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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 19:14:26 est
reply-to:     kisha1976@aol.com
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from:         kisha munson <kisha1976@aol.com>
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in a message dated 3/31/00 8:11:30 pm atlantic standard time,
listserv@netspace.org writes:

<<  attn: luscious jackson fans (nigc) >>
yeah, i heard about this today. i am highly upset. they were an absolutely
fun band.

xo
kisha

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 20:15:27 est
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a question to those of you who have been to the crosby stills nash and young
concert...how long was the show?, was there an opener?  any information would
be appreciated, thanks for your time and sorry for the nigc.

carla  :o)

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 20:19:48 est
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subject:      re: finger length - earaches
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wow..i had ear infections all the time when i was a kid...i even had tubes in
my ears twice...it's good to know i am true to form because my ring fingers
are also longer than my index...no matter what body part you look at i am
definitely gay... woo hoo

carla  :o)

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 17:29:49 -0800
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just a quick note - although i don't agree with the finger-length study, i
do, as a scientist, feel the need to point out one thing... studies like
this measure *trends*, not hard and fast rules... so the question is not do
all lesbians have such-and-such a trait, and all straight women not have
it, but do statistically more lesbians have it than straight women, and do
the data pass certain statistical tests that confirm this...

shannon

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"i am certain of nothing but the holiness of the heart's
affections and the truth of imagination"          -rilke

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 21:10:22 est
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hey everyone--

i'm doing an internship in nyc in may for 2 weeks...if anyone up there wants
to meet up or just knows some fun things to do, please e mail me!  also, let
me know of good concerts and lesbian places to hang!

thanks
r

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 21:17:50 est
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a review of last night's show from the chicago maroon (college paper)
(http://www.chicagomaroon.com)

march 31, 2000
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indigo girls play sold-out show at mandel
    postponed mab concert a success
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lisa n. taverna
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thursday night's indigo girls concert filled mandel hall to standing-room
only capacity with over 1,000 enthusiastic university of chicago students.
the major activities board (mab) was forced to cancel its first scheduling of
the concert because indigo girl amy ray had appendicitis. members of mab
believe that the rescheduled concert was one of the best shows that it has
staged in the last few years.

"i was very impressed with the energy onstage and in the audience," said
jeremy taub, a 3rd-year and mab's talent buyer, who finds and schedules the
acts. "there was enthusiasm all around."

during the sold-out concert, the indigo girls, emily saliers and amy ray,
played a strong 15-song set that lasted an hour and fifteen minutes.
beginning with the folksy "get out the map," emily and amy played songs
ranging from loud, crazy tunes like "chickenman" to the pensive "philosophy
of loss." although their onstage banter, like their music, was usually upbeat
and witty, emily became sentimental when she dedicated the song "power of
two" to her grandmother, who passed away last week.

the concert ended with the ubiquitous "closer to fine." at the audience's
enthusiastic request, the girls returned to the stage to encore with "jonas
and ezekial" and "galileo."

"the set list was awesome," said liz greenbaum, a 3rd-year in the college.
"it was amazing - the energy was up throughout the concert."

the opening band was not received with the same excitement. the two-woman
band, mrs. fun, featured a laid-back sound with an abundance of solo
drumming, but their sound was not as strong as the indigo girls'.

"they were worse than my ex-roomate in the shower," said erin archer, a
4th-year in the college.

amy and emily joined mrs. fun for two songs entitled "undecided" and
"everyone wants to be somebody else's lover."

there was a half-hour interim between acts, but no one seemed to lose the
spirit. when the indigo girls took the stage, they were greeted with wild
applause.

contact with the audience played a major role in the performance and added a
personal touch to the show. amy continuously thanked the doctors in the
audience who removed her appendix and excised a benign ovarian cist. the
girls turned the lights over to the audience more than once, prompting a
raucous sing-along.

admission to the concert was $20, but students were not complaining about the
price or the venue.

"it seemed a little high for a mab show, but it was worth it for the indigo
girls," said jen insley, a 3rd-year in the college. "i'm happy to pay it. i'd
probably pay more at a major venue and i'd be sitting far away. this kind of
private venue is wonderful."

according to taub, mab is anticipating a big program this quarter. he is
happy that the indigo girls concert had such a great turnout.

"we brought in all kinds of students," taub said. "it was just a huge
success."

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 22:38:07 -0500
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i am the only one who gets annoyed by people who can't keep amy and emily
straight? they don't really look the same or sound the same...
right?

(o:,'
megan


although their onstage banter, like their music, was usually upbeat
and witty, emily became sentimental when she dedicated the song "power of
two" to her grandmother, who passed away last week.

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 21:30:36 est
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i found a few more old articles on the univ of chicago website......... (and
i just noticed that they called amy emily in the last one, and i see quite a
few errors in these too........ so i guess they aren't all
perfect.............)

=)
lisa
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amy saliers ready to rock
chicago maroon
susan gaunt
come on now voices
february 22, 2000
ever since they were in college, amy ray and emily saliers, better known as
the indigo girls, have been immensely popular among college students. their
appeal has stemmed from intelligent lyrics, soulful music, boundless
enthusiasm, and the audience's identification with their message and their
music. this saturday, february 26th, the indigo girls are the featured
artists at the major activities board's winter concert. in an interview on
february 18, i spoke with amy ray about both the indigo girls and about the
upcoming concert here at mandel hall. as we spoke over the phone, amy ray
remained down-to-earth, friendly, relaxed, and confident.

ray doesn't think of herself as famous. in spite of the indigo girls'
success, which includes six grammy nominations and the sale of over seven
million copies of their cds, she still sees herself as just a songwriter and
performer. she started noticing something was different in 1991 when "people
i didn't know started showing up at [her] door and stuff started disappearing
from the lawn." it was two years before this that the indigo girls' first
mainstream hit, "closer to fine," was released, the lyrics of which discuss
something near and dear to all of our hearts. "i went to see the doctor of
philosophy/ with a poster of rasputin and a beard down to his knee/ he never
did marry or see a b-grade movie/ he graded my performance, he said he could
see through me/ i spent four years prostrate to the higher mind, got my
paper/ and i was free," they proclaim, in an incredibly apt description of
college life. both ray and saliers transferred to emory university in atlanta
from vanderbilt college and tulane respectively, so i asked ray how useful
she felt her liberal arts education has been in her current career as a
songwriter and performer. ray studied english and religion, and looking back
on it, she realizes that what she learned in college was how to see things
from different perspectives and about imagery which, she added with a laugh,
she wasn't able to apply right away.

for ray, college was not just a time for study, but also very important
musically. ray and saliers performed all over the university, at the college
bar, at coffee houses - there was always somewhere to put on a show. for the
indigo girls, college provided a time to find an audience that would remain
loyal following their graduation, as well as an opportunity to develop
lyrics, song-writing skills, and creativity while performing in front of
friends. ray spoke of how college provided an "instant community" as she and
saliers performed before "peers held captive."

ray says of songwriting that "she is driven to do it," which can be evidenced
by the lyrics she produces. heavily political messages flow throughout the
indigo girls' works, rarely more evident than on their latest cd, come on now
social. early twenties angst has been supplanted by a more mature perception
of the world and to accompany it, a new sound. the current direction of the
indigo girls is away from their earlier folk background (their self-titled
debut album won the 1989 grammy for best contemporary folk recording), but it
does not abandon those roots completely. the indigo girls are lucky enough to
have a devoted fan following, "an audience that is willing to go with it,"
that has supported them in this shift while still being nostalgically
affectionate of the older songs.

ray especially is trying something new as she is currently working on her
first solo album, which she hopes to complete sometime this fall. ray is
enjoying working alone and is understandably nervous and excited about the
project. so far, the three songs recorded for the album are largely about
"gender issues," and ray characterizes the album as being more punk than the
indigo girls releases have been to date. she has been working with the
butchies, a punk group signed with mr. lady records. she is enthusiastic
about the project and believes that working on independent projects will make
the indigo girls better. she is confident that the indigo girls will remain a
duo despite individual directions.

one of ray's projects over the past several years has been daemon records, an
indie record label which is celebrating its tenth anniversary this spring.
ray started the company wanting it to remain in the indie community. so far
the label, which includes mostly punk and folk artists (including liz phair
who performed at mab's spring concert), has been doing well. the "biggest
hurdle," as ray sees it, has been that the folk performers tend to do well
while the punk performers have had more difficulty, largely because the label
is associated with the folk sound of the indigo girls. ray sees this
identification as being indicative of a larger trend in mainstream rock press
of labeling female performers based on the first thing they hear them
perform. ray feels that women in recording are not given the "opportunity to
reinvent themselves" and are critiqued more heavily by the press and are
often judged upon their appearance. she feels that for the indigo girls the
recording business is now "better than it was" because of "us working our
butts off."

the indigo girls are an extremely political group and support a number of
causes, among them environmentalist groups, especially indigenous groups,
groups that are concerned with feminist issues and gay rights. "the older we
get, the more outspoken we become," says ray, which is evident especially in
come on now social; the song "trouble," for instance: "i pledge my allegiance
to the dollar/ and when the clergy take a vote all the gays will pay again/
one day the war will stop and we'll grow a peaceful crop/ and a girl can get
a wife and we can bring you back to life." the indigo girls support grass
roots movements and donate time and talent to a number of causes, including
honor the earth, an environmental and human rights group, and to a number of
organizations working to abolish sexual-orientation prejudices, including the
national gay and lesbian task force.

but while their politics are a fundamental part of what the indigo girls are
about, they are also serious about their music. so what can we expect from
the indigo girls' concert on saturday? well, the concert will be entirely
acoustic, so don't go expecting a full band. opening for the indigo girls is
rose polenzani, a singer-songwriter signed by ray's daemon records that has
played at lilith fair and opened for the indigo girls on their latest tour.
ray says the concert will be an equal mix of old and new material, and they
will be willing to take requests. their show on saturday night should be an
excellent performance by an extremely talented band; take the opportunity, if
you can, to check out the concert because the indigo girls are great live.

polenzani to open for indigo girls at mab show
cwn
wei-woan lee
cwn contributing writer
february 24, 2000
the sold-out indigo girls concert sponsored by the major activities board
(mab), which will be taking place this saturday, is also featuring an up and
coming singer/songwriter named rose polenzani.

polenzani, who is a chicago native currently living in santa barbara, got her
big break playing at the newport folk festival which earned her a ticket to
tour with the lilith fair in 1998. indigo girl amy ray took notice of
polenzani's talents and signed the vocalist to her label (daemon records)
despite the long-standing "southern artists only" rule of ray's recording
company.

"no one can touch rose; she exists on a level all her own --botanical love
songs, dark histories-- as holy as mystic, as profane as your perverted
fantasies," ray said.

polenzani's latest release, titled "anybody," is an assortment of her earlier
home and studio recordings. similar to her debut album, "dragerville,"
"anybody" broaches the issues of religion, sexuality, anger, love and death,
gut-wrenchingly yet beautifully.

"the only time i feel inspired to write has been when i have something really
difficult to say and it ends up sounding like my heart's being ripped out,"
polenzani said.

polenzani, whose voice has been compared to the likes of sarah mclachlan,
jewel and belly's tanya donelly, has always been inspired by sensitive-rock
artists such as cocteau twins, tori amos and leonard cohen. though the artist
does not classify herself as a folk singer, she acknowledges that the folk
audience is most receptive to her music. polenzani does concede that she is
partial to rock. "the rock audience is hard to please and it's intimidating
to me, but i've always wanted to make rock music."

this desire is evident on "anybody." there, the singer/songwriter
incorporates a drummer and a bassist into her usually acoustic music. among
the 11 tracks on her recent release, the songs "shake through ugly," "molly's
lily," "or," "olga's birthday" and "parhelion" have all received critical
acclaim. they also serve to attest polenzani's strong opinions on gender
issues. for example, "olga's birthday" is motivated by how it's "hard to show
[the] sexuality that you long to show, especially to your close friends, and
family," polenzani said. it's also about "how the church is used against
people when they're trying to be who they are, trying to shine."

other songs such as "molly's lily" and "parhelion" are inspired by real-life
events such as the salem witch trials and the teena brandon story (subject of
the recent film, "boys don't cry").

typically, polenzani draws large crowds in east coast cities like boston. if
you couldn't manage to get indigo girls tickets and are ever in that part of
the country, you can probably catch her at the clubs, morseland and no exit.

when asked why she never plays at any of the local chicago clubs, polenzani
admits that the city is a reminder of her "geekhood." however, in light of
her u of c appearance this weekend, she will be performing at several local
venues.

"no matter what your opinion is of acoustic music, this artist, who's
accurately described as quietly dangerous, deserves your attention," said
ray.

anyone who wants to learn more about this coming-of-age musician can also
visit her website at http://www.rosepolenzani.com.

couldn't get tickets for the mab show? want to see rose polenzani live? check
her out at these local venues this week: friday, february 25, at the
morseland music room, 1218 w. morse, chicago, il. 12:00 a.m. midnight.
tickets $6 call (773)761-2612 for more information. sunday, february 27, at
schuba's tavern and grill, 3159 n. southport, chicago, il. 8:00 p.m. tickets
$8 (773) 327-0552 or www.schubas.com. john kimler opens.

indigo girls concert cancelled
chicago maroon
vanessa cordonnier
news staff
february 29, 2000
performer cancels due to illness; show postponed indefinitely

fans of the indigo girls, the popular folk-rock duo scheduled to play at
mandel hall on saturday, were shocked and dismayed to learn that the concert
was cancelled just hours before the anticipated start time of 7:00 p.m. after
performer amy ray fell ill and underwent surgery for appendicitis. the major
activities board, who sponsored the concert with student money, has
indefinitely postponed the date of the concert.

"the time is yet to be determined," said kelly snow, the chairwoman of mab.
"we obviously want amy ray to get better. our intent is to reschedule, and if
we can't, then we will refund the tickets. we are trying to work it out in
the quickest way possible."

the indigo girls were in the chicago area when ray fell ill. on friday
february 15, they performed at the house of blues in downtown chicago. "it is
my understanding that [ray] played a 35 minute set at the house of blues that
night," snow said.

despite recent criticisms of mab for high ticket prices and fewer shows, the
concert sold out in record time. "it was a really quick sell - the indigo
girls on a college campus is a can't-miss situation. i'm sure students are
disappointed that the concert was canceled, but those students who showed up
were more concerned about [ray's] status than the concert," snow said.

the indigo girls, a folk-rock duo that has garnered a cult-like following
among both young and older audiences alike, was expected to sell out quickly.
the u of c concert, at which rose polenzani was scheduled to open, would have
been the last in a series of limited college campus tours for the indigo
girls. in march, they will continue touring in australia.

in the last year, mab's philosophy towards the number and size of the
concerts has changed. rather than having several smaller concerts with
lesser-known bands, mab opted for a single, large concert per quarter
featuring a well-known headliner. "both shows [this year] have sold out very
quickly, so obviously the student response to the change has been positive,"
snow said. within 48 hours, the 1000 available tickets to the concert were
sold.

expecting the concert would sell out quickly, students arrived well before
tickets went on sale at 9:00 a.m. on february 7 in order to secure seats. "we
stayed up all night and decided to camp out and wait for tickets to go on
sale. we thought there would be a line out the door of the reynolds club and
that it would be really cold and there would be no food. at 6:00 in the
morning, we left the dorms with our sleeping bags and dressed really warmly.
not only was there not a line when we got there, but the door to the
reynolds's club was open. so what did we do? we camped outside and waited
until they started selling tickets," said eitan kimchi, a second-year and
naomi feldman, a first-year.

mab's indigo blues
cwn
>from the editors
march 2, 2000
last friday, for the second time in two years, a major activities board show
was cancelled at the last minute. while mab cannot be faulted for the fact
that an indigo girl contracted appendicitis, the organization can be blamed
for the fact that the cancellation leaves them with nothing to show for
winter quarter and little hope to redeem themselves in the spring.

it is highly unlikely that the indigo girls will be able to reschedule the u
of c this year, especially since they had to cancel other dates as well. mab
as yet has no plans to replace the show, nor do we expect them to be able to
since they have already committed to a summer breeze event in may. when
hip-hop artist tricky lived up to his name and stormed offstage in the fall
of 1998, mab was able to recover his $10,000 fee, but they ended up rolling
all that money into their mediocre summer breeze concert. the cost
skyrocketed to a staggering $100 per attendee, but the entertainment value
did not change.

keeping to its long-standing policy of total secrecy, mab officers refuse to
divulge how much they were going to pay for the indigo girls concert. if mab
was going to spend $5,000 of activity fee funds in addition to the revenue
from the sale of $20 tickets, some might call it a bargain. if it were going
to spend $40,000, which is not unprecedented, everyone would call it obscene.
the answer probably lies somewhere in between, but it's fair to say that
people generally do not keep good news a secret.

one of the reasons that costs are so high is that mandel hall is too small
for most big-name acts. mab has to offer greater subsidies to make up for
reduced ticket revenue. their strategy has been to pay whatever it takes. we
believe they would better serve the student body by thinking more creatively.
why not work with university of illinois-chicago, which has a 5,000-seat
arena, for example? mab could buy 1500 tickets, re-sell them to students and
bus everyone there for less that what it would cost to bring the same act to
campus. or work with other schools to host a show at the arie crown theater,
just a short metra ride away.

mab needs top to bottom changes, not the least of which is to find members
who do not think withthe students' checkbook first. in the meantime, student
government should insist that mab return the money that would have gone to
the indigo girls so that it can be distributed to the scores of student
groups that offer well-attended cultural, educational and just plain fun
activities on campus. otherwise, mab will probably blow the money on summer
breeze again.

mab devoted to quality programming
cwn
march 9, 2000

to the editor:

i would like to say a couple of words regarding your editorial "mab's indigo
blues" [cwn 3/2/00].

kelly snow, chair of mab, and her team is working very hard on rescheduling
the concert. i believe that amy and emily of the indigo girls are very
committed and will do their best to work with mab to reschedule the
performance even though the group has to reschedule other concerts as well.

in addition, regarding your comment "keeping to its long-standing policy of
total secrecy, mab officers refuse to divulge how much they were going to pay
for the indigo girls concert," i would like to emphasize that, contractually,
mab is bound to not release the price of such bands. if i can remember
correctly, bands that perform at the college level usually are paid at a
lower price but this is done with the understanding that these numbers are
not to be divulged to protect the artist.

with respect to your comment, "the answer probably lies somewhere in between,
but it's fair to say that people generally do not keep good news a secret," i
believe that this is very unfair to say. good news is good news but if one is
bound contractually to keep the costs within mab, that promise is very
important to uphold. i think that the fact that this concert sold out in two
days shows that it is a very popular event. a number of graduate students
were very excited for this program and there was wide-appeal to
undergraduates as well.

in general, i want to voice my support for mab and for their hard work in
bringing quality music to students. i believe that under the circumstances,
mab is handling the situation to the best of their abilities. in addition,
they are very conscious of the funds allocated to them and have been working
to make sure that these funds are carefully used to benefit the entire
student body.

andy hong
student government president

illness forces mab to cancel campus show
cwn
yuh wen ling
cwn quad life editor
march 2, 2000

for the second time in two years, the major activities board's big-name band
didn't perform. much to the disappointment of ticket holders, saturday's
winter quarter concert featuring the indigo girls, the folk-rock duo of amy
ray and emily saliers.

amy ray was diagnosed with appendicitis and required surgery. during the
appendectomy, an ovarian cyst was also discovered and removed. ray is
reported to be doing fine.

citing a confidentiality clause in their contract with the indigo girls, mab
declined to comment on how much the act was being paid or the total cost of
the event. based on past mab expenditures, the cost could have been anywhere
from $20,000 to $50,000.

"mab is just as disappointed as the ticket holders that the show could not
occur on the scheduled date," kelly snow, said mab chairman.

mab is working to reschedule the indigo girls for a mandel hall show, and
will inform university community when a new date is confirmed. in the event
that this event does not take place, mab has not yet announced alternate
plans for the now-available funds.

the surgery has indefinitely postponed not only the mandel hall show but also
three weeks of engagements in australia. the dates in australia which were to
immediately follow the mandel hall concert may be rescheduled for may,
according to a spokesperson for the performers, although nothing has been
officially announced.

amy ray and emily saliers were childhood friends in decatur, ga, who played
music together in high school. after studying briefly at vanderbilt and
tulane respectively, ray and saliers met up again as students at emory
university in decatur.

they have collected records both platinum and gold, several grammy
nominations, and a wide base of dedicated fans.

indigo girls to return march 30
cwn
march 9, 2000
the indigo girls, who cancelled their sold-out february 25 campus show when
a group member fell ill with appendicitis, have re-scheduled the concert for
thursday, march 30 in mandel hall, sg president andy hong announced
wednesday.

the major activities board, which sponsored the original show, will be
putting up posters on campus during finals week to notify original ticket
holders. all february 25 tickets will be honored at the new show.

mab will be issuing refunds for ticketholders who cannot attend the march 30
show starting thursday, march 9, at the reynold club information desk. the
concert ticket and a univerity of chicago id card must be presented in order
to receive a refund.

refunded tickets will be available for purchase starting march 27. the
original show sold out in two days.

tickets are $20 for u of c students, and $25 for people with other ucid, such
as faculty, staff or laboratory school students.

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 20:34:58 -0600
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hey all,
did anyone make it to the make-up show at the university of chicago last
night? i haven't seen anyone post about it on the list today, and was
wondering if everyone had a good time. and those who made the trip to the
eku show tonight, please share how it was with us.
thanks,
michelle

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date:         fri, 31 mar 2000 21:53:48 -0500
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well, darius already concluded that he's a lesbian, but with the information
on ear infections, i guess it's overwhelming in my case - had far too many
during my teenage years - and both index fingers are shorter....

;)
tim


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> wow..i had ear infections all the time when i was a kid...i even had tubes
in
> my ears twice...it's good to know i am true to form because my ring
fingers
> are also longer than my index...no matter what body part you look at i am
> definitely gay... woo hoo
>
> carla  :o)

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   hello all those who came to philadelphia and saw their basketball teams lose tonight.
   if you cannot stand the thought of tennessee or connecticut basking in basketball glory sunday night, there is an alternative: sonia is playing at the folk factory in the mount airy section of the city. her web site, at www.soniadf.com, has details.
deb

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i have to agree that it annoys me that there always has to be some scientific reasoning behind homosexuality.  why can't they just leave it as a life style?  i guess i see that u have to prove to the biggots out there that it is not a choice, but why can't people just understand people loving the same sex/  yes ia m on a tangent about this being a utopia but why not/
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i agree with lori. lets stop looking at our fingers and look at finding
cures for more serious illnesses.

my answer to that person who did the finger test.

a-hemmm.....drum roll please....

maybe its not the length of your fingers that determines your sexuality but
where you desire to use your  fingers ....well you get the rest of that
image don't you audience :)

peace,
paula

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hey, i just wanted to tell y'all a little bit (well actually a lot) about the
u of c show last night. first off, the show was amazing. i was right next to
the stage (emily side, and she was roughly 10 ft. away from me) and ended up
leaving with her guitar pick while my friend got her set list. anyway, they
sounded great and the crowd was totally into it. amy repeatedly thanked the
doctors in the audience who took care of her (what can i say? you get sick in
our city, you get pristine service). at one point emily told a story about
waiting in the hospital and it went something like (everything herein is
quoted from the best of my recollection): "i was sitting alone in the waiting
room and this doctor came by me. i pulled him over and told him (sobbing
voice) 'amy's really really important to me and you have to fix everything'.
and the guy was like 'oh, we treat everyone the same here.' " and then she
had this classic re-inacted terrified look on her face. and then amy was
like: "oh that wasn't my doctor. my doctor was absolutely wonderful. that guy
was probably the same guy who came into my room and said, 'you know, being a
celebrity actually lessens the kind of care you'll get.' and i'm like 'i'm
not a celebrity! i'm not a celebrity!'. but my anesthesiologist, now he was
great. but i was like 'forget the morphine. give me that stuff you were
giving me before. that was some good stuff.' so good that at one point when i
was pretty loopy, there was someone looking for my autograph and i was like
'sure y'all come on in. just take out my iv and i can sign anything!' " they
both said that emily cooked for her for the entire time that she was sick.
they also said that they had enough time off and were ready to get back on
the road and we're glad to be on stage at that very moment. emily put it this
way: "yesterday, i was sitting at home looking out my window (the same window
that she later said she was looking out of when she wrote "least
complicated") and this wasp kept banging into it. it didn't kill it and it
just kept banging into it and i kept watching it.... (at this point the
audience is poised and ready for some big emily metaphor here, and she's
like) ... and now i'm here." and that was the end of her story, which was met
with much laughter. on a different note, after they had sung "ozilline", amy
told everyone how her grandmother had passed away just weeks before. it was
really moving and she didn't cry, but had to stop to take a deep breath at
one point. she said that the next song reminded her of her grandma, because
when they were going through her things, they found a bunch of love letters
between her grandparents. i guess her grandma was 15 when she married and
stayed married for the duration of her husband's lifetime. well she said:
"and these letters were so cute. they'd say things like, 'boy howdy i sure
love you. i'll say it again. boy howdy i sure love you.' " and that was the
cutest thing that anyone had ever heard. and that made for the transition
into "power of two". going back to the beginning, when they joined mrs. fun
on "undecided"... man was that hot. it's a really cool grooving song, and
believe it or not, amy and emily were basically rapping their parts. see, my
friend is more of an amy person, and i'm more emily oriented (don't get me
wrong, we both love both), and we both about fainted right then and there.
but we kept our cool. at the beginning emily had said "make yourselves at
home in your hometown. do whatever you want." and i couldn't help but
thinkin', "girl, you didn't just say that to me." but no, i maintained
control, hard as it was. we just screamed and sang a whole fuckin' lot
(excuse my language) throughout the whole show... enough that with my cold
and my screaming last night, it has rendered me almost completely voiceless
all day today. and i believe that's my cue to shut up as i've taken up enough
of y'alls time. if anyone hears of an existing bootleg, let me know. and by
the way, this was all done from memory and i believe that it's pretty
accurate. i can't tell you what i had for lunch today, but i could almost
quote them word for word. guess y'all can see what takes precedence in my
little ticking mind.

okay, goodnight y'all!

jax

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3-9 to be exact, if any listees want to get together....

ryan

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there's a review of the show @

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/088/living/spirited_csn_y_full_of_surprises+
.shtml

jude :)

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check out the following for some great pics of the girls plus articles that
have appeared in rolling stone.

http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/news/text/weeklyheadlines.asp?afl=&coming
from=artist&lookupstring=348

jude :)

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from folkmusicnet

1 april 2000

today it was announced that there's another hidden track
on 'come on now social'. "i'm surprised no one has found it
yet", says amy ray, who wrote the song 'measure of me', a line
of which gives the album its name, "we got the idea from they
might be giants. there's a hidden track on their 'factory
showroom' cd, but it's not in the usual place."

"they were really tricky" says emily, "they put it before the
first track, so you actually have to use the rewind button to
skip back to play it. unfortunately it doesn't work on all cd
players. perhaps that's why nobody has discovered it yet. we
wanted to put people out of their misery."

besides which, they agree it's a great song that deserves to be
heard. the album also features two regular hidden tracks at the
end, 'sister' and 'philosophy of loss', the latter of which is
also a bit of an in-joke, "i based it upon an old sesame street
song", emily admits, "although someone did catch on to that - i
think they even put it up on the web"

(ed note:
http://www.netreach.net/~andineil/indigogirls/covers/sgig.html )

although the hidden track experiment was a failure, the indigo
girls are eager to try again somehow. "maybe we'll do something
like it again. we like to put a secret message on all our
albums." explains emy, and amy concurrs, "my favourite is what
happens when you put the swamp ophelia album cover, upside down,
next to a mirror".

-----------------------

neil's note. today was a great day for unusual news stories,
wansn't it?? here's another link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_697000/697947.stm

hee...

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indigo girls cds for sale:

* swamp ophelia > usa full promo cd(sealed) - $10.00
* 1200 curfews(2-cd live) > in jewel case - $12.00
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i hate it when they get confused... it's not just you.  they are two separate
entities to me.  they have always been role models for me - since i was about
10 years old.  so, not being able to tell them apart, to me, is like not
being able to tell my own parents apart.
signed, the over-dramatic lori

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date:         sat, 1 apr 2000 12:10:06 -0600
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amy concurrs, "my favourite is what
happens when you put the swamp ophelia album cover, upside down,
next to a mirror".

what happens?
amyc
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so, can i vent for a second?  i used internet explorer to try and get
tickets for ig (and ellen degeneres in june, i'm in a computer lab so
i had access to two computers) and it gave me front row seats, but
after i filled out the form and clicked the "continue" button, it
gave me a "bad form" type error and i lost my hold on the seats! :(
whaaa!   so i quickly opened netscape and got seats just fine, but
now i'm in the in the 13th row. which isn't horrible, but still...
grrr  down with microsoft!
thanks
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hey y'all.
just returned from kentucky. and i have to say, what a show! wow. :) i'm not
good at this reviewing thing. this is the first time i've heard them
acoustic and it was amazing. i love watching their guitar work. they opened
with thin line and then went into get out the map, and then the always
intense faye tucker. that was utterly amazing. i love it with the band and
the celtic sound, but amy and emily alone on this song is incredible. the
setlist i got from sulli (who is so great!) is somewhat out of order because
they threw in romeo and juliet. three words. oh my god. i was front row with
several listees (hi karen, beccie, robin, kim, rhea!). i was literally right
in front of amy during romeo and oh god, i don't remember much except that
she was spitting all over the place. and of course, the song was amazing as
always. :) they did clampdown by the clash which was the most unexpected
surprise. when i got the tribute cd, i couldn't stop listening to that song,
and i was disappointed that i'd most likely never hear it live. well, i was
wrong. it took me a few seconds to realize what they were playing. um, they
did talk a bit, not as much as it sounds like in chicago. they responded to
lots of people's signs, and a request for down by the river. amy said that's
a really good song, but they just heard neil young play it so they couldn't
do it. (sigh. i love that song!). amy's monitor went out or broke or
whatever right as she was doing ozilline. that threw her a bit, i think.
gosh, i know there's more, but i'm completely drawing a blank. i need some
help...anyone else want to speak up? please do. :) afterwards a few of us
waited out back for an hour and half. our patient but nerve wracking wait
(because they kept telling us to wait by different doors) was worth it. even
though they must have been tired, amy and emily hung out and gave out
autographs (and hugs). this was my first time to say anything to them face
to face, and i think it went okay. i didn't become too tongue-tied. :) and
both amy and emily are so kind and thoughtful. meeting them was just
awesome.
well, i gotta take off. can't wait to hear the other stories! and i know
karen has a correct setlist, but take your time karen, i know you're busy
with your thesis! :)
peace,
becky
ps-is anyone planning on attending the spitfire in illinois with winona
laduke? want to tape it? i'd love to hear winona laduke speak but illinois
is just a bit far for me with school and all. let me know!
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> today it was announced that there's another hidden track
>  on 'come on now social'.

wow, someone knows how to play a good april fool's joke on obsessive
ig fans!  my only question is, is it amy & emily or neil playing the joke?
happy april, everyone...
- pony, who admittedly did try to play the track on 3 cd players ;)

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> > amy concurrs, "my favourite is what
> > happens when you put the swamp ophelia album cover, upside down,
> > next to a mirror".
>
> what happens?

        that's when all the satanic messages come out. you can see them
coded in the fragments of the floor "worship the devil and support big
business."
        mandy of the misleadingly short forefingers

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ok, i just tried it and i didn't see anything.  can
someone help, me out here please.

heather

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> amy concurrs, "my favourite is what
> happens when you put the swamp ophelia album cover,
> upside down,
> next to a mirror".
>
> what happens?
> amyc
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hey all!  i don't know if any of you were at the
university of chicago show on this past thursday night
but amy and emily were the best i've ever seen them
(out of 8 times mind you).  it was fantastic with a
totally acoustic performance and stories as well!
soo, i'm wondering if any of you were there and were
lucky enough to make a recording of the show.  i would
be so appreciative if someone could help me out in
this one.  it would mean a lot.  thank you all so much
and if anyone else went to this show i'd love to chat
about it too :)  have a great weekend!

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wait a minute...hold on...it's april first...april fools day...dammit...i
sooo believed it too...i mean they wouldn't announce anything like that on a
saturday especially...right?...

carla :o)

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is this a joke?...if anyone knows how do hear it please email me.  thanks

carla :o)

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this article is intended as an april fools joke right??
of course i tried to find some other hidden track anyway hehehe
and i spent a few minutes in front of a mirror too
nothing to be found, needless to say...
feeling quite naive,
rachel

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ok and what makes this soo great besides the fact that yes i went to 5 cd
players in my house...and held s.o. up to a mirror for longer then i care to
share...is that the date...was printed very clearly alone at the top of the
email...sigh...man he got us good!!!


carla  :o)

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well, i made it to eku and got to meet some awesome listees (becky, beccie, kim, rhea), and all of beccie's friends.  :-)  anyway, i think becky summed it up really well.  the show was amazing.  we were literally less than five feet away from amy the entire time (she spit all over us!).  they were both in great moods (though amy looked as if she was in pain), and they really interacted with the audience.  during ozilline, when something blew, they talked to us while it got repaired.  anyway, here is the setlist (can someone post the entire u of c one?)

thin line
gotm
faye tucker (gave me chills!  wow!)
peace tonight
soy
soon be to nothing (so so so beautiful)
r and j (by request)  (out of order in the set
list.  clamp down was supposed to be here)
ozzilline
wood song (!!!!!)  (wow!)
go
ghost
clamp down!
least complicated
kid fears
gone again (at the "kings cross" point in the song, amy forgot where she was.  it was really cute.  and for all you aussies, she is still pronouncing every letter in "melbourne.")
galileo

the show was amazing!  but waiting for the girls afterwards was great as well!  not many people stuck around (it was cold and we kept  ketting lied to as to where they were and which door they'd come out.  but we trusted sulli to tell us the truth).  first we chatted with sulli for a bit.  and when the girls came out -- wow! now, i had already met them 3 times before, but this time was just the best!  they let us take pictures, gave autographs (i got them to sign a piece of paper for my japanese prof who loves them and is going to japan.  i already have their autographs so i thought that would be nice.  they were like "good luck in japan."  i know she'll love it!), and becky and i even got hugged by amy!  i thanked amy for all of her work fighting for reporductive rights (my cause).  then she hugged me!  wow!

anyway, i am rambling.  yes, yes, i need to get back to the thesis (hi becky!).  anyway, great show.  great night. well worth the three hour drive!

:-) karen
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here's a key:

a p r i l  f o o l !!!!!

:0)

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> ok, i just tried it and i didn't see anything.  can
> someone help, me out here please.
>
> heather
>
> --- carrie j beitlich <cjb21@juno.com> wrote:
> > amy concurrs, "my favourite is what
> > happens when you put the swamp ophelia album cover,
> > upside down,
> > next to a mirror".
> >
> > what happens?
> > amyc
> >
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ok, everybody.  thanks for the tip.  i do feel like
the biggest dumbass that ever hit the earth.  like i
new what today is.  i never know what the date is.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.  i'm suck a freekin moron.  glad i
could give some of you a good laugh.

heather
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> a p r i l  f o o l !!!!!
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> > ok, i just tried it and i didn't see anything.
> can
> > someone help, me out here please.
> >
> > heather
> >
> > --- carrie j beitlich <cjb21@juno.com> wrote:
> > > amy concurrs, "my favourite is what
> > > happens when you put the swamp ophelia album
> cover,
> > > upside down,
> > > next to a mirror".
> > >
> > > what happens?
> > > amyc
> > >
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did they re-do ozilline?
i got tix this morning for ig in san diego at a place called humphreys..by a
marina with boxes for dinner and the show in the first 4 rows, like at the
symphony...anyone familiar with the place?

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1)  has anyone noticed that you can actually change your relative finger
length by hand position and "sucking" your forefinger down?  and if they just
used photocopies...

2) perhaps this is just fatalistic but can anyone see prenatal hormone
regulation in the future now??  i don't like to see sexuality so easily
quantified and therefore prevented/altered by science, which leads me to my
next point...

3)  overpopulation sucks!  go gay!  and/or adopt! (no offense to the
biological  parents on here, of all orientations)

4)  next time anyone shakes hands with either amy or emily, a covert
hand-held ruler might be an interesting item to have handy!  (my, 'hand' is a
useful word)

wondering why she hears cows mooing through the darkness of a floridian
vacation/snowbird suburb,
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here i was thinking oh my god this whole announcement seems meant
specifically for the list as we're the only ones who would care, this'll be
something to chatter over for quite some time and if it weren't for the fact
that i'm out of state and cdless i would have rushed to my player.
    ...well, i guess it *was* meant specificially for the list, all right!
congratulations neil on the hundreds of us you've sent to the mirror and the
hundreds more who will be reddened soon enough.

glad no one witnessed her gullibility,
lisa

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<my apologies if this got posted twice...>

1)  has anyone noticed that you can actually change your relative finger
length by hand position and/or "sucking" your forefinger down?  and if they
just used photocopies...

2) perhaps this is just fatalistic but can anyone see prenatal hormone
regulation in the future now??  i don't like to see sexuality so easily
quantified and therefore prevented/altered by science, which leads me to my
next point...

3)  overpopulation sucks!  go gay!  and/or adopt! (no offense to the
biological  parents on here, of all orientations)

4)  next time anyone shakes hands with either amy or emily, a covert
hand-held ruler might be an interesting item to have handy!  (my, 'hand' is a
useful word)

wondering why she hears cows mooing through the darkness of a floridian
vacation/snowbird suburb,
lisa

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oh boy, good one neil! you all *know* you went to the cd player and the mirror
and for a minute went "what da heck?"

lemme preface this with a little hostory: the promo disk for cons is black,
and i never bothered investing in the "showroom copy" when i got a press pack
via my mag. now... i will tell y'all, the very first thought that went through
my head was "oh shoot! does this mean i'm gonna have to go buy the green album
now?? i can't afford this!"

hehe... i guess it was funny at the time...

meredith

ps: how cool! i always wanted to play "i don't want to live on the moon", and
now i know i could all the way along! anyone know where i could get the lyrics
for that?

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>
> a p r i l  f o o l !!!!!
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date:         sun, 2 apr 2000 04:03:18 -0700
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ola,

oh my where do i begin...i believe that getting up at 6:00 am friday to get
ready for the concert that night is the best...there is no other way to
describe this other than tell you all the whole story so bear with me it is
worth it....

i got up at 6:00 am after tossing and turning till 3:00 am and began to get
ready...took a shower and began to do my hair...then i blew half the
electricity in my new apartment with the hair dryer....i jerry rigged my
phone  and hair dryer with extension cords...(my aren't cordless phone
wonderful gadgets when your breakers blow?) and finished getting
ready...hair, make-up, nails and the perfect outfit later, i drove over and
picked up my friend little robyn (her g/f's name is also robin so we call
one big robin and the other little robyn...) and headed to richmond. now,
little robyn and i had won our tickets from one of the local radio stations
after i made all of my employees at the answering service listen for the
contest and call in for the tickets...one of them got through and won (yeah,
yeah, yeah i know the dj said i cheated too but i still got them...tee hee)
we got there at 10:30 am, wandered into the auditorium and asked one of the
stage crew where to line up for tickets.  they had no clue but told us we
could stay and hang out. we watched them put the lights up and stage
together then suli and the ig crew started to show up....little robyn and i
were quiet for the most part chatting with the crew coloring in the coloring
books we had brought with us to kept us busy (yes i know i am 29 but she's
18 and it was fun) but we were not bothering anyone so they didn't make us
leave when the ig crew started working. i have to state for the record that
suli is the most amaze woman i have ever met. she is the hardest working
woman i have ever seen and she plays one heck of a mean guitar herself. .
(yeah suli world tour!!!) she chatted a bit with us after a while and even
went out for a smoke with us right before the girls showed up.  she came
over to us right before that and told us that if we were quiet and laid low
we could stay for sound check, and even kinda snuck us back in when they
started locking the doors but some ditsy chick who had been trying to bribe
cam with booze...(she even offered him a bottle on conyac and he just rolled
his eyes at us and said no...he is really kewl too...great sense of humor)
snuck into the dressing room and we all got banished outside.

well, we recouped our selves and began the line for tickets. a few of my
friends showed up and i rounded up 4 other listees by asking the crowd if
there were any other listees present (becky and her mom had been inside with
us watching the stage set up and karen showed up right after we got thrown
out) 3 people raised their hands, and kim and rhea (hey girls!!!) joined us
(when i asked the third girl  who she was she said she wasn't on the list
she just wanted good seats...tee hee)
when they opened the doors little robyn, jumped three steps at a time, ran
down to the floor and save nearly all of the front row...all my friend , all
the listees i could find and even some friend of mine from years ago who
flagged me down from the upper arena after the place filled up got front row
seats...it was amazing...we had a pact with the first 10 or so people who
lined up whoever got there first would save enough seats for everyone...i
had front and center in front of amy (the group decided that since me and
robyn had been there since 10:30 we could pick where we wanted to sit)....it
was amazing we waved at sulli from the floor and she smiled at us...<mrs.
fun was awesome!!! acid jazz meets techno...awesome...i have to get their
cd's...

the concert was great!!! emily was in wonder form...she looked comfortable
and at ease with the crowd..and her voice has never sounded better. i love
to hear them acoustic. emily is so talented with her guitar....amy, oh my,
performed wonderfully, although you could tell she was in pain. cam had told
us that she was in pain during the chicago show too and you could really see
it in her face while she performed, but she kept going like a trooper...i
did see a flash of her tattoo...(big smile) great work....and she talked to
me and little robyn during the monitor break thing...we had made signs and i
held mine up for her to read and she said "sweet i want to read your sign
but it is up side down"....i looked down and sure enough it was...so i
turned it around...it said thanks for inspiring the ride for chiapas bike
trek she smiled and gave me a thumbs up...little robyn's said "we have
waited all day long just to see you"...amy asked what time we got there and
when little robyn said 10:30 she and amy started chatting about how we got
the tickets and about her missing work to be there...amy told her not to
loose her job and laughed with us for a bit. it was great!!!! clampdown was
great i loved hearing it live!!! all in all i have to say that it was the
best concert ever!!! amy even joked about her surgery by telling us that due
to it after about an hour into a concert now she looses concentration and
that it was great that we all knew the words to the songs...they were really
chatty with the audience it was awesome

suli came out after the concert and gave me amy's set list....(oh my) and
one of the guards we had chatted with before the concert gave me a back
stage pass but we figured that a. it wouldn't get us very far since it was
only an events staff pass and b. i really didn't want to mess with the girls
during that down time after the show...sorry guys, amy was really hurting
she kept tugging at the waist band of the jeans over her incision towards
the end of the show and i really didn't want to be a bother....but not
wanting to miss a chance to meet them we did go out back to the stage door
and karen and becky hung out with us till the end. the back stage workers we
hadn't met before the concert kept lying to us about where they were coming
out until suli came out. i hugged her and thanked her for making the show
really special for us (i know it sounds sappy but she was really great about
cutting up with us!!! and i wanted to thank her for being so nice to us) she
hung with us for a bit and chatted...then.....the girls came out...it was
amazing...suli had signed my set list and then emily did.  i froze up when i
got near amy (thank god i did nan cause you know what i would have asked her
if i hadn't tee hee) i did manage to say something to her when she started
talking about her surgery. i told her she really looked like she was
hurtin'....then she signed my set list...i wanted to say so much to her but
she really looked tired and emily had already escaped to the bus...she kinda
had this look on her face like "how the hell do i get out of here" so i hung
back and didn't press her for anymore conversation., next time i will get a
chance to thank her for all the music...but there just wasn't the time and
place...

anyway it was amazing...even though my blood sugar was pretty low,  my hair
had fallen and i was so tired that i fell asleep as soon as my head hit the
pillow it was the best day ever!!! meeting becky, her mom, karen,  kim and
rhea was great!!! i wish kim and rhea could have stayed for the meeting part
but i know they had a great time,

i know this was long but there was no other way to describe the perfect ig
concert experience other than by telling you the whole story...besides
getting to experience the true meaning of the girls message by meeting
listees face to face (from this list and my local lexington lesbian list)
helping others get front row seats and having one hell of a good time was
truly an experience to share...

pacem in terris, mir, shanti, salaam, hey wa
beccie lyon

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direction of our  imaginations wildest dreams.

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just wondering if this is legitimate.

jude :)

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does anyone know how to make a cd liner for a jewel case in ps pro?  any
template i could use?  i now use surething and i want to put some liners in
another format so people can access them off the web.

jude :)

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hey hey -

on friday i ordered tix for the cornell show - woo
hoo!  i'm so excited - reading people's reviews, well,
that gets me more jazzed!  cant wait!  not to mention
- i just saw tom jones the other night (teehee) (i'm
still practicing all of his 'dance moves' lol).  let
me just say i am *aching* for an ig show after that
one! ha.  it was an experience alright...i felt like i
should have been in a las vegas lounge...drinking a
cocktail...it was odd.

anyhoo - take it easy -
sunny

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date:         sun, 2 apr 2000 12:58:23 -0400
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if i look at my hands with the palms down, there appears to be about a half
inch difference in the length of my ring and index fingers, with the ring
finger appearing longer, yet if i look at my hands with the palms up, the
fingers appear to be much closer in size.  anyone else notice anything of a
similar nature?

tim

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other days the line tends to deviate;
i've got no criteria for sex or race;
i just want to hear your voice,
i just want to see your face..." (ani difranco)

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> 1)  has anyone noticed that you can actually change your relative finger
> length by hand position and "sucking" your forefinger down?  and if they
just
> used photocopies...

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man, tracy chapman kicked ass last night... fantastic! alas, i didn't get a
decent recording, so if you know anyone who did...

anyway...

>congratulations neil on the hundreds of us you've sent to the mirror and
the
>hundreds more who will be reddened soon enough.

hee.

>the date...was printed very clearly alone at the top of the
>email...sigh...man he got us good!!!

another big clue was this link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_697000/697947.stm

y'all have my permission to get me back anytime...

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date:       sun, 16 apr 2000 18:45:02 +0000
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coming on friday, may 5th and saturday, may 6th its the 7 th. annual
spring jam @ <a href="http://www.sunshinedreams.com">sunshine day dreams</a>
in tera alta, wv. with the tom batchelor band,fat apple, sultans of
bing,chiefs tale,peach melba, the john mullins
band,macgregor,jhinx,schmedley,stewed mulligan,grubkitty,velvet jones,jello
and
left for dead. this show will feature camping,vending,good food,and lots of
great music!! jambands,blues,jazz,dead cover,funk,reggae and bluegrass will
be featured.
        this show is all ages and rain or shine. tickets are $18 in advance
and
$25 at the door  and available at all protix  locations as well as some no
service charge outlets. gates open 12:00 fri and showtime is 5:00 pm.friendly
dogs are welcome($5 cleanup fee) and kids under 12 are free.for more info
check pro plus web page @ <a
href="http://www.baysoft.net/prod+/springjam.html">pro  plus</a> or call 304
789 2292 or 410 467 6775
           come join us in wild and wonderful west va for the spring jam!!
___about 70 mi south of pittsburg 20 miles east of morgantown

other dates
6/2 and 6/3         ekoostik hookah
6/16 and 6/17      summer soul
8/26                     dark star  orchestra
9/15 and 9/16      back to school boogie
10/7                     harvest ball

tapers welcome!  kids area at all shows. under 12 free.deadhead owned and
operated this is a truly a nice place to hang out .more national acts tba
camping available any time. vendors wanted.thanks and we hope to see ya at
the shows
jelloman

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--- digest anonymous <earthgrrl0@aol.com> wrote:
> is it just me, or does everyone that listens to this
> song in their car looks
> down at the turn signal to make sure it's not on?
> there's this faint ticking
> in that durn song and i know that's what it is but i
> subconsciously look down
> at my dash to make sure that my signal is on....

yes, me too, but even worse is the britney spears song
"drive me crazy".  it has sirens in the background and
i always turn the radio way down (probably a good
thing considering the song) and look around for an
ambulance or fire engine.
:)carrie

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>yes, me too, but even worse is the britney spears song
>"drive me crazy".  it has sirens in the background and
>i always turn the radio way down (probably a good
>thing considering the song) and look around for an
>ambulance or fire engine.
that happens to me every time i listen to soy in my car.. the first time i
kinda flipped out 'cause i was driving on the highway wayyy over the
limit.. lol

~val
everywhere you are is everywhere you've been-just lost to the beat-punching
thru your skin-you don't know what to do-but still you wanna crawl-all thru
the broken glass-that's everywhere you are-your love must always be
true-your love must always be you-everywhere you are-anywhere you go-even
if you're starved-it matters what you do-but even if you've gone too
far-you can follow you-everywhere you are-and in your mind-you were
alone-all this time-with everything you were-and every smile you wore-still
locked in your heart-everywhere you are-every single chard-everywhere you
are-you're never too far-cause anywhere you'd go-even to the stars-all you
have to do-is play the part of who you are-the rest is up to you-phase
unwound-by yourself-atom bomb-on the shelf unsung-pause of light-pulse of
life-new face dawns-everywhere you are-and everywhere you go-even if you're
down-even if you're low-the thought of you-it's in the eyes of all-astride
a storied past-that's everywhere you are-your love must always be true-your
love must always be you-everywhere you are-anywhere you go-even if you're
scarred-it's all a part of you-but ever should you put it down-you can
never lose me-everywhere you are.
~the imploding voice            the smashing pumpkins.

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hi folks,

it's time to take the finger length discussion off the list.

please take this topic to private email or other forums.

thank you.

jen lucero
ig list co-owner

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is anyone interested in a free alanta showing of "it's
in the water"? it will be monday april 3rd, at 9pm.
email me for details.

love,
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hi list,

i was at a prism dance at niu (it's their glbt group) and picked up a
prideletter that tells about events in the upcoming month.
so.... they were advertising that they were having the spitfire tour with
both indigo girls with the info below....anyone know anything about this?
i know it's not a 'performance', but i would drive an hour to just get a look
at them.

april 6th
northern illinois university
dekalb, il
(spitfire tour date with winona laduke)

-mel w

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date:         sun, 2 apr 2000 17:13:20 -0700
reply-to:     faerie <faeriegirl@earthlink.net>
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>
> > yes, me too, but even worse is the britney spears song
> > "drive me crazy".  it has sirens in the background and
> > i always turn the radio way down (probably a good
> > thing considering the song) and look around for an
> > ambulance or fire engine.
> > :)carrie
> >
>
i had to add to this.. the first time i heard "shame on you' was with my
now  ex in his car.. and we heard the sirens.. he actually pulled over.. ha
ha ha ...

thanks for the memories....

joanne ::out of lurkdom for the moment:::

"somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has
to be us."
                                -- jerry garcia (of the grateful dead)

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date:         sun, 2 apr 2000 19:59:02 edt
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in a message dated 3/31/00 8:30:14 pm central daylight time,
shannonc@oregon.uoregon.edu writes:

<< so the question is not do
all lesbians have such-and-such a trait, and all straight women not have
it, but do statistically more lesbians have it than straight women, and do
the data pass certain statistical tests that confirm this..

i agree with shannon.  studies like this are misleading, although i find it
humorous.  it was probably done with a correlation test, which even though it
is a statistical test, does not show cause and effect.  statistical linkage
is not proof.  for example, a study done in england (i believe) a few years
ago showed that there was a "link" between the number of storks that flew
over the city and the number of babies born.  there was also one that showed
there was a correlation between the number of ice cream cones eaten and the
number of drownings. kinda puts things into prospective.  in both cases, one
has nothing to do with the other.  the danger here with the finger length
study is when uneducated people use things like this as ammunition.

amy

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any takers just email me.  i have 2 and am selling them at cost ($10 ea.).
unfortunately i think i will end up having to work that day, but oh well at
least i'll see them in tampa

nan

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i went to the official ig site and did a little clicking--
speaking at the spitfire date are:

amy ray & emily saliers of the indigo girls, winona laduke, kennedy, michael
franti, jonah goldberg

here's the rest of the info-

northern illinois university
dekalb, il (one hour from chicago)
duke ellington ballroom, 7:00 pm
$2 students, $5 faculty & general public

it sounds very interesting, and the web site says that the girls will be
talking about human rights (which they are very passionate about, so...). if
i lived any closer, i'd go. it sounds fabulous!

-megan (o:,'

also, they're speaking in cincinatti on may 12th:

university of cincinnatti
cincinnatti, oh
zimmerman auditorium, 7:00 pm
open to uc community only, with uc id
line-up: amy ray & emily saliers of the indigo girls, michael franti, tracy
conaty, julia butterfly

students only, but worth posting nonetheless!

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sent: sunday, april 02, 2000 4:13 pm
to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
subject: spitfire tour- niu/dekalb


hi list,

i was at a prism dance at niu (it's their glbt group) and picked up a
prideletter that tells about events in the upcoming month.
so.... they were advertising that they were having the spitfire tour with
both indigo girls with the info below....anyone know anything about this?
i know it's not a 'performance', but i would drive an hour to just get a
look
at them.

april 6th
northern illinois university
dekalb, il
(spitfire tour date with winona laduke)

-mel w

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wow they didnt do closer to fine? interesting....

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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the news-only list...

-sherlyn

---------- begin forwarded message ----------
date: sun, 2 apr 2000 23:15:15 -0700
from: liz shepard <strngwnd@elpaso.net>
to: ig-news@smoe.org
subject: [ig-news] uc - 3/30


hey y'all!  here is the setlist for thursday's show

gotm
reunion
peace tonight
gone again
mystery
chickenman
least complicated
johnny rotten
philosophy of loss
go
hammer & nail
ozilline
power of two
shame on you
closer to fine
  encore:
jonas & ezekial  (setlist indicated pushin the needle)
galileo

the show was awesome.  my sister & i were standing in the 3rd row in =
front of  emily.  both a & e were smiling and talked a lot with the =
crowd.  both thanked the doctors for the wonderful medical care amy =
received in march.  emily just beamed during the whole show.  their =
voices sounded great for being off for the month.  amy appeared to be a =
little sore after a couple songs.  we've seen the girls a handful of =
times and this is the closest we've been.  we were lucky enough to get a =
setlist and a pick after the show.   i still haven't touched the ground =
yet!
peace
liz =20

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date:         mon, 3 apr 2000 01:48:59 edt
reply-to:     diane wong <arle@hotmail.com>
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neil and all you intimate strangers,

but there is something when you put the swamp ophelia cover next to a mirror
right side up!  it's a uterus!

sorry for grossing everyone out, (if i did).

just the doc in me,
diane
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test, sorry

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date:         mon, 3 apr 2000 03:10:48 edt
reply-to:     anna banana <aeigfolk@hotmail.com>
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sorry for the nigc, but i think this is appropriate here.  if you'd like to
participate in the following survey about women's music, please continue.
thanks!
-anna
(just e-mail your answers back to me: aeigfolk@hotmail.com)

****************************
hi folks.  i'm doing an analysis of women's music for a class on popular
culture and would like your input.  please answer the following questions as
accurately as possible. all information will be kept strictly confidential,
as i'm interested in group characteristics rather than individual.
basically, i'm interested in how women's music has impacted your life.  if
you are subscribed to other women's music e-mail lists, please feel free to
forward this survey.  thank you for sharing your insights.

part a:  what is your. . .
age:

gender:

sexual orientation:

racial/ethnic identity:

geographic region:

occupation:


part b:
1. which women artists do you listen to on a regular basis?


2. how do you think women's music stands apart (if at all) from other kinds
of music?


3. has women's music impacted your political beliefs or activities?  in what
ways?


4. is there something specific about the music that "speaks" to you?  if so,
what is it?


5. at what point in your life were you introduced to, or acquainted with,
this kind of music?


6. how do you define "women's music?"


7. do you feel that you are represented in the images, themes, and lyrics
that run through the music you listen to?  in what ways?


8. has women's music contributed to the development of personal
relationships in your life?  how?


9. how do you think the internet has influenced fans of women's music and
how they interact?


10. is there anything else you would like to share that has not been
addressed in the above questions?


***many thanks for taking the time to complete this survey!***
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i just called the college and finally got to speak with a person
(781-283-2375) who said the concert is just for students.  you need an id to
get tickets (any students on the list?)
chances are they're already selling them.  the woman said right now it's
scheduled to be an indoor concert which only seats 1400 people, but they may
move it outside.  i don't know when they'll make that decision but it doesn't
mean they'll open it up to the public.
rena

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hey there,

sorry to tie up the list with this, but a very nice colleague of mine
missed the boat on tickets to sting at red rocks in colorado. the show
is coming up as sold out so the question is...

is there a sting mailing list out there someplace where die-hard sting
fans can get their fix?

she's a gem so i'd like to get some info to her if possible.

please respond privately. cheers and many thanks,
kc

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hey everyone!

my family has some pretty good connections at princeton university and i am working on getting into the ig show there on april 14th.  if anyone else is interested in attending that show, email me privately and i'll put you on my list.  i'm not sure yet if i'll get tickets or some kind of pass, but in any event i'll distribute them on a first-come-first-served basis.  please understand that nothing is definite yet...

thanks!

jean


jean moses
sneakyjean@yahoo.com


---------------------------------
do you yahoo!?
talk to your friends online with yahoo! messenger.
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<p>my family has some pretty good connections at princeton university and i am working on getting into the ig show there on april 14th.  if anyone else is interested in attending that show, email me privately and i'll put you on my list.  i'm not sure yet if i'll get tickets or some kind of pass, but in any event i'll distribute them on a first-come-first-served basis.  please understand that nothing is definite yet... </p>
<p>thanks!</p>
<p>jean</p>
<p> </p><br><br>jean moses<br>sneakyjean@yahoo.com<p><br><hr size=1><b>do you yahoo!?</b><br>
talk to your friends online with <a href="http://im.yahoo.com/">yahoo! messenger</a>.
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date:         mon, 3 apr 2000 14:18:33 edt
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damit!!!!!

my birthday is april 1st too. i never get fooled on anything!!!!


boy, if you ever want me to sign my house deed over, you know what to use as
bait!

joe

brooklyn

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i found the power of 2 epic single with rockin in the free world live!
question.  i paid $6.99 for this, used.  is it ethical to buy used cds like
this, making profits for the store but not for the artist? or do they get
royalties from resales?

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> hey y'all!  this is the monthly reminder to the newbies and lovelorn that
> there is a place for you to find other indigo lovin' singles on egroups.
>
> the indigo-singles page (not associated with the list except for the fact
> that there are mostly listees subscribed) currently has 106 members and 61
> database profiles to choose from.  it was created due to the desire of
> many indigo girls fans to meet and possibly date each other. it is open to
> all listees of different genders/identities/orientations.
>
> to subscribe, send a message to: indigo-singles-subscribe@egroups.com.  or
> go here: <http://www.egroups.com/group/indigo-singles> and click on
> subscribe. you can set it up to read any messages on the web or through
> email, but that's not really what the site is for.
>
> after you subscribe, go to the site:
> <http://www.egroups.com/group/indigo-singles>. when you
> get there, click on 'database', then on "vital statistics", then on 'add
> record'.  fill in your info, then repeat for the "favorite things" table.
> then wait for like-minded singles to contact you, or take the plunge and
> contact others whose descriptions/profiles interest you.
> you only have to give as much info as you want, or you can always
> just lurk. the only thing you need to participate is an email address.
>
> in addition, there is a chat room, and "files" in which you can place a
> photo, or your homepage, or view those of other members.
>
> happy matchmaking,
>
> your friendly neighborhood sap and indigo-singles moderator,
>
> tara
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date:         mon, 3 apr 2000 13:24:34 pdt
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hey all! ya know, i have been reading the posts today and it just confirmed
a thought i've been having.

it just blows my mind how "intimate strangers" can share such a commonbond
through music, but especially through these two women! i know how intensly
ig have influenced my life and how deep my admiration, respect, and love for
them go, but its always awsome to share your loves and interests w/ others!

ig have an extemely rare and precious gift of honesty and truth mixed w/
unparrell talent that they both consistantly and almost effortlessly give to
each one of us indivualy. the depths in which their music and lyrics have
imprinted my soul are inexplicable! i always look forward to reading the
posts through out the day to learn, laugh, share info, and most importantly
talk; about the best group ever!!

i mean, what other group do you know of that has sold almost 10 million
records and still give a free concert outside (the quad) at a school (duke)
just like it was a bunch of friends gatherin together to hear eachothers
music!! talk about non-shalaunt!!(u should all know by know i cant spell!!)

amy and emily through, out the years, have never ever lost sight of their
truths, intergrity, their purely intense passion, beleifs or priorities.
they're are as humble and brilliant as ever, even though they are "famous."
it just amazes me how they both are constantly writing, playing, traveling-
playing intimate, small, and large  venues-, having free concerts, lending
their support for all events for issues in which they believe in (thats a
full time job by itself) own a restraunt (emily), run a label (amy), do a
solo project (amy), and oh yea have a life, family, relationships and
friends.  i know emily wrote about that struggle in the language or the kiss
(i had no idea what that song was about until i joined this list!! thanks
for the info!) but it is mind boggling how they both just "go go go" and
still have time for everything else!

i cant say enough about those two! i feel like i "know" them b/c they both
share so much of themselves in thier songs. i know for me, many times i find
myself getting lost in a song, having my sould moved by it, and then at the
end not even knowing what it was all about!! like some posted earlier about
songs taking on different meanings during different periods of our life,
each time i listen to a song it touches me differently.

question if ya want: has their been an ig song that you really had no idea
what on earth the song was "about" (loving it of course) and then learned
the origin later on? (ex: i didnt know language or the kiss was about emilys
struggle w/ "two" worlds! that song has even more meanings to it now!!)

if any of ya have ideas on that one, i lookforward to readin em!! their
words mean something to me as i interpet them, it fasinates me  to know why
they wrote it and what it was about for them!!

sorry for the long post!! trust me it could be longer!! i hope i get to meet
amy and emily at duke in a couple of weeks. wow would i just be in awe!!!
have a good one!!

cara
.........."gravel and glass on the bottom of my feet, i bruise my heel on
the swollen street"....... (swollen street...what a visual!!)
                     joking - ig

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hi everyone,

i have a question for anyone who has ordered online recently from daemon.  i
went to their website to order the documentary but when i pushed the buy
button i received a security alert.  has anyone else experienced this?  if
so, please let me know if you went ahead in sending your information online
or sent your order by mail instead to be safe.

any advice will be greatly appreciated.

thanks,
sue

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happy birthday to the following listees who celebrate this week:

april 6
heidid4660@aol.com (heidi)
"a key to a room of your own and a mind without end..."

april 8, ('77)
spinsker@goucher.edu (sarah pinsker)

special request (from patricia mckeough <campgurl@yahoo.com>)
april 8
lesley "didge" ruthven (littlecanoegirl@hotmail.com)
"we're standing at opposite poles, equal partners in a mystery."

and as always...
if you are not on the list, and would like to be, feel free to
email me privately.  i will put you on the list asap.  some people have
just included their email address and birthday, others include their real
name, and lots include quotes.  any form is acceptable.  similarly, if you
are on the list and would like to add/change/delete your entry, do so
privately and i will update.  do not forget to include your b-day if you
are in the add/change/delete category...i really don't want to sift
through hundreds of entries to find yours.  thanks :)


love and indigo wishes...
audra
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hey, who was looking for ig vinyl?  i know i wrote to someone about it
recently.  well, anyway someone has the self-titled on sale at e-bay.
here's the link:

http://grass.ebay.com/go/101/11582937/1/297999159


maybe the bidding won't go that high...

-emily

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hey, i've already got my tickets and if all goes well i'm going to try and
get a recording of some of the speeches. i'm going to definately get amy and
emily's as well as winona laduke's, and i'm hoping to get ralph nader's as
well. if i have enough room on my mini discs, i'll tape the whole thing. but
if it does turn out, i'll be willing to make copies for people so we'll see
how it goes. :)

jax

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hi,

is there any kind person on the list who is going to the scanton show and is
planning on getting there early and who might be willing to do me a huge
favor?

please email me privately, i would be very very grateful!!!

thanks,
carlisle

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hey y'all~
    long time no post from little ol' me. you haven't gotten rid of me that
easily. anyhoo... i'm doing my senior project dance to "the wood song" and a
few people have asked me what it means. i've been having a hard time actually
figuring it out. my dance teacher says it sounds like she's singing about
noah's ark. any of y'all wise indigo folks out there have insight into this?
peace (tonight),
~alyssa

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<< yes, me too, but even worse is the britney spears song >>

of course, what's worse is that you're listening to britney spears...

;) lisa

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alyssa-
        i think the wood song is so beautiful and it's one of my favorites. i
imagine it would make wonderful dance music.
        i've always taken the lyrics to be talking about growing up and finding
your way in the world, does anyone else get that from it at all? i think
about that when i hear "the thin horizon of a plan is almost clear, my
friends and i have had a tough time, bruising our brains hard up against
change."
        the noah's ark reference about being "in the boat in two by twos... love
weighs the hull down with its weight" i think is so stunning lyrically. it
always makes me think of people pairing off in life and a love so intense
it can overwhelm.
        the refrain, "but the wood is tired and the wood is old, and we'll make it
fine if the weather holds, but if the weather holds we'll have missed the
point, that's where i need to go," makes me cry and think that i've had to
weather the fierce storm to survive and flourish.
        "sometimes i ask to sneak a closer look, skip to the final chapter of the
book, and then maybe steer us clear from some of the pain it took, to get
us where we are this far," reminds me of the time in my life when i wanted
to rush through one period of time to get to the next phase. but of course
you can't do that and i look back at what i learned during the phase i saw
as unneeded and am blown away at what i learned and how different things
might be without it.
        as you can tell, i love this song. and when i sit down and think about the
lyrics like this, i realize how many ig songs have meant so much to me over
the years.how i've attached them to specific memories and times.
everybody have a good tuesday, i'm taking my husband to have his wisdom
teeth pulled. yikes!
michelle

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    i'll try to be brief, but you've tapped a vein...  the way i always
interpreted the wood song was pretty much in identifying with it.  the wood
imagery beautifully coincided with the pine forests and log cabins of ymca
camp warren, and the boat imagery with canoeing traditions we were fighting
to keep.  i was in a situation where i was, along with friends, fighting
against standardization of the ymca's summer camps.  our camp, warren, has a
70+ year history full of tradition and soul and that wasn't consistent with
the y's vision of an efficient camp.  but the changes they were proposing
weren't as drastic as they at first seemed.  it was a huge struggle against
all the old dogs upstairs, we were powerless.   but then, for awhile, it
looked like we were winning... but if the weather had held, we'd have missed
the point (learning to deal with change when not harmful) and that's where we
needed to go.

lisa

"i used to believe in forever, but forever's too good to be true"  pooh

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anybody else hoping that emily or amy will join zack???


*rage's zack de la rocha begins work on solo album*

april 3, 2000, 1:45 pm pt

rage against the machine's zack de la rocha is heading into a new york city
recording studio next month to
record his very first solo album.

  according to representatives of the  new york underground rap group, company
flow, de la rocha
   apparently made a "wish list" of producers he'd like at the helm of his debut
and has recruited his top
  choice, company flow's el-p, to produce at least four of the tracks.

company flow cut short a tour of japan recently so el-p could fly back to the
states to meet de la rocha and
  discuss working together. el-p is scheduled to spend the entire month of may
in the studio with the rage against the
    machine frontman.

   other hip-hop artists being tossed around to produce the remaining tracks
include roni size, dj premier, and mos def,
  although none of them would confirm.

   the album will be released by rage against the machine's label, epic, which
had no details on the musicians joining de
     la rocha in the studio or on an official release date.

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time to de-lurk very briefly with a question.

is there anyone else on this list from the uk or am i the solo
representative of my country?  not that i mind or anything, i'd just be
interested to know.

hello everyone, by the way :-)

ellen "straight but with gay fingers" mainwood

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let it come from you,
then it will be new.
give us more to see."
- sunday in the park with george (stephen sondheim)

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i know that many of us living in the los angeles area have posted about the
radio station channel 103.1, but i have some bad news.  my inside sources
there have informed me that the 103.1 frequency has been sold to a company
that does spanish language programming.  the change will take place sometime
between june and october.  according to the music director, nicole sandler,
they are "working feverishly to keep channel 103.1 going...whether by moving
it to another frequency, or taking advantage of the new technologies by
broadcasting on the internet or via satellite."

so this is bad news for us loyal listeners.  i let nicole know that there
are many ig fans that will miss the station.  but there is nothing that can
be done, as radio is a money making business.  and in southern california,
spanish stations are among the highest rated.

just passing on some information,
k.
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i always thought the wood song was about a strong and long lived relationship.
a relationship that can weather the storm - i dont know.

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guys this is really a neat idea!!!!  i am gonna send my old cell phone in...
from: kathleen ames <kames@successforall.net>
subject: good morning america's "call to protect"
date: tue, 4 apr 2000 08:52:52 -0400

ever wonder what to do with your old used cell phones??

good morning america joined the crusade to aid battered women when
it launched the "call to protect" program live on the show. the "call
to protect" program is a joint effort between the national coalition
against domestic violence and the wireless foundation. the program collects
old cell phones, reprograms them to automatically dial 911 or a
crisis hotline at the touch of a button, and distributes them to
battered women shelters.

if you're interested in supporting the cause, just send your retired
cell phone(s) to:

"gma's call to protect,"
ansonia station
p.o. box 234071
new york, ny 10023.

and please forward this information to others who might be
interested!

for more information see the gma website at www.abcnews.com, or
click on the following link:
http://abcnews.go.com/onair/goodmorningamerica/gma000313_calltoprotect.html


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i always thought the wood song was kind of a metaphor
for getting thru life and taking it slowly - and how
if everything is easy, then "we'll have missed the
point" you have to learn from the hardships and
mistakes you go through. i think she's talking about a
similar thing in language or the kiss "the one gift
which i'd adore unwrap a package of the next 10 yrs
unfolding"  she wants to know what will happen - see
the future.  but i definitely think the noah's ark
reference is justified "now we're in the boat in 2 by
2's"  generally i think it's talking about life and
how there's no way to make it simple, because the
point is to learn and grow from all you've gone
through...

-laurel

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on tue, 4 apr 2000, laurel decou wrote:

> i always thought the wood song was kind of a metaphor
> for getting thru life and taking it slowly - and how
> if everything is easy, then "we'll have missed the

i'd have to say i agree here.  thought i would post the lyrics to the song
to aid in the discussion.

>from lifeblood:

the wood song

the thin horizon of a plan is almost clear
my friends and i have had a tough time
bruising our brains hard up against change
all the old dogs and the magician
now i see we're in the boat in two by twos
only the heart that we have for a tool we could use
and the very close quarters are hard to get used to
love weighs the hull down with its weight
but the wood is tired and the wood is old
and we'll make it fine if the weather holds
but if the weather holds we'll have missed the point
that's where i need to go

no way construction of this tricky plan
was built by other than a greater hand
with a love that passes all out understanding
watching closely over the journey
yeah but what it takes to cross the great divide
seems more than all the courage i can muster up inside
although we get to have some answers when we reach the other side
the prize is always worth the rocky ride
but the wood is tired and the wood is old
and we'll make it fine if the weather holds
but if the weather holds we'll have missed the point
that's where i need to go

sometimes i ask to sneak a closer look
skip to the final chapter of the book
and then maybe steer us clear from some of the pain it took
to get us where we are this far yeah
but the question drowns in it's futility
and even i have got to laugh at me
no one gets to miss the storm of what will be
just holding on for the ride
the wood is tired and the wood is old
we'll make it fine if the weather holds
but if the weather holds we'll have missed the point
that's where i need to go

words and music emily saliers
copyright 1994 bmi virgin music inc and godhap music (bmi)

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on sat, 1 apr 2000, carrie j beitlich wrote:

> amy concurrs, "my favourite is what
> happens when you put the swamp ophelia album cover, upside down,
> next to a mirror".
>
> what happens?
> amyc
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be the things i miss...'
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oooops sorry, didnt mean the previous post:)

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hey y'all.  do any of you have an original pickneys store press photo? (the
one with em in the sunglasses and boots, and amy sitting next to her on the
curb) - i mean, if anyone has an original - meaning you know for a fact that
the picture in your possession was mailed out from epic, please let me know.
i think i bought a fraudulent copy on ebay, and i'm kinda mad about it.  i
want to know if the originals were glossy or matte finish.  i thought all
press photos were matte, because i have one from epic for shaming and it's
matte.  also i need to know how clear the fonts are on the side.  i'm very
certain mine's a fake, but i'd like to confirm it with someone.

thanks,
tara

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i just got my ticket for the asheville show on the
27th.  my last atlanta area show before i move to
oregon:(.  anyone besides erin and me that is going?
i'm driving up from atlanta if any of you guys want to
come along, just email me.
:)carrie

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in the danger that i am oversimplifying, i think the
wood song is about perseverence.  while it is about
noah's ark (the two by two reference may have more
than one meaning, but the obvious allusion to the arky
song cannot go unnoted), it is not just about noah's
ark.  i think most of emily's songs are beautiful
because their brilliance and poetry is universal even
through specific images.
:)carrie

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alyssa,

ahh, the wood song. i bet i'm like #23523455 who has responded to this but
here goes my version.


the song is about lifes trials and tribulations; the fact that we all would
like not to have to bother with the paint that life often puts on us, but
also that with out that pain we are not alive and we will never learn

"the thin horizon of a plan is almost clear, my friends and i have had a
tough time. bruising our brains hard up against change, all the old dogs and
the magician....."

    that is emilly singing about making a plan in life, then dealing with all
the changes that happen becuase of everyday living. the old dogs and the
magician, a cleaver way to say that we as people don't like to learn anything
new tricks (magicians perform tricks, old dogs can't be tought them)

"....now i see were in the boat in two by two's, only the heart we can use
for a tool, the very close quarters are hard to get used too, love weighs the
hull down with it's weight. "

admitinly i've always had trouble with that line, i see that with someone in
your life, you can get a little crowed. the hull of a boat is of course the
bottom, if it is getting weighed down, the boat won't go as fast, the boat,
as we are about to find out, is our lives


"......but the wood is tired, and the wood is old, and we'll make it fine if
the weather holds, but if the weather holds, then we'll have missed the
point, and thats where i need to go"

the wood is our lives. were tired of change, why can't we all just be
astronauts and princesses like we wanted when we were young!!!?? the weather
is life. the changes, and the troubles. so if the weather hold (if we have no
trouble) we'll have missed the point (then whats to learn, or why bother
beign alive?) and thats where i need to go ( thats what life is all about)

"...no way construction of this tricky plan, i know this was built by a
greater hand, with a love that passes all our understanding watching closley
over the journey"

i love that verse. here emily is talking about not being too afraid to said
on this journey becuse god is wathcing over us with a love for us that we
could never understand and god will watch us on our journey!!! isn't she
great!

".....yeah, but what it takes to cross the great divde, seemes more then all
the courgage then i can muster up inside, but when we get to have some
answers when we reach the other side, the prize is always worth the rocky
ride"

i'd have to say my favorite line in the song. we are talking now, about
troubles that we face. the trouble may seem too much, ever been in a
situation that you thought you could never get through? well this is
reminding you that once you work your way through that trouble the reward, or
prize, is so worth everything you went through.

"...somtimes, i ask to sneak a closer look, skip to the final chapter of the
book and maybe stear us clear of some of the pain it took, to get us where we
are this far.."

this is 20/20 hindsight. if i knew then what i know now!

"....but the question drowns in it's futility, and even i have got to laugh
at me, no one gets to miss the storm of what will be, just holding on for the
ride..."

that about sums it up huh? we all have to have trouble in our lives, we all
have to have problems, we can't just hold on for the ride, that not at all
what life is about.

this is one of my favorite songs in the world. it's depth, illutions and
message move me still everytime i hear it. it's a song of hope, it's a song
of survival. it's the first song about life that ever hit the nail on the
head.


i hope i was some help,


joe

brooklyn, ny

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date:         tue, 4 apr 2000 10:37:10 -0700
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hey. i have an extra self-titled vinyl, and just to take some business
away from ebay *cackle*, i'll trade it with someone for cd bootlegs,
artwork, photos, whatever... email me if you're interested! :)

love -
amy

ps, i'm sure it's already been mentioned, but ig are up for 7 glama
awards. also, my mom saw a video on the plane on the way to hawaii. i
grilled her for about 15 min. to figure out which one it was, but she
couldn't tell me anything except that they were on stage and one had
brownish hair and one had reddish hair. duh. :)

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just to clarify the boating references, someone said:

"....now i see were in the boat in two by two's, only the heart we can use
for a tool, the very close quarters are hard to get used too, love weighs
the
hull down with it's weight. "

admitinly i've always had trouble with that line, i see that with someone in
your life, you can get a little crowed. the hull of a boat is of course the
bottom, if it is getting weighed down, the boat won't go as fast, the boat,
as we are about to find out, is our lives

when you use ballast to weigh down the hull of a boat, you are stabilizing
it.  she's saying that love will be there always to stabilize the ride.

vicki

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> and the very close quarters are hard to get used to

for the longest time i thought this was "varicose" quarters, which would be
the exact opposite of "very close" quarters.  :)  because "varicose", as in
varicose veins, means "dilated and knotty".

this song is beautiful, and means a lot to me.  to me, it means that sometimes
you have to experience "bad weather" to truly appreciate the good things in
life, or you have to go through a lot of hardship and tough times to get to
where you are (which is hopefully a good place) - you have to know the bad
before you can get to the good, i.e. know what you don"t want to experience
again so that you can shape and mold your direction to where you want it to
go.  eventually, you'll get to where you want!  do i sound too optimistic and
simplistic?

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in a message dated 4/4/00 8:14:26 am pacific daylight time, ig4me@hotmail.com
writes:

> ever wonder what to do with your old used cell phones??
i sold 4 of them for $150 to someone who works for a company who refurbishes
them...before i heard of this

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calling all prospective writers (and wannabes):

i've been working a wee bit on the book review site, but i'm sorely short
of reviews.

submit a review and get your name on the someday fabulous www.bonster.com

come on! all the cool kids will be doing it ;)

-bon

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hkf's,

official site has been updated with summer dates, mostly with dates we knew
about already, but with the following new ones:

06/09/00 philadelphia, pa  mann music center
06/16/00 toronto, on  molson amphitheatre

it's all on my site already, so let me know if you find any new onsale
information!  thanks!!!  and ps: chastain park is the most beautiful outdoor
venue in atlanta and i can't wait!!!  we are fortunate ones, i swear...

a+e=ig

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in a message dated 4/4/00 10:39:00 am pacific daylight time,
amy_indigirl@yahoo.com writes:

> ps, i'm sure it's already been mentioned, but ig are up for 7 glama
>  awards. also, my mom saw a video on the plane on the way to hawaii. i
>  grilled her for about 15 min. to figure out which one it was, but she
>  couldn't tell me anything except that they were on stage and one had
>  brownish hair and one had reddish hair. duh. :)
my sister says you have to enter this.  she is upset because she thinks
lesser known acts should enter, and not people like ig and me, etc. who are
already famous. i really don't know anything about this, maybe someone could
explain to me how this works?  my sister says you are not nominated, you
enter like a contest. does the record company enter you, or what?
--vesper

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>>when you use ballast to weigh down the hull of a boat, you are
stabilizing it.  she's saying that love will be there always to
stabilize the ride.<<

hey, thanks for that insight vicki, i didn't read far enough into that
reference before, but now it make really good sense to me.

jean

--- vicki toye <one85fan@hotmail.com> wrote:
> just to clarify the boating references, someone said:
>
> "....now i see were in the boat in two by two's, only the heart we
> can use
> for a tool, the very close quarters are hard to get used too, love
> weighs
> the
> hull down with it's weight. "
>
> admitinly i've always had trouble with that line, i see that with
> someone in
> your life, you can get a little crowed. the hull of a boat is of
> course the
> bottom, if it is getting weighed down, the boat won't go as fast, the
> boat,
> as we are about to find out, is our lives
>
> when you use ballast to weigh down the hull of a boat, you are
> stabilizing
> it.  she's saying that love will be there always to stabilize the
> ride.
>
> vicki
>
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hey everyone,

good news and bad news about the pu show.

bad news first, family connections aren't working for me and i can't
get any tickets or passes to the show, and worse, they're going to have
a fence up around the field so it'll be difficult to sneak in.

good news, it's an outdoor show and there are lots of place where you
can hang out and watch/hear the concert from a distance.  naturally,
i'm not satisfied with no :) so i'm going anyway and i'll see what i
can do about getting in when i get there.  worse comes to worse i'll be
standing on the sidewalk outside the fence watching with binoculars!

anywho, that's the scoop.  i say come if you're close enough to make
standing at a small distance worth it.

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>question if ya want: has their been an ig song that you really had no idea
>what on earth the song was "about" (loving it of course) and then learned
>the origin later on? (ex: i didnt know language or the kiss was about emilys
>struggle w/ "two" worlds! that song has even more meanings to it now!!)

i guess my answer to that would be how i realised both what a song was
about, and how closely it affected me emotionally....

i first heard love's recovery a couple of years back, and gradually
realised it was about the end of a relationship, and how difficult it is to
come through those times in your life.

after i broke up with chris (my first boyfriend, after i came out), and
heard love's recovery at nff 99, i almost felt like i was going to break
down in tears - i guess it takes a long time to get over that first loss....

anyway,

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i'm not sure, actually. on the glama site, there are some pretty lesser
known musicians on the ballot, although i was kind of surprised at
luscious jackson. but i'm not sure how you enter...  anyone?

> my sister says you have to enter this.  she is upset because she
> thinks
> lesser known acts should enter, and not people like ig and me, etc.
> who are
> already famous. i really don't know anything about this, maybe
> someone could
> explain to me how this works?  my sister says you are not nominated,
> you
> enter like a contest. does the record company enter you, or what?
> --vesper
>

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hey y'all,

i always thought "the wood song" was about noah's ark, but also about the
journey through life, and how it's the events in a life that make it
interesting, and that even the bad times are necessary...

john.

at 23:06 03/04/00 -0500, alyssa wrote:
>hey y'all~
>    long time no post from little ol' me. you haven't gotten rid of me that
>easily. anyhoo... i'm doing my senior project dance to "the wood song" and a
>few people have asked me what it means. i've been having a hard time actually
>figuring it out. my dance teacher says it sounds like she's singing about
>noah's ark. any of y'all wise indigo folks out there have insight into this?

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yep - right here.... i live down in portsmouth, i was born in cornwall...
so i guess i'm from the uk :)

john.

at 03:45 04/04/00 -0500, ellen wrote:
>time to de-lurk very briefly with a question.
>
>is there anyone else on this list from the uk or am i the solo
>representative of my country?  not that i mind or anything, i'd just be
>interested to know.
>
>hello everyone, by the way :-)

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this originally got sent back to me cuz i had the worng adress..silly
me...bear w/ the first part of info about that please!! sorry!!

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whewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww huuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!! yippieeeee!!!!! i
am way excited...ig are comin to duke (durham, nc) now i live in chapel hill
(down the road) and last year or the year before they came to university of
nc (chapel hill) and it sold out. i tried to call the duke box office but
their computers are down adn their office is closed:( i dont know when tix
go on sale or if its open to the public....im soooooooooooooooooooo
excited!!!!!!!they used to play here in chapel hill all the time years and
years ago at the cats cradle, but i was too young then!! ive seen them live
but never been able to see the acoustic set!!!!! i had tix for my gf and
myself for valentines day to see them in va (baothouse) but we were unable
to go...valentines day was also my birthday, so, if we can go this time it
will be like a late bday gift! april 26 at duke, and they are playin april
29 at charolette(which we were goin to anyway but this is in my backyard!!!)
have a great day all!!!!! if anyone has inside info,
ppleeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeee email me!!!

..................."let it be me"....................
                                             ig
cara

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date:         tue, 4 apr 2000 16:36:31 edt
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does anyone have any info on the berkeley ca tracy chapman concert on 4/19??
i can't seem to get ticketmaster.com to give me tix for any event...when i
called ticketmaster they told me they have no seats available - but not
necessarily that it's sold out.. i tried calling berkeley comm theater but
tracy isn't even listen on the recording for april..

so any help would be appreciated..
lisa

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pls dont hate me cause i didnt book mark when others provided the =
info....

can someone email me (or the list) with mp3 sites with ig songs?

gracias everyone & special congrats to sarah pinsker on:

a)  her birthday this week...black & tans for everyone

b)  her new cd!!!!!

bye all.

melissa

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hey everybody!  i made a cdr version of the much beloved problem child tape
that pam made long time ago and distributed to list people on cassette.  you
can now get the 2-cdr set by sending two blanks (try not to buy memorex-sorry
ella but the discs are not compatible with my software--) and a sase to me or
to lisa dupre.  we are going to take on everybody who wants a copy  :)

this tree is in honor of amy ray's birthday  (april 12th) and to revel in the
fact that she is on the mend from surgery.

the a side:
problem child (before it was go)
no way to treat a friend
reunion
cut it out/wish you were here
chickenman
gone again
ballad of squeaky fromme
dead man's hill
shed your skin
forgiveness

the b side:
cortez the killer
blister in the sun
pushing the needle too far
chiapas bound
touch me fall
heartache central time
fugitive
poor jerusalem
three hits
down by the river

bonus cuts for the cdr version:

blood and fire
romeo and juliet
american tune

we ask that you send $1 per jewel case liner to cover printing costs.

contact lisa at:

memememi@aol.com if your birthday is january through june

contact me if your birthday is july through december

enjoy

jude :)

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hey all,

reading all this wood song/noah's ark tangentializing got me
thinking...don't know how many of you are familiar with jeff black (amazing
acoustic singer/songwriter--somewhere in the midpoint between old john
mellencamp and carrie newcomer.  check him out at www.jeffblack.com), but
his song, noah's ark, covers some of the same noah/boat/sticktogether
territory as wood song, and is, in my mind, every bit as beautifully soft
and imagetic...see for yourself:

"if i ever get to heaven
i'll admit i doubted some
i'll tell them everything that happened
and ask them why it took so long
and if they find my tools and timber
that i used to build her strong
i hope the fools that do remember
how on a sea of hope and faith
we drifted home...
...is everybody coming with me
it'll take a little time to settle in
i hope everyone forgives me
because this took a little longer than i planned
you all hold on to one another
and you make damn sure that you don't drift apart
then we'll truck on down this mountain
and we'll find a level place
to make a brand new start..." --jeff black, from "noah's ark"

i think that both use the bible story as a metaphor/parable for coming
together to make it through adversity, to find strength in companianship and
in patience.

take care, all,
shelley
p.s. poets are tasty--eat up! -> www.go.to/themoonlodge
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when my mother found out she had cancer, i sent her this song.

i understand it for her to be;  that your life has been set out for you by
some power greater than you, eventhough it is often times more troubling
than you think it should be.  but you are loved and are being guided by a
loving hand through your troubles.  by staying strong and overcoming
obstacles, lessons will be taught to those who look up to you.

"the prize is always worth the rocky ride" speaks for itself and is - to me
- the most important line.  if you don't face the fear and "tough out" the
the obstacles, the reward won't be as sweet and appreciated, or in emily's
words, "we'll have missed the point."
working towards something and achieving it is one of the greatest feelings
in all human emotion.

true, that this song can be linked to a relationship.  some relationships
are worth "weathering" and doing so only makes the bond stronger.

it takes a strong person to enter the race, but an even stronger one to
finish it.  mind over matter as they say.
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>>question if ya want: has their been an ig song that you really had no idea
>>what on earth the song was "about" (loving it of course) and then learned
>>the origin later on? (ex: i didnt know language or the kiss was about emilys
>>struggle w/ "two" worlds! that song has even more meanings to it now!!)

for me it was fugitive.

originally i thought it was about coming to grips with ones self, in
particular one's sexuality.  kind of two selves -- the public and the
private.  how does one keep the private self alive?

but the line "are they coming for us with cameras or guns/ don't know which
but we gotta run" never really fit well.  i rationalized it as trying to
keep the private self private by avoiding a public outing or gay bashing.

then one day it hit -- amy's talking about me or more specifically us --
her fans.  now i take fugitive as a story of amy trying to keep a private
life in the face of success and all its trappings.  "we are fortunate ones,
fortunate ones i swear!" took on quite the ironic tone.

anyway, if it was emily  i'd think that she wrote it on both levels (btw,
cool discussion on the wood song) but amy is usually not so subtle. ;)

        -- chris

p.s.  *waves* to the baigls -- miss you guys!  i wear the hat everywhere,
no one gets it.

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>question if ya want: has their been an ig song that you really had no idea
>what on earth the song was "about" (loving it of course) and then learned
>the origin later on? (ex: i didnt know language or the kiss was about emilys
>struggle w/ "two" worlds! that song has even more meanings to it now!!)

i guess, for me, it's "joking".  i'm still a bit confused about this
one, actually.  it seems to be to at least contain some kind of story
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about a friend telling someone that he's sick and dying (aids?), and
having all this maudlin stuff going on with his friends about his
impending "death", and then it turns out in the end that he was making
it all up.

does anyone know the story behind this song?

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date:         tue, 4 apr 2000 15:29:20 -0700
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amy s (not r): wrote:
> i was kind of surprised at [the late great] luscious
> jackson.

i believe one kate schellenbach helped there.  i'd
like to see them win something as sort of a goodbye
present.  their breakup is giving me nightmares...over
the weekend i dreamed ig broke up and then last nite i
dreamed some not so happy things happened to amy.
anyway...maybe now kate can join the girls on tour :)

and as far as how folks get selected or what, i have
no idea, but a local woman was nominated last year (or
was it the year before?).

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oh, alyssa.  you couldn't have picked a better song
for your project.  my eyes are getting misty from reading
everyones interpretations.

the wood song is such a beautifully written song, my absolute
favorite song.  i interpret it the same way as everyone else has
in their post.  it's about life, having to deal with all the changes in
life, and sometimes wishing you knew what would happen ahead
of time so you wouldn't make the same mistake again or plan something
better to avoid a bad situation.  but this is how we learn how to live our
lives - by the mistakes we make or the confrontations we face.  it makes
us stronger.  life is a "tricky plan", but i truly believe that god is always
watching over our journey.

i love emily so much - i think she is a gifted writer (my favorite writer) and i
thank
her for writing such a special song.  i can't tell you how many times her songs
have helped me through the tough times (especially that one).

also, i've really enjoyed all the posts about the chicago and eku shows.
i went to uconn and i thought it was one of best shows i've seen.  after
hearing all of your reviews, i can't wait  to see them in durham, nh and colby
(waterville, me).  i know its only been 2 months since uconn, but i miss them.
one can get really spoiled by seeing more than one show a year, not to mention
more personally attached (as if i thought i could be anymore attached).

take care
cathy

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hi
can someone please tell me how to get the digest version of this list?
thanks in advance
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i love this song and always have...
when my brother passed away some kind soul on the message board on the epic
site quoted parts of this song to me...and it really seemed fitting...so
maybe that is one more outtake...
peace and love,
           carrie
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    is it sinking into gossip to stop and think about the time in emily's
life when the wood song was written?  the love imagery in the first verse
especially pops out when one considers the fact that in the swamp ophelia era
of her life, she was getting together with her current girlfriend while
remaining friends/owning watershed with a previous girlfriend (as well as her
current gf and another woman).   "now i see we're in the boat in two by
twos...and the very close quarters are hard to get used to, love weighs the
hull down with its weight"  and "maybe steer us clear from some of the pain
it took...to get us where we are this far yeah".  perhaps this is some
insight into how the song applied to her life and why she wrote it.  this is
just my theory, of course.

just a thought, and i am sorry if this is getting too personal.  i don't
intend to invade anyone's privacy.

lisa

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does anyone know about the girls coming to the alltel pavilion in raleigh on
june 4?  i heard something on the radio about it?  is it true?

ms

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hello all....i have never posted here before, and i'm not sure if
this has already been asked or not, (and i'm really sorry if it
has!!), but this has been driving me absolutely crazy......in
"trouble,"  during the "sacks of flour and rice......walk on
pluto...but we'd be no closer to the understanding" verse, someone,
i'm pretty sure it's amy, is saying some words in the background. i
was wondering if anyone knew what she's saying, because every time it
comes to that last part all i hear is "what i would wish for with a
monkey hand."  am i the only one hearing these things?!
peace,
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haven't seen this on the list, but maybe i deleted it.  halfway over, can
listen at cities97.com for a limited time.  anyone recording this?


columbia radio hour broadcast

below is a partial list of stations that will be broadcasting tonight's show
either live or in the near future. the show starts at 10pm est - call your
local station for details!


*   kamx - austin, tx
*   kbac - santa fe, nm
*   kbco - boulder, co
*   koty - omaha, ne
*   kfxj - meridian, id
*   klrr - bend, or
*   kozt - mendicino, ca
*   kdut - ignato, co
*   ktcz - minneapolis, mn
*   kxsp - san diego, ca
*   wats - acron, oh
*   wccn - wi
*   woot - st john, vt


*       wfuv - bronx, ny
*   wkze - sharon, ct
*   wmfo - tufte university
*   wmmn - madison, wi
*   wmzy - vineyard haven, ma
*   wncf - montpelier, vt
*   wrjt - white river junction, vt
*   wxpn - philadelphia, pa
*   wxrt - chicago, il
*   wxrv - haverhill, ma
*   kfog - san francisco, ca
*   wdst - woodstock, ny
*   wrnr - baltimore, md

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> official site has been updated with summer dates, mostly with dates we knew
> about already, but with the following new ones:
>
> 06/09/00 philadelphia, pa  mann music center
> 06/16/00 toronto, on  molson amphitheatre

coming out of lurkdom for a moment to say: yippeeee!
they're coming to canada! finally!
also, just wondering how many listees are
from the toronto/montreal/ottawa
area (and who are planning to go the show)?

sandy :)

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did  anyone get  this on boot?   please contact me.

thanks

barb

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did anybody get a boot of this ?   i have  a bunch of blank cdr's,  and
would be willing to pay  postage ( and cover art work  if you do any,
let me know what kind however..)

peace,


barb

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good evening all!

does anyone know anything about or plan on going to the nashville show may
7th?  i heard it was a free show.  could this be an evil joke a non-ig fan
is playing on me?  any info. would be appreciated.

peace,
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just a little announcement for anyone going to sun fest in palm beach florida
and also an announcement for anyone here in the windy city...

the opening act for this show (sun fest) is scheduled to be the cathy
richardson band (www.crband.com). the reason that i mention this is that
cathy's a local girl (from chicago) and she happens to be a friend of mine.
she snuck me in to see ann wilson (her idol) once because i was underage. i
ran into her in the restroom at the chcago theater for the indigo girls show
last december. i'd known her for a while but never knew she was an ig fan.
turns out that she's a huge fan and she told me recently that she's opening
for them in florida. i'm just a broke college kid who can't afford to get to
florida... unless i can convince her to let me tag along. anyways, i just
wanted to assure any of y'all that are going that you're getting one hell of
an opening act. cathy and the boys rock, and i'm not just saying that cause
they're friends.

on another note, i though i'd pass along this information from wxrt chicago's
website:

xrt sunday night concert
sunday, april 23rd 8-9pm
- indigo girls and the jayhawks
a live double-bill recorded earlier this month in atlanta, ga.

xrt has been good to the girls so make sure you listen and support both the
ig and xrt, basically one of the last supportable commercial radio stations
left around here.

okay, that is all. over and out

jax

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i got this from the performing songwriter web page.  you can vote at
http://www.performingsongwriter.com


who are your choices for
"a century of women in music?"

this year we are paying tribute to women who have affected change in the
music industry over this last century. each issue of 2000 will have our
different editors' top choices, but we really want to know who our readers
feel have made the greatest impact on the industry.

please take a few minutes and send in your choices of women in the industry.
we'll gather all of the votes and print our readers' choices for a century
of women in music in the january/ february 2001 issue of performing
songwriter magazine.

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hey all!! amy and emily are gonna make the best of nc while there here!!
ok... here it is...

1.duke univ. april 26th in the quad (outside) and the box office is pretty
sure its free free but when i called to see if it was open to the public i
just the ans mach...more on that one later.

2.again, they will be in charlotte on the 29th. (waiting to hear about how
to get tickets!)

3. this one is not on any ig website ive been to...but...sunday, june 4th,
they will be at altell pavilion at walnut creek in raleigh!! (full band) a
friend of mine said she heard sumtin on the radio about them comin so i
checked out the pavilions web site and sure enough there it was!

5. dameon records aniversarry tour will be tearin' through chapel hill nc in
may (the 5th??) and the web site that amy will be there at this show, though
the cats cradle (amy and emily played there all the time back in the day!!)
flyer for the month didnt specify anything!
(chapel hill was kinda like thier second home back in the day! of course i
was only in jr at the time!) [only22]

4. johnas and eziekial (cant sp member!) tid bit fact : the line "a bullet
in the head, now he's dead, a friend of friend someone said, he was an
activist w/ a very short life, i think theres a lesson here, he died w/ out
a fight" was written about  the former owner of the internationalist
bookstore here in chapel hill who was shot and killed. (internationalist is
'our kind' of bookstore w/ literature, mags, books, and bumperstickers
on/about women, gays and lesbians, political issues, all around extremely
liberal bookstore. promotes activism heavily, hence "was an activist.") i
believe (dont quote me on this) he was a friend/ aquentice of the girls!
every time i go into that bookstore i hear that song and think of them!! its
just extra special for me to hear sumtin about "my" town!!

have a superiffic day! i may get to see the girls 3x in one week!! woa!!

cara
............."im not ready for the dead to show their face"...........
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do you think danny still has the ring emily gave him?
i suppose he laughed at her or whatever, causing the embarrassment that made
her write the song...but do you think he saved the ring?
or do you think he never took it?


i bet, if he didn't, that he listens to the song occasionally and gets all
annoyed that he threw away a piece of musical history.  but he of course, he
also got to be *part* of the history & the impetus for a  great song....

ha, i bet he laughs though!


carol
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just in case you have any family members who were thinking about voting
for bush, here are some stats.  one additional bit of info is that
george w. executed the first woman (carla faye tucker) since the death
penalty has been reinstated, and, i believe, has also executed the 2nd
woman.  he has enough (too much) power already, let's stop him from
getting anymore!

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in a message dated 04/04/2000 5:27:47 pm central daylight time,
chadnjen@prodigy.net writes:

<< did you know.....
>> >
>> the state of texas, under the leadership of governor george w. bush,
>>is ranked:
>>
>> 50th. spending for teachers salaries
>> 49th. spending on the environment
>> 1st. % of poor working parents w/o insurance
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>> 42nd. child support collections
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>> 1st. % of children without insurance
>> 48th. per capita funding for public health
>> 1st. air and water pollution
>> 41st. per capita spending on public education
>> 1st. executions (avg. 1 every 2 weeks for bush's 5 years)
>>
>> just think of what he could do for the country if he were
>>president....
>>
>> just food for thought...............
>>
>> just pass this on to as many as people (registered voters) as
>>possible to ensure that we vote like we would wish our elected officials
would... >> i.e., not strictly along party lines.  neither democrats nor
republicans should >>cast their ballot for their party nominee simply because
of political party affiliation.

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>>did you know.....
>> >
>> the state of texas, under the leadership of governor george w. bush,
>>is ranked:
>>
>> 50th. spending for teachers salaries
>> 49th. spending on the environment
>> 1st. % of poor working parents w/o insurance
>> 47th. delivery of social services
>> 42nd. child support collections
>> 5th. % of population living in poverty
>> 1st. % of children without insurance
>> 48th. per capita funding for public health
>> 1st. air and water pollution
>> 41st. per capita spending on public education
>> 1st. executions (avg. 1 every 2 weeks for bush's 5 years)
>>
>> just think of what he could do for the country if he were
>>president....
>>
>> just food for thought...............
>>
>> just pass this on to as many as people (registered voters) as
>>possible
>>to ensure that we vote him out of any opportunity of being president.
>
>
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i bet, if he didn't, that he listens to the song occasionally and gets all
annoyed that he threw away a piece of musical history.  but he of course, he
also got to be *part* of the history & the impetus for a  great song....

---i wonder if he even listens to ig.  it could be that he has no idea.
just a thought.  but if he does i bet he does laugh. :)

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<<just in case you have any family members who were thinking
about voting for bush, here are some stats... i believe, has
also executed the 2nd woman.>>

yup (one excecution a week in primary season).

he grates upon my very soul.

some bumper stickers i have aquired (might have a spare or two
if you want)

:: gwbush - not a crackhead anymore
:: read my lips - no new bushes
:: gwbush - it's the hypocricy stupid!
(all obtainable from www.gwbush.com, which has many anti-bush
links)

neil also likes this cartoon:
http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/1999/08/16/tomo/index.html

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for those of you in the vicinity of wfuv (90.7) -- fordham university's
radio station (bronx, ny) -- i emailed them to find out when the columbia
records hour (with the indigo girls, taped last night) would be broadcast.
this was the response:

the columbia records hour will be broadcast on wfuv on weds. april 26th at
8pm.

of course, the irony of this is that i know that i will have to miss it.  so
a request: if someone taped the broadcast last night -- or will tape it at
some future broadcast date -- could i please get a copy?

thanks,
ruth
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i haven't spewed much random commentary lately - i've mostly been too
busy - but here's one.

yesterday i was majorly freaking because last night was my first art
history class. the thought of lecturing for 2 hours in front of 10
perfect strangers was driving me batty. i leave work, late and
frazzled, to head down to cupertino for the class, and i get in the
car, craving "galileo". it's my comfort song. i pull out the only disc
i have with "galileo" on it, which usually works just fine in my cd
player,  but it just won't work. i try about three times and then give
up, clicking on the radio. the announcer is talking for about two
seconds and then i hear a very familiar voice saying, "we're the indigo
girls" and a very live version of "galileo" starts playing.

i guess it was taped at the private concert they had with alice when in
sf. the dj said it raised $18,000 for breast cancer research. pretty
cool. anyhow, i'm still marvelling over that very odd moment. we all
know how little airplay the girls get...

*shrug*
love,
amy

ps - the class went great!

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> > 06/16/00 toronto, on  molson amphitheatre
>
>coming out of lurkdom for a moment to say: yippeeee!
>they're coming to canada! finally!
>also, just wondering how many listees are
>from the toronto/montreal/ottawa
>area (and who are planning to go the show)?

why does my life suck soooo much? i would so be at this show if i didn't
have to be at pre-camp near ottawa on june 12th. this happens every single
year...i've never ever seen the girls because they're always in toronto
during the summer, and that's when i'm always at camp. next year i'm asking
for some not-seeing-ig condolence pay.
sigh!
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the site has been updated for the center city fest where the ig will be
playing on stage 1, saturday evening @ 10:30.  for the other happenings and
performers for this weekend:

http://www.centercityfest.com

also, i know this venue well and was thinking about setting up a list meet.
lemme know if anyone attending is interested.  seems their going to be in nc
quite a bit and if any of you are planning on attending a few of the
concerts and want to make a party of it, let me know that too. carrie klein
(sp) please email me, i have two free tickets for you to the springfest
event.

parker

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508 east blvd.
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can someone help me out with a good response?  i myself am not sure why
i find it so upsetting that he executed the 1st and 2nd women in ages
and ages, except for the fact that men commit so many more violent
crimes than women.

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ok, by no means am i a supporter of bush, but i do not understand
something here.  why does the fact that he had a woman executed make him
even worse?  is it worse to kill a female criminal than it is a male?
if the death penalty is in place, and a female has committed a crime
that calls for the death penalty as a sentence, why wouldn't he advocate
for it?  if you're against the death penalty, that's across the board -
not just for the girls.

let the backlash begin,
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but i'm tired of wasting time in transit."
i say, "if you want to find out where
the road goes, get in the fast lane
and hit the gas."

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"i myself am not sure why
i find it so upsetting that he executed the 1st and 2nd women in ages
and ages, except for the fact that men commit so many more violent
crimes than women.

i have to agree on a few levels.and i have to admit that for the last 3 years or so i have been totally out of the public issues arena so please excuse any "stupid comments"........
i am concerned that people find so much in the fact that it is women he has carried out the court wishes on execution. i wonder how many men also met with the same fate during his tenure.....

true there should be no difference in the judgement given the crimes were of the same nature. if there were pretenses or proof to show justifiable homicide, battered womans syndrom, or self defense.......then perhaps there was a malvesiance of office and judgement ...by w as well as the court system.
i do not believe the death penalty acts as a deterrent and therefore do not agree with it wholeheartedly.

i would here say that if a devastating crime or abuse was carried out against my family, my friends or my child that i would not be for the death penalty...but more along the lines of a single bullet...just after the guilty verdict......

i also believe, as having worked in the legal arena for a short time in the criminal justice realm that women do not receive the competent representation, many time....not all the time..., that they should or would be they male. but this  is the same with many  minorities.....it is unfortunate the lady justice who is supposed to be blind....well ...she isn't...too many seeing eye dogs ( attorneys, prosecuting , district and criminal ) who find only victory at the expense of a female defendant.....when she finds only defeat.

okay...said too much probably...and probably not clear......sparkie

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i'm almost positive that you find it so upsetting because of the whole
"man killing a woman" image that it brings to your mind.  not that i'm
exactly for the death penalty, but i do have to agree with nicholas...
if punishments are meted out according to gender and not according to
the criminal law statutes, then where is the equality?

nancy golumbia wrote:
>
> can someone help me out with a good response?  i myself am not sure why
> i find it so upsetting that he executed the 1st and 2nd women in ages
> and ages, except for the fact that men commit so many more violent
> crimes than women.
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> subject: re: [fwd: fwd: "w" facts]
> date: wed, 05 apr 2000 12:02:18 -0400
> from: nicholas setteducato <nicholag@sas.upenn.edu>
> to: nancy golumbia <nancyg2@sas.upenn.edu>
> cc: qsa-discuss@dolphin.upenn.edu
> references: <38eb4da0.20efd3e4@sas.upenn.edu>
>
> ok, by no means am i a supporter of bush, but i do not understand
> something here.  why does the fact that he had a woman executed make him
> even worse?  is it worse to kill a female criminal than it is a male?
> if the death penalty is in place, and a female has committed a crime
> that calls for the death penalty as a sentence, why wouldn't he advocate
> for it?  if you're against the death penalty, that's across the board -
> not just for the girls.
>
> let the backlash begin,
> nick
>
> --
> "people say life's a journey,
> but i'm tired of wasting time in transit."
> i say, "if you want to find out where
> the road goes, get in the fast lane
> and hit the gas."
>
> -calvin and hobbes
> -=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-
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ok! could someone tell me how ya do that thinga majiggy when people respond
w/ part of a persons email or a part of article on the post? since i cant
figure out how to do that i thought i would just breifly tell yas that if
you go that link that was listed to vote influental women and click on
march/april issue (editor picks) you'll see among, countless others, this
editor included indigo girls, ani, and sarah mcgluaghlin!!!! she does an
awsome job of summerizing what they each have done that is admirable!! i
wish i could summerize sometimes!!!! k..im gonna go vote on my favs now!!
(including these three!!)

btw...i love those post on the woodsong and res to my ig thought!! emily and
amy just have an amazing way of choosing their words,creating intricate
imagery, and profound symbolizm to speak of ideals and truths both simple
and challenging! other "writers" may have simply said "life is hard but dont
give up, everything happens for a reason, god is always with you" etc, but
how much more impacting is that basic message w/ the creative genious ig
bring to us!! we can read between the lines, break it down literally, take
it apart symbolicaly, get lost in the imagery, take it a face value,
interpert it so as to fit our lives and what we are currently goin through,
etc. and all of that is possible with the way in which their songs are
crafted!! i dont think any one of their songs has just one meaning. the
songs (especially wood song) seem to have a life of their own and just keep
evolving and changing each time you (i) play 'em!! damn i just love em these
gals!!

cara
...........adding up the total of a love thats true, multiply life by the
power of two"....................power of 2 - ig

(that is one solid math equation. adding,total, multiply and i just now
relized that "power of two" is in of itself a math thing!im a lil slow! i
always hated math, but, i guess everything really is an equation!)
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> .  why does the fact that he had a woman executed make him
> even worse?  is it worse to kill a female criminal than it is a male?
> if the death penalty is in place, and a female has committed a crime
> that calls for the death penalty as a sentence, why wouldn't he advocate
> for it?  if you're against the death penalty, that's across the board -
> not just for the girls.

my personal theory why he put a woman to death, was that he was trying to show
everybody "what a fair man he is" - she was his scapegoat.  by putting a white
woman to death, he wanted to show us that he was not arbitrarily putting
people of color, predominantly males, to death.   isn't everyone so relieved
to see that poor mr. g. dublya bush is just a misunderstood guy?  see, he's an
equal opportunites killer.

in no way am i making a statement for or against the death penalty . . .
that's another topic of discussion that i'll stay out of . . . then again,
maybe i won't.

elaine

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is anyone going to the imf demonstration in dc on april 16?  if would be
cool if i ended up seeing listees there.  it is going to be crazy.  if
you go, don't forget your gas mask.

erica

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on wed, 5 apr 2000, elaine bean wrote:

> isn't everyone so relieved to see that poor mr. g. dublya bush is just a
> misunderstood guy?  see, he's an equal opportunites killer.

   i don't know about the whole equality thing -- i mean, he never put any
black stuff up his nose...

   darius

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erica,

"is anyone going to the imf demonstration in dc on april 16? if you go,
don't forget your gas mask."

why do you suggest bringing a gas mask?  i assume this was a touch of
sarcasm?  i won't be there, but my best friend will be.  i have to admit i
don't know much about what will be going on or why..  do you have any info i
can look at?

phillip soloweszyk
systems engineer, teksystems
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yes, elaine, what you say sounds right, and frightening.  i think when it comes
down to it i'm really just nauseated by the number of poor people of color which
are executed under the death penalty, as if people poor people of color are more
evil and more dangerous than the rich and/or white counterparts.  and maybe i'm
just really angry that he used a white woman as a scapegoat.

elaine bean wrote:

> > .  why does the fact that he had a woman executed make him
> > even worse?  is it worse to kill a female criminal than it is a male?
> > if the death penalty is in place, and a female has committed a crime
> > that calls for the death penalty as a sentence, why wouldn't he advocate
> > for it?  if you're against the death penalty, that's across the board -
> > not just for the girls.
>
> my personal theory why he put a woman to death, was that he was trying to show
> everybody "what a fair man he is" - she was his scapegoat.  by putting a white
> woman to death, he wanted to show us that he was not arbitrarily putting
> people of color, predominantly males, to death.   isn't everyone so relieved
> to see that poor mr. g. dublya bush is just a misunderstood guy?  see, he's an
> equal opportunites killer.
>
> in no way am i making a statement for or against the death penalty . . .
> that's another topic of discussion that i'll stay out of . . . then again,
> maybe i won't.
>
> elaine
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elaine wrote:
  > see, he's an equal opportunites killer.
bravo, elaine! that's what some folks forget in the death penalty issue;
it's still killing.
deb

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sorry for the waste of bandwidth, but i knew the day would eventually come -
it's time to get rid of my 500+ bootleg cassettes.  after collecting live
concert tapes for the better part of the last 10 years, i have made the jump
to digital - specifically cdr's.  i am not looking to make a lot of money
off of these tapes, but rather get the tapes into the hands of people that
will appreciate them and can get good use out of them.  this would be a
great starter set of shows for a new tape trader.

i would prefer to sell these only as a complete set....at least initially.
i have decided that each tape is worth $2.00 apiece - when you take into
account the cost of the tape, printing j cards (cassette case liners),
postage for trading the tapes with others and wear and tear on my decks -
not too mention the vast amount of time spent gathering all these,
cataloging them, grading them etc.

i am including the following list of indigo girls tapes available.  there
are a total of 22 cassettes.  i do not have the set lists typed up, i would
recommend lifeblood or another internet site which may have the set list.

the set is available for $44 plus $5 for packing and shipping.

if you are interested, please email me privately at:  mike@plantiv.com or
luzi@midwest.net


venue, city, date, quality, source, tapes, notes

london, u.k, 11/6/89, a-, aud xliis 90,  last four songs on 2nd tape maxell
ur 60
ridge theater, vancouver, bc, 12/4/89, a-, aud, xlii 90
orpheum, boston, ma, 4/28/90, a-, aud, tdk sa90
bottomline, 4/10/93, b+, aud, xlii 180
?, minneapolis, 4/17/93, a, aud, xlii 100
orpheum, minneapolis, 6/23/92, a-, aud, xl 100
paramount theater, boulder, co, unknown, a-, aud, xliis 90, n.i.s. tour
ft. adams, newport f.f., 8/8/93, a-, aud, xlii 90
cooper seay & jan dykes, urban nirvana, atlanta, 11/93, a, aud, xlii 90, 45
mins, on same tape as urban nirvana
indigo girls urban nirvana, atlanta 11/93 a aud xlii 90 side 2 45 mins
amherst college, amherst, ma, 4/23/94, a-, aud, xlii 100
great woods, boston, ma, 7/1/94, b+, aud, xlii 90
red rocks, denver, co, 8/12/94, a, aud, xlii 100
?, charleston, sc, 2/7/95, b+, aud, xlii 180
eddies attic, athens, ga, 4/24/96, a-, aud, xlii 90, flunkies
paolo soleri, santa fe, nm, 8/9/96, a-, aud, xlii 90
ft. adams, newport f.f., 8/11/96, a-, aud, xlii 100
roseland, nyc, 8/14/96, a-, aud, xlii, 190, w/ michelle malone
honor the earth, minneapolis, 9/20/96, b+, aud, ur 90


these are available on a first come, first serve basis.  i cannot trade any
of these at this time.  i also have many other band shows available,
including 10,000 maniacs, neil young, grateful dead, rem.  email me if
interested.

thanks,

mike

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excluding gunpowder???

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>
>    i don't know about the whole equality thing -- i mean, he never put any
> black stuff up his nose...

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hey folks, anybody planning on going to this? i was just wondering if
somebody that's been to one of these before could email me and give me kind
of a run down on how it works...i called the box office at northern illinois
u, and the woman laughed at me when i asked if there were still tickets
available...i guess they're not expecting a big crowd. hm. ok. well, i'll be
there with a couple friends if anyone wants to get together.
lia
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i have decided that each tape is worth $2.00 apiece
>>>

(a) first off this should be correctly dubbed as a tape liquidation.  the
word 'sale' is a little misleading like you're going to make money on this.

(b) secondly i've never heard of $2.00 a piece for a liquidation.  $1.50
(for xlii) & $1.75 (for xlii-s) is about normal and this is accounting only
for the cost of the tape.  normally you don't account for the other costs of
trading including artwork and postage and therefore i think you need to
rethink your idea of 'breaking-even'.

this has been a friendly reminder by the mikesta - your tape-trading indigo
police ociffer.

a+e=ig

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thanks for all the inquiries....but they are sold!!

--mike

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don't think i saw an answer to this:

>i found the power of 2 epic single with rockin in the free world live!
>question.  i paid $6.99 for this, used.  is it ethical to buy used cds like
>this, making profits for the store but not for the artist? or do they get
>royalties from resales?

short answers: yes and no.

long answers:
yes, ethical because (presumably) the disc was bought and paid for in the
first place so they got their money.

and no, they don't get royalties from resales, but then neither does ford
when you sell your car, nor stephen king when you buy his book second hand
book. or pretty much anything else that is brought and resold...

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>can someone help me out with a good response?  i myself am not sure why
>i find it so upsetting that he executed the 1st and 2nd women in ages
>and ages, except for the fact that men commit so many more violent
>crimes than women.

to me, the primary reason why it's profoundly disturbing that the only two
women to receive capital punishment in the us since the civil war have been
executed on gw bush's watch is that this fact punctuates gwb's record on the
death penalty, generally.  this is of course oversimplifying a very complex
issue, but an appropriate corollary to "he's killed two women" might be "so
can you imagine how many *men* he's put to death?"

also -- and this is part of what's going on in "faye tucker" -- invoking the
image of a woman being executed is a potent tactic.  it makes an effective
soundbite.

ruth
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not that mr. paluzzi needs any sort of defense - how dare you rip him for 2
bucks a tape - xl2 are sometime 3 bucks a tape and he's providing cover
art -

i know mike personally - we lived in the same dorm for two years - he
never - ever would make $$ off a tape - two bucks is more than fair - fyi -
i plan on doing the same thing soon - one buck if it is normal bias - two if
it's high - mike has covers for all his ig stuff

(not to mentioned he "miracled" me the best rem show i ever saw on cd...)


mike r.

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if this has anything to do with the completely mis informed people who
protested in boston last week, good luck to you - and yes, i'll admit i went
to bio 2000, it was really quite amazing (chris reeve was cool, but eric
lander the head of the genome project was more interesting.)

as for the protesters, i never heard so much mis information in my life
about genetically engineered food, genomics, etc. as a reporter i found it
amusing, but at least know the science you are protesting.

as for the gas mask thing - biodevastation is trying to portray themselves
as the next "wto" (besides the sunday parade, their numbers were minimal
throughout the week, i only saw monday.) they had police barricades around
the conference- it was a bit bizarre...in boston none the less.

i am all for dissent - but try to inform yourselves - and make sure who you
are allied with....

fmi on biodevastation 2000 www.biodev.org (they didn't even try to contact
media, i found it after the fact...

bio 2000 - do a web search - the official page is at www.bio.org


peace-
mike r.

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hi
i'm only able to trade analog.please email if interested
peace
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sorry for the personal message.....
julie libes, my messages to you have been returned.....
to answer your question...i need 1 ticket.
my phone is (404) 892-7919.
talk to you soon?????
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ruth sternglantz wrote:

> >can someone help me out with a good response?  i myself am not sure why
> >i find it so upsetting that he executed the 1st and 2nd women in ages
> >and ages, except for the fact that men commit so many more violent
> >crimes than women.
>
> to me, the primary reason why it's profoundly disturbing that the only two
> women to receive capital punishment in the us since the civil war have been
> executed on gw bush's watch is that this fact punctuates gwb's record on the
> death penalty, generally.  this is of course oversimplifying a very complex
> issue, but an appropriate corollary to "he's killed two women" might be "so
> can you imagine how many *men* he's put to death?"

ruth, i think this is pretty much right on, as recently talked about by my
girlfriend.  thanks for your insight, and to everyone else also.  it's kind of
funny that (if anyone from this list noticed that message was from a queer
listserve here at penn) that person's response to me was suppported by quite a
few others on the penn list, while many here on the ig's list did not (at least
outwardly) agree.

anyway, thanks for your help.

nancy

>
>
> also -- and this is part of what's going on in "faye tucker" -- invoking the
> image of a woman being executed is a potent tactic.  it makes an effective
> soundbite.
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   what riles me about the whole death penalty issue with gov. bush is that in practically the next breath, he tells us how jesus is the one person who most influenced his life, and, i'm not a christian, but jesus spoke out against capital punishment, i.e., turn the other cheek.
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remember when we were talking about writing in amy for prez? well i'm still
gonna do it. spread the word! amy ray for prez 2k...

> -----original message-----

> he has enough (too much) power already, let's stop him from
> getting anymore!
>
> nancy
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this thursday, april 6th, 9pm, michelle malone is
playing a free show at cappucino joe's (on the emory
university campus).

this atlanta-based singer/songwriter is an incredibly
talented musician.  she is one of those amazing acts
you see that leave you breathless (and on that
endorphin high we're all so fond of).  best of all,
she's organic, not selling out to the pressures of the
large record label music industry.  read, forward to
all your friends, see her live, understand my
enthusiasm to tell you about her.

love,
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does anyone know how to find out when tickets go on sale for the show this june
at the mann music center in phila?  i want good seats.

nancy

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according to the mit list of radio stations - wfuv
b'cast over the web - using media player - however a
b'cast of radio itself taped would be better

mjr
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> fordham university's
> radio station (bronx, ny) -- i emailed them to find
> out when the columbia
> records hour (with the indigo girls, taped last
> night) would be broadcast.
> this was the response:
>
> the columbia records hour will be broadcast on wfuv
> on weds. april 26th at
> 8pm.
>
> of course, the irony of this is that i know that i
> will have to miss it.  so
> a request: if someone taped the broadcast last night
> -- or will tape it at
> some future broadcast date -- could i please get a
> copy?
>
> thanks,
> ruth
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hello.
just out of curiousity...how *big* are the venues that indigo girls are
playing this summer? are they bigger than usual for their summer tours? i'm
seeing ampitheater more than i remember in past years. okay, just had to ask
that question. it's been running through my head. thanks. :)
peace,
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i think  it is on the larger side of venues, but they have played at places
like chastain park before...as a matter of fact that was the first place i
ever saw the girls...it was  great show...i will never forget that weekend
as long as i live...
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does anyone know who is opening for the girls on saturday?

just curious.  *wriggles*

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hi all...
just wondering how many on the list will be at the tampa show on may 5th.
anyone up for a list meet??  also, any info/opinions on the butchies would be
greatly appreciated!  thanks in advance...
*heather*

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<<06/09/00 philadelphia, pa  mann music center >>


my calander has been marked :)  nothing can turn a day around like hearing
about an ig concert w/in a half hour of yer house.  that'll be # 5 this year,
9 since the new album tour :)
(the other) jill

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> does anyone know who is opening for the girls on saturday?
>
> just curious.  *wriggles*

        the opener is danielle howle, who is traveling tantrum-free.

        mandy
        who was kinda hoping for michelle....

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ok, i just had to share that my cd release rocked last night. my hired-gun
band, who i had never played with before, aced it. i had so much fun. best
of all, i got asked to do a weekly gig there through the end of may!  life
is great...now if only i can make enough to quit my day job...anyway, a
bunch of people asked me to keep them informed on my dates, but i don't want
to keep announcing, so here's the short version. visit
http://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=sarah%20pinsker  for details on
any of these shows, or e-mail me.
fri april 7 oxford, ny - night eagle cafe, with sonia
sun april 9 saratoga, ny with sonia - (not definite)
tuesdays in april baltimore, md  - buddies pub
wed april 12 timonium, md - bibelot book store cd signing
sat april 15  washington dc youth pride festival, washington dc (early
afternoon)
sat april 15 towson, md goucher college springfest y2k, opening for jimmies
chicken shack,  (late afternoon)
fri april 21 ovett, ms, gulf coast womyn's music festival
sat april 29 washington dc phil ochs tribute concert - cheaper and cooler
than equality rocks - people for the american way benefit - with sonia and
others
tuesdays in may, baltimore, md buddies pub
june 10, baltimore pride festival (hopefully)
june 23-25 atlanta pride festival (don't know what day)

check the cd out at
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/b00004ssld/103-8230857-6463046 - if
you like it, you can write a review and rate it and stuff now (i'm thrilled
by the small things). and if you really like it, please vote for me on
http://www.outvoice.com

end of commercial -
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the columbia records radio hour was broadcast live here on wxrv out of
haverhill, massachusetts.  the only thing was that the sound kept cutting out
throughout the whole broadcast.  the jayhawks performed 1st and did a total
of five songs with amy and emily joining them on their last one.  then when
it came time for the indigo girls to play their set they got through 2 and a
half songs when the sound cut off completely.  it was right in the middle of
gone again.  the station went "dead air" for about thirty seconds when the dj
came on and announced that the venue was having trouble with their sound.
there was nothing the radio station could do about it.  i don't know if they
plan to rebroadcast the show at a later date but i was bummed!  the dj said
that they may send them a copy of the show at a later date to be rebroadcast.

-kristin

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hi everyone. i was just wondering if anyone out there was going to the
scranton cultural center show on the 9th (i think that's this sunday?). i am
going to try to get tickets today seeing how i just found out about it last
night. i hope there are still some available. well if anyone else is going
let me know, maybe we can meet up. my gf and i will be going. also i was
wondering if anyone knew the best way to get good seats for the mann music
center when the tics go on sale?
peace and love,
jess

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tickets went onsale via ticketmaster for the may 7th date on march
31st.  they are general admission so it doesn't matter that you're
buying late.  i didn't find them under indigo girls but under a venue
search.  can anyone tell me about the river stages event?  thanks.

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they are playing the mann music center in phili and that is a pretty
big place.  so i would assume these are large venue shows.

jean

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> hello.
> just out of curiousity...how *big* are the venues that indigo girls
> are
> playing this summer? are they bigger than usual for their summer
> tours? i'm
> seeing ampitheater more than i remember in past years. okay, just had
> to ask
> that question. it's been running through my head. thanks. :)
> peace,
> becky
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hello all!

the first person to email me privately can have one au ticket @ $10.  i'll
need cash or a check in the mail, then i'll mail the ticket to you.

vicki
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subject:      university of chicago cd boot (and more!) offered

hi, folks,

i have a cd boot of the university of chicago show (last week) that
i'm going to offer up to the list.  please keep reading for details.

the boot is amazing quality.  i've been doing this for a long time,
and this is honestly the best one i've ever made.  why?  (1)  the
people around me were dead quiet, so there's practically no background
noise at all.  (2) we were up so close that the microphone actually
picked up some of a&e's chat that didn't go into the microphone.  (3)
even though we were front row, the sound quality is really good.  for
those of you who are sticklers about quality, most of the boots of the
yale show in '95 are copies from my original; i'd give that one an a-
and this one an a/a+.

instead of sending me cd-rs and sases, though, i'm going to run this
as a fundraiser for the california aids ride (www.aidsride.org).  i'm
doing the ride with a few of my friends, and two of them haven't yet
made their minimum pledge requirements which are due soon.

here's how this will work.  you send me a check for $25 (or more)
written out to the "california aids ride" and a completed donation
form (i'll send you a blank one by email) via snail mail.  when i get
your check i'll burn you a cd and mail it out asap.  then i'll mail
your check in to the aids ride office.  note:  you can make this
pledge by credit card--how often can you get an ig boot by credit card
and still not be buying it???

**bonus: for a $50 contribution to the aids ride you can have the u.
of c. boot and a copy of newport '98, also on cd.  for a $75
contribution i'll add the house of blues show from chicago back in
february, too.  and for $100 you can have the previous three and the
yale show from '95.**

[a note to the flamers, not to be confused with the flamer who i'll be
riding with and who already hit y'all up for dough a couple of weeks
ago:   i'm not selling this boot, i'm simply forcing a charitable
contribution.  other than the coercion part i think that trading boots
(that is, exchanging them for no profit) and funding charities are
very ig activities, so i'm hoping they would approve.  this is my
logic.]


still interested?  ok.  here's what to do:

(1) send me an email at: mclayton@mindspring.com with the subject line
"boot offer."  (i delete 99% of the email that comes to this account,
so this is to help me identify your message as non-spam.)  in this
message tell me how many which boots you want.

(2) i will reply to this message, confirming your "order," sending you
a copy of the pledge form in adobe pdf format, and giving your
instructions for what to do next (which will be filling out the form,
mailing it and your check to me, and waiting for your boots to
arrive).

so, folks, the aids ride is a great event and it will raise many
millions of dollars for aids research and care.  sponsoring a rider is
an awesome thing to do in the first place (seriously good karma), so
how can you resist combining this excellence with that of listening to
the ig's music?

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anyone know when boston tickets are going on sale? is it going to be
ticketmaster? cause there's nothing there yet....

thanks

diane

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hello!!!  what is the website addy to find a list of these summer shows?

thanks!
marci

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http://www.indigogirls.com

click on the tour secton once you get in!

megan (o:,'

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hello!!!  what is the website addy to find a list of these summer shows?

thanks!
marci

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forwarded from the ig message board:

for anyone wanting to go to ig concert on 6-20 at ravinia in
highland park, il - when i called ravinia yesterday to get ticket
information, i was told tickets would not go on sale until 6:00 a.m. on
friday, 4-7. its thursday afternoon, 1:30, and i was just at their
website, which is www.ravinia.org and the
tickets are on sale now. i just wanted to pass this along to all
interested in getting tickets. get in there and get them now! good luck,
and have a good indigo day!

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as far as a song i didn't understand, i'd have to say "secure yourself "

i always loved it but never knew why, until one day on the east end of long
island, i was listening to the song over looking some water and it all hit
me. i had heard it about 100000 times, but i finaly got it!!!


by the way, anyone have any idea who or what chickenman is?

another one that gets the blood pumping, whats it about?

joe

brooklyn, ny

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>from the faq:

13.6. who is the chickenman?

in the "rites of passage" press kit amy said, "this is a real person, an
older guy who lives in a trailer in the middle of this junkyard off the
highway somewhere between houston and austin.  there's a big sign that
says 'chicken man'.  it looks like everything's for sale, but you'll ask
about something and he'll say, 'oh that's not for sale.'  we got into a
conversation, and some of his values and ideas seemed incredibly
comforting to me at the time.  it was the way he'd look out over this
piece of land and take such pride and satisfaction in this collection of
junk!  this guy was deep, he had layers of character underneath that
rough skin and dirt.  'chickenman' is really a stream-of-consciousness
type song."


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http://www.geocities.com/wellesley/7728/socs.html

these socs from chickenman explain it very well.

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just to explain how ravinia works, to those who are wondering...
it's a great place, and the lawn seats are relatively inexpensive (maybe
$10 all the time)
the pavilion seats are privately owned, as well as many open to the
public.  like there will be 70 year old rich retired men and their wives,
and they will be there to enjoy the show, as they do every such-and-such
a night.
the lawn is lovely, although you will not be able to see the girls,
unless you walk to the top of the pavilion.  there is a pavilion, and
then 2 or more lawns on the sides, not directly behind, the pavilion.
people in the audience are not meant to see the performers, in other
words.
but the big catch is that ravinia is perfect (even in the lawn (maybe
even especially)) because you can bring in a picnic, wine, beer, treats,
etc.
it's a kind-of fancy fest ground in highland park (which is a
kind-of-fancy city ) along the north shore of chicago, that allows you to
bring in your own picnic baskets and drinks.
if you get there in time (which you will, if you're not late) there
should be some lawn space to throw a blanket down.  i like the lawn, b/c
you see everyone else around you, you hang out, you can dance, and you
hear the music well. as i said, you just can't see the stage.  it's a
trade off.
it's the kind of place that i really liked when i was in high school,
well-underage b/c we could go and drink and noone cared  - and now that i
am well-of-age i can still appreciate that you can bring it in yourself.
for those of you non-drinkers, it is still fun to pack a picnic and relax

hope that helps
amyc
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i am sitting here listening to the blue food cd and thinking about way too many problems...the main one, and i hope that perhaps there is someone out there  who has some info or knows where to look, or has been thru the same thing....
long story short.
5 years ago i left my husband...and for 4 years have thought he filed the divorce papers and all was fine. he has known i was gay since the beginning...did the marriage thing for my family ( yeah i know....silly) but anyway...i find out a few months ago that he did not file cause then he would have to pay child support--court ordered......i filed the papers 3.5 weeks ago. he has to return the set to me tonight or i can then go and file th rest on default basis. he is dragging this out. he stated that he was gonna dispute the custody ( he wants sole) of our 6 yr old, the alimony and child support. haven't heard anything form him since he said this.

i am afraid he might get the spine to contest the whole thing on the basis of me being a lesbian.....in az if your are gay....you do not get custody of your child. ...
i have done some preliminary searches on the web for legal support / help but have not found anything directly related nor in my area...
if any one knows a site that perhaps i have not found please email me privately......kinda needing some support and resources right now....
thanks so much and sorry to take up space.....

and now back to your regular ig content.....

thanks...sparkie

loralei riney
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i was just wondering if anyone was going to the show at indiana univeristy of pa on friday.

sarah

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ok, i'll bite on this... and i realize that many might not agree with me...

<<a note to the flamers...>>

i'm not intending this as a flame, so i hope no one percieves my genuine
questions and concerns as such... i've wrestled with doing this idea myself
and haven't solved it to my satisfaction. perhaps i'm alone, but this is
dangerously close to the line (and i'm not sure which side it's on).

<<note:  you can make this pledge by credit card--how often can  you get an
ig boot by credit card and still not be buying it??? ... i'm not selling
this boot, i'm simply forcing a charitable contribution.>>

ok, that's awfully close to the same difference there: basically person (a)
gives person (b) $$ in exchange for a bootleg. person (b) then passes on the
$$ to person (c).*
would the nasty lawyer people also see it as 'not buying' (or not for
'financial gain')??

<<other than the coercion part i think that trading boots (that is,
exchanging them for no profit) and funding charities are very ig activities,
so i'm hoping they would approve.  this is my logic.>>

i totally see the point here, and i'm sure it's done with honourable
intentions and i honestly don't see the indigo girls disapproving (it'd be
nice to ask them to be on the safe side, but it's a very impractical thing
to do).

i'm all for voluntary contributions for boots (an extra blank, some
chocolate, some kind words), but to make them mandatory... well, i guess
what i'm trying to find out is, does it matter what happens to the money??

a rhetorical and hypothetical question:
suppose in a year i sell 40 bootleg cds and made $1,000. so far the indigo
girls police would disapprove, right?
if in the same year i donated $1,000 to aidsride would that then make it ok?
i mean, it's kinda the same thing, and it kinda isn't. and can we,
therefore, judge those who do sell, not knowing how their finances run?

another:
selling bootlegs is bad.
selling heroin is bad.
here we're giving free bootlegs in return for a charitable donation (above
what people could reasonably expect to pay for a cdr**)?
is giving geron in return for a charitable donation (above what people could
reasonably expect to pay) ok?

and yet one more:
assume this is cool, indigo girls fans get bootlegs, aids gets $$, and
indigo girls approve of selling boots for charity. we
re assuming that's the case.
but then say i decide that my charity is going to be people united for the
removal of womens suffrage. apart from that fact that puftrows doesn't make
a good acronym, at what point does a good charity become a bad one? and who
gets to make that decision?

i guess what i'm saying is that there are no 'rules' really, so every person
does what's right for them... i'd feel comfier if this was a standard blank
and postage deal, with a suggested-but-not-mandatory donation. i'd certainly
go for it. as it is, i'm a bit more hesitant, but i probably will...

hopefully y'all can see where i'm coming from...

peace
@}--,---'---

*to further cloud the issue, aidsride (or rather pallotta teamworks) -
(person (c)) is _not_ a registered non-profit organization - (according to
their website 54% of your donation goes toward fighting aids.) i'm not
saying it's a bad thing or a bad idea or a bad way to raise money, but it's
not a charity.

** a reasonable price? i'd say $10-15.

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the free ig concert on the quad at duke university is
for students only. sorry y'all! the good people at the
campus information line (the ticket office is not
handling this event) tell me you'll need a duke id to
get in. i'm assuming they'll let *me* in, though i am
no student but only a lowly duke employee. now if i
can just find someone who actually knows what time the
show is supposed to start... (as if i won't be camped
out on the quad the moment i'm off work!)

but as someone else pointed out, ig are playing in a
big-ass pavilion in raleigh sometime in june (it's not
on the tour schedule, but i've seen ads in the local
entertainment rag). if you want to shell out bucks for
this, call ticketbastard for info; i don't know
anything about it.

tracy
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. . . and another thing, what kind of name is "students against the
treacherous use of fur".  fur is already dead, and besides a name like
that . . .

neil wrote:

> doesn't make a good acronym

sorry, couldn't resist.  for those of you who don't know the music of
ms. dar williams, do yourselves a favor and check her out.

dar is right up there with the ig and joni mitchell in my book.  joni
and the ig are the standards of excellence i use when ranking a
performer.

elaine

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even i don't know what you're gonna get!  here's my latest n/igc ponderings...

1.  for those of you to whom this applies, how does one reconcile pro-choice
and anti-death-penalty beliefs?  i hold both of these but am not sure how to
justify them both.   any resources or opinions are welcome.

2.  has anyone heard of the in-store-play disc called breaking curfew?  i
picked this one up at a cd warehouse because i'm sure there's some collector
buff out there who would love it, i'll sell it at cost ($8.50.)  anyways,
what it is is just the contents of the brown disc of 1200c, but the color of
rop and with copyright information typed in white underneath each song title,
which are in the familiar squiggly handwriting.  the cover art is nothing to
shout about, just a grayed-out setlist in the background with "indigo girls -
breaking curfew" across it.  so, if you want it, email me and tell me just
why i should pick you to receive it (this is assuming anyone wants it, of
course!)

3.  where can i get a good background in today's politics?  i am a lowly,
uninformed fifteen-year old.  any honest resources about the issues, the
parties, and the candidates themselves would be much appreciated.

4.  i'm starting to convert my oh-so-homophobic dad into a kinda-ig fan!
just thought i'd share.

5.  another question - alright, so in the song and in that quote posted, amy
says he (the chickenman) "sold her junk and conversation".  i can understand
the poetic use of sold as opposed to literalness, but she plainly states in
the quote she talked to him, but nothing was for sale.  then in the socs she
repeatedly talks about forfeiting that opportunity to talk to him, being
"paralyzed by the moment stolen by hesitance" as i put it in a poem i wrote
on this very subject, actually...  which was it?  did she talk to him??

6.  just a little piece of bush stuff from that www.gwbush.com (an anti-bush
website).
    "bush promised to declare war on domestic human rights abuses as
president. "we're talking about women serving 20 years or more because they
were dating or married to a drug dealer. recreational drug users--like i used
to be--are serving life sentences because dealer friends made up stories to
get a lighter sentence! if this were happening in china, we'd probably start
bombing them for human rights violations," said an incensed bush after
listening to reports from leading criminal justice experts. "we have to let
these people go!" "
    now i'm not going to express an opinion with bush's stance on this, but
i'm just wondering when he's going to pardon leonard peltier?

run, forrest, run!
lisa :o)

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in a message dated 4/6/00 6:33:23 pm pacific daylight time, tryng2bme@aol.com
writes:

> 1.  for those of you to whom this applies, how does one reconcile pro-choice
>  and anti-death-penalty beliefs?  i hold both of these but am not sure how
to
>  justify them both.   any resources or opinions are welcome.
if you believe, as i do, that a fetus is part of the mother's body to do with
as she likes, there is no problem.

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hi all....
    sparkie, i may have some info for you about custody, but i deleted your
email address.  let me know if you are still interested.

kato

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does anybody have a boot of this show? if so,
i would be willing to send  the blank cd (just tell me how many) sase,
return postage,  and  to pay for cover artwork,  since i  have no
computer.  please contact me.  if you can offer
a setlist, that would be great, if not that's fine too, just let me know
what you can  or arewilling to do.

thanks

peace

barb

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thanks, sheryl for posting the ravinia information as soon as you got it!  :-)

i went online and got tickets.  pavilion tickets.  row r.  not the greatest of seats, but as amy said, ravinia is perfect!  i am really excited.  perfect band.  perfect location (10 minutes from my house).  perfect venue.

if you still need tix, go to www.ravinia.org soon!  they're selling quickly!

:-) karen

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ok i have a question how many other crazy dar fans besides myself found
themselves singing that as they read it ...lol
and by the by for anyone in the southeastern mass area babrbara phaneuf is
putting on a show sunday night at 7 with lucie blue tremblay at bridgewater
state college and the proceeds go to the gay group there (its called aware
and it totally rocks)and a guitar is being raffled off as well...should be a
fun time for all ......

. . . and another thing, what kind of name is "students against the
treacherous use of fur".  fur is already dead, and besides a name like
that . . .

neil wrote:

> doesn't make a good acronym

sorry, couldn't resist.  for those of you who don't know the music of
ms. dar williams, do yourselves a favor and check her out.

dar is right up there with the ig and joni mitchell in my book.  joni
and the ig are the standards of excellence i use when ranking a
performer.

elaine

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from melissa etheridge's washington post q&a session.....

new york, ny: dear melissa,
thank you for all your music and words all these years, it helps me and
many people i know get through life.
will the indigo girls also be appearing with you at equality rocks?

melissa etheridge: we tried to get them but they had other commitments.

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more like they had better sense...

ryan

> -----original message-----

> from melissa etheridge's washington post q&a session.....
>
> new york, ny: dear melissa,
> thank you for all your music and words all these years, it helps me and
> many people i know get through life.
> will the indigo girls also be appearing with you at equality rocks?
>
> melissa etheridge: we tried to get them but they had other commitments.

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in a message dated 4/7/00 12:47:32 am eastern daylight time,
hawke2@email.msn.com writes:

<< more like they had better sense...

ryan
  >>

personally i really wish the ig would be a part of the hrc concert or at
least attend the march but i respect their decision not to associate with the
hrc.   some other me q&a about the march and er.

indi


arlington, va: i have been a huge fan of yours for years, and would
love to attend the equality rocks concert. just a comment, though-
tickets are so damn expensive that it appears that only rich folks who want
to support such an event will be able to attend- any thoughts on this?

melissa etheridge: i know that the hrc made the ticket price it is
totally benefiting them and their work. it's a lot of show for the buck
though!

tuscaloosa, al: thanks for all that you do. are you concerned about
lack of support for the march on washington? expecting much of a
turnout?

melissa etheridge: it is a shame that we can't all stick together and
get these things worked out...hard telling what it will be like.

washington, dc: what do you mean "it's a shame we all can't stick
together"?!

if the human rights campaign and mcc truly cared about people "sticking
together," they wouldn't have imposed this march in such an arbitrary,
closed, way.

nothing against you, melissa, but the organizations you're running with
aren't too concerned about the entire community -- just the publicity.

just my 2 cents.

melissa etheridge: wow..you know what..i really don't know that much
about the controversy, i was speaking kind of generally about the whole
thing...

sooooo ryan, are you the one in washington, dc?    :)

indi

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after another particularly rough day at work, i settle into my car, totally
deflated.  i turn the key, and i hear  the instrumental part of gone again
and my favorite verse, "if i don't make kakadu, i'll be at the rainbow room,
i'll be courting some disaster with the melbourne wrecking crew.  honey, all
there is to say, every dog don't got its day, if we take the love we're
given, and we throw it all away..."

i did a doubletake when i heard the song because gone again is the only amy
song i have on my recent mix tape.  so nice to hear the indigo girls on the
radio. *sigh*

bucknell university--less than 48 hours!  woohoo! do a little dance...

diane - see you there, jill from phil! (i haven't gotten the pictures
developed yet from the lancaster show because there are eleven shots left on
the camera!)

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hi, sorry for the annoying email, but does any one still have the link =
to the book list?  completely deleted it on accident!  sorry for the =
nigc!!=20

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according to www.dumblaws.com, a texas state law is : "you can be legally
married by publically introducing a person as your husband or wife 3 times."
anybody going to test this??  sure would put dubya in a spot!!  hehe.

lisa

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this is most likely under gw's leadership:  a recently passed texas state
anticrime law requires criminals to give their victims 24 hours notice,
either orally or in writing, and to explain the nature of the crime to be
committed.

laughing,
lisa

check out www.dumblaws.com/states/texas.shtml  for a few other frighteningly
silly/conservative laws.   okay, done plugging now.

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> personally i really wish the ig would be a part of the hrc concert or at
> least attend the march but i respect their decision not to
> associate with the
> hrc.   some other me q&a about the march and er.

ergh! i'm trying reallyreally hard not to go on another rant about hrc.
ain't y'all proud of my self-control?

> arlington, va: i have been a huge fan of yours for years, and would
> love to attend the equality rocks concert. just a comment, though-
> tickets are so damn expensive that it appears that only rich
> folks who want
> to support such an event will be able to attend- any thoughts on this?

well, that's hrc for you...

> melissa etheridge: i know that the hrc made the ticket price it is
> totally benefiting them and their work. it's a lot of show for the buck
> though!

uh, i don't remember paying so much for lilith fair. oh that's right, this
is to help all us affluent gay people. lilith was only to help various
wonen's shelters, health issues, rainn and other such piddling causes.
amazing how much money lilith was  able to distribute without charging so
much for tix...

> tuscaloosa, al: thanks for all that you do. are you concerned about
> lack of support for the march on washington? expecting much of a
> turnout?
>
> melissa etheridge: it is a shame that we can't all stick together and
> get these things worked out...hard telling what it will be like.

well, considering that the queer community doesn't much appreciate major
decisions being foisted upon them by 5 opportunistic  people looking to
score a quick buck and solidify their stranglehold on power....

> washington, dc: what do you mean "it's a shame we all can't stick
> together"?!
>
> if the human rights campaign and mcc truly cared about people "sticking
> together," they wouldn't have imposed this march in such an arbitrary,
> closed, way.
>
> nothing against you, melissa, but the organizations you're running with
> aren't too concerned about the entire community -- just the publicity.
>
> just my 2 cents.
>
> melissa etheridge: wow..you know what..i really don't know that much
> about the controversy, i was speaking kind of generally about the whole
> thing...

heh, her cop-out for any org that comes under public scrutiny..."i didn't
know. i don't want to know. why can't we all just get along..."
>
>
>
> sooooo ryan, are you the one in washington, dc?    :)

twasn't me but my hat is off to whomever it was.

ryan

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dear lisa,
   i read you post and was amazed to see you are 15 years old! where do you
go to school???. i need to send my 14 year old there!!! (we actually live in
one of the best school districts in our state, not b/c we are rich but b/c
we struggle like hell to live here. unfortunately, my son is just not a
student. but he is a great kid nevertheless). you are a very intelligent and
articulate writer. i too, am totally conflicted about abortion rights and
the death penalty. i'm not sure i'll ever resolve those feelings to where i
could draw a line in the sand and say "this is how i definitely feel about
those two issues."
     i also had to mention that just last night i read in "marie-clare"
magazine an article that describes the plight of a woman exactly as you
described in the blurb about gw bush.
this poor woman who had no criminal record and had no drugs even found in a
search of her house was sent to prison for almost 20 years b/c of the false
testimony of criminals. this has left her 3 children effectively parentless
and devastated (her youngest has tried to commit suicide twice) all her
appeals have been exhausted and unless she gets a pardon from the governor
she'll have to spend the next 15years in prison for a crime she never
committed. this is america????
i rarely reply to individuals on the listserve but i was so impressed by
your post that i had to *delurk*
lynne (41 and still clueless)
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> even i don't know what you're gonna get!  here's my latest n/igc
ponderings...
>
> 1.  for those of you to whom this applies, how does one reconcile
pro-choice
> and anti-death-penalty beliefs?  i hold both of these but am not sure how
to
> justify them both.   any resources or opinions are welcome.
>
> 2.  has anyone heard of the in-store-play disc called breaking curfew?  i
> picked this one up at a cd warehouse because i'm sure there's some
collector
> buff out there who would love it, i'll sell it at cost ($8.50.)  anyways,
> what it is is just the contents of the brown disc of 1200c, but the color
of
> rop and with copyright information typed in white underneath each song
title,
> which are in the familiar squiggly handwriting.  the cover art is nothing
to
> shout about, just a grayed-out setlist in the background with "indigo
girls -
> breaking curfew" across it.  so, if you want it, email me and tell me just
> why i should pick you to receive it (this is assuming anyone wants it, of
> course!)
>
> 3.  where can i get a good background in today's politics?  i am a lowly,
> uninformed fifteen-year old.  any honest resources about the issues, the
> parties, and the candidates themselves would be much appreciated.
>
> 4.  i'm starting to convert my oh-so-homophobic dad into a kinda-ig fan!
> just thought i'd share.
>
> 5.  another question - alright, so in the song and in that quote posted,
amy
> says he (the chickenman) "sold her junk and conversation".  i can
understand
> the poetic use of sold as opposed to literalness, but she plainly states
in
> the quote she talked to him, but nothing was for sale.  then in the socs
she
> repeatedly talks about forfeiting that opportunity to talk to him, being
> "paralyzed by the moment stolen by hesitance" as i put it in a poem i
wrote
> on this very subject, actually...  which was it?  did she talk to him??
>
> 6.  just a little piece of bush stuff from that www.gwbush.com (an
anti-bush
> website).
>     "bush promised to declare war on domestic human rights abuses as
> president. "we're talking about women serving 20 years or more because
they
> were dating or married to a drug dealer. recreational drug users--like i
used
> to be--are serving life sentences because dealer friends made up stories
to
> get a lighter sentence! if this were happening in china, we'd probably
start
> bombing them for human rights violations," said an incensed bush after
> listening to reports from leading criminal justice experts. "we have to
let
> these people go!" "
>     now i'm not going to express an opinion with bush's stance on this,
but
> i'm just wondering when he's going to pardon leonard peltier?
>
> run, forrest, run!
> lisa :o)
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date:         fri, 7 apr 2000 02:19:44 -0500
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margaret the goddess of booting (and booty) wrote:

>[a note to the flamers, not to be confused with the flamer who i'll be
>riding with and who already hit y'all up for dough a couple of weeks
>ago:   i'm not selling this boot, i'm simply forcing a charitable
>contribution.  other than the coercion part i think that trading boots
>(that is, exchanging them for no profit) and funding charities are
>very ig activities, so i'm hoping they would approve.  this is my
>logic.]

neil replied:

>*to further cloud the issue, aidsride (or rather pallotta teamworks) -
>(person (c)) is _not_ a registered non-profit organization - (according to
>their website 54% of your donation goes toward fighting aids.) i'm not
>saying it's a bad thing or a bad idea or a bad way to raise money, but it's
>not a charity.

i had to comment on a few things here.  neil's detailed analysis of the
yay's and nay's of margaret's boot offer bring up many good points.
personally, i feel that you could end all guilt about feeling like you are
buying a boot.  just send margaret money because you want to donate to the
cause.  then she'll just happen to send you a boot and the arrival time of
the boot in your mailbox will just happen to coincide with a date fairly
soon after you sent her a donation.  so it's mere coincidence you see.
fear not!

as far as any skepticism about the aids ride i must chime in.  i of course
feel compelled to chime in as i too am riding as i posted about begging for
money several weeks ago.  neil is right about the aids ride being a for
profit organization.  i was surprised to learn that two years ago as well.
however, i must say that most skeptics who bring up such a fact are folks
who have not actually experienced the ride itself.  it would be nice if
100% of the donations went to the cause.  however, that is fairly
unrealistic.  the national society of fundraising executives states that a
minimum of 50% of each dollar from such events should go back to the
charity.  the california aids ride sends an average of 62% back.  that is a
damn lot of money and the fastest and most money sent directly back to the
charities than any other aids fundraiser.  so i say if the rest is profit
that it's still worth it.  besides, the experience of the ride for the
riders themselves is unforgettable and makes people grow as human beings.
taking a week out of your life dedicated solely to a positive cause and to
bettering yourself is priceless.  if someone profits off my growth
experience and some aids charities increase in fundage than so be it.  it
does so much more good.  you can't know until you've done it yourself.  and
finally, pallotta teamworks (aids ride organization) does not call
themselves a non-for profit organization in any of their literature (at
least not that i've seen).  they call it a fundraising event.  there is
incredible preparation that goes into these events and it is incredibly
organized.  that kind of prep work needs money to function.

anyway enough on that--i just had to clarify about donating towards the
ride as it is still a quality fundraiser despite being for profit.  ok
that's all for this soapbox.  take care

g

oh and ps--i'm still taking donations if you have excess cash on hand after
sending money to margaret :)

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ok, i am wayyy too tired to do justice with this.
let me just say:
the indigo girls were at the spitfire tour date tonight (well, now, yesterday
night) @ northern il university (niu) in dekalb, il.
and, not to take importance away from the reasons behind the spitfire tour
that don't involve letting wackos like me get 'real close' to amy and emily:
i could see them.  they were, like, right there.  i heard them, and saw them,
and shared the same air with them, and while i'm being sarcastic, a little, i
also mean it...because...in my 3 years of fandom (yeah, i know it's a paltry
total, but i'm working on it) this is the closest i've gotten to them, and i
only had to pay $2.
the bare bones:
m. frenti talked first
then jonas goldberg
then kennedy, the ex-vj
then, ms. ray and ms. saliers starting to talk about honor the earth and
related stuff.  they threw it over to winona laduke (!!!!!) who spoke.
verrry powerful stuff.
then ralph nader talked (!!!), and then the indigo girls played a short
acoustic set:
bury my heart @ wounded knee
hammer and a nail
and then a song i'd never heard before,
little darling -an unreleased song that amy said she wrote thinking about the
cycles of nuclear waste (i'm paraphrasing, of course.)
if you wanna check out the lyrics :
http://www.lifeblood.net/lyrics/athruz/ldarling.html
and during the q and a right after the songs
i asked a question, and then tacked on a little "amy how are you doin'?" to
it, just cause i could.  hell, i had to get her to say something to me, and
besides, i was curious.
she said she was fine and that everything was in order (patting her abdomen).
they both sounded very 'on' tonight, and just glad i got to be there.
so, if any one else was there, i was 'that dyke who asked amy how she was'.
(:
mel

"no matter how many outre things i manage to do with my life, how many
body piercings or tattoos or whatever else i might litter my body with, i
am still, as a sexual being, the girl my mother wants me to be, the woman
who is obedient to the male gaze. and amy ray, i am certain, is not."
                        wurtzel, elizabeth from "the (fe)male gaze."

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i've been to a few concerts at ravinia and it is a wonderful place to enjoy
the full concert experience.  one word of caution--access in and out is not
great.  if you show up 5 minutes before the concert, you'll come to a dead
stop 1/4 mile--and 20 minutes--from the parking lot.  get there early and
enjoy!

bill

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date:         fri, 7 apr 2000 04:11:15 -0700
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this is a general plea for help.
if anyone has an extra ticket for the april 16 american u show in dc,
i would be eternally grateful.  please e-mail me privately.
thanks!!
amy

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in a message dated 4/7/00 2:23:29 am eastern daylight time,
hawke2@email.msn.com writes:

<< > arlington, va: i have been a huge fan of yours for years, and would
> love to attend the equality rocks concert. just a comment, though-
> tickets are so damn expensive that it appears that only rich
> folks who want
> to support such an event will be able to attend- any thoughts on this?

well, that's hrc for you... >>

tixs to the equality rocks are $35 and up.  i dont think $35 is bad.  i cant
remember what i paid for lilith but i think it was closer to $45 or 50.

indi

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date:         fri, 7 apr 2000 06:42:00 pdt
reply-to:     cara klein <cowsrule52@hotmail.com>
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bear w/ me again as this was sent a few days ago while alot some discussion
of open mindedness was goin on. again i sent it to the wrong address and it
just now got sent back to me!! sorry!

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>date: 6 apr 2000 21:50:13 -0000
>
>hi. this is the qmail-send program at hotmail.com.
>i'm afraid i wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
>addresses.
>this is a permanent error; i've given up. sorry it didn't work out.
>
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>sorry, i couldn't find any host by that name. (#4.1.2)
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return-path: <cowsrule52@hotmail.com>
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brilliantly said!! i appreciate your post and agree w/ it. judgement is
something so easy to succome to that i dont think most good intentioned
(word?) ppl, like myself, even relize that they/we/me have  have fallen prey
to it! its sublte, sometimes, and takes its form in the most subtle of ways.
i am the type of person that will listen to your (not anyone in particular,
just makin a pt!!) idea, views and opinions and will respect them, but i
expect the same in return! (again, that last sentence was for makin a pt
only and not directed towards anyone here!!) i absolutly may indeed disagree
and explain my opinions, but i dont think its fair to be put down,
criticized, or personally attacked (as some have posted here felt they have
been) b/c differences may exisist! this is an ideal i srive for and am
concious of, but it easy to take opinions or "so called facts" and
unintentially strew them into judgements! ex, the christian right.  i am
catholic, liberal, a woman, and a lesbian so "they" really really really
really dont approve me! anyway, w/ out getting into the whole thing, i
respect "their" views on their issues, while feeling sorry for them, but
almost always i dissagree w/ them. the thing i take offense to, more than
anything, is respecting others views, and not having mine respected! its
easy, when you are passionate about something, to become defensive or so
outraged at others judgements towards you, that ya end up being a hypicrote
and just as  judgemental! thats one of the things i love most about the
girls! they speak brutal truths and have steadfast opinions and beliefs, but
they tread the delicate balance btwn expressions of opinions and blasphmy
towards those who differ. they almost have a sincere pitty for ignorance,
which i admire! thats just my 2 cents! have a superterrific day!!

cara
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i remember when i went to lilith it was $35 a ticket.  i don't think that is
too much to pay for a concert.  i would pay $35 just to see ig.


>tixs to the equality rocks are $35 and up.  i dont >think $35 is bad.  i
cant
>remember what i paid for lilith but i think it was >closer to $45 or 50.
>
>indi

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i won't stay home again

by ellen degeneres

i remember watching the '93 march on washington on tv and crying because i
couldn't be there. i watched thousands of people who were proud of who they
were and i cried because i wasn't proud. i was struggling to be proud, but
fearful of losing my career. everything i worked so hard for could be taken
away simply for being proud of who i am.

my decision to stop that shame - to stop rationalizing why i didn't need to
come out - was the most important decision i've ever made. what i thought was
such a tremendous risk has taken me on a spiritual journey i would've never
experienced otherwise.

while sitting through the '93 march -- closeted and alone -- was an awful
experience, nothing has devastated me more than the vicious and hateful
murder of matthew shepard.

his death continues to have a profound impact on my life, and the lives of so
many others. in the presence of so much hate and violence, it seems
impossible to imagine staying on the sidelines. in spite of a horrific loss,
matthew's parents, dennis and judy shepard, have become outspoken and
powerful advocates for non-violence, tolerance and love.

if the shepards can find the strength to come out and speak out, we all must
find it within ourselves to do the same.

i'll be there with my family because i don't want to lose any more. i don't
want us to lose our jobs, just because of who we love. i don't want to lose
any more matthew shepards to anti-gay hate crimes. i don't want to lose any
more of our youth to suicide.

i've learned that truth and love are all that matters. i have tremendous
compassion for those who can't, for whatever reason, join us in our
celebration. being a part of this will be my biggest celebration of coming
out. i'll get to celebrate with thousands and thousands of people who, for
that one day, are surrounded by love and support and pride.

i won't stay home again. we live in a world that would rather not see us-
that day in washington we will be seen. we will stand up and be counted. i'll
be at the millennium march on april 30th to make a statement, and a
difference. i hope you'll be there, too.


for more information, contact the millennium march offices at: 1000 16th st.,
nw, ste. 300 washington, dc 20036(202) 467-8100 www.mmow.org

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>in a message dated 4/6/00 6:33:23 pm pacific daylight time,
>tryng2bme@aol.com writes:
>
>1.  for those of you to whom this applies, how does one reconcile
>pro-choice and anti-death-penalty beliefs?  i hold both of these but am not
>sure how to justify them both. any resources or opinions are welcome.

very good question...
i consider myself pro-choice because i do not feel i have the right to
dictate what half the population of the planet should do with their bodies.
i, personally, would probably never have an abortion.  however, because our
society refuses to do anything about 1)sex education and the 2)lack of
contraception availability and the 3)red tape/high price/racial and sexual
profiling of adoptions and 4)everything else that's wrong with the system in
regards to this subject, we will continue to need abortion.  conservatives
don't like it but refuse to do anything about it.  well, nobody likes the
idea that they might or might not be killing something.  but when your
choices are limited whatcha gonna do?  standing around saying, "well you
shouldah, couldah, ougthah" is pointless when it's been done.  judging
people is a fatal flaw in our genetic makeup and we just need to get over
ourselves already and get our asses in gear.
as far as the death penalty goes, killing somebody for their crimes is not
really teaching them a lesson is it?  granted, i don't like the idea that my
tax money is going to support these people but as a society we must work to
create alternatives.  all we have now is some barbaric revenge
policy...aren't we better than that?  besides, doesn'it bother anyone that
we may be killing people that didn't commit these crimes?  again, who are we
to judge what's in a man's soul?  there has to be an alternative to killing
someone just as there should be alternatives to simply locking someone up
for 50 years then expecting them to be productive citizens when released.
there will probably always be a segment of the population that has to be
permenently removed from active society but overall there must be something
we can do to help create better human beings rather than killing them or
turning them loose on society after teaching them to be better criminals.
so no, i have no conflicts with those two beliefs of mine...

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from:         neil hunt <neil@andineil.com>
subject:      re: aids ride and trading

<<personally, i feel that you could end all guilt about feeling
like you are buying a boot.  just send margaret money because
you want to donate to the cause.  then she'll just happen to
send you a boot and the arrival time of the boot in your mailbox
will just happen to coincide with a date fairly soon after you
sent her a donation.  so it's mere coincidence you see.>>

i shouldn't have put in the %thing, it really wasn't condusive
to the point i was making...

the aidsride is cool, and the amount of $$ i donated last year
would more than cover this boot offer, and it's certainly cool
to get something in return... and i'm sure they're getting money
that wouldn't otheriwse go to aids (they've raised, what $140
million to date??). so i think both this offer and aidsride are
a _good_ thing.

i was trying to make the point that a good cause might not
necessarily be a charity (and vice versa). and that this whole
ethics thing's not a clear cut thing and if we were to create a
whole boot charter it'd be full of ifs and buts. (it was kinda
presented in the message as a charity)

i'm just kinda worried that this might become an excuse for
other things. i thought of another example:

say i want this latest boot offer, but i don't have the $$, so i
sell a couple of boots to make the $$ to give to this and... you
see what i mean? it's getting kinda complicated for my brain.

if you see what i mean...

another aside:
being a registered non-profit organization may actually allow
you to sell copyrghted materials without permission
for 'educational use'. the door (www.doormagazine.com - i think)
does this. which leads to more interesting possibilities if we
were to create and indigo girls...

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hi gang.  i write for a local music magazine and i need to get a photo pass
for the photographer, so i'm wondering if anyone has lisa markowitz's
contact info? or is she even still ig's publicist?  i've done this before,
but it was like, 4 years ago, and i've lost the number.

let me know if anyone can help me.  i need it by the june shows at wolftrap
in va.

thanks,
tara

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hey all! yes its true the show is for students only, but, its outside in the
west quad, and although they say they are checkin for id,my best friend ,who
used to work for the duke police dept (of course she just left the police
dept last month..grrr...) said there is no way they could check everyone cuz
there are so many ways to access the west quad.

also, i called info again and all the info (time and stuff)  will be in the
duke chronicle (student newspaper) but she didnt know when. i guess we just
have to check it every day! (tracy, could you do that since you werk there
and email me and let me know?) i have a friend who used to lights for the
girls in when she went to univ. of ga and shes now a grad student at duke
and i asked her last night to see if she could get any inside info for me!
im bound and determined to see them at this gig!! where there is a will
there is a way right! grrr...why couldntmy buddy have werked there just one
more month!! :)

anyway, as for the show in raleigh, it is pavilion only w/ the whole band
like it was this past oct (my gf and i had 10 row tix and it was
unbelievable!!) tix for the that show (june 4th, suday) go onsale
****today**** friday april 7 at ****5pm****...at ticketmaster! the reserved
seats (first 20 rows secs 1,2,and 3) are about $37.oo i think! (its not
there fault, ticket master and walnut creek have much to do w/ that! when
the tickets arent through a "ticket outlet" u can see the difference in
price!!)

btw, on a nigc note, if anyone wants info on melissa etheridge comin to
raleigh private email me cuz online  only sale is monday!

have a superific weekend everyone!! thanks for all the info and ill continue
to post any info i have!! im soooooooooooooooo excited about all this ig
craziness!! i really want to thank all of you for posting so much info cuz i
wouldnt know half the stuff i do if it werent for all of you!! i really mean
it!! thank you from the bottom of my heart!
when i hear anyone say "indigo girls," i just have to "go go go!!" :)~
cara
......................."hey kind friend".............................
                                 hey kind friend - ig

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>date: thu, 6 apr 2000 19:57:21 -0500
>
>the free ig concert on the quad at duke university is
>for students only. sorry y'all! the good people at the
>campus information line (the ticket office is not
>handling this event) tell me you'll need a duke id to
>get in. i'm assuming they'll let *me* in, though i am
>no student but only a lowly duke employee. now if i
>can just find someone who actually knows what time the
>show is supposed to start... (as if i won't be camped
>out on the quad the moment i'm off work!)
>
>but as someone else pointed out, ig are playing in a
>big-ass pavilion in raleigh sometime in june (it's not
>on the tour schedule, but i've seen ads in the local
>entertainment rag). if you want to shell out bucks for
>this, call ticketbastard for info; i don't know
>anything about it.
>
>
>
>tracy
>editrix@earthlink.net
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>
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well, i have to agree with you on this. anyone who likes the girls or joni or tracy will enjoy dar. several of her songs are wonderfully funny and then  there are the ones that cut deep....family is one of em....
i introduced my girlfriend to the girls and dar on the same day.....she is amazed that she had not heard of em before ( but working 5- 14 hour shifts for mother mayo hospital i guess it isn't hard to believe)

so do yourself a favor and fin her stuff...all is good....
sparkie

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excellent reply rugbygrrl !!!! my feelings are very much in concert with
yours.
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does anyone know where i could read that whole q & a ? is it online
somewhere? just wonderin!! thank you!!

>from: indigokat@aol.com
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>date: fri, 7 apr 2000 00:19:21 -0500
>
>in a message dated 4/7/00 12:47:32 am eastern daylight time,
>hawke2@email.msn.com writes:
>
><< more like they had better sense...
>
>  ryan
>   >>
>
>personally i really wish the ig would be a part of the hrc concert or at
>least attend the march but i respect their decision not to associate with
>the
>hrc.   some other me q&a about the march and er.
>
>indi
>
>
>arlington, va: i have been a huge fan of yours for years, and would
>love to attend the equality rocks concert. just a comment, though-
>tickets are so damn expensive that it appears that only rich folks who want
>to support such an event will be able to attend- any thoughts on this?
>
>melissa etheridge: i know that the hrc made the ticket price it is
>totally benefiting them and their work. it's a lot of show for the buck
>though!
>
>tuscaloosa, al: thanks for all that you do. are you concerned about
>lack of support for the march on washington? expecting much of a
>turnout?
>
>melissa etheridge: it is a shame that we can't all stick together and
>get these things worked out...hard telling what it will be like.
>
>washington, dc: what do you mean "it's a shame we all can't stick
>together"?!
>
>if the human rights campaign and mcc truly cared about people "sticking
>together," they wouldn't have imposed this march in such an arbitrary,
>closed, way.
>
>nothing against you, melissa, but the organizations you're running with
>aren't too concerned about the entire community -- just the publicity.
>
>just my 2 cents.
>
>melissa etheridge: wow..you know what..i really don't know that much
>about the controversy, i was speaking kind of generally about the whole
>thing...
>
>
>
>sooooo ryan, are you the one in washington, dc?    :)
>
>indi
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hkf's,

06/15/00  canandaigua, ny  finger lakes performing arts center
onsale: 04/15/00 - 10:00am
(716)852-5000 (local tm)

i just updated my site with the ny show, plus please check if there's any
missing onsale information for any of the shows:
http://home.earthlink.net/~mcunningham5/indigotour.html

thanks!!!

and btw, did anyones heart skip a few beats when amy had the gall to play
little darlin' without me!!!  i said, so little darlin', you get to feel it
too...  and i was thinking - oh my gosh!!!!!!!!  i would've passed out or
thrown up (either or, certainly not both ;)...  i guess it's out now - i'm
an amy person thru & thru...  well, except with lotk starts...  ;)

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could someone tell me if tickets for the 6/20 ig concert at ravinia are
only onsale for special contributers right now? sorry if i'm asking the
obvious.
thanks.

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subject:      re: aids ride and trading

just a quick note in defense of my offer...

[but first--if you've sent me a boot request and haven't heard back
from me yet, please re-send your request; i've responded to all the
ones that i had, but i had a little mishap this morning that i think
deleted some of them.]

i'm not selling these boots.  i'm trading them.  i'm just trading them
for sponsorship for the aids ride.  i don't make money off of this.
pallotta makes enough to keep having aids rides.  i'm not out for
profit, for getting rich off ig bootlegs, which is what i suspect a&e
would object to most based on their past comments on the subject.

i agree that the issue isn't 100% black and white, but i feel good
about it as do (evidently) the people who have sent in nearly $1000
for the aids ride so far!!!  and remember that if you object you're
free to not partake in this offer, and you could probably get a copy
of the boot from someone else a little while later.

bes

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--- loralei riney <loralei.riney@bannerhealth.com>
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> well, i have to agree with you on this. anyone who
> likes the girls or joni or tracy will enjoy dar.
> several of her songs are wonderfully funny and then
> there are the ones that cut deep....family is one of
> em....
i just had to write this, family is a wonderful song,
but it was written by pierce pettis, not dar.  but i
have to agree, dar is wonderful, i recommend her
highly!
-laurel

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i just wanted to say that it was amazing. i also was in the front row, right
in front of where amy and emily performed. i did see mel when she went up to
ask her question of the group. after the group q & a, we could go off into
separate rooms with the artists and have a more personalized discussion. i of
course, was in the room with the indigo girls, ralph nader, and for short
periods of time, winona laduke and michael franti. i asked a question
basically about community building and getting a city with a bad reputation
motivated. i had raised my hand and emily went to point to me to get my
question, when ralph commented on something. so she kinda smiled at me
letting me know that i would be next. so i just about died. i don't know if
it was just me dreaming, but i could have sworn that she kept looking at me
and smiling quite a bit throughout the whole thing. maybe she was laughing at
me cause i had an "i'm a fuckin genius" patch on the front of my overalls. i
don't know. either way, she was smiling in my general direction... when she
wasn't looking tired. :) i was probably in a daze at that point. but i
thought that it was cool that they answered my question like you were just
talking with a group of friends. it got to be close to midnight and everyone
was getting tired, and we couldn't take anymore detailed questions... so they
called it a night. they weren't doing pictures and only did a few autograhs
as everyone was pretty exhausted. people started leaving the small room and
emily and amy and other crew people were among the crowd as well and it was
really cool because they weren't being pressured into autographs or engaged
in conversation. the whole vibe of the room was "we're all tired, let's just
get out of here." we'd taken enough of their time and i had an hour and a
half drive ahead of me yet. i had already handed emily a letter, because i
wouldn't feel right (i'd feel like a moron actually) keeping her there while
i talked about myself for hours, so i felt like it was a good night. i was
walking right next to amy as we left and it was as if she were just another
person in the crowd. she mentioned that she was hungry cause they hadn't
eaten dinner yet and i said something like "me neither, gonna stop on the
road somewhere". she said "we might end up doing that too". and that was
that, she was off. looked tired as hell, but it was a good tired. so
unfortunately, moronic person that i am, i didn't bootleg the ending q & a.
had an extra minidisc and forgot all about it. i guess i was just too into
the discussion. however, i did bootleg all of the speeches (except kennedy's
due to mechanical difficulties... pissed me off) as well as the three song
performance, with the before-then-unperformed song. i also got some pictures
of them speaking and performing. i'm going to go check the bootleg now, and
if turned out well, i'll be making it available via trade or blank cdr or
minidisc. i'll let y'all know the status of that a little later. okay, i'm
done now.

jax

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most important first:

>6.  just a little piece of bush stuff from that www.gwbush.com (an
anti-bush
>website).
>    "bush promised to declare war on domestic human rights abuses as
>president... etc.

this was part of an april fool's thing and totally untrue.
it does say that on the website, but i guess it's easily missed.

>1.  for those of you to whom this applies, how does one reconcile
pro-choice
>and anti-death-penalty beliefs?

in an ideal world abortion would be perfectly legal but no one would ever
have to make that choice. if the pro and anti folks just spent their money
on education and social programs...

the death penalty is more about revenge than punishment. it also costs more
than life imprisonment, apparently.

>2.  has anyone heard of the in-store-play disc called breaking curfew?

yup, it's a promo for 1200 curfews... i think you got it pretty cheap, but
it's not at the top of my 'want' list...

>3.  where can i get a good background in today's politics?  i am a lowly,
>uninformed fifteen-year old.  any honest resources about the issues, the
>parties, and the candidates themselves would be much appreciated.

http://www.speakout.com/selectsmart/ has a questionairre you fill in about
where you stand on todays issues. it then tells you which potential
candidate fits with you...
www.selectsmart.com has a number of similar things (and that's where the
first one comes from) it also has listings on where candicates stand.

www.realchange.org has a complete list of skeletons in candidates closets...

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>  1.  for those of you to whom this applies, how does one reconcile
pro-choice
>  and anti-death-penalty beliefs?  i hold both of these but am not sure how
to
>  justify them both.   any resources or opinions are welcome.

personally i think the death penalty brings the justice system to the level
of the murderer.  if you kill someone just because they killed someone else,
does that mean someone should kill you?  pro-choice, i guess that's a
personal as of where life starts.  personally i think that untill around 7-8
months a fetus isn't really alive yet.  it's like saying eating a scrambled
egg is eating a roasted chicken.  the egg has the potential of being a
chicken, but its not.  don't know if that helps, but those are my thoughts
on it
>
>  5.  another question - alright, so in the song and in that quote posted,
amy
>  says he (the chickenman) "sold her junk and conversation".  i can
understand
>  the poetic use of sold as opposed to literalness, but she plainly states
in
>  the quote she talked to him, but nothing was for sale.  then in the socs
she
>  repeatedly talks about forfeiting that opportunity to talk to him, being
>  "paralyzed by the moment stolen by hesitance" as i put it in a poem i
wrote
>  on this very subject, actually...  which was it?  did she talk to him??
>
maybe the junk and conversation that she sold, for something other than
money or materialistic items, wasn't with the chickenman, but it opened up a
discourse with herself with her life...  and there's so much he could have
told her without opening his mouth, any one else ever had an experience like
this?  when you meet someone and they all of a sudden hit you in a way
you've never been hit before and it sends you for a loop?
denise

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i can reconcile being pro choice and at the same time anti death penalty. being pro choice is looking at the welfare of the world and over population.  and being over populated is wrong especially when the children are born are not given the proper neccesities so that they have a chance of living.  being anti death penalty at the same time with pro choice is being socially repsonsible because killing someone does nothing for the person or the world.  it is immediate gratification.  abortion may be considered immediate gratification or along that line, but at the same time it is helping the world with birth control.  and at the same time infants are not really alive when they are inutero.  if we are going to get deep on what is alive and what isn't then we will have to say that eating meat is morally wrong.
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"homosexual issues: i favor the right of gays and lesbians to marry... i
don't favor the various hate crime laws because it weakens the right of
defense. murderers and rapists should be tried for murder and rape. win or
lose. i am not persuaded that they should also be tried because they
murdered out of hatred, etc. open letter: "we have made great progress on
the issues of gay and lesbian liberation - progress, which as a homosexual
who "came out" in 1969, i can measure with amazement. but it is a battle
that is not yet won."

this is from david mcreynolds, who came up as my best choice.... does anyone
else read this as him saying he's gay?

okay, can i just have a moment of silence in which to contemplate the mere
concept of a gay socialist being voted into the white house?!?!?!?!?!

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> -----original message-----
> in an ideal world abortion would be perfectly legal but no one would ever
> have to make that choice. if the pro and anti folks just spent their money
> on education and social programs...

ummm, i know naral does spend money on that because i just donated to that
part of their org. now if the anti's would get out of thinking that teaching
abstinance will work (yeah, about as well as "just say no" maybe some real
work can be done to make abortion unnecessary.

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