lifeblood: listlogs: 2000-03e

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date:         tue, 28 mar 2000 19:08:51 est
reply-to:     jess913@aol.com
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subject:      special invite: voices on the verge (nigc)
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hey listers. this is an invitation to the voices on the verge studio
recording sessions in philly. this was only sent to the artists mailing
lists and has not been publicly announced, but there are a few tickets left
and its a good deal considering you get a copy of the cd.

also, while i am posting, rose polenzani has a solo show at passim in
cambridge, ma on friday (3/31) at 8pm. maya dorn is opening, she's a great
sing-songwriter from colorado, new to boston, kick-ass guitar player and huge
sweetie. it should be a great show all around!! you can reserve tickets by
calling 617-492-7679.
(can someone fwd that to baigls?? thanks!)

jess b
www.geocities.com/amari913
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rykodisc / slow river,
new park entertainment,
and gabriel unger artist management
present:

"voices on the verge"
live in-studio recording sessions
featuring beth amsel, erin mckeown,
jess klein, and rose polenzani

you are formally invited to attend a rare and memorable
recording session for the upcoming "voices on the verge"
live album (to be made available in upcoming months from
rykodisc / slow river). there will be two sessions and
only 50 seats per session available to the general public.
right now there are a few tickets left, and we don't have
to tell you those are going to go fast, so
purchase your ticket(s) asap if yo want to come!
this is an exclusive invitation,
being offered right now to members of jess, beth,
rose, erin, and new park entertainment's email lists,
as well as fans of other artists that these four
women have toured with .

when:
wed 3/29/00 7pm
and
thur 3/30/00 7pm

where:
indre studios
1418 south darien street
(bet'w 8th & 9th, off reed st.)
philadelphia, pa 19147
directions: http://www.indrestudios.com/directions.htm

tickets:
$20 per show (includes 1 autographed copy of the final cd at time of official
release). tickets available at ticketmaster outlets; charge by phone at
215.336.2000 or 856.338.9000; charge on-line at www.ticketmaster.com; or visit
repo records 1045 lancaster ave in bryn mawr pa.

go to http://www.newparkent.com for complete details.
visit http://www.indrestudios.com for more info on the studio/venue.
visit http://www.rykodisc.com if you would like to learn more about
rykodisc/slow river

voices on the verge artist websites:
www.angelfire.com/ma/bethamsel
www.erinmckeown.com
www.jessklein.com
www.rosepolenzani.com

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date:         wed, 29 mar 2000 01:00:12 +0000
reply-to:     jen lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>
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from:         jen lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>
subject:      admin note: oscar talk
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hi folks,

it's time to take all the oscar talk (hillary swank, anjelina jolie,
etc) to other forums.

please continue this discussion off the list.

thank you.

jen lucero
ig list co-owner

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date:         tue, 28 mar 2000 22:01:43 -0500
reply-to:     j k <kshucks@juno.com>
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subject:      nigc looking for chicago friends!
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even if you ain't in chicago, if you have *any* chicago contacts, please
let me know because i don't know anyone out there!

hey y'all,

i am a soon to be transplaced baigl (boston area indigo girls listee),
and i'm looking for cool folks in chicago. as the baigls will hopefully
back me up on, i am an outgoing person who likes meeting folks and
building strong friendships. i will be at northwestern u. sporadically
from july until mid-september, when i will be there permanently.

is there a chicago group of ig fans out there? do you have an elist? how
do i contact y'all so that i can join your group?

i will answer all emails (though if you email in the summer, it may be a
while as i will be traveling all over for weeks at a time). i'm keeping
my home email of kshucks@juno.com so you can reach me there.

i look forward to hearing from some of y'all (please) <smile>.

sincerely,
jenny korn
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date:         tue, 28 mar 2000 19:19:24 -0800
reply-to:     sunny <sunnyig@yahoo.com>
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from:         sunny <sunnyig@yahoo.com>
subject:      re: ok...another thought from sparkie
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ok this is fun...

> the question to the list is:
> "who is the person or group of people that you have
> introduced to the indigo girls who you thought would
> not go for them but have become fans.....perhaps
> even more so than yourself......"

***oops...i read the question wrong...i was thinking
"who introduced me to ig" duh i think i need to go to
bed...anyway - it was fun to think back on
it...interesting anyway.***

i really had to think hard on this one - who did
exactly introduce me to ig? i have to laugh bc it was
my boyfriend - it was in 1989 i was a freshman in
college...he was my first boyfriend/love blah
blah...he played guitar and would "woo" me w his
singing...*teehee* - he made a copy of 'this tape' and
told me it was pretty cool...so i have memories of
walking around campus listening to ctf, prince of
darkness, blood and fire,...etc. - i dug em then - i
*love* them now...actually - i loved em back then
too...*smile* the funny thing is - he is the *last*
person i would have thought to introduce me to ig...i
transferred colleges and he used to made comments
about the friends i hung out with...we were a group of
women who were very close w each other...we had a lot
of good fun/laughs w each other - drank a lot of beer
and sang a lot of ig - so we just had to be
lesbians...i think he was just scared of his own
sexuality and what it all could mean! anyway - he is
married now w 2 kids...

so yeah - i read the question wrong...it'll give me
something else to think about...lol. :o)

nighty night,
sunny - who feels grateful to 'that boy' that
introduced her to ig but oh so happy not to be the one
he married!

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date:         tue, 28 mar 2000 21:22:43 -0600
reply-to:     paula shepherd <igfan19@hotmail.com>
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correct me if i am wrong,
but in answer to elaine what else has angelina been in...i first saw her in
this year's movie with denzel washington in "the bone collector". she played
the cop who became his eyes and ears looking for a serial killer. i thought
it was a good movie. that is the only movie i have seen her in. she has a
new
one with nicolas cage about stealing cars. i wasn't too impressed with the
trailer of that movie.
what is this movie "gia"? is it lesbian in nature?

thanks,
paula

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date:         tue, 28 mar 2000 21:35:00 -0600
reply-to:     paula shepherd <igfan19@hotmail.com>
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sorry to the owners for posting my original message. i posted it before
reading your note.
i usually follow the rules better. :)

thanks,
paula

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date:         tue, 28 mar 2000 21:44:35 -0600
reply-to:     kerri belfor <kbelfor4444@vax2.winona.msus.edu>
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from:         kerri belfor <kbelfor4444@vax2.winona.msus.edu>
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hi,
i am kerri. i am from milwaukee wisconsin and i was just wondering if
anyone else went to there concert here this fall? wasn't it amazing!
-k-
write back and telll me what you thought of it

kbelfor4444@vax2.winona.msus.edu

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date:         tue, 28 mar 2000 23:00:45 -0500
reply-to:     deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
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from:         deb <indigo@mindspring.com>
subject:      re: nigc: oscar talk
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>from: ryan blackhawke <hawke2@email.msn.com>
>
>my
>point is, either let all the words in or none of them. otherwise, it gives
>the appearance of a mild case of mysogeny (i loved the song and was hoping
>it would win and was irked with all the bleeping).

i explained why (and pointed out that the gender-neutral "ass" is
acceptable for similar reasons).

>plus, why do you think i
>have a chip on my shoulder because i don't like jolie and thought the other
>actresses did a better job??

i said that because you quoted her privileged background as a likely
contributor to her winning the award, and having seen some of her excellent
work, it seemed petty and unfair.

as for her brother... weird, perhaps, but i don't care to make it my
business to play judge such things from afar.

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date:         tue, 28 mar 2000 22:58:48 -0500
reply-to:     havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com>
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i first saw angelina jolie in her portayal of 'legs' in the movie
'foxfire' - quite an interesting character - similar in intensity to gia -
both movies are personal favorites....

love the scene when gia's male friend asked her if she ever had sex w/ a man
and she answers 'once - i could have done that w/ a german shepherd' - does
that answer your question? ;)

peace,
tim

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from: paula shepherd <igfan19@hotmail.com>

> correct me if i am wrong,
> but in answer to elaine what else has angelina been in...i first saw her
in
> this year's movie with denzel washington in "the bone collector". she
played
> the cop who became his eyes and ears looking for a serial killer. i
thought
> it was a good movie. that is the only movie i have seen her in. she has a
> new
> one with nicolas cage about stealing cars. i wasn't too impressed with the
> trailer of that movie.
> what is this movie "gia"? is it lesbian in nature?
>
> thanks,
> paula

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date:         tue, 28 mar 2000 23:53:43 est
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"who is the person or group of people that you have introduced to the indigo
girls who you thought would not go for them but have become fans.....perhaps
even more so than yourself......"

i introduced my best friend to the girls.  i had a major crush on him at the
time (we were just ...welll...not quite best friends at the time)--so, i lent
him the cd's (you know...if you lend someone something--they have to see you
again to return it!)--we spent loads of time together that summer--it was the
summer we became best friends.  we would walk down the streets of downtown
charleston (sc) and sing indigo girls.  in fact, we still love to do that.
of course--crush ended when he came out of the closet.  :-)  irony, irony,
irony, there.

we are closer than ever--and, many of their songs relate to us. it's lovely.

also, i dragged my "little sister" (no blood relation, therefore the
quotation marks) to a billy joel concert. she was not into his music--it
wasn't "popular." she loved the concert--and, made way in her life for other
types of music than the kinds she usually listened to.

it's amazing how music can change people's lives--and, can widen their
perception of what's going on around them.

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date:         wed, 29 mar 2000 00:36:12 -0500
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from:         nancy lambert <armydillo@mindspring.com>
subject:      siblings & ig songs
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i was just gonna stay quiet but i can't.  the angelina jolie relationship
with her brother -- i totally understand it.  my brother and i are very
close.  so close in fact that i a mere 25 and with little money was going to
take his kids (an 8 yr old and a set of twins at 5 yrs) into my custody
since he was having a hard time raising them by himself.  and my sister, tho
we don't agree in the political arenas, have become closer over the years.
see i am technically an only child and these are technically my half
siblings, but we never think of each other that way.  my brother helped
raise me for 2 years.  when he moved back into the house when i was 12 and
going through hell at school, he was the only one who really understood why
i ran away from home.  and he was the only one who told me it was ok to
stand up for myself and what i believed in and fight back.  see, i used to
get the crap beaten out of me by peers coz i was different.  i survived it,
but not without emotional scars.  this brings in the ig songs:  "love will
come to you" -- that's my fav.  and "kid fears" - that i can relate to.  and
"love of the common people".  whenever i feel totally frustrated with the
rest of my life i know that my family will be there.

thanks
nan

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date:         wed, 29 mar 2000 01:50:09 pst
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>from: claudia rollins <ctofine2@aol.com>
>>date: tue, 28 mar 2000 13:51:13 -0500
>
.....have all played a part in different situations in my lie--and, that
hearing
>them always brings back memories and feelings of those situations.
>
for me the song would be 'mystery' since it was exactly a time 'when the
summer was giving up her fight' and 'every thought was a possibility' when i
was getting together with my gf. very romantic, very deep:)

kate - temporarily subscribing from a different address

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date:         wed, 29 mar 2000 14:30:41 -0500
reply-to:     michael cunningham <mcunningham@pbp1.com>
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subject:      more oscars
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j/k j/k j/k j/k j/k...

http://home.earthlink.net/~mcunningham5/indigotour.html

i just updated my page with everything current so far (i think so, that
is)... and if y'all have any more onsale info, links for venues or anything
else - that would be super-dooper-swellerrific!!!

thanks and carry on my pretties...

in my cd player now: blues traveler, travelers & thieves
going to see in the next 4 days: susan tedeschi, derek trucks, gwen stefani
and a local band out of athens called widespread panic!

a+e=ig

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date:         wed, 29 mar 2000 11:26:30 est
reply-to:     jilly c <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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subject:      nigc, nrpc: catie curtis/ t. chapman benefit
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hi everybody. a friend at brown is putting on a benefit concert. i thought
the names on the bill would make you squeal a little. so. here you go. (i
do believe erin mckeown is on the bill too.)

**please** forward this to other email lists (i.e. mckeown's, catie's, ani,
dar, baigls, godknowswhoelse). forward like mad.

jill

-----begin supercalifragilisticexpialidocious concert plug here-----

is there any way you can get this information out to your list so that
people know about the benefit concert? we haven't been able to get the word
out and we desperately need to!

tracy chapman / catie curtis benefit concert
april 7, 8pm (doors: 7pm)
brown university's meehan auditorium, 235 hope st, providence
tix: $25 at all ticketmaster outlets as well as phones & online
(providence #: 401.331.2211)

sponsored by: vagina group, sarah doyle women's center, brown concert
agency; all proceeds go to organizations working to end violence against
women, including rape crisis centers & domestic abuse shelters

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date:         wed, 29 mar 2000 08:17:02 -0800
reply-to:     devin therese trego <dev171@yahoo.com>
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from:         devin therese trego <dev171@yahoo.com>
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  i have been lurking on this list for some time now,
but times of great joy must lead to de-lurking... some
time ago, the girls were being considered for our
spring concert here at marywood.  sadly, money didn't
work out, and the concert was cancelled altogether.
then, one of the local theatres and marywood (the
university i attend) struck up a deal to put the show
on in a joint venture!!  so, when you check the ig
website and see the scranton cultural center, that's
us!!  i thought that y'all might like to have some
info on this show, since scranton isn't the most
well-known of cities...
  the information that exists now is that tickets will
be first available to the students and staff here at
mu and then will be offered to the public through the
cultural center beginning on april 1st for $30.  the
phone number for the box office is (570) 346-7369.  if
anyone wants any more information such as food or
lodging, feel free to post or contact me.
regrettably, i cannot organize a listmeet because i
will be busy, as i am on a committee that will be
working backstage (*grin*).
  can i get a woo hoo!?!
love and light,
dev;)

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date:         wed, 29 mar 2000 11:31:40 est
reply-to:     jilly c <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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(shameless shameless shameless)

we three girls of oberlin are
driving to philly in a rental car
we're not loaded, could you be goaded
to let us sleep on your floor?

if you're at the voices on the verge recording session tonight and see me
(look for lots of hair and little glasses, eh) and you have some square
footage you could lend my comrades and i,

i'd love you forever.

um.
yeah.

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date:         wed, 29 mar 2000 13:07:45 -0800
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*wild applause*

hey, if i lived in the area, that would certainly earn you a place to sleep.
ryan

> (shameless shameless shameless)
>
> we three girls of oberlin are
> driving to philly in a rental car
> we're not loaded, could you be goaded
> to let us sleep on your floor?
>
> if you're at the voices on the verge recording session tonight and see me
> (look for lots of hair and little glasses, eh) and you have some square
> footage you could lend my comrades and i,
>
> i'd love you forever.

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date:         wed, 29 mar 2000 15:14:38 -0600
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just found this after being misplaced for awhile to a friends house..... hearing the crowds and the ad lib between amy , emily and the crowd really makes me 'homesick' if you will for a concert.....i wish they'd come back to arizona......

crossing fingers and turning the music up louder...sparkie.

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date:         wed, 29 mar 2000 09:00:15 est
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not sure if this is really answering the question...but...
it'll 'out' me as being one of those shaming of the sun-newbie types.  yes, i
didn't start listening to them until the fall of 1997.
and, to be honest....i heard a certain rumor about them...and saw a picture
of them...and was like, wow, these girls are gay, *i* might be gay...i should
buy the cd.  i wasn't totally out of the folk-indie scene..oh, ok.  i was.
tupac, pearl jam and outkast were my favorite ear candy makers at the time.
hey, at least it was eclectic.  ha.
anyway, during that crazy fall, i was a senior in h.s., and was thinking
maybe...i could just come out to my parents, and then a few others...and it
would work its way around school.  i wanted people to know...but still needed
more encouragement.
enter "it's alright" and other songs on that album.
i reviewed sots in my school newspaper, hoping someone would come up to me
and say they were fans as well.  didn't happen, but after i put a rainbow pin
on my backpack, and wrote a "people's differences are what makes this country
great" editorial, i did get a friendlier attitude from my stern female p.e.
teacher.  (or maybe i'm just imagining that.  i dunno.)

well, just sharing ....
how ig enriched my life
by mel

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> if you're at the voices on the verge recording session tonight and see me
> (look for lots of hair and little glasses, eh) and you have some square
> footage you could lend my comrades and i,

        hey jill -
        i hope you get this on time -
        i won't be there (going tomorrow night) but i can house you. the
way to get to bryn mawr is to go to 30th street tation in philly and
change to septa. take the r5 to bryn mawr, ask somebody to point you to
campus (it's a straight shot, 3 blocks, maybe) and call me from the first
yellow phonebox you see. x5802. if i'm not in, go hang out in the campus
center and call me periodically (there's a phonebox right outside) i'll
show up eventually.
        mandy

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        so, um. sometimes i post things publicly when i mean them to be
private. hi, everyone.
        while i'm here, though, i can answer one of the things we've been
talking about, even if it's not exactly the thread that was intended. in
fact, i'll go ahead and invent a new thread: near-misses with indigo
fandom. did any of y'all bump elbows with the indigo girls sometime way
back when, think to yourself "nah", and move merrily along, never dreaming
what you might be missing?
        the summer after my junior year in high school, i went to visit a
dear friend and former teacher of mine, who had moved out to georgia after
my freshman year. (four years in atlanta and she's *still* never seen the
girls even once! aaah!) it was a terribly loaded thing, this visit, and it
ended up being very painful for me, so i admit i wasn't really paying
attention when she put in a cassette tape of music she thought i'd like. i
listened politely for a bit, but the only time i paid attention was when i
picked out michael stipe's backing vocals on kf (i was already a big rem
fan at the time). about a year later (summer of '96) i came into the girls
on my own, and i've been kicking myself ever since for losing that first
year....
        the really ironic thing about all this is that this friend of mine
mostly listens to smashmouth and third eye blind and gets all wiggy when i
talk about ig being "folk"... sort of like my reaction when she refers to
them as "pop". heh.
        so how about everyone else? any unappreciated close encounters of
the indio kind from your pre-fandom past?
        mandy

        "i often think about pleasure, unlike the rest of you."
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hey hey!!!!!!! wheeeeeeeeeeew heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwww!!! ig comin to
durham nc...duke univeristy!!!!last year they came to chapel hill (right
down the road bout 8 mile..i live actually live in chapel hill) and played
on campus here at university of north carolina...they sold out...didnt get
to go..:( :( :( :( ..get this...the duke show will supposedly be outside in
the quad on west campus (according to the guy at the duke box office) and it
will be
fffffffffffffffffrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...free
free free free!! he doesnt know what time...i didnt bother askin if its open
or students only but i should considerin im not a student..i assumed (we all
know assuming makes an ass out of u and me hehehe) its open cuz its outside
and free on the quad but i could be wrong!! ill check though!! i have to
check back in a bit anyway to see what time..they dont know when theyll
know!! geez!!!! so if you want to add that to your page go for it!! ill let
you know when i know more!!!!!!!!!! yiipppiiieeee...aaahhhh...talk about
close and casual and just laid back..did i mention close?? hehehe..maybe i
can meet them now!!!! ill try not to think about that though!!!!! have a
wonderful day and thanks for info about your site!!!
..................."too old to care, too young to count"..............
go - ig
cara

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>date: wed, 29 mar 2000 14:30:41 -0500
>
>j/k j/k j/k j/k j/k...
>
>http://home.earthlink.net/~mcunningham5/indigotour.html
>
>i just updated my page with everything current so far (i think so, that
>is)... and if y'all have any more onsale info, links for venues or
>anything
>else - that would be super-dooper-swellerrific!!!
>
>thanks and carry on my pretties...
>
>in my cd player now: blues traveler, travelers & thieves
>going to see in the next 4 days: susan tedeschi, derek trucks, gwen stefani
>and a local band out of athens called widespread panic!
>
>a+e=ig
>
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>http://home.earthlink.net/~mcunningham5/indigo.html
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does anyone know who's opening for the girls at the cornell show?
also, is it general admission?

thanks,
kisha

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i don't know if this was a near miss or not.  i became a fan in '94.
looking back i now realize that they played alot in small clubs in
chapel hill when i was there in college.  they were in college in emory
(since we're the same age).  i wish i knew enough back then to have seen
them.  it would have been fun to see them before they were famous and
then now.  oh well, i missed a lot of things in college (girls, for
instance, i was a late bloomer).

--diane (new to the list)

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date:         wed, 29 mar 2000 13:40:51 -0600
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crossing fingers and turning the music up louder...sparkie.

loralei riney
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date:         wed, 29 mar 2000 18:25:31 -0500
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hi all,
i just wanted to say a bunch of things.
1) if anybody in the baltimore area wants a copy of 4.5, they're selling it
for $18 at soundgarden, in fells point. that's not too bad - cheapest i've
seen it was $18 canadian at sam the music man in toronto, though i think
others have seen it cheaper. just if you're looking. and just to head off
questions, i can't afford to buy it for anyone right now, and 4.5 is an
import best-of-indigo-girls type cd that came out a few years ago.

2)apparently us, the entertainment monthly, has decided to become an
entertainment weekly. the washington post was making fun of this fact, and
decrying the fact that they were already giving such important information
as an update on indigo girl amy ray's cysts. they weren't into hearing
about cysts, or about getting that particular magazine 4 times as often.
also, the advocate online has a new article about the glama nominations, and
highlights ig because of the number of nominations they recieved.

3)my apologies to anybody who doesn't want to hear about my new cd - i will
try not to mention it again. that said, i am mentioning it now. if anybody
wants to hear more about it, e-mail me and i'll put you on the mailing list.
if you don't, have no fear, and delete now. so: my cd, "charmed", produced
by sonia of disappear fear, is due out april 4 - this coming tuesday. it
features 11 of my songs and one phil ochs song. there are folk tunes, rock
tunes, and even techno-klezmer (i wrote it - i can describe it as i want).
if you are not in baltimore, you can get it on amazon, or directly from me,
or numerous other ways, though most of them are not in place just yet. i am
touring all over the east coast these days, so you can always get it at a
show.
*if you are in baltimore, come to the cd release show! it is tuesday, april
4, 8 pm, at buddies pub, 313 north charles at saratoga, (410) 332-4200.
sonia will be there, and i'll have a great band, and i'm more excited than
words can convey.*

sarah
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well, have to say this one....
i went to asu, home of sparky....and although i do not know the sexual orientation ...i must say perhaps the poster of the comment merely spelled the name wrong.....cause....sparkie ( me) grad from asu in microbiology and biochemistry is gay and very proud ( and thankful ) of it......just some levity on the topic......

sparkie...class of 89 b.s. in micro, bio chem., ht/htl ascp

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date:         wed, 29 mar 2000 15:43:43 -0800
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actual article at:
http://www.sonicnet.com/news/archive/story.jhtml?id=820249&pid=758702

rage, indigo girls may show at rally for mumia
abu-jamal
organizers of the may 7 event in new york say both
bands have pledged their support.

rock-rappers rage against the machine and folk-rockers
the indigo girls are lending their support to a may 7
rally in new york for death-row inmate mumia abu-jamal
and may appear at the event, according to organizers.

the event, a day for mumia, is scheduled to take place
in the theater at madison square garden. rage and the
indigo girls, who have both publicly supported
abu-jamal in the past, are "lending their name to the
event to help us get others," organizer monica
moorehead said.

both acts have other commitments may 7 but are
attempting to alter their schedules so they can
participate in the rally, moorehead said.

a spokesperson for epic records was unable to confirm
the bands' endorsement of the event but said that it
wouldn't be surprising, given both groups' history of
support for abu-jamal...

[...more on mumia...]

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sorry to bug the list, but can somebody send me the
url of that site that explains why the millenium march
is being boycotted? thanks!

jon/jack/turtle
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first in 92 i remember that i had a mix tape which had
galileo on it.  i liked the song but i had no idea who
it was. then my last year at camp, which was in 95, my
whole bunk were indigo girl fanatics.  it's kind of
funny too because their all from ny or somewhere up
there.  i don't know, i just think that they would
have been more popular down here since they're from
here.  ok, that was just a stupid thought.  anyways,
they would always play them and i would be like, "guys
come on.  turn that crap off."  i was going through
some punk stage.  anyways, by then end of the summer i
found myself daydreaming about women listening to
romeo and juliet.  that was during my "i'm differnt, i
don't know why but i am going to figure it out stage."
daydreaming about women kind of gave it away though.
well, if you've made it this far sorry for the
rambling.  anyways, after camp i didn't really listen
to them much.   mostly just romeo and juliet. then in
97 i became what i am today. a complete fanatic.  so
almost 5 years wasted of good fan time i could have
had.  oh well, watcha gonna do.
take care,
heather

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as if this huge # of you guys lived in asheville, nc or something, here's the
info for the show and ticket sales.. i can't help it.. how could i ever get
so lucky, and get to see mm as well!

indigo girls, w/ special guest michelle malone (woo-freakin-hoo!!), thomas
wolfe auditorium, thursday, april 27th at 8pm. tickets go on sale this
saturday (april 1st) at all ticketmaster outlets, and civic center box
office...
to charge by phone, (828) 251.5505..
well if for some crazy reason any of you are coming, let me know.. im sure
there will be a little shindig afterwards... should be a great show.. quite a
small place!
yay~!
erin (-:

hey y'all -
during the summer of 1991 i attended the university of san diego to obtain
my paralegal certification (not that i ever did anything with it.... but
that's another story).   sight unseen, i made arrangements on the advice of
the admissions office to rent one of two available bedrooms in the home of
a previous graduate of the program.  during the course of the summer, i
became friends with both the other renter (another paralegal student from
new mexico) and the owner of the home.  the other student, havens, heard
that ig was coming to sd state and did i want to go?  at the time, i had
heard ctf on the radio - but nothing else by them - and money being tight,
i passed but the homeowner said sure so havens bought both of them tickets.
turns out that on the day of the concert, the homeowner (i cannot remember
her name, for the life of me!) did not feel good, so she offered her ticket
to me at half price - and i went with about 4 other women, all of whom knew
about the indigo girls and were really excited.

i can still remember that evening in san diego - late june - sun setting
behind the amphitheatre - beautiful evening....  the ellen james society
opened, and being a garp fan, i was getting into them.  but then amy and
emily came out and started into hammer and a nail and i was hooked......  i
can't remember a whole bunch more about the setlist (i'm sure i could check
on lifeblood...just did, and there is no setlist for the show) except for
when amy introduced on of their new songs from nomads, indians, saints
called welcome me.  it was absolutely incredible.  actually, i do remember
something else - it was the last show of that particular concert tour, and
both of them were in fine spirits.....  one of the fans yelled to emily
"how'd you shoot today"  and emily answered something like "fifty over"....
it took me a few moments to figure out that she was referring to golf....
after the concert, we all went out for drinks and had a wonderful time.
the next morning i went out and bought nomads, back on the bus y'all,
strange fire and indigo girls.  to this day, whenever i hear welcome me i
flash back to that summer and driving down friars parkway in my well used
mazda glc, sunroof open, and singing at the top of my lungs.

so, almost ten years (& about 15 concerts) later, i would like to thank
both havens (who i have not heard from since that summer) for buying the
tickets, and the woman from whom we rented rooms (i wish i could remember
her friggin' name!) for getting sick so that i could discover the joy, fun,
friendship and comradery that comes from being an indigo girls fan.

carrie

when i was 13, my sister gave me a mixed tape that had closer to fine on
it.  i liked the song, but didn't pursue hearing anything else of there's.
a year later she gave me a tape that had both closer to fine and blood and
fire on it.  again, i liked the songs, but it still took me another year
before i actually listened to the whole album.  that's when i finally
became a fan, two years after my first ig exposure.  :)

lindy

i am pleased to announce that the earl in atlanta will be hosting a benefit
concert for the schools for chiapas on april 28th at 10pm. emceed by yours
truly the lineup is: red level eleven, 6x, michelle penn, stereopopsicle.
all the proceeds will be going directly to the school construction fund, so
come out if you can and say hi. or just come out. and for some it is even
on the way to dc for the millennium march

again:

benefit concert for the schools for chiapas
april 28th
10 pm
the earl

please feel free to forward this

nancy

hi all....
   i just wanted to share a small ig moment with you and hope that you find the humor in it, as well.
   i am an avid nhl hockey fan, particularly a detroit red wing fan since i was born and raised in the suburbs of detroit.
   about 2 years ago i was blessed with the chance to finally see "my boys" live -- i was able to be at an actual game for the first time.  they play a lot of live music during dead times in the game such as timeouts, penalties, dead plays, etc.  well, the opposing team got called for a penalty and before i knew it, the chorus of "shame on you" was being played over and over again throughout the arena.  besides being completely hillarious for the situation in which it was being played, it was great to hear "my girls" singing while i was watching "my boys."  what a perfect moment.
   and tonight, as i sit here listening to the game over the internet since i am now doing grad studies in georgia, i hear the song being played in the background again.
   there is nothing better than a touch of home.  thanks for listening....

kato

in a message dated 3/29/00 7:08:40 pm pacific standard time, kato1771@aol.com
writes:

> i am an avid nhl hockey fan, particularly a detroit red wing fan since i
> was born and raised in the suburbs of detroit.
i was born in pontiac. lived in birmingham and troy mostly. my dad used to
take me to red wings games when i was a kid. pine knob was the place for
concerts, and joe louis arena and the silverdome for bigger shows.
that is a good story, thank you.

  as a newcomer to this list, i expected to find an open-minded forum about
music, politics, and the like, considering the fan base of the indigo girls.
it seems, however, that the judgement often runneth over (i.e. angelina
jolie, melissa etheridge, etc.)  i have learned that many of us who could be
some of the most accepting, forgiving, and open-minded people in the world
are also some of the most narrow-minded.  we often rush to judgement and
point the finger when high-profile celebrities don't behave as we think they
should.  it seems many of us are even less forgiving to the out celebs that
don't fit our ideals.  we should be amoung the last to judge the choices of
others that have no effect on our lives whatsoever.

amy

mle's involvement with an organization such as hrc has no impact on me
whatsoever? uh, ok if thats what you believe but she draws people to support
an organization that is trans-phobic, supports anti-choice and anti-woman
candidates and decides to call a march behind closed doors with 5 people
from 3 organizations present for money. that doesn't somehow affect you?

that at one time she supported peta, an organization that would take away
the ability to test aids vaccines and cures? and this has no effect in our
lives? (disclaimer: i am well aware she withdrew her support of peta because
of their stance on animal testing).

i believe that we try to be open-minded enough to realize we are not some
sort of homogenous glob, that there is room for everyone. but i'm beginning
to wonder about that assumption lately.

out celebs have a high level of exposure (hence the term "celebrity") and as
such, carry a high level of responsibility, like it or not. last i checked,
it wasn't a rule in the how to be a human handbook that we like what
everyone else likes.

ryan

> -----original message-----
it seems many of us are even less forgiving to the out
> celebs that
> don't fit our ideals. we should be amoung the last to judge the
> choices of
> others that have no effect on our lives whatsoever.
>
> amy

in a message dated 3/29/00 11:53:20 pm eastern standard time,
hawke2@email.msn.com writes:

<< mle's involvement with an organization such as hrc has no impact on me
whatsoever? uh, ok if thats what you believe but she draws people to support
an organization that is trans-phobic, supports anti-choice and anti-woman
candidates and decides to call a march behind closed doors with 5 people
from 3 organizations present for money. that doesn't somehow affect you? >>

ryan,

could you tell me how many times has the hrc supported anti-choice and
anti-woman candidates and who were they?  i guess one is al d'amato from ny?
also would you happen to know what percentage of transgendered people are
gay, lesbian or bi?  is it more than the average 10%?  i have a tg
friend(ftm) and he is straight and he doesnt feel like the hrc should speak
for him because he is heterosexual.  is hrc transphobic because they don't
include tg people in their mission statement or is there something more
specific they have done?

indi

"mle's involvement with an organization such as hrc has no impact on me
whatsoever? uh, ok if thats what you believe but she draws people to support
an organization that is trans-phobic, supports anti-choice and anti-woman
candidates and decides to call a march behind closed doors with 5 people
from 3 organizations present for money. that doesn't somehow affect you?"

ryan, i appreciate your opinions and repsect your right to voice them.  i
suppose i am not as educated as you on the hrc and their policies and
missions.  however, i have not directly seen any effects that the hrc as had
on my life.  again, i realize that maybe i just am not aware of them and that
is my own fault.  i do know that groups like peta and hrc support a variety
of causes.  it is ok for an individual to support one of their causes and not
others.  i am against the use animals for fur, but as i scientist i know that
they are invaluable in the development of medicine and vaccines to treat
human diseases.  sometimes, we have to chose our battles.  as far as the
people that are drawn to support these groups blindly on the coattails of
celebrities, those are their own mistakes.
     i agree that celebs and public figures do carry responsibility with the
public for their actions.  as for me, i do not know her motivations for
endorsing certain groups.  whatever they are,  i still enjoy her music and
think her to be a wonderful artist.  i certainly do not believe that we
should be a homogenous glob that supports everything and accepts everyone.  i
just cannot make myself become so overwhelmed and preoccupied with the
choices and mistakes that people in the public eye have made that i cease to
enjoy their talents.  i would hate to know that people judged me because i
was once an anti-abortion, close-minded, right-wing conservative.

amy

from: marion o'sullivan@slainte on 30/03/2000 10:20

to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
cc:
subject: ig & ratm may show at rally for mumia

as per sonicnet news

rage, indigo girls may show at rally for mumia abu-jamal

staff writer brian hiatt reports

rock-rappers rage against the machine and folk-rockers the indigo girls are
lending
their support to a may 7 rally in new york for death-row inmate mumia abu-jamal
and
may appear at the event, according to organizers.

the event, a day for mumia, is scheduled to take place in the theater at
madison square
garden. rage and the indigo girls, who have both publicly supported abu-jamal
in the
past, are "lending their name to the event to help us get others," organizer
monica
moorehead said.

both acts have other commitments may 7 but are attempting to alter their
schedules so they can participate in the rally,
moorehead said.

a spokesperson for epic records was unable to confirm the bands' endorsement of
the event but said that it wouldn't be
surprising, given both groups' history of support for abu-jamal.

abu-jamal, a journalist, has been on death row in waynesburg, pa., since he was
convicted of the dec. 9, 1981, murder of
philadelphia police officer daniel faulkner. abu-jamal has proclaimed his
innocence all along, and his supporters claim he
was set up because of his work as a political commentator and his involvement
with the black panther party, a black-activist
organization.

abu-jamal supporters say faulkner's real killer escaped on the night of the
shooting and that evidence that would have
exonerated abu-jamal was withheld during his trial.

rage, who played a controversial benefit concert for abu-jamal in new jersey
last year, mention the case on their single
"guerilla radio" (realaudio excerpt), from their latest album, the battle of
los angeles (1999).

fare thee well my bright star(s)
marion

has anyone else noticed that the colby college show in maine on 4/21 says
"closed, for students only" next to it on the epic site???
what's up with that????? we were all set do do unh and colby the next
night!!!

michelle

i had a teacher in highschool 1993/94 who was from the states, and when she
left she gave me a really poor guality tape that had half of ig self titled
album on it.
i remeber listening to it quite a bit and being taken by emily's voice -
which is exeptionally low on that album, and amy's tried to be true, which i
liked to blast on my car stereo.

then came a period of 3 years when i totally forgot they excisted, until the
summer of 97 when a friend, (she used to be on this list - carolyn turrett -
thank you wherever you might be right now:) at a summer camp reintroduced me
to them, and there was no going back for me...

as for recruiting new ig fans - i havent been too successful on that front.
a lot of my friends like them (which is good considering hardly anyone knows
them here), but there doesn't seem to be any potential serious ig heads
around.

kate
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yeah, can someone send it to me too? i didn't know there was a site,
i'm curious.

thanks,

jean

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yes! i remember watching a few red wing playoff games 2 years ago and
hearing the soy chorus. what a great feeling! since i'm an avid sabres
fan, i still hold out hope that they'll adopt the anthem. unfortunately,
the music selector seems to be stuck in the age of reo speedwagon and
ac/dc. (no offense intended towards fans of either band)

-bon

> hi all....
>    i just wanted to share a small ig moment with you and hope that you find the humor in it, as well.
>    i am an avid nhl hockey fan, particularly a detroit red wing fan since i was born and raised in the suburbs of detroit.
>    about 2 years ago i was blessed with the chance to finally see "my boys" live -- i was able to be at an actual game for the first time.  they play a lot of live music during dead times in the game such as timeouts, penalties, dead plays, etc.  well, the opposing team got called for a penalty and before i knew it, the chorus of "shame on you" was being played over and over again throughout the arena.  besides being completely hillarious for the situation in which it was being played, it was great to hear "my girls" singing while i was watching "my boys."  what a perfect moment.
>    and tonight, as i sit here listening to the game over the internet since i am now doing grad studies in georgia, i hear the song being played in the background again.
>    there is nothing better than a touch of home.  thanks for listening....

kate wrote,
<< as for recruiting new ig fans - i havent been too successful on that
front. >>
..same here, although i find that is true of a lot of the folkier artists i
listen to. i have a colleague at work who didn't care much for a sonia tape i
made and idiot i might have been, i tried again, and gave her a tape of the
new richard shindell record to listen to, and she has yet to listen...three
weeks later!! c'mon, my tastes aren't that off the wall!
deb

indigokat@aol.com wrote:

> also would you happen to know what percentage of transgendered people are
> gay, lesbian or bi? is it more than the average 10%?

so, the hrc shouldn't speak for transgendered people if the numbers are small?

> i have a tg
> friend(ftm) and he is straight and he doesnt feel like the hrc should speak
> for him because he is heterosexual.

that's his choice . . . .as someone living as hetero, he probably feels that he
doesn't need anyone to look out for his rights, because their are no
discriminatory laws or policies against heterosexuals (of which i am aware), but
what about those who need this protection?

elaine

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yes it seems that soy is an anthem of sorts for the sport. i was in tulsa and heard it several times as well as here at a coyotes game....my favorite memory was at a tulsa game with mariah ( then 3 yrs old) and they began to play gotm...she started singing along and said....mom....am and em.....too funny...she still loves em and recognizes most songs by first few chords...

sparkie

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i had a photo of my daughter then under a year with amy and emily when they played the mesa amphitheater in summer with the swamp tour.....
my ex husband was such a $$(*#(@ that the only thing he really took of sentimental value to me was that photo.....all i have now is the memory of it.....i wonder if amy and emily remember the two red heads.....sparkie

has everyone read this. yippy...i am a lesbian. whoo-hoo. i guess that's
good news for my gf

for the whole article check out the link below.

finger lengths may point
to sexual orientation
the index fingers of lesbians tend to be
much shorter than their ring fingers,
whereas on straight women, the fingers
are usually the same length, according to
a new study. (photodisc)

by shawna vogel

                 b o s t o n, march 29 - take a look at your right
                 hand. is your ring finger longer than your index
                 finger? a group of scientists says these finger
                 lengths may provide a hint as to whether you're
                 gay. and this finding, they say, adds to the
                 growing body of evidence that biology at least
                 partly determines sexual orientation.
                      "it's a bit of leap but it's an interesting finding,"
says
                 dr. alan decherney, chairman of the department of
                 obstetrics and gynecology at the university of california,
                 los angeles school of medicine. "and it does validate a
                 biologic phenomenon to explain homosexuality."

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/dailynews/fingerlength000329.html

debbie bolgan
csa ford focus/customer viewpoint
dbolgan@carlsoncanada.com
416-236-8453

wasn't there some study about lesbians and shapes of ear canals awhile back?

interesting article.

well, apparently i'm not, and neither is my girlfriend. it will please my
mom to know that it really isn't her fault.

>>has everyone read this. yippy...i am a lesbian. whoo-hoo. i
guess that's good news for my gf

sorry if this was sent twice

hey everyone,

i'm all caught up woth school now and i'm going to start burning the
hob show for you june/july (i think it said july) people. so if anyone else
wants a copy let me know. also i finally got the austin boots from my friend
but theyre on tape. theyre really good quality so if you ant a copy let me
know also. i know i owe jude, kari, and sheryl.

ok about some boots i want (if anyone has them, i was wondering if anyone
had romeo and juliet and johnny rotten on a cd boot? if you do
please email me.

this is for ryan but i dont have your address so sorry everyone:
i was wondering if you could email me why you dont think that the hrc isnt
doing its job or why its doing a bad job. i have a paper for a gov class and
this girl is all about the hrc and i cant stand her so i want to let her
know what theyre really like. so if you could just let me know some of the
things that theyre doing it would help me out a bunch.

thanks for your time yall,
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it has been my experience over the years on this list that oppinions contrary to the majority are not appreciated. they are several listees however that do appreciate a good exchange of ideas and debate. too many, however, do not. this is true across all topices, ig related (songs, concert experiences, lyrics etc.,) or not.
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hey y'all,

quick question - do album flats exist for self-titled and strange fire? a
friend and former listee is collecting and she is not sure if she is finished
or not!

and if they do exist, any leads on getting them?

thanks,

pam in big d

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i got two more boots (9:30 club) from tara last week and have been meaning to
let y'all know what an awesome job she did on these! the artwork alone (i
think it was a $1 - woohoo) is worth getting these in your collection.

tara - thanks for all the time and effort involved in making these for us. i
have a burner and know how long it takes to burn just one cd...then throw in
printing up (not to mention designing) the artwork...that's a lot of work.
thanks again - you're awesome!

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perhaps i do not completely agree with the specifics, but these words should
be heard by everyone...

"sometimes i ask to sneak a closer look
skip to the final chapter of the book
and then maybe steer us clear from some of the pain it took
to get us where we are this far.
but the question drowns in its futility
even i have got to laugh at me
no one gets to miss the storm of what will be
just holding on for the ride."
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> subject:    media blackout
>
> on thursday, may 27, 1999, darrell scott, the father of  rachel
> scott, a
> victim of the columbine high school shootings in littleton, colorado,
> was
> invited to address the house judiciary committee's sub-committee.
> what he
> said to our national leaders during this special session of congress
> was
> painfully truthful.  they were not prepared for what he was to say,
> nor
> was it recieved well.  it needs to be heard by every parent, every
> teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and
> every so-called expert!
>
> these courageous words spoken by darrell scott are powerful,
> penetrating,
> and deeply personal. there is no doubt that god sent this man as a
> voice
> crying in the wilderness.  the following is a portion of the transcript:
>
> "since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts
> of men and women. we all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of
> violence.  the death of my wonderful daughter, rachel joy scott, and the
> deaths of that heroic teacher, and  the other eleven children who died
> must not be in vain.  their blood cries out for answers."
>
> "the first recorded act of violence was when cain slew his brother abel
> out in the field.   the villain was not the club he used. neither was it
> the nca, the national club association.  the true killer  was cain, and
> the reason for the murder could only be found in cain's heart.  "in the
> days that followed the columbine tragedy, i was amazed at how quickly
> fingers began to be pointed at groups  such as the nra. i am not a member
> of the nra.  i am not a hunter.  i do not even own a gun. i am not here
to
> represent or defend the nra -because i don't believe that they are
> responsible for my daughter's death.   therefore i do not believe that
> they need to be defended.  if i believed they had anything to do with
> rachel's murder i would be their strongest opponent."
>
> "i am here today to declare that columbine was not just a tragedy--it was
> a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real
> blame lies!  much of the blame lies here in this room.  much of the blame
> lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves.
>
> "i wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best.
this
> was written way before i knew i would be speaking here today:"
>
> your laws ignore our deepest needs, your words are empty air.
> you've stripped away our heritage, you've outlawed simple prayer.
> now gunshots fill our classrooms, and precious children die.
> you seek for answers everywhere, and ask the question "why?"
> you regulate restrictive laws, through legislative creed.
> and yet you fail to understand, that god is what we need!
>
> "men and women are three-part beings.  we all consist of  body, soul, and
> spirit.  when we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we
> create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and reek
> havoc.  spiritual influences were present within our educational systems
> for most of our nation's history.  many of our major colleges began as
> theological seminaries.  this is a historical fact.  what has happened to
> us as a nation?  we  have refused to honor god, and in so doing, we open
> the doors to hatred and  violence.  and when something as terrible as
> columbine's tragedy occurs--politicians immediately look for a scapegoat
> such as the nra.  they immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws
that
> contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. we do not
> need more restrictive laws." eric and dylan would not have been stopped
by
> metal detectors.  no amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends
months
> planning this type of massacre. the real villain lies within our own
> hearts. political posturing and restrictive legislation are not the
> answers.
>
> the young people of our nation hold the key.  there is a spiritual
> awakening taking place that will not be squelched!  we do not need more
> religion. we do not need more gaudy television evangelists spewing out
> verbal religious garbage.  we do not need more million dollar church
> buildings built while people with basic needs are being ignored.  we do
> need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgment that this nation was
> founded on the principle of simple trust in god!"
>
> "as my son craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his
> two friends murdered before his very eyes--he did not hesitate to pray in
> school.  i defy any law or politician to deny him that right! i challenge
> every young person in america, and around the world, to realize that on
> april 20, 1999, at columbine high school prayer was brought back to
> our
> schools.  do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in
> vain. dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard
> for
> legislation that violates your god-given right to communicate with
> him.
> to those of you who would point your finger at the nra--i give to you
> a
> sincere challenge. dare to examine your own heart before casting the
> first
> stone!  my daughter's death will not be in vain!  the young people of
> this
> country will not allow that to happen!"
>
>
>
> do what the media did not--let the nation hear this mans speech.
>
>
>
> please send this out to everyone you can!!!
>

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whether one supports or opposes this view is irrelevant. what is relevant is
the list policy not to post such things here. when you have anything of this
nature, tell the list about it & ask for private email to be sent to you
regarding it.

dee

>both acts have other commitments may 7 but are
>attempting to alter their schedules so they can
>participate in the rally, moorehead said.

i think the mumia people are a little too fast to put out the good news.
considering the girls are travelling from florida to do the nashville show
on may 7, it's highly unlikely that they'll make a live appearance in ny
that same day. the only thing i could think of would be a live televised
appearance via satellite. not exactly the same thing as being "at the
rally."

april

   i personally want to thank whoever sent this across the list.  what an amazing article to read and i feel fortunate that i was able read such a wonderful speech and share in this man's thoughts.
   whether you agree or dissagree to mr. scott's words, we still should feel fortunate enough to have the opportunity to share in another person's expressions through the use of technology.
   this list is a forum for sharing and expressing.  there will never be a time when everyone agrees with what was posted.  if you don't agree, simply delete.  i don't think anyone tied you to your computer and made you read the whole thing.
   here's the human spirit and our ability to rationalize.

kato

hmmmm.  my right hand's index & ring fingers are the same length, while my
left hand's index finger is quite visibly shorter...  so, what then, am i?
bisexual? ambisexual?  perhaps just confused?

too funny.

does this remind anyone else of the medieval method of determining werewolves
by the length of the toes?

in a message dated 3/30/00 5:37:27 pm, kato1771@aol.com wrote:

<<this list is a forum for sharing and expressing. there will never be a
time when everyone agrees with what was posted. >>

i have no argument that the post is probably appreciated by a great many
members of this list. i simply stated that the way it was posted was not the
appropriate way to do so.

<<if you don't agree, simply delete. i don't think anyone tied you to your
computer and made you read the whole thing.
here's the human spirit and our ability to rationalize.>>

i will also take this opportunity to remind those that read this that the
reason for the policy to not forward things in their entirity to the list is
for those people who are subscribed to the digest format. they cannot
delete. they must scroll thru lengthy forwards.

i'm glad you gained something positive from reading it, but my post was to
remind listees not to forward everything they feel others should read. the
way to do it is simple. post a summary and invite those interested to email
you privately for more info.

dee

on thu, 30 mar 2000, bolgan, debbie wrote:

> finger lengths may point to sexual orientation
> the index fingers of lesbians tend to be
> much shorter than their ring fingers,

hey, i'm a lesbian!
who woulda thunk it?

darius

oh sure, it seems funny. til you've got villagers running after you with torches
trying to grab your feet and you're itching all over and you can't quite remember

where you were on the last night of the full moon.

i don't know if my girlfriend's a werewolf, but i can rest secure in the knowlege

that my fingers are deeply queer. or something.

glenda capps wrote:

> hmmmm.  my right hand's index & ring fingers are the same length, while my
> left hand's index finger is quite visibly shorter...  so, what then, am i?
> bisexual? ambisexual?  perhaps just confused?
>
> too funny.
>
> does this remind anyone else of the medieval method of determining werewolves
> by the length of the toes?
>
> gc
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strange... i never got that post. what was it all about?

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on thu, 30 mar 2000, kristen curry wrote:

> oh sure, it seems funny. til you've got villagers running after you
> with torches trying to grab your feet and you're itching all over and
> you can't quite remember where you were on the last night of the full
> moon.

it's all fun and games until somebody bites the silver bullet.

lesbian werewolves. that's a *phat* name for a band!

darius

hkf's,

two new summer dates i saw on pollstar:
06/17/00 clarkston, mi pine knob music theatre
06/19/00 interlochen, mi interlochen center

plus i updated the asheville info. as well as indicating the colby show is
open to the public and on sale thru bull moose music stores. please see my
site for the updates and let us know if you have any more info. thanks!

ps: tracy chapman - great show last night at the tabernacle in atl.  not as
good as some other shows i've seen there (achemm, saliers & ray) - but a
pretty fun show w/ lots of energy from the crowd, even for a pretty mellow
show.  tracy's b-day is today!  so we were all cheering for her and making
her embarassed, kind-of.  she couldn't get a word in it was sometimes so
loud w/ cheering...  pretty funny stuff lemme tell ya.

a+e=ig

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kristen curry wrote:

> oh sure, it seems funny
> kc

i just cracked up when i read this part because i immediately thought of that old
saying my mom used to say to us kids "it's funny now until somebody puts an eye
out". stupid saying, isn't it? - did anyone else's mom say this to them?

elaine

howdy.
boy am i excited...24 hours! :) i'm leaving central ohio to get to eku about
2pm. this doesn't sound too early or too late to anyone, does it? i really
want to be close to the stage. all of you going to the show, want to meet up
in line? get a group of us up front? i don't really know what i'll be
wearing...overalls maybe? i don't plan that far ahead. well, probably
(hopefully) i'll just be one of the few people in line. see you there!
peace,
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we ought to be careful about putting too much stock into all this. this is an excerpt from the age, in melbourne, australia, which seems to draw the opposite conclusion, if i'm reading this correctly. didn't the abc thing say you're gay if they are not the same length?
deb
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the forefinger on the right hand can indicate
whether a person is homosexual, lesbian or heterosexual, according to a
study published in today's issue of nature, the british science weekly.
researchers at the university of california at berkeley say the relative
lengths of the forefinger and the fourth finger can provide a pointer to
sexual orientation. the more alike the length, the higher the likelihood of
being gay.

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in a message dated 3/30/00 11:59:02 am eastern standard time, bean@neu.edu
writes:

<< > also would you happen to know what percentage of transgendered people are
> gay, lesbian or bi? is it more than the average 10%?

so, the hrc shouldn't speak for transgendered people if the numbers are
small? >>

did i say that? no, i just asked a question. there was no statement.
please don't assume anything more than that because you would be incorrect.

indi

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i know that this can be used to prove genetics, but on the other hand, it
can be used to prove genetics (and the possibility of modifications to
genetic patterns),
i am not by nature paranoid about this stuff, but i still have severe doubts
about how this kind of information gets funded/used. ya know there are
enough people out there who would like to be able to identify glbt folk for
a whole nother reason than to simply provide an argument for genetics over
upbringing.

thanks for pointing out the article, heaps interesting.

sandy

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well i never imagined that racism and other prejudices were going to be a
profile of this list when i first joined either, but of late its just about
all i have had in the way of personal mail from folk on this list.  this has
been my first mailing list where people have been openly racist in private
mail and thought there was nothing wrong with it.  it did start to make me
wonder about just how reactionary some of the members are, not the majority
i hope, but of course have no way of knowing.  the simple truth is that just
cos someone likes the indigo girls doesnt mean that they arent racist or
prejudiced, or that they are lefties.

sandy

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>date: thu, 30 mar 2000 4:55 pm
>

> it has been my experience over the years on this list that oppinions
> contrary to the majority are not appreciated.  they are several listees
> however that do appreciate a good exchange of ideas and debate.  too many,
> however, do not.  this is true across all topices, ig related (songs,
> concert experiences, lyrics etc.,) or not.
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you just reminded me of my old sig line...

"sure it's funny, til somebody gets hurt...
then it's just hilarious."

i will be the first to admit i'm one sick puppy.
so gimme the finger.
kc

elaine bean wrote:

> kristen curry wrote:
>
> > oh sure, it seems funny
> > kc
>
> i just cracked up when i read this part because i immediately thought of that old
> saying my mom used to say to us kids "it's funny now until somebody puts an eye
> out". stupid saying, isn't it? - did anyone else's mom say this to them?
>
> elaine

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in a message dated 3/30/00 12:50:35 pm eastern standard time,
ctofine2@aol.com writes:

<< wasn't there some study about lesbians and shapes of ear canals awhile
back?

interesting article. >>

i believe it was actually on the ability of lesbians and men to hear subtle
sounds or clicks not the actual shape of the ear. i could be wrong though.

indi

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>>i believe it was actually on the ability of lesbians and men to hear
> subtle
> sounds or clicks not the actual shape of the ear. i could be wrong
> though<<

geez, and all this time i thought i had a cricket in my ear... ;-)

jean

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kristen curry said:

"i will be the first to admit i'm one sick puppy.
so gimme the finger.
kc"

which one would you like? the shorter ring fingers or the longer ones?
*lol* i couldn't help it!

*runs*
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***this post has nothing at all to do with the indigo girls.****

if any one has info about madison, wis temporary housing/dorms/sublets/etc,
or any tips for a college-age type looking to move there, please email me.
thanks,
mel w.
if this nigc ig list post have offended, think but this and all is
mended...that you have but slumbered here...while this nigc post did
appear... else the mel liar call (:

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sorry for the nigc, but i am working on a school paper, and wanted to ask my
friends (you!) for some help!  my paper is on television and how far
networks will go to get you to watch, and how far is too far.
if you would like to help, please email me privately with your favorite tv
shows and why you watch.  i need some info about why you watch it, ie:
character appeal, symapthy for character, situations, humor, drama,
educational, creative plot, action, etc...
with television being such a vast medium, going into millions of homes world
wide, many people don't realize that it is an intimite medium as well.  your
life has somehow been touched or changed by something you have seen on
television.  let me know your thoughts on tv and it's role in society!
thanks for your time
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back in '92 or '93, when i was in middle school, i went to sunfest (south
florida's art and music festival) with my parents -well, my mother and her
partner, i should say- and i sat through this concert of someone called
the indigo girls.  i enjoyed myself, but mostly i watched the gay guys
dancing in the audience. hee hee.  a couple of years later, when i started
to love ig, i realized that i had gone to my first concert before i even
knew who they were.  i kicked myself a few times, of course.  and now, lo
and behold, they return to sunfest this year to redeem me of my missed
experience.  and i promise that this time, i will not be watching the gay
guys dance.

yippeee!! i am so excited i can barely contain myself.

-emily

"if it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?"

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nope! can't use ticket mistress....that's my domme name....
lol....just kidding!

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    evening all, i do hope everyone is doing well tonight. those of us  down
here in good'ol texas are cleaning up and recovering slowly from tuesdays
tornado. nothing like a diving into the tub during a good scary tornado to
get the adrenaline flowing!
  alas i digress, i'm writing to ask anyone in the atlanta area or anywhere
for that matter who knows how to get to eddie's attic for directions. monday
night i'll be coming into atlanta from i-85 and i'd like to go to eddie's to
hear a friend and former listee do open mic night.  that's this monday night
april 3rd and i'm sure she'd kill me if she knew
i was posting this but for those of you in the atlanta area that remeber
chee hill she's supposed to preform monday night, i figure hell i'll be
passing through it should be a fun set so common out and cheer her on if ya
can.  of course never tell her i told you guys about it this means you too
jason!!  lol  ok so if anyone can help with directions please e-mail me
privately.

take care,
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shelter fast", not go look out your sliding doors as patio chairs slam
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i just got an e-mail from epic stating that the girls will be performing at
wellsley college on april 18th.  does anyone have any info on this show??
i tried their web-site and found nothing.  thanks!
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-kristin

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is it just me, or does everyone that listens to this song in their car looks
down at the turn signal to make sure it's not on? there's this faint ticking
in that durn song and i know that's what it is but i subconsciously look down
at my dash to make sure that my signal is on....

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do any of you guys know who is opening the jacksonville show on the 2nd? any
help would be appreciated!
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oh my god!!!
i thought i was the only one that hears noises in that song
i 'm hearing like two light knocks (kinda like a bongo drum) during
the pause after one of the chorus bits (i think it's the one just before
the bridge) and it freaked me out one day because i thought my car was
knocking, or maybe i ran over something. i couldn't figure it out up
until i was home and heard it . now i pretty much expect it but still
catches me off guard sometimes.

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<< re: fwd: [talk-s7] fw: media blackout.. please read & don't delete

strange... i never got that post. what was it all about?
>>

it was about allowing prayer in public high schools. yeehaw. not that
separation of church and state means anything these days anyway...

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i seem to recall when i had a copy of the ppv concert that was broadcast
that *someone* in the indigo girls had an acoustic amp? acoustic amps can
almost always be identified cos they have a sort of poo-brown casing (i
don't know if that is the technical colour of the casing, but you know what
i mean). can anyone confirm or deny? i had a feeling it was a crate, but
it could have been one of those erky fender acoustic amps (which sound yummy
but mess up all the time). if anyone can confirm the brown-ness that would
be great.

ta,
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o.k., i must be having a really slow day, because
here i sit in my cube staring at my fingers.

on my left hand, my ring finger is shorter, but on
my right, they both look the same. so, what does
that make me?

cathy

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i recall it had something to do with earaches. perhaps lesbians had more
inner ear infections or that the inner ear canal is shaped differently
(more horizontal than vertical.)

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> << wasn't there some study about lesbians and shapes of ear canals
> awhile
> back?
>
>  interesting article. >>
>
>
> i believe it was actually on the ability of lesbians and men to hear
> subtle
> sounds or clicks not the actual shape of the ear.  i could be wrong
> though.
>
> indi
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ok making this up as i go along, like all good scientific data gathering:

both left and right ring fingers being longer than your index finger makes
you a lesbian.

both left and right ring fingers being shorter than your index finger makes
you entirely heterosexual with no hope of a change of teams.

right hand ring finger being shorter than index finger makes you at least
five inches shorter than the girl you appeared next to in your fifth class
school photo. left hand ring finger being shorter than index finger means
you will grow old not really knowing whether the indigo girls ever did feel
the need to replace the line 'leave the figuring to those we meet on the way
out of town' to 'give the finger to those we meet on the way out of town' at
any of their myriad of concerts.

i hope that has cleared up any sexual/digital confusion that anyone has had
over this ethically sound and medically provable theory of the fingers.

sandy (i am a doctor of something and yet again i prove that it clearly
isn't medicine).

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>from: catherine spinale <catherine.spinale@pmn.com>
>to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
>subject: finger length
>date: fri, 31 mar 2000 6:29 pm
>

> o.k., i must be having a really slow day, because
> here i sit in my cube staring at my fingers.
>
> on my left hand, my ring finger is shorter, but on
> my right, they both look the same.  so, what does
> that make me?
>
> cathy
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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 10:45:47 -0600
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anyone know when the ravin6/20 ravinia/ highland park il tickets go on sale?

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ok, are we supposed to take this finger length thing seriously?  because to
me it all seems like some sort of a joke.  people have this incredible need
to explain everything that they can't or won't understand.  for instance, my
mother, who has tried so very hard to deal with my coming out to her for four
years, doesn't understand butch lesbians.  i, myself, personally, am a huge
fan of lea delaria's and my mother always looks at her, when i'm watching her
on tv or when i happen to have a picture of her, and asks me questions like,
"why don't women just date men if they're going to date women who look like
men?" or "i don't get it.  i mean, she's very ugly, lori."  and no matter how
many times i sit down and have an open, honest discussion (oh joy) about it
with her, she refuses to understand it.  i have come to realize that it all
goes back to this: sometimes you don't need to understand something fully in
order to accept it and to be okay with it.

this all goes back to the finger length thing.  it truly angers me that
people are sitting there doing massive studies on the finger length of people
in relation to their sexualities when aids and cancer still don't have cures
and there are starving, homeless people out there.  if they want to do
something to help the glbt community, then instead of looking at people's
finger sizes, help out the kids who come out to their parents everyday and
then have nowhere to live, no one to turn to, and not a single positive adult
rolemodel in the world.  that is why this finger length thing really annoys
me.

-lori

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 10:55:22 -0500
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on fri, 31 mar 2000, digest anonymous wrote:

> is it just me, or does everyone that listens to this song in their car looks
> down at the turn signal to make sure it's not on? there's this faint ticking
> in that durn song and i know that's what it is but i subconsciously look down
> at my dash to make sure that my signal is on....

   yep!
   but shame on you is far worse -- it seems that 90% of my time gets
spent behind the wheel of my gmc sonoma (work,class,fencing,work,class,
fencing), and of course when soy is on, it usually prompts me to drive at
breakneck-although-not-quite-born-to-run speeds, and at the choice moment
in the song, you hear that police siren.
   *every time* i freak out, hit the breaks, and scan all my mirrors for
that bastard ny state trooper who somehow got in under my radar screen.

darius

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mesopotamia. but the most recent theological studies put it about 10
miles south of jersey city, just off the jersey turnpike."
- bruce springsteen

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hi everyone,

there are a couple of very important shows in the next week for lift and
their fans in the atlanta area. come show your support!!

saturday, april 1
10:00 pm
smith's olde bar, atlanta, ga (with seely & stb)
1522 piedmont rd. (upstairs)
404-875-1522

and a free show!!!
saturday, april 8
doors @4:30pm, lift plays promptly at 5:00pm
smith's olde bar, atlanta, ga

this is a special record label showcase, and they'd love everyone to come out
and support them. the show is free, and there will be free munchies!

also, sigc: they will be playing at a couple of the daemon 10 year tour
dates in may. check out their website for more info.

thanks!
=)
lisa

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 22:27:44 +0400
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i agree with ya lori, its one of the reasons that we need to highlight just
how lame it is, just how tricky it is to engage in this kind of deductive
approach to sexuality (which is why the 'gay' gene pisses me off). i don't
think anyone (even the guy from ucla who commented on it) thinks we should
take it seriously. the only serious aspect is that anyone would think this
has merit, or can be used to determine something that is far more amorphous
than can be written down in a wee dissertation.

sandy

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>from: lori feldstein <indigoanid@aol.com>
>to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
>subject: re: finger length - this is long, but i would appreciate it if you'd
read it.
>date: fri, 31 mar 2000 10:00 pm

> ok, are we supposed to take this finger length thing seriously?  because to
> me it all seems like some sort of a joke.  people have this incredible need
> to explain everything that they can't or won't understand.  for instance, my
> mother, who has tried so very hard to deal with my coming out to her for four
> years, doesn't understand butch lesbians.  i, myself, personally, am a huge
> fan of lea delaria's and my mother always looks at her, when i'm watching her
> on tv or when i happen to have a picture of her, and asks me questions like,
> "why don't women just date men if they're going to date women who look like
> men?" or "i don't get it.  i mean, she's very ugly, lori."  and no matter how
> many times i sit down and have an open, honest discussion (oh joy) about it
> with her, she refuses to understand it.  i have come to realize that it all
> goes back to this: sometimes you don't need to understand something fully in
> order to accept it and to be okay with it.
>
> this all goes back to the finger length thing.  it truly angers me that
> people are sitting there doing massive studies on the finger length of people
> in relation to their sexualities when aids and cancer still don't have cures
> and there are starving, homeless people out there.  if they want to do
> something to help the glbt community, then instead of looking at people's
> finger sizes, help out the kids who come out to their parents everyday and
> then have nowhere to live, no one to turn to, and not a single positive adult
> rolemodel in the world.  that is why this finger length thing really annoys
> me.
>
> -lori
>

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 14:27:04 -0500
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hkf's,

check my website - all the new dates / current dates are on there as of
right now! let me know if you have any info to add - you all have been
great!!!

here's brand new from tm:

07/25/00 san diego, ca  humphreys concerts by the bay
07/26/00 san diego, ca  humphreys concerts by the bay
onsale:  04/01/00 - 10:00am  (619)220-8497 (local tm)

that's it... have a happy weekend... i've got susan tedeschi, derek
trucks, no doubt, and then widespread panic all te next three days!!!
anyone else in atl going to these?

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 12:52:16 -0800
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back to the craziness.

as i have discovered a way to share mp3s through aol
instant messenger, have all sorts of rare ig goodies,
and have remerged frommy mounds of homework (for now),
i'm making the offer again. all you have to do is im
<julielibes> and tell me you're from the ig list. i'll
let you know what to do from there.

much love,
julie :);):)

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this happens to me when i listen to "like the way i do" by mle.  when i'm
listening to this song in my car i always think that my car phone is
ringing.  even when i hear the ring at the beginning of the song, think it's
my phone and then realize it's not, about 30 seconds later i'll hear the
sound again and think (again) that it's my phone.  i seriously go through
this about four times during the course of the song!  oh, well, i love that
song.
lisa

>oh my god!!!
>i thought i was the only one that hears noises in that song

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 12:46:38 -0800
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tually, it was the shape of the inner ear of lesbians.
they found that it as closer to that of men then to
that of other women.

julie :);):)

--- jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>i believe it was actually on the ability of
> lesbians and men to hear
> > subtle
> > sounds or clicks not the actual shape of the ear.
> i could be wrong
> > though<<
>
> geez, and all this time i thought i had a cricket in
> my ear... ;-)
>
> jean
>
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my index finger is just a little shorter then my ring finger. my sisters =
is the same way, but she is straight. so i do not think the study is =
accurate. missy

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i know cathy, i'm having the same problem. according
to my fingers (which are pretty much the same length)
i'm straight or something. which is so not true. this
is silly.

on the other hand this is good for arguing with the
people who think that homosexuality is a choice and/or
a behavior. physiological differences always help in
arguments such as these. esp me with that
fundamentalist christian brother (imagine what a joy
he is).

back to procrastinating homework by dowloading loads
of tori mp3s off napster,
julie :)

--- catherine spinale <catherine.spinale@pmn.com>
wrote:
> o.k., i must be having a really slow day, because
> here i sit in my cube staring at my fingers.
>
> on my left hand, my ring finger is shorter, but on
> my right, they both look the same. so, what does
> that make me?
>
> cathy

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 12:53:09 -0700
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and if you wear an earring in your right ear, you're gay...or is it your
left? i don't think i ever got that cleared up...or maybe it's both.

does anyone else recall this ridiculous theory from middle school? (well,
when i was in middle school anyway...about 6 years ago.) i wonder what
sort of "scientific study" that was based on.

by the bye, i'm proud to announce that i, too, am a lesbian and i think my
dad is too! now, isn't that exciting?

amy m.

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intimate strangers...

anyone going to no doubt tomorrow night at the roxy in atl? i might be
going solo to the show and was wondering if anyone was going... also i
might have an extra ticket, so let me know about that as well.

after 5pm today - e-mail me at my address at home:
begonias15@yahoo.com

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yeah, well according to this study i am very gay. which is not at all the
case! so it is all a farce.
:)
have a good weekend ig lovers!

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hehehe....i just wanted to say that when i went back up to pa to go to
school i was driving down the road a bit fast i guess! see, i got a bit too
used to hearing that siren in soy apparently, cuz, while driving, and that
song playing, of course i heard sirens, and , well, they werent just in the
song!! i didnt stop right away cuz i thought it was just the song..it wasnt
until the cop pulled up right next to me on the road and pointed to the
shopping center for me to pull in there w/ lots of not so happy expressions
on his face did i relize that...um...that siren was for me!! hehehehe..i
just had to share!! its amazing how the 'girls impact all aspects of my
life!!!

............"blue lights flashin down the (word?) road"...............
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hey!

i am leaving southcentral ohio right now for the eku show. i am wearing a violet button down shirt, jeans, and teva flip flops. look for me! i should be there around 5!

:-) karen

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yeah, well my dad is bi and my mom is a lesbian and i'm straight... so there!
wonderful study they did... i'm sorry... i'm a little upset about this, can
you tell?
-lori

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from: "cara klein" <cowsrule52@hotmail.com>
to: indigo-girls@infospace.org
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date: thu, 23 mar 2000 13:20:36 pst
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hi all. sorry for the nigc but i just have a quick question. wonderin if
anyone lives in the raleigh/durham/chapel hill are of nc that has access
(and now how) for recording a cd? my best friend is in incredible
singer/songwriter and wants to put a cd together for distrubution (hopefully
to deamon records!) but she does not have the equipment and cannot afford to
go to a studio. she has an old demo she got to record for free but only cuz
the guy i contacted happen to have a son that was crazy mad about the
university of north carolina lady tar heels b-ball team (of which she was
on) and as long as she gave him an autographed copy of what ended up being
the national champs media guide for that year she wouldnt have to pay for
the recording. it was decent but its old and not worthy of distrabution.
she is out of school now and doesnt have that status anymore so she wont be
gettin anything for free now!! if this is relevant to anyone here, please
please please please email me privately!!!! thank you so much!!

.........."learn to trust a stranger and stop and rest for a while"....
ig
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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 17:42:48 est
reply-to:     bbelbis@aol.com
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from:         bbelbis@aol.com
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hey luscious jackson fans,

i just ran across this on the internet.....that really stinks!

brian

luscious jackson calls it a day?

march 30, 2000, 12:10 pm pt

after four albums of raucous, street-savvy
electronic-influenced hip-hop, luscious jackson has
decided to call it a day, according to a source close
to the band. capitol/grand royal records released what
is now the group's curtain call, electric honey, in
1999. there was no word where vocalist/bassist jill
cunniff, vocalist/guitarist gabby glaser, and drummer
kate shellenbach will go from here, as the band's pr
firm, nasty little man, as well as a spokesperson for
the band at atlas/third rail, the band's management
company, had no comment at press time.

luscious jackson emerged from the same early-'80s new
york scene that spawned the beastie boys (shellenbach
was a drummer in an early b-boys hardcore lineup) and
caught the attention of the underground on their 1992
debut ep, in search of manny, on the beastie boy's
grand royal imprint. the group garnered critical
praise
for their 1993 debut, natural ingredients, for their
spastic m�nage of street-wise hip-hop, underground
electronic beats, and savvy, alt-rock and pop guitars
and vocals. fever in fever out followed in 1996,
featuring the minor hit "naked eye." in 1998,
keyboardist vivian trimble left the group to pursue
other projects, narrowing the lineup to a trio for
last year's electronic honey.

in related news, atlantic records will release the
self-titled debut from trimble's new project, dusty
trails, on may 9. dusty trails also includes
ex-breeders bassist josephine wiggs, and also features
some help from trimble's ex-bandmates. cunniff
sings and co-wrote one track, "roll the dice," and
shellenbach helps out on drums here and there
throughout the record.

-- kevin raub

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subject:      re: finger length - that tricky digital furtherance :)
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i'd like to know how many straight women on the list examined themselves for
this condition ;)

jude :)

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date:         sat, 1 apr 2000 00:32:03 +0100
reply-to:     john bond <john.bond@lineone.net>
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from:         john bond <john.bond@lineone.net>
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and having fingers all the same length makes it very likely you will one
day be featured in national geographic.

(and no, i don't know where that one came from.....)

john.

at 21:51 31/03/00 +0400, you wrote:
>ok making this up as i go along, like all good scientific data gathering:
>
>both left and right ring fingers being longer than your index finger makes
>you a lesbian.
>
>both left and right ring fingers being shorter than your index finger makes
>you entirely heterosexual with no hope of a change of teams.
>
>right hand ring finger being shorter than index finger makes you at least
>five inches shorter than the girl you appeared next to in your fifth class
>school photo. left hand ring finger being shorter than index finger means
>you will grow old not really knowing whether the indigo girls ever did feel
>the need to replace the line 'leave the figuring to those we meet on the way
>out of town' to 'give the finger to those we meet on the way out of town' at
>any of their myriad of concerts.

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