lifeblood: listlogs: 1999-12c


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date:         tue, 14 dec 1999 19:49:30 est
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from:         tina crawford <tenaindigo@aol.com>
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hey!
i am really enjoying reading all the posts of the recent shows.  makes me
wish they were  back in seattle again!   i am posting to kinda vent to all of
you who will understand how upset this makes me.  my car was broken into and
my cd player was stolen out of it.  wich allthough it was an expensive one,
that is not what makes me the saddest.  i had in the player at the time, one
of my ig bootleg cd's, the 9:30 club and more vol 1.  :( allthough my g/f was
more upset about the cd player being taken, she thinks i am silly for being
more upset about the cd being gone. this is the second time my car has been
broken into the first time it was parked outside the gay bar and i had like
20 cd's stolen. anyhow, hope you are all staying safe and warm wherever ya's
are.  its cold and rainy here as usual.
take care
tina

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 13:26:26 +1200
reply-to:     emiray saliamy <ig_boogy_babe@chickmail.com>
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subject:      ig's in aussie confirmed!!! march not may though
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http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/ confirms igs in sydney on the 9th of march at state theatre... yay!!

unconfirmed 3rd of march - concert hall melbourne...

coool!!!

i wonder if they are coming to nz... hmmm...


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on sun, 12 dec 1999 15:40:10   anne maynes wrote:
>for aussies on the list,
>
>i saw an ad in saturday's paper for ani difranco touring in febuary.
>she'll be in brisbane on feb 6.  check your papers for when she's near
>you!!

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date:         tue, 14 dec 1999 20:28:17 -0500
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hey..

i just wanted to share the fact that i'm listening to ani on broadcast.com
live from dallas.  :)  i love this realplayer thing! :)  first i get to
hear melissa ferrick sing what might just be the sexiest song i've ever
heard live, but now i get to hear live ani.  hopefully i'll be around this
weekend to hear the girls live.

kelly,
pointless and trying to scrub the ink off her hands after stamping 16 ig
holiday cards. :)

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 12:41:09 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

emiray saliamy wrote:
>http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/ confirms igs in sydney on the 9th of march
at state theatre... yay!!

i just called ticketmaster... tickets go onsale on december 20th.

whoohoo,
sherlyn
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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 13:58:08 +1200
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>>http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/ confirms igs in sydney on the 9th of march
>at state theatre... yay!!
>
>i just called ticketmaster... tickets go onsale on december 20th.
>
>whoohoo,

cool! so whats the best way to buy tiks? esp if you're not in aussie?

and did you find anything out about the melbourne one? apparently they have "special guests"...? i couldnt find anything more online...

im trying to find out more about any other shows... and if they are coming to new zealand!!!

c'mon now!!

yeehaa, l


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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 14:44:53 +1200
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>http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/ confirms igs >in sydney on the 9th of march at state >theatre... yay!!
>

tiks on sale dec 20th... as per sherlyn


>unconfirmed 3rd of march - concert hall melbourne...
>
tiks on sale dec 21st... how/who/where though i have no idea!! try the venue and let us know!


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date:         tue, 14 dec 1999 20:16:26 -0700
reply-to:     115_17@asu.edu
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from:         vivo de milagro <115_17@asu.edu>
subject:      re: ebay and selling boots
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yes, i noticed also this weekend that someone was selling a copy of a video
that i made for them of early tv shows.  i ditto what sheryl has just said
about trading.  i go out of my way at times to offer to make videos for people
who i see are bidding outrageous amounts on ebay for something that can be had
for free and not at the expense of the ig.  please do not sell any boots or
copies of boots on ebay for profit that someone on the list has made for you.
we are doing this simply out of the kindness of our hearts, because we were
once in the position of wanting some boots and having none and intimate
strangers were kind enough to share with us.  also please consider the
generosity of the ig in granting us the freedom to make and trade boots as
long as we do not profit from said activity.

gram

on tue, 14 dec 1999, sheryl jones wrote:

> i was just browsing ebay yesterday and was very disappointed to see
> someone selling a video i had made for them.  for future reference, any
> boots i make for people are made with the understanding that they will
> not be sold.  i don't believe in selling boots and i feel this makes me
> an unwilling accomplice in doing so.  if i find out that you have sold
> boots that i made for you, i will no longer trade with you.  please be
> considerate of my wishes.  thank you.
>
> ----------------------------------------
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> sjones@library.wisc.edu
> url: <http://www.geocities.com/felidae>
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date:         tue, 14 dec 1999 22:54:57 est
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in a message dated 12/14/99 3:34:03 pm eastern standard time,
telane@trigon.com writes:

<< some people were asking about stickers.  my friend lynn had some 'ig' ones
made - you know, the little oval kind like the obx ones for 'outer banks'
and 'mv' ones for martha's vineyard?  they're cool.  i can't remember how
much they cost, but i think she's selling them for only a little over cost -
like a buck or two per sticker.  email her, not me for details or to buy one
at: ledillard@yahoo.com >>


i bought three of her stickers and really like them    :)

indi

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date:         tue, 14 dec 1999 23:12:21 -0500
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from:         nancy lambert <armydillo@mindspring.com>
subject:      re: [fwd: jesus christ superstar]  vligc
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> >>daemon profits from the initial purchase<<
>
> actually, as in the case of the jcs video and others, daemon doesn't
> profit, the profit goes to a number of charitable causes.  so when you
> buy something on ebay that could buy from daemon, it's not daemon that
> loses money.

not to mention that daemon is not for profit so even if the $$ didn't go to
charity (which it does go to charity) the money goes to the bands on the
label.

nan

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 15:27:36 +1100
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from:         amanda tink <atink10@scu.edu.au>
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hi all,

on wed, 15 dec 1999, emiray saliamy wrote:

> >i just called ticketmaster... tickets go onsale on december 20th.

tickets cost $48.25.

can someone please keep an eye out for ig dates in brisbane?  i'd prefer
to take the short train ride from lismore to there for the concert if it's
possible.  but i'll take the long train ride to sydney if that's what it
takes!
thanks for any help.
take care,
amanda.

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date:         tue, 14 dec 1999 23:32:01 -0500
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we just got in from our 6th ig show.  i'm sure i feel this way after every
show, but i'll say it anyway...this was the best show i've seen.  the crowd
was wonderful, much better than the last time they were in louisville.  the
girls were energetic, talkative and smiling.  my sweetie stole a poster.
there were lots of them in the bar and by the bathroom, but by the end of
michelle malone's set all but one of them were gone.  kim took it.  at the
end of the show i asked sully for a set list and got the last one.  i'm in
heaven.

amy said they let the band pick the set list for the night. she said they
always get to play the songs they want to play, so they thought they would
let the band pick the songs they wanted to play tonight. this might explain
the title on cold beer.


here is the set list.

go
trouble
three hits
peace tonight
chickenman
wood song (1st time for us to hear this live)
sister
least complicated
shed your skin
closer to fine
ozilline
soon be to nothing
i don't wanna know
cold beer  & set list trauma
faye tucker
get out the map
shame on you

encore
you and me of the 10,000 wars (one of my sweeties favorites)
gone again
galileo

was there anybody else from the list there?

rhea of

kim & rhea

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but the question drowns in its futility, and even i have got to laugh at
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date:         tue, 14 dec 1999 23:34:40 est
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plus, the copy being sold by the vendor was initially purchased from daemon,
yes.  that sale and it's donation have already been made.  however a copy you
as a buyer purchase directly from daemon is another sale/donation towards the
causes - to paraphrase wrigley's, double the goodwill.  one point i didn't
see being addressed much... have a great day everyone

~lola (nickname, but as i am a new member i'll let the other lisa retain her
seniority :o)

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date:         tue, 14 dec 1999 23:41:34 est
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hey y'all, excuse me if i'm being stupid here...

i was just wondering if anyone could give me some information on how or where
it would be possible for me to buy/trade/whatever for the early recordings
set (or any one of the three individual albums). it's a gift...birthday not
christmas, so not a huge rush here...i don't want to do anything that's going
to cheat the girls or rip them off (i could never do that to them), but if
there's some legal and honest way to get them then i'd love to know about it.
i'm not real sure what the deal is, so please excuse my ignorance. anyway, if
anyone could point me in the right direction i'd be more than grateful.

thanks y'all
piper

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date:         tue, 14 dec 1999 23:47:06 -0500
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it pains me to see several auctions at any given time of the mesa (az) and great
woods (pay-per-view) shows.  i have managed to get some shut down if the seller
was stupid enough to put their origins in the description, but most of them
don't.

what i have begun to do if it is obvious that ebay won't stop them, is to leave
a neutral feedback on their user id describing their illegal practice.  you
can't leave a negative feedback unless you're a bidder on their item, but anyone
can leave a neutral one.

maybe someone will actually look at their feedback and not buy from them.  maybe
epic and rcam will get their collective heads out of their asses and do
something so that ebay will stop these video pirates.

who knows...

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 00:10:45 -0500
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p.s.
be warned that this method will not make you very popular with the folks doing
the selling.  within minutes of leaving a *neutral* feedback, i received a
rather nasty and vulgar message from one which included a threat of revenge of
some sort.

quaking in my boots,
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date:         tue, 14 dec 1999 21:21:15 -0800
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>>and e-bay supposedly has some recourse against people who e-mail
others and tell them they're paying too much<<

really?  i do this all the time ;) they haven't caught me yet <g>

jean

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date:         tue, 14 dec 1999 16:13:42 -0500
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didn't mean daemon personally profits from them.  meant the tapes are paid
for the 1st time around, ya know?  how could they profit selling things so
cheap an i am fully aware of their charitable works !  simply saying that
although you can get items another way than e-bay at time, those options are
not open to everyone, the world round.  lots of differing situations.

>>>daemon profits from the initial purchase<<  (snapper)
>
>actually, as in the case of the jcs video and others, daemon doesn't
>profit, the profit goes to a number of charitable causes.  so when you
>buy something on ebay that could buy from daemon, it's not daemon that
>loses money.
>
>i buy and sell on ebay too, and i do think for some things it's a great
>way to pick up things you otherwise couldn't get.  but some things you
>can get another way.
>
>jean
>
>
>
>

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 01:31:52 -0500
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hey y'all,
i was wondering if anyone who's maybe from atlanta or has been to the
tabernacle could help me out with a few questions i have about the
concerts thursday and friday.
first, does anyone know about the parking?  does the tabernacle have a
good bit of parking or do people have to park on the street or what? if
it doesn't have much parking, does anyone have any ideas as to where to
park?
second, we're trying to find a place to stay thursday night, so if
anyone knows of any cheaper hotels that are pretty close to the
tabernacle, please let me know.
any help would be very very very appreciated! =)
thanks so much,
sharon

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i amtaking a break reading postings to comment that i saw part of a
documentry done by amy and emily.  it is on video and  there clips from the
early days to today.  they talk about their writing and the are interviewed
part of the time while they are playing pool.  they also show their music
videos and talk about how the created them and the process that they went
through.
oh, once again i came home without ig. kind of sucks because i don't have the
craving to listen to them at school, but when i am home it is a different
story.
oh and i love the christmas cards that i have gotten so far. they kick!

tat

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 02:39:59 est
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i found this.  it is a site where u can find ig post cards and send music
with it
http://www.epicrecords.com/epiccenter/custom/83/postcardsfr.html
tat

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subject:      aerin tedesco's cd release party - dec 15 at nietzsche's in
              buffalo, and other great news
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my friend aerin tedesco is releasing her first cd, angels and allegories,
tonight at 9 pm at nietzsche's.  i'll be guesting on color blind, which will
likely be the opening number, and is also the opening track on the cd.
aerin is a wonderful singer-songwriter who has already recorded three
cassette releases.  her voice sounds a bit like melissa ferrick.  visit her
website at http://pce.net/mischenk for more details.

sunday, dec 19 at 8 pm, also at nietzsche's i'll be sharing the evening with
the incredible pamela ryder.  and on christmas eve, starting at 9 pm, again
at nietzsche's, i have a wonderful lineup of artists including aerin, katie
miller, lea prentiss, tina crapsi, david baldwin, dominic mangone, rose
bond, leigh stoner, kearney fitzpatrick, and russian hands & roman fingers.
informative paragraphs on all of these artists and more can be found on my
new missing lynx artist pages site listed below.

finally, pamela and i have been asked to play at this year's artvoice music
awards on wednesday, dec 29 at 7 pm at the tralfamadore cafe at theater
place in buffalo.  it is a huge thrill for both of us....

peace,
tim

please visit my web pages...

the havana moon web page:       http://angelfire.com/ny3/havanamoon
the katie miller web page:        http://angelfire.com/ny3/katiemiller
the pamela ryder web page:       http://angelfire.com/ny3/soulryder
the missing lynx artist pages:  http://angelfire.com/music/missinglynx

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ok since we're on the ebay thing...for any tori fans - there's this one guy
that is a real prick..he does a lot of trading then sells copies of the shows
on ebay and makes a lot of money doing this...his id is mikectw and/or palace
cooling. there are plenty of tori fans who will trade boots - especially
cdr's so please don't waste your money.

:) lisa

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if you are true collectors ebay is a fabulous place to get ig stuff so
you should check it out!  people don't twist your arm to make you buy
the stuff so it is up to you what you wanna pay and if you wanna buy it.
just like if you went into a record store and found stuff on ig they
dont make you buy it either (but you do!)---same thing with ebay, it is
your decision, no one elses!-------you will find all kind of stuff and
well worth the price and stuff that is extremely rare and hard to get on
ebay!   what you collect and where you get it is completely up to you
but dont miss out!   lynn

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reprinted without permission from this week's atlanta creative loafing
(12/15/99):
(you can find this online at http://www.creativeloafing.com)

=)
lisa

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social gathering
the indigo girls live long and prosper with community and commitment

by lang whitaker

12/18/99

indigo girls amy ray and emily saliers
michael halsband
in these days when radio's roost is ruled by teeny-bop sugar pop and white
rap-rockers trying to be fly, breaking through the crowded play lists and
getting air play is harder than ever, even if you have something socially
relevant to say. just ask decatur's indigo girls.

ten years ago, when amy ray and emily saliers released their eponymous first
record of earnest, harmony-heavy folk-pop, they immediately began building a
devoted fan following that has continued billowing throughout the decade.
they've sold over seven million albums and tallied six grammy nominations,
and their latest record, the relatively eclectic come on now social displays
a growing maturity while it has garnered plenty of critical acclaim. but
don't expect to hear the indigo girls on your radio.

"radio is really strange," says saliers, on the phone during a recent tour
stop in denver. "it's completely corporate-run, and companies own a handful
of stations, so they control all the advertising and the playlist. so, it's
harder than ever to get played on radio. it's just kind of soulless right
now, if you ask me."

a few days later in st. louis, ray echoes her bandmate. "we're pretty
disillusioned with radio," she says. "i think with the telecommunications act
in the early '90s, and all the mergers ... there's not a lot of substance
there."

for a band that thrives on substance, clearly this is not good news. the
indigo girls have always written songs about pressing issues, such as their
dark take on recently executed texas murderer karla faye tucker ("faye
tucker"), and the duo has been heavily involved in environmental activism,
including their 1995 and '97 honor the earth benefit tours.

but despite the message and commitment in their tuneful music, radio has, for
the most part, turned a deaf ear. "they'll tell you there's a radio format
for everyone," ray notes, dryly, "but that's like saying there's five
different kinds of frosted flakes, or there's peanut butter cap'n crunch and
chocolate cap'n crunch. but it's all the same."

part of the indigo girls' problem breaking through radio stems from the fact
that they refuse to play the image games that most popular artists endure to
help generate publicity. from tour to tour, album to album, saliers and ray
go out each night in worn blue jeans and t-shirts, wearing the same shaggy
haircuts. and they don't see that changing any time soon.

"image is not a large part of what we present," saliers says. "amy and i are
really about the songs and going into the studio and making the best record
we can make, and then taking it out on the road. we're still a grass roots
band, and i think our fans would wonder what we were doing if we did our hair
all different or started wearing new clothes. it's just not something we do.
i find that sort of thing quite inspiring and interesting in other artists,
but for us, it's just not natural."

ray and saliers also admit their reticence to participate in the wacky
promotional carousels that many radio stations spin, even if that means
giving up possible air time. "we have relationships with certain radio
stations that have been good to us," saliers says, "but we're not going to do
some crappy morning show where they make fun of you on the air or talk about
bodily functions. it's just not worth it."

"we do the things that are fun," ray adds. "radio stations do contests now
where 15 winners get to go hear a private show, and we love doing those
because we get to play, and it's not based on who can afford to buy tickets,
it's based on who wins. those are good because they're listener-oriented and
they're not elitist. but the game is pretty demoralizing, because if you play
it to the extent that they want you to, i think you wake up one day and you
realize you crammed your music down everyone's throat, and you don't know
whether they liked it or not."

still, for a relatively mainstream group that manages to stay under the radar
of most mainstream music outlets, things could be a lot worse. over the
decade, the indigo girls have managed to carve out a place for themselves to
do what they do without much interference from the forces of corporate
politics in the music business.

given the room to do things their own way, the indigo girls have evolved at a
comfortable pace. come on now social, which features tracks with muted drum
loops and complex rhythms, represents something of a departure for ray and
saliers. in addition to first-time production collaborator john reynolds, a
drummer who previously worked with sinead o'connor, the album features guest
appearances by joan osborne, sheryl crow, me'shell ndegeocello, the band's
rick danko, middle eastern singer natacha atlas and luscious jackson drummer
kate schellenbach. the introduction of new voices and players into the duo's
familiar sound has naturally impacted it.

"but," saliers says, "it's not like we've done a drastic turn or made a
complete appalachian album, whereas on this album there a couple of songs
that are totally appalachian in vibe. i think this is a really well-produced
record, and there is plenty of diversity within the songs."

of course, diversity is relative when you're dealing with an artist best
known for writing campfire favorites. despite dressing up their new batch of
songs with flourishing beats and layered guitars, the songs remain the same,
especially structurally. ray has always tended to write little punk ditties
camouflaged in birkenstocks and frayed bell-bottoms, and saliers has always
leaned toward wistful songs of longing. they both continue these patterns on
come on now social, suggesting that despite being willing to take on
society's ills, they find comfort within their own conventions.

while social flirts with a more commercial sound, neither increased sales nor
radio play have materialized. that, however, suits the indigo girls just
fine. "i think epic records would love for us to have a huge hit, which we've
never had," saliers says. "but because we sell alright and we recoup [the
company's investment] -- and in time each record eventually goes platinum --
the record company is satisfied with that. they've got other artists, like
rage against the machine, that sell three or four million, and we just keep
plugging away. we're just a little grass roots band. so they don't put any
pressure on us. but i think if we didn't sell any records, they might try to
force us to play the game. or they might drop us like they drop other
artists. that's the name of the game: sell, sell, sell." saliers pauses,
before adding, "it's pretty bleak."

what makes the bleakness worth enduring, though, is the chance to play live.
touring invigorates the indigo girls, allowing them to reconnect each night
with their core audience. "the fans are what makes doing all of this worth
it," saliers says. "so i feel very grateful for our career."

"we have a cool audience and they're pretty open-minded," ray again echoes
saliers. "there's this greater community we're trying to be a part of through
our activism. it's more of a mutual assent. our shows, they suck if the
audience isn't very good. and if the audience is good, the shows are good.
and i think we understand that relationship and we depend on them."

conversely, indigo girls fans depend on the duo to continue taking stands on
issues such as environmental protection, gay and lesbian rights, the plight
of indigenous peoples and gun control. and of course, they keep coming back
for the music.

"i think the songs are very honest and earnest -- sometimes too much so --
but i think that they speak to certain people in emotional struggles,"
saliers says. "there's a large amount of activism within the songs, or just
political context, and people understand that who follow us."

based on the past decade, it seems that as long as the indigo girls continue
making open-hearted, reflective songs that reveal something to listeners, ray
and saliers will continue to command a committed, devoted audience. radio be
damned.

the indigo girls play the tabernacle on thurs., dec. 16, and fri., dec. 17.
tickets are $31 general admission, $36 reserved; available through
ticketmaster. for more information, call 404-659-9022.

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 06:02:02 -0800
reply-to:     the wedgie monster® <thewedgiemonster@yahoo.com>
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subject:      if the boot you made gets sold on ebay...
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...twm has some suggestions to prevent someone
stealing your bootleg (oh, the irony) and making money
for themself.

two ways (in addition to complaining to ebay). it's
best to create a user name especially for this.

way the first:

1) bid on it. say $1,000 or so. enough to put everyone
else off.

2) email the folks who bids on it that they can get it
cheaper.

3) when you win (for you shall, my friends) refuse to
buy it 'cause you've just realized it's a bootleg.

sure you might get some negative feedback on your user
name, but it'd be fun watching them explain that they
were selling something illegal when they sue for
breach of contract.


way the second

1) post an identical item for say, $00.1.

2) explain in the description that everyone who bids a
blank and return postage wins.

oh, and...

--- anna creech <creechal@jmu.edu> wrote:
<<within minutes of leaving a *neutral* feedback, i
received a rather nasty and vulgar message from one
which included a threat of revenge of some sort.>>

i'm sure that wouldn't look good when forwarded to
ebay and copied back to their neutral feedback...

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 09:19:50 -0600
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just so everyone knows.  i filed a complaint with ebay and they shut
down the auction.  thanks for the pointer, tara.

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 10:47:32 -0500
reply-to:     "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com>
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from:         "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com>
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did you guys see that thing on vh1 last night about illegal downloading off
the internet?  if you host a site that distributes copyrighted material, or
you download lots of it and keep it, or heck, even the copying and
distribution of pirate bootlegs that we're doing on the list, regardless of
how ig feels about it, and even if you don't profit, it's illegal.

here's a link that will tell you more about it.

http://www.vh1.com/thewire/rankin/;$sessionid$d1goc2yaafp44cqbafhcfeq

there is a gov't agency now that is looking to prosecute people for doing
this stuff.  so, proceed with your personal choices with caution, and be
aware of the law.

just fyi,
tara

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 11:59:38 -0500
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subject:      re: mp3/vh1 nigc
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on wed, 15 dec 1999, lane, tara e. wrote:

> did you guys see that thing on vh1 last night about illegal downloading off
> the internet?  if you host a site that distributes copyrighted material, or
> you download lots of it and keep it, or heck, even the copying and
> distribution of pirate bootlegs that we're doing on the list, regardless of
> how ig feels about it, and even if you don't profit, it's illegal.

"the recording industry association of america wants to dispel that
idea. in a statement they said, "if you don't hold the copyright to a
sound recording, you can't reproduce the work, or distribute it. you
can't copy it onto a server, download it, upload it, save it to your hard
drive or put it on a disk."

   there are at least two lies in this mostly true statement.  can you
find them?

   darius

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 12:05:37 -0500
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subject:      nigc   jc superstar video   let's
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subject:      re: if the boot you made gets sold on ebay...recourse vs. your
              boots or other illegal mdse being sold on ebay  read
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all that you are suggesting is against ebay policy.  follow the correct
route and truly do something about the vendor and report them and the
auction including the auction # to safeharbor@ebay.com-.  this way you are
actually doing something about this vs. just complaining.  ebay employs a 3
strikes and your out policy in regards to this stuff.  it is folks like that
that give honest sellers a bad name.

susan

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hkf's,

yep, last minute plans change and i have 3 extra general admission tickets
for the show tomorrow night at the tabernacle.  they are $31 a piece plus
those ticketbastard charges.  and no, i am still going to the show of
course, but i now have some extras.  e-mail me by 5pm today.

thanks,
mike
a+e=ig

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hkf's,

not new information - but i just updated my site with the two australian
dates that were already posted.  the one show (3/9/00) is up on tm and the
other show (3/3/00) was confirmed by a listee.  please let me know any other
resources out there i can check online some of this information.

thanks y'all!
a+e=ig

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hkf's,

quick change - show is not sold out yet so i have to make a deal.  i'll get
rid of the 3 tickets for $30 bucks each or close to that.  plus i'll throw
in a blue indigo girls bumper sticker (white background) that needs a new
home (not sure if you can get these anymore).  so how's that sound!!!  (get
back to me thru e-mail by 5pm or try me at home at 404-355-1617)

thanks y'all,
a+e=ig

"we are fortunate ones
fortunate ones
i swear!!!"

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 14:49:06 est
reply-to:     melijoy@aol.com
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from:         indigo mel <melijoy@aol.com>
subject:      re: mp3/vh1
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even the copying and
> distribution of pirate bootlegs that we're doing on the list, regardless of
> how ig feels about it, and even if you don't profit, it's illegal.

yes, but they probably would come and bail you out of jail if all you were
doing was copying bootlegs and not selling them.  (:

-mel, who wants to point out, that as a college student, she can barely
afford any of the ig stuff on ebay anyway.

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 15:11:14 est
reply-to:     emilyraliers@aol.com
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that article reminded me of the rush song, the spirit of radio--here's and
excerpt:
...one likes to believe in the freedom of music
but glittering prizes and endless compromises
shatter the illusion of integrity..
and another:
....and the words of the prophets were written on the studio wall
concert hall
echoes
with the sound
of salesmen.....

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 15:18:03 est
reply-to:     emilyraliers@aol.com
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in a message dated 12/15/99 7:50:07 am pacific standard time,
telane@trigon.com writes:

> you download lots of it and keep it, or heck, even the copying and
>  distribution of pirate bootlegs that we're doing on the list, regardless of
>  how ig feels about it, and even if you don't profit, it's illegal.
i would think that they would have a hard time convicting us of anything with
ig on our side,when it is their music...actually i don't think boots are
copyrighted material. someone recorded it at a show with the permission of
the artist, so where's the copyright or whatever? hmmm...

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 15:24:49 est
reply-to:     emilyraliers@aol.com
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from:         vesper evensong <emilyraliers@aol.com>
subject:      re: mp3/vh1 nigc
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in a message dated 12/15/99 9:01:28 am pacific standard time,
dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu writes:

>  idea. in a statement they said, "if you don't hold the copyright to a
>   sound recording, you can't reproduce the work, or distribute it. you
>   can't copy it onto a server, download it, upload it, save it to your hard
>   drive or put it on a disk."
>
>     there are at least two lies in this mostly true statement.  can you
>  find them?
ummm...what if no one holds a copyright? if so, isn't it public domain?

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reply-to:     emilyraliers@aol.com
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from:         vesper evensong <emilyraliers@aol.com>
subject:      re: has  last word i promise re: ebay.  (unless i get really
              causey)
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in a message dated 12/15/99 9:12:40 am pacific standard time,
snapper@bulloch.com writes:

> any one ever point out the fact that the individual making the boots video
or
> audio is a felon to begin with??????????
not true, if that person has the permission of the artist(i think)

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 13:24:47 -0800
reply-to:     the wedgie monster® <thewedgiemonster@yahoo.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         the wedgie monster® <thewedgiemonster@yahoo.com>
subject:      re: has  last word i promise re: ebay.  (unless i get really
              causey)
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--- susan <snapper@bulloch.com> wrote:
>all that you are suggesting is against ebay policy.

no more so than selling a bootleg in the first place.
(aside: it has been mentioned before on this list how
difficult it is to get items removed the 'standard'
way.)

> any one ever point out the fact that the individual
> making the boots video or audio is a felon to begin
> with??????????

i believe i did point out the irony, but as you
mention it again:

us code title 18 section 2319a defines illegal sound
recordings as those produced "knowingly and for
purposes of commercial advantage or private financial
gain"

this discussion centers around those people who in
essence made items for 'free'.

these items were then offered for sale on ebay by some
other person. only then does 'commercial advantage or
private financial gain' apply.

your faithful servent

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 15:31:32 -0800
reply-to:     hawke2@email.msn.com
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from:         ryan blackhawke <hawke2@email.msn.com>
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just got word from thehia.org that hawaii planted the first industrial hemp
seeds with the blessings of the dea! this first crop was sponsored by
alterna shampoo on a 1/4 acre plot following strict guidelines set forth by
the dea. after research is complete, the possibility is very strong that
industrial hemp will finally become a choice once again for farmers across
the us.

ryan blackhawke
owner - fremont hemp co
(888) 956-hemp
http://www.fremonthemp.com

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 15:51:57 -0800
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i believe that a couple of people here were interested in the above show,
so i thought i'd just let you all know that this is the final week of
"hedwig's" los angeles run; the show is set to close on sunday the 19th.
so if any of y'all from socal were planning on coming to see the show,
y'all better do it this week.  and who knows, if ticket sales really do
well this week, it might extend . . .  and i'll be honest.  i'm a fan who
has purely selfish motives in this.  i want to see the show continue.  i
hate to think of the cast and crew (who are about the nicest bunch of
people i've ever met) being out of work a week before christmas.

feel free to email me privately for showtimes, pricing, info about the
show, whatever.  i'm a huge fan.  i can explain it to you in exhaustive
depth if you dare to ask.


battle on,
rhiannon silverflame, high priestess of the goddess emily saliers
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"where are all the harmonies?" -- some indigo girls fans on the seventh album

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 18:42:30 est
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darius --- isn't it legal to copy something for yourself as a back up?? that
i've heard....

<< "if you don't hold the copyright to a
  sound recording, you can't reproduce the work, or distribute it. you
  can't copy it onto a server, download it, upload it, save it to your hard
  drive or put it on a disk." >>

kristin tat -- what documentary is this???

<>>

:) lisa

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 19:22:17 est
reply-to:     shedyskin@aol.com
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i was browing at a record store and saw a double compliation cd called
something like "folk, gospel and blues - will the circle ever end" and was
surprised to see galileo on it. i think it's just the regular studio version.
does anyone else know about it? i didn't see this on lifeblood's site. i want
to see the booklet inside though. hope the library will have it eventually.

peace
dorothy

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 20:09:22 est
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um...ok i know it is probably a little late but i think i just realized that
these cards probably have something to do with the girls so um..can anyone
please tell me how to get involved in this...thanks...

carla  (who is very sorry she ever said anything about ebay in the first
place)

;ož

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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 17:12:28 -0800
reply-to:     jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
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>>"we do the things that are fun," ray adds. "radio stations do
contests
now where 15 winners get to go hear a private show, and we love doing
those because we get to play, and it's not based on who can afford to
buy tickets, it's based on who wins. those are good because they're
listener-oriented and they're not elitist. <<

i wonder if amy knows that the sf radio station here took bids for the
tickets and they went for over $1000 each.  i'd call that being based
on who can afford to buy tickets.  i know, i know, i'm gonna get flamed
because it was a fund raiser for breast cancer research and i
appreciate the gesture and the charity, but the tickets definitely went
to those that could afford a very high price.

jean


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date:         wed, 15 dec 1999 17:21:46 -0800
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got this in the mail today from <gasp> the fanclub!

jean

> hey everybody,
>
> just wanted to let you all know that there is now apparel available
> at
> <http://www.indigogirlsdirect.com>!  more will be available soon, so
> keep an
> eye out for it.
>
> also, amy and emily have taken over ownership of
> <http://www.indigogirls.com>.  the new design is almost finished!
> you all
> will be notified when the new site is up and running.  this site will
> be
> ever evolving, ever changing, with direct input from amy and emily,
> so it
> should be a fun and informative site to visit.
>
> look for another email coming to you next week with two big
> announcements!
>
> happy holidays!
>
>
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> the official site:  <a href= "http://www.indigogirls.com" >
> http://www.indigogirls.com </a>
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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 12:52:08 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

i just called the promoter and got the following list of dates for
the australian ig tour...

thu 2/3/00      canberra theatre, canberra act
fri 3/3/00      melbourne concert hall, melbourne vic
tue 7/3/00      brisbane concert hall, brisband qld
thu 9/3/00      state theatre, sydney nsw
sat 11/3/00     thevarton theatre, adelaide sa
mon 13/3/00     concert hall, perth wa

i'm also guessing that they'll announce at least another show each
for sydney and melbourne, but i could be wrong...

there's a half-page ad in this week's drum media here in sydney for
the show.  also, ticketmaster is now listing the melbourne show...

looks like i will be taking a couple of days off work to do the
canberra-melbourne-sydney roundtrip - whoohoo,
sherlyn
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  into the country of your heart..."    - karma county

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in a message dated 12/15/99 3:43:54 pm pacific standard time,
lisa071573@aol.com writes:

> kristin tat -- what documentary is this???
sounds like the one at tower records for $12.99

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audio home recording act of 1992 (public law 102-563) allows for someone to make
one copy of a recording that they own (as in a tape of a cd you bought so you
can play it in your car), but not to be given or sold to anyone else.  you can
try to read the legal jargon here:
        http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/bad_laws/ahra.html
but this site has a more lay explanation:
        http://www.sughrue.com/articles/copy/homerec.html

anna
(who just spent a semester studying the legal aspects of the music industry)
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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 00:51:51 -0500
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from:         "diane g." <dispdmg@yahoo.com>
subject:      very little igc: guitar for sale
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this is a multi-part message in mime format.

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ok the indigo girls content on this one is that its about a guitar for =
sale - and the girls play guitars :)

(no kidding - its a stretch but...)

one of my coworkers is looking to sell an '84 fender mustang (i think =
she called it...i personally know very little about musical =
instruments!)

i don't have a picture yet but its supposed to be in mint condition.

anyone interested please e-mail me privately (dispdmg@yahoo.com) and =
i'll put you in touch with the sell-er.

thanks

diane

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<div> </div>
<div><font face=3darial size=3d2>(no kidding - its a stretch =
but...)</font></div>
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an '84=20
fender mustang (i think she called it...i personally know very little =
about=20
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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 02:37:07 est
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subject:      nigc prez campaign
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hey...someone on a tori-list pointed this out and it's kinda cool...it's a
basic run down of each presidential candidate and their positions on the
basic issues. you fill in a survey on your political preferences and it
matches you up to a candidate best suited for you. kinda sounds like the
dating game...but it's neat though cause you can see each candidates profile
and it gives you info on the lesser-known guys. i matched (both tied at 73%)
david mcrenoylds and ralph nader...bill bradley was third...

check it out:
http://www.selectsmart.com/president

:) lisa (of course there is always the ray/saliers write-in...)

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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 07:28:46 -0500
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subject:      christmas cards licg
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without drawing too much attention to any one individual, i just received
the coolest card from the exchange....renee g. you go gyrl!
thanks again to erin sue who got this together and a happy holiday to all.
just got the first big dumping of snow and feeling all warm and fuzzy.

crusty

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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 08:18:28 -0500
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  everyone wants more details so here goes...
he is a beagle/cocker spaniel mix, he looks like a mini black lab.  he
is 10 months old, not neutered, but his shots are up to date.  his name
is socrates.  he is black with white markings in his belly and paws.  he
weighs 42 lbs and the vet says he won't grow anymore.  he is exremely
lovable and needs a good home desperately.  i have to have some where
for him to go by tonite...i have to at least know where he's going, i
can keep him till sat if necessary, so that i can bring him somewhere.
thanks guys...
       carrie

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anyone know anything about this?


you can register for the cybercast at the star bar at the epic site,
i believe it's www.epicrecords.com  (3 pm tomorrow, est)

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this from the epic board:

free on-line concert thursday


  the indigo girls go interactive! if you can't see them in person, we've
got the next best thing. experience the
indigo girls live! web cast from the star bar in atlanta. thursday,
december 16th 3-4 pm est (12-1 pm pst). this  internet web cast is brought
to you by mindspring, 99x and worldstream communications.

                       register for the free concert at:
http://events.worldstream.com/login/login.cfm?showtimeid=5655171

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as you may know, the band has gotten deeply involved in the
current fight over the fcc's potential creation of low power
radio stations.  while the idea has a great deal of
support,  commercial broadcasters are fighting the issue in
washington -- and they have a great deal of money and power.

saturday night and this evening, the indigo girls are
handing out fact sheets encouraging folks who live in ohio
to call or write congressman mike oxley, a republican who
recently introduced a piece of legislation that would block
the fcc from creating these low power stations.  phone
calls, emails and letters make a big big difference to these
folks, and i would strongly encourage your support in
calling your local representatives.

if you would like more information, we have a general
information at www.lowpowerradio.org.  if you would like a
copy of the fact sheet, or contact information for your rep,
please email me at mbracy@bracywilliams.com and reference
that you're responding to the message on the ig list.

thanks for your support.

michael bracy
low power radio coalition

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on thu, 16 dec 1999, sheryl jones wrote:

> this from the epic board:
>
> free on-line concert thursday
>
>
>   the indigo girls go interactive! if you can't see them in person, we've
> got the next best thing. experience the
> indigo girls live! web cast from the star bar in atlanta. thursday,
> december 16th 3-4 pm est (12-1 pm pst). this  internet web cast is brought
> to you by mindspring, 99x and worldstream communications.
>

is anyone taping or burning this to a cd?  i'd love to hear it, but i'm
stuck at work until 3:45 and it takes me 45 mins. to get home.  :(  had i
more than 5 hours notice, i would have arranged to leave early, but it's a
little late for that!  i guess i should check out the epic site more
often.

btw, is it just my slow 56k connection or is that
www.indigogirlsdirect.com site *really* slow to load.  i usually don't
have to wait that long, but last night i got frustrated and went to bed.
i can't wait to get a new ig shirt, tho.  the only one i have is the one
with the buck and the naked mannequin on it.

kelly

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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 11:38:28 -0500
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subject:      sigc - aerin tedesco's cd release party last night
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x-cc:         aerin tedesco <sabedecoy@aol.com>,
              kathy moriarty <kamoriarty@aol.com>

hi y'all...

backed by her recently formed band, gabriel's cage, with michael schenkel on
guitar, and dave rosenberg and eric christ (the rhythm section of alison
pipitone's cash cows) on electric bass and drums, along with guest vocalists
kathy moriarty and jenn guillow, and a one-song cameo appearance by that
havanamoon character on lead guitar, aerin tedesco celebrated the release of
her first cd, angels and allegories, at nietzsche's in buffalo last
night....

kathy moriarty did a short opening set of her original material to the
delight of the gathering crowd, then stayed onstage to sing harmony.  aerin
opened with color blind, the catchy, upbeat tune that opens the cd, which
started the night on a positive vibe.  i'm very grateful that aerin offered
me the opportunity to add some guitar lines to the cd track, and playing
onstage with a tight ensemble like gabriel's cage is a real treat.

the crowd grew in numbers as the night progressed, including fellow artists,
katie miller, pamela ryder, and alison pipitone, who emitted an
ear-splitting whistle at the end of aerin's tribute song, alison.  the band
was impressive throughout, adding texture to aerin's songs without burying
her lyrics.

aerin, who is a huge ig fan, has a wonderful vocal range, and a voice that
is somewhat reminiscent of melissa ferrick's.  visit her website at
http://www.pce.net/mischenk/ for more information...

for me, this year has been a dream come true...

peace,
tim

please visit my web pages...

the havana moon web page:       http://angelfire.com/ny3/havanamoon
the katie miller web page:      http://angelfire.com/ny3/katiemiller
the pamela ryder web page:      http://angelfire.com/ny3/soulryder
the missing lynx artist pages:  http://angelfire.com/music/missinglynx

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reply-to:     melissa gordon <melissa@ce1.com>
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jean:

i can understand all of us who would want to attend such a show, but i dont
find the 1k auction price elitist.   now, if the girls only played the
benefit and not a public show with $30 ticket pricing, that might be a
different matter.

melissa

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> >>"we do the things that are fun," ray adds. "radio stations do
> contests
> now where 15 winners get to go hear a private show, and we love doing
> those because we get to play, and it's not based on who can afford to
> buy tickets, it's based on who wins. those are good because they're
> listener-oriented and they're not elitist. <<
>
> i wonder if amy knows that the sf radio station here took bids for the
> tickets and they went for over $1000 each.  i'd call that being based
> on who can afford to buy tickets.  i know, i know, i'm gonna get flamed
> because it was a fund raiser for breast cancer research and i
> appreciate the gesture and the charity, but the tickets definitely went
> to those that could afford a very high price.
>
> jean
>
>
>
>
> =====
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> __________________________________________________
> do you yahoo!?
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> yahoo! shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com
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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 09:49:03 -0800
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except that what amy was talking about specifically was the *private*
show.  she says that the *private* shows are great to her because they
are not based on how much money someone can afford.  but in the sf
case, it was.

jean

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> jean:
>
> i can understand all of us who would want to attend such a show, but
> i dont
> find the 1k auction price elitist.   now, if the girls only played
> the
> benefit and not a public show with $30 ticket pricing, that might be
> a
> different matter.
>
> melissa
>
> ----- original message -----
> from: jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
> to: <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
> sent: wednesday, december 15, 1999 5:12 pm
> subject: ig - creative loafing article
>
>
> > >>"we do the things that are fun," ray adds. "radio stations do
> > contests
> > now where 15 winners get to go hear a private show, and we love
> doing
> > those because we get to play, and it's not based on who can afford
> to
> > buy tickets, it's based on who wins. those are good because they're
> > listener-oriented and they're not elitist. <<
> >
> > i wonder if amy knows that the sf radio station here took bids for
> the
> > tickets and they went for over $1000 each.  i'd call that being
> based
> > on who can afford to buy tickets.  i know, i know, i'm gonna get
> flamed
> > because it was a fund raiser for breast cancer research and i
> > appreciate the gesture and the charity, but the tickets definitely
> went
> > to those that could afford a very high price.
> >
> > jean
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =====
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> > sneakyjean@yahoo.com
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>she says that the *private* shows are great
> to her because they
> are not based on how much money someone can afford.
> but in the sf
> case, it was.

didn't someone say the sf show was a charity
fundraiser?  it seems to me there is a difference
between a private show where tickets are given away
and a fundraiser.  the point of a fundraiser is just
that...to raise as much money as possible. it does
make those of us who don't have $1,000 to plunk down
feel left out or whatever, but if it's a fundraiser,
it's a fundraiser.

however, if it was intended to be a private show and
the radio station decided to "make" it a fundraiser
and charge expensive prices per head, i have a problem
with that.

just my humble opinion...

peace!

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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 14:14:55 -0500
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hello. i used to be an active member of this indigo girls list until 1995
when i switched jobs & could no longer get the bulk of email that was
generated. i am in the process of getting rid of some spare records & cds
(mostly on ebay), and have two for auction that would be of particular
interest to members of this mailing list. they are:

club rock and roll (with the allman brothers)
reverse one live

i remember how long it took me to find these and how often people on this
list inquired about finding them. i decided to rejoin the list so that i
could give real fans an opprtunity to bid, as opposed to the whole ebay
world. i will take bids starting at $50 to my private email address of
robwhite@erols.com. i will pay all shipping. bidding will cease at 6pm est
on sunday 12-19-99. email me if there any additional questions. thanks, and
good luck.

robbie white

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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 11:50:11 -0800
reply-to:     amy swenson <aswenson@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com>
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so the webcase won't work on a unix machine. :( i'm so bummed! so have
fun if ya "go"! :)

it's just been one of those weeks.

life sucks so unbelievably right now.

i think i'm going to give up on girlfriends and just get a bunch of
flannel sheets. not quite as good as a hug, but it'll do in a pinch...

love,
amy

www.netuser.com/~aswenson

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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 14:13:47 -0600
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can someone give me the subscription instructions for the melissa etheridge
list - via private e-mail please.

thank you,

bones

bonesdc@gte.net

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hey saw the webcast it was great!! setlist...
get out the map
go
peace tonight
gone again
closer to fine

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i wasn't able to see or hear it until the middle of ctf :-(
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hey! 99x just called me to do a promo for them.  listen for me on air!
cool.
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>from:    vesper evensong <emilyraliers@aol.com>
>i would think that they would have a hard time convicting us of anything with
>ig on our side,when it is their music...actually i don't think boots are
>copyrighted material. someone recorded it at a show with the permission of
>the artist, so where's the copyright or whatever? hmmm...

as original works, the songs themselves (even new songs that have not been
recorded) are copyrighted, whether you're recording a live show or a cd.

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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 14:54:55 -0800
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this was in today's sf examiner.

-det. munch

***************************************************
tooling up for the holidays
               charles smith
               special to the examiner

even klutzes need hammers -these gifts will get used

               quick, what do these words bring to
               mind: pasta maker, espresso machine?
               how about the cabinet above the
               'fridge or a church bazaar? how about
               expensive holiday gifts that rarely get
               used?

               i'd like to point out to other gift
               idea-deprived folks that a well-made
               hammer will get more and longer use
               than any electronic or kitchen gizmo.
               even in the hands of a complete klutz, a
               hammer serves its master in so many
               ways: driving in tent stakes on a
               camping trip, whacking nails into the
               wall to hold up an indigo girls poster,
               pounding the bejabbers out of some
               recalcitrant little dohickey - you name
               it.

               furthermore, giving tools as gifts is a
               nice way to capitalize on the fact that
               despite all the glory showered on
               netizens and gen-y zillionaires, the
               world is still stubbornly analog. all the
               gigabytes on the planet can't get rid of
               that annoying, leaky showerhead.

               but one pair of $6.79 (plus 8.25
               percent california excise tax, net boy!)
               8-inch adjustable pliers from your
               local ace hardware sure can.

               hands-on workshops

               another great gift idea is a
               knowledge-tool combination. if your
               recipient has little or no experience
               handling tools or doing repairs, a
               unique set of "hands-on" workshops is
               given quarterly by the nonprofit
               building education center in berkeley
               (812 page st., (510) 525-7610 for a
               class schedule). prices range from $95
               for the one-day "carpentry for women"
               (taught by female tradespeople) and
               "portable power tools for beginners"
               to $180 for two-day workshops on
               home repair, plumbing, electrical and
               other skills. there are about 50
               different classes in all.

               so for the same price as some
               electronic toy or yuppie kitchen
               dust-collector (oops, i mean "the latest
               must-have gewgaw"), you can give
               someone the priceless gift of
               experience and self-reliance.

               for the more experienced
               do-it-yourselfer, or any homeowner,
date: wed, 22 dec 1999 23:30:01 +0000
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to: underdog@earthlink.net

               there's a nifty book entitled "a
               consumer's guide to home
               improvement, renovation and repair"
               published by the enterprise foundation
               (270 pages, $19.95 from the builders
               booksource, 1817 fourth st., berkeley,
               510 845-6874); phone orders
               1-800-843-2028 or on the world wide
               web at
               www.buildersbooksource.com). it is a
               comprehensive consumer reports-type
               overview of the processes and costs of
               a wide array of repair and
               improvement projects.

               ok, let's go to some tool gift ideas:

               the mini-tool kit

               this mini-sized collection is an
               inexpensive but useful starter kit for
               any young person, male or female:

               3-foot keychain measuring tape
               (stanley, lufkin or ace brand), $2.79:
               although small enough (about an inch
               square) to fit in a pocket or purse, these
               little self-retracting tapes are plenty
               long enough for typical home
               improvement jobs like measuring pipe
               diameters, shelf widths, etc. unlike a
               clunky 25-foot measuring tape, you
               won't have to remember to carry it with
               you to the lumber yard, either.

               pocket screwdriver, $3.59: this has a
               clip to fit in a pocket - very convenient
               for the small screws that hold the back
               panels on pcs and other gizmos. a
               somewhat larger but still compact
               four-in-one screwdriver costs only a
               dollar more.

               keychain utility knife (ace brand or
               mitey-knife stanley tools brand),
               $2.69: a miniature version of the
               retractable-blade knife used by
               carpenters, drywallers and roofers.
               this little (about 2 inches long) knife is
               useful for slicing open cardboard boxes
               as well as for scoring wood or cutting
               materials such as packing tape or wall
               board.

               4-inch adjustable wrench (crescent
               brand), $13.99: a small crescent
               wrench comes in handy for everything
               from assembling knockdown furniture
               to tightening faucets. many tool kits
               contain a 8- or 10-inch wrench, but the
               4-inch size is much easier to use in
               most light-duty home projects.

               8-inch needle-nosed pliers (klein
               brand, $18.98; ace brand, $10.49):
               these thin-tipped pliers have myriad
               uses, such as pulling out phone cord
               staples and

               the like.

               handi-hack saw (ace hardware
               brand), $3.97, or mini-hack (stanley
               brand), $4.97. this fine-toothed
               hacksaw blade is multipurpose:
               designed to cut metal, it cuts plastic
               and small pieces of wood just fine, too.
               in fact, many carpenters use them to
               make fine cuts in hardwoods. the
               handle is a grip type like a hammer or
               knife and it uses standard hacksaw
               blades.

               this saw has several advantages over a
               typical crosscut handsaw. a handsaw
               must be resharpened when it gets dull;
               with this, you throw out the dull blade
               and put in a new one. hacksaw blades
               are cheap, too - several dollars will
               buy several new blades.

               8-inch slip pliers (ace brand), $6.79:
               the "slip" simply means that it can be
               adjusted to two settings - open wide
               and open wider. these classic pliers
               are indispensable for tightening
               showerheads or removing screws
               whose heads have rusted off or been
               torqued off, as well as countless other
               essential little tasks.

               16-ounce hammer (vaughn brand wood
               handle, straight claw, $22.49; stanley
               brand curved claw, $7.97; ace brand
               fiberglass handle, $11.99): there are
               many kinds of hammers, but a basic kit
               should probably start with a 16- or
               18-ounce smooth-faced "finish"
               hammer.

               (the weight refers to the steel head of
               the hammer, not the weight of the entire
               tool. thus a 16-ounce wood handle
               hammer is appreciably lighter than a
               steel-handle hammer of the same head
               weight.)

               there several variations to keep in
               mind:

               the claw for yanking nails or pulling
               things apart can be either straight
               (almost no curve) or curved (the
               classic hammer profile). professional
               carpenters often prefer straight claws
               because they can be pushed between
               objects you're trying to pry apart easier
               than the curved claws. but for the
               average handyperson, either will do.

               the face (the part that hits the nail or
               your thumb) can be either smooth or
               "waffle-faced" (deeply scored so it
               looks like a waffle iron); the latter is
               used exclusively by framing carpenters,
               as the roughened faces do not slip off
               nail heads as readily as their smooth
               counterparts. the downside to this
               valuable trait is the huge round waffled
               "wooden nickel" dimple you leave in
               the wood or drywall when you miss the
               nail (and you're going to miss every
               once in awhile). if the project will be
               hidden by drywall, go for it; otherwise
               a smooth-face hammer is the better
               choice.

               handle material. classic wood handles
               are light and strong, but have the
               tendency to work loose or break when
               used too roughly. fiberglass handles or
               steel handles are heavy but are
               virtually unbreakable. for most
               light-duty home repairs, a wood
               handled hammer is plenty durable and
               easier to use because it's not as heavy
               and has a comfortable balance.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
  decorative paper shelf edging.  it's a good thing.
*                                                   *
                                 - martha stewart
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 18:56:02 est
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i noticed there are several dan fogelberg fans on this list.  thought y'all
might be interested to know he will be in yahoo chat tonight, thursday
december 16, at 8pm et/5pm pt.

sue

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this is the biggest, baddest boot offer ever to hit the list. hold on tight
and fasten your safety belts.

this is a totally free* offer.
i have organised a tree to bring you seven cds of quality indigo girls
music. please make yourself comfy and pay close attention.

here's what's on offer.
details on how to obtain these will be included in a subsequent email

neilytones/purple chick proudly presents:

attack of the killer b-sides volume four - more rarigies. the latest edition
of the acclaimed series compiling every official indigo girls rarity.

pbr (a production of janet doe) presents:
wrek night (2-21-1989 +) radio broadcast
atlanta night (6-28-1991 +) audience tape (2cds)
los angeles night (10-15-1988 +) audience tape (3cds)

the b-sides volume four and wrek discs are _excellent_ and you really should
get them.
the other two are inessential, but fun.

the cover scans and information for all these items can be found at:
www.go.to/neilytones

but for those who can't wait:

indigo girls - attack of the killer b-sides vol. four - more rarigies

1. shed your skin (stephen nikolas club mix) - from promo 12"
2. i don't wanna know (album version, with overdubbed effects)
- from 'hitchhiker sampler volume 2'
3. can we go higher - from various artists benefit single
4. love's recovery (live: mountain stage - 11 apr '93)
- from ' the best of mountain stage - live volume five'
5. what's the buzz/strange thing mystifying (live: sxsw texas musichall,
austin, tx - 20 march '95 - from 'what's for supper' promo'
6. strange fire (live: mountain stage - 13 aug '97)
- from 'women live from mountain stage'
7. cortez the killer (live, with band de soleil: e.j. thomas theater, akron,
ohio
- 11 oct '94) - from european "redemption dream'
8. center stage (live: shepherd's bush empire, london, uk - 21/22 nov '94)
- from 'thrive - a compilation to benefit youth pride'
9. shed your skin (a.d.s. skinless mix (110 bpm)) - from promo 12"
10. baby, don't you break my heart slow (vonda shephard with emily saliers)
- from 'by 7:30'
11. get out the map (live - 1998) - from 'lilith fair - a celebration of
women in music volume 3"
12. clampdown - from 'burning london - the clash tribute'
13. go (live: park west, chicago, il - 26 aug '98)
- from 'no boundaries - a benefit for the kosovar refugees'

bonus track
15. closer to fine (live) - hootie and the blowfish

special thanks to lisa & janet doe. this compilation is never for sale.
please make every effort to seek out and buy the original releases!!

full tracklisting for the following available with the cover art.

wrek night
21 feb '89 - wrek radio session
including:
the untitled song
half moon cafe
mona lisas and mad hatters
plus:
30 may '89 - the white dot, atlanta (audience recording) - amy solo


los angeles night (2cds)
28 june '91 - the greek theater, los angeles. an ok audience recording (i
think).
plus
13 june '91 wxrk radio session (including daddy's all gone)

atlanta night (3cds)
15 october 1988 - the point, atlanta georgia. an ok audience recording (i
think).
plus
?? 1988 - wuog atlanta, georga radio session


there are a few people who i owe (or want to give) copies of 'b-sides vol
four' to. if this is you, please drop me a line to remind me.
this people include: doug dickson and carolyn.

if you have any problems, questions, complaints or extra chocolate please
don't hesitate to contact me.

that's all folks.
may all your christmasses be white.

neil
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www.go.to/edenburning
www.go.to/neilytones


*free only in as much as we are all free through the blood of jesus**. you
will be expected to pay for your blanks, packaging, and postage to and from
your branch person and for any costs incurred in downloading and printing
the cover art.

**please take this either seriously, or as a joke, whichever offends you the
least. and if you're still offended - lighten up!

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if you want to take part, please, please pay attention.

save this email.

follow the instructions below to find the person you should contact. these
people don't even have their own discs yet (they're in the mail, apart from
kelly's), so patience is going to be a good thing to have here.

write them a nice friendly note, asking how to proceed.

ususally you will have to send them the appropriate number of blanks
together with a self-addressed envelope containing the appropriate amount of
return postage.

it is a nice gesture, though by no means essential, to include an extra
blank or two, some chocolate, a mix tape or a few kind words as a gift to
the person who is taking the time to help you.

it may also save your some postage to send only the discs (packed securely),
not the cases. and if you do send cases, it's nice to take the cellophane
off before you do. anything to make your branch's life easier.

and please, once you recieve your discs back, say thankyou. we're all guilty
of forgetting sometimes, but it's important. and if i ever forget/forgot to
thank you, or reply to an email, then let me know!

these people are giving up their time, but they only have so much to give.
please respect them if they have already reached their limit. if that is the
case (or, if you have some cds i don't have that you would like to trade)
you may email me (neil, neily@netreach.net ) and i will do my best to help
you, although i too have limits :o)

here goes:

it is your responsibility to download the cover art for youself.
www.go.to/neilytones
although it says 'cover art is included on the cd' that is no longer the
case, the discs would not copy correctly with it included.

if you need 'attack of the killer b-sides volumes 1-3'  then ask your person
(nicely) if they can oblige you. they might, they might not.

if you live in canada
sandra connolly - sandra_connolly@hotmail.com
(b-sides 4 + wrek only)

if you live in europe
diane halford - dhalford@pcpro-gb.de
(b-sides 4 + wrek only)

if you live in australasia
too bad. try one of the american folks.
sorry!

the usa

if you want b-sides vol 4 and/or wrek only

if you were born january-june
mary post - mbpost@ibm.net

if you were born july-december
lori ann - liltree@yahoo.com


if you want all seven (or any combination)

if you were born january-march
susan brill - susan.brill@yale.edu

if you were born april-june
graham ames - mcgee@oregontrail.net

if you were born july-september
lisa shannon - lashannon@mindspring.com

if you were born october-december
kelly fairbairn  - fairbk@sage.edu


the birthday monster won't be watching too closely, so you can cheat a
little if your bud is another branch.

again, if your branch is full, try me. although i've burnt over 100 discs in
the last few days and would love a break!

if you have any problems, questions, complaints or extra chocolate please
don't hesitate to contact me.

that's all folks.
may all your christmasses be white.

neil
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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 16:58:11 -0800
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subject:      re: small-time celebrity?
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i just did the promo, too!
library workers of the world ... unite  ;)

paula, could you be next?

-bon

> hey! 99x just called me to do a promo for them.  listen for me on air!
> cool.

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date:         thu, 16 dec 1999 20:03:55 -0500
reply-to:     kelly fairbairn <fairbk@sage.edu>
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on thu, 16 dec 1999, bonster wrote:

> i just did the promo, too!
> library workers of the world ... unite  ;)
>
> paula, could you be next?
>
> -bon
>
> > hey! 99x just called me to do a promo for them.  listen for me on air!
> > cool.
>

hey, what about me?  <pouts>

jk,
kelly
who may not be a library worker very much longer if things go the way they
seem to be going!

%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%
%^  kelly fairbairn              %^
^%  ill dept.                    ^%
%^  sage troy campus library     %^
^%  fairbk@sage.edu              ^%
%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%

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someone emailed me yesterday and asked me to read all the posts on a
particular subject before responding.  i agreed, and thanked her for the
suggestion.  today, she sent me a nasty email informing me that she was
blocking my email address, because my "one-line posts are a waste of time."
i don't mind being blocked by this person, (igsoulmate@hotmail.com), but i
see no purpose being served by sending a pissy email to that effect. i am
trying to be nice to people even if i don't agree with them or whatever, and
i would appreciate it if others would do the same.  most of you seem to be
very considerate, and a couple of you have been wonderful to me(you know who
you are)
i am sorry if i posted too much or with not much to say, and i will try to be
more aware of posting uninteresting or irrelevant things in the future.
pax
vesper

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bonster wrote:
>
> i just did the promo, too!
> library workers of the world ... unite  ;)
>
> paula, could you be next?
>

what's this about?  you have to work in a library to do this?  kelly f.
works in one. . .   hi kelly.

elaine

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neil wrote:
> if you live in australasia
> too bad. try one of the american folks.
> sorry!
>
well, since i live in hawaii and winter break has just
begun, i'd be willing to make copies of vol 4 and/or
the wrek show thingy for the folks from australia/new
zealand.  i don't know about postage, but we'll work
something out, or maybe all y'all can pool together
and fly me out to sydney for one of the ig shows ;)

lori


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hmmm...vesper, i have always found your posts to be quite knowledgable and
intelligent, and i always look forward to reading them.  i, for one, would
say, "don't change a thing..."  i

pax, to you, too, sweetie...


vicki

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dear vesper,
    your posts are just fine. i enjoy reading all points of view, especially
yours. what is wrong with people these days??? why do people find it
necessary to be so nasty???? please vesper ignore these nimnods who wrote
these things to you. they are most probably jealous because they can't come
up with original thoughts by themselves.
back to lurking,
lynne
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> someone emailed me yesterday and asked me to read all the posts on a
> particular subject before responding.  i agreed, and thanked her for the
> suggestion.  today, she sent me a nasty email informing me that she was
> blocking my email address, because my "one-line posts are a waste of
time."
> i don't mind being blocked by this person, (igsoulmate@hotmail.com), but i
> see no purpose being served by sending a pissy email to that effect. i am
> trying to be nice to people even if i don't agree with them or whatever,
and
> i would appreciate it if others would do the same.  most of you seem to be
> very considerate, and a couple of you have been wonderful to me(you know
who
> you are)
> i am sorry if i posted too much or with not much to say, and i will try to
be
> more aware of posting uninteresting or irrelevant things in the future.
> pax
> vesper
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i just had to share with everyone how wonderful the new kristen hall cd is!!
for those of you not familiar with her work, you should definitely check her
out!  also, emily has played on her last two cd's - fact and fiction, be
careful what you wish for.  this cd is not a disappointment...it is so good
to know that after she moved to la, she kept up her phenomenal songwriting.
she is right up there on my list, just beneath amy and emily...

let me know what you all think, if you have it or if you get it!

take care, and happy holidays!
jill

"sometimes i ask to sneak a closer look
skip to the final chapter of the book
and then maybe steer us clear from some of the pain it took

to get us where we are this far.
but the question drowns in its futility
even i have got to laugh at me
no one gets to miss the storm of what will be
just holding on for the ride."
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in a message dated 12/16/99 6:58:22 pm pacific standard time,
timlynlist@home.com writes:

>     your posts are just fine. i enjoy reading all points of view, especially
>  yours. what is wrong with people these days??? why do people find it
>  necessary to be so nasty???? please vesper ignore these nimnods who wrote
>  these things to you.
thank you...
namarie!

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um, ....


*where do i get my grubby little hands on this???*
(did you find it in a chain store???)

like the last cd i bought of hers i got the same day ani's out of range was
released (june 94)

ani has...like 9 cd's since???


this isn't the thumbprint demos (did anyone burn those to cdr, i can prove i
own the actual tape, i was going to burn it for myself- if you burned it -
heaven knows (as well as jude hunter) that i am furiously remastering
several ig (and the mccartney cavern show) for a seed , and jean moses - you
will be delighted with what i am sending you...

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ok so what is the ig documentary called?? i haven't been to tower yet (i
suppose i could just do that...) but i can't find it on tower online.

:) lisa

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are we talking about the watershed video here?  their videos are on it, and
they are interviewed while playing pool... just a guess, but here's hoping
there's yet another ig video out there!!
    ~lola

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in a message dated 12/16/1999 7:19:15 pm pacific standard time,
indigojmg@aol.com writes:

> i just had to share with everyone how wonderful the new kristen hall cd is!!

oh wow!!!!! kristen has a new cd???????  how awesome!  is she still on
daemon?  definitely pick it up folks....f&f is one of my all time faves and
she doesn't disappoint. :)

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correct me if i'm wrong, but are the girls doing a live chat friday?  or
was that today? i thought somebody mentioned something like that but i
forgot.

peace,

barb

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i'm sure the other atlanta listees are still hanging out together, but i'm
home early to sleep so i can get off work early and go to the other
concert tomorrow.  a few quick commetns, i'll leave the rest to others (or
myself when i"m a little less tired:).  3 finger cowboy sucked, a terrible
band.  the concert was great, i got an aerobic workout dancing the whole
time, and (drumroll please . . .. ) i got a pic!!!! i'm so excited.  i
wasn't even standing that close to the stage, i was hanging back catching
up wtih old friends i'd run into at the show, and it landed on the floor
at my feet and i bent dwon and picked it up.  i was afraid to put it in my
pocket, so i held it as i drove the whole way home!  it's amazing how
happy a little piece of yellow plastic makes me.  ahhhh, one more
showtomorrw
:)carrie

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hey, everybody...

i guess that it would be a good idea to tell you all where to get the cd...i
got mine through daemon records.  they are selling the cd for $12, plus s&h.
if you order it now, they probably can't get it to you by christmas, but hey,
it's kristen, so it's worth the wait.  i just love her!

sorry for the "sin of omission..."

take care-
jill

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skip to the final chapter of the book
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to get us where we are this far.
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ok - i am still confused :p  kristin mentioned a documentary and i took it to
mean that it was a new one...but i still don't know... me=confused

anyway, i just wanted to say thanks to all who are sending me blanks for the
berkeley show. everyone is doing a nice job of sending me return mailers with
stamps and notes telling me what i am taping for them. very nice! oh and i
don't need chocolate (of course i'd eat it but not necessary..) so anyone who
still wants a copy - on tape - can e-mail me :) lisa

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hey all--

i accidentally deleted the info. on the b-sides cdr thing, so could
someone e-mail the info privately?? thanks y'all!

~~kelly

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love that woman, love her music...

it is wonderful to have a new cd by her.

if you guys don't have a copy, buy a copy!~

mj

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hey all!
i was watching watershed again last night and noticed something odd.
the title on the box and on the cassette is "indigo girls watershed: 10 years
of underground video".
at the very very end of the tape, it says, "indigo girls watershed: 10 years
of underground indigo".
what's up with that?
~~mouse

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i'll leave the rest to others (or
>myself when i"m a little less tired:).

i don't have much time (i'm at work) but here's my little addition - emily
was so smiley the whole time it just made me happy.  (was emily's girlfriend
standing up at the stage in front of her?)  now, i'm an "amy" girl but
seeing emily so smiley really added to the whole show for me.  hey, i love
amy's smile too, and it was there a bunch, don't you worry.  it was cute,
somewhere in the middle of the show emily said, "where are my parents?"  and
amy said, "yeah, where are mine?"  so they scanned the balconies and found
them up there somewhere.  emily said "they stuck you all the way up there?"
i was wondering what it must be like for a parent to be at a concert and see
so many people screaming over your child, singing the words to every one of
her songs, some yelling out "i love you!"  they didn't really say that much
else during the show, amy attributing this to the fact that its harder to
think of things to say in her home town.  she said that if she started to
talk she was afraid she'd get all emotional, so she was kind of nervous
about what to say (or something like that!).  the highlight for me?  oh,
gosh, i don't know.  shed your skin just gets better and better!  i love the
short solo-ish parts for the different musicians.  amy sang sister!  no need
to say more!  okay, it was awesome, i'll be there tonight again.  really
looking forward to michelle malone being there, too.  oh, when they came
back out for the encore emily said they were just saying that we were the
best hometown crowd they've ever had.  well, that's all it took to make
everyone go wild again, of course!  for those of you going tonight - have
fun!
lisa
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rick (rbsayre@aol.com) asked me to forward this to the list.   if you have
any comments or questions on this, be sure you email him directly, as he is
on the news digest only.

thanks!
=)
lisa

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<< i was browing at a record store and saw a double compliation cd called
something like "folk, gospel and blues - will the circle ever end" and was
surprised to see galileo on it. i think it's just the regular studio version.
does anyone else know about it? i didn't see this on lifeblood's site. >>

the folk, gospel & blues collection is part of a series of cds that have been
released by sony music under the collective title "sony music 100
years:soundtrack for a century". there are 12 2-disc collections in different
genres & a 4-disc classical edition- they're all collected in a great big
*awesome* box set called... um sony music 100 years:soundtrack for a century.
<grin> the track *is* the normal, regular "galileo" we all know & love...
there's one picture of them in this big coffee table book that's included in
the box set- circa rites of passage- and there's a bit about them that goes
as follows:
galileo/indigo girls
the combined strengths of amy ray and emily saliers-as grammy-winning,
multi-platinum singer-songwriters, multi-instrumentalists, and environmental
and sociopolitical activists (especially on behalf of native american
rights)- afford them an unique platform from which to address today's real
life-or-death issues. with a myriad of friends at the ready from the realms
of folk, pop, world beat, country, and alternative (like the guest list on
this career-defining single), the indigo girls have cross-pollinated music
and social messages like no other group in the 1990s.


;) there ya go... "career-defining single"... i dunno, i'm sure there'll be a
big debate on that one... but it's great to see them honored up there with
the best... the folk, blues, gospel cd is actually my favorite so far... the
collection is excellent, but enormous... i got it for my birthday on sunday
and still haven't been able to hear all the music!! i did sneak a peak at the
international... not just for ricky martin, but this great version of "break
my stride" by an austrian band... heh heh

peace,
rick

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if anyone is familiar with home prices in decatur please email me
privately.  i was doing an internet home search and i couldn't believe
the low prices.  are these dumps or what?
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    hey!  three finger cowboy may not be the band for everyone, but *i* personally think they're pretty good. i guess you just have to have a taste for junior-high-pop-punk.  speaking of 3fc. . .dresden5@aol.com., are you gonna send me that cd soon?

love,
emily

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polite request, not a flame:

you wrote: three finger cowboy is a terrible band <-- in your opinion
you wrote: three finger cowboy sucked <-- to you

you know, if you want to be a critic, go ahead, but could you be a little
more constructive about it? i see tactful posts all the time where people on
this list say they don't care for an opening act or the act is "not their
cup of tea". those aren't hurtful. you don't have to like every band that
opens for ig, but for godsakes, don't be so mean. especially if the band is
on amy's label. you just never know who reads this board.

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date: fri, 17 dec 1999 00:58:12 -0500

i'm sure the other atlanta listees are still hanging out together, but i'm
home early to sleep so i can get off work early and go to the other
concert tomorrow.  a few quick commetns, i'll leave the rest to others (or
myself when i"m a little less tired:).  3 finger cowboy sucked, a terrible
band.  the concert was great, i got an aerobic workout dancing the whole
time, and (drumroll please . . .. ) i got a pic!!!! i'm so excited.  i
wasn't even standing that close to the stage, i was hanging back catching
up wtih old friends i'd run into at the show, and it landed on the floor
at my feet and i bent dwon and picked it up.  i was afraid to put it in my
pocket, so i held it as i drove the whole way home!  it's amazing how
happy a little piece of yellow plastic makes me.  ahhhh, one more
showtomorrw
:)carrie

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you're right.  3fc is not for everyone.  i will say that they were better
than the first time i saw them.  i get a kick out of watching the drummer -
he's a wild man.  the folks around me seemed to enjoy them, too.  amy was
watching them from just off stage for most of their set.
michelle malone opens tonight.
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at 10:25 am 12/17/99 est, zinestress girl wrote:
>    hey!  three finger cowboy may not be the band for everyone, but *i*
personally think they're pretty good. i guess you just have to have a taste
for junior-high-pop-punk.  speaking of 3fc. . .dresden5@aol.com., are you
gonna send me that cd soon?
>
>love,
>emily
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i woudl say its a career defining single it was the first song i heard on
the radio by them it was the first video on mtv i ever saw by them n both
spots it was their first that got regular air play
i went to see ig in concert because of that son
and they didnt play it argggh heh
sorry it still burns me loland it was the rop tour
but i digress its what got me into the girls in the first place

>  galileo/indigo girls
>  the combined strengths of amy ray and emily saliers-as grammy-winning,
> multi-platinum singer-songwriters, multi-instrumentalists, and environmental
> and sociopolitical activists (especially on behalf of native american
> rights)- afford them an unique platform from which to address today's real
> life-or-death issues. with a myriad of friends at the ready from the realms
> of folk, pop, world beat, country, and alternative (like the guest list on
> this career-defining single), the indigo girls have cross-pollinated music
> and social messages like no other group in the 1990s.
>
>
> ;) there ya go... "career-defining single"... i dunno, i'm sure there'll be a
> big debate on that one... but it's great to see them honored up there with
> the best... the folk, blues, gospel cd is actually my favorite so far... the
> collection is excellent, but enormous... i got it for my birthday on sunday
> and still haven't been able to hear all the music!! i did sneak a peak at the
> international... not just for ricky martin, but this great version of "break
> my stride" by an austrian band... heh heh
>
> peace,
>  rick
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>>>>
galileo/indigo girls
the combined strengths of amy ray and emily saliers-as grammy-winning,
multi-platinum singer-songwriters, multi-instrumentalists, and environmental
and sociopolitical activists (especially on behalf of native american
rights)- afford them an unique platform from which to address today's real
date: wed, 22 dec 1999 23:30:01 +0000
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life-or-death issues. with a myriad of friends at the ready from the realms
of folk, pop, world beat, country, and alternative (like the guest list on
this career-defining single), the indigo girls have cross-pollinated music
and social messages like no other group in the 1990s.
;) there ya go... "career-defining single"... i dunno, i'm sure there'll be
a big debate on that one... >>>

not to go off on a tangent or anything...  but

i know that kristen (kz) will be expecting this from me, but even though i
recognize "galileo" as a big song and a wonderful thing for ig, and as much
as i love most of their other stuff... i hate galileo... despise it.. of
course, i've never been to a concert where they didn't play "galileo,"  it's
good live, because ig gets into it, and since they are playing anything at
all... i'll dance to it (i'd dance to mr. roger's neighborhood if they
played it). but i swear at the 2nd fillmore concert, when they got ready to
play it, i kind of rolled my eyes, and i swear.. amy saw (i was in the
front, behind one other person), and laughed at me. or maybe someone else
did the same thing, and she was laughing at them.. or maybe she was just
happy... but i've taken some good natured and not so good natured criticism
for not liking "galileo." does this make me less of an ig fan? i think
not... i've been a fan since i was too young to go to their concerts. when
my mom found out they were lesbians and banned them, i hid them in my locker
at school and listened to them on a walkman. (yes, that's joanne..
contraband ig fan for you).

i love all ig songs, with the exceptions of 3 or 4... this just happens to
be one.. does anyone else share this dislike? if not.. does anyone have an
ig song they hate?? i'm sure this has gone around before.. i remember seeing
it years ago... so i'll drag it back out.

anyone? tell me i'm not alone? thanks : )

joanne

"nolite te bastardes carborundorum"
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>does anyone have an ig song they hate?

history of us and this train revised...there are other songs that don't
appeal to me, but these are the only two that i skip everytime...

lindy

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urrgghhhh!!!  i love both of those songs. oh well to each his own... i
really don't have any songs that i dislike.  maybe prince of darkness. i
don't know it just strikes a funny nerve with me, but i always listen to
it anyway....
peace and love,
        carrie

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you're not bothering me


on thu, 16 dec 1999, vesper evensong wrote:

> someone emailed me yesterday and asked me to read all the posts on a
> particular subject before responding.  i agreed, and thanked her for the
> suggestion.  today, she sent me a nasty email informing me that she was
> blocking my email address, because my "one-line posts are a waste of time."
> i don't mind being blocked by this person, (igsoulmate@hotmail.com), but i
> see no purpose being served by sending a pissy email to that effect. i am
> trying to be nice to people even if i don't agree with them or whatever, and
> i would appreciate it if others would do the same.  most of you seem to be
> very considerate, and a couple of you have been wonderful to me(you know who
> you are)
> i am sorry if i posted too much or with not much to say, and i will try to be
> more aware of posting uninteresting or irrelevant things in the future.
> pax
> vesper
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airplane, caramia and andy top my list of least favorites...

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well i really like everyone elses least fav's...
the ones i skip every time are "three hits" , the studio version of
"chickenman" (much better live), and while i don't skip it every time, "faye
tucker" (another track that is only good live--to me)
my two cents...(and one of my first posts..hehe)
rachel

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i'm trying to find out how i can go to he ig live
chat today.  i've found hob.com, but i'm so confused, i don't find
anyplace there that says
live chats.  am i doing something wrong? what must i do to get there?

peace

barb

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hey,

went to the star bar show on thursday afternoon.  it might have been the most
intimate venue i've ever seen them play.  (it's slightly smaller than eddie's
attic and the point, too, i think.)  they let a handful of people in before the
soundcheck started.  we got ushered to the downstairs bar while everyone else
was lined up outside.  so about 8 or 10 of us were in the stairwell listening
while amy & emily were warming up.  it was a silly but fun moment, kind of like
being trapped in an elevator.  emily's camouflage pants got the thumbs down.
the show was nothing but standing room.  they sounded really good.  i tried to
also tape it off the radio.  i plugged my stereo into one of those timers for
christmas tree lights.  it worked, except they got started so late that the tape
ran out before they finished "closer to fine".  their voices weren't mic'ed well
enough over the radio, though.  they sounded better in person.

the show at the tabernacle was great.  i'd seen them once on this tour when they
played homecoming at the university of georgia.  this was _much_ better.  the
crowd _was_ great.  i think the venue had a lot to do it.  the tabernacle is
excellent.  the general admission area is so close and the stage is slightly
elevated and the floor is slightly angled downward so you can see over the
people in front of you very well.  the two balconies are also quite close in and
the ceiling is so high that the acoustics are excellent.  the other thing that's
a factor is that their show on this tour has a very nice balance of hard v soft,
electric v acoustic, guitars v mandolin/banjo, quiet listening v singalongs.
really an oustanding mix.

didn't write down the setlist, but highlights for me were "trouble", "shed your
skin" (featuring amy's best rock star posing -- still wish the instrument jam
was _tons_ longer than just a few bars), "sister" (mesmerizing), "ozilline" (you
could tell that blair was trying to push the tempo faster while amy was trying
to slow it down; the tension added to the dramatic effect of it), "cold beer and
remote control", "faye tucker" and "andy".

they had a new guitarist sitting in with them (just for these two shows?) who's
from sheryl crow's band.  he wasn't noticeable except for excellent slide guitar
on "andy".

outstanding show.

i also thought three finger cowboy was _horrible_.  i'd seen them once before
and didn't like them much then, but this seemed to be an even longer set of
really bad material.  their closing song featured the lead singer starting out
with just her voice and guitar for the first verse.  she was so off key that the
people around me in the first couple of rows were cringing.

i tried to go over to the cnn hotel to find the listmeet, but i only saw a
handful of people who didn't seem to be together at what i thought was the
lounge bar that people had said.  did it happen?

re: kristen hall's new material, i haven't listened to the new cd but i did go
to her cd release show at eddie's attic last saturday.  i'm not much of a kh
fan, but my friend who invited me is a big fan.  we both came away with the same
reaction, though: that her new california collaborative material isn't as good
as her atlanta solo stuff.  two of her california collaborators, judith martin
and mark (?) opened for her and you could hear their influence (or just the
general blandness of the l.a. style) on the new songs kristen did in her set.
it just seemed a lot less personal, a lot more sing-songy (rather than played at
her old, slower dramatic tempo) if that makes any sense.  andrew hyra, from the
local band billy pilgrim sang with her for one song and then did one of his own
at her request.  i haven't heard bp much, but i didn't take an immediate liking
to this one song (about going to an opening at a hollywood museum). from a
non-fan's point of view, i think she's better off having left the influence of
la-la land and come back to atlanta.

looking forward to tonight's show and a much better opener (michelle malone).

ron
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i need to know that too!

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in a message dated 12/17/1999 10:51:09 am pacific standard time,
mcamism2@cc.wwu.edu writes:

> >does anyone have an ig song they hate

i hate to admit it, but "touch me fall" makes me want to take a nap.  lol.  i
like the faster parts of it....especially the end...but when it came out, i
remember just thinking, "huh?"

mis

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my very least favorites would be caramia, cut
it out, language or the kiss, history of us,
gone again.  most favorites  are chickenman
(live that is.)  virginia wolfe,  ghost, shame on you, scooter boys,
fugitive,

though i think that the radio stations have gone into overkill with
galileo and closer to fine, i
would reeeeeeeealllly,miss them if they ever get left out of a show.

my two cents worth.

barb

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tough one, because every song that i think is my least favorite, i start
to like when i hear it in concert or something... i think probably andy.
i just can't seem to get into that one, even though it is a beautiful
song when they sing it live... still doesn't do anything for me - sorry!

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you have to register with yahoo.com  just go to the yahoo.com website click
on chat (near the top beneath the search box) and register and you should see
a little ad about the ig chat today (look to the left), this is a yahoo chat
not hob.

luann

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hey there joann,
i've been off the list for a bit, but this gave me a good
laugh. thanks and ah well, i still love it...

much to say. or maybe not. either way will try to collect
my thoughts and post sometime over the weekend.

be well, all,
kc

>
> i know that kristen (kz) will be expecting this from me, but even though i
> recognize "galileo" as a big song and a wonderful thing for ig, and as much
> as i love most of their other stuff... i hate galileo... despise it.. of
> course, i've never been to a concert where they didn't play "galileo,"  it's
> good live, because ig gets into it, and since they are playing anything at
> all... i'll dance to it (i'd dance to mr. roger's neighborhood if they
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hello everyone!!!!
     i plan on getting a guitar for myself sometime after christmas and
am trying to find someone who teaches. i live in nj and go to school in
nyc so if anybody can help me out with any suggestions i'd really
appreciate it. also, how much is too much to pay for a lesson?
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ah, man...i love andy, but i guess to each his own...
my least favorite songs would have to be "cut it out" and "the girl with the
weight of the world in her hands" and "blood quantum", none of which i've
ever been able to get into all that much. and i guess my absolute least
favorite song of theirs would be "center stage". just my thoughts. (and
thanks to all those that responded with info on the early recording disks, by
the way.)
take it easy.
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i don't hate any of their songs, but the ones that come closest are
"history of us," "airplane," and "cut it out."  "you left it up to me"
doesn't overly appeal to me, either.


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i think my least favorites would have to be:

peace tonight
power of two
we are together

and my most favorites:

sister
love will come to you
strange fire

peace,
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--- ron mcbay <usul@mindspring.com> wrote:

> i also thought three finger cowboy was _horrible_.
> i'd seen them once before
> and didn't like them much then, but this seemed to
> be an even longer set of
> really bad material.  their closing song featured
> the lead singer starting out
> with just her voice and guitar for the first verse.
> she was so off key that the
> people around me in the first couple of rows were
> cringing.

...and that is her normal voice, folks...not just an
"off" night.  she seems like a really nice person and
everything, but the fact of the matter is she is tone
deaf.  and it seems to me that someone who constantly
drifts off key would seek vocal coaching to eliminate
this before they go out and play professionally.  if
you don't mind listening to singers who cannot seem to
stay on key (and there are many people who aren't
bothered by that), that's fine, but i personally
prefer to hear lead singers who can carry a tune
throughout most of a song.  i've seen 3fc two or three
times and i cringe every time.  not a flame, just an
observance.

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hands down "history of us,"  "philosophy of loss," and
"cut it out."


favorite?  too many to choose from, but for starters,
"hand me downs," "southland in the springtime,"
"world falls," "ghost," and "go."   actually, pretty
much everything off of nis and rop... :o)

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just wanted to share this, since there are so many pet
owners on the list.

this past sunday night, an adorable six-month-old
orange tabby male kitty hanging around my apartment
"adopted" me.  i think someone dropped him off.
anyway, this is my first cat!  i named him galileo.
last night he was rowdy and meowing/moaning loudly
because apparently there is a female in the
neighborhood looking for love.  i put on my rop cd and
he came over and just melted underneath the coffee
table and went to sleep!  he seems to be intrigued by
the sound of acoustic guitars and seems to respond to
emily's voice in particular.  very soothing for an
agitated kitty.  :o)  can anyone offer any advice or
share any pearls of wisdom on raising a male kitty?
and yes, i do plan to have him "fixed" soon... <g>

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hi all!
i'm kinda new here and wanted to pop in, say hello and comment on this
thread.
i'd have to say my least faves have got to be "cut it out" (although,
when i am at work and people start throwing projects and papers my way,
i can be heard murmuring, "...cut it out, cut it all out...")
i also don't really dig "airplane," but for some reason everytime i'm
stuck in an airplane flying somewhere i bring rop and listen to it. hmm.
and, on cons, the only song i don't really like (yet) is "compromise."
but, i think it has the possibility of growing on me.

and favorites...ah! all the rest...well, my total, utmost, top favorite
songs have got to be "reunion," "joking," and "cold beer and remote
control."

just my few pennies,

-elaine


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you know, off the top of my head i can't really think of any. i know
that there are a couple i habitually skip though.  i didn't like "andy"
at all until someone posted the _toy_story_ analogy of it being about
andy and his toys.  it's kinda cute when i'm in that mind set, and i
don't listen to all the words.  otherwise i really don't enjoy what the
song says.

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so how early do they let you log into the chat system? i'm trying now,
but having no luck...

let me know!
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i've been trying basically continually since more than 20
min before the chat and can't get any.


so... a transcript?? anybody?? damnit.

kc
> so how early do they let you log into the chat system? i'm trying now,
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> so... a transcript?? anybody?? damnit.

well it's 1:30 now...er 6:30 et, and still no sign of
them.  the natives are getting restless...or at least
talking dirty.  anybody else in there still?

lori


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hey. i'm in the chat but i can't see the girls' answers or the questions
- just the regular old chat, but i guess they are there and are
talking... wierd. this always happens to me! :)

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so i got in the chat, but couldn't see the questions or the answers!
does anyone have a transcript of the event? if so, please please please
email me!

love,
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setlist anyone? im dying...

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blah blah *contraband ig, goodnatured dislike of galileo*
snip!

i love all ig songs, with the exceptions of 3 or 4... this just happens to
be one.. does anyone else share this dislike? if not.. does anyone have an
ig song they hate??

snip!

well, i might as well throw in my well worn 2 cents... at one time, not too
long ago, i was a camp councelor at a girl scout camp in pa... and a buddy of
mine and i both discovered many things about each other (stop thinking that!),
particularly that we both liked folk music, and liked singing together,
playing together, and harmonizing. of course, what do i suggest but "let's try
some indigo girls!", the brilliant person that i am. anyways, we end up
playing 2 songs together: galileo, and a galileo parody about the camp. well,
what happened was that verrry quickly nomatter where either she or i was, we
were constantly bombarded with adolecent requests to "play galileo! play
galileo!" whether we had our guitars with us or not, or even if my friend and
i were present in the same acre of land. that turned into a looong summer...

so, the point is, yes i can understand disliking galileo to a certain extent.
i like it again, and is now a signature cover of mine, but thats the life.
more importantly, i think we need to consider a&e- do you think that maybe,
every once in a while, they get sick and tired of singing c2f? they have been
playing it at virtually every performance they ever put on for the last ten
years or more, and thats a lot of refrains.

just a thought,
meredith

ps. i also dislike "airplane" with a passion. i cannnot stand that song... and
sometimes "nashville" just hits me wrong.

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so what'd ya do today?
oh booked my flight to australia then chatted with the indigo girls
online.
cool. good day.
yup.

soliciting suggestions for sights to see, places to go, stay, eat, be
merry in australia (in march of course!)

:)

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this is borriing.  not only can i not participate
thanks to many reasons.......i can't read what
the girls are saying, or tell if they are even there.  i don't
understand,  of all places you'd
think the girls would have the chat on their site,
especially since they own it. but yahoo uses hcml, they at webtv say
that yu canuse html
but it's at your own risk.  anyway  the girls own chat at their website
is a hell of a lot better....it
actually works for webtv users.          dang!!!

barb

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well i got in and saw the questions...but i dont have a transscript.  i was talking to a girl that was having the same problems as ya'll.  that sucks..it was ok but it was way too short.  i hope they do it again sometime.

carla  :ož

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blah blah *contraband ig, goodnatured dislike of galileo*
snip!

i love all ig songs, with the exceptions of 3 or 4... this just happens to
be one.. does anyone else share this dislike? if not.. does anyone have an
ig song they hate??

snip!

well, i might as well throw in my well worn 2 cents... at one time, not too
long ago, i was a camp councelor at a girl scout camp in pa... and a buddy of
mine and i both discovered many things about each other (stop thinking that!),
particularly that we both liked folk music, and liked singing together,
playing together, and harmonizing. of course, what do i suggest but "let's try
some indigo girls!", the brilliant person that i am. anyways, we end up
playing 2 songs together: galileo, and a galileo parody about the camp. well,
what happened was that verrry quickly nomatter where either she or i was, we
were constantly bombarded with adolecent requests to "play galileo! play
galileo!" whether we had our guitars with us or not, or even if my friend and
i were present in the same acre of land. that turned into a looong summer...

so, the point is, yes i can understand disliking galileo to a certain extent.
i like it again, and is now a signature cover of mine, but thats the life.
more importantly, i think we need to consider a&e- do you think that
maybe,every once in a while, they get sick and tired of singing c2f? they have
been playing it at virtually every performance they ever put on for the last
ten years or more, and thats a lot of refrains.

just a thought,
meredith

ps. i also dislike "airplane" with a passion. i cannnot stand that song... and
sometimes "nashville" just hits me wrong.

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hey yall i was on the chat with the ig's and they said that they were planning a tour of just the two of them in like march i think...they also said they were going to do the highschool thing again...yyyyeeeeaaaaahhhhhh!!!!

just thought yall should know.

carla :ož

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this is borring,  i can get in, but  since webtv doesn't take hcml and
yahoo has to convert to html, and the yahoo html doesn't seem to work
worth you know what,  i can see the discussion of everyone  but i can't
ask a question.

it won't go through.  you can only see what the celebrities say if you
are talking to the and they are talking to you.  it's just nuts!  why
they don't
use their  chatroom at their official website, since they own it, is
beyond me.  it sure would make things easier.....i can actually use that
one.

barb

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i got in the chat, and i could see the questions and responses.  ;)  sorry to
those of you who couldn't.  most of the questions have been addressed to the
girls before, (through interviews, articles, etc.) so honestly, don't feel
too bad if you missed it.  also, there were quite a few people in the room
making rude, inappropriate comments, and were obviously there just to create
a scene...it got very annoying after a while.  someone said that the yahoo
site will post a transcript eventually...not sure if that is true, but
thought i would mention it.  =)

have a great night!
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i hope they come back to mpls, i like it best with just them.

peace

barb

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hey everyone... someone had a cd boot of the 11/6 berkeley show. i'm
trying to get a cd copy of the show for my still-girlfriend (and
jennifer, if you tell her that, i will be quite irate! ;) ) so if anyone
knows where i can get ahold of one, that would be totally cool! i have a
bunch of stuff to trade...

i'm still looking for a tape or cd of the 11/7 show and the 12/3 and
12/4 ones too if at all possible!!!!! :)

love,
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the scan url once more is:
http://www.go.to/neilytones
as a few people have asked.
or you could try
http://members.xoom.com/neilytones/

anyway:

there were two rooms for chat... one had people who got there before 6pm or
so, the other had an 'ask a question' box at the bottom (i had done a little
research in the chat beforehand, always good to do, and knew what to
expect). you had to log back in if you were in the first room and you'd get
the second room, by which time it was too late to tell the other folks about
it...

anyhow, i had a couple of questions answered... but you couldn't highlight
the transcript to copy it.

a coupla questions (bearing in mind not all the questions and answers showed
up for everyone, so these may not be matched up) that interested me. in
fact, most of the questions were cool...

me: have you given any serious thought to an official reissue some of your
pre-strange fire releases??
emily - ha, ha ha, - the answer is no! a lot of those early songs make me
cringe, my writing!
amy - mine to, it sucks. we might end up bootlegging them ourselves. and let
them be bootlegs and online trading.

(how little do they know...)

twm: emily, are you aware of the similarity betwen "philosophy of loss" and
the sesame street song "i don't want to live on the moon"?? :o) ??
emily - my god, yes!

me: *basically* coming to england soon?
igs - *paraphrasing* winter or springtime perhaps/maybe

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it's funny how you keep postponing certain tasks until it's almost six
months later, and you still haven't concluded a review of a wonderful indigo
girls-filled weekend of music! lol.

this is what i remember...

sunday, august 8, 1999

i left off my review by posting random comments about the newport folk
festival artists that we had taken in (with our ears).

that morning, what i didn't mention earlier, shel, jill, and i spent the
night in the car, and spent a few hours' waiting/sleeping on the lawn to be
the first in line as security placed a wooden boundary, the 'starting
point', in the 'wee small hours of the morning'.  it seemed like a gunshot
started our foot and bike race to the entrance line, but we raced down a
mile or so.  hysterical.

it started lightly raining around 7 a.m.  and between that time and around
12:30pm, we got drenched!  i got the corniest sense of humor sometimes, and
had one of the baigls fans take a picture of me holding up my umbrella, my
bottle of water, and sunblock lotion in my yellow hooded trashbag outfit.
the 'moat' around fort adams was overflowing and flooded the front part of
the field where the audience was standing/sitting.  must have been five
inches of water in some parts!
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the indigo girls came out after a great set by suzanne vega--amy in a
striped black on white long-sleeve shirt over her famous black tanktop and
levis' blue jeans, and emily in a blue denim long sleeve shirt over a white
t-shirt, and black/heather grey sweats.  their setlist:

least complicated/shame on you/trouble/gone again/love's recovery/faye
tucker/get out the map/three hits/peace tonight/sister/galileo/go/kid
fears/closer to fine

they seemed pretty happy to be playing nff for the sixth (?) year in a row,
especially to a view of the sailboats, the high and long bridge, and a part
of the atlantic ocean.  the day had dried up to greet their music, and was
only overcast when they performed.  this particular weekend of concerts was
void of any small talk besides a "thanks y'all" here and there, but you
could tell they were happy to be playing live once again.

(the following is snipped from my journal.)

monday, august 9, 1999 - saratoga performing arts center

...we are on our last day of our ig roadtrip!  i can't believe it has flown
by so fast.  it's like i want my life to just be roadtripping to indigo
girls' concerts, writing poetry, and just vegging out under the sky...
    at spac, we picked up tickets--actually, [a friend] had seen us pull
into the parking lot and approached jill.  [she] and her friend were
[swimming] and invited us to [join] them.  so we did.  it was a wonderful
reprieve to go in the chilly water after the mush slippery moss feeling was
forgotten.  shelley discovered the 'water slide' on a flat bed of cement at
the base of the four-foot falls--you had to butt slide yourself up on one
side and let yourself go at the most forceful part of the stream--whee!

amy and emily & co. were doing sound check and their lovely voices and tunes
were floating our way...with the background of fluttering stream noises.
emily even sang "river" and a slow song that was pretty and dreamy [in
retrospect, it was probably "andy", but we couldn't understand the words
from where we were swimming.].  sister waffled toward us while we headed to
the car to drop off our wet clothes.

...shel and jill made posters to hold up during the concert, and we
enthusiastically waved our "go" signs, "we love rose" sign, and "tell us a
story" sign, etc. [end of journal quote]

the correct order of the setlist (since it's not in order on lifeblood):
cold beer and remote control/gone again/ghost/shame on you/least
complicated/sister/peace tonight/tried to be true/get out the map/or (rose
polenzani w/ ig)/faye tucker/love's recovery/trouble/kid
fears/go/galileo--encore: cedar tree/closer to fine (w/ rose)

the acoustic numbers were enthusiastically greeted, amy commented briefly on
the "who is clarity?" sign, and it was a treat to hear cedar tree with its
proper irish flavor (the new band).

all along the trip, we met listees(elaine/leslie/indigo
babs/kathleen/tim/mike r.&more!), young and old, gay and straight,
men/women... and it was just a grand old time.  one to sparkle in the memory
banks of highs.

diane


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hey chicago ig fans! go to www.wxrt.com and vote for ig for best album, best
song, and best concert of the year!!

peace
dottie

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yesterday, i was driving in downtown harrisburg, and i see a red jeep with
the license plate "ig diva".  talk about opposites.  'course, it was also
fun to hear "gone again" on wxpn (the world cafe's host's song of the year)
this past week. and while playing volleyball, hear someone yell, "three
hits!" and my brain knee jerk to "...to the heart, son, and it's poetry in
motion..."

current favorites: prince of darkness, language or the kiss, philosophy of
loss, blood and fire.

current least favorites: none.

diane - who just discovered it's really relaxing to hear self-titled "indigo
girls" cd at low volume when getting ready to nap.
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hey ya'll!  this is my first post to the list in over 3 years.  i
recently rejoined and had to put in my two cents.  i can't really say
that i have any ig songs i really dislike. maybe hey jesus, but i really
do like all of their stuff, for different reasons.  like, i used to skip
over history of us.  but then my (now ex) gf sang it to me when she was
off at school, 700 miles away.  and now i can't hear the song without
thinking of her.  the first time i listened to cons and heard andy, it
really reminded me of anne murray.  did anyone else get that vibe?  so
has been my favorite album so far.  but i really really love cons the
more i listen.  i love the diversity of styles.  but then i go back and
listen to nis and rop, and it's just so hard to choose a fav.  so,
anyway, i just wanted to say hi.

peace,
jen

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my least favorites: (in chronological order)

land of canaan - i could stand this song (barely) if
only they didnt keep putting it on every album!

123 - another annoying song made more annoying by
having multiple versions on multiple albums

pushing the needle too far - just personal preference,
a little too gritty

airplane - i actually like this song a lot, and enjoy
singing it, but there is this one note they hit that
must be the same frequency as my skull or something
because it makes my brain matter hurt!

cut it out - i like the punky side of the ig but some
songs are just too gritty and hard. i've said this
before but.. the albums are almost getting
over-produced. it might soon be time (ironically!) for
an ig unplugged...

compromise - ditto. this song and faye tucker made my
first listen of cons register in my brain as "oh my
god this album is half 1700s folk and half death
metal". just first impressions mind you :-)

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i have to agree with that one...andy is probably my least favorite off
of cons...but god some of the lines in that song still hit me like a ton
of bricks...i'm hopeless i know...
peace and love.
        carrie

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it is neat to hear everyones opinions about songs.but god touch me
fall?! how much sexier can amy's voice really get.  it
s so deep and powerful and well i could go on and on...lol...just my 2
cents worth...
peace and love.
          carrie

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power of two?!  arghhhh... that one is one i would fight to the death
over. i guess when you have someone that makes you truly understand that
song, it makes a difference...
again, just my 2 cents...
   peace and love,
              carrie

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i need your address once more so i can send you your christmas card!
(it was returned to me, i;m not sure why.)

thanks

barb

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i've never been fond of "chickenman."

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hi ~

for me, it is probably "history of us" and maybe "peace tonight."  the rift
in the chorus of that song just doesn't appeal to me...maybe because the
progressions remind me of a song that my college music prof wrote for the
choir to sing.  it strikes me as too blunt.  i love "chickenman"...live.

i love the indigo girls...imagine this thread being posted for any other
artists?  there would be ten or fifty songs people just don't "enjoy."

a & e, you are the end all, be...

vicki

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i would love to get a transcript of the chat..if anyone has it i would
be so grateful...
peace and love,
        carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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ok, does anyone else have an absolute obsession with dead man's hill on 1200
curfews?  when amy sings, "standing underneath the night..."

oh, wow!  that's all that needs to be said about that :)

i can't tell you how many times i've rewound the cd for those 3 seconds.  :)

happy weekend,
carrie

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touch me fall doesn't quite do it for me as
well as shed your skin.  it might sound naive
to say it but, "there's something about shed your skin that  seems so
bold and innoecent
enough to render one defenseless.  i find that
a turn on." touch me fall  almost gets there except for the second half
of the song.


peace,

barb

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my least faves would have to be cut it out (although it's great in concert)
and walk away...they just seem too much like vent songs to me..i guess i
shouldn't discriminate, so my least fave emily song is prolly left me a
fool..it's just entirely too long:)

pax, celeste

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please enlighten me, those of you who do not like "andy"

why?  i think it is well written.  metaphorically, it addresses the "broken"
and "mundane" issues folks face.  just curious.  i think that the music
enhances that theme.  just my 1 penny ~

vicki

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in a message dated 99-12-17 23:54:27 est, barbarafrommn@webtv.net writes:

<< touch me fall doesn't quite do it for me as
well as shed your skin.  it might sound naive
to say it but, "there's something about shed your skin that  seems so
bold and innoecent
enough to render one defenseless.  i find that
a turn on." touch me fall  almost gets there except for the second half
of the song. >>
i agree with that, too.  let the flames begin.

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1200 curfews                indigo girls             epic a 10/10/95
494,179
4.5                         indigo girls                        epic a
10/27/95           1,534
come on now social          indigo girls      epic a 09/28/99        161,458
four point five best of     indigo girls        pid  a 02/24/98
793
galileo                     indigo girls             sny  s 05/21/92
      1,9451
hammer & a nail             indigo girls             sny  s 10/25/90
2,255
indigo girls                indigo girls             epic a 02/24/89
1,283,799
indigo girls:watershed      indigo girls          epic v 11/22/94      18,294
indigo girls/strange fire/n indigo girls           epic a 06/30/98     8,992
indigo girls (ms)           indigo girls                  epic a 11/08/94
  7,519
joking                      indigo girls                      sny  s 08/12/92
         1,271
least complicated           indigo girls             epic s 07/05/94
8,365
least complicated           indigo girls             feed s 08/19/94
99
live at the uptown lounge   indigo girls      epic v 01/12/90      2,2716
live-back on the bus y'all  indigo girls        epic a 05/31/91     177,341
live at uptown              indigo girls                  epic v 01/17/90
   128
nomads indians saints       indigo girls         epic a 09/21/90     553,139
power of two                indigo girls                epic s 02/28/95
21,605
rites of passage            indigo girls             epic a 05/08/92
1,234,169
shaming of the sun          indigo girls             epic a 04/29/97
620,270
strange fire                indigo girls                 epic a 10/27/89
305,710
swamp ophelia               indigo girls             epic a 05/10/94
943,726
4.5 best of                 indigo girls (import)    phan a 07/02/97
2,225

anyone know what this one is???

least complicated           indigo girls    ???-----> feed s 08/19/94
99

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in a message dated 12/17/99 5:09:54 pm eastern standard time,
morrison_joan@yahoo.com writes:

<< anyway, this is my first cat!  i named him galileo. >>


who named him?

indi    :)

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carrie knepp wrote:
>
> i have to agree with that one...andy is probably my least favorite off
> of cons...but god some of the lines in that song still hit me like a ton
> of bricks...i'm hopeless i know...
hell... the whole song hit me like a ton o' bricks, so i'm even morther
hopelesser...
i love the song, it's all sad and full of warm sunny southern feel n'
angst... and...
and it's time fer bed...
kim... who was reading over her gf's shoulder whilst the gals were in
chat on yahoo... too cool.
well... love that amy... but an emily fan i still remain (much to my
gf's complete exasperation)

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ok, my least faves are mostly on the self-titled and strange fire cd's...hey
jesus, make it easier, that boppy version of land of canaan on ig...i don't
listen to these two much but i think i usually stop the disc after love's
recovery on ig. although after i heard that kick-ass version of center stage
live i like the song a lot better. later least favorites: caramia and andy.

favorites: land of canaan, reunion, the whole first side of rop, shame on
you...new favorites from cons: compromise, trouble, cb&rc :)

joan - congrats on the new kitty! that's how i got my first kitty, cleo - she
showed up at my apartment one day and i think someone left her :( :( just
make sure you get all his shots, get him fixed, keep him indoors (indoor cats
are happy cats), and check out how your area is for the heartworm virus. when
i lived in colorado i didn't have the cats on heartgard because heartworm
just didn't exist where i lived. but in cali it's rampant.

:) lisa (and cleo, cairo and pharaoh :)

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fun weekend so far!  :)  i wasn't gonna go to thursday's show.  just
friday's.  but i was in town and i drove by and saw a bunch of my buds
sitting out front, so i had to buy a ticket and go!  :)  glad i did.  it was
the loudest crowd i have ever heard!  i couldn't hear much after the concert
- not cause of ig but cause of the crowd.  amy and emily said we were the
best hometown crowd they'd ever had.  :)

today, i paid my dues and sat in line for like 12 hours.  but i got front row
again and got to see it all without any tall people blocking my view.

stereo popsicle was the first opener and of course they rocked.  that band is
so cool.  emily, of course, sang back up on jenny.  then michelle malone, the
beautiful and talented queen of eddie's, took the stage wearing her black
leather pants with silver stars down the legs.  :)  and a red tight t-shirt.
her set was great and, of course, emily came out and played guitar and sang
back-up on strength for 2.  very beautiful.  a lot stronger than mm's album
version, in my opinion.

the during the ig set, mm played guitar and harmonica on songs such as
chickenman, i don't wanna know, and midnight train to georgia.

i didn't write the setlists down, but some highlights other than the new
stuff and the standards like ctf, galileo, po2, and least complicated were
ghost, virginia woolf, love's discovery, kid fears - that's all i can
remember that weren't the everyday show norms.

i can't think of anything else to add.  it was all great and a really fun
2-day event.  it was cool sitting in line with some great fellow ig fans such
as chandy, saran?, carly, heather and danielle (my buds :), and a bunch of
other cool people.  cnn center became our home away from  home.  :)  i'll
remember a lot of cool memories from this experience.

now......onto more michelle tomorrow!  :)

amanda

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in a message dated 12/18/99 1:20:49 am eastern standard time,
lisa071573@aol.com writes:

<< the whole first side of rop,  >>

what, we talking vinyl here?  actually, i love this cd, lisa, and i couldn't
agree with you more on strange fire...

i am an airplane fan...that song brings me solace every time i fly, and i fly
a few times a year for my job!  cheers!

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in a message dated 12/17/99 10:09:05 pm eastern standard time,
folkgrl@webtv.net writes:

<< anne murray.  did anyone else get that vibe? >>

no, i can't say that i "felt" anne murray in that song. the quality of her
voice is too deep and resonant.  kind of like karen carpenter.  but, i can
see where you may have sensed some deepness in em's voice.  my personal
opinion is that emily sings with way more soul, and that is why i have loved
her for 10+ years.  just my opinion.

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carrie k wrote:
<< .but god touch me
fall?! how much sexier can amy's voice really get.   >>

lol...yep carrie, i know...i probably should have put it on my favorites list
cause i love it. oh shit and how did i forget fugitive?? i adore that song!!
(oh carrie - an aside - i mailed your tapes today :)

:)lisa

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in a message dated 12/17/1999 11:28:58 pm central standard time,
indigokat@aol.com writes:

<< << anyway, this is my first cat!  i named him galileo. >>

who named him?

indi    :) >>

yes, i named him...with a little help from my friend :o)

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<snip>
'course, it was also
fun to hear "gone again" on wxpn (the world cafe's host's song of the
year)this past week. and while playing volleyball...
<snip>

okay, as a disgruntled radio employee, i need to vent about wxpn.

they, very much like the majority of public radio/npr, are big snobs. i know
they put on some great music, and do good things for charities, and do good
work at the spring gulch folk fest that you can catch me at every spring, they
are absolutely snobby. public radio in general gets this superiority complex
that i can't figure out- i know this because i work at wfuv, xpn's big sister
station, and have worked with commercial radio befor. xpn is hostile towards
commercial radio, unwilling to take on interns, and is just as unfriendly to
'out of genre' music as the conglomerate-owned radio stations.

okay, i have said my piece. let the flames fly, but let them fly personally,
straight at me if you can help it. i'm just bitter and opinionated, remember
that.

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andy is my least favorite song on cons and one of a scant few ig songs that
just don't do it for me. scooter boys is another. some of them take a while
to grow on me (shed your skin, chickenman) but they almost always do.

i read that andy is about a girl in love with the boy and the parallels to
nature and i agree that its a really strong, well crafted piece and a
beautifully written story song. but it must be the melody or something
because i can't get into it. i don't hate it, i just don't like it as well
as most of their other songs.

some of my all-time favorite ig songs are land of canaan, ghost  (both of
which they did at the st. louis show on 12/1 and it was just incredible),
love's recovery, love will come to you...the list could go on and on...
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> please enlighten me, those of you who do not like "andy"
>
> why?  i think it is well written.  metaphorically, it addresses the
"broken"
> and "mundane" issues folks face.  just curious.  i think that the music
> enhances that theme.  just my 1 penny ~
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i've seen ig one other time during this tour, in dallas, tx.
in my opinion, the dallas show was the best.
the dallas show was more gritty and punky.
i like to thrash around and pretend i'm at a joan jett
concert and then come to the realization
that i'm not and then get all giddy.  this atlanta show was
a little too mellow.  the introspective songs i could do
without when i'm at a concert.  sure, i absolutely love the
songs like kid fears, power of 2, and galileo, but they
make me sad.  i do not want to conjure up sad memories at an
ig concert.  i want to boogie!  so, this atlanta show was
a little too slow and mellow.  but you see, i thought that
having michelle malone there would pep up the music.
malone's mom was there.  she helped michelle sing all i can
give you is me.  then, emily came out to sing, too.
sometime during all of that, amy, michelle's sister and
sheryl crow's lead guitarist came out.  the crowd's whispering
and pointing at amy could have been more discrete while
michelle and emily sang.  then, they all came out to sing.
i just stood there, jaw faced...that close to see michelle, michelle's
family, emily, sheryl crow's guy, and amy singing
there to me...thanking me for being one of the 10,000,000,000
served fans.  i looked at a couple of girls from the carolinas
behind me, who i had just met, and tried to say something but couldn't.

so, the beginning was good.  then, amy sang kid fears and it
all went down hill from there.  it's too sad to sing that
song to a hometown crowd.  galileo was the same.
an interesting tidbit was when amy was introducing the
song i don't wanna know, she said that mm thought it
was corny song even though she wrote half of it.
amy told her and us that it should mean something
to mm, but then mm said sarcastically, "oh yeah, it's sentimental."  after
this, the music mellowed out.  the crowd was
big and we all sang very loud.  amy and emily kept looking
at us with amazement.  i think they really have no clue
as to how special they are.  there ain't another band
like them anywhere with that much girl power behind them.
(there were some guys, too...drunk 40 year olds who
should've kept their mouths shut!!!)

after a while, i noticed that amy and emily were
talking to each other a lot...not into the mic.
i wondered what they were saying.  emily was very
concentrated on the music.  amy was too...more than
i've seen her concentrate.  mm was laid back.
usually, mm is the serious one.  my guess is that
they were a little tired and probably emotionally
hampered...which is why they should have rocked
to the house.  but, most folks like emily's writing.
that explains the overabundance of emily songs last
night.  it's true, research shows that most ig fans
like emily's stuff....came straight from the
management's mouth.

during scooter boys, one of my favs, amy started a semi-soc.
this was my favorite, and it's how i'll end this review:

she said, "tolerance ain't the same as acceptance,
even though we all wish it was"

-chee

i'm not really from atlanta.  i was raised in the 'burbs where golf course
etiquette is drilled into the minds of children and golf carts rule to bike
paths.  so, yeah, i got a little angst built up b/c of golf, but i love to
bowl.
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gotta say peace tonight and galileo, just because they are way overplayed
around here.  other than that that i love 'em all!

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<<tolerance aint the same as acceptance, even though we all wish it
was>>

i agree.  sometimes i wonder about all the talk
on how important it is to  "teach tolerance,"  what exactly does that
mean...."tolerance"......
that we should all just put up with each other?
i thnk if we're going to make the world a better place, it seems that we
need to go beyond that.

i think that instead of teaching "tolerance."  we need to focus on
"respect," because it's hard to "tolerate"  someone, when we don't have
much respect for their humanity first. i don't think we can achieve
acceptance without using respect as the first stepping stone  and
"tolerance" as the second .

peace,

barb

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hey,
they should tour as saliers and ray and play in little clubs around the
country! it would just be 2 women and their guitars. that would be beyond
awesome.

xo
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a few comments in response, i (admittedly a huge emily fan) did not think
the concert was emily heavy, but in comparison to thursday night, which
seemed to be more heavily amy (despite the fact that she had the flu), so
perhaps friday evened it out.  i was hoping it being the last stop of the
tour taht they would play more unusual songs, although i loved everything
(except scooter boys).  i'm really disappointed emily didn't do philosophy
of loss either night, but i think friday's show was better than
thursday's.  by the end of the concert i think i was the only sober person
there, or maybe that was just the people who were around me drunk and then
the others began smoking pot.  yech.  i hope the girls do a tour again
before a new album.  i would love ninety minutes of classics (and more of
those powerful emily songs!).  it's kind of hard to go back to ordinary
life after two nights of indigo shows, but i'm trying to readjust to
reality . . .
:)carrie

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<<tolerance aint the same as acceptance, even though we all wish it
was>>

        as usual, very true and powerful words from amy.

        however...i look upon the definition of tolerance: "the capacity or
practice of recognizing and respecting the opinions, practices or
behaviors of others."

        as i struggle for acceptance, i gladly embrace tolerance.


        thanks for listening,

        j

*****"human diversity makes tolerance more than a virtue; it makes it a
requirement for survival."   -rene dubos 1981 *****

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this is a side ocmment for all who travel.  never leave home without ur ig
material.  i only say that because i without it and now i am paying for it.
only have what is left in my head to listen to

tat

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i think the same *research* would show that most ig fans like amy's songs
too.  is that bogus or what?

i have a problem with words like *tolerance* and *acceptance* although i
understand amy's context.  but both words imply a position of superiority
with which i don't agree.  rather, it is the minority group which is often
put in a position of having to *tolerate* and/or *accept* the attitudes and
prejudices of the majority through sheer force of numbers.....in my vision
of an ideal world, a person's sexual orientation would be
inconsequential....

i was listening to my friend aerin tedesco's cd last night in preparation to
writing a review, and i was totally blown away by 'gabriel', which sounds a
bit like so vintage emily.... knowing both the writer and the person who
inspired the song, who is also a dear friend, i was tremendously moved by
both the music and the message.... it's a good life i live....

peace,
tim


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>most folks like emily's writing.
>that explains the overabundance of emily songs last
>night.  it's true, research shows that most ig fans
>like emily's stuff....came straight from the
>management's mouth.
>
>during scooter boys, one of my favs, amy started a semi-soc.
>this was my favorite, and it's how i'll end this review:
>
>she said, "tolerance ain't the same as acceptance,
>even though we all wish it was"
>
>-chee

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hey everyone - this is from the mm mailing list :) lisa

<<<so...this is the good part...in appreciation of all these things that you
have made possible, i have decided to make all cd's at
www.michellemalone.com $10 through the end of the year!!!!!!  we'll
priority mail out everything.
asap...but hurry...it's only until supplies last...

take care of  each other 365,
michelle malone>>>>

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perhaps the research is not as thorough as huge fans (such as ourelves
would like).  of the few ig songs played on the radio are emily songs (for
whatever reason).  i don't think the "mainstream" audience knows many amy
songs, or even knows the difference between the two.  just hypothesizing .
. .
:)carrie

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(to the tune of andy... just cause *i* like the song...)
santy...

ach ach achem...
santy are  ya watching me are ya comin
here on christmas day
bringin gifts to good folks places
and lumps o' coal to those who stray
i'm so sorry about last march
put that sign on granpa's back
skipped school and got real stoned
i spray painted dad's boss's new porche
you'd a' thought he woulda' liked the new two tone

santy i'm so sorry 'bout my mom
doc says she'll recover really soon
tripped on beer cans left on my floor boards
in her new body cast there aint too much
that she wont do
i have coached her with her washing load
and i assist her when she tries to do too much bending
i kindly point out that all of the barbed wire fences
in our pasture still need mending
and in the night when she's still working doin' dishes and all those
other
women's duties
i do my part e'en though i'm tired
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givin' her peace by headin' out to catch a movie

santy will ya slow down a little when my friends and i give chase
ya fed us dust when you were leavin'
looked just like my daddy partin' here in haste
sorry bout yer back tire when you screamed past
virgil he always shoots then asks the
questions but you got free

out through the fenced field mowin'
down horses, in yer old chevy ya musta done 'bout 93
glad you missed me....

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okay, okay, i'm answering old email, so flame away if you must.  i'm
clearing out my 'inbox' for the year 2000.

regarding 'mystery', one of the lyrics that jumped out from the lyric sheet
on the so cd, was "does it sing like the hymns of a 1000 years, or is it
just pop emotion?"  at first, i wondered why someone would compare their
love/infatuation with old church hymnals.  but i have gone around, my whole
life, dwelling on pop emotion, having crushes here and there.  i'm in love
with the whole 'falling in love' feeling that you get when you first meet a
stranger, and that 'mystery' is so intriguing.  "and to exist it must elude"
  ha--that is classic 'diane' infatuation.  it's wonderful to hear this song
in the late summer/early autumn, and sing along with the chorus, "i could go
crazy on a night like tonight, when summer's beginning to give up its fight,
and every thought's a possibility..."

now more levelheaded about love,
diane

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well i'm sitting here reading posts about "mystery" how the words mean so
much ... "standing at opposite poles, equal partners in a mystery" is the
lyric that keeps these tears running down my face...
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hi all,

i am in retrospect tonight, and wondered how many of you have heard the
brilliant harmonies of emily and amy on nanci griffith's "these days (are an
open book)?"

full on awesome...check out nanci's "flyer" if you have not yet heard this.

happy holidays, v

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  i just wanted to send out a big thanks to everyone who replied and
offered their thoughts and assistance, no matter how near or far they
were.  i have found a woman who takes in animals and then adopts them
out properly.  she came and took socrates saturday night.  he really
liked her, and took well to her, so i am not too worried.  i will miss
him greatly.  unfortunately there are things in life you just can't
control.  thanks again...
peace and love,
         carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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hi,'

i got an extra ig t-shirt at friday's tabernacle show.  it's the black one
that says "trouble came around here" on the front with the dates and cities
of all the shows on the back.  it's a large.   i paid $28 for it.  if anyone
wants it, i'll be glad to sell it for $20 plus $3.20 for shipping and
handling.   all interested parties, let me know via private email.

thanks, amanda

p.s.:  it's not been worn.

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well said.  i was really hoping to be able to hear more of their stuff.  i
think the sound was really bad.  there was a big difference between the
sound quality of thursday's show and friday's show.  i really noticed it
when stereopopsicle took the stage friday - i've heard them before and they
were awesome they rocked the house on friday but it was really difficult to
hear the lyrics.  even when michelle took the stage it was a bit rough for a
few minutes.  don't know if it was the mics, or the acoustics of the tab,
but even ig sounded a bit like they were in a tin can at the beginning of
thursday's show.  i just wanted to hear more of 3fc (namely the lyrics)
before i got the cd but i guess i will just have to give in and buy it.

nan

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just 2 words for ya:

they rocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


well i got to heather's at around 8am on thursday and got to enter the
shrine o'indigo.  heather, dearest, you got quite a collection.  we were
having a bit of a rough time in traffic on 75 (exscrewsyou meester truck
driver;) and ended up at the tab at around 3:30.  the line wasn't too bad
and we missed meeting up with cathy (sorry i knew i should have said
something coz i recognized the maroon jacket) so heather and i stood staring
at the trucks at the backstage entrance and saw two girls from miami meet
emily (they met amy too but we didn't witness that) and of course we were
jealous.  we brought signs but didn't hold them up until friday night -'cept
for the one that said "blair rocks - you go man!!!" and amy made a comment
about it "yea blair even has his own fanclub now"  ya huh - you betcha - the
man is awesome.  heather has the setlist so i'm sure she'll post it if not i
will when i get a copy.  thursday was a blur so i'm not real sure what they
played.  highlights for me:
1.      saw a&e live twice in one weekend (again)
2.      saw them in atlanta
3.      caught a glimpse of trina from stereopopsicle on thursday standing in the
balcony and met up with her after the show (trina if you're out there - 2
weeks love and the web site will be up)
4.      am now officially volunteering my programming talents to stereopopsicle
5.      signed a get well card for amy which these 2 incredibly nice girls with
shakers sent backstage for her with a heath food basket.
6.      sang till i sounded like a frog
7.      met up with mike and the rest of the listees at the omni afterwards
8.      crashed at about 3am
9.      was up at 11 callin' on trina to meet up with the band at 3
10.     meeting at 3 didn't pan out so i waited outside the backstage entrance
until about 6:55 and then went and stood in line.
11.     met sulli and she gave heather and i each a pic (thank you so much!!)
12.     saw stereopopsicle and mm in one night and ig (oh my!!)
13.     took in a sign "dear santa we want to meet amy and emiweeee" and someone
(sorry i can't remember your name i'm really bad) had christmas lights that
she held up on the sign.  amy read it and chuckled
14.     amy did a mini soc (yea!!!!)
15.     lots of good chit-chat from the stage amy seemed to be feeling a bit
better
16.     good camp feel to the night *can you feel the love in the room*
17.     sang chickenman!!!!!
18.     sang midnight train !!!!!
19.     heather got sulli's autograph 8-)
20.     while waiting for trina to come out after the show (thankful she saw me
smiling up at her from the crowd) heather and i got these backstage passes
(no names mentioned but thank you!!)
but we ended up missing ig at their meet & greet by about 5 minutes (argh!!!
so close yet so far)
and went back out to meet over at the rehearsal space for stereopopsicle.
21.     they shot video footage of the show which was awesome
22.     hung out with trina and tomi - heather you still breathing? ok good?
just in shock eh?
23.     crashed at 5am
24.     up at 11 again to go field trippin'
25.     went to watershed and saw who we thought was the lead singer for 3fc but
we still aren't sure
26.     went a drove around decatur looking at homes ;) (someday i will move to
atlanta!!)
27.     found out on the drive back from atlanta that heather did some of her
camp training under a "friend" of mine -- what a small world it is indeed


now i am totally exhausted coz i drove all night and got in around 6am and
am ready to crash.  will try to post something a bit more coherent later

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hey folks,

i just spent ages on the phone with ticketmaster only to
discover that tickets for the sydney ig show go onsale
tomorrow (tue 21 dec), not today as i was previously told.

grr.

-sherlyn
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hey all,

i had to chime in on the topic of a and e's songs.  i listened to the
first album the other day for the first time in a long time, and it
struck me how many of those tunes are amy tunes with amy on the lead and
em on harmony.  song after song.  i've now gotten to love the a song
followed by e song format!  just another reason why these girls rock our
world - they have different yet divergent styles and always learning new
stuff.  i agree with whoever said that amy has had that punky sound to
her stuff almost from the beginning.

hope everyone is happy where they are right now, and those of you who
are spending time with family for the first time in a while, enjoy the
opportunity to enrich your families' lives by really getting to know
them.  it took me way too long to learn how to love my family and let
them know me.

xoxo,

bonnie

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hey y'all
diane said this
<<regarding 'mystery', one of the lyrics that jumped out from the lyric
sheet
on the so cd, was "does it sing like the hymns of a 1000 years, or is it

just pop emotion?"  at first, i wondered why someone would compare their

love/infatuation with old church hymnals.>>

i love the lyrical content of that song, and what it says to me is
this.  some things endure forever; great poetry, great songs, hymns that
have been sung forever, and they profoundly affect people.  other things
(pop music, hallmark cards, romance novels) are just a little fluff to
enjoy for the moment, and then they pass on through our lives.  so emily
is wondering in her song, which is it?

to me, the "mystery" is how can 2 people who are so different stay in
love and make it work?  standing at opposite poles, my husband and i are
definitely equal partners in a huge-ass mystery.

bonnie

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<html>
hey y'all
<br> diane said this
<br><i><<regarding 'mystery', one of the lyrics that jumped out from
the lyric sheet</i>
<br><i>on the so cd, was "does it sing like the hymns of a 1000 years,
or is it</i>
<br><i>just pop emotion?"  at first, i wondered why someone would
compare their</i>
<br><i>love/infatuation with old church hymnals</i>.>>

<p>i love the lyrical content of that song, and what it says to me is this. 
some things endure forever; great poetry, great songs, hymns that have
been sung forever, and they profoundly affect people.  other things
(pop music, hallmark cards, romance novels) are just a little fluff to
enjoy for the moment, and then they pass on through our lives.  so
emily is wondering in her song, which is it?

<p>to me, the "mystery" is how can 2 people who are so different stay in
love and make it work?  standing at opposite poles, my husband and
i are definitely equal partners in a huge-ass mystery.

<p>bonnie</html>

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this is the first article i've ever posted to the list..i know...big deal,
right? well it is to me! i think it's from the san bernardino county sun

indigo girls carry on, after a year of loss and sadness

by steve dollar
cox news service

    when emily saliers and amy ray -- the atlanta folk-pop duo known as the
indigo girls--play their last shows of 1999, it will be an occasion for
reflection and celebration.
    it has been the best of times and the worst of them. they've weathered
the sudden deaths of close friends and family, but also made a breakthrough
concert trip to cuba, toured with the final installment of the lilith fair
and, in "come on now social" (epic), released one of the strongest albums in
their 19-year career.
    "in terms of loss this year was the worst year ever," says saliers, whose
29-year-old sister, carrie, was found dead in her los angeles apartment in
march. the los angeles county coroner's office ruled that she died from
natural causes.
    the new album is dedicated to carrie, and to others close to the
musicians, including the atlanta songwriter/performer known as benjamin, and
activists ingrid washinawatock el-issa and marcia gomez, members of the
indigenous women's network, with which the indigos are involved. "the message
of (my sister's) spirit was something i absorbed and lived by. there was so
much tragedy, but so much growth and inspiration," says saliers, 36.
    "our culture fights death tooth and nail," she continues. "these were
reminders of being a natural part of the whole intricate web, and that's been
a good lesson for me, as many tears as i've shed. i am eternally optimistic."
    ray, 35, concurs. "it was a hard year for us," she says, noting how the
death of a friend's grandmother inspired "go," the fired-up opening track on
"social," and the duo's plans to contribute a song to a tribute cd dedicated
to benjamin, who died in january at age 39.
    if anything, the performers have responded to sad events by investing
their music with a sense of urgency. if it once was easy to typecast the
indigos as diary-dipping coffeehouse harmonizers, it is no more. "social"
shows a band that is musically complicated -- banjos coexist with theremins
and beat boxes -- and thrilled to be rocking out. "i really, really love
playing electric guitar," saliers says.
    former atlanta vocalist kelly hogan says, "they're so nice you don't
think they could survive in the wilds, but they're rocking now. shocking and
rocking."
    saliers and ray, whose non-musical interests include social activism,
running an independent record label (ray's daemon) and launching a restaurant
(saliers' watershed, in decatur), thrive on surprises. though they've been
affiliated with lilith fair, they also took their own generation xx show on
the road: the 1998 "suffragete sessions," which featured varied female
artists.

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hey folks,

this was posted to the news-only list but is probably more
appropriate for here instead.  please direct any responses
to the original sender at fitamy@aol.com, not to me, thanks.

cheers,
sherlyn

---begin forwarded message---
>from: fitamy@aol.com
>date: sat, 18 dec 1999 15:37:00 est
>subject: the tabernacle show 12-19
>
>hey y'all -
>
>i have never posted anything to the newsgroup but this show was sooooo
>awesome i felt compelled to do it! this was the second show of the tour that
>i saw (first one @ the patriot center) and  all i have to say it wow! they
>were reallly on fire and it was great to see lots of different people up
>jamming with them. the "midnight train to georgia" was tres apropos - in
fact
>i called it earlier in the evening. the girls just really seemed to have a
>great time and atlanta fans are well - the best. i flew in from dc just to
>see them and it was well worth it.

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date:         sun, 19 dec 1999 22:03:27 -0500
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yes yes yes!  i must concur (as a huge fan of nanci as well:)  she's the
only other performer currently worthy of travelling with me (since she and
the girls combined taked up my twenty cd travel case:)  glad i'm not the
only nanci-lover on the list.
:)carrie

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wow!
what a morning!  we just scored front row tickets to ig in brisbane...8-)
we arrived at the ticket sales booth at 5.30am (yawn) armed with a trusty
guitar and lots of hope...and we got our front row tickets!!!!
i can't believe it, i keep looking at the tickets!  i'll be flying around
in my own little indigo world for the next few months now just thinking
about it!

anyone else going?  how'd you do?

giggling and dancing,
maddie

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a contributor to the bruce cockburn humans list posted a poem by galeano
that i think many here would enjoy, but i'm reluctant to post it due to its
length.  perhaps i can post it to egroups if there's enough interest, or
folks from the big list can email me privately....

tim

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i need some help!!  this summer, i hope to finally finish graduate school
and enter the real world.  as a graduation gift to myself, i would like to
buy a guitar, a few ig songbooks, take a few lessons, and live happily
ever after.  i have never even held a guitar before, but i want my first
one to last me a lifetime. i want it to be very cool!  i'm looking for an
acoustic guitar, but know nothing about them.

can anyone offer me any advice?  what to look for, how much to pay,
where to look, anything?  i like amy's black guitar.  what is that?

please e-mail me privately.
thank you in advance!!!


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http://cnn.com/1999/us/12/20/gay.marriage.ap/index.html


              vermont grants gay couples
              rights

              december 20, 1999
              web posted at: 12:48 p.m. est (1748 gmt)

              montpelier, vermont (ap) -- gay
              couples must be granted the same
              benefits and protections given married
              couples, the vermont supreme court
              ruled monday.

              the court said the legislature will
              determine whether such benefits will
              come through formal marriage or a
              system of domestic partnerships. "we hold that the state
is constitutionally
              required to extend to same-sex couples the common benefits
and protections
              that flow from marriage under vermont law," the justices
said.

              "whatever system is chosen, however, must conform with the
constitutional
              imperative to afford all vermonters the common benefit,
protection, and
              security of the law," the court said.

              it is "a question that the court well knows arouses deeply
felt religious, moral,
              and political beliefs," the justices said in their
decision.

              monday's decision, written by chief justice
              jeffrey amestoy, acknowledges the controversy
              swirling around the issue of same-sex
              marriages.

              the issue divided the court. while all five justices
agreed that gay couples
              should receive the same benefits as granted married
couples, three of the
              justices joined a concurring opinion written by justice
john dooley that
              challenged the reasoning behind amestoy's decision.

              justice denise johnson wrote a separate opinion saying the
court had not gone
              far enough. she said the court recognizes that gays are
entitled to certain
              rights and "yet declines to give them any relief other
than an exhortation to the
              legislature to deal with the problem." johnson said she
would require town
              clerks to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

              earlier this month, hawaii's supreme court slammed the
door on gay
              marriages in that state, once considered most likely to
legalize same-sex
              unions. hawaii's high court said the issue was resolved by
a 1998 amendment
              to the state constitution against gay marriages.

              vermont was the only other state whose top court was
considering the issue,
              and monday's ruling had been anxiously awaited by both
sides in the highly
              charged debate over same sex marriages.

              can't appeal to u.s. supreme court

              monday's ruling cannot be appealed to the u.s. supreme
court since the
              vermont court based its decision on the state
constitution. the vermont
              supreme court is the state's only appeals court.

              the decision places the issue before the legislature,
which will convene next
              month for its 2000 session.

              gov. howard dean has declined to state a position on same
sex marriages,
              saying that he was awaiting the decision of the court. but
the lieutenant
              governor, douglas racine, and the speaker of the vermont
house, michael
              obuchowski, have said they favor same sex marriages.

              advocates of same sex marriage had high hopes for the
vermont case
              because the state is considered a leader in laws
protecting gay rights.

              vermont has passed laws prohibiting discrimination against
gays in
              employment, housing, and public accommodations and a law
that punishes hate
              crimes against homosexuals.

                          the associated press contributed to this
report.

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>gay couples must be granted the same
>benefits and protections given married
>couples, the vermont supreme court
>ruled monday.


yay!!!  let's all bundle up and move to vermont!  i
just hope the opponents let this decision stand and
don't appeal to the us supreme court.

peace!

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> yay!!!  let's all bundle up and move to vermont!  i
> just hope the opponents let this decision stand and
> don't appeal to the us supreme court.

don't worry, joan:

monday's ruling cannot be appealed to the u.s. supreme
court since the vermont court based its decision on the state
constitution. the vermont supreme court is the state's only appeals
court.


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    hi.  i'm new to this list and this is my first posting.  i was
wondering if anyone else feels that the vermont supreme court has given
the state a perfect out?  as in hawaii, all vermont has to do is pass an
amendment to its constitution specifically banning gay marriages and
*poof* there goes what seemed to be a progressive ruling. this is my
interpretation of it since the decision was based on the state
constitution, but i would be happy if i'm wrong about how easy (well,
any amendment would have to get passed) to invalidate the court ruling.

kim

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wheeeeee!
<packing bags with heavy winter clothes... i'm goin' to vermont!>

~~tigger
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modern scribes write "in jesus christ
everyone is free"
and the door's open wide to all straight men and women
but they are not open to me.
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maybe i will have a way to get the woman of my dreams to me...lol
peace and love,
        carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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great news in the new york times:

december 20, 1999


        vermont high court backs rights for
        same-sex couples

        by the associated press

             montpelier, vt. -- gay couples must be granted the
             same benefits and protections given married couples
        of the opposite sex, the vermont supreme court ruled
        today.

        the court said the legislature will determine whether such
        benefits will come through formal marriage or a system of
        domestic partnerships.

        ''we hold that the state is constitutionally required to extend
        to same-sex couples the common benefits and protections
        that flow from marriage under vermont law,'' the justices
        said.

        ''whether this ultimately takes the form of inclusion within
        the marriage laws themselves or a parallel 'domestic
        partnership' system or some equivalent statutory alternative,
        rests with the legislature.

        ''whatever system is chosen, however, must conform with
        the constitutional imperative to afford all vermonters the
        common benefit, protection, and security of the law,'' the
        court said.

        earlier this month, hawaii's supreme court slammed the
        door on gay marriages in that state, once considered most
        likely to legalize same-sex unions. hawaii's high court said
        the issue was resolved by a 1998 amendment to the state
        constitution against gay marriages.

        vermont was the only other state whose top court was
        considering the issue, and today's ruling had been anxiously
        awaited by both sides in the highly charged debate over same
        sex marriages.

        today's ruling cannot be appealed to the u.s. supreme
        court since the vermont court based its decision on the state
        constitution. the vermont supreme court is the state's only
        appeals court.

        the decision places the issue before the legislature, which
        will convene next month for its 2000 session.

        gov. howard dean has declined to state a position on same
        sex marriages, saying that he was awaiting the decision of the
        court. but the lieutenant governor, douglas racine, and the
        speaker of the vermont house, michael obuchowski, have
        said they favor same sex marriages.

        advocates of same sex marriage had high hopes for the
        vermont case because the state is considered a leader in laws
        protecting gay rights. vermont has passed laws prohibiting
        discrimination against gays in employment, housing, and
        public accommodations and a law that punishes hate crimes
        against homosexuals.


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subject:      i'm an amendment to be, yes an amendment to be,
              and i'm hoping that they'll ratify me...

..
we've got some flag burners who've got too much freedom
we want to make it legal for policemen, to beat them...

<<monday's ruling cannot be appealed to the u.s. supreme
court since the vermont court based its decision on the state
constitution.>>

to quote the simpsons' 'amendment song' (as i just did)...

- "why don't they just make a law against (it)?"
- "becase that law would be unconstitutional"
- "but if we _change_ the constitution?"
- "then we can make all sorts of crazy laws!"

*all to schoolhouse rock-type music...*

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>from:    meredith matthews <singeralto@usa.net>
>subject: nigc: re: [ig moments]
>
>okay, as a disgruntled radio employee, i need to vent about wxpn.
>
>they, very much like the majority of public radio/npr, are big snobs. i know
>they put on some great music, and do good things for charities, and do good
>work at the spring gulch folk fest that you can catch me at every spring, they
>are absolutely snobby. public radio in general gets this superiority complex
>that i can't figure out-

*i* can figure it out... they *are* vastly superior to every
corporate-owned radio station i've ever heard!  i live in the dc area, and
have been working in wilmington, de -- getting to listen to 'xpn (and wrnr
in annapolis) almost makes all the travel worthwhile.  dc radio is
monopolized by corporations and there isn't a single station worth
listening to imo.  i never listen to the radio in dc any more, and i rely
word of mouth through publications like performing songwriter and lists
like this to introduce me to new artists.

check out the article "bad signal:  racial preferences, deregulation, and
the strange death of local radio"  by joseph gessert and shannon mattern in
the dec. 6 issue of "the new republic" for a good article on what's wrong
with radio today.  it's the story of a local family which started a station
in asheville, nc (home of a fine acoustic music scene) and subsequently
lost their license to a corporation through the vagaries of fcc
regulations.  now the station plays the same crap as all the other
for-profit radio stations.

of course, one woman's crap is another one's gold.  but everyone benefits
from diversity, and since the airwaves are a public resource, i resent the
fact that as diverse as my tastes are (check out my music index), there's
nothing for me and millions like me in this area.  this is what happens
when money influences art, and this is why public radio is important.

i've only referenced music above, but npr is to news radio what 'xpn is to
music.  it's where i can get more than the sound-bites available elsewhere.

long live public radio!  support low power radio
<http://www.lowpowerradio.org/>!

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question: if vermont goes all the way and agrees to marriages, are they
required to be recognized by every state?  here's hoping... <crosses fingers>

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> *i* can figure it out... they *are* vastly superior to
every
> corporate-owned radio station i've ever heard!

i live in colorado springs (the home of ammendment #2,
focus on the family, and the working definition of
conservative middle american suburban well-being. or
something) at any rate, public radio and the struggling
little independent weekly here are the only alternative
voices in this community. for anything. ever.

i'd go nuts without npr.

kc

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well i don't know about the rest of y'all but florida passed a law that says
they will not recognize same-sex marriages in this state.  this was back
when hawaii started working toward recognizing gay marriage.  florida as i
understand it also is the only state that disallows gay couples to adopt.
guess its that bush gene in our governor.

here's to the motherfuckinrevolution!!!!

nan

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>
> question: if vermont goes all the way and agrees to marriages, are they
> required to be recognized by every state?  here's hoping...
> <crosses fingers>
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no, the defense of marriage act handled that.  a marriage in one state does
not *have* to be recognized in any other state.
of course, methinks this might apply to hetero marriages too (?) since they
are the only kind right now.  imagine the havoc!

~~tigger
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but they are not open to me.
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>question: if vermont goes all the way and agrees to marriages, are they
>required to be recognized by every state?  here's hoping... <crosses
fingers>
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i fully expect doma to be declared unconstitutional. there's this little
thing in the constitution about full faith and credit which means a contract
in one state is equally enforceable in the other 49 states. but we needed to
get to the point of one state allowing us to get married in the first place
and in all honesty, we still don't have that. the justices simply stated
they must provide equal benefits whether it is thru the institution of
marriage or some parallel domestic partnership benefits. progress!

ryan

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>
>
> no, the defense of marriage act handled that.  a marriage in one
> state does
> not *have* to be recognized in any other state.
> of course, methinks this might apply to hetero marriages too (?)
> since they
> are the only kind right now.  imagine the havoc!
>
> ~~tigger
> high priestess of amyism
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> everyone is free"
> and the door's open wide to all straight men and women
> but they are not open to me.
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> >question: if vermont goes all the way and agrees to marriages, are they
> >required to be recognized by every state?  here's hoping... <crosses
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i am here cleaning out my room like a mad woman since i finally have the
time to do so and everyone around me is just staying outa my way and i have
run across an old scrap book i started oh about 11+ years ago i can't
remember exactly when but it's loaded with awesome pictures and articles on
*aghem* macgyver/richard dean anderson

this is from back in the day when i was obsessed with everything and knowing
everything before i hit the age where i realized it was by far more
important to have a life.  i still think the man is good looking but i
dunno, i grew up and away from all that

so if anyone is interested or knows someone who might be just e-mail me
privately and we'll work it out.

i'll trade for boots, or for the cost of shipping, or whatever
if necessary i'll chuck it

nan

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date:         mon, 20 dec 1999 19:35:45 -0500
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wow deb i agree with everything you said about public radio.  in
louisville, it is the only place where you'll ever hear ig, and you all
know david dye on world cafe (originating from xpn if i'm not mistaken)
date: wed, 22 dec 1999 23:30:01 +0000
from: "l-soft list server at netspace.org (1.8d)" <listserv@netspace.org>
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to: underdog@earthlink.net

loves the girls.  they have a one of a kind partnership here in which
one company runs all 3 public radio stations, and they are all good, but
i mainly listen to the altnernative one and the npr affiliate.  they
will literally play anything, are very open to local artists, and know a
lot about music.  and can those people beg for your money like no other!

go public radio!

bon

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sorry this is so late today guys...when you end up waking up 20 mins
before you have to be to work, things tend to get a little crazy *lol*

happy happy anyways, y'all!

december 21
elizabeth black * <kedaz@hotmail.com> *

december 22
sharney@smith.smith.edu (sue harney)

december 22 (' 70)
diane wong
arle@hotmail.com

love, peacee and happy holidays!
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>from:    rainne <wyndenrayne@spydee.net>
>subject: re: nigc: good news from vermont
>
>no, the defense of marriage act handled that.  a marriage in one state does
>not *have* to be recognized in any other state.

right, but it will provide an opportunity to test doma (and similar state
laws) in court.

>of course, methinks this might apply to hetero marriages too (?)

no.

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hey folks,

this was sent to the newsgroup...

-sherlyn

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the transcript should be available soon at
http://chat.yahoo.com/c/events/transcripts/

some highlights off the top of my head....

emily wants socks and a birdwatching kit for christmas, amy wants
books.

emily has 3 cats, amy has 7!

their consistently favorite venue?  berkeley's greek theatre.

i asked:  emily, in the song "trouble," what does "grow a peaceful
crop" refer to?

she answered:  it has to do with genetically engineered crops, things
that are unhealthy for people.  it has to do with nafta and when
nations like mexico end up having to import corn rather than subsist
on their own food production.  the inequity of that.  and how food
will once again, hopefully, be equitable and peaceful ultimately.  and
it's also a general reference to sowing the seeds and creating peace.
it's a metaphor as well.  and ultimately producing peace.  and i use
the crop, obviously, to complete the metaphor.

so now we have our answer to that question, which was a lengthy thread
here a while back.  as i remember, people interpreted "grow a peaceful
crop" to mean everything from legalizing marijuana to raising children
in a more peaceful world.

jean
san francisco bay area
jcgilbert@worldnet.att.net

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was anyone able to log this chat or is the log somewhere on a site by any
chance?  i was unable to log on to the chat because i was outside in the
cold the whole day waiting in line 10 hours for the friday night atlanta
show. =)

thanks,
sharon
(hi to everyone i met in line that are on this list!)

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some songs only hit me certain days, certain times, and other days they make
me cringe or cry.

this train revised - some days i can (and will) listen to it over and over
again, sometimes it's just too loud and brings up all those terrible images.

reunion - another song that sometimes hits me in the right spot and gets
repeated multiple times, and other days i just _can't stand_ how with the
last 'i remember you' the 'you' hangs over the edge.

i don't think i like any emily song on swamp ophelia.  /:
fare thee well, the wood song....hmm language or the kiss. bleh. sorry all
you em-heads out there.  i do like mystery, though.

anyone else notice the repeated imagery of dogs in songs written by emily?

airplane - nails on a chalk board.
i do really love the 1200 curfews version of love's recovery, though.  figure
that one out. (:
cut it out - just a little too much info. in that song...sometimes wouldn't
mind prying into amy's life (just kidding), but that song is uncomfortable.
peace tonight - the only ig song chicago radio will play...a little too pop-y
and airy for my tastes.

anyway, before i write a book,
ciao
mel

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hey folks,

heads-up to australians (just in case anyone's a bit
out of it as i seem to be) - tickets for most of the
ig shows seem to already be on sale.  canberra,
sydney, melbourne, brisbane and perth are all onsale
now - i don't know about adelaide but it wouldn't
surprise me if that were onsale too...

-sherlyn
=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-= [sydney, australia]
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  into the country of your heart..."    - karma county

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i was driving home from the madison, wi area today and heard....
dar williams' "christians and pagans" on steve dahl's afternoon talk (and
some music, evidentally) show on wckg (aka 'the package').  don't know how i
even got to that station, i usually hate non-npr talk radio...but i was
listening to him, and then they played joni mitchell's version of 'river',
and then i heard that dar song.  i wonder how in the heck that got on
corporate radio. (:
madison seems to have better radio options than the grand metropolis that is
'chicagoland', <grin>, but anything would be better than chicago radio.
in theory, i like wxrt for their support of indigo girls, ani difranco, rose
p., but since i never hear them play any of the above, it's a hard station to
just sit and listen too.
oh well.  sometimes i can listen to st. xavier college's station here on 'da
sout' side, which is interesting.
-mel, again.

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hey y'all,
just thought i'd let ya know that i managed to get a set list for both
the thursday and friday atlanta tabernacle shows.  (i'm just sneaky like
that...hehe)  i got thursday's signed by emily. =)  if anyone wants me
to email the list to ya, let me know.   i'm also going to try to scan
them, so if anyone wants an email copy of them, let me know.  i can't
believe they played midnight train to georgia friday!!!!!!!  hehe

sharon

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yippeee!! yeehaw for vermont :) :) :)
lisa

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i've been listening to this song a lot in the last couple of days and i just
was wondering, is anyone else as amazed at the beautiful harmonies in this
song as i am?  i absolutely love the way they did this song - i think it's
become my favorite - musically, it's amazing to me.  not to mention that it
speaks my life, in many ways... i'm finding myself in a position similar to
that of the narrator and the pain found in that position is unbelievable.
i am surprised that emily is able to portray this pain so accurately, almost
as though she's lived my life.  but then, that's what has always drawn me to
the girls' music, so why am i so surprised?

~~tigger
high priestess of amyism
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but they are not open to me.
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there's always at least one, and sometimes several, songs on each ig
release that just captures something in me...maybe from the past or
present...maybe joyous or sorrowful...and as much as i love amy's songs,
it's usually emily's creations that speak to me most.

cold beer and remote control was one that got me on cons...you're
right...the harmonies are stunning and the lyrics could be about me 6 years
ago. just out of college, where i was the girl who succeeded in class and
held down two jobs to pay the bills, i was (seemingly) together. the
relationship that had seen me through high school and those college years
ended and i graduated at about the same time, and things were surely
"coming apart" and the hardest period of my life was ahead of me.

back at home and working at a jc penney's (not a grocery store, but it has
to be close), i was stunned at the realization that i had no idea what i
was going to do with my life. confused, dissapointed and more than a little
scared, i did some major soul searching and eventually found my way to a
career i love and (4 years later) a marriage i cherish. i'll spare you the
heartache and despair that brought me to this wonderful point in my life,
but ig music was there all along the way and was a salvation of sorts when
nothing else seemed to make sense.

i'm sure many of you have had similiar experiences with ig. thanks for
letting me share mine...happy holidays!
michelle

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> subject: cold beer & remote control
> date: monday, december 20, 1999 6:38 pm
>
> i've been listening to this song a lot in the last couple of days and i
just
> was wondering, is anyone else as amazed at the beautiful harmonies in
this
> song as i am?  i absolutely love the way they did this song - i think
it's
> become my favorite - musically, it's amazing to me.  not to mention that
it
> speaks my life, in many ways... i'm finding myself in a position similar
to
> that of the narrator and the pain found in that position is unbelievable.
> i am surprised that emily is able to portray this pain so accurately,
almost
> as though she's lived my life.  but then, that's what has always drawn me
to
> the girls' music, so why am i so surprised?
>
> ~~tigger
> high priestess of amyism
> ********
> modern scribes write "in jesus christ
> everyone is free"
> and the door's open wide to all straight men and women
> but they are not open to me.
>   ~~emily saliers
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okay, you caught me!  i too am a nanci griffith fan!  in concert she tells a
lot of stories and is very energetic.  a concert worth seeing if you get the
chance.
tammi
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date:         mon, 20 dec 1999 23:59:04 -0800
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ok, i have to admit it.. whenever i'm playing cons and
this song comes on at first i'm thinking "oh cool
melody" and then the line hits me "cold beer and
remote control" and this glaring image pops into my
head of a seriously overweight, balding, sweating,
middle aged guy in jeans and a wife-beater, popping
open a brewsky in his olive green sofa chair and
turning on the tv to watch wwf. it just totally
interferes with my enjoyment of the song. if only they
had picked a different chorus.. :-)

jon/jack/turtle
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date:         tue, 21 dec 1999 21:44:20 +0900
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hey y'all!

i am still in australia, but i decided to resub since it is soooo easy to have net access here.  plus, the other day sherlyn told me about the australian ig dates (damn, i wish i were staying!), so i figured that i didn't want to miss any other important news.

anyway, i was thinking of "bagging" melbourne and heading up to kakadu national park, but i don't really have time.

i wish i would be here in march!!!!  i'd love to see ig down here.  you aussies are lucky!  just correct amy's pronounciation of "melbourne" in 'gone again', okay?  ;-)

:-) karen

ps- sherlyn, pet the cats for me!!!  ;-)
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date:         tue, 21 dec 1999 08:31:43 -0500
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i have always liked the harmonies to this song.  as a matter of fact
that is one of the first things that drew me to this song.  same with
peace tonight.  and when i heard these two songs done acoustic it was
even more amazing...
peace and love,
        carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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date:         tue, 21 dec 1999 10:00:17 -0800
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i could use some help/advise/referrals/similar stories etc.  i've thought
hard about posting a nigc to this list about something so personal, however,
i need this help.  any help.  here it is: my gf has lost custody of her 8 yr
old son because she is gay.  she's been holding up remarkably well until
last night.  the last few times she was due to see him, his father refused
to allow her to take him.  it's court ordered.  it's also court ordered that
she and her parents can speak with him on the phone.  this is not happening
either.  christmas vacation starts and she is supposed to have him.  her son
called crying at 6 am this morning missing her.  his father refuses to let
him go.  it's her only child and they are tight.  this is exceptionally
difficult.  i have never seen her lose her shit until this morning.

her son is in wilmington, north carolina.  the town is exceptionally
homophobic.  apologies for the broad generalization, however i have seen the
shit working against her with the people working in the courthouse and the
police department all being of this town.  i cannot watch this happen any
longer.

i am not knowledgeable about the court system, custody or divorce.  i do
know i will hunt this bullshit with stealth that will rock their world.

she cannot afford an attorney and has refused most financial assistance from
me.  perception, pride, etc.  she's finally given me permission to help her
work on this and i have committed most of today to researching this.

if any of you have any thoughts, ideas, knowledge of any organizations etc
that may be able to lend a hand, please let me know.  i would be forever
thankful.

peace to you,

parker

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subject:      yahoo chat transcript...

http://www.hob.com/live/artistinterviews/991217indigogirls/index.
shtml

and not at all how i remember it. things got awful mixed up when
it was live...

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in a message dated 12/21/99 2:59:44 am eastern standard time,
jackdavinci@yahoo.com writes:

<< nd then the line hits me "cold beer and
remote control" and this glaring image pops into my
head of a seriously overweight, balding, sweating,
middle aged guy in jeans and a wife-beater, popping
open a brewsky in his olive green sofa chair and
turning on the tv to watch wwf. it just totally
interferes with my enjoyment of the song.  >>

totally my visual!  thanks for the laugh, and the reminder!

vicki

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parker,

i am so sorry you guys are having to go through this.
that is terrible.  you should contact some of the
various gay rights organizations.  they could probably
direct you to an attorney who can sympathize with and
help your gf.  for starters, try contacting the human
rights campaign (www.hrc.org), lambda legal defense
fund (http://www.lambdalegal.org/), and national gay
and lesbian task force(http://www.ngltf.org/).

good luck and keep us posted...

peace!

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hey everyone.
i didn't find the transcript but i found something about a "video cybercast"
tonight.  it's from their hob performance in las vegas, 10/30/99.  it's at
6pm pst / 9pm est.
the site: www.hob.com/live/events/991222indigogirls/pre.shtml
i think this was on once before, right?  but i didn't see it.
enjoy it if you are able!


>from: "neil hunt :o)" <neily@netreach.net>

>http://www.hob.com/live/artistinterviews/991217indigogirls/index.
>shtml
>
>and not at all how i remember it. things got awful mixed up when
>it was live...
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sorry - it's tomorrow night!  wednesday, december 22, 1999.

hey everyone.
i didn't find the transcript but i found something about a "video cybercast"
tonight.  it's from their hob performance in las vegas, 10/30/99.  it's at
6pm pst / 9pm est.
the site: www.hob.com/live/events/991222indigogirls/pre.shtml
i think this was on once before, right?  but i didn't see it.
enjoy it if you are able!

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you can also try this url....

http://www.hob.com/live/artistinterviews/991217indigogirls/

melissa

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> http://www.hob.com/live/artistinterviews/991217indigogirls/index.
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date:         tue, 21 dec 1999 13:08:35 -0600
reply-to:     sheryl jones <sjones@library.wisc.edu>
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hi.  just wondering how many people would be willing to come to a
michelle malone house show in madison, wi sometime in the late
winter/early spring.  how much would you be willing to pay for a
ticket?  please contact me privately.  thanks.
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date:         tue, 21 dec 1999 14:28:38 -0500
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hey y'all!  this is the monthly reminder to the newbies and lovelorn that
there is a place for you to find other indigo lovin' singles on egroups.

the indigo-singles page (not associated with the list except for the fact
that there are many listees subscribed) currently has 74 members and 46
profiles to choose from.  it was created due to the desire of many indigo
girls fans to meet and possibly date each other. it is open to all listees
of different genders/identities/orientations.

to subscribe, send a message to: indigo-singles-subscribe@egroups.com.  you
can set it up to read any messages on the web or through email, but that's
not really what the site is for.

this is the site: <http://www.egroups.com/group/indigo-singles/>. when you
get there, click on 'database', then on "vital statistics", then on 'add
record'.  fill in your info, then repeat for the "favorite things" table.
then wait for like-minded singles to contact you, or contact others.  you
only have to give as much info as you want, or you can always just lurk.
the only thing you need to participate is an email address.

in addition, there is a chat room, and a 'vault' in which you can place a
photo, or your homepage, or view those of other members.

happy matchmaking,

your friendly neighborhood sap and indigo-singles moderator,

tara

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i can't download te yahoo live chat transcript because i use a webtv
unit and do not have a
compter.   so if anyone could email me the transcript as i is on the
site, i'd appreciate that.
that's the only way i can store it.

thanks

barb

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i would like to thank everyone who responded to my request for guitar help a
few weeks ago.

thank you, thank you, thank you.....hehe.

we ended up getting jenni a yamaha acoustic, which is about all we could
afford right now.  next year we'll upgrade if she's still into it.  now we
have to get me an electric....heehee.

love and peace,
dan

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oh my god.  someone has a $355 bid for early recordings.  i hope it's not
any of you.  i'm offering this right now for free, so please don't any of
you bid on this.  i'll be sending out instructions on how to get it (if you
missed it the first time) in january.

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hello.

i'm back.  great time.  incredible shows. wonderful people
(thanks mike, julie, holly, chandy, & little b - sharon).  too short.
so depressed. can't finish sentences. safe trip - cried
on the airplane.

will try to get self together and write more later.

see ya.
cathy

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hey folks,

just wondering, who all is planning to go to the nye
bash at eddie's on nye?

peace!

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thanks for all the responses, i can now  save
the transcript because it was emailed to me.
again......many thanks!

peace

barb

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hey folks,

here's the transcript of the online yahoo! chat...

-sherlyn

---begin transcript---
indigo girls: amy: hey, happy holidays from amy, welcome to
the house of blues online chat with the indigo girls.

question: what do you think of mp3s being traded for free on
the internet? do you have any objections to people being
able to listen to your music whenever they want without
paying for it?
indigo girls: amy: i don't have any objections to people
being able to listen to music without paying for it. as long
as they are willing to come see us as a live band, because
there has to be a way to make ends meet. but i like the idea
of music becoming less of a commodity in some ways.  so i'm
sort of happy about it that way.

question: i heard that amy is putting out a solo album soon.
what kinds of songs will be on it? will chiapas bound ever
appear on an album?
indigo girls: amy: hmm! i am going to put a solo record out.
i'm starting to work on it in january. i'm not sure what the
content is going to be. i am starting out with some songs
that are sort of melodic punk. and i have a lot to choose
from, so i might put chiapas bound on there, but it might
end up on an indigo girls album.

question: do you have plans to do another live album anytime
soon?
indigo girls: amy: im sure in the future we'll put one out,
it's a ways away. but we are always recording our shows
though, with that as a future goal.

question: love your music - it was an inspiration to me
during a tough time, do you find that lots of young women
use your music as a sense of strength?
indigo girls: amy: people say that to us a lot and it makes
us feel good. because we probably get the same amount of
strength out of our audience.
indigo girls: emily: hello!

question: i use to work for a record label and saw how hard
it is for bands. how have you two stayed together so long?
indigo girls: amy: well we have a really good friendship,
actually we've played together for 20 years and known each
other for longer than that. friendship and a respect for
each other. and we do different things musically, and our
musical differences keep it interesting for both of us, each
one of us adds something to the whole that the other one
doesn't. it's a really well run partnership.

question: do you guys have any plans to return to your early
accoustic sound?  (not that the newer sound isn't also
good!!)
indigo girls: lol! amy: we're going to go out in the spring
and do a whole, starting in late march, and do a bunch of
shows as an acoustic duo. that's as much as we have planned
so far.
indigo girls: emily: we've also talked about recording some
stuff stripped down. but it just depends on how we feel
about the songs at the time we get to the studio.

question: emily, in the song "trouble," what does "grow a
peaceful crop" refer to?
indigo girls: emily: it has to do with genetically
engineered crops, things that are unhealthy for people, it has
to do with nafta and when nations like mexico end up having to
import corn. rather than subsist on their own food production.
the inequity of that. and how food will once again, hopefully,
be equitable and peaceful ultimately. and it's also a general
reference to sowing the seeds and creating peace. it's a
metaphor as well. and ultimately producing peace. and i use the
crop, obviously, to complete the metaphor.

question: how did you come up with the name "come on now
social" for your cd?
indigo girls: amy: the name came from a song that i was working
on called "measure of me". and it was just a line from the song
and we liked the way it sounded. it seemed to sum up what we
were talking about on the record. a call to find your place in
the world.

question: have you given any serious thought to an official
reissue some of your pre-strange fire releases? (and if you
need a volunteer archivist etc.etc...)?
indigo girls: lol! emily: ha, ha, ha - the answer is no! a lot
of those early songs, make me cringe my writing!
indigo girls: amy: mine too, it sucks. we might end up
bootlegging them ourselves.  and let them be bootlegs and
online trading.

question: what kinds of presents are you hoping to get for the
holidays?
indigo girls: emily: socks.
indigo girls: amy: socks? that's what you want? i'll buy you
socks.
indigo girls: emily: i already asked my sister. and a bird
watching kit.
indigo girls: amy: i just want books. just books.

question: "compromise" is such a strong song. what exactly
was it written about?
indigo girls: amy: oh, boy, that's a really complicated song
for me to explain. so... i took the relationship between two
people where their sort of paths in life are not politically
opposed to each other, but the way they achieved their goals
sometimes are in conflict with each other. and i used that as
a metaphor for what i consider to be some of the bigger
issues of the world, with references to sweat shops,
patriarchy, anthropology and environmental devastation. but
in all those things, saying to the person that i'm talking
to, that i understand that the way we're going about these
things is different, but i need that person.

question: have either one of you ever consider writing a
book?
indigo girls: emily: i'm actually going to write a chapter in
a book with my dad this year. for the first time. it has
something to do with music, culture and faith. it's a broad
beginning but i'm looking forward to the process. but besides
that, i've never thought of writing a book.

question: what are your favorite songs to play in concert
now?
indigo girls: amy: go, soon be to nothing.
indigo girls: emily: ozilline, andy, and fay tucker.

question: who would be your pick for a woman president?
indigo girls: emily : winona laduke.
indigo girls: amy: i'm going to say cynthia mckinney.

question: have you ever played with any of the musicians
that inspired you?
indigo girls: emily: my god, yes! joan baez, patti smith,
a million local musicians.  neil young, there are so many.

question: hi there, i have been a huge fan for years and
years.  i met emily and leslie the first day watershed opened
in atlanta and ordered the spice cake for my family's
thanksgiving. so good.  my question is: do you find more
inspiration today from the native american influences rather
than the bluesy southern ones of your early years?
indigo girls: amy: i don't think we're influenced by native
american music. except for groups that we play with. they
don't influence us, they inspire us. and i think our
influence and inspiration from native america is more geared
towards politics.

question: how do you feel about being an inspiration for the
young gay community?
indigo girls: emily: i feel really good about that. in as
much as it's true, when you are part of a minority population
in the midst of an evolution and struggle for civil rights.
it's very important to feel a sense of comaraderie with your
other community members.  and so if we are that sense of
comaraderie to our fellow gay people, bisexual people,
transgender people, then that's great.

question: will you pursue another high school tour any time
soon?
indigo girls: we are in the first stages of planning how and
where we're going to play some time in the late winter
possibly early spring.

question: emily, is the first verse of "burn all the letters"
a reference to virginia woolf?
indigo girls: emily: yes it is.

question: what has been your consistently favorite venue?
indigo girls: emily: in the berkeley area, the greek theater.

question: what do you think about hillary's run for ny
senate??
indigo girls: amy and emily: we're all for it. but we don't
live in new york.

question: statistics say that people of our generation will
change careers on an average of 4 times before retirement
(i am on my second!). are there any other careers outside the
music industry that you look at and think, hey that would be
cool job?
indigo girls: amy: teaching for me.
indigo girls: emily: yup, teaching.

question: your music is so deep. who inspired you to start
playing music?
indigo girls: emily: probably primarily my parents. because
we grew up with music in the house all the time, both live
and recorded. and the first album i ever bought was the
jackson five and they inspired me.

question: thank you for playing "land of canaan" at the
backyard in austin.  what was the inspiration for that song?
indigo girls: amy: that was just the basic unrequited love
song. someone was cheating on me.

question: when are you coming out with a new record?
indigo girls: emily: it feels like this one just came out!
it's going to be a while, at least another year.

question: what was it like playing for jimmy carter? what do
you think of him?
indigo girls: amy: it was awesome.
indigo girls: emily: i think he's the president with the most
integrity that this country has ever had. i think he had the
most holistic vision of the world, trying to work things out
together rather than separately, the myth of the american
power, he didn't buy all that crap.  and his party was a
blast, very moving. and we got to hear the mcguire sisters
sing live.

question: emily, in the liner notes from many of the albums,
you always thank someone for taking care of your cats. i
always smile when i see this. as a fellow cat owner i know
how important it is to take care of our babies! how many cats
do you have?
indigo girls: emily: not as many as amy! i've got three.
indigo girls: amy: i have seven. i have somebody take care of
them too!

question: do you ever read the discussion board on your epic
web page?
indigo girls: no.
indigo girls: amy: we feel if we start reading those kinds of
things, we'll get more self-involved.

question: i personally have been listening to you guys for
many years and you have greatly inspired me in many ways.
what is the song that is the most emotionally difficult for
you to play live and why?
indigo girls: amy: that's a good question. hmm.
indigo girls: emily: probably philosphy of loss right now.
when we were finishing it in the studio it was a time of deep
personal sadness and it brings me back to that time when i
sing it.
indigo girls: amy: probably for me nuevas senoritas. just
because it pays tribute to some women activitists in our
lives two of which we lost this past year. ingrid
washinwatok, and marsha gomez.

question: amy, how has your spirituality grown with your music?
indigo girls: amy: i guess i've used my music sometimes to
explore my belief system.  in writing, trying to write lyrics
sort of free of any censorship. i study what i write sometimes,
even things that don't go into the songs. and it brings me
closer to what i really feel and believe sometimes.

question: what do you think of the current presidential
candidates?
indigo girls: amy: sighs. i'm a ralph nader fan. that's who i
really love, ralph nader.
indigo girls: emily: i'm still in the process of checking them
all out. i don't of course believe the policies of the
republicans, they're all anti-gay, anti-choice and anti
everything i believe in. and in the end america will elect a
candidate with a lot of money and a great image.
indigo girls: amy: so that's an inspiration to vote! no, i
think a lot of democratic candidates are actually anti-gay as
well. not really willing to take a stand. so that's why i want
to support someone like nader.

question: what has been your most memorable moment since the
inception of your group?
indigo girls: emily: impossible to name just one. honor the
earth has been really important. opening for the grateful dead
was pretty awesome. countless experiences playing live. and
we've learned from and been inspired by countless mentors
along the way.  it's been fantastic so far.
indigo girls: amy: for me one of the things i remember the best
is driving around the southeast to some gigs with joan baez in
the front seat singing gospel music to keep awake! we hope
everybody has a happy holiday. thanks for tuning in and thanks
for supporting us. we really appreciate it!
indigo girls: emily: i second everything amy said!

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yeppers the new ig site is up.
check it out
http://www.indigogirls.com/

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damn! i'll be on the road tomorrow night. is it technically possible to
"tape" this?

dottie

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