lifeblood: listlogs: 1999-11d


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date:         sun, 21 nov 1999 17:01:35 -0700
reply-to:     garian <vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu>
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hi everyone,

i don't have time for a full review, but let me just say:

front row, whoo-hooo, i'm gonna be on a video!!!
johnny rotten, compromise, sys *and* scooterboys!!!!
encore:  powderfinger!  they totally rocked my world and i don't know if i
can recover!

and i must also publically apologize to joanne.  again: i am very sorry
that i am such an obsessed psycho spazz!

garian

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 12:48:31 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

these messages were sent to the news-only list but are more
appropriate for here instead (i'll send the news list a
condensed version)... please direct any responses to the
original sender at nakedeye10@aol.com, not to me...

thanks,
sherlyn


---begin forwarded message #1---
>from: nakedeye10@aol.com
>date: sun, 21 nov 1999 03:26:38 est
>subject: ig 11/19 denver fillmore review
>
>hello girls and boys,
>
>now that i'm somewhat recovered from yesterday's indigo adventure, i thought
>you all might appreciate the blow by blow.
>
>first, some quick context on me.  i'm one of the hardcore, travelling, front
>row fans.  i was supposed to be in the front row at the two la wiltern shows
>and in the first few rows for the two berkeley shows (not to mention the sf
>in-store), but a car accident forced me to cancel that trip, as well as the
>night before last's show in laramie, wy (which got mediocre reviews from the
>folks i talked to).  but even in my injured state, i simply *couldn't* miss
>my two local shows.
>
>being a ga show, we spent the entire day outside of the new denver fillmore
>in a questionable sort of neighborhood.  (last time ig was here sans lilith,
>they played in this same building, but before the massive remodel, it was an
>awful place called mammoth gardens.  now it's a rather nice version of the
>type of venue it is.)
>
>it was a long day, as ga lines always are when you want to be in the front,
>but all the folks were friendly, the weather was unseasonably agreeable
(with
>some people even donning shorts), and the music was booming from the boxes.
>
>the only problem with being in line is that we weren't home to tape a&e's
>appearance at kbco's studio c, but at least we had multiple stereos tuned in
>for the event.  (they played closer to fine and gone again.  what they
>chatted about, i've already forgotten.)
>
>due to the late hour of studio c, soundcheck didn't start until fairly
late.
>the good news is that we could hear it.
>
>doors were supposed to be at 6:30, but due to everything running behind, we
>didn't actually get in until some time closer to 7.  unfortunately, there
>wasn't very good internal fillmore communication, so we spent an
unneccessary
>amount of time poised at the ready outside.  oh, well.
>
>shawn mullins opened, coming on right about 8 and playing for close to a
full
>hour.  personally, i would have much rather heard vonda or michelle, but
>nobody asked me.  he was pleasant enough, but didn't impress me in the
>slightest.  (it's actually the third time i've seen him, and tonight will be
>the fourth.)
>
>a&e finally took the stage close to 9:30.  i was in the front row, almost
>dead center, just a smidgen towards amy side.  (i have this real thing about
>being in the front row, anywhere between the two of them.)
>
>the walked on stage to a roaring, sold out crowd, strapped on the electric
>guitars and tore through a rockin' version of "go."  i see somewhere in the
>neighborhood of 50 concerts a year, and imo, they rock as hard as most
anyone
>in r&r.
>
>next up was "trouble."  not a personal favorite.  i like emily rocking out,
>but the song feels to me like a collection of unfinished ideas.  all in all,
>though, it came off well.
>
>oh, before i go further...the band.
>two thumbs up on new drummer, blair cunningham.  i was always a big fan of
>jerry's and was very disappointed by john reynolds this summer.  he may be a
>great guy and a creative force in the studio, but he didn't do it for me on
>stage.  i can't understate the importance of a strong drummer to me, and
>blair cuts it.
>
>also two thumbs up on bassist claire kenney.  i always enjoyed sara lee, and
>she was always very gracious, but i'm much more impressed with claire.  such
>a strong rythm section on stage makes me *really* sorry that i missed those
>ca shows!
>
>carol isaacs on keys, accordian, pennywhistle (i think), and a variety of
>other instruments was perfectly fine but not particularly notable to me.
>
>and caroline xxx on cello didn't really capture my interest much at all
>(although her cello was a very cool looking instrument).  one of the friends
>i was with was rather negative in her review, but like i said, i tend to
>focus on the basics (guitars, bass, drums, and vocals).
>
>apologies to anyone whose name i may have mispelled.  i didn't check my cons
>liner notes and there was no tour program for sale.  :-(
>
>back to the show...
>
>the band left the stage, leaving a&e alone with acoustic guitars.  much to
>the crowd's delight, they played a duo acoustic "reunion."
>
>the band came back for a pleasant but not particularly impressive "peace
>tonight" followed by a full band, acoustic guitar fronted "chickenman."
(i'm
>not fond of either song, so they have to be particularly exceptional to
>impress me.)
>
>next, they toned things done and did "andy," after which they thanked the
>packed, standing room crowd for being so quiet and respectful.  very nice.
>
>btw, the denver area has always been one of their strongest
>markets/audiences.  kbco in boulder has been a supporter since the first
>album, and they were selling 8000 red rocks tix when they were still playing
>small theaters in many other places.  this is an audience that knows their
ig
>material, and it showed.  i think that's probably why denver was picked for
>tonight's videotaping.
>
>next up was "ozilene."  during the intro, amy told a cute little story about
>having to get her grandma's permission for the song.  after reviewing the
>finished product, grandma's response was, "great bass."  amy thought that
>made her one cool grandma.  this song made some of the drunk women next to
me
>very happy.
>
>(the group who was first in line were absolutely delighful company outside,
>but once they got inside, they were guzzling and spilling beer like there
was
>not tomorrow, screaming, and whistling.  twas a drag.  but if one of you is
>reading this, i will make good on the offer i made in exchage for the
>chilling on the whistles and screaming.  just email me.)
>
>then came the highlight of the show for me, "least complicated."  almost the
>entire crowd was singing along.  the energy was absolutely great.  i think
we
>gave that philly crowd on 1200 curfews a run for their money!
>
>again, the duo acoustic setup (nobody else on stage) for an enthusiastic and
>rousing "closer to fine."  it was nice to see this song addressed in a
>different manner.  it worked very well here.  often times at r&r shows,
>performers will have an audience sing certain lines or the chorus.  but with
>such a vocal crowd, they had us sing the entire last verse.  (i dropped by
>the bar...)  it was great.  only other time i've seen this is at bruce
>springsteen concerts - another brilliant performer with a knowledgable,
>fanatical following.)
>
>"shed your skin" rocked, as it always does.  i love this one.  not the best
>version i've seen, but a good one.  (last time in denver at mammoth, their
>version of this one along with openers mrs. fun was absolutely phenomenal.)
>
>next, everyone left the stage except for amy.  nobody around me believed me
>when i said it would be "romeo and juliet," but sure enough...  it doesn't
>quite pack the same punch it did back in '92 when amy sang it with such a
>passionate edge, but it was still a real treat.  at first it was hard for
her
>to focus with everyone singing along, but she managed to slip into the
groove.
>
>"airplane" completely shifted the mood.  not a favorite, but it was sort of
>charming.  a&e were the only ones playing instruments, but the whole band
was
>on stage lending vocal help.  good vibes.
>
>"faye tucker" was the compelling piece that it always is.
>
>"get out the map" was charming.  a friend i was with thought it was
>exceptional.
>
>finally, they closed with a rousing version of "shame on you."
>
>they stepped off stage for a minute or so and then came back on with emily
>acknowledging that encores are kind of silly.
>
>a lovely version of "ghost," followed by amy talking about having the whole
>day off in denver the next day.  she then said that what she really wanted
to
>know was the best thrift store in town.  someone behind me handed me a note
>to give her with a suggestion.  she couldn't see me through the lights, so
>after a minute of trying, i gave the note to a security guard who went
>backstage to hand it off.  then someone gave me another one.  this time, amy
>came across to the edge of the stage and tried to reach across the 4'
barrier
>to my outstretched hand.  after much prompting from the crowd, emily got her
>to read it out loud.  apparently someone humbly offered to be a tour guide
>for the day.  very cute little interlude.
>
>then they played "gone again," my friend barry's favorite off the new one,
>followed by "galileo," the happy sing along.
>
>nothing out of the ordinary, but it was a very good show with a very good
>crowd.  if i hadn't been doped up on my painkillers, i would've been even
>happier than i was.  thank goodness for percoset and ice!
>
>also, many thanks to everyone who helped me out, and especially to my friend
>elizabeth who is holding my place in line so that i can take care of my body
>for the first half of the day.
>
>hope this has been a fun read for all.
>
>lauren

---begin forwarded message #2---
>from: nakedeye10@aol.com
>date: sun, 21 nov 1999 03:27:05 est
>subject: embarrassing corrections - den fillmore 11/19
>
>
>first, while i wrote it down on my setlist, when writing my review, i
>neglected to mention "compromise."  not a particular favorite on the album,
>it kicks ass on stage.  this one came between "least complicated and "closer
>to fine."  my friend jill caught this as she was reading a paper copy of the
>review in line tonight.
>
>then while in the house waiting for the show, it dawned on me that i
>neglected to write down "cold beer and remote control."  i wasn't 100%
>certain, but i was pretty sure that this one was slipped in between "shed
>your skin" and "romeo and juliet."  after tonight's show, i confirmed it
>against last night's "official" setlist (thanks scooter!), and my
>memory/logic was right on.
>

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date:         sun, 21 nov 1999 20:53:21 est
reply-to:     lisa071573@aol.com
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from:         lisa r <lisa071573@aol.com>
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hello...so no one still knows about dateline?? anyway...i have hard rock live
on tape if anyone wants a copy..also, i'm trading some tori with a girl who
has a copy of the first berkeley show so hopefully i'll be getting that soon
and hopefully it'll sound better than my copy...

lisa

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 14:59:29 +0900
reply-to:     "karen, the biggest indigo girls bitch of japan"
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i got my copy of the recent world cafe ig broadcast in the mail today.  all i can say is that it totally rocks!  i love how the girls are so willing to and open about all of those great social causes. it gives their music so much more validity.  if other artists could emulate them, i think everyone would be more socially aware.

speaking of social awarness, tomorrow i am going back to hiroshima to drop off the cranes.  could amy clements please e-mail me?  i got your cranes, and i wanted to thank you and ask you a question.

ok, sorry for the off topicness... (is that a word?)

:-) karen
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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 01:19:47 est
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hello all!

wow, this is a record for me...2 e-mails in 1 week.  anyway, i was wondering
if anyone out there lives in the long beach area.  i'm going to be moving out
there in a few weeks and i would love to talk to someone who lives in the
area.  hope to hear from someone, anyone soon!!   christy

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 13:16:06 +0100
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two ewes! (november 22nd - 28th)

november 22
reb22@hermes.cam.ac.uk (rachael e. bradley)

luna-tick@home.com (luna mook tick)

november 23
rcn@prcn.org (kim fischer)
"pain from pearls -hey little girl
how much have you grown?"

november 23
rgcs1123@aol.com (rena)
"so i know i'm all right
life will come and life will go"

november 23 ('77)
vmenanteau@aol.com (erika menanteaux)

gitroop@aol.com (erin tripp)

november 24 ('75)
kdeis@phoenix.kent.edu (kellie deis)

('73)
michalack@nku.edu (andrew michalack)

november 25
eweins1@po-box.mcgill.ca (erica weinstein)

november 26 ('71)
weenracer@aol.com (lisa)
"i am an only child
born of the wild
riddled to spend my time
defending my land"

melsouth1@hotmail.com (mel south)

november 27
grnrgrrl@geocities.com (jeni saulino)


with love,
audra
bge


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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 14:12:50 gmt
reply-to:     jen meklenburg <jenmek@hotmail.com>
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good morning everyone.

during this busy holiday week, can we add a short prayer to honor the texas
a&m students involved in the  tragedy that took 12 lives last week?

for those that don't know, texas a&m has a 90+ year old tradition of
building a bonfire for the traditional day-after-thanksgiving football game
with university of texas.  the bonfire structure usually stands over 60 ft.
tall and consists of thousands of logs.

last thursday, the structure collapsed...

the following students remain in the hospital:

davis, william - critical, icu
harlan, will - fair
hayes, lanny joe - fair
hutchinson, chad - critical, icu
thiel, milton "chip" - fair
washam, j.j. - critical, icu
braus, dominic - guarded
comstock, john - critical; icu
woodley, derrek - serious

the following 12 students were among the fatalities.

nathan scott west, bellaire, texas
christopher breen, austin, texas
jamie hand, henderson, texas
jerry self, arlington, texas
lucas kimmel, corpus christi, texas
jeremy frampton, turlock, california
christopher lee heard, houston, texas
bryan mcclain, san antonio, texas
chad powell, keller, texas
miranda adams, santa fe, texas
michael ebanks, carrollton, texas
timothy doran kerlee, jr., memphis, tennessee


i know that we all get caught up in our own busy holiday season.  but as we
sit down this thursday with our families and loved ones, let us not forget
those students who were victims of this devastating tragedy.  let's all
include the students and their families in our prayers.

peace,
- jennifer meklenburg

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 09:52:29 -0500
reply-to:     "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com>
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from:         "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com>
subject:      re: ig inspired romance vligc
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ooh! ooh!! i want to play!

okay - we didn't meet on the list, but we did meet via the epic site ig bbs
bulletin board.  i wanted help with lyrics and was looking for ig related
poetry.  my susan - july 31, 1998, replied with some of the best writing
i've ever read.  we corresponded and sent and critiqued lyrics and poetry
for the next 6 months, and became good friends.

i had some studio time booked to record a solo demo in january, and after
finding that she was interested in the recording process, asked her if she'd
like to drive up for the weekend - her being in florida, and me in virginia.
she said yes, and we met face to face jan. 22, 1999.  wow - that was my
reaction - i was involved (with a boy, nonetheless), and she had a
girlfriend, but both our relationships were on crumbling ground.  there was
an instant attraction.  she stayed 3 extra days.  i gave her a guitar.  we
fell hard and fast in love.  i flew her back 2 weeks later.  3 weeks after
that, she flew back again for another weekend.  the next week, she left
florida, i obtained an apartment, and she moved to richmond.  very risky,
but, what did we have to lose?  on our 6 month anniversary, we drove to
atlanta for our first ig show together (lilith fair).  we're still going
strong, and i have a pretty new diamond on my finger.  next september we'll
be exchanging vows.  (awwwww.)

so.  the answer is, "yes, virginia, you can find the love of your life
through the indigo girls."

eternally happy all 'cause-a ig,
tara

> -----original message-----
> from: bancu rugbygrrl [smtp:ravishingruggrbc@hotmail.com]
> sent: sunday, november 21, 1999 2:59 pm
> to:   indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject:      re: lisa romances(vligc)
>
> *raises her hand*
> we've known each other off-list going on two years in december...however,
> we
> didn't first met at a concert( although that would have been a cool
> idea)...in fact, we're going to our first ig concert together on dec. 11th
> in columbus, oh!...in fact (since she's no longer on the list i can say
> this) i'm going to ask her to marry me on new year's eve...
> *jumping up and down*
> *starts singing the them song to love boat*
> *mercifully fades off into the distance*
>
> rugbygrrl
>
> >i can't even believe that i am writing this to the list.
> however, for the last few days, my girlfriend and i have been discussing
> romances which have developed as a result of two people being on this
> list.
> we met each other on the list.  after talking for awhile, we finally meet
> in
> person at an indigo girls show.  from there we started going to see live
> folk artists and then it just developed from there.
> so, my big question is, has anyone else met their significant other off
> the
> list and are now in a meaningful relationship together?
>
> cheers,
> l'sly
>
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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 10:02:41 -0500
reply-to:     carrie knepp <indigo4me@webtv.net>
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  i have recently met this wonderful woman over the in the ig chat room.
she is from england and so we hav'nt met yet.  she is coming here in
january.  how scared am i?!  but sometimes one can tell when thing are
kosher or not.  i am falling fast and don't know how to catch myself.
peace & love,
      carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 10:09:28 est
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in a message dated 11/22/99 10:01:46 am est, telane@trigon.com writes:

> so.  the answer is, "yes, virginia, you can find the love of your life
>  through the indigo girls."

well, i didn't find the love of my life.  but i did find a very good learning
experience.  who knows what the future holds, tho.......right?  :)

but, tara, you had a great story.  i liked it because it was full of risks.
and not only risks......a lot of willingness to take those risks!  great for
you two!  most people are too damn hesitant to "let go" and "let love!"

good luck to you both!
amanda

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 10:14:01 mst
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
front row, whoo-hooo, i'm gonna be on a video!!!
johnny rotten, compromise, sys *and* scooterboys!!!!
encore:  powderfinger!  they totally rocked my world and i don't know if i
can recover!

and i must also publically apologize to joanne.  again: i am very sorry that
i am such an obsessed psycho spazz!
garian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

whooooooooohoooooooooooo i'm gonna be on the video too!!!!!!! johnny
rotten... i have got to learn this song. yippee!!! and i know that kristen
(kc) would want to say hi. garian.. there is nothing to forgive... thanks
for the pick. reunion, oh my god and land of canaan on saturday... i think i
have died and gone to indigoheaven.

just so that we are not in a total confusion.. i met our lovely garian when
the set list became attached (you know that orange tape.. well... it works)
to my arm friday night. as soon as the list got off of my arm and we were
talking, we realized.. omg... you're from the list.... hugs!!!!!! (this
really confused the surrounding peoples, by the way). our lovely garian (who
is totally sweet and way cool) gave me a pick she had caught, but as we
left, she found another one on the floor, about to be swept up and thrown
away (tragedy). and for the record. i wasn't the nicest person while the
tape had to come off... so i also have to apologize (i believe that my
language was not the nicey nicest at that point... i am never having
anything waxed in my life after that tape). and thanks for the chocolate
saturday, too, garian... you candy smuggler you!

the set list friday night read "cold beer and no filming tonight." for the
record, sulli did not give out the lists saturday. they had a plane to catch
at 12:30, and she was in a big hurry. i didn't get the song list written
down saturday.. i did that friday, but that has already been reviewed. the
tape on the list friday had a little doodle of a dog and "1 1/2 days,
phoebe" written on it. i'm sure the girls are more than ready to be home.

for the people who are on my christmas card exchange list.. i got extras of
those cards for you guys!!!! i know the college rep from sony who was
handing them out (those nashville connections come in handy sometimes), and
so you will be receiving them with your cards, so not so big a surprise, but
i was just excited to get enough for you guys. i will be doing my cards this
week (this is the little bookmark card with a&e on the front, and a few cd
reviews and a picture of the album on the back). if i have any extras after
the card list is done, i will send out an offer to the list, but i have to
make sure that everyone on my exchange list gets one.

i'm back to work.. with no voice left from screaming at the concert.. and i
am a very happy fan this morning..

toodles, y'all,

joanne


"nolite te bastardes carborundorum"
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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 09:32:21 -0800
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hello! so i put a survey up on my website to ask about which ig studio
album is people's favorite, and so far only 15 people have voted, and
it's almost tied between swamp ophelia and rites. cons has one vote and
so does nis. if you're interested - check it out and vote! i'm going to
leave it up for another week, and then change the quiz to something else
- if you have any ideas, let me know and i"ll probably use 'em!

love,
amy

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 12:36:14 -0500
reply-to:     "carrie e. lagree" <clagree@learnlink.emory.edu>
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from:         "carrie e. lagree" <clagree@learnlink.emory.edu>
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all this talk of list romances is making me incredibly jealous! every
indigo girls show i go to in the back of my mind is the idea that maybe
some special girl will be dancing next to me.  i can always dream . . .
:)carrie

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 10:01:59 -0800
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will whomever is working with beccie on the chiapas ride please email me?
i'd like to email my logo (like i was supposed to do weeks ago).

i'll also get those shirts ordered today and can have my supplier drop-ship
them to you if you can send me an address.

so sorry to take up the list with this stuff.

ryan blackhawke
owner - fremont hemp co
(888) 956-hemp
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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 13:19:35 est
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    wow...so this is not as uncommon as i thought.  my girlfriend and i
(we're both on the list) met on line through a mutual friend, whom both of us
also met through the list.  she lives in nashville, and i go to school up in
west virginia....not for too much longer though.  ;)  it was love at first
er, sound??  what i mean is that the first time we actually spoke, we felt
this immediate connection...something that we had both been aware of over the
computer, but that had not seemed as intense until we were "voice to voice."
a little over a month later, she made the eight hour drive up here to see me
for a couple of days... i thought it had been intense over the phone, boy was
i in for a surprise...the best surprise of my life.  those few days
solidified everything we had been feeling.  my friends thought i was nuts,
and honestly, i might have agreed with them if i wasn't so in love...i still
think it is good to be cautious about bringing someone from "the internet
world" into your reality world, but my heart was screamin that this woman is
the one for me, and i couldn't do anything but listen. then she went back to
nashville and i stayed here (at my tiny lil' catholic school) and we talked
as much as we could on the phone and computer.  another month passed and i
flew to nashville to spend fall break with her...  now, it's been another
month, and each day we've been apart has felt like an eternity.  tomorrow i
fly to nashville again (for 5 days!) so she and i will spend our first
thanksgiving together.  then, after this semester, i will be transferring to
mtsu and moving in with her for good!  sometimes i chuckle when i remember
that we met on line...but i am so thankful for the ig list (and our mutual
friend from the list)...if not for them, we probably would never have met.
just thought i would share our lil' story...sorry it's kinda lengthy.
hope everyone has a great thanksgiving.  i will definitely be giving thanks...
~heather

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ok, so who is going to start a love@ignetspace.org page?

melissa


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>     wow...so this is not as uncommon as i thought.  my girlfriend and i
> (we're both on the list) met on line through a mutual friend, whom both of
us
> also met through the list.  she lives in nashville, and i go to school up
in
> west virginia....not for too much longer though.  ;)  it was love at first
> er, sound??  what i mean is that the first time we actually spoke, we felt
> this immediate connection...something that we had both been aware of over
the
> computer, but that had not seemed as intense until we were "voice to
voice."
> a little over a month later, she made the eight hour drive up here to see
me
> for a couple of days... i thought it had been intense over the phone, boy
was
> i in for a surprise...the best surprise of my life.  those few days
> solidified everything we had been feeling.  my friends thought i was nuts,
> and honestly, i might have agreed with them if i wasn't so in love...i
still
> think it is good to be cautious about bringing someone from "the internet
> world" into your reality world, but my heart was screamin that this woman
is
> the one for me, and i couldn't do anything but listen. then she went back
to
> nashville and i stayed here (at my tiny lil' catholic school) and we
talked
> as much as we could on the phone and computer.  another month passed and i
> flew to nashville to spend fall break with her...  now, it's been another
> month, and each day we've been apart has felt like an eternity.  tomorrow
i
> fly to nashville again (for 5 days!) so she and i will spend our first
> thanksgiving together.  then, after this semester, i will be transferring
to
> mtsu and moving in with her for good!  sometimes i chuckle when i remember
> that we met on line...but i am so thankful for the ig list (and our mutual
> friend from the list)...if not for them, we probably would never have met.
> just thought i would share our lil' story...sorry it's kinda lengthy.
> hope everyone has a great thanksgiving.  i will definitely be giving
thanks...
> ~heather
>
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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 16:16:54 -0500
reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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from:         deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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>from:    lance longwell <longwell_ls@hotmail.com>
>
>so, my big question is, has anyone else met their significant other off the
>list and are now in a meaningful relationship together?

not this list... but tori and i met online before most people had even
heard of the internet (we met on prodigy bb's almost 8 years ago, long
before online romances were common)... our story is similar to tara's; i
was married, she was with a woman she'd been with for 10 years, we wrote,
we met, sparks flew, she moved to va. from co. (boulder, l'sley, can you
believe she left boulder?!), and we are living happily ever after!

of course, the reader's digest condensed version is much simpler than the
unabridged version, but the end of the story is the same -- bliss!

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reply-to:     anna banana <aeigfolk@hotmail.com>
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cheeseyness 'n such. . .

do friendships count?  lia's my list sweetie.  and recently i met a woman at
an ig show.  wowza!


>from: heather pownall <pv10@aol.com>
>reply-to: pv10@aol.com
>to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
>subject: re: ig inspired romance
>date: mon, 22 nov 1999 13:19:35 est
>
>     wow...so this is not as uncommon as i thought.  my girlfriend and i
>(we're both on the list) met on line through a mutual friend, whom both of
>us
>also met through the list.  she lives in nashville, and i go to school up
>in
>west virginia....not for too much longer though.  ;)  it was love at first
>er, sound??  what i mean is that the first time we actually spoke, we felt
>this immediate connection...something that we had both been aware of over
>the
>computer, but that had not seemed as intense until we were "voice to
>voice."
>a little over a month later, she made the eight hour drive up here to see
>me
>for a couple of days... i thought it had been intense over the phone, boy
>was
>i in for a surprise...the best surprise of my life.  those few days
>solidified everything we had been feeling.  my friends thought i was nuts,
>and honestly, i might have agreed with them if i wasn't so in love...i
>still
>think it is good to be cautious about bringing someone from "the internet
>world" into your reality world, but my heart was screamin that this woman
>is
>the one for me, and i couldn't do anything but listen. then she went back
>to
>nashville and i stayed here (at my tiny lil' catholic school) and we talked
>as much as we could on the phone and computer.  another month passed and i
>flew to nashville to spend fall break with her...  now, it's been another
>month, and each day we've been apart has felt like an eternity.  tomorrow i
>fly to nashville again (for 5 days!) so she and i will spend our first
>thanksgiving together.  then, after this semester, i will be transferring
>to
>mtsu and moving in with her for good!  sometimes i chuckle when i remember
>that we met on line...but i am so thankful for the ig list (and our mutual
>friend from the list)...if not for them, we probably would never have met.
>just thought i would share our lil' story...sorry it's kinda lengthy.
>hope everyone has a great thanksgiving.  i will definitely be giving
>thanks...
>~heather
>
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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 15:49:00 mst
reply-to:     chee hill <tcheehill@hotmail.com>
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1.  i want to say how much i love this list.  it's been a little over a year
now since i signed on for the first time, and it's been a pleasure to know
all of you!

2.  while i was cruising down i-75 (in atlanta) this afternoon, i was
scanning radio stations.  i found a drivin' and cryin' song on 99x
(http://www.99x.com).  lately 99x has been crappy.  after the song about
honeysuckles, blueridge mnts, and dogwoods was over, steve (dj) mentioned
the d & c turkey day concerts here in their hometown.  he then said, "and
speaking of local bands.  one local rock and roll band is doing quite well
with their newest cd, cons, and they're coming home after their tour to
promote cons on dec. 16, 17.  i like their new cd a lot.  actually, i think
it's their best so far.  it rocks [he said something like "it rocks"
anyway].  one of my favorite songs is this one, "trouble". "

then, he played it.  i just thought y'all might be interested to know that
cons is continuing to get a lot of good reviews lately...even if it's kind
of a given being from a dj in atlanta....

-chee

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look for the important reference to amy's solo album at the end of the
article!!!

-g.
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indigo girls stay strong
by g. brown
denver post special writer

    nov. 19 - during the prevalence of folky singersongwriters in the
mid-'80s, indigo girls emerged and cultivated a reputation for educated,
politically aware material.

and like few of their contemporaries, amy ray and emily saliers have
shown staying power. the atlanta-based duo, visiting the fillmore
auditorium tonight and saturday, remains revered by fans.

"from the day emily and i started playing 20 years ago, it was all about
having different
experiences with different musicians,'' ray says. "we hoped to carry
that on as we went, no matter what community we were in.''

no wonder the group's new album "come on now social'' had its origin in
the geniality of sarah mclachlan's 1997-99 lilith fair all-female tours,
when ray and saliers jammed with tourmates all three years. with
co-producer john reynolds, a drummer who had backed sinead o'connor,
they set out to create that same vibe in the studio, where acquaintances
could informally drop in and contribute to the music.

"lilith was validation,'' ray says. "it showed that no matter what level
you're on - some big stars, some medium and some small - women can hang
together as peers and hopefully break down some barriers between race,
gender, gay and straight. it was nurturing and inspiring. sarah had
became incredibly articulate and politicized about feminism, which i
found exciting.''

"come on now social'' features several lilith performers - sheryl crow
and joan osborne each sing on two tracks, and drummer kate schellenbach
of luscious jackson and bassist me'shell ndegeocello guest. indigo girls
also get support from garth hudson and rick danko of the band.

as on past releases, ray and saliers wrote their songs separately.
saliers' "peace tonight,'' the first single, frames their lovely
harmonies to pop perfection.

ray's standout is the album opener, "go,'' a passionate call to action
with grinding electric guitars: "don't take a seat/don't stand
aside/this time don't assume anything/just go go go.''

"people in college don't know for sure what their future is going to be.
to get attention, they have to do stupid things, like riot,'' ray, 35,
says of the university of colorado's annual melees in boulder. "on the
face of it, you think, "god, what idiots.' and then you realize, "i
probably shouldn't dismiss that, because there's a reason they're
feeling that way.'

"everything has become so corporate and global - the wealth is held in
the hands of very few people. the economy is doing well, yet so many
people don't have employment, and two people have to work in the
household instead of one, and minimum wage is too low. we're just so
disconnected between what we're being told is going on and what's really
going on. so people don't understand why they're angry.''

ray closes the album with "faye tucker,'' a somber story song laced with
wordless wailing by worldmusic singer natacha atlas. it was inspired by
karla faye tucker, who made headlines last year when she became the
first woman to be executed by the state of texas since the civil war.

"karla faye herself was like, "i'm resigned to whatever happens, i'm at
peace in my life now.' the christian coalition was interested in her
because she was reborn - ironically, they were siding with the radical,
liberal, anti-death penalty contingent to save karla's life,'' ray
explains. "then you had this massive fight going on with the
death-penalty advocates on the other side.''

ray is making plans to record a solo album next year. she'll issue it on
her own indie label, daemon records.

"it's a benefit record for my own label, to keep it going,'' she says
with a laugh. "it's going to be raw - some of the songs are melodic
punk, some of them are rip-roaring appalachian stuff.  and yes, emily
will probably play on it - obviously, indigo girls comes first for me.''

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folk duo still sees injustice in music world

by greg glasgow
camera music writer


it's the late 1990s--the era of lilith fair, jewel and britney spears--but
the indigo girls aren't happy about the place of women in music.

"when you look at commercial alternative playlists right now, there are no
women," says emily saliers, half of the outspoken atlanta-based folk duo
that plays denver's fillmore auditorium tonight and saturday.  "it's
completely male-dominated, but it used to be a format where we got
airplay."

when they debuted in the late '80s, saliers and bandmate amy ray received
plenty of airplay, at least in boulder, where songs like "closer to fine"
and "secure yourself" were kbco staples. over the next 10 years and eight
albums, the duo has had the occasional hit ("shame on you," "galileo"),
but has remained primarily a fans' band.

in september, the indigo girls released come on now social, a heavily
produced album that may be the best-sounding of their career.

"it's a little more rocking, overall," saliers says. "it's got more
diversity, but it holds together as well as any record we've made."

despite its festive title, come on now social may also be the most overtly
political indigo girls album yet. on "trouble," for instance, the
out-and-proud saliers sings, "when the clergy take a vote/all the gays
will pay again/'cause there's more than one kind of criminal white
collar."

it's a line that could easily have been inspired by the ministers who held
anti-gay signs at the funeral of hate-crime victim matthew shepherd.

"we're getting ready to play in laramie," saliers says. "it's such a
tragedy. it just highlights the fact there's so much oppression still
happening. people think, 'oh, it's gotten easier for gays, it's gotten
easier for women, it's gotten easier for blacks,' but it still has a long
way to go. i don't write songs to effect change, i write them about what
i'm thinking about. but when they're done, i start to think how can we use
our career for change."

the duo has used its stature to educate fans--the liner notes for come on
now social include a "resources" page that lists contact information for
political groups such as the national gay and lesbian task force and the
national coalition to abolish the death penalty. saliers says the band
also sponsors a resource table at its shows, where people can learn more
about national activist groups as well as groups in their
communities.

but many fans, saliers says, just come to see the indigo girls' legendary
live show, now documented on two different recordings.

"we have great fans," she says. "they buy the records and absorb the music
very quickly. i'm having as much fun as i've ever had in our career
playing these new songs on stage. there's an excitement and a
vulnerability, because you've only got one shot."

the last time boulder and denver fans got to experience the excitement and
vulnerability of an indigo girls show was in august, when the duo came to
fiddler's green as part of the all-female lilith fair. the media
attention given to the tour and its founder, sarah mclachlan, gave rise to
the idea that women in rock was the next big thing.  saliers says it's all
hype.

"there's this perception that women are doing great, and it's just not
true," she says. "women getting signed for a while was a trend, and now
there's a backlash.  it's harder for women who don't fill those roles of
exploiting sexuality like (britney spears). plus we're gay, and people
don't know quite what to make of that."

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 16:19:23 -0700
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indigo girls give 'feel-good' concert of year

amy ray and emily saliers play mix of new
and old songs at fillmore auditorium

by greg glasgow
glasgowg@boulderpublishing.com
camera popular music writer


denver--the unique thing about folk is that it's a style
of music written specifically to be shared with an audience.
  so while america's most visible folk duo--atlanta-based
  duo the indigo girls--often come off pretentious or corny
  on their albums, when they get in front of an audience it's a
  whole different story.

the girls - amy ray and emily saliers, with full band in tow
  - finished up their recent tour with shows friday night and
  saturday night at the fillmore auditorium.

  "this is a perfect way to end this tour," ray said during
  friday's encore, and the sold-out crowd seemed to agree.
swaying, dancing and singing along at the tops of their
voices, the mostly young, mostly female audience members
   ("happy little sardines," saliers called them at one point)
    made friday's 100-minute show the feel-good concert of
  the year. many artists talk of their "family" of fans, but indigo
   girls' followers really live up to the reputation.

   shortly after a solo acoustic set by their atlanta buddy
    shawn mullins ("lullaby"), the girls took the stage along
    with their band: bass player clare kenny, drummer blair
     cunningham, cellist caroline dale and keyboardist carol
     isaacs, most of whom appear on the girls' latest album,
     come on now social.

   the evening began with a bang, as ray and saliers tore into
  the dual electric guitar intro to "go." the song's "raise your
   hands high" chorus gave the audience an early opportunity
  to show its enthusiasm.

   keeping the energy level just as high, the band moved next
  to "trouble," another song from come on now social.
  propelled by cunningham's rock-solid drumming, both
    songs had the packed house moving.

    from there the show became a nicely sequenced mix of
   new songs and old favorites, of rockin' full-band numbers
   and simple duets that found saliers and ray alone on stage
   with their acoustic guitars. the versatile pair also picked up
   banjo and mandolin for songs like social's "ozilline," a
   song ray said she wrote in honor of her grandmother.

   the girls stuck primarily to those anthemic songs that lend
  themselves well to live performance. "closer to fine"--
  which the duo graciously let the audience sing most of--
  "least complicated" and "get out the map"--all were
    chill-worthy. the night's most obscure pick--
   "chickenman" from 1992's rites of passage--turned out
     to be one of its most dramatic, a seven-minute epic that
      began and ended with a cappella, four-part harmony.

   the bulk of the older material came from rites of passage.
  "airplane" made its way into the set, as did ray's solo
   acoustic version of dire straits' "romeo and juliet," and
   "ghost" and "galileo" were two-thirds of the 15-minute
    encore, along with "gone again" from come on now
   social.

   the ever-polite duo chatted with the audience throughout
    the show, throwing out a pair of "thanks y'alls" after almost
     every song. a "resource table" on the west side of the
     fillmore offered information on organizations like the task
    force against hate, the center to prevent handgun
    violence and women's action for new directions, but the
    talk from the stage was decidedly non-political.

    ray announced that she and saliers would be spending all
   day saturday in denver, and asked for suggestions as to
     the city's best thrift stores. when a note arrived at the front
     of the stage ray bent to retrieve it, then read it silently and
     chuckled.

    "everyone wants to know what it says," saliers urged.

    "it says 'i would be honored to be your tour guide,'" said
    ray, eliciting cheers from the crowd. "but it's those little
   things that get you in the most trouble." she laughed again.
   "i'm going to just shut up and play the song."

  november 21, 1999

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 18:28:54 est
reply-to:     lance longwell <longwell_ls@hotmail.com>
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i just wanted to thank yall for chipping in with stories about list romances
(both those sent to the list and those sent privately).  here i thought we
were probably the only two!!!

speaking for myself only, what's made this the most special was meeting at
an ig show...which was the reason we were brought together in the first
place.

thanks again for all your wonderful comments!

l'sly

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 18:32:26 est
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here's what it says on the concert flyer from saturday night's "voices on
the verge" concert at the sommerville theater in sommerville, ma:

"no one can touch her... as holy as a mystic, as profane as your perverted
fantasies" -amy ray (indigo girls)

the concert featured rose polenzani, beth amsel, erin mckeown, jess klein,
lori mckenna, kris delmhorst and faith soloway. it was an incredible show
and if anyone wants a revies you can e-mail me privately.

-karen p.

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 19:29:41 est
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hey everyone!

yup...michelle and i met on the epic bbs about a year ago.  we were so
excited to discover that we both lived in new hampshire and that we could be
potential concert buddies.  it was awesome to speak to another human about
the "ig obsession"!  little did we know that our friendship would grow into
this very cool romance.  it is strange to admit that we met on line.  we both
love ig, but are mostly so grateful that thru a & e's music we found each
other .  i feel lucky every single day that this incredible person has come
into my life.   we have had this crazy year of kids and divorces and new jobs
and coming out.  thru it all, i love her more and more.

what is even more strange is that we share the same anniversary as tara and
susan!  we all shared our 6 month together at the atlanta lilith...what a
night!

well, that's our story!  let's hear some more!

chris

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date:         tue, 23 nov 1999 12:09:53 +1100
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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list - please direct any
replies to your designated branch or to donna at
d6309@prodigy.net, not to me...

thanks,
sherlyn

---begin forwarded message---
>from: "donna m schwartz" <d6309@prodigy.net>
>subject: [ig-news] beacon theatre and wfuv interview boot tree
>date: mon, 22 nov 1999 00:38:52 -0500
>
>hi everyone,
>sorry it took so long to get this tree up and running, but good things come
>to those who wait...
>i taped the beacon theatre show in nyc on 10/12/99. sound quality, i think
>is very good. here's the setlist:
>go
>trouble
>land of canaan
>least complicated
>compromise
>love will come to you
>gone again
>cold beer & remote control
>scooter boys
>get out the map
>sister
>closer to fine
>ozillene
>peace tonight
>kid fears
>power of 2
>shame on you
>or (w/rose polenzani)
>faye tucker
>galileo
>
>it was a very good show, the crowd was really into it.
>
>i also taped the wfuv interview on 10/12/99 with rita houston.  i really
>think this interview was different than most others because rita asked them
>a lot of different questions than in most other interviews.
>
>here's the deal.  send a self-addressed stamped package and a 100 minute
>tape for the beacon show and a 60 minute tape for the wfuv tape to the
>branch that correspond with your birthday month.  please make sure you put
>the proper amount of return postage on your packages. also, i know it's a
>bad time to announce this tree because of thanksgiving comin up. so, be
>patient if you do not get a reply right away.
>here's the branches:
>
>december/january       memememi@aol.com
>february               kt14017@cedarnet.org
>march                  nokomis07@aol.com
>april and may  hunterj1@aol.com
>june                   wendell01@earthlink.net
>july                   aaogilvie@aol.com
>august         arle@hotmail.com
>september              susan.brill@yale.edu
>october/november       mbpost@ibm.net
>
>europe and asia/australia
>               dhalford@pcpro-gb.de
>               claudine@ukonline.co.uk
>
>enjoy the tapes,
>donna
>
>ps - karen if you are out there, please email me with your new email
>address. i
>have been trying to contact you regarding the beacon and fuv branches.
>

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hey folks,

this is an excerpt of a message which was posted to the
newsgroup - thanks to lisa for permission to forward
it on.

-sherlyn

---begin forwarded message---
>from: lisalisaa@aol.com123 (lisalisaa)
>subject: re: album sales
>date: 22 nov 1999 22:46:59 gmt
>
[...]
>
>i interviewed russell carter today for my story. he says the girls are doing
>great -- like one, two or three -- on the national triple a charts (adult
album
>alternative) and they are also doing well on the hot adult contemporary
charts.
>
>he seemed cautiously optomistic, tho conceded this album is not moving up the
>charts as quick as shaming of the sun, nor is peace tonight garnering the
>attention of shame on you. tho he did point out that sos came out in the
spring
>and this one came out in the fourth quarter which is a very difficult time to
>release an album. very compettitive.
>
>still, i think -- speaking as the fan here and not the reporter -- every one
>needs to badger their radio stations. i mean peace tonight ought to be
getting
>air play. no two ways about it.
>
>i must say i was a little sad when carter told me they are holding off
making a
>video because vh1 and mtv only play hits and it is too big a gamble to spend
>250,000.
>
>it shouldnt be that way for two people who are so talented. then again, there
>are a lot of great music makers out there who get even less attention than
the
>girls -- ie nanci griffith, michele schocked, victoria williams. when was the
>last time you saw ani difranco on the charts? the list is never ending.
>be well,
>lisa
>to send email, remove 123 from my address.
>
>"please explain to me the scientific nature of 'the whammy'" - scully
>
>"the daily news asks her for the dope.
>she says, 'man, the dope's that there's still hope.'"- springsteen
>

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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list but due to its length
is more appropriate for here instead (i'll send the news
list a shortened version).  please direct any replies to
lauren at nakedeye10@aol.com, not to me.

thanks,
sherlyn

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>from: nakedeye10@aol.com
>date: mon, 22 nov 1999 00:21:47 est
>subject: ig denver fillmore 11/20/99 - 2nd show
>
>it's now sunday night, and i'm marginally recovered enough to give you a
>quick(er) run-through of the second show.
>
>tonight, as some of you know, was the last night of this leg of the tour,
>which, imo, is usually one of the best shows you can catch.  kinda nice that
>they picked denver for it.
>
>and as you may recall from my other review, tonight was video night.  sorry
>to say that i don't know what ig/epic intend to do with the footage, but the
>entire show was professionally videoed.  (i only wish i'd been healthy
enough
>to be visually interesting!)
>
>today, i wasn't the one spending the day outside in line.  having been on
>duty the day before, my friend sent me home to rest my neck and held down
the
>fort, allowing me to saunter in at a damned reasonable hour.  (being used to
>being the one doing all the work, it's hard not to feel guilty coming on
>late, but in my injured state, it was a good, good thing!  and besides,
>teamwork is a great thing.)
>
>we were the second group in line, behind other friends of ours (garrien
>(sp?), jill, dave, and kat) who had also been in line from early on for
>friday, too.
>
>we almost all got screwed by a fillmore policy that allows a second line to
>form on the other side of the building by the will call, with no
>announcement, starting about when the box office opened at 6.
>
>needless to say, i was not amused.  fortunately, i picked the right staff
>person to talk to and i managed to do it in the right way.  "am i to
>understand correctly that the people from will call who just picked up their
>tickets will be let in the door at the same time as the people over in the
>other line who have been waiting since early in the morning?"
>
>to make a long story short, the staffperson totally got it, and much to her
>credit, assured me that she would make sure that our doors were open first.
>20 minutes later, she made good on her promise and we were off!
>
>i ended up front row center, again, over by emily this time.  i started the
>evening in what would have been just *inside* of emily, but i apparently
>didn't do a fully effective job of defending my turf, as by show time, i had
>been moved the coupla feet that put me outside the mike.  couldn't believe
it
>when i looked down at the floor to mark where i'd started when we first came
>in the house vs where i ended up, 'cause that few feet broke my streak of
>being front row *between* a&e for my previous eight ig shows.  but i
>digress...
>
>in reality, we were all in a great spot!  and most importantly, we got most
>of the front sitting down for the hour and a half before shawn came on.
even
>after he did, we managed to keep a small core of us down, making the
>experience infinitely less uncomfortable.  all those other silly people
>packed like sardines while we kicked back.  yeah.
>
>the other thing that help was that mullins shortened his set to a more
>bearable 40 minutes.  (there's an amusing fan shawn fan story here, but i
>won't digress that far.)
>
>side note:  the barrier was another 3 or 4 feet further back saturday night
>to accomodate for some of the camera equipment.  on the one hand, it was a
>drag to be further away, but it made the angle easier on my injured neck.
>way cool.
>
>knowing it was being laid to tape for all eternity, a&e hit the stage with a
>vengeance, tearing through a particularly rousing version of "go."  i'd
>probably have to say that this was the highlight of the show.  they were on
>fire.
>
>"trouble" was enthusiastically rendered in its conventional #2 slot followed
>by a great "land of canaan" in the duo acoustic #3 slot.
>
>we then had an upbeat (can there be any other kind?) "peace tonight," before
>shifting the mood to elizabeth's new favorite, "sister."
>
>"get out the map" was a crowd pleaser, as always.
>
>a typically rockin' version of "scooter boys" with emily doing some
>spectacular electric work during the jam came next.
>
>then, a shift to "cold beer and remote control."  with the right timing and
>marketing, this could be a big multi-format hit.  on the one hand, i hope
>they do it, but on the other hand, i'd kinda hate for them to become a pop
>phenom.
>
>next thing we knew, amy was alone on stage.  from the moment i knew i didn't
>recognize the track, i suspected it was "johnny rotten," but i wasn't quite
>sure until the end.  passionate rendering, but i'd have to hear it more to
>form a complete opinion.
>
>duo acoustic "closer to fine," complete with singalong.
>
>a particularly high voltage "compromise."
>
>a wonderfully, grooving, crowd-pleasing "power of two."
>
>then "ozilene," followed by a pleasant surprise for me of emily's "soon to
be
>nothing."  i really enjoyed it, but i would have even rather have heard "we
>are together."
>
>"shed your skin" rocked the house as always.
>
>"least complicated" was delightful, but not half as good as the night
before.
> it'll drive me nuts watching it on video, knowing that the night before was
>better.  kind of like having the cd boot of the 6/28/94 radio city show,
>knowing that the 6/29 show blew it out of the water.
>
>"faye tucker" was next with the odd juxtoposition of being followed by
>"airplane," topped off with the set closing "shame on you," which plain
works
>on stage.
>
>they walked off for a minute or so before emily came back alone and did a
>surprising rendering of "philosophy of loss," the hidden bonus track on cons.
>
>the band was back for "gone again."
>
>they then made my neighbor for the night very happy by covering a neil young
>song that i'm not familiar with called "powder fingers," and finally
>"galileo."
>
>it was a spirited, enthusiastic show.  not as staggering as some that i've
>seen, but really, really good.
>
>and for you crossover deadheads, they promised that they were going to learn
>uncle john's band.  i'm kinda psyched, 'cause while i'm not one (a
deadhead),
>i come from a family full of them, and hearing it reaches a snuggly spot in
>my heart.
>
>oh, and fwiw, i had a lovely, albeit short chat with their production
manager
>who i know from years ago, and he said it was a particularly good show and
>that we got four more songs than usual.
>
>acutally, that's my only real bitch about them.  i've always wanted longer
>shows.  i'm used to the who, springsteen, and the dead.  with a&e's
>incredible depth of talent and catalog to choose from, i want more!!!
>
>thanks to everyone who was in the audience.  thanks to my friends and show
>neighbors.  and also, thanks to the fillmore staff who were one of the best
>concert staffs i've ever dealt with.  you made it a pleasure.  (and of
>course, thanks to a&e and band who always warm the cockles of my heart and
>soul.)
>
>thanks for reading.
>
>lauren
>

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there is a connection to those topics.  no nothing romantic, i wish.  one is
i am home for thankgiving break and i forgot cons.  i brought most everything
so else, but no cons!  what do i want to listen to? cons is the answer.  ok
the other topic which is meeting on the list.  i am so happy that it dawned
on me a connection which was going to be basically a lame connection.  here
it goes....... i feel that some of what is on cons as in amy's pieces
represent me.  this just dawned on me ok the butchness hardcore metal rough,
whatever.  the other thing is i wouldn't mind something set up with the list
concerning dating.  that is what i guess i have been trying to say without
soliciting i guess.

tat

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 22:34:56 -0500
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ok...i know this is a shot in the dark, but do any of you have or know of anyone
who booted the athens concert on oct. 22?  any help would be appreciated.
thanks,
ashley

sherlyn koo wrote:

> hey folks,
>
> this is an excerpt of a message which was posted to the
> newsgroup - thanks to lisa for permission to forward
> it on.
>
> -sherlyn
>
> ---begin forwarded message---
> >from: lisalisaa@aol.com123 (lisalisaa)
> >subject: re: album sales
> >date: 22 nov 1999 22:46:59 gmt
> >
> [...]
> >
> >i interviewed russell carter today for my story. he says the girls are doing
> >great -- like one, two or three -- on the national triple a charts (adult
> album
> >alternative) and they are also doing well on the hot adult contemporary
> charts.
> >
> >he seemed cautiously optomistic, tho conceded this album is not moving up the
> >charts as quick as shaming of the sun, nor is peace tonight garnering the
> >attention of shame on you. tho he did point out that sos came out in the
> spring
> >and this one came out in the fourth quarter which is a very difficult time to
> >release an album. very compettitive.
> >
> >still, i think -- speaking as the fan here and not the reporter -- every one
> >needs to badger their radio stations. i mean peace tonight ought to be
> getting
> >air play. no two ways about it.
> >
> >i must say i was a little sad when carter told me they are holding off
> making a
> >video because vh1 and mtv only play hits and it is too big a gamble to spend
> >250,000.
> >
> >it shouldnt be that way for two people who are so talented. then again, there
> >are a lot of great music makers out there who get even less attention than
> the
> >girls -- ie nanci griffith, michele schocked, victoria williams. when was the
> >last time you saw ani difranco on the charts? the list is never ending.
> >be well,
> >lisa
> >to send email, remove 123 from my address.
> >
> >"please explain to me the scientific nature of 'the whammy'" - scully
> >
> >"the daily news asks her for the dope.
> >she says, 'man, the dope's that there's still hope.'"- springsteen
> >
>
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hey hey, has anyone heard tracy walker??

she's a very talented local artist here in cincinnati.  i saw her at a
benefit show this past summer (along with over the rhine, who you should
also get your butt in gear and check out if you haven't already) and she
puts on an awesome show.

people, lend her your ears. you will not be disappointed.

www.tracywalker.com

liz <---who's been griping and moaning lately because she has to miss the
columbus, dayton, and louisville ig shows

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in a message dated 11/22/99 10:29:17 pm est, tattoo1981@aol.com writes:

> the other thing is i wouldn't mind something set up with the list
>  concerning dating.  that is what i guess i have been trying to say without
>  soliciting i guess.

i think something like that would be really cool.  you know.  people who like
the ig who are interested in and open to the possibility of meeting other
people for a possible relationship.  i think that'd be cool.  a whole variety
of topics could be discussed that would allow people to post and meet one
another.  or maybe somebody could collect names, addresses and sexual
orientations and set up something based on region or age or whatever.   i
think that would be cool for single people to possibly take advantage of.

so, i'm in agreement with you, kristen.

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date:         mon, 22 nov 1999 21:12:02 -0800
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>>>and for you crossover deadheads, they promised that they were going
to
learn
>uncle john's band.  i'm kinda psyched, 'cause while i'm not one (a
deadhead),
>i come from a family full of them, and hearing it reaches a snuggly
spot in
>my heart.
>and for you crossover deadheads, they promised that they were going to
learn
>uncle john's band.  i'm kinda psyched, 'cause while i'm not one (a
deadhead),
>i come from a family full of them, and hearing it reaches a snuggly
spot in
>my heart.
>>and for you crossover deadheads, they promised that they were going
to
learn uncle john's band.  <<

i actually have an .mp3 of them doing "uncle john's band" that i found
on napster.  it must be an early recording, because i think they'd kick
it up some now, and as it is it's a pretty straight forward version.

jean

--- sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au> wrote:
> hey folks,
>
> this was sent to the news-only list but due to its length
> is more appropriate for here instead (i'll send the news
> list a shortened version).  please direct any replies to
> lauren at nakedeye10@aol.com, not to me.
>
> thanks,
> sherlyn
>
> ---begin forwarded message---
> >from: nakedeye10@aol.com
> >date: mon, 22 nov 1999 00:21:47 est
> >subject: ig denver fillmore 11/20/99 - 2nd show
> >
> >it's now sunday night, and i'm marginally recovered enough to give
> you a
> >quick(er) run-through of the second show.
> >
> >tonight, as some of you know, was the last night of this leg of the
> tour,
> >which, imo, is usually one of the best shows you can catch.  kinda
> nice that
> >they picked denver for it.
> >
> >and as you may recall from my other review, tonight was video night.
>  sorry
> >to say that i don't know what ig/epic intend to do with the footage,
> but the
> >entire show was professionally videoed.  (i only wish i'd been
> healthy
> enough
> >to be visually interesting!)
> >
> >today, i wasn't the one spending the day outside in line.  having
> been on
> >duty the day before, my friend sent me home to rest my neck and held
> down
> the
> >fort, allowing me to saunter in at a damned reasonable hour.  (being
> used to
> >being the one doing all the work, it's hard not to feel guilty
> coming on
> >late, but in my injured state, it was a good, good thing!  and
> besides,
> >teamwork is a great thing.)
> >
> >we were the second group in line, behind other friends of ours
> (garrien
> >(sp?), jill, dave, and kat) who had also been in line from early on
> for
> >friday, too.
> >
> >we almost all got screwed by a fillmore policy that allows a second
> line to
> >form on the other side of the building by the will call, with no
> >announcement, starting about when the box office opened at 6.
> >
> >needless to say, i was not amused.  fortunately, i picked the right
> staff
> >person to talk to and i managed to do it in the right way.  "am i to
> >understand correctly that the people from will call who just picked
> up their
> >tickets will be let in the door at the same time as the people over
> in the
> >other line who have been waiting since early in the morning?"
> >
> >to make a long story short, the staffperson totally got it, and much
> to her
> >credit, assured me that she would make sure that our doors were open
> first.
> >20 minutes later, she made good on her promise and we were off!
> >
> >i ended up front row center, again, over by emily this time.  i
> started the
> >evening in what would have been just *inside* of emily, but i
> apparently
> >didn't do a fully effective job of defending my turf, as by show
> time, i had
> >been moved the coupla feet that put me outside the mike.  couldn't
> believe
> it
> >when i looked down at the floor to mark where i'd started when we
> first came
> >in the house vs where i ended up, 'cause that few feet broke my
> streak of
> >being front row *between* a&e for my previous eight ig shows.  but i
> >digress...
> >
> >in reality, we were all in a great spot!  and most importantly, we
> got most
> >of the front sitting down for the hour and a half before shawn came
> on.
> even
> >after he did, we managed to keep a small core of us down, making the
> >experience infinitely less uncomfortable.  all those other silly
> people
> >packed like sardines while we kicked back.  yeah.
> >
> >the other thing that help was that mullins shortened his set to a
> more
> >bearable 40 minutes.  (there's an amusing fan shawn fan story here,
> but i
> >won't digress that far.)
> >
> >side note:  the barrier was another 3 or 4 feet further back
> saturday night
> >to accomodate for some of the camera equipment.  on the one hand, it
> was a
> >drag to be further away, but it made the angle easier on my injured
> neck.
> >way cool.
> >
> >knowing it was being laid to tape for all eternity, a&e hit the
> stage with a
> >vengeance, tearing through a particularly rousing version of "go."
> i'd
> >probably have to say that this was the highlight of the show.  they
> were on
> >fire.
> >
> >"trouble" was enthusiastically rendered in its conventional #2 slot
> followed
> >by a great "land of canaan" in the duo acoustic #3 slot.
> >
> >we then had an upbeat (can there be any other kind?) "peace
> tonight," before
> >shifting the mood to elizabeth's new favorite, "sister."
> >
> >"get out the map" was a crowd pleaser, as always.
> >
> >a typically rockin' version of "scooter boys" with emily doing some
> >spectacular electric work during the jam came next.
> >
> >then, a shift to "cold beer and remote control."  with the right
> timing and
> >marketing, this could be a big multi-format hit.  on the one hand, i
> hope
> >they do it, but on the other hand, i'd kinda hate for them to become
> a pop
> >phenom.
> >
> >next thing we knew, amy was alone on stage.  from the moment i knew
> i didn't
> >recognize the track, i suspected it was "johnny rotten," but i
> wasn't quite
> >sure until the end.  passionate rendering, but i'd have to hear it
> more to
> >form a complete opinion.
> >
> >duo acoustic "closer to fine," complete with singalong.
> >
> >a particularly high voltage "compromise."
> >
> >a wonderfully, grooving, crowd-pleasing "power of two."
> >
> >then "ozilene," followed by a pleasant surprise for me of emily's
> "soon to
> be
> >nothing."  i really enjoyed it, but i would have even rather have
> heard "we
> >are together."
> >
> >"shed your skin" rocked the house as always.
> >
> >"least complicated" was delightful, but not half as good as the
> night
> before.
> > it'll drive me nuts watching it on video, knowing that the night
> before was
> >better.  kind of like having the cd boot of the 6/28/94 radio city
> show,
> >knowing that the 6/29 show blew it out of the water.
> >
> >"faye tucker" was next with the odd juxtoposition of being followed
> by
> >"airplane," topped off with the set closing "shame on you," which
> plain
> works
> >on stage.
> >
> >they walked off for a minute or so before emily came back alone and
> did a
> >surprising rendering of "philosophy of loss," the hidden bonus track
> on cons.
> >
> >the band was back for "gone again."
> >
> >they then made my neighbor for the night very happy by covering a
> neil young
> >song that i'm not familiar with called "powder fingers," and finally
> >"galileo."
> >
> >it was a spirited, enthusiastic show.  not as staggering as some
> that i've
> >seen, but really, really good.
> >
> >and for you crossover deadheads, they promised that they were going
> to learn
> >uncle john's band.  i'm kinda psyched, 'cause while i'm not one (a
> deadhead),
> >i come from a family full of them, and hearing it reaches a snuggly
> spot in
> >my heart.
> >
> >oh, and fwiw, i had a lovely, albeit short chat with their
> production
> manager
> >who i know from years ago, and he said it was a particularly good
> show and
> >that we got four more songs than usual.
> >
> >acutally, that's my only real bitch about them.  i've always wanted
> longer
> >shows.  i'm used to the who, springsteen, and the dead.  with a&e's
> >incredible depth of talent and catalog to choose from, i want
> more!!!
> >
> >thanks to everyone who was in the audience.  thanks to my friends
> and show
> >neighbors.  and also, thanks to the fillmore staff who were one of
> the best
> >concert staffs i've ever dealt with.  you made it a pleasure.  (and
> of
> >course, thanks to a&e and band who always warm the cockles of my
> heart and
> >soul.)
> >
> >thanks for reading.
> >
> >lauren
> >
>
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am i the only one in texas or what. it seems like everyones from the north.
is it me?
maritsa


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>in a message dated 11/22/99 10:29:17 pm est, tattoo1981@aol.com writes:
>
> > the other thing is i wouldn't mind something set up with the list
> >  concerning dating.  that is what i guess i have been trying to say
>without
> >  soliciting i guess.
>
>i think something like that would be really cool.  you know.  people who
>like
>the ig who are interested in and open to the possibility of meeting other
>people for a possible relationship.  i think that'd be cool.  a whole
>variety
>of topics could be discussed that would allow people to post and meet one
>another.  or maybe somebody could collect names, addresses and sexual
>orientations and set up something based on region or age or whatever.   i
>think that would be cool for single people to possibly take advantage of.
>
>so, i'm in agreement with you, kristen.
>
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date:         tue, 23 nov 1999 01:00:37 est
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i second this motion...i'm not much of a social butterfly so i have such a
hard time meeting people..this would be great! we could start a group on
onelist or egroups...anyone interested??? i volunteer for moderator!
:) lisa

<< > the other thing is i wouldn't mind something set up with the list
>  concerning dating.  that is what i guess i have been trying to say without
>  soliciting i guess.
  >>

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i'd be up for it... after all, everyone would have at least one thing in
common... =)

shannon

lisa r wrote:
>
> i second this motion...i'm not much of a social butterfly so i have such a
> hard time meeting people..this would be great! we could start a group on
> onelist or egroups...anyone interested??? i volunteer for moderator!
> :) lisa

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so this is an idea just for the single women?  is it's focus just
dating?  or making friends?

thanks,

jean

--- lisa r <lisa071573@aol.com> wrote:
> i second this motion...i'm not much of a social butterfly so i have
> such a
> hard time meeting people..this would be great! we could start a group
> on
> onelist or egroups...anyone interested??? i volunteer for moderator!
> :) lisa
>
> << > the other thing is i wouldn't mind something set up with the
> list
>  >  concerning dating.  that is what i guess i have been trying to
> say without
>  >  soliciting i guess.
>   >>
>
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hi...my name is jill, and i am relatively new to the list.  it is so hard to
meet people in this busy day and age, and i would welcome a forum in which
people with common interests and impeccable musical tastes could come
together... :)  i have greatly enjoyed all of the posting regarding lyric
exploration and the sharing that comes with examining how the words of amy
and emily are relevant to all of our lives; it is nice to know that there are
others in the world who think about music on such an intimate level.  i think
that this is a great idea!

on a side note...i wrote my senior thesis in college about the indigo girls,
and i am always looking for people who can lend their opinions and
experiences.  (i was a women's studies major...what a blast!)  anyway, anyone
who is interested is welcome to read it...no pressure, though.

take care-
jill

"sometimes i ask to sneak a closer look
skip to the final chapter of the book
and then maybe steer us clear from some of the pain it took
to get us where we are this far
but the question drowns in its futility
even i have got to laugh at me
no one gets to miss the storm of what will be
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in a message dated 11/22/1999 9:28:59 pm pacific standard time,
sneakyjean@yahoo.com writes:

> i actually have an .mp3 of them doing "uncle john's band" that i found
>  on napster.  it must be an early recording, because i think they'd kick
>  it up some now, and as it is it's a pretty straight forward version.

ig's version?  it was on one of the first dead tribute albums called
"deadicated," which was released in '91.  it's a great version! :)  i think
the album is oop now though...does anyone know?  i do tend to see it every so
often in used cd stores, however.  michelle malone has a song on it too...it
has some good people on it. :)

mis

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deadicated is still available on cdnow i know, since i just ordered it
last week!
:)carrie

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subject:      great women's shows this weekend in buffalo

hey y'all,

ig listee sarah pinsker is going to be my special guest this coming sunday
at 8pm at nietzsche's in buffalo, along with my friends kathy moriarty,
pamela ryder, aerin tedesco, and lea prentiss, and a number of possible
surprise guests.  details are on my newly redesigned gigs page
http://angelfire.com/ny3/havanamoon/timsgigs.html which now sports a
discography of the three cds i've contributed two within the past year.

also, my friends in the all-woman blues/rock band ethyl will be holding
their cd release party at nietzsche's on saturday night at 10 pm.  you can
find a direct link to ethyl's website and a lot of other cool sites on my
missing lynx music links page.

happy thanksgiving to all,
tim

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in a message dated tue, 23 nov 1999  1:17:54 am eastern standard time, jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com> writes:

> so this is an idea just for the single women?  is it's focus just
> dating?  or making friends?
>

i think it'd be cool to make it's focus on dating.  then  no one would make the mistake of confusing friendship with a more romantic angle.  i think the regular ig list is cool for making friends.  i've made many through the list.  i think a branch off of this list would be cool to be a dating list.  someone on the list already has a website for pen-pals.
>
>
>
> --- lisa r <lisa071573@aol.com> wrote:
> > i second this motion...i'm not much of a social butterfly so i have
> > such a
> > hard time meeting people..this would be great! we could start a group
> > on
> > onelist or egroups...anyone interested??? i volunteer for moderator!
> > :) lisa
> >
> > << > the other thing is i wouldn't mind something set up with the
> > list
> >  >  concerning dating.  that is what i guess i have been trying to
> > say without
> >  >  soliciting i guess.
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date:         tue, 23 nov 1999 09:22:12 -0500
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lisa r wrote:

> onelist or egroups...anyone interested??? i volunteer for moderator!
> :) lisa
>
> << > the other thing is i wouldn't mind something set up with the list
>  >  concerning dating.

good!  this is a good idea.  do it.  i am not interested or i would
offer to make the list up on egroups or elsewhere, but for those that
are interested, do it.  there is obviously enough interest for such a
list.

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date:         tue, 23 nov 1999 10:22:06 est
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hey everyone
i know this was discussed not very long ago, sorry, but i kind of forgot
everyone's specific answers.  i just got a really cute email from my
friend's boyfriend and he asked me the significance to "all skate, now
reverse."  what were the suggestions you all had?  if you could, please,
email me privately and let me know what you know.  thanks very much.
lisa

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date:         tue, 23 nov 1999 15:26:38 +0000
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hiya from a grey tuesday afternoon in dublin, ireland.

i've been listening to the lovely luka bloom, and he has one track which is an
instrumental track, and i just can't stop playing it.  so it got me thinking
that i'd love if emily wrote an instrumental song.  its not that i don't love
emily's words and voice, its just she has some guitar riffs that make me stop
whatever i'm doing, and just stand (or sit) in awe at the emotion she can fill
into the chords - god imagine what a whole song of her guitar-playing would be
like!

fare thee well, my bright star(s)!
marion.

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<<i'd love if emily wrote an instrumental song - god
imagine what a whole song of her guitar-playing would
be like!>>

there's a coupla emily instrumentals on the early
recordings 3 bootleg.

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date:         tue, 23 nov 1999 07:51:33 -0800
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well, my story doesn't technically have a happy ending yet - or even a
middle - but definately an awesome beginning! so our dear listee
jennifer from s.f. and i went to the ig concerts in berkeley this fall,
and she brought along her friend alex... well, to make a long story
short, alex and i totally hit it off, and now w'ere somewhat beyond the
"wow - you're really cool phase" but still in the
awkward-giggling-blushing phase.

*giggle*

this is so cool.

so i definately met her through the list (because i met jennifer through
the list) and bonding over the love of the girls is never a bad thing!

love,
amy

ps - meeting her parents on thursday! yikes! wish me luck!

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i'm from tx!  dallas.

--- ".maritsa ." <mca10@hotmail.com> wrote:
> am i the only one in texas or what. it seems like everyones from the
> north.
> is it me?
> maritsa

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dating?!  are you crazy?  we'll be at eachother's throats in two months!!!
i don't have that much experience with love as my love life is pathetic but
i know enough to tell you that once something goes romantically wrong
between two women, things get nasty.  i think dating one another would
effectively kill this list.

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in a message dated tue, 23 nov 1999 11:48:51 am eastern standard time, julie libes <mememi@excite.com> writes:

> i know enough to tell you that once something goes >romantically wrong
> between two women, things get nasty.  i think dating >one another would
> effectively kill this list.

well, it wouldn't be this list.  people who are interested have talked of forming a different list.  and i think things have the potential of getting nasty with any kind of romantic relationship - no matter the gender.  people have been dating each other from the list already for years anyway.  and the list is still alive and kicking.  i've dated someone from this list and we didn't make it, but it hasn't harmed the list in the least.  our business does not become the list's.......so i think it's kinda crazy to think dating each other would hurt the list.

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if people are interested, i'd be more than willing to host the "love on
the list" website. i could basically post people's stories about meeting
friends/girlfriends/whatever through the list. what do ya'll think?

let me know and i can start throwing something together! :)

love,
amy

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hello ~

hey, i think the "dating list" is a great idea! go for it!   it sounds especially good to me right now, since my most recent par amour just moved to southern kentucky on halloween, and i'm feeling a bit lonely and even more restless!  i'm hedging a bet though that my chances will be mighty slim, as i get the sense that there aren't too many 40 year old single men in search of 39 year old single women on this list ...

oh well, guess i'll have to take a stab at drafting up an aol "personal" ad or something...

peace!

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delurking...

i'm from dallas too, but i go to school in new york. that's how i met lance
and how this whole thread got started :-) i think the dating list is a good
idea if people are interested. however, the theory is that you only find what
you're looking for when you're not looking. i know this is certainly the case
for us.

-the girlfriend
(aka laura)

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so my idea wouldn't really help as a meeting place - i don't know how to
program a chat room or anything, but it would still be neat to have a
collection of love stories... and i could link it to whatever egroup the
list sets up!

> ----- original message -----
> from: amy swenson <aswenson@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com>

> > if people are interested, i'd be more than willing to host the "love on
> > the list" website. i could basically post people's stories about meeting
> > friends/girlfriends/whatever through the list. what do ya'll think?
> >
> > let me know and i can start throwing something together! :)
> >
> > love,
> > amy

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all of this talk about romance is making me feel very lonely. anyone else?
as many of you know, i am in the process of coming out; it is a very
isolating feeling at times. if any of you have any advice on how to get
moving in the area of meeting people (i am in new york city), it would be
much appreciated.
by the way, i love this list. it has been a real source of strength for me. i
am forever indebted.
michelle

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to everyone who's on this thread,

when i posted the list romances thread, i didn't think it would evolve into
an ig dating game!!!  what have i done?  what have i started?

i think it's a great idea.  i hope everyone can be as happy as we are.

go for it!!!

l'sly

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okay, all you romantic people, so who's going to relocate to montana to
settle down with this groovy chick? oh come on, people, it'll be fun!
where's your sense of adventure? start the bidding at $5.

ok, not really, just kidding. send no money. meet me at the brand spankin'
new lovelist instead. that is, if anyone gets one going. i was just
weighing in with my support for it. if i had any spare time, i'd do it
myself, but unfortunately...

sigh, there comes a point at which you'll try anything.

amy m.

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i could set something up on delphi, right...and that would be seperate from
the list, yet be a place where one could post, and they have java chatrooms
that'll pop up....and even could start an egroups or onelist list.
ah, many options.  i haven't read through all the email on this topic, but
i'll go look into it if you guys want me to....
and of course, it would be very inclusive.  all sexual identies, genders,
etc.
i'm going to look into it right now...
-melly

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isn't that the truth?!?!

ok so my wife and i didn't meet on this list but we did meet online in
#lesbian (and the defunct #lesbos) on irc (remember those days shanie?).

we started out as friends. after all, i was involved with someone else (whom
i also met online) at the time. it became clear to the both of us that the
relationship wasn't going to work out (with her being north of the border
and all). we decided to break up in person (wasn't the first time we met as
i took a bus all the way up there on a spring break once) which ended up
being a big mistake. let's just say the breakup didn't go as well as planned
and my wife (whom i had not met yet, only talked in irc and the phone (oooh
baybee!) ended up driving from seattle to vancouver to pick me up.

with both of us pretty fresh out of pretty bad relationships, our intentions
were to just "date". she'd show me around seattle. well, a week later she
said she didn't want me to leave and i said ummm, ok and we have been
together ever since. we celebrate 5 years in may and are still totally in
love with each other!

and it wasn't until we got together that i finally got to see the girls
live! and i just added times 9 and 10 to our little musical history.

ryan

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> only find what
> you're looking for when you're not looking.

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wow, another jill.... is jill certo still on the list?  if so that make 3 of
us (as far as i've seen).  if not, am i still (the other) jill?  how
confusing :)
(the other) jill

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i'd also like some information on this.  i don't have any vintage
stuff.  can someone tell what would be the best to start out with and
where to get it?
thanks
dawn

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> i hear there are some fairly new cd-r versions of the old "blue food"
> recording floating about which have been improved with the aid of
> digital technology.  i love my old "blue food" cassette, but i would
> love to listen to the same songs with a cleaner, crisper sound.
> (there is just something about that vintage amy ray material, sigh.)
> if such an animal does exist, does anyone have any hints on how to
> locate a copy? any info can be passed along through private email.
> thanks.
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ryan blackhawke wrote:

> ok so my wife and i didn't meet on this list but we did meet online in
> #lesbian (and the defunct #lesbos) on irc (remember those days shanie?).

i met my husbear of 6 years over an online mailing list -- the bears
mailing list, actually.  we spent 3.5 years living 150 apart, doing
online stuff nearly every day, seeing each other on the odd weekend.
irc was a huge boon -- we'd both watch animaniacs at home, and chat
online while doing so.  it was as close to being together as we could
manage most of the time.  our actual visits became more and more regular
over time until finally we moved to a new town together, combining our
lives.

online relationships can work, but so many people forget that there's a
whole "getting to know you" phase to such things, and just rush straight
from meeting each other to living together.  i'm pretty pleased that
jeff and i took our time -- by the time we actually lived together, a
lot of the conversations had already taken place, and we were really
well prepared to start a household together.

but, as ryan pointed out, it's when you're not looking that you find it.

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hkf's,

i know this might be a long shot - (and sorry for the public grovel) - but i
was wondering if this show in chicago existed in some audio form out there?
even if you have some info about this show - that would be great as well.

this is a good friend of mines first show and i was thinking of stuffing
their stocking with this show!!! (and making their first ig boot one to
remember!)  many ig shows weren't recorded at all - but i'm just curious if
this one was.

thanks!
a+e=ig

ps: i'm 5'10", brown hair, i like amy better than emily, first ig song i
heard ever was r&j, my favorite color is yellow and i like long walks in the
park and big fluffy pillows.

(wait a minute, you mean this hasn't swtiched to the 'dating ig list' yet?)

;)
hehe

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i met my girlfriend through yak.  anyone remember that?  we've been
together over 5 years now, and were dating for several before that.
how did people meet before computers and bbss?  i met a bunch of people
through bbss about 10 years ago, too.  what a great tool!
dawn


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>       >>online relationships can work, but so many people forget that
> there's a
>       whole "getting to know you" phase to such things, and just rush
> straight
>       from meeting each other to living together. <<
>
>       this is of course true, but i think also, that meeting online gives
> you a whole lot better foundation than any other place to meet.  because
> you really get to know someone before you even lay eyes on them.  that's
> how it was for susan and me anyhow.  i mean, yes, we spent a total of nine
> days together before she moved in with me from florida, *but* we'd been
> emailing for 6 months, and then after that weekend we were on instant
> messenger most of the workday, every day, and talking on the phone at
> least an hour every night.  it's really hard doing the long-distance
> thing, but it also gives you a good head start in getting to know someone
> before you just get physically infatuated.
>
>       i think it's a great idea to have an ig dating site.  you singles
> can put up little profiles about what you like and don't like and all
> that, and then only give your identity after you've been emailing a while.
> i think it'd be a cool site, and too, if there were "success stories"
> included, i could even feel like i was part of it..... <<big smiles>>
> (because, ya know, i hate being left out...  :)
>
>       tara

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hiya again
if any of you out there are interested, i just am testing something out at
www.delphi.com/igdate .   not sure if that's what you guys were looking for,
or not...it could be a very useful tool.  able to post message's on it,
upload files to it, have surveys, and talk in a real-time chat room.  we
could set up a egroups list to go along with it.......but out of respect for
list members here who don't care about it, i think active discussion of it
should take place at the delphi forum itself, or on another email list.
i'm not a programmer/consultant/web page goddess, so it's pretty
plain/utilitarian.......i could use an html tutor......just give me feedback.
(:
thanks
mel  aka gofishmel on delphi

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hi y'all.  i'm working on this.  give me a few minutes and maybe it can work
with the delphi thing.

at <http://www.egroups.com/group/indigo-singles/>.

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hey, i figured with jilly and various others posting concert info for y'all, i
might add this one, too.  devon is a charlottesville (va) singer/songwriter with
a bluesy/funky style.  dr. bindu is the band that backs her up in most of her
live stuff.  ig listee stephanie merhar opened for them last friday, if that's
any sort of recommendation.  anyway, if you're in the nyc or ct area, check 'em
out.

the mercury lounge
nyc
tuesday, november 30th
@ 8:30pm
w/tim beattie
(mercury lounge 212.260.4700)

the living room
nyc
wednesday, december 1st
@10pm
(living room 212.533.7235)

arlene's grocery
nyc
friday, december 3rd
@ 7pm
(arlene grocery 212.358.1633)

arch street
greenwich, ct
saturday, december 4th
wsg tba
show starts 8pm
(arch street 203.629.5744)

:)
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this was a great idea! i'm not in the market (old married lady), but i was
just telling a friend last week that she might try meeting some folks on a
list like this one - so i was so amazed when this whole thread started just
a day or two after our conversation! i'm going to show this to her. she
likes ig but likes tori amos and sarah m. better (i don't understand, but
ok)  - anybody know good lists for those two?

actually, i'm going to tell her to revisit her ig cds and head directly for
whatever site y'all set up. there are so many great people on this list!

-s.

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when you go to the egroups page, through my invitation, go to the 'database'
and then to the 'members' table, then all you singles can add a really
simple profile and find people who have similar interests, or live near you
or whatever.  go nuts.  it's all yours.

-tara

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okay - here's what you need to do to subscribe - send a message to this
address: indigo-singles-subscribe@egroups.com
do this to subscribe - i think this will work.  and then the previous
message i sent will make sense.

sorry for being a lame-o, i never did one of these before.

tara

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> i hear there are some fairly new cd-r versions of
> the old "blue food" recording floating about which
> have been improved with the aid of digital
> technology.

> if such an animal does exist, does anyone have any
> hints on how to locate a copy?

there's been a 'me too' post sos this goes to the
list.

i believe it was the really rather wonderful mr. neil
who created this monster. i heard say he was getting
ready to offer huge amounts o' discs to the list and
this probably will be included.

so twm says just sit tight for a few days and the
offer'll get posted to the list.


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okay - this is the last message - i promise.

this is the site: <http://www.egroups.com/group/indigo-singles/>.
to subscribe, send a message to: indigo-singles-subscribe@egroups.com
when you get there, click on 'database', then on members, then on 'add
record'

the cool thing with this is that you can set your subscription to read
messages on the web, so you won't get any extra email if you don't want.  i
mean, i would think all that would be needed is a place to put your little
ad (like in the little members table) and a place to find others, then you
can send personal email to get to know one another.

the table has room for you to list hobbies and such.  nowhere on this site
(that i know of) are you required to put in your real name, so you don't
have to reveal yourself unless you are comfortable.  this list (and anyone
whom a listee informs) are the only people that will know about its
existence.

i think that's everything.  if anyone has suggestions or improvements, etc.
just let me know.  enjoy, and i hope some of you find who you're looking
for.  or at least, we can get to know each other better.  :)

-tara

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ok..i've gone over to e-groups and added my name to the database..come on
folks don't be shy...i checked out delphi too but i'm not as familiar with
delphi as egroups...both look like a great way to start!!
:) lisa

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ok..this is only part of  the article...if you can't find it elsewhere and
want the whole thing, e-mail me and i'll send it to you...
lisa

nov. 22, 1999, 10:26pm

coalition's pamphlet on sexuality irritates conservative groups
by erica goode
new york times

a coalition of medical, mental health, educational and religious organizations
announced monday that it would send the nation's school superintendents
booklets
informing them that there is "no support among health and mental health
professional organizations" for the idea that homosexuality is abnormal or
mentally unhealthy.

the just the facts coalition, representing the american academy of pediatrics,
the national education association, the american psychological association and
seven other groups, said the 12-page booklet would be mailed today to the
heads
of all 14,700 public school districts.

the coalition said the booklet "provides information that will help school
administrators and educators to create safe and healthy environments in which
all students can achieve to the best of their ability."

the publication also expresses concerns about the potential harm to gay
students
posed by "reparative therapy" and other techniques intended to change sexual
orientation.

"i think this is a history-changing moment," said kevin jennings, executive
director of the gay, lesbian and straight education network, a new york
organization devoted to ending anti-gay bias in the schools. "the entire
mainstream education and mental health establishment has said that it isn't
lesbian, gay and bisexual students who need to change, it is the conditions in
our schools that need to change."

but conservative groups attacked the booklet, saying that it was based on
politics, not science.

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ok..another article..this is about the focus on the family conference..for
those of you who don't know...these are the ones who say you can overcome
being gay thru love in god..."everyone is heterosexual but some people have
homosexual problems.."
nice folks.
e-mail me for the article :) lisa
>
>this is my article which appeared in frontiers magazine, issue # 15, nov.
>18, 1999. this is pretty much a "straight" news story about the love won
>out conference sponored by focus on the family in sacramento on nov. 6,
>1999.. my next column which will appear in the dec. 2, 1999 will have my
>comments about the conference

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in a message dated 11/23/99 12:09:15 pm eastern standard time, abbett@aol.com
writes:

<< well, it wouldn't be this list.  people who are interested have talked of
forming a different list.  and i think things have the potential of getting
nasty with any kind of romantic relationship - no matter the gender. >>

hallelujah to that, sister!  "lists" don't get nasty...people do.
relationships sour when expectations change and we mortals are not equipped
to deal with the shift that occurs when someone decides they want something
different, regardless of  gender.  human nature, life cycles.    speaking
from both jagged edges of the broken heart, i regret hurting lovers and  i've
resented being hurt.  but life does go on, and i the key is that we deal with
it, heal, and most importantly, pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and
shine ourselves as best we can, and move forward.

i'm still chasing the kiss, in spite of it all.

peace tonight ~ v

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i am halfway through the posts on  the dating  thing.  i have no idea how to
set it up and how to go about it.  i guess get the email addresses  of those
interested and go from there

tat

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ok would someone please rexplain what the song caramina means? please

tat

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in a message dated 11/23/99 1:35:01 pm pacific standard time,
telane@trigon.com writes:

<< <http://www.egroups.com/group/indigo-singles/> >>
i am having trouble getting to the page that u referred to

tat

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i expect only emily knows what it means.  and isn't it caramia? yea i just
looked, it is.
pax
vesper

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sensibility, armed with sense and liberty
with the heart and mind united
in a single, perfect
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date:         tue, 23 nov 1999 20:04:26 -0700
reply-to:     carrie hamblen <chamblen@nmsu.edu>
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hi all,

it's amazing how many folks have met on this list and became a couples!!

my honey and i are also in the same category as many of you.  we met on
this list in january of 97.  carrie (her name is carrie, also) lived in
california and i was (am) in new mexico.  on january 6th, carrie posted
something to the list with the sig name "carebear" which happened to be my
nickname for many years.  i emailed her a quick message saying "hi" and
it's nice to see i'm not the only "carebear" on the list.  well, we
started chatting and found alot of strange similarities.  our first names
are the same, and so are our middle names, we're both born in the same
month, and lots of other behaviors were also alike.  and, we both felt the
same about political and religious issues, and we both have a sick sense
of humor, etc etc.  you get the picture.  well, there was a catch.  carrie
was married to a really nice guy and i was in a relationship that didn't
have a whole lot of potential.  but, we had only intended on being
friends.  really.  but, as things progressed and we shared more with
eachother, we stared spending more time on the computer, i would call her
and we would talk and talk and talk. she would send me tapes of her
singing ig songs (for those of you who have the smallternative tape know
what i'm talking about) and i fell in love with her voice.   one day, i
finally had the guts to tell her that i was feeling things i shouldn't
about her and she told me she was too and of course, it exploded from
there.  i was able to visit her in california in october of that year
(somehow i suddenly had $500 for a plane ticket, don't know how), and
about 10 days after i left, carrie had left her husband and moved to new
mexico.  she couldn't stand the dishonesty and left her husband on
friendly terms, after talking with him for several days about her
decision. she took a great risk to pick up everything she had and move to
a part of the country where she never thought she'd live, voluntarily.  i
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had broken up with my girlfriend a few months earlier. we knew that we
were meant to be soulmates but figured it took something as
obvious as same first and middle name, nickname, birthmonth to help us see
it clearly.  we're just passed the two year mark and are going strong.
but, it was all because of this list.  it was all because of our love of
the music of ig, what they stand for, and the kind spirits we meet when
we all come together for the same reason.

i hope that didn't bore anyone. i just wanted to share it with you all
because of what has been shared already about the "love connections" made
on this list.  i just hope there will be more people who will be able to
find the happiness that carrie and i have, as well as all the other
folks who have found their other half.  good luck to you all.

have a good night.

carrie

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date:         tue, 23 nov 1999 22:15:22 est
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ok let me apologize for a minute because i consider myself a very big fan
however i must say that i don't know how they got their name.  does anyone
know?  please tell me because i will feel like a fraud until i know this.
also does anyone know what the song johnny rotten is about, and who it is in
reference to?  also (oh no now it's 3 questions), but is there a recording of
that anywhere?...thanks....oh ok but just one more...i was at lilith this
summer and they did love's recovery with sarah....she put in a 3rd part
harmony that could make you cry...i was wondering if anyone out there in
indigo land had a copy of this?  thanks...(and sorry)  :o)

carla

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<carla bunner> wrote:
>
> ok let me apologize for a minute because i consider myself a very big fan
> however i must say that i don't know how they got their name.  does anyone
> know?  please tell me because i will feel like a fraud until i know this.

this is what i read in an interview they did for the boston globe many
years back:  either amy or emily, i forget who, was asked "how did you
come up with your name?  to which she replied "well we opened the
dictionary and just put our finger on the page - the word that we picked
was indigo - so we called ourselves the indigo girls."  i don't know if
this is true or if they were just having a bit of fun with the
interviewer.

elaine

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just thought it's fun to share. today around 4pm i heard xrt played peace
tonight, but the dj introduced the song by saying, "from indigo girls newest
cd here's least complicated". oops!!

survived another workday.

peace
dorothy

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date:         wed, 24 nov 1999 00:48:14 est
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> hi y'all.  i'm working on this.  give me a few minutes and maybe it can work
>  with the delphi thing.

oh, lord...and to think--once upon a time, when i saw the subject line "ig
singles", i immediately thought of cd singles that epic released.  those days
are over now, for better or for worse...hee hee.
(i'm single, btw ;)
peace and caffeine,
ponygrrrl

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date:         wed, 24 nov 1999 07:38:57 -0600
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so we're sitting on the couch this morning watching a boot video from 1991
when my gf says to me, "you know what i'd like for christmas?  a video from
this tour."  so.....anyone know if such a thing exists?  you'd make me and
my gf very happy!  have lots to trade!
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date:         wed, 24 nov 1999 08:49:10 est
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oh, just because i have to find a way to make it through work today, thought
i'd share.  a woman with whom i am working on an upcoming project has this
email address - stillwaters@....  when i read it, see, type it, whatever, it
makes me smile.  i love that image in the song, i love the quiet of it, the
slowness of it, it's so soft and gentle and beautiful.  so now at least when
i have to email her about all the stressful stuff i'll have to organize,
i'll have something that will remind me of calm and peace and i'll smile.  i
love little things like that.  they really can make a huge difference.

and by the way, the love connections some of you have shared, well, they all
sound amazing.  like others, i'm reading them thinking, okay, when is it my
turn?  but at least i know it can happen.  thanks for sharing your stories.

lisa

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date:         wed, 24 nov 1999 09:04:47 -0500
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hey gang - help me win free promotion for my cd by voting it best indie
album on 'cdbaby.com'

just go here--->
http://www.cdbaby.com/cgi-local/softcart.exe/vsearch.php3?e+cdbaby
and type in my old band's name "in clover".  that's all you gotta do, and it
would help me out a lot.

plus - there's some cool stuff on this site, not just my disc, but lots of
indie albums with soundbytes and stuff.

thanks a lot,
tara

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hey y'all!  can't believe the site is up and working (for most people) -
there are already 32 members and 12 profiles added just since yesterday
afternoon.  go for it you guys - i'm enjoying playing matchmaker...because
everyone should have a love as great as mine, and it's ever so nice when
they're as big an ig nut as you.

to subscribe, send a message to: indigo-singles-subscribe@egroups.com
you can set it up to read any messages on the web or through email, but
that's not really what the site is for.
this is the site: <http://www.egroups.com/group/indigo-singles/>.
when you get there, click on 'database', then on members, then on 'add
record'.

you can search through the table for things that interest you, then email
the person and strike up a conversation.

there's also a chat thingy, but i'd think you'd have to tell someone to meet
you there at a certain time, because when i've checked nobody's been there.
you need java to make chat work, but everything else should work fine, and
the main thing is to add your info to the 'members' tables, so nice people
will email you.  :)

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what a wonderful idea.  i have really enjoyed reading about
everyone's romance experience through being ig fans. how
romantic.

i, like susan, am also an old married lady (3 years in may)
but i wish all of you singles out there the best of luck and also
i want to wish everyone a happy happy happy thanksgiving.

cathy

ps.  just 21 days until my big solo adventure (without hubby)
to atlanta.  for those who have emailed in support of my big
adventure, i will be getting back to you soon - i thinks i'm gonna
have a couple of questions about the locations of certain establishments
(watershed, common pond & flying biscuit)

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http://www.rantnrave.org/interview.cfm?intid=2

           amy ray interview
>             by hollis w. duncan
>
>             indigo girls
>
>             on april 12, i woke up to a richmond radio station's morning
show as one of
>             the hosts was announcing the day's celebrity birthdays. "amy
ray is 35
>             today," were the first words i heard. lying there i was
thinking "i bet amy's
>             pissed" because your fighting spirit seems to disavow
mortality, growing
>             older, and that sort of thing. happy late birthday by the
way. were you
>             pissed?
>
>             no, but i am pissed that time is apparently linear.
>
>             since your independent self-titled ep release, in 1986, and
the days of playing
>             summertime gigs in decatur's [ga] town square, a lot has
changed [sigh]. the
>             one constant has been the indigo girls' staying power in a
music era where so
>             many new artists have quickly faded away. what have been your
keys to
>             success?
>
>             our main key to success is touring. we started touring very
early so
>             our career had a base. we have never had to count on anybody but
>             ourselves - everything else is icing on the cake. also we
surround
>             ourselves with good honest people and not hype types who talk a
>             lot but can't follow through. we are not afraid to reinvent
ourselves.
>
>             emily [saliers] explained in a billboard interview (december
15, 1990) "part of
>             what we're about as artists is trying to connect with people
and their lives
>             through music. to us, that's a much higher priority than how
well our albums
>             sell or how many magazines we're featured in." almost a
decade later, has
>             your perspective changed and what are the most significant
challenges
>             you've faced in achieving this priority?
>
>             no, this is still our highest priority. the main challenge to
this has
>             been ego - it is hard being ignored by mainstream rock press.
>
>             in the opening minutes of your shows, you seem to scan the
audience to
>             catch a glimpse of the individuals in that "sea full of
faces" peering up at you.
>             you do possess a natural rapport with your audience. is this
done
>             purposefully, hoping to connect with your audience, or are
the stage lights just
>             too bright?
>
>             we do need to see some faces. i have a better show if i know
who i
>             am singing to. the most disconcerting thing is to not see the
>             audience but still be aware of the back theater doors where
you can
>             see constant hub bub and moving about. i close my eyes some
>             nights just to focus better. but it doesn't mean i am unaware
of the
>             audience.
>
>             in an interview with time's christopher john farley (may 23,
1994), you
>             explained: "me solo is too much of me...emily solo is too much
of emily." what
>             seems to fit then is the combo of your distinct personalities
and songwriting
>             styles--emily being more gentle and musically complex with
folk roots. when
>             did you first realize playing with emily was something special?
>
>             we started when i was 15 and emily was 16. at that point it
was all
>             about fun and teenager stuff.... the specialness was more in
>             friendship and crazy circumstances we would find ourselves in
>             when playing at bars as underagers. emily was always ahead of me
>             musically so i understood what we had in the context of her
ability to
>             motivate and create a career. our partnership is based on the
>             different talents musical and non musical that we bring to
the table.
>             at this point they are still constantly changing and being
redefined.
>             that's what keeps it special.
>
>             struggling to succeed in the music business can make it easy
to lose sight of
>             the joy of the art--the reason you fell in love with music in
the first place. what
>             ways have you tried to "keep it real" in the music business?
>
>             one way to keep it real has been to have an indie label on
the side.
>             this gives me constant perspective and inspiration. also we
tour in
>             different ways - with a band / without a band in a wide
variety of
>             venues. our activism keeps us inspired as well as humble and
>             allows us to go places like chiapas, mexico and cuba.
>
>             daemon records
>
>             how has daemon records grown since you founded it in 1990?
what lessons
>             have you learned?
>
>             i have learned how to delegate... when i started the label i did
>             everything myself but now i have great people working
for/with me
>             who are ultimately better at what they do then i could ever
be. my
>             most important lesson has been to stay in your own community.
>             every time i strayed from this i ended up regretting it. now
most of
>             my artists are regionally based in the south east with a
couple of
>             exceptions. we have tried to maintain our support of the atlanta
>             music community in general by doing things to help other
bands, not
>             just daemon bands. a lot of business lessons have come with ten
>             years but they are pretty mundane - things to do with pricing,
>             distribution, timing of releases, etc.. i have had to learn
to deal with
>             the ups and downs of relationships with artists. some artists
have
>             felt that daemon was a free ride to success because of my
>             connections, but you can't get anywhere unless you tour and work
>             your butt off. when bands have this attitude i start
resenting them...
>             but i should really just let go.. they'll learn for
themselves. my
>             biggest hurdle is my own success as an indigo girl. i have to
learn to
>             recognize bands that are truly into the indie spirit and want
to tour
>             and develop, in other words bands that don't assume because i
have
>             a big deal and money that once they are on daemon they are in... i
>             can't buy that for anyone.
>
>             daemon records has two fantastic new releases out-three
finger cowboy's
>             hooray for love and rose polenzani's anybody. what do you
think of these
>             two bands?
>
>             i obviously love them both. maybe you could describe them to
me...?
>
>             what other bands should we keep an eye out for from daemon in
the future?
>
>             a cool new trip hop outfit - chuck d meets the grateful dead
- justin
>             hale.
>
>             what are the prerequisites for a band or indie artist hoping
to become a part of
>             the diversity of daemon records? what specifics do you look
for?
>
>             my main requirements are creative/accomplished songwriting, a
>             dedication to indie music, touring, touring, touring, and
regional
>             proximity.
>
>             the inside page of daemon's 1998-99 catalog attributes the
phrase "rock is
>             cool... but the struggle is better" (which is also now part of
a verse on "go")
>             to you. how so?
>
>             meaning i guess that daemon is meant to be about the music but
>             also about the community at large. daemon is dedicated to its
>             activist past as well as its records.
>
>             what bands outside of daemon records have you discovered
lately?
>
>             i love the butchies on mr. lady records.
>
>             new/upcoming releases
>
>             pretend you're a music critic. how do you describe the new
album come on
>             now social; where does it fit in the indigo catalog?
>
>             i consider our new record the best of our past and the
promise of
>             our future, it's a much bolder and committed record than our
past
>             releases. i find the songs to be more of the world rather
than so
>             insular.
>
>             what does, "raise your hands high/don't take a seat/don't
stand aside/this
>             time don't assume anything/go! go! go!," mean to amy ray?
>
>             it's a call to action, don't assume that you will lose or
win... just act.
>
>             the chorus and first verse of "go" first appeared as a
mystery track (track 13;
>             disc 2) on 1200 curfews; you've been kicking around versions
through sound
>             checks and live shows for years. so it occurred to me that a
song can be
>             "old" by the time it surfaces on an album. how has "go"
evolved? briefly,
>             share how the high school kids from south carolina inspired
you to finish
>             writing the song.
>
>             go started out as a song about my own personal rebellion but
>             this didn't feel right, so i shelved it. when all those kids
in south
>             carolina and tennessee came to our aid i felt inspired. they
>             understood the importance of struggle and stance and rebellion.
>             sometimes this struggle is more important than the hipness of
>             rock. on the other hand i recognize that music/rock is a
rebellion -
>             when music can gather people together - well that's a
movement in
>             itself. but i was feeling thankful to them for staying out
the storm
>             with us and inspired because they had the fire inside.
>
>             do you have a favorite emily song on the new album?
>
>             the one that affects me the most emotionally is "andy"... but i
like
>             playing "trouble" the most.
>
>             is it true that "ozilline" is a song about your grandmother
ozilline walker? what
>             has her wisdom taught you?
>
>             yes "ozilline" and some other people also - the wisdom of the
song
>             or that i have tried to learn is about the simple cycles of
life and how
>             to learn from them and how to appreciate beauty in the face of
>             physical pain.
>
>             twenty-five years since you and emily met as 10-year-old
atlanta school girls,
>             you both look so comfortable with yourselves on the stage.
with little left to
>             prove musically or otherwise, what's the best part for you now?
>
>             well i would say we have a lot to learn musically still, so
the best part
>             is learning still. the activism has become massively
important and
>             fulfilling.
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hey, i've got another question.  in love's recovery at the end when she
"feels safe within the arms of love's discovery" has she met someone
new or gone back with the old person.  i say that she found love with a
new person.  a friend and i had an arguement about this a few years
ago, and i'm still thinking about it!!  she says that she re-discovered
her love.
anyone have the scoop?

dawn
ps happy turkey day!

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yesterday i finally got a piano again. it's been 7 months since i've
touched a keyboard - the longest in my entire life (well, until i was
4), and so i played for about 4 hours.

to make a long story short, i mostly figured out a nice piano
arrangement of philosophy of loss. right now it's still in my head, but
if any of you want me to mail you a photocopy when i get it transcribed
(probably this weekend), let me know and i'll be glad to help!

also if anyone can mail me chords from the new songs, that would be
cool! i know i've seen 'em floating around, but silly me erased all the
emails!

for those of you who haven't voted in my survey yet, it's not too late!
i'll keep it up til monday morning... so far, these are the results:

cons - 6
sots - 0!!!! (come on, there has to be someone out there who likes it!)
so - 22
rop - 18
nis - 6
ig - 2
sf - 2

i'm most surprised...
1) that cons has more votes than ig and sf combined!
and
2) that no one seems to like sots at all!

curious.

anyhow, vote if ya want! it's on my "goodies" page.

love,
amy

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i took the "discovery" in this line to mean acceptance...ie, she may have
been with this person before, but can finally accept being with them, or
have her eyes opened to the possibility of love with this person.

i know we've talked about this song as a "coming-out" song, and, while i
don't know what emily's thoughts were when she was writing it, i think that
context works well.

take care,
shel


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>date: wed, 24 nov 1999 08:17:39 -0800
>
>hey, i've got another question.  in love's recovery at the end when she
>"feels safe within the arms of love's discovery" has she met someone
>new or gone back with the old person.  i say that she found love with a
>new person.  a friend and i had an arguement about this a few years
>ago, and i'm still thinking about it!!  she says that she re-discovered
>her love.
>anyone have the scoop?
>
>dawn
>ps happy turkey day!
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i have always seen this as a metaphor.  the arms of love's discovery being
not so much a person, but a new discovery of one's self.  the discovery that
you can love again...that you can love at all.

i've always enjoyed the less literal meaning of the indigo girls....they are
very universal that way.

just my thoughts on one of my fave songs.

claudia

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dawn manuel wrote:
>
> in love's recovery . . .
>   i say that she found love with a new person. . . .
> anyone have the scoop?

i think the answer is what you want it to be.  to me, there is no "the
song means this" or "the song means that" - to me, a song is always
subject to your interpretation and can mean anything you think it means
to you, while it may mean something completley different or subject to
some other interpretation that you never would even think. it's how a
particular song has moved you or touched you, because you can relate it
to a particular event in your life or a feeling or a hard time or . . .
whatever.  that is what's so nice about songs - there is no absolute
interpretation, in my opinion.

elaine - happy "indulging in dead fowl carcass" day!
"go veggies!"

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i agree completely.  that's what i enjoy about music.  i just wondered
what other people thought about it.  i always enjoy new ideas.  it's
neat to listen to a song in a completely different way than you have
heard it before.
the beauty is in the ears of the interpreter!  :)
dawn

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i'm looking for people who would like to jam and do some fun music with
me.  i play piano/keyboard, a little bit of guitar and sing (somewhat) --
and i've written quite a few songs.  it's been difficult finding people
here in san diego with my taste in music to get together and sing some
harmony or jam on some instruments.  this list might be able to help me
since we all have something in common as far as favorite music group goes!
:)

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hey y'all~
    i joined the ig singles thing on egroups and i'm up and running. it's
cool to see how many people have already joined. go for it! it's wicked cool.
everyone's profiles are so fun to read but i'm the only one from up north!
anyone else on this list live in new hampshire/ norhtern massachusettes?
peace, love, indigo,
~alyssa

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i heard on the radio for the first time that the minneapolis show is "sold out"!!!

i think that rocks.

peace,
kara.

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okay, maybe this was discussed earlier and i missed it.  what exactly is a
scooter boy?
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hi everyone,

i'm from melbourne (living in chicago now though) but will be moving to
perth for the summer to be in a show.. i don't know *anyone* there at all
and was wondering if anyone on the list is from around that area? anyone
know if there's any kind of gay scene there at all? anyway, i'd love to meet
up with some listees if anyone's on that side of the country :)

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scooter boys are guys who live in the uk and ride scooters.  perhaps you have
seen one of the fine young cannibals' video?  those are scooter boys.


on wed, 24 nov 1999, sheryl jones wrote:

> okay, maybe this was discussed earlier and i missed it.  what exactly is a
> scooter boy?
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wasn't the film "quadrophenia" about scooter boys?

vivo de milagro wrote:
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> scooter boys are guys who live in the uk and ride scooters.  perhaps you have
> seen one of the fine young cannibals' video?  those are scooter boys.

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quadrophenia was about the rivalry between the mods and the rockers in 60's
england, so yes it was partially about "scooter boys."  that soundtrack by
the way is a lot better than tommy in my humble opinion.
vesper

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yes, got that tape in the mail today and i am all set to start making copies
for listmembers and whoever else wants one.  i hope you saved my address
because i am not about to repeat it in front of the world but email me if you
need more directions.  please send a sase so the tape will get back to you.
a 60 min blank should do it.

i'll repost this after y'all  get your thanksgiving plate clean ;)

and to others who live away, please don't be discouraged from asking for the
tape.  i do australia, i do europe, i do canada :)  yeah!

jude :)

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i've always seen love's recovery as sort of a coming-out song. the way i've
always taken it is that she was struggling with love - trying to love guys
when it was really women she loved. then at the end "i feel safe within the
arms of love's discovery" i've always thought that she was finally in
acceptance of her love and that being a lesbian doesn't mean you can't love -
it's still love but you have to accept it in yourself first.
take care y'all and have a nice thanksgiving (i, myself will be enjoying a
nice vegetarian dinner!)
~alyssa

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hi folks,

two things...

i was unfortunately without email service during the newest ig list
spin-off, so this is a bit belated.

**the current ownership of the indigo girls list does not in any way
condone, support, or have an association with the indigo singles
egroup.  any comments, concerns, or problems should be addressed to the
egroups site and not the ig list.**

this is not intended to make any personal statements about the egroup,
but rather to ensure in writing that the indigo girls list and indigo
singles egroup are two separate entities.

please remember to refer and keep all further dating discussions on the
egroup.


secondly, like many other listees, i am heading out of town for a few
days.  if a problem arises, please be patient and i will be attending to
all my email on monday, nov. 29.

thank you and have a great weekend.

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when sheryl crow spoke of emily at the denver lillith faire, she said,
"emily saliers, who wrote the most increadible song....love's recovery"  (or
something to that affect).

melissa


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> i've always seen love's recovery as sort of a coming-out song. the way
i've
> always taken it is that she was struggling with love - trying to love guys
> when it was really women she loved. then at the end "i feel safe within
the
> arms of love's discovery" i've always thought that she was finally in
> acceptance of her love and that being a lesbian doesn't mean you can't
love -
> it's still love but you have to accept it in yourself first.
> take care y'all and have a nice thanksgiving (i, myself will be enjoying a
> nice vegetarian dinner!)
> ~alyssa
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date:         thu, 25 nov 1999 17:39:25 +1000
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hey ya'll,

got the suprise of my life when gone again came on the radio this
afternoon!  i've only ever heard ctf and least complicated before now.  it
was on the abc brisbane station.

have a good one,
annie

ps. hope all the americans on the list have a great thanksgiving :-)

                "when the winds blow things round and back again,
                   what was once your pain wil be your home"
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date:         thu, 25 nov 1999 05:02:25 est
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hi y'all! well i just got the new berkeley cd in the mail from a generous
toriphile and i have to say it's wonderful...it's from the first night and it
sounds great! (tori fans definitely know how to tape...) so if anyone wants a
copy - on tape cause i don't have a burner - just e-mail me  and i can give
you my address...it fits on a 110min tape and be warned that you are going to
have to listen to some rose polenzani on it too (heeheehee). anyway, i
haven't made too many copies of the one that i had but if i made you one of
mine (which wasn't that great) just e-mail me and we can arrange something if
you'd like the better copy. (ahem, jude - we could trade for the interview
tape :)

anyway, the singles thing seems to be going well...alyssa darling -
unfortunately i live in cali but i'm from nh if that makes you feel any
better :)

:) lisa (who will be eating veggie stuffing and broccoli and aspargus with
some cheap wine and the x-files marathon tomorrow :)

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date:         thu, 25 nov 1999 05:05:05 est
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well, we're probably all on the mm mailing list but for anyone who is not...

happy holidays!
lots of shows coming up...look for west coast dates early next year!
and there's a big holiday special on the new cd at www.michellemalone.com...
love to all,
michelle

nov 25 smith's thanksgiving night w/ band  atl
nov 26 grey eagle asheville,nc
nov 27 grady health care coalition benefit atl
nov 30 glad benefit atl
dec 1 nashville  jodies
    2 knoxville  bird's eye view
    3 bullfishes cinci,oh
    4 stargaze  chicago
    5 chicago theatre w/indigo girl's
    7 murat theatre indianapolis ig's
    9 acoustic cafe blk rock, ct
    10 boston house concert (private)
'   11 nj house concert  (private)
    12 nyc meow mix  with farrell and katy of moxie
    14 louisville, ky palace theatre ig's
    17 tabernacle w/ ig's atl
    18 eddie's attic (7pm-all ages/nonsmoking and 9pm-21+)
                          and wras music show (3pm)   atl
    19 borders in store   cobb pkwy 3pm   atl

:) lisa (who can't wait for the west coast dates!!)

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date:         thu, 25 nov 1999 11:23:18 -0500
reply-to:     kim & rhea <reebee@otherside.com>
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the flyers that are posted in louisville say that the butchies will be with
them on december 14, but it everything i see of this list says mm will be
with them.  anybody know for sure?


kim & rhea

"sometimes i ask to sneak a closer look, skip to the final chapter of the
book...
but the question drowns in its futility, and even i have got to laugh at
me."

emily saliers
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date: sun, 12 dec 1999 20:47:01 +0000
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date: thursday, november 25, 1999 4:50 am
subject: micchelle malone dates sigc


>well, we're probably all on the mm mailing list but for anyone who is
not...
>
>happy holidays!
>lots of shows coming up...look for west coast dates early next year!
>and there's a big holiday special on the new cd at
www.michellemalone.com...
>love to all,
>michelle
>
>nov 25 smith's thanksgiving night w/ band  atl
>nov 26 grey eagle asheville,nc
>nov 27 grady health care coalition benefit atl
>nov 30 glad benefit atl
>dec 1 nashville  jodies
>    2 knoxville  bird's eye view
>    3 bullfishes cinci,oh
>    4 stargaze  chicago
>    5 chicago theatre w/indigo girl's
>    7 murat theatre indianapolis ig's
>    9 acoustic cafe blk rock, ct
>    10 boston house concert (private)
>'   11 nj house concert  (private)
>    12 nyc meow mix  with farrell and katy of moxie
>    14 louisville, ky palace theatre ig's
>    17 tabernacle w/ ig's atl
>    18 eddie's attic (7pm-all ages/nonsmoking and 9pm-21+)
>                          and wras music show (3pm)   atl
>    19 borders in store   cobb pkwy 3pm   atl
>
>:) lisa (who can't wait for the west coast dates!!)
>
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date:         thu, 25 nov 1999 14:31:27 -0500
reply-to:     havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com>
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subject:      re: my first potential indigo recruit! - teaching the so-called
              'teacher'

i'm spending the early part of this thanksgiving day scanning through the
hundreds of unread posts that have accumulated while i've been busy
designing web pages, and this one struck a raw nerve.  how can anyone in a
position of authority show so much disrespect and so little understanding?
(pardon my naivety, but i only crawl out from under my rock on sunny
days....)

most jazz that i've heard in recent years is so devoid of feeling (to these
ears) that it bears as much semblance to the music i love as a
connect-the-dots book has to an original oil painting, but i would never
tell a jazz aficionado that he didn't know scat about music.  similarly, the
blues genre seems to have devolved into an endless array of stevie ray
clones, although there are still some creative folks out there like alvin
'youngblood' hart and chris thomas king if you look hard enough.  and if
blues as a genre isn't repetitive, i don't know what is.  but i still
wouldn't be disrespectful in voicing my disagreement to said teacher.

in recent years i've become increasingly aware of the gender bias in music,
especially since i work with a substantial number of songwriters and
musicians who happen to be women.  another local promoter once commented
that he didn't understand how i could do so many shows (pre-lilith fair)
with so many women.... the fact that i simply liked their music personally
and wanted to help them to broaden their audience seems difficult to grasp
in a world that continually focuses on the bottom line.

how about having him give a listen to ani's 'to the teeth?'

peace,
tim


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>ok, a coupla weeks ago, i informed my teacher of my favorite band (guess
>who), and he said i didn't know shit about music. i was too stunned to
defend
>myself, but he seemed to think it was strictly pop music, so i'm not sure
he
>knows what he's talking about. i found out that anything that is ever
played
>on the radio is pop to him, and we all know you can't just listen to indigo
>girls' singles, right?
>
>anyway, today he challenged me to change his mind. he'll bring me a tape,
>since i explained to him that you can't just listen to one album to
>understand their music.
>so, the point of this post is to get suggestions for what to put on
there...i
>know he's into jazz and blues and he said that he likes good music-i think
he
>said something about not being repetitive you know, smart stuff (which
>shouldn't be too hard to find)...so...any suggestions?
>
>thanx, celeste:)

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hello all, this is michelle,
    i have spent the past week with my grandmother who is visiting here from
baton rouge. as some of you know, i have come out to a few friends but no
family. it has been pretty hard to sit through the comments that my very
conservative, opinionated grandmother has made, but i am trying. i have never
really realized how much she prejudges everyone! it makes me feel even more
sure that i could never tell her about me. i did play her some songs from the
indigo girls new cd and she actually liked them! of course, she has no idea
that they are lesbians so that might have changed everything. playing the cd
was my only means of relief! thanks to the indigo girls!
michelle

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date:         thu, 25 nov 1999 17:24:52 -0500
reply-to:     bonnie lacey <blacey@aye.net>
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from:         bonnie lacey <blacey@aye.net>
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this just struck me.  beck (an artist i love) is regaled for dissecting
so many genres of music.  he's pop, he's rock, he's hip hop, he's
country.  the business seems to love this about him and he has become
very mainstream despite the fact that every album is a new beck.  now, i
see the ig in this same exact position.  they cross all musical borders,
continually reinvent themselves, and are nothing short of excellent, yet
they get no recognition and noone seems to know what to do with them.
this is so tedious to me.  is it a gender thing?  is it a gay thing?
anybody have any deep thoughts on this?

also, i have some things to say about love's recovery, which i have
spent literally years trying to understand.  my take on it is that it's
a couple who have been together some years and gone through bad times,
and the song is about recovering or realizing just what they have.  as
the years go by, they see all their friends breaking up "on the road to
fairer weather", and even though "it's stormy now, i feel safe within
the arms of love's recovery".  she speaks of how idealistic she was
about love in her younger days, and toward the end she says something
like"and tell our friends we thought were so together, that these are
ghosts and mirages, all these thoughts of fairer weather".  that may be
my favorite line of any song ever.  it resonates - after i was married
about 7 or 8 years, i suddenly said whoa, is this it???  but now after
14 years, i see that all those tribulations and hard times bring people
together and forge a bond like no other in life.  i guarantee if i
wasn't married to this person i would have left him long ago, but i'm
glad i didn't.  we recovered our love, and i think that's what this song
is about.  recognizing that life is not easy, that there is not some
bright spot just around the corner.  life is hard as hell, and you
basically go from one hard experience to another, but if you have a
solid love, you feel safe, even though it's stormy out there.  i hope
this makes sense.

xoxo,

bonnie

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date:         thu, 25 nov 1999 20:43:41 est
reply-to:     emilyraliers@aol.com
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from:         vesper evensong <emilyraliers@aol.com>
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in a message dated 11/25/99 2:31:54 pm pacific standard time, blacey@aye.net
writes:

> is it a gender thing?  is it a gay thing?
>  anybody have any deep thoughts on this?
>
i think it is both a gender and a gay thing, and it stinks.
pax
vesper

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date:         thu, 25 nov 1999 19:29:16 pst
reply-to:     diane wong <arle@hotmail.com>
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this is just a heads-up to those who missed the world cafe with the indigo
girls--they are replaying the interview/music on november 27, 1999--i guess
the weekend world cafe.

take care everyone, and hope you had a happy thanksgiving!

diane

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date:         thu, 25 nov 1999 23:38:11 -0500
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subject:      re: what's beck got that ig don't???  also love's recovery
x-to:         bonnie lacey <blacey@aye.net>

it's a marketing thing.  the major label machine runs on hyperbole and ton$
of ca$h.  and it's target audience is not hard core fans, but rather casual
record buyers who'll buy the next new thing they think is cool.  i'm
convinced that the majors generally prefer one hit wonders to serious
artists, because a) they're invariably hungry and naive, and b) the record
companies can maximize their profits while paying out little more than a
carrot on a stick.

columbia/epic (sony), to their credit, has a history of sticking with their
artists to a greater degree than most, but generally less is spent on
promotion with each succeeding album.  when an artist's fan base ages to the
point that they no longer buy records in the necessary quantities, the label
may lose interest, as has happened with such legends as johnny cash and
willie nelson, both of whom created superb albums on indie labels after
being dumped by sony.

a much as we love amy and emily, i doubt that their likenesses on a cd cover
is likely to cause very many pubescent boys to part with their allowances,
and only 10% of the girls 8)

imagine yourself as a male record company executive with piles of cash to
spend and the choice between spending it to promote ig or mariah
carey???....ig or mariah carey????.....ig who????

my point is that the girls have succeeded in reaching a level that is
beyond, i'm sure, even the fondest expectations of their most ardent early
supporters.  i am certain that they will eventually receive their just due
in terms of recognition; there comes a point when even the myopic record
industry simply has to sit up and take notice.  look at how long it took
bonnie raitt......

and she isn't gay....

i, for one, am exceedingly thankful that amy and emily have had the type of
career that has allowed them room to grow within their music, the freedom to
interact with fans at a grassroots level without becoming inaccessible media
superstars, and the freedom to lend their occasional time and energies to
other ventures and worthy causes.  in an era supposedly devoid of heroes,
the indigo girls are my guiding light....

peace,
tim

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from: bonnie lacey <blacey@aye.net>

>this just struck me.  beck (an artist i love) is regaled for dissecting
>so many genres of music.  he's pop, he's rock, he's hip hop, he's
>country.  the business seems to love this about him and he has become
>very mainstream despite the fact that every album is a new beck.  now, i
>see the ig in this same exact position.  they cross all musical borders,
>continually reinvent themselves, and are nothing short of excellent, yet
>they get no recognition and noone seems to know what to do with them.
>this is so tedious to me.  is it a gender thing?  is it a gay thing?
>anybody have any deep thoughts on this?
>

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wow. i have been singing this song for years, and i never thought about it
that way befor... i've been going over the lyrics in my head as i am realing
list postings... i think you are totally right on. gee, for that matter i
don't think i have ever really thought about those lyrics at all. now i got to
go listen to it again...

have a happy turkey/carrot/lasagna/tahini day!
go veggieheads!

peace, pride, and pickles,
the leading vegitarian wannabe meredith

crz4indigo@aol.com wrote:
i've always seen love's recovery as sort of a coming-out song. the way i've
always taken it is that she was struggling with love - trying to love guys
when it was really women she loved. then at the end "i feel safe within the
arms of love's discovery" i've always thought that she was finally in
acceptance of her love and that being a lesbian doesn't mean you can't love -
it's still love but you have to accept it in yourself first.
take care y'all and have a nice thanksgiving (i, myself will be enjoying a
nice vegetarian dinner!)
~alyssa

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from:         sasha friedman <indigofrk@aol.com>
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hey yall
this was emailed to me and i dont have any boots on cd to trade with this
girl, however if any of you with them would be willing to trade, that would
be real cool. please respond to her, not me...
at maritsa10@aol.com. thanks...

peace
sasha

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<< hi i was wondering if you knew of anyone with ig cd boots and willing to
trade. thanks and have a good holiday or whats left of it.
maritsa >>


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hi i was wondering if you knew of anyone with ig cd boots and willing to
trade. thanks and have a good holiday or whats left of it.
maritsa

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   i know this isn't exactly ig content, but i wanted to share my horrible
thanksgiving with a group of understanding people.  first of all, my sister
and i are very close to each other.  we're like 5 years apart, i'm 23 and
she's 18, a senior in high school, and we're from a very conservative little
southern town, (thank god i don't live there any more!).  i have been dating
some girls for about a year now, but one girl in particular for the last 6
months.  i decided to tell my sister about everything like a month ago.  i
told her because she is like my best friend and i trusted her.  at first she
didn't take it well, she could not believe what she was hearing.  she didn't
understand why i would do something like that.  gradually she got better,
joked about it some and loved being around amy, my girlfriend.  well, today
while my mom, aunt, and i were cooking and getting ready for dinner, my
sister and i got into a petty little fight.  it was silly and stupid about me
wearing her sweater.  she was being a bitch about it, kept nagging me until
finally i took it off and gave it back.  mom told her how stupid and mean she
was being (which was very true) and made her even more mad so she went
upstairs to her room.  when she got upstairs, she screamed back
down...."misty, why don't you start dating boys and quit dating girls, go
ahead and tell everybody you're gay.  i think they should know that you have
a girlfriend and that you're a lesbian!"  i never would have thought in a
million years she would have done that. i have never been hurt like this
before in my life. it's my decision when, where, how i want to tell my
family..not her's!  i was shocked, denied it, and yelled back that if i had a
girlfriend, then it was my business.  my mom yelled up to her "ok, she's gay,
it's alright".  it's like my mom really did believe it, (because maybe i have
slightly hinted around for a while), but she didn't like my sister "outing"
me.  my mom loves me no matter what, but i should have been the one to tell
her.  so it's been a miserable day, i left and told my family i was going to
visit a friend, and rode around listening to the only two people in the world
who could cheer me up, a & e.  thanks for listening, just needed to get that
off my chest.

peace, love, & happy thanksgiving all,
misty

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there is actually a very good reason to why this happens, and we have touched
on this only a little.

there are 5 major labels left in the music industry, and they control 80% of
the music market. read that again, because that is a shocking statistic. these
companies are so big and so bloated, they need a tremendous amount of capital
to only open up the doors every day. it's a bad situation.

now, as you all know, the one hit wonders sell millions and millions of
records. this tallent is practically off the street, with little or no
development and obviously no long term investment, because that costs money.
this is basically the only way that the major record lables can stay afloat,
because they are too big to do anything else. it can nolonger be 'about the
music' in any real sense anymore, it has to be about the dead presidents. if
one of these companies goes belly up, we could have a major economic crisis on
our hands.

what the hell does that mean?!? basically, the greatful dead, ig, melissa
etheridge and probably sarah maclachlan would not have a chance in hell of
getting a major lable record deal today.

but, on a lighter note, because of this oligarchy, we are (thankfully) on the
verge of an indie revolution, thanks in no small part to the internet. the
internet will hopefully take away some of the control the big five has, as
well as re-destribute some of the wealth.

gosh, i could go on all day. e-mail me privatly for more of my assinine
opinions.

pp&p
meredith

havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com> wrote:
it's a marketing thing.  the major label machine runs on hyperbole and ton$
of ca$h.  and it's target audience is not hard core fans, but rather casual
record buyers who'll buy the next new thing they think is cool.  i'm
convinced that the majors generally prefer one hit wonders to serious
artists, because a) they're invariably hungry and naive, and b) the record
companies can maximize their profits while paying out little more than a
carrot on a stick.


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bonnie lacey wrote:

> this just struck me.  beck (an artist i love) is regaled for dissecting
> so many genres of music.  he's pop, he's rock, he's hip hop, he's
> country.  the business seems to love this about him and he has become
> very mainstream despite the fact that every album is a new beck.  now, i
> see the ig in this same exact position.  they cross all musical borders,
> continually reinvent themselves, and are nothing short of excellent, yet
> they get no recognition and noone seems to know what to do with them.
> this is so tedious to me.  is it a gender thing?  is it a gay thing?
> anybody have any deep thoughts on this?

well, a few things that pass through my head about this...

i've been not ignorant of beck, but haven't purchased any of his music
yet.  i have been quite seriously thinking about getting his newest cd,
though.  i think, in many respects, beck is one of the only truly fresh
things happening in music today.  yes, he's genre-busting, but he's
doing it largely with samples, and he's cross-breeding sound loops that
should never work together, but they do, largely due to his creativity.
that's a major difference between beck and ig -- beck is doing something
truly unique in today's music scene.  ig, well, they're a coffeehouse
folk duo who have had the opportunity to expand the coffeehouse into
what is nearly stadium rock material.

(please, no flames on that assessment.  i know what they're doing is
unique.  i often say that indigo girls songs form a large portion of the
scripture through which i look at life.  please, don't take any of this
as a slam against a+e...)

havanamoon wrote:

> it's a marketing thing.  the major label machine runs on hyperbole and ton$
> of ca$h.  and it's target audience is not hard core fans, but rather casual
> record buyers who'll buy the next new thing they think is cool.  i'm
> convinced that the majors generally prefer one hit wonders to serious
> artists, because a) they're invariably hungry and naive, and b) the record
> companies can maximize their profits while paying out little more than a
> carrot on a stick.

yes, our music market is driven largely by marketing.  which is one
reason why i feel it's important to support things like the mp3 movement
(the legit one, not the piracy), which seeks to circumvent the money
that big labels have to market material by simply producing quality
material.

but i'm not sure that beck can be classified as a one-hit-wonder...  i
completely agree that a lot of the music that is in the pop charts these
days, especially the manufactured boy groups, the pubescent grrl
singers, etc., is devoid of soul. however, beck has produced solid
albums quite consistently.  (i do have friends who own beck cds, so i've
at least given them a listen...)

> columbia/epic (sony), to their credit, has a history of sticking with their
> artists to a greater degree than most, but generally less is spent on
> promotion with each succeeding album.  when an artist's fan base ages to the
> point that they no longer buy records in the necessary quantities, the label
> may lose interest, as has happened with such legends as johnny cash and
> willie nelson, both of whom created superb albums on indie labels after
> being dumped by sony.

well, there were other lessons going on with both cash's and nelson's
life involved with those albums.  i think that quality material from an
artist comes more from personal insight than major label involvement.

> a much as we love amy and emily, i doubt that their likenesses on a cd cover
> is likely to cause very many pubescent boys to part with their allowances,
> and only 10% of the girls 8)

no, but then, ig's music isn't geared toward the majority of the
population.  lyrics that insist that you think?  harmonies that force
closer listening?   this isn't american bandstand material here.  this
is difficult territory, and most of the bands that spring to mind that
do this kind of thing have very hard-core followings and a surprise
charting hit now and then.  grateful dead...  jethro tull...  pearl
jam...  they all have their very devoted followers, who just can't
understand why the other 90% of the population doesn't "get it."
believe me -- i've been pushing ig on my friends for years, and for
most, it just don't stick.

> my point is that the girls have succeeded in reaching a level that is
> beyond, i'm sure, even the fondest expectations of their most ardent early
> supporters.  i am certain that they will eventually receive their just due
> in terms of recognition; there comes a point when even the myopic record
> industry simply has to sit up and take notice.  look at how long it took
> bonnie raitt......
>
> and she isn't gay....

neither were ig when they were starting out.  i mean, they were gay, but
they weren't known as lesbian rock goddesses or any such nonsense.
they've never liked that label, anyway.  their music speaks for itself,
and other than lamenting social injustice towards homosexuals, doesn't
have much to do with being gay.  i was shocked and a bit taken aback at
the phoenix show on 11/1, at how much that concert felt like a lesbian
political event.  not by any prompting of ig, not at all!  but the
fans!  my goodness!   boise was a real treat, because the crowd was so
mixed!

> i, for one, am exceedingly thankful that amy and emily have had the type of
> career that has allowed them room to grow within their music, the freedom to
> interact with fans at a grassroots level without becoming inaccessible media
> superstars, and the freedom to lend their occasional time and energies to
> other ventures and worthy causes.  in an era supposedly devoid of heroes,
> the indigo girls are my guiding light....

amen!

but it's not a marketing thing, or a gay thing, or a creative thing that
keeps ig from "breaking out"...  power of two is an excellent example --
big vh1 hit.  but consider, of 10 people who may have bought swamp
ophelia based on that song, how many of them do you think went back and
purchased any of their back catalog?  how many of them bought their next
cd?  i'd be surprised if even 1 or 2 out of 10 "discovered" ig through
any decent airplay or exposure.

for the modern pop music trained ear, ig is just too dense a text to
process.  they require effort on behalf of the listener.  not that this
is a bad thing -- i listen to steve reich, which takes a lot of effort.
but the modern attention span simply is geared too short for most people
to give ig the chance we all feel they deserve.

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you forgot to mention rush among those hard core followers bands. they
certainly are consistently better musicians than most of the ones you listed,
but then again, i am biased...you are right about dense materiel..fortunately
i was brought up on an eclectic music diet, from beethoven to pink floyd to
streisand to dvorak to led zeppelin..etc. etc.  i disagree that beck is
unique...he is good, but i think ig are better musicians and songwriters,
which should count for something
pax
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maybe it's time for another poll ;-) i have to admit
that i 'discovered' the indigo girls in the
traditional mass market way by seeing their galileo
video in mtv. i loved the album so much that i looked
for all their other cds. because of this intial
exposure i had this impression of them as being really
mainstream.

but when swamp ophelia came out and i had to stay up
all night watching vh1 to catch their new video, it
started to dawn on me ig were not being given air
time.

except for galileo i have basically never heard them
played on the radio waves on long island (excepting
the one hour lesbian radio hour from the local
university). and i never see their videos played on
mtv or vh1 unless the list has a special notice saying
when it will be played and i hunt it down.

of course, having admitted being wooed by ig through
their one time hit single, i also have to say that ig
led me other non mainstream music artists like dar
williams, disappear fear, dan bern, and ani difranco.

--- graham ames <mcgee@oregontrail.net> wrote:
> i'd be surprised if even 1 or 2 out of 10
> "discovered" ig through
> any decent airplay or exposure.

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does anyone know who's opening for ig in atlanta on dec. 16 at the tabernacle?
the mm schedule had her opening for them on the 17th but was wondering if anyone
knew about the 16th.

thanks,
sharon

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good day all,
does anyone know who's opening?  is there an opening act?
thanks,
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i just finished a *major* update to my ig page
<http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo/indigo.html>.  i've added dozens of
articles (and summaries in case you don't have time to read them all
:-)  ), new references, fan pages, multimedia links, and a "friends of"
section which lists artists and places associated with the girls.  please
have a look, and let me know if you have any comments or suggestions.

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hello everyone,

i'm sorry for any inconvenience i may have caused you all, my webtv
service was cancelled
without my knowledge.  it's a loooooooong
story.

if i had known i was being cancelled sooner
than i thought, i would have  "unsubscribed"
so that you wouldn't have any of those  awful
"your message was not received by barb bordner, her mailbox is full"
messages.

i hope your thanksgiving was a very happy one
for those who are celebrating it.

peace,

barb  bordner

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i knw this is late, but i'm looking for tickets to the ig minneapolis
show.  one of you contacted me when i advertised my need a couple weeks
ago before my service was shut off,  and  webtv  has not given me back
all my emails.   so whoever you are out there, please contact me again.
i was looking for something
of  the same price quality as 32.50  but not quite that much.  someone
offerred me  one for 20.00.  and then i got shut off by web tv.

if that person  who originally contacted me still has the ticket, i hope
you know who you are, please contact me.  if anyone  else has a ticket
left, please contact me.  ticketmaster has only one ticket left and i
can't get to one tonight, i'm
afraid tickets will be sold out by the time i get there tomorrow.

thanks for your understanding.

peace

barb

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anyone know if the girls are to be interviewed
in minneapolis or st. paul before their saturday, dec. 4th show?  any ig
activities before the show that
day?  pease i'm dying to hear all about it.

peace

barb

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boy either the list is really quite tonight or my
email service isn't working.  what's up people?
anyone?

barb

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we're all in turkey coma...

> -----original message-----
> boy either the list is really quite tonight or my
> email service isn't working.  what's up people?
> anyone?

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this was exactly how i found the girls...it was during the summer after my
freshman year in college - 92 - back when mtv played videos - when i fell in
love with galileo and tori's crucify....
:)lisa

<< i have to admit
that i 'discovered' the indigo girls in the
traditional mass market way by seeing their galileo
video in mtv. i loved the album so much that i looked
for all their other cds. because of this intial
exposure i had this impression of them as being really
mainstream. >>

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hmmm... i've never even seen an ig music video... and i've gone through
periods of watching lots of mtv and/or vh1...

i discovered ig in high school, though i'd heard some of their songs before,
i'm sure...  there were 2 girls in the class ahead of me that performed at
most assemblies and any talent-show type of stuff... except for their senior
talent show, when they did an original song, they always played ig material...
and i really really liked it.... then one of my friends had so, which i
listened to and loved... then sots came out and i bought it... from that pt on
i was totally hooked...

and i have also been introduced to other great out-of-the-mainstream groups
because of liking ig... and this list.  =)

shannon


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>this was exactly how i found the girls...it was during the summer after my
>freshman year in college - 92 - back when mtv played videos - when i fell in
>love with galileo and tori's crucify....
>:)lisa
>

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okay, it seems that no one is interested in paying $43.50 for a ticket to
see ig in milwaukee on december 8th.  what are you willing to pay?  this is
an 8th row seat.  not bad.  i'd hate to see it sit empty.  make me an offer.


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  back in high school, fall of 1992 to be exact.  a friend of mine tom,
who played guitar and piano made a tape for me.  it included a pluthera
of artists.  including james, belly, tori amos, they might be giants,
the breeders and my beloved ig...the three songs that he included in
this very order were
            1) romeo & juliet
            2) three hits
            3) galileo
hearing romeo and juliet first may very well be how my love for amy ray
started so quickly...well i didn't buy any cds for a long time. sophmore
year of high school clothes were a little more important(ha ha ha)  but
later while living in georgia (my junior and senior years of hs)  i
bought indgo girls self-titled and followed shortly with sots.  now i
have discovered who i  am as a person, and what is important to me.
thanks a million to tom who if not for him i don't know where i would
be...what a great friend...
peace & love,
       carrie

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from atlanta's _creative loafing_
(nov. 24)
atlanta musicians are looking to honor one of their own with songs for
benjamin, a compilation project featuring artists enriched by a relationship
with smoke's performance artist benjamin, who died about a year ago.  local
aritists kelly hogan and the rock*a*teens, as well as nationally known
r.e.m., the indigo girls and patti smith, are one the guest list for the
event benefit nov. 26-27 to raise money to manufacture and distribute the
compact disc.  _songs for benjamin_ will feature original tunes and a
sophomore effort, _songs by benjamin_, will feature covers of benjamin's
songs.  live entertainment will include cat power, hubcap city and chris
lopez (of rock*a*teens) nov. 26; and hustler white, stella zine (of pagen
holliday) and black mollies nov. 27.  doors open after 9pm.  the earl, 488
flat shoals ave.  for information, call 404-522-3950.

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date:         sat, 27 nov 1999 11:15:29 -0600
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hey my service was shut off sooner thani thouht,  i can't get webtv to
transfer my
emails,  so i need to have my list for christmas card exchange program
emailed to me again.
all my emails basically no longer exist!  :-(
i'm not too thrilled with webtv right now.

to those who are not erin,  sorry for the intrusion, but it's the only
way i know of to contact erin..

thanks

barb

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date:         sat, 27 nov 1999 12:36:49 -0500
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can someone please tape this???
date: sun, 12 dec 1999 20:47:01 +0000
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or at least the cat power set???

mike r.

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looking for a ticket to the ig show in mpls $.33..50 plus ticketmaster
surcharge is way out of my league. so somebody please make me an offer.
(idon't care how much other artists are chargig. the fact is last year i
got n to see the girls for about 25.00, which is about right.
and i'm sorry that thy keep getting more and
m ore expensive..  if this is the way the industry is handling the
girls, fom now on....well i can go anywhere to get good music, for
free..  i like that about the twin cities.  i'm looking for a good seat
at the northrup show, hmmmm, maybe a balcony.

like i said earlier, please make me an offer. i can't
refuse.

barb

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they don't have to be balcony seats, but  at least be $33.50 type of
seat for not as much.
if you know what i mean?

thanks

barb

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hey, i gotta question... please email me.

jude :)

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to all those who sent window cling $. clings will be sent out within the
week's end.

please forgive me, i'm suffering from a broken heart (and a slow school
postal service)

indigo salvation,

lyndsay

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anyone want to meet up at the long beach tori concert tomorrow? i will be
there with my friend jenn wearing my indigo girls sweatshirt...
vesper

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hey all--
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article from december 1999 issue of diva.

social life

musician and activist emily saliers of the indigo girls discusses the band's
new album, abolishing the death penalty, and the plight of gay youth with
bradley david

life on the road never gets old for emily saliers. "i do enjoy it," says the
strawberry-blond half of the now-legendary folk rock duo known as the indigo
girls. "usually we play a show and then we get on the bus. the band and amy
[ray, her brunette counterpart] and i get along really well, so we either
play scrabble together or we listen to cd's or we just chit-chat or watch a
movie. then we usually arrive in the next city in the middle of the night
and we get out and go to the hotel. bus life is like a little cocoon - it's
like having a little family."

the lesbian favourites are currently touring the us in support of their new
record, come on now social, which has been lauded by critics as edgier and
more rock-oriented than their seven previous albums.

"i don't see it as a vast departure, but i can see how people think it's a
little more rocking," says saliers. "it's got more electric guitar on it
overall than the past records, but it also has a couple of songs that are
appalachian in vibe, it's got some celtic to it, it's got a couple of
straight-up ballads and some mid-tempo love songs, so i think it's pretty
diverse."

saliers and ray released their first album in 1987, while they were still
students at emory university. the two had been friends, growing up together
in atlanta, since the ages of nine and ten (saliers is now 36 and ray is
35), and began performing together in high school. just out of college, they
signed with epic records. in 1989, their major label debut, indigo girls
(featuring their biggest hit to date, closer to fine) went double platinum
and earned them the grammy award for best contemporary folk group.

while the indigos always had a major lesbian following, emily was a little
slower than amy in publicly coming out.

"early on, i just had some fears," she explains, "i just didn't want us to
be thought of as a "gay-band" and didn't want to be held back. i was younger
then and it was just adolescent fear."

in 1993, they appeared at the march on washington, performing a haunting a
cappella version of the simon and garfunkel classic american tune.

"i remember walking up that scaffold [to the stage] thinking i was about to
throw up because i was so nervous," says saliers. "then i remember the power
of that gathering of people - it was very moving. i remember being honored
that we were asked to perform there, and i remember being completely
empowered by the experience and just wanting to get back and be a gay rights
activist as much as possible."

part of that activism has been working with gay youth. in the liner notes of
the new album is a list of the indigos' favorite organisations, including
youth pride, an atlanta-based support group for gay and lesbian teens.

"yeah, youth pride is a great group, "says saliers. "you know, so many young
gay people feel so isolated and hopeless and they're tormented and beaten
up. so youth pride is really important for young gay people and for other
people to understand what young gay people go through."

the indigo girls contributed a track for a record benefiting the group, and
distribute their literature at concerts.

"we have a resource table at our shows every night, and groups can come and
present their literature," she explains. "they can have a representative
from their group there, so that people milling around the lobby can get to
know some of these groups."

last year, the indigos found themselves in the middle of a controversy when
several scheduled high school appearances in south carolina were cancelled
because of a few homophobic parents.

"what happened was, we set up a whole string of high school shows that were
all free, and we were just going to go in and play and do a
question-and-answer session about music and the music business," she says.
"it was supposed to be just encouragement for the arts, because so much of
the arts funding had been cut in high schools."

at the first show, amy used the f word, as it is written in her song shame
on you.

"a few parents found out that we were coming to their [kids'] high school
and, because we're gay, objected to us playing, and then the principal tried
to use the fact that amy had used profanity as the reason why the show was
being cancelled, when in fact it was pure homophobia, "she says.

in a domino effect, almost all of the high schools cancelled their
appearances. but that didn't stop emily and amy.

"what we did was, we just went into the towns and booked small venues and
all the kids who wanted to come to the show got to see us anyhow, " she
says. "there was a press conference, and none of the parents who opposed us
being there came to have a dialogue about it. we invited the dialogue and it
never happened. it was just amazing how a very few bigoted people could
derail something that was meant with the purest of intentions."

saliers says she and ray were political even before they were musicians.

"i come from a political family," she says. "i was born in connecticut - my
dad was a professor at yale - and there was a lot of political activity
surrounding the war and the civil rights movement and my parents were good
liberals. as soon as amy and i were playing together, we were doing benefits
for greenpeace and community shelters and things like that. even if we
weren't in music, we would be activists. this was just a way for us to use
our vocations to give back. it's just a natural thing - it's no big deal."

one of their many causes is abolishing the death penalty. the final track of
the new album is a song ray wrote about karla faye tucker, who on 3
february, 1998 became the first woman to be executed by the state of texas
since the civil war.

"i think amy was just particularly struck by how everybody used [tucker] as
a pawn in the battle for their cause," she says. "you had the church,
because [tucker] became a born-again christian, you had anti-death penalty
people, you had pro-death penalty people, and of course the involvement of
[texas governor] george w. bush, who i'm not a big fan of - he's anti-gay
anyway. so there was just this whole furore and here's a woman's life that's
caught in the midst of all that. the song is about what it all means and how
in the end we couldn't just overcome being cruel."

saliers says people still mistakenly assume that she and amy are
girlfriends, "even though we've done a million interviews explaining how we
never have been and never will be."

the two are currently in relationships, but saliers says their girlfriends
don't travel much with them on tour. "they have their own lives," she says.

asked if the indigo girls will still be satisfying their loyal audiences
twenty years from now, saliers is taken aback. "i hope i'm still alive in
twenty years," she jokes. "no, amy and i will still be friends and we'll
probably still be doing something together. i think we're just bound for
life."

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hey!

i have a question.  i am working on this hiroshima mix tape (well, technically it is not a tape, it is a md, but whatever...).  i am putting songs on that deal with anti-war themes,  anti violence themes, and (even better) anti-nuclear themes.  i would like some more suggestions.  so far i have (not in order)

dar williams- the great unknown
ig- let it be me
ig- you and me of the 10,000 wars
phil ochs- i ain't marching anymore
joni mitchell- no apologizes
ani difranco- to the teeth
carrie newcomer- playing with matches
u2- sunday bloody sunday
u2- bullett in the blue sky
ig- soon be to nothing (i know it doesn't fit in with the rest, but that song has personal connections with my first trip to hiroshima for me)

if you have any other suggestions, please let me know via private mail!

thanks in advance!

:-) karen

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if you can get maine public radio - the indigo girls are on today - if you
only get weekend world cafe, they may be on where you live..or on the web,
but mpbn is not webcast 8^(


oh - for the baigls - tori is b'casting a concert next week from the avalon,
on wfnx , for everyone else - it's being webcasted!

ig tonight on a webcast!@ liveconcerts.com...

peace-
mike r.

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> i am putting songs on that deal . . .  anti-nuclear themes
> >

check out this benefit album:  "no nukes" - muse - musicians united for
safe energy.
this recording is from a 2 night benefit done at in ny a few years back
(madison square garden?  maybe 20 years?  25 years ago?) in an attempt
to raise awareness of nuclear energy and its dangers (not to mention
raising money to fight against the building of nuclear facilities and
those plants already in existence).  some of the contributors are bruce
springsteen, bonnie raitt, john hall, tom petty, one of my favorite
artists, *jackson browne*, james taylor, carly simon, sweet honey in the
rock, graham nash, nicolette larson, and others.  listen to "power" by
john hall, and you gotta hear jackson browne's "before the deluge" -
that, in my opinion, is the *definitive* anti-nuke, pro-ecology,
anti-big, greedy, earth destroying big business, pro-environment,
anti-everything bad in the world song.

elaine - showing her age by admitting that she has a copy of this album
        on vinyl!

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date:         mon, 29 nov 1999 10:52:36 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject:      fw: chicago tickets for sale
x-to:         ig-news@smoe.org
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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the news list - please direct any
responses to the original poster at
pugnut@bitwisesystems.com, not to me.

-sherlyn

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from: treehugger <kalfametrosnokaspam@juno.com.invalid>
subject: chicago tickets for sale
date: sat, 27 nov 1999 17:01:47 -0800

i have a pair of indigo girls december 5 chicago tickets for sale.

my cost: $87
your cost: $50
section: mnfl3l (amy side)
row: c
seats: 305 and 307 (right off the inside isle)

email me directly at pugnut@bitwisesystems.com

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