lifeblood: listlogs: 1999-12a


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date:         tue, 30 nov 1999 16:10:48 -0800
reply-to:     larissa brown <larissa.brown@eng.sun.com>
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subject:      re: dar song and i'm confused....
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hmm... the great unknown is definitely about dar's own activist experiences at
the nevada test site (i heard her talk about this song)....

i wonder if the song is on her "all my heroes are dead" first release? i don't
have that.

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>ok to me this sounds like the great unknown - "cross the line you'll get
>arrested" but i really don't know...i'll have to think about it :)
>
><< interesting side story:  my acquaintance kate, arrested student #3, comes
> > >from a long line of uppity folks.  her father and uncle were arrested and
> > >imprisoned for burning draft files during vietnam, i believe.  dar
>williams
> > >actually wrote a song about it (i'm not a dar-phile, so i can't tell you
> > >which song, but if you know, do tell). >>
>
>also, carrie has got me completely confused...are there really two episodes
>of hard rock live from vh1??? if there are then i'm afraid i have completely
>fucked up....i offered to tape hrl for people but the only one i have (and
>the only one i've been taping) is the 97 performance...so basically if i made
>you tape and you were expecting a different episode of hrl - e-mail me and we
>can work something out.
>
>:( lisa
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date:         tue, 30 nov 1999 17:12:38 -0800
reply-to:     laurel decou <indibabe2@yahoo.com>
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subject:      private show in atlanta?
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ok, this could entirely be a rumor, but i heard that
ig would be playing a small private show at the
tabernacle for about 45 people.  does anyone have any
info about this?
thanks!
laurel
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date:         tue, 30 nov 1999 20:13:37 est
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subject:      ligc what other artists are worth listening to?
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hi list:
the holiday season is coming up, and i need to get myself some new cds.
i'm a huge fan of ig, and especially amy ray's harder edged stuff.
i have almost worn out my michelle malone 'beneath the devil moon' cd, and
also wish that team dresch would get back together.
recommend me some other female hard-rockin' bands/artists, why don't ya? (:
also, nigc but adc, i've had "to the teeth" for about a week
now...and....hmm, it just isn't growing on me.  i like the lyrics to many of
the songs......but something's just off on this album.  just my opinion for
those ani difranco fans out there.
-mel
ps: people with chicago ig tickets....argh...wish i hadn't bought my crummy
balcony tix weeks ago...

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 01:23:20 +0000
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from:         kristen curry <kz123@att.net>
subject:      re: scooter boys

funny thing... this expression always reminds me
of the sinead o'conner song with the lyric about
cops shooting "black boys on mopeds".

i think that song is called "margaret thatcher"
but don't quote me on that.

kc
> okay, maybe this was discussed earlier and i missed it.  what exactly is a
> scooter boy?
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date:         tue, 30 nov 1999 21:49:33 est
reply-to:     shannon mast <shannonmast@hotmail.com>
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i don't know why this just occurred to me, but my ex-fiance did his basic
training at fort benning. when i broke up with him, he'd been back for about
six months and was just a completely different person from the person i'd
fallen in love with. i guess it's no mystery now that i know what he was
exposed to.

anyway...

hope y'all are having a lovely evening!

shannon

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date:         tue, 30 nov 1999 23:14:59 est
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subject:      re: other artists worth listening to...ligc
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hello, all...

just thought that i would add my two cents about other "not-to-be-missed"
artists...you should check out sister 7 if you have not already.  they are an
austin-based band, and believe me, they know how to rock the funk out!  (no
pun intended...)  the only female in the group is the lead singer, but they
performed at the lilith fair in oklahoma city with the girls, and patrice -
the lead singer - got to sing with amy and emily!!!  (all of my friends got
to go and hang out back stage...i had to work.  who said life was fair?)
their most recent cd was called "this the trip," and they are releasing a new
cd in february.  they tour all over the country, so if they happen to be in
your neck of the woods, check them out...i have seen them hundreds of times,
and have spent the last 4 new year's eves with them.  patrice also performs
solo shows, so in one little package you get the rock/funk, and the acoustic
ballads that are reminiscent of amy and emily.  let me know if you have
trouble finding their stuff...i'll see what i can do.  (i also have a great
live cd of theirs that is no longer available...way too much fun!)  hope this
helps!

also, i am so sorry that it has taken me so long to get the information back
to those of you who wanted to read my thesis...i am in the process of moving,
so please bear with me.  (i can't find things in boxes or on my hard drive!)
i will let you all know as soon as possible where you can read it, or i will
send it to you individually.

that's all for now...

take care-
the formerly austin, now dallas jill

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date:         tue, 30 nov 1999 23:32:19 est
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subject:      nigc- melissa ferrick
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hello all!  sorry to give you the nigc but:

just wanted everyone to know in advance this time that melissa ferrick is
playing saturday night (this comin saturday, the 4th) at the bitter end on
bleecker st in greenwich village, ny  she should be playing from aboutb 8-10
or so.  i'm sure it will be a kick ass show, as usual so come down and
support her!  for those of you whod aren't familiar with her music, try to
check her out.  she's fantastic!

now for the igc...you wait long enough and you do hear the girls on the radio
:)  i listened to some instrumental stuff on the way home from work on wfuv
because all of the other crap was awful.  i would have turned it of after
emmy lou harris finished but i kept it on.  fate.  must have been.  peace
tonight came on!!!!! :)
ok, happy wednesday,
carrie

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date:         tue, 30 nov 1999 23:55:19 est
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hey all.  i know sometimes folks like to send out e-"greeting" cards.  i just
found a pretty neat site where you can do so while sending out a dedication
song.. it has about 30 or 40 ig songs to choose from... i didnt check on
other artists but you will prob. have good luck since they had such a
selection for ig!  anyways, happy dedicating.. (http://www.ededication.com/)

peace-
trooper
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anyone care to recommend their favorite mary chapin carpenter album? :)
"i've got my books and my poetry to protect me..." ~paul simon

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 00:03:05 est
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in a message dated 11/30/99 10:56:39 pm central standard time,
gitroop@aol.com writes:

> anyone care to recommend their favorite mary chapin carpenter album? :)

yeah, i like shooting straight in the dark.

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 01:29:32 est
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in a message dated 11/30/1999 5:23:52 pm pacific standard time, kz123@att.net
writes:

> funny thing... this expression always reminds me
>  of the sinead o'conner song with the lyric about
>  cops shooting "black boys on mopeds".
>
>  i think that song is called "margaret thatcher"
>  but don't quote me on that.

ahhh...that's such a gorgeous song.  actually, it's just called "black boys
on mopeds," but margaret thatcher is mentioned in the lyrics. :)

mis

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 01:55:42 est
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in a message dated 12/1/99 1:31:50 am eastern standard time,
arrowofartemis@aol.com writes:

<< ahhh...that's such a gorgeous song.  actually, it's just called "black boys
on mopeds," but margaret thatcher is mentioned in the lyrics. :) >>

absolutely beuatiful, thanks for reminding me!

maggie is also mentioned in elvis costello's "tramp the dirt down."

"when england was the whore of the world, and margaret was her madame..."

pretty powerful stuff.

pax (thanks emily),

vicki

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 07:12:37 -0500
reply-to:     elaine bean <efbean@erols.com>
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> << ahhh...that's such a gorgeous song.  actually, it's just called "black boys
>  on mopeds," but margaret thatcher is mentioned in the lyrics. :) >>
>

yes it is a beutiful song.  one of sinead's best, i think.  this great
band, the nields, do a beautiful version.  the nields are 2 sisters,
both married to 2 of the other band members (both named dave) - a fifth
member, another dave, is not married.  anyway, their harmonies are
georgeous, and they rock - very large amounts of talent in this band.
check them out.  their voices are georgeous.  they have a few albums out
- my favorites are "gotta get over greta" and "bob on the ceiling"

elaine

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 08:38:05 -0500
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well the girls are on come on come on...along with shawn colvin...you
can relly hear some great harmonies from amy...but then when can't you?!
but i really like party doll and other favorites... lots of live stuff,
along with a french verse to down at the twist and shout...
peace and love,
      carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 09:06:48 -0500
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arghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!  this is why i so desperately want to move back down
to ga.  atlanta in particular...i miss the south....
arrggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!  lol i'm okay really
peace and love,
       carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 09:37:11 -0500
reply-to:     catherine spinale <catherine.spinale@pmn.com>
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hi everyone:

i hope y'all had a really nice holiday.  mine was very good. i had it at my
house, but my mom and my mother-in-law did all the cooking (how lucky is that),
which is a good thing
because i'm not a really good cook.

the only thing i was a little nervous about is that i had to tell my
mother-in-law i was going to atlanta alone - without her son. we never told her
because she's very old fashioned
and worries alot.  she took it ok but now she thinks i'm  totally obsessed with
the girls - which is probably true - but my mom thinks its great for me to go
off on my own and have a little independence (i love my mom).  my mom, on the
other hand, is also a big worrier and didn't want me staying at the days inn and
walking 3 blocks alone, so she convinced me to cancel and stay at the omni hotel
@ cnn center which is across the street. (if anyone is going and looking for a
room, their holiday rate is $109 - not cheap but it could be worse).

i know it's still 2 weeks away, but i was thinking that maybe we could have a
list meet
at one of the lounges in the omni after the show on thursday or friday.  just a
suggestion.
if anyone going wants to e-mail me privately with suggestions (since i know -0-
about atlanta)
that would be great.

see ya
cathy

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 15:32:03 gmt
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hey all--anyone interested in a listmeet before/after the chicago theater
show on sunday (or the michelle malone show on saturday)?

e-mail me off the list to let me know.

take care,
shel

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i think we should have a list meet.  i don't know where or when but heather
and i are planning on being there for both shows at least on those dates if
not for both shows (depending on her exam schedule -- pray for it to be
bumped up earlier!)  lets get this going

nan

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 16:58:15 +0100
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i can't believe it took me this long to post it...

on saturday, a listmate came to visit me (i've known her otherwise for
about 3 years - hi jamie!!!!) and not only did we bond over watershed the
one afternoon, but the night before, coming back from dancing/the bar, we
were listening to cons and without knowing the other was going to do it,
when amy sang "raise your hands" we both did it *heh* and then laughed
about it.

oh the power of the girls :)

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a couple from the dark recesses...

what have they done to the dain - malvina reynolds  (joan baez cover
version)
eve of destruction - p.f. sloan  (barry mcguire cover version)
masters of war - bob dylan  (eddie vedder/michael mcready cover version)
with god on our side - bob dylan  (neville brothers cover version)
a hard rain's gonna fall - bob dylan
draft morning - the byrds
crusader - the hollies
silent night/7 o'clock news - simon & garfunkel

peace,
tim

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 10:07:43 -0500
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subject:      re: [nigc. soa protest article]

basic training is a slightly more deadly variant of junior high school
(although the gap has apparently narrowed in the past year) - same
attitudes, same 'king of the mountain' social order, same acting out of
aggressive fantasies....

boys will be boys....

peace,
tim

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date: tuesday, november 30, 1999 9:57 pm
subject: re: [nigc. soa protest article]


>i don't know why this just occurred to me, but my ex-fiance did his basic
>training at fort benning. when i broke up with him, he'd been back for
about
>six months and was just a completely different person from the person i'd
>fallen in love with. i guess it's no mystery now that i know what he was
>exposed to.
>
>anyway...
>
>hope y'all are having a lovely evening!
>
>shannon
>
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here is the url for the ig article that is up at sonicnet:

http://www.sonicnet.com/news/archive/story.jhtml?id=520324

i'd post the whole article, but it is better for future coverage of ig if the
story about them gets a lot of hits.

lots of stuff in my notebook that i didnt have room for. one day i'll post
the outtakes, as it were

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 12:11:15 est
reply-to:     shannon mast <shannonmast@hotmail.com>
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i totally agree. i don't want to run this basic training thing into the
ground, but have y'all ever watched the videos that the camps put together
for the privates of their basic training experiences? first of all, i think
it's sick that they'd even film something like that, but the thing that
baffled me the most is that the people who go through it (ie: my
then-fiance) seem to think that all the sh@# they go through is cool. like
going inside a cabin with cs gas and being forced to not only take off their
gas masks but sing and recite abcs and come out hacking and puking. he
thought it was cool!

yikes... definitely a 7th grade mentality. i'm not intending any disrespect
to our country or anything, but this is ridiculous--how can this be
necessary?

shannon


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basic training is a slightly more deadly variant of junior high school
(although the gap has apparently narrowed in the past year) - same
attitudes, same 'king of the mountain' social order, same acting out of
aggressive fantasies....

boys will be boys....

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 09:12:35 pst
reply-to:     julie libes <mememi@excite.com>
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from:         julie libes <mememi@excite.com>
subject:      napster -- indigo mp3s!!!!!
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if you do not yet have the mp3 service napster, i highly suggest you go get
it.  go to <www.napster.com>, download the application, email me if
neccessary i will walk you through it.  then, you go on it and download
mp3s.  make sure you first have an mp3 player.  (winamp for windows,
realyplayer for macs.) napster can play them without a player, by the way.
(laurel, have you tried playing them from within napster?  i can explain
how.)

all of those who already are on napster, you go  on and set it to line speed
must be "equal to" "t1". then type in indigo girls.  look for my computer
screenname (indigonut).  if you don't see me, look for such artists as
nirvana, garbage, bush, nine inch nails, rage against the machine, matrix,
tori amos "smells like teen spirit".  keep the line speed set to equal to
t1. if no luck, keep trying back.  maybe i'm not on.  (i usually get online
late evenings.) once you see indigonut in the right column offerring
anything, click on the line and instead of downloading the song clivk "add
selected computer to hot list".  they will show you all of the mp3s i have
and you will be able to check every time i am online.  you will also be able
to easily locate and download all that i have to offer (which includes some
ten to fifteen pre-epic indigo songs).  i really want to share these with
other indigo fans.  i have not had even one of them dowloaded from me yet.
don't let them just sit here, come and get them!

good luck and if you are confused, email me or im me.
julie ;-)

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 09:28:39 pst
reply-to:     julie libes <mememi@excite.com>
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i'm feeling stupid.  got an easier way for you to get all my songs. get
online on napster, click on "hot list" then click on "add computer" in the
lower lefthand corner.  the type in "indigonut" and you're set.  i'm so
silly.

julie ;-)

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margaret thatcher is also mentioned more than once by roger waters in pink
floyd the final cut....

------------------------------------

set your site up in the headlight
the moon won't be enough
light the embers of another
and the night won't seem so rough
sister...

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 10:05:55 pst
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hey y'all,

i posted a while ago about napster . . . and several people wrote back with
their screen names on napster and everything and i was a schmuck and didn't
respond immediately and now all my emails have been lost.  soooo, for anyone
out there who wrote to me about napster, or just plain anyone out there on
napster, my screen name is tayray23.  i haven't really built up my ig mp3
folder, but i have some goodies like the butchies and some daemon stuff.
alright, that's it.

~tay

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 13:35:25 -0500
reply-to:     havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com>
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from:         havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com>
subject:      last sunday's nietzsche's show - sarah p. in buffalo
x-cc:         pamela ryder <lalaryde@aol.com>,
              sarah santoro <chickie-isis23@webtv.net>,
              aerin tedesco <sabedecoy@aol.com>

hey, y'all....

just wanted to make a brief mention of last sunday's gig.  ig listee sarah
pinsker has recently been opening for disappear fear in various east coast
venues, and is on the verge of recording her first cd.  when she posted that
she was going to be in toronto over thanksgiving weekend, i inquired as to
whether she might be able to stop by nietzsche's for a sunday evening show
on her way home.  to my surprise and delight, she said 'yes.'

my sunday night shows are typically somewhat casual affairs, focusing more
on music and friendships than on hype.  i play as much or as little as
necessary, usually playing a short opening set and a long closing set at the
end of the night, and adding guitar or harmonica accompaniment as needed
during my friends' sets.

after sound check, i asked sarah if she'd like to jam while waiting for the
others to arrive, and to my delight, she answered in the affirmative.  we
started out with southern man (sarah on vocals and rhythm guitar, me on
lead), then down by the river (myself on lead vocal, sarah on harmony, both
of us alternating between lead and rhythm guitar), joking (sarah), all along
the watchtower (me) and one other whose title escapes me.  it was a lot of
fun, and well-received by an appreciative audience.

aerin tedesco opened the *formal* portion of the show with a selection of
songs from her forthcoming cd, angels and allegories, captivating the crowd
with her voice and tenor guitar accompaniment.  aerin's cd release party
will take place on wednesday, dec 15 at nietzsche's (www.nietzsches.com).

leah prentiss followed with a set of her sweet-sounding songs of love and
relationships.  leah has a gift for creating melodies and hook lines that
resonate long after the song is over.  leah and i will be at the new coffee
bean cafe in buffalo this coming saturday, dec 4 at 9pm.

sarah followed with a varied set of her own original material, mixing
serious songs with somewhat more lighthearted material, all warmly received
by those in attendance.  she added more than a few names to her mailing list
that night, i'm sure.

pamela ryder premiered four new songs that she had written while
recuperating from an unfortunate rollerblading accident.  she literally held
the house spellbound with the mounting intensity of each performance.
pamela and i will be sharing a sunday night gig at nietzsche's on dec 19.

i finidhed the night with an eclectic set that included disparate covers of
howlin' wolf's little red rooster and joni mitchell's urge for going, plus a
number of original songs including a new one called symphony of tears that
was actually inspired by various posts to the ig list.  it actually started
out as two separate songs, one an answer song to hatemongers like fred
phelps and the other a gentle ballad of reassurance based on an email
exchange with a friend who is going through the trauma and elation of the
coming out experience.  i was very gratified at the warm response....

it was another memorable night.

thanks to sarah, aerin, leah, and pamela, and to the indigo girls and the
members of this least for being a constant source of inspiration.

peace,
tim

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 14:18:33 -0500
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from:         nancy lambert <nlambert@inter-science.com>
subject:      re: ig article up at sonicnet
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good article -- glad to see more indepth stuff than just another bit on how
different this album is from the others.  its nice to know some of the
artistic motivation behind the music.  look forward to readint the outtakes.


nan

> -----original message-----
> from: lisalisaa@aol.com [mailto:lisalisaa@aol.com]
> sent: wednesday, december 01, 1999 10:35 am
> to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject: ig article up at sonicnet
>
>
> here is the url for the ig article that is up at sonicnet:
>
> http://www.sonicnet.com/news/archive/story.jhtml?id=520324
>
> i'd post the whole article, but it is better for future
> coverage of ig if the
> story about them gets a lot of hits.
>
> lots of stuff in my notebook that i didnt have room for. one
> day i'll post
> the outtakes, as it were
>
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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 11:39:47 -0800
reply-to:     hawke2@email.msn.com
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from:         ryan blackhawke <hawke2@email.msn.com>
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i'm busy watching my city being ruined by looters last night and the
gestapo-police today. what's up with everyone else?

ryan blackhawke
owner - fremont hemp co
(888) 956-hemp
http://www.fremonthemp.com

> -----original message-----
> from: indigo girls mailing list [mailto:indigo-girls@netspace.org]on
> behalf of carrie knepp

>   where is everyone?  does the cat have y'all's toungues?  this is the
> most quiet that i have ever seen this list...we couldn't have runout of
> stuff to talk about....  hellllllloooooo out there..

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for people coming to the chicago theatre show, wxrt will be collecting
unwrapped, new toys and books before the show to give to children in local
hospitals.

peace,
shel

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still looking for tickets, name your price.

peace,

barb

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 15:06:29 -0500
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on wed, 1 dec 1999, ryan blackhawke wrote:

> i'm busy watching my city being ruined by looters last night and the
> gestapo-police today. what's up with everyone else?

   you've just been having a great year for crazy stuff, haven't ya?

   darius

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 16:00:56 -0500
reply-to:     "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com>
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>>"ray said she has worked hard to turn her writer's eye outward.
"it's been so important for me to move beyond introversion and melodrama,''
she said. "i don't want to write another song about unrequited love and
frame it like another love song. i want to use unique images and frame
things using the politics and everything else i see happening around me."<<
reading this on sonicnet, it is finally clear to me now why i don't like the
newer ig stuff as much as the older ig stuff.  i think their looking outward
makes the songs less appealing to me.  maybe i'm just immature. (well.... i
know i'm immature...) but you know, those old songs touched me, made me
emotional, made me feel things because i could *so* identify with the things
they talked about, and on a personal level.  having such universal themes in
lyrics is what i think pulled me towards them to begin with, and well, i
just don't get that with faye tucker and andy.  not that i don't like the
songs and all, because i do, and i get all riled up at the concerts and jump
around and sing to the new stuff, and feel inspired to get involved when amy
sings 'go' and i'm mad at the world when emily sings 'trouble', but you
know, i just don't get that overwhelming "oh, god, yes, someone understands
what i'm going through" kind of connected emotional, personal feeling
anymore.  i miss that.
anyone else?
-tara

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 16:11:52 est
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just wanted to second this....the nields totally rock :) lisa
<< this great
band, the nields, do a beautiful version.  >>

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in a message dated wed, 1 dec 1999  4:03:05 pm eastern standard time, "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com> writes:

> but you
> know, i just don't get that overwhelming "oh, god, > yes, someone understands
> what i'm going through" kind of connected emotional, > personal feeling
> anymore.  i miss that.
> anyone else?

yes, exactly!  i can like just about any song with a good beat.  i love cons. the music is great.  some of the lyrics are cool.  but can i emotionally feel a sense of connectedness to it as most people would on a universal level?  no, not really.  soon be to nothing is an awesome song because it touches on that.  to me, the second verse somewhat is weak in "touch" effect, but overall, it's a song that can make you feel.  are there any other songs on there that mean so much to the emotionally music-inspired people?  not in my opinion.  you know, there are just some songs that burn you down with universal emotional appeal - "ghost" is one.  that song can cut right thru you, as well as "blood and fire" and "you left it up to me," for example.

i agree with you, tara, that while the newer stuff is somewhat avante-gard in it's approach to the present music world, it loses the emotional depth that was internal and integral in the earlier ig songs.  to me, the earlier ig songs were like public raw emotion.  in the newer stuff, the emotion is hiding - like it's afraid to come out and touch.

amanda

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 13:14:18 pst
reply-to:     julie libes <mememi@excite.com>
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i just had a brilliant idea! (see what happens when trying to procrastinate
twelve page papers?) how about everybody here that is on napster emails me
so that i can add all of you to my computer list.  i will also share your
napster screenname with everyone else who emails me with this info, so we
can have a list network sharing thing going on!  we can download indigo
stuff from eachother, i just acqired some dar williams stuff and am about to
burn my cooper seay and rose polenzani cds. email me privately and i will
share your screenname with everyone else that emails me with their
screenname.

julie (napster screenname "indigonut")

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on      wed, 1 dec 1999 10:05:55 pst, taylor martin (tayray23@texas.net) wrote:

> hey y'all,
>
> i posted a while ago about napster . . . and several people wrote back
with
> their screen names on napster and everything and i was a schmuck and
didn't
> respond immediately and now all my emails have been lost.  soooo, for
anyone
> out there who wrote to me about napster, or just plain anyone out there
on
> napster, my screen name is tayray23.  i haven't really built up my ig mp3
> folder, but i have some goodies like the butchies and some daemon stuff.
> alright, that's it.
>

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date:         wed, 1 dec 1999 15:41:32 -0600
reply-to:     sheryl jones <sjones@library.wisc.edu>
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from:         sheryl jones <sjones@library.wisc.edu>
organization: university of wisconsin - gls
subject:      email change
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we've undergone a major email overhaul at work.  my new email address is
sjones@library.wisc.edu.  things will be forwarded to me for a while.
i've resubscribed under the correct address.  just thought you'd all
like to know.  thanks!

------------------------------------------------------
sheryl jones
330 memorial library * 728 state street * madison wi  53706
phone: 608-262-6500 * fax: 608-265-2754 * email: sjones@library.wisc.edu
url: <http://www.geocities.com/felidae>

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from:         indigo mel <melijoy@aol.com>
subject:      nigc napster
date: sun, 12 dec 1999 20:48:01 +0000
from: "l-soft list server at netspace.org (1.8d)" <listserv@netspace.org>
subject:      file: "indigo-girls log9912a"
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re napster:

i for one....think that...hmm...if you have live mp3s, or rare mp3s, or
non-mainstream released cd mp3s, those are fine to put up...but...

can i just say....don't put a whole cd up to be downloaded 1 song at a time.
maybe one song....give people a listen...but...we need to support these
artists and buy their cds....not rip them off.

i hope this doesn't strike anyone as having a holier than thou attitude...i
have over 200 mp3s on my computer.  i'm the last person who should be giving
anyone a lecture.  (:  but, think about it...indie artists rely on people
buying their music to be able to make a living.

anyone want to debate this topic?
-mel

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gram - thanks so much for the extra stamps - you rock - you are my bootleg
guardian angel!!!

lots of indigo-love,
tara

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tara and amanda ~

excellent posts! you both said exactly what i have felt for a long time now about a lot of music, and especially about the indigo girls.  "love's recovery"
used to just move me to tears...same with "power of two" and "language or the kiss."

i've gotta go pick up my daughter ~ wish i had more time to elaborate ~ but thanks for sharing that!

vicki

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hey all,

i just wanted to share my excitment about seeing the
girls tonight.  it's finally here and i can hardly
wait.  for all of you going to this st. louis show,
there is a after party at the side door.  mrs. fun is
playing and a few other bands.  i wonder if the girls
will show up!!!!!!!!   i'll let you all know how the
show is.  alice

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i think that ar was speaking more on how her writing has changed/evolved.

es's stuff seems to have, short of the strange fire album, been more
mature.    history of us & hey jesus....solid 8's on the melodramatic scale
of 1-10, 10 being "solid bellevue".

melissa

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> tara and amanda ~
>
> excellent posts! you both said exactly what i have felt for a long time
now about a lot of music, and especially about the indigo girls.  "love's
recovery"
> used to just move me to tears...same with "power of two" and "language or
the kiss."
>
> i've gotta go pick up my daughter ~ wish i had more time to elaborate ~
but thanks for sharing that!
>
> vicki
>
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>>i agree with you, tara, that while the newer stuff is somewhat
> avante-gard in it's approach to the present music world, it loses the
> emotional depth that was internal and integral in the earlier ig
> songs.  to me, the earlier ig songs were like public raw emotion.  in
> the newer stuff, the emotion is hiding - like it's afraid to come out
> and touch.<<


i think what you guys are feeling is actually their intention.  in this
latest interview at sonicnet
(http://www.sonicnet.com/news/archive/story.jhtml?id=520324),
amy says: "it's been so important for me to move beyond introversion
and melodrama... i don't want to write another song about unrequited
love and frame it like another love song. i want to use unique images
and frame things using the politics and everything else i see happening
around me."

so i think, at least as far as amy is concerned, we are going to see
less and less of the "you know just how i'm feeling" type of songs and
more of the politically motivated "look at what is going on all around
you" type.

to an extent i miss it too, but i respect amy's decision to get out of
herself... to move out of the empathy and more into using her music for
social change.  those songs that we loved will always be there... i'm
looking forward to some enlightnment now <g>.

besides, i think we can count on emily for the love songs ;)

jean


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in a message dated wed, 1 dec 1999  5:36:42 pm eastern standard time, melissa gordon <melissa@ce1.com> writes:

> i think that ar was speaking more on how her writing has changed/evolved.

exactly.  she says basically that instead of just writing purely emotional songs that she is wrapping those emotions in with her political and social beliefs - it's a grand idea - her talking about encompassing emotion, politics, and social stuff in each song cause her life composes all these elements at once - but still - sometimes the way we feel emotionally is pure and simple - when we are heartbroken, we don't think of the political world.  we can't.  we are in our own world of heartache.  so, i think, to wrap emotional songs into other aspects of life takes away from the emotional impact the song can have.

amanda

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hey, are there any listies that are gonna be there besides myself? dunno about
the rest of you, but i am thinking list meet...

pp&p,
meredith

~~~
just wanted everyone to know in advance this time that melissa ferrick is
playing saturday night (this comin saturday, the 4th) at the bitter end on
bleecker st in greenwich village, ny  she should be playing from aboutb 8-10
or so.


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on wed, 1 dec 1999, indigo mel wrote:

> can i just say....don't put a whole cd up to be downloaded 1 song at a time.
> maybe one song....give people a listen...but...we need to support these
> artists and buy their cds....not rip them off.

   one of the things napster does is automatically look through your
drives and shares the files.  i use mp3'd copies of a lot of my cds when
in my apartment, because it saves wear and tear, and i have a crapload of
disk space.  (bastards tried to grab my michelle malone!)

> i hope this doesn't strike anyone as having a holier than thou attitude...i
> have over 200 mp3s on my computer.  i'm the last person who should be giving
> anyone a lecture.  (:  but, think about it...indie artists rely on people
> buying their music to be able to make a living.

   we've discussed the copyright law thingy to death.  if it's on an
official cd, don't share it.  if it's cool rare stuff, feel
free!  unfortunately, not too many people abide by that...

   darius

"slash looks like joe, joe looks like keith, i look like mick, mick looks
like a black man, black man invented the blues, blues had a baby and
names it rock n' roll, and dude looks like a lady an all that other
stuff."
   - steven tyler

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--- barbara bordner <barbarafrommn@webtv.net> wrote:
> still looking for tickets, name your price.

twm offers these words o' wisdom for everyone:

as i understand it you're looking for (good?) tickets
at below face value.

i'm sure you appreciate you're asking someone either
to part with a free ticket or to take a loss on what
they paid. neither of which is a particularly
desirable option for that someone.

in either case your best bet is to arrive at the venue
sometime after the opening act begins to play.
scalpers will be lowering their prices and your
bargaining power is high (after all, their tickets
will be of no use 'tomorrow').

a good friend of twm upped her indigo girl seating to
second row for $20 (at a recent philadelphia show)
using this tried and trusted method.

of course, if you don't have a seat in the first
place, it's more of a gamble, but one that may well
pay off.

other than that, in this case your apparent
desperation, yet reluctance to pay full price, does
seem to be somewhat contradictory to the current laws
of supply and demand. thus twm wishes you the very
best of luck.

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as someone who is finishing up a legal aspects of the music industry class, i
find it somewhat unsettling to see this thread about napster and trading mp3
files.  granted, i have a number of mp3s on my hard drive, but they were all
taken from sites where the artist was offering them up for anyone to download
(like mp3.com) and not directly off of cds.

one of the main ways an artist makes money is by selling cds.  if people start
trading mp3s around instead of buying a copy for themselves, the artist will
never be able to make back the advance the record company gave them to make the
cd in the first place, and if they did it themselves, they'll still owe the
bank.

granted, most of the folks on this list probably have all of the indigo girls
cds (or at least most) and having an mp3 of a song wouldn't make much of a
difference.  however, please keep in mind that although legislation hasn't been
passed to make mp3 trading illegal, in essence, it is a form of copyright
infringement.  and the people it hurts the most tend to be the people you want
to support.

anna
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shel posted that there will be a collection of toys at the chicago show,
so i thought i'd chime in and mention that the indianapolis and
bloomington shows are being billed as "toys for tots" shows by wtts-fm.
bring a new, unwrapped toy, and they'll pass them on to kids who might not
otherwise get holiday presents. wtts has a history of bringing in really
cool artists for their toys for tots shows every year (last year was patty
griffin and son volt; two years ago was dar williams, sue medley & jen
trynin).

i'm guessing they may receive more little stuffed tinky-winkies than they
anticipate. ;)

also, i may have a spare ticket for the bloomington (that's indiana, not
illinois or minnesota) show -- it's a student ticket, which means you have
to show an iu student id along with your ticket to get in (i won't vouch
for how carefully they inspect said id to ensure that it's actually
yours....). face value, of course, which is $25. i have a friend who may
buy it from me, but if she doesn't, it's up for grabs. oh yeah -- 9th row,
section d, which is the right-hand of the two center sections (there's 4
sections in the auditorium).

still no clue who's opening in bloomington. i even called union board, the
student group sponsoring the show, and asked them, but they haven't
received that information yet. if anyone finds out, please post!

cheers,

-anne, your friendly neighborhood library geek

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   i'm ready to leave all this wreckage behind me."  -rose polenzani, "or"
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so i've been away from email for awhile and i have much personally to reply
to but before i do:

the new, and final indicated deadline is 31 dec 1999.

so there's still time to de-procrastinate and contribute:

indicated is a series of indigo girls tribute albums featuring list-folks
doing their versions of indigo girls tunes.

some are good, some bad, but all have one thing in common: they're all
list-folks doing their versions of indigo girls tunes!

so don't delay, join in today, there's still time to mail me your cassettes
or cdrs or even email me mp3s or .wavs.

just email me for more details...

ps. tonight i will be (finally) be finishing off attack of the killer
b-sides volume four. i hope to offer it to the list within a week along with
other tasty goodies (once i get copies made for the branches etc.)

i also need to do some serious work on my websites, but here they are
anyway. please update any links you may have, and if you don't then please
add them:
go.to/indigogirls
go.to/edenburning

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i don't know why i always seem to be contrary to everyone else who posts
(on most of my lists, even), but i personally feel just as deeply connected
to the cons material as i do to the older, "introspective" stuff.  i can't
say why . . . maybe it's because i have this burning need to speak out on
these things myself.  i've never been one to sit by passively while things
happen that offend my sensibilities.  i guess the songs on cons just awaken
a different part of me--the part that cares so much about things happening
in the rest of the world, not just in my own life.  it's not the same sort
of empathic connection . . . but it's there, and for me, it's just as strong.


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i remember when i was in wal-mart ( buying the necessities of life) and
was walking by the music section and about had a coronary.  i was
hearing ms. emily saliers...  it was her and vonda doing baby don't you
break my heart slow..the video was playing right there for all to
see....

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in a message dated 12/1/99 1:03:11 pm pacific standard time,
telane@trigon.com writes:

> lyrics is what i think pulled me towards them to begin with, and well, i
>  just don't get that with faye tucker and andy.  not that i don't like the
>  songs and all, because i do, and i get all riled up at the concerts and
jump
>  around and sing to the new stuff, and feel inspired to get involved when
amy
>  sings 'go' and i'm mad at the world when emily sings 'trouble', but you
>  know, i just don't get that overwhelming "oh, god, yes, someone understands
>  what i'm going through" kind of connected emotional, personal feeling
>  anymore.  i miss that.
>  anyone else?
>  -tara
i don't miss it because i still get it.  it may not be so literal in the
words, but the feeling i get is the same...of course a lot depends on my mood
and what i am thinking about that day...i really got that feeling listening
to leeds, hey kind friend, don't give that girl a gun, ozillene(spelling?)  ,
sister, andy(the disturbing imagery of being "broken", ), philosophy of loss,
go, etc. also i think they said the next album is going to be different...
pax
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i am now the proud owner of a cd burner! yay :-)
so if there are any cd boot trees or trades going on
i'd like to be a part of them. i don't have any ig
boots *sob* but i have some dar williams, ani
difranco, dan bern, and moxy fruvous stuff from past
folk festivals. and of course plenty of blanks. thanks
yall

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in a message dated 12/1/99 4:10:03 pm pacific standard time,
indigrrl@mail.gn1.net writes:

> happen that offend my sensibilities.  i guess the songs on cons just awaken
>  a different part of me--the part that cares so much about things happening
>  in the rest of the world, not just in my own life.  it's not the same sort
>  of empathic connection . . . but it's there, and for me, it's just as
strong.
>
i agree completely, and thank you for not writing "empathetic"
vesper


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in a message dated 12/1/99 4:59:21 pm central standard time,
sneakyjean@yahoo.com writes:

> so i think, at least as far as amy is concerned, we are going to see
>  less and less of the "you know just how i'm feeling" type of songs and
>  more of the politically motivated "look at what is going on all around
>  you" type.
>
>  to an extent i miss it too, but i respect amy's decision to get out of
>  herself... to move out of the empathy and more into using her music for
>  social change.  those songs that we loved will always be there... i'm
>  looking forward to some enlightnment now <g>.

all i'm saying is - that personally, i feel that if you try to incorporate so
many different things in your songs, each aspect is gonna suffer.  because
each aspect takes away meaning from the other aspect. hard to explain!  :)

i'm just talking personally - the older stuff is more emotionally meaningful
to me as  a person.

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time for my two cents...

i can see why this album is hitting some igists a little sideways. it's
lyrics are waaay more poetic then previous albums. befor, the lyrics were
simple and honest, and very straight forward. this time around, both girls got
very metaphorical.

i very much believe that this is a sign of the girls 'backwards maturation'.
most bands get softer and jazzier and more straight forward with their lyrics
as the years go by, and ig has done the opposite. they have gotten edgier, and
have practially given up jazz since po2, and the more obtuse lyrics follow
that patern. it's not a bad thing, either. it means they are getting more
control over their craft, and are able to take advantage of a bigger musical
vocabulary.

also...

am i the only one who thinks that cons is a complete songwriting victory for
amy? her songs really shine on this album... and (please don't flame me) her
songs in general are much better then emily's on this album. amy is in top
form. please don't ge me wrong, up to this point, i felt emily was the
stronger songwriter on all the albums, and in no way did she crap out on cons,
but amy's performance is a pleasant suprise.

let the arguments begin!
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hello

i was wondering if anyone booted the orlando, fl show on oct 23 at
hard rock live.  i would love to get a copy and have a few things
available to trade.

thanks !

tami

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i think that something i see happening with ig's music is that both amy
and emily are becoming much more mature songwriters, both lyrically and
musically.  amy, especially, seems to me to have taken on a lot more
depth in her songwriting (sister and dgtgag are excellent examples of
this).  and while i don't hear much new material of such a personal
nature as we find on ig or n*i*s, i'm drawn to the comparison of any
poet who matures over time.  "adolescent" poetry, usually generated by
high school or college students, is often about love (lost or found) and
other moments of an intensely personal nature.  there's nothing wrong
with that, certainly.  but as artists mature, they start to see that the
world around them reflects a lot of what they have going on inside, and
it's this realization which creates more mature work.

ig has never been quiet about their interest in social change, going all
the way back to prince of darkness and hammer and a nail.  however,
those songs are both quite internally directed -- the persona of the
song is talking about their own realizations and need to change the
world around them.  the new material, however, is outwardly directed --
calling for others to come to the same realization the songwriter has
come to, and hopefully inspiring action.

will we see another blood and fire come out of amy?  probably not.
she's taken to expressing those moments in her life in a much different
manner.  emily has never expressed herself in quite that way, and i find
it interesting that leeds is perhaps the closest she's ever gotten to
such a song.

i welcome such growth in artists.  madonna has gone through a similar
change, to wonderful effect.  (if you haven't given the ray of light cd
a hard listen yet, you should.)  and, frankly, it's the artists who
continue to turn out melodramatic songs of love lost which lose their
appeal for me.

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i think that if you take the studio releases sequentially you will see a & e
becoming more overtly political with each release.  one of the things that
attracted me to the indigo girls from the outset was the fact that they
weren't just another pop act out to reap their moment of fame end elusive
fortune; that they were committed to higher ideals in the manner of the folk
tradition, but that they would use that tradition as a foundation for
developing their own voice and vision rather than merely echoing the past.

i can state for a fact that my own life would have definitely taken a much
different course if i had never been exposed to the girls and their music.

peace,
tim

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>i don't know why i always seem to be contrary to everyone else who posts
>(on most of my lists, even), but i personally feel just as deeply connected
>to the cons material as i do to the older, "introspective" stuff.  i can't
>say why . . . maybe it's because i have this burning need to speak out on
>these things myself.  i've never been one to sit by passively while things
>happen that offend my sensibilities.  i guess the songs on cons just awaken
>a different part of me--the part that cares so much about things happening
>in the rest of the world, not just in my own life.  it's not the same sort
>of empathic connection . . . but it's there, and for me, it's just as
strong.
>
>
>battle on,
>shanie
>(taking up the gabwhacker in defense of the bard, in all lifetimes)
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funny that you mention it.. i was picking up pictures at that wonderful store
and none other than peace tonight came on.  since i quickly remembered that i
was in decatur alabama and nothing better than country ho-down boot scootin
tunes came on the radio, i asked.  the lady said that it was just a special
cd wal-mart compiled.. nice that ig made it :)
well, i had to smile!
:)
peace-
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i, on the other hand, have no problem being holier then thou. i think the
issue should be mentioned that anyhting that is not public domain, or that the
artist has not given permission for you to use that has been ripped and
distributed is illegal. period. it is an infringement of copyright. i,
personally, would never yell at anyone for copying and distributing a song of
mine on mp3, i would consider it a compliment. one song is great promotion.
but the whole album? that would be taking money out of my pocket.

having said that, i do both legal and illegal download mp3s anyway. i know i'm
a hypocrit.

always the bearer of bad tidings,
meredith


~~~~~~~

can i just say....don't put a whole cd up to be downloaded 1 song at a time.
maybe one song....give people a listen...but...we need to support these
artists and buy their cds....not rip them off.


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>the lady said that it was just a special
>cd wal-mart compiled.. nice that ig made it :)
>well, i had to smile!

i had an experience like this over thanksgiving. i was in my hometown and
went out with an old friend to a bar/restaurant that seemed to cater to the
25-30-something crowd. we had a beer at the bar and i noticed the goo goo
dolls were coming out of the speakers (black balloon). when that song ended
galileo started up! i was really surprised, actually. i learned it was a
compilation tape. pretty cool, even if it was probably the most mainstream
of ig's songs these days. i didn't think even galileo would be heard at a
place like this one.

>p.s.  of all of you that have been so fortunate to have seen philosophy of
>loss live, was it with a full band, or did emily play the piano?  thanks :)

when i saw it a month or so ago emily played guitar and the band backed her
up. it sounded great!

-sue

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in a message dated 12/1/99 8:23:05 pm eastern standard time, gitroop@aol.com
writes:

<< funny that you mention it.. i was picking up pictures at that wonderful
store
and none other than peace tonight came on.  since i quickly remembered that i
was in decatur alabama and nothing better than country ho-down boot scootin
tunes came on the radio, i asked.  the lady said that it was just a special
cd wal-mart compiled.. nice that ig made it :)
well, i had to smile!
:)
peace-
trooper
p.s.  of all of you that have been so fortunate to have seen philosophy of
loss live, was it with a full band, or did emily play the piano?  thanks :)
>>


man, next thing ya know, they'll be playing a muzak version of dar's "bought
and sold".

cynically yours,
shana

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>>am i the only one who thinks that cons is a complete songwriting
victory for amy? <<

nope!  i think so too.  and from what i have read amy really feels like
she hit her stride on this album as well.

jean

--- meredith matthews <singeralto@usa.net> wrote:
> time for my two cents...
>
> i can see why this album is hitting some igists a little sideways.
> it's
> lyrics are waaay more poetic then previous albums. befor, the lyrics
> were
> simple and honest, and very straight forward. this time around, both
> girls got
> very metaphorical.
>
> i very much believe that this is a sign of the girls 'backwards
> maturation'.
> most bands get softer and jazzier and more straight forward with
> their lyrics
> as the years go by, and ig has done the opposite. they have gotten
> edgier, and
> have practially given up jazz since po2, and the more obtuse lyrics
> follow
> that patern. it's not a bad thing, either. it means they are getting
> more
> control over their craft, and are able to take advantage of a bigger
> musical
> vocabulary.
>
> also...
>
> am i the only one who thinks that cons is a complete songwriting
> victory for
> amy? her songs really shine on this album... and (please don't flame
> me) her
> songs in general are much better then emily's on this album. amy is
> in top
> form. please don't ge me wrong, up to this point, i felt emily was
> the
> stronger songwriter on all the albums, and in no way did she crap out
> on cons,
> but amy's performance is a pleasant suprise.
>
> let the arguments begin!
> meredith
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from catherine:
>the only thing i was a little nervous about is that i had to tell my
>mother-in-law i was going to atlanta alone - without her son.   she took
it ok but now she thinks i'm  totally obsessed with
>the girls - which is probably true

i got a kick out of this! i've been through something similar with my
mother-in-law, and it came up over thanksgiving. my mother-in-law could not
understand why i went to 4 ig shows in one week, most of them all by myself
(chris went to one show with me - he loved it but that was enough for him).
she thought i was completely crazy. she also has trouble understanding why
i do things on my own sometimes, but that's the way it has always been with
chris and me so she has learned to expect it.

i couldn't manage to get the time to go to atlanta or i'd be right there
with you!

you know, when _my_ parents heard i went to 4 ig shows in a week they were
interested in hearing some ig. i told them i'd send a compilation tape.
then my parents said they'd like to go to a concert if ig ever toured
through phoenix, which they were just about to do at the time of that
conversation. when my parents learned the girls were lesbians with a large
lesbian following they became worried they would feel uncomfortable at the
show. sigh. i patiently told my parents that ig audiences are about the
warmest they'd ever find, that the ig have always been interested in
reaching all kinds of people, and that they'd love the show - but(!) - they
had to learn the music to really understand why their daughter is so
obsessed. so that's the next step - my parents missed the last tour but
we're planning to go together to the next one. (though i'll probably get
them tickets a bit further back so they can sit for most of it...).

so - do you think ig have the power to cure my parents of their homophobia?
any documented cases out there?

-sue

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i just don't get that overwhelming "oh, god, > yes, someone understands
> what i'm going through" kind of connected emotional, > personal
feeling
> anymore

somebody made the wise comment that they may not be able to relate to
cons because of the girls' lack of youthful angst, and their new outward
focus.  pretty astute observation, youngun!  as y'all may know, i'm
acutely focused on age since i'm turning 40 in 5 days, but i really love
cons and i do have that feeling described above on many of its tracks.
especially soon to be nothing, peace tonight and parts of cold beer and
remote control.  i can so relate to the emotions expressed there because
they are the emotions of a 35 year old going through the shit you go
through at that time of life.  in my 20's i was way more angst ridden,
so i guess i gravitated more toward that genre.  of course, i loved them
in my 20's too.

that said, i have been listening to a lot of the girls' really early
stuff lately, and i truly love it.  true, there is a different and you
might say deeper emotional edge to the early stuff, but they had a lot
to work through at that time!  now they're more into the instruments and
techniques, although i still love their lyrics.  i got some very early
stuff (ep and more and color me gray) from somebody a long time ago and
had kind of put it to the side, but i encourage any of you who have that
to give  it a listen.  i swear, i sat in my car the other day just in
awe of those women and what they could do while still in their teens.
incredible talent even that early.  all their covers are beautiful, and
their early original stuff is some of their best stuff.  have y'all
heard high horse, holy city, should have never crossed your path?
finlandia?  they are so enthusiastic, so passionate, and so tight with
their harmonies and interlocking singing.  it's like i'm a fan all over
again.

now, i'm more pissed off than ever that these talented artists with a
career spanning over 20 years don't get more attention.  i crave an in
depth interview with them on tv with a serious interviewer, similar to
what shawn colvin did on shades of indigo, but about 10 times longer.
they talked a lot about what they want to do with their songs, and i am
so interested in understanding that creative process.  i am so sick of
hearing interviewers ask them if they're a couple.  emily says on shades
of indigo that she is always competing with herself to write a better
song, and she clarified that to mean not a commercial success, but just
a song that perfectly expresses what she wants to say.  she said she
doesn't want there to be any doubt what her message is, and that she
likes to make indirect references and use images.  she works on that
imagery to make it just right, and with that in mind, i have a question,
in case anyone has read this far.  in the beginning of soon to be
nothing, she talks about kelly mountain road, saw a heavy load etc.
sounds like a road she's travelled a million times but all of a sudden
it's hard to go there because of this new feeling of nothingness.  does
anybody know the significance of kelly mountain road to emily or even
where it is???  i hope that's not too personal a question.

have i mentioned lately that if you study the entire ig body of work and
strive to understand each song, you will never need expensive therapy??
that is so cool.

love you people,

bon

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<i>i just don't get that overwhelming "oh, god, > yes, someone understands</i>
<br><i>> what i'm going through" kind of connected emotional, > personal
feeling</i>
<br><i>> anymore</i>

<p>somebody made the wise comment that they may not be able to relate to
cons because of the girls' lack of youthful angst, and their new outward
focus.  pretty astute observation, youngun!  as y'all may know,
i'm acutely focused on age since i'm turning 40 in 5 days, but i really
love cons and i do have that feeling described above on many of its tracks. 
especially soon to be nothing, peace tonight and parts of cold beer and
remote control.  i can so relate to the emotions expressed there because
they are the emotions of a 35 year old going through the shit you go through
at that time of life.  in my 20's i was way more angst ridden, so
i guess i gravitated more toward that genre.  of course, i loved them
in my 20's too.

<p>that said, i have been listening to a lot of the girls' really early
stuff lately, and i truly love it.  true, there is a different and
you might say deeper emotional edge to the early stuff, but they had a
lot to work through at that time!  now they're more into the instruments
and techniques, although i still love their lyrics.  i got some very
early stuff (ep and more and color me gray) from somebody a long time ago
and had kind of put it to the side, but i encourage any of you who have
that to give  it a listen.  i swear, i sat in my car the other
day just in awe of those women and what they could do while still in their
teens.  incredible talent even that early.  all their covers
are beautiful, and their early original stuff is some of their best stuff. 
have y'all heard high horse, holy city, should have never crossed your
path?  finlandia?  they are so enthusiastic, so passionate, and
so tight with their harmonies and interlocking singing.  it's like
i'm a fan all over again.

<p>now, i'm more pissed off than ever that these talented artists with
a career spanning over 20 years don't get more attention.  i crave
an in depth interview with them on tv with a serious interviewer, similar
to what shawn colvin did on shades of indigo, but about 10 times longer. 
they talked a lot about what they want to do with their songs, and i am
so interested in understanding that creative process.  i am so sick
of hearing interviewers ask them if they're a couple.  emily says
on shades of indigo that she is always competing with herself to write
a better song, and she clarified that to mean not a commercial success,
but just a song that perfectly expresses what she wants to say.  she
said she doesn't want there to be any doubt what her message is, and that
she likes to make indirect references and use images.  she works on
that imagery to make it just right, and with that in mind, i have a question,
in case anyone has read this far.  in the beginning of soon to be
nothing, she talks about kelly mountain road, saw a heavy load etc. 
sounds like a road she's travelled a million times but all of a sudden
it's hard to go there because of this new feeling of nothingness. 
does anybody know the significance of kelly mountain road to emily or even
where it is???  i hope that's not too personal a question.

<p>have i mentioned lately that if you study the entire ig body of work
and strive to understand each song, you will never need expensive therapy?? 
that is so cool.

<p>love you people,

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i have not seen anyone mention this, but the accessories and apparel =
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in a message dated 12/1/99 7:06:07 pm, singeralto@usa.net writes:

<< am i the only one who thinks that cons is a complete songwriting victory
for
amy? >>

i definitly agree on this. her songs on cons run across a hugh spectrum, from
rock to country to celtic. and while she is loud on political issues (e.g.
go, faye tucker), she still manages to squeeze in some sweet inner personal
songs, e.g. ozilline, sister. her songwriting skills has grown so much. emily
can whip out solid ballads or pops anytime, and her older songs like ghost
and language or the kiss remain my top ig favorites, but musically i don't
think she expand as much as amy did. though trouble is a nice surprise.

my $.02

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ok - i'm an old broad too. actually, i'm just a month younger than amy. i
have always directly compared myself to amy and emily because i was the
same age and ostensibly capable of similar things, right? (well,
theoretically...) i felt my demographics, family circumstances, parents'
professions, etc... were pretty similar to theirs (from what little i
know), my first musical influences/albums were the same as theirs according
to interviews i've heard, i studied music starting at age 10 continuing
through college (including hs choir with friends i'd sing with after school
etc...), i transferred schools at the end of 82-83, lots of similarities in
the kinds of cultural things that might have influenced us, etc... so in
addition to really loving their music i sort of identified with them
personally, from as much as i know of them (which really isn't very
detailed - and i'm aware that much of it could be my own projection...).

i also identify with cons as much or more than their earlier work. i love
the way cons makes me feel. i love to sing along and dance around and
really enjoy it. i don't long for the love songs or the break-up songs
etc... what does this mean? do i not feel as deeply as i did when i was
younger? i can't believe that's it. i am more interested in the types of
ideas the girls are expressing these days - various life stories, gray
areas, things in the world that upset them or interest them. and i really
like what they're doing musically. i like the new sounds.

i still love the old stuff and it still moves me, but i'm right there with
them on this new stuff. i don't know whether it's an age thing or not.

-sue

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in a message dated 12/1/99 10:23:58 pm eastern standard time, blacey@aye.net
writes:

<< in the beginning of soon to be
nothing, she talks about kelly mountain road, saw a heavy load etc.
sounds like a road she's travelled a million times but all of a sudden
it's hard to go there because of this new feeling of nothingness.  does
anybody know the significance of kelly mountain road to emily or even
where it is??? >>

hey bon ~ hi all!

there is a kelly lake road in decatur, georgia ~ perhaps this is the road
about which em is lamenting?

i don't know...

but, i gotta tell you how i discovered this.  i went to www.metafind.com, and
typed in "kelly road" and lo and behold, i'm directed to this site, cogic
(church of god in christ, [a pentecostal church, i think]), on which i, of
course, clicked.  i'm suddenly throttled by volumnous organ music which
flooded my memory and prompted loud outbursts in fond remembrance of the
church lady (god bless dana carvey...or should i say, satan???!").  and those
too groovy graphics of flowing waters beckoning the fold to enter..."click
here for god's lifeboat," i thought.  it tickled my elbow, it did.  but then
i am weird.

and i agree with you, soon to be nothing strikes me at so many levels at this
stage in my life.  sometimes travelling that same old road is uncomfortable,
even paralyzing.  i am contemplating my stagnation as i type this...and the
key is finding a way through it, not out of it....

peace,

vicki

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i'm on a posting splurge - sorry!

one more question especially for you songwriters and musicians. i'm getting
really interested in the songwriting process in my old age. i never really
tried to write songs as a younster. i think i wrote one when i was 12 and
threw it away because i knew the lyrics were forced and atrocious. i gave
up and concentrated on gaining skills and knowledge about music.

i sort of wish i hadn't done that. see, i think i have always been trapped
in the idea that i needed to become an expert in something before i was
qualified to do it (so here i am in school at 35!). as far as songwriting
goes, i decided i'd better know everything about theory so i wouldn't break
any rules, and i'd better become highly skilled on an instrument so i'd
have lots of range to express varied musical ideas, and i'd better get
pretty good at poetry and creative writing so my lyrics wouldn't suck.

so you see why i haven't written any songs yet.

these days i'm giving it more of a try - mainly on guitar because that's a
recent instrument for me and i don't have facility with the whole
fretboard. the theory side of it doesn't jump out screaming at me the way
it does on piano (where i see scales, chords, intervals, etc... all over
the place - these constrict me). on guitar i can explore musical sounds and
ideas rather freely. i hear intervals and chords that i can name, but
that's sort of after the fact intellectually, which works much better for
me in expressing myself.

so after that long-winded intro, here's my question! how do you folks out
there approach the song-writing process? do you do it with lots of thought
to conventional chord progressions? do you end up using the usual popular
chord progressions without thinking about them? do you just hear things
that sound good and go with that? do you worry about breaking composition
rules? do you study harmony and voicings and try to apply those?

how about ig? i think i heard/read that they compose their vocal harmonies
by ear. their songs are based on just a few chord progressions - some more
common in emily's writing and some in amy's and then there's some
crossover, and just a bit of experimentation in alternate tunings. i wonder
if this is what they learned early on so they hear these progressions more
readily. i wonder how they approached the alternate tunings (i.e. - learned
patterns from others, or picked out the chords they were trying to find
(theory first), or just plunked their fingers down until it sounded right).
i'm interested in how their songwriting process leads them to the
progressions they choose, and then how they do the arrangements. is it all
by ear, or is it thought out with some kind of underpinnings in theory. how
much did they study music in hs and college?  did they ever feel
intimidated arranging music for the musicians who work with them? (or is
that done collaboratively anyway?) etc...

one thing's for sure - they went ahead and created music that's meant a lot
to us all. you don't have to be an expert to create. maybe sometimes it is
better not to be!

i'd be interested in all of your experiences.

and i should probably go listen to hammer and a nail again because that's a
good song to for me to live by...
-sue
"i'd think myself into jail"

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it seems my best songs are the ones that just *happen*.....often, out of the
blue, i'll receive a musical or lyrical gift that obviously comes from some
higher place....there's no logical way to describe it....

occasionally, i'll wake up with a song in my head, and if it's loud enough,
i'll get up and write it down.  the chorus to one of my most requested
numbers came to me while i was driving to a gig....i jotted it down on a
napkin and wrote the verses the next day.

i do my best to avoid letting my background in music theory put chains
around my creativity.  i constantly experiment with chord variations,
alternate tunings, unexpected changes, etc., but there's really no way to
explain the experience of finding just the right chord or just the right
word when you need it other than to believe in the existence of some higher
power.....

i can write music pretty much at will, but lyrics are a different
matter....when i'm inspired, an entire song may usher forth in a half hour,
but there have been others that have taken years to write....i usually start
out playing the guitar, trying different chord sequences and seeing what
develops.  i've had days where i've written 6 or 7 different melodies in a
sitting which eventually developed into complete songs.  lately i've been
content to wait for inspiration to strike as i've found that the results of
trying to force creativity rarely justify the effort...

many songwriters far more accomplished than i have reported similar feelings
of being the instrument through which the song was delivered, rather than
its creator....

for the benefit of the *old broads* on the list in their mid-30's to early
40's, i started writing songs in earnest a year or so before my 50th
birthday....this year, between the ages of 52 and 53 i've played on three
cds, organized dozens of songwriter shows, played several dozen solo gigs,
and have jammed with an incredible number of people.

sure beats sleeping in front of the tv.....

peace,
tim

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>so after that long-winded intro, here's my question! how do you folks out
>there approach the song-writing process? do you do it with lots of thought
>to conventional chord progressions? do you end up using the usual popular
>chord progressions without thinking about them? do you just hear things
>that sound good and go with that? do you worry about breaking composition
>rules? do you study harmony and voicings and try to apply those?
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in a message dated 12/2/99 12:48:03 am eastern standard time,
missing_lynx@email.msn.com writes:

<< for the benefit of the *old broads* on the list in their mid-30's to early
40's, i started writing songs in earnest a year or so before my 50th
birthday.... >>

wow!  kisses to you and thanks!  what an inspiration!  i was beginning to
wonder if the haze was ever going to clear and if i would find my way back
into the path of spiritual and emotional evolution!

vicki

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in a message dated 12/1/1999 11:41:54 am pacific standard time,
hawke2@email.msn.com writes:

> i'm busy watching my city being ruined by looters last night and the
>  gestapo-police today. what's up with everyone else?

i'm doing exactly the same thing ryan.  ugh.  it's like a warzone up here in
the capitol hill area of the city, and it's totally ridiculous.  i'm all for
peaceful protest, but i am totally looking forward to friday when all of this
violence and crap is over. (i hope.)

mis

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i agree.  i  think having a little bit of several different aspects in a
song,  takes away from
their identity.  one of my favorite musicians who just through living
his own life no matter how many times he was blacklisted,  no matter how
many  he was trashed by th music industry and network tv, and throw into
jail by huac,  he kept right on going  paving the way for  peter,paul
and mary, joanbaez, and  yes indigo girls..

the name?  pete seeger, who  used to play a variety of instruements,
settled for two....he figured it's better to play two instruements very
well, then to do  several instruments badly. so he focussed on his guitr
and banjo.  this sentiment is what i apply to the new direction the
girls have taken on cons.  i don't want  to
hear all this  'new styles'  one, they are much better at what they were
doing before, two,  when i listen to the girls i don't want to hear
styles that are new to them , but not new  to me,

i've been saying that world beat is so common
you can go to a starbucks and pick it up  on almost any collection cd, i
can go to the local shoppe and expect to find a huge supply of
international  worldbeat stuff from agelique kidjo, to  balinese parade
music, to meringue, salsa, ibo music from ethiopia,  i can listen to
that stuff almost anytime here in the twin cities,  just turn on my
local low-powerred community radio station kfai  at 106.7 fm or
(in mpls)  90.3 fm.   i don't need the girls  to
tell e about it.  while going, boy look at this new music.....it's not
new......it's been around for hundreds of years.  i don't want it to
become just another music made popular by commercial
art......what will happen to it when the girls aren't so popular
anymore?  it will have nowhere to go but down.

they do very well to support low-powerred radio,  community radio,
whatever you wnt to call it.  that's the thing to do.  but  please don't
change the style, i like it too much    as was

peace,

barb
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hi all,

i have one ticket for sale for the
dec. 4 minneapolis show.  it's
in the first balcony, section 9,
8th row, seat 4.  it's a nice seat
overlooking the stage.  cost is
what i paid, $34.50, which includes
tm charges.  if anyone is
interested, please let me know
as soon as possible.

thanks,
lisa
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anyone ever ordered from there???  ok, stupid ? i guess... anyway i'm
thinking of getting something and i'm wondering what kind of luck you've had.
approx how long til you get yer stuff?  ummm i think that's it.... email me
privately :)
(the other) jill

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reply-to:     meredith matthews <singeralto@usa.net>
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i totally agree with tim on this one, and i believe so would every other
songwriter/poet/whatever i know....

i started out as a writer, actually, even though i played music befor i
started earnestly writing, the combination of the two took quite some time to
even dawn on me. and, to date, i have been a much more successful poet then
musician... but i digress. my most requested song came together almost
completely in about an hour, and was complete in aproximatly it's current form
the next day. i have several award winning poems that 'happened' in a similar
fashion. what is amazing about these creations is that even i can still sit
down every once in a while, read them, and learn something new in the text. i
still don't understand how i can write something that is poetically complex
when i don't know i am doing it. for instance, after a year of constant
playing, only then did i realize that one song of mine had internal rhyme.

it's just like socrates said, more or less: you can't look to the poets for
wisdom, because they don't know what the hell they are even doing.

btw, my first pay gig is in january on the fordham campus. i have a feeling
that they will try to stick me with two sets, so you know what that means...
lots of ig covers. so, if you would like to hear me make an ass out of myself
poorly imitating the girls, e-mail me and i'll give you the info.

love and light and alternative tunings,
meredith

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blue, i'll receive a musical or lyrical gift that obviously comes from some
higher place....there's no logical way to describe it....


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date:         thu, 2 dec 1999 02:22:47 est
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i highly recommend performing songwriter to any and all independent
artists/songwriters on this list.  it's a great mag with lots of info on
songwriting, producing,  the music business...just tons of stuff.

www.performingsongwriter.com

i received two back issues last week.  one interviews both a&e (vol. 6, issue
31) and the other just amy (vol. 6, issue 38).  the pics alone
are...umm...worth the $8. ;-)

sue

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since we've been discussing songwriting, and it appears that there are many
people on the list that write, i thought this info might be of interest.

the ascap foundation president marilyn bergman and lilith fair artistic
director sarah mclachlan have made public the creation of the ascap
foundation/lilith fair songwriting contest. an annual national competition
co-sponsored by the two organizations, the contest is designed to encourage
women songwriters. the contest prize -- $25,000 for the grand prize winner
and $10,000 for the first runner-up -- are being funded by a group of the
country's most prominent women songwriters.

commenting on the contest, bergman said, "the ascap foundation is committed
to providing career development opportunities for talented and deserving
music creators. our friends at lilith fair have raised the profile of women
in music to a new level. by partnering with each other, we hope to bring
before the music industry and the public significant new songwriters for the
new millennium."


eligible applicants for the ascap foundation/lilith fair songwriting contest
are women not currently signed to a recording or music publishing contract.
applicants must submit one original song on cassette or cd, clearly typed or
printed lyric sheets, and a completed application. the deadline for
submissions is december 15th, 1999. winners will be announced in the spring
of 2000.

send submissions to:

the ascap foundation/ lilith fair songwriting contest
p.o. box 4022
ansonia station
new york, ny 10023

applications for entry can be obtained at www.lilithsong.org or by visiting a
participating guitar center store. application is free of charge. songs
entered in the competition will be judged for originality in composition and
lyrics. the judging will be a four-tier process.


initial screening by an ascap panel.
second stage judging will be done by music industry professionals and the
public through an online voting process.
third stage entries will be judged by a select group of a&r executives from
record labels and publishing firms.
the fourth and final phase will be judged by an elite panel of women
songwriters and artists determined by lilith fair and the ascap foundation.
this panel will select the two prize-winners.

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reply-to:     arjuna greist <endarphine@yahoo.com>
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hey y'all,
i don't really have a songwriting process. i've always
sung, & i've just about always written poetry, & about
2.5 years ago i decided to pick up the guitar, bang on
it for a while till it sounded decent, & try to
combine my singing & poetry into songwriting. my first
2 songs i can't play til i get my punk band (ah,
someday it will happen) but after my 1st coupla
attempts i got into the groove. i've had a lot of
informal training (in choirs for voice &
family/friends showing me some chords) but mostly i
just put my fingers down on the strings until i come
up with something that works.
i think the most important element for me in my
"process" is a muse- most often she comes in the form
of listening to suzanne vega, but other artits (such
as the girls, ani, & dar) also inspire me to write.
sometimes this results in a vega chord progression
mixed with an ani strum-pattern, but we won't talk
about that. ;) i need something genuine to inspire me-
an event, emotion, or true artist.
almost every time i sit down to write a song about
something i feel should be written about, it comes out
contrived & stupid. so i've learned to just let songs
happen, whenever they feel compelled to saunter or
tear their way through me.
i also have way more lyrics than melodies, (hey tim,
wanna join forces? :) )but that's changing as i
experiment with alternate tunings. i discovered my 1st
alternate tuning when my high e string broke & the new
one was still stretching out, staying at d.
so now i have songs in drop-d, double-drop-d, &
dadgad, but i still don't know the names of half the
chords i play.
speaking of myself (hehe) if you'd like to check out
my brand-spankin-new web page & give me some
suggestions, that would be great.
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/performance/6339/index.html
every artist should have their web page made by their
grrlfriend. :p

i haven't played cons much in the past month since
hannah was here & she *gasp* doesn't like it.
(for those of you following the
me-trying-to-get-my-grrlfriend-here saga, our siblings
came to the rescue & bought her a bus ticket out here-
hooray for siblings!)

but i love it, & i think i'll give it another listen
tomorrow. i guess i just like so many different types
of music, i can appreciate this newest release-
although i'm very happy to have their earlier albums
for moments of angst & inner reflection.
peace,
arjuna
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subject:      re: minneapolis ticket for sale
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i realize the date had already switched to thursday morning when my last
email went out.
so  i can mail a payment  "today"  if you want it mailed. i probably
won't be checking my email until 9 a m  cst, but i would like to hear
from you as soon as possible, forgive if i'm being abit obnoxious, i'm
just  anxious to work things out
in time.  believe me, i would do overnight express if i need to,
anything just so i have  the ticket by saturday.  thanks.

barb   :-)

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mel - i have to agree with you here --
<<<<can i just say....don't put a whole cd up to be downloaded 1 song at a
time.
maybe one song....give people a listen...but...we need to support these
artists and buy their cds....not rip them off.>>>>

i too, have about 200 mp3's on my computer - mostly live tori stuff - nothing
commercially released....but yes, one or two songs from an artist is ok - but
not the whole cd...there are lots of us who are completist collectors and buy
every cd regardless of if we have the whole cd on mp3's..but there are others
who would rather listen to mp3's than buy the cd's and i don't think we
should encourage these people... especially the independent artists (like
rose polenzani, for instance) need to be supported by us buying cd's...

also - on another note...i have been making lots of videos for people and i
have tried to contact everyone i have done tapes for lately..but (a big
thanks to jean moses for letting me know) one of my vcr's has been having
some problems lately - so if i have made you a tape and it is fucked up (tape
skipping, sound distortions) please e-mail me and i can re-tape it for you. i
have cleaned both vcr's and flipflopped them so that i am now recording with
the non-problematic vcr and everything seems to be ok now.

i still haven't listened to my early dar tape to figure out what song was the
one that was written about the military/draft card burning stuff...but i'll
try to do that...i personally have never understood the desire to go into the
military..why you want want to be purposely harrassed and tortured...yuk - i
already did that once - it was called high school. did anyone see that stuff
they had on dateline or one of those news programs a while back about the
pins  - i don't remember all the details but it was nasty - how when the guys
finished basic training or something like that they would get "pinned" which
involved another person hammering/pounding a sharp pin (like an air force pin
or something) into another guy's bare chest... oh yuk

lisa

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reply-to:     havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com>
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please do not interpret this as a flame, as that is certainly not my intent,
but posts like this seem to crop up on the lists of almost every established
artist who sails into uncharted waters rather than follow the established
course.  some people like change, some don't, but performing artists have to
continually reinvent themselves or risk being swept aside by the tide, or
worse, losing interest in performing.

amy and emily are wonderful examples of creative people pushing themselves
to the limit in a never ceasing effort to better themselves.  they've never
wavered from that purpose.  songs like ghost or galileo or mystery or love
will come to you are gifts.  many songwriters would give at least one
appendage to write just one song that good.

emily's a different person today than she was 5 or 6 years ago.  we all are.
>from interviews i've read, she's been in a stable relationship for the past
several years, so perhaps songs of lost love and yearning are hard to come
by.

nothing inspires a musician's creativity more than the opportunity to play
with different musicians.  how many bands go out and play the same set,
night after night, month after month, year after year even.  the girls are
constantly adding new songs and finding fresh ways of treating their back
catalog, utilizing the talents of people they like and admire.

i read an interview with andy stochansky this morning in artvoice, a local
weekly, in which he said that he felt that he had done all he could for
ani's music and didn't expect to work with her again.  without the freedom
to experiment and grow, it could easily be amy or emily making a similar
statement....

i truly do have sympathy for those of you who feel let down by the girls'
change in direction, but things could most definitely be worse....

peace,
tim

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i understand what tim says and so  i don't take
the post to be a flame at all, mine wasn't meant to be a flame either.
point well-taken tim. bu  guess i'm not a true blue ig fan, i've never
been one to just roll with the punches.  i  like what i  like, and
that's just who i am, i'm very staunchly into folk and accoustic,  that
is my mainstay almost to the point where i would major in if i could,
it is all sooooooooo  interesting to me.

once i like something, i like it for life and that's the truth.  i could
still like what the girls  were doing, and take part in this discussion
list on that level, go to shows and stuff,  just not lking their cons.
is all, hah?  they still do the things i support them for.

peace,

barb

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well, actually they have an inventory up on those portions of the site
(apparel & accessories), but nothing actually in stock... but i'm really
lookng forward to the time when they are in stock because a) they have a
pretty good seection coming and b) the prices are way better than the
concerts (ie $30 instead of $60 for the zip-up hemp sweatshirt, and $7
for the dog tags...).  looks like we might be out of luck as far as
date: sun, 12 dec 1999 20:48:01 +0000
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holiday shopping goes... but maybe it'll really be going in time to
spend any gift money there... ;)

shannon

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> jason lee wrote:
>
> i have not seen anyone mention this, but the accessories and
> apparel sections of igdirect are now up and running just in time for
> christmas.  now i can get that hat they were sold out of in dallas :)
>
> jason lee

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hello everyone,

jude & i have put together a cd boot of all of the recent interviews & in
studio performances on kmtt in the past few months.

we had a lot of fun pooling our resources and putting the project together.
we hope it is really going to light some fires on the list!

we've also added the interview/in-studio performance that the girls did in
studio c, in los angeles last month.    now is everybody's chance to hear all
the interviews they've heard about on the west coast!

i would like to put together a cd tree, and am asking for people willing to
be branches.   if interested, please send me an email at memememi@aol.com or
contact jude at hunterj1@aol.com

details on the cd follows:
track 1 - amy ray on kmtt - june 1, 1999
telephone interview

track 2 - indigo girls on kmtt - september 3, 1999
interview, peace tonight

track 3 - emily saliers on kmtt - november 9, 1999
telephone interview

track 4 - indigo girls on kmtt - november 12, 1999
private radio concert - taped at columbia city theater, seattle, wa
interview, gone again, peace tonight, go, get out the map

bonus
track 5 - indigo girls in studio c - radio 103.1 - november 4, 1999
interview, peace tonight, go

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in a message dated thu, 2 dec 1999  2:51:49 am eastern standard time, havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com> writes:

> please do not interpret this as a flame, as that is certainly not my intent,
> but posts like this seem to crop up on the lists of almost every established
> artist who sails into uncharted waters rather than follow the established
> course.  some people like change, some don't, but performing artists have to
> continually reinvent themselves or risk being swept aside by the tide, or
> worse, losing interest in performing.

i think the people, including myself, who have posted about the new stuff vs. the old stuff aren't saying that we don't enjoy the new stuff as well.  but from a purely emotional standpoint, the songs aren't as emotional.  for me, that doesn't mean that i don't think the songs are good or that the songs don't measure up.  i think the people talking about it on this side were just trying to say that they feel the new stuff doesn't have the same amount of emotion as some of the songs from the past.  i love the new album!  in fact, it's my favorite one so far!  :)  i think it absolutely rocks and i love the new sound.  all i was trying to say is that i don't get that "oh my god!  wow........" feeling with any of these songs from an emotional standpoint.  you know?  from a rocking standpoint, i am wowed.  i think the songs are great and, like i said, as a whole this is my favorite album.  i don't like the ig any less because of this album or anything like that.  i just don't get ge!
t emotionally lost in any of these songs.

and, that's just my personal opinion.  i like being wowed emotionally.  :)

amanda

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i think ig has been a great influence on my son. he has been a fan for 3 or
4 years of ig. he is 9 now. when they toured for sots a couple of years ago
i happened to mention on the ig newsgroup that i was taking him to see the
girls in concert. someone emailed me from the list to mention that maybe i
should be careful about taking him to the concert because they have such a
large gay following etc, he might see "inappropriate things" going on at the
concert etc. well of course i knew all this and it never occured to me to
even address it with him because for me its such a non-issue but i thought
"well maybe i should open up some kind of dialogue about it with him" so i
sat him down and just said, "you know honey when we go to the concert we may
see ladies around us kissing." he just looked at me and said "that's ok
mommy because then you and i , we can just kiss too." of course this cracked
me up and melted my heart! he has been to 3 ig concerts since then and has a
blast at each one!
:-)
lynne
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> from catherine:
> >the only thing i was a little nervous about is that i had to tell my
> >mother-in-law i was going to atlanta alone - without her son.   she took
> it ok but now she thinks i'm  totally obsessed with
> >the girls - which is probably true
>
> i got a kick out of this! i've been through something similar with my
> mother-in-law, and it came up over thanksgiving. my mother-in-law could
not
> understand why i went to 4 ig shows in one week, most of them all by
myself
> (chris went to one show with me - he loved it but that was enough for
him).
> she thought i was completely crazy. she also has trouble understanding why
> i do things on my own sometimes, but that's the way it has always been
with
> chris and me so she has learned to expect it.
>
> i couldn't manage to get the time to go to atlanta or i'd be right there
> with you!
>
> you know, when _my_ parents heard i went to 4 ig shows in a week they were
> interested in hearing some ig. i told them i'd send a compilation tape.
> then my parents said they'd like to go to a concert if ig ever toured
> through phoenix, which they were just about to do at the time of that
> conversation. when my parents learned the girls were lesbians with a large
> lesbian following they became worried they would feel uncomfortable at the
> show. sigh. i patiently told my parents that ig audiences are about the
> warmest they'd ever find, that the ig have always been interested in
> reaching all kinds of people, and that they'd love the show - but(!) -
they
> had to learn the music to really understand why their daughter is so
> obsessed. so that's the next step - my parents missed the last tour but
> we're planning to go together to the next one. (though i'll probably get
> them tickets a bit further back so they can sit for most of it...).
>
> so - do you think ig have the power to cure my parents of their
homophobia?
> any documented cases out there?
>
> -sue
>
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date:         thu, 2 dec 1999 06:38:43 -0800
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hey,

i am so glad to hear wal-mart was playing the girls
and a little surprised.  i use to live where wal-marts
headquarters is, in ar. well, they are really really
really conservative and i was so surprised to hear
people say they were playing the girls.  i hate to say
but if they knew they were gay, i don't think the
songs would be playing.  i guess on the positive side
maybe this means they are becoming more accepting or
realizing that gays and lesbians shop too.  alice

--- susan brill <susan.brill@yale.edu> wrote:
> >the lady said that it was just a special
> >cd wal-mart compiled.. nice that ig made it :)
> >well, i had to smile!
>
> i had an experience like this over thanksgiving. i
> was in my hometown and
> went out with an old friend to a bar/restaurant that
> seemed to cater to the
> 25-30-something crowd. we had a beer at the bar and
> i noticed the goo goo
> dolls were coming out of the speakers (black
> balloon). when that song ended
> galileo started up! i was really surprised,
> actually. i learned it was a
> compilation tape. pretty cool, even if it was
> probably the most mainstream
> of ig's songs these days. i didn't think even
> galileo would be heard at a
> place like this one.
>
> >p.s.  of all of you that have been so fortunate to
> have seen philosophy of
> >loss live, was it with a full band, or did emily
> play the piano?  thanks :)
>
> when i saw it a month or so ago emily played guitar
> and the band backed her
> up. it sounded great!
>
> -sue
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hey all,

i don't have a lot of time, but i wanted to tell you
all a little about he show last night. i have mixed
emotions about the performance.  i start negative so i
will end with the positive.  well, it was way too
short. i mean they only played for one hour and a
half.  the last show i went to was two hours.  did
anyone else feel this way at the show they saw.  the
other thing was they didn't talk to the crowd much.
that sucked. maybe it was because of our crowd, but
amy kept thanking us for listening to them, we were
quite during the slow songs.  she was really genuine
in thanking us, it felt good.  ok so on to the good, i
don't think i will remember everything. my favorite
part of the show was faye tucker.  i have never seen
amy so passionate. that song comes from the her soul.
it was amazing.  it was the best song of the night, so
powerful.  i love the stands they take.  the girls in
front of me were really cute too, they were in high
school i think i am pretty sure it was their first ig
concert and they were dancing and freakin out at every
song played, it was sooo awesome.  the girls can do
that to ya.  oh this is awesome to.  about a month ago
our community lost a young women, i didn't know her
very well, but she died and was really liked by a lot
of people.  well some how amy and emily were told and
their frist encore song was dedicated to her.  it was
great and i can't remember the title. it was a song
they typically don't play.  anyway, how cool is that
that they dedicated it to her.  wow!!!  then we got
two more songs to end the evening.  it was there first
show back from their holiday break and they rocked
over all.  sorry i can't go into more detail.  was
anyone else there, what did you think? alice
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tina - your email didn't work.  send me your new addy so i can send out
early recordings bootleg instructions.

-tara

tina harkness

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>>he just looked at me and said "that's ok mommy because then you and i
, we can just kiss too."<<

this is a great story!  don't you wish everyone could have such a
wonderful attitude?  ah, to be a kid again <g>

jean

--- listserve <timlynlist@home.com> wrote:
> i think ig has been a great influence on my son. he has been a fan
> for 3 or
> 4 years of ig. he is 9 now. when they toured for sots a couple of
> years ago
> i happened to mention on the ig newsgroup that i was taking him to
> see the
> girls in concert. someone emailed me from the list to mention that
> maybe i
> should be careful about taking him to the concert because they have
> such a
> large gay following etc, he might see "inappropriate things" going on
> at the
> concert etc. well of course i knew all this and it never occured to
> me to
> even address it with him because for me its such a non-issue but i
> thought
> "well maybe i should open up some kind of dialogue about it with him"
> so i
> sat him down and just said, "you know honey when we go to the concert
> we may
> see ladies around us kissing." he just looked at me and said "that's
> ok
> mommy because then you and i , we can just kiss too." of course this
> cracked
> me up and melted my heart! he has been to 3 ig concerts since then
> and has a
> blast at each one!
> :-)
> lynne
> ----- original message -----
> from: susan brill <susan.brill@yale.edu>
> to: <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
> sent: wednesday, december 01, 1999 10:19 pm
> subject: re: just want to say hi
>
>
> > from catherine:
> > >the only thing i was a little nervous about is that i had to tell
> my
> > >mother-in-law i was going to atlanta alone - without her son.
> she took
> > it ok but now she thinks i'm  totally obsessed with
> > >the girls - which is probably true
> >
> > i got a kick out of this! i've been through something similar with
> my
> > mother-in-law, and it came up over thanksgiving. my mother-in-law
> could
> not
> > understand why i went to 4 ig shows in one week, most of them all
> by
> myself
> > (chris went to one show with me - he loved it but that was enough
> for
> him).
> > she thought i was completely crazy. she also has trouble
> understanding why
> > i do things on my own sometimes, but that's the way it has always
> been
> with
> > chris and me so she has learned to expect it.
> >
> > i couldn't manage to get the time to go to atlanta or i'd be right
> there
> > with you!
> >
> > you know, when _my_ parents heard i went to 4 ig shows in a week
> they were
> > interested in hearing some ig. i told them i'd send a compilation
> tape.
> > then my parents said they'd like to go to a concert if ig ever
> toured
> > through phoenix, which they were just about to do at the time of
> that
> > conversation. when my parents learned the girls were lesbians with
> a large
> > lesbian following they became worried they would feel uncomfortable
> at the
> > show. sigh. i patiently told my parents that ig audiences are about
> the
> > warmest they'd ever find, that the ig have always been interested
> in
> > reaching all kinds of people, and that they'd love the show -
> but(!) -
> they
> > had to learn the music to really understand why their daughter is
> so
> > obsessed. so that's the next step - my parents missed the last tour
> but
> > we're planning to go together to the next one. (though i'll
> probably get
> > them tickets a bit further back so they can sit for most of it...).
> >
> > so - do you think ig have the power to cure my parents of their
> homophobia?
> > any documented cases out there?
> >
> > -sue
> >
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susan (and all):

thanks for posting your question!  i think for me, my songwriting process
is, well, whatever it is at the moment.  i have songs that have sprung out
of playing two chords over and over until the words came out, i have a song
that i wrote, in its entirety, on my computer here at work without ever
touching the guitar (in response to an e-mailed letter from a listee, no
less).

i wrote poetry for years, and when i started playing guitar a couple of
years ago, i started putting words to music--i never thought i'd show anyone
the end results, as i wasn't a "songwriter"--i had no musical training, no
concept of theory beyond what sounded/didn't sound right, and only a
rudimentary knowledge of guitar chords.  i went along with this same little
mindset, until a friend i'd met through voice class invited me over to jam,
and asked if i'd written anything.  i sheepishly pulled a song out, and we
worked through it together...that was february or march...in two weeks,
we're recording four tracks for a cd demo--three are songs that i've either
written or co-written.

i think one of the most important things is to be honest.  don't worry about
impressing your family/friends/writing a radio-friendly pop song (or, as is
often my problem, writing a complexly idiosyncratic piece that is so cool
that it will blow everyone away).  write what comes out.  if you decide
later you don't like it, you can always go back and change it.

another tip i got from the guy who teaches my songwriting workshop is to
write with a tape recorder on--get a cheap tape recorder from walgreens (i
use the same one i use to boot concerts), and have it ready so that when you
come up with a cool idea, or some lyrics, you can record it right away and
not worry about trying to remember it.  i also keep a small notebook with me
all the time, because (well, because i'm a chronic writer) sometimes i'll
get an idea for a line or two while i'm walking down the street, or while
i'm at work.

theory is good to the point that it gives you ideas for where something can
go--i'm in a theory class right now, and ecstatically happy because, after
three years of playing, i just learned the different kinds of seventh chords
and what they sound like...but at the same time, if i looked at theory and
said, well, according to page number ___ in this book, it says that i should
play this chord after that chord, i'd miss out on the creativity that can
come out of not knowing what the heck i'm doing.

write from your heart.  but also, write beyond cliches.  find an honest,
unique way of saying something...sometimes this is easier than others.  if
you have friends who write or play, try writing with them.  play with words
every day.  play music every day.  listen to different people.  heck, try
and play different people's songs...i can't tell you how many of my songs
this summer came out of botched attempts at playing rose polenzani songs--i
would see her play something, and the next day, try and figure out what song
it was when her hands made some particular shape, or how she moved from one
chord to another, and i'd end up with something else entirely.

don't worry about not being good enough.  just be you.

okay, off my songwriter soapbox.  good luck with your writing, and if you
ever need to bounce ideas or lyrics off of me, feel free to write back.

take care,
shelley

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date:         thu, 2 dec 1999 11:27:46 -0500
reply-to:     havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com>
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you might give a listen to september leaves or movie screen on my friend
katie's website, www.katiemiller.com

sister was the track on cons that struck the most resonant chord with me.

tim

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>
>and, that's just my personal opinion.  i like being wowed emotionally.  :)
>
>amanda

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just goes to prove that homophobia is an unnatural act.  kids are generally
accepting until they're subjected to the fears and prejudices of their
elders...

tim

>>>he just looked at me and said "that's ok mommy because then you and i
>, we can just kiss too."<<
>
>this is a great story!  don't you wish everyone could have such a
>wonderful attitude?  ah, to be a kid again <g>
>
>jean

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>i also have way more lyrics than melodies, (hey tim,
>wanna join forces? :) )but that's changing

hey all...i just had a thought.  would anyone be interested in doing some
long-distance collaboration (ie: trading lyrics, chord progressions,
thoughts, ideas, and seeing what comes of it)?  i've done some co-writing
and collaborative projects with friends here locally, and thought it might
be fun to see what we can come up with together.

take care,
shelley

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on thu, 2 dec 1999, that loud girl wrote:

> hey all...i just had a thought.  would anyone be interested in doing some
> long-distance collaboration (ie: trading lyrics, chord progressions,
> thoughts, ideas, and seeing what comes of it)?  i've done some co-writing
> and collaborative projects with friends here locally, and thought it might
> be fun to see what we can come up with together.

   that would be wicked cool if anything came out of it.  i'm currently in
this weird testerone arena rock mode that comes from trying to sequence
drums using a midi keyboard, and listening to too many springsteen
bootlegs, compounded by the fact that the entire guns n roses catalogue
has been playing in the living room for the last week.

   in other words...i'm interested...but not now!

   this repression of my snagness has been why i haven't jumped full
throttle into the songwriting discussion.  :p

   darius

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i'll be there on time and i'll pay the cost
for wanting things that can only be found,
in the darkness on the edge of town..."
   ---bruce springsteen

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hello all--
just wondering if anyone is going to the omaha show tonight...i'll be
there (my 5th concert)...i can't wait...not looking forward to the 3 hour
drive from good ol' k-state though (as if anyone cool would ever
come to manhattan, ks)...but it'll be worth it!

~kelly woodward
p.s. does anyone know why the girls never come to kansas city?  they
haven't been here since the swamp ophelia tour!

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hi all, i am closing one email account and opening another.  does anyone know
how i go about unsubscribing and then re-subscribing to the list?  please
email me privately.

thank you!!

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date:         thu, 2 dec 1999 11:35:00 -0700
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thank you, jason, for notifying us. i have been waiting patiently.

holy cow, my family is getting nothing for christmas because i'll be
spending all my money at indigogirlsdirect.com! woo hoo!

amy m.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
saliers/ray '00!
*write 'em in* !
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don't know if someone's mentioned this already ... indigogirlsdirect.com
does have t-shirts, sweatshirts, the "trouble" flag cap and the dog tag up,
but all of the items are coming up "temporarily out-of-stock or
unavailable." the prices are cheaper than what i saw at the l.a. show, even
when you figure in tax and shipping.

april

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oh, i see i have started something.  susan, i wish you were coming too,
but maybe next time.  as for your parents, i think it would be great for them
to go to a concert. that way they will realize there's absolutely nothing to
feel uncomfortable about and i agree that ig fans, no matter what their sexual
orientation, are some of the warmest, friendliest people i have ever met.

i think the biggest problem with homophobia is that people are afraid of what
they're not
exposed to and since they can't understand that two people of the same sex can
have a happy, "normal", relationship with eachother, they either make fun of it,
or avoid it, which is totally wrong (homophobia - ugh! ugh! ugh!).

i don't know what we can do to stop this.  i only know we all live in this world
together and we all need to treat each other with respect, no matter what god
we prey to, what color our skin is or who we love and if we keep working at it
as a unit, we'll get there.

take care
cathy

ps.  lynne, what a great story and what a great little boy.  see, you've already
      started things in a positive way for him - there will be one less
homophobe
      in our future.

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<< ? about daemon records
  >>
daemon rocks and they are generally pretty fast - 1 to 2 weeks.. :) lisa

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i have family members who are such homophobes.  they say  how they don't
understand why it's important for so many
gays to be public  and say that they are "gay."

so  i tell them why, i answer their question,
but no matter what i say, it jst doesn't sink in.
they end up repeeating themselves,  "but i just don't understand. i mean
i don't go out and say
i'm hetero. why should they come on out and say they're gay."  i say to
tem, "well you're not
in the minority either. you're not te one who gets  targetted for
mistreated.  it's okay  if you
and your family kiss and hold hands out on the street.  but if you're
gay you could  get shot and killed. "

they won't admitt they are being irrational at all.
ibut since they are older adults, who wants to
listen  to me i'm just more in sync with the times,  i guess.


peace

barb  :-)

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at 04:38 pm 12/2/99 est, lisa r wrote:
><< ? about daemon records
>  >>
>daemon rocks and they are generally pretty fast - 1 to 2 weeks.. :) lisa
>

i'm impressed with daemon too. i ordered something this fall just before i
was going on vacation. i indicated i'd pay for 2-day shipment, but i
realized the delivery date would depend on when they packed it up for the
delivery service. so i wrote in the "notes" section (or whatever they call
it on the on-line form) that i was going away in a few days and would love
to take the cds with me if possible. they wrote back that the order was
shipped that day and they hoped it would make it by the time i left. it
did! i thought that was a nice way to do business.

have fun ordering from daemon - nice people work there.

-sue

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hey everybody,
something i was pondering...
anyone have any ideas why the prices are higher (but the kids still selling
lemonade) for the merchandise at the shows and so much cheaper on indigo
girls direct?? hm.
on another note, the girls were mentioned on that vh1 show the list last
night...the topic was best girl bands. i think it was a guy from nsync that
put them number two...he even sang a little bit of galileo. they also showed
a little clip of the video for shame on you. it was a nice ig moment.

very very excited for the show this sunday in chicago,
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i almost always see at least one heterosexual(i assume) couple with a child
or teenager at ig concerts, which i find encouraging. there is a lot of
subtle homophobia happening on top of the outrages.  i am often asked if i am
gay, when wearing indigo girls shirts or talking about my musical tastes, as
if one must be to like the things i like...
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in a message dated 12/2/99 2:51:09 pm pacific standard time,
aeig2317@hotmail.com writes:

> on another note, the girls were mentioned on that vh1 show the list last
>  night...the topic was best girl bands. i think it was a guy from ns
something is disturbing to me about being put in a category such as "girl
bands," but i cannot quite put my finger on it...perhaps it is because you do
not hear people saying, "what is your favourite guy band?"  ig should be in
the top 10 of bands period.
just my little rant for the day
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vesper,

>>something is disturbing to me about being put in a category such as
"girl bands," but i cannot quite put my finger on it...perhaps it is
because you do not hear people saying, "what is your favourite guy
band?"<<

actually, i hear it all the time.  "boy bands" are bands like n'synch
and back street boys.  <g>  i'm not fond of them, but thay are out
there.

jean


--- vesper evensong <emilyraliers@aol.com> wrote:
> in a message dated 12/2/99 2:51:09 pm pacific standard time,
> aeig2317@hotmail.com writes:
>
> > on another note, the girls were mentioned on that vh1 show the list
> last
> >  night...the topic was best girl bands. i think it was a guy from
> ns
> something is disturbing to me about being put in a category such as
> "girl
> bands," but i cannot quite put my finger on it...perhaps it is
> because you do
> not hear people saying, "what is your favourite guy band?"  ig should
> be in
> the top 10 of bands period.
> just my little rant for the day
> vesper
>
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>in a message dated 12/2/99 2:51:09 pm pacific standard time,
>aeig2317@hotmail.com writes:
>
>> on another note, the girls were mentioned on that vh1 show the list last
>>  night...the topic was best girl bands. i think it was a guy from ns
>something is disturbing to me about being put in a category such as "girl
>bands," but i cannot quite put my finger on it...perhaps it is because you do
>not hear people saying, "what is your favourite guy band?"  ig should be in
>the top 10 of bands period.
>just my little rant for the day
>vesper
>
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you do, however, often hear the term "boyband," a nice even equivelent to
girlband.  theres even a musical on london's  west end now called boyband.

alisa

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the icky thing about that is, there's a huge difference between
manufactured "bands" like n'synch or spice girls, and groups like ig or
pearl jam.  the one is created to be marketed, and responds to the
market like a commodity, the other creates itself, and if it happens to
find a niche for sales, then fine.

drawing gender lines for musical creation only makes sense, to me, when
it involves the vocal range of the singers.  otherwise, you end up with
the problem of true artists only finding same-gender audiences, which
sucks.

jean moses wrote:

> actually, i hear it all the time.  "boy bands" are bands like n'synch
> and back street boys.  <g>  i'm not fond of them, but thay are out
> there.

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manufactured groups vs. non-manufactured groups.

how about the fact that gps like ig (or the dead etc) write their own
material..    that's probably why they got an 8 album deal to begin with.
woe is the a&r person who signs a "backstreet boys" to an 8 album deal.
they better hope that the early albums sell exremely well.

melissa

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> the icky thing about that is, there's a huge difference between
> manufactured "bands" like n'synch or spice girls, and groups like ig or
> pearl jam.  the one is created to be marketed, and responds to the
> market like a commodity, the other creates itself, and if it happens to
> find a niche for sales, then fine.
>
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>>drawing gender lines for musical creation only makes sense, to me,
when it involves the vocal range of the singers.  otherwise, you end up
with the problem of true artists only finding same-gender audiences,
which sucks.<<

i don't like the gender line thing in artistic endeavors either.  but i
think though that the so called "boy bands" like n'synch get a
cross-gender audience (ie mostly women) because that is how they are
marketed... as cute male teenage heart throbs.  as for the "girl bands"
well, they seem to get more of a mix.  boys that think they're "hot"
and girls that want to be them.

one of the things that i appreciate about ig is that they do get the
young teenage girls, but they also get teenage boys and adults of all
gender identities :)  for the most part they have a nice universal
appeal.

jean


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> the icky thing about that is, there's a huge difference between
> manufactured "bands" like n'synch or spice girls, and groups like ig
> or
> pearl jam.  the one is created to be marketed, and responds to the
> market like a commodity, the other creates itself, and if it happens
> to
> find a niche for sales, then fine.
>
> drawing gender lines for musical creation only makes sense, to me,
> when
> it involves the vocal range of the singers.  otherwise, you end up
> with
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> sucks.
>
> jean moses wrote:
>
> > actually, i hear it all the time.  "boy bands" are bands like
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in a message dated 12/2/99 3:44:55 pm pacific standard time,
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> the icky thing about that is, there's a huge difference between
>  manufactured "bands" like n'synch or spice girls, and groups like ig or
>  pearl jam.  the one is created to be marketed, and responds to the
>  market like a commodity, the other creates itself, and if it happens to
>  find a niche for sales, then fine.
>
>  drawing gender lines for musical creation only makes sense, to me, when
>  it involves the vocal range of the singers.  otherwise, you end up with
>  the problem of true artists only finding same-gender audiences, which
>  sucks.
thanks, you said that better than i could have
pax
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>  as for the "girl bands"
>  well, they seem to get more of a mix.  boys that think they're "hot"
>  and girls that want to be them.
i'm a boy who wants to be them
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as promised, leftover stuff from my interview with amy ray that didnt make it
into or got cut from the sonicnet story. thanks again for question
suggestions:

on the new album:

this record was important to me because it is an evolution and a progression
in the electronic realm but it also harkens back to our earlier stuff, some
of the folkier stuff and i really wanted to do that. we wanted to make an
acoustic record but we didnt have enough straight acoustic stuff to fill up
album.
and then we met john and the band at lilith and we started jamming with them
and sinead. he invited emily and i over -- he said lets play a little bit in
england and we went over there. we just recorded in his apartment, where he
had a studio and that was really cool...john brought out the sound i was
looking for in my electric stuff that i havent been able to find. i needed to
be able to just sit there by myself and play and work it out and he was
really patient with me.

on "ozilline," her grandmother and dealing with the difficult subject of
death:

it's been a hard year for us. weve had a lot of losses. the thing about my
grandmother...she's 94. the thing about her is she is a fiery woman you know.
my grandmother is like a lesson oriented woman...she believes in lessons, in
life lessons. she's big on that. and then there's this friend we have that's
like family to me and she has a debilitating illness but she always puts a
good face on it and has a positive outlook. i wanted to write about those
things. i record my grandmother telling stories a lot because i really love
her stories. she is a great story teller. so what's on the cd is just one of
the tapes i have of her.

on her growth as a songwriter:

it's been so important for me to move beyond introversion and melodrama. you
know.  and it's not like i'm holding myself back from writing that way. it's
not like i still want to write that way. i dont. not at all. i really dont
want to write that way anymore.  it has been so important to me to grow as a
songwriter and i'm constantly working really hard on that.


on go and the high school controversy:

when those high school kids stood up for us and themselves like that it meant
a lot to us. it helped me finish go. i had started that song awhile ago and i
just couldnt get it to work. couldnt get it done. and then the high school
thing happened and it all just came. those kids helped me write that song.

plans for 2000:

yeah we are planning to do honor the earth. it will be  early summer into
fall. early stages of planning it now. it'll be four weeks. it's gonna be
good. we hope to do suffergette again too. that thing last year was only the
very beginnings of what that can be. that is a fun deal. and we're gonna try
to play some high schools again too. planning to head to austrailia. parts of
europe. emily has already told me she really wants to go to japan. so  that's
a possibility.


on how audiences are reacting to the new stuff:


we're always really worried playing new stuff. you know, it's just natural to
worry about it. but i tell you we've gotten the best instant response for
this new stuff than we've ever gotten before. usually it takes some time for
support to build, but it's been there. it's our audience being really open
and willing and we appreciate that.


on the breaking up question:

no we're definitely not breaking up. we're at a great point right now and we
love this band and emily and i love working together. we are polar opposites,
but i think we inspire eachother to grow. (*at this point i said "yeah you
know when i first listened to the record and gone again came on i thot 'wow,
it is amy doing an emily song. and then trouble came on and i said wow it's
emily doing an amy song. i had to check the liner notes at that point.' for
some reason she got a big kick out of that and cracked up. then she said>)
she's expressing herself with harder edge tunes sometimes and sometimes i'm
writing more in the vein she usually writes. thats great. it's so good to be
in a creative partnership where you have that kind of freedom.


i asked her what it felt like to hear people in the audience belting out
their lyrics during closer to fine, power of two, gone again, galileo, shame
on you. i told her she always gets this look of amazement on her face and
they both seem to just genuinely beam. i said " i read a blurb about you guys
in rolling stone not too long ago and the guy wrote 'some day soon the indigo
girls won't have to play full songs at their shows anymore. they'll just do
the opening notes, back away from the mikes and let the audience take it from
there." she laughed hard and said:


that's great. he's probably right. i love it when the audience does that. it
feels right. it feels like what music is supposed to be about. it's a
community thing. it's like  the audience can feel like they are making some
contribution to what's happening, like it's important for them to be there.
you know when emily is singing her songs, i'm off to the side singing along
on her parts, just like the audience. i understand and it's good.


on her solo album, whether she will release it on daemon, and their future
with epic:

im going to do it(the solo album) without a doubt. i thot i was going to do
it after this record but i ran out of time because we ran over a month. gonna
do it on daemon. it'll be like punk and a little country....i dont know if
epic is going to let me do it, but they've been really supportive of daemon.
i have to go have some private corporate meeting about this eventually. i
think we have two left with epic.you know, i dont know. emily and i are going
to have to talk about that. emily and i have different perspectives on that.
i would like for us to be independent but she and i have to figure that out
together. epic is a great label and has been very good to us and everyone on
epic has a lot of freedom, but even epic is getting more corporate....

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sue, you were right on target with everything you said about cons.  i
say it's an age thing.

bonnie

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at 08:38 am 12/2/99 -0500, listserve wrote:
>i think ig has been a great influence on my son. he has been a fan for 3 or
>4 years of ig. he is 9 now.

i think it's great that you take your son to ig shows, and that he is
growing up with the influence of such a great mom. what a precious response
he had about kissing!

so - now i'm wondering something else of all of you in list land. what was
your first rock/folk/pop concert? where and when etc...

mine was elton john in 1975 ('76?) in philadelphia. i was 11, i'm pretty
sure. elton john was my first musical obsession - i collected all his
albums up to about 1978 or so. i begged to go to that concert so my dad
took me and my younger sister. dad wasn't really a fan, even elton john was
more rock oriented than he liked (dad was more of a nat king cole kind of
guy), but he ended up liking it.

i saw a few other shows with friends (not dad) in the next couple of years,
but i think it was 1978 when we convinced dad to take us and some
delinquent boys to see a boston concert. i'm afraid dad didn't enjoy that
very much, and i didn't go to too many concerts for a while after that!. i
felt bad for dad because he didn't enjoy loud electric sounds and he'd
never been exposed to the drugs that were everywhere at that show. a
teenager sitting next to dad tried to offer him a joint, and we were almost
hauled out of there at that moment. (i've read since then that the founder
and creative force of boston (tom ??) was a master's level mit grad in ee
and he hated all the drugs at the concerts. if only dad knew that at the
time i might have been able to go to the springsteen concert the next year!)

so which were y'all's first concerts? did your parents go with you?

-sue
looking forward to taking dad to an ig show

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my first concert was dionne warwick at the blossom music center in ohio...

first rock 'n' roll show, grand funk railroad and black oak arkansas at the
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pink floyd 1977-animals tour
incredible

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set your site up in the headlight
the moon won't be enough
light the embers of another
and the night won't seem so rough
sister...

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fairport convention, 1973, glassboro state college, nj. the opening act who canceled because of sickness: bruce springsteen.

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thank you tim for that very zen comment!  i agree with you completely.
i am not much of an artsy person like the girls are, and to me, they are
creative geniuses.  yes i love the old stuff. yes i love the new stuff.
but the seeds of the new stuff can be found in the very old stuff, and
vice versa.  ah.

<some people like change, some don't, but performing artists have to
continually reinvent themselves or risk being swept aside by the tide,
or
worse, losing interest in performing.  amy and emily are wonderful
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never
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thank you tim for that very zen comment!  i agree with you completely. 
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creative geniuses.  yes i love the old stuff. yes i love the new stuff. 
but the seeds of the new stuff can be found in the very old stuff, and
vice versa.  ah.

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the cure, the woodlands pavilion.  1992.

jason lee

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> fairport convention, 1973, glassboro state college, nj. the opening act
who canceled because of sickness: bruce springsteen.
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umm... new kids on the block in 1990.
and then paula abdul in '91.

i know they don't count.  :p
i guess ani difranco in '97 was my first 'real' concert.

i know i'm not the only exnkotb fan out there...
:op
mel

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my first concert was also in philly. my parents took my brother and i to see
three dog night (at the academy of music). i was 12 and i loved it! my first
concert by myself was cat stevens at the spectrum (probably in 1974). i
average about 3-5 concerts a year even now which is rare for my peer group
at this point. (i'm 40) i'd  go to more but money holds me back. i could
only afford one night this year to see ig out of the two they played at the
tower in philly. i took my husband and my son, jordan. in fact we will all
be going to the y-100 "feastaville" tomorrow night in philly (including
oldest son jonathan who is 13) beck, the foo fighters and oasis are the
headliners.

thanks for all the nice comments i got in response to my story about
jordan's first ig concert! they were fun to read. we had always intended to
take the boys to see the grateful dead as their first concert but poor jerry
died before we got the chance. (may he rest in peace) so their first concert
was the indigio girls in may 1997 at the mann music center!!! jordan and i
also got to see ig in 1998 at the bethlehem musikfest and we got to see
r.e.m. as a family this september. jonathan will be old enough to go to a
concert with friends in a few years and i'll sure miss going with him!
peace and love,
lynne
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> at 08:38 am 12/2/99 -0500, listserve wrote:
> >i think ig has been a great influence on my son. he has been a fan for 3
or
> >4 years of ig. he is 9 now.
>
> i think it's great that you take your son to ig shows, and that he is
> growing up with the influence of such a great mom. what a precious
response
> he had about kissing!
>
> so - now i'm wondering something else of all of you in list land. what was
> your first rock/folk/pop concert? where and when etc...
>
> mine was elton john in 1975 ('76?) in philadelphia. i was 11, i'm pretty
> sure. elton john was my first musical obsession - i collected all his
> albums up to about 1978 or so. i begged to go to that concert so my dad
> took me and my younger sister. dad wasn't really a fan, even elton john
was
> more rock oriented than he liked (dad was more of a nat king cole kind of
> guy), but he ended up liking it.
>
> i saw a few other shows with friends (not dad) in the next couple of
years,
> but i think it was 1978 when we convinced dad to take us and some
> delinquent boys to see a boston concert. i'm afraid dad didn't enjoy that
> very much, and i didn't go to too many concerts for a while after that!. i
> felt bad for dad because he didn't enjoy loud electric sounds and he'd
> never been exposed to the drugs that were everywhere at that show. a
> teenager sitting next to dad tried to offer him a joint, and we were
almost
> hauled out of there at that moment. (i've read since then that the founder
> and creative force of boston (tom ??) was a master's level mit grad in ee
> and he hated all the drugs at the concerts. if only dad knew that at the
> time i might have been able to go to the springsteen concert the next
year!)
>
> so which were y'all's first concerts? did your parents go with you?
>
> -sue
> looking forward to taking dad to an ig show
>
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on thu, 2 dec 1999, indigo mel wrote:

> umm... new kids on the block in 1990.
> and then paula abdul in '91.
>
> i know they don't count.  :p
> i guess ani difranco in '97 was my first 'real' concert.
>
> i know i'm not the only exnkotb fan out there...
> :op
> mel
>

no, you're most definitely not.  ;)  the only time i saw nkotb in concert
was the same year (nkotb, tommy page, and some other group in horrible
heat with like 70k other teenage girls), and saw paula abdul the same year
as you as well.<cue scary music> even worse, i had like 8th row seats for
vanilla ice, not to mention that ever-so-brief color me badd phase.

first rock concert:  reo speedwagon with cheap trick as an opener on the
wheels are turning tour.

kelly,
exposing my musical skeletons. :)

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this whole issue struck up a chord with me - it is actually kinda funny -
but also kinda shows how embedded homophobia is.

in '97, i had the chance to have photo and press passes to bates and
penobscot shows, the evening before bates, i was given a complimentary seat
to see tony bennett (which was i think a $100 seat) at our school's arts
center. i had a nosebleed seat and my mom wanted to go - so she drove two
hours, and we went - not sitting together, but hell, it was a free seat to
write the story (which i was doing on a regular basis anyway, so it was a
nice thing my editor threw my way.)

i guess my mom told the neighbors that i was interviewing ig, they looked at
my mom like "hmmm..." and my mom asked if they were gay, i was like "yeah,
but they are sooo awesome live - their sexuality was such a afterthought" my
mom kinda hinted that the neighbor thought only somebody, well you know,
could only be into the show if well..you get the idea.

i was like - who the f--k is to judge me by my musical taste (if that's the
case, i am a flaming lesbian!)  my mom actually likes ig - she wouldn't go
to  a show - but she realizes it's an environment where people may be a bit
more accepting of people , ect.

and well, there are moments of that weekend i never will forget - it was the
first show i shot and i just found out yesterday one of my shots (not a
concert photo, but a picture of the empire state building) made it into a
juried art exhibit touring maine next year for artists with disabilities...

peace-
mike r.

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my first "big" concert - jethro tull in 1972, (or thereabouts) in
boston.

the first one where i brought my teenagers - the indigo girls at the
univ. of new hampshire a few years ago.

elaine

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i just found out he's playing about two miles from where i'm staying (the
international hostel on arlington? i think) i know trying to convince ig
fans vic is worth going to see is a pretty tough thing, but they did do
"sweet relief 2" for a reason!


let me know privately - and if anyone, say , wants to set up a tape trade
for the chicago shows in person, lemme know!

mike r.

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my first rock concert was foghat in 1976 or 1977 (can't remember the exact
year ~ killed too many brain cells) at reed field house in kalamazoo.  the
band sucked and the show was short, like 45 minutes or so.  i didn't know the
band at all ~ i just went along for the ride, and to have the chance to sit
next to and flirt with this "really cute" guy....

the whole scenario echoes "that 70's show..."  the way we were packed in like
sardines and drove down to the concert in someone's parents' station wagon,
with the stereo full blast.  the best part of the night was the drive down,
listening to "hotel california."  still one of my favorite albums, some 20+
years later.  and, of course, another highlight in the superficial mind's eye
of a restless and aimlessly searching adolescent was the home grown...

but that's another story.

vicki

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hey reo and cheap trick have some good stuff. not much, in the case of reo,
more with cheap trick. and trick is really good live...

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my first anything concert was james taylor.  i will never forget it.

                        nosebleed seats nosebleed seats>>>>>>>

but worth every penny and every minute it took to climb the stairs to where
we were sitting.  he kicked ass!  i went with two of my camp friends and my
mother and my camp friend's mother (although the bought us separate tickets
so we could sit together and the two mommys could sit together).  after that,
either rem or tori amos.  i don't remember which came first.

i have to say though, a james taylor concert was a wonderful way to begin my
concert career :)
best to all,
carrie
remember:  melissa ferrick satuday night------bitter end, nyc 8p.m. $10

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first internationally known band i saw live was the animals with eric burdon
at a local club called the cave back in 1965.

first concert was the rolling stones at memorial auditorium in buffalo in
1966 with the standells, the mccoys, and the tradewinds.  my bass player and
i got $8.00 tickets at the door and ended up with first row balcony seats on
the right side of the stage, not 10 feet away from brian jones....

best pre-ig show was maria muldaur and eric andersen at kleinhans music hall
circa 1976, when midnight at the oasis was big.....

tim

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>so - now i'm wondering something else of all of you in list land. what was
>your first rock/folk/pop concert? where and when etc...
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mine was the cure as well...on the wish tour in dayton ohio...

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my brother is very ill...i need everybody to pray to whatever  god or
higher being you believe in.
please, he needs everyones support...
thanks......carrie

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okay, so i know we've gone through this before, but...i'm looking to
purchase a cd burner, and i was wondering what all you experienced burner
people would recommend. i have a pc with a 4 gig hard drive (about 1 gig is
free right now).

anyway, i'd appreciate some help! thanks!! :)

shannon

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hkf's,
tonight i saw caroline aiken for the first time.  i go to school in
carrollton, ga, for all of you who don't know it is a little redneck town
with cows and farmland and that is about all.  at least i'm only an hour
away from atlanta.  anyways, she played at this little place here.  it was
like a house or something.  it was really small and there were only about 25
people there.  after always hearing you guys rave about her i am glad that i
finally got a chance to see her.  she was really great.  i got her cd "live
at the attic" in which our lovely girls sing with her on a track or two.  so
the night was a big plus.  i just had to share this with someone and i
thought if anyone would care it might be some of you.  so thanks for taking
the time to read this.

take care,
heather

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my aunt took me to see diana ross in chicago in...oh...must have been 1980.

my first concert on my own was what was then known as "miami sound machine"
(gloria estefan) in 1987.

mis

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in a message dated 12/2/1999 2:51:09 pm pacific standard time,
aeig2317@hotmail.com writes:

> hey everybody,
>  something i was pondering...
>  anyone have any ideas why the prices are higher (but the kids still selling
>  lemonade) for the merchandise at the shows and so much cheaper on indigo
>  girls direct?? hm.

hmmm...have you looked at what they're charging for shipping?  that's usually
where the online people getcha.  i haven't been to the site yet to check the
stuff out, but i'm guessing that with the added shipping charges, the concert
and online prices probably cancel each other out.  i'm gonna go take a
look-see and find out...i'm curious now. ;)

mis

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in a message dated 12/2/99 8:00:04 pm est, emilyraliers@aol.com writes:

<< >  as for the "girl bands"
>  well, they seem to get more of a mix.  boys that think they're "hot"
>  and girls that want to be them.
i'm a boy who wants to be them
<[:o) >>

and i'm a girl who thinks they're hot;)

pax, celeste

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lets see, my first concert was... oh my good ness. my first 3 concerts were
those free jobbies where all the hip cool christian artists come together in
4's and 5's and play for the first half, the some guy comes and tells to you
accept christ in the second half. i wasn't a christian, and i'mm still not. i
think i went to them because some christian friends of mine called me up and
asked me if i wanted to go to a free concert that day, playing on my
spontinaity.

then my first concert concert was bb king, last year... and my first rock show
was ig in october. can you believe it?

oh well, crawling back under my rock now,
meredith

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for all you people who bash mp3s, i really don't know what you are talking
about.  i find an artist, i get really adicted, i buy all their cds.  i've
already shelled out 45 bucks for all the rage cds. but i'm not saying this
to start a fight or anything, just an observation i have found to be true
for me.

speaking of addiction and buying cds.  can anyone tell me how i can get my
hands on some dar williams cds?  is she indie or not?  any recommendations
for the cd you most like?

thanks (back to the evil research paper),
julie ;-)

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well my first rock show was billy joel!!!  where the hell is my piano man
these days anyways?  i haven't seen or heard anything from him in ages....

wondering aimlessly,
annie

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at 09:06 pm 12/2/1999 -0500, indigo mel wrote:
>umm... new kids on the block in 1990.
>and then paula abdul in '91.
>
>i know they don't count.  :p
>i guess ani difranco in '97 was my first 'real' concert.
>
>i know i'm not the only exnkotb fan out there...
>:op

heh . . .
heh . . .
*nervous chuckle*  no, you certainly weren't, because i was the most
notorious kid in my elementary school as far as nkotb fanhood went.  (no
joke.  i wore the hangin' tough tour jacket to school every day for two
years, regardless of temperature.)  fortunately, i've long since outgrown
that phase of my life!  (insert sigh of relief here.)

first concert . . . gods, that would be debbie gibson's "electric youth"
tour back in 1988.  (my youth is showing.  i know.)  i never really got a
chance to go to concerts much, though--my next concert was amy grant's
"heart in motion" tour in '91.

first *real* rock concert, though, would've been, well . . . ig at lilith
fair '98.  if that doesn't count, then seeing them on the cons tour in
october.  i told you i didn't get out much.


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<<  i am often asked if i am
gay, when wearing indigo girls shirts or talking about my musical tastes, as
if one must be to like the things i like...
vesper >>

yep vesper - i get this all the time..especially from guys that i don't want
to date...

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>first concert . . . gods, that would be debbie gibson's "electric youth"
>tour back in 1988.


you got to see debbie gibson in concert? i would have killed for that
opportunity at one point. my first concert was nkotb as well but(!!!) i
hated them. my best friend was in love with jon ( spelled without an 'h',
mind you) and begged me to go with her. she paid so i figured what the
hell.

my first real concert.... melissa ethridge maybe?

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<< so - now i'm wondering something else of all of you in list land. what was
your first rock/folk/pop concert? where and when etc...
  >>

good question! :) well, there appear to be certain things in my family that
are heriditary..shot glass collecting, the inability to keep real plants
alive (i used to tell people that my mother even killed the fake ones...) and
concert-going... i don't remember how old i was...it was 84 i think so i must
have been 8 or 9 and my mom took me to a barry manilow concert (and yes, i
know exactly what you are thinking, but barry manilow kicks some serious ass
- i still love him :) ) my mom has seen barry i think at least 40 times - me
9 i think... so my sister was never a barry fan and my dad's not into
concerts so i used to go with mom whenever she went. we saw bruce springsteen
in 86 ... then during the 80's when i was into hard rock - lol - like bon
jovi, cinderella, lots of hair bands...my mom used to take me and my sister
and our friends since either i couldn't drive yet or else cause she was
afraid to let us go alone...my sister and stopped going with my mom when we
started listening to better music - ig, tori, melissa... (although my mom
does like melissa but my sister and i were afraid she'd be too overwhelmed by
a melissa crowd...) in 96 though, i took my mom to tori with me since my
sister couldn't go and my mom liked her and then we saw tracy chapman in 96
too and my mom really liked tracy...so it was definitely cool since my mom is
still kinda not into my music...it was neat that she went with me and
appreciated the artists... she's not really into the girls but i think she is
coming around a bit. when i first started listening to them in 92 i think she
thought it would be a passing thing (like the heavy metal), but since it's
not she seems to be a lot more respectful to the girls..she sends me
newspaper clippings of shows from florida :) it's funny too, cause now that
i'm older (26) i have a lot more respect for my parents...

:) lisa

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in a message dated 12/2/99 8:15:56 pm pacific standard time, iudoremi@aol.com
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> i have to say though, a james taylor concert was a wonderful way to begin my
>  concert career :)
>  best to all,
i guess james taylor is ok, at least he was in the same mental hospital as
sylvia plath...but he ruined carole king's youve got a friend..i liked it a
lot better on her tapestry album, just her and a piano

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i would recommend the yamaha 6x burner...it works very well for me(when i go
to my brother's house to use it)  everything depends on $...you will have to
spend about $400 for the drive and related software...there are others out
there cheaper if you want slower...brands you don't know i would generally
make sure you have a really good warranty
vesper

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in a message dated 12/2/99 11:36:58 pm pacific standard time,
n1910493@sparrow.qut.edu.au writes:

> well my first rock show was billy joel!!!  where the hell is my piano man
>  these days anyways?  i haven't seen or heard anything from him in ages....
billy did a great version of leonard cohen's light as the breeze on the cohen
tribute album...he has kinda retired from the music business.

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my first concert was paul simon back in 6th grade -- so that was, ummmmmmm, almost 10 years ago.

:-) karen

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does anyone have the chords to thin line??   i am really looking for emily's
part.  the lead part or solo that is.....i tried the solo on the ig song
website not adams chords but the other one.....anyway it doesn't sound
correct to me but i could be wrong......

thanks
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hey--i was listening to wxrt today in chicago--the station that has always
played ig and always sponsored their shows in town.  i got wind of an
auction that was taking place tonight called christmas for kids.  after a
few phone calls at work i found out where it was taking place and that i
could actually attend.  so margaret and i stroll into this poshy auction at
the park west full of people i would probably never be seen with otherwise.
they are auctioning off all kinds of musical items signed by the artists.
elite models parade the item around (one model really needed a few more
meals in her--eat woman eat!!!) and the bidding begins.  so after an hour
or so of items being auctioned off the item of all our dreams come to the
stage.  being auctioned is a private indigo girls concert for the highest
bidder and 9 of their closest friends.  the event would take place on the
same day they play the chicago theater this sunday.  the auction included
the performance, 4 front row tix to the actual show and a chance for all to
have items autographed.  i swear i was willing to pay big bucks for this--i
said going in--ok i'll stop bidding at like 300 bucks max.  the auctioneer
begins--ok we'll start the bids at 400, do i hear 400. oh well for me.  i
actually had visions in my head of bidding up to 2000 dollars and was
brainstorming about how i could justify it and then pay it off.   long
story short a woman buys the package for a mere 4 grand!  all proceeds to
charity.  a truly memorable evening.  i wish i was rich!  what a great
chance that would have been.

out of curiosity--what would people have been willing to pay here for such
an experience?  if i had known about the details earlier, i would have
posted and pooled 10 different people's contributions into a bid.  would
have been just 400 bucks each :).  humor me--would 10 people have been
willing to pay that much?  i guess it's a moot point.  see y'all at the
show on sunday.  very excited!

greg

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hey everyone..
i *really* apologise for having to send this email as i know these emails
are annoying.. but going away in a few hours and i am so rushed and can't
find how to unsubscribe. i won't be able to check email till feb. .. um, if
someone could just go ahead and unsubscribe me for now that'd be excellent..
otherwise if someone could email me or something with instructions i'd
appreciate it!

also.. if anyone happens to be in perth, australia.. i'll be performing in
the show "anne of green gables" until february.. i'd love to meet up with
fellow listees!!

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hey y'all

chicago has one of the few daily drivetime lesbigaytrans radio programs
(lesbigay radio/chicago - am 1240/1470 5:00 - 7:00 p.m. mon.-fri.) and they
are talking with emily today!!!!! i got this off their website:
http://www.lesbigayradio.com/index2.php3


"5:25 join us for a discussion and music with emily of the indigo girls!"

looks like you can listen in on the web! isn't the internet great!

i am so psyched for the concert!

michele

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all these postings are bringing back a memories of the mosaic of concerts
i have attended.  this first would have been the doobie brothers in 1968
or there abouts. i do like to joke about being at expo '67 in montreal
around the time the dead were playing (my first concert) but i would have
been 5 and spent more time trying to find a bandaid and talking to mickey
mouse on the phone than listenng to the ambient noise. here's a few
others..
i had forgotten about peter frampton until someone mentioned barry
manilow, cheap trick, supertramp, the stones, way too many blues artists
to mention, the dead way too many concerts to mention, ig, burton
cummings, the tragically hip (friends) before they made any waves, moist
(friends again) before they were moist, csn, bob dylan, joni mitchell,
tantric monks the real thing in nyc with mickey hart, phillip glass, and
kyoto (sp?) very cool, lilith (sarah, jewel, joan, shawn etc...)phish,
dmb, and a plethora of others....unfortunately the 90"s have been
relatively devoid of concerts only a couple a year:(
back to my hole
c

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and people say money can't buy happiness... it can some sure damn
close...lmao, oh to be rich
peace and love,
            carrie

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        >>anyone have any ideas why the prices are higher (but the kids
still selling
> lemonade) for the merchandise at the shows and so much cheaper on indigo
> girls direct?? <<
>
        yeah, the guys at the table get a cut, and so does the venue.  (at
least that's how it was when my band was playing bigger venues...) so at the
shows, you pay more.  when you buy from the site, the artist gets a bigger
cut - like anything.

        if you buy indie stuff - it's always better to get it direct from
the artist if you can.  like my disc - i sell 'em for $10, and if you buy it
at a show, well, actually at shows i sell 'em for 5.... but the point is, i
get to keep all the profit.  if you buy my disc at tower records, it costs
$12.99, and i only get $5. so always *always* buy direct from the artist if
you can.  cut out the corporate middlemen!

        -tara

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major impact!  paul simon was out-youknowwhat-standing last night on the si sports awards show.  he did boxer and they were panning to ali during the song...he was in rare form too.  looking cool! i taped it.

jude :)

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hi all,

my first concert was sting in 1987 i was in seventh
grade.

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had to jump in on this one.

my first official concert was ig!!!! i was 17, swamp ophelia tour,
nashville, tn, balcony seats, 1994. a&e looked like itty bitty ants from up
there.

now... when i was about 5, i did get to see barbara mandrell... so that
doesn't count, because i don't remember the concert.

spoiled in ig-land,

joanne

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my first concert was nkotb as well - december of 1990 or 91...the year is
fuzzy at the moment cause i haven't finished my coffee. :p

but i am -not- an ex-new kids fan.  i was never one to go with the flow so
when everyone else dissed them because they were uncool, i was still proud
of what i liked and still am to this day.  they are a part of my history
(my growing up) - why would i deny that?

*heh*

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so i always miss the girls, right?
they are planning to tour japan?!?!?!?  after i leave japan??!??!!?  i'll be back in japan this summer though -- just in time to miss the honor the earth tour as well.
maybe once they do japan once, they'll come back?!?!?
geez...i really hope i get to see them at least once more!

:-) karen

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on fri, 3 dec 1999 02:08:05    automatic digest processor wrote:
>there are 12 messages totalling 502 lines in this issue.
>
>topics in this special issue:
>
>  1. vh1 & boy/girl bands (2)
>  2. vh1 stuff (igc)
>  3. interview outtakes
>  4. cons rocks if you're an old broad
>  5. first rock shows (5)
>  6. fwd: new stuff
>  7. 1st rock shows
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>date:    thu, 2 dec 1999 15:52:01 -0800
>from:    jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
>subject: re: vh1 & boy/girl bands
>
>>>drawing gender lines for musical creation only makes sense, to me,
>when it involves the vocal range of the singers.  otherwise, you end up
>with the problem of true artists only finding same-gender audiences,
>which sucks.<<
>
>i don't like the gender line thing in artistic endeavors either.  but i
>think though that the so called "boy bands" like n'synch get a
>cross-gender audience (ie mostly women) because that is how they are
>marketed... as cute male teenage heart throbs.  as for the "girl bands"
>well, they seem to get more of a mix.  boys that think they're "hot"
>and girls that want to be them.
>
>one of the things that i appreciate about ig is that they do get the
>young teenage girls, but they also get teenage boys and adults of all
>gender identities :)  for the most part they have a nice universal
>appeal.
>
>jean
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--- graham ames <mcgee@oregontrail.net> wrote:
>> the icky thing about that is, there's a huge difference between
>> manufactured "bands" like n'synch or spice girls, and groups like ig
>> or
>> pearl jam.  the one is created to be marketed, and responds to the
>> market like a commodity, the other creates itself, and if it happens
>> to
>> find a niche for sales, then fine.
>>
>> drawing gender lines for musical creation only makes sense, to me,
>> when
>> it involves the vocal range of the singers.  otherwise, you end up
>> with
>> the problem of true artists only finding same-gender audiences, which
>> sucks.
>>
>> jean moses wrote:
>>
>> > actually, i hear it all the time.  "boy bands" are bands like
>> n'synch
>> > and back street boys.  <g>  i'm not fond of them, but thay are out
>> > there.
>>
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>date:    thu, 2 dec 1999 19:55:54 est
>from:    vesper evensong <emilyraliers@aol.com>
>subject: re: vh1 stuff (igc)
>
>in a message dated 12/2/99 3:44:55 pm pacific standard time,
>mcgee@oregontrail.net writes:
>
>> the icky thing about that is, there's a huge difference between
>>  manufactured "bands" like n'synch or spice girls, and groups like ig or
>>  pearl jam.  the one is created to be marketed, and responds to the
>>  market like a commodity, the other creates itself, and if it happens to
>>  find a niche for sales, then fine.
>>
>>  drawing gender lines for musical creation only makes sense, to me, when
>>  it involves the vocal range of the singers.  otherwise, you end up with
>>  the problem of true artists only finding same-gender audiences, which
>>  sucks.
>thanks, you said that better than i could have
>pax
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>date:    thu, 2 dec 1999 19:58:00 est
>from:    vesper evensong <emilyraliers@aol.com>
>subject: re: vh1 & boy/girl bands
>
>in a message dated 12/2/99 4:15:17 pm pacific standard time,
>sneakyjean@yahoo.com writes:
>
>>  as for the "girl bands"
>>  well, they seem to get more of a mix.  boys that think they're "hot"
>>  and girls that want to be them.
>i'm a boy who wants to be them
><[:o)
>
>
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>light the embers of another
>and the night won't seem so rough
>sister...
>
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>
>date:    thu, 2 dec 1999 20:11:06 est
>from:    lisalisaa@aol.com
>subject: interview outtakes
>
>as promised, leftover stuff from my interview with amy ray that didnt make it
>into or got cut from the sonicnet story. thanks again for question
>suggestions:
>
>on the new album:
>
>this record was important to me because it is an evolution and a progression
>in the electronic realm but it also harkens back to our earlier stuff, some
>of the folkier stuff and i really wanted to do that. we wanted to make an
>acoustic record but we didnt have enough straight acoustic stuff to fill up
>album.
>and then we met john and the band at lilith and we started jamming with them
>and sinead. he invited emily and i over -- he said lets play a little bit in
>england and we went over there. we just recorded in his apartment, where he
>had a studio and that was really cool...john brought out the sound i was
>looking for in my electric stuff that i havent been able to find. i needed to
>be able to just sit there by myself and play and work it out and he was
>really patient with me.
>
>
>
>on "ozilline," her grandmother and dealing with the difficult subject of
>death:
>
>it's been a hard year for us. weve had a lot of losses. the thing about my
>grandmother...she's 94. the thing about her is she is a fiery woman you know.
>my grandmother is like a lesson oriented woman...she believes in lessons, in
>life lessons. she's big on that. and then there's this friend we have that's
>like family to me and she has a debilitating illness but she always puts a
>good face on it and has a positive outlook. i wanted to write about those
>things. i record my grandmother telling stories a lot because i really love
>her stories. she is a great story teller. so what's on the cd is just one of
>the tapes i have of her.
>
>
>
>on her growth as a songwriter:
>
>it's been so important for me to move beyond introversion and melodrama. you
>know.  and it's not like i'm holding myself back from writing that way. it's
>not like i still want to write that way. i dont. not at all. i really dont
>want to write that way anymore.  it has been so important to me to grow as a
>songwriter and i'm constantly working really hard on that.
>
>
>on go and the high school controversy:
>
>when those high school kids stood up for us and themselves like that it meant
>a lot to us. it helped me finish go. i had started that song awhile ago and i
>just couldnt get it to work. couldnt get it done. and then the high school
>thing happened and it all just came. those kids helped me write that song.
>
>
>
>plans for 2000:
>
>yeah we are planning to do honor the earth. it will be  early summer into
>fall. early stages of planning it now. it'll be four weeks. it's gonna be
>good. we hope to do suffergette again too. that thing last year was only the
>very beginnings of what that can be. that is a fun deal. and we're gonna try
>to play some high schools again too. planning to head to austrailia. parts of
>europe. emily has already told me she really wants to go to japan. so  that's
>a possibility.
>
>
>on how audiences are reacting to the new stuff:
>
>
>we're always really worried playing new stuff. you know, it's just natural to
>worry about it. but i tell you we've gotten the best instant response for
>this new stuff than we've ever gotten before. usually it takes some time for
>support to build, but it's been there. it's our audience being really open
>and willing and we appreciate that.
>
>
>on the breaking up question:
>
>no we're definitely not breaking up. we're at a great point right now and we
>love this band and emily and i love working together. we are polar opposites,
>but i think we inspire eachother to grow. (*at this point i said "yeah you
>know when i first listened to the record and gone again came on i thot 'wow,
>it is amy doing an emily song. and then trouble came on and i said wow it's
>emily doing an amy song. i had to check the liner notes at that point.' for
>some reason she got a big kick out of that and cracked up. then she said>)
>she's expressing herself with harder edge tunes sometimes and sometimes i'm
>writing more in the vein she usually writes. thats great. it's so good to be
>in a creative partnership where you have that kind of freedom.
>
>
>i asked her what it felt like to hear people in the audience belting out
>their lyrics during closer to fine, power of two, gone again, galileo, shame
>on you. i told her she always gets this look of amazement on her face and
>they both seem to just genuinely beam. i said " i read a blurb about you guys
>in rolling stone not too long ago and the guy wrote 'some day soon the indigo
>girls won't have to play full songs at their shows anymore. they'll just do
>the opening notes, back away from the mikes and let the audience take it from
>there." she laughed hard and said:
>
>
>that's great. he's probably right. i love it when the audience does that. it
>feels right. it feels like what music is supposed to be about. it's a
>community thing. it's like  the audience can feel like they are making some
>contribution to what's happening, like it's important for them to be there.
>you know when emily is singing her songs, i'm off to the side singing along
>on her parts, just like the audience. i understand and it's good.
>
>
>on her solo album, whether she will release it on daemon, and their future
>with epic:
>
>im going to do it(the solo album) without a doubt. i thot i was going to do
>it after this record but i ran out of time because we ran over a month. gonna
>do it on daemon. it'll be like punk and a little country....i dont know if
>epic is going to let me do it, but they've been really supportive of daemon.
>i have to go have some private corporate meeting about this eventually. i
>think we have two left with epic.you know, i dont know. emily and i are going
>to have to talk about that. emily and i have different perspectives on that.
>i would like for us to be independent but she and i have to figure that out
>together. epic is a great label and has been very good to us and everyone on
>epic has a lot of freedom, but even epic is getting more corporate....
>
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>
>date:    thu, 2 dec 1999 20:07:02 -0500
>from:    bonnie lacey <blacey@aye.net>
>subject: re: cons rocks if you're an old broad
>
>sue, you were right on target with everything you said about cons.  i
>say it's an age thing.
>
>bonnie
>
>------------------------------
>
>date:    thu, 2 dec 1999 20:12:09 -0500
>from:    susan brill <susan.brill@yale.edu>
>subject: first rock shows
>
>at 08:38 am 12/2/99 -0500, listserve wrote:
>>i think ig has been a great influence on my son. he has been a fan for 3 or
>>4 years of ig. he is 9 now.
>
>i think it's great that you take your son to ig shows, and that he is
>growing up with the influence of such a great mom. what a precious response
>he had about kissing!
>
>so - now i'm wondering something else of all of you in list land. what was
>your first rock/folk/pop concert? where and when etc...
>
>mine was elton john in 1975 ('76?) in philadelphia. i was 11, i'm pretty
>sure. elton john was my first musical obsession - i collected all his
>albums up to about 1978 or so. i begged to go to that concert so my dad
>took me and my younger sister. dad wasn't really a fan, even elton john was
>more rock oriented than he liked (dad was more of a nat king cole kind of
>guy), but he ended up liking it.
>
>i saw a few other shows with friends (not dad) in the next couple of years,
>but i think it was 1978 when we convinced dad to take us and some
>delinquent boys to see a boston concert. i'm afraid dad didn't enjoy that
>very much, and i didn't go to too many concerts for a while after that!. i
>felt bad for dad because he didn't enjoy loud electric sounds and he'd
>never been exposed to the drugs that were everywhere at that show. a
>teenager sitting next to dad tried to offer him a joint, and we were almost
>hauled out of there at that moment. (i've read since then that the founder
>and creative force of boston (tom ??) was a master's level mit grad in ee
>and he hated all the drugs at the concerts. if only dad knew that at the
>time i might have been able to go to the springsteen concert the next year!)
>
>so which were y'all's first concerts? did your parents go with you?
>
>-sue
>looking forward to taking dad to an ig show
>
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>
>date:    thu, 2 dec 1999 20:19:12 -0500
>from:    mark lichtenberger <mlichten@nortelnetworks.com>
>subject: re: first rock shows
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>my first concert was dionne warwick at the blossom music center in ohio...
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>date:    thu, 2 dec 1999 20:24:35 est
>from:    vesper evensong <emilyraliers@aol.com>
>subject: re: first rock shows
>
>pink floyd 1977-animals tour
>incredible
>
>------------------------------------
>
>set your site up in the headlight
>the moon won't be enough
>light the embers of another
>and the night won't seem so rough
>sister...
>
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>date:    thu, 2 dec 1999 20:32:45 -0500
>from:    debbie woodell <woodeld@phillynews.com>
>subject: re: first rock shows
>
>fairport convention, 1973, glassboro state college, nj. the opening act who canceled because of sickness: bruce springsteen.
>
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>
>date:    thu, 2 dec 1999 20:29:06 -0500
>from:    bonnie lacey <blacey@aye.net>
>subject: re: fwd: new stuff
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>thank you tim for that very zen comment!  i agree with you completely.
>i am not much of an artsy person like the girls are, and to me, they are
>creative geniuses.  yes i love the old stuff. yes i love the new stuff.
>but the seeds of the new stuff can be found in the very old stuff, and
>vice versa.  ah.
>
><some people like change, some don't, but performing artists have to
>continually reinvent themselves or risk being swept aside by the tide,
>or
>worse, losing interest in performing.  amy and emily are wonderful
>examples of creative people pushing themselves
>to the limit in a never ceasing effort to better themselves.  they've
>never
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>but the seeds of the new stuff can be found in the very old stuff, and
>vice versa.  ah.
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>date:    thu, 2 dec 1999 19:37:58 -0600
>from:    jason lee <jasonlee@exp.net>
>subject: re: first rock shows
>
>the cure, the woodlands pavilion.  1992.
>
>jason lee
>
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>sent: thursday, december 02, 1999 7:32 pm
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>
>
>> fairport convention, 1973, glassboro state college, nj. the opening act
>who canceled because of sickness: bruce springsteen.
>>
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>date:    thu, 2 dec 1999 21:06:20 est
>from:    indigo mel <melijoy@aol.com>
>subject: 1st rock shows
>
>umm... new kids on the block in 1990.
>and then paula abdul in '91.
>
>i know they don't count.  :p
>i guess ani difranco in '97 was my first 'real' concert.
>
>i know i'm not the only exnkotb fan out there...
>:op
>mel
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i am reeally really really sorry that i accidently forgot to delete the entire digest before sending out my prvious e-mail.

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but i am -not- an ex-new kids fan.  i was never one to go with the flow so
when everyone else dissed them because they were uncool, i was still proud
of what i liked and still am to this day.  they are a part of my history (my
growing up) - why would i deny that?
*heh*
--audra

>>>>>>>>

oh my.. in the 8th grade, i started an anti-nkotb campaign. i hated them all
the way through my little being, after my sister played "please don't go
girl," for the millionth time. remember  "new kids got run over by a
reindeer?"

ahh... those were the days. now, i'm 23, and my 13 year old sister loves the
backstreet boys. thank heavens she lives in kansas.

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my first "rock" concert - rod stewart in las cruces, nm.  amazing.  soccer
balls and all.

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on thu, 2 dec 1999, indigo mel wrote:

> umm... new kids on the block in 1990.
> and then paula abdul in '91.
>
> i know they don't count.  :p
> i guess ani difranco in '97 was my first 'real' concert.
>
> i know i'm not the only exnkotb fan out there...
> :op
> mel
>

no, you're most definitely not.  ;)  the only time i saw nkotb in concert
was the same year (nkotb, tommy page, and some other group in horrible
heat with like 70k other teenage girls), and saw paula abdul the same year
as you as well.<cue scary music> even worse, i had like 8th row seats for
vanilla ice, not to mention that ever-so-brief color me badd phase.

first rock concert:  reo speedwagon with cheap trick as an opener on the
wheels are turning tour.

kelly,
exposing my musical skeletons. :)

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>date:    fri, 3 dec 1999 17:35:04 +1000
>from:    anne maynes <n1910493@sparrow.qut.edu.au>
>subject: re: first rock shows

>well my first rock show was billy joel!!!  where the hell is my piano man
>these days anyways?  i haven't seen or heard anything from him in ages....

>wondering aimlessly,
>annie

>               "when the winds blow things round and back again,
>                  what was once your pain wil be your home"
>                               -emily saliers

billy joel is still playing shows, i've seen him a four times over the last
few years and he still hasn't lost anything.  i will be ringing in the new
millennium with billy at madison square garden, new york city, on 12/31!!

as for my first concert, it was 'til tuesday at salem state college, salem,
ma in 1986, i was a freshman in high school.  it was a great show and got me
started in my love of live music.  since then i have been to over 200+ shows
from a wide spectrum of artists.  some highlights below:

grateful dead -- 25 shows!!  i miss them more and more every day.
indigo girls -- 13 shows and still going strong
paul simon  -- rhytmh of the saints tour, still one of my favorite shows of
all time
lynyrd skynyrd -- 5 times  (love that southern rock!)
moxy fruvous --  5 times (my new favorites!!! check them out if you get a
chance!!)
neil young  -- solo acoustic -- one of my favorite shows
rem -- 4 times
bruce hornsby  -- 6 times, at least
bruce springsteen -- need i say more, if you haven't seen him live -- go see
him!
bob dylan -- 2 times, many people think he's washed up, but i saw him twice
in the few years and he rocked the house!!
csny -- haven't seen them yet, but just got tix for nashville in march!
thanks diane!!!  this show will complete my list of "bands i need to see
before i die"

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don't know if this is at all tied to indigo girls shows...but the 2
michelles are performing some shows together in the midwest this weekend.
that would be michelle penn and michelle malone.  michelle p should be
nearing a release date on her new cd any day now, so if anyone feels like
attending, and maybe even taping her set, i just can't even begin to
express how happy that'd make me.  but even without taping equipment, these
shows should be fabulous.  enjoy...  marivel

friday, december 3    cincinatti, oh      bullfishes    with michelle malone
saturday, december 4     chicago, il      stargaze    with michelle malone

                              and my mind told my heart there is no
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>they end up repeeating themselves,  "but i just don't understand. i mean
>i don't go out and say
>i'm hetero. why should they come on out and say they're gay."  i say to
>tem, "well you're not
>in the minority either. you're not te one who gets  targetted for
>mistreated.  it's okay  if you
>and your family kiss and hold hands out on the street.  but if you're
>gay you could  get shot and killed. "

well, there's that, and then there's also the point that, indeed, they do
come out and say they are heterosexual.  they file married tax returns.
they hold hands in public.  they introduce their sos as their "husbands" or
"wives."  they do kiss on the street.  they "look" straight.  and the list
goes on and on....  everyone displays a sexuality, whether it's recognized
as such or not.

chris ii

>
>they won't admitt they are being irrational at all.
>ibut since they are older adults, who wants to
>listen  to me i'm just more in sync with the times,  i guess.
>
>
>peace
>
>barb  :-)
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hkf's,

can't hold back any longer...  especially w/ the mention of the dead...  and
just live music in general...

1st show: billy joel (yep, me too) maybe in 6th or 7th grade w/ my friend
and our mom's (makes me a little ill thinkin' about that - hehe).

after that - mike's poser-metal-era
1st: motely crew w/ warrant opening
then: metallica (2), skid row, aerosmith, kiss, slaughter... (need i go
on...)

after that - mike's hippie-folk-rock-era (continues into the present)
dead - 2 times
ratdog - 3 times
furthur festival - 2 times
bruce hornsby - 1 time (lady with a fan...)
zen tricksters, dark star orchestra, jazz is dead, swammi gone bananas,
etc... many dead tribute bands...  not fade away...
phish - 18 times
widespread panic - 8 times
god street wine - 5 times
blues traveler - 4 times
john popper band - 1 time
black crowes - 3 times
dave matthews - 2 times
neil young - 2 times
cnsy (march 2000)
(plus chris cornell, pearl jam, creed, galactic, disco biscuits,
strangefolk, samples, ancient harmony... & many more)

then onto folk-ish-women...
ig - 16 times
lilith - 5 times
kristin hersh, melissa ferrick, caroline aiken, michelle malone, beth wood,
rose polenzani, dar williams, cry cry cry, ani difranco, commondbond...
others: jewel, sarah, tori, shawn c., merredith brooks, sheryl crow, alanis
m., natalie, ... plus many, many more...

life is all about planning for the next show, for the next high, for the
next moment when we get a chance to hear the music...

a+e=ig

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there are excerpts from an interview with amy ray on the curve magazine
website.  http://www.curvemag.com   it's the purple box at the bottom of
the page, but the link for the full interview isn't working:(
carrie

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on wed, 1 dec 1999, susan brill wrote:

> i sort of wish i hadn't done that. see, i think i have always been trapped
> in the idea that i needed to become an expert in something before i was
> qualified to do it (so here i am in school at 35!). as far as songwriting
> goes, i decided i'd better know everything about theory so i wouldn't break
> any rules, and i'd better become highly skilled on an instrument so i'd
> have lots of range to express varied musical ideas, and i'd better get
> pretty good at poetry and creative writing so my lyrics wouldn't suck.

   i think i happened the opposite way.  i wrote a lot of poetry, and
happened to have a friend who's a guitar prodigy.  one day we were just
goofing around, and somebody said, "hey, let's start a band."  which was
cool, except i needed to play something, and clarinet/sax just wasn't rock
'n' roll enough for a 17 year old.  (note: having realized the godliness
that is clarence clemons from the 3rd row of a springsteen show, i have to
recant that statement now, but i was young, kay?)
   my problem was always a matter of discipline -- jamming with joe was a
great thing, because he's a theory wonk, and i'm a lot looser, so the two
of us kept each other in check.

> so after that long-winded intro, here's my question! how do you folks out
> there approach the song-writing process?

   i think it all happens differently depending on the situation.  since i
came to college, i became depressed and starved for collaboration -- which
wasn't happening -- the decent instrumentalists i met had problems playing
nice with others, and the other interested people were very limited in
either scope or quality.  ("dude, i wanna play some, like, dave
matthews.  so what's this string do?...")
   so i invested a crapload of money and legwork in building a small but
quality project studio, complete with an isolation booth easily erected in
the bathroom.  (oh, the gags -- dubbed, naturally, "studio p.")
   sometimes i'll just come up with a hook, a riff, something catchy, and
jot it down.  (hopefully - god knows how much i've forgotten for lack of a
portable tape recorder)  if it's a lyric, i'll write as much as i can
honestly and then let it stew for a few months, lest anything sound
contrived.

   from a musical approach, there's generally an instrument i hear
first.  usually it's guitar, since that's what i play, but sometimes it's
keyboard or strings or a drum track to the sound of a hockey stick
impacting my roommate's head because he never takes out the trash in
triplets at 120bpm.  whatever it is, i'll record that first.  ("no, that
take sucked!  hold still while i sample it again!")
   then i'll just go crazy from there.  if it sucks, it can always be
deleted -- the beauty of digital, and having the freedom to experiment
leads me to new, albeit often bizarre places.  a lot of the stuff ends up
being pedantic, like playing slide guitar over a heavy james hetfield
rhythm track with chinese yak-skin timpanis banging in the
background.  (remarkably cool.  if metallica ever plays with a symphony,
you heard it here fir...oh, damn.)

   i like to separate the writing and instrumental processes, because if i
don't, i'll fall into repetitious chord progressions and rhythms.  so when
i'm goofing around in the studio, i'll say, "whoa!  that would go nicely
with that hook i wrote 6 months ago!"  tweak the lyrics a bit, and
bang.  well, it would be like that if i could sing, at least...  ;)

   that was long.  i'm going to do work now.

   darius

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on fri, 3 dec 1999 grrrly4354@aol.com wrote:

> in a message dated 12/2/99 8:00:04 pm est, emilyraliers@aol.com writes:
>
> << >  as for the "girl bands"
>  >  well, they seem to get more of a mix.  boys that think they're "hot"
>  >  and girls that want to be them.
>  i'm a boy who wants to be them
>  <[:o) >>
>
> and i'm a girl who thinks they're hot;)
>
> pax, celeste
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hell does that mean? :0)

amy m.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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*write 'em in* !
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>you got to see debbie gibson in concert? i would have killed for that
>opportunity at one point.

i can top that!  tiffany played at my high school...1988/89, was it?  we won
one of those radio promotions by sending in a ton of postcards.

as for first concerts, i saw a couple songs of the beach boys (who were
playing a corporate party for my dad's company) when i was in elementary
school, before i got bored and pleaded for someone to take me to the ferris
wheel...and, not counting that, or tiffany, the first "concert" concert that
i went to was the girls in berkeley, august of 1994.

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>don't know if this is at all tied to indigo girls shows...but the 2
>michelles are performing some shows together in the midwest this weekend.

michelle malone will also be opening for the girls on sunday at the chicago
theatre.

:),
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on fri, 3 dec 1999, amy m. wrote:

> > and i'm a girl who thinks they're hot;)
>
> and i'm a self-proclaimed dyke who thinks the boy bands are hot! what the
> hell does that mean? :0)

   i'm in utter awe of boy bands and their amazing power to manipulate
folding chairs.  (true believers, you know of what i speak...)

   darius

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well i work at walmart.... (which, btw, in canada offers same sex
benefits.... don't know about us though) and live through the hoades of junk
on walmart radio assured that i will hear ig with peace tonight and melissa
with angels will fall, once a night

... now if they could just get rid of the christmas music starting in
october....

shak

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ok, can you keep a secret (she said to over
1,000 people over the internet).

i think mine was shaun cassidy -- oh, i'm so
embarrased - and i know i was over 20 because
i'm 39 now.

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hey

carrie mentioned a blurb about ig at curve online--alas it's an old
interview (already published in curve) from the sots era.  but with the new
album, they should have some coverage in there soon, eh?

and the text is online, just linked improperly:
http://www.curvemag.com/stories/indigogirlsqa.html

luv
h, who strives for igc at all times.  ;)
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on fri, 3 dec 1999, h wrote:

> hey
>
> carrie mentioned a blurb about ig at curve online--alas it's an old
> interview (already published in curve) from the sots era.  but with the new
> album, they should have some coverage in there soon, eh?
>
> and the text is online, just linked improperly:
> http://www.curvemag.com/stories/indigogirlsqa.html
>
> luv
> h, who strives for igc at all times.  ;)
> http://www.angelfire.com/ma/artemis9

especially since mle has a nice cover and article in this month's
issue....

totally pointless $.02,
kelly

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mine was the kinks... tommy shaw from styx was opening for them
promoting his first solo album girls with guns.  <g>  i remember it
vividly.

jean (showing my age....)

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my very first non-classical concert?  donnie & marie.  (i kid you not.)

i've seen a lot of groups over the years, from pearl jam to rush (8x in
the 80s) to amy grant (and other xian artists) to u2...  probably close
to 100 shows in all.  and believe it or not, the absolutely best show i
have ever seen was barry manilow's paradise cafe tour, in las cruces,
nm, in 1984 or 1985.  no warm-up act, just him and his band.  for 4 1/2
hours, he made a sell-out crowd of about 13,000 feel like he was giving
a private show in someone's living room.  he chatted with the audience,
he took requests, he ran the full gamut of his styles from big showy
numbers to quiet, introspective ones.  he did a rendition of "read 'em
and weep" which not only brought me (and everyone i could see) to tears,
but also received a ten minute standing ovation.  and that wasn't even
at the end of his show, that was just for that one song.

i've talked to 3 other people who were at that show, have even heard
rumors that it was one of the best nights of that tour for barry.  it's
strange, with all the shows i've seen before and since, that that is the
one that will probably always be on top.

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> my very first non-classical concert?  donnie & marie.  (i kid you not.)

wow! i'm purple with envy (like donny's socks).

my first concert:

rita coolidge & kris kristofferson
kleinhans, buffalo, ny 1977 or 1978

and, in honor of graham's first concert, i must confess that my first
album was:

donny osmond, "my best to you"
oh how i longed for those red, white and blue bell bottoms.

-bon

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hi,

i have an extra melissa etheridge ticket for the san francisco show.  i
am selling it for $75 which is face value for the ticket, without the
fee.  i am a member of mein so the ticket is guaranteed to be a good
seat, but how good i won't know until the night of the show when i pick
them up at the box office.

if anyone is interested in this ticket please let me know! :)

jean


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is there a kind soul out there who can help me with napster?

cindy

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anybody have any luck getting this radio station over the net? i can't
figure it out...i went to the site, but i can't find any way to listen. if
anyone can help i'd be very appreciative.
lia

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due to some pretty heavy corporately-nightmarish stuff here at work (i may
or may not be restructured into suburbia, in which case i have to quit), i
have not had a chance to do anything about a chicago listmeet.  aarggh.  so,
um, i'm the tall girl with chin-length shaggy brown hair and a black purse
with butterflies.  maybe i'll see you.

sorry i couldn't do more.

p.s.  anyone looking for a really good secretary?

shel

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if any one wants to chill with my girlfriend and i sometime sunday before the
show, i would be happy to plan something.  maybe lunch or dinner somewhere?
i'm much more familiar with lakeview and andersonville (etc) than i am with
the loop, so maybe meeting on the north side would be a good idea.
also, on saturday, i probably will be at stargaze to see michelle
malone...so...it you're there, say hi.  (i'll be the tall, dark and
good-looking one....<g>)

email me if you are interested...
and shel....that sucks.  if there's anything a 19 year old college student
can do for you, i'm here....
-melly in the burbs

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well once again, i'm stuck, i got the offer for
tix sent out over the list, but apparently tey just got up and walked
off after putting it out.
and they didn't get back to me until now.


i am willing to pay full price, for any ticket  n
now  and no i'm not asking  anyone to part
with a ticket they  want.  i'm jst saying if there is an extra ticket
nobody  can use.......here i  am.

peace

barb

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carrie wrote:
<< and people say money can't buy happiness... it can some sure damn
close...lmao, oh to be rich >>

ditto girlfriend...i figure if i ever win the lotto i'm going to buy a big
winnebago and me and the cats are going to go on tour..following the ig and
tori..plus if i was rich i could afford melissa etheridge tickets :( anyone
have any extra tickets they want to give away at a ridiculously low price for
the sf or sac concerts?? lol. just checking :)

in 95 i paid $250 for 6th row ig seats and backstage passes for the hte tour
in phoenix- all proceeds going to the guacamole fund :) oh yeah, plus $200 to
fly my sister out from nh to go with me :) all worth it, of course :)

lisa :)

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just an fyi - yes coverage of the current tour and album are coming,
although i'm not sure curve is doing anything (i heard they had an
interview with the igs when the tour came through sf, but amy told me when
i interviewed her that she hadn't spoken with curve since 97).

i do know that another outstanding lesbian mag -- which shall for now
remain nameless -- will have an extensive interview with them in coming
months, as will the fabulous mother jones magazine. i know these things
because i wrote them both! so do keep your eyes peeled!

--brooke

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well i'm totally bummed--no emily due to technical problems. i called the
radio station and that's all they could tell me. oh well...still can't wait
for sunday!

michele

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on thu, 2 dec 1999, vesper evensong wrote:

> something is disturbing to me about being put in a category such as "girl
> bands," but i cannot quite put my finger on it...perhaps it is because you do
> not hear people saying, "what is your favourite guy band?"  ig should be in
> the top 10 of bands period.

   how subtle does discrimination have to be before it's nonexistant?  i
mean, "girl band" doesn't have the negative stigma of, say, "boy
band."  :)

   darius

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hi y'all - ok i think i have read all the digests in my in-box but if not
forgive me if this is a rerun...there is a nice letter to the editor in the
new advocate (12/21/99). a couple issues ago they had a feature of the
advocate's 25 coolest women and the girls were a no-show. (tori, melissa,
martina (tennis goddess), and ellen & anne all made it.)

so this is this letter (copied illegally by me - any typos are mine cause i
type too fast)

did you forget about two of the women we dykes love? what about amy ray and
emily saliers, the indigo girls? how fondly i remember my first ventures out
of the closet at my first indigo girls concert as a freshman in college.  i
felt like i was at home! amy and emily and the hoards of screaming lesbians
in love welcomed me.  please add them to your list, as i'm sure many of us
gals still swoon over that edgy, sexy duo.
-melissa hidalgo, bloominton ind

:) there is also a nice letter from someone commenting on the fact that
gillian anderson was not included either...did anyone see the season opener??
oh my, scully in that tank top - yum yum :)

lisa :)

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yay! for barry :) i'm telling you - he totally rocks :) and sometimes, he'll
do can't smile without you and pick a girl from the audience to come sing
with him...after which he kisses her and hands her the vidoetape of they song
they just did - along with his autograph :) i never got picked but me and mom
used to fight over who would go up to the stage if he pointed in our
direction..lol :) barry rocks :) lisa

and read em and weep has always been one of my favorites that barry does
(meatloaf's got nothing on barry...or tori amos for that matter.)

<<  and believe it or not, the absolutely best show i
have ever seen was barry manilow's paradise cafe tour, in las cruces,
nm, in 1984 or 1985.  no warm-up act, just him and his band.  for 4 1/2
hours, he made a sell-out crowd of about 13,000 feel like he was giving
a private show in someone's living room. >>

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nigc (as usual) but good.

eve's dawning is a celebration of women of the pacific northwest. in
addition to musical performers, there will be dancers, poets, writers,
massage therapists and much more. more than 12 women will take the stage as
calliope, indiegrrl, persephone's circle and the tiger show collaborate for
the first time thursday, december 16th 1999 at the sit and spin in seattle,
wa. the show will include lilith fair performers nikol kollars and jr as
well as willow, holly figueroa, tiger zane, kym tuvim, and many others. the
show will also include dancers, artists, readings, and more...

the press release and more info is posted at
http://www.indiegrrl.com/eve.html .

the organizers are looking for volunteers to run the merchandise table, take
the door, and help with postering the area with the (very cool and
beautiful) eve's dawning posters. if you are interested, please contact
holly@indiegrrl.com. if you volunteer, you (of course) get into the event
for free.


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hello everyone,
        happy hanukkah to all those on the list who celebrate this holiday.
deb

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subject:      first album

oh, wow! thanks to my cool aunt, when i had the mumps, she gave me the first crosby, stills and nash album.

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oh, wow, what an interesting new thread you're starting!  my first album, was
(gulp)
the partridge family!  my mom gave it me when i was ten, in the hospital,
having my tonsils removed...ha ha ha.  loved that david cassidy!

my first meaningful album was home free, dan fogelberg...i fell in love with
dan's writing back in 1972, the first time i heard the song "stars...."

vicki "come on now and meet everybody, and hear us singing" stein

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this is fun...my first album was none other than michael jackson  -thriller,
and my second was the monkees -then and now...and that completes my record
collection.  sorry but i was born in the beginning of the cassette tape era.
:o■

carla

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i got the dec. issue of curve (thanks to my best friend's bday present)
and there was a leetle black and white pic of the girls with a blurb about
cons..*swoon*  was this mentioned already?

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say to one another is still the thing we long to hear?"
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my sister and i pooled our meager resources and shared
the expense of buying two tapes.  one was nelson -
remember the two blonde haired brothers?  but the
other was sinead o'connor's i do not want what i
haven't got, so we did have a little bit of taste.
besides, she was only 12 and i was 9.  my first cd,
many years later, was elastica.  rock out.  oh, the
memories... :)
laurel

>this is fun...my first album was none other than
>michael jackson
>-thriller,
>and my second was the monkees -then and now...and
that >completes my
>record
>collection.  sorry but i was born in the beginning of
>the cassette tape
>era.
>:ofl

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hey everyone,

keep your eyes peeled if you're a member of the ig fan club.   they've
actually sent something out!!!    i just got a nice picture post card in the
mail today, advertising the latest tour dates, along with some nice comments
from the press.

=)
lisa

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oh gosh! in fourth grade (1984) i was obsessed with
michael jackson. my family was staying at my mom's
cousin's house for christmas and she decided to buy me
my first walkman and my first cassette - michael
jackson's thriller! i nearly wore the thing out...
of course the first cd i bought was indigo girls rites
of passage... :-)

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does anyone remember the song by tracy ullman "they don't know"?  i have a
copy of it on an extended lp, but don't know how to make an mp3 of it.  i
have a line in on my soundcard, but that is it.  can anyone help me to get
it on my puter?  or does anyone have a copy i can have?  the song i think
has some appropriate lyrics for my relationship, and i would like to be able
to listen to it a little easier.  thanks for any help.

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"it doesn't matter to us if they don't approve.  we should just
take our chances while we've got nothing to lose"
--tracy ullman "they don't know"

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well,  we've always had plenty of music to go around i my family,  bu my
first full-length album
was peter, paul & mary, by peter, paul & mary.
i was about three, i'm 32 now so you can guess
where that ole hi-fi  mono lp  is......in with the rest of my beat-up,
scratched-up vinyl lp's.


that thing was  trashed  along with all my other
lp's by the time i was a teenager,  thankfully it is out on cd,  and i
have that.   some of my earliest memories, most comfortig ones are of
watching the parttridge family  on my mother's lap  when i was five, and
then receiving that wonderful double -lp world of the partridge family .
when i  was about eight.  i  had a crush on davidy and wrote
"barb+david cassidy." on the album.   i still have it.

i was expose to creedence clearwater  revival,
carpenters,  the weavers (with pete seeger i add)  three dog night, the
band.  i loved  donny and marie, and sonny and cher,
and then i went into early european  music,
then i got stuck  heavy on peter,paul & mary.

i kept a scrapbook on them alone for three years with letters to and
from them.  they opened doors for me, i got onto folk and accoustic
music and activism ,  certainly
learned things abut the sixties that didn't make
the textbooks!    i  started reading  joan baez'
daybreak,  (she wrote in 1965?)

i really wanted to get involved on the issues
like the war in central america for starters.  i
didn't have the connections and not nearly enough  support from family
members.  i had few friends at school,  all i could do to contribute
then was to write,  and send my artcles in, and they were  in high
school  paers.

now,  i   have  been active politically organizing
for seven years.  i'm into a plethora of all different kinds of music
from  all over the world.
i sing and play guitar, play piano, and a pennywhistle.   i used to be
dead stuck on traditionals,  anglo-american mountain ballads.

i came along by the girls in 1992  and they were into the same causes,
and  i would lsten to them before going on to speak at  rallies!  lol.
so i guess i'm a mixture of things,  between the mountain balladry and
them, i  was into celtic ,  like  very traditional mouthmusic of
the scottish  and history of the scottish hihighlands.  i have no
regretts,  that is so breath takng...there's more than just bagpipes,
jigs and reels, if i had the money i wold study that kind of music!

gotta go.

barb

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review: indigo girls, new opener keep audience ecstatic

by jim minge

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rose polenzani, a young singer-guitarist with elements of ani difranco and
fiona apple, was an exceptionally refreshing opening act thursday at the
civic auditorium music hall.

she threatened to steal the show away from headline act the indigo girls
before the duo even hit the stage. fortunately for the indigo girls, led by
emily saliers and amy ray, the audience had plenty of applause left.

although likely never heard by the 1,731 in attendance before thursday,
polenzani's powerful, yet light and airy vocals won the crowd over from the
get-go.

polenzani, a native of chicago, had a finicky acoustic-electric guitar that
snapped and crackled periodically during the her first two songs. a stage
hand brought her a new guitar. "whose is this?" she asked. "emily's? cool."

polenzani - who sang a song about teena brandon, a 22-year-old woman who
lived as a man and was beaten, raped and later murdered in 1993 on a farm
near humboldt, neb. - had a polaroid camera onstage with her. she stopped
briefly to take a picture of herself with saliers' guitar.

"i'll be selling this and copies of my cd in the lobby after the show," she
told the female-dominated crowd, as she launched into her song, "omen."

the indigo girls kept the ball rolling by opening with the rocking "go" and
"trouble," both from the duo's latest album, "come on now social."

backed most of the night by a four-piece band that included a cellist,
keyboardist, drummer and bassist, atlanta's saliers and ray drew the loudest
response when playing fan favorites, such as "least complicated," "the power
of two" and "chickenman."

the indigo girls brought polenzani back onstage to join them for a delicate
folk number.

"i'm playing amy's guitar now," polenzani said, drawing laughs.

the audience gave polenzani a standing ovation at the end of the tune. it
was nothing, however, to the reception given to the indigo girls' next song,
"closer to fine," which was on the duo's self-titled debut album in 1989.
nearly every member of the audience was on their feet singing along.

"thanks, y'all," saliers said after every song. "thank you for singing
along."

"faye tucker," also from "come on now social," was choice. a ramblin' rocker
in the vein of steve earle's "copperhead road," the song set the crowd on
its ear via ray's hard-edged vocals and saliers' slide guitar work.

"get out the map" and "shame on you" followed before the indigo girls
wrapped up the group's 90-minute set. saliers, ray and their band returned
for an encore.

"thanks, y'all," ray said. "we're going to do two songs - and then
'galileo,' " sending the audience into a massive cheer.

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i believe the first album i ever listened to was "sound of music."

first record i ever bought was "annie."

first tape:  "ghostbusters" soundtrack

first cd:  "when harry met sally."

(thought i'd complete the list, there)

as my best friend says...i would have made a wonderful gay man.  :-)

alas...

claudia

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saw the girls last night here in omaha.  awesome show, as i knew it would
be.  ;-)

the first time i saw them was at lilith fair in '97, and every time i see
them i
am more and more impressed by everything about them.  i mean, i liked them
in '97....saw them twice.  i was fortunate enough to see them four more
times
at lilith in '98 and four times last summer, but this was the first
full-length concert
i had the pleasure of going to....now i'm craving another...heehee.

they were amazing.  the funny thing is that when i first starting listening
to them
i was really into emily's songs.  my favorites were closer to fine, prince
of darkness,
galileo and least complicated.  amy's stuff just didn't click for me.  well,
i have to
say that amy is just whuppin' my ass right now.  old stuff, new stuff...she
is just
....damn i can't even think of a proper superlative...hehe...she is just
rocking my
world right now.

the omaha crowd was only 1730 or thereabouts, but it was a very knowlegable
crowd
and very vocal.  the girls stopped and let us sing a number of
times....probably three
or four full verses of various songs....least complicated, galileo, closer
to fine and
power of two, i think.  they seemed very impressed and happy to hear.  when
i was
in virginia beach for lilith fair in '98 there were 15,000 people and no one
knew the lyrics
to the last verse in galileo...except me and three others...hehe.  after two
lines of no
singing along, emily looked at amy and said, "maybe not!" and they started
singing again.
anyway, back to omaha...

set list, in some order, some disorder:

go
trouble
andy
chickenman
sister
peace tonight
least complicated
power of two
ozilline
i don't wanna know
? - one of rose's songs with rose, of course
closer to fine
shed your skin
mystery
compromise
faye tucker
get out the map
shame on you

encore:
airplane
gone again
galileo

rose polenzani was just incredible.  she was very funny and really hung
in there when her guitar was acting up in the beginning.  she ended up
finishing up with emily's guitar, although she didn't like the strap on
it..hehe.
she was very funny and full of personality.  the reviewer for the paper
seemed
to enjoy her more than the girls.

amy seemed so happy and joyful....very intense and into the crowd.  she
really
seemed to dig the fact that such a small crowd was so into it.  when she
left
the stage after galileo, she pumped her fist, as if to say, "we killed 'em."
emily
made several very funny remarks.  shed your skin kicked ass, as did
chickenman,
go,  and compromise.  hey, i said i'm into amy right now..hehe.  emily's
singalongs
were fantastic, too.  least complicated, power of two and galileo, and of
course
closer to fine were crowd favorites.  faye tucker was absolutely amazing.
that song
just puts me in a trance....total joy.  ozilline and sister were the two
songs that surprised
me the most live...they were both excellent.

the band was excellent.  the cello player, caroline dale, kicked major
patooties on shed your skin
and faye tucker.  i love clare kenny's bass playing.  blair cunningham was
great....where have
i heard his name before?  and carole isaacs was wonderful.

i had so many moments of incredible highs....pure joy.  the only other
artist that does
that with the consistency of the indigo girls is sarah mclachlan.  i have to
say that right
now, the girls are my favorite.  watch out, sarah!

love and peace,
dan

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hey, all you guitar players out there.  my fiancÚ is really interested in
getting a guitar.  i was looking for suggestions on what i should be looking
for.  would it be best for her to pick one out?  it seems to me that it
would be a personal thing, and she should pick it out.  would we be able to
find a decent one for around $100, or should we wait a bit and spend more?
we'll be much better off financially in about three months.

anyway, send in your suggestions.  i'm waiting....

love and peace,
dan

thanks!

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i second that emotion!

best wishes,

jean

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what's up with this? i just heard about this and i was like wow.. weird.. but
exciting...  has she said anything about it? thanx:) ryan
ps.  is are we going to talk about this on this list or is there gonna be an
amy ray mailing list now?.. weird..

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my high school choir sang back up for barry manilow....what an awesome
oppurtunity...
peace and love,
         carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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kim and i are planning to meet up before the show ( kim -- are you even on
this email list?  she might be on alt.music.indigo-girls only, come to
think of it ), but i don't know what the outlook on this list is for mi
fans, but anyone possibly interested in meeting up before the show, send me
email privately and we'll go from there.

.. melanie

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hmmmmm...  my first album(s) would have to be the soundtracks to the first
couple of james bond films (dr. no, from russia with love & goldfinger)...
this would have been around '66, and soon after that i moved on to "motown",
and then onto rock 'n' roll...  my first rnr albums (there were 3) were the
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i'm not sure if this has been mentioned before or not, but as i was
straightening the magazines at work yesterday i got emily saliers' name on
the cover of atlanta city mag as one of atlantans making a difference or
something like that.  there's an awesome full page picture of her and her
three watershed co-owners and a several paragraph article about her.
:)carrie

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claudia rollins wrote:

> i believe the first album i ever listened to was "sound of music."
>
> first record i ever bought was "annie."
>
> first tape:  "ghostbusters" soundtrack
>
> first cd:  "when harry met sally."
>
> (thought i'd complete the list, there)
>
> as my best friend says...i would have made a wonderful gay man.  :-)

actually, i think they would have come and physically taken your queer
card from you if they knew about the annie part...  i mean, we
understand about gay men and musicals... but "tomorrow"???  that's too
perky for anyone to deal with.

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i'm not sure if anyone has posted anything about this concert yet, but here
goes:

it was, without a doubt, the very best out of all six full-length ig concerts
i've been to (and better than all the lilith fairs i've seen put together)!
they played the fillmore auditorium, which can only hold a crowd of about 500
or so (maybe i'm wrong about that, it's just a guess--but there really
weren't very many of us there at all). both shows were sold out and for good
reason! shawn mullins did the openning act and he was great, but the second
those girls hit the stage with their openning number "go", the whole theater
just dissolved into cheers. they played the song and the crowd just kept
singing and dancing (since there were so few of us, we were all true
"die-hard" indigo junkies).

i went both nights, and the second show the girls were filming the show for a
new video (let's all keep our eyes open for that one, eh?). as a result, the
concert was even longer than the first night, so we got way over two hours of
rockin' music to jam to. plus the girls were really working the crowd. amy
made all sorts of jokes and emily told us that she really couldn't think of a
better show to end the tour with (they stopped for a while after that for
thanksgiving and started up again on dec. 1st). they played a great mixture
of old and new stuff. it would take too long to do the set lists for both
nights, so here are the songs they played the second night (nov. 20th):

**not in order, sorry 'bout that**

go
trouble
sister
"go over yonder"--the song that appears in their new album as a lead into
"compromise", which they also played
least complicated
closer to fine
shame on you
shed your skin
airplane
power of two
soon be to nothing
land of canaan
chickenman
ghost
gone again
peace tonight
get out the map
ozilline
cold beer and remote control
faye tucker

encore
philosophy of loss
galileo
neil young song


the first night they played andy and romeo and juliet as well as a whole
bunch of the songs that are on the other list, so both concerts were, in a
word, amazing...ah, there are really no adjectives to capture the spirit of
those girls, are there?

so, that's my review. emily and amy are better than ever, in my opinion, and
that's saying a lot considering they've been my favorite band for years and
years now. i can't wait to see them again...i may have to fly out to their
next concert, wherever it is, just to see them preform...wow...there's
nothing like it.

take it easy:
piper

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i'm sooo pissed! i'm watching rock 'n roll jeopardy, and under the topic
'girls with guitars'', not 1 question was about our girls!!!

cindy, who know's you'll understand where i'm coming from

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*gasp* ummmm....if i can remember correctly, and knowing my musical taste at
the time, i'd have to say my first album was helen reddy. i had such a crush
on her, especially with that accent. of course, at the time (i was 10) my
crushes took the form of "i wish she was my mom."

ryan

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okay.  how 80s am i?

first album:  thriller
second album:  duran duran, 7 and teh ragged tiger
frst cd:  john denver

and, my redemption:
first concert:  joan baez rocked my soul, 1989.


(i was banned from rock concerts until i was a legal adult.  i'm not
*that* young!  :-))

chris ii

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are the girls playing in ann arbor or what ive heard conflicting stories
are they playing anywhere in michigan


you talk about life, you ain't livin
you think you're drivin, babe your driven
you need to find somethin you can't get at the store
you need to unroll your window and put your arm on the door

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re: first albummy first album.... i think it was reo speedwagon hi
infidelity

but sjortly after i got village people, andy gibb and shaun cassidy!!!

umm... i still  listen to reo now, but the others? hehehe

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oh, ok, if we are doing first cd's too, mine would be luba
anyone out there remember her?  not likely if you aren't from canada

non musically related... first videos i bought:
shirley valentine
fried green tomatoes
boys on the side

sense a theme here?

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my first "favorite" album was an 8-track of linda ronstadt's greatest hits,
vol ii...because my parents bought a component system and gave me their big
old furniture-looking console unit to have in my room!  i used to play air
guitar to that allll the time as a little kid!

the first record i ever got was the muppets and john denver christmas
album...lol...which i got with my first record player in 1979.

the first album i ever bought for myself was john cougar, american fool.

ah...the memories. :)

mis

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according to pollstar.com, the butchies will be opening the iu-bloomington
show this coming thursday. i was kinda hoping for rose p., but this will
be fun anyway. (for those who may have missed my earlier post, michelle
malone is opening the indianapolis show on tuesday, 12/7.)

i still have one student ticket that probably needs a good home -- 9th row
-- $25 (face value). must have iu-bloomington student id to get in with
this ticket.

cheers,

-anne

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   i'm ready to leave all this wreckage behind me."  -rose polenzani, "or"
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hey all,
does anybody have info on the house concert michelle is doing in nj on dec.
11?  i'd be forever greatful if you passed it along.
thanks,
java

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i thought this was interesting...e-mail me for the whole article. :) lisa


the times-picayune
new orleans
wednesday, december 1, 1999

how schools can get straight with gays
by tom teepen

    family-values and religious right groups are up in alarms over a pamphlet
about gay and lesbian youths recently sent to school administrators around
the country.  their distress is understandable.  the booklet's appeal to
reason has little place in the narrow cosmography of the sexually repressive.

  their message is the simple
one that some young men and women are gay, lesbian or bisexual, that that's
all there is to it and efforts to force them to change do far more harm that
good.

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the filmore in denver holds about 2700 by the way.  it was sold out friday
night and close to, if not completely sold out on saturday night.

g.

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i checked - it was not webcast...

(and jude h, i actually burned cdr's for you and someone else today - now i
just need to record the second cd for each of the concerts i wish to tree)

mike r.

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i think the first album i ever bought myself was shaming...i had all the
albums on tape,but i needed to buy it for the ep...i never really had a
reason to buy any till then..i'm just a kid ya know;)

pax, celeste:)

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howdy y'all...

urgent, must sell 2 tix for the emu show-crisis came up and i have to forego
the girls. : (

face value, not bad seats...

lyndsay

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believe it or not, fortuinately or unfortunately, rose is opening for vic
chesnutt on wed. in chicago,  unfortunately - i'm not going to be in town
till thursday..

if you chi-town listee's are taping and want to trade- and if you are
awesome enough to say, tape rose and vic wed. i'll owe you, like, big...just
don't ask me to burn five cd's in the past 27 hours...

(especially when i should be updating my webpages and getting my
presentation done...)

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while we're on the subject of openers, anybody know who will be opening for
the girls in dayton on 12/13?

~lisa

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g'day everyone,

is anyone having trouble with the epic site today?  i keep getting a
connection refused message - something up with epic?

thanks,
maddie


btw - aussie band women in docs opened with "land of canaan" at their gig
the other night!!  yay!!

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just want you to know i did get in to see the girls,  and it was great,
they actually talked to us a lot tonight, now that's a switch......the
seat was wonderful,  i got it for  $40 even, 3rd row seat 6!!

i can't give a ful setlist  (i'm n ot cons buff so i lost tract of the
cons stuff, but i'll tell you what i know and let the others fill you
in.)

go
trouble
peace tonight
ozillene
andy
chickenman
closer to fine  (this list isn't in order of performace, it's what i
remember)
shame on you
i don't want to know
amy solo (don't know the name)
power of two
faye tucker
virginia  wolfe
galileo
two other songs i dont know
least complicated
shed your skin
ghost

i didn't mind all the cons stuff at the concert,
i thought i would  feel differently about the songs and less critical
because i'm in the mood for enjoying what they put out, as l ong as they
got stuff that i  can enjoy too.

a memorable moment......amy said  fred phelps threatened to protest them
but he never showed-up!!!!!! heh heh heh!  (that's typical
fred phelps...he threatened to show up at all god's children in mpls,
though maybe about twenty of his flock did,  he was not there!  hundreds
of people showed up to oppose him!)

amy and emily   "we like playing here>"  emily laughed "you let  us
play!!"  amy goes  "and we're not just saying that."  carol isaacs
flubbed on closer to fine on pennywhistle, the girls stopped the song so
she could start over,  "you're doing it come on,"

emily added a wonderful guitar solo in chickenman,  and the girls sort
of made the song into a medley.  and then came back to the song  i like
it when they do that. and they did a question and answer period!!!  they
said they
stoppe down at the y in mpls  (so that's what keeps them in shape....i'm
sure all the jumping around on stage.  does it too)

best of  all.......hm......i could see the the whole
time without having to stand up and dance the whole show through.  some
fans brought a quilt with the girls name on it,  and  someone in the
orchestra pit handed emily a rose.

sooooo, i had a blast, we all did,   and  amy is looking  greaaaat
she's cute.  emily seeemed to have fun.   they're good-hearted people.
that makes me wish i could give them  another hug  like i did last year.
they mentioned something about doing another honor the earth tour  here
next fall?  (i think...not sure.
when or where. )  i hope somebody got a boot from that show  to make
available on the list.

last of all it says on a brochure form honor the earth  that the girls
rceived an award from them for all their hard work o native issues.

well  it getting late now, and i  still  have all your emails to read.


wonderful show!!

peace,

barb

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they were on earlier to day, ididn't catch t but if anybody did and got
it on tape i'd be willing to give you a blank tape if you would dubb it
for me just a thought.

barb

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on wed, 1 dec 1999, susan brill wrote:

> i sort of wish i hadn't done that. see, i think i have always
been trapped in the idea that i needed to become an expert in
something before i was qualified to do it

yeah - i felt the same way about playing the guitar.  i've pretty
much written poetry since i could write, but i only started playing
guitar about three and a half years ago.  and so, even though
i started writing songs on the guitar almost immediately after
i picked it up (hey - me and amy songs really *do* have only
three chords in 'em, most of the time - as do most of my early
creations.  even ani songs are just repeated riffs, mostly in
alternate tunings.  it's *not* that hard!!) i didn't have the
guts to go out and perform them, get some feedback.  but it's
kind of silly - i've found that there are always gonna be people
who like your stuff and people who don't.  that's just the way
it is.  and if you wait till you're an expert, you could be waiting
a long time.

> so after that long-winded intro, here's my question! how do
you folks out there approach the song-writing process?

before i became more confident with the guitar, it was usually
lyrics and tune first, then sitting down with the guitar and
working it out.  nowadays, i may come up with a riff and just
start singing whatever pops into my head at that moment.  so
then i'll have what sounds like a chorus or verse, and i usually
put the guitar down, think about what it is that i want to say,
continue singing (making up the words as i go along, editing
and rewriting simultaneously), pick the guitar up again and find
the chords.  then i play with the chords to see how i can vary
the style so it fits the tune and the tone of the song.  sometimes,
though, the lyrics still come alone, and i have to wait for the
right tune or riff to come along.  so it's like a moment of inspiration
and then honing it down.  it happens, if you don't try to push
it.  for me, writing a song is less like giving birth (push!
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push!) and more like an epiphany resembling the old thx promo
- slowly building up until it fills your head with a rush and
a roar.


as far as lyric writing is concerned, with me it tends to be
when i find myself in the eye of my emotional hurricane - you
know, you go through a lot and finally find yourself at some
point of peace where you're all cried or yelled or danced out,
and that's when the words come.  i've tried to veer away from
the sad stuff, though, since music is such a wonderful gift of
joy that can be given to others, and i'm tired of depressing
them - even if it is thought provoking and people can identify.
so lately, songs have been building up slowly - a verse or two
here, a chorus there.  they're either activism songs or situation-descriptive
songs or actual songs of joy.  i've taken to jotting down lines
that suddenly appear in my mind as a result of something i was
thinking.  sometimes they become songs, sometimes not, but better
discarded than forgotten.

that's about enough from me.

hey - it was great reading about everyone else's styles!  sarah
pinsker, how come you didn't write?  or did you and i somehow
missed it?  i'd like to hear...

and happy hannukah, all!

the lights are shining in jerusalem... anyone coming for the
millenium?  ;)

michal

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on ghost it was so gorgeous in  that everyone sang the whole song  the
couple next to me
sat arms around one another,  and all was quiet
amy smiled, said , "beautiful......let's go.? (something like that.)   i
thought "that sounds llike a typical amy statement,"  as if  saying,  "
all right enough  of this  lovey-dovey  stuff, let's rock!" so what's
your take on the show?  anybody?

barb

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it's hannukah already? i had no idea at all... but i guess things like that
happen when you attend a catholic university...

crawling back into my hole now...
meredith

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hey folks,

a friend of mine has two tickets to the ig concert tonight in chicago that
someone stuck her with at the last minute.  would anyone like them?  they
are seats l218 and l220 in the 2r section.  (that's slightly right of
center, in not worse than the twenty-fifth row--i forget how the seating
chart works.)

if you want them, call my friend, sara, at (773) 271-3296.  if you can't
get her, call me on my cell phone (773) 415-1514 and we will meet at the
theater a little before 7:30pm, when the show starts.  first caller gets
the tickets.  she'll sell them at cost (or maybe best offer, i don't know)
which was $41 each, or $82 for the pair.

thanks,
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i was at the show last night in mpls and was impressed.  the last time they
played northrup they were tired and the show lacked energy.  not the case
last night.  it rocked!

probably the most frustrating thing for me is how polite we all are here in
mn.  everybody stood up when they came on stage (to play go, which i had
guessed as soon as i saw sulli tuning em's electric) but everyone sat down
almost immediately.  ack.  people kept sitting down when i wanted to stand
- ie. amy's songs.  :)

they skipped song off cons that i wanted to hear such as cold beer... and
gone again and seemed to be playing a ton off of sots and so.  it may have
been my imagination, though.  :)

they were both very into the crowd and commented on a sign that said
"minnesota: land of 10,000 dykes".  amy said something about it being on
the license plates and how lucky we are here in mn.  then came the comment
about fred phelps saying he was going to protest one of their concerts but
they think they gave him the wrong date.

they took about 2 or 3 questions from the audience.  one was the request
for virginia woolf and another was a question about the cover of cons.
they said that it was a photograph taken by amy's girlfriend and that they
didn't know who the girl was but that she seemed intense or confident or
something like that.  and that all girls should be like that...and boys
too.  amy then commented that the philosophy used to be share what you have
but now it's more hold on to your share.

overall it was a very fun show!

lisa

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hey folks,

i haven't seen any info about the st louis show yet
(that's a hint :), but someone posted the set list
to the newsgroup, so here it is...

-sherlyn

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>subject: re: st louis reviews anyone?
>date: thu, 02 dec 1999 17:57:29 -0600
>
>steve, i'm going to try and have a review of the show by this weekend
>(if not sooner). i did write out the set list (my girlfriend thought i
>was nuts that i once wrote one out my arm :)) and here it is.
>
>
>go
>trouble
>3 hits
>get out the map
>scooter boys
>soon be to nothing
>ozilline
>peace tonight
>land of canaan
>closer to fine
>compromise
>cold beer and remote control
>johnny rotten
>ghost
>faye tucker
>power of 2
>shame on you
>
>encore:
>
>mystery
>gone again
>galileo
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hey everyone,

all this talk about songwriting is prompting me to offer up my very own
debut cd that i made in my little studio apartment last month. it's an
acoustic 12 song cd of originals that i wrote over the last couple
years.  my main influences are of course ig, paul simon, ani, vic
chesnutt, bob dylan, pet shop boys....  so if you like blatant
plagiarism, you'll like my cd.  it's called, "wendell lee: i want to be
in a band"

anyway, email me if you want a copy.

thanks,
wendell

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did i forget to send these your way?
jane siberry is on the road again. she's just added a couple shows in canada
for this month:

december 14     vancouver, bc    the vogue
tickets are available through ticketmaster: 604-280-4444

december 20     toronto, on        trinity-st. paul's united church
ticekts are available through ticketmaster: 416-870-8000

for more information and show dates visit
http://www.sheeba.ca/tour.html

*j


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i am wondering if anyone can help me.  sulli (and i am not sure if i
spelled that right or not, apologies to all if not!) was super sweet
and helpful to my friend and i at a recent show.  i would reeaaaalllly
love to e-mail her and thank her for her help--any chance anyone has an
e-mail addy for her? (i know there are lots of sulli fans out there!)
or any other contact info where i could get in touch with her?  a super
long-shot i know, but does anyone know if amy/emily have an e-mail
addy?  thanks tons for any help anyone can give!

pam

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hmmm... not having seen th girls perform too much, i am not sure who sully
would be. is she the blond and rather cute guitar tech, or the other one?

placing a new twist on the "which-one-is-she" question,
meredith

pamela weller-dengel <pamela.weller-dengel@mankato.msus.edu> wrote:
i am wondering if anyone can help me.  sulli (and i am not sure if i
spelled that right or not, apologies to all if not!) was super sweet
and helpful to my friend and i at a recent show.  i would reeaaaalllly
love to e-mail her and thank her for her help--any chance anyone has an
e-mail addy for her? (i know there are lots of sulli fans out there!)
or any other contact info where i could get in touch with her?  a super
long-shot i know, but does anyone know if amy/emily have an e-mail
addy?  thanks tons for any help anyone can give!

pam

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get out of your jammies and go to where the music is.
here's where some of my favorite folks will be this month.
give a listen, maybe they'll become your favorites too.
(if you are not familar with any of these women and would like to hear their
stuff, drop a note in my inbox and a blank in the mail, and i'd be glad to
make you a mix sampler.)

jill


jess klein:
curly-headed, nose-pierced boston area songstress with an incredible,
distinctive voice. plus way smart lyrics, rabblerousing rhythm, and leather
pants.
<http://www.jessklein.com>
sat, dec 11, 1999 8:00pm
crossroads coffeehouse,
north andover, ma
with vance gilbert
----

erin mckeown: student at brown, plays some of the best
folk/funk/jazz/blues/etc guitar you'll hear from fingers that young.
clever clever lyrics that'll turn circles around your mind's heart.
<http://www.erinmckeown.com>
december 10  time ?
mercury lounge, nyc
w/ eddie from ohio and the kennedys
----

rose polenzani
(you know about rose)
<http://www.rosepolenzani.com>

mon, dec 06, 1999  8:00pm
csps ,  cedar rapids, ia
rose opens show for vic chesnutt.
tickets are $10.00.
319.364.1580, www.legionarts.org

wed, dec 08, 1999
schuba's,  chicago, il
rose opens show for vic chesnutt

fri, dec 10, 1999  9:00pm
twice told coffeehouse,
1604 bardstown rd., louisville, ky
rose opens show for vic chesnutt.
tickets $10

sat, dec 11, 1999 7:30pm
veterans memorial hall ,  columbus, oh
rose opens for indigo girls

mon, dec 13, 1999  7:30pm
memorial hall ,  dayton, oh
rose opens for indigo girls

thu, dec 16, 1999, time tba
uncommon ground,  chicago, il
----

cat power (chan marshall):
soft-voiced, freckled atlantan, on the alt.acoustic side of things.
she's gotten over her stage fright and actually looks at the audience
nowadays. alernately ethereal and gritty-driving. lovely.
<http://www.matador.recs.com/bands/catpower/index.html>

all dates in australia.  sorry, no times were given on the website.
su  12/5 - clarendon cabaret room, blue mountains
fr 12/10 - hi fi bar, melbourne
sa 12/11 - meredith music festival, vic
we 12/15 - luna cinema, perth
th 12/16 - luna cinema, perth
su 12/19 - governor hindmarsh htl, adelaide

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in a message dated 99-12-05 18:10:46 est, jillyc@hotmail.com writes:

<< jane siberry is on the road again. she's just added a couple shows in
canada
for this month: >>


i saw jane last night at the bottom line after the melissa ferrick show
(which rocked) and although i had only heard her once before on the radio, i
was crying my eyes out.  like a baby, i tell you.  i was laughing too because
she is absolutely hysterical, but she just drew stuff out from me that i
haven't let out in a long time and i just sat there in the middle of the
bottom line crying like a lunatic!

definitely save the dough and go see her.  it's 22.50 (or at least it was
last night) but worth every penny.

best wishes,
carrie

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date:         sun, 5 dec 1999 18:14:12 -0600
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hi y'all!  sorry for the blatant nigc, but i need a favor.  i'm writing a
paper for my feminist theory class on women who commit violence, and i was
hoping one of you would be kind enough to read over it for me.  while i
love my friends, i think most of them would be a little timid to criticize
the paper, and i need someone to be honest with me.  if you're willing to
critique it for me, send me an email and i'll attach it and send it back.
thanks a lot y'all!

susan
harne001@bama.ua.edu

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sulli  is definately the cute blonde guitar tech..she is super nice i
had a great encounter with her last year...at an honor show...

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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hey yall
does anyone have an mp3 of love of the common people they would be willing to
send me, i would be forever grateful....

thanks
sasha

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hello again..i just got my monthly e-newsletter from rose p and i thought
this was interesting:
<<<
holiday sale.

everything is one dollar off this month. giftwrapped and signed, if your
order arrives by dec 15.

order at http://www.rosepolenzani.com/order/ >>

i haven't ordered from the website - i generally send my orders in. if you
order from parhelion music (which is where i got my copy of dragersville and
rose's demo tapes) they are extremely fast...i'm not sure if the address on
the web site is the same one as parhelion or not but in any case support
rose!!!

:) lisa

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hey all--just returned from an evening out with the indigo girls.  it was
great to have em back in the windy city and they seemed pleased to be here.
the chicago theater is a great venue and i was so glad they picked it.  i
don't have a setlist although it looks as though it was quite similar to
the minneapolis one.  they played mostly new stuff although not andy or
gone again which are two i like off cons.  i must admit that when they
tossed the band and broke out acoustic guitars to play land of canaan that
i had a gleam in my eye.  i really miss the old indigo girls as much as i
do enjoy there newer more produced stuff.  what we really need is another
10 dollar tour of them playing whatever the crowd wants.

observations of interest:  1) i may get flamed for this but it was one of
the first things we noticed--amy seemed awfully busty.  usually the girls
hide their boobs well.  she was wearing this shirt and i was just
like--hey, where did those come from.  of course that was followed by
--hey, put those away :):).
2)the accordion mixed in on all the songs sounded great to me.  it was my
first time seeing the new band they are touring with.  they did a great
job.  no problems during the penny whistle ctf part.  although emily did
mess up in the middle of trouble and as usual did her little oopsee
routine.
3)the greatest part was hearing ctf in the middle of the show and knowing
that many other songs would be played.  i like galileo as a closer.
4)amy had this solo on a song that you actually hear a mini-clip of on
cons.  it's that one where she plays a snippet and then goes--wooo.  i
think it's called jonnie rocket or something like that.  it was
interetsing.  lots of energy and mandolin-ing.  i love raw amy.
5)girls were in a fine mood tonight.  they had one particularly chatty
banter with the crowd in between songs.  emily apologized for green bay
"kicking y'alls ass today" refering to the packers beating the bears.
first time i've ever heard them booed.  greatest segue was when amy
described the deep meaning behind sister and the next song was cold beer.
em was like--well that was deep and thought provokiong, our next song is
about cold beer.  lotsa laughs.
6)the girls cello had these glow in the dark panels on it and let's just
say it looked pretty phallic in the dark.  hmmm...

overall--a lot of fun.  too much new stuff but i expected that.  i'm glad i
didn't pay 4 grand for that private performance.  it was all over too
quick.  can't wait for wednesday's milwaukee performance.  ciao

greg

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hey everybody,
speaking of great holiday gifts that are ig related. i got this e mail
from caroline aiken about ordering some of her stuff for christmas. i
can personally say that she knocked my socks off when i saw her play.
so treat yourself to the woman who helped a & e get their start. you
won't be disappointed.
linda

> >from caroline:
> > don't forget the special i am offering...to send a cd to your friend/loved
> > one for the holidays, or a new years' gift!!!! signed/wrapped/and a note
> > from you in the package. 20 bucks....come on and eat em up!
> > live bait (live, with many great local musicians including jack williams and
> > mo from mother's finest!!!)
> > live at the attic (features two cuts with the indigo girls. live, recorded
> > at eddie's attic)
> >
> > send check or mo to:
> >
> > caroline aiken
> > pobx 11723
> > atlanta, ga 30355
> >
> > www.carolineaiken.com
> > www.songs.com/caroline
> > www.dogwood.org

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wow wow wow
great show...here's my review. for any listees that were waiting by the bus
after the show i was the girl with the orange turtleneck and greenish jacket
belting out songs with everyone :)
aaanyway...
michelle malone opened, i'm thrilled i finally got to see her live, she was
amazing, her voice, her stage presence, she's awesome. at one point, she was
darting all around the stage trying to fake out the spotlight. emily came
out and sang strength for two with her...it was beautiful.
now...on to the ig performance:

they opened with go, and then trouble which emily had a little, er, trouble
with. during the bridge part when she's supposed to sing the "one day the
war will stop..." she just kept playing and stepped back from the
microphone, meanwhile, amy started singing the verse and then gave emily a
really puzzled look and mouthed the words that she was supposed to be
singing...emily didn't get it, so she mouthed the words again and then emily
gave a little smile and said, "i forgot the song". after that was
chickenman...which was incredible to say the least. peace tonight, land of
canaan, and least complicated. they seemed pleased with the verses the crowd
sang. then sister, which was very very very intense. after that song, they
got a little chatty. emily said she wished she had a better song to follow
it, something about wanting to have a more poetic life, but instead she'll
just play the next song about beer. amy replied with, "i wish i could be
more like a cold beer". they said they had just played five shows in a row,
so they're getting a little goofy...like forgetting songs and talking just
to amuse themselves. amy said she had been watching james bond movies all
day, and emily mentioned the football game and apologized for green bay
"kicking y'alls asses". emily asked amy if she had watched it...and then amy
made some remark about how they barely talk to eachother on the road and
then emily said, "but we love eachother" <sigh>. then they asked for
questions from the audience...but no one really asked anything except how
they were doing so they just played cold beer and remote control. michelle
came back out and sang i don't wanna know, and then they did closer to fine.
by the way, i saw a  girl with a sign that said, "i have oboe" which really
confused me until i saw another one that said "can i play". the girls seemed
amused by it. they played ozillene next and then soon be to nothing. amy
came out by herself and did johnny rotten which was very very cool. she
seemed really out of breath by the end of it. then compromise, power of two,
faye tucker, get out the map, shame on you, i think this is right...the
encore was a song with kelly hogan (was she in jcs? she looked familiar), a
song with kelly hogan and another girl, and then galileo. it was an amazing
show. i didn't get a setlist or a pick...but, i think i got something
better. i waited outside afterwards with a bunch of people. emily came out
first and was all smiles. we had been singing some songs and we told emily
she had missed us singing galileo and she said..."yeah, i've heard it
before". she signed everyone's stuff that wanted it, and was all smiles. she
signed my cd...and my hand. i don't know what came over me, a girl stuck her
hand out and said she didn't have anything for her to sign...and for some
reason, i just stuck my hand out too. now i'm sitting here staring at the
little heart and emily's signature on my hand. i don't know what i'm going
to do...i hate to wash it off...but, it is my hand, and i think it'd be a
little bit gross if i didn't wash it. hm. what a dilemma. anyway...amy came
out a little later and didn't sign anything but she smiled and waited long
enough for people to get some pictures of her and told us they had to drive
tonight and didn't have time to sign anything else.
it was a great show, i'm sure i've missed some stuff, and very worth the 3
hour drive. i can't wait until saturday...eastern michigan university!!

lia

ps...hi sarah! it's wierd how we always manage to run into eachother.
pps...are the three girls that we're singing and harrassing the play station
security guard on the list? i just wanted to say thanks for providing some
entertainment while we were all waiting in the cold :)

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carrie wrote:

>she is super nice i had a great encounter with her last >year

that got me wondering - what *is* it with niceness and the folk
scene?  or is it just the non-mainstream-pop scene?  last year
when i was in la for the summer, i met julie clark (of lift,
who was, at the time, touring with shawn mullins, and is, by
the way, one rocking bass player - i even went out and bought
a bass because of her) who must have been the absolutely nicest
person on the face of the earth.  i mean, at first i couldn't
even believe it, i thought it might be an act, but as we talked
it became obvious that's just how she is.  she even went back
to her hotel to get me the marilyn5 cd she thought i'd like (good
band, by the way).

then this past summer sonia rutstien, of disappear fear (y'know,
the one sarah pinsker opens for occasionally?! ;) came to tour
in israel, and i got to hang out with her a bit, and again -
it was insane.  i just don't think i've ever met people who are
so honestly genuinely *nice*.  like, as in, *good* *going out
of their way* nice, not the british d.h. lawrence "nice." (any
english majors out there?)

and of course, there's everyone on this list, half of whom perform
etc., who are also ridiculously nice - especially in the "giving"
sense of the word (this would be a good time to thank anyone
who's ever sent anything to poor isolated jerusalemite me - like
jude and tigger and java and the list goes on... oops, pun.)


and of course, our girls, who can still be incredibly nice in
spite of the screaming hordes  trying to pull off bits of their
clothing and then asking the them to sign what was once a sleeve...

so what's up with that?  in selfish take-all-you-can-get america,
where a child's first word is "more" or "me", where did this
come from?  folkies can't be all that different from other people.
theories, anyone?  more positive stories to share?  negative
ones? (well, send those to me privately, please - while i'm interested
in hearing them, why bash anyone publicly just because of one
incident!)

oh - and if anyone knows where i can mail something to julie,
i have a card i made her last year, but her address wasn't on
the business card she gave me.  i'd still like to get it to her,
so if anyone knows, drop me a line.

yikes, two posts in one week... think i'll crawl back into anonymity
now...

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i have also had the extreme pleasure of chatting with sara lee and jerry
moratta... both super nice people....i talked to sara the same day id
chatted with sulli and then jerry at a concert like six months
later....very cool  now if i could just get through to amy and emily....
wishing for a miracle,
         carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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wondering if whoever is putting the card exchange together could e-mail
me.  i haven't gotten a list or anything, and i wondering if i should
have by now....thanks a bunch
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happy berfdays!!!!!

december 7 (1978)
jorel sallaska
sallaska@fas.harvard.edu (jorel)

december 12
kathrin.siegmund@stud.uni-hannover.de
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hope you have a wonderful day!

love,
audra
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hi ~

this article saddens me and makes me feel so helpless...the right to bear arms hasn't been "right" for a while...but then, this isn't the forum for political discussion.  nonetheless, i'm pissed about this right now!

when will this ever stop?

<<three students shot at okla. school

the associated press
dec 6 1999 9:35am et


fort gibson, okla. (ap) - three students at a middle school were shot this morning.

superintendent steve wilmoth said the shooting took place outside and possibly inside the middle school shortly before 8 a.m. he didn't know the condition of the students.

he couldn't elaborate on whether a suspect had been taken into custody and who did the shooting.

fort gibson is a town of about 3,500 about 50 miles southeast of tulsa. >>


vicki

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can you please fwd this to the big ig list as complete
and utter nigc, but i need to find a copy of last
night's abc sunday night movie "tuesday's with morrie"
- yes jean i know i still owe you a couple of cdr's
(i'm sending vegas and the first cd is done) - folks i
really need this )

ig relation: the two main characters went to brandeis
univ. - ig played one of the best concerts on 12/4/92
- heck almost 7 years ago to the day!

mail me @ io20742@exploremaine.com not this addy -

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amy said she "didn't want it to be a big deal" and
that it would be released on daemon records.

she also said that emilyh would play on it, so it
may be a solo album in name only!

amy said she wanted to do it to "get some things out
out her system."  i don't know what the sound of the
album will be, but my guess is that it will have things
she feels she can't do in indigo girls.  we'll see.

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the who and the blues magoo opening for herman's hermits (the reason i was at
the show!) at the fox theatre in atlanta, ga, summer, 1965.  i was six!  my
mom was so cool to take me to that show.  it was so loud we had to put
kleenex in our ears just to hear.  now i use cigarette filters, although i'm
a non-smoker :-)  !!!

pam in big d

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before you make cracks about my age, remember i'm
the same age as emily:

first album: "the sting" soundtrack
second album:  back home again by john denver
first cd:  i was a late cd bloomer, so it was ingenue by kd lang

and, my redemption:
first concert:  george benson and seawind, 1979 in denver.

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on mon, 6 dec 1999 starr@netvision.net.il wrote:

> that got me wondering - what *is* it with niceness and the folk
> scene?  or is it just the non-mainstream-pop scene?

   well, almost all of the mainstream folks i've met have been really
nice, too.  robin wilson of the gin blossoms, bb king, nils lofgren (the
other guitar player in the e street band), and dylan -- all were really
nice folks.
   the trick is bumping into them in the first place -- the folk scene,
there are less people, thus smaller venues, so people tend to be more
approachable.

   darius

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it was great!! this is my first ig-only concert and i was in 3rd row! below are bits and pieces i remember...
1. emily totally forgot the "one day the war will stop" part, amy mouthed the lyric to her to remind her but she still didn't get it. amy has to explain rather in length. funny!

2. i felt that the girls tried to be chatty, not because they have something to say, but do so just to be chatty. anyone else felt that?

3. amy said something like, " you'll be surprise how we don't talk to each other on tour" i know they don't hang out together, now they don't even talk?

4. they had guest artist do 2 of the 3 encore songs. i always admire them giving spotlights to less know musicians. but last night i want to hear more ig songs! i was a bit disappointed not be able to hear any of my favorite emily songs. no wood song, no ghost, no virginia woolf.  :(

5. amy's johnny rotton solo was great!! so raw!!

6. during compromise, for a moment i forgot i'm in a ig concert, i thought i'm in a metallica concert or something, wondering if anyone will start a mosh pit.

7. i got emily's autograph!! the security guard want to just escort her right onto the bus but she came out of her way to sign things for us. i mumbled a couple of things to her and she responded to them all. she's so sweet!!

need to get back to work. i'm sure i'll write more later.

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the internet broadcast of sonia & the disappear fear band's performance at
the barns of wolf trap is
now
available for viewing through wolf trap's web site:
http://www.wolftrap.org

click 'internet broadcasts' on the main menu, under performances.

this was an awesome show, so enjoy!

sarah

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i saw ig do this song in minneapolis and was blown away.  i know it's
been floating around for a couple of years.  does anyone have the
chords?  thanks!
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hey ya'll,

i don't think this has been posted yet--cd 101 is giving away seats to a
private big room show w/the girls next sat.  the station is at 101.1 on
your columbus, oh radio dial, or you can listen on-line at cd101.com.  i
went last time they did this w/twink and barb and some other listees and it
was absolutely amazing.  tiny room, maybe 25-30 people, and the girls
w/their guitars.  i'm sitting by my phone like a psycho.  i don't know how
i'm ever finishing all my end-of-quarter work w/this going on, since i
can't tune the station in on the 2nd floor of my house, which is where my
computer is--argh!!! anyway, good luck all.

lisa
ps and i can't find twink and barb's new number, so don or anyone else who
knows it--call them!
lisa

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seriously, it's only life afterall."--emily saliers

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over the weekend, i sat down and figured this out...it sounds right,
although i think (from seeing the show last night) that amy is playing the
chords slightly differently--ie, it looks like she's playing the dm at the
5th fret, but with no bar).  but this seems pretty close:

fingerpicking pattern for intro and verse:

e-----------------------------------
b-----------------------------------
g------2-------2-------0-------0----
d----3---3---3---3---3---3---3---3--
a--5-------5-------4-------4--------
e-----------------------------------

then the chorus:

dm  am  bb  c

that's it--at least for amy's parts--as i lack banjoage, i'm not going to
touch the emily part.

happy playing,
shelley

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>6. during compromise, for a moment i forgot i'm in a ig concert, i thought
>i'm in a metallica concert or something, wondering if anyone will start a
>mosh pit.

imo, compromise was one of the standouts in this show.  it was so tight, and
amy was bouncing so frenetically across the stage.  and during cold beer,
the friend i'd come with (who isn't a big fan), turned to me and said "oh my
god, its my life"...after dealing with some pretty heavy work issues
recently , i'm a newfound fan of this song.

i was surprised by the number of upbeat, bouncy songs they started with...it
was definitely a feel good concert.  michelle malone was impressive,
too--its so nice to see her in larger venues, playing with the crowd.

lacking coherence, i'll stop now.  but it was definitely one of the better
shows i've seen.

take care and happy decembering.

shelley

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ten years ago today a man armed with a semi automatic weapon entered the
university of montreal's engineering school and decided to end the lives
of
fourteen women.  marc lepine felt that it was because women were allowed
at
the school that his application had been rejected.  he thus decided to
rage
a war against feminists.
ten years later we are still remembering the worst act of violence
against
women in canadian history.  today we remember the lives of the fourteen
women and give voice to the continuing struggle against violence against
women.

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which issue is the article with es in?

melissa

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                  copyright 1999 st. louis post-dispatch, inc.

                            st. louis post-dispatch

               december 4, 1999, saturday, five star lift edition

indigo girls inspire fans to sing along in successful appearance at
the fox
ellen futterman; post-dispatch critic-at-large

   although ricky martin was performing at the same time only a couple
of miles
away, the audience of 3,607 at the fox theatre wednesday night got its
own "la
vida loca," indigo girls-style. this translated into an exciting blend
of newer
frenetic rock jams and popular folk anthems culled from the duo's
decade-long
career.

   the girls started out fast and furious with the hard-rocking "go,"
from their
recently released "come on now social" cd. it allowed amy ray to pump up
the
volume - as well as the crowd - as she fired on her guitar with
grunge-inspired
recklessness. in a way, it was so un-indigo girls-like, yet it signaled
that the
90-minute show would be a bit unpredictable with ray and her
singer-songwriting
partner, emily saliers, trading leads as they moved among somewhat
diverse
musical forms.

   it is the mingling of their unique voices, skillful instrumentation
and
distinct personalities that has fostered this duo's longevity and
garnered them
such a broad base of fan support. together, ray's huskier vocals and
saliers'
melodic smoothness bring dimension to their music with harmonies that
wrap
around elaborate lyrics so effortlessly.

   the evening brought all kinds of examples, including favorites such
as
"closer to fine," "three hits" and "get out the map." but the best
illustration
came an hour into the concert with the rarely performed "ghost," a
melancholy
tribute to the power of love and its memories. this live rendition was
sparse
yet lush, with the two both on acoustic guitar, backed only by cellist
caroline
lavelle.

   an eclectic audience showed its appreciation for the older stuff by
singing
along, swaying and dancing whenever possible. interestingly,
concertgoers seemed
no less enthusiastic when the duo, along with their four-member band,
turned
their attention to material off the new cd. sometimes this meant ray
assuming
front-and-center posture, especially on the mandolin-driven "trouble"
and the
punk-edged "compromise." she toned it down slightly to do justice to the
fierce
ballad "faye tucker," about the first woman executed in texas since the
civil
war. saliers showed she hadn't lost her ability to have fun as she led a
rollicking "peace tonight," the single from the cd that is now enjoying
ample
radio play.

   a three-song encore ended with "galileo," which once again had the
audience
singing more loudly than the performers. no one seemed to mind, however.
it was
all part of this particular "la vida loca."

   opening act mrs. fun, a duo that consists of a drummer and a
keyboardist,
helped get the crowd into a good mood with their infectious funk
improvisations
and out-there christmas tunes.

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                     copyright 1999 chicago sun-times, inc.

                               chicago sun-times

              december 03, 1999, friday, late sports final edition

indigo girls get political with their newest album
by mark brown


   the big buzz on the new indigo girls album is that they've gone punk.
and amy
ray would kinda like to dispel that notion, but kinda likes it, too.

   sure, you'll find a harder edge in spots of "come on now social" than
you've
found before, especially on driving cuts such as "go" and "compromise."
yet it's
still full of classic indigo girls songs and sound, from the lilting
"soon be to
nothing" to the gorgeous, poignant hidden track, "the philosophy of
loss."

   "we always wanna change things up, every record," says ray, one-half
of the
world's most famous duo of lesbian singers/songswriters/activists. so
she and
partner emily saliers gave in to the urge to rock a little harder than
the
previous hits "closer to fine" and "get out the map."

   it's all the sweeter when fans call "come on now social" the best
album the
duo has ever produced.

   and it was almost by accident. they met sinead o'connor's drummer,
john
reynolds, while on the lilith fair tour and had "that conversation you
have
where you say 'we should get together and jam sometime.' before we knew
it, we
were making a record with him," ray says. "we had this whole band that
we were
introduced to by him. he really changed our whole careers."

   on previous records, "i hadn't really tapped into specifically what i
was
trying to get at. when john popped up and said 'you wanna experiment?' i
said
sure, i can't lose."

   while some artists try to recreate their most successful songs, the
indigo
girls decided to plow forward.

   "our main concern, first and foremost, is songwriting," ray says.
"past that
point, we're so open to try anything. we never really worry about what
was a
past success. the only thing we worry about is if we're moving too far
away from
our hearts. do we still have the spirit? as long as we have that,
anything goes.

   "it's funny because i think it's rockin' -- in that even the acoustic
stuff
has this thing about it -- sorta like when steve earle does an acoustic
record.
it's still rockin'," ray says. "to me it's really bold; the record
sounds very
committed to me, like we meant what we did."

   they also find themselves in a strange spot with guest artists joan
osborne,
meshell ndegeocello, garth hudson, sheryl crow, rick danko and more
popping up
on the album. these kind of collaborations are what the indigo girls
have done
for years, but suddenly artists such as prince and santana have turned
such
collaborations into a marketing trend, further blurring the line between
community and commerce.

   "it's just the way we operate; it's all about jamming and stuff," ray
says.
"people can tell if you have ulterior motives; they can just feel it.
when you
get in a room with someone who's a musician, you're sharing. all that
business
stuff kinda goes right out the window."

   in a way, that's another contradiction. despite their years of
collaboration,
both ray and saliers are fiercely independent in their writing, with
neither
contributing so much as a line to each other's tunes. "we rarely even
comment on
each other's arrangements," ray says. "we write our songs, then we bring
them to
the table. then we work together to create something that's an indigo
girls
song."

   "come on now social" is full of those, but it has moments even more
politically charged than the atlanta duo's previous work. one song
stirring
controversy is "faye tucker," a reflection on the executed texas
murderess who
last year became a cause celebre both to the christian right and to
death-penalty opponents. convicted of a heinous killing, tucker got
attention
for her gender, her good looks and her jailhouse religious conversion.

   ray wrote the song the day of tucker's execution. by coincidence, she
found
herself in las vegas, pulling the levers on slot machines as the
executioners
were pulling the lever on tucker's life. she's afraid people will see it
as a
knee-jerk reaction to the execution rather than a look at the complex
moral
issues surrounding it.

   "some people don't get it and some people don't understand that i'm
trying to
point those (contradictions) out."

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                      copyright 1999 journal sentinel inc.

                           milwaukee journal sentinel

                          december 3, 1999, friday all
indigo girls stay close by staying apart
dave tianen

   it's a partnership that thrives at a distance.

   the indigo girls are now 10 years and seven albums into their
major-label
recording career, but their friendship goes all the way back to
childhood. they
started singing together in high school and did their first recording
while
attending emory university in atlanta in 1985.

   obviously, emily saliers and amy ray are a team that has endured and
even
thrived. but they are also very distinct and separate personalities. all
of the
songs on their new epic release, "come on now social," were written by
one or
the other. they do not co-compose. if pressed a little, saliers will
admit that
she doesn't always even know exactly what her partner's songs mean.

   "separately is really the only way we can write," saliers explains.
"we might
choose different keys, different chords; we might even work at different
times
of day. what happens is we hear each other's songs in progress, and by
the time
we do a rehearsal we're ready to make the best of each other's ideas.

   "we have a very deep love and respect for each other but when we go
off the
road we tend to stay away from each other. even on the road, in hotels
we stay
away from each other. we each have our own circle of friends and things
we like
to do."

   one of saliers' favorite activities on the road is going out and
finding new
restaurants. recently, she took that enthusiasm a step further by
opening a new
restaurant with a group of friends in an atlanta suburb. she describes
the
watershed as gourmet seasonal and says it offers a mix of vegetarian and
meat
entrees. when she's not touring saliers likes to spend her time at the
restaurant.

   "it's my little pipe dream. i really enjoy it. it's something totally
different from my day job."

   a little folky, a little rock, a little country, "come on now
social," is
both typical indigos and also a cut above. many observers are calling it
their
finest outing to date. entertainment weekly says it was an "artfully
crafted
effort" and the boston globe calls it "an album full of surprises and
flush with
indelible, gorgeously crafted compositions."

   and as is usual with the indigos, "come on now social" comes with an
array of
strong political and social viewpoints. "go" is a call to activism for
the
younger generation.

   "ozilline" uses ray's grandmother to illustrate both the strength and
the
burdens of the aged. "faye tucker" is about karla faye tucker, the
double
murderer executed in february of 1998 in texas despite numerous pleas
for
clemency from prominent religious and political figures.

   saliers' own views on capital punishment turn out to be a little more
complex
than the song might suggest. she readily admits that the pain of
victims'
families can't be ignored or dismissed and she believes that there are
some
people who need to be locked up for life.

   "it's very easy to turn to revenge. i think, what if somebody
murdered my
mother; that's the first thing you might go to. but i don't believe in
an eye
for an eye and i can't support state murder. it's a very heavy and
complex
thing."

   as anybody who has seen them at lilith fair can testify, the indigo
girls
have a devoted, ardent fan base they connect with on a visceral level in
concert. but it is largely a "girls" club. that's probably not going to
change
any day soon.

   "we do have some male fans," saliers says. "we get the occasional
errant frat
boy. we have a lot of guys who will come up and say 'i'd like your
autograph for
my wife or girlfriend.' you probably have to be a little brave to be a
guy
indigo girls fan."

   the indigo girls will appear at the riverside theatre at 7:30 p.m.
wednesday.
local favorites mrs. fun will open. tickets for the indigos are $34 and
$29 and
may be purchased through ticketmaster or the riverside box office.

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                    copyright 1999 the seattle times company

                               the seattle times

                    november 14, 1999, sunday final edition
it's fan frenzy with the indigo girls -- charismatic duo bring a
wealth of songs, styles

jennifer mulrean; special to the seattle times

the
indigo girls swept into town friday night on a wave of all-out,
just-this-side-of-frenzy rock jams, leading the 5,000-odd fans who
gathered at
mercer arena through an hour-and-a-half set mostly derived from their
recent
album, "come on now social."

   it wasn't a difficult task the indigo girls had before them: whipping
their
fans into a delirious fury with songs like opening number "trouble," and
the
electric "go." both gave center stage to amy ray's blistering
showmanship and
husky vocals. ray was in top form with her arresting, foot-stomping
performance
of "faye tucker," a song about the first woman executed by the state of
texas
since the civil war.

   the indigo girls brought a wealth of songs and styles to their first
concert
here since bumbershoot. certainly, the pair makes for a charismatic duo,
with
the sardonic ray and sweetly sublime emily saliers' personalities
carrying
through their vocals.

   on friday, it was old favorites such as "least complicated" and
"closer to
fine" that best showcased their striking harmonies, as did the newer
tune
"sister." it's a sharp contrast to most of the other songs on "come on
now
social," which seem to highlight instrumentation over voice - something
that
didn't always work well in the live show, as the mandolin and cello were
too
easily lost in the mix.

   newer songs that saliers took lead vocals on, such as "philosophy of
loss,"
tended to be somewhat less rockin' than those ray fronted, which could
have
proved less engrossing if it weren't for her undeniable talent as a
singer and
guitarist. both ray and saliers held the audience captive from start to
finish,
with the crowd's eager sing-alongs nearly overwhelming their voices.

   backing up the duo friday night was a fairly new set of faces,
including
clare kenney on bass and carol isaacs on wurlitzer and keyboard. both of
these
artists joined the indigo girls for the new cd after meeting through
fellow
lilith fair veteran sinead o'connor. cellist caroline lavelle simply
blew
everyone away with her fierce playing on "shed your skin." that song
proved to
be a highlight of the evening with funky bass lines and horns thrown in
- the
latter courtesy of a guest appearance by barbara marino of the billy
tipton
saxophone quartet.

   for the encore, the indigo girls asked opening act the butchies back
onstage
for a playful cover of an old joan jett rock ballad, before closing with
the
earnest classic "galileo."

   it's easy to understand how they've built a fan base that, according
to the
band's web site, has bought more than 7 million cds in the past 10
years. indigo
girls concerts are an invitation to mull over everything from women's
rights and
gun control to stargazing and unrequited love, only to throw up your
arms and
dance. and laugh. as the closing song went, "it's only life after all."

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i still have an extra ticket for the milwaukee show on wednesday.  if
anyone wants it, please email me.  we can arrange to meet somewhere
outside the venue.  thanks.
----------------------------------------
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i think darius is definitely right here...i've had great luck in small venues
meeting artists - barbara kessler, dar, cry cry cry, rose polenzani, patty
larkin...i also learned it doesn't hurt to chat with the band members..when i
saw patty griffin at the warfield she opened up for johnny lang and i left
after her set but was hanging around the back door chatting with the
drummer...who was from boston and went to unh..so we were chatting and he
took me backstage to meet patty..it was very cool :) and if you can get
backstage to meet the girls, they are so damn sweet :) lisa

<<  the trick is bumping into them in the first place -- the folk scene,
there are less people, thus smaller venues, so people tend to be more
approachable.

    darius >>

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peace,
karen

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i'll try not to ramble too much, but here's a quick review of my weekend
in mn and wi:

on friday night, i was sitting in mcdonald's in eau claire trying to
figure out how to get to the concert, and i saw a woman with a "girls
kick ass" baseball cap on, so i figured that was a good enough guess
that she and her friends were going to the concert. i wandered over and
asked two of the women who were sitting down, "by the way, you wouldn't
happen to be going to the ig concert, would you?" and one of them said,
"are we ***that*** obvious?"

to make a long story short, they ended up being friends of our very own
sheryl jones, and i hung out with them for most of the weekend! i love
random listee encounters!

anyhow, highlights from eau claire (since no one has mentioned it...):
the concert was in a gym, so the acoustics weren't great, but the view
was wonderful! we were in the side bleachers, which meant no heads in
the way, and a great view of the stage. i think it was equivalent to
13th row at berkeley, if not better. the absolute highlight was "i don't
wanna know" with emily playing banjo (i think). i just about died! the
girls seemed very happy and had "worked out at the ymca that day", to
which i thought, damn! i'd love to be there for that! amy had on her
world-famous black tank top, light checked pants (i think) and a black
and white striped shirt. emily was wearing a blue jean shirt and jeans
(i think).

minneapolis had a very similar setlist, but they played "i don't wanna
know" again, and ghost (*sigh*) and burn all the letters in the encore
with mrs. fun (the opener). they also played "johnny rotten", although
not as fast as at berkeley, and "nuevo senorita" which i had never heard
live before, just the two of 'em on stage... it was gorgeous. i almost
cried.

my major complaint about the mn show was that everyone sat during go and
trouble and the third song (whatever it was). i couldn't sit still - go
is such a dancing song! (not to bring up the old sit-or-stand debate or
anything!). but the audience did get more into it later, and it was a
ton of fun.

the highlight for me was definately getting to meet sheryl and her
friends - it was so much better than going to the shows by myself and
they were a ton of fun to talk to!

another funny moment was when emily was introducing peace tonight. she
said, "here's a little ditty..." and someone in the audience yelled
"jack and diane!" they laughed and emily said, "no, not jack and diane.
but that's a song about the loss of innocence, and this is... well, i
guess it just a song about having fun..."

it sounded like she was trying to connect the two and utterly failed,
but it was cute nonetheless.

they both looked fabulous! amy was wearing the tank top (well, probably
a different one) and a plain red shirt and what looked like really light
khackies. (i know i spelled that wrong!) emily had on a black t-shirt
and her black and white camoflauge pants and a blue shirt over it. they
were very patriotic looking. :) and em also had on the blue sparkly eye
shadow.

so that's my story and i'm sticking to it.

love,
amy

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on mon, 6 dec 1999, k. asiu wrote:

> hey y'all,
>
> i went to see toy story 2 the other day and there was a character dressed
in a chicken suit hawking toys in the movie.  he was, of course, referred to
as "chickenman"  and i started laughing hysterically as soon as the name was
uttered on screen, much to the dismay of the people i went to the movie with
(non-ig fans to say the least).  nothing like being looked askance at by a
theatre full of 9 year olds <sigh>...ever have the feeling like you were the
only one at the party?  anyway, thought i'd share with people who had a
chance at understanding my amusement.
>
> peace,
> karen
>
> icq:4378249   aim:altec27

teehee!  i went so far as to sing the chorus to my 2 year old niece, until
her 6 year old sister shussed (sp?) me.  :)

kelly,
just read the entertainment weekly article about the hidden jokes in the
movie...

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wendell,
        i'd like a copy of your debut cd, it's always fun to hear up and
coming artists :) also, it's not a shamelss plug, i have many starving
student musician friends who use similar tactics. anyway, should i mail
you a cd to copy or how do you want to do this? anything works for me,
thanks-danielle


on sun, 5 dec 1999, raven simone wrote:

> hey everyone,
>
> all this talk about songwriting is prompting me to offer up my very own
> debut cd that i made in my little studio apartment last month. it's an
> acoustic 12 song cd of originals that i wrote over the last couple
> years.  my main influences are of course ig, paul simon, ani, vic
> chesnutt, bob dylan, pet shop boys....  so if you like blatant
> plagiarism, you'll like my cd.  it's called, "wendell lee: i want to be
> in a band"
>
> anyway, email me if you want a copy.
>
> thanks,
> wendell
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hello everyone.
here are my thoughts on the st. louis show.  mrs. fun was the opener.  i'm
sorry if this offends anyone, but in my opinion, that was just racket!  that
is all i have to say except mrs. fun wasn't *fun* for me.

now for the good part.  this was the first show since their thanksgiving
break, and the girls sure seemed ready to play.  they were all smiles and
oohs and ahhhs over the crowd getting into it.  both a & e were incredibly
"on" throughout the entire show.  the only thing was during po2, e made a
mistake--no big deal--just one wrong note on her guitar.  perhaps they hadn't
played it in a while.  she made a horrible face then amy laughed at her.  i
really like the new band.  i love how they had a & e just by theirselves in
front.  they seem to feed off each other more this way, which is why i've
always preferred to see them w/ out a band at all.  but this was excellent.
they even did a few songs w/ just the two of them and the band waited off
stage.  the show was excellent.  i finally got to see ghost live.  it was
fantastic!
as for the audience, for the most part, it was great.  people sang out at the
appropriate times like on ctf, but remained respectful quiet on songs like
ghost.  and i must say a & e were especially grateful for this it seemed.
they would say "thanks for listening" and give a cheerful thumbs up to the
crowd.  there were some disrespectful "teenie boppers" right in front of me
who seemed to think it would get them noticed by amy if they stood up and
danced the entire time.  i'm all for standing to show your appreciation or in
an especially enthusiastic number, but to stand and block others' view
throughout a show is just inconsiderate.  these four rude girls, it turned
out were not even the rightful owners of the seats!  when ig only had about 4
more numbers to go in the show, this couple showed up to claim their seats.
they were obviously "fox club members" who have the $$ to buy tickets to
every event of the season.  they were plainly straight and dressed to the
nines.  they apparently had become bored this particular evening and ventured
out to the theater.  they were completely taken aback w/ all the folks they
saw around them.  they began by staring around, noticing the lesbian activity
around them.  then, they started looking around, amazed at everyone singing
together, knowing every single lyric.  they twice got their coats and
belongings as if to leave, and each time the woman said, "wait, i just want
to hear this song."  they ended up staying for the entire show and ended up
clapping and smiling and having as much of a good time as everyone else.
fashion report:  amy--white jeans (tight ;), black either tank or tube top
something of this kind, long sleeve blue shirt over it.  looking incredibly
hot, especially late in the show when she rolled up her sleeves, showing her
fore arm tatoo.  some funky blue boots!
emily--black, black black!!!  she looked fine, dressed in black pants and a
long sleeve black shirt.  couldn't see the shoes for a speaker or something
in the way.

this was the first time i've ever been close enough to see the girls'
expressions.  what a treat.  amy smiled at me once too.

the st. louis post dispatch gave ig an excellent review, claiming that
although ricky martin (blah) was playing just a few miles away, the some
three thousand at the fox and ig were living our own "la vida loca."

set list (as i remember):

*--these are the only songs that were in order as they were played.

*go--hard rocking great opener
*trouble--a second hard rocker to prepare everyone for the energetic show
soy--amy let the crowd sing the "...i keep $&#*ing up" part
stbn
cb & rc
land of caanan--wonderful surprise, just a & e by themselves
ghost--haunting, w/ only a & e and the cello, as backing.  wow, wow,
wow--emily is all i can say!!!!
compromise--amy was rocking and reeling on this one!
peace tonight--emily said, "this song is about being w/ friends, pitching
tents by the trees, and just having a good time....naked!" (crowd goes wild)
ctf--of course, a big sing along
gotm--emily was all smiles as the crowd sang along
scooter boys--amy gave some soc, but i couldn't make out much more than
...mother *#*&ers..."
the song on cons before compromise--amy sang it in its entirety by herself
playing the mandolin
po2--nice to know they can laugh at each other and themselves
3 hits--awesome!
mystery--a request for someone in the audience who had lost a family
member...the crowd and the girls were very respectful of this.  they played
very quietly and intensely.
faye tucker--wow!  amy!  emily jammed, the celtic sounding voice on the cd,
emily did on her guitar!
*galileo--what a song to close with---of course this was one of i believe
either 2 or 3 songs in the encore.
i may have left some out.  it is from memory.  they played a full 90 minutes.

i believe this was the best show i've ever seen.
thanx if you made it this far...

peace,
toye

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ozillene...they played this at st. louis

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hi again...daemon is having a sale! i think i already posted about this - lol
- but i was just checking out their site and there is some cool stuff at
reduced prices...there are a couple of $6 cd's and $3.50
cassettes...including some new mongrels stuff..
https://www.daemonrecords.com/beta/buy.html

:) lisa

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this is to the very kind gal who is doing the card exchange.  sorry to have
to post this to all of ya.  i am such a goof sometimes! my mail with all the
names in my group got deleted. i was wondering if you could contact me. i was
hoping that perhaps you had a copy of that list and could resend it???? i
would really appreciate it.  i have them all made out and not sure who to
send them to. thanx again.
tina

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more on ig chicago concert:

-they have a local guy played harmonica during chickenman, and he did a great
solo in the middle. does anybody remember his name?
-the girl that did the country song for the 2nd encore song brought a cheat
lyric sheet to the stage. if i got a chance to share the stage with ig, i'd
be able to recite the lyrics backwards.
-the fans behaved very well. no one yell during quiet songs. i'd wish more
people would stand up and dance though.
-michelle malone is better than ever. what a great voice she has!!

hope they'll be back to chicago very soon!

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>>if i got a chance to share the stage with ig, i'd be able to recite
the lyrics backwards.<<

whereas i, know me, would be so nervous i wouldn't be able to remember
my own name much less song lyrics... lol!

jean

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> more on ig chicago concert:
>
> -they have a local guy played harmonica during chickenman, and he did
> a great
> solo in the middle. does anybody remember his name?
> -the girl that did the country song for the 2nd encore song brought a
> cheat
> lyric sheet to the stage. if i got a chance to share the stage with
> ig, i'd
> be able to recite the lyrics backwards.
> -the fans behaved very well. no one yell during quiet songs. i'd wish
> more
> people would stand up and dance though.
> -michelle malone is better than ever. what a great voice she has!!
>
> hope they'll be back to chicago very soon!
>
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so.  cat power (chan marshall) has got a new record coming.

>she's calling it "the
>covers record" because, yes, it's all covers. it features
>chan's take on 12 tracks by the rolling stones, michael
>hurley, bob dylan, velvet underground, nina simone and cat
>power among others. covering herself? yup. that's how good
>it'll be. due in stores march 21, 2000.

that's the good part.
the annoying part is:
>in the meantime, cat power will be touring in australia.
>mushroom will be re-releasing "moon pix" in anticipation of
>the tour with these three bonus tracks: "kingsport town" -
>radio aligre sessions france 10/98; "schizophrenia's weighted
>me down" - from the uk cd5 of "nude as the news"; "sea of
>love" - from everything is nice. those of us outside the
>southern pacific archipelago will have to claw our way
>through the import bins.

being that i am one of those on the outside of said archipelago,
and living in an area not so very reknowned for its import bins,

would one of the list aussies be willing
to come up with some arrangement whereby
they snag me a copy of this album
and i send them payment (international money order, i guess) and candy,
boots, much love, locks of hair, or whatever they deem fair?

please? :(

kisses from a stuffy ohio computer lab--
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1) if you've sent me discs because you offered to be a branch for the
huuuuuuge cdr offer i'm doing, you should have had an email from me. if not,
or you want to offer your services (it's not too late), let me know.
thankee.

2) diane - i just discovered i have your umbrella (the rest of you - don't
ask). how shall i get it back to you?

that's all folks!

neil
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from: lia kueck <aeig2317@hotmail.com>

ps...hi sarah! it's wierd how we always manage to run into eachother.

hi! it is weird. what's it now...three shows?
just wanted to add one thing to the chicago posts, ( i haven't read all
them so forgive me if this has been mentioned) amy went off on a funny
tangent about how she liked the earlier james bond movies, the ones w/ sean
connery best cause the women were "buxum, more like normal women, i mean
not that normal women are buxem but they weigh more than one hundred pounds
and i can relate to that becasue i weigh more than one hundred pounds and i
can relate to that (she sounded liek she was going to go on forever until
emily interjected: " let's talk about feminism" in that sort of airy silly
voice she sometimes uses. also, later on emily says: something about "our
band whom we love. whom we love. we love them. okay."
emily looked really beautiful, by the way, and johnny rotten was
incredable!!!!! i have an amazingly clear boot of this concert as i was
near the sound board. it gets grainy in parts but it's amazing how much of
ig's converstaion it picked up and how little audience noise was recorded.
if anyone has some nice photos of this show (lia?) or video photage of any
show i'd love to trade.
looking forward to the milwaukee concert (6th row!),
sarah

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hey guys?  (amy swenson i know you were there.  great post !)  was
anyone else at the mpls show, cat got your tongue?  lol.  i
was glad i got to sit half the show,  i  can't stand very long,  and
would not have been able to see,  had the people danced the whole show.
just a thought.  (so. to all the dancers  who  sat,  thanks.  and life's
tough.)

peace,

barb

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the girl who brought lyrics onstage had an amazing voice and kelly hogan
was wonderful. (she played at the chicago suffragette session too.) i was
so glad that the audience was as respectful as they were. amy and emily
loved it when the audience whistled and yelled during kelly's song, showing
their appreciation for someone other than ig. fashion report since no one
else mentioned it:
amy same as eau claire, i think. black tank, charactoristic necklace (think
she takes it off at night?) striped overshirt, checked pants, blue shoes,
emily- glitter three necklaces, the black outfit.

amy was being really goofy, doing overstated gestures during different
songs. but am i the only one who misses her dark hair...a lot!?

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hello,

speaking of toy story 2, there is also a more obscure ig reference in
the movie.  after the toys realize the kidnapper is "chickenman",
etch-a-sketch draws a map and buzz points to the map and says, "that's
where i need to go".  from the wood song!!

i used to work there, that's how i know that.

bye,
wendell

ps, you can still get my cd if you want.  it will be available forever.
and it's free! almost...

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>from:    lisa r <lisa071573@aol.com>
>subject: advocate letter
>
>hi y'all - ok i think i have read all the digests in my in-box but if not
>forgive me if this is a rerun...there is a nice letter to the editor in the
>new advocate (12/21/99). a couple issues ago they had a feature of the
>advocate's 25 coolest women and the girls were a no-show. (tori, melissa,
>martina (tennis goddess), and ellen & anne all made it.)

unfortunately, the selections were based on a survey at
<http://www.advocate.com>.  if we had known about it, i'm sure they
would've been there...

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well during my usual "i need some brain candy" study break between
statistics (aka sadistics) and coffee (yes i know i drink way too much!) i
composed the following.  enjoy:

'twas the night before christmas, when all through the house
everyone was resting, even the mouse
the guitars were propped off stage with care
in hopes that ig soon would be there
the fans were nestled all snug in their beds
while visions of amy ray danced in their heads
and em with her thoughts and amy with her pen
were planning the set list in the downstairs den
when out of the black there arose such a clatter
i sprang to my feet, hoping for a mad hatter

away to the stage i flew like a flash
expectations so high, "what the heck had been smashed?"
the guitars reflecting the exit-light glow
gave a lustre of crimson to objects below
when what to my wondering eyes should appear
but a miniature guitar-bearing reindeer
with a little ol' mic & a buddy named prancer
i knew in a moment that this must be dancer
more rapid than punk, his chords they sang
and he whistled and shouted an' cried out song names:

now trouble, now joking, and down by the river
on wood song, on ghost, on compromise, and sister
to the top of the roof, to the top of the wall
now dance away, dance away, dance away all

as dry leaves before a wild hurricane fly
when they meet with an obstacle, mount to the sky
so up to the house top - the chords they flew
through broken strings and a guitar switch too
and then in a twinkling i heard from behind
amy and emily come to witness my find
as we turned to face this marvelous sight
dancer cried out, reaching a high note with all his might

we stood for a moment, emily tapping her foot
while dancer sang on and prancer threw soot
a song about love, a song about hope,
hell, he even threw in a girl in a boat
his eyes how they twinkled, his antlers how brown
his heart like a champion, his feet off the ground
his lyrics soul-filling, his song so quick
i was awaiting a cameo by no other than st. nick!

the small little pick held tight in his hoof
the sound rose up so we thought he'd raise the roof
he had a thin face, and a little black nose
that grew redder each note, slowly turning to rose
he was tiny and taut, a right fit ol' deer
so caught up in it all, we'd lost our fear
a wink of his eye and a twist of his head
soon let us know we had nothing to dread

he finished his song, prancer backing him up
and with his closing chord, produced a tin cup
we filled it with pennies, nickels, and lint
pockets now emptied, he muffled a sigh -- his lungs now spent
prancer sprang to his side, taking a bow
dancer followed off-stage, is there an encore now?
but into the black they went out of sight
and we heard a whisper-"thanks y'all, good night."

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raven simone wrote:

> speaking of toy story 2, there is also a more obscure ig reference in
> the movie.  after the toys realize the kidnapper is "chickenman",
> etch-a-sketch draws a map and buzz points to the map and says, "that's
> where i need to go".  from the wood song!!
>
> i used to work there, that's how i know that.

you used to work where?  al's toy barn?  pixar?  i'm confused.

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if you're planning to go to the ig show in columbus on 12/11/99, be sure to meet us for a
list meet prior to the show.  here's the details:

the spaghetti warehouse
397 w. broad street
columbus
5:00 pm - meet for dinner
7:00 pm - leave for concert
7:30 pm - concert vets memorial

please confirm and let us know if you'd like to meet us at the spaghetti warehouse.  if
so, let us know your name, how many in your party and when you plan to meet us.  we will
reserve a table based on the number of those who respond in advance.  we'll call in the
reservations by thursday, so be sure to let us know before then.

directions:
71 south to exit 108b rt. 40 broad st.
take a right and head west on broad street
after crossing high street, you'll go under a bridge
the spaghetti warehouse is located on the left along the bridge
parking and entrance is in the rear of the parking lot
if you'd like to call to double check the directions (and i'd recommend it if you're not
sure)
call the spaghetti warehouse: 614-464-0143

if you get totally lost or need to call last minute, call 614-209-9030.   we have a .gif
map that might help you out that we can email to you on request.

vets is located minutes from the spaghetti warehouse and we'll figure it out from there.

see you there!

barb and twink!


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>http://www.exxon.com/contact/index.html
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>if you would like to make a _public_ comment likely to be seen by some
>investors, company management, and employees:
>http://messages.yahoo.com/?action=q&board=xom
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okay, compared to karen and wendell's igc, it may sound a little bit of a
stretch.

i thought it was cool that jessie the cowgirl's owner's name was emily, and
woody's owner's name is andy.  it was kind of apropo, that jessie was
longing for an owner the way the girl longed to be loved by andy(in emily
saliers' song).  also, sarah mclachlan sings a sweet song during jessie's
flashback to her happy days with emily.

diane - who was happy to have heard "we are together"(again) and "peace
tonight" on wxpn a couple weeks ago, just as she turned on the radio.

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here's a preview article from the bloomington (ind.) herald-times, sunday,
12/5/99. (also available on the web:
http://www.hoosiertimes.com/stories/1999/12/05/scene.991205_d1_jjp19052.sto)

there's one picture, but it's just one of the "ig's in a green cornfield"
promo shots.

reprinted w/o permission, blablabla.

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                                                         december 5, 1999

   indigo girls color music with heart

   the arts of life: michelle henderson
   the indigo girls. courtesy photo

   getting a handle on the indigo girls isn't too difficult. just pick up
   a music magazine or type the group's name into an internet search
   engine and you'll see reams of information on its' members social and
   political views.

   it might be emily saliers touting the rights of the zapatistas,
   mexico's mayan indians who are fighting to stay on their land against
   the force of mexico's usa-backed government.

   or it might be amy ray waxing about how her song "don't give that girl
   a gun" is about a sad break-up with a lover. she didn't mind
   discussing her lesbianism but was totally against revealing her
   lover's name. it's the principle of the thing -- privacy and all.

   the folk-pop duo has always worn its social activism on its sleeves.
   since leaving the indie-circuit a decade ago and emerging into the
   musical big leagues, they've continued airing their views, including,
   among many, the rights of women, gays and indigenous people as well as
   the need for environmental protection and gun control.

   "we read a lot," ray said, explaining what motivates the group both
   lyrically and in their choice of causes to support. "we talk to a lot
   of activists that we really trust and who know what's going on in
   various circles.

   "and we work on movements that are grassroots -- organized from
   the bottom up and that are community-oriented. we like to join
   movements where the people are politicized, the people have the power
   rather than just some executive person at the top. and issues that
   have a far reaching impact."

   obviously, it sounds noble, but most interesting to me as a listener
   is the fact that their whole politicization rarely detracts from the
   music itself.

   their amalgamation of heartfelt lyrics, broad musical styles and
   haunting melodies have made them a hit on epic records.

   "when i'm writing a song, i'm trying to write the best song that i can
   write," ray said. "i'm trying to say what i want to say, but really,
   i'm just interested in writing a good song. it's not, how do i make a
   good statement."

   their latest release, come on now social, says it all for them. it's
   their seventh release on epic, and the title is not one of the album's
   songs.

   it's taken from a line in a song written by ray that seemed to capture
   the spirit of the album, she said. it's an invitation, a call to act.

   "the title is me, speaking to myself, wanting to be more of the world,
   more activist and more with others," ray said.

   and the album tackles everything from the group's rejection of capital
   punishment in "faye tucker," a song about the 1998 execution of
   texas's first female prisoner since the civil war, to "ozilline," a
   tribute to ray's grandmother and others living with disabilities.

   musically, the album is boss. they've collaborated with drummer john
   reynolds and cellist caroline dale, both former sinead o'connor band
   members.

   their celtic influences fit right in with the indigo girls' love of
   appalachia-inspired tunes, and reynolds' hard-hitting rhythmic
   influences added a new element.

   add to that guest appearances by musicians like sheryl crow and
   me'shell ndegeocello and it's rocking.

   the indigo girls will appear at the indiana university auditorium
   thursday night at 7:30 with the butchies as opening act.

   "we always pick our opening acts and we pick them because we think
   their music is amazing," ray said of the butchies. "it's three women,
   and they're electric. they're out of a punk movement but they're very
   melodic, so i sort of call them melodic punk. really good song writing
   and good words. it's a good time to see them."

   michelle henderson can be reached by phone at 331-4371, or by e-mail
   at mhenderson@heraldt.com.

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<< amy was being really goofy, doing overstated gestures during different
songs. but am i the only one who misses her dark hair...a lot!? >>

well i liked the brown hair but i love the blondish highlights :) she looks
awfully sexy these days :) :) :) lisa

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just a reminder for those in the atlanta area that cooper seay will be
playing at smith's olde bar tonight.  smith's is located on piedmont road, in
atlanta.

the doors are at 9:00 pm, show should begin approximately 9:30/10:00.
admission is $5.00, plus 2 cans of food.

should be a really great show!
=)
lisa

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for those in the atlanta area.....

the radio station 99x (which has recently added 'trouble' to their playlist!)
has a something special planned on december 16th.......................

it's a bit complicated, so here goes:

you had to have bought the cd box set "project x", which came out a few
months.  you can still buy this at the best buys in atlanta.  cost is $19.99.
   inside that cd box is something called a "big ticket".

take that "big ticket", and go to the radio station between the hours of 8:30
and 5:30, monday through friday.

they will give you two free passes to see the indigo girls play at the star
bar in little five points, on december 16th, at 3:00 pm.   note that this is
an early afternoon show, *before* the first show at the tabernacle that night.

the tickets are limited to the first 100 people who go to the station,
limiting the admission to 200 people.

and if you've been to the star bar, you'll know how very cool this show is
going to be!!!!

you might want to also call the radio station to see if they still have
tickets before making the journey down there.   check out their website at
http://www.99x.com for directions to the station, info on project x, and
phone numbers to call them.

=)
lisa

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i think that amy doing side projects is healthy.  her and em have been
playing to gether for like 20 years now...  it is only normal to want to
try something a little different... i once saw an interview with the
girls...they were asked what keeps them together... and they responded
with "the fear that the other one is going to want it to end...."  i
tell you what i will be one of the first people waiting to buy that
album...
peace and love,
         carie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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hey everyone,
i've been wanting to find out more about kelly hogan since i saw her in
jcs - amazing voice.  does anyone know if she has a website or albums i
could possibly get in australia?
any help appreciated, sorry about the nigc.

thanks,
maddie

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ok, it's 9 am in columbus and i'm dancin', i'm dancin', (dancin' up to the
bright side??) 'cause i'm in the cd101 big room w/the girls on sat.  can i
hear a woo hoo?!?  me, 20 or so other folks, and two girls and two guitars.
how happy am i????  ok the rest of you--on the phone!  last time we had
about 10 listees at this gathering.  go, go, go!!!

lisa

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seriously, it's only life afterall."--emily saliers

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this whole situation is why i want to be in atlanta.  no one understands
why i miss it...  nothing like that ever happens in silly little
harrisburg pa...arrggghhh...
frustrated in pa,
        carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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...so i thought i'd share some facts to brighten up everybody's day...
1)according to glaad, the company created by the merger between mobil and
exxon will not include domestic partnership benefits, nor will it include
sexual orientation in its non-discrimination policy. on the latter, when a
company spokesman was asked why not, he replied "where do you stop?". the
mobil corporation had offered domestic partnership benefits previously, but
exxon had not: those employees and their partners already enrolled in
mobil's program will retain their benefits.

2)there is a boycott on against crown gas as well. check it out at
http:\\www.crownboycott.org . that's the cheapest gas around here, too...

3)according to a forward i got this morning, cnn has reported that within
the next two weeks congress is going to vote on allowing telephone companies
to charge a toll fee for internet access.  also, under proposed legislation
the u.s. postal service will be attempting to bilk email users out of
"alternate postage fees", under the theory that they are losing revenue
because of e-mail. they would charge a 5 cent surcharge to the isps on every
e-mail delivered, and the isps would in turn have to bill the users. i know
that with undated forwards there is always the possibility that the issue
came and went, and i haven't explored the validity of this one yet, but i
thought i'd mention it...if anyone wants to see the forward i'll send it.

on another topic, sonia has two songs in an independent movie for kids that
is airing on hbo, hbo family, showtime etc. this month, called frog and
wombat. check it out (i don't have a tv)
have a nice day
sarah

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well, you can add meredith brooks to the list. she is just one of the nicest
people i have met in a long time- actually, she struck me as a 40something
year old teenager when i talked to her.

too bad i don't like her music all that much.
meredtih


hicktruckdriver <dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> wrote:
on mon, 6 dec 1999 starr@netvision.net.il wrote:

> that got me wondering - what *is* it with niceness and the folk
> scene?  or is it just the non-mainstream-pop scene?

   well, almost all of the mainstream folks i've met have been really
nice, too.  robin wilson of the gin blossoms, bb king, nils lofgren (the
other guitar player in the e street band), and dylan -- all were really
nice folks.
   the trick is bumping into them in the first place -- the folk scene,
there are less people, thus smaller venues, so people tend to be more
approachable.

   darius

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> she also said that emilyh would play on it, so it
>  may be a solo album in name only!

...and i got the inside scoop from kaia that amy has asked the
butchies to play on the solo album, too--i can't wait to hear the
finished product!  anyone know of any good songs to help a
stressed student get through this period of finals and term papers?
(need not be indigo) good luck to all who are in the same exam boat as me...
peace and caffeine,
pony

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just a passing thought...i'm listening to nomads indians saints at work, and
i decided to put forth the argument that this album is the one called upon
least when ig bring old songs back into the setlist. offhand, i'd say the
only thing i've heard live is you & me of the 10000 wars, though i could be
misremembering. this has always been one of my favorite albums. any
thoughts?

sarah

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--- memememi@aol.com wrote:
> for those in the atlanta area.....
>
> the radio station 99x (which has recently added
> 'trouble' to their playlist!)
> has a something special planned on december
> 16th.......................
ah!  this is not fair at all.  i leave to go home that
morning at 7am.  i was already upset because i missed
them in athens for a regatta, then i was missing them
by mere hours on the 16th, but twice now!!  i hope the
rest of y'all enjoy it.  i'll be on the airplane to
eugene listening to ig on my walkman. hey, it's as
close as i'm gonna get...
laurel
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>4)amy had this solo on a song that you actually hear a mini-clip of on
>cons.  it's that one where she plays a snippet and then goes--wooo.  i
>think it's called jonnie rocket or something like that.  it was
>interetsing.  lots of energy and mandolin-ing.  i love raw amy.

i had no idea what to expect from this, but it was kind of cool.  just amy
pounding the holy heck out of her mandolin; anyone else get the idea that
this is how her songs get created?


>5)girls were in a fine mood tonight.  they had one particularly chatty
>banter with the crowd in between songs.  emily apologized for green bay
>"kicking y'alls ass today" refering to the packers beating the bears.

but before that, amy went into this spiel about james bond movies...emily
asked her if she'd watched the football game, and amy's like "no, i sat
around and watched james bond movies all day!  the old ones.  i like the old
ones, because the women in them didn't weigh 100 pounds, and, well, i don't
weight 100 pounds, so i can relate (she then named a james bond character,
but having seen none of the movies, i wouldn't know which)."

then emily chimes in, "hey, let's talk feminism".

after a few shows this summer where they said little more than "thanks,
y'all", it was nice to see them engaging in some heavily loopy
banter...michelle malone was chatty, too...maybe it was something in the
air...something about, oh, all those big plush tinkie winkies sitting out in
the lobby...

rock on,
shel

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>-they have a local guy played harmonica during chickenman, and he did a
>great solo in the middle. does anybody remember his name?

actually, that was the dave that we were all beefing about on the list a
couple of years ago...y'all remember him?

>-the girl that did the country song for the 2nd encore song brought a cheat
>lyric sheet to the stage. if i got a chance to share the stage with ig, i'd
>be able to recite the lyrics backwards.

i thought that was kind of odd, too.  i'd think, since they were doing a
cover, and they wanted to spotlight her, they'd do something that she knew
the lyrics for...or that she would have practiced some more!

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--- carrie knepp <indigo4me@webtv.net> wrote:
> this whole situation is why i want to be in atlanta.
>  no one understands
> why i miss it...  nothing like that ever happens in
> silly little
> harrisburg pa...arrggghhh...

yeah!  and it's not like those of us out of town can
take advantage of offers like that!  i feel your pain!

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well, i accidentally deleted the post about (nigc) about the mobil - =
exxon merger & the fact that mobil, which previously has allowed =
domestic partnership benefits will no longer with the merger.  =
naturally, exxon has not offered such benefits and will not do so with =
the merger.

all i can say....

one more reason to not to hang out at the local exxon.

unfortunately, we just lost more gas stations (mobil).  oh, well.

melissa

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on tue, 7 dec 1999, sarah pinsker wrote:

> 3)according to a forward i got this morning, cnn has reported that within
> the next two weeks congress is going to vote on allowing telephone companies
> to charge a toll fee for internet access.

   so, uh...why did we want to derail the wto talks again?
   naaah, that 4-8 year moratorium on all internet-related taxes wasn't a
good idea.

   darius

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they don't have any tickets left for anyone who wants to know.

weeping aloud,
heather
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date: tuesday, december 07, 1999 8:32 am
subject: ig to play at star bar 12/16 (atlanta)


>for those in the atlanta area.....
>
>the radio station 99x (which has recently added 'trouble' to their
playlist!)
>has a something special planned on december 16th.......................
>
>it's a bit complicated, so here goes:
>
>you had to have bought the cd box set "project x", which came out a few
>months.  you can still buy this at the best buys in atlanta.  cost is
$19.99.
>   inside that cd box is something called a "big ticket".
>
>take that "big ticket", and go to the radio station between the hours of
8:30
>and 5:30, monday through friday.
>
>they will give you two free passes to see the indigo girls play at the star
>bar in little five points, on december 16th, at 3:00 pm.   note that this
is
>an early afternoon show, *before* the first show at the tabernacle that
night.
>
>the tickets are limited to the first 100 people who go to the station,
>limiting the admission to 200 people.
>
>and if you've been to the star bar, you'll know how very cool this show is
>going to be!!!!
>
>you might want to also call the radio station to see if they still have
>tickets before making the journey down there.   check out their website at
>http://www.99x.com for directions to the station, info on project x, and
>phone numbers to call them.
>
>=)
>lisa
>
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>so what's up with that?  in selfish take-all-you-can-get america,
>where a child's first word is "more" or "me", where did this
>come from?  folkies can't be all that different from other people.
>  theories, anyone?

michal and all,

it's been my experience, too, that folkies are, as a lot, some of the
coolest, carringest people i know.  i'm fortunate, living in chicago, to
spend much time at the old town school (for the uninitiated, it is a huge,
community folk music school, through which many folkie cool-bees have passed
through) and it (staff, students, and open mic'ers) has become something of
an extended family for me.  there's something sacred when 100 people get
together in a room to listen to music without pretense and ego, when people
get up and sing a cappela tributes to dead friends, play songs that they've
learned from family or friends, or play the first song they ever wrote with
the only three chords they know.  i swear, i'm losing my ability to be an
art snob--bring on the rawness.

ditto for some of the people i've met through the open mic "scene".  it took
me a good three months before i could play through a darn song without
messing up, but the hosts and other musicians have not once said, "you
suck"...we talk to each other as human beings, which, in the middle of a
city of three million, is something i never dreamed would happen.  there is
a genuine sense of caring, which i think has something to do with doing this
all for the passion and not the ego (or the money), with finding what your
heart wants to do and doing it, all practicality (or consciousness in the
morning) be darned.

about to get booted off the server, so i'll go.

take care all,
shel

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>--- carrie knepp <indigo4me@webtv.net> wrote:
> > this whole situation is why i want to be in atlanta.
> >  no one understands
> > why i miss it...  nothing like that ever happens in
> > silly little
> > harrisburg pa...arrggghhh...
>
>yeah!  and it's not like those of us out of town can
>take advantage of offers like that!  i feel your pain!

then there's those of us who actually are in town and can't go anyway.  work
anyone?  i've been feeling a bit sick and have taken too much time off
already, so i couldn't leave early for this anyway.  see, being in atlanta
doesn't always help.  thought maybe this would cheer someone up!


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unless you seen it on cnns site dont beleive it this hoax hgas been going
around a while


on tue, 7 dec 1999, hicktruckdriver wrote:

> on tue, 7 dec 1999, sarah pinsker wrote:
>
> > 3)according to a forward i got this morning, cnn has reported that within
> > the next two weeks congress is going to vote on allowing telephone companies
> > to charge a toll fee for internet access.
>
>    so, uh...why did we want to derail the wto talks again?
>    naaah, that 4-8 year moratorium on all internet-related taxes wasn't a
> good idea.
>
>    darius
>
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this is another one of those internet scams. for the
complete history go to:
http://www.snopes.com/spoons/faxlore/internet.htm
to check and see if something else that's circulating
is for real or not go to:
http://www.snopes.com/info/current.htm
all of these pages can be accessed from the
urban legends page: (under 'currently circulating')
http://www.snopes.com/

> 3)according to a forward i got this morning, cnn has
> reported that within
> the next two weeks congress is going to vote on
> allowing telephone companies
> to charge a toll fee for internet access.  also,
> under proposed legislation
> the u.s. postal service will be attempting to bilk
> email users out of
> "alternate postage fees", under the theory that they
> are losing revenue
> because of e-mail. they would charge a 5 cent
> surcharge to the isps on every
> e-mail delivered, and the isps would in turn have to
> bill the users. i know
> that with undated forwards there is always the
> possibility that the issue
> came and went, and i haven't explored the validity
> of this one yet, but i
> thought i'd mention it...if anyone wants to see the
> forward i'll send it.
>
> on another topic, sonia has two songs in an
> independent movie for kids that
> is airing on hbo, hbo family, showtime etc. this
> month, called frog and
> wombat. check it out (i don't have a tv)
> have a nice day
> sarah
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hi everybody:

wow, i can't believe the atlanta shows are only a little more than a week away.

since some of us are traveling for the shows, i thought it would be a good idea
to start a little early on putting the list meets together.  i've only been on
the list since august, so this would be my first time meeting anyone and i would
really love to meet you.

would anyone who lives in atlanta like to volunteer on this?  i have been
communicating with a couple of other people  from out of town so if you want to
let me know, then later we can post it on this list once everyone decides, that
would be great.

also, can anyone tell me what time we need to stand in line for general
admission?  i won't be checking in until 3:00 on thursday.  i was kind of hoping
people wouldn't start showing up until at least 5:30 or 6:00.

thanks
counting the days,
cathy

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because they are a secret organization whose actions affect the lives of
millions, if not billions of lives around the world. they allow no input
from groups interested in responsible trade. that is my beef. free trade
could be great for my business because you would not believe the tariffs on
some of the stuff i import. but i don't want it if it is coming from places
where the prevailing wage is 20 cents a day and the workers are 8 and the
toxins from any production is being dumped in the water...

so the main thing is, free trade must be fair trade.

oh yeah, there is an organization forming to make sure the city and police
is held accountable for their actions during the wto protests. there will
also be a peace march this sunday at 1pm starting at sccc, email me for more
info or to sign up for the egroups mailing list.

and news flash: police chief norm stamper resigned! (we can now mark that
off our action  lists).

ryan

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> on tue, 7 dec 1999, sarah pinsker wrote:
>
> > 3)according to a forward i got this morning, cnn has reported
> that within
> > the next two weeks congress is going to vote on allowing
> telephone companies
> > to charge a toll fee for internet access.
>
>    so, uh...why did we want to derail the wto talks again?
>    naaah, that 4-8 year moratorium on all internet-related taxes wasn't a
> good idea.
>
>    darius
>
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ryan blackhawke wrote:
>
> because they are a secret organization whose actions affect the lives of
> millions, if not billions of lives around the world. they allow no input
> from groups interested in responsible trade. that is my beef.

i guess i'll feel more optimistic when there's a world labor
organization to balance all the market and trade communities.  as it
stands now, those working to fill the pockets of the corporations have
little or no say in any of the decisions made that affect them.

hell, i'd be happy if npr would devote as much time to labor issues as
they do wall street.

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--- sarah pinsker <spinsker@goucher.edu> wrote:
> 3)according to a forward i got this morning, cnn has
> reported that within
> the next two weeks congress is going to vote on
> allowing telephone companies
> to charge a toll fee for internet access.  also,
> under proposed legislation
> the u.s. postal service will be attempting to bilk
> email users out of
> "alternate postage fees", under the theory that they
> are losing revenue
> because of e-mail.

i couldn't find anything specifically about either of
these, but did see where a bill was introduced in the
spring that would prohibit charging fees for internet
access.  anyhoo, if someone would like to research
this, here are two sites where you can research
pending bills, etc.:
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.html
and
http://congress.nw.dc.us/cgi-bin/issue.pl?dir=voxcap

if either or both of these bills becomes law, i think
it is going to be bad news for the areas already
underserved by the internet.  if the government's goal
is to see that every child is on the internet,
especially children in rural areas, this will
effectively put an end to that, unless the federal
government is going to kick in funds to subsidize the
fees.  if these are indeed pending bills, i doubt they
will be passed.

peace!


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on tue, 7 dec 1999, ryan blackhawke wrote:

> because they are a secret organization whose actions affect the lives of
> millions, if not billions of lives around the world. they allow no input
> from groups interested in responsible trade.

   i do agree with that -- there needs to be transparency to the process.

> that is my beef. free trade could be great for my business because you
> would not believe the tariffs on some of the stuff i import. but i don't
> want it if it is coming from places where the prevailing wage is 20
> cents a day and the workers are 8 and the toxins from any production is
> being dumped in the water...

   will tariffs help that?  we've levied protective and/or punative
tariffs before and can do it again, but they only work if people stop
buying the stuff -- depending, most might just bitch about the high
prices, and buy it anyway.  it's not like the higher cost is going towards
feeding those workers.
   instead, the us government siphons it off, which does nothing to
improve the condition of the workers, unless the government uses it to buy
ak-47s for the underpaid 8 year olds so they can revolt for themselves.

> so the main thing is, free trade must be fair trade.

   how would you make it fair?

   darius

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date:         tue, 7 dec 1999 15:20:07 -0500
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this was sent to me as the melissa ferrick list owner, but is also relevant
to the ig and jane siberry lists.  this is for real, i was at a ferrick
show where they were taping with professional equipment, this is not a home
movie!

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>date: tue, 7 dec 1999 11:34:54 -0800 (pst)
>from: "t. kerr" <loveofrock@yahoo.com>
>to: indigo@mindspring.com
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>
>i wanted to give you the web address of a new site
>that will feature melissa ferrick.  it is
>http://www.loveofrock.com.
>
>for the love of rock:  a documentary in the making...a
>film by wendy tumminello & lynda allen is edgy and
>explosive. for the love of rock brings together the
>personal stories of passion, frustration and triumph
>of some very courageous women who are standing up for
>their accomplishments and demanding the respect they
>deserve.  for the love of rock captures the personal
>stories of several female musicians including melissa
>ferrick, michelle lewis, moxie, toni blackman, jane
>siberry, jane paradise, amy ray, brenda kahn.
>
>link to us, help us spread the word and complete the
>process of making this film.


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date:         tue, 7 dec 1999 14:24:35 -0600
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anyone know who's opening in milwaukee?

thanks,
margaret

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i love nis. it was my favorite, then dropped to no. 2 when sots came out.  now
it and sots share the top spot of my all time favorites.

on tue, 7 dec 1999, sarah pinsker wrote:

> just a passing thought...i'm listening to nomads indians saints at work, and
> i decided to put forth the argument that this album is the one called upon
> least when ig bring old songs back into the setlist.

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hi,

i have 3 tickets for each night at the tabernacle that we can't use.  they're
ga tix and i'd just like face value.

thanks,
carlisle

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"margaret a. clayton" wrote:
>
> anyone know who's opening in milwaukee?
>
that would be mrs. fun, opening in their hometown.

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more info on the movie below... if you can't attend this fundraiser, and
you want to see this film completed, please go to
<http://www.loveofrock.com/the_wall/the_wall.html> to find out how you can
contribute.  and if you're one of those people who has everything, ask your
friends and family to send a contribution for you instead of buying a
holiday gift!

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>date: tue, 7 dec 1999 12:31:01 -0800 (pst)
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>to: deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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>
>make sure you join our mailing
>list and we will keep you posted on the happenings of
>the film.  there is a fundraising concert coming up in
>new york.
>
>   the mercury lounge
>   217 east houston st. nyc
>   (212) 260-4700
>   bookings: (212) 260-1214
>   january 14, 2000
>   friday
>   time:  8:00pm -
>   12:00am (doors
>   open at 7:00pm)
>
>   tickets:  $15.00
>
>   performing artists from the for the love
>   of rock:
>
>   doria roberts
>   melissa ferrick
>   michelle lewis
>   brenda kahn
>   moxie

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i was thinking i sent this earlier, but i don't see it
in my mailbox, so i guess i didn't! :)

--- sarah pinsker <spinsker@goucher.edu> wrote:
> 3)according to a forward i got this morning, cnn has
> reported that within
> the next two weeks congress is going to vote on
> allowing telephone companies
> to charge a toll fee for internet access.  also,
> under proposed legislation
> the u.s. postal service will be attempting to bilk
> email users out of
> "alternate postage fees", under the theory that they
> are losing revenue
> because of e-mail.

i did some preliminary research and couldn't find
anything about either of these(and by now it seems
that it may be a scam), but here are two sites where
you can research pending bills, etc.:

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.html
and
http://congress.nw.dc.us/cgi-bin/issue.pl?dir=voxcap

actually, a bill was introduced in congress in the
spring that would have prohibited such fees.  i don't
know what ever became of it, though

peace, and have fun!


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anybody got a pic of amy with new hair?  i wanna see.

~~jennifer
***************
"here's to the motherfuckin revolution!"
  -amy ray
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subject: amy's hair


><< amy was being really goofy, doing overstated gestures during different
> songs. but am i the only one who misses her dark hair...a lot!? >>
>
>well i liked the brown hair but i love the blondish highlights :) she looks
>awfully sexy these days :) :) :) lisa
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wow! what an excellent idea! maybe we should make that a condition on our
next contribution...

ryan

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> behalf of graham ames
> sent: tuesday, december 07, 1999 10:53 am
> to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
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>
>
> ryan blackhawke wrote:
> >
> > because they are a secret organization whose actions affect the lives of
> > millions, if not billions of lives around the world. they allow no input
> > from groups interested in responsible trade. that is my beef.
>
> i guess i'll feel more optimistic when there's a world labor
> organization to balance all the market and trade communities.  as it
> stands now, those working to fill the pockets of the corporations have
> little or no say in any of the decisions made that affect them.
>
> hell, i'd be happy if npr would devote as much time to labor issues as
> they do wall street.
>
> --
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what do you think?....

i went into the weekend with high expectations.  pamela and i were
meeting up with some friends that we had first met at the concert in
saratoga springs.  kate and jane frequent the epic board and a chat room
on delphi.
we rented a hotel room in eau claire and waited for kate and jane to
come.  before we went to the concert, we had a jam session.  i was
nervous because it was the first time i'd played with anyone but it was
a blast.  a couple of hours before the show we went over to mcdonald's
to get a bite to eat.  amy swenson from the mailing list was there.  she
saw kate's "girls kick ass" hat and someone connected her to jane and
pamela who were sitting at the table while kate and i ordered.  pamela
invited her to the show.

the show was awesome.  people have posted setlists, so i won't bother
with that here.  the venue was tiny.  we were sitting on the side
bleachers but still had a great view.  i had binoculars to get even
closer.  amy looked great in her black tank top.  emily had on glitter
eye shadow.  they were really on musically, lots of screaming from amy.
highlights for me were "compromise" and "i don't wanna know".  there was
an soc during "scooter boys".  the song lasted ten minutes.  the crowd
was absolutely fantastic.  they cheered in the appropriate places, stood
the whole show and listened quietly when necessary.  the girls were
extremely chatty.  they talked about working out at the way and that
their bus driver told the it was pronounced "you claire" (it's really "o
claire").

the next morning pamela and drove to minneapolis.  kate, jane and amy
had gone on ahead of us.  we met kate and jane at a friend's place to
jam some more.  remember this name: carla sloan.  the girl is
incredible.  she is only twenty years old but she can play the hell out
of a guitar.  she writes and sings as well.  she used to be in a band
called urban rust, but now she's on her own.  she's working on a solo
cd.  anyway, we had a blast checking out restaurants, music and
bookstores in minneapolis.  we met amy at the amazon bookstore and then
went to a gift shop in the gay section of town.

i guess i should mention the show by now :-).  northrop was a bigger
venue--very nice, fancy old theater.  the crowd was kind of a let down.
i couldn't believe when they sat during "go".  however, the girls were
as on as ever.  the most amazing part of the evening was when they did
"nueva senorita".  i just stood there with my mouth hanging open.  it
was so incredibly beautiful it left me breathless.  they were even more
talkative than they were in eau claire.

both nights the opener was mrs. fun  they are very talented and good at
what they do--kind of a jazz/blues/rock fusion thing.  the drummer is
especially incredible.  most notable is their rendition of "jingle
bells".

it sure was hard to come home and get back to regular life!

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hey folks,

forwarded from the news-only list...

-sherlyn

---begin forwarded message---
>date: tue, 07 dec 1999 01:43:50 -0500
>from: flora brown <flora_brown@brown.edu>
>subject: [ig-news] emily's "1999 top 10 list"
>
>cdnow has announced various artists' "top 10" (of anything) lists, and one
>of these artists is emily!  there is a list of her top 6 albums of
>'99.  there is also a very cute little pic of her.  (and, cons is listed as
>one of kate schellenbach's top albums).
>
>http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/redirect/leaf=allstararticle/fid=158120
>
>                       indigo girls, emily saliers
>
>                      1. luscious jackson, electric honey
>                      2. cibo matto, stereo-type a
>                      3. rage against the machine, the battle of los angeles
>                      4. tlc, fanmail
>                      5. michelle malone, home grown
>                      6. fiona apple, when the pawn ...
>

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i don't know,  it seems to me the girls themselves used a cheat sheet
while still learning  bury my heart at wounded knee,
on an honor the earth tour. sooo.

that loudgirl writes <<i thought that was kind o odd too. i'd think
since they were doing a cover,
and they wanted to spotlight her, they'd do something she knew the
lyrics for...or that  she would have practiced some more for.>>

peace barb

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i couldn't believe when they sat during "go".


is that possible...i didnt know that could be done...
those people did not deserve to be at that show...how insulting.  i mean the song clearly says "don't take a seat"...
...sigh

carla  :o■

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at 10:31 am 12/7/99 -0500, you wrote:
>just a passing thought...i'm listening to nomads indians saints at work, and
>i decided to put forth the argument that this album is the one called upon
>least when ig bring old songs back into the setlist.


i'm not sure whether it is the least called upon (perhaps a tie with
strange fire?) but i think you're right - you'd think there would be more
nis in the shows. what about watershed? such a classic ig song. i love some
of the amy stuff on nis as well.

it strikes me as strange because when i sit down to play my guitar i
usually play _lots_ of nis stuff without even thinking about it. i wonder
why a&e pass it by?

-sue

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