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ig-news-digest      thursday, september 30 1999      volume 02 : number 166


today's subjects:
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  [ig-news] cons release in nz  [emiray saliamy <ig_boogy_babe@chickmail.com]
  [ig-news] (fwd) re: chiapas bound         [sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>]
  [ig-news] (fwd) indigo girls-band of the week+contest  [sherlyn koo <sherl]
  [ig-news] ozilline (beginning with amy and her grandma)  [indigo3000@aol.c]
  [ig-news] ig promo flat        ["sabrina d. parker" <parkers@civerolo.com>]
  [ig-news] cons review                     [ron mcbay <usul@mindspring.com>]
  [ig-news] cons -- my review  [i never was the fantasy of what you wanted m]
  [ig-news] ig stickers for sale        ["lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com>]
  [ig-news] san diego             [michael cunningham <mcunningham@pbp1.com>]
  [ig-news] philly & nyc ig tix 4 sale      [jami klein <jamik@adelphia.net>]
  [ig-news] birmingham mini-listmeet  [michael cunningham <mcunningham@pbp1.]


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date: wed, 29 sep 1999 16:46:08 +1200
from: emiray saliamy <ig_boogy_babe@chickmail.com>
subject: [ig-news] cons release in nz


[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at netspace.org.]


looks like it's the same date as in oz-land... october 4th general
release... but probably instore on tuesday the 5th... ah well only a week
behind... *twiddle*

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date: wed, 29 sep 1999 18:31:47 +1000
from: sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject: [ig-news] (fwd) re: chiapas bound


hey folks,


another interesting tidbit from the newsgroup...


- -sherlyn


- ---begin forwarded message---
>from: lisalisaa@aol.com123 (lisalisaa)
>date: 28 sep 1999 19:17:15 gmt
>
><< where the hell is
>chiapus bound? >>
>
>
>when i interviewed amy for sonicnet about a year and a half ago i asked her
>about chiapas bound. she said "i dont know that i'll ever release that."
>
>i asked her why, but she didnt answer.
>
>
>be well,
>lisa
>to send email, remove 123 from my address.
>
>"please explain to me the scientific nature of 'the whammy'" - scully
>
>"the daily news asks her for the dope.
>she says, 'man, the dope's that there's still hope.'"- springsteen
>


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date: wed, 29 sep 1999 18:30:35 +1000
from: sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject: [ig-news] (fwd) indigo girls-band of the week+contest


hey folks,


forwarded from the newsgroup...


- -sherlyn


- ---begin forwarded message---
>from: promogrrl@aol.com (promogrrl)
>newsgroups: alt.music.indigo-girls
>subject: indigo girls-band of the week+contest
>date: 29 sep 1999 04:47:59 gmt
>
>hello!
>
>i was happy to see indigo girls have made it to band of the week at ultimate
>band list(www.ubl.com) you can download their songs "peace tonight", "gone
>again", and "we are together" on real audio and enter to win a signed fender
>strat!
>http://ubl.com/fp.asp?layout=main_band_page
>
>also look out for a ticket giveaway at artistdirect for the indigo girls
>-coming soon
>

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date: tue, 28 sep 1999 16:39:21 edt
from: indigo3000@aol.com
subject: [ig-news] ozilline (beginning with amy and her grandma)


[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at netspace.org.]


for those looking for the words to the beginning of ozilline:


- ---------------
grandma o.  "...he did, he observed saturday as the sabbath"


amy: "what...what kind of faith does that make him?"


grandma:  "uhh, he didn't have one"


amy:  "oh, ok"


grandma: "he didn't believe in any one thing, he would go out on the street
and all the kids would play the... with a drum like thing, some kind of an
instrument, yeah, and mama played the organ.  she had a ___ organ and she
played that and she got a real big kick out of it."
- -----------------------
that's all i could gather.  i couldn't hear through the bass....even with
turning the big speakers off and trying to listen through the center speaker
only...hmm...if anyone can hear it please let us know.


thanks,
amy

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date: tue, 28 sep 1999 09:23:20 -0600
from: "sabrina d. parker" <parkers@civerolo.com>
subject: [ig-news] ig promo flat


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i have been lucky enough to get my hands on some promo flats for the cons
release.  they are nothing spectacular - 12"x12".  the photo on front is the
girl with the stick and knife - indigo girls - come on now social.  the back
is nice.  just "indigo girls" and a nice background.  i'd like to trade.


and (this is going to sound totally off the wall) i'm looking for quarters!
i'm trying to collect the new "state" quarters from each mint.  and since i
live in albuquerque, i have more than my share of denver minted quarters.
anyone that can get me a set of the state quarters from either philadelphia
or san francisco can have a promo flat.  i think there are four right now -
delaware, new jersey, philadelphia and georgia (sort of appropriate, huh?).


e-mail me privately if your interested.

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date: tue, 28 sep 1999 17:42:00 -0400
from: ron mcbay <usul@mindspring.com>
subject: [ig-news] cons review


[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at netspace.org.  there are a *lot* of
listee reviews of the album floating around on that list at the
moment, as you might imagine, but i'm probably not going to
forward too many...]

these are still early impressions, mind you, but here goes:


emily wasn't kidding when she said this album was basically two solo efforts
with each one singing backing vocals on the other's tracks.  there's
practically
nothing that qualifies as pure "indigo girls" collaborative sound as far as i
can hear.  that's too bad, and quite a loss.  in fact, some of these songs
even
sound better as the more pure solo efforts that they still are on that "to be
expected '99" boot.


go
again, thanks to the "to be expected '99" boot, i was reminded how much
better i
liked this song when it was "problem child".  i tend not to like songs that
try
too hard to be anthems.  still, there's things to like here: the "reverse"
guitar underneath the verses and i do like the addition of the "did they tell
you it was set in stone ..." bridge.


soon be to nothing
here's a song that loses something in this slick studio production.  this song
does not need a drum underneath keeping a toe-tapping beat going.  it
should be
quiet and proceed at its own pace.  it hasn't been "indigo"-ized.  it's still
essentially in its original form as an emily solo song.  so why not just leave
it purely as emily all by herself?  the backing vocals are unnecessary.  a
personal statement like this doesn't need backing voices.  a pet peeve: too
many
times in this song, she takes breaths right in the middle of words.  you're
not
supposed to breathe until the end of a clause, let alone the end of a word,
but
"un ... raveling" -- yikes!


gone again
don't much like the song.  the arrangement doesn't necessarily add or detract
from that initial impression.  it's ok.  it actually goes down a bit peppier
live than it does here.  (in fact, a lot of these tracks seem a bit sedate
after
having heard them with their live energy first, but i guess that's to be
expected.)


trouble
i have absolutely no idea why this track didn't jump out to them as the
obvious
first single, especially if the "it's emily's turn" rule is in effect.
this is
_way_ the [heck] better than "peace tonight".  energetic, electric and
confident.  it's great!  "get to the point of it!!!"  love it!  this actually
could have been a radio hit for them, i think.  "peace tonight" ain't going
nowhere on the charts.  think the record company shied away from this
because of
the overt gay references in the lyric?  if so, it's too bad 'cause they're
doing
ig and their public a disservice.  this track's a standout.


sister
it's been slowed down a bit too much, here, i think.  still, it's hard to
do too
much damage to this one.  love the banjo accompaniment and emily's ethereal
backing vocal here.  amy doesn't do the "heeeeyyyy" moan right after "you come
undone" the same she does live, though.  it's not as good here.  what the
[heck]
is emily saying underneath the last verse?


"i wish i was a (?)walrus(?)
a baby at my breast"
(?)...(?)"


this song's too strong for any arrangement to mess it up.  it's great anyway
they do it.  love the howling dogs at the end.


peace tonight
kind of slow to be the first single.  very ordinary lyrics.  bland.  very
vh1-ish.  yikes!  here's an example of where it seems like emily is being
influenced (to her detriment) by solo singers like vonda shepherd.  they could
very easily have "indigo"-ized this track in the same vein as "reunion",
but it
doesn't have a duet feel at all.  the horns don't particularly do anything for
me one way or the other.  i can't fathom how anybody thought this was suitable
to be released as a single.  there's nothing special about this at all.


ozilline
love the song.  this arrangement is pretty good, too.  glad to see amy's not
completely taken over by her penchant to be a hard-rocker.  love the spare
mandolin and banjo underneath "i had to put the dog down".  what's the backing
vocal that emily is singing?


we are together
they dressed it up in a nice arrangment, but there's not much of a song here.
eminently skippable track.


cold beer and remote control
i still cannot figure out whether emily is sympathizing with the working slob
plight she's describing or whether she actually has disdain for the lost
ambition.  musically, i like the song and the arrangement as well.  i just
can't
figure out what her take is.  here's a song begging for a video to explain the
tone.


compromise
i fear this song represents the future direction amy is headed in,
especially on
her solo "punk rock" album.  it's not that it's bad.  i like this track.  it's
just that as a pure hard rocker, amy's only mediocre.  her greatness has
more to
do with the range of styles she can pull off, her subject matter in her
lyrics,
and the passion she puts into even the quietest ballads.  as long as
they're not
all like this, i can take a little bit of this new direction.  really like the
chorus.


andy
nice enough but, again, it's basically an emily solo song with amy singing
backup.  ho hum.  the arrangement and their breathy vocals kind of put me to
sleep, though.


faye tucker
is there a reason (related to faye tucker) for this track to have the celtic
arrangement, or is it just due to the influence of sinead o'connor's band
playing backup?  it's a nice sound, and actually more reigned-in than i was
expecting after having heard it live so much already.  the outro with natacha
atlas is a nice touch.


- --


bonus tracks
here's a real peeve: they don't have separate track numbers, so you have to
sit
through "faye tucker" to get to them from your (or mine, at least) cd player.
(of course, once i copy this to cassette so i can listen to it in my car,
where
i do most of my music listening anyway, i can fast-forward to whatever track i
want.)


sister (reprise)
i like the rain shower sounds and that percussion reminds me of their
underheard
track, "letter to eve" (off of the pete seeger tribute album, where have
all the
flowers gone).  don't know why she just didn't do a complete rendition of the
song with this different arrangement, though.  this suggestion only teases you
as to what might have been.


philosophy of loss
this track sounds decidedly more clear than the rest of them, for some reason.
emily's voice seems clearer as well.  always like her voice backed up by
piano.
kind of a sunny-sounding song that doesn't quite fit the bitter undertone
to the
lyric, though.  odd.


- --


somehow these arrangements seem less adventurous than shaming of the sun.
there's a clearer divergence of their musical styles here than on any album to
date.  at least sots had "get out the map" which still had some playful vocal
interplay between the two of them.  there's none of that here, i'm afraid.
there's a few good songs here ("soon be to nothing", "sister", "ozilline",
"cold
beer and remote control") and a few good tracks ("trouble", "compromise",
"faye
tucker") but a major oeuvre, i'm afraid, this ain't.


ron
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date: tue, 28 sep 1999 23:15:14 -0700
from: i never was the fantasy of what you wanted me to be <sgb29641@csun.edu>
subject: [ig-news] cons -- my review


[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at netspace.org.]

the following is more or less what i posted to another mailing list i'm on
(merwolfpack, anyone?).  they're not all ig fans so it was kind of
generic, and i'm polishing it a bit for this.  ;)


"go" -- electric rocker in true amy style, political pep talk, mean guitar
riffs . . . one sustained electric guitar note and amy launches right
into the vocals.  (i just love that about her.)   a&e sound great when
they're harmonizing the bridge . . . but this song is so much better live.

"soon be to nothing" -- classic emily ballad with a dark twist.  i think
it's gorgeous.  i like how emily pulls some little tricks with the meter
(stress where you wouldn't expect it, or dragging out some syllables in a
different way).  it jars the flowing melody just enough to keep me on my
toes.

"gone again" -- i love this track!  is this really our amy?  wow.  this
song makes me want to get up and dance around my room like a complete
goofy idiot.  so i do.  i love the whistling at the end--it's *just*
barely not quite in tune, which just adds to the appeal for me.

"trouble" -- well, if amy could go folksy, emily can go more electric
rock.  amy's been rubbing off on her; this song is a lot less poetic and a
lot more cryptic.  in fact, lyrically it reminds me a little bit of
tori amos.  sounds to me like some of the rage against the machine
influence is showing.  you go, emily!  rock out . . . i love this song,
especially the following:
"one day the war will stop and we'll grow a peaceful crop
and a girl can get a wife and we can bring you back to life . . ."
boy, she's pulling no verbal punches this time around, is she?

"sister" -- oh my god.  amy at her dark, brooding best.  it's reminiscent
of "chickenman," and the destroyer of guitar strings totally sends shivers
down my spine . . . wow.  it's an amazing song, seriously.  like . . .
god.  wow.  haunting and slick and ominous and . . . rowr.  yes, i'm an
emily person, but oh my god.  the chorus gets me every time . . .

"peace tonight" -- this is a fun one.  i really think so.  i've liked it
ever since they started playing it on the radio a couple of weeks ago.
not the strongest track on the album, no, but i like it nonetheless.  it
puts me in a good mood, and it gets points just for that.  em's voice
sounds great here.  the lessons paid off big time.

"ozilline" -- another folksy amy song.  i love the imagery . . . i can't
think of anything coherent to say about it really, but the images stick in
my head.

"we are together" -- cute song.  i like the dog and rabbit imagery . . .

"cold beer and remote control" -- another emily track, and a contender for
her best on the album.  another one that could've been a downer, but
isn't.  sheryl crow does backup vocals on this one, and there are great
images like "a two-tired car sitting up on the blocks / and things i put
aside like that pile of rocks" all through it.  sort of an homage to the
american who fought capitalism and lost.  it reminds me a lot of "make it
easier," thematically.

"compromise" -- indigo girls go punk.  full-out hard core punk.  it's an
amy track, all right, but emily amazingly enough sounds right at home on
it.  (how does she do that?)

"andy" -- pretty, but not my favorite track.  i like it all right, i
guess.


"faye tucker" -- the first thing that came to mind for me about this song
was that the opening line ("on the night they killed faye tucker") sounds
a lot like "the night pat murphy died," particularly the great big sea
rendition.  reading the lyrics, it could be a real downer . . . but it
isn't.  natacha atlas is amazing!


i like the acoustic "sister" almost better than the "normal" rendition on
here, and "philosophy of loss?"  wow!  what a pretty little piece it is.


i'm sure i missed stuff, but i'm sleepy and off to bed . . . ;)


        battle on,
        shanie
        (emily advocate; gabfan; dedicated champion of the underrated blonde)
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"god, if i could find the person who did that, i'd take a cocktail fork
and poke them so full of holes!"  -- kerry stuart in "tropical storm," by
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date: wed, 29 sep 1999 10:59:37 -0400
from: "lane, tara e." <telane@trigon.com>
subject: [ig-news] ig stickers for sale


[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
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hey ya'll, i have this friend in ca, who is awesome by the way, and she has
made some really cool bumper stickers.  they're the little round oval kind,
like people have that have little initials for places they like to go and
such?  people around my neck of the woods have ones that say "obx" for outer
banks, and "hi" for hatteras island, and "mv" for martha's vineyard.  ya'll
know what i'm talking about, right?  anyways, my friend had these awesome
stickers made that say "ig" inside a little blue oval.  it's navy blue ink
on a white background.  cool for chasing indigo to all these shows.


she's selling them for $3 each or 2 for $5.  send cash, money orders or
checks to her at:


lynn dillard
po box 3913
redwood city, ca 94064


i promise she's trustworthy and all.  email *her* for details, not me,
thanks. (ledillard@yahoo.com)


- -tara lane


ps - i've got like 23 bootleg packages left as of today - for those who are
wondering.  please be patient for your 9:30 and shades discs.  hope those
who've received them are enjoying them greatly.

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date: wed, 29 sep 1999 13:57:05 -0400
from: michael cunningham <mcunningham@pbp1.com>
subject: [ig-news] san diego


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10/31/99 san diego, ca   sdsu open air theater
on sale: 10/2 - 10:00am (619)220-8497 (local tm)


hkf's,


i have this info updated on my site:
http://home.earthlink.net/~mcunningham5/indigotour.html


and please let us know any more on sale info if you stumble upon it.
thanks!


a+e=ig


"we are fortunate ones, fortunate ones, i swear..."

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date: wed, 29 sep 1999 11:46:19 -0400
from: jami klein <jamik@adelphia.net>
subject: [ig-news] philly & nyc ig tix 4 sale


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1 ticket for sale for monday october 4 at tower theater in
philly.  it's orchestra right center, row qq, seat 117.

2 tickets for sale for monday october 11 at beacon theater in nyc.
they're in orchestra, row w, seats 2 & 4.

1 ticket for sale for tuesday october 12 at beacon theater in nyc>
it's in orchestra, row w, seat 112.

just askin' for what i paid.


email me if interested.
jami
jamik@adelphia.net

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date: wed, 29 sep 1999 16:52:28 -0400
from: michael cunningham <mcunningham@pbp1.com>
subject: [ig-news] birmingham mini-listmeet


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hkf's,


according to the daemon site, three finger cowboy is set to open the show.
therefore, we have figured out a time for a mini-listmeet before the show.


it will be at 7:30 pm in front of the will-call window.  i called and
checked the will-call window is right outside of the entrance to the concert
hall so it's there!  i'll be there in my green cargo shorts and my light
green t-shirt.  cya there!


and i assume i will see amanda, lisa, heather, and other kind folks there as
well, right!


later,
mike


a+e=ig


mcunningham5@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~mcunningham5/indigotour.html
"i thank the lord, for the people i have found..."

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