lifeblood: listlogs: 2000-08d


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date:         mon, 21 aug 2000 19:45:38 -0600
reply-to:     garian <vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu>
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subject:      cold beer promo; k.d. lang fans
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hey all,

i have the cold beer promo and i am willing to make (cassette) copies for
the first five people who email me.

also, i'd like to hear from any serious k.d. lang fans on the list.

:)

g.

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date:         mon, 21 aug 2000 20:47:21 +0000
reply-to:     chee hill <cheebug@juno.com>
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hey sparkie!

is that really someone else's song?  "weakness in me"?  i did not know
that!  i thought it was an original amy song.  it's funny b/c i love that
song so much that i put it on an amy compilation tape (don't we all have
those? -- amy compilation tapes.....ooh, i've been thinking about making
an emily tape lately), but amy didn't even write the dang thing!

speaking of emily:  i was reading a good book last night _ecology of my
cracker childhood_, and i was listening to em's song "soon to be nothing"
over and over again...couldn't get it off of the repeat button!  one
thing that hit me was that emily is so full of great thoughts that relate
to the natural world.  i wish i could talk to her about nature, like what
she grows in her garden, what her favorite plant is, what she uses on
pesty weeds, whether she really believes some plants are "weeds," what
her favorite kind of ecosystem is (a tundra, a deciduous forest, a
desert, a rainforest, or the ocean).  she seems to me to be probably one
of the most understated naturalists in the world today.  i wish she'd
write a novel or two about nature.  "soon to be nothing" seems really  a
tribute to the cicada song.  what was it about the singing cicada?  just
after they sing, they metamorphose into adults?  emily sings about the
cicadas.  have you guys really listened to "soon to be nothing" on the
_social_ cd?  take it out and listen to it again!  you can hear the
mambas (is that what that percussion instrument is? that looks like a
gord with beads in it?) acting like the cicadas.  right around 2:43 and
especially at 3:10 of the song you see that she really needs the cicadas
song to bring her out of the shell.  how beautiful!  i swear it's funny
how my appreciation for emily waxes and wanes.  i've always loved amy's
stuff, but emily really takes my breath away.

". . . .deep behind my face is a safer place,
but the gears are hitched tight to the gate
it's a daily grind waiting to unwind
'til i hear that click that unlocks my fate

(((((((clicking like the song of cicadas enter here at 3:10)))))))

this is brought to you from chee who is forever in love with nature

-chee
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date:         mon, 21 aug 2000 22:21:00 -0500
reply-to:     barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net>
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i'm getting a lot of requests to see tara's a+e=ig. it's already been
posted to the list.
so now  all you need to do is click on  the
subject: fwd re: bumpuhstickahs.

it is dated 8/20.

i still do not have a price yet, i'm waiting to hear from  someone i
contacted today. stay tuned.

peace
barb

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 05:35:42 +0200
reply-to:     "i am 32 flavors and then some..." <tisara@www.webworqs.com>
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first off, because leos need as much recognition as they can get - belated
hippo birdies to ms. carrie knepp, who celebrated a birthday just
yesterday (the 20th of august)!  hope it was great girle!!!!

to those of us! for this week...

august 22 (74)- audra
tisara@www.webworqs.com
"i could go crazy on a night like tonight
when summer's beginning to give up her fight
and every thought's a possibility
and voices are heard but nothing's seen
why do you spend this time with me
maybe an equal mystery." - mystery

august 24 ('79)
arjuna greist <agreist@calvin.pitzer.edu>
"are you on fire, from the years? what would you give for your kid fears?"

august 27, 1980
carrie <carrie827@yahoo.com>
"every thought's a possibility" -es


everyone keep your fingers crossed - someone gave me their nasty germs and
i really don't want to spend my entire b-day sick *bleh* so here's hoping
a big ole dose of drugs and some sleep will help :)

peace and love to you all...
*celebrates her 26th with some pillows, tissues and a trash can to frow
dem in* *icks*

always bge,
audra


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date:         mon, 21 aug 2000 23:35:32 edt
reply-to:     indigokat@aol.com
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in a message dated 8/21/00 11:29:23 pm eastern daylight time,
ritesofpassage9@webtv.net writes:

<< so now  all you need to do is click on  the
subject: fwd re: bumpuhstickahs.

it is dated 8/20.
  >>


hi  i wasnt able to view tara's design as  your posting came through only in
html.   were other people able to view it??

indi

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date:         mon, 21 aug 2000 20:55:09 -0700
reply-to:     wherever <wherever@primenet.com>
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at 11:35 am 8/21/2000 -0400, indigokare@aol.com wrote:
>i would have to say, i second darius' comments about r&j.  you *have* to
>actually listen to mark's voice on the original.  this is not to say that i
>don't like amy's version, but again, it's simply not my favorite cover.  in
>fact, i could definately do without seeing it live at an ig show.  this is
>not a diss on amy or on the indigo girls or anything.  mark originanlly wrote
>the song, and when he wrote it, he did it with his voice in mind, not amy's.

i wonder if it's a function of which version you heard first. i heard amy's
version first, and it was one of my favorite ig songs - for the longest time
i didn't even know it was a cover! i loved hearing it live as well - it was
just
amy alone in the spotlight, giving a performance that took my breath away.
it's always been a love it or hate it song for everyone i've ever known that
listens to ig - amy took it in a pretty extreme direction; knopfler's rendition
is much more laid back. i have to say i like amy's better, and that it's
definitely my favorite cover, but i wonder if i'd heard the dire straits
version
first, i'd have thought otherwise.   i'm grateful to knopfler for penning
the tune,
but amy breathed a soul and a passion into it that hadn't been there before.
she just kills me every time with "when we made love you used to cry/i'm
gonna love you like the stars above, gonna love you till i die" and especially
the way she sings that last part "you and me babe, how about it?". perhaps
it's whether you prefer r & j as a slow song of regret and resignation or an
aching howl of longing and despair.

>as far as my favorite covers, tangeled up in blue and wild wild party at the
>loquat tree (hehe, right, becky?  ;-) )

tangled up in blue is *great*. i'd love to see them do it live. when i saw
them on the '98 tour they did a great rendition of the violent femmes
"blister in the sun" (i've seen live versions of it on napster) and pink
floyd's wish you were here (if anyone has a copy of them doing that,
let me know!). emily's version of joni mitchell's "river" off of 1200 curfews
is very sweet.


jenna
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date:         mon, 21 aug 2000 20:58:01 -0700
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at 08:08 am 8/21/2000 -0500, kovacs, mirinda wrote:
>oh, and friday i was shopping our local wal-mart and heard "peace tonight"
>on the loudspeakers there.  that was exciting for me too!

that's funny, i was just listening to cons tonight and thinking how
peace tonight had a radio-friendly feel to it (maybe that's why it's one
of my least favorites on that album; of the emily songs, i vastly prefer
soon to be nothing, trouble, or philosophy of loss). though i would
have been totally exciting for me to hear the ig in the store too. :) not
something you hear every day.


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date:         mon, 21 aug 2000 23:56:51 -0500
reply-to:     barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net>
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subject:      direct url f/tara's bumper design
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here's a direct url  to view tara's design.

see if this works for ya. http://www.geocities.com/tara8595/aeig.jpg

barb

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 00:01:57 -0500
reply-to:     "lisa m. schreihart" <lschreihart@juno.com>
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hi y'all,

it's been hectic as heck ever since i got back from michigan,
so i didn't have a chance to post a review or setlist.  julie had
a very nice review.  i enjoyed reading it.  i do remember her being
the russian representative for the opening ceremony.  way
to go, julie!

i read all the past digests and didn't see a setlist posted by
anyone, so i'll post it now.  i recall julie saying she was too
caught up in the moment to write it down.  i totally understand.
amyray, here it is:

michigan womyn's music fest - 8/13/00 ig setlist
(forgive any misspellings.  it's late.)

1. hammer and a nail
2. ozilene
3. soon be to nothing
4. jonas and ezekial
5. get out the map
6. shed your skin w/ ulali
7. ghost
8. gone again
9. galileo
10. go
11. our purpose here, ferron w/ emily (ferron's song)
12. closer to fine w/ ferron
13. kid fears (encore)

really interesting setlist, i'd say.

now, my 2 cents about the show...and hopefully i'll say
different stuff than the other listees who posted reviews and
thoughts......

i think this year's ig show was ten times better than two years
ago.  they were just so relaxed and playful..nearly wistful...this
year.  i think they finally got the michigan bug.  i scribbled little
notes on the front of a raffle ticket, and i'm having a heck of a
time making them out, but i think julie hit on most of the
important observations anyway.  i do think that ig were the
most sharing and open when they talked to the crowd than
i've ever heard them be in the last 16 shows i've seen in the last
3 1/2 years.  i tell you, they seemed extremely at home.
they seemed to exude humility and connectedness with the crowd....
i think they felt the sisterhood very strongly, and the crowd embraced
them just the same.   they were so very talkative, something i've
been missing as the concerts get bigger, the crowds get more
diverse (and oftentimes obnoxious), and the music gets louder.
but, at michigan this year, ig could've been playing an imtimate
house concert, and it probably would've felt nearly the same.

i know some people commented about how nice it was to hear
ferron play with amy and emily.  it is so nice because they seem to be
such good friends and seem so comfortable with each other.
they joked and kidded.  they were playful.  at one point, i think
emily or amy said something about ferron being so important
to them as a role model and friend as they were developing and growing.
ferron joked something about age, and said (not an exact quote)
to emily, "you were 2 when i was 30."  emily replied with a chuckle,
"yeah, but i'm not age-ist."  you might have had to be there to get
a laugh out of that one, but it was a cute play on words.

the sound was great in that crisp michigan air.  the girls' voices
were exceptional.  harmonies were right on, and the goddesses
were with them.  (heh heh....had to bring that in at least once.  ;-)

i did see amy only once during the rest of the fest.  i missed her
spot with the butchies.  i was dragging later in the week and
couldn't make it through all the night concerts that night.  but i
was lucky enough to see that amy was enjoying melissa ferrick's
set from the restricted-access seating area (where all the backstage
people catch the show from).  she was sitting with someone (a
friend?), writing in a notebook.  she appeared really relaxed there
too.  it was nice to see.  i'm very glad for amy that she could stick
around and enjoy the rest of the festival.  emily didn't stay, i don't
think,
from what i could tell.  i think that's why the girls cancelled their
autograph session at the goldenrod booth...which was an obvious
bummer to the crowd when that was announced.

well, that's it.  i wanted to post this much sooner after i got back, but

i think i'm still in the recovery phase.  i'm gettin' there.....soon to
be....
back to normal (whatever that is).

'night y'all.  thanks for reading!

lisa s. (not d.)

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 01:48:07 edt
reply-to:     oyster toadfish <chickenwomyn@hotmail.com>
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gordon  matthew sumner

i'm drawing a blank as to stings real name - anyone know?  it's going to
drive me crazy all day.


t-shirt!

i have a medium swinging girl t-shirt for sale, never been worn...
sold for $25....

for whatever reason, when i asked for a xl, the gave me a med......


ergh
carol

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 01:21:09 -0500
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to view all three designs at once you also have the option of visiting
my website. i just put  some links up.   take care. untili know
more....that's all.now...i promise.

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 04:28:38 edt
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in a message dated 8/21/00 10:01:59 am pacific daylight time,
tomboy1969@cswebmail.com writes:

> i personally think their best covers are mona lisas & mad hatters & don't
> fear the reaper...d:)
someone please please tell me where i can get don't fear the reaper done by
indigo girls!
thank you in advance.
pant pant.

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in a message dated 8/22/00 12:29:10 am pacific daylight time,
wherever@primenet.com writes:

> tangled up in blue is *great*. i'd love to see them do it live. when i saw
>  them on the '98 tour they did a great rendition of the violent femmes
>  "blister in the sun" (i've seen live versions of it on napster) and pink
>  floyd's wish you were here (if anyone has a copy of them doing that,
>  let me know!).
the best version of tuib i have ever heard was a few weeks ago in san
diego...both voices, sound quality, and all instruments sounded better than i
had ever heard.  hey, if you find wish you were here , let me know please!!!!
thanks,
pax
vesper

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 07:07:58 edt
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does anyone else have an interest in some way in any of these things like
cutting, bipolar, depression, etc.  and also a strong emotional connection to
the music of indigo girls? just wondering.  i discussed it a bit with amy at
a signing once when she noticed some unusual features on my arms, if y'all
know what i mean. sorry if this is a bad thing to post, someone let me know
if it is...
--vesper

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 09:19:20 edt
reply-to:     carrie knepp <ig4me@hotmail.com>
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ok folks...i have about all the blanks and postage ones i can handle for
now...if someone who is getting a boot from me wants to offer it again as
well that is fine...i am still looking for these shows though, and would
love to trade...
zembo temple 9/16/97
dickinson college 4/26/98
tussey mountain 7/10/98
bucknell 4/8/00
i.c. light amp pittsburgh 8/11/00
i think i have someone for the bucknell boot(did you find it devin?) c'mon
guys...i know they have to be out there somewhere...and if that zembo temple
show wasnt booted then it is a cryin shame...
peace and love,
         carrie
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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 10:25:35 -0400
reply-to:     "mandy (just mandy)" <eburton@brynmawr.edu>
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        hey folksters -
        did anybody out there manage to get ahold of one of those snazzy
orange creamsicle summer tour shirts that they were selling toward the
beginning of the summer? i passed up the chance to buy one at the mann
center because i thought i'd be able to get one later on, but they were
long gone by ravinia - turns out the manufacturer stopped printing shirts
of whatever precise color it was that they were using, and so they just
discontinued the design.
        after this was explained to me, i bit the proverbial bullet and
bought one of the black go t-shirts, but i would be endlessly grateful to
anybody out there who'd be willing to swap me for a creamsicle shirt. my
go shirt is brand new, unworn, large (i think) - i'll trade for any size
creamsicle that's still in good condition. and i'll tape something for
you, too, if you want.
        thanks -
        mandy


                "oh, why don't you just drop your highfalutin airs!"
        jacob said angrily. "you can always die later. we've got more
        important things to do now."
                                        michael ende,
                                        the night of wishes

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 11:14:14 edt
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<< does anyone else have an interest in some way in any of these things like
cutting, bipolar, depression, etc.  and also a strong emotional connection to
the music of indigo girls? just wondering.  i discussed it a bit with amy at
a signing once when she noticed some unusual features on my arms, if y'all
know what i mean. sorry if this is a bad thing to post, someone let me know
if it is...
    no, it is not a bad thing to post. hopefully, you are in a place where
you don't have to do that now. but i for one hope that you never feel you
have to keep quiet about things on this list if you are hurting. for that
matter, no one should ever fear posting to this list.
deb

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 13:14:57 edt
reply-to:     indigokare@aol.com
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hey y'all!

i got the new dar album!  yah!  i decided not to pay $25 for the special
collectors one from the razor and tie website.  i'm currently unemployed and
since i plan to go to graduate school next year... hehe.  anyway, so i just
hav emy plain old copy of the green world.  :-)  it's pretty good.

secondly, someone gave me 3 kd lang flats thinking that i like her.  well, i
am not all that crazy about kd.  so i was thinking that maybe someone would
want to trade all three of them (i'd rather just send all 3 at once because i
haven't figured how i am going to mail them to keep them...well...flat yet)
for one ig boot.  is anyone interested?  if so, e-mail me.

finally, i am going to announce my newest newbie offer...let's see, i have
already offered color me gray, blue food, and tuesday's children.  i am
expecting to receive a bunch of b&p's for blue food within the next day or
so, so by the time i begin to receive b&p's for this next offer, i will be
pretty much done with blue food.  ok...here it goes.  i'll copy live at the
purple parrot (another early boot) for as many people who i can accomadate.
e-mail me soon if you want it (i usually get like 50 requests within the
first 10 mins, no joke!).  the tape is 90mins long.  if i can accomadate you,
i will send you detailed instructions as to what to send me.  if you don't
hear back from me, you didn't get in ontime.  to be honest, my copy isn't of
the greatest quality, but i haven't heard much better.  :-)  and of course, i
am always open for trades.  i can only take so many newbies, but trades are
always welcome.

ok...whew...that was a long e-mail.

:-) karen

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 17:23:08 gmt
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"does anyone else have an interest in some way in any of these things like
cutting, bipolar, depression, etc.  and also a strong emotional connection
to the music of indigo girls? "

as i thought about this.... my own previous problems with depression and
cutting derived from my sexual confusion.  also, i began listening to indigo
girls, at the time i didnt know of many other open lesbians in the media.
they were just something/someone to look up too.  my point is... and correct
if i'm wrong.  but i dont think there is a direct connection to depression
and indigo girls.  but i think there is a direct connection between sexual
confusion and depression.  i also think there is a direct connection between
homosexuality and indigo girls.

i'm not saying anything concrete.. just theories.  you know what i mean?
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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 12:38:35 -0500
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subject:      agree somewhat on connections
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where i differ would be =20
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homosexuality and indigo girls."

i guess i do agree somewhat with this portion however, i guess i wouldn't =
say it is the only connection that there is. i mean, saying this badly i =
am sure. i know several, many people who love the ig as much as i do and =
they are not homosexuals. in fact the person who introduced me to them was =
not homosexual, rip arlen, . i am an open lesbian in all aspects of my =
life. i do love the girls. but my being gay is not what drew me to them. =
conversly their being gay played no role in it either. i did not know they =
were gay for some time. i had a hunch kinda thing...but anyway...what drew =
me was their words, their passion and the music.=20

i get really upset and disappointed when friends and even my own family =
tell me i only like ig cause they are gay, the same with melissa, kd, they =
even say it of dar and lucy etc. i don't care what their sexuality is..it =
is their music and message i love.=20

there is a connection directly for some who turn to the girls for =
validation of their sexuality i guess. because in turn they may be looking =
for validation of themselves as a being...i guess it is most disappointing =
for me to see that we have to find validation for being who we are because =
so many do not acknowledge that we are valid as a human being because our =
personal settings are a bit different than their own.....

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 11:18:51 -0700
reply-to:     "cumberland, dana bgi sf" <dana.cumberland@barclaysglobal.com>
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i would have to agree with lori.  i didn't start listening to the girls
because i was a lesbian.  in fact, i have listened to them for quite a
number of years, and just recently came out as a lesbian.  i don't see any
direct connection between being gay and the girls.  there music makes you
think about life......and their words are so good!!

dana

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where i differ would be
" .  i also think there is a direct connection between
homosexuality and indigo girls."

i guess i do agree somewhat with this portion however, i guess i wouldn't
say it is the only connection that there is. i mean, saying this badly i am
sure. i know several, many people who love the ig as much as i do and they
are not homosexuals. in fact the person who introduced me to them was not
homosexual, rip arlen, . i am an open lesbian in all aspects of my life. i
do love the girls. but my being gay is not what drew me to them. conversly
their being gay played no role in it either. i did not know they were gay
for some time. i had a hunch kinda thing...but anyway...what drew me was
their words, their passion and the music.

i get really upset and disappointed when friends and even my own family tell
me i only like ig cause they are gay, the same with melissa, kd, they even
say it of dar and lucy etc. i don't care what their sexuality is..it is
their music and message i love.

there is a connection directly for some who turn to the girls for validation
of their sexuality i guess. because in turn they may be looking for
validation of themselves as a being...i guess it is most disappointing for
me to see that we have to find validation for being who we are because so
many do not acknowledge that we are valid as a human being because our
personal settings are a bit different than their own.....

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 20:23:39 +0200
reply-to:     danny verheezen-reichert <danny.verheezen@pandora.be>
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from:         danny verheezen-reichert <danny.verheezen@pandora.be>
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since the movie 6 days,7 nights was mentioned on the list lately,there is a
nice promo t-shirt for sale on ebay from the movie.
take a lookie...
:)

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=416006580

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as a heterosexual who has been listening to the girls for about 6 or 7
years, i must say that i don't think there is a direct connection between
being gay and liking the girls. one thing i've noticed (as i have become
friends with more and more lesbians over the years) is that lesbians tend to
be more self-confident and strong willed (i'm not stereotyping--i know
lesbians who aren't like this and straight girls who are), and i think that
amy and emily's music has that vibe to it, therefore kind of explaining the
draw.

just my .02

~megan (o:,'

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 14:41:28 -0400
reply-to:     cara klein <cara.klein@interpath.net>
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hey all! im gettin antsy waiting for that live video from our girls!!!!
i have no time these days to post much, but i did want to post this for
those of you that will have access to the new sundance channel on tv.
here is a little tid bit on it!! have a great day!!!

cara

sundance channel to focus on music

           new york (billboard) - the sundance channel will have its
eyes and ears on music for the
           month of september, during which time it will air a host of
music documentaries on the likes of
           fugazi ("instrument"), radiohead ("meeting people is easy"),
sophie b. hawkins ("the cream
           will rise"), the rolling stones ("gimme shelter," currently
in limited theatrical re-release), bob
           dylan ("don't look back"), electronic music ("better living
through circuitry") and the punk/new
           wave explosion ("urgh! a music war). in addition, the network
has created four hour-long
           installments of music videos and short films from artists
such as r.e.m., patti smith, and sonic
           youth and directors such as spike jonze and hal hartley. the
series will air at 8 p.m. et each
           sunday night in september.

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 16:05:32 -0400
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hey all:

well i just returned from p-town--the best birthday ever, thanks to
my good friends (the new york instigators) and of course, my husband.
thanks to all of you kind friend who emailed me with b-day greatings.

now the time has come for me to decide on whether or not to repeat
my big event of last year and make another excursion to atlanta for
the 10/28 show.  since i've been gone for the past 2 weeks, i havn't
really been able to read all my emails.

can some give me some info on that show.  i know it's free, but is
it a complete show or is it just a 10 minute thing like earth day in d.c.?
it looks like that's it for a while, so since they won't be coming back east
any time soon, i want to get one more show in before i go into my little
depression.  any info you can give me would be great.

cathy

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date:         tue, 22 aug 2000 16:33:35 edt
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i need some good web sights with downloadable pics of a and e.
anyone?

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deb wrote:

i for one hope that you never feel you
have to keep quiet about things on this list if you are hurting. for that
matter, no one should ever fear posting to this list.


well, here's the thing.  call me an old crabby chick, but i don't think this list is the place for all sorts of stuff that's been posted.  if you need help with something, fine, bring it up, and people can email you.  i bemoan the fact that i haven't read very much of this list of late, because i can't always tell from the subject lines what's ig related and what's not, and masses of it is not.  if you have something gay related, post it on a gay listserv or newsgroup (yes, i'm a dyke, i read those lists, and that's where that stuff belongs.)  if you have something political to say, post it to a political listserv or newsgroup.  etcetera.  the only thing we all have in common here is that we are fans of the indigo girls, and this list is to talk about that.  if i'm not mistaken the egroups list was created to address that problem specifically- i.e. non ig talk that some people wanted to share.

maybe the time has come for me to move on, and yes,i do use my delete key very well.  it's just that i do still want to know about the indigo girls, and i don't think it should be only the list owner's job to keep the list ontopic.

thanks,
alison

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well, all i really know about myself, and the girls, is that i didn't
know they were lesbians
until i'd been into them for three years!

i don't know really what my orientation is, i know that when i go to
amazon.com for example that if i look up indigo girls, not only will i
get a list of what's available through them, i will also get refferrals
for melissa etheridge, sara maclachlan, ani defranco, (maybe even)
ferron, and melissa ferrick.

now, don't get me wrong, i have been to amazon.com to get a clue as to
what's out there,  but i have no credit cards or debit cards.
so i do not buy from them  whatsoever.
and i'm not saying that there is direct connection between the girls and
lesbians. i am saying however, that they do get stereotyped by the
corporate music business.

and i cringe at that, because i like doing my own searches, without
businesses assuming that if i like indigo girls, i will like joan baez,
ani, and melissa as well. i take that as being told what kind of music i
like. customers like us know who we like and who we don't.

i think it may be that the girls are so out there,
and perhaps they speak things that others would like to say and can't.
and that's why they have such a strong following. gay or straight.

peace
barb


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on tue, 22 aug 2000, barbara bordner wrote:

> well, all i really know about myself, and the girls, is that i didn't
> know they were lesbians
> until i'd been into them for three years!
>
> i don't know really what my orientation is, i know that when i go to
> amazon.com for example that if i look up indigo girls, not only will i
> get a list of what's available through them, i will also get refferrals
> for melissa etheridge, sara maclachlan, ani defranco, (maybe even)
> ferron, and melissa ferrick.
>
> now, don't get me wrong, i have been to amazon.com to get a clue as to
> what's out there,  but i have no credit cards or debit cards.
> so i do not buy from them  whatsoever.
> and i'm not saying that there is direct connection between the girls and
> lesbians. i am saying however, that they do get stereotyped by the
> corporate music business.
>
> and i cringe at that, because i like doing my own searches, without
> businesses assuming that if i like indigo girls, i will like joan baez,
> ani, and melissa as well. i take that as being told what kind of music i
> like. customers like us know who we like and who we don't.


just as a fyi, that engine mainly works by seeign what other people
who bought ig stuff bought.  the  idea is that if half of the people
who bought reverse 1 live (in my happy little dream world where you
could buy that) also bought some ani, that would come up on the
search.  it's not amazon stereotyping the fans in this case.


as for the band, well i am a straight male and i've liked them since
self titled came out.  i didn't even know they were lesbians for 6 or
7 years or whenever it was that i was hanging out on #indigo-girls all
the time.  so i don't associate the two at all really.


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opihf@aol.com wrote:
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>. . .   call me an old crabby chick

you're a crabby old chick.

really, get over it.

elaine

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in a message dated 8/22/00 10:58:23 am hawaiian standard time, opihf@aol.com
writes:

<< call me an old crabby chick, but i don't think this list is the place for
all sorts of stuff that's been posted. >>

i kind of agree...

~kim

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when i said that there was a direct connection between ig and homosexuality
i only meant that those that are homosexual tend to look for other
homosexuals to feel less alone, or to feel that what/who they are is
"alright" i realize str8 people listen to ig.

i also realize that not everonye that is gay has troubles with depression,
or versa vice.


just wanted to clear that up.
i won't post anymore, but feel free to e-mail me privately, i must admit
this conversation intrigues me.
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i thought the discussion on depression thread was excellent - i can
honestly say, after my best friend died in '94 (and this list had a pretty
big role in the whole timing of when i found out - i totally virtually
emptied my life out for hundreds of intimate strangers when that happened.

was it something i'd do in this climate, with this list make up - no -
because what happened then was magic, really.

i remember it was the pre tour of so - and wrote something to the effect of
"wouldn't it be great if they dedicated ghost to bill or just played it."

an anonymous listee took it upon themselves to write a letter to a&e, have a
friend working security pass the letter to them, while tuning for ghost,
emily deadicated it to my friend, bill, she actually said it before the
song.

after the show i thanked them both - they both seemed really intent on
knowing about him, that whole conversation was not from a fan to an artist -
it was human being to human being. fyi - the show is 4-22-94 - it is
circulating quite widely.

but that being said, i guess it is okay to be a gay or lesbian ig fan, but
not a mentally ill one? what kind of values are you supporting - fine -
let's not talk about it - it is all in their head - who cares if they become
isolated and screwed up, we cant have our pretty little community scrouged
by that. and you know, why do we allow people with physical disabilities to
go to concerts either - they aren't the biggest fans.

if you need to exclude hate or bigotry or violence - i agree - there is no
place for that on this list. but stating view points that "maybe i'm crabby"
isn't enough, look at gay youth suicide rates, look at how we treat minority
youth, youth with disabilities, look at the facts - this post clearly is
saying that we need to ignore it.

i'm sorry, given the experiences and education i have - i am not going to
allow you to ignore it - i would be more likely to shove it in your face and
make you feel uncomfortable - if that changes your perspective - it isnt a
bad thing.

i mean - i've lost friends to suicide - yeah - it was their own issue - but
why did they get that lost from society.

you are much worse than crabby.

let the flames begin - it will not phase me
sorry for posting somewhat off topic - i felt the need to defend the list as
a safe place.

mike reynolds
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ok.. i have a question about cmg... i have a tape of it and this is the track
listing:

scared to say we're friends,
nashville,
fallin' star,
carry me away,
anyway i love you (sweet gypsy),
clues to you,
always be there,
color me grey,
free through eternity,
passin' time,
losin' touch,
erase the pain,
anyone but myself

this is the listing at lifeblood:
1. just passing time
2. no way out
3. losing touch
4. sweet gypsy
5. the distance remains the same
6. i'll be there
7. slow moving sea
8. thursday afternoon

now..aside from the fact that my tape has more songs - all of the songs on
the one from lifeblood are on my tape (just labeled as different songs) ---
so does anyone have an original cmg?  do most people have the bootleg
resembling lifeblood's list or mine??

just curious :p
lisa

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vesper, i don't think it is a bad thing to post this here at all.  after all, many of us have been through tough times and often people use music to pull themselves through those times.  i know many people who look upon amy's "blood and fire" as the ultimate song to show that there is empowerment to be had and that you can pull through.   i can't tell you the number of times i've cried at hearing "ghost" because it so echoes my own experience but there isn't complete dispair in it.  or garth brooks "the dance"...because it reminds me of my own thoughts at losing someone and yet being able to recognize the good that came out of that particular dance with disaster.

i have to believe that amy and emily understand that connection and that's one of the reasons that they write such powerful songs.  certainly, amy knows the power of song...she wrote "go"...and emily is no different.  she feels it every time she hears the crowd sing "galileo" to her.

as far as cutting, or intentional injury is concerned, it a difficult subject to deal with for many people.  it sure is difficult for me to deal with and i have done it since the time i was very young.  i don't cut, but my upper arms are a mass of scars of my own doing.  scars that will never be seen...scars that almost kept me from massage school - a dream i had for years.  hell, it's difficult for me to not delate this entire paragraph.

i don't think it's bad to post this here.  maybe the more people who talk about it, the less taboo it will be and then the more it can be understood.

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<p>vesper, i don't think it is a bad thing to post this here at all.  after all, many of us have been through tough times and often people use music to pull themselves through those times.  i know many people who look upon amy's "blood and fire" as the ultimate song to show that there is empowerment to be had and that you can pull through.   i can't tell you the number of times i've cried at hearing "ghost" because it so echoes my own experience but there isn't complete dispair in it.  or garth brooks "the dance"...because it reminds me of my own thoughts at losing someone and yet being able to recognize the good that came out of that particular dance with disaster.<br><br>i have to believe that amy and emily understand that connection and that's one of the reasons that they write such powerful songs.  certainly, amy knows the power of song...she wrote "go"...and emily is no different.  she feels it every time she hears the crowd sing "galileo" to her.<br><br>as far as cutting, or intentional injury is concerned, it a difficult subject to deal with for many people.  it sure is difficult for me to deal with and i have done it since the time i was very young.  i don't cut, but my upper arms are a mass of scars of my own doing.  scars that will never be seen...scars that almost kept me from massage school - a dream i had for years.  hell, it's difficult for me to not delate this entire paragraph.<br><br>i don't think it's bad to post this here.  maybe the more people who talk about it, the less taboo it will be and then the more it can be understood.</p>
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  hear hear!!  elisanne, that was very well said.  it took alot of guts that
i know i don't have.  i was goning to post on this topic but after reading
your post i know that i couldn't ever say it was well as you. thanks.

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how long till my soul gets it right?"
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hey folks,

been meaning to post about this for a few days... hopefully
this isn't old news, but i found out last week that
"watershed" was released on dvd in australia last year.
it's got the video yearbook on it as well (same as the us
version).  according to the sticker on the box, you need
an ntsc-compatible player to play it, so it may just be
a region 1 import from the us.  there was no region info on
the box and no "made in australia" marking, so who knows.
it does play on my flatmate's supposedly multizone player
anyway...

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hey y'all,

i can still accomadate a few more people for my offer for "purple parrot."  i
didn't get nearly as many requests as usual.  :-)  if you're still
interested, e-mail me soon so you can get in on it.

:-) karen

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hi folks,

remember, once again, this list is a forum dedicated to the discussion
of the indigo girls and their music.

occassionally nigc threads show up and while this in itself is not a bad
thing, continued discussion of nigc threads on-list should be avoided.

that said, please take the following discussions and the offshoots to
other forums:

ot cutting/depression/etc.
agree somewhat on connections


thank you.

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i too, took great comfort in their music after my 16 year old brother
died...and i think that this is the best forum to talk about this...hence
the reason this is a fan-based list...if you are not interested in this type
of discussion you could always subscribe to the news-only version of the
list?! just my $.02
peace and love,
         carrie
who if it werent for amy and emily, would not be posting this today because
she would be in a grave...

p.s. sorry to mike who got this privately by accident...sorry!!!!!!
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thanks mike and carrie i agree with you 100%
it just goes to show it is true that 1 in 4 people either suffer from
mental illness themselve (such as myself) and/or know someone who does.
there is a stigma, and it needs to be stopped , people with mental
illnesses suffer already. i suffered with it in silence  for years,i
don't need a society that doesn't want me around, because they are
afraid. i don't need it here either.

peace,
barb

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with all due respect to the list owners, i would venture an opinion that
these discussions are perhaps the most important ig content - i know this
list has changed a great many lives merely by offering a forum, whether
intended or not, for people dealing with various life issues to receive help
and to find a needed sense of community.....

this list, and the people on it, have changed many lives for the better.
what better tribute could we possibly give to the two wonderful women who
inspire us all????

peace,
tim

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my newest newbie (hehe, that sounds funny) offer is closed.  if you heard
back from me, you know what to do.  if not, i'm sorry.  i'll probably do
another boot offer next week!

:-) karen

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does anyone have the words to this song?  here's what i think is being
said in the chorus (if you can call it a chorus)

"yanni's winner, yani's winner
oh lucy stone's gonna rip the veil
give the boys what they deserve
when the girls have lost their nerve

woohoo, oooooh, uh ooh uh ooh uh ooh
woohoo, ooooooh, uh ooh uh ooh uh ooh

testing one, two, three in the market place,
but it's a demographic's place disgrace
and stupid secret white boy hand shake
that we'll never be a part of"

i know it's not a song about yanni, but what else goes there?  no matter
how much i listen to that song, i can't figure it out.

consequently, i play this song and sing my heart out when i need to.  i
find that ig music soothes me.  i've been told that i will end up going
to therapy later in life b/c of my tragic childhood.  while i can say
that i have never cut myself, i have pushed myself too hard when running.
and i do tend to have friends who have had "episodes."   i have never
had an episode.  i certainly can see why people sometimes do, though.
also, since this subject was started and stopped even before i had time
to partake, i want to say something about this connection between being
gay and liking ig music.  3 days ago, my sister and i were talking about
something totally obscure.  all the sudden she told me about ellen d. and
anne h.  i asked her why she thought she had to tell me about that.  she
said, "well, you like them (pointed to an ig tape in my truck like it was
radiation or something taboo)"  this obviuosly set me off on fire.  i
told her that i don't give a flip about ellen and anne, and i like ig bc
of their music and politics; not b/c they're gay.  this stereotype is my
biggest pet peave!!!!!  i can write about this all night if i have to.
my mom always asks me about my music.  she always asks why i don't like
billy joel anymore, when am i going to use my good looks to get a
boyfriend.  she'd freak if she knew the real me, so to spare her for
right now i haven't told her about my closest friends.  i have only two
close gay friends.  both of them do not like ig's music at all.  1.  they
say they're too folksy and melodic.  2.  they say that they're too
feminine (this is of course when i point out amy)  3.  they are worried
about getting beat up, so taking time to listen to some ig is not on
their list of things to do.  4.  they do not get their lyrics  5.
they're too busy smoking pot and listening pink floyd and hole, and oh,
did i mention that they're too freakin' busy trying to not get beat up???
  please don't get me wrong; this is just what my redneck lesbo friends
do and have to do.  they call me tiffannie and think i'm weird for
listening to ig.  hell, we're all weird in rural georgia.  anyway, the
point is that i like ig music b/c it's fun, cerebral, and innocent.  one
thing's for sure, amy and emily are going to get to go to heaven.  oh
another thing:  my sister once asked me why i don't like melissa e.  it's
simple, she's not from the south, and her lyrics are dull to me.

naturally, chee

ps.  is amy really saying "lucy stoners don't need boners"?

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does anybody know how to get tickets for the show and
where it's going to be at??

is it open to just students??

thanks
tina  :)

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hey,

although my offer for blanks and postage is closed for now, i am always
willing to set up trades for purple parrot, blue food, color me grey,
tuesday's children or anything else i have.  i am currently looking for:
ravinia festival, 2000
eastern kentucky university, 2000
univ. of kentucky, 1998
nautica stage, 2000
or anything recent (not older than 1998) where they do "strange fire"

you can check out my list at:  http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/indigodar

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hey all,
for those of you who get the learning channel, stand and be counted part ii
will be reshown at 11 p.m. cst, which is right about now, and i just saw on
the old epic message board that amy and emily are included in like the last
45 minutes of the show...a clip of them playing a benefit and interview.
last night was part i of this music/activism documentary from david crosby,
which included some coverage of native american issues, an interview with
buffy saint marie and a clip of her doing a bit of bury my heart, which was
very interesting. i think a mention of the ig hte involvement would have
been fitting, but no dice.
michelle

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in a message dated 8/22/00 11:48:37 pm eastern daylight time,
unclwil@midwest.net writes:

<< hey all,
for those of you who get the learning channel, stand and be counted part ii
will be reshown at 11 p.m. cst, which is right about now, and i just saw on
the old epic message board that amy and emily are included in like the last
45 minutes of the show...a clip of them playing a benefit and interview.>>

it showed them playing closer to fine at the bridge school benefit.  amy had
shooooooort hair.     :)

<< last night was part i of this music/activism documentary from david crosby,
which included some coverage of native american issues, an interview with
buffy saint marie and a clip of her doing a bit of bury my heart, which was
very interesting. i think a mention of the ig hte involvement would have
been fitting, but no dice.>>

yeh i did not get it,  there were several areas where the girls should have
been included.....eg no nukes, honor the earth, and school of the americas.
they were also mentioned in a sentence with melissa etheridge, elton john,
and holly near about being gay activists.  i think out of all they have done
honor the earth is the number one cause.  the show was definitely overloaded
with phil collins, sting and arlo guthrie.

indi

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this was posted a while back...
although this person had trouble with the chorus too, so there's not a lot
of help there...anyway:

lucy stoners (amy ray)

we were talking of taking something
to try to put our finger on anything
to quantify the undoing
each little strip, it's just a lack of (?)
on the refridgerator down at the (?) club
there's little magnets of poetry
finding 100 different ways to say nothing

(chorus 1)
(?)
(?)
rolling stones ......(?)......
gave the boys what they deserve
but with the girls it lost its nerve

in a post-punk bar there's a dressing room wall
where the rock poet band will make its mark
a hundred different pictures of private parts
and some girl going down
and there's a faggot-bashing poetry
but the boys are just saying 'love me, please'
with every hate-filled phrase you just give it away
boys you give yourself away

(chorus 1 rpt)

distant 1-2-3 in the marketplace
it's a demographic case disgrace
stupid secret white boy handshake
that we'll never be part of
so when it's dj flow in the morning show
i give you 100 reasons to just say no
i said come on girls, let's go right now
oh girls, let's go right now

(chorus 2)
lucy stoners
don't like boners
ain't no man could ever own her
(?) she had the nerve
to give the girls what they deserve

(chorus 2 rpt)

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i dont think that talking about the connection between music and depression
is off topic at all.  music is often a cure for depression


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at 02:12 pm 8/22/2000 -0700, david steinberg wrote:
>  whenever it was that i was hanging out on #indigo-girls

what network is that channel on? efnet or dalnet or...?

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hey all --

i am looking to trade for cd-r's of the "early recordings" 4 cd set
and i have collected a few rare goodies which can be yours for burning
any of the four cd's!! the items are first come, first served and yes,
if you want more than one item you can burn more than one cd from the
set for me. you can even take all four if some kind soul is willing to
burn the whole set!! however, offers from folks that can also provide the
artwork too will take precedence over offers of just cd-r's. on to
the items...

- "strange fire" 1987 cassette on indigo records...yes it is original
and yes it has "high horse" plus the original mix/track order of the
album. it's not the vinyl (i wish), but it is the real deal with a
big foldout insert with all the lyrics including "high horse." very rare

of course, yadda yadda...

- "closer to fine"/"cold as ice" 1989 promo jukebox 7" on epic...only
appearance of any tracks from the indie ep on any epic release...mint
condition with epic logo sleeve!!

- "get together"/"finlandia" 1989 cassingle on epic...i believe this
was the only non-vinyl source of "finlandia"...somebody may correct
me if i'm wrong...it is original, however the cardsleeve is long gone.

- "come on now social" advance cd in yellow epic sleeve with sticker
cover...pre-release white cd with epic logos...someone at epic whited-
out the "e" in faye tucker" for some reason...also mint!!

so those are the four items...one item per cd...make an offer and
i'll sort through them and let you know what you got!! please send your
offers to me at the address below and not to the list.

feel free to forward this to any off-list ig fan that might be
interested...thanks, and good luck!!

will bryant
will@perfectsoundforever.com

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as requested, here are the lyrics for lucy stoner, as well as another one of
amy's new songs - laramie.

these were taken from the versions she sang at the charlotte daemon show,
5/20/00.

=)
lisa

*************************************************
lucy stoner

we were talking of ticket slump
and trying to put our finger on it
quantify the undoing
each little step is just the lack of press
the refrigerator down at the boys club
with it's little magnets of poetry
find 100 different ways to say blow me

jannie wenner, jannie wenner
rolling stone's most fearless leader
gave the boys what they deserve
and with the girls it lost its nerve
oooh whoo now ooooo oooh whoo now

every post punk bar
there's a dressing room wall
where the rock boy band will makes its mark
with 100 different pictures of private parts
and some girl going down
and there's a faggot bashing poetry
but the boys are just saying love me please
and every hate filled phrase
you just give it away
oh yeah you give yourself away

jannie wenner, jannie wenner
rolling stone's most fearless leader
gave the boys what they deserve
and with the girls it lost its nerve

whooo hooo now ooooooo whoo hooo now

yeah we're testing 1 2 3 in the marketplace
but it's the demographic-based disgrace
and stupid secret white boy handshake
that we'll never be a part of
so when it's deejay blowing the morning show
i give you 100 reasons to just say no
i say come on girls let's go right now
aw girls let's go right now

lucy stoners don't need boners
ain't no man could ever own her
gave the boys who had the nerve
she's going to give the girls what they deserve
lucy stoners don't need boners
ain't no man could ever own her
with the boys she had the nerve
to give the girls what they deserve

aw whoo hoo now ooooo whoo hoo


***********************************************
laramie

we hit snow on the road to laramie
we all heard about that mess
but that town ain't nothing different
than the rest

poor man do the bidding for the rich man
those rednecks were just doing what
the classic fuckers thinking
the tolerance it ain't acceptance
i know you wanted it to be
when you're out in laramie

hey all you jokers
hunting seasons over
hey coalition
lay down your mission
hey all you jokers
hunting seasons over
hey coalition
won't you lay down your mission
lay it down now

all we need is a little addition
ounce of prevention and the will of the law
cause without something you could
put your finger on
somewhere somebody's going to call
call out in laramie

hey all you jokers
hunting seasons over
hey coalition
lay down your mission
hey all you jokers
hunting seasons over
hey coalition
time to lay down your ammunition
hey mother fuckers
hunting seasons over
hey coalition
won't you lay down your mission
lay down now

we hit snow on the road to laramie

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i couldn't have said it better myself...thanks tim!!!!!

>>this list, and the people on it, have changed many lives for the better.
>>what better tribute could we possibly give to the two wonderful women who
>>inspire us all????

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i don't want to get all mccarthy on people, but...

i've never seen this person post before, and they are music dealers and ebay
sellers...does anyone else get the idea that maybe they don't want these for
their own personal enjoyment only???

maybe i'm way out of line, but....it really pisses me off when people try to
make any money at all off of the indigo girls' loyal fanbase...i mean c'mon.

i know i'm being self-righteous, but i had to post.

-mel

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memememi@aol.com wrote:
>
> as requested, here are the lyrics for lucy stoner> *************************************************
> lucy stoner
>
> jannie wenner, jannie wenner
> rolling stone's most fearless leader

who is jannie wenner?  she works for rolling stone?

elaine

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melijoy@aol.com wrote:

> maybe i'm way out of line, but....it really pisses me off when people try to
> make any money at all off of the indigo girls' loyal fanbase...i mean c'mon.

i read and re-read his post and in it he doesn't make any mention of a
cash exchange, but states that he wants to set up a trade - what's wrong
with that?

elaine

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well, i decided to go to the earth challenge on 10/28.

sorry to repeat my request, but can someone send me
some info on this so i can plan my trip?

i'd appreciate it mucho.

have a great day.
cathy

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i hope y'all were watching the special on tlc last night.  it was the second
half of that show that we were talking about last week called "stand and be
counted".  it was about musicians and their activism.  how they stand up for
what they believe in even if it may hurt their careers.  anyway, last night
about half way through the program guess who they have doing a little
snippet of an interview then have a segment that was recorded from a
concert?  oh you will never guess.  you guys are so smart!  it was our very
own a&e singing "closer to fine".  i was very excited.  i hope you all
caught it.

mi rinda

"the dice were loaded from the start.  and i bet and you exploded into my
heart." - m. knopfler

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> > jannie wenner, jannie wenner
> > rolling stone's most fearless leader
>
> who is jannie wenner?  she works for rolling stone?

jann s. wenner is the founder of rolling stone.

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does anyone have a boot with either and/or both of these songs on it?  if so
please e-mail me off list.  i would love to have a copy.  i can do either
trade (though i really don't have much) or b&p.
thanks,
m

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as requested, here are the lyrics for lucy stoner, as well as another one of
amy's new songs - laramie.

these were taken from the versions she sang at the charlotte daemon show,
5/20/00.

=)
lisa

*************************************************
lucy stoner

we were talking of ticket slump
and trying to put our finger on it
quantify the undoing
each little step is just the lack of press
the refrigerator down at the boys club
with it's little magnets of poetry
find 100 different ways to say blow me

jannie wenner, jannie wenner
rolling stone's most fearless leader
gave the boys what they deserve
and with the girls it lost its nerve
oooh whoo now ooooo oooh whoo now

every post punk bar
there's a dressing room wall
where the rock boy band will makes its mark
with 100 different pictures of private parts
and some girl going down
and there's a faggot bashing poetry
but the boys are just saying love me please
and every hate filled phrase
you just give it away
oh yeah you give yourself away

jannie wenner, jannie wenner
rolling stone's most fearless leader
gave the boys what they deserve
and with the girls it lost its nerve

whooo hooo now ooooooo whoo hooo now

yeah we're testing 1 2 3 in the marketplace
but it's the demographic-based disgrace
and stupid secret white boy handshake
that we'll never be a part of
so when it's deejay blowing the morning show
i give you 100 reasons to just say no
i say come on girls let's go right now
aw girls let's go right now

lucy stoners don't need boners
ain't no man could ever own her
gave the boys who had the nerve
she's going to give the girls what they deserve
lucy stoners don't need boners
ain't no man could ever own her
with the boys she had the nerve
to give the girls what they deserve

aw whoo hoo now ooooo whoo hoo


***********************************************
laramie

we hit snow on the road to laramie
we all heard about that mess
but that town ain't nothing different
than the rest

poor man do the bidding for the rich man
those rednecks were just doing what
the classic fuckers thinking
the tolerance it ain't acceptance
i know you wanted it to be
when you're out in laramie

hey all you jokers
hunting seasons over
hey coalition
lay down your mission
hey all you jokers
hunting seasons over
hey coalition
won't you lay down your mission
lay it down now

all we need is a little addition
ounce of prevention and the will of the law
cause without something you could
put your finger on
somewhere somebody's going to call
call out in laramie

hey all you jokers
hunting seasons over
hey coalition
lay down your mission
hey all you jokers
hunting seasons over
hey coalition
time to lay down your ammunition
hey mother fuckers
hunting seasons over
hey coalition
won't you lay down your mission
lay down now

we hit snow on the road to laramie

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> maybe i'm way out of line, but....it really pisses me off when people try to
> make any money at all off of the indigo girls' loyal fanbase...i mean c'mon.

i read and re-read his post and in it he doesn't make any mention of a
cash exchange, but states that he wants to set up a trade - what's wrong
with that?

elaine

i think that what mel is trying to say is that.... what if this dude turns
around and puts them on ebay... or tries to make a profit somehow?  merely
b/c she's never seen him post before... and neither have i.... dont think i
really have an opinion about it... last time i said something some asshole
slammed me.... so god forbid i voice my opinion!  oh... and he knows who he
is..... i'm coming for you big boy!!! hahahaha!
cooper

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date:         wed, 23 aug 2000 11:51:47 edt
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someone sent me the lyrics but i don't know what i did with them.. so this is
what i think they are

<< we were talking the ticket slump
to try to put our finger on it
to quantify the undoing
each little step, it's just a lack of -- press
on the refridgerator down at the  boys club
there's little magnets of poetry
finding 100 different ways to say blow me

(chorus 1)
jannie wenner jannie wenner
rolling stone's most fearless leader
gave the boys what they deserve
but with the girls it lost its nerve

in every  post-punk bar there's a dressing room
where the (new ?-- can't remember) boy band will make its mark
a hundred different pictures of private parts
and some girl going down
and there's a faggot-bashing poetry
but the boys are just saying 'love me, please'
with every hate-filled phrase you just give it away
boys you give yourself away

(chorus 1 rpt)

testing 1-2-3 in the marketplace
it's a demographic case disgrace
stupid secret white boy handshake
that we'll never be part of
so when it's dj flow (i think it's blow) in the morning show
i give you 100 reasons to just say no
i said come on girls, let's go right now
oh girls, let's go right now

(chorus 2)
lucy stoners
don't like boners
ain't no man could ever own her
(?) she had the nerve
to give the girls what they deserve

(chorus 2 rpt)>>

i believe jannie wenner is the editor or head or something of rolling
stone..so it's a nice play on words with lucy stone the feminist and rolling
stone the magazine.

lisa

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oh sorry - i sent the lyrics to ls w/o reading the rest of the digest :p but
i disagree with the lyrics to laramie...

<< hey all you jokers ---- i think it's drunkards
hunting seasons over
hey coalition
lay down your mission
hey all you jokers
hunting seasons over
hey coalition
won't you lay down your mission
lay it down now

all we need is a little addition --- i think it's attention
ounce of prevention and the will of the law -- outside convention and the
wieght of the law
cause without something you could
put your finger on
somewhere somebody's going to call -- somewhere somebody's gonna fall
call out in laramie
  >>

that's my take..
lisa

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hey all! i love these posts! i have a quick question. anyone here
familiar w/ scour? (same as napster but supposedly better!) i have
downloaded and found some great stuff, including a b-day soc of
chickenman, but i can't figure out how to play the damn things! :) it
doesn't have an internal player and i can't seem to import them to my
matchmaker jukebox! if anyone can help me out, feel free to email me! :)
thank you so much!!

cara

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mike,

that was very well put.  i would like to add my 2 cents and say that if
someone on this list is troubled and speaks out to us about it that maybe
there is no one else for them to speak to.  we are it.  so i am open to
receiving private emails at n_d_go@hotmail.com from anyone who needs to
talk, vent, etc.  maybe it seems that this list is not the place for it.
but one post from someone in trouble and it can go off the list from there.
judging from the awesome ig fans that i have met at concerts, i would expect
no less, and neither should anyone else.

traci

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ok, i need to rant for a moment here.

over the past few weeks, i have agreed to do three newbie boot offers (the
first one color me grey and tuesday's children, second- blue food, and third-
purple parott).  whenever i sent the list a new offer, i would always write
"i will take as many people as i can accomadate."  if i didn't e-mail you
back, that means i can not take any more offers at this time.  i feel like i
have been quite generous.  i try to make it as easy as possible for newbies
(maybe not everyone, but i simply can not copy for everyone.  sorry, but
contrary to popular belief, i have a life as well.) to get early recordings.
i do not do 2:1 (and i am not flaming those people who choose to do 2:1).  i
do not request anymore than one blank tape and the correct amount of postage.
i want people who love the girls as much as i do to be able to have their
early recordings.  in fact, the only thing i ask is that people i copy for do
not sell the music.

however, despite the fact that in the past two weeks i have probably copied
hundreds of tapes for people on this list, i still get flammed.  not by the
people who i make the tapes for...in fact, i want to thank everyone who i
have copied tapes for for being so appreciative and understanding that with
the volume of tapes i am copying, it may take two or three days to get yours
back in the mail.  and i especially want to thank brenda for being so
understanding when i fu*ked up and sent her my original!  on the whole, i
have really enjoyed copying the early recordings.  but i have received flames
from people who i can not accomadate.  i am not mentioning any names or any
specifics, but i am starting to get really pissed off and am seriously
questioning whether or not to do another newbie offer after i finish purple
parott.

i can only take so many requests per offer.  if you didn't get in this time,
i am sorry.  and of course i am going to always accept trades (i was flamed
for agreeing to still accept trades after i closed my b&p offer.).  how can i
build up *my* collection if i don't accept trades.  i don't think that is at
all unfair for newbies w/o tapes to trade.  in my opinion, i have been more
than generous with newbies.  and no, i am not doing this because i have to.
i am doing it because i want to.  and i am not the only person who has these
tapes.  i have seen a lot of other offers from other traders posted both on
this list and the igbooters list (have any of y'all gotten flames?).  and
besides that, there is always the tape traders' network.  i don't know the
exact addy, but i have a link to it at the bottom of my boot page.  the
bottom line is, if you want these tapes, there are plenty of ways to get
them.  i am not responsible for seeing that every newbie on this list gets
the early recordings simply because they are a member of the ig list.  nor is
any other trader.  you may need to search a bit harder, but if you want these
tapes badly, you can get them without buying them on ebay and ripping off the
artists.

i feel like i need to post this to the list to a) shut anyone up before they
flame me or any other person who posts a newbie offer because they can not
accomadate them and b) explain my reasoning of why i am considering not doing
any newbie offers in the future.

go ahead, flame me (off list).  i can use my delete key as well...  oh, and
one more thing, i have decided that anyone who has already flamed me for not
being able to accomadate them will have to look elsewhere for the early
recordings.  i will not go out of my way to do any favors for anyone who is
rude enough to complain to me...

karen

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that was very well put traci!! i don't expect everyone would want to hear
baout others problems.  some of us, on the other hand, don't mind people
asking opinions or getting advice...or just being there for someone to talk
too!!  you can also email me privately (listed below) if you want to talk,
vent, etc!!

dana

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45 fremont street
san francisco, ca. 94105
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f: (415) 597-2489
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mike,

that was very well put.  i would like to add my 2 cents and say that if
someone on this list is troubled and speaks out to us about it that maybe
there is no one else for them to speak to.  we are it.  so i am open to
receiving private emails at n_d_go@hotmail.com from anyone who needs to
talk, vent, etc.  maybe it seems that this list is not the place for it.
but one post from someone in trouble and it can go off the list from there.
judging from the awesome ig fans that i have met at concerts, i would expect
no less, and neither should anyone else.

traci

traci drago
st. louis, mo
also at n_d_go@hotmail.com

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*  beneath a quilt somebody's mother made by     *
*  hand with the farmland like a tapestry passed *
*  down through generations and the peach trees  *
*  stitched across the land"                     *
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karen,
i want to personally thank you for making the offers.  i am a "newbie" and
you are providing my first tape (which went in the mail two days ago!).  so,
let me be the first to thank you for doing this!  no one has to make copies
or even offer, but those who do are being very generous with their time.
thanks again!!!

dana
an appreciative newbie :) :)

dana cumberland
barclays global investors
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san francisco, ca. 94105
t: (415) 597-2313
f: (415) 597-2489
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ok, i need to rant for a moment here.

over the past few weeks, i have agreed to do three newbie boot offers (the
first one color me grey and tuesday's children, second- blue food, and
third-
purple parott).  whenever i sent the list a new offer, i would always write
"i will take as many people as i can accomadate."  if i didn't e-mail you
back, that means i can not take any more offers at this time.  i feel like i
have been quite generous.  i try to make it as easy as possible for newbies
(maybe not everyone, but i simply can not copy for everyone.  sorry, but
contrary to popular belief, i have a life as well.) to get early recordings.
i do not do 2:1 (and i am not flaming those people who choose to do 2:1).  i
do not request anymore than one blank tape and the correct amount of
postage.
i want people who love the girls as much as i do to be able to have their
early recordings.  in fact, the only thing i ask is that people i copy for
do
not sell the music.

however, despite the fact that in the past two weeks i have probably copied
hundreds of tapes for people on this list, i still get flammed.  not by the
people who i make the tapes for...in fact, i want to thank everyone who i
have copied tapes for for being so appreciative and understanding that with
the volume of tapes i am copying, it may take two or three days to get yours
back in the mail.  and i especially want to thank brenda for being so
understanding when i fu*ked up and sent her my original!  on the whole, i
have really enjoyed copying the early recordings.  but i have received
flames
from people who i can not accomadate.  i am not mentioning any names or any
specifics, but i am starting to get really pissed off and am seriously
questioning whether or not to do another newbie offer after i finish purple
parott.

i can only take so many requests per offer.  if you didn't get in this time,
i am sorry.  and of course i am going to always accept trades (i was flamed
for agreeing to still accept trades after i closed my b&p offer.).  how can
i
build up *my* collection if i don't accept trades.  i don't think that is at
all unfair for newbies w/o tapes to trade.  in my opinion, i have been more
than generous with newbies.  and no, i am not doing this because i have to.
i am doing it because i want to.  and i am not the only person who has these
tapes.  i have seen a lot of other offers from other traders posted both on
this list and the igbooters list (have any of y'all gotten flames?).  and
besides that, there is always the tape traders' network.  i don't know the
exact addy, but i have a link to it at the bottom of my boot page.  the
bottom line is, if you want these tapes, there are plenty of ways to get
them.  i am not responsible for seeing that every newbie on this list gets
the early recordings simply because they are a member of the ig list.  nor
is
any other trader.  you may need to search a bit harder, but if you want
these
tapes badly, you can get them without buying them on ebay and ripping off
the
artists.

i feel like i need to post this to the list to a) shut anyone up before they
flame me or any other person who posts a newbie offer because they can not
accomadate them and b) explain my reasoning of why i am considering not
doing
any newbie offers in the future.

go ahead, flame me (off list).  i can use my delete key as well...  oh, and
one more thing, i have decided that anyone who has already flamed me for not
being able to accomadate them will have to look elsewhere for the early
recordings.  i will not go out of my way to do any favors for anyone who is
rude enough to complain to me...

karen

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girls
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reply-to:     opihf@aol.com
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n-d-go wrote:
one post from someone in trouble and it can go off the list from there.
judging from the awesome ig fans that i have met at concerts, i would expect
no less, and neither should anyone else.

hey, i agree.  this was what i was trying to say.  post once, then take it off list.  that's all, folks.

alison

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        karen wrote:

        " i have decided that anyone who has already flamed me for not
> being able to accomadate them will have to look elsewhere for the early
> recordings.  i will not go out of my way to do any favors for anyone who
> is
> rude enough to complain to me..."
>
        way to go karen!  i couldn't have said it better myself.  i have
never done a boot, although i've traded, but if that's the way people act,
i'm glad i never have booted.  if i ever do, i'll be sure to watch for this!

        deb

> karen
>
> ----
> "gotta learn to respect what we don't understand..."  --amy ray, indigo
> girls
> ig boot page:  http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/indigodar
> general home page: http://www.geocities.com/karen_rosenblum
>
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>
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in a message dated 8/23/00 1:09:06 pm, alison wrote:

<<hey, i agree.  this was what i was trying to say.  post once, then take it
off list.  that's all, folks.>>

seems to me that's always been the way we've handled things on this list,
post it & ask for private response... and no one has asked we do anything
differently.  this is just another case of everybody getting their undies in
a bunch because someone asked a thread be taken private.  it's not about
intolerance, discrimination, or anything else anyone here wants to get
miliant about.

dee (lesbian with a panic disorder that qualifies as mental illness... making
me more tolerant about those things than the general public, so don't even go
there)

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and he left his wife for a man.

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hi again,

just wanted to kinda bring up a happy thing that neil brings up every now
and then.  ya know how he just loves to get into heated debates about stuff.
  i love reading your posts neil.  this list is just so much fun!  there is
always controversy, discussion, disagreements, and so on and so forth.  i
think most of us are our real selves here.  i would bet that a group of long
time friends may not be as honest to each other as often as we are.  it
really is refreshing.  of course best of all we all love the girls.  i have
never been a bigger fan than i am right now and forever will be, and this
list has everything to do with it.

i swear, my last hearfelt post today, i have to work sometime.

traci drago
st. louis, mo
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another idea would be to start an alternate ig list for that sort of
thing...because frankly i think that the list owners crack down on
supposedly off topic threads a bit too quickly...
anyone interested? i'd be happy to start one up...
sharon

at 11:45 am 8/23/00 cdt, traci drago wrote:
>mike,
>
>that was very well put.  i would like to add my 2 cents and say that if
>someone on this list is troubled and speaks out to us about it that maybe
>there is no one else for them to speak to.  we are it.  so i am open to
>receiving private emails at n_d_go@hotmail.com from anyone who needs to
>talk, vent, etc.  maybe it seems that this list is not the place for it.
>but one post from someone in trouble and it can go off the list from there.
>judging from the awesome ig fans that i have met at concerts, i would expect
>no less, and neither should anyone else.

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you might try indigo_girls@egroups.com.

it's much more tolerant.

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in a message dated 8/23/2000 2:31:52 pm central daylight time,
sparke61@maine.edu writes:

<< another idea would be to start an alternate ig list for that sort of
thing...because frankly i think that the list owners crack down on
supposedly off topic threads a bit too quickly...
anyone interested? i'd be happy to start one up...
sharon
  >>

there is one.  it is an egroups list.  the name is indigogirls.  :-)

:-) karen


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this is total nigc, but i feel it's kind of important.
if you live in the united states and are us citizens,
please register to vote. so many individuals i speak
to feel they cannot make a difference because they are
only one person. the result is mass apathy. folks, i
don't care who you want to vote for. you can vote for
gore, you can vote for ralph nader, you can even vote
for bush and his rheotic of homophobia. my point is,
make a stand. don't "forget" to register and then
complain when bush becomes president.

the conservatives will come out to vote. many are
rallied around their churches. my brother, who is a
fundamentalist christian, is registered to vote and it
doesn't take a political analyst to guess who he is
going to vote for. if my fundamentalist christian
brother (who gleefully chooses a faith that condemns
the rest of his family to hell) is registered so
should each and every one of you.

you can pick up forms to register at your local post
office and it takes less than five minutes.

if you want to flame me, ask me questions, discuss
this further, please email me privately.

julie
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i really disagree. amy's version is so full of raw
emotion. she really gets the pain across. my friend
was playing the dire straits version and i could not
sit through it. after hearing amy's emotionally
intense version, i felt the original could not
compare. not to insult all you dire straits fans. but
even if you like the original better (which i will
accept though not understand, lol) you have to admit,
what amy has done to the song is unbelievable.

julie to some,
miss russia to others :);):)


--- hicktruckdriver <dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu>
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> on mon, 21 aug 2000, elisanne machardy mead wrote:
>
> > dire straits version of "romeo and juliet" is
> nothing like amy's.  i
> > started the download from napster and had to quit,
> because when i
> > listened to it, it just grated on my nerves.  amy
> has taken "romeo and
> > juliet" to heights previously unimagined by mark
> knopler.
>
>    listen again.  i actually prefer the knopfler
> version - no slight to
> amy, but i think her version is less mature.  the
> lyrics are less given to
> howling than to mk's understated voice.
>
>    mk's version of the song feels like a sort of
> resignation, and that's
> more tragic to me.
>
>    not to slight amy -- it's still one helluva
> reworking, although
> one of my least faves of the ig covers.  the
> bluesy-rawkin' "tangled up in
> blue" gets my vote...

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i'm looking for boots with any of the following songs:

1) the joan jett cover tune ig sang with the butchies ("do you want to
touch"?)

2) midnight train to georgia, ig with spearhead

3) any version of johnny rotten

can anyone help me out?? pretty please??!!

thanks,

melissa

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on wed, 23 aug 2000, julie libes wrote:

> i really disagree. amy's version is so full of raw
> emotion. she really gets the pain across.

   we've all read/watched the shakespeare's romeo & juliet, right?  the
story was about a love so perfect that it transcended a family hatred,
that both of them would give up their lives for the love.

   we know juliet left - that's where the amy version falls for me.  i
still like it.

   the only thing more tragic would be romeo's acceptance of the whole
situation, which is where the knopfler version sits.  i also feel that the
song fits better the context of the "making movies" album...like so many
great albums ("the wall," "darkness on the edge of town"), making movies
has a narrative flow which is even stronger than the sum of its parts.

   diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.

   darius

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texas longhorn: two points with a lot of bull in between."
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i just want to say that i don't think the list owners do a bad job at all
but i do think we could maybe let some threads last longer...but since this
list belongs to someone other than me, i can't force that issue on anyone.
however, i may run off to another list as well as this one, or even start
my own.
sharon

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first, in a message dated 8/23/00 3:29:53 pm, sharon wrote:

<<because frankly i think that the list owners crack down on supposedly off
topic threads a bit too quickly...>>

our listowner uses the 48 hour rule, as described in the faq.


then, in a message dated 8/23/00 3:40:20 pm, sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu wrote:

<<you might try indigo_girls@egroups.com.

it's much more tolerant.>>

it has nothing to do with tolerance.  it has to do with keeping to what the
list was created for.  i belong to the other list as well (which, quite
frankly, has been dead of late)... that's the place for off-topic
discussions, and that's where i participate in them.  every few months we go
thru this with a new group of people.  one of those life cycle thangs.

dee (if anyone would like to further discuss this, email me privately please)

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i can talk to the animals wrote:
> however, i may run off to another list as well as this one, or even start
> my own.

you don't have to start another one (unless you really want to) - one
exists (but is rarely used) for off topic stuff.  but people usually
post on the big list about a particular thread until the list owner
kicks it off.  i don't have the address for the indigo girl list at
egroups off hand, but do a search for egroups and follow the
instructions for joining.

elaine

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hi all.
i was perusing ebay for some odd reason the other day. i never let myself do
that because it eats up my time, but i let down my guard and found myself in
the indigo girls section. anyway, i saw a t-shirt with scooter boys lyrics
("hey blue blood you're nothing new/you see i come from privilege too") and
what i think is a butterfly (i could be *way* off on that one). i was just
curious if this was sold at concerts? or if it's someone's creation? ah, my
mind is always wandering and coming up with random questions. thanks for
helping me satisfy my curiousity....
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on wed, 23 august 2000, "becky b." wrote:
there is one with a wolf on it that was sold at concerts (they were really cheap the beginning of this tour and my guess is someone bought a lot of them to sell on ebay!)
d:)
>
> hi all.
> i was perusing ebay for some odd reason the other day. i never let myself do
> that because it eats up my time, but i let down my guard and found myself in
> the indigo girls section. anyway, i saw a t-shirt with scooter boys lyrics
> ("hey blue blood you're nothing new/you see i come from privilege too") and
> what i think is a butterfly (i could be *way* off on that one). i was just
> curious if this was sold at concerts? or if it's someone's creation? ah, my
> mind is always wandering and coming up with random questions. thanks for
> helping me satisfy my curiousity....
> peace,
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hey,

there has been much talk about starting another ig list.  as far as i know,
there are already a lot of ig lists.  i think this one is by far the best for
getting information and discussing things that people who are not obsessed
with the girls would find insignificant.  anyway, but here is a quick rundown
of two other ig lists i know of.

indigogirls@egroups.com -- this list was created a few years ago with the
purpose of discussing both igc and nigc.  most of the people are also
subscribed to this list.  there are really no posting rules, etc.  the
indigogirls list is filled with people who just like to have a good time
(many of the posts are random).

indigo_girls@egroups.com -- this list is quite different from this (ugg!  too
many "this" lists.  ok, here i mean the netspace list, the one i am posting
to right now) list.  it seems to be people who like the indigo girls.  some
like them a lot.  but no one who is as crazy for them as the majority of the
people here.  not as much boot trading or early concert warnings like the
netspace list.  also, not as much as a community as the netspace list.

hope that helps some people.  of course there are also all of the sublists
(mostly from this list) like igbooters, indigohio, etc.

:-) karen


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hi all-

is anyone on this list affiliated with nyu, new school university, or
columbia, or, does anyone live in manhatten?  if so, would you be willing to
do a huge favor for a listee?  i need someone to check out a hostel for me
to see if it seems okay to stay in.  please email me if you can help me out.
of course i'll reimburse you for whatever costs you may incur or whatever.

thanks in advance,
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just wanted to add my name to the list of people
you can email if you need to vent.  i totally agree
with all of you who feel it is ok to discuss your
troubles here.  if you don't want read about, just
skip the message.  and i feel that all of this has
everything to do with amy and emily.  we all found
a connection to them through their music.  that's
what lead us all here and i see us all as a big family
of friends.

i have been through a serious depression myself, and
i've had a couple of close calls, if you know what i mean,
and at the time i didn't have a friend to talk to.

so feel free to email me privately at woodlady14@hotmail.
com if you ever need a friend.

cathy
p.s. vesper, you did the right thing.

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<<i may run off to another list as well as this one, or even start my own.>>

now, i'm a loyal person. i really am. so i say stick with the original (and
still the best) list. (that's this one, kids!). and if you don't like
everything that's posted here (and i don't - mostly my rubbish, i have to
admit) then that's onlybe expected beause you can't please 500+ people all
of the time.

there are cool offshoot lists - the news list that's affiliated to this one,
for example, which is nifty if you don't want to wade through the crap to
get your ig fix. i also like the local-oriented lists 'cause you get to talk
more about list meets and other cool shows without boring the main list so
much. the same with the bootleg list and the indigo singles list. they take
specific interesting-but-not-to-everyone topics and move them somewhere
else, but the main list doesn't lose out.

but five or ten different main ig lists? you get a lot of duplication... no
one wants to wade through that much... the cool people get separated... the
signal to noise ratio increases... this would be a bad thing. i think the
list owner(s?) do a pretty difficult and particularly thankless task very
well.

<<there has been much talk about starting another ig list.  as far as i
know, there are already a lot of ig lists... anyway, but here is a quick
rundown of two other ig lists i know of....>>

not to mention:
http://www.egroups.com/group/indigo-singles
for indigo girls fans looking for love

a ig bootleg trading list:
http://www.egroups.com/group/igbooters

and some area-oriented lists for indigo girls fans:
the baigls
boston area indigo girls list service (i know i have that wrong... and i
don't know the address)

the piggies
philadelphia-ish indigo girls groupies, itenerants, entertainment and social
lists (or something. the acronym came before the explanation of the acronym)
http://www.egroups.com/group/piggies

and two (count 'em) ohio/midwest ig lists:
http://www.egroups.com/group/indigohio
http://www.egroups.com/group/igloh

plus a newsgroup:
alt.music.indigo-girls

so i won't. er, mention them, that is.

oh, the emails that karen sent, were for posting messages - you can
subscribe via the web using these links:
http://www.egroups.com/group/indigogirls
and
http://www.egroups.com/group/indigo_girls
they also show the email subscription options...

i'm planning a webpage with all this info on. but if someone wants to beat
me to it - go right on ahead!!

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hey y'all,

ok, so i know that this has been discussed multiple times on this list
(which is why i ask that you please reply privately). forgive me for never
paying attention until something could directly affect me. the question
is: how does one go about getting backstage passes to meet and greets
(when they have them)? it would be so unbelievably awesome if the 4-city
tour thru montana culminated in me going to a meet and greet. if anyone
has insight, please let me know (once again, privately, of course).

thanks,
amy m.

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of weeks now........and.. i have had much enjoyment and much =
amusement/info from the mails!!
this is a good list, i think those who want to diverse should.
just remember," good friendship seldom dies"..joan armatrading.
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fan discussion..........does it really matter!!
get a grip you folk!  you either enjoy the words, music, =
harmony......... or you don't!
thanks c for the tapes, they were most appreiciated!.....
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i look forward to the replies!!!!!
only 2 please or else we start to lose the plot!!!  and the list!

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date:         wed, 23 aug 2000 16:14:14 -0800
reply-to:     will bryant <will@perfectsoundforever.com>
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>i don't want to get all mccarthy on people, but...
>
>i've never seen this person post before, and they are music dealers and ebay
>sellers...does anyone else get the idea that maybe they don't want these for
>their own personal enjoyment only???
>
>maybe i'm way out of line, but....it really pisses me off when people try to
>make any money at all off of the indigo girls' loyal fanbase...i mean c'mon.
>
>i know i'm being self-righteous, but i had to post.

hey meli --

it's true, i am subscribed to the smaller ig list on egroups and have not
posted to the 'big list' before, but i wanted to reach the more die-hard ig
fans.  i also posted to the newsgroup.

i do have an internet record business which any of you are welcome to check
out at perfectsoundforever.com.  i am the 'will' who is thanked on leticia
perez' ig homepage for supporting her ig 'habit'.  i don't have a whole lot
of ig items in stock right now, but i may offer a few more in exchange for
trading some of the rarigies cd's if i can scrape some good titles
together.

i have been an ig fan since 1989 and even had most of the items i just
offered up for trade since then!  the reason my "get together" cassingle
has no cover is because, in some misguided fervor, i cut the cover off and
displayed it on the bulletin board in my dorm room!!  the only copy of the
ep i have is a crappy old tape recording, so i thought i'd offer up a few
items from my collection that, much as i enjoy them, i thought others might
appreciate even more.

i think a lot of people on the internet tend to demonize record sellers as
profiteers or assholes that don't care about music, when in reality a lot
of record sellers are in the business in the first place because they like
to be surrounded by the thing they love the most.  the same people that
chastise people for selling items on newsgroups or ebay don't recognize the
value of having these venues to search for records and cd's that, 10 years
ago, might only have been available in record collector magazines or by
special order, if you even knew they existed.  the internet offers everyone
an equal chance to buy, sell, or trade recordings of all types, on an
international scale...i'm tickled whenever i send a record to thailand, or
israel, or argentina. i often trade with other music lovers with no cash
involved whatsoever!

even so, i recognize that there are 'bad seeds' on most every list who will
sell others' labors-of-love for a quick profit.  it's not right, but i
don't think they'll go away.  nor do i suspect that the 'ebay police' on
just about every list who go ballistic anytime there's a whiff of someone
profiteering off their favorite band will go away, either.  i guess, like
napster, there's more opinions about it then there are people actually
doing it.  ;)

///////wb
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date:         thu, 24 aug 2000 00:21:14 gmt
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i am also here for anyone to talk to, if anyone wants.
i know how nice it can be to not feel alone.

i am also here if anyone wants to talk about anything.  you don't need to
wait until you have a serious problem to mail me.  you can mail me on the
events of daily life.  i like to do the same sometimes.

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thanks for all of the responses. :) i just wanted to add...the picture on
ebay was quite small, but i still feel kind of stupid thinking that this fox
with a dead bird was a butterfly. i guess a butterfly doesn't 'fit' with the
song & its themes. what was i thinking?
thanks again!
becky

>it's a fox holding a dead bird in its mouth.

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ok, just to make a few points clear. i am not a new listee. i took a break
from this list when things got ugly a year and a half ago or so.  i have
always felt that certain topics were quashed a bit too soon, i'm well aware
of the faq but just because the rules exist doesn't mean i have to like
them.  lastly, even if i subbed to five other indigo girls lists or made my
own, i wouldn't leave this one. what i meant before was that anyone who
wants to have a list to continue these discussions on should really think
about starting one up so we could have both...and i think jen does a fine
job with what she's got. i also know that when i left this list there were
over 900 subscribers, and now we're down to 600 or so.
sharon

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same here, folks. you need someone to talk to and i'm here. works great :)
sharon

at 12:21 am 8/24/00 +0000, warrior princess wrote:
>i am also here for anyone to talk to, if anyone wants.
>i know how nice it can be to not feel alone.
>
>i am also here if anyone wants to talk about anything.  you don't need to
>wait until you have a serious problem to mail me.  you can mail me on the
>events of daily life.  i like to do the same sometimes.
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music has been my greatest solace when life gets hard, which it often has
been in my 36 years. i remember dissociating from all the rampant abuse in
my life growing up to steve miller, the eagles and the like when i was a
kid.

my 20's had me listening to eurythmics (hey, it was a crush on annie
lennox), kd lang, ig, and me. but i got the most....cathartic release from
ig's music. first song that hit me like a ton of bricks was blood and fire
which i heard on my best friend's tape way back in 89. the song seemed all
but autobiographical. it wasn't until i got with breanna that i got to see
ig live for the first time but i *always* scraped together the cash to get
each tape or cd on release date.

i can honestly say that music still plays such an important role in my
recovery. learning how to control the type of music i listen to when in
certain moods has been the key. for instance, if i am feeling all
melodramatic and maudlin and wanting to self-injure (i have quite the
collection of scars and if anyone cares to discuss why off-list, email
me...i am all for educating those who wish to learn but don't care to
discuss the how of it, if that makes any sense), blood & fire may not be the
best thing in the world for me to listen to. but i can gain strength from
songs like lc, ctf, lr, etc.

i was recently diagnosed as bipolar and am now playing the exciting game of
wheel of medications (in case you don't know, ssri anti-depressants are
often ineffective with bipolars which explains why i was not getting any
relief). what led to this? as i've mentioned before, i think what sent me on
my latest spiral has been the death of my friend in flt. #261 and seeing
boys don't cry. my psychic wall started showing signs of stress and cracked.
and when i thought about giving up, i turned to music for comfort. music and
cutting. *sigh*

glad to say i'm now in therapy 3x/wk *ack* (4x if you include massage
therapy which i do because it is helping me have a healthier relationship
with my body) and it is helping tremendously on all fronts. i am one of
those who believe i would not be posting this were it not for the music the
girls have blessed us with over the years. because one of my od's may have
worked.

ryan

we like because, we love although.


> -----original message-----

> i'm sorry, given the experiences and education i have - i am not going to
> allow you to ignore it - i would be more likely to shove it in
> your face and
> make you feel uncomfortable - if that changes your perspective - it isnt a
> bad thing.
>

> let the flames begin - it will not phase me
> sorry for posting somewhat off topic - i felt the need to defend
> the list as
> a safe place.
>

>

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"neil :o)" wrote:

>
> and some area-oriented lists for indigo girls fans:
> the baigls
> boston area indigo girls list service (i know i have that wrong... and i
> don't know the address)

baigls is boston area indigo girls listees, so you were close :-).  so yes, for
anyone from the northeast region of the us who is new on this list, we have a
little community in new england (with some members at large in other parts of
the country).  if anyone is interested in joining it, e-mail me as i am
listowner.  the web page with details is down right now (anyone with links to
my old site, www.crl.com/~pegasus... that's dead and gone, not by my choice)
but i will be reconstructing a web presence very shortly.

amy p.

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hey all,
        i just got my september issue of instyle magazine and there is a feature
on celebrity-owned eateries that includes a photo and info on emily's
watershed : ) there is actually a photo of emily and amy and a pic of the
restaurant's interior, along with address, phone, entree price range and
the restaurant shop, which sells jewelry, cookbooks and more. pretty cool.
oh, it's on page 534.
michelle

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so last night i was working on this 300 yr old restoration piece of stained glass window and ha dthe tv on as well as my cd's going. i have not watched any of the survivor series , honest not at all. however, last night it came on after whatever it was i was watching. had the sounds turned down somewhat so i could hear the cd's while i worked. anyway...i thought it was hysterical when susan began her little dissertation against the last two that shame on you came on the speakers.  i thought it was perfect timing.

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        and free is the word of the day -

        1) for all you philadelphia locals out there, dar williams is
playing the border's in bryn mawr next tuesday at 7:30pm. i'm assuming
it's free, because they've done free shows therein the past and i'm not
sure how you'd charge people admission to a bookstore. drop me a line if
you're planning to be there, because i will be. :)

        2) in a show of solidarity for poor beleaguered karen (and because
i've been meaning to do this anyway) i'm going to offer to dub blue food -
on cassette - to the first 25 people who email me. i almost feel bad
offering this on cassette since it's relatively easy to track down on cd,
but hopefully this will help some of y'all get your foot in the bootleg
door, and blue food is really too good to miss.

        3) i will also dub an interview tape (shades of indigo on one
side, coffeehouse and cold beer on the other) for anybody who is able to
track down 130-minute (or lonnger) blanks. i hear they exist, but i've
never seen them myself. anyway, if you find them, email me and i'll buy a
big pack of them form you so i can offer them to more people.

        mandy

        p.s. i know this probably isn't the de rigeur opinion, but does
the instrumental line of the first track of dar's new album remind anybody
else of dancing queen? no? okay.

                "oh, why don't you just drop your highfalutin airs!"
        jacob said angrily. "you can always die later. we've got more
        important things to do now."
                                        michael ende,
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i just picked up at my local indie trash store a copy of aer46820 on epic.  it is a white label epic demo, from before the sony buyout.   any idea what's on it?

btw, i told the owner about the list and he took my name and number and will call me if anything rare and fascinating comes up.  if there's something you're looking for, e-mail me privately along with the top price you're willing to pay and if it shows up i'll let you know.  i'll just forward his price on to you.  word is he gets a lot of ig stuff.

elisanne

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<p>i just picked up at my local indie trash store a copy of aer46820 on epic.  it is a white label epic demo, from before the sony buyout.   any idea what's on it?</p>
<p>btw, i told the owner about the list and he took my name and number and will call me if anything rare and fascinating comes up.  if there's something you're looking for, e-mail me privately along with the top price you're willing to pay and if it shows up i'll let you know.  i'll just forward his price on to you.  word is he gets a lot of ig stuff.</p>
<p>elisanne</p><p><br><hr size=1><b>do you yahoo!?</b><br>
<a href="http://mail.yahoo.com/">yahoo! mail</a> - free email you can access from anywhere!
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i just realized that i never informed this list of the most direct way to
subscribe to the unofficial indigo girls (and related artists) bootleg
discussion/trading list.
so, here it is.  send a blank message here if you want to subscribe, and
haven't yet. (or if you asked me to subscribe you, and suspiciously haven't
received any mail from igbooters@egroups.com)

<a href="mailto:igbooters-subscribe@egroups.com">igbooters-subscribe@egroups.c
om</a>

thank you.
mel wartenberg

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        okay, folks, an amendment. i realized *after* i sent that last
email that, because shades is in such wide circulation and nobody knows
where to find 130-minute tapes, it makes more sense to just offer
coffehouse and the cold beer promo on a 60 minute cassette. fitting those
on necessitates cutting the studio version of cb&rc, but i think we can
all live with this. i'm going to limit that one to the first 25 people who
email me, for now. with any luck i'll be able to offer it up again later.

        mandy

        p.s. dana c, do you want the 60-minute version, or are you holding
out for shades?


                "oh, why don't you just drop your highfalutin airs!"
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        important things to do now."
                                        michael ende,
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<<i just picked up at my local indie trash store a copy of
aer46820 on epic.  it is a white label epic demo, from before
the sony buyout.   any idea what's on it?>>

nomads*indians*saints
see:
http://www.lifeblood.net/releases/epic/nomadpr.html

"no album title or track listing printed on the cover. an
unknown number came with a song listings sticker. an unknown
number of these were autographed by amy and emily and given away
a record release parties across the country."

i assume yours isn't stickered or autographed?

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my six year old asked me last night if i thought the girls would ever do a =
children album. perhaps with not necessarily traditional songs... mariah =
has loved the girls since she was born. her favorite song is get out the =
map and she likes gone again off the newest one.=20

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yes!  i would love to see a children's album put out by the indigo girls.

wouldn't wild wild party in the loquat tree just be perfect for that?  ;-)

:-) karen

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wow, what a wonderful idea!!!   my seven-year-old niece loves ig and would have killed to see 'em in albany.  she loves "closer to fine" and has even sung it for her mom!  she's yet to hear loquat tree but i know she'd like that, too.

of course, a kids-based album, would help build their fan base for the next 20 years!!!

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<p>wow, what a wonderful idea!!!   my seven-year-old niece loves ig and would have killed to see 'em in albany.  she loves "closer to fine" and has even sung it for her mom!  she's yet to hear loquat tree but i know she'd like that, too.  </p>
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i know growing up ( that was 30 yrs ago) we always loved summertime. i know amy has done this and it was great. a few other that are old favorites of mine that i woudllove to hear heard by them and let my daughter also have those memories:
michael rowed the boat ashore
puff
my name is michael
hush little baby don't you cry .....

those would be only the beginning....sparks

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there is a special on brandon teena tonight on 20/20 downtown on abc 10e/9c...it's  a repeat, but worth catching if you haven't seen it!
d:)


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hey,

i was expecting to get about 20 sets of tapes in the mail today and yesterday
to copy blue food or purple parrot.  in the past two days, i have not gotten
any blanks/sase's.  if i wrote you back that i could include you in my newbie
offers, please please send your tapes soon (if you haven't already).  the
quicker i get those donw, the quicker i can do another newbie offer (if i
choose to.  after being flammed several times i am still undecided.).  if you
have any further questions, contact me.  if not, please get those tapes out
(i think part of the agreement that was in the reply e-mail was to get your
tapes to me asap!).  thanks!

:-) karen

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i found an article mentioning ig @ the michigan womyn's music fest...and it
can be viewed here: http://www.geocities.com/indigomel/michfest.htm
it's long, and reprinted w/out permission.

i have many opinions about what is said in this article by lisa vogel and
others that doesn't pertain to ig's performance, so i will keep it to myself
(unwillingly, but, hey, list rules), but if anyone is interested in debating
their 'attendance policy', email me.

-mel

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hi folks,

i truly don't want to get into an extended argument on this one.  i just want to publicly state
my support for the list-owners and the way that this list is run.  when i signed on, i read the
faq - which clearly outlines the way in which the list is managed.  as i did then, i continue
to have no problem in accepting a (rather generous) 48 hour slot in which to pursue nigc
threads.

thanks jen, you do a great job - and if i have any criticism of the list it is simply that you
don't get enough acknowledgement (from some, not all) for the time and work you put into
running this list.


jane

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i need someone to print up  the designs.  any suggestions?

barb

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didn't they sing "eensy weensy spider" too, along with the actions, which was so
lovely!
fare thee well,
marion.
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i know growing up ( that was 30 yrs ago) we always loved summertime. i know amy
has done this and it was great. a few other that are old favorites of mine that
i woudllove to hear heard by them and let my daughter also have those memories:
michael rowed the boat ashore
puff
my name is michael
hush little baby don't you cry .....

those would be only the beginning....sparks

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was listening to an mp3 of this last night and just wondering if anyone knew
what it is the amy's saying when it sounds like she's saying stuff in a
whole bunch of different languages.
thanx
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from ice (icemagazine.com. subscribe - it's fab.)

"(joan) osborne... has... helped start a post-feminist online magazine,
heroine (www.heroinemag.com), slated to launch the same day as her new
album's release [sept 12]. in its premiere issue, osborne moderates a
discussion between the indigo girls and actress susan sarandon"

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i just received this from aol's new service

lisa

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atlanta ballet angers strikers

.c the associated press

atlanta (ap) - the atlanta ballet plans to hire musicians from the czech
republic to fill in for striking orchestra members, prompting protests from
the strikers.

''it's like hiring migrant workers to come in and pick your cotton for a
day,'' said andrew cos, secretary treasurer of the atlanta federation of
musicians, local 148-462. ''it's a plantation mentality.''

the ballet says it has signed a contract with prague-based poksound to
replace the orchestra temporarily but that it wants to continue negotiating
with the musicians, who went on strike almost a year ago in a dispute over a
pension package.

the plan is for poksound to provide the music for the season-opening ''romeo
and juliet'' in october and for the annual holiday ''the nutcracker.''

orchestra members said they will continue to picket. and the folk duo the
indigo girls, who are from suburban atlanta, said they're pulling out of a
proposed march collaboration with the 71-year-old ballet.

''it's really a slap in the face that they would try to go out of the country
and give our jobs away,'' said julie buenrostro, the ballet orchestra's
principal horn player.

the ballet company said it was not replacing the strikers.

''we went ahead and made those arrangements because, obviously, we haven't
gotten an agreement and we have performances coming up,'' said jacqueline
kalk, an attorney representing the ballet in the labor dispute.

for ''the nutcracker'' last year, the ballet used a replacement orchestra
made up mostly of musicians from a nonunion symphony in fort lauderdale, fla.

the contract with poksound is to provide 44 musicians for ''romeo and
juliet'' and 25 for ''the nutcracker.''

the ballet, which normally employs a 48-member orchestra, says it cannot
afford to pay into the musicians' pension plan. the company does not
contribute to the dancers' pension fund, either.

on the net:

http://www.atlantaballet.com

http://www.afm.org

ap-ny-08-25-00 0913edt

copyright 2000 the associated press.  the information  contained in the ap
news report may not be published,  broadcast, rewritten or otherwise
distributed without  prior written authority of the associated press.

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well i got my cd in the mail yesterday and have to say it is really good. =
amy and emily's voices are right one....i would suggest this album..but =
remember they are all woody guthrie songs, with arlo doing much of the =
covers so ya have to be ready for it. being from ok i knew the music genre =
and such   some may be put off if you are not familiar but it is good.=20
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sorry for the nigc.. a friend of mine has a friend back east in maryland who
has a diabetic cat she is looking to find a home for. the girl lives in
maryland but is willing to drive a couple hours if it means finding a home
for the cat. apparently she does not have the time to take care of it.. so if
anyone would be willing to take the poor cat please e-mail me privately.

:( lisa

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atlanta ballet angers strikers

.c the associated press

atlanta (ap) - the atlanta ballet plans to hire musicians from the czech
republic to fill in for striking orchestra members, prompting protests from
the strikers.

''it's like hiring migrant workers to come in and pick your cotton for a
day,'' said andrew cos, secretary treasurer of the atlanta federation of
musicians, local 148-462. ''it's a plantation mentality.''

the ballet says it has signed a contract with prague-based poksound to
replace the orchestra temporarily but that it wants to continue negotiating
with the musicians, who went on strike almost a year ago in a dispute over a
pension package.

the plan is for poksound to provide the music for the season-opening ''romeo
and juliet'' in october and for the annual holiday ''the nutcracker.''

orchestra members said they will continue to picket. and the folk duo the
indigo girls, who are from suburban atlanta, said they're pulling out of a
proposed march collaboration with the 71-year-old ballet.

''it's really a slap in the face that they would try to go out of the country
and give our jobs away,'' said julie buenrostro, the ballet orchestra's
principal horn player.

the ballet company said it was not replacing the strikers.

''we went ahead and made those arrangements because, obviously, we haven't
gotten an agreement and we have performances coming up,'' said jacqueline
kalk, an attorney representing the ballet in the labor dispute.

for ''the nutcracker'' last year, the ballet used a replacement orchestra
made up mostly of musicians from a nonunion symphony in fort lauderdale, fla.

the contract with poksound is to provide 44 musicians for ''romeo and
juliet'' and 25 for ''the nutcracker.''

the ballet, which normally employs a 48-member orchestra, says it cannot
afford to pay into the musicians' pension plan. the company does not
contribute to the dancers' pension fund, either.

on the net:

http://www.atlantaballet.com

http://www.afm.org

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>from the atlanta journal-constitution

ballet's musician hirings hit sour note

by wendell brock
journal-constitution staff writer

six weeks before its season opens, the atlanta ballet said thursday it will
hire musicians from the czech republic for the october world premiere of
"romeo and juliet" and its annual holiday "nutcracker."

outraged orchestra members, who have been engaged in a rancorous 11-month
strike over a pension package, said they would continue to picket. and
atlanta's indigo girls, citing the ongoing labor disagreement, said they were
pulling the plug on a proposed march collaboration with the 71-year-old
company, the nation's oldest.

"it's really a slap in the face that they would try to go out of the country
and give our jobs away," said julie buenrostro, the ballet orchestra's
principal horn player.

"it's like hiring migrant workers to come in and pick your cotton for a day,"
said andrew cox, secretary-treasurer of the atlanta federation of musicians,
local 148-462. "it's a plantation mentality." the ballet says it has signed a
contract with prague-based poksound to replace the orchestra temporarily but
that it wants to continue negotiating with the union before it acts further.

the players went on strike sept. 1, after the ballet said it couldn't afford
to pay into the musicians' pension plan. the company doesn't contribute to
its dancers' retirement fund, either.

"we went ahead and made those arrangements because, obviously, we haven't
gotten an agreement, and we have performances coming up," said jacqueline
kalk, the atlanta attorney representing the ballet in the labor dispute. she
said the ballet stands to save $149,000 by hiring the foreign players. the
company recently cut its operating budget from $8 million to $7 million and
shaved two programs from the previous season's six.

russell carter, the indigo girls' manager, said his clients were canceling
the proposed partnership because they did not want to appear to be siding
with the ballet on the issue. the indigo girls are themselves members of the
atlanta federation of musicians.

despite repeated efforts to contact them, neither john mcfall, the ballet's
artistic director, nor robert chumbley, its executive director and director
of music, could be reached for comment wednesday or thursday. but catherine
guin, the ballet's director of marketing, said thursday: "we have not decided
to outsource, and we have not announced that we are outsourcing."

"outsource" is industry parlance for hiring nonunion labor. "we would have to
terminate musicians in order to outsource," kalk explained. "we have not
terminated anybody."

but musicians said the contract with poksound, to provide 44 musicians for
"romeo and juliet" and 25 for "the nutcracker," speaks for itself.
traditionally, the ballet has employed a 48-member orchestra.wednesday, more
than 100 internet users from around the country flooded the ballet's web site
with negative comments about the decision. by thursday afternoon, most of
those entries had been deleted.

"the whole country is watching this," buenrostro said, "and atlanta still
seems a little bit oblivious to the situation."

after the ballet announced the indigo girls' deal in june, the folk singers
said through their management that they were concerned about the pending
labor disagreement. at that time, they said they had not signed a contract
with the ballet. "amy [ray] and emily [saliers] had hoped to be a positive
influence on bringing about a settlement," carter said thursday.

after the ballet used an indigo girls image in a july 30 ad in the atlanta
journal-constitution, carter said, "i just had to put them [the ballet] on
written notice that we don't want to see any more ads."

unfortunately, the ballet's season brochure has already been printed -- with
the indigo girls' picture. in a press release thursday, mcfall said: "it was
never our intention for amy and emily to be used as national pawns in what is
a local dispute that they have had no part in."

said carter: "they have decided to cancel because they did not want an
agreement to work with the group to be perceived as support for the position
of the ballet's management."

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        hey y'all -
        okay, i admit it. i'm stumped. i thought y'all would be beating
down my door. but i still have some room left on the interview cassette
offer (cold beer interview disc on one side, rop-era coffeehouse promo on
the other) and fewer than five people have written to me asking for blue
food. if you want these things, people, write to me - all it costs you is
postage and a blank tape, and the worst thing that can happen is that i'll
write you back and tell you the offer is full.
        of course, i might also run a trace on your ip number and find out
where you live and sneak into your house one night and eat you. but i only
do that to people who flame me, so if you're polite about it you should do
just fine.
        mandy

                "oh, why don't you just drop your highfalutin airs!"
        jacob said angrily. "you can always die later. we've got more
        important things to do now."
                                        michael ende,
                                        the night of wishes

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hey everyone,

i can't believe i haven't been curious about this before now, go figure. can
anyone tell me what amy is saying in the background on "trouble"? [at least
i think it's amy and not joan.] it's 2:36 into the song. lifeblood only has
it as  "...shelter..." and "...what i wish...".

thanks,
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i just got the new advocate in the mail yesterday and accidentally got two..
does anyone want the extra?? there's nothing too exciting in it - dick
cheney's daughter is on the cover. this is not the one with the patty larkin
article (sorry, i only got one of those..)

so if anyone wants it, e-mail me..
:) lisa
(and a big thanks to everyone who's helping me find a place for the cat..
hopefully something will come up.)

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i'm travelling from here (la area) to bend, or tomorrow night, and if anyone
lives anywhere along the way and wants to meet up at all for any reason, or
just help me find my way around, please reply asap!  thanks very much!   i
have to deliver a car, then take greyhound back next week.  i'd like to know
about any fun activities or places to see along the way, if anyone can help
with that, thanks!
vesper

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sorry list, but i lost sharon's addy, and i need to get in touch with her so
i can pay her for the tix she gave me for the hob concert!
thanks
vesper

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http://www.advocate.com/html/news/082500/082500ent03.html

friday, august 25, 2000

etheridge to tell all, show all

melissa etheridge will work with coauthor laura morton to
write about the real-life inspiration behind some of her most
notable lyrics in her autobiography melissa etheridge: the
truth is* reports inside.com. morton, coauthor of the 30-day
total makeover with marilu henner and joan lunden*s qealthy
living: a practical inspirational guide to creating balance in
your life, said in a proposal for the book that along with
commonly known facts about her life, etheridge will also write
about her childhood, the sexual abuse she received at the
hands of her sister, and an abusive relationship she had with
an older woman. random house is set to publish the book
next year. etheridge also recently told us weekly that she
would like to bare all for playboy magazine. *i*d do it to be the
first boundary-crossing big-dyke-gone-playboy,* etheridge
said. *well, the first out dyke, anyway.*


subject: melissa etheridge sells autobiography, which will say more than...

http://www.inside.com/story/story_cached/0,2770,8652_8_9_1,00.html

melissa etheridge sells autobiography, which will say more than 'yes i am'
by pj mark
thursday , august 24 12:04 p.m.


she came out of the closet with her album yes i am. she told rolling stone
that david crosby was the sperm donor for the child she had with lover julie
cypher. so what else does melissa etheridge have to reveal in the
autobiography villard's editorial director, bruce tracy just bought?

if she follows the plan set out by her co-author, laura morton -- but doesn't
let morton's voice drown out hers -- the answer is: more than you think.

agent mort janklow sold melissa etheridge: the truth is... on the basis of an
11-page proposal, five of which etheridge wrote by herself. (the other six
pages take the form of a letter from morton.) etheridge's writing, while
clearly in need of shaping, reflects honest rumination on the situation that
led her to create her 1993 hit ''i'm the only one.''

two years into their relationship, she writes, cypher confessed her
attraction to a mutual friend. etheridge, who says she was ''unaccustomed to
talking about infidelities prior to anything actually happening,'' felt all
her issues about ''relationships, love, mistrust, mindsets and psychological
sex'' resurface. so she wrote the song, declaring ''i'm the only one who'll
walk across a fire for you.''

morton's pages suggest that etheridge will reveal more than just back story
about song lyrics. she'll also write about her childhood, the sexual abuse
suffered at the hands of her sister and the ''terrifying emotionally abusive
relationship'' etheridge had while in her late teens and early 20s with an
older woman. she will talk about her relationship with cypher, about being a
parent (and the decision to choose crosby to father their child) and the
downsides and responsibilities of suddenly becoming the poster girl for gay
rights and gay mothers (though morton says etheridge ''proudly participates
in the gay community as a spokeswoman''). the book will also include lyrics,
some previously unpublished.

at least one editor who decided against bidding expressed concern about ''the
book finding its audience.'' but another thought it was apparent that
etheridge ''had her heart in the writing, unlike other celebrity
autobiographies.'' two executives whose houses considered the book claimed
janklow was initially asking for a seven-figure advance. although neither
could confirm what tracy paid for the book, they said a reasonable price
would be somewhere between $150,000 and $350,000.

morton (co-writer of the 30-day total health makeover with marilu henner and
healthy living: a practical inspirational guide to creating balance in your
life by joan lunden) will clearly help structure the book, but she needs to
loosen up her tone. etheridge -- who makes passionate rock 'n' roll
statements like ''i get aroused by the sexuality and power of the words and
music'' -- obviously has a more compelling voice than either henner or lunden
and shouldn't be buried in breathless, cliched prose. some of morton's lines
are ''for the first time ever, we will be allowed to explore [etheridge's]
incredible treasure trove''; and ''melissa's book will be like a window
allowing the reader to take an extraordinary look inside this deeply intense
soul.''

random house will publish next year, around the same time that etheridge
hopes her one-woman show will open on broadway. ''melissa is simultaneously
developing a concert performance that will echo the concept of this book,''
morton writes, a fact that billboard.com reported ''telling her life story
through her music and personal anecdotes.'' the book is slated to be
published next year.

tracy could not be reached for comment.

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        are closed for now. sorry, folks. those of you who have written me
so far, i'll send you more info soon.
        mandy
        shutting up now

                "oh, why don't you just drop your highfalutin airs!"
        jacob said angrily. "you can always die later. we've got more
        important things to do now."
                                        michael ende,
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hello all,
      just wondering if there is a website that keeps all the setlists from
the tour.
i am looking for the one from the 2nd night at the house of blues in la.
  thanks,   jodie

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>
> hello all,
>       just wondering if there is a website that keeps all the setlists from
> the tour.
>

lifeblood.net


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hey robbin!

i can't figure it out either.  actually, i have a lot of questions
lately.  if you're a die hard ig fan and you feel the need to be a smarty
pants, please read below.

1.  what is amy saying in "trouble" at 2:36?
2.  how come i can't hear the hidden track at the beginning of  _social_?
3.  where and how did "compromise" begin?
4.  how come college radio stations don't play ig; is there some legal
reason?
5.  where was the picture of the "in the river up to our knees" taken?
6.  what's being said in the background during "sister"?
7.  who and what is the background "...i was scared..." part in "go"?


okay, that's it for now.  please forgive my ignorance of late.  i'm just
now getting back to my real self.  letting the dust settle after a couple
of big moves is important.  which reminds me;;;;where's michal?  doin'
okay where ever you are?

i'm home sick tonight....cough, cough, cough.....ah chew!!!!!!

-chee
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chee,

ok, i don't know all of these but i do know a few:

>>2.  how come i can't hear the hidden track at the beginning of
_social_?<<

heh.  that's because it's not there.  it was an april fool's day
joke... there is no hidden track at the beginning of cons.  the only
hidden tracks are at the end of track 12, a reprise of "sister" and
emily's "philosophy of loss".

6.  what's being said in the background during "sister"?

"wish i was a mother, with a baby at my breast, i am just a farmer,
with a milk cow and a mess"  this was confirmed by one of our listees
that interviewed them and asked emily specifically.

7.  who and what is the background "...i was scared..." part in "go"?

in the liner notes for cons it says the spoken words in "go" by meridel
le sueur from 'salute to spring, i was marching' copyright 1940.

hope that helps!

jean

--- chee hill <cheebug@juno.com> wrote:


> hey robbin!
>
> i can't figure it out either.  actually, i have a lot of questions
> lately.  if you're a die hard ig fan and you feel the need to be a
> smarty
> pants, please read below.
>
> 1.  what is amy saying in "trouble" at 2:36?
> 2.  how come i can't hear the hidden track at the beginning of
> _social_?
> 3.  where and how did "compromise" begin?
> 4.  how come college radio stations don't play ig; is there some
> legal
> reason?
> 5.  where was the picture of the "in the river up to our knees"
> taken?
> 6.  what's being said in the background during "sister"?
> 7.  who and what is the background "...i was scared..." part in "go"?
>
>
> okay, that's it for now.  please forgive my ignorance of late.  i'm
> just
> now getting back to my real self.  letting the dust settle after a
> couple
> of big moves is important.  which reminds me;;;;where's michal?
> doin'
> okay where ever you are?
>
> i'm home sick tonight....cough, cough, cough.....ah chew!!!!!!
>
> -chee
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hey all~
    sorry for posting this, but it has been way too long since i had
subscribed. how would i go about unsubscribing? i leave for college tomorrow
(aaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!! scary!) and will not have aol so i will be subscribing
under galileogirl_2000@yahoo.com   but to do that i would first like to
unsubscribe from this addy. can anyone help me? again, sorry!!!
peace~
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has anyone seen the movie "desert hearts"....i thought it was excellent...a
cheesy 80's lesbian flick...but tastefully done...i recommend it if you guys
haven't seen it yet!!

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in a burst of indigo-interest tinged boredom, i looked around for info on
meridel le sueur. she seems really interesting, and there are a lot of
direct connections between "go" and her life...i got a lot of info about her
from this website:
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45/028.html
has anyone read any of her work, especially "i was marching"?
just curious... i may go look for it at the library, and if i figure out
what is being said, i'll be sure to get back to the list.

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7.  who and what is the background "...i was scared..." part in "go"?

in the liner notes for cons it says the spoken words in "go" by meridel
le sueur from 'salute to spring, i was marching' copyright 1940.

hope that helps!

jean

--- chee hill <cheebug@juno.com> wrote:


> hey robbin!
>
> i can't figure it out either.  actually, i have a lot of questions
> lately.  if you're a die hard ig fan and you feel the need to be a
> smarty
> pants, please read below.
>
> 1.  what is amy saying in "trouble" at 2:36?
> 2.  how come i can't hear the hidden track at the beginning of
> _social_?
> 3.  where and how did "compromise" begin?
> 4.  how come college radio stations don't play ig; is there some
> legal
> reason?
> 5.  where was the picture of the "in the river up to our knees"
> taken?
> 6.  what's being said in the background during "sister"?
> 7.  who and what is the background "...i was scared..." part in "go"?
>
>
> okay, that's it for now.  please forgive my ignorance of late.  i'm
> just
> now getting back to my real self.  letting the dust settle after a
> couple
> of big moves is important.  which reminds me;;;;where's michal?
> doin'
> okay where ever you are?
>
> i'm home sick tonight....cough, cough, cough.....ah chew!!!!!!
>
> -chee
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hey,

happy weekend!  anyway, i just got in from seeing shannon curfman and cowboy
mouth at the lincoln park zoo (chicago).  i went with friends who don't
necessarily go for the music.  the show was ok, but to be perfectly honest,
shannon curfman was not my favorite ig opener i had ever seen.

i hadn't been to the official site in quite a long time, but i did see that a
date in winston-salem, nc was added.  sometime in late october, i believe.  i
don't know if this was posted here yet or not.  oh well.  i can't go for a
bunch of reasons (i'm not about to drive to nc from chicago, i would have no
place to stay, i think i'll be in london on that date anyway, yaddy yaddy
yah).  but i am sure the new date will please ig fans who live down there.
the nc shows are not part of the hte tour.  does anyone know if more dates
are due to be added to the hte tour?  or does the entire tour consist of four
dates in montana (amy,you are lucky!!!)?

anyway, nite all.  i need to wake up semi early to buy dar williams tickets
tomorrow morning...

:-) karen

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the good news is that they did do a great version of kenny loggins "return to
pooh corner"

i grabed it from napster!

happy hunting everyone!

joe
brooklyn, ny

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date:         sat, 26 aug 2000 12:19:16 -0700
reply-to:     wherever <wherever@primenet.com>
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>7.  who and what is the background "...i was scared..." part in "go"?
>
>in the liner notes for cons it says the spoken words in "go" by meridel
>le sueur from 'salute to spring, i was marching' copyright 1940.
>
>hope that helps!
>
>jean

here are the words, from lifeblood.net:

the truth is i was afraid
i felt inferior
i felt i excelled in competing with others and i knew instantly that these
people were not competing at all, that they were acting in a strange,
powerful trance of movement together
and i was filled with longing to act with them and with the fear that i
could not

spoken part read by emily saliers from "i was marching" by meridel lesueur
in salute to spring

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hi!  i don't talk on this list much, just basically
read what y'all are saying and get updates on the
girls whereabouts. but then someone asked about
serious k.d. lang fans so i had to speak.  ;o)  can't
wait to see her in concert when she comes to portland,
or for the i.s. tour.  ;o)  let's hope there are other
k.d. fans on this list too.  but if there isn't, that
is understandable.  that's why i am subscribed to the
k.d. lang list too.  :o)

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date:         sat, 26 aug 2000 15:56:05 -0400
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house at pooh corner off the b-band demo tape...

anyone have the "mysteries" rehearsal on mp3 - i have blue food (and
actually a completely *different* b-band demo that i got prior to the one
widely circulating beginning in 94 - this one is referred to in the 1200
curfews liner notes as " collection called extentions")

i just need it to compile er4 for someone - if you can encode to real audio
(not version 8. say g2) i have a server you can throw it onto (real audio is
a smaller file size...

also - i've seen early setlists with fire and rain - does anyone (jude??)
have this recorded? a date or specific tape?

thanks! (wow not even nigc)
please reply privately -

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thanks jenna for that!  i could have looked up on lifeblood for those,
but it's more of a headache to get on the internet than y'all could
imagine.  i have a "recycled" computer.  do y'all remember that movie
back in the 80's that was about a computer and it's owner?  the computer
ended up having a personality and he even fell in love with the owner's
girl friend, and the computer ended up taking advantage of the owner?
well, i feel like i'm being manipulated by my computer.  didn't hd
thoreau mention that about we don't surf upon the internet, the internet
surfs upon us?  wait, thoreau probably meant trains.  no kidding; i got
the computer out of the county dump and fixed it up.  [note: if anyone
has any spare parts like a faster modem, a mouse that works, a sound card
then e-mail me]  anyway, internet is tough to surf through with this
thing.

seriously, get this:  as i was reading jenna's post with the words as
spoken on "go" by meridel le sueur, i was listening to "go" --->>>> and
just as my eyes hit what jenna posted, the exact words came out of my
speakers.  no kidding.  strange huh?  this kind of moment has happened
once before.  about 2 years ago, i was working for the natl park service
mapping endangered species habitats with gps equipment.  i was sitting
through a t-storm waiting for it to stop lightning, and i was listening
to an ig bootleg with "go" on it.  i was contemplating taking some time
off for christmas vacation.  i didn't want to let my sister and mother
down by staying in the back woods of texas during christmas away from my
family, so as i was sitting there in my truck all wet and sweaty, "go"
and lightning convinced me to let go of my fear of seeing my family (a
lot of pain related to my family) to just go, go, go.  on the flip side,
guess where i went while in town for christmas?  eddies attic.  got to
see amy for first time in my life, and i got to see michelle and danielle
and kristen hall all play together in a quaint little setting.  it was
such a moment.  all because of a sweaty government truck, a walkman with
an ig bootleg, and a t-storm.  "go" is great.  but, at times i wish it
rocked a little more than it does on _social_.

cough, cough, sniff, sniff, oh what a relief this list is.

-chee (still sick)
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date:         sat, 26 aug 2000 19:40:01 -0400
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um  wasnt that house at pooh corner they did return to pooh corner is the
sequal he did just rcently

on sat, 26 aug 2000 sprdinosur@aol.com wrote:

> the good news is that they did do a great version of kenny loggins "return to
> pooh corner"
>
> i grabed it from napster!
>
> happy hunting everyone!
>
> joe
> brooklyn, ny
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i just caught a promo for hbo's "sex and the city" where the one character,
samantha says "well, i'm a trisexual because i'll try anything once" and it
got me curious about the show (which i happen to love) and i wondered how
the women on the listserve (men's comments also welcomed especially neil,
mike and brian) feel about the show. since sexual orientation has been
discussed on other threads in the past and i think there are a few
"trisexuals" on list besides myself i thought it would be fun to hear
everyone's comments on a show that is so skewed towards  single heterosexual
women. if you've seen it and care to comment i just wanted to..... know
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hi, i couldn't help myself...just had to mention that tomorrow, on sunday, i
get to go see kd lang at wolf trap. but that ain't all...i won the artist
direct ticket concert, so i have a good chance of meeting her too!!! :) :)
:)

peace tonight,
lyndsay


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date: sat, 26 aug 2000 12:32:15 -0700

hi!  i don't talk on this list much, just basically
read what y'all are saying and get updates on the
girls whereabouts. but then someone asked about
serious k.d. lang fans so i had to speak.  ;o)  can't
wait to see her in concert when she comes to portland,
or for the i.s. tour.  ;o)  let's hope there are other
k.d. fans on this list too.  but if there isn't, that
is understandable.  that's why i am subscribed to the
k.d. lang list too.  :o)

-lauryn

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i could swear that was amy not emily reading the
words.

julie :)


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> >7.  who and what is the background "...i was
> scared..." part in "go"?
> >
> here are the words, from lifeblood.net:
>
> the truth is i was afraid
> i felt inferior
> i felt i excelled in competing with others and i
> knew instantly that these
> people were not competing at all, that they were
> acting in a strange,
> powerful trance of movement together
> and i was filled with longing to act with them and
> with the fear that i
> could not
>
> spoken part read by emily saliers from "i was
> marching" by meridel lesueur
> in salute to spring


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well, i am not at all a kd lang fan.  but now if my friend ever gives me
anymore kd flats (thinking that i like her), i'll be sure to offer them up on
this list.  one of the girls in my japanese home visit family likes kd as
well.  but since the flats are rather large (not heavy -- just large) and
bent up flats are no fun, making them very expensive to ship to japan, it's
jsut easier to offer them up here (hummm...i wonder how she even got into kd
lang in the first place. i don't remember kd being huge in japan, and this
girl loves poppy music (read: the backstreet boys) weird.)

:-) karen (who got 1st row center dar williams tickets!!!)

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what exactly is a trisexual?


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date: sat, 26 aug 2000 20:12:52 -0400

i just caught a promo for hbo's "sex and the city" where the one character,
samantha says "well, i'm a trisexual because i'll try anything once" and it
got me curious about the show (which i happen to love) and i wondered how
the women on the listserve (men's comments also welcomed especially neil,
mike and brian) feel about the show. since sexual orientation has been
discussed on other threads in the past and i think there are a few
"trisexuals" on list besides myself i thought it would be fun to hear
everyone's comments on a show that is so skewed towards  single heterosexual
women. if you've seen it and care to comment i just wanted to..... know
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i know i have asked this before but i feel compelled
to do so again. are there any good tori amos lists out
there?

i'm subscribed to a few but they are so off topic,
never discussing tori at all, that they're a complete
waste of my time and make me realize how wonderful it
is to have a moderator who cares (thanks jen!). if
anyone has found one that has focus and provides
useful, tori-related information, kinda like this
list, please let me know.

thanks in advance,
julie :)

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at 03:56 pm 8/26/2000 -0400, mike reynolds wrote:
>house at pooh corner off the b-band demo tape...
>
>anyone have the "mysteries" rehearsal on mp3 -

mysteries? i have an acoustic version "mystery" on mp3 if that
helps at all...

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at 07:14 pm 8/26/2000 -0700, julie libes wrote:
>i could swear that was amy not emily reading the
>words.
>
>julie :)

hmmmm...it always sounded like emily to me! but i'm a sucker for
her voice. i love it so much. :)


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hey y'all,

i have been dealing with someone who (not from this list) is asking for
advide regarding a bad trader for the past two hours.  plus, i am still
feeling the effects of whatever it was i had to drink tonight.  and finally,
i had people back out of my newbie offers.  so yes, i am making an offer.

why, you may ask, after i have been flammed?  well, 99% of the people on this
list rock.  i have gotten some of the nicest e-mails ever since i posted how
badly i was flammed.  my solution:  no boots for anyone who flammed me (and
trust me, if you flammed me, you know it!  e-mailing me a few times to find
out if the offer is still open is not a flame!!!  the flames i received were
offensive and downright rude!).

so, here's the offer.  wait, let me digress for a second.  for this offer, i
am only going to take 10 people.  if this works out peachy, i promise many
more offers.  so far i have offered blue food (60 min), purple parrot (90
min), tuesday's children (60 mins) and color me grey (amy ray solo -- 60
mins).  those are some of my favorite early recordings.  most of the songs
are no longer performed.

so here's the deal.  take your pick of one of the abovementioned boots.  just
e-mail me that you want in -- no need to tell me which boot you choose (just
be sure to tell me that information in the note that you send me along with
the tape and postage paid padded envelope!!!!  but more on that if i can
accomadate you).  my hope is that soon, a lot more ig fans with nothing to
trade will have a good start on their boot collections.

anyway, i'll be up for a little more (i hate going to sleep half drunk!).  so
if you want in, e-mail me soon!  remember...only 10 people (but don't worry,
more boot offers to come).  and of course i will be checking my e-mail
tomorrow, so it's not like i expect any replies at this ungodly hour!

:-) karen

ps- thanks to all of you who made my newbie offers rewarding!  flames do
happen, but i just won't be sharing my boots with anyone who flamed me.  :-)
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<<i just caught a promo for hbo's "sex and the city" where the one
character, samantha says "well, i'm a trisexual because i'll try anything
once"... i think there are a few "trisexuals" on list>>

let me think... my bride's birthday, my birthday, then the long, agonizing
wait 'till christmas.

yeah. tri-sexual.

:o)

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oh my god!!!  i can't believe that a radio station like 99x here in
atlanta finally played ig after i sent e-mails out to matt (the dj who
runs the "organic" show) all morning long.  i basically begged him to
play an ig song and he played "shame on you"!!!   although he messed up
and let like 3 minutes pass with dead air afterwards.  anyway, hopefully
the dead air was meant to make listeners think about ig - a moment of
silence if you will.

-chee


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date:         sun, 27 aug 2000 09:10:25 -0500
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sorry for the nigc, but i just got back from seeing two melissa ferrick
shows and now i'm dying to get some bootlegs from any of her recent
shows.  if anyone has any boots they're willing to trade, email me
privately.  i have a small collection of ig and ani boots on tape to
trade or i can send blanks.

thanks
-kendra

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wow. liner notes by susan faludi. i'm impressed.

*********
indigo girls ready career retrospective
the indigo girls - amy ray and emily saliers - will release their career
overview, indigo girls: a retrospective, on oct. 3. in keeping with their
lighthearted reputation, the duo has packaged the single-disc set to
resemble a scholastic notebook and tapped noted feminist susan faludi to
provide liner notes. the 16 selections, which span the gamut of the pair's
15-year career, include two new songs, "devotion" and "leaving." sony's
legacy imprint also plans to reissue four indigo girls albums - strange
fire; indigo girls; nomads, indians, saints; and rites of passage - with
bonus tracks, new packaging, and liner notes by paul evans and elizabeth
wurtzel (author of prozac nation).


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i remember the discussion on the list way back where people debated who
said "moo" in the live version of galileo on 1200 curfews...
it's emily, though...i'd have known that even without being told. amy's
voice is really deep, remember?
sharon

at 07:14 pm 8/26/00 -0700, julie libes wrote:
>i could swear that was amy not emily reading the
>words.
>
>julie :)
>
>
>--- wherever <wherever@primenet.com> wrote:
> > >7.  who and what is the background "...i was
> > scared..." part in "go"?
> > >
> > here are the words, from lifeblood.net:
> >
> > the truth is i was afraid
> > i felt inferior
> > i felt i excelled in competing with others and i
> > knew instantly that these
> > people were not competing at all, that they were
> > acting in a strange,
> > powerful trance of movement together
> > and i was filled with longing to act with them and
> > with the fear that i
> > could not
> >
> > spoken part read by emily saliers from "i was
> > marching" by meridel lesueur
> > in salute to spring

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hey does anyone know how to contact the owner of

http://members.tripod.com/~squeekyfromme/sulli.html

it's a website dedicated to the awesome guitar tech sulli!!
i have some great  pictures to send in from her birthday party with a couple
of the girls that star on xena: warrior princess

let me know..

e

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ok - someone pleasae start the "ig political discussion list because susan
faludi is writing the liner notes and some one will the pants all bunched up
over it now.."
but it interesting the author of prozac nation is doing liner  notes. my
god, the indigo girls are actually treating fans as intelligent and not
going for lowest common denomator.

peace-
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elizabeth wurtzel published an essay called, "the (fe)male gaze" in a book
called _surface tension_.  the essay examines amy's performance of "r&j."

so, wurtzel isn't such a strange choice.

on sun, 27 aug 2000, mike reynolds wrote:

> but it interesting the author of prozac nation is doing liner  notes. my
> god, the indigo girls are actually treating fans as intelligent and not
> going for lowest common denomator.

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hey folks...
ive been off the list for a while..its good to be back

i was wondering if anyone has a copy of ellen's interview w/diane sawyer
theyd be willing to trade or sell. i have lots of fun ig boots, ig tv
appearences, ellen stuff...
i would be most grateful.

please respond to my email, not the list. thanks!
-sarah

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first of all i would like to say that i feel that this is at least sigc!

sulli, is amazing!!! i would love to see her actually play sometime...
you should see me when she is doing her tuning thang!!! i must take a
million pictures...i actually have a pic that she used to tune ig's guitars
before the bucknell, pa show...sulli is great...i always try to catch up
with her at each show i go to and thank her for what she does...she has a
very hard, tireless, and sometimes thankless job...not that ig doesn't give
her thanks, because i am sure they do, but i think that the audience as a
hole kind of sometimes forgets what she actually does...so here is my
kudos!! thanks to sulli!! amy and emily truly have a gem!!!!!!

ok, sorry i just had to rant...the girl friggin rocks!!! she is one of the
nicest people that i have ever met...
peace and love,
        carrie

p.s.i have some pretty nice shots of her from the albany show...ok, yes i
could go on and on and on...
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hello kind friends and intimate strangers!
i was wondering if a kind soul who happened to tape "the truth about jane"
would make a copy for me. i was planning on taping it today (my birthday!)
but lifetime inexplicably showed another movie instead of "...jane".
needless to say i am pretty bummed about it!
i will bestow a blank tape and any ig goodie i can stand to part with upon
the good giver! please email me privately.
thanks.
michele

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actually i don't think most of the audience knows who sulli is. we go to
concerts, and if
we're not in show biz and we're not the type
to follow-up on a band, chances are we just take the stage crews for
granted.

i wish the girls would release a documentary like the judds did several
times, that not only tells about the music, but interviews te road crews
,  and  shows all the work that goes into
each and every show., and gets you acquainted
with the managers, and they get to tell what they like about their job,
and all th planning that
goes into a tour, the rehearsals etc.

live at the fillmore will have to suffice for now.
maybe they can do  that when they get back.

and i have watershed.

peace
barb

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i would have to agree with the emily croud
on this one....it definitely does not sound like
amy,

on the other hand  does it ever occurr to anyone that maybe neither of
the girls are reading it?  maybe it's an excerpt from a recorded book

if that's not the case ( i add ) i would defiiely go
with emily.

peace
barb

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less than 24 hours later and...the newbie offer is closed.

hey, but don't frown if you didn't get in.  when i finish this batch, i'll
probably do another one!

:-) karen

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ack!  i don't have any for this week :(  so if you are this week or...
if you are not on the list, and would like to be, feel free to
email me privately.  i will put you on the list asap.  some people have
just included their email address and birthday, others include their real
name, and lots include quotes.  any form is acceptable.  similarly, if you
are on the list and would like to add/change/delete your entry, do so
privately and i will update.  do not forget to include your b-day if you
are in the add/change/delete category...i really don't want to sift
through hundreds of entries to find yours.  thanks :)

*grins* take care, y'all!

love,
audra
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hey guys,


i was going to leave this alone but it seems to be sticking around too long.

it is emilly who says "moo"

love you guys!
joe
brooklyn,ny

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hi all,

anyone who is waiting on cds from me, be it sioux falls or other, i swear
they are on their way out the door by this weekend.  i have just been super
busy with all kinds of other stuff, but i will slow down enough to make them
i promise.  thanks for all of your patience.

traci

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someone help me please....
in "romeo and juliet' the lyrics refer to a "movie song".
what movie song??

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> someone help me please....
> in "romeo and juliet' the lyrics refer to a "movie song".
> what movie song??

that would be the movie "romeo and juliet" directed by franco zeffirelli and
starring olivia hussey and leonard whiting.  it was released in 1968.  the
song would be "a time for us", the love them.

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i was in the car last night with my girlfriend and i was flipping radio
stations...low and behold i caught the tail end of the 1200 curfews version
of least complicated...tell me how great that was?!?!
and then to top it off not 20 minutes later the same station played
ani difranco's livin in clip version of fire door!!! i was dying!!!!!
and this is a radio station that for the most part plays pretty heavy
alternative stuff...unless they get requests...so whoever in state college
pa requested that stuff(no one on this list i am sure) here is my thanks for
some great music...
peace and love,
            carrie
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oh sorry for repeating info already given,  it was
not intended.

peace
barb

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i know this not the "proper" place but i am kinda desperate. i am in need =
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enhanced cd.
if anyone can help it would be great. i have already checked most o fthe =
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obscure site out there...thanks...sparkie=20
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date:         mon, 28 aug 2000 14:48:30 edt
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hey kind friends.  i will try to make this story short and sweet.  i am an
intern for school.  i will be leaving the internship in like 2 weeks.  my
supervisor and i have been through rough times and we have become friends.
she is the best ever and has allowed me to take off several times to go to ig
shows.  she is very interested in them and wants to know what they sound
like.  well of course as a going away present i was going to get her a cd.  i
was going to get her rop because i believe it to be the best.  as a side note
her favorite color is purple..and i mean everything she has is purple.  sooo
i though how cool would it be if not only did i give her a cd..but if i her
ig purple parrot. she will get a huge kick out of this.  although i have many
boots this is one that i do not have.  i am asking someone kind soul who has
a burner if they would be willing to make me a good copy of this..i mean
afterall i need to start her off with a good impression of the girls.  i
would appreciate this greatly..and i have good things to trade...please email
me asap if you can help.  thanks bunches y'all..

carla :o)

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date:         mon, 28 aug 2000 15:40:36 edt
reply-to:     indigokare@aol.com
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hey y'all!

i got the cbrc single in the mail today from indigogirls direct!  yah! i
haven't listened yet because i have a large pile of b&p's that also arrived
today.

:-) karen

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date:         mon, 28 aug 2000 16:20:46 -0400
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i always thought it refered to "somewhere" from westside story, just because
of the line "there's a place for us." of course, i've never payed attention
to the song from the zeferelli version...

~megan


> someone help me please....
> in "romeo and juliet' the lyrics refer to a "movie song".
> what movie song??

that would be the movie "romeo and juliet" directed by franco zeffirelli and
starring olivia hussey and leonard whiting.  it was released in 1968.  the
song would be "a time for us", the love them.

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sheryl jones
sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu
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carla sloan page: http://www.geocities.com/carlasloan

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date:         mon, 28 aug 2000 17:16:26 -0400
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actually, the song is "there's a place for us" which is actually quoted in
the song "romeo and juliet" and it's from west side story...
sharon


> > someone help me please....
> > in "romeo and juliet' the lyrics refer to a "movie song".
> > what movie song??
>
>that would be the movie "romeo and juliet" directed by franco zeffirelli and
>starring olivia hussey and leonard whiting.  it was released in 1968.  the
>song would be "a time for us", the love them.

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date:         mon, 28 aug 2000 12:19:42 -0700
reply-to:     amy swenson <amy_indigirl@yahoo.com>
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hey there -

two things:
1. if you haven't sent your t-shirt payment yet, please do so asap. i'm
not ordering the shirts until i receive all of the money, so you'll
cause everyone else on the list to wait and then get mad, and no one
wants that. :) please don't email me right now to see if i received
payment. i will be sending out an email to those who haven't paid later
this week as soon as i can get a little more organized. you know
whether or not you've sent it. and we're all big kids now, right?

2. is anyone going to the tracy chapman concert in san jose this
wednesday? i'm going solo and t'would be cool to hook up with any other
listees who may be there too. just curious.

love,
amy

ps - i haven't slept more than 4 hours for about a week. please excuse
the loopiness and the bad typing. :)

__________________________________________________
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i got my cd this weekend....listening to it right now...driving my =
co-workers crazy ( but they can't say anything cause i am the boss) too =
funny...i am also from ok so it is cool to listen to arlo and the girls =
sing the songs i remember...amy sounds as though she is having too much =
fun on a few of these...gotta love their diversity!
sparkie


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tryon, hugo, ada and a few other holes in oklahoma)

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date:         tue, 29 aug 2000 08:43:33 +1000
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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list but since it's not
news i'm forwarding it here instead.  please direct any
replies to denise at denise@zeus.ia.net, not to me,
thanks...

-sherlyn

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date: mon, 28 aug 2000 06:26:15 -0500
from: denise scott <denise@zeus.ia.net>
subject: boots

hi, i am interested in audio boots of the girls.  i have a list for trade
and/or would be more than willing to do the blanks for copies thing if you
are.  my first objective is to get a decent copy of amy ray's "color me
grey" and "problem child".  the ones i have are barely audible! :(    i am
interested in any and all decent tapes floating around out there.  if you
can help me out, please email me privately.  thanks in advance! back to
lurking :)
denise

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