chord
we're going to next.  it works!  the first time i watched watershed, i full
expected that to be amy's answer when she and emily are asked why they always
take the side of the stage they take.  instead they make some excuse
<completely kidding, don't flame> about a sound board.  shhh.....i still
think i'm right!  ;-)

sue

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>amy - speaking of homosexuality in ig songs - "i try to make these points
>implicitly. like in "go", i said, "did they tell you it was set in stone /
>that you'd end up alone?"  that's something my parents used to say to me all
>the time about being gay.  they thought that heterosexual marriage was the
>only way to have companionship.

tara - thanks for posting this.
wow! i had wondered what had inspired this statement. - when i first heard
go these words took me back to when my dad used to tell me i'd end up alone
because i was, well, outspoken. he didn't think any man would be interested
in a relationship with such a woman. he was a definite believer in female
subservience to men. (glad to say he's changed over the years - after
raising three daughters he didn't have much choice...)

anyway, it was interesting to read about amy going through this with her
parents on the subject of her homosexuality. hope her parents have changed
their views as well.

-sue

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at 09:00 am 11/11/1999 -0500, lane, tara e. wrote:

>just a guess from a non-trained, amy-wannabe martin banging guitar chick,

good to know i'm not the only one, i guess.  ;)  incongruously, i've noted,
i seem to have made amy my role model, despite my utter worship of emily.
guess that's why i got a mandolin instead of a banjo, when faced with the
choice, huh?  (said mandolin was summarily named the uberchakram, whereas
my guitar is the uberwhacker.  don't ask.)

but thanks for pointing that theory out!  it makes perfect sense to me . .
. certainly what i'd be doing too.  now, assuming that really was the
reason (and i'm inclined to think it is), i wonder if they ever realized it
was the case?  ;)


battle on,
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yes, tim! that's what i thought when i read it! open-minded, friendly,
supportive, happy, etc... i think this list is mainly just that. it's nice.

- sue
(and hey all - let's not fight about the dancing thing! seems to me that
both the dancers and the sitters in this group said they want to be
respectful of others. )


at 11:40 am 11/11/99 -0500, havanamoon wrote:
>more or less like this list :)
>
>peace,
>tim
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>>i really liked this:
>>>the indigo girls create, wherever they go, little ideal societies, of
>>> open-minded, supportive, musical, friendly, and happy people ...

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hey y'alluns

now you know i'm from ky.  anyway, i hear em looking for something to
anesthetize her from the stress of her everyday grind, and she finds in
cold beer and remote control, and those 2 things are just the ticket.
just staring into the tv and thinking about nothing.  every busy woman's
dream.

can't wait for 12-14 in louisville!!!!  we had a big to do on the list
last time they came through town because the crowd i nlouisville was
rough and drunk.  the show was in the palace which is connected to a
bar, and you can bring drinks into the show.  it's a small theater and
there's not a bad seat, but everyone up front was on their feet,
including us, and i loved it because i was right in the middle of it (me
and a bunch of teenagers).  after ward, a friend of mine interviewed
them and amy told her it was a rough crowd.  somebody else complained
about it on the list.  i am certainly not advocating for sitting
throughout the show(like i could ever), but i hope the crowd behaves.  i
hate for them to leave my town with a bad taste in their talented little
mouths!

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hey, everyone,
while mie is searching for something/one to help
> cbarc is basically accepting being "stuck in the middle" and finding
> solace in the little pleasures - beer and tv!
        in the world cafe interview, emily said it was about someone who is
totally disillusioned with life and kind of wasting away to nothing (and
not the good, buddhist kind of nothing, she added).
deb

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hey everyone,

i thought some old lift fans might be interested checking this
out.............

in case you haven't heard, julie clark has rejoined as bassist for lift, and
things are really starting to look up!    they have recently released an ep
called "september".  it's getting a lot of airplay on the college radio
stations, and getting some really great reviews.

they have just entered a contest on the garageband.com website, where the top
prize is a $250,000 recording contract!     and by going to the website, and
listening to the songs (there are two), you can help them move up in the
charts.

all you need to do is go to this address and follow the links.  it takes
approximately 10 seconds to register, and you can win t-shirts and cd's from
reviewing songs (it's a point system where you build up points for each song
you review).    just mention that "lift" is the band that referred you to the
website, in the registration process.

http://www.garageband.com/music/profile/song.html?song_id=2632

and if nothing else, you can check out lift's new website at:
http://www.orangestar.com/lift

=)
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may 2000  thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!!!!

at last the indigo gods are smiling on me!!!!

maddie

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in a message dated 11/11/1999 7:18:43 pm eastern standard time,
m.maynes@student.qut.edu.au writes:

>  cold beer and remote control is a 90's  take on make it easier,
thematically.

i had been thinking that cbarc reminded me of something, i just couldn't
quite put my finger on it.. make it easier is my all time favorite of the
"old" songs, and cbarc is  moving up the ranks on the new album.
    on a side note, i've been very interested in the recent posts about
guitars, as i *think* i am getting one for christmas.  i was wondering...is
there a web site that i can research guitars, especially martin?  i am
wondering about prices, different types, etc...i don't even play, so i am
really clueless....any body out there who wants to pass on some advice?
(tim?)
thanks!

mary

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on thu, 11 nov 1999, havanamoon wrote:

> more or less like this list :)

   cool!  i'm underrepresented!

   darius

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date:         thu, 11 nov 1999 22:32:12 est
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one of the funniest moments for me about the portland show was durring "get
out the map" emilly was singing the line  " and then beth took a job all the
way over .... (speaking now) in portland accually! ... me im still.. "  it
was soo funny!

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date:         thu, 11 nov 1999 23:38:14 est
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this was a fantastic show.  i've seen the girls 20+ times over the years, and
this is perhaps the best performance i've ever seen.  the band is so tight,
and they looked like they were all having an absolute blast.  i could rave on
and on about certain songs...but it would take days! :)

please tell me that someone booted this show!!!!!!  i have practically nil to
trade, but would be happy to do 2 or 3 for 1 blanks, if that would work.
please email me privately.  thanks!

mis

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cons is the current planetout pick... here's the blurb:


indigo girls: come on now social
now they return with their seventh lp of potent rock-lore. amy ray and
emily saliers have what simon and garfunkel had, that ethereal harmony
connection that must be divine. but unlike on any of their previous
albums, the songs on come on now social find banjos and soft-stringed
acoustics on the back burner, making room this time for snares,
distortion, and more "indie-tude" than ever. "gone again" and "ozilline"
are festive, frolicking bluegrass tunes that smile and knee slap. but
the lead track, "go," gets gone with plunging kick drums and driving,
angular guitar riffs. even on saliers' snuggly call to action, "peace
tonight," there is a horn section. be it sinead o'connor's enlisted band
bringing about this feisty approach, or just the end of an era, come on
now social finds the indigo girls with their same heartache and protest,
just a lot more voltage.

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hey everyone,

while at one of the shows in october, a friend of mind said: "it's andy!" i
was lost for about 10 mins thinking about what she was talking about. it came
to me during the show. she was talking about the t-shirt. it's andy! oh.. i
got it..lol

r. mor alter
kathleen


in a message dated 11/11/1999 4:25:23 pm pacific standard time,
aswenson@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com writes:

<< for those of you who haven't
seen it, it's a person holding a scythe in the air, with some sort of
banner or something hanging over her/his shoulder. >>

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hey,

it just ocurred to me that you people are the perfect audience for my raving.
i write for an online, nonprofit music mag called jupiter index. in november's
issue, we have a review of the concert a&e played in nyc at the beacon on the
oct 12, and a review of cons (which is a month late- the cd was hyper rushed
to me, and i killed myself to get finished for  the october issue, but alas
and alack, my editor has the final say on these things) both written by yours
truely. in the next month or so, there will be an interview with amy (not
mine, though). and, of course, there is plenty of music technology and
industry and entertainment to keep evenryone happy.

now, i am sorry to say that the wall is now up and you can't read anything but
the title. but check it out! a year is 15 bucks, just send inquiries to the
e-mail addy on the title page.

the point, you ask? well, i have no money to send for a mag from virginia to
whomever might be offering, which i truely appreciate. but, i hope to get one
for a song, so to speak. might there just be someone who would send me one of
those amy interview mags if i posted both of my original articles on the list?
that would be really cool if someone could do that for a poor, starving and
very poor college student much like myself, who doesn't even get paid to write
for the silly magazine...

anyways, enough out of me

peace, pride and pickles,

meredith

ps the addy for the mag is http://www.jupiterindex.com/

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okay, i found out how much the tickets are for
the ig minneapolis show, and  am  looking for
a better deal, to avoid the ticketmaster .

i need to save as much as possible so i can
afford to  give my family and friends  my own cd
for christmas.  if anybody has  a bargain to offer i would appreciate.
together w/surcharge
is $32.50, that may not sound like much  but
but every cent counts right now.  anybody?

thanks for your understanding,

peace,

barb

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hey one and all!  last minute timing of course.
wanted:  one, that's one single ticket for the seattle show friday!!!
please help me....!  i'll be standin in the rain with a sign on the street
corner begging if i don't get a response from any of you kind folks!
not having a ticket is sick and wrong.
anyone?
faithfully,
stacy. (in tacoma)

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anyone, especially you indi^ (you know who i mean)  i f someone could
hook me up ith a set of those dog tags, i would be very pleased... lovin
the girls,
      carrie
               amy, amy, amy

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subject:      katie miller's cd release - a wonderful night!!!
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hello everybody!

as tom petty once said, "the waiting is the hardest part"....but the payoff
is the moment.....

katie had her moment this evening, and she took full advantage of
it.....katie's friends and family turned out en masse, augmented by dozens
of local musicians and fans of the local music scene, and many others who
were to receive their first exposure to katie's magic.

the band, (kevin roth on drums, dave rosenberg on bass, and kathy moriarty
on harmony vocals) took the stage in darkness while the sound system regaled
the crowd with the hidden track from strongest girl in the world.  katie
took the stage looking like a leather bound blonde angel as the band
launched into grass angels, the opening cut on the cd.  i joined them from
the wings to play a minor key harmonica accompaniment to the haunting "years
ago", and then strapped on my telecaster for a rockin' "feed the fire" (a
great potential single.)  it was great to witness the look of pleasure on
katie's face when i launched into my somewhat extended guitar solo, and to
hear the roar of appreciation from the crowd.  like those old beer
commercials, it doesn't get any better than this.....

two as yet unrecorded numbers followed, with katie alone on stage during
'past life song,' and joined by kevin and dave on 'cross to bear,' a tender
message to a former lover.  katie stood alone once again during "closer to
god," another of her wondrous melodies with deeply introspective lyrics,
before being rejoined by kevin and dave, abetted by execuitve producer dee
pugliese's two daughters, marlee francis and michelle pugliese, for the
title song to close the opening set.

i spent the intermission chatting with well-wishers and the other local
musicians in attendance, including singer-songwriters alison pipitone, aerin
tedesco, leah zicari, donna andreef and winnie bergner from anatara, the
acoustic duo of kim kerns and mike maffei, mike ciriscione from the band
'riley', bassist jackie lobuglio from the all-woman blues/rock band ethyl
(whose own cd release party will take place at nietzsche's on nov 27), and
megan corcoran, harmonica/vocalist from the all-woman band 'and sometimes
y'.

the second set built on the momentum generated by the first, mixing rocking
uptempo numbers with some extremely moving ballads.  highlights included the
autobiographical "movie screen", which featured some inspired jamming
between katie and the rhythm section, the achingly beautiful "september
leaves" with kathy moriarty's gorgeous harmonies, "mediocre appetite", a
song originally written on piano, which katie recently resurrected and
revamped, and the tender love ballad "fly", written for katie's wife
charlene during the early stages of their relationship.  the most moving
moment of the night came during the introduction and performance of "libby's
song", written for a close friend who has been battling breast cancer.
libby and her family were in attendance and one had to marvel at the
fighting spirit of this courageous woman.

closing out the show were the song that started it all, "except around the
eyes", and "waiting", one of katie's long term favorites, which gave both
myself and dave a chance to do some inspired improvised soloing.

all too soon it was over, but the festive crowd was slow to depart, as a
massive epidemic of hugging and embracing swept the room.  it was a special
night by a very special young woman....

next in line: aerin tedesco's cd release party for "angels and allegories"
with her band, gabriel's cage, wednesday, dec 15 at nietzsche's, with a
special pre-release party at compton's after dark on saturday, nov 20.

peace, love, and harmony,
tim

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awesome show, great venue, good crowd but not real hard core (like us)
not so great seat for me. they are just so 'on' right now. wow. not too
much chat but they sure seemed happy, still working on those crosswords.
said we were the smartest audience yet when we helped, but i bet they
say that to all their audiences.

butchies: what cutie patooties (sorry, too much rosie)

set list included all the cons greats: gone again, philosophy of loss,
andy, ozillene, go, fay tucker (have mercy that woman can sing), plus
some older treats like chickenman, airplane, po2 lots from sots.
hopefully somebody will remember them all in order. chickenman,
chickenman....

fashion report ....er all i remember is the black tank top. :)

hand lettered sign on crew bus: mobile leper colony. be safe. stay away.

is it just me or is sulli looking mighty damn fine these days?

brief appearance and wave as they went out to the bus in the rain.

not quite 'living la vida blue tarp' like bumbershoot but an amazing
show nonetheless. onward to seattle tomorrow. row 3, seat 12. somebody
come and say hey.

apologies if not making sense.
must sleep now, 5 hours till get up, go work, drive i-5 again.

helen
vancouver reporter

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wow!!! i'm still reeling from a fabulous show! (and too little sleep,
since i had to drive back to eugene, finish my homework, and still get
up for a 9am lab)...

the butchies were awesome! i am definitely gonna buy one of their cds
(any reccomendations as to which?) ... and, uh, yummm! ;-)

this was my first time seeing the girls, and they were wonderful!!!! i
was absolutely ecstatic when they played love will come to you, which is
my anthem right now (since i've been single for too long)... sister was
great... it was more like the reprise version, with the
industrial-sounding beats... and the bass shook the arena.  and johnny
rotten was great, too...

one of the cute moments not yet mentioned was right before they played
shame on you, near the end, amy started listing their upcoming pnw
dates, and couldn't get them in order... then they invited everyone to
quit their jobs and go on the road with ig... emily said all you'd have
to provide was your own transportation and food, and then amy said, no,
they'd provide the food... and that they eat well... so here's the
invitation you've all been waiting for... ;-)

i can't wait until sunday for the eugene show... hoping for maybe a bit
more of the slow stuff (ballads other than the absolute standard
sing-alongs)... but if they wanna rock again like this time, that'll be
fine with me...

shannon

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for those who keep track of these things:

bellingham washington
mt. baker theatre
11/11/99

trouble
land of canaan
get out the map
compromise
andy
chickenman (yes)
cold beer & remote control
gone again
airplane
shed your skin
closer to fine
ozilline
power of two
faye tucker
philosophy of loss (amy took the crossword off stage during this song to
work on it, that woman is addicted!)
least complicated
go

--encore--
ghost
do you wanna touch me (w/ the butchies)
galileo


words can not describe how awesome... sigh. no words. :) their voices live
will never cease to amaze me. *shiver*

k.

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i have tiks for the thurs show - does anyone know who's opening for them on that night?

thanks, amanda

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how amazing would it be for them to do  neil young's "down by the river"?
>>>

hkf's,

as a huge neil fan, could anyone help me figure out all of the songs by neil
that the girls have played?  i've had the honor of hearing down by the river
& also powderfinger...  what else besides what i listed below?

down by the river
powderfinger
rockin' in the free world
cortez the killer

anymore?  i can't think of any others off the top of my head.

thanks!
a+e=ig

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subject:      neil young songs...

they've played southern man also (it's on the nothing to
hide/days of wine and roses cds...)

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i have this feeling that kmtt is going to broadcast their interview with ig before their show there tonight.  and it will likely be friday afternoon.  please, somebody tape it.

hello, is anybody there?

jude :)

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i went to see suzanne westenhoeffer last night.  she is absolutely
hystarical.  i totally recomend seeing her if she comes to your area. i
laughed so hard i cried.  she has such a great outlook on lesbianism,
life, and love.  i may also be partial because she was born very near
wear i live.
peace & love,
     carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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  any listees going to the louisville ky show in dec?  i'm not from that
area, but was wondering if anyone was going to plan a listmeet...
peace and love,
        carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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indigrrl wrote:

that's why i got a mandolin instead of a banjo, when faced with the
choice, huh?  (said mandolin was summarily named the uberchakram, whereas my
guitar is the uberwhacker.  don't ask.)

chee wrote:

so, did you name your guitar the uberwhacker?  that's a great name.  i think
the mandolin is so enjoyable because it's more for the flailin' and wailin'
which takes more energy than the banjo's pickin' and grinin'.

what if the hokie-pokie is all it's about?


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hi folks,

petitions seem to be around a lot lately so i thought a clarification
about petitions and the list would be appropriate...

if you would like to let the list know about a petition, please use the
following steps:

1.  send a brief note to the list explaining the petition and ask for
interested listees to respond to you via private email.

2.  then email the petition to those listees interested via private
email.

please do not post petitions to the list.

on another matter...please make sure your posts to the list are written
in plain text.  html or other types of code make it impossible for some
listees to read their mail.

thanks for taking the political discussions off the list!

have a great weekend!

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this is a cool site for those who could stand some education on the
potential candidates - and this page gives you a quiz on your stands on
issues, and then ranks the candidates in order as to who you should vote
for.  you can click on any of the candidates at that point and it'll tell
you what they say about those issues and links to their webpages.  really
neat and informative...check it out.

http://www.selectsmart.com/president/

-tara, who should vote for al gore, by one point, over bill bradley.

al got a '78', bush got a '31'.  'nuf said.

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hi all,
     ok, now we were in the second row in the wonderful rose garden theater
of the clouds.
     the opening act was the butchies.  they were very cute, especially at
certain moments.  my first comment must be that i could not hear the words,
of course the mixing for most of the opening acts that i have seen is poor.
this could be worse for me because i didn't know their lyrics at all.  the
blonde playing lead is really good and if you ask me and a lot of the crowd
that was around me is seductive.  (excuse me for not knowing any names, but i
only heard of the band a few days ago.  the bass player is really good and
when i heard her singing the opening of one of the songs, is really a good
singer.  the drummer is really talented and came up to the mike a few times
to add her personality to the mix, which i thought was really cool.
anyway,
the first two songs i couldn't make out enough to even attempt a name
since you've been gone  were the lyrics i could pick out
a song ?by chris willamson
this town    were lyrics which i could pick out
to be broadcast live  ( this is the actual name from the clip i downloaded)
     anyway, they were really good, and if i could somehow get an idea of
their lyrics and hear them actually sing above the instruments, i might just
get their album.

three of the beat (107.5 the radio station) people came on stage and got us a
bit excited, rebecca, gina, and .......someone fill in her name for me
please.  anyway, they had fun and so did lots of the crowd.  the first thing
they said was.... we are going to get in trouble for this..... (lol)

     and what you have all been waiting for (or scrolling to find)
drum roll
go
trouble
reunion (yknow, intimate strangers... pretty pretenders)
cold beer and remote control
chickenman
love will come to you
gone again
peace tonight
band introductions... claire kenny, caroline lovell, carol isaacs, blair
cunningham
(spelling may not be quite right)
scooter boys  ( with a guitar riff then a cello solo) you rock emily and amy!!
closer to fine
sister
least complicated
johnny rotten (amy on stage by herself...man was she winded after that one)
get out the map
faye tucker
power of two
shame on you
--encore--
philosophy of loss (emily on stage by herself)
ozzilene
galileo

amy had her tank top, a white shirt with vertical black stripes, and white
pants with a black check pattern (giving them a light grey appearance)
emily had a nice light blue shirt and black jeans
during the concert emily said that she broke a nail....
they were definitely more relaxed than they were at bumbershoot.  emily was
rocking out a bit more.  of course we were all singing along to most of the
songs.  the indigo girls both have just the greatest smiles.

and i want to add a thank you to all of the other listees who take the time
to post reviews of their local shows.  i love to know what they are playing,
etc.
                                                 :-)
                                                                           kim

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woo hoo! i am going to see her tonight at bucknell university :)  it will
be my second time seeing her this year...an organization in nj had her at
their garden party this past may - it was sooo great :)  i can't wait! :)

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i hope this question isn't veering into the "too personal" category, but i'm
wondering how someone who is on the road as much as a&e get the opportunity
for exercise. when i finally met them up close i couldn't help notice that
amy looks pretty buff, even though she also looked tired. i would imagine
that life on the road makes it difficult to get much workout time, with all
that travelling and trying to get some sleep and then waiting around between
sound checks and shows.

i'm not asking if anyone knows their personal fitness routine (although i'd
probably hyperventilate if i saw amy at my local gym), it's more of a
general inquiry.

karen

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that was johnny rotten.  (it's also the little snipit at the beginning of
compromise on cons)

-anna

>hey, anna bananna or anyone else who was at the humboldt show...
>
>
>what's that rad bad mcdad speedy mandloin song of amy's? the one she sang
>anlone
>very fast?
>
>
>thanks!@!!!!
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on wed, 10 nov 1999, bonster wrote:

> > i believe the openers for the eugene and portland
> > shows are the butchies.  i know they are for portland,
> > not sure about eugene.
>
> i also heard that the butchies are opening for the seattle show. don't
> know for a fact, though.
>
oh man, the one seattle concert i miss and i miss kaia??? oh, woe is me!
seattleites! a plea is going out to you for mucho reviews. send 'em to me
privately. i don't care! call me a masochist! and if anyone gets any
decent pictures of kaia, an even bigger plea goes out for those! oh man...

amy m.

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i know a lot of people are interested in native issues so i thought i
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well, this was said at a show so i guess it's not "too personal"...

at the humboldt show amy said she had ridden her bike around town that day...

so i guess that's what she does!

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>i hope this question isn't veering into the "too personal" category, but i'm
>wondering how someone who is on the road as much as a&e get the opportunity
>for exercise. when i finally met them up close i couldn't help notice that
>amy looks pretty buff, even though she also looked tired. i would imagine
>that life on the road makes it difficult to get much workout time, with all
>that travelling and trying to get some sleep and then waiting around between
>sound checks and shows.
>
>i'm not asking if anyone knows their personal fitness routine (although i'd
>probably hyperventilate if i saw amy at my local gym), it's more of a
>general inquiry.
>
>karen
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this was too funny (or scary) to pass up. you decide. i wrote and ask them
if it is for real or is it a parody a la landover baptist and they only
answered "yes".

ryan blackhawke
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ever hear of the game "is it real or is it a parody?"

probably not, i just made it up. but here's how you play. you pick a fringe
or
weird web site, then try to guess if it's real or... got the picture?

here's one that seems to be for real. americans for purity, a group
advocating
an end to masturbation, now! among their wise tips on their web site:
parents
should remove the doorknobs from their childrens' doors, and everyone should
write congress to put an end to masturbation. eeeks. i sure hope this is a
landover-baptist-style parody. what if it's not?

http://www.geocities.com/capitolhill/senate/2680/

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on fri, 12 nov 1999, chee hill wrote:

> indigrrl wrote:
>
> that's why i got a mandolin instead of a banjo, when faced with the
> choice, huh?  (said mandolin was summarily named the uberchakram, whereas my
> guitar is the uberwhacker.  don't ask.)
>
> chee wrote:
>
> so, did you name your guitar the uberwhacker?  that's a great name.  i think
> the mandolin is so enjoyable because it's more for the flailin' and wailin'
> which takes more energy than the banjo's pickin' and grinin'.
>

just to clarify: i don't know who said this, but it weren't me. indigrrl
don't even own a banjo, though if offered she wouldn't turn down a banjo
*or* a mandolin.

amy m.

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i'm thrilled everybody's liking the butchies; they're so delicious!  i
especially loved this comment: "the blonde playing lead is really good and
if you ask me and a lot of the crowd that was around me is seductive."

heh!  shur nuff!  her name is kaia wilson (not like the real world kaia tho).

first off, their website is http://www.mrlady.com for tour dates and other
good stuff. they're playing california and phoenix next week, so catch 'em
if you can.  there's also a butchies e-list at onelist, if you're so inclined.

and second, i'd buy their first album, "are we not femme?" before i'd get
"population 1975".  it's got more of an "album feel"--meaning all the songs
feel good, and they go together perfectly.  high energy, great to drive to
work with.  pop 1975 has more ballads and a slower tempo overall, but
thematically there's a lot about queer youth and it's awesome for that
reason.  plus they sing about ally sheedy.  heh.  it's available online at
the website, and at your finer music stores.  also check out the mrlady
sampler of "women's music"--some cool punk bands, some cool
singersongwriter types.

point #3: fyi, good old school kaia vocals and an awesome sound is her work
with team dresch, especially "personal best", possibly the best album ever
made!

luv
h (who feels she's channeling jilly for some reason; )

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actually, that is 3 hours later for east coasters!

> -----original message-----
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> sent: wednesday, november 10, 1999 12:57 pm
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> subject: bumbershoot revisited - kmtt to rebroadcast
>
>
> on november 13 @ 7 pm pst (that is 4 hours later for you right
> coasters) kmtt will rebroadcast the ig bumbershoot show.
>
> get your tapes ready...you'll are getting a load out there, aren't you? :)
>
> jude :)
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has anybody else on here ever heard of the band red letter day?  my friend
krista (who, coincidentally, introduced me to ig's music) lent me their 4
bowls of colour cd, and they just rock. :)

kel


"this isn't the last time i will fall from grace."  the butchies; "salamander"

"every devil i meet becomes a friend of mine; every devil i meet is an angel
in disguise."  the indigo girls; "jonas and ezekial."

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hi all,
thanks for that little bit from amy. the funny thing is
when i came out to my mom she was so happy i wouldn't be
alone. it hasn't been smooth sailing with my orientation
entirely, but it's kind of the inverse of the point
below. she knew i wasn't having straight relationships,
so at least being with women meant i'd find a
relationship so i wouldn't have to be alone. which has
been the case.

and yeah, i hope her folks have come around on that
perspective, too.
kc

> amy - speaking of homosexuality in ig songs - "i try to make these points
> implicitly. like in "go", i said, "did they tell you it was set in stone /
> that you'd end up alone?"  that's something my parents used to say to me all
> the time about being gay.  they thought that heterosexual marriage was the
> only way to have companionship.

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you know, i bet amy was *kidding*


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>okay, amy may think he's cute, but i'm siding more with emily on this one...
>
>from msnbc...
>george w's yes and no on gay issues
>is george w. bush being evasive on gay issues? jeannette walls
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<< is it just me or is sulli looking mighty damn fine these days? >>

yeah sulli defintely is a cutie....but i saw her smoking after the berkeley
show :( along with practically every member of the crew who was loading the
trucks...i'm not into smokers but sulli is cute...i just found out my company
is doing some work for kraft...bummer.

lisa
"so ask why there's only 40 songs on a station, ask your cafe about it's
coffee's plantation..and why is it arizona hasn't gone solar? tell your print
shop that hemp grows faster and it doesn't mean a clear-cut backroom
disaster...and we can play the greed right into our hands..." ~dar williams

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well, one time i saw amy running in the streets of olympia right before an
ani difranco show. this was when she was traveling with ani.  she was
wearing really tight, ugly orange sweatpants, and was running down the
street near the theatre.  funny, too, because when shaming of the sun came
out, hey kind friend had a line about running down on capitol lane in
olympia.  that was cool to hear.

anyway, i've also heard that amy does mountain biking and kayaking when in
seattle.  :)

hope that helps.

on fri, 12 nov 1999, karen johanns wrote:
> i'm not asking if anyone knows their personal fitness routine
> (although i'd probably hyperventilate if i saw amy at my local gym),
> it's more of a general inquiry.
>
> karen
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on the working out thing....i already mentioned that when i was backstage at
berkeley amy was wearing these tight pants...  :) and she looked very
fit....when one of the assistants was telling her they has to be in sf early
for the tower thing, amy asked him if he was going to do her workout for
her...emily looked pretty good too :) (sorry, i'm an amy and emily person)
also, when i saw them in denver for the lilith fair this year, amy said they
(i don't know who they is...) went to chataqua park and went - either hiking
or mountain biking...i can't remember which...so they must try to get outside
and get some excercise...(i do have to say that amy looked very very good in
those tight pants....)

lisa :)

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amy said at the vegas show that she had been out mountain biking that day.  i
recall reading somewhere that emily says she has a personal trainer back home,
but i don't know what she does when she is on the road.

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at 12:07 pm 11/12/1999 -0700, amy m. wrote:

>> chee wrote:
>>
>> so, did you name your guitar the uberwhacker?  that's a great name.  i think
>> the mandolin is so enjoyable because it's more for the flailin' and wailin'
>> which takes more energy than the banjo's pickin' and grinin'.
>>
>
>just to clarify: i don't know who said this, but it weren't me. indigrrl
>don't even own a banjo, though if offered she wouldn't turn down a banjo
>*or* a mandolin.

dern right i wouldn't. <g>  and it was me who said that.
offer me any stringed instrument amy or emily has ever played, and i
wouldn't turn it down.  (even if it were a bouzouki, which my fingers are
too short to play really well . . . don't go there.)  i can't play lead to
save my life, though, so i'm better off with the mandolin.  yep.  no
patience for all that picking.  i'd rather just strum.
(and again i'm struck by the absurdity of the fact that i worship the
ground emily treads upon, and yet amy is my role model . . .)

go figure.


battle on,
shanie
(taking up the gabwhacker in defense of the bard, in all lifetimes)
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ok.. i just got back from the promo concert for 103.7 in seattle.. there were
like 100 people there and they sounded great!! anyway, they saik they will
play the show or at least some of the songs 3:30 on monday.. and if you dont
live in seattle you can still listen in via thier website.. www.kmtt.com
listen in! it was an aucoustic dream!!

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oh my god... ok .. well i feel spoiled.. i got a chance to meet the girls
backstage after the portland show!! when i walked back there they were
talking to the us womens olympic soccer team who had seen the show!  and then
i talked to each of them individually. and i must say .. they glow and they
are so warm and friendly to their fans.. genuine.. real.. the pressence of a
higher power!!... i swear.. and i got pictures and autographs and joked with
them a little! amazing!!  i was so nervous i said some really dumb things but
i compimented amy on her jonny rotten and how i want to learn madolin but i
cant even pick on guitar and she said laughing
" well , neither do i!" it was hilarious!!...
  they also had a private intimate concert here in seattle today for about
100 people at 12:00.. i got to sit in the 2nd row and man!! it was intence!!
they sang gone again, peace tonight, go, and get out the map.. and when the
audiece was singing along  they had the biggest grins on their mouths!! it
was about as small as the live at the uptown lounge video!! incredible!! i
got some quitar pics and a promo poster as well, god and i get to go to the
concert tonight wow  i feel too spoiled and i really wish there was some way
we all could meet the girls and go to small concerts like these.. :) happpy
indigo thought!! ryan

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hey this is cute - thought i'd share.

i'm listening to a local college station playing angry punk. they had this
great mr. rogers sound bite:

(imagine mr. rogers cadence)
"do you have a song that you can sing when you're feeling angry? .......
here's a song that says, "i'm angry. i'm very, very angry""

then very loud, very angry punk song (sorry, don't know who).

how cute is this? it really works. i gotta find this mr. rogers snippet
somewhere. if anybody out there has it please get in touch!
-sue

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carolyn chow <egg@u.washington.edu>
>>well, one time i saw amy running in the streets of olympia right before an
ani difranco show. this was when she was traveling with ani.  she was
wearing really tight, ugly orange sweatpants, and was running down the
street near the theatre.  funny, too, because when shaming of the sun came
out, hey kind friend had a line about running down on capitol lane in
olympia.  that was cool to hear.

so you were, in effect, there, actually present as amy was writing a song.
not only that you saw her jogging! oh my god, how are you still alive to
speak of this?!

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every once in a while i go back and check the faq before i ask the list
a question.  today's questions was about "115 you are 17" and sure
enough it was in the faq.  well i came across this today in the
miscellaneous questions after the sots info and had a good laugh:

"17.3. why aren't "winthrop" and "chiapas bound" on "shaming of the
    sun"?

amy and emily have mentioned that their next album will most likely
have a more acoustic, "folky" sound.  although it is not certain,
emily's "winthrop" (a solo, piano-based song) and amy's "chiapas
bound" (a solo, guitar-based song) will probably be on the next album
instead."

a more *folky* sound??  lol!

just a giggle. :)

jean


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at 02:30 pm 11/12/1999 -0800, jean moses wrote:

[as quoted from the faq]
>"17.3. why aren't "winthrop" and "chiapas bound" on "shaming of the
>    sun"?
>
>amy and emily have mentioned that their next album will most likely
>have a more acoustic, "folky" sound.  although it is not certain,
>emily's "winthrop" (a solo, piano-based song) and amy's "chiapas
>bound" (a solo, guitar-based song) will probably be on the next album
>instead."
>
>a more *folky* sound??  lol!

well, it *does*!  in spots.  ;)
aside from the lack of "winthrop" and "chiapas bound."  *sigh*  but yeah,
that more folky sound is definitely there.  it's rubbing elbows with a
really rockin' sound, but it's there.  ;)


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hello everyone!!!  i've been off of the list for a while..but seeing as how i
usually just lurk around you wouldn't have known that...
anyway, i'm wondering if anyone would be kind enough to make me a copy of the
3 cd set ...um, i don't even remember what it was called.  but it was a
compilation made by someone on the list.    i don't have anything to
trade..but i'd do a 2 for 1...or whatever..
thanks!!!  christy

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jean moses wrote:

> "17.3. why aren't "winthrop" and "chiapas bound" on "shaming of the
>     sun"?
>
> a more *folky* sound??  lol!

actually, from what i understand, they were intending to do a more
folksy record this time around, and then got fired up with the lilith
fair evening jam sessions and the new band overseas, etc.  remember,
they rarely know how a record is going to end up when they start writing
for it...  the early press on cons even had them saying stuff like
"yeah, it was going to be more folky, but here is what we ended up
with."

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hey yall

guess what, i have soooo many boots that i hardly ever listen too.  they need
good homes!!!!  if you are interested, i'll send you the list of ones i have
and all i ask is postage and the cost of a blank tape...i spent so much money
trying to aquire them all, and i feel really bad parting with them, but i
just never listen anymore and they are taking up space.  so anyway, e mail me
if interested!

r

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hi all,

i have a quick question i hope someone can help me.  i'm having someone buy a hat for me at an upcoming concert cause they didn't have them yet when i saw the girls last month and i was wondering if someone could tell me how much they cost this year so i could send the appropriate funds to my friend.

please respond privately cause i'm signed up for the news-only list under a different address and i won't see any public responses.  thanks so much, folks!

peace,
melissa

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can anyone please email me and let me know how to temporarily get off the
list.  thanks.

lisa

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"chiapas bound" is folkie????


umm need i post a mp3 of say, amy's 33rd (hey my sister has the same
birthday - to the exact date, forgive me) birthday performance - which takes
any chickenman i've seen or heard and brings it to it's knees - i swear i
never have seen amy sooooooooooo into a song before as i saw this from
4/12/97 - unh - i was maybe ten feet from the stage - dead in front of her -
the thought of the show just gives me chills...


(and, my god, i heard dylan do "tangled up in blue"  last night...never
thought i would hear it - phil lesh was awesome too - too bad the batteries
of my deck died as i was taping (i dunno how the digital camera did...)

mike r.

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date:         fri, 12 nov 1999 21:29:33 -0500
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sorry to bug you all - is kmtt re-broadcasting this or real networks - i
have people in seattle who would send it next day air if  it is on the radio
(i think) or is it a real re-broadcast (and can someone please tell us how
long it is, where the tape flips are, where the second cd begins (if
applicable) and a correct setlist????


this isn't specific to ryan (you are far too awesome) but i think i can burn
it from g2 if everything is working...

the above info make life that much easier.

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date:         fri, 12 nov 1999 21:35:10 est
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here is a little side note of interest to all gd fans on the list:

<http://www.livedaily.com/archive/1999/9911/wk2/aristarecordsreleasesgrat.html
>
arista records releases grateful dead retrospective

peace,

jude :)

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<http://www.sonicnet.com/news/archive/story.jhtml?id=519912>
grateful dead box set targets diehards, newcomers

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earlier i posted: "on november 13 @ 7 pm pst (that is 4 hours later for you
right coasters) kmtt will rebroadcast the ig bumbershoot show."

please note that since day light savings time is no more on the east coast,
this event will take place *3* hours later making it 10 p.m.  whatever.  it
is still very late to require hand to eye coordination with the mouse ;)

jude :)

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where is the faq? i think i had a copy but alas, no more.
lisa

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hey everyone, i am new to this list. i don't know what has taken me so long
to get on it, i have been a fan for a while now. i am a grad student at nyu
who just recently moved to the nyc area. i have been listening to the indigo
girls more recently because i am in the process of "coming out" and i find it
really sets my mind at ease. i haven't told family and have only shared it
with a few close friends (and my therapist). if anyone has any thoughts on
this i would be curious to know some of your experiences. sorry for the
non-indigo girls post. it would just be nice to know others have been through
this.
thanks,
michelle

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thanks to those who showed me the link to the faq...i'm so goofy, i never
noticed the little link to it before on this page :p
the faq is very informative :)
lisa

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not gonna post it here . . . it's not that long, but i figured i'd spare
y'all.  ;)

but i did put it up on my page:
http://silverflame.simplenet.com/indigoessays/spotlight.html

i've been on a total emotional high ever since the concert, and that little
essay was my best attempt at capturing some of what i've been feeling ever
since.  my imagination got to working during the show, and i kinda went
with it . . .


battle on,
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in a message dated 11/13/99 1:26:59 am eastern standard time,
indigrrl@mail.gn1.net writes:

<< http://silverflame.simplenet.com/indigoessays/spotlight.html
  >>
shanie, you are a really good writer, and i love your site!   the concert was
a week ago, and it was just ending about now...it still embodies me and holds
a grip on me ~ i experienced a lot of emotion and all of the music was so
frekkin tight!   i don't know when i have heard a group of musicians play so
fluidly and yet so tightly.   it was one of the best, if not the best,
concerts i have ever experienced.  "faye tucker" transcended glory, i can't
listen to it on the cons cd any longer because it was so awesome live....i'll
get over it, though.  the whole show was great, so i really can't single
anything out.  i have had several friends ask for a critique of the show, but
i can't honestly give one....i am too close to the music and loved what i saw
and felt too much.   if wishes were changes, and i lived in indigo heaven,
(although the concert was perfect, in my eyes), i would have added
"watershed," "wood song," love's recovery," "prince of darkness" and
"airplane" to the set list...as well as "hammer and a nail" ~ but everything
they did was so gratifying that it is hard to ask for more.

so i won't.  with all my power, if i can get the time from work, i will go
and see them again in  ypsilanti.  the year of change...

peace....and thanks...


vicki

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omigawdess! we just got out of the show and i daresay it was even better
than portland.

here's the setlist:
trouble
shame on you
least complicated
ozziline
soon be to nothing
shed your skin (which just rocked)
peace tonight
johnny rotten
compromise
virginia woolf (breanna's fave)
gone again
cold beer & remote control
chickenman (w/ guest from billy tipton mem. quartet)
closer to fine
faye tucker
get out the map
go

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philosophy of loss (breanna thinks this song is really good, especially for
someone coming from a fundamentalist family)

do you wanna touch (w/ the butchies)
galileo

the crowd was downright rowdy! really great energy tonight. while amy may
have seemed tired in portland, she was on tonight! i love watching that
woman throw her whole being into songs like ft and go and then chickenman.

i really hope someone got a good boot because we decided to take the night
off, it being bre's birthday and all. it was also really great to eat with
the crowd at teh listmeet. thai heaven has probably the best phad thai in
town.

the butchies had much better sound tonight. they are so fun to watch. and i
could actually hear some of the lyrics.  and when they came out to do do you
wanna touch with the girls...well, it was almost indescribable. i am like,
on a high right now and feel like i'm not making much sense so i'll let
others fill in the holes.

ryan

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this just in...

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~~indigo girls direct news flash~~

we are truly sorry to report that tomorrow's nov. 13th webcast of the
indigo girls' bumbershoot show has been cancelled. :((
you'll be the first ones to know when we hear of a re-scheduled date.

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at 12:10 am 11/13/1999 -0800, ryan blackhawke wrote:

>philosophy of loss (breanna thinks this song is really good, especially for
>someone coming from a fundamentalist family)

wlaugh!!!!!!!
someone better have bootlegged this one . . . i got blank tapes aplenty . . .


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gotta concur with ryan on this one...this was a kick ass show in every way,
shape and form.  and we had much better seats tonight...we were 4th row,
right in front of amy...it was amazing!  i got one of her picks at the end of
the show, and it's sad, but after 10 years of waiting outside in the freezing
cold and never being able to meet them, i am absolutely thrilled.
ahahahahahaha.

i thought i was going to die when they did "do you wanna touch," which amy
prefaced with, "are there any joan jett fans out there?"  i, of course, went
absolutely nuts.  ohhhhhhh my!  it was so awesome. :)  i really, really hope
someone booted this show as well, because that alone was worth it. :)

i'm sad this week is over though...i haven't done two ig shows practically
back to back since i was a teenager...lol.

guess it's back to listening to cons. ;)

mis

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she was wearing the jersy when i was backstage and the whole soccer team had
signed it too! then they all took a picture together!! in the picture i have
with me and her i think she has it off though :) but she did look great!

<snip>
>when i walked back there they were
> talking to the us womens olympic soccer team who had seen the show!  and
then
> i talked to each of them individually. and i must say .. they glow and they
> are so warm and friendly to their fans.. genuine.. real.. the pressence of a
> higher power!!... i swear.. and i got pictures and autographs and joked with
> them a little! amazing!!
<snip>

hiya,

the pictures you took, you wouldn't happen to have
one of amy wearing the us soccer jersey (i read from
another post she was wearing one at one point), would you?
my next favorite thing after the indigo girls, is soccer,
especially the us nat'l team!

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hi all,

this article appeared in the november 12 deseret news,
which thanks to my mom was waiting for me on top of a
container of chocolate chip cookies when i got home
from work this morning (that woman does know me).
it's written by dainon moody, and there is a cute
little picture along with the article (like the one on
in the cornfield in cons only amy doesn't look so
hostile and emily doesn't have that mischievious
smile).  anyway, here goes...

lucky usu books ig's; suggestion that was made in jest
pays off: duo accepts.

utah state university got lucky.  really lucky.  when
activities vice president mandy leishman joked with
other members of the associated students of utah state
university (asusu) about trying to get the indigo
girls to come to logan, that's really all it was-a big
joke. but they put the request in anyway, and it just
so happened that the indigo girls were planning their
tour and accepted.  now the laughs are more of
delight.  the indigo girls will play the dee glenn
smith spectrum wednesday on the usu campus in logan.
the show starts at 8 p.m.  in planning its annual week
of welcome, asusu was looking for bands to help
welcome students back to campus.  they were looking
for small acts, mostly-the samples was one idea, the
connells another. once upon a time, bands like oingo
boingo and chicago played usu, but it's been at least
five years since a band as widely renowned as the
indigo girls has played there.  but emily saliers,
half of the popular folk rock duo (with amy ray), says
that just makes her look forward to the concert even
more.  "those shows tend to be the most exciting,"
saliers said during a phone interview from dallas.
"the crowd isn't spoiled by seeing other concerts, and
it becomes a special event for them.  besides, we
really like playing places we've never played before."
students snatched up nearly 1000 tickets to the show
on the first day they were sold, which is impressive
considering that just under 6000 are available.  this
tour is in support of "come on now social," the indigo
girls seventh album in 10 years together.  the title
comes from an unfinished song called "the measure of
me," which amy ray is writing.  it's meant to be a
beckoning for people to take part in the world,
saliers said.  since their major label debut in 1989,
with "indigo girls" going double platinum and the duo
earning a grammy as best contemporary folk group the
same year, saliers and ray have struggled to break
free of their reputation as a folk band.  it's not
easy, either, when the majority of the radio listening
population associates the musicians with "closer to
fine."  "it's difficult because radio is an avenue for
exposure," saliers said.  "usually the songs they play
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are never indicative of the breadth of the album.
'closer to fine' did really well, but people assume
we're a couple of guitar strumming women, when our
music is more expansive than that.  it really makes it
difficult to try to give them a fresh album."  with
the new album, they've done their best to convince
listeners they're anything but folk.  with a punk
song, some mor ballads and horn based numbers, they
show just how expansive their music is.  the fact that
sheryl crow and joan osbourne perform doesn't hurt,
either.  even rolling stone likes the album.  "i hate
to admit it, but when rolling stone gives you the
thumbs up, it's good," saliers said.  "it causes
people to check into your music more.  we have
wonderful fans, but we would like to keep going."
and, admittedly, the indigo girls have been around
longer than many groups, which goes beyond singing
together-they were also high school friends.  one has
to appreciate what the band members do and really
respect them as people, or it is not worth it,
according to saliers.  other tips she offers to bands
that are on the verge of breaking up: keep your ego in
check and have a good time.  for the record, saliers
and ray are writing music for themselves not the
public.  a good number of their songs are largely tied
to environmental issues or women's rights, because
those are issues the band is passionate about.  but
the indigo girls write about other things, too.
saliers laughs.  "we've actually written a number of
love songs as well."

later,
diana

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who's opening for a/e in chi?

i got tickets wayyy up in the balcony...but...hell, at least i got tickets,
right?

-mel \7


"i think it's either better this year or worse"
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so does anyone have a copy of the seattle show?? i'd love to hear the joan
jett song with the butchies...i've never heard the butchies...
just curious
lisa (whose berkeley boots are pretty shitty... :(  yuk)

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hey y'all,

listen to the teenybopper inside all of you and go get the newest issue of
teen people when it comes out. there's a mighty fetchin' pic of the girls
(w/amy's tattoo and all) and a little article. they're on the cover page
of an article about out celebrities.

just thot y'all might be interested.

amy m.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
saliers/ray '00!
*write 'em in* !
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                -the goddess, amy ray

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just another 'wow' post on the seattle concert. oh please let there be a
boot out there....

the crowd was just great and amy and emily both kept saying how much
they like playing in seattle. the lovely sulli gave me a set list
(johnny rotten is listed as johnny rottentale). "this is for you girls
rule", referring to my hat....sulli rules.

amy was interacting with a  little kid sitting in the front row (i was
in the 3rd row - great seat). the kid held up a sign requesting
chickenman which  they filled because on the set list there is a
question mark where chickman was actually sung. way to go kid. so, if
you want to get amy's attention bring a small child or reasonable
facsimile to the concert. there is an interview with amy in the local
bellingham free paper this week, 'the every other weekly'  in which amy
talks about maybe  having a kid within the next two years so i guess
she's got the maternal thing going on. i'll type up the rest of the
interview if i get time this weekend. you'll make a great father, ryan!

no crossword talk but amy kind of laughed when i asked how the crossword
was going.

fashion report: sulli and i were wearing the same fish/snowflake, who's
know what the heck it means, ig thermal.

great to see you again ryan! wish i could have made the list meet.

on the way back to vancouver kmtt play about 4 ig songs in a row, all
live recordings including 'rockin in the free world' with k's choice
recorded in atlanta! i thought i had a boot tape in until i realized it
was the radio. what a great station, you lucky seattle dawgs.

helen
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don't want to know otherwise! :)

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date:         sat, 13 nov 1999 16:42:35 -0800
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i've been tring to figure out a good place to go for a listmeet in
eugene... and i think i've finnally picked one (unless anyone has any
better ideas)... andrew smash... it's a restaurant i've been wanting to
try or almost 2 years, but haven't managed it yet... but i've heard
great things about it...

if you wanna find out about the food (all meatless, and supposedly
great), check out www.andrewsmash.com.  anyway, it's at 840 willamette
street, about a block and a half from the hult center... if you need
directions, drop me a note.

since the concert starts at 8pm, i figure we should start the listmeet
at about 6:30... i promise to be there this time... ;-)

hope to see some of you there...

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date:         sat, 13 nov 1999 20:09:53 est
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sunday, oct. 31, 1999--sdsu open air theatre

go
ozilline
gone again
peace tonight
cold beer and remote control
trouble
sister
closer to fine
shame on you
get out the map
scooter boys
shed your skin
galileo
don't break my heart slow (em&vonda)
soon to be nothing
faye tucker
power of two (em-"i really fucked that up, lets start from the lead solo")
virginia woolf (i cried)
3 hits
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los angeles--thurs. nov 4, wiltern theatre

go
gone again
trouble
peace tonight
ozilline
cold beer and remote control
compromise
faye tucker
shame on you
get out the map
shed your skin
closer to fine
scooter boys
galileo
prince of darkness
kid fears
least complicated
3 hits
power of 2
----the sound was much better in san diego. when amy sang "it's not for the
weather" she looked up and around at the beautiful evening sky...
-----in la, amy said it was the best la audience they'd ever had.  emily
asked someone" who just screamed? was it you? are you from georgia? you
scream like you're from georgia.."

<<each life has its place>>

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date:         sat, 13 nov 1999 20:50:19 -0500
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but i really gotta know:  where can i find the early albums?  tuesday's
children, blue food, etc.

ya know the ones that you can't just go an pick up at the mainstream record
store.

thanks y'all (ya'll) (aw hell whatever)

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date:         sat, 13 nov 1999 22:19:24 est
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i've got a question about the three hits single.  does anyone know the dates
or venues for the 4 live tracks:
galileo
joking
ghost
jonas & ezekial

any info would be appreciated.

cheers,
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date:         sat, 13 nov 1999 10:04:42 -0800
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i just saw the best movie: "being john malkovich". weird, hilarious,
weirdly hilarious, minor lesbian content.  go see it. is it strange to
be sharing movie recommendations with 800 strangers united only by their
devotion to a musical duo?

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date:         sun, 14 nov 1999 03:08:25 -0500
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hey everybody.  i have tickets to see the ig in atlanta in december and i was wondering if anyone who has seen them thus far on the cons tour can tell me what the shirts for sale look like and the approximate prices.  also, are there any cool random things for sale like tour books or anything?  i'm just trying to plan the budget!!!  thanks everyone!
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date:         sun, 14 nov 1999 00:16:19 pst
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hasn't anyone on this list ever done anything that unintentioanlly hurt
someone else? this is an unforgivable crime?  or are we all perfect here?


someone not even considering forgiving you for something that was an
accident in the first place, something you genuinely apologized for, and
then leaving an indigo girls show would seem to me to be in an extreme mood.
if somebody hit me accidentally at a concert and then apologied and
obviously felt truly bad i know i would say "no problem" and keep on
dancing. am i the only one who feels this way?

julie
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> << i just wanna say that
>  it wasn't just cindy who thought their vibe was yucky, i thought so too.
>>
>
> all i can say is so what????   i kind of sense yucky vibes all over the
> place, right now.  who cares?  you hit this woman on the head!  how easy
and
> shallow it is for you to say "her vibe was yucky,"  after you go and bop
her,
> dancing obliviously or not.  if you all didn't feel so damn guilty you
> wouldn't keep defending this lame issue.  give it up already.    and
> remember, be kind to strangers and quit hitting people!


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date:         sun, 14 nov 1999 00:34:06 -0800
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i realize i sound utterly clueless here.  but anyway.

okay, so in "we are together," what exactly does emily mean by "low to the
ground, high in the holler?"
i've a feeling that i should know the phrase, but i just can't place it.


battle on,
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poke them so full of holes!"  -- kerry stuart in "tropical storm," by
melissa good

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date:         sun, 14 nov 1999 00:41:26 +0000
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okay, i was going to spare everyone my rant on this but since it isn't dying
because some people continue to be incredibly mean, i just have to do it. i
just do not understand how some of you can be so incredibly harsh about
something that was an accident that was bound to happen at some point during a
concert. big deal. get over it. this is just like what happened to my friend
mary at an ig concert at champoeg. she bent over to pick up her backpack,
brushing again someone in front of her in the process. this someone happened
to be a fellow listee (who i still hold a low opinion of) who proceeded to
bitch out my friend thoroughly (claiming she was pushing, which she was
absolutely not doing) for what was minimal unintentional contact in a crowded
space. if you're at a concert and someone makes contact with you, get over it
and get on with life unless they're trying to cop a feel or something. geez.
-sam (word of the day for jane: pyloric)

> > all i can say is so what????   i kind of sense yucky vibes all over the
> > place, right now.  who cares?  you hit this woman on the head!  how easy
> and
> > shallow it is for you to say "her vibe was yucky,"  after you go and bop
> her,
> > dancing obliviously or not.  if you all didn't feel so damn guilty you
> > wouldn't keep defending this lame issue.  give it up already.    and
> > remember, be kind to strangers and quit hitting people!

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date:         sun, 14 nov 1999 20:03:18 +1100
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hey all :)

joined the list again after a break of a few years, coz i wanted to hear
people's views on the new album. to show how 'out of it' this time around,
i wasn't even aware that the new album was released until abt 2 weeks
later. *grumble* i was prowling record shops on the release date itself
when sots was released. oh well.

anyway, on first listen, i was quite disappointed. i had heard 'go' on the
kosovo cd before and was blown by it then, so i was pleased it was on this
album. however, there weren't a lot of songs that i loved instantly. i'm
more partial towards amy so it is no surprise that the key tracks for me
were 'go', 'gone again' and 'ozilline'.. but i grew to love 'andy' too. i
don't think it's their best album but it grows on you after a few listens.

i see that amy has done another of her 'geographical' songs, the first one
(to me) being 'hey kind friend' with references to spokane, olympia,
victoria (island?) and other places of the pacific northwest. i am talking
abt 'gone again', although 'sister' mentions alabama and a few other
places. it is always a thrill when one  of your favourite artistes mentions
your hometown, even if she's mangled the pronounciation like she did with
spokane. (it's mel-burn, rather than mel-born :p) i did ask a couple of my
(lesbian) friends if the rainbow room meant anything to them but the
general consensus was that it might have been a club that had closed down.
(you know how clubs come and go..).

listening to 'faye tucker' for the first time was a really chilling
experience. i was hurtling down a freeway when amy started singing, only
her voice, so stark. as i listened to the first verse, my eyes went wide,
the hair on the back of my neck stood up and i was just gripped... with
fear? horror? i don't know. i just went on auto-pilot for a few minutes...
though i did notice that one of the main freeway exits i passed was,
ironically, police road. i have never really given much thought to the
death penalty issue (never really disagreed strongly with it) but perhaps
i'll try to find out more abt it. quite strange but the verse that starts
"if you live they're going to make you a campaigner.." reminded me of that
song 'i'm an asshole' by dennis leary (?). also, i am curious as to whether
the bit at the end of the song was celtic instrumentation mixed with
indian-influenced vocals.. or?

i really liked the feeling (kinda rebellious?) of the song 'go' but i don't
really have a clue what it's all about. does it mean that one should not be
complacent, that one should always challenge the status quo? and when is a
person too old to care and too young to count? if by 'count' she means
'vote', i doubt that many 18 year olds would have had their ideals been
beaten down into the 'yeah, i'll just join the rat-race and not care' phase
of life by then. go reminds me of a poem called on the move (sub-titled
'man, you gotta go') by a favourite poet of mine called thom gunn, which ends:

"at worst, one is in motion; and at best,
reaching no absolute, in which to rest,
one is always nearer by not keeping still."

'trouble' was a surprise: a loud emily song filled with lots of electric
guitars!?! it worked well though, and i quite like it. i wonder if i am
mistaken but there seems to be an awful lot of banjos on this album. it
gives the album a country-ish, backwoods-usa feel, e.g. 'gone again' and
'ozilline'. not that i hate it or anything... just...different.

as for the various guests, the only one i really noticed was that really
funky bassline in 'we are together', by me'shell ndegeocello. as for the
rest of that song, well, that bit abt the dog and the rabbit is so inane.
*rolls eyes* hmm... it had to be an emily song. *duck* oh ok..
reconcillatory gesture.. i really love 'andy'. it is a gem of rare beauty.
i missed it the first time around but it is my favourite song from the
album today (i have had the album 2 days and it's been going round and
round). it would be a really good love song.. but it's about unrequited
love, no?

well, that's it for now. if there is a place i can find past list digests,
i would appreciate the url :)


-mel c. (aka cowjuice)

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>helen wrote:
>amy was interacting with a  little kid sitting in the front row (i was
>in the 3rd row - great seat). the kid held up a sign requesting
>chickenman which  they filled because on the set list there is a
>question mark where chickman was actually sung. way to go kid. so, if
>you want to get amy's attention bring a small child or reasonable
>facsimile to the concert.

that's my boy! he is going to be 6 on monday and i have been taking off
for shows all his life.
for about the last 2 years he has been asking to go too. i was lucky
enough to get front row seats to seattle, so i knew he wouldn't be
frustrated about being unable to see over the crowd.

chickenman is his favorite song, and i went to the portland & bellingham
shows previous to seattle where they sung it both times. i was hoping to
meet the girls at the kmtt private concert and request it then but they
did 4 songs and were gone. anyhoo, i felt there was a good chance they
might skip chickenman. they were making fun of the signs at another show
so i really didn't want to go that route, but who can resist a cute kid
with a sign? not amy! she gave a little nod of her head and then i had
to hide the sign from alex who wanted to keep waving it around.

as far as the private concert goes, it was great but short and we went
home with all our posters, cd's etc. unautographed. i wasn't going to
take any photos during the show but did bring my camera to get a shot
with the girls if we were able to meet. i changed my mind when i saw wll
the flashes going off and it didn't seem to bother them, so i took a few
shots. i brought gifts for a & e, and was left literally holding the
bag(s). sulli came out to do her thing so i asked her if she could get
my gifts to the girls. she is so great! she stopped what she was doing
and gave me her total attention and told me that she would see to it
that the little red bags would be in the dressing room before the show.
what a kind and wonderful person she is! she also tossed alex a pick
after the seattle pm. show. on the way to the car after, he asked me if
he could put a guitar on his christmas list to santa. i guess he wants
to use his pick. my heart was about bursting wide open.

i really didn't think about the milage involved when i bought tickets to
portland, bellingham & seattle shows, they were announced in that order
several weeks apart but thursday was a real tough day.
i drove home from portland, worked 4 hours, then up to b'ham and back.
yesterday kmtt and the seattle show at night. today i was not in any
state of reasonable conciousness until 5pm. i'm getting to old for this
but i wouldn't give it up for anything.

what can i say about the seattle show! it was just so incredible- the
people behind me all stood for the rocking stuff  & popular stuff, so i
could dance when i needed to. (and i need to dance to ig.)
it was so special sharing the experience with my son (he had earplugs to
protect his little self)
i will admit to bringing him for other reasons too, i was hoping to get
a little ig attention. when amy came over to us (twice!) and smiled he
was happy but i was a melted puddle on the floor.

and that encore number with the butchies really rocked my world. i
thought my legs would give out from all the bouncing around. somebody's
gotta have this and johnny rotten on tape!

those of you who get to meet amy & emily are so lucky. it's been 6 years
for me and no luck yet.
em did speak to me from the stage at portland, she or amy got the tour
itinerary messed up when they were announcing it and i was hollering the
dates in the correct order at them. em was repeating them back to me and
finally gave up, pointed at me and said "she knows!" (as in ask her...)
so i had a little emily attention at portland and a little amy (via
alex) in seattle. i will be trippin' on this for some time.

i hope they enjoyed my gifts i got emily a book, (a gracious plenty by
sheri reynolds) and made amy a copy of something i saw on hbo last
summer that was hilarious (eddie izzard: dress to kill). i also tucked
in a ty peace bear for amy - i suppose she's been given a few of those
already, but what the hey.

it was great seeing all my list and non-list show buddies; how about a
copy of those setlists? (you know who you are baybee)

well it's late and a little somebody is going to be up early so i'm
crossing my fingers my photos turn out...


paulal

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date:         sun, 14 nov 1999 10:32:33 -0500
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hi folks,

the holiday season is fast approaching and with it comes the ineveitable
migration of listees from school/work/other accounts for long periods of
time.

i know that no one wants to miss any list mail while they are gone, but
email accounts that do not pick up list mail for a long period of time
tend to bounce back a very large amount of error messages.

so, to avoid this situation, please do one of the following if you are
planning on being away from computer access for any length of time:

***send all commands to:  listserv@netpsace.org  ***

couple of days to two weeks:

use the no mail option.  this will temporarily put your subscription "on
hold".
        set indigo-girls nomail

and when you want to resume list mail:
        set indigo-girls mail

anything longer than two weeks:

please cancel your subscription.  you can then very easily resubscribe
at any time.

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if you have trouble executing any of these commands, let me know and
i'll take care of it from the listserv end.


thanks.

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date:         sun, 14 nov 1999 13:26:07 est
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can someone help me out with the origin of this song?  where can i find it in
its entirety?

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whoa!
a few more requests than i planned.
so, if you haven't emailed me yet, don't, 'cause i'm a little overwhelmed right
now.  if you have emailed me and haven't heard back, don't despair - i'll
contact you tomorrow when i have a little more time to recoup.

anna
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date:         sun, 14 nov 1999 12:22:14 -0800
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was it reserved seating? i had several people who rushed the center aisle
kicked out of the center aisle and told to get back to their seats here at
the seattle show. why? because it was reserved seating. and i didn't
appreciate having my perfect view blocked by kids rushing the stage (and
yes, they were kids in the 15-22 yr set and if you want to blame someone,
here i am).

perhaps the person who bitched out your friend doesn't do well with crowds.
i know i don't but does that mean i should just stay home and play age of
empires all day? (oh wait, i already do that...) no, of course not. i deal
the best i can. but sometimes, i'll get jostled one time too many and will
just snap, usually if the person is a drunken asshole and has bumped me more
than once. doesn't mean it's right but there may be extenuating
circumstances.

what is pyloric?

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> if you're at a concert and someone makes contact with you,
> get over it
> and get on with life unless they're trying to cop a feel or
> something. geez.
> -sam (word of the day for jane: pyloric)

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hi everybody. i've been gone from this scene for a long time..... my father
died suddenly of a heart attack last saturday. he was only 56. and since then
my world has stopped..... and will never be the same. he was an amazing
man......please keep him, me, and my family, in your prayers.
just wanted to let you all know.....
thank you,
karen

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hi everyone,

i found out today that the opener for the st. louis
show is mrs. fun.  i know nothing of this band.  does
anyone know who they are and their story?  what kind
of music do they play?  thanks alice

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alright, this is ultra-nerdy of me, but . . .

is anyone here on napster?  i think it'd be fun to know a couple of listees
on napster and share mp3s  . . . god, i'm a dork.

that's all.

thanks y'all,
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hey -

someone mentioned that mrs fun would be opening in st
louis - and they wanted to know more about
them...check out the daemon site - i was just looking
around there and saw some mrs fun stuff...happy
reading!

take it easy.
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date:         mon, 15 nov 1999 09:50:12 +1200
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>there is an interview with amy in the local
>bellingham free paper this week, 'the every >other weekly'  in which amy
>talks about maybe  having a kid within the >next two years so i guess
>she's got the maternal thing going on. i'll >type up the rest of the
>interview if i get time this weekend. you'll >make a great father, ryan!
>

that's surprising... more power to her i say... gees what a lucky kid..>! can you post the whole article?


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>>
>i found out today that the opener for the st. louis
>show is mrs. fun.  i know nothing of this band.  does
>anyone know who they are and their story?  what kind
>of music do they play?  thanks alice

mrs. fun are two milwaukee based musicians (i believe they are a couple)
named connie and kim. they are...an acquired taste. really fun to watch
cause they put everything into their playing but the music itself? i'm not
too sure about it. they use keyboards and drums when they play live. they
sang on swamp ophalia specifically touch me fall, in fact i think one of
them came up with the "all skate now reverse part." one of them works at
this health food store that i go to and i always want to run up to her and
say, "won't you please tell me the next time amy and emily are in town?"
cause ig always hang out with them on the east side of milw. when they play
there.

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>>there is an interview with amy in the local
>>bellingham free paper this week, 'the every >other weekly'  in which amy
>>talks about maybe  having a kid within the >next two years so i guess
>>she's got the maternal thing going on. i'll >type up the rest of the
>>interview if i get time this weekend. you'll >make a great father, ryan!
>>
>
>that's surprising...


so maybe that's what the whole "wish i was a mother, with a baby at my breast" thing was all about in sister?


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hmmm...

i love that song. it is definitely one of my favorites, and if i ever find the
time and the luck to assemble an entire band to play music together, that will
be one cover we have to do.

but, it is awfully abstract. and the one part i really don't get is the "all
skate" part. are there any insights into this line?

peace pride and pickles,
meredith

>(mrs. fun) sang on swamp ophalia specifically touch me fall, in fact i >think
one of them came up with the "all skate now reverse part."


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>>
but, it is awfully abstract. and the one part i really don't get is the "all
skate" part. are there any insights into this line?

it's what gets said at skating rinks. mrs fun and ig were just fooling
around in the studio and someone (i think connie or kim) started saying
that and amy liked it and put it at the begining of touch me fall. as far
as i know that's the extent of it's meaning.

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at 06:08 pm 11/14/1999 -0600, sarah t. rosenblum wrote:

>but, it is awfully abstract. and the one part i really don't get is the "all
>skate" part. are there any insights into this line?
>
>it's what gets said at skating rinks. mrs fun and ig were just fooling
>around in the studio and someone (i think connie or kim) started saying
>that and amy liked it and put it at the begining of touch me fall. as far
>as i know that's the extent of it's meaning.

amy's said that "touch me fall" is a song about change; "all skate, now
reverse" indicates a change in direction.  however it came up in the
studio, i'm pretty sure that amy included it since it fits, thematically,
with the song.


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and the one part i
> really don't get is the "all
> skate" part. are there any insights into this line?

i read somewhere that "all skate now reverse" came
from their experience at a roller rink the night
before or something.  the announcer would call this
during the skate.  amy thought it went well with the
song - sort of a past/present/future thing, and the
circle of life i think. hope that helps, maybe i can
find where i read that...
laurel :)

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