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date:         sat, 29 jul 2000 00:21:01 -0500
reply-to:     barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net>
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<<that variety of musical experiences at ig shows is one of the reasons
i enjoy them so much >>.

well, it's no secret, but one of the reasons  i enjoy ig shows is that
it's so fun to cut loose.  years ago you would never have seen me
dancing at concerts.....more likely i would have been one of those who
complain about  dancers. i hadn't gone to rock shows until ig. until
then i was  going to folk shows.....(and i mean really folky shows,
likejohn mccutcheon, sally rogers, odetta, peter
paul and mary, pete seeger. and let's not go to the  "what is folk
music" path. okay?)

so up until last year i'd sing my heart out at ig shows, then just last
show, i was on the main floor, and feeling free, so i danced too it was
great. and now tonight i put on i'm the only one, by melissa.  (she
sings so well on that!!.)

so now should i say "so long amy and emily i'm off to melissa now? i
don't think so.  i just
like that one song so far, melissa gets pretty
hard on my ears yet.

i hope everyone reading this has a wonderful
weekend.  tommorrow, (saturday) it will be back to long meetings, long
bus rides, lots of friends, and my latest greek mythology book.

take care,
barb

http://community.webtv.net/ritesofpassage9/foreverindigogirls

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date:         sat, 29 jul 2000 02:57:19 pdt
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to the girls who were playing the guitars after the hob show on friday
night...i hope you are on the list.  i wanted to say thanks for letting me
play, it was a blast.  and sorry about the broken string!
tammi
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date:         sat, 29 jul 2000 12:57:33 -0400
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i tried to catch it and ended up never hearing it - did anyone actually hear
it?


mike reynolds
http://www.uppity-disability.net/
"..let me speak the word that precedes bliss"
-tracy chapman

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date:         sat, 29 jul 2000 18:03:04 edt
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interesting poll, take a look at the questions they asked if you get a
chance......gore is losing by 7%   damnit   :(


newsweek poll: campaign 2000

bush leads gore by seven points, 47 to 40 percent;


up from dead heat in june newsweek polls


addition of cheney to gop ticket makes no difference to majority of voters;


even split on return of 'old guard'


new york, july 29 /prnewswire/ -- republican governor george w. bush of
texas leads democratic vice president al gore 47 to 40 percent among
registered voters in a four-way presidential trial heat, according to the
latest newsweek poll, with 4 percent for ralph nader and 2 percent for
pat buchanan.  in a two-way race bush leads gore 49 to 44 percent, up from a
virtual dead heat in three newsweek polls in june.  yet 35 percent of voters,
(31% of gore's supporters and 30% of bush's) say they might change their mind
before election day.

(photo:  http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20000729/hssa010 )


the latest poll also reveals that bush's selection of dick cheney as his
vice presidential running mate makes no difference to a majority (52%) of
voters.  but of those remaining, 26 percent said they were more inclined to
vote for bush with the addition of cheney, versus only 15 percent who said
they would be less likely to vote for him.  (seven percent were undecided.)
the results virtually match the reaction jack kemp received in 1996, when he
was picked as republican presidential candidate bob dole's running mate
(50% no difference; 27% more likely to vote in favor; 13% less likely; and
10% undecided).  by contrast, in 1992, 25 percent of voters said they would be
less likely to vote for president bush with vice president dan quayle as his
running-mate.

cheney's vote as a congressman against the head start educational program
scored highest as a potential vulnerability.  fifty percent of those surveyed
say this vote makes them think less of him.  his vote against a ban on
"cop-killer" bullets produced the second most negative reaction
(38% less favorable).  past votes about south africa seem to matter less.
only 30 percent and 32 percent of voters, respectively, say they feel less
favorable toward cheney because of his votes against economic sanctions to
pressure the apartheid government of south africa and a resolution calling for
nelson mandela's release.  and voters are evenly split on whether a
bush-cheney administration would be dominated by an "old guard" of those who
served former president bush and other past republican presidents
(40% yes, 40% no).

according to the poll, bush's lead comes largely from 30 to 49 year olds
(where he's up 50% to gore's 37%).  among independent voters bush holds a
sizable edge, 47 percent compared to gore's 31 percent.  and 73 percent of
those polled now say bush is intelligent and well informed -- up from
67 percent in june and virtually equal to the 77 percent who say that
description fits gore.  both candidates lose some of their party's voters to a
third party candidate.  five percent of democrats would vote for either
pat buchanan or ralph nader compared with 4 percent of republicans.

on the issues, people think bush will do a better job than gore in
reducing crime and violence (47% to 29%), on national defense (55% to 29%), on
appointing new justices to the supreme court (46% to 33%) and on upholding
moral values (45% to 35%).  also, on the traditionally democratic issue of
education, bush is almost even with gore when voters were asked who would best
handle education and vouchers (41% to 42%). gore leads as the candidate
thought best able to protect consumers in hmos (43% to 32%) and gay rights
(43% to 24%).

for this newsweek poll, princeton survey research associates interviewed
754 adults, age 18 and older, from july 27-28, 2000.  the margin of error is
plus or minus 4 percentage points.

(poll attached.  read newsweek's news releases at www.newsweek.msnbc.com .

click "pressroom.")


newsweek poll


pre-convention poll


princeton survey research associates


final topline results


(7/29/00)


n=754 registered voters


interviewing dates: 7/27-28/2000


sample size/margin of error for key subgroups:


754   total registered voters (plus or minus 4)


343   men (plus or minus 6)


411   women (plus or minus 5)


567   white, non-hispanic (plus or minus 5)


173   non-white (plus or minus 8)


124   18-29 (plus or minus 10)


282   30-49 (plus or minus 6)


330   50 and over (plus or minus 6)


290   college graduates (plus or minus 6)


188   some college (plus or minus 8)


265   no college (plus or minus 6)


243   republicans (plus or minus 7)


271   democrats (plus or minus 7)


202   independents (plus or minus 7)


301   gore supporters (plus or minus 6)


347   bush supporters (plus or minus 6)


* an asterisk indicates less than 1 percent


1.    suppose the presidential election were being held today and you


could choose among the following four candidates -- al gore, the democrat;


george w. bush, the republican; pat buchanan, the reform party candidate;


and ralph nader, the green party candidate.  who would you vote for?

(results include leaners)


gore bush buchanan  nader     undecided/other


total           40   47        2    4              7         =100


men             34   51        4    5              6         =100


women           45   42        1    4              8         =100


white,


non-hispanic   34   52        2    6              6         =100


non-white       60   27        2    2              9         =100


18-29           48   42        4    2              4         =100


30-49           37   50        3    4              6         =100


50 and over     38   45        2    7              8         =100


college


graduate       40   45        2    6              7         =100


some college    36   49        2    5              8         =100


no college      41   46        3    4              6         =100


republicans     6    88        2    2              2         =100


democrats       81   10        2    3              4         =100


independents    31   47        2    9              11        =100


trends


(6/29-30/00)    40   41        2    6              11        =100


(6/22-23/00)    40   42        2    3              13        =100


2.    suppose there were only two presidential candidates on the ballot


and you had to choose between al gore, the democrat, and george bush, the


republican.  who would you vote for? (results include leaners)


gore      bush      undecided/other


total           44        49             7         =100


trends


(6/29-30/00)    46        45             9         =100


(6/22-23/00)    45        45             10        =100


(6/1-2/00)      43        44             13        =100


(4/13-14/00)    42        44             14        =100


(4/7-8/00)      44        44             11        =100


(3/9-10/00)     44        47             9         =100


(2/24-25/00)    41        50             9         =100


(2/3-4/00)      45        47             8         =100


(1/13-14/00)    40        53             7         =100


(1/6-7/00)      43        50             7         =100


(11/18-19/99)   43        49             8         =100


(10/28-29/99)   39        53             8         =100


(10/21-22/99)   40        49             11        =100


(6/10-11/99)    38        54             8         =100


(5/6-7/99)      36        54             10        =100


(4/21-22/99)    41        48             11        =100


(3/4-5/99)      36        57             7         =100


trends prior to 6/22-23/00 are based on a slightly different question that


was not preceded by the four-way trial heat including buchanan and nader.

beginning with the survey conducted 6/22-23/00, voters who selected gore


or bush in the four-way trial heat were assigned to the candidate and not


asked the two-way trial heat.

3.    are you, yourself, planning to vote in the november election for


president, or not?

4.    have you made up your mind about who to vote for in the november


election for president, or not?

voting intentions/commitment


total                               gore      bush


97    total plan to vote            97        98


62    mind made up                  66        68


35    might change/not sure         31        30


3     don't plan to vote/don't know  3        2


100                                 100       100


5.    regardless of which presidential candidate you now support, in


general, would you like to see the next president continue with bill


clinton's policies, or change direction from clinton's policies?

continue  change    dk


current              41   48        11   =100


trends


(3/9-10/00)          43   49        8    =100


(10/28-29/99)        48   43        9    =100


(8/88 - reagan)      36   57        7    =100


6.    next, please tell me whether or not you think each of the following


phrases describes al gore.  (first,) what about...(insert-read and


randomize)?  does this describe al gore, or not?

yes       no        dk


a.    has strong leadership qualities


total                                    52        37        11   =100


trends


(6/29-30/00)                             52        37        11   =100


(3/9-10/00)                              53        40        7    =100


(10/21-22/99)                            45        44        11   =100


(5/14/99)                                44        46        10   =100


b.    is honest and ethical


total                                    56        33        11   =100


trends


(6/29-30/00)                             55        32        13   =100


(3/9-10/00)                              59        31        10   =100


(10/21-22/99)                            61        23        16   =100


(5/14/99)                                61        28        11   =100


c.    is intelligent and well informed


total                                    77        17        6    =100


trend


(6/29-30/00)                             74        18        8    =100


d.    cares about people like you


total                                    55        33        12   =100


trends


(3/9-10/00)                              57        35        8    =100


(10/21-22/99)                            51        33        16   =100


(5/14/99)                                53        38        9    =100


e.    shares your views on most major


political issues


total                                    43        46        11   =100


trends


(3/9-10/00)                              44        48        8    =100


(10/21-22/99)                            38        44        17   =100


(5/14/99)                                41        46        13   =100


7.    next, please tell me whether or not you think each of the following


phrases describes george w. bush.  (first,) what about...(insert-read and


randomize)?   does this describe george w. bush, or not?

yes  no   dk


a.    has strong leadership qualities


total                                         67   21   12   =100


trends


(6/29-30/00)                                  65   24   11   =100


(3/9-10/00)                                   65   29   6    =100


(5/14/99)                                     71   13   16   =100


b.    is honest and ethical


total                                         64   24   12   =100


trends


(6/29-30/00)                                  59   26   15   =100


(3/9-10/00)                                   61   28   11   =100


(5/14/99)                                     67   17   16   =100


c.    is intelligent and well informed


total                                         73   19   8    =100


trend


(6/29-30/00)                                  67   25    8   =100


d.    cares about people like you


total                                         55   34   11   =100


trend


(3/9-10/00)                                   54   37   9    =100


(6/10-11/99)                                  52   20   28   =100


(5/14/99)                                     58   26   16   =100


e.    shares your views on most major


political issues


total                                         53   36   11   =100


trend


(3/9-10/00)                                   48   43   9    =100


(5/14/99)                                     50   32   18   =100


8.    regardless of which presidential candidate you now support, please


tell me whether you think al gore or george w. bush would do a better job


of handling each of the following issues as president.  (first,) what


about ...(insert-read and randomize)?

gore bush same/no diff   neither   dk


a.    the economy and jobs     44   41        5         2         8  =100


b.    reducing crime and


violence                 29   47        9         5         10 =100


c.    abortion                 37   34        7         4         18 =100


d.    social security          40   43        4         3         10 =100


e.    taxes                    38   42        5         3         12 =100


f.    education and vouchers   42   41        5         1         11 =100


g.    protecting consumers


in hmos                 43   32        3         4         18 =100


h.    gay rights               43   24        4         5         24 =100


i.    national defense         29   55        5         2         9  =100


j.    foreign policy           40   43        4         3         10 =100


k.    upholding moral values   35   45        8         4         8  =100


l.    appointing new justices to


the supreme court


total                    33   46        5         3         13 =100


trend


(6/29-30/00)             40   37        5         5         13 =100


9.    this week, george w. bush named dick cheney as his vice presidential


running mate.  does bush's choice of cheney make you more likely or less


likely to vote for bush in november - or does it not make much difference


either way?

more      less      no difference  dk


total                26        15             52        7    =100


republicans          48        2              44        6    =100


democrats            7         24             64        5    =100


independents         27        19             45        9    =100


trends


(8/8-9/96 - kemp)    27        13             50        10   =100


(8/10/92 - quayle)   6         25             68        1    =100


(8/17-18/88 -


quayle)            10        10             73        7    =100


note:  the 1996 poll question was asked hypothetically prior to kemp


announcement; trend for 1992 is gallup; trend for 1988 is gordon black for


usa today.

10.   do you think dick cheney...(read and randomize)


yes  no   dk


a.    is qualified to step in as president if


he had to?

total                                              60   18   22   =100


trends*:


(8/11/96 - kemp)                                   61   16   24   =100


(7/23/24/92 - quayle)                              36   60   4    =100


(8/18-19/88 - quayle)                              43   36   21   =100


b.    will be an effective campaigner for the


republican ticket?                           64   14   22   =100


c.    is in good enough health to be in the role


of vice president?                           58   14   28   =100


d.    brings needed foreign policy and defense


experience to the republican ticket?         65   11   24   =100


* note: trend for 1996 is from gallup/cnn/usa today.

11.   from what you know about dick cheney's political views and voting


record in the u.s. congress, do you think bush picked a running mate who


is too conservative, not conservative enough, or is about right in his


politics?

total                         rep.      dem.      ind.

17   too conservative         8         25        19


7    not conservative enough  4         8         9


51   about right              68        41        46


25   don't know               20        26        26


100                           100       100       100


12.   does the choice of dick cheney make you think that...(read and


randomize)


yes  no   dk


a.    a bush-cheney administration would be


influenced too much by big oil


companies?                              35   42   23   =100


b.    a bush-cheney administration would be


dominated by an "old guard" of those who


served former president bush and other


past republican presidents?             40   40   20   =100


c.    if george w. bush is elected, his father -


former president bush - would make key


decisions behind the scenes?            34   51   15   =100


13.   as i read you a list of votes dick cheney made while serving as a


u.s. congressman from wyoming, please tell me if each makes your opinion


of cheney more favorable or less favorable -- or doesn't make much


difference either way.

first, what about... (insert-read and randomize)?

read for first item, then repeat as necessary: does this make your


opinion of him more favorable or less favorable -- or does it not make


much difference?

more less no diff.  dk


a.    cheney's vote against the


head start education program            12   50        29   9  =100


b.    cheney's vote against a gun


control measure to ban so-called


"cop-killer" bullets                    27   38        26   9  =100


c.    cheney's votes against imposing


economic sanctions on the apartheid


government of south africa              14   30        42   14 =100


d.    cheney's vote against a non-binding


resolution calling for the release of


anti-apartheid leader nelson mandela    17   32        37   14 =100
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date:         sat, 29 jul 2000 18:10:10 edt
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face of gop: white, middle class
by eun-kyung kim
philadelphia (ap) - republicans strategically placed high-profile minorities
and women in their convention lineup to help construct the multicultural and
inclusive party image promised by george w. bush. the list of speakers to hit
the stage includes hispanics, blacks, muslims and asians - young and old.

americans will see a ''different kind of republican convention'' this year,
pennsylvania gov. tom ridge promised in saturday's weekly gop radio address.
featured speakers, he said, ''will display a positive, unifying vision of
america.''

but inside the halls, the speakers will address a crowd of overwhelmingly
white, predominantly male, and mostly middle-aged delegates.

''these are the activists' activists. they are the cream of the crop of the
people who run the party,'' said larry sabato, a government professor at the
university of virginia. ''the delegation is not a mirror of america, it's a
mirror of the elite in america.''

about 83 percent of the gop delegates convening here are white, with nearly a
dozen states sending delegations that are completely white, the associated
press found in interviews with 1,837 of the 2,066 delegates. another 4
percent are black, 1.3 percent asian, 0.8 percent mixed race and 0.4 percent
native american. the rest did not answer the question. about 3 percent,
included in racial categories, said they were hispanic.

the u.s. census bureau says 82 percent of america's population is white, 13
percent black, 4 percent asian and 0.9 percent native american.

at the gop convention, men make up 61 percent of the delegates, women 34
percent, with the rest unknown. america's population is about evenly divided
between men and women.

the delegates are well-educated, with about 71 percent having graduated from
college and half of that group having taken postgraduate work.

delegates usually are hard-working volunteers and officials, many of whom are
chosen at caucuses attended by local activists and the party faithful, said
andy card, general co-chairman of the republican national convention.

''frankly, you're rewarding people who worked hard in previous election
cycles,'' he said, adding, ''the people who vote for republicans are much
more diverse.''

while democrats have rules requiring each state delegation to be split evenly
between men and women and to set goals for filling delegate slots for
minorities, the republicans have no such rules.

but z. dwight billingsly, one of the few black gop delegates, said who the
delegates are is less important that what they do.

''appearances mean nothing. appearances are not substance,'' said the st.
louis investor. ''the democrats definitely look more inclusive, but if you're
looking for substance, then look at the black people who are involved with
the republican party, because they are the ones really involved in the
serious side of business. they're not there for show.''

other details the ap learned about the republican delegation:

the average delegate age is 47.

about 29 percent of all delegates hold elective office, ranging from school
board member to a member of congress.

more than half will be first-time delegates to a national convention. at the
other extreme is charles thone of lincoln, neb., who has been a delegate at
every republican convention starting in 1952.

three-quarters of the delegates are married. the average number of children
is two, although two delegates have 12 children.

most of the delegates, 70 percent, oppose civil union rights and benefits for
gay couples. only 6 percent said a state's marriage laws should provide such
rights.

four 19-year-olds can claim the status as youngest delegates. south carolina
sen. strom thurmond is the oldest at 97.

"a cnn-time survey released friday gave bush an edge over vice president al
gore, 52 percent to 36 percent, with green party candidate ralph nader at 5
percent and pat buchanan of the reform party at 4 percent."

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how about a setlist or review from last night's hob?  anyone?  i couldn't go
so i'd love to hear about it.  thanks.

vicki
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date:         sat, 29 jul 2000 01:59:15 -0700
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a few observations ...

-while i enjoyed being 10 feet from the stage, the sound quality wasn't
particularly great. it was hard to hear the vocals, and emily kept turning
to the person on the soundboard to turn other things down. i was on the
second floor at the wiltern show last year, and the sound was amazing.
compared to that, this was a disappointment.

-vonda shepard was a great surprise! i don't know why she got to do a solo
number in the middle of the set. it seemed kind of odd, and vonda seemed
surprised that they were leaving the stage after "baby don't you break my
heart slow." i wished she would have played one of her more upbeat songs.

-i was surprised that they didn't play "cold beer," considering its the next
single.

-i hope these two shows blow away the l.a.-is-a-tough-audience myth.

-the girls did a decent job rapping with mrs. fun. it would be interesting
if they did their own rap.

-maybe i've been to one too many shows, but the setlist seemed heavy with
crowd-pleasers. i love "power of two" and "least complicated," but i've
heard them at almost every show i've gone to. the fact that the show was
being recorded for webcast might have had something to do with it. (when
they put the show up on hob.com, look for me in the audience. i'm on emily's
side. i waved at the camera a couple of times.)

-i know amy is passionate about the death penalty issue, but i really could
do without hearing "faye tucker" again.

-at the end of the solo on "galileo," i'm not quite sure what happened, but
i think emily accidentally moved her left hand up one fret too high. it was
a jarring experience for several seconds. she shook her head and recovered
for the last verse.

-i finally got a guitar pick!!! it's the little things that make me happy.
:)

april

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date:         sat, 29 jul 2000 23:30:28 -0500
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does anyone know how i can contact whoever
works the igwebsite (the official one that is)
i can't access the backstage interview and i suspect it's not webtv
compatible. and i would like to make that suggestion to their webmaster.

peace,
barb

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date:         sun, 30 jul 2000 00:30:51 edt
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sorry about the nigc and to any bush fans if i offend, but i just have to rant. i can't stand george bush solely on the fact that he didn't give correctional officers that well deserved raise we asked for but gave the director a 26,000 raise. i work for the texas department of criminal justice and, believe me, we work hard in a disgustingly poor environment (no air conditioning, unruly inmates, short-handed employees, etc.) at my unit alone we are 221 bosses short and dropping, 20 of which quit only last week. i think they should raise the pay and raise the standards of employment so that we are not scraping the bottom of the barrel for workers to fill in the priority positions. if they raised the pay i'm sure that people would be more apt to stay on and work and if they raised the standards of employment we wouldn't be getting a bunch of clueless newboots with no "snap" about them.
but anyway, sorry for the rant. if you want to respond to this or know anyone in a high office that could talk to bush (lol....yeh right...just kidding) please respond to me privately...
i just had to say something. i cringe whenever i hear bush's name.
oh, one last thing. there's an article in the sept issue of penthouse (i can't stand the mag but the article is insightful and well written) regarding george bush and the trouble with tdcj if anyone wants to check it out.
later,
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hey y'all!
i just got back from one of the best concerts i've ever seen.  the fat fry
was an awesome day!  i got there a little early and met up with katherine
and sarah (thanks for letting us join you in line :), and then we all found
ourselves a nice little "home" for the day right smack in front, and amongst
many other very cool ig fans. we had our blankets, our snacks, water, and
all the little comforts one could want for an all day music festival.  it
was beautiful.  aptos village park was beautiful, surrounded by trees, and
right next to a creek that one could end up at if she wandered off the
beaten path. the people were beautiful, happy, and peaceful, and even amy
and emily mentioned that.  they said something along those lines...that the
venue was beautiful and all the people were beautiful and "loving each
other, loving life..." as emily put it.  all day long, i was just in awe at
how relaxed the atmosphere was.
the other bands that played the festival were great.  joules graves--cool.
mumbo gumbo--wow, great...they've got quite an array of instruments and some
pretty cool female singers/guitarists, one of which also played saxophone
and washboard.  altan--lovely, relaxing, uplifting, irish folk music.  and
then indigo girls.  ok, here's my try at the setlist (i've got the cds next
to me to help me remember, so forgive me if they're sorted by album :)
perhaps, katherine can post the correct order since she scored a setlist...
:)

ozilline
soon be to nothing
gone again
trouble
sister (amy told the story about how she went to visit someone on her
motorcycle but it was warm when she left so she didn't bring rain gear, then
got stuck in the rain, and had a scary trip home, etc.)
peace tonight
cold beer and remote control
faye tucker (during the song, and towards the end, amy yelled something like
"this song's for all the prisoners on death row!")
closer to fine
kid fears
tried to be true
three hits
virginia woolf
shame on you
get out the map
shed your skin (the "boogie song", to hopefully bring back riley, a dog of
amy's friend's, lost in felton, a rural town in the santa cruz mountains)
least complicated
the wood song (emily "fucked up" in the beginning and had to start over.
i've never seen them mess up before, and they each had a little fumble or
two tonight, which was very amusing)
galileo

i think that's it. the girls were all smiles through the whole show.  i
suspected that would be the case for many reasons, and it was.  they seemed
to have a great time, and i sure as hell did!  first of all, it was santa
cruz, a very beautiful, very politically liberal, wonderful little town
(well the concert was actually in aptos, which is near enough to santa cruz
to have the same culture), and from what i know about amy and emily, they
would love that town.  also, it was outside in a gorgeous venue, and people
were happy.  "a lot different from l.a.", as amy said.  and, it was their
last show of the tour, so i'm sure that livened them up.  seriously, in the
10 times i've seen them, i don't think i've seen them smile that much.
let's see what other little tidbits i can remember about the show...

amy was having trouble with her guitar in the first song, so they brought
her out the black one, which screwed her up in the next song because she had
a different guitar than she thought she was supposed to have, or something
like that.  she had to stop and start over and was joking about how "the
frets are farther apart or something."
and she broke a string later in the show, which is only amusing to me
because i've seen watershed a million times. :)

they mentioned that they were on kpig (a very cool radio station that plays
country, folk, blues, and a little rock), and emily said something about how
it was great to be on a "cool radio station", and then amy said "it's great
to be on any radio station at all!"

they took note of the politics in santa cruz and were envious of that, and
observed the fog rolling in, which doesn't happen where they're from
(forgive me if these are boring details, but i liked hearing what they had
to say about a town that i proudly lived in for 5 years).

some girl (who is probably on this list) smartly and luckily took advantage
of a dead moment and politely asked amy if she could have her pick.  amy
said "i don't know if i can get it right to you", and the girl stepped
forward, as amy took the pick out of her mouth, held it up, licked it, and
then threw it to her.  someone else picked it up and gave it to the girl,
who promptly put it in her mouth (sorry, but...yuck!), and they both laughed
at how nice that was that the person gave it to her.  emily said that was
sweet and compared it to a baseball game (like catching fly balls, i'm
assuming).

after the encore, they took their time leaving the stage. they gathered the
band members, and all took a bow and hugged each other.  as they said, that
show was a great way to end their tour.

there's more i had to say, but i'm drawing a blank.  it was just so frickin'
awesome to see amy and emily in a setting like that and having such a good
time.  it was a special concert...unique and intimate.

and it was daylight, so i got to take lots of cool pictures. :)

now no more ig concerts for me for some unknown amount of months.  i hate
that...

leslie
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so, i just got back from a day in lovely santa cruz, or aptos, more
precisely. wow. i don't know how this happened, but we ended up in the
front row. almost dead center. the front row. wow.

i'm sure someone will post a play-by-play of the actual concert, but
here's the setlist:

ozillene
peace tonight
3 hits
trouble
tried to be true
wood song
sister
least complicated
go
virginia woolf
gone again
cold beer
faye tucker
get out the map
shed your skin
soon be to nothing
shame on you
closer to fine
kid fears
galileo

a great set list. since this was their last night with the band, they
said they let the band pick the songs. wow. a highlight - best version
of sister ever. another highlight, amy saying, "you guys are so great
that i'm smiling too much. it's making my head hurt!"

so the show was awesome. afterward we hung around, but there weren't
many picks since amy had been chucking them at blair during one part of
the show. most people left. me and listee mandy and a few others hung
around the longest. thanks to the goodness of a brown-haired woman who
was working on stage, both mandy and i got setlists! (mandy was nice
enough to give the first one to me, and then the woman went back and
got one for *her*). after everyone else left, i was waiting for my
friend to get back from the bathroom, and one of the stage hands walked
over and tossed me a pick. then later, as we were waiting by the exit,
he asked if i wanted some drumsticks. sure! so i gave all but two away,
and the pick too.

my friend and i ended up hanging out by the room where they were all
eating dinner. some guy gave us his all-access wrist bands as he was
leaving, so we sat with three or four other girls and could *see* the
girls and the band and their friends eating dinner and drinking and
talking.

after about an hour and a half, they came out and signed our stuff.
they were very nice, as always, and very gracious, but also tired. i
made a point of thanking both of them and especially for sticking
around after the show.

i got my setlist autographed and then got to chat with blair, who was
very nice and seemed a little surprised that someone asked for his
autograph. he asked my name, and then said, "hey, cool!" and asked how
i liked the shows. that was cool.

so one of the best parts of the evening was as we were getting on
highway 1 to go back up to san jose. the bus was ahead of us. right
ahead of us, except i wasn't sure until we passed it. so basically, the
indigo girls followed us all the way home. how strange. it made the
40-some miles go really really fast though.

all in all, an amazing evening. i took 3 rolls of film, so hopefully a
few pics turn out and i'll be able to share them.

love,
amy

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date:         sun, 30 jul 2000 14:28:48 +0100
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hi y'all,

i went to the womad festival last week for the first time - totally cool.
it was the first music festival i've been to in the uik, and it had a
really nice vibe. very calm and peaceful.

anyway, i was wondering if any of you have heard of a band called fruit.
they're an australian band, who cite ig as an influence (or at the least so
the festival guide claims). i didn't get a chance to see them live, but i
did pick up one of their cd's, and they sound really great.

hope you're all ok,

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        hey y'all -
        okay. so i know i'm really late. this unexpectedly ended up being
a many-tiered event for me, which is why this post is going to be so long.
it's the only time i've actually traveled to see the girls this summer
(rather than them playing wherever it is i already am) and it was well
worth the trip. the short version is, i got into the webcast and went to
the concert. i'm way late on this, so i'm not going to post much about the
concert itself.
        my friend amy (who had traveled in from reno) and i arrived around
2 to stake out a spot in line. amy left at around 4:30 to retrieve our
friend lauren (the la local) from work and meet me back at hob. just as
amy left, these pairs of people began to arrive all at once, people whom i
would not have pegged as the camp-in-line types... well, they weren't.
they were the folks who had won tickets from the radio, which entitled
them and a guest to a pre-concert party, the radio station involved, 101.3
world class rock, just lost its... oh, rats, i don't know the tech talk,
but they lost their broadcast rights and are now moving exclusively to
webcasting. this particular eveninng was their kickoff party, so just
about every bigwig from the company that owns 101.3 (they also own two
other radio stations) was there. those are probably the wheeler-dealer
types who were cruising the back...
        so anyway, these folks get checked off the official list, the two
guys working the table slap a wristband on them, and they go in. a girl
who had just managed to buy a single ticket flashed a smile and asked to
be let in... and they let her go! i went up to the table straightaway,
asked some questions (the party was dinner and a webcast, after which
those guests would be shunted back out into line around 7:00)  and asked
to be let in as well. they told me to wait a bit, until they were sure
they had enough wristbands, but when i told them i already had a ticket
and just wanted to go to the webcast, they waved me in.
        i felt a little bad about being there, so i didn't eat any of the
food (though it looked good.) instead, i milled until one of the radio
station djs came up and announced technical difficulties and said the
webcast was going to be a little late. naturally i was shocked by this
development (not) but i heard a banjo strain, so i slipped downstairs to
the club itself.
        there were perhaps 5 other fans there - it was mostly tech people
milling about the club stage while we sat in the stools that sided the
floor. they practiced... oh cripes, i wish i had taken notes. the end of
shame on you, and ozilline, and andy. then emily aid something about
rehearsing "vonda's song" and looked to the corner of the stage i couldn't
see, where the keyboard was - vonda (presumably) seated herself and they
practiced that one, with emily relearning her part as they went
along. then they practiced what turned out to be the derek trucks song,
while vonda shepard was interviewed in a corner... and when i looked over,
i realized that up until about 2 minutes before she went onstage, vonda
had been sitting next to me, which was just icing on the cake of good if
somewhat bizarre fortune.
        when they finally let folks in for the webcast, i had the
advantage of being inside already and i ended up front and center. if any
of y'all watched te webcast, you probably saw me - i saw the cameramen
doing crowd pans during the musical performance - i was the curly-haired
one goggling at emily <g>. it'll be archived soon, i'm sure, so i won't
recap the interview, but they played cold beer, go and closer to fine. and
then they shunted us outside to wait in line. i got a pick from sulli,
though, and i'd grabbed an album flat as gifts for my friends who'd been
stuck in traffic while i was there.

****
        the concert itself was quite good. it was the most boisterous
crowd i think i've ever seen, which i guess isn't too surprising for a
concert in a bar. most of the people around us were really nice (you'll
have to email me privately if you want the scoop on the people who were
not nice, because i don't think i'm allowed to use that kind of language
onlist) and on the whole the energy was good. i got a little tired of
people singing along to the quiet songs... it's basically like folks have
been saying. but whatever - i can understand why people want to sing. what
bothered me rather more were the comments (i.e. during virginia woolf, on
the line "the place where you hold me..." someone from the back crowed out
"hold me, emily!") because those strike me as genuinely disruptive,
especially in the middle of the quieter songs. amy and emily have probably
developed a "think positive" filter over the years, though (and more power
to them) because their response to the audience was really positive
(although to be honest it was amy who did most of that talking, whereas
emily fielded more disruptive comments.) but they were happy with the
energy of the show, and if they're happy, i'm happy. happy enough to
mostly be able to overlook the rude things that other fans sometimes do.
        gosh, i sound whiny. i'm sorry. it really only was a few people; i
guess i've just been spoiled by ig concerts and crowds. here's the setlist
- i'm not sure of the precise order other than the first few songs and the
encore, but i think it's close. somebody please correct me if i missed
something.

ozilline
trouble
three hits (with brief intro about frank stanford - this was performed
   full-band, which was interesting because earlier in the summer they
   were playing it acoustic)
least complicated
compromise
virginia woolf
gone again
soon be to nothing
shed your skin (with mrs. fun)
closer to fine
shame on you
power of two
baby don't you break my heart slow (directly followed by vonda's own song,
   which was just her and her guitarist)
ghost
faye tucker (which kicked ass... i think amy had been reading the news
   that day, because she opened it by saying "this one goes out to
   governor bush" and she sounded angrier than i've ever heard)
get out the map (with vonda shepard)
go
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derek trucks song with rick the bus driver
galileo

        derek trucks, btw, has a website at (surprise
surprise) derektrucks.com - i couldn't get it to load successfully beyond
the main page so i wasn;t able to track down the specific song and figure
out the title, but there's the link for anyone interested.

        mandy
        on t osanta cruz...


                this world falls on me
                with dreams of immortality
                everywhere i turn
                all the beauty just keeps shaking me

                                amy ray

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hi,
is anyone else having trouble with the link for this? my real player pulls
up the intro piece where they introduce summer nights at the pier and closer
to fine is playing. but when i click on the listen to interview link, it
says there's an error. is this my computer or a universal problem?
i'm curious to hear this interview since i was at the show, and those of us
at the pier all missed it. thanks for your help.
becky
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hey kind friends,

we are back from what was, for me, the best indigo girls concert i've ever
experienced...

  the day was lovely, and the high, the wonder of it all, will stay with me
for a very long time. it started off so well, meeting fellow listee's leslie
and nok (sp?) in line. thanks to my athletic 12 year old daughter, sarah, who
risked life and limb :) racing down the hill, we scored excellent lawn
seating, right up front and center.

  the three other performers/bands were certainly no disappointment, either.
the festival started with jules (love the lyrics and her incredibly positive
attitude), mumbo-jumbo (sort of cheryl crowish - with a folksy/bluesy bend)
and altan, an irish band that could give  enya a run for her money.

the weather was perfect and we met up with the coolest group of fellow indie
fans. the hours leading up to the girl's set were passed listening to great
music, hanging out with good friends old and new, playing cards, strategizing
on how best to not be stampeded when the set began, getting to know each
other and sharing indie stories. our little area was surrounded on every side
by people whom we truly enjoyed spending time with. and then it was 5:30, the
crowd let out a scream and amy and emily and co came bouncing up to the stage.

  it was immediately visible how happy they were to being there. many, many
times they commented on the people "ya'll are beautiful! " "ya'll are the
best !" and the smiles, again, i have never seen them look and act so
absolutely happy. amy was just beaming when she wasn't singing. she also
tossed picks at blair as he was playing, joked with emily, and just let us
know how happy she was to be at this venue, with this group of people.
at one point emily said "we love our band" then grimaced and stated
something like "that sounds terrible, we don't own them. let's see...  ' we
love the people who play with us."

amy kept rubbing her temples and closing her eyes during one of emily's songs
then explained saying "i'm not used to smiling this much, i swear it's giving
me a headache" then laughed. she certainly didn't play or sing like she
wasn't feeling well.

and, here's the perk for me, and ultimately all of you wonderful souls, i
shot 4 rolls of incredible photos, which, of course, i had developed at a one
hour place on the way home today. they are so expressive and i got both amy
and emily laughing, smiling, intense, singing, rocking out. also, many close
ups that are so clear. i was so happy seeing these pictures because it
brought back the incredible mood and feeling of the concert. i was sort of
seat dancing in the car just *looking* at them.

and another huge perk, not once did i hear anyone scream out "gallileo!!!"
or be obnoxious during a slow song. the crowd was both wildly enthusiastic
and respectful, an amazing combination.

i can't believe what a perfect day it was, and how incredibly lucky i feel to
have been a part of it.

rock on, rock on :)
katherine

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i knew i was forgetting something important (sheesh) sarah scored a pick and,
after the concert finished and the field was nearly empty, i noticed this
dark haired woman clearing the stage. i asked "may i please have a set list
?" she replied so good naturedly, as if she had never heard this request
before and proceeded to search around the stage for one. i got blairs, i
think. here goes:

ozilline
peace tonight
three hits
trouble
tried to be true
wood song
sister
least complicated
go
virginia woolf
gone again
get out the map (this had an arrow next to it connecting with cbarc two lines
down, so i'm not sure which one they did first)
faye tucker
cold beer and remote control
shed your skin
soon be to nothing
shame on you
closer to fine
(dark line indicating encore)
kid fears
galileo (which was mispelled galilleo)

oh, and did i tell you what an incredible show this was ? :)

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        this was such a great way to end the summer tour. as somebody who
has basically been on tour with the girls this summer (having seen them 7
times in 4 different states, plus the opportunity to see all 3 mn shows,
which i skipped) i thought this was the perfect way to close out. the band
made the set list last night, prompting a bit of a ramble from emily on
how sad they'll be to part ways for the time being. they chatted a *lot* -
fat fry  was a very laid-back kinda place, and even when people crowded
forward for ig it was nothing like a normal show. people could walk pretty
easily through the ransk of fans to cut up to the front to take pictures,
and a lot of people did - they were all really polite, popping up to the
front, snapping a few photos and leaving so they wouldn't block us. the
girls started the show a little bit low-energy but picked right up on the
vibe and started grinning.
        i'm late as usual, so i'll try to fill in the cracks with neato
moments (and there were a lot):


* amy's guitar went out during tried to be true. she had to stop playing,
of course, but she kept singing, and her tech fergie (finally learned his
name! he's british - he must have come with ghostland)  ran out another
guitar to her, which she strapped on hardly missing a beat. the first of
many technical glitches, like that fabulous concert at berkeley back in
1997.

* on the wood song, they were playing the intro when amy stopped playing
suddenly and laughed, waving at emily until she stopped, too. (to be fair,
emily screwed up later during vw, laughed and apologized.) they had this
hilarious little discussion then, about what amy had done wrong, which
ended with amy saying "no, i'm just a bad... all right."

* sister was amazing. i mean oh my god - did somebody record this? please?
if ig ever do another 1200 curfews type project, i simply cannot imagine
them not using this version of this song, but they may not do that. it was
kind of funny to find out that the song was just about going to see a
concert in alabama and getting stuck in the rain on a motorcycle... i'd
always thought it was so metaphorical. oh well <g>

        i think everything else has been covered, and i hope i'm not
repeating anybody too much... :)

        mandy,
        almost glad to be taking a break from ig. okay, not really.


                this world falls on me
                with dreams of immortality
                everywhere i turn
                all the beauty just keeps shaking me

                                amy ray

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quick y'all....

i need guitar tabs for pot....have some girls with guitars who
need to perform this soon....need the website for it now, if
possible.  thanks!!!!!

lisa s (not d.)    :)
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hey-- ii have read alot lately where everyone has been really impressed with
the song sister-- i must say it is great if you ever have the chance to see
it live. the only time i've seen them perform it was b'ham 9/29/99...the day
after cons was released-- anyhow amy told her story about the rainy trip on
her motorcycle and when she sand the part "sister i'm headed outta
alabama..." we <the crowd> went nuts and she totally messed up and she joked
about how she was gonna say it every verse. hope y'all have a wonderful day!!
--ash

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hey  all..

just thought i'd post a bit about the second hob night since i didn't see any
reviews.. it rocked :) it was such a good show and a great crowd, albeit a
little noisy during the slow songs, but they knew all the words to all their
parts (i always hate it when people don't know they're supposed to sing
during kid fears..) anyway, it was great :) oh and i really liked the
butchies too.. their instruments were turned up too loud though so it was
hard to hear what they were saying (i realize it's punk and it's supposed to
sound like that but i like to hear lyrics..) i meant to get a cd of theirs
but by the time the show was over i was ready to leave and get off my feet..
my sister and i got there around 8 and that worked out perfectly. we ended up
about 4 rows back from the stage on emily's side .. oh and amy looked
gorgeous :) she was wearing this blue button-down shirt that had rhinestones
on it and it was kinda tight and she had it unbuttoned at the top so the
tattoo was visible :) (is it hot in here??)

anyway, setlist transcribed from my tape of the show...
peace tonight
ozilline
least complicated
faye tucker
andy
gone again
closer to fine
sister
get out the map (vonda came out and sang back up)
chickenman - with a small song right before the "i went looking for a girl.."
bit - something about traveling
vonda and em: baby don't you break my heart slow
vonda solo: i'm not familiar with vonda's  stuff but this was a really nice
song with lots of la la la la la's (anyone know the name?)
go
power of two
kid fears
trouble
scooter boys
virginia woolf
shame on you
---
encore: mystery :)
two songs with butchies:
laramie
mountains of glory (maybe??)
galileo

anyway, it totally rocked.. i loved laramie and the other song was good too,
although there were more instruments than vocals on those two songs, so the
tape is a little hard to make out lyrics from, so if anyone has lyrics to
laramie can you post em? i can make out the bit "hey all you drunkards,
hunting season's over" though :)

anyway, they played for about 2 solid hours and seemed pretty happy :) amy
smiled a lot :)

onto the fat fry.. i went very late since i got back from la at about 1:00
and then took a nap :p so i made it there about 15 minutes before the girls
came on.. i ended up right in the front row in front of emily (without even
having to stand on anyone's blankets :) aren't you proud of me??) i was
standing next to two cool fans - one girl was also named lisa and she had a
crossword puzzle answer book she wanted to give to them and i kept yelling
emily's name trying to get her attention so that lisa could give it to her
but emily never looked our way. the other girl was wearing a michelle malone
t-shirt and was having lots of fun :) it was great. she was taping too and
about halfway through the show security made her give them her recorder and
tape, which they gave back to her (the tape too) after the show.. that really
kinda pissed me off because there was a woman behind me who was filming with
a camcorder and there were no signs anywhere saying no recorders.. grr... so
i had to hide mine for the rest of the show (which i usually do anyway but it
just made me grumpy) anyway, i didn't bring my camera and i wish i had since
i was so close. amy looked really cute again and was wearing a semi-tight
greenish tank top and a blue short-sleeved button-down shirt... :)

anyway, i had fun :) sulli seemed grumpy in la and took some of the setlists
off the stage without giving them to the girls in front.. she seemed ok at
santa cruz i guess... but she got big cheers when emily introduced her to
thank her during the show.

so i haven't taped the new two shows for me yet so please wait a few days
before harassing me :) i think the hob will have to go on a 120min tape and
the fat fry should easily fit on a 110min tape, although i switched tapes
while amy was talking about the missing dog, so that's not on there and also
there's me yelling "emily! emily! emily!" a couple times :p i'll post all the
details in a few days when the tapes are done (but if you took any close-up
pics at the fat fry or hob, i'd love to trade a tape for 3 or 4 pics :)

on a nigc note, this was in my mail from michelle malone:
<<everyone is now invited to record any and all of my shows...
and feel free to trade them with friends...just please don't sell them :)
...send me the good ones!>>

:) lisa

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in a message dated 7/28/00 4:02:44 pm eastern daylight time,
carrie.pattison@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu writes:

<< go to the www.indigogirls.com
site and you will find the link to the ra interview on the news page. >>

was anyone on aol able to access this interview?
any pointers would be appreciated.
rena

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august 2 (80)
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august 3 ('78)
sweetjane@geocities.com (heather solimini)

august 3 (80)
cheesehed@juno.com (kristina)
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worth your while" ~~emily saliers


happy happy!

love and indigo dreams,
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hey all! i really want to thank all of you so much for posting all your
show reviews for us!! its almost like we can imagine exactly
what went on! its neat to see how shows can really differ from
eachother, even in the songs are similar! the audience really helps
or hinders in setting moods! sometimes 'we' may forget that our girls
are only human and it is amazing that their enthusiam never
dies day after day after tour after tour! they are as relentless and
passionate at the first show of a leg as they are at the last!! i
know most bands tour, but very few as frequently as the girls so! btwn
all their activism, being a part of other tours, showing up
at protests, doing interviews, etc, its amazing they can even get up the
next day!!

btw, i met someone in atlanta (on my way to  decator, ga for the wedding
of one of my best friends and her gf!!) who said
emily owns, besides the restaurant, a store where you can buy recycled
goods or sumtin?? anyone know anything about this??
please tell!! :)

ok, here is the random news bit! ppl just kill me! im tellin ya, fear
makes ppl do very interesting things!  here it is!

              hawaii ad: concern about gay symbol played role in change

              honolulu (ap) - the university of hawaii is being
criticized by
              gay rights advocates over its decision to change the
nickname and
              logo of the school's football team. hawaii officials
announced
              wednesday that they were changing the team's nickname from
the
              rainbow warriors to, simply, the warriors, and replacing
the
              77-year-old rainbow logo. athletic director hugh yoshida
then
              admitted that the decision stemmed partly from concerns
about how
              the rainbow has become a symbol of gay pride and
acceptance.
              "that logo really put a stigma on our program at times in
regards
              to it's part of the gay community, their flags and so
forth,"
              yoshida told kgmb 9 tv in honolulu. "some of the student
athletes
              had some feelings in regards to that." ken miller,
co-chairman of
              the gay and lesbian community center in honolulu, called
the
              decision bigoted and ignorant.

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<br>hey all! i really want to thank all of you so much for posting all
your show reviews for us!! its almost like we can imagine exactly
<br>what went on! its neat to see how shows can really differ from eachother,
even in the songs are similar! the audience really helps
<br>or hinders in setting moods! sometimes 'we' may forget that our girls
are only human and it is amazing that their enthusiam never
<br>dies day after day after tour after tour! they are as relentless and
passionate at the first show of a leg as they are at the last!! i
<br>know most bands tour, but very few as frequently as the girls so! btwn
all their activism, being a part of other tours, showing up
<br>at protests, doing interviews, etc, its amazing they can even get up
the next day!!
<p>btw, i met someone in atlanta (on my way to  decator, ga for the
wedding of one of my best friends and her gf!!) who said
<br>emily owns, besides the restaurant, a store where you can buy recycled
goods or sumtin?? anyone know anything about this??
<br>please tell!! :)
<p>ok, here is the random news bit! ppl just kill me! im tellin ya, fear
makes ppl do very interesting things!  here it is!
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hawaii ad: concern about gay symbol played role in change</b><b></b>
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logo of the school's football team. hawaii officials announced</b>
<br><b>             
wednesday that they were changing the team's nickname from the</b>
<br><b>             
rainbow warriors to, simply, the warriors, and replacing the</b>
<br><b>             
77-year-old rainbow logo. athletic director hugh yoshida then</b>
<br><b>             
admitted that the decision stemmed partly from concerns about how</b>
<br><b>             
the rainbow has become a symbol of gay pride and acceptance.</b>
<br><b>             
"that logo really put a stigma on our program at times in regards</b>
<br><b>             
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<br><b>             
yoshida told kgmb 9 tv in honolulu. "some of the student athletes</b>
<br><b>             
had some feelings in regards to that." ken miller, co-chairman of</b>
<br><b>             
the gay and lesbian community center in honolulu, called the</b>
<br><b>             
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cara klein <cara.klein@interpath.net> on 31/07/2000 16:43:52

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>>emily owns, besides the restaurant, a store where you can buy recycled
>>goods or sumtin?? anyone know anything about this??
>>please tell!! :)


it's the common pond - http://www.thecommonpond.com - doesn't seem to be active
at the moment, but i was on it a couple of weeks ago.

fare thee well,
marion

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on mon, 31 july 2000, cara klein wrote:

> it's in the virginia/highlands area...it's pretty cool...a cute little store with soaps/lip balm/some dog stuff...can't remember what else is there....d:)

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the coolest thing is that you can take your dog in!  my gf and i were down
there and were about to talk about who got to go in first and who got to
stay with the dog when we noticed the sign on the door : "all creatures
great and small welcome".  it was the first time we had taken sparky in any
store other than a pet store.  it was so cool.  he even got a treat!  we
bought some wonderful soap there.  there's a picture of emily up behind the
counter.  if you're there, definitely check it out.  the whole neighborhood
is wonderful.  geez, now i'm wanting to move there again.  gotta keep
telling myself i couldn't stand the heat and humidity for weeks on end!!

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hey kind friends...

i had to let y'all know that i'm going to atlanta tomorrow! woohoo. of
course watershed is on my list and now common pond (thanks for mentioning
it, i would have been peeved if i missed it!). i'll also be at eddie's attic
on saturday to catch michelle malone's show. yay! so, if there are any
atlantians out there who would give this traveler some tips i"m open to
'em...

if any of you will be at the michelle show-- i"ll see you there!

:)
so-excited-i'm-turning-indigo-
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started to reminisce and i thought i'd sahre a little story with you-- my best friend and fellow ig fan, sarah, and i go to different colleges with very busy lives, so when we do get together each moment is precious b/c time is nothing but the enemy. anyhow we both re-scheduled our final exams <you might be obsessed.. :)> this june to see the girls in atl <which would have been the third time or so to see them in a month> anyhowwhen we got to chastain the first night we went to the backstage gate to see if we could catch a glimpse. the gaurd was a an older man named carry-- who was so kind. at first he was like, "you will not get backstage so don't even try!" we said, "no sir-- we don't want to bother you or the girls..we just wanted to see if we could see them. the last thing we want to do it get in anyone's way." so we chatted with him a bit about all the famous people he's met and what they are like. other fans started gathering around and we trying to bribe carrey with sex!
, money, drinks...you name it! he  had to call security and stuff b/c things were getting out of hand. sarah and i stood in awe of some of the things these people were doing. when things started to settle down we thanked carry for his time and went to our seats. the show was great-- we were about 20 rows back and some of the people behind us were a little obnixious...but hey! we were there! after the show sarah and i went to attempt to find our hotel room in the metropolis of atl so we pulled over to a gas station  to get directions-- it just so happened that the 99x van <the station who put on the concert> was there-- we asked if there was anything we could do for backstage passes...the put us in touch with there studio manager. he invited us up to the station. so here it is 1:30 am in downtown atl and sarah and i are looking for a radio station in hopes of some passes. we get there and he said that all the promotional items were given away the week before but he let us hang !
out and chill. we got to make the play lists and dedications on air with the dj's.  it was really cool-- we didn't walk away empty handed...we did get some free cds-- but no passes! :( saturday we ate at watershed before the concert and did some shopping. and when it was time to leave for the show we went to the store to get drinks for the cooler...we grabbed carry <the gate gaurd> a coke <ne beer-- he couldn't drink on the job! :)> b/c the heat was almost unbarable and we felt sorry for him having to sit at the gate all day. on our way into the concert...some one offered us 2 front row tickets for our tickets plus 20 dollars-- who could refuse!?!?! when we got inside, we stopped by the back gate to give carry his drink. he was so apprecitave! while we were walking away he said, "since the two of you have been so swwet and kind and didn't bother me about getting back stage, how about y'all come back after the show and i'll let you in." after the initial shock wore off we thank!
ed him and said we'd be back. we were some of the first people there so we were meandering around we ran into michelle malone-- we chatted with her a bit. she is soooo kind!! on to the concert: ohmigod!! we were right there!!! <some of em's family was sitting two tables down from us!> we were just feet from them...and let me tell you-- romeo and julite performed for you when you are just feet..inches even, away from amy is unbelieveable!! after the show...we raced to the gate!! carry let us in!it was like entering the gates of indigo heaven! while we were walking in we we saw a cowboy hat in the distance!! there was amy chatting with some friends. she smiled at us and included us in her conversation. she was in good spitits, joking about her bad hair day. i accidently bumped into someone and when i turned around to apologize...i was face to face with emily! ohmigod!! we also met one of russel carter's numerous assitants <i forgot her name> but she was really sweet. after about!
30 min. things started to get busy with all the fmily and friends and stuff so sarah and i slipped out. we didn't ask for autographs or anything b/c it was just enough to be there and share a few moments with goddesses. it was an unforgettable night!! i didn't realize how long i've rambled-- so sorry!! i just wanted to share! ya'll have a great day! take care--ashley

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date:         mon, 31 jul 2000 13:36:58 edt
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the setlist was already posted so i just wanted to
add that the audience really helped make this show
great.

i was standing about three rows back on emily's
side of the stage (i was standing next to the
woman blowing bubbles)! amy and emily are always
warned about how jaded l.a. audiences are, but
la ig fans have been very passionate at not only
this show but at the wiltern last year as well.

amy even said she couldn't believe they had two
good audiences in a row. emily joked that they
had a "laid back" audience this time and then she
smirked after she said it to be ironic!

emily also had to sparkles on her face for this
show for some reason. it looked cute.

overall, i would say this performance rates with
the greek theatre show from june of '91 as one
of the best i've ever seen. the songs sounded great
and the playing was very spirited! i would love a
boot as soon as one becomes available on cd!!

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date:         mon, 31 jul 2000 13:23:30 -0500
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will the person who offerred to print up bumperstickers free of charge
at their workplace please email me privately?
(i seem to have misplaced or deleted your email on accident.)  i'm ready
to get  things printed.

thanks, and please excuse me for souding like a doofus.

peace
barb

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i love sister too it's so sensual, you know?

peace
barb

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date:         mon, 31 jul 2000 10:38:38 -0400
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and my birthday is august 11!

hooray for me!  send ig paraphenelia!


chris ii

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date:         mon, 31 jul 2000 12:08:14 -0700
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> and my birthday is august 11! hooray for me!  send
ig paraphenelia!<


um...mine's the 17th!!!!

elisanne, who's singing happy birthday to all us
leo's!!!


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a quick question -

several months ago i sent a bunch of blanks to whoever was burning the
b-sides discs, as well as the wrek and la night discs and i haven't
received word since. i'd just like to check that this person actually
received my cds.

if that sounds like you, can you email me and let me know? if they
never got there, i'll send more!

thanks -
amy

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hey-- someone said they had some info on the river stages 2000 boot and i lost you address-- please e-mail me back if this is you! thanks so much!! --ashley

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hey - this is nigc but i don't care... can someone please please go to this
and tape it?? i'd kill for a barbara kessler boot dammit....

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jennifer kimball and barbara kessler play a
****free show tomorrow in somerville!!****

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tuesday, august 1
johnny d's
17 holland st.
davis sq./somerville
617-776-2004
8:30pm

jennifer and her band: marc shulman,
mike rivard, dave mattacks
barbara kessler and her band: phil antoniades,
shecky, jeff st.pierre, thomas juliano
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hi all... 'tis a cool and rainy morning here in somerville. most unsummery.
but the long, lovely summer days i have spent on the vineyard this june and
july as well as my last trip out to mile-high albuquerque and fanta se more
than make up for that feeling. extremely gorgeous out there. just a short
email to let you know about this show.


the deal tomorrow is that fishman transducers, the company which makes most
of the gear that barbara and i use, is sponsoring the evening. (in fact,
first tuesday of every month this year they are putting on these free shows
with artists who use fishman gear). thank you fishpeople.

happy summer,
jennifer
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there is also a show coming up in ga that is barbara, michelle malone,
caroline aiken and a few other songwriters ....this is the date:
sunday, august 13th
eddie's attic, 515 b north mcdonough, decatur ga
404-377-4976
solo-songwriter showcase night hosted by kristen hall also including
michelle
malone, caroline aiken, kristian bush, matthew kahler, sam shaber and
possibly others


i'll basically trade four ig boots for any barbara kessler boots so please go
and please tape!!!
lisa

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hiya,

lisa r. wrote :

>
>on a nigc note, this was in my mail from michelle malone:
><<everyone is now invited to record any and all of my shows...
>and feel free to trade them with friends...just please don't sell them :)
>...send me the good ones!>>

hmm - could this be a the starts of a michelle malone live album? that
would be very cool.

just thinking about the vonda song : it sounds like it could be "maryland",
which is an absolutely gorgeous song. another vonda / ig thing : when i
went to see vonda in concert a couple of months back, she played cons
before the concert started : that just put me in a happy mood right off the
bat... :)

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hey gang -

do ya'll get this? cause i totally have it today. compounded by my best
friends and roommate completely making fun of me on saturday night and
all day sunday for being so into these concerts. that's a real downer.

what i'm wondering is if anyone else goes through the same sort of
thing? cause ig concerts are, for me at least, this happy little world
where the people are safe, and kind, and friendly, and probably the
only place i go on a regular basis where i feel entirely in my element.

i just did a perhaps not-so-smart thing and emailed my crappy friends
(from saturday) and reamed them out for everything.

i'm also not so thrilled with my roommate, who's known me since i was
two, and who i've been out to for 2 years, for complainign on sunday
morning, "oh great, i have to be surrounded by a bunch of lesbians." i
mean, it was probably meant as a joke, but i am always surrounded by a
"bunch of straight people." grrr. and we always have to go to straight
clubs, parties and bars cause she doesn't want to be hit on.

ok, i'm done venting. i just had to share so i have some hope of
getting back to work and succeeding at something this afternoon. i'm
just having one of those afternoons when i'm staring at my computer
monitor, crying silently, and praying that no one has any reason to
come back to my little corner cubicle.

love,
amy

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"the truth about jane" premieres on lifetime next monday at 9 p.m.....it's
about a mother who has to deal with finding out her daughter is
gay.....looks so good....

annamarie murray

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