lifeblood: listlogs: 1999-12e


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date:         tue, 28 dec 1999 19:08:10 -0500
reply-to:     listserve <timlynlist@home.com>
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subject:      wedding music
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to the person who asked for suggestions on what to sing at a wedding:
ig's "love will come to you"
if you listen closely  to the lyrics its probably not really appropriate but
most people will just notice the refrain stating "where there's now one
there will be two"

i wish i could have heard it for my wedding but i was married in 1982!
i love weddings......
lynne

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date:         tue, 28 dec 1999 19:36:17 est
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subject:      re: snow - nigc
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sc.

at least it was cold...even if it never snows....

arghhhhh....

:-)  claudia

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date:         tue, 28 dec 1999 18:44:41 -0600
reply-to:     unclwil@midwest.net
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        i was wondering if anyone has a recording of the ig show on 12/1 in st.
louis, mo. i asked a while back and people have kindly offered to share
recordings of the lowell and amherst shows, but no luck finding st. louis
yet. i'm new to the group and the recording/trading thing, and would
appreciate any help.

        did anyone get any cool ig goodies for christmas? my husband and family
don't share my enthusiasm for them, so i didn't receive any from them
(although i did just buy myself 1200 curfews, finally) my 30th birthday is
in june and my husband is giving me an acoustic guitar so i can learn to
play, which has long been a dream of mine. i hope to pick up a few ig
songbooks at some point so i can enjoy playing their music myself.

thanks and happy new year!
michelle

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date:         tue, 28 dec 1999 20:01:43 est
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in a message dated 12/28/99 8:01:53 pm atlantic standard time,
listserv@netspace.org writes:

i loved when amy had long (ish), shaggy hair (s/t days). i also liked it
during the sots period. i like emily's more recent 'do:)

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date:         tue, 28 dec 1999 17:23:56 -0800
reply-to:     mememi@excite.com
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from:         julie libes <mememi@excite.com>
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i love this new promo picture (the one on the new site and on auction right
now). i think it's probably one of the best pictures of them i have seen.
anybody with me?


on tue, 28 dec 1999 18:22:53 est, shedyskin@aol.com wrote:

>  i agree amy's hair look best during the sots period. emily's hair look
pretty
>  much the same to me all the time, but i think she looks better and better
>  through the years.
>
>  also, the ig photo on the new ig website, is it just me or emily look a
>  little, for a lack of better term, stunned? like someone just point a
camera
>  at you and you go "huh?", the other promo photo, the one they both
sitting on
>  some stone bench or something, emily looks great, but amy look like a
raccoon
>  caught in a headlight? they are both beautiful people and i've seen much
>  better photos of them, why they keep picking the odd-looking one?
probably
>  it's just me, isn't it?
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julie ;-)

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date:         tue, 28 dec 1999 17:24:41 -0800
reply-to:     mememi@excite.com
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i love this new promo picture (the one on the new site and on auction right
now). i think it's probably one of the best pictures of them i have seen. i
also really like amy's hair now. anybody with me?


on tue, 28 dec 1999 18:22:53 est, shedyskin@aol.com wrote:

>  i agree amy's hair look best during the sots period. emily's hair look
pretty
>  much the same to me all the time, but i think she looks better and better
>  through the years.
>
>  also, the ig photo on the new ig website, is it just me or emily look a
>  little, for a lack of better term, stunned? like someone just point a
camera
>  at you and you go "huh?", the other promo photo, the one they both
sitting on
>  some stone bench or something, emily looks great, but amy look like a
raccoon
>  caught in a headlight? they are both beautiful people and i've seen much
>  better photos of them, why they keep picking the odd-looking one?
probably
>  it's just me, isn't it?
>
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julie ;-)

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date:         tue, 28 dec 1999 20:32:26 est
reply-to:     emilyraliers@aol.com
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in a message dated 12/28/99 12:00:06 pm pacific standard time,
hunterj1@aol.com writes:

> see a sign up in the headlights
>  and a moon up above won't be enough
you sure they sang this? doesn't make much sense. the lyrics on  the cd make
sense...set your site up in the headlight
the moon won't be enough
light the embers of another
and the night won't seem so rough
sister...

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date:         tue, 28 dec 1999 20:49:12 -0500
reply-to:     armydillo@mindspring.com
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from:         nancy lambert <armydillo@mindspring.com>
subject:      re: hair and promo shots
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ok the dumb-ass must be getting a good strong hold on me
i count 1,2,3 pics on the bio page and that nice perty big one on the main
page.  so when it says there are  "plenty of new photos in the bio section"
where are they?  am i missing something?  also where are these "raccoon"
photos y'all are talking about? is this the one that's near the bottom of
the bio page?
i do love the opening photo tho.  that is cool.
i even managed to put the image map back together so that i have the whole
thing downloaded.  (yes beccie sometimes it does help to be nearsighted)
and our ever popular evil background chick may be making a new background
with it (especially if we ask her really nice)


> -----original message-----
> from: indigo girls mailing list [mailto:indigo-girls@netspace.org]on
> behalf of shedyskin@aol.com
> sent: tuesday, december 28, 1999 6:23 pm
> to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
> subject: hair and promo shots
>
>
> i agree amy's hair look best during the sots period. emily's hair
> look pretty
> much the same to me all the time, but i think she looks better and better
> through the years.
>
> also, the ig photo on the new ig website, is it just me or emily look a
> little, for a lack of better term, stunned? like someone just
> point a camera
> at you and you go "huh?", the other promo photo, the one they
> both sitting on
> some stone bench or something, emily looks great, but amy look
> like a raccoon
> caught in a headlight? they are both beautiful people and i've seen much
> better photos of them, why they keep picking the odd-looking one? probably
> it's just me, isn't it?
>
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date:         tue, 28 dec 1999 20:56:24 -0600
reply-to:     barbara bordner <barbarafrommn@webtv.net>
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from:         barbara bordner <barbarafrommn@webtv.net>
subject:      re: curiosity killed the ig fan
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i  like amy's hair long.  i remember when they
went on letterman during so  and seeing it short for the first time,   i
really missed  her long
hair.  emily's hasn't changed that much   she
died it red ( i think she died it red didn't she?)
not that t really matters.  they  are good  musicicians and good people
no matter  how they wear their hair.  i like amy's new highlights.

peace

barb

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date:         wed, 29 dec 1999 15:46:06 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

barbara bordner asked:
>when is the ig mailing list faq (whoops!  not trying to yell) going to
>be updated?   does anyone know, i hope  whoever does it will do
>it  soon. :-)

soon, i know i keep saying that but it really will be
done soon...  i've been much busier than expected this
year but hopefully i will be able to scrape up enough
time early in the new year to update both the ig faq
and the mailing list-specific faq...

happy happy all,
sherlyn
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  into the country of your heart..."    - karma county

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date:         tue, 28 dec 1999 21:48:07 -0800
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> "will you break me" leads me to think not so much in the line of thought
as
> "rape" as someone here said, but more will you break my spirit by not
> requiting my love?  the subject here is experiencing unrequited love is
she
> not?
> so her breaking would be for that love to be unrequited
> dispelling her hopes/dreams for/of andy
> a breaking of her spirit by rejection


that's an interesting interpretation, but i think of it as something she
wants andy to do.  definitely not in the context of a rape, but not like
breaking her heart either.  looking at the lines leading up to that part in
the song, she asks things she wants from him: "andy will you toss me a
little scrap of something i can taste?", and then she talks about the burnt
pyre.  in that pile of burnt castaways (like rejections), there's still
those "tiny shoots that spring like questions, will you take me?" like a
little bit of possibility among what's dead and hopeless.  she still wonders
hopefully, like a daydream, despite her knowing that he doesn't want her.
that line "will you take me...", i'm sure is meant to be interpreted as both
"will you take me?" and "will you take me out to the fenced field....will
you break me?"  personally, i think the taming/breaking thing is more like
taming this wild desire she has for him.  i have to admit, the image of her
wanting to lose her virginity with him did come to mind with that line, but
i would rather not think of it that way, so i'm not going to.

this song really reminds me of the movie "man in the moon".  not the recent
"man on the moon", but the older movie with reese whitherspoon as a little
girl who's infatuated with the farm boy who's in love with her older sister.
the story in the song, and all the images that make me think of beautiful
scenery and a desire for summer romance are very similar to the movie.  i
can't help but wonder if emily has seen that movie.  anyone else make that
association?
i love the pretty picture this song creates.  sad, but pretty, in a very
visual way.

leslie

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date:         tue, 28 dec 1999 22:21:44 -0800
reply-to:     shannon j curnutte <shannonc@oregon.uoregon.edu>
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>===== original message from mememi@excite.com =====
>i love this new promo picture (the one on the new site and on auction right
>now). i think it's probably one of the best pictures of them i have seen.
>anybody with me?

i agree that the promo pic on the new site looks really good (though em does
look a bit stunned)... as far as the best look, i really really love the pic
of emily on the back of the liner notes for rop.

shannon

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affections and the truth of imagination"          -rilke

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date:         wed, 29 dec 1999 01:47:38 est
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mel wrote:
<< speaking of "beneath the devil moon" by michelle malone...
in my most humblest of opinions, i nominate it for album of the decade...that
is...album i bought on a whim and fell in love with and wouldn't cease
listening to it even to go to class, album we had on repeat/shuffle for a
year. >>

lol :) i kinda bought it on a whim...i had heard a boot (plus i'd heard it
live too) of medicated magdalene and decided i would buy the cd for that
song...and i fell in love with it too :) :)  michelle totally rocks!
:) lisa (who now wishes she had gone to see michelle when she was here last
year in winters despite the fact that her nutty obsessive ex-boyfriend went
to impress her...)

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date:         wed, 29 dec 1999 02:18:22 est
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in a message dated 12/28/99 10:15:33 pm pacific standard time,
shannonc@oregon.uoregon.edu writes:

> >now). i think it's probably one of the best pictures of them i have seen.
>  >anybody with me?
my favourite pic of them is the one on 1200 curfews with amy as rock goddess
and emily bending over her big ass guitar

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date:         wed, 29 dec 1999 01:34:23 -0600
reply-to:     rainne <wyndenrayne@spydee.net>
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everyone please have a happy & safe new years... i'm heading to houston
tomorrow so i'll be away until probably the 2nd or 3rd.  if you're drinking,
please don't drive and if you're driving, please don't drink... everybody be
careful and don't do anything i wouldn't do!  :)

~~tigger
high priestess of amyism
********
who is teaching kids to be soldiers
to be marked by a plain white cross?
and we kill just a little to save a lot more:
the philosophy of loss.
  ~~emily saliers

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date:         wed, 29 dec 1999 02:47:18 est
reply-to:     lisa071573@aol.com
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heehee :) well i think we all know my opinion (and carrie k's :) on amy's new
look...but i must say that one of my favorite pics of them is the cover of
back on the bus - they both look sooooo gorgeous! i love all the nis pics -
and especially the hammer and nail video - they look sooo beautiful there :)

oh and deb - thanks for pointing out that jerry marotta was barbara kessler's
producer :) i always forget that there is igc :) in fact, the first time i
saw barbara was when she opened up for the girls in 94. did i mention she's
is terrific??

:) lisa

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date:         wed, 29 dec 1999 08:22:16 -0500
reply-to:     neil <neily@netreach.net>
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well, maybe not pissed, dissapointed is probably a better word...

a very sweet person informed me that someone is auctioning one of attack of
the killer b-sides discs on yahoo.

we all know that auctioning boots is bad when people can get it free here,
and that's not the point.

i guess the point is this person (in scotsdale, az) is a listee (has
obtained it from one). and therefore should know better.

if it's you, please remove the auction and don't try again.

this is the first time, as far as i can tell, that a fan-created cdr has
been auctioned. i knew it was probably inevitable - the 'never for sale' bit
is easily removed - but i guess i didn't want to think about it. i don't
really want anyone to be put off creating discs, and i don't want people to
spoil the artwork with 'never for sale' emblazoned across the front artwork,
but if that what it takes, that's what's going to happen.

i can't watch all the auctions all the time, but i try :o)

just want to say thanks to my mystery informant, and twm for helping me take
the appropriate steps...

and if i was more awake, i'd be able to say things more better :o)

neil
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date:         wed, 29 dec 1999 09:18:30 -0500
reply-to:     "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com>
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one of neil's rarigies cdrs is on ebay.

know this right now.  if i ever catch a copy of one of my bootleg cdrs on
auction, and it goes to term and is sold, i will cease all of my cd bootleg
offerings.  i am not kidding.  so, remember your pledges, and be careful who
you lend this stuff to, and keep them in a safe place, i don't want to hear
any "but it was stolen out of my dorm room at a party" - keep it in your
sock drawer or something, but realize, that what you're holding is worth a
lot, and protect the artists from the sleazebuckets who profit on other's
hard work.

that is all...

sorry for the pissy tone, but...

well, you know...

tara

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date:         wed, 29 dec 1999 09:24:16 -0500
reply-to:     "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com>
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good grief that was fast.  at least at ebay, when you report something, they
take care of it.  geez, and this in under 5 minutes.  cool!

i'm sending y'all a copy of this, just so you can see what happened(s).

> -----original message-----
> from: ebay customer support [smtp:infringement@ebay.com]
> sent: wednesday, december 29, 1999 9:19 am
> to:   telane@trigon.com
> subject:      re: music  (kmm7515746c0km)
>
> hello,
>
> thank you for alerting us to this auction. the auction in question has
> been ended by ebay. we really appreciate the terrific help from users
> like yourself. together, we can all help keep ebay a safe and fun place
> to trade!
>
> as always, if you have a question or problem, please contact us and we
> will gladly assist you. if you would like to report a questionable item
> please visit:
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>
> thanks for using ebay!
>
>
> regards,
>
> yuri
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> original message follows:
> -------------------------
>
> this item is a bootleg of copywritten material.  the seller is not the
> artist, nor does he own the copywrite.  these were cdrs were created and
> traded for free, and this person is just trying to make money on it.  i
> know the person who created it, and it is stamped on the back with
> "never for sale".  here is the item: indigo girls cd *unreleased* live &
> b side, item #226893934
>
>
> -- taralane
>

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<<one of neil's rarigies cdrs is on ebay.>>

thankyou tara. truly, thankyou.

is this the same guy that is selling it on yahoo right
now?? from scotsdale, az??

neil said he was sure there's a listee there he's sent
stuff to, but doesn't remember who. although this dude
is also selling korn and offspring, so it's probably
not the listee themselves.

the wedgie monster would sure like to get it's hands
on this individuals underwear, i can tell you.

<<know this right now... etc.>>

damn well said.
tara, neil, janet doe and others work hard on these
discs. it taks time to put them together and
coordinate.

miss. amy r. herself has said that it's cool to trade,
but not sell, so let's not go there.

<<sorry for the pissy tone, but...>>

understandable. i know neil was pissed too, although
he's loathe to admit it...

it's cool that ebay have gotten better in responding
to auctions - yahoo seem to be a lot slower. but we
have plans afoot to thwart this dude anyway.

neil told me if nothing happened soon he was going to
auction an email report on how to get them for free.
do i hear $0.01??

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when i got married in '97, i wanted to include the girls in my wedding music
also.  the song that i thought of was power of two.  but then when i listened to
it again, the verse "now we're
talking 'bout a difficult thing and your eyes are getting wet", stuck out in my
head, so i decided
not to use it.

there doesn't seem to be an ig song out there yet, that is completely positive
about being in
love except for we are together, and i don't think that's very good to dance to.
i think it would
be nice to have a good "first dance" song by the girls.

cathy

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michelle will be performing at tower records (next to lennox mall) tonight
(wed, dec 29) at 7:00.

:o)

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        i just got this from someone....

        "i would never trade with anyone who makes a person
        write a statement that i couldn't make a digital copy
        of a cd traded me, when i *haven't even seen* a single
        cdr you have made from your own master tapes.
        that's not in the trading spirit.
        besides, stuff happens - ...sucked when i saw my recordings being
sold, but i haven't stopped trading...
        and no, i would never sell a cdr on ebay."

        i'm just wondering if anyone else feels this way.  i feel i've been
trying to do a good thing, but if it's upsetting people, the way i'm
handling the cd bootlegs, and making people sign a pledge and all, please
let me know, and i'll weigh the arguments.

        but just one point of clarification... those of you who've gotten
stuff from me know i don't trade for the cdrs i make, i just give 'em to you
for cost of artwork printing.

        tara

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ohhh... btw....

it's the tower in atlanta.... .sorry bout that... :o)

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in a message dated 12/29/99 6:49:47 am pacific standard time,
thewedgiemonster@yahoo.com writes:

> to auctions - yahoo seem to be a lot slower. but we
>  have plans afoot to thwart this dude anyway.
anything i can do to help?
v.

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neil throws in more semi-solicited loose change on a tired ol'
subject:

<<i'm just wondering if anyone else feels this way.>>

some mystery person said:
<<i would never trade with anyone who makes a person write a
statement that i couldn't make a digital copy of a cd traded me>>

which is a fair enough position. i can respect that.
although tara's not trading, she's giving up her time to burn
copies for free.

the mystery person continues:
<<when i *haven't even seen* a single cdr you have made from
your own master tapes.>>

so if you had, you would feel different??

i don't know what the mystery person defines 'master tapes' as,
but as i understand it tara was given the masters to the 9:30
club show from the taper together with a blessing to share the
music (not for money, etc. etc.)

i have these discs, and they're excellent. the artwork is far
better than i have produced. so count me as a reference for tara.

<<that's not in the trading spirit. besides, stuff happens>>

true, but again, she's not trading.
even so. there are exceptions. i have material i would only
trade under strict circumstances. in exchange for something
similarly rare and restricted.

and tara says:
<<i feel i've been trying to do a good thing, but if it's
upsetting people, the way i'm handling the cd bootlegs, and
making people sign a pledge and all, please let me know, and
i'll weigh the arguments.>>

i think tara is doing a wonderful thing. the way i see it you
can either:

a) pay $350+ for early recordings 1, 2 & 3 on ebay.
b) get them for blanks, postage and artwork money from tara in
exchange for promising not to copy them.
c) find someone else to get them from.

tara's providing the service, so she gets to set the rules.
promising not to copy them is a small price to pay to save $350.

the reason i don't insist on such promises with the discs i make
is (to quote utah phillips) "the good people don't need 'em and
the bad people don't obey 'em so what use are they anyway?"

i guess i'm just too trusting, at least tara makes people fully
aware of the fact that they shouldn't sell them.

but as the mystery person says, shit happens. i think i'm going
to set up a full ig bootleg awareness website. any legal people
who can offer free advice on this would be welcome to drop me a
line. i'll prolly write to amy too, although if she does read it
she'll think i'm crazy or something...

back to work :o)

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i'm glad to hear lots of you enjoy their new promo shot. i guess my photography background makes me very critical of every photos i come across.

d

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hey y'all,

i was just browsing ebay and i found the closed rarities auction and a new
auction for the same item that was just opened this morning.  i deleted all
my mail, so i don't have neil's addy to contact you directly, so neil, the
auction is out there again!

here's the listing:

indigo girls cd *unreleased live & b sides* (item #227351852)

peace,

pam in big d

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hey folks...

<<i was just browsing ebay and i found the closed
rarities auction and a new auction for the same item
that was just opened this morning.  i deleted all my
mail, so i don't have neil's addy to contact you
directly, so neil, the auction is out there again!>>

thankyou.

both ebay auctions look like they've been stoppen, and
it seems the yahoo one was eventually closed, although
it took awhile.

please keep an eye out. i know neil and i will. we're
worried about the fan created boots, not so much the
others.

if you know this person and how they got their disc,
please give them a stern telling off. leave the
wedgies to me.

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<<i sent a message to ebay again, and again, they took it off
right away. looks like it'll be a battle of wills as to who will
give in first... the self-appointed ig police win again!>>

heheh - you go.

you guys must be sick of me by now. but.

gonna let y'all into a secret or two. if i see a boot on ebay
that i want, i don't bid on it, i just email the seller and ask
if they'll trade. everytime i've got the cd for a trade instead
of the $50 or so...

i make sure they get an edited trade list to choose from -
common boots, none of the list-made ones. some of these are igs
ones and i'll be offering them soon hopefully.

the downside is that others can just do the same with these
dudes that are offering the fan cds. get his email and just do
the deal in private.

at the end of the day it's the buyer's responsibility to know
what they're letting themselves in for. we just do what we can
and spread the word so that people know what their options are.

and so on. that's it from me for today. honest.

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and our ever popular evil background chick may be making a new background
with it (especially if we ask her really nice)
~~!
cool! on a more, well, selfish note, does anyone have a background with _all_
of the album covers on it? or some really good scans of all the album covers?
i am getting rather tired of the background i found at tucows that stopped
with swamp ophelia... any kind people there?

also, and this is much more important, i recieved a new computer only
recently, and it is missing one very important piece that i have not yet been
able to replace- the little 'busy' pointer that animates the cover of rites of
passage. i don't know where i got it in the first place, and the original
computer is resting comfortably in retirment(and many, many pieces) could
somebody possibly donate a copy to the terminally annoyed computer geeks of
new york? or me, even...

now back to your regularly scheduled useful content,
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hey y'all,

as some of you might know, i write for the e-zine jupiter index (which, btw,
was just officially sponsored or supported or given the thumbs up by daemon.
cool, huh?) anyways, a few months ago, my editor did an interview with rose
polenzani- her first interview ever.

i then managed to see and talk to her after the ig concert in nyc in october.
the most facinating thing she had to say was that "your editor asked me some
awfully booring questions". so, after doing a little research, and flexing my
very moderate amount of influence, i got her personal email addy and sent her
some more interesting question (and my editor has not yet forgiven me, either)


anyway, i thought y'all might get a kick out of the the questions she
answered. i have long since forgitten the questions she ignored, and it's
probably better that way.

peace and a booring y2k,
meredith

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1. are you affiliated with any radical political organisations (communists,
anarchists, republicans) ?

only in my head.


4. have you ever been abducted by aliens?

i never had the guts to ask a doctor's opinion on the scoop-like scar that
might have originated in an off-planet exploratory surgery when i was a
child. so i have no definitive answer.

6. are you now, or have you ever in your life, been naked?

of course, i'm naked all the time. but you know that already.

7. have you ever thrown kumquats at your lover?

that's too intimate of a question.

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it really sucks that someone on the list would do a thing like that!!   the
people on the list are great as far as copying stuff for other people without
having to pay sleezbag bootleggers!!!

i guess people have to spread the word for the fans that don't know any
better.  some fans don't realize you can get stuff for free!!  i know i
didn't for the longest time!!  i have seen jcs on ebay selling for lots of
money and its like wow  you can get it from daemon!!!!    i think the people
buying are just don't realize they can get it by a trade or whatever.  i
still can't believe someone from this list would sell on ebay!!!  that really
sucks big time.  i will also try and email the buyers on ebay to warn them
when i see something not right!!!

peace!
sandy

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hey,

i've already thrown away that edition of the paper, but in the obituary for
curtis mayfield a couple of days ago there was some minor ig content.  (mayfield
was from chicago, but he lived in atlanta for the past 20 years.)

for some upcoming project called "atlanta 2000" [which seems to be some kind of
yearlong focus on making atlanta a focal point for ... i'm not sure what -- they
just had an all-faiths gathering at the georgia dome a couple of weeks back
where they were trying to get people to converge and make alliances across
various religious faiths], they're in the process of recording the official
theme song for the project, which is curtis mayfield's "people get ready".  the
intent is to make this recording the "official atlanta city anthem" from now on.
various luminaries in the pantheon of the atlanta music scene are supposed to
participate, including ig, elton john (a part-time atlanta resident), tlc,
monica, goodie mob(?), outkast(?), travis tritt(?), producers jermaine dupri and
dallas austin (?)and several others.  [if somebody still has the article from
the atlanta journal-constitution, perhaps they can post a transcript of it with
an accurate list of the artists involved.]  don't know when it's slated to be
completed and released.

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from:         melissa gordon <melissa@ce1.com>
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last birthday update:

ok, here's the deal...went to the thomas & mack arena last night for some
unlv basketball.

the lady rebs were playing at 4:30pm; runnin rebs playing at 7:30pm;

i got there around 6pm (halftime of the lady rebs game) and they werent
charging for parking yet (zing-free!)

i walked in a back way and got into the game for free (zing)

bought some overpriced beer and popcorn & watched the game (unlv won).

hung around for my friends to watch the men (play eastern kentucky) and they
didn't charge me as i was sitting in the student section (38 years old---in
the student section ---- zing)

"invested" in few more beers while the runin rebs barely defeated the
eastern kentucky colonels.

so, 2 basketball games, 3 beers & a large popcorn for less than $20 ----
ka-ching!

other side notes:   there was this great guy sitting behind us providing
quite creative commentary......

favorites (to the eastern kentucky personnel):
** "you're the 6th best team in kentucky" and
** "the lady vols could beat you".

i think he had a few more beers than yours truly.

thanks for everyone's emails etc!

melissa

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> awwe.. thanks. i'm glad you had a great birthday and congrats on the
jersey!
> take care. have a happy new years!
>
> katy
>
> oh.. and i'd definately go for the beer with the $55.
>
>
>
> "i want somebody who can hold my interest, hold it and never let it fall.
> somebody who can flatten me with a kiss that hits like a fist, or a
sentence
> that stops me like a brick wall." -=-ani difranco-=-
>

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>from: mgsb@aol.com
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>date: wed, 29 dec 1999 16:36:10 est
>
>it really sucks that someone on the list would do a thing like that!!   the
>people on the list are great as far as copying stuff for other people
>without
>having to pay sleezbag bootleggers!!!

i'm new to the list, and i've been hearing a lot about trading for bootlegs.
is anybody still interested in this? what could i trade?
-nina
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i've seen catie's other cds at borders


on mon, 27 dec 1999, irina wrote:

> hey deb, thanks for the info. excellent web site? i still have one more
> question. i can't seem to find any of catie curtis's cds anywhere,
> except for crash course. any suggestions on where i could buy them?
> thanks, irina
>
> "alarming desperation leads me to believe
>            with all my shields and protection
>  it's only me i deceive"     * mle *
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a site like this would be really awesome.  we all love tara for making us
cdr compies of these rare boots (though i don't quite understand the master
tapes comment.  anyone want to explain this to me).

re: writing amy.  i wrote daemon asking them to tell me what they thought
about changing cds of some of their artists into mp3s and sharing them
online.  i asked them is they disapproved, approved of sharing one or two
songs or all the songs.  they never wrote back.  kinda disappointing. since
they didn't write back, and i am sensitive of possibly taking the money away
from these artists, i'll unshare my daemon things off napster. (not that
anyone ever downloads except at my urging).

julie :)


on wed, 29 dec 1999 12:34:39 +0000, neily@netreach.net wrote:

>  but as the mystery person says, shit happens. i think i'm going
>  to set up a full ig bootleg awareness website. any legal people
>  who can offer free advice on this would be welcome to drop me a
>  line. i'll prolly write to amy too, although if she does read it
>  she'll think i'm crazy or something...
>
>  back to work :o)
>

julie ;-)

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i for one love amy with short spiky hair...but then again i love most girls
with spiky hair:)...she looks good:) and emily..as long as she has red(dish)
hair...anything's good:) my fave pic of emily is the one on the back of the
rop jacket, or the one on  1200c over her guitar, or the one in the nis cd
jacket..or..the list goes on...my fave amy ones...hmmm...way too many to list
them all:)
pax, celeste:)

ps. i was in a shoe store and i heard power of two:)) i made me cousin wait
for the whole song before we left:)

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return-path: sass60876@aol.com
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date: wed, 29 dec 1999 20:54:43 est
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i'm gonna have to agree with the majority when i say amy's hair looked the
best during the sots period it was awesome! and if you all will go to my web
page you'll see my fav em pic she looks so good in it! clikc here-------> <a
href="http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/indie4me/">inside the mind of an indie
junkie</a> or go to www.angelfire.com/ok2/indie4me then click on the music
page with the little cd emblem and look at the bottom then click on the ig
page there you will find an awesome shot of em! take it easy y'all!
----------mandy :)

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not sure if you know this or not...
but if you go to auctionwatch.com you can search "over 300 auction sites"
with one click of a mouse button.
also--if you are strictly looking for "indigo girls", you might just search
for indigo ...saw a guy list something using "indigo goils".

-mel

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so...more nigc from the nigc queen .... (:

i've got my xmas cash in hand...looking at the mr lady records website...and
about to order one of each item.  (:
anyone have any experience ordering for them?

kaia wilson...mmm...
mel

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haven't seen anyone report this yet but just wanted to let everyone know
that last week i finally received my "shaming of the sun" song book.
took them awhile to get it out but it appears to have been worth the
wait. is written out for both piano and has all the chords and strumming
patterns. also great pictures. so anyone who has been checking out their
local music stores may want to check again or you may want to re-order
it since i know i had mine on order for the past 11 months.

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speaking of the whole bootleg thing....tara - i think what you do is great
and i haven't ordered from you cause i am too lazy :p but i was just
wondering how you felt about people making tape copies of the cd's you
do...just curious since most people want the boots for themselves but also
want to trade, not sell. i am a tape trader since i don't have a burner...

just wonderin'!
:) lisa

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    i forgot who originally posted the request for songs to sing at weddings,
but these are a couple i think would be great.

    -"truly, madly, deeply"  by savage garden (always think of a wedding
couple when i hear this song...beautiful!)
    -"i knew i loved you"  by savage garden  (another good one)
      -"longer"  by dan fogelberg (my friend's sister & brother played the
guitar and sang this her wedding)

let me know if you need the lyrics to any of these songs and i'll gladly send
em to you.
jennifer

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date:         thu, 30 dec 1999 08:38:03 -0500
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        >>i was just wondering how you felt about people making tape copies
of the cd's you do...just curious since most people want the boots for
themselves but also want to trade, not sell. i am a tape trader since i
don't have a burner...<<

        i have always said that i don't mind anyone making analog (tape)
copies of the bootleg cdrs that i send out.  record away!
        -t.

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intimate strangers,

really random & really nigc:

i live in a house in the buckhead area w/ a bunch of other guys & we're
having a new year's party b/c we're not exactly the best planners (just
figured this out on monday actually!).  so basically, if you're in the
atlanta area and sort-of know who i am, and you have no plans for new years,
then you're welcome to stop by.  e-mail me until 5pm today (i'm off to see
widespread panic!) and i'll send you back directions.

(i told you this was a little random!)
happy new year's everybody!!!

-mike
a+e=ig

[and further nigc: a widespread panic new years]

> > > t'was the night before new years
> > > when down in atlanta
> > > thousands of freaks
> > > had forgotten 'bout santa
> > >
> > > the phillips arena
> > > was getting all packed
> > > in hopes that widespread panic
> > > would soon start their act
> > >
> > > the kids were all nestled
> > > snug in their seats
> > > their heads filled with lyrics
> > > and other fine treats
> > >
> > > fans in their pjs
> > > and i with my glass
> > > had just settled down
> > > the dirty dozen kicked ass
> > >
> > > when up on the stage
> > > arose such a thunder
> > > i jumped to my feet
> > > is it pigeons i wonder
> > >
> > > i hollered a yahoo
> > > and what did appear
> > > but six short men
> > > and all of their gear
> > >
> > > my air lasso was ready
> > > and the place sure got loud
> > > then came a holler
> > > from the back of the crowd
> > >
> > > go jojo, go sunny
> > > hey jb and nance
> > > c'mon schools and houser
> > > make us all dance
> > >
> > > i heard one of them say
> > > as he stood in the light
> > > "howdy ya freaks!"
> > > gonna be a good night

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hey gang - just want to wish everyone a happy and safe new year.  i'm
heading to myrtle beach. my email will be inactive through jan 5, so, i'll
miss y'all.  if you've sent bootleg requests, be patient, i expect to have
this batch done by jan 7.  if you still haven't heard from me about the
early recordings and you're in a er group, you'll hear from me in a couple
weeks - i'll make this offer again in a few weeks for any who missed it the
first go-round, so no need to contact me, you'll all have an opportunity,
just be patient.

thanks to everyone who participated in the indigo christmas card list - that
was fun.

have a fantastic new year, and i'll catch up with y'all in january.

lots of indigo love,
tara

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in a message dated 12/28/99 10:15:33 pm pacific standard time,
shannonc@oregon.uoregon.edu writes:

> >now). i think it's probably one of the best pictures of them i have
seen.
>  >anybody with me?
my favourite pic of them is the one on 1200 curfews with amy as rock goddess
and emily bending over her big ass guitar

-hehe actually when my first 12:00 curfews got worn out i took those pics of
a&e and made them into really cool magnets....along with ani, dar, a few
other notable folkers.....
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heather your ard came back to me saying wrong address i need your =
correct address to send it again.  missy

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actually tara,neil, and anyone else you have every right to be upset. i know
being an artist who occasionally gives my artwork as gifts that i get upset
when it gets sold ..... some things are just better than money and no one
else can tell you to "deal" if you spent the time making these and giving
them out...i think that its unfortunate that some people are so obtuse that
they dont get that....
well anyway you arent overreacting ....
-jess

ps- could i get any info on the cdrs you made either of yuo...it would be
much appreciated.....


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date: wed, 29 dec 1999 11:00:10 -0500

         i just got this from someone....

         "i would never trade with anyone who makes a person
         write a statement that i couldn't make a digital copy
         of a cd traded me, when i *haven't even seen* a single
         cdr you have made from your own master tapes.
         that's not in the trading spirit.
         besides, stuff happens - ...sucked when i saw my recordings being
sold, but i haven't stopped trading...
         and no, i would never sell a cdr on ebay."

         i'm just wondering if anyone else feels this way.  i feel i've been
trying to do a good thing, but if it's upsetting people, the way i'm
handling the cd bootlegs, and making people sign a pledge and all, please
let me know, and i'll weigh the arguments.

         but just one point of clarification... those of you who've gotten
stuff from me know i don't trade for the cdrs i make, i just give 'em to you
for cost of artwork printing.

         tara

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www.wxpn.org is playing the girls now online...

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date:         thu, 30 dec 1999 15:22:53 est
reply-to:     kisha1976@aol.com
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in a message dated 12/30/99 1:42:56 pm atlantic standard time,
listserv@netspace.org writes:

i've been ordering from mr. lady for over a year. they're pretty quick (about
2 weeks) sending out stuff, and if you're lucky, you might get a little thank
you note from kaia or her girlfriend tammy rae:)
xo
kisha

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date:         thu, 30 dec 1999 15:29:18 -0500
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hi:

just wanted to wish everyone a happy, happy new year.  today, for some reason
isn't a very good day for me, hopefully new years eve will be better. i'm
feeling a little
under the weather and i'm feeling a little stupid about something i did last
week (which,
of course is ig related).

i can't talk to anyone about it and i can't post it here, but if anyone wants to
correspond
to me and help me shake these blues, that would be great.

you can e-mail me at woodlady14@hotmail.com.  again, have a safe and happy
millenium
celebration.

cathy

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reply-to:     bonnie lacey <blacey@aye.net>
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hey y'all,

just out of curiosity, how many of you did participate in the card
exchange?  did anyone head that project up and can give me a headcount?
if not, don't everybody post in to say you participated.  sounded like a
fun thing!

bonnie

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the fact that the giant record labels excert tremendous influence over what
gets airplay, and own some of the radio broadcasting channels don't help
some of our favorite artists (like michelle, rose, and often even the girls)
any.  support low power fm radio! (www.lowpowerradio.org)

that just kinda slipped out. have to spread my propaganda out though.
mother russia taught me well. ;-)
julie ;-)


on wed, 8 dec 1999 14:34:52 -0800, april haitsuka wrote:
>
>  there's also a regional bias against a lot of rock acts from the south --
>  indigo girls included. there's so much flavor and richness in the sound
and
>  an earnest feeling about it. yet the radio stations continue to push for
a
>  more generic sound.
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been away for a long while and its good to be back in the group. just wanted
to make sure this thing works.

hope everyone has a happy new year!

ninja dave.
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to everyone on the list.  i love you all.

jude :)

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and a happy new years to you all as well-  a public thank-you to one of the
most generous ladies i've never met... jude!  thanks to everyone who i've
tape traded with and those yet to come... sometimes you can really see the
beautiful community we have on this list (-:
peace and be safe :)
trooper

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hey there everyone,

best wishes to everyone on the ig list,   hope 2000  brings all  you
hope for,  and the same  to
the girls and their loved ones wherever they are.     :-)

peace,

barb

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does anyone know of any group or organization that i and my friends could get
in touch with to try to help do something about the barbaric practice of
female circumcision? we are talking about it on another list and it is
horrifying...
--vesper

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  hello everyone!!  first of all  happy new year!
now onto the important matter at hand!!  the shaming of the sun
songbook!!!  woohooo!!!!!  omg!!! can we say amazing pics of amy amy
amy!!!!!!! arrgghhhhh!!!!
lmao, ok i'm ok really!!! but guess what?!  the pic on the page for  get
out the map was taken about 15 minutes away from where i live...  that
was the day i got to see the girls 2nd row center, and i tallked to
sulli and sara lee, and i got an autographed poster from amy, and i got
to wave to emily at a stoplight...(sorry, just rmembering all the great
times from the evening....)  but i had to share this with people who
would understand!!!! oh and how about like 42 friggin guitar chords for
caramia?!  oh my god!!!! my fingers would fall off....lmao
well i'm gonna go.... can't wait to get my copy of the songbook..it's on
order, i was looking at my best friends today...  well gotta run...
peace and love,
          carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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i need help, i want to get my webtv addy off this list and put my
hotmail one on?!  how do i do this?  i want to do this by morning so
that i can have it done before i go out of town...
peace and love,
       carrie

~~~~~~~~~~amy, amy, amy~~~~~~~~~~~

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happy new year to all.....

heading out of town...thanking god that i don't have to work new year's ( i
work in tv news....mass chaos...world ending...gotta cover it...and, promote
our coverage--that would be my job, ack...)....running from all proof of
peformance spots, "wis was there as the world blew up...and, we covered it
all."

la, la, la....

anyhow...everyone be safe, be happy, and may your electricity stay on (as i
just bought a bunch of frozen food like an idiot) and your toilets still
flush (as our state paper informs us ours will)...and, may you all enjoy the
dawn of the next century.

much love and laughter...and, indigo light...

claudia

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subject:      happy new year all!

hi, everyone,
        hope you all have a terrific and a safe new year. i'm signing off for the
weekend. the bosses want the computers all shut down to be y2k compliant,
and also i won't be here till monday.
        and don't worry so much about y2k; it probably will be some idiot dui
knocking out your power.
see you later,
deb

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on this the 0ed anniversary of my 29th birthday (nan, it's your turn to
giggle here)  .....i make a birthday wish for all of you.  may peace,
serenity, happiness and love find all of you my intimate strangers in the
new year and millenium that dawns before us. may this year find us all
fulfilling our dreams and destinies, and learning all of the lessons that
life has to teach us.  you all have been my confidants, my therapists, my
editors, my intimate strangers, and even though i have had a hell of a hard
time this year, this list has been a big part of what has kept me
together....and i just want to say thank you and wish you all the best.
happy new years darlins, and as soon as i get settled i will be back on the
list in a more active state.  this past month i have been dealing with
moving and my uncle dying, so my life for a bit has been put on hold until
things get straightened out. but it is clearing up now i have gone back to
working 2 jobs, and even though my time is nill, i am happier, and i got to
see the girls in louisville (my b-day present from my new roomies...ooooh
4th row amy's side the perfect gift) and as usual i am rambling, so i will
go, lots of love to you all and bright horizons for the new year ahead.

beccie lyon

"and i wish her insight to battle love's blindness
strength from the milk of human kindness
a safe place for all the pieces that scattered
learn to pretend there's more than love that matters

emily.....love will come to you...

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if you get a reply for this, please also drop me an email.,  i would love to
get involved in working on this issue in any way.

julie


on thu, 30 dec 1999 22:36:26 est, emilyraliers@aol.com wrote:

>  does anyone know of any group or organization that i and my friends could
get
>  in touch with to try to help do something about the barbaric practice of
>  female circumcision? we are talking about it on another list and it is
>  horrifying...
>  --vesper
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julie ;-)

aol instant messenger = <julielibes>

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hi everyone.

i would not be posting this if i did not feel this truly important. i just
finished a book called "what the bible really says about homosexuality" by
daniel helminiak.  written by a catholic priest, it has the radical
perspective that homosexuality is not a sin according to the bible. it uses
the bible itself and the historical context of the time the bible was
written to (very convincingly) prove its point. it's cheap, it's only 100
pages, it's written in simple language while producing and impressive amount
of research and useful examples to drive its point home.  having read it, i
feel as if i have become a bible scholar on homosexuality and can easily
contest any "but doesn't the bible/ torah say..." questions. i know like i'm
sounding a lot like the company has paid me to sell this book but they
really have not. the fact that i am about to buy all these extra copies
(with money i don't have) to lend out and give out to everyone i think needs
to read it is proof enough. i really think that everyone would benefit from
reading this, so check it out.  (it's some $8 on amazon.com, but i urge you
to support a local independent bookstore).

i hope everyone has a happy and safe new year.
julie ;-)

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another great book is peter j. gomes' "the good book."  this books looks at
how the bible has been used to alienate gay people, women, minorities, jews,
etc.  it offers rebuttals to all this "well, the bible says homosexuality is
a sin" crap.  the book came out a few years ago and is now available in
paperback.  i would highly recommend reading this book too.  peter gomes is
the pastor of the church at harvard university and is considered one of the
top preachers in the nation.  he also came out as gay a few years ago!

peace and happy new year to all!!!

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hi all....

i'm happy to report that katie miller received recognition as outstanding
acoustic performer in this year's artvoice music awards, held wednesday
evening dec 29 at buffalo's tralfamadore cafe.  katie, sporting her leather
tuscadero look, with kevin roth on drums, and the hawaiian-shirted leah
zicari on bass, performed a lighthearted cover of jimmy buffett's
margaritaville, and also grass angels, the opening track from strongest girl
in the world.

pamela ryder and i teamed up for a soulful set which included a
much-revamped cover of john lennon's ticket to ride, and a funky version of
the blues chestnut, got my mojo working.  the enthusiastic crowd demanded an
encore, and we responded with another lennon cover, you've got to hide your
love away.  i sang the opening verse, pamela soared during the second verse,
and we harmonized the third verse and the choruses.  it felt great for both
of us to be so well-received by an audience of our peers.

on a sad note, i have to report the passing of katie's aunt steff, early
tuesday morning after a long illness.  my deepest sympathies to katie and
family...(condolences may be sent to katie at nebulousrecords@aol.com),,,

this past week i have been in the process of moving all of my websites,
including the one i created for katie, to freeservers.  i have also
made a number of changes to many of the pages.  the angelfire sites will
remain online for an indefinite period, but all of the links now point to
the new sites.  the addresses are in the signature file below.

best wishes to all for a healthy, happy and safe (arbitrarily man-made) new
year/century/millennium....

and may we all join together jan 1 to sing the opening line to bruce
cockburn's wondering where the lions are....

"sun's up, uh huh, looks ok, the world survives into another day...."

tim

for further information and musical insights, please visit my web pages...

the havana moon web page:       http://www.havanamoon.8m.com
the missing lynx artist pages:  http://www.havanamoon.8m.com/missinglynx/
the pamela ryder web page:      http://www.soulryder.8m.com
my katie miller web page:      http://www.havanamoon.8m.com/katie/
katie's official web page:     http://www.katiemiller.com

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you, too?  thought i was the only one.'"  c.s. lewis

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hey!  i just got a guitar for christmas, i am so excited.  i have never
played before, so any suggestions that you seasoned players can pass on about
technique, tricks, etc., we'd really appreciate.
hey, maybe we should set up a peer counsleing list for new guitar players!
;-)
thanks, and happy new year to all!
mary

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im kinda new to this list so im not sure if this is relivant material or not
but it put me on cloud 9!
i was out last night at this grungy kinda bar in seattle and all of a sudden
i heard this song i recognized... and then i heard amy's voice:) and then..
wow! i realized they were playing the indigo's cortez the killer with mathew
sweet! what a treat! the dj guy there is a major indigo fan and then later he
played go! when i realized what was going on i grabbed my freind by the
throught and started screaming! im still on a high from it!!:)

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howdy howdy! i just wanna wish all of you from the bottom of my hick heart a
very wild, awesome, sinful, naughty and nasty new years!! lol! if y'all can
clue me in on any awesome party's goin on tonight i'd be more than thankful
to be there! :) but when your drinkin your gin and tonica's and smokin your
marjijuanica's (or however you spell it...i fergot....maybe because i'm under
the influence as we speak lol!) just think of a poor little hick girl stuck
out in oklahoma with her thumb up her butt cuz there's nuthin to do! lol! but
anyways y'all have fun be safe and fill me in on all the dirty details of
your parties after it all goes down lol! take care!

mandy :)

p.s and for all the anti-weed people out there i was only jokin so don't be
quick to flame! :)

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subject:      re: nigc- another book recommendation
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thanks for the recommendation.  i am reading another interesting one,
written by a gay christian man, "stealing jesus: how fundamentalism betrays
christianity" by bruce bawer.  it's a bit more contraversial because it
basically attacks the fundamentalist sects of christian denominations (by
showing their teachings and the teachings of jesus to be polar opposites).
this book is good for anyone who finds themselves in religious arguments. it
gives a lot of useful info (like historical background to counter the
statement that this country was founded based on christian ethics and the
founding fathers were christians as the conservatives of present day are
very fond of saying).  i would love to continue this discussion further with
anyone and would be glad to take it off the list.  email me privately if you
want more recommendation or have some.

julie :)


on fri, 31 dec 1999 07:53:59 est, joanm12345@aol.com wrote:

>  another great book is peter j. gomes' "the good book."  this books looks
at
>  how the bible has been used to alienate gay people, women, minorities,
jews,
>  etc.  it offers rebuttals to all this "well, the bible says homosexuality
is
>  a sin" crap.
>

julie ;-)

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