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ig-news-digest        tuesday, november 9 1999        volume 02 : number 201


today's subjects:
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  [ig-news] eugene ticket still available     [bonster <bonster@drizzle.com>]
  [ig-news] ig in sf chronicle        [anna lissa cruz <annalissa@m2net.com>]
  [ig-news] for sale 2 tix row 12 for seattle 11/12 show  [simone jarzabek <]
  [ig-news] seattle listmeet friday 11/12     [bonster <bonster@drizzle.com>]
  [ig-news] berkeley 11/7                 [jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>]
  [ig-news] amy responds to stomp & stammer cons review - long!  [memememi@a]


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date: mon, 8 nov 1999 12:20:18 -0800
from: bonster <bonster@drizzle.com>
subject: [ig-news] eugene ticket still available


[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at netspace.org.]


orchestra row f, seat 302


please give this ticket a good home. it won't let you down, it doesn't
carry any emotional baggage, you don't have to buy it groceries or have it
vaccinated, it doesn't bite, and it is guaranteed to bring you much joy.


added bonus:
it's only one seat away from the center aisle and you get to sit next to a
groovy happenin' gal (i'm not telling who, though).


face value (and what a cute face!).


- -bon

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date: mon, 8 nov 1999 12:41:55 -0800
from: anna lissa cruz <annalissa@m2net.com>
subject: [ig-news] ig in sf chronicle


[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at netspace.org.]


hope this hasn't been posted yet.... but there's a review of saturday's
berkeley, ca show in the san francisco chronicle today.


you can view it online at


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/11/08
/dd10009.dtl&type=music


click on the thumbnail of emily's guitar to get a real cute picture of them.


otherwise, here's the article.


indigo girls cover the spectrum
duo's tough-tender folk-rock plays to loving crowd in berkeley
the indigo girls are an equal-opportunity pleasure. women love them. men
love them, too. middle-aged mothers and young lesbians, straight and gay
guys love them. their appeal is as broad as the bay area is diverse, and on
saturday, at the first of duo's two nights at the berkeley community
theater, the love was flowing in tidal waves. ''we love playing here,'' the
indigo's rocking half, amy ray, told the crowd following one of the
concert's many massive sing-alongs.


''on monday we're playing in eureka. that's humboldt county, right?'' she
laughed. ''i guess we'll be playing for a different crowd there. maybe
cops,'' she said, referring to several 1997 incidents where eureka police
and humboldt sheriff's deputies put pepper spray in the eyes of
anti-logging protesters. shaking her head, ray struck up the intro to
''shame on you.''


since they released their first album 12 years ago, singer-songwriters ray
and emily saliers have evolved into folk-rock's most creative and enduring
act. the combination of musical personalities deserves some of the credit:
saliers' melodic, singer-songwriter style softens ray's rowdier punk edges;
ray gives saliers' mellow flow needed depth and bite.


together, this makes for tough, beautiful music that touches listeners
mainstream and hard core alike.


>from the jagged guitar intro of their opening song, ''go,'' to the closing
chords of their final encore number, ''galileo,'' the indigo girls had the
sold-out house up and dancing, sitting rapt on the slow numbers, swaying in
time.


as expected, longtime favorites such as ''closer to fine,'' ''get out the
map'' and ''power of two'' got the biggest roars and incited pitch-perfect
singing from the crowd. but new material from the band's sixth album,
''come on now social'' -- ''compromise,'' ''gone again''


- --were greeted with enthusiastic cheers. it says something about a band's
music and its fans when an audience knows the words to month-old songs.


saturday's show highlighted the indigo girls' ability to combine
irresistible hooks with complex musicianship and loaded lyrics. a catchy
song such as ''trouble'' carries some whopping content with lines such as
''one day war will stop'' and ''one day a girl can get a wife'' -- both of
which evoked cheers from the berkeley audience.


they're also the types of lyrics that prompted conservatives to try to ban
the openly gay duo from performing at several southern high schools in 1998.


no such problems here. switching between guitar, mandolin and banjo, the
indigos enlivened their 90-minute set with frequent shifts among
country-western, rock and acoustic folk styles. saliers led one of the
evening's most ebullient numbers, ''get out the map,'' and ray's throaty
alto ushered in a booming, beat-heavy jam session on ''scooter boys.''


the four-piece backup band performed beautifully. the rhythm section gave
hips to the rocking numbers; cellist caroline dale's inventive bowing
techniques added layers of emotional depth. carol isaacs' keyboards and
accordion carried melodies and transformed the powerhouse acoustic ballad
''johnny rotten'' into an edgy irish jig.


the night's only slow spot came during the encore, when opening act rose
polenzani joined the headliners onstage to deliver one of her own twee,
wheezy compositions. next to the indigo girls', she sounded like a
consumptive hummingbird. chalk it up to the indigos' big hearts and their
dedication to championing the weak and helpless. and kudos to the audience
for having the grace to applaud. indeed, a little love goes a long way.


- --
anna lissa cruz
manager of network technologies


m squared, llc
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san francisco, ca  94104-2910
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date: mon, 8 nov 1999 11:54:31 -0800
from: simone jarzabek <sljarzabek@hotmail.com>
subject: [ig-news] for sale 2 tix row 12 for seattle 11/12 show


[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at netspace.org.]


seats 5 and 6 just left of the center aisle, at cost... please contact
simone e-mail _slj@yahoo.com (that's "underscore" slj) or phone 425-413-1335
in maple valley.  e-mail is probably quicker, but the answering machine is
always on.


thanks simone

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date: mon, 8 nov 1999 10:47:49 -0800
from: bonster <bonster@drizzle.com>
subject: [ig-news] seattle listmeet friday 11/12


[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at netspace.org.]


does anyone want to meet up before the seattle show friday night?
a group of us are planning to get together at 6 at thai heaven. it's only
a few blocks from mercer arena.


address:     352 roy seattle wa 98109
             (206) 285-1596
directions:


take the seneca st. exit, #165.
merge onto seneca st.
turn right onto 4th ave.
turn slight right onto broad st.
turn slight left onto 5th ave n.
turn left onto roy st.


map:
http://yp.uswest.com/cgi/search.fcg?mq=y&listing_id=182363997&state=washington


please email me if you plan to attend so that i can get a head count.


thanks,
bon


oh, i do believe i may have an extra ticket, 8th row center section amy's
side. face value + ticketb*stard charges. email me if interested.

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date: mon, 8 nov 1999 09:17:20 -0800
from: jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
subject: [ig-news] berkeley 11/7


[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at netspace.org.]


hiya,


round two:


first, i want to say thank you!! again to leslie and her friends, who
went out of their way to drive me home late on a sunday night.  ok, on
to the review:


ask someone else for the correct set list, but this is what i recall,
in no particular order:


off the new album:
go
trouble
peace tonight
ozilline
soon to be nothing
cold beer and remote control
compromise
faye tucker


oldies but goodies:
romeo & juliet
kid fears
hammer and a nail
power of two
closer to fine
get out the map
(i know i'm missing something else... you know, the one with the "three
lovely back-up singers"... yikes.  i'm having a duh moment)


encores:
(something with vonda shepard that i have heard before on ally.)
gone again
galileo


highlights:


since i was honest about my feelings on rose, i thought i should be
honest about my feelings on vonda.  not knowing her work, i went in
thinking "oh god that ally mcbeal chick" and didn't have very high
expectations.  but, i was pleasantly surprised!  i thought she was
pretty good.  she was definitely entertaining, kept the audience
engaged, and her songs were varied and fun.  i'm not going to rush out
and buy her new album, but i did enjoy her stuff and do see a lot of
potential.


the audience was great, stood and danced nearly the whole show and amy
kept commenting on it... "you're still standing??"  she kept promising
there would be a sit-down moment and then when everyone finally did
sit, she said "i see you found that sit down moment i was talking
about".  it was cute <g>


they played "hammer and a nail" for a little kid named ryan that had
drawn a picture of them and had given it to them at the album signing
at tower that afternoon (more on that later).  in place of "johnny
rotten" which amy had played by herself the night before, everyone left
the stage and amy played "romeo & juliet" by herself on just her
acoustic.  the audience was quiet and really into it and when she
finished she got this huge smile on her face (i love it when she
smiles) and thanked us for listening, it was very sweet.  it happens to
be one of my favorite songs (even though it's not really thier song, i
know) and i thought "ok, now i can die a happy woman."  then they
played "kid fears" and i thought i *had*.  wow.


can i just add how hard it is to dance to compromise?  i love the song,
and most people were on their feet, but everyone was sort of at a loss
for how to move to it :)  and it seems that they play it faster in
concert than it is on the cd too.  good thing it's short!


and that piano intro to power of tow still confuses me.  it's kinda fun
though that no one has any clue what the hell song their playing until
the guitars come in, and then everyone goes "oh! cool!" and starts to
cheer.  <g>


oh and the security staff were jerks and wouldn't let us stay to get
set lists or guitar pics.  it may have been because they needed to get
the heck out of there to get to eureka for tonight's show, but sheesh
throwing a few guitar picks takes what... maybe 10 minutes?  oh well.


so... i don't think there were as many great "moments" in last night's
show as there were on saturday, but there were a lot of great songs,
and some great out-of-the-woodwork stuff, and the performance was well
worth braving a cold, rainy night for.


~jean


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sneakyjean@yahoo.com
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date: mon, 8 nov 1999 19:41:17 est
from: memememi@aol.com
subject: [ig-news] amy responds to stomp & stammer cons review - long!


[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at netspace.org.]


last month, a local atlanta magazine, stomp and stammer, reviewed "come on
now social".    this month, amy responded to that review with a letter to the
editor/reviewer.


to follow her letter, and her points, i thought it would be best to also
include the original review in this email.   and i'll also include his
response to her letter.


and i'm not sending this to reopen the debate on the death penalty, but i
thought amy's response to his criticism, and her thoughts about "faye tucker"
(person and song) might clear up some things to those who might still have
questions regarding her motives.


lisa


all reprinted without permission from stomp & stammer
(http://www.stompandstammer.com)
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the original review:


come on now social
reviewed by jeff clark
stomp & stammer - october, 1999
4 out of 6 stars


musically, the new indigo girls album kicks off with an incendiary blast: a
crunchy, amy ray-penned slapshot called "go," marked by the pair's
uncharacteristically nasty rock 'n' roll guitars and ray's raw, passionate
vocals. the tune harkens positively to neil young's periodic work with crazy
horse, and sets the tone for a radical, and most welcome, upping of their
creative ante. alas, it never materializes in what follows. cut number two,
an emily saliers composition called "soon to be nothing" that sounds like it
should be sandwiched between john denver and poco on some '70s "ez lite rock"
fm station, makes for such a drastic and immediate shift in mood and tempo
that the urgency of what came before is soon forgotten. what seems at first
glance to be an effort to hotwire the atlanta duo's pop fortunes by making a
star-studded, musically-adventurous statement is in actuality just another
indigo girls album.


which is not necessarily a bad thing, mind you. there's a lot to be said for
the comfortable and familiar, and the indigo girls have resonated with such a
dedicated following not by faking hipness but by conveying a realness, a
conviction and an authenticity that most other popular entertainers simply
lack. as people like young, bob dylan, and others of their predecessors who
have also straddled the fence between folk and rock discovered, when they
strayed too far from what the simplicity of what they do and tried on
different trends or pop sheen, it more often than not fell flat, because it
obscured their true strengths. thus, while come on now social has been
suitably lilithed with musical guest spots by joan osborne, sheryl crow, and
me'shell ndegeocello, their presence on the album is, wisely, hardly
noticeable. if you didn't realize in advance that they were there, you
wouldn't know or care. they neither add nor detract. meanwhile, ray and
saliers continue their incorporation of traditional acoustic instruments like
banjo and mandolin, to great effect, giving songs like "ozilline" and "gone
again" a homey, warm southern ambiance. the only songs besides "go" to really
rock out -- saliers' "trouble" and ray's "compromise" -- do so with vigor and
confidence. i really wish they'd do more of that, but then again, that
probably has more to do with my own tastes. i never cared much for poco,
anyhow.


whether political propaganda deserves any place in the rock 'n' roll world is
also, i suppose, a matter of taste, but obviously the indigo girls believe
that it does, what with the causes they've rallied around, the lists of
activist groups they encourage their listeners to support (mostly
environmental, gun control, feminist and gay/lesbian lobbies), and the
highly-charged leftist content of many of their songs. while it's no surprise
that i don't saddle up with them on many issues, i can vouch for the
sincerity of their beliefs and admire their ethics. but really, amy, you're
going for the way-too-easy heart-tugging tactics on "faye tucker," the
closing song here (prior to a pair of bonus tracks). it's a mournful elegy
for the first woman executed for murder in texas since the civil war,
complete with the angelic vocals of arabic singer natacha atlas, but any way
you look at it, ray's philosophical presentation is flawed. "well mercy could
prove us," she sings, "but nothing would move us, to rise above just being
cruel." now, wait a minute. is she saying that that, because tucker was
female, she should have been treated differently than the male inmates on
death row? that would go against the supposed cornerstone of feminism and
equality of the sexes, right? so the message must be that capital punishment
= evil, a view which is backed up by the girls' listing of the national
coalition to abolish the death penalty in the "resources" section of the
album's liner notes. but do you think ray would ever sing some weepy song
mourning the execution of a guy who raped and dismembered little girls, or
dragged some black man behind his pickup truck until he was decapitated?
hell, no! to do so would cause ray's listeners to question their blanket
acceptance of the indigo girls' anti-capital punishment stance. such
horrendous murders do not lend themselves so easily to emotional pleas for
leniency and calls for re-hab hand-holding. was not tucker also "being cruel"
when she committed murder in the first place? such self-evident details, when
pointed out, crumble the effectiveness of protest songs such as "faye
tucker," exposing them to be all-too-shallow. it's a consistent failing that
the indigo girls would do well to overcome.


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amy's letter:


to jeff -
actually, i am saying any killing is cruel, whether it be what k. faye did or
the death penalty imposed by the state.   i am unashamedly against capital
punishment - no matter who is up for it.  it does not bring any resolution or
healing, does not save money and can never be issued in an unbiased fashion -
money, race, and sex do play a role in things.


the song is meant to allude to the more interesting problems that come up
when faye becomes a pawn instead of a human in the tug of war between anti-
and pro-death advocates.  her apparent rebirth to christianity created
strange bedfellows in this battle.  in the end, it didn't matter that she was
okay with her own death sentence.  no matter what happens - she can't win
("if you live they're gonna make you a campaigner - if you die they'll make
you a grave") - she lost control of her soul and her life when she took
another - just as we do when instituting the death penalty.  "that's why
killing don't pay" was meant for us and k. faye.


if you will follow the lyrics more closely you will see that the song is full
of double entendre and irony.  i chose this particular story not because she
is a woman - but rather i had read so much about it and found it compelling.
i have a long history of fighting the death penalty in any case - even the
most gruesome.  you are too swayed by false assumptions about the indigo
girls and your assumptions are - as you say about the song - "shallow" at
best.  our politics go very deep and include all of the irony, absurdity,
humor and gray areas that this life has to offer.  you would do well not to
fall into the same trap that some other male rock critics have fallen prey to
- - we are not some fledgling female band that can be summed up by a list of
political resources and a few pop songs.  we have been playing together for
20 years and have endured a lot of bullshit, yet are still willing to rock
and be committed financially and time-wise to our issues.  this is more than
i can say for most bands.  here's to the motherfuckin revolution!


amy ray (indigo girls)


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jeff clark's response:


amy,


well, i never once insinuated that i believed you or emily were not fully
committed to your issues.  as a native atlantan who has followed your work
since the early days, i am convinced of your passion in these matters.  nor
have i ever referred to you as some fledgling female pop band.  i just
disagree with you on the death penalty matter.  i believe that heinous crimes
call for serious punishment, not vague rehabilitation.  in fact, the death
penalty does bring about resolution, it would save money if it was actually
instituted properly, and if we are to believe that it can never be issued in
an unbiased fashion, well then neither can any other courtroom decision, so
why don't we just do away with all of it and let everyone do whatever the
fuck they like without any threat of punishment?  after all, it's never
unbiased, is it?


keep on rockin' in the free world!


jeff clark

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