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date:         thu, 14 sep 2000 21:05:18 -0400
reply-to:     mike reynolds <io20742@exploremaine.com>
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subject:      hate crimes bill passes house and i met al gore!(nigc)
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a disability listserv i am on posted that the hate crimes bill passed to
include disability, sexual orientation and race, color, religion, sex,
national origin.

about time.

(i need that boot with laramie on it...yes, i know i procrastinate.)

but - i met al gore yesterday at my old high school and finally (after
having like seen him 2 other places this past year, had a photo of me and
him come out(!). i was also lucky enough to chat with him for a couple of
minutes after the rally as he was passing through a hallway after the major
rally was over - my old principal introduced me - and al signed photos from
the events i took in new hampshire and dc...

psyched


mike reynolds
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date:         thu, 14 sep 2000 21:38:06 edt
reply-to:     rtsimantel@aol.com
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this is the one that joan ozbourne gave for her new online magazine.  she
talks to the girls and susan sarandon about activism.. check it out!

http://www.heroinemag.com./

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date:         thu, 14 sep 2000 21:40:46 edt
reply-to:     emilyraliers@aol.com
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what the heck does someone's reason for doing something terrible have to do
with how we should punish him or her?
have you seen the southpark episode dealing with hate crimes legislation?
it's crude, but makes some good points.  i'm wondering how wise it is to let
the government decide what's in a person's mind and heart and make decisions
based on that.
shouldn't the punishment fit the crime, not the reason for it?

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date:         thu, 14 sep 2000 22:12:04 -0400
reply-to:     jackdavinci@dreamsmithdesigns.com
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1) intent is already a part of the legal process. hence the difference between
"murder" and "manslaughter", etc. premeditation, insanity, carelessness, etc
can all figure into what a defendant is charged with, and also with their
sentencing.

2) hate crimes legislation is about more than just prosecution. statistics on
crime will now include a breakdown of crime based on motivational factors.
studies can be done now, for example, showing whether anti-minority legislation
in certain localities has an effect on increasing hate crimes.

3) even if you argue that police should treat crimes equally regardless of
motiviation, police in many areas do not take crimes against minorities as
seriously as they do crimes against the majority. hate crimes legislation sends
a much needed message that everyone deserves protection under the law.

4) in some sense, hate crimes are not just a crime again one person, they are
also a crime against a whole class of people, and this makes them, in my
opinion, a more serious crime. don't forget that hate crimes include not just
violence, but vandalism, such as hateful graffiti on people's homes and
businesses. having "fag" scrawled all over your house is much worse then a
random graffiti tag.

emilyraliers@aol.com wrote:

> what the heck does someone's reason for doing something terrible have to do
> with how we should punish him or her?
> have you seen the southpark episode dealing with hate crimes legislation?
> it's crude, but makes some good points.  i'm wondering how wise it is to let
> the government decide what's in a person's mind and heart and make decisions
> based on that.
> shouldn't the punishment fit the crime, not the reason for it?

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date:         thu, 14 sep 2000 23:09:10 -0400
reply-to:     sarah pinsker <reinventing1@mindspring.com>
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subject: re: sigc: rockrgrl conference
>from:    lisa071573@aol.com
>
>hey did i already post the details of the rockrgrl conference? i can't
>remember.. anyway, it's nov 2-4 (iirc) and there are ticket details on
>www.rockrgrl.com. amy is one of the keynote speakers...
i suppose it should be noted that amy's girlfriend, journalist/author
jennifer baumgardner, is also a panel participant.
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i haven't seen it mentioned yet, but sonia is another of the performers -
sarah
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date:         fri, 15 sep 2000 00:32:51 edt
reply-to:     sprdinosur@aol.com
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ouch!

hot stuff!!!

good thing my e-mail box isn't made of wood!!!!!

you people are intense......and i guess that's why you're indigo girls fans.

ok, it goes like this.......the reason we're all here is because we are so
filled with passion for these woman that just singing their songs at the top
of our lungs with the windows open and the cd player turned up to 11 isn't
enough. we all have the need to get more info and spill more of our ig guts
to anyone who is willing to listen....and we have tons of people more then
willing. lucky us.

that's why i'm here at least. and i figured that just being here implied the
same, and would allow the benefit of the doubt if something sounded off. at
the least we would all know no harm was meant without need of explanation.

so, to those insulted by what i said...... start a list, because odds are
more are coming

i have no intentions of insulting again, however, i do have all intentions of
posting again, and in my post will not be any self-censoring.

i love the indigo girls. since i was 15 and saw some black and white video on
vh-1 in 1989, i have been a changed man.

>from that point on everything i do as a writer, a musician and an artist is
forged by amy and emily.

the implications that any ill intended message or gesture would be fired from
me towards them is as absurd as a gigantic underground chicken being where
babies come from!

none of us are bigger ig fans then any of us here. we don't have to be more
angry then anyone else at someone else to prove the depths of our loyalties.

i, personally would love to close this thread now. i offer an apology to
those i hurt, but go on record saying you had no reason to be. i am sorry, i
ment no harm.

i offer thanks to those who supported me and i look forward to more great
shared ig memories

joe
brooklyn,ny

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date:         fri, 15 sep 2000 01:06:10 -0700
reply-to:     captain janeway <kinsey921@yahoo.com>
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> none of us are bigger ig fans then any of us here.
> we don't have to be more
> angry then anyone else at someone else to prove the
> depths of our loyalties.

you mean all you guys (and gals) think *you* are the
biggest ig fan too? =)

captain janeway

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date:         fri, 15 sep 2000 07:56:22 edt
reply-to:     carrie knepp <ig4me@hotmail.com>
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>you mean all you guys (and gals) think *you* are the
biggest ig fan too? =)

i know i sure do!!! :)

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date:         fri, 15 sep 2000 08:02:01 edt
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just an fyi for those interested in buying the upcoming re-releases........

i have it on good authority that tower records will give you a new exclusive
5-track cd with the purchase of two of the new re-released cds.   this
exclusive cd will consist of 4 live tracks, taken from the july 28th, 2000,
los angeles, ca house of blues show, as well as an acoustic version of the
wood song.   the re-releases will be priced at $8.99, and the new
retrospective cd will be priced at $13.99.   and this offer will be good for
both "live" and online purchases.

please don't call up the tower records in your area yet for info, as they
probably won't know about it, as usual.    as soon as more details become
available, they will be passed on to me, to pass on to you.

ps - there is a picture of the new retrospective cd on the
www.indigogirlsdirect.com site!

=)
lisa

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date:         fri, 15 sep 2000 08:04:53 -0400
reply-to:     "neil :o)" <neil@andineil.com>
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<<>>you mean all you guys (and gals) think *you* are the
>biggest ig fan too? =)
>
>i know i sure do!!! :)>>

no... _i'm_ the biggest indigo girls fan in the world!!!
i have both their records.

:o)

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ps seriously: no. not the biggest fan. not by a long shot. i'm just a
quality bootleg geek.

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date:         fri, 15 sep 2000 09:09:48 -0400
reply-to:     catherine spinale <catherine.spinale@pmn.com>
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subject:      earth challenge - 2 questions
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hey all:

just 2 questions for ya:

1.  does anyone know what time earth challenge starts and ends or how i can find
out?

2.  how many of you would be interested in meeting for dinner after the event?

we have a small committee working on a  list meet (myself, chee and a local
lurker) and
we would like to get an idea of how many people would be interested in a
gathering afterwards.
i know many of you are travelling from the wake forest show, but we still gotta
eat, right?
i think it would be a lot of fun.

if your interested, please e-mail me privately.

happy weekend
cathy
your friendly assistant ig concierge
(tomorrow - dan fogelberg concert - very excited)

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date:         fri, 15 sep 2000 07:07:16 -0700
reply-to:     jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
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>> what the heck does someone's reason for doing something terrible
have to do with how we should punish him or her?<<

whoa... i gotta respond to this.

example:  you are a person who's significant other is beating them and
you pull a knife and stab them, killing them, though that wasn't your
intention, you were just trying to get away.  i am a person who
deliberately pulls another person from a car and shoots them in the
head at point blank range because they are a different race than i am.

we have both killed someone.  are you saying we should receive the same
punishment?

intent is a huge part of our legal system.  intent is what determines
the nature and severity of the crime and the punishment requested and
levied on a person.  it's the difference between manslaughter, murder
one, murder 2 etc, and the difference between jail for 25 years, jaail
for life and the (wince) death penalty.

hate, along with jealousy, fear, anger, and a million other things is
an intention, and needs to be recognized for the legitimate and very
real threat that it is.

that said, i do share your concern for who decides and how it is
decided what someone's intent is.  the legal system has it's faults and
it is no more above error and corruption than any other governmental
system.  but, imho, that is an entirely different issue.

i would be happy to continue this discussion off-list or on the
off-topic list.

my 2 cents :)

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i have both too!!

1200 curfews, the double cd!!!!!

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at 08:04 am 9/15/2000 -0400, neil :o) wrote:
><<>>you mean all you guys (and gals) think *you* are the
> >biggest ig fan too? =)
> >
> >i know i sure do!!! :)>>
>
>no... _i'm_ the biggest indigo girls fan in the world!!!
>i have both their records.

you mean there's more than one?


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at 08:02 am 9/15/2000 -0400, memememi@aol.com wrote:
>just an fyi for those interested in buying the upcoming re-releases........
>
>i have it on good authority that tower records will give you a new exclusive
>5-track cd with the purchase of two of the new re-released cds.   this
>exclusive cd will consist of 4 live tracks, taken from the july 28th, 2000,
>los angeles, ca house of blues show.


hey! i was there. cool.

although they are probably referring to the pre-show webcast dealie,
i bet...


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reply-to:     "mandy (just mandy)" <eburton@brynmawr.edu>
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subject:      re: re-release special offer from tower records
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> >exclusive cd will consist of
> > 4 live tracks, taken from the july 28th, 2000,
> >los angeles, ca house of blues show.
>
> hey! i was there. cool.
>
> although they are probably referring to the pre-show webcast dealie,
> i bet...

        the webcast was actually the day before, and most of it was
interview; they only played three songs. speaking of which, does anybody
have that archived? i'd really like to see it.
        mandy

                this world falls on me
                with dreams of immortality
                everywhere i turn
                all the beauty just keeps shaking me

                                        *amy ray*

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date:         fri, 15 sep 2000 11:10:27 -0500
reply-to:     sheryl jones <sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu>
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the following tickets are already on sale via ticketmaster

10/11 albuquerque
10/12 denver
10/14 lawrence
10/22 morgantown

happy ticket buying!!


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date:         fri, 15 sep 2000 09:13:34 -0700
reply-to:     carrie pattison <carrie.pattison@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu>
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hi - i am on a quest to obtain promo posters for all of ig's albums, and am
wondering if any of you can give me some sources....  i regularly do the
searches of the major auctions - ebay, yahoo and amazon - but am having a
hard time locating anyone/anyplace that has any posters for the early
releases....  and thanks to the fortunate ones ig archive, i know they
exist!  can anyone help me locate posters for the following releases?
please email me privately if you can help!

indigo girls
strange fire
nomads*indians*saints
back on the bus y'all
1200 curfews
4.5

on the subject of the 4.5 import, i had originally purchased the cd at a
virgin store back in 95 when it was released.  unfortunately, my cd changer
was jammed, and in the course of extracting it, ruined 4.5.  i have been
searching for a new copy that was somewhat reasonably priced for a while,
and last night was able to find a copy at borders!  my collection is
complete again!

carrie (who is still waiting for her copy of latf from igdirect....as well
as for the delivery of my personalized ca license plate with the letters
"ndgogal"-----  someone else had already stolen ndgogls, ndgoglz, ndgogrl,
etc...)

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date:         fri, 15 sep 2000 10:05:40 -0700
reply-to:     michael cunningham <begonias15@yahoo.com>
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hkf's,

> 1.  does anyone know what time earth challenge
> starts and ends or how i can find
> out?

i already e-mailed an address i got from the earth
challenge web-site (www.earthchallenge.org) but i
never got a response back.  i e-mailed them for the
exact times for the musical performances but maybe
someone else can have better luck.  also, it's a
solar-powered festival so using my couple of brain
cells that i have left after last night, me thinks
(imho) that michelle m. will go on around 3pm and then
saliers & ray will go on around 5pm.  how's that
sound?

> 2.  how many of you would be interested in meeting
> for dinner after the event?

sure!  sounds good to me.  i can help in picking
places out.

ps: random nigc sighting.  last night at the bluegrass
party at the brandyhouse in atl (awesome show!) none
other than caroline aiken was boogie-ing along w/ all
the hippies & i thought that was cooler than a
choco-taco!

pss: i can't believed i achieved the 'lurker' status -
yuk!

psss: i love amy & emily

a+e=ig

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date:         fri, 15 sep 2000 17:46:12 gmt
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>no... _i'm_ the biggest indigo girls fan in the world!!!
>i have both their records.

neil, it's good to know i can always count on you for a laugh!

~robbin

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hi,

sorry for the nigc. i thought that i would turn to one of the most
creative groups i know for a little help. my husband is turning thirty in
a couple of weeks and i am searching for something really cool to do for
his bday besides the usual bday stuff (cake, party, etc.). he happens to
also be a huge ig fan (how we met actually) and i would love to do
something truly memorable. it doesn't have to be ig related. does anyone
have any suggestions? i am truly stumped!

thanks in advance!

smiles,
allison

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ok so i was looking at the tower records website in light of the recent
discussion of the cd to come with the re-releases.  so i have a couple of
questions actually.  first so they are releasing their albums again?..all of
them?...and if so...will anything be different about them? (i.e. liners
etc?).  also what is the difference between the re-release and the limited
edition digipack?...which should i order?...should i order any?..will that cd
that was talked about earlier be available just to buy?..without re ordering
cds?...any help would be appreciated here.  thanks y'all..

carla :o)

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date:         fri, 15 sep 2000 16:05:11 -0400
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hi y'all,

sorry for the nigc.
this is for new haven area dar williams fans. i have two extra tickets for
her upcoming show at toad's place (this tuesday, sept. 19th). i will sell
them for less than what i paid (asking $15.00). i need to go out of town
monday morning, so let me know soon if you are interested.

i'm not on a dar list, but if any of you are, could you forward this for
me? i'm in a time crunch. thanks so much,

-sue

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date:         fri, 15 sep 2000 16:43:25 -0400
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a while ago someone posted a great site where you could find out concert
schedule for just about anyone (from ig to lily tomlin). if someone knows
what it is, could they email me privately please?

thanks
--sharon

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does anyone know the url on the site where the interrview actually is? i am
stuck on the front page because i don't have some plugin or other (i have
firewall-plugin issues)


thanks,


larissa


> this is the one that joan ozbourne gave for her new online magazine.  she
> talks to the girls and susan sarandon about activism.. check it out!
>
> http://www.heroinemag.com./
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yeah, i'm their biggest fan too (lol) i have  a bunch of articles posted
on my living room wall,
a framed sst poster that amy and emily personally signed at the mpls
first avenue show autographed all of their epic releases (minus the box
set and the next releases. i see no need to pay the extra money for some
recordings i already have.).  and no, i'm not selling any of the above
items.....so sorry guys and gals.......heh, heh,heh!

barb

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date:         sun, 17 sep 2000 10:04:22 +1000
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hey folks,

here's the latest official ig mailer, for those who
haven't seen it...

-sherlyn

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>date: fri, 15 sep 2000 17:32:45 -0400 (edt)
>from: epic_records@epic-admin.music.sony.com
>subject: indigo girls update
>
>indigo girls fans!
>
>indigo girls are releasing a retrospective cd that arrives
>in stores october 3!  the release is a 16 track career-
>overview that includes two brand new songs (one by amy and
>one by emily), and will coincide with the honor the earth
>tour (see dates below).  come to indigogirlsonline.com
>to get more details!
>
>mark your calendars for september 25 and 26 for an
>exclusive cybercast of the indigo girls' live pre-show
>soundcheck and entire july 27 performance at the house of
>blues in los angeles.  the soundcheck starts at 9pm (est)
>on 9/25 and the live show at 9pm (est) on 9/26.  each is a
>24-hour cybercast so you can be sure and catch both!
>
>check out the new contest from hob.com that's up at the
>site now, and enter to win signed indigo girls posters and
>come on now social cds!
>
>amy and emily will embark on the 2000 honor the earth tour
>for three weeks starting september 30. special guests will
>include joan baez, bonnie raitt, jackson browne and more!
>indigo girls will be performing as an acoustic duo on all
>dates--however one can always expect some 'impromptu'
>jammin' to spark musical magic on stage......
>get all the dates below:
>
>2000 honor the earth tour
>9/30 billings, mt @ shrine auditorium
>10/1 browning, mt @ blackfeet res./rally
>10/2 great falls, mt @ civic theater
>10/3 bozeman, mt @ brick breeden fieldhouse emily saliers (no amy here)
>10/4 missoula @ adams event ctr
>10/6 salt lake city @ u. of utah/huntsman ctr
>10/8 sedona, az @ sedona festival (not honor the earth date)
>10/9 windowrock, az @ windowrock ctr/navajo res
>10/11 albuquerque, nm @ kiva
>10/12 denver, co @ fillmore
>10/13 lawrence, ks political rally @ haskell indian college
>10/14 lawrence, ks @ lied ctr
>10/16 minneapolis @ orpheum
>10/17 chicago @ chicago theatre
>10/18 stevens pt, wi @ u. of wi/quandt fieldhouse
>10/19 menominee, wi @ menominee reservation
>
>following are club or college shows/michelle malone supports:
>10/21 columbus, oh @ newport music hall
>10/22 morgantown, wv @ w.va u/creative arts center
>10/26 boone, nc @ appalachian state u/farthing auditorium
>10/27 winston-salem @ wake forest u/wait chapel
>
>following is earth challenge benefit/festival
>(free and open to public!)
>10/28          atlanta         centennial park
>
>dates are subject to change so stay tuned to:
>http://www.indigogirlsonline.com/?915
>
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>get more great music:
>http://www.epicrecords.com/contests/?ig915
>
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date:         sun, 17 sep 2000 04:22:18 edt
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hey all,

earlier today i discovered that i own an extra power of 2 single (the
commercially released one).  would anyone be interested in a trade (one boot)
for the cd?

:-) karen

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guess everybody's at home, away from the computer.  oh well, have a nice
day everyone.


barb : )

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        okay, so this is reeeeally early. but i don't want anybody to come
crying to me in january saying i didn't give them enough warning. so, with
that in mind, i am pleased to announce that caroline aiken, staple of the
atlanta scene, friend-of-indigo from days of yore, and one hell of a
musician in her own right, will be playing a house concert for us in
philadelphia in, um, february. the third, to be exact. so yes, this is
early. but people, mark your calendars now. you do not want to miss this
woman - especially since she so rarely tours outside of the atlanta area.
she's just an incredible performer. (feel free to jump in any time,
tara... <g>) you can of course email me with questions, either now or
closer to show date - i'll post another reminder in a couple of months,
and you can also track us down on musi-cal.
        happy sunday - enjoy your x-files, everyone :)
        mandy


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                everywhere i turn
                all the beauty just keeps shaking me

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date:         sun, 17 sep 2000 19:16:55 edt
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have any of you checked out the joan osbourne interview with amy and emily? i
read the email about it but i have lost the address. does anyone have it?

betsy

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for the conversation between susan sarandon and ig moderated by joan
osborne, just go to www.heroinemag.com and follow the link.  it's about 40
minutes long, and it dates from the day of the ig concert in central park
(june 13, i think).

ruth

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be careful y'all when you read this...if you have the capability to listen to
it..do..because the letters indicating who is speaking is wrong.  it says
es..when its really amy...and not all the time...so if you wanna know whose
saying what...listen to it..

carla :o)

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can't say much as i have a kitten who insists on being held *awwww* so
happy birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

september 20 ('81) <<-- the big 1-8! :)
cloudyfire@aol.com (rachel)
"i stood without clothes, danced in the sand, i was aching with freedom,
kissing the damned and i said remember this as how it should be..."

september 21 ('76)
tleung@wellesley.edu (therese)
"when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve all the stones
that are cast"

september 21
miss piggy <kinsey921@yahoo.com> (donna)
hero: emily, because she inspires and brings out so
much positivity through her music.
fave album: rites of passage
fave ig concert: sacramento, jan. 98 (acoustic show)

september 22
dawn (avedyke@aol.com)
"we're sorry...the brain you are trying to reach has been disconnected or
is no
longer in service....."

september 22
bethany fleischauer <fleiscbe@sbu.edu>

"i like the way you wanted me
every night for so long baby
and i like the way you needed me
every time things got rocky"
from baby don't break my heart too slow

sept 24 1980
amanda [biodb8er@rocketmail.com]

september 24 (69)
garian vigil


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audra
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heads up!

this is now appearing in local record stores as a 3-cd set for $74.99.
i asked the salesguy where the store got it from, but he didn't have a clue.

grr.

munch


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hi everybody:

can any of you kind friends who live in atlanta
suggest a couple of places close to centennial
park to meet for dinner?  this would be for the
list meet after earth challenge.

i've gotten about 10 responses - most of you are
bringing friends along, so we thinks we'll need a
big place.

your help would be greatly appreciated.

happy monday
cathy

p.s.  i don't how many of you would remember dan fogelberg, but
        my hubby and i went to his show on saturday - he was wonderful.

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> this is now appearing in local record stores as a
> 3-cd set for $74.99.
> i asked the salesguy where the store got it from,
> but he didn't have a clue.

yeah, i saw it too- in a bay area store for $65. btw,
can anyone give me the list of songs on history of us
and the year it was made? thanks...

captain janeway


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hey,
i'm not really sure of any places within close walking distance.  i live down the street from centennial park.  there is a steak house nearby.  but i have heard that is fairly expensive.  the only other suggestion would be the a place at the cnn center.
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<<btw, can anyone give me the list of songs on history of us and
the year it was made? thanks...>>

1995 (i think)
www.andineil.com/indigogirls/bootlegs

should have the details...

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hey everyone,

this is the chicago hte information from the tm website.:

internet onsale date, saturday, sept 23 at noon.

:-) karen

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may i suggest that when any of us sees this illegal and unscrupulous stuff
in record stores that we notify rcam? maybe they could do something to get
it off the shelves and shut down whoever it is profiting from amy and
emily's work.

~robbin

> > this is now appearing in local record stores as a
> > 3-cd set for $74.99.
> > i asked the salesguy where the store got it from,
> > but he didn't have a clue.
>
>yeah, i saw it too- in a bay area store for $65. btw,
>can anyone give me the list of songs on history of us
>and the year it was made? thanks...

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works for me, as long as we don't end up getting neil in trouble in the
process...

-g

robbin love wrote:
>
> may i suggest that when any of us sees this illegal and unscrupulous stuff
> in record stores that we notify rcam? maybe they could do something to get
> it off the shelves and shut down whoever it is profiting from amy and
> emily's work.

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chris imershien, angela beasley and java solis. please email
kmcelveen@agnesscott.edu regarding your hte prizes from last summer's
fundraiser. if these people are no longer on this list, and anyone still
keeps in touch via email, please let them know to contact me for their
prize. thank you!

and thank you again to all you list members who made the hte tour 2000
possible!!

kristen mcelveen
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would kimberly latimer and elizabeth hayes please email me asap?

thanks -
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sorry to bug everyone with this, but will sherlyn or someone please send =
me the addy to subscribe to the news only list?
i'm getting a little swamped with email lately, so it would be much =
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hey all,

what an incredible weekend!!!

it started friday night at coffee bean cafe where an overflow crowd was
treated to one of the most emotional nights of music i've ever experienced,
as many of western new york's songwriting elite turned out to bid farewell
to one of our own, jessica grant, who is leaving next week for portland, or.
(west coast listees, remember that name - jess is an awe-inspiring writer -
and i don't awe easily....)

the night started with joe lamay, in from rochester, minus his musical
partner sherry reese.  joe had everyone in stitches with a song about being
in love with his best friend, a drag queen....

i played next - one of the most intense sets of music i've ever performed -
the crowd was extremely responsive, which always takes my music to greater
heights.  i also had the unexpected pleasure of singing a couple of songs
with aerin tedesco, who was in town from chicago and had stayed an extra day
in order to attend the farewell concert.

mike maffei and kim kerns followed with a solid set of harmonized acoustic
folk.  mike, a 10 year survivor of aids, plans on recording a cd this fall
with a veritable who's who of buffalo musicians, including myself on guitar.

katie miller played next, accompanied by the multi-talented leah zicari on
electric bass - katie premiered a number of new songs and brought down the
house with a great, rambling soc during movie screen.  (both katie and leah
guest on slow ridin' on my outside - looking in cd; leah's own cd is
unfortunately still in record company limbo.  i'll be creating a site for
her on mp3.com when it's finally released....)

jess played last, accompanied by scott on bass.  she also premiered a few
new songs in a set that was altogether too short considering the vast number
of moving songs she's written.  we did succeed in getting her to play a
couple more as an encore, before embarking on a lengthy series of
goodbyes.....

sunday afternoon marked another significant event in buffalo music history,
as the blues room at the lafayette hotel played host to women in blues, a 5
hour concert, perhaps the first of its kind anywhere, that featured an
impressive array of local talent, headlined by surprise guest joanna connor.
the show was the brainchild of my friend jackie lobuglio, bassist for the
blues rock band ethyl, and raised over $1000.00 for the music in schools
program.....

here are some links to pertinent articles from the gusto section of last
friday's buffalo news....

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20000915/1002674.asp

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20000915/1019586.asp

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20000915/1019920.asp

joanna connor was outstanding, playing some of the wickedest slide licks
this side of elmore james and trading solos with keybaordist annie
phillippone and an amazing oriental sax player, tomoka namura....

an unexpected highlight was my friend, singer-songwriter tina crapsi singing
'middle-aged blues' (if tina's middle-aged, i'm freakin' ancient - no
comments please) and rocking out on da bluz from her new cd, call it what
you want, which segued into ray charles' hit the road jack....

the quality of the music was such that 5 hours passed in what seemed like
half the time.  i had the distinct honor of being one of only three men
asked to play (it came as a total surprise - i had to borrow suzanne
switzer's guitar) during local legend barbara st claire's closing set,
trading blues licks with annie on barbara's version of etta james' sweet
little angel :)

i really do have some great friends!

peace,
tim
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maybe i'm a dufas, but what is rcam?
--- graham ames <mcgee@oregontrail.net> wrote:
> works for me, as long as we don't end up getting
> neil in trouble in the
> process...
>
> -g
>
> robbin love wrote:
> >
> > may i suggest that when any of us sees this
> illegal and unscrupulous stuff
> > in record stores that we notify rcam? maybe they
> could do something to get
> > it off the shelves and shut down whoever it is
> profiting from amy and
> > emily's work.
>
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russell carter artist management
>
> maybe i'm a dufas, but what is rcam?
> --- graham ames <mcgee@oregontrail.net> wrote:
> > works for me, as long as we don't end up getting
> > neil in trouble in the
> > process...
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> > -g
> >
> > robbin love wrote:
> > >
> > > may i suggest that when any of us sees this
> > illegal and unscrupulous stuff
> > > in record stores that we notify rcam? maybe they
> > could do something to get
> > > it off the shelves and shut down whoever it is
> > profiting from amy and
> > > emily's work.
> >
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from mein's news page
(http://www.melissaetheridge.com/melissa/news/index.html):

joint statement from
melissa etheridge and julie cypher
with the utmost of love and respect for one another, we have
decided to separate.

as committed parents, our top priority continues to be what
is in the best interest of our children.

though elements of our lives will change, our family will always
remain intact.

melissa etheridge
julie cypher

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what store?  i'm at borders & we've heard nothing...hmmm.....

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damn. i'm not even a huge melissa fan or anything, but this just makes
me sad.


indigokat@aol.com wrote:

> from mein's news page
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>
> joint statement from
> melissa etheridge and julie cypher
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> decided to separate.
>
> as committed parents, our top priority continues to be what
> is in the best interest of our children.
>
> though elements of our lives will change, our family will always
> remain intact.
>
> melissa etheridge
> julie cypher
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i'm not a huge fan either....but that is sad.  i hope they are serious about
the top priority being the kids.  does anyone know how old the kids are??


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damn. i'm not even a huge melissa fan or anything, but this just makes
me sad.


indigokat@aol.com wrote:

> from mein's news page
> (http://www.melissaetheridge.com/melissa/news/index.html):
>
> joint statement from
> melissa etheridge and julie cypher
> with the utmost of love and respect for one another, we have
> decided to separate.
>
> as committed parents, our top priority continues to be what
> is in the best interest of our children.
>
> though elements of our lives will change, our family will always
> remain intact.
>
> melissa etheridge
> julie cypher
>
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frist ellen and now this... are there any other famous lesbian couples
out there?

kristen curry wrote:

> damn. i'm not even a huge melissa fan or anything, but this just makes
> me sad.

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i think one of the reasons it's particularly disheartening is, according to
some statistic i read somewhere, lesbians have the shortest average time in
committed relationships of anybody. i guess somebody has to have the
shortest average time, but still, at 2.5 years, that's pretty darn brief.

on the other hand... hasn't emily been with her partner for 5 years? so a
little place for optimism and the indigo girls (not personal stuff... uh...
just statistical stuff. like a batting average or something).

kc

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> kristen curry wrote:
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> > damn. i'm not even a huge melissa fan or anything, but this just makes
> > me sad.
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> i think one of the reasons it's particularly disheartening is, according
to
> some statistic i read somewhere, lesbians have the shortest average time
in
> committed relationships of anybody. i guess somebody has to have the
> shortest average time, but still, at 2.5 years, that's pretty darn brief.

my girlfriend and i have been together 19 years.  still no end in sight :-)

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that is so awesome!!!  good for you!!
one day, maybe i will be lucky enough!


dana

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> i think one of the reasons it's particularly disheartening is, according
to
> some statistic i read somewhere, lesbians have the shortest average time
in
> committed relationships of anybody. i guess somebody has to have the
> shortest average time, but still, at 2.5 years, that's pretty darn brief.

my girlfriend and i have been together 19 years.  still no end in sight :-)

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woo hoo! thanks for brightening my day, you curve buster, you!
cheers and congratulations :-)

kc

sheryl jones wrote:

> > i think one of the reasons it's particularly disheartening is, according
> to
> > some statistic i read somewhere, lesbians have the shortest average time
> in
> > committed relationships of anybody. i guess somebody has to have the
> > shortest average time, but still, at 2.5 years, that's pretty darn brief.
>
> my girlfriend and i have been together 19 years.  still no end in sight :-)
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i should have clarified the term "local," i guess. the record store i saw
the boots in was a local, independent record store. i don't really think of
borders as "local," rather i consider it to be a national chain.  i
certainly hope the boots don't show up there!

munch


on tue, 19 sep 2000 12:18:22 edt, ellenjaymes@aol.com wrote:

>  what store?  i'm at borders & we've heard nothing...hmmm.....


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hey all. long time no post for me...swapped at werk.....i just wanted to say two
things on this matter...

first off, statistics can be extremely misleading, even though i love statics! i
only say that b/c in this instance, comparing a 'straight' couple and a gay
couple is like comparing a girrafe and a mouse. (im sick of the apples/oranges
comparison so i made one up!) a relationship is amazing, but the reality is a lot
of work.  it is hard enough for a man and a woman to have a healthy, lasting
relationship, and thats with out added pressures from our society as a whole.
being gay/lesbian, you have all the hard work that straight couples do and the
dealings of soooo many other factors; like religion, society, parents, (family)
job security/bennifits, etc etc. being a homosexual is just plain difficult at
times, although its gettin much better.  many struggle (esp teens) immensly to
life a productive life, many more struggle w/ being gay and for some alot of not
so great stuff that comes along with that, and then to be in a reationship can be
anything but easy. i'm just saying...life is hard....then the more challenging
issues that arise on top of that makes things even more of struggle,
sometimes.... gay or straight, realtionships are work (w/ tons of love!!:), add
any outside struggles and its even more work. ...............

that may be one reason for that statistic....i don't know if any of that made
sense...i am deeply in love w/ my gf w/ whom ive been w/ for almost three years.
both of our families and friends are extremely supportive, but i have another
good friend who married her gf and had a wonderful wedding, and niether of the
parents were there. i am very lucky!..........

.last but not least, i just hope this doesn't make all the anti-gays anything ppl
all excited and start pointg their fingers saying 'see..gays can't have children,
they can't stay together, they can't be a family.'  .....grrrrrrr...gays and
lesbians may have a split up raio thats higher to straight realionships, but.....
the divorce rate in this country is astronumical...i believe it is atlast 50%,
but it may be more. ..........ok ok....im shuttin up now...just my scattered
thoughts as usual.....have a wonderful day......

cara

kristen curry wrote:

> woo hoo! thanks for brightening my day, you curve buster, you!
> cheers and congratulations :-)
>
> kc
>
> sheryl jones wrote:
>
> > > i think one of the reasons it's particularly disheartening is, according
> > to
> > > some statistic i read somewhere, lesbians have the shortest average time
> > in
> > > committed relationships of anybody. i guess somebody has to have the
> > > shortest average time, but still, at 2.5 years, that's pretty darn brief.
> >
> > my girlfriend and i have been together 19 years.  still no end in sight :-)
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that would seem to defeat the common stereotypes about gay and lesbian
relationships - as in the joke:

what do lesbians do on a second date? move in.
what do gay men do on a second date? what's a second date?

jack

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> i think one of the reasons it's particularly disheartening is, according to
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> committed relationships of anybody. i guess somebody has to have the
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> trouble is, you cannot rely on statistics.  they are not accurate because not
> every lesbian couple is out or wants to be.  they get missed in these sorts of
> things.  i know of couples who have been together for 10 years or more as
> well.  while there are certainly going to be different pressures on a couple
> like melissa and julie because they are, to some extent, public people, they
> also still have the same day to day issues, and not every couple survies
> those, no matter their orientation.  it's just a sad reality.  all we can
> really do is wish them the best in their new lives.
>
> amy
>
> kristen curry wrote:
>
> > i think one of the reasons it's particularly disheartening is, according to
> > some statistic i read somewhere, lesbians have the shortest average time in
> > committed relationships of anybody. i guess somebody has to have the
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> >
> > on the other hand... hasn't emily been with her partner for 5 years? so a
> > little place for optimism and the indigo girls (not personal stuff... uh...
> > just statistical stuff. like a batting average or something).
> >
> > kc

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yeah, it does not align with the steriotype at all, actually. men who decide to
enter into committed relationships seem to hang in there longer - statistically
(with all the caveats that working with statistics imply...).

i agree with what another poster indicated, by the way. that one of the things
that takes a massive tole on les/bi/gay/trans community is the on-going
external/societal pressure.

my relationship is common knowlege at work, and this is a very supportive work
environment, but that doesn't change the fact that it's one thing to be known as
les/bi/gay/trans and it's another thing to take your partner to the christmas
party or the company picnic. that's real and that very often bumps up against
peoples' biases even in the most supportive of environments.

oh, and sorry folks. i just realized i'd been sending my email card along
attached - appologies!

kc

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>
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>
> jack
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> > i think one of the reasons it's particularly disheartening is, according to
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how about...
what do lesbians bring to a second date? a u-haul.
what do gay men bring to a second date? what second date?

:::snerk:::

(alright guys, i know, i know. it's not fair at all. dope slap me. i deserve
it!!!)
kc

jon griffin wrote:

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> jack
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this is a very good point kristin made. i am very sorry to hear that melissa and
julie broke up, as i always am when friends or people in the media breakup, and
i hope things are going smoothly as possible for them. i admit i will be very
interested to see if this brings forth any sort of public discussion of lesbian
custodial issues. my best friend's son was taken by his biological mom and his
non-bio mom rarely gets to see him and she has no recourse. i can only
hope/assume that julie and melissa will be able to work things out well, but it
will be interesting to watch, nonetheless. and maybe, just maybe, it might make
people thing about it a little bit.

-larissa


>
>i agree with what another poster indicated, by the way. that one of the things
>that takes a massive tole on les/bi/gay/trans community is the on-going
>external/societal pressure.

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larissa brown wrote:
very
> interested to see if this brings forth any sort of public discussion of lesbian
> custodial issues.

perhaps.  most likely public discussion will ensue, but given how
private the couple has been in the past, it is not likely that any
public discussion by them will be forthcoming.

i thought i read somewhere that mle adopted both children - if so she
has the same legal rights as the biological mom, no?  besides, they
sound so very committed to the children.  i'd be really surprised if
negative custodial issues arose.

elaine

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michelle was on acoustic cafe last week.  if you missed it, you can catch it
online at:

http://www.mlive.com/cafe/index.ssf?/cafe/stories/20000911malone.frm

maybe someone will tape it....

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<<first off, statistics can be extremely misleading, even though
i love statics!>>

of course, 88.36532% of all statistics are completely made up.

and without a reference or context, the 2.5 year one might just
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another celebrity lesbian couple is calling it quits.

rocker melissa etheridge and her girlfriend, director julie cypher, announced tuesday they were ending                 their relationship after 12 years. the couple has two small children together.

"with the utmost of love and respect for one another, we have decided to separate," the couple announced in a statement released by etheridge's label, island records.

"as committed parents, our top priority continues to be what is in the best interest of our children. though elements of our lives will change, our family will
always remain intact."

etheridge and cypher were one of hollywood's most famous lesbian couples, after ellen degeneres and ann heche, who announced their breakup last month.

cypher gave birth to the couple's 3-year-old daughter and 1-year-old son. in january, they revealed to rolling stone magazine that rock legend david crosby
was the children's biological father, donating the
sperm so the couple could conceive through artificial insemination.

etheridge's publicist, sheila richman, told the associated press that the couple would not discuss custody issues or any other details of the split.

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ya know it is disheartening that this happens. i am saddened. not just because of the pain in their lives ( i think anyway) but because after ellen and anne the d#$@ tabloids and even the radio and tv media jumped on it like it was something of the highest priority......and most often it was done in bad taste with sick jokes or rather mean ones attached.
a local station here in phx made me so upset over their banter about it that i wrote a ( well written and worded) email as well as calling the gm of the station.

i guess it is sad to me because i know the general media sources will hit  this and do their darndest to degrade the lifestyle. and kinda as typical....no one will mention the couples that had been together 19 years ( congrats hon) and even longer....

once again only the negative is highlighted.
of course perhaps they will surprise me and not do this....but...i ain't holding my breath.....sparkie

loralei riney
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some how i figure the media realm will still make its business to destroy the lifestyle even more than they regularly do...despite if they have led a relatively quite life.

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hi y'all,
     > i think one of the reasons it's particularly disheartening is,
according
to
> some statistic i read somewhere, lesbians have the shortest average time
in
> committed relationships of anybody. i guess somebody has to have the
> shortest average time, but still, at 2.5 years, that's pretty darn brief.

  >my girlfriend and i have been together 19 years.  still no end in sight :-)

     i don't know where they get these statistics, because my girlfriend and
i have been together 17 years and counting and nobody has ever asked us such
a question to put in a survey.  i think they take these numbers from the
people who are in the bar scene or somewhere out in public to meet someone or
make connections.  there are plenty of us out here quietly living our lives.
i know quite a few couples myself.
:-)
kim
(ps how many of you think this statistic, if it is somewhat accurate, would
be changed with some sort of marriage possibility like the civil union of
vermont?)

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actually, i think any statistic measuring stability would improve with the
availability of civil marriage. social/legal contracts are powerful documents and
imply powerful cultural acknowlegement. personally, i think that can make a
difference.

kc


>
> kim
> (ps how many of you think this statistic, if it is somewhat accurate, would
> be changed with some sort of marriage possibility like the civil union of
> vermont?)

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how  sad. it's bad enough when people separate but when kids are involved it
is a whole different ballgame. having 3 kids (3 yr old and twins 2 yrs old)
with my partner of 14 years i can relate to the kids point of view. did
society make it so hard for their parents to stay together? wouldn't that be
the biggest shame of all. would being able to legally marry and have all of
the benefits included with that have helped their family?

kids can really strain a relationship as it is often hard to turn off "mom"
and turn on "sexy, romantic partner". i hope they can work things out for the
sake of their kids. after all, if they can stay together for 13 there must be
something there.

ever the optimist,
lisa

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i'm not sure i buy it.  maybe i'm just too cynical but have you looked at
the statistics for divorce rates these days among heterosexuals?  something
like half of all marriages end in divorce.  as far as i know there is no
data yet on homosexual marriages.

chris m. wilson

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> would being able to legally marry and have all of
> the benefits included with that have helped their family?

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> hit this and do their darndest to degrade the lifestyle. and kinda as
> typical....no one will mention the couples that had been together 19
> years ( congrats hon) and even longer....

        the thing is, though, that the man does this all the time, with
statistics of all stripes. heterosexual marriages are shown to be falling
apart for the convenience of the religious right all the time. not that
this isn't an especially crackheaded statistic... just that they all are.

        mandy,
        looking forward to seeing "is lesbianism dead?" on the cover of
time magazine. not.


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is it possibler somebody with all the promos etc, decided to do a indigo
girls b-sides comp, *independent* of neil's set (and oh boy, neil does make
his stuff well, neil, i still love the 2 tracy discs i never sent you
anything for - yet - well, that mp3, but does that count? err. sorry, new
meds.)
make a 3 cd set - i have seen b-side collections on ebay and the b-sides are
not hard to compile via mp3, ect.

u2 has like a 12 cdr set or just b-sides out (and i *really* want the vol. 1
of this - the greatest hits collection with the bonus cd missed several
songs that were b-sides.)

mike r.


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in a message dated 9/19/00 6:19:41 pm eastern daylight time,
loralei.riney@bannerhealth.com writes:

<< ya know it is disheartening that this happens. i am saddened. not just
because of the pain in their lives ( i think anyway) but because after ellen
and anne the d#$@ tabloids and even the radio and tv media jumped on it like
it was something of the highest priority......and most often it was done in
bad taste with sick jokes or rather mean ones attached. >>


gotta say,
as a member of the media.. the breakup didn't make "news" at least here
anyway until anne had her little moment in fresno.
not to say that the media can't jump all over something and have a field day
with it.. but the things that happened in fresno are why most of the media
even covered that story..

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the interesting thing is although there is a greater divorce rate than in
the past, the average *length* of marriages is remaining the same or
increasing. the only reasons marriages didnt break up in the past is because
people didn't live as long.

jack

"mandy (just mandy)" wrote:

>    the thing is, though, that the man does this all the time, with
> statistics of all stripes. heterosexual marriages are shown to be falling
> apart for the convenience of the religious right all the time. not that
> this isn't an especially crackheaded statistic... just that they all are.

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well, don't be too disheartened. we may not be famous but my wife and i are
still going strong after 5.5 years and we don't see an end in sight...

ryan

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> i think one of the reasons it's particularly disheartening is,
> according to
> some statistic i read somewhere, lesbians have the shortest
> average time in
> committed relationships of anybody. i guess somebody has to have the
> shortest average time, but still, at 2.5 years, that's pretty darn brief.

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mike reynolds wrote:

> u2 has like a 12 cdr set or just b-sides out (and i *really* want the vol. 1
> of this - the greatest hits collection with the bonus cd missed several
> songs that were b-sides.)

no, actually, some pirate out there is making money using u2's music to
create this cd-r set, but there is no actual release by u2 which fits
the description you give.

gotta get the terminology right if you're going to talk about the game.

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well, it depends on what you consider the past.  many a bad marriage endured
in the pre-women's lib era ( and a lesser number still do, i'm sure) because
many 'housewives' were bound to a form of economic servitude or were
physically intimidated.

i can personally attest that growing up in an often hostile domestic climate
carries with it a hefty price.

tim

> the interesting thing is although there is a greater divorce rate than in
> the past, the average *length* of marriages is remaining the same or
> increasing. the only reasons marriages didnt break up in the past is
because
> people didn't live as long.
>
> jack

shouldn't the paragraph below have read "homosexual marriages"????

>
> "mandy (just mandy)" wrote:
>
> >    the thing is, though, that the man does this all the time, with
> > statistics of all stripes. heterosexual marriages are shown to be
falling
> > apart for the convenience of the religious right all the time. not that
> > this isn't an especially crackheaded statistic... just that they all
are.

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've always thought about this.  i remember talking about sexuality in
psychology classes.  it was suggested that gay women are very monogomous,
and dedicated solely to their partner, sexually and mentally.  it was
also suggested that gay men are very promiscuois.  also, that human
sexuality is not for reproduction.   what if sexuality is really not as
concrete as most would like to think?  homosexual or heterosexual?  aside
from gender issues and which gender we most identify with, what if our
sexuality is wavering and not so set in its ways?   also, what if you
have two women who are so in sync with one another that they both see
their relationship as a hinderance for both instead of a blessing?  i
think for sure that this would be a great argument for homosexual
weddings.  b/c it is a blessing, and sometimes no matter how smart and in
tune we think we are, we do have weaknesses.  without getting too
jesusified, i really think that we do need acceptance from jesus to feel
worthy.

i do think gay women are special in their relationships with other women
and men.  in a heterosexual relationship, when sexuality becomes an issue
to the curious woman, she may find release in another woman.  the man may
or may not find out, but if he does, he more than likely won't care b/c
he's not biologically threatened by the other woman.  a break up is less
likely here unless the woman leaves him.  on the flip side though in a
homosexual relationship, when curiousity becomes an isssue, it's
respected and more than likely blown out of proportion.  i just think
sexuality means much more to women.  it's intertwined with thoughts of
religion, child bearing, politics, nature, and truely understanding
yourself.  it's more about trying to understand "why" and i know that
some homosexual women are not like this in their relationship, but i have
experienced it for myself.  i have seen women break up b/c they respect
their partner so much that they want them to go out and find themselves
at all costs at the hope of them coming back enlightened.   a janis
joplin song comes to my mind:  "ball and chain".

i'm not going to say so or not, but i know a woman who cheated on her
girlfriend while her girlfriend was pregnant.  she said that it was tough
to go home all fired up and so just to see her girlfriend carrying
somebody else's baby.  she had to cheat.  her girlfriend never found out,
and thus they're still together.


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i'm peeking my head out just a tad to add a little to this conversation...

concerning the statistics that report the average lesbian relationship lasts
merely 2.5 years, i think every one has raised some interesting and
legitimate points.  (who conducted and participated in these surveys? etc.,
etc., etc.)  to compare these statistics, or to compare the longevity of a
homosexual relationship, to its heterosexual counterpart is
impossible...unless the survey questioned only non-married heterosexuals.  i
mean, well, i really don't have any evidence to back this up, but i would
guess that the average het. relationship, which does not result in marriage,
doesn't last too much longer than the "2.5 years" they've allotted to us
lesbians. <smirk>  it'd be quite interesting to see how the two (non-married
straight, and non-unionized homosexual) really compare...until then, i
suppose we'll all have to endure the not-so-pretty pictures of "the
homosexual lifestyle" that are being splatter-painted across the headlines.
if anyone would like to discuss this further, i'd love to e-mail privately. =)
take care.      *heather*

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this whole thread reminds me of an old saying: "figures don't lie, but liars
can figure...."

surveys such as this one suck - real lives cannot be reduced to the lowest
common denominator....

stereotyping sucks....

as long as society persists in placing people in arbitrary categories based
on perception and innuendo, those who find love outside the mainstream will
continue to suffer.....

it is society's schizoid preoccupation with sex that is the root of the
disease - not so-called sexual orientations....

if two people are deeply in love for a period of days, months, weeks or
years, and changing circumstances intervene, does that make the love that
they shared any less real?

philosophically yours,
tim
http://www.mp3.com/timbaldwin


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> i'm peeking my head out just a tad to add a little to this conversation...
>
> concerning the statistics that report the average lesbian relationship
lasts
> merely 2.5 years, i think every one has raised some interesting and
> legitimate points.  (who conducted and participated in these surveys?
etc.,
> etc., etc.)  to compare these statistics, or to compare the longevity of a
> homosexual relationship, to its heterosexual counterpart is
> impossible...unless the survey questioned only non-married heterosexuals.
i
> mean, well, i really don't have any evidence to back this up, but i would
> guess that the average het. relationship, which does not result in
marriage,
> doesn't last too much longer than the "2.5 years" they've allotted to us
> lesbians. <smirk>  it'd be quite interesting to see how the two
(non-married
> straight, and non-unionized homosexual) really compare...until then, i
> suppose we'll all have to endure the not-so-pretty pictures of "the
> homosexual lifestyle" that are being splatter-painted across the
headlines.
> if anyone would like to discuss this further, i'd love to e-mail
privately. =)
> take care.      *heather*

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did anyone else see the john hancock commercial last night during the
olympics?  the one with the two women bringing home their new baby?  i
thought it was great!  i'm glad that they were able to air it.

mi rinda

"there are plenty of people who pray for peace, but if prayer were enough it
would have come to be.  let your words enslave no one and the heavens will
hush themselves to hear our voices ring out clear with sounds of freedom." -
jewel

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the honor the earth website has recently been updated.=20

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(unnamed) song, a picture gallery from the 1997 hte tour, and a new =
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and (eerily enough) a lot like my younger sister.)

i just had time to take a quick peak at the site, but another cool item =
is an online version of the "support" postcard that they typically =
distribute and collect at the hte concerts.

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on wed, 20 sep 2000, kovacs, mirinda wrote:

> did anyone else see the john hancock commercial last night during the
> olympics?  the one with the two women bringing home their new baby?  i
> thought it was great!  i'm glad that they were able to air it.

   that was really neat, as was the ibm akhi spencer-el commercial.  (of
course, being a fencer, i'm not-too-biased...)
   peter westbrook is a shining example of the best kind of person, in or
out of sports, and even if i didn't fence, i'd still consider him a role
model.

   http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2000/08/hull.htm

   darius

"well lately i've been standing out in the freezing rain
readin' them want ads out on chelsea road
i'm winging down the street in search of new games
hustling through these nightlights' diamond glow..."
   - bruce springsteen, "frankie"

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well i am very very depressed about melissa and julie :(  i just loved them
together.. they were always so cute and happy together.. *sigh*  and they
just recently did the advocate cover together regarding same-sex marriage and
everything... :( :( :(

ok well i still need people to come to my house concert on sunday for allette
brooks so if you're anywhere near gilroy ca please please please come! i am
starting to panic that i won't have an audience! so e-mail me...

lisa

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on wed, 20 sep 2000, kovacs, mirinda wrote:

> did anyone else see the john hancock commercial last night during the
> olympics?  the one with the two women bringing home their new baby?  i
> thought it was great!  i'm glad that they were able to air it.
>

i thought this commercial was fantastic. not to mention the other john
hancock commercials that are sort of similar. but, i also heard that john
hancock got a lot of nasty feedback (of course) after this commercial
showed during the olympic trials, i believe it was. obviously, they
haven't given in to the pressure and good for them, but to voice your
support, go to www.jhancock.com and click on how to reach us.

amy m.

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dag nabbit!!!!! i whish the girls and ani were on that bill....all thos
gals are phenominal (cyndi lauper??), but the girls and ani defenitly
belong on that list!! have a wonderful day all! below is a news bit on
this event!

cara


concert to benefit breast cancer research

           (launch) - wynonna judd, amy grant, sheryl crow, melissa
etheridge, heart and cyndi lauper
           have signed on to participate in lifetime network's "women
rock: girls and guitars" concert on
           oct. 12 in l.a. the special will air oct. 22 and will feature
performances and collaborations
           between all artists and will help raise money for the
national alliance of breast cancer
           organizations and the national breast cancer coalition.
additional performers are expected to be
           added to the lineup in the coming weeks.

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>>it is society's schizoid preoccupation with sex that is the root of
the disease - not so-called sexual orientations....<<

very interesting observation, tim.

>>if two people are deeply in love for a period of days, months, weeks
or years, and changing circumstances intervene, does that make the love

that they shared any less real?<<

to quote our girls:  "so what is love then, is it dictated or chosen?
does it sing like the hymns of 1000 years or is it just pop emotion?
and if it was ever here and it left does it mean it was never true..."


personally, as someone that falls in love with people almost every day
of my life, i can't imagine that any significant relationship, from a
moment to eternity is insignificant.

jean


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on this note did anyone see the coke commercial which showed a line up if you will of couples, one kissing the other, now granted most were couples of heterosexual nature( one male one female) but there was one couple, a cute blonde being kissed by an asian american....it was very subtle but it made me smile to think that they did it.

granted it may not mean anything...but to me i thought vivat!  sparkie

>>> hicktruckdriver <dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> 09/20/00 07:41am >>>
on wed, 20 sep 2000, kovacs, mirinda wrote:

> did anyone else see the john hancock commercial last night during the
> olympics?  the one with the two women bringing home their new baby?  i
> thought it was great!  i'm glad that they were able to air it.

   that was really neat, as was the ibm akhi spencer-el commercial.  (of
course, being a fencer, i'm not-too-biased...)
   peter westbrook is a shining example of the best kind of person, in or
out of sports, and even if i didn't fence, i'd still consider him a role
model.

   http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2000/08/hull.htm

   darius

"well lately i've been standing out in the freezing rain
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i'm winging down the street in search of new games
hustling through these nightlights' diamond glow..."
   - bruce springsteen, "frankie"

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ryan blackhawk wrote:  well, don't be too disheartened. we may not be famous
but my wife and i are
still going strong after 5.5 years and we don't see an end in sight"
congrats, my wifey-thing and i are going on 6 years and we too see no end in
sight.  we're even closer since the 2 breakups.  we've discussed it alot and
realize that if you want something to last forever, you have to really want
it.  obviously something went really wrong for both anne & ellen and melissa
& julie.  it's unfortunate, but all i can say is that su and i are still
together, and very much in love, and that's what matters to me!
congrats to everyone who's been in a long time relationship...gay or
otherwise!
deb

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<<
did anyone else see the john hancock commercial last night during the
olympics?  the one with the two women bringing home their new baby?  i
thought it was great!  i'm glad that they were able to air it. >>
    yeah, i saw it! i read that it aired during the gymastics trials from
boston earlier in the summer, but with a slightly different finish. one woman
said something like, "you'll be a great mom." and the other one replied, "so
will you." someone got squeamish that people would focus too much on the
couple and not on the baby -- and not on john hancock. oh, well, still a
groundbreaker!
deb

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hey all! just thought id share! this is a pretty nifty little article
from pollstar.com . (by the way, i am extremely greatful to whomever on
this list first mentioned that site! i signed up from various artists
and i get an email anytime any of them have concerts and stuff!!! i love
it! thank u, whoever posted the info about it!) here is the little tid
bit!! it looks like our incredible girls are gaining quite massive
support from more artists in their efforts to raise more awareness and
participation in so many areas!! have a superific day!

cara

honor the earth roster grows
                 updated 05:54 pdt fri, sep 15 2000

                 amy ray and emily saliers - the indigo girls - have
                 made native american issues their own for many
                 years, backing up their support with more than 45
                 benefit concerts for the honor the earth campaign
                 since 1993.
                     they are adding to that total this fall and
                 bringing along a few friends - like bonnie raitt,
                 jackson browne, david crosby, dar williams,
                 shawn mullins, indigenous and special guest joan
                 baez.
                     the lineup for each show will vary, with baez
                 appearing through october 3 and raitt through
                 october 6, after which browne takes the stage.
                     the outing launches september 30 at the
                 shrine in billings, mont., - the first of a handful of
                 shows in montana - and travels through the west
                 and midwest, including stops at some native
                 american reservations along the way.
                     the tour winds down october 19 at the
                 menominee reservation in menominee, wisc.
                     honor the earth - which counts buffalo
                 protection and restoration among its prime projects
                 - reports that state and federal officials have killed
                 more than 2,500 buffalo outside yellowstone
                 national park over the last four years.
                     the indigo girls have raised more than $465,000
                 over the years for the group, which has distributed
                 grants to 65 native american groups for
                 environmental defense, sacred land protections and
                 restoration of sustainable communities.
                     "as non-indians, we cannot sit by silently and
                 watch the continued destruction of native
                 communities," the indigo girls said in an open
                 letter. "the basic issues of human rights, justice
                 and our own survival are ultimately at stake."
                     in addition to the honor the earth benefits, the
                 indigo girls will stay on the road through the end of
                 october, stopping at a number of colleges. the tour
                 coincides with the october 3 release of a 16-track
                 indigo girls collection titled a retrospective.

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yup, my husband and i are on 6+ years and still going strong.

traci drago
st. louis, mo
also at n_d_go@hotmail.com

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        not me, sadly. a friend asked me to post this to the list... i
guess she knows where to find the people with the answers. :) if you have
anything to tell her, please reply to her and not to me.
        mandy


"heya, all!  i'm going to atlanta for the first time this
week with my partner, and was wondering whether
listees could recommend fun, cool, and/or romantic
things to do/places to eat there.  i'm especially
interested in romantic outings.  i'll be there from
thursday, 9/21 - monday morning, 9/25.  any
suggestions?  please send replies to
ig-fan@musician.org.

many thanks!"

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idea:
go see melissa ferrick perform at my sister's room in decatur on friday
the 22nd at 8pm. (www.war.com/ferrick)

this suggestion has been sent to the whole board b/c melissa deserves a
sold-out show.


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in a message dated wed, 20 sep 2000 12:45:07 pm eastern daylight time, loralei riney <loralei.riney@bannerhealth.com> writes:

<< on this note did anyone see the coke commercial which showed a line up if you will of couples, one kissing the other, now granted most were couples of heterosexual nature( one male one female) but there was one couple, a cute blonde being kissed by an asian american....it was very subtle but it made me smile to think that they did it.

granted it may not mean anything...but to me i thought vivat!  sparkie

we saw that one over the weekend.. and our only question was what the **** did it have to do with coke!!???

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the only thing i could think of was the old 1970's coke commercials where they go singing..." we'd like to teach the world to sing" ya know the happier better place...

>>> <tunegal4@aol.com> 09/20/00 12:08pm >>>
in a message dated wed, 20 sep 2000 12:45:07 pm eastern daylight time, loralei riney <loralei.riney@bannerhealth.com> writes:

<< on this note did anyone see the coke commercial which showed a line up if you will of couples, one kissing the other, now granted most were couples of heterosexual nature( one male one female) but there was one couple, a cute blonde being kissed by an asian american....it was very subtle but it made me smile to think that they did it.

granted it may not mean anything...but to me i thought vivat!  sparkie

we saw that one over the weekend.. and our only question was what the **** did it have to do with coke!!???

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does an accoustic version of any of amy and emily's work exist? if so, how would i go about getting it? would it be bootlegged? i have heard them do some accoustic stuff in concert and i thought it was great. i would appreciate anyone's assistance in helping me get of copy.

betsy

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and go early because she puts on a hell of a show and she had i'd say more
people at the border's stage @ nff this year than anyone else and she did
tear the place down - she did the same at boston pride.

mike reynolds
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the official honor website says previous tour audio will be up...

in 97 they had a song from almost every stop posted during the tour. all
those shows were sndbrd->dat -> realaudio.

geek note: i touched the dat that made those recordings.
(well, i had a few more memorable experiences covering the shows i went too)

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in a message dated 09/19/2000 1:43:18 pm eastern daylight time,
photomonk@earthlink.net writes:

>  > i think one of the reasons it's particularly disheartening is, according
> to
>  > > some statistic i read somewhere, lesbians have the shortest average
time
> in
>  > > committed relationships of anybody. i guess somebody has to have the
>  > > shortest average time, but still, at 2.5 years, that's pretty darn
brief.
>
>  > >
>  > > on the other hand... hasn't emily been with her partner for 5 years?
so
> a
>  > > little place for optimism and the indigo girls (not personal stuff...
uh.
> ..
>  > > just statistical stuff. like a batting average or something).

i think this just shows how fickle women really are.
trish

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>>i think this just shows how fickle women really are.<<

yikes, answering a stereotype with a sterotype... don't you think
that's just a little bit sexist?  it's like saying men can't be
monogamous.

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it's wednesday night. and it doesn't look like i will have enough money
in hand to do a run, so
please get those orders in,  the deadline is extended another two weeks
or until  we raise enough for me to do a run.

keep in mind, that once  i get up the money, it will take approx. 2-3
weeks to have themprinted-up. thank you, and now back to your ig
listening.....or whatever.

peace
barb

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hey y'all! i am going to have to go to the lawrence, ks concert by myself :(
(it figures because my friends don't like ig because my friends suck!!) so i
am going to this alone again! but i was wonderin if anybody that is going and
is coming from oklahoma or texas if i could maybe follow y'all to the kansas
show, that way i don't have to technically drive the 8 hrs alone seeing how
ive never been to kansas it's gonna kinda be scarry :) also any plans for a
list meet yet? i'd love to see some of your smiling faces again! take care
y'all! :)


mandy

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are these going to be about the girls (why do we call them girls when
it's clear that they are grown up?), or are these liner notes going to be
about the song, or are they just going to be about things in general.
did amy and emily just pick their favorite quotes from these
authors/feminists/thinkers?  if so, i'm really looking forward to seeing
who they picked out for "left me a fool."


here's to this cool ass list!!!!!!!!!

indigo heads rule!

god dawg y'all, have you seen the picture up on the hte web site of amy
and emily?  i swear they look soooooooo  haaaa-hot!
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hi folks,

couple of things...

please remember to delete all unnecessary text when posting to the list.

please take the nigc: me separates and related threads to private email.

thank you!

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in a message dated 9/20/00 12:45:13 pm eastern daylight time,
loralei.riney@bannerhealth.com writes:

<< on this note did anyone see the coke commercial which showed a line up if
you will of couples, one kissing the other, now granted most were couples of
heterosexual nature( one male one female) but there was one couple, a cute
blonde being kissed by an asian american....it was very subtle but it made me
smile to think that they did it.

granted it may not mean anything...but to me i thought vivat!  sparkie
  >>


i was actually looking at the couples closely to see if they would do a same
sex couple and cheered when the two women kissed, but it could have been
friends kissing, i waited for one of two men but there wasn't.

indi

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is anyone going to see michelle malone at the grog shop this saturday?
thinking about it...willing to join a group to allow for more enjoyable
time.

bethany

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:o)

<<is it possibler somebody with all the promos etc, decided to do a indigo
girls b-sides comp, *independent* of neil's set (and oh boy, neil does make
his stuff well... make a 3 cd set - i have seen b-side collections on ebay
and the b-sides are not hard to compile via mp3, ect.>>

good point, well made. and thank's for the compliment. it's quite possible.
but there are certain things on my disc you just can't get on the promos...

if i say so myself, i haven't seen any b-sides collection that has been put
together with as much care and attention as mine :o) (and i never made a
cent!!). there's someone out there selling a napster-derived b-sides
collections. it even has that 'indigo girls/kate bush' track on (which as
explained on the list a short while ago, actually has neither of them). i
only use mp3s as a last resort.

plus nobody. _no one_. had the indigo girls singing 'american tune' with
simon and garfunkel before me. (i know because i faked it myself.) if it's a
b-sides collection that has that, it came from me somewhere, somehow. and
there are other identifying characteristics (the non-ig sung, but ig-written
bonus tracks) so i'd like to think my discs are easily recognisable.
tracklisting is at
www.go.to/neilytones or www.andineil.com/indigogirls/bootlegs

<<does an accoustic version of any of amy and emily's work exist? if so, how
would i go about getting it? would it be bootlegged?>>

there are many acoustic shows that have been bootleged (and some released on
promos too)  - but if you're asking about regular studio recordings, five
songs from swamp ophelia were released as acoustic duo mixes. they're on
some cd singles, but they're all collected on the aforesaid attack of the
killer b-sides, which you can probably pick up for asking around...

<<(why do we call them girls when it's clear that they are grown up?)>>

i remember someone got really pissy on the ig newsgroup once - as i recall.
a - it's not right to call them the girls. they're women...
b - but they're called the indigo girls. it's a contraction. it's from their
name.
a - you don't go calling the rolling stones the 'rocks' or 'boulders' do
you?
b - no. they are, however commonly known as the stones....
q.e.d.

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so i'm checking my e-mail and i get one from the kd lang mailing list and she is offering up tickets to people on her mailing list the day before they on sale elsewhere...any ideas on why the girls don't do this????

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> they're on
> some cd singles, but they're all collected on the aforesaid attack
> of the
> killer b-sides, which you can probably pick up for asking around...

ok, i'll bite! is any kind soul out there willing to burn copies of the
4 attack of the killer b-sides volumes for me? i'd be happy to set up a
trade or do a bs&p!!!! please, please, please!!!! email me privately if
you are willing to take up my request! thanks much!
marian =)

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etheridge, cypher: custody shared

double grammy winner melissa etheridge, 39, and director julie cypher, 36,
meant what they said this week when they announced that their split after 12
years was amicable. their friend and neighbor, actress kathy najimy, tells
people magazine in its oct. 20 that the couple's two children -- bailey, 3,
and beckett, 23 months, both fathered by rocker david crosby -- "will be with
their mommies seven days a week, 24 hours a day." cypher and etheridge have
bought two homes, next door to one another and sharing a common backyard, not
far from their previous l.a. mansion, reports people. "they'll be able to
have breakfast with momo (their name for cypher), play in the mutual yard and
lunch with mama (etheridge)," says najimy, who adds, "they really do love
each other dearly. it's a separation. it's not forever."

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awwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!   :)))))))))))))))
sounds idyllic to me!!!!!

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: etheridge, cypher: custody shared
:
: double grammy winner melissa etheridge, 39, and director julie cypher, 36,
: meant what they said this week when they announced that their split after
12
: years was amicable. their friend and neighbor, actress kathy najimy, tells
: people magazine in its oct. 20 that the couple's two children -- bailey,
3,
: and beckett, 23 months, both fathered by rocker david crosby -- "will be
with
: their mommies seven days a week, 24 hours a day." cypher and etheridge
have
: bought two homes, next door to one another and sharing a common backyard,
not
: far from their previous l.a. mansion, reports people. "they'll be able to
: have breakfast with momo (their name for cypher), play in the mutual yard
and
: lunch with mama (etheridge)," says najimy, who adds, "they really do love
: each other dearly. it's a separation. it's not forever."
:
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hello! i just heard one of the 2 new songs by ig on xrt chicago radio!! i don't know the name but it's lead vocal on emily, it's a very pretty mellow song, kind of countryish. very beautifully sung w/great harmonies. yeah!! this radio station is sponsoring the hte show in chicago and has been promoting the show like crazy!!

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when do they go on sale? does anyone know?
i'd like to see if i can get a seat in the pit  (so i can get a
bumpersticker or two upto amy. ).

barb

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that is if the bumpers are ready by the 16th.
they aren't going to be orderred until i get the money up. so folks keep
up the good work and we can get this project rolling.

barb

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date:         thu, 21 sep 2000 12:26:43 -0500
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i don't know about anyone else, but i call them
the "girls" for short because it's part of their name. if they called
themselves the "indigo women." or "indigo adults" (lol) i'd call'em
that.

peace (huh, ha ha!)

barb

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date:         thu, 21 sep 2000 10:26:22 -0700
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worldclassrock.com is going to be rebroadcasting their indigo girls footage
next week--monday the 25th will be replay of the launch party soundcheck
from the july 27 los angeles hob show, and tuesday the 26th will be the
webcast of the concert itself.  this will be a 24-hour on-demand video,
according to the website.

i just got a cable modem, so i'm hoping to actually get to see the video
this time!

sharon g. s. bugante -- shaniezak@la-ex-heds.com
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knows the way from your heart to your brain: know that you're whole.
and you're shining like the brightest star, a transmission on the
midnight radio . . . " -- hedwig and the angry inch

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date:         thu, 21 sep 2000 13:16:10 -0500
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they go on sale via ticketmaster or the orpheum at 12:00 tomorrow.  prices
are $47/$37/$32.

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what are the titles of these new songs again?  can
they be found on mp3's anywhere?

thanks, have a good day :)

~di

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in a message dated 09/21/2000 3:56:16 pm eastern daylight time,
sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu writes:

<< they go on sale via ticketmaster or the orpheum at 12:00 tomorrow.  prices
are $47/$37/$32. >>

those are cheaper than the chicago tickets...
but at least the money goes for a good cause.

:-) karen (who of course, still will, go for the best seats...)

http://www.geocities.com/karen_rosenblum

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the new songs are emily's "leaving" and amy's "devotion".  i haven't seen
them as mp3s.

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would amy, if she is the one please contact me about the the t shirts, because i need to give a new address to have mine sent at
kris

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when they did the q&a at uconn last february, they joked about the fact that
when they called themselves indigo girls they got a lot of flak for the
'girls' thing -- because it wasn't pc.  now, however, it's cool to be a
grrrl!

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